IRC log for #wowace on 20090129

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00:06.33Repo10ihml: 03Ackis * r157 IHML.lua: Fix drycode mistake.
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00:09.11Ackisuhmm ckknight... I'm getting e-mails about projects being marked inactive that were marked inactive back in october...
00:09.31ckknight...gnomes?
00:09.33*** join/#wowace Greltok (i=112b1d43@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dd8faf8989cfdfd2)
00:09.49ckknightand inactive is a new thing
00:09.53ckknightit was stale/out of date before
00:09.54ckknight:P
00:09.56ckknightyea
00:09.59Ackisugh
00:09.59ckknightinactive means nothing, though
00:10.09Ackisthese were deleted projects heh
00:10.17ckknightyou mean abandoned
00:10.26Ackishttp://www.wowace.com/projects/project-14887/
00:10.28Ackisyah
00:11.11Ackis(i don't care about the e-mails, my anus clenches at thinking about the reports/tickets)
00:12.28CamciHow the hell do you move Grid? i know i did it before but i just cant move it now...
00:12.43onaforeignshoreCamci: carefully?
00:12.55Camcisay wha?
00:13.11onaforeignshoreit probably has a "lock" in the settings
00:13.31Camciit has and i have unchecked it
00:14.22Funkeh`Why am I get spammed with mails about addons being innacitve that had commits like 1 day ago
00:15.23CrazyBennyCamci: Alt+click the border
00:16.04Camcino doesnt work
00:17.24CrazyBennybad for you :p
00:17.39Camci:S
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00:19.24GreltokCamci: grab it by the tab at the top?
00:20.24Camcii dont see any tab..
00:20.47GreltokWhat version are you running?
00:21.20Camci1.30000.2008120802
00:21.47Camcii know there is a newer one but after reading the comments abour the resent update i dont feel like updating :p
00:22.07GreltokWhich comments?
00:22.14CrazyBennyit works just fine, and you can actually move it:)
00:22.16GreltokAnd yeah, you won't have the tab in that version.
00:22.45GreltokIf grabbing it by the edge doesn't work, and it's not locked, then I don't know what the issue could be.
00:23.27Camcii dont remember the comments i just remember something were annoying alot of ppl with the latest update
00:23.45GreltokThe main complaint seems to be the aforementioned tab.
00:23.45Ackisping Zhinjio
00:24.01GreltokWhich goes away when you lock the frame.
00:24.11GreltokThe next release will have an option to hide the tab.
00:24.36Ackis@project broker-trade-cooldowns
00:24.38RepoAckis: No project found that matches 'broker-trade-cooldowns'
00:24.51Camciyer im chaking my UI abit so maybe time to update it and see if its that anoying as ppl state ^^
00:24.56Camcichanging*
00:25.49Camciany suggestion or comments are welcome btw :p
00:26.04GreltokAbout?
00:26.13Camcihttp://www.hdimage.org/images/pzt6crd3hz48nx16gre_ocrnhot012809165034.jpg
00:26.29CamciUI :)
00:26.58Camciright now i wanna move Grid down where recount are
00:27.11Camcimove classtimer somewhere i have no idea where
00:32.13Brunersi found that classtimer sometimes uses HUGE ammounts of cpu during raids
00:32.36Brunersmaking my computer freeze for 5 seconds
00:33.32Camciyer
00:33.47Camcitrying to find a replacement but duno... waiting for NECB to get finished
00:34.33Brunersim testing NeedToKnow at the moment
00:34.41Brunerskinda like it better
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00:35.11Camciaha
00:35.17Camcigonna check it out
00:39.57Camcithere is a RBM2 too but havent tried it yet
00:41.01Repo10libunitid: 03taleden * r13 / (2 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 5 lines)
00:41.04Repolibrary core:
00:41.07Repo- party#target and raid#target UnitIDs are now correctly supported
00:41.10Repo- new API method IsUnitIDSupported() to test if a single UnitID is supported
00:41.13Repo- localized an errant global symbol "logActive"
00:43.38ZhinjioAckis: pong
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00:54.17Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic 04v3.0.0 * r536 : Tagging as v3.0.0. Finally!
00:57.37Funkeh`I can't believe they didn't fix this new launcher bullshit in the patch
00:58.30GngskFunkeh`, was fixed for me
00:58.59Funkeh`Gngsk, It no longer copies itself to %temp% and runs itself from there for you?
00:59.18Gngskoh, thought you were talking about something else
00:59.45Funkeh`Well a friend of mine ended up with about 50gb of launchers in he's %temp%
01:00.10Gngski have one dir in %temp% labeled blizzard launcher, it's 3g
01:00.11Funkeh`and a separate firewall mesage each time is quite annoying
01:00.46onaforeign|Zzznight guys
01:00.54ckknightg'night
01:01.01Gngski had issues before yesterday relating to the launcher, the two main images weren't showing up for me
01:01.29Funkeh`Heh, Well I would have thought something as bad as this would have been prioritized over 2 images
01:01.38Funkeh`(which actually worked for me)
01:03.07Funkeh`I have my %temp% on ramdisk so it's removed every time. But hardly anyone does this. I'm just wondering how 11milion people can play the game with this problem and it not go fixed
01:03.27Funkeh`It's only a matter of time until their HD's fill up, will they notice then?
01:06.24Repo10all-played-laotseu: 03LaoTseu * r154 / (2 files in 1 directory): AllPlayed:
01:06.28Repo- No change, just a TOC bump to keep the aggressive WoWAce project removal script happy
01:06.50BrunersFunkeh`: my whole %temp% is 1gib
01:07.47Funkeh`That's pretty big
01:08.03Brunerswhy is that big? :P
01:08.17Funkeh`Mine is <20mb
01:08.23Brunersuptime 169:23:05
01:08.58Bruners~ one week
01:10.54Funkeh`wtf, something just happened in my vista, now all files and folders are separated "application" "file" "folder" Oo
01:11.42Zaogrouping ftw.
01:12.09MikkBruners: ClassTimer? You sure? I run that too with no problems.
01:12.16Funkeh`How do I turn that off?
01:12.23ZaoRightclick, group by
01:12.27Funkeh`I can't understadn how it turned on
01:12.27BrunersMikk: only addon i disabled and the problem was gone
01:12.36MikkEmbedded libs?
01:12.41Funkeh`thanks
01:12.44Ackisalert: I HAVE NO PANTS ON
01:12.50ZaoExplorer works in mysterious ways. Some include randomly permuting and forgetting your settings.
01:12.53BrunersMikk: yes and no, got ace3 disembedded
01:12.55Mikkalert: ACKIS CHECKED IN DRYCODED CODE
01:13.00Ackiswot?!?!
01:13.04ckknightCALL THE WHAMBULANCE!
01:13.08Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * dce9b60 Modules/Aura (5 files in 1 directory): [+14 commits] (10 truncated)
01:13.09AckisWHAAAAAAAAAAAAA
01:13.12Repodce9b60: Merge branch 'resized_auras'
01:13.15Repod74480e: Treat temporary weapon enchants as belonging to the player since we have
01:13.18Repob026ce8: Avoid repeated table lookups on the set_direction_point dispatch table.
01:13.20MikkBruners: Out of interest: which class?
01:13.20Repo1262657: Add support for smaller rows laying next to a partial larger row.
01:13.26BrunersMikk: death knight
01:13.34MikkMkay, I don't have one of those.
01:14.14MikkAll I'm saying is "C" is fairly early in the alphabet.
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01:14.40MikkThough chances are you have other addons with plenty of embeds loading earlier, I guess.
01:15.25MikkI just find it weird, because ClassTimer doesn't really.... do much
01:15.53Gnarfoz~seen zeksie
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01:16.11Brunersbartender, bankstack would be the only ones before classtimer
01:16.19Gnarfozwow :O
01:16.21Gnarfozhe's here!
01:16.32BrunersMikk: my GM, also a death knight reported the same issues with freezing
01:16.47BrunersMikk: also high cpu usage at times
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01:17.44MikkFunnily enough, the DK buff list is like the simplest of them all
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01:20.14BrunersMikk: my guess is that it gets screwed when we spread our diseases on huge packs
01:20.46Brunersbut it froze mostly after such packs
01:21.09MikkThat.... could make sense
01:21.25Mikkis reading classtimer code
01:23.19Tem|afksigh
01:23.31Tem|afkfirst time I want to go to wowace.com in months and it's down
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01:25.48MikkBruners: hm, no, not really making sense either... it only tracks stuff seen via UNIT_AURA
01:26.13MikkAnd UNIT_AURA is bucketed to 0.25s
01:26.48MikkGranted I don't know all the fine points of ClassTimer, but, like i said, it all does seem a bit "wtf?" to me
01:27.14MikkMuch like some people get lag spikes with oRA after fights and most don't.
01:28.36Funkeh`It's not totally down
01:28.40Funkeh`just in the process of deing
01:28.47Funkeh`dieing
01:28.57BrunersMikk: disabling it fixed the freezing, thats all i can say :)
01:29.07BrunersMikk: and i did try to enable it later
01:29.23MikkI'm half willing to start pointing fingers at the frame layout engine
01:30.12MikkDid you ever try statting it over freezes to see what addon was blamed for the load?
01:30.27BrunersMikk: nope
01:30.33Mikk(Just tell me to shove it if you're not interested.. I'm only doing this out of curiosity)
01:30.55BrunersMikk: if you tell me how i would record that, i will try on our next raid
01:30.57MikkHmmm where did that funky CPU metering addon go...  that kept track of spikes in history
01:31.10MikkWTBs photographic memory
01:31.19Arrowmasterexpo?
01:31.44Mikkmmmm no doesn't sound quite right
01:31.49Mikkthough i never looked at exop
01:33.29Funkeh`at yor service
01:33.36NeoTronexpo is a namespace profiling addon
01:33.42Brunersis there an achivement on zul gurub bijou's ?
01:34.01Funkeh`Yes, gotta catch em all
01:34.52MikkBruners: if you count getting exalted with the trolls
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01:35.08Funkeh`oh god
01:35.09Funkeh`memories
01:35.10BrunersMikk: cba with that :P
01:35.12Funkeh`noez
01:35.31Funkeh`man I miss vanilla days
01:35.51Brunersi dont
01:36.07Funkeh`they were the best
01:36.18Brunersmostly due to me starting a year after everyone else and being a total noob
01:36.28Funkeh`lol
01:37.04MikkDid I smoke something or was there a Broker category on WoWI?
01:37.11Brunersthere is
01:37.20Mikkah, found it
01:37.31Brunershttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=109
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01:37.44Brunersif they could get that on curse..
01:38.03Zhinjio*cough*
01:38.14Funkeh`Is this question marks for anyone else
01:38.15Funkeh`http://www.wowace.com/projects/big-wigs/pages/main-zh-cn/
01:38.22Funkeh`or is my encoding fucked in fx
01:38.27Brunersyes
01:38.33Shefki? here
01:39.00Funkeh`K I'll put it back to english
01:39.01Arrowmasteryeah ?s and i have the fonts installed
01:39.14BrunerszhCN stands for ?
01:39.35Funkeh`Chinese
01:39.44Funkeh`TW = Taiwanese
01:39.51Brunerszh then ?
01:39.53Funkeh`or as some people say traditional/simplfied or something
01:40.23Funkeh`zh is sometihng to do with the region
01:40.24MikkBlah, that's not where I found it either
01:40.25Funkeh`can't remember
01:40.31MikkIt was seriously THE addon you want for troubleshooting CPU spikes
01:40.37Mikk(From the description anyway)
01:40.46Mikkgrumbles
01:40.55BrunersMikk: did you test it or only read the description? :P
01:41.05MikkOnly read the description :)
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01:41.43MikkBut it did talk about useful things like being able to point fingers at recent spikes in CPU, not just averaging it out over a long time so it becomes pointless
01:41.55MikkWhich to me suggests cluefulness
01:42.46Mikkcurses the cute kitten on wowace.com
01:43.09Brunersdid they change any bag/vendor stuff ?
01:43.19Brunersmy reagent addon gives me internal bag error
01:43.30MikkDo you have a specialty bag?
01:43.36MikkOr full bags?
01:43.39Brunersnope
01:43.58Mikkthinks
01:44.02Tem|afkah, you're right Funkeh`
01:44.04MikkI got that while hacking on FreeRefills
01:44.04Brunerssame bags and same code as before patch
01:44.12Tem|afkI managed to get it to do the search I wanted
01:44.18Tem|afkafter 10 minutes of 503s
01:44.18MikkIf I only could remember what I did
01:44.24Funkeh`hehe
01:44.30Tem|afkbut trying to click on the item I searched for.... 503
01:44.38MikkBruners: don't tell me it's FreeRefills btw :P
01:44.45BrunersMikk: my own one
01:44.56BrunersMikk: thats just buying corpse dust for me and a ldb plugin :P
01:45.12MikkI have a very vague recollection of trying to cram multiple things in the same slot
01:45.40MikkThough then again I think that was bank related, since it just uses the vendor APIs for vendors
01:46.12MikkAnd if you're just filling up on your corpse dust stack... eh...
01:46.39MikkBruners: oh wait I know now. There's another way to trigger it.. Trying to buy too many (>max stack size) will give you Internal Bag Error too
01:46.55ausmarackknight, is it possible to merge Vangual's totem module and the latest revision of Pitbull Manually, or does he need to take care of that ?
01:47.04BrunersMikk: only set it to buy 40
01:47.10BrunersMikk: http://amnith.pastey.net/107198 if you want to look at it
01:47.14ckknightsyeren: if you know how to use git, it's pretty easy
01:47.23MikkBruners: max stack is 20
01:47.32syerenI don't unfortunately, I'll wait until I see him online next to make a merge I guess.
01:47.44syerenI wish he would hurry up and 'clean' it up or whatever you asked him to do :<
01:48.43BrunersMikk: hmm, set it to 20 and it worked :)
01:49.09MikkJust use FreeRefills, it's teh sex now :P
01:49.21Mikkhaxd on it!!11
01:50.35Bruners"OMG!! THIS SUCKS!! i tried and tried, then when i got to the merchand, it bought for 20g of milk!! OMG OMG!!"
01:50.45Bruners^^
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01:53.31MikkYeah, now calculate how many bag slots you need free for milk to even cost that much
01:53.50Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r4929 Core.lua: BigWigs: Core: Add module active check for boss deaths.
01:54.06BrunersWhitetooth: wtb explanation for invalid ticket :(
01:54.30Whitetooth<PROTECTED>
01:55.39break19zomg! whitetooth!
01:55.54break19didn't think he even knew how to use IRC! :p
01:56.06Whitetooth:p
01:56.40Repo10free-refills: 03mikk * r82 embeds.xml:
01:56.43RepoFreeRefills: Er, nice, seems I screwed up the LibBagUtils embed. Fixd.
01:57.09MikkWhitetooth: whoo! you're here!
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01:57.51ZhinjioWhitetooth: thanks for rb/tankpoints. been using them for a long time.
01:58.18WhitetoothI'm usually here when I'm coding stuff :p
01:58.54MikkAh, you responded to the mp5 from replenishment thingy finally
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02:04.47BrunersWhitetooth: thank you
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02:06.06BrunersWhitetooth: is there a way to show attack power behind armor? for the talent Bladed Armor
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02:08.58Repo10free-refills: 03mikk 042.3.beta-r82 * r83 : Tagging as 2.3.beta-r82
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02:12.27Repo10free-refills: 03mikk * r84 FreeRefills.toc:
02:12.30RepoFreeRefills: Meh, check in toc with proper keyword expansion too
02:12.56Repo10free-refills: 03mikk 042.3.beta-r84 * r85 : Tagging as 2.3.beta-r84
02:25.32fewynhmmm is there a wait style command i can use in bash scripts?
02:25.55Arrowmastersleep
02:27.12fewynyay
02:27.12fewynty
02:28.13quiescenssleeps.
