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00:00.09quiescensto stop the screen from scrolling?
00:00.33ulicoh found it.
00:00.34ulicSend a stop signal (associated with Ctrl-s by terminals) to current window.
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00:01.09ulicand q is, Send a start signal (associated with Ctrl-q by terminals) to current window.
00:01.14ulicmakes sense
00:01.32ulicok, enough screen chat in the wowace channel.
00:09.14Repo10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar * r116 / (4 files in 2 directories): FBagOfHolding:
00:09.17Repo- Fixed some errors with drop down menus introduced in the last commit.
00:09.55Repo10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar 040.9.116b * r117 : Tagging as 0.9.116b
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01:18.46chiperNivFreak: you around?
01:18.55NivFreakyea
01:18.56NivFreakwhat's up
01:19.06NivFreakand rip hulu on boxee
01:19.06NivFreakboooo
01:19.08chiperwhats this about hulu being yanked from boxee?
01:19.13chiperhaha
01:19.26NivFreakyea, the content providers pressured hulu into having boxee yank support
01:19.39chiperbooo
01:19.52WobWorkpft
01:19.58WobWorkI could never watch hulu anyway
01:20.03WobWorkstupid american only video sites
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01:20.42chiperwhen are they gonna figure out that making stuff less accessible is not the way to make more money
01:21.16NivFreakyea, I don't fucking get it
01:21.22NivFreakads were still there
01:22.53kenlyricchiper: when they all fucking die
01:23.06chiperthat doesnt work, they're self propogating
01:23.26Pneumatus[01:18:25] [1] [73:Laney]: Who drops Zim'bo's Mojo?
01:23.29Pneumatus*facepalm
01:23.38kenlyricit's the 1920s publishing model, break it up into as small pieces as you can get
01:23.42chipernot the first time I've heard that
01:24.23kenlyricremember that Onion article where the MPAA had come up with a new technology that would make you buy a movie for everyone in the room that is watching it?
01:24.28kenlyric*they actually would love that*
01:25.25HirsuteOf course they would
01:25.48HirsuteThe *AAs don't give a rat's @!# about consumers, only about their bottom line.
01:26.53kenlyricthat hubub with the publishers recently bitching about the kindle being able to read books to you
01:26.54chiperthats the thing tho, it wouldn't hurt their bottom line
01:27.07kenlyricis all about their firm belief that you should never be able to move from one format to another.
01:27.22kenlyricchiper: their brains are broken, they think it would.
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01:27.54kd3|hate`netyay! The Isle of Dread! done... finally! only took a few years
01:28.45Zhinjiois there suich a thing as a haste "cap"?
01:28.53kenlyricdespite the endless of examples of where dropping restrictions resulted in a massive growth in sales.
01:29.26NM|Xinhuanthat's highly dependant on elasticity of demand :)
01:30.41kenlyricI don't buy videos from itunes because I can't stream them from my home computer to my ipod on wireless
01:30.59kenlyricthey'd make so much money off of me if they dropped drm on video
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01:32.24chiperI dont buy movies from itunes because I can get an actual dvd for the same price
01:32.57NivFreakditto
01:33.04NivFreaksame thing with PPV and ondemand shit
01:33.16kenlyriccan't really do that for tv shows
01:33.18NivFreakthe prices are stupid, and 24 hour limits are unreasonable
01:33.22kenlyricthey're much cheaper in itunes
01:33.26NivFreaktvrss.com
01:33.30NivFreaker
01:33.32NivFreaktvrss.net
01:33.32kenlyricand, it saves me the *very tedious* process of ripping them
01:35.34chipertviv.it
01:35.41chipererm, eztv.it, heh
01:35.52chipertviv is completely different
01:36.27kenlyrictorrenting is problematic in my line of work
01:36.42chiperwhy, are you a cop?
01:36.54kenlyricand typically i'd need to convert them to play on the touch
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02:00.10Repo10broker_skills: 03Kemayo 07master * 77a47af / (4 files in 2 directories): [new, +1 commit] Initial import
02:04.39Repo10broker_skills: 03Kemayo 07master * 65e54c9 core.lua: [+1 commit] Oh, right, lua treats 0 as true -- knew I was forgetting something.
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02:31.18*** topic/#wowace is wowace.com | paste.wowace.com | lua.org | .15 Mac tinyurl.com/8pr7u7 || 2.1 RC1 tinyurl.com/bzw5gq | Username: wowace.com/request-name-change/
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02:50.12Brunerswru Lost
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02:58.01WobWorkLost... I would wager =P
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03:03.51Repo10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana * r87 flagRSP2.xml: Fixed Viewer bug referencing old name of function.
03:04.11Repo10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana * r88 flagRSP2.toc: Tic Toc.
03:04.46Repo10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana 042.0.8 Release * r89 : Tagging as 2.0.8 Release
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03:13.25Groktarhow much armor in an armor pot?
03:13.33Groktar3500?
03:14.28Groktaroh that's right
03:14.31Groktartwo minutes
03:21.25CodayusDon't forget, that means you can have it up for the first four minutes of the fight.
03:22.03CodayusFor most Wrath fights, that's plenty.  Of course, for most Wrath fights, you don't really need to worry about your armor.  :-/
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03:45.24RaydenUdarkmoon deck is expensive!
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03:55.18Brunersgot mine for about 9600
03:55.49sacarascOVER 9000?!
03:58.15sacarascCodayus: How do you use it for 4 minutes? Start it just before the fight and then the CD continues to tick down?
03:59.22CodayusYeah, drink it 1s before pull.  Potion sickness doesn't trigger, and it lasts longer than the cooldown.  So dring at t=-1s, and t=1:59, and it finally wears off at t=3:59
04:00.45RaydenU9600? so cheap
04:00.48RaydenUit's going for 18k right now
04:02.00BrunersRaydenU: you have to buy the cards when they are low
04:02.18BrunersRaydenU: got most of mine for 900
04:04.35RaydenUthing is
04:04.39RaydenUi have about 3500g right now
04:05.21Brunerscan get 6 of the cards for 8563 at our ah now
04:05.47sacarascRaydenU: More than me! ;p
04:06.53Bruners9667 then only missing card 6
04:21.27RaydenUis it just me or does the bigger team always win in WG?
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04:29.34RaydenUwhich on my pve server is almost always alliance
04:29.48Endattacker usually wins on my realm
04:29.54RaydenUi've only won attacking once
04:29.55Endespecially if there's lag
04:30.01RaydenUand i've only defended once
04:30.04RaydenUwe got owned
04:30.08RaydenUlike 2-3 min win
04:30.10Endlag is like an I win button for attackers
04:30.11RaydenUwell, loss for me
04:30.25RaydenUmy record is probably 1-10 or so
04:31.43quiescensyeah
04:31.50quiescensattackers only need to attack stationary targets
04:33.26RaydenUand i'm always way outnumbered by alliance
04:33.32RaydenUdo we know the ratio for the different tenacity levels?
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06:06.32Repo10altocomplete: 03Kemayo 07master * 7f86e87 / (3 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] Initial commit.
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06:42.40orionshockhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=57231
06:42.42orionshock?
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07:22.40Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r62 / (2 files in 2 directories): A few localization fixes.
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07:37.29Repo10grid2: 03jerry * r49 modules/StatusAuras.lua:
07:37.32RepoFix a bug related to Auras updating, as Reported in ticket-4.
07:37.44RepoThanks rindy for the study and the fix.
07:37.56Fisker-booo
07:38.00Fisker-down with grid
07:38.01Fisker-2
07:40.16RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/altocomplete/. AltoComplete. Kemayo (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
07:40.21RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker_skills/. Broker_Skills. Kemayo (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
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07:44.09Repo10grid2: 03jerry * r50 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fix Tickets 5 and 6. Thanks rindy.
07:46.56Repo10cartographer: 03AbydosLanti * r2303 Cartographer_ZoneInfo/ZoneInfo.lua: Updated description
07:49.53Repo10grid2: 03jerry * r51 / (2 files in 1 directory): Remove embeds.xml
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08:06.01Groktarreleases the daleks
08:06.33Fisker-fuck you i'm the destroyer of worlds
08:08.44quiescensexterminate~
08:09.26Groktar4EXTERMINATE
08:12.40Fisker-~exterminate
08:12.44CIA-35tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r6c6fd0d 10/ TourGuide_Alliance/75_77_ZulDrak.lua : Add alternate ZD choker questline, in case players have finished the first Drakuru chain - http://bit.ly/AZdAD
08:12.45Fisker-~dalek
08:12.46purlrumour has it, dalek is a fictional extraterrestrial race of mutants from the British science fiction television series Doctor Who. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalek
08:12.49Fisker-fu
08:13.01Fisker-why oh why did you stop being fun purl_? :(
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08:17.18durcyn~lart Fisker-
08:17.18purlsmacks Fisker- up side the head with a clue-by-4
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08:17.48End~purl_
08:17.58EndYeah, that's right, you don't know you are now, do you!
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08:51.28Repo10drawing-board: 03vaeyl 04v0.4 * r4 : Tagging as v0.4
08:51.31RepoUpdated Libraries
08:51.42Groktar
08:51.51Groktar4EXTERMINATE
08:53.34pb_ee1flees.
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08:54.25Fisker-4EXTERMINATE
08:54.31Fisker-i like where this is going Groktar
08:54.59CIA-35picodps: 03Tekkub 07master * re1e864c 10/ picoDPS.lua : Ignore "target" for UNIT_PET - http://bit.ly/PMxXU
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08:58.53Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=8137343889&sid=1
08:58.56Fisker-QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ
08:59.49Kalrothcan feel the tears over here.
09:02.43Groktarouch
09:02.44Groktarowned
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09:03.54MegalonFisker-, when talking about QQ, did you get the sartharion trinket by now?
09:03.55Megalon:p
09:06.32thulassrape Fisker-
09:07.40Groktar4EXTERMINATE
09:08.05nevcairielnext guy using colors will be exterminated by me :P
09:08.18Groktar:(
09:08.47hasteDENIED!
