IRC log for #wowace on 20090204

00:00.09Xinhuanyou see, in gathermate, we store zonetable = {[coord] = nodeID, [coord] = nodeID}
00:00.29Xinhuanin gatherer, they store zonetable = {{data on one node}, {data on one node}, {data on one node}...}
00:00.32winkillerit's enough
00:00.38Xinhuanwhere {data on one node} is a table consisting of 7 fields
00:00.54XinhuanX, Y, last seen, data source, seen how many times
00:00.54BrunersXinhuan: routes, tabu zones should be defined before you add a route?
00:00.57thulhttp://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/?p=9353
00:01.01Arrowmasteris zonetable indexed with GetRealZoneText()?
00:01.13Xinhuanin gathermate, zonetable is indexed as an integer
00:01.22Xinhuanwe number every zone from 1-N
00:01.31Xinhuanthis integer is in constants.lua
00:01.38Xinhuanthat is every mapFile --> int
00:01.57XinhuanBruners, can be either
00:02.08Xinhuantaboo regions need to be manually attached to a route
00:02.14Xinhuanthey don't attach by default
00:02.44Xinhuanthat is, routeX can be using TabooA and TabooB, and routeY can be using TabooC
00:02.56Xinhuanand X, Y, A, B, C are all in the same zone
00:03.38Xinhuanand of course, you need to reoptimize after attaching taboos
00:03.55Brunerswill do another shot with taboos then
00:04.09Xinhuanthe idea is, you create routes and taboos independantly, and then link them together
00:04.30winkillerit's such a nice idea
00:04.36winkillerbut if you, like me, never farm
00:04.44winkillerit's a waste of RAM to install it :)
00:05.00Xinhuanoh i've used it to farm everfrost chips, blood of heroes, etc ;p
00:05.11Xinhuanor mark perimeter boundaries of rare spawns
00:05.21Xinhuanand their patrol paths
00:05.28winkillerall not of interest to me :P
00:05.40winkillermaybe I could mark the damn eversong carrots
00:05.47winkillerbut that'd be idiotic
00:06.08Xinhuanyou could, but if you think of it that way, you won't be doing that quest once you hit 100 awards
00:07.25Arrowmasteri only do the ones that dont require me to supply mats anyway
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00:10.54Xinhuanthey all require chilled meat
00:11.00Xinhuanso you have to supply mats
00:11.06Xinhuan(or rhino dogs)
00:11.18Xinhuanonly the cheese one doesn't i think
00:11.33ShefkiCheese one is stupid annoying.
00:11.49ShefkiI'd rather do the Ledgermaine one than the stupid cheese one.
00:12.05Wobinand the mushroom one
00:12.13Wobinthat's just mushrooms and wine, isn't it?
00:12.14ShefkiI don't mind the Mushroom one.
00:12.22Xinhuanmushroom one reqiores 2 chilled meat
00:12.24ShefkiMushroom is 4 shrooms and 2 child meat.
00:12.36Xinhuanchild meat
00:12.39WobinHm, I have so much chilled meat, it never even registers
00:12.39Xinhuanon nom nom
00:13.05Wobinwhat about the wine one?
00:13.17Wobinpainful as that is
00:13.17Xinhuanwine one is the cheese one
00:13.30winkillerno, there's a 2nd one with wine
00:13.34WobinI wish they'd up the spawn rate on the wine one
00:13.43Xinhuanit 1 cheese + 6 wine
00:13.43Wobinwhere you collect the half full glasses
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00:14.39Brunersyay, from 81 ms to 523 ms when wintergrasp started
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00:27.59drweirdyea there's the other wine one where its 4 chilled meat, and a purchased bottle of wine..  the 6 wines seem OK, i just run through the public bar, and then the horde inn, usually quite a few
00:31.18NivFreakwinkiller: satrina buff frames
00:31.31winkillerya ty, someone told me
00:31.34NivFreakwinkiller: nm, I see someone answered ;)
00:31.40winkillerdoesn't look like I'd like it :/
00:33.04NivFreakit's amazing
00:33.11NivFreakwhy wouldn't you like it?
00:33.53NivFreakbuffs/debuffs are insane in wrath, I don't know how people manage without something to sort/place them
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00:37.33drweirdim still using Elks buff bars,  but i have them split out to show > 50sec buffs in one window,  < 30 sec buffs in another (so i can more easily see procs on me),  debuffs in one window.. and a special window i set for things like watching the turtle buffs, etc.
00:38.05NivFreakSBF lets me just shift-click a buff and move it to any defined frame
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00:38.26drweirdmspolo wanted me to write him an addon that would remind him to redo his seals, and i was like 'if one doesnt exist.. EBB and set it to only show less than 15 seconds, and filter on seals, and put it smack dab in the middle)..   but he's looking for a GRID type interface, where it just comes up and her clicks it and it re-casts
00:38.42NivFreakso I have a general buff frame way off to the right, a HoT/ES buff frame beside it, debuffs right near my model, and a focus frame above my head
00:38.53NivFreakI use the focus frame for things like sword & board procs
00:38.56NivFreakbloodsurge
00:38.58NivFreakart of war
00:38.58NivFreaketc
00:41.52winkillermhm, when I look at the "choose character"-screen on the official forums.. is 31 chars on an account too much? :P
00:42.15Megalon51 would be too much i think
00:42.44ShefkiYeah limit is 50 chars.
00:42.58ShefkiIn the past it was possible to get past 50 chars though I believe that's fixed.
00:50.40waallenhas anyone experiecend inaccuracies in the last ratingbuster revision with AP's displaying?
00:53.04RepoNew announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/curse-client-2-1-rc1-release/
00:53.51pompywaallen: which revision?
00:54.28Brunerswaallen: yep
00:54.43pompyr206 had this '- Fixed error in AP summary'
00:55.22ArrowmasterKaelten|away: bad kaelten, using eqcompare instead of tekkompare
00:57.09Gnarfozwhy would anyone use either when it's built-in
00:57.22Arrowmasterthey dont want to hold shift?
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00:58.12Gnarfozoh right, I forgot when I wanted to compare everything all the time ^^
00:58.39Kaeltenhello
00:59.31Zhinjioheya
01:03.32cloudwolfCan any one here help me with binding a key to a fucntoin inside my lua? i tried SetBinding("C",statframe) to try and run the function everytime c is pressed but it doesn't seem to work.
01:04.49NivFreakKaelten: hi, so when do we get a mac CC client? :)
01:05.02Kaeltendid you even read what I wrote!
01:05.03Kaelten:P
01:05.05NivFreakno
01:05.17Kaeltenhttp://www.wowace.com/announcements/curse-client-2-1-rc1-release/#w_the-mac-version
01:05.26NivFreakthanks
01:05.31Kaelten:P
01:05.42NivFreakah great
01:05.46NivFreak<-- early tester
01:05.57Kaeltentrust me you couldn't stop me from sending it to you
01:06.00NivFreakhaha
01:06.12Kaelten:P
01:06.34NivFreakthe truths of the interweb
01:06.39NivFreakpeople don't read everything you write ;)
01:06.48NivFreakbut I'll read it if you tell me to ;)
01:06.57Kaeltenyeah, go read it :P
01:07.08NivFreakI did
01:07.10cloudwolfany body? help with my message up above? XD
01:07.26NivFreakI need to try the latests windows RC and see if I can repro that same problem I had last time
01:07.53NivFreakit uninstalled addons it couldn't find on curse, even though they weren't selected in the UI
01:07.57BrunersKaelten: will there be a linux client?
01:08.04NivFreakand I'm about 90% sure I know why :)
01:08.09KaeltenBruners: no promises one way or the other
01:08.22Kaeltenbut I hear it can work well under wine
01:08.25NivFreakit doesn't
01:08.29NivFreakat least not mac wine :)
01:08.32NivFreakor crossover
01:08.38KaeltenNivFreak: works well under paralles
01:08.44NivFreakthat does me no good :P
01:08.58Brunersnobody cares for OSX :P
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01:09.07NivFreakyou know, I actually made a network share on my mac, and pointed the windows updater at it
01:09.11NivFreakbut I got tired of waiting
01:09.15Kaeltenhttp://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=264269&postcount=1037
01:09.16NivFreakthe latency killed it
01:09.27Zhinjioinstalling rc1
01:09.34KaeltenNivFreak: ^
01:09.47NivFreakthere's 1 data point
01:09.47NivFreak;)
01:10.06KaeltenZhinjio: :)
01:10.14waallenpompy: I am using r207
01:10.46ZhinjioKaelten: is there a way to get it to completely ditch what it knows and re-read the directory?
01:11.34ZhinjioI wanted to see if I can get it to stop recommending nolib versions
01:11.44Kaeltenbeing frankly honest, the client still isn't perfect, it has it's quirks, and there is at least one random crash when you try to exit (but hey either way the app shuts down).  But it's soo much better than 2.0 we can't just keep delaying it and let 700k users suffer
01:12.03Zhinjionodnods!
01:12.05KaeltenZhinjio: delete the .log files under your settings folders
01:12.26Zhinjiook
01:12.47winkillersecond last paragraph of announcement: s/insure/ensure/? :P
01:13.08ZhinjioI thought I had completely uninstalled. Trying again
01:13.23Zhinjiooh, and when you uninstall, it sends you http://www.curse.com/msgs/default.aspx?MessageID=32
01:13.24Kaeltenthanks winkiller
01:13.33Zhinjiowhich gives access denied
01:13.34Zhinjio(still)
01:13.39Kaeltengah
01:13.41Kaeltenno one told me that
01:13.45KaeltenI'll make a ticket
01:13.52ZhinjioI made a ticket a long time ago
01:14.00Kaeltenwell... um....
01:14.03Zhinjiono idea what happened to it
01:14.05Kaeltenlol
01:14.07winkillerhehe, true
01:14.10winkillerI just got it
01:14.22KaeltenZhinjio: was that the old client or the new client or both?
01:14.31winkillerI uninstalled .14
01:14.47Zhinjiothat is the latest one, and every version I've ever had
01:15.46KaeltenZhinjio: so the beta included then, k
01:16.00Zhinjioyup
01:16.14ZhinjioI just uninstalled rc1 so I could start fresh again
01:16.26Zhinjioand just figured out where my settings dir is, and deleted that as well
01:16.53winkillerAWESOME
01:17.02winkillerit seems to be able to update 2 copies of wow
01:17.21Kaeltenyep
01:17.26waallenthere is still no way to updated without externals, right?
01:17.29waallen-d
01:17.48Kaeltenset your preferences to alternate packages
01:18.17waallennice
01:18.24Zhinjiook, thanks... its rescanning from scratch. perfect.
01:19.18Zhinjioyay! Its not pushing nolib versions now.
01:19.29Kaeltenlol
01:19.46Kaeltenyeah, there where a lot of logic bugs in the selected addons logic, :s
01:20.18winkillerFind an Addon -> links seem unclickable in the description section. works for installed addons. weird
01:20.21winkillerinvestigates
01:20.25ZhinjioHAHAHA!
