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| 00:20.36 | Repo | 10project-13368: 03crashmstr * r32 / (2 files in 1 directory): ASSinTrade: |
| 00:20.39 | Repo | - Updates to work with 3.x |
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| 00:33.44 | Arrowmaster | @project project-13368 |
| 00:33.46 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-13368/. ASSinTrade. Game: WoW. crashmstr (Manager/Author). Updated: 12 minutes ago |
| 00:44.32 | sylvanaar | anyone know how to macro corpse explosion? |
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| 00:48.36 | NeoTron | macro how? |
| 00:49.20 | NeoTron | I find it rather aggravating to use since 1) when you can use it mobs are usually all dying/dead anyway, 2) it often doesn't "just work" and it's hellishly annoying to try to find a target... |
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| 01:06.24 | WobWork | sylvanaar: Mouseover macro it with clique |
| 01:06.32 | WobWork | for party members =P |
| 01:06.52 | WobWork | but you'd want a mouseover macro in any case |
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| 01:29.31 | sylvanaar | macro it to your pet i mean |
| 01:31.57 | NeoTron | you mean like /cast [target=pet] Corpse Explosion ? |
| 01:33.22 | Bruners | uhm, why do you need a macro for corpse explosion ? |
| 01:34.10 | Bruners | just have a target that is alive and a dead corpse nearby, click, BOOM |
| 01:34.23 | NeoTron | that doesn't boom your pet |
| 01:35.13 | Bruners | works for me |
| 01:35.22 | Bruners | or is this the talented pet? |
| 01:39.14 | NeoTron | you're saying corpse explosion will explode your pet without targeting it? with corpses around? |
| 01:39.17 | NeoTron | sounds buggy |
| 01:39.28 | NeoTron | I'd never want it to explode the pet automatically |
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| 01:41.26 | WobWork | no cause exploding the pet does more damage than exploding corpses |
| 01:41.50 | WobWork | it does ridiculous amounts of damage, cause you're casting the pet explode skill |
| 01:42.06 | WobWork | rather than your corpse explode one specifically |
| 01:44.28 | Bruners | WobWork: there is a difference is exploding your dead pet and another dead corpse? |
| 01:44.40 | Bruners | *in |
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| 01:47.05 | WobWork | I believe so yes |
| 01:47.10 | WobWork | oh wait not dead pet |
| 01:47.18 | WobWork | since the corpse of your pet disappears I think |
| 01:47.30 | WobWork | there is a difference in exploding a dead corpse and your live pet |
| 01:47.45 | WobWork | in damage, but not in execution |
| 01:48.43 | Bruners | WobWork: and this is the talented pet you are talking about? |
| 01:49.48 | WobWork | yes |
| 01:50.07 | WobWork | Granted, it may have all changed since I last was unholy =) |
| 01:50.27 | Bruners | i have never been unholy, so i cant comment on that |
| 01:51.22 | Bruners | i refuse to play another character with perma pet :P |
| 01:52.12 | robotusch | lol, new IQD-type monument inc :D |
| 01:52.25 | WobWork | The perma pet thing for unholy is a bit unwieldy |
| 01:52.26 | kenlyric | it'll be like building your castle in Civ 1/2 |
| 01:52.35 | WobWork | cause you need to talent terribly to get the avoidance |
| 01:52.49 | WobWork | it's good for pvp though |
| 01:52.57 | robotusch | oh, right, the castle |
| 01:53.10 | robotusch | was wondering for a moment wth I've been missing in my current 2400 AD game |
| 01:54.28 | kenlyric | it's the true cause of the ruination of the civ franchise |
| 01:54.30 | kenlyric | no more castle |
| 01:54.37 | robotusch | nah |
| 01:54.42 | robotusch | the old videos is what I'm missing |
| 01:55.01 | robotusch | some of those videos were awesome, even if the actual wonder was crap |
| 01:55.31 | robotusch | like the Cure for Cancer one, one mother of an eerie ambient atmosphere that gave off :3 |
| 01:55.49 | Bruners | http://img.4chan.org/b/res/119217182.html <- no 1 reason i love living in norway |
| 01:56.06 | WobWork | Bruners: WS? |
| 01:56.15 | WobWork | I'm guessing no, due to 4chan |
| 01:56.20 | Bruners | its WS |
| 01:56.22 | WobWork | but if there's one thing I've learned from 4chan |
| 01:56.26 | WobWork | is that it can always surprise me |
| 01:56.27 | Bruners | at least the 15 first posts |
| 01:56.41 | WobWork | hm, actually |
| 01:56.49 | WobWork | I'd better not browse that here at all =P |
| 01:56.54 | WobWork | won't look good in the logs =P |
| 01:57.11 | p4aved | mmo-champ is hosed again? |
| 01:57.18 | robotusch | stopped by /b/ earlier, only had to scroll 1/4 to regret it bigtime >_> |
| 01:57.37 | Bruners | WobWork: huge fucking spider in a shower |
| 01:58.06 | kenlyric | my boss, who is not new to the internet by a large stretch, discovered 4chan last week |
| 01:58.25 | kenlyric | I envy the length of his innocence |
| 02:00.30 | robotusch | xD |
| 02:01.18 | Bruners | was a seriously huge ammount of facebook/hotmail accounts posted on /b/ yesterday |
| 02:03.30 | WobWork | Bruners: do you not have spiders in Norway? |
| 02:04.18 | robotusch | they'd probably freeze to death or migrate south when they saw the beer prices |
| 02:04.30 | Bruners | WobWork: we do have them, at the size of a . |
| 02:04.43 | Bruners | WobWork: and noone of them spew poison |
| 02:04.51 | WobWork | lives in Australia, so sudden death from venemous wildlife is a daily part of life. |
| 02:04.59 | WobWork | We just don't pet the animals =P |
| 02:05.16 | RaydenUni | any idea why TankWarnings wo'nt let me disable it for pvp? |
| 02:05.19 | NeoTron | poisonous wombats are a big problem I've heard |
| 02:05.21 | RaydenUni | i get yelled at in wintergrasp :D |
| 02:05.51 | NeoTron | not to mention the koalas that drop on your head if you walk under their trees. |
| 02:05.52 | Bruners | no dangerous animals in north norway really |
| 02:06.04 | p4aved | DROPBEARS! |
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| 02:06.29 | WobWork | this ^ |
| 02:06.54 | RaydenUni | http://mediabeta.curse.com/Curse.Projects.ProjectImages/15543/10493/prefs5.jpg <-- THAT option |
| 02:07.00 | RaydenUni | i can't uncheck it! |
| 02:07.49 | NeoTron | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_bear |
| 02:08.07 | p4aved | that has a wikipedia page? |
| 02:08.14 | p4aved | should have a snopes page |
| 02:08.27 | NeoTron | it does indeed |
| 02:09.31 | NeoTron | probably too obviously fake for Snopes |
| 02:10.22 | RaydenUni | EV Nova had drop bears :D |
| 02:11.11 | p4aved | every person who comes to Aussie we convince of dropbears |
| 02:11.22 | p4aved | well, that i meet ... |
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| 02:12.27 | RaydenUni | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULEQpUY_crc |
| 02:12.28 | RaydenUni | rofl |
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| 02:23.44 | Bruners | is pb4 ready for raid use now? |
| 02:24.58 | RaydenUni | HVH is so boring to tank now |
| 02:25.03 | RaydenUni | especially if you ever wipe |
| 02:25.04 | WobWork | Actually drop bears are less of a threat now |
| 02:25.09 | ulic | Bruners: not last I checked, but it's been a few weeks. |
| 02:25.12 | WobWork | The tree climbing crocs ate the majority of them |
| 02:25.27 | Bruners | crocs can climb? |
| 02:25.30 | quiescens | what's a hvh |
| 02:25.38 | p4aved | H violet hold |
| 02:26.00 | WobWork | RaydenUni: it was ever non boring to tank? |
| 02:26.04 | RaydenUni | i dunno |
| 02:26.07 | RaydenUni | never noticed it till now |
| 02:26.14 | Bruners | WobWork: was ok the two first times |
| 02:26.21 | robotusch | HVH is a pain to tank |
| 02:26.31 | WobWork | and wiping is so irritaing |
| 02:26.32 | NeoTron | WobWork: do they also drop on you? |
| 02:26.37 | p4aved | early when that 3 mind flays would target the healer it would be fun |
| 02:26.39 | NeoTron | like lunge from a nearby branch |
| 02:26.44 | robotusch | Only one trashmob = me being mana starved |
| 02:26.55 | Bruners | how can it be a pain when i tank it with ease as dps blood spec in forst presence |
| 02:26.56 | WobWork | NeoTron: they've developed skin flaps between their legs |
| 02:27.07 | RaydenUni | yeah we got xevozz first and wiped |
| 02:27.08 | WobWork | They can glide silently for quite some distance now =\ |
| 02:27.19 | NeoTron | dangerous place, that Australia |
| 02:27.26 | WobWork | oh yeah |
| 02:28.55 | Bruners | australia = austria |
| 02:29.18 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 02:29.34 | WobWork | hehe I remember when I was in Beijing |
| 02:29.51 | WobWork | one of my friends from Austria always got so pissed when people mistook it for Australia |
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| 02:29.58 | robotusch | xD |
| 02:30.01 | robotusch | oh well |
| 02:30.03 | robotusch | could be worse |
| 02:30.19 | robotusch | clueless tourists that mistake Sydney, Ontario for Sydney, NSW |
| 02:30.59 | robotusch | argh, that would be Sydney, Nova Scotia |
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| 02:31.49 | p4aved | Curse Client 2.1.2.0 is release? |
| 02:32.35 | Bruners | what should be the normal working temp for a laptop with core 2 duo T7250 ? |
| 02:32.51 | winkiller | not over NINE THOUSAND |
| 02:33.40 | Groktar | forty two! |
| 02:34.17 | exor674 | Bruners: 5 degress hotter then 1/100000000th the tempature of the sun |
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| 02:37.07 | Bruners | forty two sounds more like it |
| 02:44.20 | Bruners | do i dare to update the bios on a laptop ? |
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| 02:50.04 | quiescens | I don't think 42 was intended as a real answer |
| 02:50.13 | quiescens | at least, not to that question |
| 02:51.20 | quiescens | depends which temperature you're talking about anyway, cpu itself? |
| 02:51.39 | quiescens | and then it depends on your ambient room temperature |
| 02:56.17 | TradeMark | my desktop core 2 typically runs at about 55, or 65 under load |
| 02:56.30 | TradeMark | I'd imagine a notebook should be lower though |
| 02:58.02 | TradeMark | that's celcius too |
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| 03:01.08 | WobWork | notebooks run notoriously hot though |
| 03:06.59 | TradeMark | :/ |
| 03:07.58 | TradeMark | I haven't actually owned a notebook in a while, but aren't the "modern" processors geared towards low power consumption? |
| 03:08.34 | TradeMark | low power consumption roughly equates to lower heat generation |
| 03:09.18 | TradeMark | assuming they're of comparable nm process |
| 03:10.00 | sztanpet | heat isnt an issue if its not a gaming laptop |
| 03:11.36 | kenlyric | notoriously hot for their size |
| 03:11.59 | Repo | 10iq: 03kunda * r30 IQ.lua: IQ: |
| 03:12.02 | Repo | - fixed accound bound item bug |
| 03:12.05 | Repo | - fixed 2HWeaponCheck in inspect frame |
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| 03:17.10 | quiescens | even if they're geared for low power consumption, the laptop as a whole, especially if you include the hard drive and the heat generated by the battery due to use |
| 03:17.48 | quiescens | shrugs |
| 03:18.31 | quiescens | they're probably more concerned about having a balance between keeping the fans quiet and keeping a managable temperature rather than just keeping it as cool as possible |
| 03:19.01 | TradeMark | he was meaning processor temperature I think |
| 03:19.04 | quiescens | CPU's have a maximum operating temperature of what, 70, 80 or more? |
| 03:19.10 | TradeMark | but I guess ventilation won't be as good etc |
| 03:20.02 | quiescens | that tend's to be the reason for it |
| 03:20.45 | TradeMark | 75 is considered "hot" for a desktop core 2 duo |
| 03:20.57 | TradeMark | would probably fry it somewhere in the 85-100 range |
| 03:28.04 | quiescens | it would probably throttle before 85 and shutdown at 85 unless the temperature went up much faster than it should |
| 03:29.09 | Bruners | quiescens: cpu temp yes, but i updated the bios and the fan and temp are fine now |
| 03:29.50 | quiescens | I doubt it'll be at 42 unless ambient temperature is fairly low |
| 03:30.05 | quiescens | 50-60 is pretty much reasonable |
| 03:31.25 | Bruners | its in range from 44-55C |
| 03:34.01 | Maelos | Can anyone recommend an addon to summarize the combat log beyond what the built-in filters provide? |
| 03:34.39 | wallen | something like hits-mode? |
| 03:35.59 | Maelos | Yes |
| 03:36.08 | Maelos | This looks like what I want. :) |
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| 03:36.31 | Maelos | Are there any others I should look at as well? |
| 03:44.47 | Groktar | i just had a scary moment |
| 03:45.00 | Groktar | i went to the ptr character copy page and the premade button was lit up |
| 03:45.07 | Groktar | :o |
| 03:45.34 | wallen | Maelos: I don't use that kind of addon anymore but when I did hits-mode was the one I liked the best and I can't remember any other names |
| 03:49.14 | Xinhuan | well the built in filters can be changed to come pretty close to the OLD hitsmode |
| 03:49.41 | wallen | I just noticed that hitsmode5 is being worked on |
| 03:53.16 | Maelos | Xinhuan: I was having problems with the built-in filters. For example, I could not turn off auras on the pet no matter what I tried, short of disabling any data about the pet. |
| 04:01.28 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 04:02.19 | Xinhuan | well the built in filters don't go to that much depth/detail |
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| 04:06.03 | Ackis | anyone develop the rare mob tracker mod thingy yet? |
| 04:06.47 | Xinhuan | kemayo is working on it (SilverDragon) |
| 04:06.52 | Xinhuan | also Kemayo: ping |
| 04:07.36 | Ackis | Xinhuan: I thought that tracked them once you killed them only? |
| 04:07.45 | Xinhuan | unsure |
| 04:07.57 | Xinhuan | i'm under the impression it tracks it on targetting them |
| 04:08.28 | Xinhuan | that is, the addon records your coord when u target it, and checks for some 50 yards radius of an existing one |
| 04:08.36 | Xinhuan | or 100 yards |
| 04:08.49 | Ackis | ahh I use my g15 macros for that |
| 04:09.06 | Xinhuan | well it doesn't really help much |
| 04:09.15 | Xinhuan | since you wouldn't really care about a mob u have killed before |
| 04:09.32 | Xinhuan | you would typically only want to care about rares u _haven't_ seen before |
| 04:09.47 | Ackis | depends, wrath you get nice gold |
| 04:10.03 | Xinhuan | not really, the ones i killed all drop lvl 75 blue crap |
| 04:10.11 | Xinhuan | that don't even sell on AH |
| 04:10.21 | Ackis | DE ftw |
| 04:10.23 | Ackis | or alts |
| 04:10.36 | Xinhuan | yeah 3 gold for a small prismatic shard |
| 04:10.37 | Ackis | they aren't something I would look for, but if I saw one I'd kill it |
| 04:10.41 | Xinhuan | vendor would give more gold lol |
| 04:11.09 | Ackis | know of anything handynoteish that does it right now? |
| 04:11.22 | Xinhuan | just told you - silverdragon |
| 04:11.58 | Xinhuan | it comes with some pre-populated database but only for old world content |
| 04:12.00 | Ackis | i'm so confused thought that was a seperate addon :P |
| 04:12.14 | Xinhuan | and i have data for wrath ones |
| 04:12.21 | Xinhuan | but Kemayo hasn't spoken for 24 hours |
| 04:12.24 | Ackis | @project silverdragon |
| 04:12.25 | Repo | Ackis: No project found that matches 'silverdragon' |
| 04:12.40 | Ackis | so it's missing BC stuff? |
| 04:12.52 | Xinhuan | think so |
| 04:12.56 | Xinhuan | i didn't check |
| 04:13.05 | Xinhuan | @project silver-dragon |
| 04:13.08 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/silver-dragon/. SilverDragon. Game: WoW. Kemayo (Manager/Author). Updated: 31 hours ago |
| 04:13.09 | Xinhuan | feel free to check yourself |
| 04:13.13 | Ackis | yah i already am |
| 04:14.48 | Xinhuan | u see, what happened was |
| 04:14.51 | Xinhuan | someone on my server |
| 04:15.06 | Xinhuan | hacked up GatherMate and added every single rare spawn in the TreasureDB |
| 04:15.26 | Xinhuan | and also hacked up the treasure import DB to include the spawn points for these rare mobs |
| 04:15.45 | Xinhuan | (so if a mob has like 100 seen spots from wowhead, it would have 100 coords for it) |
| 04:15.54 | Xinhuan | so i happen to have all these data |
| 04:16.11 | Xinhuan | but they aren't quite "treasure" to be included in gathermate |
| 04:16.51 | Xinhuan | and since gathermate/handynotes uses the same coord system, it is trivial to copy the data to silverdragon |
| 04:18.25 | Ackis | it looks like it has some BC, etc... not comprehensive however |
| 04:21.25 | Funkeh` | heroes torrent FINALLY |
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| 04:36.30 | Bruners | Funkeh`: welcome to 1 hour ago |
| 05:00.48 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: It has a complete set of defaults for old-world, outland, and northrend. |
| 05:01.35 | Repo | 10cartographer_quest-info: 03lahow * r109 / (6 files in 2 directories): Cartographer_QuestInfo: |
| 05:01.38 | Repo | - add mob tooltip |
| 05:09.10 | Kemayo | Ackis: It's as comprehensive as wowhead. |
| 05:12.10 | Ackis | Kemayo: installed it already ;) hehe |
| 05:12.16 | Ackis | not sure what I'm doing but it's installed |
| 05:15.25 | Ackis | hmm the time lost drake, server restart a good time to look for him? |
| 05:17.38 | WobWork | usually |
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| 05:29.41 | Repo | - Update locale koKR |
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| 05:31.40 | Repo | - Update locale koKR |
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| 05:39.52 | Groktar | ~lart repo |
| 05:39.53 | purl | offers repo some herring |
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| 06:40.52 | Groktar | 'Downloading "WoW-0.1.0-enUS-patch.exe"' |
| 06:41.16 | p4aved | yah patch notes on mmo |
| 06:41.45 | Groktar | Hysteria, Tricks of the Trade, Enrage, Wrecking Crew, Death Wish, Arcane Power, Owlkin Frenzy, Beast Within, Avenging Wrath and Hysteria damage bonuses no longer stack together. |
| 06:41.46 | Groktar | :( |
| 06:41.49 | Civrock_ | Everything installed and ready for servers to coem online. :D |
| 06:41.56 | p4aved | not sure what thats about :/ |
| 06:42.09 | p4aved | warrior notes look incomplete |
| 06:42.32 | quiescens | zomg |
| 06:42.36 | Civrock_ | Nothing is even nearly complete. |
| 06:42.50 | Groktar | lots of dk details |
| 06:42.55 | p4aved | ok |
| 06:43.08 | p4aved | "warrior notes look less complete than the other classes" |
| 06:43.24 | quiescens | someone go find out what the "one time fee" is for the dual spec~ |
| 06:43.36 | Civrock_ | Servers aren't up yet. |
| 06:43.53 | quiescens | ): |
| 06:44.00 | quiescens | you're a lot of help aren't you! |
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| 06:46.08 | Bruners | patch today? |
| 06:47.46 | Hjalte_ | It's up |
| 06:48.40 | quiescens | aw, they're removing all the dk auras |
| 06:49.20 | p4aved | ghey |
| 06:49.26 | p4aved | i liked unholy aura |
| 06:49.49 | quiescens | you can cast thorns in tree form! |
| 06:50.10 | Hjalte_ | They're nerfing Owlkin Frenzy which sucks anyway. More Moonkin changes please :( |
| 06:51.48 | quiescens | auras will now presist through death! |
| 06:53.29 | quiescens | divine aegis stacking, up to 125*level |
| 06:53.39 | quiescens | (aka 10000) |
| 06:54.05 | quiescens | nerf imo |
| 06:54.16 | quiescens | disc talents are hax |
| 06:56.50 | fewyn | they removed the one talent i was considering moving points into |
| 06:56.56 | quiescens | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:57.07 | fewyn | demonic sac |
| 06:57.27 | quiescens | mm, haven't gotten to that, looking through them in order |
| 06:57.39 | fewyn | and anyone have the downloader for the us ptr? the site seems to have died |
| 06:58.59 | quiescens | improved stormstrike, gain 20% of base mana whenever you stormstrike |
| 06:59.01 | quiescens | lol |
| 07:01.38 | quiescens | there's quite a few obvious things they've missed in the notes |
| 07:01.53 | quiescens | so they clearly aren't very complete |
| 07:02.36 | quiescens | this innate bonus to spell hit chance on enslave demon sort of indicates an intention to use enslave demon in an encounter at some point? |
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| 07:08.58 | Repo | 10silver-dragon: 03Kemayo 07master * ff4cb8a / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add config GUI |
| 07:10.52 | Repo | 10silver-dragon: 03Kemayo 07master * eba34db embeds.xml: [+1 commit] Bad LB-Zone in embeds |
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| 07:17.37 | Repo | 10openall: 03Kemayo * r40 OpenAll.lua: Total_cash error if you never mouse over the cash buttonx |
| 07:18.46 | Kemayo | Ackis: Boring things like a button to import your data now exist. |
| 07:19.25 | quiescens | pats Repo |
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| 07:24.53 | NeoTron | took a while but I got a plagued proto dragon! |
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| 07:27.14 | sb|work | quiescens: whats wrong with 10000? |
| 07:27.57 | sb|work | you cant put >10000 dmg shields on someone at the moemnt |
| 07:27.59 | sb|work | so its a buff |
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| 07:28.27 | sb|work | you need 33k heals to create a 10k divine aegis |
| 07:28.43 | sb|work | so its a buff :) |
| 07:30.24 | sb|work | and holy priest changes are great |
| 07:30.59 | Fisker- | http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=15&can=1&q=status:WontFix&colspec=ID%20Stars%20Pri%20Area%20Type%20Status%20Summary%20Modified%20Owner |
| 07:31.01 | Fisker- | i lol'd |
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| 07:36.21 | sb|work | lol |
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| 07:37.38 | Groktar | cries at the warrior nerfcs |
| 07:39.31 | Fisker- | cries at the retribution nerfs |
| 07:40.14 | Groktar | how did they nerf ret? |
| 07:40.36 | Fisker- | by not buffing it |
| 07:40.49 | Groktar | lol |
| 07:40.55 | Fisker- | seriously |
| 07:40.58 | Groktar | TG also reduces dmg done by 10% |
| 07:41.07 | Groktar | feel better? |
| 07:41.16 | Fisker- | nope :( |
| 07:41.25 | Fisker- | not until mages and rogues are nerfed sufficiently |
| 07:41.50 | Fisker- | They're like 1-2k dps infront of palas, even if their RNG is lucky and they do decent dps |
| 07:42.02 | Groktar | rogues? |
| 07:42.12 | Groktar | rogue dps isn't anything to write home about |
| 07:42.24 | Fisker- | it is if you know how to play |
| 07:42.37 | Fisker- | just take some top fights from any statistic pag |
| 07:42.39 | Fisker- | page |
| 07:42.45 | Fisker- | mages, warlocks and rogues will top them |
| 07:42.58 | Fisker- | and palas will be in the bottom crying :( |
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| 07:51.56 | sb|work | hm yay, finally combat rogue buff :o |
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| 07:55.21 | sb|work | Fisker-: and no - rogue dps sucks at the moment, mage/enh shammy/lock is 1-2k dps > rogue |
| 07:56.13 | sb|work | okay, ret dps also sucks :p |
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| 08:08.51 | Groktar | have they come out with any 3.1 api stuff yet? |
| 08:08.52 | Groktar | looks |
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| 08:11.13 | dodga | So where's the download for the test client? Preferably EU version :D |
| 08:11.20 | Fisker- | on the ptr site |
| 08:11.49 | Groktar | if you never deleted a previous ptr |
| 08:11.56 | Groktar | you can just run that and it'll update to 3.1 |
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| 08:13.03 | dodga | Groktar: Yeah, don't have a test client installed atm |
| 08:13.26 | dodga | And the links where I copied my char still gives me 3.0.1-something |
| 08:13.49 | sb|work | then download 3.0.1, run launcher and wait for 0.1 download |
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| 08:14.57 | Groktar | ^ |
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| 08:15.21 | Groktar | i reinstalled the 3.0.9 ptr last week for just this eventuality |
| 08:15.22 | Groktar | :D |
| 08:15.32 | Groktar | almost done patching |
| 08:16.01 | sb|work | my dl / patch is running at home, should be finished later (when i can actually use it) ;) |
| 08:17.02 | Fisker- | WTF |
| 08:17.06 | Fisker- | THEY'RE NERFING RET |
| 08:17.10 | sb|work | ohhh |
| 08:17.11 | Fisker- | IMMA RAGIN MY LASER |
| 08:17.20 | sb|work | pvp ret needs a nerf tbh :) |
| 08:17.29 | Groktar | ^ |
| 08:17.34 | Fisker- | not pvp anyways |
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| 08:18.22 | thul | rages his laserdildo @ Fisker- |
| 08:18.37 | dodga | I don't get why they now allow dots to crit |
| 08:18.52 | sb|work | they do? |
| 08:19.04 | dodga | Talented Corruption crits |
| 08:19.14 | sb|work | * Shadowform: Bonus damage from critical strike chance removed and replaced by the ability of those periodic damage spells to generate critical strikes. |
| 08:19.17 | sb|work | oh okay |
| 08:19.18 | dodga | yeah and that |
| 08:19.24 | thul | http://fc78.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/054/c/f/cf6a031fa7e43772d49f46afeabb0c5d.jpg <- I like that picture |
| 08:19.39 | dodga | Man I need to re-position my parrot then |
| 08:19.43 | sb|work | worksafe? |
| 08:19.47 | NeoTron | so did they nerf of buff epidemic? i.e 3 points for 3s or 3 points for 9s? |
| 08:19.49 | NeoTron | patch notes aren't clear |
| 08:19.57 | dodga | I can't see shit nowadays will everything critting |
| 08:20.04 | dodga | s/will/with/ |
| 08:20.10 | sb|work | replace crit with haste :p |
| 08:20.15 | dodga | lulz. |
| 08:20.25 | dodga | Make dots benefit from haste and I will :P |
| 08:21.27 | sb|work | holy priest changes are really great |
| 08:22.11 | linear` | how abou those warrior changes |
| 08:22.12 | linear` | really good |
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| 08:23.34 | dodga | WTF. there's Imp Renew and Emp Renew |
| 08:23.46 | dodga | That's... stupid :D |
| 08:25.17 | sb|work | <3 emp renew :) |
| 08:25.59 | sb|work | uhm where is it |
| 08:26.08 | sb|work | ah tehre |
| 08:26.14 | renchap | what is the cost of the dual spec ? |
| 08:26.20 | sb|work | meh, t9 talent :/ |
| 08:26.58 | dodga | Still like it? :P |
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| 08:28.29 | sb|work | dodga: yup :p |
| 08:28.33 | sb|work | think so... ;) |
| 08:28.35 | dodga | diaf. :P |
| 08:28.41 | sb|work | *playing with talent calculator* ;) |
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| 08:30.22 | sb|work | hm perfect |
| 08:30.35 | sb|work | all talent points spent, almost got everything i need :p |
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| 08:31.41 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.6.4-2-gb4518a6 Code/CombatEvents.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 08:31.43 | Repo | b4518a6: + make Scroll-areas configurable for all events in a subcategory with |
| 08:31.45 | Repo | 21965fd: + sort CombatEvents-options into subcategories |
| 08:33.41 | sb|work | dodga: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?priest=050320300000000000000000000003505003220205253005331351000000000000000000000000000&glyph=050115030601&version=9614 |
| 08:33.44 | sb|work | easy.. :p |
| 08:34.19 | Groktar | i don't remember ever hearing this emote in game "westfall makes my ass itch" |
| 08:34.32 | CIA-35 | cork: 03Tekkub 07lastbuffed * rf90246b 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Merge fear ward and earth shield modules into an abstract template, add druid thorns to new system - http://bit.ly/rpeNk |
| 08:35.31 | dodga | I don't play holy, so meh :P |
| 08:36.05 | sb|work | pff :) |
| 08:36.13 | dodga | With Imp DP I cannot reach Meditation which.. will suck maybe |
| 08:37.13 | dodga | And even funnier it now deals 15% of it's damage when cast, so I can't even cast it on pulls to get the CD up early to recast it with 5 SW stacks |
| 08:39.43 | sb|work | +50% mana regeneration for 8s on every crit are fun, so with ~25% holycrit its a perm-buff, even when not spamming fh all the time. |
| 08:41.03 | vhaarr | sb|work: especially since Renew can crit as well, although I'm not sure if they refer to the HoT effect or the new instant heal effect from Empowered Renew |
