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00:31.40pompyugh for some reason my whole ui layout got reset, but all savedvariables files are still there and what not.
00:33.47drweirdhey hey!
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00:46.18KemayoXinhuan: Yeeees?
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00:59.05Repo10project-14304: 03Kemayo * r75 LibQuixote-2.0.toc: Bump TOC since it seems to work
01:00.55pompymy tooltips are anchored in the middle of the screen and idk how to not have that.
01:11.41Repo10prescription: 03Starinnia * r92 Prescription.lua: add an instant check slash command
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01:29.34Repo10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm * r36 / (2 files in 1 directory): MorgBid2
01:29.37Repo-possible fix for result TT not appearing sometimes
01:29.40Repo-removed Q system
01:32.21Repo10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm * r64 / (6 files in 3 directories):  (Message trimmed by 3 lines)
01:32.24RepoMorgDKP2
01:32.28Repo-WEB!  added utf-8 detection to morgexport (not critical update if working)
01:32.30Repo-added debug code for ML not working sometimes
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01:33.47Repo10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm 04v3.2 * r37 : Tagging as v3.2
01:42.26Repo10fu-bar_dominos-fu: 03LaoTseu * r44 embeds.xml: Fubar_DominosFu:
01:42.29Repo- Use the <!--@no-lib-strip@--> and <!--@end-no-lib-strip@--> in embeds.xml
01:48.19Repo10prescription: 03Starinnia * r93 / (3 files in 1 directory):
01:48.22Repodon't run checks if the user is in combat, strange results are generated
02:25.31pompyif you die on thaddius is the immortal run done with or does it coutn as a pvp death?
02:26.21HjalteI'd think Immortal was done.
02:26.42HjalteWe had someone fail dancing tonight. Meh. And people disconnecting all over the place.
02:27.13pompyugh we were doin fine till someone dced on thadd and then died when he got back in
02:31.40Groktar"DON'T LOG BACK IN!"
02:38.16pompyGroktar: yeah, people were saying to, and others were sayin to not.. so.. yeah
02:38.18pompyblah
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02:59.09NeoTronwe had someone die in a 10-man thaddius (first death, third wing for the night) due to pulling aggro
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03:01.13purlhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=61991 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=61991
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03:04.34Repoe421e91: Add Fawn mini-pet.
03:04.37Repo53ec7eb: Comment out the acquire and flag stuff so I can see the output right now for missing entries.
03:04.40Repo43eef86: Fix a few more bugs, make the table dumping actually occur.
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03:54.28KemayoAckis: Collectinator-Alpha 3 76\Collectinator.lua:209: attempt to call global 'InitDatabases' (a nil value)
03:54.35KemayoWhen clicking the "scan" button in the config ui.
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04:02.46Repo-fix for forgotten return DOH!
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05:28.52Raydenquestion about 4 horseman
05:28.57Raydenwe have 2 healers and a boomkin
05:29.12Raydenwhere should we put the boomkin healer?
05:30.21quiescensum, dpsing with the rest of the dps?
05:30.24WobWorkNext to the boomkin?
05:30.44WobWorkoh the boomkin is a healer
05:30.49quiescensgood point, question is ambiguous
05:31.31Raydeni guess it hinges on whether the two at the back take more damage than one of the front groups
05:32.23quiescensfor 10man, its normally, random dps + random healer at the back
05:33.07Raydenwe're putting boomkin on the front
05:33.09Raydenwe'll see how it goes
05:33.32quiescenswhat are you trying to do anyway?
05:33.36quiescenskill all 4 at the same time?
05:34.49Raydenno
05:34.52Rayden2 in the back
05:34.55Rayden4 on the front left
05:34.57Rayden4 on the front right
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05:53.14Repo10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r62 / (7 files in 1 directory):
05:53.18RepoAdded a bunch of functionality to the UI. Stop bugs. Stop bugs! -50 DKP
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06:00.13cncfanaticsmmm, any have experience on malygos 10 man ? I always seem to run oom on it after phase 1 (as a disc priest, my healing partner being a holy pally)
06:01.19quiescensget replenishment or a 3rd haeler
06:01.22quiescenslol
06:01.52quiescensheal less and let the paladin heal a bit more?
06:02.48cncfanaticsif I heal any less the tank dies lol
06:02.50Raydeni like that option
06:03.21cncfanaticsmmm, we usualy take a feral
06:03.28cncfanaticsI think I'll ninja has innervate between phases
06:04.45VordeaBut in all honesty get replenishment if you don't already have somebody with it.
06:05.00cncfanaticshad 2 surv hunters
06:05.19Raydenreplenishment is not optional according to blizzard
06:05.48cncfanaticsit is on 10 mans iirc
06:06.02cncfanaticsbut yea,healing malygos 10 with 2 healers is kindof intensive
06:06.25VordeaI imagine so
06:06.31VordeaFirst time I downed him 10 man we had 3 healers
06:06.38Vordea2 druids and a pally
06:06.50Groktarya, i would only do 2 if i were going for 6 minute maly
06:07.01cncfanatics6 min maly oO
06:07.09cncfanaticswe're starting dragon phase with 4 mins left with 2 healers
06:07.13cncfanaticsis that good/bad ?
06:07.21Groktaridk
06:07.26cncfanatics(guild being in mostly heroic gear and some naxx stoof)
06:07.30Groktardepends on synergy/gear level
06:08.01cncfanaticsferal druid, 2 surv hunters, 2 rogues, a boomkin, an ele shammy
06:08.15quiescens4 minutes left is plenty of time to succeed
06:08.18Raydenso we just downed 4 horsemen on 10 man
06:08.29quiescenswhether its good depends on your definition of good I guess
06:08.32Groktarya, that's not exactly a great comp
06:08.43Raydenwe had 1 paladin, 2 mages, 5 druids, 2 rogues
06:08.45cncfanaticsRayden: yea, unfortunatly most didn't manage to get the drakes right :/
06:08.46Raydenguess which tier piece drops
06:09.36Raydenfortunately not the shaman, warrior, hunter piece
06:09.48Raydenisntead the paladin, warlock, priest. but the paladin already had it :(
06:10.03cncfanaticsRayden: l2takelessdroods :D
06:10.25Raydencan't
06:10.28Raydenour guild is flooded with them
06:10.39Raydenadding DK to the druid token was very bad for us
06:11.50Groktarin tbc we *hated* the vanq token
06:12.21quiescensshaman warrior hunter piece is pretty uncontested for us
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06:12.45Raydeni hated the paladin, rogue, shaman piece in kara
06:12.57Raydenthe helm dropped every time we didnt have any of those and i needed mine
06:13.05cncfanaticswe have a pretty good class balance here
06:13.08cncfanaticsbut we lack people overal
06:13.38VordeaMy guild gets Double Warrior/Hunter/Shaman Tier Tokens like 95% of the time
06:13.44VordeaWe never get the Druid or Pally tokens
06:14.11VordeaOur fury warrior had full Valourous after our first Naxxramas clear
06:14.19Raydenrofl
06:14.21Raydenlucky
06:14.31Raydenone time i guess a new paladin was brought into kara
06:14.35Raydenby the end of the night he was totally geared
06:14.55cncfanaticswe had the same for naxx
06:15.00cncfanaticsa pally trial at -250 dkp
06:15.03cncfanaticsonly pally gear dropped
06:15.17Rayden-250dkp?
06:15.18Raydenminus?
06:15.21Raydenhow does that work?
06:15.38cncfanatics65dkp per item, people with minus dkp are not allowed to roll against people with positive dkp
06:16.05cncfanaticsrather have people go in minus then having it sharded really
06:18.09Vordeacnc we do a different method. If gear drops only somebody with 0dkp can use, we take 5dkp per item off of their DKP they'd earn for the night
06:18.34cncfanaticswell, we're new so we much rather give it to someone then shard it
06:18.44cncfanaticsyour system wld have resulted in half that pally loot being sharded
06:18.51VordeaRe-read.
06:19.10VordeaWe take DKP off their DKP they'd earn that night.
06:19.16cncfanaticshe had used off MUCH more then that nights earnings
06:19.34VordeaWell at 5 per night and 5 per boss
06:19.39VordeaIt adds up quick.
06:19.42Raydeni sorta wish we used dkp
06:19.48Raydenbut my gulid is anti dkp
06:19.52Raydenwe pretend gear doesn't matter
06:19.54Vordea11 bosses in 1 night = 60dkp
06:20.08cncfanaticshow much does an item cost ?
06:20.10Raydenany of you guys use a scaling dkp cost?
06:20.16Raydenlike, it costs a % of your total dkp?
06:20.21VordeaNope
06:20.34Raydenit was suggested somwehre and i thought it was interesting
06:20.35VordeaWe open bids at 2dkp, 2 rounds of silent bidding, highest bidder in 2nd round wins
06:20.35Groktarwe do 1 dkp per hour, min bid 5 for weapons and 4 for everything else, silent bid
06:20.42Groktarsingle bid
06:20.43Raydenit prevents hoarding of dkp and inflation
06:20.44Vordeain event of tie it keeps going until no more ties
06:20.57cncfanaticswe use roll and loot council with a fixed dkp cost here
06:21.01VordeaIf only one person bids first round no second round
06:21.10Groktarhighest dkp gets it in event of a tie
06:21.11Raydenroll and loot council and dkp?
06:21.15Raydenyou guys got all the bases covered
06:21.17Groktarto prevent bidding wars
06:21.19Raydenother than "whoever clicks first"
06:21.36VordeaRayden my guild did that for a Karazhan run in 3.0.2
06:21.38VordeaIt was awesome
06:21.39cncfanatics:p
06:21.40Raydenmy old guild did fixed cost, whoever had highest dkp got it
06:21.43cncfanaticskind of a weird system we have
06:21.43VordeaI got like 15 pieces of loot
06:21.48Raydenwho ever loots first wins Vordea ?
06:21.49Raydenawesome
06:21.58Raydenit was on farm at the time then?
06:22.04VordeaYeah we all stacked on the boss at around 5%
06:22.08VordeaLike I said in 3.0.2
06:22.15VordeaRight before Wrath
06:22.29Vordeaon Prince the tankadin bubbled at 10% and let the fury warrior tank him
06:22.43Raydenrofl
06:22.50Raydentrying to get others dead?
06:22.56Raydenthat's awesome
06:22.57VordeaWe were very bored
06:23.06VordeaHell I spent all today doing pre-TBC stuff
06:23.14VordeaDid Onyxia, UBRS, BWL, AQ20 and most of AQ40
06:23.30VordeaDoing ZG and AQ20 tomorrow
06:23.36cncfanaticslol
06:23.49Raydensolo?
06:23.58VordeaOur strat for Supression Room was "zerg BroodlorD"
06:23.59cncfanaticsRayden: yes I know our system is weird
06:24.40VordeaWe actually wiped on Chromaggus with 10 level 80s
06:24.47VordeaCause we didn't know you had to get rid of Brood Afflictions
06:24.54quiescenslols
06:25.11VordeaAQ40 was epic fail at Twin Emps
06:25.46VordeaVeklor refused to move from where he teleported to and the Magic Immune guy refused to stay still
06:25.47Raydeni haven't done any pre bc raids
06:25.56Raydenno i guess i was in ZG to get someone a frog spell
06:26.01cncfanaticstwins aren't the kind of boss you can zerg :p
06:26.04VordeaHe'd immediately run to the physical immune tank
06:26.13VordeaYeah we didn't have enough tanks for them
06:26.34cncfanaticsI never got past them bitches back in vanilla
06:26.36VordeaProphet was hilarious cause he died before he could MC
06:26.45cncfanaticslol
06:26.58cncfanaticswe wiped so often on prophet back in the times too
06:27.03cncfanaticsfucking tards that couldn't stop dps
06:27.11Vordeaand now there's a running joke in my guild too
06:27.25Vordea"Guys I just got feared all the way down the tunnel on my mount, through these 4 packs of mobs and into the boss"
06:27.38VordeaWe were running around randomly aggroing shit
06:27.45VordeaLike you know the room with Moam in AQ20?
