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| 00:04.06 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r109 SMD_Menu.lua: |
| 00:04.08 | Repo | SimpleMD: fix problem with Enabling or Disabling the cooldown bars |
| 00:05.28 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia 043.0.2.1 * r110 : Tagging as 3.0.2.1 |
| 00:05.39 | Repo | 10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r49 / (3 files in 2 directories): Broker_RecZone: |
| 00:05.41 | Repo | - Hey stuff works |
| 00:05.47 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r132 LibLordFarlander-Glory-3.0/LibLordFarlander-Glory-3.0.lua: LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 00:05.53 | Repo | - Glory-3.0 runtime fixes |
| 00:05.53 | NeoTron | awesome commit message |
| 00:05.57 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky * r12 GnomishYellowPages.lua: GnomishYellowPages: |
| 00:06.01 | Repo | -fixed issue with smelting (or any other non-linkable trade) causing fatal crash |
| 00:08.05 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky 04r12beta * r13 : Tagging as r12beta |
| 00:10.17 | Repo | 10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander 043.0.50-beta * r50 : Tagging as 3.0.50-beta |
| 00:12.23 | Repo | 10calendar_broker: 03LordFarlander * r10 CoreCalendar.lua: Calendar_Broker: |
| 00:12.26 | Repo | - Another change to hours display... |
| 00:12.28 | Repo | - Change how 1 day holidays are done |
| 00:12.31 | Repo | 10prescription: 03Starinnia * r85 Prescription.toc: switch toc file to use project-version replacement |
| 00:17.13 | Repo | 10vendorsearch: 03adriweb * r15 .pkgmeta: deleting |
| 00:17.43 | Arrowmaster | Pneumatus: on ctmod.net theres an updated CT_RaidAssist, although updated is subjective since its still got things that are clearly broken, but its got lvl 80 reagents in the reagent check |
| 00:17.52 | Pneumatus | :o |
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| 00:19.01 | Repo | 10vendorsearch: 03adriweb * r16 alpha2/: for moving |
| 00:19.54 | Repo | 10vendorsearch: 03adriweb * r17 alpha2/a.pkgmeta: moving |
| 00:20.16 | Repo | 10vendorsearch: 03adriweb * r18 alpha2 (2 files in 1 directory): renaming |
| 00:20.37 | Trell- | anyone know who (used to) maintains ClosetGnome_Banker? |
| 00:20.46 | Repo | 10vendorsearch: 03adriweb * r19 / (2 files in 2 directories): renaming |
| 00:20.54 | Repo | 10vendorsearch: 03adriweb * r20 alpha2/: renaming |
| 00:21.02 | Trell- | its about the only addon I seriously miss :( |
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| 00:24.40 | doom0r | nope, don't |
| 00:24.41 | doom0r | @project closetgnome_banker |
| 00:24.42 | Repo | doom0r: No project found that matches 'closetgnome_banker' |
| 00:24.55 | Pneumatus | @project closet_gnome_banker |
| 00:24.57 | Repo | Pneumatus: No project found that matches 'closet_gnome_banker' |
| 00:24.58 | doom0r | repo don't either |
| 00:24.59 | Trell- | it says its updated |
| 00:25.05 | Trell- | but it doesn't actually work :( |
| 00:25.30 | doom0r | @project closet-gnome_banker |
| 00:25.31 | Repo | doom0r: http://www.wowace.com/projects/closet-gnome_banker/. ClosetGnome_Banker. Game: WoW. Rabbit (Manager/Author). Updated: 86 days ago. Tickets: 5/5 |
| 00:26.01 | Pneumatus | looks like mikk has a clone |
| 00:26.11 | doom0r | mmm, reminds me |
| 00:26.19 | Pneumatus | http://www.wowace.com/projects/closet-gnome_banker/repositories/mikk/ |
| 00:26.24 | doom0r | need a freaking non-admin way to view what has clones |
| 00:26.41 | Pneumatus | just click the repositories heaer :o |
| 00:26.43 | Pneumatus | *header |
| 00:26.56 | doom0r | .... |
| 00:27.01 | doom0r | ~lart Pneumatus |
| 00:27.01 | purl | urinates on Pneumatus |
| 00:27.09 | doom0r | hot |
| 00:27.34 | Mikk | and yeah i've been poking vhaarr about using my clone. he just seems mostly afk. |
| 00:27.39 | doom0r | ya, obviously i meant overall view rather than repeatedly checking projects |
| 00:27.46 | Mikk | because, yeah, closetgnome_banker is unusable half the time now |
| 00:27.51 | Mikk | full bags -> shit breaks down |
| 00:27.53 | Pneumatus | his PC was busted over xmas or something i think he said |
| 00:27.53 | Xinhuan | vhaarr's computer was broken all of last month |
| 00:27.58 | Xinhuan | he's actively back since 2 days ago |
| 00:28.00 | Pneumatus | but he's back now |
| 00:28.11 | Xinhuan | so go pester him |
| 00:28.16 | ckknight | hooray for clones |
| 00:28.22 | Mikk | (or, well, it's unusable in my own opinion, and in the opinion of everyone in my guild. but i'm not sure vhaarr agrees himself.) |
| 00:28.43 | Mikk | "then it's not for you, download something else" <- default answer |
| 00:29.46 | Trell- | :( |
| 00:29.50 | Trell- | I really want banker to work |
| 00:29.54 | Trell- | really, really really |
| 00:29.56 | Mikk | well, my clone works |
| 00:30.00 | Pneumatus | well, fixing broken things is one thing |
| 00:30.29 | Mikk | Pneumatus: well, thing is, it works, if your bags and bank all have enough space to shovel everything into one place |
| 00:30.36 | Mikk | which it never does for me |
| 00:30.59 | Mikk | oh and it also requires you to be the same level that you were when you created the set |
| 00:30.59 | Trell- | Mikk; it doesn't actually give me the menu :O |
| 00:31.33 | Mikk | Trell-: trunk banker requires you to go into the options (via Escape->Interface), set what you want, and then go and open the bank |
| 00:31.45 | Mikk | And then pray that it works |
| 00:31.52 | Mikk | Because it won't try again for another 10 minutes |
| 00:32.08 | Mikk | Mine has "Banker" in the menu, with a "Flush and Get" button in the dialog |
| 00:32.14 | Trell- | mmm mine doesnt |
| 00:32.21 | Mikk | then you're not using my clone are you :P |
| 00:32.46 | Trell- | obviously not |
| 00:32.49 | Mikk | hint: there's no downloadable files for clones; they have to be gotten via SVN |
| 00:33.40 | Mikk | I'm wondering if I should just make a new cg_banker entirely |
| 00:33.42 | Trell- | SVN'ing it up now |
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| 00:33.47 | Mikk | Because I want more out of it |
| 00:33.47 | Trell- | please do Mikk |
| 00:33.54 | Trell- | although I'll try this now |
| 00:33.56 | Pneumatus | actually Mikk, there are |
| 00:33.58 | Pneumatus | http://www.wowace.com/projects/closet-gnome_banker/repositories/mikk/files/ |
| 00:33.58 | Mikk | I want it to swap out stuff I'm wearing too |
| 00:34.30 | Mikk | And be generally smarter about how it swaps stuff (item for item, not everything-into-bags-then-unwanted-stuff-to-bank) |
| 00:34.41 | Mikk | So it actually stands a chance to work for joe user |
| 00:34.54 | Mikk | But that requires more code, which I'm sure vhaarr won't want in his |
| 00:35.40 | Mikk | ooooh "Files for this clone" |
| 00:35.45 | Mikk | first time i see that |
| 00:35.46 | onaforeignshore | which means forking :p |
| 00:36.03 | Pneumatus | yeh, its easy to miss |
| 00:36.08 | Pneumatus | it's not where you'd expect it to be |
| 00:36.21 | Nechckn | Mikk more addon fun? |
| 00:36.35 | Nechckn | scurries off to find said clone. |
| 00:36.38 | Mikk | Nah i'm just emoraging on rabbit |
| 00:39.49 | Repo | 10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 * r44 / (2 files in 1 directory): JebusMail: |
| 00:39.52 | Repo | - Added option to include/exclude friends/guildies |
| 00:41.03 | Repo | 10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 04v3.03f * r45 : JebusMail: |
| 00:41.06 | Repo | - Added option to include/exclude friends/guildies |
| 00:42.22 | Trell- | I give up |
| 00:42.27 | Trell- | im being severly retarded |
| 00:42.31 | Trell- | I cannot get it working |
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| 00:43.36 | Trell- | just rewrite the whole thing, Mikk |
| 00:43.37 | Trell- | ^^ |
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| 00:44.39 | Repo | 10enhancedcalendar: 03Pericles * r13 / (2 files in 2 directories): RaidInviter: - |
| 00:44.41 | Repo | initially works and gets list of events. Now need to work on getting list of invitees |
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| 00:45.32 | Repo | 10buttonfacade: 03StormFX * r204 Locales (2 files in 1 directory): - Update zhTW/zhCN. (digmouse) |
