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01:24.09Repo10recountguessedabsorbs: 03Elsia * r2 / (5 files in 1 directory): - Initial Import
01:24.12Repo- Fixed SVN properties
01:25.27Repo10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm * r34 / (2 files in 1 directory): MorgBid2
01:25.30Repo-fixed result tip results showing in bidwar silent mode (results won't update now until auction is closed in silent mode)
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01:27.00TorhalToadkiller: ping
01:27.54Repo10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm * r63 / (6 files in 3 directories): MorgDKP2
01:27.57Repo-added whispering non users back in for morgbid query (only those with no version)
01:28.00Repo-fixed money icons
01:28.03Repo-couple bidwar changes to fix silent mode
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01:38.57Torhal_zarnivoop: ping
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02:50.03Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r260 / (16 files in 7 directories): XPerl: Fixed range finder debuff validating.
02:50.06Repo- FFA PVP Icon was erroneously removed at some point under a wrong assumption from myself. It's back now.
02:50.09Repo- Re-added Arcane Blast to debuff highlighting exceptions. Can they make their mind up please.
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03:17.38Stanzillahttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/15199334303-eyonix-would-you-ever-fight-me.html < loll
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03:57.42ZevlHaro there.
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05:25.46Funkeh`Jesus christ
05:25.53Funkeh`yet another exploit in adobe reader
05:26.08Repo10better-bank-log: 03basslingo * r5 BetterBankLog.lua:
05:26.11RepoMassive Initial planning changes. Remote viewing of guild bank works, however you must have already opened the gbank.
05:26.14RepoAlso, will not work after reloading the UI.
05:29.33Repo10dropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 07master * 3835138 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Split up the tooltip display a bit.
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06:24.55theoddone33I just got 99% crit on loatheb, that is fun
06:25.01theoddone3368 frostfire crits, 1 hit
06:26.59theoddone33100% crit on pyroblast
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06:32.06TorhalZhinjio: Feh.
06:32.06Repo10dropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 07master * 4f8687a / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Make the tooltip show when not in a shop again. :P
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06:33.52ZhinjioTorhal: heya.
06:33.58ZhinjioWe just lost power for about 3 hours here
06:34.01TorhalOuch
06:34.02Zhinjiowell outlasted my UPS
06:34.21TorhalWeather-related or did someone take out a pole?
06:34.23Zhinjioit just now came back on
06:34.31Zhinjionot sure. I suspect the latter
06:34.39Zhinjiothey had traffic blocked off our main intersection northbound
06:34.53TorhalGah
06:34.58Zhinjiobut... also weather related, since it is snowing right after a nice freezing rain
06:35.18TorhalThat's always nice.
06:35.47TorhalHow low did your temp get in the house?
06:36.03Zhinjionot too bad.
06:36.43ZhinjioI stayed downstairs where its always warmer anyway
06:37.03TorhalYou must have shitty insulation upstairs, since heat rises.
06:39.55Zhinjiodownstairs is underground.
06:40.23TorhalAah
06:40.55Gnarfozhowever, you must have shitty power distribution if traffic accidents take out your power
06:40.59Gnarfoz...or weather does
06:41.27TorhalGnarfoz: The grocery store I work at has lost power 6 times in the past year.
06:41.32TorhalUsually during high winds.
06:41.38TorhalExtreme shit.
06:41.43Gnarfozhaven't lost power once in the last 6 years
06:41.44Gnarfoz:O
06:42.03TorhalI swear, Louisville is so jacked up grid-wise.
06:42.26ZhinjioKY?
06:42.31TorhalYup.
06:42.33GnarfozI think you could make a wider statement out of that: the U.S. power distribution grid sucks ass :p
06:42.34Zhinjioah
06:42.41TorhalAgreed
06:42.42Zhinjiocuz the next town over from me is also Louisville.
06:42.45ZhinjioI was gonna say
06:42.48TorhalBut Louisville is particularly bad.
06:43.04TorhalI've never lived anywhere that had the problems this place has.
06:43.08Zhinjiothat would have been completely freakish if you were living that close to me.
06:43.12TorhalHaha, yah
06:43.24Zhinjiothe worst was south florida.
06:43.31Zhinjiowe would lose power roughly once a day
06:43.33TorhalIt's already freakish that you know my GF from years back on TinyTIM.
06:43.43Zhinjioheh, yeah.
06:43.46Zhinjiothats what I meant
06:44.21TorhalWell, hell, I'd seen you and you'd seen me around way back then but we didn't really talk until here.
06:44.38TorhalFuckin' Internet. It's like inbreeding.
06:44.41Torhal:D
06:44.58Zhinjiodid you go to the Clarkson TIM party?
06:45.09Zhinjioby any weird chance?
06:45.20TorhalNah, never went to a TIM party. Misty did, though, I believe in New York.
06:45.24Zhinjionods.
06:47.11Torhalzarnivoop: You should add an LDB feed to Skada.
06:48.25Gnarfozno, add a fubar plugin! >:)
06:48.35Torhal...
06:49.27GnarfozAND convert random parts to rock, other parts to ace2, replace libstub (if applicable) with dongle and erase all whitespace
06:49.54TorhalGnarfoz: Have a C preprocesser as well?
06:50.01Gnarfozcertainly
06:50.08Torhals/preprocesser/preprocessor/
06:50.19Gnarfozif you can fit it, don't forget a kitchen sink
06:51.27TorhalAnywho: He just added a "hide when solo" mode, and that made me think of a personal DPS rating in a feed.