06:27.47cncfanaticsrofl
06:27.49VordeaWe aggroed the entire thing
06:28.02Vordeathe one with all the bugs who do the knockback charge
06:28.06cncfanaticsfail
06:28.08VordeaWe were getting punted all over the place
06:28.11VordeaIt was hilarious
06:28.17VordeaTook us like 45 minutes to kill them all
06:28.46VordeaThen we pulled Ossirian with 4 Anubisath Guardians
06:28.48Vordeaand aoed them down
06:29.30cncfanaticsossirian is a nab
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06:30.03VordeaHe is
06:30.10VordeaIn Supreme mode he was hitting our pally for
06:30.12Vordea70
06:30.36VordeaHe was like "wow this is Supreme? I thought he'd be like, shooting lazers out of his eyes and making the ground melt."
06:31.08VordeaHe didn't even know that General Rajaxx was a boss. He thought it was just trash
06:31.12cncfanaticshah, he used to
06:31.12VordeaUntil he looted him and saw purples
06:32.08Vordeaand he killed Kurinaxx without a healer
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06:32.28cncfanaticswe did that prebc ;)
06:32.37Vordealol Kurinaxx iz hurd
06:32.42cncfanaticskuri has always been a joke
06:32.49Groktargnaws on cncfanatics' face chimp-style
06:33.28VordeaEven funnier was ZG
06:33.36VordeaCause we 4 manned Jin'do
06:34.21Groktari tried to dual box bat boss on my priest/warrior
06:34.23Groktarcouldn't do it
06:34.33Groktarbecause i would have to move the priest out of the fire
06:34.44Groktarand then while i was doing it the stupid thing would heal
06:34.45Groktar:(
06:35.58VordeaYeah Hakkar was an even bigger joke
06:36.02VordeaDidn't even heal
06:37.25cncfanaticsfail Groktar
06:37.31cncfanaticsa friend of mine can just burst the bat down
06:37.34cncfanaticshe has 4 ele shammies :p
06:37.39Groktarlol
06:38.07cncfanaticsblizz nerfed him though
06:38.12cncfanaticssame type totems no longer stack
06:39.52VordeaI love Legostar Galactica
06:40.07Vordea"Mister O'riley, what is that?" "Well armed, sir." "See now this is more like the norm."
06:44.00Neeblershould I even bother logging into the wow website to check if character copys are available
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06:44.18VordeaNo
06:45.34taledenany suggestion for malygos with xperl unit frames?  I can't tell when he targets me cuz all the dragons look the same
06:45.47cncfanaticstaleden: get grid
06:45.56cncfanaticsand he does an emote when he target someone
06:45.59Endhe does do...yeah
06:46.03cncfanaticsmight just want to check if you're in that emote
06:46.23Enddoes he do an emote with names?
06:46.28EndI thought he just did an emote to you only
06:46.35dodga"Malygos fixes his eyes on you" is the emote iirc
06:46.38Endyeah
06:46.41taledeni didn't see any, does it appear in the chat log or only in the raid warning spot?
06:46.57dodgapops up in ChatFrame1 for me :D
06:47.05taledenyeah I see nothing in my scroll back
06:47.06quiescensit appears in your chat log if you have mob emotes showing
06:47.33taledenI have creature emotes enabled, but nothing :/
06:50.55VordeaI love how fail the Priest forums are
06:51.02VordeaSome guy thinks Silence is how you win against DKs
06:55.27quiescensevery little bit helps!
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07:03.52cncfanaticsVordea: what exactly does he plan to silence ,
07:03.55cncfanaticstheir big ass twohander ?
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07:16.55Maeloshey guys are there any addons which will summarize the combat log?
07:17.07Maelosmaybe some throttling as well
07:17.16MaelosI can't quite get what I want with the built-in filtering
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08:21.27RepoMalygosHelper: Reliability fix. Had problems getting it to function properly with the old method, so now it checks for spell cast, instead of SPELL_AURA_APPLIED_DOSE, which has no source information. It does have to add travel time to the spell instead now, so this has it's own issues. But the stacks should no longer be wrong at times.
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08:51.49cncfanaticsany way to get buff duration countdowns on grid on the icons ?
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08:56.30Elkanocode it...
08:56.49cncfanatics>.>
08:57.36cncfanaticscba
08:57.50Zyndromethen grab it around your thighs, and piledrive it
08:57.58cncfanaticsand damn, I have way too much stuff on my grid
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10:30.02Fisker-hey sexy Zeksie
10:32.03sb|workgiev ptr Fisker-
10:33.23nevcairielnoaw, too!
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10:34.19nevcairiellol char copy is to 26 days
10:35.10sb|workand still no successful copy here ;o
10:35.24nevcairielof course not
10:35.28nevcairielthe servers are not there
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10:35.31nevcairielso it cant copy yet
10:35.33sb|workmh..
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10:37.06SunTsuZeksie: On ZOMGBuffs, why aren't shaman shields mutual exclusive? I can have both water and lightning shields active and ZOMG always tries to buff them both, always reporting the other as missing
10:37.33sb|workwell, content sucks, so everybody wants to be on ptr - so it will suck (performance wise) too :(
10:38.17nevcairielptr performance always sucks
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10:38.22nevcairielat least EU has more then one this time
10:39.30sb|workyup
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10:39.46sb|workso dont use EU EN server ;)
10:40.02Fisker-EU servers are only up because they have to
10:40.41sb|workFisker-: uhm - they are not up!
10:41.16nevcairielEU will even get soem exclusive bosses in ulduar to test this time
10:41.25sb|workyup, i like that idea
10:41.46Fisker-Only because they can pretend working by looking at us
10:41.55Fisker-and because they have to
10:41.55sb|workso you cant test + kill all bosses on ptr
10:42.05Fisker-to give a feeling that EU matters etc.
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10:43.03sb|workmeh, i think DE server was a bad idea.. but will see :p
10:44.50Fisker-FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU
10:45.12nevcairieli should've copied a char on a spanish realm or so
10:45.36nevcairielOh well all i want is patch notes and ui changes anyway =P
10:45.51sb|workyup, some low population realm
10:46.00sb|workmh, i want to test this dualspec thingie
10:46.11nevcairieldont need good performance to do that, though
10:46.28sb|workand see how it does interact with ui stuff
10:46.37sb|workany idea what will happen to 'your' (bt) bars?
10:47.03linear`how could he possibly know
10:47.37nevcairielIf they require fixes, they will be fixed :p
10:47.38sb|workhow many buttons are used by blizz standard ui?
10:48.06nevcairieldepends on your class
10:48.19Endhopefully the client just fires the action button changed event and is done with it ;-) Although it'll fire once for every single button :-/
10:49.13nevcairieldefault ui uses 6 bars, which is 72 buttons, plus swap bars, 1 for rogue, 3 for druids/warriors
10:51.14sb|workso 3 bars 'left' for dual-spec stuff if they dont extend their button system
10:52.46Cheadscould have specs saving the settings at their servers like the macros ?
10:53.05nevcairielThey will save them on the server and they'll switch when you switch spec
10:53.09nevcairielno random bar usage
10:53.54Fisker-if bartender4 doesn't work asap i'll hurt nevcairiel
10:54.02Fisker-best motivator there is
10:54.05nevcairieli cant wait!
10:58.00sb|workyoutube or didnt happen
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11:03.08Arrowmasternevcairiel: remember his character name is Fiskerdin if you want to specificly not work for him
11:03.20nevcairieli know, i know
11:03.25nevcairielalready in teh works
11:03.44nevcairielYou know, i ran out of buttons today =( 10 bars is not enough
11:04.08evl120 buttons isn't enough?
11:04.13evlwhat you you play, McGyver?
11:04.20winkillerI'd be even more scared if it was Fisterdin
11:04.33nevcairielit would be, but i cant use every single button
11:04.41winkillerevl: did you make those SliceDice-bar-thingies?
11:05.09nevcairielcreates more macros to save space
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11:05.41winkillerlunchtime.
11:05.47winkillerif you did... great job!
11:05.54winkillerswitched from Cutup and not looking back
11:09.42sb|work@project SliceDice-bar-thingies
11:09.44Reposb|work: No project found that matches 'slicedice-bar-thingies'
11:09.45sb|workmeh!
11:10.20nevcairiellol
11:11.00nevcairielhttp://wow.curseforge.com/projects/evl/pages/slice-dice/
11:11.01nevcairielprobably
11:11.49sb|workhmm yup
11:11.56sb|workwtb :)
11:12.03nevcairieljust download :p
11:12.22sb|workno wow at work :(
11:12.26nevcairielhah
11:12.39nevcairielI wish they fix handling of pets and mounts in 3.1 on action bars
11:12.51Repo10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm 04v3.52 * r65 : Tagging as v3.52
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11:21.20Endnevcairiel: you mean how it gives 0, "spell", 0?
11:21.25evloh those bars yeah
11:21.31evlI'm making new ones though :(
11:21.31nevcairielya thats annoying End
11:21.36Endl2tooltip scan!
11:21.37End:(
11:22.11sb|workevl: no ones? why?
11:22.14sb|workerrr new
11:22.21evlmaking some icon based ones for funs
11:22.25evland it will also include cooldowns
11:22.31sb|workand CPs?
11:22.33evlso buffs, debuffs, cooldowns in one happy mod (hopefully)
11:22.37sb|workand current energy?
11:22.38sb|work;)
11:22.41evleh no
11:22.42evl:)
11:23.17evlMaking configuration for mods that are supposed to be micro is pretty hard :(
11:23.31evlPortfolio is pretty good and all but you're tied to a library none the less
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11:25.05[Ammo]you don't need a lib for config if you're SMRT
11:25.53evlI checked some of tek's stuff
11:26.02[Ammo]check out AddonLoader
11:26.08[Ammo]it has some simple config
11:26.31evlnone the less you still have to wait for variables loaded, handle defaults, initialization and callbacks
11:26.34evlon top of the guy
11:26.38evlgui*
11:26.39[Ammo]shrug
11:26.42[Ammo]easy
11:27.23evlI'll check it outz
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11:29.21winkillerevl: just being able to move without touching lua would be enough for most people I guess :P
11:29.45evlwell yeah, I suppose but you're going to have to get your hands dirty at some point.
11:29.58evlthere are plenty of mods with bells and whistles for those who refuse
11:30.11evl[Ammo]: yeah that's sort of like tekKonfig, probably going to go for that
11:30.30winkillermoving is not bells and whistles, ffs :P
11:31.01winkiller/command left 10/20/45 would be enough already
11:31.03[Ammo]evl: yeah somewhat indeed
11:31.04evlfor me it is, I move it once and it stays like that for a lot of time :D
11:31.19[Ammo]a simple unlock and alt-drag
11:31.21evlnobody paid me (yet) to be user friendly ;D
11:31.24[Ammo]:)
11:31.28[Ammo]time for lunch
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11:31.35evlcya
11:31.37winkillerdon't tempt me to submit a patch :P
11:31.55evlfeel tempted but I'll most likely ignore anything that is whatever-drag
11:32.12evlpeople who drag shit aren't nearly concerned enough about pixel positioning :(
11:32.42winkillerI said /move <dir> <amount>, not drag :|
11:33.01winkillerbut no worries, I'm probably too lazy anyway
11:33.18winkillerI still haven't found the perfect spot, so I'm reloading and reloading
11:33.55Fisker-eats [Ammo]'s lunch :3
11:34.01evlI have something that works with Portfilio but i don't really want a library at all
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12:31.59Fisker-is there a script command for leaving a battleground?
12:32.58Megalonyou mean like LeaveBattlefield()? ;o
12:33.15Fisker-yeah
12:33.18sb|workbah, i'm going to kick all female players soon
12:33.23sb|workkick=gkick
12:33.31quiescensreported
12:33.54sb|work"*cry* why not taking me to sartharion3d?" - "because you are caster and i dont want to take more than 2" - "but.. *crycry* you hate me..."
