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| 00:12.21 | CrazyBenny | hmm, anyone else has problems with latest release of bigwigs, that it doesnt load northrend boss module, even when the folder exists? |
| 00:12.44 | vhaarr | CrazyBenny: I did naxx25, sarth3d and malygos today, all worked fine |
| 00:13.09 | [draco] | works fine here, too |
| 00:13.14 | [draco] | just naxx today, though |
| 00:13.40 | CrazyBenny | vhaarr: weird, it just show naxx in the dropdown and doesnt enable itself in Sarth...even switched to release from alpha and still the same |
| 00:14.03 | vhaarr | and you deleted all bw folders before reinstalling? |
| 00:14.26 | CrazyBenny | yeah, I'll try it again |
| 00:14.41 | vhaarr | and you have some bug catching addon? |
| 00:14.55 | CrazyBenny | yep, no bug appears |
| 00:15.00 | vhaarr | locale? |
| 00:15.07 | CrazyBenny | en |
| 00:16.08 | CrazyBenny | oh, the toc was missing for some reason in northrend module |
| 00:16.17 | CrazyBenny | should work now I guess:S |
| 00:16.19 | vhaarr | you copied it manually? |
| 00:16.27 | CrazyBenny | with CC |
| 00:16.49 | vhaarr | I can't speak for cc |
| 00:16.59 | vhaarr | but it clearly misbehaved |
| 00:17.12 | CrazyBenny | meh, I should have noticed missing toc file before |
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| 00:40.17 | Kamisama | god it's impossible to play on this server :< |
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| 01:09.46 | Repo | 10volumizer: 03Torhal * r15 Volumizer.lua: (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 01:09.49 | Repo | Added text field to LDB object to display the current Master volume level. |
| 01:09.52 | Repo | Added current volume levels next to the slider names in the control panel - made the label font smaller to fit this in. |
| 01:09.55 | Repo | Added "/vol" slash command to bring up the control panel. |
| 01:09.58 | Repo | Fixed erroneous event name in Volumizer:P_E_W. |
| 01:10.45 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r349 IceUnitBar.lua: - properly set flash frame bar width |
| 01:11.54 | Repo | 10volumizer: 03Torhal 043.0.9-1.0.5 * r16 : Tagging as 3.0.9-1.0.5 |
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| 01:29.03 | Xinhuan | any DKs here can offhand tell me what are the 2 best rings for dps? |
| 01:32.33 | linear` | ruthlessness and surge needle ring |
| 01:34.39 | Bruners | Xinhuan: Circle of Death and Ruthlessness |
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| 01:54.18 | Xinhuan | Bruners, how good is ring of invicibility then? |
| 01:57.30 | Bruners | Xinhuan: its ok i guess, not really worth the badges unless you have one million of them |
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| 01:59.41 | Xinhuan | now if a DK applied with 16.07% hit on his gear, should i just reject him? lol |
| 02:00.33 | Bruners | melee hit? |
| 02:00.40 | Xinhuan | yes, melee hit |
| 02:00.47 | Xinhuan | 521 hit rating or something |
| 02:00.50 | Bruners | 8% to much lol |
| 02:00.57 | Bruners | or is he dual wielding? |
| 02:01.02 | Xinhuan | i'm like.. faceplam |
| 02:01.08 | Xinhuan | not dual wielding |
| 02:01.14 | Bruners | i dont recall the DW hit cap |
| 02:01.16 | Xinhuan | using KT-10 axe i think |
| 02:01.22 | NeoTron | that's pretty overkill for 2h to be sure |
| 02:01.34 | NeoTron | does he gem or enchant for hit or just perhaps bad luck on gear? |
| 02:01.39 | NeoTron | more likely lack of understanding maybe |
| 02:01.44 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blackrock&n=Crippletron |
| 02:01.49 | Xinhuan | no hit gems |
| 02:01.51 | NeoTron | like a caster that rerolled dk |
| 02:01.53 | Xinhuan | no 3rd dragon's eye too |
| 02:02.03 | Xinhuan | also a diseaseless spec |
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| 02:02.23 | robotusch | that's sick! |
| 02:02.26 | robotusch | .. oh wai- |
| 02:02.41 | Xinhuan | i somehow don't think all that hit gear is "extremely bad luck" |
| 02:03.05 | robotusch | lol XML errors on the US armory >_> |
| 02:03.21 | Xinhuan | turn off your XML checking then |
| 02:03.31 | NeoTron | he might be the kind who gets "good gear" without realizing the limits of when good stops being good |
| 02:04.22 | Xinhuan | i'm under the impression diseaseless spec is only better dps if you have very good gear, and at least 4 pc t7.25 |
| 02:04.25 | RaydenUni | woo |
| 02:04.31 | Xinhuan | am i correct or wrong? |
| 02:04.32 | RaydenUni | just bought Nobles 2,3,6,8 for under 3000 |
| 02:04.48 | NeoTron | I really don't know |
| 02:04.52 | NeoTron | no wws? |
| 02:04.56 | Xinhuan | don't think so |
| 02:05.07 | Bruners | Xinhuan: i never tried diseasless really, i wont bother either with the coming changes |
| 02:05.10 | NeoTron | I've played almost exclusively unholy 2h |
| 02:05.26 | Xinhuan | i don't normally ask people to submit wws, since most ppl don't combatlog |
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| 02:05.33 | NeoTron | most guilds do |
| 02:05.37 | Xinhuan | nor come from guilds that upload to wws |
| 02:05.45 | NeoTron | we probably get wws for 80-90% of our apps |
| 02:05.52 | Bruners | Xinhuan: as soon as he changes legs+chest he will go down by 5% hit |
| 02:06.01 | Xinhuan | on a hunch, i'll say your guild is better than mine NeoTron ;p |
| 02:06.18 | NeoTron | the chest is a typical best or almost best in slot (excluding excessive hit of course) |
| 02:07.32 | NeoTron | http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/1973766#damageout with http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Morasia that gear (yes I know I'm over on expertise, but I can't fix that w/o gear) |
| 02:07.43 | Xinhuan | also is chaotic or relentless more dps? |
| 02:07.57 | NeoTron | past two weeks we got: plate tank gear that went to alts and (almost exclusively it seems) caster gear, cloth/jewelry/misc leather/mail |
| 02:08.06 | NeoTron | I use chaotic |
| 02:08.12 | Bruners | NeoTron: why is it best in slot? t7 is better if you are hit/exp capped |
| 02:08.32 | NeoTron | because it has a lot of hit and expertise that you can free out elsewhere |
| 02:08.42 | NeoTron | t7 chest is the worst of the 5 t7 pieces |
| 02:08.46 | NeoTron | so best one to replace |
| 02:11.05 | Bruners | NeoTron: he only has 4 |
| 02:11.33 | Xinhuan | he's only wearing 2 |
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| 02:12.14 | Bruners | err 2 |
| 02:12.16 | Bruners | :P |
| 02:13.15 | Bruners | is the racial expertise you from wearing an axe hidden on the armory? |
| 02:13.25 | Bruners | +get |
| 02:13.33 | Xinhuan | racial expertise from humans only apply to maces and swords |
| 02:14.31 | Bruners | oh it was a human, question still stands :) |
| 02:16.33 | Xinhuan | hmm why does mmo-champion have multiple T8 colors of gear for some classes like Mages |
| 02:16.41 | Xinhuan | 4 different colors in fact |
| 02:17.29 | Bruners | they dont know which will count i guess |
| 02:17.44 | Bruners | more of an export of available styles? |
| 02:18.02 | robotusch | 3 colours for various specs + 1 for dunnowhatever? |
| 02:18.38 | Bruners | also im guessing some parts will be lookalikes to t8 just recolored |
| 02:18.50 | Stanzilla | for use on npcs or whatever |
| 02:19.35 | Bruners | i want my t7.5 shoulders :( |
| 02:21.00 | Bruners | the diseasless rotation is it 2x ob, 2x hs, rp, repeat? |
| 02:21.15 | Xinhuan | mages only have 1 spec for gear >.> |
| 02:21.25 | Xinhuan | 2, if you count the 10/25man variations |
| 02:21.31 | Xinhuan | yeah bruners |
| 02:21.37 | Xinhuan | they dont' use death runes too |
| 02:21.57 | Bruners | doesnt really matter if its a death rune or not |
| 02:22.29 | Xinhuan | well the spec doesn't require them to get any |
| 02:22.50 | Bruners | not using Blood Tap would be stupid, thus using death rune for one extra HS |
| 02:31.30 | pompy | what's it mean about the TLPD spawn if you see the corpse of vyragosa? |
| 02:34.34 | Xinhuan | unknown |
| 02:36.32 | RaydenUni | how very sad |
| 02:36.42 | RaydenUni | our loot master has too much lag or something |
| 02:36.49 | RaydenUni | so we can't loot stuff off anub |
| 02:40.09 | Bruners | RaydenUni: make him relog if he cant loot |
| 02:40.15 | RaydenUni | he did |
| 02:40.16 | RaydenUni | and it worked |
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| 02:43.53 | Dark_Elf | ~seen Toadkiller |
| 02:43.55 | purl | toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-99-188-166-150.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 1h 45m 19s ago, saying: 'NRT?'. |
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| 03:01.29 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 03:01.42 | RaydenUni | 34k ac, 41.6% dodge,42k hp :D |
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| 03:22.13 | Groktar | malygos was at 26% going into p3 |
| 03:22.14 | Groktar | lol |
| 03:26.30 | Grizlock | Nice |
| 03:26.33 | Grizlock | Stack ranged? |
| 03:27.45 | Groktar | nah |
| 03:28.00 | Groktar | it went into a second vortex |
| 03:28.06 | Groktar | and the next spark was perfect |
| 03:29.45 | Groktar | stil didn't get 6 minute tho |
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| 03:36.17 | Grizlock | any ace3 gurus in here? |
| 03:37.09 | Grizlock | Getting "CallbackHandler-1.0" error when trying to include AceComm-3.0 as a mixin |
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| 03:52.07 | Xinhuan | u need to load CBH first. |
| 03:52.08 | Groktar | http://www.guild-impulse.net/gallery/pic.php?mode=large&pic_id=33 |
| 03:52.10 | Groktar | wooooooot |
| 03:57.36 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r350 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 03:57.39 | Repo | - added a configurable RunicPower color to the player, target, and tot mana bars |
| 03:57.42 | Repo | - made runic power behave like energy and rage for the "low threshold" flashing behavior |
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| 04:04.23 | Groktar | neebler |
| 04:04.24 | Groktar | http://www.guild-impulse.net/gallery/pic.php?mode=large&pic_id=33 |
| 04:12.13 | RaydenUni | woot |
| 04:12.21 | RaydenUni | cloak of shadowed suns AND undeath carrier in one night |
| 04:12.23 | RaydenUni | and the night is young! |
| 04:16.03 | RaydenUni | or not |
| 04:16.09 | RaydenUni | i guess calling it after loatheb |
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| 04:54.08 | Neebler | your UI is ugly groktar. |
| 04:54.11 | Neebler | remove timestamps! |
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| 05:13.38 | Xinhuan | http://www.osnews.com/images/comics/wtfm.jpg |
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| 05:20.47 | End | lol |
| 05:21.43 | Funkeh` | Xinhuan, ... |
| 05:25.38 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 05:26.18 | Xinhuan | like it? hehe |
| 05:30.04 | Funkeh` | Xinhuan, it's just... lol |
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| 05:39.30 | nymbia | what's up in this end of the world |
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| 06:04.47 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r63 Core.lua: |
| 06:04.49 | Repo | Fixed not clearing candidates after awarding loot, and corrected recipe/quest item determination |
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| 07:06.14 | Groktar | i accidently THE WHOLE UI |
| 07:06.16 | Groktar | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1235629662046.jpg |
| 07:07.52 | Fisker- | i hate you Groktar |
| 07:08.13 | Groktar | that's not mine |
| 07:08.22 | Groktar | someone linked it to me |
| 07:09.07 | Neebler | almost as bad as some UI's I've seen |
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| 07:09.29 | Fisker- | i'm gonna fuck you up Groktar |
| 07:09.51 | Fisker- | how he managed to survive polarity shift will be a riddle Neebler :O |
| 07:11.16 | Groktar | look at the addon memory |
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| 07:14.30 | Neebler | http://picasaweb.google.com/neebler/Amusing02#5307000975491266434 |
| 07:17.42 | Civrock | Where's ckknight been? Chinchilla error on PTR. >_> |
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| 07:20.39 | Groktar | i don't think people have gotten much of a chance to update for the ptr |
| 07:20.49 | Groktar | since it was horribly unstable until about an hour ago |
| 07:20.54 | Neebler | ah found it. http://picasaweb.google.com/neebler/Amusing02#5307002625620421314 |
| 07:21.31 | winkiller | WTF |
| 07:21.34 | winkiller | that ui pic |
| 07:21.43 | winkiller | how can someone play like that o_O |
| 07:21.45 | nevcairiel | i've seen worse |
| 07:22.03 | Neebler | that asian one in sunwell is pretty horrible |
| 07:34.22 | Elkano | so there do exist UIs worse than mine? ;) |
| 07:35.51 | Groktar | is fond of his ui |
| 07:36.15 | Aeyan | I love my UI |
| 07:37.04 | Aeyan | So many square corners |
| 07:38.52 | Neebler | I'm never satisfied with mine |
| 07:41.59 | Twisted-Transist | i think a bigger screen will make my UI look better |
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| 07:54.28 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.2.6-15-g0325f96 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 07:54.31 | Repo | 0325f96: Properly unregister the vehicle events if not using the Blizzard VehicleUI |
| 07:54.34 | Repo | f055639: Properly disable our built-in VehicleBar if using the Blizzard art |