09:09.01orionshockewww
09:09.06orionshockcolors are bad mmkkay
09:09.56thulnevcairiel: if you use lube, you can exterminalate me all the time.
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09:19.58Repo10dropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 07master * 2107830 / (3 files in 1 directory): [new, +2 commits]
09:20.01Repo2107830: .pkgmeta typo
09:20.04Repo192875a: Initial commit.
09:20.33KemayoI was going to just fix Broker_GarbageFu... but it scared me.
09:20.50EthanCentaurai@project dropthecheapestthing
09:20.52RepoEthanCentaurai: http://www.wowace.com/projects/dropthecheapestthing/. DropTheCheapestThing. Game: WoW. Status: Needs approval. Kemayo (Manager/Author). Updated: 34 seconds ago
09:21.43AeyanGood call
09:22.37Repo10dropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 07master * a525519 addon.lua: [+1 commit] Remove commented out deletion code
09:31.37Repo10dropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 07master * 9bff65a addon.lua: [+1 commit] Delete on shift-click only
09:31.58KemayoMade me feel icky about having been using FuBar/Broker_GarbageFu for so long.  But I'm a snob that way.
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09:35.10Repo10accomplishment: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.1.1-3-g9b710d3 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits]
09:35.13Repo9b710d3: Added manual-changelog and license-output to .pkgmeta.
09:35.16Repo204d1b6: Add a changelog.
09:35.19Repo5229f4b: Tweak the .toc a smidge.
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09:39.45Repo10dropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 07master * ae8069a addon.lua: [+1 commit] Show value in the LDB, too
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09:40.50Repo10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.1.2-3-g78551d6 / (13 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits]
09:40.53Repo78551d6: Adjust locale files to use the localization app
09:40.56Repo911dee6: Added an option to change the scale of the PlayerArrow to improve visibility on "busy" maps, like Wintergrasp
09:41.02Repo9f53b87: Toy around with the Options Button to not collide with the floor dropdown
09:43.28Fisker-i am QQ'ing nevcairiel :(
09:43.36nevcairielof course you are
09:44.22AdirelleAntiarc: ping !
09:46.17Fisker-Adirelle pong
09:47.39Adirelle~lart  Fisker-
09:47.39purltakes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down Fisker-'s throat until Fisker- puts on 150lbs
09:47.45Adirelle~lart Antiarc too
09:47.45purlresizes Antiarc too's terminal to 40x24
09:47.50Adirelleah !
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09:49.48thulthat is beacause Antiarc only talks to sexy people like me
09:50.19Adirelleinteresting
09:51.19KalrothHe always hides when there's work to be done!
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10:14.48EthanCentauraiYes I'm still maintaining the Lunar Festival guide... in preparation for next year :3
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15:36.27PProvostAnyone recognize an issue where your addon when it is the only one installed will throw "AceConfigRegistry-3.0:ValidateOptionsTable(): key is not a string" but when I've got other Ace addons installed, this doesn't happen?
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15:37.18PProvostMakes me think some other library or addon is overriding ValidateOptionsTable and when the addon is all by itself that isn't happening
15:37.19nevcairielPProvost: you probably have ClosetGnome installed which still simply suppreses the validation function =P
15:37.31PProvostAre you kidding?
15:37.33nevcairielhowever, keys should still all be strings
15:37.51PProvostCG suppresses it in the library?
15:37.54PProvostROFL
15:38.10PProvostHokey....
15:38.27vhaarr^^
15:38.27Elkanowell, it uses spaces in the keys, so yeah ^^
15:38.39PProvosthaha
15:38.59vhaarrdoesn't sound related to your problem though
15:39.06PProvostCould be.
15:39.09vhaarrnah
15:39.16PProvostGona reenable CG and see if it goes away. Just for fun
15:39.23vhaarrit will go away
15:39.28PProvostYeah
15:39.31PProvostSo I have a bug
15:39.33vhaarrbut you have some other addon that doesn't play by the rules
15:39.35PProvostNo problem
15:39.38PProvostMine!
15:39.39PProvost:)
15:39.40vhaarrah right :p
15:39.41vhaarrye
15:39.46PProvostBut interestingly, it worked
15:39.55PProvostWhen CG was installed
15:39.56[Ammo]CG shouldn't supress that though
15:39.57PProvostMeh
15:40.03[Ammo]it should play by the rules or not play at all
15:40.08PProvostAmmo - aggreed
15:40.24PProvostShutting it down for everyone seems a bit... extreme
15:41.04vhaarrwell at the time nev made it pretty clear that AceConfig would not be changed to support what I needed, so I didn't care
15:41.11vhaarrbut now it seems things might change
15:41.17vhaarrso then it won't be needed
15:41.31[Ammo]it still isn't needed to supress the func in the lib for your addon
15:41.59[Ammo]other solution if you really want it: add using _ instead of space and replace keys with space instead of _ after validation
15:42.01PProvostSo spaces aren't allowed in arg.name? Is that the issue?
15:42.03[Ammo]it only validates once
15:42.08vhaarrPProvost: in keys
15:42.10[Ammo]no in the keys of the table
15:42.20PProvostDon't seem to have any bad keys
15:42.22PProvostHmmm
15:42.22vhaarr[Ammo]: when does it validate?
15:42.26vhaarrwhen you register?
15:42.26PProvostWill keep digging
15:42.28[Ammo]when registering
15:42.29[Ammo]afaik
15:42.46vhaarrwhat about dynamic tables, does it revalidate when the table changes?
15:42.52[Ammo]no
15:43.04[Ammo]it validates once as a dev help after that you're on your own
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15:43.21vhaarrPProvost: that might be why you see the problem sometimes and not other times then
15:43.34[Ammo]but Mikk knows more on the why and how
15:43.38zoktaranyone know of a broker addon that shows bag/bank space availble on all your characters?
15:44.14winkillerpff
15:44.21[Ammo]so your solution vhaarr might be to register an almost empty table and then fill it afterwards
15:44.28[Ammo]instead of supressing the lib for everyone
15:44.37PProvostzoktar: We could add that to Broker_Bags I suppose
15:44.45PProvostSend me a patch if you want
15:44.49zoktarwould be awsome
15:45.21vhaarr[Ammo]: mikk has a patch to support spaces in keys now and he's been running with it locally for a few days without noticing any side effects
15:45.24PProvostPut a ticket up for it? I'll do that later this week when I'm done futzing with ChannelLock
15:45.34zoktarkk
15:45.38vhaarrobviously the only problem is with AceConfigCmd, where they have to be replaced by underscores
15:48.16PProvost@project broker_bags
15:48.18RepoPProvost: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/broker_bags/. Broker_Bags. Game: WoW. Quaiche (Manager/Author). Updated: 58 days ago
15:48.24PProvostThere you got zoktar
15:49.17PProvostAhhh... I found it. Thanks guys.
15:49.30zoktarkewl well ill check for updates then =)
15:49.34PProvostJust got lazy last night and did a table.insert for a button at the end.
15:49.42PProvostzoktar: file a ticket or I will forget
15:49.53zoktarthen ill have to register, but ok :)
15:50.01PProvostSame reg as wowace
15:50.12PProvostJust login
15:50.25zoktarah just noticed
15:53.37zoktarticketed,and subscribed =)
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15:54.34Mikk[Ammo] / vhaarr: yeah it looks good so far. i should commit it i guess.
15:54.45Mikkif it was only CG needing keys in spaces i'd still tell you to go shove it
15:54.50Mikkbut it seems to be needed in more places
15:54.58vhaarrif it was then I'd shove it myself :p
15:55.26nevcairielI still say its not "needed", devs are just lazy =p
15:56.12Mikknevcairiel: but in this case it's only a matter of removing the space from the pattern check so it's not like it's lib bloat either
15:56.28MikkOh and it doesn't validate on register - that's wasted cpu time. It validates on the first request.
15:56.37nevcairielwell AceConfigCmd needs extra code
15:56.39MikkSo registering an empty table doesn't get you out of trouble.
15:56.52Mikknevcairiel: /command "blah blah" parameter
15:56.58Mikkshould already work
15:57.11nevcairielSomehow i don't think so
15:57.21Mikkunless i remember it worng
15:57.33[Ammo]just ditch the whole validation
15:57.35[Ammo]problem solved
15:57.44[Ammo]devs should learn to code :)
15:57.57Mikkyeah and you neeeever fucked up an aceconfigtable :P
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15:58.12nevcairielYeah well idiots go and blame AceConfig for their mistakes
15:58.13[Ammo]if you don't validate the whole time, then don't validate at all
15:58.20[Ammo]or make it a toggle
15:58.31[Ammo]I don't care for validation at all
15:58.40Mikkmmm i don't know why i don't validate on every request
15:58.43nevcairielpeople that use tables that change all the time usually know what they do anyway
15:58.46[Ammo]Mikk: performnace
15:59.04[Ammo]anyway, fuck validation is my opinion
15:59.04Mikkwell.. when you're requesting config tables, you're not doing anything performance critical tbh
15:59.07Mikkyou've got a config UI up
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15:59.45[Ammo]big config tables getting validated every request is kinda fucked up
15:59.54[Ammo]doesn't make for a smooth user experience in the config screen
16:00.15[Ammo]if you can only validate the entries that get used then that would be a good idea
16:00.22nevcairielMikk: anyway, your Cmd implementation simple goes to the next space, no checking for " " parts
16:00.24Mikklocal _,nextpos,arg = string.find(info.input, " *([^ ]+) *", inputpos)
16:00.27Mikkyeah you're right
16:00.35Mikki had AceConsole:GetArg() in there first but that created a dependency
16:00.37Mikkso i removed it
16:00.53nevcairieland personally, i would prefer if its mapped to underscores for cmd access
16:00.57Mikknods
16:00.57nevcairielthen silly quoting usage
16:01.06Mikkyeah i'll fix that too before committing
16:01.55Gngskwhat about bash style escaping?
