| 00:00.01 | NivFreak | tag it and I'll try it out tonight as well |
| 00:00.11 | vhaarr | can't you download a alpha zip >> |
| 00:00.14 | vhaarr | wts tagging |
| 00:00.23 | NivFreak | well I CAN |
| 00:00.28 | NivFreak | but wouldn't it be beta? :) |
| 00:00.41 | vhaarr | why would it be? |
| 00:00.53 | NivFreak | clearly because you've vetted it in a real world raid! |
| 00:01.00 | NivFreak | and because both are abitrary |
| 00:01.02 | vhaarr | should we tag every fucking commit? |
| 00:01.09 | vhaarr | I hate it, just get a alpha |
| 00:01.09 | NivFreak | so hostile :) |
| 00:01.14 | vhaarr | yes not towards you |
| 00:01.16 | vhaarr | but towards tagging |
| 00:01.34 | NivFreak | I just hate clients, that don't let me pull alphas |
| 00:01.47 | NivFreak | does the new CC build do that yet? :P |
| 00:02.18 | Torhal | NivFreak: It does indeed. |
| 00:02.26 | NivFreak | Kaelten|away: mac version gogo |
| 00:02.35 | NivFreak | I tried to get it working again in darwine last night for an hour |
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| 00:03.45 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Funkeh`] by ChanServ |
| 00:07.01 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4941 Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: |
| 00:07.04 | Repo | Add polarity changed/no change warnings. Flash'n'Shake + alarm on change, no triggers on same debuff. |
| 00:07.36 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4942 Plugins/Messages.lua: |
| 00:07.39 | Repo | Make BigWigs_Message work with a Interface\...\... style icon as well as a spell name/ID. |
| 00:08.09 | vhaarr | NivFreak: and believe it or not, Malygos refused to Surge me on both 25man and 10man today .. |
| 00:08.14 | vhaarr | but it should work fine, it did last time IIRC |
| 00:10.02 | NeoTron | surge warning works for me |
| 00:10.06 | NeoTron | with bigwigs |
| 00:10.12 | vhaarr | cool |
| 00:10.23 | vhaarr | NivFreak: well if you have anything more, just poke me |
| 00:10.43 | Ackis | hey vhaarr are you going to tag that? |
| 00:10.45 | Ackis | giggles |
| 00:10.49 | vhaarr | :P |
| 00:10.53 | vhaarr | ~whalecrit Ackis |
| 00:10.53 | purl | ACTION crits Ackis with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Ackis dies |
| 00:11.07 | Repo | 10seraphimraidtracker: 03Barret7sc * r13 Core.lua: Fixed issue that would cause bg groups to add to list. |
| 00:11.50 | vhaarr | someone else is welcome to tag it, I won't :P |
| 00:12.43 | *** join/#wowace break19 (n=break19@68.63.49.20) |
| 00:12.44 | Ackis | svn tag vhaarr |
| 00:12.47 | Ackis | oops |
| 00:12.54 | Funkeh` | I guess I should it's about tag time again |
| 00:13.13 | Bruners | Altoholic is really cool |
| 00:13.22 | Funkeh` | didn't messages always use inteface/dir can't remember |
| 00:13.38 | Funkeh` | or am I thining of bars |
| 00:13.44 | vhaarr | you are |
| 00:13.44 | Funkeh` | thniking* even |
| 00:13.53 | Funkeh` | oh whatever it's late |
| 00:13.53 | vhaarr | :P |
| 00:14.34 | NivFreak | vhaarr: I'll give it a shot, r4942 I assume |
| 00:14.36 | vhaarr | yes |
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| 00:15.27 | taleden | what's the most efficient way to "freeze" a cooldown frame? is there some way to SetCooldown() such that it stays at that fullness and doesn't automatically tick away? |
| 00:15.55 | vhaarr | perhaps removing the onupdate on the frame |
| 00:16.16 | vhaarr | pulling that out of my ass though, I have no idea |
| 00:16.21 | Funkeh` | I was going to suggest creating a frame over it but vhaarr's idea sounds much better |
| 00:16.37 | taleden | hm |
| 00:17.20 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r4943-release * r4943 : Tagging as r4943-release |
| 00:17.36 | Funkeh` | muah |
| 00:18.52 | Funkeh` | Wow it's bene over 2 weeks since I updated badboy, probably a longest record. Spammers getting bored? |
| 00:19.01 | Repo | 10chocolatebar: 03yess * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory): added icons to the plugins list in the options |
| 00:19.30 | Funkeh` | Ackis, That's not a nice thing to say |
| 00:19.33 | Ackis | lol |
| 00:19.33 | Kuja^ | hrm, im too slow :p |
| 00:20.22 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1470 AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 00:20.25 | Repo | Add a nasty message for people who get the mod via svn! kekek |
| 00:20.34 | NivFreak | Ackis: why? :P |
| 00:20.48 | Funkeh` | It's "I svn'd your mom last night" isn't it |
| 00:21.05 | Ackis | oh good one Funkeh` |
| 00:21.13 | taleden | psh, you can do better than that |
| 00:21.18 | taleden | "I tagged your mom last night" |
| 00:21.21 | taleden | "I rolled back your mom last night" |
| 00:21.25 | Ackis | it's just a message informing users that svn:externals aren't setup anymore so you'll have to get the libraries manually |
| 00:21.27 | taleden | "I diffed your mom last night" |
| 00:21.44 | Ackis | I core dumped all over your mom last night |
| 00:21.45 | NivFreak | Ackis: pfft, fix imo! |
| 00:21.53 | Arrowmaster | who the fuck does svn update without --ignore-externals |
| 00:22.01 | NivFreak | oh |
| 00:22.03 | NivFreak | that's what you mean |
| 00:22.13 | NivFreak | and shit, now days I would |
| 00:22.18 | NivFreak | :) |
| 00:22.36 | Arrowmaster | with how slow svn is i will never not use --ignore-externals |
| 00:23.17 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Dessa * r4944 Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: update deDE |
| 00:23.25 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: should've waited for that one :P |
| 00:23.40 | Ackis | vhaarr: retag it please! |
| 00:23.42 | Kuja^ | vhaarr: thats what i meant by "im too slow" :) |
| 00:23.44 | vhaarr | lol |
| 00:23.48 | vhaarr | ah |
| 00:23.49 | Funkeh` | I've never seen that person commit before, chances are bigwigs is now broken :P |
| 00:23.58 | Kuja^ | Funkeh`: meh :) |
| 00:23.59 | Ackis | yah that desa is a tool imo |
| 00:24.12 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: it's ok, I pull the revision before it! |
| 00:24.26 | NivFreak | pulled* |
| 00:24.47 | Ackis | Funkeh`: convert bigwigs to use the translation thingy |
| 00:25.14 | vhaarr | windows 7 will be released in .. SIX editions |
| 00:25.19 | NivFreak | or better yet, strip out all thier translations, then do it |
| 00:25.28 | Funkeh` | next you will tell me their wil all be 64 bit right |
| 00:25.38 | vhaarr | "Starter Edition", "Home Basic", "Home Premium", "Professional", "Enterprise" and "Ultimate" |
| 00:25.59 | Ackis | I'll never leave windows vista |
| 00:26.05 | Funkeh` | fuck vista |
| 00:26.06 | vhaarr | I'll never leave linux :P |
| 00:26.11 | Funkeh` | Id dump it for 7 |
| 00:26.20 | Funkeh` | even though I'd dump xp for vista |
| 00:26.20 | Stanzilla | Ackis: he said with the ace3 stuff it will |
| 00:26.27 | vhaarr | apparently you will be able to uprade from XP to 7 |
| 00:26.35 | Funkeh` | Sounds dirty |
| 00:26.38 | vhaarr | yes :P |
| 00:26.40 | NivFreak | no windows upgrade has ever been a good idea |
| 00:26.50 | NivFreak | as is the case for most operating systems |
| 00:26.51 | Ackis | i've never had problems with w |
| 00:26.53 | NivFreak | wipe and start fresh |
| 00:26.55 | Arrowmaster | yeah im moving to linux, not sure if i want to dual boot with xp or 7 for those odd games that you just cant get to run at all in wine or other ways |
| 00:26.55 | Ackis | indows updgrades |
| 00:26.58 | Ackis | fucking cat |
| 00:27.17 | Ackis | i'll never use linux on my main pc |
| 00:27.18 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: I report those games in the winedb and then a few weeks or months later I can usually play it |
| 00:28.40 | vhaarr | we'll get acceleration through virtual machines soon as well though |
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| 00:28.56 | vhaarr | so then we can play windows games through virtualbox or whatever, if necessary |
| 00:29.52 | Arrowmaster | so whats a good linux graphics card solution? nvidia sli or single powerful nvidia |
| 00:30.03 | NivFreak | the later is almost always better isn't it? :P |
| 00:30.12 | vhaarr | yes it is |
| 00:30.19 | vhaarr | even in windows you only benefit from SLI in fullscreen |
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| 00:31.03 | vhaarr | I peaked at 511 FPS in Stratholme today on a 9600GT :p |
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| 00:31.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah but i mean is it worth it to try and get the best single card possible? |
| 00:31.21 | Ackis | i'm at 5 fps because curseclient crashed again and I have 353 instances of it open |
| 00:31.25 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r238 / (2 files in 1 directory): BadBoy: v2.2.1.0 |
| 00:31.28 | Repo | - removed temp Christmas filter |
| 00:31.31 | Repo | - removed gold spam art filter from 2008 |
| 00:31.34 | Repo | - update blacklist email/URL |
| 00:31.35 | NivFreak | Ackis: hahah |
| 00:31.48 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: like I said I'm pleased with my 9600GT, you can get those cheap |
| 00:32.07 | Funkeh` | you have two or one? |
| 00:33.05 | vhaarr | one |
| 00:33.52 | break19 | i want a GTX 285 :) http://www.nvidia.com/object/buy_now_results.html?id=GTX285 |
| 00:34.12 | Funkeh` | I got a little put off by all these new high cards and power usage |
| 00:34.15 | break19 | but.. as my dad used to say.. want in one hand, shit in the other.. see what fills up faster.. |
| 00:34.23 | NivFreak | I bought the GTX285 I think it was? |
| 00:34.29 | NivFreak | or was it 265 |
| 00:34.30 | vhaarr | well you can get a 9600GT fanless these days |
| 00:34.34 | Bruners | Funkeh`: you care about power usage because of? |
| 00:34.42 | NivFreak | it was the one that's basically the reved GTX280, but lower power |
| 00:34.49 | Funkeh` | It costs money Bruners |
| 00:35.12 | NivFreak | yea, I bought the GTX285 |
| 00:35.17 | NivFreak | it was lower power than the older version |
| 00:35.22 | NivFreak | significantly |
| 00:35.25 | Funkeh` | It's also nice to see reviews these days like guru3d take power usage into consideration with the green computing going on |
| 00:35.30 | Bruners | Funkeh`: the only heat source in my room is my computer |
| 00:35.31 | Funkeh` | nice |
| 00:35.45 | Bruners | and myself |
| 00:35.52 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: they had to lower the power usage to fit two GPUs on one card for the new top end |
| 00:36.01 | NivFreak | so if you get the single GPU version, it's lower power |
| 00:36.07 | NivFreak | GTX285 is very nice |
| 00:36.14 | NivFreak | and around $400 USD |
| 00:36.53 | break19 | NivFreak: 295 = drool.. that thing has more vram than my computer has system ram.. and I got a thing against that.. so. lol |
| 00:37.19 | NivFreak | break19: the power req is insane imo |
| 00:37.19 | NivFreak | ;P |
| 00:37.25 | Funkeh` | I thought it has 2gb |
| 00:37.32 | NivFreak | and I imagine the heat is too |
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| 00:38.20 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v2.2.1.0 * r239 : Tagging as v2.2.1.0 |
| 00:38.32 | break19 | Funkeh`: my laptop has 1gig.. my desktop has a gig and a half |
| 00:38.40 | Funkeh` | ouch |
| 00:38.46 | Funkeh` | my laptop has 4gb |
| 00:38.51 | NivFreak | I need to get off my xeon platform |
| 00:39.05 | NivFreak | what are the new intel chips that everyone likes? |
| 00:39.07 | NivFreak | i7 or something? |
| 00:39.17 | break19 | ouch hell.. both of them are about 3 and a half years old. the laptop is maxxed.. the desktop is, as well.. |
| 00:39.37 | Funkeh` | i7 is over my budget |
| 00:39.49 | Funkeh` | Though, I'd like to see a mobile i7 implementation |
| 00:40.01 | NivFreak | $290 USD for a 2.66ghz i7 |
| 00:40.13 | NivFreak | then to $564 for a 2.93 |
| 00:40.13 | Funkeh` | add in the new mb |
| 00:40.14 | break19 | actually.. i think the desktop got a firmware update out that'll let it use the 1gig ddr333 chips or 400 |
| 00:40.14 | NivFreak | wow |
| 00:40.53 | NivFreak | well, it seems like if I'm going to upgrade, I should go to the new platform so I get more than a few months life out of it :) |
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| 00:41.23 | Funkeh` | I won't be upgrading until christmas probably assuming w7 is out by then |
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| 00:42.44 | Funkeh` | awats patiently for a wowace > wowi push |
| 00:42.52 | Funkeh` | That's right, I awat |
| 00:42.56 | Funkeh` | I take that shit and mix it up |
| 00:42.59 | Bruners | what about AMD theese days? |
| 00:43.14 | Funkeh` | They made their cheap alternative to i7 |
| 00:43.20 | Funkeh` | which didn't require a new MB |
| 00:43.31 | Funkeh` | but they are working on the AM3? which needs a new mb |
| 00:44.12 | Bruners | so you need a new mb for i7? |
| 00:44.22 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 00:44.23 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 00:44.31 | Arrowmaster | its a major design change |
| 00:44.34 | Bruners | what chipset is that x58? |
| 00:44.43 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 00:45.14 | break19 | intel sells motherboards.. so -of course- they make you have to get a new motherboard with every cpu upgrade.. |
| 00:45.21 | Arrowmaster | no.... |
| 00:45.37 | Arrowmaster | its a major design change |
| 00:45.43 | Bruners | s478 lasted long |
| 00:45.59 | Funkeh` | They scrapped FSB or something |
| 00:46.01 | Funkeh` | IIRC |
| 00:46.09 | Arrowmaster | the memory controller is now on the processor like AMD |
| 00:46.10 | NivFreak | is MSI still making great motherboards? |
| 00:46.10 | Repo | 10head-count: 03seppyk * r77 / (5 files in 1 directory): HeadCount: |
| 00:46.13 | Repo | - Fixed issue where duplicate whispers were being sent when user has multiple chat frames. |
| 00:46.22 | break19 | Arrowmaster: socket -> slot was a major design change as well.. and they, said "oops. bad idea" and went back to sockets with the very next iteration of the pentium. lol |
| 00:46.23 | Bruners | i never liked MSI |
| 00:46.28 | Repo | 10head-count: 03seppyk 041.5.1 * r78 : Tagging as 1.5.1 |
| 00:46.30 | NivFreak | what's your preference? |
| 00:46.44 | NivFreak | I haven't bought a desktop class motherboard in about 5 years |
| 00:46.48 | Ackis | http://i44.tinypic.com/28tx4js.jpg |
| 00:47.08 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 00:47.12 | Funkeh` | owned |
| 00:47.37 | Ackis | i blame mudkips |
| 00:47.59 | Ackis | [17:42] * @Funkeh` awats patiently for a wowace > wowi push <-- wowace/wowi > wowui |
| 00:48.02 | Ackis | HAH |
| 00:48.09 | Funkeh` | I blame your use of what looks like avg |
| 00:48.15 | Ackis | it is avg |
| 00:48.22 | Funkeh` | then I blame it |
| 00:48.24 | break19 | I kinda like tyan, myself.. but gig's are my fav.. |
| 00:48.40 | Ackis | Funkeh`: what's better than it now a days? :P |
| 00:48.46 | Bruners | Avira |
| 00:49.04 | Funkeh` | avira can kiss my ass |
| 00:49.24 | Avira | kisses Funkeh`s ass |
| 00:49.26 | Funkeh` | don't |
| 00:49.28 | Funkeh` | ffs |
| 00:49.29 | Funkeh` | bitch |
| 00:49.41 | break19 | Avira: I love you |
| 00:49.45 | break19 | lol |
| 00:49.52 | Ackis | too slow Funkeh` |
| 00:49.53 | CrazyBenny | whats better and its free then? :P |
| 00:50.26 | Funkeh` | Rising antivirus 2009 there is a free version with is hips, av, firewall... pretty amazingly complete package |
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| 00:50.36 | Funkeh` | for free is just crazy |
| 00:50.37 | NivFreak | break19: tyan makes desktop class boards? |
| 00:50.54 | Funkeh` | I use good ol nod32 though |
| 00:51.04 | Arrowmaster | i use kaspersky |
| 00:51.13 | break19 | NivFreak: last I checked, which, was, admittedly, a long time ago. :P |
| 00:51.43 | Ackis | i stopped caring about AV when norton started to suck :P |
| 00:52.06 | Bruners | Norton 360 ftw |
| 00:52.07 | taleden | we use nod32 at work, its pretty slick but a bitch to figure out how to configure |
| 00:52.16 | taleden | especially to push configuration and updates to clients |
| 00:52.20 | taleden | but once you figure out, its very powerful |
| 00:52.24 | break19 | norton? yea.. good luck with that. |
| 00:52.39 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 00:52.43 | Funkeh` | norton made a comeback |
| 00:52.45 | NeoTron | I use Avast myself |
| 00:52.52 | Funkeh` | then damaged it by selling their soul to ask toolbar |
| 00:53.01 | NeoTron | avg 8 became craptastic |
| 00:53.17 | Funkeh` | avg swallows everything |
| 00:53.17 | CrazyBenny | yep, avg8 is full of fail |
| 00:53.22 | break19 | NivFreak: in my view, a good, solid motherboard is a good solid motherboard. I don give a flyin ... whether it's classified "desktop" or "server" as long as I can slap my favorite video card in it, its a desktop board :) |
| 00:53.45 | Arrowmaster | ive got 4 different antivirus between the 4 different windows computers in the house |
| 00:53.45 | CrazyBenny | frozen UI everytime it updates itself...joy |
| 00:53.51 | Bruners | http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2009/02/03/what-hardware-should-i-buy-feb-2009/1 |
| 00:54.07 | Funkeh` | http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20090203/ap_on_hi_te/apfn_tec_techbit_ask_symantec |
| 00:54.12 | Funkeh` | have fun with norton there |
| 00:54.15 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 00:54.36 | Funkeh` | pile of bloat, always will be |
| 00:54.47 | HunterZ0 | eww norton |
| 00:55.15 | Funkeh` | taleden, used nod32 for years, I'm a heuristics fan |
| 00:56.01 | Bruners | Funkeh`: do you pay for it? |
| 00:56.07 | Funkeh` | Yeah |
| 00:56.08 | Ackis | Funkeh`: I don't want to install 32 bit stuff I only use 64-bit stuff... is there a nod64? |
| 00:56.11 | HunterZ0 | i looked into nod32 but decided not to use it - can't remember why now. i don't have any issues with AVG, at least not after i turned off all the crap. |
| 00:56.11 | Ackis | snickers |
| 00:56.29 | Funkeh` | Ackis, ofc, there's a 64 bit of every av as far as I'm aware |
| 00:56.36 | Ackis | that was sarcasm |
| 00:56.39 | Ackis | I guess I failed at it |
| 00:56.42 | Funkeh` | you can even download nod32 v4 beta for free |
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| 00:57.14 | Ackis | kolie: http://i44.tinypic.com/28tx4js.jpg :P |
| 00:57.26 | Ackis | Funkeh`: it's not free however... what about performance? |
| 00:57.26 | Funkeh` | I think it's a Kaelten|away issue |
| 00:57.35 | Ackis | he told me to bug kolie about it lol |
| 00:57.40 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 00:57.43 | HunterZ0 | Ackis: :O |
| 00:57.59 | Funkeh` | you're asking if it's expensive on resources? |
| 00:58.10 | Ackis | aye |
| 00:58.11 | kolie | sweet how did you get it to do that. |
| 00:58.18 | Ackis | kolie: I exitted the program |
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| 00:58.24 | Funkeh` | the v3 av uses about 10 meg of ram |
| 00:58.25 | Ackis | right click - exit |
| 00:58.32 | Funkeh` | v4 uses more becuse it's in beta |
| 00:58.36 | Funkeh` | and has new shit |
| 00:58.37 | Ackis | kolie: I'm 2/2 for it doing that lol |
| 00:58.38 | kolie | hmm. |
| 00:59.12 | Ackis | hey it did it again |
| 00:59.16 | Ackis | want me to fraps it? |
| 00:59.16 | Ackis | lol |
| 00:59.18 | kolie | no. |
| 00:59.39 | kolie | does it give an address or stack trace? |
| 01:00.32 | Shefki | It just says "Ackis lol weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" |
| 01:01.04 | Ackis | kolie: check PM |
| 01:01.19 | Funkeh` | "Yet another Ackis fuckup" |
| 01:02.35 | Funkeh` | YAAF Ackis |
| 01:03.24 | Bruners | is there an addon to flash my screen and kill babies when a gm tries to talk to me? |
| 01:03.50 | Ackis | lol Funkeh` |
| 01:04.44 | Ackis | so Funkeh`, we decided norton > all right? |
| 01:05.30 | Funkeh` | pretty much |
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| 01:06.38 | Ackis | i wonder if getting nod32 is worth the effort of uninstalling avg, rebooting and installing nod32? |
| 01:06.59 | Ackis | ~yaaf |
| 01:07.05 | Ackis | :P |
| 01:07.15 | Funkeh` | What would your mother say |
| 01:07.54 | Ackis | Hi, I'm Ackis' mother. |
| 01:08.11 | Repo | 10grid-auto-frame-size: 03CrazyBenny * r46 GridAutoFrameSize.lua: - initial support for showing layouts with pets |
| 01:08.32 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03ananhaid * r4945 Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: BigWigs: |
| 01:08.34 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
| 01:09.41 | Funkeh` | Ackis, No, she would say yes it is |
| 01:09.58 | Funkeh` | Promply followed by "tell funky the money is on the table" |
| 01:10.13 | Repo | 10prescription: 03Starinnia * r90 Prescription.lua: add "Lesser Flask of Resistance" |
| 01:10.23 | Bruners | is the GM chat window protected? |
| 01:12.54 | Repo | 10prescription: 03Starinnia 042.0.5.1 * r91 : Tagging as release 2.0.5.1 |
| 01:14.40 | taleden | I would hope so |
| 01:24.27 | Repo | 10dailies-quest-tracker: 03StingerSoft * r55 / (7 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 01:24.30 | Repo | DailiesQuestTracker: |
| 01:24.33 | Repo | - more fix ruRU |
| 01:24.36 | Repo | - added in enUS locale missing strings and wolk q from DailiesQuestTrackerList.lua |
| 01:24.39 | Repo | - fix missing Deformat-2.0 lib |
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| 01:31.53 | Tinyboom | Ackis: Eset has a Nod32 64bit version, works great, have used it for little over a year now, uses little memory and does not disturb you unless you fuck up and try to download a virus :p |
| 01:33.37 | quiescens | but what if you want to download a virus ): |