02:33.13MikkBruners: Gah, no I just can't find that addon again. Damnit.  (Of course I was thinking "oh this rocks, I'll definitely remember the name")
02:34.00Brunerscurseclient spasses out on tellmewhen :(
02:35.20quiescensis that a technical term
02:35.40GngskMikk, they created bookmarks for a reason!
02:36.00MikkGngsk: NOT HELPFUL!
02:36.01quiescensits okay, you'll remember the name
02:36.02Mikk:P
02:36.08Gngskfor next time
02:36.35quiescensbut then you have to remember to make a bookmark *and* use the bookmark
02:36.38quiescensthat's two things to remember
02:36.41quiescens):
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02:42.03Brunersdamn, took my eyes away from the elder in orgrimmar for one minute and an alliance sneaks in!
02:42.28quiescenskill tehm
02:42.35Repo10vendorsearch: 03adriweb * r43 / (2 files in 1 directory): Update to 1.95
02:43.48Brunersi did, and now im getting flamed in whispers
02:44.15quiescenskill them all
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02:47.34Repo10vendorsearch: 03adriweb 04v1.95 * r44 : Tagging as v1.95
02:49.24sacarascBruners: You missed me sneaking in earlier
02:54.19Brunershaha did him again
02:54.48Brunersthat means he didnt get the elder the first time
02:55.22fewynsigh anyone familiar with stasiscl?
02:58.53sacarascBruners: Evil!
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03:01.26durcynfewyn: yes.
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03:15.12fewyndurcyn: do you use any kind of auto parsing script? I've been using one for some reason it misses the last boss each time
03:15.16fewynand i can't figure out why
03:15.23fewynif i run the command manually it gets it all
03:19.00durcynfewyn: nah, i just run it by hand.
03:19.45fewyni just hate sshing into my server
03:19.51fewynstupid long complicated password
03:20.03durcynuh, heys?
03:20.05durcynkeys*
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03:21.14Mikkpubkey
03:21.15Mikkgogo
03:21.27fewynyes but still
03:21.37fewyni can't tell my moron best friend how to run the command =p
03:21.57Mikkwhy would you need to?
03:22.05Mikkif you can ssh in, you can set up your pubkye
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03:23.51fewynbut it would also involve me teaching the other people who use the server for this to have to know how to use a pubkey and how to run the command
03:24.00waallenI get an unexpected end of archive when opening the latest push of Pitbull4, anyone else?
03:24.03fewynhard enough to tell them how to ftp a zip file
03:24.23Mikkfewyn: by setting up a pubkey, you're not forcing others to use it
03:24.29Mikkthey can still use the password login
03:25.19fewyntrue but they also use this auto parser for parsing logs through stasiscl, i just don't know why it would work from the command line manually but not with the bash script
03:28.53Mikkoink, i've seriously missed something
03:28.55MikkStatis look kewl
03:29.01MikkStasis too
03:29.11fewynyea
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03:38.49waallenIs anyone else getting an unexpected end of archive on this? http://static.wowace.com/uploads/18/327/362/PitBull4-r20090129011240.zip
03:39.13ShefkiUse an info-zip based unpacker.
03:39.41waallenI've been using winrar and it's always worked till now
03:39.56taleden7zip uber alles!
03:40.27ShefkiHmm it's corrupted.
03:41.12Mikkhttp://code.google.com/p/stasiscl/issues/detail?id=89   <- gogo show your support :)
03:45.38Repo10little-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r537 Zul'Drak/Eck_the_Ferocious.lua: ruRU update
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04:05.27RaydenUniran heroic voa
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04:05.35RaydenUniwent in, everything is dead
04:05.37RaydenUninow i'm saved?
04:05.45Wobinshouldn
04:05.49Wobin't be
04:05.49RaydenUnialso, both heroic and non have the same id
04:05.55Wobinthat's crazy
04:05.59Wobinticket it imo
04:06.06RaydenUnithey shouldn't have the same id right?
04:09.36Wobinnot afair
04:10.10RaydenUnihmm
04:10.17RaydenUniwhat's the command to open a ticket
04:10.52MikkClick the red "?" ?
04:11.00RaydenUnii don't have that part of the interface
04:11.07MikkTry /gm
04:11.14MikkThough I think that's something that gets installed by some addon
04:11.16MikkAnd might taint
04:11.19Mikk(Fuzzy recollection)
04:11.24Arrowmasterit is
04:11.29Arrowmasterand i was told it does too
04:12.31RaydenUnigm worked
04:14.29Mikkit's AceConsole-2.0 that installs it
04:14.50Mikkand incidentally also AutoBarConsole-1.0, which is a copy of AceConsole-2.0?
04:14.54Mikkscratches his nose
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04:22.59Repo10free-refills: 03mikk * r86 / (2 files in 1 directory):
04:23.02RepoFreeRefills: Catch empty itemcache.wdb problem (just after patch) and display a helpful hint about re-opening the merchant window.
04:23.38Arrowmasterwtf is AutoBarConsole-1.0???
04:26.29WhitetoothBruners: not now, but its on my todo list
04:27.11MikkArrowmaster: i'd guess it's AceConsole copied in locally to make some modifications needed for AutoBar
04:27.25MikkOn a guess, itemlink parsing for AceConfig
04:27.52Arrowmasteri thought it already had itemlink parsing
04:28.12MikkMeh, I have no idea really, just pulling random ideas out of my arse
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04:28.53quiescensew
04:29.03RaydenUniweird bug
04:29.09RaydenUnimy health bar shows as full
04:29.11RaydenUnii can't die in a duel
04:29.20quiescensI've seen that
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04:29.24quiescensit wasn't just one person either
04:29.29quiescensit was like, everyone in the area
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04:30.27ToadkillerPretty sure AutoBarConsole got deleted last year
04:31.10Toadkillerl2wrangle libs if u claim to be expert enough to run disembedded imo.
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04:41.15pompyRaydenUni: my archavon10/25 saves both have the same raid id
04:41.19pompythis week
04:41.31RaydenUniwere you able to run both?
04:41.35pompyyes
04:42.02pompyran them back to back
04:42.48RaydenUnihmm
04:42.49RaydenUnii did 25
04:42.54RaydenUnithen jumped into a 10 man
04:42.59RaydenUniwas already cleared
04:43.04RaydenUniand i have an ID
04:43.32pompyraid leader maybe already did 10 man?
04:44.08Wobinhm
04:44.10Wobinthat's terrible
04:44.26Wobinif your raid leader can lock you out of one of them cause he's already done the other
04:44.45Repo10magicrunes: 03dhedbor * r34 embeds.xml: Fixed LDB/DBIcon load order.
04:44.50quiescensyeah
04:44.52Shirikpompy.... RaydenUni....
04:44.55ShirikRaid ID
04:44.59quiescensyou can have the same id on multiple raids
04:45.03pompyyeah it happened to 2 of my guildies once, they cleared trash and the boss wasn't at the end
04:45.03ShirikRaid ID is your character ID
04:45.08Shirik(the leaders, that is)
04:45.17RaydenUnioooh
04:45.19RaydenUniinteresting
04:45.32Shirikso if you have the same leader everywhere it will always be the same
04:45.32RaydenUnithat would have been useful when we were trying to place blame
04:45.38RaydenUnithis one had no trash
04:45.45quiescenswell, placing blame would be on whoever was leader
04:45.58pompyShirik: gotch
04:46.00pompya
04:46.13quiescensthat just means the 10man was done fairly recently and it hadn't soft-reset yet
04:46.15RaydenUnithat's what one guy was saying
04:46.17RaydenUnithe leader denied it
04:47.00quiescenswell
04:47.02MikkBut if a saved guy jumps in first
04:47.04quiescenstechnically it could be a bug
04:47.10MikkWon't the leader follow him to the same raid id?
04:47.15pompydoubt blizzard will reset ur save to that either
04:47.15quiescensno
04:47.20quiescensif a saved person jumps in first
04:47.20MikkI.e. doesn't have to be the leaders' fault?
04:47.23quiescensthey'll be in their own one
04:47.30Wobinand not the raid's one
04:47.33quiescensand the leader will go into their own fresh one
04:48.38quiescenswe've had situations where the raid leader isn't saved, most of the raid zones in, and then the leader and a couple other people zone into a fresh run, wondering why they aren't with the others
04:48.47quiescenshave to pass leader to one of the saved people
04:48.53quiescensand have the new people zone out and back
04:49.04MikkToadkiller: it's entirely possible that AutoBarConsole is just rotting in my folder, un-used
04:49.33Mikkhm, no, svn claims it's used
04:49.50Mikkas in under source code control
04:50.39MikkBut, no, it's not being pulled in by the .toc
04:52.24Mikkquiescens: i really wish blizzard would add something along the lines of "By entering this instance, you become locked to it until DD Month. Are you sure? [Yes] [No]."
04:53.48MikkIn my case, it only ever happens in the odd heroic 5man if I randomly decide to pug, so I don't really care hugely myself
04:53.59MikkBut I see how it could really be a pain for people that pug raids
04:54.00ToadkillerMikk: Yeah if u updated at all this year then its not required anymnore.  I switched to aceConfig3
04:54.31quiescenswell
04:54.36MikkToadkiller: Oh, it's very up to date. I just saw the file rotting in the folder when searching for the "/gm" command handler :)
04:54.40quiescenspugging raids would cause a minor problem
04:54.44quiescensbut what
04:55.07quiescens3-6 popup boxes in one week
04:55.12quiescensdoesn't sound that troublesome
04:55.26Mikkyou wouldn't even get it if you entered fresh instances
04:55.36Mikkas you would (correctly) get locked when downing the first boss
04:55.40Mikkand that's not very optional
04:56.04Mikkand neither would you get it for re-entering an instance you're already saved to
04:56.32Mikkso in actuality, most people wouldn't see it at all
04:58.09MikkToadkiller: The point being, it's still there in svn, and being disted in your .zips. Whether or not you care about it is another matter entirely of course.
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04:59.57PrimerAnyone know how to make text in the blizoptions selectable?
05:00.15MikkMake it an editbox
05:00.19PrimerI want to add a bug report URL, but using a "description"
05:00.28Repo10seraphimraidtracker: 03Barret7sc * r11 Core.lua:
05:00.31RepoAdded syncing of points metadata (loot count, offspec count, start points)
05:00.34Primerchecks
05:00.34RepoAdded syncing of current raid members, should help if someone comes into the raid partway through.
05:00.36MikkProbably an editbox without borders
05:00.37RepoAdded ability for someone to whisper a person running the mod with '!priority' to get their priority.
05:00.55MikkThough having the borders there probably help people understand what to select & copy
05:01.09MikkHint: OnFocus: select all text in the box
05:01.19Primerok
05:01.39PrimerI've been trying to search for all the types that are allowed in a bliz conf
05:01.42Brunerswhats up with all people that look like retards sings like retards on idol
05:01.52Primerperhaps they're retards?
05:02.11Brunerssome of them should be able to sing at least
05:03.36Primerit's funny, I learn more about coding addons with grep -ri AddOns than by googling
05:05.48Primeris it literaly type = 'editbox'?
05:08.11Mikkallowed?
05:08.46Mikkdo you mean aceconfig?
05:09.17Primerno, blizoptions
05:09.31Primeroh, yeah
05:09.33Primeraceconfig
05:09.35Mikkblizoptions doesn't have type='editbox' or anything
05:09.40Mikkit just shows a frame
05:09.48Primeryeah, it's ace
05:10.01Mikkthen you just want a standard type='input'
05:10.09Primerlocal ACD3 = LibStub("AceConfigDialog-3.0"); ACD3:AddToBlizOptions
05:10.11Primercool
05:10.23Mikkjust have the get=... function return your url
05:10.29Mikkand the set=... function be false
05:10.41Mikkor a dummy function if set doesnt work.. it dont quite remember
05:10.54Primerok
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05:14.23Primerfucking KVM doesn't work on my main box now, wtf
05:15.03Mikkjesus.. "or a dummy function if FALSE doesn't work... I don't quite remember"
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05:19.40Primerhad to reboot windows
05:19.52Primer"One of your USB devices stopped working"
05:20.02Primercompletely lost mouse and keyboard
05:20.16Mikkhappy happy joy joy
05:20.36PrimerI have like, 10 usb devices plugged into this box :)
05:20.51Primerreboot, and of course, it works again
05:21.01PrimerI really need to re-install windows
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05:21.41Primeranyhow, I made it an input, but the input was not pre-populated
05:21.50Primerthe get is a function that returns the URL
05:25.34Primeroh, there it goes
05:25.41Primerexcept it's not big enough
05:25.44ToadkillerMikk: Oh bizarre.  Wonder how it got deleted locally but not on svn.  Tx, ill use repo browser to nail it.
05:25.50Primerthe entire URL is not visible
05:26.27Primeranyhow, IHML implements some text that, when you hover over it, has a tooltip that tells you to control-click it to copy it into the copy buffer
05:26.28Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r743 AutoBarConsole-1.0.lua: -- Remove obsolete file
05:26.33PrimerI need to figure out how it does it
05:26.36Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r744 AutoBarFuBar.lua: -- Remove obsolete file
05:26.52MikkPrimer: description="Hi, ctrl+c me!"
05:26.59MikkBut that'll show in the default tooltip location
05:27.15Mikkwhich depending on tooltip addon might not be right next to the cursor
05:27.15Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r745 StickyFrames.lua: -- Remove obsolete file
05:27.23BrunersMikk: ok, think i stole all your code :P
05:27.33MikkBruners: hehe =)
05:28.04PrimerMikk: heh, is that the default to copy text?
05:28.14Mikkdepends on OS
05:28.26Primerexcept the text isn't selectable
05:28.33Mikkeh? why would it not be
05:28.34PrimerI meant, how IHML does it
05:28.38Primerit's just text
05:28.42Primerit's not an input
05:28.53Primeryou have IHML? put it up
05:28.56Mikkno i don't
05:29.09Primeratlasloot?
05:29.12Mikkthere WILL be an input somewhere that gets the focus
05:29.13Primerit implements it too
05:29.21Mikkand that selects all text
05:29.23Primeruses LibAboutPanel
05:29.28Primerwhich I was hoping to avoid
05:29.41Xinhuanhello
05:29.43Xinhuanwhats up
05:29.54MikkIt has instructions telling you to hit e.g. ctrl+c now to copy stuff out, yeah?
05:30.00MikkOr ctrl+v to paste stuff in?
05:30.18Primernot ctrl-c, ctrl-click
05:30.22MikkThere WILL be an editbox somewhere containing/receiving text. Whether or not it is of a visible size is another matter.
05:30.24Primererr
05:30.29PrimerMy memory fails me
05:30.37Primerohhhh
05:30.40PrimerI see now
05:30.44Primerit turns into an input
05:31.05PrimerI think I should just implement LibAboutPanel
05:31.13Xinhuanwhats up primer
05:31.24PrimerXinhuan: nothing...just me, floundering again
05:31.26Primeras usual
05:31.31Xinhuanwith?
05:31.39PrimerLibAboutPanel
05:31.56Xinhuanwhat's wrong with it
05:31.58PrimerI want to make the top part of my config tree be the about panel
05:32.06Primernot have an "about" sub-tree
05:32.35Primer(now that I've changed my mind again and want LibAboutPanel instead of just hacking the input myself)
05:32.59Xinhuanwell libabout panel returns you a subtree object isn't it?
05:33.13Xinhuana table, that is
05:33.33Primerit returns a panel, yes
05:33.36Xinhuanyou can just assign that as your root table, and then add your own config to it
05:33.46Mikkcurses crapmobs blocking him at 8.75% expertise
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05:38.53Primerlost again
05:39.03Primerthere's just so many ways of doing this differently
05:39.34PrimerI basically copied Omen's menu
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05:39.59Primerbut I can find no example of how to add a LibAboutPanel to an existing config
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05:43.49PrimerAiiane wants to help me
05:44.10ckknightrelevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91sqAs-_-g
05:44.30Primerwoa, I did it
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05:44.46Primerexcept, there's an extra root node that's empty :/
05:45.24Aiianeahroo o.o
05:45.44PrimerI did it!