06:53.12TorhalAnd I'd love to know who the hell has added me to Softpedia under the Macintosh section.
06:53.34TorhalSomehow, I have a developer page there listing Revelation and Volumizer.
06:53.44TorhalThey're not Mac software products, and I don't own a Mac.
06:54.34TorhalAckis: Plx explain NAO.
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07:03.37theoddone33for some reason we've started mana burning gothik every raid
07:14.41End...gothik?
07:15.05Endunless you can mana burn him before he teleports him down, that sounds really silly
07:15.12Endhimself*
07:15.15theoddone33you can
07:15.21theoddone33and it's still pointless
07:15.38theoddone33I think it just amuses people in my raid
07:15.42Endhaha
07:16.29TorhalToadkiller: pingage.
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07:21.15quiescenscan you just kill him while he's up there?
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07:21.31quiescensor does he do something to prevent that
07:32.02Endhe's immune to damage
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07:37.57BWMerlinwhat is the differance between optdep and required dep?
07:39.05Enda required dep prevents WoW from loading the AddOn
07:42.28TorhalZhinjio: Holy shit.
07:48.04SilowyiShould patchwerk hit for 28k with hateful strike, or is that an undergeared tank?
07:48.23RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/recountguessedabsorbs/. RecountGuessedAbsorbs. Elsia (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
07:49.27ShirikSilowyi: Let me check our logs
07:50.30Silowyiwe had a tank go down getting back to back 28k hits... that's right, 56k damage in one second
07:50.44Shirik20:13'44.703Patchwerk Hateful Strike hits Iyanna for 26297 Physical.
07:50.57Shirik20:14'17.188Patchwerk Hateful Strike hits Iyanna for 22441 Physical.
07:50.57Shirik20:14'18.484Patchwerk Hateful Strike hits Iyanna for 22533 Physical.
07:51.00ShirikSeems pretty common
07:51.04Silowyiouch
07:51.15Shirikthough that's 22k
07:51.17Shiriknot 28k
07:51.40ShirikI see average of 18k, max 25k
07:51.47Shirik26k sorry
07:51.49ShirikI suck at looking at stuff
07:52.01selckinwhere you getting this from Shirik ?
07:52.04Shirikfrom our logs
07:52.53nevcairielavg on our druid is 18k
07:52.55nevcairielmax 22k
07:53.02nevcairiel23k rather
07:53.36selckinand patchwerk can be healed by 2 people, and you probably have like 6, just tell em not to watch tv
07:55.30ShirikI think healing patchwerk with 2 people is asking for death
07:55.48selckinone needs to be a paladin :\
07:55.51Silowyiyeah I don't know many healers that can put out 28k hps
07:56.07Shirikit's certainly possible
07:56.09ToadkillerTorhal: sup
07:56.09Shirikbut it relies on luck
07:56.27Silowyibut 28k hatefuls against a tank that has 33k hp is probably not going to be pretty
07:56.35Silowyiwe still managed to keep him up for a long time
07:56.36nevcairiel28k hps is too much, like i said, average dmg on hour soak tank was 18k
07:56.38Shirikyeah your tank is going to need more hp than that
07:56.43TorhalToadkiller: Was wondering if you'd had luck tracking down the problem with Broker_Currency, or if I should just delete my SVs and hope that solves it...
07:56.44nevcairielyour tank still just sucks :)
07:57.07selckinit's fine
07:57.22selckinour tanks only had around 30k hp first few clears
07:57.38nevcairielof course, but you're not going to do it with that and two healers =P
07:57.42ToadkillerTorhal: I am still trying to figure out what causes it to mess up.  It looks like it is using the grand totals for someones personal totals, then adjusting for the current state.  But it is not very consistent in this
07:58.02TorhalYah, sometimes it seems right on the money
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07:58.23TorhalToday, though, it gave irrational values again for the first time in a week.
07:58.44TorhalSo it's not something munged with my SVs. Gah.
07:58.45ToadkillerYeha, it may also happen on the switch between days.  Or maybe relog to an alt, I dunno.  the code looks clean though
07:59.07ToadkillerBut then I wrote it so im kinda blind to it
07:59.37TorhalI'll take a peek tomorror or the next day (when I'm off) and see if anything stands out.
07:59.49TorhalIt's just...weird. :)
07:59.58ToadkillerYeah ive been working on Grid2 for a bit
08:01.10TorhalOk, I'm off to bed. Something I should have done about 4 hours ago. Yay.
08:01.49ToadkillerMe2, btw you are not having issues with the Grid2 stuff are you?
08:02.15TorhalToadkiller: I'll let you know after I install it. PB4's lack of raid frames is annoying (when I actually raid)
08:02.47Toadkillerhaha
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08:08.49Repo10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.1.3-1-g5a9ee74 GroupIcons.lua: [+1 commit] Added support for !ClassColors custom class coloring
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08:12.16Repo10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.1.3-2-g6f8ab4c GroupIcons.lua: [+1 commit] Only cache the class color table during PLAYER_LOGIN to allow the !ClassColors addon to load after Mapster
08:16.33Repo10project-14464: 03Kemayo * r38 OpenAll.lua:
08:16.37RepoAdd a tooltip to the 'take cash' button showing how much cash you'll be getting
08:19.16quiescenswhat about project-14463
08:19.29nevcairiel@project project-14463
08:19.31Reponevcairiel: No project found that matches 'project-14463'
08:19.44nevcairielit probably still has its real name
08:19.45nevcairiel@project project-14464
08:19.46Reponevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-14464/. OpenAll. Game: WoW. Kemayo (Manager/Author). Updated: 3 minutes ago
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08:27.59Repo10project-14464: 03Kemayo * r39 OpenAll.lua:
08:28.02RepoMerge in some changes from the version up on WoWI that I'd forgotten about.