| 07:54.37 | Repo | 6adef77: Added an option to use the default blizzard vehicle frame for vehicles (the art and all the fun) |
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| 07:55.03 | Aeyan | I'm the happiest I've been with mine in a while |
| 07:55.04 | Aeyan | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Aeyan/Warcraft/02-09-clean.jpg |
| 07:55.25 | Neebler | das nise, jah! |
| 07:55.55 | Neebler | not a fan of chat tabs though, I find one works well enough |
| 07:56.26 | Neebler | why have a combat one when you have eavesdrop? :P |
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| 07:59.48 | Aeyan | Eh, sometimes you need a log file to look at instead of just my damage/MOB damage |
| 08:00.02 | Neebler | well eavesdrop has tooltips showing the full text of it |
| 08:00.07 | Neebler | with the timestamp |
| 08:00.22 | Neebler | also shift clicking an entry in eavesdrop puts it in your chatlog |
| 08:00.27 | Aeyan | I don't have eavesdrop display things like debuff application, auras, etc etc |
| 08:00.35 | Neebler | oh right |
| 08:00.36 | Twisted-Transist | Aeyan how much system resources does that UI take up, it looks really slick |
| 08:01.08 | Aeyan | Haven't checked in a while, sec. |
| 08:03.13 | Neebler | aeyan post unitframes! |
| 08:03.49 | Aeyan | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Aeyan/Warcraft/02-09-combat.jpg |
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| 08:04.24 | Neebler | deathknight cooldowns are that short? |
| 08:04.29 | Aeyan | Twisted-Transist: ~9mb |
| 08:04.36 | Neebler | I'm disgusted with that class |
| 08:04.49 | Twisted-Transist | wow 9mb |
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| 08:07.09 | Repo | 10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm * r43 / (2 files in 1 directory): MorgBid2 |
| 08:07.12 | Repo | -fixed frame parenting - seems to have fixed the result window issues |
| 08:07.15 | Repo | -fixed scale of results frame and font |
| 08:07.54 | Repo | 10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm 04v3.6 * r44 : Tagging as v3.6 |
| 08:08.13 | Twisted-Transist | i wish to redo my ui but i dont know what i want it to look like to do differntly that my current one doesnt |
| 08:08.26 | Twisted-Transist | more performance would probably be my main goal |
| 08:10.12 | Aeyan | I care more about memory than I honestly should |
| 08:10.29 | nevcairiel | at least you're aware of that =P |
| 08:10.39 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 08:10.44 | Neebler | who cares about memory when you have 4 gigs of ram |
| 08:10.53 | Aeyan | See, that's it |
| 08:10.55 | Neebler | CPU usage is imporant, or so I've been told |
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| 08:11.02 | Twisted-Transist | suggestions for replacing xperl with something? |
| 08:11.10 | Aeyan | I have 4gb but I get a nervous itch if I have to add a new library dependency |
| 08:11.26 | Arrowmaster | fuck you guys, i only have 1gb |
| 08:11.40 | Aeyan | That was me a month ago |
| 08:11.54 | nevcairiel | 1gb? thats been a long time |
| 08:12.04 | nevcairiel | i was at 2gb for a while, but for about half a year at 4gb now |
| 08:12.07 | Aeyan | I tend to ride systems into the ground |
| 08:12.24 | nevcairiel | RAM is so cheap, i just upgraded it without upgrading the whole system |
| 08:12.44 | Arrowmaster | ive been looking, 6gb of ram for a new system is cheaper than my 1gb was when i build this one |
| 08:12.56 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 08:12.58 | Aeyan | My board was old enough to not really make it worth it to get a pair of 1gb chips |
| 08:13.04 | Aeyan | If I could even find that speed anymore |
| 08:13.08 | nevcairiel | SDRAM? :P |
| 08:13.19 | Arrowmaster | my board only supports 1.5gb in dual channel i think |
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| 08:15.37 | Aeyan | Don't recall how much it could support, but I think the speed limit was pc133 |
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| 08:15.43 | nevcairiel | ouch |
| 08:16.15 | nevcairiel | you really ran that thing in the ground |
| 08:16.21 | Aeyan | Yeah... |
| 08:16.25 | Aeyan | That's all in the past though |
| 08:16.31 | Aeyan | Good times, good times |
| 08:19.16 | Twisted-Transist | i guess if im going 2 redo my ui i should find out what is taking up most resources and trying to fine tune/replace them |
| 08:19.37 | Neebler | delete your interface and wtf directorys. start from scratch |
| 08:19.37 | Twisted-Transist | i have heard of performance_fu is there a broker or none fubar =? |
| 08:20.13 | Aeyan | Oh, there's plenty of performance reporter broker plugins |
| 08:20.14 | Aeyan | and others |
| 08:20.37 | Aeyan | I use OptionlessHouse myself |
| 08:20.42 | Aeyan | If I need to know for some reason |
| 08:21.39 | vhaarr | Broker_SysMon |
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| 08:22.02 | vhaarr | and Broker_CMA, if you want some fun stats :p |
| 08:22.04 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.2.6-16-g91413bc Bartender4.lua: [+1 commit] Small improvements to the vehicle stuff |
| 08:23.47 | Twisted-Transist | @project Broker_CMA |
| 08:23.49 | Repo | Twisted-Transist: No project found that matches 'broker_cma' |
| 08:23.57 | vhaarr | @project broker-cma |
| 08:23.59 | Repo | vhaarr: http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker-cma/. Broker_CMA. Game: WoW. Rabbit (Manager/Author). Updated: 15 days ago |
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| 08:25.11 | Aeyan | I wouldn't worry too much about finding alternatives to all your addons |
| 08:25.48 | Aeyan | Just my opinion, but if you wanted to slim things down I just start with one addon and think about the stuff in it that you might not care about |
| 08:26.05 | Aeyan | If there's features you don't use or don't need, browse around for other options |
| 08:27.03 | Twisted-Transist | good point |
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| 08:27.24 | Neebler | modular! |
| 08:27.28 | Twisted-Transist | i know what blizzard tells me is my heaviest mods which is ark inventory and armoury |
| 08:27.45 | vhaarr | arki was always a pos :p |
| 08:27.49 | vhaarr | bagnon ftw |
| 08:27.53 | Neebler | combuctor! > all bag addons |
| 08:28.17 | [Ammo] | I love combuctor too |
| 08:28.27 | Aeyan | I use combuctor as well |
| 08:28.33 | Aeyan | Bagnon is even simpler |
| 08:28.34 | Twisted-Transist | @describe combuctor |
| 08:28.36 | Repo | Twisted-Transist: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/combuctor/. Combuctor. Combuctor is a bag replacement addon designed to help the player find things in his or her's inventory as quickly and as easily as possible. Included Addons Combuctor - The main addon. Provides a... |
| 08:28.47 | Neebler | it's an "all-in-one" bag, but has a search feature |
| 08:28.57 | Neebler | and you can use tabs that categorizes items |
| 08:29.14 | Twisted-Transist | i can do that in ai |
| 08:29.21 | Neebler | its very simple |
| 08:29.33 | vhaarr | yes but you see, the difference is that combuctor doesn't suck ass, while AI does |
| 08:29.34 | Twisted-Transist | also shows me item counts |
| 08:29.39 | Twisted-Transist | lol |
| 08:29.40 | vhaarr | even if they have all the same features |
| 08:29.42 | Twisted-Transist | ill take a look |
| 08:29.54 | Neebler | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw11156.jpg |
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| 08:31.28 | Aeyan | Baggins works sort of like AI, doesn't it? |
| 08:31.34 | Aeyan | Never used AI, so I dunno |
| 08:32.52 | sb|work | morning |
| 08:33.06 | Aeyan | Mornin' |
| 08:33.11 | Aeyan | Twisted-Transist: What's armoury? |
| 08:33.35 | Twisted-Transist | @project armory |
| 08:33.36 | Repo | Twisted-Transist: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/armory/. Armory. Game: WoW. Warmexx (Manager/Author). Updated: 18 hours ago. Tickets: 2/10 |
| 08:33.49 | Twisted-Transist | @describe armory |
| 08:33.51 | Repo | Twisted-Transist: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/armory/. Armory. In short All armory information as seen on the offical site from Blizzard Entertainment, in game, for all your characters, on all realms Information about all skills of your characters, including... |
| 08:34.27 | Twisted-Transist | more or less shows what my other toons are wearing, their professions and quests |
| 08:34.32 | Aeyan | Oh, damn |
| 08:34.44 | Aeyan | Yeah, I can see how that could be a big memory user |
| 08:34.49 | Aeyan | Hopefully just static memory |
| 08:35.01 | Aeyan | Which doesn't matter for performance except load times |
| 08:35.42 | Twisted-Transist | iv disabled a few of the modules i dont need |
| 08:35.46 | Twisted-Transist | but still its heavy |
| 08:35.54 | Twisted-Transist | ~10mb |
| 08:39.10 | Twisted-Transist | so choices for AI replacement, combuctor, baggins and bagons |
| 08:39.42 | Groktar | devours Twisted-Transist's soul |
| 08:40.44 | Aeyan | I don't have any suggestions for Armory |
| 08:41.06 | Aeyan | Either live without being able to look at your alts' character panels or just deal with the memory usage =P |
| 08:41.11 | winkiller | <3 bagnon |
| 08:41.32 | winkiller | altoholic + possessions is awesome for alts, btw |
| 08:41.55 | Twisted-Transist | @link altoholic |
| 08:42.05 | Twisted-Transist | @project altoholic |
| 08:42.06 | Repo | Twisted-Transist: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/altoholic/. Altoholic. Game: WoW. Thaoky (Manager/Author). Updated: 5 days ago. Tickets: 7/20 |
| 08:42.18 | Twisted-Transist | @project possessions |
| 08:42.20 | Repo | Twisted-Transist: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/possessions/. Possessions. Game: WoW. Lauchsuppe (Manager/Author). Updated: 401 days ago. Tickets: 2/2 |
| 08:42.20 | Aeyan | Ah, neat. |
| 08:42.30 | winkiller | it's still working :P |
| 08:42.30 | Twisted-Transist | i think ill live with armoury |
| 08:42.38 | Twisted-Transist | its so handy |
| 08:44.16 | sb|work | ohh |
| 08:44.18 | sb|work | finally |
| 08:44.19 | sb|work | +INSTANCE_LOCK_TIMER = "You have entered an instance that you will be locked to in %d %s."; |
| 08:44.22 | sb|work | <3 |
| 08:44.25 | sb|work | no more " |
| 08:44.38 | sb|work | "oops i forgot to switch to heroic, sorry" :p |
| 08:44.45 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 08:44.46 | Groktar | that's nice |
| 08:44.50 | Aeyan | Very |
| 08:45.38 | Groktar | i'm lucky i haven't had that problem yet |
| 08:45.43 | Groktar | but i've been afraid of it |
| 08:46.00 | nevcairiel | i usually only run raid runs |
| 08:46.02 | nevcairiel | er |
| 08:46.03 | nevcairiel | guild runs |
| 08:46.07 | sb|work | hm no problem for me, but we clered naxx on wed. and friday was regular 25s raid |
| 08:46.11 | nevcairiel | that limits the issue |
| 08:46.25 | sb|work | so if i didnt switch to heroic before inviting, ~5+ people got my cleared 10s id *shrug* ;p |
| 08:46.30 | sb|work | because they cannot read |
| 08:46.50 | Zarnivoop | I had to write a little addon for our raid leader that asks "Do you want to switch to Heroic/normal?" when raid size changes to 10 or more, or less |
| 08:47.24 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 08:48.00 | winkiller | Zarnivoop: gief! |
| 08:48.08 | nevcairiel | people might still fall into the 10man trab sb|work, but its their own damn fault for clicking the button then! |
| 08:48.14 | nevcairiel | trap* |
| 08:48.18 | winkiller | it's a trap! |
| 08:48.20 | Zarnivoop | winkiller: I'll upload it when I get home |
| 08:48.22 | Aeyan | Zarnivoop: Skada's been working very well for me this past week. Appreciate it. =P |
| 08:48.37 | Zarnivoop | Aeyan: glad to hear it :) |
| 08:48.42 | sb|work | nevcairiel: its a button? sounds more like some timeout for not getting saved |
| 08:48.50 | nevcairiel | It has a button |
| 08:48.50 | sb|work | like "you will be ported in x seconds..." |
| 08:48.51 | nevcairiel | or two |
| 08:48.52 | sb|work | oh ok |
| 08:48.58 | nevcairiel | "Yes" and "No" |
| 08:49.02 | nevcairiel | not sure what happens on no |
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| 08:49.06 | sb|work | and timeout defaults to yes? :P |
| 08:49.08 | nevcairiel | probably GY port |
| 08:49.16 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 08:49.19 | nevcairiel | checks code |
| 08:49.46 | Twisted-Transist | anyone got a screen shot of what baggins looks like? |
| 08:50.05 | sb|work | nevcairiel: |
| 08:50.06 | sb|work | +button1 = ACCEPT, |
| 08:50.07 | sb|work | +button2 = INSTANCE_LEAVE, |
| 08:50.09 | nevcairiel | timeout just hides the frame |
| 08:50.20 | nevcairiel | not sure what happens on timeout |
| 08:50.55 | sb|work | should default to "accept id" |
| 08:51.22 | nevcairiel | there is a API RespondInstanceLock, but on timeout its not called |
| 08:51.28 | sb|work | else we would have a lot of "i entered the instance but got ported back after being afk, fix it!! its broken!!" |
| 08:51.34 | sb|work | :/ |
| 08:53.15 | Aeyan | Twisted-Transist: http://old.wowace.com/mediawiki/images/a/ab/Baggins.jpg |
| 08:53.28 | Aeyan | Something like that. I think you can set it up in a few ways. |
| 08:53.56 | sb|work | meh yesterday was nice, i need more free days :o |