01:20.48Zhinjiofor just a second, i glanced up in the corner of the client, and for a second, it looked like it said "All your addons are belong to us"
01:21.04Zhinjiothat was hilarious
01:21.41Kaeltenwinkiller: they're working for me
01:21.44KaeltenZhinjio: lol
01:21.49winkillermhm
01:22.09winkillernope
01:22.15winkillerneither on wow1 nor on wow2
01:22.19winkillerjust the installed ones
01:22.31Kaeltenhrm
01:22.35winkillerFind an Addon -> Ace 3
01:22.43winkillerAuthors are blue and underlined
01:22.45winkillernot clickable
01:22.54winkillerchange log is clickable, biut wont open a window
01:22.55Kaeltenoooh, you're right
01:23.02Kaeltenauthors is blue and not clickable
01:23.18Repo10magicrunes: 03dhedbor * r38 modules.xml: Added missing modules.xml
01:23.27winkillerview and more works
01:24.15Xinhuanhow does "find an addon" search?
01:24.37Repo10addon-loader: 03merah * r77 Conditions.lua: AUCTION_HOUSE_SHOW ~= AUCTIONHOUSE_SHOW
01:24.47Xinhuandoes it use the same way curse searches does? (and we know curse searches still don't turn up addons that match)
01:25.47KaeltenXinhuan: simple contain queries
01:25.50Kaeltenbasically
01:26.00Kaeltenso no it's different than curse
01:26.02Kaeltenand it's all local
01:26.50Xinhuancan i assume there is no plans for a svn/git client inside CC? ;p
01:27.05Arrowmastertoo complex
01:27.05KaeltenXinhuan: not at the moment, but I'd not rule it out either, but it won't be immediate
01:27.10HunterZ0good luck with that
01:27.13Xinhuanlol
01:27.29winkiller"The post you requested cannot be found or no longer exists. The administrator or moderator may have deleted the post." on "view addon website" - are those abandoned ones?
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01:27.42Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r746 / (17 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 4 lines)
01:27.45Repo-- v3.00.08.17 beta (r)
01:27.48Repo-- Consumable.Food.Feast -> category "Food: Feast"
01:27.51Repo-- Feast added to the clickable button.  (Need to split it into multiple buttons, its getting unwieldy).
01:27.54Repo-- In move button mode, Button name is now the tooltip once more.
01:27.55Arrowmasterwhats the url?
01:27.58Kaeltenwinkiller: for which addon?
01:28.04NeoTron... and now MagicRunes IconDisplay should work too
01:28.05winkillerpossessions, 9 months
01:28.06winkillerhttp://wow.curse.com/msgs/default.aspx?MessageID=9
01:28.25winkilleralso improvederrorframe
01:28.35Kaeltenhrm that must be in your installed addons
01:28.51winkillerunknown addons .-> best match
01:28.59winkillerit works for 90% though
01:28.59Kaeltenah, hrm
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01:29.19winkillerlooks very nice in general
01:30.19ShefkiKaelten: If you want to see something weird on curse go here:
01:30.20Shefkihttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/tags/bags/default.aspx
01:30.25ShefkiThen click on Hits to sort by hits.
01:30.42Kaeltenlol
01:30.44Kaeltenthat is weird
01:31.09Kaeltenwinkiller :)
01:31.21winkillerno, I didn't break it!
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01:31.41ArrowmasterKaelten: oh yeah wtf is up with the curse tags?
01:31.41ShefkiIf you look at the url it's putting the tag in the URL and then tags also in the args.
01:31.47Arrowmasterhow the fuck do you edit them
01:31.57ShefkiHowever, fixing that doesn't fix the display.
01:32.24ShefkiOhh and everything seems to have 0 stars now.
01:32.27waallenI reinstalled all the addons without externals and everytime I start the CC it tells me that there is a new update available for BugSack, happening to anyone else?
01:32.50Kaeltenhrm
01:32.51Shefkiwaallen: BugSack might have a corrupt zip or at least one thatt's corrupted enough to hose CC.
01:32.55KaeltenI'll point the curse guys back on those
01:32.58ShefkiSeen it before.
01:33.02waallenOk, thanks
01:33.18ShefkiWhatever CC uses to extract zips is picky.
01:33.28Kaeltenwaallen: hrm
01:33.30winkilleroh shit, that's weird
01:33.35Kaeltenwinkiller: uhoh, what?
01:33.43winkillersec
01:33.56Arrowmasteryeah they need to just embed 7zip instead of using some picky zip handler
01:34.13winkillerBigWigs (install type beta) installed: 4833-release / latest 4921-release
01:34.16winkillerI update it
01:34.24winkillerdownloading
01:34.37winkillerinstalled = 4921-release
01:34.57winkillerI set postal-from "release" to "beta"
01:35.07winkillerhit refresh
01:35.14winkillerand bigwigs is 4833 again
01:35.30winkillerinstall type = beta still
01:36.34winkillerafter downloading just refreshing already sets it back
01:36.46winkillerso ignore from "I set postal"
01:41.07Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r747 AutoBarDB.lua: -- Make drag setting default to true for Openable Button
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01:54.02Kaeltenwinkiller: on bigwigs?
01:54.19winkilleryeah
01:54.30Repo10big-wigs: 03Dessa * r4940 Extras/Tranq.lua: update Tranq Shot's CD to the correct value for 3.0.8
01:54.35winkillerI update bigwigs and after a refresh it's unupdated
01:54.40Kaeltenhrm
01:54.45Kaeltenit could be nothing changed.....
01:54.47winkillerdidnt look at files, sec
01:54.51Kaeltenbut no that shouldn't be it
01:55.07winkillerfiles are new
01:55.12winkillerjust the display is obsolete
01:58.41Kaeltenwinkiller: I can't get that to reproduce
01:58.54winkillerrestarting client, trying again
01:59.56winkillerstill shows 4833 installed, but toc says 4921
02:00.34Hjaltewinkiller: What is your Install Type for Bigwigs?
02:02.43KaeltenHjalte: I think he said beta
02:02.52HjalteHmm, that
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02:02.58HjalteThat's right. He did.
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02:03.05HjalteI had sort of the same problem before I think.
02:04.30sztanpetoh btw Kaelten the "some of your addons are out of date" text doesnt fit into the window, but you guys probably know about that one
02:04.54Kaeltensztanpet: it fixes on resize
02:05.02Kaelten:s
02:06.27sztanpetbtw if i install my addons without externals, will CC seperate those dependancies so i dont see them mixed with my addons and track if one got removed from an addon and remove that too?
02:07.28Kaeltensztanpet: not yet
02:15.56Brunersis there a more optimal way i can look for events? http://paste.wowace.com/242/
02:16.37NivFreakoooh, we get no-externals support back?
02:17.39KaeltenNivFreak: yep
02:18.10NivFreakok... so now I have to start updating on windows, and rsyncing back the mac
02:18.19NivFreakmy load times will thank you
02:19.01Kaeltenlol
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02:23.17kenlyricyou have saved .5 seconds
02:23.22kenlyriccollect your sign
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02:25.48Kuja^hmm CC dosn't work with wine for me :(
02:27.08NivFreakKuja^: or me
02:27.14NivFreakKuja^: there's 3 data points :)
02:27.25Zhinjioit works for me when I drink wine.
02:27.32Zhinjioand it seems to work better the more I drink!
02:27.48NivFreakheh
02:28.09kenlyric~curseclient
02:28.10purlsomebody said curseclient was New beta released at: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/files/5-curse-client-2-1-1-2-beta-1-update-exe-only/ Post all suggestions at http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/
02:28.43NivFreaker
02:28.47NivFreakthere's a newer one
02:29.46Ackisit'll auto update :P
02:29.49Brunersanyone of you that are using TellMeWhen and is installing with CC?
02:30.10NivFreakAckis: are you sure? :)
02:30.21AckisNivFreak: it *should* auto-update :P
02:30.27NivFreak:)
02:30.29Brunersit auto updates here at least
02:30.44NivFreakI had some version that didn't, it was probably an older alpha
02:30.46Brunersand just did 2 mins ago
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02:33.43LywellynSo going on Curse to post a bug for PitBull, and I see that there's a 4.0 now.  Is it ready for a switch from 3.0?
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02:34.02Arrowmasternot really
02:34.24Arrowmasterand nobody cares about pitbull3 so your bug report will likely be completely ignored
02:34.31Brunersbut PB3 is no longer maintained afaik so no point reporting bugs
02:34.34LywellynAwesome.
02:34.38LywellynThat's helpful.
02:34.55Arrowmasteryou can use 4 but its not 100% complete
02:37.20Brunerswhat you could do is tell us what bug you have and maby we can help you fix it
02:38.12NivFreakor you can uninstall all your ckknight addons and run
02:39.44LywellynI'd love to tell you the bug, but according to Arrowmaster it would likely be ignored, so I didn't bother >.>
02:40.05Lywellynbut suffice to say, the buff filtering doesn't allow my mage to see Focus Magic or either of Dalaran Intellect or Dalaran Brilliance.
02:40.07Brunersmost likely it will
02:40.14waallenThe only thing I miss in PB4 are the options for the bufftimers for the aura module but apart that the switch from 3.0 was quite smooth
02:40.32Arrowmasteryeah disable buff filtering
02:40.54Lywellynthat doesn't really help because then I see *all* buffs on the party, including the ones I really don't care about.
02:42.47Lywellynooh, I think I see where to add them to the list.
02:42.53RaydenUif you are phased for the end of the dragonblight quests, does it affect you if you go into an enemy city?
02:43.05Arrowmasterdepends on the city
02:43.15WobWorkPS
02:43.18Arrowmasteronly org and uc are phased afaik
02:43.23WobWorksomeone needs to write an addon to the heigan mod for bigwigs
02:43.28WobWorkthat puts up DDR arrows on the screen
02:43.37NeoTronexcellent!
02:43.40NeoTronGreat!
02:44.26waallenhttp://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/14910061127-wow-banned-in-australia-according-to-ign.html ouch
02:44.43WobWorko.O
02:45.31WobWorkI could have sworn AoC was classified
02:46.00WobWorkAlso
02:46.06WobWorkWhy can't they just ... classify it?
02:46.10WobWorkit's not that difficult
02:46.25WobWorkMA 13+ "Cartoon Violence"
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02:49.39TradeMarkif they follow that logic then more than just MMOs are going to be affected
02:50.10TradeMarkpretty much any online-only game would be >.>
02:50.26TradeMarkTF2, CS spring to mind
02:50.33Brunersso by playing wow on australia you could go to prison ?
02:51.29TradeMarkin NSW
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02:57.49WobWorker
02:57.52WobWorkthe fines etc
02:57.56WobWorkare for -selling- the game
02:58.00WobWorknot buying...?
