IRC log for #wowace on 20090131

00:00.12sb|workuhm btw... why do you want to spec disc?
00:00.57cncfanaticsbecause I can
00:01.03sb|workokay :p
00:01.28cncfanaticsdoes that satisfy you ? :p
00:02.14sb|workno, but i'm tired.. ;)
00:03.18sb|workand 3darmory doesnt work for my server :/
00:06.17Repo10repairbroker: 03Sayclub * r12 / (2 files in 2 directories): add koKR
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00:16.06Repo10broker-currency: 03Azethoth * r46 core.lua:
00:16.09Repo-- Fix silver & copper not staying in their columns sometimes.
00:16.12Repo-- Fix gold, silver and copper values decoupled from their negative sign
00:18.33Repo10broker-currency: 03Azethoth 04v46 beta * r47 : Tagging as v46 beta
00:22.45Arrowmasterhad to go pickup dinner and realized i really need new tires, dont have much tread left on them but in the snow they slip around so much right now
00:22.55thuli wander what single player FPS-games are good for macs.
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00:24.09Hirsutehah!
00:24.22HirsuteThat makes me larf
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00:24.39Arrowmasteri need to find some good new tires for my car now, the last ones i got didnt like the rain too well, but that was my previous car
00:24.57Repo10all-played-laotseu: 03LaoTseu * r155 AllPlayed.lua: AllPlayed:
00:25.00Repo- Trying to get the script to generate a proper ZIP file
00:26.37Brunersany recommendations on a sleek buttonfacade skin ?
00:26.58TradeMarknub question: how would I send a message to a chat frame for the user to see? (without "saying" it in a channel)
00:27.15HirsuteTradeMark: ChatFrame:AddMessage()
00:27.20ArrowmasterChatFrame1:AddMessage()
00:27.23TradeMarkta
00:27.25Hirsute~API AddMessage()
00:27.26purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_AddMessage()
00:27.27Arrowmasteror DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage()
00:27.45HirsuteI'd go with DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage()
00:27.54Arrowmaster~api is perty useless, use !api
00:27.55purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_is perty useless, use !api
00:27.59Arrowmastersee
00:28.09Arrowmaster!api addmessage
00:28.10lua_botDocumentation for 'ConsoleAddMessage' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/ConsoleAddMessage
00:28.30Arrowmasterthats not as helpful either though
00:29.14TradeMark:P
00:29.56PrimerDoes anyone have any suggestions as to how I could detect the headless horseman's mount? I've tried: if (UnitBuff ("player", GetSpellInfo (27152))) then in a UNIT_AURA handler, but this didn't work
00:30.07Primerthat is supposedly the aura for the flying version
00:30.27Primerand 27153 is the ground one, which I've added code to detect as well
00:31.06Arrowmasterdont they have the same name?
00:31.50Primerno
00:31.55Primerthere's 4 different names
00:32.06Arrowmasterreally?
00:32.08Primeryes
00:32.41Primerthere's 60% and 100% ground, and 60% and 280% flying
00:33.35Arrowmasterso theres 2 flying versions
00:33.43Brunersalso the turtle mount
00:33.46Arrowmasterand thats not what its getting caught on?
00:34.11Arrowmasterumm 27152 is not the correct spellid
00:34.18Primerthat's the aura
00:34.32Primeranyhow, I thought it'd get caught by the companion code
00:34.35Primerbut it doesn't
00:34.45Arrowmasterno its not
00:34.51Primer<PROTECTED>
00:34.51Primer<PROTECTED>
00:34.52Arrowmasterhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=27152
00:35.33Primersec
00:35.40Primerfinding it
00:35.45Arrowmasterhttp://www.wowhead.com/?search=headless+horseman%27s#uncategorized-spells
00:36.04Primerhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=51617
00:36.11PrimerEffect #1Apply Aura: Mounted (27152)
00:36.23Arrowmasterthats not an aura
00:36.38Arrowmasteror atleast not a spellid
00:36.49Arrowmasterthats an internal number you cant do anything with
00:36.56Primerso  if (UnitBuff ("player", GetSpellInfo (51617)))   ?
00:37.01Primerand the other 3?
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00:37.14Arrowmasteryeah, although you shouldnt call GetSpellInfo more than once
00:37.21Arrowmasterfor each
00:37.28Primerwhy not?
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00:37.38Arrowmasterbecause its excessive
00:37.43Primerthen what should I do?
00:37.57Arrowmasterthe spell name isnt going to change between init and when you use it
00:37.58TorhalPrimer: local id = GetSpellInfo(number)
00:38.28Primeroh, yeah, duh
00:38.33TorhalThat'll just grab the first return value, which is the name
00:39.16Arrowmasteryeah not sure but putting it directly into UnitBuff() would pass all returns which could cause unintended side effects
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00:46.45Primerso: local DruidSwitftFlightFormSpellID = GetSpellInfo (40120) ... if (UnitBuff ("player", DruidSwitftFlightFormSpellID)) then ... ?
00:46.49Primeris that what you meant?
00:47.12Primererr, yeah, I have druid detection too
00:47.16Primerthat works though :)
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00:57.54Primercrickets...
00:58.15Brunerssweet got the design for soverign twilight opal for 500g
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01:01.32Primernice
01:01.37Primeryou should make good profit
01:01.52Primerat one point only 1 dude on my realm had purified twilight opal
01:01.59Primerand he refused to cut it for people
01:02.07Primerall he did was prospect, cut, and AH
01:02.12PrimerI'm sure he made a killing
01:02.47Primereven now only about 4 people have it
01:04.35Brunersi put up 5 for 160g each, two of them sold already
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01:16.59ToadkillerSo what is the cool tip mod of the moment?  been using cowtip but as of today its config is broken and its annoyingly popping up everything right at cursor.  I need something I can control!
01:17.41Brunersi use tinytip
01:19.59Primersame
01:20.02onaforeignshorecowtip alpha works for me
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01:25.25NickenyfikenI like TipTop
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01:28.13kenlyricunknown tag hasthreat
01:28.31kenlyricmy fav
01:40.13Nickenyfikenhehe looks like that Runes of Magic game has all of the most popular addons already built in.
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01:49.44RaydenUniso now that kitty swipe has been out a few days
01:49.46RaydenUniis anyone using it?
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02:14.59SunTsuRaydenUni: Of Course
02:15.00Repo10engulf: 03durcyn 07master * 1.0.1-release-2-g5b3b98b Engulf.lua: [+2 commits]
02:15.02Repo5b3b98b: typos can blow me
02:15.05Repo8525247: let's not compare varargs to nil, please.
02:16.03RaydenUnihow many mobs do you need before it's useful
02:16.09RaydenUniaround 3 or 4 i can't say it's better than shreding
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02:22.05SunTsuRaydenUni: I normally use it 3+. mostly because I really like AoE damage ;)
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02:22.57RaydenUnii do too
02:23.02RaydenUnibut my dps is very low on those fights
02:23.05RaydenUniso just wondering
02:23.55SunTsuRaydenUni: Yeah, I think it's useful on 4 and up
02:24.29SunTsuUnder that it's merely fun ;)
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02:37.49RaydenUniwhen is wow going to hook into IRC so i can be summoned for raids when i'm not playing
02:39.06Nickenyfikenhehe
02:39.31Zyndromeyou can hook your headphones into your soundboard, so you can be told on vent/TS instead :D
02:39.56RaydenUniyeah but that doesn't help with pugs
02:40.02RaydenUnialso my guild doesn't use vent except for scheduled stuff
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02:58.37ToadkillerWow TinyTip is full of fail.  TOPRIGHT, RIGHT and BOTTOMRIGHT = BOTTOMRIGHT
02:58.40Toadkillerwth
02:59.11ToadkillerMoving on to TipTop
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03:04.12Arrowmastertinytip works fine
03:04.29Arrowmasteralthough the config was broken last time i tried it
03:11.24Arrowmasteralthough now it seems i need to find a new tooltip mod or make my own, twobits took over tinytip
03:13.25waallenTipTac is pretty nice too
03:13.42Arrowmasterill make my own before using most that ive seen
03:14.15Dark_Elfuses all of the above
03:14.16ToadkillerTinyTip LOOKS good, but I need it to actuall ygo where I want.
03:14.18Arrowmastertinytip was perfect for me but like i said twobits has taken it over
03:15.06ToadkillerIs he as good as Lord Farlander?
03:15.26Arrowmasterits probably slightly better
03:15.39Dark_Elflmao
03:15.48Arrowmasterbut i have very little respect for people that do stupid shit like set svn:executable on lua files
03:16.01Toadkillerhuh what?
03:16.18Arrowmasterlook at the diff for tinytip r255
03:17.52ArrowmasterToadkiller: take TinyTipPositioning out of TinyTip and move it to the addons dir as a seperate addon, then go into it and edit StandAloneConfig.lua
03:18.11Toadkilleromg.  tx though I think
03:18.48Toadkilleris the "standalone config" obsolete?
03:19.12ArrowmasterThrae made it so you could use the modules alone without the TinyTip core
03:19.24Repo10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r41 Glyphs/Glyphs.lua: bugfix for frame creation
03:19.27Arrowmasterwhen you use them alone it uses the StandAloneConfig.lua
03:19.52ToadkillerTinyTipOptions, is that obsolete?
03:19.59Arrowmasterits broken afaik
03:20.03Toadkillerk
03:20.24Arrowmasterwhich is why you couldnt change the settings and get it to work
03:20.47Arrowmasterjust use TinyTipBasic and TinyTipPositioning without anything else, not even TinyTip
03:24.33ToadkillerArrowmaster: Sweet.  Thats a lot better.
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03:38.20Dark_Elfruns 534 addons, including libraries, and only had 3 addons with errors today thats pretty darn good
03:39.00Dark_Elfmake that 4
03:39.45Dark_ElfFortress, Yata, Phatloot and Chatter
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03:59.26RaydenUnithere are no healers on at all
03:59.38RaydenUnialso what's with people requiring a shaman for AN?
04:00.02Arrowmasterbloodlust
04:00.10Arrowmasterhelps on the boss fights
04:00.11RaydenUniis the poison that bad?
04:00.30Arrowmasteroh yeah the poisons too, shaman would make that perty easy
04:01.12Repo10trade-filter: 03networkerror * r43 TradeFilter.lua: Modified pre-Filter
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04:11.49RaydenUnithere was a group with 4 guys
04:11.53RaydenUniall they wanted was a shaman
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04:36.53Dirtieis this the appropriate place to ask a question about pitbull?
04:38.23Repo10trade-filter: 03networkerror * r45 embeds.xml: remove embeds.xml for realsy
04:41.38ulicDirtie: yes, but depending who is or isn't paying attention you might not get an answer :)
04:41.56ulictry the forums if you don't get a response.
04:43.15Dirtieok, what i'm trying to do is write a conditional using dog tags depending if a raid pet is a vehicle or not
04:43.25Dirtie[HasVehicleUI(unit=Owner)] for exmaple
04:44.25Dirtieexcept Owner returns the name of the person controlling the vehicle, but its still the wrong type for the argument
04:44.44Dirtieso I'm guessing what I really need is the object rather than just the name
04:45.41DirtieI'm not exactly sure how to put that into the argument though
04:47.04ulicno idea :)  I'd suggest posting in the DogTag forum thread over the PitBull thread though.
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05:16.47Repo10postal: 03Xinhuan * r228 Localization.lua:
05:16.50RepoFix localization file returning prematurely which resulted in an English-only Postal.
05:19.46Repo10postal: 03Xinhuan * r229 Postal.toc: Update TOC.
05:20.27Repo10postal: 03Xinhuan 04v3.1beta2 * r230 : Tag v3.1beta2 for testing.
05:31.30Repo10trade-filter: 03networkerror 04v1.1.45 * r46 : Tagging as Release
05:34.37Dirtiei give up, there really does need to be a way to handle vehicles better
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05:58.10Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 058cde7 Modules/Aura/Options.lua: [+1 commit] Fix a bug that prevented Other Unfriendly Aura border colors from being
05:58.27Repo10fubar2broker: 03HunterZ * r76 FuBar2Broker.lua:
05:58.30Repo- Warn user and abort if a Broker plugin cannot be created, especially if it's due to one already existing with the desired name (seems to be happening a lot lately with addons that try to natively provide both FuBar and Broker plugins).