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08:28.44KemayoYeah, some of the migrated-over slugs from the old wowace are a bit non-idea. :)
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08:29.14nevcairielits all your fault for being dead for so long!
08:30.20GngskQué muerte todavia?
08:30.34KemayoI do, I suppose, take some blame.
08:32.22quiescenspoints at kemayo
08:33.11GngskOpenAll your projects once in a while!
08:33.47KemayoHey, I saw no point in messing with them while I didn't have an active WoW account to test 'em in. :D
08:34.49Gngsktouché
08:35.23nevcairielanyway, want me to rename open all to its glorious former self?
08:36.02Kemayonevcairiel: Go right ahead.
08:36.46nevcairieldone
08:36.50nevcairiel@project project-14464
08:36.51Reponevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/openall/. OpenAll. Game: WoW. Kemayo (Manager/Author). Updated: 8 minutes ago
08:37.57orionshockk, problem here..
08:38.03quiescensuh oh
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08:38.16Gngsk^u 3 dun
08:38.25orionshockusing string.format( ("|cff%02x%02x%02x"..txt.."|r"), r*255, b*255, g*255)  to convert the RCC into a color code.. im getting the wrong colors..
08:38.31CheadsKemayo: bankstack dead?
08:38.38Cheadsas in not maintained anymore
08:39.02quiescensI think it's r, g, b?
08:39.07nevcairielorionshock: you know that its r g b and not r b g?
08:39.11orionshockthat would do it...
08:39.23quiescensit might
08:39.27Gngskorionshock, ask & recieve
08:40.05orionshockYAY!
08:40.36orionshockmaking a small hacky mod to give me a tooltip of all the player data at a glance when i browse the guild roster
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08:41.53KemayoCheads: It's alive, in the sense that I will fix bugs when I see 'em. I haven't noticed a bug since starting back up, though.
08:46.14KemayoI can't say that I have plans to do much to it. But that's because it's approximately complete, in my eyes.
08:46.30theoddone33http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/1903739#damageout :) :)
08:50.39theoddone33only one spell I cast didn't crit
08:50.41theoddone33the whole fight
08:50.45theoddone33so happy
08:54.18Fisker-i hate you Thelyna
08:54.19Fisker-fu
08:54.23Fisker-i hate you theoddone33
08:54.34theoddone33yes, me too
08:54.35quiescensso much hate ):
08:54.40Fisker-yes :(
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08:57.05CheadsKemayo ok, only have an issue with ignore not working, but found a workaround =)
08:58.22KemayoCheads: What was the issue?
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09:04.20Cheadshttp://www.wowace.com/projects/bank-stack/tickets/4-ignore-does-not-work/   there are also some comments about it on it's page on curse.com
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09:05.10Cheadsguess it's not the most used option anyway
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09:11.05KemayoEither the validate behavior changed, or I wasn't paying attention when I wrote that.
09:11.18quiescenspaying attention is overrated
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09:14.19KemayoIt's sort of pain that returning a string counts as false, and it says it'll display it as an error message, but doesn't.  I'd have realized the problem much quicker if that worked. :P
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09:14.36Cheads=)
09:15.41KemayoBad AceConfig, no cookie.
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09:19.42nevcairielAre you using the blizz-options integration?
09:21.24KemayoYeah
09:22.46Repo10bank-stack: 03Kemayo * r117 config.lua:
09:22.49RepoMake config validators return true/false instead of just the output of string.match
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09:23.16nevcairielYeah well, there is a ticket for that, we're not exactly sure where to show the validation feedback
09:23.31nevcairielsince in a standalone frame it shows it in the statusbar
09:23.37nevcairielbut the blizzard thing has no statusbar
09:24.33KemayoPop it up as a tooltip attached to the field?
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09:26.23KemayoSo sad, I've been away for 9-ish months and AceConfigDropdown still hasn't materialized.  ;)
09:27.23EthanCentaurai*cough*UIDropDownMenu*cough* ;)
09:29.14KemayoI'm not sure you understand the appeal of just passing aceconfig tables in to everything...
09:30.07nevcairielguess noone wanted dropdowns badly enough ;)
09:30.09selckinanyone else see Kemayo volunteer to make it
09:30.14EthanCentauraione table to rule them all
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09:32.14Kemayoselckin: I will put in my list of things to do when I'm bored, if I stick with the game again this time. :D
09:33.11nevcairielI have it on the same list, but i wasnt bored enough yet
09:37.28Repo10gsshield: 03Julith * r18 / (2 files in 1 directory):
09:37.31Repo- removed shield updates after zone_switch...just isn't worth the trouble
09:37.34Repo- fixed the bug where the shield left amount wasn't reset correctly (at least i hope so)
09:39.11KemayoI suppose it's sort of a good thing that AceConfigDropdown doesn't exist. Everyone would be shoehorning their main addon config into it, instead of designing a separate sensible dropdown.