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| 00:46.40 | doom0r | Fixed a bug with a Wild Mustard plant that was under the ground in Dalaran. |
| 00:46.51 | doom0r | i like how they word that |
| 00:47.04 | doom0r | should just be, ya, we fucked up, mustards fixed |
| 00:47.18 | WobWork | I hate finding nodes under the ground |
| 00:47.33 | Primer | got, I hate the mustard |
| 00:47.34 | WobWork | It's like I spend ages circling the spot... -just- to make sure I'm not being blind |
| 00:47.38 | Primer | I've actually gotten it before |
| 00:48.40 | ckknight | ~x en de Hello, World! |
| 00:49.25 | onaforeignshore | ~x en de Cool! :p |
| 00:50.20 | Trell- | why does it assume a german face with a tongue hanging out has more of a gap between the eyes and mouth than a normal one? |
| 00:50.25 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/repository-keyword-substitutions/ by ckknight |
| 00:50.28 | Trell- | thats out of order. |
| 00:50.36 | ckknight | you're out of order! |
| 00:50.39 | Olison | Nothings out of order in Germany |
| 00:50.41 | Trell- | :( |
| 00:50.45 | onaforeignshore | germans have a space in-between? :p |
| 00:51.49 | Gnarfoz | watch out or we'll export some order your way |
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| 00:51.51 | ckknight | widely-spaced eyes is a sign of fetal alcohol syndrome |
| 00:51.51 | Gnarfoz | :p |
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| 00:56.17 | ckknight | okay, well, anyone using the localization app should check out http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/repository-keyword-substitutions/#w_localization |
| 00:56.52 | viisual | So I'm looking at the best ranked pvp dk currently, and he has 135 spell pen... thoughts? |
| 00:57.14 | WobWork | Germans have longer faces |
| 00:57.16 | WobWork | clearly |
| 00:59.13 | onaforeignshore | ckknight: 2 questions... 1. for my localized addon to work locally before I upload it, I would need to have a full language table in the --@debug@ and --@end-debug@ section and create a new phrase online every time I add another entry? --- 2. If I just import the whole thing again, will it skip existing entries, and if not, will the localized versions still be linked to the enUS ones? |
| 00:59.51 | ckknight | (1) if your keys are different from your values, yes, or you can not care in dev mode |
| 00:59.52 | Zhinjio | have you guys ever seen an instance where the color pickers in the default chatframe will all go white and not let you modify any of them anymore? |
| 01:00.00 | Zhinjio | chatter/telltrack all disabled |
| 01:00.20 | Torhal | Zhinjio: You broke the default UI this time? |
| 01:00.22 | ckknight | (2) it'll try to update, if nothing's changed, no updat |
| 01:00.24 | ckknight | update* |
| 01:00.29 | Zhinjio | not me, my GL |
| 01:00.48 | Zhinjio | she's just smart enough with addons to be dangerous, but every once in awhile, she does *something* and allhell breaks loose |
| 01:00.54 | Zhinjio | so of course, I'm the only one that can help her |
| 01:00.58 | Zhinjio | but I've never seen thsi before. |
| 01:01.44 | Torhal | Did you ask which recent addons were enabled? |
| 01:01.47 | Torhal | erikh, installed. |
| 01:01.51 | Torhal | Err.. |
| 01:02.00 | Torhal | I need a new damn keyboard. |
| 01:03.18 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: my guess is something is hooking the chatframe wrong |
| 01:03.20 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1337 / (3 files in 3 directories): |
| 01:03.23 | Repo | Add scan command to command line, add sunwell trash to custom db |
| 01:04.17 | onaforeignshore | ckknight: If I have my whole list in the --@debug@ and --@end-debug@ section, would it be able to import the values from there automatically, or am I asking too much now? |
| 01:04.32 | ckknight | no |
| 01:04.35 | ckknight | it won't |
| 01:04.38 | ckknight | nor will I add that |
| 01:04.47 | ckknight | also, why do you need to? are your keys different from your values? |
| 01:05.02 | onaforeignshore | a few are |
| 01:05.13 | ckknight | any that _really_ make a difference in dev mode? |
| 01:05.17 | Zhinjio | hmm, disabling clearfont seems to have gotten them back |
| 01:05.22 | Zhinjio | only recent install was dbm4 |
| 01:05.37 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Tell her to get Fontain |
| 01:05.46 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: because if not, just do LibStub("AceLocale-3.0"):NewLocale("MyAddon", "enUS", true, true) |
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| 01:05.48 | Torhal | CF2 is dead. |
| 01:05.49 | ckknight | bam, free locale |
| 01:06.01 | ckknight | L["Key"] == "Key" without errors |
| 01:06.10 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r169 / (3 files in 1 directory): RaidBuffStatus: |
| 01:06.12 | Repo | - Fixed and improved Paladin blessing checking. |
| 01:06.14 | Zhinjio | yeah, just pointed her to fontain |
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| 01:06.25 | onaforeignshore | thanks |
| 01:07.00 | Arrowmaster | fuck this shit |
| 01:07.25 | Arrowmaster | fucking convention at the legerdemain atleast 3 days in a row now |
| 01:07.35 | Arrowmaster | i refuse to do that damn daily |
| 01:07.58 | Ackis | lmao Arrowmaster 2x in a row here |
| 01:08.06 | doom0r | its easy |
| 01:08.11 | doom0r | go kill gorillas in shola |
| 01:08.19 | Arrowmaster | i dont have any chilled meat and i dont feel like farming it |
| 01:08.58 | Ackis | @ticket curseforge 1024 |
| 01:08.59 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1024 - Auto-generate locale files for a project. Reported by: Ackis. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 3 days ago. Component: Localization. Status: Accepted. Priority: Medium. Assignee: ckknight. Votes: 0. Comments: 0 |
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| 01:09.03 | Ackis | ckknight ^ |
| 01:09.13 | Ackis | you said you were working on that just wondering the status? |
| 01:09.16 | Ackis | or if I'm confused |
| 01:09.27 | ckknight | lol |
| 01:09.33 | ckknight | you joined right after I was talking about it |
| 01:09.33 | doom0r | does he have to be working on it or not for you to be confused? |
| 01:09.37 | Ackis | lol |
| 01:09.40 | ckknight | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/repository-keyword-substitutions/#w_localization |
| 01:09.48 | ckknight | read |
| 01:09.50 | ckknight | and weep |
| 01:10.37 | Ackis | why weep? that arouses me |
| 01:10.39 | onaforeignshore | ckknight: I need to remove those anyway, so good motivation, thanks |
| 01:12.11 | Ackis | will that affect people who install via the repo (ie: svn)? or does svn do the substitution? |
| 01:12.13 | doom0r | L["Congratulate!"] = "I see your Schwartz is as big as mine!" |
| 01:13.03 | doom0r | mmm, i can see an april fools joke in the making |
| 01:13.04 | Arrowmaster | svn never does any substitution except its own |
| 01:16.28 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1338 Locals/testenUS.lua: Testing out the new autolocale system wheeee! |
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| 01:18.02 | Xinhuan | buy it off the AH, Arrowmaster |
| 01:18.10 | Xinhuan | buy a stack and keep extras in bank |
| 01:18.44 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: can you prefix the @localization@ with --? |
| 01:18.52 | ckknight | Ackis: yea, it won't get any substitutions if they don't use the zips |
| 01:18.52 | ckknight | Ackis: |
| 01:18.52 | ckknight | nor should they necessarily expect to |
| 01:18.52 | ckknight | svn = you're using a dev version |
| 01:18.54 | ckknight | ooh: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1231463484320.jpg |
| 01:18.56 | ckknight | semi-SFW |
| 01:19.00 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1339 Locals/testenUS.lua: Fix error I think? |
| 01:19.15 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: well, you'll cause the first line to be commented out. |
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| 01:19.30 | ckknight | hrm |
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| 01:19.36 | ckknight | I could make it put a newline at the start |
| 01:19.39 | Xinhuan | remember commit hooks |
| 01:19.53 | Xinhuan | prevent non-lua compilable files to be commited :) |
| 01:19.53 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yea, that's what the non-debug stuff handles |