05:58.33Repo- Note that the reverse case may still occur, in which an addon creates a FuBar plugin first that gets handled by FuBar2Broker, *then* an attempt is made to create a native Broker plugin. In this case, LDB will allow the FuBar2Broker-provided plugin and block creation of the native one, which is bad but can't be addressed at the FuBar2Broker level.
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06:14.45ToadkillerTime for fubar to go or get with the program already
06:18.03kenlyrictime for ldb to get a decent display mod
06:18.26HunterZ0Time for authors to pick one or the other and let F2B or B2F do the rest
06:32.44ToadkillerI picked ldb
06:35.35theoddone33time for pancakes
06:35.51theoddone33eh I was a little late
06:43.11Toadkillerwaffles imo
06:45.45Zhinjioheya Toadkiller
06:46.09Zhinjiodo you want me to submit a ticket on the Currency sorting idea, or were you hip enough to just do that without additional motivation?
06:49.47Repo10libstatlogic-1-1: 037destiny * r29 LibStatLogic-1.1/LibStatLogic-1.1.lua: - koKR Update(support FAP)
06:50.04Xinhuanfap!
06:52.58Toadkillersup zhin
06:53.24ToadkillerHey I was thinking about that.  money fu just always sorted on cash.  Would that be good enough?
06:57.13Zhinjioyup!
06:57.22Zhinjiothats what I was thinking actually
06:57.34Zhinjioits the most "dominant" column, from a width perspective, so it makes sense
06:58.48ToadkillerAlso most of the other things are bop so its the only thing u want to transfer anyway
06:59.40ToadkillerI also want to do a modifier-popup to just show all the current guys stuff like that guy suggested in forums
06:59.59ToadkillerWill the features never stop!
07:03.46Fisker-giev pets ;_;
07:03.53Fisker-or i'll kill Xinhuan
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07:09.07TorhalHunterZ0: You neglected to use the word "certain" before the word "authors". :D
07:10.21HunterZ0Torhal: well I think they'd know which ones I was referring to >.>
07:11.27HunterZ0for some reason I can't tag a release version for FuBar2Broker any more. I guess the must have changed the default permissions to not allow just anyone to do that even if it's an open project.
07:11.55HunterZ0hopefully andreasg is still around or something
07:12.14LukianHunterZ0, tag a beta?
07:12.51Xinhuanhe said he got permission denied ;p
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07:13.26HunterZ0used to be able to do either. didn't try beta, but i doubt the SVN server knows the difference when creating a directory.
07:18.03Repo10trade-filter: 03networkerror * r48 TradeFilter.lua: fix keyword substitutions
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07:27.14rapidgamedoes wow or ace or anything have a built in calculator function? even just like /script math("5*5")??
07:29.10HunterZ0use /print
07:29.13HunterZ0like /print 2*3
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07:38.10rapidgameoh, thanks Hunter - shame he's offline
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07:58.53Fisker-where's my money man?
08:01.42Fisker-beats up orionshock
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08:14.42IndustrialFisker-: here, have this metal pipe
08:16.04Fisker-Industrial my archlover
08:16.52IndustrialFisker-: my cuddly enemy
08:19.42Industrialrapidgame: or just /run print() but I guess /print foo just does /run print("foo")
08:19.50Industrialwith ace
08:20.12orionshockFisker-: your the one that owes me money
08:20.14orionshock:P
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08:27.54Toadkillerrapidgame: get WowLua and DevTools.  DevTools lets you /dump stuff and see tabels and their nested contents etc.
08:28.14rapidgameToadkiller: wow, sounds cool
08:28.30ToadkillerThey are on WoWInterface iirc
08:28.51ToadkillerWowLua lets you write lua and execute it
08:28.53rapidgamewot does WowLua do? Run wow lua code outside the client?
08:29.08rapidgamehmm, think i have that already - stashed away somewhere ;-)
08:29.31Toadkillerno its in game lua
08:29.31rapidgamestandalone, right?
08:29.41rapidgameoh, i must have something different
08:29.56ToadkillerYou are talking about a wow emulator
08:30.06Toadkillerthis is a lua emulator inside wow
08:30.13rapidgameyep - thanks, i'll check those out
08:30.16Toadkillerwell not much emulation actualy
08:31.42ToadkillerI suppose /run print(unpack(myTable)) would be the same, dump is nice and simple to type though
08:32.02Toadkillerand it has more logic for the nesting and circular pointers
08:32.41Repo10trade-filter: 03networkerror * r50 TradeFilter.lua: Fix PreFilter
08:57.05pompyis QDKP_v2 a good dkp mod?
08:57.23thulI like my iphone more as jailbroken
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08:58.45Fisker-no thul :(
08:58.48Fisker-say it ain't so
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09:05.06Repo10enhanced-trade-skill-ui: 03kunda * r2 / (6 files in 1 directory):
09:05.09RepoEnhancedTradeSkillUI: Shows more recipies in the profession window.
09:05.12Repoinitial commit
09:06.11thulFisker-: it is so :/
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09:06.18thuli can get all kinds of wonderfull stuff on it now :-P
09:06.32thulmms for instance
09:06.48Repo10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky * r28 / (2 files in 1 directory): added ability to delete entries
09:11.50Fisker-:E
09:11.53thulhttp://araxfoto.com/specials/tilt-shift-80/ <- i want that :/
09:11.54Fisker-I want the Xperia X1
09:11.56thulfist-hugs Fisker-
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09:15.19thulI have to awaken Fisker-s sexual predator sense: http://fc88.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/030/e/c/Meow_II_by_blackmage9.jpg
09:16.03Industrialthul: :o
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09:21.32thulIndustrial: what? :-(
09:22.02RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/seraphimraidtracker/. Seraphim Raid Tracker. Barret7sc (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
09:22.19Repo10enhanced-trade-skill-ui: 03kunda 04r2-release * r3 : Tagging as r2-release
09:22.24RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/visor2-gui/. Visor2 GUI. ethancentaurai (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
09:26.07Repo10vanas-ko-s: 03Vana * r343 modules/Importer.lua: VanasKoS: bugfix
09:26.32thulwhile we are on that topic: http://www.paranaiv.no/files/images/638c2f06ac85ux8.jpg (nsfw)
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09:27.15Industrialthul: do want
09:27.31Industrialhttp://wowwebstats.com/5ihujrefom55s?a=x10758da&s=169308-198435
09:27.55Industrialheres that enhancement shammy dps WWS for patchwerk
09:28.05Repo10button-bin: 03dhedbor * r59 / (3 files in 1 directory):
09:28.06Industrial4620 :P
09:28.08Industrialdps
09:28.08Repo- Fixed default layout to use a sane 3 bin setup emulating left/right/center FuBar geometry.
09:28.08Industrial:D
09:28.10Repo- Added ability to move Blizzard frames out of the way to make room for the bins.
09:28.13Repo- Added ability to assign a bin to a data block in the data block configuration.
09:28.24NeoTronButtonBin, now moar like fubar (by default)
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09:29.00IndustrialMOAR expertise rating!!11
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09:36.38NeoTronLibJostle made the whole moving of blizzard frames rather trivial
09:37.18nevcairielits also evil
09:37.28Fisker-haxes
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09:38.51NeoTronnevcairiel: evil works for me
09:39.06NeoTronrather than doing that stuff myself
09:41.43pompyanyone recommend a good dkp addon?
09:42.06NeoTronI won't go as far as recommend it but I use my own addon MagicDKP
09:42.21NeoTronI will fully admit though that it's far from perfect and not necessarily suitable for a lot of systems
09:43.35Megalonjostles Fisker- to death
09:49.26Fisker-STOP IT
09:49.28Fisker-I'M FISHING
09:49.33Fisker-stupid sewer rats
09:49.41Fisker-OVER NINE THOUSAND casts
09:55.18Zhinjioare you serious?
09:55.27Zhinjioit took me like... 30
09:55.33Zhinjiothats crazy
09:55.51Zhinjioon the other hand, I do not yet have either of the two city fish (IF/ORG)
09:56.00Zhinjioand I have over 1000 casts in to each of those
10:00.22Fisker-owned
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10:00.32Fisker-not srs though
10:00.45Fisker-only got like 1600 casts
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10:02.18Repo10button-bin: 03dhedbor * r60 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Disabled debug.
10:02.21Repo- Fixed configuration issue.
10:02.28robotuschFisker- :D
10:02.33robotuschStill in the sewers?
10:02.44Fisker-of course
10:02.52Fisker-still looking on the ah?
10:03.05robotuschhelping JokkeDK with some group quests, he broke down and reactivated again xD
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10:06.34Repo10big-wigs: 03LCF_HeLL * r4930 Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: ruRU update
10:06.59Repo10goldenticket: 03dhedbor * r6 GoldenTicket.toc: No change... repackaging with new localization.
10:08.13Fisker-this is my madness face
10:10.23robotuschthis is my /mock face
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10:22.38Fisker-http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/platine_autosave.aspx <-fail
10:24.04Elsiamorning
10:26.23sb|workui reload every 5 minutes? :P
10:27.40Megalonnope
10:27.45Megalontypes .save in chat
10:27.52Megalonfor pserver without autosave
10:28.02sb|work*bonk*
10:28.03sb|workokay %-)
10:28.08Fisker-ALMOST!
10:28.17Fisker-got a drowned rat
10:28.21robotuschFusker, still nothing on AH'
10:28.28Megalonthe mouth-to-mouth
10:28.31Megalonand you're fine
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10:30.01Industrialsb|work: did you get my wws?
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10:47.24Trell_what - when did they add the ajaxy (for want of a better description) 'suggestions' dropdown to the wowhead firefox search box?
10:48.34nevcairielbeen there for ever
10:50.02Trell_I've never seen it before.
10:50.18Trell_:(
10:52.23Fisker-slaps Trell_ around a bit with a large trout
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11:02.26Industrialthey did that around uh, months[random(4,7)] last year? :P
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11:27.49Repo10recount: 03Elsia * r980 / (3 files in 1 directory):
11:27.52Repo- Added Spirit of Redemption (hopy priest) and Shadow of Death (unholy DK) handling. These will only be counted once to deaths now, but will still show in time tracks, but marked with the effect causing the death. e.g. X dies. (Spirit of Redemption). Thanks to the good people of wowace, acheron and expiration for providing clues how to implement this.
11:27.56Repo- Minor optimization to death handling
11:28.00Repo- Some debug messages removed
11:28.04Repo- Deaths are now recorded out of combat.
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11:34.01Repo10repairbroker: 03sonomus * r13 RepairBroker.lua: Sonomus: ButtonBin hack.
11:35.26Grumso is there already a good updater-client or should people just use wowmatrix?
11:37.17Elsiawowmatrix is an evol wordz
11:37.33Grumyes but the curseclient actually breaks your addons
11:37.49ElsiaI hear a new version will be out soon
11:37.56Grumyes as has been said for months now :)
11:38.07Grumand 'soon' wont ease the updating process now ;)
11:38.37Elsiawell true dat. I basically use a mix of CC and manual updates and it works reasonably well for me. I update wowinterface addons manually.
11:39.06ElsiaBut currently I operate on the "don't update unless broken or missing features I really need" paradigm, so manual updates are no big hassle.
11:39.09Repo10repairbroker: 03sonomus 043.0.8 Beta2 * r14 : Tagging as 3.0.8 Beta2
11:39.50Elsiaproblem with wowmatrix is that it's leeching bandwidth and doing so for profit, so that's uncool
11:40.07Grummatters not much from my pov; i'd download the addons in either rway
11:40.21Groktarmoans suggestively at Grum
11:40.32nevcairielGrum: try the latest beta, its working pretty nice, its nearly RC now, so i've been told
11:40.36Elsiawell it matters if the legit addon sites go under because of the cost
11:40.39Grumwhich is the latest beta?
11:40.44nevcairiel2.1.1.10 or so
11:40.55GrumElsia: again matters nothing for me right now :)
11:41.01Grumnevcairiel: url?