09:40.12Repo10bank-stack: 03Kemayo * r118 config.lua: Fix error when removing a group
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11:07.07Repo- Fixed spellId for Paladin's Sacred Shield proc. Thanks to Julith for spotting this one.
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11:19.00KemayoCould I get http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-14647/ assigned back to me?
11:20.55quiescensnowai
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11:25.03Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r193 / (8 files in 2 directories): RaidBuffStatus:
11:25.06Repo- Updated translations and some wording.
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11:26.51Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.70 * r194 : RaidBuffStatus:
11:26.54Repo- Tagged for release.
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12:18.03Repo10broker-uclock: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v3.0.2-1-g5b7370f / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fuck! I forgot to add default settings to the DB :(
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12:19.06Repo- Fixed error that happens when a non-retained shield is observed.
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12:25.45StanzillaKemayo: can you please add text = "BankStack", to the LDB launcher of it? :D
12:25.50Stanzillado not want icon only ^^
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12:35.20RepoTry to compare the talent name with the last spell rank to try to fix Ticket-26.
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14:58.26Repo571fe6c: Fixed behaviour of padding on alternate growth directions and fixed the alignment of the drag-overlay.
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15:27.35Repo10accomplishment: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.1.1-5-g3afb86f / (3 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
15:27.38Repo3afb86f: Change line-endings to Unix LF (and fix a bug while I'm at it).
15:27.42Repo928eb09: Fix fucked up changelog (54kb wtf?)
15:29.57Xinhuanwhats that addon do EthanCentaurai?
15:30.36Gnarfozwait, git doesn't do "native" line-endings?
15:30.55EthanCentauraiit generates a list of names of players who earned an Achievement and can automatically congratulate them
15:31.07nevcairielGnarfoz, it can, if you set the option before :p
15:31.23EthanCentauraithink GuildGreet but for Achievements
15:31.28Xinhuancan you explain how that's useful EthanCentaurai? ;p
15:31.31Gnarfozneeds enforcement :P
15:31.50EthanCentauraiit's for the lazy people :P
15:32.22Hirsute-HomeWe've got someone in our guild who uses it.  I think the GM is about to kick him.
15:32.25nevcairielGnarfoz: its a client option, its not really "native" either, Git prefers LF newlines, and the option you get is "convert CRLF to LF on checkin, and back in checkout"
15:32.37Xinhuanlol
15:32.51nevcairielwe have a "Shut Up" guild rank
15:32.55nevcairielthat cannot talk in guild chat
15:33.06EthanCentauraineeds one in his guild
15:33.09Xinhuan"shut up" guild rank doesn't work in my guild
15:33.10Hirsute-HomeSame dude also uses one of those addons that announces his quest progress to his party.
15:33.13Xinhuanthey just gquit lol
15:33.28Hirsute-HomeHe wonders why people don't jump at the chance to group with him.
15:33.40EthanCentauraisounds like Quecho
15:34.08Hirsute-HomeThere are a few that will do it.  All I know is that when I group with someone who's got that turned on, the first thing I do is ask them to turn it off.
15:34.20Hirsute-HomeIf they won't, I drop group.  Things irritate me beyond belief.
15:34.41Repo10broker-uclock: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v3.0.2a-1-g4f1d3f3 CHANGELOG.txt: [+1 commit] Fix fucked up changelog.
15:35.01nevcairielwhat did you do to your changelogs?
15:35.15EthanCentauraiTextWrangler inflated them from 2kb to 54kb
15:35.22nevcairiel..how?
15:35.24Xinhuanhow did that happen
15:35.26EthanCentauraino idea
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15:35.33Xinhuanwhat did the file contain then
15:35.43EthanCentauraidecides to stick with TextEdit for .txt files
15:35.53EthanCentauraisame content, but with invisible bloat
15:35.55Xinhuanlooks like your git repo will forever be 50 kb larger ;p
15:36.32EthanCentauraistill, it's smaller than Ackis' :P
15:36.46Xinhuanouch
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15:38.52Dark_Elfthat uclock is pretty nice
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15:42.13EthanCentaurai:)
15:45.29Dark_Elfesp since i got rid of the ram eating fubar, one of the few addons i missed
15:47.23sylvanaaranyone know a rare mob tracker like silverdragon thats been update
15:47.27sylvanaarupdated
15:47.53QuantumDeltahaven't seen one since silverdragon
15:48.00sylvanaarboo
15:48.19sylvanaarKemayo ...
15:49.17Gnarfoz@project silver-dragon
15:49.24Dark_Elfsilverdragon was cool, i remember out in the woods and wham boss seen appeared on the screen
15:49.26RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-14647/. SilverDragon. Game: WoW. wowaceSVN (Manager/Author). Updated: 145 days ago. Tickets: 2/2
15:49.53sylvanaarim sure the old version works, but it needs a db update
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15:50.08Gnarfozcomments say it doesn't
15:50.09nevcairielactually, i think it stopped working due to API changes
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15:50.30Dark_Elflast time i ran it, it had errors in buggrabber so had to remove it
15:51.27sylvanaarQQ
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16:00.18sylvanaarthe CC still deletes all the standalone libraries used by an addon even when other addons are using them
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16:00.36Stanzillayup
16:01.00sylvanaari never tried to solve that problem in WAU - too difficult
16:01.15nevcairielwhat did you do? not delete libs at all?