02:58.40WobWorkYou couldn't prosecute the purchasers =P
02:58.42quiescensprobably
02:58.45WobWorkCause they're going to be underage =P
02:58.57quiescensnono
02:58.58quiescenslegally
02:59.12quiescensyou're allowed to own whatever
02:59.25WobWork"...the NSW Classification Enforcement Act prohibited publishers and retailers from selling unclassified computer games"
02:59.27Brunershaha, elders standing outside the shops getting minors to buy gametime for them
03:00.22WobWorkAnd all Blizzard needs to do, is get the game classified
03:00.27WobWorkwhich isn't difficult
03:00.31quiescensit can be
03:00.47quiescensit probably won't be too difficult for wow though at least
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03:01.05WobWorkAll the classification will do is limit sales to certain age
03:01.06WobWorks
03:01.22quiescensbut various things have been refused classification because there is no classification for adults, for games
03:01.23WobWorkAoC would probably be the only one that's even close to 18+
03:01.39quiescensthe silly thing about that is that the classification doesn't *exist*
03:01.39quiescenslol
03:02.09quiescensits not like everywhere else where getting classified 18+ would hurt sales
03:02.10quiescensthe classification doesn't exist which is stupid
03:02.58WobWorkhaving an 18+ classification means that game stores will have to hire +18 employees to sell them, probably =P
03:03.20quiescensthat's hardly a good reason though
03:03.22WobWorkor maybe not
03:03.29WobWorkcause newsagents don't do that
03:03.31quiescenshaving the classification doesn't mean stores have to sell them
03:04.05quiescensit just means it would at least be legal for a store to stock and sell them if they wanted to
03:04.23WobWorkhehe, I can see the "under the counter sales" of WoW =P
03:04.39WobWork"Hey... 10 year old kid... want to buy some... WoW...?"
03:07.03RaydenUwho is proposing this?
03:07.24RaydenUoh australia
03:07.49quiescensnot proposing as such
03:08.03quiescensthe silly classification system has been an issue for a while
03:08.55quiescensthey were saying mmo's get around it by saying that the content can vary
03:09.10quiescensbecause what they ship isn't exactly what gets played
03:14.52kenlyricthe user-created content can vary
03:15.51kenlyricbut australia is like the new victorian england
03:16.44quiescensplus various patches that actually add content and that sort of thing
03:16.51quiescensprobably runs afoul of classification boards too
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03:19.58RaydenUmy guild is doing enemy king kills
03:20.08RaydenUso people have alt spies reporting on enemy positions
03:20.12RaydenUonly they didn't know who the other spies were
03:20.17RaydenUso they were all reporting on each other
03:28.14TradeMarkfor 10-man 2 drakes, Tenebron + Vesperon is the best option?
03:29.20HjalteTradeMark: Yes.
03:33.34TradeMarkand assuming tenebron is down before vesperon lands, basically ignore the disciple until vesperon dies..?
03:33.46TradeMarkis meant to be raid leading our first attempt tonight
03:36.03quiescensyou can do it trademark
03:36.07quiescenswe have faith in you
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03:36.59WobWorkhehe
03:37.08WobWorksomeone should write a ui mod that puts boobies everywhere
03:37.14WobWorkjust to mess with the classifiers
03:37.38TradeMarkzomg I think you might be onto something
03:37.45TradeMarkwatch porn and raid, at the same time
03:38.20WobWorkhehe, the lmgtfy feed is great: "Awesome photos of men in gas masks or something"
03:38.30TradeMarkor for a long night of attempts... a strip mod that strips off more the further down you get the boss
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04:13.10RaydenUFor The Horde!
04:14.22cloudwolfcan any one tell me why SetBinding("Y",function() statframe() end) doesn't work when i press the keyijust bound it doesn't actualy run the function?
04:14.29RaydenUjust killed all 4 alliance healers
04:16.35RaydenUer
04:16.40RaydenUnot healers
04:16.41RaydenUbosses
04:17.03Zyndrome05:11.16 ( RaydenU ) just killed all 4 alliance healers
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04:17.05Zyndrome12 hour fight
04:17.20quiescensall 4 healers!
04:17.57WobWorkI wish our ratio on my server were slightly more balanced so that FTH was more feasible
04:18.08WobWorkwe have 70:30 a:h
04:18.53WobWorkso getting together 25 >78s in time before the horde spys catch a wind of the expedition is hard =P
04:19.26Zyndrome25? bring a whole 40!
04:20.25WobWorkahaha
04:20.35WobWork40 likeminded 80s on at the same time? =P
04:20.47WobWorkwe'd turn up
04:20.54WobWorkand alliance would have 50 waiting =(
04:21.11WobWork(while also taking another 40 on each horde boss each)
04:23.22Zyndromewe have a pretty even ratio, but Horde are such slowpokes, we down 3 leaders before they go spamming Trade
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04:31.03WobWorkIt just takes too long to get the required number together
04:31.10WobWorkor effective number, anyway
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04:59.51purlextra, extra, read all about it, cc is Candy Cruncher. Download from http://eongames.com/downloads/candycruncher_1.50.11_arm.ipk - pre-release version right now. ClearCase, a CM tool. Curse Client found at http://www.curse.com/client
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08:04.22RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/volumizer/. Volumizer. Torhal (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
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08:06.29HjalteMan, it's hard leveling staff skill when it is giving me 2k attack power just because I'm a druid :\
08:09.34Shefkilol I'm glad I did it before the patch.
08:10.13HjalteFirst time in days that I have to move outside... And today is the first snow of the year!
08:13.43Nenue`how is the light?
08:16.01HjalteThere's not much of it today :)
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10:18.06nevcairiel@describe iq
10:18.08Reponevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/iq/. IQ. Features: Shows ItemLevel Quotient in the Character and Inspect Frame. (gems and items) IQ = item ItemLevel Quotient summary of itemLevel from all items divided through 17 (16 if 2-Hand Weapon) gemIQ...
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10:28.35Kalrothan IQ addon
10:28.40KalrothI could use that :(
10:33.44ShefkiKalroth: Write an addon that makes your party members pass an IQ test with a minimum IQ level before doing a PUG. :P
10:34.01KalrothShefki: What happens if I fail the test myself?
10:35.25MoonWolfKalroth, you don't get to be in the party and they find someone too replace you.
10:35.53Kalroth[4][LFG] [Dkdethnite] LOOKING 4 2 MOR HEELRS FOR RFC, PLZ <IQ Addon: Warning, grouping with this player may give you a bad experience>
10:36.29Shefkilol
10:36.38tamarothhaha
10:37.58ShefkiI wonder if you could write an addon that predicted how good a group will be based on spelling and what not from channel adverts.
10:38.08ShefkiBayesian filtering for groups.
10:38.13nevcairielwould be rather hardto detect that
10:38.22SunTsuKalroth: When do thin you have sth. wie can test? ;)
10:38.22ShefkiNot really actually.
10:38.34SunTsus/thin/&k/
10:38.58Kalroth[4][LFG] [Litlhuntard] LFM 4 nexxus, need tank, heelar and too dps plz <IQ Addon: Warning, this player will make you sit in his party for 2 hours for no reason>
10:39.55KalrothA bayesian sentence score addon would be cool though :p
10:40.03nevcairielYou need an addon that can understand grammar and spelling
10:40.06nevcairieli call complex .P
10:40.10ShefkiNo you don't.
10:40.23ShefkiDoesn't have to understand anything.
10:40.24KalrothNo, it just has to spot the bad words, not the good words :)
10:40.27ShefkiIt's just math.
10:40.27SunTsupurl: Thank you for messing up more than I did ;)
10:40.27purlmy pleasure, SunTsu
10:40.31ZaoNever underestimate the linuguistic inventiveness of the average WoW player.
10:40.45ShefkiYou'd have to seed it though.
10:41.06Kalroth"ur", "u r", "r" and "y" is a good start
10:41.26ZaoShefki: Let someone take a bullet for the team and scan LFG for a day.
10:41.30Kalroththen there's "pls", "plz", "w8", "m8" and other variants
10:41.31SunTsuDDs looking for PUGs for Ahn Kahet is another good start.
10:41.39Megaloni r dps lf loot frm noxxromulus plx
10:42.07ShefkiPeople actually use the DD abeviation in WoW.
10:42.14Shefkiabbreviation*
10:42.31ZaoDD?
10:42.33KalrothI've never seen it used, it's always DPS on my server
10:42.35ShefkiDamage Dealer
10:42.36nevcairielDamage Dealer .. its not too far stretched
10:42.42ZaoSounds EQ-ish.
10:42.44winkillerKalroth: we always type y for yes when in combat and busy
10:42.50nevcairielDD is more common on german realms, though
10:42.51ShefkiIt's what was used on FFXI
10:43.08winkilleryeah, DD is very common on DE-servers
10:43.12Kalrothwinkiller: Sure, then you don't need to type on General, Trade or LFG. :)
10:43.27winkillerKalroth: oh sorry, thought it was about party
10:43.40SunTsuI actually had the worst players pugging for Ahn Kahet heroc. A hunter doing 500 to 700 dps. I told him that I was doing more dps in greens back in Karazhan with my hunter. His reply was: "Hey, this isn't Karazhan, this is only a heroic!"
10:43.42KalrothI don't care about raids or parties, I can always kick people typing "y" or "kk"
10:43.47winkillerand GIEF ... PLX has to be an exception for ironic use
10:44.01winkillerSunTsu: awesome :P
10:44.04ShefkiSunTsu: You should write a book. :P
10:44.16Kalrothplx is worse than pls or plz :)
10:44.27nevcairielpl0x imho
10:44.31KalrothMaking an effort to type like a wanker is bad
10:44.37Kalrothnevcairiel: i h8 u
10:44.39ShefkiWhat's the point in trying to be polite if you can't even type the word... *shrug*
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10:45.04ShefkiI'm so polite I can't even be bothered to type please.  That's what pls and variants scream to me.
10:45.37nevcairielbeing lazy has nothing to do with being impolite, though =P
10:45.37Megaloncan you pls stop writing 'pls', thx!
10:45.44Kalrothnevcairiel: Sure it does
10:46.05Shefkinevcairiel: I'd disagree with that.
10:46.09winkillerty is less letters than thx
10:46.11nevcairielYou don't know how much effort it already takes to write "pls" instead of not writing it!
10:46.11ShefkiBeing polite is mostly about not being lazy.
10:46.12winkillerand commonly accepted
10:46.32Kalrothwinkiller: unaccepted*
10:46.33winkillerpeople really need a third hand
10:46.40winkillerfor mouse + 2 on keyboard
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10:46.49winkillerproblem solved!
10:46.49nevcairielso we can keep one more hand in the pants?
10:46.53tamarothis lilsparky here ?
10:46.55winkillergoes to the lab
10:46.59KalrothI need a third hand for my third leg
10:47.01winkillernevcairiel: damn. ok, 4
10:47.07SunTsuwinkiller: I still find it impolite. I you can't get yourself to do the effort writing a whole word...
10:47.17KalrothSunTsu: If*
10:47.22Kalroth:p
10:47.28winkillerit's the internet
10:47.29nevcairielseriously, dont abreviate if now!
10:47.34Kalrothsrsly!