11:41.11nevcairielhttp://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/files/13-2-1-1-10/
11:42.37Elsiahmm that does look nice
11:42.45Elsiathe latest vs installed is very useful
11:43.12nevcairielshould only be a few more weeks to release
11:43.22nevcairielonly getting bugfixes now
11:43.23nevcairielfeatures all done
11:44.30rapidgameGrum: I'd laugh if the addon authors all stopped updating/releasing fixes, on the basis that it doesn't matter much to them
11:45.23Repo10sell-o-matic: 03Silmano 041.1.08 * d2771e2 /: [new tag, +1 commits]
11:45.26Repo- Added Korean locale, thanks to shwy72.
11:45.43Grumis it me ... or is the new client completely uncapable of handling the lod structure of some addons?
11:46.03Grumlike ora2; it gets downloaded with 4 directories in it; but the client doesnt get it
11:46.08Grumand just marks it as 'i dont know it'
11:46.26Grumand when the client downloads it it has the nice participant/leader/etc directories inside ora2
11:46.26nevcairielworked for me on other LoD addons
11:46.29nevcairieltries ora
11:46.45nevcairielGrum: thats oRAs fault then
11:46.53Grumbigwigs is also broken from what i see here
11:46.55nevcairielyou LoD it manually?
11:46.58Grumno
11:47.05Grumthis is a previous wowace.com download
11:47.41nevcairielit worked for the addons i tried
11:48.08Repo10sell-o-matic: 03Silmano 04v1.1.08 * 4aaed47 /: [new tag, +1 commits]
11:48.11Grummy gf is trying it now
11:48.12Repo- Added Korean locale thanks to shwy72.
11:48.28Grumand it doesnt recognize ~25 addons orso
11:48.30nevcairielif you think something is broken, tell Kaelten|away or Kolie and/or write a ticket
11:48.33Grumeventhough some are definately from curse
11:49.29PneumatusBigWigs/oRA2 are both recognised in my CC :o
11:49.50Megalondon't you have to add all addons manually from the curse site
11:49.50nevcairieloRA2 installed properly, too
11:49.52Megalonto the cc
11:49.54Grumfunny
11:50.08Pneumatushave you tried reinstalling them through the CC?
11:50.11nevcairielMegalon: it should recognize them if you installed a zip from curse before
11:50.34Megalonhm k :>
11:50.41Elsiacheck the unknown addons tab, it gives rather sensible suggestions of the true source of those that it wasn't able to safely classify
11:50.42Pneumatusyeh, assuming you have just unpacked a zip from wowace, it should recognise it
11:50.48Grumif you type: bigwings then you see the selection of bigwigs but the selection it found is unselectable
11:51.04nevcairielthats because bigwings is typoed?
11:51.20Elsiabigwigs ;)
11:51.31Grumi know
11:51.34ElsiaOr NJ big hair as they call it
11:51.35Grumbut it still gives the list
11:51.38nevcairieli dunno, i just typed bigwigs in the search box
11:51.40Grumand the list should be empty
11:51.44nevcairieland could select it
11:51.45Grumyes now typo it
11:51.51Grumthe same list is there; but you cannot select anything
11:52.04nevcairielwhen i typo it, its empty
11:52.08nevcairielyou are broken :P
11:52.09Grumhmm its not here
11:52.21Grummaybe just some refresh-fail
11:52.31nevcairiel2.1.1.10 Beta 1?
11:53.02nevcairielat least it properly detects nolib now
11:53.10nevcairielthat was broken in .9 :)
11:53.10Grumyeah
11:53.14Grumthe one you just pointed at
11:53.18Grumit seems to be going okish
11:53.30Grumif you go through the list of unknown addons
11:53.33nevcairielI dunno, all you describe works for me
11:53.44Grumand then find and install them
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11:58.35ElsiaI like it. seems to work well after you identified the unknown ones
11:59.49Elsiahmm except that bigwigs refuses to update from r4833 to r4921, it does update but it keeps popping up in the old config after you click refresh
12:00.35nevcairieldid you check if the files updated maybe?
12:00.48nevcairielbut the client just doesnt know?
12:01.10nevcairielthe .toc should have a curse version tag
12:01.14nevcairielfor identifying
12:01.20ElsiaI'll check
12:02.06Elsiahmm don't see any curse version tag in the toc
12:02.11Repo10fubar_professionsfu: 03Anxarces * r52 / (3 files in 1 directory): FuBar_ProfessionsFu:
12:02.12Elsiawhat should it look like?
12:02.14Repo- Fixed an issue in the German version with cooking not opening whith a grand master skill. (I wonder, how often Blizz will change that :-( )
12:02.29nevcairiel## X-Curse-Packaged-Version: r4930
12:02.30nevcairiel## X-Curse-Project-Name: BigWigs Bossmods
12:02.50nevcairieland some other lines
12:02.55Elsiaah got it ## X-Curse-Packaged-Version: r4921-release, it's the updated one, so I think CC got confused, probably because bigwigs had many modules installed separately
12:02.57Repo10titan-professions: 03Anxarces * r35 / (3 files in 1 directory): TitanProfessions:
12:03.00Repo- Fixed an issue in the German version with cooking not opening whith a grand master skill. (I wonder, how often Blizz will change that :-( )
12:04.03Repo10professions-book: 03Anxarces * r74 / (6 files in 1 directory): ProfessionsBook:
12:04.06Repo- Trade skill cooldowns added
12:06.45nevcairiel@ticket curse-client-beta
12:06.47Reponevcairiel: (ticket <project> <ticket-num> or <game>/<project> <ticket-num>) -- Returns details about the ticket
12:06.57nevcairiel@ticketfor curse-client-beta
12:07.03nevcairielhm
12:07.06nevcairielwhat was the command
12:08.04Elsia@ticketlist
12:08.10Elsiano clue :D
12:08.21nevcairiel@project curse-client-beta
12:08.22Reponevcairiel: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/. Curse Client 2.1 Beta. Kaelten (Manager), Kolie (Author). Updated: 15 hours ago. Tickets: 45/83
12:08.28nevcairielfeel free to write a ticket for your issue ^
12:10.00Grumhumz
12:10.09Grumhow do you get the beta client to download alpha stuff?
12:10.36Grumeven when i say the defaul release preference is 'alpha' it still makes all my addons as 'up2date'
12:10.36Pneumatuseither select your global release type to alpha, or right click certain addons and change the install type
12:10.40Grumwhich is BS :)
12:11.16Pneumatusim assuming the former works, but i know the latter works as i have Beta as my global release pref but some addons flagged for alpha
12:11.45nevcairielGrum: it does tell you that you might need to restart the client
12:12.25nevcairielat least the previous version said that
12:13.13Grumthe 'reset all' checkbox doesnt work as it should i think
12:15.38Repo10ag_unitframes: 03Nevcairiel * r686 modules/auras/auras.lua: Sort auras to only show the players auras first
12:15.47Kalroth:o
12:15.51Kalrothhugs nevcairiel.
12:16.09Grumhmm ctrl-a, ->Beta seems to work
12:16.11Grumand then refresh
12:19.08Grummost stuff seems to work now\
12:19.18Grumstrange behaviour if there is a .svn dir
12:19.25Grumthe reinstall option doesnt seem to actually update :)
12:19.36nevcairielit should ignore folders with .svn in
12:19.38Pneumatusbecause youve got a preference to ignore working directories
12:19.39nevcairielif you have the option on
12:19.52Grumyeah but the addon still gives you a reinstall option
12:19.53nevcairielor rather, the optin off
12:19.55Grumand then does a NOOP :P
12:21.12nevcairielwrite tickets
12:21.17nevcairieland it will get fixed
12:22.35Industrialwrites Fisker- a ticket; reason: sexyness. solution: my place at 9 for my fix
12:23.29Grumi'll await the next version and test that one myself
12:24.14Industrialnevcairiel: oh there you are
12:24.39Industrialnevcairiel: I'm using ag_unitframes atm and I'm wondering hoe to turn the auras off completely on a unit
12:24.43Industrialhow*
12:25.04nevcairielset buff and debuff to position = Hidden
12:25.04Industrialand if there's a setting for overriding the font on all unitframes at once =)
12:25.15Industrialok
12:25.42nevcairieli dunno about global font
12:26.01Repo10questitem: 03Pericles * r39 / (2 files in 1 directory): QuestItem: -
12:26.04RepoVersion 1.30
12:26.07RepoChanged the keybinding to toggle frame open and closed
12:27.46Repo10auto-invite: 03idefix6 * r34 / (4 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
12:27.49RepoAdded functionality to filter complete list quickly by inserting a text. The filter will search in character name/class/level.
12:27.52RepoFilter can be disabled by pressing the Escape key.
12:27.55RepoAdded scroll functionality to complete list.
12:27.58RepoAdded basic functions to display raid members which are not in the same zone.
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12:32.45Industrialstrangulates form validation
12:32.57Industrialone of the most anoying webdevelopment jobs :p
12:33.36Industrialadded fun when you don't have the luxury of using proven and tested methods and have to make it all up yourself!
12:33.45KalrothJust throw the post variables directly to the SQL query, easy!
12:34.12Industrialmeh ofcourse im escaping strings but still meh
12:34.27Kalrothyeah, forms suck in general
12:35.03KalrothI'm fairly slack when it comes to validating inputs from forms though
12:35.22Kalrothwith numeric values I cast them to int or float and check for a min-max range
12:35.38Kalrothwith strings it's just escaping and checking for size
12:35.47IndustrialI _could_ just use jQuery-validate :p
12:35.55KalrothToo easy
12:36.02Industrial(ofcourse still do server side checks)
12:36.29Industrialoh, another one; pagination! :D
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12:40.58Pneumatusanyone know of an addon that will surpress "XXX has recieved item YYY" chat messages for specific items?
12:45.01KalrothI made a simple one for Chatter, but Antiarc hates me and doesn't want to include it!
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12:45.15AntiarcI just forgot about it :(
12:45.17AntiarcYou can commit it!
12:45.22Pneumatusthinking i might just tack the code on to the end of GreedBeacon or something
12:45.25KalrothI don't have SVN access :P
12:45.29Antiarcbah.
12:45.44Pneumatusas watching >9k badges being looted is pointless
12:46.44KalrothIt's is rather poorly implemented though, the main reason I didn't bug you more, Antiarc :) I just hook AddMessage() and simply look for " receives loot:"
12:46.50Antiarcheh
12:46.56AntiarcI think there's an event for that
12:47.50Kalrothand yes Pneumatus, that is exactly what I use it for :)
12:48.07Kalrothemblems and uhhm, those pvp tokens
12:48.16Pneumatuswell i use PassLoot and GreedBeacon to basically get rid of every loot notification i can
12:48.18Kalrothand other misc shit, like people creating bandages
12:48.31Pneumatusits just random crap has been looted messages that i still have :_)
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12:50.02Pneumatusit could probably be a pretty compact stand-alone addon anyway
12:50.09Pneumatuswouldnt need to tie to chatter/prat/we
12:50.10KalrothYup
12:50.31KalrothI just picked Chatter since it was super easy to (ab)use it's UI setup
12:50.45Repo10enhancedcalendar: 03Pericles * r18 RaidInviter.lua: RaidInviter: -
12:50.48Reposmall frame tidy ups
12:50.50Pneumatusyeh, some kind of UI would be the "hard" bit
12:50.58Kalrothboring more like it :P
12:51.01Pneumatusother than that, its probably only a couple dozen lines of code
12:51.05Pneumatusif that
12:51.57Pneumatushmm, 1) can i be bothered to code something, and 2) should i even bother using a framework to do it
12:52.25KalrothYou don't use Chatter?
12:52.30Pneumatusnah, i use Prat
12:52.37Kalrotheff!
12:55.21PneumatusCHAT_MSG_LOOT fires for all the loot chat messages
12:58.46Pneumatusholy crap
12:58.52Pneumatusit can be done in like 4 lines
12:59.14Kalroththe UI too? :p
13:00.00Pneumatusno.
13:00.21Kalrothalso can you squelsh CHAT_MSG_LOOT events from RegisterEvent()? :)
13:04.00PneumatusChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter
13:05.12robotuschSo, Fisker-, any luck?
13:11.29Groktarsolos ubrs for some valor chest
13:12.41sacarasccauses Groktar to fail
13:12.51Groktardrakk killed me the first time
13:13.08Groktargetting conflag is brutal
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13:21.20Groktarwoooo draconian deflector
13:24.23sacarascGee zed, as it were
13:25.56Repo10hazfish: 03MightyHaz * r4 / (2 files in 1 directory):
13:25.59RepoFixed item lures (when pole equipped), and tidied up as requested.