16:01.22sylvanaaryep
16:01.32sylvanaaryou could just delete em yourself, then update
16:01.34nevcairielI guess its a bit of work to scan all addons..
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16:02.04taledenyeah doesn't seem worth trying to figure it out, unless you can require that users never install anything except via the client
16:02.06nevcairielI wonder if a update-all fixes it in CC
16:02.21sylvanaaridk
16:02.22nevcairielget the libs back, i mean
16:02.27nevcairieltrys
16:02.33sylvanaaryou can reinstall - that works
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16:03.16nevcairielhehe its mighty busy when you change to seperate libs from embed
16:03.24sylvanaarheh
16:03.39sylvanaaridk if it handles the migration yet
16:03.49nevcairielseems to work fine
16:03.54sylvanaaror having some addons stay embedded
16:03.54nevcairieldeletes something
16:04.09sylvanaari had to put them on ignore
16:04.29nevcairielhm
16:04.35nevcairiel.18 appears to not uninstall libraries
16:04.46sylvanaarthats what im using
16:04.56nevcairieli uninstalled soem addons, and libs are still there
16:05.00nevcairielrestarts client
16:05.05sylvanaarthere must be more to it
16:06.03nevcairielactually, when i de-installed Bartender4, it removed the one lib that bartender used exclusevely
16:06.11nevcairieland the others are still there
16:06.18sylvanaarlol
16:06.34QuantumDeltaby the way before I start digging does anyone know if there's a cliffsnotes on the differences between pitbull 3 and 4?
16:07.01nevcairielhm same for oRA2, it was my last Ace2 addon in my test setup
16:07.06nevcairielremoving it got rid of some libraries
16:07.08nevcairielbut not all
16:07.50nevcairielI dunno, seems to work on the first glance
16:09.24nevcairielare you using the "new" .18 (from auto-update) or the one Kaelten linked in here a while ago?
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16:09.32Stanzillamy last Ace2 addons are quartz bigwigs and grid
16:09.58nevcairielI'm using more Ace2 addons, but i'm testing the CC in a different folder =p
16:10.07Stanzillaoh :D
16:10.28nevcairielmy main folder is full of svn checkouts
16:11.04quiescensjust can't afford to drop grid~
16:11.21nevcairielI wonder when the first person comes crying that his Bartender broke
16:11.40nevcairielthe funny thing is, if they upgrade to the alpha, they cannot go back since i change config layout :D
16:11.51quiescenslols
16:11.54QuantumDeltaoh noes
16:12.03QuantumDelta*cries at nev!*
16:12.57QuantumDeltapb4 seems to just be a simplified pitbull 3
16:12.58QuantumDeltax_x
16:13.08nevcairielI've been playing with that branch for a while, but since i'm affected by that "cant go back" too, i got annoyed and merged it into the master, ha
16:15.23VangualQuantumDelta: hmm difference would be the entire configuration system, mainly the use of layouts for common setting sets, and of course the entire backend stuff is entirely different
16:15.47QuantumDeltawell figured that much ;p
16:15.57QuantumDeltabut yea thanks for the clarify
16:16.00Vangualthen you're set! :)
16:16.37dodganevcairiel: Good thing I didn't update yet :P
16:16.50dodgaOf course I'd make a backup of my WTF directory first *cough*
16:17.01nevcairielmeh, it should work fine
16:17.08nevcairieljust don't update before your big raid or something :p
16:17.46dodgaOkay, I'll take a note: "Update before big raid. nevcairiel said so." :>
16:21.33Gnarfoz<@nevcairiel> I wonder when the first person comes crying that his Bartender broke <-- my bartender broke! :p
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16:23.01nevcairielWhy don't i believe you
16:23.19Kuja^it works i just had to reposition my first bar
16:25.35nevcairielAnd i thought i had all position weirdness caught, oh well
16:25.48nevcairielwas it way off or only slightly?
16:26.03Kuja^only slightly
16:27.08Gnarfoznevcairiel: I'm actually serious :D
16:27.17Gnarfozslightly off for me, too
16:27.43RaydenUhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=42643#comments why is this ilvl187?
