| 00:01.34 | ckknight | does anyone know if it's possible to handle HTTP POSTs with an encoding? I have some data I want to send to the server, but I'd like to gzip it instead of sending it raw. I have control over both the client and server, but is there a proper way to do this? |
| 00:02.05 | taleden | depends on your web server software probably |
| 00:02.39 | ckknight | I have full control |
| 00:02.50 | taleden | I think apache might handle it seamlessly -- detecting the (gzip) encoding header, unzipping, and feeding the resulting stream to the next layer (php? ruby? python? whatever) |
| 00:02.54 | taleden | but I'm not sure about that |
| 00:03.12 | taleden | I know recent versions of php also have stream handlers which I believe can handle gzip, so if apache doesn't do it you can do it yourself in php |
| 00:03.12 | ckknight | as far as I can tell, no |
| 00:03.24 | ckknight | oh, I better clarify |
| 00:03.27 | taleden | check your options in apache.conf maybe? might be disabled by default |
| 00:03.36 | ckknight | I want the request to be encoded, not just the response |
| 00:03.42 | ckknight | that's the oddity |
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| 00:03.46 | taleden | I got that part :) |
| 00:03.56 | ckknight | I can't find anything useful in google :( |
| 00:03.58 | taleden | the request has headers too, which apache can see |
| 00:04.10 | taleden | so I thought maybe apache would see that the client said the post was gzipped and unzip it on the fly |
| 00:04.11 | ckknight | yea, but Content-Encoding isn't a standard header |
| 00:04.14 | taleden | before passing it to the script handler |
| 00:04.19 | ckknight | hmm |
| 00:04.20 | taleden | really? even in http 1.1? |
| 00:04.28 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:04.31 | taleden | hm |
| 00:04.35 | taleden | well |
| 00:04.40 | ckknight | Accept-Encoding is a request thing, and Content-Encoding is in the response |
| 00:04.40 | taleden | you could roll your own then I guess |
| 00:04.45 | ckknight | but not in the request |
| 00:04.50 | ckknight | maybe... |
| 00:04.56 | taleden | pass one POST var that says "gzip=1" and the other "data=..." |
| 00:05.05 | taleden | ... being your (base64 encoded?) gzipped data |
| 00:05.10 | ckknight | well, the content type is x-protobuf |
| 00:05.13 | ckknight | which is a binary format |
| 00:05.22 | ckknight | not urlencoded |
| 00:05.27 | ckknight | no big deal there, though |
| 00:05.36 | ckknight | I can achieve smaller (about 50% savings) by gzipping, I've found |
| 00:05.56 | taleden | what's your actual situation? is it really apache/php? |
| 00:06.01 | ckknight | apache/python |
| 00:06.23 | taleden | and you're not POSTing in the standard urlencoded format? |
| 00:06.28 | ckknight | correct |
| 00:06.50 | taleden | does python have a raw input handler? i did something similar while writing a json server handler in php |
| 00:07.00 | ckknight | yea, I can handle that all fine |
| 00:07.01 | taleden | that is, the POST data was json, not urlencoded var=value pairs |
| 00:07.11 | ckknight | I wrote a json parser as well as a protobuf parser |
| 00:07.11 | thul | python has everything and you should bow your head to the mighty god of pythonian. |
| 00:07.17 | taleden | so in php I did basically fopen("php://input") which is a special tag for php to read its input stream raw |
| 00:07.21 | taleden | and then passed that result to json_decode |
| 00:07.24 | ckknight | and my code is actually gonna be in the next version of werkzeug |
| 00:07.27 | ckknight | so I have that all fine |
| 00:07.33 | ckknight | I could even gunzip right there |
| 00:07.42 | ckknight | I just don't think there's a good, standard way to do this :( |
| 00:07.51 | taleden | I'd say try whatever python's mechanism is to get the raw input stream |
| 00:08.03 | taleden | as if you'd called it on the command line and typed to stdin |
| 00:08.06 | ckknight | I have absolutely no issues getting the raw input stream, taleden |
| 00:08.13 | ckknight | that's not the issue |
| 00:08.26 | ckknight | it's that this is a fucked up situation and I wish there was a standard way to do this |
| 00:08.28 | thul | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgNBhNIbQ_0 |
| 00:08.29 | taleden | ..so, you can't just feed that stream to a gzip library? |
| 00:08.50 | sztanpet | i think he wants it to interop with browsers |
| 00:08.50 | taleden | well, as you pointed out, HTTP doesn't give you an encoding/compression header for requests |
| 00:08.54 | taleden | which maens, you're right, there's no standard |
| 00:08.58 | taleden | so don't worry about it, roll your own |
| 00:09.18 | taleden | do browsers ever gzip their requests? |
| 00:09.28 | taleden | if there's no HTTP header to indicate that, I can't imagine why any browser would |
| 00:09.29 | sztanpet | no |
| 00:09.31 | taleden | since it couldn't be sure the server would understand |
| 00:10.00 | taleden | so who cares about interop with browsers? he must have his own client software doing the gzipping, so he can control both ends of it, like he said |
| 00:10.29 | ckknight | yea, I control the client |
| 00:10.36 | ckknight | and this API system won't be accessed through browsers |
| 00:10.37 | ckknight | hmm |
| 00:10.44 | taleden | so who cares about standards? |
| 00:10.48 | taleden | you've found that no such standard applies |
| 00:10.50 | taleden | so make some shit up that works |
| 00:11.05 | ckknight | anybody know if there's a standard way to specify the content type for something that's gzip'd, while still telling what it is? |
| 00:11.13 | ckknight | i.e. I want to gzip an x-protobuf stream |
| 00:11.15 | ckknight | err |
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| 00:11.18 | ckknight | application/x-protobuf |
| 00:11.20 | Repo | refactored to Prat:RegisterDropdownButton, which handles the func fixup. it also let me not embed acehook into playernames |
| 00:11.24 | ckknight | what does that become? |
| 00:12.31 | ckknight | is there even a standard for a mimetype like that? |
| 00:12.45 | taleden | probably not |
| 00:12.51 | taleden | seems like an issue of layers |
| 00:12.57 | taleden | you have an outer layer, which is type "gzipped data" |
| 00:13.02 | taleden | and the inner layer of type "x-protobuf" |
| 00:13.15 | taleden | but in theory, you might have any number of layers.. maybe base64(gzip(x-protobuf)) |
| 00:13.21 | ckknight | it's not base64'd |
| 00:13.26 | taleden | I know, I'm using an example |
| 00:13.28 | taleden | of additional layers |
| 00:13.31 | ckknight | there's no issues sending binary across the stream |
| 00:13.33 | ckknight | but yes |
| 00:13.36 | ckknight | that's what I want to convey |
| 00:13.36 | taleden | because once you have more than one layer, there's no reason you might not have 100 layers |
| 00:13.47 | taleden | and I don't know of any standard that handles an arbitrary number of wrapped layers |
| 00:13.50 | ckknight | maybe I'll just send Content-Encoding along... |
| 00:13.52 | taleden | in the context of HTTP content-types |
| 00:14.23 | taleden | whatever the outermost layer is, use the standard content-type for that |
| 00:14.33 | sylvanaar | if it isnt html, then it doesnt matter |
| 00:14.34 | taleden | once it's in the hands of your python script, indicate whatever you want however you want |
| 00:14.42 | taleden | because I think you're beyond the scope of standards at that ponit |
| 00:15.09 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:15.12 | ckknight | lousy incomplete standards |
| 00:15.24 | taleden | well, conservative standards :) |
| 00:15.30 | sylvanaar | http defines accept-encoding, because you dont start by sending a huge wad |
| 00:15.36 | taleden | can't anticipate every situation, and layered encodings is a weird one |
| 00:15.44 | ckknight | sylvanaar: but I'm starting out sending a POST |
| 00:15.47 | sylvanaar | right |
| 00:16.08 | taleden | so you tell the webserver how to interpret the POST, in whatever its outermost encoding layer is |
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| 00:16.22 | taleden | once the webserver interprets that layer and hands the enclosed data to your script, even if it has further encoding layers, you deal with those yourself |
| 00:16.23 | sylvanaar | is it to a web page? |
| 00:16.29 | sylvanaar | or are you making a web service |
| 00:16.32 | sylvanaar | ad hoc |
| 00:16.43 | ckknight | I'd call it a web service |
| 00:16.55 | sylvanaar | then dont use the http headers |
| 00:17.23 | taleden | well, I dunno, I'd say use them for that first layer |
| 00:17.37 | sylvanaar | you own both ends including the URI |
| 00:17.57 | taleden | for example I recently wrote a client to talk to a credit card processor's web services platform at work, and their first layer is xml based, so I had to send a content-type:application/xml with my requests |
| 00:18.10 | taleden | but everything after that, the format of the xml post body, was specified by the processor's api |
| 00:18.30 | taleden | and they basically made up whatever was convenient for them, cuz it sure didn't look like any of the other payment processor api's I've seen, they're all different at that layer |
| 00:19.10 | sylvanaar | are you doing something similar to webhooks? |
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| 00:43.01 | taleden | anyone know a comprehensive list of disorient and stun effect names? |
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| 00:44.42 | rapidgame | anyone here have mediawiki experience? |
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| 00:51.04 | ckknight | taleden: I decided to send it as application/x-protobuf-gzip |
| 00:51.04 | ckknight | :P |
| 00:51.42 | taleden | :) |
| 00:54.10 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r238 modules/AltNames.lua: verified #94 is working. fixed a bug i introduced a min ago |
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| 00:56.04 | Torhal | ckknight: ChickenWire. Go, go, go! |
| 00:56.25 | ckknight | but I'm working on client-server binary transfer with compression |
| 00:56.33 | ckknight | doesn't that sound like more fun? |
| 00:56.44 | Torhal | Does it involve nekkid chicks bellydancing? |
| 00:56.59 | sylvanaar | cant you just reuse something already written |
| 00:57.18 | sylvanaar | there are 1 million different X over HTTP implementations |
| 00:57.54 | ckknight | sylvanaar: what would I reuse? |
| 00:58.14 | ckknight | that is not inferior to what I have, that is |
| 00:58.19 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 00:59.17 | sylvanaar | well, not knowing all the specifics, i just posed the question in general |
| 00:59.51 | ckknight | I'm using protobuf |
| 00:59.54 | ckknight | supporting it is not hard |
| 01:01.18 | ckknight | I just wanted to support gzipped POST requests, which is a nonstandard thing |
| 01:03.49 | sylvanaar | yeah, i wonder how its done for web services, or if it is |
| 01:04.27 | ckknight | pretty sure it's just not done |
| 01:08.00 | fewyn | i'm looking for an addon that can auto accept invites from certain people? someone told me an addon called automator but i can't find it anywhere |
| 01:08.07 | ckknight | Automaton |
| 01:08.08 | ckknight | maybe |
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| 01:17.47 | taleden | does any event fire when entering or leaving an arena match or bg? |
| 01:18.02 | Greltok | PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 01:18.40 | taleden | hm |
| 01:18.59 | taleden | IsActiveBattlefieldArena() apparently returns false during setup, only true after it begins, so it probably won't be ready yet at P_E_W |
| 01:19.21 | Greltok | How about select( 2, IsInInstance() )? |
| 01:19.34 | Greltok | local instanceType = select( 2, IsInInstance() ) |
| 01:19.39 | Greltok | if instanceType == "pvp" or instanceType == "arena" then |
| 01:19.43 | taleden | hmm |
| 01:19.44 | taleden | that might do it |
| 01:20.48 | Greltok | If a player moves from one BG directly to another (through being queued), then the only event fired is PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, afaik. |
| 01:21.18 | Arrowmaster | ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA should fire |
| 01:21.22 | Greltok | Well, RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE may fire too. |
| 01:21.44 | Primer | you're fired |
| 01:22.01 | taleden | P_E_W is fine as long as IsInInstance() returns current data immediately |
| 01:22.23 | Greltok | I believe it does. |
| 01:22.27 | taleden | cool |
| 01:22.37 | Arrowmaster | i think it does most of the time, it might have had a race condition before |
