| 00:00.08 | Jaxon | Anyone using Grid Dynamic Layout? |
| 00:00.08 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: TiVo does actually. |
| 00:00.17 | Jaxon | I'm having issues getting it to display anything in a raid. |
| 00:00.17 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: obey |
| 00:00.23 | Shefki | It's just that nobody is using it so people aren't noticing it really. |
| 00:00.35 | Arrowmaster | when nbc first 'accidently' enabled it only media center users were effected, tivo users didnt complain |
| 00:00.50 | Gnarfoz | I find U.S. laws affecting me in Germany fucking absurd |
| 00:00.56 | Shefki | Wasn't in Tivo at that time. |
| 00:01.15 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: there is no law for the broadcast flag, it was only an attmept |
| 00:01.31 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: even so, it would have affected me, probably. |
| 00:01.38 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: or... Windows Vista N... xD |
| 00:01.46 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: TiVo basically got forced into it. |
| 00:01.55 | Shefki | They made some TiVo's with DVD recorders in them. |
| 00:01.55 | Stanzilla | the "N" versions are kinda stupid |
| 00:02.24 | Shefki | They were told if they didn't support it they would not continue to get content keys for future products to allow DVD drives. |
| 00:02.24 | Belazor | N versions: Microsoft's punishment for bundling too good applications with their OS :p |
| 00:02.35 | Gnarfoz | s/too good// |
| 00:02.38 | ckknight | N versions: less stuff, same great price |
| 00:03.16 | Shefki | And incidentaly Microsoft is in the same boat. |
| 00:03.27 | Belazor | Gnarfoz: Do you think anybody would bother with the WMP shit if it could only playback WMV files or even some even more proprietary format? |
| 00:03.27 | Shefki | Support HDCP or they would refuse to allow DVD players to work on Windows. |
| 00:03.38 | Arrowmaster | Shefki: no |
| 00:03.44 | Arrowmaster | dvd players are 3rd party |
| 00:03.51 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Of course. |
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| 00:04.00 | Shefki | That doesn't mean they still can't hold Microsoft hostage over them. |
| 00:04.07 | Gnarfoz | Belazor: the way I see it, the only reason people use WMP is because of WMDRM... and all non-apple online shops using that for their content protection... |
| 00:04.11 | Arrowmaster | support hdcp or they would refuse and xbox 360 manufactured from then on from being able to play dvds |
| 00:04.22 | Arrowmaster | or they would pull stuff from the zune store |
| 00:04.23 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: That too. |
| 00:04.23 | Arrowmaster | etc |
| 00:04.29 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Sure. |
| 00:04.49 | Shefki | The content companies used whatever leverage they had to force the flags to be enforced. |
| 00:05.11 | Shefki | And everyone had a choice. Do it... Or have a lot of pissed off customers who couldn't use their content. |
| 00:05.12 | Belazor | Gnarfoz: I use the WMP in Win7 because with VistaCodecs it plays back everything, and the new WMP Slim lets me have a huge picture without actually going full screen, bigger than any other media player app |
| 00:05.42 | Arrowmaster | Belazor: bigger than MPC? i doubt that |
| 00:05.48 | Gnarfoz | uhm I doubt you'll get a bigger picture than MPC(-HC, but the old one could do it too) ? |
| 00:05.52 | Belazor | Shall I screenshit it for you? |
| 00:05.58 | Arrowmaster | sure |
| 00:06.01 | Belazor | sec |
| 00:06.06 | Gnarfoz | shall I say picture+border = small? |
| 00:06.16 | Arrowmaster | then try MPC and disable all the displays |
| 00:06.27 | Arrowmaster | or hell even zoomplayer |
| 00:06.28 | Gnarfoz | Belazor: also, I didn't realize you were talking about WMP...12? or whatever win7 gives you |
| 00:06.43 | Belazor | ye its 12 |
| 00:06.51 | Arrowmaster | i still have 9 installed |
| 00:06.52 | Xinhuan | <-- accepting Postal addon feature requests |
| 00:06.59 | Belazor | http://belazor.hopto.org/spam/wmp-win7.png |
| 00:07.04 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: just press '1' in MPC ^^ |
| 00:07.25 | Arrowmaster | and it pops up that first time run screen whenever it gets accidently run |
| 00:07.36 | Arrowmaster | which i always cancel |
| 00:07.39 | Shefki | Xinhuan: Remember last person I mailed to between sessions. |
| 00:07.44 | Gnarfoz | Belazor: wtf is that... basically maximized wmp? ^^ |
| 00:07.52 | Xinhuan | right.. |
| 00:07.57 | Xinhuan | anything else? |
| 00:08.09 | Belazor | maximised WMP Slim yeah ;D and when mousing over the video, the playback controls fade in |
| 00:08.10 | Shefki | Nope, that's pretty much all I use Postal for. |
| 00:08.12 | Belazor | its lush as hell |
| 00:08.14 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: make it not randomly stop working entirely when... yeah too bad I never bothered to figure out which addon is conflicting with it. :P |
| 00:08.26 | Xinhuan | randomly stop working? |
| 00:08.28 | Gnarfoz | Belazor: I couldn't care less about lush :> |
| 00:08.40 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: yeah, it's basically as if it weren't loaded at all. but it is ^^ |
| 00:08.52 | Gnarfoz | or maybe it isn't and it's adddonloader's fault! heh |
| 00:08.54 | Arrowmaster | i always use fullscreen in MPC anyway if i want fullscreen |
| 00:08.58 | Xinhuan | i've determined that the issue is because of framelevels Gnarfoz |
| 00:09.12 | Xinhuan | the buttons and all are created, but their framelevels became BELOW the mailframe |
| 00:09.16 | Belazor | Arrowmaster: I've grown accustomed to this display because it lets me chat on msn while having a big pictar :p |
| 00:09.18 | Shefki | Xinhuan: If you want to be really out there... Make Postal entirely replace the mail frame with something more useable for people that store crap in their mailbox. |
| 00:09.23 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: I'd be majorly annoyed by my taskbar staying around. :> |
| 00:09.26 | Xinhuan | but i don't know what is causing the frame levels to go below |
| 00:09.29 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: oh, interesting. ^^ |
| 00:09.31 | Xinhuan | so it appears as though its not loaded, but it is |
| 00:09.47 | Xinhuan | Shefki, that would be "BetterInbox" addon |
| 00:09.51 | Belazor | I only use MPC-HC x64 when Im watching MKVs with subs |
| 00:10.03 | Gnarfoz | I'm basically mostly watching MKVs anyway. |
| 00:10.08 | Gnarfoz | yay for bluray rips. |
| 00:10.16 | Gnarfoz | (those also eliminate any DRM issues. :P) |
| 00:10.38 | Arrowmaster | if you really like wmp you can play mkvs with subs in it too you know |
| 00:10.50 | Xinhuan | there's no real good way to display the mail items tbh, since the server only shows you the first 50 |
| 00:10.51 | Arrowmaster | although its kinda broken on win7 atm i think |
| 00:11.10 | Shefki | Really when it comes down to it anymore. The movie industry has lost most of my money. Games are better money spent / hr of fun. |
| 00:11.15 | Xinhuan | so any local sorting/filtering you do only affects the first 50 |
| 00:11.25 | Belazor | Arrowmaster: Yes but I like MPC-HC's advanced controls over the subtitle font :) |
| 00:11.52 | Xinhuan | Shefki, rewrote all modules except blackbook now.. that one is painfully tricky |
| 00:11.52 | Arrowmaster | oh, your using mpc's internal sub renderer |
| 00:11.55 | ckknight | maybe I need a new icon for PitBull4 |
| 00:12.07 | Shefki | Xinhuan: Why? |
| 00:12.13 | Xinhuan | because it used dewdrop |
| 00:12.26 | Shefki | Oh |
| 00:12.35 | Arrowmaster | i use vsfilter, which is the same thing but a directshow filter, but it doesnt have the multiple style controls that the internal renderer does |
| 00:13.00 | Shefki | ckknight: What's wrong with the existing icon? |
| 00:13.02 | Stanzilla | ckknight: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=6991 < icon :P |
| 00:13.03 | Belazor | ah |
| 00:13.09 | ckknight | Shefki: nothing, inherently |
| 00:13.13 | Shefki | ckknight: Shove a 4 on the lower right corner and be done. :) |
| 00:13.19 | ckknight | nah, Stanzilla |
| 00:13.19 | Belazor | Yeah I like to set my sub font to about 12 pixels, so that it's not too prominent as it is by default |
| 00:13.55 | Belazor | not that I normally NEED subs, as I understand English well enough, but for movies like The Bank Job with lots of English slang I tend to prefer subtitles just so I can pick up everything XD |
| 00:13.58 | Arrowmaster | the difference between mpc internal and vsfilter only shows up with ASS subs |
| 00:14.38 | Stanzilla | ckknight: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=54445 ? :P |
| 00:14.50 | ckknight | hmm |
| 00:14.54 | ckknight | I do like the anger |
| 00:15.13 | ckknight | lemme see how it looks |
| 00:17.21 | ckknight | Stanzilla: eh, doesn't really work for me, you can't tell it's a dog |
| 00:17.47 | Stanzilla | all the other icons i can find are wolves |
| 00:18.21 | Zhinjio | looks through |
| 00:19.56 | Shefki | ckknight: Is the current icon one from something in game or something someone made for you? |
| 00:20.01 | ckknight | I made that one |
| 00:21.18 | Xinhuan | ckknight Interface\Icons\Ability_Warlock_DemonicEmpowerment |
| 00:21.41 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47193 |
| 00:21.42 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 00:22.57 | ckknight | that kinda just looks like a demon |
| 00:23.16 | Shefki | Because it is. lol |
| 00:23.25 | ckknight | I want a dog |
| 00:23.31 | ckknight | I think I'm gonna draw one |
| 00:23.33 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 00:23.46 | Arrowmaster | oh god this is going to turn out bad! |
| 00:23.49 | Shefki | Email Samwise. Ask him to make you a dog icon. |
| 00:24.00 | ckknight | who is Samwise? |
| 00:24.12 | Arrowmaster | bliz dev |
| 00:24.14 | Shefki | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samwise_Didier |
| 00:24.30 | Bruners | ckknight: http://www.iconator.com/tags.php?type=icon&tag=puppy |
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| 00:24.47 | ckknight | people do like puppies. |
| 00:24.54 | Xinhuan | well |
| 00:25.01 | Xinhuan | would a corehound do hehe Ability_Hunter_Pet_CoreHound |
| 00:25.28 | Zhinjio | ok, I have a collage of everything dog like. one sec |
| 00:26.25 | Shefki | ckknight: Just make an icon of your face. :P |
| 00:26.27 | ckknight | I'm already drawing something |
| 00:26.31 | ckknight | Shefki: lol |
| 00:27.08 | Shefki | ckknight: The icon we used to use for buffs in config mode is Samwise. |
| 00:27.32 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 00:27.34 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: also, from now on, name all your addons "ckknight's xyz", so we'd have "ckknight's PitBull4" xD |
| 00:27.45 | Shefki | I switched to using + and - icons since it was easier to understand. /shrug |
| 00:27.45 | ckknight | no, Gnarfoz |
| 00:27.52 | Zhinjio | ckknight: http://geo.trippy.org/gallery2/d/2617-1/pitbull.jpg |
| 00:27.55 | Gnarfoz | but with your face as the icon, that'd fit :p |
| 00:28.08 | Xinhuan | Shefki, the thaddius debuff ones? |
| 00:28.24 | Shefki | yeah. |
| 00:28.29 | Xinhuan | yeah those are good |
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| 00:29.30 | Shefki | Xinhuan: I replaced the border graphic for the auras too. |
| 00:30.05 | Xinhuan | i need one of those 15 available addons that tells me when the next WG is |
| 00:31.09 | WobWork | none of them are particularly pitbullish, Zhinjio |
| 00:32.01 | Shefki | Should have named the addon FrameWolf |
| 00:32.05 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 00:32.25 | Shefki | And then used a graphic of Air Wolf from the 80's for the icon. |
| 00:32.34 | RaydenU | zomg Air Wolf |
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| 00:32.58 | Gnarfoz | I get flashbacks of the Air Wolf theme in my head now |
| 00:33.03 | Gnarfoz | thanks Shefki |
| 00:35.03 | Shefki | You could include an mp3 of the theme and play it when the config opened. |
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| 00:35.55 | Zhinjio | hahah. email subject: "The excitement will be shown in your pants" |
| 00:36.32 | Xinhuan | for a moment i read "excrement" |
| 00:36.54 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: I get flashbacks of the Air Wolf theme in my head now < same -.- |
| 00:37.09 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: that'd be equally disturbing |
| 00:37.50 | Shefki | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr_CJL1YQRc |
| 00:38.14 | Stanzilla | yaay |
| 00:40.34 | Shefki | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG9SQPu-RI8&NR=1 |
| 00:40.44 | Shefki | ^ Has the whole theme including the parts they didn't play in the intro. |
| 00:42.28 | Zhinjio | My google images search turned up a couple good ones, but nothing that isn't copyright |
| 00:43.11 | thul | the whore in firefly is my soul-mate |
| 00:43.41 | Shefki | thul: Awww, does she create excitement in your pants? |
| 00:44.13 | Trell- | did you 'jizz in your pants'? |
| 00:45.22 | Zhinjio | she does create excitement in my panst |
| 00:45.28 | Zhinjio | s/panst/pants/ |
| 00:45.34 | Zhinjio | I think I'm going to keep using that phrase. I like it. |
| 00:46.36 | Shefki | lol phisers fail: http://video.classmates.startpagin.message-n1kf1ym1.logintocareerbuilder/#com/login_video737.htm?/LoginInter/INVITATION=yN1cK1eP |
| 00:46.51 | Shefki | nice URL |
| 00:47.24 | thul | Shefki: indeed she does |
| 00:47.46 | Shefki | I don't wanna know what you were doing during the delay in responding. |
| 00:48.33 | thul | hahaha |
| 00:48.38 | thul | watching the rest of the episode :-D |
| 00:48.39 | thul | the reavers came |
| 00:48.42 | thul | it was action |
| 00:48.57 | ckknight | k, I drew a pitbull |
| 00:48.58 | ckknight | http://i40.tinypic.com/289lauu.png |
| 00:49.02 | Shefki | Frankly she is hotter as the evil chick on Star Gate in the last two seasons. |
| 00:49.30 | Fisker- | throws nuclear bombs after thul |
| 00:49.32 | ckknight | Shefki: thoughts? |
| 00:49.48 | Shefki | ckknight: Looks good to me. |
| 00:49.58 | Shefki | Hell of a lot better than I could do. |
| 00:50.01 | ckknight | even at 64x64, it looks like it wants to kill you |
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| 00:50.08 | ckknight | it seems nicer at 16x16 |
| 00:50.17 | ckknight | and looks fine in-game |
| 00:50.36 | Shefki | Thundercats are go! |
| 00:50.40 | Stanzilla | wait |
| 00:50.47 | Stanzilla | you painted that? or did you cut out a pic? |
| 00:50.47 | ckknight | ? |
| 00:50.59 | ckknight | I drew it at about 300x300 |
| 00:51.01 | ckknight | then scaled down |
| 00:51.06 | Gnarfoz | :o |
| 00:51.08 | Stanzilla | free hand? |
| 00:51.09 | Stanzilla | O.o |
| 00:51.17 | ckknight | no, I don't have a proper stylus |
| 00:51.19 | ckknight | had to use a mouse |
| 00:51.26 | ckknight | I need to get a stylus one day |
| 00:51.26 | Stanzilla | good job O.o |
| 00:51.30 | ckknight | it's a lot harder with a mouse |
| 00:51.40 | ckknight | it wasn't really that hard |
| 00:51.43 | ckknight | you just define the shape |
| 00:51.48 | ckknight | then there are three color areas |
| 00:51.56 | ckknight | well, 4 if you count eyes |
| 00:51.59 | ckknight | and I used a gradient for each |
| 00:52.10 | thul | this is my fourth time trough firefly |
| 00:52.18 | Zhinjio | it looks remarkably like several images I googled. |
| 00:52.21 | Zhinjio | *cough* |
| 00:52.35 | ckknight | Zhinjio: sure does. I took example from a few |
| 00:52.54 | ckknight | creativity does not exist in a vacuum |
| 00:53.08 | Gnarfoz | http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/3254/pitbull2rj.gif |
| 00:53.08 | Gnarfoz | xDDD |
| 00:53.15 | ckknight | dammit, Gnarfoz |
| 00:53.16 | ckknight | you found it |
| 00:53.20 | ckknight | I just traced. |
| 00:53.29 | Shefki | http://i42.tinypic.com/2mhhtap.jpg |
| 00:53.42 | Gnarfoz | hello kitty/pitbull slash fiction... go! |
| 00:53.46 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: you know you want to |
| 00:53.55 | ckknight | basically, Shefki |
| 00:54.07 | ckknight | originality is _extremely_ rare |
| 00:54.27 | ckknight | most of my work is just theft of others with my own improvement and polish |
| 00:54.42 | ckknight | FuBar: stolen from Titan, mostly |
| 00:54.48 | ckknight | Cartographer, stole from Metamap, Alphamap |
| 00:55.03 | ckknight | PitBull: Stole from ag_UF mostly |
| 00:55.06 | Fisker- | makes out with Gnarfoz |
| 00:55.09 | ckknight | Parrot: Stole from SCT/MSBT |
| 00:55.12 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: old |
| 00:55.30 | ckknight | CowTip: Stole from TinyTip and some others |
| 00:55.39 | ckknight | I added my own improvements to each, of course |
| 00:55.48 | ckknight | and I didn't steal code |
| 00:55.50 | ckknight | just ideas |
| 00:55.52 | ckknight | and look |
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| 00:56.29 | Gnarfoz | you added some sleep(math.random()) calls to each, btw |
| 00:56.33 | Gnarfoz | maybe by mistake :p |
| 00:56.46 | ckknight | every few weeks I take off a 0 from the sleep calls |
| 00:56.48 | thul | have you guys heard Motorpsycho - Vortex Surfer ? |
| 00:56.49 | ckknight | and call it optimization |
| 00:56.58 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: heh |
| 00:57.06 | Gnarfoz | I should really disembed LDT-3.0 again |
| 00:57.09 | Xinhuan | ckknight, routes is originality :) |
| 00:57.23 | ckknight | Xinhuan: you stole that from google maps. |
| 00:57.31 | Gnarfoz | google maps can't do that |
| 00:57.44 | Xinhuan | the stole the interface 1 year after initial writing haha |
| 00:57.53 | Bruners | the idea about drawing roues on maps is old :P |
| 00:58.26 | Xinhuan | there's still some pretty interesting new ideas floating around |
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| 01:03.49 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r4910 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Maexxna: Changed Enrage for 10man |
| 01:03.51 | Repo | - Archavon: cleanup |
| 01:04.47 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 8bc5037 / (5 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 01:04.49 | Repo | 8bc5037: urg |
| 01:04.52 | Repo | 35a8503: add custom pitbull icon (hooray for the GIMP). Swap left/right click on the minimap icon. |
| 01:04.55 | Repo | 3d7c755: add LDB launcher support. Much thanks to Vangual. |
| 01:05.40 | Fisker- | lulzes Xinhuan up |
| 01:06.08 | Zhinjio | oooo, pulling. |
| 01:06.31 | thul | I found the best song-title in the world today |
| 01:06.32 | thul | There is a retard on acid holding a hammer to your brain |
| 01:06.37 | ckknight | note: I didn't add the actual libs :P |
| 01:07.06 | ckknight | if you happen to have LibDBIcon-1.0, it'll work, though |
| 01:07.57 | Zhinjio | I don't. |
| 01:08.00 | Zhinjio | so I'll wait. |
| 01:08.16 | Zhinjio | at least, I don't think I do |
| 01:12.30 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 01:12.36 | ckknight | where do I even get that? |
| 01:13.21 | ckknight | ah, okay, that's on wowace |
| 01:14.27 | Xinhuan | Libs/LibDBIcon-1.0: svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/libdbicon-1-0/mainline/trunk/LibDBIcon-1.0 |
| 01:14.35 | Xinhuan | you can add that to pjgmeta |
| 01:14.37 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:14.43 | ckknight | that's what I'm about to do |
| 01:18.45 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 8b9d56e / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] include the DataBroker libs. |
| 01:21.43 | ckknight | okay, Zhinjio |
| 01:21.52 | ckknight | Stanzilla: be appreciative |
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| 01:22.40 | ckknight | 12 tickets per page seems like too few |
| 01:25.42 | ckknight | and now we show 20 tickets per page |
| 01:25.53 | ckknight | and it's less depressing to see 2 pages of tickets on PitBull4 |
| 01:25.55 | ckknight | rather than 4 |
| 01:26.49 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 01:26.57 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 01:29.30 | Repo | 10mountiful: 03Jomar * r34 / (2 files in 1 directory): Mountiful: |
| 01:29.31 | Repo | - add The Frozen Sea to Zones.lua |
| 01:29.34 | Repo | - empty mounts table on load |
| 01:30.05 | duaiwe | *sigh* 4 unholy DKs ina raid is fail |
| 01:30.57 | thul | you have to make them speck differently |
| 01:30.58 | thul | spec |
| 01:31.02 | thul | 2 uh dks are ok |
| 01:31.05 | thul | but more than that is a bit fail |
| 01:31.10 | thul | :-P |
| 01:32.01 | NightHawkTheSane | well, really, 4 DKs is just fail in general. we actually have 5, but one of them is frost |
| 01:32.37 | thul | hehe, what kind of dps do they pull? level of gear? wws? :-P |
| 01:32.54 | Fisker- | slaps thul around a bit with a large trout |
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| 01:33.10 | thul | kisses Fisker- |
| 01:33.27 | Fisker- | loves thul |
| 01:33.37 | NightHawkTheSane | well, the one frost is putting out pretty good dps, two of them are our tanks, and the other two kinda suck :P |
| 01:34.04 | thul | hehe |
| 01:34.20 | NightHawkTheSane | course, the frost dk is also an ex-rogue, so no surprise he's got the rotation/theorycrafting down |
| 01:34.28 | thul | i just saw a few wws-es of dks pulling 4500-5000 dps |
| 01:34.29 | thul | sick |
| 01:34.43 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i'd believe it |
| 01:35.22 | thul | I do 2500-2800 on patchwerk, so need to gear up! |
| 01:37.07 | Repo | 10enhancedcalendar: 03Pericles * r16 RaidInviter.lua: RaidInviter: - |
| 01:37.10 | thul | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIArmP6HcZk <- that is just pure cool. |
| 01:37.10 | Repo | ready for playerframe data to be written |
| 01:37.13 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia 043.0.3c beta * r973 : Tagging as 3.0.3c beta |
| 01:39.29 | RaydenU | so 5 man buffed i have 39k hp, but only 23k armor |
| 01:39.30 | RaydenU | 34% dodge |
| 01:39.32 | RaydenU | druid |
| 01:39.35 | RaydenU | armor seems low? |
| 01:39.48 | thul | well, I have about that as frost dk |
| 01:39.56 | RaydenU | i guess i shouldn't worry as the patch will bring it up, due to the pieces i've picked up that don't have armor |
| 01:40.15 | RaydenU | Staff of Trickery vs Earthwarden for example |
| 01:41.26 | RaydenU | someone mentioned the magic 30/30/30 for armor, hp, dodge |
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| 01:46.04 | Repo | 10grid: 03Sayclub * r1139 GridLocale-koKR.lua: koKR update |
| 01:49.40 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Sayclub * r45 Options/locales/koKR.lua: koKR update |
| 01:56.42 | Repo | 10trade-filter: 03networkerror * r41 / (3 files in 1 directory): Remove filtering self and added keywords |
| 01:59.54 | rapidgame | wowace is quite today ;-) |
| 02:01.46 | ckknight | it is Sunday |
| 02:02.12 | ckknight | the Europeans are probably asleep now, Monday tomorrow |
| 02:02.24 | Lukian | quiet :p |
| 02:02.57 | Megalon | 0259 on monday it is! |
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| 02:05.03 | Repo | 10trade-filter: 03networkerror 04v1.1.42 * r42 : Tagging as Release |
| 02:06.40 | Belazor | I'm european! |
| 02:08.33 | Xinhuan | omg |
| 02:08.33 | Xinhuan | http://pwniepedia.com/index.php?title=Sartharion |
| 02:08.34 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 02:09.29 | Killmore | hahaha |
| 02:09.43 | Killmore | best strategy guide ever :P |
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| 02:11.15 | Bruners | haha, loved the healing druid |
| 02:15.06 | Olison | hahha rofl |
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| 02:16.51 | Xinhuan | needs more plush toys |
| 02:18.29 | Zhinjio | that page is pretty awesome |
| 02:19.21 | rapidgame | ckknight 3:19pm Monday here haha |
| 02:19.41 | rapidgame | ckknight: do you use git for Cartographer? |
| 02:20.05 | ckknight | Cartographer3 |
| 02:20.08 | ckknight | yes |
| 02:20.11 | ckknight | feel free to clone it |
| 02:23.08 | Xinhuan | now that's a true google maps rip :P |
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| 02:24.31 | ckknight | oh, definitely |
| 02:24.34 | ckknight | no doubt whatsoever |
| 02:24.40 | ckknight | I even mention google maps |
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| 02:25.27 | rapidgame | how did you get the full list of changes to appear in the changelog? |
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| 02:26.08 | I440r | why does the curse web page first offer you a download or install by client link and then when you click on the DOWNLOAD link it asks AGAIN if you want to download or install by the client |
| 02:26.24 | I440r | PLEASE when i click download can i freeking get a download instead of a page asking me what i want to do? |
| 02:27.00 | rapidgame | lol, its only one more click |
| 02:27.12 | Xinhuan | clearly advertising the curse client |
| 02:27.12 | Zhinjio | marketing |
| 02:27.14 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 02:27.24 | I440r | click A to download. B to install auto. i click A and get asked. CLick A to downlaod and B to isntall auto |
| 02:27.27 | I440r | fuckign STUPID |
| 02:27.58 | Shirik | I don't really like ign either |
| 02:28.06 | rapidgame | yeah, ign sucks |
| 02:28.18 | I440r | ign? |
| 02:28.24 | rapidgame | you said fuck ign? |
| 02:28.42 | I440r | aha. |
| 02:28.45 | Xinhuan | HAHA |
| 02:28.51 | rapidgame | BTW, double click downloading is common, it allows to see the changelog etc |
| 02:29.00 | rapidgame | many sites have something similar |
| 02:29.10 | rapidgame | if you want easy downloads, just use CC |
| 02:29.25 | I440r | click here to download -> click here to download -> click here to download -> if your download doesnt start click here |
| 02:29.28 | Zhinjio | (which, incidentally, is what its trying to convince you of in the first place) |
| 02:29.39 | I440r | not quite as bad as SF.net but STILl bad |
| 02:29.44 | Shirik | With no disrespect to the CC, I fail to see how "If you want easy, just download this program" is a valid argument |
| 02:29.55 | Shirik | playing devil's advocate |
| 02:30.04 | rapidgame | took me a total of two clicks from the project page, thats not HARD! |
| 02:30.08 | I440r | no. i search for blah addon and get a page. THAT page can have the changelog and a click to download and a click to install |
| 02:30.15 | I440r | if i click the DOWNLOAD thats what i should get |
| 02:30.24 | Zhinjio | irc should have a /ignore 5 minutes |
| 02:30.25 | Zhinjio | or something |
| 02:30.38 | rapidgame | lol |
| 02:30.41 | Shirik | dunno how on irssi |
| 02:30.47 | Shirik | mirc could do it |
| 02:30.54 | I440r | try /silence bleh |
| 02:31.06 | rapidgame | Shirik: well, he was complaining about one extra click - thought he might be the sort that would benifit from CC haha |
| 02:31.19 | I440r | its not the extra click that botheres me actually |
| 02:31.33 | I440r | its the every pushing of the insecure auto install feature |
| 02:31.59 | rapidgame | its their site, you kind of have to allow them to push their software |
| 02:32.06 | I440r | fine. MAKE me click twice to get the file i want. but dont give me A download B auto and then give the same options EXACTLY after i click option a |
| 02:32.31 | Shirik | Not to change the subject or anything |
| 02:32.39 | Shirik | I440r, what exactly does your name mean? |
| 02:32.44 | rapidgame | lol |
| 02:32.51 | Shirik | are the numbers supposed to be letters? |
| 02:32.56 | Shirik | It's really bothering me I can't figure it out |
| 02:33.01 | I440r | Ibanez 440 radius |
| 02:33.19 | Shirik | ok |
| 02:33.22 | rapidgame | oh, and ckknight - the curse page for Cart3 lists all changes in the changelog - how'd you get it to do that with git? |
| 02:33.28 | rapidgame | gat or bass? |
| 02:33.37 | Shirik | thatnks :P |
| 02:33.39 | Shirik | thanks* |
| 02:33.41 | ckknight | charon made a custom thing, rapidgame |
| 02:33.48 | I440r | the 440 radius is the guitar that they based the shitty JS series on |
| 02:33.53 | I440r | the JS series is junk |
| 02:33.54 | Shirik | heh |
| 02:33.59 | I440r | the US version of the 440r is JUNK. |
| 02:34.01 | ckknight | @project curseforge-packager |
| 02:34.01 | rapidgame | charon? will google help me with that? |
| 02:34.01 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge-packager/. CurseForge Packager. ckknight (Manager/Author). Updated: 104 days ago. Tickets: 10/10 |
| 02:34.03 | I440r | i have the UK version |
| 02:34.06 | rapidgame | thanks! |
| 02:34.08 | ckknight | rapidgame: charon's a guy |
| 02:34.11 | ckknight | that's our packager, though |
| 02:34.20 | ckknight | it has the git changelog stuff in there |
| 02:34.36 | rapidgame | I440r: here's me sitting playing my crappy squire lol |
| 02:35.07 | I440r | mostly i dont play the 440r any more. or my Ibanez AE. i tend to play my spanis classical mostly these days |
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| 02:35.36 | I440r | www.isforth.com/bin/milongueo.mp3 thats me if i got the URL right. but thats on my ibanez AE tho. not the spanish |
| 02:36.35 | rapidgame | I440r: The requested URL /bin/milongueo.mp3 was not found on this server. |
| 02:36.41 | I440r | erm hang on |
| 02:36.48 | Shirik | not to mention "why is it in bin" |
| 02:36.57 | I440r | its not in that bin lol |
| 02:37.25 | I440r | try capitalize Milongueo |
| 02:37.45 | I440r | because its a binary file |
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| 02:38.03 | Shirik | well technically everything is |
| 02:38.18 | Shirik | goes to grab some ice cream from the freezer |
| 02:38.26 | I440r | get me some too |
| 02:38.44 | I440r | and some JD while yer at it |
| 02:38.51 | I440r | jd and icecream is good |
| 02:39.05 | ckknight | this seems off-topic |
| 02:39.28 | rapidgame | haha, yeah im drinking JD nd playing gat now haha |
| 02:39.29 | I440r | that seems anal |
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| 02:39.57 | ckknight | to bring the topic back to the channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoP6HkxjS38 |
| 02:40.06 | I440r | does anyone know what the wow installer is doing that makes it sooooooooo freeking slow? |
| 02:40.13 | I440r | fresh install i mean |
| 02:40.55 | ckknight | bringing you into the WoW experience, so that when you load up WoW, it'll seem fast |
| 02:41.04 | ckknight | it's like being friends with an ugly person |
| 02:41.04 | Shirik | ..... w..t..f.. |
| 02:41.57 | Hjalte | ckknight: Don't tell me anyone is actually like that. |
| 02:42.06 | ckknight | like what? |
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| 02:42.09 | ckknight | like Boxxy? |
| 02:42.11 | rapidgame | hahaha |
| 02:42.14 | ckknight | everyone loves Boxxy |
| 02:42.18 | rapidgame | whats wrong with boxxy? |
| 02:42.26 | ckknight | too much eyeliner, rapidgame |
| 02:42.34 | rapidgame | or is boxxy the one who has an ugly friend? |
| 02:42.44 | rapidgame | well, that makes her unique lol |
| 02:42.47 | Chaud | I alt tab out of seeing that fail in trade channel only to see it here =( |
| 02:42.51 | rapidgame | to each there own, i suppose |
| 02:43.05 | rapidgame | Chaud: soz, blame ckknight haha |
| 02:43.23 | Chaud | someone renamed / redid their 29 twink pally to look similar and with the same name |
| 02:43.31 | rapidgame | ckknight: lol, should i check the pkgmeta for Cart3, still having trouble finding the proper changelog doco for the packager |
| 02:43.41 | ckknight | I was trying to move the chat away from Spanish music |
| 02:43.57 | ckknight | rapidgame: Cart3 does nothing special |
| 02:44.09 | ckknight | Chaud: lol |
| 02:44.10 | Shirik | ckknight... you scare me |
| 02:44.23 | ckknight | Shirik: it's important to strike fear into the hearts of man |
| 02:44.45 | rapidgame | ckknight: im just tring to figure out how you got the full chatlogs for Cart3 using git |
| 02:44.56 | rapidgame | s/chatlogs/changelogs |
| 02:44.57 | ckknight | rapidgame: the packager does it for you |
| 02:44.58 | Chaud | http://www.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=Boxxy&searchType=all |
| 02:45.01 | Chaud | even scarier |
| 02:45.01 | ckknight | not sure how to do it in raw git |
| 02:45.11 | ckknight | Shirik: my current Facebook status: Cameron is destroying something beautiful. |
| 02:45.15 | rapidgame | how do i use that whole s/this/to that thingy? |
| 02:45.25 | Zhinjio | you just do |
| 02:45.26 | ckknight | rapidgame: ...what? |
| 02:45.41 | Zhinjio | s/do/do it like you just don't care/ |
| 02:46.35 | rapidgame | - i didnt see a reponse from purl when i did s/chatlogs/changelogs above |
| 02:46.45 | ckknight | ending slash |
| 02:46.46 | Zhinjio | terminating / |
| 02:46.57 | rapidgame | oh, haha - new to IRC things |
| 02:47.01 | ckknight | s/ending slash/I fucked your mom, rapidgame/ |
| 02:47.05 | ckknight | see |
| 02:47.16 | ckknight | is informative |
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| 02:47.24 | Zhinjio | s/informative/abusive. |
| 02:47.27 | Repo | 10vanas-ko-s: 03xilcoy * r329 modules/Notifier.lua: |
| 02:47.27 | Zhinjio | ahem. |
| 02:47.30 | rapidgame | ckknight: hmm, could you clarify it a bit more haha |
| 02:47.32 | Repo | Oops I forgot a set of paranthesis in the notifier in my last commit. It caused |
| 02:47.35 | Repo | players of known level to be displayed as [??] in the chat window. |
| 02:47.43 | Shirik | er |
| 02:47.49 | Shirik | I thought Repo was talking for a second |
| 02:47.51 | ckknight | relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApG7CYuq8Pc |
| 02:47.57 | Shirik | is he slow or is that just my connection? |
| 02:48.09 | I440r | did that url work? |
| 02:48.14 | rapidgame | ckknight: i refuse to go without know what it is haha |
| 02:48.14 | ckknight | Shirik: I space out his messages so he doesn't spam real fast all at once |
| 02:48.26 | ckknight | rapidgame: it's a funny 9-minute movie |
| 02:48.28 | Shirik | ah |
| 02:48.29 | ckknight | worth watching (seriously) |
| 02:48.38 | ckknight | and yes, Repo is male |
| 02:48.40 | ckknight | purl is female |
| 02:48.41 | purl | ACTION confuses all the nearby males |
| 02:48.41 | rapidgame | lol k |
| 02:49.06 | haste | ckknight: awesome how the boxxy remixes uses touhou music |
| 02:49.09 | ckknight | they're both shy, though, so I don't see a chance of bot-babies |
| 02:49.16 | ckknight | haste: link? |
| 02:50.15 | rapidgame | i'd hit purl |
| 02:50.18 | ckknight | you know it! |
| 02:50.51 | haste | ckknight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEsKv2aHhcE => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-9LCDx6EAA |
| 02:51.29 | rapidgame | ckknight: 9 minutes lol? |
| 02:51.47 | ckknight | rapidgame: yea, watch it |
| 02:53.46 | Hjalte | Oh, I hadn't realised they were fixing Shadowmeld. My moonkin druid just died a little inside. |
| 02:54.44 | ckknight | why's that, Hjalte? |
| 02:55.08 | Hjalte | Up till now, it removed all threat and never gave it back. Moonkin druids don't have a drop-threat spell. |
| 02:55.10 | ckknight | (I'm not hip to the kids' lingo) |
| 02:55.15 | ckknight | ah |
| 02:55.31 | ckknight | it'll give it back once the buff wears off, then? |
| 02:55.49 | Hjalte | Yes, that'll be the case now. |
| 02:56.05 | Hjalte | It was OP before, but meh. |
| 02:57.18 | doom0r | that was hilarious |
| 02:57.18 | Shirik | sigh ckknight |
| 02:57.24 | ckknight | yes, Shirik? |
| 02:57.28 | Shirik | I want my 9 minutes back |
| 02:57.36 | ckknight | you don't deserve them back |
