IRC log for #wowace on 20090121

00:00.01ShefkiNo so much on my realm.
00:00.17NivFreakpeople are getting marks every 20-30
00:00.17NivFreakmins
00:00.17NivFreakand tons of honor
00:00.17WraithanAh is that it?
00:00.17ckknightToadkiller: I don't see the issue.
00:00.23NivFreakWraithan: yea
00:00.29NivFreakso basically
00:00.30Wraithanthey need to shut that shit down then
00:00.35NivFreakthe speed at which northrend crashes
00:00.39NivFreakis the speed at which your WGs are won
00:00.44Primer20-30 minutes?
00:00.48Primermore like every 3-5 minutes
00:00.49NivFreakand as more people find out they are getting buttloads of honor/marks
00:00.52NivFreakthey are flocking there
00:00.54NivFreakand accelerating it
00:01.03NivFreakthey need to just disable northrend until they fix it
00:01.07Primerit's like the walls are made of paper
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00:02.08Toadkillerckknight: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202271194&postId=144650995300&sid=1#374 read to the end
00:02.11ckknightoh, lol
00:02.14ckknightI'm reading the code
00:02.16ckknightI see the bug
00:03.01Toadkillerlol, did they not learn from the free loots pre patch that blizzard will just roll that crap back in a hot fix?
00:03.05WraithanOdd, the Autobar addon started working again
00:03.19WraithanBut there was no patch
00:03.22Wraithanhmm
00:04.14XuerianGreat so they completely fucked over secure animation.... And their solution doesn't even work?
00:04.23ckknightToadkiller: Moongaze is correct
00:04.32XuerianWhy couldn't they just work on the fix for lag and put the rest of the patch off till it actually worked -_-
00:04.32ckknightI don't have anything I need to add to what she said
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00:06.21SlikerHawk/wondering if they'll rollback all the servers since everyone's getting craploads of honor..
00:06.22ToadkillerWraithan: wtf autobar works for u?
00:06.28ckknightthey hadn't done any major lua changes in the last two iterations
00:06.41Dashkalhopefully they'll just nuke WG
00:06.44WraithanToadkiller: after this last northrend crash it came up just fine
00:07.07WraithanToadkiller: but it errored out the last couple times in a row before that
00:07.12DashkalI'd rather not have to redo my DK leveling I started.... done those quests too many times
00:07.16WraithanIt doesn't make sense to me
00:07.25Toadkillerckknight: Yeah I know he is right, ive been trying to get AutoBar working for last few hours and there is just no way to do popups anymore.
00:07.58Toadkillernext i am gonna try flaky popups with the standard onenter crap, but I cant even get the onleave to fire at the moment
00:08.18ArrowmasterToadkiller: you should be able to do it in the secure env
00:08.59ToadkillerArrowmaster:Yes, you are totally correct, but only in a theoretical sense.  In a practical sense Blizzard just removed all code that would actually make it work.
00:11.02WraithanToadkiller: northrend just went down again, I will let you know if AB is working for me when I get back in
00:11.32NeoTronToadkiller: my hunter kept one piece of "free pvp loot" btw. the offhand :P
00:13.35WraithanToadkiller: still working for me
00:14.08Repo10mill-help: 03Starinnia 041.1.0 * r34 : Tagging as release 1.1.0
00:14.25NeoTronhard to find the best bug bin this patch but this is good
00:14.34NeoTronmining a node can onyl be done once and gives you exactly one piece of ore
00:14.50ckknightwait, Toadkiller
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00:15.06Repo10considerater: 03catamorfizm 07master * 0.8.1beta-1-gd03a87f DefaultProfiles.lua: [+1 commit] ret pve, demon, and warlock pre-raid default profiles
00:15.16Daemonawait wait NeoTron wasnt it supposed to hit once loot all and not hit once loot once ?
00:15.31XuerianNeoTron: Seriously? Only one piece? Any node? WTF?
00:15.38NeoTronyep
00:15.43NeoTronit's buggy
00:15.44ckknightToadKiller: if ( type(animTable.updateFunc) == "string" ) then animTable.updateFunc = frame[animTable.updateFunc]; end
00:15.48NeoTronlike half the rest of the patch
00:15.57Xuerianson of a bastard monkey
00:16.07NeoTronI'm relaying this from a friend who's in the game
00:16.08XuerianI was trying to level my engineering/mining too
00:16.11NeoTronI havent' tested myself
00:16.24XuerianWTB Warhammer trial, pst
00:16.30Daemonaso, a good chance we dont see a patch in the next 12h on the euro servers? ^^
00:16.39XuerianDaemona: pray that you don't
00:17.11XuerianI bet americans who hate obama just love the double shaft they took today XD
00:17.21DashkalI'm betting a week of hell and 3.0.9 next tuesday...
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00:17.26Daemonawouldnt bother me much anyway .... writing semester finals from 10am-6pm ... whoever made that schedule deserves a slap
00:18.11NeoTronI think they need to fricking patch this before next tuesday
00:18.24NeoTronmaybe start by using the build they had on the PTR instead of this mess
00:18.31DashkalI'm not entirely convinced they can short of an out of cycle downtime
00:18.58Dashkaland I _really_ doubt we'll see that
00:19.22Xinhuanhello
00:19.27Dashkalmwrarf
00:19.30Xinhuanwhats' up
00:19.35Dashkal3.0.8 is hell
00:20.41NivFreakthis might be worse than 2.0 was
00:20.43NivFreaklol
00:20.53Xinhuanwhy
00:20.57ToadkillerWeird, all of a sudden, by simply removing the old timer code, Autobar works.  Very creepy
00:21.20Xinhuanwhat's up Dashkal
00:21.21DashkalXinhuan: many of the new features don't work correctly.   Looks like they made a bad patch (this isn't the PTR build just moved over)
00:21.23NeoTronXinhuan: where to start... none of the warlock changes are actually in except Ritual of summoning having a cooldown
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00:21.34NeoTronand it still just summons one person
00:21.35Xinhuano_O
00:21.37NeoTronmining a node gives you one piece of ore
00:21.45NeoTronwintergrasp victory crashes northrend
00:21.48DashkalDKs can be rolled on... some servers
00:21.51taledenthe druid changes appear to be in at least
00:21.55ShefkiHmm did someone delete AuldLangSyne from wowace?
00:21.56ToadkillerDont get me wrong, I am not complaining, but something working by just removing code is ... unnerving
00:21.56NeoTronobliterate generates 0 rp
00:21.58NivFreakXinhuan: there's a huge list of bugs, but my personal favorites are the crash everytime WG ends (which restarts the event) and the lack of RP regen for DKs main abilities
00:22.06Xinhuanwhat about addon related stuff?
00:22.34XuerianXinhuan: Secure frame animation got it up the pooper
00:22.41NivFreakXinhuan: my addons seems mostly ok
00:22.43XuerianXinhuan: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202271194&postId=144650995300&sid=1#374
00:22.56Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r736 AutoBarButton.lua:
00:22.58Repo-- Apparently, removing code makes things work more better.  Creepy.
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00:25.04ckknightToadkiller: nvm, I'm wrong, you're referring to a different function
00:25.06Xinhuansigh let me install the patch first
00:25.22Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.47 * r178 : RaidBuffStatus:
00:25.24Repo- Tagged as stable.
00:25.36Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r737 AutoBarSearch.lua: -- nfi how this worked b4.
00:25.49Arrowmasterwe'll also have to test out LoD
00:25.54DashkalI so love commit messages like that...
00:26.07ckknightso true, Dashkal
00:26.10NivFreakNeoTron: when did army of dead stop taunting raid bosses?
00:26.22thulI think I have to get a dominatrix lady to tape herself wagging her finger at me and shouting "GO TO BED!"
00:26.26thulautoplay on my machine each evening at about 23:30
00:26.28Arrowmasteryou should have seen my bugfix commit to librockevent a while back
00:27.15thulthat had a dominatrix Arrowmaster ?
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00:27.20NeoTronNivFreak: it did?
00:27.20Arrowmasterno
00:27.25NivFreakNeoTron: it did at launch
00:27.31NeoTronI mean it stopped?
00:27.34NivFreakyes
00:27.39NivFreakyou can use it on any boss mob now
00:27.39DashkalArrowmaster: ROFL
00:27.40NeoTronit's good for dps, bad for "oh shit"
00:27.41NivFreakthey do not taunt
00:27.41Dashkalnice
00:27.58NeoTronnice for extra patchwerk deeps :P
00:28.06NivFreakyea
00:28.18NeoTronof course I don't deeps, I tanks
00:28.18NivFreakWe'll verify tomorrow
00:28.45Dashkal*reads diff* ROFL
00:29.05ArrowmasterDashkal: are you looking at my commit or Toadkiller's?
00:29.08NeoTronI predict it'll take an hour to get everyone into Naxx between crashes
00:29.10DashkalArrowmaster: yours
00:29.15Dashkalsvn log, svn diff ftw
00:29.17Arrowmasteryeah perty stupid huh
00:29.35NivFreakNeoTron: it's ok, you can summon one person in every 2 mins
00:29.40NivFreakfrom org
00:30.06WobWorkzomg
00:30.11WobWorkno taunt on AotD?
00:30.16WobWorkThat's no fun!
00:30.29NivFreakWobWork: apparently just on bosses
00:30.32WobWorkIt was much more amusing to pull that out in heroic VH
00:30.33Dashkalreads more
00:30.36NivFreakbut I haven't personally verified it yet
00:30.36WobWorkoh good =)
00:30.38DashkalOk, that is REALLY bizarre
00:30.51WobWorkCygnosia would go utterly batshit crazy and spin around randomly
00:30.59DashkalNice bug, Arrowmaster.
00:31.00NivFreaklol
00:31.07WobWorkand basically wipe the party with her breath weapon =)
00:31.42axxmanyeah, that's what I remember about it lol
00:32.20Toadkillerckknight: Same function, except theres the api we get that wraps the internal one.  the wrapper enforces a string parameter simply naming the callback, the internal function expects an actual func.  Doh!
00:32.23Xinhuan[2009/01/21 08:31:04-8664-x1]: IPopBar-3.04\IPopBar.lua:105: CreateFrame(): Couldn't find inherited node "SecureHandlerShowHideTemplate"
00:32.26Xinhuanoh wtf did they do
00:32.36NeoTronah so the sparks are rootable on malygos still but they despawn
00:32.42ckknightToadkiller: yep, I see
00:32.56NeoTronso the first spark will despawn if still alive by the time the third spark approaches
00:33.05ckknightToadkiller: issue is that it doesn't do if ( type(animTable.updateFunc) == "string" ) then for postFunc
00:33.10XinhuanNeoTron, huh
00:33.36ToadkillerXinhuan: yeah lol all that stuff got booted in the patch.  Its a freaking miracle that AutoBar works at the moment.  AutoBarTest was blowing chunks on the PTR this morning still
00:34.31ToadkillerBasically show / hide and all timed callbacks were removed since they got abused for automation
00:35.37CrazyBennyhaha, I'm wondering if this is true http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14498231255&sid=1
00:35.39XuerianToadkiller: How/when? I never heard/saw a use of it, and for that matter, somthing like glider seems much easier to get for people inclined to
00:35.41Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r738 / (2 files in 1 directory): -- Some fixes for the patch.
00:36.45NeoTronXinhuan: you can't stack sparks indefinitely. need to use them or lose them
00:36.56NeoTronoh this one is godo too - people are getting insta-hearthed automatically
00:37.30Xinhuanthe achievement is changed to 6 min apparently
00:37.31Xinhuanup from 5
00:37.37NeoTronyeah
00:37.38thulhttp://fc27.deviantart.com/fs41/i/2009/020/3/7/cold_winter_by_HannahHavoc.jpg <- cute
00:37.45NeoTronit's probably a change to make it less necessary to stack druids
00:37.46NivFreakNeoTron: from?
00:38.01NeoTronfrom? from what?
00:38.06NeoTronalso Necrosis now does 1 damage. always.
00:38.13NivFreakNeoTron: seriously? wtf
00:38.16NivFreakon the sparks
00:38.23NeoTronsparks despawn after a time
00:38.27NivFreakNeoTron: and what is the auto-hearthing
00:38.28ckknightthul: I'd tap that
00:38.37ckknight...keep the hat on
00:38.56NeoTrona couple of people posted that they get sent to their hearth point automatically
00:38.56NivFreakin what case?
00:38.59NeoTronhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14498291038&sid=1
00:39.05thulckknight:)
00:39.08NeoTronno case, just do
00:39.20NeoTronlike they are out questing and all of a sudden teleported to their inn
00:39.22NeoTronor something
00:40.20NivFreaklovely
00:40.35NivFreakso 6 min malygos hrmmm
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00:44.44Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth 04v3.00.08.15 beta release * r739 : Tagging as v3.00.08.15 beta release
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00:49.32PrimerI think blizz in now really finally taking the realms down
00:49.39Primercan't connect to mine now
00:49.45Primerthis after the 12th WG :)
00:50.53doom0ri just logged two accs in on US
00:51.06Primeror not
00:51.11Primerjust got in
00:51.17ckknighthmm... so anyone know how to get "Set Focus" to work with unit frames' right click menus? I was told there was a way with WoW 3.0.8
00:51.39NeoTronso I just realized something combine frequent world server crashes with 2 minute cooldown on summon and you get a potentially really fun start delay for raids
00:51.56doom0rckknight: slap anyone that wants it and tell them to bind a key
00:52.08ckknightI'd prefer not to
00:52.24onaforeign|Zzzplayermenu
00:52.34onaforeign|ZzzI think
00:53.25ckknightcan't find it with grep
00:53.55onaforeignshorebut I've just woken up - so don't take me seriously for at least another 30 minutes :p
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00:54.28NivFreakNeoTron: this is why we don't raid on tuesdays :)
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01:02.37Arrowmasterckknight: if it doesnt work then ignore it for now, the patch is completely broken anyway
01:03.21ckknightokay then
01:03.25ckknightgz, Blizz
01:03.33ckknightyou win at failing
01:05.25Repo10failboat: 03sylvanaar * r43 lib/includes.xml:
01:05.28Repoim not sure what's wrong with the libfail .pkgmeta. but just update the lib/includes.xml to point to the lib.xml
01:06.16gixmeh, why did they change the sparks? sounds retarded.
01:07.00Repo10libfail-1-0: 03sylvanaar 041.0b1 * r34 : Tagging as 1.0b1
01:07.43Arrowmastersylvanaar: libfail-1-0 has a .pkgmeta?
01:07.51sylvanaarno
01:08.02sylvanaari have been drinking
01:08.06Arrowmasterok
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01:08.25sylvanaarshould be "libfail in the .pkgmeta"
01:08.56Arrowmasterlooks fine to me other than i think you have some tabs in there
01:09.45Primerseems blizz has finally acknowledged that there's an issue with WG crashing realms
01:09.52sylvanaarthe zip looks ok
01:09.59sylvanaartime for beta
01:10.12NeoTrongix: likely to remove the need to stack druids
01:10.24NivFreaklet's hope
01:10.24NeoTronPrimer: orly? no kidding? :P
01:10.27Repo10failboat: 03sylvanaar 041.0b1 * r44 : Tagging as 1.0b1
01:10.55NivFreakhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14498161183&sid=1
01:11.04Arrowmasteroh man something really broke
01:11.26sylvanaarwhere
01:11.44Arrowmasterim logged in then disconnected after a bunch of fataility sounds
01:12.24ckknighteep
01:12.34NivFreakArrowmaster: haha
01:12.35XinhuanArrowmaster, for me, what broke is they removed show/hide secure handler wrapper
01:13.04Xinhuanand my entire guild is doing Higher Learning now
01:13.08Xinhuanwith the crashes
01:13.16sylvanaaryeah
01:13.17sylvanaarlol
01:13.21sylvanaarthats like the one good thing
01:13.34doom0ri'm just glad they pulled that crap so things like opie are broke now
01:13.49doom0r<end sarcasm>
01:14.24NivFreakXinhuan: hahaha
01:14.56IndustrialXinhuan: what? crashes? broken addons?
01:14.58Industrialdo tell
01:15.05Xinhuanwintergrasp vistory crashes northrend
01:15.10Industriallmao
01:15.11Xinhuanvictory
01:15.16Xinhuanand when it comes up its a new WG
01:15.22Xinhuanso, crashes every 20 min basically
01:15.40NivFreakmultiple people can read the books for a few mins after they get read, right?
01:15.47Xinhuan3 min from first touch
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01:19.35DashkalGC: "We hope to hotix the UI soon." http://blue.mmo-champion.com/26/14498530941-howling-blast-cd.html <--- Uh, did they change something with how the UI works or is GC just on crack there?
01:20.15ShefkiDashkal: Well tooltips they can hotfix.
01:20.29ShefkiDashkal: Force a cache clear with a rolling restart.
01:20.29DashkalThose are localized strings.  I didn't expect that they could
01:20.35ShefkiAnd change the tooltip on the server side.
01:20.44ShefkiThough the tooltips were fetched from the server.
01:21.02NeoTronso there are new icons and graphics in the build so the bugs aren't an issue
01:21.04ShefkiThought*
01:21.23NivFreakNeoTron: there are lots of new animations though! :)
01:21.29NeoTronthat's what I meant
01:21.48NeoTronwho cares about server crashes when the health injector has a new icon
01:21.59Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth 04v3.00.08.15 beta * r740 : Tagging as v3.00.08.15 beta
01:22.00DashkalI like some of those new icons
01:22.06DashkalI can tell air and earth apart now :p
01:22.11NivFreakNeoTron: oooooo, does it?
01:22.13NivFreak;)
01:23.13NeoTronDashkal: I'm not saying icons are bad but mostly being sarcastic that it in some way forgives the crap they managed to put out :-/
01:23.23Dashkal:p
01:23.31NeoTronI don't get it how they maanged to make a build this bad after 5 years
01:23.32DashkalI was just commenting on the icons, ignoring the shit
01:23.35NeoTronor 4 years or whatever
01:23.48DashkalProlly just fucked up on pulling patches over
01:24.04Dashkaldoes happen, hopefully they can get a 3.0.9 FIX out very quickly
01:24.05NivFreakNeoTron: I suspect they have a large amount of new developers and process
01:24.06NeoTrona basic check of all the changes would have shown that lock summon didn't work for example
01:24.07Dashkalassuming they need it
01:24.12NivFreakNeoTron: and this is thier first real patch
01:24.17NeoTronbut look
01:24.25NivFreakmeaning, they suck at QA
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01:24.29NeoTronyou don't just pull patches over into the 'live" branch and make a build and release it
01:24.37NeoTronyou fricking test that build for a week
01:24.38NivFreakbad merge
01:25.08NeoTronit feels like "ok, ptr looks good, let's integrate" and they did and made a build and deployed to live without even basic testing
01:25.12NivFreakreally though, they just need to break this new habit of not updating the PTR with the builds they are testing
01:25.14DashkalNeoTron: _another_ week.  The pressure to get 3.0.8 out was likely pretty strong.  As it is they may as well have canceled it and gone directly to 3.1
01:25.17NeoTronobviously didn't test anything
01:25.25NeoTronDashkal: they should have doen that last week
01:25.29NivFreakNeoTron: you almost wonder if someone up top said SHIP IT OR GET CANNED
01:25.31onaforeignshoreunless your name is Blizzard and you have millions playing your games worldwide, in which case you let them test it for you and only fix it once they start complaining
01:25.38NeoTronit's blatantly obious that the live build wasn't QA'd at all
01:26.29Dashkalnope, and someone's in shit about now
01:27.27NeoTronI am a software developer so I understand bugs but...
01:27.30onaforeignshoreI read the release notes and I noticed the absence of any comment on the misbalance of damage / healing done between the classes... or am I the only one that feels that way?
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01:28.35sylvanaarhow should I put optdeps in my standalone libfail?
01:28.55DashkalNeoTron: no argument that they botched this release.
01:29.14sylvanaaror do i need a pkgmeta afterall
01:29.25Xinhuanwhat optdeps does it need
01:29.35sylvanaarlibstub and cbh
01:29.43Xinhuanhard embed both
01:29.55Xinhuanactually
01:30.04Xinhuanjust do what other libs do
01:30.10Xinhuanlibstub.lua in root
01:30.15Xinhuanyour libs in a subfolder
01:30.22NeoTronwouldn't surprise me if this is simply a partial merge
01:30.28Arrowmasterjust use .pkgmeta
01:30.32NeoTronand that a lot of the changes simply were not merged in from the ptr branch
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01:34.49Repo10libfail-1-0: 03sylvanaar * r35 / (10 files in 4 directories): code to support a standalone version
01:35.46sylvanaari think that should do it
01:36.49Mikk!serveralert eu
01:37.10Mikk!wowalert
01:37.16doom0r~wowalert
01:37.17purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
01:42.35Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar 043.0.1 * r195 : Tagging as 3.0.1
01:43.56gixfailpatch inc
01:45.27Xinhuan~framexml
01:45.27purlGet the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/
01:47.01CIA-63tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r5f69223 10/ Parser.lua : Ignore text in [brackets] at the start of the string when parsing guide title for zone name - http://tinyurl.com/7wwj8m
01:50.35onaforeignshorelol there wasn't even a beta version
01:51.44doom0rdidn't know gnomes' bears were larger than dwarves'
01:52.14Arrowmastergnome and tauren mounts are 125% of all other mounts
01:52.41Arrowmasterso anybody else having their mouse cursor not show up ingame?
01:54.28Arrowmasterhad to enable hardware cursor but its such a lower sensitivity
01:54.47ckknightArrowmaster: mine appears fine
01:54.57Arrowmasteryou're on a mac
01:55.19ckknighttrue
01:55.26ckknightsoftware cursor seems laggier to me
01:55.29ckknightshrugs
01:57.17Arrowmasteriron boot flask is still only 10 relics of ulduar
01:57.31Arrowmasterbut relics are nolonger bop
01:57.51onaforeignshoreckknight: I noticed that Blizzard uses camelCase for variables, PascalCase for functions, and SNAKED_UPPERCASE for constants - only dislike their () in if statements - too much whitespace for me - looks like I'm a Blizzard idiot then, cause I code the same (except for the () of course)
01:57.51ckknightokay, it's 8 PM, time to head home
01:57.57doom0rgg
01:57.58Kody-whoa!
01:58.05doom0rkungaloosh didn't count towards recipes
01:58.20ckknightonaforeignshore: yea, I hate the way their code is. It's probably just the way they do their C as well
01:58.22Kody-doom0r: it does, need to add that achievement to tracking for the count to update
01:58.24Kody-it's weird
01:58.46ckknightI use snake_case for everything non-public and CamelCase for everything public (methods, namespaces,  etc.)
01:59.12onaforeignshorecamelCase or PascalCase?
01:59.13ckknightI use snake_case for fields, though
01:59.18ckknightPascalCase
01:59.19ckknightmy bad
01:59.23doom0rthat didn't do anything for me
01:59.30ckknightokay, now I'm leaving
01:59.36onaforeignshoresee you in 5 minutes
02:00.56doom0rKody-: you weren't referring to NR cooking were you?
02:01.12Kody-oh
02:01.26Kody-no, was thinking you meant the x recipe achievement
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02:02.05NivFreakugg
02:02.11NivFreakI have to go get the ally ones now
02:02.26NivFreakthe last 3 I need iirc
02:02.55Arrowmasteri have 131 recipes and i havent bought a single one with tokens
02:03.16Arrowmasterer arl says i have 129 though
02:03.17doom0ri was at 159, learned kungaloosh and nada
02:03.23NivFreakreally?
02:03.28NivFreakI guess I should check mine then
02:03.29NeoTronI think it's nice to not care about stuff like that
02:03.54NivFreakit's something to do
02:03.58NivFreakwtf else are you going to do
02:04.27Arrowmasteri was at 130 before i learned it
02:04.38NeoTrontiem to go home and patch this mess
02:04.51doom0ralso didn't get credit for the dalaran cooking award i got today
02:04.51doom0rgg
02:05.23doom0rstatistics updated to 95, then rolled back next time i checked it
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02:06.12Arrowmasteri have 40 cooking awards and statistics says 40
02:06.52Arrowmasteri still need to find somebody to make a character on my server and get me the westfall chicken
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02:12.52doom0rno one puts it on goblin ah?
02:13.08doom0rusually people throw that up for like 5g
02:14.19doom0ronly costs 25c
02:15.23doom0rArrowmaster: make a post in realm forum WTB chicken feed
02:15.39Arrowmasterthat doesnt work
02:15.45Zhinjiowhat server arrowmaster?
02:15.47Arrowmasteryou actually need an alliance character
02:15.54doom0rworked for my southshore stink bomb quest
02:16.05Arrowmasterhuh?
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02:16.15doom0rgetting someone to go get it
02:16.25doom0rthey buy it, they sell it on goblin ah
02:16.30ArrowmasterZhinjio: burning legion us, but the servers kinda unstable right now
02:17.07Zhinjioyeah... along with all the other ones *grin*
02:17.16doom0rnope
02:17.25doom0rwe have essence of wintergrasp and are enjoying it
02:17.34ZhinjioI'll make one later tonight once my daughter is in bed
02:18.25RaydenUi hear northrend is kind of crashy
02:19.03XuerianKnow what makes raiding fun?
02:19.16XuerianNaxx lag + 30% packetloss spikes on my end
02:19.26RaydenUwe were supposed to do naxx right now
02:19.38quiescensyou could still do it
02:19.41quiescensyou just need to get there
02:19.42quiescenslol
02:20.09XuerianI get DCd about every 40s
02:20.13XuerianAnd I'm a healer -_-
02:20.29taledenif I have a handle from AceConfigDialog:AddToBlizOptions(), how do I use that to close the bliz options frame? (i.e. when my own is opened instead)
02:20.36taledenhandle:Hide() doesn't do it
02:20.39XuerianWhich also makes it awkward, if I reconnect in combat only the first unitframe per header loads.
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02:22.05doom0rhow early does the combatlockdown happen?
02:23.25Mikktaleden: you either don't do it, or close the whole blizzard frame
02:23.43Mikkbut why are you worried about the blizzard one being shown?
02:24.42taledenbecause mine is an aceconfigdialog window, having both up at once is.. ugly
02:25.22taledenso how do i close the whole blizzard frame?
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02:29.19HjalteAre Blizzard applying the patch to EU? From the changed server alert, I thought they weren't, but all the servers are down now.
02:30.18waallenThey are, there has been a breaking news since this afternoon
02:32.03HjalteYes, but they changed it 15 minutes ago and removed the notice about the patch.
02:32.28ArrowmasterXinhuan: fuck IsAddOnLoaded() is still fucking broken!
02:32.33waallenI doubt they wouldn't patch the EU client, it'd be a first
02:32.40Xinhuanwhat did you expect
02:32.58ArrowmasterLoadBug: main chunk: 1, 1
02:32.58ArrowmasterLoadBug: ADDON_LOADED: 1, 1
02:33.12Arrowmasterit ran my main chunk twice
02:33.16Arrowmasterlol
02:33.39Arrowmasterif that bug regressed its going to be even worse
02:34.02Xinhuanhow does your main chunk get run twice
02:34.35Arrowmasteri call LoadAddOn("LoadBug") in the main chunk
02:34.49Toadkillerimo there should be an AceCinfigDialog callback to Close() whatever it has open.  Having a dialog toggle open but cannot close is lame.
02:37.21Arrowmasterhttp://www.wowace.com/paste/175/
02:37.24Arrowmasterthats my test case
02:37.55Arrowmasterunless its chatter messing with it, the old bug is back in a slightly less harmful but still harmful way
02:38.36ShefkiWell they failed to fix the lag.
02:38.56ShefkiI'd say this patch has done pretty much nothing but make me seriously consider canceling and doing something else with my time.  /sigh
02:42.03Zhinjioalright Arrowmaster, lemme see what I can do
02:42.30Arrowmasterwintergrasp is about to start, i predict server crashes
02:42.31RaydenUthe patched buffed me by 9000ac
02:42.40RaydenUnorthrend crashes every 10 on mine apparently
02:42.43quiescensgrats
02:42.43Zhinjiowell, shit.
02:42.47Zhinjioyour server is lcoked
02:42.48RaydenUdungeons are fine
02:42.54RaydenUseeing if i can get in a raid
02:43.12Zhinjiofortunately, I don't need to go to northrend
02:43.16Zhinjio262 queue
02:43.28Arrowmasterhaha
02:43.31Arrowmasterbad day to try it
02:44.06Zhinjionods. my guild is raiding, I'm bored.
02:44.26Xuerian"Fine"
02:44.35Xuerian"Fine" is not the word I'd use to describe nax
02:45.20doom0rZhinjio: you can't make a char if there's a queue
02:45.41RaydenUbest way to get exalted with silvermoon? all the quests?
02:45.59doom0rloremaster
02:46.26Zhinjiohahahaa
02:46.37Zhinjiowhy isn't your LDB icon showing up on my minimap!
02:46.45Zhinjio(recent ticket filed against my addon)
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02:50.09quiescenslol
02:50.23quiescenstankpoints breaks when I have a 6 charge bone shield
02:52.45Repo10vanas-ko-s: 03xilcoy * r333 modules/LastSeenList.lua:
02:52.47RepoRemoving some debug prints I accidentally left in the lastseenlist
02:54.58Arrowmasterdid they disable wintergrasp?
02:55.18Zhinjioblue post said that was in progress on affected realms
02:55.24ZhinjioI don't know any that weren't
02:55.40doom0rours has been fine
02:55.48Zhinjiolow pop?
02:55.56doom0rlol, no
02:55.57Arrowmasteri think i crashed or something
02:55.58doom0rmanno
02:56.19Arrowmasteri hear the sound of my mounts wings flapping but i cant alttab into the game
02:56.45doom0rdirectx win?
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02:57.48Zhinjiook, I'll try later when there's no queue. I'm at the character creation screen now
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03:08.50pompy1so its possible to get the 'chef' title now eh?
03:13.34doom0rwith tons of northern spices
03:13.50doom0rfish feast is 450 skill
03:16.06pompy1and they said they made it easier to level cooking
03:16.11ckknightso instead of handwritten suicide notes, do people make suicide blog posts? how about suicide tweets?
03:16.18doom0rthey did
03:16.25doom0rthey also did it wrong
03:16.35doom0rsmall feast and fish feast are still yellow at 439 for me
03:16.42doom0rwas 437 according to wowhead
03:16.45doom0rer
03:16.49doom0rsmall and gigantic
03:16.57doom0rbut those are useless
03:17.32doom0rckknight: webcam
03:17.42ckknightyea, I've seen those
03:18.22ckknightwhen an heroing, make sure to stream it
03:25.40RaydenUyou can't reset BC heroics can you?
03:27.46pompy1no
03:28.01doom0ronce a day, like your suppository
03:29.19RaydenUyou can
03:29.19RaydenUbut no boss
03:29.19RaydenUthat sucks
03:30.04Arrowmasterfucking awesome i login dead in the barrens graveyard!
03:33.23RaydenUhas anyone crunched numbers on the swipe, maul idol for the new kitty swipe?
03:35.18pompy1Arrowmaster: whered you dc at?