10:47.35winkiller*shrug*
10:47.38Megalonyou just need a keyboard with the butterfly key!
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10:47.48SunTsuKalroth: Well, that's just a typo ;)
10:47.57KalrothSunTsu: I don't believe you.
10:47.58nevcairieli use srsly for ironic use =P
10:48.04Kalrothnevcairiel: o rly
10:48.06ShefkiSomeone just needs to make a wow addon that expands stuff like ty for people.
10:48.07ZaoAccording to some of my guildmates, it's "posh" to write properly.
10:48.13winkillerhha
10:48.15ShefkiThen they can be lazy and not look lazy.
10:48.39winkillerI try to abbreviate as much as possible when in combat
10:48.42ZaoShefki: How about a chat interface using pictograms to ease communication with those people?
10:48.46winkillerand as this is wow, I'm in combat a lot
10:49.00ShefkiZao: You've got a winner there.
10:49.02winkillerin guildchat I think I never abbreviated anythng but ty
10:49.10nevcairielWhen i'm doing any "serious" fight, i use soem form of voice chat
10:49.14nevcairieltalking is easier then writing
10:49.14Kalrothwinkiller: Just type faster! Alternatively don't fuck up all the time, so you don't have to type.
10:49.21winkilleroh wait, mostly I write "thanks a lot"
10:49.32ShefkiI don't talk much on vent et al
10:49.34nevcairielta?
10:49.36ShefkiI'd rather type.
10:49.49nevcairielwriting while healing = bad
10:50.05ShefkiClick casting makes it pretty easy actually.
10:50.06KalrothI don't like voice comms either, there's always some talkative retard telling his life story
10:50.09winkillersaying "move, ffs" and then having fire spawn on you = bad
10:50.12nevcairielespecially when you are a druid and don't have any casts with castime for a bigger chat window =P
10:50.25winkillerKalroth: play "story of my life" to him
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10:50.28ShefkiAnd I'm a druid.
10:50.33ShefkiResto at that.
10:50.44winkillernevcairiel: haha, so true. I remember Archimonde
10:50.49winkillerspam, spam, spam
10:51.03nevcairielI consider click-casting silly, but something else for everyone *shrug*
10:51.04winkiller(no, I never healed anything but Archimonde)
10:51.21KalrothArchimonde was fun, always a mage or two that crashed in the back
10:51.22ShefkiWhat's silly about holding down a modifier and clicking on a unit frame?
10:51.40Fisker-i almost fainted
10:51.43Fisker-got some spam
10:51.51nevcairielI don't have enough handy modifiers or mosue buttons for all spells i use
10:51.56Fisker-said somethng like "Make your porn disappear"
10:51.56nevcairielalt is self-cast
10:52.03Fisker-and i was liek oh noes
10:52.11ShefkiThere's no reason you can't stil use alt for self cast.
10:52.17ShefkiIt's doesn't interact at all.
10:52.26nevcairielshift feels weird to press for me
10:52.28ShefkiI still use alt+number for self cast.
10:52.30nevcairielso i don't use it
10:52.50KalrothI use F1 for self cast!
10:52.52nevcairieli have a 1.2s GCD or so, enough time to switch target
10:52.56ShefkiI'll admit finding a place for Nourish was a bit of a pain though.
10:52.59nevcairieland i do fine
10:53.05winkillerI have a 1.0 GCD \o/
10:53.12winkillerokok, rogues are cheating
10:54.07nevcairielI tried click-casting for a while, and after a week i went back because i didn't notice being any faster/better, and it kept confusing me
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10:54.58winkillereither you're a clicker or you're a button pusher
10:55.31nevcairielI use my keyboard extensively =P
10:56.02nevcairiel1-4 are my usual spells, plus Q E F G for other spells i use alot
10:56.05nevcairielall easily reachable
10:58.15nevcairielbut something else for everyone, if you can organize your mouse+modifiers good enough to get all spells on there and can play with that .. shrug
10:58.24nevcairielI for one hate clicking the mouse-wheel
10:58.30nevcairielother people use that extensively
10:58.34nevcairielso *shrug*
11:00.24ShefkiMy mouse wheel is for situational bindings.
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11:00.37ShefkiLike ohh I need a macro for this fight.
11:00.52nevcairielmine is for scrolling in editors, and thats where it ends :)
11:01.09ShefkiScrolling it is zoom.
11:01.15nevcairielthat too
11:01.33ShefkiWhen I'm not in a raid I ususally use it to fish though.
11:01.59ShefkiSince I find it conevenient to click the middle button to cast and right click to loot my bobber.
11:02.52nevcairielI use some handy addon that allows me to right click the world frame to cast :)
11:03.32ShefkiYeah I've never felt the need to install an addon to fish.  *shrug*
11:03.53nevcairielI mostly use it to auto-refresh my lure and turn up the bopping sound
11:04.04nevcairielFishermansFriend is pretty simple
11:05.47ShefkiIt can turn up just that one sound?
11:05.59nevcairielnah
11:06.04Trell-whats the name of the ace addon that assigns healing targets?
11:06.09nevcairielbut it can turn down music and other environment shit
11:06.10Trell-well, that you set to assign healing targets
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11:06.31nevcairielas long as you fish in a quite place
11:06.35nevcairieland not in the middle of dalaran
11:06.37nevcairielall is good!
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11:18.57Fisker-kisses nevcairiel
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11:25.05sb|workFisker-: screenshot or didnt happen
11:25.06sb|workerr
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11:42.47Fisker-Id have to say my "putting out the light" which is killing Valen =D.
11:42.47Fisker-Only reason im so proud of it is because We did it before wotlk came out...lvl 80 raid boss at 70 =/
11:42.50Fisker-llololl
11:43.02sb|workhm?
11:43.11Fisker-That's the easiest post pre-wotlk
11:43.25Fisker-it's so easy i even doubt it would've been easier to take Thrall pre-patch
11:43.33Fisker-post = boss
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11:54.12vhaarr~whalenuke Fisker-
11:54.13purlACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Fisker- with his mind powers.
11:55.01Fisker-~whalelove vhaarr
11:55.25vhaarr~~~
11:55.42sb|work~~~~~~~
11:55.43purlACTION lets a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh eat sb|work.
11:55.46vhaarr:P
11:55.50sb|work:(
12:01.02Fisker-vhaarr
12:01.08Fisker-i'm getting a mouse
12:01.10Fisker-WITH COLORS
12:01.20vhaarra live one, you mean?
12:01.22vhaarrblushing mouse
12:01.22Fisker-and over 16 million of them!
12:01.44Fisker-yeah live mouse with built-in LED's
12:02.29vhaarrdon't tell anyone on facebook, you'll get lots of highly controversial ads and polls on your profile
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12:03.36Fisker-social websites are for losers
12:03.40Fisker-...with friends
12:04.22vhaarrhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/4413483/Networking-site-cashes-in-on-friends.html
12:06.15Fisker-i hate that people can make money on it >E
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12:20.26sylvanaargood morning
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12:35.58sb|workFisker-: omg, dont tell me you ordered that wow mouse!?
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12:38.46Fisker-no sb|work
12:38.53Fisker-It's a live mouse
12:38.55Fisker-with LED's
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12:39.16sb|workFisker-: name?
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12:40.01Fisker-Thinking about naming it vhaarr
12:41.26sb|workcool
12:41.34vhaarryou just want to get your hands on me ><
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12:43.05Fisker-yes
12:43.10Fisker-indeed that is the case
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13:06.26Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou 04r40beta * r41 : Tagging as r40beta
13:10.14CrazyBennyI saw in many addon making the wow api function local, e.g. "local GetContainerNumSlots = GetContainerNumSlots", is that just some sort of good practice, or is there any gain in using it?
13:14.31nevcairielYou gain a small speed up
13:15.36CrazyBennyok, thanks
13:15.54nevcairielglobal look ups take some more processing
13:16.05nevcairiellocals or upvalues are faster
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13:35.32Jyggawhat are you guys using to organize your code snippet collection? do you have one? are you just taking stuff from your repo?
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13:38.50ZhinjioG'morning
13:42.54Kalrothmorning Joe!
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13:52.25ZhinjioWho's Joe?
13:53.10ZaoJygga: I've got a snippets repository where I check in any useful code bits together with some short comments on what it does.
13:53.23ZaoJygga: Or rather, that's the plan. There's a lot of "can't be arsed to".
13:53.51Jyggalike some extra svn?
13:54.32tamarothgief some wow lua emulator plz :(
13:54.32Jyggathere has to be a solution that includes sorting, searching, display with syntax highlight and editing capability ...
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13:55.33vhaarrJygga: yeah it's called a text file opened in a capable editor
13:57.51Zhinjiockknight: ping
13:59.18Repo10broker_transit: 03StormFX * r48 / (4 files in 1 directory): - Change to WoWAce's localization system.
13:59.22Repo- Put embeds directly in ToC.
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14:16.08Repo10vanas-ko-s: 03Vana * r345 modules/Importer.lua: VanasKoS: fix
14:18.00Jyggavhaarr ye /find | grep ftw eh ^^
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14:27.09Repo- Hard embed LibDataBroker-1.1
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14:58.22Repo10vanas-ko-s: 03Vana * r346 modules/Importer.lua: VanasKoS: another maybe-fix
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15:07.57Repo10benecast: 03Wintrow2 * r130 / (7 files in 1 directory): No more profiles
15:09.43Grumhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MguArbVMA6w <-- awesome;
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15:14.06pb_ee1omg wazzat
15:14.38pb_ee1please warn before posting such kind of links, some people may die if they aren't warned
15:14.49pb_ee1dies.
15:15.16nevcairiellol
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15:17.09Repo10vanas-ko-s: 03Vana * r347 modules/Importer.lua: VanasKoS: oops
15:23.03ckknightZhinjio: pong
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15:26.21Zhinjiockknight: any thoughts on the priority of that milestone bug I showed you?
15:26.35ckknightoh
15:26.42ckknightthere are more important things right now
15:26.52ckknightI'm being pushed to focus on RoM stuff today
15:26.57Zhinjionods.
15:27.01ckknightblah
15:27.04nevcairielmeh
15:27.08ckknightI don't wanna
15:27.10ckknightRoM sucks
15:27.16nevcairielrather fix the damn ToC/Admin box on the wiki pages
15:27.23nevcairielit drives me nuts =P
15:27.48ckknightnevcairiel: actually, what I was working on yesterday (CSS cleanup) should help with that
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15:28.52ckknightokay, I need to head into the office
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15:37.35steevthul: was able to do this last night - 6 death runes up - http://steev.net/files/screenshots/WoW/WoWScrnShot_020309_222600.jpg
15:37.54quiescensnerf
15:38.05quiescensthere should be like some super attack you can do with 6 death runes!
15:38.13steevheh
15:38.19quiescensfinger of death a la archimonde
15:38.26quiescenszap~!
15:38.32steevwould be cool
15:38.39steevits not extremely easy to get all 6 up
15:38.43pentium166fizzle~!