05:45.47Primerjumps with joy
05:45.57Primerbah, except it doesn't default to it
05:46.24quiescensno jumping with joy for you~
05:47.08Primereasy fix
05:47.13Primer(crosses fingers)
05:49.26Primerwhat happens if you get a whisper when you're /rl ing?
05:49.53Primerbooyah!
05:49.58quiescensit usually shows up after everything has loaded
05:50.12Primerjust making sure
05:50.29quiescensor well, after enough stuff has loaded that you can see things
05:53.50Primerman, I really need to find someone that I can interact with in real time that has the headless horseman mount, and isn't mentally retarded
05:55.46quiescenssteal someone's account!
05:57.25Primera guildy I know has it
05:57.38Primerbut I would never ask someone to borrow their account
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06:29.16PrimerI wonder if the zone base rates have changed
06:29.34PrimerI notice Arrowmaster's SpeedFu hasn't been updated
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06:36.53Primerbah, the svn code uses GetUnitSpeed()
06:37.59Primeroh, nm
06:38.20Zhinjioevenin'
06:38.27manymorning
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06:41.42Repo10broker-currency: 03Azethoth * r42 core.lua:
06:41.45Repo-- Use LibQTip to do column alignment and individual cell + / - coloring.
06:41.48Repo-- Add setting for displaying gold.  Defaults to nil, needs to be checked to display gold totals in the popup.
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06:42.25ZhinjioToadkiller: oooo, you're cleaning it up! Very cool.
06:43.27Zhinjioanyone know if Kolie managed to push out a new version of CC today?
06:44.08Zhinjioah, looks like it. excellent.
06:45.49ZhinjioToadkiller: ping
06:46.26Fisker-Zhinjio my secret love
06:46.50ZhinjioFisker-: my adoring ingrate
06:46.58Zhinjiosup?
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06:58.18Fisker-isn't hit made to round down?
06:58.31Fisker-Like if i have 7.99% hit then it will actually be like i had 7%?
06:59.51Repo10broker-currency: 03Azethoth * r45 core.lua: -- change summaryGold default to true for new users.
07:00.00ShefkiPretty sure that Blizzard uses 4 or 5 digits of precision.
07:01.34MikkFisker-: There was some theorizing that hit% was rounded down to integer for hunters when transferring to their pets.
07:01.44MikkNoone has ever claimed that it would be the case for players themselves.
07:02.50Groktari wish there was a way to search for an exact name on the auction house
07:02.51Groktarso if i search for "bloodstone" i can get just the uncut ones
07:02.58Groktarand not have to search through 20 pages
07:03.04Fisker-Mikk alright
07:03.04Groktarthink i could modify the browse tab and put like an "exact match" checkbox?
07:03.07Fisker-pretty sure i heard that though
07:03.09ShefkiGroktar: No kidding.
07:03.09Groktari know nothing about the ah api
07:03.19ShefkiGroktar: Or an itemid would be nice.
07:03.39ZhinjioGroktar: there was an addon that did that... I forget the name
07:04.37Groktarhrm
07:04.53Zhinjioit was combined with some other auction filters
07:04.56Groktarah
07:04.58Zhinjiomaybe auctionfilter plus or something
07:05.03Zhinjiodon't remember
07:07.58ToadkillerZhinjio: Check out the new version of Currency and tell me if anything seems wrong?
07:08.13ZhinjioToadkiller: I'll do that. I had one observation for you.
07:08.20ZhinjioI've noticed on the recent patch days...
07:08.24ToadkillerAlso I think you mentioned finding somethng in it last night?
07:08.34Zhinjiowhen the various badges and such aren't cached... they don't show up in the menu options
07:08.51Toadkillerinteresting
07:08.59Zhinjioyeah, on first load, all I can see money
07:09.10Zhinjiowait a bit for things to populate, reload, wham, everything's back and properly selected
07:09.18Zhinjiointeresting, eh?
07:09.23Zhinjioanyway, lemme load the latest...
07:10.00ToadkillerWeird.  Well I use GetItemInfo on mod load.  perhaps I should delay that.
07:10.50Zhinjioin one of my addons, I made a list of the items that weren't cached on first load, and pull them in one a second until they're all in.
07:10.56Zhinjionot sure what would work best for you though
07:11.22ToadkillerWell patches are infrequent...
07:11.31Zhinjioyeah, its not a huge deal
07:13.10Zhinjiothats pretty awesome.
07:13.24ToadkillerYeah I am real happy with it now.
07:13.45Zhinjioone comment: I would add on onenter for the tooltip as well so if you slide the cursor down over the tooltip, it doesn't vanish (when you OnLeave the LDB display)
07:13.53ZhinjioI had the same problem on mine
07:14.16ToadkillerOh yeah good point, I totally forgot about that
07:14.43ZhinjioI would love to be able to sort the tooltip as well
07:14.50ToadkillerI may add Blizz tooltips for the icons at that point too
07:14.51Zhinjioby an arbitrary field
07:15.14Zhinjiosay, sortby gold, or number of cooking tokens, or whatever
07:15.17ToadkillerOh to see who has most of something?
07:15.25Zhinjionods! they'll float to the top
07:15.38Zhinjiosince its all numeric, seems that would be relatively easy
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07:17.04Mikk[2009/01/29 08:15:52-7574-x1]: <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'Chatter' tried to call the protected function 'ChatFrame1BottomButton:Hide()'.
07:17.04Mikk<in C code>: in function `Hide'
07:17.11MikkYEAH THATS REALLY REALLY PROTECTED
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07:18.00MikkEr, whoa, it really is
07:18.16ToadkillerMikk: Yeah that sucks.  Cannot dock AutoBar to the chat frame anymore, it upchucks during combat.
07:18.56MikkMaybe remove chatframes as a docking option then
07:19.24ToadkillerYeah.  Or procrastinate till they give us a fix
07:20.48orionshockwtb svn diff viewer for curseforge/wowace
07:20.51orionshock:)
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07:21.07MikkWell... isn't that intended behavior though?
07:21.34MikkDock something with secure frames in it to chatframe -> chatframe becomes protected
07:21.44Repo10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r158 / (6 files in 1 directory):
07:21.47RepoFix recently introduced horizontal speed issue by borrowing more code from SpeedFu.
07:21.50RepoImplement LibAboutPanel in the config.
07:22.05MikkThen again the button isn't == the chatframe so i do wonder why it's becoming protected
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07:26.04ToadkillerActually its just docking to the tab buttons that is an issue.  I do need to remove those.  They were nonsensical anyway.  Lol, that may actually be back from when Saien wrote the original.
07:31.11Xinhuanerr as long as you don't Setparent
07:31.13Xinhuanits fine
07:31.18Xinhuanuse SetPoint for docking
07:31.46Xinhuanits setting parents that makes the parent protected in combat
07:32.07ToadkillerYeah its just SetPoint.  Actually I assume there is an issue since someone did a ticket.  they may just have used an old version come to think of it.
07:32.34Xinhuani'm not sure if setpoint would also cause upwards protection though
07:33.03ToadkillerHoly cow: http://digg.com/environment/Fraunhofer_claims_world_record_in_solar_cell_efficiency?OTC-widget 41% efficient solar cell!
07:33.14Xinhuani'm half thinking it probably does because otherwise you could move the nonprotected frame to move the protected one
07:33.22Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 8065144 Modules/Aura (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Allow auras not applied by yourself to be removed.
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07:38.13ckknightskinny girls ftw, amirite? http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1233213972678.jpg
07:39.12krkai take it you're dating a fat girl and want to justify it by showing an overly skinny girl
07:39.19Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 04v6.1 * r156 : Tagging as v6.1
07:39.22RepoYay all updated for wrath.. i think :)
07:39.40ckknightkrka: I like girls with a bit of meat
07:39.55ckknightof the three girls I'm dating, one would be considered actually fat
07:40.00ckknightthough none are really skinny
07:40.02krkai like girls who like a bit of my meat
07:42.02Zhinjioorionshock: I think I found another JC daily with a space at the end
07:42.11ZhinjioI'm gonna test more thoroughly and let you know.
07:42.38ckknightprotip: it's seriously hard to date more than one girl at the same time. You gotta keep a journal in order to keep things separate. This one likes cats, this one doesn't
07:42.48ckknightand remembering names is sometimes really hard
07:43.33Megalonjust call them all honey
07:43.41ckknightactually, I call them all "Pretty girl"
07:44.03ckknightit's easier to fit in on the first date, at which point it just sticks
07:44.25Zhinjiooooo, CC died.
07:44.44Zhinjio~fail CC
07:44.45purlCC: FAIL!
07:45.11ckknightZhinjio: just bitch at Kaelten in the morning
07:46.09ckknightand he'll get in a flurry and file jira tickets
07:46.17ckknightand bitch at the CC devs
07:46.25ckknightand they'll be like, "you're not my real dad"
07:46.36ckknight...I know how it goes
07:46.44Zhinjioheh
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07:54.33Mikkckknight: those kinds of images need a "not safe for sanity" tag or something >.<
07:54.41ckknightnene
07:54.43ckknighthehe*
07:54.49ckknightdon't have an undead fetish, then?
07:55.05Mikkno =(
07:55.09Mikkorc porn ftw!
07:55.53Elkanocould someone tell this person to simply set the filter for "Self Cast Buffs" to whitelist? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14697501833&sid=1
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07:59.17Fisker-ckknight my archnemesis
07:59.26Fisker-i just bought a nobles deck >*
07:59.28Fisker-:(
07:59.57Elkanoyou replaced me?  I hate you :(
08:00.07Fisker-i have several :(
08:00.34Fisker-wrroom wroom
08:00.36Fisker-s
08:00.50ShefkiElkano: done
08:02.59robotuschtotals Fisker-
08:03.04Fisker-hey robotusch
08:03.19Fisker-what does your scouter say about my nobles deck level?
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08:03.43Fisker-btw FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
08:03.46Fisker-I have 74 pets
08:03.58Fisker-would've had 75 if it wasn't for blizztard
08:04.00Fisker-:(
08:04.06Shefki?
08:04.08quiescens/pat
08:04.17Fisker-they took my sinister squashling
08:04.23ShefkiWhy?
08:04.26ZhinjioI'm really liking the way my new windows are looking.
08:04.39Zhinjioand without any custom graphics at all.
08:05.03robotuschShefki, he was exploiting
08:05.08Fisker-nah
08:05.11Fisker-I wasn\t
08:05.15robotuschyou were
08:05.16Fisker-wasn't*
08:05.18Fisker-nope
08:05.26quiescenslies
08:05.27robotuschremind me again, why did they ban you then? ;)
08:05.38Fisker-Blizzard were looking to fill their B& quota
08:06.00Fisker-and since they couldn't be bothered to find spambots and bots they went after me and other innoncent people
08:06.01robotuschalso Fusker, Macfag fooled you
08:06.06Fisker-no u
08:06.10ShefkiHow exactly do you exploit getting a squashling?
08:06.21robotuschthat screenshot he linked in HA wasn't his :P
08:06.41robotuschmacro that talks to the innkeeper 720 times in one go
08:06.53Zhinjiogod I hate the way UIParent anchoring works now
08:06.56Zhinjioso broken
08:07.03Elkanothanks Shefki :) it sucks that I can't comment in there with my EU account and I'm not going to pay an US account just for the forums...
08:07.09robotuschso you get 720 treat bags
08:07.17ShefkiElkano: Figured as much.
08:07.31quiescensdoes it work if its 719
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08:08.45Fisker-robotusch lol
08:08.51Fisker-you could get 2 or 3 bags at once
08:08.52Fisker-at best
08:09.18robotuschexageration to prove the point
08:09.24quiescensits not like you could hold 720 anyway!
08:09.42Fisker-Which is the same you could do with the winter veil achievements
08:09.44Fisker-and guess what
08:09.49Fisker-That wasn't exploiting!
08:10.01thulEXPLOITOST
08:10.14quiescenspoints at fisker-
08:10.19Megalonexploits Fisker-
08:11.01thulexpands bodily cavities on Fisker-
08:11.04Fisker-likes
08:21.38robotuschwee
08:21.41robotuschcobra hatchling
08:22.10ShefkiFisker-: Actually a blue responded about the winter veil thing.  And said they did consider that exploiting.
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08:25.04Fisker-but didn't do anything about it Shefki
08:25.16Fisker-Just as getting a mojo was exploiting but didn't do anyting about it
08:25.30Fisker-or buying honor items for free and didn't do anything about it
08:25.30Fisker-etc.
08:25.46Fisker-So one could wonder why they only care about some and not other
08:26.00robotuschbecause you gained advantage from it
08:26.06Fisker-no
08:26.06robotusch.. and we can't have that, y'know
08:26.12Fisker-And so did everyone else
08:26.13Fisker-duh
08:26.21Fisker-But i still got the hallowed
08:26.27Fisker-so i'll get my mount on schedule
08:26.34Fisker-gotta wait for the pet though
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08:50.15Groktarlicks you
08:51.18thulgets licked.
08:53.15pb_ee1So much love
08:55.42sb|workpurl: go, lick Fisker-
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08:57.30Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Elkano * r139 / (10 files in 9 directories): [dataminer] now sorts Misc.Minipet.Normal
08:57.33Repo[data] dataminer run for all sets
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09:11.48Elkanoyeah, getting that one too from time to time
09:14.47thulhttp://www.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2009/01/29/1233211870436_150.jpg
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09:18.15EthanCentaurai~seen ominous
09:18.17purlominous <n=Ominous@212.183.134.128> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 104d 19h 36m 13s ago, saying: 'yea i know'.
09:18.28EthanCentaurai~seen shadowed
09:18.29purlshadowed is currently on #wowuidev (2d 3h 40m 19s) #wowace (2d 3h 40m 19s), last said: 'unless you're EU'.
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09:28.41thulhttp://fc81.deviantart.com/fs41/i/2009/028/3/e/Kaylee_At_Random_16_by_johnrunning.jpg <- weird (nsfw)
09:30.05Fisker-thul my friend
09:32.49thulhey Fisker-  :-D
09:34.37Fisker-sticks out his tongue
09:34.40Fisker-hey
09:35.14thulI'm in a good mood today, but I'm going to start reading some school stuff now, so the mood will dissapear :-P
09:35.29Fisker-:D
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10:01.17orionshockhow do you clear a tooltip?
10:04.05CrazyBennyGameTooltip:ClearLines I believe
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10:06.03theoddone33youtube loses the subtlety of what makes 3 drake hard
10:18.39Fisker-it's easy!
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11:05.29Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=7840473988&postId=78396784326&sid=1#1 <-is successful troll gonna be succcessful?
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11:06.43Megalonhe already is
11:06.49Megalonas tiga trolled you successfully
11:07.03Megalonyou answered, he won
11:07.12Fisker-trolls trolling trolls
11:07.36Fisker-this is going to be awesome
11:08.02Fisker-highfives a talking shark
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11:16.45Repo10magealert: 03yheen * r46 / (2 files in 1 directory): options are now save to WTF folder :D
11:17.15Groktarblames the world's ills on Repo
11:19.47Fisker-blames them on Groktar the hitler
11:22.39Groktarmakes his guild's webpage take even longer to load
11:23.07Groktarclearly it needs more flash that makes one's computer run like dookey
11:24.47Groktari already have a flash banner that increases firefox's cpu usage by like 5000%
11:25.11Fisker-Your CPU usage can't go beyond 100%
11:25.11Fisker-hoho
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11:25.40Groktaryou're just looking at it the wrong way
11:25.46Fisker-nah
11:25.50Groktarwhat's .01% times 5000%?
11:25.52GroktarHRM?
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11:26.31Fisker-Groktar Firefox doesn't use that little CPU to begin with
11:26.38Fisker-so successful troll is successful
11:26.45Groktarit says 0% on task manager
11:26.59Groktarbut when i go to the website it goes to 4%!