| 02:57.45 | ckknight | I have stolen them from you |
| 02:57.47 | Shirik | while it was amusing, I could have better spent my time completing my dawn of war campaign |
| 02:58.01 | Shirik | but I couldn't turn it off |
| 02:58.15 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r4911 Prototype.lua: koKR Update |
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| 03:05.55 | Torhal | ckknight: lolcat at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi7c9OEHNqA&feature=related |
| 03:06.32 | ckknight | Torhal: meh |
| 03:06.55 | Torhal | You wanted lolcats earlier...:D |
| 03:07.18 | Megalon | i thought lolcats implied that something is actually funny |
| 03:07.24 | rapidgame | i agree with Shirik |
| 03:07.38 | Torhal | Megalon: That's an awfully funny censor technique. |
| 03:07.46 | doom0r | censor what? |
| 03:07.49 | doom0r | a bra? |
| 03:07.54 | doom0r | what are you, 12? |
| 03:07.57 | rapidgame | while amuzing, wasn't 9 minute worthy |
| 03:08.00 | Torhal | doom0r: Yes. Because we all know bras are the devil |
| 03:08.01 | doom0r | :P |
| 03:08.07 | rapidgame | s/amuzing/amusing/ |
| 03:08.25 | doom0r | i know, srsly, should have been least 15 |
| 03:09.15 | Torhal | So I'm trying to figure out where the hell the text went on my Pitbull4 install. |
| 03:09.34 | Megalon | perhaps it got censored.. by lolcats |
| 03:09.37 | Megalon | who knows |
| 03:09.40 | ckknight | Torhal: I destroyed it. |
| 03:09.47 | ckknight | Torhal: no more texts |
| 03:09.50 | ckknight | Torhal: use your imagination |
| 03:09.52 | Torhal | I thought you were destroying beautiful things. |
| 03:10.00 | ckknight | Torhal: lulz |
| 03:10.00 | Torhal | Text is just text. |
| 03:10.04 | Torhal | Bah. |
| 03:10.09 | ckknight | Torhal: in any event, I changed how the DB works |
| 03:10.18 | ckknight | Torhal: make sure you're 100% up-to-date, have no errors |
| 03:10.26 | ckknight | then if that fails, /script PitBull4DB = nil |
| 03:10.27 | ckknight | and reload |
| 03:10.36 | Torhal | I actually grabbed the latest push because the one before nuked my text |
| 03:10.43 | Torhal | Doing so now. |
| 03:10.45 | ckknight | ah |
| 03:10.50 | rapidgame | hahaha http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=M7ocLglFh1s&feature=related |
| 03:11.02 | ckknight | you could open up your SVs and change where it says first = false to first = true |
| 03:11.06 | ckknight | it'll recreate the default texts |
| 03:11.49 | Torhal | Looks like I need to edit my SV. |
| 03:11.54 | Torhal | Fucking login queues. |
| 03:15.11 | RaydenU | anub'rekhan |
| 03:15.14 | RaydenU | tank kites inside the goo right? |
| 03:15.16 | RaydenU | not outside? |
| 03:15.57 | Torhal | Ah, nice. Portrait moved as well. |
| 03:16.10 | Torhal | Well, not due to changing SVs, but you know... |
| 03:16.22 | Gnarfoz | RaydenU: 25man? just heal through it xD |
| 03:16.30 | rapidgame | arrgg, trying to get back on topic - did Cart3.0 v0.10.2 use another form of RC other than git? |
| 03:16.34 | RaydenU | 10 man |
| 03:16.37 | Gnarfoz | RaydenU: otherwise, he kites on the outer ring |
| 03:16.39 | RaydenU | we're goin gto try healing through it |
| 03:16.43 | RaydenU | outside or inside the goo? |
| 03:16.53 | Gnarfoz | ? doesn't the goo like, do damage |
| 03:16.56 | RaydenU | it does |
| 03:16.59 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 03:17.00 | RaydenU | but there is a path around it |
| 03:17.02 | Gnarfoz | outside the goo then. |
| 03:17.08 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 03:17.18 | Gnarfoz | there is an outer ring |
| 03:17.25 | Gnarfoz | he kites on that |
| 03:17.29 | Gnarfoz | anub will stay on the platform |
| 03:17.57 | ckknight | rapidgame: no, it never did |
| 03:17.57 | doom0r | some really great strat pics were made back in naxx v1 |
| 03:17.59 | doom0r | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Nax_anub.png |
| 03:18.14 | Gnarfoz | or... maybe I'm forgetting stuff because I haven't done 10man naxx more than 3 times before doing all 25man content on 1 day xD |
| 03:18.25 | Gnarfoz | doom0r: damn xD |
| 03:18.28 | RaydenU | not all of that is labelled |
| 03:18.34 | RaydenU | what's the red on the left? |
| 03:18.46 | Gnarfoz | doom0r: however, that one has the tank kite on the platform |
| 03:19.03 | doom0r | um |
| 03:19.06 | doom0r | red's your boss |
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| 03:19.10 | RaydenU | on the left |
| 03:19.10 | rapidgame | ckknight, so v0.10.2 had no RC, but v0.10.3 and beyond use RC? |
| 03:19.12 | RaydenU | small red |
| 03:19.16 | doom0r | "if it's red, it's dead" |
| 03:19.17 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r4912 / (16 files in 2 directories): deDE update |
| 03:19.20 | Repo | - Shortened most messages to actually be readable in-game |
| 03:19.21 | ckknight | rapidgame: it _always_ used Git |
| 03:19.22 | Gnarfoz | which I have... never seen working because Anub will just catch up to him and he'll stack Locust Swarm high really quickly |
| 03:19.23 | Repo | - Spell-checking |
| 03:19.25 | Repo | - Fixed a few triggers |
| 03:19.33 | doom0r | locust i believe |
| 03:19.36 | doom0r | according to legend |
| 03:19.45 | doom0r | o |
| 03:19.54 | doom0r | maybe not |
| 03:20.12 | doom0r | iono, read the strat :P |
| 03:20.17 | rapidgame | ckknight: hmm, because the v0.10.2 and v0.10.3 changelog formats are different on the curse site, is that git or the packager? |
| 03:20.24 | ckknight | the packager |
| 03:20.35 | Gnarfoz | anyway, as soon as the cd timer for locust swarm is up, our tank moved to the edge of the platform |
| 03:20.58 | Zhinjio | crap |
| 03:21.01 | Zhinjio | buttonbin is fail too |
| 03:21.19 | Zhinjio | Torhal: which one did you say you were using now? |
| 03:21.19 | rapidgame | does the packager do that by default? |
| 03:21.22 | Gnarfoz | and then as soon as he started casting, started running along the outer ring (the one beyond the slime, seen from the middle - to be clear) |
| 03:21.24 | doom0r | RaydenU: left should be adds i believe |
| 03:21.26 | Torhal | Zhinjio: DockingStation |
| 03:21.34 | ckknight | rapidgame: yes |
| 03:21.38 | Torhal | And what is fail about ButtonBin? |
| 03:22.05 | Zhinjio | can it do a vertical bar? |
| 03:22.26 | Zhinjio | for some reason, some data sources can't be dragged from one bar to another. |
| 03:22.30 | Zhinjio | \I haven't figured out why yet |
| 03:22.31 | doom0r | did you get it drunk and show it the keg? |
| 03:23.08 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Yah, I had mine mocked up like FuBar |
| 03:23.14 | Zhinjio | can it do a vertical bar? |
| 03:23.36 | Torhal | Had three bins at the top. Bin 1 was all the way across the top, two was situated in the center, and 3 was at the right and grew to the left |
| 03:23.53 | Torhal | Should be able to do vertical yes |
| 03:23.59 | Zhinjio | ok, I'll give it a try |
| 03:24.03 | Torhal | Max one button per row should do the trick |
| 03:24.31 | doom0r | Ability to toggle horizontal and vertical growth direction (toggle x/y axis) |
| 03:24.47 | Torhal | doom0r: Indeed. |
| 03:25.11 | RaydenU | we are getting SOOO many scarabs halfway through |
| 03:25.18 | Torhal | Though it took me explaining my old layout to realize he said vertical. Twice. |
| 03:25.37 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 03:27.02 | Gnarfoz | RaydenU: they spawn from the add's corpse... and from player corpses. at least they did in naxx60 so... :\ |
| 03:27.32 | RaydenU | ah yeah |
| 03:27.34 | RaydenU | our corpses |
| 03:27.57 | Xinhuan | alternatively - dont' kill the adds, so there are no corpses ;p |
| 03:28.04 | Zhinjio | ok, nice. This does what I want. |
| 03:28.06 | Xinhuan | just offtank both of them |
| 03:28.18 | Torhal | Zhinjio: So, you fail? :) |
| 03:28.54 | Zhinjio | your logic is flawed. |
| 03:29.01 | Zhinjio | but yes, I suppose I do. |
| 03:29.16 | Torhal | Not really. You said ButtonBin failed, when in fact it did not. :) |
| 03:29.32 | thul | http://www.nettavisen.no/imagecache/parameter/?upsizable=true&action=resize&width=785&height=-1&url=http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00684/Jobbannonser_job_68453216x9.jpg |
| 03:30.25 | Torhal | thul: That dude's hair is scary. |
| 03:30.42 | Torhal | I bet he used it to rip a hole in the fabric of time. |
| 03:30.47 | thul | http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00684/marja_684520a.jpg |
| 03:32.15 | Zhinjio | no, buttonbin did fail. DockingStation is doing what I want. |
| 03:32.17 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: he's doing 10man, there should be only 1 add, and only after it spawns :> |
| 03:32.19 | pentium166 | lol. |
| 03:32.25 | theoddone33 | first night of 3 drake attempts |
| 03:32.27 | theoddone33 | kind of tough |
| 03:32.29 | Xinhuan | ah even easier ;p |
| 03:33.29 | ckknight | thul: if I needed someone of those skills, he seems like he'd be on the level, really, since he's up-front about everything |
| 03:34.22 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Bah |
| 03:34.41 | Torhal | How's the launcher thingy coming along? |
| 03:35.06 | doom0r | btw, it's P.O. Box 322 |
| 03:36.02 | *** join/#wowace bien| (n=bien@pD9E6FE69.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 03:36.19 | ckknight | ugh, I hate this |
| 03:36.26 | ckknight | documenting something in PitBull4 |
| 03:36.28 | doom0r | the second guy probably is a safer bet than most corporate ceo's |
| 03:36.39 | ckknight | unlike pretty much the rest of it, I neglected to document before writing |
| 03:36.52 | ckknight | so there's one part that I have no fucking idea why this is done |
| 03:36.54 | Zhinjio | Torhal: shell is done. I'm in the middle of stuff. maybe get time over the next couple days |
| 03:36.55 | rapidgame | is there a way to track when a player recieves money as loot (apart from checking the conents of the bag every few seconds)? |
| 03:37.05 | ckknight | rapidgame: yea, an event fires |
| 03:37.12 | ckknight | don't ask me which one |
| 03:37.29 | rapidgame | lol, i guess i've asked you enough anyway haha ;-) |
| 03:37.35 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r30 / (5 files in 1 directory): |
| 03:37.42 | *** join/#wowace silentium (i=silentiu@dslb-088-066-015-043.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 03:37.47 | Repo | Stable, working, with a couple of new /hl commands integrating HSK with HazLoot |
| 03:37.50 | Repo | Known issue: gets confused when when you close a bag mid-loot (mocks and tests are bad) |
| 03:38.10 | doom0r | CHAT_MSG_MONEY |
| 03:38.20 | ckknight | that's it |
| 03:38.25 | ckknight | mmm... Monies |
| 03:38.35 | Zhinjio | ok, dockingstation is pretty damn awesome. |
| 03:39.03 | Xinhuan | doom0r: not necessarily |
| 03:39.34 | Xinhuan | the chat doesn't contain money loot if you aren't grouped |
| 03:39.38 | rapidgame | doom0r: thanks man, would have taken a while for me to find that ;-) |
| 03:39.51 | Bruners | theres also PLAYER_MONEY |
| 03:39.55 | Xinhuan | so if rapidgame uses that it would only work while he is in a group |
| 03:40.08 | Zhinjio | I only see one thing I'd like that it doesn't appear to have |
| 03:40.29 | Zhinjio | spacing between plugins and padding to top/bottom borders |
| 03:40.44 | doom0r | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/P#PLAYER_MONEY |
| 03:40.50 | rapidgame | Xinhuan: oh, i'll look into it |
| 03:41.02 | rapidgame | doom0r: cool, already there haha |
| 03:41.34 | Zhinjio | shit |
| 03:41.38 | Zhinjio | it doesn't do vertical |
| 03:41.42 | Zhinjio | max height: 50 |
| 03:41.52 | Zhinjio | FUCK. |
| 03:42.09 | Xinhuan | aren't you getting a bit picky here |
| 03:42.12 | Xinhuan | go write your own |
| 03:42.23 | quiescens | o.o |
| 03:42.25 | doom0r | how is that picky? |
| 03:42.28 | rapidgame | PLAYER_MONEY doesn't return the method that the player gained to money, is it possible to distinguish between money recieved from killing mobs, and my other actions such as from mail or trade? |
| 03:42.44 | Xinhuan | rapidgame: no |
| 03:42.50 | Zhinjio | rapidgame: go check out "AuditorFu" on wowi. |
| 03:42.56 | Torhal | Zhinjio: It does |
| 03:42.59 | Xinhuan | at least, not easily |
| 03:42.59 | rapidgame | I think i have an addon that does it though |
| 03:43.00 | Torhal | Between plugins anyway |
| 03:43.06 | Torhal | Lemme see where it is |
| 03:43.12 | Xinhuan | yes but it doesn't do it easily |
| 03:43.21 | Xinhuan | it ends up monitoring many aspects of your UI |
| 03:43.23 | doom0r | you have to watch every money event |
| 03:43.26 | Xinhuan | to see what you are doing |
| 03:43.30 | doom0r | like PLAYER_TRADE_MONEY |
| 03:43.39 | rapidgame | Zhinjio: yeah, it's not AuditorFu (I did have that pre-wrath) but, it think its analyst |
| 03:43.40 | doom0r | and more |
| 03:43.51 | Zhinjio | yup, go check 'em out. |
| 03:43.59 | rapidgame | okay, will look into it - thanks :-) |
| 03:44.07 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Panel Defaults/Spacing |
| 03:44.30 | Zhinjio | yes, I see |
| 03:44.35 | Zhinjio | but not between top/bottom edges |
| 03:44.39 | Torhal | Right |
| 03:44.40 | Zhinjio | its not as critical |
| 03:44.45 | Zhinjio | and: no vertical bar |
| 03:44.51 | rapidgame | just making sure there wasn't a PLAYER_LOOT_MONEY or GetLootedMoney() before i started looking through lines of lua haha |
| 03:44.54 | Torhal | But so far, he's been pretty good about adding stuff if it's reasonable to do so |
| 03:44.56 | Zhinjio | I guess I'll use ... hmm. buttonbin for that one |
| 03:45.02 | Gnarfoz | so does anyone else think changing all timer bar texts and warning texts in BigWigs to use actual time units in the strings rather than random abbreviations would be a good idea? (i.e. all references to seconds should be "s", all references to minutes "min", all without trailing dots, or spaces between value and unit - basically SI style) |
| 03:45.26 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: they should all say "sec" or "min" |
| 03:45.33 | Gnarfoz | sec is not a unit |
| 03:45.47 | doom0r | rapidgame: player loot money is CHAT_MSG_MONEY |
| 03:45.48 | vhaarr | sec is fine, everyone gets it |
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| 03:46.08 | Xinhuan | doom0r, CHAT_MSG_MONEY doesn't fire if you are not partied |
| 03:46.11 | Gnarfoz | indeed, but it's longer than necessary - and why I'm asking is: the most recent deDE update there was to trim texts that got abbreviated because they were too long |
| 03:46.31 | doom0r | then what fires when i see the money happen on my screen in chat? |
| 03:46.33 | Gnarfoz | also, the guy replaced full-lenght "Sekunden" with "sek." which is... wronger! :D |
| 03:46.33 | vhaarr | things shouldn't get abbreviated unless they're *really* common and well known abbreviations |
| 03:46.40 | vhaarr | like "sec" and "min" postfixing a number |
| 03:46.42 | Xinhuan | doom0r, you don't see money in chat |
| 03:46.46 | Xinhuan | if you aren't partied |
| 03:46.51 | Gnarfoz | well, it's not an abbreviaton at all :> |
| 03:46.59 | ckknight | SECONDS_ABBR:format(num) |
| 03:47.01 | Gnarfoz | but I guess as long as it fits on the bar |
| 03:47.04 | vhaarr | yes it is, go look up the meaning of the word "abbrevation" |
| 03:47.08 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: Apparently he made it one |
| 03:47.26 | Zhinjio | reuested |
| 03:47.26 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: "s" is not an abbreviation, was what I meant. |
| 03:47.28 | Zhinjio | requested. |
| 03:47.31 | ckknight | MINUTES_ABBR:format(num) |
| 03:47.37 | vhaarr | you can abbreviate whatever you want, that doesn't make it a "actual time unit", like Gnarfoz says |
| 03:47.40 | ckknight | and HOURS_ABBR:format(num) |
| 03:47.41 | Xinhuan | the game somehow thinks it isn't necessary to tell you how much coin you looted since you already know this from the loot window |
| 03:47.42 | vhaarr | but it's a fucking abbreviation still |
| 03:48.00 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: like I elaborated, I meant something else. "s" is the unit for seconds. ;) |
| 03:48.05 | vhaarr | that's fine |
| 03:48.13 | rapidgame | Xinhuan: haha, that sucks |
| 03:48.23 | vhaarr | but everyone understands "sec", and it's easier to spot behind a number, no matter what font you're using |
| 03:48.27 | vhaarr | it's also the same length as "min" |
| 03:48.39 | vhaarr | those two points make it superior to "s" in my opinion |
| 03:49.11 | ckknight | what's wrong with using the Blizz-provided SECONDS_ABBR? |
| 03:49.11 | ckknight | SECONDS_ABBR = "%d |4Sec:Sec;"; |
| 03:49.11 | ckknight | btw |
| 03:49.17 | Xinhuan | nothing wrong with it ckknight, just longer by 2 bytes ;p |
| 03:49.22 | vhaarr | ckknight: most of these strings are inside acelocale values |
| 03:49.25 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: so even blizz is doing it arbitrarily, yay ;> |
| 03:49.30 | Gnarfoz | yeah, the differing lengths were bothering me, too |
| 03:49.51 | Funkeh` | wtf |
| 03:50.00 | Funkeh` | there isn't a plural sec |
| 03:50.07 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: for english maybe |
| 03:50.10 | vhaarr | not in english |
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| 03:50.24 | Funkeh` | >.> |
| 03:50.36 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: so, eh, what was your proposal again |
| 03:50.36 | Gnarfoz | in xyZX who knows what the fuck the plurarl for sec might be ;p |
| 03:50.56 | Funkeh` | secs? |
| 03:51.07 | doom0r | http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5892/wowscrnshot011809214857iz3.jpg |
| 03:51.09 | ckknight | well |
| 03:51.10 | ckknight | SECONDS = "|4Second:Seconds;"; -- Seconds of time |
| 03:51.17 | doom0r | Xinhuan: ^ then what is that? |
| 03:51.36 | Xinhuan | i dont' know doom0r, half the time looting gold doesn't display in my chat |
| 03:51.42 | Xinhuan | and its only when i'm unpartied |
| 03:51.43 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: err it was: use "s" and "min" everywhere, basically. I do have to say, in enUS it wouldn't make much of a difference, I guess I was biased by looking through that last deDE update (which I don't even use, just curious what got changed) |
| 03:51.45 | doom0r | it always does in mine |
| 03:52.02 | Xinhuan | i've noted this odd behavior for 3-4 years |
| 03:52.07 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: well I hope I convinced you otherwise now, but as for the deDE changes, I already commented on that as well |
| 03:52.19 | ckknight | SECOND_ONELETTER_ABBR = "%d s"; |
| 03:52.20 | ckknight | :P |
| 03:52.24 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: <vhaarr> things shouldn't get abbreviated unless they're *really* common and well known abbreviations |
| 03:52.39 | ckknight | also MINUTE_ONELETTER_ABBR = "%d m"; |
| 03:52.41 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: basically if the deDE guy made mistakes, he should be whacked with a stick and reverted |
| 03:52.43 | ckknight | and hour and day |
| 03:52.50 | Funkeh` | yes well Im not sure why a translator would have chose sekonded over sek in the first place |
| 03:53.05 | rapidgame | doom0r: hmm, i'll try it and see - but if it doesnt work for Xinhuan there's a chance it wont work for others, maybe a setting in the Blizzards options changes the display |
| 03:53.13 | Xinhuan | perhaps there's ample screen space to use the full word |
| 03:53.14 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: can you give me an example of where you think he messed up? I don't have a diff here |
| 03:53.35 | doom0r | well, whether is displays or not doesn't necessarily meant that event doesn't fire |
| 03:53.46 | Funkeh` | He didn't mess up he chaned references of sekunden and minuten / etc to sek min |
| 03:53.50 | doom0r | keep that in mind |
| 03:53.56 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: ah, well that's a good thing |
| 03:53.59 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: I didn't say he did, he actually improved on the previous revision, because *that* one had full lenght "Sekunden" in many texts, which lead to them being auto-abbreviated because of not fitting on the timer bars. |
| 03:54.13 | Funkeh` | yer |
| 03:54.14 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: any on-screen alert that you can't parse *instantly* without actually reading it is worthless |
| 03:54.24 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: read that again ^ |
| 03:54.32 | Gnarfoz | I was just dumbfounded by why he didn't go all the way and reduce "Sekunden" to "s" instead of stopping half way at "Sek." ^^ |
| 03:54.33 | rapidgame | doom0r: true that, thanks :-) I'm going to do some testing in WoW now haha |
| 03:54.37 | Xinhuan | blame german language, words all too long in it! |
| 03:54.47 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: so if you see some translator who violates what I just said, then report! |
| 03:54.59 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: Sekunde vs. "Second" hmmm +1 letter :> |
| 03:55.42 | Funkeh` | Deep Breath in 1 minute fucker sounds better |
| 03:55.44 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: I will, when someone in my raid who actually uses this abombination of a locale (referring to wow's own localization now) whines about it :D |
| 03:55.49 | Xinhuan | also who's brilliant idea was it tomake boneshield -40% |
| 03:55.54 | doom0r | anythings gotta be better than reading some retarded hand drawn character |
| 03:55.56 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: good :P |
| 03:56.07 | Bruners | what bar texture is in use here http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw19239.png ? |
| 03:56.20 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: btw, broker_cma is fun. I was expecting higher numbers, though, somehow ^^ |
| 03:56.27 | vhaarr | ah cool |
| 03:56.33 | vhaarr | I won't be able to see it in action until wednesday |
| 03:56.43 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: what's your record? :P |
| 03:56.49 | Gnarfoz | 8kb/s I think |
| 03:56.50 | doom0r | hard to say Bruners: looks like flat with edge shading |
| 03:56.53 | vhaarr | woot |
| 03:56.56 | Gnarfoz | for highest second |
| 03:57.05 | vhaarr | highest I've had outside of raids is like 700 b/s |
| 03:57.06 | Gnarfoz | highest average... can't say right now |
| 03:57.15 | Gnarfoz | yeah outside of raid it was really low |
| 03:57.39 | Gnarfoz | kind of makes me want to know which channel shit was hitting the fan ^^ |
| 03:57.40 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: does it need to automatically change to show kb/s when appropriate? |
| 03:57.52 | vhaarr | or should it just stay with b/s |
| 03:58.05 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: probably. easier to parse, etc. like you just said above ;) |
| 03:58.35 | vhaarr | not really, this is a changing number, you see, and if the unit changes then you can't see it at-a-glance any more |
| 03:58.42 | falconindy | anyone familiar with combat event parsing? i'm sorta rewriting misdirect helper for tricks of the trade and having problems catching the first event that actually procs tricks on the target when im counting damage dealt |
| 03:58.43 | vhaarr | you'll have to parse the suffix every time you peek at it |
| 03:58.51 | Gnarfoz | I guess people who're interested in it will be capable of understanding that a 1 figure kb/s number is still bigger than a 3 figure b/s number |
| 03:59.14 | Gnarfoz | probably either way works ^^ |
| 03:59.20 | vhaarr | alright |
| 04:01.20 | Gnarfoz | ~seen zidomo |
| 04:01.41 | purl | zidomo <i=chatzill@bas9-toronto12-1088717409.dsl.bell.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 181d 2h 5m 56s ago, saying: 'heh. for a useless feature'. |
| 04:01.52 | Gnarfoz | shit, 5am |
| 04:01.52 | Gnarfoz | xD |
| 04:02.15 | Gnarfoz | sleep time left: 90min :( |
| 04:03.39 | Repo | 10gridstatusmending: 03Sayclub * r9 GridStatusMending.lua: added koKR localization |
| 04:06.43 | Bruners | doom0r: seems to be glamour4 from SharedMedia |
| 04:07.19 | *** part/#wowace falconindy (n=dave@cpe-74-76-171-119.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 04:07.23 | taleden | there's no way to make an addon load first (or at least early) without specifically naming the addons to load it before, is there? |
| 04:08.07 | doom0r | not unless you had some ridiculous loader management |
| 04:08.09 | ckknight | even that doesn't work all the time |
| 04:08.27 | Gnarfoz | probably easier to figure out if what you want to do can be done otherwise |
| 04:08.52 | taleden | well, the alternative is hunting down any local references that anyone made to a global, so that I can change them, but that clearly isn't possible :) |
| 04:09.22 | Gnarfoz | ...what |
| 04:09.23 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 04:11.28 | ckknight | what are you doing? |
| 04:13.36 | rapidgame | well, i think CHAT_MSG_MONEY fires both in and out of parties |
| 04:14.48 | rapidgame | so even if it doesn't show in the Chat Log, it will still fire the event |
| 04:15.42 | taleden | is EnableMouse required for OnEnter/OnLeave to fire? or only click-related stuff? |
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| 04:16.19 | ckknight | taleden: both |
| 04:16.21 | Xinhuan | both |
| 04:16.28 | taleden | durn. |
| 04:16.47 | ckknight | on a lighter note, why do men have nipples? it seems utterly absurd. I don't need these. |
| 04:17.32 | Xinhuan | http://www.google.com.sg/search?q=why+do+men+have+nipples&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B3GGGL_en___SG281 |
| 04:17.34 | Gnarfoz | you want to give up one erogenic (wtf that might be spelled totally wrong) zone? |
| 04:17.53 | ckknight | erogenous |
| 04:17.53 | Xinhuan | quite a few thousand answers |
| 04:18.01 | ckknight | still |
| 04:18.11 | ckknight | if this is intelligent design, it's not _that_ intelligent |
| 04:18.16 | Xinhuan | The answer is that as embryos men and women have similar tissues and body parts. If anything the embryo follows a 'female template'. That is why nipples are present in both sexes. It is the effect of the genes, the Y chromosome and the hormone testosterone that brings about the changes and masculinises the embryo. |
| 04:18.29 | Xinhuan | Testosterone promotes the growth of the penis and testicles. Because nipples are there before this process begins the nipples stay! |
| 04:18.40 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: who said it was... :p |
| 04:18.44 | Xinhuan | Nipples and breast tissue have no function as such except for perhaps protecting the heart and lungs from injury. |
| 04:18.57 | doom0r | Xinhuan: gtfo of the house for a change |
| 04:18.59 | taleden | so really, male nipples are a sign of god/flyingspeghettimonster/creator/whoever using object oriented design |
| 04:19.01 | ckknight | Xinhuan: and kill us with their cancer! |
| 04:19.08 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 04:19.10 | taleden | the genderless superclass has stub functions for nipples |
| 04:19.17 | ckknight | lol, taleden |
| 04:19.33 | ckknight | self.nipples.tweak |
| 04:20.07 | Bruners | ckknight: it would look wierd without them |
| 04:20.16 | ckknight | Bruners: only because we're used to them |
| 04:20.44 | ckknight | you don't think that if every person had 4 arms, we'd think it'd be weird if we met someone missing two? |
| 04:20.53 | ckknight | :P |
| 04:20.54 | Zhinjio | I like the object oriented design answer. |
| 04:20.57 | Zhinjio | thats freaking awesome. |
| 04:21.32 | Bruners | ckknight: my guess is that girly tits would be even more awesome if we didnt have them |
| 04:21.40 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:22.16 | Bruners | or that we are all born the like and then its deceided wether we are to be a boy or girl |
| 04:22.28 | Bruners | which is a fact :P |
| 04:22.34 | ckknight | hang on |
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| 04:22.40 | ckknight | there's a bash.org quote about this |
| 04:23.04 | Gnarfoz | god damn nerds keeping random shit to recall at occasions like this :p |
| 04:23.16 | Bruners | all humans are born with girly sexual organs iirc |
| 04:23.24 | Gnarfoz | s/iirc/on irc/ |
| 04:23.40 | Bruners | then shit evolves and a penis comes out |
| 04:24.08 | ckknight | http://bash.org/?715285 |
| 04:24.11 | Gnarfoz | shit... evolving... ugh |
| 04:24.31 | ckknight | relevant |
| 04:24.49 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz 04v0.2-beta * r31 : Tagging as v0.2-beta |
| 04:26.49 | Bruners | ckknight: or a simple answer, god wanted us to have them |
| 04:27.02 | ckknight | that's a cop-out |
| 04:27.06 | ckknight | imo |
| 04:27.18 | ckknight | or if we are made in his image, then he is obviously imperfect |
| 04:27.33 | ckknight | at which point, why would we call him God? |
| 04:27.36 | ckknight | :P |
| 04:27.36 | taleden | or obviously also has nipples |
| 04:27.49 | Bruners | i just call im god |
| 04:28.37 | ckknight | injects the channel with other atheistic propaganda |
| 04:28.41 | Bruners | think how awesome it could have been if he existed |
| 04:28.58 | taleden | who, the flying spaghetti monster? |
| 04:29.02 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 04:29.07 | Bruners | do a little prayer and voila free beer |
| 04:29.11 | Bruners | and epix! |
| 04:29.17 | Repo | 10broker_sysmon: 03Rabbit * r49 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 04:29.19 | Repo | * Simplify a bit more, specifically the increasing rate plugin |
| 04:29.22 | Repo | * Memory plugin now shows the top 10 addons (memory usage) |
| 04:29.24 | Repo | * Note to self: adding properties to LDB objects triggers a load of callbacks |
| 04:29.32 | ckknight | my religion is actually kinda wacky, but it works for me |
| 04:29.47 | taleden | if only everyone devised religion that way, we wouldn't have dogma wars |
| 04:29.56 | Bruners | i like to think that i dont one |
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| 04:30.17 | Bruners | s/dont/dont have |
| 04:31.11 | ckknight | my belief system is nihilistic on a practical level, but not so on a theoretical level |
| 04:32.19 | ckknight | yea, good times |
| 04:32.20 | Silowyi | anyone here use zero sum dkp through webdkp? If so, could I take a look at your loot table (and possibly copy it? ^_^) |
| 04:32.33 | Silowyi | trying to avoid manually assigning values to lots of items :P |
| 04:32.42 | Xinhuan | just do something like |
| 04:32.46 | Repo | 10broker_sysmon: 03Rabbit * r50 Broker_SysMon.lua: Don't count to infinity. |
| 04:32.52 | Xinhuan | all helms = 200, all legs = 200, all bracer = 100, etc |
| 04:32.55 | Xinhuan | if yu are lazy |
| 04:33.10 | Xinhuan | then add 25 DKp to an item if its itemlevel is higher than normal (like KT loot) |
| 04:33.14 | Silowyi | that's what we're going to do if we can't find a good list that reflects relative value |
| 04:33.29 | Silowyi | heh |
| 04:33.37 | Silowyi | KT/Malygos itemization is weird |
| 04:33.44 | vhaarr | ckknight: if I copy something to "/tags/v1.0", that will be marked as a 'Release', right? |
| 04:33.49 | doom0r | value of an item is relative to the class |
| 04:33.53 | ckknight | correct, vhaarr |
| 04:33.56 | vhaarr | thank you |
| 04:34.17 | ckknight | vhaarr: note that even if you were to put v1.0-awesome, you could change the file to release after-the-fact |
| 04:34.47 | vhaarr | ckknight: yeah, I've done that up to now, thanks |
| 04:35.03 | Silowyi | between KT and Malygos, which our guild has not yet killed on heroic, I want a grand total of two items. |
| 04:35.18 | Silowyi | oh... and of course the mount XD |
| 04:35.23 | Xinhuan | that's about 3 zones of dungeons between KT and Malygos :) |
| 04:35.44 | Silowyi | KT being Kel'Thuzad |
| 04:36.06 | Repo | 10broker_sysmon: 03Rabbit 04v1.0 * r51 : Tagging 1.0 release. |
| 04:36.20 | Silowyi | just saying that they don't really have much for a DK |
| 04:36.37 | Silowyi | but I understand that for some caster classes those two bosses have like 8 upgrades between the two of them |
| 04:36.46 | Xinhuan | not really |
| 04:36.54 | Xinhuan | only 2 items of those 8 are of those |
| 04:37.00 | Xinhuan | only 2 items of those 8 are "best in slot" the rest aren't |
| 04:37.22 | Xinhuan | and if you were to take 4 of those 8 items you would just be ridiculed |
| 04:37.40 | Silowyi | I suppose I'm not up on what is best for casters as much |
| 04:37.42 | doom0r | Xinhuan: you're using pov |
| 04:38.10 | Silowyi | just that the plate 2h dps offerings from those two are rather pitiful |
| 04:38.25 | doom0r | people spend a whole week in there wiping, some things may be upgrades more than you would expect :P |
| 04:38.50 | Xinhuan | they did the loot so that some pieces are (dmg + hit + spi) (dmg + hit) (dmg + crit + mp5) (dmg + haste) |
| 04:38.52 | Xinhuan | something like that |
| 04:38.57 | Silowyi | even the 2h axe is rather poorly itemized for DKs, it's just got MASSIVE dps... though I understand it's awesomeness for most other 2h classes. |
| 04:39.04 | doom0r | Silowyi: best in slot gloves pre25 come from a heroic |
| 04:39.08 | Xinhuan | so if you were a DPSer, you have little to no use for the pieces with spirit/mp5 |
| 04:39.19 | Xinhuan | as such, while they are upgrades, you don't really want them at all |
| 04:39.48 | Xinhuan | likewise, as a healer, you wouldn't want pieces with hit on it |
| 04:39.55 | doom0r | the 10 man really is not a logical step from heroics |
| 04:39.59 | Xinhuan | and you may value mp5 far above spirit |
| 04:40.03 | doom0r | it's a step from normal 5man imo |
| 04:40.15 | Xinhuan | so while 4 pieces of loot is "upgrades" only 1-2 of them really are applicable to your spec |
| 04:41.21 | Silowyi | doom0r I'm talking about 25 man |
| 04:41.43 | Xinhuan | the plate dps loot is supposed to cover the needs of 3 classes though |
| 04:42.04 | Silowyi | yeah and there's only like I said, 2 or 3 items, there's more tanking items actually |
| 04:42.41 | Xinhuan | i was just debunking your comment that some people have 8 loot from 2 bosses ;p |
| 04:42.46 | Silowyi | I really don't see why anyone would spend weeks wiping in 25 naxx. We had 10 man naxx cleared twice before starting 25s, and we cleared naxx 25 on our first try in about 6 hours. |
| 04:43.21 | doom0r | what's sad is i see pugs do it faster than guilds |
| 04:43.31 | Silowyi | yeah I know |
| 04:43.48 | Cryect | Its just a really easy place so not too strange |
| 04:43.51 | Silowyi | actually probably 10 of our members had Naxx 25 cleared in pugs before we started officially raiding it |
| 04:44.11 | Silowyi | Malygos 25 is at 27% after 3 hours of attempts, mostly because we had some DPS that insisted on standing in front of him after vortex. |
| 04:44.17 | Silowyi | (over and over again) |
| 04:45.00 | Cryect | Any DPS that stands in front of anything resembling a dragon needs to quit this game |
| 04:45.11 | doom0r | heh |
| 04:45.18 | Silowyi | we got lazy on Malygos 10 |
| 04:45.31 | Silowyi | you have time to DPS underneath him, then the tank brings him down and drags him around |
| 04:45.53 | Silowyi | Malygos 25 he's like "better clear the ground before I land *WTFPWNFACE*" |
| 04:46.09 | Silowyi | so you have to be behind him when he lands |
| 04:46.38 | Xinhuan | how does your raid handle it |
| 04:46.45 | Silowyi | simple |
| 04:46.54 | Silowyi | take 3 steps in the opposite direction the tank is going to step in |
| 04:46.59 | Silowyi | it works well |
| 04:47.05 | Xinhuan | well does your tank randomly run in a direction on landing? |
| 04:47.08 | Silowyi | nope |
| 04:47.19 | Xinhuan | or a specific direction, or a direction he calls out? |