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03:35.27Arrowmasternorthrend
03:35.32pompy1haha yeah..
03:35.38pompy1that's happened to me b4
03:35.42TorhalBest patch EVAR.
03:35.46pompy1I think I swam from nr to barrens
03:35.46Torhaltwitches.
03:35.47Arrowmasterflying around somewhere between icecrown and wintergrasp
03:36.13TorhalYou can't swim between continents
03:36.45pompy1well all I know is I alt tabbed while autoswimming, and I then was in the barrens gy
03:36.52chiperhas anyone seen a link to a post-3.0.8 arcane spec for mages?
03:37.16doom0rno, we're still on 3 0 8 unfortunately
03:37.20TorhalMeans you probably died while swimming, and northrend crashed
03:37.26Repo10item-level-dkp: 03ddumont 06gimpedguild * r39 libs/: dunno why these are checking in....
03:37.30chiper-.-  you know what I mean
03:37.41TorhalOnly place you could spawn at that point is Xroads
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03:38.09NeoTronlol so
03:38.22NeoTronserver with queue => change realm => pick same realm again and you bypass the queue
03:38.25NeoTronnice bug
03:38.30TorhalNiice.
03:38.52TorhalThey'll probably fix that by disabling realm switches if you're in a queue.
03:38.54TorhalHeh.
03:40.36Dark_Elfdang lots of errors in bugsack now
03:41.21Arrowmastercheck load out of date addons
03:42.25Dark_Elfyeah a few of them are but a few were newer addons
03:42.42doom0r~lart Dark_Elf
03:42.42purlputs on some milking gloves. "All right, now, Dark_Elf, this won't hurt a bit...."
03:42.56Dark_Elfouch
03:43.21doom0rcheck load out of date addons
03:43.47Dark_Elflooks like a few more older cartographer modules are gonna get axed this time
03:44.04Dark_Elftreasure and fishing
03:44.30Dark_Elfitemsync
03:47.15Dark_Elfsilverdragon was good addon, now it got error, guess i will hose it to
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03:54.16Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r45 newui.lua: api change
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03:59.04Repo10vanas-ko-s: 03xilcoy * r334 modules/PortraitContextMenu.lua:
03:59.06RepoI finally discovered a "safe" way to add items to the player context menu. I
03:59.08Repothought 3.0.8 was supposed to have fixed this issue in particular, but it
03:59.11Repodidn't make a difference. Hooking UnitPopup_ShowMenu works though.
04:03.04chiperoh sweet hot momma, arcane is good again
04:03.24chiperdoes a little dance
04:10.11Repo10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme * r7 EggTimer.lua: EggTimer:
04:10.13Repo- update LDB feed with nearest perishable expiry (using AceTimer-3.0 now)
04:10.16Repo- announce when items expire (AceTimer-3.0 + LibSink-2.0)
04:10.19Repo- use OnInitialize for LDB/FuBar setup (no more PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD)
04:10.21Repo- minor optimizations
04:10.56Repo10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme * r8 .hgtags: Added tag v0.3 for changeset c40e9913eab6
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04:15.44ckknightso looks like I need to put a check for WowMatrix.dat in the commit hook for the repo
04:17.50Brunersaddin support for wowmatrix on cf ?
04:20.39Torhalckknight: People hwo are writing addons are updating their own shit with that garbage program?
04:20.46Torhals/hwo/who/
04:21.04ckknightBruners: wtf, no
04:21.11Arrowmasterckknight: we told you that a long time ago
04:21.13ckknightTorhal: yes
04:21.19Torhaltwitches.
04:21.23ckknightArrowmaster: I figured authors would be smart
04:21.25ckknightI was wrong
04:21.29Arrowmasterthey arent
04:21.30Brunersand good mornig btw :P
04:22.00Brunersckknight: wowmatrix.dat does what?
04:22.11ckknightit's a wowmatrix metadata file
04:22.19ckknightbut we have an official policy of hating wowmatrix
04:22.32Brunersyeah, i know that
04:22.54Arrowmasterand its not suppost to be there anyway, its auto generated by wowmatrix afaik
04:23.01TorhalIt is
04:23.14TorhalSo the people are overwriting their own shit.
04:23.20TorhalOr they're not the original authors.
04:23.28ckknightno, just ignorant
04:23.47Arrowmastershould auto project delete on that hook
04:23.50TorhalHeh
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04:32.44Repo10vendorsearch: 03adriweb * r36 / (2 files in 1 directory): update 1.91
04:33.44Repo10vendorsearch: 03adriweb 04v1.91 * r37 : Tagging as v1.91
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04:41.41BrunersTekkub: do teknicolor store data beteween sessions ?
04:42.59rapidgamei have a RegisterForDrag("RightButton") on a frame, that shouldn
04:43.14Repo10breakables: 03Parnic * r14 Breakables.lua:
04:43.18Repo- fixed disenchantable items to show up properly (bypassed the 5-count limit for disenchantables)
04:43.19rapidgame'... shouldn't conflict with titanbar right? (if anyone knows titanbar?)
04:43.20Repo- theoretically made the mod work for someone who has a combination of the 3 breakable tradeskills
04:43.22Repo- added parsing to save the enchanting skill level of a player once their enchanting trade skill has been viewed at least once
04:43.25Repo- added toggle to choose whether or not to display soulbound items for enchanting
04:43.41amoebaHrm. Unable to create new Texts in the latest PB4.
04:45.28rapidgamebecause titanbar has a rightclick dropdown menu, the RegisterForDrag("RightButton") shouldn't conflict with that, correct?
04:49.55Torhalrapidgame: You're registering on YOUR frame.
04:51.19Arrowmasternobody here knows titan anyway
04:51.36rapidgameTorhal: um, think so haha - barFrame:RegisterForDrag("RightButton") - unless titanbar also has a frame called barFrame, should i add MyAddon_ infront of the frame name?
04:51.52rapidgameArrowmaster: more that i just suck at lua in general, and you guys know lua haha
04:51.56Brunersi have never ever used titan
04:52.31rapidgameBruners: same here, just someone reported having issues with my addon and titan
04:52.52Torhalrapidgame: Using "local barFrame" should suffice.
04:52.59TorhalThat's local to your file.
04:53.36rapidgamelocal barFrame = CreateFrame("Frame", "Pillager_barFrame", UIParent) - that all good?
04:53.44TorhalYup.
04:54.03rapidgameTorhal: cheers dude, i always make silly mistakes like those ;-)
04:54.29TorhalPractice. And reading. All will (hopefully) eventually be well.
04:54.31ckknightprotip: don't anthropomorphize your cancer
04:55.12rapidgameckknight: that word's to big for me!
04:55.43TorhalDon't talk about it like it's alive.
04:55.55TorhalOr humanistic.
04:56.27rapidgameTorhal: if i make barFrame local, then do i need to do the same for items like this - mini_perhourMoneyL = barFrame:CreateFontString(nil,"OVERLAY","GameFontWhite"), since barFrame is already local, do i still need to mae mini_perhourMoneyL local?
04:56.46rapidgamehaha, i hated english - far to pedantic for my liking ;-)
04:56.53Arrowmasterprobably
04:57.04TorhalYou need to make anything you don't want public as local
04:57.22TorhalBasically: Don't pollute the global namespace unless you really need to.
04:57.36rapidgameArrowmaster: so it doesn't become local because the barFrame in "barFrame:CreateFontString" is local?
04:57.53Arrowmasterit does not
04:57.59rapidgamecool thnx!
04:58.02TorhalIt's a completely separate variable.
04:58.14TorhalIf not declared as local, it's global by default.
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05:14.35RaydenUany of you hit exalted with a horde faction around lvl 30?
05:15.01Ackis@project arl
05:15.03RepoAckis: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Jim-Bim (Author), Zhinjio (Author), Elkano (Tester), Dessa (Translator), Pettigrow (Translator), Swix (Translator), andy52005 (Translator), Primaxina (Translator), ananhaid (Translator), Pneumatus (Translator). Updated: 5 hours ago. Tickets: 7/324
05:16.00ArrowmasterRaydenU: tranquillen
05:16.08RaydenUother than that
05:16.09RaydenUa major one
05:16.17RaydenUcause it is apparently possible
05:16.25Brunersback when i was level 30 you didnt get rep
05:16.33RaydenUremember Chen's Empty Keg?
05:16.49RaydenU18.5 rep for each turnin
05:17.20Arrowmasterthats a fucking bitch to do though
05:17.23RaydenU:D
05:17.28RaydenUyeah
05:17.30Arrowmasterdoes it still give rep at 80 now?
05:17.36RaydenUi dunno
05:17.44RaydenUi'm doing the silvermoon right now
05:17.44Ackiswheee heroic twilight assist roflz
05:17.51RaydenUa couple thousand into revered
05:17.56RaydenUi'm considering just buying runecloth at this point
05:18.03Arrowmasterav would be faster
05:18.06RaydenUscrew the last few quests
05:18.11RaydenUhow much does AV give compared to runecloth?
05:18.20Brunersdepends what you hand in
05:18.23NivFreak~seen orionshock
05:18.29purlorionshock <n=chatzill@ip68-225-195-1.ph.ph.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 20h 56m 7s ago, saying: '...'.
05:18.29RaydenU?
05:18.30Brunersblood thing is +75 horde ?
05:18.37Bruners*faction
05:18.40RaydenUoh, are these the AV quests?
05:18.53Brunersthe summon super duper giant thing
05:18.59Brunersgives shit loads of rep
05:19.05RaydenUoh nice
05:19.07RaydenUi can get rep fast
05:19.13RaydenUand piss off my entire team in the process
05:19.14RaydenUawesome
05:19.15RaydenUi'll do that
05:19.32Brunersand you get rep for all the other handins aswell, but blood gives most
05:20.19Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r131 / (2 files in 2 directories): -- Thread added to result mats or something
05:22.30Ackis~api getiteminfo
05:22.45purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_getiteminfo
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05:32.42ckknightwhen I grow up, I wanna be an FLDS prophet
05:34.51Brunerswtb self shopping fridge
05:36.15ckknightmeh, I don't mind shopping at Target
05:36.39Brunersmore that i forget buying what i need
05:37.34ckknightI just go between aisles, pick out what looks tasty
05:39.31AntiarcWelp.
05:39.37AntiarcSomeone went and invented hell.
05:39.39Antiarchttp://www.xsharp.org/
05:40.48Shefkistabs eyes out with a spoon.
05:41.00ZhinjioAntiarc!!
05:41.10AntiarcYo
05:41.16Zhinjionow I just need to remember what questions I wanted to ask you
05:41.34Zhinjiocries.
05:42.31Brunersthe patch is only 56mb ?
05:42.38Melikaeyeah
05:42.48amoebaBugs don't take up as much space as content.
05:42.54amoeba(zing)
05:43.01Melikaethey didn't fix anything... just managed to break locks even more...
05:43.25Brunersi just hope they fixed my death knight to be even better
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05:59.12Fisker-lolwtf
05:59.18Fisker-They blocked login @ maintanence?
05:59.20Fisker-fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu
05:59.55MelikaeThey shut down the european forums as well -.-
05:59.58robotuschno FFFFFUUUUUUUUU
06:00.06Repo10vanas-ko-s: 03xilcoy * r335 modules/PortraitContextMenu.lua:
06:00.09Repo- Fixed a bug growing the size of the player context menu each time the module
06:00.10Fisker-Fuck you it's a library
06:00.11Repowas enabled/disabled.
06:00.21Repo- Added the context menu to raid and party windows.
06:00.21Fisker->:3
06:00.27robotuschand you know why it's FFFFFUUUUUUU tiems?
06:00.34robotuschhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/jan/20/internet <- because of that
06:01.03Fisker-WHY WHOULD ANYONE MAKE NEWS ABOUT THAT?
06:01.33robotuschsee
06:01.47Fisker-stop! An hero tiem
06:01.54ZhinjioArrowmaster: Im in ur alliance, steelin ur chickenz
06:02.22Arrowmaster....
06:02.28Arrowmasterbut im doing a quest chain
06:02.40ZhinjioI need to get through the early DK stuff anyway
06:03.23Arrowmasterwait you made a DK on burning legion?
06:03.29Zhinjioyes
06:03.32Zhinjiodraenei
06:03.32Arrowmasterfucking sweet
06:03.36Arrowmasteryes yes yes
06:03.52Arrowmastercan i send you around to collect some cooking recipes too?
06:04.00Zhinjionods.
06:04.21Arrowmasterill whisper you wowhead links for the recipes
06:05.01Zhinjiosounds like a plan
06:06.37Repo10ipop-bar: 03Xinhuan * r71 IPopBar.lua:
06:06.39RepoA bunch of secureheader stuff to workaround the loss of SecureHandlerShowHideTemplate and control:SetTimer(). You can no longer control hover out time. Popup bars will now disappear immediately on mouse out.
06:06.42RepoDelayed-close menus and action bars are now off-limits until the next patch, if even that. See http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202271194&postId=144650995300&sid=1#374 post 374-380 for details.
06:07.01WobWorkrobotusch: Well it -is- a blog
06:07.09WobWorkthus has no redeeming content or value
06:07.18WobWorkespecially a blog on a newspaper site
06:07.44ShefkiWobWork: Some blogs are actually rather useful.
06:08.02ShefkiGenerally people blogging about the work they do as opposed to what type of toilet paper they use.
06:08.07robotuschyeah, but still
06:08.12robotusch.. it's Boxxy >_>
06:08.26ShefkiFuck Boxxy.
06:10.53Repo10ipop-bar: 03Xinhuan * r72 / (3 files in 1 directory): Update version to v3.05
06:11.27Repo10ipop-bar: 03Xinhuan 04v3.05 * r73 : Tag v3.05
06:11.50Xinhuansometimes, i hate blizzard so so so so so much
06:12.01ckknightBoxxy?
06:12.21Fisker-ckknight my enemy
06:12.30ckknights/enemy/soulmate/
06:12.35Fisker-true
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06:15.47WobWorkShefki: majority of the newpaper blogs have no worthwhile content at all
06:15.54WobWorkcause if they could write anything of any worth
06:15.57WobWorkthey'd be writing articles
06:15.59WobWorknot blogs
06:16.34Fisker-Due to Wintergrasp issues affecting realm stability, the Battle for Wintergrasp has been temporarily disabled on all realms. We’re actively working to resolve this issue and we’ll provide an update as soon as it becomes available
06:16.34Fisker-damn
06:16.38Fisker-a shame it isn't PERMANENT
06:17.07Brunersjust don't go there?
06:17.12robotuschI thought they had reversed that again?
06:17.28Repo10procodile: 03Zarnivoop 043.0-13 * r80 :
06:17.31RepoCooldowns/aura bars options are now defaults only. Tracking stacking buffs and aura refreshes. Removes auras now if prematurely removed (dispell or whatever).
06:17.39robotuschHow could http://mmad.dk/wow/WoWScrnShot_012009_202023.jpg possibly make an entire realm unstable :(
06:17.54Repo10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm * r20 / (2 files in 1 directory): MorgBid2
06:17.54ShefkiFisker-: To which he later replied and said they h adn't actually disabled it yet.
06:17.55robotuschDo note the pro doubled up BoK and DS buffs
06:17.58Repo-fixed combat lockdown toggle not doing anything
06:18.42Shefkierr nm.  Guess they really did disable it now.
06:19.51Fisker-That's what you get
06:21.22Repo10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm 04v2.1 * r21 : Tagging as v2.1
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06:21.32NivFreakorionshock: zomg
06:21.39NivFreakorionshock: you are not on my happy list today
06:21.41Fisker-orionshock is awesome
06:21.42Fisker-oh
06:21.45Fisker-then he sucks
06:21.58NivFreakorionshock: making addons that spam me with popups saying to update, yet having no updates == lame
06:22.09orionshock...sorry
06:22.47NivFreakorionshock: it's ok, I love guildcraft, just update it! :)
06:23.02orionshockbout to.. infact just taged it.. but i forgot to load up in game
06:23.39NivFreak<3
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06:23.52NivFreakless spammy updates warning imo
06:23.57orionshock... Fisker- are you ok?
06:24.01quiescenswarning~
06:24.04Fisker-I'm never ok
06:24.06orionshockNivFreak: .. well it's one way to get ppl to update :)
06:24.09Brunerswhy span at all ?
06:24.17Bruners*spam
06:24.27NivFreakorionshock: assuming you have the update in place :)
06:24.35NivFreakorionshock: instead everyone in the guild disabled it
06:24.50orionshockmeh
06:26.48chiperoh that was fucking awesome.  we're charging in to kill sartharion, and suddenly the dragon gets really small.
06:26.48orionshockim checking now on that tag i just made... >.>
06:27.11chiper"did the dragon just shrink?"  "oops, sorry, i accidently used baby spice on him."
06:27.34Arrowmasterbad thing to do on certain bosses
06:27.59chiperprobably, but it was so surprising we were all cracking up
06:28.44robotuschshould have used Old Spices, might have done something about his bad breath as well
06:28.52orionshockok NivFreak it is updated...
06:28.57Arrowmasterlike cthun, never shrink cthun
06:29.01Arrowmasterever
06:29.05orionshockgranted due to patch day, might take some time to recache all that data
06:29.08robotuschaww, why not?
06:29.55chiperdoes baby spice actually effect the hit box/range?  I thought it was just ascetic
06:30.00Arrowmasterit makes the eye beam graphic smaller but the actual radius doesnt change
06:30.02chiperasthetic
06:30.06Zhinjioorionshock!!
06:30.09Zhinjiohmm.
06:30.12ckknightaesthetic
06:30.16robotuschwould be OP if gnomes could use it in pvp
06:30.16Zhinjionow wtf was I going to ask you about.
06:30.37orionshockthat problem with JC & SOCD?
06:31.01Zhinjiooh yeah!
06:31.01Zhinjiowow
06:31.13Zhinjioyou're psychic and actually read your forums.
06:31.16orionshockhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/sick-of-clicking-dailies/tickets/6
06:31.17Zhinjioor something
06:31.19Zhinjiogrins.
06:31.24orionshocki watch tickets
06:31.26Zhinjiotickets/forums. you know.
06:31.30Zhinjiothank you.
06:31.43ckknightdid the patch just totally gimp druid shifting? the models don't load for me until like 30 seconds after I shift
06:31.49ckknightonce they load the first time, it's fine
06:31.59orionshockZhinjio: like i said in the ticket, im not a JC... so if you want it fixed i need to know what the problem is.. your going to have to debug it on your own :|
06:32.33Zhinjioij'
06:32.35Zhinjioer, ok
06:32.45Zhinjiodo you look for a particular name of quest
06:32.47Zhinjioor questid?
06:33.07Zhinjiothe quest name has the word "Shipment: " in front of it
06:33.08orionshockNPC's are id'ed byt GUID, the quest by Localized Name
06:33.19Zhinjiodoes it look for that?
06:33.25Zhinjioor just Wicked Sun Brooch?
06:33.42orionshockya, full and proper quest name "Shipment: Wicked Sun Brooch"
06:34.08Zhinjioalright
06:34.09Arrowmasteryou could use questid and just set each one on a tooltip and extract the name from the tooltip
06:34.10AntiarcAnyone aware of mods that provide Overkill timer bars?
06:34.16ZhinjioI'll see if I can figure it out
06:34.47orionshockArrowmaster: that would involve a onUpdate tooltip scanner
06:34.52Arrowmasterno it wouldnt
06:34.57orionshock...im not that talented tho i would love it :)
06:34.58ArrowmasterOnTooltipSetQuest
06:35.23orionshockis that called after the tooltip is populated with data or before?
06:35.30Arrowmasterafter
06:35.37Arrowmasteritem is both
06:35.45Arrowmasterbut i dont think quest does the before
06:36.12Repo10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 123f1ef / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
06:36.13Repo123f1ef: force a portrait update on UNIT_PORTRAIT_UPDATE
06:36.16Repo829da7d: bugfix with setting a bar position
06:36.21Fisker-slaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout
06:36.24Arrowmasterdeffently something i would branch for
06:36.29ckknightno, Fisker-
06:36.40waallenGogo castbar now!
06:36.46orionshockwell Arrowmaster i have a excell table of all the questID's
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06:36.50ckknightwaallen: ?
06:36.54orionshocki would certainly provide that to ya
06:37.06Arrowmasterwhy are you expecting me to do this?
06:37.27waallenSneakly hinting at the castbars not filling up :D
06:37.40ckknightoh
06:37.41ckknightokay
06:37.56orionshockim not... i passively got the impression it was something you /might/ do..
06:39.39Fisker-goodbye ckknight
06:39.42Fisker-sweet prince
06:39.45ckknightcya later, Fisker-
06:40.46syerenckknight, is there any easy way to distinguish the changes made with each update of Pitbull?
06:40.50syerenList is far too long :<
06:41.10ckknightno, the changelog is kinda fucked up that way
06:41.25ckknightI plan on changing that sometime
06:41.32syerenAh, you fixed the POrtrait thing I mentioned :D
06:41.38ckknightwhich portrait thing?
06:41.46syerenorce a portrait update on UNIT_PORTRAIT_UPDATE
06:41.48syerenI think.
06:41.57syerenLike if I changed my gear, my portrait would retain my old gear.
06:42.00syerenUntil I zoned somewhere.
06:42.03ckknightyea
06:42.05ckknightokay
06:42.27syerenWTB Party Target Highlight!
06:43.09ckknightyea, I saw a ticket about that
06:43.10ckknightI accepted it
06:43.22ckknightyou can get me to do it for like ... $50
06:44.01syerenI'm not donating that much :<
06:44.07syerenIt is probably simple for you to do!
06:44.25amoebaShh. You'll make his price go up to $75.
06:45.47ckknightamoeba's right
06:46.56amoebaWhile we're pestering ckknight: Do you have any interesting in making PB4 layout's able to do a columnar layout like [Health][Portrait][Power]? Recent changes have made this a more near reality but it's not there yet.
06:47.09ckknightyou could actually do that now
06:47.14nevcairielmorning
06:47.19amoebaI couldn't make it do it correctly.
06:47.23ckknightwell, if health and power were vertical
06:47.32ckknightdo you mean in rows?
06:47.36ckknightor columns?
06:47.39amoebaColumns.
06:47.45ckknightyea, you can do that now
06:47.51ckknightstick em all on Side = left
06:48.02amoebaI think I wasn't doing all to left.
06:50.06ckknightI demand treats!
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06:50.49Repo10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 5c561a0 Modules/ManaSpark/ManaSpark.lua: [+1 commit] Make ManaSpark work with the DruidManaBar.
06:51.28rapidgameif i define a local variable in a function is it only used inside that function?
06:51.36Repo10considerater: 03catamorfizm 07master * 0.8.1beta-2-g587e3f3 Core.lua: [+1 commit] DURIDS CAN HAZ POALRMS!!!!
06:51.43ckknightrapidgame: yes
06:51.51ckknightlocal means local to the current scope
06:52.04ckknightwhether that be a file, a function, an if statement, for loop, do block, etc.
06:52.17rapidgameso i need to create frames in the main code, not within a function
06:52.29ckknightno, not necessarily
06:52.33ckknightyou could do
06:52.39ckknightlocal yourmom
06:52.54ckknightfunction f() yourmom = "I did her last night" end
06:52.57ckknighttada
06:53.37ckknightall lua lessons are cleverly disguised your mom jokes
06:54.13syerenAre you enjoying developing PB4 ckk?
06:54.15rapidgameat the moment i have a create frames function which is called OnInitialize, i then change the text in these frames from within other functions (OnUpdate etc), so should i just define the local frame names in the main code, and actually create them within my create frames function, or should i create them in the main codeline
06:54.19Arrowmasterthats not clever at all
06:54.33rapidgameckknight: lol
06:54.36Xinhuanyes, rapidgame, that is recommended
06:54.45rapidgameXinhuan: thanks!
06:54.46ckknightsyeren: it's alright
06:54.46Xinhuanyou can do either of your suggestions
06:55.08rapidgameXinhuan: which one would you do haha?
06:55.23ckknightsyeren: and sometimes it's fun to implement features, but not ones that people want implemented, because it makes them squirm
06:55.30Xinhuanit makes little difference whether you create your frames in ADDON_LOADED (which ace3 uses to call OnInitialize()) or in the main chunk
06:55.30ckknightit's like, they can see me working on it
06:55.34ckknighthoping I do theirs next
06:55.36Xinhuanunless your addon is spread across several files
06:55.37ckknightbut I won't
06:55.40syeren;)
06:55.40Repo10considerater: 03catamorfizm 040.8.2beta * 67cf2c1 /: [new tag] tagging second revision to eighth beta
06:55.46ckknightknow what I mean, syeren?
06:55.48ckknight:P
06:55.52Xinhuani have addons that do both
06:56.09Arrowmasterif you already do it oninit just keep it that way
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06:56.18syerenI imagine my suggestion is in a queue, I don't expect it to get pushed to the front :p
06:56.32rapidgameXinhuan and Arrowmaster: so i'm just going to define them outside of my functions :-)
06:56.37Xinhuanit doesn't really matter much
06:56.47MelikaeTalking about Pb4.... will we be able to import our Pb3 settings?
06:56.47Xinhuanmore of a preference/style question
06:56.48ckknightsyeren: I don't really have a queue, just a list I pick what I feel like from
06:56.54ckknightMelikae: absolutely not
06:57.08Xinhuanckknight, that's called a priority queue ;p
06:57.19Xinhuanwhere your queue is sorted by "how much you like it"
06:57.27ckknightXinhuan: yea, but the priority is "what do I feel like working on today?"
06:57.33ckknightthings shift around
06:57.40Arrowmasteror "how much am i getting paid to do this"
06:57.53ckknightMelikae: DB structure changed too much, as well as the whole layout system has made it nearly impossible to write a good import
06:57.59Xinhuanhmm its been 40 min
06:58.03Xinhuanand my tag hasn't updated to curse yet
06:58.09ckknightArrowmaster: yea, but I really don't get paid for it
06:58.12ckknightXinhuan: yea, I know.
06:58.15Xinhuani don't think its supposed to take THAT long
06:58.17Arrowmasterdid rps break the sync again?
06:58.18ckknightXinhuan: curse has an issue
06:58.24ckknightArrowmaster: possible, not sure what broke it
06:58.34ckknightand thanks to the way our company's structured, I have absolutely no way to find out
06:58.36ckknight*thumbs up*
06:59.16Xinhuancurse issues like these are the reason why people want to move away from curse :<
06:59.19Melikaeckknight: hmm, k then I'll just continue to copy my old layout into the new PitBull as soon as I finish the university work on my queue -.-
06:59.20ckknightdon't think that I don't think it's a fucked up situation
06:59.37ckknightMelikae: don't trust queues.
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06:59.41ckknight(protip)
06:59.43Xinhuani don't think you can copy haha
06:59.48Melikaewtb someone to do my university work
06:59.58ckknightMelikae: they have services for that nowadays
07:00.07ckknightoutsource your work to random Indian folks
07:00.10Melikaelol
07:00.42Xinhuanyeah unless your homework is handwritten, they won't know the difference
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07:01.41rapidgameMelikae: what do you do @ uni?
07:01.42amoebaCan't change Font on Texts>Combat text.
07:01.52ckknightamoeba: k, lemme check it out
07:01.58Melikaerapidgame: Business Informatics
07:02.08amoebaThanks. Resizing works fine.
07:02.42rapidgameMelikae: *looks up on wikipedia*
07:02.46Melikaelol
07:03.52rapidgameMelikae: I'm thinking of doing computer sci this year
07:05.15Melikaerapidgame: I like the combination of informatics and business stuff, neither get's too hard nor too boring xD
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07:06.12rapidgameMelikae: It actually sounds like something i'd be quite interested in, but i think the only do information systems here.
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07:07.30Melikaerapidgame: Yeah, it was pretty hard to explain it to my american relatives ^^ They did know all the parts it consists of but not as a combination
07:08.49rapidgameMelikae: it's a shame, BI sounds like a more useful degree lol
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07:09.19ckknightinformatics sounds like a buzzword
07:10.28Repo10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * e7861cd / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] allow modules to actually override texts properly.
07:11.26Arrowmasterhas anybody tested relogging on a flying carpet this patch?
07:11.31Melikaeckknight: Yeah, BI is a direct translation and isn't really good but there was a pretty long discussion how to translate "Wirtschaftsinformatik", as none of the known combinations of Comp Science and Business Science did really fit
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07:12.52MelikaeArrowmaster: I wish my server was online again :( Still half an hour until I have to leave for work *bored*
07:13.13Arrowmasterlooks like its been changed to a non vehicle mount
07:13.59WraithanAnyone know of a good dps addon for Fubar or LDB, easily reset just personal dps is fine
07:14.00Arrowmasterlol i got too close to the ground and its going 200% now
07:14.44amoebaInformatics may be a buzz word but it's the name of a few professions and a handful of degrees.
07:14.55BrunersWraithan: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/picodps.aspx
07:15.49Repo10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * d9d58ef Main.lua: [+1 commit] Make :RunOnLeaveCombat when you just entered combat but not in lockdown yet. (still inside the PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED event). This fixes automatic turning off of config mode.
07:16.23WraithanBruners: thanks
07:18.03syerenGoddamnit ckk, now you actually have me paying attention to Pitbull updates :<
07:18.14ckknightlol
07:18.17ckknighthow come?
07:18.24WraithanOh, I will be a co-author on ShockAndAwe finally tomorrow once the main author adds me, should be tonight or tomorrow morning
07:18.45syerenWaiting to see if and when the Party Highlight thing gets added, I've become far too used to it unfortunately :<
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07:27.59Brunersdo i understand the select(i,...) correct if select(3, GetItemInfo(1337)) shows itemName, itemLink and itemRarity, the first 3 returns of that functions?
07:28.10ckknightno
07:28.16ckknightit returns the third and everything after
07:28.29ckknightlua> select(3, 'a', 'b', 'c', 'd', 'e')
07:28.30lua_botckknight: c, d, e
07:28.56Brunersclose but no sigar
07:28.57Bruners:P
07:29.02amoebaDon't you mean...
07:29.21quiescensheh
07:29.24amoebalua> select(2, 'something', 'your', 'mom')
07:29.24lua_botamoeba: your, mom
07:29.50MikkI am passing this on to you because it definitely works, and we could all use a little more calmness in our lives during the working season.
07:29.55MikkBy following simple advice heard on the Dr. Phil show, you too can find inner peace. Dr Phil proclaimed, 'The way to achieve inner peace is to finish all the things you have started and have never finished.'
07:30.09MikkSo, I looked around my house to see all the things I started and hadn't finished, and before leaving the house this morning, I finished off a bottle of White Zinfandel, a bottle of Bailey's Irish Cream, a package of Oreos, the rest of the cheesecake, some Doritos, and a box of chocolates.
07:30.12MikkYou have no idea how freaking good I feel right now.  
07:30.15MikkPass this on to those whom you think might be in need of inner peace.
07:30.21amoebamoans
07:30.41Arrowmasterrofl
07:31.12MelikaeMikk: If I finish all those bottles of booze I started earlier I won't be able to feel anything anymore...