15:38.57Zyndrome6 death runes ... what kind of odd spec is that D:
15:38.57steevand i don't have access to the spec at the moment cuz i went tank right after for a heroic
15:39.17steevZyndrome: its good for single target dps
15:39.49steevbut its like 21/20/30 or some such
15:40.03SunTsu.o0( A DK who has 6 death runes up should instantly die ;) )
15:40.48steevi also broke 6500 ap in Naxx 10 the other day, there's a screenshot of that
15:41.04steevhttp://steev.net/files/screenshots/WoW/WoWScrnShot_020109_005108.jpg
15:41.07steevthat made me happy
15:41.11Megalonblood strike, blood strike, obliberate, obliberate
15:41.13thulhaha, nice steev :-)
15:41.14Megalonbam, 6 death runes :S
15:41.15steevi prolly coulda gotten it a little higher
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15:42.56steevi *think* that 020109 shot was the first time using the spec
15:43.38steevand i still wish it didn't require heroic naxx or maly to get rings with str on em
15:44.03steevmake em 250 emblems of heroism for all i care - just ffs, give me str rings not agi
15:45.26Fisker-what ring from malygos has strength on it?
15:45.36Fisker-also there's circle of death
15:45.43Fisker-from Sapphirron
15:45.51Yasuosteev: whats that addon showing the items quality?
15:45.54steevmaybe its just naxx - i thought one dropped from mali
15:45.59steevYasuo: oGlow from haste
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15:46.36Megalonand ring of the kirin tor
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15:46.56ulicYasuo: there is an addon called Fizzle that does similar.
15:47.54steevhttp://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.-2&filter=qu=4;minrl=78;cr=20:42;crs=1:4;crv=0:0
15:48.14Kaelteng'morning
15:48.29Megalonstill two tank rings there steev :P
15:48.33HjalteMorning Kaelten
15:48.40steevhttp://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.-2&filter=qu=4;minrl=78;cr=20:42:45;crs=1:4:4;crv=0:0:0
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15:48.55steevMegalon: yeah, noticed that - filtered - now its the 3 rings
15:49.16ulic3 rings to rule them all?
15:49.28steevso you have one, thats 8500g, one that drops in normal naxx (we haven't gotten up to saph yet :( ) and one that drops in heroic
15:49.41ulicgeez, sometime I just can't help being a geek.
15:49.44Yasuosteev: thx
15:52.57Repo10grid-mana-bars: 03Julith * r81 / (2 files in 1 directory):
15:53.00RepoGridManaBars: - changed handling of hiding the mana bar to remove unnecessary calls to grids "PlaceIndicators()"-method (see ticket 5)
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15:53.24steevso
15:56.09thuli wish i knew how to fix my homemademac
15:56.51steevi think cowtip is throwing an error - but the error message i get (only happens when in combat) doesn't actually list any addons, just a function (like UpdateGameTooltip or some such)
15:57.01Stanzillacowtip == broken
15:57.02steevin framexml
15:57.18steevworks fine as long as im not in combat or arenas
15:57.26steevcowtip i mean ;)
15:57.34quiescensI think you may occasionally need your tooltips in combat
15:57.49steevi always hide tooltips when in combat
15:58.29quiescenspeople actually do that?
15:59.34steevwhy do i need them?
15:59.42quiescensiuno
16:00.06steevim level 80 - if i don't know what my own spells do at this point i might as well just go /wrist
16:00.12steevand for enemies
16:00.24steevtab/shift+tab/f
16:00.53steevf 2x=attacking what tank is attacking
16:03.11steevKaelten: 2.1.1.13  rc1 - activity log stays blank
16:04.40Fisker-harassment tiem
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16:07.11ZhinjioG'morning, Kaelten
16:07.19Kaeltensteev: hrm
16:07.25KaeltenFisker-: panda?
16:07.29KaeltenZhinjio: hi hi :)
16:07.37AckisWorkallo Zhinjio
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16:09.06vhaarrXinhuan: right click the Omen header -> Open Config errors
16:09.11vhaarr[2009/02/04 17:08:45-11294-x2]: Omen-3.0.6\Omen.lua:1747: attempt to call method 'ShowConfig' (a nil value)
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16:12.40vhaarrXinhuan: clicking "Test Mode" errors with
16:12.40vhaarr[2009/02/04 17:12:37-11294-x1]: Omen-3.0.6\Omen.lua:1369: attempt to index field 'Options' (a nil value)
16:12.41vhaarrOmen-3.0.6\Omen.lua:1344: in function <Interface\AddOns\Omen\Omen.lua:1342>
16:13.30ZhinjioHeya AckisWork
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16:14.30Brunerswierd, i got the achivement Explore Durotar but got rolled back, so i still got the achivement but dont have the places discovered
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16:22.53Repo10trickortreat: 03falconindy 07master * d092204 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
16:22.56Repod092204: Fixed LibSink-2.0 reference in .pkgmeta
16:22.59Repo77c6869: Fixed LibSink-2.0 reference in .pkgmeta and .toc
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16:28.13Repo10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r158 Coconuts.lua: Coconuts:
16:28.16Repo- Fix for weighting
16:28.21Repo10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander * r168 MiniPet.lua: MiniPet:
16:28.24Repo- Fix for weighting
16:28.35CheadsCC RC1 question: how come the addons name text(category etc.) are written in bold. And what does that icon mean (some white square with a blue horizontal line at the top, and some yellow 'dot' at the top right corner)?
16:29.11quiescensa wizard did it
16:29.24Xinhuanvhaarr?
16:29.30vhaarrhey
16:29.32vhaarrhm?
16:29.37Xinhuanwhat errors
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16:29.53vhaarrXinhuan: I'll copy+paste what I said in privmsg to you so as not to flood the channel
16:30.28Xinhuanerr really?
16:30.41vhaarryeah just now
16:30.53Xinhuanwell that implies that only half the file executed
16:30.59Xinhuanand there is a prev error
16:31.18Xinhuanfunction Omen:ShowConfig()
16:31.23Xinhuanis defined at the end of the file
16:31.25Fisker-i was crashed :(
16:31.26Xinhuanlast function in fact
16:31.45Xinhuanso if it doesn't exist, it means the whole file didn't execute at main chunk
16:31.58vhaarrXinhuan: unless something magically nil'd the function
16:32.00Xinhuanand you must have a prior error to report ;p
16:32.30vhaarr~ugt
16:32.31purlmethinks ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
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16:33.12Xinhuani think something did
16:33.19Xinhuansince your other error is the same thing
16:33.28XinhuanOmen.Options is defined in the later half of the file
16:33.37vhaarrXinhuan: no, wait
16:33.39vhaarrhere it is
16:33.56vhaarrXinhuan: it's because I don't have Ace3-SharedMediaWidgets or whatever it's called
16:34.02Xinhuanthe errors you have are just cascaded from a previous error
16:34.06vhaarryes from that
16:34.26Xinhuansvn://svn.wowace.com/wow/ace-gui-3-0-shared-media-widgets/mainline/trunk/AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets
16:34.27vhaarrOmen.lua:1983: attempt to index global 'AceGUIWidgetLSMlists' (a nil value)
16:34.36Xinhuanget it ;p
16:34.38vhaarrye I know, I just deleted it because I thought no addons I had used it
16:34.46vhaarrbut seems omen does then :
16:34.47vhaarrp
16:35.04nevcairielsupport for that should be optional :p
16:35.37Xinhuani'll accept a patch nevcairiel ;p
16:36.16Xinhuanbut really, my goal was to satisfy a wide audience
16:36.32hasteseems you missed a part of it
16:36.42Xinhuanyeah you can't get it all
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16:51.12Fisker-haste
16:51.14Fisker-my mortal enemy
16:52.08thulwhy do we dislike haste?
16:53.17ausmarahttp://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3421/thearcanatorka5.jpg
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16:55.54thuli have never tried to play mage..
16:57.26Fisker-useless for paladins thul :(
17:00.28Megalonand dk's
17:00.30Megalonand warriors
17:00.36Megalonand ferals
17:00.52Megalonbut nevertheless, blizzard puts in everywhere ;c
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17:04.23quiescenso.O
17:04.24thulpretty much 2h DKs too
17:04.27MighytHazn00b lua question: I have a variable with a string value myThing="HSK", and want to refer to a table with the same name as that value print(HSK.display) - how do I do that?
17:09.57jnwhitehMighytHaz: use print(getglobal(myThing).display)
17:10.11jnwhitehgetglobal takes a string and returns the corresponding named global variable
17:11.01hastewhy getglobal() over _G[]?
17:12.15Industrialeh, hunters like haste
17:12.17IndustrialI guess
17:12.17Industrial:p
17:12.20MighytHazThanks!
17:13.55Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1462 RecipeDB/ARL-Blacksmith.lua: Fix #341
17:15.08Fisker-noone should like haste
17:15.13Industrialwhy
17:15.13Repo10hidelooted: 03Pneumatus * r6 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Add a koKR locale file
17:15.19hastebut I'm made of win and diamonts!
17:15.25Industrialhaha
17:15.29Industrialpwned Fisker-
17:15.30nevcairielI like haste, because he doesnt like Fisker-
17:15.43Brunerswho does?:P
17:15.43Industrialanyway, why Fisker- ? more white damage = more win?
17:15.44Fisker-diamonts?
17:16.00Fisker-oh and haste likes me nevcairiel
17:16.11nevcairielno-one likes you
17:16.25hasteFisker-: typo, t is next to d!
17:17.03Repo10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1150 GridFrame.lua:
17:17.03Fisker-nahuh
17:17.06RepoTicket 74 - Only update indicators with the status assigned on status gained/lost.  Based loosely on warbaby's patch.
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17:18.02Fisker-Kel'Thuzad is like bigger than Naxxramas
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17:24.27Brunersusing baby spice on thuz is not good
17:31.28Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1463 / (4 files in 2 directories):
17:31.31RepoAllow you to position where you want the spell info tooltip or turn it off even.
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17:39.31Fisker-WHY ARE PRIESTS INVALID TARGETS WHEN CASTING MIND CONTROL
17:39.33Fisker-FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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17:41.34pentium166.
17:42.09Fisker-.
17:43.51Bruners._.
17:44.00pentium166^.^
17:44.13Fisker-O_o
17:44.19AckisWorkhttp://paste.wowace.com/245/ <-- I can get rid of all the setpoints by different anchors correct?
17:48.50steevso i got Ironman last night, and armory is showing me as getting it today!?
17:48.58steevis armory times/dates in UTC?
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17:58.51NeoTronman. no deaths... Sapphiron. Hunter pulls aggro, multiple times, on the pull. Cleave kills one
17:58.59NeoTronof course from there on the raid was a marvel of fail
18:00.20sacarascWoo!
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18:00.44sacarascHunter gets a /gkick?
18:00.56NeoTronactually likely yes. trial that doesn't impress
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18:16.32haste*puts on songs about my cats*
18:18.14Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1464 / (4 files in 2 directories):
18:18.17RepoAdd some code in allowing the main tooltip to be repositioned.