| 04:47.42 | Xinhuan | also putting a raid mark on him works very well |
| 04:47.44 | Silowyi | everyone knows where the tank is going |
| 04:48.09 | Xinhuan | you can also remind everyone to "point their camera" in the direction they are going to run on landing while in the vortex |
| 04:48.29 | Silowyi | srsly it was just a couple people failing, we got it together on the last few attempts, so now it's people learning not to fail at shielding |
| 04:48.38 | doom0r | Xinhuan: that's asking for deaths |
| 04:48.46 | doom0r | people unbind the turn/strafe keys |
| 04:48.57 | Xinhuan | by turn, i mean use your mouse right click |
| 04:49.04 | Xinhuan | and face your char in that direction |
| 04:49.06 | doom0r | most people can't handle moving efficiently |
| 04:49.22 | doom0r | ya, turn your camera then they can't tell why they're running at their camera :P |
| 04:49.34 | Xinhuan | so you point your camera say, south, and when you land, your camera is facing south, so you just run straight south (assuming your tank says he's going north) |
| 04:49.48 | doom0r | duh |
| 04:49.57 | doom0r | getting 24 people to do it is a different thing |
| 04:50.33 | doom0r | we used to try that on something prebcc |
| 04:50.35 | Xinhuan | dunno about your server heh |
| 04:50.36 | doom0r | prebc* |
| 04:50.38 | doom0r | never worked |
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| 04:50.42 | Xinhuan | but on mine, most pugs can kill malygos |
| 04:50.56 | doom0r | a pug has a better chance than a guild |
| 04:51.44 | Silowyi | yup |
| 04:51.51 | NeoTron | so I figured out why oRA2 didn't set master looter correctly |
| 04:52.06 | NeoTron | it has a saved variable for the master looter that is never shown. it was set to the name of an alt |
| 04:52.12 | doom0r | "o god, i have to raid at 6, wtf" vs. "hey, there's a raid for xMob, let's go wtfpwn that" |
| 04:52.20 | NeoTron | so either it needs to just use the leader or it needs to be configurable.. |
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| 04:54.29 | doom0r | ping one of them NeoTron then :P |
| 04:54.55 | doom0r | god that was worded awful |
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| 04:57.35 | Silowyi | so... I advertise for enchanting |
| 04:57.43 | Silowyi | and people send me "hey I need an enchant." |
| 04:57.47 | Silowyi | "k..." |
| 04:57.50 | Silowyi | "On my rogue..." |
| 04:57.54 | Silowyi | "alright..." |
| 04:57.55 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r344 modules/TargetHealth.lua: |
| 04:57.57 | Silowyi | "I have the matts." |
| 04:57.58 | Repo | - added user-requested toggle to color the TargetHealth bar by hostility if the target is an NPC and the bar is set to use class coloring (instead of health % coloring) |
| 04:57.59 | Repo | - cleaned up the options and options dependencies a bit in the target health module |
| 04:58.23 | Silowyi | srsly... |
| 05:02.03 | doom0r | that's not bad Silowyi |
| 05:02.23 | doom0r | "what u put on my belt??" |
| 05:03.20 | doom0r | or LF tailor - winter hat - have mats |
| 05:05.00 | doom0r | least people dont' freak out about having to trade mats to have something made like they did prebc |
| 05:06.16 | Bruners | i wont ever do that to an unguilded dude |
| 05:06.53 | doom0r | ? |
| 05:07.01 | quiescens | eh |
| 05:07.11 | quiescens | I don't recall it being a particular problem |
| 05:07.11 | doom0r | you make an agreement in chat aforehand |
| 05:07.20 | doom0r | they do something, you get a gm and they get a banhammer |
| 05:07.35 | doom0r | works pretty well, even if it's a temp |
| 05:07.47 | quiescens | at the least you'll get the mats back anyway |
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| 05:08.21 | Chosi | morning |
| 05:08.41 | Bruners | the GM's do that? |
| 05:08.48 | Chosi | anybody using pawn can tell me if there's up to date strings for rogues? maybe from EJ or something similar? |
| 05:08.49 | doom0r | they have to |
| 05:08.59 | Repo | 10acheron: 03Nickodemus_wow 041.1.1 * r66 : Tagging as 1.1.1 |
| 05:09.42 | Bruners | doom0r: i dont see why they have to do that |
| 05:10.19 | Chosi | what are you talking about? |
| 05:10.24 | Chosi | what do GMs do? :) |
| 05:10.24 | doom0r | you made an agreement, trading is required since that's the way the system works |
| 05:10.48 | Bruners | GM's holding hands |
| 05:10.49 | doom0r | if you fail to make an agreement in chat beforehand |
| 05:10.52 | doom0r | you're sol |
| 05:10.58 | Chosi | :p |
| 05:11.00 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r4913 Naxxramas (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 05:11.02 | Repo | Fix different time, depending on Dungeon Difficulty.(Gluth, Loatheb) |
| 05:11.07 | Hjalte | I've had GMs give me some money back that someone scammed from me by removing the money fast when we traded. |
| 05:11.21 | Chosi | ah i see |
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| 05:12.19 | Bruners | Hjalte: that got to have been pre tbc? |
| 05:12.45 | Hjalte | Bruners: Nope, it was in the middle of TBC, I remember it being something I could buy with badges and sell on. |
| 05:13.04 | Hjalte | The scammer didn't only scam me though, so a lot of people reported him. |
| 05:13.06 | Bruners | havent they had the green trade thingie for ages now? |
| 05:13.53 | Hjalte | Sure, if I had been more careful, I might have been able to avoid it, but I was going to a raid and I was in a hurry. I'm also not getting in to trouble that often, which might have helped. |
| 05:14.33 | Bruners | never had anyone try to scam me |
| 05:14.36 | doom0r | the only times i've dealt with gm's is to fix issues with their stuff or another player |
| 05:15.01 | Chosi | well somebody tried to sell me the brightwood staff wrapped in paper some years ago :> |
| 05:15.10 | Chosi | he was sending it via mail |
| 05:15.16 | doom0r | lol |
| 05:15.22 | Chosi | and i asked a gm what's inside the gift |
| 05:15.45 | Chosi | he told me my concerns were good and that there's flint and tinder inside |
| 05:15.49 | Chosi | :> |
| 05:15.56 | doom0r | haha |
| 05:17.13 | Bruners | Chosi: did you send a reply mail? "enjoy your flint and tinder" |
| 05:17.20 | Chosi | ;D |
| 05:17.23 | Chosi | nah :) |
| 05:18.04 | Chosi | there were also ppl trying to scam ppl with selling Orb of Deception |
| 05:18.10 | Chosi | and removing them from the trade window |
| 05:18.19 | CIA-63 | panda: 03Tekkub 07master * r430a732 10/ (ButtonFactory.lua Enchanting.lua PanelFactory.lua): Add custom icons for enchanting panels (and elsewhere?) - http://tinyurl.com/8omvc7 |
| 05:18.20 | Chosi | for some reason this worked some years ago |
| 05:18.20 | CIA-63 | panda: 03Tekkub 07master * r19d2f8c 10/ (ButtonFactory.lua Enchanting.lua): New panels, ench boots. chest, gloves - http://tinyurl.com/785w3h |
| 05:18.20 | CIA-63 | panda: 03Tekkub 07master * r99c8a0b 10/ (ButtonFactory.lua Enchanting.lua): More enchant icons - http://tinyurl.com/7mar6x |
| 05:18.44 | Chosi | this was when orbs of deception were the ultra coolest thing on earth |
| 05:18.44 | doom0r | there was issues with the trade frame |
| 05:18.49 | Chosi | it's still great |
| 05:18.50 | Chosi | :) |
| 05:18.58 | Chosi | and i still don't have one :S |
| 05:19.06 | Bruners | was an issue with that crusader mat orbs aswell |
| 05:19.19 | Chosi | ah yeah |
| 05:19.23 | Chosi | they looked the same |
| 05:19.25 | doom0r | i never had problems |
| 05:19.25 | Chosi | as other stuff |
| 05:19.28 | Chosi | something like that |
| 05:19.39 | Chosi | doom0r: are you maintaining wishlist? |
| 05:20.00 | doom0r | i was one of the most sought after enchanters, so i also had world first guilds that would craft what i needed |
| 05:20.03 | Chosi | because, well despite the fact the menu works, i can't add items due to that error |
| 05:20.16 | doom0r | no |
| 05:20.25 | Chosi | hrm ok |
| 05:20.39 | doom0r | is wishlist in a directory named: Wishlist |
| 05:20.55 | doom0r | or is it Wishlist-0.5 like it was showing in that message? |
| 05:21.06 | Chosi | no, Wishlist :P |
| 05:21.09 | doom0r | dunno if that was the directory or something buggrabber/bugsack did |
| 05:21.23 | doom0r | with the version |
| 05:21.27 | Chosi | 2009/01/19 06:10:42-20-x1]: Wishlist-0.5\Wishlist.lua:284: attempt to index local 'item' (a nil value) |
| 05:21.32 | Chosi | nah it's withouth the version |
| 05:21.58 | doom0r | Wishlist-0.5\ |
| 05:22.02 | doom0r | that's why i asked |
| 05:22.06 | Chosi | yeah |
| 05:22.13 | Chosi | but the directory is wishlist |
| 05:22.20 | doom0r | i spent some time looking at it, have no idea |
| 05:22.30 | Chosi | thanks anyways |
| 05:22.37 | doom0r | don't know when that function is being called |
| 05:22.40 | doom0r | could be a few places |
| 05:22.50 | doom0r | have you wiped the SV for wishlist? |
| 05:23.19 | Zhinjio | ckknight: portait "position as bar" setting is not saving between reloads |
| 05:23.22 | Chosi | doing so right now |
| 05:23.50 | Bruners | what is the thing with Fungal Creep on Loatheb? is it x ammount of people that can get it each time ? |
| 05:23.58 | ckknight | Zhinjio: are you up to date? |
| 05:24.13 | Zhinjio | I thought so. I'll check in an hour or so. in the middle of something |
| 05:24.36 | basslingo | Bruners, i think its up to the 5 closest |
| 05:25.00 | Bruners | hmm, our warrior did insane ammounts and got 11 and i got just 8 |
| 05:25.14 | Bruners | http://wowwebstats.com/eihlvlkwz4fjw?m&s=413237-489067 |
| 05:28.29 | gix | according to the spelldata it affects up to 5 targets. but it doesn't feel like it's always the 5 closest. |
| 05:30.21 | RaydenU | maexxna is hard |
| 05:30.33 | Bruners | uhm, no? |
| 05:30.36 | RaydenU | i dunno |
| 05:30.40 | RaydenU | it's taking us forever to kill her |
| 05:30.45 | Chosi | sooo |
| 05:30.48 | Chosi | nobody using pawn? |
| 05:30.53 | RaydenU | maybe 8k dps |
| 05:31.01 | RaydenU | 10 man |
| 05:31.15 | RaydenU | does recount tell you raid dps? |
| 05:31.48 | gix | yes |
| 05:31.56 | quiescens | maexxna is just sometimes annoying during the raid wide stun |
| 05:32.26 | RaydenU | nothing she does is difficult |
| 05:32.27 | gix | RaydenU: in recount's config window, check "Show total bar" under the window tab |
| 05:32.29 | RaydenU | just takes really long |
| 05:32.43 | RaydenU | ah |
| 05:32.47 | RaydenU | yeah 7500 dps last time |
| 05:33.09 | gix | that sounds really low |
| 05:33.19 | gix | i'd to half of that alone |
| 05:33.22 | gix | *do |
| 05:33.43 | Bruners | yep |
| 05:33.45 | RaydenU | this includes the dicking around and killing web wraps |
| 05:33.48 | RaydenU | but yeah, seems low |
| 05:33.56 | RaydenU | 4 people above 1000dps |
| 05:33.57 | basslingo | 7500 dps is like 3 people >.> |
| 05:33.58 | RaydenU | 4 below |
| 05:34.03 | basslingo | ah |
| 05:34.06 | RaydenU | this is our first naxx run |
| 05:34.10 | basslingo | aaaah |
| 05:34.14 | basslingo | howd it go? |
| 05:34.34 | RaydenU | how'd what go? |
| 05:34.34 | quiescens | even if its your first naxx run, you should really be expecting people to do more than 1000 dps |
| 05:34.43 | basslingo | ur first naxx |
| 05:34.49 | Xinhuan | i could do 1500 dps at lvl 60 naxx >.> |
| 05:34.58 | quiescens | even back at 70 you would have wanted people to do 1000 |
| 05:35.20 | quiescens | magical rolling ignites doesn't count |
| 05:35.21 | basslingo | does 1.1k dps as a tank ;) |
| 05:35.21 | Bruners | close to 2k dps on 70 |
| 05:35.39 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 05:35.42 | Chosi | well set bonuses, best enchants on all pieces |
| 05:36.15 | basslingo | we finally got the military wing done in 25 man |
| 05:36.24 | quiescens | you people are setting the bar too high |
| 05:36.25 | basslingo | (please note this is a 54 member guild) |
| 05:36.27 | quiescens | lol |
| 05:37.35 | basslingo | oh, anyone else notice strange issues with plate wearers (at or above def cap) gettin crit real hard?\ |
| 05:38.07 | doom0r | there was discussion of crittable being not totally tru |
| 05:38.16 | Chosi | are there quest which award argent cursade reputation? |
| 05:38.18 | Chosi | dailies? |
| 05:38.21 | Bruners | our dk tank complained about that |
| 05:38.24 | quiescens | its true enough or |
| 05:38.31 | basslingo | doom0r i know there not supposed to |
| 05:38.45 | basslingo | but our war got hit (or crit) for like 59k dmg |
| 05:38.48 | gix | Chosi: argent stand in zul'drak |
| 05:38.50 | quiescens | if it really isn't true its true enough that it could only possibly affect you once in your raiding carreer |
| 05:39.03 | doom0r | ej had some talk of people getting crit while past def cap |
| 05:39.03 | Chosi | ah ok thanks gix |
| 05:39.15 | quiescens | what fight was this 59k? |
| 05:39.20 | quiescens | and do they have logs of it |
| 05:39.24 | basslingo | yes |
| 05:39.28 | basslingo | we have combat logs |
| 05:39.34 | quiescens | so was it a crit or a hit? |
| 05:39.44 | basslingo | he said it was a crit |
| 05:39.46 | quiescens | autoattack or some special? |
| 05:39.51 | quiescens | what fight? |
| 05:40.56 | basslingo | Maexxena |
| 05:41.07 | basslingo | it wasnt a poisen issue either |
| 05:41.12 | basslingo | he pulled and got 1 shot |
| 05:41.29 | RaydenU | 18% |
| 05:41.31 | RaydenU | then i died |
| 05:41.46 | RaydenU | someone called for bloodlust at 38% |
| 05:41.48 | RaydenU | ... |
| 05:41.55 | basslingo | happened today again on Patchwork |
| 05:42.05 | RaydenU | 8000dps |
| 05:43.01 | quiescens | I'd say put the combat log somewhere and report it to blizzard on some forum |
| 05:43.16 | quiescens | I'm not sure maexxna could do 59k even if it was a crit |
| 05:43.21 | theoddone33 | we fail at 3 drake :( |
| 05:43.21 | RaydenU | lowest dps was our two ranged killing the web wrap |
| 05:43.30 | theoddone33 | 16 attempts |
| 05:43.46 | basslingo | he never screenshotted it, but he called it out in vent, I'll get em to screenshot it next time, since it prob will happen again |
| 05:43.56 | quiescens | If it could crit 59k it would be hitting for 30k and I don't recall maexxna being that type of fight |
| 05:44.09 | basslingo | its not |
| 05:44.14 | quiescens | You said someone was running a combat log, I think that should be enough for them |
| 05:44.15 | basslingo | hes bugged or something |
| 05:44.35 | robotusch | only time I can remember being crit, is on the fire elementals in HoL - and that's only due to that silly self-buff they have |
| 05:45.00 | RaydenU | heh |
| 05:45.07 | RaydenU | problem if the tank has #2 dps on Maexxna? |
| 05:45.31 | basslingo | 1 was 2nd threat (druid) and swapped to bear real fast and tanked it the rest |
| 05:45.51 | quiescens | I'd like to say that its a problem if your tank has #2 dps on any fight |
| 05:46.01 | basslingo | lol |
| 05:46.11 | RaydenU | DK was #1, druid tank was #2 |
| 05:46.12 | basslingo | saw dps and read threat -.- gg me |
| 05:46.13 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 9f1219a UnitFrameLayout.lua: [+1 commit] document the layout process. |
| 05:46.32 | quiescens | People that can't outdps the tank on a single target are either making excuses or are outgeared by 50 odd item levels |
| 05:47.10 | basslingo | what threat output was ur druid gettin? |
| 05:47.22 | Bruners | feral druids are overpowered |
| 05:47.24 | RaydenU | that druid was me |
| 05:47.24 | RaydenU | tanking |
| 05:47.28 | basslingo | ok |
| 05:47.32 | basslingo | whats ur armory? |
| 05:47.41 | basslingo | wanna see what ur tankin in :P |
| 05:47.42 | RaydenU | eitrigg, petahoof |
| 05:47.45 | RaydenU | might not be tanking |
| 05:47.45 | basslingo | since im a druid tank too |
| 05:47.51 | basslingo | mk |
| 05:47.56 | taleden | what was your tanking dps rayden? |
| 05:48.01 | RaydenU | yeah it is |
| 05:48.03 | RaydenU | http://armorylite.com/us/Eitrigg/petahoof |
| 05:48.08 | RaydenU | 1304 that last fight |
| 05:48.31 | basslingo | jeez, and just entering naxx? |
| 05:48.40 | RaydenU | as in good or bad? |
| 05:48.43 | basslingo | <--- stuck at 1.1k -.- |
| 05:48.54 | RaydenU | i was about 36k hp raid buffed, and 22k armor |
| 05:48.58 | theoddone33 | do any of the online meter things parse malygos right? |
| 05:49.03 | quiescens | Generally I would say the absolute minimum for DPS classes would be 1000, and you wouldn't be far wrong to expect 1500 to let people raid |
| 05:49.04 | RaydenU | waiting for the rest of the guild to catch up i guess |
| 05:49.10 | RaydenU | first time running naxx and we ran 2 groups |
| 05:49.15 | basslingo | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Turalyon&n=Awal for me |
| 05:49.35 | quiescens | If you think of it from blizzard's point of view, they're expecting people to do 1800 odd before they can kill patchwerk |
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| 05:49.52 | quiescens | so obviously they believe people can average 1800 well before they finish naxx |
| 05:50.05 | ckknight | if anyone hasn't seen The Parlor, it's a good watch: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=479473958902023238 |
| 05:50.12 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 05:50.17 | theoddone33 | the parlor is in my youtube favorites |
| 05:50.22 | RaydenU | parlor is awesome |
| 05:50.27 | basslingo | we've killed patch on 25 for 3 weeks now, its just the war is having some issue with his crap |
| 05:50.33 | Xinhuan | quiescens, top guilds are going 6400 dps ;p |
| 05:50.49 | quiescens | 6400 dps in their first 10man nax run? |
| 05:50.50 | quiescens | wow |
| 05:50.56 | Xinhuan | nah 25man patchwerk |
| 05:50.56 | basslingo | warlock rockin out 9k dps today -.- |
| 05:50.58 | quiescens | stabs xinhuan with a pillow |
| 05:51.04 | taleden | what's a reliable personal dps addon? i don't always trust recount, it seems oddly inconsistent |
| 05:51.05 | RaydenU | what? |
| 05:51.10 | RaydenU | 6400 is low... |
| 05:51.18 | Xinhuan | i was looking at premonition's patchwerk wws today |
| 05:51.19 | theoddone33 | that wws I linked yesterday for patch was 112k raid dps |
| 05:51.20 | basslingo | recount has been abit inconsistant |
| 05:51.21 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 05:51.23 | Xinhuan | a mage has 6400 dps |
| 05:51.23 | RaydenU | 64k? |
| 05:51.27 | RaydenU | oh per person |
| 05:51.28 | quiescens | each, rayden |
| 05:51.29 | Xinhuan | and has similar gear to me |
| 05:51.29 | quiescens | lol |
| 05:51.39 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 05:51.42 | Xinhuan | so i'm obviously doing something wrong with my spell rotation |
| 05:51.50 | theoddone33 | the guy that did 7700 dps wasn't hit capped |
| 05:51.53 | theoddone33 | but he had 2k sp |
| 05:51.58 | Xinhuan | since i'm only doing about 3.6k |
| 05:52.03 | RaydenU | i think some of the people in my guild don't know how to push the extra bit of damage |
| 05:52.06 | theoddone33 | I'm guessing they flask for everything and raid buff effectively |
| 05:52.06 | Xinhuan | well i have 2k sp and hit capped |
| 05:52.10 | quiescens | how do you know they weren't hit capped |
| 05:52.13 | Xinhuan | unbuffed that is |
| 05:52.16 | quiescens | o.O |
| 05:52.16 | theoddone33 | what's your unbuffed crit? |
| 05:52.28 | theoddone33 | every mage in our raid this week did over 4k on patch |
| 05:52.29 | RaydenU | i hit 6200ap for cat today :D |
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| 05:52.33 | Xinhuan | 25% |
| 05:52.37 | theoddone33 | ?! |
| 05:52.39 | Xinhuan | its a bit of a RNG though |
| 05:52.42 | theoddone33 | the secret to that guy doing 7700 |
| 05:52.48 | theoddone33 | was he had embrace of the spider |
| 05:52.53 | Xinhuan | since frostfire bolt spec relies on having back-to-back crits |
| 05:52.55 | theoddone33 | so he was casting at 1.6/1.7 for most of the fight |
| 05:53.03 | theoddone33 | and the numbers are a bit inflated because the fight was so short |
| 05:53.11 | Xinhuan | if you have 50% crit rate, but go crit/hit/crit/hit/crit/hit, that doesn't proc Free pyroblasts |
| 05:53.19 | Xinhuan | but if you get critcritcrit/hithithit |
| 05:53.22 | Xinhuan | you get free pyroblasts |
| 05:53.25 | theoddone33 | also he crit for 61% |
| 05:53.32 | Xinhuan | yes, the avg is 55% |
| 05:53.36 | basslingo | RaydenU, do u know if the tallent that reduces damage by 12% stacks with the 75% reduction cap? |
| 05:53.43 | Xinhuan | my avg is 54% |
| 05:53.50 | Xinhuan | so if you get lucky, you can easily reach 60% |
| 05:53.51 | theoddone33 | I think they seriously min/max their raids |
| 05:53.59 | quiescens | why do you care if anything stacks with the 75% cap? |
| 05:53.59 | RaydenU | basslingo i don't sorry |
| 05:54.00 | theoddone33 | best food, best flasks, best raid buffs, etc |
| 05:54.05 | Xinhuan | and throw in a bit of lucky crits-back-to-back |
| 05:54.20 | Xinhuan | the standard deviation for frostfire bolt spec is about +-15% |
| 05:54.32 | basslingo | RaydenU, np 6200ap cat :) woot i hit 11k ap cat with that finishing move that bumps ap up ;) |
| 05:54.44 | quiescens | at current levels you would need almost 50000 armour to hit the 75% cap |
| 05:54.45 | RaydenU | well what's 6200 * 1.5 |
| 05:54.46 | RaydenU | 1.4 |
| 05:54.49 | quiescens | I don't think anyone is at that point |
| 05:55.04 | theoddone33 | I did over 4k with 45% crit on patch though |
| 05:55.05 | RaydenU | so i hit over 9000ap in raid |
| 05:55.10 | RaydenU | and without any raid gear |
| 05:55.29 | basslingo | quiescens, im at 67% reduction atm, was only wondering if i could remove a point from the tallent |
| 05:55.31 | Chosi | female tauren hunter |
| 05:55.31 | Chosi | lol |
| 05:55.35 | Chosi | i've just seen one. |
| 05:55.50 | theoddone33 | http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/1348003#damageout |
| 05:55.51 | theoddone33 | so yeah |
| 05:55.54 | quiescens | its a different kind of reduction |
| 05:55.57 | theoddone33 | 3.6k is a little low for that amount of SP |
| 05:56.02 | theoddone33 | but it's heavily RNG dependent |
| 05:56.09 | theoddone33 | and raid buff dependent |
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| 05:56.25 | theoddone33 | we had elesham, moonkin, and spriest that raid |
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| 05:56.55 | RaydenU | patchwerk is just gear test? |
| 05:57.04 | theoddone33 | not anymore |
| 05:57.18 | theoddone33 | it's a healer/tank test |
| 05:57.22 | basslingo | yea |
| 05:57.27 | basslingo | healer/tank survival test |
| 05:57.30 | RaydenU | hmm |
| 05:57.32 | RaydenU | oh question |
| 05:57.38 | quiescens | wouldn't the tank portion of that test be a gear test |
| 05:57.38 | quiescens | lol |
| 05:57.41 | RaydenU | for bosses, better to open with pounce or ravage? |
| 05:57.57 | quiescens | pounce will generally do more than ravage |
| 05:57.59 | basslingo | lol yea, the tank part (and healer) is very much a gear test |
| 05:58.01 | RaydenU | ok |
| 05:58.03 | quiescens | but in all probability |
| 05:58.08 | quiescens | you may as well just not bother with stealthing |
| 05:58.14 | quiescens | and get in there 2 seconds earlier |
| 05:58.22 | RaydenU | could always jump |
| 05:58.33 | basslingo | lol kitty charge ftw |
| 05:58.49 | RaydenU | i loved running around the track on anub'rekhan |
| 05:58.51 | basslingo | RaydenU, next patch we get a kitty swipe |
| 05:58.52 | RaydenU | go kitty go! |
| 05:58.55 | RaydenU | i can't wait |
| 05:59.01 | RaydenU | that patch needs to arrive |
| 05:59.19 | Repo | 10vanas-ko-s: 03xilcoy * r330 modules/EventMap.lua: PvP Event Map w/ Cartographer3 enhancements: |
| 05:59.21 | Repo | - Use proper hook for Cartographer3 zoom camera function. |
| 05:59.24 | Repo | - Fixed issue with Cartographer3 that caused icons in certain zones to be tiny |
| 05:59.27 | Repo | - Added option to disable the recently added "dynamic zooming" of icons |
| 05:59.33 | basslingo | AND our Feral Instincts tallent gets a buff (will be based on current max hp) |
| 05:59.46 | basslingo | so if we pop a trinket that increases max hp, that stacks |
| 05:59.49 | RaydenU | yeah |
| 05:59.55 | RaydenU | my tanking stats will go up |
| 05:59.59 | basslingo | yup ;) |
| 06:00.03 | RaydenU | been replacing some of my AC stuff with other stuff |
| 06:00.08 | RaydenU | so i'm down to 22k |
| 06:00.17 | basslingo | u look at my sheet? |
| 06:00.19 | basslingo | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Turalyon&n=Awal |
| 06:00.33 | RaydenU | yeah |
| 06:00.37 | RaydenU | how much AC does that turn into? |
| 06:01.08 | basslingo | like 29k |
| 06:01.17 | basslingo | hold on |
| 06:01.21 | basslingo | let me log in and check |
| 06:01.27 | basslingo | that doesnt sound right |
| 06:01.44 | RaydenU | you only have a tiny amount more |
| 06:01.47 | basslingo | -.- they sooo need to make it where it shows feral stats -.- |
| 06:01.53 | RaydenU | like maybe 100ac |
| 06:02.33 | RaydenU | indeed |
| 06:02.40 | RaydenU | what's your dodge? |
| 06:02.53 | RaydenU | looks like most of your gear is better than mine |
| 06:02.58 | RaydenU | not sure why i have so much more health |
| 06:03.01 | RaydenU | 26k unbuffed |
| 06:03.03 | basslingo | 30ish |
| 06:03.06 | basslingo | for dodge |
| 06:03.08 | RaydenU | a couple rings and stuff i guess |
| 06:03.14 | basslingo | booting up laptop -.- |
| 06:05.10 | RaydenU | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43582 <-- pick that up |
| 06:05.14 | RaydenU | if you can find someone who can make it |
| 06:05.23 | RaydenU | no one had seen it on my server's AH |
| 06:05.34 | RaydenU | but i got a guildie to buy the plan |
| 06:05.40 | basslingo | dang thats nice |
| 06:05.59 | basslingo | need to get that anyway since we are starting Saph next week |
| 06:07.38 | RaydenU | with armor getting nerfed, the sta is uber |
| 06:07.50 | basslingo | ok, self buffed 27,314 armor (64.20% DR) 2112 stam (28.7k hp) 34.70% dodge, (+12$ dmg reduction tallent) |
| 06:07.54 | RaydenU | now i just need to get the drak'tharon |
| 06:07.54 | basslingo | yea |
| 06:08.31 | RaydenU | very similar to me, but 5k more ac |
| 06:08.36 | doom0r | i wish i had +12$ dmg reduction everything i bought something |
| 06:08.45 | basslingo | lol |
| 06:08.51 | basslingo | 12% -.- |
| 06:09.02 | basslingo | bigger keyboard than lappy :/ |
| 06:09.32 | Chosi | yesterday i created 2 noble cards in a row :> |
| 06:09.37 | Chosi | \o/ |
| 06:09.55 | RaydenU | thing is i might be dps in the future |
| 06:10.05 | RaydenU | as i out dps the heck out of our other feral druids |
| 06:10.56 | Chosi | http://u1.ipernity.com/4/66/71/1536671.aca2d25a.l.jpg |
| 06:11.00 | basslingo | the dps helps with threat |
| 06:11.11 | basslingo | im havin issues generating threat atm -.- |
| 06:11.31 | robotusch | Chosi, awww |
| 06:12.19 | Chosi | http://www.indebraendt.dk/images/motivators/whos_awesome02.jpg |
| 06:12.22 | Chosi | that one's better tho |
| 06:12.23 | Chosi | :p |
| 06:12.32 | Bruners | is curse down now? |
| 06:12.48 | theoddone33 | aww, another guild just got horde first 3 drake |
| 06:12.56 | theoddone33 | we put in 16 attempts and didn't get very close ... :( |
| 06:13.05 | robotusch | zomg, Chosi is a DKDK? |
| 06:13.54 | Chosi | WAT |
| 06:14.15 | Chosi | a wut? |
| 06:14.17 | Chosi | :> |
| 06:14.24 | Chosi | deathknight deathknight? |
| 06:14.24 | Chosi | :D |
| 06:15.12 | robotusch | just a .dk |
| 06:15.16 | Chosi | nah |
| 06:15.31 | Chosi | google's fault |
| 06:16.03 | robotusch | http://www.indebraendt.dk/images/BAAAAW/1208883100760.gif oh dear, truly a BAAAAW |
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| 06:16.23 | Chosi | not again |
| 06:16.25 | Chosi | i know this one -.- |
| 06:16.30 | Chosi | : |
| 06:16.33 | Chosi | :'( |
| 06:16.40 | robotusch | :( |
| 06:16.54 | robotusch | sad thing is, it reminds me of my dad :< |
| 06:18.00 | RaydenU | <basslingo> the dps helps with threat <-- i meant i'll probably go cat and they go tank |
| 06:18.12 | basslingo | that too rayden ;) |
| 06:18.20 | RaydenU | another item |
| 06:18.22 | RaydenU | it sounds dumb |
| 06:18.26 | basslingo | i only hit ~950 dps in cat :( |
| 06:18.27 | RaydenU | but the heroic mgt trinket is still uber |
| 06:18.55 | RaydenU | i hit 2100-2200 on ideal fights |
| 06:19.12 | RaydenU | i've also picked up some nice items in the last day or two |
| 06:19.14 | RaydenU | so maybe fighter |
| 06:19.15 | RaydenU | higher |
| 06:19.23 | RaydenU | ok sleepy time |
| 06:19.26 | robotusch | usually number 3 on DPS in most of my groups, except those with primary caster trash |
| 06:19.33 | robotusch | .. yes, I'm talking to you, Oculus! |
| 06:19.39 | RaydenU | oculus sucks |
| 06:19.43 | basslingo | wow, a guildie just had me convert 40 stacks of Borean leather into heavy for him -.- |
| 06:19.43 | robotusch | god I hate that instance |
| 06:19.45 | RaydenU | robotusch as tank? |
| 06:19.48 | robotusch | yeah |
| 06:19.50 | RaydenU | i dps well as tank |
| 06:19.54 | RaydenU | 1300 usually |
| 06:20.01 | robotusch | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Robodin |
| 06:20.23 | RaydenU | hey a paladin |
| 06:20.24 | basslingo | i do better dps in bear form lol |
| 06:20.28 | RaydenU | we can actually see what your stats are |
| 06:20.35 | RaydenU | depending on the fight, bear does more |
| 06:20.38 | robotusch | :P |
| 06:20.41 | RaydenU | hopefully swipe fixes that |
| 06:20.45 | basslingo | yea |
| 06:21.00 | basslingo | gonna go /away needed in game |
| 06:21.07 | RaydenU | i'm going to bed |
| 06:21.09 | RaydenU | night guys |
| 06:21.14 | robotusch | nn |
| 06:21.28 | robotusch | watching cricket, so no sleep until Bangladesh have bowled out Zimbabwe |
| 06:21.41 | robotusch | which the lord knows could take forever |
| 06:21.44 | RaydenU | i need that trinket, essence of gossamer |
| 06:22.01 | robotusch | got quite lucky, it dropped on first trip through AN :D |
| 06:22.12 | RaydenU | 2nd best for me |
| 06:22.18 | RaydenU | first is a damn JC trinket |
| 06:22.26 | robotusch | <3 |
| 06:22.30 | robotusch | that thing is sweeeeet |
| 06:22.38 | RaydenU | what? |
| 06:22.42 | RaydenU | the monarch crab? |
| 06:23.12 | robotusch | yeah, at least it was sweeet when I started out |
| 06:23.21 | robotusch | so much hp packed into a single item |
| 06:23.23 | RaydenU | looks boring |
| 06:23.28 | RaydenU | only 63sta |
| 06:23.32 | RaydenU | but 2 sockets with a 9sta bonus |
| 06:23.38 | RaydenU | essense of gossamer 111sta |
| 06:23.39 | robotusch | yeah |
| 06:23.45 | RaydenU | drools |
| 06:23.58 | robotusch | but 2 JC prismatic stamina gems |
| 06:24.03 | robotusch | .. and away we go |
| 06:24.28 | RaydenU | it's dumb half of the top 10 bear trinkets are JC only |
| 06:24.31 | RaydenU | and they are all blue |
| 06:24.37 | RaydenU | and then after that are two BC trinkets |
| 06:25.01 | RaydenU | 5 out of the top 6 trinkets are blue |
| 06:25.06 | RaydenU | according to emmerald |
| 06:25.10 | robotusch | meh, I need to start hustling my way into some Naxx runs |
| 06:25.36 | RaydenU | the first epic wrath trinket is 16th on the list |
| 06:25.53 | RaydenU | ok |
| 06:25.55 | RaydenU | sleep for realz |
| 06:26.01 | robotusch | nighty-night |
| 06:26.17 | Ackis | Xinhuan: how many achievement points are you at now? |
| 06:26.53 | Xinhuan | 6640 |
| 06:26.57 | robotusch | o_O |
| 06:27.43 | Xinhuan | might break 7000 in 2 months lol |
| 06:27.43 | robotusch | our realm topper just passed 7000 |
| 06:27.59 | Xinhuan | if i were good at arena, i might be at 6800 now, but i'm not |
| 06:28.04 | robotusch | lol, he finally managed Battlemaster |
| 06:28.10 | robotusch | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Nelle |
| 06:28.22 | Xinhuan | i need like 80 wins of every BG >.> |
| 06:28.27 | robotusch | yeah |
| 06:28.28 | Xinhuan | but i completed sota 100 wins yesterday |
| 06:28.49 | robotusch | would be nice if they could re-add the old "Turn in BG marks for rep" |
| 06:28.49 | quiescens | crazy |
| 06:29.01 | Xinhuan | they should just credit me my 100 BGs |
| 06:29.08 | Xinhuan | cos i'm rank 14 >.> |
| 06:29.31 | robotusch | :O |
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| 06:31.23 | Xinhuan | 50% win rate in eots, avg 20 min games, = 52 hours needed for 80 wins |
| 06:31.31 | Xinhuan | QQ |
| 06:31.58 | doom0r | 50% win rate in eots, avg 20 min games = addiction needed for 80 wins& |
| 06:32.10 | doom0r | s/&/*/ |
| 06:32.17 | Xinhuan | i actually just stand at a flag point, mage tower for eg |
| 06:32.27 | Repo | 10grid: 03kunda * r1140 GridLocale-deDE.lua: deDE update |
| 06:32.34 | Xinhuan | alt-tab to my 2nd monitor and continue to port Postal to ace3 |
| 06:32.42 | robotusch | :D |
| 06:33.01 | quiescens | I should do something like that |
| 06:33.07 | Xinhuan | everything's been pretty trivial to port |
| 06:33.15 | Xinhuan | except porting dewdrop -> UIDropdownMenu |
| 06:35.11 | taleden | i'm not looking forward to doing that :X |
| 06:36.14 | quiescens | mm |
| 06:36.21 | Xinhuan | its not too difficult |
| 06:36.29 | Xinhuan | except that sliders and editboxes aren't doable |
| 06:36.31 | quiescens | I don't think we would win without people attempting to fight though |
| 06:36.44 | Xinhuan | so you make do with staticpopup text entries for those |
| 06:36.48 | taleden | does it still have that taint problem if you use too many items in a menu? |
| 06:37.04 | Xinhuan | yes but 3.0.8 fixes that |
| 06:37.05 | Xinhuan | so |
| 06:37.08 | Xinhuan | i waited |
| 06:37.13 | taleden | nod |
| 06:37.28 | taleden | speaking of sliders, are there any plans to make mousewheel work for sliders in aceconfigdialog? |
| 06:37.33 | taleden | i liked that a lot in dewdrop |
| 06:37.40 | Xinhuan | no |
| 06:38.01 | Xinhuan | because when mouse scrolling configs, you tend to scroll sliders accidentally more often than not |
| 06:38.09 | Xinhuan | if you need, you can click the number and just type in |
| 06:38.34 | taleden | i guess, i really did find wheelable sliders nice tho |
| 06:38.40 | Arrowmaster | click number then mousewheel? |
| 06:38.50 | taleden | should at least be an optional setting in the options table def, imho |
| 06:38.52 | Arrowmaster | is that acceptable? |
| 06:39.08 | taleden | mousewheel already gets hung up on multiline boxes if there are any *shrug* |
| 06:39.17 | Codayus | Hmm, I didn't realize you could click the number. That goes a fair way to make up for the lack of mousewheel support, which was really bugging me too. |
| 06:39.36 | Xinhuan | yes taleden, but that doesn't actively make changes |
| 06:39.47 | doom0r | that's because the text box's background color isn't distinguisable |
| 06:39.51 | doom0r | that should be addressed |
| 06:39.58 | Xinhuan | whereas i could be looking at the top part of a config, mousewheel scroll to scroll to see the bottom half, and a slider pops under my mouse and gets scrolled |
| 06:40.14 | Xinhuan | that was a big issue in rockconfig |
| 06:40.32 | taleden | what about hooking mouse movement somehow, so it checks if you're hoving over a scroll when you stop moving the cursor |
| 06:40.35 | Xinhuan | which was partially fixed by having some mousein-out timers |
| 06:40.47 | taleden | then when you start mousewheeling, if a scroll comes under teh cursor it doesn't catch the wheel, because the cursor last stopped elsewhere |
| 06:41.01 | Xinhuan | it does |
| 06:41.17 | Xinhuan | mousewheel counts as whatever is under the mouse |
| 06:41.39 | Xinhuan | if it didn't it wouldn't have been a problem |
| 06:41.54 | taleden | right, but i'm saying, give sliders some logic when they see a mousewheel event |
| 06:42.00 | Codayus | Hm, oddly, I never had that issue with rockconfig. Thinking about it, I think I've been trained by other applications/UI widgets in the past... |