16:29.20nevcairielOh well, then it is slightly off now :p
16:29.40Kuja^yea :D
16:29.41GnarfozRaydenU: because
16:30.01nevcairielI tried to preserve the position as good as i could
16:30.01Kuja^because it can
16:32.41EthanCentaurainevcairlel: drag overlays are off by two pixels to the right and two pixels downwards. also, fadeout when not mousing over doesn't work anymore and bar 8 is one pixel shorter than the other bars for some reason
16:32.53EthanCentaurai<PROTECTED>
16:32.56quiescenso.o
16:33.27Kuja^now how coudn't i notice that? heh
16:33.46quiescensclearly inattentive
16:33.58EthanCentauraimaybe it's because I use ButtonFacade and you don't? :S
16:34.10EthanCentauraishrugs
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16:34.40EthanCentauraioh ya, and I spelt "nevcairiel" wrong :(
16:34.59Kuja^nev<tab> problem solved
16:35.11Kuja^any yeah, i use BF
16:35.13EthanCentauraididn't know about that
16:35.33Kuja^s/any/and
16:35.49EthanCentaurais/any/and/
16:35.50Kuja^stabs purl_
16:36.02quiescenspats purl_
16:36.05EthanCentauraiyou're not doing it correctly
16:36.13EthanCentaurais/correctly/properly/
16:36.22Kuja^meh, yeah
16:36.34Kuja^missed that, i fail :D
16:36.45EthanCentauraihugs Kuja^
16:37.36RaydenUwow crashes every time i exit these days
16:37.44quiescensdon't exit
16:37.57Gnarfoznevcairiel: /bt = 4 errors :D
16:38.04RaydenUwell
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16:38.06RaydenUit doesn't crash
16:38.07RaydenUit freezes
16:38.13RaydenUi have to open up the task manager and kill it
16:39.13Kuja^Gnarfoz: prolly about the missing german strings, eh? :)
16:39.22Gnarfozno, who the fuck runs deDE
16:39.25Gnarfoz:D
16:39.42Gnarfozoh well, I didn't pay attention
16:40.30Gnarfoznevcairiel: http://paste.wowace.com/295/
16:41.27Gnarfozalso, shift-dragging stuff while buttons are locked doesn't work
16:42.20Gnarfozand hovering over entries in the options tree (in /bt, the tree that has bar1-10, bag bar etc) makes the game stutter badly
16:42.25Gnarfoz(i.e. 3d FPS drop)
16:43.01Gnarfozactually, not hovering over, but changing which one you hover over (i.e. move the cursor up and down the tree)
16:43.47Gnarfozalso, my bars don't fit anymore
16:43.48Gnarfozwtf
16:43.52Gnarfoznevcairiel: what the hell :p
16:44.00Gnarfozdid the scaling change, too?
16:45.08Stanzillapats Gnarfoz
16:46.49nevcairielthe performance thing cant be related to the changes i did
16:47.12nevcairieland no,scaling should not be affected
16:48.26Gnarfozyeah, turned out it wasn't scaling, I just had to disable snapping
16:48.29Gnarfoz...great :p
16:48.49Gnarfozcan't put the lowest bar on the screen edge, it snaps to 1px away from it :(
16:53.07nevcairielwith snapping off?
16:53.30nevcairielit uses its own padding as a snap-to distance
16:54.00nevcairielhm and i forgot a few locale
16:54.02nevcairielfixes
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16:54.42Gnarfozno, with snapping on it snaps, of course ;)
16:54.53Gnarfozand yeah, I guess it's set to padding: 1
16:54.58Gnarfozanyway, gotta go :(
16:55.45quiescensgo to sleep
16:55.50quiescensnodnod
16:56.54Gnarfozat 17:56? no way :p
16:58.01nevcairielyes way!
16:58.11quiescens!
16:58.17nevcairielchecks his food
16:58.43nevcairielNow a big steak, and i could sleep afterwards instantly :)
16:58.51nevcairielsadly, steak is for tomorrow =P
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17:02.36Adirellehi there
17:02.52Adirelleany AceConfigDialog guru around ?
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17:51.34break19rattle n roll
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17:57.57Zyndromeoh god, that reminds me of the game that made me almost obliterate my NES ... 'Snake Rattle & Roll' on NES , 2nd last level ....
17:58.36Gnarfozthought of that exact game, too
17:58.36Gnarfoz:D
17:58.53Gnarfozhow do I get a working copy of bt4 again, nevcairiel? :\ I keep forgetting git stuff :D
17:59.12nevcairielI told you, the config was upgraded
17:59.24nevcairielbesides, whats not working?
17:59.37Gnarfozjust in case :D
17:59.53Repo10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm 04v3.1 * r35 : Tagging as v3.1
18:00.03Gnarfozbutton dragging while locked (w/ shift) didn't work for me earlier, btw
18:01.13nevcairielthat can't be related to my changes, either
18:01.42nevcairielbtw, "git checkout 4.2.6" for exampel, to go the last tag
18:07.20Gnarfozwith the full URI?
18:07.24Gnarfozslightly confused :D
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18:09.20Gnarfozah, git clone
18:09.21Gnarfozmeh
18:09.22Gnarfoz:D
18:16.59Repo10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.2.6-11-g6758e5d ActionButton.lua: [+1 commit] Safety check for an error that really shouldn't happen.
18:21.55quiescensof course not
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18:23.59Repo- Updated with spell coefficients from wowwiki.
18:24.02Repo- Updated with Divine Plea changes.
18:27.33thulI'm making cheese cake
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18:39.09HjalteI remember watching a zombie Big Brother tv-show once. Does anyone know the name of it? It's british, I think.
18:40.02Repo10heal-points: 03Eridan * r48 / (3 files in 1 directory): HealPoints: Started using LibStatLogic
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19:04.26Repo10heal-points: 03Eridan * r49 / (2 files in 1 directory): HealPoints:
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19:47.05Kemayosylvanaar: I was fixing up silverdragon last night, actually.
19:48.44KemayoI didn't commit anything -- I was waiting to corner nevcairiel or someone to get the project assigned back to me so I could meddle with the repository a bit.
19:49.00nevcairiel@project silver-dragon
19:49.01Reponevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-14647/. SilverDragon. Game: WoW. wowaceSVN (Manager/Author). Updated: 145 days ago. Tickets: 2/2
19:49.24nevcairielfixed
19:50.19KemayoThanks. :D
19:50.35KemayoCould you change the slug to silverdragon, too?
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19:50.53nevcairieli did, well to silver-dragon since thats what it was before
19:51.00KemayoWorks for me.
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19:53.34KemayoSo, I'm curious, what happens if you change a repository's type?  (From git to svn, etc.)