| 01:20.23 | Arrowmaster | or just add -?-? to your replacement regex |
| 01:20.53 | Ackis | yah 1338 had it as -- @localization@ the second one was a c&p of the example |
| 01:20.56 | Arrowmaster | (?:--)? is that right? |
| 01:21.41 | ckknight | :-) |
| 01:22.04 | ckknight | but yea, I can do that, Arrowmaster |
| 01:22.52 | Ackis | I think -- @localization@ is a lot simpler than the debug/no-debug stuff |
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| 01:24.28 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r93 / (2 files in 1 directory): test localzation stuffs |
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| 01:25.49 | Ackis | ckknight: so what's your preference for how we do this? |
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| 01:26.29 | ckknight | worked |
| 01:27.09 | ckknight | Ackis: how do you mean? |
| 01:27.35 | Ackis | do you want people to do the debug stuff, or is it better to just do --@ |
| 01:27.56 | onaforeignshore | @localization@ or @debug@ I think |
| 01:28.20 | ckknight | let's go with --@loc |
| 01:28.22 | ckknight | it's easier |
| 01:28.30 | ckknight | not sure how best to do the AceLocale hack, though |
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| 01:29.21 | ckknight | cause it should be LibStub("AceLocale-3.0"):NewLocale("MyAddon", "enUS", true, true) in dev mode |
| 01:29.26 | ckknight | but LibStub("AceLocale-3.0"):NewLocale("MyAddon", "enUS", true) otherwise |
| 01:29.38 | onaforeignshore | @dev-loc@ and @loc@ |
| 01:29.43 | ckknight | no, onaforeignshore |
| 01:29.48 | ckknight | that's not possible |
| 01:31.34 | Ackis | http://www.wowace.com/paste/106/ |
| 01:31.40 | Ackis | that makes it a bit cleaner? |
| 01:32.39 | Pneumatus | what's the 4th arg to acelocale? |
| 01:32.49 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/repository-keyword-substitutions/ by ckknight |
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| 01:32.59 | ckknight | see my horrid hack |
| 01:33.07 | ckknight | Pneumatus: it prevents AceLocale from erroring on a nonexistant key |
| 01:33.27 | Pneumatus | formatting fail, ckknight |
| 01:33.34 | ckknight | how so? |
| 01:33.39 | Ackis | hah that is horrid but I like |
| 01:33.47 | Pneumatus | you missed a <code><pre> |
| 01:33.54 | ckknight | whoopsie doodle |
| 01:33.55 | Xinhuan | i wouldn't care about the 4th arg at all |
| 01:34.06 | Xinhuan | because you WANT it to error so you know what keys don't exist to fix it |
| 01:34.23 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/repository-keyword-substitutions/ by ckknight |
| 01:34.24 | Pneumatus | if anything, you'd want to surpress errors on a non-debug, not a debug |
| 01:34.26 | Xinhuan | the error from acelocale is also only 1-time |
| 01:34.44 | Xinhuan | acelocale errors it once, then adds the missing key to the locale table so it never errors again in the same session |
| 01:34.46 | ckknight | Xinhuan: except if you don't put in any translations in dev mode and let the packager handle that for you |
| 01:34.49 | ckknight | like I do in PitBull4. |
| 01:35.01 | Xinhuan | then yes you would geta flood |
| 01:35.09 | ckknight | right, I don't want that. |
| 01:35.30 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: do the --@debug@ --@end-debug@ only work at the beginning of a line? |
| 01:35.31 | ckknight | I have more important errors to worry about |
| 01:35.38 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: no |
| 01:35.53 | Pneumatus | would be cleaner to have them comment in-line then |
| 01:35.59 | Pneumatus | rather than horrible linebreaks |
| 01:36.06 | ckknight | they need linebreaks |
| 01:36.15 | ckknight | since -- is an end-of-line comment |
| 01:36.32 | ckknight | I want it to turn into a multiline comment on packaging |
| 01:36.35 | Pneumatus | i thought it was only end of line unless [[ follows |
| 01:36.36 | ckknight | but not so in dev |
| 01:36.44 | ckknight | right |
| 01:36.55 | Pneumatus | hmm |
| 01:37.02 | ckknight | I _don't_ want it to comment out in dev mode |
| 01:37.27 | ckknight | actually, I have a nicer way of doing this. |
| 01:37.39 | Pneumatus | acelocale needs a separate function |
| 01:37.45 | Pneumatus | to set the 4th arg |
| 01:37.58 | Pneumatus | so you dont have to do it on instanciation |
| 01:38.09 | Xinhuan | or have a separate tag |
| 01:38.12 | Xinhuan | i mean |
| 01:38.19 | Xinhuan | have a separate substition keyword |
| 01:38.20 | Pneumatus | L:SetStrict(true) or something |
| 01:38.31 | Xinhuan | @debugloc@ ---> "local wowacedebug = true" |
| 01:38.40 | rubik | t/t |
| 01:38.43 | rubik | mt |
| 01:38.46 | Xinhuan | LibStub("AceLocale-3.0"):NewLocale("MyAddon", "enUS", wowacedebug) |
| 01:38.48 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/repository-keyword-substitutions/ by ckknight |
| 01:38.51 | Pneumatus | yeh, you could do it with a local variable, then pass it as an arg |
| 01:38.53 | ckknight | Xinhuan: hehe, I did that |
| 01:38.53 | Xinhuan | LibStub("AceLocale-3.0"):NewLocale("MyAddon", "enUS", true, wowacedebug) i mean |
| 01:38.56 | ckknight | similar, at least |
| 01:38.58 | ckknight | check it out |
| 01:39.06 | Xinhuan | its hackish |
| 01:39.19 | ckknight | what I did is far less hackish |
| 01:39.34 | Pneumatus | i would be nicer if you had a way to set the AceLocale surpress with a separate function |
| 01:39.40 | Ackis | so right now the only downside to this implementation is the issue of not getting warnings for missing translations in enUS? |
| 01:39.43 | ckknight | Pneumatus: talk to nevcairiel about that |
| 01:39.56 | ckknight | Ackis: right |
| 01:40.53 | Xinhuan | but that's only in debug mode |
| 01:41.04 | Xinhuan | in non-debug, you'll still get errors to fix with |
| 01:41.08 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 01:41.09 | Pneumatus | yeh, in beta/release zips you'd get errorspam |
| 01:41.16 | ckknight | as well you should |
| 01:41.18 | ckknight | put in your localizations |
| 01:41.27 | ckknight | well, your phrases |
| 01:41.52 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:41.54 | ckknight | I'm gonna go home |
| 01:42.02 | ckknight | and chat up various floozies |
| 01:42.05 | ckknight | cya all later |
| 01:42.15 | Pneumatus | the knowledge base needs syntax highlighting :> |
| 01:42.20 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:42.25 | ckknight | but that's basically impossible as-is |
| 01:42.29 | ckknight | our parser is fucking shit |
| 01:42.42 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 01:43.02 | Pneumatus | are @debug@ and @alpha@ the same? |
| 01:43.30 | ckknight | no |
| 01:43.44 | ckknight | @alpha@ doesn't change in alpha zips |
| 01:43.47 | ckknight | @debug@ does |
| 01:43.51 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r13 tomQuest2.lua: |
| 01:43.54 | Repo | modify the LibQTip custom Cell Provider to add custom left indentation (5Px for quests, 10 Px for objectives) |
| 01:44.02 | ckknight | for example, my PitBull4 expectation clauses are wrapped in @alpha@ |
| 01:44.09 | ckknight | so that for beta and release tags, they don't occur |
| 01:44.11 | ckknight | but they do for alphas |
| 01:44.19 | Pneumatus | so alpha == non-debug? |
| 01:44.23 | ckknight | no. |
| 01:44.28 | ckknight | it's different levels |
| 01:44.45 | ckknight | debug -> alpha -> beta/release |
| 01:45.02 | ckknight | debug occurs when you're hacking with git/svn/hg |
| 01:45.11 | ckknight | alpha occurs when the packager runs, makes a non-tag zip |
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| 01:45.30 | ckknight | alright, I'll cya later |
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| 01:51.31 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r4897 Naxxramas/Noth.lua: BigWigs: Naxxramas/Noth: |
| 01:51.34 | Repo | - Fix blink |
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| 01:54.54 | Xinhuan | err work -> home = 7 min ckknight? |
| 01:55.17 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:55.19 | ckknight | this one left turn always takes up like 3 minutes |
| 01:55.25 | Xinhuan | >.> |
| 01:55.26 | Xinhuan | <.< |
| 01:55.57 | Ackis | i hate you so much |
| 01:56.01 | Ackis | 30-45 mins for me to get home |
| 01:56.15 | taleden | I walk to work, bout 5 mins =D |