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18:24.16zoktaranyone know if u can get skinner to load all windows, before ininital window is presented, annyoing to see the trasition from orignal to skinned on each new window per sesion that u open.
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18:29.54CrazyBennyzoktar: there is option to set skinning delay, set it to 0
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18:35.59zoktarfound it, thnx.
18:38.17NeoTronbrilliant - http://robit.info/sws/sws-thaddius-1233727394/spell_13159.html#auras
18:39.38Pneumatusgkick Balinos tbh
18:39.45HirsuteIck
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18:40.21Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1465 ARLFrame.lua:
18:40.24RepoAllow the acquire tooltip to be hidden, if it's hidden the spell tooltip will take over.  It can also be positioned relative to the ARL frame or on the mouse cursor.  Fixes ticket #279 finally.
18:40.39NeoTronit's pretty hawt
18:41.03NeoTronout of all fights to do forget AotP on...
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18:41.22Pneumatushe probably did it so he wouldnt noob up the jump down to thadd
18:44.04PrimerI do summoning circle on thad
18:44.15Primerat the top before the jump
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18:44.29NeoTronsounds like a likely explanation
18:44.54Pneumatusi levitate and run off the edge :)
18:45.45Primernever had to use it
18:45.59pastamanceranyone able to test r1150 of Grid right now for me?
18:46.01Primerbut it's comforting to know it's there
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18:47.18NeoTronI once failed like 3 times in one attempt
18:47.21NeoTronjust that one tim
18:47.34CrazyBennypastamancer: yea
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18:47.42NeoTronwhat I don't like is the fact that my ghoul doesn't follow so I have to do it with an unbuffed pet
18:47.57HirsuteSo, Kaelten: I've found a few tickets for the Curse Client that are definitely not problems with the client, but bugs an addon.  Do you want them reported to someone so they can be closed?
18:48.10Hirsute*bugs in an addon
18:48.20AckisWorkHirsute: linky to me
18:48.47HjalteHirsute: I'd like to see them too
18:48.48HirsuteAckisWork: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/tickets/104-gatherer-error-2/
18:48.58Hirsutehttp://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/tickets/103-gatherer-error/
18:49.11Hirsutehttp://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/tickets/100-wow-addon-screw-up/
18:50.05HirsuteThose are the three I found, all problems with a buggy version of Gatherer that's been fixed now.
18:50.25AckisWorkk ty... I usually go through them every few days... well not for the client really
18:51.17HirsuteNo problems.  The first two were fairly obvious.  The third is the same error message, the user just didn't understand what the error was saying.  I figured I'd comment in the tickets, and see if someone wanted to close them out.
18:55.01pastamancerCrazyBenny: everything seem to be working ok?
18:57.03Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1466 ARLFrame.lua:
18:57.06RepoAdd some code in allowing the main tooltip to be repositioned.
18:57.09CrazyBennypastamancer: yeah, got full raid and dont see any problems nor errors
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18:57.17Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1467 ARLFrame.lua:
18:57.20RepoMake it so mini-map icons appear... just testing with dalaran right now to see what's going on. And if this shit will actually work.
18:57.41pastamancerCrazyBenny: ok, thanks... not sure why someone created a ticket saying that the aggro status stopped working for them
18:58.02Stanzillakisses AckisWork
18:58.13AckisWorkStanzilla: I hate you
18:58.19Stanzilla^^
18:58.19AckisWorkthis mini-map shit is gonna be so fucking hard
18:58.21AckisWorkhehe
18:58.26Xinhuanackis, can you not bloat arl ;p
18:58.30Xinhuanits already a big db
18:58.46AckisWorkXinhuan: I can add tooltips without adding extra db info I think
18:58.55CrazyBennypastamancer: well, I'm not using the aggro indicators myself, but rest is fine
18:58.56AckisWorks/tooltips/mini-map shit/
18:58.57Hirsutepastamancer: Does aggro status rely on the game's threat information?
18:59.01pastamancerwait, yeah... why is arl messing with the mini-map?
18:59.04pastamancerHirsute: yes
18:59.14HirsuteMaybe the user started playing on a private server
18:59.24AckisWork@ticket arl 336
18:59.26RepoAckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/336 - Map/Minimap Display. Reported by: ChaosInc. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 103 minutes ago. Component: Graphic Interface. Milestone: RC2. Status: Started. Priority: Medium. Assignee: Ackis. Votes: 0. Comments: 1
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18:59.49AckisWorkpastamancer, Xinhuan ^
19:00.05Xinhuanwell, its really just an addon to see what a person is missing
19:00.12Xinhuanadding map icons is a bit stretching it
19:00.15AckisWorkand to help find out where to get them
19:00.19sacarascWhy does ARL need a minimap button?
19:00.32AckisWorksacarasc: it's not a mini-map button
19:00.35pastamancerwait, so it'll tell you where the nearest trainer/vendor with that recipe is?
19:00.51Xinhuanhe's planning to addon "handynotes-like" icons on the map
19:01.01Xinhuanboth on map and minimap, for those trainers
19:01.10AckisWorkXinhuan: not for trainers fuck trainers
19:01.16AckisWorkjust for vendors
19:01.16pastamanceroverkill imo, just have it create a waypoint with tomtom
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19:01.22nevcairielAckisWork: you know, you don't have to do everything people request in tickets
19:01.33AckisWorknevcairiel: I decline stuff... not much though =/
19:01.33Hirsutenevcairiel: What?!  Really?
19:01.34Zyndromewell ... that was a short Immortal ... a DK used death grip on Maexxna ._.
19:02.24HirsuteDeath Grip seems like one of those abilities that is just fine, even kind of cool, in the hands of someone with a brain, but *total* fail in the hands of your average button-masher
19:02.56steevHirsute: thats... pretty much every ability in the game
19:03.00AckisWorkbasically the logic I was going to follow was to add vendors to the map once a scan was done if you have the option on... if you don't want the option, it'll do nothing like that
19:03.13Hirsutesteev: Nah, some are pretty benign no-matter who's using them.
19:03.18Pneumatuspastamancer: HP bars are playing weird on the latest Grid alpha
19:03.26steevtrue, kinda hard to fuck up "Find Minerals"
19:03.33pastamancerPneumatus: got anything more than "wierd" for me?
19:03.35Pneumatusthey have stopped updating
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19:03.41pastamancerah
19:03.43HirsuteHeroic strike, arcane shot, fireball...
19:03.46pastamancerhmm
19:05.12pastamancerPneumatus: is anything else working?
19:05.31Pneumatusno, it seems to freeze
19:05.36Pneumatuswith nothing updating, statuses etc
19:05.52pastamancerok
19:06.52pastamancerdo me a favor and turn on debugging for GridFrame
19:07.06pastamancerthen /run GridFrame:ListRegisteredFrames()
19:08.32Pneumatuslots of frames listed, having to downgrade to release though as im in the middle of a raid
19:08.38pastamancerah, ok
19:08.40Pneumatuswill try and reproduce later
19:08.49pastamancerlet me know when you can
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19:29.08CrazyBennypastamancer: the grid is buggy after all, didnt notice any people dieing
19:29.37pastamancerCrazyBenny: ok
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19:35.26Repo10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1151 GridFrame.lua: Duh.
19:36.11Pneumatusfigured it out? :P
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19:36.15pastamanceryeah
19:36.26Pneumatuswill update after this wing and check it out then :)
19:36.42pastamancernow I understand why python throws exceptions if a key isn't found in a dictionary
19:40.10nevcairielheh
19:46.21ckknightpastamancer: lol
19:46.55ckknightyea, I do prefer a KeyError exception over just returning nil
19:47.17pastamancerapparently statusmap[status] and statusmap[indicator][status] aren't the same :p
19:47.36pastamancerand only one of them is the value I wanted
19:50.02Endwell, and if you want None, you get use .get()
19:50.14Endand even provide your own default if there's no such key
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19:57.09ckknightor you can use a defaultdict
19:57.11ckknightor whatever it's called
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20:05.51ckknightI hate RoM
20:06.12ckknightbtw
20:06.45sztanpetwhy
20:06.53ckknightits lua environment is horribly shitty
20:07.11sztanpetwhy are you developing for it
20:07.39ckknightCurse wants me to make tutorials and stuff
20:08.12sztanpetah
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20:11.05pastamancerRoM?
20:12.46ckknightrunes of magic
20:13.01ckknightit's a free-to-play MMORPG similar to WoW
20:13.05ckknightpretty polished all-in-all
20:13.14ckknightbut their lua environment has issues
20:16.20Hjalteckknight: Sigh, one of those silly "buy ingame items for real money" games.
20:16.33ckknightyea, though the items you buy aren't necessary
20:16.44ckknighta faster mount, decorations for your house
20:16.47ckknightso it's not horrible
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20:17.39KaeltenHjalte: hey
20:17.53Kaeltenthe stuck on building addon list, is that still happening witht the latest beta?
20:18.25HjalteKaelten: I haven't seen it lately, but it only happens rarely. I saw it a few builds back I am sure.
20:19.04HjalteKaelten: Last time was, I believe, the build before RC1 when I was running an ad-aware scan in the background. I don't know if that had anything to do with it.
20:19.20KaeltenI couldn't beg you to reproduce it could i?
20:19.25Kaeltenor try to at least
20:19.27HjalteSure, I could try.
20:20.11Kaeltenwhen you had it happen, how long did you elt it sit there?
20:20.39HjalteKaelten: Last time it happened, I closed the client down after maybe 30 seconds
20:20.45Kaeltenother times?
20:20.52HjalteI have had it sit for minutes though, when it happened earlier.
20:20.56Greltokpastamancer: Sent you an IRC pm.
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20:24.48HjalteKaelten: I've had it refresh the addons list quite a few times the last couple of minutes. It doesn't seem to get stuck on me anymore.
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20:25.13Kaeltenanadale commented on it like 9 hours ago :s
20:26.06HjalteI've never really been able to force it to happen, but I've refreshed a lot now, and I certainly am not using less addons.
20:26.16Kaeltenhehe
20:28.09Fisker-can  you config recount to only keep the latest combat?
20:31.15AckisWorknevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libbabble-class-3-0/tickets/4-plural-forms-of-class-names/
20:31.38Fisker-why so Ackis
20:32.06AckisWorkhey ckknight did you fix the localizer bug where L["Foo"] == L["FOO"] ?
20:32.12ckknightyes
20:32.35ZhinjioYou did?
20:32.45ckknightyes
20:32.57ckknightwith the switch to postgres, it was possible
20:33.44Zhinjioyeah, I know.
20:33.56Zhinjioyou mentioned that at the same time you were telling me you didn't consider it a problem.
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20:34.18Zhinjioand not to file a ticket
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20:35.27ckknightoh
20:35.29ckknightum
20:35.34ckknightwell, it's fixed
20:35.35ckknight;-)
20:35.40Zhinjiothank you.
