IRC log for #wowace on 20090209

00:07.08Ackis@wowspell 62176
00:07.15Ackis~wowspell 62176
00:07.37purlhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=62176 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=62176
00:08.34Repo10vanas-ko-s: 03xilcoy * r349 / (3 files in 1 directory): Standardized included library names.
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00:09.15Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1485 RecipeDB (3 files in 1 directory):
00:09.18RepoAdd missing LW acquire info for Windripper stuff, and remove the 3.0.8 code.
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00:14.19Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4961 / (2 files in 2 directories):
00:14.22RepoAdd a non-intrusive upgrade reminder if someone with a Big Wigs 10 revisions higher than yours is detected in your guild or group.
00:15.20Ackisvhaarr: tag?
00:15.33Ackis;)
00:15.36vhaarrtags Ackis
00:15.37vhaarryou're it!
00:15.41Ackisahh
00:15.46Ackisteabags nevcairiel
00:15.48Ackiserr tags
00:15.57AckisNeoTron: ping
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00:35.16Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 5351496 Modules/Aura/Options.lua: [+1 commit] Allow debuffs you can dispel to show on Default debuffs, mine filter.
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00:38.19Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1486 LICENSE.txt: Update license.  Fuck you wowmatrix.
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00:38.47Repo10big-wigs: 03Dessa * r4962 Extras/Version.lua: update deDE
00:38.56Ackisalert: I need someone to test something for me
00:39.15Kuja^what exactly?
00:39.15Ackiscan you commit to a closed repository?
00:39.22Kuja^oh nvm
00:39.26Ackisheh
00:40.38Kuja^closed or private is the same thing probaly?
00:41.18Ackisaye
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00:42.28Kuja^svn: Commit failed (details follow):
00:42.28Kuja^svn: Authorization failed
00:42.40Kuja^thats probaly what you expected to happen, eh?
00:43.11ShefkiAckis: Pretty sure each repo has separate configs for who can commit.
00:43.41Kuja^most probaly yes
00:44.30Kuja^since when we have a closed repo like pitbull, only the authers can commit (at least that's what i think)
00:44.47AckisKuja^: ok ty... this is very odd
00:45.13ShefkiI didn't think pitbull was closed.
00:47.01Repo10vanas-ko-s: 03xilcoy * r350 modules/PortraitContextMenu.lua: Fixed a bug in Portrait Context Menu.
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00:49.30Kuja^Shefki: it was, someone went mad (as in commit nonsense and / or with no commitmessage and ckknight retored that repo from a backup, then closed it
00:50.38ShefkiOhh yeah I remember that now.
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00:57.44Repo10fu-bar_reagent-fu: 03Ackis * r84 / (2 files in 1 directory): Make .pkgmeta ignore some files, and add a license file.
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00:59.05Repo10collectinator: 03Ackis * r73 / (2 files in 1 directory): Add ignores to the .pkgmeta and add update license.
01:00.32fewynthere was an addon that i remember that removed like all the login addon spam in chat, anyone remember what it was called?
01:00.55orionshock@project stop-the-spam
01:00.57Repoorionshock: No project found that matches 'stop-the-spam'
01:00.57orionshock?
01:01.02fewynah it was called stopthespam and it's not updated :(
01:01.23orionshockfewyn: use mods that don't make startup spam
01:01.38orionshock... find ways to make it not annoy you that they spam the chat window?
01:01.59fewynno i want it for guildies, they take the time to read gmotd
01:02.19fewynso most of them didn't know we where going to take a stab at sapph and kt tonight in 25 man
01:02.36fewynand it's making me want to kill people
01:03.09fewynso we're missing 10 people
01:03.10orionshock...
01:03.15fewynand i want to kill
01:03.17fewynreally bad
01:03.26orionshockthat's a id10t error your not gonna be fixing
01:03.45fewyni know, but i know for a fact i have a ton of spam when i login to my chat window
01:03.52fewynbut i set the gmotd too
01:03.55fewynso i don't have to read it
01:04.16orionshockeh, if people are not smart enough to open the guild window and read the MOTD, they deserve the /gkick
01:04.34fewynmeh most of them are real g ood dps and do well in raids
01:04.43fewynjust missing gmotd is making me want to kill them all
01:04.45fewynright now
01:05.00orionshockthen they need to pull their head out of their ass and open the gtab and read the fking MOTD
01:05.48fewynthat's something i'm trying to shovel down their throats right now
01:06.00orionshockgkick one of them..
01:06.07orionshockmaybe they get the message :)
01:06.10fewyni'm not that mean
01:06.13Repo10alttab: 03Ackis * r53 / (3 files in 1 directory): Add ignores to the .pkgmeta and add update license.
01:06.14fewyni like my guildies
01:06.38orionshocksuffer and die then
01:06.44fewyni know :(
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01:08.09Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1487 AckisRecipeList.toc: ToC update.
01:09.26Repo10pitbull_profile-switcher: 03Barfolomeu 04v0.0.3 * r10 : Tagging as v0.0.3.
01:10.11Repo10collectinator: 03Ackis * r74 Collectinator.toc: ToC update.
01:11.10Repo10querier: 03Ackis * r73 / (3 files in 1 directory): ToC update, license update and .pkgmeta update.
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01:25.38Repo10alttab: 03Ackis * r54 AltTabber.toc: More maintenance updates.
01:26.50Repo10collectinator: 03Ackis * r75 Collectinator.toc: More maintenance updates.
01:27.02Repo10ihml: 03Ackis * r163 / (2 files in 1 directory): More maintenance updates.
01:28.12Repo10querier: 03Ackis * r74 Querier.toc: More maintenance updates.
01:28.19Repo10fu-bar_reagent-fu: 03Ackis * r85 / (2 files in 1 directory): More maintenance updates.
01:28.31Ackishi
01:28.45ShefkiSpammer. :P
01:29.22AckisShefki: check out those two arl tickets you made :P
01:31.50ShefkiThat's weird.
01:32.06ShefkiBut I definately don't have the flying machine recipes learned but it's not showing as one I should have.
01:33.10Ackisalliance or horde?
01:33.17Shefkialliance
01:33.59Ackisis it printing out an error message saying missing recipe or soemthing? or recipe not in database?
01:34.13ShefkiNo errors.
01:34.27ShefkiI just don't have them learned and I noticed they weren't showing as ones I should pickup.
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01:40.30ShefkiAs far as the lockup... Just let me know what you want me to try.
01:42.25AckisShefki: reset your filters nad try again for the recipe please... going afk for a bit now
01:43.31ShefkiAckis: Nope same. :(
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02:12.39Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r149 / (4 files in 4 directories): -- Powerful Rejuvenation Potion
02:12.42Repo-- More quest items
02:31.01Speeddymonanyone alive?
02:33.03Speeddymonok mods, when one of you sees this, plz check http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/easylistlib/repositories/mainline/ .. there's no repo listed there .. is this an unapproved project or something else?
02:35.26BrunersDevelopment stage:  Planning
02:40.56Repo10trickortreat: 03falconindy 07master * ecc59b1 Core.lua: [+1 commit] Changed when damage counters reset to avoid issues when Rogue cancels Tricks
02:42.25Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r150 / (3 files in 3 directories): -- Daily quest items scholozar
02:44.10Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r151 / (3 files in 3 directories): -- Sort hearthstone to top of hearth list
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03:14.57taledenis there any external libdatabroker I should optdep?  or is it like libstub/cbh that i'll always embed anyway?
03:15.19Torhaltaleden: Always embed.
03:15.48Greltokpastamancer: ping
03:15.59Zhinjioevening, folks.
03:16.08TorhalYo, Zhinjio
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03:20.24Zhinjiohow's everyone doing tonight?
03:24.24TorhalZhinjio: Feh. Mucking with Revelation. You?
03:28.35Zhinjiorelaxing after a long day with the bebe
03:28.43Zhinjioprobably going to bed early, at this rate
03:29.37Brunersanyone teste oUF_Swing ?
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03:55.08Groktaraurahud renamed auracle?
03:55.29taledenaye
03:55.45taledenthere was already a mod called BuffHUD which is totally unrelated
03:55.52taledenand HUD has particular connotations for WoW addons, which auracle is not
03:56.47Groktaryeah, i did think the name was kinda odd
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03:57.06Groktarjust kinda creeped me out to see the addon name in curse client
03:57.20taledenheh, why's that?
03:57.33Groktarbecause i'd never installed anything named auracle :)
03:57.52taledenoh, it picked up the change?  neato
03:57.59taledeni woulda thought it'd see it as a separate addon
04:01.09Brunershttp://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77
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04:05.26TorhalXinhuan: ping
04:08.12Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r748 / (2 files in 1 directory): -- Fix drag setting.
04:10.32Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 2da9a9d ModuleHandling/BarModule.lua: [+1 commit] Fix error when using custom color with Experience bar and you have
04:13.57Groktarnumber of trackers in row option is gone :(
04:14.15Groktarooh, here it is
04:19.47taledenit's just hiding at the bottom
04:19.52taledeni wish i could make window config tabbed like trackers
04:20.25orionshockhow do i convert RBG to hex?
04:21.04taledenrgb like integers?  1..255?
04:21.50Groktari don't understand the question
04:22.08orionshock<PROTECTED>
04:22.10orionshock:)
04:22.25Repo10revelation: 03Torhal * r65 Revelation.lua:
04:22.28RepoReplaced long list of amounts with an editbox stating 1 - numAvailable.
04:22.33Groktarhrm
04:23.04taledenmultiple each by 256
04:23.13taledenthen type into calc and convert to hex
04:23.16Torhal255
04:23.31taledeni suppose
04:23.33TorhalAnd to make it easier: http://www.telacommunications.com/nutshell/rgbform.htm
04:23.40Shefkiorionshock: What are you trying to do?