| 01:56.15 | doom0r | my last job was 30 miles from home |
| 01:56.15 | ckknight | lol |
| 01:56.20 | doom0r | min hour travel |
| 01:56.23 | ckknight | work is 3 miles from home |
| 01:56.26 | ckknight | I hate traveling |
| 01:56.34 | ckknight | feels like a waste of time |
| 01:56.38 | Xinhuan | should live in the office :) |
| 01:56.38 | Ackis | anyways regarding the enUS stuff missing, do you have any solutions thought up to be able to test that? |
| 01:56.39 | doom0r | it is |
| 01:56.43 | Ackis | travelling is a waste of time |
| 01:56.56 | Ackis | after my post-work fart, I don't need to travel |
| 01:57.14 | Xinhuan | they had this brilliant thing called "shophouses" in the past 100 years ago |
| 01:57.43 | doom0r | ponders "in the past 100 years ago" |
| 01:58.12 | Xinhuan | add a comma between past and 100 |
| 01:58.45 | Xinhuan | ok grammatically, it's redundant >.> <.< ^.^ |
| 01:58.47 | Ackis | and ckknight I closed ticket 1024 |
| 01:58.54 | ckknight | okay, cool |
| 01:59.08 | ckknight | take out ago |
| 01:59.12 | Ackis | made 1023 invalid (the header/footer) |
| 01:59.16 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:59.23 | doom0r | A shophouse is a vernacular architectural building type that is both native and unique to urban Southeast Asia. |
| 01:59.25 | doom0r | bullshit |
| 01:59.35 | doom0r | there's plenty of them in the states |
| 02:00.01 | ckknight | Ackis: the way I handle localizations is that whenever I add a new L[] string locally, I add the phrase. Every now and again, I check that the alpha runs without errors |
| 02:00.08 | onaforeignshore | lots of UK shops have a home on the 1st floor |
| 02:00.22 | Ackis | and I'm gonna harass you for do 1021 (translator role now) plus maybe make a new one regarding a solution for enUS new locales |
| 02:00.22 | doom0r | second floor damn it |
| 02:00.30 | Ackis | ckknight: yah I try to do that but I miss them every once in a while |
| 02:00.53 | onaforeignshore | cant you have that the enUS one has to be done correctly and the translations are auto-generated? |
| 02:01.45 | Ackis | I could have L["foo"] in my mod but forget to add it to enUS |
| 02:01.58 | onaforeignshore | then the user can specify the enUS filename and it can import from there instead of copy and paste |
| 02:02.09 | onaforeignshore | then that would throw an error |
| 02:02.39 | Ackis | it's very minor IMO, ckk's workflow would work |
| 02:03.01 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03Xinhuan * r639 Locales/GatherMate-deDE.lua: Fix Manarochen -> Mantarochen |
| 02:03.32 | taleden | anyone know a way to get a pointer to the function that called your function? debugstack() gives a name, kind of, but I need the reference itself :/ |
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| 02:05.40 | Ackis | being lazy, what is the first boolean value for ace locale do? |
| 02:06.57 | Xinhuan | i don't think that's possible taleden, then again who knows ;p |
| 02:07.28 | Xinhuan | Ackis, sets the base locale |
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| 02:07.49 | Xinhuan | that is, that locale's keys are used as base |
| 02:08.06 | ckknight | taleden: no way |
| 02:08.40 | Xinhuan | if you have enUS as base, then the table would be whatever u defined in enUS |
| 02:09.06 | Xinhuan | if you have deDE as base, and your deDE file contained L["abcd"] = "xyz", it would use "abcd" as the base |
| 02:09.36 | Xinhuan | that is to say, missing translations would look up that base table |
| 02:10.12 | Pneumatus | /facepalm @ alpha7 |
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| 02:10.40 | Ackis | ahh ok |
| 02:10.45 | Xinhuan | its actually a lot simpler than that |
| 02:10.50 | Xinhuan | acelocale-3 only maintains ONE table |
| 02:11.08 | Xinhuan | lets say enUS is the base and you defined L["abc"] = "abc" |
| 02:11.19 | Xinhuan | then in deDE, you wrote L["abc"] = "xyz" |
| 02:11.19 | onaforeignshore | function AceLocale:NewLocale(application, locale, isDefault, silent) |
| 02:11.35 | Xinhuan | what happens is that internally, acelocale's SINGLE table is updated to read L["abc"] = "xyz" |
| 02:11.40 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1340 Locals (5 files in 1 directory): Add more localization testy thingies |
| 02:12.09 | Xinhuan | that is, its always L[base key] = "translated text" |
| 02:12.22 | Xinhuan | where base key is defined in the base locale |
| 02:13.04 | Xinhuan | as a consequence of having only 1 table, you can't reverse lookup without iterating |
| 02:13.23 | Xinhuan | but few applications need reverse lookup, so you can always generate your own table |
| 02:15.40 | Repo | 10liboop: 03taleden * r6 / (6 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 11 lines) |
| 02:15.43 | Repo | - please note that 0.2 is NOT backwards compatible with 0.1.3 |
| 02:15.45 | Repo | - almost all methods have been renamed for better clarity and consistency |
| 02:15.47 | Repo | - now supports runtime-upgrades via LibStub |
| 02:15.50 | Repo | - the "Super" method of both classes and objects should now work when called via a subclass of the class which defined the method which calls Super() |
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| 02:20.34 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal * r42 / (4 files in 1 directory): Re-structured code layout. |
| 02:20.37 | Repo | Now using AceAddon and AceHook. |
| 02:21.58 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r26 Core.lua: |
| 02:22.01 | Repo | CPR: undo some DB craziness, hopefully fixed any and all remaining strangeness with settings |
| 02:23.52 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-3-0: 03jlam * r22 LibHealComm-3.0.lua: |
| 02:23.55 | Repo | Move Tidal Waves bonus back to proper spot in the calculations. |
| 02:24.02 | Repo | 10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken * r2 / (6 files in 1 directory): Initial import. |
| 02:32.01 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r27 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 02:32.03 | Repo | really fix the strange behavior with settings, darn references |
| 02:34.49 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r28 ComboPointsRedux.toc: add @project-version@ to toc |
| 02:35.37 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia 041.0.5 * r29 : Tagging as 1.0.5 |
| 02:37.21 | Repo | 10liboop: 03taleden * r7 LibOOP-0.2.lua: improved code comment formatting for luadoc |
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| 02:57.44 | Repo | 10liboop: 03taleden * r9 LibOOP-0.2.lua: more luadoc-friendly tweaks |
| 02:58.17 | NivFreak | they are nerfing affliction locks? |
| 02:58.18 | NivFreak | lol? |
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| 03:00.07 | ant1pathy | ok, the CC alpha is hanging itself |
| 03:00.31 | taleden | any wowace admins about? |
| 03:00.51 | ant1pathy | i can't give it my login information because it won't update |
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| 03:00.58 | ant1pathy | it won't update because it won't close |
| 03:01.06 | ant1pathy | it won't close because i can't give it my login information |
| 03:01.40 | Zhinjio | LF good raid leader. |
| 03:01.44 | Zhinjio | sighs. |
| 03:01.49 | Starinnia | LF good raid group |
| 03:03.20 | Repo | 10liboop: 03taleden 040.2-beta * r10 : Tagging as 0.2-beta |
| 03:04.05 | Repo | 10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 07master * v3.0.6 Omen.toc: [+1 commit] Update Omen version to v3.0.6 |
| 03:04.17 | Repo | 10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 04v3.0.6 * ea1e5a3 /: [new tag] Tag release v3.0.6 |
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| 03:04.23 | Repo | - Glory-3.0: Fix some patterns |
| 03:04.47 | Repo | 10broker_battlegroundfu: 03LordFarlander * r6 Broker_BattlegroundFu.lua: Broker_BattlegroundFu |
| 03:04.50 | Repo | - Fix a couple of formats |
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| 03:08.15 | Repo | 10calendar_broker: 03LordFarlander * r11 CoreCalendar.lua: Calendar_Broker: |
| 03:08.17 | Repo | - Maybe this hours works :p |
| 03:10.07 | doom0r | ... |
| 03:10.13 | doom0r | i logged my buddy's horde pally |
| 03:10.19 | doom0r | he has both fire and crusader auras on |
| 03:11.49 | Repo | 10mtarget: 03gameldar * r2 / (5 files in 1 directory): |