| 08:54.45 | sb|work | anyone tried that "joystick" thingie? |
| 08:55.18 | sb|work | (does the game recognize your gamepads?) |
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| 08:57.17 | Hjalte | sb|work: Where's that? |
| 08:59.24 | Twisted-Transist | i think ill give bagon a try |
| 09:00.00 | Twisted-Transist | combuctor seems to use some bagon modules |
| 09:00.35 | Hjalte | Twisted-Transist: BankItems is nice if you want to see what items your alts have. Does mail as well, haven't seen that elsewhere. |
| 09:01.09 | Twisted-Transist | AI's tooltip info does which is what I reall really like from AI |
| 09:01.30 | Twisted-Transist | I used whohas for a bit but i cant remember why i stopped using it |
| 09:01.31 | sb|work | Hjalte: no idea, but there is interface code for gamepad (joystick) control |
| 09:02.09 | Hjalte | sb|work: It doesn't register my Logitech Dual Action at least. |
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| 09:12.58 | Fisker- | i lol'd |
| 09:13.05 | Fisker- | Arms warriors and rogues are the closest to being sidelined, but we think that is largely a function of their damage being too low in PvE |
| 09:13.07 | Fisker- | lololol |
| 09:14.01 | Fisker- | so that's it |
| 09:14.18 | Fisker- | Game is balanced around being terribad |
| 09:14.24 | Groktar | http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8992/wowscrnshot022409161144.jpg |
| 09:14.26 | Groktar | :( |
| 09:14.42 | Fisker- | "OH well most rogues suck, so their damage sucks as well, so we need to buff it" |
| 09:15.11 | Fisker- | who gives a shit if rogues infact are within a fraction of the best dps classes when people know how to play? |
| 09:15.28 | Fisker- | Especially when ret are like 2000-3000 dps under that |
| 09:15.29 | Groktar | i haven't really seen anything exciting out of non-hat rogues |
| 09:15.52 | Fisker- | They can fix other specs in their sparetime |
| 09:15.55 | Fisker- | Go fix ret |
| 09:16.52 | [Ammo] | ret is fine, if you know how to play |
| 09:17.14 | Groktar | nah, ret is pretty brutal |
| 09:17.32 | Fisker- | naww [Ammo] |
| 09:17.38 | Fisker- | Ret is fine if others don't know how to play |
| 09:17.38 | Groktar | i would say they're about the worst dps in the game |
| 09:17.43 | Groktar | ^ |
| 09:18.01 | Groktar | if everyone knows their stuff and is geared |
| 09:18.04 | Groktar | ret is at the bottom |
| 09:18.09 | Fisker- | And you can add an extra ~9-12% dps loss when ulduar is out |
| 09:18.14 | Fisker- | atleast as it is sofar |
| 09:18.28 | Groktar | shouldn't it be about the same? |
| 09:18.38 | Groktar | since they're letting you exorcism everything? |
| 09:19.03 | Fisker- | Most raid bosses in ulduar are probably giants |
| 09:19.08 | Fisker- | = no 3% extra damage |
| 09:19.13 | Groktar | ic |
| 09:19.28 | Fisker- | And they also nerfed some talents |
| 09:19.37 | Fisker- | and then we won't have sense undead or holy wrath |
| 09:20.20 | Fisker- | But atleast the PTR's still young |
| 09:20.43 | Fisker- | But already 1 patch and they haven't even given us divinity yet :P |
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| 09:21.35 | winkiller | shush Fisker- |
| 09:21.47 | Fisker- | why so shush winkiller? |
| 09:21.54 | Fisker- | Can't handle the truth? |
| 09:21.54 | winkiller | why so failadin? |
| 09:22.08 | winkiller | the truth is out there |
| 09:22.13 | Fisker- | Successful paladin is unsuccessful due to class balance |
| 09:22.51 | winkiller | see.. retardins bring raid buffs |
| 09:22.59 | winkiller | so I demand their damage to be lower than rogues |
| 09:23.01 | winkiller | ' |
| 09:23.06 | winkiller | plus able to respec :P |
| 09:23.26 | Fisker- | I doubt retardins bring sufficient raid buffs to outweigh a 2000-3000 dps loss |
| 09:23.26 | winkiller | why does no one love rogues? we can.. do damage and stand in the fire |
| 09:23.29 | Fisker- | also |
| 09:23.41 | Fisker- | We already established that Blizzard wants DPS to do the same DPS |
| 09:23.45 | [Ammo] | Fisker-: they don't bring a 2000-3000 dps loss... |
| 09:23.46 | Fisker- | regardless of their class |
| 09:23.53 | [Ammo] | you just FAIL at being ret |
| 09:23.53 | Fisker- | gain then [Ammo] |
| 09:23.59 | Fisker- | naw |
| 09:24.13 | Fisker- | I'm the best DPS in my guild |
| 09:24.21 | Fisker- | unfortunately that tells you more about my guild than my DPS |
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| 09:24.46 | Fisker- | so winkiller rogues should bring buffs if it's that important to them |
| 09:24.57 | Fisker- | Infact i've supported that since WoW Classic |
| 09:25.05 | Fisker- | Which is why i'm now a pala :3 |
| 09:25.25 | winkiller | yeah, also fine |
| 09:25.27 | [Ammo] | I'm just browsing the WWS stats for Nax25 bosses only and Retri are fine |
| 09:25.37 | winkiller | but as long as NOT. rogues should be better dps |
| 09:25.43 | Fisker- | Not browsing well enough then [Ammo] |
| 09:25.52 | winkiller | I don't want to be forced rerolling because blizzard fails |
| 09:25.56 | [Ammo] | I am browsing the speed runs |
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| 09:26.07 | Fisker- | winkiller no point in having 2 problems and refusing to fix them both |
| 09:26.11 | [Ammo] | which is clearly everyone pushing the limit, and retri are fine |
| 09:26.13 | Kalroth | Fisker is a dumbass, the retribution spec is fine in PvE |
| 09:26.26 | Fisker- | Naw |
| 09:26.28 | Groktar | i haven't seen a ret pally over 5k on patch |
| 09:26.33 | Kalroth | wat |
| 09:26.35 | Fisker- | It's possible Groktar |
| 09:26.35 | Groktar | well, right around 5k |
| 09:26.43 | Fisker- | Also depends on RNG |
| 09:26.56 | Fisker- | BiS and good RNG i've seen hit around 6k |
| 09:27.00 | winkiller | then roill better numbers |
| 09:27.15 | [Ammo] | http://wowwebstats.com/xi35ngpfo25rk?s=426833-450540 there's one groktar |
| 09:27.17 | nevcairiel | our ret on patchwerk is at 5697 |
| 09:27.21 | nevcairiel | http://wowwebstats.com/yfv6loktodmlq?s=161559-193115 |
| 09:27.23 | nevcairiel | see there |
| 09:27.32 | [Ammo] | ret really is fine, fisker and grok just fail at it |
| 09:27.40 | Groktar | i never said i was ret |
| 09:27.55 | Kalroth | rogues only break 5k on patchwerk if they're in the pet groups :p |
| 09:28.02 | Groktar | and a well played, well geared ret pally will get blown out by well played well geared X |
| 09:28.11 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: your log is just cheating, on a very low fights numbers get really inflated by heroism :p |
| 09:28.11 | Fisker- | Why the fuck do you link us a page that only confirms it? |
| 09:28.19 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: not my log |
| 09:28.21 | Kalroth | confirms what? |
| 09:28.22 | Fisker- | 21Trajer100 % 473 0064 % |
| 09:28.22 | Fisker- | 5 14195 %4 %1 % |
| 09:28.24 | [Ammo] | I just clicked a random one |
| 09:28.28 | Fisker- | HES THE LOWEST DPS OF ALL THE DPS |
| 09:28.34 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: look at my log |
| 09:28.40 | nevcairiel | thats my guild |
| 09:28.43 | [Ammo] | check out nevc's log |
| 09:28.44 | Fisker- | nevcairiel i can give you similar logs |
| 09:28.56 | Fisker- | as i said, that only says more about your guild than it does your dps |
| 09:29.13 | nevcairiel | also, WWS fails with pets |
| 09:29.18 | Kalroth | Fisker-: Retributions aren't supposed to be in top 5, we got pure dps classes for that. |
| 09:29.20 | nevcairiel | the locks are usually way higher in recount |
| 09:29.26 | Fisker- | Kalroth actually they are |
| 09:29.30 | Kalroth | No |
| 09:29.32 | Fisker- | Yes. |
| 09:29.47 | Codayus | http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/1939000#damageout |
| 09:29.51 | Kalroth | So enlighten me, why should you be in top 5? |
| 09:29.52 | Fisker- | They've already said a long time ago that hybrids or not, DPS should deal similar amounts of DPS |
| 09:29.56 | Kalroth | Link please. |
| 09:30.06 | Fisker- | And even so, i do not bring buffs that make up for a 2-3k DPS loss |
| 09:30.07 | Kalroth | "They said" is a pretty shitty argument |
| 09:30.08 | Fisker- | END. |
| 09:30.11 | Codayus | Ret doing 6k dps, top DPS in the raid. :-p |
| 09:30.23 | nevcairiel | Kalroth: its been in like every other blue post by GC for month, stop being ignorant :P |
| 09:30.32 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: Then link one? :) |
| 09:30.34 | Hjalte | They said that if equally geared and skilled, pure dps should do a bit more dps then hybrids. |
| 09:30.42 | Fisker- | "A bit more" is fine |
| 09:30.48 | nevcairiel | a tiny bit, but not like 800 dps |
| 09:30.53 | Fisker- | I also consider that within the realm of "Similar amounts" |
| 09:30.57 | End | Fisker-: STOP PINGING ME |
| 09:31.03 | Fisker- | anyways |
| 09:31.09 | Fisker- | Elitist Jerks agree with me |
| 09:31.11 | Fisker- | You all lose |
| 09:31.12 | Fisker- | I win. |
| 09:31.18 | Kalroth | They do? |
| 09:31.31 | Kalroth | Are you sure it's not just other retardins whining? |
| 09:31.33 | winkiller | it's the end of the world as we know it |
| 09:31.38 | winkiller | and I feeel fine |
| 09:31.44 | Fisker- | haha nice Codayus |
| 09:31.48 | Fisker- | he's using hand of reckoning :D |
| 09:32.41 | Kalroth | No more of those logs that contradicts what Fisker says please! |
| 09:32.54 | Fisker- | None of them have contradicted me sofar |
| 09:33.07 | Kalroth | <Fisker-> And even so, i do not bring buffs that make up for a 2-3k DPS loss |
| 09:33.10 | Codayus | Nothing wrong with Hand of Reckoning. |
| 09:33.32 | Fisker- | Codayus thought it was pretty awesome actually :D |
| 09:33.34 | Hjalte | Could be that ret paladins, like moonkins, are just not that great with heroism and thus doesn't deliver 7k+ dps when doing 1m30s Patchwerks. |
| 09:33.38 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 09:33.39 | Fisker- | Pretty neglible dps boost, but still a boost |
| 09:34.01 | Kalroth | Hjalte: YOUR INTELLIGENCE AND LOGIC IS NOT WANTED IN A RETARDIN DISCUSSION! |
| 09:34.16 | Hjalte | Kalroth: <3 |
| 09:34.17 | Kalroth | is so angry. |
| 09:34.21 | [Ammo] | rofl |
| 09:34.21 | Fisker- | So Kalroth |
| 09:34.33 | krka | so dkangrydk! |
| 09:34.35 | Codayus | I'm getting a strong feeling that Ulduar fights will be a lot longer... |
| 09:34.39 | winkiller | lol krka |
| 09:34.39 | Fisker- | Noone were discussing the problem |
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| 09:34.46 | Fisker- | We were discussing whether or not there were one |
| 09:34.52 | [Ammo] | that's because there is no problem :) |
| 09:35.01 | Fisker- | But since you seem to acknowledge a specific problem, then you must also acknowledge the problem exists |
| 09:35.13 | Fisker- | Unsuccessful troll is unsuccessful |
| 09:35.16 | Kalroth | Yes, the problem is retardins |
| 09:35.42 | Kalroth | 99% of them are players rerolls because they were too dumb to play a warlock |
| 09:35.50 | Kalroth | players that rerolled* |
| 09:36.02 | Fisker- | Well sofar it seems to be the other way around |
| 09:36.08 | Fisker- | Since we're the only ones who can do damage here |
| 09:36.18 | Hjalte | Kalroth: I rerolled from warlock to moonkin. And you've just seen how intelligent I am! |
| 09:36.33 | Kalroth | Hjalte: Weeeeell, I wouldn't go that far. Sorry. |
| 09:37.04 | Codayus | I thought all the warlocks rerolled DKs. |
| 09:37.13 | [Ammo] | I rerolled from warlock to holy pala |
| 09:37.22 | Kalroth | Fisker-: In order to get a proper idea of how Paladins are in raids, you need statics, not anecdotes |
| 09:37.33 | Codayus | ...although actually, I was in a pug nax 25 raid the other day with 4 warlocks in it, which is um...exactly 4 more warlocks than every other raid I've been in in Wrath... |
| 09:37.35 | Fisker- | I got statistics |
| 09:37.37 | Codayus | It was WEIRD. |
| 09:37.42 | Fisker- | [Ammo] linked it for me actually |
| 09:37.43 | Kalroth | No, you got ass berries |
| 09:37.44 | krka | static isn't the same as statistics! |
| 09:37.56 | krka | static is like the bzzzzzzz sound when you get bad reception |
| 09:37.57 | Kalroth | slaps krka |
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| 09:38.03 | Codayus | Warlocks! I actually got soul stoned. It was like a time warp. |
| 09:38.07 | Kalroth | krka: I'll give you a bad reception. |
| 09:38.07 | Fisker- | http://wowwebstats.com/ook4hw3ghro2o?s=426833-450540 |
| 09:38.14 | krka | i usually consider Kalroths input here to be static |
| 09:38.16 | [Ammo] | you'd need to go over every single wowwebstat log and then make the decision |
| 09:38.18 | Kalroth | Fisker-: Statistics is 100+ logs |
| 09:38.18 | [Ammo] | even then... |
| 09:38.21 | krka | <kalroth> bzzzzzzzzz |
| 09:38.25 | Fisker- | Not really [Ammo] |
| 09:38.38 | Fisker- | If there's a paladin out there doing 7k DPS |
| 09:38.47 | Kalroth | Just pasting one log is dumb |
| 09:38.49 | Fisker- | Otherwise not |
| 09:38.59 | Fisker- | Just take the NPC instead |
| 09:39.23 | Fisker- | There is no Retribution paladins that can deliver more than ~6000 DPS on patch |
| 09:39.27 | Fisker- | I'll go ahead and call that fact |
| 09:39.31 | Codayus | Well, imagine most ret pallies do 5k, and a hanful do 6k, and none can do 7k. Imagine warlocks mostly do 4k, and 1 in a thousand do 7k. Browsing WWS, you see warlocks beat ret pallies. |