07:32.08Brunerslua> select(3, 'a', 'b', 'c', 'd', 'e', 'f')
07:32.08lua_botBruners: c, d, e, f
07:32.23rapidgameMelikae: haha, i already finished off all my JD an hour or two ago - now im out of booze
07:32.59rapidgameckknight: what was the math again for amount of booze required?
07:33.07ckknightit varies from person to person
07:33.23rapidgameckknight: fair enough
07:33.37ckknightsome people weigh more, require more booze
07:33.41ckknightconverse is true if you weigh less
07:33.50ckknightif you have a grown tolerance or a natural tolerance, that also affects it
07:34.19rapidgameckknight: well, yes - we must take into account the tolerance, or intolerance...
07:34.32rapidgameckknight: what about food consumed?
07:34.38Melikaerapidgame: it's 08:30 am here, so no booze for me (yet), but bringing JD on the way back from work sounds like a good idea
07:34.41ckknightoh yes, also a major factor
07:34.50ckknightwithout any food, your body absorbs the alcohol far faster
07:35.30ckknightI'm really skinny and tend not to eat much
07:35.31rapidgameMelikae: haha, downed the JD at 5:00pm - tad too early, now im out...
07:35.53ckknightI have a pretty good tolerance, though
07:35.59rapidgameckknight: that was the case for me as well, didn't eat much - but im 75kg, so average body mass
07:36.09ckknightI'm about 55kg
07:36.20Bruners55!?
07:36.22ckknightor something around there
07:36.24ckknightlemme check
07:36.35ckknight59kg
07:36.45rapidgameckknight: whats your height lol? 55kg is pretty light
07:36.45MelikaeoO
07:36.50ckknightI was 55 when I was last in German class :-P
07:37.11ckknight177cm, rapidgame
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07:38.03Gu1airfeels short
07:38.12ckknightwhat?
07:38.22ckknightthat's like 5'10" in metric, right?
07:38.29ckknightslightly above average
07:38.29rapidgameckknight: well im 186 so you're by no means short
07:38.52Camcihes a dwarf kuy
07:39.04Camci:p
07:39.12ckknightoh well
07:39.13Gu1airi am 170
07:39.15Melikae<- 188 and no comment about my weight xD
07:39.16ckknightI make up for it in dick size
07:39.20Gu1airso yes im short
07:39.27Camcilol
07:39.39Camcithats all that matters
07:40.09Brunersthe smaller you are the bigger your dick looks
07:40.19Gu1airthats true
07:40.22Brunersunless its really tiny
07:40.25ckknightit also helps if you have a big dick
07:40.38Melikaetrue
07:40.47Gu1airi never had woman complaining
07:41.23Camcithats what they all say
07:41.32ckknightI have, Gu1air
07:41.49Camcime too, when i passed our after drinking a half bottle whisley
07:41.51Brunersi dont pay them to complain
07:41.52rapidgameckknight: lol
07:41.52Camciout*
07:41.59ckknight"oh my God, pull it out, it's too big"
07:42.06ckknightreally, it's annoyin
07:42.08rapidgameckknight: i could see that coming
07:42.09ckknightannoying*
07:42.10ckknightbut don't worry
07:42.13ckknightit fit in eventually
07:42.41Brunersthe legal age is still 18 in the US right?
07:42.48ckknightvaries from state to state
07:42.52ckknightstate I'm in is 16
07:42.54Camci16 on some states
07:43.10the-golemFlorida >.<
07:43.22ckknightI'm in Alabama
07:43.22ckknight:P
07:43.24the-golem(thats the only one I know)
07:43.49ckknightthough the state laws are funky here
07:43.54ckknightage of consent is 16
07:44.03ckknightbut a judge declared that all girls below the age of 18 are "innocent"
07:44.10ckknightand "innocent" girls don't have the ability to consent
07:44.14ckknightso I don't fucking know
07:44.20Camcithere is no innocent girl
07:44.24ckknightI don't go after high school chicks anyway
07:44.25Camciits just lies
07:44.27ckknightCamci: truth
07:44.32the-golemThere are some funky stipulations sometimes, like. Consent is 16, if the other person is less than 3 years older
07:44.41Camcidid you read about the 22 year old female virgin?
07:44.43Tigerdyrckknight: erh.. contradictory to the max?
07:44.48ckknightyep
07:44.50Camciwho is auctioning her virgin?
07:44.54the-golemYeah
07:44.57ckknightCamci: lol
07:45.03Camciover 10k bidders and 3.8 million dollar big so far...
07:45.03the-golemlast I heard it was like 2.7 million
07:45.12Camcinah 3.8 now
07:45.15Camci>.<
07:45.29the-golemshe goes to CSU Sacramento
07:45.40the-golemlocal whore >.<
07:45.47Camcihttp://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,480037,00.html
07:46.03Camciif tahts her then shes hot atleast :p
07:46.14Camcitho u only see face
07:46.16Camcishe can be fat
07:46.18the-golemLMAO
07:46.21the-golemin Nevada
07:46.25the-golemloophole
07:46.45Gu1airseriously
07:46.55the-golemHmmmm
07:46.56Gu1airwho is the looser that wants to pay money
07:47.24Camciprostitution is legal in nevada so ye i guess :p
07:47.30the-golemWhen someone wins, she hasta be checked out by a doctor
07:47.46Cheadsyou always pay.. normally a beer or flowers are enough =)
07:47.54nevcairielif that is the real picture, how the hell did she get to 22 as a virgin? =P
07:47.59Camci3.7 million tho, jesus.
07:48.07Camciid go fuck a goat for that money
07:48.11nevcairiellol
07:48.37Brunerspeople who bid that amount of money got insane amounts of them
07:48.58rapidgameCamci: hopefully they pay by check haha
07:49.03Camcihaha
07:49.05rapidgames/check/cheque/
07:49.21Brunersbut, how can they be sure she is virgin ?
07:49.22Camci:p
07:49.31the-golem"...this priceless and rare commodity..."
07:49.33the-golemlol
07:49.49rapidgamethe-golem: as if she's storing oil up there
07:50.01the-golemexactly
07:50.04rapidgamethe-golem: i'd go drilling
07:50.17the-golemlawl
07:50.51Brunersprostitution laws are silly
07:50.52rapidgamewait, how did to convo get to this haha?
07:50.55Groktarcurls up in the-golem's lap and goes to sleep
07:51.09rapidgamehaha, you started this ckk!
07:51.11the-golem"One time only she will appear at the bunny ranch and give up her virginity to the highest bidder"
07:51.14Repo10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 6834b40 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add Sounds module, which plays sounds when you gain PvP, or when you gain/lose target/focus.
07:51.17ckknightwhat did I start?
07:51.18the-golemOnly once? You sure abuot that?
07:51.37the-golems/abuot/about/
07:51.38ckknightBruners: the hymen would still exist
07:51.55Brunershymen ?
07:52.02the-golemIts like ...
07:52.21rapidgameBruners: hahaha!
07:52.23the-golemthe seal on a can of jelly. If its broken, don't buy it
07:52.30Repo10addon-loader: 03Ammo * r75 Conditions.lua:
07:52.32Repoadd ZONE_CHANGED to the X-LoadOn-Zone conditions for better support of subzones
07:52.52rapidgamethe-golem: that analogy fits surprisingly well
07:53.02ckknightlol, the-golem
07:53.10the-golembows.
07:53.12silentiumorionshock: ping
07:54.11Brunersi don't really see the difference between buying drinks for a random chick to get that one night stand in box and paying a profesional to do it with, that also has been checked by doctors.
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07:54.19the-golemCoincidentally, if you forget to put the lid back on the jelly, it dries out and gets all crusty
07:54.24ckknightBruners: I have them buy me drinks
07:54.34ckknightyou shouldn't be buying drinks for girls.
07:54.44Brunersi don't
07:54.47the-golemNoone likes rock hard jelly
07:55.07the-golemshuts up
07:55.27ckknightthe analogy went too far, the-golem
07:55.32rapidgamethe-golem: way too far
07:55.49rapidgameimages... in.. my.. head...
07:55.50ckknightit'd be more like
07:55.57ckknightthis jar of jelly is half-empty
07:56.01ckknight...and has herpes
07:56.09rapidgameckknight: ffs
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07:56.22the-golemlmao
07:56.24ckknightyes, rapidgame?
07:56.29the-golemI couldn't help myself
07:56.55Brunersif i for some reason wanted to sell my ass, why shouldnt i be allowed to do so
07:57.03Xinhuanwow new blizzard/rain of fire animation
07:57.06Camciwhich reminds me of that chick doing world record of blowjobs and giving out free blowjobs which ppl could "apply" on her website or something
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07:57.27Camcithink it was about 10k blowjobs? :p
07:57.48ckknightlol
07:57.52BrunersXinhuan: got a video ?
07:58.00Xinhuanget a mage/lock to cast one
07:58.08Brunersservers are still down here
07:58.15rapidgameCamci: got a video ?
07:58.22XuerianAll targeted cast time aoes now have it
07:58.24Camcilol
07:58.24XuerianBosses and all
07:58.29Camcino dont have video
07:58.31XuerianIt's just like the DND
07:58.34Camciit was many years ago
07:58.42XuerianDeath and decay, you know the big rune on the ground?
07:58.45silentiumI'm not sure I'd want a woman blow me if she just had 10k other guys in her mouth before me
07:58.46pompyXinhuan: Pyroblast looks different too
07:58.55Camcii do remember that she always had this err, "doctor" with her
07:59.00Camcithat texted the guy first
07:59.00CamciXD
07:59.02Camcitested*
07:59.10XuerianThe rain of fire "rain" looks a lot better, itself. It also crashes into the ground
07:59.11Camciif he was clean that is
07:59.12Camci^^
07:59.21rapidgameckknight & the-golem: haha, try to analogy-ise that ^^
07:59.21Arrowmaster[Ammo]: GetAddOnMetaData() automaticly supports localization in X-* right?
07:59.33MelikaeCrap, if they keep on pimping animations my PC is gonna die :((
07:59.48ckknightArrowmaster: afaik, yes
07:59.54MelikaePoor old XP3200+, think I gonne get me a new one next month...
08:00.01the-golemouch
08:00.09Arrowmasterpff ive got an XP3000+
08:00.27the-golemJust don't let him come at you with one of those foot long q-tips
08:00.32the-golemthe doctor that is
08:00.32ckknightI think I'm done hacking on pitbull4 for tonight.
08:00.43Repo10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r166 / (3 files in 1 directory):
08:00.45RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
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08:00.51RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
08:00.55Repo10libbabble-inventory-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r70 / (3 files in 1 directory):
08:00.57RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
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08:01.03RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
08:01.08Repo10libbabble-talenttree-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r17 / (3 files in 1 directory):
08:01.11RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
08:01.15Repo10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r179 / (3 files in 1 directory):
08:01.16Arrowmasternevcairiel: make sure all the babble libs are toc bumped to 30000, i know one of them wasnt the other week
08:01.19RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
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08:01.25nevcairieli fixed that yesterday
08:01.29Arrowmastergood
08:01.50Arrowmasteri think it was creaturetype that got auto abandoned
08:02.19nevcairielyeah i bumped that yesterday
08:02.28Gu1airi like the new launcher
08:02.38MelikaeGotta go to university :( Laters
08:03.57ckknightnevcairiel: the export.txt thing works now
08:04.02Repo10test-alpha: 03Nevcairiel * r106 TestAlpha.lua: booo!
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08:04.08nevcairielckknight: oh rly
08:04.09nevcairiel:)
08:04.13ckknightya rly
08:04.29ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/localization/export.txt?format=lua_table
08:04.31nevcairieldo you think i manually copy/pasted the locale out there for the babble script that just ran there? =P
08:04.44ckknightno fucking idea
08:04.47ckknightjust telling you
08:05.14nevcairielyeah i used it already
08:05.19ckknightokay
08:05.21ckknightall good?
08:05.30nevcairielseems so
08:05.36ckknightgreat
08:05.56Xinhuanexport.txt?
08:05.58Repo10test-alpha: 03Nevcairiel * r107 TestAlpha.lua: set keyword
08:06.24Arrowmaster'failed to connect' although i also just lost connection to another irc server
08:08.36nevcairielXinhuan: like the other export page, just without the html UI for scripted operations
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08:08.54nevcairiellike that script that generates babble libs from it
08:09.13Arrowmasterwhats the script in?
08:09.31nevcairielpython
08:09.37nevcairielalthough its like 10 lines code
08:10.54orionshocksilentium: pong
08:11.45nevcairielhttp://ace.pastey.net/106699
08:11.50nevcairielif anyone wants to see it :p
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08:15.59DeviadG'morning
08:16.18DeviadAre you experiencing a problem whereby the server doesn't recognize the client?
08:16.31DeviadIt should be normal as the servers are being update as I'm writing
08:16.32rapidgameany simple functions to center an item in a frame, or is it a long process?
08:16.41CIA-63panda: 03Tekkub 07master * r6c2e80d 10/ (Enchanting.lua GemCutting.lua Pot.lua): New 3.0.8 recipes - http://tinyurl.com/a7ms2j
08:16.43Deviadbut I just wanna be sure
08:17.59nevcairielwe all get it
08:18.40[Ammo]rapidgame: item:ClearAllPoints(); item:SetPoint("CENTER", frame, "CENTER")
08:19.12rapidgame[Ammo]: is that horizontal and vertical centering?
08:19.31amoebaIt's bofe!
08:19.54[Ammo]bothh
08:20.03[Ammo]read up on setpoint and its arguments
08:20.20rapidgamepossible to center just horizontally? I'll check wowprogramming...
08:20.24Brunershttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_Region_SetPoint
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08:24.30tz8_mornin
08:26.15tz8_Deviad: eu servers? same thing here
08:26.46Deviadtz8_, yeah, eu server
08:26.57DeviadIt should be normal as severs haven't been updated yet prolly
08:27.04tz8_ack
08:27.14Deviadso the login server is still updated for recognizing 3.0.3
08:27.31Shot`Why are my free days alw2ays patch days :<
08:27.34Shot`*always
08:27.43tz8_^^
08:27.43Deviadbut many people in the USA have had this warning even after the maintainance time
08:27.59nevcairielShot`: can you take next wednesday off? maybe we get 3.1 early then
08:28.10Shot`I'll see what I can do!
08:28.12Gu1airDeviad: just chill the patching is not done yet
08:28.16Deviadnevcairiel, rotfl
08:28.41silentiumorionshock: I have a suggestion for a new feature in guildcraft to export to a forum, I've just written a ticket
08:28.46the-golemi patched just fine :-/
08:29.06Shot`I just want to log in to look for TLPD on my alt :(
08:29.29nevcairieltlpd?
08:29.29Elkanohmm... any good mods to watch procs/ICDs around? before I go and write my own...
08:29.37Shot`time-lost
08:29.37nevcairielah that dragon
08:29.50Shot`Need one for my alt!
08:29.54ArrowmasterElkano: heatsink does i think
08:29.58WraithanElkano: what class?
08:30.23Wraithanclass specific seem to do a better job of that stuff rather than general ones
08:31.50silentiumorionshock: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/guildcraft/tickets/58-new-feature-export-tradeskills-into-php-bb-format/
08:31.59Elkanowell, mainly for the internal cooldowns ^^ the procs themself are visible via MSBT and EBB
08:32.30Shot`Elkano: can I have a reverse sorting option in EBB yet? :D
08:32.54manyonly 56M patch?
08:32.55Elkanosilentium, I wrote professions2phpbb for myself though I never released it ^^
08:33.12Gu1airmany: yes
08:33.41manymh. maybe i should de-NAT, only 6kb upload. hey blizz, i have 1GbE connectivity
08:34.01Gu1airuse an http mirror
08:34.03Arrowmasterno you dont
08:34.14manyyes, i do.
08:34.41manyArrowmaster: and not only from my notebook to the desktop switch.
08:34.52manyif thats what you're trying to tell me :-P
08:35.07silentiumElkano: does it export your own skills only or the ones of other guild members too? either way, in case orionshock doesnt add that feature it sure sounds interesting to me
08:35.09orionshocksilentium:  No
08:35.14Arrowmasterso you have an OC-24?
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08:35.41manyNo. i have 1GbE Copper to my coreswitch and from there multiple fibres 1G/10G to upstreams
08:36.02nevcairielUSians always start to think in weird OC-* terms =P
08:36.05Elkanoonly your own and it also uses my own tooltip hack for phpbb (meaning syntax [item]id[/item])
08:36.07manyfibre. you know the optical thing. :)
08:36.12Arrowmasteryes i know
08:36.19Arrowmasteri am a network engineer
08:36.22manyethernet, no OC. :P
08:36.37Arrowmasteri have a certification for fibre based networking
08:37.02Arrowmasterincluding fibre installation without the fancy tools that do everything for you
08:37.04manyArrowmaster: youll understand then that my office has a SX connection to the NAP we run
08:37.33Shot`You play wow at work?
08:37.43manyno. i try to download the patch.
08:37.48Shot`Ah ha
08:38.01manyor rather, i update my wow installation on my notebook at work
08:38.05Arrowmasterthats still just ethernet, doesnt mean your connection to the internet
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08:38.22manyArrowmaster: our upstreams are connected to the nap
08:38.35manywhich doesnt have any member with a port below 1GbE
08:38.37silentiumElkano: well I'll wait for orionshock's answer before I ask you to release your addon tho the masses, but thanks for the information already :)
08:39.08Arrowmasteryou could still be speed caped
08:39.22manyby whom? :)
08:39.30Arrowmasterthe provider
08:39.47manywhich of our bgp upstreams should speed cap me for what reason?
08:40.38Arrowmastermust be a big office
08:41.05manymy understanding it that youre trying to nitpick a hypothetical point which in practice will not happen because a) the upstreams are too lazy b) our traffic doesnt impose any problems to them and c) whatever
08:41.15many15 people. *hehe*
08:41.27Arrowmasterkinda odd to have multiple connections to core internet backbones but still have a NAT
08:41.44manywhy should i run the office PCs with public ips?
08:41.55manytis is nonsense.
08:42.01Arrowmasterbecause NATs are evil
08:42.11manythey indeed are.
08:42.20manybut theyre good enough for the purpose :)
08:42.44Arrowmasteri would hope you have a real hardware firewall too though
08:43.02many#define hardware firewall
08:43.15orionshocksilentium: the answer is no
08:43.17manygrins
08:43.39Arrowmastera firewall that effects more than just a local pc its running on
08:43.47manyThen Yes.
08:43.59Arrowmasteraka yes a linux/bsd box counts
08:44.12Elkanosilentium, would have to search for it anyways I think, don't seem to have it installed currently
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08:44.56rapidgamewhats the correct way to create a font object?
08:45.00manytheres only two boxen that firewall themselves. this is a) the BGP Router and b) the actualy firewall which firewalls the rest
08:45.56rapidgamei only see somevar:getfontobject()
08:46.06manywhereas firewall is a bit of a large term for "themselves". lets just call it packetfilter.
08:46.57rapidgamecan i do myFontObject = SetNormalFontObject("GameFontNormalSmall")
08:48.56rapidgameor should it be myFontObject = GameFontNormalSmall
08:50.37Camciwhy do i get the text" Inable to validate game version. This may be causd by file corruption or the interference of another problem? error when i try to log in? :p
08:50.54Gu1airCamci: eu?
08:51.01Camciyea
08:51.12Camcimaybe cuz servers still down?
08:51.15Arrowmasteryou cannot create a font object via lua but you can set the font of an object and get its font object
08:51.18Gu1airthe login server is still patched for 3.0.3
08:51.27Camciaha
08:51.33Camciso we just wait?
08:51.42Gu1airpatching is not done untill 11am
08:51.53Camcioke thanks :)
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09:00.12nevcairielDue to Wintergrasp issues affecting realm stability, the Battle for Wintergrasp has been temporarily disabled on all realms. We’re actively working to resolve this issue and we’ll provide an update as soon as it becomes available.
09:00.13nevcairielheh
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09:00.37Camcihuh
09:00.41quiescensso who gets the wintergrasp buff!
09:00.57Camciblizzard has always failed at pvp
09:01.02tz8Elkano: does EBB have the possibilty to click-report stuff to group/raid on how long de/buffs still last? And if not, likely to be implemented by you?
09:01.28Elkanono, it hasn't
09:01.45tz8likely to get it?
09:02.07tz8like shift-click or stuff
09:02.13Zhinjioorionshock: so... how can I debug this? Any thoughts?
09:02.24Zhinjiothe um... wicked sun brooch thinger
09:02.54Zhinjioor shall I just poke through your code to see what its doing and have it print out or something
09:03.34orionshocki think most of the debug code is still in there just commented out
09:07.00Shefkinevcairiel: Translation: Due to our inability to load test under realistic scenarios that play out on the realms we once again have failed at providing a quality patch and we must come up with something to save our asses.
09:08.01ShefkiLag issues will abound until we get 3.1 when we hopefully will have figured it out.  In the meantime you'll get bandaid solutions that lets things limp along.  Thank you for playing the beta.
09:08.07Vangualcould have just made premades available and have them spawn in wintergrasp when created. load testing right there
09:08.21Elkanotz8, ok, my local copy now has ^^
09:08.32mitch0I do a linear search over a sorted list. this list used to be pretty short, but now it's about 10 elements long. is it worth changing the linear search to binary? (I know, I should benchmark, but anyway)
09:08.43ShefkiVangual: That's about the only candy they have to get any number of people on the PTRs.
09:08.57Vangualvery much so
09:08.58krkalol, "10 elements long"
09:09.04krkathat's still not very long
09:09.08mitch0yes
09:09.12mitch0that's why I ask ;)
09:09.12Antiarchttp://i41.tinypic.com/dm9poi.jpg 8)
09:09.18ShefkiVangual: Frankly they should start offering "Feats of Strength" for participating in beta/PTR phases or something.
09:09.21krkalinear search is probably still fastest for 10 elements
09:09.46krkabinary search should be used if you expect 100+ elements
09:09.48VangualShefki: hmm, that's an interesting idea
09:10.20Vangualtho it's technically a bit hard to determine if a person actually tested stuff
09:10.56Repo10elkbuffbars: 03Elkano * r147 / (2 files in 1 directory):
09:10.57manyheh
09:10.59ShefkiVangual: *shrug*
09:10.59Repo- increased MINIMAP_UPDATE_TRACKING bucket from .1 to .5, could help to fix the name issue some players are reporting (it seems to be API delay :/ )
09:11.02Repo- shift-click on a bar will insert to chatbox if it's opened (drycoded)
09:11.16manyiam still all for it for the "i survived AQ crashes" FoS
09:11.20mitch0krka: that was my guess too. I just tried to find some way to improve the thing ;)
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09:12.00ShefkiVangual: They need to do something.  Between Wintergrasp and 25 man raids.  It's pretty obvious they were horribly unprepared for the load they've got.
09:12.11krkameasure first, optimize later
09:12.24krkayour bottleneck probably isn't your linear search over 10 elements
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09:12.37ShefkiYeah 10 elements isn't very long.
09:12.40ElkanoI'm for a "Kill 100 players in Southshore/Tarrens Mill while there are at least 100 players of each faction near you" ;)
09:12.40nevcairielI still think people need to shut up without knowing how complex a system really is
09:12.59Gu1airhttp://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=99375
09:13.01nevcairieleveryone claims blizzard is so fail, why dont you go work for them to improve it :P
09:13.06Gu1airclicking red button
09:13.11Gu1airgives you 2k+ rating
09:13.22manybecause the management probably sucks so much that the individual technician cant do anything bout it
09:13.39VangualShefki: I doubt their techies didn't expect these problems in advance. Smells more like a management/funding problem.
09:13.41Shefkinevcairiel: I understand it's a complex system.  I expect a reasonable amount of quality.
09:13.56ShefkiProblem that lasts a day, big whoop.
09:14.02ShefkiProblem that lasts a week, /sigh
09:14.11ShefkiProblem that's been ongoing for a month, = idiots.
09:14.25orionshockShefki: you do better?
09:14.35theoddone33can you cast a macro in a macro?
09:14.37orionshockseriously, it's alot... a metric fuckton lot...
09:14.41theoddone33I'm thinking no otherwise /in would be overpowered
09:14.48Shefkitheoddone33: No
09:15.06nevcairielyou can /click another macro button
09:15.31theoddone33so I could /cast Frostfire Bolt /in 2.7 /click ThisMacroButton
09:15.33theoddone33and afk?
09:15.35ShefkiNo
09:15.45Shefki<PROTECTED>
09:15.52theoddone33what?
09:15.55nevcairielafaik /in can only do chat output
09:15.58nevcairielno casts
09:16.02theoddone33that's supposed to mean I can't do it in combat?
09:16.08theoddone33you can /roll
09:16.14nevcairielroll is chat too
09:16.16theoddone33pretty sure you can /gquit though I didn't try
09:16.20nevcairielprobably
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09:16.28nevcairielbut its still not casts :)
09:16.29theoddone33but no combat actions if you're in combat
09:16.43theoddone33ah yes
09:16.50theoddone33it even tells me I can't use /cast
09:16.59theoddone33that was exciting
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09:17.35Shefkiorionshock: Lag was just as bad in Naxx tonight as it has been for the previous several weeks.  So if I was telling people the next minor patch would resolve the issues.  I'd damn well actually have it fixed.
09:18.25nevcairielthey didnt say it would be "fixed"
09:18.29nevcairielthey said it would improve
09:18.37ShefkiSame != improve.
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09:18.54thulfirefly is so quaint
09:18.57Vangualdid some encounter mechanics get changed?
09:19.04ShefkiNot that I'm aware of.
09:19.15ShefkiWell they added more skeletons to KT.
09:19.21nevcairielWe didn't have lag issues in the last two weeks anymore
09:19.28nevcairielthe previous hotfixed resolved it for my realm already
09:19.44Shefkinevcairiel: Hotfix made it worse for us.
09:19.54[Ammo]no real lag issues, but when wintergrasp final rush in the keep is fought its bad
09:20.05[Ammo]Shefki: cancel your account and be done with it :)
09:20.10nevcairielsrsly
09:20.10[Ammo]if you have no faith in blizzard
09:20.19ShefkiI did cancel the account actually.
09:20.28nevcairielthen stop complaining and whining :)
09:21.00ShefkiI'll stop complainign and whining when I can cancel my account this moment and get the money back I've already prepaid.
09:21.09ShefkiTill then I'm a paying customer, if I like it or not.
09:21.20[Ammo]I'd say ATDT-Blizzard and tell em
09:21.27[Ammo]no use complaining to us about it
09:21.46nevcairielmy realm went from completly unplayable in some encounters (thaddius, 4H mostly) to virtually no lag anymore
09:21.48nevcairielwith the hotfix
09:22.13tz8Elkano: you already commited? wow, that's fast... will you include automatic posting to group/raid without first opening the chat box?
09:24.59orionshockShefki: ... i'd double check your bank account man... last time i looked i paied 15$ a month to access servers.... and tbh 15$ a month dosn't give anyone the right to be angry about lag.
09:25.58ShefkiWhen it's making the game downright unplayable and it's universal to everyone.  Yes it does.
09:26.08nevcairielI dont have issues
09:26.14orionshocki don't have issues
09:26.14nevcairielso not universal to everyone
09:26.25ShefkiUniversal to everyone I'm playing with on my realm.
09:26.37nevcairielShefki: They add lag to people that cancel their account, didnt you know?
09:26.40ShefkiMeaning it's not some oddity of my network connection.
09:26.57orionshockoh really Shefki ?
09:27.07nevcairielmaybe you're just on one of the US realms thats "too full" :P
09:27.10Shefkinevcairiel: This isn't some BS conspiracy theory.  It's a real problem.
09:27.30orionshocklol the "real" problem has nothing to do with blizzard 9/10 times
09:27.31Shefkinevcairiel: We're actually a medium pop realm.  But that's pretty irrelevent becuase the issue is instance lag.
09:27.34ShefkiNot world lag.
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09:27.49ShefkiAnd instance servers are shared between realms in a BG.
09:27.53nevcairielmost realms have their own instance server
09:27.58nevcairielif they grwo big enough
09:28.05KalrothAnecdotal or not, the vast majority of people I've spoken to got major lag issues on US server. However, this channel is hardly the place to vent about that, that's why there's public Blizzard forums. :)
09:28.37ShefkiYes this is a US realm.
09:29.25Xinhuan<-- no lag on my server
09:29.36orionshock^^
09:29.45KalrothXin, you don't play WoW, you idle in Dalaran or Ironforge.
09:29.54Xinhuani'm doing sarth3d at this moment
09:30.03nevcairielno lag in dalaran would be something new
09:30.12KalrothHaving fun now that Twilight Torment can't be removed? :p
09:30.13[Ammo]nevcairiel: buy new PC :)
09:30.16nevcairielbut dalaran is like the only place you lag on my realm
09:30.16[Ammo]no lag here :)
09:30.33nevcairiel[Ammo]: nah, its real server lag, click on open mail, wait 5 seconds, receive item
09:30.37[Ammo]oh?
09:30.41nevcairieldoesnt happen anywhere else in the world
09:30.43[Ammo]never happened to me
09:30.46nevcairieljust dalaran
09:30.58nevcairielbut shrug, i could care less
09:31.02[Ammo]yeah
09:31.04nevcairieli dont usually hang around in dalaran
09:31.04[Ammo]it's all cool
09:31.11mitch0nev: it's just the wizards reading your mail before you get to them
09:31.27Zyndrome10:24.38 ( Kalroth ) Having fun now that Twilight Torment can't be removed? :p
09:31.28Zyndromeyou best be joking :C
09:31.34KalrothI'm not
09:31.43nevcairielno torment dance anymore, eh
09:31.46KalrothIt's a permanent aura now, from what I've been told anyways.
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09:32.25KalrothThis also makes Sarth10+3 fairly hard .. :)
09:32.29Zyndromeoh well, good thing I'm done with all Sarth-related achievements
09:32.45ZekUnable to Validate Game Version... lawl.
09:33.08Zeksiepatch days are great.
09:33.43Zyndrome"There are some human female animation errors, specifically when using two-handed weapons or shooting with a ranged weapon." ... hope to see my DK spaz out entirelly
09:34.23nevcairielZeksie: its not 11 yet! :)
09:34.32Zeksiei know.. i'm impatient!
09:35.05Zeksieguessed a change in the login protocol. was just giggling at the forum messages about the message ;)
09:35.27thuljeg ler så det gjør vondt av firefly
09:35.31thulwrong language.
09:35.39Zeksiemmm. gonna watch an episode of something then while i wait..
09:37.45Brunershmm, isnt libdatabroker on wowace?
09:37.52nevcairielno
09:37.54nevcairiel~ldb
09:37.55purli guess ldb is a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master
09:37.57Brunersgithub then ?
09:37.59sb|workKalroth: so yu have to kill the disciple every time to remove twilight torment? :o
09:38.09Kalrothyup
09:38.12Kalrothlike intended
09:38.18ShefkiHere's what I'm complaining about, graphs of the latency/packet loss:  http://shefki.org/graph_image.php.png         http://shefki.org/graph_image2.php.png
09:38.27ShefkiFirst graph is the actual server.