20:35.43AckisWorkI think I filed a ticket :P
20:36.08Zhinjiowell, at least I'm getting the message consistently
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20:36.24SunTsuZhinjio: You just learned a valuable lesson: Don't listen to ckknight *ducks and runs away*
20:42.07ckknightI hate RoM
20:42.29Endyou said that already
20:42.48AckisWorks/hate/love/ ?
20:43.49ckknightEnd, but I keep finding more issues.
20:44.20nevcairielWhy do you support it anyway, let them clean up their addon mess first, then write tutorials <-<
20:44.29Endso...you hate it more now?
20:44.35ckknightyes.
20:44.38Endgotcha
20:44.44ckknightnevcairiel, because my boss tells me to
20:44.53ckknightnevcairiel, and I'll probably be speaking with their devs soon
20:45.10HirsuteWhat's RoM?
20:45.14nevcairieltell them to steal from WoW, everyone else seems to do that
20:45.55ckknightthey tried, but they stole only parts from WoW, and didn't learn from any mistakes
20:46.04ckknightHirsute, Runes of Magic, it's a free-to-play game with a lua environment
20:46.08Zhinjioshould I renew gamepants.org before it lapses?
20:46.10ckknightpretty polished, all-in-all
20:46.11Zhinjioponders.
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20:46.21durcynZhinjio: if you don't someone here certainly will
20:46.31ZhinjioI love that name./
20:46.37ZhinjioI've had it for a long time.
20:46.41Hirsuteckknight: Ah, I see.
20:50.45Zhinjiothere. \
20:50.49Zhinjiorenewed
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20:53.46Zhinjionice
20:53.54ckknight?
20:54.01Zhinjiomy easynews gig budget is maxed out
20:57.56Repo10coconuts: 03LordFarlander 042.6.159-beta * r159 : Tagging as 2.6.159-beta
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21:01.35Repo10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r160 Coconuts.lua: Coconuts:
21:01.39Repo- Fix for ticket 25
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21:09.32Gnarfoz~seen lordfarlander
21:09.35purllordfarlander <n=chatzill@ns2.pyramidpeak.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 127d 2h 39m 45s ago, saying: 'falconindy: Coconuts works great on the PTR/WotLK.   Updated it a long time ago.'.
21:13.34genetik-when did they change it so you can't move players in a raid between groups while in combat?
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21:16.27ulicSometime in 3.0 iirc.
21:17.23genetik-hmm
21:23.45Repo10magicrunes: 03dhedbor * r39 MagicRunes.lua:
21:23.48RepoFixed issue that broke rune bar coloring when using a localized version of Magic Runes.
21:34.29NivFreakgenetik-: at 3.0
21:40.24Brunersmy guess is that some secure functions made them do that change
21:40.52Brunersand instead of fixing it they just disabled it
21:41.02genetik-minor annoyance
21:41.26genetik-since there's still some group-specific auras
21:41.49genetik-and heals
21:42.39NivFreaktotems
21:42.40NivFreakyea
21:43.26genetik-heh.. we still don't have a shaman in our raids
21:45.13genetik-all of our tbc shaman either quit the game or went casual after wrath
21:45.54Greltokpastamancer: ping
21:46.03JaxonBloodlust as soon as possible or at 35%, assuming the boss doesn't die while bloodlust is still active.
21:46.06JaxonDiscuss.
21:46.32nevcairiel35 to use the execute-style abilities
21:46.33TradeMarkJaxon: always
21:46.43JaxonHow so.
21:47.02genetik-depends on the encounter
21:47.56TradeMarkthe only exception would be if people fail at the encounter and die early, or if it was like maly where you don't actually fight the boss sub-35%, or 3 drakes where you want to burn mobs asap
21:48.22TradeMarkor of course if you can have one at the start, and exhaustion wears off before the boss reaches 35%
21:48.35TradeMark(which rarely happens in any current LK encounter)
21:48.55JaxonWe've got a three page thread on my guild forums discussing this and we figured for a 3 minute fight, the difference between bloodlust at 100% and 35% was about..one second of damage, assuming everone gts the same boost from bloodlust, which doesn't happen at all.
21:49.57NivFreakit doesn't matter much at all on a 3 min fight :)_
21:50.05JaxonNo, but that is the model we are goign with.
21:50.13Repo10goldenticket: 03dhedbor * r7 GoldenTicket.lua: - Don't always overwrite the settings on startup.
21:50.18NivFreakwith a 5 minute fight it matters more of cours
21:50.37JaxonNivFreak: actually, the model we used was a raid with 5000 DPS and a boss with 1 million hitpoints to make things similar.
21:51.01JaxonErr, not similar.
21:51.03JaxonEasier.
21:51.16NeoTronhmm. Isn't saved variables loaded later in the addon initialization process?
21:51.48NeoTronshouldn't it be safe to do this: SomeSavedVar = { .. defaults ..}   in an addon's outer scope?
21:51.54TradeMarkhere's a question for you though: when you consider that stacking heroism sub-35% when certain classes get damage bonuses below that point, is there any reason to NOT use it sub-35%? ESPECIALLY on a 3 minute fight where you only get to use it once
21:52.20JaxonTradeMark: because the earlier you rush through from 35% to 0% you are not getting the most out of those damage abilities.
21:52.25TradeMarkand I put it to you that in a proper min/max environment you'd be retarded to use it at the sart of the fight
21:52.32NivFreakTradeMark: the main factor to weigh against, is the risk of having dead dpsers at < 35%
21:52.33JaxonTradeMark: and the earlier you get to 35% the better.
21:52.42JaxonNivFreak: assume no one dies.
21:52.48TradeMarkyou're wrong Jaxon
21:53.06JaxonTradeMark: you haven't said anything to support that.
21:53.08NivFreakassuming no one dies, you may wish to use it earlier to shorten a phase in which adds spawns
21:53.13genetik-Jaxon: are we talking a strictly tank and spank fight like patchwerk?
21:53.30Jaxongenetik-: yes, I know certain fights would make it easier to justify bloodlust earlier.
21:53.31EndThe biggest justification I've heard for using bloodlust early, besides long fights, is to stack cooldowns with different cooldown durations
21:54.11EndI have no cooldowns with durations worth noting, and all my bonuses are 35% and below, so I argue for a later bloodlust :P
21:55.46TradeMarksearches for the EJ post he saw not long ago which summarised his thoughts well
21:56.56ckknighthey all, we can now rename project slugs without consequence.
21:57.33Endcool
21:57.57ckknightthey finally redirect properly on curse.com
21:59.26Pneumatusgood stuff
22:00.45JaxonTradeMark: the idea is to maximize raid DPS and not individual DPS.  Sure, a mage might like it a lot more at sub 35% for some higher numbers (I think deep fire gets bonuses based on health) but compare that to a rogue that doesn't get nearly the effect of the increased haste.
22:01.23TradeMarkyes - and if 5 people in the raid get increased damage ONLY at sub-35% then obviously using heroism sub-35 is going to increase the raid's dPS
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22:01.37TradeMarkover using it at another time
22:02.10TradeMarkthe only situation where that isn't the case is if people die early, which is probably an indicator that your raiders are fail, and you should focus on fixing that problem rather than focusing on when to use heroism
22:03.09JaxonTradeMark: we've already gone over the fact that no one would be dying.
22:03.19TradeMarkI can't find this damn post xD
22:03.46TradeMarkbut it's basically a no-brainer... the optimal time to use it is the time when heroism just fades as the boss dies
22:03.54JaxonTradeMark: the idea is that bloodlusting past 35% doesn't net anymore DPS gain than using it before that.
22:03.57TradeMarkor at 35%, whichever is sooner
22:04.13TradeMarkof course it does xD
22:04.22TradeMarkheroism = faster cast time
22:04.28JaxonFor casters sure.
22:04.32TradeMarkwhich means more spells get the advantage of the effect of cooldowns
22:05.24TradeMarkso you agree that heroism sub-35 increases the DPS of certain classes (mages being the obvious example), but you insist that raid DPS isn't increased? I don't understand
22:05.53JaxonTradeMark: right out of the discussion we are having in guild http://paste.wowace.com/252/
22:06.47JaxonThe numbers obviously don't exist in any real raiding situtation but they reflect the point I am trying to make to you.
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22:07.21Fisker-hey ckknight
22:07.25Fisker-your mom redirects properly
22:07.29Fisker-highfives self
22:07.37EthanCentauraickknight: WTB two slug pellets plz :)
22:07.45Fisker-if i were a comedian i'd be george carlin
22:07.46Fisker-irl
22:07.58Stanzillaor not
22:08.05EthanCentauraiif you were a comedian you'd be so lame that time itself would break
22:08.12Fisker-nice
22:08.20ckknighthands EthanCentaurai a fragmentation grenade
22:08.58EthanCentauraipulls the pin and shoves it up Fisker-'s arse
22:09.25cncfanaticsoh dear, how do I get nrt to give me a box I can copypaste from ?
22:10.06Fisker-shits the frag grenade down EthanCentaurai's mouth
22:10.14Fisker-...while kissing him
22:10.25EthanCentaurai...the hell? O.o
22:10.40TradeMark"UNLESS somebody gets exponentially more damage with bloodlust and I believe that is the case here" bingo
22:10.46EthanCentauraiFisker- must be talking out of his arse :D
22:11.07Fisker-i were supposed to crit for 500k today
22:11.15Fisker-but for some reason it didn't register in the combat log
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22:11.17TradeMarkhaste buffs stack multiplicatively
22:11.25TradeMarkall cooldowns have a fixed duration
22:11.36Fisker-though the 170k damage return did
22:11.43NivFreakso we had a shaman chain lightning and take out all off razouviuos's adds after he died last week
22:11.49NivFreakI love it when that happens
22:12.24Fisker-Does dying to the adds count as a loss in regards to the immortal though?
22:12.57NivFreakyou die to yourself
22:12.58NivFreakhehe
22:13.18Fisker-but does that count if the boss is down?
22:13.26NivFreakI would suspect so
22:13.26Fisker-but we're still engaged with the adds
22:13.31Fisker-same
22:13.34NivFreakI'd imagine it's until you drop combat
22:13.45NivFreakso just SoComm after he dies ;)
22:13.46Fisker-i'd probably get kicked if i do it again just to test it though
22:15.16Fisker-i require sleep
22:15.17Fisker-bai
22:15.36Industrialadministers so-srs sleep to Fisker-
22:15.44durcynNeoTron: your golden ticket data feed is also missing a type attribute, should probably be "data source"
22:17.31EthanCentauraickknight: can you remove the "prat_" part from the slugs for http://www.wowace.com/projects/prat_signon/ and http://www.wowace.com/projects/prat_bottlecap/ (or change them to "sign-on" and "bottle-cap") please? or tell me how to do it? :)
22:17.42AckisWorkEthanCentaurai: re: your report... how do you know it's for private servers?
22:17.49ckknightEthanCentaurai, signon or sign-on?
22:18.05ShefkiAckis!
22:18.06AckisWorkEthanCentaurai: http://www.wowace.com/projects/prat_signon/edit-slug/ works?