| 09:39.54 | Fisker- | Codayus is it our problem that warlocks are terribad? |
| 09:39.56 | Codayus | But in reality, the ret class is stronger. WWS and similar sites can't give you the stats you need. |
| 09:40.05 | [draco] | locks can actually do a lot of damage. most locks are just to stupid. |
| 09:40.21 | Fisker- | If our class fine, but for example lacks scaling with heroism |
| 09:40.21 | krka | most players in general are too stupid |
| 09:40.24 | Codayus | (Classes and DPS numbers strictly for example purposes. I don't know what warlocks even DO any more.) |
| 09:40.27 | Fisker- | Then our DPS is still bad |
| 09:40.37 | Fisker- | the source of the problem doesn't concern me |
| 09:40.43 | Fisker- | The fact it exists, concerns me |
| 09:40.45 | Codayus | The point is, we want to know what MEDIAN ret pally DPS is, and probably each quintile too, compared to others. |
| 09:40.53 | Fisker- | Though of course i'd rather have that it's properly fixed |
| 09:40.55 | Codayus | WWS can't do that. Full stop. Bliz knows, we don't. |
| 09:41.07 | Megalon | ret lacks scaling with bloodlust? lol |
| 09:41.16 | Fisker- | It's not a relevant statistic to balance for |
| 09:41.18 | Megalon | l2burncooldowns |
| 09:41.23 | Megalon | at least you have some |
| 09:41.36 | Megalon | boomkin does not scale at all with bloodlust like other classes do :c |
| 09:41.53 | Fisker- | Haste is terribad for palas as well |
| 09:42.01 | Fisker- | But i didn't say that bloodlust was the problem |
| 09:42.09 | Fisker- | Just using it as an example since someone further up mentioned it |
| 09:46.31 | Fisker- | http://www.wowmeteronline.com/rank/classrank/6 |
| 09:46.32 | Fisker- | That's pretty good actually |
| 09:47.07 | nuoHep | on your 1.37m premonition parse that you like to link here bloodlust is the problem. as it basically have 50% uptime. that's why you are seeing mages (both of them were also tricksed twice), warlocks (affliction doomguards drainsouling under heroism), warriors and even shamans up there |
| 09:47.23 | Fisker- | http://www.wowmeteronline.com/rank/clazz/dps/all/6/0/3 |
| 09:47.27 | Fisker- | lol patchwerk |
| 09:47.33 | nuoHep | if you really want to compare a ret in this parse to someone compare him to a sole combat rogue |
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| 09:49.35 | Hjalte | Druids are disturbingly low. I'd like to filter out ferals in those statistics :\ |
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| 09:51.50 | nevcairiel | ferals will get buffed in 3.1, hopefully it plays out properly |
| 09:52.48 | Elkano | nevcairiel, did you change sth wrt bt4's bar placement? |
| 09:53.08 | nevcairiel | sure, why not |
| 09:53.28 | Elkano | mine moved about a half bar height higher |
| 09:53.33 | Fisker- | gievs nevcairiel some stds |
| 09:53.37 | Twisted-Transist | if an addon has a what i would guess to be a large static memory useage should it not have a small cpu useage? |
| 09:53.55 | Fisker- | also : |
| 09:53.55 | Fisker- | :( |
| 09:54.05 | Fisker- | They nerfed the second best dps libram |
| 09:54.16 | nevcairiel | Twisted-Transist: that totally depends on the addon |
| 09:54.50 | nevcairiel | Elkano: yeah i changed the positioning system, although i hoped it adapted the positions properly by itself |
| 09:55.52 | nevcairiel | in most cases it did too, but some bars closer to the center of the screen are weird or something |
| 09:57.02 | nevcairiel | must be something with anchoring |
| 10:12.44 | Elkano | well, I used to have the bars with a margin of 0px, now it seems to force 1px |
| 10:13.33 | nevcairiel | snapping uses the bars padding as a snap distance |
| 10:21.47 | Elkano | btw: the size of the bag bar, if vertically aligned, is wrong |
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| 10:58.36 | profalbert1 | ~seen ag` |
| 10:58.39 | purl | ag` <n=ag`@90.185.136.227> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 15h 30m 36s ago, saying: 'but that could also be an issue with the OS X vid drivers'. |
| 11:18.18 | Pneumatus | are my eyes decieving me, or does CC 2.1.2.2 no longer ask for admin elevation! |
| 11:18.36 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
| 11:18.50 | nevcairiel | it still has the "Set release type for all" bug though |
| 11:19.21 | profalbert1 | Ctrl+A -> releasetype -> Select whatever you want, worked for me |
| 11:19.32 | nevcairiel | indeed, but thats not the bug |
| 11:19.42 | nevcairiel | when you switch the global release type there is a checkbox that should do that |
| 11:19.44 | profalbert | the option doesn't work, inknow |
| 11:19.45 | nevcairiel | and it doesnt |
| 11:20.01 | profalbert | mine would be the workaround |
| 11:20.05 | Pneumatus | "set all addons to this release preference" doesnt make sense as a checkbox, anyway |
| 11:20.08 | nevcairiel | its not game breaking, but still a bug |
| 11:20.16 | Pneumatus | it should be a button |
| 11:20.44 | profalbert | agree |
| 11:21.00 | Stanzilla | 12:18:18 â Pneumatus: are my eyes decieving me, or does CC 2.1.2.2 no longer ask for admin elevation! < same eyes here :p |
| 11:21.13 | Pneumatus | seeing as its a one-time action, not a permanent option |
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| 11:22.45 | Pneumatus | oh great, grace is basically useless now |
| 11:22.50 | Pneumatus | way to break disc priests. |
| 11:23.13 | nevcairiel | disc priests got completly revamped, give them time to work out the kinks :P |
| 11:23.45 | Pneumatus | they need to start over again, as they STILL wont scale as well as holy does |
| 11:23.51 | Stanzilla | power word barrier is still missing |
| 11:24.05 | Pneumatus | until they put some conversion from stat -> spell power in to disc, disc will remain terrible |
| 11:24.54 | Pneumatus | they just need to put it deep enough that you cant get double bonuses from holy+disc |
| 11:25.07 | Repo | 10tinykos: 03profalbert 07master * v0.3-beta-3-gcce81c1 broker.lua: [+1 commit] change text to label in broker |
| 11:28.15 | Pneumatus | Renewed Hope now also give you a 100% chance to reduce all damage taken by 3% for 20 sec to all friendly party and raid targets when you Power Word: Sheild a friendly target. |
| 11:28.27 | Pneumatus | that sounds like its gonna be some horrific combat log spamming :o |
| 11:29.17 | sb|work | uhm Pneumatus - why useless? |
| 11:29.57 | Pneumatus | sb|work: half the skill in disc at the moment is rotating heals through several tanks to keep 3 stacks of grace up on them for damage mitigation |
| 11:31.17 | sb|work | hm but thats done by renewed hope + pws now!? |
| 11:37.05 | Pneumatus | im still really concerned about mana regen as well, seeing as rapture now only says it returns mana from pw:s, not aegis/heals |
| 11:37.30 | sb|work | thats why i will switch back to holy again :p |
| 11:38.06 | sb|work | disc was only temporary for me because it makes sarth3d (esp. 10m) much easier :p |
| 11:38.19 | Pneumatus | thats the only reason why i went disc as well |
| 11:38.35 | Pneumatus | so unless it gets fixed to scale as well as other healing specs, i'll be going holy again |
| 11:39.30 | Pneumatus | as it stands i need to replace like half my gear now to switch back to spirit from mp5 |
| 11:40.06 | sb|work | i didnt change any of those |
| 11:40.32 | sb|work | disc is ~unlimited mana, no need for mp5 there :) spirit works fine |
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| 11:41.10 | Pneumatus | its only unlimited when you're not casting renews etc |
| 11:41.24 | Pneumatus | which helps on malygos etc |
| 11:41.31 | sb|work | holy will be 20-25% crit, then _lots of_ haste followed by other stuff ;) (spi, sp, int) |
| 11:41.56 | Pneumatus | im up to like 40% crit raid buffed as disc :> |
| 11:41.58 | sb|work | hm, dont use renew much |
| 11:42.16 | sb|work | because scaling sucks |
| 11:42.30 | sb|work | i dont want to stack SP just to buff my renew |
| 11:42.36 | sb|work | using FH only as disc |
| 11:42.46 | Pneumatus | yeh, but at malygos vortex your only choice is PoM+renew+shield |
| 11:43.05 | sb|work | (as filler for penance, pom, pw:s cooldowns ofc) |
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| 12:02.03 | sb|work | Pneumatus: 40% is too much :p |
| 12:02.26 | Pneumatus | it wont be when aegis stacks on itself in 3.1 |
| 12:04.56 | sb|work | need new TFT |
| 12:05.01 | sb|work | any suggestions? |
| 12:05.18 | sb|work | Samsung 2433BW looks good, but dont know :) |
| 12:07.18 | [draco] | samsung used to have problems with one of their panel suppliers |
| 12:07.31 | [draco] | their own panels rock, though |
| 12:07.54 | [draco] | so if there's a samsung panel in that thingy, go for it |
| 12:08.05 | [draco] | otherwise, LG has some nice TFTs, too |
| 12:10.09 | [draco] | away to get some food. |
| 12:11.52 | Neebler | I had image burnin problems with my last samsung lcd monitor |
| 12:12.58 | [Ammo] | stop fapping to the same porn image then |
| 12:14.09 | winkiller | lol |
| 12:17.59 | profalbert | ~seen ckknight |
| 12:18.00 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 13h 15m 44s ago, saying: 'Deformat'. |
| 12:18.21 | p4aved | he's away for a week |
| 12:18.23 | p4aved | i think |
| 12:20.59 | Fisker- | [Ammo] my archnemesis |
| 12:23.17 | thul | so, should I move to johannesburg, capetown, hong kong, seattle, chicago, london or maybe perth to write my thesis? |
| 12:23.45 | sacarasc | London sucks. |
| 12:24.15 | thul | why? |
| 12:24.26 | SunTsu | thul: The crowdier the city the more you'll be doing everything except writing your thesis |
| 12:24.44 | sacarasc | It's expensive and full of twats. |
| 12:24.54 | thul | well, that is no problem, I'm effective when i have to, and work the best if I have distractions to keep me busy when not working :-P |
| 12:25.06 | Twisted-Transist | 25 OS +3D is tiring |
| 12:25.13 | Twisted-Transist | an hour an half of failing |
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| 12:40.00 | Twisted-Transist | any of the CC dev's around? |
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| 12:42.35 | Twisted-Transist | I think a bug (http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-new/tickets/63-removing-addons-remove-needed-dependances-of-other/) has come up again |
| 12:43.00 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-1: 03StingerSoft * r36 LibStatLogic-1.1/LibStatLogic-1.1.lua: - ruRU update |
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| 12:52.48 | Pneumatus | Twisted-Transist: if you're able to reproduce it file another ticket perhaps? |
| 12:54.02 | Twisted-Transist | idk |
| 12:54.24 | Twisted-Transist | I have the activity log open from when i removed the addons |
| 12:54.31 | Twisted-Transist | but its pretty none discriped |
| 12:55.08 | Twisted-Transist | http://pastebin.com/d35eb122f |
| 13:02.17 | Twisted-Transist | Pneumatus is there a hidden log somewhere that tells more details about what happens when adding and removing addons? |
| 13:02.23 | Elkano | that sucks... guild mate tried to log in just to notice that his account was compromised for some time by now and had just been ebayed (the later we found out after some investigation) |
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| 13:03.25 | Kalroth | uhm, so they hacked his account and ebayed? riiiight |
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| 13:03.40 | Kalroth | more like he ebayed it himself |
| 13:04.25 | Pneumatus | sounds more like he bought the account on ebay himself tbh |
| 13:05.03 | Twisted-Transist | or quit wow, ebayed his account and decided to come back to wow and get his old account back |
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| 13:05.51 | Kalroth | Hackers hack accounts for quick gold, not to sell them on ebay :) At best they'll transfer the character. |
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| 13:16.42 | Twisted-Transist | how do i reopen a closed ticket? |
| 13:17.02 | profalbert | change the status |
| 13:17.17 | Pneumatus | can only do it on your own tickets tho |
| 13:17.49 | Twisted-Transist | it was mine |
| 13:22.11 | Twisted-Transist | i cant seem to find out where to reopen the ticket |
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| 13:43.33 | Twisted-Transist | anyone know an addon that will give me a nice search all alt bags, banks and guild bank like ArkInventory does? |
| 13:44.15 | SunTsu | Twisted-Transist: I use Baggins/Baggins_Anywhere for that |
| 13:44.37 | Hjalte | Twisted-Transist: BankItems |
| 13:44.59 | winkiller | still possessions |
| 13:45.11 | winkiller | and altoholic |
| 13:45.13 | winkiller | :P |
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| 13:52.51 | kenlyric | odd, i've been trying unsuccessfully to turn off that feature in arkinventory |
| 13:55.20 | Twisted-Transist | i really like arks search |
| 13:55.32 | Twisted-Transist | so handy when you know part of the name of an item but dont know who has it |
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| 13:56.29 | Hjalte | You can do the same with something like Ludwig (an item database addon) and BankItems |
| 13:57.19 | SunTsu | Twisted-Transist: Then stay with ark ;) |
| 13:57.28 | Twisted-Transist | yeah thinking i might go back to ark |
| 13:57.41 | Twisted-Transist | tried out bagnon and its very nice |
| 13:59.23 | Twisted-Transist | of all the bag mods iv tried so far |