| 01:35.35 | Funkeh` | has a simple right click disable |
| 01:36.15 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1471 ARLFrame.lua: ..---...---...---...---...---...---...---... |
| 01:37.24 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r4946 Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: BigWigs: koKR Update |
| 01:37.45 | Zhinjio | got all my cooking recipes |
| 01:37.49 | Ackis | grats |
| 01:38.25 | Zhinjio | got all the mats needed to get the northrend chef now too... |
| 01:41.07 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r240 / (2 files in 1 directory): BadBoy: blacklist update |
| 01:49.40 | Zhinjio | now for dinner impossible. |
| 01:49.42 | Zhinjio | that should be quick |
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| 01:55.49 | Repo | 10dailies-quest-tracker: 03StingerSoft * r56 / (3 files in 2 directories): DailiesQuestTracker: |
| 01:55.52 | Repo | - added missing strings in loc files |
| 02:00.51 | Archarodim | Does someome know why UnitGUID("player") returns nil sometimes? |
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| 02:11.57 | taleden | it does that right when you log in, and sometimes again while zoning I think |
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| 02:18.32 | Repo | 10broker-tradecooldowns: 03Dessa * r55 / (8 files in 2 directories): add deDE skeleton and fix a minor typo in the changlogs |
| 02:18.32 | Bruners | lol, CC crashed here as well |
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| 02:36.09 | Zhinjio | huh, someone committing code in my addon. hmm |
| 02:36.13 | Zhinjio | probably should take a look |
| 02:37.00 | quiescens | run awai |
| 02:37.06 | Zhinjio | uh o |
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| 02:38.03 | Kuja^ | Zhinjio: only localization crap, tested of course :) |
| 02:38.28 | Kuja^ | guess the packager wouldn't pick up the translation when there is no file for it |
| 02:39.22 | Kuja^ | the other changes in the commit are a typo in the changelog (08 -> 09) and adding deDE to the toc |
| 02:40.38 | Zhinjio | great! |
| 02:40.59 | Zhinjio | need to go through and put people in the credits for the most recent translations |
| 02:42.07 | Zhinjio | I need an additional 10 hours in every day |
| 02:42.12 | Zhinjio | so I can actually get some stuff done |
| 02:42.47 | Kuja^ | heh, im working on HitCrit now, but i guess i don't need to commit there since there is a locale file already |
| 02:43.07 | Zhinjio | well, I'll make a tag so it bundles it up |
| 02:44.18 | Kuja^ | i really need a way to use the translation and beeing able to check out from svn, but im too lazy to export my translation from the localizer every time so i can use it, heh |
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| 02:46.14 | Zhinjio | yeah, that is kind of a pain |
| 02:46.31 | Zhinjio | I don't svn right into my wow directory |
| 02:46.35 | Zhinjio | I edit in a working directory |
| 02:46.46 | Zhinjio | and then tag and download a zip into my wow dir |
| 02:47.10 | Zhinjio | since I don't do that for every change, though... I just copy changed files from working dir->wowdir |
| 02:47.15 | Zhinjio | until there's enouigh changes for a tag |
| 02:47.42 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Mad crazy stuff, that. |
| 02:47.53 | Torhal | I fucked up a few times using that method. |
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| 02:49.17 | Zhinjio | *nods* |
| 02:49.39 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Break my new addon. |
| 02:49.40 | Zhinjio | I just got sick of accidentally wiping my working directory with WAU or CC overwriting my stuff |
| 02:49.50 | Zhinjio | volumizer? |
| 02:49.50 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 02:49.53 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 02:49.54 | Kuja^ | i like to keep my addons up to date using svn / git / whatever, as im using no updater (CC dosn't work well with wine and some authers don't want to packe alpha zip :O) |
| 02:49.54 | Torhal | Heh |
| 02:50.12 | Kuja^ | *package |
| 02:50.52 | Zhinjio | it migght be the only thing remaining that I'm any good at, at the moment |
| 02:51.04 | Torhal | Why's that? |
| 02:51.45 | Zhinjio | today I've just been catching shit from all fronts, seems like. |
| 02:51.51 | Zhinjio | makes me want to hide in a hole |
| 02:52.09 | Torhal | But then the hole might catch shit. That would be bad. |
| 02:52.32 | Kuja^ | haha |
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| 03:04.29 | Kuja^ | Zhinjio: speaking of HitCrit: typo in RESETCATEGORY_TOOLTIP Date -> Data |
| 03:11.10 | Zhinjio | thanks |
| 03:12.18 | Zhinjio | fixed |
| 03:27.17 | Torhal | Meh. Lying down. |
| 03:34.21 | Repo | 10broker-reagents: 03Rabbit * r4 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 03:34.24 | Repo | Use local tables instead of PT, which is not close to complete regarding level 80 stuff. |
| 03:34.51 | Kuja^ | finished with HitCrit, bedtime now, nn |
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| 03:38.19 | Zhinjio | thanks again |
| 03:42.44 | TradeMark | I'm a little confused about AceDBOptions... |
| 03:42.55 | TradeMark | supposing I do something along the lines of options.args.profile = LibStub("AceDBOptions-3.0"):GetOptionsTable(db) |
| 03:43.11 | TradeMark | does that mean that options.args.profile is now set to whatever profile the user has configured to use? |
| 03:43.35 | TradeMark | and does that mean I can get settings by doing something like db[options.args.profile].setting ? |
| 03:43.43 | TradeMark | or am I on completely the wrong track :S |
| 03:43.48 | vhaarr | *completely* |
| 03:44.01 | TradeMark | :( |
| 03:44.04 | vhaarr | I suggest you read the tutorial |
| 03:44.15 | TradeMark | I'm reading http://www.wowace.com/projects/ace3/pages/getting-started/#w_using-ace-locale-3-0 |
| 03:44.21 | TradeMark | but it has like a paragraph |
| 03:44.31 | TradeMark | err take off the # at the end |
| 03:44.54 | TradeMark | there a better tutorial somewhere? |
| 03:44.59 | vhaarr | that's the one |
| 03:45.20 | vhaarr | read it more carefully, especially the section on AceDBOptions-3.0 and AceConfig |
| 03:46.24 | linear` | don't try to read info from the options table |
| 03:46.39 | TradeMark | I've read it. |
| 03:46.58 | linear` | to get the profile settings youd do read from db.profile |
| 03:47.19 | TradeMark | I take it AceDBOptions is adding a "profile" group to the options so that it appears in the config interface for the addon |
| 03:47.30 | vhaarr | that's right |
| 03:48.09 | vhaarr | so then afterwards you simply access it like |
| 03:48.12 | TradeMark | alright... so to get settings from the *user-selected* profile, I use db.profile? |
| 03:48.29 | vhaarr | yes |
| 03:48.34 | vhaarr | whatever profile he has selected |
| 03:48.39 | vhaarr | it is accessed by db.profile |
| 03:48.41 | TradeMark | I thought db.profile was a custom-named profile, set with SetProfile / GetCurrentProfile |
| 03:48.48 | vhaarr | whatever char he is on is accessed by db.char |
| 03:48.58 | vhaarr | same with class, realm, race, faction, factionrealm |
| 03:49.03 | vhaarr | and db.global |
| 03:49.14 | TradeMark | yeah I understand db.char and so on, just not entirely sure how AceDbOptions dies in |
| 03:49.17 | TradeMark | ties* |
| 03:49.21 | vhaarr | TradeMark: yes it is, but you access it with |db.profile| no matter what profile is selected |
| 03:49.31 | vhaarr | you just explained it yourself |
| 03:49.37 | vhaarr | <TradeMark> I take it AceDBOptions is adding a "profile" group to the options so that it appears in the config interface for the addon |
| 03:49.39 | vhaarr | that's what it does |
| 03:50.15 | TradeMark | yeah but what I'm asking is... (going off what I've seen when configuring other addons), the "profile" group lets you select from char, realm, race and so on |
| 03:50.34 | TradeMark | does that mean that db.profile COULD be an alias for db.char if the user selected character in that profile group? |
| 03:50.57 | TradeMark | like, db.profile can be an alias for those other presets |
| 03:51.04 | TradeMark | bah I'm sucking at explaining myself |
| 03:51.18 | vhaarr | no it does not mean that |
| 03:51.19 | TradeMark | I'll just use db.profile and hope for the best :P |
| 03:52.18 | vhaarr | thing is that in order for your addon to access the profile used by your other chars, it has to give it some name, so it simply calls it "Name - Server" |
| 03:52.24 | vhaarr | that profile is then accessible from other chars |
| 03:52.38 | TradeMark | what I mean to ask is... supposing the user has selected a profile type (char, realm, etc) from the profile setting produced by AceDBOptions... what is the correct db prefix I should be using for the addon to behave as the user expects (ie. retrive/store information from the profile they specified) |
| 03:52.49 | vhaarr | it's still a profile, not tied to .char, .realm, or any other |
| 03:52.50 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1153 / (3 files in 1 directory): Teach grid the difference between normal and heroic raids. |
| 03:53.03 | vhaarr | you can't change the profile TYPE |
| 03:53.12 | vhaarr | profile IS a type |
| 03:53.32 | vhaarr | and each profile has a name, the name you've seen that makes you confuse it with char/realm/etc |
| 03:53.36 | TradeMark | bah |
| 03:53.36 | taleden | you pretty much always use "db.profile" |
| 03:53.43 | TradeMark | this is really not as clear as it could be |
| 03:53.43 | taleden | the only time you use .char or whatever is if you don't care abotu the user selection |
| 03:53.47 | taleden | and you want to store stuff per char no mtter what |
| 03:53.51 | TradeMark | ok do db.profile |
| 03:53.53 | vhaarr | TradeMark: it's clear, you're just not reading what I'm saying |
| 03:53.54 | TradeMark | so* |
| 03:54.24 | TradeMark | vhaarr: for someone who has never written a wow addon and is reading the few sentences in the tutorial, no it's not clear :P |
| 03:54.31 | vhaarr | so read what I said |
| 03:54.33 | vhaarr | not the tutorial |
| 03:54.38 | TradeMark | yeah |
| 03:54.43 | vhaarr | you seem to be busy typing new questions instead of parsing what I say |
| 03:55.25 | TradeMark | I'm trying to read what you say and put it in a way which I better understand to make sure I have it right, which apparently I don't :P |
| 03:55.37 | TradeMark | but I think I got it now |
| 03:55.54 | taleden | it is confusing in that you can select a "profile" which is named something like "taleden - spinebreaker" or "rogue" or whatever, but those are still in db.profile and not db.char or db.server |
| 03:55.54 | vhaarr | seems like you're concentrating too much |
| 03:56.22 | taleden | for settings that the user can change by changing their profile, its alwayas in db.profile |
| 03:56.30 | taleden | acedb takes care of reassigning that pointer to whatever it needs to be |
| 03:56.39 | TradeMark | ok |
| 03:56.41 | taleden | the only think you use db.char or db.server for is stuff that the user cannot change, and really is per-char or per-server |
| 03:57.04 | vhaarr | the subsection "Persisting data values" under "Using AceDB-3.0 explains it |
| 03:57.10 | vhaarr | " |
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| 04:05.04 | Repo | 10grid-status-party: 03Dashkal 04v0.91 * r34 : Tagging as v0.91 |
| 04:05.07 | Repo | Tested and working. My thanks to Azethoth and kunda for the fix! |
| 04:05.21 | Dashkal | should have done that sooner... |
| 04:06.59 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 04:15.29 | Bruners | are there any level restrictions on taking the portal to Wintergrasp? |
| 04:19.00 | quiescens | don't think so |
| 04:19.33 | Groktar | we were working on immortal last night. 3 wings clear no deaths |
| 04:19.37 | Groktar | get to grobb |
| 04:20.29 | Groktar | bad rogue gets injected, sprints through gas clouds to some spot waaaay on the other side of the room |
| 04:20.37 | Groktar | explodes, and then tries to run back |
| 04:20.46 | Groktar | through the gas clouds |
| 04:21.04 | quiescens | I'm sure they blamed spell detail being too low |
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| 04:23.24 | Groktar | guess who failed the most at fatal attraction in bt |
| 04:38.36 | Zhinjio | awesome |
| 04:38.41 | Zhinjio | just crafted sulfuron hammer for someone |
| 04:38.49 | Zhinjio | who them made sulfuras |
| 04:47.20 | Bruners | cool |
| 04:47.40 | Bruners | Zhinjio: back in the day when stuff was hard to get :) |
| 04:57.15 | Zhinjio | Chef title! |
| 04:57.41 | Repo | 10grid: 03Sayclub * r1154 GridLocale-koKR.lua: -koKR update |
| 04:57.45 | Bruners | congrats |
| 04:58.02 | Bruners | that will be my next project after JC |
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| 05:14.46 | Repo | 10seraphimraidtracker: 03Barret7sc * r14 / (3 files in 1 directory): Added reference to AceSerializer-3.0 |
| 05:14.49 | Repo | Updated sync code to just serialize the database and send it across to help prevent errors. |
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| 05:33.23 | TradeMark | "AceConfigRegistry-3.0.lua:17 Cannot find a library instance of 'CallBackHandler-1.0'"... any ideas? |
| 05:33.53 | TradeMark | have included AceConfig in my embeds.xml, and embeds is the first file in my toc |
| 05:34.05 | End | are you embedding callbackhandler? |
| 05:34.13 | TradeMark | nope... do I have to? |
| 05:34.17 | End | apparently |
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| 05:37.34 | taleden | yes, ace requires libstub and cbh |
| 05:37.52 | taleden | and you have to embed those yourself if you're embedding ace, because a lib embedding a lib is weird |
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| 06:14.58 | dappapp | Hey guys, anyone here care to help me with a few questions regarding an addon im trying to make? :) |
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| 06:17.49 | vhaarr | ~asktoask |
| 06:17.50 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
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| 06:24.25 | dappapp | Argh, Sorry. What I'm trying to figure out is how you actually "get" the CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM strings. Forinstance, I want to access the RandomRoll(1, GetNumRaidMembers()) event so I can actually search it and register the roll outcome. I've looked around, and it seems that you do some kind of if (event == ...) to parse it, but I don't really understand the whole process. |
| 06:27.37 | vhaarr | you mean /roll ? |
| 06:28.37 | dappapp | Yeah, basicly I want to make a simple raid roll system, where I roll /roll 1-SizeOfRaid ... and parse the result and pass it on to GetRaidRosterInfo to determine the winner |
| 06:29.07 | Zyndrome | you could use or look at Xloot |
| 06:29.15 | Zyndrome | XLootMaster or w/e |
| 06:29.26 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:29.32 | vhaarr | there's your addon |
| 06:30.04 | dappapp | nice, but would that display the roll to the raid? |
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| 06:30.20 | dappapp | Or is it an internal random function? |
| 06:30.36 | vhaarr | it's internal, but you don't seem to understand |
| 06:30.49 | vhaarr | the way the raid members are ordered on your screen is not the same way they are ordered on others screens |
| 06:31.23 | vhaarr | so whatever person you actually end up with is irrelevant, since *noone* will be able to confirm if that's number 10 on your screen or not |
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| 06:31.43 | vhaarr | and if your members don't trust you to pick someone at random, I say you've got better things to work on than this |
| 06:31.58 | Bruners | good point |
| 06:32.08 | dappapp | Aha, so it's totally different for all raidmembers? |
| 06:32.12 | vhaarr | yes it is |
| 06:32.24 | Bruners | well, some may have the same setup as you :P |
| 06:32.31 | dappapp | Cause usually when people raidroll, other verify the result |
| 06:32.36 | dappapp | others* |
| 06:32.41 | vhaarr | that's impossible |
| 06:32.44 | Zyndrome | an example from yesterday: GM rolls 5 out of 25, I'm 5th on my list, but someone else was 5th on his, so its not the same |
| 06:32.55 | dappapp | Yes, that I know of |
| 06:33.05 | dappapp | That you're always 5th in your group on your own screen |
| 06:33.09 | Zyndrome | (so close to owning both mounts of Sartharion!) |
| 06:33.40 | vhaarr | dappapp: NOW yes, but the fact that the rest of the raid is the same layout is a coincidence right now, and that *will* change in a future patch |
| 06:33.44 | vhaarr | and soon, at that |
| 06:33.57 | vhaarr | you can't trust that fact |
| 06:34.07 | vhaarr | so treat it like I said, random layout per member |
| 06:34.12 | dappapp | yeah :) |
| 06:34.24 | vhaarr | so then again |
| 06:34.30 | vhaarr | <vhaarr> /script local x = math.random(1, GetNumRaidMembers()); print(UnitName("raid" .. x) .. " wins.") |
| 06:34.32 | vhaarr | there's your addon |
| 06:35.44 | Repo | 10squire: 03Adirelle 04v1.1-beta-4 * r67 : Tagging as v1.1-beta-4 |
| 06:35.46 | Bruners | i think it needs a shiny GUI |
| 06:36.03 | Zyndrome | web 2.0 GUI |
| 06:36.11 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle 04v1.0-beta-1 * r6 : Tagging as v1.0-beta-1 |
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| 06:36.22 | papyros | s |
| 06:36.24 | vhaarr | can probably pack a AJAX'ified StaticPopup into a /script if you're bored |
| 06:36.48 | vhaarr | with a twitter feed and facebook status setting |
| 06:36.53 | vhaarr | ~lart web 2.0 |
| 06:36.53 | purl | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, web 2.0, this won't hurt a bit...." |
| 06:37.09 | quiescens | the raid list is the same except for one difference |
| 06:37.17 | quiescens | you always see yourself as "5th" in your own group |
| 06:37.23 | vhaarr | way to repeat what was just said |
| 06:37.26 | vhaarr | go quiescens |
| 06:37.31 | quiescens | ): |
| 06:37.34 | dappapp | Is it possible to make an itemlink based on mouseover? :p |
| 06:37.42 | vhaarr | mouseover of what? |
| 06:37.44 | quiescens | that's pretty much the only thing that's different isn't it |
| 06:37.48 | dappapp | over an item |
| 06:37.52 | vhaarr | yes |
| 06:37.59 | vhaarr | OnTooltipSetItem gives you the item |
| 06:38.10 | dappapp | Say i use that macro you gave me, but I want to add the item to it, so "player wins [item]" |
| 06:38.33 | quiescens | too hard |
| 06:39.02 | Bruners | do you really care that much about greens/blues? |
| 06:39.11 | vhaarr | it's easy, look at the code for ClosetGnome_Tooltip for some short code on hooking OnTooltipSetItem |
| 06:39.58 | vhaarr | but seems to me you should just stop prancing around and use blizzards need/greed |
| 06:40.07 | dappapp | Hehe |
| 06:40.16 | dappapp | It's for Naxxramas PuGs :) |
| 06:40.22 | vhaarr | and your point is? |
| 06:40.29 | Bruners | just put it on threshold epic |
| 06:40.44 | Bruners | and voila random loot get to random people |
| 06:40.54 | quiescens | ninja the greens and sell them! |
| 06:41.11 | dappapp | Yeah no, I wasnt thinking of raidrolling in that sence, Im trying to make a simple roll distribution system aswell |
| 06:41.19 | vhaarr | yes exactly |
| 06:41.21 | vhaarr | fucking need/greed |
| 06:41.40 | vhaarr | do you NEED this item for your main spec? yes -> click need |
| 06:41.47 | vhaarr | do you want this item for off spec? yes -> click greed |
| 06:41.52 | vhaarr | no + no -> pass |
| 06:41.55 | vhaarr | done |
| 06:42.15 | Bruners | did someone just need on an item they didnt need at all? remove player from group |
| 06:42.31 | dappapp | Yeah exactly, there are some trust issues there |
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| 06:42.41 | dappapp | I've never seen a pug raid using the need/greed system personally |
| 06:42.44 | vhaarr | yes and they go both ways you nitwit |
| 06:42.52 | vhaarr | trust is a two-way thing |
| 06:43.06 | quiescens | nowai |
| 06:43.24 | quiescens | everyone expects you to trust them, but won't trust you |
| 06:43.27 | quiescens | everyone knows that |
| 06:43.30 | Bruners | if someone really ninjas an item they cant even use i bet a GM will sort that matter |
| 06:43.33 | vhaarr | and if someone miss-loots, there's no sense flaming or yelling about it, you simply make a ticket |
| 06:44.56 | Bruners | the biggest issue for all pugs is that loot rules are never stated at the start, rather when item of awesomeness drops |
| 06:45.00 | quiescens | lf4m full 25man t7 to do normal naxxramas plz, pst stats |
| 06:45.25 | quiescens | and achievements! |
| 06:45.44 | vhaarr | Bruners: first I get everyone on VT, then I say firmly "Need an item if you need, greed for offspec, pass for DE and do NOT ask if you can take something, just FUCKING LOOT IT." |
| 06:45.52 | vhaarr | then we pull trash |
| 06:45.53 | quiescens | and maybe a reference from your head of state |
| 06:48.52 | Bruners | vhaarr: got to love it when people as if they can take greens :) |
| 06:48.52 | Fisker- | runs vhaarr over |
| 06:49.12 | Bruners | the cancer that is killing # is back |
| 06:49.16 | vhaarr | over Fisker- runs |
| 06:49.37 | vhaarr | look at me go, weee! |
| 06:50.34 | Fisker- | i hope you manually breathe |
| 06:51.03 | Fisker- | DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH |
| 06:51.03 | vhaarr | you breathe automatically? |
| 06:51.11 | Fisker- | i forgot to do the daily cooking yesterday |
| 06:51.12 | Fisker- | >* |
| 06:51.14 | Fisker- | :( |
| 06:51.25 | vhaarr | ~fail Fisker- |
| 06:51.26 | purl | Fisker-, you Fail! |
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| 07:04.34 | Repo | 10broker-reagents: 03Rabbit * r5 reagents.lua: Add back the text display. |