19:54.24Arrowmasterbeen told the old one will still exist
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19:57.21Kuja^~ugt
19:57.22purlrumour has it, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
20:02.33nevcairielKemayo: the old one will get stored away somewhere, and you get a empty new one
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20:07.11break19wants a reactor now.. thanks guys. :/
20:07.38break19gonna make me spend my rent money on a computer..
20:08.44RaydenUi am using closetgnome and i can't figure out how to delete sets
20:08.47RaydenUany suggestions?
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20:10.07StanzillaI think that's not possible atm :P
20:10.35RaydenUcurrently have: Tank, Tak, Resto, PVP, Naked, Combat, Cat, Bear
20:10.41RaydenUa few of those are redundant
20:11.22HjalteDid you try shift, ctrl or alt clicking the sets in the right click menu?
20:11.28HjalteNo idea if that's it though
20:11.41RaydenUoh hey
20:11.41RaydenUctrl
20:11.45RaydenUhow come i never tried that?
20:12.13StanzillaIt should say that in the tooltip :(
20:12.57RaydenUhmm
20:13.02RaydenUwho reads tooltips anyways?
20:13.15RaydenUno, it doesn't mention ctlr anywhere
20:13.25RaydenUjust says right click to edit, equip, or delete
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20:34.21RaydenUthe hell?
20:34.26RaydenUwhy doesn't tenacity buff vehicles?
20:36.20nevcairielwould be too OP
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20:37.22RaydenUuh
20:37.33RaydenUwe lose every time because the alliance have so many more guys than we do
20:37.48JyggaOo
20:38.00RaydenUand vehicles are the best way of doing massive AOE right?
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20:38.07Jygganot really
20:38.11RaydenUwhat then?
20:38.16nevcairielmages :P
20:38.21Jyggaya
20:38.29RaydenUso we should send mages in to k ill the 100 alliance inside WG?
20:38.34nevcairielsure
20:38.53Jyggaget some dks to protect them
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20:39.10selckinyou need more trade spamming skills and get more ppl
20:39.21RaydenUthat's not really a solution on my server
20:39.25nevcairielvehicles are always a limited resource, even if alliance has 10 times the man power as you do, they still can only have a fixed number of vehicles
20:39.30nevcairielso they don#t get buffed either
20:39.39RaydenUuh
20:39.43RaydenUthey never get the tenacity buff
20:39.54RaydenUthey ALWAYS outnumber horde
20:40.32RaydenUalmost 3 times the number of alliance on my server as horde
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20:41.08selckinthey have better trade spammers
20:41.09nevcairielthats not what i am saying, though
20:41.19selckinthats how you win wg, trade channel
20:41.46RaydenUso each side has 12 vehicles
20:41.56RaydenUhow does this help us when the alliance has several hundred more guys guarding?
20:42.06nevcairielthe attacker can has more vehicles
20:42.07RaydenUif vehicles aren't powerful against non-vehicles?
20:42.11nevcairielcan have*
20:42.17nevcairieljust get the two production thignys
20:42.35RaydenU16-12 then?
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20:42.46nevcairielthats what tenacity is for, get some good DPS'ers and just run them over
20:42.54nevcairielour horde manages, and they are always low too
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20:43.08RaydenUwhat sort of tenacity buff?
20:43.17RaydenUsomeone in my guild says the alliance on our server are very good at WG as well
20:43.35nevcairielwell then you have to get better :)
20:43.58nevcairiel~ping
20:43.59purl~pong
20:44.02RaydenUdoesn't change that it seems ridiculous poor design to not buff vehicles based on ratio
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20:47.24RaydenUpeople in that last round kept building catapults right up to the very end
20:47.54nevcairielI'll just say your horde has no clue how to attack that fortress properly
20:48.04RaydenUi guess
20:48.24nevcairielIts way harder to defend it then to attack it
20:48.32RaydenUwe never win and attack
20:48.35RaydenUnot when i ever play
20:48.42nevcairielOn my realm, it usually switches every game
20:48.43RaydenUthe one time i defended we lost in 3 minutes
20:48.47nevcairielbecause no faction can defend it
20:49.32Pneumatusalliance regularly defend it successfully on my realm
20:49.35RaydenUi guess i will stop trying to use a vehicle the whole time and see how that works for me
20:50.03RaydenUthe tenacity buff is a good idea, but at some point it doesn't help you at all vs a zerg
20:50.32RaydenUi wonder if anyone's talking about it on my realm forum
20:51.12Pneumatuswhen we defend, we usually gank the back towers asap
20:51.23Pneumatuswhich either forces horde to stop attacking, or uberbuffs us
20:52.33RaydenUthe last few i've run we lost because our towers got destroyed
20:55.20RaydenUrofl
20:55.30RaydenUpeople on the forum want hordeo only server transfers in
21:01.55RaydenUare you serious?
21:02.00RaydenU3.1 is adding a shapeshift cooldown?
21:02.37Fisker-http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15211005567&sid=1 <-y'all posting in a troll thread
21:03.37Fisker-sauce RaydenU ?
21:04.10RaydenUhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15199334432&sid=1
21:04.14RaydenUlast post on first page
21:04.21RaydenUobviously not authoritative, which is why im' asking here
21:06.25Stanzillacrap
21:06.27Stanzillafake
21:07.36RaydenUcause that would make playing a druid much less fun
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21:13.43RaydenUalso tenacity can't scale perfectly if it doesn't affect stuns
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21:29.52Repo10broker_calendarevents: 03yssaril 07master * v1.0.5-1-gf651689 Broker_CalendarEvents.lua: [+1 commit] only register events after we have created our broker
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21:52.58Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys 04v1.3.3 * r267 :  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
21:53.01RepoTagging as v1.3.3:
21:53.04Repo- Removed "Poisons" from the tradeskills list in the UI.