16:02.09nevcairielsucks for typing
16:02.17Gngski dunno guess I'm just used to it
16:02.23Gngskalso if acetab made a revival it'd make it easy
16:02.26[Ammo]anyway, later :)
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16:03.58Gngsksuppose it depends on your keyboard layout and what you're used to typing but '_' doesn't seem any easier than "\ "
16:04.19nevcairielits one char less
16:04.34nevcairieland for me _ is easier then a single \ ... .)
16:04.35Gngskbut not one less keystroke, if you count shift
16:04.48nevcairiel\ requires two for me
16:05.09nevcairielalso, its not very intuitive, imho.
16:05.10Mikkand parsing "\ " in a pattern is .... meh
16:05.20nevcairielusers have to look at the key, and know what to type
16:05.24Gngskyah that's prolly the more important factor
16:05.33nevcairielif you show it with underscores there, its obvious
16:05.38Mikki'd even go as far as saying that "\ " would create hell for acetab
16:05.39winkillerwasn't \ a pita on macs?
16:05.53nevcairielAceTab doesnt really work anyway
16:05.59Gngskyou should fix it
16:06.09Mikkdefine you
16:06.15nevcairieli have no idea how its supposed to work
16:06.31nevcairielthe dev that was supposed to write it fell off the edge of the world
16:06.44Gngskwell, i didn't mean anyone in particular just not me since I don't have the skills :(
16:06.53Gngskyah, hyperChipmunk
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16:11.18onaforeignshore@project AceTab
16:11.20Repoonaforeignshore: No project found that matches 'acetab'
16:11.49onaforeignshorewhat is AceTab?
16:12.38Gngskautocompletes addon commandline args when you hit tab
16:12.55Gngskleast that's what it did originally
16:13.03nevcairielwould be kinda nice if it would work properly
16:13.03Gngsknow it only autocompletes the command
16:13.13nevcairieldoes it even do that? =P
16:13.16Gngskyah
16:13.24Gngsk/big<tab>
16:13.27Gngsk/bigwigs
16:13.33nevcairielwonder if thats not a wow feature
16:13.37Gngskit isn't
16:13.43vhaarrye it's acetab
16:13.46Gngski thought it was for the longest time until Mikk corrected me
16:14.06vhaarrnot many know about it though
16:14.07onaforeignshoremine completes /big -> /bigwigs and after a space adds arguments on tab?
16:14.10vhaarrI mean, that they can autocomplete
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16:14.35Gngskonaforeignshore, mine doesn't unfortunately
16:15.10onaforeignshorebut it only does it with addons that list their arguments ... e.g. doesn't work for /qh
16:15.25nevcairielonaforeignshore: bigwigs uses Ace2, and AceTab-2.0 should still work, i think
16:15.38Gngskah, so you get the bigwigs commandline args listed when you type tab a second time after completing to /bigwigs ?
16:15.54Gngskonaforeignshore, yah that's how it's supposed to work it basically just parses the options table
16:16.05onaforeignshoretab, press [space] and tab again
16:17.45Repo10cartographer: 03AbydosLanti * r2304 Cartographer_Professions (12 files in 4 directories):
16:17.48RepoThe start of a new professions module, disabled the additions for svn
16:18.06Gngskhmm, suppose it doesn't work for me because I have an instance of AceTab-3.0 loaded and not AceTab-2.0
16:18.08Camciis it 5% hit rating for pvp right+
16:18.46nevcairielnew professions module for cartographer? ckk should stop the insanity with his old projects =P
16:18.49GngskCamci, 5% to never miss yellow
16:20.05onaforeignshorehow do you see if you have an instance of AceTab-3.0 loaded?
16:20.54onaforeignshorewhat I miss from Cart that mapster doesn't have is listing of levels (area, fishing, instances, etc.) on the map
16:21.21MikkMmm I've missed that myself on occasion
16:21.30nevcairielthere is a standalone addon for that
16:21.36nevcairieli believe Kemayo created it
16:21.48onaforeignshoreanother addon instead of added functionality
16:21.55nevcairielwhats the difference?
16:22.11onaforeignshoreadded functionality = trusted author :p
16:22.18Gngskkemayo is trusted
16:22.23BWMerlintry http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11706-Cromulent.html
16:22.25onaforeignshorehehe... don't know him
16:22.28nevcairielyou know, the guy running cartographer now, is anything, but not trusted
16:22.36BWMerlinit will give you the zone info you are after
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16:22.40nevcairielthats the one
16:22.57nevcairielah it was phyber
16:23.01nevcairielbut thats the addon i meant
16:23.10onaforeignshoreThis is Cartographer_ZoneInfo (by ckknight) broken out into a separate addon. - not ace3 then
16:23.22AckisWorkfacepalms.
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16:23.28phyberyes, it is ace3, but that doesn't matter.
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16:23.36phyberalso, does it need poking to get a new libtourist or something?
16:23.45Castigohey guys, i've been looking everywhere, and still can't find it. is there a way to change the font of a tooltip?
16:23.55Castigo(just one tooltip and via code)
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16:24.17AckisWork@project cartographer
16:24.18RepoAckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/cartographer/. Cartographer. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author), AbydosLanti (Author), Arrowmaster (Author), Moncai (Author). Updated: 6 minutes ago. Tickets: 31/101
16:24.50Gnarfozphyber: if a new libtourist rev is out there, it probably does. this doesn't happen automatically anymore (like it did "back then")
16:25.03phyberi don't think so.
16:25.28GnarfozI do :D
16:25.40Gnarfoz@project lib-tourist-2-0
16:25.42RepoGnarfoz: No project found that matches 'lib-tourist-2-0'
16:25.50GnarfozI'll not even try figuring out the slug
16:26.17onaforeignshoreCC is nice, except for one addon - skinner
16:26.17Gnarfozhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/libtourist-3-0/ <- latest release from 2009-02-12
16:26.31Gnarfozthat's skinner's "fault" ^^
16:26.36AckisWorkonaforeignshore: what's wrong with skinner?
16:26.54Gnarfozphyber: so yes, cromulent could do with a poke to pull in the latest tourist :>
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16:27.23Repo10cromulent: 03phyber 04v1.2.6 * 21cd8bc /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.2.6 to grab a new LibTourist
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16:27.41onaforeignshorewith skinner you have to manually move .lua files from the "AddonSkins" folder to the "SkinMe" folder to have them included in skinning, and this makes the addon "dirty" in CC
16:27.45onaforeignshorecatch 22
16:27.54Gnarfozs/22//
16:28.06AckisWorkonaforeignshore: that's being fixed or is already
16:28.16onaforeignshoreI'll check it out
16:28.42AckisWorkimo odd implementation for a mod... I'd never want to have to deal with users moving files around
16:29.13onaforeignshoreI know, but that's what the author did, so what can you do?
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16:29.47Gnarfozimprove upon it, submit a patch/change suggestion/fork the addon
16:29.52onaforeignshorenope, still cleans out the SkinMe folder
16:29.58Gnarfozor just eradicate it since it's an abomination anyway
16:30.21AckisWorkGnarfoz: have a bunch of toggles on or off imo
16:30.38Gnarfozyeah, I dunno how it came to be the way it is now
16:30.41onaforeignshoreGnarfoz: so what would you use instead then?
16:30.58Gnarfoznothing that does what Skinner does :D
16:31.07onaforeignshoreprecisely
16:31.37Gnarfozwhat was haste's original addon called, before the nutjobs took over Skinner? I keep forgetting
16:32.16durcynskinner's pretty fucking hackish, and you should just blow away trunk's retarded organization and add some IsAddOnLoaded() calls
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16:33.05nevcairielGnarfoz: oSkin
16:33.13Gnarfozsuccinct
16:33.14Gnarfoz:D
16:33.44nevcairielanyway
16:33.54nevcairielthe new guy doing cartographer is totally nuts
16:34.05nevcairielhe wrote a new gathering module for cartographer
16:34.18nevcairielusing astrolabe, instead of the cartographer built in code
16:34.25Gnarfozthat's... odd
16:34.29Gnarfozto say the least
16:34.30Gnarfoz:D
16:34.32AckisWorkyah i was going to ask you about that nevcairiel lol why you said what you did earlier
16:34.48thulastroluuuuube
16:35.05AckisWorkthul: I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that
16:35.10Camcithanks Gngsk
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16:36.31durcyni believe the product is named "Astroglide", Ackis.
16:36.57AckisWorkno idea, never used it
16:37.51thulsame here
16:38.06thuli generally avoid having sex with bodily orifices that needs lube.
16:39.13AckisWorkself-sex?
16:39.57nevcairieli should ask ckk if thats still in his intended goal of the project
16:40.01nevcairielspeaking of, where is he today
16:40.01thulwell, I actually prefer sensual massage oil if I'm to play with the party-stick.
16:40.05thulbut good point.
16:40.21nevcairielhey Kaelten where is ckk haning today?
16:40.37Kaeltenhe's heading down to new orleans for mardi gras
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16:40.48thulhmm, is "play with the party stick" or "polish the party stick" best?
16:40.55nevcairielmardi-what?
16:41.02thulmardi gras, big party down south
16:41.07thulstudents drunk, spring break, beads, nude tits
16:41.52Mikklikes the beads & nude tits part
16:42.04Taladrisgive beads, see tits
16:43.14thulthat is the concept, yes.
16:44.25Kaeltenyeah, it can be a lot of fun at times
16:44.26BWMerlinwhen i was using cart and you were inside an instance or raid and had the cart instance maps installed, if you brought up the map it displayed that instance map
16:44.44BWMerlinhow can you do the same using say mapster and atlas?
16:46.51nevcairielAckisWork: i found something even more fun, he uses a "LibSwag" that apparently detects herbing/mining/etc .. but you know what, the newest data it has is from Classic WoW :P
16:47.15AckisWorknevcairiel: and you guys give me shit about my code :P
16:47.33nevcairieltoo bad i can't talk to ckk to stop the shit :)
16:47.56AckisWorktell Kaelten to call him ;)
16:48.05nevcairielits not that important
16:48.17nevcairielcan always revert him when he gets back
16:48.37BWMerlinwhy not just send him a pm explain what he is doing is great but perhaps he is better to focus his efforts else where?