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| 07:06.39 | Taladris | ckknight: ping |
| 07:06.46 | ckknight | Taladris: pong |
| 07:06.55 | Taladris | Have a minute? |
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| 07:08.15 | Taladris | Our whole guild is using Engulf, but half of them are retards and kept thinking that the (2) next to "Engulf" meant they only had two stacks of the debuff up on the boss. Any way to get that to display the # of stacks somehow? |
| 07:09.02 | Deviad | Hello guys |
| 07:09.16 | Deviad | Can anyone pls suggest me some addons to replace onekeyring and onebank? |
| 07:09.56 | Shefki | Taladris: That's durcyn's addon not ck's |
| 07:10.16 | Shefki | Deviad: I could but what I'd suggest kinda depends upon what you're looking for exactly. |
| 07:10.44 | Deviad | something that shows all of my backpacks at once |
| 07:10.49 | Shefki | If you just want something that shoves everyting one window then there's a bazillion options. If you want something to do sorting I'd suggest TBag-Shefki, ArkInventory, etc... |
| 07:10.51 | Deviad | and does the same for my bank |
| 07:11.01 | Deviad | and that shows a little frame for keyring |
| 07:11.25 | Deviad | storing what I have in my bank to see that without going to the bank |
| 07:11.29 | Deviad | is a plus but appreciated |
| 07:11.36 | Deviad | :) |
| 07:12.08 | Deviad | by storing I meant memorize |
| 07:12.18 | Shefki | Both of those will do what I said. |
| 07:12.27 | Shefki | Other options including Baggins, Combuctor. |
| 07:12.32 | Bruners | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:13.04 | Deviad | not to waste a binding :P |
| 07:13.13 | Shefki | Bruners: Probably to throw stuff away. |
| 07:15.01 | ckknight | Taladris: dunno |
| 07:16.56 | NivFreak | vhaarr: no dice for thaddius charge warning |
| 07:17.00 | NivFreak | unless I had to turn it on by default |
| 07:17.01 | vhaarr | bullshit |
| 07:17.10 | vhaarr | worked in both 25+10 man for me |
| 07:17.11 | NivFreak | vhaarr: I have transcripts for you after raid |
| 07:17.16 | NivFreak | sorry man, don't know what to tell you |
| 07:17.20 | NivFreak | I'll send you the data after |
| 07:17.23 | NivFreak | I just finished the fight |
| 07:18.02 | vhaarr | do you have flash'n'shake turned on and all the options on Thaddius enabled? |
| 07:18.34 | Deviad | arkinventory looks gr8 |
| 07:18.38 | vhaarr | "Polarity changed!" and "Same polarity!" are the messages, and they are only displayed locally, they are not distributed to the raid warning channel |
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| 07:20.18 | vhaarr | NivFreak: /script BigWigs:GetModule("Thaddius"):LocalMessage("Polarity changed!", "Personal", "Interface\\Icons\\Spell_ChargePositive", "Alert") |
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| 07:30.11 | Repo | 10broker-channelwatch: 03Morgalm * r17 / (2 files in 1 directory): Broker_ChannelWatch |
| 07:30.14 | Repo | -fix tooltip nil error |
| 07:30.42 | Repo | 10broker-itemlist: 03Morgalm * r9 / (2 files in 1 directory): Broker_Itemlist |
| 07:30.45 | Repo | -fix tooltip nil error |
| 07:32.34 | Repo | 10broker-itemlist: 03Morgalm 04v1.3 * r10 : Tagging as v1.3 |
| 07:32.57 | Repo | 10broker-channelwatch: 03Morgalm 04v1.7 * r18 : Tagging as v1.7 |
| 07:34.27 | vhaarr | NivFreak: ah grr I changed it after I tested it |
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| 07:36.31 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4947 Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: Bugfix. |
| 07:36.46 | vhaarr | fixed now >< |
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| 07:50.17 | Deviad | Can anyone tell me how to uninstall curseclient? |
| 07:50.31 | Deviad | I dunno why but when I uninstall an addon the addon directory stays in place |
| 07:50.44 | Deviad | So I wanna try if uninstalling and reinstalling fixes this |
| 07:50.50 | Deviad | the game directory is set properly |
| 07:51.11 | Zhinjio | the addon directory is emptied |
| 07:51.19 | Zhinjio | which has the same effect. |
| 07:51.28 | Deviad | ah |
| 07:51.56 | Repo | 10chocolatebar: 03yess * r8 / (2 files in 1 directory): fixed show icons of disabled plugins in options |
| 07:51.57 | Zhinjio | I believe there is a ticket about that issue, but it shouldn't affect the ability to use the client or run wow |
| 07:52.43 | Repo | 10chocolatebar: 03yess 040.2 * r9 : Tagging as 0.2 |
| 07:52.50 | Deviad | No |
| 07:52.54 | Deviad | It is definitively a bug |
| 07:53.03 | Deviad | it happens when you switch from global beta |
| 07:53.06 | Deviad | to global relase |
| 07:53.08 | Deviad | for example |
| 07:53.17 | Deviad | I dunno how to fix this now :\ |
| 07:57.34 | Deviad | OK, I deleted two dirs |
| 07:57.56 | Deviad | in c:\users\username\appdata\local |
| 07:58.06 | NivFreak | vhaarr: haha, ok, I'll try again next week |
| 07:58.17 | Deviad | and now it's actually scanning my addon directory again |
| 07:58.20 | vhaarr | 10man?! >< |
| 07:58.22 | Deviad | it's a bug they should fix it :P |
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| 08:11.07 | NivFreak | vhaarr: so... |
| 08:11.12 | NivFreak | I just died on 25man malygos |
| 08:11.16 | NivFreak | guess why |
| 08:11.17 | NivFreak | :) |
| 08:11.36 | vhaarr | NivFreak: you still get a message in your chatframe genius :P |
| 08:11.46 | NivFreak | but guess why :) |
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| 08:11.57 | vhaarr | because you failed to spot the flash+shake |
| 08:12.01 | NivFreak | btw |
| 08:12.08 | NivFreak | surge of power on WYRMREST SKYTAOLON |
| 08:12.10 | NivFreak | not real useful |
| 08:12.18 | vhaarr | what? |
| 08:12.32 | NivFreak | that's what bigwigs is spamming |
| 08:12.41 | NivFreak | but I fucked up |
| 08:12.42 | vhaarr | ehm |
| 08:12.43 | NivFreak | I relogged |
| 08:12.48 | NivFreak | no transcriptor |
| 08:12.57 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:13.05 | NivFreak | 4809? |
| 08:13.08 | NivFreak | seems wrong |
| 08:13.08 | vhaarr | hehe no |
| 08:13.12 | vhaarr | 4939 |
| 08:13.20 | NivFreak | ah it's seperate |
| 08:13.27 | vhaarr | not in svn it's not |
| 08:13.41 | NivFreak | let me check in a minute |
| 08:13.46 | NivFreak | I pulled the zip from wowace |
| 08:13.52 | vhaarr | I don't care about the damn zips |
| 08:14.23 | NivFreak | well unless you want to tell me specifically |
| 08:14.28 | NivFreak | I don't now how to get the code you want me to test |
| 08:14.31 | NivFreak | other than the standard methods |
| 08:14.36 | vhaarr | grrr for fucks sake, wait then |
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| 08:14.43 | NivFreak | I can pull from svn |
| 08:14.46 | NivFreak | you just have to tell me to :P |
| 08:15.23 | vhaarr | why would you ever do anything different? |
| 08:15.29 | vhaarr | but the zips should work fine, I just checked |
| 08:15.39 | vhaarr | as provided you don't have modules residing in the BigWigs/ folder |
| 08:15.42 | vhaarr | which you probably do |
| 08:15.43 | vhaarr | old ones |
| 08:15.57 | vhaarr | because of some CurseClient fuckup or something, I have no idea |
| 08:16.36 | NivFreak | I wiped the bigwigs folder |
| 08:16.40 | vhaarr | when? |
| 08:16.40 | NivFreak | but I may have a standalone |
| 08:16.47 | NivFreak | right before unziping the zip |
| 08:16.51 | vhaarr | well you have an *old* malygos mod |
| 08:16.55 | vhaarr | somehow |
| 08:16.57 | vhaarr | and don't ask me how |
| 08:17.55 | vhaarr | NivFreak: perhaps you have a BigWigs_EyeOfEternity folder |
| 08:17.56 | NivFreak | BigWigs_EyeOfEternity/ |
| 08:17.57 | NivFreak | yep |
| 08:17.59 | vhaarr | haha |
| 08:18.02 | vhaarr | well that was removed |
| 08:18.07 | vhaarr | and rolled into BigWigs_Northrend |
| 08:18.09 | NivFreak | well it wasn't :) |
| 08:18.14 | vhaarr | it was by me |
| 08:18.16 | NivFreak | nuked it now |
| 08:18.19 | vhaarr | what the CC does I can't control |
| 08:18.27 | vhaarr | or your manual ZIP extractions |
| 08:19.00 | NivFreak | well, I removed every directory contained in the zip :) |
| 08:19.11 | vhaarr | yes well you understand now why that won't work |
| 08:19.16 | vhaarr | NivFreak: that should have produced an error though |
| 08:19.20 | NivFreak | it did not |
| 08:19.21 | vhaarr | "trying to register module again" |
| 08:19.23 | vhaarr | thingy |
| 08:19.25 | vhaarr | okay hm |
| 08:19.26 | NivFreak | or wiat |
| 08:19.27 | NivFreak | well |
| 08:19.28 | NivFreak | ok |
| 08:19.31 | NivFreak | it sort of did |
| 08:19.34 | vhaarr | :P |
| 08:19.47 | NivFreak | [2009/02/04 23:57:54-4291-x1]: BigWigs_Northrend-2.0\Malygos.lua:20: AceLocale(BigWigsMalygos): Cannot provide the same locale more than once. "enUS" provided twice. |
| 08:19.50 | NivFreak | :P |
| 08:20.03 | NivFreak | a bit indirect, but I assume that's why |
| 08:20.20 | vhaarr | yes that's why |
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| 08:32.35 | Repo | 10grid: 03ananhaid * r1155 / (2 files in 1 directory): Grid: |
| 08:32.38 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
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| 08:39.17 | Mikk | 09:36:02 [W:From] [Jeanneyl]: nice to meet u:) |
| 08:39.17 | Mikk | 09:37:15 [Jeanneyl]: Level 1 Human Warrior - Elwynn Forest |
| 08:39.17 | Mikk | 09:37:22 [W:To] [Jeanneyl:1]: i have more gold than you do |
| 08:39.23 | Mikk | lessee if i get a response to THAT then |
| 08:45.07 | vhaarr | Mikk: aren't those things just bots that respond automatically with some gold spam if you whisper them back anything at all? |
| 08:45.14 | vhaarr | I've never actually replied to any of them, so I dunno |
| 08:45.16 | vhaarr | I just assumed |
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| 09:14.43 | Mikk | vhaarr: well, that's what i wanted to find out =) |
| 09:14.49 | Mikk | and apparently, it's a human on the other end |
| 09:15.15 | vhaarr | cool, did you get an intelligent reply? |
| 09:15.24 | Mikk | no, i got nothing |
| 09:15.28 | vhaarr | right |
| 09:15.38 | vhaarr | well it's much less annoying than the spam flooding of trade chat |
| 09:15.46 | vhaarr | a whisper with just a few words, I mean |
| 09:16.14 | Mikk | but when i've brainfarted and said "hi?", i have gotten "yoinks, we haz NNNN gold here, want to buy?" |
| 09:16.19 | Mikk | so yeah, human |
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| 09:20.33 | Fisker- | vhaarr |
| 09:20.35 | Fisker- | nemesis |
| 09:21.12 | vhaarr | Bane of Fisker- |
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| 09:22.29 | Fisker- | y so srs? |
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| 09:27.31 | vhaarr | so I have to fill in this survey right, and I need to use my email and some random password to log in to fill out the survey |
| 09:27.45 | vhaarr | and my email contains a + |
| 09:27.59 | vhaarr | because when I give it out, I say mymail+something@gmail.com |
| 09:28.13 | vhaarr | which enables me to categorize easy + see which ones I give out are the source of incoming spam |
| 09:28.24 | vhaarr | and the surveys login does not support emails with + in them |
| 09:28.29 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 09:28.39 | Fisker- | but is that some gmail shiznit_ |
| 09:28.40 | vhaarr | and .. I must do it today, says my employer |
| 09:28.40 | Fisker- | ? |
| 09:28.42 | vhaarr | no |
| 09:28.48 | vhaarr | it's standard mail, all servers support it |
| 09:29.16 | vhaarr | just most people don't know about it, I do because I've implemented POP3 and SMTP in java a few years ago |
| 09:29.24 | vhaarr | anyway time to go |
| 09:29.35 | Fisker- | damn |
| 09:29.38 | Fisker- | you should explain moar |
| 09:29.41 | Fisker- | or atleast put a link |
| 09:30.21 | Fisker- | That's fucking awesome |
| 09:30.23 | Fisker- | i love you vhaarr |
| 09:30.40 | Fisker- | Now i just have to had known that like 10 years ago |
| 09:30.41 | Fisker- | >* |
| 09:30.42 | Fisker- | :( |
| 09:32.09 | Fisker- | This is the Postfix program at host |
| 09:32.09 | Fisker- | I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not |
| 09:32.09 | Fisker- | be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below |
| 09:32.12 | Fisker- | FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 09:32.29 | Fisker- | so postfix doesn't follow protocol |
| 09:32.35 | Fisker- | highfives self |
| 09:33.01 | vhaarr | come to think of it, you might have to enable a serverside option for it |
| 09:33.16 | omega_ | would be cool if postfix starts responding "This is the postfix program at host. I'm sorry to inform you that your message was indeed delivered to at least one of you recipients" |
| 09:33.21 | Fisker- | Think i'll complain then |
| 09:33.34 | Fisker- | cause that is just awesome |
| 09:33.40 | Arrowmaster | actually not all mail servers support + suffixes, some use - suffixes to do the same effect |
| 09:34.07 | Fisker- | using - is stupid |
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| 09:34.47 | Arrowmaster | its accepted by more stupid forms than + is though |
| 09:34.49 | Fisker- | postfix did neither though :( |
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| 09:34.58 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 09:35.12 | Arrowmaster | which is also stupid since really you can have any characters you want in user portion of an email address |
| 09:35.17 | winkiller | Fisker-: it's a config option |
| 09:35.18 | Arrowmaster | including spaces |
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| 09:35.29 | Fisker- | lalalla i can't hear ya winkiller |
| 09:35.36 | Fisker- | linux is bad linux is bad |
| 09:35.48 | winkiller | (fa@phobos):(~) $ grep delim /etc/postfix/main.cf |
| 09:35.48 | winkiller | recipient_delimiter = + |
| 09:36.23 | Fisker- | Think i'll ask them to support it |
| 09:36.35 | Fisker- | if i ever get through the horde of retards telling me to reset my modem |
| 09:36.45 | winkiller | you could also ask "them" for sexual faours |
| 09:36.53 | winkiller | doubt they'll give in either way |
| 09:36.56 | Fisker- | you're doing it wrong |
| 09:36.57 | Fisker- | faI'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not |
| 09:36.57 | Fisker- | be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below |
| 09:36.59 | Fisker- | fu |
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| 09:37.21 | Arrowmaster | are you trying to send it to yourself to test? |
| 09:37.32 | Fisker- | yes |
| 09:37.40 | Fisker- | bofh, moar like fofh lolol |
| 09:40.00 | Arrowmaster | yeah exim and postfix dont have that enabled by default |
| 09:40.09 | Arrowmaster | sendmail defaults to + |
| 09:40.14 | Arrowmaster | qmail defaults to - |
| 09:42.27 | winkiller | debian/ubuntu-postfix has + as default I think |
| 09:42.47 | Arrowmaster | debian comes with exim by default not postfix |
| 09:42.59 | Arrowmaster | ubuntu uses postfix by default |
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| 09:45.13 | Fisker- | madness |
| 09:46.26 | Mikk | I'm fairly certain Postfix supports name+randomtag with a config option |
| 09:46.37 | Mikk | I know I was using them on my linux box |
| 09:46.49 | Mikk | And I'm 99% certain I was using Postfix |
| 09:47.01 | Arrowmaster | yeah it does |
| 09:47.34 | Mikk | There's also a set of very clued people influencing postfix dev decisions so I'd be very surprised if it wasn't |
| 09:47.35 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 09:47.43 | Fisker- | Windows 7 is awesome |
| 09:47.47 | Fisker- | Office is not so awesome |
| 09:47.54 | Mikk | openoffice.org |
| 09:47.55 | Mikk | gogo |
| 09:47.58 | Fisker- | So i have several documents open because windows 7 is awesome |
| 09:48.22 | Fisker- | but if i want to print out all documents i have to print out the first one first because an dialog box disables all the other windows |
| 09:48.23 | Fisker- | ;E |
| 09:49.51 | omega_ | modal ftw:p |
| 09:50.12 | Fisker- | modal? |
| 09:51.11 | omega_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_window |
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| 09:52.14 | Mikk | I fail to see how it's a problem to do 123 in one window at a time rather than doing 1111111111 in all then 2222222222222 in all then 33333333333 in all |
| 09:52.20 | Mikk | Failsker fails, again |
| 09:52.42 | Fisker- | huh? |
| 09:53.32 | Fisker- | I wasn't saying they shold all be active at once |
| 09:53.46 | Fisker- | just that i should be able to interact in them while a dialog box in the other is open |
| 09:54.06 | Mikk | failing to see the problem still |
| 10:03.08 | Mikk | In other news, "X-LoadOn-Always: delayed" on lots of addons = sex |
| 10:03.33 | Mikk | is testing some stuff locally |
| 10:14.41 | Fisker- | whats so sexleg about it? |
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| 10:16.49 | End | I never actually saw the bit where Colbert went on the O'Reilly Factor |
| 10:17.10 | End | that shit is ridiculuos |
| 10:39.07 | evl | Colbert is my hero |
| 10:47.39 | winkiller | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Baptiste_Colbert ? |
| 10:48.35 | haste | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Colbert seems more likely! |
| 10:49.03 | winkiller | never heard about that one... |
| 10:49.13 | evl | I think this says it all about Stephen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0N0oFQjshQ |
| 10:50.11 | cncfanatics | anyone know if shield effects work on loatheb ? (pw:s, divine aegis), it seems loatheb just ignored them yesterday |
| 10:50.54 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: They do, why wouldn't they? |
| 10:51.09 | cncfanatics | tank lost hp while pw:s was on him |
| 10:51.12 | cncfanatics | at least from what I saw |
| 10:51.15 | Fisker- | a shield saved me yesterday >3 |
| 10:51.17 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 10:52.29 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: The only thing loatheb does is preventing healing effects from working, shields are no healing effects, but a means of preventing damage, so they should work. |
| 10:52.53 | cncfanatics | ok,I'll watch better tonight |
| 10:53.07 | cncfanatics | spamming shields sounds like effective for loatheb then heh |
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| 10:54.37 | Fisker- | i'm like positive |
| 10:54.40 | Fisker- | because i were like |
| 10:54.49 | Fisker- | My seal of blood put me at like 700 hp |
| 10:54.53 | Fisker- | with a dot ticket |
| 10:54.55 | Fisker- | ticking |
| 10:55.10 | Fisker- | and i were like FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU (Got shield and survived with 100 hp) CK YEEEEEEEEEEAH |
| 10:55.42 | cncfanatics | basicly, you failed and a good healer saved you |
| 10:55.44 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: http://wowwebstats.com/rspxuva13nuwc?s=1993-16526&bl=1993&filter=unit%3D%22Grolox%22 |
| 10:56.03 | Fisker- | i was busy trying to rolling righteous vengeance |
| 10:56.18 | cncfanatics | tyvm SunTsu |
| 10:56.20 | Fisker- | also i have better gear so my SoB is more suicidal than usual |
| 10:56.31 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: fail |
| 10:56.41 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: 20:58'33.290 - Pw:S, 20:58'33.908 he absorbs all damage |
| 10:56.58 | Fisker- | pushed 8,4k dps on thaddius |
| 10:57.04 | Industrial | yeah right |
| 10:57.07 | Fisker- | i lol'd at jealous warriors |
| 10:57.11 | Industrial | oh thaddius :p |
| 10:57.25 | cncfanatics | go do that on patchwerk |
| 10:57.25 | cncfanatics | then I'll be impressed |
| 10:57.25 | Industrial | idd |
| 10:57.25 | Industrial | :E |
| 10:57.29 | Fisker- | duh |
| 10:58.00 | Fisker- | can't remember on patchwerk |
| 10:58.17 | Industrial | 4620 was my highest |
| 10:58.18 | Fisker- | i just remember that i'm usually at ~7k dps, warriors at 7,5k |
| 10:58.27 | Fisker- | now i'm at 8,4k and they're still at 7,5k :P |
| 10:59.08 | Fisker- | http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/1383840#damageout |
| 10:59.10 | Fisker- | for example |
| 10:59.19 | Fisker- | 6,1k to 8,4k |
| 10:59.21 | Fisker- | i liek |
| 10:59.29 | cncfanatics | www.fiskerfailonline.com |
| 10:59.47 | Fisker- | http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/1397855#damageout |
| 11:00.08 | Fisker- | gonna see if i can find yesterday's patchwerk |
| 11:00.11 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: Better make www.fiskerfaileverywhere.com |
| 11:00.35 | cncfanatics | ~epic fail Fisker- |
| 11:00.36 | purl | Fisker-, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Fisker-, you are that epic failure. |
| 11:00.57 | Fisker- | well atleast i don't fail as much as Industrial |
| 11:01.25 | Fisker- | http://wowwebstats.com/6zz1azp5j4lkk?s=487952-515410 |
| 11:01.39 | Fisker- | oh and giant a FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUU for serverlag at 30% |
| 11:01.59 | Industrial | nice :) |
| 11:01.59 | cncfanatics | fail |
| 11:02.08 | cncfanatics | I'll be impressed when u do 10k dps |
| 11:02.16 | Fisker- | :( |
| 11:02.41 | Fisker- | i love heigan >3 |
| 11:02.41 | Industrial | wtf at your amges |
| 11:02.43 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 11:02.44 | Industrial | should be on top |
| 11:02.45 | Fisker- | adds and shit |
| 11:02.51 | Fisker- | don't even bother Industrial |
| 11:02.59 | Megalon | you must have a pretty crappy raid |
| 11:03.06 | Megalon | when an ele is 2nd in dmg :S |
| 11:03.18 | cncfanatics | and a pally is top |
| 11:03.21 | cncfanatics | thats the worst of all |
| 11:03.25 | Fisker- | :( |
| 11:03.28 | Megalon | top with 5k dps |
| 11:03.30 | Megalon | :C |
| 11:03.33 | Fisker- | but yeah |