22:18.21ckknightAckisWork, for moderators.
22:18.27AckisWorkahh ok
22:18.34ShefkiAckisWork: I found some bugs in ARL.
22:18.38ckknightEthanCentaurai, make a decision
22:18.41AckisWorkShefki: tickets pls?
22:18.55EthanCentauraickknight: sign-on plz
22:19.29EthanCentauraiAckisWork: I don't see the point of it otherwise... I've heard bad things
22:19.29ckknight@project sign-on
22:19.31Repockknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/sign-on/. Sign On. Game: WoW. ethancentaurai (Manager/Author), ChiperSoft (Author). Updated: 16 days ago. Tickets: 2/8
22:19.32ckknight@project bottle-cap
22:19.33Repockknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bottle-cap/. BottleCap: an AntiCAPS addon. Game: WoW. ethancentaurai (Manager/Author). Updated: 38 days ago
22:19.41EthanCentauraiw00t
22:19.47EthanCentauraihugs ckknight
22:20.01EthanCentauraithanks :D
22:20.04ckknightnp
22:20.12ckknightno I see how long for the change to show up on curse
22:20.26EthanCentauraigoes to make some popcorn
22:20.33ckknightand it's up
22:20.38ckknightso like, less than a minute
22:20.41ckknightthat's pretty good
22:20.49EthanCentauraidecides to not make popcorn after all
22:21.09ckknightwhy do you call wowace AceForge?
22:21.31EthanCentauraibecause, imo, wowace is CurseForge with different clothes on
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22:22.22ckknightdifferent templates, settings, moderators, and culture
22:22.27ckknightoutside of that, yes, they're the same.
22:24.48Pneumatusi just topped mana gained on sarth+3 :)
22:24.48Pneumatusclearly the best recount graph to top
22:24.49Repo10dailies-quest-tracker: 03StingerSoft * r54 Locales/ruRU.lua: DailiesQuestTracker:
22:24.49ShefkiAckisWork: Done.
22:24.49Repo- ruRU fix/update
22:24.49Industrialbe on the bottom of damage taken :p
22:25.03Pneumatus95k mana gained, of which 59k was from rapture
22:26.37ArrowmasterAckisWork: yeah that addon does SendChatMessage(".save", "GUILD"); its private server crap
22:26.44NivFreakso they nerfed survival eh
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22:28.52NeoTronheh http://www.bugmenot.com/view/wowace.com
22:29.12NeoTronckknight: I seem to recall a link to a page where you could request login change on wowace... am I correct?
22:29.34ckknightNeoTron, it's in the #wowace topic
22:30.31AckisWorkwowace.com/request-name-change/
22:30.42NeoTronckknight: imagine that. mayb ethat's where I saw it :P
22:30.50NeoTronoh and wtf: "This is the right solution. However, as I said the last time this question was asked, our priority right now is making sure more DKs spec Frost or Blood, not how to reward groups that bring multiple Unholy DKs. We do recognize it is annoying though and we'll get it fixed."
22:31.07NeoTronI mean, heavy unholy hasn't been the range since early retail afaik... frost on the other hand
22:31.09AckisWorkEthanCentaurai: TY for the report
22:31.16AckisWorkArrowmaster: thanks, nuked it :D lol
22:31.35AckisWorkShefki: I disagree :P there's a lot of recipes that are 1 faction only, which is why we have the faction flag to filter then out
22:31.36AnaralAckisWork: I've been getting the following two bugs all day. I'm using alpha version, downloaded with CC latest beta. http://www.pastey.net/107694 and http://www.pastey.net/107695
22:31.48AckisWorkAnaral: even I don't use my own alphas
22:31.49Arrowmasteralso the fact that he uploaded versions of the addon for wow 1.0 last month gave it away
22:32.23AckisWorkAnaral: are you using svn or the client?
22:32.38AnaralAckisWork: The client
22:33.15ShefkiAckisWork: The only reason there are two different recipes is the silly mount system.  And I wouldn't be suprised if the Engineering mounts that are missing aren't missing becuase of a alliance/horde difference.
22:33.56AckisWorkArrowmaster: with embeding Libs/Astrolabe: http://svn.esamynn.org/astrolabe/trunk in .pkgmeta, why didn't you also embed dongle?
22:34.22AckisWorkShefki: uniqueness between the faction... the actual mounts are different I thought? we're talking about the bikes right?
22:34.23Arrowmasteri thought dongle was embedded on the astrolabe svn
22:34.30AckisWorkAnaral: looking into it
22:34.38AnaralAckisWork: Thank ye.
22:35.10AckisWorkArrowmaster: it might be, but look at http://www.pastey.net/107694 <-- just has astrolabe embedded easy way to check however
22:35.20ShefkiAckisWork: There's no real difference between the bikes except one has an alliance logo and one has a horde logo.
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22:35.36ShefkiAckisWork: The primary reason there's two is the vehicle/mount system required it.
22:35.43Arrowmasterno clue
22:36.45AckisWorkArrowmaster: Looking at speedfu, donglestub isn't included
22:37.20Arrowmasterckknight: use http://www.bugmenot.com/report.php and block wowace.com
22:37.24Shefkiwhat is clicking on the gear icon in the top left corner of ARL supposed to do?
22:37.37AckisWorkShefki: it switched between the professions you have
22:37.58ShefkiClicking it freezes wow for me.
22:38.08NivFreakblizzard: Replenishment, like tanks are required
22:38.14NivFreaksolutoion: give tanks replenishment imo!
22:38.38AckisWorkShefki: hmm never run into that before
22:38.51NivFreaksolution*
22:40.24ShefkiAckisWork: Why not by default have certain Horde or Alliance factions unchecked by default?
22:40.55ShefkiAckisWork: AllianceVanguard for Horde and Horde Expedition for Alliance.
22:42.15AckisWorkbecause when it was written I didn't know about the factions and I need to combine those two like I do for the nagrand / hellfire ones
22:42.15Repo10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1152 GridFrame.lua: Cleanup.
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22:42.58ShefkiAckisWork: Ahh ok.
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22:43.24AckisWorkShefki: ticket that, and the other issue about it locking up please
22:43.35AckisWork(can't work on them now and i'll forget)
22:44.22ZhinjioAckisWork: I love that video you posted.
22:44.24Zhinjiothats awesome.
22:44.28AckisWorkZhinjio: hehe it's wicked
22:44.37AckisWorkdude I have like 500 friends because of fucking facebook games O_o
22:44.51Zhinjioyeah, I keep that pretty limited.
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22:58.33winkillerhas zero facebook friends
23:03.17NeoTrondoesn't have a facebook account.
23:03.25CrazyBennyhmm, I wonder if the wowerror I'm getting lately "The instruction at "0x6F50AD03" referenced memory at "0x00000008". The memory could not be "read"." could be connected to my hardware :S
23:03.56NeoTronCrazyBenny: broken memory could surely cause it tro try to read the wrong address
23:04.08CrazyBennyyea, was thinking of it
23:04.29CrazyBennyanother reason to bug boss for new laptops!
23:04.44NeoTronbecause being able to play wow on your work laptop is a requirement? :P
23:05.04CrazyBennyofcourse, I'm student..cant buy another computer :P
23:05.16EvilJohnNeoTron: It is if you travel.
23:05.21HjalteCrazyBenny: I've had that error with two different computers now.
23:06.17CrazyBennyHjalte: hmm, might be the game then
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23:11.46ZhinjioKaelten: ping
23:12.07Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1468 / (4 files in 2 directories): Fix dongle issue and localize the library error messages.
23:13.03Zhinjiohas anyone used the "Clean Saved Variables" tool in CC yet?
23:13.11Brunersi have
23:13.16HjalteZhinjio: I used it today
23:13.53Zhinjiohow does it work? The ones I see listed there have nothing at all to do with the addon I had selected
23:14.11Brunersit removes old vars that you no longer need
23:14.26Zhinjiooh
23:14.28Brunersaddons you have deleted
23:14.35Zhinjioso you can't force clean an addon that is listed, for example
23:14.55Zhinjiohmm.
23:14.56Zhinjiook
23:15.17Brunersyou could by deleting it and then running the cleaner:P
23:15.18AckisWorkit's the same as the wau functionality
23:15.50BrunersZhinjio: but thats a good idea, write a ticket if its not already up
23:18.04PneumatusZhinjio: it removes SV for addons that arent present in your Addons folder
23:18.26Zhinjionods. I get it. I think I will file a ticket.
23:18.34NeoTronI wonder if WoW read olds sv's or only currently needed ones
23:18.38ZhinjioFOr example, the latest release of altoholic requires an SV wipe
23:18.43Zhinjioit would be useful for that kind of thing
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23:23.48Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1469 AckisRecipeList.lua: Initialize local before using it.
23:24.18Zhinjiowho was it that was complaining about Baggins not closing the bank when you close the window yesterday?
23:24.28ZhinjioNeoTron: was it you?
23:24.30Zhinjiono
23:28.45cncfanaticswas me prolly
23:29.50NeoTronZhinjio: I said it happened to me as well
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23:34.44drweird< Hirsute> Is it just me, or does clicking Baggins bank window closed not actually close the bank?
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23:38.18NeoTronckknight: for the localization app it'd be useful to at least have an option to order by translation state (i.e untranslated, unverified, translated)
23:38.29ckknighthmm
23:38.32ckknightyou can filter by it
23:38.32NeoTronto make it easier for translators to find untranslated phrases
23:38.38ckknight...
23:38.41ckknightuse the filter
23:38.43NeoTronhow?
23:38.50ckknightwhat's the project?
23:39.00NeoTronall I see is "search"
23:39.04ckknightanswer me.
23:39.05NeoTronhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/magicrunes/localization/frFR/'
23:39.17ckknightsee http://www.wowace.com/projects/magicrunes/localization/
23:39.24ckknightthe untranslated column
23:39.27ckknightthose are links
23:39.43NeoTronah
23:39.45NeoTronright
23:39.56NeoTronwould be useful if you could do this from the page above
23:40.36NeoTronalso btw theer's no way to return to the "/localization/" page once you've clicked on a sub page without going via "Back to project" first
23:41.25PneumatusNeoTron: click on "Localization" above "Back to project"
23:42.13NeoTronguess I fail at clicking :P
23:47.57Repo10volumizer: 03Torhal * r3 / (4 files in 1 directory): Minor cleanup. Removed AceAddon usage.
23:49.07Repo10volumizer: 03Torhal 043.0.8-1.0.0 * r4 : Tagging as 3.0.8-1.0.0
23:49.38spode@project volumizer
23:49.39Repospode: http://www.wowace.com/projects/volumizer/. Volumizer. Game: WoW. Torhal (Manager/Author). Updated: 15 seconds ago
23:59.24vhaarrNivFreak: got a working thaddius now, committing in a sec
23:59.28TorhalZhinjio: ping
23:59.40vhaarrNivFreak: tested in 25 and 10man now
23:59.56NivFreakgreat

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