12:34.07evlWe just bring obama and a tank
12:34.19Fisker-Bring the player not the class
12:34.20Fisker-OH WAIT
12:34.39evlthey never said that would apply to all fights
12:34.44evlotherwise just bring 25 druids?
12:34.54Fisker-actually they did
12:35.07robotuschQuotes taken out out of context is quotes taken out of context
12:35.09Fisker-they just said it shouldn't apply to "wacky" group compositions as the one you're listing
12:35.17evllet's just say hardcore modes don't apply there
12:35.19Fisker-nah
12:35.26Fisker-context is fine, they just need to learn2express
12:35.30robotuschnah
12:35.34Fisker-lets say it doesn't EvilJohn
12:35.35sb|workwell its the player not the class
12:35.35Fisker-evl
12:35.38sb|workbecause "caster" is no class :p
12:35.39evlso you want even the most hardcore ways to deal with content to require only players and not class specifics?
12:35.46sb|worki dont care if its 2 locks, 2 mages, 1 shadow + 1 mage, etc..
12:35.47robotuschthey just need to make a "No Quote" script for everything they say, write or do
12:35.48sb|work:)
12:35.48evlinteresting game that would be
12:35.54Fisker-yes evl
12:36.07Groktarfor fisker: http://www.guild-impulse.net/gallery/pic.php?mode=med&pic_id=29
12:36.15Fisker-Hard content should be doable because you have good players, not because you have perfect group compositions
12:36.32evlYou can be as good player as you want
12:36.38evlas long as your players play the FOTM class
12:36.58evlIt's a no brainer to bring a fury warrior over a say rogue to sarth 3d
12:37.05evlrogue will die, fury can tank the adds
12:37.11Fisker-yes
12:37.21Groktaryour rogues die?
12:37.21sb|workevl: i have fury + rogue :p
12:37.24Groktarbad rogues :(
12:37.26evlbut i want to bring just rogues
12:37.26evlfor DPS
12:37.34evland they need to be able to tank the acolytes
12:37.53sb|workor cyring at me that i wont rotate for naxx undying
12:38.14sb|workffs, people dont want to go to naxx anymore, its just this f**** achievement :o
12:38.29Groktari don't think it's unreasonable for blizz to expect you to bring at least 1 of feral druid/ret pally/fury warr/dk for dps on sarth3d
12:38.30evlachivements are fun :)
12:38.48evlI remember doing Gotta Go! prenerf for 8 hours
12:38.50sb|workso i should say "hey, she wants to try it... please sit out... if we can do it today, well.. i'm sure you will find another group for undying"
12:38.57sb|work*sigh* :)
12:39.00evlI got physically ill just seeing the name of the instance for like a week after
12:39.05Fisker-i can't get to either sartharion 3d or malygos on 6 minutes because i'm a ret pala and our other best players are casters
12:39.15Fisker-so i'll have to respec tank or wait until we outgear it
12:39.32nevcairielYou just suck then, our ret palas do good dps :P
12:39.51Fisker-no
12:40.05Fisker-Because you either optimize for melee, or you optimize for ranged
12:40.07Fisker-not both
12:40.33winkillerwe optimize for fun
12:40.36nevcairielyou can do both easily :p
12:40.45Fisker-not in a 10-man
12:41.16evlyou can't really do sarth 3d without deciding melee or caster
12:41.26evl10 man thatis
12:42.33evl[Ammo]: that config idea was brilliant, I liked the inner functions to make it light as a fiddle! :)
12:44.03Groktartouches evl
12:47.22Pneumatuswe dont optimise for melee/ranged on sarth+3 :o
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12:59.12KalrothOn 25+3 you can go with whatever, on 10+3 it either requires a druid with a lot of fire resist or 2-3 hunters :)
12:59.35nevcairielhunters?
13:00.10Fisker-goes with 25 retribution paladins
13:00.22SunTsu<PROTECTED>
13:00.59Pneumatushunters? :o
13:01.43Pneumatus1 rogue with the poison that dispels frenzy > hunters
13:05.33robotuschI thought fire resistance had been deemed useless?
13:05.49robotuschor rather, too unreliable
13:06.03nevcairielresistance is much more reliable then it was before WotLK
13:06.14nevcairieldue to 10% steps now
13:06.46nevcairielyou can get a 30% resist guarantee (averages at alot more) with 277 resist
13:08.35nevcairielI think the number was revised though, its a bit higher then 277 now
13:09.55nevcairielEJ has a long threat about the mechanics
13:11.16evlWhat's that fast way to access globals again? I bet it's not getglobal
13:11.49nevcairiel_G["name"]
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13:26.05mjcItemPimper is neat.
13:26.15mjcreally lame name, but neat.
13:27.41mjcratingbuster doesn't show enchants on the items though :/
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13:33.17stolenlegacy~seen pettigrew
13:33.21purli haven't seen 'pettigrew', stolenlegacy
13:33.48stolenlegacy~seen pettigrow
13:33.48purlstolenlegacy: i haven't seen 'pettigrow'
13:33.56stolenlegacy~seen Pettigrow
13:33.57purli haven't seen 'pettigrow', stolenlegacy
13:33.59stolenlegacydammit
13:34.43SunTsumjc: Looks nice, but do I really want an addon from a guy who writes "blacksmither"? ;)
13:34.56mjcSunTsu: lol
13:34.57mjcdunno
13:37.13Fisker-~seen pussy
13:37.14purlFisker-: i haven't seen 'pussy'
13:37.17Fisker-hoho
13:37.19Fisker-HOOHOHOHOOH
13:41.05Fisker-harasses nevcairiel
13:43.24Megalonso finally purl and Fisker- have something in common
13:43.31MegalonHOHOHO
13:43.52Fisker-:(
13:44.26Groktarfiskerrrrrrrr
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13:44.30Groktardid you click my link?
13:45.10Fisker-what link?
13:45.27winkillerSunTsu: what would you say to "Inscriptioner"? :)
13:45.29Groktarhttp://angryhosting.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/12/12a47435c582de432d7fb0b0e1aad28f682004f3.jpg
13:45.49Fisker-yeah
13:46.48SunTsuwinkiller: I have a hard time, getting used to guys calling taylors "taylorers". I actually read "Schneiderer" on regular basis in ingame chat
13:47.02Groktartaylors?
13:47.03Groktarreally?
13:47.20Fisker-jewelcrafters = jewcrafters
13:47.28Fisker-i lol every time
13:48.34Pneumatus"LF JC" sounds like they need to go to a church :o
13:49.06winkillerSunTsu: yeah :P
13:49.11winkillerLF BSer
13:49.24SaT|Mayari540 deff
13:51.34SaT|MayariLF DDler
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13:52.45Megalonthe joy of playing on deDE realms
13:53.27Megalonwhere grammar and spelling are reinvented every day
13:53.31winkillerlol
13:53.59SaT|Mayariits a own language
13:54.00winkillerwell, I sometimes question humanity on EU servers as well
13:54.05SunTsuMegalon: s/on deDE realms// ;)
13:54.50winkillerInze is also something that calls for http://bash.org/?4281
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13:57.33MegalonIf you're just burned out, it's also not the worst thing in the world to try out some other games
13:57.53Megalonhaha, i think soon there will be a new job opening at blizzard. for creating loading tips :P
13:57.54winkilleryeah, there's Warcraft3. and Diablo II
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14:04.15Repo10malygosflamer: 03stolenlegacy * r19 MalygosFlamer.lua: Added Features:
14:04.18Repo- MalygosFlamer now reports all expired debuffs at the end of the day.
14:04.21Repo- frFR localization has been added (thanks to Pettigrow of wowace for the localization)
14:05.41stolenlegacyI always love when they have a macro where they just edit what classes they need
14:06.06stolenlegacylike "LFM Naxxramas 25man, 3 healer, only 3k dps+, /w (gearcheck dalaran)"
14:06.23stolenlegacyi like healers doing 3k dps while keeping everyone alive, you know :)
14:17.51Fisker-pew pew
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14:21.07robotuschwe had a DK in our Naxx25 run that managed around 700 dps :D
14:21.15robotuschSo naturally he's in our guild now
14:21.45winkillerthat's pretty insane
14:21.46NeeblerLOL
14:21.56Fisker-700 dps is pretty nice
14:21.58winkillerthink if I unequipped my MH I'd be doing 700 as well
14:21.59SaT|Mayari700dps the whole raid?
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14:22.53robotuschnah, I switched off my dps meter halfway through, but he scored about 700-1000 dps on most of the fights
14:23.14SaT|Mayaritell him to use "masters of ghoul" to double the dps
14:23.44winkillereven facerolling with a decently sized nose should yield more dps...
14:23.51winkillerunless he's a clicker and has no bound keys
14:24.09robotuschbugger, didn
14:24.09Repo10prescription: 03Starinnia * r94 / (2 files in 1 directory): drop embeds.xml usage
14:24.18robotuschbugger, didn't get a screenshot of our 25man run :/
14:24.21SunTsurobotusch: I had a lvl 80 warlock in Halls of Lightning normal mode that did a whopping 63 dps, 200 in a fight he tried hard.
14:24.22cncfanaticsis there any addon that can make some bindable action buttons that don't use actionids ?
14:24.25cncfanaticsI need like 5-6
14:24.30robotuscho_O
14:24.34robotuschmelee warlock?
14:25.00robotuschhttp://mmad.dk/wow/WoWScrnShot_021809_220618.jpg <3
14:25.16robotuschjust a shame I replaced both shoulders & head with T7.5 >_>
14:26.19SunTsurobotusch: then there was a hunter doing 500 dps in Ahn Kahet hc, which I kicked, telling him that I did more dps on my hunter in greens, back in Karazhan, he replied with "Well, this isn't Karazhan, it's just a heroic!"
14:26.55Repo10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r115 / (4 files in 2 directories): drop embeds.xml usage
14:27.37Groktarcasts Repo into the river of fire
14:28.20evlSunTsu: epic
14:28.20cncfanaticsSunTsu: doesn't autoshot do more then 500 dps ?
14:28.39SaT|Mayarieven without bow :)
14:28.59SunTsucncfanatics: Yeah, and a imp alone does more than 63 dps...
14:29.03Groktarwhat's autoshot, like 30%?
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14:38.09cncfanaticshow can you do 63 dps ?
14:38.11cncfanaticswas he level 10 ?
14:38.25cncfanaticsor still using rank 1 spells
14:39.07SunTsucncfanatics: I don't know. What's worse, I read his name in Naxx' general chat a few days afterwards
14:39.18cncfanaticsrofl
14:39.21cncfanatics63 dps in naxx ftw
14:39.41cncfanaticsanyone can suggest me a bar addon that lets me place buttons independantly ?
14:39.46cncfanaticsI don't have enough with 10 groups :(
14:40.45Stanzillahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX2eLNo0G6Y&feature=related I can't stop listening to that >.<
14:40.57cncfanaticsrickroll ?
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14:43.44Stanzillano :P
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15:01.23Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=8136555343&postId=81360337267&sid=1#18 <-i lol'd
15:02.58steevirl?
15:03.44steevwhat kool-aid is that guy drinking?
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15:14.06stolenlegacy!api UnitAffectingCombat
15:14.07lua_botDocumentation for 'UnitAffectingCombat' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitAffectingCombat
15:18.55stolenlegacyhow do I check whether a raid member is in my zone? UnitAffectingCombat returns nil if they are in another zone :(
15:18.59Fisker-irl indeed steev
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15:21.15nevcairielstolenlegacy: if they are not in your zone, you can assume they are out of combat anyway, shouldnt that be good? :)
15:21.40Twisted-Transiststolenlegacy ora2 has zone checking might want 2 take a look at that 4 what ever you want
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15:22.26stolenlegacynevcairiel: but if someone with the addon releases his spirit...