| 01:22.38 | Greltok | Or at least I've not noticed that it doesn't. ;) |
| 01:24.45 | Arrowmaster | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/handynotes_lunarelders/ |
| 01:24.48 | Arrowmaster | heh a little late |
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| 01:27.11 | RaydenUni | when you guys do Heigen, does someone always play the "We Can Dance" song? |
| 01:27.30 | taleden | no but I wish someone would, it might remind people to not such |
| 01:27.32 | taleden | suck* |
| 01:27.35 | RaydenUni | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcOZ6xFxJqg |
| 01:27.38 | taleden | still never done that without 5 deaths |
| 01:27.45 | RaydenUni | it's pretty epic |
| 01:27.48 | RaydenUni | i tanked it last time |
| 01:27.54 | RaydenUni | i'm good at tanking heigen apparently |
| 01:28.10 | taleden | our tanks do fine, its just our melee that always get themselves killed |
| 01:28.17 | Arrowmaster | did anybody else get a PM on the wowace forums about a job openning |
| 01:28.22 | taleden | or rather, sometimes kill themselves, sometimes get killed by lazy dispellers |
| 01:29.03 | taleden | was it from that one shady dude who posted about his NDA and his special quakecon contacts? |
| 01:29.29 | Arrowmaster | no it was from an account thats never made any forum posts |
| 01:29.41 | RaydenUni | Safety Dance is the name of the song |
| 01:29.52 | Greltok | It sounds legit. You should send him your credit card number. |
| 01:30.06 | Arrowmaster | it actually is legit |
| 01:30.14 | Arrowmaster | just shady way of advertising |
| 01:30.25 | Arrowmaster | wondering if i was singled out or if it was spam |
| 01:30.45 | taleden | you're a special snowflake arrowmaster, it was an offer for you and only you |
| 01:30.54 | Arrowmaster | i didnt mean that |
| 01:31.01 | Greltok | Aye, probably as a motivational speaker. |
| 01:31.47 | Arrowmaster | i ment if it was only sent to preselected people or if it really was spam that they tried to send to everybody including the non programmers |
| 01:33.19 | RaydenUni | i didn't get it |
| 01:33.33 | Arrowmaster | ok BioWare has officially died as being a quality game developer |
| 01:33.36 | Arrowmaster | https://jobs.ea.com/jobs/jobposting.aspx?refresh=1&postid=a0z50000000Hnb1 |
| 01:33.46 | Arrowmaster | 'Develop and debug in-game user interface systems based upon our technical design requirements, using ActionScript. ' |
| 01:34.01 | RaydenUni | for using flash for their gui? |
| 01:34.09 | RaydenUni | why not? |
| 01:34.15 | Arrowmaster | because its fucking retarded? |
| 01:34.19 | RaydenUni | why? |
| 01:34.24 | Arrowmaster | its flash |
| 01:34.28 | RaydenUni | ok, and? |
| 01:34.33 | Arrowmaster | ITS FLASH |
| 01:34.38 | RaydenUni | flash it's good for art and stuff like that |
| 01:34.41 | RaydenUni | is* |
| 01:34.53 | Arrowmaster | on the web maybe |
| 01:34.58 | RaydenUni | why not in games? |
| 01:35.00 | Arrowmaster | but as a game gui |
| 01:35.07 | Arrowmaster | ITS FUCKING FLASH |
| 01:35.10 | RaydenUni | and? |
| 01:35.15 | RaydenUni | we considered using flash for our game |
| 01:35.19 | Arrowmaster | why the fuck would you embed flash into your game |
| 01:35.25 | Arrowmaster | its fucking retarded |
| 01:35.25 | RaydenUni | but the guy doing the gui wanted to dig into it and write his own framework |
| 01:35.56 | RaydenUni | it's not like your gui has to be uber fast |
| 01:36.22 | RaydenUni | gosh darn it |
| 01:36.30 | RaydenUni | i watched the last episode of Big Bang Theory without realizing it |
| 01:36.36 | RaydenUni | now 10 episodes are ruined |
| 01:36.37 | RaydenUni | damn it |
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| 01:44.59 | Repo | -WEB! added compatibility fix for eqdkp1.4 plugin (thx kalem) |
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| 01:59.25 | pompy | RaydenUni: owned |
| 01:59.51 | RaydenUni | it's not like i'm going to wonder how it all ends now |
| 01:59.52 | RaydenUni | damnit |
| 02:01.09 | Hirsute | sylvanaar: You been notified of the errors with the update to Prat an hour ago? |
| 02:03.05 | sylvanaar | did you exit your game and restart? |
| 02:03.27 | Hirsute | sylvanaar: Was updated while I was out of game, have since exited and restarted more than ones. |
| 02:03.30 | Hirsute | s/ones/once |
| 02:03.49 | sylvanaar | pretty sure its working, what error |
| 02:04.18 | Hirsute | http://www.pastey.net/108073 |
| 02:04.39 | sylvanaar | exit and restart game |
| 02:04.56 | Hirsute | Okay, I'll do it again. *shrug* |
| 02:05.06 | sylvanaar | maybe my fault hold on |
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| 02:07.54 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r240 services/unitpopupmenus.lua: missing file - meh |
| 02:08.16 | sylvanaar | i blame the CC for deleting my working copy |
| 02:08.22 | Hirsute | Ah. Thanks sylvanaar! |
| 02:09.38 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar 043.0.4 * r241 : Tagging as 3.0.4 |
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| 02:13.52 | sylvanaar | Hirsute work now? |
| 02:14.23 | Hirsute | sylvanaar: checking right now |
| 02:17.20 | Hirsute | sylvanaar: Yep, golden. |
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| 02:20.34 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/projects/cartographer/tickets/99-carthographer/ |
| 02:20.36 | Arrowmaster | ........... |
| 02:22.01 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: how... wow |
| 02:22.27 | Dark_Elf | looks like problem with damagemeters to me |
| 02:23.45 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: why do new tickets always get assigned to the project manager by default? |
| 02:24.30 | taleden | who else would they get assigned to? |
| 02:25.08 | Arrowmaster | nobody |
| 02:25.38 | taleden | makes sense to me to assign it to somebody to start with, so that person gets a notification (once those are fixed, anyway) |
| 02:26.03 | taleden | and presumably the project manager would be the one choosing who else to assign it to instead |
| 02:26.03 | Arrowmaster | doesnt make sense when that person doesnt work on the project anymore |
| 02:26.10 | taleden | then why are they the manager? |
| 02:26.16 | Arrowmaster | because its their project |
| 02:27.12 | taleden | if they're not working on it, seems to me they should assign a new manager |
| 02:27.29 | Arrowmaster | its still their project |
| 02:27.47 | taleden | well, they can either pay attention and have it be their project, or not pay attention and then.. is it really their project? |
| 02:28.00 | Arrowmaster | yes its still their project |
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| 02:31.37 | Arrowmaster | and this is why i hate Swatter |
| 02:31.38 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/projects/cartographer/tickets/95-error-when-logging-in/ |
| 02:36.21 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Any time someone sends me an error log with Swatter in it, I tell them I can't help them because the log is useless. |
| 02:36.42 | Torhal | And WTF is DingoII? |
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| 02:48.52 | pompy | hm my friend just told me that in phase 2 on malygos, he came down and jus meleed the group. hm. |
| 02:49.29 | Xinhuan | known bug |
| 02:49.33 | Xinhuan | wipe and try again ;p |
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| 02:54.19 | Nechckn | Torhal internal version name |
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| 03:05.48 | RaydenUni | pfft |
| 03:05.52 | RaydenUni | know the trash before faerlina? |
| 03:06.00 | RaydenUni | the caster that cast in groups? |
| 03:06.07 | RaydenUni | i pulled two groups and all the healers flipped out |
| 03:06.08 | RaydenUni | :( |
| 03:06.12 | RaydenUni | i'm not allowed to do that anymore |
| 03:06.37 | Arrowmaster | we pulled the entire room once |
| 03:07.09 | RaydenUni | i told everyone i was going to pull 2 groups |
| 03:07.12 | RaydenUni | they all said let's not |
| 03:07.14 | RaydenUni | so i did anyways |
| 03:07.17 | RaydenUni | only one person died! |
| 03:07.27 | RaydenUni | but apparently all the healers blew their cooldowns |
| 03:07.55 | TradeMark | it's cake on 10-man |
| 03:08.00 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 03:08.04 | Xinhuan | we pull the whole room at one go |
| 03:08.09 | TradeMark | but yeah a lot of damage in 25 |
| 03:08.20 | Arrowmaster | we did it on 25 |
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| 03:49.26 | Tones | ANYONE IN HERE? |
| 03:49.37 | Tones | RAR CAPS |
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| 05:24.56 | Groktar | twilight vanquisher groktar, yay |
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| 05:30.59 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Feh. |
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| 05:59.59 | Repo | 10luamodule: 03sylvanaar * r10 / (3 files in 1 directory): recoded to use compat5.1 as the base code. |
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| 06:02.07 | Groktar | no deaths on 3d, either |
| 06:11.23 | Repo | 10auracle: 03taleden * r30 / (5 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 06:11.26 | Repo | - (hopefully) fixed a bug that caused saved variables to not update correctly from addon version 0.2.3 to 0.3.x |
| 06:11.29 | Repo | - fixed a bug that caused changes to window visibility by group and combat status to not take effect immediately |
| 06:11.33 | Repo | - window styles may now set scale and opacity, which will be inherited by trackers |
| 06:11.35 | Repo | - windows may now set visibility based on instance type (none,battleground,arena,5man,raid) |
| 06:11.54 | Repo | 10auracle: 03taleden 040.3.2-beta * r31 : Tagging as 0.3.2-beta |
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| 06:26.27 | Torhal | taleden: Why the "hopefully"? |
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| 06:34.14 | taleden | cuz I've been trying to fix that bug for like 5 revisions now |
| 06:34.19 | taleden | and haven't gotten it right yet :) |
| 06:34.31 | taleden | it only affects people who ran 0.2.3 before upgrading to 0.3.0, but still |
| 06:34.48 | orionshock | ? |
| 06:35.27 | Torhal | taleden: Have you tried installing 0.2.3 and upgrading from there? |
| 06:35.35 | taleden | it has to do with updating the saved vars table structure between versions, when the structure changes |
| 06:35.36 | Torhal | Only way to be sure, methinks. |
| 06:37.10 | orionshock | taleden: easy, just add in a version field to the sv table.. if it's not there or less than the last stable then redo the db structure. |
| 06:38.04 | taleden | orion: that's what I did |
| 06:38.04 | taleden | originally |
| 06:38.04 | taleden | but I forgot that acedb doesn't actually store anything that matches its defaults table |
| 06:38.11 | taleden | and I had the version in the defaults, so it was never stored, so every upgrade it magically became the new default |
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| 06:42.05 | orionshock | lol |
| 06:42.20 | orionshock | check out guild craft's core file for the way i did it :) |
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| 06:50.17 | Bruners | why is that kmcguire dude taging every commit, he cant even had time to test what he changed before he tags |
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| 08:26.25 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky * r31 / (11 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 08:26.28 | Repo | added new custom artwork |
| 08:26.31 | Repo | spellid list now included for current build -- scanning remains as a fail-safe for out-of-data spellid list |
| 08:26.34 | Repo | changed keyboard handling to only take keyboard focus when ctrl is pressed |
| 08:26.37 | Repo | ctrl-x deletes |
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| 08:50.41 | mitch0 | the license info doesn't seem to propagate from wowace to curse. is that a known issue? (or does anybody care at all? :) |
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| 09:03.51 | Repo | 10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm * r53 / (4 files in 2 directories): MorgDKP2 |
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| 09:03.57 | Repo | -fixed rare raidtracker nil error |
| 09:04.00 | Repo | -removed rounding from zerosum module |
| 09:04.31 | Repo | 10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm 04v3.1 * r54 : Tagging as v3.1 |
| 09:10.00 | Fisker- | pastamancer aka spaghettimancer? |
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| 09:49.48 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky * r32 / (2 files in 1 directory): fixed link activation |