| 13:59.38 | Twisted-Transist | they all seem to handle offline vieing of alts banks ans bags |
| 13:59.42 | Twisted-Transist | as well as item counts |
| 14:00.06 | Twisted-Transist | but none have had the search all alts bags and banks that ark has |
| 14:00.39 | Hjalte | Twisted-Transist: There might be some plugins for Baggins that does that. |
| 14:00.40 | SunTsu | Twisted-Transist: Baggins has |
| 14:01.00 | SunTsu | Twisted-Transist: Baggins_Anywhere lets you search alts and banks |
| 14:01.32 | Twisted-Transist | i havent tried baggins yet |
| 14:01.42 | Twisted-Transist | mainly because its description doesnt describe much |
| 14:01.53 | Twisted-Transist | @describe baggins |
| 14:01.54 | Repo | Twisted-Transist: http://www.wowace.com/projects/baggins/. Baggins. Inventory Management with virtual bags divided into sections. |
| 14:03.03 | pb_ee1 | @descripe Elephant |
| 14:03.13 | pb_ee1 | @describe Elephant |
| 14:03.14 | Repo | pb_ee1: http://www.wowace.com/projects/elephant/. Elephant. Elephant logs the chat for you in the background. It saves the WHISPERS, BATTLEGROUND, RAID, PARTY, SAY, YELL, OFFICER and GUILD chats separately, but also all general chats (General, Trade,... |
| 14:03.27 | SunTsu | Twisted-Transist: Baggins lets you organize your inventory into virtual bags like "equipment" "tradeskills" - and then you can assign to them sections like "weapons", "breast armory" and such |
| 14:03.41 | Twisted-Transist | cool |
| 14:03.47 | Twisted-Transist | that is something i can do in AI |
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| 14:05.11 | SunTsu | Twisted-Transist: I know, I tried Ark for some time, but I didn't like how it looked |
| 14:05.55 | Twisted-Transist | i dont mind how it looks |
| 14:06.01 | Twisted-Transist | iv used it 4 so long |
| 14:06.10 | Twisted-Transist | atm i have far 2 many addons |
| 14:06.13 | Twisted-Transist | im trying to slim down |
| 14:06.25 | Twisted-Transist | find the heavy ones and replace them with lighter one's if possible |
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| 14:16.46 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.2.6-18-gcf06d4d / (3 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 14:16.49 | Repo | cf06d4d: Added an assertion with an detailed error message to debug an error in the action button code. |
| 14:16.52 | Repo | 1f8d66d: Securely hide the old Blizzard UI, thus working in combat |
| 14:17.12 | Xinhuan | bankitems lets you search alt bags, twisted ;p |
| 14:19.49 | Twisted-Transist | a friend suggested it 2 me just then as well |
| 14:19.58 | Twisted-Transist | going 2 see what baggins is like |
| 14:21.51 | Twisted-Transist | Xinhuan hows the new wowequip coming along? |
| 14:22.28 | ZealotOnAStick | Hello peoples, been a while. What's up? |
| 14:22.37 | Xinhuan | i've written the main frame and equip frame |
| 14:22.48 | Xinhuan | but haven't touched selection of gems/enchants/profiles yet |
| 14:23.20 | Xinhuan | trying to think of a less clunky way |
| 14:23.26 | Xinhuan | than having multilayer menus |
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| 14:25.33 | Twisted-Transist | what about a totaly new config frame with drop down box's 4 gem etc |
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| 14:25.54 | Groktar | pounces Xinhuan |
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| 14:26.28 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 14:26.43 | Twisted-Transist | morning |
| 14:26.57 | [Ammo] | lo kaelten |
| 14:27.09 | Twisted-Transist | Kaelten i think my closed ticket about removing addons also removing libs need by other addons has come back up |
| 14:27.20 | Kaelten | oh? |
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| 14:27.48 | Twisted-Transist | ill find the ticket |
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| 14:29.08 | Twisted-Transist | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-new/tickets/63-removing-addons-remove-needed-dependances-of-other/ |
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| 14:38.10 | Xinhuan | hmm Chatter needs to be able to copy text in that GM chat frame |
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| 14:49.13 | ZealotOnAStick | Heya Kaelten, how goes man? |
| 14:49.24 | Kaelten | tired, you? |
| 14:49.29 | Groktar | pounces Kaelten |
| 14:49.36 | Kaelten | Groktar: hot female? |
| 14:49.52 | Groktar | http://www.guild-impulse.net/gallery/pic.php?mode=large&pic_id=32 |
| 14:49.55 | Groktar | totally hawt now |
| 14:50.00 | Kalroth | granpa Kaelten |
| 14:50.01 | Groktar | got me a sex change last night |
| 14:50.11 | Kaelten | Kalroth: lolwut? |
| 14:50.16 | Kaelten | Groktar: heh |
| 14:50.23 | Dark_Elf | O.O |
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| 14:50.30 | Kalroth | Kaelten: You're tired and old |
| 14:50.36 | Kaelten | :P |
| 14:50.49 | nevcairiel | compared to kalroth and his 12 years, everyone is old |
| 14:51.14 | Kalroth | my 12 years? hey, she's at least 14 |
| 14:51.19 | Kalroth | you're so dirty, nev |
| 14:51.32 | nevcairiel | 14? didnt feel like it! |
| 14:51.51 | Kalroth | But telling me that I'm a kid is a compliment, so thanks! |
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| 15:06.01 | Twisted-Transist | Kaelten how can I open up a closed ticket? |
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| 15:23.43 | steev | stupid character copy |
| 15:24.01 | steev | it shows "successful" at copying to the pve server... and then it also shows it is pending |
| 15:24.08 | steev | so wtf, is it pending or is it done |
| 15:25.22 | sacarasc | Log in and see? |
| 15:25.27 | SunTsu | steev: It copied the job successfully into the copy queue ;) |
| 15:26.07 | SunTsu | I can't even copy my toon because the queue is full |
| 15:32.01 | ZealotOnAStick | Kaelten: going pretty good. On low-carb diet, dropped about 20 pounds in 15 days. Keeping on with it. |
| 15:34.27 | Twisted-Transist | try the oxygen diet |
| 15:34.31 | Twisted-Transist | best one ever |
| 15:38.39 | steev | 20 lbs in 15 days... sounds unhealthy |
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| 15:40.08 | krka | sounds like being on a 14 day starvatation after having giving birth to a 10 lbs baby |
| 15:40.53 | ZealotOnAStick | I ain't starving. I'm eating tons. It's great. |
| 15:41.22 | krka | loves carbs in all shapes and forms |
| 15:41.29 | krka | especially the fast ones! |
| 15:42.23 | SunTsu | .o0( Low carb - I couldn't live without noodles ) |
| 15:43.24 | ZealotOnAStick | check out Dreamfield's pasta. |
| 15:43.45 | ZealotOnAStick | Great stuff. Low digestible carbs, low glycemic index, tastes like . . . pasta. |
| 15:43.57 | SunTsu | OK, I'll tell my company's restaurant ;) |
| 15:44.25 | ZealotOnAStick | Good! More restaurants need to offer freaking low-carb options. |
| 15:44.37 | ZealotOnAStick | ( ha HAH!) |
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| 15:45.09 | SunTsu | I don't believe in low carb, low fat and any other diet in fashion |
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| 15:45.52 | ZealotOnAStick | If done right, it's not a "fashion" or fad diet, it's a change in eating habits for life. |
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| 15:47.48 | SunTsu | ZealotOnAStick: Yeah, which alone helps. Conscious eating. "the dose makes the poison" |
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| 15:52.41 | Hirsute | And if not done right, it's a change in eating habits that's as hard on your health as not doing it. |
| 15:53.14 | Hirsute | Saw someone the other day that went on a low-carb, high protein diet. At tons of steak, bacon, ground beef, etc. |
| 15:53.31 | Hirsute | s/At/Ate |
| 15:54.00 | SunTsu | Hirsute: Yeah, Aetkis |
| 15:54.04 | SunTsu | Aetkins |
| 15:54.33 | Hirsute | Yeah, I call it a recipe for heart disease |
| 15:56.02 | SunTsu | Hirsute: No, it actually works. The basic thesis is that mankind can deal better with meat than with grain, because of the evolutionary process |
| 15:57.08 | Hirsute | SunTsu: Which isn't supported by *any* credible research. I don't have issues with Low Carb, High protein diets, but getting most of your energy from protein from red meat is getting your energy with a lot of fat and cholesterol, both of which are proven to lead to heart disease |
| 15:57.34 | Hirsute | If a person wants to go that route, the majority of his meat should *not* be red meat. |
| 15:57.38 | SunTsu | Hirsute: I know people who did that quite successfully. But, as I said, I don#t believe in any of these things. The basic problem is that in order to lose weight you have to have to do more work for energy than you feed yourself |
| 15:57.46 | SunTsu | How that is reached does not matter |
| 15:58.03 | Hirsute | It *does* matter because of the other things that come with what you're eating. |
| 15:58.17 | Hirsute | They may lose weight, it doesn't mean they aren't killing their hearts. |
| 15:59.58 | steev | hugs his steak |
| 16:00.24 | SunTsu | Hirsute: And it does not mean they eventually do ;) Not every fat is the same ;) But, as I said, I really don't believe in any low something. |
| 16:00.25 | Hirsute | steev: Don't hug it, eat it! Just as long as steak isn't all you eat. |
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| 16:00.54 | steev | Hirsute: eh, i don't eat the healthiest, I know this, I just don't care |
| 16:01.08 | Hirsute | SunTsu: You're right, not every fat is the same, but the fat that comes from red meat, when consumed in high quantities *is* universally bad for your cardiovascular health. |
| 16:01.09 | steev | But, if I ever get to be the size of my roommate, please shoot me |
| 16:01.27 | Hirsute | I'd need to know the size of your room mate before I know when to shoot you. |
| 16:01.37 | Hirsute | For all I know, you're as big as he is right now |
| 16:01.41 | Hirsute | reaches for a gun.... |
| 16:01.44 | Hirsute | >.> |
| 16:01.45 | steev | heh |
| 16:01.53 | steev | my roommate is ~5-600 lbs |
| 16:02.01 | Hirsute | drops his jaw |
| 16:02.01 | steev | I'm *almost* 150 |
| 16:02.03 | Hirsute | Wow. |
| 16:02.14 | steev | he goes grocery shopping every day |
| 16:02.58 | SunTsu | .o0( Well, if he looks like hulk while being 300 lbs... ) |
| 16:03.07 | SunTsu | or 600 lbs, that is |
| 16:03.48 | Megalon | 500-600lbs? daily fluctiation? :P |
| 16:04.04 | nevcairiel | Megalon: before and after dinner |
| 16:04.11 | Hirsute | Those are large bowel movements |
| 16:04.19 | thul | I'm a measly 220 lbs. |
| 16:04.21 | Megalon | >:C |
| 16:04.23 | Hirsute | (sorry, studying Gastroenterology right now) |
| 16:04.49 | steev | i used to be 220 |
| 16:04.58 | steev | when I was in the military |
| 16:05.13 | SunTsu | I don't even know how much I am, as long as I feel good |
| 16:05.42 | Nahkiss | steev, err..how tall are you? |
| 16:05.44 | thul | i ahve to keep an eye on my weight before competitions :-P |
| 16:05.48 | steev | Nahkiss: 5'8 |
| 16:06.01 | SunTsu | thul: Eating competition? ;) |
| 16:06.33 | thul | SunTsu: submission wrestling :-P |
| 16:07.01 | Nahkiss | 6'2 and 147lbs ^_ ^ |
| 16:07.42 | SunTsu | I basically think people are too number orientated. Who cares how much you weigh as long as you feel good and can do anything you want to? |
| 16:07.59 | thul | SunTsu: well, if the weight classes are what they are, you kind of have to fill or meet them :-P |
| 16:08.31 | SunTsu | thul: Or you take the next one, but yeah, that's a special case |
| 16:08.31 | Hirsute | Wow. Someone would need to be about 11 feet tall to be healthy while weighing 600 lbs. |
| 16:09.20 | Hirsute | SunTsu: Because is you weigh too much, you won't feel good or be able to do what you want as long. |
| 16:09.44 | Hirsute | s/is/if |
| 16:09.45 | thul | SunTsu: well, that is not often an alternative that is wise :-P |
| 16:09.59 | SunTsu | Hirsute: Right, but it's something you can't nail down to numbers |
| 16:10.01 | thul | way too many people in the western world feel good as over weight |
| 16:10.04 | thul | that is a health problem. |
| 16:10.11 | thul | it doesen't help that they feel good, they are fat bastards. |
| 16:10.17 | Hirsute | SunTsu: It's something that can be nailed down to numbers fairly well, actually. |
| 16:10.36 | Hirsute | You just have to use the right numbers |
| 16:11.44 | SunTsu | Hirsute: So, if I told you that there were times, I was 230 lbs with 180cm you'd say I was fat, right? ;) |
| 16:12.08 | thul | SunTsu: wrong numbers. |
| 16:12.11 | Hirsute | SunTsu: I don't know, I'd need to know other numbers to be sure of that. |
| 16:12.15 | Hirsute | Those are the wrong numbers. |
| 16:12.19 | thul | SunTsu: but if you have a fat percentage of 35 |
| 16:12.20 | thul | you are fat. |
| 16:12.24 | thul | unhealthily fat |
| 16:12.32 | thul | and if you have a lot of abdominal fat, that is even more unhealthy |
| 16:12.36 | Hirsute | Tell me your waist circumfrence at the time, and I can tell you better. |
| 16:12.54 | thul | waist circumference, intra-abdominal fat, fat-percentage... |
| 16:12.56 | thul | colesterole levels :-P |
| 16:13.07 | Hirsute | But, even better would be body fat percentage. |
| 16:13.43 | Hirsute | % lean body mass would be a good indicator as well. |
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| 16:15.57 | Kazie | How good is Pitbull4 by now, compared to 3? |