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09:38.40Shefki2nd is from the border from the network I get to AT&T's network on.
09:38.49ShefkiThe big red block is the maintenance.
09:40.17Zyndromeaight, EU server now validate the game version , buuuut no servers yet ofc
09:40.29nevcairielits still not 11!
09:40.39Camci20 min left !
09:40.51Zyndromelands his flying Delorean in nev's back yard
09:41.00thulhttp://thebigboobblog.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/christina-magazine.jpg <- busty guest star.
09:41.14thul(i'm still watching firefly, as you might understand)
09:41.22Zyndrometeets
09:42.04krkasfw?
09:43.30thulys
09:43.32thulyes
09:43.35manyeveryones using http mirrors, eh.
09:43.46nevcairieli wasnt!
09:43.46manyi see 8 people seeding. wow.
09:44.09krkacan never tell with Yo-Saff-Bridge
09:45.11rapidgamewhats the method for creating a new font object, local details_buttonFont = GameFontNormalSmall isn't correct haha
09:45.14Brunersi just stopped seeding
09:45.20manyand it snows!
09:45.57Shefkirapidgame: I'm almost positive someone answered that earlier.
09:46.46Brunersrapidgame: CreateFontString(nil, "OVERLAY")
09:47.03ShefkiBruners: He wants a font object not a FontString.
09:47.07ShefkiDifferent things.
09:47.27rapidgameyeah... i did ask earlier, didn't see a response - will scroll up and check again
09:47.30Arrowmasteri said to setfont on an object and then getfont but im not sure thats the right way
09:47.51BrunersShefki: sowwy, i should have read what he asked about
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09:48.24rapidgameArrowmaster: yeah, there doesn't seem to be a way of creating one directly
09:48.34Arrowmasteryou can with xml
09:48.37Shefkirapidgame: XML
09:48.54nevcairielDo you usually need to create one anyway?
09:48.54Arrowmastertekkub knows more about fonts than i do but heres not here right now
09:49.11nevcairielYou can achieve the same effect by settings a path, a size, and some outline/shadow settings
09:49.43Arrowmasterinheritance is the main reason to use a real font object
09:51.12rapidgamei just have a number of buttons etc using the same font, colour etc, and i thought it would be easier to setup a font object in one place and have them all use that one
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09:51.57Repo- Death Knight: Fixed Buff: Bone Shield was being multiplied by stack count
09:52.00Repo- Removed 3.0.8 compat code
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09:55.03rapidgameshame inheritance doesn't work with lua generated objects, only xml
09:55.59BrunersLibDBIcon works without a display addon ?
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09:56.08mitch0yes
09:56.16manyZeksie: is it possible to use UnitInRange() in xperl to detect wether a unit in the raidframe is in a castable range?
09:56.17mitch0puts an icon around the minimap afaik
09:56.31Shefkimany: IsSpellInRange() is probably better.
09:56.47Zeksiemany: yeh, check the bottom of Global options, there's a whole section for the range finder and lets you setup which spell etc.
09:56.55Zeksieworks for spells and items
09:56.56ShefkiEspecially if you use a spell that's the general range for the class.
09:56.56manyoh
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09:57.26manysometimes i just feel blind not to see this options.
09:57.31Zeksie:)
09:57.33rapidgamefontObject = CreateFont("name")
09:59.06manyZeksie: how will enabling this affect perfomance?
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09:59.44Zeksiebarely at all. ran a lot of tests on it when i had a much slower PC. was fine
09:59.52manysuperb.
09:59.53orionshockZhinjio: any luck?
09:59.58Zeksiehardly measurable
10:00.45Zhinjioorionshock: taking care of something for arrowmaster ... I'll be done with that in about 10 minutes
10:00.52Zhinjiothen I can switch over and see what quest is there
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10:03.53tz8.de servers are up again
10:04.02nevcairielya mine is working
10:05.07sb|workKalroth: where did you get that twilight toremnt info?
10:05.17KalrothEJ forums
10:05.23sb|workurl? :O
10:05.40Kalrothbenefactor section only so far
10:06.22Kalrothhttp://elitistjerks.com/1063200-post4456.html if you got access
10:06.35sb|workhm no...
10:06.40EthanCentauraiWTB faster blizzard downloader or a decent mirror... 2Mb in 3 hours is epic fail
10:06.41sb|workhow to get access? ;)
10:06.47Kalroth"Attacking doesn't temporarily remove the Twilight Torment debuff anymore, so the tank can't avoid taking breaths with the debuff up."
10:07.33sb|workhm
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10:07.49sb|workso you have also a lot more incoming damage on rogues
10:08.17Trell-is skillet broken?
10:08.25KalrothI think the damage part is still on a cooldown, it's only the damage modifier that's permanent
10:08.29Trell-its screwing up my JC window
10:08.34Trell-as of the patch today
10:09.29KalrothFirst you ask if it's broken and then you state it's broken, which is it? :p
10:09.48Trell-well...techincally a question I guess
10:09.56Trell-seeing if its something my end or if anyone else has it broken
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10:10.43gixEthanCentaurai: have you looked on <http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors>?
10:10.58EthanCentauraiyes but there is no Mac mirrors yet :(
10:11.17EthanCentauraihttp://www.macgamefiles.com/detail.php?item=20284 just leads to a dead link
10:11.20sb|workuhm Kalroth, but it would also mean
10:11.21Trell-Kalroth;
10:11.23Trell-it was GYP
10:11.31jnwhitehEthanCentaurai: I can post it in when its done here
10:11.54sb|work10k crit = 17.5k incoming dmg
10:11.55EthanCentauraiok
10:12.01sb|work(from finisher, execute, whatever)
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10:12.08sb|work(style that is.. not autoattack)
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10:12.17Kalrothsb|work: uh, no?
10:12.22sb|workno?
10:12.32KalrothTwilight Torment is 2-3k damage, max
10:12.38sb|workit is NOW
10:12.46sb|workbecause your styles clear the debuff
10:12.51sb|workbut they wont do that anymore
10:12.58sb|workso its possible to get damage from your styles
10:13.05sb|workexecute, eviscerate, etc. that is
10:13.16KalrothTwilight Torment
10:13.16Kalroth1712 to 1988 Shadow damage taken when damage dealt.
10:13.27sb|workoh
10:13.29sb|workok :(
10:13.30Kalrothit doesn't matter if you use hamstring or execute, it's the same amount of damage you take
10:13.32sb|worknevermind then :)
10:13.33jnwhitehEthanCentaurai: 450k+ a second, so i'll post it on a high bw server in about 5 min :P
10:13.44sb|workthought it was some "dmg in = dmg out" thingie
10:13.47quiescensits base damage is fairly low, but you have to account for debuffs
10:13.49KalrothNope
10:14.15sb|workok... no problem then ;)
10:14.37sb|workexcept for the "kill shadron + disciple before vesperon spawns disciple" part :p
10:15.05KalrothWell in 25 man you can kill Shadron before you run out of cooldowns, so it shouldn't be a problem
10:15.13KalrothBut 10 man just got a lot harder
10:15.59rapidgameanyone know the default wow text colour in r, g, b values?
10:16.11EthanCentaurai1, 0.72, 0
10:16.22rapidgameEthanCentaurai: TY!
10:17.30Stanzillaso, what broke today?
10:17.36Stanzillalooks like sharedmedia is not working
10:17.37Stanzilla*lib
10:17.54ShefkiWorks fine here.
10:18.09StanzillaI got default blizz textures in all my addons :D
10:18.13ShefkiSome actionbar mods need updating becuase of the OnShow/OnHide change.
10:18.19ShefkiStanzilla: Load out of date?
10:18.19Repo10proculas: 03Xocide 041.5.1 * r153 : Tagging as 1.5.1
10:18.25Stanzillahngnngg
10:18.27Stanzillatrue -.-
10:18.44sb|workKalroth: how to get access to that area? :P
10:18.53ShefkiI think SharedMedia is still doesn't have the right interface version.
10:19.00Kalrothsb|work: Become a benefactor
10:19.58ShefkiHmm looks like SharedMedia and LibSharedMedia-3.0 do have the right version.  /shrug.
10:20.12Stanzillalibsink didn't
10:20.19ShefkiAhh there you go.
10:20.54ShefkiActually what's LibSink got to do with SharedMedia?
10:21.06jnwhitehEthanCentaurai: http://clad.wowforge.com/files/WoW-3.0.3.9183-to-3.0.8.9464-enGB-patch.zip
10:21.18StanzillaI dunno
10:21.25jnwhitehplease don't wowwiki it, but feel free to give it to other people
10:21.28jnwhitehthat's the mac os x version
10:21.30Stanzillabut now I can#t even log in :>
10:22.01EthanCentauraithanks jnwhiteh :D
10:22.29Zhinjiook orionshock ... switching back now
10:23.34nevcairielStanzilla: I'm stuck in a portal to ironforge from dalaran :)
10:23.47Stanzillanevcairiel: black temple instance port here
10:23.59nevcairielwtf are you doing in BT
10:24.00nevcairiel:P
10:24.06Stanzillainstance port!
10:24.12Stanzillahearthstone on cd :D
10:24.15nevcairielhah
10:24.31Stanzillaquest necklace + instance port = 2nd hearthstone
10:24.37Arrowmaster.....
10:24.50nevcairieli dont carry that necklace with me anymore
10:26.06linear`how long should it take for release tags to appear on the curse site
10:26.22Shefkiminutes.
10:26.31ShefkiIf it isn't sucking from some db issue again.
10:26.52linear`hm its been like 6 hours
10:26.58nevcairielwhich addon?
10:28.21Arrowmasterthere is a syncing issue again
10:29.27nevcairielcurse has some weird layout issues too
10:29.28nevcairielhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/libbabble-zone-3-0.aspx
10:29.30nevcairiellooks just broken :P
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10:29.48ShefkiProbably everyone going "Patch, must update my addons."
10:30.00nevcairielits responsive
10:30.03nevcairielbut looks weird
10:30.20ShefkiOhh wow that is weird.
10:30.32nevcairielother addons look fine, though
10:30.43vhaarraddons are fine, but my mouse cursor keeps disappearing and coming back
10:30.45ShefkiMaybe it's because comments are turned off.
10:31.02ShefkiI'd bet there aren't very many addons with comments turned off.
10:31.13Tinyboomhmm, any of you know of any good web based network/server monitors, web based and hopefully open source? :)
10:31.35ShefkiTinyboom: Nagios?
10:31.36Stanzillavhaarr: hardware cursor on/off?
10:31.57Arrowmastervhaarr: yeah i had to enable hardware cursor
10:32.02mitch0tiny: take a look at nagios
10:32.07Tinyboomtried nagios, don't have the time to manually add every bloody server/switch i need to monitor...
10:32.16Arrowmasternevcairiel: ace3 pages looks fine
10:32.21vhaarrStanzilla, Arrowmaster: I'm on linux, the hardware cursor checkbox is disabled
10:32.28manyuse a webbased nagios admin frontend
10:32.42Zhinjioorionshock: the cooking one worked fnie
10:32.44Zhinjioer, fine
10:32.46Tinyboommany: like? ;)
10:32.46Arrowmastervhaarr: im on windows and had to enable it
10:32.48ShefkiTinyboom: Well I'm not sure how you expect Nagios to figure out what you want monitored if you don't tell it.
10:32.48Zhinjioswitching to JC now
10:32.51vhaarrtried disabling "Reduce Input Lag" now
10:33.05vhaarrArrowmaster: what I mean is, the control itself is disabled
10:33.06TinyboomShefki: there are those that can scan for you :)
10:33.06manycacti has mod_nmap which scans the network for boxens
10:33.09vhaarrArrowmaster: it can't be toggled on linux
10:33.17manybut cacti has no nice notifying stuff, its graphing only
10:33.31manyor rather it has no AI to detect abnormalites.
10:33.49ShefkiI use Nagios to monitor.  Cacti for graphing stuff.
10:34.08Tinyboomwell, alerts i want to set up myself, it's the adding of stuff that's too time consuming...
10:34.40mitch0I bet it can be scripted
10:35.44Wraithanmany: boxens? isn't that double plural?
10:35.47EthanCentauraijnwhiteh: it won't install... I've downloaded it, I double-click it but nothing happens :/
10:35.56ramozits a zipfile? :O
10:36.32EthanCentaurais/double-click/run the .app file inside the zip/
10:36.49EthanCentauraiugh
10:37.53jnwhitehEthanCentaurai: chmod the actual installer.
10:38.07jnwhitehyou ALWAYS have to do that when you download not using the blizz downloader
10:38.28Stanzillathey broke the critter /love achievement
10:38.34Stanzillado not want to do that again :(
10:38.52Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r1873 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update
10:38.54manyWraithan: Yup.
10:39.10jnwhitehEthanCentaurai: cd WoW-3.0.3.9183-to-3.0.8-9464-enGB-patch.app/Contents/MacOS
10:39.13manyShefki: PNP4Nagios
10:39.14jnwhitehchmod +x Installer
10:39.38gixdoes anyone know after which criteria blizzard decides to use patch*.mpq and patch*-2.mpq files?
10:39.52manyfor anything but bandwidth itll integrate graphing into nagios. bandwith needs some extra handling afaik and i didnt check it until yet
10:40.23Zeksiesheesh.. wtb examples for the restricted execution stuff.. :|
10:40.33nevcairielwhat do you want to do with it?
10:40.40manyWraithan: guess thats some germanism. a guild on our server actually called themselves <childrens of [something]>
10:41.03manyeverytime i see that tag i want to punch some face. :P
10:41.13WraithanHaha
10:41.15Shefkimany: Yeah I was just not fond of the PNP stuff.  *shrug*
10:41.31manyShefki: i see. i have both, so i guess its okay. :P
10:41.57Shefkimany: I don't typically graph the same stuff I'm monitoring.  The monitoring mostly  just makes sure stuff is up.
10:42.09Zeksienevcairiel: just trying to work out what they did with the old SetAnimating stuff. think i found it. but reverse engineering is always a pain.
10:42.15Zeksieplain examples would be so nice.
10:42.36manyShefki: i have nagios+pnp for stuff like storage, its nice to have alerting and graphing to see wether a disk runs out of space
10:42.53ArrowmasterXinhuan and tekkub were digging into the animation stuff earlier
10:42.54manycacti nowadays does bandwidth only
10:43.05Xinhuanits not usable atm
10:43.10Repo10talented_data: 03jerry * r191 Talented_GatherData/scripts/luadbc (3 files in 1 directory): add lots of opcodes to the DBC description parser
10:43.12Repoadd a spelldata generator from DBC
10:43.44Zeksieoh great... so how are you supposed to get a child to close a second later than the parent that showed a window via OnEnter..
10:44.13ArrowmasterZeksie: thats the exact problem Xinhuan was investigating and i think found a workable solution for earlyer
10:44.24Arrowmasteror close to workable maybe
10:44.37Xinhuani didn't
10:44.39Zeksie:)
10:44.41Xinhuani just make my popbars close on exit
10:44.41Arrowmasteroh
10:44.49Xinhuaninstead of close after X seconds on exit
10:44.58Zeksiethat's awful..
10:45.16Zeksiewhat's the new SetUpAnimation() thing then?
10:45.17Xinhuanyes instead, i worked by resizing the background popup frame
10:45.22Zeksiethat the thing that's not working?
10:45.31Xinhuanya
10:45.40Zeksieright.
10:46.31Zeksienot sure how i'm gonna do this then
10:46.45Zeksiethe popup list from ZOMG's icon.
10:48.24EthanCentauraibah I'll get used to how MacOS works one of these days... thanks Cladhaire, installing now :)
10:48.27Xinhuanwhy
10:48.39jnwhitehnp EthanCentaurai
10:48.41Gu1airomg what did they do the icon on eternal earth
10:48.48jnwhitehat some point when it renames the file from Installer.part to Installer, it chmod's it
10:48.57jnwhitehwhen you don't download it with the Blizz Downloader, that step never happens
10:49.02jnwhitehso unix can't run it :P
10:49.04jnwhitehbbl
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10:50.02Xinhuanwhy do you need the popup list to stay up Zeksie
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10:50.54Zeksiecos it's too easy for the mouse to slide off the side when ppl try to access it quickly.
10:51.12Zeksiewas the whole reason i put the delay in there
10:51.22Xinhuanclick slower
10:51.22Xinhuan;p
10:51.29Xinhuanmake the menu appear below the button
10:51.31Xinhuanrather than to the side
10:51.39Xinhuanthat way you have less of an issue
10:51.45Zeksieyeh. gonna have to do whatever atm
10:51.47yoshimosince beginning of wotlk i have been using the old betaclient to connect, but now the 3.08 patch is unable to complete. Is there a way to get around a 7,5gig download of the "real" client?
10:52.19Zeksieerm.. can you tell me without me looking into it then.. how to get the child list SecureActionButtons to hide the parent list onleave ?
10:52.34Repo10talented: 03jerry * r361 / (3 files in 1 directory):
10:52.37RepoRegenerate spelldata for 3.0.8 (based on PTR data, but should be correct).
10:52.40RepoTalent names and description are now extracted from the client.
10:52.43RepoStill needs Talented_Data for Icons, topology, and Tab names.
10:52.44AntiarcWelp
10:52.49AntiarcFinished the night at 2400 personal rating
10:52.51AntiarcShit be broke.
10:52.54Xinhuani use the parent to wrap an onleave wrapper on the children
10:53.50Zeksiemm. got an example of that someplace?
10:53.55Zeksienever looked at hte wrapper stuff
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11:00.03ShefkiAntiarc: I'm not sure if I should congratulate you or not.
11:01.31Xinhuanuh its easy Zeksie
11:01.38Xinhuansorry, i'm doing sarth3d, its a bit harder now >.>
11:01.47Zeksiemaybe. but it's early here and not thinking straight.
11:02.04Xinhuanlets say you have a header
11:02.20Xinhuanand you add the children to its internal environment
11:02.32XinhuanIPopBarFrameBar:Execute("Buttons = table.new(self:GetChildren())")
11:02.38Xinhuanin that example, its "Buttons[]"
11:02.57Xinhuanthen you have
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11:03.05Xinhuanfor i = 1, 33 do
11:03.06XinhuanSecureHandlerWrapScript(allB[i], "OnEnter", IPopBarFrameBar, onEnter)
11:03.10Xinhuanend
11:03.14Xinhuanhere, OnEnter is a string
11:03.32XinhuanonEnter = format('for i = 12, %d do Buttons[i]:Show() end IPopBarFrameBar:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", "$parent", "TOPLEFT", 556, %d)', db.NumRows * 11, (db.NumRows - 1) * 42)
11:03.38Xinhuanor whateve secure code you want to run
11:03.46Xinhuanin your case, you probably want OnEnter to do nothing
11:03.57Zeksieyeh, will use OnLeave
11:04.11Xinhuanand OnLeave = "someframe:Hide()"
11:04.17Xinhuanbut you have to pass those frames in as well
11:04.21Xinhuanusing :Execute()
11:04.29Xinhuanor use SetFrameRef
11:04.46Xinhuannote, you must have an OnEnter, or the OnLeave won't trigger
11:04.53Xinhuanthe OnEnter sets a flag that the OnLeave checks for
11:04.59Xinhuanso you still need an empty OnEnter wrapper
11:05.12Zeksieok
11:05.22quiescensso this new warlock thing
11:06.16Arrowmasterthere is no new warlock thing besides more brokenness
11:06.29Xinhuannew rain of fire animation ;p
11:06.42MelikaeNew Cooldown for Ritual of Summoning
11:06.51Melikaeabout 1-400 HP more for pets
11:07.11Melikaestill not fixed T7.5 shoulders
11:07.12ShefkiAnyone mess around with the new dropdown code and figured out how to avoid the tait with the set focus option?
11:07.19Repo10talented: 03jerry * r362 / (2 files in 1 directory): remove embeds.xml
11:07.27Arrowmasterwhats wrong with the shoulders?
11:08.08Arrowmasterare the stats not suppost to suck that badly?
11:08.10MelikaeThey have the same amount of spellpower as the 10 man shoulders, while all other caster shoulders have 10 spellpower more
11:08.16Arrowmasteroh
11:08.27Arrowmasterive been using the shoulders from 25man horsemen
11:08.41Xinhuanas far as i know Shefki, it shouldn't taint anymore no matter how u use it
11:08.46quiescensdidn't they put in like a multiple summon thingy for warlocks
11:08.46Arrowmasterhell ive pass on the shoulders from 25man malygos too
11:08.52Arrowmasterquiescens: no
11:10.30quiescenswhys ):
11:11.00Arrowmasterbecause blizzard fails at doing source control and making patches apparently
11:11.53ShefkiXinhuan: Humm still taining with PitBull.
11:12.10Arrowmasterthey likely didnt fix that issue at all
11:12.12Xinhuanare your menus super long or what
11:12.30Arrowmasterbut maybe they fixed the issue with the default unit frames
11:12.35ShefkiNot really.
11:12.38ShefkiArrowmaster: They did.
11:12.53ShefkiOhh hey here's an idea, I should go look at those.
11:13.03Xinhuanmm xperl's set focus menu still taints
11:13.15Zeksieyeh. just tried it.
11:13.22ShefkiXinhuan: CK was looking at it earlier and he seemed to think we had to do something.
11:13.34Xinhuani haven't looked at it yet
11:13.45Xinhuanwowcompares didn't have a convenient set of zips for me to download
11:14.14Brunersøstill not fixed the set focus thingie :S
11:14.18ShefkiI'm running the addon kit now, hopefully it'll work.
11:15.10nevcairielhttp://wowcompares.com/0089438?download <--? :)
11:15.24nevcairielthere havent been alot of ui changes since that build
11:15.32Xinhuanthey didn't have it this morning 12 hours ago ;p
11:16.01Pneumatusi really hope their changes to the animation retardedness will actually stop some frames animating infinatly :o
11:16.22Xinhuanright now? it doesn't work at all ;p
11:16.32Pneumatuseven better.
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11:17.35Pneumatusi thought they were making fire seed a grey item :o
11:17.36Pneumatusfail
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11:21.10Zhinjiook, orionshock
11:21.12Zhinjioits the same quest
11:21.20Zhinjioits not auto-accepting.
11:21.33Zhinjiodoes it matter that it has a [-1] in front of it?
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11:21.51Zhinjioand what can I do to help figure it out?
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11:26.26orionshockenable the debug stuff and send me a pastey of what it says
11:26.43Repo10addon-loader: 03Ammo 04r75-release * r76 : Tagging as r75-release
11:27.21ZhinjioI didn't see a debug enable in the code. I saw the "D" function you defined, and it being used, but I couldn't tell how to enable it
11:27.29Zhinjioso to speak
11:27.37Zhinjioand I don't see anything int he addon options in-game
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11:29.25orionshockfind the commented out lines
11:30.13Zhinjiook, doing so now. standby
11:32.31Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r228 TradeskillIdData.lua:
11:32.33Repo- Modified enchanting recipe mats according to wowwiki patch notes.
11:33.56Zhinjiosighs.
11:34.08Zhinjionothing in the interaction with the vendor is spitting anything otu. finding that code
11:37.45orionshockhumm...
11:38.08orionshockdo you have a mod that clicks though to the vendor?
11:38.33Zhinjiodon't think so.
11:38.45Zhinjionope
11:38.56Zhinjiohe's a trainer
11:39.03Zhinjionot a vendor (if that matters)
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11:39.38Chosimew
11:40.01Chosianyone else than kagaro working on gathermate?
11:40.04orionshockwell with that debug enabled it should spit out the event firing...
11:40.06Chosiit needs some localization updates
11:40.37Zhinjiofound one more thing he didn't uncomment.
11:40.38Zhinjiochecking now
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11:42.01gixmeh. why is everyone so slow. wowhead and armory outdated/broken. :<
11:42.46Zhinjiohis GUID matches at least
11:42.55Zhinjiostill not getting any output when I interact with him
11:43.19orionshockwhat's the "GOSSIP_SHOW" event say ?
11:43.25Chosi.seen kagaro
11:43.27ShefkiWell from digging around in this code.  I don't think they did anything that lets us make Set Focus work.  All they did is make it so we shouldn't be able to taint Set Focus on the Blizzard Unit Frames.
11:43.31Chosi!seen kagaro
11:43.46ShefkiUnless I'm just missing something, which is possible.
11:43.46orionshock~seen kagaro
11:43.48purlkagaro <n=kagaro@cpe-065-190-128-061.nc.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 15d 16h 15m 36s ago, saying: '^^'.
11:43.56Chosiouch...
11:45.05Chosiwell blizz renamed the german ore nodes, dunno if they did changes to the english descriptions
11:45.11Chosidid they?
11:45.44p4avedthey did
11:46.04ZhinjioI may have uncommented out the D() piece incorrectly: http://www.wowace.com/paste/177/
11:46.10SunTsuWhat did they change to?
11:46.38p4avedslight changes, worldofraids had the details about a fortnight ago
11:46.57orionshockhttp://www.wowace.com/paste/178/
11:47.40manyoh shit. the new launcher is blending me
11:48.28Zhinjioorionshock: do I have an old version or something? shit.
11:48.30Zhinjiochecking
11:48.57ZhinjioI suspect I'm using the last beta
11:49.02Zhinjiothats what the CC would have pulled down
11:49.12Zhinjior143 (Beta 6.0.9)
11:49.21Zhinjiolemme get the latest alpha
11:51.08orionshock... 1# rule when finding a "bug" ... go update :)
11:51.49Zhinjioyeah, I'm doing it again... just to make sure.
11:54.48Zhinjiook, uncommented everything now... trying again
11:54.50Zhinjioone moment
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11:56.22Zhinjiohttp://www.wowace.com/paste/179/
11:58.11syerenShefki, just posted a bug for you :p
11:58.54tz8heh, anonymous Berlin did a raid on the Valkyrie red carpet event...
11:59.14tz8one managed to get a Tom Cruise signature on his Guy Fawkes mask...
11:59.24tz8ur doin it wrong Tom!
12:00.21Shefkisyeren: That makes no sense.
12:00.31syerenWell, I'm not here to make sense.
12:00.35syerenI log in and get that error.
12:00.36syeren;p
12:01.07orionshockZhinjio: that means it's not picking up the quest...
12:01.58orionshockZhinjio: open the window for the NPC then do this :  /dump GetGossipAvailableQuests()
12:02.00orionshockwhat do u see?
12:02.33Zhinjioone sce
12:03.09Zhinjio: [05:03]"Shipment: Wicked Sun Brooch ", -1, nil
12:03.14Zhinjiop,g
12:03.16Zhinjioomg
12:03.21Zhinjiothere's a space at the end
12:03.25Zhinjiowould that matter?
12:03.27orionshock?
12:03.31orionshockthere is a space at the end?
12:03.37orionshockO.O
12:03.38Zhinjio^^
12:03.47Zhinjioin between the quotes
12:03.53Zhinjio...Brooch "
12:04.02orionshockthat would cause problems yes
12:04.08orionshockwtf blizz
12:04.16orionshock<PROTECTED>
12:04.38orionshockZhinjio: go into the locale file and add a space at the end of that quest
12:05.38Zhinjionow: LK["Shipment: Wicked Sun Brooch "] = true
12:05.43orionshockda
12:05.44Zhinjioreloading
12:08.16Zhinjioworked.
12:08.19Zhinjiofucking blizzard
12:08.31orionshock>.>
12:08.38orionshockgives Zhinjio a cookie
12:08.47orionshockthanks, i'll commit that change...
12:08.59orionshockgives blizzard 10 points.... off their collective IQ
12:09.39Zhinjiothanks man
12:10.06thulNOM
12:10.13manythats like trimming the rogue off 10 dps
12:10.17manynobody will notice
12:13.29gixnice. 3 yellow small feast casts and no level-up
12:14.26Repo10magealert: 03yheen * r42 / (2 files in 1 directory): All locations now supported, frensh BF bug is fixed
12:14.53Kalrothfrensh? is like a fresh french?!
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12:21.06orionshockwtf
12:21.12orionshocklatest alpha has that change in it?
12:21.56Repo10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r50 / (3 files in 3 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
12:21.58RepoZOMGBuffs:
12:22.01Repo- Fixed issue with 3.0.8 and the popup list, but sadly it can't fade off like it did before because that API part has been removed for the moment.
12:22.04Repo- Blessings in the popup list will now consider Battleshout as BoMight.
12:22.07Repo- Added missing Seal of Justice to Self Buffs.
12:23.50orionshockZhinjio:
12:24.12Zhinjioorionshock:
12:24.24orionshockZhinjio:  -- looks like kunda found that glitch for us... was fixed already in latest alpha as of r147
12:24.58Zhinjioum
12:25.05ZhinjioI just downloaded and was using r150
12:25.14Zhinjioso I disagree
12:25.24Zhinjiounless it got reverted somehow
12:26.03orionshock>.> trying to raid and debug is a bad idea
12:26.20Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r151 localizations/localization-enUS.lua: add space to end of "Shipment: Wicked Sun Brooch "
12:26.22Repothanks Zhinjio
12:26.24Repo~fail blizzard
12:26.25purlblizzard: FAIL!
12:26.35Zhinjiogrins.
12:27.14Repo10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie 043.0.8 Release * r51 : Tagging as 3.0.8 Release
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12:27.34Xinhuanhmm when did arcane powder stack to 100
12:28.15Zhinjiothis patch
12:28.17Zeksiethat must be new today.
12:28.26orionshockZhinjio: and i now have the localization support setup though the new system..
12:28.33orionshockim interested to see how that works really
12:28.46ZhinjioI'm using it for almost all my addons now
12:29.30Zhinjioit has one nuance that I don't like so far, but otherwise, its been pretty darn flawless for me
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12:31.06SunTsu.o0( It stacks to 100? That will be great when I hit reagent vendor with freerefills activated )
12:32.32sacarascOutfitter seems to be broken now :( http://75af628d0a79dc79.paste.se/
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12:38.24Zeksiejesus.. they didn't fix [flyable] for Dalaran..
12:39.13thul:-(
12:40.20Kalrothfix what?
12:40.27Kalrothoh, the macro
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12:46.12Pneumatusbleh, the Chef de Cuisine achievement still looks like its bugged
12:46.29TaladrisDamn, I'm going to have to re-learn how to pally tank again... no more double shield slam. :(
12:46.38Pneumatusive got 158/160 and can only learn deviate delight, and i even have the chimearok chops recipe :<
12:46.50vhaarrPneumatus: it's not, a guild mate just got it
12:46.57Pneumatusa rogue?
12:47.00vhaarrwarlock
12:47.37Pneumatuswell, ARL says i've got 159 trained but the achievement only shows 158
12:52.17nevcairielPneumatus: alot of guildmates have it here too
12:52.23nevcairielARL is probably full of fail
12:53.44Taladrislol
12:53.51Taladristoo much dry code? :P
12:54.31Pneumatusi just counted manually, i have 159
12:54.39Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * cc51c8a Modules/Aura/Update.lua: [+1 commit] Protect against nil keys for guess_spell_icon.
12:55.08nevcairieldid you get all the new ones in the game?