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| 10:02.29 | Repo | 10fu-bar_skills-plus-fu: 03Jaydehawk * r129 / (3 files in 1 directory): FuBar_SkillsPlusFu: |
| 10:02.32 | Repo | - 3.0.6 - added cooldowns for Mooshroud, Ebonweave, Spellweave and Icy Prism (serious2) |
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| 10:06.56 | Elkano | omg ^^ http://projects.sfmedialabs.com/?p=3 |
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| 10:11.31 | winkiller | Ackis: ping |
| 10:13.01 | Primer | wow |
| 10:13.06 | Primer | dude just handed me mats for a high level enchant and I just DC'd |
| 10:13.16 | Primer | and I can't reconnect |
| 10:13.21 | Primer | and I want to go to bed |
| 10:13.34 | sacarasc | Hah |
| 10:14.20 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:14.38 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Just the person I wanted to bug. |
| 10:15.03 | Shefki | Can you look at this: |
| 10:15.04 | Shefki | http://www.wowace.com/projects/ace3/tickets/23-confirm-on-a-select-config-entry-misbehaves/ |
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| 10:29.27 | nevcairiel | Shefki: I'll take a look |
| 10:34.30 | Shefki | nevcairiel: There's a patch, but I'm not sure if that's exactly the proper solution. |
| 10:34.58 | Shefki | It certainly fixes it for me. But it probably is not desireable for some control types. |
| 10:37.20 | Shefki | Incidentally, I've probably found a way to cause the Dropdown control to crash wow in PB4. |
| 10:37.29 | Shefki | Only seems to happen on Windows though. |
| 10:38.36 | Bruners | wtf, some retard is undercutting me with 30g on gems >< |
| 10:39.09 | Shefki | There's a guy in my guild who undercuts other guild members by 40g on gems. |
| 10:39.18 | Shefki | There's some quality drama for you. |
| 10:45.59 | nevcairiel | Shefki: yeah your patch is a rather radical attempt at fixing it, heh |
| 10:52.49 | Bruners | anyone got a half decent retri paladin key layout? |
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| 11:00.07 | winkiller | 1 autoattack |
| 11:00.10 | winkiller | 2 autoattack |
| 11:00.13 | winkiller | 3 autoattack |
| 11:00.22 | winkiller | WASD - movement |
| 11:01.24 | Bruners | one million seals and judgements now :S |
| 11:01.26 | sacarasc | 5 pewpewpew |
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| 11:04.25 | Megalon | one millions seals |
| 11:04.33 | Megalon | but you only use one, so who cares |
| 11:04.52 | Megalon | :7 |
| 11:14.24 | haste | why play with WASD, when you can play with FRST! |
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| 11:16.54 | quiescens | o.o |
| 11:22.23 | Bruners | haste: FRST ? |
| 11:22.35 | haste | different keyboard layout :p |
| 11:22.39 | haste | same as ESDF |
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| 11:57.25 | Bruners | haste: what retarded layout is that? :P |
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| 12:01.48 | Grum | lol indeed it doesnt match up with any i can find ^^ |
| 12:02.38 | haste | Bruners: colemak |
| 12:03.18 | Bruners | never heard of |
| 12:03.43 | haste | it be nice :3 |
| 12:03.55 | Bruners | i have tried to use dvorak |
| 12:04.11 | Bruners | but i gave up after a week |
| 12:04.12 | Bruners | :P |
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| 12:05.28 | Bruners | haste: is there øæå ? |
| 12:07.15 | haste | not easily |
| 12:07.44 | haste | using qwerty positions: altgr+r = ø, altgr+w=å, altgr+z=æ |
| 12:08.02 | haste | a friend of mine uses a modified layout which is better for norwegian tho' |
| 12:08.35 | thul_ | why is it that some nations, like norway for instance, forbid pro boxing, beacause 15-40% of pro boxers have sympthoms of brain damage (most of those, very mild damage), while smoking is legal with the justification: "people have to have the freedom to make their own choices, also stupid ones" ? |
| 12:09.16 | nevcairiel | You don't show people smoking as entertainment |
| 12:09.23 | Bruners | its violence |
| 12:09.38 | Megalon | k1 fight club! |
| 12:10.15 | thul | well, "it is violence" or "it is entertainment" are very value-base opinions. A bit "good god fearing christians should not..." etc :-P |
| 12:10.23 | Bruners | why is it so that some nations forbid snus but allows pro boxing? :P |
| 12:10.57 | Bruners | and smoking |
| 12:11.56 | thul | well, that is the kind of paradoxic rule-making that I do not understand. |
| 12:13.04 | Xinhuan | woo 100 wintergrasp wins done |
| 12:13.13 | Xinhuan | also i think blizz increased the VoA mount drop rate this patch |
| 12:13.19 | Xinhuan | i saw/heard at least 5 drop today |
| 12:13.30 | Xinhuan | on my faction/server |
| 12:13.36 | Bruners | i havent even done 10 wintergrasps |
| 12:13.49 | nevcairiel | VoA? |
| 12:14.01 | Cheads | haven't gotten one single drop from VoA yet.. for some odd reason |
| 12:14.02 | nevcairiel | there drops a mount? |
| 12:14.33 | Wobin | VoA drops a mount? |
| 12:14.44 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 12:14.45 | Xinhuan | always has |
| 12:14.48 | Xinhuan | was 1% before patch |
| 12:14.55 | Xinhuan | after patch it seems more like 5% now |
| 12:15.04 | nevcairiel | wowhead doesnt even know about it |
| 12:15.08 | Xinhuan | it does |
| 12:15.16 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43959 |
| 12:15.25 | Xinhuan | see date of first comment |
| 12:15.50 | Bruners | aha |
| 12:15.56 | Bruners | so thats where the grand mammoth comes from |
| 12:17.00 | nevcairiel | oh my its MS patch day again |
| 12:17.29 | Bruners | patching what? |
| 12:18.31 | nevcairiel | IE7 security, new malware removal tool, some other random shit |
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| 12:19.09 | Bruners | better not include restarting |
| 12:19.23 | nevcairiel | security in SMB protocol, too apparently |
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| 12:21.39 | Megalon | btw, what triggers that serverwide "The Ice Stone has melted!" message? |
| 12:21.56 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
| 12:21.58 | nevcairiel | but i got it alot |
| 12:22.45 | SunTsu | It's sort of annoying |
| 12:23.44 | nevcairiel | man i'm tired |
| 12:23.56 | nevcairiel | and its middle of the day =( |
| 12:26.41 | Xinhuan | if i switched from USB modem -> Ethernet modem + ethernet card, does that offload CPU network stuff to the card |
| 12:26.45 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 12:27.56 | [dRaCo] | it should |
| 12:28.47 | nevcairiel | depends on your card |
| 12:28.59 | evl | most modern cards offload |
| 12:29.00 | nevcairiel | but most modern cards at least support checksum offloading |
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| 12:36.09 | Xinhuan | using an old 3com one |
| 12:36.31 | Xinhuan | i can also use the realtek onboard one |
| 12:36.34 | nevcairiel | what kind of bandwidth is going through that card? |
| 12:36.37 | Xinhuan | is there any advantage of using either? |
| 12:36.42 | Xinhuan | adsl1 |
| 12:36.55 | nevcairiel | mbit? |
| 12:37.07 | Xinhuan | 180 kb/sec max download i think |
| 12:37.12 | Xinhuan | 1megabit |
| 12:37.18 | nevcairiel | and you worry about offloading? |
| 12:37.24 | Repo | 10mtarget: 03gameldar * r22 MTarget.lua: |
| 12:37.24 | Xinhuan | just curious |
| 12:37.27 | Repo | MTarget: fixed up the initialisation error and added more output for the broadcast setting. |
| 12:37.36 | Repo | 10torta: 03Quezacolt * r29 / (11 files in 2 directories): Changed UI.xsd path in XML files |
| 12:37.38 | Xinhuan | it doesn't hurt! |
| 12:37.52 | Repo | 10mtarget: 03gameldar 04beta2 * r23 : MTarget: |
| 12:39.35 | nevcairiel | the usual onboard realteks can at least do checksum offloading, however i'm not sure where a onboard actually processes the checksum then, maybe still in the cpu :p |
| 12:41.19 | Kalroth | offloading is BAD |
| 12:41.22 | Kalroth | slaps nevcairiel |
| 12:41.27 | Kalroth | bad nev, bad! |
| 12:41.33 | nevcairiel | you're bad! |
| 12:41.45 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: who's immortal, baby! |
| 12:41.59 | nevcairiel | You're not, since i can kill you right now |
| 12:42.09 | Kalroth | that's no fair |
| 12:42.43 | nevcairiel | also, i havent really been playing for a month due to exams and shit |
| 12:42.50 | nevcairiel | general boringness of content |
| 12:45.35 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r152 / (3 files in 3 directories): -- Tainted Crystal 39266 |
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| 13:05.53 | Xinhuan | zeksie :) |
| 13:06.09 | Zeksie | wut :) |
| 13:06.23 | Xinhuan | pinging you to this thread - http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=265491#post265491 |
| 13:09.44 | Zeksie | yeh. i see the point. |
| 13:09.47 | Zeksie | mmm |
| 13:10.07 | Xinhuan | oh and how can i activate "fading out" on my "target"? |
| 13:10.23 | Xinhuan | it seems to work on all frames except my targat |
| 13:10.28 | Xinhuan | for range finder that is |
| 13:10.54 | Zeksie | were you targetting a player or an npc? |
| 13:10.59 | Xinhuan | so i end up using that "little hand" |
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| 13:11.25 | Zeksie | if an npc returns nil for UnitCanAssist("player","target"), then the range finder will also not function for it |
| 13:11.26 | Xinhuan | oh ok i get it, it doesn't work on hostile units, unless its a spell? |
| 13:11.35 | Xinhuan | a hostile one i mean |
| 13:11.44 | Zeksie | yeh, that too. the range finder is for friendlies |
| 13:11.59 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 13:12.16 | Xinhuan | well ok you figure out the bandage stuff ;p |
| 13:12.24 | Zeksie | yeh. thinking about that. |
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| 13:18.09 | Xinhuan | oh also zeksie, xperl has a problem with something else as well |
| 13:18.11 | Zeksie | easy actually. can just do away with the GetItemCount check. if they item is in the setup, then they must have dragged it there. if later they use them all up, it just won't work |
| 13:18.31 | Zeksie | go on? |
| 13:18.40 | Xinhuan | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=15729 |
| 13:18.42 | Xinhuan | read that |
| 13:18.49 | Xinhuan | its affecting loading in xperl |
| 13:19.58 | Zeksie | happen to know the problem it's causing? |
| 13:21.58 | Zeksie | so much more in it i wish I'd have re-wrote when I took it over. it's so cumbersome to change now :| |
| 13:22.05 | Xinhuan | its to do with frame positioning/scaling |
| 13:22.21 | Xinhuan | like it uses default instead of the saved ones |
| 13:22.25 | Xinhuan | from SVs |
| 13:22.30 | Zeksie | mmm |
| 13:22.56 | Xinhuan | oh does anyone know if scroll of ressurect works to let ppl play wrath for 10 days? |
| 13:23.05 | Xinhuan | website says "tbc" |
| 13:23.20 | nevcairiel | i think there is a 10day tbc trial now, but i dont think as resurrect yet |
| 13:23.23 | nevcairiel | er |
| 13:23.25 | nevcairiel | 10day wotlk |
| 13:23.46 | jnwhiteh | you can only get to dalaran by porting or battlegrounds, right? |
| 13:24.01 | Cheads | summon |
| 13:24.24 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: there is a crystal below it that can port you up there, or you just fly in? :) |
| 13:24.31 | jnwhiteh | I'm level 70 |
| 13:24.32 | nevcairiel | the crystal requires you to have been in there onec, though |
| 13:24.52 | nevcairiel | well then find a mage =P |
| 13:25.28 | Pneumatus | (or get to level 74 so you get the quest to port there) |
| 13:25.59 | Xinhuan | jnwhithe: you know star's rest? |
| 13:26.08 | Xinhuan | the image of the wizard teleports you up |
| 13:26.16 | Xinhuan | only available after a certain point i think |
| 13:26.19 | Xinhuan | not sure when |
| 13:26.22 | Pneumatus | level 74 :) |
| 13:26.23 | nevcairiel | lvl 74 is that point |
| 13:26.23 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 13:26.29 | nevcairiel | and there are alot of npcs that do that |
| 13:27.15 | Xinhuan | just pay a mage 5g to port u lol |
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| 13:27.54 | Pneumatus | but yeh, before 74 your choice is lock summon/mage portal/BG queue |
| 13:28.26 | Xinhuan | bgqueue can only be done by someone NOT at lvl 80 |
| 13:28.29 | Xinhuan | fyi ;p |
| 13:29.28 | Zao | Xinhuan: Aren't there BG tiers for 71-80 for some BGs? |
| 13:29.36 | Pneumatus | AV is 71-80 |
| 13:29.47 | Xinhuan | its 71-79 |
| 13:29.51 | Xinhuan | 80 gets its own tier |
| 13:29.51 | Cheads | level 70 isn't in that bracket anyway |
| 13:30.07 | Zao | What about eots? |