| 11:03.45 | Megalon | Fisker- > his own guild |
| 11:03.46 | Megalon | :/ |
| 11:03.49 | Fisker- | We also had a mage be behind the tank on loatheb |
| 11:03.52 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: are you eu or us, I always forget |
| 11:03.55 | Fisker- | EU |
| 11:04.02 | Fisker- | But the mage didn't get spores |
| 11:04.05 | Megalon | he's from denmark |
| 11:04.07 | Fisker- | so i lol'd |
| 11:04.09 | Megalon | that makes him NORTHPOLE |
| 11:04.17 | Fisker- | VIKIIIIIIIIIIIIIING |
| 11:04.25 | Megalon | lost viking |
| 11:04.30 | Megalon | olaf baleog and erik |
| 11:04.36 | Megalon | which one are you? ;< |
| 11:04.42 | Fisker- | olaf |
| 11:04.44 | Megalon | oh shield, then olaf |
| 11:04.45 | Megalon | ;D |
| 11:05.05 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: leave ur guild, migrate to bdf & join mine |
| 11:05.06 | Fisker- | http://wowwebstats.com/6zz1azp5j4lkk?s=608108-642897 <-haha wtf? |
| 11:05.13 | Fisker- | fuck you cncfanatics :( |
| 11:05.28 | cncfanatics | thaddius doesn't count |
| 11:05.36 | Fisker- | I guess WWS parses out stalagg and feugen |
| 11:05.44 | cncfanatics | I want 10k dps on heigan or patchwerk |
| 11:06.28 | sb|work | Fisker-: http://wowwebstats.com/w662iiyfizvzk?s=143513-168947 :/ |
| 11:06.31 | sb|work | nerf pallys |
| 11:06.53 | cncfanatics | that is a decent raid |
| 11:07.49 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 11:08.11 | cncfanatics | WTB :p |
| 11:08.17 | cncfanatics | we started raiding yesterday >.> |
| 11:08.53 | Fisker- | really wish people would atleast be decent enough to just read 1 page of EJ and then l2rotation |
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| 11:09.15 | sb|work | but our rogue dps sucks there :o |
| 11:09.26 | Fisker- | also l2bossfight a bit |
| 11:09.36 | Fisker- | So you don't have people not getting spores etc. |
| 11:09.41 | sb|work | haha :o |
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| 11:11.19 | cncfanatics | bleh, we did our first loatheb attempts yesterday |
| 11:11.25 | cncfanatics | 1 disc priest, 2 pallies as healing |
| 11:11.27 | cncfanatics | a fcking pain |
| 11:11.46 | sb|work | 25? |
| 11:11.48 | cncfanatics | 10 ofc |
| 11:11.51 | sb|work | :o |
| 11:11.56 | Mikk | tell people to lern2 healthstone + healpot |
| 11:12.16 | cncfanatics | was our very first raid, only had 2 attempts |
| 11:12.36 | cncfanatics | cleared whole spider wing & up to loatheb in plague wing, so I'm happy tbh :p |
| 11:12.38 | SunTsu | CoH is great there. We always tell people to stand close to the tank and have our priest CoH him |
| 11:12.49 | quiescens | CoH is overrated |
| 11:12.49 | Mikk | and yeah the priest should learn to time PoH+CoH+Holy Nova |
| 11:12.59 | Mikk | start casting PoH as the debuff is about to wear off |
| 11:12.59 | quiescens | especially now that they can really only do it once anyway |
| 11:13.04 | cncfanatics | note how I'm a disc priest ^^ |
| 11:13.07 | Mikk | That's 3 big aoe heals going off |
| 11:13.12 | Mikk | Oh, yeah, disc. Ack. |
| 11:13.22 | cncfanatics | doing PoH, penance nova atm |
| 11:13.25 | cncfanatics | works pretty well |
| 11:13.27 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: Yeah, but I still had to say it anyway ;) |
| 11:13.33 | quiescens | we 2 healed it with a disc priest and a druid |
| 11:13.37 | quiescens | disc priest isn't that bad~ |
| 11:13.51 | cncfanatics | we should get him down tonight |
| 11:13.57 | Mikk | And assigning the pallydorks one group each so they can be smart about who they bacon + heal is good |
| 11:13.58 | sylvanaar | i have a disc alt |
| 11:14.23 | Mikk | And make sure the healers get spored too |
| 11:14.28 | Mikk | Crit heals = nummy |
| 11:14.32 | sylvanaar | do shields work when the heal debuff is up |
| 11:14.37 | Mikk | yes afaik |
| 11:14.42 | SunTsu | sylvanaar: Yeah |
| 11:14.46 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar: I asked the same, it seems they do |
| 11:14.51 | sylvanaar | that is so win |
| 11:15.03 | cncfanatics | yea, spam shields when debuff is up |
| 11:15.06 | cncfanatics | spam aoe heals when its not |
| 11:15.14 | Mikk | shield isnt so spammable but yeah :p |
| 11:15.18 | sylvanaar | esp when the shields are for like 6k |
| 11:15.27 | cncfanatics | Mikk: 5 sec cd :( |
| 11:15.31 | Mikk | idd |
| 11:15.32 | sylvanaar | yeah but they last a while |
| 11:15.34 | Mikk | has priest |
| 11:15.35 | cncfanatics | wish they'd remove that already |
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| 11:15.43 | sb|work | Mikk: you dont need holy nova after poh :p |
| 11:15.46 | cncfanatics | 2 cooldowns in a single ability is stupid |
| 11:16.14 | cncfanatics | Inner focus + PoH as disc == partywide bubble |
| 11:16.18 | cncfanatics | gonna use that more tonight |
| 11:16.19 | Mikk | erm making pw:shield spammable on everyone in a group = wrong |
| 11:16.22 | sylvanaar | shields have 3 restrictions (2 cds and a group requirement) |
| 11:16.36 | Mikk | that'd make priests stupidly overpowered |
| 11:16.39 | cncfanatics | Mikk: the debuff is enough tbh |
| 11:16.51 | cncfanatics | spammable shield is only good in a very few select fights |
| 11:17.01 | Mikk | and pvp |
| 11:17.03 | sylvanaar | i cant use shield in WG unless grouped - thats pretty gay |
| 11:17.16 | cncfanatics | in pvp its mostly going to be the debuff ruling it anyway |
| 11:17.28 | SunTsu | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=37896.0 - Power Word: Barrier upcoming |
| 11:17.49 | cncfanatics | let me read that |
| 11:17.51 | Mikk | whoa "Discipline has access to a new talent, Power Word: Barrier. (Think of it as Power Word: Shield for your whole group)." |
| 11:17.56 | sylvanaar | i love underrated specs and classes |
| 11:18.27 | sylvanaar | i have a thing for losers |
| 11:19.08 | Mikk | "Lightning Reflexes – reduced to 3 ranks. In addition to 2/4/6% dodge, this talent now also grants 4/7/10% passive melee haste." <- yoink, love for combat roogles |
| 11:19.24 | SunTsu | Mikk: was about time |
| 11:19.27 | Mikk | idd |
| 11:19.30 | Mikk | they're a bit fail now |
| 11:19.41 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar: same :p I picked disc without even considering holy |
| 11:20.11 | quiescens | another "group only" thing sounds a bit silly |
| 11:20.22 | Mikk | mm gifv more "5 closest" |
| 11:20.51 | Mikk | i sure prefer positioning smartness over group building smartness |
| 11:20.52 | cncfanatics | quiescens: PoH is currently own group only |
| 11:20.52 | sylvanaar | AI Assisted! |
| 11:20.55 | cncfanatics | so that is quite a buff |
| 11:21.06 | quiescens | I mean, the barrier thing |
| 11:21.13 | quiescens | unless they are giving it the same um |
| 11:21.20 | quiescens | treatment |
| 11:21.43 | Mikk | sylvanaar: yeah, skip ones already barriered, obviously |
| 11:21.45 | quiescens | I thought they were trying to blur out the "party in raid" thing |
| 11:21.58 | Mikk | indeed |
| 11:22.12 | sylvanaar | i think some were too techinically challenging to remove |
| 11:22.41 | SunTsu | quiescens: last thing I read was that they are thinking of removing groups in raids at all |
| 11:22.52 | SunTsu | I just can#t find the blue post |
| 11:22.59 | quiescens | that's what I mean |
| 11:23.06 | quiescens | so now they announce these changes for priests |
| 11:23.20 | quiescens | where you can target a specific.. group in your raid with prayer of healing? |
| 11:23.51 | SunTsu | quiescens: No, I don't think that what they mean. I _think_ they mean that with raid == group in mind |
| 11:24.15 | SunTsu | quiescens: Like AMZ with DKs |
| 11:26.58 | SunTsu | At list I wish that they mean it that way, because it made sense, then |
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| 11:43.36 | sylvanaar | someone change Chatter and stop it from producing legacy itemlinks. They should all be CLINK:(type) |
| 11:44.21 | sylvanaar | ill find a link to the spec |
| 11:46.03 | sylvanaar | Items: {CLINK:item:<color in hex>:<item ID and item data - 9 fields>:<item name>} |
| 11:46.19 | sylvanaar | per the current Chatlink 1.4.1 |
| 11:46.46 | sylvanaar | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/chat-link.aspx |
| 11:53.15 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r246 TradeskillInfo.lua: |
| 11:53.19 | Fisker- | aww Mikk |
| 11:53.20 | Repo | - Add recipe information ("Known by", "learnable by", etc.) to crafted item tooltips as well. |
| 11:53.26 | Fisker- | i almost miss being a rogue |
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| 12:00.44 | tamaroth | do you think it would be possible to filter out charge crossing at thaddius to display who was on wrong side ? |
| 12:00.51 | Mikk | why the hell does ChatLink syntax have to be so fidgety |
| 12:01.19 | Mikk | coulda just done something sane like changing "|" to "@" or something and whoopie always works |
| 12:01.32 | Mikk | even with new link types |
| 12:11.19 | Kalroth | tamaroth: Failbot does that already, so yes |
| 12:11.26 | tamaroth | ok |
| 12:11.35 | tamaroth | thanks for tip |
| 12:11.41 | tamaroth | i'll check out that addon |
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| 13:01.56 | Mikk | Humm.. did they change something re: item swapping or can you swap an item at the same time as casting an instant spell still? |
| 13:07.31 | Megalon | item swapping triggers a 1.5s gcd |
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| 13:09.45 | Megalon | you can swap items after casting an instant spell |
| 13:12.08 | evl | my wowace git project when doing "git branch" is listed as "* (no branch)" but I also have a master branch, should I be on the master branch or is there some connection between the two? |
| 13:12.53 | evl | *curseforge |
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| 13:22.54 | Mackatack | nevcairiel: Ping |
| 13:24.04 | Kalroth | ERROR: Ping timeout. |
| 13:26.00 | Fisker- | Ping |
| 13:28.05 | Shot | grr |
| 13:28.35 | Shot | i updated a few addons, and now i'm getting another tooltip under the default one for every item - just showing 48hr deposit cost :/ |
| 13:29.22 | Shot | i've tried searching every addon i can think of for relevant options and can't find anything, and i've even tried searching file contents of my addons dir, can't find anything matching the tooltip text :/ |
| 13:31.32 | Shot | i get the feeling that windows isn't going into all subfolders |
| 13:32.39 | haste | just disable half you add-ons - test - repeat |
| 13:32.58 | mitch0 | (disable the other half at the "repeat" stage :) |
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| 13:33.17 | haste | that depends on the find! |
| 13:34.05 | mitch0 | nah, it's always in the other half |
| 13:35.02 | Fisker- | i hate you haste |
| 13:35.19 | haste | Your hate is inverted |
| 13:35.19 | Fisker- | btw Mikk share your addon testing |
| 13:35.45 | Fisker- | i'm manually hating you |
| 13:37.00 | Mikk | evl: read up on how git works. branches can be hosted anywhere. |
| 13:37.12 | Mikk | locally for you, or on the cf server |
| 13:37.23 | evl | yes I know but how can I locally be on no branch? |
| 13:37.45 | Mikk | THAT i leave to someone else to answer. git does my head in and seems like total overkill for addons >:< |
| 13:38.13 | Kalroth | git for gits, svn for casuals! |
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| 15:21.31 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.6.3.2-1-g0826072 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] try new aura-fix |
| 15:24.12 | Mackatack | ckknight: i have some problems with LibTalentQuery not correctly detecting events for my target units and i have a fix for it... How would i submit this fix, since the project is abandoned? |
| 15:27.43 | Mackatack | anyone else know how to revive an abandoned project? |
| 15:27.54 | Mackatack | or inactive rather |
| 15:29.33 | ckknight | Mackatack: what's the issue? |
| 15:31.01 | Mackatack | well, LibTalentQuery doesn't detect talent events for 'target' |
| 15:31.02 | Mackatack | because of an error in the NameToUnitID() function |
| 15:31.28 | Mackatack | i would like to submit a fix, but the project is inactive |
| 15:32.11 | Mackatack | i saw in the changlogs that you and nevcairiel worked on it for a while |
| 15:32.25 | ckknight | that's irrelevant, it being inactive is of no consequence |
| 15:32.50 | Mackatack | ok, so i can just make a ticket and someone will pick it up? |
| 15:33.12 | nevcairiel | probably not =P |
| 15:33.24 | ckknight | it's an open repo |
| 15:33.24 | Mackatack | hehe :P |
| 15:33.44 | Mackatack | it is? i asked for password when i tried to commit |
| 15:33.49 | Mackatack | *it |
| 15:33.55 | nevcairiel | you always need to login |
| 15:34.17 | Mackatack | yeah, when i tried to i got blocked :P |
| 15:34.18 | ckknight | there still has to be accountability |
| 15:34.25 | ckknight | we can't have anonymous commits |
| 15:36.05 | Mackatack | ofc ;) ok, i probably have some clientside issues then |
| 15:36.22 | Kalroth | ckknight: Poor excuse for big brother'ing! |
| 15:36.35 | jnwhiteh | Mackatack: you just have to put in your password |
| 15:36.45 | jnwhiteh | you'll be able to commit, just set up your authentication |
| 15:36.51 | Kalroth | I don't see a problem with anonymous people updating addons, nothing at all! |
| 15:36.59 | ckknight | Kalroth: double-plus ungood. |
| 15:37.55 | Mackatack | jnwhiteh: ofc i tried to... im not a complete idiot :P |
| 15:38.10 | Mackatack | wel.. |
| 15:38.13 | Mackatack | :P |
| 15:38.43 | jnwhiteh | I didn't say you were, but not sure how familiar you are with the system, sorry |
| 15:38.47 | Anaral | Why aren't all projects listed in the Curse Client? I wanted to download EveryQuest, which is on WoWAce and Curse, but doesn't show up when I search. |
| 15:39.22 | nevcairiel | @project every-quest |
| 15:39.23 | Repo | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/everyquest/. EveryQuest. Game: WoW. kandarz (Manager/Author). Updated: 53 days ago. Tickets: 3/8 |
| 15:39.37 | Mackatack | mind if i also strip out some embedded libraries from LibTalentQuery that should have been included through the .pkgmeta but are in the repo atm? |
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| 15:39.58 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 15:40.03 | Anaral | Aye, I know the link nevcairiel, was just curious why it isn't showing up on Curse. |
| 15:40.10 | nevcairiel | I just wanted the link to check |
| 15:40.13 | Anaral | on Curse Client |
| 15:40.13 | nevcairiel | so i can double click |
| 15:40.14 | nevcairiel | ! |
| 15:40.31 | nevcairiel | Anyway, i see it in Curse Client |
| 15:40.37 | nevcairiel | using the RC1 |
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| 15:41.11 | Anaral | nevcairiel: Though it'd be nice if you'd update EveryQuest with the newer quests. ;) |
| 15:41.18 | nevcairiel | why me? |
| 15:41.33 | nevcairiel | You do it, imho |
| 15:41.42 | Anaral | Er, read the @project response wrong. Sorry, nevcairiel |
| 15:41.50 | AckisWork | why not you nev? |
| 15:41.59 | nevcairiel | because i'm lazy |
| 15:42.08 | nevcairiel | and i care more about that cookie in front of me then that addon |
| 15:42.14 | Anaral | lol |
| 15:42.22 | Grum | steals the cookie. |
| 15:42.28 | AckisWork | hah no cookie now |
| 15:42.30 | nevcairiel | NOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo.......... |
| 15:42.37 | Anaral | AckisWork: So, I take it from commit 1470, you'd prefer I didn't use the SVN to get ARL? ;) |
| 15:42.54 | Grum | puts a postit on the cookie and gives it back to nevcairiel |
| 15:43.23 | AckisWork | Anaral: lol it's ok, it's just a message saying "libraries aren't svn externaled, get em yourself" |
| 15:43.30 | Bruners | what addons could make the minimap tracking button stop working ? |
| 15:43.32 | Anaral | Ah |
| 15:43.47 | Grum | any minimap related addon |
| 15:44.06 | Anaral | Bruners I've yet to find an addon that does... But as Grum said, any one of them |
| 15:44.36 | nevcairiel | anyway Mackatack; LS and CBH should be included in the repo, not with .pkgmeta |
| 15:44.38 | Grum | probably a very old addon |
| 15:44.58 | Bruners | he is using SexyMap so it should work |
| 15:45.28 | Grum | then make him debug it the 'hard way'; install acp or ncp or whatever addon managing program and start turning of half of the addons till it works again :) |
| 15:45.43 | Anaral | lol |
| 15:46.01 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: update everyquest yet? |
| 15:46.06 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 15:46.09 | nevcairiel | but not sharing |
| 15:46.15 | Anaral | Of course, I log in just when the server is going to be restarted in 15 minutes. |
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| 15:46.36 | Anaral | Bah, so I read the stupid bot wrong, so sue me. :p |
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| 15:46.54 | nevcairiel | sues Anaral |
| 15:46.55 | AckisWork | ~sue Anaral |
| 15:46.56 | purl | ACTION files 50 lawsuits in 50 states against Anaral, all in violation of Rule 11 |
| 15:47.02 | AckisWork | ~rule11 |
| 15:47.02 | purl | Rule 11 states that a filing an action certifies that (1) it is not for any improper purpose (e.g., to harass, cause unnecessary delay, or needlessly increase the cost of litigation); (2) claims are warranted by existing law or by a non-frivolous argument to change/make new law; (3) the contentions are supported by the evidence; & (4) the denials of facts are based on evidence/are reasonably based on belief/information |
| 15:49.07 | AckisWork | anyone here play wow mini's? :P |
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| 15:55.04 | Repo | 10libtalentquery-1-0: 03mackatack * r53 / (4 files in 3 directories): LibTalentQuery-1.0: |
| 15:55.07 | Repo | - Fixed detection of target unit INSPECT_TALENT_READY events |
| 15:55.20 | Mackatack | finally ;) |
| 15:56.20 | Dark_Elf | now to find an addon that uses it |
| 15:56.56 | Mackatack | Mine will ;) |
| 15:57.55 | nevcairiel | Mackatack: didnt i just tell you to not delete the libraries? |
| 15:57.57 | nevcairiel | jeez |
| 15:58.25 | Mackatack | ow, sorry. thought you were talking to someone else :P |
| 15:58.30 | Mackatack | ill readd them |
| 15:58.46 | nevcairiel | (16:44:28) (@nevcairiel) anyway Mackatack; LS and CBH should be included in the repo, not with .pkgmeta |
| 15:58.52 | nevcairiel | Am i not obvious enough? =P |
| 15:59.12 | Mackatack | completely missed that :( /shame |
| 15:59.51 | Anaral | Kaelten: Grats on the CurseClient RC1! It's great. May still have a few quirks, but overall, an awesome job. :D |
| 16:00.07 | Kaelten | :) |
| 16:00.27 | Dark_Elf | hmm Cowtip and Pitbull use it, so i guess when it gets readded i can run off and test it lol |
| 16:01.22 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: you should really show a changelog of the client on update |
| 16:01.49 | Kaelten | yeah I agree |
| 16:02.07 | Repo | 10libtalentquery-1-0: 03mackatack * r54 / (6 files in 3 directories): LibTalentQuery-1.0: |
| 16:02.11 | Repo | - Readded libraries |
| 16:02.11 | Anaral | Aye, I was thinking that, earlier. :) |
| 16:02.39 | Mackatack | Again, sorry nevcairiel. Would you mind explaining why these libs should be included this way? |
| 16:03.23 | nevcairiel | Because libs should not depend on other libs |
| 16:03.41 | ckknight | LibStub and CallbackHandler-1.0 are "special", Mackatack |
| 16:04.18 | Mackatack | :P So if i create a library that would require LibTalentQuery i should just add it to the repo? |
| 16:04.32 | nevcairiel | no, you should not do such a thing in the first place, imho |
| 16:04.36 | Dark_Elf | needed for standalone |
| 16:05.17 | nevcairiel | However, LibStub and CBH are special as ckk says, they're not considered real standalone libraries, so we came up with the convention to keep them embeded into other libs that use them |
| 16:05.27 | Mackatack | ok |
| 16:05.32 | nevcairiel | mostly because they are really tiny too, and don't cause any noticeable disadvantage |
| 16:06.24 | quiescens | speshul |
| 16:06.38 | Mackatack | ok, so about my lib requiring other libs than ls and cbh, use .pkgmeta for that? |
| 16:07.01 | Fisker- | My mouse was in the mail |
| 16:07.06 | nevcairiel | sure, but i still don't recommend writing libs that require other libs like that |
| 16:07.07 | Fisker- | son... |
| 16:07.09 | Fisker- | i am disappoint |
| 16:07.39 | nevcairiel | and btw, meh @ druid 3.1 changes |
| 16:07.43 | nevcairiel | only mostly feral crap |
| 16:08.32 | Fisker- | I AM DISAPPOINT |
| 16:08.48 | Fisker- | true story infact |
| 16:09.07 | nevcairiel | they dont even have paladin changes yet |
| 16:09.18 | Fisker- | i'm smelling nerfs |
| 16:09.26 | Fisker- | though it could be nice with some buffs |
| 16:09.28 | Fisker- | we need them |
| 16:09.29 | quiescens | where are you reading the druid changes? |
| 16:09.33 | nevcairiel | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/14910422662-upcoming-class-change-highlights-part-2.html |
| 16:10.11 | Mackatack | nevcairiel: why reinvent the wheel? :P LibTalentQuery does exactly what i need, my library caches the talent specs so other addons can share that info |
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| 16:10.35 | Mackatack | among other things ;) |
| 16:10.36 | nevcairiel | Like there will ever be more then one addon querying for that info |
| 16:12.08 | nevcairiel | I would make it an addon, like the original MobHealth .. if its present use cache data, if not, use whats available |
| 16:12.38 | Mackatack | im afraid there will be, unitframes show the cached spec of your target, adding talentspec to the guildroster window or even party/raid window and whut not. |