12:55.25Pneumatusyup, kungaloosh, worg tartare and fish feast
12:55.33Pneumatusi have the chef title
12:55.34nevcairielthen you're missing something else :)
12:55.51Pneumatusno, the achievement count is wrong
12:55.52nevcairieli've seen people get chef de cuisine
12:56.01Pneumatusbecause i just manually counted 159 recipies :o
12:56.07nevcairielit still requires 160 and you have 159 :P
12:56.15nevcairielmaybe it doesnt count one recipe for whatever reason
12:56.18Pneumatusthe counter says 158 though :P
12:56.39ShefkiAchievement counts a fairly buggy.
12:56.44Taladrisorionshock: Does "Shipment: Blood Jade Amulet" have a space after it as well? socd isn't auto-accepting it
12:57.04ShefkiMy GF got 25 Badges of Valor today with 27 in her curency tab.
12:57.26Pneumatusthere's no excuse for a recipie count to be wrong tho :o
12:57.45ShefkiDid you recently learn a recipe?
12:57.55Pneumatusi've relogged, still the same
12:58.06ShefkiBecause the Achievement counts don't always update immediately.
12:58.11nevcairielAccording to wowhead thistle tea might not be counted
12:58.13nevcairielif you have that
12:58.14ShefkiLogging doesn't matter, it's a db issue on their end.
12:58.17Pneumatusi dont have that anyway
12:58.32nevcairielmaybe there are others that dont count 0P
12:58.50Shefkinevcairiel: Don't think so there's only 161 recipes in game not counting the tea.
12:58.53Pneumatusmaybe, but if any others aren't achievable then you cant get the achievement
12:59.02nevcairielbut people have it
12:59.04nevcairielonly you fail
12:59.09nevcairieland your manual count is one short too
12:59.11nevcairielso shrug
12:59.11nevcairiel:P
12:59.36Pneumatusi know 1 that im missing though
13:00.09ShefkiWith the cooking window open what does this return: /dump GetNumTradeSkills()
13:00.24SunTsuShefki: Only looted badges count for the achievement. So heroic daily does not help
13:00.35Pneumatus160, but that also includes a header
13:00.39ShefkiSunTsu: Valor.  Not Heroism.
13:00.57SunTsuShefki: Ah, OK, I never said anything ;)
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13:01.21ShefkiI have no idea how her achievement counter got behind her actual count by 2.
13:01.23Pneumatusprobably bugged from when it counted up per loot attempt, not actual loot
13:01.27ShefkiBut the Heroism thing is interesting, didn't know that.
13:01.37Pneumatusit was hotfixed, but you could spamclick badges and the counter would rise even if you didnt loot
13:01.56Pneumatusyou could macro the 1000 badge achievement in 1 hit
13:01.59ShefkiWell that probably explains how my count is ahead.
13:02.25Repo10vendorsearch: 03adriweb * r38 Core.lua: Update 1.92 (essai)
13:03.33TaladrisOrionshock: ping
13:14.56orionshockTaladris: pong
13:15.24orionshockTaladris: try it, go into the locale file and add the space see if it works
13:15.25Repo10vendorsearch: 03adriweb 04v1.92 * r39 : Update 1.92 (essai)
13:16.35TaladrisYeah, I did, and it worked.
13:16.37Repo10talented: 03jerry * r363 / (3 files in 2 directories): Sort templates alphabetically in menu.
13:16.39RepoOutput URL to a Dialog for easier copy/pasting.
13:16.43Repo10vendorsearch: 03adriweb 04v1.92 * r40 : mistake
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13:31.23Repo10talented: 03jerry * r365 / (4 files in 3 directories):
13:31.25RepoAdd an option to select between Dialog or ChatFrame when exporting URL
13:37.29Camciwhat exploid was it so they made lock summon cd 2 min ?
13:39.45Repo10talented_data: 03jerry * r192 Talented_GatherData/scripts/convert-js-lite.lua: Add a new generator that does not include Talent names and
13:39.48Repodescriptions.
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13:58.54XinhuanShefki, i had 159 recipes before patch
13:58.56Xinhuanand 162 after :)
13:59.45Repo10grim-reaper: 03Zeksie * r62 GrimReaper.lua: GrimReaper: Fix unit menu error for Combat Log selection.
14:00.19Repo10grim-reaper: 03Zeksie 043.0.8 Release * r63 : Tagging as 3.0.8 Release
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14:14.17tz8~last Elkano
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14:15.02Elkano~lart tz8
14:15.02purlgrabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats tz8 until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with
14:15.35nevcairiel~framexml
14:15.36purlGet the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/
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14:17.25Repo10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 8ab9d76 UnitFrameLayout.lua: [+1 commit] bugfix
14:18.39ckknightShefki: we're still fucked for Set Focus, btw.
14:19.46nevcairielthey are still planning to "fix" it by redoing the dropdown ui some day
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14:23.49Camcihow much sense does the new arena matching system do??
14:23.55Camcito me its totally fucking retarded
14:24.12Repo10elkbuffbars: 03Elkano * r148 EBB_Bar.lua: put some water on the drycode
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14:27.35Camciwow its so retarded
14:27.43Camciso fail
14:28.05Zyndromeand now you die in a flash if you meet an arcane mage
14:28.18Camciyou win 5-6 games and win about 30 stuoid points and then you loose one game and you lose all the 30 points you gained
14:28.20nevcairielyou know, you look kinda fail if you babble around here without even saying why :)
14:28.32Camcithats why
14:28.33Camci^
14:29.21nevcairielthey said there would be a few bumps at first until the system normalizes it self
14:31.07Camcisomehow its working tho but very retarded now atleast, 16 wins in a row XD
14:31.36nevcairielif you win that much, you're obviously alot better then your enemys, so if you lose, you deserve the loss
14:31.37nevcairiel:D
14:31.54Camcistill, not lose 30 points which took you 5 games to gain :p
14:32.25Camcithis one was lol, we won 1 point while  toehr team lost 25 hahaha
14:32.43nevcairielif you gain about 5 points per game, losing against a team like that would drop you about 25 .. in the old system anyway
14:32.48nevcairielno idea how the new works .P
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14:33.56Camcihow about thet last game then? won 1 point they lost 25
14:34.20nevcairielthats rather weird, before it was balanced
14:34.49Camcii guess it takes some time to balance teh whole new system but yea atm its rather funny and you dont wanna lose :P
14:35.37steevCamci: you want to lose other times?
14:36.01steevluckily, im in the 1300s brackets in 3s
14:36.06steev(have a shaman teammate)
14:36.52nevcairielyou still start at 1500? o.O
14:36.59Camcino but now its more extreme:P
14:37.24Arrowmasterwhat do you start at then?
14:37.24Fisker-seaking
14:37.25Fisker-fuck yeah
14:37.41nevcairieli guess still 1500
14:37.52nevcairieli dont see why people dont re-form the team when they drop way below that =P
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14:38.14Fisker-FUCK YEAH nevcairiel
14:38.27steev*shrug*
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14:38.45steevits mostly done as a thing when we're bored
14:38.54Arrowmasteri doubt the points difference is that much once you start going lower
14:39.53steevanyone know when they are gonna have WG fixeD?
14:39.59steevs/D/d
14:40.52steevlogged on to our server last night, had about 5 nodes taken before I could get to em, then world server go down
14:41.10steevso i said screw it and made a DK on a different server
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14:41.28Fisker-FUCK YEAH nevcairiel
14:41.31Fisker-i just got The Hallowed
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14:41.42ShotI want my runic power from oblit!
14:41.47ShotIt makes me sad :(
14:41.53Zyndromele broken
14:41.59ShotOn the positive side, 32rp frost strike = win
14:42.01viisualmeh, spec 5x/2x
14:42.01steevall the time it was pushed back
14:42.18steevyou'd think it might be a *tad* less buggy
14:42.44steevmy level 58 dk is critting hb for 8.5k
14:43.23steevwhich makes me kinda sad, cuz my 80 dk is almost epicced out, and only critted it for 7
14:43.32thulhmm
14:43.40thulsteev: link your spec :-P
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14:44.51steevtrying
14:45.04steevits 7/something/0 atm
14:45.25thulI don't get how you could crit HB for 8.5k :-P
14:45.28steevim not showing up on the armory
14:46.05viisualI crit HB for 10k =P
14:46.17steevlemme login to game here at work
14:46.22steevand screenshot my spec
14:46.30viisualIf you consider the total damage it does, 50,000 on trash pulls =P
14:48.27steev@project talented
14:48.29Reposteev: http://www.wowace.com/projects/talented/. Talented. Game: WoW. jerry (Manager/Author). Updated: 75 minutes ago. Tickets: 2/15
14:48.44ShotMy HB seems to be doing more this patch
14:48.52Shotand since Oblit is broken, I'm using it more too
14:49.05thulwe are talking PR hit now?
14:49.12thulbut it still is on CD right?
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14:49.20Shot5 seconds instead of the old 6
14:49.27thulach
14:49.29Shotalthough tolltip says no cd, it is there
14:49.32Shot*tooltip
14:49.48Shotand yes, HB can crit 10k :)
14:49.54Shothad a few in my OS10 run just now
14:50.04gixis The Winds of the North bugged? i got it and my rep list still shows revered with alliance vanguard
14:50.16steevgix: check achievements
14:50.21steevi logged in and got it
14:50.34steevoh wait
14:50.39steevhow are you still just revered?
14:52.04gixsteev: http://gix.myftp.org/pics/wow/vanguard1
14:52.45thulany mac/hackintoshusers having problems with installing the patch?
14:52.46steevno idea, i was exalted with them a long time ago
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14:54.14ckknightthul: no
14:54.17Repo10talented: 03kunda * r366 / (3 files in 2 directories): Talented:
14:54.19Repo- typo
14:54.21Repo- deDE update
14:54.58[Ammo]ckknight: http://www.trendygadget.com/2007/04/30/impressive-hello-kitty-keyboard/
14:55.06[Ammo]something for you at curse office? :)
14:55.48ckknightclearly superior to my current keyboard
14:56.24Gu1airthat could be a nice gift for valentine
14:56.28Repo10rapture: 03Julith * r3 / (2 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 2 lines)
14:56.30RepoRapture:
14:56.33Repo- updated shield value calculation for 3.08
14:56.35Repo- calculate expected rapture on players mana instead of targets (thanks blizzard!)
14:56.38Repo- fixed bug in shield tracking
14:57.12thulckknight: i found a thread :-P
14:57.15thulhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14498230540&sid=1&pageNo=2
14:57.34manygix: i think the key point is expedition vs vanguard
14:57.47Fisker-ckknight
14:57.49Fisker-i'm so awesome
14:57.54manyi got the achievement and iam exalted with expedition, but only revered with vanguard
14:58.37ckknightFisker-: I doubt tht
14:58.38ckknightthat*
14:58.42steevThis lovely Hello Kitty USB Keyboard features quick start button to access popular application in a better way.
14:58.50gixmany: yeah so am i. probably just buggy patch notes then
14:58.55steevin a better way.
14:59.02Fisker-http://i43.tinypic.com/epgeuq.jpg <-that's how awesome i am
14:59.19Gu1airmany: same here
14:59.24Gu1airits weird
14:59.25SunTsuckknight: So, what's your experience with your pgsql switch by now?
14:59.30manythe old achievement talks of expidition, not sure what the new one says
14:59.44ckknightSunTsu: anticlimactic and definitely the right decision
14:59.44manyexpedition, jesus, how many times ill mistype that today again
15:00.03Zeksiehehe.. craftlist2 is DCing me when ppl do !full... better update those links :|
15:00.20manyand maybe they meant vanguard, but did code expedition
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15:00.53thulckknight: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14498230540&sid=1&pageNo=1
15:00.53steevthul: http://steev.net/files/screenshots/turm-talent.png
15:01.07ckknightyes, thul, got it the first time you linked it
15:01.24thulthanks steev
15:01.26ckknightoh, different page
15:01.31thuloh, I did not remember I linked it anyway :/
15:01.33thulI'm the bozo.
15:01.36thulTEH bozo
15:02.09ckknightk
15:03.24Fisker-saw how awesome i am ckknight ?
15:03.31SunTsuckknight: OK, thanks for confirming what I expected ;)
15:03.32ckknightI sure did
15:03.35ckknightun-awesome, Fisker-
15:04.05ckknightSunTsu: hehe
15:04.07Fisker-WTF
15:04.11Fisker-blizzard ate my babies
15:04.24Fisker-Just took the liberty of cleaning out my addons directory
15:04.29Gu1airthey must have been ugly
15:04.43Fisker-i'm FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU'ing
15:04.56gixnice. i'm trapped in my stormcrest eagle
15:05.02ckknightSunTsu: yea, we had some issues, mostly turned out to be case sensitivity stuff, easily fixed. We also had an issue with trying to put data into fields that are too small. MySQL just truncated, Postgres bitches. We prefer the latter.
15:06.22Camcilol funny
15:06.31Camcigot almost 200 more personal raiting then team raiting
15:06.39Camcisomething aint right there :p
15:06.52gixa lot ain't right
15:08.07Camciany other DK pvper here? im wondering how much resillience is needed... i got 200 atm and it seems quiet fine for me i think
15:08.30Gu1airdk's dont need resilience
15:08.39Camciwhy? :p
15:08.44krkaKalroth is a DK_DK_pvp_DK
15:08.51Kalroth@#?%!
15:10.20steevCamci: *shrug* to be honest i don't notice a difference between wearing 494 and... 0
15:10.44Camciyea i can say the same tbh
15:10.53SunTsuckknight: Are you seeing performance improvement or any penalties?
15:11.04ckknightno more lockups
15:11.07ckknightthat's the big deal
15:11.10steevthe one fun thing about being in the low brackets
15:11.15ckknightand the DB server has been handling load quite nicely
15:11.23ckknightand doing a dump for a backup has been no trouble
15:12.37Camcisteev: heard about DK needs about 100 spell penetration
15:12.40Gu1airCamci: this is why http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=99375
15:12.44Camciyou bothered with that?
15:12.48steevCamci: er, what?
15:12.55Camcispell peentration
15:13.00steevno.  thats like taking spell power gear
15:13.07Camciwell
15:13.08steevdon't do it.
15:13.09Camcilike
15:13.15Camcichain of ice and stuff
15:13.19steevdon't make me stab you
15:13.51Camcithe world number 1 DK in arena has about 100 spell penet :/
15:14.10SunTsusteev: Yeah, DKs with +int, +spirit and spell power exist...
15:14.10Camcii guess it helps for not resisting chains of ice and etc
15:14.20steevCamci: interesting
15:14.52Camciyer
15:15.02ckknightFact: Carbonated soda is part of the vast, Jewish conspiracy
15:15.07Camciso im concidering if i shoudl or not get those +20 spell penet gems
15:17.12Repo10talented: 03TrAsHeR * r367 Locales/frFR.lua: frFR update
15:18.32Shot[SunTsu] steev: Yeah, DKs with +int, +spirit and spell power exist...
15:18.34ShotBURN THEM
15:18.36ShotQUICKLY
15:18.38steevShot: noes!
15:18.40krkaFact: Bears eat beets.
15:18.42steevwe need spirit!
15:18.56Shot*cry*
15:19.01steevsee!
15:19.09steevif your spirit was higher you wouldn't be crying!
15:19.29ShotI just want my obliterate to generate runic power, is it so much to ask?
15:19.55ShotMy DPS is higher than pre-patch anyway
15:19.55steevi thought it was... just 5 less than it was supposed to, or only 5
15:20.06steevi never use obliterate tbh
15:20.09Shotsomeimtes it generates 5, if i'm lucky
15:20.12Shotmost of the time 0
15:20.13SunTsuShot: So you don't need that rp ;)
15:20.14Shotshould be 15
15:20.33krkaFact: Bears can climb faster than they can run
15:20.38steevkrka: lies
15:20.59viisualtruth
15:21.12Shotsteev: 17/54/0, oblit is (was) the main single-target multi-rune ability!
15:21.14krkaFact: Bears eat beets
15:21.31Shotoh well
15:21.31steevShot: ah, i've never dpsed as frost until turm
15:21.35steevwell
15:21.39steevdual wield i did a bit
15:21.46steevbut i always prefered unholy
15:21.56ShotI enjoy the frost rotation
15:21.57steevbut now im going frost/blood
15:22.08steevim just not sure about unbreakable armor
15:22.27ShotOn the positive side, I still did 4k dps on Sarth 10
15:22.43steev10 str+like 5.2 ap from bladed armor
15:22.54Shot10% str isn't it?
15:22.57Repo10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r4917 Northrend/Malygos.lua: - deDE updates, this makes Malygos actually work
15:23.00Shotwhich is about 110 str for me
15:23.01Repo- tweaks
15:23.02steever, 10%
15:23.07steevtypo
15:23.24Shot220 ap and whatever extra ap from bladed armour, not bad for 1 rune
15:23.39Shoti'll generally pop it if i've got too many death runes going around
15:23.54Shothttp://hdimage.org/images/0e8r3cpmkyrgnt2xi89v_os10howlingblast.jpg
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15:24.21nevcairielyou can never have too many death runes
15:24.36steevwhat kind of crit % do you have?
15:24.44Shot30
15:24.49steevand ap?
15:24.54Shot3350
15:25.12Shotthat 2nd dk is unholy
15:25.23steevgah damn it
15:25.30steevi forgot i went back tank last night *sigh*
15:25.41Shot18% of my damage on that (that's just the recount from sartharion) went to adds, and 3% was ghoul
15:25.49Shot33% of his dmg was on adds, and 9% from ghoul
15:25.56Fisker-what the shit Shot ?
15:26.06ShotFisker-: I have no idea, but i'm loving it
15:26.07Fisker-nerf dk's of course
15:26.21Shotbut whiler we're on the subject, give me RP on oblit!
15:26.24Shot*while
15:26.30ShotSo I can do more damage!
15:26.44Shothttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Magtheridon&n=Vergar if you care
15:26.50Shoticons don't work, but tooltips seem to
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15:27.10Shotthat 3350 ap and 30% crit is with horn of winter up :)
15:27.39steevahh
15:28.06ShotI'm a bit high on hit, but i intend to replace my blue chest with t7 chest later today, so will be losing the hit on that
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15:28.20Fisker-http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Fiskerdin <-what the shit
15:28.45Shotlol
15:29.00ckknighthey all, who was having having sync issues?
15:29.01thulhey, you are at ravencrest Fisker- ?!
15:29.12thulI KNEW THAT YOU WERE MY RAVENCRESTBUDDY
15:29.17steevShot: hrm
15:29.19thulyou just don't want to admit it :-(
15:29.33steevShot: that looks like the spec i've been building out
15:29.35SunTsuI really wish you could trade one t7 set against another when you replace an item, e.g. t7.10 tank -> dd when replacing t7.10 with t7.25 on that slot ;)
15:29.36Fisker-:O?
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15:29.54steevSunTsu: wut
15:29.59Shotsteev: as I said, it's fun :)
15:30.06Shotseeing that 10k HB aoe :P
15:30.11SunTsusteev: Hey, let people have dreams ;)
15:30.19steevSunTsu: its not about dreams
15:30.54steevSunTsu: i really mean wut - i don't speak the english very well so i can't quite figure out what you're saying - dd?
15:31.05Shotdamage dealing
15:31.08Shotdps
15:31.20SunTsusteev: There are 2 t7.10 sets. One for damage, the other one for tanking
15:31.27steevright
15:31.33steevwait 7.10? why not 7.0?
15:31.39sacarasc10 man
15:31.40SunTsusteev: 10 man
15:32.20steevahh okay
15:32.20steevsorry, im not up on you crazy kids lingo
15:32.51sacarascI worked it out when I compared it with 7.25
15:33.23SunTsusacarasc: Yeah, took me some moments, too, after reading t7.10 and t7.25 in Mendeleev
15:34.08Elkanoare you trying to critizise me for that wording? :/
15:34.39SunTsusteev: And it just would be awesome, if you could trade one set item to an item from another set item of the same tier
15:35.24SunTsuElkano: Nope, it's just something you have to get used to. The moment you look at it you go "wtf?" and it comes clear after thinking about it
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15:36.41SunTsusteev: Like "Hey, I finally found a substitute for my t7.10 tanking breast plate, so I trade it in for the t7.10 dps breast plate" - only that it never will happen ;)
15:37.02steevyeah
15:37.21steevbecause then if you go tank, you just swap, need dps? swap again
15:37.32steevnot like its hard to get the heroism badges to get both
15:38.07SunTsusteev: Yeah, sure ;) Was merely some kind of joke, nothing I really expect to happen
15:38.44steevSunTsu: sorry, dealt with a difficult customer recently, joke radar is off
15:40.44manyheroism badges. hrm
15:40.54steevspeaking of which
15:41.01steevwas heroic UP bugged yesterday for anyone else?
15:41.05steevskadi specifically
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15:41.30steevthe event would reset as soon as it started
15:41.47SunTsusteev: Anybody not in the aisle?
15:42.01steevSunTsu: everyone was
15:42.08steevwe were fighting the first "group"
15:42.13steevand they just despawned
15:42.33SunTsusteev: I had something like that on rare occasions
15:42.45steevi have too
15:42.55steevwhen i was unholy and last one standing - i die, become ghoul - reset
15:43.04steevhe only had like 2k health left too :(
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15:45.55Shotsteev: that sounds like more of an issue with ghoul
15:46.28ShotThere's probably a small time between dying and coming back as a ghoul where you're untargettable - and if he can't target anyone, he'll reset (i suppose)
15:48.32steevShot: pretty much what we figured *shrug* we got him down anyway
15:48.42ckknight@curse pitbull4
15:48.43Repockknight: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/pitbull4.aspx
15:48.55steevhe also reset any time i'd call a ghoul
15:48.59Gu1airpackage failed to download pitbull4
15:50.00ckknightget it from wowace if you want it
15:50.06ckknightI needed the curse link
15:50.10ckknightsince it's not supposed to be on curse
15:50.21Gu1airlatest 18/01/1970....
15:50.56steevGu1air: yes, he wrote the addon back in '70, wow is just now catching up to his awesomeness
15:51.00ckknighttruth
15:51.11ckknight@project pitbull4
15:51.12Repockknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/. PitBull Unit Frames 4.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author), Shefki (Author), vangual (Author). Updated: 92 minutes ago. Tickets: 49/137
15:51.57ckknightI don't get how I have 137 tickets on an unreleased addon
15:52.02ckknightoh well
15:53.29Repo10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r143 LibLordFarlander-2.0.toc: LibLordFarlander-2.0:
15:53.31Repo- Fix the load order for non-embedded
15:54.02Gu1airprobably most of those tickets are requests
15:55.19dodgasb|work: lulz!
15:55.28sb|workdodga: :(
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15:56.10sb|workdodga: go, hurt him :/
15:56.15dodgaOh I will.
15:56.29sb|work+ make youtube video
15:56.53dodgaI'll send Boxxy over to do the messy work
15:57.05ckknighthere's a youtube video, sb|work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoP6HkxjS38
15:57.49AckisWorkcreates a new ticket for PB4 to use libfarlander-2.0
15:58.14Dark_Elfhahaha
15:58.24Pneumatusi've made an absolute killing making raise dead glyphs today :o
15:58.43sb|workckknight: mh.. i dont know if i should click that link here at work :o
15:58.51ckknight...you should
15:59.08sb|workokay, its youtube and not 4chat, but anyways
15:59.17sb|workcould be Fisker- on that video...
15:59.23sb|workah okay, boxxy :p
15:59.45Fisker-FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
15:59.59Fisker-Gm just told me that they had to remove my achievement again
16:00.05AckisWorkman imagine 4tube?
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16:00.08Fisker-i am having hate
16:00.15AckisWork(ps ckk it's 4chaN not chaT
16:00.20sb|workFisker-: which one?
16:00.31Fisker-Hallowed
16:00.35Fisker-The one they stoel from me
16:00.55AckisWorkwhy?
16:00.57AckisWorkWHY?
16:01.57durcynprobably because he's danish.
16:02.01steevbecause he was not hallowed.
16:04.36Fisker-AckisWork i was "OMG EXPLOITING"
16:04.50ShotPneumatus: really?
16:04.54AckisWorkyou always are exploiting
16:05.00Fisker-no
16:05.01ShotI made one for myself and then didn't think about it
16:05.11PneumatusShot: yeh, no one else is selling them on my realm and im getting 100g a pop
16:05.14Pneumatusfor like 1g mats
16:05.25Fisker-Of course double standards are awesome
16:05.45Fisker-Just as a bullshit experiment i exploited the SHIT out of the winter veil event
16:05.47Fisker-Didn't get banned
16:06.19AckisWorkhow did you exploit it?
16:06.34Fisker-To get more than one mistletoe at a time?
16:07.08AckisWorkthe halloween one
16:07.12durcynreported
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16:07.19steevreported for reporting
16:07.32manyso how did you exploit?
16:07.42manyjust so i know this time what to do to get the achievement
16:07.45steevhe ran exploit.com
16:08.17Fisker-AckisWork spammed trick or treat of course
16:08.43durcynwhat, the winter veil?  you can macro the emote on the two revelers and get the reward twice per cooldown
16:08.54durcynit's existed for years
16:09.03ShotPneumatus: lucky, i haven't even sold an arcane blast for 20g
16:09.08Shotraise dead are 10
16:09.32ShotAckisWork: want new glyph IDs?
16:09.39Fisker-and it will apparently continue to do so durcyn
16:09.40Shotor do you have them all ready to go?
16:09.45AckisWorkShot: got em already just am lazy right now
16:09.47Fisker-Since Blizzard is only selectively against exploitation
16:09.49AckisWork(aka playing facebook)
16:09.51Shot:)
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16:10.00Fisker-"Oh you exploited hallow's end? Fuck you"
16:10.11Fisker-"Oh you did the exact same thing with Winter's Veil? Go you"
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16:10.55manybad boy. 96h ban
16:11.12steevbah, its all retarded because if you have full bags
16:11.18manywhat, you did login within the 96h? cheater!
16:11.18steevyou get the debuff but no items
16:11.23Camcinoice, doing strand, and next second im in the graveyard in the barrens
16:11.52Pneumatusturns out horde smell, fact.
16:12.34si-m1like steak
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16:13.11manynews at 11.
16:15.09dafihi, could anyone tell me were I can find a list of UI changes in 3.0.8? tried wowace and wow forums and can't find anyhting :(
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16:15.54vhaarrwowcompares.com
16:16.22durcynoh, is 9464 up yet?
16:16.58Pneumatusnope
16:17.06Pneumatus9438 is still the latest
16:17.41dafidid things change so that getglobal isn't needed anymore?
16:18.24vhaarrgetglobal was never needed except for looking up dynamic keys in the global scope back when we didn't know about getfenv
16:18.30Repo10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r108 TestAlpha.lua: Blah!
16:18.32vhaarryou can reference things directly
16:19.17dafieh eh :) tbh not exacly sure what i'm doing, just fixing an error in AuldLangSyne/Note.lua :p
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16:19.26Repo10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r109 thing.dat: add thing.dat
16:21.14dafivhaarr: thanks for your help, seems fixed now :)
16:21.35vhaarrnot like I helped :P if you want help you can paste your code on paste.wowace.com, for example
16:22.12dafiafaik i can tell the code gets getfenv(0) to a _G and then calls stuff from it like a dictonary :p
16:22.22vhaarrindeed
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16:22.51dafichanged the error line to get it directly (not from dictonary) and now no error, my only concern is if there's other places that need change too
16:23.15vhaarrsvn diff and post it on paste.wowace.com, sounds to me like you did something wrong there
16:23.22ckknightwoo
16:23.24dafiO.o
16:23.30ckknightnow you can't commit wowmatrix.dat to repos
16:23.30dafik, sec
16:23.35ckknight...because someone did
16:24.16dafijust need to figure out out to checkout from wowace :p
16:25.19durcynany diff will do, it doesn't have to be from svn
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16:27.53Toadkillerdafi: the proper thing to do instead of getglobal now is local _G = getfenv(0) ... local myGlobal = _G["Some Globals Name"].  Note that it is most likely faster to squirrel away local instances of your global to use.
16:28.30vhaarrToadkiller: if you read what he said, that's exactly what he did
16:28.31dafivhaarr: there ya go http://www.wowace.com/paste/180/
16:28.51dafithat's what the code did
16:29.00Toadkillervhaarr: Only if I actually read that, which I did not
16:29.06Toadkillertill now
16:29.08vhaarrToadkiller: hence why I pointed it out to you :P
16:29.12dafisomething changed in 3.0.8 :p
16:29.16vhaarrdafi: looks good
16:29.26nevcairielreading -> thinking -> writing
16:29.28Toadkillersuper helpful while I still contemplate my cafeine run for the morning!
16:29.29nevcairielnot in another order!
16:29.30dafihttp://wowcompares.com/0089438/FrameXML/FriendsFrame.lua?diff=3039183
16:29.46dafifrom what i get from that link now you don't use getenv
16:29.59dafibut i'm guessing tbh
16:30.44vhaarryour patch is perfect, feel free to commit it
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16:31.09dafiya sure O.o
16:31.17dafidon't want to step on anyone's toes
16:32.54nevcairielals was kemayo's or? havent seen him active for quite a while
16:33.12nevcairieli doubt he would mind any obvious fixes
16:33.36vhaarryes, kemayo
16:33.40vhaarrdafi: like I said, commit
16:33.55dafikk
16:34.07AckisWorkdafi: I think you should commit
16:34.19steevITSATRAP
16:35.05nevcairieloh hey ackis, my babble script thing seemed to work fine
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16:37.11dafiseems my wowace login isn't accepted on curseforge :p
16:37.32ckknightit is.
16:37.39gixcan you leave the dk starting zone right away or do you have to finish the event there first?
16:37.49mftidafi: Your tongue will dry out if you keep waggling it in the air like that ;)
16:37.56dafisorry, bad habits ><
16:38.52Stanzilla~seen tekkub
16:38.58purltekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 20h 32m 24s ago, saying: 'hum'.
16:39.04Stanzilla:[
16:39.43onaforeign|AFK~seen onaforeignshore
16:39.44purlonaforeignshore <n=onaforei@cpc3-stok13-0-0-cust19.bagu.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 14h 40m 8s ago, saying: 'see you in 5 minutes'.
16:39.53nevcairielbtw
16:39.59nevcairielnew moonfire animation = teh awesome
16:40.15dafiwell i'm using my wowace login and it's being refused, i guess i'm missing something
16:40.39dafigona check the faq
16:40.46nevcairielsvn has a special pw
16:40.53nevcairielgo to your account and set it
16:41.45dafithanks, that was it
16:42.44Repo10auldlangsyne: 03daf2 * r218 Note/Note.lua:
16:42.46RepoAuldLangSyne: patching the way UIDROPDOWNMENU_INIT_MENU gets called for 3.0.8 (reference: http://wowcompares.com/0089438/FrameXML/FriendsFrame.lua?diff=3039183)
16:42.47zoktarnyone know if Judgements of the Pure: This Holy talent now increases the damage done by Seals and Judgements. , works on SoC ?