16:48.47nevcairielits not great
16:48.48nevcairiel:P
16:49.17durcynjust make it official and create an addon snobbery committee that evicts people from wowace
16:49.22durcynarrowmaster could chair it
16:49.42nevcairielwe can easily evict projects, not people that easily
16:49.57nevcairielckk allowed that guy to maintain cartographer
16:50.06AckisWorkwell, that has some validity to it durcyn... wowace is about quality and is a community over anything else
16:50.31nevcairielBut i don't even get why he would want to write new gathering code
16:50.34onaforeignshorepain of skinner in its current form is if you forget to move a file to the SkinMe folder, you have to completely reload the game :(
16:50.40nevcairielGatherMate and Gathere work fine with any map mod out there
16:50.49nevcairiel*Gatherer
16:51.18AckisWorknevcairiel: having new options is never a bad thing :P but when you do the new one half assed...
16:51.36nevcairielin this case, its bad
16:51.53AckisWorkbecause it sounds like it's about a quarter assed
16:52.08nevcairielhalf-half-assed, eh
16:52.15AckisWorkaye
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16:56.59nevcairielbut you know, its kinda funny
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16:57.05nevcairielthat guy is pulling carto even more in the dirt
16:57.57AckisWorkI'm surprised it's not dead tbh :P
16:59.58kenlyricthe same reason GM has 27 brands
17:00.00kenlyrichabit
17:00.16Kaeltenquarter-assed?
17:00.26kenlyriccart is still the only map mod most plebe's know
17:00.39AckisWorkkenlyric: there's cart 2 and cart 3 though
17:00.50onaforeignshoreguilty as charged until a few weeks ago
17:00.53kenlyricwhatever
17:00.57kenlyricnumbers are silly
17:01.01BWMerlini liked cart3
17:01.12BWMerlinbut for some reason cart2 kept getting the love
17:01.18BWMerlinso i went to mapster
17:01.24nevcairielcart2 has not received any love for a long time
17:01.28BWMerlinit feels the same as cart2
17:01.33nevcairieljust some hate from us :9
17:02.07AckisWork"Unfortunately I don't remember who the original author was who wrote the majority of the code. But my hat is in hand to you whomever you are. Thank you sir and or madame for your hard work. "
17:02.20nevcairielAckisWork: where is that from? =P
17:02.55AckisWorkhttp://wow.curseforge.com/projects/movable-pet-bar/
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17:04.49cncfanaticsgrrrr
17:05.01cncfanaticsI get seriously fucking pissed frop crying that a disc priest is bottom healing on their meter
17:05.03cncfanaticsfucking tards
17:05.33nevcairiell2healmoar
17:05.53BWMerlinspam heals when the raid is standing around doing nothing
17:06.06AckisWorkcncfanatics: why would you be bottom as a disc priest?
17:06.11TaladrisI don't like meters until tanks or whatever start dying.
17:06.17cncfanaticsbecause absorbs aren't on the meter , AckisWork
17:06.24cncfanaticson my own hacked version of the meter I'm top lol
17:06.33onaforeignshoredisc priest is more about damage prevention than about healing
17:06.38nevcairielEveryone is, on their hacked version =P
17:06.51cncfanaticshacked as in metering absorbs, not autotopping me:D
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17:07.25TaladrisI got 5th on healing on Loatheb on tuesday... while I was tanking.
17:07.29Taladris<3 JoL
17:07.50cncfanaticshealing on loatheb is very, eh, relevant
17:08.05cncfanaticsmeters that is
17:08.08cncfanaticswhoever has the best aoe heal wins :p
17:08.39BWMerlinmeters r only good if you know how to read them and why you ended up where you did
17:08.40Stanzilla<3 Prayer of Healing
17:08.41AckisWorkloatheb = priest wins
17:08.46Stanzillayup
17:08.52BWMerlinwe are trying OS 25 +3
17:08.53AckisWorkStanzilla: I can't wait for it to be group targetable
17:09.03StanzillaAckisWork: yeah that will be awesome
17:09.04BWMerlini smashed meters as spriest with still some blues
17:09.07Fisker-hey AckisWork
17:09.07AckisWorkhealing metre's only good for rotations imo
17:09.10Fisker-i fucking hate you
17:09.12Fisker-.(
17:09.14AckisWorkfuck you Fisker-
17:09.15BWMerlinreason being i would lay down some aoe
17:09.18AckisWorkpiece of shit
17:09.20AckisWork:P
17:09.23Fisker-why so fucking hostile?
17:09.33durcynwould you two just get it over with and kiss
17:09.41Fisker-no
17:09.48Fisker-only thul and me may kiss
17:09.52AckisWork10:09Fisker-i fucking hate you <-- and you ask me why I'm hostile? :P
17:09.56Fisker-court order
17:10.32thulkisses and hugs and assmassages Fisker-
17:10.33Gnarfozcncfanatics: does your hacked version have drawbacks or why has it not ended up in at least a public branch of recount? :p
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17:11.35cncfanaticsGnarfoz: the hacked version assumes DA always gets consumed before pw:s does
17:11.36durcynabsorb tracking is highly unreliable
17:11.44cncfanaticswhich is not the case
17:11.59cncfanaticswhichever has least absorb left gets consumed first, which is DA most of the time, but still ain't always the case
17:12.01thuldo I want to attend the Illinois Institute of Technology ?
17:12.21cncfanaticsthul: if you don't know how are we suposed to ? :p
17:12.27AckisWorkdoes anyone here get the wowace e-mails blocked?
17:14.22thulcncfanatics: instinct? :-P
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17:14.56Fisker-Skada > FUCKING RECOUNT
17:14.58Fisker-AMIRITE?
17:15.10Fisker-threatens everyone with slavery and death
17:15.16thulprefers slavery alone
17:15.17Endtells Fisker- to calm down.
17:15.30Fisker-I AM CALM
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17:15.43thulprepares to be enslaved *SEXYGIMPOUTFITSAHOY*
17:16.31Gnarfozgags thul
17:16.39thulenjoys greatly
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17:16.54Fisker-DO YOU WANT ME TO TRASH YOUR LIGHTS?
17:16.58Gnarfozgoes looking for the paddels
17:17.01Gnarfoz*paddles, damnit
17:17.05GnarfozFisker-: there are four lights, etc
17:17.05thulpaddles :-D
17:17.09thulTHERE WILL BE PADDLES
17:17.10thulparty people.
17:17.21GnarfozFisker-: wtf is skada
17:17.36thul"damaged" in swedish
17:17.36thul:-P
17:17.56qwesto"damage" is more like it :)
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17:18.06Fisker-damagemeter Gnarfoz
17:18.18Fisker-i'll fucking cut you up if you don't use it
17:18.28Gnarfozcut all you want
17:18.39Fisker-and i won't kick you  down a bottomless pit
17:18.42Fisker-my pit will have a bottom
17:19.00GnarfozI'll be your bottom any day
17:19.14Gnarfozalso, why is Ubuntu 8.10's wlan support so fucking useless
17:19.58*** join/#wowace Shirik (n=Shirik@conspiracy/developer/Shirik)
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17:20.05Fisker-because it's fucking ubuntu
17:20.11Fisker-you might as well ask why ubuntu is ubuntu
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17:20.29Shirikwhy so ubuntu?
17:20.30Fisker-trashes the LED's in Gnarfoz' wlan
17:20.43Gnarfozhow does "a wlan" have LEDs
17:20.50Fisker-fuck you
17:20.53Shirikthat's actually how wireless networks work
17:20.55Shirikfloating leds
17:21.01Shirikthey move so fast you can't see them
17:21.16AckisWorkShirik: I thought they were tiny fast messenger pigeons
17:21.23GnarfozI always thought the notion of "electromagnetic waves" was absurd
17:21.37Gnarfozanyway, FYI: Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning 'can't install Debian'
17:21.37Shirikno, RFC 1149 only came later
17:21.44AckisWorkStanzilla: you're a priest right?
17:21.50StanzillaAckisWork: yes
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17:21.59StanzillaAngus Stern says: All hail Arcádia, a priest of worth! < even that
17:22.27Stanzilla^^ (Loremaster is NO fun)
17:23.34pschrinerI totally quit using debian on my notebook when an innocent update broke my hard earned ndis wrapper wlan...
17:24.12Gnarfozhurr this... is... Ubuntu!
17:24.36Gnarfozwhich should actually have better chances of working, but rtl8185 (using rtl8180 drivers) seems to just be no fun.
17:24.53StanzillaAckisWork: why?
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17:36.14Repo10tinykos: 03profalbert 04v0.3-beta * 5743f35 /: [new tag] tag as v0.3-beta
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17:39.10Kaeltennew client out guys
17:39.16Kaeltenplease help me test :)
17:39.42nevcairielsoon, final we have?
17:39.42selckinlink for the lazy?
17:41.09Kaeltenselckin: if you have a version it will autoupdate if not, http://www.curse.com/client
17:41.35Kaeltennevcairiel: unless major issues are discovered it'll go out to the full userbase on monday
17:41.36nevcairielyou spread it on the curse page already?
17:41.55nevcairielcool
17:42.32Fisker-i got the "old" 2.1.1.18?
17:42.34Fisker-Do i need to reinstall?
17:43.30Repo10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r20 / (2 files in 1 directory):
17:43.33RepoAnother attempt to fix flickering debuff countdowns with raid targets.
17:43.33Fisker-Kaelten my friend :(
17:43.36RepoAdded default spell settings for druid, thanks to pusikas2.
17:44.15Fisker-Meet 'Moot,' the Secretive Internet Celeb Who Still Lives With Mom.