| 08:41.16 | vhaarr | hope it's the HoT :P |
| 08:41.22 | quiescens | the priest healing changes are pretty nice |
| 08:41.36 | quiescens | considering the total lack of healing changes for the other healers |
| 08:42.32 | sb|work | vhaarr: nah, should be emp. renew |
| 08:42.38 | dodga | Renew crits? |
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| 08:43.17 | vhaarr | sb|work: ye, I'm just hoping |
| 08:43.26 | sb|work | we will see ;) |
| 08:43.29 | sb|work | :) |
| 08:43.40 | sb|work | any news on dual spec one-time fee? |
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| 08:44.18 | sb|work | my guess is like 200-500 gold :o |
| 08:44.23 | evl | OH NOES :( |
| 08:44.35 | evl | gawd damn this is some sexy rogue buffage |
| 08:44.38 | evl | me likes |
| 08:44.46 | sb|work | yup :) |
| 08:45.08 | sb|work | but i dont really understand killing spree buff |
| 08:45.27 | sb|work | those +20% on 'damage done while ks is actile' |
| 08:45.34 | sb|work | its KS + 3-4 white hits, isnt it? |
| 08:45.51 | sb|work | so why not calling it "20% damage on killing spree" :O |
| 08:46.36 | evl | I'm never going combat again anyway |
| 08:46.39 | evl | rather quit the game |
| 08:46.56 | evl | only new thing in WOTLK was KS which I frankly don't see much use for in a tight cycle |
| 08:49.43 | quiescens | shadow of death removed from the game |
| 08:49.44 | quiescens | lol |
| 08:50.27 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.6.4-3-gb372c67 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] make custom changelog-style |
| 08:55.39 | sb|work | whats shadow of death? |
| 09:00.50 | quiescens | its the thingy that makes deathknights stay alive as a ghoul |
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| 09:04.51 | sb|work | oh :) |
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| 09:09.52 | Codayus | Wow, they're hitting disc hard with the nerf bat. |
| 09:09.55 | CIA-35 | wow-ui-source: 03Tekkub 07ptr * rac0d0b8 10/ (261 files in 24 dirs): Build 9614 - http://bit.ly/GidvS |
| 09:10.07 | quiescens | rapture? |
| 09:10.13 | Codayus | YEah |
| 09:10.25 | quiescens | it shouldn't be too horrible |
| 09:10.33 | quiescens | combined with the -30% shield cost and -15% flash heal cost |
| 09:11.17 | sb|work | rapture is overpowered at the moment |
| 09:11.43 | sb|work | you dont have any mana issues at all, if you drop down to 50% hp due to mass overhealing - you still have shadowfiend/mana potion.. |
| 09:11.48 | Codayus | sb|work: Yes. But disc is kind of a one trick pony. We get okay heals, and ZOMG RAPTURE MANA. The changes to DA and such are...nice...but... |
| 09:12.48 | quiescens | you're gaining a cheaper shield and flash heal, prayer of healing castable on any party, etc |
| 09:12.49 | sb|work | so stack more crit to keep 10k shields on tank every time :p |
| 09:12.50 | Codayus | With the changes, PWS is going to be...533 mana. Raid buffed priest has...24k mana, so the new rapture will return 600 mana every 12s max, IF the sheild is used, etc. So...after the cost of the shield, we get... 67 mana every 12s, best case. |
| 09:12.54 | quiescens | its hardly all doom and gloom |
| 09:13.18 | quiescens | ! |
| 09:14.17 | Codayus | The talent is oddly worded, it may be that the 12s limitation applies to the mini-regen effect the shield causes the target. But napkin math says rapture is toast. :-/ |
| 09:14.35 | quiescens | the wording does seem to indicate its for the regen effect |
| 09:15.33 | Codayus | Could be either way. If it is the regen effect....eh, we'll see. It'll all depend on how many shields we can burn through. The "must be fully used" limitation is still crippling, I fear, but I'll wait for more testing. |
| 09:19.22 | sb|work | hm so noone here is on the ptr at the moment? :o |
| 09:19.44 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r407 spell.lua: |
| 09:19.47 | Repo | Use talent last rank spell for icon and name, as seems to be used by |
| 09:19.50 | Repo | Blizzard. (see Ticket-26) |
| 09:19.51 | Fisker- | fixmypets zarnivoop |
| 09:20.13 | sb|work | Fisker-: login on ptr now :/ |
| 09:20.16 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry 04v1.9.6-beta1 * r408 : Tagging as v1.9.6-beta1 |
| 09:20.24 | Fisker- | old sb|work |
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| 09:20.41 | sb|work | Fisker-: no you |
| 09:21.23 | sb|work | wtb screenshots of gear manager + costs of dual spec :) |
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| 09:23.10 | CrazyBenny | http://www.flawless-stormrage.eu/naraxi/WoWScrnShot_022409_092851.jpg |
| 09:23.38 | BuM | Strangulate no longer does damage and has been reduced to 1 rank. |
| 09:23.40 | BuM | best change yet |
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| 09:24.25 | sb|work | so its 1k, okay ;) |
| 09:25.04 | sb|work | thank you CrazyBenny |
| 09:25.34 | quiescens | iuno if that sounds worth it for me |
| 09:26.00 | sb|work | well its 20 * respec |
| 09:26.22 | quiescens | nowai, I'm not at 50g yet |
| 09:26.22 | quiescens | lol |
| 09:26.51 | sb|work | then you dont need it :p |
| 09:31.43 | quiescens | although... |
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| 09:32.06 | quiescens | mebeh if I had the dual spec thing I would switch between two of them more |
| 09:32.09 | quiescens | hmms |
| 09:32.10 | sb|work | CrazyBenny: gear manager screenshots? :) |
| 09:32.49 | quiescens | so demanding |
| 09:33.07 | quiescens | if its not one thing its something else |
| 09:33.12 | sb|work | well, whats your class? |
| 09:33.17 | CrazyBenny | sb|work: sorry, thats only one I seen so far :P |
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| 09:33.25 | sb|work | oh ;p |
| 09:33.34 | sb|work | so its not your screenshot!? |
| 09:33.39 | CrazyBenny | nope |
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| 09:38.44 | Repo | 10under-hood: 03Anadale 072 * r52 / (2 files in 2 directories): UnderHood: |
| 09:38.47 | Repo | - Border visibility in UnderHood style is now persisted correctly |
| 09:38.50 | Repo | - Casting condition now has higher priority than combat condition |
| 09:39.16 | Repo | 10under-hood: 03Anadale 042.0.2.2 * r53 : UnderHood: |
| 09:39.19 | Repo | - Tagged as 2.0.2.2 |
| 09:39.29 | quiescens | 0 cooldown on shield, shield glyph, rapture, +15% shield, +40% spellpower to shield are going to make power word shield pretty nice for disc |
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| 10:01.39 | Repo | 10silver-dragon: 03Kemayo 07master * 1206fca / (5 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 10:01.42 | Repo | 1206fca: Add cartographer2 plugin |
| 10:01.45 | Repo | 1d85d3f: Show config when clicking on the ldb |
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| 10:07.52 | Kemayo | pokes the laggy wowace.com |
| 10:09.16 | nevcairiel | its not laggy, something broke it earlier |
| 10:09.32 | nevcairiel | i unlocked the packager |
| 10:09.59 | quiescens | it was kemayo! |
| 10:11.16 | nevcairiel | nah it was whoever commited to parrot |
| 10:11.46 | profalbert | nevcairiel: that would be me |
| 10:11.50 | profalbert | what happened |
| 10:11.59 | quiescens | you borked it ): |
| 10:12.15 | profalbert | i guess |
| 10:12.43 | profalbert | in the last commit I only inserted a manual-changelog |
| 10:13.08 | nevcairiel | yeah and that broke |
| 10:13.55 | profalbert | what did I do wrong? I followed the instructions form the kb |
| 10:14.08 | Repo | 10dropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 07master * ebea679 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Include LibDataBroker-1.1.lua |
| 10:14.43 | nevcairiel | I'm trying to find out |
| 10:15.43 | Repo | 10silver-dragon: 03Kemayo 07master * e08b2a3 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Include LibDataBroker-1.1.lua |
| 10:15.56 | evl | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/february/leatherworking_deathwarmedbelt.jpg |
| 10:16.01 | evl | Someone explain to me Death-warmed |
| 10:16.16 | evl | is it when you die and lose control of bodily functions and the belt is actually warmed by feces? |
| 10:17.55 | nevcairiel | profalbert: might as well be an error in the packager script, we'll see |
| 10:18.13 | profalbert | I guess not that many people use a custom changelog? |
| 10:18.59 | nevcairiel | i wrote the error down to show it ckk when he gets back |
| 10:20.06 | profalbert | so I better remove the line from the pkgmeta for now |
| 10:21.13 | Neebler | just a small town girl living in a lonely world |
| 10:21.21 | Neebler | she took the midnight train going anywhere |
| 10:21.50 | Repo | 10silver-dragon: 03Kemayo 07master * bfb9a4d / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Include LibQTip-1.0 too |
| 10:22.13 | CIA-35 | bimbo: 03Tekkub 07master * r63af1c9 10/ Bimbo.lua : Don't tell people to enchant relics - http://bit.ly/15vcui |
| 10:25.46 | sb|work | bimbo? :o |
| 10:25.51 | sb|work | @project bimbo |
| 10:25.53 | Repo | sb|work: No project found that matches 'bimbo' |
| 10:25.59 | sb|work | arg, wrong bot |
| 10:26.17 | nevcairiel | !addon bimbo |
| 10:26.23 | nevcairiel | hm what was the command |
| 10:26.30 | sb|work | nvm http://github.com/tekkub/bimbo/tree/master ;) |
| 10:26.32 | lua_bot | Found 0 addon results for 'bimbo': http://is.gd/kE9c |
| 10:26.37 | nevcairiel | ah its just slow |
| 10:36.12 | Neebler | Found 1 result for 'bimbo': ckknight |
| 10:36.25 | Neebler | sorry I'm lagging too |
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| 10:36.29 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:36.40 | nevcairiel | thats some serious lag, you should get that checked out |
| 10:37.04 | Repo | 10ratings: 03jerry * r38 / (2 files in 1 directory): Change format to look like wowhead. |
| 10:37.07 | Repo | Allow user to change the format and the level used for calculations. |
| 10:37.10 | Repo | No UI for now. |
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| 10:42.49 | Repo | 10ratings: 03jerry 04v.1.2 * r39 : Tagging as v.1.2 |
| 10:43.12 | nevcairiel | a dot after the v, thats something i havent seen yet |
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| 11:00.05 | Neebler | woooo morning joe live at the white house |
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| 11:00.31 | Neebler | I'm not even into politics, but I like this show |
| 11:10.07 | Neebler | I love it when they integrate common addons into the default UI. no more closetgnome needed |
| 11:10.33 | Neebler | the one they need now is damage meters. its so painfully obvious. and they already have one at the end of battlegrounds |
| 11:10.41 | Neebler | need one for arena and pve |
| 11:11.55 | Neebler | when every noob who doesn't use a single addon, sees their 700 dps, maybe they'll start to improve |
| 11:12.12 | dodga | They won't :> |
| 11:12.30 | Neebler | it would certainly help improve guilds for upcoming uldar |
| 11:12.55 | Neebler | average guilds that dont scrutinize WWS reports |
| 11:13.05 | Neebler | the casuals they're trying to appeal more broadly to |
| 11:13.19 | dodga | I wonder how messed up that "gear manager" will be |
| 11:13.35 | dodga | My wild uninformed guess would be: no match for ItemRack |
| 11:13.36 | quiescens | blizzard's default implementation of common addons are generally lacklustre |
| 11:13.37 | Neebler | just so long as it doesnt delete my gear |
| 11:13.39 | dodga | But we will see :D |
| 11:13.48 | quiescens | rather |
| 11:13.53 | quiescens | have *historically* been lacklustre |
| 11:14.07 | dodga | They should implement gear bags already as they once said |
| 11:14.24 | Neebler | they just like to simplify things, less options. |
| 11:14.27 | dodga | Or give Priests a spell to remove poison :> |
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| 11:19.16 | Twisted-Transist | i think there gear rack will be like the totem ui they gave shaman |
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| 11:22.58 | Fisker- | haha |
| 11:23.03 | Fisker- | what is blizzard thinking :D |
| 11:23.15 | Fisker- | Talent preview is optional and defaults to off |
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| 11:23.34 | nevcairiel | they don't want to change the behaviour |
| 11:23.36 | Skellum | Ugh... |
| 11:23.37 | Fisker- | FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 11:23.40 | Skellum | They mauled the lock class |
| 11:23.45 | Fisker- | i just gained 40 quests on loremaster of kalimdor |
| 11:23.56 | Twisted-Transist | i am really supprised that talents dont have a confirm selection button |
| 11:24.18 | nevcairiel | they have now, if you turn it on |
| 11:25.51 | Fisker- | lol wtf |
| 11:26.01 | Fisker- | the talent thingy even resets by just walking around |
| 11:26.13 | Fisker- | Twisted-Transist the gear rack is there |
| 11:26.19 | Fisker- | also needs to be enabled(lol) |
| 11:26.34 | nevcairiel | the gear rack is not finished yet |
| 11:27.16 | Fisker- | works fine |
| 11:27.22 | Fisker- | except one ring doesn't swap correctly |
| 11:28.38 | Twisted-Transist | i liked wardrobe but that was discontinued so now i use outfitter |
| 11:30.49 | Twisted-Transist | i have a question |
| 11:31.05 | Twisted-Transist | if say outfitter or item rack was put in by blizzard |
| 11:31.28 | Twisted-Transist | would it use less system resources then being an addon? |
| 11:31.38 | Fisker- | not nessecarily |
| 11:36.49 | nevcairiel | definately less then outfitter |
| 11:36.53 | nevcairiel | since its full of lolbloat .) |
| 11:37.07 | nevcairiel | The blizzard equip thingy is about all i need |
| 11:38.19 | nevcairiel | maybe a small addon that adds tooltip info like CLosetGnome_Tooltip |
| 11:38.32 | Twisted-Transist | i tired closetgnome |
| 11:39.00 | Twisted-Transist | but when i was doing the sso daily in nagrand it kept taking my goggles off |
| 11:39.15 | Twisted-Transist | i even made an outfite 4 that zone with them as part of it |
| 11:39.32 | nevcairiel | if you keep clicking closetgnome to switch sets, of course it will! |
| 11:39.49 | Twisted-Transist | i didnt |
| 11:39.52 | Twisted-Transist | i made the set |
| 11:39.54 | Twisted-Transist | landed |
| 11:40.03 | Twisted-Transist | and it would change my helm |
| 11:40.18 | nevcairiel | You probably had some funky plugin that tried to be smart |
| 11:40.27 | Twisted-Transist | so it took longer 2 do the quest because i had 2 wait 4 the cooldown each time |
| 11:40.30 | nevcairiel | CG by itself does nothing until you click it |
| 11:41.16 | Twisted-Transist | i would fly in wearing them so that i could land and collect straight up |
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| 11:41.34 | Twisted-Transist | i would land, dismount and bam CG would change my helm |
| 11:41.56 | Twisted-Transist | so i would have 2 stand there and change back 2 the goggles, wait 4 the cd then collect |
| 11:41.56 | Neebler | awww son of a monkey, 1000g for dual spec thing. I have like 50 gold |
| 11:42.18 | Skellum | Ugh |
| 11:42.18 | SunTsu | Neebler: Then you have enough time to get more ;) |
| 11:42.20 | Skellum | 3.1 is ugly |
| 11:42.23 | dodga | They should make it 10k gold :P |
| 11:42.42 | Twisted-Transist | even after making a zone set with the goggles it would change it on me as soon as i dismounted |
| 11:42.44 | SunTsu | Neebler: I did some quests I had open yesterday, and it brought about 1,5k Gold.. |
| 11:42.57 | Neebler | I have loremaster achievement. no quests left but dailys |
| 11:43.21 | Skellum | Neebler what are your professions? |
| 11:43.21 | nevcairiel | so do dailys |
| 11:43.27 | dodga | I just clear Naxx 25, Sarth and Malygos on a regular basis and just get more and more cash |
| 11:43.29 | Neebler | engineering and leatherworking |
| 11:43.33 | Skellum | Oh |
| 11:43.36 | Skellum | That explains things |
| 11:43.37 | SunTsu | Neebler: Dailies, crafting, whatever, making fold is that easy... |
| 11:43.48 | Skellum | Go level a DK |
| 11:43.56 | Neebler | my mage is a miner and skinner. but I'm far too lazy to gather materials |
| 11:43.58 | dodga | Also it helps doing Baron runs for the mount, disenchanting the crap and selling the enchanting reagents |
| 11:44.56 | Neebler | burnt out on the game. they should give me gold just for my /played ammount |
| 11:45.04 | Neebler | I've given them enough money :P |
| 11:45.14 | Twisted-Transist | i hate doing the dailies so i can raid |
| 11:45.18 | Twisted-Transist | thats all i want 2 do |
| 11:45.28 | Skellum | Raids should be giving you gold |
| 11:45.32 | Twisted-Transist | but each day you have to spend ages grinding rep doing quests etc |
| 11:45.35 | Skellum | Even my pally, tanking, makes gold |
| 11:45.37 | SunTsu | Yeah, they do |
| 11:45.43 | Neebler | yea they give you gold. but in uldar they'll be taking it |
| 11:45.45 | Twisted-Transist | if you dont die and loot everything you can make money from raiding |
| 11:46.17 | Skellum | Are you pugging raids? |
| 11:47.29 | Twisted-Transist | i pug voa and os on my 2 alts and guild raid os, eoe and naxx |
| 11:48.05 | quiescens | elixir of minor accuracy! |
| 11:48.06 | quiescens | lol |
| 11:48.21 | SunTsu | No more unholy aura... |
| 11:48.25 | SunTsu | I nearly cried |
| 11:48.42 | Skellum | Yea, time to get tuskarrs on my boots |
| 11:48.49 | Skellum | At least the mats are much cheeper now |
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| 11:49.32 | Skellum | The warlock changes make me want to punch a baby |
| 11:49.40 | Skellum | The scaling of Unholy looks nerfed further |
| 11:49.50 | Skellum | At least they somewhat broke DW more for DKs |
| 11:50.05 | Skellum | Prot pally tanking looks...different, a little buffed on mitigation |
| 11:50.28 | Skellum | I'm thankful mages did not get any major DPS buffs |
| 11:50.46 | Skellum | I'm pissed all to hell that the new legendary is a healer legendary, but at least it isnt a melee legendary |
| 11:51.19 | Grum | got a link of the stats? |
| 11:51.27 | nevcairiel | all there is a name |
| 11:51.32 | nevcairiel | it could as well be a melee mace |
| 11:51.35 | nevcairiel | stop speculating |
| 11:51.36 | Grum | indeed |
| 11:52.08 | Twisted-Transist | i would love a shaman legendary |
| 11:52.17 | Grum | a mace is a shaman legendary |
| 11:52.20 | Grum | as is the staff |
| 11:52.25 | nevcairiel | gavel suggests a 1h mace |
| 11:52.31 | nevcairiel | which i believe all classes can use |
| 11:52.41 | Grum | locks cant |
| 11:52.49 | nevcairiel | too bad for them :P |
| 11:52.56 | Grum | nor mages afaik |
| 11:53.16 | Grum | locks/mages were dagger/sword right? |
| 11:53.25 | quiescens | yes |
| 11:53.26 | Twisted-Transist | i know locks do |
| 11:53.37 | Grum | priest/shaman staff/dagger/mace |
| 11:53.37 | Skellum | check the SS |
| 11:53.37 | Skellum | http://i42.tinypic.com/2wcfs55.jpg |
| 11:53.44 | Skellum | Its a healing legendary. |
| 11:53.55 | Grum | healing or dps |
| 11:54.07 | Skellum | Basically DPS casters still do not have a single attainable legendary in the game right now. |
| 11:54.14 | robotusch | rhaaa |
| 11:54.19 | Grum | Skellum: HEALING OR DPS |
| 11:54.22 | Grum | stop being a retard |
| 11:54.29 | Skellum | Its going to be itemized for a healer. |
| 11:54.31 | nevcairiel | DPS casters had their legendary in old naxxramas |
| 11:54.32 | Skellum | Look at the SS. |
| 11:54.32 | Grum | why? |
| 11:54.33 | robotusch | was hoping for a bloody 1h tanking mace at some point :( |
| 11:54.38 | Grum | it says nothing |
| 11:54.38 | Skellum | Had |
| 11:54.43 | robotusch | I want my free 5 expertise |
| 11:54.46 | Skellum | And It also had the lowest distribution of any |
| 11:54.54 | Grum | i says that 4 classes which can hold a 1h mace can use it |
| 11:55.02 | nevcairiel | btw, accoutn cancel is that way --> |
| 11:55.03 | Skellum | As well as the warlock one being bugged for most of its existance and removing all +healing from anyone in their group. |
| 11:55.26 | Skellum | Not that you would give a warlock an atiesh anyway, mages were far more worthwhile. |
| 11:55.48 | quiescens | yeah, because there has never been a period of disparity between available legendary weapons |
| 11:55.51 | quiescens | this is clearly a first~ |
| 11:55.53 | Grum | Skellum: tell me: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40395 (Torch of Holy Fire) - is it healing or dps? |
| 11:55.54 | Skellum | Grum, its a healer legendary, its going to be itemized for healers, the flavor text is healer, the classes there are all healers. |
| 11:56.13 | Skellum | Healer, primarily, always give it to a healer/enhanc shaman atm over a DPS. |
| 11:56.25 | Grum | lol |
| 11:56.28 | Grum | *lol* |
| 11:56.30 | Skellum | Just because a warlock can roll on a neck with +20000mp/5 and +20 spellpower |
| 11:56.33 | Skellum | Doesnt mean he should. |
| 11:57.00 | Skellum | Items in game are still pretty clearly made for DPS or healers. With 1-2 exceptions, the Hat off Malygos comes to mind. |
| 11:57.03 | Grum | a lock not; but a spriest/elem shammy/oomkin will |
| 11:57.25 | Skellum | If Its going to be designed for use as a DPS caster item it would have been made a staff. |
| 11:57.29 | nevcairiel | healers don't necessarily need the cutting edge gear |
| 11:57.40 | Grum | actually; dps uses 1h+oh |
| 11:57.44 | Grum | for the reason i gives more |
| 11:57.46 | Skellum | Not always. |
| 11:57.47 | Grum | most healers use staffs |
| 11:57.51 | Skellum | Not always. |
| 11:58.00 | Grum | because they give either massive spirit or massive mp5 and int |
| 11:58.02 | Skellum | Ie. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40395 (Torch of Holy Fire) Seen it before? |
| 11:58.08 | Grum | yes i have it as spriest |
| 11:58.10 | Skellum | Or the MH off illidan |
| 11:58.13 | Grum | completely rightfully so |
| 11:58.13 | Skellum | Or the MH off KJ |
| 11:58.23 | Grum | MH of illidan is healing because of the proc - but only because of that |
| 11:58.27 | nevcairiel | Illidan and KJ are different, thats before Spellpower |
| 11:58.32 | nevcairiel | it was pure healing |
| 11:58.33 | Skellum | And even after SP. |
| 11:58.55 | Grum | Torch of holy fire is as much healing as dps with the current sharing of stats |
| 11:58.58 | nevcairiel | Also, stop making general assertions on your personal opinion, that doesn't get you far :) |
| 11:59.11 | Skellum | Not when you're both making them back. |
| 11:59.23 | Skellum | I'm making assertations that will be vindicated and assured in the coming month or so. |
| 11:59.33 | Grum | it will depend on the proc |
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| 11:59.44 | Grum | if the proc is healing based it will be a healing legendary |
| 11:59.50 | Skellum | Its why I'm not really getting worked up over it, I will be correct in the end. And those arent letters Next96. |
| 11:59.52 | nevcairiel | You say that healers should be preferred for the kelthuzad mace |
| 11:59.53 | nevcairiel | which is just false |
| 11:59.59 | nevcairiel | its a perfectly good mace for dps too |
| 11:59.59 | Grum | if there is no proc - it is healing *AND* dps |
| 12:00.01 | Skellum | Explain. |
| 12:00.07 | Skellum | Why it should not be preferred for them |
| 12:00.13 | nevcairiel | Why should it? |
| 12:00.14 | Grum | why would it be preferred? |
| 12:00.28 | nevcairiel | Its the best 1h weapon for spriests, for example |
| 12:00.29 | Skellum | I never said they couldnt use it, and that it isnt very good for them. But there are plenty of other items that are good and not the healer best in slot |
| 12:00.30 | Grum | its the best item in slot for the class |
| 12:00.39 | Grum | actually not Skellum |
| 12:00.54 | Grum | and your blunt ignorance of that fact just means you have no clue whatsoever |
| 12:00.56 | Skellum | Elaborate |
| 12:01.07 | Skellum | Or dont use condesntion and name calling to back up a weak argument. |
| 12:01.16 | Skellum | Its a sign of failure when you have to begin stooping to it |
| 12:01.22 | nevcairiel | Only because it has some mp5 doesnt make it a default healer weapon |
| 12:01.24 | Grum | its best in slot for spriest/elemshammy/oomkin/resto druid/holy priest/disc priest/resto shaman |
| 12:01.32 | Grum | oh and holy paladin |
| 12:01.46 | Skellum | Incorrect. |
| 12:01.50 | qwesto | I like The Turning Tide better as a holy pally :) |
| 12:01.55 | Skellum | The BIS for the holy pally in WoTLK is Turning tide |
| 12:02.05 | Grum | qwesto: oh i forgot you can use swords; my bad |
| 12:02.10 | Skellum | Not that we would give one a Turning Tide over a DPS caster. |
| 12:02.19 | Grum | why not? |
| 12:02.23 | [Ammo] | we do |
| 12:02.23 | Grum | best in slot is best in slot |
| 12:02.25 | Skellum | Because its a DPS weapon. |
| 12:02.29 | nevcairiel | Its not. |
| 12:02.33 | Skellum | Is so. |
| 12:02.34 | quiescens | because healers don't deserve gear |
| 12:02.36 | quiescens | duh |
| 12:02.36 | nevcairiel | Its a spellpower weapon. |
| 12:02.42 | Skellum | And? |
| 12:02.43 | Grum | spellpower is used by healers an dps |
| 12:02.46 | quiescens | everyone knows its best to make the healers work harder than the dps |
| 12:02.46 | Grum | live with it :) |
| 12:02.47 | selckin | whoever bids more dkp wins. |
| 12:02.49 | [Ammo] | better in the hands of a holy pala than a mage that does 0 dps :p |
| 12:02.53 | Skellum | Whats DKP? |
| 12:03.00 | Grum | Skellum: bye |
| 12:03.05 | Grum | ammo: would you do the honors? |
| 12:03.26 | Skellum | Ammo, you're saying the mage dies all the time? |
| 12:03.26 | nevcairiel | Unless a weapon has "hit", its not classified as a "DPS" Weapon in any case. |
| 12:03.26 | quiescens | that's the name of the game, everyone always prefers to make things harder for healers~ |
| 12:03.44 | [Ammo] | I'm saying mages need a buff, because they are shafted atm, so I'd rather see the weapon in the hands of a holy pala or a warlock |
| 12:03.48 | nevcairiel | Swords are for hurting people, thus a sword is a dps weapon? :) |
| 12:03.50 | Skellum | Our RL is a healer Quiescens, you dont give what is clearly a DPS item to a Healer and what is clearly a Healer item to a DPS. |
| 12:04.07 | Grum | Skellum: only an item with +hit is a clear dps weapon |
| 12:04.14 | [Ammo] | it is a mage/warlock/paladin weapon |
| 12:04.18 | Skellum | Ammo, I'm unsure of how mages are atm. I see them doing well, but the mages our guild has have always been incompetent. |
| 12:04.19 | Grum | and an item with a proc which works only on +healing is a healign weapon atm |
| 12:04.29 | Skellum | Whats up with them atm, what changed with frostfire? |
| 12:04.30 | Twisted-Transist | well what is "clearly" 1 class/spec item and what isnt is up 4 debate |
| 12:04.39 | Skellum | Grum you keep spouting the same babble without backing it up with proof. |
| 12:04.43 | Twisted-Transist | like there was a "clearly" hunter bow that went 2 a rogue |
| 12:04.57 | [Ammo] | Skellum: if your holy paladins don't see that weapon as the best in the slot they need a good looking over. |
| 12:05.03 | Grum | Skellum: what proof do you need more than that sites calculate 'your so called healing weapons' best in slot for dps? |
| 12:05.07 | [Ammo] | and best in slot = best in slot, which makes it a mage/warlock/paladin weapon |
| 12:05.08 | Fisker- | imma ragin |
| 12:05.13 | Skellum | Ammo, all of ours Rerolled in WoTLK |
| 12:05.15 | nevcairiel | Skellum: its the best in slot for Paladins, your reasoning before was that holy-fire is best in slot for other healers, so they get it .. but why not get paladins the sword now? YOu don't make sense! |
| 12:05.18 | Skellum | Would kill for a new one. |
| 12:05.37 | Skellum | I guess Brut just wore them down |
| 12:05.45 | Grum | yes because brut was so hard o.O |
| 12:05.53 | Skellum | No, just not fun. |
| 12:05.57 | Skellum | M'uru was the one who sucked. |
| 12:06.00 | Grum | it was excellent fun? |
| 12:06.04 | selckin | sunwell made me never want to heal again (and we cleared it all pre nerf) |
| 12:06.06 | nevcairiel | Sunwell was mighty fun |
| 12:06.15 | nevcairiel | and i was a healer, and still am! |
| 12:06.16 | Skellum | I turned off my ToT and just stared at omen as I spammed sbolts. |
| 12:06.21 | Skellum | Class nev? |
| 12:06.25 | nevcairiel | druid |
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| 12:06.33 | Skellum | So...lifebloom? |
| 12:06.34 | Grum | Skellum: awww you are the one-button-class |
| 12:06.48 | Skellum | Incorrect. |