11:27.11Fisker-your task manager is wroooooooong
11:27.38Groktarwhy should it take any cpu to display an already rendered page?
11:29.53Groktarif i madly run my finger across the scroll wheel i can get it to 7-10
11:29.56sb|workbecause Fisker- is IN your firefox... :/
11:30.01Groktaroic
11:30.51robotuschFisker is omnipresent >:|
11:31.02Groktari wish he'd let me into *his* firefox :(
11:32.30Megalonsets Fisker-'s foxhole on fire
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11:33.37robotuschAnd Groktar, I > U
11:33.38robotuschhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/robotusch/Wow/char.jpg
11:33.43robotusch.. or at least I used to be
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11:43.10jnwhitehrobotusch: that EU-Ravencrest by any chance?
12:00.03robotuschindeed
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12:06.48Repo10tankwarnings: 03StingerSoft * r42 / (2 files in 1 directory): - added ruRU localization
12:07.49evlIf one applies the LW only +114 AP enchant to bracers, will dropping LW cause the enchant to disappear?
12:08.16selckinno, but it won't work
12:08.34evlWill the +114 AP stick even if I reroll professions?
12:08.39robotuschno
12:08.44robotuschit will go red & stop working
12:09.05robotuschsame as the ring enchants
12:09.19thulI have a tauren shaman at eu ravencrest
12:09.22thulhas to duel robotusch
12:09.53robotuschthat's an old screenshot, I rerolled alliance :P
12:09.58thul:-(
12:10.06robotuschyou can duel Fisker tho
12:10.07thulthen I have to world-pvp-kill you
12:10.31robotuschoh noes
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12:13.02evlrobotusch: oh, didn't use to be like that I guess, I was hoping for a bracer drop and then rerolling LW :)
12:14.09robotuschnah, they changed that again, to stop people with too much money powerlevelling enchanting once they got their best in slot rings
12:15.05evlyeah I figured as much
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12:15.17evlWell atleast now I don't have to wait for that bracer drop since LW is dead in the water :(
12:15.29evlWhy did they make JC so much better than everything else on the high-end raiding scale
12:16.15evland what are the chances the other professions will ever compete with the prismatic socket feature of JC
12:16.39KalrothJC is +33 extra gem stats, blacksmithing is +32 gem stats
12:17.00robotuschBS also gets 2 sockets
12:17.03evlno? JC gives you sockebonuses you'd otherwise have problems getting
12:17.05robotusch2 extra
12:17.20Kalrothblacksmiths gets 2 extra prismatic sockets
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12:17.29Kalrothgets you*
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12:17.38evlbut only on gloves belt?
12:17.56sb|workbelt is boe
12:17.58evlwhich historically doesn't have any hard to get socket bonuses, mostly legs + chest have the hard ones
12:18.00sb|workits gloves + bracers i think
12:18.08Kalrothgloves and bracers, yes - belt one is BoE
12:18.34evlI still feel JC is a bit ahead
12:18.50Kalrothevl: Sure, but chest + legs are usually 4-5 gem sockets, JC only gets 3 prismatic gems
12:18.58Kalrothalso it's usually the helmet that got the best socket bonus
12:19.06evlYou only put the prismatic in the blue socket
12:19.28Kalroththat depends on your class and spec :)
12:19.35KalrothI only use red sockets, nothing else
12:19.44Kalroth(except for 2 blues for meta)
12:19.45evlexactly, you get 3 more red sockets
12:20.33Industrialckknight: ping
12:21.38Industrialckknight: PitBull4_DogTagTests requires LibDogTag-3.0 to function.
12:23.37Stanzillano shit :P
12:24.57IndustrialStanzilla: that was the error smarty
12:25.04Repo10mtarget: 03gameldar * r15 / (2 files in 1 directory): MTarget:About to rip some stuff out
12:25.04Industrialand yes, obviously, it doesnt work!
12:25.47StanzillaIndustrial: so install libdogtag and it works?
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12:28.24IndustrialStanzilla: It's not that I can't get it to work. I'm telling ck so he knows.
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12:32.41Fisker-WHY SO SERIOUS?
12:33.01IndustrialWHY SO FISKER-?
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12:35.36Fisker-Why so mean_
12:39.31IndustrialWhy so nice_
12:40.05Fisker-WHY SO MAKING FUN OF MY ENGLISH KEYBOARD LAYOUT WHICH IT SWITCHES TO EVERY 5 SECONDS_
12:40.33[dRaCo]because making fun of people is fun?
12:40.35Industriall2computar OLOLOLOLO
12:40.45ElkanoWhy so serious_
12:41.19IndustrialSeriously though, There aren't any unitframe addons out there anymore that arent perl grid pitbull or ouf :( (and dont suck ass)
12:41.31Fisker-AG_UF
12:41.48Fisker-Not to be confused by AG?UF
12:42.06IndustrialAG/UF?
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12:42.31Industrial"This is the TBC version of Ag_UnitFrames. The project homepage is http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ag_UnitFrames"
12:43.29Industrialill try the one from wowace ;P
12:44.33MegalonFisker-: you probably hit alt+shift to often :p
12:44.49Megalonas this is the standard shortcut to switch to english keyboard layout
12:45.03Megalonwhich is very intuitive!
12:46.19Industrialor just use the english keyboard layout and disable language options alltogether
12:46.23Industrial\:D/
12:47.12sb|workthere are other layouts???
12:48.14Megalondvorak :P
12:48.56Xinhuanhttp://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7584/failownedhookhangerfailao6.jpg
12:49.44Megalonthis looks like a case for PEDOBEAR
12:50.08Industriallmao
12:58.10EthanCentaurai~seen Parnic
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12:58.24EthanCentaurai~_~
12:58.25purlSTOP DOING THAT!
13:00.11sb|work~~~~~
13:00.12purlgrrrr
13:00.38EthanCentaurai~~
13:00.38purlEvery moment in which I'm called upon is torture.
13:01.04Fisker-yo dawg
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13:06.55Fisker-my arch nemesis
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13:17.51ChompersFisker-
13:17.56Chompersyou furry
13:17.58Industrialnevcairiel: ping
13:24.37Xinhuan~wowalert
13:24.37purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
13:25.02vhaarrIndustrial: there's stellarUF I believe
13:25.33Industrialvhaarr: thanks, but I just tried ag_Unitframes and liked it a lot :)
13:26.04vhaarrno problem
13:26.08IndustrialI have a little bug though, my playerframe healthbar left text keeps setting itself to absolute HP value, no matter what option I select
13:26.21vhaarrI'm sure you can fix and commit that
13:35.07Industrialactually I can't find it :p
13:35.13IndustrialI'll do it after voa >_
13:35.14Industrial>
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13:54.48Repo10squire: 03Adirelle * r56 Core.lua:
13:54.51RepoRemoved vehicule exiting stuff since most new one-player mounts have been fixed.
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14:03.32kenlyricanyone know how to tell tourguide to unload a guide?
14:03.37kenlyricwithout loading a new one?
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14:14.13Repo10squire: 03Adirelle * r57 Core.lua: Hopefully fixed ticket #10.
14:18.09Kaelteng'morning
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14:23.25Asushey all
14:24.07Asusanyone a wow macro expert i got a question about a command in a macro imlooking at
14:25.09Asuscastsequence Steady Shot,
14:25.10Asuscast Explosive Shot
14:25.24Asusin short why is there a , after steady shot
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14:25.50genetik-because something either used to be after it
14:25.55genetik-or someone just typoed it
14:26.00Asusna
14:26.06Asusits specificaly there
14:26.10Asusnothing after
14:26.15Asusi have a theroy
14:26.35Asusits that it fires explosive and then fires steady shot till
14:26.41Asusexplosive is ready
14:27.18Asuscuz different timers for cool down on each ability explosive being the longest
14:28.49evlAnyone powerleveled JC lately?
14:29.05IndustrialAny enhancement shamans can link me their WWS of patchwerk?
14:32.36Repo10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken * r35 Locale/esMX.lua: Added missing esMX.lua locale file.
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14:36.15Megalonevl: first get http://www.wowhead.com/?item=21945
14:36.29Megalonand then start leveling JC ;P
14:36.42evlI always felt guides were a miss, compared to the mats I have avail
14:38.00Chosimoo
14:38.10Chosianyone into symbian hacking/signing?
14:38.56Chosiand yes, it's totally rediculous to ask that in here
14:38.56Chosi:P
14:39.44sb|workIndustrial: 10s or 25s?
14:40.33sb|worki can link 25s with lags :p
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14:40.58sb|workIndustrial: http://wowwebstats.com/zfdgswcntvvr5?s=606941-646158
14:43.29Industrialsb|work: 25
14:44.16sb|workIndustrial: just click on that url :p
14:44.34Industrialyeah loading it
14:44.42Industrialwws site being all "omg queue up lol"
14:44.49sb|workyup
14:44.52Industrialtrying to get mine too
14:45.06IndustrialI'm having trouble deciding whats good for me
14:45.10sb|work<3 $$-account :p
14:45.13SunTsuhas a 4 minute queue in front of him
14:45.16Industrialcant seem to cap both hit AND expertise
14:46.02nevcairielhit is better
14:46.10sb|workour shaman has 422 hit and 10 expertise
14:46.25sb|workso yes.. hit :p
14:46.43SunTsuIndustrial: I really don't see that much sense in expertise for a melee dd. Given that you most of the time stand behind bosses
14:46.51Industrialmeh you only need 342 or so hit (as draenei) 367 otherwise
14:47.08IndustrialSunTsu: hard cap dodge (6.5%), my windfuries etc still get 9% dodged
14:47.13sb|workhm
14:47.18Industrialeg 204 rating
14:47.21sb|workwtf
14:47.24Industrialme: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Vashj&n=Xamth
14:47.25sb|workwhy 422 hit then
14:47.36Industrialdunno, less miss with meelee
14:47.49sb|workbut seems to work out fine
14:47.52Industrialhit hardcap is like 700 rating or so :P 28%
14:48.10sb|work6% melee miss
14:48.18sb|work(white hit)
14:49.14evlIndustrial: Tried an EJ spreadsheet? I know there's an enh up there
14:49.43Industrialonly see elemental ones
14:50.26IndustrialI need new boots lol :<
14:50.35evlAnd you could probably squeeze out a few more DPS by switching out Herb for JC or something but you are probably painfully aware of that ;)
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14:50.39sb|workIndustrial: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Khaz%27goroth&n=Mucumba
14:51.50evlIndustrial: This is our primary enh, and he keeps doing pretty wickedy-wack dps, maybe he has some tricks to learn: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Darkscion
14:52.13Industrialmy dps on patch was 4600 or so
14:52.20Industrialand im usually around 4k
14:52.26Industrial.. still loading...
14:52.29sb|work%-)
14:52.41sb|workETA 10minutes?
14:53.26Industrial8min :\
14:53.57thulhmm, is using leather/mail worth it for dps-DKs?
14:55.30Zyndromeno
14:55.45Zyndromeonly if you can't get your hands on anything better :P
14:56.02Zyndromeyou want plate for Bladed Armor talent
14:57.45SunTsuthul: If the stats are right, maybe, but normally stats on plate are better, by far, and as Zyndrome said, there always is the Bladed Armor talent
14:59.20Repo10mtarget: 03gameldar * r16 MTarget.lua: MTarget:menus working - still a bit ugly
15:00.33thultrue that, bladed armor is good
15:00.38thul(if you are specced with it?)
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15:02.53Industrialfailwws :< getting timeouts all the time
15:03.11Pneumatusfailwws period
15:03.34SunTsuthul: As a DD I wouldn't go without. I even take it into my current tanking specc
15:03.41Industrial502 Bad Gateway even
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15:13.32Repo10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant * r88 / (4 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 5 lines)
15:13.35RepoFuBar_ConvergeFu:
15:13.38Repo- Updated DBM addon commands:
15:13.41Repo-- Fixed timer calls to work with DBM 4.x.
15:13.44Repo-- Removed 'quiet' pull timers.
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15:15.15Repo10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant 04v3.36-release * r89 : FuBar_ConvergeFu: Tagging this as a proper release.
15:15.46sb|workIndustrial: http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pwmucqo7.png
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15:17.56Industrialsb|work: I cant get my own to load :p
15:18.05Industrialhttp://wowwebstats.com/5oz4knzoujxac think it was that raid
15:18.18sb|workThere was an error while loading your report\
15:20.16IndustrialI just get 502 gateway timeout
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15:42.17Repo10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r152 Coconuts.lua: Coconuts:
15:42.20Repo- Fix the boost problem
15:42.26Repo10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander * r164 MiniPet.lua: MiniPet:
15:42.29Repo- Fix the boost problem
15:43.37AckisWorkfixes his mods
15:43.41AckisWorksvn delete
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15:45.40Megalonbooze problem, mhm
15:46.33dodgaAckisWork: I'm to stupid to find it, so please tell me. How do I edit the exclusion list in ARL? :>
15:46.49AckisWorkyou added stuff to it or want to add stuff to it?
15:47.15dodgaI want to remove stuff from it
15:47.17Industrialsomeguy: WTB white kitten
15:47.21dodgaI added some cooking recipes
15:47.24Industrialme: want to eat white kitten, paying double
15:47.27IndustrialxD
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15:48.12Xinhuan80g on my alliance AH ;p
15:48.14Xinhuan4 of it too
15:48.23Xinhuanand a few more more at 100g lol
15:48.33AckisWorkdodga: in the options there's a check to display exclusions or something along those lines, check it then re-scan
15:48.40dodgaWill do!
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15:51.22dodgadoh, that was.. quite logic :D
15:51.38AckisWorkof course ;)
15:53.08dodgaOh, another thing.. How does Collectinator work? I never got it to show any UI. Does it only filter pets/mounts you already have at a vendor?
15:53.16Repo10ahsearch: 03kunda * r61 / (9 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
15:53.19RepoAHsearch:
15:53.20AckisWorkit doesn't work
15:53.21AckisWorklol
15:53.22Repo- removed WotLK check
15:53.25Repo- fixed 'AHsearch Button' strata/level
15:53.28Repo- NEW: added options for cycle search buttons (prev/next/rnd)
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15:53.59AckisWorkthere's no gui or anything, I'm slowly working on the backend since I'm slow as hell and even lazier
15:54.28dodgaHm, I see :D
15:54.43AckisWorki just get sidetracked at night now
15:54.48AckisWorkso I can't test/etc
15:54.49dodgaAlso, everytime I scanned my pets none of them were known :>
15:55.08dodgaAh nevermind, just wondered if I'm too stupid for that addon too
15:56.47sb|workhmm... do you really want to hear that answer? :p
15:57.22dodgasb|work: diaf.
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15:59.37Repo10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken * r36 Core.lua: Tweaked how "This item begins a quest." items are detected.
16:00.38AckisWorkbecause I fail: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/inactive-e-mails/
16:00.43Kaeltenhey guys
16:00.48dodgahmpf newest Parrot borks out
16:00.52ckknightI am the very model of a modern Major-General, I've information vegetable, animal, and mineral
16:01.15Kaeltencan anyone check and see the idle cpu usage of the client?
16:01.31Repo10ahsearch: 03kunda * r62 / (2 files in 1 directory): lib fix
16:01.37AckisWork~dict agnostic
16:01.42AckisWorkgrumbles
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16:03.18Sliker_Hawk.. anyone know why I'd be being told UnitMaxHealth is a nil value from within a function?
16:06.04steevKaelten: personally, 00 here at idle
16:06.20steevthats on a pentium 2.4ghz single core
16:07.10AckisWorksteev: why so old computer?
16:07.57steevAckisWork: its my spare computer here at work
16:08.32Kaeltenyeah our DoT is idling at 40%
16:08.33steevi don't run the curse client at home, ironically enough
16:08.37Kaeltentrying to see if its isolated
16:08.55steevKaelten: however... that is after a fresh start and it scanning
16:09.05AckisWorksteev: curse client runs you, not the other way around
16:09.06steev.net sp1 update ftl
16:09.15steevAckisWork: not at home it doesn't!