| 06:42.33 | taleden | so that if the user last moved the cursor (actual mouse move, not wheel) to a point not on top of a slider, then any slider that comes under teh cursor as a result of scrolling still ignores the wheel |
| 06:42.46 | taleden | only if a mouse movement puts the cursor on a slider does that slider catch the wheel |
| 06:43.01 | taleden | so if you start scrolling the container, you can keep doing so over any sliders you want so long as you don't move the cursor in the middle |
| 06:43.03 | Xinhuan | yes yes, but that's a lot of extra coding that is counter intuitive |
| 06:43.13 | Xinhuan | and you start adding dozens of timers |
| 06:43.16 | Xinhuan | for a page with a few sliders |
| 06:43.23 | taleden | I don't think it needs timers |
| 06:43.26 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-1: 037destiny * r22 LibStatLogic-1.1/LibStatLogic-1.1.lua: - koKR Update |
| 06:43.35 | taleden | or is there no event at all for mouse cursor movement |
| 06:43.43 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 06:43.45 | Xinhuan | tere is no event for mouse cursor movement |
| 06:43.48 | taleden | durn |
| 06:43.54 | Xinhuan | there is only OnEnter/Leave |
| 06:44.13 | Arrowmaster | events for mouse movement are evil |
| 06:44.15 | taleden | and those trigger if a frame moves under the mouse, without the mouse moving? |
| 06:44.21 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 06:44.24 | taleden | hm |
| 06:44.37 | taleden | alright, i guess that is not easily solved :X |
| 06:44.44 | taleden | pity though, i really did like mousewheeling sliders :/ |
| 06:45.03 | Xinhuan | however, wow can tell the difference whether it the mouse moved over the frame, or a frame was mvoed under the mouse (3rd arg) |
| 06:45.09 | Xinhuan | or was it 2nd arg |
| 06:45.19 | Xinhuan | that was used as a basis in rock config |
| 06:45.24 | Xinhuan | for the in/out timers |
| 06:45.27 | taleden | that didn't solve it? |
| 06:45.36 | Arrowmaster | have heard the story about the income tax software for dos that died with win3.1/win95 because it was so buggy they never released a stable version with a gui that supported a mouse |
| 06:45.38 | taleden | to just have onenter set the wheel handler only if that arg says it was mouse movement? |
| 06:45.40 | Xinhuan | not really, since a frame might be scrolling or not scrolling |
| 06:45.46 | Xinhuan | depending on its container size |
| 06:45.55 | Arrowmaster | one of the many bugs was that it had spikey network usage when moving the mouse |
| 06:47.11 | Arrowmaster | because somebody coding the input validation into an on mouse movement event to get the same effect as moving between input areas on a mouseless gui |
| 06:48.09 | Xinhuan | but yeah, if you want precise numbers, just click in the box on the number and type it in |
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| 06:49.49 | Groktard | puts a screenshot for his 1400 arena rating in his pvp video |
| 06:49.58 | quiescens | grats |
| 06:51.13 | Xinhuan | makes coffee |
| 06:51.30 | Arrowmaster | wtf, people are playing uno on irc with a bot in another channel im on on a different network |
| 06:51.51 | Arrowmaster | fucking uno |
| 06:52.28 | quiescens | skip |
| 06:52.37 | doom0r | i know, it's crazy, i hear there's people that give support for windows in irc channels out there |
| 06:52.40 | Chosi | 7 |
| 06:54.01 | Xinhuan | posts like these make me want to kill myself http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=262409#post262409 |
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| 06:56.15 | Arrowmaster | just lock it and tell the person to gtfo |
| 06:56.23 | Arrowmaster | wowace doesnt have zip uploads for projects |
| 06:56.48 | *** part/#wowace pompy (n=Pomp@c-71-58-3-50.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 06:56.55 | Arrowmaster | oh and the error name is in the thread title |
| 06:58.06 | quiescens | killing yourself is bad for your health |
| 06:58.11 | Xinhuan | that's actually curseforge forums i believe |
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| 06:58.26 | Arrowmaster | cant be |
| 06:58.46 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 06:58.56 | Arrowmaster | why is that accessable from wowace but cant be found |
| 06:59.04 | Xinhuan | because belazor hacked it |
| 06:59.10 | Xinhuan | so that 2 domains use the same forum base |
| 06:59.23 | Arrowmaster | why are you linking it from wowace then |
| 06:59.31 | Xinhuan | http://forums.curseforge.com/showthread.php?t=15640 |
| 06:59.34 | Xinhuan | same thread |
| 06:59.45 | Xinhuan | because i use "view unread posts" |
| 06:59.53 | Xinhuan | and it shows all unread posts from both sides |
| 06:59.54 | rapidgame | haha, so it's because he didnt zip the root folder for the addon right? |
| 07:00.29 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 07:00.31 | doom0r | A Really simple yet Useful Addon for PvP such As ArathiBasin. |
| 07:00.43 | doom0r | takes the camel back |
| 07:01.43 | Xinhuan | you are correct rapidgame |
| 07:01.46 | Xinhuan | i checked his zip |
| 07:02.02 | Xinhuan | it contains 3 files: Incoming.toc BasinCry.lua BasinCryForm.xml |
| 07:02.04 | rapidgame | well, haha Xinhuan, i made the same mistake and couldn't figure out what was wrong with it until i downloaded the zip and tried to install it lol (dumb me) - but yeah, i noticed that it's mentioned in the KB too |
| 07:02.08 | Torhal | That forum hack needs to be fixed. |
| 07:02.28 | rapidgame | is anyone able to edit the KB? |
| 07:02.35 | Torhal | I almost said something to the effect that he's an idiot because there's no way he could have uploaded a zip, then realized there's still bleedover between the forums |
| 07:02.39 | Zhinjio | bee bop a loo bop |
| 07:03.07 | Torhal | Zhinjio: You don't say.. |
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| 07:03.47 | Torhal | Anywho, I'm to bed. |
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| 07:04.19 | rapidgame | Xinhuan: do you need special permission to modify the KB? |
| 07:04.29 | quiescens | a wizard did it |
| 07:04.51 | Bruners | Xinhuan: since you where talking about it, got much left on postal? |
| 07:04.56 | Xinhuan | i can do it rapidgame |
| 07:05.14 | rapidgame | Xinhuan: it's already there, i was just going to make it a bit more obvious lol |
| 07:05.18 | Xinhuan | got the config menus left Bruners |
| 07:05.35 | Xinhuan | i'm just lazy |
| 07:05.39 | rapidgame | Xinhuan: whats happening to Postal? |
| 07:05.49 | Xinhuan | i'm converting it to ace3 |
| 07:05.53 | Xinhuan | which makes it leaner |
| 07:06.14 | Xinhuan | and removing some old code |
| 07:06.23 | Xinhuan | for eg, i removed the shift-click to open mail code |
| 07:06.28 | Xinhuan | since that's default UI now |
| 07:06.31 | rapidgame | oh, so just background sorta stuff? |
| 07:06.38 | Xinhuan | pretty much |
| 07:06.42 | Xinhuan | but settings won't carry over |
| 07:06.56 | Xinhuan | unless i write something to import ace2db settings into ace3db |
| 07:07.10 | rapidgame | well, postals pretty mint haha - use it everyday with my AH alts |
| 07:07.19 | Bruners | not that much settings to setup |
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| 07:07.43 | quiescens | optimise the opening of mail etc |
| 07:07.44 | quiescens | lol |
| 07:07.45 | rapidgame | Bruners: yeah |
| 07:07.45 | ckknight | as much as people are nostalgic for 1950's-esque America, I think I prefer the modern day, the women are looser nowadays |
| 07:08.03 | rapidgame | ckknight: but where's the "class" gone |
| 07:08.15 | ckknight | fuck class |
| 07:08.19 | ckknight | I'd rather have pussy |
| 07:09.05 | rapidgame | ckknight: haha, fair enough - if thats what matters to you ;-) |
| 07:09.18 | ckknight | what is class, anyway? |
| 07:09.18 | Chosi | he'd rather have A pussy |
| 07:09.27 | Chosi | cause he wouldn't have to care about size then |
| 07:09.28 | Chosi | ;D |
| 07:09.30 | ckknight | but a mere flaunting of wealth? |
| 07:09.54 | rapidgame | ckknight: well, you've got me there haha |
| 07:10.05 | rapidgame | you know what i mean haha |
| 07:10.14 | ckknight | and if one has wealth, does class matter? |
| 07:10.16 | Bruners | pussys come in sizes aswell |
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| 07:10.46 | Chosi | well yeah |
| 07:10.50 | Chosi | but not in length |
| 07:10.52 | Chosi | :) |
| 07:10.59 | Bruners | depends how you see it |
| 07:11.03 | Chosi | well... |
| 07:11.03 | Chosi | -.- |
| 07:11.15 | Bruners | average is about 10cm deep |
| 07:11.23 | doom0r | ckknight: just cause you don't see how it was, doesn't mean women were any more difficult to get into bed back then |
| 07:11.24 | rapidgame | ckknight: hmm, well class was the wrong word - i'll look it up in the theasaurus - whats the IRC purl command? |
| 07:11.31 | doom0r | it just wasn't advertised everywhere |
| 07:11.33 | rapidgame | ~dictionary class |
| 07:12.26 | purl | see dict class |
| 07:12.26 | rapidgame | nope |
| 07:12.27 | ckknight | doom0r: I suppose, but it seems pretty easy in modern times |
| 07:12.27 | ckknight | ~dict class |
| 07:12.27 | amoeba | ~dictionary It's a good thing this is just a channel full of guys. |
| 07:12.28 | purl | see dict It's a good thing this is just a channel full of guys. |
| 07:12.28 | ckknight | meh |
| 07:12.28 | ckknight | amoeba: there's some females about |
| 07:12.28 | amoeba | Lies. |
| 07:12.32 | Repo | 10mtarget: 03gameldar * r12 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 07:12.35 | Repo | - Changed the broadcast comms to use AceSerializer (and added dependencies) |
| 07:12.36 | ckknight | lol |
| 07:12.37 | Repo | - Changed the way the minimap button menu items are generated and displayed |
| 07:12.39 | Repo | - allowed broadcasting a single variable by name |
| 07:12.40 | amoeba | Go purl go. |
| 07:12.41 | Repo | - added a new function (and auto-update options) to update the variables where a valid unitid exists. |
| 07:12.41 | rapidgame | wow, lag much purl? |
| 07:13.17 | rapidgame | elegance! |
| 07:13.36 | amoeba | Holy shit. My middle school math teacher just added me as a friend on Facebook. Singlemost creepy thing to happen to me in my entire life. |
| 07:13.40 | ckknight | dammit, I've run out of alcohol |
| 07:13.47 | amoeba | drinks for ckknight |
| 07:14.00 | ckknight | I could really go for one more beer |
| 07:14.10 | amoeba | I have five more in the fridged. |
| 07:14.12 | quiescens | just the one |
| 07:14.13 | doom0r | hands ckknight the bottle of everclear sitting in his armour |
| 07:14.17 | amoeba | That's now how you spell fridge. |
| 07:14.26 | amoeba | That's not how you spell now. |
| 07:14.33 | ckknight | here's a fucked up issue |
| 07:14.35 | amoeba | gives up |
| 07:14.38 | rapidgame | ckknight: got some bourban and JD |
| 07:14.38 | ckknight | my driver's license is fading |
| 07:14.49 | ckknight | so it's getting harder and harder to see my face |
| 07:14.56 | amoeba | IRL or on your ID? |
| 07:15.02 | Chosi | ;D |
| 07:15.08 | ckknight | amoeba: ID |
| 07:15.14 | amoeba | *instantrimshot |
| 07:15.42 | ckknight | da-dum-ching |
| 07:15.48 | amoeba | That's what she said. |
| 07:16.06 | amoeba | I look different than I do on my ID and the person checking the ID usually double-takes. |
| 07:16.16 | amoeba | Of course, I never get carded so it's not an issue. |
| 07:16.26 | ckknight | so I need to go and get a driver's license of this state sometime soon |
| 07:16.30 | Chosi | maybe you should have taken another photo after the surgery |
| 07:16.33 | ckknight | but that's lame. |
| 07:16.38 | amoeba | What state? |
| 07:16.39 | ckknight | cause I gotta go to the courthouse and shit |
| 07:16.40 | ckknight | bah |
| 07:16.54 | ckknight | amoeba: Alabama; I have a Hawaii Driver's License currently |
| 07:17.03 | amoeba | Alabama?!!? |
| 07:17.10 | Bruners | sweet home alabama |
| 07:17.14 | ckknight | I'll likely keep using it until they stop giving me alcohol with my shitty driver's license |
| 07:17.15 | Bruners | sings |
| 07:17.27 | amoeba | Get an ID in a real state. |
| 07:17.30 | ckknight | amoeba: yea, I live where NASA is, so it's not a hick town |
| 07:17.31 | Chosi | http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/McLovin-Driver-s-License-superbad-641196_417_266.jpg |
| 07:17.32 | Chosi | that one |
| 07:17.33 | Chosi | ;D |
| 07:17.55 | ckknight | Chosi: my last long-term girlfriend said I was like a real-life McLovin |
| 07:18.24 | doom0r | cheap fuck? |
| 07:18.25 | Chosi | i don't think that's a compliment |
| 07:18.26 | doom0r | ;x |
| 07:19.12 | ckknight | Chosi: arbitrary |
| 07:19.18 | ckknight | Chosi: she was alright in bed |
| 07:19.30 | ckknight | okay, I need to go to bed |
| 07:19.40 | ckknight | so that I can do the DB transition tomorrow |
| 07:19.40 | Chosi | ;) |
| 07:19.50 | ckknight | and not mess up |
| 07:19.52 | ckknight | here's hoping |
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| 07:22.38 | rapidgame | why can't i find my addon when searching on curse lol? |
| 07:23.08 | quiescens | mm |
| 07:23.11 | doom0r | cause the curse folks never fix the damn search? |
| 07:23.25 | quiescens | my buff bars are having a strange problem with its tracking display |
| 07:23.27 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 07:23.32 | Xinhuan | its stil fubared |
| 07:24.16 | rapidgame | do they have an ETA? |
| 07:24.21 | rapidgame | for a fix... |
| 07:24.41 | Bruners | curse should add some new categories |
| 07:24.59 | doom0r | SOON |
| 07:25.10 | doom0r | ;x |
| 07:25.47 | rapidgame | lol, soon really mean "sometime in the future" |
| 07:26.14 | doom0r | hopefully |
| 07:26.30 | doom0r | it is quite awful atm |
| 07:26.44 | ckknight | I was unable to sleep |
| 07:26.45 | ckknight | Bruners: I can add categories |
| 07:27.16 | rapidgame | ckknight: lol, you should try harder than that, wasn't even 10 minutes. |
| 07:27.20 | Bruners | ckknight: Info/Plug-in Bars |
| 07:27.21 | quiescens | you were unable to sleep in like, 5 minutes? |
| 07:27.37 | Bruners | ckknight: like this http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=109 |
| 07:27.42 | ckknight | quiescens: I woke up 12 hours ago |
| 07:27.46 | rapidgame | ckknight: fix the search while you're at it |
| 07:27.57 | ckknight | rapidgame: I don't do that |
| 07:28.00 | Bruners | search is ok if you use the correct one |
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| 07:28.15 | ckknight | Bruners: hmm |
| 07:28.26 | doom0r | Bruners: no |
| 07:28.31 | rapidgame | Bruners: what's the "correct" one? |
| 07:28.48 | doom0r | you still don't get results that are known to exist by a landslide |
| 07:28.56 | ckknight | Bruners: Info/Plugin Bars seems bad, though, cause they could exist without bars |
| 07:29.09 | rapidgame | like my POS - http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/pillager.aspx |
| 07:29.14 | doom0r | Data Feeds |
| 07:29.26 | doom0r | Data Feeds\Displays |
| 07:29.32 | doom0r | etc |
| 07:29.37 | Bruners | the Find an addon search is the correct one |
| 07:29.40 | ckknight | Info Displays might be good |
| 07:29.45 | ckknight | someone file a ticket |
| 07:29.50 | ckknight | I have had too much to drink to |
| 07:29.52 | ckknight | too* |
| 07:29.56 | ckknight | wait |
| 07:29.57 | ckknight | no |
| 07:30.03 | ckknight | I was right the first time |
| 07:30.14 | rapidgame | Bruners: lol you're kidding right? |
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| 07:31.27 | rapidgame | try finding my addon through "Find an Addon" |
| 07:32.27 | ckknight | I don't talk while having sex, it feels wrong to |
| 07:32.44 | rapidgame | ckknight: WTF? |
| 07:33.11 | ckknight | I'm watching The Notebook |
| 07:33.25 | rapidgame | good god no... |
| 07:33.30 | Bruners | rapidgame: my guess is that the search db isnt synced yet |
| 07:33.50 | rapidgame | Bruners: Takes a while to sync lol, couple o' days? |
| 07:33.50 | ckknight | I liked it the first time |
| 07:34.12 | Bruners | rapidgame: no idea how often/how its done |
| 07:34.17 | ckknight | watching it again, initial sex scene, she goes on about how he's quiet |
| 07:34.23 | ckknight | and I'm like, hey, I'm quiet too |
| 07:34.40 | rapidgame | ckknight: you know the search updating period by any change? |
| 07:35.01 | ckknight | no |
| 07:35.05 | ckknight | I don't deal with curse.com |
| 07:35.08 | ckknight | I just give them data |
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| 07:35.27 | rapidgame | ckknight: kk |
| 07:36.14 | ckknight | goddammit |
| 07:36.18 | ckknight | and my buzz is gone |
| 07:36.24 | ckknight | this is why I needed one more beer |
| 07:37.30 | mykx | I always need one more, then end up taking one too many |
| 07:39.36 | ckknight | I break it down into a mathematical formula |
| 07:39.46 | ckknight | for the time, I should've had one more beer |
| 07:39.53 | ckknight | and 40 minutes later, I could have another |
| 07:39.59 | ckknight | and then I would sleep |
| 07:40.31 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r360 pet.lua: Fix a bug reported by Zidomo |
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| 07:40.58 | rapidgame | ckknight: haha i know the feeling, but mykx is right |
| 07:41.09 | doom0r | while (1 + 1) != 3 then do consume(availablealchtype) |
| 07:41.12 | rapidgame | how ever, by that stage you don't care how many you've had |
| 07:41.14 | ckknight | math is key! |
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| 07:47.35 | pompy | is there a way to have the xp gains text not show up? |
| 07:47.49 | Xinhuan | no |
| 07:51.26 | Bruners | what is the other wws page ? |
| 07:51.29 | Bruners | wws-like |
| 07:57.01 | nuoHep | www.wowmeteronline.com |
| 07:57.23 | Zhinjio | ckknight: I have the latest version. portrait position as bar is not saving. |
| 07:57.25 | Zhinjio | er, hmm. |
| 07:57.30 | Zhinjio | lemme test one more time. |
| 07:57.48 | nevcairiel | morning |
| 07:57.55 | Zhinjio | hey nev |
| 07:58.55 | Zhinjio | ckknight: verified. position as bar is remaining "on" for portrait. |
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| 08:17.53 | Xinhuan | @project broker_mail |
| 08:17.55 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker_mail/. Broker_Mail. Game: WoW. Status: Out of date. Imported from wowace SVN project Broker_Mail. andreasg (Manager/Author). Updated: 44 days ago. Tickets: 1/1 |
| 08:19.57 | Xinhuan | "i'd like to suggest data broker support so i don't have to run Broker_Mail anymore" - posted on Postal thread |
| 08:20.07 | Xinhuan | i don't see any link between postal and broker_mail :o |
| 08:20.44 | rapidgame | it's impossible to create local/temporary frames right? |
| 08:20.48 | ckknight | so who else thinks that cowgirl position is demeaning towards men? |
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| 08:21.07 | rapidgame | ckknight: ... |
| 08:21.37 | rapidgame | what time is it in Alabama ck? (that where you're living?) |
| 08:21.48 | amoeba | Hoe-down time. |
| 08:21.52 | ckknight | 2:21 AM |
| 08:21.52 | rapidgame | lol |
| 08:22.10 | rapidgame | late night for you haha |
| 08:22.12 | Zhinjio | should I ticket that, ck? |
| 08:22.14 | ckknight | amoeba: I already told you I don't live in a hick town. This place is populated by engineers |
| 08:22.17 | ckknight | Zhinjio: yea |
| 08:22.19 | Zhinjio | k |
| 08:22.25 | amoeba | I never saw such a message. |
| 08:22.52 | rapidgame | i was about to say, wtf does he need to ticket cowgirl position for... then i read up haha |
| 08:23.13 | amoeba | I only make fun because I have absolutely no idea what Alabama is like. |
| 08:23.15 | ckknight | amoeba: I'm where NASA is |
| 08:23.16 | Zhinjio | done |
| 08:23.23 | rapidgame | but, it's correc that an temporary or local frame is impossible? |
| 08:23.38 | rapidgame | s/correc/correct/ |
| 08:23.50 | rapidgame | fucking "an" |
| 08:23.56 | amoeba | rapidgame: local f = CreateFrame kind of local/temporary? |
| 08:24.29 | rapidgame | hmm, i asked that question wrong haha - but once you make a frame it's there till the UI reloads? |
| 08:24.33 | ckknight | amoeba: you have a military-industrial complex surrounded by bio-engineering facilities, then Curse's dev site is in there for some reason |
| 08:24.42 | amoeba | ckknight: Nice, hah |
| 08:25.13 | amoeba | rapidgame, I've never tested but my limited wisdom tells me it'd be gone |
| 08:25.15 | ckknight | Ashton Kutcher built a theater here. You can order drinks there |
| 08:26.20 | rapidgame | amoeba: so it's not smart to create a frame in a function that is called frequently? or is that perfectly fine? |
| 08:26.33 | amoeba | It's probably horrible, rapidgame. |
| 08:27.39 | rapidgame | amoeba: yeah, i'll avoid it then haha |
| 08:28.05 | ckknight | rapidgame: wth, don't do that |
| 08:28.09 | amoeba | ^^ |
| 08:28.13 | amoeba | Said it better. |
| 08:29.01 | ckknight | I try not to even create tables in repeatedly called functions |
| 08:29.08 | ckknight | frames are far more expensive |
| 08:29.31 | amoeba | ckknight: Do you know how much more expensive they are than, say, a by-index table lookup? |
| 08:29.47 | rapidgame | ckknight: yeah, thats what I was think haha - just making sure i was correct |
| 08:29.49 | ckknight | making frames? |
| 08:29.52 | amoeba | Yearp |
| 08:30.04 | ckknight | imagine air |
| 08:30.08 | ckknight | imagine a brick of gold |
| 08:30.09 | amoeba | draems |
| 08:30.11 | ckknight | compare them |
| 08:30.20 | rapidgame | ffs haha |
| 08:30.26 | amoeba | So I need by-index table lookups to live? |
| 08:30.32 | ckknight | ...yes |
| 08:30.34 | amoeba | And if I love someone I give them frames? |
| 08:30.50 | ckknight | either that or herpes |
| 08:30.55 | amoeba | I think I understand WoW UI scripting completely now! |
| 08:31.33 | rapidgame | yeah, that works lol |
| 08:36.32 | vangual__ | oO |
| 08:37.25 | rapidgame | whats up with the 500 server errors on wowace? |
| 08:37.59 | Aeyan | Recovering from an attack |
| 08:38.06 | Aeyan | Will be up and down till tomorrow |
| 08:38.11 | amoeba | It's web 3.0 |
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| 08:40.04 | rapidgame | hackers? |
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| 08:44.23 | ckknight | old people sex is like zombie sex, it's pretty disgusting ... until you're a zombie |
| 08:45.13 | rapidgame | ckknight: do you eat their brains? |
| 08:48.35 | Repo | 10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio * r60 Broker_HitCrit.lua: - fix localization capitalization shit |
| 08:50.10 | Repo | 10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio 042.7.2-release * r61 : Tagging as 2.7.2-release |
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| 08:57.17 | Zhinjio | can someone please confirm that GetSpellinfo and GetItemInfo return locallized names? |
| 08:57.48 | Zhinjio | just do /dump GetSpellInfo(45357) |
| 08:57.51 | Zhinjio | or something |
| 08:58.01 | Zhinjio | and tell me if the first argument is in enUS or localized to your local language |
| 08:59.08 | Repo | 10addon-loader: 03Ammo * r74 Conditions.lua: |
| 08:59.10 | Repo | add support for subzones in X-LoadOn-Zone, here you go tekkub. |
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| 09:04.07 | Xinhuan | hmm does the default ui have... nvm i'll look for it lol |
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| 09:07.40 | nevcairiel | Zhinjio, nothing in the UI responds with english names, unless its filenames, like 2nd return of UnitClass |
| 09:08.18 | rapidgame | Xinhuan: could you (or anyone) have a look @ this code, http://www.wowace.com/paste/168/ - there are two methods for calculating the repair cost for equipped items, both seem to work in WoW, i prefer method one but for some reason I see a lot of other coders use method 2, not too sure why. Which is better? |
| 09:09.14 | Xinhuan | whats with the |
| 09:09.15 | Xinhuan | value = math.floor((0 - value)+.5) |
| 09:09.34 | Mackatack | Is there any way to loop through all lootslots and detect wether a slot holds master loot or regular loot? |
| 09:10.04 | rapidgame | Xinhuan: haha, yeah I can remove that |
| 09:10.44 | Xinhuan | did you just attempt to name a function Pillager:DurabilityTooltip() |
| 09:10.55 | Xinhuan | then proceed to overwrite that function with self.DurabilityTooltip |
| 09:10.57 | Xinhuan | a tooltip |
| 09:11.37 | Zhinjio | nevcairiel: thanks |
| 09:12.14 | rapidgame | Xinhuan: but looking at the different methods, i think the only difference is one creates a new frame and sets it to a durabilitytooltip outside the function, however the other uses the existing durabilitytooltip from the game |
| 09:12.21 | rapidgame | Xinhuan: that's possible haha |
| 09:12.36 | rapidgame | Xinhuan: me = noob coder |
| 09:12.46 | Xinhuan | DurabilityTooltip doesn't exist in default UI |
| 09:12.53 | Xinhuan | so i am not sure what you are talking about |
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| 09:13.25 | rapidgame | okay haha |
| 09:13.36 | Xinhuan | both methods look identical to me, and in either case, you need to create the tooltip |
| 09:14.01 | rapidgame | Method one uses DurabilityTooltip:ClearLines() without doing a createframe, does that matter? |
| 09:14.18 | Xinhuan | not really |
| 09:14.30 | Xinhuan | your frame must already exist |
| 09:14.47 | Xinhuan | that is, somewhere else in your addon, you must have created a DurabilityTooltip |
| 09:15.50 | rapidgame | okay, thanks - i was basing method one off some other code so they must've created it on xml |
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| 09:19.24 | rapidgame | instead of creating the tooltip outside the function can i add: if (not DurabilityTooltip) then local tooltip = CreateFrame("GameTooltip", "DurabilityTooltip", nil, "GameTooltipTemplate"); end |
| 09:19.36 | rapidgame | or is that not recommended/messy? |
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| 09:20.40 | Xinhuan | your suggested code is fine |
| 09:21.27 | Arrowmaster | what info are you getting from that tooltip? |
| 09:21.29 | rapidgame | cool :-) i like to check these things so i don't do silly things like call a function by the same name as a frame haha |
| 09:22.04 | Xinhuan | he isn't getting any info from the tooltip, he's getting info from the :SetInventoryItem() call (return values) |
| 09:22.56 | Arrowmaster | oh, well if thats a blizzard frame name that doesnt always exist, i wouldnt recommend reusing it like that |
| 09:23.20 | Arrowmaster | otherwise the name is still less than desirable |
| 09:23.33 | rapidgame | what name do you suggest? |
| 09:23.41 | rapidgame | Addon_Durability? |
| 09:23.42 | Arrowmaster | something unique to your addon |
| 09:23.44 | rapidgame | kk |
| 09:24.28 | Arrowmaster | if you are just using the returns from tooltip:SetInventoryItem() you dont even need the "GameTooltipTemplate" part and without that you dont even need to name it |
| 09:25.32 | rapidgame | cool :-) thanks! |
| 09:26.06 | rapidgame | do i still need to :SetOwner? |
| 09:26.18 | Arrowmaster | once i think |
| 09:26.34 | Arrowmaster | as long as you dont call :Hide() on it |
| 09:28.10 | Arrowmaster | now i cant even remember what i have that uses a hidden tooltip like that to check it |
| 09:28.21 | rapidgame | so i do need to SetOwner once if i don't call Hide on it? |
| 09:28.28 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 09:28.41 | Arrowmaster | if you hide it then it clears the SetOwner stuff |
| 09:29.10 | Arrowmaster | but as a hidden tooltip anyway you have no need to hide it |
| 09:29.59 | Arrowmaster | wowwiki has more on tooltip usage but its a little cryptic and maybe outdated |
| 09:30.13 | rapidgame | cool, here's my final code for it - http://www.wowace.com/paste/169/ |
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| 09:30.45 | nevcairiel | that won't work |
| 09:31.01 | rapidgame | *sigh* lol |
| 09:31.16 | nevcairiel | you're mixing local vars with member vars |
| 09:31.25 | nevcairiel | like you use self.Pillager_DurabilityTooltip sometimes |
| 09:31.25 | Arrowmaster | if (not Pillager_DurabilityTooltip) then |
| 09:31.26 | Arrowmaster | to |
| 09:31.30 | rapidgame | shite, that the self. etc |
| 09:31.31 | Arrowmaster | if (not self.Pillager_DurabilityTooltip) then |
| 09:31.43 | rapidgame | cool |
| 09:31.57 | nevcairiel | line after that too |
| 09:32.00 | nevcairiel | remove the local |
| 09:32.02 | nevcairiel | and add a self |
| 09:32.22 | rapidgame | Doh! I see it now haha |
| 09:32.31 | Arrowmaster | for the :SetOwner() do :SetOwner(UIParent, "ANCHOR_NONE") i think |
| 09:32.33 | Repo | 10scorchio2: 03ennuilg * r8 / (3 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 3 lines) |
| 09:32.36 | Repo | - Added Polymorph tracking |
| 09:32.38 | Repo | - Added options to disable warnings and notifications of spell expiration |
| 09:32.40 | Repo | - Added option to run bars from Right to Left |
| 09:32.43 | Repo | - Fixed a logic order error which caused timers for spells marked as "unique" to lose their timers |
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| 09:33.33 | Repo | 10scorchio2: 03ennuilg 04v0.9 beta 4 * r9 : Tagging as v0.9 beta 4 |
| 09:35.21 | rapidgame | http://www.wowace.com/paste/170/ *crosses fingers* |
| 09:35.56 | nevcairiel | that could probably work |
| 09:36.32 | Arrowmaster | no no you need the "ANCHOR_NONE" in the setowner |
| 09:37.02 | rapidgame | kk |
| 09:38.29 | rapidgame | thanks guys, works like a charm! should i put it anywhere incase someone else is looking for a similar solution? |
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| 09:39.24 | rapidgame | s/it/the code/ |
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| 10:02.38 | Repo | 10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme * r30 / (2 files in 1 directory): EggTimer: |
| 10:02.40 | Repo | - trying out locale-independent item detection and retention |
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| 10:17.05 | Repo | 10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme * r31 EggTimer.lua: EggTimer: |
| 10:17.08 | Repo | - fixed broken tooltip /sigh |
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| 10:20.35 | Wizardling | Hi, I get the warning that Pitbull 4 has been locked from an action available only to the Blizzard UI |
| 10:20.45 | Wizardling | happens when I try to set a focus |
| 10:21.06 | Wizardling | also I cannot right click on a target fram to set focus |
| 10:21.09 | Shefki | Wizardling: With the right click menu? |
| 10:21.14 | Wizardling | yes |
| 10:21.22 | Shefki | Blizzard Bug, fixed in 3.0.8 |
| 10:21.27 | Wizardling | same warning I got with IceHUD |
| 10:21.39 | Wizardling | okay, thanks |
| 10:21.56 | Wizardling | are you supposed to be able to right click on other frames besides your own? |
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| 10:24.36 | Shefki | Wizardling: Depends upon the frame and the unit it's referencing. |
| 10:25.16 | Repo | 10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme * r32 EggTimer.lua: EggTimer: |
| 10:25.19 | Repo | - really fix it this time, promise |
| 10:25.34 | Wizardling | target frame then |
| 10:25.47 | Shefki | Depends upon what you're targeting. |
| 10:26.02 | Wizardling | I'd like to right click it and set focus (though of course that's buggy for now) |
| 10:26.20 | Shefki | You can for most units once Blizzard fixes it. |
| 10:26.34 | Wizardling | a plainstrider and an NPC so far |
| 10:26.46 | Wizardling | no players about |
| 10:27.04 | Shefki | Doesn't usually work on NPCs for whatever reason. |
| 10:28.08 | Wizardling | nor on a plainstrider |
| 10:28.12 | Shefki | Ohh I'm guessing it's probably not showing for NPCs because the only option is Set Focus and it doesn't work anyway. |
| 10:28.23 | rapidgame | is there anyway to get the name of the current item and the previous item a player had equipped to a slot when they switch armor from their inventory? |
| 10:28.25 | Shefki | So we're probably just not showing it atm. |
| 10:28.46 | Shefki | rapidgame: Keep track of what the player has equipped. |
| 10:29.33 | Wizardling | BTW - is there a simple addon to move the loot window under my mouse pointer with each click to take loot? |
| 10:29.45 | rapidgame | Shefki: so i have to manually make a table and record the item IDs of what the player has equipped in each slot, and check this table - no build it method? |
| 10:29.45 | Wizardling | I used to do that with Cosmos |
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| 10:30.02 | Shefki | rapidgame: To know what the previous item is yes. |
| 10:30.23 | Shefki | UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED fires when equipped items changed. |
| 10:30.38 | Shefki | The only info you get is the unitid that changed items. |
| 10:30.38 | rapidgame | thanks |
| 10:30.49 | Shefki | So watch for that event and the unitid being "player" |
| 10:30.50 | rapidgame | like "player"? |
| 10:30.54 | rapidgame | yep |
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| 10:32.06 | Repo | 10prat_signon: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.2.5-3-geb68187 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Add Simplified Chinese (zhCN) locale. Thanks fryy! |
| 10:33.23 | EthanCentaurai | does anyone know why MacGit will only let me push from the /Applications/ folder and nowhere else? :/ |
| 10:37.57 | Repo | 10prat_signon: 03ethancentaurai 04v2.2.6 * 0d1e1a0 /: [new tag] Tagging as v2.2.6 |
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| 10:44.28 | theoddone33 | http://wowwebstats.com/yb6jxqc4y5lei?m&s=124657-145065 main tank over 4k dps |
| 10:44.33 | theoddone33 | lawl |
| 10:44.48 | theoddone33 | hat rogues |
| 10:45.57 | Repo | 10questitem: 03Pericles * r37 / (2 files in 1 directory): QuestItem: - |
| 10:46.00 | Repo | added Freya's Ward & updated todo.txt |
| 10:48.31 | theoddone33 | I love this WWS's from progression guilds |
| 10:48.42 | theoddone33 | no boss in naxx lasted longer than 3:24 |
| 10:50.32 | many | makes big eyes |
| 10:51.22 | many | 8k dps |
| 10:51.23 | many | need |
| 10:51.23 | nevcairiel | they need to finally fix hat |
| 10:51.23 | Arrowmaster | have you noticed the obviously altered reports on WWS top 10? |
| 10:51.34 | theoddone33 | hmm, no |
| 10:52.01 | Arrowmaster | there was a 30 second patchwerk kill with like 15 people on there |
| 10:52.07 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 10:52.23 | many | how many of you have been inside sunwell plateau? |
| 10:52.34 | Arrowmaster | i have |
| 10:52.48 | Daemona | < |
| 10:52.56 | sacarasc | I have, but barely |
| 10:53.01 | many | i was wondering wether the instance is that hard as it appeared to me |
| 10:53.21 | many | even with a large number of 80ies in a 25 man raid we couldnt take down the third boss |
| 10:53.33 | Daemona | chuckles. |
| 10:53.40 | Arrowmaster | felmyst? |
| 10:53.41 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 10:53.44 | many | yep |
| 10:54.00 | nevcairiel | haha fail :P |
| 10:54.10 | many | i mean it was semi-random group and most havent seen the instance before |
| 10:54.11 | Arrowmaster | guessing people didnt know wtf to do |
| 10:54.14 | rapidgame | any method to get the itemID of an item in an equipment slot? |
| 10:54.41 | Arrowmaster | rapidgame: yes get the link for it |
| 10:54.45 | many | rapid: epgp does that, the least. |
| 10:54.49 | many | Arrowmaster: probably. |
| 10:55.01 | many | still |
| 10:55.07 | Arrowmaster | !api getinventoryitemlink |
| 10:55.07 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'GetInventoryItemLink' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventoryItemLink |
| 10:55.15 | Arrowmaster | hey it worked |