| 12:06.51 | Grum | did you switch to a spec which needed a bit more than a single button already? affliction orso? ;) |
| 12:07.02 | Skellum | I've always been a warlock. |
| 12:07.12 | Skellum | Affliction is very fun |
| 12:07.19 | Skellum | Though I miss being able to watch a movie while I raid. |
| 12:07.27 | Grum | sigh |
| 12:07.30 | nevcairiel | I would kick anyone that even says that .) |
| 12:07.34 | Grum | same |
| 12:07.41 | Skellum | I bought a second monitor for Sunwell just because of how trivial beign a lock back then was |
| 12:07.57 | Grum | it still is |
| 12:08.01 | Skellum | Able to top the meters without effort....the only issue was when to consume your mana pots, drums and consumables. |
| 12:08.08 | Grum | lock has 2 trees which are terribly simple yet |
| 12:08.09 | Skellum | Its far more work then it was. |
| 12:08.14 | Skellum | Err no. |
| 12:08.23 | Skellum | The lock class atm has the most complex DPS rotations of any class. |
| 12:08.30 | Skellum | Except of course 0/41/30. |
| 12:08.32 | Grum | actually only affliction has |
| 12:08.37 | Skellum | Which you shouldnt really be playing |
| 12:08.48 | Sliker_Hawk | affliction = "the lock class" |
| 12:08.48 | Skellum | They took out the need for it when they fixed SE |
| 12:09.01 | Skellum | If you're not playing the best spec for your job you're doin it wrong. |
| 12:09.08 | Grum | and affliction gets 'nerfed' down to what spriests do :) |
| 12:09.26 | Twisted-Transist | depending on what we are fighting |
| 12:09.29 | Twisted-Transist | i can top meters |
| 12:09.33 | Twisted-Transist | or be middle of the pack |
| 12:09.34 | Skellum | So it seems atm. I'm thinking either they will fix things properly, or something in demo will be broken properly. |
| 12:09.46 | quiescens | paladin prot looks funny with just the one talent in 1st tier |
| 12:09.47 | Twisted-Transist | for OS i smash meters with all the AOE there is to be done |
| 12:09.50 | quiescens | lol |
| 12:10.02 | Skellum | But then again, 3.1 is a very major patch. I'm certain things will change to where they should be by the time its ready |
| 12:10.04 | Grum | Twisted-Transist: what aoe are you taking about? |
| 12:10.05 | Twisted-Transist | but naxx and eoe pretty ordanary |
| 12:10.16 | Twisted-Transist | mind searing all the adds |
| 12:10.17 | Skellum | Whelps, Spawns etc. |
| 12:10.17 | Grum | the single wave of small whelplings? |
| 12:10.36 | Twisted-Transist | atm we are trying for +3d |
| 12:10.43 | Twisted-Transist | so lots of adds everywhere |
| 12:10.44 | Grum | that is what i say: single wave of small adds |
| 12:10.45 | nevcairiel | yeah more then one wave == change tacticts :) |
| 12:10.50 | Grum | indeed |
| 12:11.01 | Skellum | How far have you gotton twisted? |
| 12:11.08 | Grum | next to that - the tank tanking the tiny fires will kill them on itself |
| 12:11.12 | Skellum | And what healers are you using ? |
| 12:11.15 | Grum | provided he isnt stupid enough to drag them through a wall of fire |
| 12:11.27 | nevcairiel | Sometimes they just spawn silly |
| 12:11.30 | Grum | true |
| 12:11.37 | nevcairiel | we have a rogue run around and dispel them if thats the case |
| 12:11.47 | Skellum | Hunters a bit nicer for it |
| 12:11.56 | Twisted-Transist | atm its either fail after the 2nd drake has landed |
| 12:12.06 | nevcairiel | we lack hunters atm <.< |
| 12:12.09 | Skellum | When the acolyte has gone in? |
| 12:12.14 | Grum | Twisted-Transist: second drake lands he first one has to be <20% |
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| 12:12.25 | nevcairiel | best would be dead .) |
| 12:12.25 | Grum | ideally just dying tbh |
| 12:12.29 | Twisted-Transist | or the 3rd drake has landed and then shit happens |
| 12:12.29 | Grum | yeah |
| 12:12.40 | Grum | 2+3 is the worst pain ever :) |
| 12:12.43 | nevcairiel | yeah 3rd landign is usually the hardest part |
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| 12:12.47 | Skellum | 2nd drake down means your life is a lot easier |
| 12:12.48 | nevcairiel | once you get 2nd down, all is good |
| 12:12.51 | Grum | yup |
| 12:12.53 | Skellum | But still in danger until that scion is down |
| 12:12.59 | Grum | disciple you mean |
| 12:13.02 | Twisted-Transist | yeah we dont get the 2nd down |
| 12:13.07 | Skellum | Scion, disciple, acolyte. |
| 12:13.09 | Skellum | Meh |
| 12:13.16 | End | Cylon |
| 12:13.19 | Twisted-Transist | we are still in that change over of finishing 2nd |
| 12:13.21 | Skellum | :O |
| 12:13.22 | Grum | 'thing in other realm' :p |
| 12:13.25 | Skellum | Robot Dragons? |
| 12:13.31 | Skellum | With red eye slits?!? |
| 12:13.35 | sb|work | wtf missed that healer vs. dps discussion :p |
| 12:13.44 | Grum | be happy |
| 12:13.46 | Grum | it was pointless |
| 12:14.03 | Skellum | Yup, it made grum have a little fit and beg for bans |
| 12:14.13 | Grum | not bans actually |
| 12:14.19 | Skellum | Yup, it made grum have a little fit and beg for bans |
| 12:14.19 | Twisted-Transist | does the rogues remove rage poison (we actually had to send out rogue back to dala to get it) work with fan of knives for aoe anti rage? |
| 12:14.25 | Skellum | Yea |
| 12:14.35 | nevcairiel | Twisted-Transist: yeah it does |
| 12:14.41 | Skellum | I still think a hunter would be a bit better, cover the replin+Tranq |
| 12:14.44 | sb|work | oh cool |
| 12:14.44 | Twisted-Transist | bad rogue is bad |
| 12:14.44 | End | you didn't have someone with a mammoth? 8-) |
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| 12:14.58 | sb|work | so i need to go home now :p |
| 12:15.06 | Twisted-Transist | im not sure if rogues are use to having to do anything other then dps |
| 12:15.11 | Grum | End: nowai mammoths are expensive >< |
| 12:15.15 | End | lies |
| 12:15.25 | Skellum | I still need about 21 mounts |
| 12:15.26 | Grum | indeed; 16k is pocketmoney :P |
| 12:15.31 | End | yup |
| 12:15.32 | Skellum | 3.1 should really be loaded with them |
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| 12:17.06 | Grum | i might actually have to look at my talents again for 3.1 ... life is so utterly boring for a spriest >< |
| 12:17.28 | Twisted-Transist | im enjoying spriest |
| 12:17.31 | Twisted-Transist | i was enh shaman |
| 12:17.36 | nevcairiel | didnt they revamp the whole priest or something? the changelog for them was so logn =P |
| 12:17.43 | Twisted-Transist | that was so emo i couldnt handle it any more |
| 12:17.52 | Grum | the healy side nevcairiel |
| 12:17.52 | Skellum | Lock/Prot Pally/Unholy DK/ ChinafarmerDruid |
| 12:18.26 | Grum | spriests havent changed much since 2.4 sadly |
| 12:18.30 | Grum | we just do more dps and mf can crit |
| 12:18.45 | nevcairiel | I like how they can make DoTs crit now |
| 12:18.52 | Grum | yeah |
| 12:18.52 | Twisted-Transist | enh shaman/tank warrior/spriest/tank druid/fmage/retpally |
| 12:18.54 | nevcairiel | Ferals got a talent to allow their bleed effects to crit .) |
| 12:18.58 | Grum | but we have to see how good that works |
| 12:19.15 | Grum | i sortof dislike the RNG factor of crits though |
| 12:20.26 | quiescens | I don't know about the placement of the druid talent thingy for that |
| 12:20.27 | Grum | but mostly i dislike that i have to watch my total spelldmg to find the 'peak moment' to reapply my swp |
| 12:20.41 | quiescens | it requires 5 points in the tier |
| 12:20.43 | quiescens | that it's in |
| 12:20.58 | quiescens | so you have to put 6 points into that tier |
| 12:21.30 | Twisted-Transist | atm i am likeing some of the changes that wrath has brought |
| 12:21.37 | Twisted-Transist | a lot more boomkins around |
| 12:21.38 | quiescens | most tiers that have more than 5 points worth, you have to choose, say, between two talents within that tier to get the one that you want |
| 12:21.52 | quiescens | but with that druid talent, the prereq for one of the talents is 5 points in the other |
| 12:22.36 | Twisted-Transist | but sadly to many ret and dps dk's |
| 12:22.53 | Twisted-Transist | locks, hunters and rogues which were everywhere BC you cant find them |
| 12:23.04 | Twisted-Transist | and other class that werent around much have all but gone |
| 12:23.05 | quiescens | still plenty of rogues |
| 12:23.13 | quiescens | or rather |
| 12:23.14 | Twisted-Transist | try finding a shaman or priest |
| 12:23.19 | quiescens | still a lot of people playing a rogue |
| 12:23.31 | Twisted-Transist | mages are a little more plentafull |
| 12:23.32 | quiescens | warriors have gotten rarer |
| 12:23.52 | Twisted-Transist | lots of dps warriors around |
| 12:23.59 | Twisted-Transist | even a lot of tank warriors |
| 12:24.11 | Twisted-Transist | but not so many tank druids |
| 12:24.16 | End | 3 of our 4 regular tanks are warriors :o |
| 12:24.23 | Twisted-Transist | and tank dk's just tend to be bad players |
| 12:24.31 | Twisted-Transist | we have 1 tank warrior |
| 12:24.39 | Twisted-Transist | but 3 or so dps warriors |
| 12:25.08 | quiescens | all tanks are paladins |
| 12:25.10 | quiescens | lol |
| 12:25.13 | Twisted-Transist | our shaman's have all gone some where so we are raiding a lot without them and there mail gear is all going 4 offspec |
| 12:25.13 | quiescens | and the occasional dk |
| 12:25.27 | Twisted-Transist | yeah pally tanks are everywhere |
| 12:25.48 | Twisted-Transist | i know blizzard has commented along the lines that warriors are harder 2 tank with |
| 12:26.08 | quiescens | they don't seem that bad |
| 12:26.51 | Twisted-Transist | i like tanking |
| 12:27.00 | Twisted-Transist | but if things go out of control |
| 12:27.07 | Twisted-Transist | i find it hard to get mobs back |
| 12:27.17 | Twisted-Transist | vs say a dk or pally who just aoe's and keeps going |
| 12:27.41 | quiescens | a dk can have some issue picking up new mobs if they spawn constantly |
| 12:28.25 | quiescens | depending on whether they have a mob to put diseases on |
| 12:28.30 | Twisted-Transist | death grip seems really good 4 protecting the healer |
| 12:28.39 | quiescens | most things are immune to it really |
| 12:28.44 | quiescens | or rather |
| 12:28.48 | Twisted-Transist | as a warrior i have intervean which works hardly ever |
| 12:28.49 | quiescens | immune to the forced movement effect |
| 12:29.13 | Twisted-Transist | so many times i get target is out of range or your to close or just dont seem to work |
| 12:30.17 | nevcairiel | interven was fine in BC, i havent played my warrior since |
| 12:30.18 | quiescens | swipe has the nice benefit of having no cooldown which is convenient if new mobs appear |
| 12:30.36 | quiescens | consecrate can be an issue if the new mobs appear in an area far away from your existing consecrate |
| 12:30.59 | Twisted-Transist | my pally just hit 20 2day so just got that yet 2 test it out |
| 12:31.29 | Twisted-Transist | brought the dps trinket and shoulders |
| 12:31.43 | Twisted-Transist | so hopefully i can past them around a few alts |
| 12:31.55 | Skellum | DK+Paladin and warrior seem to be moving into an EQ like relation. |
| 12:32.03 | Skellum | Warrior threat is less that then the DK and paladin. |
| 12:32.20 | Skellum | Mitigation overall is a bit better in all areas, but in most cases the pally/dk do just fine |
| 12:32.26 | Twisted-Transist | i never played EQ so idk what that means but yes i dont seem to make the theat that a pally does |
| 12:34.15 | quiescens | I had heard warrior single target threat was pretty reasonable |
| 12:34.26 | Twisted-Transist | i dont have a problem single target |
| 12:34.27 | quiescens | and paladins being ahead of the rest (on live) |
| 12:34.49 | Twisted-Transist | but aoe is a little harder with dps these days not worrying about aggro |
| 12:35.44 | quiescens | DPS is getting a little careless about how much harder it is for a tank to pick up loose mobs, than it is to hold mobs if they're already attacking the tank |
| 12:36.00 | Twisted-Transist | glyph of devasate is a must really |
| 12:36.05 | Twisted-Transist | i do agree with that |
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| 12:36.28 | Twisted-Transist | when i play i always press f2 then f (targets party leader and focus's 2 their target) |
| 12:36.46 | Twisted-Transist | dps these days dont seem to know what the tank is attackig (that is what they say) |
| 12:36.55 | Twisted-Transist | so they just unload on what ever they want |
| 12:37.24 | Twisted-Transist | then you spend the next 2mins charging back and forth picking up mobs |
| 12:37.43 | quiescens | the best is when one of the dps pull aggro on one mob and you go to get it back |
| 12:37.54 | quiescens | and while you're doing that, someone pulls aggro on the other mobs |
| 12:38.28 | quiescens | do you pick up some of the damage stuff to help? |
| 12:38.44 | Twisted-Transist | i tend to find that i charge into the range mob and melee it so it doesnt sit back and just range me then a melee mob runs of i go and grab it and that the range mob i was melee is now free to range me |
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| 12:38.53 | Twisted-Transist | yeah |
| 12:39.25 | Twisted-Transist | i dropped vigilance (i got told once how can you not have vigilance) and picked up deepwounds (very nice for aoe tanking) |
| 12:39.48 | quiescens | how much block value do you have and how much does thunderclap hit for these days |
| 12:39.54 | quiescens | I haven't seen enough warrior tanks |
| 12:40.05 | quiescens | vigilance sounds good, what's so wrong with it? |
| 12:40.33 | Twisted-Transist | i find its weak |
| 12:40.40 | End | you've never tanked for me then :D |
| 12:40.44 | Twisted-Transist | i would link you my armoury but i logged out in dps gear |
| 12:40.50 | quiescens | the way I see it, if someone is above the rest of the dps, it gives you around 20% extra leeway with that person, and it gives 10% leeway on the others |
| 12:40.58 | quiescens | you don't remember the numbers I take it |
| 12:40.58 | quiescens | lol |
| 12:41.05 | quiescens | how much does thunderclap hit for roughly |
| 12:41.17 | Twisted-Transist | i dont remeber how much TC hits 4 |
| 12:41.46 | Twisted-Transist | but with vigilance i place it on healer because they are pulling aoe threat |
| 12:42.04 | Twisted-Transist | and mobs still run 2 healer and attack it |
| 12:42.14 | Twisted-Transist | so i dropped it 2 pick up more aggro overall |
| 12:43.33 | quiescens | mm |
| 12:43.33 | Twisted-Transist | if i could spare 1 more point i would probably grab it but i dont feel i lost anything by not getting it |
| 12:44.59 | Twisted-Transist | mind you i only get 2 tank heroics and the odd VOA or OS |
| 12:45.13 | quiescens | healing threat shouldn't be a significant issue though |
| 12:45.14 | Twisted-Transist | i raid as spriest and the guild has no more room 4 tanks |
| 12:45.27 | Twisted-Transist | it shouldnt b |
| 12:45.29 | quiescens | since it divides by the number of mobs, rather than just doing the threat to everything |
| 12:45.50 | Pneumatus | Val'anyr, Gavel of Ancient Kings sounds like a healer mace :o |
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| 12:46.05 | End | Yeah, healers tend to pick up threat on mob spawn |
| 12:46.11 | Twisted-Transist | ^ |
| 12:46.23 | End | s/threat/adds/ |
| 12:46.24 | Twisted-Transist | i find the gauntlet in UP trying sometimes |
| 12:46.52 | Twisted-Transist | mayb i shouldnt take squishys any more |
| 12:46.54 | quiescens | The gauntlet is annoying at times especially because they saw fit to make 2/3rds of the mobs ranged |
| 12:47.00 | End | ^ |
| 12:47.21 | Twisted-Transist | ^^ |
| 12:47.41 | quiescens | how are you specced anyway? |
| 12:47.48 | quiescens | I don't know what warrior builds look like |
| 12:50.12 | Twisted-Transist | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Jubei%27Thos&n=Cowodeath |
| 12:50.22 | Twisted-Transist | dont look at the gear im in my dps gear |
| 12:50.36 | Twisted-Transist | trying to work on dps gear for duel speccing |
| 12:50.43 | Twisted-Transist | the its pewpew fury time |
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| 13:08.33 | quiescens | high powered flashlight~ |
| 13:08.34 | quiescens | lol |
| 13:09.34 | Megalon | yea, engi getting another useless item |
| 13:09.35 | Megalon | :( |
| 13:09.44 | Skellum | why are there still engineers? |
| 13:09.49 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle 04v1.0-beta-3 * r23 : Tagging as v1.0-beta-3 |
| 13:09.58 | quiescens | its a low level item, and its not engineer only |
| 13:10.02 | quiescens | which is neat I guess |
| 13:10.09 | Megalon | oh |
| 13:10.23 | Megalon | thought engi only, well then it has at least some use for twinks |
| 13:10.28 | Fisker- | nice |
| 13:10.35 | Fisker- | the gear manager also shows stuff :O |
| 13:10.47 | quiescens | I don't know why they added an elixir of minor accuracy |
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| 13:11.15 | quiescens | I guess if your level 15 character needs a bit of hit rating against some level 18 mobs you're raiding or something |
| 13:11.46 | Fisker- | i lol'd |
| 13:14.32 | Skellum | ugh |
| 13:14.38 | Skellum | This lock simplification crap hurts |
| 13:14.59 | quiescens | yay for swimming mounts |
| 13:15.11 | Pneumatus | soloing elites |
| 13:15.18 | Pneumatus | not that there are many left |
| 13:16.11 | quiescens | if you were to say, not have upgraded to bc, would max level then be 60 and allow you to buy the secondary spec |
| 13:16.11 | Twisted-Transist | i would love a bit more hit lvl'ing |
| 13:16.14 | quiescens | lol |
| 13:16.18 | Hirsute-Home | Skellum: Lock simplification? |
| 13:17.58 | sb|work | quiescens: so you have trial account and get dualspec with level 20? :p |
| 13:18.18 | quiescens | hard to get 1000g on a trial account |
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| 13:18.53 | quiescens | run awai! |
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| 13:19.24 | Hirsute-Home | quiescens: Not really, not if you're good a playing the AH anyway. |
| 13:20.14 | Twisted-Transist | wow some of these spriest changes r nice |
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| 13:20.25 | Hirsute-Home | Hrmmm. Maybe not, you wouldn't be able to DE things, or have them DEd, and that's the easiest way I've found to build up money fast. Carryon. |
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| 13:21.19 | Twisted-Transist | Bloodlust and Heroism now puts a debuff on you preventing you from using gaining the benefits of them for 10 mins. They now have a 5 min cooldown. (Previously had a 5 min debuff with a 10 min cooldown) |
| 13:21.22 | Twisted-Transist | that hurts hard |
| 13:21.38 | nevcairiel | not that much |
| 13:21.43 | End | I think it's to devalue shaman in 10 mans mostly |
| 13:22.00 | Twisted-Transist | on most fights you can get 1 bl off |
| 13:22.02 | nevcairiel | You rarely had a fight that could use 2 heroisms properly anyway |
| 13:22.07 | Twisted-Transist | some fights 2 can be used |
| 13:22.12 | Skellum | No soulshard changes in game yet |
| 13:22.13 | Twisted-Transist | now its going 2 b 1 |
| 13:22.26 | quiescens | am I right in saying the Primal Gore talent at the high end up the druid feral tree is the only talent that *requires* 6 points in a single tier in order to get? |
| 13:22.29 | End | we haven't seen ulduar yet ;-) |
| 13:22.46 | quiescens | I can't think of any other talent that requires 5 points in a tier, to get another talent in the same tier |
| 13:23.44 | Twisted-Transist | *New Talent* Frozen Power, Tier 6, 2 point talent - Increases the damage done by your Frostbrand Weapon if it is enchanted on your main-hand weapon by 10/20%, and your Frost Shock has a 50/100% chance to root the target in Ice for 5 sec. when used on targets at or further than 15 yards from you. |
| 13:24.15 | Twisted-Transist | iirc shocks r 20yards |
| 13:24.24 | Twisted-Transist | so you more or less have to use that at max range |
| 13:24.25 | sb|work | 2 bloodlust in 1 fight is DPS fail anyways :p |
| 13:24.30 | nevcairiel | Its kinda funny how people get worked up about the first look at the changes, considering that everything can, and probably will, change completly .) |
| 13:24.53 | quiescens | twisted: that's the intention |
| 13:24.57 | quiescens | its in enhancement, not elemental |
| 13:24.58 | Twisted-Transist | yeah but if you dont express your concerns or opinions b4 hand |
| 13:24.59 | pentium166 | what is that frostbrand/shock talent from? ptr? |
| 13:25.14 | sb|work | sorry, ptr doesnt run on pentium166 :/ |
| 13:25.31 | sb|work | but yes, it is :p |
| 13:26.20 | Twisted-Transist | Devouring Plague: This spell now has a new icon. |
| 13:26.34 | Twisted-Transist | hey thats the pvp buff they gave enh shaman |
| 13:26.35 | End | quiescens: hm, that is weird |
| 13:26.54 | End | it'd be the SAME thing if they put primal gore in the next row down |
| 13:27.13 | nevcairiel | They want it deep down |
| 13:27.13 | quiescens | they may as well have |
| 13:27.23 | End | yes, but it's a 51 point talent |
| 13:27.27 | quiescens | you can't technically get it without at least 50 points already |
| 13:27.30 | End | but it doesn't LOOK like a 51 point talent |
| 13:27.41 | End | feral druids have two 51 point talents again ;-) |
| 13:27.50 | End | er well |
| 13:27.52 | nevcairiel | to not get the other classes jealous! |
| 13:27.52 | pentium166 | the frostbrand thing seems like the buff/nerf that shamans always talk about |
| 13:27.54 | End | it was 31 before :P |
| 13:28.14 | nevcairiel | the talent probably is pretty good |
| 13:28.14 | End | I'm sure someone will point it out on the forums, and I'm sure noone will notice |
| 13:28.31 | pentium166 | gain a ranged root (that's difficult to use even!) but give up already weak RNG burst |
| 13:28.40 | quiescens | er |
| 13:28.51 | End | yeah, but I think multiple 51 point talents goes against current talent design (but feral doesn't fit talent design that well I guess) |
| 13:28.57 | pentium166 | unless the root works without mainhand frostbrand |
| 13:29.03 | quiescens | yeah |
| 13:29.16 | quiescens | wording seems more indicative of only the damage being based on frostbrand |
| 13:29.54 | nevcairiel | Hm MSBT is broken on PTR =( |
| 13:30.03 | pentium166 | i want to see if it has anything to survive being jumped by a rogue. |
| 13:30.06 | Twisted-Transist | New Advanced features for quest tracking are now available. Players will need to activate this option within the Interface panel. |
| 13:30.11 | Twisted-Transist | what does that mean? |
| 13:30.20 | sb|work | meh |
| 13:30.27 | End | I'm not sure |
| 13:30.28 | End | but |
| 13:30.29 | sb|work | patch not on wowcompares :/ |
| 13:30.35 | pentium166 | your quests now bounce around when you complete an objective! |
| 13:30.36 | End | they redid the achievement/quest tracker |
| 13:30.42 | End | sb|work: wowcompares is always slow |
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| 13:30.55 | nevcairiel | sb|work: you should sign up for kd3's mailing list .) |
| 13:30.57 | SlikerHawk | .. Aaanyone know where the PTR installs to? I really can't find it |
| 13:31.01 | End | kd3's diff email imo. or look at Tekkub's git repo |
| 13:31.06 | sb|work | nevcairiel: whats kd3? :p |
| 13:31.09 | nevcairiel | a guy |
| 13:31.12 | sb|work | url?/ |
| 13:31.20 | nevcairiel | look at irc user list |
| 13:31.23 | pentium166 | last time i installed one it was program files\world of warcraft test realm, or something like that |
| 13:31.33 | sb|work | bah google returns "kde" for "kd3" |
| 13:31.36 | Twisted-Transist | is it going to be something that you will be able to see every quest you have done? |
| 13:31.38 | sb|work | damn l33tspeak :/ |
| 13:31.38 | quiescens | lol |
| 13:31.52 | nevcairiel | I believe mine wanted to install in C:\Users\Public\Games\World Of Warcraft Public Test |
| 13:31.57 | nevcairiel | on vista, that is. |
| 13:32.31 | nevcairiel | sb|work: you wont find any web page, just talk to him to put you on the list for next diff =P |
| 13:32.32 | SlikerHawk | It's in neither of those places |
| 13:32.42 | Twisted-Transist | from what i have read installing anyting into the public folder is bad security wise |
| 13:32.52 | End | yeah just send him a PM |
| 13:32.56 | End | and he'll add you |
| 13:33.13 | pentium166 | did it install into your firefox directory or something? :p |
| 13:33.16 | SlikerHawk | I also started the task manager while it was running, clicked open file directory on wow.exe and nothing happened |
| 13:33.23 | SlikerHawk | Maaybe |
| 13:33.28 | nevcairiel | sb|work: also http://nevcairiel.net/3.0.9.9551-0.1.0.9614.zip |
| 13:33.35 | End | cheater |
| 13:33.38 | sb|work | thank you |
| 13:33.49 | quiescens | I suppose I should actually download this particular ptr |
| 13:33.51 | Twisted-Transist | Old Naxxramas Shoulder Enchants will now soulbind items. spelling mistake?? |
| 13:34.09 | quiescens | where? |
| 13:34.10 | nevcairiel | whats supposed to be wrong there? |
| 13:34.14 | sb|work | nevcairiel: and how to get on that list? :) |
| 13:34.25 | nevcairiel | sb|work: send him a PM on irc :P |
| 13:34.32 | nevcairiel | with your email preferrably |
| 13:34.34 | sb|work | oh okay |
| 13:34.42 | sb|work | so no web-based subscription stuff or something like that |
| 13:34.47 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 13:35.23 | nevcairiel | He just extract the framexml, runs a diff, and mails it around |
| 13:35.35 | Twisted-Transist | shouldnt it be soulbound items instead of soulbind |
| 13:35.46 | nevcairiel | soublind is the verb |
| 13:35.54 | nevcairiel | soulbinds Twisted-Transist to his chair |
| 13:36.12 | Twisted-Transist | ooo now your turning me on |
| 13:36.40 | sb|work | ./me adds Fisker- to that chair |
| 13:38.53 | quiescens | mm |
| 13:39.23 | quiescens | anyone have a link to the ptr client downloaderer |
| 13:39.25 | SlikerHawk | ooh, it installed into windows.old\users\public.. |
| 13:40.14 | sb|work | oh |
| 13:40.17 | sb|work | talent preview function |
| 13:40.32 | quiescens | what does that do? |
| 13:40.45 | quiescens | is it essentially an ingame version of a talent calculator |
| 13:40.46 | quiescens | lol |
| 13:40.57 | nevcairiel | Allows you to build a talent spec without actually learning it |
| 13:40.59 | renchap | talented-like ? |
| 13:41.06 | nevcairiel | you click a "Learn" button when you're done |
| 13:41.10 | quiescens | aka "yes" |
| 13:41.33 | Hirsute-Home | So nice for those times when I accidentally put a point in something I don't really want. |
| 13:41.54 | SlikerHawk | And high pings |
| 13:42.14 | Skellum | Alright, I do the same DPS as the felguard lock spec as I do with the new affliction |
| 13:42.27 | Skellum | A little bit more on the lolguard, and I have no lolguard glyphs for the spec |
| 13:42.50 | sb|work | so dps buff for other warlock specs than affliction? |
| 13:42.54 | Skellum | No |
| 13:42.58 | Skellum | Just a nerf to affliction |
| 13:43.02 | sb|work | oh %-) |
| 13:43.13 | Skellum | None of the talents I picked up were new |
| 13:43.32 | Skellum | 18 seconds off demonic empowerment vs 20% immolate damage or 2% crit |
| 13:44.00 | Skellum | I'm not able to test the 35% soulburn thing, so I would immagine Demo damage would only be higher |
| 13:44.59 | sb|work | and crit-dots? |
| 13:45.09 | quiescens | hah |
| 13:45.15 | quiescens | upgrades to the dalaran rings |
| 13:45.26 | sb|work | oh? |
| 13:45.34 | nevcairiel | for 8k gold again? |
| 13:45.45 | quiescens | nah, apparantly its existing ring + 1k |
| 13:45.47 | Pneumatus | linky gogo |
| 13:45.55 | End | neat |
| 13:46.00 | quiescens | http://www.worldofraids.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=4410&c=7 |
| 13:46.09 | Skellum | Sb, the #s are sayign the crit dots are a nerf |
| 13:46.24 | End | what's the crit modifier? |
| 13:46.28 | End | 100% or 50%? |
| 13:46.44 | Skellum | 50% for affliction spells |
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| 13:46.48 | End | hm |
| 13:46.48 | Skellum | Bane only affects destro |
| 13:46.56 | End | yeah |
| 13:47.00 | End | pandemic was 100% though |
| 13:47.04 | Skellum | So it used to be double damage on the UA/Corr, now its 50% |
| 13:47.10 | End | but pandemic also went from 3 points to 1 point |
| 13:47.12 | quiescens | heh |