04:24.08Torhalorionshock: But normally, it'd be: r*255, g*255, b*255
04:24.08orionshockget a hex color code for a text string
04:24.15orionshockhttp://www.javascripter.net/faq/rgbtohex.htm
04:24.19orionshock:) thx all
04:25.01Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r163 / (7 files in 1 directory): - added csv format
04:26.04Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.2.19 * r164 : Tagging as 2.2.19
04:35.47linear`format("|cff%02x%02x%02x|r",255*r,255*g,255*b)
04:36.30linear`easy to do with format
04:47.15quiescens1+1=3
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04:59.39Brunersorionshock: http://paste.wowace.com/268/
05:00.26Groktarhexes Bruners
05:01.04Groktarcasts flame shock and begins to cast lava burst while his three arcane mage friends begin to cast arcane barrage
05:01.39quiescensarcane barrage is instant!
05:02.11GroktarBruners will die even faster then
05:02.37Groktari saw a double arcane mage team in 2v2 the other day
05:02.58Groktar"wow, two arcane mage?"
05:03.02Groktarsplat
05:04.31robotuschyeah, they tend to do that to you
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05:32.21Groktarwoot
05:32.22Groktari just looked in my mailbox and found a favor of the dragon queen waiting for me
05:33.52AeyanThat's a best-in-slot at the moment, isn't it?
05:34.25Groktarlooks like it
05:34.33AeyanGood times
05:34.39Groktari went slot by slot looking for items with crit, no int, and no resil
05:34.43Groktardidn't see anything better
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05:39.08taledenis there anything like acegui-sharedmediawidgets for icons?
05:47.55Repo10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r60 Core.lua: Fixed state saving
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05:53.03ckknightlol: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1234158419716.jpg
05:55.38orionshockso this is a bad idea for some reason... /dump LibStub("LibPeriodicTable-3.1")
05:55.40orionshock>.>
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05:58.56orionshockcan spellID's be negative?
05:59.05ShefkiDon't think so.
05:59.11orionshockhow bout item id's?
05:59.17ShefkiNope.
05:59.26orionshockcreepy
05:59.38ShefkiWhy is that creepy?
06:00.02orionshockwell in LPT-3.1 for the TradeSkillLevels module, some of the ID's are negitive
06:00.29Arrowmasterthose are special thing, tradeskill links i think
06:00.31Shefkienchant ids can be  negative.
06:00.41ShefkiAnd some trade skills make enchants.
06:02.01orionshockall the enchanting ID's i have are positive >.>
06:02.27quiescensthere are some negative things
06:02.34quiescensthey were fairly specific though
06:02.38orionshockcan anyone name one?
06:04.06orionshockinfact all the id's in LibTradeLinks are positive... there is an inconsistency here...
06:05.36orionshockwhere is elkano when you need to talk to him >.>
06:05.42Arrowmasterthe suffixid and uniqueid in an itemlink can be negative
06:05.45Arrowmasterthose are the only things
06:05.53ShefkiLooks to me like they're using - to imply it's a spell.
06:05.54Zhinjioorionshock: I told you that change in socd reverted, right?
06:05.57ShefkiAnd + implies it's an item.
06:06.04Zhinjiothe quest with the space at the end
06:06.23orionshockZhinjio: ya
06:06.25Zhinjiok
06:06.37Shefkiorionshock: Yeah - ids are spell ids, + are item ids in TradeSkillLevels
06:06.38orionshockthe localizations need to be touched Zhinjio
06:06.48Zhinjionods. I suspected thats what it was
06:07.23orionshockShefki: whas that written somwhere i missed?
06:07.39Shefkiorionshock: Beats me, but I can tell you by looking at the Inscription stuff it's true.
06:07.41Arrowmasteryes
06:09.27orionshockso i'll have to convert suff to negivies first then play with strings...
06:09.28orionshockgreat
06:14.23taledenanyone know a good example of an icon selection widget for aceconfig?
06:14.38taledensomething along the lines of acegui-sharedmediawidgets?
06:16.03linear`you could just put the icon in a string
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06:16.21taledenthat's what I have now, and also had for borders and backgrounds
06:16.36taledenI replaced those selectors with the sharedmediawidgets dropdowns which are much nicer, was hoping for something graphical for icons too
06:18.31linear`you probably have to make your own
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06:49.22Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 2f5468d Modules/ReputationBar/ReputationBar.lua: [+1 commit] Fix ticket 92 - Reputation Bar Text is 'stuck'
06:49.28Repo10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r7 Options.lua: Fixed ticket #3
06:50.33Repo10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r8 Core.lua: Fixed ticket #2
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07:27.18orionshockI Am going to hurt someone...
07:27.46ShefkiWhy?
07:28.27orionshockit dosn't matter if it's enchanting or blacksmithing.. "Enchant LINK" & the spell ID from that enchant link needs to be treated the exact same FKING way in pt3 ....
07:28.30orionshock>.>
07:28.58orionshockim gonna go have a smoke then think about this again...
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07:41.13Elkanoorionshock, what?
07:42.10orionshocknothing...
07:42.17orionshockjust figuring it out...
07:43.09orionshockpt3's TradeskillLevels is just inconsistant in how it was built... and im finding that out now...
07:43.16orionshock& it's useless.
07:43.20orionshockto me atleast
07:43.37Elkanowell, I'm one of the main PT3 maintainers, that's why I ask... seems like I missed the initial part of your monologue
07:43.48sb|workmorning
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07:44.11orionshockElkano: for TradeskillLevels, it uses the spell id's for enchanting but uses item id's for just about everything else
07:44.26orionshock& that's probably fine as it was probably intended.
07:45.07orionshockwhat i need is for all of it to use the spell id's for all the professions, as i don't have the item id's for the other stuff.
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07:48.17Elkanoorionshock, it's the other way around ^^ it uses itemids whereever possible but for enchants and engravings, there are no itemids. You'll notice that the enchanting rods are stored with itemid, too.
07:49.05orionshockfor enchanting that's fine, but i for like tailoring and blacksmithing.. i don't have the item id's
07:49.12orionshocki only have the creating spell id
07:49.33Elkanoso you need a craftspell -> itemid table... hmmm
07:49.44orionshockie = the lib has this:  http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29201  -- i need http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=34979
07:53.41Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r4963 Extras/Version.lua: koKR Update
07:53.57orionshockElkano: no, i need a data set that uses spell id's
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07:55.57Elkanoorionshock, I think you could use Tradeskill.RecipeLinks to convert from spellid to itemid
07:57.04orionshockshooting myself sounds better tbh...
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08:02.55Speeddymonsigh anyone home?
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08:17.34Elkano~seen nymbia
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08:19.25TorhalAnyone here have a Scribe that can use Vellum?
08:19.51Zhinjiolike, put an enchant on weapon/armor vellum?
08:19.56TorhalAye
08:20.13Zhinjiowell, I have a scribe that can make 'em, and an enchanter that can do the rest
08:20.20ZhinjioI've never tried it before, tho
08:20.30mitch0?? toc
08:20.45TorhalOk...had someone say Revelation didn't work with them, but I don't know in what context.
08:21.15Torhalmitch0: Eh?
08:25.15RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/acherus/. Acherus. kollektiv (Manager/Author), Ategia (Translator). Approved by Nevcairiel.
08:25.20RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/hitsmode5/. HitsMode5. Allara (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
08:25.33Zhinjiohits mode is still alive?
08:25.35Zhinjiowhy?
08:29.01Repo10range-display: 03mitch0 * r211 RangeDisplay.toc: repackaging with updated libs
08:29.41mitch0could someone try RangeDisplay r211 alpha before I tag it as release? :)
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08:33.08Torhalmitch0: I will.
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08:35.23mitch0thanks
08:38.31Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * fa9e0d9 ModuleHandling/IndicatorModule.lua: [+1 commit] Fix ticket 181: Indicators on Party Frames Stuck After Config Mode.
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08:39.16Torhalmitch0: Targeted an auctioneer, display shows like it usually does.
08:39.22mitch0thanks
08:39.25Torhalnp
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08:41.56RepoAdded LibStub, CallbackHandler-1.0, AceDB-3.0, AceConfig-3.0
08:42.53Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth 04r748 beta * r749 : Tagging as r748 beta
08:45.09Repo10revelation: 03Torhal * r67 / (3 files in 2 directories):
08:45.12RepoAdded configuration options for primary and secondary modifier keys as well as which mouse button will display the menu.
08:45.15RepoAdded LDB launcher for config panel.
08:45.18RepoEmbedded LibDataBroker-1.1
08:45.21RepoNew phrases for configuration need to be localized.
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08:56.53Repo- don't make verbose frame clickable, that's a recipe for lots of misclicks
08:56.56Repo- add an option to only show verbose mode in combat
08:56.59Repo- clean up some config options, make display updates consistent
08:57.02Repo- remove a bunch of debugging stuff
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09:07.53NivFreakhehe, 6 pulls to get 10man s3d
09:08.01NivFreakit's not really that much harder
09:08.18NivFreakit just seems you get can get screwed by RNG a bit more
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09:10.38TorhalXinhuan: Auctionator's modified click hook sucks ass. It doesn't matter how Revelation is configured - it still stops working after opening the AH window.
09:11.39theoddone33so guildies offered me a total of 15k gold to make an old mod work
09:11.50theoddone33all I had to do was change the Interface number
09:11.52theoddone33.... !
09:11.57jnwhitehhahaha
09:12.02jnwhitehwhat mod?
09:12.07theoddone33piratespeak
09:12.15jnwhitehhaha
09:12.27Torhaltheoddone33: Don't ever tell them about the load out of default addons checkbox :)
09:12.38Torhal<PROTECTED>
09:12.42theoddone33naw it was a 1.0 mod so it still wouldn't work
09:12.46theoddone33had toa ctually change it
09:12.53TorhalAh
09:13.00TorhalStill. That's pretty damn funny.
09:14.20theoddone33will be interesting to see if they pay
09:15.09winkillerlol
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09:36.33SkellumHows PB4 comin?
09:36.37SkellumRaid viable really?
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09:41.32StanzillaSkellum: has no raidframes yet
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10:06.28ShefkiSkellum: It's coming but still missing a number of features from PB3.