| 03:11.52 | Repo | Initial commit of the package. Works with slash commands - but the UI is not there yet. |
| 03:12.01 | Repo | 10prescription: 03Starinnia * r86 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 03:12.03 | Repo | add check to make sure people aren't cheating with Shatt flasks in WotLK content |
| 03:12.23 | Repo | 10plunk: 03catamorfizm 07master * 525e2e9 / (4 files in 1 directory): [new, +3 commits] |
| 03:12.26 | Repo | 525e2e9: implement basic plunk, unplunk, achievement spam, and unintelligible language spam filtering -- with interface options UI |
| 03:12.28 | Repo | 86392fd: pkgmeta, starting lua, and xml files |
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| 03:12.34 | Repo | 1a6b67e: toc file |
| 03:14.37 | Repo | 10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken * r3 / (3 files in 1 directory): -Added possibility to toggle anchor using the LDB icon. |
| 03:14.37 | Repo | -New LDB icon. |
| 03:18.07 | taleden | anyone know an example of a library whose own distribution includes a .toc to run disembedded, but can also be embedded via another project's .pkgmeta? |
| 03:18.33 | Zhinjio | ace3 |
| 03:19.11 | Arrowmaster | why do you need an example? |
| 03:20.29 | taleden | because I've never done it before? :) wanted to make sure i understood how its supposed to look |
| 03:20.38 | Repo | 10vendorsearch: 03adriweb * r21 alpha2/: newfolder |
| 03:26.31 | Repo | 10vendorsearch: 03adriweb * r22 alpha2/: delete |
| 03:30.26 | ulic | almost all libs on wowace should be that way. |
| 03:31.10 | taleden | aye, simple enough |
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| 03:41.09 | Repo | HeadCount: |
| 03:41.21 | Repo | - Added Spanish localization. |
| 03:41.24 | Repo | - Fixed Death Knight label in loot management popup frame. |
| 03:41.27 | Repo | - Fixed localized class names mistakenly being used for internal comparison. |
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| 03:48.50 | Repo | 10gem-helper: 03Xinhuan 04v1.8.0 * r82 : Tag v1.8.0 |
| 03:49.51 | Arrowmaster | time to cross my fingers, about to spend a lot of gold to craft an item thats only yellow and i really need the skillup |
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| 03:50.19 | Zao | crosses his thumbs |
| 03:50.34 | Repo | 10head-count: 03seppyk * r68 .docmeta: HeadCount: |
| 03:50.46 | Repo | - Adding initial docmeta file. |
| 03:50.47 | Primer | earthquake |
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| 03:54.35 | Arrowmaster | just bought the rest of the mats i need to make a flying carpet and a magnificent flying carpet, i need the skillup from the flying carpet to make the magnificent flying carpet |
| 03:54.36 | Repo | 10grid-mana-bars: 037destiny * r61 GridStatusMana.lua: GridManaBars: |
| 03:54.39 | Repo | - unitGuid version of Grid to work |
| 03:54.41 | Repo | - Switch Roster-2.1 -> GridRoster.lua |
| 03:54.41 | Arrowmaster | going to kick myself if i dont get it |
| 03:55.03 | Hirsute | ~luck Arrowmaster |
| 03:55.14 | Hirsute | Well, that's too bad. |
| 03:56.02 | Arrowmaster | if i dont i guess i can just wait a day for my cloth cooldown to be up since those are cheap |
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| 03:57.53 | Arrowmaster | kicks himself |
| 03:58.49 | Primer | Arrowmaster: damn, I made mine a LONG time ago |
| 03:58.57 | Arrowmaster | im slow |
| 03:59.02 | Arrowmaster | and cheap |
| 03:59.02 | Primer | 448 tailoring...getting skill from 22 slot bags now |
| 03:59.11 | Primer | heh, I spent a lot of gold leveling this crap up |
| 03:59.14 | Arrowmaster | been making 20 slot bags for other people |
| 03:59.21 | Primer | I hate the damn carpet, I wish they'd fix it |
| 03:59.28 | Arrowmaster | they are i heard |
| 03:59.40 | Primer | either make it a vehicle and make it do something I can't do on a mount, or just make it a mount |
| 03:59.52 | Primer | What are they doing to it? |
| 04:00.09 | Arrowmaster | heard they were removing the animations |
| 04:00.16 | Arrowmaster | not sure |
| 04:00.16 | Primer | that's all? |
| 04:00.24 | Primer | there's nothing wrong with that aspect |
| 04:00.27 | Arrowmaster | why what else is wrong with it? |
| 04:00.31 | Primer | what I can't stand is not being able to dismount |
| 04:00.36 | Primer | using /dismount |
| 04:00.38 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 04:00.48 | Arrowmaster | you can script it |
| 04:00.48 | Primer | and being able to dismount on spell cast |
| 04:00.52 | Torhal | And if you logout while mounted on it, you'll login falling |
| 04:00.57 | Arrowmaster | yeah the logout sucks |
| 04:01.09 | Primer | like, target mob/player, cast, and be dismounted |
| 04:01.12 | Repo | 10vendorsearch: 03adriweb * r23 Core.lua: new version |
| 04:01.20 | Primer | instead of the crappy dismount animation |
| 04:01.26 | Arrowmaster | you can do quests like the dragonblight daily to pickup the pups from it though |
| 04:01.35 | Arrowmaster | and you are immune to the mobs nets |
| 04:02.00 | Primer | which no longer works with /dismount |
| 04:02.12 | Primer | I could have _sworn_ it once worked with /dismount |
| 04:04.09 | Repo | 10vendorsearch: 03adriweb 04v0.1 * r24 : Tagging as v1.0 |
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| 04:06.33 | Primer | heh, I did that daily like, once |
| 04:06.42 | Primer | at 73 |
| 04:07.32 | Primer | I decided I didn't need the epic fishing pole, since I'm a lock |
| 04:07.38 | Primer | well, my main |
| 04:09.24 | Dashkal | I need a reality check, my math seems too good to be true. What's the chance that a level 83 (boss) will parry one of my attacks? |
| 04:09.39 | Repo | 10grid: 03Sayclub * r1113 GridLocale-koKR.lua: koKR Update |
| 04:10.28 | Arrowmaster | i only want the minipet |
| 04:10.42 | Arrowmaster | ive got the tourny pole already |
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| 04:13.40 | Arrowmaster | fuck yeah i got the last book i needed for higher learning! |
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| 04:14.00 | Zhinjio | that took me like 4 solid days of doing nothing else |
| 04:14.07 | Zhinjio | but its a great reward |
| 04:15.06 | WobWork | Dashkal: wouldn't your expertise affect that? |
| 04:15.26 | Dashkal | WobWork: I'm asking because my math says I'm unparryable |
| 04:15.32 | Primer | what is a great reward? |
| 04:15.33 | Repo | 10mtarget: 03gameldar * r3 / (2 files in 1 directory): * Added in the svn:externals for the ace libraries. |
| 04:15.35 | Repo | * Rewrote the command parsing for the main command function |
| 04:15.39 | Dashkal | Which since I didn't try for it seems too good to be true |
| 04:15.58 | Zhinjio | Higher Learning |
| 04:16.04 | Zhinjio | has a great reward |
| 04:16.05 | Primer | what does it provide? |
| 04:16.21 | Primer | the suspense is killing me, Zhinjio |
| 04:16.24 | Primer | please tell me! |
| 04:16.24 | WobWork | kirin tor companion =) |
| 04:16.26 | Zhinjio | it gives you a book, that book lets you teleport to the top of VH tower and visit Archmage Vargoth |
| 04:16.32 | Zhinjio | who gives you a kirin tor minipet |
| 04:16.34 | WobWork | <3 my Companion |
| 04:16.37 | Primer | w |
| 04:16.38 | Primer | o |
| 04:16.38 | Primer | w |
| 04:16.43 | Zhinjio | which looks like a voidwalker (a little bit brighter) |
| 04:16.44 | WobWork | it's a tiny arcane elemental |
| 04:16.47 | Zhinjio | yeah |
| 04:16.50 | Arrowmaster | gives you a place to hide out in dalaran from everybody else |
| 04:16.55 | Primer | I think I creamed myself |
| 04:16.58 | WobWork | and when it's bored, it does arcane explosions =) |
| 04:17.04 | Zhinjio | and every once in awhile it throws its hands in the air doing arcane explosions |
| 04:17.04 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 04:17.13 | Zhinjio | its pretty awesome |
| 04:17.25 | WobWork | It's a bastard of an achievement though |
| 04:17.47 | WobWork | You have to read a series of books that spawn in Dalaran that are on a 3hr cooldown |
| 04:17.55 | Arrowmaster | i just checked the spots every time i was in dalaran |
| 04:17.56 | WobWork | and have a chance to spawn junk books |
| 04:18.01 | Arrowmaster | didnt really camp it out much |
| 04:18.17 | Xinhuan | they respawn on every northrend crash |
| 04:18.27 | Xinhuan | that is when Wintergrasp crashes the server |