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| 16:16.34 | SunTsu | Hirsute: I don't know, never did measure anything, the only thing I know is the circumfence of my right femoral muscle, which was 65cm |
| 16:16.50 | SunTsu | Kazie: 42 ;) |
| 16:17.05 | Kazie | Funny stuff SunTsu.... i didn't get it ..:P |
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| 16:17.29 | SunTsu | Kazie: The point was, how should anybody measure how they compare? |
| 16:17.56 | SunTsu | Kazie: Just take a look at pb4 and see how you like it |
| 16:18.01 | Kazie | Well, another way to put it.. Have Pitbull4 reach a point, where its able to replace P3 completely? |
| 16:18.30 | SunTsu | Kazie: AFAIK raid frames are missing, which is smth. i use grid for |
| 16:18.47 | SunTsu | The rest looks quite complete |
| 16:18.58 | Kazie | Nice, how about profile transfering? |
| 16:19.07 | Kazie | from P3 to P4, or do i have to work my magic again? :P |
| 16:19.25 | SunTsu | Kazie: I don't think there's something like that, but pb4 is not that hard to set up |
| 16:20.37 | Kazie | cool |
| 16:20.42 | Hirsute | However, in absence of other information, that would be a BMI of 43-44. With that right femoral circumfrence, I'm going to guess you did a lot of strength training and had a lot of lean body mass, so BMI will tend to be less of a good measure. |
| 16:20.46 | Kazie | Think i'll replace it then ^^ |
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| 16:23.13 | SunTsu | Hirsute: Yeah, BMI ist quite nice for an absolutely average guy - which nobody is ;) |
| 16:23.29 | Megalon | i have got heavy bones! |
| 16:24.15 | Hirsute | SunTsu: BMI is quite nice for generally average people, which most people are. |
| 16:24.35 | Hirsute | It doesn't work well for the very old, or for the very athletic, works quite well for most other people. |
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| 16:30.09 | Kazie | Anyone who knows a very good alterative to SLdatatext? |
| 16:30.16 | Kazie | alternative* |
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| 16:40.52 | ramoz | why'd you want an alternative? |
| 16:42.21 | Hjalte | Kazie: A LDB display addon with some system plugins? |
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| 16:43.06 | Kazie | ramoz: SLDT is discountinued. |
| 16:43.24 | Kazie | Hjalte: LDB Display you say? |
| 16:43.32 | Kazie | can it be found on wowace or wowinterface? |
| 16:43.52 | Pneumatus | LDB display is a generic term |
| 16:43.56 | Pneumatus | there are lots of them :) |
| 16:44.07 | Pneumatus | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14903 |
| 16:44.21 | Pneumatus | lists a few |
| 16:44.43 | thul | I'm so getting this: http://store.dieselsweeties.com/collections/music-indie-rock-shirts |
| 16:44.58 | Kazie | ahh. well.. i just found SLDT back when it was still a young addon :) not really into all those terms for that kind of addons :) |
| 16:45.04 | pentium166 | is it still possible to modify the game menu? that would be a pretty convenient place for a LDB display |
| 16:46.21 | ramoz | Kazie: the auther say's he's gonna stop development but still maintain it |
| 16:48.08 | Kazie | ramoz: maybe i misread it then |
| 16:48.27 | Kazie | ramoz: just thought i remembered it something about he wouldn't support it anymore. |
| 16:49.50 | Twisted-Transist | I want to see what an xml file looks like once a program is using it (all the frames, pictures and so forth) how can I view this (what program or environment do I need to use)? |
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| 16:55.22 | Camci | to view xlm file? |
| 16:55.23 | nevcairiel | anyone happen to know what font is used for the date etc in the black box below the actionbars? http://images.gammatester.com/pics/f06ab42006ab7165614b394e9dc890ce.jpg |
| 16:55.48 | Camci | raw XML source ? |
| 16:56.01 | Twisted-Transist | i can view the source |
| 16:56.12 | Twisted-Transist | but i want to see what that source turns into |
| 16:56.31 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/boss-notes/. Boss Notes. Bethink (Manager/Author). Approved by Kaelten. |
| 16:57.47 | Camci | I dont think XML carry information about how to display the data. |
| 16:57.54 | Camci | as you want |
| 16:58.39 | nevcairiel | Twisted-Transist: maybe take a look at http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=15357 |
| 17:02.49 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: visitor is the font name |
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| 17:05.49 | Zarnivoop | winkiller: the heroic/normal switcher addon I mentioned earlier is at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12620-AntiZo.html, when the powers that be have approved |
| 17:06.02 | winkiller | thanks :) |
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| 17:39.15 | Repo | 10seraphimraidtracker: 03Barret7sc * r16 Core.lua: |
| 17:39.18 | Repo | Fixed issue that would cause the client to go into view only mode on startup every time. |
| 17:39.21 | Repo | Changed the way individual items are handled for syncing. It now sends the whole record for the player to prevent any overlap. |
| 17:41.32 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1538 RecipeDB/ARL-Vendor.lua: AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:41.34 | Repo | - fixed wrong faction IDs for vendors (Ticket 405) |
| 17:48.38 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles * r65 / (3 files in 1 directory): EasyDKP: - |
| 17:48.41 | Repo | Updated swap between 1.5 & 2 times multiplier to be 15 people. |
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| 17:49.10 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles 04v0.5.6 * r66 : EasyDKP: - |
| 17:49.13 | Repo | Release v0.5.6 to Curse.com |
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| 17:53.00 | Kazie | wow.. P4 fails epic. :s |
| 17:53.07 | Kazie | no offense to the author tho |
| 17:53.17 | Kazie | Maybe i should write a ticket |
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| 18:06.32 | ZealotOnAStick | P4? |
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| 18:06.49 | Stanzilla | pitbull4 |
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| 18:08.02 | ZealotOnAStick | I was under the impression it was still in development, alpha quality? |
| 18:08.58 | Stanzilla | it is |
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| 18:20.59 | stolenlegacy | ~project seraphimraidtracker |
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| 18:25.42 | NeoTron | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/15211010290-virulence-and-morbidity-swap.html I'm sorry but the reasoning given for that change is stupid |
| 18:26.08 | NeoTron | so pvpers had to put 8 points into unholy... big deal. let's screw up everyone that pve's which is still likely majority |
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| 18:30.12 | digmouse | @project seraphimraidtracker |
| 18:30.13 | Repo | digmouse: http://www.wowace.com/projects/seraphimraidtracker/. Seraphim Raid Tracker. Game: WoW. Barret7sc (Manager/Author). Updated: 50 minutes ago |
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| 19:08.07 | durcyn | NeoTron: if only they'd just implemented hero classes correctly from the get-go, we wouldn't have these problems. |
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| 19:10.39 | NeoTron | this is really just a general issue with thought patterns in general |
| 19:10.47 | NeoTron | not DK specific per se |
| 19:10.48 | stolenlegacy | I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but what do you think of this unholy dk tanking build when 3.1 hits? |
| 19:10.50 | stolenlegacy | http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deathknight=00500000000000000000000000003250005000000000000000000000205230330120115230001203133050&glyph=090406050601&version=9626 |
| 19:10.51 | pentium166 | s/hero class/pvp/ |
| 19:11.13 | NeoTron | "make mandatory pvp talent easy" and at the same time "make low benefit optional pve talent mandatory" |
| 19:11.37 | NeoTron | pentium166: that I can agree with! |
| 19:12.00 | NeoTron | it seems like they are aware that this is a very negative change to pve DK's though at least |
| 19:12.26 | Stanzilla | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15443414368 < 3.1 api changes |
| 19:13.19 | NeoTron | I used virulence as a filler only because Outbreak was pretty useless before |
| 19:13.37 | stolenlegacy | Stanzilla: from the first lines i read that means that we have to use xml for frames now? ouch |
| 19:13.48 | stolenlegacy | at least if we want those animations zoot mentions |
| 19:13.51 | NeoTron | stolenlegacy: Master of Ghouls is for all intent and purpose useless for pure tanking |
| 19:14.03 | NeoTron | not having scourge strike is bizarre |
| 19:14.11 | Stanzilla | Upcoming Glory of the Raider Reward Changes When 3.1 goes live, the rewards for âGlory of the Raiderâ and âHeroic: Glory of the Raiderâ are being removed. |
| 19:14.14 | Stanzilla | >.< |
| 19:14.20 | NeoTron | that's not a very good tanking build I'd say |
| 19:14.20 | pentium166 | also they're making changes to promote not being pigeonholed into one spec... for death knights |
| 19:14.26 | pentium166 | one pvp spec* |
| 19:14.52 | pentium166 | they claim that they want to do it for everyone but they haven't actually done anything to work towards that |
| 19:14.57 | stolenlegacy | NeoTron:shouldn't i better use death strike instead of scourge strike? |
| 19:15.16 | stolenlegacy | or i might actually take scrouge strike and glyph it |
| 19:15.22 | stolenlegacy | with the chance to inflict disease |
| 19:15.23 | NeoTron | never |
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| 19:15.38 | NeoTron | very possibly that for blood dk's it's better but definitely not for unholy |
| 19:15.48 | NeoTron | and you didn't even have reaping |
| 19:16.22 | stolenlegacy | hmm...do icy talons work on bosses? |
| 19:16.44 | stolenlegacy | otherwise i'm taking those 5 points out |
| 19:16.46 | AckisWork | Stanzilla: what's that about the glory of the raider changes? |
| 19:16.54 | NeoTron | http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deathknight=00550200000000000000000000000050000000000000000000000000205230335100015233001203103150&glyph=150417050601&version=9626 |
| 19:16.57 | Stanzilla | AckisWork: you dont get the mount anymore |
| 19:16.58 | NeoTron | there's a good unholy tank build |
| 19:17.07 | AckisWork | Stanzilla: wtf why? |
| 19:17.22 | Stanzilla | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/12/8137346923-upcoming-glory-of-the-raider-reward-changes.html |
| 19:17.22 | VonhintenHOME` | oooh, animation API... more efficient combat scrolling text |
| 19:17.23 | Stanzilla | read |
| 19:17.25 | NeoTron | some like to pick up lichborne but I prefer more threat gen |
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| 19:17.44 | stolenlegacy | NeoTron: is 2h spec really neccesary? |
| 19:17.54 | stolenlegacy | i'd like taking imp icy touch more |
| 19:18.07 | stolenlegacy | and why no wandering plague? |
| 19:18.56 | NeoTron | 2h spec is extra threat |
| 19:19.09 | NeoTron | unholy is already lowest single target threat in theory due to dps relying on pet |
| 19:19.21 | NeoTron | wandering plague because it is of minimal benefit when tanking with low crit rate |
| 19:20.04 | NeoTron | and imp icy touch is useless for deep unholy with scourge strike glyph |
| 19:20.12 | NeoTron | and not to mention the longer duration diseases now |
| 19:20.21 | NeoTron | you'll use it like 2-4 times in a fight |
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| 19:21.27 | stolenlegacy | but 6% aspd is quite a bunch of dmg less taken |
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| 19:21.35 | stolenlegacy | assuming it works on bosses, again |
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| 19:25.23 | stolenlegacy | and the 20% melee aspd also means a load of aggro (from icy talons) |
| 19:25.49 | Gnarfoz | <VonhintenHOME`> oooh, animation API... more efficient combat scrolling text <- details? |
| 19:26.08 | VonhintenHOME` | was posted above by stanzilla, 3.1 API changes |
| 19:26.21 | Stanzilla | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15443414368 |
| 19:26.55 | NeoTron | stolenlegacy: I assume you have windfury totem or another DK, as well as another class to provide the 20% attack speed reduction |
| 19:26.58 | NeoTron | like a prot warrior |
| 19:27.21 | NeoTron | if you don't have a prot warrior or whatever other class that provides it sure |
| 19:27.35 | VonhintenHOME` | It looks like the warhammer type animation API, only with an XML interface as well (almost like XAML) |
| 19:28.07 | stolenlegacy | NeoTron: since we'll also be getting dual specs, i might aswell take both specs and switch according to the members of my raid |
| 19:28.39 | stolenlegacy | since with mining/jewelcrafting i won't end up grinding mobs too much, i suppose :) |
| 19:28.57 | NeoTron | your original spec was still pretty much broken regardless |
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| 19:29.14 | stolenlegacy | the problem is that i already only have 51 points in unholy |
| 19:29.39 | stolenlegacy | the only tier i could take points out of is the ebon plaguebringer/wandering plague one |