10:07.17ZhinjioShefki: what are the odds you can make DK runes a priority?
10:08.38ShefkiZhinjio: Not terribly high, because they need some core changes.
10:08.57Shefkickknight had a plan to do the changes but hasn't gotten to it yet.
10:09.42Zhinjionods.
10:09.45Zhinjioroger dodger.
10:09.51ShefkiI'm probably going to do VisualHeal as soon as I'm done with Aura.
10:10.25ShefkiAll Aura really needs is frame highlighting.
10:11.05ShefkiWhich I've been avoiding adding becuase there was some discussion about making a frame highlighting functionality built into the core so that multiple modules could do it without stomping on each other.
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10:31.32TorhalZhinjio: ckknight will probably get to that after he's done scoring with chicks.
10:31.36Grumoctopus merges look funsies in gitk :)
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10:35.50WraithanToday's XKCD is a real problem. I have encountered it many times!
10:35.56XinhuanTorhal: that's because Auctionator's hook is only applied when you open the AH window, and its a pre-hook
10:37.03TorhalXinhuan: Ah.
10:37.05Xinhuana possible solution, without trying to mess with Auctionator, is to hook auctionator's hook
10:37.17TorhalEww.
10:37.23Xinhuanthat is, hook his hook, and check if the AH window is open
10:37.33Xinhuanif it is, pass the function call to it
10:37.36Xinhuanelse activate yours
10:37.38Torhalnods.
10:38.06Xinhuanor you can contact the author
10:38.30Xinhuanand get him to pass the function call, if the user isn't at the AH (AH window open)
10:38.31evlI wish there was a mod which was a cross between the functionality of auctioneer suite and something like auction lite
10:38.49Xinhuanyou can look at the code, right now, its just eating all Alt-clicks, without passing them
10:38.56Xinhuanwhether you are at AH or not
10:39.12TorhalI think that would be the optimal solution. I don't think I should check for every pre-hooking addon that doesn't behave well.
10:39.38Xinhuanwell every prehooking addon CAN and WILL break yours
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10:39.50MikkTorhal: /join #norganna
10:39.52Xinhuanso you either contact them one by one, or hook their hook one by one ;p
10:39.56Grumevl: it would be nice if auctioneer was just modulair enough to turn of certain parts
10:40.02evlidd
10:40.05XinhuanMikk: i'm talking about Auctionator, not Auctioneer
10:40.09Mikkoups
10:40.20MikkGrum: and auctioneer is very very modular
10:40.21XinhuanAuctionator is a small addon, barely 100k
10:40.25Grumwhat i hate most about auctioneer is the fact i have to use 2-3 screens to post stuff on the AH
10:40.29GrumMikk: it is not
10:40.42evlGrum: but I mean it *works*, last week I sat up a disenchant search and now I'm making 3-400g per day just disenchanting crap and selling the mats back
10:40.51Xinhuani recommended auctionator to my guildies, they all switched to it from auctioneer
10:40.59Xinhuansimply because auctionator is that much more intuitive
10:41.06Grumi use appraiser to quickly get all the itemprices but then have to go back to their 'easy-post-tab' to get stuff undercut with 1c ... its just annoying
10:41.15MikkEh? Appraiser can do that too
10:41.18MikkJust config it to do so
10:41.22Grumundercut with 1c?
10:41.23Grumit cant
10:41.28MikkOkay if you say so
10:41.28evlsure it can
10:41.34Xinhuanhere mikk: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8902-Auctionator.html
10:41.34Grumi want both start and end price undercut with 1c
10:41.36evlit's just finding options in there isn't exactly easy
10:41.45Grumno it cant; verified with the authors
10:42.05Grumthe problem with the appraiser window is that it will only undercut the 'lowest buyout item'
10:42.13Grumbut i need the min-bid below the lowest min-bid
10:42.18Xinhuanits pretty simple, and all it does is perform an AH search on the item you drag, and undercut by a configurable amount based on the price being undercut
10:42.25Grumand that is not always the 'lowest buyout item'
10:42.30evlSure auctionator/auctionlite and auctionmaster can figure out what price you should post stuff on AH on but analyzing the market and giving you best buys is where auctioneer shines
10:42.41Xinhuanand you can choose which row of prices to undercut
10:42.46Mikkyah, if all you want is undercutting, gogo auctionator
10:42.57Mikki don't even undercut myself
10:43.01Mikki'd kill my own markets
10:43.03Xinhuanthe simplicity of it is just awesome, especially for items with large demands/supplies
10:43.09Xinhuansuch as ore, herbs, gems, glyphs
10:43.12evlreselling is risky business
10:43.23Mikkof course, you have to know your own market
10:43.24Xinhuanyou don't resell ore, herbs, gems, glpyhs
10:43.28Xinhuanyou always undercut
10:43.43Grumyou never sell ore/herbs/raw gems ;)
10:43.50evlOh well, I make so much money disenchanting green crap I can't really figure out why I should spend time doing anything else
10:44.04Mikkevl: indeed, wrath is totally silly that way
10:44.13Xinhuanwell yes, but in the context of say a miner, there's no reason for him not to undercut ore
10:44.18evlpeople post a green on AH for 4g and the mats sell for 20g, gg!
10:44.19Grumyeah
10:44.35Grumevl: any green lvl75+ is 50g+ on the AH atm O.o
10:44.40evlyeah, silly
10:44.54evlbut yes, i still need auctioneer to figure that bit out
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10:45.14evlor I could do it manually but "purchase all" + spam-click = profits
10:45.43Grumthen again; eternal earthx2 makes a lvl77 ring
10:45.53WraithanXinhuan: I like it when miners undercut by a lot... means I can make crap and DE it for mats
10:45.58Grumenjoy dissing profits
10:46.01Wraithanthen sell it :D
10:46.32Grumwhat do you make from it?
10:46.47Grumit used to be cobalt ore into '4bar lvl75+ item'
10:46.53Grumbut they changed the mats of that
10:47.11Wraithantrade secrets my man, sorry
10:47.14Grumits quite funny how the prices of dust are going up again and the essences dropping to ~15g
10:47.21Grumtrade secrets? sigh
10:47.28Grumi can just find out by doing a wowhead search ><
10:47.32evlhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=58145
10:48.19GrumLegplates of Conquest for very very cheap dreamshards
10:48.38Repo10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles * r102 InventoryOnPar.lua: InventoryOnPar: -
10:48.41Repoavoid stomping on GameTooltip:GetItem code
10:49.25WraithanI need to raise up my JCer... so much money not being made =(
10:49.53evlWraithan: I switched to JC from LW this saturday, about 5-700g or so
10:50.27evlWTB MSBT profile a la non-spammy
10:50.29winkillerI'd have to level my pally to 65 to benefit
10:50.42winkillerstuck at lvl 60 / 300 skill I think
10:50.46Grumand Horned Cobalt Helm for cheap disenchant crap (8 cobalt bars for a lvl75 item)
10:50.56Grumbut that stuff used to be twice as good to make (half the bars needed)
10:51.23Grumquite funny; there are no green items from saronite :)
10:51.24Wraithanwinkiller: same, my JC alt is only 61, keep meaning to level  him =(
10:51.43Grumdragon's eyes have crashed in price anyhow :)
10:51.52Grumthey are around 150g orso
10:52.16WraithanInstead I am farming rep on my main so I can get some rep gear to help out my my gear sets
10:52.19XinhuanTorhal, i've posted on both his Curse and WoWI comments
10:52.50WraithanI am a Elemental/Enhancement/Restoration shaman... depending on what I feel like playing or the group needs
10:53.01WraithanRaid gear is all resto unfortionately
10:54.21Mikkhas liek full t7.5 tank/kitty/resto/boomkek
10:54.45MikkBring on 3.1? oO
10:54.57Xinhuanthere's only 3 sets, not 4 ;p
10:55.18WraithanXinhuan: Same set twice to gem/enchant it differently
10:55.21Mikkok fine.. replace t7.5 with "ilvl 213"
10:56.05Xinhuanblame vanquisher drop rate
10:56.05Xinhuanlolol
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10:56.12WraithanWe have some folks who are starting to get offset in some slots that got the same piece of feral gear to enchant/gem for dps or tanking whichever they are not
10:56.27TorhalXinhuan: Ah, thankye.
10:56.35Grummy offset spec is better than my mainspec :'(
10:56.51WraithanGrum: same, I main dps... but they need me healing most nights
10:57.00sacarascI got a pair of gloves for offspec, but that's it
10:57.02Grumi never heal but my healing spec is sortof awesome ^^
10:57.26Stanzillasame
10:57.30WraithanI didn't start going elemental until I had a near full set of resto gear and found I could do the same dps or more in my resto gear spec'd elemental than my enhancement gear
10:57.36Wraithanwhile farming and in 5mans that is
10:57.44Wraithanwhen hit rating doesn't matter as much
10:57.53Grumyeah lol
10:58.16Grumi had my healing gear on at the first sart10+3 and was wondering why on earth all my mindflays were chain-missing :P
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10:58.32Grumbut it did awesome dmg when it did hit =)
10:58.36Wraithanlol
10:58.39Stanzillafail
10:58.39WraithanYeah exactly
10:58.44karkorhi guys
10:58.56Grumcan you even do sart with a warrior or paladin main-tank?
10:58.58karkori have a little question
10:59.06Grumi only heard of DK's and bears tanking
10:59.13Grumi have a little answer
10:59.15WraithanWe warrior tank it all the time
10:59.19MikkGrum: 25man with smart healers coupled with good use of cooldowns
10:59.33Grumyeah but 10m+3 drakes .. warriors make it sortof impossible?
10:59.36karkoris there updater for omen?
10:59.41Grum'updater' ?