| 16:12.40 | Mackatack | hmmm |
| 16:13.24 | Mackatack | should something that only provides an API be called an addon? |
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| 16:15.52 | nevcairiel | You're kinda expecting alot of stuff for your thing thats not even done yet :P |
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| 16:16.40 | Mackatack | It's in alpha phase yeah, but very much functional |
| 16:16.43 | durcyn | Taladris: it's not possible to determine which debuff on malygos is ours with the current UnitDebuff API, and it's not possible to determine whose debuffs fall off via the combat log, so, in short, no. |
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| 16:17.45 | Gnarfoz | ~seen mojosdojo |
| 16:17.49 | purl | i haven't seen 'mojosdojo', Gnarfoz |
| 16:17.49 | Gnarfoz | ~seen dessa |
| 16:17.50 | purl | dessa <n=kvirc@e178086206.adsl.alicedsl.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 107d 4h 59m 32s ago, saying: 'sylvanaar: http://www.wowace.com/projects/prat-3-0/tickets/15-prat-3-only-works-with-en-us/ <- i can confirm that is fixed btw'. |
| 16:18.00 | Gnarfoz | :[ |
| 16:18.06 | AckisWork | Gnarfoz: dess == kuja |
| 16:18.18 | Gnarfoz | I see |
| 16:18.30 | Gnarfoz | curse usernames vs. wowace usernames still annoys :P |
| 16:18.48 | Gnarfoz | one day, renames will come :D |
| 16:19.10 | nevcairiel | you don't like your name? |
| 16:20.21 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I don't like my curse username which is from curse-gaming.com v1 "back in the day" :P |
| 16:20.28 | durcyn | you mena like http://www.wowace.com/request-name-change/ or something, gnarfoz |
| 16:20.41 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: well, yes. but there's a catch, you know? |
| 16:20.47 | nevcairiel | Your own fault to use such a "1337" name :P |
| 16:21.03 | durcyn | i don't think it's gonna get much better than that, man. |
| 16:21.11 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: indeed, but how would I have known that curse names will get precendence :p |
| 16:21.27 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: the catch I'm reffering to is: the requests are not being processed, at all ;) |
| 16:21.47 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: I even had ckk modify the form on that page so that I could actually input my curse username, because under the current rules, it's not valid :P |
| 16:22.19 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I have faith \o/ |
| 16:22.22 | Kuja^ | Gnarfoz: Dessa is registered here :/ |
| 16:22.28 | Kuja^ | Gnarfoz: whats up? |
| 16:22.31 | nevcairiel | just yell at Kaelten more to send some goon do the renaming |
| 16:22.53 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: nah, no yelling, he's got enough on his plate, I figure ;) |
| 16:22.53 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: curse should get interns for grunt work =P |
| 16:23.27 | Gnarfoz | Kuja^: nothing really, was just looking up who was having a revert war w/ BigWigs' Kel'Thuzad deDE module ^^ |
| 16:23.56 | Kuja^ | must have missed that :o |
| 16:24.06 | Funkeh` | you're dessa? |
| 16:24.13 | Kuja^ | yarr |
| 16:24.33 | Gnarfoz | yeah, someone else half-reverted your change to KT deDE |
| 16:24.39 | Gnarfoz | but it's fine like it is now ;p |
| 16:24.54 | Gnarfoz | it was wrong before, you fixed it, he just removed the awkward "Event" from the sentence |
| 16:25.27 | Kuja^ | i just thought it looks a bit retarded without that "Event" but meh :) |
| 16:25.32 | Gnarfoz | it's not good german either way, but I'm too lazy to think of a "feels good" solution ;p |
| 16:25.51 | nevcairiel | I will always think the german translation feel bad |
| 16:25.54 | nevcairiel | but what can you do |
| 16:25.55 | Gnarfoz | yeah, now it's basically saying that you started Kel'thuzad, which doesn't make sense :P |
| 16:26.02 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: ACK ;p |
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| 16:26.21 | nevcairiel | what do other fights call it? |
| 16:26.41 | nevcairiel | %s angegriffen! .. instead of gestartet .. oh well |
| 16:26.53 | nevcairiel | ~x de en engaged |
| 16:26.58 | nevcairiel | er |
| 16:27.03 | nevcairiel | ~x en de engaged |
| 16:27.05 | Gnarfoz | the problem is that you're not engaging Kel'thuzad until p2 |
| 16:27.16 | Gnarfoz | and that's failbelfish again |
| 16:27.18 | nevcairiel | meh the english still says engaged |
| 16:27.24 | AckisWork | ~x en de nine |
| 16:27.25 | Kaelten | heh |
| 16:27.25 | nevcairiel | and its fine, imho |
| 16:27.33 | AckisWork | nein, neun... sheesh |
| 16:27.39 | Gnarfoz | yeah, like I said, it's good enough :P |
| 16:27.43 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: wut |
| 16:27.50 | AckisWork | goes back to facebook games |
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| 16:27.58 | Kuja^ | nevcairiel: well, you are right, but thats not a good reason for me to make it worse :) |
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| 16:28.36 | Gnarfoz | @project big-wigs |
| 16:28.37 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/big-wigs/. BigWigs Bossmods. Game: WoW. funkydude (Manager/Author), Rabbit (Author), Ammo (Author). Updated: 8 hours ago. Tickets: 12/21 |
| 16:29.15 | Funkeh` | caebook is selling out |
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| 16:29.19 | Gnarfoz | meh, that should probably tagged again very soon, seeing how the Thaddius polarity warn wasn't working in the release ver ;D |
| 16:29.20 | Funkeh` | facebook |
| 16:29.42 | nevcairiel | it was tagged yesterday |
| 16:29.47 | Gnarfoz | I am aware |
| 16:29.54 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr fixed it afterwards ;) |
| 16:29.54 | Funkeh` | He is aware |
| 16:30.03 | Groktar | levelling ret paladin is win |
| 16:30.07 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 16:30.09 | Groktar | 3 hours for 78 |
| 16:30.14 | Groktar | on pace for 4 for 79 |
| 16:30.34 | Gnarfoz | goes back to the german clone of facebook :p |
| 16:30.43 | nevcairiel | stupid social network sites |
| 16:30.46 | nevcairiel | should all die |
| 16:30.58 | Gnarfoz | I totally agree |
| 16:31.05 | Gnarfoz | they are worse than WoW :p |
| 16:31.06 | dodga | stasiVZ? :P |
| 16:31.09 | Gnarfoz | yup. |
| 16:31.15 | dodga | ze bescht :> |
| 16:31.21 | Gnarfoz | meinVZ actually, but they're all the same |
| 16:31.27 | nevcairiel | i'm even signed up on that |
| 16:31.31 | nevcairiel | but i go there like once a year |
| 16:32.52 | steev | Groktar: the only issue is... you're still a ret pally :-P |
| 16:33.24 | Groktar | lolk |
| 16:33.26 | Groktar | *lol |
| 16:33.38 | Groktar | levelling it for a friend |
| 16:33.49 | Groktar | i really should turn off the gladiator title |
| 16:33.50 | Gnarfoz | dodga: fucking domain squatters, too. all relevant stasivz domains are taken, but none have an actual page up :\ not even one poking fun at the real ones ;p |
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| 16:33.53 | Groktar | i think it's getting me ganked |
| 16:34.29 | AckisWork | friend requests Gnarfoz, nevcairiel and Funkeh` |
| 16:34.35 | dodga | Gnarfoz: I'd like to quote Bob Kelso on that one: "Bitches, huh? What'ya gonna do." |
| 16:34.46 | nevcairiel | AckisWork: I'm not your friend :P |
| 16:34.48 | Gnarfoz | dodga: all to the same guy, actually. heh. |
| 16:34.50 | steev | Gnarfoz: thats because there's no need to poke fun at "social networking sites" - they do it themselves quite easily |
| 16:34.54 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: really? |
| 16:35.03 | nevcairiel | I hate you, don't you remember? |
| 16:35.07 | AckisWork | no |
| 16:35.08 | Gnarfoz | steev: but "stasivz" is such an awesome play on words :\ |
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| 16:35.09 | AckisWork | I forget |
| 16:35.13 | AckisWork | remind me? |
| 16:35.27 | steev | Gnarfoz: i dont' speak ze german so i don't know how that works :( |
| 16:35.35 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: I would totally accept that request, if you somehow managed to actually send me one. :p |
| 16:35.41 | AckisWork | haha |
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| 16:36.01 | AckisWork | there's actually a curse group on facebook... I has a couple curse peeps and Zhinjio on my list |
| 16:36.30 | nevcairiel | I bet gnarfoz saw the 25c3 talk about social networking |
| 16:36.45 | dodga | there are several guild/raid/realm groups on studiVZ :o |
| 16:37.01 | dodga | it's funny to see the faces to the people on ones realm |
| 16:37.31 | dodga | even more fun if the retards that spam the realm forum do their same retardedness in the social networking groups forum :o |
| 16:38.48 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: nerdvz.de is mine :> |
| 16:38.56 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: I'm aware |
| 16:39.01 | Stanzilla | orly? |
| 16:39.15 | dodga | "coming soon" |
| 16:39.17 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 16:39.23 | dodga | I could bet that is the most used "sentence" on the web |
| 16:39.49 | Gnarfoz | steev: :P Stasi was the colloquial abbreviation for the GDR's (east germany between 19whatever and 1990) MfS, Ministerium für Staatssicherheit (Ministry for the Security of the State; pretty much like U.S. Homeland Security :P) - they are probably one of the worst instances of ... fuck I spent 4 minutes now to think of a translation for "Geheimdienst" :p |
| 16:40.08 | dodga | secret service!11 :P |
| 16:40.10 | Stanzilla | we had something planned for that but studivz started suing people with those domain names and similiar sites |
| 16:40.20 | Megalon | Stanzilla: than be rdy for being sued if you put a page up on that domain :p |
| 16:40.26 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 16:40.27 | Gnarfoz | Secret Service is an own name in the U.S. though, so it's not an appropriate translation |
| 16:40.36 | steev | secret police |
| 16:40.42 | Stanzilla | Megalon: like I said..thats what stopped us |
| 16:40.47 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: no basis, really, if the page is not a social networking site ;) |
| 16:40.51 | nevcairiel | GDR? is that english for DDR? |
| 16:40.55 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: yes |
| 16:40.59 | nevcairiel | i see |
| 16:41.02 | Megalon | german democratic republic |
| 16:41.07 | nevcairiel | never thought about it, tbh :P |
| 16:41.09 | dodga | Stanzilla: Dude, your studiVZ profile is totally empty :P |
| 16:41.10 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 16:41.13 | Megalon | cpt. obvious strikes :P |
| 16:41.34 | Stanzilla | dodga: I already forgot that I have one :p |
| 16:41.43 | nevcairiel | wikipedia also lists "Großdeutches Reich" for GDR, ha |
| 16:41.49 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: rofl ;p |
| 16:43.00 | Gnarfoz | steev: anyway, to complete the play on words, you have a group of social networking sites, where you (can) willingly offer minute details about your personal life, StudiVZ, MeinVZ and SchülerVZ, two of which already start with an S -... well it's probably clear now but also probably still is only funny to Germans. :p |
| 16:43.37 | quiescens | my baggins randomly decides to stop showing my empty bag slots ): |
| 16:43.41 | nevcairiel | I guess all stasi jokes are limited to us |
| 16:43.41 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: also, I didn't, because the FeM took some time and I haven't yet bothered to grab a full mirror of the conference recordings. I should probably do that some time now, I heard they're all done by now. :) |
| 16:44.05 | Megalon | well, stasivz just states what those sites are about |
| 16:44.10 | Megalon | getting all your data |
| 16:44.10 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: yeah... Gestapo however, that one was more well known :> |
| 16:44.49 | Gnarfoz | I should get geekvz.de :p |
| 16:44.50 | nevcairiel | I watched most of the recordings, some really good talks |
| 16:45.01 | Stanzilla | :P |
| 16:45.03 | Gnarfoz | to accompany my holiday blog/domain for my server :D |
| 16:45.09 | Gnarfoz | which is probably in my hostmask :p |
| 16:45.20 | Gnarfoz | oh wait, got a vhost :O |
| 16:45.23 | nevcairiel | you're cloaked |
| 16:45.24 | Gnarfoz | nevermind :P |
| 16:45.38 | Gnarfoz | easy enough to figure out from nick + realname ^^ |
| 16:46.11 | Stanzilla | Edmund "Gnarfoz" Stoiber |
| 16:46.19 | thul | haha |
| 16:46.19 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: close, but no cigar. ;p |
| 16:46.41 | Arrowmaster | damnit i had to go and login to facebook since a friend made an account and added me |
| 16:46.50 | dodga | 82 hits for Gnarfoz' real name :o |
| 16:47.10 | dodga | cba to go through that :P |
| 16:47.23 | Gnarfoz | add the nickname, silly goose ;) |
| 16:47.35 | steev | http://bipolarchick.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/yes-we-cannabis1.jpg |
| 16:48.08 | Stanzilla | oh god |
| 16:48.26 | Stanzilla | I just found early pics of the planned nerdvz site |
| 16:48.29 | Stanzilla | damn ugly :( |
| 16:48.36 | dodga | Gnarfoz: I meant on VZ :> |
| 16:49.00 | dodga | though Google hinted me to your blog :D |
| 16:49.02 | Gnarfoz | dodga: ah... Hannover & meinVZ (can you see what VZ I'm on in the search results? not sure) |
| 16:49.28 | dodga | Gnarfoz: studiVZ tells me it found 82 hits at other universities or meinVZ |
| 16:49.35 | Gnarfoz | ah well |
| 16:49.48 | Gnarfoz | should be able to limit it to meinvz, but meh. |
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| 16:50.38 | dodga | lulz found you |
| 16:50.38 | Gnarfoz | also I'm quite annoyed that there's actually a guild group for my guild, but it's pre-meinvz and I have no clue who leads it, so I can't tell 'em to push the button (tm) to make it open for meinvz, too |
| 16:50.48 | Gnarfoz | pic = ugly, heh |
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| 16:51.37 | dodga | I'm not into guys, so I couldn't care less :P |
| 16:52.56 | Gnarfoz | xD |
| 16:53.03 | Gnarfoz | good point |
| 16:55.00 | Gnarfoz | meh, geekvz is also taken, I'm late apparently |
| 16:55.07 | Gnarfoz | (who'd have thought that) |
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| 16:56.42 | Kuja^ | Gnarfoz: a friend of mine has nerdvz :P |
| 16:57.20 | steev | god i want an nvidia ion board |
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| 16:58.07 | Gnarfoz | Kuja^: that'd be Stanzilla then? :p |
| 16:58.45 | Stanzilla | Kuja^: haha .P |
| 16:58.46 | Gnarfoz | yeah, since *he* is connecting from irc.kuja.in ;p |
| 16:59.15 | Gnarfoz | (and he pointed it out 20mins ago (I was aware, though ^^)) |
| 16:59.19 | steev | what is vz? |
| 16:59.23 | Stanzilla | verzeichnis |
| 16:59.29 | Gnarfoz | -> directory |
| 16:59.34 | steev | ahh |
| 16:59.45 | Repo | 10nauticus: 03Drool * r131 / (3 files in 2 directories): - bump version for release |
| 16:59.48 | Repo | - update frFR |
| 17:00.49 | SunTsu | steev: smth. nobody in his sane mind wants to use |
| 17:00.52 | Gnarfoz | studivz = directory of students (in german, that's university students; not to be confused with pupils, schülerVZ targets those. ;p -- also I'm still confused as to if there is actually a distinction between "college" and "university", and if so, what it is :P) |
| 17:00.53 | Repo | 10nauticus: 03Drool 043.0.8 * r132 : Tagging as 3.0.8 |
| 17:01.03 | Kuja^ | Gnarfoz: heh :D |
| 17:01.29 | Gnarfoz | I think we even had a discussion about uni <> college in here some time ago, for basically the same reason ^^ |
| 17:01.37 | nevcairiel | someone tried to explain the difference to me once |
| 17:01.43 | nevcairiel | i forgot, though |
| 17:01.50 | steev | university tends to be larger |
| 17:02.13 | Gnarfoz | I remember someone saying that a university (can?) consist of multiple colleges |
| 17:02.15 | dodga | um.. so warlocks now get a dot that returns health to them |
| 17:02.17 | Gnarfoz | or something like that :D |
| 17:02.23 | sacarasc | That is true, Gnarfoz |
| 17:02.25 | Arrowmaster | college tends to only offer a 4 year degree at the most |
| 17:02.28 | dodga | wtf is up with class changes in 3.1 |
| 17:02.28 | nevcairiel | dodga: they alwayss had that |
| 17:02.29 | Gnarfoz | dodga: welcome to wow 1.0? |
| 17:02.31 | quiescens | um |
| 17:02.32 | steev | dodga: i thought they had that before? |
| 17:02.33 | dodga | nevcairiel: no |
| 17:02.37 | durcyn | siphon life has been around for quite some time |
| 17:02.37 | dodga | siphon life is gone |
| 17:02.40 | dodga | corruption does that now |
| 17:02.44 | durcyn | where are you seeing this |
| 17:02.44 | quiescens | affliction warlocks already had a dot that returns health to them |
| 17:02.51 | dodga | durcyn: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14910422662&sid=1 |
| 17:02.58 | quiescens | its not, new, its.. rolled into an existing ability |
| 17:03.00 | nevcairiel | dodga: well they still always had a dot that gives them health :P |
| 17:03.02 | Gnarfoz | ah... more merging of stuff that previously was spec-dependant |
| 17:03.09 | steev | damn them |
| 17:03.10 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: thats almost correct i guess if you consider under grad and post grad as different colleges |
| 17:03.13 | steev | i want to see the DK nerfs |
| 17:03.14 | dodga | and they're getting replenishment |
| 17:03.17 | quiescens | it still is spec dependent gnarfoz |
| 17:03.19 | durcyn | oh my. |
| 17:03.20 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: I don't even know what those two are |
| 17:03.25 | dodga | so they're basically priests, with more damage and no healing |
| 17:03.29 | quiescens | just that once they spec into it, its applied with corruption |
| 17:03.32 | dodga | that is.. nice? |
| 17:03.32 | Gnarfoz | quiescens: what, they get a talent to turn Corruption into Siphon Life? wtf ;P |
| 17:03.36 | quiescens | rather than as a seperate ability |
| 17:03.54 | quiescens | yes, so its still spec dependant? |
| 17:04.05 | quiescens | they still have to spec that way to get the effect o.o |
| 17:04.11 | Zhinjio | in the US, a university has to be "accredited" to have that title. |
| 17:04.13 | Arrowmaster | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undergraduate_education |
| 17:04.17 | Zhinjio | unfortunately, that varies state to state |
| 17:04.27 | Arrowmaster | 'undergraduate education is post-secondary education up to the level of a bachelor's degree' |
| 17:04.45 | Zhinjio | in most states though, it means that you aware at least 1 doctorate level degree in some field. |
| 17:04.46 | Gnarfoz | Diplom, right? |
| 17:04.47 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 17:04.54 | SunTsu | cheers for 3.1 feral changes |
| 17:05.03 | Arrowmaster | like i said, colleges only offer a 4 year degree while universities are longer |
| 17:05.03 | nevcairiel | needs more resto changes |
| 17:05.18 | nevcairiel | Hm |
| 17:05.22 | Zhinjio | it isn't a "standard" world-wide, though. |
| 17:05.24 | Gnarfoz | comparing and/or describing educational systems of different countries is really a bitch :p |
| 17:05.37 | nevcairiel | Well we have bachelor/master now |
| 17:05.44 | Zhinjio | the UK has some kind of council or something that is the only thing that grants a college "university" status |
| 17:05.45 | Gnarfoz | but the old stuff is still there, too |
| 17:05.52 | kenlyric | a university is a collection of colleges |
| 17:06.00 | kenlyric | in the US |
| 17:06.02 | nevcairiel | my university (actually its a FH) stopped doing "Diplom" |
| 17:06.20 | kenlyric | in the UK those colleges may be functionally different organizations, but in the US they tend to not be. |
| 17:06.21 | Gnarfoz | omg they're like intel, doing away with the legacy stuff! ;O |
| 17:06.40 | nevcairiel | i believe the last Diplom-students graduaded last year |
| 17:06.45 | nevcairiel | everyone else is bachelor or master now |
| 17:06.57 | Gnarfoz | I find that weird, tbh |
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| 17:07.27 | Gnarfoz | but since I was too lazy to do my Abitur, I didn't really keep track of what changed and why, so I'm kind of in the dark ;D |
| 17:07.33 | Zhinjio | WTDF???? |
| 17:07.51 | Gnarfoz | (what?) |
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| 17:07.57 | Zhinjio | "You have used up your prepaid time for this account. Please visit... to purchase more to continue playing" |
| 17:08.00 | Zhinjio | onm login |
| 17:08.04 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: The whole bachelor/master thing really looks like "fast food education" to me |
| 17:08.08 | Zhinjio | I have a fucking subscription |
| 17:08.17 | Gnarfoz | SunTsu: yay 12 year Abitur :O |
| 17:08.19 | Zhinjio | paid through april |
| 17:08.26 | nevcairiel | i did a real 13 year! |
| 17:08.36 | nevcairiel | and before "zentral abitur", yay :P |
| 17:08.38 | Gnarfoz | I would have, had I not been a lazy bum annoyed by school :p |
| 17:08.56 | nevcairiel | so was i |
| 17:09.00 | nevcairiel | but somehow i managed |
| 17:09.12 | nevcairiel | i had to repeat one year because i pissed one teacher off, though |
| 17:09.26 | Gnarfoz | I quit during 12.2, bad decision really, but meh |
| 17:09.46 | nevcairiel | Rule 1: Don't tell a teacher that their class is boring and you don't care abou it |
| 17:09.59 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 17:11.22 | nevcairiel | that probably wasnt too smart |
| 17:11.24 | nevcairiel | but huh |
| 17:11.28 | nevcairiel | He had it coming |