| 19:30.25 | stolenlegacy | or i might just remove wandering plague |
| 19:32.51 | NeoTron | ... |
| 19:32.57 | NeoTron | you CAN have more than 51 points in a tree |
| 19:33.39 | NeoTron | your spec would have absolutely horrid threat generation and unless you were a tier ahead of your dps they wouldhave pulled aggro |
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| 19:34.04 | stolenlegacy | i know |
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| 19:35.27 | stolenlegacy | http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deathknight=00500000000000000000000000003250005100000000000000000000205230330020015233001203103150&glyph=170406050601&version=9626 |
| 19:35.51 | stolenlegacy | i took scourge strike with the point from corpse explosion |
| 19:36.01 | stolenlegacy | since in boss fights i don't assume a nearby corpse |
| 19:36.28 | stolenlegacy | took the 3 from wandering plague to reaping |
| 19:36.38 | stolenlegacy | might also place those into blood-caked or necrosis |
| 19:36.57 | stolenlegacy | and master of ghouls got into lichborne, which is also variable |
| 19:40.24 | NeoTron | do you really never have a shaman or another frost dk in the raid? |
| 19:40.37 | NeoTron | those five points in icy talons are completely wasted if you do |
| 19:41.14 | stolenlegacy | this spec is assuming a worst-case scenario for 25mans |
| 19:41.28 | stolenlegacy | and a not-so-uncommon scenario for 10mans |
| 19:42.14 | stolenlegacy | i would take a spec that assumes a frost dk/shammy in my raid as 2nd spec |
| 19:43.09 | stolenlegacy | speaking of which |
| 19:43.25 | stolenlegacy | http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?shaman=25003015000000000000000003050500310502133303113123105100000000000000000000000000&glyph=130803030507&version=9626 would be for my enh shammy |
| 19:43.34 | stolenlegacy | using windfury mh, flametongue oh |
| 19:44.06 | stolenlegacy | strength of earth/flametongue/mana spring/windfury would be my totem set |
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| 19:49.52 | ramoz | oi, anyone know if 3.1 will let you know quests you've done? |
| 19:50.48 | stolenlegacy | ramoz: the current patch notes don't say so, afaik |
| 19:51.22 | taleden | anyone know if the gear manager is on the ptr yet? i'm not seeing it anywhere |
| 19:52.00 | Stanzilla | you have to enable it in the options |
| 19:52.00 | stolenlegacy | taleden: are dual specs up yetß |
| 19:52.00 | stolenlegacy | ? |
| 19:52.00 | Stanzilla | yes :P |
| 19:52.00 | SaladFork | yes |
| 19:52.00 | taleden | yeah, dual is in |
| 19:52.06 | taleden | and the talent preview is great, it speeds up the talent frame response time a lot |
| 19:52.13 | taleden | i guess because it saves all the server comm til the end when you commit |
| 19:52.43 | stolenlegacy | and they managed to not just use different actionbar pages like bartender already does, but doubled the number of bars every player has? |
| 19:53.47 | taleden | i don't see any extra action bars |
| 19:53.56 | taleden | still bottom left/right, right, right2 |
| 19:54.12 | stolenlegacy | they said that actionbars would change when you change between specs |
| 19:54.31 | stolenlegacy | like, you have one actionbar setup for spec 1 , and one for spec 2 |
| 19:54.39 | stolenlegacy | and when you switch from 1 to 2, they automagically change |
| 19:54.43 | taleden | oh, haven't tried that |
| 19:55.05 | taleden | it'd be nice if that means there are more builtin bars and it reassigns the visible ones to the other half of them, but i kinda doubt it |
| 19:55.05 | stolenlegacy | i'm just interested if they use different pages, or another set of pages altogether |
| 19:55.51 | stolenlegacy | because if they just shift pages like bartender does with stances/forms, that would be friggin bad |
| 19:56.00 | VonhintenHOME` | goddamn Collide.cpp error on PTR |
| 19:56.04 | stolenlegacy | i'm already using all 10 of bartender's bars |
| 19:57.26 | durcyn | stolenlegacy: no, it's all shifted on the back-end, you get two unique sets of 120 buttons. |
| 19:57.54 | SaladFork | How does it interact with keybindings? |
| 19:58.12 | stolenlegacy | durcyn: that's nice then |
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| 20:02.22 | taleden | durcyn: does that mean it's possible for mods like bartender to let you configure and use both sets at once? or can you only access one set while in one spec, and can't access the other til you switch? |
| 20:02.54 | SaladFork | I would imagine the latter |
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| 20:03.31 | nevcairiel | You need to switch to access it |
| 20:03.42 | taleden | that's kind of a pity, but not surprising |
| 20:03.43 | nevcairiel | the game doesnt tell you there is two sets of actions |
| 20:03.48 | nevcairiel | it just switches them |
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| 20:15.15 | Fisker- | fuck you blizzard |
| 20:15.20 | Fisker- | no glory of the raider in 3.1 ;_; |
| 20:15.42 | Tristanian | eh ? they removed it ? |
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| 20:16.17 | Fisker- | It'll be there |
| 20:16.18 | Megalon | no drakes |
| 20:16.20 | Fisker- | but you can't get the mount |
| 20:16.25 | Megalon | achievement remains the same |
| 20:16.35 | Megalon | it's so people like Fisker- |
| 20:16.38 | Tristanian | good thing we got the mount then :p |
| 20:16.51 | Megalon | can't do it with full ulduar equip |
| 20:16.53 | Stanzilla | wtb Immortal -.- |
| 20:16.56 | Megalon | just before 3.2 hits :p |
| 20:17.07 | Fisker- | Megalon yeah skilled and wellequipped melee can't |
| 20:17.08 | Tristanian | its a shit colored mount anyway |
| 20:17.14 | Tristanian | only good thing about it, is the speed |
| 20:17.44 | durcyn | i like the plauged one more than the black, but 310 is 310. |
| 20:17.45 | Megalon | yeah, missed our last immortal run 2 weeks ago, so i'll have to wait for the next one |
| 20:17.47 | Megalon | :7 |
| 20:17.55 | Fisker- | immortal is pretty easy |
| 20:18.03 | Fisker- | but not 25 people in our guild focused enough |
| 20:18.06 | Fisker- | so we're doing 10-man |
| 20:18.15 | Fisker- | but we can't do 10-man because it's either melee or casters, not both |
| 20:18.16 | Tristanian | easy if you dont have retard X ruining it :p |
| 20:18.44 | Fisker- | so foiled by flawed Blizzard designs again |
| 20:18.51 | Fisker- | And of course all the exploiters get to keep their mount |
| 20:18.52 | Fisker- | :) |
| 20:18.56 | Fisker- | how fun and exciting |
| 20:19.14 | Fisker- | good thing they banned me for getting some more candy corn that i should've |
| 20:19.38 | Stanzilla | exploiters? |
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| 20:19.41 | Stanzilla | what? how? |
| 20:19.48 | Fisker- | Spark stacking |
| 20:20.00 | durcyn | spark stacking wasn't an exploit. |
| 20:20.05 | Fisker- | It was fixed, so yes. |
| 20:20.14 | durcyn | if you'd said sartharion 3.0.8 reflective shield, i'd perhaps agree with you |
| 20:20.23 | Fisker- | that's true as well |
| 20:20.32 | Tristanian | spark stacking was the only way you could do it before the timer got increased |
| 20:20.34 | Fisker- | But it doesn't matter how the exploit is achieved |
| 20:20.38 | Fisker- | It's an exploit regardless |
| 20:20.38 | Tristanian | unless you have another example |
| 20:20.42 | NeoTron | spark stacking was unintended and was fixed because it required druid stacking |
| 20:20.48 | Tristanian | and dk |
| 20:20.49 | Tristanian | :p |
| 20:20.55 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 20:20.55 | durcyn | the sparks were rootable, that's creative use of game mechanics at worst. |
| 20:21.03 | Fisker- | nope |
| 20:21.11 | NeoTron | the new method isn't harder (I'd say it's easier overall) so .. |
| 20:21.17 | Tristanian | way easier |
| 20:21.25 | Tristanian | and doesn't require the stacking |
| 20:21.28 | NeoTron | right |
| 20:21.32 | NeoTron | of any kind |
| 20:21.41 | NeoTron | 2 DK's is enough stacking for 25-man |
| 20:21.48 | NeoTron | we did it in like less than 10 tries |
| 20:22.01 | Tristanian | We did it both before and after |
| 20:22.18 | Fisker- | Well the tactic still mostly rely on reducing his HP to like 25-30% by the time phase 2 starts |
| 20:22.18 | Tristanian | I just can't see how it could be done before the "fix" without that strategy |
| 20:22.31 | Fisker- | Atleast that's the only tactic i've got |
| 20:22.34 | Tristanian | actually you reduced it to way lower than that |
| 20:22.39 | Tristanian | try close to 10% |
| 20:22.42 | Fisker- | Try 1% |
| 20:22.44 | Tristanian | or lower |
| 20:22.45 | Fisker- | i'm talking about now |
| 20:22.48 | Tristanian | yup |
| 20:22.51 | Tristanian | ah yeah |
| 20:23.13 | Tristanian | I remember :p |
| 20:23.17 | Tristanian | 8 sparks, |
| 20:23.22 | Tristanian | 103k starfire crit :P |
| 20:23.45 | Torhal | hates waking up. |
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| 20:23.55 | Tristanian | morning Torhal |
| 20:23.58 | Torhal | Yola :) |
| 20:24.01 | Fisker- | Unfortunately getting malygos below 50% can't be achieved unless you stack casters |
| 20:24.10 | Tristanian | yeah |
| 20:24.34 | Fisker- | "Oh you can come when we massively outgear it in ulduar" |
| 20:24.35 | Fisker- | "...k |
| 20:24.36 | Fisker- | " |
| 20:24.40 | NeoTron | Fisker-: err unless you suck |
| 20:24.52 | Tristanian | well "stacking", I'd say 8 casters are enough |
| 20:24.53 | Fisker- | Fact NeoTron |
| 20:24.55 | Fisker- | deal with it |
| 20:24.59 | Tristanian | maybe overkill :P |
| 20:25.10 | NeoTron | http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/2014653#damageout stacked caster? |
| 20:25.29 | Fisker- | Doesn't look like 10-man to me |
| 20:25.48 | NeoTron | it's not |
| 20:25.54 | Fisker- | i noticed |
| 20:25.59 | NeoTron | but 10 man was absolutely trivial |
| 20:26.05 | NeoTron | 2nd try |
| 20:26.42 | NeoTron | and like 7-8 tries for 25-man I believe |
| 20:30.51 | NeoTron | http://robit.info/sws/sws-malygos-1235459559/index.html 10 man |
| 20:31.43 | Megalon | netron, you call that raid not stacked on casters? |
| 20:31.55 | Megalon | NeoTron |
| 20:33.51 | NeoTron | I don't call it anything |
| 20:33.59 | NeoTron | as you can see from DPS casters don't have a significant advantage |
| 20:34.26 | NeoTron | also |
| 20:34.46 | NeoTron | we had two vortex there. if oud dps had been slightly better we'd had like 20 extra seconds left |
| 20:35.05 | NeoTron | so yeah you don't need to stack anything but you do need a reasonbly balanced group and stacking might help |
| 20:35.10 | NeoTron | but 10 man 6m kill is trivial |
| 20:36.14 | Tristanian | http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/1989514#damageout we had 9 casters there |
| 20:36.59 | Megalon | well, i did it when it was 5mins on 10man |
| 20:37.31 | Tristanian | 10man was and is significantly easier |
| 20:37.33 | Tristanian | well |
| 20:37.36 | Tristanian | more "forgiving" |
| 20:38.12 | Fisker- | pretty odd though |
| 20:38.26 | Fisker- | The only guilds here who have done malygos in under 6 minutes have done it on 25-man |
| 20:38.33 | NeoTron | main issue making 25-man harder is having 25 people perform in phase 3 |
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| 20:38.59 | sylvanaar | what would you guys recommend as an arena mod |
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| 20:39.05 | Tristanian | well I haven't bothered recording a 10 man |
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| 20:40.50 | EthanCentaurai | what's the best way for an Ace3 addon to call methods inside it's modules? is there a "CallMethodOnAllModules" type thing? |
| 20:41.18 | NeoTron | there's no framework for "modules" is there? |
| 20:41.41 | EthanCentaurai | there is _sortof_ |
| 20:41.48 | Odlaw | SendMessage i think |
| 20:42.03 | Odlaw | tho it's not 'just' your addon |
| 20:42.11 | Odlaw | err sec. |
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| 20:42.41 | Odlaw | ya, SendMessage is what I used, since I couldn't find anything else. |
| 20:42.50 | EthanCentaurai | would it be best if I added it to the module prototype and make the modules hook it? |
| 20:43.04 | many | mh. anyone got a clue how the ID of an instance is built? |
| 20:43.08 | EthanCentaurai | *slap face* or use a callback? |
| 20:44.06 | NeoTron | I just have an array with the plugins and iterate through it. quick hack but I only have one "plugin" right now :P |
| 20:45.26 | EthanCentaurai | decides to try the callback route |
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| 20:45.59 | nevcairiel | personally, i would always just use self:IterateModules() and call the method |
| 20:46.05 | nevcairiel | screw callbacks within your own addon :P |
| 20:47.03 | nevcairiel | if you use the AceAddon module framework, that is |
| 20:47.40 | EthanCentaurai | decides to try nevcairiel's idea |
| 20:48.50 | Tristanian | what are you up to anyway Ethan ? :p |
| 20:48.51 | NeoTron | I must have completely missed thatt here's some sort of module framework in ace3 |
| 20:49.12 | EthanCentaurai | Tristanian: re-writing Chinchilla to use Ace3 |
| 20:49.18 | Tristanian | :O |
| 20:49.23 | Tristanian | cool |
| 20:49.38 | Tristanian | ck gave his blessing I guess |
| 20:49.57 | EthanCentaurai | not yet, I'm just hacking it while he's on holiday |