10:59.51Grum@project omen
10:59.52RepoGrum: http://www.wowace.com/projects/omen-threat-meter/. Omen Threat Meter. Game: WoW. Xinhuan (Manager/Author), Nevcairiel (Author), anmoch (Author), Antiarc (Author). Updated: 31 days ago. Tickets: 1/20
11:00.02WraithanCurse Client will update it
11:00.05Grumclicky! and go to files and update ^^
11:00.16karkorcool thx guys :)
11:00.21Grumwe did it for the very first time with a bear-tank
11:00.27Grumbut we needed to do lots of tricks to make that work
11:00.39WraithanWe did it for the first time with a DK tank, but we have done it with a warrior tank
11:00.39Grumdecking him in 53k hp .. shielding, hand of sacrifice etc
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11:00.52Grum10m+3 drakes Wraithan?
11:00.59Wraithanyeah
11:01.03Grumthe tank got 46k breaths there o.O
11:01.17Grumwarriors just don't have the stamina for that
11:02.05Grum46k breaths is kinda stupid as well though :)
11:02.39p4avedmakes life interesting and it means that blizz is comfortable with bosses hitting for more than a tanks hp pool
11:02.49p4aveduldar will b fun
11:03.47Grumtbh seeing a tank in frostres gear with only stam gems ... that is not intresting :)
11:04.06Grumthe only way to take a 46k breath is with a priestshield+pot
11:04.18Grum(or laststand/shieldwall equivalents)
11:04.21p4avedshield wall
11:04.30p4avedguradian spirit
11:04.34p4avedhand of sacrifice
11:04.42Grumdoesnt work on druids :(
11:04.50p4avedguardian spirit works
11:04.52Grumand HoS is ok but that means 13k dmg on the pally taking that hit
11:04.57GrumGS is bugged on bears afaik
11:05.02p4avedpally bubbles than had of sacrifice
11:05.19Grumif that pally is healing he prolly cant waste 3s of GCD :)
11:05.32p4avedours do it alright
11:05.33Grumas there will be 2 drakes /bonking the tank
11:05.43Grumhow many healers do you take to 10m+3?
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11:06.06p4aveddepends on the specific healers 2 or 3
11:06.33Grumi cant imagine doing that fight with 3 healers .. or you need to have stupidly good dps :D
11:06.43Grumall frostfire-one-button-mages
11:14.01Mikklies you have to scorch once in a while too
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11:18.10Repo10librangecheck-2-0: 03mitch0 04v3.2 * r50 : Tagging as v3.2
11:18.57Mikklibrangecheck 2.0 3.2?
11:21.03WraithanVersion 3.2 of the second iteration of the lib?
11:22.50mitch0exactly ;)
11:24.23Wraithan<- is fluent in non-sense, my girlfriend has a 2 year old.
11:24.51mitch0it's not non-sense
11:25.00mitch0:P
11:25.05StanzillaInner Fire duration has been increased to 30 minutes and can no longer dispelled.
11:25.08Stanzillagod finally
11:25.12Stanzilladances
11:25.19Stanzillawith Grum
11:25.23WraithanCan no longer be dispelled.. wtf.
11:25.31Wraithanhate that crap
11:27.27tlund[Ammo]: is oRA3 in a state where it is usable for raiding? should i start using it (to report bugs) or stick with oRA2?
11:27.59Stanzillaora3 only has readychecks and a empty options menu^^
11:29.03Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 3ed324f Options/LayoutEditor.lua: [+1 commit] Fix tickets 121 and 129 - errors creating new elements in a new layout
11:31.03tlundStanzilla: oh.
11:32.10Mikkmethinks ora3 is going to be another one of those concepts whose ideas then get refactored into the previous version
11:32.41Mikkthen again i dont even use ora myself anymore
11:32.44StanzillaI hope not
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11:46.46Fisker-drives a pike through Stanzilla
11:47.00StanzillaFisker-: watch and laugh http://leo.lss.com.au/W7E_VID_DRA/W7E_VID_DRA.htm
11:54.25Fisker-old Stanzilla
11:54.54StanzillaFisker-: from today :(
11:56.09Fisker-of course but old exploit is old
11:56.32Stanzillanah
11:56.35Stanzilla"I successfully made a second proof-of-concept which can elevate any program or command, without a UAC prompt, on a Windows 7 beta (build 7000) machine with default settings, without using the SendKeys or RunDll32 tricks." < new
11:58.06Fisker-that's not really new either
11:58.17Fisker-he found another road to take
11:58.19Fisker-hooray for that
11:58.26Fisker-still doesn't change the premise of the exploit
11:58.34Stanzilla:)
11:59.18Fisker-lol
11:59.22Fisker-you can kill a lightwell
11:59.24Fisker-and it has a lootbox
11:59.30Fisker-disappeared before i could loot though :E
12:00.30Speeddymonanyone know if there's some way to introduce some sort of a delay in your code to allow for server synching?
12:00.52Speeddymonkinda like a sleep function..
12:02.19Speeddymonsigh
12:02.59evlHOLY NERFBAT
12:03.06Speeddymon?
12:03.18evl3.0.9 changes on mmo-champion
12:03.21Stanzillarogue pvp nerf :P
12:03.25evlmega nerf :(
12:03.33Speeddymonwtf? rogues are already so weak in pvp..
12:03.40Stanzillano?
12:03.42Speeddymonlink
12:03.48evlI don't PVP
12:03.49Stanzillahttp://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=38466.0
12:03.53evlbut these are serious PVE nerfs
12:04.18Stanzillamutilate in pve?
12:04.42Speeddymonholy fuck!
12:04.49Speeddymonmuti IS pve
12:04.54evlmutilate is PVE yes
12:04.57Speeddymonholy god damn
12:04.58evland now it's gotten nerfed to hell and back
12:05.00Speeddymonim fucked
12:05.04evlI have no combat weapons :(
12:05.08Speeddymonme either
12:05.24Speeddymonoh fucking wow
12:05.30Speeddymonshamans get a glyph nerfed
12:05.32Speeddymonthats it
12:05.44Speeddymonthey do like 2.3k dps at 80
12:05.46Speeddymonwell
12:05.47evlProbably not so bad but I'd expect a combat nerf
12:05.48Speeddymonlike 1800
12:06.05Speeddymonim so screwed! qq
12:06.05evlI mean they get +10% haste and no downside
12:06.40Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r229 modules/AltNames.lua: drycoded tweaks to the static pupup code to address #94
12:07.52Speeddymonwell.. im gonna start levelling my shaman then
12:08.07StanzillaSlow (Arcane): now increases cast time by 30%, down from 60%. <- <3
12:08.22evlall slows got cast time nerfs
12:08.51Stanzillayeah..
12:09.07evlnice that ferocious bite gets buffed, it was so bad before
12:09.21evloh wait, reality's ferocious bite  crits you for 14000
12:09.51Stanzillathe inner fire change is the best
12:14.46evlSpeeddymon: It's actually a buff if you do the maths
12:15.15evlSpeeddymon: +6% to ALL damage from HfB buff ~-4% nerf from mutilate damage (-20% of 20% damage)
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12:28.00RepoFixed click hooks for taking attachments from mails. Will have to click multiple times on mails that have multiple items until I can figure out a way to work around lag..
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12:33.41Repo- zhCN/zhTW update.
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13:57.45sb|workevl: uhm? combat dps is too low at the moment
13:58.01sb|workcompared to other classes
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14:00.36RepoAdd talent position and prerequisite information to spelldata.
14:00.39RepoUpdate most of the code that use Talented_Data for this information to
14:00.42Repouse spelldata instead.
14:00.45RepoOnly the stuff from GetTalentTabInfo() now is missing from Talented to
14:01.12Repo10talented: 03jerry * r385 Talented.toc: Update Talented version number
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14:30.45mitch0damn I hate windows...
14:33.00Megalonbut they enable you to see through walls
14:33.08Megalonjust like x-ray, but better!
14:33.38mitch0not speaking of those ;)
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14:34.49Megalon<;
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14:34.49mitch0although, I guess I'm at fault for trying to backup my homedir using the default explorer copy-waste thing
14:35.00Megalon:S
14:35.52mitch0but still, whoever thought that aborting the whole operation without really telling where it stopped if a single file could not be copied was an arse...
14:35.58glyphI believe I've discovered a bug in AutoBar.  I have two identical WoW installs; one is running under Cedega, one is running under Windows.  On Windows, AutoBar works fine.  On Linux, AutoBar works fine but for some reason doesn't think I have any quest items.
14:36.13glyphNo errors are logged in either case (I'm using BugSack as well)
14:36.54glyphIs there somewhere I should be reporting this, or some file I should upload?  I have no idea how to provide more diagnostic information than "it doesn't work".
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14:42.09SunTsuglyph: Just open a ticket on AutoBar's project page. Maybe it's something filesystem case related, I am experiencing the same thing under FreeBSD/Wine, but mostly with northrend quest items.
14:43.25Vangualcould maybe check framexml log for files it couldn't open if you're suspecting filesystem issues?
14:43.39Pneumatusyeh, framexml should show any filesystem issues
14:43.51Pneumatusas it will moan about being unable to open certain files
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14:48.27SunTsuNothing concerning AutoBar or PeriodicTable in my FrameXML.log, so it's no obvious loading error
14:50.19glyphSunTsu: http://code.google.com/p/autobar/issues/detail?id=587
14:50.28glyphStar it, comment on it, etc.
14:52.34glyphSimilarly, nothing in FrameXML.log on either windows or linux indicating something different
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14:53.57Xinhuancheck uncompressed btye size of the files of autobar and its libraries
14:53.58Dark_Elf3.0.9 tomorrow
14:58.40glyphXinhuan: I can see both copies of autobar in Linux (which I am running right now); 'diff' reports no differences.  Both directories are about 2M
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14:59.52Xinhuanyou better be sure, differenecs in line endings can make all the difference between a working and non-working addon
15:00.01XinhuanWUU has something about it i think
15:00.43SunTsuglyph: Do non-WotLK Quest items work for you?