15:22.34stolenlegacyoh well, then the entire addon should stop to work
15:22.55nevcairielthey dont get combatlog stuff either then
15:22.57nevcairielso screw them
15:23.00stolenlegacyyeah
15:23.17stolenlegacywell, that means i gotta die to one of the aces high mobs to see if the "wipe" check works
15:23.27stolenlegacythat's the hard part :( those do such crappy damage
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15:25.05nevcairieljust pull three
15:26.07stolenlegacyoh
15:26.10stolenlegacyjust remembered
15:26.14stolenlegacythose don't kill you :)
15:26.20stolenlegacythey just kill your drake
15:26.40nevcairielmalygos doesnt kill you either
15:26.44nevcairielyou fall to death
15:26.49nevcairielyou could do the same for aces high
15:26.50nevcairielhah
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15:27.22Fisker-anyone saw heath ledgers speech yesterday?
15:27.27Fisker-Neither did i LOLOLOL
15:27.27Fisker-etc.
15:27.28OlisonEH EH EH
15:27.30stolenlegacywell, sometimes malygos DOES kill you
15:27.34stolenlegacywhich is goo
15:27.35stolenlegacyd
15:27.39Fisker-highfives Olison
15:27.46Olisonhighfives Fisker-
15:27.50stolenlegacyan surge eaten by a falling player doesn't hit others' drakes
15:28.01nevcairieldont highfive the troll
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15:29.11stolenlegacynevcairiel: is there any way to end an function inside an if statement?
15:29.20nevcairielreturn? :)
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15:29.31Repo10hidelooted: 03Pneumatus * r8 HideLooted.lua: - Switch to managing all options through a GUI
15:29.34Repo- Allow loot to be hidden by rarity
15:29.37Fisker-what troll nevcairiel ?
15:29.38stolenlegacydoes return work without args?
15:29.43stolenlegacyor should i just do return nil
15:29.55nevcairielworks without args too
15:30.07nevcairiellua> return
15:30.08lua_botnevcairiel: No output
15:30.11Pneumatushmm, i get a feeling one of my translations is gonna not work as its got an \n in
15:30.12nevcairiellua> return nil
15:30.12lua_botnevcairiel: nil
15:30.16Fisker-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p95zWsAmTyw&feature=related :O
15:30.17nevcairielsee, difference :)
15:30.52stolenlegacyyep
15:32.10nevcairielnow, giev ptr
15:32.38sb|workyup, giev.. devs should be alive now :p
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15:33.23Fisker-devs been alive for the whole weekend sb|work
15:33.55Twisted-Transisthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tCu0JkN9nc&NR=1
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15:34.03sb|workthey should hurry now, overflow in copy queue count could cause shutdown on all live servers! :p
15:34.13sb|workFisker-: :(
15:34.22sb|workare you sure about that?
15:34.25onaforeignshorereturn just returns control... return nil returns a value, i.e. nil
15:34.38stolenlegacyonaforeignshore: got it
15:34.50stolenlegacyaw friggin
15:34.56stolenlegacynow i clicked off the parachute
15:34.58stolenlegacyin order to ie
15:34.59stolenlegacydie
15:35.14stolenlegacynow i've placed my body in an unreachable location -.-
15:35.30nevcairiellol
15:36.23stolenlegacyon the spires of the tower starting the bridge that leads into the nexus
15:36.34nevcairieli think i had my body there too once
15:36.38stolenlegacygotta try to get into rez range by jumping :)
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15:37.01stolenlegacysince nexus doesn't have a spirit gryphon circle, afaik
15:37.24sb|workjust order a guildie to rezz you :o
15:37.54stolenlegacynoone's on atm :(
15:38.00sb|workuhm
15:38.30Repo10hidelooted: 03Pneumatus 04v1.1.0 * r9 : Tagging as v1.1.0
15:39.04AckisWork10 am GMT = 3 am at MST (-7) correct?
15:39.26stolenlegacyit's 4:39 PM here
15:39.33stolenlegacydunno why anyone is on
15:39.36stolenlegacystrange at this time
15:39.50PneumatusAckis: yup
15:40.20stolenlegacydammit, can't get into range
15:40.27stolenlegacyguess that means rez sickness for me :(
15:40.37stolenlegacyglad i'm wearing leather
15:40.39stolenlegacynot plate
15:40.43onaforeignshoreask in general for a res
15:40.51stolenlegacyonaforeignshore: already did
15:40.53stolenlegacyno response
15:41.15stolenlegacyoh well, the 30 gold i can farm in a few minutes *shrug*
15:41.26stolenlegacyand this time i'll check where i die :D
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15:43.44steevwoot
15:43.51steevwe downed thaddius last night
15:44.00steevonly had 1 person fail at polarity shift
15:44.23stolenlegacynevcairiel: isn't a function allowed to ScheduleTimer itself?
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15:45.44SunTsustolenlegacy: Hehe, I recently switched my main tank char from druid to death knight - and that financially was epic fail ;)
15:46.23stolenlegacySunTsu: spec him unholy tank
15:46.35stolenlegacyshadow of death ghoul explode means no rep cost
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15:52.14SunTsustolenlegacy: Yeah, I did ;) But still higher rep costs, unfortunately. But it's more fun, so that is more than OK.
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15:56.27steevhave they released the 3.1 dk changes yet?
15:56.40ElkanoHaving a Moonkin heal for "Party is Over" is almost suicide ^^
15:56.43steevSunTsu: i've got almost 4k g in respecs
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15:56.59steev3666 to be exact
15:57.09steev79 respecs :(
15:57.41steevhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-statistics.xml?r=Draka&n=Steev - click Character
15:58.28SunTsusteev: whoa
15:59.01stolenlegacyElkano: then why are you? :)
15:59.14SunTsuI only did 10, by now
15:59.16stolenlegacyget a real healer :)
15:59.36stolenlegacyhttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-statistics.xml?r=Azshara&n=Treeston
15:59.39SunTsutwo of them just because I wanted to test my new gear with a more damage oriented specc
15:59.55stolenlegacyonly 5 respecs :D
16:00.24Elkanowell, I was the Moonkin ^^
16:00.38stolenlegacyElkano: y'know what?
16:00.40stolenlegacygo respec :D
16:00.41stolenlegacy:D
16:00.46Elkanobut the healer was the only one who wasn't interested in the archivement ^^
16:00.52Elkanowell, we managed it by now :)
16:00.54Pneumatuswhat i want to know is, why the hell has a DK drunk 13 honeymint teas :o
16:01.12stolenlegacysighs.
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16:01.25steevPneumatus: shits and giggles, bored and so forth
16:01.29stolenlegacyhow the friggin did i again place my body on top of those friggin rings?
16:01.41stolenlegacygrmpf, nuffer 20g :(
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16:01.55stolenlegacyaddon testing really is costly
16:02.07nevcairiellol
16:02.44nevcairieloh man, i'm at 23 daily quests done for today, and i still havent done nearly all o.o
16:02.50pentium166bank all your gear? :p
16:03.05Pneumatusyeh, there's like 40 to chose from now or something silly
16:03.19stolenlegacypentium166: and fly for 12 minutes to dalaran, and then back to coldarra (nuffer 12 min=?
16:03.37nevcairielI only did all in Icecrown and the Argent Crusade one in ZD (well ok its multiple quests)
16:03.38pentium166how much time would it take you to make back that money?
16:04.14pentium166i guess it doesn't matter if you have a lot and you don't need to buy anything
16:04.39stolenlegacyi just managed to fall next to the malygos instance portal oO
16:04.48steevSunTsu: it happens like this... i was requested to tank... i login, switch back to dps spec... they ask me to tank again, so i switch, right after respeccing, emotank decides he will tank afterall, so i go back to dps spec
16:05.08steevthe ... after requested to tank shows a log out after doing the tanking
16:05.30SunTsusteev: That's the point where I tell them to go to hell and stop bothering me ;)
16:05.37nevcairielsteev: you're silly to play with people like that, if i respec for a group, i don't spec back, screw the emo tank that went out :P
16:05.38steevso now, im in a weird spec, where I don't have anticipation
16:06.00steevbut i can tank or i can dps just by switching gears
16:06.31steev560 defense :)
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16:07.12steevand i laugh when people try to kill me when i am the fc in wsg
16:07.33SunTsusteev: I normally do dps in tanking specc, except I am going to naxx or something as dps, which normally won't happen.
16:07.33pentium166until a hunter comes along
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16:07.57steevpentium166: eh? hunters don't bother me at all, i just yank em in and chains of ice
16:08.05steevthe other day i did over 1 mil damage in wsg
16:08.06pentium166oh, death knight
16:08.20jaegerI've been telling him emotank isn't worth the trouble :P
16:08.26steevjaeger: HUSH YOU
16:08.29jaeger:P
16:08.35steevyeah i know he isn't
16:08.46steevbut his wife left the guild so maybe, just maybe, he will too
16:08.47Fisker-spartans?
16:09.07Olisonffffssss Fisker-, are you `-FISKER-Q on quakenet?
16:09.27nevcairielhe probably is
16:09.38nevcairielwe laughed at him for that name, so he changed it here
16:10.11SunTsupoints his finger at Fisker-
16:10.18Fisker-fu nevcairiel
16:10.23AckisWorknevcairiel: you laugh at me but I don't change OR go away
16:10.25kenlyricthat's hilarious
16:10.45nevcairielAckisWork: you will, dont you worry :)
16:10.46Fisker-you ruined my secret identity nevcairiel
16:11.13AckisWorknevcairiel: nope, it's been almost a year and I'm just as annoying as ever... at least you have my PM's blocked however :P
16:11.52nevcairielnah i just ignore them manually
16:11.53nevcairielits more fun
16:12.01Pneumatushmm, cant decide if i should drop herbalism for skinning on my druid
16:12.04AckisWorkyah I figured :P
16:12.08AckisWork@project arl
16:12.10RepoAckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Jim-Bim (Author), Zhinjio (Author), Elkano (Tester), ananhaid (Translator), andy52005 (Translator), Dessa (Translator), Pettigrow (Translator), Pneumatus (Translator), Primaxina (Translator), Swix (Translator). Updated: 3 days ago. Tickets: 11/392
16:12.11AckisWorkhi Pneumatus
16:12.14AckisWorksup Pneumatus
16:12.17AckisWorkhow's it going Pneumatus
16:12.19nevcairieldruids are teh awesome for herbalism
16:12.20Pneumatusmaster of anatomy seems much more useful than lifeblood
16:12.20SunTsuPneumatus: what would you do it for?
16:12.23AckisWorkare you busy Pneumatus
16:12.42Pneumatusbut yeh, flower picking in birdform is pretty win, even though i dont really herb on my druid
16:12.45AckisWorklua> for i=1,100,1 do print("Pneumatus") end
16:12.45lua_botAckisWork: Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pneumatus, Pne... (result truncated)
16:13.09Fisker-lua> for i=1,100,1 do print("AckisWork") end
16:13.10lua_botFisker-: AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, Ack... (result truncated)
16:13.15Fisker-i wonder if you can trick it
16:13.19Fisker-lua> for i=1,100,1 do print("AckisWork\n") end
16:13.20lua_botFisker-: AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, AckisWork, ... (result truncated)
16:13.22Fisker-fu
16:13.24stolenlegacylua> if Pneumatus = "dumb" then print("Pneumatus is silly") end
16:13.24lua_botstolenlegacy: luabot:1: 'then' expected near '='
16:13.27AckisWorklol
16:13.28SunTsuPneumatus: If you don't use herbalism I'd switch
16:13.34stolenlegacylua> if Pneumatus = "dumb" then print("Pneumatus is silly")
16:13.34lua_botstolenlegacy: luabot:1: 'then' expected near '='
16:13.36steevstolenlegacy: fail@lua
16:13.40stolenlegacy:(
16:13.44PneumatusSunTsu: well, i tend to herb on my priest who's also my alchemist
16:14.11SunTsuPneumatus: Then I'd switch, absolutely
16:14.12Pneumatusalthough i could arguably drop herbalism on my priest and take up tailoring or something
16:14.18Pneumatusand then herb with my druid
16:15.08stolenlegacylua> if "Pneumatus" = "dumb" then print("Pneumatus is silly");
16:15.09lua_botstolenlegacy: luabot:1: 'then' expected near '='
16:15.19stolenlegacyi already have a then oO
16:15.25Pneumatus==, failboat
16:15.31stolenlegacylua> if "Pneumatus" = "dumb" then print("Pneumatus is silly"); end end
16:15.31lua_botstolenlegacy: luabot:1: 'then' expected near '='
16:15.34stolenlegacy:(:(:(I
16:15.43stolenlegacyi hate debugging :(
16:15.58Pneumatusyou're trying to assign a string to a string as a condition
16:16.04Pneumatuswhich is never going to work...