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| 10:55.20 | many | kara was easy pie with a similar group |
| 10:55.26 | many | swp wasnt. |
| 10:55.30 | Daemona | omg |
| 10:55.40 | Daemona | you are comparing karazhan with sunwell plateau? |
| 10:55.50 | rapidgame | Arrowmaster: cheers dude |
| 10:55.50 | many | Daemona: feel free to omg casuals. |
| 10:56.00 | Daemona | no i am going OMG |
| 10:56.09 | many | either way. feel free ;) |
| 10:56.11 | Daemona | you are comparing Tier4 with Tier7.5 |
| 10:56.20 | Daemona | on a gear AND difficulty scale |
| 10:56.26 | Arrowmaster | swp is a complete joke even at 70 if people know wtf to do |
| 10:56.27 | SunTsu | .o0( tier7.5? ) |
| 10:56.30 | theoddone33 | you could 2 man kara |
| 10:56.30 | nevcairiel | wasnt it more 6.5? =P |
| 10:56.40 | Daemona | yeah mistyped QQ more |
| 10:56.40 | theoddone33 | except maybe netherspite |
| 10:56.53 | Bruners | all in all it was still t6 :P |
| 10:57.05 | Daemona | netherspite is a joke.... can you still abuse the "dance in dance out the tank beam" ? |
| 10:57.06 | nevcairiel | people like inventing new tier names |
| 10:57.06 | theoddone33 | we had a tough time in BT with a raid of 25 people 71-74 and like 6 80s from my guild |
| 10:57.11 | theoddone33 | because none of them knew what to do |
| 10:57.26 | nevcairiel | Daemona, sure you can, but the point was you might need 3 people for all beams :D |
| 10:57.33 | Arrowmaster | i bet gorefiend was fun |
| 10:57.39 | theoddone33 | gorefiend was easy |
| 10:57.56 | Arrowmaster | kill him before anybody died? |
| 10:57.58 | Daemona | gaaah i better start up or i start the stupid vs casual ranting |
| 10:58.00 | theoddone33 | we had trouble on bloodboil because 1 tank |
| 10:58.09 | Arrowmaster | lol 1 tank? |
| 10:58.13 | many | Daemona: basically i wanted to have some... scaling on where to put SWP in difficulty level. |
| 10:58.16 | many | because |
| 10:58.18 | many | wether you believe it or not |
| 10:58.19 | theoddone33 | and we wiped once on RoS |
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| 10:58.26 | theoddone33 | but they kept pulling extra trash |
| 10:58.29 | theoddone33 | accidentally |
| 10:58.33 | theoddone33 | that was the main problem |
| 10:58.39 | rapidgame | is inventoryID and inventorySlotID the same? |
| 10:58.43 | Daemona | many as i said on a scale from 1 to 7, karazhan is a 4, sunwell a 7 |
| 10:58.52 | nevcairiel | many, it was/is the hardest instance ever |
| 10:58.54 | many | until i was standing right before the instance i didnt even know that instance existed. when someone scheduled the raid i was even thinking he was talking of tdm |
| 10:58.57 | rapidgame | @rapid yep! |
| 10:58.57 | many | *whistle* |
| 10:59.19 | theoddone33 | is it still hard? |
| 10:59.29 | nevcairiel | if you don't know wtf you do |
| 10:59.30 | nevcairiel | probably |
| 10:59.34 | theoddone33 | the late TBC nerf made it... easy, for guilds that were clearing BT |
| 10:59.43 | Arrowmaster | i bet some could say swp is still harder than naxx considering how easy naxx is, people have to actually pay attention in swp |
| 10:59.45 | theoddone33 | ('I thought) |
| 10:59.52 | many | they didnt. someone explained some tactics and explained what the boss will do |
| 11:00.02 | nevcairiel | well yeah 3.0 nerfed swp alot |
| 11:00.09 | many | but he forgot to mention the mana drain for example which made the healers "WTF, wheres my mana gone" |
| 11:00.17 | nevcairiel | but naxx is still way easier |
| 11:00.25 | theoddone33 | disappointed in how easy naxx is |
| 11:00.32 | theoddone33 | but a lot of people are |
| 11:00.37 | Bruners | compared to how hard karazhan was? |
| 11:00.47 | theoddone33 | I'll wait until we down 3 drake to QQ about ease of content any more |
| 11:00.48 | Daemona | what version of karazhan? ^^ |
| 11:01.10 | many | but i guess that answers my question extensively enoough. thanks ^^ |
| 11:01.13 | nevcairiel | imho initial karazhan was harder then naxx |
| 11:01.17 | Arrowmaster | fuck i remember being the first guild on the server to kill netherspite just because nobody else would fucking try the fight they were scared of it |
| 11:01.23 | nevcairiel | but maybe thats because we knew naxx by heart already |
| 11:01.29 | Bruners | Naxx is easy since alot of people already know what to do |
| 11:01.46 | Daemona | it was harder than sunwell nevcairiel, do you recall the skeleton spawns with the 1k fire aura ticks? |
| 11:01.49 | theoddone33 | malygos isn't a hard fight but it took people a while to get used to it |
| 11:01.54 | Bruners | karazhan had a few gear checks |
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| 11:02.27 | Daemona | theoddone33 tell the windowlickers to do the stupid daily to understand the drakes abilities? |
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| 11:02.36 | many | unbuffed, how much frost resistance should one bring to naxx? |
| 11:02.41 | Daemona | 0 |
| 11:02.42 | theoddone33 | still haven't done that daily, heh |
| 11:02.44 | Arrowmaster | yeah when kara first came out you had to deck your MT in blues and heroic gear, and then heroics were fucking hard |
| 11:03.03 | Daemona | uuh yeah, 8k melee AE anybody? |
| 11:03.18 | many | 0? buffed brings all frost resistance needed for naxx??? |
| 11:03.23 | theoddone33 | it's a little sad because unless you're on the edge of progression every fight has a youtube video that explains the exact tactics needed |
| 11:03.34 | theoddone33 | and it's just a matter of copying the video closely enough |
| 11:03.36 | Arrowmaster | you dont need any frost resist |
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| 11:03.40 | Daemona | why would you think there is an achievement to do sapphiron with less than 100 frost resistance? |
| 11:03.45 | Daemona | because its doable |
| 11:03.53 | many | why are people telling it then :) |
| 11:03.56 | Daemona | and motw + totem is a shitload resistance already |
| 11:04.18 | many | motw gives me 75, yup |
| 11:04.19 | Arrowmaster | yeah you just need to slap your shamans and pallidins not to put up frost resist then free achievement |
| 11:04.26 | Chosi | lots of my guild and other guilds already have that achievement |
| 11:04.31 | Chosi | must be quite easy. |
| 11:04.35 | theoddone33 | anyone experimented with dampen magic on saph? |
| 11:04.43 | many | ok. thanks |
| 11:04.45 | theoddone33 | I keep wondering if it'd be better/worse or make no difference |
| 11:04.49 | theoddone33 | I think it'd make no difference |
| 11:05.01 | Daemona | it'd be worse |
| 11:05.06 | Arrowmaster | dampen is usually never good |
| 11:05.07 | Daemona | because it lengthens the fight |
| 11:05.18 | Arrowmaster | amp is good when theres no magic damage |
| 11:05.22 | Daemona | (the frost resistance, not dampen) |
| 11:05.24 | theoddone33 | dampen is good for frequent bursts of small damage |
| 11:05.34 | theoddone33 | like the one nexus achievement |
| 11:05.44 | theoddone33 | I don't think saph's aura qualifies as frequent or small |
| 11:05.46 | Daemona | theoddone33 you do know that dampen reduces magic damage taken |
| 11:05.49 | Daemona | and HEALING TAKEN |
| 11:05.51 | Daemona | ... |
| 11:05.53 | theoddone33 | yes of course |
| 11:06.11 | theoddone33 | have you done the nexus achievement? it's 500 damage a tick |
| 11:06.26 | Arrowmaster | the rift one? |
| 11:06.27 | theoddone33 | dampen cuts it in half, but heals are larger |
| 11:06.29 | Xinhuan | that's not really correct anymore though |
| 11:06.34 | theoddone33 | yeah, the rift one |
| 11:06.35 | nevcairiel | you can focus the rift dmg on one person |
| 11:06.42 | nevcairiel | if you're smrt |
| 11:06.49 | Arrowmaster | we just did it and didnt use any tricks |
| 11:06.51 | theoddone33 | just saying, dampen trivializes the achievement |
| 11:06.52 | Xinhuan | dampen/amplify now reduce/increase damagetaken/healing by the same amount |
| 11:06.55 | Xinhuan | its no longer double/half |
| 11:06.56 | Arrowmaster | just ran away |
| 11:07.17 | theoddone33 | that's a case where it works out because the damage is frequent and small |
| 11:07.25 | theoddone33 | and the heals are less freuqent and large |
| 11:07.46 | Xinhuan | that is, amplify magic is now +240 damage taken, and +255 healing received |
| 11:08.02 | Xinhuan | similarly, dampen is -240 damage taken and -250 healing received |
| 11:08.07 | Xinhuan | 255* |
| 11:08.45 | Arrowmaster | except what does that turn out to be with the spellpower changes |
| 11:09.03 | Arrowmaster | about the same as the old? |
| 11:09.14 | theoddone33 | spell power affects those? |
| 11:09.18 | Xinhuan | no, a lot less |
| 11:09.32 | Arrowmaster | the coefficients should |
| 11:09.34 | Xinhuan | well in the case of sartharion |
| 11:09.39 | Xinhuan | you would take 240 more damage |
| 11:09.45 | Xinhuan | per breathe |
| 11:10.12 | Xinhuan | but receive +255 healing per heal |
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| 11:10.40 | Arrowmaster | it used to always be effected but the spells coefficient i thought |
| 11:10.51 | theoddone33 | I am pretty sure it's static |
| 11:10.58 | Arrowmaster | or atleast the healing part |
| 11:11.07 | theoddone33 | or the coefficient is so small that it's not noticable |
| 11:11.28 | theoddone33 | when I've used dampen it does actually take 240 damage off |
| 11:11.32 | many | oh, another thing i was pondering about. when talking of usefulness of hit, most people talk of cap on l83 bosses. how does a l83 boss compare with the heroic target dummy in IF? :^) |
| 11:11.43 | theoddone33 | they're the same |
| 11:11.49 | theoddone33 | the boss target dummies are the same |
| 11:12.03 | Arrowmaster | the combat log does show negative heals when you have dappen and get very small heals, or it did |
| 11:12.06 | many | so i can compare my stats on the heroic dummy with a l83 boss |
| 11:12.22 | theoddone33 | I've only played mage seriously for 4 months so I can't say |
| 11:12.27 | theoddone33 | what used to happen |
| 11:12.27 | Arrowmaster | the heroic dummy is a lvl 83 boss |
| 11:12.45 | Arrowmaster | just if you are alone its lacking all the normal raid buffs |
| 11:12.46 | theoddone33 | a hard one to down too |
| 11:12.52 | many | ohh. cool. so i can estimate some numbers on that one. |
| 11:12.54 | many | yea |
| 11:13.22 | theoddone33 | you have to watch out with dummies because they stay at low health |
| 11:13.32 | theoddone33 | so for instance if you're a fire mage you might be seeing 12% more damage |
| 11:14.18 | theoddone33 | best to just use recount in real raid situations |
| 11:14.24 | many | im using recount to... well estimate how many dmg i can put out before going oom unbuffed and to estimate how rotations affect dps |
| 11:14.38 | theoddone33 | yeah dummies are good for that |
| 11:14.48 | theoddone33 | what class do you play? |
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| 11:14.54 | many | oomkin |
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| 11:15.07 | many | although raidbuffed i found it very hard to go oom lately |
| 11:15.07 | theoddone33 | I see |
| 11:15.20 | theoddone33 | it's almost impossible in a 25 man raid even while chain casting |
| 11:15.28 | theoddone33 | at least for me (mage) |
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| 11:15.42 | Arrowmaster | i still have to lifetap =( |
| 11:15.50 | Arrowmaster | we dont have many repleshment sources |
| 11:15.57 | many | just wish allies would buff up in wintergrasp, because thats the only zone currently where i need to innervate now and then |
| 11:16.45 | theoddone33 | I like having full mana most of the time, but I have to figure out when to use my mana gems since they buff my spell power |
| 11:18.31 | Shefki | Seriously WTF: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6470187001&sid=1 |
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| 11:21.45 | many | oO |
| 11:21.54 | [Ammo] | Shefki: haha, I totally agree with him |
| 11:22.01 | [Ammo] | need gnome priests/paladins |
| 11:22.04 | [Ammo] | finally an all gnome raid |
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| 11:22.34 | Shefki | I can't decide if he's trolling or he really believes it. |
| 11:26.06 | Bruners | trolling |
| 11:26.07 | many | but i have to say i really like some sentences said in that thread. |
| 11:26.17 | NivFreak | blizzard is so evil with ret effects on red terrain |
| 11:27.02 | theoddone33 | can't decide whether farming DM east is faster than just looking for thorium in the open world |
| 11:27.31 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 11:27.39 | Arrowmaster | hit up the old hot spots |
| 11:27.54 | Arrowmaster | winterspring, ungoro |
| 11:27.54 | theoddone33 | dm east is 2 guaranteed rich veins every 12 minutes |
| 11:28.02 | theoddone33 | I guess running around winterspring is better |
| 11:28.12 | Arrowmaster | 12 minutes? |
| 11:28.15 | Arrowmaster | hmm thats not bad |
| 11:28.16 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 11:28.27 | theoddone33 | that's on my 72 paladin |
| 11:28.50 | NivFreak | theoddone33: silithus was always best for me |
| 11:28.55 | NivFreak | in the bug hives |
| 11:29.02 | theoddone33 | silithus is good because of the ooze covered ones, yeah |
| 11:29.38 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know somebody that fucking farmed enough crystals for a thunderfury from silithus in a few weeks |
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| 11:29.59 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 11:30.08 | theoddone33 | I just need the last 30 tough points in JCing |
| 11:30.11 | Arrowmaster | he was a rogue |
| 11:30.31 | Arrowmaster | and kept stealing them from the other warrior in the guild that also had a binding |
| 11:30.40 | Arrowmaster | it was funny |
| 11:31.13 | theoddone33 | we did a fails MC today |
| 11:31.31 | theoddone33 | we realized about halfway through the hydrax quests that none of us would be able to get the water in a reasonable timeframe |
| 11:31.37 | Arrowmaster | on man speaking of thunderfury.... i know ive told this story before and somebodys probably already heard it |
| 11:31.50 | theoddone33 | the rep is broke so you can't earn honored unless you farm trash for a... long ... time |
| 11:32.06 | Arrowmaster | i think it was my old guilds 2nd thunderfury we were making and i asked if i could make one of the bars for the guys |
| 11:33.25 | Arrowmaster | so im in silithus at the forge and i crafted it, then i went to do the start hearthing then cancel it joke but my cable modem lost connection before i could cancel it and the guy was almost freaking out |
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| 11:36.25 | rapidgame | any way to compare to tables and only return the entries that were different? |
| 11:36.35 | nevcairiel | so you hearthed and logged out? ha :P |
| 11:36.41 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 11:36.50 | Arrowmaster | and logged off vent |
| 11:41.19 | Xinhuan | rapidgame, standard method is to iterate over both and check the other table |
| 11:43.29 | many | hehe |
| 11:44.18 | many | it had been funnier if you had managed to /gquit then. |
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| 12:29.23 | Mikk | how to make sure noone fiddles with your project: migrate to mercurial |
| 12:29.37 | Arrowmaster | yup |
| 12:30.18 | Kalroth | Mercurial is solid!! |
| 12:31.05 | Mikk | not in room temperature! |
| 12:31.39 | Mikk | apologizes for cracking cheap nerd jokes |
| 12:32.14 | rapidgame | if i want to exit a for loop early and go onto the next variable, do i just use end, or is it next in lua? |
| 12:32.43 | Mikk | that doesnt exist |
| 12:32.50 | rapidgame | not possible? |
| 12:33.07 | Mikk | you'd have nest if..then..end tests inside the loop |
| 12:33.09 | Mikk | yes, we all think it sucks |
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| 12:33.20 | rapidgame | haha, damnit - okay :-) |
| 12:33.31 | Mikk | i assume you're thinking about e.g. "continue"/"next" |
| 12:33.33 | Mikk | "break" does exist |
| 12:33.35 | rapidgame | yep |
| 12:33.39 | rapidgame | not break |
| 12:33.41 | Mikk | nods |
| 12:34.07 | rapidgame | well, just a bit uglier with the if thens, but no biggie |
| 12:34.15 | Mikk | there's even 5-line patches out there to introduce a "continue" but that doesnt help when wow doesnt use em |
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| 12:34.33 | Fisker- | w/me wrooms |
| 12:34.34 | Fisker- | :( |
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| 12:42.13 | doom0r | way to ninja elementium arow |
| 12:42.16 | doom0r | arrow* |
| 12:42.24 | doom0r | ;x |
| 12:46.43 | Xinhuan | mikk, there's a "hackish" way though |
| 12:46.48 | Xinhuan | for a continue statement |
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| 12:47.03 | Mikk | as in in-lua ? |
| 12:47.08 | Xinhuan | yea |
| 12:47.15 | Mikk | interesting |
| 12:47.25 | Xinhuan | you have the outer loop |
| 12:47.38 | Xinhuan | and you create a useless inner loop to break from |
| 12:47.41 | Xinhuan | for eg |
| 12:47.43 | Mikk | aaaaargh =) |
| 12:48.20 | Pneumatus_ | yeh you can do .. while true or something |
| 12:48.20 | Xinhuan | for k = 1, 10 do repeat (use break here to "continue") until true end |
| 12:48.35 | Pneumatus_ | that's it ^^ |
| 12:48.37 | Xinhuan | careful there |
| 12:48.42 | Xinhuan | you could infinite loop hehe |
| 12:49.21 | Xinhuan | in effect, the useless inner loop is just to allow "break" to do a goto end of outer loop |
| 12:49.54 | Pneumatus | although that's not really how continue works |
| 12:50.03 | Pneumatus | continue lets you end the current iteration and move on to the next |
| 12:50.06 | Xinhuan | almost the same |
| 12:50.09 | Pneumatus | not break the loop completely |
| 12:50.43 | Xinhuan | well you're breaking the inner loop, so in effect its the same, "continue" is just a goto end of loop so you can start the next iteration |
| 12:51.30 | Xinhuan | including any end of iteration checks |
| 12:51.30 | Pneumatus | yeh, it's as close to continue as we can get atm anyway |
| 12:51.40 | Mikk | i wonder what that compiles as |
| 12:51.44 | Xinhuan | its funny how it took 5 versions of Lua to get continue in ~_~ |
| 12:52.03 | Mikk | well,, continue is almost a goto, and goto is evil!!!!1111 |
| 12:52.06 | Pneumatus | it will compile as 2 jumps |
| 12:52.16 | Xinhuan | lua> for k = 1, 10 do repeat if k == 4 then break else print(k) end until true end |
| 12:52.16 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 |
| 12:52.42 | Mikk | except the "else" made it pointless =) |
| 12:53.04 | Xinhuan | well yeah |
| 12:53.05 | Mikk | lua> for k = 1, 10 do repeat if k == 4 then print("oink") else print(k) end until true end |
| 12:53.05 | lua_bot | Mikk: 1, 2, 3, oink, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 |
| 12:53.32 | Pneumatus | wtb 'break if foo == bar' |
| 12:53.37 | Mikk | er no |
| 12:53.39 | Pneumatus | love right hand evaluation in perl :< |
| 12:53.42 | Mikk | no reverse notation |
| 12:53.43 | Mikk | please |
| 12:54.16 | Grum | reverse ftw |
| 12:54.21 | Grum | perl <3 |
| 12:54.22 | Pneumatus | it makes it more readable, imo :P |
| 12:54.48 | Mikk | http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-perl-737.html |
| 12:54.49 | Mikk | nuf said |
| 12:54.51 | Pneumatus | also wtb 'foo = (bar == baz) ? 1 : 2' |
| 12:55.13 | Xinhuan | foo = bar == baz and 1 or 2 |
| 12:55.19 | Xinhuan | you almost got it!! |
| 12:55.31 | Grum | except that you need to have a true value for '1' |
| 12:55.34 | Grum | else it breaks :D |
| 12:55.36 | Mikk | except the and/or haxery can bite you in the ass if you play with boolean values |
| 12:55.55 | Xinhuan | in that specific case |
| 12:56.01 | Xinhuan | you're testing for equality anyway |
| 12:56.10 | Xinhuan | so its a boolean value result |
| 12:56.23 | Mikk | works: (bar == baz) ? false : nil |
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| 12:56.32 | Mikk | doesnt: bar == baz and false or nil |
| 12:57.09 | Xinhuan | assigning a variable nil or false is counter intuitive though |
| 12:57.16 | Xinhuan | i would rewrite the code so it doesn't do tat |
| 12:57.19 | Xinhuan | :p |
| 12:57.22 | Mikk | hehe |
| 12:57.25 | Pneumatus | assining a table value nil isn't though |
| 12:57.28 | Mikk | it was an example gorblangit :P |
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| 12:58.09 | Mikk | but yeah i wouldn't mind the ?: construct personally, it makes it more clear what you're doing as opposed to guessing what your and/or is for |
| 12:58.17 | Mikk | and += and ++ and -- |
| 12:58.24 | Pneumatus | and ..= |
| 12:58.37 | Mikk | but i see why they don't want to do it |
| 12:58.40 | Mikk | keeping lua small etc |
| 12:58.47 | Pneumatus | string concatenation is a pain in the ass |
| 12:58.54 | Pneumatus | they clearly need an ..= operator |
| 12:59.10 | nevcairiel | meh those operators are just syntax candy |
| 12:59.11 | Mikk | well.. string concatenation is something you need to be really careful about either way :S |
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| 12:59.29 | Xinhuan | lua> {}.."a" |
| 12:59.29 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: luabot:1: attempt to concatenate a table value |
| 12:59.33 | Mikk | nevcairiel: true, it can be implemented as syntactical candy |
| 12:59.34 | Xinhuan | like that? ;p |
| 12:59.40 | Mikk | but then you lose the point of it |
| 12:59.45 | Pneumatus | also, if you add operators like ..=, += etc, the lexer will actually create less code when compiling |
| 12:59.53 | nevcairiel | a ? b : c is a real shortcut around alot of ifs, although candy too if you think about it =P |
| 12:59.56 | Pneumatus | as you dont need to conciously push the first variable twice |
| 12:59.58 | Xinhuan | it creates new problems Pneumatus |
| 13:00.26 | Xinhuan | local a = b++ * b++ |
| 13:00.27 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 13:00.53 | Xinhuan | whats a now? |
| 13:00.54 | Pneumatus | {foo} = {foo} .. {bar} vs, {foo} ..= {bar} results in one less push/pop for the operation |
| 13:01.22 | Xinhuan | that's dependant on where the variable is |
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| 13:01.30 | Xinhuan | if its on the stack, yes, if it isn't, no |
| 13:01.33 | Pneumatus | Xinhuan: depends if the language increments after the whole line evaluation, or after each variable evaluation |
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| 13:01.46 | Mikk | should be after each var eval |
| 13:01.59 | nevcairiel | thats how C does it anyway |
| 13:02.11 | nevcairiel | consider b = 2 before anything, a is 6 |
| 13:02.31 | Pneumatus | C would do b * b+1, and the end state of b would be b+2 iirc |
| 13:02.38 | Mikk | yes |
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| 13:02.46 | nevcairiel | however using ++ in assignments is really ugly anyway |
| 13:02.46 | Xinhuan | now consider local a = b++ or b-- |
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| 13:02.57 | Mikk | b-- would never evaluate |
| 13:03.02 | Xinhuan | exactly |
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| 13:03.13 | nevcairiel | its not a problem, though |
| 13:03.13 | Xinhuan | now consider |
| 13:03.18 | Xinhuan | a[b] = b++ |
| 13:03.21 | Mikk | local a = b or BOMBTHEWORLD() |
| 13:03.22 | Mikk | same problem |
| 13:03.42 | Pneumatus | b would be incremented post-assignment Xinhuan |
| 13:03.42 | Mikk | also not a problem xin :) |
| 13:03.51 | Pneumatus | so a[b] = b; b = b+1 |
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| 13:03.56 | Mikk | granted, i've been trained to think this way for nigh on 20 years |
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| 13:04.06 | Xinhuan | in C, they explicitly said that ++ will only occur after the whole statement finishes |
| 13:04.14 | Mikk | er no they didnt |
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| 13:05.03 | Mikk | ++ will be executed after the value is retreived. "whole statement" has nothing to do with it |
| 13:05.21 | Xinhuan | a[b] = b++ <-- they have to evaluate the right hand side first, then the left, then perform the assignment, then increment |
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| 13:05.53 | Pneumatus | not if you put the original b on the stack ready to be assigned too |
| 13:05.59 | Pneumatus | well, a[b] |
| 13:06.01 | Xinhuan | that is, if b is 2, it runs a[2] = 2 |
| 13:06.06 | Xinhuan | not a[3] = 2 |
| 13:06.14 | Pneumatus | or a[3] = 3 |
| 13:06.23 | nevcairiel | write a simple C app that does that, and nothing else |
| 13:06.28 | nevcairiel | and look at the assembly .P |
| 13:08.07 | Mikk | hups, my test app segfaulted |
| 13:08.09 | Pneumatus | it gets more fun if you overload ++ and -- in C++ :> |
| 13:08.30 | Xinhuan | you didn't declare a[] did you haha |
| 13:08.37 | Xinhuan | with a suitable size |
| 13:08.47 | Mikk | actually i forgot the "%i" in printf() because i've been coding too much lua lately =( |
| 13:09.12 | Mikk | anyway yeah given b=2; a[2] becomes 2. |
| 13:09.15 | Mikk | like i thought |
| 13:09.52 | Mikk | now the really interesting bit is |
| 13:10.03 | Mikk | what becomes of a[b + b++] = b++ |
| 13:10.29 | Mikk | i'd say a[4] = 3 |
| 13:10.30 | Pneumatus | a[b + b] = b; b = b+2 |
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| 13:10.48 | Mikk | dang, a[4]=2 |
| 13:10.59 | Pneumatus | was i right? :P |
| 13:11.08 | Mikk | yeah you were |
| 13:11.20 | Mikk | and i was wrong earlier too, it really does eval the whole statement |
| 13:11.23 | Mikk | xin wins |
| 13:11.53 | Mikk | b=2; a= b++ * b++ |
| 13:11.53 | Mikk | a becomes 4 |
| 13:12.38 | nevcairiel | somehow the format of the gcc assembler is weird |
| 13:12.45 | nevcairiel | i'm used to masm :P |
| 13:13.05 | Mikk | b=2; a[b] = ++b * ++b |
| 13:13.05 | dodga | what is that "hide tab" option in Grid for? what is the "tab" in Grid anyway :D |
| 13:13.07 | Mikk | a[2] becomes 16 |
| 13:13.11 | many | gcc is hp syntax afair |
| 13:13.29 | Pneumatus | pre-increment will increment before statement evaluation |
| 13:13.29 | Xinhuan | what i can tell you though, is a statement like a=(b++)/(++b); is undefined |
| 13:13.33 | Pneumatus | so that makese sense also |
| 13:13.46 | doom0r | dodga: drag tab perhaps? |
| 13:13.55 | Mikk | ok fine, scrap ++ and -- |
| 13:14.00 | Mikk | give us +=1 and -=1 |
| 13:14.00 | Mikk | =) |
| 13:14.09 | Xinhuan | The result for a can be b/(b+1) or b/(b+2) (where b is the value before evaluating the statement). |
| 13:14.24 | Xinhuan | depends on the compiler implementation |
| 13:16.10 | Xinhuan | i know you're thinking by logic that a == 1 ;p |
| 13:16.12 | Xinhuan | but it isn't |
| 13:16.21 | dodga | doom0r: Ah okay, it shows when the frame is not locked. Thanks :D |
| 13:17.17 | Shefki | Xinhuan: I thought that issue was fixed with C99 |
| 13:17.31 | Shefki | As far as stardizing a=(b++)/(++b) |
| 13:17.31 | Xinhuan | no idea on that one Shefki |
| 13:17.49 | Xinhuan | but the moral is don't put more than one ++ on a single line |
| 13:17.54 | nevcairiel | not like many compilers implement C99 yet |
| 13:18.24 | Xinhuan | its best to put ++ on a single line by itself tbh |
| 13:18.24 | Zao | Sequence points are your friends. |
| 13:19.00 | Shefki | nevcairiel: GCC is close to C99 complete. And does anyone even use anything else except Microsoft people? |
| 13:19.11 | Xinhuan | and you're probably wonder if compilers can even compile something like a = b++++c |
| 13:19.22 | Xinhuan | you'll* |
| 13:22.32 | Shefki | Here's a fun one... |
| 13:22.36 | nevcairiel | thats missing one plus, or so :P |
| 13:22.45 | Shefki | Find a portable way to find the max value of an integer in C. |
| 13:22.58 | Xinhuan | portable? |
| 13:23.07 | Shefki | As in it'll work with any C compiler. |
| 13:23.13 | Xinhuan | max value of an integer? |
| 13:23.14 | Shefki | That follows at least C89 |
| 13:23.17 | Shefki | Yup |
| 13:23.28 | Xinhuan | max value of an integer is itself?? |
| 13:23.37 | Shefki | int x |
| 13:23.44 | Xinhuan | or max values of 2 integers? |
| 13:23.44 | Shefki | What's the maximum value that x can be. |
| 13:23.44 | nevcairiel | limits.h INT_MAXVAL :P |
| 13:23.51 | mitch0 | #include <limits.h> ? |
| 13:23.53 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 13:24.05 | Xinhuan | err |
| 13:24.08 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Not portable, limits.h isn't standardized unfortunately. |
| 13:24.19 | nevcairiel | sizeof(int) and calculate the size? |
| 13:24.27 | Shefki | Calculate how? |
| 13:24.37 | mitch0 | 1<<sizeof(int) |
| 13:24.38 | Xinhuan | just cast int x = -1 to unsigned int y ? |
| 13:24.39 | nevcairiel | number of bytes does tell you how many numbers you can store in there |
| 13:24.50 | mitch0 | erm, *8 somewhere maybe :) |
| 13:24.56 | Shefki | mitch0: Assumes one compliment integer implementation. Non-portable. |
| 13:25.19 | Shefki | The answer is you can't. |
| 13:25.38 | Shefki | Most people end up using what mitch0 gave or some variation of that. |
| 13:25.49 | nevcairiel | well when do you really need that, anyway |
| 13:25.52 | Navv | most people end up using #include <limits.h> nowadays, i'd imagine |
| 13:26.22 | Shefki | nevcairiel: It can become important in avoiding overflows. |
| 13:26.29 | Xinhuan | what about mine? |
| 13:26.35 | Xinhuan | casting -1 to unsigned |
| 13:26.42 | Shefki | Xinhuan: Same diff as mitch0 |
| 13:26.44 | mitch0 | in any case, I'm almost sure limits.h is standardized |
| 13:26.47 | nevcairiel | unsigned implementation isnt the same on every system |
| 13:26.56 | Shefki | The only thing you can do is do the following: |
| 13:27.21 | nevcairiel | limits.h is part of the C stdlib |
| 13:27.32 | Navv | its not a part of C89 |
| 13:27.46 | Xinhuan | then i'm just going to have to say |
| 13:27.47 | Xinhuan | that |
| 13:27.51 | Xinhuan | you start with 1 |
| 13:27.55 | Kalroth | haha |
| 13:27.57 | Xinhuan | and multiply by 2 until itoverflows |
| 13:28.33 | Kalroth | that's actually not that bad of a solution :) |
| 13:28.43 | Shefki | Xinhuan: You pretty much can't find the max value, but you can test if you're going to wrap and that's all you can do. |
| 13:28.56 | Shefki | Without resorting to brute forcing. |
| 13:29.00 | Xinhuan | alright, whats the solution? |
| 13:29.08 | Repo | 10buttonfacade: 03StormFX * r211 Locales/ruRU.lua: - ruRU update. (Swix) |
| 13:29.13 | Shefki | There's no solution that's portable. |
| 13:29.18 | Shefki | C just sucks like that. |
| 13:29.26 | Xinhuan | in otherwords you asked a trick question? |
| 13:29.29 | Xinhuan | ~lart Shefki |
| 13:29.29 | purl | beats Shefki severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken |
| 13:29.53 | mitch0 | shefki: according to wikipedia, limits.h is part of c89 |
| 13:30.04 | nevcairiel | according to that page my google found, limits.h and INT_MAX is part of C89 |
| 13:30.13 | mitch0 | nev: :) |
| 13:30.24 | mitch0 | I call shefki a fudder :P |
| 13:30.28 | Kalroth | http://www.netrino.com/node/140 |
| 13:30.55 | jnwhiteh | so nevcairiel and mitch0 tie with the win! |
| 13:31.00 | Kalroth | l2C99 and use uint32_t! |
| 13:31.22 | Navv | my k&r ansic actually does have limits.h |
| 13:31.31 | Navv | so that is true, interesting |
| 13:31.49 | Kalroth | Shefki's Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzyFmilkd80 |
| 13:32.10 | mitch0 | so, what's up with www.wowace.com? |
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| 13:32.22 | nevcairiel | works for me |
| 13:32.31 | Kalroth | nev runs his torrent server from it now |
| 13:32.34 | Kalroth | so it might be slow at times |
| 13:32.37 | mitch0 | ah, it works now |
| 13:33.20 | doom0r | Kalroth: i've seen 3yr olds dance better than that video |
| 13:33.22 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Could have sworn it wasn't. Project I ran into this on was targeting C89 and we couldn't use limits.h for some other reason then. |
| 13:33.29 | SunTsu | Yay for be.imb.hu and EU armory: Armory reliability today: EU 0% |
| 13:33.40 | mitch0 | offtopic: Qt will be LGPL |
| 13:33.45 | Kalroth | old |
| 13:35.03 | Kalroth | Shefki: btw, couldn't you just cast a 128bit memory block to an integer, different values depending on the size of the integer! |
| 13:35.33 | Kalroth | I don't think that counts as brute force! |
| 13:35.34 | jnwhiteh | Kalroth: brilliant! |
| 13:35.50 | Shefki | Kalroth: I remember suggesting that and having the guy who knew the standards inside and out telling me it wasn't portable but don't remember why. |
| 13:36.10 | Kalroth | as long as you know the results for 8/16/32/64, it should be fine |
| 13:36.19 | Kalroth | hell, could even make a table for 7bit integers |
| 13:36.35 | Kalroth | er, for all integer sizes |
| 13:36.38 | Kalroth | like 7bit etc. |
| 13:37.03 | Shefki | Well the big problem was we actually had a target platform that wasn't 2's compliment. |
| 13:37.11 | Kalroth | urgh |
| 13:37.40 | Shefki | Let's just say the guy who dealt with that fixed lots of bugs. |
| 13:37.56 | nevcairiel | i never want to do embeded development for such crazy platforms <.< |
| 13:38.29 | jnwhiteh | word |
| 13:38.33 | Kalroth | I've coded a communication driver for a 7bit platform, converting 7bit data to 8bit to 32bit is fun an exciting. |
| 13:38.44 | Kalroth | (I did the Windows side) |
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| 13:39.13 | jnwhiteh | so I have some very specific operating systems questions to ask, as in trying to find the right OS platform for my current research. Any suggestions as to where I should try asking first? |
| 13:39.47 | Kalroth | Uhm, the right OS? What kind of research are you doing? |
| 13:40.00 | jnwhiteh | shared responsibility scheduling on SMP systems |
| 13:40.06 | Kalroth | I'd say Linux or Unix in most of the cases, since you can develop pretty much .. oh |
| 13:40.08 | Kalroth | :P |
| 13:40.10 | Repo | 10talented_data: 03jerry * r187 / (5 files in 1 directory): regenerate |
| 13:40.29 | nevcairiel | I would still say linux as you can look at the kernel schedulers and all =P |
| 13:40.30 | Kalroth | I think Linux got patches for that already |
| 13:40.31 | jnwhiteh | yeah, it essentially needs to be a microkernel system that can compile reasonable POSIX compliant software |
| 13:40.35 | mitch0 | jnwhite: freebsd |
| 13:40.43 | mitch0 | erm |
| 13:40.51 | Kalroth | uclinux |
| 13:40.54 | Kalroth | http://www.uclinux.org/ |
| 13:40.55 | mitch0 | in that case, Hurd or minix (har har) |
| 13:40.55 | jnwhiteh | Kalroth: I sincerely doubt it considering it hasn't been researched yet :P |
| 13:41.23 | Kalroth | jnwhiteh: Hey, it updated Nice for SMPs a while back! |
| 13:41.34 | jnwhiteh | its not shared responsibility between CPUs, its shared between the programming language and the operating system |
| 13:41.39 | Kalroth | oh |
| 13:41.45 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 13:41.49 | mitch0 | "the programming language"? |
| 13:41.50 | Kalroth | so basically user vs kernel? |
| 13:41.54 | mitch0 | or the runtime? |
| 13:42.00 | jnwhiteh | no, cooperative between user and kernel |
| 13:42.09 | jnwhiteh | yes, the PL runtime and the kernel |
| 13:42.17 | mitch0 | yield() |
| 13:42.19 | nevcairiel | that sounds like a lot of potential for slacking devs to screw up |
| 13:42.21 | Kalroth | sounds like jnwhiteh is messing with thread optimization! |
| 13:42.24 | mitch0 | been there since windows 1.0 :) |
| 13:42.39 | jnwhiteh | mitch0: not quite, no |
| 13:42.50 | jnwhiteh | Kalroth: much more than that, but in part |
| 13:43.01 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: So you're saying that there's developers out there that aren't slackers? |