17:44.16Fisker-i lol'd
17:45.17Fisker-then i hate you
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17:46.11Fisker-damn
17:46.14Fisker-some of my addons are out of
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17:47.02HjalteKaelten: I uninstalled an updated 2.1.1.18 RC1 and selected to delete my personal settings. However, when I reinstalled it, it still had my previous settings.
17:48.11KaeltenHjalte: nice, ticket?
17:48.19KaeltenFisker-: yeah, just reinstlal over it
17:48.46HjalteKaelten: I'll do one. It also didn't remove the link in the start menu to the Curse Client, it did remove links to uninstall, docs etc. though.
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17:49.08Kaeltenhrm, I've not done any qa on the installer itself
17:49.22ramozoO
17:49.27ramozautomagic updating
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17:52.05Adirelle2.1.1.18.RC1 is indeed faster
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17:55.31Pneumatusstable servers today then :o
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17:55.43Shirikdefine "stable"
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17:56.34Camciis WoW-3.0.1.8874-PTR-EU-Installer-downloader still the old version or?? havent been on ptr since tbc :p
17:57.01HjalteCamci: Just start your game and look at where we are now and you'll see.
17:57.09NivFreaklol, so I have this arms warrior in guild that has some decent moments of failure, so he posted this up last night:
17:57.12NivFreakhttp://casualcorps.com/pics/fun/Trout-notes.jpg
17:57.34HjalteKaelten: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/tickets/181-issues-when-uninstalling-the-client/ It should be a relatively easy fix.
17:58.40PneumatusNivFreak: pro
17:58.42sacarascNivFreak: That's pretty cool
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18:14.24KaeltenHjalte: thanks
18:14.40Gnarfoz!api logout
18:14.40lua_botFound 3 possible results for 'logout': ForceLogout, CancelLogout, Logout
18:14.49Gnarfoz!api events logout
18:14.49lua_botCould not find a match for 'events logout'.
18:14.51Gnarfozmeh
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18:19.01TinyboomKaelten*
18:19.03Tinyboomwhoops
18:19.49TinyboomKaelten: when an addon in CC is ignored CC always complains that addons are not up to date, want ticket?
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18:22.59onaforeignshoreKaelten: you know about Skinner and it's idiotic folders, don't you?
18:23.18KaeltenTinyboom: yes
18:23.22Tinyboomkk
18:23.23Kaeltenonaforeignshore: that should be fixed now
18:23.34Kaeltenwe went through and made all 300+ exceptions for it yesterday
18:23.45onaforeignshoreit's a pain in the @$$
18:24.57nevcairielKaelten: you should've just banned Skinner, easiest solution
18:25.21Kaeltennevcairiel: lol
18:26.31TinyboomKaelten: kinda funny that on the curse contest only americans are eligble, but you can set other countries by choice :p http://www.curse.com/contests/win-a-reactor/enter.aspx
18:26.44Tinyboomstupid laws
18:28.04nevcairielits not a law thing, i bet
18:28.13Tinyboomstupid anyways...
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18:30.53Tinyboomwonder how big the outside US userbase is for curse :p
18:33.42stolenlegacysince every wowace account has a curse counterpart, and most wow-addondevs by now use wowace, quite big, i suppose
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18:35.20Pneumatusif the activity in this channel is any way representative of the US/EU split, there's a lot more activity here in EU times
18:36.28nevcairielhehe
18:37.30stolenlegacy:D
18:37.45GnarfozEU > US
18:37.49stolenlegacyEU isn't EU, there are 2 or 3 time zones over here
18:37.54stolenlegacyi think
18:38.02Gnarfozlike the US doesn't have 5 :p
18:38.11thulGMT, CET, etc...
18:38.15stolenlegacy^
18:38.17stolenlegacy^^
18:38.30stolenlegacygrah dammmit this input field really annoys me
18:38.38stolenlegacywhen i type ^^ it does only 1 ^
18:38.44EthanCentauraiwonders why he bothered entering the competition...
18:38.45stolenlegacyso i have to type ^^^^ :(
18:38.56quiescensgo to sleep~
18:39.14stolenlegacywonders why EthanCentaurai did aswell.
18:39.14Gnarfozstolenlegacy: nodeadkeys ftw
18:40.18EthanCentauraifucks sake even Wowhead have America-only competitions :|
18:40.32stolenlegacysuppose shipping costs quite a bit
18:40.49stolenlegacynot that that should be TOO much compared to what the prize must have cost
18:41.38kenlyricnot shipping
18:41.40kenlyriclaws
18:41.52kenlyricit's complicated enough to make them legal in the US
18:41.58EthanCentauraifucking governmental shite
18:42.09Gnarfozactually, it would probably be easier to make it legal for, say, the entire EU, lol
18:42.22kenlyricprobably not
18:42.36kenlyriccontests are iffy territory because some laws consider them a form of gambling
18:42.38Gnarfozbecause that consists of less than half the number of COUNTRIES than the US has in states :P
18:42.44kenlyricand you know how uppity people can get
18:42.47Stanzillastolenlegacy: xchat or pidgin?
18:42.48EthanCentauraipulls out a minigun and goes on a rampage down Downing Street
18:42.57GnarfozStanzilla: xchat, l2/ctcp version
18:43.07StanzillaGnarfoz: ctcp version is rude!
18:43.12Gnarfozhow so
18:43.12Gnarfozwtf
18:43.13Gnarfoz:p
18:43.16Stanzilla^^
18:43.37Gnarfozsee, you didn't even notice
18:44.03Stanzillajust because that spam goes to the "status" window for me
18:44.14Stanzillaand I have the "^^"-problem in pidgin >.<
18:44.15Gnarfoz(notices), for me :D
18:44.20Gnarfozhow is it a problem lol
18:44.27Gnarfozit should be like that in *every* program you run
18:44.37Pneumatus*facepalm
18:44.38Gnarfozbecause on DE keyboard layout, ^ is a deadkey :p
18:44.47MikkGnarfoz: just mash it twice
18:44.48Stanzilla~whalecrit mikk
18:44.49purlACTION crits mikk with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. mikk dies
18:44.58Mikkor ^ + space
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18:45.01GnarfozMikk: l2talk2the right people! :p
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18:45.21Mikk"Gnarfoz: because on DE keyboard layout, ^ is a deadkey :p"
18:45.24Gnarfozyes
18:45.26Gnarfozand?
18:45.29Pneumatusdont be gernam, problem solved!
18:45.33Mikki just parsed that as being a problem
18:45.38Mikkit's a deadkey on swedish keyboards too
18:45.42Gnarfozparse more context (i.e. READ ABOVE! :P)
18:45.45Pneumatusor swedish
18:45.48MikkTOO MUCH WORK!
18:46.01Mikki'll go kill naxx instead. less work.
18:46.01GnarfozI'm not the one who has a problem with it, because I'm using a (modified, yay Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator) US layout :D
18:46.17Gnarfoznaxx is: http://casualcorps.com/pics/fun/Trout-notes.jpg
18:46.47AckisWorkwhat state has the code VT?
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18:54.41stolenlegacyback
18:54.50stolenlegacyGnarfoz: erm, it seems to only be a deadkey in xchat
18:55.03stolenlegacyevery other program it works as normal
18:55.07Gnarfozactually
18:55.09stolenlegacythe first press doesn't do anything
18:55.14Gnarfozit being a deadkey SHOULD be the normal behaviour :D
18:55.19stolenlegacybut the second prints out 2 ^^s
18:55.28Gnarfozwell, hmm
18:55.36Gnarfozbecause you can't ^ a ^
18:55.42Gnarfoz(haha, that looks weird)
18:55.42stolenlegacyyeh
18:55.45stolenlegacy:)
18:55.49Gnarfozthat would lead to "it's a deadkey in GTK apps"
18:55.52Stanzillaits like that in every GTK app
18:55.57Stanzillayes
18:56.03Gnarfozbecause Stanzilla has the same in Pidgin (hopefully actually Carrier :D)
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18:56.32Funkeh`"i just got myself a bowl of cereal and then realised i had no milk" Some people just definte the word student
18:56.35Gnarfozwhich, in turn, would lead us to: GTK and Windows have different ideas of how deadkeys are supposed to work when used with a key that can't be modified
18:56.45GnarfozFunkeh`: haha, true
18:57.00stolenlegacyGnarfoz: i might test that on my suse distribution one day when i remember to
18:57.12stolenlegacytriple-boot 4tw
18:57.26StanzillaGnarfoz: nah pidgin, what's carrier? that weird fork?
18:57.55Gnarfozfunpidgin was it's name for like 5 minutes
18:58.10Gnarfozstolenlegacy: triple boot here, too, but I never boot anything besides XP :p
18:58.45stolenlegacyGnarfoz: i always boot vista, dunno why...
18:58.54Gnarfozthough I could, theoritically, turn on my replacement router PC (still not properly installed, man I'm lazy) or install a deadkeys layout on the (p2 333, 256mb URGH) laptop sitting next to me currently
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18:59.03stolenlegacybut with my comp, i can probably afford doing so
18:59.15GnarfozI could well enough, lol, I just don't want to :D
19:01.20stolenlegacyQuestion: how can i match a string against a pattern? like "%s %d", so that "channel 3" would match it (return true), but "officer" would not (return false/nil)
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19:03.46stolenlegacyoh well, i'll just do string.match and check for the first string
19:03.50stolenlegacyand if that
19:05.54Pneumatushmm, is there any cost difference between accessing a table with string keys vs numeric keys?
19:06.15Pneumatus["123"] = true; vs [123] = true;
19:06.39quiescensprobably not anything significant
19:06.49stolenlegacyPneumatus: i assume not, but why would you want to use string when you can just use numbers
19:07.09stolenlegacyWhat's the syntax for string.match when i want to look for text (non-numeric), by the way?