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| 13:47.19 | End | still |
| 13:47.20 | Skellum | Yea but theres no where to put the points really |
| 13:47.29 | End | reduction in points only helps if ...yeah |
| 13:47.30 | Skellum | Nothing that makes up for 50% damage loss on crits |
| 13:47.33 | quiescens | "I can fulfill the role of: [ ]Damage [ ]Tank [ ]Healer |
| 13:47.34 | quiescens | " |
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| 13:47.38 | quiescens | in the lfg window |
| 13:47.52 | Skellum | WTB EQs LFG system |
| 13:48.00 | Repo | 10tinykos: 03profalbert 07master * v0.3-beta-2-gc4db5dd / (7 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 13:48.03 | Repo | c4db5dd: slashcommand now shows the configwindow |
| 13:48.07 | Repo | 43663af: zone-settings are applied at startup |
| 13:48.22 | Skellum | 1 Tab, LFG Class Race Level. Second tab, LFM, Group Leader, Name of the Instance they want |
| 13:48.59 | sb|work | wtf |
| 13:49.00 | sb|work | WTF |
| 13:49.01 | End | certainly seems like they're actually trying to make affliction scale worse with crit though. worse crit modifiers but better innate crit doesn't help the value of the crit stat any |
| 13:49.13 | sb|work | +JOYSTICK_BUTTONS["XBOX"]["JOYBUTTON1"] = { texture = "Interface\\Joystick\\Xbox-Button-A" }; |
| 13:49.15 | Skellum | End, MC in Demo? |
| 13:49.17 | sb|work | +JOYSTICK_BUTTONS["PLAYSTATION"]["JOYBUTTON1"] = { texture = "Interface\\Joystick\\Playstation-Button-T" }; |
| 13:49.27 | quiescens | uh ohs |
| 13:49.55 | End | I'm not sure why they moved MC |
| 13:49.59 | sb|work | so you can now bind actions to gamepads directly!? :o |
| 13:50.04 | quiescens | party member dots show up as their class colour |
| 13:50.14 | End | I was thinking of the imp SB and eradication changes though |
| 13:50.22 | End | (plus weakening pandemic's bonus) |
| 13:50.55 | Funkeh` | where are the notes |
| 13:50.55 | Skellum | Only the calming madness of dwarf fortress may sooth these wow pains |
| 13:51.54 | End | (tbh, I dunno how much crit gets devalued though) |
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| 13:53.06 | SlikerHawk | The hell are projected textures |
| 13:53.27 | pentium166 | why would they put in a talent that affects shocks, call it booming echoes, and then make it not affect earth or wind shock |
| 13:53.56 | Hirsute-Home | obfuscation ftw! |
| 13:56.39 | pentium166 | i think that is worth a forum post for having a dumb and misleading name |
| 13:57.09 | sb|work | oh |
| 13:57.12 | sb|work | no more instance-port |
| 13:57.24 | quiescens | ): |
| 13:57.27 | quiescens | what happens |
| 13:57.31 | sb|work | teleport message changed to "You will be teleported to the nearest graveyard in %d %s." |
| 13:57.50 | Nenue | oh thank god |
| 13:57.57 | kenlyric | 1day 20seconds |
| 13:58.26 | nevcairiel | what the hell, blizzard shows unit frames for your enemys in arenas now |
| 13:58.31 | End | yeah |
| 13:58.40 | End | we've had the arena1..5 units for a while now |
| 13:58.44 | nevcairiel | i know |
| 13:58.45 | End | well, since 3.0 |
| 13:58.46 | nevcairiel | but frames |
| 13:58.49 | End | yeah |
| 13:58.52 | nevcairiel | well i guess |
| 13:58.56 | nevcairiel | it makes it more fair |
| 13:59.09 | nevcairiel | tournaments play without any addons |
| 13:59.10 | nevcairiel | afaik |
| 13:59.15 | End | yeah |
| 13:59.18 | kenlyric | blizzard loves adding frames months after everyone has installed a mod to see them |
| 13:59.23 | Pneumatus | Insane in the Membrane FoS :o |
| 13:59.25 | kenlyric | oh, blessed focus frame |
| 13:59.42 | Pneumatus | the blizzard focus frame is terrible tho |
| 13:59.47 | sb|work | +REFUND_TIME_REMAINING = "Sell this item to a vendor within %s for a full refund"; |
| 13:59.50 | sb|work | hmmm |
| 13:59.58 | kenlyric | finally |
| 14:00.02 | End | bet that won't work on non-gold |
| 14:00.02 | quiescens | hah |
| 14:00.06 | Nenue | their development path inspires addon authors to do the engineering for them |
| 14:00.24 | nevcairiel | End: non-gold also has a confirmation popup |
| 14:00.30 | kenlyric | Pneumatus: all their frames are terrible |
| 14:00.32 | End | no |
| 14:00.33 | kenlyric | but at least they exist |
| 14:00.34 | End | not always |
| 14:00.46 | End | only seems to if it costs one of the item |
| 14:00.58 | End | so it works for tokens |
| 14:01.05 | End | er, tier gear |
| 14:01.08 | End | but not say, patterns |
| 14:01.09 | nevcairiel | well those are important :) |
| 14:01.28 | End | well, as a non-hybrid, it doesn't matter |
| 14:01.37 | nevcairiel | i'm a druid, i care! |
| 14:01.38 | End | I can only buy one thing anyway ;-) |
| 14:01.41 | End | pff |
| 14:02.03 | Pneumatus | have wowcompares got the framexml up? |
| 14:02.10 | nevcairiel | probably not |
| 14:02.21 | End | you should put your diff copy in the topic ;-) |
| 14:02.24 | nevcairiel | http://nevcairiel.net/3.0.9.9551-0.1.0.9614.zip use that and a diff browser :p |
| 14:02.29 | sb|work | +VIDEO_QUALITY_LABEL5 = "Ultra"; |
| 14:02.30 | sb|work | haha |
| 14:02.31 | sb|work | :) |
| 14:02.32 | Pneumatus | danke |
| 14:02.36 | sb|work | need moer hardware |
| 14:02.46 | nevcairiel | yeah they added a new config setting for ultra |
| 14:02.50 | nevcairiel | but i used those settings anyway |
| 14:02.54 | Funkeh` | is there no 3.1 patch notes |
| 14:03.06 | nevcairiel | You can set the ultra settings on live now already |
| 14:03.09 | nevcairiel | just use a macro .) |
| 14:03.13 | sb|work | oh :) |
| 14:03.24 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=40602.0 |
| 14:03.29 | Funkeh` | ty |
| 14:03.36 | quiescens | there is no spoon |
| 14:04.05 | nevcairiel | Be sure to read both logs, the one mmo-c created and the official one |
| 14:04.14 | Funkeh` | yey for tentacles |
| 14:04.16 | nevcairiel | for some reason the mmo-c one didnt pick up alot of changes |
| 14:04.27 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, wheres the official? since the us page isn't updated |
| 14:04.38 | nevcairiel | at the end of the forum post |
| 14:04.41 | nevcairiel | just read more :) |
| 14:04.44 | Funkeh` | lol laright |
| 14:04.49 | Funkeh` | alright* |
| 14:04.54 | nevcairiel | or http://blue.mmo-champion.com/13/8136495630-310-ptr-patch-notes.html |
| 14:04.59 | Funkeh` | yey for tentacles |
| 14:05.19 | Zyndrome | Cthun 2.0 |
| 14:05.34 | SlikerHawk | soo I'm currently spec'd 11/52/11. |
| 14:05.46 | Zyndrome | "Ygg-Saron takes a deep breath." |
| 14:06.03 | Pneumatus | hmm, the EU PTR downloader is still 3.0.1.8874? |
| 14:06.34 | Nenue | "the Raid Destroyer" |
| 14:07.01 | Skellum | with that many mouths..."Yogg-Saron takes a few deep breaths" |
| 14:07.26 | Funkeh` | oh cool closetgnome finally integrated |
| 14:08.11 | nevcairiel | Pneumatus: you need the 3.0.1 installer, then start the client, and it'll get the 3.1.0 patch |
| 14:08.18 | Pneumatus | aha |
| 14:08.33 | nevcairiel | or just use your 3.0.8 PTR if you still have it |
| 14:08.42 | Pneumatus | hmm |
| 14:08.44 | Pneumatus | i probably do |
| 14:08.48 | Pneumatus | would be easier to reinstall that |
| 14:09.31 | Funkeh` | A new Color Blind option is available under the Interface panel. |
| 14:09.37 | Funkeh` | I wonder if thats UI only or entire game |
| 14:09.46 | nevcairiel | ui |
| 14:09.55 | Funkeh` | meh I never had problems with ui |
| 14:09.57 | Arrowmaster | zoot did that, he came asking about the old mods that used to do it a while back |
| 14:10.02 | Funkeh` | sometimes certain herbs are a problems |
| 14:10.14 | nevcairiel | read text on tooltip? :) |
| 14:10.30 | Funkeh` | no I mean seeing them in the first place |
| 14:10.33 | SlikerHawk | I may well be spec'd 11/52/11 but now opening the talent window crashes the game. Woot. |
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| 14:10.39 | nevcairiel | it adds stuff to the tooltips like saying "Epic" below the item name |
| 14:10.44 | nevcairiel | if you cant recognize the color |
| 14:11.54 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, I'm talking about the color of the herb itself |
| 14:12.06 | Funkeh` | so that I can see it and actually hover over it |
| 14:12.40 | nevcairiel | Thats too much =p |
| 14:13.05 | Funkeh` | heh |
| 14:13.09 | Funkeh` | arenaui hmm |
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| 14:15.36 | Nenue | Does colorblind mode adjust lighting effects? |
| 14:16.11 | Funkeh` | if it's ui only, I highly doubt it |
| 14:16.31 | Funkeh` | but the things is there is a few types of colorblindness |
| 14:16.51 | Nenue | Because it's not a true colorblind mode if it doesn't use shaders to adjust visual contrast. |
| 14:16.57 | Funkeh` | so depending on which they chose the ui will probably be coloured more grey, more blue, etc |
| 14:17.24 | Funkeh` | well you could always ptr test =P |
| 14:17.55 | nevcairiel | the UI doesnt change in color at all |
| 14:18.07 | Nenue | the UI woldn' |
| 14:18.11 | Nenue | wouldn't be problematic |
| 14:18.14 | nevcairiel | Neither does the GFX |
| 14:18.24 | Nenue | it's environmental objects like colored portals |
| 14:18.33 | nevcairiel | It only adds some strings to UI elements that require you to see the color to understand it |
| 14:18.35 | nevcairiel | like item quality |
| 14:18.55 | Nenue | instead of fluctuating between primary colors, it switches to levels of luminosity |
| 14:19.17 | Funkeh` | action window with joysticks you say |
| 14:19.35 | nevcairiel | those parts are still disabled in the UI |
| 14:20.00 | Funkeh` | I want to fly my mount with my joystick |
| 14:20.19 | Funkeh` | then I can be like a real pilot |
| 14:20.39 | Nenue | It's physically impossible to accomodate every type of colorblindness. |
| 14:20.52 | Nenue | But contrast and luminosity tweaking does address the most common cases. |
| 14:21.27 | pentium166 | a real pilot who flies in a universe that has no laws of physics other than basic gravity |
| 14:21.31 | Funkeh` | Nenue, I DEMAND COMPENSATION FOR FALSE ADVERTISING |
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| 14:21.45 | Funkeh` | lol pentium166 |
| 14:22.11 | nevcairiel | Also, a real pilot should probably not be color blind |
| 14:22.13 | pentium166 | it's part of the reason why vehicles are horrible, i think |
| 14:22.25 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, shhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 14:22.36 | nevcairiel | just sayin' |
| 14:22.43 | Funkeh` | :( |
| 14:22.46 | nevcairiel | "Is that a red or a green light flashing?" |
| 14:22.58 | Funkeh` | it was my dream to be a pilot when I was younger |
| 14:23.11 | Funkeh` | finding out I was colourblind literally destroyed me for a long time |
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| 14:26.13 | Funkeh` | wow I killed irc |
| 14:27.04 | sb|work | destroyed |
| 14:27.07 | pentium166 | everyone's all depressed now |
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| 14:30.43 | Funkeh` | woopdedoo |
| 14:30.49 | Funkeh` | they added gold amount symbols |
| 14:30.56 | Funkeh` | for the colorblind |
| 14:31.15 | Funkeh` | I wouldn't think 3 such distinct colours.. |
| 14:31.20 | Funkeh` | infact fuck it nvm |
| 14:32.30 | Funkeh` | the lfg role thing looks nifty, though |
| 14:38.41 | Fisker- | best change ever is instance maps |
| 14:38.43 | Fisker- | <3 |
| 14:38.59 | sb|work | what? |
| 14:39.05 | sb|work | they implemented instance maps? |
| 14:39.06 | Fisker- | you heard me |
| 14:39.08 | Fisker- | ye |
| 14:39.11 | sb|work | screenshot or didnt happen |
| 14:39.54 | Fisker- | http://i43.tinypic.com/2ahcw83.jpg |
| 14:40.16 | Fisker- | it can display you on the map as well btw |
| 14:40.23 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: you have aggro |
| 14:40.29 | sb|work | somebody please tell me that this url is worksafe :p |
| 14:40.32 | sb|work | i dont trust Fisker- :p |
| 14:40.48 | Fisker- | Anyways i was at the entrance which wasn't mapped |
| 14:41.03 | Fisker- | so i don't appear on the map before i get further in etc. |
| 14:41.31 | pentium166 | it appears to be work safe. |
| 14:41.40 | sb|work | uhm so you actually have positions in instances? |
| 14:41.53 | sb|work | player/party/whatever? |
| 14:41.56 | nevcairiel | who knows |
| 14:42.03 | nevcairiel | maybe they cheat the player icon on the map |
| 14:42.08 | sb|work | Fisker- knows |
| 14:42.19 | nevcairiel | Fisker- knows nothing .) |
| 14:42.58 | Fisker- | i'll go test |
| 14:43.05 | Fisker- | they also have new party icons |
| 14:43.10 | nevcairiel | everytime i log on to the PTR i get all my titles awarded again, heh |
| 14:43.13 | Fisker- | or atleast raid icons |
| 14:43.39 | Funkeh` | youhaven't lived until you've read a 37487 line patch diff |
| 14:43.48 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:45.01 | nevcairiel | Appears to give us coordinates in instances |
| 14:45.24 | sb|work | nice :) |
| 14:45.29 | Funkeh` | sex |
| 14:45.48 | nevcairiel | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/dc4bdf1014823aa39e2e9082830329b2.jpg |
| 14:45.53 | nevcairiel | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/1bfff266ec52839c26cb0113c95c033a.jpg |
| 14:46.12 | nevcairiel | but they moved the damn floors dropdown |
| 14:46.36 | Funkeh` | is the 2 squares int he actualy game |
| 14:46.39 | Funkeh` | or are my eyes fucked |
| 14:46.50 | nevcairiel | yeah they are tehre |
| 14:46.54 | nevcairiel | soem gfx error |
| 14:46.58 | nevcairiel | its on fiskers screenshot too |
| 14:47.33 | nevcairiel | if i had to guess, its supposed to be up/down buttons |
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| 14:48.51 | dodga | I don't get it. Hymn of Hope is removed but they added a Glyph for it? :D |
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| 14:49.25 | nevcairiel | Don't trust in everything mmo-c writes, they datamine stuff from the game files, and that doesn't have to be perfectly accurate |
| 14:49.32 | nevcairiel | the glyph could be locked |
| 14:49.39 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 14:49.47 | Fisker- | Didn't find out until after it was posted it was removed :D |
| 14:50.06 | dodga | Yeah but why would they bother adding a glyph to the data files for a spell that gets removed :D |
| 14:50.17 | nevcairiel | development process |
| 14:50.18 | dodga | I mean the glyph wasn't in the game when the spell was available :D |
| 14:50.34 | nevcairiel | maybe they added the glyph to try to enhance the spell |
| 14:50.37 | dodga | Yeah okay. Still find it pretty odd :D |
| 14:50.44 | nevcairiel | but it didnt work out, so they decided to just dump it |
| 14:51.16 | nevcairiel | i dunno, the glyph will probably disappear in the next build |
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| 14:53.47 | dodga | mh, let's wait and see |
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| 14:55.19 | nevcairiel | I wish they would add new alchemists stones |
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| 14:55.46 | Megalon | i'm still waiting for my spellpower polearm :< |
| 14:56.53 | dodga | Heh the screenshot of Val'anyr is funny |
| 14:56.56 | thul | hilarious, nsfw if you got a boring boss: http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg218/Memnock1974/8a4996457026d16e673dfcf2251365e7.jpg |
| 14:57.01 | kagaro | i wish the tailor patterns didnt take 2 months to make |
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| 14:57.11 | dodga | Combines 40 fragments -> Unique (30) :D |
| 14:57.18 | kagaro | ahah |
| 14:57.23 | quiescens | glyph of pestilence if it exists would be nice |
| 14:57.37 | Stanzilla | dodga: link :> |
| 14:57.43 | dodga | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/february/fragmentsvalanyr.jpg |
| 14:57.55 | dodga | Also interesting how they implement gold-sinks |
| 14:58.01 | kagaro | Glyph of Pestilence *new* -- Your Pestilence ability now refreshes disease durations on your primary target back to their maximum duration. |
| 14:58.05 | dodga | Trade in your old Kirin Tor ring and 1k gold for a new one |
| 14:58.57 | Nenue | cool, yet another legendary item for insolvent guilds to fall apart over |
| 14:59.06 | dodga | totally not worth upgrading the Kirin Tor ring |
| 14:59.16 | sb|work | Nenue: huh? :p |
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| 14:59.48 | nevcairiel | 1000 gold is nothing |
| 14:59.56 | dodga | But the ring is still crap |
| 14:59.56 | nevcairiel | and for people not raiding, its worth it |
| 15:00.02 | Xinhuan | 1000g is like 3 hours of work ;p |
| 15:00.04 | dodga | I'd rather buy another mount for that cash :P |
| 15:00.21 | dodga | But then again, I already got the two best rings for me already :P |
| 15:01.04 | kagaro | i might buy it as kt has been a jive sucka and never drops the ring for us |
| 15:01.33 | nevcairiel | I don't even have the first ring |
| 15:02.26 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 15:02.28 | Xinhuan | http://wotlkwiki.info/chaud/ss/SS-20090224064429.jpg |
| 15:02.28 | Xinhuan | fuck yes |
| 15:02.36 | Xinhuan | HAHAHA |
| 15:02.43 | quiescens | o.o |
| 15:02.44 | CrazyBenny | haha |
| 15:02.58 | robotusch | FU! |
| 15:03.08 | kagaro | ohh yes i must buy one of those |
| 15:03.10 | robotusch | my poor toy train set :( |
| 15:03.25 | Twisted-Transist | lol |
| 15:03.27 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: there is a feat of strength for you; Insane in the Membrane; Honored Booty Bay Pirates, Exalted with the 4 Goblin Towns, Exalted Ravenholdt/Shendralas/Darkmoon .. all at once! |
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| 15:03.50 | Fisker- | :( robotusch :( |
| 15:04.27 | thul | http://globalpartssupport.com/FM/Shanell/49a36d948ac1c.jpg <- that is hot |
| 15:05.14 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 15:05.16 | Xinhuan | i'm not Honored Booty Bay Pirates |
| 15:05.24 | nevcairiel | well go work on it! |
| 15:05.27 | nevcairiel | http://ace.pastey.net/108899 |
| 15:05.28 | Xinhuan | unless they credit me having the booty bat pirates hat |
| 15:05.29 | nevcairiel | thats it |
| 15:05.31 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: is there a list of new achievements somehwere? |
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| 15:05.50 | Xinhuan | Honored with Bloodsail Buccaneers |
| 15:05.51 | Xinhuan | i mean |
| 15:06.01 | Xinhuan | dunno if they credit me as complting the honored quest for it |
| 15:06.09 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: not alot, just some for the Argent Tournament and for noble garden |
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| 15:06.14 | Stanzilla | kk |
| 15:06.22 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: no they don't, the point is to achieve those all at the same time |
| 15:06.31 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blackrock&n=Xinhuan |
| 15:06.35 | nevcairiel | Which is insane work |
| 15:06.39 | kagaro | looks like they changed Be Mine! or its bugged |
| 15:06.42 | Xinhuan | wellllll |
| 15:06.47 | Xinhuan | i don't really want to regrind it a 3rd time |
| 15:07.06 | nevcairiel | you would have to get pirates to honored, then restore booty bay without loosing pirates |
| 15:07.08 | nevcairiel | i believe |
| 15:07.18 | Xinhuan | but i guess the Insane title is worth wearing |
| 15:07.25 | quiescens | xinhuan is insane |
| 15:07.27 | haste | probably not |
| 15:07.36 | nevcairiel | Now its official, Xinhuan really is insane |
| 15:07.40 | haste | reputation stuff seems to stick |
| 15:07.56 | nevcairiel | haste: not in this case |
| 15:08.14 | haste | sucks to be the insane guy then |
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| 15:08.18 | Xinhuan | depends i guess |
| 15:08.26 | Xinhuan | on whether they implement it that way |
| 15:08.48 | quiescens | its okay xinhuan, what's another couple more goblins to kill |
| 15:08.51 | quiescens | /pat |
| 15:09.09 | nevcairiel | Hey i can be Nevcairiel of Darnassus |
| 15:09.12 | nevcairiel | thats great :) |
| 15:09.21 | Fisker- | haha pro |
| 15:09.26 | Xinhuan | well i already have 25 titles |
| 15:09.37 | nevcairiel | I didnt count mine |
| 15:09.45 | Stanzilla | of Darnassus? |
| 15:09.49 | Fisker- | the Equipment Manager vendors all your gear |
| 15:09.53 | Stanzilla | is that this tournament stuff? |
| 15:09.55 | nevcairiel | Exalted Champion of Darnassus - Earn exalted status with and the right to represent Darnassus in the Argent Tournament. (Title Reward: of Darnassus) |
| 15:09.55 | Fisker- | if you have a vendor window up while changing gear |
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| 15:10.21 | quiescens | neat |
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| 15:10.29 | nevcairiel | i'm already exalted with all alliance factions, so that should be good |
| 15:10.48 | quiescens | what do you actually do in this supposed argent tournament |
| 15:11.00 | nevcairiel | no one knows yet |
| 15:11.17 | nevcairiel | apparently fight other players on flying combat mounts |
| 15:11.21 | nevcairiel | vehcile combat in the air |
| 15:11.34 | nevcairiel | but thats all there is on info |
| 15:13.31 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 15:13.35 | Fisker- | Blizzard Arena UI :O |
| 15:13.49 | Fisker- | just usual mounts nevcairiel |
| 15:14.48 | dodga | I want to Mind Control people on their mount and make them dismount :> |
| 15:15.28 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 15:15.36 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: nah, its vehicles, l2readblueposts |
| 15:16.59 | nevcairiel | melee classes would be seriously fucked on normal mounts using their abilities =P |
| 15:17.07 | Kaelten | heh |
| 15:17.25 | sb|work | haha l2notmelee! |
| 15:17.31 | dodga | reloll caster? :P |
| 15:18.11 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: all good with the client? |
| 15:18.33 | Kaelten | yeah things are going good |
| 15:18.45 | Fisker- | nevcairiel i did the fucking event myself |
| 15:18.46 | Fisker- | l2ptr |
| 15:18.47 | Kaelten | next version should have a revamped toolbar that makes it feel more like a real app |
| 15:18.47 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r409 / (4 files in 2 directories): Add glyph widget for glyphs UI |
| 15:19.00 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: its not implemented yet fully, l2readbluepost :P |
| 15:19.04 | Fisker- | Kaelten GIEV RIBBON! |
| 15:19.22 | Kaelten | Fisker-: no ribbon control |
| 15:19.24 | Fisker- | why would it fuck melee classes then? |
| 15:19.25 | Kaelten | sry |
| 15:20.06 | nevcairiel | because in 3d space i can fly however i want, a melee could never stick on me |
| 15:20.12 | Fisker- | btw nevcairiel |
| 15:20.16 | Fisker- | BTW nevcairiel |
| 15:20.31 | Fisker- | It doesn't say flying combat |
| 15:20.49 | Xinhuan | Blackout: This talent has been removed. |
| 15:20.51 | Xinhuan | HAHAHA |
| 15:20.59 | Fisker- | also |
| 15:21.08 | Fisker- | "melee classes would be seriously fucked on normal mounts using their abilities =P" |
| 15:21.13 | Fisker- | normal mounts != flying mounts |
| 15:21.27 | nevcairiel | normal flying mounts |
| 15:21.34 | nevcairiel | shush |
| 15:21.41 | Fisker- | still not flying mounts |
| 15:21.42 | Fisker- | rawr |
| 15:22.25 | nevcairiel | you'll see, once its implemented! |
| 15:22.38 | Xinhuan | i wonder if talented addon will be necessary anymore |
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| 15:22.50 | quiescens | it'll still be nice |
| 15:23.00 | nevcairiel | well talented can save more templates, so if people swap through more then 2 specs .. sure |
| 15:23.02 | Kaelten | Xinhuan: my bet is it can be revamped |
| 15:23.12 | Kaelten | and still add a good chunk of functionality |
| 15:23.13 | Xinhuan | you can now choose talents and apply them at one go in default UI |
| 15:23.20 | Xinhuan | so you can't choose by mistake now |
| 15:23.22 | quiescens | you can save more templates as nev says, and you can look at other classes talents |
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| 15:23.32 | Pneumatus | talented is still useful for levelling, for target templates |
| 15:23.38 | Xinhuan | yeah those are nice perks |
| 15:23.42 | Xinhuan | but by no means necessary |
| 15:23.52 | nevcairiel | I'll get rid of ClosetGnome though |
| 15:23.54 | Xinhuan | most people use talented only to learn an entire spec without having to click 70 times |
| 15:24.32 | Xinhuan | closetgnome will still be handy i think, i have 4 sets of gear - PvP, Tanking, PvE Arcane, PvE Frost |
| 15:24.35 | quiescens | well its not exactly neccesary obviously then |
| 15:24.44 | Kaelten | Xinhuan: who knows, people's uses aren't as pradictable as we'd like at times |
| 15:24.48 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: you can have alot of sets with the new gear manager :) |
| 15:24.49 | quiescens | if that's all you use it for then you won't need it |
| 15:24.51 | nevcairiel | Its alot like CG |
| 15:24.55 | Xinhuan | oh? |
| 15:24.58 | Xinhuan | is there a limit? |
| 15:25.04 | quiescens | the gear manager isn't just back and forth between two |
| 15:25.05 | Zhinjio | Last time I thought Blizz was going to replace my need for an addon, they fucked it royally (in-game calendar) |
| 15:25.06 | nevcairiel | there are 10 boxes |
| 15:25.07 | nevcairiel | or 8 |
| 15:25.09 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
| 15:25.13 | nevcairiel | maybe it expands when they are full |
| 15:25.13 | Zhinjio | so yeah, I suspect there will still be a need for those addons |
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| 15:25.26 | Xinhuan | i'm still installing the ptr |
| 15:25.30 | nevcairiel | meh the gear thing is nice |
| 15:25.39 | nevcairiel | could use some UI tweaks, but its the initial revision |
| 15:25.40 | Xinhuan | does the gear manager need unlocking? |
| 15:25.44 | Zhinjio | G'morning, folks. |
| 15:25.50 | nevcairiel | you need to activate it in the options |
| 15:26.00 | Pneumatus | i hope the sets are self-updating |
| 15:26.02 | nevcairiel | itsj ust a UI thing |
| 15:26.10 | Pneumatus | so you dont need to keep rememering to re-save like you do in CG |
| 15:26.14 | nevcairiel | no, you have to save them again if you change them |
| 15:26.18 | Pneumatus | fail |
| 15:26.24 | nevcairiel | i prefer it that way |
| 15:26.27 | steev | same |
| 15:26.28 | Zhinjio | me too |
| 15:26.32 | steev | i switch gear a lot |
| 15:26.34 | Stanzilla | does it keep the items if you change gems etc? |
| 15:26.50 | Kaelten | gah I hate it when I don't remember a password... |
| 15:26.50 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: didnt try |
| 15:26.58 | Zhinjio | Hey Kaelten |
| 15:27.03 | Kaelten | heya zhin |
| 15:27.14 | kagaro | holy crap Aquatic Riding Ray - Summons and dismisses an Aquatic Riding Ray. This is an aquatic mount. |
| 15:27.34 | sb|work | wtf? |
| 15:27.36 | nevcairiel | wtf do you need an aquatic mount for |
| 15:27.42 | sb|work | diving? :P |
| 15:27.48 | nevcairiel | yeah but when do you really dive alot |
| 15:27.57 | nevcairiel | next expansion "Waterworld"? :P |
| 15:27.57 | sb|work | i have no idea ;) |
| 15:27.59 | sb|work | :p |
| 15:28.09 | kagaro | nooooo not waterworld .. |
| 15:28.17 | Kaelten | there is that maelstrom thingy |
| 15:28.19 | Megalon | INTO THE MAELSTROM |
| 15:28.23 | sb|work | phased northrend - global warming and stuff :p |
| 15:28.23 | steev | nevcairiel: druids |
| 15:28.44 | sb|work | ice stone melts again -> water everywhere :p |
| 15:28.44 | nevcairiel | steev: ? |
| 15:28.46 | Fisker- | lets all harass Kaelten |
| 15:28.46 | sb|work | so you need them |
| 15:28.47 | Kaelten | there were also underwater instances discussed at some point |
| 15:28.50 | kagaro | 20 new non comabt pets |
| 15:28.52 | steev | er missed the other part |
| 15:29.19 | kagaro | interested new epic land mounts |
| 15:29.30 | nevcairiel | I wonder if that mount gets you breath oto |
| 15:29.34 | kagaro | 280% land mounts? |
| 15:29.34 | nevcairiel | *too |
| 15:29.44 | dodga | kek. PTR client just crashed with #132 :D |
| 15:29.48 | dodga | didn't see that for a long time |
| 15:30.03 | Fisker- | pretty common occurance atm |
| 15:30.04 | kagaro | dodga: the mac ptr client crashes after 20 seconds fo rme |
| 15:30.10 | Stanzilla | kagaro: list of new land mounts, where? :P |
| 15:30.17 | kagaro | mmo champion |