| 04:18.29 | Xinhuan | hearth right away |
| 04:18.41 | WobWork | this ^ |
| 04:18.51 | Repo | 10liboop: 03taleden * r11 / (10 files in 3 directories): - added support for running disembedded |
| 04:18.52 | WobWork | that's how I got it =) |
| 04:18.54 | Repo | - when disembedded, "/liboop" reports the version and "/liboop test" runs a built-in test suite |
| 04:19.07 | WobWork | liboop? |
| 04:19.26 | WobWork | Object Oriented Programming? |
| 04:19.38 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 04:19.40 | Zhinjio | libpoop |
| 04:19.47 | Zhinjio | I still think we need to do that |
| 04:19.49 | Hirsute | which would make perl object oriented programming.... |
| 04:20.01 | taleden | yes, simple OOP |
| 04:20.07 | Zhinjio | no, it'll be a library that stores information about the poop quests |
| 04:20.09 | Zhinjio | or something |
| 04:20.27 | Zhinjio | something completely useless, but just so we can have a libpoop |
| 04:20.42 | Zhinjio | tracking cooldowns on nagrand cherries maybe |
| 04:20.45 | Zhinjio | who knows. doesn't matter |
| 04:22.05 | taleden | any wowace admins about? |
| 04:22.24 | *** join/#wowace pizzatime (n=kdub@hw1-dhcp207.wmiscable.net) |
| 04:22.31 | pizzatime | hi |
| 04:23.44 | Xinhuan | yes taleden? |
| 04:24.31 | taleden | can you purge a page I deleted in my project, so I can rename another page to re-use the name? |
| 04:24.47 | taleden | by default deleted pages are "still around" somehow and trying to rename something else to that name lags and gives a 500 server error |
| 04:24.58 | Xinhuan | got a link? not sure if i can |
| 04:25.19 | taleden | http://www.wowace.com/projects/liboop/pages/api/ |
| 04:25.34 | Xinhuan | what are you trying |
| 04:25.47 | pizzatime | is this a ask Qs only about stuff chat thing |
| 04:25.47 | taleden | to delete it, so I can rename a different page to use that name |
| 04:26.11 | taleden | maybe it just didn't take the first time, i dunno |
| 04:26.20 | taleden | i deleted it last week, and its not in the "pages" listing anymore for the project |
| 04:26.32 | taleden | but i also can't rename a different page to that name |
| 04:26.39 | *** part/#wowace pizzatime (n=kdub@hw1-dhcp207.wmiscable.net) |
| 04:26.41 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 04:27.38 | taleden | oh, I guess I can still edit it and replace it that way |
| 04:27.39 | Xinhuan | appears it doesn't really work |
| 04:27.43 | taleden | nevermind, workaround |
| 04:27.46 | taleden | yeah |
| 04:27.47 | Xinhuan | work around it for now |
| 04:27.53 | Xinhuan | rename that API page to something else |
| 04:27.56 | taleden | in general, it'd be nice to at least give a clear message about that :) |
| 04:27.58 | Xinhuan | then rename something else to API |
| 04:28.00 | taleden | nod |
| 04:28.07 | Xinhuan | see if that works |
| 04:28.27 | Xinhuan | there isn't even an option to undelete it |
| 04:28.48 | taleden | that does work |
| 04:28.53 | taleden | i think its because it still has the revision history |
| 04:29.08 | taleden | so I can still edit it to rename it, even though it's "gone" |
| 04:29.16 | taleden | which makes sense I guess if you're going to keep histories around at all |
| 04:29.25 | taleden | it'd just be nice if the error when trying to rename something on top of a deleted page wasn't the generic 500 |
| 04:30.19 | Xinhuan | bug ckknight about that one :) |
| 04:30.42 | Xinhuan | if that name pinged him to alt tab here, read the last 20 lines ;p |
| 04:30.42 | taleden | I asked him about it the other day when I first saw it :) |
| 04:30.48 | taleden | forget what he said at the time, but I think he's aware |
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| 04:38.33 | Ackis | lua> print("\97") |
| 04:38.34 | lua_bot | Ackis: a |
| 04:38.50 | Ackis | lua> print("\65") |
| 04:38.51 | lua_bot | Ackis: A |
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| 04:44.12 | Hirsute | How does one get purl to list commands again? |
| 04:44.23 | quiescens | very carefully |
| 04:44.36 | Hirsute | quiescens: Thank you, oh, so much. :p |
| 04:47.50 | Ackis | ~wowspell 46106 |
| 04:47.51 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=46106 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=46106 |
| 04:48.16 | Torhal | Zhinjio: LibPoop FTW. |
| 04:48.18 | WobWork | Hirsute: ask her ~help |
| 04:49.18 | Repo | 10wowlib: 03yygfml 04!!!LibPack * r28 : Tagging as !!!LibPack |
| 04:49.33 | Hirsute | WobWork: Thanks. I seem to remember there being some ~whale(verb) commands, but maybe I'm just up in the night. |
| 04:49.49 | WobWork | ~whaleparry Hirsute |
| 04:49.50 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Hirsute's attacks. |
| 04:50.07 | WobWork | ~whalenuke Hirsute |
| 04:50.08 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Hirsute with his mind powers. |
| 04:50.30 | Hirsute | Nice |
| 04:51.03 | WobWork | ~whalefu |
| 04:51.04 | purl | Whalefu is an ancient irc fighting style of unknown origin that was mastered and extended by Neronix |
| 04:51.33 | Ackis | @project wowlib |
| 04:51.34 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/projects/wowlib/. !!!LibPack. Game: WoW. Status: Changes required. Your description must contain an English portion at least at the beginning.. yygfml (Manager/Author). Updated: 89 seconds ago |
| 04:52.03 | Xinhuan | should probably ban a gibberish username too |
| 04:53.11 | Arrowmaster | going to end up denying that anyway i can tell |
| 04:53.16 | Xinhuan | ~x zh en æçæ件类åºæ´åå
ï¼~éåäºace,rockçåºæ件ãèªå·±ç¨çããã |
| 04:53.24 | Xinhuan | bah |
| 04:53.35 | Primer | purl is not utf8! |
| 04:53.52 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt understand utf8, but i can output it |
| 04:53.52 | Repo | 10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken * r4 Wiki.txt: Delete Wiki.txt |
| 04:54.04 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: I don't even want to look at that libs code :( |
| 04:54.13 | Arrowmaster | what is it? |
| 04:54.18 | doom0r | dx is ftl |
| 04:54.25 | Arrowmaster | is it really a lib? |
| 04:54.38 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/wowlib/files/38-lib-pack/ |
| 04:54.43 | Xinhuan | see the last 38 commits |
| 04:54.45 | Xinhuan | and you'll see what it is |
| 04:55.04 | Xinhuan | basically its a compilationof zips |
| 04:55.19 | Xinhuan | compilation of libs* |
| 04:55.22 | Ackis | ... |
| 04:55.30 | Xinhuan | and that's exactly what the chinese text says it is - a compilation of libs, for own use |
| 04:55.42 | Xinhuan | (yes i can read chinese) |
| 04:55.51 | quiescens | no wai |
| 04:56.10 | Arrowmaster | i could tell by the !!!LibPack |
| 04:57.32 | *** join/#wowace LonnieC (n=Lonnie@bas15-toronto12-1168008791.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 04:57.55 | Arrowmaster | @project wowui |
| 04:57.56 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: delete it :D |
| 04:57.57 | Repo | Arrowmaster: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 04:57.58 | Arrowmaster | now whats that |
| 04:58.18 | Arrowmaster | @project wowui |
| 04:58.19 | Repo | Arrowmaster: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 04:59.00 | quiescens | you broke it arrowmaster |
| 04:59.05 | quiescens | ! |
| 04:59.18 | quiescens | you've doomed us all~ |
| 04:59.18 | Arrowmaster | no i bet repo cant read chinese |
| 04:59.43 | ckknight | taleden: that 500 error means "you're doing it wrong" |
| 04:59.58 | ckknight | :P |
| 05:00.12 | taleden | pfft! |
| 05:00.24 | Arrowmaster | ill delete that wowlib once i get a look at the svn log for lolz |
| 05:00.32 | taleden | no wai, it means "your http server error handler is doing it wrong!" :) |
| 05:00.43 | ckknight | no |
| 05:00.47 | ckknight | you're doing something weird |
| 05:00.49 | ckknight | as well |
| 05:00.54 | ckknight | what are you doing again? |
| 05:01.02 | ckknight | you're renaming generated pages? |
| 05:01.14 | taleden | yes, but doesn't have to be generated I think |
| 05:01.19 | *** join/#wowace doom0r (i=Doom0r@c-24-1-208-53.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 05:01.23 | taleden | was just changing the name of one page to reuse the name of a deleted page |
| 05:01.38 | taleden | but since the deleted page is "kind of still around", it won't replace it, but doesn't say why either |