| 13:43.05 | Kalroth | er, wait |
| 13:43.07 | mitch0 | jnwhiteh: why do you insist on microkernel stuff ? |
| 13:43.10 | Shefki | Kalroth: For what it matters rather than testing to see if x was <= MAX we ended up simply testing to see if x wrapped. If x was ever less than what we expected to be after some operation. |
| 13:43.15 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: So you're saying that there's developers out there that aren't slackers and don't screw up? |
| 13:43.19 | Kalroth | there :P |
| 13:43.32 | nevcairiel | probably |
| 13:43.36 | nevcairiel | somewhere |
| 13:43.43 | jnwhiteh | mitch0: I don't, but it's useful for a number of reasons.. specifically I can rip a component out and rewrite it using the system and benchmark it |
| 13:43.49 | Shefki | Ahh I remember why we couldn't use limits.h |
| 13:44.02 | jnwhiteh | and having shared responsibility scheduling with IPC makes for huge benefits |
| 13:44.08 | Kalroth | Shefki: Yeah, it was just from top of my head, it can be prettified somewhat :) |
| 13:44.17 | jnwhiteh | L4Ka::Pistachio implements that part quite well |
| 13:44.21 | Shefki | We were using a platform independent lib that did not have a defined limit for the data type we were using. |
| 13:44.32 | jnwhiteh | I don't insist, it's just the first thought |
| 13:45.18 | Shefki | e.g.: val = val * 10 + (c - '0'); if ((val / 10) != prev_valu) /* val wrapped past maximum value */ |
| 13:45.27 | mitch0 | jnwhiteh: well, take a look at fbsd. it's pretty well documented, single-source OS |
| 13:45.35 | Kalroth | jnwhiteh: Anyways, you'd need a very minimalistic OS, since you'll want full control over it - I can't recommend any though, since I've never needed a tiny OS myself :p |
| 13:45.51 | jnwhiteh | mitch0: i'm quite familiar wtih fbsd and I'm considering it on the list |
| 13:45.54 | jnwhiteh | Kalroth: aye, that's the challenge :P |
| 13:46.22 | Kalroth | smallest OS install I've done is a custom Linux kernel on a p75 with 16mb ram, so :p |
| 13:46.26 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: Just write your own. :P |
| 13:46.30 | Kalroth | It was 2.4 though! |
| 13:46.38 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 13:46.58 | mitch0 | 0.99pl15 :) |
| 13:47.02 | mitch0 | those were the days |
| 13:47.33 | krka | hm, does anyone know how the formatting %g decides between %f and %e? |
| 13:47.38 | mitch0 | 386sx25... all-night kernel compiles :) |
| 13:47.45 | krka | i cant figure it out, or find proper documentation |
| 13:47.47 | jnwhiteh | those were teh days |
| 13:47.57 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pettigrow * r1142 GridLocale-frFR.lua: frFR Update |
| 13:48.10 | nevcairiel | these days, try to install openoffice on gentoo, and you get a all-night compile too o.O |
| 13:48.32 | mitch0 | The argument is printed in style f (F) or in style e (E) whichever gives full precision in minimum space. |
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| 13:48.54 | mitch0 | krka: ^ |
| 13:48.57 | krka | hm |
| 13:49.05 | krka | full precision? |
| 13:49.47 | mitch0 | like, 0.01 will be %f, but 0.000000000000001 will be %e (1E-10 or so) |
| 13:49.49 | Repo | 10grid-mana-bars: 03Julith * r77 GridStatusMana.lua: GridManaBars: |
| 13:49.51 | Repo | - fixed "table index is nil" bug |
| 13:51.06 | Repo | 10grid-mana-bars: 03Julith * r78 GridManaBars.toc: GridManaBars:updated version in toc file |
| 13:51.26 | Repo | 10grid-mana-bars: 03Julith 04v0.87 * r79 : Tagging as v0.87 |
| 13:51.54 | krka | hm, i thought i could take the easy way out and just pick the smallest of %e an %f, but apparently that won't work, since %g uses precision as significant digits instead |
| 13:51.58 | doom0r | nevcairiel: f that, there's a reason they have a bin ebuild |
| 14:01.57 | waallen | Could anyone that is using PB4 check if the cast bars of the player and target frames are working correctly (e.g.: being properly filled with colors) when the player itself is targeted? |
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| 14:06.41 | Repo | 10grid-mana-bars: 03ananhaid * r80 / (2 files in 1 directory): GridManaBars: |
| 14:06.43 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
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| 14:17.37 | Repo | 10cooldown-to-go: 03mitch0 * r90 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 14:17.39 | Repo | allow initial alpha setting, and bigger size setting. See ticket-4 |
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| 14:23.15 | mitch0 | anyone would like to check if the r90 build of CooldownToGo works or not? :) |
| 14:23.28 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r32 Core.lua: |
| 14:23.29 | Kalroth | did you break it |
| 14:23.31 | Repo | Added some notes, tidied up, replaced all instances of HSK with HazLoot.Strategy |
| 14:23.47 | mitch0 | kalroth: dunno. no subscription presently, can't try ;) |
| 14:23.53 | mitch0 | but the changes are kinda innocent looking |
| 14:24.17 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r33 TestHazLoot.lua: Updated to match renamed BID_ to AUCTION_ in Core.lua |
| 14:24.56 | mitch0 | damn. "Fixed" tickets disappear from the list? |
| 14:25.19 | mitch0 | what should've been the state to "wait for user delight feedback"? |
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| 14:26.13 | sztanpet | i shall try in a sec |
| 14:26.21 | mitch0 | ah, here you are :) |
| 14:26.27 | Kalroth | We use "Developer broke it, can Q&A confirm" for that here, mitch0 |
| 14:27.05 | mitch0 | sztanpet: it should fix your ticket-4 :) |
| 14:27.17 | sztanpet | cheers :D |
| 14:27.38 | mitch0 | sztanpet: the alpha setting is combined into the color selector |
| 14:28.00 | sztanpet | yea, that makes more sense |
| 14:28.15 | mitch0 | your other 2 tickets are a bit harder to do though... |
| 14:28.29 | mitch0 | especially the "grace period" one. I don't really see what you'd like to see there |
| 14:28.57 | mitch0 | the other one I can understandm, but that's a bitch to implement properly... |
| 14:29.17 | mitch0 | (or at least I haven't found the proper way yet ;) |
| 14:29.51 | sztanpet | when i press a spell thats on a cooldown rapidly the icon stays on the screen |
| 14:30.01 | mitch0 | yes, that's intended |
| 14:30.05 | sztanpet | i thought the grace period is there to avoid that, it might not be |
| 14:30.20 | mitch0 | no, it's there to give you some time to _stop_ pressing that button ;) |
| 14:30.57 | mitch0 | as I said in the comment to that ticket, you should probably just put that given spell on the ignore list and never get notified about that at all |
| 14:31.19 | mitch0 | (if you keep pressing anyway( |
| 14:31.26 | mitch0 | s/($/)/ |
| 14:31.56 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r153 / (3 files in 1 directory): - cdata missing close tag |
| 14:31.59 | Repo | - null item tolerance |
| 14:32.30 | sztanpet | nah, i want to know the cd on it, but i know it will finish soon, so i just spam it |
| 14:32.40 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.2.14 * r154 : Tagging as 2.2.14 |
| 14:32.53 | sztanpet | and i get no errors with r90 |
| 14:33.22 | sztanpet | btw, i saw some errors on my hunter casting revive pet in combat but couldnt reproduce it |
| 14:33.38 | sztanpet | no idea what that was, but gave me a nil error |
| 14:33.44 | mitch0 | hm |
| 14:33.46 | sztanpet | to some function |
| 14:34.05 | mitch0 | would be hard to track down for me given that 1) I have no hunter and 2) I have no subscription :) |
| 14:34.33 | doom0r | my pet just solo'd a paladin while i killed a druid |
| 14:34.34 | doom0r | gg |
| 14:34.41 | sztanpet | yea, i couldnt reproduce it either so doesnt matter anyway |
| 14:34.59 | mitch0 | doom0r: stop being a big kid on the enemy starting zones? :) |
| 14:35.44 | doom0r | i'm not, druid got me while a was afk in tanaris, came back, killed him, then a paladin attacked my pet and druid rez'd again |
| 14:35.48 | doom0r | ; |
| 14:36.58 | mitch0 | sztanpet: regarding your other ticket (displaying cooldown even if you just activated the ability once): |
| 14:38.10 | mitch0 | I can only do that sanely if I start tracking all running cooldowns, and displaying them when they come about (think a dynamic vertical list that expands if I need to show more then one cooldown) |
| 14:38.34 | mitch0 | and that's a lot more complicated than how things are now |
| 14:38.58 | mitch0 | altough it could potentially be useful, but there are a lot of other cooldown mods that do this sort of thing |
| 14:39.06 | Grum | mitch0: how can you code addons without a subscription? :D ... its bad to pushdrycoded stuff ;) |
| 14:39.08 | sztanpet | have cdtg remember which spells i pressed more then once, and than track those only |
| 14:39.29 | mitch0 | sztanpet: yeah, but that's a half-arsed solution ;) |
| 14:39.38 | sztanpet | meh, its good enough |
| 14:40.28 | mitch0 | it would be better if there was a way to find out at cast time wether the spell/ability does have a cooldown or not |
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| 14:40.56 | mitch0 | unfortunately at that time a GCD cooldown is fired for all stuff, regardless of having a meaningful "real" cooldown or not |
| 14:41.11 | mitch0 | grum: :) |
| 14:41.25 | Grum | did you stop playing or just ran out of prepaid time? ;) |
| 14:41.34 | mitch0 | I kinda stopped playing |
| 14:41.46 | Grum | or did you dog eat the homew^Hcreditcard |
| 14:41.48 | mitch0 | planned to return with wotlk, but then nethack took my time |
| 14:41.55 | Grum | nethack? hehe |
| 14:42.10 | Xinhuan | wrath is worth playing |
| 14:42.13 | Xinhuan | if only just for the lore |
| 14:42.23 | mitch0 | almost ascended 2 weeks ago, but made a fatal mistake on the plain of water :) |
| 14:42.24 | Xinhuan | every zone/quest is tied to arthas lore |
| 14:43.02 | mitch0 | yeah, I heard good praise about wotlk, I just can't find the time to play really. for 2-3 hours per month it's not really worth to subscribe again |
| 14:43.17 | Grum | 2-3 hours per month? |
| 14:43.25 | Grum | wth is your gf/wife demanding of you? |
| 14:43.25 | mitch0 | about that, yeah :)_ |
| 14:43.30 | mitch0 | 3 kids... |
| 14:43.40 | Grum | make chars for them too |
| 14:43.43 | Grum | let them farm ore! |
| 14:43.47 | mitch0 | :) |
| 14:43.47 | Grum | make it a weekend activity! |
| 14:44.21 | Grum | 'if you dont get 25 stacks of ore you do not get dinner!' .. works in theory |
| 14:44.27 | mitch0 | ;) |
| 14:44.30 | ckknight | let them farm ore? |
| 14:44.37 | ckknight | what the hell are you talking about? |
| 14:44.37 | Grum | yes ore :P |
| 14:44.41 | ckknight | make them farm ore! |
| 14:44.56 | Grum | nono; you have to use 'let' else the wife gets angry |
| 14:45.06 | ckknight | make her farm ore, too |
| 14:45.09 | Grum | and then eat you and kittens die |
| 14:45.13 | mitch0 | wife gets angry anyway, so this won't work ;) |
| 14:45.20 | mitch0 | she just hates games |
| 14:45.29 | Grum | give her an account and tell her about pets |
| 14:45.29 | ckknight | blah |
| 14:45.32 | ckknight | why? |
| 14:45.42 | doom0r | cause she's not having fun |
| 14:45.53 | Grum | they buy her a vibrato |
| 14:46.04 | Grum | +r .. + batteries for life |
| 14:46.31 | CrazyBenny | you know any addon, that uses AceGUI, so I could check it for some inspiration?:) |
| 14:46.48 | Grum | what kind of inspiration are you looking for? :) |
| 14:48.00 | CrazyBenny | anything really, what I wanna do is a frame with a scroll frame and couple of checkboxes |
| 14:49.39 | CrazyBenny | oh well, I guess I'll just go with the sourcefiles of acegui |
| 14:50.17 | Xinhuan | if you're going to use acegui, i'll suggest using ace option tables to do it |
| 14:50.28 | Grum | he just wants to use the widgets |
| 14:50.30 | Grum | so it seems |
| 14:50.46 | Xinhuan | rather than blundering around in acegui code - because there isn't any documentation on how to use them lol |
| 14:51.42 | nevcairiel | acegui is really easy to use, the tests dir in the ace3 svn has some examples |
| 14:51.49 | CrazyBenny | aah, cheers |
| 14:52.25 | Xinhuan | that's very obscure nevcairiel, because nobody even knows those exists, and will only be able to get them by checking out via svn |
| 14:52.32 | Xinhuan | they aren't even included in the ace3 zips |
| 14:52.58 | Xinhuan | (hint hint, documentation please?) |
| 14:53.16 | nevcairiel | write some? |
| 14:53.16 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 14:53.34 | Xinhuan | i don't know how to use them ;p |
| 14:53.45 | nevcairiel | acegui is very low priority on documenting, since most people don't even want to use it directly |
| 14:53.48 | Xinhuan | i think you and narg are the only 2 tat know |
| 14:53.52 | doom0r | http://old.wowace.com/wiki/AceGUI_for_Ace_3.x |
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| 14:54.23 | Grum | CrazyBenny: what will you be using the gui for btw? |
| 14:54.51 | Xinhuan | doom0r, i loled at the DISCLAIMER |
| 14:54.52 | Xinhuan | on top |
| 14:55.07 | ckknight | I should go to work |
| 14:55.10 | ckknight | big day today |
| 14:55.15 | ckknight | but I'm comfy here |
| 14:55.20 | ckknight | what a conundrum |
| 14:55.34 | sztanpet | do they still pay you if you dont? |
| 14:55.52 | Grum | ckknight: why is it a big day? :) |
| 14:55.53 | Kalroth | You assume ckknight gets paid for showing up at work |
| 14:56.13 | Grum | he gets paid for not showing up @ work |
| 14:56.31 | CrazyBenny | Grum: it will prolly end up in sort of dkp table, as I dotn really like any of those I found, and I'm bored :P |
| 14:56.35 | Kalroth | "Here's $50, now don't come again" |
| 14:56.43 | ckknight | Grum: DB move |
| 14:56.55 | ckknight | sztanpet: I still have to work the same amount of time, just stay later |
| 14:56.59 | Grum | i hope you tested it ;) |
| 14:57.01 | Xinhuan | ckknight will accept a donation of $100 so that he won't go to work |
| 14:57.12 | Grum | do you also accept kittens? |
| 14:57.17 | ckknight | ...yes |
| 14:57.25 | Grum | alive ones as well? |
| 14:57.27 | sztanpet | my mom has dozens |
| 14:57.49 | Grum | i want a new kitten :( |
| 14:57.52 | Grum | our current ones are too big |
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| 14:59.13 | Grum | and there is Fisker- ... :'( |
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| 15:01.11 | ckknight | relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPMvMfehGiw |
| 15:04.52 | Fisker- | why hi Grum ? |
| 15:05.08 | Fisker- | Wanna make out Grum ? |
| 15:05.17 | Grum | only if i can tape it |
| 15:06.00 | Arrowmaster | oh god i cant keep reading this VN, i have to keep alt tabbing away from it and stoping because i cant stop laughing |
| 15:06.19 | Grum | VN? url? |
| 15:06.35 | Arrowmaster | visual novel |
| 15:06.51 | Grum | hmmm havent heard from that |
| 15:07.40 | Arrowmaster | japanese computer games, usually with an adult only rating |
| 15:07.51 | Grum | url/name? |
| 15:08.16 | Arrowmaster | Wanko to Kurasou is the one im reading now |
| 15:09.15 | Grum | mmm windows only? |
| 15:09.50 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 15:11.41 | Grum | i can only easily find the translation patch mmmm |
| 15:11.57 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 15:12.05 | Arrowmaster | was a bitch to find the iso |
| 15:12.30 | Grum | prolly a torrent lurking about somewhere |
| 15:12.39 | Arrowmaster | yeah got it from datorrents.com i think |
| 15:15.10 | ulic | ckknight: one of my users is trying to update translations but not getting any save buttons. Any ideas? I have a screenshot of what he's seeing if that might help. |
| 15:15.40 | sztanpet | you might want to repeat that when hes here |
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| 15:15.59 | Chosi | i totally loled |
| 15:15.59 | Chosi | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1232376958332.jpg |
| 15:16.06 | ulic | oh, you're right, hehe I saw him talk, but didn't even notice the next line was a disconnect :) |
| 15:16.13 | Xinhuan | grum, big kittens aren't kittens ;p |
| 15:16.22 | Grum | Xinhuan: they are :'( |
| 15:16.29 | Xinhuan | i call them... cats |
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| 15:17.50 | Grum | http://dl.dwim.org/~ebroes/Beer.jpg <-- kitten!1 |
| 15:18.12 | sacarasc | Little big to be a kitten |
| 15:18.16 | ulic | ckknight: one of my users is trying to update translations but not getting any save buttons. Any ideas? I have a screenshot of what he's seeing if that might help. |
| 15:18.53 | Grum | stop calling it fat sacarasc! |
| 15:19.24 | ckknight | looks more like a cat to me |
| 15:19.26 | ckknight | ulic: they're not logged in. I'll put a message in. |
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| 15:20.09 | ulic | I can't see the top of the website to verify or deny that in his screenshot, but I'll make sure to mention that. |
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| 15:27.55 | Fisker- | prints out the text ckknight and faps to it |
| 15:27.56 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 15:28.19 | ckknight | ... |
| 15:28.54 | Grum | Fisker-: dont hit him in the i |
| 15:28.58 | Grum | he still has to be able to see |
| 15:29.14 | ausmara | ckknight, is Pitbull 4 close to being usable? |
| 15:29.16 | Fisker- | oops! |
| 15:29.33 | Gnarfoz | anyone know if there is a way to get the product key used to install a copy of MS Office 2007 like you can with Windows's product key? |
| 15:29.43 | ckknight | ausmara: you can use it now if you don't raid |
| 15:29.59 | Grum | no raidframes yet? :) |
| 15:30.03 | ckknight | no, not yet |
| 15:30.16 | syeren | You mean it's usable in raid, but doesn't offer frames? |
| 15:30.21 | syeren | Or it blows up when you're in a raid? |
| 15:30.25 | harl | how comes that Cartographer_POI just started to prevent me from cancel any quest, though it did work yesterday and i didn't update anything.. |
| 15:30.27 | ckknight | in raid, use Grid |
| 15:30.27 | ckknight | :P |
| 15:30.34 | syeren | Yeah, I do already. |
| 15:30.34 | ckknight | since PB4 won't give you frames |
| 15:30.41 | ckknight | then no issue |
| 15:30.43 | ckknight | :P |
| 15:30.48 | SunTsu | .o0( This is my setup with PB3 right now ) |
| 15:30.49 | syeren | Awesome, I'll start trying it out. |
| 15:31.14 | syeren | Is it just like PB3 config wise? |
| 15:31.15 | ckknight | yea, it's fine, I'm not going to be like "You _have_ to use PitBull for everything, mwahaha" |
| 15:31.26 | ckknight | sometimes you want to do your own thing |
| 15:31.31 | ckknight | syeren: no, not at all |
| 15:31.37 | ckknight | syeren: config is quite different |
| 15:31.45 | syeren | Well I wasn't some idiot who didn't know how to make the frames do simple shit :p |
| 15:31.49 | syeren | Will I have any problems? |
| 15:32.04 | ckknight | you should be able to manage through it far faster and easier |
| 15:32.11 | syeren | Cool cool. |
| 15:32.21 | ckknight | and I'm very open to suggestions about it |
| 15:32.39 | syeren | As long as it has the super aura system / filter from PB3! |
| 15:32.41 | syeren | That was amazing! |
| 15:32.54 | ckknight | the aura system is a complete rewrite |
| 15:32.59 | ckknight | by Shefki |
| 15:33.06 | syeren | Are you still able to define which auras display on the target? |
| 15:33.06 | ckknight | I'm not 100% sure whether filtering is in yet |
| 15:33.10 | syeren | Like Debuff / Buff. |
| 15:33.14 | ckknight | you'll have to check |
| 15:33.16 | syeren | Because that was amazing in every respect :p |
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| 15:35.19 | ckknight | site's going down in 25 minutes |
| 15:35.28 | onaforeignshore | for how long? |
| 15:35.35 | Repo | 10talented_data: 03jerry * r188 Talented_GatherData/scripts/luadbc (4 files in 1 directory): Add C module to read DBC files. |
| 15:36.04 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: I'm gonna say "a few hours" to be on the safe side |
| 15:36.45 | Xinhuan | ckknight, you know the addon categories, should add them to the Projects sub-nav bar as a menu or something |
| 15:37.03 | onaforeignshore | ckknight: both wowace and curse going down? |
| 15:37.03 | Xinhuan | particularly atm, there is no way of eaching the "abandoned projects" category |
| 15:37.10 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: wowace and curseforge |
| 15:37.11 | Xinhuan | without knowing the direct URL to it |
| 15:37.17 | ckknight | Xinhuan: that's not a category |
| 15:37.17 | Xinhuan | reaching* |
| 15:37.25 | Xinhuan | well it behaves like one |
| 15:37.30 | ckknight | and I'm likely gonna get rid of abandoned projects |
| 15:37.32 | Xinhuan | like "Paladin" category |
| 15:37.35 | ckknight | just make it a filter to the project listing |
| 15:37.48 | ckknight | same with the categories themselves |
| 15:37.52 | ckknight | it's just a filter |
| 15:38.00 | Xinhuan | right |
| 15:38.26 | onaforeignshore | can you add Ace2 and Ace3 to the filters? I'm always looking to replace ace2 addons with ace3 versions / counterparts |
| 15:38.49 | Xinhuan | right now, users are saying they have difficulty finding abandoned projects |
| 15:39.06 | Xinhuan | since there's really no way to search them, or see a list of them until provided the URL to it |
| 15:39.16 | ckknight | no, onaforeignshore |
| 15:40.06 | Gnarfoz | so, already back up? |
| 15:40.06 | Dark_Elf | yeah get rid of abandoned lol |
| 15:40.25 | Xinhuan | and there's quite a lot of perfectly working "abandoned" projects |
| 15:41.18 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: moderators are having a problem with abandoned project finding too |
| 15:41.23 | CrazyBenny | yea, actually best way to find abandoned project is google |
| 15:41.27 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 15:41.34 | Xinhuan | thats why i'm highlighting it |
| 15:41.48 | Xinhuan | moderators are users too! :) |
| 15:41.55 | ckknight | they are? |
| 15:41.55 | ckknight | okay |
| 15:41.58 | ckknight | users should file tickets |
| 15:42.02 | ckknight | :P |
| 15:42.12 | Xinhuan | stabs ckknight with a pillow |
| 15:42.13 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: ckknight calls me a tool, not a user |
| 15:42.22 | Xinhuan | ok tool |
| 15:42.28 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:42.42 | AckisWork | back when I was in info sec, I had two IBM contractors who worked for me, I called them my IBM tools |
| 15:43.22 | ckknight | lol |
| 15:44.31 | Wraithan1 | Hmm author of ShockAndAwe still hasn't gotten back to me, I really don't want to piss him off by forking it but it looks I will have to |
| 15:44.50 | sacarasc | What would you fork it for? |
| 15:45.13 | Wraithan1 | I have fixed a couple of the bugs and added a couple features |
| 15:45.24 | Xinhuan | write your own |
| 15:45.29 | Xinhuan | call it SurpriseAndWonder |
| 15:45.54 | Wraithan1 | And would like to continue adding features from his todo list, but I don't want it to be in vain |
| 15:46.01 | onaforeignshore | DownAndUnder :p |
| 15:46.11 | onaforeignshore | TornAssunder |
| 15:46.11 | Xinhuan | whos the author |
| 15:46.33 | sacarasc | Pfft, call it I R SHAMANS |
| 15:47.41 | Wraithan1 | Pericles be has been working on his other projects, and even asked to see the code I had written, but hasn't gotten back to me in like a week |
| 15:47.59 | Wraithan1 | he is aka Levva on the EJ forums |
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| 15:50.55 | Dark_Elf | wonders if the new patch will be happening tomorrow |
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| 15:52.10 | CrazyBenny | they should rather fix the lags happening in the evening and making raids end after about hour |
| 15:54.24 | Gnarfoz | ~seen pericles |
| 15:54.28 | purl | pericles <n=Pericles@host86-148-44-4.range86-148.btcentralplus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 421d 1h 14m 34s ago, saying: 'then the firewall sees it as a request from that fixed IP'. |
| 15:57.48 | Gnarfoz | uhmmmmm :> |
| 15:57.51 | Gnarfoz | ~seen levva |
| 15:57.52 | purl | i haven't seen 'levva', Gnarfoz |
| 15:57.56 | Gnarfoz | k whatever |
| 15:59.24 | Trell- | is there any addon that can allow you to do more with the guild control interface? |
| 15:59.31 | Trell- | ie, add ranks without them appearing at the bottom for example |
| 15:59.53 | ulic | wouldn't that be wonderful. |
| 16:00.24 | ckknight | okay all, today's the big day, site's going down |
| 16:00.33 | ulic | I think that's the way blizzard made it, it always ads at the bottom |
| 16:00.36 | ulic | ckknight: w00t |
| 16:01.18 | Dark_Elf | oh joy the sites going down time to play wow lol |
| 16:01.52 | ckknight | lol |
| 16:01.53 | harl | i has found out that the addon "Dailies Quest Tracker" was the actual reason i couldn't cancel any quests. |
| 16:05.05 | Dark_Elf | shoot that mod uses quite a few older libraries, perhaps one of them is causing the problem |
| 16:05.11 | steev | harl: stop slacking and finish the quests |
| 16:05.45 | harl | what? |
| 16:05.49 | steev | YOU HEARD ME |
| 16:06.02 | steev | i couldn't cancel any quests |
| 16:06.22 | steev | but |
| 16:06.28 | steev | dailies quest tracker has other issues as well |
| 16:06.44 | steev | such as throwing an error if you accept a daily one day, and then finishing it the next |
| 16:07.07 | harl | i had to cancel a quest for nexus to be able to accept enother one for mezhen |
| 16:07.39 | steev | so, our ragtag guildish-type group downed patchwerk 10 man last night for the first time (first attempt as well) - wasn't very pretty but we did it |
| 16:08.10 | steev | resto druid and hunter were the only ones left standing heh |
| 16:08.17 | harl | ok |
| 16:08.38 | steev | harl: that wasn't specified to you |
| 16:08.50 | harl | yea. ok. just saying |
| 16:09.04 | Kuja^ | meh, patchwerk |
| 16:09.15 | steev | Kuja^: pretty much |
| 16:09.26 | steev | took us about 6 attempts for grobbulus |
| 16:09.28 | Kuja^ | kept getting the hatefuls yesterday, don't know what i actually did wrong there :o |
| 16:09.32 | steev | holy pally kept cleansing himselves |
| 16:09.40 | steev | -ves +f |
| 16:10.06 | harl | that's great |
| 16:10.22 | steev | he's... not the brightest |
| 16:10.52 | harl | go figure |
| 16:11.03 | steev | we would be saying on vent "tuco move, tuco move, tuco move your ass" |
| 16:11.14 | steev | "sorry, didn't notice it was on me" |
| 16:12.53 | steev | cracks me up sometimes |
| 16:13.10 | steev | "how come i die more than the priest when im wearing plate and hes wearing cloth" |
| 16:13.18 | steev | "cuz he's less nub" |
| 16:13.24 | steev | "fair enough" |
| 16:13.29 | harl | hear, hear! |
| 16:13.31 | Kuja^ | lol. |
| 16:13.43 | steev | tuco is my roommate :/ |
| 16:14.36 | steev | but |
| 16:14.47 | steev | he's not as bad as my gf's brother's guild's resto shaman |
| 16:14.54 | steev | so, thats something, i suppose |
| 16:15.37 | steev | "my bonus heal is 2100, how are people still dying" |
| 16:15.41 | steev | "you lack skill" |
| 16:15.45 | ckknight | lol |
| 16:15.55 | ckknight | it's not all about one's items |
| 16:15.59 | ckknight | although that is a major factor |
| 16:16.03 | ckknight | you have to use them properly |
| 16:16.05 | steev | tank goes down |
| 16:16.12 | steev | so i pick up tanking |
| 16:16.16 | steev | instead of healing me |
| 16:16.17 | ckknight | I like healing, personally, since it's basically mathematical masturbation for me |
| 16:16.19 | ckknight | :P |
| 16:16.26 | steev | he is continuing to throw heals on the tank (who is now a ghoul) |
| 16:16.30 | ckknight | ... |
| 16:16.33 | ckknight | wth |
| 16:16.39 | ckknight | use Banzai |
| 16:16.41 | ckknight | :P |
| 16:16.50 | ckknight | that way you can see who's being attacked |
| 16:16.53 | ckknight | at least |
| 16:16.58 | steev | ot totot |
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| 16:17.01 | steev | or* |
| 16:17.09 | steev | or tott whatever its called |
| 16:17.33 | ckknight | targettargettarget? |
| 16:17.34 | ulic | Banzai ftw! |
| 16:17.37 | ckknight | or targettarget? |
| 16:17.44 | steev | target of target's target |
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| 16:17.56 | ckknight | steev: that's totot |
| 16:18.29 | steev | also |
| 16:18.43 | steev | during the huge RW thats going off to STOP SPELLCASTING |
| 16:18.49 | steev | he's like, oh, i didn't know that meant me |
| 16:19.00 | steev | it was heroic uk ffs |
| 16:19.30 | steev | i only went because my gf's brother was asking me for pointers for how to tank |
| 16:20.00 | steev | he would start every pull by dg |
| 16:20.31 | steev | personally when its an aoe pull i like to use howling blast |
| 16:21.03 | steev | speaking of, on grobbulus i had an almost 9k hb crit |
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| 16:30.19 | Fisker- | why so awesome Chompers ? |
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| 16:36.23 | Trela | Nice. http://static.curseforge.net/base/images/helpercat.jpg |
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| 16:37.35 | ckknight | yep, Trell- |
| 16:37.37 | ckknight | trela* |
| 16:37.49 | Trela | :) |
| 16:38.07 | ckknight | we're doing a DB migration |
| 16:38.17 | Trela | is find new and interesting ways to freak AceConfig-3.0 out today! |
| 16:38.26 | Trela | New database software? |
| 16:38.30 | Trela | *finding |
| 16:38.40 | ckknight | switching from MySQL to PostgreSQL |
| 16:38.47 | Trela | I am also typing on a partially broken keyboard. |
| 16:38.50 | Trela | Ah. |
| 16:41.12 | Trela | http://ace.pastey.net/106615 - I thought normally AceConfig calls the function AddOnName:Get/UseFunction(). In this case I am staring at function CleanMinimap:GetUseSquare() and it can not find it. |
| 16:42.48 | ckknight | did you specify your handler? |
| 16:43.25 | SunTsu | ckknight: So, you finally decided to get a database for curse? ;) |
| 16:43.33 | ckknight | not curse |
| 16:43.36 | ckknight | curse â Â curseforge |
| 16:43.54 | SunTsu | s/curse/&forge/ ;) |
| 16:44.01 | Trela | This is probably some thing I was suppose to do, never did, and not sure what you mean. Sorry. |
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| 16:45.18 | ckknight | Trela: handler = CleanMinimap |
| 16:45.21 | ckknight | in your table |
| 16:45.39 | ckknight | SunTsu: this had better work, or we have to find some fucking way to deal with SQL Server |
| 16:45.43 | ckknight | ...goddammit |
| 16:45.46 | ckknight | and I don't wanna do that |
| 16:45.57 | Trela | MySQL too slow for you or some thing? |
| 16:46.34 | Trela | Oh, bah, that was an easy fix. Thank you, CK. :) *Sends kisses~* |
| 16:46.45 | Trela | I was even staring at it in the documentation. |
| 16:46.45 | ckknight | InnoDB has horrible locking issues |
| 16:47.19 | Trela | I forget what we use for MySQL at work. |
| 16:47.30 | Trela | All I know is that it keeps going. |
| 16:47.31 | ckknight | and we can't really afford to go back to MyISAM (we were using that before), since transactions are nice and so is ACID compliance and data integrity |
| 16:48.09 | SunTsu | ckknight: In my experience PGSQL performs quite well |
| 16:48.26 | ckknight | yep, in tests, it's run 40% faster |
| 16:48.30 | ckknight | but those aren't live |
| 16:48.34 | ckknight | just bullshit tests |
| 16:48.43 | ckknight | and frankly, I'd be fine if it were 50% slower |
| 16:48.52 | ckknight | as long as the DB doesn't lock |
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| 16:50.05 | ckknight | cause we just cannot have that |
| 16:51.33 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1232383853044.jpg <- ckknight |
| 16:51.33 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 16:52.07 | Trela | $100? :P |
| 16:52.17 | doom0r | srsly |
| 16:52.25 | Fisker- | fu |
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| 16:55.14 | pompy | ' |
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| 17:22.33 | EthanCentaurai | ~seen Parnic |
| 17:22.34 | purl | parnic <i=user@staff.xbins.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 16h 17m 20s ago, saying: 'is there a good place for feature requests to the site itself?'. |
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| 17:27.15 | ckknight | @project curseforge |
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| 17:27.33 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/. CurseForge.com. Kaelten (Manager/Author), ckknight (Author), Ackis (Ticket Manager). Updated: 279 days ago. Tickets: 207/1069 |
| 17:27.41 | ckknight | @project CurseForge |
| 17:27.42 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/. CurseForge.com. Kaelten (Manager/Author), ckknight (Author), Ackis (Ticket Manager). Updated: 279 days ago. Tickets: 207/1069 |
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| 17:28.43 | Pneumatus | wtf, the recount project doesnt allow comments OR use a ticket tracker |
| 17:28.52 | Pneumatus | well how fucking useful is that |
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| 17:29.06 | Trela | Why make things useful? :P |
| 17:29.07 | ckknight | if you think that policy is bullshit (I do, very much so), don't use it |
| 17:29.22 | ckknight | you're the consumer, claim your rights |
| 17:29.33 | amoeba | I just want to party. |
| 17:29.41 | Pneumatus | on wowace, the project should be using a bug tracker at the very least |
| 17:30.37 | AckisWork | just enables the comments, makes his comment and then turns them off again ;) |
| 17:30.41 | Pneumatus | well, there's a bug in the latest beta and nowhere to report it |
| 17:31.06 | Pneumatus | what alternatives are there to Recount these days? |
| 17:31.19 | doom0r | there's addon spam when you're near people |
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| 17:33.27 | AckisWork | @oung |
| 17:33.30 | AckisWork | @ping |
| 17:33.31 | Repo | pong |
| 17:33.50 | syeren | ckknight, first suggestion for pitbull4! |
| 17:34.08 | ckknight | file a ticket |
| 17:34.11 | AckisWork | oh he's had a lot of suggestions for it |
| 17:34.15 | syeren | zzzzz |
| 17:34.18 | syeren | Tickets are crap. |
| 17:34.22 | ckknight | okay |
| 17:34.23 | ckknight | then fuck you |
| 17:34.27 | ckknight | I don't need your suggestions |
| 17:34.30 | ckknight | you either man up or shut up |
| 17:34.41 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 17:34.42 | syeren | I suggested this for Pitbull 3 and you added it. |
| 17:34.43 | syeren | :> |
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| 17:34.49 | ckknight | so you can file a ticket |
| 17:35.06 | Trela | Ticket! |
| 17:35.07 | syeren | Nah, will wait until logic sets in for how to position things :> |
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| 17:35.43 | AckisWork | ~comfort ckknight |
| 17:35.43 | purl | There, there, ckknight. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 17:35.55 | AckisWork | http://www.wowace.com/paste/171/ <-- anyone able to review that real quickly and tell me if they see anything wrong? |
| 17:36.08 | nevcairiel | more obfuscated code? |
| 17:36.36 | AckisWork | of course |
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| 17:37.10 | amoeba | It needs more cowbell, Ackis. |
| 17:37.29 | quiescens | moo |
| 17:40.56 | amoeba | Ackis, what's it not doing right? |
| 17:41.17 | AckisWork | after opening it once, you can't scroll it for the second dump |
| 17:41.54 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/technology/ by Kaelten |
| 17:42.32 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/technology/ by Kaelten |
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| 17:43.17 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/technology/ by Kaelten |
| 17:43.21 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/downtime-monday-done/ |