| 13:30.08 | Xinhuan | but if clad is 70, then he can only get lvl 70s |
| 13:30.22 | jnwhiteh | yeah we'll just wait I guess |
| 13:30.22 | jnwhiteh | =/ |
| 13:30.37 | Zao | Ah no, AV it is. |
| 13:30.48 | Zao | wowwiki claims 71-80 for AV. |
| 13:30.48 | jnwhiteh | getting from Fjord to IF sucks tho |
| 13:30.53 | jnwhiteh | and trying to do the Love dailies |
| 13:31.04 | Xinhuan | aha |
| 13:31.24 | jnwhiteh | Oh, need to go to Dalaran to finish it |
| 13:31.25 | jnwhiteh | bugger |
| 13:31.32 | nevcairiel | love has dailies? |
| 13:31.53 | jnwhiteh | i didn't mean dailies |
| 13:31.55 | jnwhiteh | I meant dealie |
| 13:32.04 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 13:34.05 | Fisker- | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
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| 14:10.42 | chexsum | numa numa ey |
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| 14:27.58 | ckknight | truth: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1234359049160.jpg |
| 14:28.46 | nevcairiel | wonders how many USians would actually believe that |
| 14:28.52 | nevcairiel | thinks of a high number |
| 14:29.38 | chexsum | i dont get it |
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| 14:32.20 | sacarasc | Haha |
| 14:32.35 | sacarasc | ckknight: You still suck for linking to /b/ |
| 14:32.47 | ckknight | I disagree |
| 14:32.56 | ckknight | chexsum: it's not Europe, and Europe's not a country. |
| 14:33.12 | chexsum | i didnt know that |
| 14:33.18 | ckknight | ... |
| 14:33.21 | ckknight | go to the corner. |
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| 14:51.59 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 14:53.19 | Pneumatus | morning Kaelten |
| 14:53.57 | Pneumatus | Kaelten: i know UAC is being looked at, but if you didnt know already, if you "Install with CC" from curse.com, even if the CC is running elevated it asks you once again if you want to run it elevated |
| 14:54.18 | Kaelten | omg |
| 14:54.23 | Kaelten | yeah, I know why |
| 14:54.30 | Kaelten | didn't think about it though |
| 14:55.16 | kenlyric | wtf does CC do |
| 14:55.21 | kenlyric | that it needs run elevated? |
| 14:55.28 | Pneumatus | nothing :) |
| 14:56.33 | nevcairiel | It requests the access to be able to update itself |
| 14:56.42 | nevcairiel | however, it does that always |
| 14:56.50 | nevcairiel | and not only when running the updater |
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| 14:57.17 | Kaelten | he said it was because he needs the main proc to be admin so it can launch the updater as admin |
| 14:57.38 | nevcairiel | cant the updater elevate itself after launch? |
| 14:57.47 | Pneumatus | the main proc can run as a normal user, then when the updater runs it can ask to elevate |
| 14:58.13 | nevcairiel | I should poke my head into UAC programming |
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| 14:58.15 | Pneumatus | or it can install itself under /users/public and never have to worry about it :) |
| 15:00.23 | nevcairiel | sadly, there isnt much public documentation about that |
| 15:00.41 | nevcairiel | all docs are in the MSDN or TechNet librarys, which only are available to subscribers |
| 15:01.08 | Pneumatus | Kaelten: dunno if its known either, but the CC doesnt track current/latest versions properly for working directories |
| 15:01.18 | nevcairiel | does it have to? |
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| 15:01.24 | Kaelten | yeah they're basically ignored |
| 15:01.38 | Pneumatus | clear the version columns for them then? |
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| 15:38.27 | PProvost | Nevcariel - docs are open: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/default.aspx |
| 15:38.37 | PProvost | What are you looking for? |
| 15:38.54 | nevcairiel | Specific information about UAC restrictions and elevation |
| 15:38.58 | thul | http://www.boingboing.net/2009/02/09/every-swear-word-on.html |
| 15:39.10 | PProvost | Restrictions? Or how to launch elevated? |
| 15:39.44 | nevcairiel | Information what i can do and more specifically, cannot do, while running as a restricted user |
| 15:39.57 | nevcairiel | How elevation works, what restrictions apply to that, etc |
| 15:40.03 | nevcairiel | I was unable to find details about that yet :P |
| 15:40.04 | PProvost | It isn't really about API. Basically you are running as "User" |
| 15:40.19 | PProvost | And when you try to do something that doesn't work, it prompts the user to elevate |
| 15:40.26 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Vista / Windows 7, or earlier? |
| 15:40.36 | PProvost | UAC is Vista+ only |
| 15:40.36 | nevcairiel | Did anything earlier have UAC? :) |
| 15:40.42 | Thrae | Prompting to elevate sounds like Vista+ |
| 15:40.59 | PProvost | So things like: |
| 15:41.03 | nevcairiel | But yeah, targeted directly at UAC, Vista+ |
| 15:41.05 | PProvost | - writing to windows |
| 15:41.09 | PProvost | - writing to program files |
| 15:41.15 | PProvost | - writing to someone else's homedir |
| 15:41.22 | PProvost | - writing to hkcu |
| 15:41.25 | PProvost | etc |
| 15:41.29 | PProvost | All require elevation |
| 15:41.40 | PProvost | And you can elevate by spawnin a new process |
| 15:42.07 | Kaelten | PProvost: can a process currently being executed be elevated? |
| 15:42.15 | PProvost | Nope. Restart |
| 15:42.31 | Kaelten | can an application running as normal launch an app as admin |
| 15:42.32 | PProvost | Or you can register your app as always requiring elevation |
| 15:42.39 | PProvost | Kaelten: yes |
| 15:42.57 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Basically the difference between an "Admin" and a LUA (Limited User Account) in Vista is that the Admin account can self-elevate, while the LUA account requires Admin credentials to elevate. |
| 15:43.05 | PProvost | Look at the System.Diagnostics.ProcessStartInfoo object |
| 15:43.21 | PProvost | Use psi.Verb = "runas" |
| 15:43.25 | Kaelten | what it boils down to, is that the new client tries to elevate itself all the fucking time, and it pisses people off |
| 15:43.28 | Kaelten | heh |
| 15:43.48 | PProvost | then System.Diagnostics.Process.Start(psi) |
| 15:44.03 | PProvost | They have two choices: |
| 15:44.09 | Thrae | Kaelten: If you make a UAC Manifest file, you can make it elevate once for the entire session. |
| 15:44.12 | PProvost | 1. Install Wow somewhere unprotected |
| 15:44.15 | PProvost | 1. STFU |
| 15:44.24 | PProvost | (that should have been 2) |
| 15:44.32 | nevcairiel | The elevation is required for the auto-updater of the client |
| 15:44.37 | nevcairiel | not the actual addon updating |
| 15:44.47 | PProvost | nevcairiel: Stop installing in program files |
| 15:44.50 | Thrae | Kaelten: However, since WoW should be installed in Public\Games, people shouldn't be getting Elevation requests unless they're LUA |
| 15:44.55 | PProvost | Make it a net installer |
| 15:45.02 | nevcairiel | PProvost: its a damn application, they belong in profram files :P |
| 15:45.12 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.www.curseforge.com/pkgmeta-file/ by ckknight |
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| 15:45.39 | Thrae | nevcairiel has a point. |
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| 15:45.41 | PProvost | nevcairiel: ClickOnce deployment |
| 15:45.50 | PProvost | ClickOnce apps don't go in Program Files |
| 15:46.00 | PProvost | And can auto update |
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| 15:46.03 | nevcairiel | PProvost: the point is not to stop the elevation prompt for me, or you, or Thrae, its for the joe-user out there running vista, and not caring where he installs it |
| 15:46.23 | PProvost | You can't solve this |
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| 15:46.30 | PProvost | This is why Joe user hates Vista |
| 15:46.40 | Thrae | nevcairiel: You could install it in the Public directory where WoW installs itself, going the Blizzard route. |
| 15:46.44 | PProvost | Every f-ing app elevates at one point or another |
| 15:46.49 | PProvost | And it pisses people off |
| 15:47.06 | nevcairiel | Indeed, but the problem is that the updater wants to elevate on every launch |
| 15:47.11 | PProvost | Or the Ruby way: C:\Ruby |
| 15:47.12 | nevcairiel | and not only when it auto-updates |
| 15:47.23 | nevcairiel | i hate apps that spam my root dir |
| 15:47.28 | PProvost | nevcairiel: You could do this |
| 15:47.36 | Thrae | nevcairiel: That's probably because it's changing a file in Program Files |
| 15:47.37 | PProvost | Make the auto-updater be a separate process |
| 15:47.43 | PProvost | And spawn it elevated only when you need to |
| 15:47.45 | nevcairiel | PProvost: it is, i believe |
| 15:47.56 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Like writing to a configuration file |
| 15:48.04 | nevcairiel | Thrae: i thought those go into appdata |
| 15:48.06 | nevcairiel | checks |
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| 15:48.17 | PProvost | The main (unelevated app) can spawn elevated (and prompt) another app |
| 15:48.18 | nevcairiel | Yes they do |
| 15:49.10 | nevcairiel | I still think an app should be able to elevate itself, like i have one option in my app that requires elevation, so only when the user clicks that option he asks for the right =P |
| 15:49.22 | nevcairiel | with that windows-shield icon on the button :) |
| 15:49.36 | PProvost | There are lots of security reasons why that doesn't work |
| 15:49.43 | PProvost | Regardless, this is what is |
| 15:49.45 | *** join/#wowace durcyn (n=durcyn@70.114.145.93) |
| 15:49.49 | PProvost | Launch a new exe and elevate it |
| 15:49.57 | PProvost | Three lines of code |
| 15:50.18 | PProvost | This is in powershell syntax, but you will get the gist: http://www.pastey.net/108105 |
| 15:50.39 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: oh, don't forget when you hit 'install via the client' on the website, it asks for elevatin too! |
| 15:50.49 | nevcairiel | huh |
| 15:50.49 | nevcairiel | why is that |
| 15:51.22 | PProvost | If the client has the "always UAC" bit set in the manifest, it will always elevate no matter what |
| 15:51.27 | Thrae | UAC prompts UAC which prompts UAC to elevate. |
| 15:52.13 | Thrae | More like "Are You Sure?" before UAC prompt which then prompts another "Are You Sure?" which has following it another UAC prompt. |
| 15:52.24 | PProvost | Better in Win7 |
| 15:52.36 | Thrae | After testing Windows 7, I finally decided to go silent on UAC in Vista too. |
| 15:52.37 | nevcairiel | Win7 reduces the UAC prompting by alot |
| 15:53.04 | nevcairiel | And it finally fixed the group-access issue t hat vista has |
| 15:53.22 | nevcairiel | wtb release |
| 15:53.40 | nevcairiel | or RC with the annoying bugs in the beta fixed |
| 15:57.37 | steev | you get nothing! |
| 15:57.42 | *** join/#wowace Hjalte (n=chatzill@62.242.38.50) |
| 15:57.45 | steev | you can't download 7 anymore either |
| 15:57.48 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: the weblink launches a new copy of the client |
| 15:58.00 | Kaelten | which sockets into the main thread and tell it to install and then shuts down |
| 15:58.12 | nevcairiel | that sounds really hackish |
| 15:58.21 | Kaelten | standard practice from what I understand |
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| 15:58.41 | nevcairiel | But what exactly requires admin there? |
| 15:58.50 | Kaelten | nothing |
| 15:58.54 | *** join/#wowace durcyn (n=durcyn@70.114.145.93) |
| 15:58.55 | Kaelten | but because of the manifest file |
| 15:58.57 | Kaelten | it asks anyway |
| 15:59.00 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 15:59.10 | nevcairiel | so that would be gone if you can fix it to only elevate the updater |
| 15:59.13 | Pneumatus | couldnt the updater be a separate process? |
| 15:59.23 | Kaelten | the updater is |
| 16:00.45 | nevcairiel | That would certainly improve usability if you can change it to do that |
| 16:00.49 | nevcairiel | on vista |
| 16:05.10 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-3-0: 03jlam * r43 LibHealComm-3.0.lua: Divine Plea reduces healing by 50% in WoW patch 3.0.9. |
| 16:07.33 | ckknight | NivFreak: ping |
| 16:10.31 | *** join/#wowace Vegeta]BT[AFK (n=Vegeta-G@xdslgq253.osnanet.de) |
| 16:10.58 | ckknight | ~seen NivFreak |
| 16:11.02 | purl | nivfreak is currently on #wowace (10h 47m 35s), last said: 'bleh, extended'. |
| 16:11.59 | AckisWork | ugh I'm so tired |
| 16:12.06 | AckisWork | hamsters are fast and sneaky little buggers |
| 16:12.48 | durcyn | but you eventually caught your breakfast, well done |