16:43.54ckknightwe need a new poll for wowace. anyone have any ideas?
16:44.09PProvostMost annoying change in the new patch?
16:44.38Stanzillagood idea
16:44.44ckknightha
16:44.50ckknightbut no, we want to keep it lighthearted
16:47.48dafihum, AckisWork asked me to "tag" it, anyone as the patience to tell me what that entails?
16:48.16nevcairielackis is a crazy person
16:48.48dafinevcairiel: you don't say...
16:49.01nevcairielhe could've at least explained :P
16:49.01onaforeignshoreGroupCalendar has the same problem : getglobal(UIDROPDOWNMENU_INIT_MENU)
16:49.31ckknightdafi: tagging a repository?
16:49.32dafijust remove getglobal() and it should work fine
16:50.11dafihum, i know how to create a svn tag, but I'm not sure why he'd want me to do it... wowace svn is allot more complex then anything i've used svn for.
16:50.28vhaarrdafi: just edit the file and mark it as release
16:50.37vhaarrdafi: through wowace.com/projects/projectname
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16:52.47Toadkillerdafi: the repository link from that project page has the tag stuff u need, also read the help page on how to tag with the keywords required.
16:53.00onaforeignshoredafi: already did that and it works 100% - just letting you all know
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16:54.23dafii'm still reading the faq trying to figure it out, sorry
16:54.37vhaarrdafi: forget about the tag already
16:54.49vhaarrdafi: why do you make me repeat myself again?
16:54.51vhaarr<vhaarr> dafi: just edit the file and mark it as release
16:54.51vhaarr<vhaarr> dafi: through wowace.com/projects/projectname
16:55.22vhaarr(presuming we're still talking about auldlangsyne)
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16:56.04vhaarractually
16:56.10dafivhaarr: Sorry, i'm really trying but i don't see any option on the page :S
16:56.14Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1418 RecipeDB (2 files in 1 directory): Add mising inscriptions and a missing enchnat.
16:56.20vhaarrseems you can't edit files unless you're a manager on the project
16:56.23vhaarrckknight: is that true?
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16:56.50ckknighthmm, that seems wrong
16:56.52nevcairielits true
16:56.52ckknightlemme check
16:56.57vhaarrdafi: I'm just used to the old wowace where access was truly free for all
16:57.02dafii figured as much too, i was still reading the faq to see if i missed something... i don't like to ask for obvious stuff
16:57.31ckknightAuthors can manage files
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16:58.06nevcairielyeah but he is "nothing" :p
16:58.08nevcairielof course he cannot :)
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16:58.27vhaarrthat's not a given
16:58.34dafiei, i'm a something!
16:58.38vhaarras long as the repo is free for all, why should the files be any different?
16:59.24ckknightdafi: only if you believe you are.
16:59.29dafimaybe because the files are seen as "official" releases and not just current state of developement... so in a way considered author aproved
16:59.50dafickknight: indeed i do
17:00.05vhaarrdafi: no
17:00.20vhaarrdafi: that's why he wanted you to svn tag it, because with a tag, you can make a release automatically
17:00.22nevcairielckknight: did we ever get the block on non-author-tags on open repos?
17:00.32ckknightno, but I might be doing that today
17:00.37vhaarrdafi: so as long as you have access to the repo, you have indirect control of the files anyway
17:00.46vhaarrckknight: <vhaarr> as long as the repo is free for all, why should the files be any different?
17:00.50ckknightnot for long, vhaarr
17:00.57vhaarrcool
17:00.57Fisker-slaps vhaarr around a bit with a large trout
17:01.32nevcairielbecause even on open repos joe user is not supposed to tag and release stuff
17:01.49nevcairieltagging through the repo was just never blocked, yet
17:01.56dafiso just to make it clear, i cannot tag it. right?
17:02.09vhaarryou can
17:02.13nevcairieltechnically, right now you can, but you shouldnt
17:02.17nevcairieli edited the file
17:02.21nevcairielto release
17:02.31vhaarrdafi: you're done then, nev did it for you
17:03.10dafithanks nev, i'm very confused right now
17:04.24SunTsunevcairiel: Now you can add "confuser of people" to your sig, too ;)
17:05.07ckknightfunny: http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/01/marsrover.html
17:06.56nevcairielSunTsu: I'm good at that
17:09.07Repo10talented: 03jerry * r368 tips.lua:
17:09.10RepoFix GetSpellLink(), which for some reason, does not work on some spells.
17:10.25SunTsuI hope jerry is done, soon, so I can finally update talented ;)
17:11.08Pneumatuscant be far off a release, hes been playing around all day :)
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17:11.45quiescensmoo
17:11.54SunTsuPneumatus: Yeah, I noticed, and I just wait for him to stop ;)
17:13.39gixcan you spririt-rez at a different spirit healer?
17:14.49quiescensdon't think so
17:15.43durcynno, but attempting to do so should teleport you back to the graveyard you're bound to
17:17.12Toadkilleronce you get a certain distance from the rez point it shoudl disapear from your map or minimap so you become a lost soul
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17:24.38manyheh
17:24.51Repo10libhealcomm-3-0: 03jlam * r38 LibHealComm-3.0.lua: Druid fixes for 3.0.8:
17:24.53Repo- Nourish also gets 20% boost when player's Wild Growth is on target.
17:25.22manythat reminds me of early teldrassil when i left the map through the ground and my spirit just did the same
17:29.14steevWhy does Snoop Dogg wear a raincoat?
17:29.14steevFo' drizzle!
17:29.29Hirsute<PROTECTED>
17:31.02Pneumatusnow they have changed the way scrolls get knocked off, do they stack with other buffs, or do you get a really weak scroll rather than a proper buff?
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17:33.34ckknightsteev: lol
17:35.29Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1419 AckisRecipeList.lua:
17:35.32RepoDry-coded rewrite of text-dump to make it super faster! Fo' drizzle!
17:36.06Repo10talented_data: 03jerry * r193 / (13 files in 2 directories):
17:36.09Reporegenerate for 3.0.8 (WARNING, will only work with latest version of Talented)
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17:38.51ckknightlol, AckisWork
17:38.57jnwhitehhttp://apidiff.pastey.net/106716
17:38.58ckknighthey netcurse
17:39.26Pneumatushmm, i feel like ive lost some crit
17:40.05quiescensrun!
17:40.25Pneumatusim sure i was just over 30%, not under
17:41.47steevwoo, my rma card came back, woo 3 computers that can play wow
17:42.07Fisker-lol
17:42.07dafihum... how does one parse a string with an itemlink only leaving the human readable text?
17:42.14Fisker-my spiked titanhelm have the previous socket enchant as well
17:42.26Fisker-win = win
17:42.38dafihum... does anyone know how to parse a string with an itemlink only leaving the human readable text?
17:42.48dafiforgot how to write for a sec there
17:43.06AckisWorkdafi: check out wowwiki, the have an example exactly like that
17:44.03dafiAckisWork: thanks
17:44.16AckisWorkckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/324-upon-startup-i-get-an-error-report-from-arl/ the error in that wouldn't be because of cartographer by any chance?
17:44.25AckisWork(doesn't think so but I'm stumped)
17:44.43ckknightno, that seems like your bad
17:45.09AckisWorkit's not a my bad though
17:45.19AckisWorkscan skills long was a locale string I had pre-wrath
17:45.59Pneumatusthe latest ARL alphas arent erroring at all for me AckisWork
17:46.19AckisWorkaye, this user stated that when they disabled other mods the error went away
17:46.30AckisWorkso either it's coincidence or keyboard/user interface error
17:46.33Pneumatusi bet they have the Bang! shit installed
17:46.46steevbang?
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17:47.11Pneumatussome dodgy crap with modified ace libs
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17:47.24Pneumatusalthough, that ticket shows its using ARL libs specifically anyway
17:48.14AckisWorkI should just blame rock eh? :P
17:48.54Repo10talented: 03jerry * r369 / (2 files in 1 directory): fix StaticDialog button
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17:49.35Zhinjiog'morning
17:49.53nevcairielit could be your fault ackis :P
17:50.00Repo10talented: 03jerry 04v1.9.4-beta1 * r370 : Tagging as v1.9.4-beta1
17:50.23steevyay new talented <3
17:50.34Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1420 / (2 files in 1 directory):
17:50.36steev*love* that addon
17:50.37RepoAdd in profession checking for the text-dump... well I don't check the profession, I just pass it now and print it out, not sure if that'll actually work however, since all this shit is 100% dry-coded.  Oh yah I also changed the mine info thingy to work with the new code. Fo' drizzle!
17:50.45AckisWorknevcairiel: it's never my fault
17:50.49AckisWorkit's always gnomes fault
17:50.55AckisWork(and how could it be my fault?)
17:51.08steevyou did not seriously add Fo' drizzle! to your changelog
17:51.20PneumatusAckisWork: in that specific beta, there was no enUS translation for "Scan Skills Long" but it was still used on line 305 of AckisRecipeList.lua
17:51.23nevcairielwhy the hell do you block some guild from using ARL? o.O
17:51.29Repo10talented_data: 03jerry 043.0.8-9464-beta-1-for-1.9.4-only * r194 : Tagging as 3.0.8-9464-beta-1-for-1.9.4-only
17:51.34steevnevcairiel: cuz some guild are not worthy
17:51.43AckisWorknevcairiel: they're dumbasses
17:51.44Pneumatusso, it is a bug but doesnt exist in alphas
17:52.31AckisWorkomg I see what it is
17:52.34AckisWorku r smrt
17:53.10Pneumatusthat string was in the esES and esMX locale files though :o
17:53.15Pneumatusjust not any of the other locales
17:53.33AckisWorkyah it was removed a while ago and esES hasn't been fully maintained
17:53.56Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1421 AckisRecipeList.lua: Fix the locale error with Manufac. Fo' drizzle!
17:54.07AckisWorkreason why this has never cropped up before is because I don't use manufac
17:54.15Pneumatusnor me :o
17:55.57AckisWorkPneumatus: wanna grab r1241 and see if it loads?
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17:57.10Pneumatusi dont use manufac so it wouldnt error for me anyway
17:57.36AckisWorknot worried about that error
17:57.39AckisWorkI rewrote shit
17:57.57Pneumatuslet me see if the curse client wants to offer that to me
17:58.47AckisWork@describe holywrit
17:58.48RepoAckisWork: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/holywrit/. Holy Writ. Holy Writ is a project that will allow you to read scriptures while you are traveling or during other down time. This is just an idea I currently have and not a full working version yet. Hopefully...
17:59.11Pneumatuswill wait for the cc to offer it, as i dont want to upset it manually updating
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17:59.36AckisWork*nod* let me know what happens please and press shift-click to do a scan and see if stuff blows up
18:00.02quiescensultimately, wouldn't it potentially be easier to read a physical book if you're using the computer for a game
18:00.15steevquiescens: not really
18:01.01Pneumatusif you're travelling would you have internet access to be able to run WoW to read them :o
18:01.19steevi believe the traveling means "in flight"
18:01.25steevsome of those damn flights take ages
18:01.33Pneumatusoh, people still use flightpaths?
18:01.42steevthose of us who lack epic flying yeah
18:01.46Pneumatusand anyway, i thought that was what bejeweled was for!
18:01.55steevdoes it work with 3.0.8?!
18:02.01steevmust download that, i keep meaning to
18:02.10AckisWorkremember that poker game/
18:02.14Pneumatusyeh, never stopped working
18:02.18Pneumatusthe poker game is on cf somewhere as well
18:02.18steevand besides, if someone wants to read the bible instead of play bejeweled, whats wrong with that
18:02.52Pneumatusarguably a lot
18:02.56Pneumatusbut thats a whole other debate
18:03.06steevhmm
18:03.21steevwhats the next step down so that its not massively blurry on a 1680x1050 screen
18:05.28steevyou could make a killing
18:05.41steevyou convert holywrit to... college text books!
18:05.47steevstudy WHILE YOU PLAY
18:05.52AckisWorklol
18:06.06*** join/#wowace Aeyan (n=pancake@cpe-071-076-230-073.triad.res.rr.com)
18:06.07steevjust wiped on a boss? no problem, you got that exam tomorrow you needed to brush up on
18:06.14ZaoNow just embed a C++ IDE and I'll finally have a good environment to develop in.
18:06.45steevyep, ankahet and azjol'nerub are the debugger areas
18:07.06ZaoDon't forget AQ.
18:07.20steevno one does aq anymore
18:07.33ZaoI did, last night :)
18:07.37steevactually, on my server no one does Oculus or Ankahet heroic :(
18:07.58steevand azjol nerub is just fucking weird, at least the first boss
18:08.02ZaoI'm in a newbie guild without raiding experience though, so that's explainable.
18:08.03Pneumatusthey take too long
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18:09.26steevits not because they take too long though
18:10.09ZaoWhy then?
18:11.00Pneumatus~whalecrit AckisWork
18:11.17purlACTION crits AckisWork with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. AckisWork dies
18:11.18Repo10talented: 03jerry * r371 / (2 files in 1 directory): rename methods to GetTalent...()
18:11.20RepoTalented_Data does not need to have icons anymore
18:11.30Pneumatus[2009/01/21 18:10:32-1696-x1]: AckisRecipeList-1.0 RC1 1421\AckisRecipeList.lua:2177: 'end' expected (to close 'function' at line 1685) near '<eof>'
18:14.07Fisker-is recount bugged in 3.0.8?
18:14.36Fisker-oh awesome
18:14.38Fisker-i got no combat log
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18:16.34steevnone?
18:16.54Fisker-nope
18:16.59Fisker-it's blank
18:18.02Fisker-weird
18:18.05Fisker-relogging solved it
18:18.48Repo10talented_data: 03jerry * r195 / (11 files in 2 directories): further reduce size by removing icons from the database
18:20.25NivFreakZeksie: is there a newer version of zomgbuffs that doesn't throw lua errors on 3.0.8?
18:20.44Repo10talented: 03jerry * r372 talents.lua: remove icons from the generated database too
18:21.16Fisker-3.0.8 version NivFreak
18:22.03AckisWorkPneumatus: ty... are you a JC btw?
18:22.04NivFreakreleased last night?
18:22.22Pneumatusnot on the character i've got loaded atm
18:22.30Pneumatusi have all professions over all my chars tho
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18:24.29AckisWorkPneumatus: I can't find that error :P
18:24.46Pneumatusme neither
18:25.00Pneumatusjust folded the whole file in np++ and all the end's appear to be present :o
18:25.16AckisWorkit compiles with luac -p as well, plus the svn took it
18:26.10NeoTronanyone raid with a really good boomkin?
18:26.25durcynNeoTron: Maybe.
18:26.49NivFreakNeoTron: I have a decent enough one
18:27.18Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1422 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fehck for the pprofisson. Fo' drizzle!
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18:28.02AckisWorkthat was a wicked commit note
18:28.11NeoTronI am curious what kind of dps they can put out in an optimal situation
18:28.24NeoTronto see if ours is just not very good or they suffer similarily to shdow priests
18:28.40quiescensshadow priests aren't doing too badly are they
18:28.55NeoTronoh I had fun last night. raiding as unholy tank as usual but I picked up perma ghoul and gargoyle for when I dps
18:29.09NeoTronghoul worked fine, using no reagents, until the 4HM
18:29.22NeoTronafter that I couldn't summon it anymore due to missing reagent...
18:29.24Repo10talented: 03jerry * r373 spell.lua:
18:29.26Repofix spell link generation. Blizzard GetSpellLink() restriction is stupid.
18:29.28quiescenslol
18:29.31NeoTronquiescens: they seem to max out around 4500-4800 DPS
18:29.57NivFreakboomkins really get screwed by movement
18:30.00quiescensI imagine 4800 is pretty reasonable
18:30.04NivFreaksame as shadow priests
18:30.13quiescenshow so?
18:30.14NivFreakand yea, I'd say 4800 isn't bad for a boomkin
18:30.15NeoTronquiescens: it's a lot lower than other classes
18:30.22NeoTronand I'm talking patchwerk here
18:30.25NeoTrontheer's no movement there
18:30.31NivFreakyep
18:30.36quiescensits a lot lower that specific other classes probably
18:30.38NivFreaknot all classes can do 6k
18:30.39NivFreak;)
18:31.04NeoTronrelatively speaking the different is a lot larger than what blizzard stated they wanted it to me
18:31.07NeoTronso I still think SP'
18:31.12NeoTronat least SP's are screwed up
18:31.42Repo10sell-junk: 03CrazyBenny * r55 / (2 files in 1 directory): - fixed library loading, for last time!
18:31.52NeoTroncurrently it's a difference of 1000+ dps or over 20%
18:32.04NeoTrondidn't they say within 5-10% was their desired goal?
18:32.17NivFreakyou have to discount hunters, fury warriors, and DKs from your comparison
18:32.23NivFreaksince they've stated they want them nerfed
18:32.31quiescensall they really said is that they haven't got some specific % that they are willing to give people
18:32.35quiescenslol
18:32.39NeoTronthey already nerfed hunters, dk(dw) at least
18:32.57NivFreakthey tried to at least :)
18:33.02NeoTronour dk's aren't exactly rocking the meters atm
18:33.09NeoTronalthough it might be an issue of spec and gear
18:33.14NivFreakyour Dks weren't before either :P
18:33.22NivFreakI'll let you know how ours goes tonight
18:33.33NivFreakmy boomkin does ~4500 on patchwerk
18:33.34NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/251tscdb1o32a?s=53169-80085 elemental DPS seems quite fixd though
18:33.39NivFreakbut he's got some crappy gear still
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18:34.52NivFreaksurvival seems really strong in 3.0.8
18:35.00NivFreakbut I haven't seen the result of the nerfs on BM/MM
18:35.25NivFreakmy bear tank is up to 55K health buffed
18:35.28NivFreakgogo 3drakes
18:36.41NivFreakI wish the armory wouldn't strip bear form / frost presence off =/
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18:38.06NivFreakNeoTron: does the armory seem to include rune of the stoneskin gargoyle in your character sheet?
18:38.35Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1423 AckisRecipeList.lua:
18:38.38RepoMinor tweaks with an onenable message identifying this as RC1 and to submit database reports.  This message will go away with release. :P Fo' drizzle!
18:38.38steevNivFreak: it does
18:38.52NivFreaksteev: odd
18:39.02steevhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Draka&n=Steev
18:39.25durcynstabs AckisWork
18:39.39steevwait
18:39.48steevokay, it shows up - but the defense is off
18:40.24AckisWorkdurcyn: what'd I do?
18:40.24NivFreakright
18:40.27NivFreakoff by 25 skill
18:40.29steevoh wait, no its not
18:40.33steevi don't have my ring on
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18:40.42steevwell, it *might* be
18:40.47NivFreakit's not
18:40.54NivFreakmy DKs is off by 25 skill
18:41.30quiescensexcuses
18:41.39steevyeah, it shows up on the armory, but the numbers don't match
18:42.54Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1424 AckisRecipeList.lua:
18:42.56RepoFix a missing @ with a end-debug, which caused the entire file to be commented out roflz.  Fo' drizzle!
18:43.25quiescens.o
18:43.26kenlyricI would like to stab you in the eye, fo drizzle
18:43.32StanzillaAckisWork: nub <3
18:43.36AckisWorklol
18:43.36epswelp
18:43.40quiescenso.o
18:44.33steevmoar dots
18:45.06quiescens.
18:46.45quiescenswarriors need staff spec imo
18:48.08steevagreed
18:48.16steevgimme back my 2h weapons damn it
18:48.42NivFreakso what's this I hear about the CC client not pulling updates on win32 either?
18:48.45steevmake the warriors slug it out with the druids, i already have to fight the huntards
18:49.15steevNivFreak: we don't know - what did you hear?
18:49.15NivFreakwhat class?
18:49.28steevNivFreak: uh, dk?
18:49.29PneumatusCC beta is pulling updates fine :o
18:50.27quiescensits all  a figment of your imagination
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18:52.01NivFreak2.0.0.15 is beta?
18:52.05NivFreakor that's the old alpha
18:52.23AckisWorkthat's old
18:52.28AckisWork~curseclient
18:52.29purlit has been said that curseclient is New beta released at: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/files/5-curse-client-2-1-1-2-beta-1-update-exe-only/ Post all suggestions at http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/
18:52.29NivFreakok, I'll smack them
18:52.35NivFreakapparently there's a curse thread abou tit
18:52.55Repo10expeller: 03dekimsey * r15 / (3 files in 2 directories): Expeller:
18:52.58Repo- Included the locales directory that I somehow managed to forget in my last commit.
18:53.03steev@project expeller
18:53.04Reposteev: http://www.wowace.com/projects/expeller/. Expeller. Game: WoW. dekimsey (Manager/Author). Updated: 9 days ago
18:53.29NeoTronexpeller.. yeah that's some project
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18:53.49steevwow thats kinda spiffy
18:53.50NeoTronI have had a locally hacked version for it to make it work
18:53.58NeoTronI don't know if that version actually works now
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18:54.32steevdamn it, my new dk still isn't showing up on the armory
18:54.37NeoTronit's invaluable for sure but it's been incredibly buggy where the ol' prospector worked perfectly so yeha I'd say that guy isn't quite the same level of a developer
18:54.42AckisWork@describe expeller
18:54.44RepoAckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/expeller/. Expeller. Provides a macro that can be used to grind Prospecting (Jewelcrafting) and Milling (Inscription) on the materials in ones inventory. It will try to find the next highest stack that can be processed...
18:54.48NeoTronoh btw speaking of DK - this patch gave me a hell of a lot more health
18:54.58steevsame
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18:55.04steevim at 28k unbuffed
18:55.07NeoTronthe 2% health enchant, 40 stamina to bracers ftw
18:55.12NeoTronI'm at 33k
18:55.22NivFreakhttp://www.curse.com/client/ <-- that really needs to be removed or updated
18:55.51kenlyricisn't that the last stable release?
18:55.54NivFreakNeoTron: not bad, I'm at 33.7K unbuffed
18:55.55NivFreakkenlyric: hahaha
18:56.17kenlyricthe one in the subject line is an RC, and the one purl gabs about is a beta
18:56.24NivFreakNeoTron: I also switched to using the new gladiator shoulder enchant
18:56.32NeoTronwhich is what?
18:56.36NivFreak30 stam, 15 resil
18:56.46steevwhere you get that?
18:56.49NivFreak10,000 honor
18:56.52NivFreakhall of legends or whatever
18:56.54steevahh
18:56.58NeoTronwhat's the normal tanking one at?
18:57.05NeoTrondodge/def?
18:57.06steev40/20
18:57.11NivFreakexalted hodir is 20 dodge, 15 def
18:57.15NivFreakwhich is meh
18:57.18steevis it 20/15?
18:57.21NivFreakyes
18:57.22NeoTrongood pointer
18:57.24NeoTron30 stamina ftw
18:57.26NivFreakyea
18:57.27NeoTronI'll pick that up
18:57.38NivFreakand 15 resil is worth about 20 def rating
18:57.41NeoTronI didn't try a blood tank spec yet
18:57.42NivFreakin terms of uncritable
18:57.49NeoTronyeah. not quite as good though
18:57.55NivFreakno avoidance yea
18:57.57NivFreakbut honestly
18:57.59NeoTrondef increases icebound fortitude too :P
18:58.03NeoTronit doesn't matter, yes
18:58.04NivFreakit doesn't matter on most fights
18:58.05NeoTron30 stam is better
18:58.20NivFreakthere's all of 1 fight right now where it makes sense to stack more avoidance
18:58.32steevthere is?
18:58.41NivFreakpatchwerk as OT
18:59.09NeoTronI couldn't keep up threat with the druid OT for some reason this time
18:59.21NeoTronlast time I was at or above the threat of the MT
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18:59.24steevbecause they buffed the shit out of them
19:00.06steevfucking Swipe(Cat) hits for 2.5K per mob
19:00.19Repo10expeller: 03dekimsey * r16 Expeller.toc: Expeller:
19:00.21Repo- version update.
19:00.35NivFreakNeoTron: neither my druid nor my DK can keep threat high enough for me
19:00.38NivFreakdps has no problem at least
19:00.43NivFreakI get 2 hand of salvs as OT
19:00.46Repo10expeller: 03dekimsey 04v1.3.1 * r17 : Tagging as v1.3.1
19:01.52AckisWork~api GetTradeSkillInfo
19:01.53purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetTradeSkillInfo
19:02.11NeoTronstill want to try a blood tank spe
19:02.27NeoTronjust didn't feel like experimenting last nigh, especially with obliterate being borked
19:02.54NivFreakyea
19:03.03NivFreakso scourage strike was fine it looked like
19:03.08NivFreakso was it just obliterate
19:03.08NivFreak?
19:03.13Torhal!api GetTradeSkillInfo
19:03.14lua_botDocumentation for 'GetTradeSkillInfo' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetTradeSkillInfo
19:03.19steevscourge strike is awesome
19:04.19AckisWorkif I have function foo(table) local a = table.bar;a = 5 end will table.bar be 5 after that function is called?
19:04.52AckisWorkI don't know what the local a = table will do to me
19:04.54NeoTronso I did 6300 DPS on Thaddius, excluding the ghoul which did ...  about 470 DPS
19:05.01NivFreaknice
19:05.02NivFreakas unholy?
19:05.06NeoTronso 6770 DPS as unholy tank spec
19:05.15NivFreakWWS?
19:05.17NivFreakoh wait
19:05.26NivFreaker, yea
19:05.28NivFreakWWS!
19:05.36NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/251tscdb1o32a?s=157941-191247&m
19:05.47NeoTronand my armory currently has my somewhat bad dps set
19:05.53NivFreakoh, on thaddius
19:05.54NeoTronbeing mainly tank I don't get a whole lot of upgrades
19:05.54NivFreakI misread
19:05.55Pneumatuslua> foo.bar=0; function f(t) local a = t.bar; a=5 end; print(f(foo))
19:05.55lua_botPneumatus: luabot:1: attempt to index global 'foo' (a nil value)
19:06.01NeoTronI OT patchwerk :P
19:06.12NivFreakright
19:06.15Pneumatusfail.
19:06.30NivFreakso is blainos MM?
19:06.36NeoTronyeah
19:06.42NeoTronnew recruit of unknown quality
19:06.45NivFreakah
19:06.56NeoTrondon't think he's very well geared but yeah
19:07.00NeoTronthis is like his second raid with us
19:07.16NeoTronso I beat the druid for DPS... who was p1 tank :P
19:07.24NivFreakyour survival hunter seems low too
19:07.31NivFreakI'll see how mine do tonight
19:07.45NeoTronit's not the most hunter friendly fight
19:07.53NeoTronpets don't get the damage buff and range can be iffy
19:07.57NivFreakI'm looking at patchwerk and commenting still
19:07.58NivFreaksorry
19:07.59NivFreak;P
19:08.18onaforeignshorelua> t = {} ; t.b=0; function f(t) local a=t.b; a=5; end; print(f(t))
19:08.18lua_botonaforeignshore: No output
19:08.27NeoTronthey nerfed hunters a lot
19:08.38NeoTronso might just be the newe balance
19:08.43AckisWorklua> function f(foo) local a = foo.bar;a = 5 end; test = {}; test.bar = 0; print(f(test))
19:08.44lua_botAckisWork: No output
19:08.44NeoTronall our hunters are 2 weeks or less though
19:09.05NivFreakNeoTron: well, I saw numbers like that out of one of my hunters in a 25man vault pug last night
19:09.08onaforeignshorelua> t = {} ; t.b=0; function f(ft) local a=ft.b; a=5; end; print(f(t))
19:09.09lua_botonaforeignshore: No output
19:09.15NivFreakso I'd expect more on patchwerk in a proper raid comp
19:09.18AckisWorklua> function f(foo) local a = foo.bar;a = 5 end; test = {}; test.bar = 0; print(test.bar); f(test); print(test.bar)
19:09.19NivFreakwe'll see though
19:09.19lua_botAckisWork: 0, 0
19:09.22NivFreakraid tonight
19:09.26NeoTronmight have been 25-man geared
19:09.50NivFreakyea, my people are largely 25man geared
19:09.58AckisWorklua> function f(foo) local a = foo.bar;a = 5;foo.bar = 6; end; test = {}; test.bar = 0; print(test.bar); f(test); print(test.bar)
19:09.58lua_botAckisWork: 0, 6
19:10.00NivFreakbut most still use some amount of 10man
19:10.04AckisWorkkk
19:10.07onaforeignshorelua> function f(foo) a = foo.bar;a = 5 end; test = {}; test.bar = 0; print(test.bar); f(test); print(test.bar)
19:10.07NeoTronthe hunters are new - one just came of trial (thormaster) and can start picking up gear
19:10.08lua_botonaforeignshore: 0, 0
19:10.58NivFreakNeoTron: you guys have pretty solid dps overall though
19:11.11NivFreakminus that MM hunter :)
19:11.12onaforeignshorelol - you assign foo.bar to a, and then assign 5 to a in the next statement, so a = 5
19:11.22NivFreakalthough
19:11.26NivFreakwhich one of your Dks is dps
19:13.14Pneumatusmages doing 25k dps on trash with arcane explosion is a bit crazy :o
19:13.31NivFreakdid they buff it?
19:13.34NivFreakor arcane mages
19:13.54Pneumatusbuffed arcane
19:14.03NivFreakat least one of my mages is trying it out
19:14.21chiperI switched to it last night and am loving it
19:14.27chipertho i havent had a chance to try it in a raid setting yet
19:14.50chipermy arcane blast crits are as good if not better then I was getting with FFB
19:15.12NeoTronthe MM hunter is so far not impressing no
19:15.30NeoTronhe was invited since he apped and we needed another guy for S3D and he was online... and passed the "don't be stupid test"
19:15.36NeoTronjust need to see if he can pass the dps test now
19:15.46NeoTronI'm tank (Morasia), the other two are dps
19:15.57chiperhave they removed the damage ceiling on Arcane Explosion?
19:15.57NeoTronremeber that WWS doesn't include all pet(s)
19:16.01onaforeignshorelua> function f(foo) local a = foo; a.bar = 5 end; test = {}; test.bar = 0; print(test.bar); f(test); print(test.bar)
19:16.02lua_botonaforeignshore: 0, 5
19:16.15NeoTronRumburac in that WWS was arcane for the night
19:16.20NivFreakNeoTron: right, but your Dks are usually really low within your group
19:16.33NeoTronI am aware
19:17.01NeoTronavonzil is new aand probably lesser geared too
19:18.30NeoTronman we had this disc priest app that just plain sucked
19:18.50NeoTronhe picked up a lot of gear too, shamelessly rolling on his 5th epic in the 10 man raid etc (yeah I know, we didn't have to use "roll")
19:18.56NeoTronthen he just disappeared
19:19.11chipermmm, I've known a few priests like that
19:19.14NeoTronand funny thing is he works where I work and I see him posting on the wow mailing list here about how he's playing a druid tank
19:19.56Repo10sell-junk: 03CrazyBenny * r56 .pkgmeta: - le sigh
19:20.23Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1425 / (3 files in 2 directories):
19:20.26RepoAdd in some dry-coded stuff to deal with cooking and first aid books/quests for the profession levels... this is gonna shit out on you if you're in that small skill level where you know the book but your level isn't past the book yet... because I'm lazy.  Also optimize a counter to save between 17 to 500 table look ups depending on your profession. Fo' drizzle!