16:09.18AckisWorkdid you know their internal project name for it is skynet?
16:09.31steevAckisWork: for CC? or for .net?
16:09.38AckisWork<PROTECTED>
16:09.41steevheh
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16:09.48steevit has a long way to go... :-P
16:09.56steevalthough honestly, i gotta say, its grown on me
16:10.10steevat first i was like, omfg gay, this is so not wowaceclient which was awesome
16:10.17steevnow im like, eh, it could be wowmatrix
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16:11.17Kaeltenhonestly, I think in many ways we're getting to a comperable point to wau
16:11.31Kaeltenpart of the problem is c++/wx development is so slow and buggy
16:11.42steevhates on wx with Kaelten
16:11.50Kaeltenlol
16:11.57Kaeltenmy impression of wx is basically as follows:
16:12.00evlAIR :)
16:12.07steevkicks evl
16:12.09nevcairieldont you dare put a java client outt here
16:12.19Kaeltena group of developers work on the core libs
16:12.25Kaeltenthey add to it what they need to make their apps work
16:12.31Kaeltenthey don't give a shit about anyone else
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16:12.40Kaeltenmaybe I'm wrong
16:12.44Kaeltenbut that's damn sure how it feels
16:12.45steevKaelten: about generally correct
16:12.47nevcairielsounds like ace2 back in the day
16:12.51steevi know a couple of the devs
16:13.07steevthey've made statements amounting to about the same thing
16:13.20AckisWorkI see what you did there nevcairiel
16:13.26Kaeltennevcairiel: I think we still have some of the same thing going on in ace3.
16:13.38steevalso, sites that pop up a warning to say that disturbing pictures are on this site
16:13.50steevshould do it before loading the pics imo
16:13.54nevcairielnah we dont hack the core to fix problems in our app
16:14.07nevcairielwe stuck to the initial design
16:14.13Kaeltensteev: lol, I also am pissed because they treat mac as a second class citizen.  It's even more buggy there
16:14.14Hirsute~stab wowmatrix
16:14.15purlACTION runs at wowmatrix with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.
16:14.27nevcairielKaelten: you are
16:14.28nevcairielruns
16:14.28Kaeltennevcairiel: true, but I feel there are places where we lack feature completeness
16:14.50Kaeltenlol
16:14.51nevcairielwrite a ticket
16:15.09Kaeltenwell they claim to be a cross platform lib
16:15.15Kaeltenbut they don't actually deliver
16:15.33evlAIR! :D
16:15.37nevcairielshould've used Qt
16:15.39Kaeltenevl: is evil.
16:15.42evlIt's fast, looks identical on all platforms.
16:15.44thulWTQTDANCE
16:15.45evlWhy is it evil
16:15.47Kaeltennevcairiel: that was my suggestion, way back when
16:15.59Kaeltenevl: actionscript + flex == evil
16:16.00evlHow can you be talking about other evils when WX is the current :(
16:16.13steevwx ROCKS
16:16.17Kaeltenevl: I'd rather do pyQT myself :P
16:16.18evlMight be because scrubs don't know AS :)(
16:16.22steevcheerleads for wx
16:16.24AckisWorknevcairiel: I don't want them to use me, I'm a big QT
16:16.37steevqt still looks like ass imo
16:16.48ckknightlet's use Shoes
16:16.51AckisWorkKaelten is a QT imo
16:17.05ckknightamirite?
16:17.13KaeltenShoes?  Why not start with pants
16:17.28nevcairielI heard ckk is not much into pants
16:17.58AckisWorkif you could be at work right now without wearing pants, would you?
16:18.03Kaeltenluckly he hasn't shown up pantless to work yet
16:18.03AckisWorkohh that should be the next poll
16:18.19ckknight...definitely
16:18.39Kaeltenyeah...
16:18.51AckisWork:P
16:19.21hackerfromtheidShoes?  _why not ;)
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16:20.09hackerfromtheidgets his coat
16:20.24RepoNew poll: http://www.wowace.com/polls/iif-you-could-be-at-work-right-now-without-wearing/
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16:21.04Kaeltenhttp://www.wowace.com/polls/if-you-could-be-at-work-right-now-without-wearing/
16:21.30Repo10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken 040.5 * r37 : Tagging as 0.5
16:22.08renchap404 Page Not Found
16:22.19steevoh that reminds me
16:22.25AckisWorkhttp://www.wowace.com/polls/if-you-could-be-at-work-right-now-without-wearing-pants/
16:22.27steevso my project got marked as inactive
16:22.31steevand when i clicked the link
16:22.37AckisWorksteev: diaf
16:22.46steevit tells me ti doesn't exist and whatnot
16:22.52Kaeltensteev?
16:22.55Kaeltenwhat link?
16:22.59AckisWorksteev: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/inactive-e-mails/
16:22.59nevcairielread the news you lazy person
16:23.08AckisWorkKaelten: it was the project XXX link
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16:24.10steevyeah but
16:24.15Fisker-btw nevcairiel
16:24.17steevi can't find my project anymore :(
16:24.18Fisker-i almost died today etc.
16:24.27nevcairielsad
16:24.30nevcairielonly almost
16:24.47steevFisker-: try harder
16:24.48AckisWorknevcairiel++
16:26.16AckisWorkneeds a guild who will let him raid to get achievements :P
16:26.55ckknightFisker-: your new queen: http://i39.tinypic.com/k0hr35.jpg
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16:29.20Fisker-awesome ckknight
16:29.32Fisker-i'll do that steev
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16:47.26Chosihttp://kqe.de/pruell/tequila-glas.kqe.jpg
16:47.27Chosi:>
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16:50.42sb|workChosi: 20.01.
16:50.59sb|workand kqe is evil :o
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17:00.54Repo10ahsearch: 03kunda 04r62-release * r63 : Tagging as r62-release
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17:13.39IndustrialIs there an RSS feed? http://www.wowace.com/projects/
17:14.26AckisWorkwe don't believe in rss
17:14.45ZaoLog what Repo says and emit XML.
17:15.06steevKaelten: okay, now CC is idling at 98% cpu - it claims its scanning addons in the lower right corner of the screen
17:15.28Zaosteev: I wouldn't claim 98% usage "idle".
17:15.39Kaeltenwell it's not idling
17:15.41steevZao: the client itself is "idling" not the computer
17:15.42Kaeltenit's scanning :)
17:15.52steevKaelten: for certain definitions of scanning
17:16.08Kaeltenhow many addons do you have?
17:16.10ZaoPull up Process Explorer's handle view and see what it's churning on.
17:16.34ZaoI wonder how it would behave if you put recursive junctions or shortcutds in your AddOns.
17:16.42Kaeltenugh
17:16.46KaeltenI don't want to know
17:16.46steevKaelten: 198
17:16.49IndustrialAckisWork: i belive in not pressing f5 every hour
17:16.56IndustrialAckisWork: so theres no feed?
17:17.03AckisWorkIndustrial: F5
17:17.04steevincluding the blizzard_*
17:17.17IndustrialKaelten: is there an rss feed for updated projects?
17:17.23steeva lot of em are split out though
17:17.35steevlike pitbull, quartz, cartographer
17:18.00Kaeltensteev: the scanning process is more intensive than other apps, but it's also more accurate
17:18.14KaeltenIndustrial: yeah, www.wowace.com/projects.rss iirc
17:18.27Industrialty
17:18.29IndustrialAckisWork: nuh!
17:18.56quiescensmoo
17:19.08Kaeltensteev: it's doing hashes of every file in every folder in your addons directory.
17:19.11steevKaelten: hrm... pershaps the issue(s) are these folders like Talentedbackup that are empty
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17:19.35Kaeltensteev: windows xp?
17:19.44steevKaelten: yessir
17:19.51Kaeltenyeah, it's a bug
17:21.00Arrowmasterthat rss isnt of new files though
17:21.22Kaeltensteev: it's one of our blockers for the RC1 release
17:23.56steevokay - after removing "backup" directories and the blizzard stuffs
17:24.00steevi have 125 addons
17:24.16PrimerI don't understand how iterating a loop once, with a conditional that checks something and causes a huge swath of code to NOT execute, make my frame rate go down so much
17:24.34steevbtw, is there a way to tell CC to not split out pitbull/quartz ?
17:24.44Primerin fact, even when the code did execute, there was no frame rate drop
17:26.00steevsince if i combine cart, pb and quartz, its down to 69 addons
17:26.24Pneumatussplitting the addons is the authors decision, not the CC's
17:26.44Arrowmasterthe client isnt even doing it
17:26.51Pneumatusthe client just unzips a zip
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17:27.00steevahh, thought it was, since the versions i had installed were together
17:27.21Repo10squire: 03Adirelle * r58 / (4 files in 2 directories):
17:27.24RepoRevamped mount and spell selection GUI in order to implement ticket #9.
17:27.39Pneumatusthe authors have told the packager to split it into multiple module folders, which it does when creating the zip, the CC just unpacks those zips
17:28.33Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r1876 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update
17:28.47steevPneumatus: makes sense, okay
17:29.13steevwau used to give the option whether to split it or not, assumed CC was same way
17:29.29ArrowmasterCC != WAU
17:29.36Arrowmastera lot of things are very different
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17:30.33Kaeltenyes much is different
17:33.38Fisker-[18:32:46][2. Trade] [Narok]: sry, ur dad wants me back to bed, brb
17:33.38Fisker-[18:32:52][2. Trade] [Narok]: *mom*
17:33.40Fisker-ooooooooooooooooooooowned
17:34.29AckisWorkFisker-: is your ingame name narok?
17:34.37Fisker-no
17:34.46Fisker-it's your mom
17:35.19Kaeltenlol
17:35.53Primerthis is very strange. It turns out the variable that resets my "elapsed" timer in my onUpdate is causing the FPS drop
17:36.26Primerit I comment it out, and allow that variable to simply increment (yes, I know, it means my OnUpdate runs every time), the lag goes away
17:36.37Kaeltensteev: the thread that does the scanning is tuned so it should only get left over cycles so it shouldn't be causing you to lag elsewhere
17:36.41Gnarfozpastey, Primer
17:37.00Primerheh, it's huge
17:37.10PrimerI wish there was an svn web
17:37.15PrimerI could just point to that
17:37.30steevKaelten: yeah, the only reason i even notice is because the scanning box shows up in the lower right and doesn't go away
17:38.37Kaeltensteev: I assume it goes away when finished though?
17:39.12quiescenswhat if he has every addon in existance installed!
17:39.23PrimerGnarfoz: http://pastebin.com/m19017e8e
17:39.33Primeran over-simplified version
17:39.40steevKaelten: well... no, it never finishes
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17:39.58steevjust kinda sits there
17:40.07GnarfozPrimer: table churn?
17:40.09Kaeltenseriously?
17:40.19steevi just restarted the client though after removing all those empty backup folders
17:40.23steevyes seriously
17:40.25PrimerGnarfoz: note that I use a variable
17:40.27Kaeltenwtf
17:40.36Primerfor the interval...in my prefs, that's set to 0
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17:40.48Primerso the OnUpdate for me always runs, and it's smooth
17:41.01Kaeltensteev: everytime? or?
17:41.06GnarfozPrimer: huh? I was asking if it could be the table churn from your a.b.c.d table access
17:41.37PrimerI found out that I had the reset of the elapsed variable within a for loop...
17:41.38Primererr
17:41.38steevKaelten: every time previously - i'd never really noticed before, then when i got to work this morning (wasn't in yesterday) - my screensaver was going and that scanning box was just sitting there heh
17:41.40Primeryou lost me
17:41.41Pneumatuslolwhat @ latest poll
17:41.45Primerlet me make a better paste
17:42.24Kaeltensteev: let me know if it happens again
17:43.28Pneumatushmm, jostle could really do with fixing for the new "GM wants to chat with you" thingy
17:44.35steevKaelten: will do - i just figure its the empty backup folders but i could be totally off
17:44.50PrimerGnarfoz: http://pastebin.com/d424f5c4b
17:45.06Kaeltenperhaps
17:45.11Kaeltenalthough it doesn't hang like that for me
17:45.19PrimerGnarfoz: so what exactly is this "churn"?
17:45.31Gnarfoztable access is "expensive"
17:45.42Gnarfozcpu time wise
17:45.49Primerso my variable shouldn't be an object property?
17:45.51Gnarfozat least, there are cheaper accesses
17:46.29Gnarfozwell, "objects" are just tables anyway, Lua isn't OO
17:47.01Primerright
17:47.11Primermaking it a local variable to test
17:47.17ckknightlua> local yourmom = { fuck = function() print("Oh baby!") end }; yourmom:fuck()
17:47.18lua_botckknight: Oh baby!
17:47.38AckisWork...
17:47.41nevcairiellol
17:47.47Megalonthat's what she said
17:47.53ckknightquite true
17:48.09nevcairielPrimer: one more table access should never cause any lag in an OnUpdate, though
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17:48.14Gnarfozckk is on a roll
17:48.22Primernevcairiel: this was never a problem before
17:48.37ckknightnevcairiel's right
17:48.37PrimerI just can't imagine why commenting out that line would fix it
17:48.47ckknightboth gettable and settable are quite quick
17:48.50Primeryeah, making it a local variable did nothing
17:49.45nevcairielcan you pastey the lien where you register the OnUpdate into a frame?
17:49.48Primeractually
17:49.51nevcairielor just paste it ehre
17:49.53nevcairiel*here
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17:50.10Primerbah
17:50.12Primernm
17:50.20PrimerI had reset the interval to test something
17:50.25Primerit wasn't "lag"
17:50.38nevcairiellol
17:50.42Primerit was only running the onupdate every tenth of a second
17:50.54Primerwell, the interval is a config option
17:50.59nevcairielthats a pretty reasonable limit though
17:51.03Primerbut this is good, as it lead me to find a bug
17:51.05nevcairieli run most stuff on TOOLTIP_UPDATE_TIME
17:51.07nevcairielwhich is 0.2
17:51.17PrimerI default this to 0
17:51.21Primerwell, in my prefs
17:51.25Primeras my box can handle it
17:52.02Repo10squire: 03Adirelle * r59 Core.lua: deDE update, thanks to mojosdojo.
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17:55.28Brunersis there a new exploit to be mounted in dalarnan now?
17:56.05Brunerstwo dudes afk on their flyers outside the bank
17:56.14AckisWorkyou need the special mount called "Fisker-'s mom"
17:56.32Arrowmasterare they in the air?
17:56.40Brunersnope
17:57.43steevlag
17:58.46Brunershttp://ui.ipwn.se/i/341.jpg
18:00.50steevnice ui
18:00.56steevhow do you follow any conversations?
18:01.17nevcairielheh
18:01.29Industrialhttp://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/january/ss721.jpg
18:01.30Brunerssteev: expand the panel
18:01.32IndustrialLOOLl ew a dwarf
18:01.35Industrial>_<
18:01.50Brunerssteev: http://ui.ipwn.se/i/337.jpg something like this
18:02.23steevso the bar shifts up and down?
18:02.42Brunerssteev: also got a guild, whisper, party tab for channels
18:02.46steevright
18:02.47Brunerssteev: when i click it yes
18:02.56nevcairiellooks kinda funny that your action bars stay there when the bar is gone
18:03.21steevwhats that B B U U F F thing
18:03.29Brunersrunes
18:03.41Brunersnevcairiel: its more timers and shit there when i combat :P
18:04.11steevahh okay
18:04.15steevi thought it was buffs heh
18:04.18Repo10hits-mode: 03Allara * r61 / (2 files in 1 directory):
18:04.22Repo- Message Threshold now has a maximum value of 1000 (up from 200)
18:04.24Repo- Fixed an error when SPELL_BUILDING_DAMAGE events occurred
18:04.30steevblood unholy frost - makes sense - what addon is that? magic runes?