| 20:50.05 | Tristanian | aha ! |
| 20:50.08 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: every AceAddon object has a NewModule function, and modules are just new AceAddon objects :) |
| 20:50.19 | EthanCentaurai | I won't release it until I have permission, it's his child after all |
| 20:50.33 | NeoTron | imagine that. I will take a look at that - makes sense to use for Magic Runes |
| 20:50.45 | Tristanian | I think Chatter uses such a logic |
| 20:50.49 | Tristanian | but could be wrong |
| 20:50.50 | NeoTron | when I work on modularizing it.. right now the one module is always "embedded" but I plan to change that |
| 20:51.32 | steev | mmmm magicrunes |
| 20:54.24 | Tristanian | "The souvenirs use the same graphics as the tabards, but the cool thing is anyone can buy them and wear them" |
| 20:54.40 | Tristanian | Darnassus one looks like the tree of Gondor |
| 21:00.14 | VonhintenHOME` | man, PTR is getting hammered.. keeps shitting itself |
| 21:02.35 | steev | is it ever not getting hammered? |
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| 21:29.44 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r48 / (6 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 7 lines) |
| 21:29.48 | Repo | Bugfixes: |
| 21:29.51 | Repo | questlog tagging (ticket 25) |
| 21:29.54 | Repo | questtracker (ticket 26) |
| 21:29.57 | Repo | properly implement unlimited number of quest tracking through the questlog |
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| 21:35.10 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou 04r48beta * r49 : Tagging as r48beta |
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| 21:45.15 | Repo | 10grid-auto-frame-size: 03CrazyBenny * r61 GridAutoFrameSize.lua: - bugfix |
| 21:45.59 | sb|work | ohhh |
| 21:46.03 | sb|work | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/12/15443184457-upcoming-glory-of-the-raider-reward-changes.html |
| 21:46.06 | sb|work | :o |
| 21:46.08 | Repo | 10grid-auto-frame-size: 03CrazyBenny 042.3.1 * r62 : Tagging as 2.3.1 |
| 21:46.38 | sb|work | Bibi: go, post it :p |
| 21:46.42 | sb|work | important thingie ;) |
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| 21:47.44 | Skellum | Anyone know how PB4 is atm? |
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| 21:51.20 | sylvanaar | anyone want to recommend a good arena mod? |
| 21:52.16 | SaladFork | Proximo? |
| 21:52.22 | sb|work | wow 3.1 :/ |
| 21:52.35 | Lysithea | sylvanaar gladius |
| 21:53.32 | Lysithea | also http://www.pvptutorial.com/ for other mods you might want |
| 21:57.22 | sztanpet | @project gladius |
| 21:57.22 | Repo | sztanpet: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/gladius/. Gladius. Game: WoW. Proditorlol (Manager/Author). Updated: 16 days ago. Tickets: 1/1 |
| 21:58.56 | Torhal | sylvanaar: Are chat tabs broken in Prat? I can't seem to get them to do anything, flashing disabled or enabled. |
| 22:02.31 | sylvanaar | er = let me see |
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| 22:08.05 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r5 / (2 files in 1 directory): Continued UI development |
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| 22:15.11 | sylvanaar | Torhal works for me |
| 22:15.36 | Torhal | Hmm |
| 22:15.39 | sylvanaar | How did you configure it? |
| 22:15.40 | Torhal | kk |
| 22:15.42 | Torhal | Oh |
| 22:15.45 | Torhal | Lessee |
| 22:16.12 | sylvanaar | mine test started with all boxes checked grey |
| 22:16.24 | Torhal | I don't have Disable Flashing checked, and all options are grey-checked |
| 22:16.34 | sylvanaar | active alpha is 1 |
| 22:16.35 | Torhal | Active alpha is 1, non-active is 0.5 |
| 22:16.38 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 22:16.49 | sylvanaar | and what is the background alpha of the chatframe |
| 22:17.09 | Torhal | 0 |
| 22:17.13 | sylvanaar | set it to 0.6 |
| 22:17.19 | vhaarr | Tekkub: did you see what I wrote yesterday about tourguide? |
| 22:17.55 | Torhal | Ok, gona go test on something. |
| 22:18.55 | Tekkub | did you write it somewhere where it lands in my inbox? |
| 22:19.15 | vhaarr | Tekkub: nah I wrote it here with a ping to your nick |
| 22:19.27 | Tekkub | then no, I probably didn't |
| 22:19.54 | vhaarr | Tekkub: but I just opened the lua file and figured out why .. what I said was that "when I try to load the Howling Fjord guide in TG, it just goes to 100% instantly" |
| 22:20.04 | vhaarr | but I just opened it now and I see the guide is indeed empty |
| 22:20.06 | vhaarr | so that explains it |
| 22:20.07 | Torhal | sylvanaar: Still doesn't work - does it matter than I had my chatframes alpha set using Blizzard's method? |
| 22:20.38 | Tekkub | ok |
| 22:20.48 | Repo | 10big-wigs_common-auras: 03mojosdojo * r126 CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: deDE tweaks |
| 22:21.36 | VonhintenHOME` | Man, I'm getting the shit spammed out of me on my CurseForge sneakemail address |
| 22:22.22 | nevcairiel | you should use gmail, i rarely get any mail going through their spam filter, and virtually no false positives |
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| 22:23.05 | VonhintenHOME` | point is, only curseforge has that email address... |
| 22:23.58 | nevcairiel | I don't even get alot of spam on the mail address i used on wowace/curseforge, must be something you did :p |
| 22:24.39 | VonhintenHOME` | not likely, and sneakemail addresses are so random, no one guessed it |
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| 22:27.32 | ckknight | hey all |
| 22:27.49 | EthanCentaurai | hi ckknight :D |
| 22:28.00 | EthanCentaurai | enjoying New Orleans? |
| 22:28.06 | ckknight | I'm back from New Orleans |
| 22:28.20 | Pneumatus | see many boobs? :o |
| 22:28.26 | EthanCentaurai | s/enjoying/did you enjoy/ |
| 22:28.27 | ckknight | EthanCentaurai: was funa |
| 22:28.29 | ckknight | fun* |
| 22:28.31 | ckknight | lots of free-range breasts |
| 22:28.37 | ckknight | yes, Pneumatus |
| 22:28.47 | Pneumatus | excellent! |
| 22:28.49 | ckknight | we also hung out in strip clubs about every night |
| 22:29.11 | ckknight | my sister-in-law heard one of the strippers sharing her coke line with two of her coworkers |
| 22:29.18 | ckknight | (in the bathroom) |
| 22:29.37 | nevcairiel | how nice of her, sharing is good! |
| 22:30.09 | ckknight | yea, she said something along the lines of "I'm so nice, of course I'll let you share" *sniff* |
| 22:30.21 | EthanCentaurai | and on that note, I'm off to bed as it's 11pm here |
| 22:30.35 | EthanCentaurai | see you tomorrow |
| 22:30.47 | nevcairiel | it cant be 11pm, since its :30 |
| 22:31.01 | EthanCentaurai | smart arse :P |
| 22:31.27 | Pneumatus | pro as, got illustration of the dragonsoul finally :o |
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| 22:33.54 | Welshpaladin | mad trinket |
| 22:34.31 | nevcairiel | i got that too, its teh awesome |
| 22:35.11 | ckknight | I'm assuming everyone survived without me |
| 22:35.19 | ckknight | if not, my grievances |
| 22:35.42 | nevcairiel | the packager died once, but i resurrected him |
| 22:35.47 | nevcairiel | other then that, sure we live .P |
| 22:38.08 | Pneumatus | we've only had 3x illustration drop so far, and have been clearing since the week after release |
| 22:38.17 | Pneumatus | random loot is random :< |
| 22:38.37 | nevcairiel | we had the healy mace of kelthuzad once |
| 22:38.39 | nevcairiel | wtb moar |
| 22:38.42 | ckknight | Repo still alive? |
| 22:38.44 | ckknight | @ping |
| 22:38.45 | Repo | pong |
| 22:38.53 | Pneumatus | i think we have had the KT mace twice now |
| 22:38.54 | nevcairiel | reports too |
| 22:39.15 | Pneumatus | am still using impossible dream |
| 22:39.22 | nevcairiel | same |
| 22:39.39 | Pneumatus | isnt crit a bit mediocre for druids? |
| 22:39.40 | nevcairiel | I'll do anything to get the legendary |
| 22:39.45 | Pneumatus | me too :> |
| 22:39.56 | nevcairiel | but what can you do, there isnt much better out there |
| 22:40.07 | nevcairiel | nothing that dropped, anyway |
| 22:40.11 | Megalon | wraith strike |
| 22:40.16 | Megalon | best style |
| 22:40.18 | Pneumatus | oh, druids cant use swords either |
| 22:40.38 | nevcairiel | no |
| 22:40.52 | nevcairiel | preferrably lots of spirit and some haste |
| 22:41.02 | Pneumatus | there's a general lack of healer weapons atm |
| 22:41.04 | nevcairiel | but thats not always avail :) |
| 22:41.54 | nevcairiel | ice spire scepter would probably be better, but didnt have it drop from Malygos10 yet |
| 22:42.03 | Pneumatus | illustration on a disc priest is so awesome :o |
| 22:42.10 | Pneumatus | its like, its never gonna not be up |
| 22:42.23 | nevcairiel | i doubt any class is idling for 10s |
| 22:42.44 | Pneumatus | blizzard seem to think so |
| 22:42.49 | Pneumatus | they must be nerfing oo5sr for some reason |
| 22:43.09 | nevcairiel | maybe some fail priests did that to fix their lack of good playing |
| 22:43.31 | Pneumatus | perhaps |
| 22:43.52 | nevcairiel | thats why i don't care about that stuff, in hard fights like sarth3d, none of the healers in our raids have even time to go out of 5sr |
| 22:44.04 | nevcairiel | so go nerf it |
| 22:44.08 | nevcairiel | we dont care |
| 22:44.09 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 22:44.24 | nevcairiel | They should still nerf the in-combat mana regen too |
| 22:44.27 | nevcairiel | its too good |
| 22:44.48 | nevcairiel | Its silly that i have the same mana regen now that i had in sunwell, which means i can last forever |
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| 22:47.48 | Torhal | Wrath == EZMODE. |
| 22:57.31 | Fisker- | hahahha |
| 22:57.44 | Fisker- | someone defending that a druid bear got the melee trinket from sarth with "He needs it for threat" :DDD |
| 22:57.55 | robotusch | xD |
| 22:58.06 | robotusch | En fra SD? |
| 22:58.40 | Fisker- | næ pug |
| 22:58.46 | robotusch | tsk |
| 22:59.49 | Zyndrome | that's fukken terribad |
| 23:00.12 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 23:00.38 | Zyndrome | another thing that is terribad is the infinite queue times on Quake Live... |
| 23:01.05 | Codayus | nevcairiel: Current state of 3.1 indicates that in-combat regen is being nerfed fairly agressively for priests. A lot is still in flux, of course, so...we'll see. |
| 23:07.29 | Pneumatus | meditation is up to 50% in combat, but that doesnt mean anything when out of combat is like 0 anyway |
| 23:07.48 | Pneumatus | the overall regen is a nerf, and disc have been futher nerfed by rapture changes |
| 23:10.35 | Camci | WTB poker addon so you can play with your ingame gold with |
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| 23:13.30 | robotusch | doesn't exist |
| 23:16.30 | Arrowmaster | Zyndrome: queue time is around 7000 every time i try |
| 23:16.37 | Codayus | Pneumatus: Might be what your saying, but to be clear - in combat regen due to medidation has not changed; the meditation "buff" is just to cancel out the overall spirit-regen nerf. |
| 23:17.42 | Codayus | So OOFSR regen down, in-combat regen constant. To that you have to add the rapture, serendipity, and HC hanges, as well as the removal of IHC. |
| 23:17.57 | Pneumatus | and surge of light |
| 23:18.21 | Codayus | Hm, did they change that one to? Then yeah. I'm disc, so not paying that much attention to holy changes. :-) |
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| 23:23.43 | sylvanaar | Torhal yes - the frame alpha from bliz is a 3rd alpha value |
| 23:24.33 | Camci | isnt there any poker addon u can play with 2+ players atleast? :/ |
| 23:25.40 | sylvanaar | Torhal if u go to frames/chatframe alpha, and set it < the blizzard value the frame fade in/out will stop. So set it to like 0.1 |
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| 23:28.17 | sylvanaar | Torhal mine works - wierd. try reseting that module's settings |
| 23:29.13 | sylvanaar | Torhal if you are using the svn version (debug) you can use /script chattabs.db.profile = {} |
| 23:39.15 | Torhal | sylvanaar: Logging in from supper and trying what you said. |
| 23:40.36 | sylvanaar | if you can get it in debug mode, we can maybe figure out the problem |
| 23:41.23 | Torhal | I'll have to grab from SVN? |
| 23:41.55 | sylvanaar | its easier to work with that way |
| 23:42.19 | Torhal | Ok. |
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| 23:50.18 | devZero | when setting a button texture using xml, say for a minimap button.. what is the path relative to? I've got Interface\AddOns\MyAddOn\MyAddon in there now to point to the MyAddOn.tga file in my addon root folder |
| 23:51.01 | sylvanaar | relative to the wow executable |
| 23:51.15 | devZero | thanks |
| 23:54.51 | Skellum | Hrm |
| 23:54.56 | Skellum | I have a surprise for everyone |
| 23:55.02 | Skellum | Apparently the PTR makes my mods buggy. |
| 23:55.08 | Skellum | You're all surprised arent you. |
| 23:56.14 | Torhal | sylvanaar: Ok, I'm running in SVN mode, ran the chattab nuker line |
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| 23:57.04 | sylvanaar | do a /rl |
| 23:57.34 | sylvanaar | make another profile "test" switch to it. then disable all the modules |
| 23:57.48 | sylvanaar | and reload, then enable just chattabs |
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