13:29.42Pneumatuscan anyone point me into a way to compress these two patterns into one: http://ace.pastey.net/107355
13:30.12Pneumatusthe line either ends with "." or "xN." where N is a number :)
13:32.32nevcairielcant you just stop matching after the name?
13:32.54nevcairielbesides, escape char in lua is %
13:33.23gixyou can try something like ".* receives? loot: (.*)[x.]%d-\.?$" maybe
13:34.40Pneumatusnevcairiel: escaping . with a \ works tho :o
13:35.25nevcairielmsg:match(".* receives? loot: (.*)(x.+)?%.")
13:35.26nevcairiel?
13:36.03nevcairiellua> msg = "Me receives loot: [Cool Item]x2."; return msg:match(".* receives? loot: (.*)(x.+)?%.")
13:36.03lua_botnevcairiel: nil
13:36.26Pneumatus".* receives? loot: (.*)x?%d*%." seems to do the trick
13:37.21Pneumatusit would cause an issue if a link ever ended in |x though, which isnt gonna happen as it ends in |r
13:37.29nevcairieltrue
13:39.02quiescenser
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13:40.39Pneumatusseems such a waste to make this an addon: http://ace.pastey.net/107356
13:41.34nevcairielwhat do you want to hide? badges?
13:41.42Pneumatusyeh
13:41.52break19badges? we dun need no steenkin badges
13:42.12nevcairielcan you make the snippet still show my own badge, so i remember to take it?
13:42.15nevcairielthen i'll steal it
13:42.15nevcairiel:P
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13:42.19break19makes an autoresponder for that..
13:42.21break19heh
13:42.46Pneumatusjust get rid of the ? after recieves
13:42.59Pneumatusself = recieve; other = recieves
13:43.24quiescensare you sure that works
13:43.38quiescenstechnically shouldn't the (.*) pick up everything
13:44.01Pneumatusno, its not that greedy
13:44.17Pneumatus.* will match everything up to "recieves?"
13:44.29Pneumatusaka, "You" or <player>
13:44.57Pneumatusand (.*) matches until . or xN.
13:45.17nevcairielit'll always try to match the full string
13:45.25nevcairielinstead of using .* for everything
13:45.51Pneumatusit matches the least possible while still making a match, right?
13:45.58Pneumatusso it's only as greedy as it needs to be
13:46.08nevcairielit'Ll match as much as possible
13:46.26nevcairielwhile .- matches as least
13:46.49quiescensthat's what I mean
13:46.53quiescensthe (.*) part
13:47.04quiescenswill match "[item]x5"
13:47.10nevcairielno
13:47.28nevcairielor hm
13:47.48quiescenslua> moo="abc receives loot: [item]x5." print( moo:match(".* receives? loot: (.*)x?%d*%.") )
13:47.49lua_botquiescens: [item]x5
13:48.18nevcairiellua> msg = "FooBar receives loot: [Emblem of Heroism]x5." return msg:match(".* receives loot: (.*)x?%d*%.")
13:48.18lua_botnevcairiel: [Emblem of Heroism]x5
13:48.22nevcairiellua> msg = "FooBar receives loot: [Emblem of Heroism]x5." return msg:match(".* receives loot: (.-)x?%d*%.")
13:48.22lua_botnevcairiel: [Emblem of Heroism]
13:48.22quiescensbecause x? and %d* can both match nothing, so .* takes as much as possible
13:48.25nevcairielthen with -
13:48.52nevcairielyeah i didnt remember that we had optional parts at the end
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13:49.20Pneumatusisnt * the same as -?
13:49.25Pneumatusaccording to PIL it is
13:49.31nevcairielno
13:49.33nevcairiel* is greedy
13:49.35nevcairiel- is not
13:49.38Pneumatus*0 or more repetitions; -also 0 or more repetitions
13:49.40Pneumatusaha
13:49.43quiescensthey both match "any amount", but its a matter of whether it matches as much as it can
13:49.46quiescensor as little as it needs
13:50.13gixaged yolk \o/ again
13:50.20nevcairielanother 6 lines in my homebrew chat mod :)
13:50.24quiescensgrats gix
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13:50.35nevcairielmy egg cracks in about 4 hours
13:50.37nevcairielwish me luck :P
13:51.04Pneumatusso; http://ace.pastey.net/107359 then remove the ? after receives to make it only surpress others
13:51.12nevcairielyeah i did that
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13:52.10nevcairiel230 lines of chatmod, even including config at the top
13:52.10nevcairiel:)
13:53.12Pneumatuswell, that snippit is in it's own addon now here :P
13:53.16robotuschnevcairiel, going for the mount? :P
13:53.38nevcairielPneumatus: i have a NevMod for that, where my chatmod resides in too :)
13:53.41gixPneumatus: why don't you but the x and . in a character class. seems safer to me
13:53.44nevcairielrobotusch: i would rather have the pets
13:53.54robotuschthat makes the two of us then :P
13:54.02robotuschI'm running for the blue protodrake anyway
13:54.10nevcairielI could have the red one
13:54.16nevcairielif i just finished that last achievement
13:54.18nevcairielbut i'm lazy
13:54.27Pneumatustechnically it probably would be safer, but a link is never going to end in anything other than |r anyway
13:54.51nevcairielalso, arena drake is faster then any of the proto drakes
13:55.14gixthen at least set a $ at the end imo!
13:55.15Repo10hazfish: 03MightyHaz 041.01-release * r5 : Tagging as 1.01-release
13:56.26Repo10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r55 HazLoot.toc: Fixed dumb mistakes, as requested
13:56.51nevcairielyeah a $ might make sense
13:57.01nevcairiellua> msg = "FooBar receives loot: [Emblem of .Heroism]x5." return msg:match(".* receives loot: (.-)x?%d*%.")
13:57.02lua_botnevcairiel: [Emblem of
13:57.05Megalonnev: glory of the raider is also 310%
13:57.14nevcairielnot that a item contains a dot sometime :P
13:57.51Megalonlua> msg = "FooBar receives loot: [Emblem of .Heroism]x5." return msg:match(".* receives loot: (.-)x?%d*%.$")
13:57.51lua_botMegalon: [Emblem of .Heroism]
13:57.53Megalonhf
13:57.59Megalonyou can pay me in candy
13:58.18nevcairielMegalon: it was pretty obvious how to fix it, i just demonstrated the error :P
13:58.31Megaloneveryone says that afterwards!
13:58.39nevcairielMegalon: the plagued drake is ugly though, and finishing it in 25.... oh well :P
13:59.06nevcairielisnt loatheb achievement still bugged?
13:59.09Megalonyou can also finish it in 10man :P
13:59.22nevcairielyeah but 10man gives the plagued drake
13:59.24nevcairieland its ugly
13:59.50Megalonwell, as a druid i don't care anyway
13:59.54Pneumatusspore loser is fine in 10man for sure, no idea about 25man
14:00.01Megalonspore looser is fixed
14:00.14nevcairieli havent really been doing anything in wow for 2 weeks or so
14:00.20Megalons/oo/o/
14:00.25nevcairieli only know that spore loser was bugged before
14:00.31nevcairielwhen we tried it
14:00.33gixspore loser isn't needed anyway
14:01.59nevcairielHm if spore loser isnt needed, i think i'm only missing the immortal for the 25
14:02.13nevcairieloh and denying a scion
14:02.19nevcairielftl for healers :(
14:02.53nevcairielah damn only got the volcano one for 10man :P
14:02.54Industrialstill need to do the 20mans
14:04.27Grumnevcairiel: just die at the pull ;)
14:04.42Megalonbut after hitting him at least once ;)
14:04.42nevcairielwe only do it +3 now =(
14:04.49gixor just l2play and move!
14:04.50nevcairielcant just die
14:04.59Megalonthen do nothing
14:05.06Megalonbut looking for the lava blobs
14:05.08Megalon;)
14:05.10nevcairielhehe
14:05.51gixi did it with 3 drakes, but i'm ranged dps, and not a healer. :P
14:07.06Megalonone of our hunters got that achievement on our first s+3 in 25 :C
14:07.53Grum10+3 is not fun
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14:32.15Groktarwhoa
14:32.29Groktari don't remember a blue melee neck dropping from emberseer
14:33.34nevcairielthey buffed loot
14:34.51Brunerseven drops blues from Ragefire Chasm now
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14:51.57Stanzillalol they broke google
14:52.07Stanzillaevery page is reported as malware
14:55.08Pneumatusheh, fail
14:55.47Pneumatus502 error when checking why it was flagged as well
15:00.52ThraeArrowmaster: twobits took over TinyTip under my direction. He's just pushing out WotLK fixes right now and making a real GUI from TinyTipOptions.
15:02.12ThraeArrowmaster: I told him the core tennants of TinyTip and he says he wouldn't have it any other way.
15:07.05kenlyricis one of the core tenants to show me the guild rank of my target?
15:07.09kenlyricthis is v important
15:07.12quiescensI always did wonder what kind of vetting process was used to determine whether to list something in google's thingy
15:07.30quiescensof course not, tooltips show your mouseover, not your target!
15:07.33kenlyricquiescens: wowhead?
15:07.43quiescens?
15:08.07quiescensI mean, I had wondered whether it was possible for google's malware warning thingy to be wrong
15:08.12Repo10buttonfacade: 03StormFX * r214 Locales.lua: - Testing auto-injection of locales again.
15:08.13kenlyricthought you were referring to wowhead showing up as a malicious site
15:08.38quiescensand how much effort it would take for a site owner to clear up a mistake
15:08.41kenlyricthe reason page is throwing a 502
15:08.44kenlyricit's fairly easy
15:08.52kenlyricfix the problem, tell them to rescan
15:08.53quiescensanyway, slashdot and others say, google is or was reporting Everything as malware
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15:09.02quiescensincluding itself
15:09.14quiescensit might be fixed already
15:09.20kenlyricoh, you're right
15:09.22kenlyricit is everything
15:09.39quiescenshence, I had wondered whether it was possible for something to be incorrectly flagged
15:09.43kenlyricif you try to find out why you get a 502
15:09.58quiescensso, unless every single site recently decided to be malware, I think it answers my question
15:10.02quiescenslol
15:10.59kenlyrici've not had a single false positive from it before, and they flag our university quite frequently
15:11.08kenlyricthrottles bb software
15:11.35Thraehttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=google+this+site+may+harm+your+computer&btnG=Search <-- even Google's own answer to the dilemma may harm your computer
15:11.57quiescensthrae's posting malware links
15:11.59quiescensgoogle says so
15:12.01quiescenswait..
15:17.47ThraeGoogle has been fixed, stop panicking.
15:18.18Pneumatusnevcairiel: dont forget to add 43228 for stone keeper shards :P
15:23.04XinhuanElsia, around? ;p
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15:23.11Elsiaquack
15:23.22Xinhuanrecount is counting all my mirror image deaths ;p
15:23.25Xinhuanas my deaths hehe
15:23.37Elsiahmm
15:24.05Xinhuanits not exactly related to the priest SoR one, but on the same line of counting extra deaths hehe
15:24.35Elsiado they have the same name as you? or isn't it Mirror Image <Guardian of Xinhuan>?
15:25.12Elsiathey are separate entities so it's a different thing, really it shouldn't happen because these are pet deaths
15:25.25Xinhuani'm not very sure
15:25.32Xinhuanmy combat log lists it as [Mirror Image]
15:26.01Xinhuanalso i'm not very sure what kind of death recount is counting
15:26.13Xinhuanbecause the images die by themselves after 30 secs too
15:26.24Elsiawell recount only response to UNIT_DIED events
15:26.38Elsiaproblem is I don't have a lvl 80 mage to test this
15:27.08Elsiait's weird too because if that was the case it really should affect shaman totems, hunter pets etc etc
15:27.10Xinhuani can probably get u a combat log
15:27.14Xinhuanin a few minutes
15:27.15Elsiathere is no special handling for mirror images
15:27.19Elsiacool
15:27.22Xinhuanjust need to summon one
15:27.43Elsiacan you take a peak at the death details too, maybe there is a clue there
15:28.04Xinhuanlets see i need to get to a place where mobs are powerful enough to kill my images hehe
15:28.34Elsiahogger is vicious
15:31.47Pneumatusanyone know what the expertise cap is for dps to cap against dodges?