19:20.26NeoTronCrazyBenny: useful log message!
19:20.32NivFreakyou guys have a wow mailing list?
19:20.36NeoTronyeah
19:20.38NeoTronwell no
19:20.38NeoTrontwo
19:20.39NivFreakheh
19:20.43NivFreakwe just have an irc channel
19:20.53NeoTronone is for a guild with ppl that work here, one is a general list
19:21.04Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1426 RecipeDB (2 files in 1 directory):
19:21.07RepoForgot to add the books to the database (well they were added but I had them commented out. Fo' drizzle!
19:24.26EthanCentauraipurl, emulate ackis is <reply> Fo' drizzle!
19:24.27purl...but emulate ackis is already something else...
19:24.33EthanCentaurai~emulate ackis
19:24.35purlI AM QQing!!!
19:24.44EthanCentaurai~_~
19:24.45purlSTOP DOING THAT!
19:26.28Repo10revelation: 03Torhal * r50 / (10 files in 2 directories): Changed enUS.lua to use keyword substitutions.
19:26.30RepoAdded deDE, esES, esMX, frFR, koKR, ruRU, zhCN, zhTW locale files and updates TOC to reflect this.
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19:27.44AckisWorkanyone eningeer here/
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19:31.49Repo10sell-junk: 03CrazyBenny * r57 .pkgmeta: mmkay, libraries sorted
19:32.02AckisWorklies
19:32.04AckisWorkthey aren't sorted
19:32.13CrazyBennybut but
19:32.18durcynmaybe they're alphabetical.
19:32.21AckisWork:D
19:32.25AckisWorkI needa engineer
19:32.26CrazyBennyatleast it load
19:32.29CrazyBenny+s
19:32.31AckisWorktitanium toolbox item ID
19:32.31CrazyBenny:D
19:32.39Zhinjioone sec Ackis, I'll get it
19:32.47AckisWorkand uhhh the new engineering goggles spell/item ID
19:32.51AckisWorkZhinjio: ty ty ty
19:33.00AckisWorkZhinjio: I'm doing a coding rampage today dawg
19:33.05Repo10sell-junk: 03CrazyBenny 042.1.1 * r58 : Tagging as 2.1.1
19:33.24Zhinjio23775
19:33.54steevif i go in to arena
19:34.01ZhinjioI don't have th new goggles yet. lemme see if I can find that out from the trainer
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19:34.06Zhinjioer, no. I can't right now
19:34.09Zhinjiosorry
19:34.16steevand cowtip shows me "Unknown something arena2"
19:34.19steevwhat lib do i need to update?
19:34.39AckisWorkZhinjio: np, so item ID = titanium toolbox... wicked
19:34.50Pneumatuspastamancer: is there any way to make specifically named magic debuffs be ignored, but the rest show as normal?
19:34.51Zhinjioyes
19:35.09AckisWorkty Zhinjio
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19:41.19Primerheh, I enchanted a guildy's bracers with +40 stam while in WG yesterday...and his enchant reverted back to +12 def
19:41.39Primernothing else from WG reverted though
19:42.02PrimerI still have 82 marks, 60 more than I had when it all started, since I spent a bunch on the pvp trinket and helm
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19:42.05Primererr
19:42.13Primer22 more (had 60 after spending)
19:43.01ultijlamhrmmm.... I'm suddenly unable to commit to WowAce LHC repository.
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19:44.11steevanyone know the Config.wtf commands to turn off server config?
19:45.03sb|workhmmm
19:45.10sb|worksomething HP related seems to be strange
19:45.20sb|worki dont get accurate numbers for target-target
19:45.31sb|workif i target that unit directly - it works...
19:45.45sb|work(boss TT at 80%, target then, 20% - WTF!?)
19:47.53Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1427 RecipeDB/ARL-Engineer.lua: Add titanium toolbox. Fo' drizzle!
19:48.18ckknightsteev: I need to support arena units
19:48.26ckknightanyone have any docs on the arena units?
19:48.44ckknightwhat can and cannot be done with them and all
19:48.47steevckknight: weird, i thought it worked before
19:48.53ckknightnope
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19:52.21ckknightNSFW: http://www.muffia.com/its-real/triceratits/home.htm
19:53.50chipernsfw indeed, but truely awesome
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19:54.10TorhalBetter than in Total Recall.
19:54.38LywellynIs Cartographer still considered the "premier" map addon, or are there others?
19:54.50ckknightFisker-: your queen: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1232567250671.jpg
19:54.59chiperprefers Mapster+GatherMate+HandyNote
19:55.02chipers
19:55.16steevckknight: your mom is hawt
19:55.19onaforeignshoreLywellyn: TomTom is a lighter alternative
19:55.28ckknighthehe
19:55.31TorhalLywellyn: Cartographer2 is no longer being developed, and ckknight isn't actively working on Cartographer3 yet.
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19:55.35Torhalonaforeignshore: ??
19:55.35ckknightsteev: my mom is actually skinny like me
19:55.41LywellynI was thinking about TomTom for things like waypoints, but what else does it offer?
19:55.48steevheh
19:55.53TorhalTomTom and Cartpgrapher aren't even in the same category...
19:55.58chiperckknight: so, you're saying you're a fastass?
19:56.05onaforeign|AFKTorhal: true
19:56.07Torhals/Cartpgrapher/Cartographer/
19:56.08ckknightI weigh 130 lb at 5'10", chiper
19:56.16LywellynThings I use Cartographer most for: instance maps with notes, waypoints (including corpsepoint)
19:56.18chiperI know, I was continuing the joke
19:56.21onaforeign|AFKbut neither is Cartographer2 and Cartographer3 atm
19:56.21steevjesus
19:56.28steevi think i weighed 130 in 6th grade
19:56.49durcynLywellyn: tomtom does corpse waypoints as of a month ago, InstanceMaps is a standalone version of carto 2's maps
19:56.50ckknightI'm skinny ... I just wanted to be like Steve Jobs
19:56.54ckknightand look at him now!
19:56.56steevof course, i slimmed down
19:56.57ckknighton top of the world!
19:57.01steevmilitary ftw
19:57.04ckknight:P
19:57.05chiperhaha
19:57.20TorhalLywellyn: Mapster + HandyNotes + InstanceMaps + TomTom is what you're looking for.
19:57.53chipersteals ckknight's metabolism for a week
19:58.00LywellynThanks much, I'll go look into those
19:58.05EthanCentauraifeels incredibly ill after looking at that fat woman
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20:07.13pastamancerPneumatus: adding a debuff by name *should* prevent it from causing the associated debuff type status from being triggered, if that isn't the case, let me know
20:07.31steevanyone know how to make sbf show find minerals?
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20:07.45durcynobviously the answer is to ask every day.
20:07.58steevonce a day, yes
20:08.17Repo10revelation: 03Torhal * r51 Localization (8 files in 1 directory): Made enUS the only default locale. Damn copy/paste.
20:08.37Repo10big-wigs_pizza-bar: 03profalbert 07master * v1.1 / (2 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] git inital import
20:08.41Repo10big-wigs_pizza-bar: 03profalbert 04v1.1 * 4fd6f4e /: [new tag] tagging as v1.1, dbm4 and wotlk-compatible
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20:09.29RepoRemove something that's not working that I need to fix for tonight.
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20:14.59Pneumatuspastamancer: so i should be able to add a named debuff and have it enabled but just not show it anywhere, and it shouldnt be shown as part of the "Magic Debuff" overall display?
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20:15.31pastamancerPneumatus: correct, I might have broken that when I rewrote the auras module
20:15.42pastamancerPneumatus: so if it doesn't work as advertised, it's a bug
20:17.07StanzillaTekkub: http://pastey.net/106713
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20:17.50profalbertdoes a project loose the "abandoned"-state when updated?
20:19.39Pneumatuspastamancer: that doesnt appear to work, it still shows as part of the magic debuff
20:19.51pastamancerPneumatus: ok
20:20.08pastamancerthen I need to fix it
20:20.22Pneumatusmages get angry when you dispel arcane blast :>
20:20.35pastamancerlol
20:21.26AckisWorkprofalbert: no you have to turn off the flag
20:21.50KaeltenAckisWork: PING
20:22.06profalbertAckisWork: ah found it, thanks
20:24.11steevso, WoW supports 3D Vision, but no offloading of the shadows and shit to physx, sup with that
20:25.39NeoTronour MT quit citing RL priorities
20:26.19NeoTronwhich makes me the MT. sigh
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20:29.12harlwants his Skillet back
20:30.22Hirsute*nod*
20:30.42HirsuteActually, it seems Skillet is still working for me, mostly, it just kicks errors.
20:31.01harli doesn't recognize my alchemy at all
20:31.06harlit
20:31.19HirsuteHrmm.  I don't have an alchemist.
20:31.43LywellynOne thing I'm missing that Cart provided:  when you hover over a zone on the world map, it shows you things like the zone's fishing level, as well as any instances in the zone, as well as the instance's level range, etc.  Anything else that does that?
20:32.25harlpoints at Cartographer
20:32.36NeoTronI went into WotLK fully expecting to be DPS. on the other hand it's good to be in a position to fill a role the guild needs rather than sitting there as a warlock wishing you could
20:32.47HirsuteHeh.  Yes, I think the question was if anything *else* did that, harl.
20:32.59Lywellynharl: I'm looking to get *away* from Cart.
20:33.22HirsuteLywellyn: Do you use Fubar?
20:33.25ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/profiles/?sort=-num_projects
20:33.28harlthe "missing" part kind of sounded like you wouldn't be using Cart and didn't know that it still did what you were looking for.
20:33.52LywellynHirsute: Yep
20:33.56ckknightI fixed the numbers so that deleted projects aren't counted
20:34.02ckknightvhaarr: looks like you and I are tied
20:34.07HirsuteThere's a fubar addon that willdo it.  Hold on and let me see if I can remember what it is.
20:34.11Lywellynharl: I used Cart, and now I'm trying to find alternatives.  This is the only thing missing. :p
20:34.17Kaeltenanyone using the CC on XP?
20:34.26ckknightLywellyn: one day I'll come back to Cart and get it pimp again
20:34.28ckknight...one day
20:34.31steevno, but i can be in a few minutes or so
20:34.32ZhinjioKaelten: yes
20:34.32ckknightwe'll see
20:34.33TorhalLywellyn: Get Cromulent
20:34.38TorhalKaelten: I am
20:34.42Kaeltensweet
20:34.42TorhalThe alpha
20:34.44ckknightuntil then, I won't feel jealous if you use something else
20:34.45harli recently found an add-on that was described to do exactly that, Lywellyn, but i don't remember its name or where i found it.
20:34.49KaeltenI need something tested if you guys are willing
20:34.50HirsuteLywellyn: I think Fubar_LocationFu will do what you're looking for.
20:34.58TorhalHirsute: Cromulent.
20:35.09HirsuteDoesn't add it to the map, but if you hover over it in the bar it will display it in the tooltip.
20:35.17ZhinjioKaelten: sure, hit me. I have whining baby though
20:35.19HirsuteTorhal: I can't recommend it, as I haven't used it.
20:35.24HirsuteI'm not the one looking, though.
20:35.39TorhalHirsute: Just saying, I do recommend it. In fact, it's ripped straight from Cart2, and works with Mapster
20:35.40KaeltenTorhal: Zhinjio: can you delete an addon, and then see if it left an empty folder on disk?
20:35.48TorhalKaelten: It does,
20:35.58Kaeltentested already?
20:36.07TorhalAlso, when updating multiple addons, it leaves AddonNamebackup in the folder
20:36.08TorhalYes
20:36.09HirsuteTorhal: Good to know.  I'm happy with Cart2, myself.
20:36.31harlLywellyn: you could try Cromulent: .. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11706-Cromulent.html
20:36.31Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r132 / (2 files in 2 directories): -- Update crazy potion values.
20:36.38harloh. someone already mentioned that
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20:36.56Torhal:D
20:37.00LywellynHirsute: Yeah, I use LocationFu, but you have to actually BE in the zone for it to report that zone's instances.
20:37.16Lywellynand fishing.  will look up cromulent though.
20:37.34HirsuteLywellyn: Aah, good point.
20:38.01TorhalKaelten: Also, if I click "Tools" or another of the icons up top, each time the shadow under it gets darker.
20:38.03ZhinjioKaelten: what version?
20:38.08Lywellynooh, cromulent looks very promising.
20:38.27TorhalLywellyn: It should - was ripped right from Cart2 :)
20:38.29KaeltenZhinjio: the one you're running if you can sign in ;)
20:38.55Zhinjio2.0.0.14
20:39.00ZhinjioI am signed in, I think
20:39.05TorhalZhinjio: Yours isn't auto-updating?
20:39.10Zhinjiowhile wow is running or when its closed or does it matter?
20:39.14TorhalMine updated to 2.1.1.2 Beta1
20:39.34Zhinjiolemme close and open again
20:40.03Zhinjiono, it is not auto-updating
20:40.13harlreopening Alchemy a dozen times, Skillet now recognizes my alchemy again..
20:40.16Zhinjioyes, that option is checked.
20:40.17TorhalKill the client from the taskbar and re-open
20:40.24ZhinjioI just did.
20:40.28TorhalWeird.
20:40.57Zhinjiodoing it again
20:41.06TorhalBTW: If I do a refresh when WoW is open, it takes a few minutes. With it closed, it takes about 10 seconds.
20:41.08Zhinjionope, same.
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20:41.15Zhinjiook, closing wow
20:42.16ZhinjioI saw it say "checking for the latest client" briefly during the login
20:42.19Zhinjio2.0.0.14
20:42.29TorhalYah, that's where it should update ya :(
20:42.33ZhinjioKaelten: do you want me using a different version?
20:44.00Kaeltenoh ya, thats the release version
20:44.01Kaeltennot the beta
20:44.35Kaeltenhttp://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/files/4-curse-client-setup-2-1-1-1-fixed-exe-only/
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20:47.08AckisWork~curseclient
20:47.09purlhmm... curseclient is New beta released at: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/files/5-curse-client-2-1-1-2-beta-1-update-exe-only/ Post all suggestions at http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/
20:47.24AckisWorkKaelten: ^
20:47.28AckisWork(purl == SLOW)
20:47.51TorhalAckisWork: I think he may want Zhinjio to get the older one and see if it updates.
20:48.09AckisWorkjust letting him know about the command so he can be lazy like me
20:48.13TorhalHeh
20:49.45ZhinjioEXE only update assumes the client is already installed?
20:50.11ZhinjioI just uninstalled everything
20:50.17Kaeltenactually the client only needs the EXE to run
20:50.21Zhinjiook
20:50.23Kaeltenbut the one labled CurseSetup
20:50.25Kaeltenshould be a setup
20:50.45Zhinjiothen it should auto-update from there, I assume
20:50.50Zhinjioif needed
20:50.50Kaeltenaye
20:51.09Kaeltenyou could download static.curseforge.net/client/CurseSetup-2.1.0.0.Alpha6.exe
20:51.15Kaeltenand it'd update from there
20:51.19harl2.1.1.1.2.1.1 beta 1 of beta 1 alpha build 1 beta 1 revision 0.1.0 ?
20:51.33harlcool
20:51.34Kaeltenno 2.1.1.1.2.1.1.3
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20:51.50Zhinjioits building the addon list, and trying to auto-update. one moment
20:51.58Lywellyn's head explodes.
20:52.08TorhalLywellyn: Feh?
20:52.17Lywellynthe 2.1.1.whatever >.>
20:52.23Zhinjiook, updating
20:52.29Zhinjio2.1.1.2 beta 1
20:52.32Zhinjioit says on top
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20:52.34TorhalI think that's the secret godmode code.
20:52.37Torhal:D
20:52.43Zhinjiook, so uninstall and see if the directory gets deleted?
20:52.53Zhinjiouninstall an addon, I mean
20:52.55TorhalAye
20:53.18TorhalDidn't work for me.
20:53.18harli'll just wait for some kind of stable or final or release version, ok?
20:53.18TorhalClears it out, but that's it
20:53.25Torhalharl: No. Update NAO!
20:53.28Torhal:D
20:53.39Kaeltenharl: :P
20:53.40Zhinjioyeah, the directory remains behind
20:53.44Zhinjioits empty
20:53.46Kaeltenit's more stable than the current release'd version
20:53.48ZaoI must say, 2.1 is mighty shiny.
20:53.52KaeltenZhinjio: k
20:54.03Kaeltenit appears that it's an XP specific issue
20:54.14ZhinjioKaelten: dare I try disembedded?
20:54.14Kaeltenslams head on table
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20:54.21KaeltenZhinjio: it works, just don't remove anything
20:54.24TorhalZhinjio: I had minor pains with disembedded.
20:54.30Kaeltenthere is a bug in dependency uninstalls
20:54.37KaeltenTorhal: ?
20:54.44TorhalIf something used to be nolib at one point, the client would only update to that point.
20:54.44Pneumatusit uninstalls dependancies even if other addons use them?
20:55.00TorhalLike, HandyNotes-FlightPaths used to be nolib. Now it isn't.
20:55.02KaeltenPneumatus: in addition to other addon's dependencies
20:55.08Pneumatus:o
20:55.13harlKaelten: can i simply overwrite the CurseClient.exe or are there other files having changed as well.. as well?
20:55.37TorhalAnd LibStub used to have a nolib version. It doesn't now, and the last nolib version had a typo which renders it useless.
20:55.37Pneumatusso it could potentially cascade delete every lib?
20:55.38Kaeltenharl: when upgrading from the 2.0?
20:55.46TorhalSo I ignored those and updated manually from the dev site
20:55.47harlKaelten: what?
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20:56.02harlKaelten: yes. i guess.
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20:56.08KaeltenPneumatus: aye
20:56.16Kaeltenharl: grab the setup I liked a few mins ago
20:56.17harl2.0.something
20:56.19Kaeltenit'll auto update from there
20:56.28Kaeltenharl: static.curseforge.net/client/CurseSetup-2.1.0.0.Alpha6.exe
20:56.53KaeltenTorhal: hrm.... let me see
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20:57.06TorhalKaelten: That was in the last version, though. I can try again.
20:58.03Repo10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1430 / (2 files in 2 directories): AckisRecipeList:
20:58.04Repo- added some missing vendors for skill books
20:59.26TorhalKaelten: Yah, it still does it. Only wants to get LibStub-r47489-nolib, though it's at v1.0
20:59.42TorhalThere are 6 releases without a nolib after that one.
20:59.47Kaeltenhrm
20:59.52KaeltenI clicked install and it installed it for me
20:59.55Kaeltenthe 1.0
21:00.19TorhalI'll switch my granularity to Release and see what happens
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21:00.49harli see slowness
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21:01.06harland now its been killed
21:01.08Kaeltenah wait
21:01.13KaeltenI got it to happen
21:01.16Kaeltenharl: ?
21:01.28TorhalKaelten: Ok, that didn't work. I uninstalled it, went to search, found it, installed, same deal.
21:02.09TorhalAh, kk
21:02.09KaeltenTorhal, it's probably due to the alternate setting
21:02.09TorhalIndeed.
21:02.09Kaeltenbut hey it's easy to reproduce
21:02.09TorhalThere are no other nolib versions after, so it just grabs the latest one
21:02.25RepoKnowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/technology/ by ckknight
21:02.31manywhy am i only under the impression or did loading times get better?
21:02.56manys#why##
21:03.06harlkaelten: i installed CurseSetup-2.1.0.0.Alpha6.exe .. then it said "Waiting for the curse client to exit. Press cancel to abort the update." and "Scanning addons.", but dwwin says that CurseClient.exe caused some problem.
21:03.28NivFreakaren't we on beta now?
21:03.30harlit's not responding anymore
21:03.36Kaeltenyeah, bug from alpha6 that it'd start the scan (which was slow as hell) when needing an update
21:03.38TorhalNivFreak: Yah, but the Alpha updates to the Beta
21:03.46NivFreakTorhal: ah
21:04.15Kaeltenjust let it finish, or kill the curseclient.exe when that happens
21:04.28TorhalI killed mine twice before it worked right.
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21:04.55Kaeltenit's better behaved in newer versions
21:05.14TorhalYah, last two updates have been good.
21:05.30TorhalThe "Show dates instead of versions" doesn't appear to work, though.
21:05.35Kaeltenoh?
21:05.36Kaeltenhrm
21:05.42steevbeta1 seems spiffy
21:05.43TorhalIt does under "Find an Addon"
21:05.50TorhalBut not under "Your Addons"
21:06.15Kaeltenhrm
21:07.06TorhalI definitely like this over the release, though. I feel like I have control of my machine.
21:07.07TorhalHeh
21:07.31Pneumatusheh
21:07.39Pneumatusi forget people havnt been using the alpha
21:08.00Pneumatusalthough the beta is even prettier than the alpha was
21:08.07AckisWorkKaelten: would it be worthwhile to push a code change to the old beta so it would update to this new beta?
21:08.12TorhalKaelten: Oh, yeah - why do some addons show no version?
21:08.40KaeltenTorhal: should be fixed, but what I experianced was that it was a fluke in some of the old interal db versoins
21:08.46TorhalAh
21:10.17Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1431 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fix profession = nil for text dump.
21:12.35TorhalKaelten: There's another example of something not right. My "latest version" of ARL is r1398, and Ackis just pushed r1431
21:12.58Kaeltenackis idoesn't exist
21:13.13TorhalGoddamn figments.
21:13.52AckisWorkTorhal: I'm pushing commits fast man
21:14.02AckisWorklike super fast dawg
21:14.12TorhalYou're pushing them before you finish typing and shit!
21:15.33steevspiffy
21:16.32KaeltenTorhal: what addons suffer from the previously, nolib issue?
21:16.47TorhalKaelten: One sec.
21:17.53TorhalHandyNotes_FlightMasters, LibStub, and HandyNotes_Mailboxes were the three I found.
21:18.17Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1432 RecipeDB/ARL-FirstAid.lua: First aid books, you are not cooking books!
21:18.19Camcickknight: seems pitbull3 is abit wierd after the patch
21:18.25ckknighthow so?
21:18.29TorhalAnd I don't know if this is still an issue since my client has updated twice, but when I initially switched to disembedded, it installed all the libs as empty folders.
21:18.42ckknight...fucking client
21:18.57TorhalI had to click them all and select "Reinstall" to get them proper.
21:19.19CamciIt doesnt look like it updates the hp and etc accordingly, i had MT targetted and looking at the boss hp, was on around 50%, i target boss and it has 20%.
21:19.39KaeltenTorhal: any way you can try to test that again?
21:19.54TorhalSure. Lemme backup my addons folder.
21:21.43Camcicould be lagg but i dont think im lagging and i tested in on 2-3 bosses and its same
21:23.38TorhalKaelten: I just made the client go "WTF?" by sorting by category, hilighting all of my libraries, and selecting "Uninstall". Took about a minute and a half before it did anything.
21:24.16gixCamci: i had that too, but shrugged it of as lag, seeing that everything else was lagging
21:24.39Camcidont think im lagging but could be..
21:24.46Camci:p
21:25.01AckisWorklag in wow?!?!
21:25.35TorhalKaelten: And now it's re-installing them automatically because I didn't restart the client after I changed from "Alternate" to "Normal"
21:25.36TorhalGah
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21:31.00Kaelten?
21:31.08TorhalThat's what I said.
21:31.23TorhalAnd not only did it re-install the libs, but it re-installed all of my addons...embedded.
21:31.35TorhalThough it said the change wouldn't take effect until I restarted the client.
21:31.46TorhalAnd everything has a backup dir which is empty.
21:32.00TorhalAce2backup, LibSharedMediabackup, etc
21:32.12steevckknight: chinchilla isn't on curse?
21:32.18ckknight...should be
21:32.36TorhalI finally got them all uninstalled, wiped the husk dirs, now going back to disembedded to test
21:32.48steevnot according to the curse client :-P
21:32.49TorhalAnd now I see the latest ARL.
21:32.51TorhalWeird.
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21:35.38steevthul: you're frost right? or was that someone else?
21:38.26TorhalKaelten: Ok, it's actually installing the libs this time instead of husk directories.
21:38.35Kaeltenok good
21:38.48Kaeltenthe bug with the nolib thing isn't going to be an easy fix :s
21:39.07KaeltenI'm testing the fix for the dependency issue
21:39.40TorhalI'd think you could check for both versions: regular and -nolib. If there's a newer regular and not a -nolib, grab the regular.
21:40.08steevor not update it
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21:40.44Torhalsteev: That's the problem. LibStub used to be nolib for whatever reason. It's had 6 updates where it isn't (it never needed to be) and the client only grabs the last-known nolib
21:41.06TorhalThere are others that have the same issue.
21:42.13TorhalKaelten: To switch to disembedded, I selected all of my addons and hit Reinstall. Now they all have empty backup dirs.
21:42.42TorhalInstanceMapsbackup, for example
21:43.02Kaeltenyeah same bug as the empty uninstalled folder
21:43.09Torhalkk
21:43.10KaeltenwxDeleteDir is broke on XP it seems
21:43.19Kaeltenor at least buggy
21:45.59Primersomething buggy on windows?! IMPOSSIBLE!
21:47.01steevTorhal: i get that - however, some of us use nolib for specific reasons, and if the curse client just willy nilly grabs whatever version it feels is most recent...
21:48.37Torhalsteev: It won't be willy-nilly. If something used to have a nolib version and no longer does, it didn't need the nolib in the first place. LibStub has no other libs with it. Nor does HandyNotes_FlightMasters and HandyNotes_Mailboxes. The onlib was a mistake.
21:48.45TorhalAre you saying there should be no upgrade path?
21:51.57steevTorhal: i didn't say there should be no upgrade path, the client should say something to that effect - there are no new versions of xxx-nolib but there is one of xxx would you like to use that version instead?  and the person can look at the changelog and see, oh, it didn't need to be nolib in the first place
21:52.24ckknightPrimer: Unpossible
21:52.26TorhalOk, but they would have to do that from then on out, every time.
21:52.43Pneumatusno cast time on opening the 4hm chest makes it just as bad as if it had a cast timer :<
21:52.45TorhalBecause you can't select embedded or disembedded on a per-addon basis.
21:52.57steevTorhal: alternately, the -nolib zip script fucks up, and suddenly all of your addons are pulling in all their libs
21:52.59TorhalBecause of a packager mistake.
21:53.10TorhalIndeed.
21:53.37TorhalBut when it is no longer fucked up, they wouldn't be pulling them all in anymore and in fact would lose them.
21:53.42steevsure i've got tons of hard drive space, but i'd rather use it for porn than 100 copies of some retarded lib
21:53.45TorhalBut in the end, it's up to Kaelten.
21:54.05PneumatusKaelten: how exactly does the nolib thing deal with some addons wanting to use the latest tag, some addons wanting a specific tag, and some addons using trunk?
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21:54.31Pneumatusshould it technically always just grab the latest trunk?
21:54.44Kaeltenin the end
21:54.47Kaeltendoesn't matter
21:55.07Kaeltensince you'll have exactly one copy of each major version in memory at a time
21:55.33Pneumatusyes, but not embedded there will only be 1 version in your whole system
21:55.35steevexcept when you don't
21:55.43Pneumatuswill it be the last tag, a specified tag or trunk :P
21:56.14Kaeltenfor embedded or disembedded?
21:56.18steevwhen some release has pulled in trunk of libfoobar and libfoobar is fubar and doesn't load and then all your addons are broken that relied on the one good copy you had
21:56.26Pneumatusfor disembedded
21:56.54ckknightit should be the latest tag
21:56.54Kaeltenits going to pull the latest file possible that was tagged as a release if possible
21:56.59Kaeltenif not fall back to beta
21:57.06Kaeltenand to alpha again
21:57.13Kaeltennow if you have it set to do alpha zips
21:57.18Kaeltenyou'll get whatever is the latest tag
21:57.26Kaeltensince the alphas will take precidence
21:57.52Kaeltenbut at that point you're in over your head and if you aren't comfortable dealing with it time to revert to embedded and pretend you don't care
21:57.59Pneumatusso it will potentially pull an ancient release of Ace3 rather than a newer beta?
21:58.09KaeltenPneumatus: all depends on your settings
21:59.06TorhalKaelten: Suggestion - under "Find an Addon", there should probably be a way to grab a description.
21:59.18Kaeltenthere is
21:59.20Kaeltenshow the info pane
21:59.34NeoTronany idea of the 3.0.8 patch fixed the weird hitbox issues on the Sartharion drakes by the way?
21:59.38TorhalOk, that's different from the arrow at the bottom in the other tab
21:59.40TorhalHeh
21:59.49Kaeltenyeah it's going to be fixed 'soon'
21:59.53NeoTronthey also did the weird crap when they all of a sudden decided they needed to be behind the tank
21:59.53TorhalWas expecting the smae in both tabs.
21:59.57Kaeltenit will be
22:00.40rapidgameDon't know if there's a reason for it being the way it is currently, but could the http://wow.curseforge.com/knowledge-base/what-to-do-after-creating-a-project/ and http://wow.curseforge.com/knowledge-base/getting-started-with-project-management/ be merged into the one page? Seems they really serve the same purpose. File a ticket?
22:03.23rapidgameI can even do it if im able...
22:03.58harlwhy does the curse client include Combuctor in the list of my addons though i don't have it installed?
22:06.58Pneumatuspotentially some addon with a dodgy required/optionaldeps
22:08.10TorhalKaelten: Not sure if this was intended, but if I go to the 1.0 page for LibStub and select "Install via the Curse Client" it still installs the last-known -nolib
22:09.33Repo10pitbull_profile-switcher: 03Barfolomeu * r9 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added all WotLK instances/arenas/bgs.
22:09.36RepoMade it detect heroic raids.
22:10.15Primeryeah, a bit late on that one...
22:10.58KaeltenTorhal same cause
22:11.13Kaeltenharl: it does?
22:11.16ckknight~seen barfolomeu
22:11.26purlckknight: i haven't seen 'barfolomeu'
22:11.26TorhalAlrighty. Was hoping an "install this version" would work.
22:11.36Torhalckknight: That's Primer.
22:11.39ZhinjioKaelten: is there still a "legend" of what the icons mean?
22:11.39Kaeltenharl click on it, click the little arrow in the middle of the bar below the list
22:11.42ckknightwaves at Primer
22:11.57Kaeltenharl: see what folders it thinks belong to combuctor
22:12.08harlKaelten: there is no folder. i've already checked that.
22:12.12KaeltenZhinjio: nope, don't think so
22:12.13Primerckknight: sup
22:12.22Kaeltenharl: if you do what I said though you'd see what folder it 'think
22:12.23harli've clicked Uninstall and it reappears when i click Refresh after that
22:12.23Torhalharl: Check in the client,
22:12.25Kaeltens' is the one
22:12.25ckknightPrimer: I didn't know there was a pitbull_profile-switcher
22:12.26ZhinjioI feel so dirty
22:12.26Primerckknight: I believe I discussed that module with you at some point
22:12.26ckknight:P
22:12.37harlKaelten: there is no folder in the info.