| 15:30.26 | kagaro | looks like 1 per faction |
| 15:30.28 | Stanzilla | I have to F5 moar |
| 15:30.28 | Stanzilla | >.< |
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| 15:33.04 | dodga | Logged in, got all titles again. Zoned to IF, got all titles again. Bought Dual-Spec, got achievement. Game crashed. :> |
| 15:33.20 | steev | oooh yogg saron |
| 15:34.16 | steev | hello unholy dps |
| 15:34.18 | steev | Glyph of Plague Strike -- Your Plague Strike does 60% additional damage. (Old: 20% additional damage if a disease was on the target) |
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| 15:36.20 | Xinhuan | The Ice Stone has melted. |
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| 15:41.17 | Twisted-Transist | how can i subscribe to my tickets on curseforge? |
| 15:41.52 | Twisted-Transist | i have found out how to subscribe to a project and get emails about new tickets and comments but i have found out how to subscibe to only my tickets |
| 15:42.42 | dodga | It seems that the trainable Divine Spirit is also the Improved Divine Spirit |
| 15:42.42 | nevcairiel | I don't think thats possible |
| 15:42.49 | nevcairiel | blame Kaelten for the whole subscription nightmare |
| 15:42.51 | dodga | At least I get 80 Spirit and Spell Power when casting it on me |
| 15:43.23 | Kaelten | yeah on my list as soon as things calm down with the client is to rewrite it |
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| 15:43.50 | Twisted-Transist | it just seems silly, on the forums i can subscribe to a threat and see when new post are made to it but on curse forge its like im subscibing to the enteir forum subsection |
| 15:43.54 | Pneumatus | is the UAC problem gonna be fixed for release, Kaelten? |
| 15:43.57 | nevcairiel | dodga: sould make sense as they removed the talents all |
| 15:44.04 | nevcairiel | s/sould/would/ |
| 15:45.35 | AckisWork | Pneumatus: it's a feature not a problem |
| 15:45.47 | dodga | nevcairiel: Actually I'm wrong |
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| 15:45.59 | dodga | But I don't understand where the additional spell power comes from |
| 15:46.06 | nevcairiel | other talents? :) |
| 15:46.11 | dodga | I tried DS untalented and nothing happened |
| 15:46.29 | Pneumatus | AckisWork: i disagree, asking for elevation will cause users not to use it |
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| 15:46.36 | mjc | WTB server maintenance completed :P |
| 15:46.47 | Twisted-Transist | do i file a ticket on the curse forge project itself to suggest being able to subscribe to individule tickets or is there some other place to post suggestions |
| 15:46.50 | AckisWork | Pneumatus: that was sarcasm... on the internet |
| 15:46.55 | dodga | Then I applied 13/0/58 (where there is no talent that increases spell power based on talents, AFAIK) and tried again and gained ~70 spell power |
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| 15:47.06 | dodga | Then I removed Inner Fire and tried again and got only 12 spell power |
| 15:47.33 | Pneumatus | Twisted-Transist: there's a ticket around somewhere already |
| 15:47.44 | Twisted-Transist | looking 4 it now |
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| 15:49.16 | Pneumatus | and it _should_ just be a simple case of elevating the new process thats spawned once an update has been downloaded |
| 15:50.08 | nevcairiel | The client could just run in the user space, and elevate the updater when it launches it |
| 15:51.26 | Twisted-Transist | i think i found it http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/871-ticket-autosubscription-for-author/ |
| 15:51.58 | dodga | Hm, I get 80 Spirit and 8 Spell Power when applying DS |
| 15:52.16 | quiescens | grats |
| 15:52.23 | dodga | Somewhere I get 10% of the Spirit granted by DS as Spell Power |
| 15:52.50 | Kaelten | yeah I want to redo it to allow much more granular subscriptions |
| 15:54.10 | AckisWork | Kaelten: do it today? ;) |
| 15:54.26 | Kaelten | it'll take me several days when I start it |
| 15:54.30 | Pneumatus | NO U |
| 15:54.59 | AckisWork | Kaelten: do it today and tomorrow? ;) |
| 15:55.01 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:55.05 | Kaelten | .... |
| 15:55.10 | AckisWork | <3 |
| 15:55.12 | Kaelten | ~lart AckisWork |
| 15:55.12 | purl | takes AckisWork to the vet for a "special" visit |
| 15:56.27 | Twisted-Transist | I feel the ticket subscription should work like the forum email subscription because I posted a error about CC removing libs if you uninstalled an addon but those libs were required by other addons and I never heard back |
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| 15:56.59 | Twisted-Transist | I had to go searching for my ticket to find out that it had been fixed rather then an email notifying me of a status change in the ticket or a new comment on it |
| 15:57.40 | Sliker_Hawk | .. invisible buildings in the tournament grounds ftw |
| 15:57.59 | nevcairiel | where is that place anyway? |
| 15:58.13 | Kaelten | Twisted-Transist: I agree |
| 15:58.26 | Twisted-Transist | should i create a ticket about this then? |
| 15:58.44 | Sliker_Hawk | Nort of sindragosa's fall in icecrown, nev |
| 15:58.55 | Sliker_Hawk | north* |
| 15:58.59 | Kaelten | Twisted-Transist: you can |
| 15:59.08 | AckisWork | Twisted-Transist: unless a ticket exists |
| 15:59.10 | Kaelten | when I get back on cf full time again its one of the first things I'll be tackling |
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| 15:59.54 | Twisted-Transist | there is a ticket about being auto subscribed to tickets you create |
| 15:59.54 | AckisWork | wow i don't think i can afford dual specs lol |
| 16:00.03 | Kaelten | huh? |
| 16:00.42 | Twisted-Transist | but it needs to be expanded (the subscription) to being able to subscribe to any ticket you like |
| 16:00.42 | Nenue | yeah! |
| 16:00.59 | Twisted-Transist | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/871-ticket-autosubscription-for-author/ |
| 16:01.00 | Kaelten | yeah I also want to have subscriptions on announcements etc |
| 16:01.56 | dodga | Hm okay, the 8 spell power was from Twisted Faith. No Imp DS anymore, DS is only adding spirit |
| 16:02.27 | Pneumatus | imp DS is largely useless in raids anyway |
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| 16:06.10 | dodga | Pneumatus: Yeah because it did not stack with Flametongue(?) Totem, but meh, just wanted to know |
| 16:06.22 | Pneumatus | yeh, doesnt stack with flametonge/totem of wrath |
| 16:06.38 | AckisWork | New Talent: Empowered Renew: Your Renew spell gains an additional 5/10/15% of your bonus healing effects, and your Renew will instantly heal the target for 5/10/15% of the total periodic effect. <-- I just came |
| 16:06.58 | sb|work | gnaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 16:07.03 | sb|work | just opened my cracked egg on the ptr |
| 16:07.13 | sb|work | guess what :p |
| 16:07.15 | mjc | bleh |
| 16:07.17 | Pneumatus | balls to that, empowered flash heal ftw :P |
| 16:07.57 | quiescens | if they get rid of imp ds shouldn't they technically give someoneorather another spellpower buff |
| 16:08.01 | quiescens | so that it isn't shaman only |
| 16:08.16 | quiescens | or is there already one that I'm not thinking of |
| 16:08.19 | Pneumatus | its probably shared with the warlock pet buff also |
| 16:08.26 | Pneumatus | the crit proc thing |
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| 16:11.09 | sb|work | proto drake whelp on live, mount on ptr |
| 16:11.10 | sb|work | this sucks :) |
| 16:11.21 | Xinhuan | http://www.filedump.net/dumped/wowscrnshot0224091124591235475196.jpg |
| 16:11.26 | Xinhuan | AH interface changed slightly |
| 16:11.39 | evl | yeah sucked having to scroll down |
| 16:11.49 | evl | doesn't look finished :P |
| 16:12.34 | AckisWork | sb|work: lol poor bastard |
| 16:12.53 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: man you're a beast! |
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| 16:14.05 | AckisWork | Prospector Khazgorm, found in Bael Modan in southern Barrens, now sells the recipe for Dig Rat Stew to the Alliance. |
| 16:14.29 | sb|work | so eggs are not filled when you get it but RNG decides later whats inside ;) |
| 16:14.46 | quiescens | of course |
| 16:15.21 | AckisWork | New Advanced features for quest tracking are now available. Players will need to activate this option within the Interface panel. <-- what new features? |
| 16:16.45 | Megalon | sb|work: well, loot is determined on spawn |
| 16:17.00 | Megalon | and the item with the 7d cd spawns another one when it's ready |
| 16:17.55 | sb|work | hm yup |
| 16:19.15 | Silowyi | 3.1 is going to completely a-rape my ui addons, I can tell already |
| 16:19.27 | Silowyi | they seem to be changing just about everything |
| 16:20.02 | Twisted-Transist | Ackis no idea about what the new quest log changes is i reckon its going to let you see all the quests you have completed in each zone |
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| 16:25.53 | nuoHep | AckisWork, I only noticed quest objectives in tooltips http://i43.tinypic.com/2eeh11x.jpg |
| 16:26.21 | AckisWork | oh those are wicked |
| 16:27.04 | evl | wtf? Glyph of Hunger For Blood *new* -- Increases the bonus damage from Hunger For Blood by 1% per application. |
| 16:27.11 | evl | didn't they just change it to a single charge ability |
| 16:27.14 | evl | in the same patch let alone |
| 16:27.58 | quiescens | shrugs |
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| 16:28.24 | Daduke1 | Why is there no longer a version check for omen? |
| 16:28.43 | nuoHep | AckisWork, you can also reposition the tracker http://i43.tinypic.com/1491d2q.jpg |
| 16:28.44 | quiescens | because omen is just a display for the internal threat api now? |
| 16:28.50 | Daduke1 | I've checked every option in the control panel UI, and I cannot seem to find it |
| 16:28.52 | sb|work | haha, train wrecker rocks |
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| 16:29.30 | AckisWork | hmm looks like they're making the quest frame proper finally, maybe doing something like warhammer with the quest objectives (aka questhelper) |
| 16:29.33 | Daduke1 | quiescens, that makes sense |
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| 16:30.18 | Daduke1 | I guess just one more question is there way to break the macro character limit? |
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| 16:36.31 | sb|work | bah wow error every ~2 minutes |
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| 16:36.38 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.6.4-7-g9b9591b / (6 files in 3 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 16:36.41 | Repo | 9b9591b: fix bug with the new LDB-launcher that screws with other addons |
| 16:36.44 | Repo | b497921: add localizations for subcategory-options |
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| 16:49.45 | steev | oooh fancy graphics on the scanning dialog Kaelten |
| 16:50.02 | Kaelten | hrm? |
| 16:50.12 | steev | just bumped to 2.1.2.0 |
| 16:50.29 | Kaelten | ah |
| 16:50.40 | Kaelten | yeah trying to grind out the quirkyness from the ui |
| 16:50.45 | steev | yay activity log works :) |
| 16:51.03 | Xinhuan | is Zhinjio around |
| 16:54.21 | Camci | Is anyone on PTR and does your chat frame work....? |
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| 17:04.12 | Torhal | Kaelten: Is it possible that the "Overwrite working copies" used to be "Ignore working copies"? :) |
| 17:04.26 | Torhal | That would explain why I had a checkmark next to it. |
| 17:05.01 | Xinhuan | "working copy" is a programmer term, so that option better have an explanation for normal users |
| 17:05.03 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 17:06.55 | VonhintenHOME` | Prepare for more sacrifice |
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| 17:08.59 | Torhal | Xinhuan: Nope. No tooltip. Heh. |
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| 17:12.32 | Mikk | "Developers only: Ignore SVN/HG/blahblah directories" <--- |
| 17:12.52 | Mikk | "Developers only: Don't overwrite SVN/HG/blahblah directories" <--- |
| 17:13.02 | Mikk | Tbh that should probably just be on by default |
| 17:13.27 | Torhal | Mikk: That should be there, but I knew what it meant. My issue was that the new CC overwrote my SVN addons, which it did not do in previous editions. |
| 17:13.53 | Torhal | So I was wondering if "Ignore working copies" was changed to "Overwrite working copies" using the same variable. |
| 17:14.06 | Torhal | ...because I had a check next to it, and I simply would not have done that. |
| 17:15.24 | Mikk | probably |
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| 17:15.52 | Mikk | thinking about what happens when you upgrade settings is not something that novice programmers tend to do well |
| 17:15.55 | Torhal | I was just happy that I didn't have any work in progress. |
| 17:16.16 | Mikk | they just tend to think "fresh install" |
| 17:16.20 | Torhal | Heh |
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| 17:17.28 | Mikk | Actually, the REAL question is if it should even be configurable |
| 17:17.46 | Torhal | Yah, I don't see any reason I'd want to overwrite my repository. |
| 17:17.52 | Mikk | no, never |
| 17:18.00 | Torhal | So I was surprised when it did so with this version. |
| 17:18.18 | Mikk | And if someone no longer wants one addon under source code control.... well just go delete the .svn folder, or just zap it entirely and get anew |
| 17:18.29 | Mikk | They should know how to do that if they knew how to get it from source code to begin with |
| 17:18.44 | Torhal | Seerah, I'm afraid that in the next version, "Overwrite" will be changed back to "Ignore", and it will happen again. |
| 17:18.58 | Torhal | s/Seerah/See/ |
| 17:19.04 | Mikk | Mhm |
| 17:19.09 | Seerah | :P |
| 17:19.22 | Torhal | Seerah: Damn tab key...:) |
| 17:19.26 | Seerah | :) |
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| 17:30.30 | sb|work | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6656375580433170275&hl=en - train wrecker works :) |
| 17:31.22 | Camci | anyone here on ptr? |
| 17:31.43 | nevcairiel | not right now, but i could be if i wanted |
| 17:32.08 | Camci | game crashed every 10 min or so :/ |
| 17:32.13 | Camci | crahses |
| 17:37.08 | nevcairiel | btw, instance maps, teh awesome |
| 17:37.28 | nevcairiel | accurate distance to raid members, more awesome |
| 17:37.50 | durcyn | it's just wotlk instances so far, no? |
| 17:37.56 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
| 17:37.59 | nevcairiel | i should go into an old one |
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| 17:57.51 | Xinhuan | yep legendary item |
| 17:57.56 | Xinhuan | Unique (30) |
| 17:58.04 | Xinhuan | but says to combine 40 of them in the Use: Text |
| 17:58.23 | quiescens | magic |
| 18:01.54 | Xinhuan | u know what |
| 18:02.05 | Xinhuan | patchwerk would be more fun if he didn't patrol past Frogger |
| 18:02.17 | Xinhuan | so your whole raid had to run thru frogger THEN engage him beyond it |
| 18:02.40 | Taladris | haha. |
| 18:02.48 | Taladris | So many raids would fail. |
| 18:02.59 | Taladris | "AMG REZ FASTER HE'S COMING BACK!" |
| 18:04.29 | Xinhuan | the proper strategy would be to send a rogue thru first and distract him |
| 18:04.48 | quiescens | drop totems on the slimes~ |
| 18:05.45 | quiescens | with the 5 minute totems you could hypothetically do the patchwerk fight during the frogger event! |
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| 18:06.11 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/convert-svn-to-git/ by Ackis |
| 18:08.02 | VonhintenHOME` | Xinhuan, that would make rogues useful |
| 18:08.11 | VonhintenHOME` | Hence, not something blizzard would do |
| 18:08.26 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/convert-svn-to-git/ by Ackis |
| 18:09.06 | profalbert | Ackis an alias g=git? |
| 18:11.04 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/ by Ackis |
| 18:11.35 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/convert-svn-to-git/ by Ackis |
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| 18:12.30 | Xinhuan | hmm instance maps |
| 18:12.37 | Xinhuan | are going to be interesting |
| 18:12.38 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/convert-svn-to-git/ by Ackis |
| 18:12.47 | Torhal | I'm unsure if Warlocks were nerfed or buffed, from the notes. |
| 18:13.23 | durcyn | demo and destro got a damage boost, aff is going to be slightly lower without SL and immolate |
| 18:13.33 | Torhal | I do know that I require a respec. Gah. |
| 18:13.59 | Arrowmaster | affliction got a 3% buff |
| 18:14.03 | durcyn | Haunt and SE are shadow only, molten core's gone |
| 18:14.12 | durcyn | and SL's missing from siphon |
| 18:14.15 | Torhal | MC's demo now for some reason |
| 18:14.26 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://kb.wowace.com/admin/ by Ackis |
| 18:15.02 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/admin/how-to-approve-projects-and-files/ by ckknight |
| 18:15.34 | durcyn | the haunt bump and glyph might make up for it, but i'm not optimistic |
| 18:16.39 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/why-use-revision-control/ by Ackis |
| 18:16.45 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/repository-keyword-substitutions/ by ckknight |
| 18:16.50 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/repository-faq/ by Ackis |
| 18:16.55 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/how-to-use-tortoise-svn-over-ssh-in-312/ by Ackis |
| 18:17.01 | VonhintenHOME` | wow, the new kirin tor ring upgrades are garbage |
| 18:17.16 | VonhintenHOME` | Like I'm gonna pay 1000g to gain 2dps over my Ring of Invincibility |
| 18:18.07 | quiescens | eh |
| 18:18.10 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://kb.wowace.com/admin/ackis-is-a-spammer/ by Arrowmaster |
| 18:18.16 | quiescens | how much did you pay for the original ring |
| 18:18.17 | Xinhuan | lol |
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| 18:18.23 | Xinhuan | loooll |
| 18:18.36 | AckisWork | lol |
| 18:18.37 | VonhintenHOME` | too much |
| 18:18.39 | quiescens | for what would have probably been a single digit gain over whatever else was available |
| 18:19.00 | VonhintenHOME` | no, I bought mine before anyone was doing raiding |
| 18:19.13 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/ by Ackis |
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| 18:19.15 | VonhintenHOME` | fresh 80, was a decent purchase then |
| 18:19.56 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/pkgmeta-file/ by ckknight |
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| 18:20.55 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/docmeta-file/ by Ackis |
| 18:21.06 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/abandoned-project-policy/ by ckknight |
| 18:21.17 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/changing-descriptions/ by ckknight |
| 18:21.26 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/cloning/ by ckknight |
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| 18:21.32 | Arrowmaster | spam spam spam |
| 18:22.01 | quiescens | flee~ |
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| 18:22.11 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/getting-started-with-project-management/ by Zyuu |
| 18:22.11 | Xinhuan | i might make a series of knowledge base articles on writing wow addons :) |
| 18:22.14 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/localizing-your-project/ by Ackis |
| 18:22.19 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/project-acceptance-policy/ by ckknight |
| 18:22.25 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/what-to-do-after-creating-a-project/ by ckknight |
| 18:22.44 | AckisWork | sorry for the spam, the kb was getting clogged up and needed to be categorized |
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| 18:23.09 | VonhintenHOME` | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/february/yoggsaron_brain.jpg pretty slick looking |
| 18:23.32 | NeoTron | BRAINS |
| 18:23.39 | durcyn | it looks like a gorram c'thun copy so far |
| 18:23.44 | NeoTron | YS => many mounts, tentacles (3 kinds), brain |
| 18:23.55 | durcyn | and not in a good way |
| 18:23.55 | NeoTron | instead of eye, tentacles, stomach |
| 18:23.56 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/getting-started-with-wow-ace/ by Xinhuan |
| 18:24.14 | durcyn | blizzard seriously is out of ideas |
| 18:24.23 | NeoTron | imho remains to be seen |
| 18:24.32 | Arrowmaster | atleast tentacle rape party is back |
| 18:24.38 | NeoTron | they are after all similar beings so similarities to the fights isn't necessarily a bad thing |
| 18:25.03 | Xinhuan | so, the renaming of pages lists the last updated author's name |
| 18:25.06 | Xinhuan | by Repo |
| 18:25.10 | NeoTron | Mimiron's Head is the leetest mount though. except it should be like 110% ground mount not 100% |
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| 18:25.15 | AckisWork | yup xi |
| 18:25.16 | Repo | 10repairbroker: 03sonomus * r20 Locales/koKR.lua: koKR update, thx to shwy72! |
| 18:25.38 | Torhal | I read that as "repairborker" |
| 18:26.20 | VonhintenHOME` | runed orb? |
| 18:26.23 | durcyn | NeoTron: the koopa copter, you mean |
| 18:26.55 | VonhintenHOME` | what's runed orb from? ulduar random drop? |
| 18:27.04 | LiGGe | guys |
| 18:27.08 | LiGGe | i have problem |
| 18:27.11 | Pneumatus | let me check my crystal ball |
| 18:27.30 | quiescens | what kind of crystal |
| 18:27.31 | LiGGe | my wow doesnt work :/ |
| 18:27.53 | NeoTron | http://robit.info/forums/download/file.php?id=39 zoom zoom |
| 18:28.08 | Pneumatus | i really wish mmochamp would show ilevels on tooltips |
| 18:28.33 | LiGGe | cool :/ |
| 18:29.13 | NeoTron | Pneumatus: indeed |
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| 18:29.20 | LiGGe | lol, i cant use hardware mouse :/ |
| 18:29.30 | Pneumatus | dungeon maps, pro :o |
| 18:29.56 | Torhal | I'm wondering when they'll proofread the quests at Light's Hope Chapel. There's still a reference to the entrance to Naxxramas being in EPL, and other oddities since the move. |
| 18:30.58 | Arrowmaster | where are people seeing info about dungeon maps? |
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| 18:31.10 | Pneumatus | Arrowmaster: mmochamp |
| 18:31.17 | Pneumatus | Update 17:55 CET - New dungeon maps have been added to the game. |
| 18:31.19 | Torhal | I didn't read it in the PTR patch notes... |
| 18:31.20 | quiescens | the maps themselves are visible or something |
| 18:31.41 | Torhal | Screenshot or it didn't happen? |
| 18:31.49 | Xinhuan | screenshots are on mmo-champion |
| 18:31.51 | Xinhuan | all of them |
| 18:31.53 | Arrowmaster | wtb more harddrive space so i might actually be able to install the ptr |
| 18:31.53 | quiescens | there are like screenshots of like 10 different dungens |
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| 18:31.55 | quiescens | dungeons |
| 18:33.15 | Arrowmaster | has anybody on the ptr actually seen this or is this just stuff pulled from the data files? |
| 18:33.29 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/knowledge-base-articles-reorganized/ |
| 18:33.34 | Xinhuan | its on worldofraids.com too, if you care, Arrowmaster |
| 18:33.56 | quiescens | there were screenshots of the maps ingame |
| 18:34.12 | Xinhuan | in game screenshots that is |
| 18:34.14 | LiGGe | guys, do you use OpenGL or DirectX? |
| 18:34.26 | AckisWork | I use DirectGL |
| 18:34.27 | VonhintenHOME` | directx, vista |
| 18:34.29 | Arrowmaster | no they look like extracted image files to me |
| 18:34.40 | Xinhuan | then you haven't seen the ingame screenshots |
| 18:34.42 | quiescens | whether they are in the default map system or if the textures just exist and were implemented by an addon or something is still potentially possible |
| 18:34.55 | VonhintenHOME` | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/february/leatherworking_footpadsofsilence.jpg clearly the double AP is invalid.. removing the 112 AP they're still a big upgrade over Dawnwalkers |
| 18:35.00 | Xinhuan | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/dc4bdf1014823aa39e2e9082830329b2.jpg |
| 18:35.02 | Xinhuan | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/1bfff266ec52839c26cb0113c95c033a.jpg |
| 18:35.04 | quiescens | but there were in game screenshots |
| 18:35.20 | quiescens | it could be some big conspiracy! |
| 18:35.40 | Bibi` | wait |
| 18:35.41 | Pneumatus | nev clearly 'shopped those! |
| 18:35.44 | NivFreak | fuck |
| 18:35.46 | Bibi` | there is an addon named tekticles? |
| 18:35.49 | Bibi` | that's disturbing. |
| 18:35.49 | NivFreak | they nerfed ghetto hearthing |
| 18:35.50 | NivFreak | in 3.1 |
| 18:35.54 | LiGGe | I use Ubuntu 8.10 and OpenGl... cant see minimap and actionbuttons are crashed |
| 18:35.59 | NivFreak | and I'm pretty sure they nerfed pvp ports too |
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| 18:36.24 | Pneumatus | you cant leave a group to hearth now? |
| 18:36.25 | quiescens | omg, a glyph to reduce the cost of tree of life |
| 18:36.28 | Pneumatus | *in an instance |
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| 18:36.30 | quiescens | that's exactly what they need |
| 18:36.40 | quiescens | if you leave the group it sends you to the nearest graveyard |
| 18:36.42 | NivFreak | Pneumatus: http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8992/wowscrnshot022409161144.jpg |
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| 18:37.12 | Pneumatus | fail graveyards |
| 18:37.52 | VonhintenHOME` | at least my kirin tor 2nd hearth will be worth a damn now! |
| 18:38.06 | NivFreak | I might have to buy one now =( |
| 18:38.40 | quiescens | mm |
| 18:39.06 | Pneumatus | bmclemore@curse.com |
| 18:39.58 | Pneumatus | From: "WowAce Forums" <bmclemore@curse.com> |
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| 18:40.04 | Pneumatus | specifically ^^ |
| 18:40.19 | VonhintenHOME` | There any addons for mage porting? |
| 18:40.24 | NivFreak | I wish there was a good tanking ring from kirin tor |
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| 18:41.38 | LiGGe | how many of you play with ubuntu? ... |
| 18:42.35 | profalbert | sometimes when I'm too lazy to rebot |
| 18:42.42 | profalbert | s/rebot/reboot/ |
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| 18:44.14 | LiGGe | k, thsi is slow and i cant see all things :( |
| 18:44.23 | VonhintenHOME` | good god, Glyph of Divine Plea, 3% reduced damage while it's up, with the new change it'll basically always be up |
| 18:44.33 | VonhintenHOME` | go go pally tank |
| 18:44.56 | profalbert | LiGGe: ATI or nvidia? |
| 18:46.12 | LiGGe | my boot says nothing |
| 18:46.32 | LiGGe | i dotn have drivers, only wlan |
| 18:46.37 | LiGGe | dont* |
| 18:47.34 | Pneumatus | is there a new version of wowtorrentex that works on the latest downloaders? |
| 18:48.36 | nevcairiel | I haven't seen one, i just get the torrents from a.wirebrain.com/wow |
| 18:49.10 | nevcairiel | er |
| 18:49.14 | nevcairiel | a.wirebrain.de/wow |
| 18:49.15 | nevcairiel | mybad |
| 18:50.10 | Pneumatus | wow, that site is quick :o |
| 18:50.37 | nevcairiel | it also has direct downloads using the coral network |
| 18:50.41 | nevcairiel | which might be fast |
| 18:50.42 | nevcairiel | or might not |
| 18:50.48 | VonhintenHOME` | shield of righteousness high threat removed... weaaaaak |
| 18:50.53 | Pneumatus | ive just hit the direct download and am getting 600k/s |
| 18:50.54 | quiescens | I guess they're making nourish a lot more valuable than it was |
| 18:51.06 | quiescens | shield of righteousness was buffed to 130% + 520 or something though |
| 18:51.39 | Arrowmaster | Pneumatus: http://capnbry.net/wow/downloads/WoWTorrentEx-3.zip doesnt work? |
| 18:51.45 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, but that thing was awesome threat before... our MT was popping off 10k SoR's for an instant 30k threat |
| 18:52.19 | quiescens | ultimately that was too inconsistent with like, every other tank |
| 18:52.28 | VonhintenHOME` | heh |
| 18:52.33 | Pneumatus | Arrowmaster: nope, creates invalid torrent files :< |