18:04.35Brunersyes
18:04.53Repo10hits-mode: 03Allara 04r61-release * r62 : Tagging as r61-release
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18:06.01Brunerssteev: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onuBZ1dqOzc
18:09.33Repo10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles * r98 todo.txt: InventoryOnPar: -
18:09.36Repoblank line added to todo to test commit on new svn setup
18:09.52Primerheh, feel pretty stupid about that last one :)
18:10.17AckisWorkas you should
18:10.18AckisWorkdumbass
18:10.19AckisWorksheesh
18:10.20Primerso is there still no wowace svn web?
18:10.21steevBruners: seems interesting - but i miss enough chat as it is
18:11.17gixwg is like unplayable with 140 vs 140 :/
18:11.27Primeryou don't say...
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18:13.32Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r538 Zul'Drak/Moorabi.lua: Stop the bar if the transformation is interrupted.
18:13.48steevhate that stupid transform
18:14.14steev9 times out of 10 parrot says i interrupted it, and the game is like lolnoudidnt
18:14.44Camciwhen you hide recount does it still gather data in the background?
18:16.23Primerfunny how wow-heroes drops you when you log off in pvp gear
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18:18.41steevheroes don't pvp.
18:21.26Arrowmasterthe solution is to never have pvp gear like me
18:21.39Pneumatusapart from taking wintergrasp so you can raid archavon for 2 badges
18:21.43AckisWorkI walk around naked
18:22.59NeoTronanother evening of S3D attempts, another evening of failures. (10 man)
18:25.26steevyou don't need to wear pvp gear for wg
18:26.03steevhell my DK has 777 resilience and i still get hit by 9k executes
18:26.09steevpvp gear is fail
18:26.12Primeryeah
18:26.17nevcairielits not the gear
18:26.18Primerhoping they'll fix it
18:26.19nevcairielpvp is fail
18:26.26AckisWorkI like the lag in WG
18:26.30AckisWorkit means no one kills me
18:26.36AckisWorkand I can get a lot of hks/etc
18:26.40steevnevcairiel: "Call in the Cavalry" achievement required 30 of each bg :(
18:26.44PrimerI think that even if WG was fully instanced, it'd still lag badly
18:27.29nevcairielsteev: i got that in classic wow already :)
18:27.31NeoTronPrimer: the benefit of it not being instanced is that it lags the entire continent AND blocks flying through the center areas
18:27.37NeoTronso there's those "benefits" to think of
18:27.40steevnevcairiel: kinda hard to as a DK ;_P
18:27.56steevyeah - the lack of flying is annoying as shit
18:27.56AckisWorksteev: what's call of the cavarly? pvp mount/
18:28.01steevAckisWork: yeah
18:28.10nevcairielInstancing would be hard to achieve with its current design of being open
18:28.12steevspecifically the one for 30 badges from av/wsg/ab
18:28.21AckisWorkah I need to get the remaining ones... plus the frostwolf
18:28.23steevthere's another achievement for the 60 badge av mount
18:28.31PrimerBilzz really fucked the pooch with WG
18:28.34AckisWorkI'm kicking myself for not getting the frostwolf when it was 5g :(
18:28.47steevno one does av anymore
18:29.08steevmakes me sad cuz i can get 7k honor in 1 av
18:29.15steevversus 1.4k in wsg
18:29.49NeoTronI primarily mind the stupid no fly zone that basically forces you to take scenic routes and not to AFK when flying to BT or basin and vice versa
18:29.53NeoTronreally annoying
18:30.28Arrowmasteragreed
18:30.52Arrowmasterwouldnt be as bad if there was a direct flight path from dalaran to basin or tundra
18:30.53quiescensthey should make it so that the no fly zone only applies within some distance of the ground
18:30.58steevwhy can't they just make it so you can't dismount when flying over it, except in the fp areas
18:31.13AckisWorkI wished all zones were a no fly zone
18:31.45Zhinjiog'mornin
18:31.54AckisWorkheya Zhinjio
18:32.03AckisWorkZhinjio: see the tickets i made for broker trade cooldowns? hehe
18:32.43Zhinjioyup
18:33.16Megalonbtw
18:33.21Megalondiamonds do not have a cooldown
18:33.34Megalonat least not the WotLK ones
18:35.09AckisWorkyah that's right no cooldown
18:35.44NeoTrondiamonds?
18:36.33ZhinjioI made a "category" of cooldowns for diamond transmutes
18:36.43Zhinjiowhich no longer have a cooldown in 3.0.8
18:37.00Zhinjiosince it was a shared cooldown
18:37.34AckisWorkZhinjio: iirc the wrath diamonds never had one, did they remove the bc cooldown?
18:37.44Zhinjionot sure
18:37.54ZhinjioI don't have an alchemist
18:37.59ZhinjioI'll have to check on my wife's toon
18:38.40AckisWorkI know void sphere's et al had the cooldown removed
18:39.48AckisWorkZhinjio: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25868#comments
18:40.06AckisWorklooks like you can nuke the diamonds completely
18:40.34Megalonwotlk diamonds never had a cooldown
18:40.39Zhinjioroger
18:40.53nevcairielindeed
18:40.56ZhinjioI hope to get some time to do some coding today
18:41.02nevcairielthe diamonds are nice to spec alchemy
18:41.05nevcairielsome easy points
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18:41.20Primeryeah, leveling alch is easy
18:41.26PrimerI got to 450 at 72 in one day
18:41.40nevcairieli didnt bother until i hit 77 for getting the good herbs
18:41.52Primerheh, I just bought the herbs
18:42.01nevcairielI did it in the release week
18:42.08Megaloni love engi
18:42.10nevcairieli sold lichbloom stacks for 300-400 gold
18:42.11Primermy alchemist is my alt
18:42.11nevcairiel:P
18:42.14Megalonand my 84758 gnomish army knifes
18:42.16Primerit's still 74 :/
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18:51.15NivFreakman
18:51.22NivFreaklast laugh has still never dropped for us
18:51.24NivFreakQQ
18:52.00Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r36 / (9 files in 2 directories): update localization files
18:52.02Repotry to fix the tracker bug
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18:55.03pompyclassNivFreak: same here.
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18:55.08pompyclassrunning it tonight so i hope it drops
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18:56.36pompyclassimagine if it happened, the shield, axe and t7.5 helm dropping on one kill.
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18:58.06AckisWorkhahahah
18:58.35sb|workmh...
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19:02.22pompyclasslol
19:08.03rhackris there a way to reload a single addon ? or do i have to do /console reloadui every time i make a change to my addon to test it ?
19:08.51nevcairielyou have to reloadui
19:08.59rhackrdamn
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19:11.52jnwhitehlearn to develop on an account with minimal addons installed :P
19:11.54jnwhitehmakes it nice and fast
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19:26.59Repo- Update RealmList and PetAndMountDatabase
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19:42.09Zhinjioso how does this work with frenzyheart/oracles.
19:42.17Zhinjiocan you do both?
19:43.20nevcairielthere is a daily to reset your reputation to honored with one of the factions
19:43.24nevcairielso you can change it
19:43.59manyjust kill altruis again and kill the other one
19:44.14manythatll reset the rep
19:44.36Zhinjiook, gotcha
19:45.18manyobviously you should finish doing everything you want to with the old faction first
19:45.24many+do
19:45.46manygenerally its probably best to choose the wrong side first, if you want the achievement
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19:57.22robotuschie frenzyheart
19:58.18Xinhuan...
19:58.27XinhuanPLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD can fire before VARIABLES_LOADED
19:58.50Xinhuanthat's fucked
19:59.05Xinhuanit happens when you delete your WTF
19:59.08robotusch:?
19:59.17Xinhuanor at least, all files for the relevant char
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20:01.38Xinhuannevcairiel, what's your view on this
20:02.35jnwhitehpompy: TomTom already disables the coordinate block in an instance
20:02.45jnwhitehyou are using another addon that is causing a race condition on WORLD_MAP_UPDATE
20:02.49jnwhitehthat's not my problem :P
20:02.56Repo10magealert: 03yheen * r47 / (2 files in 1 directory): FoF option fixed
20:03.06jnwhitehweird Xinhuan
20:03.15Xinhuanyeah, well, you can replicate this bug easily
20:03.20jnwhiteh*nod*
20:03.25Xinhuanby either deleting your WTF for that char
20:03.27Xinhuanand logging in
20:03.28jnwhitehwell, its not necessarily a bug
20:03.30Xinhuanor creating a new one
20:03.32jnwhitehwe don't decide event order
20:03.38jnwhitehthe bug is us relying on that event order for things
20:04.00Xinhuanwell its quite a major one now, since assumptions get broken
20:04.13Fisker-how do you calculate multiple strength modifiers?
20:04.29jnwhitehwait
20:04.34Fisker-like +15%(talent) strength and +10%(bok)
20:04.36jnwhitehXinhuan: why are you using VARIABLES_LOADED at all?
20:04.45jnwhitehs/you/anyone/
20:05.18Xinhuanhmm you have a good point, but generally i use VARIABLES_LOADED as a indicator that all non-lod addons have loaded
20:05.31Xinhuanso i can check for existance of optional support addons/libraries
20:05.37jnwhitehwell that's still the case
20:05.47jnwhitehbut all non-lod addon loading is done at P_E_W
20:05.59jnwhitehsince only Blizzard should care about VARIABLES_LOADED
20:06.08jnwhitehit does shift things when people make the wrong assumption tho =/
20:06.24XinhuanVARIABLES_LOADED is also important because that is also the event which fires directly after layout-cache.txt has been applied
20:06.29Xinhuanand loaded
20:06.45jnwhiteh*nod*
20:06.47Xinhuanso if your addon needs to reposition a frame based from savedvar data, it can override it
20:06.59jnwhitehbut what I'm saying is these things are DIFFERENT than those events which shoudl be using PLAYER_ENTERING_WORDL
20:07.36Xinhuanwell i think wowwiki and perhaps wowprogramming needs an update now that P_E_W can fire before
20:07.43XinhuanV_L
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20:07.50Xinhuanwhere previously up until patch 3.0
20:08.00Xinhuanit can be relied on that P_E_W will only fire after V_L
20:08.06jnwhitehare you sure this is a 3.x change?
20:08.12jnwhitehhad anyone ever tested this case before?
20:08.17Xinhuanyes, i only noticed errors since 3.0
20:08.25Xinhuanbut didn't go indepth about why
20:08.35jnwhitehwowprogramming doesn't make any claims about it, so it doesn't need any updating
20:09.01Repo10magealert: 03yheen * r48 magealert.lua: fof fix 2
20:09.01jnwhitehI'm the "use the right events" nazi, so I tried to follow those rules when writing :P
20:10.30Xinhuanhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Events_that_fire_during_the_loading_process
20:10.43jnwhiteh*nod*
20:10.46jnwhitehclearly needs an update :P
20:12.01Xinhuani'm not even sure how to update that one
20:14.21Chompersckk, are you about
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20:15.09WizardlingHi - gathermate doesn't work on my main map
20:15.28Wizardlingand it does not show resource nodes at the edge of my minimap
20:16.08WizardlingI use Mapster for my main map and SexyMap for my minimap if that matters
20:16.32Xinhuan/gathermate --> options --> auto-show/hide
20:18.31WizardlingI have everything set to show with profession
20:18.52Wizardlingand I have mining
20:19.08Wizardlingnis that what you meant by auto-hide?
20:19.20ckknightChompers, I have never left you, child
20:19.25Chompersawesome
20:19.42Chomperscould you repackage fubar and parrot with the updated libs?
20:20.05Chompersi just replaced librock in both of them with a newer revision, both work now
20:20.10WizardlingFunny - I'd forgotten I'd installed Gathermate (just back in the saddle with WoW)
20:20.21Xinhuanwell Wizardling, all i can say reinstall it
20:20.25WizardlingI don't think it ever worked for me over the past few weeks
20:20.29Chompersprobably cartographer too, the original
20:20.29ckknightChompers, I may need to retag Rock as well
20:20.34Wizardlingnot got Cart
20:20.41Wizardlingoh, sorry
20:20.46Wizardlingwrong conversation
20:21.11Xinhuanyou'll need to anyway, patch 3.0.8 changed some mining stuff
20:21.16Xinhuanwhich requires an update
20:21.48WizardlingI seem to have v1.1.2 but the site http://www.wowace.com/projects/gathermate/files/412-v1-0-12/ has 1.0.12 - so I assume that's a typo?
20:22.09ChompersWizardling: you've got gathermate_data too yeah?
20:22.14Wizardlingnope
20:22.27Wizardlingbut I've been the same places a lot already
20:22.33Xinhuanno it is not a typo
20:22.39Xinhuanthe prev version before it is 1.0.11
20:22.43Wizardlingthere are plenty of nodes I know about that do not show
20:22.59Chompersmerge them then
20:23.04Wizardlingso it's a typo in the readme
20:23.06Wizardlingokay
20:23.10Wizardling*downloads*
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20:25.50Yheenhuhu, i have a question how can i edit the zip file name from e.g.: magealert-r48.zip to magealert.zip?
20:25.55Wizardlingis gathermate_data still working?
20:26.16Xinhuanyes, but we update it weekly with wowdb data
20:26.18Yheenmy gathermate_data still work
20:26.18jnwhitehXinhuan: do you have server sync of bindings/macros enabled?
20:26.29Xinhuanyes clad
20:26.39jnwhitehI suspect that's part of your issue
20:26.41Xinhuani have sync enabled (its enabled by default)
20:26.51Xinhuanu have to actively disable it
20:26.52jnwhitehI'd expect that VARIABLES_LOADED doesn't fire until that download is done
20:27.06jnwhitehsince its in teh same class of data that's loaded before that event fires
20:27.07Xinhuanwell, the same error also happens on a patch day
20:27.21Xinhuanthat is, on first load after installation of a new patch
20:27.36Xinhuani've seen the error on 3.0.2, 3.0.3 and now 3.0.8
20:27.48Xinhuanjust that since it isn't repeatable normally, i didn't care about it much
20:28.12jnwhitehwell
20:28.19jnwhitehthen I'd say you can no longer guarantee the load order
20:28.26jnwhitehand I suspect its due to the loading of those synced components
20:28.47jnwhitehdoes deleting all the SV's do it?
20:28.50Xinhuanyes
20:28.51jnwhitehi.e. if you leave the Config.WTF there
20:28.56Xinhuanerr
20:29.01Xinhuannot sure on that one
20:29.04jnwhitehmaybe try turning off sync and seeing if its fires correctly with SV's all deleted
20:29.06jnwhitehif that's one of the cases
20:29.11jnwhiteheither way, we should update the wiki :P
20:30.14Wizardlingokay - slight improvement: I now have nodes showing on the edge of my minimap
20:30.21Wizardlingstill nothing on the main map
20:30.33Xinhuanis your main map option off?
20:30.40Wizardlingno
20:30.43Brunersstupid warriors and their DW two hand weapons
20:30.53Yheen:D
20:30.58Xinhuantoggle it and see wat happens?
20:31.17Xinhuanis node alpha non-0?
20:31.46Chosianybody here with a nokia E66?
20:31.48Xinhuanor perhaps you just don't have nodes in that zone?
20:31.52Wizardlingwell I feel slightly silly
20:31.56Wizardlingtoggling worked
20:32.11WizardlingI've had to do that with other addons
20:32.14steevBruners: hell yeah
20:32.18WizardlingI should have thought of that
20:32.32Wizardlingmind you - still not a real user error
20:32.39WizardlingTY for the help :-)
20:32.55Xinhuanyou're the 1st person to complai about this since we wrote gathermate 1.5 years ago ;p
20:33.11Wizardling*shrug*
20:33.14Xinhuani would say its not a code issue on my end ;p
20:33.22WizardlingI seem to have a knack for finding trouble
20:35.30Yheeni have a question how can i edit the zip file name from "magealert-r48.zip" to "magealert.zip"?