19:07.21Pneumatusstolenlegacy: because the data im looking up in the table starts off as a string and i'm having to tonumber() it
19:07.27Pneumatusfor numeric indicies
19:07.39stolenlegacyi tried string.match("CHANNEL 1", "%s+") but that returns nil
19:07.53stolenlegacyPneumatus: then use strings :)
19:07.53quiescens%s is space
19:08.06Pneumatusim guessing the cost of tonumber()ing each is the worst thing
19:08.14stolenlegacyquiescens: really?
19:08.26stolenlegacyi'm doing "local pet = format("%s%d", "raidpet", c);" and that works for me
19:08.41stolenlegacyor do those have different syntaxes?
19:08.52Pneumatusyou probably want %w, not %s
19:08.56stolenlegacyokay thanks
19:09.11Pneumatus%w is any alpha-numeric character iitc
19:09.13Pneumatus*iirc
19:09.25stolenlegacywhy does it return nil then :/
19:09.29stolenlegacyoh well, %w works
19:10.52stolenlegacybut % d IS decimal, isn't it? :D
19:11.02Pneumatusformat strings != lua patterns
19:11.17Pneumatus%s = string in format()
19:11.35quiescenshttp://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4.1
19:11.57stolenlegacyPneumatus: oh :)
19:12.20stolenlegacylua is far more complicated when it comes to that then php, which i used earlier :)
19:13.21Pneumatusstring.format() basically follows printf placeholders, but lua patterns are a completely different beast to the likes of perl regex
19:14.39quiescenseh
19:14.56PProvostWhen using the validate method with an input type in AceConfig, is it still that you return the error string? Or is there a new way?
19:14.58quiescensfor simple stuff its mostly the same except it uses a % instead of a \
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19:17.01PProvostAnyone?
19:18.32PneumatusPProvost: according to the docs that still appears to be true
19:18.53PProvostIt doesn't appear that the error message gets used in the UI though
19:18.55PProvostOh well
19:19.32Pneumatusi've got a feeling theres a ticket up about that, saying that its sent to the frame status bar, which doesnt exist
19:19.36Pneumatusor something along them lines
19:19.43PProvostHokey
19:19.59Pneumatus@ticket wow/ace3 2
19:20.00RepoPneumatus: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ace3/tickets/2 - No validation feedback when using the config via the blizzard options. Reported by: yssaril. Type: Defect. Updated: 4 days ago. Component: AceConfig-3.0. Status: Waiting. Priority: Medium. Votes: 0. Comments: 1
19:20.07Pneumatus^^ that one
19:20.41Adirellethen just vote
19:20.47PProvostyepyep
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19:24.19KaeltenNivFreak: ping
19:24.39NivFreakKaelten: going to try that one in about 10 mins
19:24.41NivFreaker, or not
19:24.43NivFreakmeeting again
19:24.49NivFreakprobably more like 1.5 hours :)
19:24.50Kaeltenlol
19:24.54NivFreakbeen a crazy week
19:25.04Kaeltenlooking for faithful mac user to test the client
19:25.19NivFreaksame one you sent me?
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19:28.37winkillerKaelten: about that one guy who asked about curse probably losing its email database (becaiuse he got spam to "user+curse@domain" .-  I also got some weird "fake curse" spam today
19:29.01Kaeltenoh?
19:29.08Kaeltenforward it to me?
19:29.11winkillerto?
19:29.15Kaeltenbmclemore@curse
19:29.20winkillerok
19:29.24KaeltenNivFreak: yeah, but I'll have a new one later today I think
19:31.16NechcknKaelten mac client you say?
19:31.27Kaeltenyep
19:31.30Nechcknlinky?:
19:31.49Funkeh`Kaelten, any feedback from that ticket?
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19:32.54Funkeh`hugs Seerah1
19:33.01AckisWorkKaelten: what about my needs? I have needs troo!
19:33.16KaeltenFunkeh`: which ticket?
19:33.31Funkeh`the one from yesterday about tainted addons
19:33.52AckisWorkstarts singing Tainted Love
19:33.54KaeltenFunkeh`: um....  you mean that swatter could make addons tained etc?
19:33.57KaeltenNechckn: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/289359/CurseClient.zip
19:34.09Funkeh`Kaelten, no, curse client
19:34.15Funkeh`updating tainted addons
19:34.23Kaeltenoh that.... that may be fixed in .18
19:34.28Kaeltennot sure if it made it in before the cut
19:34.35Funkeh`oki
19:34.45NechcknKaelten very good, sir.  Will take a look later and let you know, et cetera. /wave
19:35.07KaeltenNechckn: it's kinda rough in some places and has issues, but it does work, more or less ;)
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19:37.25winkillerKaelten: sent
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19:41.28stolenlegacyanyone natively speaking any language other then english or german willing to localize a few phrases/sentences?
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19:43.58onaforeignshorewhich language though :p
19:44.04onaforeignshoremine isn't supported
19:46.53Fisker-fuck
19:46.57Fisker-my addons are out of
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19:47.09Funkeh`you have addons?
19:47.09stolenlegacyonaforeignshore: any that has its own wow locale :)
19:47.41stolenlegacyonaforeignshore: except for enUS/enGB and deDE, i have localized those myself
19:49.54Repo10malygosflamer: 03stolenlegacy * r16 MalygosFlamer.lua: Added Features:
19:49.57Repo- You can now choose to broadcast to a chat channel (like Trade, or LocalDefense) - that, of course, includes custom channels.
19:50.53stolenlegacy~seen Repo
19:50.57purlrepo is currently on #waruidev (1h 55m 15s) #wowace (1h 55m 15s) #curseforge (1h 55m 15s). Has said a total of 11 messages. Is idling for 1m, last said: '- You can now choose to broadcast to a chat channel (like Trade, or LocalDefense) - that, of course, includes custom channels.'.
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19:51.44stolenlegacyhm
19:51.49stolenlegacy~seen purl_
19:51.50purli haven't seen 'purl_', stolenlegacy
19:51.57stolenlegacy:)
19:56.14stolenlegacyQuestion: is there a way to tag my files so that when i commit to my repo, i don't have to set them to "Release" manually in the file management, but that they are tagged as "release" automatically
19:57.03durcynhttp://wow.curseforge.com/knowledge-base/repository-faq/
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19:58.37Repo10heatsink: 03durcyn 04v1.2-beta * 4c26a5b /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.2-beta
19:58.54AckisWorkhttp://kb.curseforge.com/repository-faq/#w_how-does-the-packager-know-whether-a-tag-is-a-release is more precise
20:01.33stolenlegacythanks
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20:02.58stolenlegacylol
20:03.04stolenlegacyjust found this one on wowwiki
20:03.05stolenlegacyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/Night_elves
20:03.15Adyshmm?
20:03.16Adysow
20:03.49stolenlegacyAdys: oh, yours :)
20:03.58Adysno, got it sent in a mail
20:03.59Adysloved it
20:04.02stolenlegacyyeh
20:04.14stolenlegacyvery different PoV regarding the events of lore :
20:04.15stolenlegacy:)
20:04.26Repo10engulf: 03durcyn 07master * 1.1-beta3-2-g301b0df / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
20:04.29Repo301b0df: - use AceGUI-SharedMediaWidgets.
20:04.32Repod268295: use AceGUI-SharedMediaWidgets
20:04.52durcyn.. stupid git.
20:05.42stolenlegacyanyone is familiar with the config window of carbonite?
20:05.51stolenlegacycarbonite quest, more specifically
20:05.52HirsuteNot I
20:11.42Repo10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1519 / (2 files in 2 directories): AckisRecipeList:
20:11.45Repo- fixed several trainer locations (ticket 384)
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20:15.48AckisWorkfuck the author or ARL imo
20:16.20HirsuteAckisWork: Eh?
20:16.37AckisWorkwot/
20:17.12Hirsute"fuck the author or ARL imo"?
20:17.16AckisWorkaye
20:17.18AckisWorkdon't you agree?
20:17.36HirsuteI'm not sure what you're referring to.
20:17.43GnarfozI am
20:17.44AckisWorkmyself :P
20:17.45Hirsute(probably just being slow today)
20:17.48Gnarfozand I wholeheartedly agree
20:17.57HirsuteOh, the author *of* ARL?
20:18.05Gnarfozyeah.
20:18.17AckisWorkmeh i can't type
20:18.19AckisWorknever could
20:18.19HirsuteNow I'm understanding.
20:18.26Gnarfozexactly, fuck yer. :p
20:20.10durcyni wouldn't sleep with the author of ARL if he was the last person on earth.
20:20.33AckisWorkthat's ok, my gf does it nightly
20:20.47HirsuteI don't think it's sleeping he's interested in anyway....
20:22.24AckisWork@project arl
20:22.26RepoAckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Jim-Bim (Author), Zhinjio (Author), Elkano (Tester), ananhaid (Translator), andy52005 (Translator), Dessa (Translator), Pettigrow (Translator), Pneumatus (Translator), Primaxina (Translator), Swix (Translator). Updated: 7 minutes ago. Tickets: 11/387
20:22.34PneumatusHEADDESK
20:25.53AckisWorkyou should submit a ticket to get removed from that... :P and man mibbit sucks today relogging
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20:33.31Gnarfoz@project titler
20:33.32RepoGnarfoz: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/titler/. Titler. Game: WoW. pyius (Manager/Author). Updated: 126 days ago
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20:36.07winkilleranyone else constantly reads this as tit-ler?
20:36.49nevcairielindeed
20:37.08durcynthat's almost Godwin territory
20:37.23Gnarfozclose, but no mustache.
20:37.31onaforeignshorechange your title every second... that's ludicrous
20:37.53Gnarfozthat's just the rather idiotic default setting ;p
20:38.10Gnarfozif you've got upwards of 10 titles, it's fun :p
20:38.35onaforeignshorewould irritate me if someone's title changed that often lol
20:38.59pentium166i say go for it
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20:39.09nevcairieli don't even have titles enabled
20:39.14GnarfozI don't show em, either.
20:39.16pentium166i've been playing with titles off most of the time since whenever titles actually went in
20:39.23Gnarfozbut I know it's enabled by default. hrhrhrhr.