| 18:53.26 | Arrowmaster | Pneumatus: make Shirik or somebody else that knows C fix it |
| 18:53.33 | Shirik | ? |
| 18:53.42 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: fix http://capnbry.net/wow/downloads/WoWTorrentEx-3.zip |
| 18:53.57 | LiGGe | my wow is like that http://lh3.ggpht.com/_pNI3RYjx7GY/SSHJJuU73rI/AAAAAAAAACA/q3K7wwnMpts/s800/Screenshot-World of Warcraft |
| 18:54.00 | Pneumatus | im guessing they've changed the offset of the torrent in the installer, or something |
| 18:54.09 | VonhintenHOME` | most likely |
| 18:54.10 | Shirik | what's wrong? |
| 18:54.19 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: hex editor and the ptr downloader go go |
| 18:54.35 | Shirik | oh no f that, I have a paper due tomorrow and 4 hours of sleep in the last 2 days |
| 18:54.37 | Shirik | maybe later |
| 18:54.46 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 18:54.50 | Gnarfoz | the seed is planted :p |
| 18:55.10 | Shirik | however, your use of strrchr() is very odd |
| 18:55.15 | Shirik | most people use strtok() for something like that |
| 18:55.28 | NivFreak | *# Aquatic Riding Ray - Summons and dismisses an Aquatic Riding Ray. This is an aquatic mount. |
| 18:55.30 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: thats somebody elses |
| 18:55.31 | NivFreak | hrmmm |
| 18:56.09 | quiescens | glyph reducing cooldown on penance is interesting |
| 18:56.23 | quiescens | with the talent that brings it down to what, 6s? |
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| 18:58.17 | quiescens | what sort of mats are we talking about for that thingy for the respeccing outside of towns |
| 18:59.18 | selckin | 1000g |
| 18:59.30 | quiescens | nono |
| 18:59.49 | quiescens | you didn't actually read my question ): |
| 19:00.44 | quiescens | blizzard said that using the spec switching outside of towns will use a reagent from inscription or something, so has anyone seen what the mats for it might be like |
| 19:01.00 | durcyn | portable lexicon |
| 19:01.41 | selckin | will be cheap anyway |
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| 19:04.08 | Mochito | sup |
| 19:04.19 | Xinhuan | US ptr char copy up |
| 19:04.20 | Xinhuan | gogo |
| 19:04.26 | Mochito | i need an addon that changes my outfit depending on my stance |
| 19:04.28 | Mochito | suggestions? |
| 19:04.53 | Mochito | does outfitter do that? |
| 19:04.53 | Mochito | oO |
| 19:06.22 | Primer | pretty sure itemrack or closet gnome can do that |
| 19:06.30 | Primer | s/or/and/ |
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| 19:11.43 | Mochito | outfitter is somekinda ,,too big'' |
| 19:11.49 | Mochito | which is lightweight? |
| 19:12.44 | NivFreak | soon enough you won't need an addon like that :) |
| 19:12.53 | haste | the one you like (tm) |
| 19:13.03 | durcyn | because gear manager isn't going to be badly implemented, NivFreak. |
| 19:13.04 | haste | also.. now I want a mochi :( |
| 19:13.11 | NivFreak | 1000G for dual specs, I guess that's not terrible |
| 19:13.18 | NivFreak | I wish I had it before lvl 80 for some of my alts |
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| 19:13.37 | haste | it's like one day of dailies NivFreak |
| 19:14.17 | Repo | 10volumizer: 03Torhal * r13 Volumizer.lua: |
| 19:14.20 | Repo | Added check-box toggles for "Sound in Background", "Loop Music", "Error Speech", and "Emote Sounds". |
| 19:14.45 | NivFreak | haste: yes, on how many toons? :P |
| 19:15.05 | haste | one! |
| 19:15.45 | Repo | 10volumizer: 03Torhal 043.0.9-1.0.4 * r14 : Tagging as 3.0.9-1.0.4 |
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| 19:18.06 | LiGGe | What DirectX version i need to play wow atm? |
| 19:20.08 | Fisker- | looks like people still hate haste |
| 19:20.37 | durcyn | no, people love haste. people hate Fisker- |
| 19:21.24 | haste | make haste, not fiskere |
| 19:22.45 | Torhal | durcyn: Are you saying Blizzard can't properly hack in stuff that has been addons forever? :D |
| 19:23.15 | Torhal | Fisker-: You know, that crack pipe is burning blisters through your hand. |
| 19:23.18 | haste | depends on how you define properly |
| 19:23.27 | Torhal | haste: I had my sarcasm hat on. |
| 19:23.29 | Gnarfoz | LiGGe: none if you use opengl, I guess :> |
| 19:23.34 | nevcairiel | Hm, is it normal for recount to go with a ~150kb increasing rate during a trash fight? i never really payed attention before o.O |
| 19:23.36 | durcyn | Torhal: i'm saying that every time they've done it, it's sucked, badl. |
| 19:23.39 | haste | I don't have my sarcasm hat on |
| 19:23.45 | durcyn | badly even |
| 19:23.47 | Torhal | durcyn: Hence, my sarcasm hat. |
| 19:23.54 | durcyn | oh. |
| 19:24.07 | durcyn | i was abused by a hat as a child, you see |
| 19:24.16 | Torhal | I blame Fisker- |
| 19:24.29 | Gnarfoz | durcyn is secretly attending Hogwart's School for Witchcraft and Wizardry, I take it, then |
| 19:24.46 | durcyn | well, it's not a secret anymore |
| 19:24.48 | LiGGe | Gnarfoz: but OpenGL is bad ;/ i cant use hardware mouse ^^ |
| 19:24.48 | durcyn | thanks. |
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| 19:25.38 | Primer | speaking of opengl, is there really any substantial difference between playing wow with opengl or directx in windows? |
| 19:26.02 | Primer | I'm pondering switching to opengl on windows so that when I rsync to my Linux box to play at work, all my UI elements are in the same place |
| 19:26.14 | Primer | because...they're not |
| 19:26.22 | nevcairiel | I think DX looks better |
| 19:26.23 | durcyn | opengl and d3d don't affect that, it's purely scale. |
| 19:26.33 | Primer | see, that's another thing then |
| 19:26.43 | Primer | because I rsync WTF and Interface/AddOns |
| 19:26.46 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: I'd think so since it collects heck of a lot of data |
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| 19:26.52 | Primer | yet, there are several things that are always different |
| 19:27.13 | VonhintenHOME` | device caps maybe |
| 19:27.15 | LiGGe | i cant see actionbuttons, cant use hardwaremouse, cant see minimap (only white) and more |
| 19:27.19 | ag` | afaik d3d gives more fps |
| 19:27.22 | Primer | both are nvidia |
| 19:27.35 | Primer | only thing is one is windows, the other Linux |
| 19:27.52 | ag` | at least you get more more fps when running wow under d3d than in OS X under OpenGL |
| 19:27.55 | Primer | different config.wtf's though, due to wine not liking certain things |
| 19:27.58 | Torhal | Same card, same monitor resolution? |
| 19:28.03 | ag` | but that could also be an issue with the OS X vid drivers |
| 19:28.11 | VonhintenHOME` | who knows what kind of differences you would see between OS's |
| 19:28.14 | nevcairiel | Primer: exactly the same ui scale? :) |
| 19:28.14 | Primer | Torhal: effectively, yet (same exact res) |
| 19:28.19 | VonhintenHOME` | especially if you're switching between DX and OGL |
| 19:28.21 | Primer | cards are 8000 series |
| 19:28.29 | Primer | nevcairiel: I'm checking that now |
| 19:28.37 | durcyn | uh, osx client is opengl only, what are you talking about |
| 19:28.48 | durcyn | comparing it to the win32 client is disingenuous at best |
| 19:28.55 | Primer | SET uiScale "1" |
| 19:28.59 | Primer | that's on the Linux box |
| 19:29.09 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm not comparing anything |
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| 19:29.33 | Primer | and it's not set in the window's Config.wtf |
| 19:30.30 | Primer | guess I'll have to query it in-game |
| 19:30.36 | Primer | over VNC, since I'm at work :) |
| 19:31.16 | LiGGe | so, anyone know whats problem on my booot? |
| 19:31.37 | VonhintenHOME` | where does wow keep patch downloaders on vista these days? |
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| 19:31.57 | Pneumatus | Users\Public\Documents\Blizzard Entertainment\World of Warcraft |
| 19:32.31 | VonhintenHOME` | got it, thx |
| 19:33.29 | VonhintenHOME` | Was hoping blizzard got smart and actually embedded the torrent as a resource, but no joy... |
| 19:34.10 | Gnarfoz | they don't want you to not use their downloader, obviously |
| 19:34.11 | NeoTron | I don't get why the stupid downloaded STILL doesn't have a limit to upload speed |
| 19:34.21 | durcyn | Primer: force it in a stub addon, then. |
| 19:34.22 | NeoTron | I have 2 Mbps up and it still fucks up my connection because it doesn't throttle |
| 19:34.40 | Primer | Use UI Scale is NOT checked on my windows box |
| 19:34.50 | VonhintenHOME` | Neo, exactly, it's moronic |
| 19:35.00 | Primer | durcyn: you lost me |
| 19:35.18 | Dezzi | People have been complaining about that long enough that blizzard should at least put in an automatic throttle |
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| 19:35.37 | Dezzimal | I can't see them putting in a manual one, because assholes love to enter in 1 KB/s |
| 19:36.08 | Aeyan | Set it to 80-90% would work just fine for me |
| 19:36.14 | Primer | hrmm, in windows I have "use windowed mode" + "maximized" set |
| 19:36.36 | Aeyan | 100% and I have trouble even reaching google.com, hehe |
| 19:36.38 | Primer | in wine I'm using Desktop mode, which is effectively the same thing, except that may not be explicitly set |
| 19:37.21 | Primer | In Linux I use devilspie to remove the wine window dressings and move it to +0+0 |
| 19:37.36 | Primer | maybe that's it |
| 19:38.04 | profalbert | omg how few instances can these servers take, it's full like everytime I want to enter one |
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| 19:38.24 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: \o/ |
| 19:38.44 | Gnarfoz | took us close to half an hour yesterday to spawn a malygos instance :( |
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| 19:43.45 | AckisWork | what's the best way to have a "first run" variable which gets reset everytime I submit a new version |
| 19:44.04 | AckisWork | i can do the first run easily, but not sure if there's a way for me to reset it during a patch |
| 19:44.15 | Gnarfoz | blizz patch is easy |
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| 19:44.28 | AckisWork | nah internal mod patch |
| 19:44.29 | Gnarfoz | you-patch requires you to think of bumping your version number |
| 19:44.37 | Pneumatus | store a version number in the SV, then if current version > saved version, do runonce |
| 19:44.51 | Gnarfoz | and to never forget, lest you want to commit "forgot to bump version" twice a week :p |
| 19:44.54 | Pneumatus | just dont save it in defaults |
| 19:45.22 | Mochito | ive got a small issue with closet gnome, i changes sets+stances trogh a macro |
| 19:45.47 | Mochito | which works just fine, but if i press the macro for berserker stance it puts on and of my weapons |
| 19:45.58 | AckisWork | if addonversion ~= addon.db.profile.version then do stuff; addon.db.profile.version = addonversion end basically? |
| 19:46.02 | Mochito | doesnt do that with def stance |
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| 19:46.33 | Pneumatus | AckisWork: yep |
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| 19:47.12 | Pneumatus | as long as you dont ever put 'version' in your defaults youll be fine |
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| 19:50.29 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal 043.0.9-1.2.2 * r78 : Tagging as 3.0.9-1.2.2 |
| 19:51.08 | fewyn | anyone know what demonic pact doesn't stack with? |
| 19:51.21 | durcyn | fewyn: elemental oath, improved divine spirit |
| 19:51.33 | fewyn | which would take precedent? |
| 19:51.46 | fewyn | trying to figure out if i want to go that deep into demo for it |
| 19:51.52 | durcyn | the highest spellpower value should always overwrite the others |
| 19:52.06 | fewyn | but which would that be? |
| 19:52.08 | durcyn | which would be pact once you're past 3000 spellpower from gear |
| 19:52.31 | durcyn | give or take, depending on whether it's still bugged with fel armor spirit-spellpower conversion |
| 19:54.14 | Primer | wtf, 3000 sp from gear!!? |
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| 19:54.51 | Primer | I'm at 2600 on my lock |
| 19:55.30 | Primer | I've gotten to 3700 sp with trinket procs |
| 19:55.41 | Primer | outside of a raid |
| 19:55.55 | Primer | in a raid I'm sure I've hit over 4k |
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| 19:57.21 | VonhintenHOME` | my buddy and I are leveling up mage and warlock... his lock has about 50% more spell power than I have, even though technically I have more SP on gear |
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| 19:58.12 | Primer | this one mage who I vaslty outgear out damages me on some figths |
| 19:58.18 | Primer | out-DAMAGE |
| 19:58.27 | Primer | not DPS (as recount DPS is entirely bogus) |
| 19:58.31 | Primer | (as we all know) |
| 19:58.41 | quiescens | um |
| 19:59.01 | quiescens | elemental oath is +5% spell crit o.o |
| 19:59.02 | Primer | it's bogus |
| 19:59.24 | Primer | but isn't demonic pact a proc? |
| 19:59.33 | Primer | whereas |
| 19:59.34 | Primer | err |
| 19:59.38 | Primer | I guess the other is a proc too? |
| 19:59.45 | Primer | shouldn't procs stack? |
| 19:59.52 | quiescens | whereas demonic pact is bonus to spell power |
| 20:00.04 | quiescens | elemental oath is in the same line as moonkin aura |
| 20:00.05 | Primer | ahh good point |
| 20:00.26 | quiescens | silleh primer |
| 20:00.28 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1524 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 20:00.31 | Repo | Add a toggle to determine if you show pop-ups for missing recipes. They'll always show for the first run after a patch however. (Ticket 377) |
| 20:01.09 | Primer | Ackis, btw, do you plan on implementing my request in IHML? I got owned again the other day because of it |
| 20:02.19 | Primer | http://www.wowace.com/projects/ihml/tickets/10-please-add-detection-of-targetting-a-player-of-the/ |
| 20:02.39 | Stanzilla | AckisWork: why does ARL install this Download Count thing? |
| 20:02.40 | Primer | I was slamming my IHML key, hoping for Guardian Spirit...and it never happened |
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| 20:10.07 | Pneumatus | PTR client needs to stop #132ing :< |
| 20:10.11 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1525 RecipeDB (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 20:10.14 | Repo | Fix a few recipes which had a seasonal flag and a vendor flag. This caused the recipes to show up even if the seasonal flag was turned off. (Ticket 389). |
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| 20:12.41 | AckisWork | Stanzilla: it shouldn't |
| 20:12.56 | AckisWork | Primer: yes, I just don't have the time, let me get arl tickets dealt with and i'll see about it |
| 20:13.01 | Stanzilla | AckisWork: but it does. .pkgmeta ignore? |
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| 20:15.02 | Primer | AckisWork: thanks |
| 20:15.03 | AckisWork | Stanzilla: it's not even in the latest .pkgmeta |
| 20:15.14 | Stanzilla | AckisWork: nice, fix plx :D |
| 20:15.29 | AckisWork | there's nothing to fix? |
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| 20:16.30 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1526 ARLFrame.lua: |
| 20:16.33 | Repo | Add some more debug info for the case where your recipes aren't displayed and we don't know why. (Ticket 390) |
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| 20:17.09 | TranceControl | Hey guys :D |
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| 20:17.36 | TranceControl | im looking for an achievement addon, if possible that can track my progress with the achievements .. instead of the normal Blizz tracker :S |
| 20:17.55 | Stanzilla | AckisWork: Curse Client downloads it |
| 20:18.19 | AckisWork | Stanzilla: CC is a keylogger right Kaelten? |
| 20:18.44 | Stanzilla | the question is, why does it? |
| 20:18.50 | AckisWork | no cliue |
| 20:19.03 | Stanzilla | Kaelten: to the rescue! |
| 20:19.06 | NeoTron | I think it'd be possible to detect the point where the latency starts to suffer and then dial down the up speed until it no longer is affected |
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| 20:19.48 | AckisWork | Stanzilla: what version are you running? |
| 20:20.08 | Stanzilla | AckisWork: alpha + nolib |
| 20:20.24 | AckisWork | try a full reinstall? |
| 20:20.37 | AckisWork | reformat your computer |
| 20:20.42 | AckisWork | delete your wtf and interface folders |
| 20:20.49 | Stanzilla | fuck you |
| 20:21.03 | AckisWork | :P |
| 20:21.10 | AckisWork | it's not listed as a dependancy |
| 20:21.14 | AckisWork | so something is wrong |
| 20:21.30 | Stanzilla | I just uninstalled download count, reinstalled ARL and its gone now |
| 20:21.39 | Stanzilla | still weird |
| 20:21.43 | AckisWork | ah |
| 20:21.47 | AckisWork | it got installed when you did nolibs |
| 20:21.56 | AckisWork | and when I removed the dep, it never got uninstalled |
| 20:22.08 | Stanzilla | probably |
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| 20:25.06 | AckisWork | ~wowspell 11468 |
| 20:25.07 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=11468 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=11468 |
| 20:26.08 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1527 RecipeDB/ARL-Alchemy.lua: Fix flags on Elixir of Dream Vision (Ticket 394) |
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| 20:27.23 | Torhal | TranceControl: Overachiever |
| 20:28.21 | TranceControl | Torhal where can that be found?. |
| 20:28.49 | Gnarfoz | both on curse and on wowi, IIRC |
| 20:30.30 | Iboong | !ping |
| 20:30.33 | TranceControl | ah found it :D |
| 20:32.34 | Repo | 10prescription: 03Starinnia * r95 / (2 files in 1 directory): tweak message printed when a check is called during combat |
| 20:32.58 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1528 ARLFrame.lua: |
| 20:33.00 | Repo | If you're filtering factions don't show opposite factions on the world map (This will probably blow up but meh). (Ticket 396) |
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| 20:38.57 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1529 RecipeDB/ARL-Inscription.lua: |
| 20:39.00 | Repo | Fix issue with glpyh of obliterate not having a class flag so it would not display. (Ticket 398) |
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| 20:42.15 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1530 RecipeDB/ARL-Engineer.lua: |
| 20:42.18 | Repo | Fix flags with Titanium Toolbox which may have caused it to not display. (Ticket 380) |
| 20:48.16 | NeoTron | I wonder if imp unholy prescence is useful for unholy spec |
| 20:48.26 | NeoTron | if the 9s rune refresh actually makes it worth more than 15% dmg |
| 20:49.12 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1531 / (5 files in 3 directories): Add more documentation and update existing documentation. |
| 20:51.58 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1532 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fix links with the documentation |
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| 20:53.37 | Pneumatus | heh, IceHUD causes the PTR client to crash with an assertation error |
| 20:56.14 | AckisWork | @project arl |
| 20:56.16 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Jim-Bim (Author), Zhinjio (Author), Elkano (Tester), ananhaid (Translator), andy52005 (Translator), Dessa (Translator), Pettigrow (Translator), Pneumatus (Translator), Primaxina (Translator), Swix (Translator). Updated: 7 seconds ago. Tickets: 5/398 |
| 20:56.22 | AckisWork | 5 retarded tickets |
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| 21:10.30 | Pneumatus | you have to wonder if blizz even ran the PTR client for more than 5 seconds before releasing it :o |
| 21:11.41 | steev | shh |
| 21:11.51 | steev | don't talk bad about our gods or they will smite us |
| 21:12.15 | NivFreak | Pneumatus: that bad? |
| 21:12.28 | Pneumatus | the client is crashing every time i try and do anything |
| 21:12.29 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: srsly. |
| 21:12.40 | Gnarfoz | move: crash. target someone: crash |
| 21:12.41 | Gnarfoz | login: crash |
| 21:12.50 | Pneumatus | dualspec is a complete failure as well |
| 21:12.58 | Pneumatus | log out and your talents + glyphs all dissapear |
| 21:13.04 | NivFreak | lol |
| 21:13.28 | NeoTron | To copy wowuidev - it's a Stress Test as per this: http://www.clichequest.com/index.php?pos=340 |
| 21:13.36 | Pneumatus | not even gonna bother trying to use it till they release another patch |
| 21:14.52 | NivFreak | I need to go drain the gbank and then queue a copy |
| 21:14.58 | NivFreak | but it seems the copy is still horked |
| 21:15.15 | Gnarfoz | copy early, crash early |
| 21:15.19 | Jaxon | ARL has to be the most updated addon on Wowace |
| 21:15.20 | Gnarfoz | you're not missing out |
| 21:15.46 | durcyn | Jaxon: just further proof that quantity =/= quality ;) |
| 21:16.15 | Jaxon | durcyn: I like ARL, it just sucks that the model requires such frequent updates to the internal lists. |
| 21:16.30 | Pneumatus | it doesnt |
| 21:16.34 | Pneumatus | it just needs to be made accurate once |
| 21:16.36 | Pneumatus | then its finished |
| 21:16.37 | Xinhuan | Jaxon, if properly done, it only requires one update per patch |
| 21:16.42 | Pneumatus | its just not accurate :P |
| 21:16.44 | Xinhuan | unfortunately it isn't |
| 21:16.46 | Jaxon | Maybe AckisWork *COUGH* should leave it alone for a week and do other stuff. |
| 21:18.10 | Pneumatus | checking every recipie is correct manually is a lot of work though, it would be easier to re-start from scratch |
| 21:18.45 | Xinhuan | except Pneumatus, it is a one-time process |
| 21:18.49 | Gnarfoz | yum |
| 21:18.51 | Xinhuan | check it once - done |
| 21:19.02 | Xinhuan | there's barely 20 new recipes per patch |
| 21:19.06 | Pneumatus | im not disagreeing :P |
| 21:19.07 | Xinhuan | takes hardly more than like 1 hour |
| 21:19.31 | Gnarfoz | http://paste.wowace.com/300/ ptr sucks |
| 21:19.45 | Pneumatus | ive given up Gnarfoz |
| 21:20.01 | Gnarfoz | that was adjusting video quality :p |
| 21:20.05 | Pneumatus | ill wait for the next client patch, because its unusable at present |
| 21:20.10 | Jaxon | Gnarfoz: don't do that. |
| 21:20.15 | Jaxon | Gnarfoz: really, just open it and stare. |
| 21:20.28 | Gnarfoz | Jaxon: I was adjusting downwards! :D |
| 21:21.15 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03LCF_HeLL * r4986 Northrend/Sartharion.lua: BigWigs: ruRU update |
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| 21:25.41 | Speeddymon | Kaelten: you here? |
| 21:25.58 | Repo | 10surgeon-general: 03Brimmstone * r41 SurgeonGeneral.lua: |
| 21:26.01 | Repo | Added initial support for parsing MainTank info from oRA2 & CTRaid |
| 21:26.32 | evl | Is there anything like ClearAttribute? |
| 21:26.40 | evl | or can I simply pass nil to SetAttribute? |
| 21:26.59 | Xinhuan | pass nil to setattribute |
| 21:27.02 | Xinhuan | (or pass nothing) |
| 21:29.25 | AckisWork | Jaxon: I actually didn't touch it for a week, and just resolved some tickets with recipes today... all the data for recipes is accurate it's the fact that there's over 100 different filter flags which adds complexity to the mod, and durcyn just don't even use the mod please, and then you can stfu about it and I don't have to hear your damned bitching anymore, in fact uninstall anything that I've developed if you have it on your PC |
| 21:30.22 | Jaxon | AckisWork: I wasn't really complaining about it, just that I always noticed it updated when I checked thelist while I was at work here :P |
| 21:30.26 | Jaxon | WELL FINE |
| 21:30.34 | Gngsk | he took his ball and went home |
| 21:31.00 | Speeddymon | ugh addons developed in linux, not working in linux but working in windows, wtf |
| 21:31.31 | Gngsk | clearly an issue with line endings |
| 21:31.39 | thul | http://fc64.deviantart.com/fs41/f/2009/055/0/a/Afro_Disco_by_rust2d.jpg <- ohai (nsfw) |
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| 21:34.23 | Mochito | ppl is it possible that closetgnome bugs when you use 2x2hweapon? (TG) |
| 21:34.38 | vhaarr | Mochito: what are you switching from? |
| 21:34.42 | Mochito | def |
| 21:34.50 | vhaarr | shield? ye it can bug then |
| 21:34.56 | Mochito | =/ |
| 21:34.59 | Mochito | any idea? |
| 21:35.27 | vhaarr | it's an old bug, I never bothered to fix it |
| 21:35.28 | Mochito | it sucks when i have to change stance having only 1 or no weapon equipped |
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| 21:35.43 | vhaarr | and with 3.1 giving us gear management, I won't be doing it |
| 21:36.07 | Mochito | i get that |
| 21:36.17 | Stanzilla | vhaarr: end of life for CG with 3.1? |
| 21:36.18 | Mochito | still i wonder how its gonna be like |
| 21:36.26 | vhaarr | Stanzilla: nah we'll see what blizzard gives us |
| 21:36.37 | vhaarr | Stanzilla: I'll probably hook into it to retain CG's function set |
| 21:36.57 | Stanzilla | kk |
| 21:37.08 | ramoz | thul: very dirt! |
| 21:37.42 | nevcairiel | The Blizzard thing is pretty nice, could use some polish on the UI end and a LDB plugin, and its done =P |
| 21:37.51 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: and my quips! |
| 21:37.56 | durcyn | the only bug i've seen is with prismatic gems |
| 21:37.57 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: can you get on 3.1 PTRs? |
| 21:37.59 | nevcairiel | screw those, i turn them off |
| 21:38.08 | vhaarr | I can't get the PTR page to load |
| 21:38.10 | vhaarr | so I can't download it |
| 21:38.21 | nevcairiel | worked fine for me |
| 21:38.34 | nevcairiel | also, http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ get the fiels from there |
| 21:38.35 | vhaarr | well I tried this morning and it didn't load |
| 21:38.38 | vhaarr | just got home from work |
| 21:38.40 | vhaarr | and it still doesn't load |
| 21:38.41 | vhaarr | alright cool |
| 21:38.57 | nevcairiel | has the original blizzard torrent or some direct download through the coral network |
| 21:39.47 | vhaarr | sweet, thanks nev |
| 21:40.12 | nevcairiel | turning off slots in the blizz thingy is still a bit weird, but that would be easy to just "fix" with a small addon :) |
| 21:40.22 | nevcairiel | and its only their first iteration, has soem gfx bugs too |
| 21:40.41 | vhaarr | ye like I said I'll replace what I can in CG with their stuff |
| 21:40.49 | vhaarr | I'll try to keep it as close to what it is now as possible |
| 21:41.30 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 21:41.35 | nevcairiel | I like how you can assign icons to your sets |
| 21:41.38 | NivFreak | is it me, or is the PTR downloader pulling 3.0.1... |
| 21:41.46 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: it is, and its correct |
| 21:41.57 | nevcairiel | 3.0.1 is the base for all upcoming PTRs |
| 21:42.02 | NivFreak | ah |
| 21:42.05 | nevcairiel | once thats done, you get a patch |
| 21:42.07 | nevcairiel | to 3.1.0 |
| 21:42.09 | NivFreak | ok |
| 21:42.11 | NivFreak | fair enough |
| 21:42.12 | nevcairiel | or rather, 0.1.0 |
| 21:44.02 | Kaelten | Speeddymon: pong |
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| 21:59.13 | Repo | 10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r81 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 21:59.16 | Repo | Added a basic menu on shift-clicking the window header. Has a limited report option. |
| 21:59.51 | Repo | 10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r82 modules/SkadaDeaths/Deaths.lua: Fixed silly error in death log. |
| 22:02.36 | NeoTron | so did they remove the inscription "reagent" for changing between dual specs? |
| 22:02.39 | NeoTron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15198918444&pageNo=1&sid=1#11 |
| 22:03.44 | nevcairiel | And i was wondering why i could change it in the middle for darnassus |
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| 22:03.48 | nevcairiel | i just blamed it on "not done" |
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| 22:03.54 | Hjalte | NeoTron: At the moment, it doesn't cost anything and you can do it everywhere :) |
| 22:04.14 | Zyndrome | that's the initial impression we got |