15:00.58SunTsuglyph: like the ones on QD
15:01.00Xinhuanalso you need the latest PT3.1
15:01.05Xinhuanto have working quest items for wrat
15:01.07Xinhuanwrath
15:01.16Xinhuansince its based on a library of known quest items
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15:01.31Xinhuanit doesn't actually scan your bags for items with "quest item" in the tooltip, lame but true
15:02.45SunTsuXinhuan: I'm experiencing the same problems, and I think PT3.1 in AutoBar's libs/ should be up to date
15:03.04Xinhuanyou better be absolutely sure on that, don't assume
15:03.06Xinhuancheck the dates
15:04.08glyphXinhuan: I copied the addon over myself right before starting WoW :)
15:04.44glyphXinhuan: I used wowmatrix to install it on windows, PT is included in the libs/ directory, so it must be the right version
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15:05.10glyphSunTsu: I'm not 100% sure about non-LK quest items, I'll double check on that later; but I think I have a few
15:05.42glyphmy DK is only 71, just came over from outland, so I think I've got a few straggling quest
15:06.04Xinhuanpossibly issue with load ordering then
15:06.31glyphXinhuan: oh, that's interesting.  file ordering on ntfs and ext3 is definitely different; how is load order determined?
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15:06.56Xinhuanload ordering is determined by the order the file system returns the folders
15:07.35Xinhuanfor ntfs, because it uses binary trees, the order returned is just a standard binary tree traversal, hence alphabetical order, then modified by TOC (optdeps/reqdeps)
15:07.38Xinhuannot sure on ext3
15:08.03XinhuanFAt32 returns order based on the FAT table entries, which is usually in the order they are created in by date, unless defragged
15:08.27SunTsuXinhuan: Hm, yeah, that could be the problem. I use baggins, which has an outdated PT3.1
15:09.40glyphXinhuan: ext3 it's quasi-random
15:09.59Xinhuanwell fat32 is "sort of random"
15:10.13glyphXinhuan: I think ext3 is similar.
15:10.33glyphmore nuanced pseudo-randomness though because ext3 sort of self-defragments during certain operations
15:10.51glyphlet's see what I can find that also uses PT
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15:11.21Xinhuanbasically, i've found addons taht use PT3.1 to be somewhat unreliable because the data tables aren't updated
15:11.33Xinhuanand rely mostly on user commit contributions
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15:12.33PneumatusPT3 upgrades properly though, doesnt it?
15:12.40Xinhuanit should
15:13.01Xinhuanthe main problem is there's no central person in charge of making sure its updated
15:14.00Groktari got a dragon's eye from "unknown"
15:14.05Groktari wonder who transferred
15:14.06PneumatusAzethoth seems to be updating it pretty regularly and running the miner etc
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15:14.39Xinhuanits probably an upgrading issue really
15:14.44Xinhuantry disembedding your libs?
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15:17.19SunTsuXinhuan: I only want to disembed PT3.1, because I have to update everything manually. So, it would be sufficient to get PT3.1 standalone and remove all addon's PT3.1 instances, right? At least if I clean there embeds.xml from it
15:17.37SunTsus/there/their/
15:17.41Xinhuanyou don't need to
15:17.45Xinhuando all that
15:17.51Xinhuanjust install pt3 standalone
15:17.53Xinhuanand that's it
15:18.24Xinhuanno reason to OCD about having extra copies or embeds.xml creating a minor error
15:18.44glyphXinhuan: woo!
15:18.54glyphXinhuan: some support for your hypothesis
15:19.35SunTsuXinhuan: yeah, but still I wouldn't know about loading priority, so the standalone one could be loaded after an outdated one, that is embedded, or am I mistaken?
15:19.50Pneumatusonly if the authors using PT3 fail at OptDeps
15:19.54Xinhuanthe addons should have specified PT3 as a optdep
15:20.01Xinhuanso the standalone will always load first
15:20.01Pneumatuseven so, it should still upgrade
15:20.18Xinhuanand if your standalone is the latest, then that's all that matetrs
15:20.27glyphit's !#@% Mr. Plow
15:20.36SunTsuOK, thanks, I'll try that as soon as I'm home
15:21.08glyphso now I just have to hope that WowMatrix has kept LibPeriodicTable up to date
15:21.23Pneumatusdiaf.
15:21.42Xinhuangoing to say that this channel is anti-wowmatrix
15:21.43SunTsuhehe
15:21.57glyphXinhuan: I figured you might be on account of wowmatrix's terrible evilness
15:22.00glyphI've heard it all before
15:22.14glyphsomebody make an ubuntu version of curse aceupdater or whatever and I'll install it in 10 seconds
15:22.24ckknightI shall crush WowMatrix with an iron fist
15:22.33Thraeglyph: No WINE?
15:22.37ckknightjust you watch
15:22.40SunTsuglyph: CC might run well on wine - and it might not ;)
15:22.46glyphThrae: what SunTsu said :)
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15:23.01SunTsuFor me it does not
15:23.01Pneumatusthat wouldnt be as fun as fisting wowmatrix with an iron crush
15:23.10ckknightPneumatus: hmm, quite
15:23.40Pneumatusi get a feeling authors might have even more to say about wowmatrix once the curse author rewards come in, anyway
15:24.22glyphyaaaay
15:24.24ckknightthe idea is that we're going to crush it at about the same time we launch premium and author rewards
15:24.27glyphstandalone libperiodictable fixed it
15:24.30glyphthanks so much
15:24.32SunTsuI resort to updating every other day by hand
15:25.21ThraeI was thinking of making a Lua tool that enumerates your directory and checks to see if the page has changed. Then the site is taking a HIT like an updater, but files aren't being downloaded. I'll just update the results by hand.
15:25.59Pneumatusin general though, unless people are using alphas you dont need to update more than once every couple of weeks anyway
15:27.21ckknightThrae: policy-wise, we wouldn't have any issue with that
15:27.30ckknightwe just don't like automatic screen-scraping that leads to a download
15:27.48ckknightgranted, at that point, it might be worthwhile to use the favorites list
15:27.50ckknightshrugs
15:28.01PneumatusThrae: you could achieve a similar result by subscribing for file updates to each project and setting your subs to daily emails
15:28.49ThraePneumatus: I could do that, but that would be just what they want me to do.
15:29.09ckknightmakes shifty eyes
15:29.40Xinhuan>.>
15:29.41Xinhuan<.<
15:29.52Pneumatusi think im down to like 3 addons i actually update alphas for now
15:30.06Xinhuanwhat are they
15:30.20glyphXinhuan: thanks a _ton_
15:30.31glyphthis was possibly the most helpful / effective IRC help session I've ever had
15:30.31PneumatusBigWigs/LittleWigs/PT3
15:30.40glyphwell, when I was on the receiving end of the help anyway ;-)
15:30.40Xinhuanwhat? i didn't do anything
15:30.54ckknighthey all, can you test out the new CSS on wowace? There's a link at the bottom of the page (in the footer) to switch to it
15:31.00glyphXinhuan: man, you like reasoned out the cause of this bug from the filesystem drivers all the way up through the Lua dependency system
15:31.07glyphXinhuan: and then you gave me a usable workaround
15:31.20glyphand this was driving me _crazy_
15:31.24ulicspeaking of littlewigs, ckk did you by chance see my issue with translations?
15:31.28glyphXinhuan: are you on ohloh or anything
15:31.30ckknightno, ulic
15:31.39Pneumatusoh, and ARL gets switched between alpha and beta depending on how broken it is at any one time
15:31.58Pneumatusoh, and Grid, but thats because a change i need hasnt been pushed to release yet
15:32.09Pneumatusso 5, potentially
15:32.49ulicckknight: it's a problem where a namespace exists, but when you look at the namespace via the web it shows no phrases, but when you browse through the whole list, you can see phrases that are supposed to be in that namespace, and the important part, the packages doesn't grab the phrases for the namespace.  I'll get some links so you can see it.
15:33.13ckknightyea, links'd be useful
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15:35.39ulicckknight: http://paste.wowace.com/272/
15:36.23ckknightwtf
15:36.38ulicyea, wierd huh?
15:36.48ckknightk, I'll check it out
15:37.25ulicI haven't tried anything tricky, like deleting and recreating the namespace or anything, figured I'd let you have a look first.
15:39.06SunTsu*lol* http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=7913073300&sid=3 - textual rick rolling
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15:39.38SunTsuI feel sort of bel aired
15:40.10glyphXinhuan: you should make an account, but: https://www.ohloh.net/p/4590/contributors/19716047415008/kudos ;-)
15:40.44ckknighthow many kudos do I have?
15:40.52ckknightif it's less than 50, something is wrong
15:41.00Xinhuansounds inaccurate
15:41.14ckknight:P
15:41.16Xinhuani definitely have more than 306 commits ;p
15:41.25glyphXinhuan: their stats are screwed up in various ways
15:41.34glyphXinhuan: they only count commits to trunk, and they sometimes drop history
15:41.47glyphYou can sometimes fix it up if you register your project
15:41.55Xinhuanlazy
15:42.14glyphBut you can get POINTS!!!
15:42.24glyph;-)
15:42.30Megalonpayback points!!11
15:42.41glyph(I have no affiliation with ohloh, I just wanted to push a "good job" button somewhere and apparently the curse author rewards program doesn't let you do that)
15:43.31Xinhuanif its not achievement points, i'm not interested ;p
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15:44.55PneumatusKemayo is 8th highest ranked, followed by Tekkub for all Lua commits :o
15:45.11glyphman, why do I have so many more points than you guys
15:45.13glyphthis doesn't make sense
15:45.21glyphnobody uses Twisted, compared to wowace
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15:48.00glyphanyway, thanks again!  I will stop bothering you now.
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15:48.30thulYOU ARE BOTHERING THE PEACE glyph
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16:11.38Pneumatus~wowalert
16:11.39purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
16:13.09Stanzilla!points 2v2 1500
16:13.10Xinhuan2v2 is not a number, idiot.
16:13.13Stanzillalawl
16:13.20Stanzilla!points 1500
16:13.21Xinhuan1500 arena points require 2963(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating.