| 17:11.47 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: Hm, I laughed at a teacher who gave me a good mark, I was literally ROTFL. He gave me a worse mark, I complained and got back the good one ;) |
| 17:11.54 | Arrowmaster | i think ive dont that before |
| 17:12.14 | nevcairiel | Yeah well he failed me in the two classes i had with him |
| 17:12.16 | nevcairiel | go figure |
| 17:12.16 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 17:12.43 | Arrowmaster | ive also gotten plenty of funny looks for never paying attention and getting great grades because all the credit is from tests |
| 17:12.51 | nevcairiel | (I mean, who does care about "Werte und Normen" .. i still don't know who the fuck came up with that name) |
| 17:13.04 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 17:13.09 | Gnarfoz | WuN sucked big time |
| 17:13.30 | nevcairiel | My second try, i picked religion :p |
| 17:13.35 | Gnarfoz | I once got a class best mark for an essay, and I basically just wrote random shit I made up, didn't even read the book |
| 17:13.38 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: I am too old to have had smth. like that |
| 17:13.51 | nevcairiel | Well its mostly a religion replacement class |
| 17:14.08 | Gnarfoz | secular education ftw |
| 17:14.13 | robotusch | Religion replacement? :| |
| 17:14.47 | NivFreak | damn our boomkin for messing up immortal last night |
| 17:14.48 | SunTsu | Gnarfoz: I did something like that on my english abitur, mixed up song texts with a few sentences of mine and received back the 2nd best mark for it.... |
| 17:14.57 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 17:15.31 | Gnarfoz | wasn't there a 4chan (or something) pic about recently where the teacher noted "if you think I'm not reading every page of every test, you're mistaken" xD |
| 17:18.55 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 17:19.24 | Gnarfoz | also, http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0205091doll1.html |
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| 17:20.51 | nevcairiel | haha |
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| 17:22.26 | EvilJohn | that's so not right |
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| 17:28.13 | NivFreak | wow |
| 17:28.18 | NivFreak | the 3.1 warlock changes |
| 17:28.19 | NivFreak | wow |
| 17:28.28 | NivFreak | replenishment, imp scorch |
| 17:28.30 | Arrowmaster | link? |
| 17:28.35 | NivFreak | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/14910422662-upcoming-class-change-highlights-part-2.html |
| 17:28.36 | nevcairiel | druid changes are teh boring |
| 17:28.47 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: or bizarre |
| 17:28.56 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: not sure wtf they are trying to fix now |
| 17:29.15 | Hjalte | nevcairiel: They're boring for moonkins at least |
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| 17:29.24 | nevcairiel | and for trees |
| 17:29.37 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: they give bears a reason to get crit |
| 17:29.41 | robotusch | ofc Paladins are the last >:( |
| 17:29.50 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: huh? |
| 17:29.57 | NivFreak | it's when they DEAL a crit |
| 17:30.01 | NivFreak | oh |
| 17:30.03 | nevcairiel | When a druid in Dire Bear form deals a melee critical strike, the druid gains a damage shield equal to 25% of their attack power. |
| 17:30.04 | NivFreak | I see what you mean |
| 17:30.09 | NivFreak | you mean, gear crit |
| 17:30.15 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 17:30.21 | NivFreak | all that really does is makes them shift back to stacking agility |
| 17:30.23 | NivFreak | instead of stam |
| 17:30.54 | nevcairiel | Well druids wanted something more to stack then just stam |
| 17:30.59 | nevcairiel | however agility is already OP |
| 17:31.21 | nevcairiel | But hey i can buff thorns in tree form now |
| 17:31.24 | nevcairiel | op buff :P |
| 17:31.28 | Arrowmaster | siphon life effect to corruption? does that mean corruption is going to heal for like 100% of the damage it does instead of a really low hps siphon life? thats fucking awesome |
| 17:31.47 | ckknight | Hey all, working on a new CSS system for curseforge/wowace. If you want to help test it, click "Use beta CSS" in the footer. |
| 17:31.48 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: probably not, my guess, the old effect without an extra dot |
| 17:32.00 | ckknight | tell me if you see any oddities |
| 17:32.38 | nevcairiel | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ace3/pages/api/ace-addon-3-0/ is still sucky :( |
| 17:32.48 | ckknight | I know |
| 17:32.53 | ckknight | other stuff |
| 17:32.56 | ckknight | things that are wrong |
| 17:33.02 | ckknight | and not also broken on the old site |
| 17:33.06 | ckknight | err, old CSS |
| 17:33.21 | ckknight | once this is all tested, since Kaelten has a hardon for testing this, we can make changes |
| 17:33.35 | ckknight | but that's like, a week from now |
| 17:33.53 | ckknight | so test it, tell me if you find any issues that don't also exist with the old CSS |
| 17:34.32 | nevcairiel | meh i was taking my chances :P |
| 17:34.39 | Fisker- | i have a hardon as well |
| 17:34.58 | Fisker- | and Kaelten's hardons touch |
| 17:35.44 | ckknight | docking, amirite? |
| 17:37.04 | Fisker- | •Drain Soul now has a chance to produce Soul Shards even if the target doesn’t die. |
| 17:37.06 | Fisker- | nooooooooo |
| 17:37.31 | Arrowmaster | i hope its on every tick |
| 17:38.08 | steev | i bet the remaining 4 classes are all getting nerfs, thats why they haven't released their notes yet |
| 17:38.36 | durcyn | I'm waiting for "* Mage: The Mage class has been removed from the game." |
| 17:38.41 | Fisker- | duh steev |
| 17:38.49 | Fisker- | just the fact that Paladins are on that list confirms that |
| 17:40.20 | ckknight | durcyn: lol |
| 17:41.23 | nevcairiel | durcyn: back in the day during classic we started a rumour that they would remove hunters, you wouldn't believe how many people actually fell for it |
| 17:41.41 | ckknight | lol |
| 17:42.42 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: I think it's still planned ;) |
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| 17:51.47 | Repo | 10hiddenreps: 03snoring 07master * 092aed7 / (4 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] Initial commit. |
| 17:54.18 | Gnarfoz | @project hiddenreps |
| 17:54.18 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/hiddenreps/. Hidden Reputations. Game: WoW. Status: Needs approval. snoring (Manager/Author). Updated: 2 minutes ago |
| 17:54.47 | Gnarfoz | cool :O |
| 17:54.47 | steev | @describe hiddenreps |
| 17:54.49 | Repo | steev: http://www.wowace.com/projects/hiddenreps/. Hidden Reputations. Hidden Reputations exposes hidden reputation meters in the reputation tab, such as Alliance/Horde or Steamwheedle Cartel. Description This addon exposes hidden reputation meters in the reputation tab... |
| 17:55.16 | Torhal | Redundant description? Bwah? |
| 17:56.13 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pettigrow * r1158 GridLocale-frFR.lua: frFR Update |
| 17:57.32 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: repo bug ;) |
| 17:57.37 | Torhal | Aha |
| 17:57.54 | Groktar | sigh, quests are buggier now than they were on release |
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| 18:30.53 | Pneumatus | sauce? |
| 18:31.06 | pastamancer | sauce! |
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| 18:31.22 | pastamancer | hmm |
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| 18:31.37 | Gnarfoz | http://de.sevenload.com/videos/txlp0t3-Starwars-hd |
| 18:31.50 | pastamancer | there we go |
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| 19:06.43 | Primer | I see no video |
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| 19:07.55 | Primer | seems flashblock didn't provide a clickable link |
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| 19:09.43 | Repo | 10hiddenreps: 03snoring 04v0.1 * fcef4b3 /: [new tag] version 0.1 |
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| 19:31.21 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/hiddenreps/. Hidden Reputations. snoring (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
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| 19:36.55 | AckisWork | Shefki: ping |
| 19:40.00 | ulic | @describe hiddenreps |
| 19:40.01 | Repo | ulic: http://www.wowace.com/projects/hiddenreps/. Hidden Reputations. Hidden Reputations exposes hidden reputation meters in the reputation tab, such as Alliance/Horde or Steamwheedle Cartel. Description This addon exposes hidden reputation meters in the reputation tab... |
| 19:40.26 | ulic | hmm, I didn't know they hid some. |
| 19:40.46 | durcyn | the only ones i can think of are Alliance/Horde and Steamwheedle Cartel |
| 19:40.53 | durcyn | though i'm not even sure about steamwheedle |
| 19:41.12 | AckisWork | in beta they counted steamwheedle as its own rep |
| 19:41.41 | Aeyan | Alliance, Horde, Steamwheedle, Shattrath City, and Sholazar Basin apparently |
| 19:45.13 | Primer | I want to grind opposing faction rep |
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| 19:50.41 | Repo | 10accomplishment: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.1.0-4-g05e5542 Core.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 19:50.44 | Repo | 05e5542: Make the All button use our Throttle call rather than use the generic "guys!". |
| 19:50.47 | Repo | 710a973: Move "Congratulatory Message" option to the bottom, increase width to "full". |
| 19:55.14 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1472 / (5 files in 3 directories): |
| 19:55.17 | Repo | Convert alliance vanguard and horde expedition down from two entries to one entry. Will only affect the mechao-hog and mekgineer's chooper. |
| 19:55.28 | AckisWork | EthanCentaurai: ping :P |
| 19:55.42 | EthanCentaurai | AckisWork: pong |
| 19:55.58 | AckisWork | replied to http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/342-scan-button-doesnt-show-on-first-opening-of-tradeskill/ |
| 19:56.45 | EthanCentaurai | right |
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| 19:57.01 | AckisWork | i have no idea what addonloader does, never really looked into it |
| 19:57.54 | durcyn | it's a 99% useless load on demand stub, for when you want to waste cpu and memory in the middle of your session instead of while loading |
| 19:58.08 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r44 / (2 files in 2 directories): -update Glyph module to memoize results |
| 19:58.11 | Repo | -main module now uses GetItemInfo where possible to reduce localization load |
| 19:58.14 | Repo | -main module also memoizes results (in preparation for having more info per tooltip) |
| 19:58.17 | Repo | -should be functionally the same as the current beta |
| 19:58.40 | AckisWork | lol |
| 19:59.14 | AckisWork | i broke tooltips last night and never had time to fix them wheee |
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| 20:02.26 | EthanCentaurai | decides to abandon the ticket and dump AddonLoader |
| 20:02.38 | AckisWork | EthanCentaurai: eh I'll look into it |
| 20:02.46 | AckisWork | just not 100% sure why it would do that |
| 20:02.53 | AckisWork | since the button is created |
| 20:03.18 | AckisWork | it must have a bug in it dealing with events |
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| 20:04.27 | EthanCentaurai | perhaps it would be best to dump the AddonLoader support and use ## LoadWith: Blizzard_CraftUI instead |
| 20:04.54 | EthanCentaurai | goes to test |
| 20:04.54 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1473 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 20:04.57 | Repo | Add options to move the scan button around to the bottom right/left... doesn't actually change the position but it'll make people think they can change the position. |
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| 20:05.18 | EthanCentaurai | hehe |
| 20:06.15 | AckisWork | I just don't have the points to dry-code the bottom left/right right now, and I'm too lazy to look them up |
| 20:08.37 | durcyn | ~seen kemayo |
| 20:08.48 | purl | kemayo is currently on #curseforge, last said: 'I'm just really bad at leaving IRC channels.'. |
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| 20:15.43 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1474 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 20:15.46 | Repo | Dry-code some stuff to make it work with cauldron... what the hell is cauldron? |
| 20:16.06 | AckisWork | @project cauldron |
| 20:16.08 | Repo | AckisWork: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cauldron/. Cauldron. Game: WoW. pschifferer (Manager/Author). Updated: 3 days ago. Tickets: 9/24 |
| 20:16.19 | AckisWork | ~seen pschifferer |
| 20:16.20 | purl | i haven't seen 'pschifferer', AckisWork |
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| 20:32.45 | EthanCentaurai | @ticket arl 346 |
| 20:32.47 | Repo | EthanCentaurai: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/346 - Improved ARL LoD. Reported by: ethancentaurai. Type: Patch. Updated: 32 seconds ago. Component: Graphic Interface. Status: New. Priority: Medium. Assignee: Ackis. Votes: 0. Comments: 0 |
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| 20:34.32 | Repo | 10analyst: 03Bethink * r30 HISTORY.txt: Updated release notes for release 1.0.5 |
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| 20:35.06 | Repo | 10analyst: 03Bethink * r31 Analyst.toc: Updated TOC for release 1.0.5 |
| 20:35.50 | AckisWork | EthanCentaurai: ALl you did was do: ## LoadWith: Blizzard_TradeSkillUI right/ |
| 20:36.01 | Repo | 10volumizer: 03Torhal * r5 Volumizer.lua: Minor code cleanup. |
| 20:36.04 | Repo | Added "Enable Sound" checkbox - hardwired into the default Blizzard methods, so no SavedVars are necessary. |
| 20:36.08 | EthanCentaurai | and set ## LoadOnDemand to 1 |
| 20:36.35 | Repo | 10analyst: 03Bethink 041.0.5 * r32 : Tagging as 1.0.5 |
| 20:36.43 | EthanCentaurai | and removed the AddonLoader stuffz |
| 20:37.08 | AckisWork | did you remove ## Notes-enUS: or did the packager do that? |
| 20:37.34 | EthanCentaurai | I didn't see a Notes-enUS |
| 20:37.40 | Arrowmaster | why do you have a Notes-enUS, just use Notes |
| 20:38.54 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: I has notes-frFR etc, there was a bug or something for enUS that caused issues |
| 20:39.34 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1475 AckisRecipeList.toc: Accepting Ethan's patch #346) |
| 20:39.46 | Arrowmaster | no bug im aware of, and everything else uses Notes and Notes-xxXX where xxXX is not enUS |
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| 20:44.41 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r247 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 20:44.43 | Repo | - Import tradeskill difficulty coloring information from wowhead |
| 20:44.46 | Repo | - Show difficulty coloring and vendor price information in main window |
| 20:44.48 | Repo | - Stop gathering difficulty coloring information |
| 20:44.52 | Repo | - Erase previously recorded difficulty coloring information |
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| 20:52.55 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: awesome, thanks for reminding me about 25c3 vids.... watching Hacker Jeopardy now :D |
| 20:55.21 | Shadoweric | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14910422908&pageNo=1#0 |
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| 20:56.41 | NeoTron | AckisWork: well finally checked out ARL... see if it's as hawt as they say tonight |
| 20:57.56 | NeoTron | @describe cauldron |
| 20:57.57 | Repo | NeoTron: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cauldron/. Cauldron. An enhanced tradeskill addon. Cauldron provides: a better view of your tradeskills than the default; more sorting and filtering options; the ability to mark skills as a favorite; a queuing system that... |
| 20:58.10 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 20:58.18 | quiescens | oooh, a queueing system that |
| 21:00.46 | Anaral | Cauldron's UI looks a little messy... |
| 21:02.15 | AckisWork | NeoTron: don't get the latest alphas, I broke tooltips yesterday :P |
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| 21:06.32 | vhaarr | NivFreak: okay so I just tested malygos again on 10man and it does indeed work, so |
| 21:06.42 | vhaarr | NivFreak: now that thaddius and malygos are fixed, anything else I should look at? |
| 21:06.46 | NivFreak | vhaarr: yea, I'll try again next wednesday |
| 21:06.57 | NivFreak | the rest seemed pretty good to me off the top of my head |
| 21:07.04 | NivFreak | I was going to solicit some feedback from my guild |
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| 21:09.18 | NivFreak | the razouvious timers for bone shield felt faster than the last version I was using, but I have no concrete data on it |
| 21:09.23 | NivFreak | might have just been an off night for me |
| 21:09.40 | NivFreak | and I've broken my UI in such a way that it's difficult to see those buffs currently :) |
| 21:10.17 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r45 MillHelp.lua: |
| 21:10.20 | Repo | minor tweak to the line added to the tooltips in main module |
| 21:11.09 | vhaarr | NivFreak: okay, hm, I'll check into the razuvious timers |
| 21:11.31 | Hjalte | I am thinking about making a suggestion to the Curse Client, having it delete certain folders for some addons. Like when using a package, eg. Cartographer 3, and not wanting the waypoints module. Does anyone think it's not a good idea? |
| 21:11.46 | AckisWork | I wonder if bigwigs has been tagged today? |
| 21:11.54 | vhaarr | it has not |
| 21:11.58 | Pneumatus | just disable the module in your addons screen :< |
| 21:11.58 | NivFreak | vhaarr: it could totally just be my internal timing for the night |
| 21:11.59 | AckisWork | ;) |
| 21:12.06 | vhaarr | NivFreak: like I said, I'll check |
| 21:12.12 | NivFreak | vhaarr: yep, just disclaiming |
| 21:12.25 | Pneumatus | half the point of splitting addons into many modules is that they can be disabled easily :o |
| 21:12.43 | NivFreak | vhaarr: my only other immediate feedback would be what we discussed last night. A more direct/obvious error about old/outdated modules |
| 21:13.14 | Hjalte | Pneumatus: Sometimes there are several modules I am not using, and sometimes I eg. disable all addons to try something and then I have to tick them all off again when toggling them back. |
| 21:13.15 | NeoTron | durcyn: you made a malygos timer addon right? |
| 21:13.23 | NeoTron | AckisWork: but but.. I always use svn! fix! |
| 21:13.28 | Pneumatus | ACP + profiles :) |
| 21:13.33 | AckisWork | NeoTron: lol |
| 21:13.38 | Pneumatus | well, sets |
| 21:13.40 | Pneumatus | w/e they call them |
| 21:13.41 | vhaarr | NivFreak: yes I've been thinking about that, there's no way to error on outdated modules, but when there are duplicates like in your case I'll make it alert you to that fact |
| 21:14.05 | durcyn | NeoTron: yeah, just a little libbars timer for your own debuff's duration |
| 21:14.15 | vhaarr | durcyn: what debuff? |
| 21:14.18 | durcyn | engulf in flames |
| 21:14.28 | vhaarr | ah |
| 21:14.37 | NeoTron | durcyn: what's the name? Malygos Timer is one addon but most people don't care about the whole raid |
| 21:14.46 | durcyn | 'Engulf' |
| 21:14.49 | NivFreak | vhaarr: cool, that'll probably help catch a few problems |
| 21:15.12 | vhaarr | durcyn: is that something we could add to the bigwigs module? |
| 21:15.41 | durcyn | vhaarr: feel free to pilfer it if you'd like, it's pretty straightforward |
| 21:16.11 | vhaarr | aah now I see what you mean |
| 21:16.17 | vhaarr | no, I don't think that should be in the boss module |
| 21:16.19 | Bruners | yay 21 minute heigan |
| 21:16.35 | NivFreak | Bruners: hahahahaa |
| 21:16.39 | NeoTron | Bruners: ... did you 2 man it? |
| 21:17.24 | NivFreak | god, we had 3 wings clear, and were on thaddius, and our boomkin ran the wrong way on the first charge because he was in a pug that reversed sides from what we do |
| 21:17.28 | NivFreak | killed our immortal |
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| 21:18.45 | Pneumatus | negative left, positive right, everyone knows that :o |
| 21:19.20 | NivFreak | same thing we do |
| 21:19.23 | NivFreak | this pug did it the other way |
| 21:19.34 | NivFreak | we actually spam a ascii diagram right before the charge lands |
| 21:19.38 | NivFreak | so it's a pretty thing excuse |
| 21:19.43 | NivFreak | thin* |
| 21:19.49 | End | I guess we do it the "right" way then! ;-) |
| 21:19.51 | steev | someone asked me what the difference was between going pos left, neg right, and neg left, pos right, i told them the only difference was whether someone was following the writeup someone did on wow wiki |
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| 21:20.19 | NivFreak | We just picked one at random |
| 21:20.23 | NivFreak | what's wowwiki say? |
| 21:20.30 | steev | neg | thad | pos |
| 21:20.42 | NivFreak | well, easy enough then |
| 21:21.09 | steev | tankspot says... tank stands in one spot, anyone who doesn't have same buff as tank, run to other side, im like wtf? |
| 21:21.22 | Pneumatus | wtf :o |
| 21:21.23 | NivFreak | lol |
| 21:21.26 | NivFreak | I MT it |
| 21:21.29 | NivFreak | I switch with everyone else |
| 21:21.32 | Pneumatus | you're supposed to watch what buff the tank has all the time? :o |
| 21:21.41 | steev | i shit you not |
| 21:21.52 | Pneumatus | that sounds like the most retarded tactic ever |