16:16.24stolenlegacydoesn't that return 1 if the operation was successfull?
16:16.37nevcairiel25 dailys full, stupid limit
16:16.40cncfanaticsit will never be
16:16.47stolenlegacylua != php
16:16.54stolenlegacye.g. lua ~= php
16:17.11steevnevcairiel: choose wiser
16:17.11nevcairieleven in php = is not comparison
16:17.18stolenlegacynevcairiel: i know
16:17.19SunTsunevcairiel: Get more toons ;)
16:17.24cncfanaticslua> if stolenlegacy = "dumb" then print("stolenlegacy is dumb"); end
16:17.25lua_botcncfanatics: luabot:1: 'then' expected near '='
16:17.33cncfanaticsmooo
16:17.33stolenlegacybut in php that returns 1 because it was successful :)
16:17.35nevcairielSunTsu: i have, but i do it for the reputation, not the money =p
16:17.56stolenlegacylua> if 1 then print("1 means true") else print("1 doesn't mean true") end
16:17.57lua_botstolenlegacy: 1 means true
16:18.01stolenlegacysee? :)
16:18.23Pneumatustbh
16:18.24Pneumatuslua> if "stolenlegacy" == "dumb" or true then print("stolenlegacy is dumb"); end
16:18.25stolenlegacyif it would return 1 like it does in php, the if would be correct
16:18.25lua_botPneumatus: stolenlegacy is dumb
16:18.35stolenlegacyor true? n1 :D
16:18.46Pneumatuswell it wasnt gonna output otherwise :P
16:19.06stolenlegacydoes \n work as newline in lua?
16:19.20stolenlegacylua> if --"pneumatus is dumb is"
16:19.20lua_botstolenlegacy: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '<eof>'
16:19.28stolenlegacydammit pressed enter by mistake :D
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16:19.49stolenlegacylua> if --"pneumatus is dumb is" \n true then print("Pneumatus is dumb") end
16:19.50lua_botstolenlegacy: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '<eof>'
16:19.51Pneumatus*facepalm
16:19.55stolenlegacyoh wenn :(
16:20.01stolenlegacywell*
16:20.18stolenlegacysucks at lua contests
16:21.07steevlua>print("stolenlegacy fails at lua almost as much as steev")
16:21.07lua_botsteev: stolenlegacy fails at lua almost as much as steev
16:21.21stolenlegacylua> pneumatus = "dumb"; if pneumatus == "dumb" then print("pneumatus is dumb") else print("stolenlegacy fails") end
16:21.21lua_botstolenlegacy: pneumatus is dumb
16:21.25stolenlegacy:D
16:21.44Pneumatusgrats, that only took you like 15 mins :o
16:22.08stolenlegacy<PROTECTED>
16:22.36pentium166clearly the channel needs a php_bot for maximum funny code
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16:22.43stolenlegacyand don't tell me /emotes don't take names as arguments, i know that
16:22.52Pneumatuslua> ("stolenlegacy fails! "):rep(10)
16:22.53lua_botPneumatus: stolenlegacy fails! stolenlegacy fails! stolenlegacy fails! stolenlegacy fails! stolenlegacy fails! stolenlegacy fails! stolenlegacy fails! stolenlegacy fails! stolenlegacy fails! stolenlegacy fails!
16:23.05Pneumatuswec
16:23.07Pneumatusetc
16:23.33Fisker-lua> ("stolenlegacy fails! "):rep(1\0)
16:23.33lua_botFisker-: luabot:1: ')' expected near '\'
16:23.34Pneumatusso anyway, druids + weapon skill, what's the point in that? :o
16:23.36Fisker-ffffffuuuuuuuu
16:24.00nevcairielPneumatus: achievements!
16:24.03stolenlegacylua> ("Fisker fails"):rep(2):rep(10)
16:24.04lua_botstolenlegacy: Fisker failsFisker failsFisker failsFisker failsFisker failsFisker failsFisker failsFisker failsFisker failsFisker failsFisker failsFisker failsFisker failsFisker failsFisker failsFisker failsFisker failsFisker failsFisker failsFisker fails
16:24.07stolenlegacy:D
16:24.40Pneumatusnevcairiel: levelling druid weapon skill is just as painful as it was levelling it on my priest it seems :o
16:25.00nevcairieli don't have one above 400
16:25.01Pneumatusi spent hours punching shoveltusks on my priest
16:25.03AckisWorkI found leveling weapon skill in wrath 1000x easier than in BC and original
16:25.11Fisker-no u stolenlegacy
16:25.28nevcairiela/above/at/
16:25.30nevcairielof course :)
16:25.35stolenlegacyphp> echo "test"
16:25.40stolenlegacyno phpbot :(
16:25.53stolenlegacylua> print("Hello World!")
16:25.53lua_botstolenlegacy: Hello World!
16:25.55SunTsuyou wouldn't think ;)
16:25.56nevcairielmy closest is 1h mace with 399, i usually just slap autoattack on during healing :P
16:25.58stolenlegacy:D
16:26.12StanzillaI used that mob in the obsidian dragonshrine
16:26.16Pneumatusmy highest is 293 staves
16:26.19Stanzillaand gargoyles in icecrown
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16:27.00nevcairielright, where are those gargoyles? i missed the memo
16:27.01Twisted-Transisti just dw what ever it is im trying to lvl
16:27.04Pneumatusi dont even have 400 def on my druid yet
16:27.11Pneumatusthe last point is taking forever
16:27.13nevcairielplay feral more
16:27.21Pneumatusi do, ive tanked numerous heroics
16:27.27Pneumatusand still havnt ticked the last point
16:27.46stolenlegacyPneumatus: that raises the critimmunity cap by how much def rating?
16:28.13Twisted-Transistdruids are def capped through talents iv been told
16:28.26Pneumatusdruids get 6% crit immunity from talents
16:28.30stolenlegacyah
16:28.31stolenlegacyforgot
16:28.41Twisted-Transisti didnt know that till not long ago
16:28.44stolenlegacyis an idiot.
16:29.07stolenlegacymy main is druid and i don't know that druids are crit immune from talents
16:29.08stolenlegacy:(
16:29.15Twisted-Transistso that last point wont raise his def cap but increase his dodge, parry and block i think
16:29.15stolenlegacyi'm resto, thoguh
16:29.26Twisted-Transisti dont play my druid nearly enough
16:29.30stolenlegacyTwisted-Transist: parry and block on a druid? why not? :D
16:29.36Twisted-Transisthe is floating around in tanaris atm
16:29.39Pneumatuswell, dodge :P
16:29.40steevHELL YEAH
16:29.41stolenlegacyonly dodge, afaik
16:29.52Twisted-Transisti know druids cant block but i though they could parry
16:29.58quiescensnowai
16:30.01quiescensyou can't parry without a weapon
16:30.02quiescensduh
16:30.04Pneumatusnope, cant parry
16:30.09Stormscapelevel 5 wolves in Elwynn Forest can parry
16:30.11StormscapeWhy not druids?
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16:30.18stolenlegacythey block with their heads and parry with their paws
16:30.23stolenlegacyat least that's what alamo thinks :D
16:30.24Twisted-Transist^
16:30.33stolenlegacyby the way, has he posted an wotlk version yet?
16:30.35quiescenslevel 5 wolves must have specced into parry
16:30.52quiescensand equipped a shield
16:31.17PneumatusDURIDS IS 4 haf FUN TIME WIT FRENS
16:32.13Twisted-Transisthttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Jubei%27Thos&n=Fdx
16:32.22Twisted-Transistthat is a "healer" pally on my realm
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16:32.35stolenlegacytree durids is doesnt do that kind of hot lol
16:32.36Twisted-Transisti grouped with him once and i will never do it again
16:33.23stolenlegacyerm, nice amount of spirit
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16:34.11Twisted-Transistyou know your the 2nd person 2 say that about him
16:34.20Twisted-Transistpersonally i love the +hit items
16:34.27Twisted-Transistand that awesome libram he is using
16:34.42stolenlegacyi only had a quick look
16:34.46stolenlegacyhm
16:34.55stolenlegacylua> mflamer_timerhandle = MalygosFlamer:ScheduleTimer(MalygosFlamer:GetRaidOrKill, 3);
16:34.55lua_botstolenlegacy: luabot:1: function arguments expected near ','
16:35.12AckisWorkthat won't work
16:35.50stolenlegacycan't acetimer work with methods?
16:36.15Pneumatusluabot != wow
16:36.17AckisWorkno, I meant hte lua> stuff won't work
16:36.41stolenlegacythe problem is: wow returns the same error
16:37.02stolenlegacyfunction arguments expected near ','
16:37.05Pneumatusbecause you've missed a pair of parentesis
16:37.10Pneumatus*parenthesis
16:37.22stolenlegacyi need to do () in scheduletimer?
16:37.24Pneumatusor you need to pass the actual function, which you arent doing either
16:37.35nevcairielstolenlegacy: if you want a method, pass the name as a string
16:37.46stolenlegacynevcairiel: ah, thanks
16:37.58nevcairielMalygosFlamer:ScheduleTimer("GetRaidOrKill", 3);
16:38.19nevcairielhowever, you should aswell read up on the : operator and the difference to the . operator
16:38.59stolenlegacyand all that work just because blizz is too lazy to just add an BOSS_ENCOUNTER_ENDED event :(
16:39.52Pneumatuswould be nice if there was an API to access whatever flag is set that causes instances to not let you zone in because an encounter is in progress
16:40.04quiescensah but how would such an event work if you were to release
16:40.28stolenlegacyquiescens: fires whenever an boss encounter ends
16:40.44stolenlegacymight use the bosses localized name as an argument
16:41.07quiescensor what if someone pulls two bosses at once!
16:41.22Pneumatusif you've released WoW wouldnt know to tell you about an encounter thats in progress
16:41.31Pneumatusas your not in that instance anymore
16:41.55stolenlegacyif you released, all my stuff wouldn't work either
16:42.03stolenlegacysince combatlog parsing from other zones isn't possible, afaik
16:43.01Pneumatuseasiest way for you to achive what you want is probably to just report after x seconds of no combat events vs a boss
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16:43.13Pneumatuswhich is how most combat log parsers decide when boss encounters finish
16:43.26stolenlegacyPneumatus: i did it the way dbm does
16:43.43stolenlegacyfrom the time the player leaves combat, i just check for my raid members pets
16:43.46stolenlegacyif any are alive
16:44.00stolenlegacysince the malygos drakes are considered pets
16:44.10Pneumatuswhat if you wipe but the dots kill the boss?