16:13.30Stanzilla!rating 1500
16:13.31Xinhuan1500 rating gives 344(5s), 302(3s) and 261(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
16:13.43Repo10recount: 03Elsia * r982 Tracker.lua:
16:13.46Repo- Fixed extra attack proccing (hopefully for good now). These will still be reported as "Proccing ability (Proc spell)" e.g. if your eviscerate procs sword specialization you will see "Eviscerate (Sword Specialization)". This is to allow people to see the proc rate of specials, even though the extra swing is white. I.e. only procs caused by white damage will show as "Melee (Sword Specialization)".
16:13.58Fisker-attack!
16:14.30ckknightattacks Fisker-
16:14.48Fisker-no u
16:14.59Fisker-it's cold here :(
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16:26.11ulichmm, seems like wow.curse.com is getting hung up on connecting to staticbeta.curse.com for me.  Anyone else?
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16:43.09ckknightulic: ugh, what page?
16:44.15Megalonmhm, works for me, didn't notice any slowdown on the curse page
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16:44.32ulicckknight: the index page
16:44.43ckknighta link would be useful
16:44.43ulichttp://wow.curse.com/
16:44.45ckknightokay
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16:45.14ulicfirefox just gets stuck at transfering date from staticbeta.curse.com for me.
16:45.16ulic*data
16:45.34ckknightinformed the dev
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16:46.23ckknightstaticbeta = current, static = old cruse
16:46.24ckknightcurse*
16:46.25ckknight:P
16:47.18p4avedhey funkeh
16:47.49p4avedcan u please change stablock_meleestats to include expertise, like the changes i made and posted here http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=13627
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16:52.48ckknightokay, I'm gonna move everyone to the new CSS system and hope nobody notices any differences
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16:58.58Elkanonew css-system on which page?
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17:00.13ckknightElkano: all pages
17:00.47Elkanok
17:01.16ckknightwe're using CleverCSS now to specify our CSS, rather than just raw CSS
17:01.25quiescenshmm
17:01.48p4avedyeh we might try that
17:01.49p4avedmt
17:03.01Elkanobtw, the one who coded your pages should be slapped for some of the bugs...
17:03.37Elkanoeg using <script> with no type set
17:06.08ckknightshrugs
17:06.12ckknightwasn't me
17:06.20ckknightI do wanna clean things up sometime
17:07.07ckknightElkano: where you seeing <script>?
17:07.24Elkanocurse
17:07.30Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r546 / (3 files in 3 directories): - Tweaks to some of the logging stuff
17:07.33Repo- moved some locals around (C&C)
17:07.47ckknightoh, curse
17:07.53ckknightokay, I'm just talking about wowace/curseforge
17:08.11ckknightI don't deal with the curse stack
17:08.57Pneumatuswowaces css doesnt validate
17:10.48ckknightreally?
17:10.58ckknightI'll check it out
17:11.14nevcairielbuilding a completly validating website is nearly impossible if you want to support all browsers =P
17:11.15Pneumatus11 errors when i just ran validation
17:12.03ckknightokay, I see one legit error
17:12.05ckknightthat I'll fix
17:12.30[Ammo]nevcairiel: it's actually easier than you think
17:12.38[Ammo]html 4.1 strict is the trick and fuck IE6 :p
17:12.51nevcairielthere is a 4.1?
17:12.52ckknightwe don't care about IE6
17:12.54ckknightand 4.1 doesn't exist
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17:13.03[Ammo]well 4 strict
17:13.17nevcairielWell css is another deal, anyway
17:13.19[Ammo]but make it strict and it'll work almost identical in IE7, FF3, Opera etc
17:13.37nevcairielYou can write clean css 2.0 and it'll be fine in modern browsers
17:13.37[Ammo]true, but few things you need to know about floats padding margin etc
17:13.39[Ammo]and then you're done
17:13.45nevcairielbut how wide spread is css 2.0 implementation yet?
17:13.52[Ammo]we use ye ole css
17:13.55[Ammo]and still validate
17:14.02nevcairielcss3 has some nice stuff
17:14.06[Ammo]we have to due to providing government websites
17:14.07nevcairielbut uhuh support
17:14.08Pneumatuswowace isnt even close to XHTML 1.0 Transitional which it claims to be though
17:14.18ckknightand we use <iframe>, so we can't go strict
17:14.21nevcairielXHTML is a joke, imho
17:14.25ckknightnevcairiel: quite.
17:14.35ckknightPneumatus: yea, I want to change it to HTML 4.0 Transitional
17:14.36ckknightproperly
17:14.38[Ammo]ckknight: replace iframe with <object>
17:14.38ckknightI might do that today
17:14.44[Ammo]and it'll work, read up on it
17:14.48nevcairielSGML is more appropriate for websites, XML should stay at the data part
17:14.53[Ammo]google: replacing iframe with object
17:15.02nevcairielThats why i look forward to HTML5 instead of XHTML2
17:15.04ckknighthow well supported is that now?
17:15.17[Ammo]pretty good unless you do funky javascript callbacks outside of your iframe
17:15.20[Ammo]then it gets fucke
17:15.22[Ammo]+d
17:15.33Pneumatuswell, its a damn site closer to 4.01 transitional than xhtml 1.0 anyway
17:15.45[Ammo]I make a living out of these implementations, although I don't know the nitty gritty details I know the big picture well enough
17:16.07ckknightIE7 doesn't support <object> properly
17:16.07ckknightso we can't use it
17:16.07[Ammo]it does
17:16.09ckknightdoes it?
17:16.09[Ammo]but limited
17:16.12nevcairielDoes HTML 4.01 Strict allow tables? i vaguely remember XHTML 1.0 strict not allowing it
17:16.13[Ammo]so it depends on what you need out of it
17:16.19ckknightnevcairiel: tables are fine
17:16.22[Ammo]it does allow tables
17:16.32[Ammo]it allows almost everything but frameset/iframe
17:16.36steevhrm
17:16.39nevcairielframes are teh evil
17:16.45[Ammo]yeah
17:16.50[Ammo]and there is usually a way around using them
17:16.52Pneumatusstrict forces you to abstract all formatting to css though, which can only be a good thing
17:16.59nevcairielindeed
17:17.01[Ammo]yeah it's a very good thing
17:17.16[Ammo]anyway, wife just put the dinner on the table :)
17:17.18nevcairielcan you still use style inline tags? :p
17:17.20[Ammo]time for chow
17:17.22[Ammo]no
17:17.31[Ammo]or rather style tags are ok, but should be in the <head> tag
17:17.41[Ammo]but no style=""
17:17.47ckknightI thought style="" worked but was discouraged
17:18.05[Ammo]it's just fucking ugly
17:18.07[Ammo]and not needed at all
17:18.23[Ammo]anyway, getting the evil eye
17:18.25[Ammo]later :)
17:19.14nevcairielPersonally i don't like UPPERCASE html tags
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17:19.50ckknightnevcairiel: same
17:19.56ckknightbut how is that relevant?
17:20.01Funkeh`p4aved, feel fre to commit expertise
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17:20.22nevcairielalot of people associate upper-case with html4.01 and write everythign upper case in them <.<
17:20.37p4avedyay! now i just have to learn how to use svn :/  ty Funkeh
17:21.14Funkeh`on wowace it's the first thing you should learn
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17:21.56ckknightdown with svn
17:22.02ckknight<.<
17:22.03ckknight>.>
17:22.17steevsrsly
17:22.18nevcairielwe should all go back to uploading zips
17:22.31steev<BOLD>
17:22.33nevcairielj/k
17:22.35steev<MARQUEE>
17:22.46nevcairielmarquee is so 1990's
17:22.53Xinhuan<BLINK>
17:22.54ckknight<BLINK> ftw
17:22.56steevit was the hotness on tripod
17:23.03ckknighthehe, steev
17:23.05steevamg i can has scrolling text
17:23.13steevthis page is LEET
17:23.20Pneumatus<FONT FACE="Comic Sans MS">
17:23.48steevi remember that fad
17:23.54steevi also remember the first website i ever visited
17:24.17steevhttp://www.pmichaud.com/toast/
17:24.23steevof course, back then it was an ip address
17:25.31Pneumatus"overwhelming" = over 2000 page views
17:25.44Pneumatusthose indeed were the days
17:25.51ckknightyep
17:26.10ckknightwowace is getting 4.92 reqs/s
17:26.11ckknight:P
17:26.47ckknightso we get that in less than 7 minutes
17:26.56ckknightgood times
17:27.00Pneumatusit took that page a month!
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17:32.16steevthat page was awesome
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17:32.22steevhell it still is!
17:32.42steevlook at that hawt white background, blue link text
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17:33.13steevyou just don't find web pages with that kinda quality anymore
17:33.35steevnowadays everything is like 15 pixels of info and the rest is advertisements
17:35.27XinhuanIn the future, we recommend that toasters be sold in six-packs
17:35.28Xinhuanwin
17:37.13ckknighthehe
17:37.26ckknightsteev: wowace isn't too bad for content vs. advertisement ratio
17:37.31ckknight:P
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17:37.44p4avedthere's advertising?
17:37.48ckknightno, there's not
17:37.56nevcairielsure there is
17:37.59nevcairielmain news is a big ad
17:38.06ckknightfor the curse client?
17:38.08ckknight:P
17:38.10nevcairielindeed
17:38.11ckknightI suppose
17:38.20ckknightat least it's not flashy and annoying
17:38.25ckknightand on every page
17:38.26p4avedi was thinking this could be a part of that mirror universe without adblock
17:38.37ckknightlol
17:38.57ckknightI'll write my own curse client
17:38.59ckknightwith strippers
17:39.02ckknightand blackjack
17:39.05p4avedwtb
17:39.13Pneumatushookers, not strippers :<
17:39.16ckknightstill in the alpha stages, p4aved
17:39.21ckknightPneumatus: you're right
17:39.26p4avedi'll beta test!