| 16:13.04 | AckisWork | ha |
| 16:13.30 | AckisWork | ckknight: Thank you for your kind offer Ackis, however, our client has rejected. |
| 16:13.31 | AckisWork | hahahah |
| 16:13.39 | ckknight | ? |
| 16:13.44 | AckisWork | for ackis.com :P |
| 16:13.48 | ckknight | lol |
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| 16:14.34 | ckknight | now that I have a blog, I don't know what to put in it |
| 16:14.35 | ckknight | P |
| 16:14.37 | ckknight | :P* |
| 16:14.45 | nevcairiel | I wanted to start blogging |
| 16:14.47 | Kaelten | links to b? |
| 16:14.48 | pentium166 | get a camera and some cats |
| 16:14.49 | nevcairiel | but i'm too lazy |
| 16:14.50 | Grum | nude pictures! |
| 16:15.07 | pentium166 | the internet needs more cat photos |
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| 16:15.15 | *** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ |
| 16:15.17 | ckknight | lol, pentium166 |
| 16:15.23 | AckisWork | lol yes more cat pics |
| 16:15.40 | ckknight | I lack pets |
| 16:16.21 | Elkano | still got a P66 and a PII233 at home ^^ |
| 16:16.33 | AckisWork | ckknight: get a hamster |
| 16:16.41 | ckknight | I actually wanna get a pair of chinchillas |
| 16:16.48 | Thrae | I've still got a 8086 somewhere... |
| 16:17.09 | Thrae | 10MHz with the TURBO button pressed! |
| 16:17.15 | Elkano | I hated my dad the day I noticed he disasambled the atari800 though :( |
| 16:17.27 | Grum | Thrae: and if the button bugged you had to hold it !!! awesome |
| 16:17.52 | nevcairiel | I belive my old 8086 had 8 MHz, but no turbo button |
| 16:17.52 | Elkano | well, heading into Battlefield Heroes beta ^^ *vanish* |
| 16:18.22 | Thrae | Yeah 8MHz was its default setting. |
| 16:18.28 | AckisWork | ~google Battlefield Heroes |
| 16:18.41 | nevcairiel | full 20MB of hard disk |
| 16:18.49 | nevcairiel | 360kb 5 1/4 disks |
| 16:19.02 | Thrae | 10MB here and 640KB ram |
| 16:19.10 | nevcairiel | yeah 640 was default :) |
| 16:19.41 | Thrae | Old computers (not as old as the 8086) make great routers and small fileservers |
| 16:19.43 | pentium166 | i have not one, but TWO mostly working p166 boxes |
| 16:19.47 | nevcairiel | I didnt have a 8087 coprocessor though :( |
| 16:20.01 | quiescens | fileservers not so much |
| 16:20.12 | Thrae | Sure, for home use |
| 16:20.15 | nevcairiel | Thrae: my K6-2 does my routing work now |
| 16:20.15 | quiescens | most modern hard drives would take too much effort to install |
| 16:20.16 | Thrae | P2 and up |
| 16:20.21 | AckisWork | Tandy 1000 LX with 256 kb memory and 1 360kb 5 1/2 drive |
| 16:20.35 | Thrae | Well, I'm assuming you have some IDE HDDs laying around like I do |
| 16:20.46 | Thrae | I have like 15 IDE HDDs of varying size |
| 16:21.00 | nevcairiel | alot of my older IDE HDDs died |
| 16:21.07 | Thrae | My fileserver is currently SATA though |
| 16:21.08 | nevcairiel | got some 100 and 200 GB left |
| 16:21.12 | pentium166 | i put a 250gb ide hard drive in one of my 166es and it worked fine |
| 16:21.35 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Buy a cheapo USB->IDE adapter / enclosure |
| 16:21.45 | Thrae | Cheaper then DVDs in the long run |
| 16:21.55 | nevcairiel | Yeah i have an adapter |
| 16:22.22 | nevcairiel | But no enclosure, just some very simple usb thingy |
| 16:23.17 | thul | ~asktoask |
| 16:23.18 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 16:23.25 | NivFreak | ckknight: pong |
| 16:23.29 | thul | ~ask |
| 16:23.29 | purl | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 16:23.36 | ckknight | NivFreak: I saw something cool you'd be interested in |
| 16:23.43 | ckknight | NivFreak: the 2.1 Mac Curse Client |
| 16:23.46 | NivFreak | nice |
| 16:23.48 | NivFreak | url? |
| 16:23.55 | ckknight | oh, you don't get to see it |
| 16:23.59 | NivFreak | lol |
| 16:24.01 | ckknight | you're not worthy |
| 16:24.04 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:24.45 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r110 / (2 files in 1 directory): Add manual changelog |
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| 16:25.15 | steev | http://www.i4u.com/article23190.html |
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| 16:31.31 | Repo | 10broker-reagents: 03Rabbit * r8 reagents.lua: 3.1 won't change ammunition, continue tracking it for now. |
| 16:31.53 | Kaelten | dude it's a mac client |
| 16:32.04 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r111 Changelog.txt: *fart noise* |
| 16:32.29 | Kaelten | NivFreak: we're working out some library stuff now, so it can run on other people's machines |
| 16:32.35 | Kaelten | but after that I'll get you a preview copy |
| 16:33.04 | ckknight | no, he's not worthy |
| 16:33.07 | ckknight | I already said so |
| 16:33.15 | ckknight | :P |
| 16:33.25 | Kaelten | oh.... |
| 16:33.41 | ckknight | sorry, NivFreak, there's a series of trials you have to pass |
| 16:35.44 | NivFreak | Kaelten: sounds like a plan |
| 16:35.58 | NivFreak | ckknight: I already run a half dozen of your addons, isn't that enough of a trial? :) |
| 16:36.09 | ckknight | you have to run 30 of mine |
| 16:36.11 | ckknight | minimum |
| 16:36.38 | NivFreak | if you count all the broken rock libs, I'm probably there ;) |
| 16:37.19 | cncfanatics | wtf |
| 16:37.26 | cncfanatics | when I go to a vendor, stuff has no name |
| 16:37.31 | cncfanatics | and tooltips are stack at retrieving item info |
| 16:37.43 | NivFreak | relog |
| 16:37.43 | CrazyBenny_ | just wait a bit |
| 16:37.55 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: just logged into dalaran after patching? |
| 16:37.59 | nevcairiel | thats called lag |
| 16:37.59 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: yea |
| 16:38.00 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 16:38.07 | nevcairiel | patching clears cache |
| 16:38.07 | cncfanatics | I've been logged since 5 minutes >.> |
| 16:38.11 | nevcairiel | and dalaran lags like hell |
| 16:38.19 | nevcairiel | relogging should be fine |
| 16:38.29 | cncfanatics | did a few times already |
| 16:38.34 | cncfanatics | guess I'll just wait :p |
| 16:38.43 | cncfanatics | and wtf is up with the ice has melted ? |
| 16:38.49 | cncfanatics | getting that spammed as world emote every few minutes |
| 16:40.30 | nevcairiel | yeah we dont know yet |
| 16:40.51 | cncfanatics | THe ice has melted is normaly a zone emote in certain zones in midsummer |
| 16:40.53 | cncfanatics | prolly a fuckup |
| 16:41.52 | Repo | 10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander * r170 MiniPet.lua: MiniPet: |
| 16:41.55 | Repo | - Randomizer fix |
| 16:42.01 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r162 Coconuts.lua: Coconuts: |
| 16:42.04 | Repo | - Randomizer fix |
| 16:42.43 | Repo | 10tabard: 03LordFarlander * r54 / (4 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 16:42.46 | Repo | Tabard: |
| 16:42.49 | Repo | - Randomizer fix |
| 16:42.52 | Repo | - Championing support |
| 16:42.55 | Repo | - Disable option |
| 16:43.50 | Fisker- | i exploited again! |
| 16:43.55 | Fisker- | wtb ban |
| 16:43.58 | quiescens | reported |
| 16:44.10 | Fisker- | thanks |
| 16:44.16 | Funkeh` | Fisker-, your mom |
| 16:44.26 | Fisker- | no your mom |
| 16:44.40 | Funkeh` | wait a minute |
| 16:44.44 | Funkeh` | I see what you did there |
| 16:45.12 | Funkeh` | I really can only reply to that in one way tbh |
| 16:45.14 | Repo | 10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander 044.6.171-beta * r171 : Tagging as 4.6.171-beta |
| 16:45.22 | Funkeh` | Fisker-, no, your mom |
| 16:45.35 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander 042.6.163-beta * r163 : Tagging as 2.6.163-beta |
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| 16:50.09 | cncfanatics | Funkeh`, Fisker-: fal |
| 16:50.12 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: what did u do this time ? |
| 16:50.19 | Gnarfoz | ~fail cncfanatics |
| 16:50.20 | purl | cncfanatics, you Fail! |
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| 16:50.55 | cncfanatics | ~epic fail Gnarfoz |
| 16:50.56 | purl | Gnarfoz, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Gnarfoz, you are that epic failure. |
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| 16:51.38 | Gnarfoz | I didn't fail? wtf |
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| 16:52.50 | Fisker- | cncfanatics the silvershafted arrows can be reused for the achievement |
| 16:52.59 | Fisker- | so you only need one! |
| 16:54.42 | cncfanatics | meh |
| 16:54.43 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:55.24 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.www.curseforge.com/pkgmeta-file/ by ckknight |
| 16:55.46 | Gnarfoz | silvershafts Fisker- |
| 16:56.07 | Repo | 10talented: 03kunda * r391 Locales/deDE.lua: deDE update |
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| 16:58.44 | nevcairiel | yay i got a perma-peddle |
| 16:58.55 | *** join/#wowace cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
| 16:59.31 | Stanzilla | gz :) |
| 17:01.56 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry 04v1.9.5-release * r392 : Tagging as v1.9.5-release |
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| 17:02.34 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Funkeh`] by ChanServ |
| 17:04.58 | Fisker- | i got 2 black dresses nevcairiel |
| 17:05.26 | Fisker- | and 2 picnics |
| 17:05.26 | nevcairiel | i got a picnic too |
| 17:05.26 | nevcairiel | got a black dress for the achievement from a guildy |
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| 17:06.06 | nevcairiel | still need 6 friendship thingys |
| 17:06.16 | Fisker- | what? |
| 17:06.24 | Fisker- | The achievement doesn't count unless you get it from a basket |
| 17:06.36 | nevcairiel | thats what you think |
| 17:07.38 | AckisWork | oh love is in the air starts today eh? |
| 17:07.45 | Fisker- | Then how nevcairiel ? |
| 17:07.45 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 17:07.57 | Fisker- | tell me or i will destroy you |
| 17:08.47 | Stanzilla | normal trade does not work, we just tried that |
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| 17:08.54 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 17:10.07 | Fisker- | anyways you have been reported for exploiting |
| 17:10.29 | *** join/#wowace Kalroth (n=kalroth@2506ds1-hj.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 17:10.35 | AckisWork | http://www.warcraftpets.com/news/archives/?m=2&y=2009#armored_murloc |
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| 17:11.09 | nevcairiel | AckisWork: haha, you wont get it |
| 17:11.10 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 17:11.43 | AckisWork | Players who participate in the tournament can also earn both the exclusive Armored Murloc in-game pet, and the âVanquisherâ title on their live characters by meeting certain eligibility criteria. |
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| 17:12.04 | Fisker- | nevcairiel |
| 17:12.04 | Fisker- | tell |
| 17:12.12 | nevcairiel | AckisWork: "can" :) |
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| 17:14.45 | Fisker- | y so lieous nevcairiel? |
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| 17:15.36 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: you need to die asap |
| 17:15.41 | Fisker- | no |
| 17:17.57 | pompy | 'We've been looking at player feedback in this regard, and are working to develop a better interface to warn players that will be saved to an instance that's been partially, or completely cleared. This is something that might not happen in 3.1, but we'll be discussing this further internally in the near future.' |
| 17:18.01 | pompy | bout time they talk about it |
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| 17:18.58 | durcyn | someone remind me to shoot myself next time i have to fsck a 4.5tb volume |
| 17:19.36 | Fisker- | old news pompy |
| 17:20.18 | Jaxon | durcyn: that'll teach you for having a 4.5TB volume. |
| 17:21.05 | Fisker- | tell me nevcairiel |
| 17:23.09 | AckisWork | hey nevcairiel thanks for telling me about the dress |
| 17:23.49 | Fisker- | you weren't told shit as you can't exploit it |
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| 17:25.48 | AckisWork | r u sure? |
| 17:26.41 | Fisker- | wyes |
| 17:26.42 | Fisker- | yes |
| 17:28.50 | Fisker- | unsuccessful troll = unsuccessful |
| 17:29.20 | Zyndrome | walks in |
| 17:29.29 | Zyndrome | hay guise wuts goinThe Ice Stone has melted! |
| 17:30.03 | Fisker- | no |
| 17:30.19 | quiescens | darn ice stone |
| 17:30.42 | durcyn | does that make it a lava puddle now, or what |