| 22:04.15 | nevcairiel | The blue post hints that it will stay that way |
| 22:05.03 | nevcairiel | thats pretty cool though |
| 22:05.17 | nevcairiel | guess i'll have to carry my gear with me all the time hough |
| 22:05.19 | NeoTron | yeah |
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| 22:05.29 | NeoTron | I like it a lot |
| 22:05.43 | NeoTron | good for healers and tanks for raiding since you can swap whenever needed |
| 22:06.00 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 22:06.04 | nevcairiel | just go dps on trash |
| 22:06.05 | nevcairiel | yay |
| 22:06.05 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 22:06.37 | Tristanian | trigger happy nev |
| 22:06.39 | Tristanian | :p |
| 22:06.46 | NeoTron | will scuk too primarily for tanks/ots |
| 22:06.51 | NeoTron | need to gear up for both dps and tanking :P |
| 22:07.13 | NeoTron | of course I bet for trash my t7.5 gear will work fine until the tanks are geared up, especially since we have just one plate tank |
| 22:07.24 | Tristanian | hmm, you haven't been carrying with you all sets of gear ? :p |
| 22:07.42 | nevcairiel | I usually only carry my healing gear |
| 22:07.50 | Tristanian | :o |
| 22:07.52 | nevcairiel | when i respec, i have time to visit the bank too |
| 22:08.06 | nevcairiel | its rather pointless to wear feral gear in healer spec, imho :P |
| 22:08.11 | Tristanian | well true |
| 22:08.25 | Tristanian | have been carrying 3 sets of gear in my bags since...um MC |
| 22:08.33 | Tristanian | old habits die hard I guess |
| 22:08.44 | NivFreak | I usually only carry 2 sets of gear on my hybrids |
| 22:08.52 | NivFreak | basically, a support role + dps |
| 22:09.01 | nevcairiel | My DK and warrior carry DPS and Tank |
| 22:09.05 | NivFreak | yea |
| 22:09.09 | Tristanian | yeah makes sense |
| 22:09.13 | NivFreak | my warrior and pally do the same |
| 22:09.19 | nevcairiel | (I play two plate melees, both as tanks, weird <.<) |
| 22:09.37 | NivFreak | DKs seem like they lend themselves to being tanks pretty easily |
| 22:09.38 | Tristanian | spec one DPS then ! |
| 22:09.46 | NivFreak | it looks like the rotations don't even change that much? |
| 22:09.48 | nevcairiel | i don't like dpsing |
| 22:09.50 | nevcairiel | its boring |
| 22:10.02 | NivFreak | yea, I'm not a big DPS fan either |
| 22:10.08 | NivFreak | but I usually do well when I dps |
| 22:10.42 | NivFreak | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/15230879467-dual-spec-level-reduced-to-40.html |
| 22:10.44 | NivFreak | lvl 40 now? |
| 22:10.44 | NivFreak | lol |
| 22:10.57 | nevcairiel | was in the other blue post too |
| 22:11.02 | Tristanian | they are probably gonna change it again |
| 22:11.16 | NivFreak | I hope not |
| 22:11.22 | Tristanian | situation is rather fluid, most notes are pointless right now |
| 22:11.23 | NivFreak | I really would love to have it on my leveling toons |
| 22:11.24 | Tristanian | too early |
| 22:11.37 | steev | when doing playerclass is it DEATHKNIGHT or DEATH KNIGHT |
| 22:11.39 | NivFreak | and it really shouldn't have any cost :) |
| 22:11.58 | nevcairiel | 1000g on a toon i'm not even sure will make it to 80 .. eh i dunno |
| 22:12.14 | NivFreak | yea |
| 22:12.18 | NivFreak | that's my point |
| 22:12.19 | NeoTron | NivFreak: for me the rotations really don't change much (unholy). Main difference is taht UB/DC are hard to use while tanking due to Rune Strike |
| 22:12.24 | NivFreak | I have a druid who is lvl 64 |
| 22:12.26 | Jaxon | Having a 1000g buy-in on a character for someone that is new to the game isn't very likely. |
| 22:12.27 | NivFreak | he wasn't 60 until wrath |
| 22:12.36 | NivFreak | but I've had him long enough that he has a Scout title |
| 22:12.38 | Tristanian | well considering the respec costs, I find it rather reasonable |
| 22:12.48 | nevcairiel | it is |
| 22:12.49 | steev | considering respec costs? |
| 22:12.54 | steev | fuck yo respec costs |
| 22:12.59 | nevcairiel | but you don't really need it for levelign toons |
| 22:13.07 | Tristanian | not really no |
| 22:13.11 | Jaxon | Tristanian: someone isn't going to rack up 1000g in respec costs before they hit 80. |
| 22:13.21 | NivFreak | and plus |
| 22:13.22 | steev | << did |
| 22:13.26 | Tristanian | they shouldn't need it before 80 |
| 22:13.26 | NivFreak | my respec costs are so incredibly low |
| 22:13.28 | Jaxon | Someone who is new to the game and potentially "overwhelmed" by options isn't going to have 1000g at 40 anyways. |
| 22:13.33 | Tristanian | so they dont get it |
| 22:13.33 | NivFreak | It would take me a year to pay off 1000G in respecs |
| 22:13.34 | steev | NivFreak: i r jealous |
| 22:13.37 | Tristanian | I dont see the problem |
| 22:13.37 | NeoTron | I'm close to 2000g on my DK |
| 22:13.43 | NivFreak | <-- prot warrior |
| 22:13.50 | nevcairiel | I'm on 900 on my druid now |
| 22:13.50 | NivFreak | like I ever get to respec |
| 22:13.55 | steev | i've got 79 respecs |
| 22:14.00 | steev | 3666g spent |
| 22:14.05 | Xinhuan | the convenience is on being able to respec _ANYWHERE_ |
| 22:14.11 | NivFreak | oddly, I'm fury today |
| 22:14.11 | NivFreak | lol |
| 22:14.13 | Xinhuan | without requiring to hearth/reglyph |
| 22:14.18 | Xinhuan | and then a resummon |
| 22:14.21 | Xinhuan | and possible misclicks |
| 22:14.21 | NeoTron | it's a huge bonus |
| 22:14.23 | NivFreak | mostly because I wanted to stand around in org with 2xarmmageddon on |
| 22:14.31 | NeoTron | not only that but also action bars |
| 22:14.51 | steev | shit, whats the DK taunt called? |
| 22:15.12 | NivFreak | Talent tree respecs 11 |
| 22:15.14 | NivFreak | YEAH |
| 22:15.23 | steev | that is exactly 11 more than our prot warrior |
| 22:15.26 | NivFreak | and 7 of those are probably tweaking my prot spec |
| 22:16.01 | steev | Xinhuan: Talented... if I didn't have talented, I'd probably be at 1/2 the respecs im at now |
| 22:16.06 | steev | maybe even 1/4 |
| 22:16.40 | End | not having to set up bars is nice too, although there are addons that can automate that |
| 22:16.52 | sylvanaar | is the ptr downloader available? |
| 22:17.03 | Tristanian | seems so |
| 22:17.17 | sylvanaar | it still says 3.0.1 |
| 22:17.26 | End | try to log in |
| 22:17.35 | End | it'll start grabbing newer patch versions |
| 22:17.42 | Stanzilla | sylvanaar: run the launcher |
| 22:17.45 | sylvanaar | ag |
| 22:17.48 | Stanzilla | you get patches after you installed 3.0.1 |
| 22:17.53 | Tristanian | yup |
| 22:18.02 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 22:18.09 | NivFreak | steev: link your prot warriors armory |
| 22:18.12 | Tristanian | or download the patcher |
| 22:18.19 | End | yeah, you'll probably not want to uninstall your ptr client anymore |
| 22:18.38 | Tristanian | I already regretted it, 893 megs to download now |
| 22:18.40 | Tristanian | :P |
| 22:18.57 | selckin | 0.1.0 or something it tries to download, that can't be right |
| 22:19.05 | Xinhuan | that is correct |
| 22:19.32 | Xinhuan | patch 3.1 is patch 0.1 |
| 22:19.37 | Tristanian | 0.1.0 and I believe its build 9614 |
| 22:19.40 | Tristanian | or something |
| 22:19.47 | steev | NivFreak: blahblahblah.com/server=Draka?name=Nulkero |
| 22:19.57 | steev | NivFreak: no, srsly, lemme go grab it |
| 22:20.02 | NivFreak | and just because I love this pic, raid training tips from my arms warrior: |
| 22:20.06 | NivFreak | http://casualcorps.com/pics/fun/Trout-notes.jpg |
| 22:20.12 | steev | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Draka&n=Nulkero |
| 22:20.18 | steev | NivFreak: please don't laugh too hard :( |
| 22:20.23 | steev | we've tried, god knows we have |
| 22:20.24 | evl | Gah |
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| 22:20.34 | NivFreak | lol |
| 22:20.45 | evl | why doesn't self:SetAttribute("unit", "player") work after UNIT_EXITED_VEHICLE? :( |
| 22:20.48 | steev | bastard refuses to get enchants done to items "they aren't good enough to get xxxx enchant done to them" |
| 22:20.58 | NivFreak | replace him |
| 22:21.07 | steev | NivFreak: why do you think i have 79 respecs? |
| 22:21.27 | NivFreak | his spec is.... |
| 22:21.32 | End | evl: in combat? |
| 22:21.34 | NivFreak | I mean ... |
| 22:21.36 | evl | no outside |
| 22:21.36 | NivFreak | dude |
| 22:21.45 | NivFreak | I don't even know what to say? |
| 22:21.46 | End | I dunno |
| 22:21.50 | NivFreak | this guy needs to respec |
| 22:22.03 | NivFreak | that 0 respec counter is there because he doesn't know what he's doing |
| 22:22.20 | steev | NivFreak: quite possibly |
| 22:22.29 | NivFreak | no |
| 22:22.29 | Arrowmaster | anybody else having issues with the armory? |
| 22:22.32 | NivFreak | for sure |
| 22:22.48 | NivFreak | want me to rip that spec apart? |
| 22:22.58 | NivFreak | I mean... no toughness? |
| 22:22.59 | NivFreak | wtf |
| 22:23.10 | NivFreak | 10% armor doesn't matter to him I guess? |
| 22:23.17 | nevcairiel | If your tough at heart, you don't need it in spec! |
| 22:23.22 | NivFreak | puncture? |
| 22:23.31 | NivFreak | his rotation must be a disaster |
| 22:23.49 | steev | NivFreak: i've no idea man, i've never played a warrior past level 16 |
| 22:23.50 | NivFreak | no armored to the teeth |
| 22:23.50 | NivFreak | lol |
| 22:23.55 | NivFreak | anger management |
| 22:23.55 | NivFreak | lol |
| 22:24.08 | NivFreak | tactical mastery... |
| 22:24.26 | steev | NivFreak: write it up, and send it to me in a privmsg - i have no idea how to approach him saying, your spec sucks for tanking and this is why... |
| 22:24.37 | steev | like i said - i've never played a warrior |
| 22:24.42 | NivFreak | send him to EJ |
| 22:24.47 | NivFreak | they know enough to get started |
| 22:24.50 | Arrowmaster | what the hell, http://www.wowarmory.com/strings/en_us/strings.xml just ends on line 1251 for me so nothing on the armory will display properly |
| 22:24.52 | NivFreak | or tankspot |
| 22:24.59 | NivFreak | or hell ANYWHERE |
| 22:25.00 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 22:25.03 | Gnarfoz | you can keybind the "right click an NPC" functionality now, yay! for target and for mouseover :D |
| 22:25.22 | NivFreak | as for gear, it just looks like he hasn't raided at all |
| 22:25.23 | End | Arrowmaster: I had it load incorrectly once for me last night |
| 22:25.27 | End | but then I forced a reload |
| 22:25.31 | End | and it worked fine after that |
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| 22:25.53 | NivFreak | a raid boss will crit him |
| 22:26.02 | NivFreak | so he can't MT anything past heroics |
| 22:26.20 | steev | NivFreak: with a flask he can |
| 22:26.27 | steev | but yes - as i said |
| 22:26.28 | NivFreak | a TBC flask I suppose |
| 22:26.34 | steev | he won't fcking take enchants |
| 22:26.46 | NivFreak | well here's the funny part |
| 22:26.48 | steev | if he'd just get his damn chest enchanted with defense he'd be pretty damn close |
| 22:26.49 | NivFreak | he has 275 health to chest |
| 22:26.51 | NivFreak | which is fairly spend |
| 22:26.54 | NivFreak | spendy* |
| 22:26.59 | NivFreak | but he could do 22 def to chest... |
| 22:27.01 | steev | his wife has enchanting |
| 22:27.06 | steev | but shes not maxed |
| 22:27.15 | steev | so he won't let anyone else do his enchants see |
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| 22:27.33 | steev | and im like ffs, think of the damn healers |
| 22:27.51 | steev | i don't care if you have to go pay 500g in IF to some random level 12 for the damn enchant, get it done |
| 22:28.10 | NivFreak | I take it you guys are a total casual guild |
| 22:28.16 | steev | sadly |
| 22:28.27 | NivFreak | we raid 6-7 hours a week |
| 22:28.31 | NivFreak | but take it seriously |
| 22:28.43 | steev | we raid.... 3 days a week |
| 22:28.48 | NivFreak | and with that amount of time we've cleared s3d10 and s3d25 |
| 22:28.55 | NivFreak | yea, this is 2 nights a week for us |
| 22:28.59 | NivFreak | 3-3.5 hour raids |
| 22:29.05 | steev | im on a different server in a guild thats #8 on the server |
| 22:29.13 | Pneumatus | 3 days a week, thats like 2 more than the amount of content there is :o |
| 22:29.14 | NivFreak | low pop ouch |
| 22:29.15 | NivFreak | RP? |
| 22:29.31 | NivFreak | yea, we can clear naxx+s3d+maly in ~3.5 hours |
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| 22:29.49 | NivFreak | we use day 2 for achievements |
| 22:29.50 | steev | NivFreak: no no |
| 22:29.53 | NivFreak | mostly 10man stuff now |
| 22:29.57 | steev | i meant - i play on 2 different servers |
| 22:29.58 | NivFreak | getting people s3d10 |
| 22:30.02 | steev | we are 69th in the guild with nulk |
| 22:30.10 | NivFreak | steev: oh I see |
| 22:30.15 | steev | im in Cataclysm on Galakrond as well |
| 22:30.23 | steev | but im not 80 over there though they keep pushing me to level |
| 22:30.28 | steev | im almost 75 :( |
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| 22:31.04 | Pneumatus | ive cleared 25man and 10 man content twice over this week :o |
| 22:31.21 | steev | NivFreak: http://www.wowjutsu.com/us/draka/ |
| 22:31.27 | NivFreak | yea, I've been doing a fair amount of overlap with my ret pally now too |
| 22:31.28 | steev | #1 - former guildies of mine |
| 22:31.31 | NivFreak | I'm fairly burnt out |
| 22:31.41 | steev | #17 - former guildies of mine |
| 22:31.48 | steev | #23 - bunch of people who split from our guild |
| 22:31.51 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 22:31.58 | steev | the people who wanted to raid every fscking night |
| 22:32.11 | steev | #69 - thats us |
| 22:32.20 | steev | and im damn proud of that 69 damn it |
| 22:33.21 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha1-43-g107bbfb / (2 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 22:33.23 | steev | but i've been on raids with #1 and #17 and #23 - just because I was one of the first 80s on our server - not a server first, but I was still pretty close |
| 22:33.25 | Repo | 107bbfb: Update documentation |
| 22:33.28 | Repo | d61d9eb: Make the printout display acquire info, in a human format. |
| 22:33.30 | Repo | 4ef8ff5: Fix tailoring ID |
| 22:37.05 | steev | NivFreak: and i can't really talk too much - I'm a tank and i didn't bother taking 5% dodge |
| 22:37.24 | steev | still easier to heal me than it is to heal our warrior though ;) |
| 22:44.08 | fewyn | anyone in here went to blizzcon last year? |
| 22:44.29 | NeoTron | Tired: wowjutsu, Wired: WowProgress |
| 22:45.08 | NivFreak | steev: DK? |
| 22:46.59 | steev | NivFreak: yeah |
| 22:47.16 | NeoTron | and a warrior that fails to be uncrittable is pretty impressive |
| 22:48.33 | NivFreak | almost as bad as a DK who fails to reach uncritable |
| 22:48.36 | NivFreak | :P |
| 22:48.57 | Primer | What do those hex commit strings mean? |
| 22:49.13 | steev | NivFreak: i'd say its worse for a DK to be uncrittable |
| 22:49.27 | steev | Primer: git commits |
| 22:49.41 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: now that is true. before it was a lot harder for a DK than a warrior |
| 22:49.42 | Primer | but why are they prefaced with hex strings? |
| 22:49.48 | NeoTron | NivFreak even |
| 22:49.59 | steev | because you can have multiple commits in a push |
| 22:50.05 | NeoTron | Primer: it's git |
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| 22:50.24 | Primer | "It's git" doesn't answer my question |
| 22:50.33 | NivFreak | steev: you'd be wrong |
| 22:50.33 | Xeross | Hey Guys i keep having errors in agUF |
| 22:50.36 | NeoTron | it's the change id |
| 22:50.37 | steev | make change; commit; make change; commit; back out commit, make different change; commit; push |
| 22:50.55 | steev | NeoTron: which doesn't happen without a commit |
| 22:51.05 | NeoTron | right |
| 22:51.05 | NivFreak | NeoTron: the defense rune makes it rather trivial to be uncrittable |
| 22:51.16 | NivFreak | you won't find a weapon/shield combo that will net you 25 defense skill |
| 22:51.23 | NeoTron | thus "now" |
| 22:51.26 | NivFreak | correct |
| 22:51.27 | Xinhuan | primer correct answer: git doesn't use revision numbers to name commits. it does a hex checksum on the entire commit, and uses it as the commit name/id |
| 22:51.31 | NeoTron | and thus "not before" |
| 22:51.33 | steev | weapon/shield/ranged you mean |
| 22:51.38 | NivFreak | warriors/paladins have it the worst atm |
| 22:51.39 | steev | since that rune covers all 3 slots |
| 22:51.42 | Primer | Xinhuan: thanks |
| 22:51.42 | NivFreak | and it's far from difficult |
| 22:51.52 | NivFreak | steev: yep |
| 22:52.00 | Xinhuan | since the hex checksum is cryptographically strong, it also ensures that the contents of the commit is correct for a given commit |
| 22:52.03 | steev | granted they finally gave us a defense relic |
| 22:52.04 | NeoTron | steev: except for the fact that there's a "ranged" slot that gives defense too |
| 22:52.08 | Xinhuan | and it is relatively unique |
| 22:52.24 | NivFreak | the relic is a proc though isn't it? |
| 22:52.24 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha1-46-gee256d2 Collectinator.lua: [+3 commits] |
| 22:52.27 | Repo | ee256d2: Start using the playerData variable and passing it around to clean code up. |
| 22:52.30 | Xinhuan | here, the commit name Alpha1-43-g107bbfb means that is is the 43rd commit from the last alpha tag |
| 22:52.30 | Repo | 76ffdc0: Optimize the filtering code a bit |
| 22:52.33 | Repo | e6eec7b: Print out the rep level and vendor as well. |
| 22:52.35 | steev | NeoTron: now there is |
| 22:52.42 | NivFreak | all that matters is now :P |
| 22:52.42 | Xinhuan | and the id of the commit is g107bbfb |
| 22:52.43 | NeoTron | a string of the length 4ef8ff5 has to have a chance of getting a conflict. how does git handle that? |
| 22:52.47 | NeoTron | longer strings? |
| 22:52.54 | Xinhuan | the string is actually 32 long |
| 22:52.58 | NeoTron | NivFreak: 100% prod, long duration |
| 22:53.03 | Xinhuan | Repo is just listing the first 8 letters |
| 22:53.06 | steev | NeoTron: those are shortened |
| 22:53.09 | NeoTron | NivFreak: it's as good as guaranteed up |
| 22:53.11 | NeoTron | ok |
| 22:53.24 | steev | commit 25145f35ab527a2219604e1710eb65e2178f6978 |
| 22:53.28 | Xinhuan | as they are unique, specifying the first 2-3 letters of a commit ID is sufficient to uniquely identify a commit |
| 22:53.34 | steev | thats what a commit ID normally looks like |
| 22:53.42 | Xeross | Are we discussing GIT ? |
| 22:53.51 | steev | and tanking |
| 22:53.54 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 22:53.58 | steev | and how much easier DKs have it now than Warriors |
| 22:54.21 | Xeross | Git Owns, |
| 22:54.27 | NivFreak | I wouldn't trade my prot warrior for any other tank class/spec |
| 22:54.43 | NivFreak | but I would like a couple of improvements |
| 22:54.44 | steev | NivFreak: i'd rather be dpsing |
| 22:54.46 | Xeross | that , should've been a . |
| 22:54.51 | steev | but since nulk refuses to get uncrittable |
| 22:55.00 | steev | i get to tank whenever he's not around |
| 22:55.03 | Xeross | steev: I also rather be dps but no one wants a warr dps |
| 22:55.04 | steev | and he's on the west coast |
| 22:55.07 | NivFreak | steev: my 3rd tank is a DK, I have him run a largely dps focused build |
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| 22:55.36 | steev | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Draka&n=Steev |
| 22:55.41 | NeoTron | steev: I assume your guild is so casual it doesn't mind complete and utter fail players? :P |
| 22:55.48 | steev | i still push over 2k dps |
| 22:55.53 | NivFreak | NeoTron: did you look at that armory? :P |
| 22:55.56 | NeoTron | because that dude really is fail on a large degree |
| 22:55.56 | steev | NeoTron: eh, its more a friendly guild than anything |
| 22:55.58 | NeoTron | I did |
| 22:56.21 | NivFreak | I once was in a casual guild that tried to raid |
| 22:56.29 | NivFreak | it was maddening |
| 22:56.31 | steev | we stopped raiding at 3.0.2 |
| 22:56.36 | steev | thats when Unlimited split off |
| 22:56.58 | steev | whatever patch that was that you just step into the instance and the bosses dropped their loot |
| 22:57.36 | NivFreak | so with the way dual specs are on the PTR atm |
| 22:57.44 | NivFreak | a NE druid could Shadow meld out, and change specs |
| 22:57.45 | NivFreak | lol |
| 22:58.00 | nevcairiel | if you get a 5s cast |
| 22:58.03 | nevcairiel | done |
| 22:58.03 | Xinhuan | except that you remain in combat if you are in a boss fight |
| 22:58.09 | Xinhuan | and it has a 5 sec cast time |
| 22:58.13 | NivFreak | does anyone dispute that between shadowmeld and draeni hit racial, alliance have a pretty huge faction advantage atm? |
| 22:58.15 | nevcairiel | also, not in arenas or BGs |
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| 22:58.26 | nevcairiel | how is shadowmeld really useful? |
| 22:58.34 | Xinhuan | shadowmeld is only useful in a wipe |
| 22:58.37 | NivFreak | shadowmeld -> flight form |
| 22:58.42 | NivFreak | insanely OP |
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| 22:58.51 | Xinhuan | well i only consider raiding pve advantages |
| 22:58.55 | nevcairiel | yeah when aggroing some stupid mobs |
| 22:58.57 | [draco] | better stealth in arenas |
| 22:59.02 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: world pvp |
| 22:59.12 | Xinhuan | i would argue that undead racial is better |
| 22:59.14 | nevcairiel | world pvp is non existant, shrug |
| 22:59.20 | NivFreak | eh? |
| 22:59.23 | NivFreak | we have tons of it |
| 22:59.42 | NivFreak | ok, so still |
| 22:59.42 | steev | NivFreak: hit racial and getting outta combat ? those are nothing compared to aoe stun, aoe silence |
| 22:59.44 | NivFreak | dismissed shadow meld |
| 22:59.48 | NivFreak | 1% hit to raid? |
| 22:59.49 | NivFreak | wtf is that |
| 23:00.01 | NivFreak | NOTHING horde side compares to that |
| 23:00.02 | nevcairiel | its to group |
| 23:00.05 | nevcairiel | btw |
| 23:00.06 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 23:00.10 | Xeross | World PVP = WG |
| 23:00.11 | steev | yes, its group not raid |
| 23:00.22 | NivFreak | I was told it was raid, but regardless |
| 23:00.27 | NivFreak | do you have less than 5 draeni? :P |
| 23:00.30 | Xinhuan | whoeveer told you wrong |
| 23:00.37 | steev | we have 1 draenei we run with |
| 23:00.38 | Xinhuan | typically the only dranei in a raid is only shamans |
| 23:00.43 | steev | yep |
| 23:00.49 | Xinhuan | because nobody else rolls draneis for other classes |
| 23:00.55 | nevcairiel | we have a priest and 2 DKs as draenei |
| 23:01.01 | steev | well |
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| 23:01.03 | nevcairiel | and shamans, of course |
| 23:01.03 | NivFreak | so that's enough to cover most of your dps |
| 23:01.03 | Xinhuan | humans are better generally |
| 23:01.05 | steev | we have a dk who is one too |
| 23:01.22 | steev | but the dk is the shaman's alt so *shrug* |
| 23:01.25 | NivFreak | you really only need 3 |
| 23:01.28 | NivFreak | to cover the raid |
| 23:01.43 | nevcairiel | 4 is better, healer group doesnt need one, but tanks could use one too |
| 23:01.46 | Xinhuan | 1% isn't much, and isn't useful in pvp |
| 23:01.47 | Kamisama | Xinhuan: Howdy, got some questions for ya |
| 23:01.51 | Xinhuan | sup |
| 23:01.58 | steev | Xinhuan: exactly |
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| 23:02.24 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: 1% is MASSIVE |
| 23:02.35 | NivFreak | that lets you drop 1% hit off your gear for other stats |
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| 23:02.53 | Xinhuan | oh i thought our context is in world pvp ? |
| 23:02.56 | steev | NivFreak: you assume they are always around - which isn't the case |
| 23:02.56 | NivFreak | no |
| 23:03.00 | NivFreak | the context was general |
| 23:03.05 | NivFreak | shadowmeld was refering to world pvp |
| 23:03.08 | nevcairiel | he just switches context how he can QQ more :) |
| 23:03.11 | Xinhuan | [2/25 06:58:26] <NivFreak> does anyone dispute that between shadowmeld and draeni hit racial, alliance have a pretty huge faction advantage atm? |
| 23:03.13 | Xinhuan | [2/25 06:59:14] <NivFreak> nevcairiel: world pvp |
| 23:03.22 | TradeMark | NivFreak: 1% is 26 hit rating :/ |
| 23:03.24 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: read what he said in between |
| 23:03.26 | TradeMark | you can get that with one piece of gear |
| 23:03.39 | NivFreak | TradeMark: and we do, but that can be spent on other stats |
| 23:03.52 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: arenas/bgs, war stomp and silence, what does shadowmeld or hit get me there? <.< |
| 23:04.00 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: a vanish |
| 23:04.09 | NivFreak | warstom is basically an aoe interrupt |
| 23:04.11 | nevcairiel | that doesnt even work properly in pvp |
| 23:04.13 | Kamisama | Xinhuan: first of all most of friends dont have omen, and at some boss fights the aggro resets (going below zero) yet they only see a portion of the aggro they currently have, but omen3 is based o nthe inbeeded threath meter right? so how come they get a disadvantage during pve? is omen that accurate or what? |
| 23:04.13 | NivFreak | warstomp* |
| 23:04.18 | NivFreak | they nerfed the shit out of it |
| 23:04.26 | Kamisama | threat* |
| 23:04.38 | Xinhuan | err what Kamisama? |
| 23:04.46 | Xinhuan | first threat never goes below 0 |
| 23:04.58 | Kamisama | I've seen -1xxx |
| 23:05.03 | Jaxon | That is TPS |
| 23:05.05 | Xinhuan | it can be set to 0, but not below 0 (unless under the effects of Fade or Mirror Image) |
| 23:05.11 | Pneumatus | it still ammuses me looking through the updated framexml that they have removed some getglobal()s for _G[]s, but in NEW code thats been written they have still used getglobal a few times |
| 23:05.19 | Xinhuan | TPS is Threat per second |
| 23:05.32 | Jaxon | TPS is a running average based on the last...10 seconds? |
| 23:05.36 | Kamisama | humm.... and that can drop below zero correct? |
| 23:05.37 | Jaxon | I'm guessing |
| 23:05.44 | Xinhuan | nope, threat cannot drop below 0 |
| 23:05.47 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: as for alliance pvp, stoneform and perception are also very strong |
| 23:05.50 | Xinhuan | unless under the effects of Fade/MI |
| 23:06.00 | TradeMark | NivFreak: perception no longer exists. |
| 23:06.13 | NivFreak | TradeMark: crack what? |
| 23:06.26 | Primer | TradeMark: sure it does |
| 23:06.26 | TradeMark | we have a "pvp trinket" ability now which removes stuns/ccs |
| 23:06.27 | Jaxon | Kamisama: your TPS will drop negative when your threat is decreasing. Feign Death, Wing Buffet, Cower, will all do this. |
| 23:06.29 | Primer | it's just passive now |
| 23:06.32 | Xinhuan | so given these facts, i'm not sure what you are really asking about |
| 23:06.35 | NivFreak | right.. it's passive |
| 23:06.45 | nevcairiel | the passive thing isnt really strong anymore |
| 23:06.48 | Primer | it still works though |
| 23:06.48 | NivFreak | it |
| 23:06.51 | Kamisama | well the boss seems to aggro reset and I see em going below zero, unless i taunt, they get aggro/killed |
| 23:06.51 | NivFreak | it's > 0% |
| 23:06.57 | Xinhuan | "yet they only see a portion of the aggro they currently have" <-- huh? |
| 23:07.01 | NivFreak | ok, so I was unwise to bring up pvp balance |
| 23:07.01 | nevcairiel | when you see the rogue, its too late |
| 23:07.05 | NivFreak | because blizzard always fails there |
| 23:07.06 | Primer | I, as a human, can see stealthed players before non humans |
| 23:07.12 | Primer | if their stealth is not that good |
| 23:07.14 | NivFreak | but draeni racial, what does horde have to compete |
| 23:07.27 | Pneumatus | +5 herbalism to taurens |
| 23:07.29 | NivFreak | lol |
| 23:07.30 | Pneumatus | same thing |
| 23:07.36 | Xinhuan | NivFreak: Troll berserking |
| 23:07.40 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: lol |
| 23:08.03 | NivFreak | you're right, you are trolling |
| 23:08.03 | Xinhuan | and whats that bloodelf racial called |
| 23:08.08 | Arrowmaster | fuck you guys, i get 5% more pet damage |
| 23:08.15 | Kamisama | arcane torrent* |
| 23:08.16 | End | arcane torrent? |
| 23:08.30 | NivFreak | all of those thing affect a maximum of 1 person |