17:41.47ckknightlol
17:42.25ckknightrealistically, it would be interesting to have the opportunity to write my own client
17:42.34ckknightbut I lack time and funding
17:42.45nevcairielfunding? :P
17:43.04ckknight:P
17:43.05ckknightI'm paid to do other things
17:43.13kadrahilsoooooo
17:43.18p4avedstrippers are pay enough no?
17:43.18kadrahilwho makes a lot of wow movies
17:43.33kadrahilor does video encoding in general :(
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17:48.57Repo10volumizer: 03Torhal * r11 Volumizer.lua:
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17:49.02RepoAdded SlashCmd "/volumizer" to open the control panel in the center of the screen.
17:49.05Repo10volumizer: 03Torhal 043.0.8-1.0.3 * r12 : Tagging as 3.0.8-1.0.3
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18:23.56AckisWork@describe epokegotchi
18:23.57RepoAckisWork: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/epokegotchi/. Pokemon Tamagotchi -- Eevee Edition.  Pokemon Tamagotchi, or Pokegotchi for short, is a tamagotchi AddOn that uses the Pokemon characters from Pokemon Mystery Dungeon as your companions. It is a fairly easy one to use (I hope) and can be...
18:30.16Funkeh`fuck off
18:31.06Fisker-yeah Ackis
18:32.50quiescenso.O
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18:35.56Pneumatusulic: http://ace.pastey.net/107989 error with LittleWigs i think
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18:53.21StanzillaFunkeh`: bw thaddius module: bw checks for changed polarity when he starts casting the shift, but the debuff change happens when he finished casting it
18:53.37Stanzillaso you get "same polarity" messages even if it changed after the cast
19:00.04Stanzillavhaarr: same^ :P
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19:05.43Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r4966 Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua:
19:05.46RepoBigWigs: Naxxramas/Thaddius: Back down if the unit isn't the player.
19:06.17Funkeh`that doesn't fix it, Ill look at it further later
19:06.20ckknighthey ulic
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19:21.16StanzillaFunkeh`: and I think i got both the 10m and 25m start message of the module
19:21.21Stanzillafor enrage etc
19:22.19ulicckknight: yes sir
19:22.30ckknightulic: found the namespace issue, fixed, and shouldn't happen again
19:22.51ulicit was a problem on the wowace end of things right, not something I did or didn't do?
19:23.49SkellumThe #1 advantage I see in DBM over Bigwigs is the lack of a HP monitor on BW in fights like Thaddius, 4h, kalecgos etc
19:23.53SkellumIs there a real reason BW lacks that?
19:26.41Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r547 LittleWigs.toc: make me an alpha
19:27.06AckisWorkthose monitors are created outside of the core
19:27.11AckisWork@project bwkh
19:27.12RepoAckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bwkh/. BigWigs_KalecgosHealth. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), tomsommer (Author). Updated: 18 hours ago
19:28.04Skellumahhhh
19:28.14SkellumI didnt know if it was something it lacked or a mod maker decision
19:30.00Repo10postman: 03Speeddymon * r20 Postman.lua:
19:30.03RepoTakeItems() sanity check/debug message fixes to prevent nil errors.
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19:30.46RepoAdded INVTYPE_WEAPON to accompany INVTYPE_WEAPONMAINHAND and INVTYPE_WEAPONOFFHAND as a check to suppress two-handed weapon enchantments.
19:30.49RepoReplaced "MenuButton" with "ButtonName" in configuration menu, so the localizations will work there.
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19:38.14ulicckknight: looks great, thanks!
19:38.25ckknightulic: the issue is that you created the namespace twice
19:38.28ckknighthow, I'm not sure
19:38.35ulicoh, interesting
19:38.36ckknightbut now there's a unique constraint
19:38.44Fisker-hey ckknight
19:38.47Fisker-my window is open
19:38.47ckknighthey Fisker-
19:38.50ckknightk?
19:38.54ulicsweet, since I screwed up, extra thanks
19:38.59ulic++kudos ckknight
19:39.12Fisker-in that erotic kind of way ckknight
19:44.04ckknightgo back to the corner, Fisker-
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19:46.14Fisker-already in a corner
19:51.38ckknightbut you're no longer facing the wall like you should be, am I right?
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19:58.04AckisWorkFisker-: watch out, ckk just wants you to bend over for surprise buttsecks
19:58.14ckknight...it's true
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20:00.21TorhalFeh.
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20:01.57ckknightTorhal: hmm?
20:02.17TorhalNothing in particular. Just "Feh."
20:02.56TorhalI'm trying to determine level restrictions on an enchantment without resorting to tooltip scanning. Methinks it's not happening.
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20:20.13Jaxonckknight: what rules define what addon updates get pushed to the wowace rss feed?
20:20.22ckknightwhich rss feed?
20:20.42JaxonHmm, let me see if I can get the exact URL from google reader
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20:21.53Jaxonckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects.rss
20:22.13Repo10mailboxplus: 03Speeddymon 04r4 * r5 : Tagging as r4
20:22.20ckknightbasically, new projects (once approved) and when a file is added to the project
20:23.05Arrowmasterprobably the rss thats not addon updates at all but just when projects get updated
20:23.15Arrowmasterthat has nothing to do with file updates
20:23.17Arrowmasterchanging the description should make that update
20:23.19Arrowmasteror any other minor edit to the site
20:24.02JaxonThanks.  I'm trying to narrow down my problem with feed updates that have revision history from the beginning of time and I don't think it is from the wowace feed
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20:25.03Zhinjioquestion
20:25.14ZhinjioI have a laptop with an external monitor.
20:25.28Zhinjionormally, this is just the fn-f8 "clone mode" type thing
20:25.39Zhinjiowhere it displays either/or both, but they both have the same image
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20:25.48ckknightright
20:26.06Zhinjiois it possible to change the resolution of the external display indepdently of the inboard laptop display?
20:26.08ckknightArrowmaster: wrong
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20:26.18Arrowmasterckknight: you changed it?
20:26.25ckknightyea, a while back
20:26.31ArrowmasterZhinjio: in clone? no
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20:33.54pompyugh the achievement for the 160 recipes is like bugged, it said 153/160 at one point, and then later says 152/160.
20:36.07Pneumatusyup
20:36.30nevcairielit only bugs for people that don't deserve it
20:36.31Pneumatusits 1/3 recipes out for a lot of people
20:36.35nevcairiellike all achievements!
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20:37.34Pneumatusmine is stuck at 158/160 and there's only 1 recipe in game that i dont have
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20:40.31JaxonFor some reason, I'm pretty sure that one isn't reasonably achieveable considering the number of quest reward recipes on both factions.
20:41.18nevcairielAchievements don't have to be reasonable :)
20:41.22Pneumatusgetting quest reward recipies isnt hard
20:41.27nevcairielIt is achievable, however
20:41.31nevcairielalot of people have it
20:41.38nevcairielnumerous in my guild
20:41.46Pneumatusa lot of people have it with under 160 recipies learned :P
20:42.26JaxonSame with my guild, nevcairiel, but I don't think the intent is to have it complete until there are more recipes added to the game.
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20:53.23NeoTronI bet I was just happy I hide joins and parts. am I right?
20:54.03NivFreakyea
20:54.15nevcairielit wasnt that bad
20:54.27nevcairieljust get a client that detects netsplits and shows a summary instead of the full split
20:54.59Repo10sign-on: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.3-7-gecbbc69 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+6 commits] (2 truncated)
20:55.10Repoecbbc69: Update tutorial message (fix a typo, add new flags, change example).
20:55.13Repob6e4d63: Remove debug scripts.
20:55.19Repoe6c282e: Add an ugly hack to make sure brackets are coloured properly, now matter how bizzare the tag/flag combo is.
20:55.25Repo8b464b5: The :white stuff... are you made of it?
20:55.34Gnarfoznevcairiel: need that for xchat :(
20:55.55nevcairielhm it doesnt do that?
20:55.58NeoTronso I am glad to announce I finally removed eePanels in favor of kgPanels
20:55.59EthanCentauraifails at spelling
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20:56.16NeoTronI recreated the single black square panel I had... took a long time but was worth the effort!
20:56.24Gnarfoznevcairiel: 2.6.x doesn't at least, 2.8 doesn't either afaik; don't know if there's a 3.0 by now
20:56.24nevcairielirc server do send a different message for a split then a usual quit
20:56.45Gnarfozyeah, I'm aware. I wonder how this is not a standard feature
20:57.04ZhinjioNeoTron: let me know if you can get the scripting to actually fucking work
20:57.45NeoTronyeah that I don't do. I mean as I said I have a single panel
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21:54.43Repo10trickortreat: 03falconindy 07master * fccdfd3 / (6 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Manually packaging LibCBH, LDB and LibStub with project. Added Broker data source.
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22:06.16harl|LOSTwhy does my curseclient still recognize BigWigs and LittleWigs as being of versions from december/october ?
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22:09.11harl|LOSTtried to fix it by deleting curseclient's database thing and by deleting all bigwigs/littlewigs, (still) didn't help though
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22:10.25Hirsuteharl|LOST: I had to uninstall the addons, via the curse client, and then reinstall them.  I haven't had issues with it since.
22:11.09harlok, will try
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22:17.01Repo10grid2: 03jerry * r47 / (2 files in 2 directories): fix some options for indicators.
22:17.38Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r253 / (22 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
22:17.41Repo- Removed the custom configuration window
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22:17.47Repo- Removed "Banked" and "Alt has" options. The only supported addon no longer works
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22:58.10Repo- ruRU update
22:59.51Zhinjioha
22:59.57Zhinjiothis is full of awesome: Golden Sansam : grey 360!!!
22:59.59Zhinjiowoops.
23:00.16Zhinjiohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4
23:00.21Zhinjiodecidedly SFW
23:00.28durcyndecidedly, eh.
23:03.09cncfanaticsany priests around that would mind proofreading the disc priest compendium I'm working on ? its at http://www.pernicious-guild.org/discpriest.html
23:03.28cncfanaticsI really need feedback at this point
23:04.04Primerso I'm reading up on hit rating in 25 man raids. Seems we locks want to be at 17%. So I get 3% from cataclysm, 3% from shadow priest, and 1% from Draenei
23:04.12Primermeaning I only need 10% from gear
23:04.19Primeris that how it works?