| 17:30.45 | durcyn | how does one melt stone, exactly |
| 17:30.56 | durcyn | TELL ME, Fisker- |
| 17:31.03 | CrazyBenny_ | its ice stone! |
| 17:31.38 | nevcairiel | the only reference to ice stone i could find was from ahune, the frost lord |
| 17:32.54 | Fisker- | GM's said it was from the summer festival apparently |
| 17:32.58 | Fisker- | btw nevcairiel |
| 17:32.59 | Fisker- | tell me |
| 17:33.56 | Fisker- | tell me nevcairiel |
| 17:37.39 | *** part/#wowace pompy (n=Pomp@c-71-58-3-50.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 17:38.56 | Fisker- | tell me nevcairiel |
| 17:39.35 | *** kick/#wowace [Fisker-!i=nevcairi@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/nevcairiel] by nevcairiel (No.) |
| 17:39.42 | *** join/#wowace Fisker- (i=ballmer@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 17:39.46 | Fisker- | doesn't exist etc. |
| 17:41.06 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r113 TestAlpha.lua: Blah! |
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| 17:45.03 | Fisker- | why so afraid nevcairiel ? |
| 17:45.14 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r114 TestAlpha.lua: Blah! |
| 17:45.23 | nevcairiel | I'm not afraid, i'm just enjoying it :) |
| 17:46.38 | Fisker- | nah |
| 17:46.59 | Fisker- | Because i'm enjoying you thinking it's possible to exploit it when it isn't |
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| 17:49.46 | ckknight | @ticket curseforge 1070 is now fixed |
| 17:49.47 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1070 - Generate LICENSE.txt from the CF/WowAce license. Reported by: Ackis. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 3 minutes ago. Component: Packager. Status: Fixed. Priority: Medium. Assignee: ckknight. Votes: +5. Comments: 1 |
| 17:50.05 | many | mh. |
| 17:50.18 | many | odd. |
| 17:50.38 | many | received money from auction house, without plugins: empty body. with plugins: crash. |
| 17:51.55 | many | takes a wild guess to blame fubar-mailfu |
| 17:52.34 | Gnarfoz | wtf are plugins |
| 17:52.47 | Gnarfoz | also, mailfu keeps getting more broken each patch :( |
| 17:52.58 | many | *addons ;) |
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| 17:53.57 | nevcairiel | plugs Fisker- in Gnarfoz |
| 17:54.10 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: /kick nevcairiel no. |
| 17:54.31 | nevcairiel | no work :( |
| 17:54.49 | nevcairiel | what did mailfu ever do anyway? |
| 17:54.57 | Repo | 10ora2: 03Rabbit * r653 Optional/MainTank.lua: |
| 17:55.00 | Repo | Don't set the main tank list again and refresh the header if the list of maintanks is identical to our old one. |
| 17:55.10 | Gnarfoz | display new mail bool + count on fubar |
| 17:55.20 | Gnarfoz | +tristate colored icon |
| 17:55.22 | Gnarfoz | (and text) |
| 17:55.44 | Gnarfoz | I fail at patching Broker_Mail to be as good as MailFu :( |
| 17:56.19 | Gnarfoz | clad's texcoord thingy would probably make the tristate colored icon possible again, not sure |
| 17:56.42 | nevcairiel | depends how the original image was designed |
| 17:56.51 | nevcairiel | in mailfu |
| 17:57.20 | Gnarfoz | one image, color via ... yeah whatever the api call was for that, SetVertexColor? |
| 17:57.33 | sacarasc | nevcairiel: Are you in EU? Because I just saw a Nevariel on my realm |
| 17:58.04 | Gnarfoz | anyway, MailFu still has SEE-Mail and still thinks "a buyer has been found for your auction of [thing]" means you've got new mail |
| 17:58.18 | Gnarfoz | also, it doesn't even use the "new" (lol, it's years OLD by now :P) mail API ^^ |
| 17:58.28 | Gnarfoz | so it can't display the last 3 senders |
| 17:58.35 | Gnarfoz | s/last/latest/ |
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| 18:00.29 | nevcairiel | sacarasc: i am EU, but i don't use any weird versions of my name, only the real one, or something completly different |
| 18:00.39 | Pneumatus | hmm, i wonder whats causing dovecot to crash :o |
| 18:01.37 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: create an alt called "Nêvcà Ãrèl" now, you know you want to |
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| 18:08.43 | Fisker- | so nevcairiel |
| 18:08.53 | Fisker- | getting some exploits, which don't exist, done? |
| 18:09.24 | Gnarfoz | probably not, since they don't exist! |
| 18:09.26 | quiescens | hmm |
| 18:09.28 | quiescens | undocumented change? |
| 18:09.39 | quiescens | mercurial stone is a trinket and has stam + hit |
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| 18:12.24 | NivFreak | quiescens: orly |
| 18:12.41 | quiescens | true story~ |
| 18:13.12 | NivFreak | I'll have to get mine back out of the gbank then |
| 18:13.19 | quiescens | boe +27 sta 27 hit trinket |
| 18:14.35 | PProvost | Mercurial Stone? This? mercurial stone |
| 18:14.41 | PProvost | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31080 |
| 18:14.43 | PProvost | ? |
| 18:14.57 | quiescens | yes, that mercurial stone |
| 18:15.21 | NivFreak | Fisker-: reused how? |
| 18:16.02 | PProvost | I thought I read about that somewhere... hmmm |
| 18:16.15 | quiescens | I would imagine someone else has noticed it |
| 18:16.36 | quiescens | I'm not implying I was the only one, I'm just saying it wasn't in the patch notes |
| 18:17.35 | quiescens | kind of odd they would change that all of a sudden though |
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| 18:19.36 | PProvost | It is listed in the last comment on that wowhead page. Posted yesterday. |
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| 18:23.45 | jnwhiteh | Gnarfoz: which tri-state-icon thingy? |
| 18:24.37 | Gnarfoz | jnwhiteh: MailFu's. the mail icon can be either gray (no mail pending), green (unknown or known new mail, MailFu doesn't use the newer mail API so it can't tell who mail is from), red (AH mail pending) |
| 18:24.49 | Pneumatus | confirming the Mercurial Stone is now a trinket |
| 18:25.00 | jnwhiteh | ah yeah that would be really easy with texCoords and iconR, iconG and iconB |
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| 18:26.38 | Gnarfoz | jnwhiteh: as I suspected. <3 |
| 18:26.44 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 18:27.59 | Shot | Pneumatus: what? |
| 18:28.46 | Shot | nvm, i read up |
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| 18:45.17 | Stanzilla | vhaarr: thaddius messages are still weird |
| 18:45.20 | Stanzilla | I logged the last part |
| 18:45.24 | vhaarr | I know |
| 18:45.30 | vhaarr | I just killed him this VERY second |
| 18:45.34 | Stanzilla | k :P |
| 18:45.44 | vhaarr | like, I'm not kidding |
| 18:45.50 | durcyn | i don't know, the throw timer was very handy in phase two. |
| 18:45.50 | vhaarr | same second you said it he was on 1% |
| 18:46.03 | durcyn | just in case feugen and stalagg decide to pop back up after their corpses despawn |
| 18:46.06 | Stanzilla | 19:45:07. Combat logging disabled. |
| 18:46.07 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 18:46.15 | Stanzilla | so you don't need my log, right? |
| 18:46.20 | vhaarr | durcyn: what, you got throw messages in p2? |
| 18:46.25 | durcyn | vhaarr: did last night, yes |
| 18:46.28 | vhaarr | oO |
| 18:46.31 | vhaarr | well I didn't now |
| 18:46.36 | durcyn | hrm |
| 18:46.50 | durcyn | was the current svn head of about 18 hours ago |
| 18:47.37 | NivFreak | I haven't tested it since your last changes, but the older version I had kept those timers running |
| 18:47.40 | NivFreak | I learned to ignore it ;) |
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| 18:48.36 | NeoTron | I definitely noticed that the charge warnings didn't work :-/ |
| 18:48.48 | vhaarr | ye they did not |
| 18:48.52 | vhaarr | really weird |
| 18:48.56 | vhaarr | it's annoying me now |
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| 18:49.33 | NeoTron | ironically it did warn me only once and it didn't change |
| 18:49.45 | vhaarr | hm, the module had an error though |
| 18:49.53 | vhaarr | that might have been the reason, but it shouldn't I guess |
| 18:51.14 | Repo | 10banana-dkp: 03Rabbit * r128 BananaDKP.lua: Bugfix. |
| 18:52.00 | Stanzilla | hm yeah, just saw the error |
| 18:56.08 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4969 Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: Bugfix. |
| 18:56.54 | AckisWork | vhaarr: tag? |
| 18:57.11 | vhaarr | no :P |
| 18:57.30 | AckisWork | hehe |
| 18:57.40 | Primer | hate pugs. Pugged a 25 man OS last night, my trinket dropped, and 10 people rolled |
| 18:57.46 | Primer | luckily it stayed within guild |
| 18:57.50 | Primer | but still |
| 18:58.11 | quiescens | ninjas primer's trinket |
| 18:58.38 | durcyn | obviously not your trinket if you didn't loot it. |
| 18:58.42 | NeoTron | vhaarr: I'll try next time I run naxx |
| 18:58.58 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: indeed |
| 18:59.18 | vhaarr | NeoTron: ye I'll probably do 10man later and see if that fixed it, but I really don't think it did |
| 18:59.28 | vhaarr | so I'll have to look a bit more at it after 25man |
| 19:00.01 | Pneumatus | The Ice Stone has melted c/d |
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| 19:01.14 | Repo | 10malygosflamer: 03stolenlegacy * r3 MalygosFlamer/MalygosFlamer.lua: Fixed a leftover from debug phase. |
| 19:01.15 | quiescens | the ice stone has melted |
| 19:01.17 | Repo | There should no longer be a "Debuff expired" spam when malygos dies. |
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| 19:02.08 | Gnarfoz | @project malygosflamer |
| 19:02.10 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/malygosflamer/. MalygosFlamer. Game: WoW. Status: Needs approval. stolenlegacy (Manager/Author). Updated: 53 seconds ago |
| 19:02.15 | AckisWork | http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll199/Hunterman08/WoWScrnShot_021109_114852.jpg |
| 19:03.11 | AckisWork | isn't there another addon that lets you target dargons easily for P3? |
| 19:03.44 | quiescens | ? |
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| 19:10.31 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: grid with pet layout enabled? |
| 19:10.46 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: other working unitframe mod with raid pet units enabled? |
| 19:11.01 | AckisWork | maly helper/ |
| 19:11.12 | Fisker- | is there an addon like addonspamfu? |
| 19:11.26 | AckisWork | yes Fisker- |
| 19:11.42 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: what... MalygosHelper has nothing to do with this. it's entirely a unitframe thing. |
| 19:11.44 | Repo | 10zzml: 03Turaka * r21 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 19:11.47 | Repo | * Little bugfix, so that melee works at least again properly. |
| 19:12.02 | Repo | 10zzml: 03Turaka 04v3.1 * r22 : * Tagging v3.1 |
| 19:12.25 | Fisker- | no AckisWork |
| 19:12.53 | AckisWork | Gnarfoz: never used it, was asking if it would do it for me since it mentions that it keeps track of combo points |
| 19:13.06 | Gnarfoz | yes, combo points are related to targetting :P |
| 19:13.10 | Gnarfoz | </sarcasm> |
| 19:13.24 | Gnarfoz | seriously: you just need a unitframe addon that is able to display raid pets :) |
| 19:13.52 | AckisWork | not like I do the fight ever :P |
| 19:13.54 | Gnarfoz | if it has specific magic for malygos, it will even show the name of the player instead of "Wyrmrest Skytalon" for all 25 dragons :p |
| 19:14.04 | Gnarfoz | why even ask, you ex-raider! :p |
| 19:14.24 | quiescens | Wyrmrest Skytalon #7 > other wyrmrest skytalons |
| 19:14.37 | AckisWork | I use sraidframes btw :P not sure if I can configure it that way |
| 19:14.58 | AckisWork | Gnarfoz: I have to get the achievements :( |
| 19:15.21 | Fisker- | tell me AckisWork |
| 19:15.29 | Fisker- | what do you offer your master? |
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| 19:24.15 | quiescens | the ice stone has melted |
| 19:24.28 | Kuja^ | orly? |
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| 19:31.08 | Speeddymon | anyone around that can look at a bug with the curse site itself? or is there another channel for curse? |
| 19:32.49 | Speeddymon | having issues with posting a comment at the moment if someone cares to take a look |
| 19:35.49 | Pneumatus | anyone EU having problems with people being DCd all the time in raids? |
| 19:36.09 | sacarasc | Nope |
| 19:36.17 | sacarasc | Not been in a raid since .9 though |
| 19:36.40 | CrazyBenny_ | Pneumatus: since todays patch? yep |
| 19:36.50 | Pneumatus | yeh, since today's patch :) |
| 19:36.59 | Fisker- | Anyone know what addon has Crb as addon for comm? |