| 23:08.32 | NivFreak | not a group |
| 23:08.40 | NivFreak | and berzerking is lol |
| 23:08.55 | Xinhuan | berserking gives more dps to that one person than 1% hit does |
| 23:08.57 | Jaxon | Berserking doesn't have near enough of a duration to matter. |
| 23:09.10 | Repo | 10ihml: 03Ackis * r164 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 23:09.10 | Repo | Make the license be auto-generated from WowAce. Also deal with Ticket 11 and try to add support for targetting opposite faction players. |
| 23:09.15 | NivFreak | 10% haste? |
| 23:09.20 | NivFreak | for 10 seconds? |
| 23:09.21 | NivFreak | lol |
| 23:09.35 | NivFreak | every 3 mins |
| 23:09.35 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: why would you even try to add that retarded idea |
| 23:09.37 | NivFreak | it's terrible |
| 23:09.43 | NivFreak | if you want a dps racial, you go orc |
| 23:10.09 | nevcairiel | And if you want a hit racial, you go draenei, reroll alliance and stop QQing .P |
| 23:10.16 | Xinhuan | well, since you want to argue about racials |
| 23:10.29 | Xinhuan | how about the "alliance" equivalent of the tauren health bonus |
| 23:10.30 | Kamisama | speaking of racials.. they sill havent fixed the GotW for draenei shadow priests |
| 23:10.31 | Xinhuan | for tanks |
| 23:10.31 | Pneumatus | draenai hit aura really needs to go raid wide :) |
| 23:10.45 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: 1% dodge > 5% of BASE HEALTH |
| 23:10.48 | p4aved | Xinhuan: reroll horde, problem solved |
| 23:10.53 | NivFreak | and also once again |
| 23:10.56 | NivFreak | this affects 1 player |
| 23:11.00 | NivFreak | if they are tauren |
| 23:11.02 | NivFreak | not the group |
| 23:11.35 | nevcairiel | Playing on the 1% draenei hit can be tricky though, you aren't necessarily guaranteed to have it always on you |
| 23:11.49 | Tristanian | which is precicely why you dont |
| 23:11.50 | Xinhuan | especially if the fight involves movement |
| 23:12.02 | Xinhuan | the dranei might not be in range |
| 23:12.09 | Xinhuan | example: 4H, sapphiron |
| 23:12.12 | Xinhuan | KT |
| 23:12.21 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: the same could be said for misery/IFF |
| 23:12.22 | Tristanian | I'd say more sarth 3d than those |
| 23:12.26 | NivFreak | but you DO gear for it |
| 23:12.30 | Xinhuan | sarth3's island is sufficiently small |
| 23:12.51 | Tristanian | what was the effective range again ? |
| 23:12.54 | Xinhuan | misery and IFF's uptime is 100% for most bosses |
| 23:12.58 | Xinhuan | dranei range is 30 yards |
| 23:12.58 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: those are on the boss, you can probably assume you get one person in the raid doign a hit debuff |
| 23:13.14 | nevcairiel | but a 30y aura is a bit tricky |
| 23:13.32 | Tristanian | should be sufficient though it the vast majority of cases |
| 23:13.35 | Xinhuan | i think you'll find it hard for misery not to be 100% uptime |
| 23:13.51 | NivFreak | assuming you HAVE a spriest |
| 23:13.52 | NivFreak | :) |
| 23:14.12 | NivFreak | I really wish they would put that hit debuff on another class |
| 23:14.16 | NivFreak | and as part of thier standard rotation |
| 23:14.21 | Xinhuan | they did, moonkins! |
| 23:14.33 | Tristanian | iFF is a DPS decrease for booms |
| 23:14.38 | Tristanian | which is why most of us avoid it :p |
| 23:14.46 | NivFreak | right |
| 23:14.49 | NivFreak | although |
| 23:14.49 | Tristanian | but its not that significant when the raid needs it |
| 23:14.55 | NivFreak | the theorycraft says it's not always a decrease |
| 23:15.07 | syeren | Hmm, what do sensible people use to create image drives these days :p? |
| 23:15.08 | NivFreak | don't you trade 3% crit for 3% haste specing and dpsing it? |
| 23:15.16 | NivFreak | er, vice versa |
| 23:15.18 | syeren | I used to use Daemon, however I have no idea if that is still considered good :p |
| 23:15.26 | Tristanian | you dont trade anything |
| 23:15.51 | Tristanian | there are enough points to take iFF, it is beneficial as long as you are not the one applying it |
| 23:15.54 | Tristanian | optimally that is |
| 23:16.08 | NivFreak | Tristanian: but if you get feral faerie fire... |
| 23:16.22 | nevcairiel | fff doesnt have the stronger effect |
| 23:16.29 | Tristanian | yup |
| 23:16.30 | NivFreak | it gives you the same crit bonus right? |
| 23:16.34 | nevcairiel | one boomkin needs to do it |
| 23:16.34 | Tristanian | yes |
| 23:16.41 | NivFreak | so all you lose is the hit |
| 23:16.46 | nevcairiel | and destroy their rotation :) |
| 23:16.49 | NivFreak | right |
| 23:16.56 | NivFreak | so if you have FFF and a spriest |
| 23:17.02 | Tristanian | well not exactly destroy it, it's just one more gcd |
| 23:17.03 | NivFreak | why would your boomkin spec IFF |
| 23:17.05 | Tristanian | to worry about |
| 23:17.06 | NivFreak | and reduce thier dmg |
| 23:17.08 | sylvanaar | hit |
| 23:17.13 | NivFreak | MISERY |
| 23:17.16 | nevcairiel | speccing doesnt reduce the dmg |
| 23:17.20 | nevcairiel | just applying the debuff |
| 23:17.21 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 23:17.21 | Tristanian | Niv I have 2 shadowpriests always in our raids |
| 23:17.21 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: rotation does |
| 23:17.24 | Tristanian | I don't worry |
| 23:17.26 | Tristanian | :p |
| 23:17.31 | NivFreak | this is my point though |
| 23:17.35 | NivFreak | you can either reduce a players dps |
| 23:17.36 | Xinhuan | why would the boomkin not spec it |
| 23:17.38 | NivFreak | or bring a shadow priest |
| 23:17.48 | Xinhuan | speccing it doesn't reduce his dps, even if he doesn't cast it |
| 23:17.55 | Tristanian | exactly |
| 23:17.56 | End | well |
| 23:17.59 | End | he loses talent points |
| 23:18.01 | NivFreak | and in our case, finding a good spriest is about the most difficult thing we've ever encountered |
| 23:18.05 | sylvanaar | it usually means you give up IIS |
| 23:18.06 | End | but I dunno if there are worthwhile talents |
| 23:18.06 | nevcairiel | it increases his dps if he specs it |
| 23:18.14 | Tristanian | talent points to go where ? |
| 23:18.15 | End | does it? |
| 23:18.24 | End | I guess I shouldn't be surprised |
| 23:18.25 | Xinhuan | and in the case where an spriest isn't around, then it is actually a dps increase! |
| 23:18.28 | nevcairiel | 3% crit on targets affected by faerie fire |
| 23:18.32 | End | ah right |
| 23:18.33 | nevcairiel | doesnt have to be your FF |
| 23:18.43 | Hjalte | Most moonkins specs IFF because of the free 3% crit when FF is up and there isn't really anywhere else to put those points. |
| 23:18.44 | Tristanian | there are enough points to take IIS, Iff, celestial focus, eclipse etc |
| 23:19.02 | NivFreak | ok, but still |
| 23:19.11 | NivFreak | it's a dps loss to apply IFF |
| 23:19.18 | Xinhuan | ok now, i think you're just grasping at straws ;p |
| 23:19.21 | NivFreak | any one disagree? |
| 23:19.28 | Tristanian | yes I don't see the problem either |
| 23:19.29 | Hjalte | NivFreak: Not a raid-dps loss :P |
| 23:19.35 | NivFreak | Hjalte: yes, it is |
| 23:19.38 | Tristanian | as long as you have a feral or even a resto applying it for you |
| 23:19.41 | NivFreak | because we're getting misery from a spriest |
| 23:19.42 | Tristanian | it's a non issue |
| 23:19.45 | Hjalte | Unless the raid already have FF and 3% hit covered |
| 23:19.46 | NivFreak | and FFF from a feral |
| 23:19.48 | NivFreak | right |
| 23:19.54 | NivFreak | so ok, follow me here |
| 23:19.59 | NivFreak | if there was a class besides a shadow priest |
| 23:20.06 | NivFreak | which could apply the hit debuff in their standard rotation |
| 23:20.09 | NivFreak | this would make things better |
| 23:20.12 | NivFreak | do we disagree here? |
| 23:20.16 | Tristanian | nope |
| 23:20.16 | Hjalte | Yes, for moonkins |
| 23:20.21 | Tristanian | bug blizzie about it :p |
| 23:20.23 | Hjalte | I hate putting up FF |
| 23:20.24 | NivFreak | Hjalte: and for the raid |
| 23:20.28 | winkiller | it's also a dps loss for FFF |
| 23:20.30 | winkiller | so what? |
| 23:20.33 | Industrial | Anyone here have OneSwarm isntalled? |
| 23:20.48 | Hjalte | FFF is much, much easier to keep up. Especially when you're cat, but also bear. |
| 23:20.51 | NivFreak | winkiller: a tank's lost dps is very trivial in comparison :P |
| 23:20.56 | Xinhuan | did u know that that was an issue for spriests and replenishment? |
| 23:20.58 | nevcairiel | cats will always find a GCD to apply it |
| 23:21.04 | winkiller | cats also have fff |
| 23:21.17 | Tristanian | what nev said :p |
| 23:21.18 | Xinhuan | replenishment is supposed to tick once per second, but spriests were renewing it faster than once per second |
| 23:21.21 | winkiller | I've not been cat at 80 |
| 23:21.25 | winkiller | so ok, point taken :) |
| 23:21.25 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: yes, and this is why what, 4 or 5 classes will give replenishment in 3.1? |
| 23:21.32 | Xinhuan | which meant it didn't actually tick, or tick less often |
| 23:21.34 | nevcairiel | you'll always run out of energy |
| 23:21.35 | NivFreak | lol |
| 23:21.40 | nevcairiel | not out of gcds |
| 23:21.42 | NivFreak | oh, I didn't know about that issue |
| 23:21.44 | Xinhuan | because refreshing it resets the tick |
| 23:21.46 | nevcairiel | unless you beserk |
| 23:21.46 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 23:21.50 | Xinhuan | that's why they moved replenishment proc |
| 23:21.54 | Tristanian | at this rate, everyone will have replenishment soon :p |
| 23:21.58 | Xinhuan | so that it only procs on... is it mind blast now? |
| 23:22.10 | sylvanaar | yeah and its 0.5% |
| 23:22.11 | nevcairiel | yeah mind blast of VE is up |
| 23:22.13 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 23:22.16 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 23:22.19 | nevcairiel | of=if |
| 23:22.26 | nevcairiel | or VT? |
| 23:22.29 | nevcairiel | i always mix those up |
| 23:22.36 | NivFreak | BT |
| 23:22.37 | NivFreak | er |
| 23:22.38 | NivFreak | VT |
| 23:22.52 | sylvanaar | its a shitty replenish |
| 23:22.58 | nevcairiel | also, the stormwind ship to northrend isnt coming on the PTR |
| 23:22.59 | nevcairiel | =( |
| 23:23.13 | Xinhuan | mind flay would tick every 1.9 secs, for eg, and so replenishment applies -> 1 sec tick, 1.9sec renew --> 2.9 sec tick, 3.8 sec renew -> 4.8 sec tick |
| 23:23.14 | NivFreak | northrend probably crashed |
| 23:23.19 | NivFreak | someone figured out a way to crash it |
| 23:23.23 | Xinhuan | so relpenisment only ticked twice in 4.8 seconds |
| 23:23.25 | sylvanaar | prolly dk |
| 23:23.29 | Xinhuan | 3 times i mean |
| 23:23.41 | sylvanaar | i hate dks - i blame them for everything |
| 23:23.42 | Xinhuan | or in otherwords, ticked every 1.9 sec instead of every 1.0 |
| 23:24.21 | NivFreak | to come full circle, I see people downpaying the hit racial as basically the same as downplaying paladins and kings in classic :P |
| 23:24.26 | NivFreak | downplaying* |
| 23:25.00 | NivFreak | er |
| 23:25.01 | NivFreak | salvation |
| 23:25.04 | NivFreak | not to mention kings ;) |
| 23:25.06 | End | the disparity is significantly less |
| 23:25.12 | sylvanaar | its not that big of a deal |
| 23:25.17 | nevcairiel | Buffs are insignificant, you can probably beat any encounter without Kings, yet people will cry all day if you dont give it to them |
| 23:25.35 | NivFreak | at the moment they don't matter |
| 23:25.38 | NivFreak | I suspect they will ;) |
| 23:25.40 | sylvanaar | i dont |
| 23:25.52 | Tristanian | me neither |
| 23:25.57 | nevcairiel | Same for buff food, people make a big fuss how everyone needs the best food in game |
| 23:26.00 | nevcairiel | yet it doesnt matter |
| 23:26.00 | sylvanaar | i dont think the game is going to become hard |
| 23:26.02 | nevcairiel | just play better |
| 23:26.03 | Tristanian | especially when now kings is on par with Motw or ? |
| 23:26.12 | Tristanian | its the same buff isn't it ? |
| 23:26.14 | End | no |
| 23:26.20 | sylvanaar | same as what |
| 23:26.21 | End | kings is still %, and motw is a flat increase |
| 23:26.26 | nevcairiel | nah motw and kings are both unchalanged |
| 23:26.35 | nevcairiel | *challenged |
| 23:26.37 | nevcairiel | what a typo |
| 23:26.52 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: we have no problems with content |
| 23:26.56 | Tristanian | ah so they didn't change talented mark to 1/2% increase yet ? |
| 23:27.02 | Tristanian | or I read some bogus 3.1 changes :p |
| 23:27.05 | NivFreak | but I just find it funny that they do shit like this |
| 23:27.08 | sylvanaar | its still pretty worthless |
| 23:27.24 | nevcairiel | Tristanian: oh they did, the 2% are on your stats only, as a flat bonus, independant of actually buffing motw =) |
| 23:27.38 | Tristanian | ah |
| 23:27.41 | nevcairiel | on the imp-motw talent |
| 23:27.42 | Tristanian | thanks, that explains it |
| 23:27.50 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1533 ARLFrame.lua: AckisRecipeList: |
| 23:27.51 | Tristanian | so they rather made it a personal buff |
| 23:27.51 | sylvanaar | if they gave trees something from furor i wouldnt even spec imp motw |
| 23:27.52 | Repo | - fixed popup option (profile nil errors) |
| 23:28.31 | nevcairiel | hehe our bear already plans on speccing imp-motw now for the 2% bonus |
| 23:28.40 | nevcairiel | he got all excited for 2% on his 2000 stamina |
| 23:28.46 | Tristanian | :p |
| 23:28.48 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 23:29.03 | nevcairiel | after modifiers that plays out to 700hp |
| 23:29.06 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 23:29.20 | sylvanaar | 700 of what 40k |
| 23:29.34 | nevcairiel | pretty much, lol |
| 23:29.45 | Tristanian | yes we can see the problem right there |
| 23:29.45 | sylvanaar | wow i cant install the ptr at all |
| 23:29.47 | Tristanian | :p |
| 23:30.15 | nevcairiel | of course its still 2% stats for 2 points, so its good |
| 23:30.16 | Tristanian | ah thanks for reminding, download completed |
| 23:30.18 | Pneumatus | our bear is at like 52k now or something stupid :o |
| 23:30.41 | nevcairiel | Probably one of the silly ones just gearing for stamina |
| 23:30.45 | Xinhuan | our bear has more hp than WG vehicles with 2 stacks of tenacity |
| 23:30.46 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 23:30.58 | Pneumatus | no, he's a JC/ench |
| 23:31.04 | nevcairiel | vehicles don't get tenacity, i thought |
| 23:31.09 | sylvanaar | they do |
| 23:31.13 | Xinhuan | bears do |
| 23:31.26 | sylvanaar | itd be dumb if they didnt |
| 23:31.33 | Xinhuan | vehicles don't |
| 23:31.36 | sylvanaar | they do |
| 23:31.36 | Xinhuan | they have a flat 55k hp |
| 23:31.37 | nevcairiel | someone complained a few days ago they didnt |
| 23:31.49 | Xinhuan | 55k on demolisher, 85k on siege |
| 23:31.51 | sylvanaar | unless they patched it out in 3.08 they do |
| 23:32.01 | Xinhuan | i can tell u in 3.0.8, they don't |
| 23:32.18 | Xinhuan | tenacity no longer affects vehicles, walls, etc |
| 23:32.19 | Tristanian | I think we can all agree that bears run with an absurd amount of hp |
| 23:32.25 | Codayus | I saw a vehicle with tenacity 2 days ago. The tooltip said it increased its health. I didn't check if it did. |
| 23:32.29 | sylvanaar | how stupid - the players have more hp than the vehicles |
| 23:32.29 | Xinhuan | or siege weaponry damage |
| 23:32.31 | nevcairiel | i never had tenacity and i really didnt pay attention to the enemy vehicles, hehe |
| 23:33.11 | sylvanaar | kinda defeats the point of the buff |
| 23:33.23 | nevcairiel | Tristanian: they can, but max-hp isnt always the best choice to gear/gem for :) |
| 23:33.39 | Xinhuan | the point of the buff, is to buff the player, not the vehicle |
| 23:33.39 | nevcairiel | yet alot of bears still do that |
| 23:33.44 | nevcairiel | because it was so cool in BC |
| 23:33.53 | Tristanian | yeah |
| 23:34.02 | Xinhuan | otherwise vehicles would do 2x damage on walls |
| 23:34.05 | Tristanian | it doesn't matter much in current content anyway |
| 23:34.06 | Xinhuan | and make for a quick game |
| 23:34.11 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 23:34.11 | sylvanaar | so 10:1 horde will just kill the vehicles, and win - pointles |
| 23:34.23 | Xinhuan | yes, but you also 1 shot horde |
| 23:34.29 | sylvanaar | so |
| 23:34.33 | Xinhuan | that's how it works |
| 23:34.37 | sylvanaar | thats not the objective |
| 23:34.44 | nevcairiel | You need to protect your vehicles |
| 23:34.57 | sylvanaar | how can you when you are outnumbered 10:1 |
| 23:35.01 | Kamisama | woah got another question about pitbull |
| 23:35.10 | nevcairiel | When alliance has 10 times the people, they still can only have a limited amount of vehicles |
| 23:35.12 | Xinhuan | when you are outnumbered 10:1 you dont' win |
| 23:35.28 | nevcairiel | vehicles don't grow in numbers |
| 23:35.29 | Kamisama | if anyone happens to know, is there a way to export color setup from PB3 > PB4? |
| 23:35.43 | sylvanaar | they did |
| 23:36.15 | nevcairiel | you need to keep people away from your vehicles, and with a 10:1 tenacity up, i bet you can nearly oneshot people trying to reach your vehicles, lol |
| 23:36.34 | End | well |
| 23:36.35 | sylvanaar | honestly - thats rediculous |
| 23:36.37 | End | you forget about the lag |
| 23:36.39 | End | BUTTT |
| 23:36.51 | Tristanian | easier said than done sometimes yeah |
| 23:36.51 | End | you can't hit the defender's to keep them off your vehicles |
| 23:36.58 | nevcairiel | even if its an even match, you can easily run in with 5 people and destroy a vehicle |
| 23:36.58 | End | but they can barely hit your vehicles either |
| 23:37.02 | nevcairiel | if its not protected |
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| 23:37.23 | nevcairiel | but yeah, lag destroys all strategy anyway =P |
| 23:37.25 | sylvanaar | i think tenacity on the vehicles made more sense |
| 23:38.00 | nevcairiel | the vehicles would becoem undestroyable on high tenactiy stacks, lol |
| 23:38.05 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 23:38.17 | nevcairiel | first WG i ever was in |
| 23:38.21 | nevcairiel | fresh 80 etc |
| 23:38.27 | sylvanaar | you are discounting the reason tenacity is there in the first place |
| 23:38.28 | nevcairiel | our horde had max tenacity stacks |
| 23:38.33 | nevcairiel | they felt like a raid boss |
| 23:38.37 | nevcairiel | everyone of them |
| 23:38.48 | Xinhuan | sylvanaar, tenacity has never been fair in the first place |
| 23:38.51 | nevcairiel | granted they nerfed tenacity now :D |
| 23:39.24 | sylvanaar | Xinhuan it was designed so that WG would be playable even when the player count was imbalanced. period. |
| 23:39.32 | nevcairiel | tenacity is fine to "fix" small imbalances |
| 23:39.40 | nevcairiel | for big imbalances it doesnt work properly |
| 23:39.44 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 23:39.46 | nevcairiel | and it simply cannot |
| 23:39.58 | sylvanaar | if you are 10:1, then it should take 10 of you to kill 1 person |
| 23:40.04 | sylvanaar | makes sense to me |
| 23:40.05 | Xinhuan | if you are outnumbered 10:1, the larger side can just crowd control you |
| 23:40.12 | Xinhuan | without killing anything |
| 23:40.14 | Xinhuan | and win |
| 23:40.40 | sylvanaar | you sidestepping |
| 23:40.45 | sylvanaar | you are |
| 23:41.09 | Xinhuan | the fact is, tenacity has never been balanced, nor is it capable of balacing anything larger than approximately 3:1 |
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| 23:41.56 | sylvanaar | allright |
| 23:42.39 | nevcairiel | one person that is as strong as 10 of his enemys might be a statistical "even", but one person fully controls him, where as coordinating 10 people takes an effort |
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| 23:43.06 | Xinhuan | also that one person can just 2-shot the healers first |
| 23:43.12 | nevcairiel | its a complicated thing |
| 23:43.18 | sylvanaar | ah, there we go] |
| 23:43.22 | sylvanaar | you play a priest |
| 23:43.29 | Pneumatus | crowd controlling 1 person the strength of 10 men is a lot easier than crowd controlling 10 people |
| 23:44.17 | sylvanaar | it at least comes closer to balancing than not trying at all |
| 23:44.22 | nevcairiel | indeed |
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| 23:44.39 | nevcairiel | just for really "broken" realms with a really sad balance, its not good |
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| 23:45.30 | nevcairiel | still better then nothing, but far from perfect |
| 23:45.35 | VonhintenHOME` | You can't fix PVP population imbalance other than by increasing the population |
| 23:45.38 | VonhintenHOME` | bottom line |
| 23:46.01 | sylvanaar | personally i think the grouping situation is more annoying |
| 23:46.14 | sylvanaar | its like old AV |
| 23:46.27 | VonhintenHOME` | DAoC dealt with the issue (and even it was slow at it) by giving low population sides bonuses to leveling speed, gold, etc... |
| 23:46.40 | VonhintenHOME` | which would be ugly in WoW, since they let you move servers so easily |
| 23:46.57 | Aens|Superiority | you can fix pvp imbalances by providing incentives to pvp. People will get better at pvp if they want to get better. |
| 23:47.11 | Xinhuan | they attempt to solve population imbalances atm by using free transfers |
| 23:47.13 | nevcairiel | its not a skill thing |
| 23:47.20 | nevcairiel | its simply a population issue |
| 23:47.40 | sylvanaar | world pvp with a pop imbalance is stupid |
| 23:48.15 | winkiller | idd |
| 23:48.15 | Pneumatus | people only take the free transfers if their current realm is unplayable tho really |
| 23:48.15 | winkiller | on my server it's only 2.5-3:1 |
| 23:48.15 | winkiller | and alliance had all world obkjectives 90% |
| 23:48.15 | sylvanaar | who wants to play on an empty server |
| 23:48.35 | VonhintenHOME` | Another problem is, once a population imbalance develops, it has to be dealt with quickly, or the realm will NEVER recover. Even with equal population, the originally low pop side will be at a huge skill and morale disadvantage |
| 23:48.53 | Pneumatus | EU-Magtheridon is one which is retardedly unbalanced |
| 23:49.08 | Aens|Superiority | VonhintenHOME`: thats assuming that players dont take matters into their own hands. |
| 23:49.18 | Pneumatus | but alliance wont move there because there's too much competition from horde for PvE progress etc |
| 23:49.31 | Aens|Superiority | I really dont think it is up to the developer to make up for the lack of a community developing on its own |
| 23:49.31 | winkiller | I moved my low-level alliance to mag! |
| 23:49.33 | sylvanaar | i thought everyone rerolled horde anyways |
| 23:50.01 | Pneumatus | and horde wont leave because the server is playable and they can PvP in battlegrounds with no problem |
| 23:50.10 | VonhintenHOME` | Aens: well, if they don't, then we'll never really have a good PVP game |
| 23:50.13 | Tristanian | and Ensidia is there |
| 23:50.16 | Pneumatus | so it will never balance |
| 23:50.38 | Aens|Superiority | VonhintenHOME`: and as an ex-daoc player who led the realm war and successfully held 6 relics for 3 months, it had nothing to do with the developer and with the people. |
| 23:50.38 | Pneumatus | plus yeh, all the fanboi raiders that aspire to be in ensidia wont leave |
| 23:50.46 | winkiller | Tristanian: Mag is full on fanboys? :D |
| 23:50.49 | Kamisama | gotta love the old days of magtheridown |
| 23:50.53 | Tristanian | Never said full |
| 23:50.54 | sylvanaar | they copied warhammer's letting you queue for a bg from anywhere |
| 23:50.59 | Tristanian | but there are enough of them trust me |
| 23:51.11 | Tristanian | I used to play on maggie a couple of years ago |
| 23:51.14 | winkiller | hehe |
| 23:51.16 | Tristanian | Classic Naxx era |
| 23:51.23 | nevcairiel | fanbois are silly, especially for something like a raid guild <.< |
| 23:51.27 | Kamisama | what guild? |
| 23:51.27 | Tristanian | back when Alliance had competitive PvE guilds |
| 23:51.29 | Xinhuan | do you realize by letting you queue a BG from anywhere, you no longer ever have to pay a spirit resser to get rezzed |
| 23:51.36 | Tristanian | Khadgar's Rage |
| 23:51.36 | winkiller | nevcairiel: addon author fanboys better? |
| 23:51.41 | Xinhuan | if u died at a bad spot that is |
| 23:51.52 | nevcairiel | winkiller: sure, if they bring cookies |
| 23:51.56 | Kamisama | i was back with Pain train "back then" |
| 23:52.00 | winkiller | Xinhuan: I've used SR *once* in the last year |
| 23:52.07 | sylvanaar | i cant tell if the abolish change is a nerf or a buff. at least you can do your group without using all your gcds |
| 23:52.13 | Xinhuan | well yeah, i'm just stating a fact ;p |
| 23:52.14 | Hjalte | Are there any RPGs that play kind of like Final Fantasy but for the PC? We raid one day a week now :( |
| 23:52.17 | Tristanian | ah yeah ;) |
| 23:52.32 | winkiller | Hjalte: grind rep! do dailies! :D |
| 23:52.33 | sylvanaar | Hjalte yeah - someone was just telling me about one -though i forgot the name |
| 23:52.56 | VonhintenHOME` | Aens: the bonuses to leveling had a huge impact on rerolls. The people that rerolled did it because (typically) there were too many on their side (albs) or because there wasn't enough good competition... DAoC's world was small enough for that |
| 23:53.00 | sylvanaar | look on mmorpg.com i think thats where he read about it |
| 23:53.07 | Hjalte | winkiller: I do the cooking daily twice a day, but the rest is dull when you're not in need of money. |
| 23:53.15 | winkiller | so true |
| 23:53.28 | winkiller | I'm just doing frenzyheart for the first time this year I think |
| 23:53.30 | winkiller | still honored |
| 23:53.34 | sylvanaar | oh living seed doesnt suck balls now |
| 23:53.51 | VonhintenHOME` | don't lie.. yes it does |
| 23:54.00 | Xinhuan | well yeah |
| 23:54.01 | sylvanaar | it includes overheal |
| 23:54.12 | Xinhuan | if people wanted to reroll, they woule naturaly choose a side with leveling speed bonuses |
| 23:54.17 | sylvanaar | = no longer suckx |
| 23:54.19 | Kamisama | I still find my server pretty unbalanced, I mean is 1 : 1.9 really that bad? |
| 23:54.34 | Xinhuan | anything worse than 1:1.5 i say its bad |
| 23:54.39 | Tristanian | yes living seed will take total healing into consideration afaik |
| 23:55.02 | *** join/#wowace Larana (n=Anaral@WoWUIDev/Norganna/QA-Manager/Anaral) |
| 23:55.02 | sylvanaar | im reading the patch notes |
| 23:55.03 | Xinhuan | 3:2 is managable (1:1.5) but anything worse is just .. oh wellz |
| 23:55.48 | sylvanaar | wow they finally removed imp enslave demon |
| 23:55.55 | winkiller | rerolling sucks |
| 23:55.57 | winkiller | alts > rerolls |
| 23:55.59 | Kamisama | and blackout \o/ |
| 23:56.12 | sylvanaar | and master conjuror is 150%/300% |
| 23:56.28 | End | they remove demonic sacrifice too |
| 23:56.31 | End | removed* |
| 23:56.34 | Tristanian | I wonder how these new mounts that can swim will pan out |
| 23:56.39 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 23:56.48 | Tristanian | I predict...issues |
| 23:56.52 | Xinhuan | it doesn't affect things much |
| 23:57.01 | Xinhuan | just means you can cross that pesky river faster |
| 23:57.04 | End | some mounts might still need a swimming animation |
| 23:57.07 | Xinhuan | without being dismounted and remounting |
| 23:57.12 | End | but that's the only problem with implementation |
| 23:57.12 | Kamisama | walking on water is not an issue.. |
| 23:57.14 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, gnome = bad, when rivers are involved, and that sucks |
| 23:57.15 | End | that I can think of |
| 23:57.42 | *** part/#wowace pompy (n=Pomp@c-71-58-3-50.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 23:57.51 | Tristanian | well do mounts currently have swimming animations ? :s |
| 23:58.03 | Kamisama | yes |
| 23:58.15 | Kamisama | they've had it since patch 1.X |
| 23:58.17 | VonhintenHOME` | What did horde get that's equivalent to the draenai 1% hit? |
| 23:58.29 | Kamisama | +5 herbalism? |
| 23:58.34 | Tristanian | :p |
| 23:58.43 | VonhintenHOME` | leet |
| 23:58.52 | Kamisama | them weed be good man |
| 23:59.18 | Kamisama | or free hamburgers at thrall's |