20:35.50Wizardlingthis name change of nodes - is it only in Northrend?
20:36.00Xinhuanyes
20:36.08Wizardlingokay, TY again :-)
20:36.31Xinhuanon wowace auto generated zips Yheen?
20:36.39Yheenjep
20:36.47Xinhuananswer is not possible, the versioning is needed
20:36.55Yheen:(
20:36.57Xinhuanevery zip needs a version number
20:37.05Yheenokay thx
20:37.19Xinhuanthere is no more "latest link zip"
20:37.25Xinhuanlike the old wowace
20:38.18Yheeni had seen other project there zip file names all the same
20:38.39Xinhuanshow me such a wowace project
20:40.00Yheenall rev's from Mage Fever
20:40.16Xinhuanlink?
20:40.17NeoTronok wtf is with the wowace poll
20:40.19Yheenmom
20:40.48Xinhuanlol
20:41.21Yheenhttp://wow.curseforge.com/projects/mfever/
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20:41.29Xinhuanthats not a wowace project
20:41.35Xinhuanthats a curse forge one
20:41.39Yheenokay sry :)
20:42.06BrunersMikk: found that addon that recorded spikes yet?
20:42.10Xinhuanalso those zips are manual uploaded, not auto generated
20:42.31Xinhuanthat project has no repository
20:42.57Yheenthx 4 info :-)
20:44.42Repo10rating-buster: 03Whitetooth * r203 / (14 files in 1 directory): - Ported over to Ace3
20:44.48ckknightNeoTron, Kaelten made it
20:46.19Xinhuannot sure if its feasible, ckknight, to have a link to a zip that is always the "latest version"
20:46.59ckknightnope
20:47.15ckknighttechnically we could
20:47.17Yheennice support further so :)
20:47.18ckknightbut it's a policy issue
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20:47.33Xinhuandoes it have to do with external updaters?
20:47.38Repo10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r147 / (3 files in 2 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0:
20:47.41Repo- PetAndMountDatabase: Fix Mounts.TempleofAhnQiraj, apparently all of the crystal are learnable...
20:48.32Xinhuanand is it more of a curse policy or a wowace one?
20:48.56Arrowmasteryes its a fuck off wowmatrix policy
20:48.57Kaelten@oikk
20:49.00Kaelten@poll
20:49.04Kaeltenbah
20:49.29KaeltenXinhuan: what policy?
20:49.41ckknightsoon enough,we will destroy WowMatrix
20:49.43ckknight...soon
20:49.47Xinhuanabout not having a permanent link to "latest zip"
20:50.04Kaeltenone day :)
20:50.04Yheenwhy destroy ?
20:50.09ckknightit's evil
20:50.26KaeltenYheen: wowmatrix costs legitimate addon sights thousands of dollars a month
20:50.49ckknightsites*
20:51.06ckknightand if the sites lose money, they might close
20:51.13ckknightmaking it so that wowmatrix won't be able to leech from anywhere anymore
20:51.23ckknightthus destroying the community as a whole
20:51.31Xinhuando you have any facts/figures to share regarding wowmatrix's recent success or failure? ;p
20:51.32Kaeltenin the end sites like curse and wowinterface will be forced to do more and more restrictive things to stop them, in the end hurting the end user.
20:52.29Yheenbut i thing wowmatrix is a nice alternative to the old wowace updater or curse client
20:52.34KaeltenXinhuan: they have a few hundred thousand users, they purposely evade all attempts to block them, when offered a buyout to just shut down they refused and counter offered with a 'contribution' towards the bandwidth that represents a small fraction of the bills the incur us.
20:52.58KaeltenYheen: if they pulled addons from their own site, that they paid for and that authors uploaded to of their own volition. I'd agree.
20:52.59AckisWorkXinhuan: they also refuse to take addons off their service
20:53.07Xinhuanwait what, they were offered a buyout and they refused?
20:53.11Arrowmasteryes
20:53.13ckknightyep, Xinhuan
20:53.14KaeltenXinhuan: yes
20:53.22Yheensure :)
20:53.25ckknightyea, I asked for my addons to be removed from WowMatrix, they removed it from their website, but not the app
20:53.42KaeltenXinhuan: we offered them money for their hard work just to stop, and they refused.
20:53.42Yheenlol
20:53.44ckknightthat brands them as cheats in my book
20:54.00Xinhuaninternet law is so so gray
20:54.10ckknightXinhuan, which means we'll be taking drastic measures to block them sometime
20:54.14Kaeltenthey advertise gold and powerleveling ads not only on their site but also inside their client
20:54.22ckknightblowtorches the WowMatrix headquarters
20:54.25Xinhuanhow close is CC to launch?
20:54.30Arrowmasterhas anybody disected their client recently to try and find better ways to block it?
20:54.31KaeltenXinhuan: close
20:54.37ckknight~soon
20:54.38purlfrom memory, soon is well before heat death, or http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon
20:54.42Chompersbig office vs blowtorch
20:54.44taledensadly I think that situation sounds a lot like the copyright/DRM issue
20:54.44KaeltenArrowmaster: I've done a lot of looking
20:54.45Xinhuanlaunching it will be pretty vital to kill it
20:54.48Chompersoffice wins
20:54.53taledenyou can't stop it technologically, they'll always find a way around it
20:54.56ckknighttaleden, actually it's a theft of services issue
20:55.04ckknighttaleden, we'll stop them technologically
20:55.14taledenI'll believe it when it happens :)
20:55.17taledenthey said the same about DVD encryption
20:55.19Arrowmasterit uses libcurl right?
20:55.19taledenand again about blu-ray encryption
20:55.27taledenand about every mp3 DRM mechanism to date
20:55.29taledenand have been wrong every single time
20:55.53thultwirssi!
20:56.11ArrowmasterKaelten: it uses libcurl right? does it parse javascript?
20:56.40taledenonly thing I can think of is requiring a captcha to download, and serving that captcha side by side with an ad from the same server, so you don't know which to block and showing the ad at least gets you some revenue
20:57.06Yheenwhy it gave no more update's for the wowace updater
20:57.35Yheenor it goes again
20:57.36Yheen?
20:57.43Kaeltentaleden: the more they do the circumvent our protection, the more they lend credence to our assertions that they're underhanded scoundrels
20:57.56taledenKaelten: unfortunately your assertions won't stop them :)
20:58.00AckisWorki'm an underhanded scoundrel but you still love me
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20:58.13taledenso long as they're convenient, users will use them, no matter how much venom you spread about them, and no matter hwo justified it is
20:58.33KaeltenArrowmaster: it is libcurcl
20:58.37Kaeltenlibcurl
20:58.48Xinhuanthe point is to make it as inconvenient as possible for wowmatrix
20:58.56Kaeltenindeed
20:59.11taledenyeah, but like DRM, your tradeoff is making it also less convenient for legit users
20:59.11Arrowmasteri was thinking javascript + captcha, have all download urls require a captcha but if javascript is enabled have a script to rewrite the url to a new url without a captcha
20:59.13Xinhuanwhich will make users stop using it (hopefully)
20:59.22taledento the point where, like DRM, you start shooting yourself in the foot and hurting your own revenue after awhile
20:59.50Xinhuanthat wouldn't really happen
20:59.58Xinhuanbecause there are only 3 major websites to download addons from
21:00.14KaeltenI honestly expect our next methods to be, while not impossible, beyond wowmatrix's skill set to combant
21:00.16Kaeltencombat
21:00.20Xinhuanat the end of the day, its about drawing visitors to your site
21:00.22taledenanyway I don't mean to dissuade you, if you believe it can be done, power to ya :)
21:00.27taledeni just wouldn't bet on it, if i were betting, is all :)
21:01.18Xinhuanand updaters itself is sort of "anti-advertisement" unless the client shows ads itself
21:01.22Kaeltentaleden: it's always possible to overcome any limitation
21:01.53Kaeltenxinhuan: the client will show ads to non premium users while it downloads to cover costs
21:02.05Xinhuani know that since last year Kaelten ;p
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21:02.14Yheenwhich updater you can recommend`? CC ?
21:02.33KaeltenYheen: considering I'm project lead on the new CC that's in beta atm i'd recommend it
21:02.40Kaeltenit's not perfect but I think it's getting pretty solid
21:02.47Yheenk
21:03.29Fisker-Then you are the guy i have to blame Kaelten
21:03.42KaeltenFisker-: feel free to voice your issues
21:03.45Yheeni read many post on the curse board about keylogger -.- i'm scared :D
21:04.01Kaeltenbut if they're not constructive i'll ignore you Fisker- :P
21:04.01Arrowmasterthere are none
21:04.22KaeltenYheen: I mean this nicely, but how fucking stupid would we have to be to put a keylogger inside the client?
21:04.37Yheen^^
21:05.10Kaeltenlol, just being honestly
21:05.12Kaeltenhonest*
21:05.23Xinhuanremember the ads in WAU did cause an issue once :)
21:05.32Xinhuannot WAU's fault though
21:05.37Kaeltenonce, and no it wasn't
21:05.38AckisWorkhello world is a key logger and Kaelten reply to your PM :P
21:05.41YheenI did not mean also it was
21:06.41KaeltenYheen: hehe, just tired of people saying that there is a keylogger in the client, or addons etc.
21:06.55BrunersKaelten: did you see my idea ?
21:07.21Kaeltennot sure
21:07.23BrunersKaelten: on #cf
21:07.39Kaeltenyeah
21:07.43Kaeltenand I'm playing around with a few idea
21:07.44Kaeltens
21:08.00HjalteBruners: Isn't it something like http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/tickets/59-improved-addon-description-in-the-client/ ?
21:08.33BrunersHjalte: yes
21:08.42Yheenthere many post therefore took I to the something true to it is
21:08.51Yheenbtw sry 4 my english ^^
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21:09.29BrunersYheen: i understood it all except 4
21:09.36jnwhitehXinhuan: http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_that_fire_during_the_loading_process#Character_Login updated to the best of my ability based on testing
21:09.44jnwhitehfeel free to offer suggestions
21:09.54Xinhuanlooking
21:09.54jnwhitehalthough I fly home tomorrow for my grandmothers funeral so I'll be offline for a few days.
21:09.55jnwhiteh=/
21:10.03Xinhuan:/
21:10.14Xinhuani know the feeling, mine passed away 2 months ago
21:10.15AckisWork~comfort jnwhiteh
21:10.16purlThere, there, jnwhiteh.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
21:10.22jnwhitehthanks
21:11.25Xinhuani think the changes look good. perhaps the V_L change should be a subsection by itself
21:11.45Yheennow I do not understand why it over it think in such a way I wowmatrix any more will not support
21:11.53jnwhitehfeel free to make that edit
21:11.57jnwhitehi'm gonna go start packing
21:12.27Kaeltenjnwhiteh: my well wishes to you and your family, mine passed during xmas break last year
21:12.51KaeltenYheen: the legitimate sites out there appriciate it
21:12.52jnwhitehThanks, that's mainly why I'm going home
21:13.11jnwhiteh<PROTECTED>
21:13.22Kaeltennods
21:13.30Yheendestroy wowmatrix :D
21:13.46KaeltenI understand that, my grannie had a staff infection for the last several weeks of her life, it was a good thing for her not to suffer any longer.
21:13.50jnwhitehI'm glad to be able to go home to spend time with the family tho, Mom and Dad are taking it pretty hard
21:13.58Kaeltennod
21:14.30Brunershow is wowmatrix gathering urls for where to download?
21:14.42Arrowmasterscreen scraping
21:15.30Yheencu guys, nice to meed u my raid start in a few minutes .... btw nice support ^^
21:17.02ckknightk
21:17.18ckknightBruners, download html, regex
21:17.23ckknightprobably
21:23.06Grumjust disallow by the useragent? ;)
21:23.10Arrowmastercant
21:23.17Arrowmasterit uses fake useragents
21:23.38Arrowmasterits got a list of a bunch of different real useragents that it fakes
21:23.44Brunerschange the url 5 minute
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21:23.58Grumthat one is actually quite easy to do
21:24.19Kaeltenone goal is to force them to have the files hosted themselves
21:24.22Bruners*every 5 minute
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21:24.25Arrowmasterwowmatrix loads the page and gets the download url from it before downloading it, changing the url every 5 minutes doesnt do anything
21:24.32Kaeltenthen I can file dmcas against their host
21:24.39VonhintenHOME`morning
21:25.08Grumlol wowmatrix doesnt have their own database?
21:25.15Grumbut they screenscrape on demand?
21:25.55VonhintenHOME`What's the story with libquickhealth/instant health/grid quickhealth/<insert quick health addon here> these days?  Are they obsolete?
21:26.19Kaeltengrum: unless they've changed recently aye
21:26.23ckknightlua> function escape_char(c) return string.format("\\%03d", string.byte(c)) end; function pretty(value) return return (string.gsub(string.format("%q", value), "([\001-\031\128-\255])", escape_char)) end; pretty("test")
21:26.24lua_botckknight: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near 'return'
21:26.29Kaeltenstops us from being able to ip block too
21:26.55ckknightlua> function escape_char(c) return string.format("\\%03d", string.byte(c)) end; function pretty(value) return (string.gsub(string.format("%q", value), "([\001-\031\128-\255])", escape_char)) end; return pretty("test")
21:26.55lua_botckknight: "test"
21:27.05ckknightlua> function escape_char(c) return string.format("\\%03d", string.byte(c)) end; function pretty(value) return (string.gsub(string.format("%q", value), "([\001-\031\128-\255])", escape_char)) end; return pretty("\200\240")
21:27.06lua_botckknight: "\200\240"
21:27.09ckknighthmm
21:27.24GrumKaelten: they can get around any blockage
21:27.45Kaeltenthis one is going to be intertaining to watch them try
21:27.54ckknightinfotainment
21:27.55Grumhehe what are you doing?
21:28.03Kaeltennot telling :)
21:28.17ckknightsecurity through obscurity for now
21:28.21Grumwill regular users notice it?
21:28.26Kaeltengrum: limitedly
21:28.40Grumi'd put a minimum delay from loading a unique link to downloading it
21:28.46Grumthey scrape as fast as possible
21:28.50Grumand then insta-download :)
21:29.16Grumregular users need at least 1 second .. that is 1 second you can force down their throats ;)
21:29.16Kaeltenthat's pretty hard to obtain parity
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21:29.25Grumyeah sadly it is :)
21:29.29AckisWorkchange the coding so that the stuff they're scraping now is a trojan or something, and the real link only legit users can dl it :P
21:29.48ckknightthat would be fun
21:29.50KaeltenAckisWork: we did something similart, they patched within a day
21:29.54Grumhaha that would be a cool solution :p
21:30.00AckisWorkKaelten: not with a trojan
21:30.07Kaeltenno we didn't with a trojan
21:30.08AckisWorkKaelten: and you can change yours day to day
21:30.16AckisWorkday 1 trojan
21:30.16AckisWorkday 2 donkey pr0n
21:30.18GrumKaelten: why not have a javascript hide all but 1 div; the proper div has the right download url
21:30.22Grumall the others give troyans
21:30.28Grumthen they'd have to parse javascript :p
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21:30.40ckknightalso could do it through css as well
21:30.45ckknightor both
21:30.51Grumor both/random
21:31.04ckknightwe don't really want to force javascript down people's throats if we can help it
21:31.15ckknightalso, we plan to make it so premium/authors won't deal with any bullshit at all
21:31.27VonhintenHOME`besides, the technology is out there to scrape current state
21:31.27Arrowmasterwhich is why i said captcha if javascript is diasabled
21:31.27ckknight...hopefully
21:31.32Grumdo it worse
21:31.35Grummake a flashlink ><
21:31.39AckisWork:P
21:31.44Grumo.O
21:31.48AckisWorkI gave bryan the ultimate idea
21:31.52AckisWorkackis++
21:31.55ckknighthmm?
21:31.57AckisWorkand I just reped myself
21:32.00ckknightdonkey pron?