| 17:43.33 | ckknight | (just testing) |
| 17:44.34 | syeren | Pitbull 4 is very nice upto now :> |
| 17:47.10 | doom0r | from now on, it sucks? |
| 17:48.00 | Jaxon | AckisWork: unobfuscating someone's hard work? :P |
| 17:48.18 | AckisWork | Jaxon: no, I copied and pasted from antiarc :) :P |
| 17:49.54 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/amidrt/. AmidRT. Finghin (Manager/Author). Approved by Kaelten. |
| 17:50.00 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/downtime-monday-done/ |
| 17:51.07 | gix | does anyone know any armory-tradeskill-guild-generator which includes cooking etc.? |
| 17:51.12 | syeren | Do I have to ticket bugs ckk or paste? |
| 17:51.23 | ckknight | I'm at work |
| 17:51.27 | ckknight | giving me a paste would be pointless |
| 17:51.31 | ckknight | tickets at least stay |
| 17:51.31 | syeren | This is a pretty big bug :< |
| 17:52.40 | amoeba | So make a pretty big ticket. |
| 17:52.48 | AckisWork | ticket with a paste |
| 17:53.16 | syeren | Now I need to work out how to add a text field without it breaking :< |
| 17:53.44 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r102 TestAlpha.lua: Blah! |
| 17:53.56 | Trela | Commit failed. o.o Out of date: '/trunk/.pkgmeta' in transaction '26-1' |
| 17:53.59 | Trela | Weird... |
| 17:54.36 | durcyn | sylvanaar: could you, uh, add LibStub to LibFail-1.0 so it doesn't explode standalone |
| 17:56.39 | Fisker- | eyeballs durcyn |
| 17:56.52 | Repo | 10cleanminimap: 03Azxiana * r27 / (3 files in 1 directory): Full port to Ace3 complete. |
| 17:56.55 | Repo | Added option to hide mail icon. |
| 17:56.57 | Repo | Fixed map ping location. |
| 17:57.00 | Repo | Partial clock fix, may still not show properly, but will not give error. |
| 17:57.12 | durcyn | stabs Fisker-'s eyeball |
| 17:57.17 | Fisker- | ouch |
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| 17:58.00 | noccy | Good afternoon, anyone that have got a minute to spare to share their madskills when it comes to AceHook-3.0? :) |
| 17:58.24 | Fisker- | Have a nice day at work cog|work :3 |
| 17:58.43 | cog|work | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...ooo.... oh alright |
| 17:59.35 | noccy | i'm trying, in my OnInitialize method, to hook SetItemRef in order to be able to create my own links in chat. |
| 17:59.51 | noccy | however, if i put the self:Hook() line in there, the addon silently fails to load. if i remove it and reload the UI it works again |
| 18:00.03 | ckknight | you sure you don't have any errors? |
| 18:00.27 | noccy | yup, looked three times now just to make sure |
| 18:00.57 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r103 TestAlpha.lua: Blah! |
| 18:01.30 | syeren | Hmm, this is quite troublesome ckk. |
| 18:01.35 | syeren | Would you suggest I /rl or? |
| 18:01.44 | ckknight | I'm busy at work |
| 18:01.44 | syeren | http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/tickets/121-name-edit-box/ |
| 18:01.47 | syeren | :< |
| 18:01.52 | ckknight | talk to me in 8 hours |
| 18:02.52 | noccy | for self:Hook("SetItemRef","OnLinkClicked"); am i supposed to call on self.hooks.SetItemRef or self.hooks.OnLinkClicked to call the original method? |
| 18:03.12 | syeren | Anyone able to suggest a totem addon which can be skinned and doesn't come with 497120401624016 'extras'? |
| 18:03.46 | ckknight | noccy: former |
| 18:03.55 | Trela | Case sensitive project search fail. Searching for "Fubar" brings back nothing. Searching for "FuBar" brings back results. |
| 18:04.13 | ckknight | Trela: hmm, okay |
| 18:04.25 | Trela | I am assuming it has some thing to do with the new database. |
| 18:04.37 | noccy | ckknight: okay, in OnEnable i have -> self:Hook("SetItemRef","OnLinkClicked"); |
| 18:04.45 | noccy | and my handler is defined as -> function DTracker:OnLinkClicked(link, text, button, ...) |
| 18:05.50 | noccy | with the self:Hook line in there, the addon fails to load somehow. commenting it out, and it loads fine. |
| 18:07.41 | ckknight | Trela: yea, postgresql is case-sensitive and I was doing LIKE instead of ILIKE |
| 18:08.00 | ckknight | Trela: fixed |
| 18:08.22 | renchap | ckknight: LIKE is bad. |
| 18:08.36 | ckknight | k |
| 18:08.41 | renchap | summons fulltext search |
| 18:08.45 | ckknight | yea, eventually we'll move to a proper search system |
| 18:08.46 | ckknight | but not now |
| 18:09.13 | renchap | now with postgres you can have one ;) (the fulltext search in mysql is ugly) |
| 18:09.42 | noccy | i quite like the mysql fulltext search ;) write it properly and you can combine natural language search with boolean search |
| 18:10.05 | renchap | noccy: do you use it with 4000 qps ? |
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| 18:11.36 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r157 / (2 files in 1 directory): - and a export plain text fix and enhancement |
| 18:11.37 | noccy | not sure what load the old site i worked for had, but if you make use of the query cache and fine tune it properly it should perform well:) never used postgres tho |
| 18:12.04 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.2.16 * r158 : Tagging as 2.2.16 |
| 18:12.24 | steev | ILIKEU |
| 18:12.49 | Trela | Cool, CK. |
| 18:15.00 | noccy | tried putting some debugging code in the OnEnable method, but it outputs nothing as long as the self:Hook line is in there :p this is getting confusing |
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| 18:16.54 | ckknight | noccy: you have an error, you're just not seeing it |
| 18:16.56 | ckknight | that's my guess |
| 18:17.06 | ckknight | what are you using to catch errors? |
| 18:18.08 | noccy | swatter |
| 18:18.36 | noccy | been looking for something better but haven't really found anything mentioned :) |
| 18:20.45 | syeren | WTB Bored developer with 5-10 minutes to kill :< |
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| 18:22.05 | syeren | Goddamnit. |
| 18:22.15 | syeren | Curse's search engine thing is horrible :/ |
| 18:22.30 | Trela | Always has been. I stab it multiple times, daily. :) |
| 18:22.38 | silentium | ~seen orionshock |
| 18:22.41 | purl | orionshock <n=chatzill@ip68-225-195-1.ph.ph.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 10h 19s ago, saying: '...'. |
| 18:22.49 | AckisWork | @ticket curseforge 360 |
| 18:22.51 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/360 - Search SUCKS. Reported by: ZealotOnAStick. Type: Defect. Updated: 12 days ago. Status: New. Priority: High. Assignee: ckknight. Votes: +6. Comments: 0 |
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| 18:23.12 | noccy | how do i handle the "..." in function args btw? missed that part of lua class ;) |
| 18:23.29 | ckknight | ~pil |
| 18:23.30 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 18:23.32 | ckknight | noccy: ^-- |
| 18:23.58 | ckknight | actually, if that's 5.0, then it won't be up to date |
| 18:24.00 | ckknight | in any event: |
| 18:24.10 | noccy | looked in there, but found nothing searching on "..." :) |
| 18:24.12 | AckisWork | see select() |
| 18:24.13 | ckknight | lua> local function zomg(...) print(...) end; zomg(1, 2, 3) |
| 18:24.13 | lua_bot | ckknight: 1, 2, 3 |
| 18:24.49 | ckknight | lua> local function zomg(...) print(select('#', ...)); print(select(3, ...)) end; zomg("a", "b", "c") |
| 18:24.49 | lua_bot | ckknight: 3, c |
| 18:24.59 | noccy | reason i'm asking is because lua.exe is complaining on this line -> return self.hooks.SetItemRef(link, text, button, ...); |
| 18:25.11 | ckknight | what's your lua version? |
| 18:25.25 | noccy | 5.0.2 |
| 18:25.28 | ckknight | upgrade to 5.1 |
| 18:25.33 | ckknight | syntax changed |
| 18:26.34 | noccy | thanks :) |
| 18:27.29 | Trela | My Logitech keyboard took its last beating. :( |
| 18:29.27 | noccy | think i got it sorted. what's the prefered way of catching bugs today? :) think swatter might be a bit old |
| 18:29.50 | steev | i use bugsack and buggrabber |
| 18:30.25 | Aeyan | I use tekErr |
| 18:33.13 | noccy | thanks :) |
| 18:33.51 | ulic | ckknight: I have a localization issue, via the website, can I tell you here or post a ticket? |
| 18:34.00 | ckknight | tell me here |
| 18:34.07 | ckknight | I'll tell you whether a ticket needs to be created or not |
| 18:34.22 | ulic | user reports "The manager has closed this localization system. If you wish to submit translations, speak with ulic." |
| 18:34.29 | ckknight | bah |
| 18:34.36 | ulic | I go into the localization setup, see the box checked |
| 18:34.45 | ckknight | what user and what project? |
| 18:34.46 | ulic | tried toggling and saving, go back in, it's still checked. |
| 18:34.55 | ckknight | also, is he trying to edit enUS? |
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| 18:35.05 | ulic | project little-wigs |
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| 18:35.19 | ckknight | ask him what link he's using |
| 18:35.38 | ulic | user Pettigrow |
| 18:36.00 | ulic | he usually does french stuff, so I assume that's where he was trying to work on stuff. |
| 18:36.28 | syeren | Could anyone give me any help updating http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9080-MacTotemTimer.html to work with WotLK? |
| 18:36.50 | syeren | I am fairly clueless about what I am looking for :/ |
| 18:37.19 | ulic | ckknight: it's a forum convo, so i'll post and hopefully he'll respond. |
| 18:37.47 | Pneumatus | i wish the runes on IceHUD wouldnt grey out when they are on cooldown as they look crappy :< |
| 18:37.49 | syeren | p3lim, wanting to buy pTotems. |
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| 18:43.17 | noccy | one more question; if i want to consume a hooked method call, how would i do that? |
| 18:43.28 | noccy | return true; ? |
| 18:43.43 | ckknight | consume? |
| 18:43.49 | ckknight | well, you'd just return |
| 18:43.52 | ckknight | rather than calling the hook |
| 18:44.17 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r1870 Locales/constants.en.lua: - Small cleanup |
| 18:44.31 | noccy | i did, but somehow it threw me -> ItemRefTooltip:SetHyperlink(): Unknown link type |
| 18:47.45 | noccy | and that's even tho i had a return statement in the chunk to check if it was my own magic link type, and my link handling function fired :) |
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| 18:48.20 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-3-0: 03jlam * r36 LibHealComm-3.0.lua: Paladin updates from cremor: |
| 18:48.22 | Repo | - Drop Blessing of Light and Greater Blessing of Light, which have been removed in WotLK. |
| 18:48.26 | Repo | - Detect effects of the self-buffs Divine Plea and Avenging Wrath. |
| 18:48.30 | Repo | - In WotLK, the bonus healing effects have been increased by 25% for Flash of Light and Holy Light. |
| 18:48.33 | Thrae | ckknight: That's fine, but you never admitted it at the time ;) |
| 18:48.44 | Zhinjio | G'mornin' |
| 18:48.51 | ckknight | Thrae: what is this regarding? |
| 18:48.54 | ckknight | hey Zhinjio |
| 18:49.02 | Thrae | Ohoo, I didn't pass the 24-hour mark of responding to something in my hilight logs. |
| 18:49.35 | Thrae | ckknight: 19:58 #wowace: <@ckknight:#wowace> CowTip: Stole from TinyTip and some others |
| 18:50.00 | Thrae | Now if you pass the 24-hour mark, it's confusing, otherwise it's funny. |
| 18:50.00 | ckknight | Thrae: I stole ideas, not code |
| 18:50.14 | ckknight | I did the text display totally different |
| 18:50.26 | ckknight | and I took ideas from other addons as well |
| 18:50.40 | ckknight | I'm just saying, I'm not big on originality |
| 18:51.18 | Thrae | ckknight: Never said you stole code, but you were probably messing with me at that time when you said TinyTip wasn't used at all ;) |
| 18:51.33 | ckknight | it's possible |
| 18:51.35 | ckknight | I don't remember. |
| 18:51.47 | ckknight | in any event, the past is the past, whatever that means |
| 18:52.03 | Thrae | It's mostly public domain so it doesn't matter. |
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| 18:53.37 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r144 Coconuts.lua: Coconuts: |
| 18:53.39 | Repo | - Add back in Temple of Ahn'Qiraj tests |
| 18:55.30 | Gnarfoz | bigwigs question: version check shows me as having 4896, while I'm using 4910 - :\ |
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| 18:56.18 | pentium166 | @project coconuts |
| 18:56.20 | Repo | pentium166: http://www.wowace.com/projects/coconuts/. Coconuts. Game: WoW. LordFarlander (Manager/Author). Updated: 2 minutes ago. Tickets: 5/21 |
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| 18:59.46 | ulic | Gnarfoz: don't quote me on this, but as I recall, the value that looks up only changes if the file was changed and part of a checkin. |
| 19:00.41 | noccy | ckknight: okay, quick last question before i'm off to sort food and servers out; |
| 19:00.48 | ckknight | shoot |
| 19:00.49 | noccy | return self.hooks.SetItemRef(link, text, button, ...); <- that line doesn't actually spawn a tooltip |
| 19:01.00 | noccy | i see the auctioneer additional tooltip pop up and disappear, but that's it |
| 19:01.05 | ckknight | paste your code? |
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| 19:01.21 | *** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> wowace.com | paste.wowace.com | lua.org | .15 Mac tinyurl.com/8pr7u7 || 2.0.1.0.RC1 tinyurl.com/5l6cfz | Username: wowace.com/request-name-change/ |
| 19:01.29 | noccy | http://wowace.pastebin.com/d6ddc47d1 |
| 19:02.01 | ckknight | do you get the print statement |
| 19:02.01 | ckknight | ? |
| 19:02.07 | noccy | yup |
| 19:02.15 | ckknight | odd |
| 19:02.17 | ckknight | seems right |
| 19:02.28 | noccy | and no errors. clicking on one of my links however raises the same error as before; ItemRefTooltip:SetHyperlink(): Unknown link type |
| 19:02.30 | Gnarfoz | ulic: yeah, I figured as much. new wowace .toc shenanigans would probably allow that to be overcome, though |
| 19:02.32 | ulic | not that it matters, but wowace has it's own nifty pastey tool too, http://www.wowace.com/paste/ |
| 19:04.13 | noccy | http://wowace.pastebin.com/d66a208f8 - stack for the error |
| 19:04.21 | noccy | ulic: good to know, ty :) will keep that in mind |
| 19:05.15 | noccy | that error occurs when a "defcon" link is clicked, the call works tho. when an item link is clicked, no tip appears however. |
| 19:08.28 | p3lim | syeren: huh? |
| 19:08.45 | p3lim | i dont play a shaman, why would I care to create an addon for totems? |
| 19:08.51 | noccy | any ideas? |
| 19:09.01 | syeren | Because you make nice and simple addons! |
| 19:10.30 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r142 / (3 files in 2 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 19:10.32 | Repo | - PetAndMountDatabase-2.0: Added back in Temple of Ahn'Qiraj category |
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| 19:13.28 | AckisWork | @kill lordfarlander |
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| 19:13.31 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 19:13.43 | AckisWork | damn didn't work |
| 19:13.46 | AckisWork | @kill Tekkub |
| 19:14.27 | AckisWork | didn't work either |
| 19:18.42 | Megalon | you have to send Fisker- after them |
| 19:18.50 | Megalon | that's way worse then killing |
| 19:19.02 | Repo | 10calendar_broker: 03LordFarlander * r23 CoreCalendar.lua: Calendar_Broker: |
| 19:19.04 | Repo | - GEM3 support fixes |
| 19:19.24 | Repo | 10auto-bar-test: 03Azethoth * r33 Core.lua: -- Pre 3.0.8 checkin |
| 19:19.37 | ckknight | AckisWork: are you trying to abuse Repo? |
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| 19:23.33 | ulic | ckknight: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=5564&page=53 the first (probablys still only) post on this page, shows the links and what the user is seeing. |
| 19:24.21 | ulic | releated to the translations issue. |
| 19:25.05 | ckknight | okay |
| 19:25.08 | ckknight | this is odd |
| 19:26.25 | noccy | foodtime. thanks for the help and the patience :) |
| 19:26.31 | noccy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:28.02 | Trela | Does packager Status: Sleeping mean is it suspended completely? |
| 19:28.12 | ckknight | no |
| 19:28.14 | ckknight | it's sleeping |
| 19:28.17 | ckknight | let it rest |
| 19:28.20 | ulic | ckknight: I excel at odd. |
| 19:28.29 | Chompers | it needs a good dinner and some tv |
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| 19:33.57 | Trela | gives the packager dinner and a movie. |
| 19:34.06 | Trela | I was asking since I was waiting for my AddOns to package. |
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| 19:35.40 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r38 Core.lua: |
| 19:35.43 | Repo | Refactored ShowMeLoot to take an argument - makes it easier to mock and test |
| 19:37.34 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r39 WoWMock.lua: |
| 19:37.36 | Trela | Should be r79 http://www.wowace.com/projects/flag-rsp2/files/ and r27 http://www.wowace.com/projects/cleanminimap/files/ |
| 19:37.37 | Repo | Data changes, got rid of extra spaces, added a big bag of test loot for testing the loot order comparator |
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| 19:40.07 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r40 HazLootList.lua: (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 19:40.09 | Repo | Tided up roles and restrictions |
| 19:40.12 | Repo | Fixed IsTierPiece() |
| 19:40.14 | Repo | Tried to make sure that it's not possible to have an empty role table |
| 19:40.16 | Repo | Fixed the OrderComparator so it works properly now |
| 19:41.09 | Trela | Okay, packager just hates me. :P |
| 19:43.57 | Repo | 10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana * r80 flagRSP2.toc: Incremented version for recent fix. |
| 19:44.20 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r41 / (2 files in 1 directory): Updated tests |
| 19:44.42 | Trela | That is screwy, I had to make a fake commit to get packager to run. |
| 19:47.16 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r42 TestHazLoot.lua: |
| 19:47.18 | Repo | Added corpse-opening and -closing tests, which work, unlike the in-game code. So |
| 19:47.21 | Repo | I need to figure out how to mock that better. |
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| 19:51.03 | Repo | 10cleanminimap: 03Azxiana * r28 CleanMinimap.toc: (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 19:51.05 | Repo | We're no strangers to subversion, you know the repo and so do I! |
| 19:51.08 | Repo | A full commit is what I'm thinking of. |
| 19:51.10 | Repo | You wouldn't get this from any other release. |
| 19:51.13 | Repo | I just wanna tell you how I'm reverting |
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| 19:51.57 | Trela | SVN Roll. :D |
| 19:52.15 | ckknight | ...lol |
| 19:52.55 | Trela | I should have finished the entire song. |
| 19:53.04 | Kaelten | lmao |
| 19:55.38 | Repo | 10talented_data: 03jerry * r189 Talented_GatherData/scripts/luadbc/dbc_info.lua: update dbc info to latest PTR build |
| 19:56.53 | Trela | I need to make a SkyNet like device that fends people off bothering me to switch to Data Broker. |
| 19:57.16 | AckisWork | Trela: switch to data broker please |
| 19:57.37 | Trela | <SkyNet> *Sends a terminator puppy after Ackis.* |
| 19:57.50 | AckisWork | I'm immune to puppies |
| 19:57.58 | Trela | Ones that shoot lasers. |
| 19:57.58 | AckisWork | mine bit me on the nose on the weekend and drew blood lol |
| 19:59.08 | Dashkal | ~wowalert |
| 19:59.09 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 19:59.28 | Fisker- | hey AckisWork |
| 19:59.50 | AckisWork | hi Fisker- |
| 19:59.52 | AckisWork | i love you |
| 20:00.20 | Fisker- | no |
| 20:00.22 | Fisker- | i love you |
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| 20:02.34 | AckisWork | aww |
| 20:04.21 | Repo | 10guilder: 03onaforeignshore 07master * 1.0.3-3-gda628f4 / (17 files in 5 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 20:04.23 | Repo | da628f4: o removed dummy function at end of each file |
| 20:04.26 | Repo | acaa3b6: o Fixed the luadoc entries for files |
| 20:04.29 | Repo | 6e6edc7: removed superfluous lib.xml |
| 20:10.51 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r1871 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update |
| 20:11.13 | Repo | 10guilder: 03onaforeignshore 07master * 1.0.4-1-gf4d92cb .docmeta: [+1 commit] o learning to use luadoc correctly |
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| 20:13.17 | Kaelten | ok I need someone to test something for me really fast in the beta |
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| 20:15.01 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r43 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 20:15.04 | Repo | Renamed ConfirmWinner to just Confirm, to avoid confusion with Set/GetWinner |
| 20:15.06 | Repo | Added an actual greens, a recipe and a quest item to the mock |
| 20:15.27 | onaforeignshore | AAAARRRGGH! |
| 20:15.34 | onaforeignshore | I hate luadoc :p |
| 20:15.45 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r44 embeds.xml: Removed redundant lines |
| 20:18.27 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: maybe you just fail? |
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| 20:19.48 | ckknight | :P |
| 20:20.08 | onaforeignshore | ckknight: highly possible |
| 20:22.42 | gix | fucking hell. 5:07 malygos ;( |
| 20:23.09 | pb_ee1 | Hey guys, is there a way in the latest version of Grid to add your group in any layout (for example layotu by class w/pets)? |
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| 20:23.45 | Repo | 10guilder: 03onaforeignshore 07master * 1.0.4-2-gd47a788 .docmeta: [+1 commit] attempt number 2 :p |
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| 20:24.40 | ckknight | @project guilder |
| 20:24.42 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/guilder/. Guilder. Game: WoW. onaforeignshore (Manager/Author). Updated: 36 seconds ago |
| 20:25.13 | ckknight | wth |
| 20:25.18 | ckknight | lemme check out your repo |
| 20:25.42 | AKX | Completely off-topic, but http://europe1.naurunappula.com/nn/0/253/034/469030.jpg |
| 20:26.07 | Trela | Hahaha |
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| 20:29.50 | fauxpas``` | alright, stupid question .. my loot windows always shows up as the one you normally only get when there is more than 1 "page" of items and it doesn't actually SHOW the items, i only get the tooltip |
| 20:30.09 | fauxpas``` | anyone got a clue? as fas as i remember i don't use an addon that is supposed to change the loot frame |
| 20:30.23 | sylvanaar | doesnt have a clue |
| 20:30.32 | fauxpas``` | moreover, i can't "interact" with the items |
| 20:30.39 | fauxpas``` | e.g. i can only loot my emblems with autoloot |
| 20:30.57 | onaforeignshore | I just use XLoot - much easier |
| 20:31.19 | fauxpas``` | well, i always thought of xloot to be redundant |
| 20:31.27 | fauxpas``` | i use teksloot for better roll-frames |
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| 20:32.02 | Guest85128 | Ñ
ай вÑем |
| 20:32.19 | fauxpas``` | yay unicode |
| 20:32.19 | Guest85128 | h1 all |
| 20:32.19 | onaforeignshore | I like its group and master extentions - allows you to announce a roll in a raid, and monitors rolls for you |
| 20:32.22 | onaforeignshore | <- is lazy |
| 20:32.33 | fauxpas``` | but i dont need that :( |
| 20:33.07 | Aeyan | Phatloot |
| 20:33.20 | Aeyan | It's xloot, but just for the normal loot frame |
| 20:33.29 | Hocok | we |
| 20:33.31 | Hocok | game |
| 20:33.34 | Hocok | wow |
| 20:33.35 | Hocok | ? |
| 20:33.36 | Aeyan | Or, you can try to debug that error you're having =P |
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| 20:34.00 | onaforeignshore | I use xloot for normal frame, and xloot monitor / group to replace the need/greed/pass window |
| 20:34.23 | fauxpas``` | Aeyan: and how do i do that? ;) |
| 20:34.41 | Aeyan | Dunno |
| 20:34.43 | Hocok | кÑÐ¾Ñ |
| 20:34.45 | Hocok | ) |
| 20:34.47 | Aeyan | I'd start with the blizzard repair tool |
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| 20:34.54 | Hocok | кÑо Ð³Ð°Ð¼Ð°ÐµÑ Ð² вов 2.4.3 |
| 20:34.57 | Hocok | ? |
| 20:35.03 | ckknight | Hocok: this is an English-speaking channel, not Russian |
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| 20:35.10 | Hocok | =) |
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| 20:35.15 | Hocok | I |
| 20:35.20 | Hocok | bed speak |
| 20:35.24 | Hocok | english |
| 20:35.26 | Hocok | ) |
| 20:36.10 | Repo | 10guilder: 03onaforeignshore 07master * 1.0.4-3-g68c6ecb .docmeta: [+1 commit] luadoc the third |
| 20:36.28 | Hocok | Do you speak Russion????????? |
| 20:36.32 | ckknight | no |
| 20:36.37 | Hocok | ( |
| 20:36.51 | Hocok | very bed |
| 20:36.56 | Chosi | ;D |
| 20:37.06 | fauxpas``` | ok, so i just narrowed it down to "a couple of addons" that could cause it :D |
| 20:37.39 | Hocok | m.... |
| 20:40.17 | Hocok | Go>>> logon.warkeeper.net |
| 20:43.29 | Repo | 10grid-status-res: 03Azethoth * r46 GridStatusResLocal-ruRU.lua: -- Fix enUS --> ruRU |
| 20:43.37 | fauxpas``` | so it's either elkanos frames resized or engravings ;P |
| 20:44.04 | Hocok | wow 3.0.3 lich king? |
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| 20:45.40 | ckknight | @project documenter |
| 20:45.41 | Repo | ckknight: No project found that matches 'documenter' |
| 20:45.47 | ckknight | @project curseforge-documenter |
| 20:45.49 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge-documenter/. CurseForge Documenter. ckknight (Manager/Author). Updated: 32 days ago |
| 20:45.50 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: ^-- |
| 20:45.57 | onaforeignshore | ty |
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| 20:46.21 | chiper | hmm, xloot-group. this is new to me |
| 20:46.46 | onaforeignshore | it replaces the need/greed/pass frame |
| 20:46.57 | chiper | *nod* I think I may install this |
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| 20:47.29 | chiper | no more screen-full-of-loot issues |
| 20:47.37 | Hocok | а-a б-b в-v г-g д-d е-e ж-j 3-z и-i к-k л-l Ð-n о-o п-p Ñ-r Ñ-c Ñ-t Ñ-y Ñ-f Ñ
-x Ñ- Ñ- Ñ- Ñ-I |
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| 20:48.03 | onaforeignshore | add xloot-monitor and you have even less screen-full issues |
| 20:48.13 | genetik- | chiper: I've been using teksLoot for a while, rather than xloot-group |
| 20:48.21 | genetik- | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8198-teksLoot.html |
| 20:48.33 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r104 / (2 files in 2 directories): doc testing |
| 20:48.38 | chiper | naw, i have no need for monitor |
| 20:49.26 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r105 .docmeta: Another test |
| 20:49.36 | chiper | would be nice if Tekkub had included a screenshot on that :P |
| 20:49.49 | chiper | pics or it doesnt exist |
| 20:49.53 | genetik- | it's pretty much the same exact thing |
| 20:49.55 | genetik- | visually |
| 20:50.16 | Pneumatus | teksLoot needs to stop Lua erroring when you CTRL+mouseover the lootframes tho |
| 20:50.33 | genetik- | Pneumatus: I haven't had any error issues with it |
| 20:50.43 | Pneumatus | you probably havnt held CTRL while mouseovering |
| 20:50.49 | genetik- | probably not |
| 20:50.54 | genetik- | why would you do that? |
| 20:51.06 | Pneumatus | because i use CTRL as a modifier for like all my keys |
| 20:51.15 | Pneumatus | so its often held down |
| 20:51.18 | chiper | to open it in the equipment viewer |
| 20:51.37 | genetik- | hmm |
| 20:51.44 | genetik- | i bet i have held down ctrl, then |
| 20:51.49 | genetik- | i just don't think about it |
| 20:52.01 | genetik- | i'll look for it tonight |
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| 20:55.42 | Repo | 10guilder: 03onaforeignshore 07master * 1.0.4-4-gb1be041 / (13 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] luadoc, luadoc, I love thee luadoc :p |
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| 20:59.31 | NeoTron | Sartharion with 3 drakes in 10-man is hard |
| 20:59.58 | Stanzilla | true |
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| 21:00.07 | Pneumatus | it's the hardest encounter in the game at present, and even 2drakes 10man is harder than 3drakes 25man |
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| 21:02.47 | NeoTron | definitely |
| 21:02.56 | NeoTron | we've spent at least 6-7 hrs on it so far |
| 21:03.05 | NeoTron | last night we tried 3 healers, 3 dps, 3 tanks and still had tanks die :-/ |
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| 21:03.13 | NeoTron | I think we might need different healer(s) |
| 21:03.25 | NeoTron | and maybe optimize DPS to be either ranged or melee, not both |
| 21:03.31 | NeoTron | or physical/magical at least |
| 21:03.33 | WoWer | ÑÑÑкий |
| 21:03.40 | WoWer | ubuntu |
| 21:03.47 | WoWer | gde? |
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| 21:05.48 | AckisWork | OM NOM NOM NOM |
| 21:05.49 | AckisWork | http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2092/39/125/512851685/n512851685_1429750_3725.jpg |
| 21:06.24 | ckknight | I was looking at that wondering if it was a bong |
| 21:06.35 | Chompers | i thought that was a bon... |
| 21:06.37 | Chompers | god damn you ckk |
| 21:07.06 | pb_ee1 | Hey guys, is there a way in the latest version of Grid to add your group in any layout (for example layotu by class w/pets)? |
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| 21:08.06 | Repo | 10guilder: 03onaforeignshore 07master * 1.0.4-5-g93fa9b1 changelog.txt: [+1 commit] try luadoc() or die() |
| 21:08.27 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:10.15 | NeoTron | so guestion to people who have done the 5m Malygos kills - how the heck would you do that if you can't "halt" the sparks? |
| 21:10.30 | NeoTron | insan e DPS with no melee in the raid? :P |
| 21:10.36 | Kalroth | You can't |
| 21:10.51 | Stanzilla | ^ |
| 21:10.51 | Kalroth | You -need- to stack the sparks in order to do enough DPS |
| 21:10.52 | NeoTron | I suppose you don't know then that they are making the sparks non-rootable? |
| 21:11.03 | NeoTron | unintended method that is being removed in the patch |
| 21:11.23 | Kalroth | bring 20 DKs and death grip them around then :p |
| 21:11.43 | Kalroth | But no, I don't think it's doable without roots with current gear level |
| 21:11.47 | Chompers | we've just done sarth 3 25 for a second time, we're looking into the 5min maly too NeoTron |
| 21:11.51 | onaforeignshore | ok, that's a die() |
| 21:11.58 | Chompers | so very interested in any replies you get :P |
| 21:12.02 | Kalroth | Maybe if you're both lucky and got good coordination to move Malygos around |
| 21:12.09 | NeoTron | I can't find the source of this info but someone here, I believe, said they won't be rooted anymore |
| 21:12.28 | NeoTron | Kalroth: but theer's no way in hell you can move malygos out of the sparks if you can't root them. When he's in the air for one |
| 21:12.44 | Kalroth | If you haven't seen a blue post then I highly doubt they'll remove rooting of them |
| 21:13.01 | Kalroth | Since it's pretty much essential for the achievement |
| 21:14.54 | Kalroth | 4 stacks adds 506% damage, 3 stacks adds 338% damage, 2 stacks adds 225% damage |
| 21:15.07 | Kalroth | That's a pretty big difference between 3 and 4 stacks |
| 21:15.22 | Chompers | huge |
| 21:15.41 | Kalroth | I mean, we've gotten 3 stacks without rooting them, but they never lasted long enough for us to even be close |
| 21:16.01 | Chompers | rooting to 'save' them seems an interesting method |
| 21:16.04 | genetik- | so the key for that is to collect 4 of them and then kill the sparks? |
| 21:16.10 | Kalroth | So if they remove rooting, then they need some way to speed Phase 2 up |
| 21:16.12 | Chompers | wait for vortex to end and grip them all to you |
| 21:16.24 | Chompers | bam, hero trinkets the lot |
| 21:16.42 | Kalroth | root 3 behind the ranged dps, wait for the fourth to arrive, kill all 4 and go to town on Malygos |
| 21:16.53 | Kalroth | with proper dps you'll bring him to 1% before phase 2 starts |
| 21:17.00 | genetik- | cool |
| 21:17.03 | NivFreak | ^-- ranged dps required |
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| 21:17.17 | Kalroth | Yeah, can't bring much melee |
| 21:17.29 | NeoTron | problem is having to root them requires a specific raid makeup |
| 21:17.33 | NivFreak | which is why we haven't nailed it, we run too melee heavy lately |
| 21:17.33 | NeoTron | to the extreme in a 10-man |
| 21:17.34 | Kalroth | although a fury warrior with 500% damage is :P~~~~~~~ |
| 21:17.43 | NivFreak | Kalroth: not if you can't hit him :) |
| 21:17.47 | NivFreak | or the adds |
| 21:17.59 | NivFreak | and p2 getting on a platform clears the buff |
| 21:18.01 | NivFreak | so not so useful |
| 21:18.05 | Kalroth | he'll be at 20-30% before he lifts off |
| 21:18.08 | genetik- | i imagine you'd probably use the time before killing all the sparks to let the MT generate some excess threat? |
| 21:18.17 | Kalroth | genetik-: that too |
| 21:18.22 | NivFreak | genetik-: you do most of the burn when he's in the air really |
| 21:18.29 | Kalroth | a mage with 500% damage will generate a fuckload of TPS |
| 21:18.42 | genetik- | NivFreak: at the 1-2 transition? |
| 21:18.53 | NivFreak | yea |
| 21:18.58 | genetik- | makes sense |
| 21:19.04 | NeoTron | I admit I don't like the kind of achievements that requires raid makeups like this |
| 21:19.05 | NivFreak | you basically want him at < 60% when you pop the sparks |
| 21:19.11 | NivFreak | and then you just burn him in transition |
| 21:19.17 | NivFreak | NeoTron: agreed |
| 21:19.17 | NeoTron | gimmick achievements like the "gotta go" one in AN |
| 21:19.32 | Kalroth | Sarth10+3 is a bit harsh on raid layout too |
| 21:19.39 | NeoTron | yeah but not as bad |
| 21:19.47 | NeoTron | at least you don't need X of a specific class |
| 21:19.52 | Kalroth | 3 tanks, 2-3 healers and 4-5 DPS |
| 21:19.56 | NeoTron | and you can use any kind of DPS |
| 21:20.04 | Kalroth | vs Maly10 with 1 tank, 2 healers(?) and 8 dps |
| 21:20.07 | NeoTron | even though mixing dps might not work |
| 21:20.14 | Kalroth | yeah, you still need synergy |
| 21:20.27 | NeoTron | which might be part of ouir issue |
| 21:20.29 | Kalroth | can't go without a shaman :p |
| 21:20.41 | NivFreak | and ele shaman are worthless |
| 21:20.43 | NivFreak | which means resto |
| 21:20.44 | NeoTron | we didn't always get tenebron down before the third drake and when he was down it was margianlly so |
| 21:20.46 | ckknight | does http://www.wowace.com/projects/pit-bull/ work for everyone? |
| 21:20.48 | Kalroth | until 3.0.8 anyways |
| 21:20.49 | Chompers | sunwell lite :P |
| 21:21.02 | NivFreak | NeoTron: We worked on 3drakes last night for a couple of hours |
| 21:21.04 | NeoTron | 10-man S3D is not too disimilar from M'uru |
| 21:21.06 | Kalroth | ckknight: some crappy addon on that page here, is it supposed to be like that? |
| 21:21.10 | Kalroth | :P |
| 21:21.12 | NivFreak | NeoTron: melee fail to void zones way too often for us |
| 21:21.20 | NivFreak | 2 drakes was of course a joke |
| 21:21.20 | NeoTron | NivFreak: 25 or 10/ |
| 21:21.22 | NivFreak | 25 |
| 21:21.29 | NivFreak | I've done 2 drakes in both now |
| 21:21.31 | Kalroth | 2 drakes are very, very easy |
| 21:21.32 | NivFreak | worked on 3 drakes in both |
| 21:21.35 | NivFreak | Kalroth: yep |
| 21:21.41 | NeoTron | 2 drakes is still hard in 10 man |
| 21:21.46 | NivFreak | NeoTron: not really |