| 21:22.36 | steev | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbkKnywTrl8 |
| 21:22.56 | NivFreak | We just all group up in the middle (ffs, behind the tank) |
| 21:23.05 | NivFreak | and move left or right depending on the charge |
| 21:23.09 | NivFreak | then always cross on the right when it changes |
| 21:23.15 | Pneumatus | on the right?! |
| 21:23.19 | NivFreak | everyone stacks at maxx melee hit range |
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| 21:23.24 | selckin | clockwise ! |
| 21:23.29 | NivFreak | selckin: yep |
| 21:23.30 | NivFreak | er |
| 21:23.30 | Pneumatus | negative left, positive right, rotate clockwise |
| 21:23.31 | NivFreak | no |
| 21:23.33 | selckin | thats left |
| 21:23.35 | Gnarfoz | wtf "clockwise" |
| 21:23.36 | NivFreak | we go couterclockwise |
| 21:23.38 | durcyn | i always liked the rotation strategies, same left, change right, it was a little dance for people who pay attention |
| 21:23.41 | Gnarfoz | just run through thaddius! |
| 21:23.45 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 21:23.47 | Gnarfoz | are you retarded :P |
| 21:23.49 | nevcairiel | just run though him |
| 21:23.49 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: the idea is to provide more buffer |
| 21:23.53 | Gnarfoz | buffer for what |
| 21:23.57 | NivFreak | if people are slow |
| 21:24.01 | Gnarfoz | there's like 5 secs before the actual charges are applied |
| 21:24.01 | nevcairiel | longer way, less buffer |
| 21:24.02 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 21:24.08 | Gnarfoz | and the range is big |
| 21:24.21 | NivFreak | the 5 yards is enough to matter sometimes |
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| 21:24.44 | nevcairiel | We laught at everyone that joins us and thinks running a half-circle is good |
| 21:24.49 | nevcairiel | l2run |
| 21:24.53 | Gnarfoz | heh, indeed |
| 21:24.54 | nevcairiel | short way, more time to react |
| 21:24.57 | NivFreak | you don't have to run in a half circle |
| 21:24.58 | nevcairiel | good? |
| 21:25.04 | NivFreak | you run in a straight line |
| 21:25.06 | Gnarfoz | hacker jeopardy, round 2 :D |
| 21:25.11 | NivFreak | why would you run in a half circle? :P |
| 21:25.15 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: indeed, stratight through thaddius |
| 21:25.22 | nevcairiel | -t |
| 21:25.22 | NivFreak | and when you get to the other side |
| 21:25.24 | NivFreak | you turn around |
| 21:25.26 | NivFreak | and shift right |
| 21:25.36 | steev | but, turning with the keyboard is so slow :( |
| 21:25.40 | NivFreak | lol |
| 21:25.44 | nevcairiel | thats a retarded strat o.O |
| 21:25.49 | Gnarfoz | who said anything about keyboards :P |
| 21:25.56 | Pneumatus | running in straight lines is clearly for people that click to move |
| 21:26.04 | NivFreak | Pneumatus: haha |
| 21:26.11 | nevcairiel | i could probably turn and run with the keyboard and still make it |
| 21:26.17 | nevcairiel | there is plenty time |
| 21:26.19 | Gnarfoz | that would actually help some people on Thaddius |
| 21:26.24 | steev | there is tons of time |
| 21:26.28 | NeoTron | whoha, the tank sword of KT is the best DK 1h weapon due to the high dps. weird |
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| 21:26.35 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: with the lag issues in naxx, it's never a bad idea to account for lag ;P |
| 21:26.37 | NeoTron | at least according to my scale |
| 21:26.43 | steev | and more people can remember go straight than go right |
| 21:26.54 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: we havent had any issues with that since the first round of hotfixes |
| 21:26.54 | Gnarfoz | luckily, we have no lag issues at all in naxx <3 |
| 21:27.07 | NivFreak | I had way better framerate last night |
| 21:27.17 | NivFreak | they said something about another round of fixes right? |
| 21:27.32 | nevcairiel | If it was a framerate issue, its your problem entirely =P |
| 21:27.43 | nevcairiel | the serverlag shouldnt influence your framerate |
| 21:27.50 | NivFreak | that was my theory too |
| 21:27.55 | NivFreak | but they had acknowledge some issues |
| 21:28.03 | NivFreak | I had been blaming addon interaction + JoL |
| 21:28.11 | NivFreak | acknowledged* |
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| 21:29.13 | NivFreak | I'm a bit worried about the regen nerfs |
| 21:29.30 | NivFreak | but I suppose things will get tuned for it, and people will adapt |
| 21:29.42 | nevcairiel | They only nerf weird behaviour |
| 21:30.02 | nevcairiel | if you're chain casting, you shouldnt notice much of a difference, if i read the changes right |
| 21:30.21 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: you read them wrong |
| 21:30.22 | NivFreak | :) |
| 21:30.33 | nevcairiel | I usually don't |
| 21:30.34 | steev | if you're chain casting *dps* |
| 21:30.35 | NivFreak | they nerfed divine plea to a -50% debuff for one |
| 21:30.44 | NivFreak | they nerfed spirit across the board |
| 21:30.46 | steev | you won't notice a difference |
| 21:31.06 | NivFreak | they are trying to destroy the OFSR style it looks like |
| 21:31.06 | nevcairiel | "However we are also boosting the effects of talents such as Meditation that increase regeneration while casting. The net result should be that your regeneration while casting will stay about the same" |
| 21:31.17 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: yes, _while casting_ |
| 21:31.31 | NivFreak | OFSR regen is getting a huge nerf |
| 21:31.37 | nevcairiel | (22:29:53) (@nevcairiel) if you're chain casting, you shouldnt notice much of a difference, if i read the changes right |
| 21:31.40 | nevcairiel | isnt that what i said? |
| 21:31.46 | Repo | 10broker-itemlist: 03Morgalm * r11 / (3 files in 1 directory): Broker_Itemlist |
| 21:31.49 | Repo | -added acevent/acetimer dependencies |
| 21:31.51 | NivFreak | <@nevcairiel> They only nerf weird behaviour |
| 21:31.59 | nevcairiel | that is weird behaviour |
| 21:32.01 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r42 / (3 files in 1 directory): correct a few bugs: |
| 21:32.04 | Repo | Sound Notification when objective complete now works |
| 21:32.05 | NivFreak | wtf |
| 21:32.05 | NivFreak | no |
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| 21:32.09 | Repo | Hide objective notification when quest complete for party notification |
| 21:32.11 | NivFreak | why is OFSR weird |
| 21:32.12 | Repo | Update quest Tracker when leaving group and both player and party have the quest |
| 21:32.31 | nevcairiel | there is always something to heal |
| 21:32.31 | Repo | 10broker-itemlist: 03Morgalm 04v1.4 * r12 : Tagging as v1.4 |
| 21:33.22 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: you can use clear casting procs and timing to get OFSR ticks |
| 21:33.26 | NivFreak | while still activily healing |
| 21:33.40 | NivFreak | I guess they are just trying to do the same thing as they did to tanks |
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| 21:33.43 | nevcairiel | They specifically addressed that as unintended in the post |
| 21:33.49 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou 04r42beta * r43 : Tagging as r42beta |
| 21:33.53 | NivFreak | remove skill from being a major factor in the ability to perform the support role |
| 21:34.12 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: that still doesn't make it weird behavior |
| 21:34.20 | NivFreak | any more than downranking was "weird" behavior |
| 21:34.44 | nevcairiel | Just wait 2s then cast big heals, same as downranking? :) |
| 21:34.56 | NivFreak | no :P |
| 21:35.19 | NivFreak | 13K overheals are fun and all |
| 21:35.23 | nevcairiel | I'm a druid anyway, i dont downrank and i dont need to play on FSR |
| 21:35.40 | NivFreak | and you are why they want to nerf mana regen :) |
| 21:35.45 | nevcairiel | i'm never oom either way =P |
| 21:35.47 | NivFreak | so expect to feel it |
| 21:35.55 | NivFreak | you likely will be after these changes |
| 21:36.00 | nevcairiel | I'm constantly casting |
| 21:36.05 | NivFreak | yes |
| 21:36.07 | nevcairiel | according to them it won't change in that case |
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| 21:36.10 | nevcairiel | so what? |
| 21:36.11 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 21:36.12 | NivFreak | no |
| 21:36.18 | hypetech | One of the resto druids in my guild doesn't even spec into OoC and she never goes anywhere near oom |
| 21:36.18 | NivFreak | they intend to make it an issue |
| 21:36.22 | NivFreak | that is their design goal |
| 21:36.35 | Hirsute | NivFreak: For those who aren't constantly casting |
| 21:36.43 | nevcairiel | maybe i can actually use innervate then! |
| 21:36.45 | nevcairiel | or potions"! |
| 21:36.55 | hypetech | innervate glyph even! |
| 21:37.01 | Hirsute | None of the stated changes will have much effect if you are never on non-casting mana regen. |
| 21:37.56 | Pneumatus | i went down as low as about 90% mana on our sarth+3 yesterday :> |
| 21:38.08 | NivFreak | As we have suggested, we have become concerned that mana regeneration is currently too powerful, especially for healers. We want players to have to keep an eye on mana. We don’t want you to go out of mana every fight, but running out of mana should be a very real risk for sloppy playing or attempting content that you aren’t yet ready for. |
| 21:38.26 | NivFreak | how can that not mean that they intend to run you out of mana if you are constantly casting |
| 21:38.29 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: of course a sloppy healer von always go oom :P |
| 21:38.39 | nevcairiel | s/von/can/ |
| 21:38.43 | hypetech | our healers rarely even need mana tide |
| 21:38.45 | NivFreak | maybe I just heal ona priest too much for 2 expacs :) |
| 21:38.49 | taleden | well, it could mean casting your more mana-efficient heals over your time-efficient heals |
| 21:39.03 | Pneumatus | disc priest regen through rapture is sick, anyway |
| 21:39.03 | Hirsute | NivFreak: I'll see your quote, and raise you: |
| 21:39.05 | Hirsute | To make this change, we are reducing mana regeneration granted by Spirit across the board. However we are also boosting the effects of talents such as Meditation that increase regeneration while casting. The net result should be that your regeneration while casting will stay about the same, but your not-casting regeneration will be reduced. This change will have little impact on dps casters,... |
| 21:39.07 | taleden | having to choose which spell to use and on who at what time is the fun part, i think they're saying that fun is diminished when the mana efficiency isn't even a factor |
| 21:39.11 | Hirsute | ...since they are basically always casting. |
| 21:39.26 | NivFreak | Hirsute: yes, we were talking about that a page up |
| 21:39.34 | NivFreak | but their intended design goal is stated first |
| 21:39.41 | NivFreak | you should be aware of your mana pool |
| 21:39.47 | NivFreak | it should be a concern |
| 21:39.52 | nevcairiel | the design goal is too make it harder |
| 21:39.56 | Hirsute | *nod* |
| 21:39.56 | nevcairiel | to* |
| 21:40.09 | Hirsute | But the changes will minimally affect those who are constantly casting. |
| 21:40.13 | nevcairiel | However, i still don't see a issue for me |
| 21:40.30 | NivFreak | well wait a second |
| 21:40.31 | Pneumatus | nor me, i chaincast :) |
| 21:40.51 | NivFreak | do you have a talent that converts spirit to mp5? |
| 21:40.54 | Hirsute | If a healer has devleoped a play style in which he/she's constantly casting, he/she wasn't benefitting from the mechanics that are going to be nerfed. |
| 21:40.56 | NivFreak | I assume you must |
| 21:41.01 | nevcairiel | a 30% thingy |
| 21:41.05 | nevcairiel | like every healer |
| 21:41.14 | NivFreak | want to bet that they won't buff yours? |
| 21:41.23 | NivFreak | or not as much |
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| 21:41.26 | nevcairiel | The specific talents and abilities being boosted are: Arcane Meditation, Improved Spirit Tap, Intensity, Mage Armor, Meditation, Pyromaniac and Spirit Tap. Yes this makes these “mandatory” talents even more mandatory, if such a thing is possible. |
| 21:41.29 | nevcairiel | guess which is mine |
| 21:41.38 | NivFreak | intensity? |
| 21:41.44 | NivFreak | I don't know resto druid talents well enough |
| 21:41.44 | nevcairiel | correct |
| 21:41.44 | Pneumatus | yeh, that sounds druidy |
| 21:42.32 | nevcairiel | even if they don't |
| 21:42.37 | taleden | is there any way to make aceconfigdialog update its display for one specific control, without having to NotifyChange() for the whole options table? |
| 21:42.46 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: if they don't you see a regen loss |
| 21:42.51 | NivFreak | since they are nerfing spirit |
| 21:43.08 | nevcairiel | hell i'm in first-tier raid gear, first instance in the xpac, and i already stopped gearing for regen |
| 21:43.17 | nevcairiel | let them nerf :P |
| 21:43.20 | Pneumatus | yeh, in combat mp5 will be higher to account for lower ooc mp5 |
| 21:43.28 | Shefki | Yup I'm with nevcairiel |
| 21:43.38 | Shefki | Mana regen wasn't very valueable already. |
| 21:43.42 | Pneumatus | that will actually make spirit more valuable to disc priests also |
| 21:43.48 | Pneumatus | because at present, pure mp5 items are generally better |
| 21:44.01 | nevcairiel | well not for druids |
| 21:44.10 | nevcairiel | spirit is also spell power |
| 21:44.17 | nevcairiel | plus we have a 15% bonus on raw spirit |
| 21:44.18 | Pneumatus | for holy priests it is too |
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| 21:45.48 | nevcairiel | all raid buffs (int + bok) increase spirit effectiveness by about 50% for me, its sick :P |
| 21:46.22 | nevcairiel | They should simplify regen mechanics, all the int*spirit is confusing |
| 21:46.57 | Hirsute | Now, this spirit nerf for me, on the other hand, just means I'll be spending a little more time inbetween fights regenning my mana, or I'll just live in AoV more... |
| 21:47.12 | Hirsute | >.> |
| 21:47.16 | Hirsute | <.< |
| 21:47.28 | nevcairiel | inbetween fights is a non-concern :P |
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| 21:48.49 | Hirsute | Exactly. The mana regen stuff for me is a big bucket of *shrug* |
| 21:49.12 | Hirsute | I do wish that the Class changes preview, part 3 would show up, though. |
| 21:49.49 | Anaral | Kaelten: Why was the 'update' arrow turned into the Reinstall arrow? |
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| 22:02.27 | Hjalte | Anaral: It switches between the two of them |
| 22:02.45 | Repo | 10autocombatlog: 03Skeggiold * r7 / (4 files in 2 directories): - Simplified code. |
| 22:02.57 | Repo | - Restructured addon tree. |
| 22:03.21 | Anaral | Hjalte: I see |
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| 22:06.35 | Repo | 10autocombatlog: 03Skeggiold * r8 Libs/: Adding libs. |
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| 22:15.24 | AckisWork | eh so are they nerfing mana regen or buffing it? I don't really know what's going on |
| 22:16.42 | sacarasc | nerfs Ackis |
| 22:17.28 | cncfanatics | woooop, 4 horsemen down lol |
| 22:19.08 | Fisker- | slaps AckisWork around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:19.33 | Fisker- | slaps AckisWork around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:19.45 | Fisker- | ~roulette |
| 22:19.46 | purl | ACTION watches fisker- pull the trigger: Click! |
| 22:22.46 | Repo | 10volumizer: 03Torhal * r6 Volumizer.lua: |
| 22:22.49 | Repo | Re-factored "Enable Sound" checkbox code into a generic checkbox factory to make toggles for Master, Music, Ambience, and SFX. |
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| 22:42.02 | Speeddy | hey i found a project that i'd like to work on on wowace thats owned by the svn right now.. can someone change ownership to me? |
| 22:42.23 | Speeddy | well |
| 22:42.24 | Speeddy | actually |
| 22:42.26 | Speeddy | nm |
| 22:42.32 | Speeddy | but i do have a patch for it |
| 22:43.14 | Repo | 10project-14842: 03Speeddymon * r87 Core.lua: TweakHub: |
| 22:43.17 | Repo | -Fix bug with slash command. |
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| 22:48.47 | vhaarr | Speeddy: just commit |
| 22:48.50 | vhaarr | ah you did :P |
| 22:48.51 | Speeddy | ^^^ |
| 22:49.02 | Speeddy | yea it just wont get packaged since i cant create a tag on the project |
| 22:49.07 | Speeddy | er |
| 22:49.12 | Speeddy | wont get pushed to curse |
| 22:49.14 | Tuller | goodjob |
| 22:49.38 | Arrowmaster | @project project-14842 |
| 22:49.39 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-14842/. TweakHub. Game: WoW. wowaceSVN (Manager/Author). Updated: 6 minutes ago |
| 22:50.17 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r248 / (11 files in 2 directories): |
| 22:50.20 | Repo | - Display Auctioneer "market value" prices to calculate and display profits |
| 22:50.23 | Repo | - Add optional dependency to Auc-Advanced |
| 22:50.26 | Repo | - Use the GetSellValue API when available |
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| 22:51.31 | Arrowmaster | too bad i cant search users by email |
| 22:52.18 | Arrowmaster | Speeddy: project has no license so by the abandoned project policy ownership cannot be transfered |
| 22:53.39 | Pneumatus | you could email the author and get their consent for the project to be transferred though, surely |
| 22:53.47 | Pneumatus | @ Speeddy |
| 22:54.17 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 22:55.37 | Pneumatus | http://www.wowace.com/profiles/Killermiles/ never logged in to the new site |
| 22:56.19 | Arrowmaster | not since the last time that field got reset atleast |
| 22:56.58 | Tuller | hrm...so feasibility of macbook -> git -> gcode + curseforge |
| 22:57.04 | Arrowmaster | but the profile was created in 2006 so im perty sure its a curse profile, he probably had different email addresses for his curse and wowace profiles if its even the same person |
| 22:57.21 | Arrowmaster | Tuller: not much since gcode doesnt do git |
| 22:57.30 | Arrowmaster | or does it now? |
| 22:57.38 | Tuller | it does not, as far as I'm aware |
| 22:58.08 | Tuller | but the goal being a |
| 22:58.15 | Tuller | "closed" svn, plus open repo |
| 22:58.35 | Tuller | or something wacky |
| 22:58.46 | taleden | is there any real documentation for AceDBOptions anymore? can't find it on old.wowace and the "API" page on new wowace is.. pretty worthless |
| 22:59.04 | Arrowmaster | AceDBOptions only has one api afaik |
| 22:59.09 | nevcairiel | that thing needs docs? |
| 22:59.17 | nevcairiel | just call the function, get table, be happy |
| 22:59.25 | taleden | I did that, looks wonderful |
| 22:59.26 | taleden | does nothing |
| 22:59.32 | taleden | as far as I can tell |
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| 22:59.43 | taleden | because it doesn't tell me when the profile changes, so my code doesn't re-load and parse the settings |
| 22:59.49 | Arrowmaster | Tuller: you could be like Tekkub and use gcode for issue tracking and other stuff and github/wowace for repos |
| 22:59.58 | taleden | and there's no mention of any callback to register for on profile change in the ADBO API |
| 23:00.06 | Arrowmaster | because thats not part of AceDBOptions |
| 23:00.09 | Arrowmaster | thats AceDB |
| 23:00.17 | Repo | 10grid-auto-frame-size: 03CrazyBenny * r47 GridAutoFrameSize.lua: - fixes for pet layouts |
| 23:00.35 | nevcairiel | AceDBO just provides a config table |
| 23:00.45 | nevcairiel | and calls AceDB directly |
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| 23:00.47 | Tuller | I could, but that's semi wacky :P |
| 23:01.06 | Repo | 10grid-auto-frame-size: 03CrazyBenny 042.2 * r48 : Tagging as 2.2 |
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| 23:01.32 | taleden | sadly, the old.wowace/wiki/AceDB-3 has links to an "AceDB-3.0 Callbacks" page, which doesn't actually exist |
| 23:01.41 | nevcairiel | It used to |
| 23:02.03 | Arrowmaster | or use wowace and close the mainline repo but either allow cloning or create a clone thats open |
| 23:02.16 | Groktar | whee, level 80 in 3:43 |
| 23:03.07 | nevcairiel | self.db.RegisterCallback(self, "OnProfileChanged", "UpdateModuleConfigs") |
| 23:03.07 | nevcairiel | self.db.RegisterCallback(self, "OnProfileCopied", "UpdateModuleConfigs") |
| 23:03.07 | nevcairiel | self.db.RegisterCallback(self, "OnProfileReset", "UpdateModuleConfigs") |
| 23:03.12 | nevcairiel | those three callbacks you need ^ |
| 23:03.22 | taleden | thank you nev :) |
| 23:03.28 | nevcairiel | everything else is just optional |
| 23:03.49 | taleden | any example for when I'd use OnProfileCopied? does that mean something was copied *to* the current profile? |
| 23:03.55 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 23:04.08 | taleden | so basically in all three cases I can just disable/enable to reinit everything |
| 23:04.15 | taleden | or do the same work anyway |
| 23:04.19 | nevcairiel | you can only copy any exisiting profile into the current profile |
| 23:04.44 | nevcairiel | but yes, all of those mean that you need to re-apply the config |
| 23:05.20 | taleden | k |
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| 23:07.17 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, remember you said you had this lua script |
| 23:07.32 | Xinhuan | that parses your source addon files for L[""] strings? |
| 23:07.32 | nevcairiel | lua script? |
| 23:07.35 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 23:07.41 | nevcairiel | yeah its in the bartender repo |
| 23:07.46 | Xinhuan | and then you generate the lua files for the locales |