21:32.05AckisWorkcreate unique addon
21:32.13Kaeltenwell the idea is to make it as technically hard as possible.
21:32.13AckisWorkloads in game and puts a message on the screen
21:32.15VonhintenHOME`Are they not a US company?
21:32.41AckisWork"You have downloaded this addon from wowmatrix.  They host trojans, ckeyloggers, etc"  and make the user click like 500x to get rid of it
21:32.47AckisWorkthen they'll be mad at wowmatrix
21:32.49AckisWorkand sutff
21:33.05ckknightthey're UK-based
21:33.21Chomperspoison their tea
21:33.24Chompersit's the only way
21:33.26ckknighthehe
21:33.27VonhintenHOME`No legal recourse in UK?
21:33.42Kaeltenno it uk it's some island in the EU
21:33.45ckknightwhat they're doing is theft of services, it's a gray issue
21:34.07Bruners<3 wowmatriz
21:34.09Grumi assume you put it in your 'rules' ?
21:34.25Kaelten?
21:34.45Grumthat you are not allowed to download from the site unless you actually visit the site?
21:34.46VonhintenHOME`And why is IP banning not possible?
21:34.58ckknightVonhintenHOME`, cause we can't tell WowMatrix from Firefox
21:34.58Arrowmasterbecause that would ban the user
21:35.03GrumVonhintenHOME`: because you canot recognize them
21:35.08VonhintenHOME`volume of hits?
21:35.24Grumthere is no way to see its them
21:35.28Grumother than the time between page-hits
21:35.42VonhintenHOME`unique IP hits / min?
21:36.04Grumwont work
21:36.34VonhintenHOME`why not?  Do they have 1000 IP's?
21:37.20Grumread back
21:37.22Grumyou are missing a lot
21:37.34ArrowmasterVonhintenHOME`: the CLIENT is the one going to curse
21:37.35Grumthey scrape the page from the clients pc
21:37.45VonhintenHOME`ah
21:37.54VonhintenHOME`I can't go back, I only joined the channel a few minutes ago
21:38.00Grumso other than having a 'short time' between the loading of the page and downloading there is nothing which 'gives them away'
21:38.45Vangualbanning requests coming too fast only gives em more time to display "please wait" ads ;)
21:38.54VonhintenHOME`Any idea what method of screen scraping they're using?  element positioning? named elements?
21:39.52VonhintenHOME`identifying text?
21:41.34Grumdoes their client update when you change stuff btw?
21:42.15VonhintenHOME`could always try the anti-bot graphic
21:42.28Grumright
21:42.40Grumand loose every single person downloading from curse
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21:43.00VonhintenHOME`lose them how?  I'd still download
21:43.35Megalonthe wowmatrix client can proxy anything to the user
21:43.49Megalonif curse makes a CAPTCHA
21:44.01VonhintenHOME`That's when your anti-bot graphic should start containing ads :)
21:44.39Grumi'd not download a single thing if curse starts with captchas before premium stuff :P
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21:54.25ckknightMegalon, at which point WowMatrix becomes a pain to use
21:54.45ckknightGrum, if you have a premium account, you shouldn't be getting captchas, hopefully
21:54.58ckknightI dunno, I'm not the one designing it
21:55.08Grumdid you guys try to normally contact them?
21:55.15kenlyricpremium accounts
21:55.30kenlyricbringing you basic web functionality!
21:56.21BrunersCAPTCHA being that silly image you have to type from ?
21:56.24Brunersthats never visible
21:56.38Megalonyea
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22:00.07Brunersluls, wowmatrix found 3 updates, curseclient 0
22:00.13kenlyricevery time I get one of tose I think, I an not a computer
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22:00.28kenlyricI am
22:00.34Brunersno wait, wowmatrix found 16
22:01.48HjalteBruners: If they are legit, you might want to check your per addon install type, it made my client not update some addons.
22:02.17Brunersnone where real updates, just different version names
22:02.38Brunersr407 instead of 407 etc
22:11.05Pneumatushasnt wowmatrix died in a fire yet?
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22:13.50HirsuteNo
22:14.01HirsuteIt's too hard to block and there are too many lazy users.
22:15.31DashkalI so wish I could just start gkicking the wowmatrix users in my guild *sigh*
22:15.34Repo10squire: 03Adirelle * r60 Core.lua: Fixed ticket #13.
22:15.40DashkalSadly, the GL might have a problem with that
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22:23.44Kaeltenlol
22:23.57Repo10visualheal: 03xbeeps 048.3 * r16 : Tagging as 8.3
22:24.01RepoPull most recent LibHealComm-3.0
22:24.20Brunerswhat was funny Kaelten ?
22:24.26Kaeltendash
22:25.28ulicFunkeh`: will your Deaths change fix this?  Or what am I doing wrong, I have reports the module doesn't deactivate, http://paste.wowace.com/222/
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22:26.23Arrowmasterulic: what is 'boss'
22:26.36Funkeh`I think you need to add a bit more debug statements to find where it's failing
22:26.56Funkeh`It could potentially be failing anywhere in that function
22:27.00Arrowmasteryou probably want to pass guid instead of boss
22:27.26uliclocal boss = BB["Constructor & Controller"]
22:27.33Arrowmasteryeah that wont work at all
22:27.51Repo10repairbroker: 03sonomus * r8 / (5 files in 3 directories): Sonomus:
22:27.54Arrowmasteryou need to pass more afaik
22:27.54RepoUpdated lib: LibTooltip-1.0 => LibQTip-1.0
22:27.58RepoPerformance fix: The inventory search is now done over time, reducing the tooltip spike.
22:28.00RepoThx to tnt2ray for the translations!
22:28.25ulichmm, cuase obviously I want it to say both names, not just the name from the guid that is in the file, as that is only one of the two.
22:28.26Funkeh`Arrowmaster has a sharper eye than me ulic
22:28.29Funkeh`but it still won't work
22:28.36Funkeh`you're using the old genericbossdeath
22:28.58Repo10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r53 / (2 files in 1 directory): Strategy refactoring
22:29.00Funkeh`self:BossDeath(nil, self.guid, true)
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22:29.19Funkeh`true if you want "have been defeated" instead of has
22:29.55ulicwill it put the boss value in their instead of the name from the guid?
22:29.59ulic*there
22:30.04Arrowmasteryes
22:30.12Arrowmasterit does self:ToString()
22:30.17Arrowmasterjust like the old one
22:30.27Arrowmasterthe name passed in was never used for the message
22:30.40ulicah ok
22:32.14Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r539 Howling_Fjord/Controller_and_Constructor.lua:
22:32.17RepoFix for ticket #5, module not disabling and announcing death
22:32.24Repo10repairbroker: 03sonomus * r9 RepairBroker.lua: Sonomus: Removed debugging code.
22:32.29ulicok, thanks guys.  I'll see if I can run tonight and make sure that works.
22:32.58Funkeh`ulic, show me your changed code
22:33.25ulicdoh
22:33.30ulicthat was wierd
22:33.42Funkeh`yeah that's pretty much it
22:33.47Funkeh`I assume it's 2 bosses?
22:33.51ulicyou got enough to see
22:33.54ulicyep, two bosses
22:34.03ulicso just need to wait for both to die.
22:34.42Funkeh`well the good thing is you only need 1 person with the working version to make it work for everyone
22:35.00Repo10repairbroker: 03sonomus 043.0.8 Beta1 * r10 : Tagging as 3.0.8 Beta1
22:35.44ulichmm, I thought I got some of the initial examples from R&J in kara, but I just looked and the file doesn't have a boss death, at least not any more.
22:35.56ArrowmasterR+J never did
22:36.01Arrowmasterit never worked
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22:36.37Funkeh`I know
22:36.46ulicah, I must have found an example else where.  That's just what I do when I'm not sure how to do something, try to find examples.  But anyways.
22:36.46Funkeh`I was going to implement an onupdate with checks
22:36.52Funkeh`but didn;t think it was worth the hastle
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22:37.42Funkeh`Rj was a pain in the ass
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22:39.37Gnarfozthe razuvious mod doesn't disable properly, btw, but of course I forgot to Transcriptor it :p
22:39.53Arrowmasterit should
22:39.59Arrowmasteror atleast it did last time i did naxx
22:40.02Funkeh`I didn't note anything unique about him
22:40.32GnarfozI didn't either, but still I always notice it still being active at Gothik :o
22:41.20Funkeh`weird
22:41.40ulicso, I've not raided naxx before, and will probably start 10man with my guild in the next month or so.  And we only ever did Kara in BC.  Do people usually start with a particular wing?  The first boss from each wing?
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22:41.55CrazyBennyyes, thats because after you kill him, it disables itself, but when you release the mindcontrolled add it enables again
22:43.00Gnarfozwhy would it do that :O
22:43.29Funkeh`The understudy is an enable trigger
22:43.31AckisWorkhmm
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22:43.39AckisWorkeverytime I blink my eyes go blurry
22:43.43AckisWorkI don't think that's good eh/
22:43.49Funkeh`buy glasses
22:43.53Gnarfozshould he be?
22:43.54Funkeh`stare at a screen less
22:44.03AckisWorkafter I stare for a moment it clears up
22:44.03GnarfozI mean, razuvious is "right there", too
22:44.08AckisWorkeye fatigue methinks
22:44.12AckisWorktyping with eyes closed ftw
22:44.12Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r244 / (11 files in 1 directory): - Fixed a few vendors to show up on the correct faction
22:44.13AckisWorkteheheheh
22:44.16Repo- Added a few more missing recipes and vendors
22:44.19Repo- Fixed the code to filter out single faction vendors correctly
22:44.22Repo- Removed the vendor "Morgan Day" from Wintergrasp
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22:51.50Tinyboomno coding now AckisWork :p
22:51.56Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys 04v1.2.2 * r245 :  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
22:51.59RepoTagging as v1.2.2
22:52.02Repo- Fixed a few vendors to show up on the correct faction
22:52.05Repo- Added a few more missing recipes and vendors
22:52.17Repo- Fixed the code to filter out single faction vendors correctly
22:52.32AckisWorkTinyboom: meh wouldn't make any difference :P
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22:53.26AckisWork~seen nemes
22:53.29purlnemes <n=nemes@217.216.24.164.dyn.user.ono.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 293d 22h 44m 9s ago, saying: 'I thought I was supposed to be able to see them'.
22:53.29Tinyboomhehe, good point :p (dry code pro - with closed eyes)
23:09.06Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1456 / (3 files in 2 directories):
23:09.09RepoFix acquire for tit tool box... heh tit and box in a commit note.
23:15.59ulichehe, he said tool.
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23:16.59PrimerYou know what would be cool? Some way to maintain the file description outside of the web site
23:16.59Arrowmasterckknight, Kaelten: whos responsible for the 30 second post delay on the forums
23:17.06ckknightKaelten
23:17.29Primerlike, when I push a tag out, instead of dumping the svn log, it'd pull the info from a file
23:17.41Primerthat's part of the repo, but hidden, like .pkgmeta
23:17.48Arrowmasteratleast it was in javascript and i could just spam submit
23:17.50Primeror something
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23:19.28ckknightPrimer: already possible
23:19.33Primerohhhh
23:19.36ckknightyou can do it through docmeta
23:19.44Primer.docmeta?
23:19.47Arrowmasterim having fun on the forums =D
23:19.52ckknightmake a file like Description.txt or Description.wiki or whatever
23:19.52Arrowmasterand probably gona get yelled at
23:19.57ckknightand then put that as a docmeta declaration
23:20.01Primerckknight: is that in the KB?
23:20.05ckknightof course it is
23:20.10Primeryou da man!
23:20.59Arrowmasterhttp://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=263929
23:21.04Arrowmasteranybody else want to join the fun?
23:22.03Primerhehe it's the top document in the KB, how convenient
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23:22.29ckknightdone, Arrowmaster
23:22.39Arrowmasterhaha
23:22.58Arrowmasterthis is a good day
23:23.12Arrowmasterjust because of that thread
23:23.18ckknighthehe
23:27.03AckisWorkhttp://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=258288&postcount=4
23:27.06AckisWorkthat's pretty win too
23:27.50Arrowmasterheh
23:29.03Primerckknight: The KB isn't very clear about how I would go about doing this for a file description, one that also includes the "known caveats" part
23:29.17Primerckknight: do you know of a project that implements this so I can copy it?
23:29.26ckknighttest-alpha
23:29.33ckknightoh
23:29.36ckknightyou mean changelog?
23:29.38ckknightah
23:29.38ckknightsorry
23:29.40ckknightyou can't control that
23:29.44ckknightyou can control the project's description
23:29.47Primerbah
23:29.50ckknightbut not a file's changelog
23:29.51ckknightsorry
23:30.34Primerevery time I tag a file, I have to go do this manually for both the file and the -nolib
23:31.39Arrowmasterwhy are you changing it?
23:32.13pompyAckisWork: you would be in a guild called <COX> lol.
23:32.18Primerbecause I don't want the svn log to be that text
23:32.33AckisWorkpompy: nothing wrong with my guild name :P
23:32.34Primerbecause I might have several commit between releases
23:32.42Primercommits, even
23:33.09Arrowmasterit lists more than just the last commit
23:34.27Repo10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken * r38 / (2 files in 1 directory):
23:34.30RepoAdded automatic key binding for last used item. Not complete but should work somewhat.
23:35.14AckisWorksounds the drums of war with Arrowmaster
23:35.16AckisWorkRAWR
23:35.20AckisWorkCHARGE
23:35.20AckisWorkAHHHHH
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23:35.22Arrowmasterhaha
23:35.54AckisWorkhe had the audacity to QQ about customer support... when he's stealing the addon basically?
23:36.07AckisWorkI've only gotten customer support for software I pirated once... and I felt bad about it
23:38.16Arrowmasterim almost tempted to put either that farlander quote in my sig or something from this thread
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23:38.33Kuja^heh
23:41.29Kuja^i'll bet he won't answer again :/
23:42.43HirsuteIt amazes me that the WoWMatrix thread is back/still on the first page of the UI and Macros forum.
23:49.29GreltokAnyone have advice on best practice for handling callbacks in the form table, string?  Specifically, should I resolve the function at registration time, or at invocation time?
23:51.05GreltokResolving at registration time allows for more error checking, but less flexible, as the function has to be defined at registration time.
23:51.46GreltokUltimately, as pcall gracefully handles a nil function, I suppose it's more academic.
23:52.19GreltokAlthough I suppose that the function could be resolved and cached at first invocation.
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23:56.14GreltokOf course, leaving it uncached allows an addon to redefine the function.
23:56.21taledengreltok: methinks if they give it as table,string it's because they want the flexibility of being able to, for example, change it after registration without re-registering
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23:56.25taledenso i'd resolve at call time
23:56.35taledenif they want it static, they can give you table.string in the first place
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23:57.10GreltokTrue, but they won't have it invokes as table:string.
23:57.15GreltokArgh.
23:57.19Greltoktable : string
23:57.21GreltokThrre.
23:57.23GreltokThere.
23:57.36taledenwell they have to give you the table in order to resolve it, right?
23:57.42taledenso then you just call it as table[string](table, ...)
23:57.58GreltokNo, I don't mean that.
23:58.05VonhintenHOME`So, LibQuickHealth, is it obsolete?
23:58.44GreltokWhat I mean is, if they register it as table.string, they can't have it invoked as table : string, as the callback doesn't know to pass table as the first parameter.
23:58.58ShefkiVonhintenHOME`: Yes and no.
23:59.19taledenso account for that :)
23:59.24Greltok*grin*
23:59.32taledenin libunitid I take registration as func,handler
23:59.38VonhintenHOME`Shefki, can you elaborate?
23:59.38taledenif func is a string, then it'll call handler[func](handler, ...)
23:59.44taledenif func is a function pointer, it'll call func(handler, ...)
23:59.45ShefkiGreltok: You can usually do: x(table,"method",...) or x(func,...)
23:59.51taledenif there is no handler, func has to be a function and it calls func(...)

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