15:32.03Pneumatuscant find it on wowwiki :<
15:32.04selckin5% ish
15:33.48Megalon6.5%
15:33.52Megalon26 expertise
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15:34.03Megalon216 rating i think
15:34.09Pneumatuscheers
15:34.51Megalona little mor then 210 at least ;)
15:34.58haste214
15:35.14Pneumatus6.5% anyway, right?
15:35.27selckin"The estimated dodge cap is at 6.5%, which would require 26 expertise or 214 expertise rating to achieve.
15:35.33hasteyep
15:36.08selckinBoss dodge chance is thought to be between 6.25% and 6.5%.
15:36.09selckinFor 6.5% boss dodge chance (26/26 expertise):
15:36.11selckin26 expertise (214 expertise rating) to cap.
15:36.47Xinhuani'm not very sure how it works Elsia, since i can't seem to reproduce death counts when soloing
15:38.35ElsiaI have no clue how that can happen
15:38.50Xinhuanhere Elsia
15:38.51Xinhuanhttp://paste.wowace.com/230/
15:39.10Xinhuanin the first 108 lines, i engaged a mob, summoned MI, and let the mob kill all 3
15:39.32Xinhuanin the 2nd half, i summoned MI, then engaged a mob, and let all 3 mobs "expire death"
15:39.41Xinhuanthat is, the 3 images died by themselves thru expiry
15:40.02Elsiaseems to be no difference, all trigger correct UNIT_DIED events, for the mirror image
15:40.09Elsiaso certainly the combat log is correct
15:40.17Repo10buttonfacade: 03StormFX * r215 / (3 files in 1 directory): - Rename ButtonFacade.lua to Core.lua.
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15:40.48Xinhuanthe thing is, i think the combat log could be different when viewed by a 2nd player
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15:41.01Xinhuanthat is, it would list my images as "Xinhuan" rather than "Mirror Image"
15:41.15Xinhuani'm not sure on this one
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15:41.55Xinhuani certainly didn't 9 die times in naxx yesterday and yet still have 40% durability hehe
15:42.51Elsiahmm
15:42.59Elsiaso was it reported wrong for you or for others?
15:42.59Xinhuanyou see, if i target an image and /print UnitName("target")
15:43.05Xinhuanit prints "Xinhuan", nil
15:43.23Megalonmirror images always have the name of the caster
15:43.29Xinhuanyet, the combat log as recorded by /combatlog says the name is "Mirror Image"
15:43.35Elsiathat still shouldn't confuse recount because it detects it's a guardian from the GUID
15:43.37Xinhuansee the paste
15:43.41Megalonfor others i think
15:43.51Megalonwhen i get ganked by 80 mages on my twinks
15:43.58Megalonall 4 always had the same name
15:43.58Xinhuanare deaths synced?
15:44.06Elsiano
15:44.21Xinhuanwell my combat log in game shows it as [Mirror Image]
15:44.27Xinhuani think other people see [Xinhuan] though
15:44.55Xinhuanthere's some weirdness here where the UnitName() isn't used
15:45.16Elsiai'm pretty sure it's intended for PVP
15:45.49Elsiait could be that it in fact reports them as GUID you for the same reason
15:46.00Elsiaso that addons cannot expose the true mage
15:46.08Elsiain which case I may be out of luck tracking this
15:46.15Xinhuanremember i reported previously that recount is only counting 1 image's damage?
15:46.21Elsiathat would be very much like the FD thing actually
15:46.25Xinhuanthat is for me, it counts me+3 images damage
15:46.26Elsiathat's fixed
15:46.38Xinhuanbut for others, it was counting only counting me+1image
15:46.43Xinhuannot sure if its related
15:47.09Elsiaa combat log of a mage observing a ,mage using mirror image would be helpful basically
15:47.21Elsianot a mage, any class observing
15:47.40Elsiaactually let me look through the CLs I ahve
15:50.53Elsiaraid mirror images show as "mirror image" in the combat log
15:51.14Elsiaso if anything it seems to be only the name plate and maybe UnitName that gets mixed up
15:51.52Elsiafrankly I think it's more likely that there is a bug unrelated to mirror image deaths
15:52.01Elsiahow many times did you truthfully die in naxx?
15:52.17Xinhuani don't know but my items didn't go yellow
15:52.24Xinhuanrecount said 9 times
15:52.30Elsiaso lets say 5 times vs 9
15:53.19Xinhuani think i'll try to reproduce the issue before bugging u further about it
15:53.25Elsiaok
15:53.31quiescensall we have to do is kill xinhuan a couple times
15:53.36Elsiahehe
15:53.36Xinhuanlol
15:53.39quiescensstabs xinhuan with a pillow.
15:54.02Elsiai was testing spirit of redemption handling... repeated cliff diving suicide of a naked dwarf female :P
15:54.13Xinhuanwhat class do you play
15:54.27Elsiai have 9 alts 70+, main resto shaman
15:54.32Xinhuano_O
15:54.38quiescenso.o
15:54.39Xinhuanhow do you find time
15:54.41Elsiait's really handy for recount debugging :P
15:54.55Elsialeveling is fast, and I had 4 years basically
15:54.58quiescensgo to sleep
15:55.17Xinhuani noted that i'm the only person in my guild running r974 recount (which is not too ld, but quite old)
15:55.23Xinhuanthe rest of my guild is on r93x
15:55.35Xinhuansurprisingly about 90% of my guild runs recount
15:56.10ElsiaI don't think recount has had a really major issue except for that localization mixup. should check if that's pre 93x or after :P
15:56.35Xinhuandid you reach any conclusion with that rampage thing
15:57.38Elsiawell I think the group setup contributed to it, but it's still a pathologically poor buff mechanics
15:57.53ElsiaI told alex and he'll have a better angle to see if it's a problem blizz-side
15:58.12Xinhuandid he reply?
15:58.19Elsianot yet but it's weekend
15:58.40Elsiathe army of death bug will be fixed soonish though ;)
16:00.16Elsiahehe version r93x is before the translation hiccup so these version are fairly sensibly bug-free (modulo minor stuff)
16:00.41Xinhuani don't think my guild members regularly update addons anymore, ever since WAU went dead
16:00.48waallendoes recount take ghouls and gargoyles into account?
16:00.51Xinhuanthey only now update "when its obviously broken"
16:01.03Elsiayeah ghouls and gargoyles are counted towards DK as pets
16:01.18waallennice
16:01.23Elsiaor guardians, not sure which right now... "pet" is generic for pet or guardian in recount-land
16:01.42IndustrialIf it does what you want then why update at all tbh :) I wrote addons pre 2.0 and they still work
16:01.52Industrialactually I patched 5 lines total I think on idChat :E
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16:06.13Elsiathe new curse client beta is pretty nice actually, nev got me to try it today
16:06.31nevcairielits nearing its release, it better be
16:07.06Elsiasome people may just go back to updating like loonies after that :D
16:07.58Elsiaalright time for some food intake
16:09.02Pneumatusyeh, people that want to update like loonies can just set every addon to update alphas
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16:44.09Xinhuanhttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=24324#screenshots
16:45.40Fisker-though old :o
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16:57.54Repo10buttonfacade: 03StormFX * r216 Modules/ButtonTest.lua: Update localization in ButtonTest module.
16:59.30cncfanaticsanyone can suggest me an actionbar addon that lets me create more then 10 bar groups ?
17:00.52nevcairielflexbar
17:00.56Fisker-flexbar
17:01.48cncfanaticsdie
17:01.57cncfanatics~shoot nevcairiel
17:01.58purlACTION shoots nevcairiel in the eye with a phase pistol!
17:02.00Fisker-why so trolled?
17:02.00cncfanatics~lart Fisker-
17:02.00purlbeats Fisker- senseless with a 50lb Unix manual
17:02.11nevcairieli thought it was funny
17:02.17Fisker-i lol'd as well
17:02.34cncfanaticsI lol'd as well, doesn't mean I can't shoot u after :p
17:03.58Fisker-i'm fishing
17:04.11Megalondrowns Fisker-
17:04.21Fisker-halp
17:04.24cncfanaticsputs a fishing pole in Fisker-'s ass
17:04.25Fisker-oh wait
17:04.30Fisker-I HAS UNDERWATER BREATHING
17:04.58cncfanaticswe're drowning u in the well of eternity
17:05.04cncfanaticsur silenced, so u can't cast underwater breathing
17:05.13Fisker-it's on my staff
17:05.14Fisker-duh
17:05.24Megalonbut the staff is in your ass
17:05.25cncfanaticslies
17:05.31Megalonyou can't breath through that one
17:05.32Fisker-i can breathe through my ass
17:05.37Fisker-true story
17:05.38Fisker-also
17:05.42Megaloni demand a screenshot
17:05.43Fisker-my staff is usually in my hands
17:05.51Fisker-does that mean i breathe through those?
17:06.00cncfanaticsrofl
17:06.08Fisker-Funkeh` got troll'd :(
17:06.09cncfanaticsthat was a good laugh, thanks Megalon, Fisker-
17:07.39Fisker-GIEV GIANT SEWER RAT
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17:39.55Repo10buttonfacade: 03StormFX * r217 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Update ToC with frFR Description.
17:39.59Repo- Move Skins.lua to root directory.
17:40.19Xinhuanckknight
17:40.25Xinhuanfor @localization(locale="enUS", format="lua_table")@
17:40.36Xinhuanhow is it used since it turns it into a table right?
17:40.46XinhuanL = @localization(locale="enUS", format="lua_table")@
17:40.50Xinhuanthat wouldn't compile
17:41.46Xinhuanneither would L = --@localization(locale="enUS", format="lua_table")@
17:41.48Repo10buttonfacade: 03StormFX * r218 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Clean up directories.
17:41.49nevcairielyou have to use --@no-debug@ around it
17:42.00Fisker-btw Xinhuan
17:42.03Xinhuanis that the only way?
17:42.13Fisker-darkmoon faire has to be up and active before you can turn in cards right?
17:42.16Xinhuanyes
17:43.20nevcairielhttp://ace.pastey.net/107369
17:43.23nevcairielthats how it works
17:44.15nevcairielthe additive table is way more common with AceLocale-3.0 anyway
17:45.02Groktarsummons a swarm of locusts to devour nevcairiel
17:46.52Xinhuani wonder if the packager would treat the --[===[ debug comment header properly in conjuction with the --[[===[ used for "commented out unlocalized multiline strings"
17:47.08Xinhuanthere's an extra [ there heh
17:47.15nevcairielwell thats no problem
17:47.25nevcairielwhen the packager processes it
17:47.32nevcairiel--[===[@non-debug@ gets replaced by --@non-debug
17:47.37nevcairielto activate the part in between
17:49.33Xinhuanwould this work?
17:49.33Xinhuanhttp://ace.pastey.net/107370
17:50.30nevcairielyou should provide some sort of table magic for debug builds
17:50.53nevcairieland
17:51.02nevcairielwhy dont you just use additive tables for the non-enUS?
17:51.14nevcairielthat would override the actually translated values
17:51.18nevcairieland keep the english for the others
17:51.20Xinhuanyeah i know
17:51.21nevcairielno meta needed
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17:51.38Xinhuanif LOC == "deDE" then
17:51.38Xinhuan--@localization(locale="deDE", format="lua_additive_table", table-name="L", handle-unlocalized="comment")@
17:51.38Xinhuanelseif ...
17:51.46nevcairielyea
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18:00.31Repo10pass-loot: 03Odlaw * r72 / (2 files in 2 directories):
18:00.34RepoPassLoot: Support for Raid Normal/Heroic in ZoneType filter.
18:01.21TorhalOdlaw: You don't need to prefix your notes with the addon name.
18:01.55nevcairielbut it looks so much cooler
18:02.00nevcairielwait
18:02.01Fisker-slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout
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18:10.39Odlawdon't need to prefix it anymore?