20:40.04winkillerI also disabled it :(
20:40.05JaxonI haven't looked in a long time, but I don't even need player names unless it is a friend or a guildmate.
20:40.11JaxonI should see if I can disable that.
20:40.20onaforeignshorethank goodness aloft ignores them :)
20:40.31Gnarfozaloft doesn't even come into play
20:40.46Gnarfozalso, aloft CAN display titles :p
20:41.10Xinhuani use titler ;p
20:41.16Xinhuan25 titles now
20:41.26Gnarfozyou're such a nerd...
20:41.30GnarfozI'm a fan! \o/
20:41.34winkillero_O
20:41.39Gnarfoz;D
20:41.44winkillerI have 9
20:41.48winkillerthat's creepy already
20:41.55winkillerbecause I missed Merrymaker by 1 Hat
20:42.10Gnarfozwith 25, setting it to 3 already makes a full rotation exceed an hour ;D
20:42.13JaxonThe only question is, do I hate myself enough to grind up Bloodsail and then re-earn all the Goblin reps by grinding keys.
20:42.23GnarfozI missed Love Fool because I simply wasn't home :(
20:42.26winkillerwhy re-earn?
20:42.31winkillerscrew goblins
20:42.44JaxonWell, I'm 37/40 Exalted rep.
20:42.54JaxonAnd the goblin towns are the easiest remaining
20:43.03Gnarfozin fact, I was actually observing Valentine's Day, lol
20:43.03winkillerthen do goblins before? :P
20:43.15winkillerLove fool was a joke
20:43.16Gnarfoznah, not observing, fucking words tripping me up again
20:43.24winkillerI spent 16h straight getting my candy bag
20:43.27Gnarfozor... no it's actually correct, I think
20:43.28Jaxonwinkiller: I'm not sure you understand.
20:43.41Gnarfoz~x de en wahrnehmen
20:43.50Gnarfozfuck babelfish
20:43.53onaforeignshorewell, if you get 7 of the World Events, you get a Violet Proto-Drake - 310% mount
20:43.53Gnarfozuseless POS
20:43.54winkillerhehe
20:44.08winkillerperceive?
20:44.19Gnarfoznah, observe is actually correct, I thihnk
20:44.20Gnarfoz*think
20:44.22JaxonGnarfoz: observing is appropriate.
20:44.42winkillerJaxon: seems I don't, no
20:44.49GnarfozI'm missing Brew of the Month anyway, so I can still get Love Fool in 2010, if I still play then
20:44.52Gnarfoz;D
20:44.59winkiller:P
20:45.04winkillerI got that one
20:45.13winkillerbut as I said, have to wait till Christmas
20:45.17winkillerIf I manage the rest
20:45.22Gnarfoz;>
20:45.36Jaxonwinkiller: grinding out Bloodsail rep will put me at max hated with the goblin towns, which has some fairly bad repurcussions aside from just not being able to talk to goblins (they are everywhere and control everything).
20:46.09winkillermy 60 shammy is Admiral
20:46.19winkillerand now till 70 I haven't met a single goblin
20:46.19Gnarfozgot loads of DKs with Admiral
20:46.41winkillerfacerollers, ya
20:47.43NivFreakKaelten: first observation, font is almost unreadable on my 17"
20:49.16Fisker-NivFreak
20:49.19Fisker-some of your addons are out of
20:49.59NivFreakheh
20:50.12NivFreakthere is that as well ;)
20:51.49Fisker-i think Kaelten|away is hanging himself now
20:51.58Fisker-i can be pretty demoralizing :(
20:52.05NivFreakhaah
20:52.30NivFreakhttp://casualcorps.com/pics/cc-2.1.1.18.png
20:54.13robotuschFisker-, not really a surprise now, is it?
20:58.29NivFreakKaelten|away: after an update all, I no longer have a list of addons in the main window, and refresh doesn't repop them :)
20:58.55NivFreakKaelten|away: lol
20:59.00NivFreakI think it updated them all to my desktop....
20:59.32NivFreakhahah yea it did
20:59.55NivFreakor wth
20:59.57NivFreakjust most of them
21:00.39stolenlegacyanyone is natively speaking any language except german and english that has it's own wow locale?
21:00.55sacarasccheers
21:01.03sacarascI got me my Calamity's Grasp!
21:01.06Repo10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1520 RecipeDB (3 files in 1 directory): AckisRecipeList:
21:01.09Repo- fixed vendor id and removed redundant trainer (ticket 383)
21:01.47stolenlegacysacarasc: gratz
21:02.04sacarascThanks
21:03.21stolenlegacyby the way, is there any offhand fist that has the matching model?
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21:08.02sacarascNot that I've seen
21:08.36Pneumatusthe elem shaman fist?
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21:09.36durcynno, that's wraith strike
21:15.22NivFreakKaelten: on the unknown addons page, it only shows one addon at a time (a new one appears after I install the listed one)
21:15.36NivFreakKaelten: and it's also installing into the .app's current directory, not the addon directory
21:18.07Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r64 / (4 files in 3 directories):
21:18.10RepoAdded threat value to threat mode. Turns out it is useful. :)
21:18.13RepoHeader is now customizable + looks a bit cuter in default setting.
21:18.32NivFreakKaelten: it looks like it decompresses the addon to the local directory and then moves it?
21:18.48Kaeltenyeah bug in that version
21:19.04Kaeltengoing to start using /tmp instead
21:19.35NivFreakdid you see my last few bugs too?
21:19.36NivFreak:)
21:21.45NivFreakthere must be a race in the update code
21:21.53NivFreakif I do individual updates, they work fine
21:22.17NivFreakbut using update all seems to always result in the majority of the addons not getting updated, and their temporary directories left in place
21:22.55NivFreakand the end result is, I have to restart to client to get the addon list to rescan and try again
21:23.56Fisker-nice
21:24.02Fisker-some addons are out of on macs as well
21:25.12NivFreakyes
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21:25.27NivFreakI thought you were referencing the mac version :)
21:25.54NivFreakhttp://casualcorps.com/pics/cc-2.1.1.18-after-update-all.png
21:26.12nevcairielit updates your addons away
21:26.16nevcairiel*updated
21:26.27NivFreaka restart repops the list
21:26.42NivFreakand then update-all hoses it again and leaves a mess of temporary addon folders in place
21:26.56NivFreaksomeone is missing an error condition I think :)
21:28.12KaeltenNivFreak: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/289359/CurseClient_2_19.zip
21:29.38Fisker-are my addons still out of?
21:29.49Fisker-oh
21:29.51Fisker-macfags ;_;
21:29.56nevcairielthrows a playstation at Fisker-
21:30.01Fisker-do not want
21:30.34Groktarjumps up and down on the playstation
21:31.21Repo10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1521 RecipeDB (2 files in 1 directory): AckisRecipeList:
21:31.24Repo- fixed trainer coordinates and vendor location (ticket 387)
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21:44.17Fisker-told you Zarhan
21:44.18Fisker-damnit
21:44.21Fisker-told you zarnivoop
21:44.25zarnivoopmm
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21:44.42Fisker-threat values being useful :P
21:44.50Groktarooh, details on the iron council in uduar!
21:44.53Groktar*ulduar
21:44.56Groktarlord magetankme, lady imimmunetomagic, senor doeslotsofaoe, king ihitreallyhard
21:45.43Fisker-ooooooooooooold Groktar
21:45.51Fisker-what did you expect?
21:47.01Fisker-how do i get it to show it then zarnivoop ?
21:47.35zarnivoopah, oops, forgot to commit it
21:48.28Fisker-haha
21:49.06Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r65 modules/SkadaThreat/Threat.lua: Threat values, take 2
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21:51.02Stanzillashadowpriests will be the new range tanks with shadowform reducing magic dmg :P
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21:53.45selckinuhm dk?
21:54.01Groktarimo, we need more kiting!
21:54.03selckinjust grip that stuff!
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21:58.57vhaarrNivFreak: so any updates on bw now, how's it working out, got any new comments to fling my way?
22:03.11FtH|Daemonauh nice, free server transfer lets you move lvl1 chars and doesnt check for gold limits? that gotta be a glitch
22:03.59selckingold limit was raised
22:04.02FtH|Daemonaand they even transfered a char with a mail from the ah with pending gold in the mailbox
22:04.06selckinmaybe you don't have enough gold
22:04.24FtH|Daemonaselckin i doubt its intended to transfer a lvl1 with 5k gold ;)
22:04.25selckin5k is notting
22:04.38FtH|Daemonatell that to the gold farmers
22:04.51StanzillaFtH|Daemona: Nazjatar now, right?
22:04.52selckinmost ppl have upwards of 40k now
22:04.55FtH|Daemonayup
22:05.04Stanzillagood server?
22:05.14FtH|Daemonawe are in the process of transferring
22:05.33FtH|Daemonathe good thing is, its free and lets you move all your toons and mules for free
22:05.40FtH|Daemonathe bad is ... i dont know yet ;)
22:06.00selckinthe server's you are allowed to transfer too are usualy quite bad
22:06.01FtH|Daemonarumours say ... 2 alterac valleys at any time
22:06.23FtH|Daemonaselckin we were on a release server, with old hardware
22:06.39FtH|Daemonaraiding on the reset day was a no go
22:06.52selckinsame on mine
22:06.57selckinppl > latency
22:07.11FtH|Daemonabecause of 500ms+ latency and 5sec random freezes
22:07.24selckinwe cancelled most raids for like 3 weeks due to lag
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22:09.12FtH|Daemonawe havent raided without lag since the first weekend after release
22:10.04selckinstill if you end up on a dead server with nobody else to play with or recruit from
22:10.09selckinand missing all your old mates
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22:12.30FtH|DaemonaThe worst is
22:12.41FtH|Daemonai am now Dàémona
22:12.48Stanzillahaha :D
22:13.16FtH|DaemonaBut the good thing is, the GM dropped Vannek a mail ;)
22:13.40Stanzillawhat for?