| 19:37.04 | Pneumatus | Carbonite |
| 19:37.41 | Jaxon | I can't stand that addon, the questing logic is so freakin' weird. |
| 19:37.58 | Pneumatus | not to mention ALL the guild/whisper addonmessage spam it sends |
| 19:38.27 | Jaxon | Pneumatus: I think I spent more time setting it up than using it, so I didn't get into that part. Are you getting spammed by guildmates? |
| 19:39.05 | Pneumatus | carbonite constantly spams guild and any people on your friends list with addon messages until you switch it to private mode |
| 19:39.20 | Pneumatus | or solo mode |
| 19:39.22 | Pneumatus | or w/e its called |
| 19:39.35 | Pneumatus | i harassed all my guildmates using it to switch it to stfu mode |
| 19:39.44 | Pneumatus | because it sends an insane amount of addon data constantly |
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| 19:47.00 | Hirsute | I've never been able to get interested in Carbonite, the whole buy-this-addon concept doesn't sit very well with me. |
| 19:47.59 | quiescens | obviously the solution is to kick them all~! |
| 19:48.53 | Arrowmaster | put them all on ignore so they get spammed with messages that you have them on ignore (only works for people that have you on friends list) |
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| 19:53.04 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: does that work with carbonite quest or only the full thingy? |
| 19:53.23 | harl | i've got a problem with updating certain add-ons using the curseclient. it seems to start downloading the add-on and then just stops, leaving no trace in the activity log of what it did. |
| 19:53.27 | Arrowmaster | it works with anything that sends addon whispers |
| 19:53.31 | Hirsute | Does WoWMatrix still generate large amounts of traffic just checking for addon updates? |
| 19:53.38 | Arrowmaster | Hirsute: yes |
| 19:54.04 | harl | also these newly add-on versions don't show up at the curse site. |
| 19:54.26 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: Thanks, I'm in the process of trying to convince people in the raiding organization I'm in to stop using WoWMatrix, and I wanted to double check that before I posted it. |
| 19:55.02 | Pneumatus | hardly any reason to use wowmatrix now the new CC is about anyway |
| 19:55.06 | Pneumatus | seeing as the new CC is just as good |
| 19:56.49 | Xinhuan | not quite, its lacking "multi site" |
| 19:56.58 | Xinhuan | which is the main draw |
| 19:57.21 | Hirsute | ^^ |
| 19:57.43 | Hirsute | I don't think it's a justification to use it, but that's the reason most people I talk to cite for still clinging to Matrix. |
| 19:58.01 | Hirsute | That and the "keylogger problems with Curse" that I can never find anyone who can give me details about. |
| 19:58.12 | Hirsute | Wasn't Shirik working on a multi-site updater? |
| 19:59.05 | Hirsute | Or am I up in the night? |
| 19:59.56 | Torhal | I believe he's working on the WoWInterface UI manager |
| 20:00.33 | Hirsute | Torhal: Ah, okay. |
| 20:01.09 | Hirsute | ... I thought there was someone working on a Project Syndication based updater that had the potential to be site-unaware. |
| 20:01.14 | Arrowmaster | Hirsute: there is no "keylogger problems with Curse" |
| 20:01.53 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: I know, that's my point. I keep having people mention "keylogger problems with Curse", but when I ask them to give me details, they can't. It's because there aren't any, but darned if I can convince people of that. |
| 20:01.57 | Arrowmaster | gkick anybody that says otherwise because you dont want morons in your guild |
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| 20:02.06 | Hirsute | mutters something about hard-headed fools. |
| 20:02.33 | Pneumatus | incgamers is the only place with keylogger issues really |
| 20:02.39 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: It isn't people in my guild, but in other guilds in our raiding organization, so there's not much I can do about it. |
| 20:02.41 | quiescens | correlation is causation you know |
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| 20:04.25 | Arrowmaster | tell them the people you know from curse would like to hear about any credable information they might have indicating otherwise, but curse and wowinterface are the two safest sites to download addons from |
| 20:05.08 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: will do. (And I completely agree with you, just to be clear) |
| 20:06.43 | AckisWork | hello world is a key logger! |
| 20:07.24 | Hirsute | AckisWork: O noes! |
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| 20:19.45 | AckisWork | ~seen merah |
| 20:19.49 | purl | AckisWork: i haven't seen 'merah' |
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| 20:21.51 | AckisWork | ~seen mera |
| 20:21.53 | purl | mera <n=ecarlat@88.226.203-77.rev.gaoland.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #waruidev, 143d 6h 58m 8s ago, saying: 'back screen on minimize me'. |
| 20:22.41 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/malygosflamer/. MalygosFlamer. stolenlegacy (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
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| 20:32.19 | harl | cool. something's automagically solved the problem i previously described. |
| 20:32.23 | harl | thx |
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| 20:55.18 | AckisWork | http://mine.icanhascheezburger.com/view.aspx?ciid=3391239 |
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| 20:55.55 | selckin | fail |
| 20:56.12 | AckisWork | that's my dumb asses kitten |
| 20:56.19 | AckisWork | moron got himself locked in that thing |
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| 20:59.15 | ckknight | lol |
| 20:59.45 | Pneumatus | so, has anyone actually found out what this ice stone is that insists on melting every 10 mins |
| 21:00.33 | kenlyric | ahune |
| 21:00.43 | kenlyric | blizzard = bad at programming |
| 21:01.06 | syeren | ckknight, hurry up and merge Vangual's totem modes with the main branch :( |
| 21:01.17 | ckknight | yea, I need to review that |
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| 21:01.34 | syeren | From a user standpoint it's perfect, no idea about a developers :p |
| 21:01.56 | ckknight | basically, I don't want to have non-beautiful code in pitbull4 |
| 21:02.02 | ckknight | that's the idea, at least |
| 21:02.10 | fry | hey uh, aren't child frames supposed to be hidden if they move out of the bounds of the parents? Or if not, is there a way to accomplish that? Is that a special functionality of the ScrollFrame only? |
| 21:06.42 | fry | Ah okay, a property of the ScrollFrame apparently :v |
| 21:09.12 | NivFreak | Fisker-: what were you saying about the arrows being reusable? |
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| 21:09.36 | kadrahil | was he referring to ingame ammo? |
| 21:09.47 | NivFreak | the vday arrows |
| 21:09.50 | kadrahil | oh those |
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| 21:21.06 | Repo | 10autocombatlog: 03Skeggiold * r10 AutoCombatLog.toc: Updated .toc file for 3.0.9 |
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| 21:26.45 | CrazyBenny_ | nayone knows, if its possible to start custom timerbar in bigwigs with slashcommand? |
| 21:27.14 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:27.30 | vhaarr | or /bwlcb for local |
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| 21:28.11 | CrazyBenny_ | cheers |
| 21:28.30 | Primer | wtf is "The Ice Stone has melted!"? |
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| 21:30.29 | CrazyBenny_ | everytime server hamster dies, The ice stone melts |
| 21:30.38 | harl | hah.. my emotefu's been totally outdated, for 11200.. lol |
| 21:31.03 | AKX | harl, it still works, doesn't it? :P |
| 21:31.20 | harl | it's stopped with 3.0.something |
| 21:31.23 | AKX | Oh. |
| 21:31.28 | Kuja^ | ~wowalert |
| 21:31.29 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 21:31.30 | AKX | EmoteFu2 or just EmoteFu? |
| 21:31.37 | harl | just emotefu |
| 21:35.11 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4970 Northrend/Malygos.lua: Cleanups, remove Arcane Overload timers and messages. |
| 21:36.39 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: wryyyyyy |
| 21:36.53 | vhaarr | "wry"? |
| 21:36.58 | Gnarfoz | meme |
| 21:37.06 | Gnarfoz | actually I was gonna ask why you removed those timers ;) |
| 21:37.17 | vhaarr | because they're just spam |
| 21:38.03 | Gnarfoz | hm, I kind of used the timers now and then to see if it was ok to ignore one of the domes |
| 21:38.24 | Gnarfoz | and wait for the next... or if we'd be melted to bits by his breath in the mean time ^^ |
| 21:44.23 | NeoTron | isn't arcane overload the deep breath thing or is that something else? |
| 21:45.41 | durcyn | no, overload is the random target nuke |
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| 21:49.32 | vhaarr | overload is the random target nuke that creates the shields |
| 21:49.47 | vhaarr | I removed the timer until the next one |
| 21:51.23 | durcyn | oh, i must be thinking of the barrage from the scions |
| 21:52.21 | Primer | sigh, GetInstanceDifficulty() returns 2 if you zone back into the world and you have it set to heroic |
| 21:53.32 | NeoTron | ah |
| 21:53.51 | NeoTron | yeah that's pretty pointless to have a timer for I'd say |
| 21:55.40 | Fisker- | lol |
| 21:55.51 | Fisker- | someone just ninjaed a satchel of spoils from sartharion |
| 21:56.57 | NeoTron | the END of the WORLD! |
| 21:57.04 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky 04r32beta * r33 : Tagging as r32beta |
| 21:57.45 | Megalon | Fiskerding recieves loot: [Satchel of Spoils]. |
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| 21:57.52 | Megalon | s/ding/din/ |
| 21:57.54 | Megalon | :s |
| 21:59.32 | Primer | wtf, why would /dump MyAddon.db.profiles be different when inside an instance than outside? |
| 21:59.41 | harl | what's with all the empty auction house mails in my mailbox? |
| 21:59.45 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky * r34 / (2 files in 1 directory): fixed dataversion recording |
| 22:00.05 | harl | how can there be mails containing nothing at all |
| 22:00.33 | Fisker- | NeoTron that's the point :D |
| 22:00.42 | Fisker- | everyone lol'd at him ninjaing |
| 22:01.56 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky 04r34beta * r35 : Tagging as r34beta |
| 22:04.26 | harl | why is the default action bar graphics showing again for me? |
| 22:04.53 | harl | doesn't want |
| 22:05.18 | Camci | so did you guys know that the The icestone has melted??? |
| 22:05.29 | sb|work | yes |
| 22:05.35 | sb|work | global warming |
| 22:05.39 | Camci | yah |
| 22:05.46 | Camci | too many taurens farting :( |
| 22:05.49 | sb|work | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/14990463821-re-the-ice-stone-melting.html |
| 22:06.47 | Primer | ckknight: trying to figure out why my pitbull3 module shows one thing for /dump MyAddon.db.profiles when outside of an instance, and something else when inside. Any thoughts? |
| 22:07.05 | Primer | basically when inside an instance, it's empty |
| 22:07.21 | ckknight | have anything that changes your profile on zone? |
| 22:07.51 | Primer | err that's the whole point...to change the pitbull profile on zone |
| 22:08.01 | Primer | but my addon's pref namespace is its own |
| 22:08.11 | Primer | afaik...this has always worked in pre-wotlk |
| 22:09.21 | Primer | only thing I changed was to detect heroic, and append a string to the end of my array key to denote heroic raids |
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| 22:10.30 | Primer | self:SetDatabase("ProfileSwitcherDB") |
| 22:11.03 | Primer | /dump ProfileSwitcher.db.profiles |
| 22:11.28 | Primer | zone into heroic OS, do it again, and it's empty, and it does not switch the pitbull profile, since...it's empty! |
| 22:11.46 | Primer | and nothing matches |
| 22:11.51 | Primer | s/and/as/ |
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| 22:15.28 | Primer | zoning into a normal 5 man instance doesn't change it |
| 22:17.43 | NeoTron | hmm interesting |
| 22:17.56 | NeoTron | my ghoul got parried on Patchwerk - 14% in fact |
| 22:18.05 | harl | ok. found out it was macaroon causing the default action bar to show. forgot to disable it again |
| 22:18.09 | NeoTron | guess ghouls don't do the "dps from behind" thing |
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| 22:18.58 | NeoTron | and in a 2.5m long fight I use icy touch/ps 3 times. long live SS glyph |