| 21:21.49 | Kalroth | 25+3 is fairly easy, at least with gear upgrades |
| 21:21.50 | NeoTron | well with the group we used for it which didn't include mana regen |
| 21:21.50 | NivFreak | it's just comp |
| 21:21.58 | Kalroth | 10+2 is pretty easy too |
| 21:22.04 | Kalroth | 10+3 is by far the hardest though |
| 21:22.07 | NeoTron | with the group we had last night it'd been easier but I still wouldn't call it easy |
| 21:22.09 | NivFreak | my DK tank is still a bit undergeared, and 3 drakes really makes it clear |
| 21:22.18 | NeoTron | 10+2 is harder than 25+3 by quite a margin |
| 21:22.25 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I completely disagree |
| 21:22.41 | AckisWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.46 | Kalroth | I don't think so, 10+2 is still easy because you can bring the player rather than the class |
| 21:22.52 | NivFreak | yep |
| 21:23.02 | Kalroth | 25+3 is harder because you have to bring -those- players we all got :P |
| 21:23.08 | NivFreak | yea... |
| 21:23.15 | NivFreak | I had this new shadow priest apping |
| 21:23.18 | NivFreak | and we took him |
| 21:23.19 | Kalroth | 10+3 is hardest because you have to bring both good players and proper classes |
| 21:23.25 | NivFreak | I think he died to every void zone that was under him |
| 21:23.35 | Chompers | i hate people like that |
| 21:23.42 | Chompers | it makes everything so much more difficult |
| 21:23.57 | NivFreak | he won't be passing his app |
| 21:23.57 | Kalroth | We had a holy paladin get "Heroic: Gonna Go When the Volcano Blows" on 25+3, he died on first Flame Wall :p |
| 21:24.06 | NivFreak | nice :P |
| 21:24.20 | Kalroth | still killed them with 5 healers, although some of them bitched after ;P |
| 21:24.28 | Kalroth | killed him* |
| 21:24.37 | NivFreak | I'm not sure how you can get that as melee doing 3 drakes |
| 21:24.53 | Kalroth | You join a pug and go drown in the lava |
| 21:24.56 | NivFreak | haha |
| 21:24.57 | Kalroth | that's how you get it :) |
| 21:25.15 | NivFreak | I've gotten it as MT in both I think |
| 21:25.20 | Chompers | pugging sarth is..well |
| 21:25.25 | Kalroth | Alternatively you do it as a guild and let 10 people go drown |
| 21:25.44 | Kalroth | 25+0 is silly easy, could probably do it with 8-10 easily too |
| 21:25.45 | NivFreak | or 20 |
| 21:25.50 | NivFreak | I bet you could 5 man that fight |
| 21:25.57 | Kalroth | 5 might be a tad tight on enrage timer |
| 21:26.03 | NivFreak | he has an enrage timer? |
| 21:26.06 | NivFreak | lol |
| 21:26.20 | Kalroth | I think so, never seen it :) |
| 21:26.37 | Kalroth | Berserk |
| 21:26.37 | Kalroth | Instant |
| 21:26.37 | Kalroth | Increases the caster's attack speed by 150% and all damage it deals by 500% for 5 min. |
| 21:26.39 | NeoTron | Kalroth: we got all good players. :P |
| 21:26.58 | Kalroth | oh wait, that Berserk is if you try to gank him without dealing with drakes |
| 21:26.59 | NeoTron | basically our raiders seem to be exclusively good or great. I know, rare. |
| 21:27.09 | Kalroth | NeoTron: Filthy liar! |
| 21:27.11 | Kalroth | No such guild |
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| 21:27.29 | Kalroth | refuses to believe. |
| 21:27.30 | Chompers | alot of good players came back for lich |
| 21:27.53 | Kalroth | and a lot of them are leaving again if Blizzard doesn't hurry the fuck up |
| 21:27.58 | NeoTron | went to 10-man and rebuilt to 25 |
| 21:28.07 | Kalroth | Karazhan'ish instances are only fun for a short while |
| 21:28.23 | NeoTron | some are just over average and do die on the occasional bad thing but no one that sucks and does 200 dps |
| 21:28.35 | Nickenyfiken | Instances in only fun for a short while. |
| 21:28.41 | Kalroth | We got a fairly relaxed raid guild, cleared all 25 man content in just over 3 hours this week |
| 21:28.59 | NivFreak | that's all it really takes |
| 21:28.59 | Chompers | alt time perhaps Kalroth |
| 21:29.11 | NivFreak | it takes us about 3.5 hours |
| 21:29.12 | Chompers | we're gearing up a second raidgroup of alts, you know...just in case |
| 21:29.17 | Kalroth | I'm afraid people will start looking elsewhere for fun, like non-WoW stuff >< |
| 21:29.18 | NivFreak | but we don't have 3drakes |
| 21:29.39 | Kalroth | Chompers: We hate alts, at least in raids. :) |
| 21:29.47 | Kalroth | We still do 10 man runs with alts and shit |
| 21:29.55 | Chompers | :< it's good fun doing a naxx clear with alts |
| 21:29.56 | NivFreak | I need to level my alts I guess |
| 21:30.07 | Kalroth | Naxx10 is pretty fun with 8 players |
| 21:30.08 | Chompers | it was difficult the first few weeks, not it's as fast as a main run |
| 21:30.17 | Kalroth | well, was |
| 21:30.42 | Kalroth | We would also have gotten Undying if a MCer didn't fuck up on Razu >< |
| 21:30.49 | Chompers | :< |
| 21:30.53 | NivFreak | man |
| 21:30.58 | NivFreak | we had one death on our last 10man undying |
| 21:31.03 | NeoTron | I have 8-man clear and 4hm left to do i naxx-10 |
| 21:31.14 | NivFreak | failure to heal the MT on gluth after decimate |
| 21:31.16 | NivFreak | I mean wtf.. |
| 21:31.21 | Kalroth | NivFreak: doh |
| 21:31.26 | NeoTron | 3 drakes + not standing in boom for sartharion + malygos 8-man/5m |
| 21:31.27 | NivFreak | no other deaths |
| 21:31.28 | AckisWork | hmm can you do text validation in MS workd? |
| 21:31.41 | NivFreak | 8 man malygos would be pretty easy I think |
| 21:31.45 | NeoTron | for sure |
| 21:31.46 | NivFreak | 5min 10man should be interesting |
| 21:31.50 | NeoTron | just haven't done it |
| 21:32.00 | NeoTron | the hard ones are s3d and 5m malygos |
| 21:32.05 | NeoTron | others just has to be done |
| 21:32.07 | NivFreak | I'm thinking of working on 10man achievements now |
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| 21:32.19 | NivFreak | mainly because I don't see his getting the immortal any time soon |
| 21:32.24 | NivFreak | and I can bring my core group to 10mans |
| 21:33.49 | Trell- | what was the wws like site that allowed you to host yourself? |
| 21:33.53 | Trell- | I believe it was free too |
| 21:33.59 | NeoTron | does anyone have WWS or similar for 25-man raids where a boomkin does good DPS? |
| 21:34.03 | NeoTron | like competetive DPS |
| 21:34.34 | Trell- | nevermind StasisCL, I found it |
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| 21:36.14 | Jaxon | The Bios does not be installed. Press <g> to continue |
| 21:36.17 | Jaxon | Ooh |
| 21:36.21 | Jaxon | Sorry, wrong window. |
| 21:36.32 | NeoTron | g |
| 21:36.45 | doom0r | i can't find <g> |
| 21:36.53 | doom0r | is that dvorak? |
| 21:37.31 | Chompers | f |
| 21:39.47 | Jaxon | Nevermind the key, I don' tunderstand the error. |
| 21:41.20 | doom0r | me either |
| 21:41.27 | doom0r | what's The Bios |
| 21:41.29 | doom0r | a game? |
| 21:41.32 | doom0r | ;x |
| 21:41.46 | Jaxon | It is the RAID bios on the motherboard. |
| 21:41.49 | Zhinjio | ckknight: runes support in pb4 yet? |
| 21:41.55 | doom0r | i think that might be worse than Errory 17 |
| 21:42.04 | doom0r | s/Errory 17/Error 17/ |
| 21:42.07 | Zhinjio | I see some whacky bar up where the old unitframe was, but not sure if its mobile or whatever |
| 21:42.07 | ckknight | no, Zhinjio. I'm still not sure how best to display it |
| 21:42.12 | Zhinjio | k |
| 21:42.20 | ckknight | Zhinjio: you have any thoughts? |
| 21:42.26 | Zhinjio | thinks |
| 21:42.35 | AckisWork | sees smoke |
| 21:42.46 | Zhinjio | well, its dual purpose. cooldown and power indicator (sort of) |
| 21:42.56 | Zhinjio | so you need to know when its up, and how many you have of each color |
| 21:43.00 | ckknight | the gears are grinding against each other! throw water on em |
| 21:43.05 | ckknight | splashes Zhinjio |
| 21:43.13 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:43.24 | doom0r | not water, it rusts! |
| 21:43.31 | ckknight | o noes |
| 21:43.39 | Zhinjio | so like combo points, I can see just colored dots for the quantity part |
| 21:43.43 | doom0r | squeezes Astroglide on Zhinjio |
| 21:43.51 | Zhinjio | maybe rings around them when their cooldown is available or something |
| 21:44.01 | sztanpet | nah, simple colored text |
| 21:44.11 | Zhinjio | or a castbar like dropout bar |
| 21:44.15 | chiper | colored progress bars |
| 21:44.18 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 21:44.21 | Zhinjio | right |
| 21:44.28 | sztanpet | too much space |
| 21:44.29 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 21:44.33 | ckknight | I was thinking maybe to have a 6-split bar |
| 21:44.33 | Jaxon | How many runes do you ever have at once, five? |
| 21:44.39 | Zhinjio | let me make a mockup |
| 21:44.40 | ckknight | or to have 6 indicator icons |
| 21:44.46 | doom0r | wtf is this, AddOn Pictionary? |
| 21:44.50 | ckknight | Jaxon: 6 |
| 21:45.04 | ckknight | doom0r: either that or a discussion of PitBull4's rune display |
| 21:45.08 | doom0r | o |
| 21:45.11 | chiper | 6 bars, stacked vertically, four colors |
| 21:45.12 | sztanpet | yea, six little squares with matching colored cooldown texts |
| 21:45.14 | Jaxon | ckknight: I'm thinking on the same was as you then. Have runic power an overlay over six split bars that each show the cooldown on the runes |
| 21:45.18 | doom0r | colored blocks or the default runes imo |
| 21:45.22 | sztanpet | easy enough to do, and you can instantly see whats up |
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| 21:47.30 | doom0r | http://mediabeta.curse.com/Curse.Projects.ProjectImages/16131/10974/pvw18345.jpg |
| 21:48.00 | doom0r | the focus being telling what's cooling and what's ready |
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| 21:49.09 | Pneumatus | anyone know if any of the Incubator devs are active? |
| 21:49.22 | chiper | what are the color values for the four rune types? |
| 21:49.40 | Pneumatus | shieldb/Morgalm/durcyn apparently |
| 21:49.51 | Jaxon | I'd imagine you'd want to fit it into the same bar-type as current unitframes (mana/energy/rage) to keep it functional among the different PB4 layouts. |
| 21:50.05 | Pneumatus | or if there's another trash respawn timer addon around somewhere that's updated |
| 21:50.05 | Zhinjio | 4? oh, right. |
| 21:50.16 | durcyn | huh what |
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| 21:50.29 | durcyn | incubator? what about it |
| 21:50.42 | ckknight | chiper: red, green, blue, purple |
| 21:50.55 | doom0r | why, combo points are typically outside a UF |
| 21:50.58 | chiper | heh, was hoping for hex values, but that will work too |
| 21:51.02 | Pneumatus | durcyn, what info do you need to get it updated for LK instances? |
| 21:51.09 | ckknight | Jaxon: I was thinking providing two kinds of displays, one which acts as an indicator, and one which is a bar |
| 21:51.12 | Repo | 10grid: 03StingerSoft * r1143 GridLocale-ruRU.lua: ruRU update |
| 21:51.15 | ckknight | the user could then choose |
| 21:51.30 | durcyn | Pneumatus: mobids |
| 21:51.30 | NeoTron | people actually run uinto trash respawns in LK instances?! |
| 21:51.39 | doom0r | honestly, bar is overload imo |
| 21:51.42 | NeoTron | I guess we do on Sartharion + drakes but other than that :P |
| 21:52.11 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1403 / (3 files in 2 directories): Update Holy Prot Pot |
| 21:52.17 | Pneumatus | durcyn: also, incubator is responsible for some framexml errors :) |
| 21:52.29 | durcyn | unsurprising, it's a bit archaic |
| 21:52.36 | genetik- | NeoTron: 2-hour respawn in there? |
| 21:52.37 | Pneumatus | yeh :) |
| 21:53.14 | Pneumatus | NeoTron: the only thing i'd use it for is 3drakes as well, but for that one particular instance it would be handy as hell :P |
| 21:53.27 | Jaxon | ckknight: well, for the bar, I always thought I'd like a runic power bar (rage) 100% the length and 6 segments (16.x% of the length) that are visible thru the runic power bar that fill up as they become available. That way they might be big enough to fit text labels in there, as colours (for me) don't work that great. |
| 21:54.03 | ckknight | Jaxon: ick. Runic power and runes are separate |
| 21:54.13 | ckknight | it'd be too hard to see them if they're overlayed |
| 21:54.17 | Jaxon | ckknight: yeah, but I'd like to see them in the same spot. |
| 21:54.21 | doom0r | you need characters if you have trouble with color |
| 21:54.28 | Jaxon | ckknight: note, I don't actually PLAY a deathknight. |
| 21:54.37 | ckknight | one above the other wouldn't be bad |
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| 21:55.06 | doom0r | the outline around the runes works pretty well |
| 21:55.45 | Pneumatus | durcyn: while I don't know respawn timers on naxx trash, i know that sartharion's trash is 2 hours and can get all the mob ids |
| 21:56.01 | Jaxon | doom0r: problem with outlines is that they can obscure the difference between 95% full and 100% full. |
| 21:56.43 | durcyn | Pneumatus: it's just a table of ids and times, you could update it yourself if you wanted, the repo's open |
| 21:56.51 | Pneumatus | rgr |
| 21:56.51 | durcyn | Pneumatus: otherwise send them to me and i'll add it in |
| 21:57.02 | doom0r | Jaxon: flash on full? |
| 21:57.12 | doom0r | it's rp |
| 21:57.18 | doom0r | something you dump |
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| 21:57.53 | ckknight | on full, it should both flash and turn brighter |
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| 21:58.09 | ckknight | so it could be dark when non-full, and normal bright when full |
| 21:58.13 | ckknight | imo |
| 21:58.17 | doom0r | i don't see why the rp wouldn't jsut be in the mana slot |
| 21:58.21 | Jaxon | doom0r: I always tried to find text indicators for my mana/energy/rage stuff, completely visual don't work with the colourblind, but I don't think an entire addon should be written around my limitation, just account for it. |
| 21:58.25 | doom0r | if you want your crap elsewhere, use another display |
| 21:58.53 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03cremor * r4914 Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: |
| 21:58.56 | Repo | Added missing spellId for the Power Surge of Stalagg in the 25 men version of Thaddius. |
| 21:58.59 | doom0r | well, my point was, 95 and 100 mean jack with rp |
| 21:59.00 | ckknight | doom0r: it would just be there |
| 21:59.01 | chiper | what's the cooldown on a rune? 15 seconds? |
| 21:59.06 | ckknight | runes â Â runic power |
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| 21:59.52 | doom0r | so then where the rp is doesn't matter in relation to the runes, let the user move it |
| 22:00.05 | doom0r | only how the bar acts, as itself is the issue |
| 22:00.51 | ckknight | we're not discussing runic power, just the runes |
| 22:01.06 | doom0r | well, overlaying was brought up, hence my points |
| 22:01.21 | ckknight | okay, well, I'm not doing that |
| 22:02.02 | doom0r | what about an omnicc timer over the rune? |
| 22:02.36 | ckknight | that's what I was thinking |
| 22:02.48 | ckknight | have a cooldown spiral |
| 22:02.52 | ckknight | optional numbers |
| 22:03.02 | doom0r | right, i was getting at the numbers for Jaxon's issue |
| 22:03.13 | doom0r | spiral is useless on that imo anyways |
| 22:03.21 | doom0r | and i have excellent vision |
| 22:03.21 | Pneumatus | ping: sylvanaar |
| 22:03.32 | ckknight | also, the colorblind can still see bars. |
| 22:03.39 | ckknight | and PitBull4 lets you customize your colors up the wazoo |
| 22:03.47 | AckisWork | ~wowspell 39714 |
| 22:03.48 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=39714 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=39714 |
| 22:03.55 | ckknight | so red-green colorblindness and the like is irrelevant for the most part |
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| 22:04.40 | doom0r | text over an icon wouldn't be great i suppose though, Jaxon? |
| 22:05.12 | doom0r | without high contrast? |
| 22:05.19 | Jaxon | doom0r: depends how visible it is. Text over an icon works as long as it is big enough. |
| 22:05.31 | doom0r | one sec, i saw something |
| 22:05.35 | Jaxon | But size is an issue with anyone who has a higher resolution. |
| 22:06.11 | doom0r | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12127-atrRunes.html |
| 22:06.21 | doom0r | gotta run, just a thought though |
| 22:06.31 | doom0r | no overlay issues there |
| 22:06.40 | Pneumatus | ckknight: is there a way on cf/wowace to view all tickets i've created that arent open anymore? |
| 22:07.03 | Pneumatus | home/tickets/ only seems to list open tickets and not closed |
| 22:07.15 | ckknight | not currently |
| 22:08.42 | Pneumatus | bah :< |
| 22:10.07 | chiper | this is the sort of thing I'd like to get for a rune timer, but this kind of layout probably wouldn't work for pitbull. http://imagebin.org/36225 |
| 22:10.52 | ckknight | technically possible with PitBull4 |
| 22:10.56 | ckknight | you write a bar provider module |
| 22:10.59 | ckknight | that provides 6 bars |
| 22:11.07 | ckknight | granted, I think it'd take up too much space |
| 22:11.09 | ckknight | and not be worthwhile |
| 22:11.27 | Jaxon | chiper: problem with that is space |
| 22:11.29 | chiper | I like bars, I can parse them faster then timers |
| 22:11.31 | Jaxon | Wait, ckknight said that |
| 22:11.59 | Pneumatus | one of the existing rune addons makes bars like that, chiper |
| 22:11.59 | chiper | *shrug* I value quick reading over space usage. I know some people prefer a frugal layout |
| 22:12.06 | onaforeignshore | if the bars are color coded, it only has to take up a minimal height |
| 22:12.27 | onaforeignshore | no need for text |
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| 22:12.44 | Pneumatus | chiper: Magic Runes looks like it has something like that, and you can problably remove text/icons and resize |
| 22:12.49 | chiper | right, I I can take this thing down to 12 pixels tall |
| 22:12.50 | Pneumatus | http://www.wowace.com/projects/magicrunes/images/6-horizontal-bars-with-animated-icons/ |
| 22:13.48 | chiper | ooo, yeah, I like that |
| 22:13.50 | onaforeignshore | I'd say 6 vertical bars would be easier to follow and could go on the side of the display |
| 22:14.07 | genetik- | why not have the 6 timer bars be like 3px tall and just colored? |
| 22:14.21 | Pneumatus | magicrunes can also do vertical, not sure exactly how customisable it is regarding sizing etc tho |
| 22:14.25 | onaforeignshore | that's what I said above :p |
| 22:14.37 | genetik- | onaforeignshore: ah, i see now |
| 22:14.38 | genetik- | heh |
| 22:14.42 | onaforeignshore | lol |
| 22:14.47 | onaforeignshore | np |
| 22:14.58 | Pneumatus | i use the runebar on IceHUD, i just wish that when they went on cooldown they wouldn't grey out horribly |
| 22:15.02 | genetik- | i just came back from doing some work stuff and quickly read the scrollback |
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| 22:15.47 | Pneumatus | the cooldown greyout is a full square not a circle so it looks horrible overlayed :< |
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| 22:15.56 | chiper | genetik-: like so http://imagebin.org/36227 |
| 22:16.18 | genetik- | yeah |
| 22:16.23 | chiper | loves css |
| 22:16.39 | genetik- | minimal space, still understandable for the most part |
| 22:16.42 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1404 / (6 files in 2 directories): |
| 22:16.44 | Repo | Fix some JC stuff, and all BT/Hyjal drops, and ssc/tk drops have had their flags/acquire fixed. |
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| 22:18.22 | Pneumatus | there's an actionbar mod that has circle action buttons, right? |
| 22:18.46 | chiper | if the bar size & padding we're controllable, you could make the bars as tall or short as you want |
| 22:19.41 | genetik- | chiper: what's with the one frost rune being purple? |
| 22:19.44 | onaforeignshore | time to make myself scarce... later guys and gals! |
| 22:19.49 | chiper | Death Runes |
| 22:19.57 | genetik- | ah |
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| 22:20.41 | AckisWork | ~wowspell 23190 |
| 22:20.42 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=23190 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=23190 |
| 22:21.39 | Repo | 10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03Azethoth * r172 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: -- "Krasus' Landing" |
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| 22:22.23 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1405 / (4 files in 2 directories): Fix the DM cache patterns. |
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| 22:29.02 | Repo | 10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r735 Core.lua: |
| 22:29.04 | Repo | -- Fix "no flying for you!" in Dalaran & Wintergrasp - Krasus' Landing. |
| 22:29.06 | Repo | -- Requires localization of Krasus' Landing in LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua to work in non-english locales |
| 22:29.27 | rapidgame | when doing if statements, can i do something along the lines of 'if (conditon1 == 10) or (condition2 == "abcd") then' |
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| 22:29.40 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 22:29.45 | rapidgame | sweet |
| 22:29.59 | Arrowmaster | you dont even need the ()'s in that example |
| 22:30.22 | sztanpet | ~wowalerts |
| 22:30.23 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 22:30.27 | Arrowmaster | if condition1 is 10 it will also never even attempt to evaluate what condition2 is |
| 22:30.48 | Arrowmaster | so put your most likely one first |
| 22:31.09 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1406 RecipeDB (5 files in 1 directory): Fix ticket 323 which deals with Thrallmar/HH faction. |
| 22:33.10 | rapidgame | Arrowmaster: thanks for that! |
| 22:34.43 | chiper | I am so glad my realm has yet to need free transfers |
| 22:35.08 | Fisker- | it's Arrowmaster |
| 22:35.10 | Fisker- | get hiiiiiiim |
| 22:36.35 | harl | what's the reason for my attack macro not working with arcane shot anymore, though it does with serpent sting |
| 22:37.10 | rapidgame | ckknight recommended a good debugger to me the other day but i can't remember what it was lol, anyone know any good ones? |
| 22:37.44 | AckisWork | why? so you can just forget about what we recommend too/ |
| 22:37.47 | AckisWork | :P |
| 22:38.28 | Hirsute | harl: Without seeing your attack macro, it'd be hard to tell. |
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| 22:39.22 | ckknight | rapidgame: next time write it down |
| 22:40.09 | harl | Hirsute: it's basically that: .. /cast [target=mouseover,nodead,exists,harm] [target=target,exists,harm] Arcane Shot |
| 22:40.28 | gix | rapidgame: search your irc logs ;) |
| 22:41.05 | Pneumatus | ping: ulic |
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| 22:41.24 | [dRaCo] | harm implicates exists |
| 22:41.56 | [dRaCo] | and afaik, target=target is redudant since your target is your target anyway |
| 22:42.01 | [dRaCo] | other than that, no idea |
| 22:42.03 | Repo | 10lern2count: 03jerry 04v1.2-release * r125 : Tagging as v1.2-release |
| 22:42.18 | harl | no, it's not, because i don't want it to fire if i don't have any target.. |
| 22:42.35 | Arrowmaster | thats what exists is for |
| 22:42.46 | [dRaCo] | or harm, for that matter |
| 22:42.53 | harl | and the question why it the mouseover part doesn't work with arcane shot, though it does with arcane shot |
| 22:43.04 | Arrowmaster | although [target=target] could be useful for making sure selfcast and focuscast modifiers never get triggered with that macro |
| 22:43.21 | harl | yes |
| 22:43.44 | harl | what it = is why |
| 22:43.54 | harl | *why |
| 22:44.01 | Hirsute | harl: Have you tried deleting the macro and retyping it from scratch? I've had some times where macros stopped working until I recreated them. |
| 22:44.15 | harl | yes, i have |
| 22:44.32 | rapidgame | ckknight: oh c'mon, only take you a second or two to tell me again ;-) |
| 22:44.36 | Arrowmaster | try removing the space between the '] [' |
| 22:45.03 | Pneumatus | is it my imagination, or does LittleWigs never actually load a file if you use the packaged versions, as none of the LittleWigs_* modules contain tocs, and LittleWigs.toc/modules.xml doesn't reference the lua files |
| 22:45.11 | ckknight | rapidgame: k. I don't remember recommending a debugger to you. It was probably someone else. I use BugSack and !BugGrabber, though |
| 22:45.15 | harl | Arrowmaster: i have spaces between the brackets with all my other macros as well? |
| 22:45.33 | rapidgame | rapidgame: cool, thanks! |
| 22:46.09 | Pneumatus | or maybe i have a dodgy version :o |
| 22:46.23 | Zhinjio | so... |
| 22:46.28 | Zhinjio | alternatives to cowtip that don't suck? |
| 22:47.07 | NeoTron | someone should make bulltip |
| 22:47.12 | ckknight | the awesome non-crappy version of CowTip I have on my comp but refuse to share with anyone cause it's so awesome |
| 22:47.15 | Zhinjio | shittip |
| 22:47.30 | harl | removing the spaces didn't help |
| 22:48.10 | Pneumatus | ckknight: @debug@ replacements happen regardless of the packaged zip type, right? |
| 22:48.20 | ckknight | correct |
| 22:48.43 | Pneumatus | so code inside will only ever be uncommented on svn checkouts |
| 22:48.49 | ckknight | yes |
| 22:48.52 | ckknight | @alpha@ is what changes based on whether it's tagged or not |
| 22:49.07 | ckknight | in PitBull4, I put a bunch of expectation statements in @alpha@ clauses |
| 22:49.25 | ckknight | so when I release a beta, they won't run |
| 22:49.34 | Pneumatus | yeh, need to poke ulic into @debug@ replacing modules.xml so you dont get framexml spam :) |
| 22:49.36 | ckknight | but they will for git clones and alpha zips |
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| 22:59.00 | Pneumatus | ckknight: does the packager also do .toc replacements with @debug@ or just lua/xml as its not documented |
| 22:59.08 | ckknight | lemme check |
| 22:59.25 | Pneumatus | as it would make sense to do # comments as well as -- and <!-- |
| 22:59.51 | ckknight | TOC only has #@no-lib-strip@ |
| 23:00.04 | steev | i <3 stripping libs |
| 23:00.23 | ckknight | lemme add @debug@ and @alpha@ |
| 23:00.29 | robotusch | ~alert |
| 23:00.29 | purl | I'm falling asleep listening to you boring morons... |
| 23:00.48 | Pneumatus | kinda makes sense if you have lua/xml files only useful on SVN co |
| 23:01.03 | ulic | Pneumatus: yea, I've run with that module live, and don't get frame errors, just stick whatever in where it needs to go if you know. |
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| 23:01.40 | Pneumatus | ulic: i've raised a ticket, but ammended it for the current packager behavior... once ckknight adds toc stripping for debug i can just commit a change if you like |
| 23:01.49 | ckknight | ticket on the packager? |
| 23:01.55 | Pneumatus | nah, on LittleWigs |
| 23:01.58 | ckknight | oh |
| 23:02.00 | ckknight | okay |
| 23:02.03 | ckknight | I'm almost done |
| 23:02.40 | Chosi | dudes |
| 23:02.42 | Chosi | is it an Y |
| 23:02.45 | Chosi | or a Y? |
| 23:02.49 | ckknight | a Y |
| 23:02.51 | Chosi | okay |
| 23:02.54 | ckknight | since it sounds like "why" |
| 23:02.56 | ckknight | a why |
| 23:02.57 | Chosi | cause it's wai? |
| 23:02.58 | Chosi | ok |
| 23:03.06 | ckknight | which starts with a consonant sound |
| 23:03.10 | Chosi | alright |
| 23:03.14 | ckknight | nevertheless, you are an hero |
| 23:03.21 | ckknight | or at least Fisker- is |
| 23:03.32 | Chosi | an hiro? |
| 23:03.42 | steev | wut |
| 23:03.51 | Chosi | best rage pic ever |
| 23:03.55 | ckknight | ? |
| 23:03.57 | ckknight | link? |
| 23:04.08 | Chosi | http://666kb.com/i/b5oywqupd2qdwdri2.jpg |
| 23:04.10 | steev | ^^ keylogger |
| 23:04.14 | Pneumatus | Blizzard_InspectUI fails with framexml errors :o |
| 23:04.29 | ckknight | lol, Chosi |
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| 23:04.40 | Chosi | at first i was... |
| 23:04.48 | Chosi | but then i loled big time |
| 23:04.49 | steev | http://www.photobasement.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/submissiongod.jpg is bettar |
| 23:04.54 | Chosi | anytime i see it |
| 23:04.58 | Chosi | that small mouth :D |
| 23:06.07 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/repository-keyword-substitutions/ by ckknight |
| 23:06.14 | ckknight | k, Pneumatus |
| 23:06.20 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03Pneumatus * r531 LittleWigs.toc: |
| 23:06.22 | Repo | - Comment out LittleWigs/modules.xml if running a packaged version. |
| 23:07.04 | rapidgame | does @project-version@ not work on TOC files then? |
| 23:07.22 | Pneumatus | didn't work, ckknight |
| 23:07.45 | ckknight | rapidgame: it does |
| 23:07.49 | ckknight | Pneumatus: yea, because I forgot to update the packager on the repos server |
| 23:07.51 | ckknight | Pneumatus: try again |
| 23:07.56 | rapidgame | ckknight - sweet |
| 23:08.44 | Pneumatus | ckknight: can it be repackaged or needs another commit to bump? |
| 23:08.50 | ckknight | sorry, needs bump |
| 23:09.00 | steev | hawt bump |
| 23:09.02 | basslingo_ | lol at the bliz framexml errors, Pneumatus, they always happen at the worst times too :P\ |
| 23:09.24 | basslingo_ | grr my nick didnt regester -.- one sec |
| 23:09.48 | basslingo | there we go |
| 23:10.07 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r35 / (3 files in 2 directories): add esES and esMX locales |
| 23:10.40 | Pneumatus | ulic: i'll not bother bumping the toc just to get the packager to do it's thing, but it should be commented out in the next zipped version :) |
| 23:10.59 | ulic | ok |
| 23:11.00 | AckisWork | wow you did his but not mine? :P |
| 23:11.23 | Pneumatus | AckisWork: different issue :P |
| 23:11.33 | Pneumatus | although |
| 23:11.35 | Pneumatus | it may not be |
| 23:11.44 | Pneumatus | let me get the latest ARL |
| 23:13.34 | Pneumatus | i tend to steer clear of other peoples shit anyway incase i get it wrong/shouted at |
| 23:14.39 | Pneumatus | aboutpanel is weird, because it needs other libs, which im not even sure what other libs are like that |
| 23:14.53 | NeoTron | speaking of arl I think I need to get it |
| 23:14.55 | Pneumatus | i'm thinking it should actually be structured differently |
| 23:15.16 | Pneumatus | so you have a deeper folder to pkgmeta with just the lua in |
| 23:15.30 | Pneumatus | i think thats how Ace3 gets around it |
| 23:15.46 | Pneumatus | as you still need LS/CBH |
| 23:16.17 | Pneumatus | although, the ARL errors seem to be gone |
| 23:16.53 | Pneumatus | oh wait, i dont have ARL loaded |
| 23:16.56 | Pneumatus | that could explain it |
| 23:18.24 | AckisWork | Pneumatus: it just needs libstub/cbh... which everything else needs too |
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| 23:19.23 | Pneumatus | when you external it though, you dont get its dependant libs, so you assume authors will include those also, right? |
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| 23:19.39 | Pneumatus | same as how Ace3 embedders need to embed LS/CBH themselves |
| 23:20.12 | AckisWork | I never assume other people will do anything |
| 23:20.46 | Pneumatus | but yeh, no errors now anyway, as anyone that embeds and links lib.xml will only call the lua, and not the dependancies of that lib |
| 23:21.20 | Pneumatus | it might be worth adding some sanity into the start of LibAboutPanel to check if LS/CBH exist |
| 23:21.27 | Industrial | http://wowwebstats.com/5oz4knzoujxac?s=167747-197144&a=x10758da |
| 23:21.28 | Industrial | harhar |
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| 23:35.11 | doom0r | ~wowalert |
| 23:35.12 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 23:39.31 | Repo | 10ora2: 03Azethoth * r652 Options.lua: -- Fix ldb options error |
| 23:40.32 | Pneumatus_ | Binding TOGGLECURRENCY is defined more than once in Interface\FrameXML\Bindings.xml still not fixed on the latest build either :< |
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| 23:43.02 | Toadkiller | Pneumatus: Adding code to check if LS/CBH exists is insane. This is only usefull if you disembed, and doing so means you know what you are doing / can debug the inevitable cockups from acting like you know how to rearrange mod libs |
| 23:43.13 | Pneumatus | true that |
| 23:43.40 | Pneumatus | if you're embedding, you assume that the developer knows to embed the dependancies as well |
| 23:44.00 | Toadkiller | That is on the dev, not on some stupid user |
| 23:45.16 | Toadkiller | I dream of one day meeting the person that start disembedding and punching them in the face for all my time wasted on it |
| 23:45.33 | Toadkiller | *started |
| 23:45.45 | taleden | I feel that way about embedding sometimes, actually |
| 23:46.15 | taleden | after carefully selecting a more stable (non-HEAD) lib to embed, how do i know some other author won't stick in whatever the latest svn alpha he wants and replace mine? |
| 23:47.07 | Zhinjio | Toadkiller: I couldn't find a bugtracker for broker_currency, so i just posted in the forum thread. Not sure if you watch that actively |
| 23:47.24 | Repo | 10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03Dessa * r173 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: update deDE |
| 23:47.37 | Toadkiller | Zhinjio: I scan from time to time. ill go look |
| 23:48.18 | Toadkiller | taleden: That has nothing to do with this discussion. |
| 23:48.33 | Kuja^ | Zhinjio: found a typo in broker_hitcrit, in the Key ALERT_MSBTAREA_DESC |
| 23:49.21 | taleden | toadkiller: of course not, I was just commenting that embedding can have as many pitfalls as disembedding. sorry if I derailed your conversation :X |
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| 23:50.30 | Toadkiller | Zhinjio: Weird, it seems to be updating dalaran food for me. I will pay attention next time. |
| 23:52.15 | Toadkiller | taleden: Its nto derailed, its just the usual thing people bring up as if its just 2 sides of the same coin which this issue just completely and totally is not. |
| 23:52.25 | rapidgame | is this a valid if statement: if not (currentinslot == "Not Equipped" and tracking.inSlot[slotname] == "Not Equipped") then |
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| 23:52.38 | Zhinjio | Toadkiller: its just when you get the daralan cooking token from the bag, not when you get it as a quest reward |
| 23:52.51 | Zhinjio | I mean, you occasionally get the "bonus" one from the spice bag |
| 23:52.56 | Zhinjio | that one doesn't register |
| 23:53.01 | Toadkiller | oh really, didnt know! |
| 23:53.14 | Zhinjio | Kuja^: thanks, I'll take a look! |
| 23:53.19 | Toadkiller | crap, bag update can be frequent, esp with hunter arrows... |
| 23:53.25 | Zhinjio | yeah, I think with mustard dogs and the spice bag, you can get as many as three in one day |
| 23:53.57 | Toadkiller | uhm they reward different bags with different loot tables? |
| 23:53.59 | Pneumatus | hmm, weirdness taint.log is showing Mapster tainting LFGQuery() :o |
| 23:54.43 | Arrowmaster | the LFGQuery() taint is caused by the uidropdownmenus too |
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| 23:55.11 | Pneumatus | is it a dodgy blizzard cockup causing it then? |
| 23:55.41 | Zhinjio | Kuja^: fixed. Thanks |
| 23:56.08 | Zhinjio | it'll hit the next push, whenever that is |
| 23:56.23 | Pneumatus | Arrowmaster: guessing Mapster might be getting the blame as it uses AceGUIWidget-DropDown then, which uses UIDropDownMenuTemplate? |
| 23:56.44 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 23:59.43 | Bruners | what will the operator be if i want to check if value1 is 0 or less than 0 ? value1 <= 0 ? |