16:44.23stolenlegacydoesn't matter
16:44.32quiescenswouldn't the boss evade and stop taking damage if you wiped
16:44.40nevcairielin theory
16:44.43stolenlegacyquiescens: it is possible
16:44.48stolenlegacyalready had it happen
16:44.50nevcairielwould have to be some awesome timing
16:44.55stolenlegacysince the player is still alive
16:44.57stolenlegacybut falling
16:45.01Pneumatushe stays active until the last person has hit the floor to actually die
16:45.06Pneumatusthen he despawns
16:45.12stolenlegacyhad it happen already
16:45.16stolenlegacybut it doesn't matter
16:45.19quiescenswhy do you need to check the players' pets anyway
16:45.23quiescenswhy not just check the players themselves
16:45.33stolenlegacyplayers can rez outside the instance portal
16:45.36stolenlegacye.g. spirit healer
16:45.38quiescensthey can't really stay alive for long once their drake is dead anyway
16:45.53Pneumatuswhy do you even need such an addon when you have the likes of recount that can tell you who's shit at stacking dots? :P
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16:46.07Pneumatusanyone that's not equal top fails, eznp
16:46.16stolenlegacy:/
16:46.30stolenlegacyit's just less work for the raid leader
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16:46.39stolenlegacyyou can also check recount to see who fails at sartharion
16:46.42Pneumatusi fail to see how pressing (1, 1, 2):rep(*) is even possible to fail
16:46.46stolenlegacylava walls/void zones
16:47.21stolenlegacylua> "1, 1, 2":rep(100)
16:47.22lua_botstolenlegacy: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '"1, 1, 2"'
16:47.30stolenlegacyfails at lua
16:47.32stolenlegacy^
16:47.34stolenlegacy^^
16:47.39stolenlegacyfriggin deadkey :(
16:47.53nevcairiellua> ("1, 1, 2"):rep(100)
16:47.53lua_botnevcairiel: 1, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, 21, 1, ... (result truncated)
16:48.10quiescens1, 1, 2, 6512112!
16:48.11stolenlegacylua> ("1, 1, 2, "):rep(100)
16:48.11lua_botstolenlegacy: 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, ... (result truncated)
16:48.13stolenlegacy:D
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16:48.29stolenlegacythinks nevcairiel fails at formatting :D
16:48.46nevcairieli only copied your line and fixed it :P
16:49.02stolenlegacysighs.
16:49.22stolenlegacyPneumatus: i think you meant that it would report twice if both all raid members and the boss were dead?
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16:50.51Repo10malygosflamer: 03stolenlegacy * r20 MalygosFlamer.lua: Bug fixes:
16:50.55Repo- The report should now display correctly if the raid wipes.
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17:04.29Repo10malygosflamer: 03stolenlegacy * r21 MalygosFlamer.lua: Bug fixes:
17:04.32RepofrFR now no longer uses the english phrase for fight reports.
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17:05.16AckisWorkstolenlegacy: get nevcairiel to translate it to deDE imo
17:05.27nevcairielhe can do that himself
17:05.43AckisWorknein
17:07.07stolenlegacydoch :D
17:07.43stolenlegacyhttp://www.wowace.com/projecs/malygosflamer/localization/
17:08.02stolenlegacyi already did, as you can see :D
17:08.22stolenlegacyfails at typing urls
17:08.35stolenlegacyhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/malygosflamer/localization/
17:08.41Pneumatuswas gonna say stolenlegacy must be deDE as he translated my strings on HideLooted before i just changed half of them
17:08.58stolenlegacyPneumatus: oh really? gonna re-translate them then
17:09.34Pneumatusi re-wrote the options to make it into a GUI, so several of the strings changed to make sense as GUI lables rather than slash command stuff
17:10.36Pneumatusplus, the console vs gui usage of strings is different, :o
17:10.38stolenlegacyPneumatus: HideLooted will automatically hide loot messages when other players loot items in the list below, or are of a lower quality than the selected rarity.
17:10.46stolenlegacyyou use that as a general description?
17:10.54stolenlegacyor as an output after changing a config option?
17:10.59Pneumatusyeh, general description of the addon in the interface options frame
17:11.09stolenlegacyokay
17:11.10Pneumatusi should write some contexts really :P
17:12.18stolenlegacyHide items more common than the specified rarity
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17:12.28stolenlegacythis is an checkbox text, i suppose?
17:12.44Pneumatusits the mouseover tooltip for the "Minimum Rarity" dropdown
17:12.54stolenlegacyokay
17:14.55stolenlegacyi always forget to localize item :D
17:15.55Pneumatushopefully AceConfigDialog will get support for linking items into text fields at some point :P
17:16.05Pneumatusseeing as there's a ticket up :)
17:16.08stolenlegacy^^
17:16.14stolenlegacysaved the translation
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17:16.35Pneumatuscheers :)
17:16.37stolenlegacyis away: raid
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17:26.25nevcairielshort raid
17:26.40Pneumatushmm, such decisions... should i do some heroics, or start another alt
17:27.59nevcairielI offer you a third choice: go skill weapons
17:28.07nevcairielthats what i'm doing now, already got 2 on 400 =P
17:28.40Pneumatusbleh, achievements are for my main
17:28.44nevcairielonly takes about 30 minutes <.<
17:28.51nevcairielper weapon type
17:28.59nevcairieland i'm doing the fast 1h's!
17:29.11durcynjust go afk overnight in king gordok's room
17:29.27nevcairiel30min disconnect =(
17:29.34durcynno disconnect in combat
17:29.36Pneumatusthe sum of my 3 level 80 alts achievement points probably dont sum the total of my main
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17:29.57Pneumatuseach of my alts are at like 1k points or something
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17:31.22Pneumatusis there a fubar/broker plugin that tracks raidids of all your characters?
17:31.30Pneumatusi can never remember which chars are saved to what
17:31.44winkiller3 80 alts?
17:31.49winkillerthat sounds mad
17:32.02winkillerPneumatus: there is one.. just don't remember the name
17:32.09durcyni'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest FuBar_RaidSaveFu
17:32.11Pneumatusyeh, ive got a healer, tank, caster and melee :)
17:32.19winkillerthat's it
17:32.24winkillerthanks, durcyn
17:32.32durcynthough that naming convention makes me want to stab kittens
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17:32.55Pneumatusdurcyn: just found it, except its been renamed to SavedInstances :)
17:33.05winkillerhehe
17:33.18winkillerRaidSaveFu - it justs casts combat rez
17:33.22winkillertada, raid saved
17:34.00Gnarfoz<winkiller> that sounds mad <-- we have two people in our guild with an 80 of each of the 10 classes :O
17:34.17Gnarfozand I know there's atleast two more guys like that on my realm, just on alliance :O
17:34.41Pneumatuscould do with a plugin that records the amout of currency tokens each char has as well
17:35.35PneumatusGnarfoz: i've been taking it slow, gearing each char up in heroics/10man raids which is why im a bit behind ;)
17:36.03Pneumatusalthough its all likely to change in 3.1 when dualspec should let me pvp properly
17:36.22winkillerGnarfoz: I have 1 each at 60+ (except DK@58) and I consider myself slightly mad
17:36.35Gnarfozwell, I'd consider you mad, too!
17:36.35Gnarfoz:D
17:36.59Pneumatusi've only got 2 more chars at 70 though, and one of them doesnt have 280% flying yet
17:37.12Pneumatus6k at level 77 per char is killing me
17:37.17winkiller80,80,74,70,70,70,70,64,61,61,58 to be exact
17:37.48winkillerlooks like I'm not playing enough
17:37.53winkiller*rearranges schedule*
17:38.12Pneumatusim actually considering rolling a char from scratch for my next levelling spree
17:38.29Pneumatusseeing as i've got 1 char slot left for a mage or warrior
17:38.41winkillerI had to start a 2nd account already
17:39.07Pneumatusi use my wifes account for bank/mules now :o
17:40.06winkillershe has a second account as well, because of it being full
17:40.21winkillerbut not married, if that makes a difference :P
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17:40.48quiescensreported for account sharing!
17:42.36winkillernope
17:42.54winkillerdunno if it's official, but they don't prosecute? couples
17:43.06winkilleronly siblings :P
17:43.34winkilleralthough you're mostly safe with the same last name, normally
17:43.40winkillerhaven't tried it though
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17:53.15GnarfozI'm tempted to get a second account for A/H trading :>
17:53.31quiescensnerf
17:53.33Gnarfozand if I could be arsed to level on horde on my own realm, to gank annoying alliance. :P
17:53.48quiescensyou should be horde in the first place imo
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17:54.13quiescensalliance are ebil
17:56.54nevcairielis it just me, or did the general spam volume increase alot over the last month?
17:59.35Pneumatusgoldseller spam?
17:59.44nevcairielnah, email spam
17:59.49Pneumatusoh, dunno :o
17:59.53Pneumatusspamassasin nukes most of mine
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18:03.52Twisted-Transisti know my hotmail account is getting more spam then it use to
18:04.21Gnarfoznevcairiel: check heise for that ^^
18:04.40Twisted-Transistmy gmail account for some reason is getting a ton even though iv only used it for about 3 forums
18:04.46Gnarfoznevcairiel: this one, to be exact: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Beginnen-Spammer-zu-lernen--/meldung/133288
18:04.53Twisted-Transistas for gold sellers they seem to be pretty much dead these days
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18:13.50steevgrrr
18:14.43MoonWolfTwisted-Transist, i don't know what its like on your server but i recently reinstalled spamcentry because of all the gold spam i was getting in trade
18:15.29Twisted-Transistsince the blizzard motd saying to report spam from gold sellers it has really dropped
18:16.04Twisted-Transistit appears to be creeping up a little now but no where near as bad as it was
18:16.15Lysitheauhm, you guys watching trade or general often or something?
18:16.25steevi use badboy, i haven't seen a gold spam in ages
18:16.30Lysitheathat shit is in a diff window behind my useful chats
18:16.33steevand my other server, i don't remember the last time i was in a city
18:17.08steev@describe failbot
18:17.10Reposteev: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/failbot/. FailBot. Add some public humiliation to your raid! Displays in raid chat whenever a raid member "fails." Will report when someone...is hit by an eruption on Heigan misses the jump on Thaddius crosses 3 or more...
18:17.13Twisted-Transisti have an AH alt so i spend a bit of time each day on him as well as my other alts coming and going from cities
18:17.24steev@info failbot
18:17.35steevbleeh
18:18.19Twisted-Transist@describe the meaning of life
18:18.20RepoTwisted-Transist: http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-15081/. theone. map
18:18.32steevanyone know if Veev irc's?
18:18.52steevfailbot doesn't seem to take into account a lesser flask of toughness when counting flasks/elixirs
18:18.56steever
18:18.56steevwtf
18:18.58steevfail
18:19.09steev@info raid-buff-status
18:19.24steevstabs himself
18:22.55steevalso, last night whilst i failed at MC on Instructor, i ran my mc'd mob into the other room and pulled some of the unholy axes - that was fun
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18:23.47steevi was talking to jaeger about it in IMs and he explained they were from the other room (I've never been through military ward before)
18:25.17mjcding 80, finally lol
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18:27.36steevgrats!
18:27.46steevnow go get you some emblems of awesomeness!
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18:36.44stolenlegacyharl: welcome back
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18:40.45harlstolenlegacy: danke..
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18:53.46NeoTronLast night was awesome. 10 man Twilight Zone AND Molten Core achievements in the same night!
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18:56.21AeyanOne of these things is greater than the other
18:56.27CodayusYeah
18:56.36CodayusMolten Core is a 40 man raid, that's 4 times bigger.
18:56.39AeyanClearly Ragnaros' number was up
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18:57.25Zergreth*waves*
18:58.18Zergrethi've ran into a problem. i want to modify a default interface element, but the frame seems to be created AFTER all addons have been loaded. how would i modify that element, without using a timer or anything similar?
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19:02.17Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 04v1.6.4 * f432a95 /: [new tag] tagging as 1.6.4 (release)
19:02.20Zergrethanybody?