23:04.24durcyn17% is the spell hit cap regardless of class
23:04.50durcynand yes, you can safely subtract draenei presence and ff/misery
23:04.55Primerright now my character sheet shows 329 (12.54%)
23:05.03NeoTronyou've got extra hit!
23:05.16Primerso...more than enough? since we do have SP and Draenei, and I have cataclysm
23:05.22NeoTronright
23:05.24NeoTronbut
23:05.27durcynpersonally, i'd recommend 13%, since it lets you drop suppression and cataclysm and pick up more useful talents
23:05.29NeoTrondo you use any affliction spells?
23:05.33NeoTronlike corruption or CoA
23:05.39NeoTron^^^
23:06.20Primerwell, I've been pondering if constant incinerate spam is better than maintaining coa, corruption, and immolate up all the time
23:06.29cncfanaticsmolten core
23:06.33cncfanaticsyou prolly want CoA up at least
23:06.57PrimerI'm 0/41/30
23:07.06NeoTrondefinitely should ahve CoA/Immolate up
23:07.12Primerwith fel guard glyoh
23:07.14NeoTronCorruption/Immolate if you hav to use CoE
23:07.26Primerwe have boomkin
23:07.40NeoTronso CoA/Immo
23:07.51NeoTronCoA glyph is pretty insanely handy too
23:08.04NeoTron<PROTECTED>
23:08.30Primerwow, my glyph interface is bugged
23:08.47NeoTronI've seen someone else here report it being bugged
23:09.01Primernot sure if I have that one
23:09.38Primerdoes wowarmory show glyphs?
23:10.07durcyndon't believe it does yet
23:11.12NeoTronit doesn't
23:11.26NeoTronbut CoA/Immo makes those much more fun and FG ofc is good for demo
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23:15.36Primerin a raid, my fg has 30k HP
23:15.46Primeronly the tanks and one dps war have more
23:16.07Primerhe tanked a boss for 15 seconds once
23:16.23Primerhealer ws good enough to target the boss and heal its target
23:16.32Primerin 25 man naxx
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23:17.06Primereveryone in vent was all "go go lock pet tank!"
23:19.32NeoTrondo you use the doomguard at all?
23:19.38NeoTronif not, as demo, it probably has over 50k health
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23:21.57Primernever used DG
23:22.21NeoTronadmittedly less useful as demo but very handy on fights like sapphiron where aoe damage puts even a felguard to the test
23:22.44Primeryeah, I lose my fg some times on Sapph
23:22.56Primersince healers never heal it
23:23.06PrimerI end up having to heal it myself
23:23.20Primerit's ok to leave on the boss for when that thing comes down
23:24.12harlany ideas why right-clicking names in the chatframes will bring up the edit-box for me instead of the common context menu ?
23:25.27ulicAnyone considered using the @Debug@ stuff for english translations, so svn code will still run when using the web translations, only for english of course.
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23:29.33Primerso, I have enough valor badges to upgrade my boots, but the 2 options don't seem that great
23:29.52Primerbeing "raid hit capped", I'm guessing go for the haste boots?
23:30.17Primerhttp://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=40751
23:32.19cncfanaticsPrimer: raid naked imo
23:32.52Xinhuanwell you should plan
23:33.12Xinhuanyou will probably be gaining other gear, which replaces some of your existing hit gear as well
23:33.50Xinhuanulic: that's what PB4 and Postal does, and Gathermate as well
23:34.13ulicah, cool.
23:34.19Xinhuanhowever ulic
23:34.35Xinhuanit will fail on keys like
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23:34.47XinhuanL["SORT_DESC"]
23:34.55XinhuanL["SORT_DESC"] = "some really long description"
23:35.05Xinhuansince that would just display "SORT_DESC"
23:35.25Xinhuanso, just take that into account
23:36.14sylvanaarulic prat does it too
23:36.25Xinhuanthat you might have to define some keys manually, in the @debug@ section
23:36.29ulicwell with bigs we use 'SORT_DESC = "something long"', so I think we should be ok.
23:36.36ulic*bigwigs
23:36.53Xinhuanyeah well, i'm saying if you pass the 4tha argument as true
23:36.57Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * a8c5e1c Modules/CastBar/CastBar.lua: [+3 commits]
23:37.00Repoa8c5e1c: camelCase cleanup in CastBar.
23:37.03Repo3b86133: Revert "update player cast data every tick, as sometimes incorrect info pops up and player is too important to get wrong"
23:37.03Xinhuanthen users who use SVN would actually see "SORT_DESC" in game
23:37.07Repo469dfa5: Revert "rearrange things a little, also put pet and target on the fast data update."
23:37.20Xinhuansince the translation woudln't exist without the repo packing it
23:37.47vhaarrulic: feel free to replace those instances with the real text
23:38.11vhaarri.e. change
23:38.11vhaarrL["SORT_DESC"] = "some really long description" -> L["some really long description"] = true
23:39.15ulicvhaarr: isn't bigwigs looking for the _desc based on the toggleoptions?
23:39.31vhaarrah right, I was thinking about Core, Options and Plugins+Extras
23:39.31Arrowmasteryeah i think it does
23:39.34vhaarrnot boss modules
23:39.55ulicit doesn't really bother me, it's just different than the way most addons do it.
23:39.59vhaarrulic: specifically I committed a new string yesterday just called "should_update", I thought you were talking about that one
23:40.23Arrowmasteryou could do the export and manually import the english strings without using @localization@ but then do all other lanugages using @localization@
23:40.48Arrowmasterenglish shouldnt change that often
23:40.48Stanzillavhaarr: got my messages about some bigwigs modules?
23:40.49Xinhuanya can do that, just takes more work
23:40.54vhaarrStanzilla: no
23:40.56ulicArrowmaster: that's true.
23:41.02Xinhuanto make sure the english hardcoded copy is "synced" with the non-enUS ones
23:41.11vhaarrStanzilla: privmsg me the next time I don't reply within a few minutes
23:41.16Stanzillayeah sorry
23:41.31Stanzillavhaarr: thaddies polarity change happens after he finished his cast, bigwigs reports when he starts casting
23:41.37Arrowmasteris there a place to put comments on localizations?
23:41.49ulicI think I'll just go with the debug method, so any helps that run from svn code and at least run the addon.
23:41.56ulic*helpers
23:41.58Stanzilla*thaddius
23:42.17vhaarrStanzilla: reports what?
23:42.25Stanzillaso you get "polarity did not change" even if he did not even finish his cast
23:42.37vhaarrStanzilla: on the first cast?
23:42.41vhaarror on all of them
23:43.03Stanzillaall of them
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23:43.27Arrowmasterdoes it trigger an aura_refresh combatlog event?
23:44.19vhaarrStanzilla: got a log?
23:44.25Stanzillanah sorry, noticed it mid-fight
23:44.25PrimerXinhuan: good point
23:44.34Stanzillaand it was a undying run so..no time for that :P
23:44.37PrimerXinhuan: about the replacement of gear
23:44.49Stanzillaoh and I got the "start messages" for both 25m and 10m in 10m
23:44.58Stanzillalike both enrage timer messages I think
23:45.08vhaarrwhat?
23:45.42Stanzillalooked weird, I'll pay attention the next time. but I thought the polarity messages are more important
23:46.04vhaarrthaddius doesn't have different enrage timers or start messages for 25/10 man
23:46.29Xinhuanu better check if anyone else commited to it ;p
23:46.30Stanzillastill looked like I got 2 messages, wasn't a big problem tho
23:46.35Xinhuanthaddius that is
23:46.44ulicself:AddCombatListener("SPELL_CAST_START", "Shift", 28089)
23:46.55ulicmaybe there is a SUCCEED, if that works now.
23:47.21Xinhuansuccess*
23:47.54vhaarrwell it's simple, I just need to change the bossmod from using UNIT_AURA to using the combat log events instead
23:48.06vhaarrproblem is I need a log of the fight
23:48.42ulicoic what you mean.
23:49.13Pneumatusvhaarr: if you can cope with grepping massive combat logs of whole instances i can find one for you :P
23:49.22vhaarryes I can
23:50.04Stanzillayou can't get the raw file back from wws, can you`?
23:50.32Xinhuannope, and saving the raw file as raw is silly
23:50.43Xinhuani would just store the whole file as integers
23:51.11Xinhuanmap every event to an unique integer, map every unique GUID to another integer, and their names
23:51.21*** part/#wowace kilrogg (n=kilrogg@i577BCAD2.versanet.de)
23:51.26Xinhuanstore whole file in integers, and have the mapping defined somewhere
23:54.42*** join/#wowace QQngsk (n=Gngsk@c-69-138-214-242.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
23:56.32vhaarrcan anyone give me a WWS of a thaddius fight?
23:56.35vhaarrI just want to confirm something
23:57.16waallenhttp://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/1670926
23:57.45vhaarrye that's what I thought
23:57.56vhaarrcan't detect this crap with the combat log, have to use UNIT_AURA
23:58.16waallenthe polarity?
23:58.16ulicyea, I just looked at a 10-man someone posted and I don't see any messages for the charges.
23:58.26vhaarrye there isn't any
23:58.41vhaarrand the polarity shift is only notified by a SPELL_CAST_STAT
23:58.43vhaarrRT*
23:58.52vhaarrthere is no _SUCCESS
23:59.08ulicjust "<177.5> [Thaddius][Polarity Shift][] -[spellcastSuccess]-", -- [8814]
23:59.16vhaarryes because of the event
23:59.34ulicoh wait,
23:59.42vhaarrbut no combat log event
23:59.45ulicMonster Yell [Now you feel pain...:Thaddius:::::0:0::0:77] -[yell]-
23:59.52ulicdoh that's no the line I wanted
23:59.59ulicRaid boss emote [The polarity has shifted!

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