| 22:22.05 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4971 Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: Hopefully fix the polarity scanning. |
| 22:22.23 | vhaarr | needs to test in 10man, or someone else to test for him |
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| 22:25.57 | Fisker- | would test if servers weren't shit |
| 22:26.01 | Fisker- | as they always are etc. |
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| 22:27.08 | NivFreak | hrmm |
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| 22:27.14 | NivFreak | my launcher is downloading |
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| 22:27.57 | NivFreak | I can't read what it is though |
| 22:28.02 | NivFreak | it's garbled |
| 22:28.49 | NeoTron | does "skynet" mean something to you? |
| 22:28.56 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 22:29.02 | NivFreak | seems to have been a launcher update |
| 22:31.11 | Primer | sigh, seems that GetInstanceDifficulty() always returns 2 |
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| 22:31.44 | Fisker- | my launcher isn't downlaoding :( |
| 22:32.45 | Bruners | ~fail Fisker- |
| 22:32.46 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Fisker-. I hate you because you fail. |
| 22:32.56 | CrazyBenny_ | Primer: its bugged indeed, when you enter 25men and then 10men, it still returns 25men mode, even after relog |
| 22:33.04 | CrazyBenny_ | it resets after a time |
| 22:34.39 | Pneumatus | is there any difference in using strlen(string) vs #string? |
| 22:34.48 | Primer | CrazyBenny_: you know of any other way to get if it's heroic? |
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| 22:35.34 | Greltok | Pneumatus: strlen is the old way. |
| 22:35.54 | Pneumatus | im guessing #string is more optimal because its not a function call? |
| 22:36.22 | Greltok | Probably. |
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| 22:37.58 | NeoTron | Primer: GetCurrentDungeonDifficulty |
| 22:39.04 | Greltok | Pneumatus: Reference manual doesn't indicate efficiency, but I'd wager # is the better choice. |
| 22:39.04 | Greltok | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5.5 |
| 22:39.05 | Greltok | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-string.len |
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| 22:40.24 | Primer | NeoTron: same retunr values as the other one? |
| 22:40.35 | Primer | 1 = normal/not in instance, 2 = heroic |
| 22:40.51 | Primer | wowwiki doesn't have a page for that one |
| 22:41.04 | NeoTron | 1 = normal, 2 = heroic, 3 = epic |
| 22:41.23 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r4972 Northrend/Malygos.lua: BigWigs: deDE update for Malygos |
| 22:41.33 | Primer | NeoTron: Ok, thanks |
| 22:41.40 | NeoTron | use with http://www.wowwiki.com/API_IsInInstance .. |
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| 22:45.17 | CrazyBenny_ | NeoTron: cheers, was looking for that aswell |
| 22:45.55 | NeoTron | and yeah I had the same issue with that other call. it's not accurate |
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| 22:47.21 | NivFreak | Primer: there's a UI forum thread saying that it's bugged |
| 22:47.26 | NivFreak | scrolls down |
| 22:49.12 | durcyn | "RandomMountSelect"? jesus, are mount addons the new gold display cruft :/ |
| 22:49.23 | Codayus | Yes |
| 22:49.51 | Fisker- | slaps durcyn around a bit with a large trout |
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| 22:51.28 | ckknight | hey all, the rating algorithm on curse.com has been fixed. Before it was causing some addons to have >5 rating and other oddities. |
| 22:51.31 | NivFreak | I wish they'd fix the [flyable] check |
| 22:51.53 | durcyn | ~whalecrit Fisker- |
| 22:51.53 | purl | ACTION crits Fisker- with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Fisker- dies |
| 22:53.53 | Primer | NivFreak: agreed |
| 22:54.07 | Fisker- | slaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout |
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| 22:54.46 | Mochito | sup |
| 22:54.50 | ckknight | no, Fisker- |
| 22:54.53 | ckknight | howdy, Mochito |
| 22:55.04 | Mochito | im searhing for an addon which lists all proffesions |
| 22:55.07 | Mochito | is there anything? |
| 22:55.19 | Mochito | archud f.ex. listed all portals for my mage |
| 22:55.30 | Mochito | smthn like that =/ had to use all 10bar in bt |
| 22:56.37 | Fisker- | yes ckknight |
| 22:56.38 | Fisker- | slaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:56.45 | durcyn | that wasn't archud, but you might try OPie, Mochito |
| 22:57.03 | Primer | sigh, IsInInstance() doesn't seem to work either! |
| 22:57.27 | ckknight | Mochito: f.ex. is a horrible abbreviation. |
| 22:57.29 | ckknight | so you know |
| 22:57.34 | ckknight | e.g. too good for you? |
| 22:58.05 | Mochito | ^^ my english isnt so good so, sorry for that |
| 22:58.09 | Mochito | *that |
| 22:59.10 | NivFreak | Mochito: autobar? |
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| 22:59.31 | ckknight | well, e.g. is Latin |
| 22:59.32 | ckknight | :P |
| 22:59.54 | Tuller | gratis |
| 22:59.54 | Mochito | <_< |
| 23:00.02 | ckknight | exempli gratia |
| 23:00.13 | ckknight | afaik |
| 23:00.16 | Tuller | exempli gratia |
| 23:00.26 | Tuller | latin was 5 years ago, so bah |
| 23:00.42 | Tuller | or was it 6... |
| 23:00.49 | Tuller | 6! |
| 23:01.28 | Megalon | 6!? that's a whole lotta years |
| 23:01.37 | Tuller | yes |
| 23:01.44 | Tuller | more than I took it for |
| 23:02.09 | Tuller | so out of curiosity, did anyone get a pm from bioware people? |
| 23:02.20 | ckknight | I took it in like 9th grade |
| 23:02.21 | Megalon | and you still remember things 720 years after, nice! |
| 23:02.33 | ckknight | so I was like, 14... |
| 23:02.37 | ckknight | so, 7 years ago |
| 23:02.41 | Tuller | 8th grade'd |
| 23:02.54 | Tuller | but 4 or 5 years of it |
| 23:02.57 | Mochito | let me explain properly what im searching for, so there wont be any misunderstandings :) |
| 23:03.01 | ckknight | ah, I only took one year |
| 23:03.04 | Tuller | 753 bc |
| 23:03.15 | ckknight | still, people should know "i.e." and "e.g." if they know written English |
| 23:03.24 | Mochito | i want bars or something similiar to my professions, without using the 10bars i already have |
| 23:03.29 | Mochito | *for |
| 23:03.41 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4973 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 23:03.44 | Repo | Error out when modules register invalid combat listeners and fix Loatheb not to do so. |
| 23:04.14 | durcyn | Mochito: as we already stated, try AutoBar or OPie |
| 23:05.14 | Mochito | im going to try ^^ i just wanted to make clear everybody understood me |
| 23:05.39 | Tuller | buffet? |
| 23:06.04 | Skellum | CK hows PB4 going? |
| 23:06.37 | Tuller | 4x the salmonella |
| 23:08.41 | NivFreak | I'd like to try OPie out at some point |
| 23:10.04 | Mochito | opie is a nice addon but doesnt fit my interface |
| 23:10.14 | Mochito | looks to futuristic for me ^^ |
| 23:10.32 | NivFreak | I run a pretty simple interface |
| 23:10.42 | NivFreak | I had to make sexymap less sexy looking to fit in |
| 23:12.15 | Camci | opie is awesome |
| 23:12.34 | Mochito | as mentioned really nice thing just not my taste :) |
| 23:13.04 | NivFreak | I wish I could get the icehud author to add a couple of the things I'd like |
| 23:13.10 | Tuller | opie is really pretty, and I _should_ have a use for it |
| 23:13.12 | Tuller | but I don't |
| 23:14.10 | waallen | Is anyone else's CC being updated to a corrupted version? |
| 23:16.41 | NivFreak | lol |
| 23:16.42 | dodga | I looooove OPie :D |
| 23:16.45 | NivFreak | did WWS kill the forums? |
| 23:16.57 | dodga | Only annoying thing: author updates stuff and kills your settings doing so |
| 23:17.08 | dodga | "nice, my 10 custom rings are gone" |
| 23:17.30 | End | I had that happen once |
| 23:17.48 | NivFreak | sounds like pitbull |
| 23:17.49 | durcyn | you could toss 'em in a file and copy it between versions instead of relying on savedvars |
| 23:17.49 | NivFreak | ;) |
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| 23:20.51 | NivFreak | I want my WWS subscription refunded |
| 23:20.56 | NivFreak | that prick lossendi |
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| 23:21.13 | sylvanaar | what |
| 23:21.32 | NivFreak | the forums are now gone completely |
| 23:21.38 | NivFreak | he hasn't responded in months |
| 23:21.40 | NivFreak | shit is broken as hell |
| 23:21.44 | Mochito | autobar was just what i was searching for |
| 23:21.48 | Mochito | thanks a bunch |
| 23:21.52 | NivFreak | Mochito: np |
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| 23:23.57 | ckknight | we need a new poll on wowace |
| 23:25.02 | harl | what could be the reason, that my friend's wow loads GatherMate on login but doesn't show its entry in the interface->addons thing? |
| 23:25.46 | drweird | weird. came home, sat down to a "Curse Updater Corrupt" message |
| 23:26.10 | harl | when i do the same thing here, completely removing anything gathermate, putting back in a fresh copy, loading wow, the entry is there for me. so why not for anyone else? |
| 23:26.19 | NivFreak | drweird: a couple people are reporting that |
| 23:26.48 | NivFreak | harl: any lua errors? |
| 23:27.04 | NivFreak | I use Gathermate without issues |
| 23:28.11 | drweird | niv: yeah dunno, i fired up curse again and it updated just fine. maybe it started downloading the new client before it was finished uploading to the site or something (which would be odd, im sure they just move it in place or something) |
| 23:29.02 | NivFreak | personally I just blame ckknight |
| 23:29.02 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r241 / (2 files in 1 directory): BadBoy: blacklist update |
| 23:29.17 | Kuja^ | NivFreak: heh, with that launcher update they'd removed the broken opengl option :D |
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| 23:29.29 | harl | NivFreak: i can't be a 100% sure about there being no errors, but my friend says there's nothing showing up when she logs in and she doesn't have anything like bugsack, so i'm assuming that there are no errors, right? |
| 23:29.56 | ckknight | NivFreak: no u |
| 23:30.03 | NivFreak | harl: I always end up putting in bugsack, I seem to lose errors without it |
| 23:31.14 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v2.2.1.3 * r242 : Tagging as v2.2.1.3 |
| 23:31.50 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r4974 Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: frFR Update |
| 23:36.05 | harl | NivFreak: i just remembered there's an option to enable/disable the display of lua errors in interface->help, but restarting the game with it enabled didn't bring up any errors. |
| 23:36.40 | harl | NivFreak: i feel that bugsack would be a bit overthetop for her, since the only other add-ons she's got are MobMap and Automaton. i'm not getting any errors at all and i've got a hundred more add-ons loaded (including those 3). |
| 23:37.12 | Groktar | is it possible to turn off server side keybinds/macros? |
| 23:37.35 | Groktar | and store everything locally? |
| 23:38.01 | ulic | I think I remember something about cvars for that stuff, but I'm not 100% sure. |
| 23:38.02 | harl | what's a server side keybind to you? |
| 23:47.28 | Arrowmaster | Groktar: check ui forum stickies |
| 23:47.36 | Funkeh` | Does the updater jus tplain refuse to work for anyone else, it gets to about halfway through and dies when I launch with the launcher, if I manually click the updater exe it works fine |
| 23:47.58 | Funkeh` | did it for the previous patch too |
| 23:49.55 | TradeMark | newp |
| 23:51.22 | Groktar | i found it |
| 23:51.29 | Groktar | /console synchronizeSettings 0 |
| 23:51.39 | Mochito | i need a little help with autobar, is there way to make it only show when i press for example shift? |
| 23:51.46 | Mochito | mouseover sucks =/ |
| 23:52.29 | cncfanatics1 | http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=2196469&fpage=1 oO |
| 23:52.34 | cncfanatics1 | I didn't know koreans traducted stuff |
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| 23:57.14 | Wizardling1 | Hmmm... the text in the download status of the WoW Launcher app is superimposed on the top of other text, garbling it |
| 23:57.18 | Wizardling1 | this happen to anyone else? |
| 23:57.23 | Wizardling1 | Also - anyone else find the main advert is broken? Clicking on it does nothing (still talking about the WoW Launcher app) |
| 23:57.53 | NivFreak | lol |
| 23:57.58 | NivFreak | lossendi responded to me in email |