21:53.07Repo- Replaced hard-coded trade skill names with names returned from the WoW client, with a fallback to the old values.
21:53.10RepoThis should fix TSI not learning player recipes properly with non-english clients problem.
21:54.58Repo10visualheal: 03xbeeps * r18 / (2 files in 1 directory):
21:55.01Repo- Add the frame positions to saved variables, to enable positions to be preserved when the addon is disabled.
21:55.04Repo- Remove some unused stuff from the XML.
21:55.07Repo- Make the VisualHeal variable globally accessible.
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22:26.48Ironhandis there a way to set up Grid to automatically display any "typeless" debuffs? (that is, debuffs that aren't one of the 4 dispellable debuff types)
22:27.12IronhandI get tired of adding them by hand every time I encounter a nasty one
22:29.37ckknighthey all
22:31.12AeyanEllo.
22:33.12PneumatusIronhand: there was a grid module that added all the raid ones in for you, but i think its dead
22:33.33PneumatusIronhand: infact its not dead:
22:33.47Pneumatus@project grid-status-raid-debuff
22:33.48RepoPneumatus: http://www.wowace.com/projects/grid-status-raid-debuff/. GridStatusRaidDebuff. Game: WoW. azelkeeber (Manager/Author), Azethoth (Author). Updated: 13 days ago
22:34.14Stanzillawelcome back, ckknight :)
22:34.14ckknightI'm in New Orleans
22:34.18IronhandPneumatus: ok, it was effectively dead last I checked, I'll have another look
22:34.38Pneumatusyeh, i thought it was dead too but it looks like someone has picked it up again
22:35.03Stanzillawhat are you doing there?
22:35.17Pneumatusbit early for mardi gras isnt it?
22:36.03Pneumatusinfact, perhaps not!
22:44.48Repo10visualheal: 03xbeeps 048.5 * r19 : Tagging as 8.5
22:46.28RaydenUi need a way of determining time till WG wtihout getting on wow
22:51.07ckknightPneumatus: Mardi Gras lasts for a wihle
22:51.12ckknightwhile*
22:51.26ckknightPneumatus: Friday is when things really started kicking
22:51.39ckknightand I'll be here until next Thursday
22:52.07Pneumatusthat should give you plenty of time to see flashed boobs!
22:54.21Pneumatushmm, LOOT_ITEM:gsub("%%s(.*)%%s.*", ".*%1.*item:%%d+") should work for all locales, right?
22:54.37Pneumatusas the global LOOT_ITEM should always have 2 string placeholders for the looters name and the item link, right?
22:54.54nevcairielhey ckknight, something i wanted to ask you about: That guy working on Cartographer2 recently started writing a "new" gathering module, except it sucks and only has data for Classic-WoW stuff .. it seemed so bad, that i wanted to let you know, if its still in your intentions for it =p
22:55.26ckknighthmm
22:55.38ckknightPneumatus: that won't work
22:55.56Fisker-ckknight
22:55.58Fisker-PTR or die
22:55.59ckknightokay, good to know, nevcairiel, but I'm not dealing with WoW stuff for a week
22:56.15ckknightPneumatus: what if one does %2$s instead of %s?
22:56.20nevcairieli'll probably forget until then, but shrug
22:56.48Pneumatushmm, i shall check some other language globalstrings
22:57.43Pneumatusi should really get mysgit and just clone tekk's globalstrings repo
22:57.46Pneumatusbut im lazy
22:58.30Pneumatusthe N$ bit means put the 2nd arg in that spot, right?
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23:00.52Pneumatushmm, i cant just check for "%%%d?$?s" either, because i then need to switch where i put the item:(%d+) bit in :o
23:00.56Pneumatusbleh
23:02.14ckknightI wrote a lib to handle this
23:02.16ckknightDeformat
23:03.14Pneumatusi _could_ just match straight against LOOT_ITEM, then match("item:(%d+)") afterwards
23:03.58jnwhitehor you could listen to ckknight
23:04.00jnwhiteh!!
23:05.07Fisker-kisses jnwhiteh
23:05.34jnwhitehohai
23:05.44Fisker->:3
23:06.06Fisker-no ptr = kill all humans
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23:16.52RaydenUany of you guys using pitbull find it bugs everytime you go into WG?
23:17.01RaydenUi get these strange stransparent frames that i can't click on or move
23:17.02RaydenUi have to reload
23:17.29Ironhandnot me... tried selectively turning off Pitbull modules to see which causes it?
23:18.54EndRaydenU: get that issue too
23:18.56EndI*
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23:20.46RaydenUi finally won a game of WG
23:20.57RaydenUand i spent most of the game stealthed sitting by the alliance controlled machine shop
23:21.01RaydenUso i have no idea what went right
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23:33.50AeyanIf that was your -first- win, I'd venture to guess your faction slipped up and managed to not suck for once.
23:34.02AeyanThe attacker always has the advantage in WG, by design =P
23:34.32AeyanMy server is terribly Horde dominated, but even the Alliance manages to hold it for a little while each day
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