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19:03.15Repo10smartmount: 03akazik * r75 SmartMount.lua: - added the Black AQ mount (mail)
19:03.25Repo- fixed the paladin horses (ticket #24)
19:03.47Repo10smartmount: 03akazik 04v3.0-76 * r76 : Tagging as v3.0-76
19:04.27Fisker-http://celldorado.com/UK/ADS/1635231753/
19:04.28Fisker-WHAT THE SHIT
19:05.09Zergreth*sigh*
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19:11.25Kaeltenhello
19:12.25NivFreakKaelten: so I seem to be able to make that CC mac build work if I update 1 addon at a time :)
19:12.48winkillerFisker-: wow, that's awesome
19:13.03quiescensnivfreak: that's okay, how many addons could someone possibly have anyway~
19:13.08NivFreak:)
19:13.17NivFreakI have about 450 directories last I checked :)
19:13.27winkillerouch
19:13.32KaeltenNivFreak: progress
19:13.55winkillerI trimmed it down to 170
19:14.10winkiller(pitbull = 29 folders=
19:14.38winkillera good 100 addons I think
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19:15.44Fisker-is your addons out of NivFreak?
19:15.48Repo10project-13367: 03crashmstr * r32 ASSBlock.toc: ASSBlock:
19:15.51Repo- Updated TOC for 3.x
19:21.14KaeltenFisker-: mine are :)
19:21.25Fisker-:o
19:22.00Fisker-giev ptr :(
19:24.48pentium166you can't have it!
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19:25.11Fisker-ahuh
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19:51.29HjalteCan anyone test something with the latest CC? - Set an addon to Release Install Type, then go to the Manage Games and select Alpha as Default Release Preference and tick the box off and save. Shouldn
19:51.32HjalteMeh
19:51.41HjalteAnyway, shouldnt the addon change to Alpha then?
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19:55.20nevcairielThe addon should set to alpha if you have "Reset" ticked
19:55.24nevcairielif you mean that =P
19:55.33nevcairielOh they renamed it
19:55.44nevcairielits "Set all addons to this release preference" now :)
19:56.20HjalteYes, but it doesn't. Not when I try it, at least.
19:57.38nevcairielyou're right
19:57.39nevcairielKaelten: ^
19:58.42Kaelten...
19:58.44Kaeltenchecking
20:03.18Groktarhttp://www.guild-impulse.net/gallery/pic.php?mode=large&pic_id=30
20:04.27Groktari am pro goldfarmer
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20:06.21Kaeltenyep it's broke, we'll get it fixed
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20:09.47PProvostGroktar: We've got a guy who's a banker IRL who's getting close to 100k. Insane.
20:10.03PProvostI keeep asking... what is it for?
20:11.19Groktarheh
20:11.30Groktari don't *have* 60k gold
20:11.36Groktaronly what you see in that ss
20:16.03Fisker-fgt
20:21.51RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/how-to-use-tortoise-svn-over-ssh-in-312-easy-steps/ by Ackis
20:23.02hastejust 312 steps?!
20:23.20evlstupid question 2k, how do I cast a number to a string?
20:23.29hastetostring(number)
20:23.36RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/repository-faq/ by Ackis
20:23.57hasteor string.format('%i', number)
20:24.05hastetotally depends on what you want to do
20:24.42KaeltenArrowmaster: you around?
20:25.01RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/why-use-revision-control/ by Ackis
20:25.18Fisker-i lol'd haste
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20:31.32AckisWorkKaelten: I found out something new today >:)
20:31.47Kaeltenthat you like pining me in three different mediums?
20:31.54winkillerlol
20:32.00Kaeltenpinging*
20:32.16AckisWorklua> for i=1,20,1 do print("Kaelten") end
20:32.16lua_botAckisWork: Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten
20:32.20AckisWorkno, that
20:32.21AckisWork:)
20:32.34nevcairielackis discovered the wonders of the for loop
20:32.41nevcairielsomething amazign every day!
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20:32.47Kaeltenlua> for i=1,21,1 do print("~lart AckisWork") end
20:32.48lua_botKaelten: ~lart AckisWork, ~lart AckisWork, ~lart AckisWork, ~lart AckisWork, ~lart AckisWork, ~lart AckisWork, ~lart AckisWork, ~lart AckisWork, ~lart AckisWork, ~lart AckisWork, ~lart AckisWork, ~lart AckisWork, ~lart AckisWork, ~lart AckisWork, ~lart AckisWork, ~lart AckisWork, ~lart AckisWork, ~lart Ackis... (result truncated)
20:32.48AckisWorkno... I discovered how to make the for loop ANNOYING
20:32.56AckisWork~fail Kaelten
20:32.57purlKaelten, you Fail!
20:33.05Kaeltenno, I lart in spirit
20:33.07Kaeltentis enough
20:33.09AckisWorklol
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20:33.59Kaeltennevcairiel: I've discovered the wonders of abusing regex and recurssion for effecient addon fingerprinting
20:34.16nevcairielregex and recursion in one sentence, ewww
20:34.23nevcairielthe memories.. awww
20:34.29Kaeltenyep, but it really is the best way
20:35.07Kaeltenalso allows me to differenciant games based on rules instead of writing a custom parser for each
20:38.31AckisWorkwhee my tests were approved... I can now run and judge wow mini and tcg tourneys :P go me?
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20:41.57durcynAckisWork: I'm sure panties everywhere are moistening at the announcement.
20:45.10AckisWorkdurcyn: only yours eh?
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20:49.11Xinhuanmy addon folder is messy
20:49.22Xinhuanits full of embedded and disembedded addons
20:49.44Xinhuanmost addons are installed embedded, but all the ones i author are disembedded
20:50.05hasteyou have only yourself to blame!
20:51.21Xinhuani can't embed them >.>
20:51.30Xinhuanor i'll have to add a lot of ignore files
20:52.09nevcairielyou could hope, that another addon loads before :)
20:53.04Repo10incubator: 03Morgalm 043.0.9 release * r185 : Tagging as 3.0.9 release
20:53.05hastehave to add lot of ignore files?
20:53.08nevcairielor just disembed everything :p
20:53.29Xinhuanyeah or they get commited
20:53.43hastebut don't you have them in one folder?
20:54.17Xinhuannot necessarily, which is why its so messy >.>
20:54.47hastearen't we back to the "it's your fault" argument now
20:54.51Xinhuanyeah
20:54.54Xinhuan:(
20:55.05Xinhuani will deflect the blame to... WAU!
20:55.11Xinhuani'm good now
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20:56.10hasteI don't see why you are!
20:57.07CIA-35buffet: 03Tekkub 07master * r0c65541 10/ Buffet.lua : YOU CRAZY! - http://bit.ly/BZhWS
20:59.21fewynhttp://www.novelquest.com/emperor_specs.html do want
21:02.49Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r80 modules/SkadaDeaths/Deaths.lua: Improve death log for funky circumstances like Malygos.
21:07.48stolenlegacyXinhuan: i had the same problem
21:07.57stolenlegacydefine them as svn:externals
21:08.38stolenlegacylua> ("Kaelten does loops"):rep(25)
21:08.38lua_botstolenlegacy: Kaelten does loopsKaelten does loopsKaelten does loopsKaelten does loopsKaelten does loopsKaelten does loopsKaelten does loopsKaelten does loopsKaelten does loopsKaelten does loopsKaelten does loopsKaelten does loopsKaelten does loopsKaelten does loopsKaelten does loopsKaelten does loopsKaelten does... (result truncated)
21:08.49stolenlegacylua> ("Kaelten does loops; "):rep(25)
21:08.49lua_botstolenlegacy: Kaelten does loops; Kaelten does loops; Kaelten does loops; Kaelten does loops; Kaelten does loops; Kaelten does loops; Kaelten does loops; Kaelten does loops; Kaelten does loops; Kaelten does loops; Kaelten does loops; Kaelten does loops; Kaelten does loops; Kaelten does loops; Kaelten does loops; ... (result truncated)
21:13.45durcynFisker- HEY Fisker- http://wwwistheptrup.com
21:13.50durcynoh damn it
21:13.54durcynwww.istheptrup.com
21:14.40Groktara hunter in my guild apped to vis maior, and in his app he said he didn't have a wws because we don't run it anymore.  was i wrong to post the wws from our last patch in his thread?
21:15.53HjalteNo, now link it to us
21:18.35ArrowmasterGroktar: does it make him look bad?
21:19.37Fisker-old durcyn
21:20.08durcynFisker-: you're old
21:21.30Fisker-yes
21:25.17Kaeltenhuh?
21:25.21KaeltenArrowmaster: yo
21:25.27Arrowmaster?
21:25.30PneumatusGroktar: did he do 4 dps?
21:25.34Pneumatusif so, linky!
21:28.30Groktarit was like 4400ish
21:28.35Groktarhe was applying to vis maior
21:29.05Groktarhttp://wowwebstats.com/kehglzm3tdpxk?s=316734-353000
21:29.10Groktarkrewskater
21:31.41robotuschGrok, that's a heck of a lot of Malygos tries? o_O
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21:34.43Fisker-yo dawg
21:36.38robotuschI herd you like ptrs so I put some ptr in your ptr so you can test while you test
21:37.05Pneumatusis the ptr up yet?!
21:39.25NivFreakrobotusch: WWS splits every malygos attempt into 2
21:39.54Fisker-hey robotusch
21:39.57NeoTronWWS is broken. long live WWS. oh wait
21:40.04Fisker-WMO
21:40.05NeoTronnever mind. let WWS crash and burn now kthxplz
21:40.07Fisker-<PROTECTED>
21:40.15NeoTronWMO > SWS > WWS
21:40.31robotusch:?
21:40.35NeoTronSWS would be > WMO if it wasn't for the fact that SWS on occasion doesn't include all pets
21:40.51Fisker-seaking, fuck yeah!
21:40.52NivFreakWWS == trash now days
21:41.36NeoTronWMO lacks a few very nice features unfortunately
21:41.57NeoTronpercentage of total dmg done per person and per ability. lack of "pet drilldown pages" to mention two
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21:42.22NeoTronlike for sartharion I can't go look at the voidwalkers stats to see the damage he took etc
21:42.30Repo10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm * r66 / (7 files in 4 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
21:42.33RepoMorgDKP2
21:42.34durcynwws is only useful for the hosting and report comparison.. sws still needs raw log view.  and output that isn't 250 megabytes per hour of log files.
21:42.37Repo-WEB!  changed utf-8 detection to morgexport (not critical update if working)
21:42.40Repo-fixed wide lootframe bug
21:42.43Repo-fixed zero sum typo
21:42.48durcynthe disk space usage is absolutely retarded as is
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21:44.55NeoTronindeed
21:45.03robotuschSo, Fisker, what should we do now?
21:45.13NeoTronwhat I really like in SWS, main thing really, is the (de)buff uptime pages
21:45.56NeoTronallows me to see how effectively I use Unholy Blight and my diseases, see what uptime trinket buffs have etc
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21:49.21Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r46 / (3 files in 1 directory): fix ticket 20 and 21
21:49.24Repoupdate locale
21:49.27Repocorrect a possible bug in dailyTooltip
21:49.44NivFreakNeoTron: I wish totem aura gains/losses were in the combat log
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21:59.40Xinhuan[2/24 05:08:01] <stolenlegacy> Xinhuan: i had the same problem
21:59.40Xinhuan[2/24 05:08:09] <stolenlegacy> define them as svn:externals
21:59.47Xinhuanstolenlegacy: i don't use svn anymore ;p
21:59.56hastewhat do you use?
22:00.10Xinhuangit
22:00.21hastethen I see no reason at all why the library ignoring is an issue
22:00.47Xinhuanit isn't really an issue, i merely complained my folders are messy :)
22:01.12nevcairielif you complain in a public place, expect to be larte'ed about it =p
22:01.47Groktarlarts
22:03.47Gnarfozyou're lucky arrow didn't see it :p
22:06.11Groktarrobotusch: we were trying for six minute malygos, so all the wipes were intentional
22:07.48RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bettermagnet/. BetterMagnet. copystring (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
22:08.13robotuschthat's what I was guessing as well :)
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22:10.03Xinhuanalso haste, disembedding allows you to better see how much memory your addon is using ;p
22:10.16hasteI don't care about such
22:10.32Arrowmasteri dont think windows likes me trying to make a usb drive with both an ext2 and a fat32 partition on it
22:10.43Xinhuani do though, especially in "rate of memory increase"
22:13.07nevcairielYou can tell if an addon will leak by looking at the code already =p
22:13.15haste<PROTECTED>
22:13.41Xinhuani will tell you sometimes its not obvious ;p
22:13.51nevcairielfor you, maybe!