| 05:01.51 | ckknight | you're not getting what I'm saying |
| 05:01.54 | ckknight | you're doing it wrong |
| 05:02.03 | ckknight | why are you renaming generated pages? |
| 05:02.09 | ckknight | rather than just generating them where you want |
| 05:02.10 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: repo doesnt speak chinese |
| 05:02.15 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: okay |
| 05:02.19 | ckknight | ...don't really care |
| 05:02.33 | taleden | its not where, its extra formatting to make them easier to read |
| 05:02.47 | Arrowmaster | i do since it means we dont see anything at all when somebody makes a commit without an english commit message |
| 05:02.58 | Arrowmaster | and also |
| 05:03.01 | Arrowmaster | @project wowui |
| 05:03.02 | Repo | Arrowmaster: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 05:03.18 | ckknight | ugh |
| 05:03.26 | ckknight | well, I'll fix it later |
| 05:03.26 | Arrowmaster | same problem |
| 05:03.42 | ckknight | not now |
| 05:04.16 | Arrowmaster | svn log -v svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/wowlib/mainline | less |
| 05:04.18 | Arrowmaster | wtf? |
| 05:04.22 | Ackis | ckknight: repo doesn't speak idiot :( |
| 05:04.23 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan ^^^ |
| 05:04.33 | ckknight | Ackis: but you seem to talk to it all the time |
| 05:04.40 | Xinhuan | i don't think i want to see |
| 05:04.45 | Arrowmaster | you do |
| 05:05.03 | ckknight | hmm |
| 05:05.20 | Ackis | ouch |
| 05:05.54 | Ackis | what's the windows version of less? |
| 05:05.59 | Ackis | <-- always use more |
| 05:06.00 | Arrowmaster | more |
| 05:06.10 | Ackis | there's a *nix more though as well |
| 05:06.42 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 05:07.01 | *** join/#wowace mykx (n=Shelton@93-97-203-20.zone5.bethere.co.uk) |
| 05:07.01 | ckknight | and more just sucks |
| 05:07.04 | ckknight | compared to less |
| 05:07.06 | ckknight | that's all |
| 05:07.50 | quiescens | less is better than more? |
| 05:07.58 | *** join/#wowace Nickenyfiken (n=najk@c83-255-99-92.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 05:08.07 | Xinhuan | there's even an achievement called "Less is More" in wow ;p |
| 05:08.41 | quiescens | less > more |
| 05:08.52 | WobWork | isn't that a "win heroic X with 20 players" or something? |
| 05:09.47 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 05:10.31 | Arrowmaster | ok ive had enough, its deleted |
| 05:11.20 | Arrowmaster | "My own plug-ins used to update a little bit easier, so here, and people who like to download! ~ Statement: not for all. So unsatisfactory in some places, also requested the understanding." |
| 05:11.36 | ckknight | ? |
| 05:12.02 | taleden | aww, but he requested the understanding! so heartless |
| 05:12.11 | Arrowmaster | from http://www.wowace.com/projects/wowui/ piped into http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=en# |
| 05:13.12 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1341 / (9 files in 3 directories): |
| 05:13.15 | Repo | Convert a bunch of the sunwell drops into... sunwell trash drops. May have locale errors popup. |
| 05:13.17 | Arrowmaster | nothing commited to that one yet |
| 05:14.01 | Xinhuan | you could have just asked me to translate it |
| 05:14.01 | Ackis | ~wowspell 35558 |
| 05:14.02 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=35558 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=35558 |
| 05:14.14 | Arrowmaster | google seems to have done a fine job |
| 05:14.20 | Arrowmaster | or was it wrong? |
| 05:14.51 | Xinhuan | well google's context is wrong |
| 05:15.05 | Xinhuan | since bot translations don't know anything about context |
| 05:15.11 | quiescens | passes arrowmaster a pinch of salt |
| 05:16.18 | Xinhuan | "My own addons, for my own convenience, i uploaded it here. people who like it can download too! Note: It is not for everyone, so some places might not be to your liking, apologies" |
| 05:16.25 | Xinhuan | something like that would be a true translation in context |
| 05:16.36 | Arrowmaster | ok so marking as a ui pack |
| 05:16.52 | Arrowmaster | right? |
| 05:16.56 | Xinhuan | pretty much |
| 05:17.42 | Ackis | did alar change his name? |
| 05:17.54 | Xinhuan | no |
| 05:18.01 | Xinhuan | alar moved development to wowi's svn |
| 05:18.30 | Arrowmaster | did we run him out? |
| 05:18.58 | quiescens | are you scaring everyone away again xinhuan |
| 05:19.06 | Xinhuan | i don't know |
| 05:20.22 | Xinhuan | at least i think he moved it there |
| 05:20.57 | Xinhuan | he's got his own website |
| 05:20.58 | Xinhuan | http://wow.aspide.it/ |
| 05:21.07 | Xinhuan | so i don't really know where he develops it now |
| 05:21.36 | Xinhuan | but hey his website is W3C compat |
| 05:22.08 | Arrowmaster | no its ot |
| 05:22.10 | Arrowmaster | not |
| 05:22.13 | Arrowmaster | its php-nuke |
| 05:22.54 | Xinhuan | i only based it off that W3C icon he placed on his main page |
| 05:23.20 | Xinhuan | time to sleep |
| 05:23.26 | quiescens | o.o |
| 05:23.28 | Arrowmaster | php-nuke has has those by default for a very long time |
| 05:23.35 | Arrowmaster | its never passed a validator |
| 05:23.38 | Arrowmaster | ever |
| 05:23.54 | Xinhuan | i'm not geeky enough to know that ;p |
| 05:24.10 | Arrowmaster | used php-nuke on a site before |
| 05:24.44 | Arrowmaster | the owner ended up just taking the site down and saying fuck it due to all the exploits and script kiddies |
| 05:25.27 | Repo | 10wintergraspfu: 037destiny * r23 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Added koKR localization, |
| 05:28.09 | Nickenyfiken | Is there any FAQ or documentation on how the "correct" way is to make a new beta or relase? Or shall i just edit the files created from the repo to beta/relase from alpha? |
| 05:28.23 | Arrowmaster | you make a tag |
| 05:28.37 | Groktar | deletes Arrowmaster's tags |
| 05:28.41 | Ackis | how do you print a generated item string out into the game? |
| 05:28.42 | Arrowmaster | i always just edit the alpha zips though when im messing with an svn repo |
| 05:29.28 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: do it with /run print("itemstring") where all the |'s are \124's |
| 05:29.46 | Ackis | ahh ok that may have been my issue |
| 05:29.51 | Xinhuan | replace "|" with "\124" literally |
| 05:30.10 | Xinhuan | a gsub is fine |
| 05:30.22 | Nickenyfiken | Arrowmaster: OK, so i chose myself? Any pros/cons? |
| 05:30.23 | Ackis | yah \124 is |'s escape |
| 05:30.32 | Arrowmaster | :gsub("\124\124","\124") |
| 05:30.47 | Xinhuan | that won't work |
| 05:30.53 | Arrowmaster | Nickenyfiken: if you use the keyword substitutions they wont be accurate |
| 05:30.57 | Xinhuan | :gsub("\124","\124") will though |
| 05:31.08 | Arrowmaster | no it wont |
| 05:31.27 | Arrowmaster | the double \124 is for if you input | directly into the editbox |
| 05:31.33 | Xinhuan | you want to replace "|" which is 1 byte with "\124" which is 4 bytes |
| 05:31.37 | Nickenyfiken | Arrowmaster: ok thanks. |
| 05:32.06 | Xinhuan | i assumed he's running this from lua file code, not chat edit box |
| 05:32.18 | Ackis | chat edit bos :) |
| 05:32.34 | Repo | 10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken 04Release 0.1 * r5 : Tagging as Release 0.1 |
| 05:32.38 | Arrowmaster | no i ment do /run print(string.gsub("itemlink using |'s", "\124\124", "\124") |
| 05:32.42 | Xinhuan | ok i need my sleep, byez! |
| 05:33.02 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/questitembar/. QuestItemBar. Nickenyfiken (Manager/Author). Approved by Arrowmaster. |
| 05:33.55 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/plunk/. Plunk. catamorfizm (Manager/Author). Approved by Arrowmaster. |
| 05:34.02 | quiescens | plunk |
| 05:36.33 | Xinhuan | /plunk quiescens |
| 05:37.02 | quiescens | dies. |
| 05:37.04 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1342 / (6 files in 3 directories): |
| 05:37.07 | Repo | Fox a few recipes, I'm slowing verifying data, let me know if anything is wrong |
| 05:37.38 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1114 GridStatusVehicle.lua: Update all units on PEW. |
| 05:37.48 | quiescens | pew pew |
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| 05:41.06 | doom0r | less > more indeed |