18:10.49Odlawle sigh.. i don't keep up in all the rulz
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18:11.49nevcairielthe prefix was only for the big svn back in the day
18:11.57nevcairielbecause it was shared between projects
18:12.03nevcairielnow everyone has their own repository
18:12.06nevcairielso do wtf you want :P
18:26.02ckknighthey all
18:27.16Torhalckknight: Shh. They're all sleeping.
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18:28.55Fisker-slaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout
18:29.51Groktarhmm
18:29.59Groktari can't turn off the minimap button for bartender4
18:30.11Groktarthink it's sexymap or bt that's doing it?
18:30.18Fisker-your mom
18:30.37Groktarmolests Fisker-
18:30.38HjalteTorhal: I noticed one of your tickets regarding the Curse Client beta. I had the same problem a few builds back, with an addon not updating to latest, but it was due to some of my addons having another Install Type than Alpha. Maybe you should check that :)
18:34.19Fisker-i hate giant sewer rats
18:34.21Fisker-just like cogwheel
18:34.24MegalonGroktar: works for me
18:34.33Megaloni have bt4 and sexymap
18:34.56cogwheelFisker-: \o/ ambiguous language... I hate giant sewer rats just like you hate them... :P
18:36.47Fisker-don't you hate giant sewer rats?
18:37.47Xinhuani took about 1.6k catches on that one
18:37.55Xinhuandon't hate
18:38.15Fisker-only 1.6k?
18:38.23Fisker-i've been fishing for ~20 hours now
18:38.25Xinhuanexactly, don't hate me ;p
18:38.28Fisker-some 3k casts
18:38.36Fisker-i hate you lots
18:39.45TorhalHjalte: Thanks for the pointer :)
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18:43.32Fisker-WHY WONT IT DROP
18:43.33Fisker-:(
18:43.39Fisker-/wrists
18:43.46nevcairielyou dont deserve it
18:43.49Fisker-no u
18:44.53Megaloneven a giant sewer rat has some pride
18:45.02nevcairielindeed
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18:49.10Fisker-i'll start killing people soon btw
18:49.27nevcairielgo nuts
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18:50.00Fisker-i'll start with you
18:50.24Fisker-~roulette
18:50.25purlACTION watches fisker- pull the trigger:  Click!
18:50.27Stanzillapick me
18:50.29Stanzillapick me
18:50.36Fisker-no
18:50.42Fisker-~roulette
18:50.43purlACTION watches fisker- pull the trigger:  Click!
18:51.16Fisker-~roulette
18:51.17purlACTION watches fisker- pull the trigger:  Click!
18:51.47Fisker-~roulette
18:51.47purlACTION watches fisker- pull the trigger:  BANG!
18:55.27ckknight~roulette
18:55.28purlACTION watches ckknight pull the trigger:  Click!
18:55.31Fisker-FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU
18:55.37Zhinjiog'morning.
18:55.45Fisker-~roulette
18:55.46purlACTION watches fisker- pull the trigger:  Click!
18:56.50taleden"no repository found" when I try to commit?  buh?
18:57.17nevcairieldid you just create it?
18:57.26nevcairielor was your project recently renamed?
18:57.27taledenno, apparently it got renamed
18:57.31taledenand nobody told me :X
19:00.12MegalonFisker- will kill the renamer
19:01.18Fisker-~roulette
19:01.19purlACTION watches fisker- pull the trigger:  BANG!
19:04.51hastethe channel - you broke it
19:04.58Fisker-haste my enemy
19:05.21Fisker-either be more useful or gtfo my gear
19:05.33hasteyou don't have any gear!
19:05.49Fisker-i do
19:05.51Fisker-ask cogwheel
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19:07.09robotuschFriends, I must disclose some horrific news
19:07.14robotuschFisker- is learning to drive
19:07.28robotuschSoon the streets will resemble Carmageddon :<
19:07.45Fisker-shh
19:07.58Fisker-atleast i don't try to get myself killed
19:08.05robotuschHow's the rat coming along?
19:08.06Fisker-killing others is ok
19:08.20Fisker-casts = >9000
19:08.22Fisker-no rat
19:08.26robotusch;D
19:08.33Fisker-drakehunt?
19:08.35robotuschI got 2 new trinkets today :S
19:08.38robotuschnegative
19:08.46robotuschonly the damn oozeling that's on
19:08.54Fisker-:E
19:08.55robotuschand I ain't paying 6k for that
19:08.59Fisker-lol
19:09.07Fisker-got mine for 500g or so
19:09.29robotuschbut brb, gotta go massacre some silithids
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19:12.00Brunershaste: check your oGlow.toc
19:12.14hasteBruners: hm?
19:12.16Brunershaste: the reference to oglow.lua is glow.lua
19:12.28robotusch6800 silithid carapace fragments from Brood of Nozdormu neutral :S
19:12.35Fisker-fail
19:12.46robotuschI'm bored & I need the quests :<
19:12.50hasteBruners: doesn't really matter that much tho'
19:12.54nevcairielsucks to create a char after classic, doesnt it
19:13.00robotuschoh yeah
19:13.01Fisker-AQ40 > carapace fragments
19:13.09robotuschfukken saved in AQ40
19:13.18Fisker-tell me about it nevcairiel :3
19:13.28Fisker-so there i was
19:13.30robotuschAs I said the other day, I should have stuck with that undead priest I had ages ago
19:13.35Fisker-grinding to exalted with silvermoon on my rogue
19:13.46Fisker-then rogues suck
19:13.47robotuschbut sadly I fell for the "the grass is greener on the other side" thing
19:13.50Fisker-and i reroll paladin
19:13.57Fisker-after getting exalted with silvermoon city :E
19:14.11Fisker-last act of my rogue: buy silvermoon mount + transfer moneys and bags
19:14.28robotuschdidn't you die in IF after that?
19:14.35Brunershaste: no? why am i getting errors while its named oglow.lua then and not when its named glow.lua ? :P
19:14.38robotuschor rather, suicide in IF?
19:14.51Fisker-something like that
19:14.57hasteBruners: becaues there is a proper tag, and there won't be any changes to the master branch in quite a while
19:15.16nevcairielhaste is teh lazy
19:15.26nevcairielbut who can blame him
19:15.26nevcairiel:P
19:15.50hasteI'm sitting on a 700MHz laptop, not like I care if I break something on a git head now :p
19:16.06nevcairieldid you break your other computer?
19:16.19hasteGPU fried itself today
19:16.24nevcairiel:(
19:16.33hasteso now my computer is just a headless media server :p
19:16.34Fisker-i had sex with your computer haste
19:17.01hastesend me 2k NOK so I can buy a new one this month!
19:17.10Fisker-no
19:17.13hasteyes.
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19:17.37Fisker-Yes.
19:18.35hasteactually this month is invalid
19:18.47hasteit would be earliest next month, or the month after
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19:18.58nevcairielWouldnt it be nice to still get it this month?
19:19.03nevcairiellike, next 3 hours?
19:19.06hasteyes, but impossible :p
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19:19.32hasteI don't see any reason to buy a AGP card now
19:19.41nevcairielYou still had an AGP?
19:19.49hastemight as well wait a month and buy a complete system
19:19.49hasteyes
19:19.51nevcairielThats sad, new mobo inc
19:20.34Brunersnew ram as well then maby
19:20.45hastenew everything I think we'll say
19:20.48winkillerI hate this AGP.PCIe switch
19:20.59winkilleralso got a pc here that's dead end
19:21.01Bruners4GiB of DDR2 is about 400NOK atm
19:21.08hastewell!
19:21.13hasteI'll probably buy a i7 system
19:21.24Arrowmasteri need to build an i7 system too
19:21.34nevcairielI'm still waiting for the shrink
19:21.43Arrowmasteri dont think i can wait that long
19:22.02winkilleri7?
19:22.07hasteintel core i7
19:22.09winkillerI don't even know that term :P
19:22.22hastenew CPU arch from november
19:22.23winkillerhugs his trusty and cheap e6850
19:22.24nevcairiel2 + 1 = i7
19:22.40hastewinkiller: intel has been increasing the price on those system
19:22.48winkillerwas cheap when I bought it
19:22.52Arrowmasteris there a timeline on the die shrink?
19:22.53Fisker-moo: os: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate - (6.1.7000) up: 1wk 1day 6hrs 22mins 44secs cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz 1 processor(s) at 2667MHz (3% Load) gfx: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 1.00GB res: 1680x1050 32bit 59Hz ram: 4676/6134.2MB (76.22%) [||||||||--] hdd: C:\ 213.29GB/279.46GB D:\ 1.61TB/1.82TB F:\ 92.97GB/93.16GB net: Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller - 100MB/s 19.62GB In 6.6
19:22.59Fisker-why so awesome Fisker-?
19:23.03Fisker-idk my bff ckknight ?
19:23.08hasteand the i7 920 has better performance than the best quod core so :p
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19:23.12hastethe price is better also
19:23.44ArrowmasterFisker-: D:\ a raid?
19:24.02Fisker-no it's a 2TB drive!
19:24.11Fisker-but yeah it's a raid
19:24.25Megalon2 2tb drives
19:25.23Fisker-giant FU for CC btw
19:25.27Fisker-it uses 15-20% CPU
19:26.22Brunersuses nothing here
19:26.38HjalteFisker-: I only see it spike that high when updating addons :)
19:27.18Fisker-still haste's fault though
19:27.23Groktarsays 0% in taskmanager for me
19:28.16Fisker-murders haste
19:28.42Groktarhears fisker uses click to move
19:28.47hasteStill alive.
19:31.23Pneumatusidles at 0% here, using about 7Mb RAM
19:32.16Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r38 questsTooltip.lua:
19:32.19Repoadd an expand all / collapse all button on the title of the tooltip. (ticket 14)
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19:34.31zoktaranyone know how to get bars to hide/show on mouseover in newly revived Infinibars?.
19:34.54Repo10libunitid-1-0: 03taleden * r14 / (3 files in 2 directories):
19:34.57Repo- due to changes in the arguments given to callback functions, this revision is NOT backwards compatible with 1.0.13-alpha
19:35.00Repo- callbacks are now given their arguments in the order event,delta for better consitency with conventional callback signatures (previously was the reverse order)
19:35.03Repo- UnitID (string) keys of the delta table no longer hold the corresponding new GUID; instead, their value is now always the boolean true
19:35.07Repo- events received during a callback phase will be queued and processed when the current batch of callbacks is complete; although it is probably not currently possible for a callback's code to trigger any of the events that LibUnitID listens for, this situation should now work correctly should it arise
19:41.01sylvanaarok someone tell me the rules for libstub and cbh wrt optdep, xembeds so i can fix my mod
19:41.27nevcairielIf you use Ace3, only optdep it
19:41.27Arrowmasterthere are no optdeps or x-embeds
19:41.33nevcairielit includes LS and CBH
19:41.45nevcairielactually, any standalone library should include them if it needs them
19:41.45ArrowmasterX-Embeds is dead, nobody should use it at all anymore
19:42.02nevcairieland yeah, x-embeds is not used by anythign anymore
19:42.03sylvanaarwhy not, it still tells you in-game what libraries the addon uses
19:42.09sylvanaarso stop saying that
19:42.22nevcairielyou can set whatever X- you want
19:42.24Arrowmasterexcept most people never even kept it updated correctly
19:42.31sylvanaaryeah, but at least it was close
19:42.31nevcairielbut its not needed to update
19:42.37sylvanaaranyways
19:42.42Arrowmasternothing uses it now though
19:42.46taledenI thought libraries shouldn't package libstub, because any addon who wants to use the library will have to have libstub anyway in order to get the library instance
19:43.02Pneumatusx-embeds only shows you in-game what is embedded for stuff line ace2's /<slash> about
19:43.15Pneumatus*like
19:43.16nevcairieltaleden: a stand alone version should include them
19:43.23taledenoh, missed "standalone"
19:43.26taledenright :)
19:43.35Arrowmasteri external libstub in my libraries
19:43.43nevcairielyou dont have libraries
19:43.49Arrowmasterdo too
19:44.10sylvanaarexcept there is a standalone LibStub still isnt there?
19:44.15nevcairielthere is
19:44.20nevcairieland CC will install it too
19:44.29nevcairielwe cant stop it from doing that
19:44.32Arrowmasterexcept the libraries wont load it since they dont optdep it
19:44.35Pneumatushow about CBH?