22:13.47Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r66 Options.lua: Removed weird width=full from Bar spacing in config.
22:14.04FtH|Daemonafree nicks for us if the chars that block them are not actively played
22:14.27FtH|Daemonaand problem nuke the 5 man For the Horde blocker from orbit so we dont have to stay For teh Horde ;)
22:15.15FtH|DaemonaBlizz kinda lolstomped us yesterday when they enabled transfers for free, we had planned to do a paid move to a different server for weeks now
22:15.53Pneumatuspaid moves must be really painful for people using all 10 char slots :o
22:15.59Repo10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1522 / (3 files in 2 directories): AckisRecipeList:
22:16.01Repo- added Dalaran daily obtain info to Cake and Stormchops (ticket 388)
22:16.18FtH|Daemonai am glad i only had 6 60+ chars -.-
22:16.26FtH|Daemonathough the pain would have been to move my 4 bank alts :X
22:16.59Pneumatusi wouldnt like to have to get all my junk out of the mail system
22:17.04Pneumatusi dont think ive got enough bags
22:17.11Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r67 / (2 files in 2 directories):
22:17.14RepoHacked LibBars-1.0 into allowing scrolling; seems to work fine.
22:17.41Endzarnivoop: awesome
22:18.43FtH|DaemonaPneumatus i thought the same wenn i moved around 2000 cobalt bars, 3200 infinite dust and beyond 500 GCE ;)
22:18.56FtH|Daemonabut somehow i managedto clean out the mule guild bank
22:21.20Fisker-yep
22:21.23Fisker-zarnivoop is so awesome
22:21.25Fisker-i'm like
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22:22.23Fisker-http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=34584.msg629594#msg629594 <-lol
22:22.33Fisker-"OMG LOL IT WASN'T VOID ZONE IT WAS FROSTBOLT"
22:22.40Fisker-Translation: Either way i was a scrub and failed
22:26.29Repo10hidelooted: 03Pneumatus * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Add a deDE locale file
22:33.13TradeMarkquestion: anyone know of an addon to track "bid" whispers? wouldn't need to do anything fancy, just show names of people who bid in a list, with the ability to clear (sort of like RollTracker)
22:33.34TradeMarkin a DKP context
22:34.20GnarfozFtH|Daemona: you're telling me that within 1 day, some asshole transfered AND managed to find 10 idiots to block your guild name? lolwtf :P
22:34.36FtH|Daemonayup
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22:41.04GnarfozFtH|Daemona: unawesome :O
22:42.09vhaarrTradeMark: my bananadkp has code for that
22:43.30TradeMarkok I'll investigate, thanks
22:43.41Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop 041.0-7 * r68 : Tagging as 1.0-7
22:44.14ZhinjioTorhal_: heya
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22:45.52Groktarslaps Tuller around a bit with Fisker-
22:46.30Tullernot quite sure what that's supposed to imply
22:46.52Gnarfozfor you: randomness
22:49.48Tullerone must wonder what would be the proper random reply.  obviously random as a reply to random is not so much random as not random, therefore, the answer is only, "so, its windy today"
22:55.15AckisWorkhttp://notalwaysright.com/big-lies-are-better-than-small-ones/1035 win
22:56.19winkilleryeah, was a nice one
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23:04.16Repo10engulf: 03durcyn 07master * 1.2-beta-1-gfb30fc5 Engulf.lua: [+1 commit] fix option name/desc fuckup
23:05.27onaforeignshoreCC still doesn't treat Skinner right - just fyi - 2.1.1.18 RC1
23:06.17Stanzilla[Skinner] => [Recycle Bin]
23:06.20Pneumatusskinner needs to fail less at making users move lua files around imo :P
23:06.43Pneumatusi bet its action packed with framexml errors :o
23:07.16onaforeignshoreprobably, but until there's an alternative to it, what choice do we users have?
23:08.06Pneumatusno idea, dont use it :o
23:09.54Jaxononaforeignshore: what do you need skinner for?
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23:10.10JaxonI don't think it provides any functionality
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23:10.20Arrowmasterhttp://notalwaysright.com/youre-only-as-old-as-you-act/1561
23:10.22Arrowmaster..........
23:10.30onaforeignshoreJaxon: no functionality other that changing the look from blizzard default
23:10.37Arrowmasterwhat the fuck
23:11.36Arrowmasteronaforeignshore: nobody gives a fuck about skinner, its the authors fault the CC cant work with it
23:12.17HirsuteArrowmaster: I think this is my favorite from notalwaysright: http://notalwaysright.com/hes-dying-but-he-looks-fabulous/1483
23:12.24HirsuteThe last line is *perfect*
23:13.54onaforeignshoreArrowmaster: I know, but they said it was "fixed" so I'm just reporting it isn't. I have a .cmd file to move the files for me anyway
23:14.04Arrowmasterit cant be fixed
23:14.14Arrowmasterits the addon authors fault
23:14.43JaxonIt is the shitty way it handles loading suppot for extra addons.
23:14.51onaforeignshoreI know that
23:14.59onaforeignshoredon't shoot the messenger :p
23:14.59JaxonAnd really, the skinner now is an abortion from the original addon
23:16.33Pneumatussame as auctioneer/gatherer needs to diaf for packaging swatter+something else with both addons
23:17.49JaxonStubby, Informant, etc.
23:17.52JaxonI hate that.
23:18.30JaxonWhile we are bitching, why do some of the addons in WoWInterface's RSS feed feel the need to include their revision history since the beginning of time.
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23:23.08falconindy1Anyone know if its possible to use table.wipe on a table declared as a local?
23:23.36vhaarrof course it is
23:23.57falconindy1then its likely an issue with declaration...
23:24.18Pneumatususe wipe() to save a table lookup tho :P
23:24.30falconindy1hah, touche
23:24.43falconindy1ummm, i wanna check for the existance of a table and create it as a local if it doesn't exist... something like "if not myTable then local myTable = {} end"
23:25.05PneumatusmyTable is only scoped to the "then .. end" part
23:25.08vhaarrthat makes a new |myTable| inside that if clause
23:25.09Pneumatusso that would be useless :P
23:25.15falconindy1aha
23:25.21vhaarrlocal tbl = nil
23:25.27vhaarrif not tbl then tbl = {} end
23:26.15falconindy1is there a programatical difference between an nil table and an empty table?
23:26.21Pneumatusyes
23:26.24Repo10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1523 / (3 files in 2 directories): AckisRecipeList:
23:26.27Pneumatusyou cant insert() into a non-table
23:26.27Repo- fixed some wrong faction ids (ticket 385)
23:26.30Repo- fixed faction section in documentation file
23:26.34vhaarrthere's no such thing as a "nil table"
23:26.41vhaarrthere's just nil
23:27.10falconindy1oh, durp...  your declaration of tbl = nil isn't a table
23:27.46Pneumatusyou probably actually want to check next(tbl) rather than just tbl
23:28.18vhaarrnah
23:28.30vhaarrwhat you want is if type(tbl) ~= "table" then tbl =  {} end
23:28.40vhaarrbut I think he's fine with the nil check
23:28.44vhaarrdon't confuse him
23:29.06Pneumatusisnt next(tbl) just the same as type(tbl) == "table" for evaluation purposes tho :P
23:29.11Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Kemayo * r154 LibPeriodicTable-3.1-Tradeskill/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-Tradeskill.lua: Add missing parchments to Tradeskill.Mat.BySource.Vendor
23:29.18falconindy1i think that should work. really, i just wanna make a temporary table on the first iteration and wipe it clean when im done with it. at some point that function will get called again and i want the same table to be used
23:30.16KemayoIt's somewhat nice that a built-in table.wipe exists now.  I was getting sick of rewriting table-cleaning functions everywhere.
23:30.22vhaarrPneumatus: no it's not
23:30.22Pneumatusin that case you probably want local tbl = {}; if not next(tbl) do [[populate]] else [[do cool stuff]] end
23:30.54Pneumatusdepending what you do between the table declaration and the if/else
23:31.15Pneumatusvhaarr: just realised, next() will still be nil on an empty table
23:34.45TorhalZhinjio: Yola.
23:37.41vhaarrKemayo: you're back? ^^
23:37.50vhaarrKemayo: I raped buffdrop a bit
23:37.54vhaarrsome time ago
23:38.59FtH|Daemonafreaking ouch
23:39.00FtH|Daemonahttp://feeds.gawker.com/~r/gizmodo/full/~3/qBqO8CHbTjo/guy-loses-a-chunk-of-his-finger-in-neodymium-magnet-accident-nsfw
23:40.18jnwhitehArrowmaster: I branched, made a change and now I want to merge it into origin/master
23:40.41jnwhitehArrowmaster: What process should I be using to do this so it doesn't generate the intermediate commit>
23:41.03Arrowmasteryou didnt make any changes to master after making the branch?
23:41.23jnwhitehno
23:41.29jnwhitehso it should fast-forward, right?
23:41.50Arrowmasteryeah
23:41.53Kemayovhaarr: I'm maybe-back. I'm on a 10-day trial. :)
23:42.00vhaarr:p
23:42.35KemayoAnd buffdrop needed a good raping. I wrote it to handle my wife's great need to know when Righteous Defense dropped, and never really polished it.
23:43.23KemayoI'm amused that my 10-day trial has thus far resulted in three new addons.
23:44.01KemayoApparently I'm very picky about my experience.
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23:44.33NivFreakvhaarr: I think I don't have the patience left to use bigwigs, I'm sorry to say (in response to your earlier question)
23:44.49vhaarrNivFreak: then why did I fix the things you reported :p
23:45.03NivFreakvhaarr: I had zero timers again for malygos
23:45.15vhaarrwell it works fine here, I just did him today
23:47.51Groktarcurls up in NivFreak's lap and goes to sleep
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23:55.50Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r192 / (2 files in 2 directories): RaidBuffStatus:
23:55.53Repo- Added zhCN translations.
23:55.56Repo- Fixed bug when srcname is blank in combat log.

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