22:13.59Xinhuaneven the best coders can fail!
22:14.13Xinhuanfor example, jerry once used a weak table as a cache with strings as keys
22:14.17Xinhuanthey don't get GCed
22:14.39Xinhuanand resulted in a ever growing table
22:16.14Xinhuananother example, antiarc once cached every single threat value in a table, for eg t[100424] = "100.4k"
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22:17.36Xinhuanthere were also almost undetectable leaks due to how omen2's bar handle was acquired and released - they never got released
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22:18.05nevcairielBut figuring out _that_ something leeaks doesnt help you in finding it :)
22:18.14nevcairielIf i just assume that my addon leaks, i can do the same search
22:18.33Xinhuanyou can categorize it down though, as to whether it was a library that leaked
22:18.40Xinhuanin jerry's case, it was his library that leaked
22:19.53Xinhuanits also interesting, not that its impotrant at all, how much memory an addon uses with config, and without config
22:20.12Xinhuanif nevcairiel were to remove all config tables, how much less memory would it be?
22:20.18Xinhuanfrom say bt4
22:20.25nevcairiel~150kb
22:20.27nevcairiel:)
22:20.49Xinhuanfor omen3, i've concluded that omen3 uses 230 kb with config tables, 120 kb without config tables, and about 850 kb with libraries embedded
22:21.07Xinhuanso config tables > 50% of the addon (lol)
22:21.31nevcairielThere is even a big difference if you declare the config tables directly in code, or wrap them in a function closure for dynamic creation
22:21.47nevcairielthe first one uses more memory if the options are never accessed
22:22.10Xinhuani'm not sure how that interacts with putting the options in the blizz addon options ui
22:22.16Xinhuando you have to predeclare them?
22:22.35nevcairielWorks fine with AceConfig at least
22:22.48nevcairielit'll just call your function when the panel is shown
22:22.53nevcairielMapster does it that way
22:23.03nevcairielBartender too, but BT doesnt use blizz config
22:24.21nevcairielsaves about 50% memory when options are not accessed, costs ~20% if they are accessed once
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22:24.29nevcairielaverage play = you dont open options
22:24.53Xinhuancan u see if you can modify omen's option tables to be generated on demand? lol
22:25.35Xinhuanit uses a similar structure to mapster
22:25.51Xinhuanat least, the initial code is taken from it
22:26.25nevcairielWhen i get the motivation i should split Omen into multiple files first :P
22:26.39Xinhuanyou could, but you'll have to worry about upvalues
22:27.40Xinhuanthere's some upvalues 4 or 5? that would need to be updated across multi-files if it were split that way
22:28.02nevcairielThats not a big issue
22:28.12Xinhuaneither updated so that local blah -> Omen.blah
22:28.16Xinhuanor some other way
22:28.43nevcairielAnyway, i need some sleep, have to drive my sister to some weird thing tomorrow morning
22:29.02Xinhuanyour sister should learn driving :)
22:29.30nevcairielshe can, but i'm not giving her my car =P
22:29.55nevcairielanyway, /me leaves
22:30.28Arrowmasterim shocked Fisker- isnt here going 'is she hot?'
22:30.44Xinhuannow Arrowmaster, you're asking for it :P
22:31.12evlDoes SetFont have a maximum limit? I can't seem to get over 26
22:31.13Fisker-who is hot?
22:31.20Fisker-ah
22:31.22Xinhuanlimit?
22:31.25Xinhuani think its 64
22:31.28Xinhuanfor font size
22:31.29Fisker-nevcairiel needs to drive his sister to a swinger party
22:31.38Xinhuanat least, it was 64 last i tested it years ago
22:32.18Xinhuanbut you shouldn't really mess with font size if you can :SetScale() the fontstring's parent instead
22:32.42Arrowmasterwhich one looks less jagged?
22:32.49Xinhuanequal
22:33.00Xinhuanwow internally calculates the nearest integer font size after scaling
22:33.04Xinhuanand generates the font for that size
22:33.20Arrowmasteroh so it just sucks at font smoothing?
22:33.37Xinhuanthat is, a fontstring at size 12 with 80% scaling would cause wow to make the font size == 10 for that string
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22:33.40evlI tried using setscale but that also screws with the points
22:33.41Xinhuanso it doesn't alias
22:34.03Xinhuanyou can see this effect easily by scaling a button up
22:34.12Xinhuanyou can see the text size on that button jumps insize
22:34.25Xinhuanso if the button is size 12, it would jump to 13, then 14, etc
22:34.44Xinhuanas you scale the button up
22:35.06Xinhuanit also means if the string has a fixed width
22:35.17Xinhuansay the string "abcdefg" displays exactly
22:35.30Xinhuanby scaling it up slightly, the button is now wider, but the font size didn't change
22:35.33evlI've made a frame 50x50 and a fontstring inside it, increaasing the font over 26 does nothing :(
22:35.59Xinhuanand scaling it up slightly even more, the font size jumps up by 1, but it doesn't fit the button width anymore and displays "abcd..."
22:36.29evlI only have a single digit
22:36.51Xinhuanwhat are you trying to do?
22:37.19evlconfigure a font size between 12 and 64
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22:38.56evlThe frame is now 250x250 but count:SetFont(STANDARD_TEXT_FONT, 64) does nothing
22:39.00Funkeh`Did someone ping me about something earlier? stupid crash
22:39.49sztanpetnot according to grep
22:39.58Xinhuanevl
22:40.01Xinhuantry this macro
22:40.08Xinhuan/script local fontFile, unused, fontFlags = ChatFrame1:GetFont(); ChatFrame1:SetFont(fontFile, 26, fontFlags);
22:40.22Xinhuanthat should set the font size on your chatframe1 to 26
22:40.35Xinhuanincrease that number 26 and see if u can get it any larger
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22:41.19Xinhuanmy maximum appears to be 28
22:41.45evlThe limt here is
22:41.50evl35
22:41.57Xinhuanwhat UI scale do u play at
22:42.04Xinhuan/print UIParent:GetScale()
22:42.14evl0.8
22:42.21Xinhuanlua> 35*0.8
22:42.22lua_botXinhuan: 28
22:42.31Xinhuanlua> 28*0.85
22:42.31lua_botXinhuan: 23.8
22:42.34Xinhuannot sure
22:42.36Camci0.63 :o
22:42.48Xinhuanwhats the limit u can go on that ChatFrame1 font size, camci?
22:43.13evlSo I should look at scaling instead
22:43.13Camcisorry?
22:43.22Xinhuanusing
22:43.24Xinhuan/script local fontFile, unused, fontFlags = ChatFrame1:GetFont(); ChatFrame1:SetFont(fontFile, 26, fontFlags);
22:43.26Camciso did not get you :P
22:43.50Camciwell thats big..
22:43.56evlXinhuan: even if I scale the parent frame up by 460% thefont size stays capped at what I set it
22:44.09Xinhuanwell yes, how large can your number go
22:44.11Xinhuanabove 26
22:44.26Xinhuani believe wow has a hard cap on the Scaling*Fontsize
22:44.26Camcihow can i check?
22:44.30evlincrease it
22:44.32Xinhuanjust change that number 26
22:44.33evluntil it stops doing anything
22:44.34Xinhuanto somethinglarger
22:44.35Camciok
22:44.41Xinhuanuntil the font doesn't actually increase in size
22:45.09evlBut shouldn't increasing the parent frame's scale increase the size of the fontinstance?
22:45.17Xinhuanyah it does
22:45.20Camci36 as it seems
22:45.47Xinhuanlua> 36*0.63
22:45.47lua_botXinhuan: 22.68
22:46.39Xinhuananyhow, i think the font instance's effective font size has a cap
22:46.48Xinhuanso if you can't go larger, it means just that - you can't go larger
22:46.55evlso you can't reallyt make huge counters?
22:46.59Xinhuannope
22:47.06evlwierd oO
22:47.09evlso the cap is 36
22:47.16Xinhuanthe limit you got to on your chatframe is the maximum size you can go
22:47.24Torhal_Kaelten: ping
22:47.31Kaeltenyo
22:47.41Xinhuanand that limit is dependant on your UIscale
22:47.50TorhalNewest CC overwrites working copies. Just nuked my SVN versions of Revelation and LibQTip
22:47.53evlso SetScale has nothing to do with the fonts inside's scale?
22:48.03KaeltenTorhal: I tested that earlier today and it didn't do it
22:48.04evlit's just that the parents scale simply increases the font size until it reaches 36
22:48.06Xinhuansetscale is just another multiplier
22:48.16Kaeltenare you sure you don't have it set to overwrite working copies?
22:48.35Xinhuanif you have A parented to B parented to UIParent, their scales are all multiplied down to A
22:48.37TorhalIt didn't do it with earlier versions, and unless the new version reset my defaults, I don't have it set to.
22:48.49Kaeltencan you check?
22:48.52TorhalAnd since it updated with alpha versions, I'm guessing it didn't reset my defaults.
22:48.53TorhalYah
22:49.02Xinhuanif A is a fontstring, then it has a font size, and its multiplied with the effective scale at A to reach a font size that wow renders the text at
22:49.17Xinhuanget what i mean?
22:49.26TorhalKaelten: It set the checkmark next to Overwrite working copies. Gah.
22:49.39Kaeltenthat'd be why
22:49.45Kaeltenbut the latest one shouldn't have set it for you
22:49.52Xinhuanto prove this evl, try this
22:49.53Kaeltenthat's defaulted to false
22:50.00Xinhuan/run GameTooltip:SetScale(2)
22:50.04Xinhuan/run GameTooltip:SetScale(5)
22:50.06TorhalWeird, because this is the only version that's done it to me.
22:50.06Xinhuan/run GameTooltip:SetScale(10)
22:50.15Xinhuanyou'll notice that as you scale up the size of your tooltip
22:50.19TorhalOwell. At least I didn't have any work in progress :)
22:50.21Xinhuanthe font size eventually reaches a maximum
22:50.34Xinhuanand while the tooltip scales up, the font reaches a maximum limit
22:50.43evltyp
22:50.51evlthat's strange, I'd think it to be more flexivble
22:51.02Xinhuanit is flexible, its just that it has a hard limit
22:51.08Xinhuanafter accounting for effective scaling
22:51.28Xinhuanbecause wow has to internally render a full set of the font for every size
22:52.00Xinhuanthat is, if you have Arial font rendering at 5 different sizes in your UI, that's 5 complete fonts glyphs in your graphic memory
22:52.08evlaha
22:52.17evlso it has every font rendered at X number of sizes
22:52.20Xinhuanyes
22:52.26evlor cached as bitmaps I guess
22:52.33Xinhuanso wow keeps it only at integers
22:52.39Xinhuanand limits the size
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22:52.57Xinhuanit will only generate the font at size X if it is required to display text at that size
22:53.15Xinhuanthis information is posted by Slouken about 3 years back
22:54.24evlbrb
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23:16.01XsistHello
23:16.13XsistI have a question.
23:16.42winkillerI have an answer: 42
23:16.48XsistHow do i retrive data from a pop up window?
23:16.57Hjalte_Kaelten: If I minimize my Curse Client right when I start it (and it starts logging in etc.) then when I open it again, there is nothing in the window untill I resize it. Maybe you can reproduce.
23:18.41XsistLike when i scroll over a mob my addon will save the cordinates and level and such..
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23:22.49Pneumatusanyone know an addon that hides spell tooltips when in combat?
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23:38.46evlPneumatus: should be quite an easy oneliner, lemme see
23:39.31Pneumatusi wouldnt want to hide unit tooltips in combat though, if my mouse was over units
23:39.39Pneumatusjust spells :)
23:40.29Pneumatusprobably can hook GameTooltip:SetSpell() to check for combat and then :Hide()
23:40.57evlyup
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