| 23:07.57 | Xinhuan | i believe it would be useful for wowace itself to have such a script |
| 23:08.14 | nevcairiel | i modified the script to only generate a wordlist for import into the locale system =P |
| 23:08.18 | Xinhuan | you just paste your entire code in, and wowace reads in all the L[""] strings and adds it to enUS locale app |
| 23:08.48 | nevcairiel | its like 10 lines that do the actual parsing |
| 23:08.50 | Xinhuan | of course, you want to be able to specify "L" or the table name here |
| 23:08.57 | Xinhuan | yeah, but what do you think of the idea? |
| 23:09.20 | Xinhuan | makes importing the initial enUS database for new projects easier |
| 23:09.21 | Speeddy | arrowmaster, so if the author hasnt logged on, and the project is abandoned, the only option is to email the author and hope that he/she is reachable? |
| 23:09.46 | nevcairiel | i dunno, seems rather silly to c/p my addon in a text box :P |
| 23:09.54 | Arrowmaster | Speeddy: yes, that account might not even be the authors, the email on it doesnt match whats listed in that addons toc |
| 23:10.00 | Xinhuan | well.. perhaps lol |
| 23:10.11 | Xinhuan | or have wowace scrape it automatically? |
| 23:13.34 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r46 MillHelp.lua: |
| 23:13.34 | cncfanatics | oO |
| 23:13.36 | Repo | add the extra information to the tooltips, pigments and inks for herb tips, herbs and pigments for ink tips |
| 23:13.45 | cncfanatics | there's a version of recount that counts shield absorbs |
| 23:13.48 | cncfanatics | is that live already ? |
| 23:14.03 | nevcairiel | you cannot accurately count absorbs |
| 23:14.08 | nevcairiel | its just guessing |
| 23:14.34 | cncfanatics | the guy seems to have gotten quite close |
| 23:14.48 | cncfanatics | and I wish blizz would add a message that says X damage was absorbed by shield Y of player Z already |
| 23:14.54 | Xinhuan | only if there's no overlapping shields |
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| 23:15.45 | cncfanatics | how does the combatlog exactly report absorbs ? |
| 23:16.25 | End | it's just a column in the damage event |
| 23:16.52 | End | you have blocked, absorbed, resisted, etc |
| 23:17.11 | cncfanatics | it doesn't include the amount absorbed and who was the owner of the buff that caused absorbtion I assume |
| 23:17.28 | Megalon | amount is included |
| 23:17.34 | End | it tells amount |
| 23:17.42 | Arrowmaster | it does include the amount but i dont think it does if all the damage was absorbed |
| 23:18.02 | cncfanatics | whats the issue then ? tracking who owned the buff that caused absorbtion ? |
| 23:18.02 | nevcairiel | They added that, shows that too |
| 23:18.12 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 23:18.27 | Megalon | Arrowmaster: of everything is absorbed |
| 23:18.45 | Megalon | then it fires with SWING_MISSED or SPELL_MISSED |
| 23:18.49 | cncfanatics | mmm, wish they cld add who caused the absorbed |
| 23:18.55 | cncfanatics | absorbtion* |
| 23:18.58 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r47 MillHelp.lua: remove old code that cause errors |
| 23:19.02 | Arrowmaster | impossible |
| 23:19.03 | End | harder said than done... |
| 23:19.06 | cncfanatics | true, true |
| 23:19.08 | cncfanatics | although |
| 23:19.09 | Arrowmaster | since absorb effects stack |
| 23:19.43 | cncfanatics | players can't track who's debuff is who's right ? |
| 23:19.47 | cncfanatics | only if its their own or if its not |
| 23:19.55 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 23:20.04 | cncfanatics | so, if we know the stacking mechanics of absorbtion effects |
| 23:20.14 | cncfanatics | then a player can track exactly how much his own buffs absorbed |
| 23:20.24 | cncfanatics | correct ? |
| 23:21.05 | Xinhuan | i believe that the effect with the least absorption remaining left is consumed first |
| 23:21.17 | Xinhuan | the thing is, you do not know which is the least. |
| 23:21.27 | cncfanatics | mmm, if that is the case we're screwed indeed |
| 23:21.29 | Xinhuan | and absorption shields vary in strength by spellpower as well |
| 23:21.33 | cncfanatics | I always thought it was the one with least time left |
| 23:21.34 | nevcairiel | apparently the disc priest proc shield is consumed before the pw:s |
| 23:21.58 | Xinhuan | yeah because the proc shield has a lesser absorption value |
| 23:22.09 | Nenue` | absorb mechanics are not presently very clearly in-game |
| 23:22.27 | Nenue` | and information related to damage absorption is equally partial |
| 23:22.38 | cncfanatics | what classes got absorbtion effects anyhow ? |
| 23:22.40 | cncfanatics | except for priests |
| 23:22.51 | Xinhuan | mages (frost ward, fire ward, mana shield) |
| 23:22.55 | Nenue` | priests, paladins, and any sort of ward ability |
| 23:23.00 | Xinhuan | trinkets can proc shields too |
| 23:23.10 | Aeyan | DK dome, paladin sacred shield |
| 23:23.11 | Nenue` | cheat death is or was a temporary absorb |
| 23:23.12 | Arrowmaster | warlocks (shadow ward, soul link) |
| 23:23.16 | Speeddy | I was about to post a project and noticed the "huge warning".. GG, cause its making me ask this next question. |
| 23:23.25 | Xinhuan | shaman shield reduces damage too |
| 23:23.32 | Xinhuan | does it? |
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| 23:23.34 | cncfanatics | dmg reducing ain't an absorb effect afaik |
| 23:23.48 | cncfanatics | soul link is a split, thats something else too I think |
| 23:24.01 | End | IIRC, soul link marks it as absorb |
| 23:24.03 | Arrowmaster | soul link shows as an absorb i thought |
| 23:24.27 | Arrowmaster | i dont know i have it but never pay attention to it |
| 23:24.32 | Speeddy | If a project hasn't been updated recently and doesn't work, and someone (me in this case) rewrites the addon using some of the old addon's code, but in the process ports it from Ace2 to Ace3, would it be enough of a non-derivative work to where the port'er can be considered the addon's author? |
| 23:24.35 | Nenue` | soul link absorbs damage for as long as the pet can take that hit |
| 23:24.46 | Megalon | earth shield is reactive healing |
| 23:24.50 | cncfanatics | Speeddy: depends on the licenbse |
| 23:24.52 | cncfanatics | license even |
| 23:25.06 | End | Speeddy: technically you should be asking a lawyer that sort of question ;-P |
| 23:25.17 | Speeddy | no license |
| 23:25.22 | Speeddy | http://www.wowace.com/projects/postman/ |
| 23:25.27 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1159 GridRoster.lua: |
| 23:25.30 | Repo | Save party state (solo/raid/etc.) so that the right layout can be loaded when logging back in during combat. |
| 23:25.38 | Speeddy | ah hell |
| 23:25.44 | Speeddy | i just noticed he made a new addon |
| 23:25.45 | cncfanatics | if its public domain, you can do whatever the hell you want |
| 23:26.02 | Speeddy | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/mailbox-complete/ |
| 23:26.07 | Hirsute | Well, it isn't public domain, even if he doesn't specify a license. |
| 23:26.07 | cncfanatics | anyone can give me a nonelite noninstanced mob that does shadow dmg ? |
| 23:26.10 | cncfanatics | gonna test this with fear ward |
| 23:26.17 | Hirsute | He has to declare it public domain for it to be public domain. |
| 23:26.29 | cncfanatics | what are unlicensed things then ? |
| 23:26.32 | End | fear ward? |
| 23:26.36 | Arrowmaster | all rights reserved |
| 23:26.39 | cncfanatics | shadow ward* |
| 23:26.40 | Hirsute | ^^ |
| 23:26.50 | End | shadow ward is absorb |
| 23:27.05 | Xinhuan | the voidspawns in netherstorm, cncfanatics |
| 23:27.14 | cncfanatics | indeed, thank you |
| 23:27.15 | Xinhuan | manaforge ultris |
| 23:27.27 | Speeddy | bah, the "new" addon hasnt been updated either.. |
| 23:27.35 | cncfanatics | closer would be the shadow dmg mobs in hellfire I think |
| 23:27.46 | cncfanatics | those exploding fucks |
| 23:27.54 | Hirsute | An artist/author/owner of a work innately has copyright upon creation of the work unless he specifically waives the right. |
| 23:28.01 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: I seem to have managed to remove the UTF8 byte-order mark from several files (although I discovered, by accident, it before I committed) - what kind of implications does that have? |
| 23:28.04 | Hirsute | *or transfers them to another person. |
| 23:28.09 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: it's just that editors like notepad will fuck up, right? |
| 23:28.33 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: yeah |
| 23:28.48 | vhaarr | so I can, in fact, safely remove it |
| 23:28.53 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 23:28.54 | Speeddy | anyways.. how the hell do i get in touch with an author if their profile on wowace doesn't show anything about how to contact em? |
| 23:28.57 | vhaarr | goodie, thanks |
| 23:29.07 | Xinhuan | in fact its required to be removed if you wanted to test your code on lua -c |
| 23:29.13 | Xinhuan | since it doesn't like the bom mark |
| 23:29.20 | vhaarr | right |
| 23:29.21 | Arrowmaster | thats why i use wowlua |
| 23:29.37 | Arrowmaster | or my own compiled lua with a bunch of patches from wowlua |
| 23:30.09 | Arrowmaster | Speeddy: if they dont list an email in their addon info or toc you dont |
| 23:30.32 | Xinhuan | also try looking at the source code |
| 23:30.35 | Xinhuan | or readme files in the addon |
| 23:30.38 | Xinhuan | if there's any |
| 23:30.43 | Speeddy | ty for mentioning toc.. X-Email |
| 23:30.45 | Arrowmaster | you could try sending either a forum pm or a curse pm and hope they have email notifiations enabled |
| 23:30.49 | Xinhuan | many authors also like to |
| 23:31.01 | Xinhuan | put in their email at the top of their main lua code file |
| 23:33.07 | cncfanatics | mmm, I assume the combatlog doesn't specify the buffid of what caused absorbtion either ? |
| 23:33.29 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 23:33.42 | Xinhuan | it only tells you (Absorbed) |
| 23:33.43 | Xinhuan | and how much |
| 23:33.45 | Xinhuan | that's it |
| 23:34.20 | cncfanatics | why, oh why the lack of info blizz ? |
| 23:34.22 | Xinhuan | you need hella heuristics to determine who casted it if there are overlapping ones |
| 23:34.33 | Arrowmaster | because its impossible to give that kinda info |
| 23:34.56 | cncfanatics | the games knows what buff absorbed damage and who's buff it is |
| 23:35.05 | cncfanatics | they could perfectly add that to the log >.> |
| 23:35.09 | Arrowmaster | unless you want every damage event to cause 1+n events where n is the number of absorb effects in action |
| 23:35.22 | Arrowmaster | no the server knows |
| 23:35.23 | nevcairiel | The server knows it, the client doesn't. And they rarely increase the information send to the client, because it requires protocol changes |
| 23:35.27 | Arrowmaster | i doubt the game does |
| 23:35.47 | Hirsute | WTB Blizz forums search that isn't broken. |
| 23:35.48 | nevcairiel | the 2.4 combatlog didn't actually change the amount of information we get |
| 23:35.52 | nevcairiel | it just made it easier to parse |
| 23:36.08 | Arrowmaster | it changed a few things |
| 23:36.28 | End | get slightly more |
| 23:36.30 | nevcairiel | 3.0 added a few more information to it |
| 23:36.41 | End | unique ids was the big one though ;-) |
| 23:36.55 | Arrowmaster | like before a full absorb wouldnt tell you a damage amount, just absorbed |
| 23:37.19 | Arrowmaster | just that it was all absorbed |
| 23:37.26 | cncfanatics | it does tell now though ? right ? |
| 23:37.32 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 23:37.37 | *** join/#wowace keias (i=bleh@c-69-245-244-213.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 23:37.49 | nevcairiel | even immunity tells you the full amount you evaded, iirc |
| 23:38.02 | nevcairiel | like in ice block |
| 23:38.30 | Xinhuan | well, right now the amount of spellpower a person has affects the total absorption amount |
| 23:38.35 | Xinhuan | on say PW:S |
| 23:38.44 | nevcairiel | talents too |
| 23:38.48 | Xinhuan | so its nearly impossible to detect |
| 23:39.01 | Arrowmaster | the amount of spellpower the caster has right |
| 23:39.02 | Xinhuan | anything but your own absorption values |
| 23:39.06 | Xinhuan | yeah caster |
| 23:39.25 | Arrowmaster | target would be a weird bug |
| 23:39.25 | Xinhuan | and there's a near unlimited source of buffs and procs that can change spellpower values |
| 23:39.28 | Xinhuan | esp talents |
| 23:40.03 | cncfanatics | pw:s is affected by a stupid amount of factors indeed |
| 23:40.24 | Xinhuan | furthermore, not all absorption effects are |
| 23:40.27 | Xinhuan | number based |
| 23:40.30 | Xinhuan | like absorb X damage |
| 23:40.32 | Xinhuan | some are absorb X% |
| 23:40.40 | Xinhuan | and those stack |
| 23:40.46 | Xinhuan | like pW:S on a warlock with soullink |
| 23:40.59 | Xinhuan | we aren't even sure which one takse effect first |
| 23:41.05 | cncfanatics | I'm assuming soul link takes in effect first |
| 23:41.11 | cncfanatics | if not soul link would be useless till pw:s is gone |
| 23:41.27 | Xinhuan | i believe the pw:s has precedence |
| 23:41.29 | Arrowmaster | that should be easy to test |
| 23:41.35 | Arrowmaster | see if the demon takes damage |
| 23:41.39 | Xinhuan | that is, both lock and pet takes 0 damage |
| 23:41.41 | cncfanatics | and that one is indeed easy to test |
| 23:41.44 | Xinhuan | until pw:s is gone |
| 23:42.12 | cncfanatics | the only thing I hope is that absorbtion presedence is not based on the amount of shield left |
| 23:42.24 | cncfanatics | if it isn't, an accurate meter for yourself is actualy possible |
| 23:42.38 | Xinhuan | i believe it is .. for equal precedence shields |
| 23:42.45 | Xinhuan | some shields have lower precendence |
| 23:42.48 | Xinhuan | mana shield has lower |
| 23:42.58 | cncfanatics | shadow ward & pw:s should have the same precedence ? |
| 23:43.03 | Xinhuan | unsure |
| 23:43.36 | Xinhuan | there's also a possibility precendence can be based on expiry time (unlikely), and based on the earliest casted one |
| 23:43.50 | Xinhuan | or a mixture of all of the above |
| 23:43.55 | cncfanatics | it would make sense for the one with the least time left to absorb first |
| 23:44.01 | Xinhuan | since a mage would always want mana shield to be last |
| 23:44.04 | cncfanatics | if the precedence is equal |
| 23:44.17 | cncfanatics | mana shield being at the very very bottom of precedence makes sense |
| 23:44.25 | Xinhuan | well it makes more sense to abrosb the one with least shield left first |
| 23:44.32 | Xinhuan | because it allows recasting |
| 23:44.36 | Xinhuan | of that shield |
| 23:44.49 | Xinhuan | without potentially overwriting part of an older one |
| 23:45.29 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1160 GridCore.lua: |
| 23:45.32 | Repo | Remove old party transition code. It's all handled by GridRoster now. |
| 23:46.22 | cncfanatics | I can test wards with mana shield on my mage |
| 23:46.32 | cncfanatics | can test shadow ward & all priest buffs with my disc priest & a lock change |
| 23:46.38 | cncfanatics | could anyone test some other cases ? |
| 23:46.54 | Xinhuan | gossomer trinket |
| 23:47.24 | Xinhuan | have fun with that lol! |
| 23:47.29 | Xinhuan | gossamer* |
| 23:47.44 | Xinhuan | a hell lot of tanks use that |
| 23:47.51 | taleden | how should minor library version be tagged? should I tag "1.0.0" and later tag "1.0.1" when the revision changes, or just tag "1.0" on every revision until there's a BC break? |
| 23:47.55 | cncfanatics | a friend of mine has that |
| 23:47.58 | cncfanatics | can test that with him |
| 23:48.20 | cncfanatics | thanks for mentioning it Xinhuan ^^ |
| 23:48.22 | Arrowmaster | taleden: in libstub? |
| 23:48.29 | taleden | no, my own lib |
| 23:48.36 | Arrowmaster | i know but using libstub? |
| 23:48.54 | taleden | yes, in libstub it's MAJOR="Lib-1.0" MINOR=1 for example |
| 23:49.02 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 23:49.03 | Xinhuan | well you see taleden, mylib-1.0 |
| 23:49.07 | Arrowmaster | well you cant use "1.0.1" as a minor |
| 23:49.09 | Xinhuan | and mylib-1.1 is 2 different libs |
| 23:49.10 | cncfanatics | currently my glyph of PW:S does 6% of my healing |
| 23:49.13 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4948 / (34 files in 5 directories): |
| 23:49.15 | Xinhuan | as far as libstub is concerned |
| 23:49.17 | Repo | Change the way we register modules so that we can catch when a module is being re-registered. Print a big fat warning to the user telling him to reinstall his BigWigs addons if this occurs. The old way of registering modules still works, but won't invoke this new warning if appropriate. |
| 23:49.19 | taleden | yes I realize that |
| 23:49.21 | vhaarr | NivFreak: ^ |
| 23:49.30 | Xinhuan | because "mylib-1.0" and "mylib-1.1" is 2 different strings |
| 23:49.30 | NivFreak | vhaarr: hi |
| 23:49.36 | taleden | I understand the purpose of putting "1.0" in the "MAJOR" part |
| 23:49.39 | taleden | <-- not an idiot |
| 23:49.43 | taleden | I'm asking about svn tagging |
| 23:49.44 | Funkeh` | big fat ass commit |
| 23:49.46 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r48 MillHelp.lua: -fix herb tooltips |
| 23:49.48 | Repo | -swap order on ink tooltips |
| 23:49.50 | Xinhuan | so when you tag, its really just 1.0.minor |
| 23:49.52 | Funkeh` | 34 files |
| 23:49.52 | Torhal | You can't tage with the same tage |
| 23:49.52 | NivFreak | vhaarr: thank you |
| 23:50.00 | Funkeh` | tage? |
| 23:50.01 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1161 GridRoster.lua: Handle jumping from one BG to another. |
| 23:50.03 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: let me know if I forgot any files :p |
| 23:50.03 | Xinhuan | its 1.0 basically |
| 23:50.07 | Torhal | So either: MyLib 1.0-r43 or MyLib-1.0.1 |
| 23:50.13 | Torhal | s/tage/tag |
| 23:50.13 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 23:50.17 | Arrowmaster | if you are using svn either just bump the minor when you make changes or use svn:keyword $Rev$ |
| 23:50.18 | taleden | ok, so something tagged "Lib-1.0" means first revision of 1.0? and if there's ever a minor update you have to tag it "Lib-1.0.1" ? |
| 23:50.30 | thul | http://fc28.deviantart.com/fs40/i/2009/036/2/d/Cold_Bicycle_by_cainadamsson.jpg |
| 23:50.32 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: you can tag, it should (tm) work fine, but I haven't tested it |
| 23:50.45 | cncfanatics | someone, easyest way to get combatlog data out of game ? |
| 23:50.53 | Arrowmaster | taleden: are you talking about svn tags? |
| 23:51.07 | taleden | mostly I'm trying to figure out if there's any sensible way to tag things such that people can use an external that will get them, for example, the latest beta tag of 1.0 |
| 23:51.11 | cncfanatics | clear the combat log file in WoW/ , do tests, and then use the log file I guess ? |
| 23:51.11 | taleden | whether that's 1.0.0 or 1.0.90 |
| 23:51.27 | Xinhuan | i would just tag it "r43", because the zip would end up being "mylib-1.0-r43" |
| 23:51.28 | taleden | but without external-ing to trunk, which will pull potentially unstable alphas |
| 23:51.43 | Arrowmaster | taleden: the sensible way is to external trunk |
| 23:51.50 | Arrowmaster | and not make trunk unstable |
| 23:51.57 | taleden | so that means, forbidding public commits |
| 23:52.05 | taleden | lest someone break it and some addon package it while broken |
| 23:52.06 | Xinhuan | you can comit to branches |
| 23:52.06 | taleden | from trunk |
| 23:52.14 | Xinhuan | then test branches, and merge to trunk |
| 23:52.36 | taleden | sure, but again that means forbidding public commits or risking someone breaking it who doesn't know how it's supposed to work |
| 23:52.37 | taleden | right? |
| 23:52.44 | Xinhuan | generally yes |
| 23:52.45 | Torhal | Aye |
| 23:52.45 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 23:52.49 | taleden | pity |
| 23:53.07 | Arrowmaster | public commits arent worth it imho, too many fuck tards messing shit up |
| 23:53.15 | Arrowmaster | i had to site ban somebody the other night again |
| 23:53.41 | Torhal | The guy who was AddonLoadering everything? |
| 23:53.45 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 23:53.47 | Torhal | Heh |
| 23:53.50 | cncfanatics | AddonLoadering ? |
| 23:54.06 | Arrowmaster | he was adding addonloader stuff to tocs and breaking addons |
| 23:54.25 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Kilroo@cpe-098-026-168-017.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 23:56.10 | Torhal | Xinhuan: Speaking of which, that same guy added GatherMate's config to Blizz options. |
| 23:56.44 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4949 Core.lua: Make sure we error out if the revision argument is missing. |
| 23:57.05 | vhaarr | bah |
| 23:57.07 | Arrowmaster | yeah i told him he should revert it since the gathermate config isnt designed to look good in the blizz options |
| 23:57.27 | Arrowmaster | and if its in the blizz options people will use that instead of the real config then bitch about it sucking |
| 23:57.30 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4950 Core.lua: Bah, fix. |
| 23:57.54 | vhaarr | NivFreak: care to test? |
| 23:58.38 | taleden | speaking of which, is there any way to close the blizzard config panel from lua? |
| 23:59.00 | taleden | I have my blizzard config just show an addon-enable toggle and a button to launch the aceconfig gui |
| 23:59.09 | taleden | and I'd prefer to close the bliz one when the button is clicked, rather than leave them both up |