19:44.39nevcairielCBH too
19:44.48sylvanaaris that still in ace3?
19:44.50nevcairielthe page looks at the externals
19:44.56nevcairielCBH has its own project now
19:44.58nevcairielanyway
19:45.11nevcairielthe page looks at the externals, and generates a list of libraries to install for the CC
19:45.20nevcairielLS and CBH are no "special" cases for that code
19:46.07sylvanaarsomething has changed
19:46.10taledenso any addon or standalone lib should optdep ls and cbh, in case they were installed standalone too?
19:46.15Arrowmasterno
19:46.18nevcairielnah
19:46.21taledenk
19:46.24Arrowmasternothing optdeps libstub or callbackhandler
19:46.42sylvanaarbut if they did, those would load and it'd work
19:46.49nevcairielof course
19:46.57Arrowmasterlibraries shouldnt have nolib versions in the first place
19:47.04Arrowmasterbut the packager still makes them
19:47.16nevcairielit doesnt, if there are no externals set
19:47.28sylvanaarugh
19:47.30Groktarwhy does recount not want to record data when solo sometimes?
19:47.31Groktarhrm
19:47.32Arrowmasterdoes for mine because it has externals
19:47.37Pneumatuswhat about libraries that depend on other libraries?
19:47.44Pneumatuslike ackis's about page thing
19:47.46nevcairielPneumatus: those need to die
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19:47.50ArrowmasterPneumatus: those dont exist anymore
19:48.13nevcairielhow does a lib use an about page?
19:48.38Pneumatus@project libaboutpanel
19:48.39RepoPneumatus: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/libaboutpanel/. LibAboutPanel. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Tekkub (Author). Updated: 12 days ago
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19:49.22sylvanaarhow does a lib use anything it does
19:50.50Fisker-slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout
19:50.51Pneumatusinfact that might have been changed around in the last week or so to make it standalone
19:51.02nevcairieli've never seen it use anything
19:51.30Pneumatussomething acks was using had libs inside libs, im sure
19:51.35Pneumatus*sigh*
19:51.37nevcairielmeh its Ackis
19:51.39nevcairiel:P
19:51.40sylvanaarexternals = .pkgmeta
19:51.55sylvanaartranslating terms
19:52.08nevcairielthere is an externals config field in .pkgmeta, yes
19:52.23sylvanaari still use svn
19:52.27sylvanaarso
19:52.37nevcairielsvn externals will be ignored by the packager
19:52.50nevcairielit only uses the .pkgmeta
19:56.03Repo10pass-loot: 03Odlaw * r73 / (14 files in 2 directories):
19:56.06RepoAttempting to support new localization method.  Moved locales to their own directory.
19:56.32sylvanaarso what i have no .pkgmeta
19:56.41Arrowmasterwhy?
19:56.45sylvanaarwhy would i need it
19:56.56Pneumatusto get the packager to package libs
19:56.58Arrowmasteryou should atleast specifiy package-as
19:57.09nevcairielisnt there still a package-as field on the website?
19:57.13sylvanaari did that on the web age
19:57.25Arrowmasteryes there is but i dislike it
19:57.40nevcairielwell if you don't need any externals to be packaged, you don't need a .pkgmeta
19:57.51nevcairielor folders moved
19:57.53nevcairieletc
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20:05.55OdlawHrm, when I imported my localizations, i had a few with \n's, that wowace seems to have detected ok, but when it does the repository keyword substitution, it turned the whole thing into a comment   test\nblah    turned into 2 lines  [=[test<NEWLINE>blah]=]
20:06.21nevcairielOdlaw: so?
20:06.24nevcairiell2lua
20:06.32sylvanaarok, so that leaves hard embedding, or optdeps for libraries
20:06.45nevcairielOdlaw: its not a comment, its a multi-line string literal
20:06.46Odlawhrm... guess my editor thinks it's a comment.. mebe it's not..
20:06.54Odlawok thx
20:06.55sylvanaarthat use libstub or cbh
20:07.12Arrowmastersylvanaar: or just delete the nolib zips
20:07.31sylvanaarwell, im trying to be pragmatic
20:07.42Arrowmasteror bug ckk until we can disable nolib generation or something
20:07.42nevcairielI must've missed whats your goal today
20:07.45nevcairielwhat are you trying to do?
20:07.51sylvanaaroptdeps seems like it will solve both cases
20:07.59sylvanaarone of my libs has a pkgmeta
20:08.48Pneumatuslibs are supposed to hard-embed LS/CBH anyway arent they?
20:08.50sylvanaarbasically i have gathered from what you have said .pkgmeta = broken standalones
20:09.20Arrowmasteri have never supported hard embedded, always hated the idea
20:09.22sylvanaarso , i can hard embed into my lib, or optdep
20:09.25nevcairielIf you don't optdep and use externals, then no-lib will break
20:09.48nevcairielBut i would always prefer hard embeding into libraries, a lib should not have dependancys itself
20:09.57Arrowmasterbut like i said, libraries using only libstub and callbackhandler shouldnt even have nolibs in the first place, so its a curse issue
20:10.21nevcairielyou shouldnt use externals :p
20:10.26sylvanaaryeah, but realistically - once you have a standalone LibStub, theres no point in embedding it
20:10.39Arrowmasteri do not support the idea of putting other peoples code into my repo
20:10.47Arrowmasterit belongs in their repo
20:10.56sylvanaari agree
20:11.19nevcairieldo what you want, thats they way its supposed to be used, everything else .. go nuts on your own
20:11.29nevcairielwe wont stop or yell at you
20:11.35nevcairieljust dont expect it to be "fixed"
20:13.06sylvanaarok - well since there are standalones now of both - its not an issue
20:16.31sylvanaari dont use standalones anymore, maybe i'll try em out
20:16.45jnwhitehis the author of RepairBroker here?
20:16.51nevcairielthe CC is pretty nice with standalones now
20:16.53nevcairielthe latest beta
20:17.03sylvanaaryeah, thats why i wasnt using them
20:18.02Repo10libalts: 03sylvanaar * r9 LibAlts-1.0.toc: add optdeps for standalone version
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20:20.09Pneumatuswhat happens if a user installs an addon nolibs that doesnt use LS/CBH but uses libalts though?
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20:20.33sylvanaaridunno
20:20.36nevcairielCC will install LS/CBH for libalts
20:20.42Pneumatusfrom optdeps?
20:20.44sylvanaarthats up to CC
20:20.56nevcairielWell i assume he has them as externals in .pkgmeta
20:20.58nevcairielthen it will
20:21.00Arrowmastersylvanaar: fyi, renaming your libs slug
20:21.37sylvanaarmkay
20:21.37Arrowmaster@project libalts
20:21.38RepoArrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libalts-1-0/. LibAlts-1.0. Game: WoW. sylvanaar (Manager/Author). Updated: 3 minutes ago
20:21.42jnwhitehnevcairiel: How can I contact an author on WowAce
20:21.55Arrowmasterjnwhiteh: the forums, if they use the forums
20:21.59nevcairielcry at ckk to build something
20:22.01jnwhiteh=/
20:22.06nevcairielor PM on the forums, or PM on curse.com
20:22.06Arrowmasterive been bitching about that for a while
20:22.09AeyanEither find them in here or PM them on the forums
20:22.13jnwhitehnot being able to view source via the web is annoying enough
20:22.19sylvanaaryeah
20:22.24ckknightArrowmaster: did you file a ticket about it?
20:22.29Fisker-haha
20:22.29Arrowmasterthey wont see that they have forum pms until they actually goto the forums
20:22.31Fisker-giant sewer rat
20:22.32nevcairielyeah Kaelten|away is still falling short for providing that
20:22.43nevcairielat least Curse PMs send you a mail
20:22.46Arrowmasteri thought there was one, since i wasnt the first to bitch
20:22.48nevcairielforum email sending is broken :/
20:23.02jnwhitehwell anyone know sonomus?
20:23.06jnwhitehis he on IRC at all?
20:23.13AeyanDon't think so
20:24.08Arrowmasterso i have this stupid idea of a hack on libstub, i wonder if ill get bitched at if i can pull this off
20:24.10ckknighthmm, it might be a good idea to allow any author (i.e. on >0 projcts) to see emails of people. Or would that be bad?
20:24.12nevcairieljnwhiteh: his .toc has his email
20:24.30ckknightArrowmaster: shoot?
20:24.39nevcairieljnwhiteh: except that its typo'ed lol, should be web not wet :P
20:25.02Arrowmasterckknight: its a code change, not going to say anything until im sure its possible and not just a stupid idea
20:25.09ckknightk
20:25.18jnwhitehnevcairiel: thanks.
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20:26.05nevcairielckknight: personally i don't care, since i have the mail on my addons anyway, but i can see some people caring
20:26.13nevcairielprivacy etc
20:26.25ckknightnevcairiel: well, if it's only other authors seeing it, then it's not like it's visible to the masses or spiders
20:26.31nevcairieli know
20:26.32nevcairielbut still
20:26.33nevcairielshrug
20:26.38nevcairielsome people are paranoid
20:27.13Arrowmasterlets see, first thing i need to do is hack libstub to use libstub:newlibrary() when upgrading itself....
20:27.55nevcairielyou should outline your goal first or we'll never ever consider it .P
20:28.16ckknightgoal: conquer the world
20:28.23ckknightactually that's not a goal of mine
20:28.25ckknighttoo much stress
20:28.39Arrowmasterok fine ill tell
20:28.42nevcairielgoal: earn enough money to pay someone conquer the wolrd for me
20:30.14Arrowmasteradd another table thats returned with newlibrary but not otherwise made accessible publicly, and route it so getlibrary returns a proxy userdata so the libraries public table contents cannot be publicly changed anywhere except newlibrary
20:30.50ckknightick
20:30.53ckknightI would not want to use that
20:30.59ckknightthere are speed losses in that system
20:31.01Repo10libalts-1-0: 03sylvanaar 041.0b1 * r10 : Tagging as 1.0b1
20:31.06nevcairielI don't see how that is useful
20:31.47nevcairielIf i want to hack some stuff into a lib i can still :newLibrary it and apply my hacks
20:32.06ckknightI suppose it would prevent people from trying to alter the base library object, but I don't see why that's a good case to prevent
20:32.08Arrowmasterckknight: it would just be a newproxy({__index=lib,__metatable="Access denied"}) dont see what kinda speed lose that would have
20:32.16Repo10buttonfacade: 03StormFX * r219 / (4 files in 2 directories): - Clean up, etc.
20:32.26ckknightArrowmaster: there still would be one
20:32.29nevcairielmetatables are slow
20:32.40ckknightnot _too_ slow, but slower than not having anything
20:32.52ckknightI think this is a solution looking for a problem
20:33.19Arrowmastermaybe
20:33.20nevcairielIf someone wants to be destructive, its easy enough to work around that problem
20:33.34taledenthat sounds like what I currently have libunitid doing with its callback table, so screwy addons can't muck it up for other addons using the lib
20:33.38taledenand I was starting to wonder if it was worthwhile
20:33.56ckknighttaleden: why not just use an upvalue?
20:33.58nevcairielOnly safe space you have is your own locals
20:34.03ckknighttaleden: and not store it on the table itself
20:34.04nevcairielas in upvalues
20:34.14nevcairielof course upvalues are tricky with libraries that auto-update
20:34.19nevcairielsince the new version cannot retrieve it
20:34.25taledenckk: not following what you mean, in my context
20:34.33taledenthe table in question is given to callback functions to tell them what happened
20:34.39ckknightoh
20:34.40ckknightokay
20:34.43taledenso they have to be given it somehow, its just that right now i give them a dummy wrapper that metatables the real one
20:34.45taledenso they can't change it
20:34.48ckknightnvm then
20:35.01Repo10libfail-1-0: 03sylvanaar * r37 LibFail-1.0.toc: optdeps for cbh
20:35.22taledenmaybe i should test the overhead of getting table values via __index vs directly
20:35.54nevcairielits about three times as slow, since you have two more table lookups (lookup metatable, lookup table for __index)
20:36.03taledenhrm
20:36.52sylvanaarexcept at the same time Lua is adding more metamethods
20:39.45sylvanaari wonder - did the cost of metatables change since you last measured?