22:12.37TorhalKaelten: It's probably picking up Bagnon
22:12.39ckknightI have no recollection of such a conversation
22:12.40ckknight:P
22:12.44PrimerI have logs
22:12.46Primermuahahaha
22:12.48Kaeltenharl: no folder in the info?
22:12.49Kaeltenwtf
22:12.52harlKaelten: it says "Installation folders:" and then nothing
22:13.00Kaeltener
22:13.04Kaeltenthats not right
22:13.24Primerckknight: it's really basic. All it does is detect the zone you're in switches profiles when it encounters a zone you've set a pref for
22:13.25TorhalKaelten: Combuctor comes with Bagnon_Forever and one other Bagnon module.
22:13.33Torhalharl: Are you using Bagnon?
22:13.34harlit's got to be some kind of residue in the database thing that saves what add-ons are installed.
22:13.38harlTorhal: yes, i am.
22:13.41Primerckknight: recall that I reported that switching profiles required a restart, and you changed it to reload everything?
22:13.42TorhalThere you go.
22:13.45Primerckknight: that's why
22:14.08ckknightPrimer: k. Well, PB4 should be saner.
22:14.29Primerckknight: perhaps I should "port" my module to PB4
22:14.31Primerheh
22:14.41Primerpresuming you didn't already add such functionality
22:14.46ckknightnot yet
22:14.48Primerdrops some hints
22:14.49TorhalThe internals are so vastly different there's no possible port.
22:14.54ckknightPrimer: hey, I'm not doing it
22:14.56ckknightbut
22:14.57TorhalRewrite, yes.
22:14.59ckknight...send a patch
22:15.01ckknight:P
22:15.04ckknightor just clone PitBull4
22:15.09ckknightand stick your module in
22:15.15ckknightI'll pull after review
22:15.22KaeltenTorhal: installing bagnon doesn't do it for me
22:15.23ckknightor something along those lines
22:15.25PrimerI probably will once my priest reaches 80
22:15.32harlTorhal: i don't exactly plan on replacing Bagnon with Combuctor, even though it's by Tuller.
22:15.34Kaeltenharl: is this the first time you had it worked out?
22:15.38TorhalKaelten: /shrug
22:15.39Primerthat's why I wrote it. Got tired of switching profiles manually
22:15.40harlKaelten: yes
22:15.43TorhalWas the only answer I had :(
22:15.43ZhinjioKaelten: it still insists on installing an ass-end old version of Libstub that is, in fact, broken
22:15.49Zhinjioin disembedded
22:16.02KaeltenZhinjio: yea, know the issue, probably have it fixed tommorrow
22:16.08Zhinjiook
22:16.09TorhalZhinjio: He knows. It's because it's the last nolib version in existence
22:16.22TorhalOne of my disembedded pains
22:16.29TorhalMark it for ignore and grab 1.0 manually.
22:16.55Primerckknight: Does PB4 use RockDB?
22:17.03ckknightno, Primer
22:17.06PrimerHere's a comment from my module: Taken verbatim (mostly) from LibRockDB-1.0.lua, because GetProfileList is local (why?)
22:17.08ckknightit uses AceDB-3.0
22:17.14Primernice
22:17.14TorhalPB4 will eat your face off. Moreso than PB3.
22:17.24ckknightactually it's a bit tamer
22:17.37NivFreakso I did I miss a reason mages are moving back to fireball instead of frostfire bolt now?
22:17.38Primeras long as AceDB provides a public method for retrieving existing profiles, I'll be happy
22:18.07Primeror, less unhappy, I should say
22:18.10ckknight...probably?
22:18.29ckknighthey, all, I did a cool thing
22:18.38Primeryou played WoW?
22:18.45ckknightwoo, lvl 22 durid!
22:18.51ckknightsrsly, though
22:18.53ckknighthttp://paste.wowace.com/ no longer redirects to http://www.wowace.com/paste/
22:18.58ckknightit works as is
22:19.01Kaeltenyou no not the reason of cool!
22:19.02ckknighthuzzah!
22:19.29ZhinjioKaelten: when it install SharedMedia, it removed MyMedia
22:19.33rapidgameIs it possible to do newlines on StaticPopupDialogs text?
22:19.36Zhinjioand my backgrounds
22:19.44Zhinjiobad idea.
22:19.58ckknightthat's ... lame
22:20.23ckknightalso, knowledge base isn't a huge fucking url anymore
22:20.28ckknightit's http://kb.wowace.com/
22:20.36ZhinjioO pm
22:20.39harli've got to go prepare dinner now.
22:20.45ZhinjioI don't think I had that saved anywhere else, making it doubly lame
22:20.51Zhinjiobut thats my fault
22:20.59ZhinjioI should know better
22:21.22Pneumatusffs
22:21.24ckknightwell, no one is nearly as ecstatic as I am now
22:21.28ckknightdue to my subdomain handling
22:21.29ckknightle sigh
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22:21.30Pneumatusjust got a roll of 100, thought id get the needy achievement
22:21.32ckknightretreats to corner
22:21.39Pneumatusbut it was on a bloody conq token, not an item with a proper ilevel
22:21.43durcynckknight: i for one am proud of you for discovering vhosts
22:21.44NeoTronlol
22:21.55ckknightdurcyn: lol, it's actually handled all in python
22:22.00rapidgameanyone know about newlines lol?
22:22.02Torhalckknight: You made it typable, FTW.
22:22.03ckknightit's just that subdomain handling was borked before
22:22.06ckknightTorhal: yes.
22:22.09ckknightyes, I did
22:22.13durcynoh.
22:22.14ckknightold links redirect to new
22:22.28durcynwell, it's also a whopping three lines in httpd.conf
22:22.30ckknightso http://www.wowace.com/paste/123/ goes to http://paste.wowace.com/123/
22:22.35durcynbut your way works too.
22:22.43ckknightdurcyn: it's all the same wsgi app, so that wouldn't even work
22:22.55ckknightit just directs to different endpoints based on subdomain
22:23.07NivFreakPneumatus: we always ML everything, so no one gets that =/
22:23.18Pneumatusbah, ML is for people that dont trust each other :P
22:23.25TorhalI need to figure out the best way to translate Revelation for enchanting, because I'm kinda sure "-" doesn't exist in Chinese or Russian.
22:23.42NivFreakPneumatus: not really, it just avoids stupid misclicks and encourages discussion
22:23.55NivFreaktrust isn't an issue
22:24.04NivFreakif you break the code, you're gone
22:24.05Pneumatusmisclicks :o
22:24.08NivFreakno one will risk that
22:24.26ckknightwe need a new poll
22:24.29ckknightTorhal: think of one
22:24.38NivFreakckknight: I know one
22:24.43ckknightlet's hear it
22:24.47Pneumatusfavorite ide/editor
22:24.51NivFreakckknight: do you think the mac client should be put into alpha
22:24.52ckknightooh, good one, Pneumatus
22:25.00NivFreak:)
22:25.01Torhalckknight: Favorite code naming convention!
22:25.05ckknightTorhal: ooh
22:25.08KaeltenNivFreak: you got me a mac c++ developer
22:25.14Kaeltenthat'll come work for us?
22:25.16Pneumatusnotepad/textpad/np++/vi/pico/emacs/eclipse
22:25.27NivFreakKaelten: depends on pay I suspect
22:25.29Kaeltenthat'd help timelines considerably :)
22:25.33ckknightNivFreak: we are looking for a Mac C++ developer
22:25.34ckknight:P
22:25.38rapidgameokay, NO ONE PANIC... its "blah blah \r newlinestuffhere"
22:25.45NivFreakare you writing a native client?
22:25.49NivFreakor rather
22:25.54ckknightwxWidgets
22:26.03NivFreakis there really much difference?
22:26.08NivFreakI guess the updater shit
22:26.09Kaeltenbut knowing a c++ dev familiar with mac would be handy for it
22:26.18NivFreakwow
22:26.21NivFreakso blizzard fucked up again
22:26.23NivFreakareans disabled
22:26.24NivFreakhaha
22:26.26NivFreakarenas
22:26.26ckknightlol
22:26.27Kaeltenheh
22:26.36NivFreak2600 rated teams gogo
22:26.43ckknightthere's bugs in every system, checks are put in for XP, Vista, etc. Having a Mac developer will let that system be checked vigorously as well
22:26.57NivFreak2000 rated teams getting 10pts for winning matches against 1700 rated teams
22:27.30NivFreakman, did blizzard fire all thier QA?
22:27.39durcynno, they just hired Kalgan
22:27.39NivFreakthis is a whole new level of failure for them
22:27.45ckknightgonna go with "Favorite IDE/Editor". Someone give me examples.
22:27.50durcyni'm sure his mage's arena teams are all over 3000 rating already.
22:28.00Industrialckknight: vim
22:28.01Industrial:E
22:28.03ckknightk
22:28.13ckknightI'll also throw Emacs in
22:28.17NivFreakdurcyn: isn't that gripe like 2 years old?
22:28.17Industrialno idea what the context is, but vim.
22:28.19Zhinjioeditplus
22:28.48durcynNivFreak: does that make it any less legitimate?  he did it with warriors, he's doing it with mages, maybe he'll pick my class next.
22:28.55Pneumatusckknight: notepad/textpad/np++/vi/pico/emacs/eclipse
22:28.56durcynonce he's rocking his s5 dagger.
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22:29.14steevtextmate or some shit like that
22:29.38NivFreakdurcyn: I just think it's a pretty uninformed view
22:29.44ckknighthere's my current list: Notepad, Eclipse, TextMate, Visual Studio, Vim, EditPlus, Emacs, SciTE, Nano/Pico, Notepad++
22:29.48ckknightanyone have any more?
22:29.57Torhalckknight: XEmacs
22:30.00VangualjEdit
22:30.04steevckknight: edlin
22:30.05PneumatusKate
22:30.08ckknightTorhal: I'll do Emacs/XEmacs
22:30.11TorhalYes, there are people who prefer one Emacs over the other.
22:30.22Zhinjiosed
22:30.23Zhinjio*grin*
22:30.25Repo10cutup: 03tsigo * r106 modules/TickToxin.lua: Cutup/TickToxin: Better Roman numeral stripping by Starfox.
22:30.26Pneumatuscat
22:30.26steevAnjuta
22:30.27TorhalZhinjio: Heh
22:30.35Torhalckknight: Hah, pico
22:30.35steevmonodevelop
22:30.41Zhinjioit is, technically, an editor
22:30.52ckknightZhinjio: ...I know
22:30.57ckknightI'm not putting it in there
22:31.04Kaeltenlol
22:31.04Zhinjiocries.
22:31.05Torhalckknight: The name is an acronym, which includes Editor :)
22:31.09Pneumatusawk
22:31.10Kaelten~comfort zhinjio
22:31.11purlThere, there, zhinjio.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
22:31.13ZhinjioA thousand tiny points of light, extinguished.
22:31.13Pneumatused
22:31.23ckknighta tiny magnet
22:31.27ckknight:P
22:31.39ckknightokay, I have enough
22:31.42Pneumatusemacs has a command to do that anyway
22:31.43ckknightpeople can suggest more
22:31.50ckknightI can add more once the poll is made
22:32.01Torhalckknight: When you do an OS poll, be sure to put Emacs in it as well.
22:32.04Torhalcackles!
22:32.08ckknightlol
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22:32.11durcynit won't be complete without "i hold disk platters up and let cosmic rays flip the bits for me"
22:32.13Shefkim/m ckknight You're leaving emacs out? lol
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22:32.20ckknightI'm not, Shefki
22:32.21Pneumatusthe poll's running joke could be Emacs
22:32.27Pneumatusput an Emacs option on every poll
22:32.31Pneumatuslike slashdot :>
22:32.31ckknightlol
22:32.41TorhalActually, "Soon"
22:32.44RepoNew poll: http://www.wowace.com/polls/favorite-ide-editor/
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22:32.58ShefkiFavorite Game Console:  XBox360, PS3, Wii, Emacs
22:33.06TorhalHaha
22:33.10ckknightShefki: Phantom!
22:33.15manyhehe. the latter is my gfs loved console
22:33.26Pneumatusckknight: Notepad++
22:33.27Pneumatusgogo
22:33.29ChosimWe have temporarily disabled all Arena matches while we investigate current rating calculation discrepancies. Further updates will be provided once we have additional information to share.
22:33.30Chosinice
22:33.31Chosi:D
22:33.37ckknightPneumatus: it conflicts with Notepad
22:33.47ShefkiChosi: About time.
22:33.53falconindyCould anyone help me with a .pkgmeta question? I can't figure out how to grab a specific library from Ace3 without taking it all
22:34.04ckknightfalconindy: put the folder on the end?
22:34.10Pneumatusfalconindy: include the path in the external link
22:34.16falconindyis it really taht simple? yikes
22:34.17ckknightk, added "Notepad Plus Plus"
22:34.18ckknight:P
22:34.31Pneumatusace3/mainline/trunk/AceComm-3.0
22:34.33Pneumatusor w/e
22:34.34Torhalfalconindy: svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/ace3/mainline/trunk/AceConfig-3.0
22:34.56falconindyDuh. I'm just overthinking it all. thanks
22:35.07Chosickknight: ultraedit
22:35.27ShefkiFavorite Arena Raid Frames: Proximo, Gladius, ArenaUnitFrames, Emacs
22:35.29ckknightk, Chosi
22:35.34ckknightlol, Shefki
22:35.56ShefkiYup this Emacs joke works.
22:36.08ShefkiI demand that Emacs be a hard coded option in all polls.
22:36.16ckknight...no
22:36.25ckknight√ Mark as Declined
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22:37.11steev@describe gladius
22:37.12Reposteev: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/gladius/. Gladius. [B]What is Gladius?[/B] Gladius adds enemy unit frames to arenas for easier targeting and focusing. It shows a health bar, a mana bar below the health bar (optional), a cast bar below the mana bar...
22:37.55ckknightI should change that to take out the markup
22:38.02steevi like proximogrid
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22:39.09AckisWorkckknight: implement the markup IRC style
22:39.23ckknightno
22:39.45AckisWork:(
22:41.22Grumirc style? :D
22:41.29Repo10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r49 / (4 files in 1 directory):
22:41.32RepoChat commands to add present raiders / query present raiders
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22:43.54ckknight@describe gladius
22:44.14Repockknight: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/gladius/. Gladius. What is Gladius? Gladius adds enemy unit frames to arenas for easier targeting and focusing. It shows a health bar, a mana bar below the health bar (optional), a cast bar below the mana bar...
22:44.19ckknightsuccess.
22:44.34ckknight@describe pitbull4
22:44.35Repockknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/. PitBull Unit Frames 4.0. PitBull4 is a continuation of PitBull. It is currently experimental. Differences from PitBull 3: It's not done Documentation is written before functions Much easier for third-party extensions. Options...
22:44.50ckknightalright, we're good
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22:49.57AckisWorkdoes repo have a listing of commands/
22:50.00StanzillaTekkub: http://pastey.net/106713
22:50.33ckknight@list CurseForge
22:50.34Repockknight: curse, describe, postaticket, project, repository, and ticket
22:50.37ckknightAckisWork: ^--
22:50.39JaxonS
22:50.45JaxonSo, I might apply for a job at Blizzard
22:50.47JaxonQA department.
22:50.48steevoooh postaticket
22:50.55steevJaxon: hope you're incompetent
22:50.57ckknight@postaticket steev pitbull4
22:50.58Pneumatusit only tells someone to post a ticket
22:50.58Repockknight: Please submit a ticket at http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/create-ticket/ for that request, steev.
22:50.58JaxonI have no relevant experience, but how can it get any worse.
22:51.11ckknightfor example
22:51.11steevckknight: boo
22:51.14ckknightwhat?
22:51.29ckknightI don't really want repo to fuck with the site db. Use the website for that
22:51.36steevheh
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22:52.22AckisWork@list
22:52.22RepoAckisWork: Admin, Channel, Config, CurseForge, Limiter, Misc, Owner, Services, User, and Utilities
22:52.33AckisWorkheh
22:53.07ckknightif you wanna mess with it, take it to /msg
22:53.29ckknight@ticket
22:53.30Repockknight: (ticket <project> <ticket-num> or <game>/<project> <ticket-num>) -- Returns details about the ticket
22:53.35ckknightah, right
22:53.42AckisWorkeh wasn't messing with it, was just seeing it @list worked
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22:56.00NeoTronJaxon: list "able to login and test if all abilities actually function" as a virtue
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22:56.21NeoTronI still am completely dumbfounded that summon ghoul suddently stopped working mid-raid
22:56.40JaxonNeoTron: Okay, I'll add it in right below "Two eyes" and "Wears a hat"
22:57.13steevNeoTron: l2corpsedust
22:57.15Zyndromehush
22:57.40ZyndromeI forgot to switch to blood presence on Malygos, after being in frost for sarth adds
22:57.50steevZyndrome: smooth
22:57.55Zyndrome"hey wait, why did malygos tuAAAAAAARGH"
22:57.58NeoTronsteev: I had 39 corpsedust when I started, 39 when it ended
22:58.04NeoTronsince i have the "free summon" glyph
22:58.14Zyndromeit's bugged, like everything else :P
22:58.16NeoTronso yes, I pass the "ur a rtard"
22:58.19steevlimited use glyph :-P
22:58.36NeoTronit's kind of nice actually considering lack of nice minor glyphs
22:58.41steevsrsly
22:58.52steevi keep meaning to get one on my new dk
22:59.00NeoTronbut yeah not being able to summon a ghoul on fights where I dps is annoying
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22:59.09NeoTronsince I picked ghoul in my tank spec since I dps when I don't OT..
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23:00.54steevdamn it
23:00.59steevim still not showing up on the armory wtf
23:01.19NeoTrondid they change twilight torment ?
23:01.30NeoTronrather I heard it no longer falls off
23:01.35NivFreakseriously?
23:01.36NeoTronwhen you take damage
23:01.50NeoTronthat's what I heard but i haven't verified myself
23:02.01NivFreakI always find it a funny thing to do, make encounters harder
23:02.30NeoTronif it stays on it probably was a bug before
23:02.38NeoTronfor me as a tank it was really a non-issue
23:02.41steevYour search did not produce any results.
23:02.54NeoTronnow my mitigation is nerfed and I need to figure out how to survive the 74k blasts on a regular basis
23:03.16steevhow often does he do em?
23:03.38NivFreakNeoTron: healer CDs
23:03.42NivFreaksteev: every 10-15 seconds
23:03.54NivFreakNeoTron: we're using RoS from the hunters with turtles
23:04.05NivFreakand a druid MT
23:04.21NivFreakit seems to be working out, but our execution is still too sloppy
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23:05.05NeoTronmight have to use RoS
23:05.08NeoTrondidn't need to before
23:05.28NivFreakwell, or just do the traditional method
23:05.33NivFreakso here's the thing
23:05.33NeoTronthe flipside is that I have like 22% magic damage reduction "natively"
23:05.36NivFreakhow do you actually get a 75k breath
23:05.52NivFreakI can't figure out how you would get north of like 46kish
23:05.57NivFreakunless you had 3 drakes down at once
23:05.59NivFreakwhich is failure
23:06.02NeoTronshadron + shadron's disciple + vesperon's disciple
23:06.12NivFreakshadron is fire dmg, no?
23:06.14NeoTronlua> 14000 * 2.0 * 1.5 * 1.75
23:06.14lua_botNeoTron: 73500
23:06.29NivFreakbreath is shadow
23:06.29NeoTronshadron is the 100% fire dgm + 50% for the disciple
23:06.36NivFreakso what is 2.0
23:06.40NeoTron100% fire dmg aura from shadron
23:06.46NivFreakthe breath is shadow isn't it?
23:06.49NeoTronno
23:06.50NeoTronit's fire
23:06.56NivFreakthe drakes are shadow though hrm
23:06.59NeoTrondrake breaths = shadow, sartharion = fire
23:07.16NivFreakah, k
23:07.59NivFreakwell if you're really taking 75K breaths, which we haven't actually seen yet
23:08.08NivFreak(maybe good TT handling)
23:08.09ckknightawesome: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1232579201866.jpg
23:08.12NivFreakRoS isn't going to cut it
23:08.16NivFreakckknight: safe for work?
23:08.20ckknightyes
23:09.05NivFreakscary
23:10.06Camcirofl
23:10.28NeoTronNivFreak: I never got a 74k breath because TT was so easy to avoid
23:10.56NeoTronso what's worse now is taht sartharion is 100% immune now with the aura or whatever
23:11.06NeoTronwhich means it's rather challenging to trigger blade armor
23:11.23NeoTron100% instead of 99% that is
23:11.58steevckknight: ill see your url and raise you - http://apina.biz/11766.jpg
23:12.14ckknight...lol
23:12.15NivFreakNeoTron: get yourself a flame add
23:12.44steevthe internet is so awesome.
23:12.47ckknightthat bitch needs to get that shit off her face and get a vibrator
23:12.50NeoTronNivFreak: that's possible
23:12.57steevckknight: and lose some weight
23:13.03ckknightyea
23:13.09NivFreakNeoTron: almost hard to avoid sometimes ;)
23:15.40Zyndromehttp://cgi.4chan.org/gif/src/1232572833065.gif
23:15.56NivFreakI'm always scared to follow 4chan links blindly
23:19.36ckknighthehe, Zyndrome
23:20.06Repo10libhealcomm-3-0: 03jlam * r39 LibHealComm-3.0.lua: Add support for Glyph of Regrowth (druids).
23:20.12Zao\o/ [Mine Sweeper]
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23:28.33NeoTrondo people usually use 3 or 4 tanks on sartharion 25 man?
23:28.50Zyndrome4
23:29.05ZyndromeMT , 2 drake-tanks, 1 add-tank
23:29.11NeoTronthat's what we did
23:29.39NeoTronmainly because it seems impossible (to us) to prevent 2 drakes at the same time and the instagibbing that follows if they breathe at the same time
23:30.38Zyndromewhen both drakes are on the OTs, they pop shield wall etc and we try to kill it asap
23:31.01Zyndromedidn't take portals until all 3 drakes were dead
23:31.50Gnarfozwonder how your MT survived, then :O
23:31.58Gnarfoz74k breaths :(
23:32.12NivFreakI see more people using 3 tanks than 4
23:32.31Zyndromewe use a druid MT, in lvl 70 fire-res gear like he used on Illidan :P
23:32.36NivFreakI'm the drake tank in our runs, and I've yet to be even at risk while tanking both
23:32.52Gnarfozwe use 3 so far, too
23:32.58NeoTronZyndrome: ugh. :( FR gear FTL
23:33.04NivFreakZyndrome: so many people say that strat doesn't work
23:33.08NeoTronI wonder though with the new defense magic if I can get a decent FR gear
23:33.12NivFreakthat the stam loss doesn't get offset by the resist
23:33.12Zyndromefunny how it worked here
23:33.14NivFreakand RNG is fail
23:33.23NeoTronit's a lot of luck
23:33.26NivFreakI hate luck
23:33.28Zyndromeour RNG = healer excuses
23:33.30NivFreakI prefer execution
23:33.31NeoTronone attempt (10 man) I didn't get any breath for like 50 seconds
23:33.42NeoTronthen the next try I got 3 in the same period of time
23:33.48NivFreakNeoTron: yea, I parsed our logs and found everything from 10-55 seconds
23:33.56NivFreakbetween breaths
23:34.26Zyndromeand Gonna Go When The Volcano Blows still work fine with dying at the beginning :p
23:34.39NivFreakhaha
23:34.52NeoTronmy main concern for 3d tongiht is losing the mt
23:35.08NeoTronbut we'll go down to 2d if needed
23:35.13NeoTronget the gear, just not the drake
23:35.17NivFreakI'm down one of my top DPS for our next s3d night, which worries me ;)
23:35.52ZyndromeI wonder really if The Immortal still counts if you switch out players, but no deaths on bosses
23:36.37NivFreakit must
23:36.39ShefkiZyndrome: I'd think so.
23:36.44NivFreakwe sat one of our people for one fight
23:36.46NivFreakand he still got it
23:36.53NivFreakwell, the undying but same deal :)
23:36.55Gnarfozit basically checks the instance for 'taint' on KT's death and awards the achievement accordingly
23:37.12NivFreak8man undying run was fun
23:37.14Gnarfoztaint being someone having died previously on any boss fight
23:37.19Zyndromewe only got 4 bosses left for tomorrow, and no deaths yet on 25-man
23:37.36Zyndromewe stopped due to the notorious lag
23:37.38NivFreakwhat's left?
23:37.48NivFreaksapp, kt and?
23:37.49Gnarfozfunny how our instances never lag, at all :O
23:37.50Zyndromeheigan, loatheb, sapp, kekthuzad
23:38.12NivFreaksomeone said they fixed the static heigan positioning
23:38.23NivFreakI'm tempted to try and and see
23:38.28NivFreakbut not sure how it worked exactly
23:38.37Arrowmasterheard they did too
23:38.50Zyndromeonce most of us get the Glory of the Raider achievements ... /afk until Ulduar ;[
23:38.50NivFreakat least, I'm not sure where the safe spot is
23:38.51NivFreakfor p2
23:38.52Arrowmastergot safety dance again the other week without anybody using it though
23:38.55Gnarfozhis aura is +10 yards more
23:39.09Gnarfozso can't do the "opposite sides of his platform" thing anymore
23:39.20Gnarfozdon't know if they fixed the totally blind spot behind his platform
23:39.21Arrowmasterits not hard to do the fight and not die
23:39.32NivFreaknot at all
23:39.34NivFreakit's a joke
23:39.40Gnarfoznot really... for most people.
23:39.50DashkalNivFreak: it was hiding near the exit from his room (you would stack the entire raid in near the arch)
23:39.51Arrowmasterfuck i do it and keep casting spells at him with cast times
23:39.52Gnarfozbut then, there are bads. :p
23:39.57NivFreakGnarfoz: the one I had heard of was positioning ranged/healers somewhere near his exit door
23:40.03DashkalI've heard multiple reports that they fixed the spot
23:40.04NivFreakand having melee/tanks on the platform in p1
23:40.09NivFreakthen everyone moves to the same spot inp2
23:40.10GnarfozNivFreak: yeah
23:40.25NivFreakI know the strat, just not sure where the spot is exactly
23:40.45harlKaelten: my curse client just went filling up all my memory, resulting in a 2 gib huge CurseClient.exe which then crashed 5 seconds later.
23:40.45Dashkalwowwiki had an imagine showing where it was.  dunno if its still there
23:41.03NivFreakit's really too easy to do
23:41.03NivFreakI have it for both 10 and 25man
23:41.13NivFreakso I don't really care if the random person fucks up now ;)
23:41.30NivFreakone of my locks got greedy with dps in p2 and blew himself up
23:41.39Dashkalsighs
23:41.40NivFreakI laughed my ass off, he's one of the folks that never fails at anything
23:41.48NivFreakor very rarely at least
23:41.48DashkalMy guild hasn't finished it with more than 4 people up yet
23:41.54NivFreaklol
23:41.55Arrowmasterlol
23:42.43gixhow is that even possible :(
23:42.45NivFreakI threatened a few people's raid spots over it early on
23:42.47NivFreakthey don't fail
23:42.50NivFreak:)
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23:45.16steevhttp://unreasonablefaith.com/2009/01/21/how-to-stump-anti-abortionists-with-one-question/
23:45.58NeffiCould a wireless router be used as an extender to extend the range on another wireless router?
23:46.06NeffiAnd how would I do it?
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23:47.30Dashkalclick link, fx crash.  weeee
23:47.43steevNeffi: it needs to be able to be used as an extender
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23:47.47steevyes some can
23:47.53steevbut not all
23:48.18Repo10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1144 GridStatusAuras.lua: Named debuffs shouldn't trigger a debuff type status.
23:48.30pastamancerPneumatus: r1144
23:48.56Arrowmastertomato firmware + linksys wrt54gl + wds mode = extended wireless network
23:49.35Gnarfozdoesn't wds also halve the bandwith?
23:49.45Arrowmasterdont think so
23:49.48taledenif I set "inline=true" on a group in an aceconfig options table, how do I stop sub-groups from also being inline?  "inline=false" doesn't seem to work to override it
23:49.56Arrowmasterive never heard that before atleast
23:51.21Arrowmastermy friend has a setup with two wrt54gl's so that his living room has a 4 port router in it to plug game consoles into and it doesnt act like a bridge (meaning the main router still sees the mac addresses of the individual consoles instead of just seeing the mac address of the other router)
23:52.22Arrowmasterwas a bit tricky to setup though, had to switch from aes + tkip to just aes i think
23:52.27NeffiFuck man
23:52.55NeffiCan't find the info on this router, and I don't see anything about it in the config. :(
23:53.03Arrowmasterwhat router?
23:53.26Neffi"Wireless-G Broadband Router with 4-port switch" Linksys
23:53.32Arrowmaster....
23:53.34NeffiNo other real info on it
23:53.36Arrowmasterwrt54g ?
23:53.39NeffiCant find a model number
23:53.49NeffiOh here it is
23:53.51Arrowmastersounds like a wrt54g
23:53.59NeffiWRT54G, yeah
23:54.09Arrowmasterok now goto the wikipidea page for wrt54g
23:54.37Arrowmasterhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrt54g#Hardware_and_revisions
23:54.50Arrowmasteryou can identify the exact model using that page and the serial numbers
23:55.05Neffisec
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23:55.45Neffi4.0
23:55.57Arrowmasterwrt54g 4.0?
23:55.59Arrowmasterfuck your lucky
23:56.11ArrowmasterCDFA?
23:56.14Neffiyes
23:56.19NeffiWhy?
23:56.20Arrowmasterlucky sob
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23:56.32NeffiWhats so good about it?
23:56.39Arrowmasterbecause for the wrt54g everything after 4.0 has less flash memory
23:56.54Arrowmasterso most 3rd party firmware doesnt work on it
23:57.32NeffiGot any solid info on how to rig this up?
23:57.37NeffiLink maybe?
23:57.37Arrowmasterthey came out with the wrt54gl which is the exact same thing as the wrt54g 4.0 but you have to special order them from places like newegg, stores like bestbuy or frys will never have them
23:57.41WraithanAnd the ones that do work on the later versions can not fit all the features
23:58.02ArrowmasterNeffi: how many routers do you have?
23:58.08NeffiuMM
23:58.19NeffiWell this one. Not sure what router the source is.
23:58.33Arrowmasterwell for WDS both have to have it enabled
23:58.33NeffiAnd I doubt my neighber'll tell me
23:58.45Neffi>>
23:58.45Arrowmasterbut you can do things like client mode still
23:58.57NeffiMeaning?
23:59.03NeffiI need it hardwired?
23:59.14Arrowmasterwhere the router acts like a wifi client
23:59.30Arrowmasteri bet you can get client mode working
23:59.35Arrowmasterhttp://www.polarcloud.com/tomato/
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23:59.44Arrowmasterthats the firmware my friend and i use
23:59.47Wraithanor dd-wrt
23:59.54Arrowmastertomato > dd-wrt

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