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20:58.36Repo10macro-bank: 03Odlaw * r24 / (6 files in 1 directory):
20:58.39RepoAttempt to use new localization system.  Moved locale files to their own directory.
21:03.58Repo10macro-bank: 03Odlaw * r25 Locales (9 files in 1 directory): It would be useful to add the files to the repository.
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21:14.35RaydenUnihow much spellpower should a druid have to heal heroics?
21:18.17AeyanEh, 1400 would do you
21:18.22AeyanProbably could do it with less
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21:19.07Brunerswasnt it 1400 in TBC?
21:19.29Brunersor maby that was +healing
21:19.36AeyanProbably
21:19.44AeyanI was shadow back then, so I never really payed attention.
21:19.57Pneumatusyeh, 1400 +heal TBC, 1400 spellpower now
21:20.09Pneumatuswhich is equivalent to like 2600 old +heal
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21:20.21Aeyanpaid
21:20.28AeyanYeah, something like that
21:20.30Brunersi just remember hitting 2k + healing on my paladin
21:20.50AeyanAnyway, 1400 should be fine
21:21.06AeyanIf you're pretty good or the group/tank is, you could probably do with less.
21:23.10AeyanHeroics are quite easier than they used to be =P
21:23.27AeyanAt least it seems that way
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21:36.03RaydenUni1243 no gems, no enchants
21:37.46cncfanaticsoh dear god , can't find anyone for normal modes :/
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21:45.50AeyanMeh, gear up with Icecrown, Storm Peaks, and rep gear and hit the heroics =P
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22:01.56Repo10broker-itemlist: 03Morgalm * r2 / (4 files in 1 directory): Broker_Itemlist
22:01.59Repo-initial commit
22:04.13RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/enhanced-trade-skill-ui/. EnhancedTradeSkillUI. kunda (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
22:05.01RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/statsreport/. Stats Report. gamedouble (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
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22:06.24Repo10broker-itemlist: 03Morgalm * r3 .pkgmeta: Broker_Itemlist
22:06.27Repo-oops don't package me as channelwatch lol
22:07.35Repo10broker-itemlist: 03Morgalm 04v1.0 * r4 : Tagging as v1.0
22:08.33ckknightSFW: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1233436968373.jpg
22:10.46Industrialthats from an anime
22:10.49Industrial*fetchfetch*
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22:14.50Industrialhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkgUmaNKFsM
22:14.54Industrialckknight: ^
22:15.03Industrialwins on sauce
22:15.50ckknightI've seen similar other places, too
22:15.51nevcairielthats a cat
22:16.12ckknightone of David Firth's videos has a woman using a cat as a machine gun
22:16.50Industrialyes, yes it is :p
22:16.50ckknighthttp://img.4chan.org/b/src/1233436087038.jpg
22:16.50Arrowmasteryay got new kara no kyoukai finally
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22:17.01Industrialckknight: thats not hard
22:17.54Arrowmasterthe shadows give it away
22:18.51Industrialit doesnt scale! (???)
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22:26.17RaydenUnistupid anub'arak
22:26.25RaydenUnirandomlyl turned around and pounded by dps cats
22:26.29RaydenUnione shotted both of us
22:28.35RaydenUnihave you seen laser cats ckknight ?
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22:43.41ckknightprobably, RaydenUni
22:45.32Pneumatuswhat's the difference between using AceOptions and AceConsole to register slash commands?
22:45.57Pneumatus*aceconfig sorry
22:47.57Zhinjioquestion
22:48.01ckknightanswer
22:48.11Zhinjiothinks about how to phrase this...
22:48.50ZhinjioI want to put begin-end blocks in the code, purely for aesthetic/organizational purposes.
22:48.54Zhinjiois there any downside?
22:48.55sylvanaarwho wants to fix bugsack-nolib it uses acelibrary
22:48.58Zhinjio(scope concerns aside)
22:49.48RaydenUnimy guild is telling me i shouldn't buy the T7 emblem pieces
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22:52.43Repo10liboop: 03taleden * r12 / (7 files in 2 directories): 1.0.0
22:52.53Zhinjiostill have an answer ck?
22:54.38nevcairielwell every block has to create a new variable scope, so it might have some small performance hit, but nothing that would matter
22:55.02onaforeignshoresylvanaar: get a replacement for Dewdrop and I'm sure they'll get rid of the AceLibrary requirement
22:55.40sylvanaari dont care about it personally
22:55.42Zhinjionevcairiel: lemme give you an example so this actually makes sense...
22:56.16Zhinjiohttp://paste.wowace.com/233/
22:56.34Zhinjioclearly the setscripts and stuff don't need to be in their own block
22:56.39sylvanaarit just makes me load the whole ace2, or edit files
22:56.55Zhinjiobut it *does* let me minimize the block to the single line, and have all the stuff associated with MF_TitleFrame in the same block
22:57.14Repo10liboop: 03taleden 041.0.0-beta * r13 : Tagging as 1.0.0-beta
22:57.57onaforeignshorereminds me of json
22:58.20nevcairielwhats with the curly bracers aroudn your code block there?
22:58.32Zhinjiothats what I'm talking about
22:58.41Zhinjioits just an "artificial" block
22:59.00nevcairielblocks dont work like that in lua
22:59.08Zhinjiohrm
22:59.15nevcairieldo ... end
22:59.19Zhinjiook
22:59.28Shirik|AFKsure they do nevcairiel!
22:59.29Zhinjiowell, lets assume for the moment that it was syntactically correct
22:59.31Shirik|AFKI do that all the time
22:59.40Zhinjiomy editor thinks its ok
22:59.42Zhinjiobut whatever
22:59.48Shirik|AFKclass "Foo" {
22:59.49Shirik|AFKvars
22:59.49Shirik|AFK}
22:59.53Shirik|AFK^ Valid lua syntax!
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23:00.10Shirik|AFKthough nevcairiel is right, Zhinjio, you can't do that for what you want to do :P
23:00.16onaforeignshoregrabs the popcorn to watch the showdown...
23:00.18nevcairielyou use it as a table contrusctor
23:00.20nevcairielso shush!
23:00.22Shirik|AFK:P
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23:00.47Zhinjioright, so replace { with do, and } with end
23:00.55Shirik|AFKaffirmative
23:00.56Zhinjiogiven that change is there any downside?
23:01.07nevcairielis there a benefti? i dont see it
23:01.15Zhinjioorganizational only
23:01.29Zhinjioin notepad++ it lets me minimize the whole block to a single line
23:01.30nevcairieli just add a newline to build a new block :P
23:01.49Zhinjioorganizational/aesthetic
23:02.29nevcairielIf you have trouble organizing your function, split it in more then one :)
23:06.26sylvanaarShirik|AFK could you make that Lua code execute?
23:06.36Shirik|AFKSure
23:06.42Shirik|AFKI've already played with something like that
23:06.49Shirik|AFKI wanted to turn it into a library but never found the time
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23:08.40sylvanaarclass "foo" or class {vars}, but those are single parameter shorthands
23:09.27nevcairiellua> f = function(a,b) print(a); print(b) end; f "a" {"a"}
23:09.28lua_botnevcairiel: a, nil, luabot:1: attempt to call a nil value
23:09.40nevcairieloh well
23:09.43sylvanaaryou need a metatable on the table
23:10.25nevcairiellua> f = function(a,b) print(tostring(b)) end; f "a" {}
23:10.26lua_botnevcairiel: nil, luabot:1: attempt to call a nil value
23:10.36nevcairielfunny how it outputs the value and the error
23:10.36ShirikYes sylvanaar
23:10.47ShirikBut if 'class "foo"' returns a function
23:10.52sylvanaaryeah, because it does  f "a"
23:11.04Shirikso for example
23:11.12sylvanaarthen does (return of f "a") {}
23:11.14Shiriklua> class = function() return print; end; class "Foo" {}
23:11.14lua_botShirik: table: 0x80a2040
23:11.39sylvanaarlua> f = function(a,b) print(tostring(b)) return f end; f "a" {}
23:11.40lua_botsylvanaar: nil, nil
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23:12.10sylvanaarlua> f = function(b) print(tostring(b)) return f end; f "a" {}
23:12.10lua_botsylvanaar: a, table: 0x80a2040
23:12.42sylvanaarkk
23:13.15nevcairielsomehow reminds me of a decorator
23:13.29sylvanaarits an interesting style
23:13.55sylvanaarlua does decoration well i think via tail calls
23:14.31nevcairieli love python for the native decorator syntax
23:14.38onaforeignshorelua> f = function(b) print(tostring(b)) return f end; f "a"
23:14.39lua_botonaforeignshore: a
23:16.15sylvanaarLua has some problems with syntax variety
23:20.27Repo10little-wigs: 037destiny * r540 / (2 files in 2 directories): koKR Update
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23:25.06Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r214 libraries/includes.xml: added nolibstip
23:25.20Zhinjionolibstip!
23:31.16ckknighthehe
23:31.32sylvanaaryeah, i was saying that teh packager could add the install folders to the toc, that'd be really nice for in-game display
23:32.11sylvanaarthere a way to not hard embed LDB yet?
23:33.51Repo10libbars-1-0: 03dhedbor * r13 LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: Added optional maxValue parameter to barPrototype:SetValue
23:34.11nevcairielsince LDB is hosted on github
23:34.12nevcairielno
23:35.12ckknightnevcairiel: I reference it in PitBull4.
23:35.20sylvanaarhow
23:35.32ckknightlike any library.
23:35.49nevcairielright, packager leaves it in nolib, yes?
23:35.51RaydenUnihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UeCRY1wciA&eurl=http://www.resto4life.com/
23:37.33sylvanaaryeah, i sorta have the same problem with my embedded myGuildAlts sample addon
23:38.10sylvanaarit has libs in it, and i want those libs even in no-libs, because its a sample and doesnt get loaded
23:41.00Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r215 .pkgmeta:
23:41.03Reporemoved utf8 since its not actually used, fix libalts that arrormaster changed
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23:48.34Pneumatusi'm probably being a div here, but i've got an acedb setup with some defaults, but if i try and delete any of the db keys i've got set in the profile they appear to get regenerated. is that intentional?
23:48.55sylvanaarhuh
23:49.15sylvanaaryou mean delete your defaults?
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23:50.17Pneumatussay i've got profile.items[12345] = true; in the defaults, if in my code i set profile.items[12345] = nil it doesn't dissapear
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23:50.40sylvanaaryou have to set them to keep the db. part
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23:51.03sylvanaarim pretty sure
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23:52.11Pneumatusit looks like if i delete the key it will revert back to the default
23:52.18sylvanaarbut who knows if acedb lets you overwrite a non-nil default with nil
23:52.37sylvanaarsince defaults are what you get when the value is nil
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23:52.54sylvanaarset it to false
23:53.38Pneumatusi'm adding more keys to the same table though later in code, so i'd probably need to nil it, then check if it still exists
23:54.07Pneumatusbasically, i've got a list of items i want in the list by default, but the user may want to delete those items from the db
23:54.23sylvanaarhow would you check for its existance that would be different than checking if it was false
23:55.04sylvanaaror put another way - how would storing nil be much different than storing false
23:55.18sylvanaarin a persistant file
23:55.19Pneumatusstoring nil won't cause it to be written to file
23:55.31sylvanaarright, and you need it to
23:55.39sylvanaarotherwise you will get the defaults
23:56.13sylvanaaryou are storing which ones of the defaults the users delete
23:56.31Pneumatusfor adding new items, i'd [id] = true; and for deleting those i'd [id] = nil
23:56.38Pneumatuswhich would mean they would no longer be written to file
23:56.39sylvanaarno
23:56.54sylvanaar[id]=false
23:56.55sylvanaarfixed
23:57.13Pneumatusthat would explode the saved vars file for any item not in defaults though
23:57.22sylvanaarthats how it works
23:57.34sylvanaarany other way would require magic
23:58.28Pneumatusi could db.profile.items[foo] = nil; if db.profile.items[foo] then db.profile.items[foo] = false end; i suppose
23:58.38sylvanaarwhat is stored is the difference between the users data the the defaults
23:58.47sylvanaarhuh
23:59.16sylvanaarwhat are you talking about
23:59.18Pneumatusi don't want [item] = false to be stored on file, it should just be disregarded hence the [item] = nil

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