| 05:41.22 | quiescens | go to sleep |
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| 05:42.05 | doom0r | sleep is no good |
| 05:42.37 | Groktar | waits for doom0r to go to sleep so he can perform unspeakable acts on him |
| 05:42.53 | doom0r | pretends to be asleep |
| 05:42.56 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1343 AckisRecipeList.toc: Forgot to update the ToC... tehehe |
| 05:43.07 | doom0r | catches groktar with a flash camera |
| 05:43.12 | Groktar | flees |
| 05:44.00 | doom0r | i need to put on some daft punk |
| 05:56.31 | *** join/#wowace chiper (n=chiper@ip72-197-215-172.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 05:56.50 | chiper | those sons of bitches made bone armor unstealable |
| 05:56.56 | pompy | ugh I hope this is a bug and not blizzard logic.. when ur in a raid group and log and you come back in and you are still in the raid group.. its teleporting you out |
| 05:56.59 | chiper | no more military quarter mage tanks |
| 06:00.25 | *** join/#wowace faCe| (n=face@p5489D00A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 06:01.56 | WobWork | chiper: It was pretty epic |
| 06:02.02 | WobWork | operative word |
| 06:02.04 | WobWork | 'was' |
| 06:02.20 | *** part/#wowace Seerah|away (n=Ryan_L@adsl-177-37-12.mem.bellsouth.net) |
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| 06:09.13 | Deviad | Hello |
| 06:09.19 | Arrowmaster | pompy: thats been a known bug since 3.0 |
| 06:09.49 | Deviad | Is it normal that yesterday when I used scorch in naxx 10 men and it was a bit laggy when I casted scorch I couldn't see it applied to the buff list on the target in pitbull frame? |
| 06:10.20 | Deviad | I could see ignite, pyroblast, frostfirebolt effect but often I couldn't see scorch |
| 06:10.30 | Deviad | so everytime I had to guess if it was on or not |
| 06:10.31 | Arrowmaster | disable the debuff filter |
| 06:10.47 | Deviad | mmmm |
| 06:10.50 | Deviad | ok |
| 06:11.06 | amoeba | Ooh, PB4 bug! |
| 06:11.20 | Deviad | but now with debuff filter on |
| 06:11.23 | Deviad | I can see it |
| 06:11.30 | Arrowmaster | you mean off? |
| 06:11.35 | Deviad | no on |
| 06:11.38 | Arrowmaster | no clue |
| 06:11.47 | Arrowmaster | the debuff filter doesnt work properly i dont think |
| 06:11.47 | Deviad | I just see the debuffs that my class casts |
| 06:11.55 | Deviad | I don't see what the other classes cast on the target |
| 06:12.01 | Deviad | which is pretty good in pve |
| 06:12.06 | Deviad | mmmm |
| 06:12.14 | Deviad | Should I go for x-perl? |
| 06:13.01 | Deviad | anyways it was very boring |
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| 06:19.13 | Deviad | Is xperl better? |
| 06:19.42 | sztanpet | for what? |
| 06:23.33 | Deviad | raiding |
| 06:23.38 | Deviad | when it's laggy etc |
| 06:24.37 | sztanpet | is xperl less laggy then pitbull? |
| 06:24.42 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r127 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 06:24.45 | Repo | Added option to disable the annoying flashing on the Cooldown bars. |
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| 06:24.58 | Repo | 10arl: 03TrAsHeR * r1344 Locals/ARLLocals-frFR.lua: frFR update |
| 06:26.06 | Deviad | sztanpet, well, everyone I know has been saying nothing but good about xperl for ages |
| 06:26.34 | sztanpet | try it out, its less costumizable then pitbull |
| 06:26.42 | Groktar | bleeds all over sztanpet |
| 06:26.43 | sztanpet | if you dont need that, go for it |
| 06:27.17 | Deviad | how about aguf? |
| 06:27.52 | sztanpet | what about aguf? |
| 06:29.34 | ckknight | Deviad: I'm rewriting pitbull, you know |
| 06:29.42 | ckknight | pitbull4's not done yet |
| 06:29.45 | ckknight | but will be soon |
| 06:29.51 | ckknight | also, use Grid for raiding |
| 06:30.22 | Zhinjio | ckknight: pb4 won't do raid frames? |
| 06:30.29 | ckknight | not yet |
| 06:30.56 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 037destiny * r30 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Added koKR localization |
| 06:32.21 | Deviad | ckknight, ok. Thank you man. I was not saying pitbull is horrible |
| 06:32.34 | Deviad | but that in certain conditions it generates problems |
| 06:32.36 | ckknight | nah, 3.0's pretty horrible in a lot of ways |
| 06:32.39 | ckknight | inefficient in raids |
| 06:32.44 | ckknight | horrible to configure |
| 06:32.57 | ckknight | maintainability issues |
| 06:33.05 | ckknight | 4.0's meant to fix most if not all of these issues |
| 06:34.46 | amoeba | ckknight, have you tried using PB4 to make the bars not go in an HP/Power/Cast layout? Like Cast/HP/Power? |
| 06:34.59 | ckknight | why? |
| 06:35.03 | ckknight | is there an issue? |
| 06:35.06 | amoeba | I think I'm seeing one. |
| 06:35.14 | amoeba | State not mimmicing the dropdown value. |
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| 06:36.24 | amoeba | I'll mess w/ it when I get unbusy. |
| 06:37.33 | Torhal | Sleeptime. Blargh. |
| 06:37.47 | ckknight | k, file a ticket if it's legit |
| 06:42.26 | doom0r | anyone know of there's a way to suppress pet name on sb and bloodthirsty in msbt? |
| 06:43.25 | Deviad | Anyone horde side can suggest me any guild ok Kazzak? :P |
| 06:43.27 | Deviad | on* |
| 06:44.45 | Groktar | huh? |
| 06:44.59 | Deviad | I'm looking for a guild on Kazzak :P |
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| 06:45.28 | Groktar | go to the kazzak realm forums |
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| 06:52.18 | Repo | 10proculasfu: 03Xocide * r2 / (5 files in 1 directory): Switched to Subversion, cant stand Mercurial. |
| 06:58.21 | Aiiane | wonder why someone would go from mercurial to svn of all things o.0 |
| 07:00.17 | Fisker- | kicks Aiiane down on the floor and stomps on him |
| 07:01.07 | sztanpet | Groktar bleed on her now! |
| 07:01.24 | Groktar | performs an unspeakable act instead |
| 07:02.17 | Aiiane | im a him now Fisker-? O_o |
| 07:02.47 | Fisker- | yes |
| 07:02.49 | Fisker- | :) |
| 07:02.54 | Fisker- | sexchange :( |
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| 07:04.20 | Fisker- | In order to prevent players from attempting to reach a no decision in Arenas, and to ensure that all Arena matches are completed in a reasonable time frame, a 45 minute time limit has been added to Arena matches. At the end of this time limit if no team has achieved victory, both teams will lose 16 arena rating points. Please be aware that this loss in rating is not currently displaying properly and will instead show as a draw |
| 07:04.21 | Fisker- | hehe |
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| 07:05.09 | doom0r | what if it ends up being holy priest v holy priest? |
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| 07:06.06 | Groktar | or holy priest v holy paladin |
| 07:06.15 | Aiiane | then whichever holy priest is quicker with their mana burns, wins |
| 07:06.32 | Groktar | really? |
| 07:06.41 | Aiiane | no, im just screwing with you |
| 07:06.42 | Groktar | i couldn't kill another priest at 70 |
| 07:06.44 | doom0r | ok, holy paladin v holy paladin |
| 07:06.46 | Groktar | and they couldn't kill me |
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| 07:07.18 | sztanpet | and what if someone falls out of the arena as it happened so many times before |
| 07:07.31 | sztanpet | it will be better now! |
| 07:08.07 | ckknight | hey Groktar, what's the worst part about eating vegetables? |
| 07:08.32 | doom0r | nowhere to lean your head |
| 07:08.50 | ckknight | getting them out of their wheelchairs. |
| 07:09.03 | Skellum | hehehe |
| 07:09.04 | amoeba | Someone's going to Hell. |
| 07:09.29 | ckknight | on the assumption that hell exists |
| 07:10.21 | amoeba | Hell is in the eye of the beholder. |
| 07:13.40 | ckknight | either that or a fairy tale to scare the masses into obedience |
| 07:14.06 | ckknight | and provide a form of vengeance and self-righteousness for those who believe their enemies go to such a place |
| 07:14.12 | amoeba | Or to be the basis for amazing fiddle music that women can dance to on top of bars. |
| 07:14.21 | amoeba | You decide! |
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| 07:18.08 | doom0r | mmm, my pet is unstoppable |
| 07:18.19 | ckknight | unstoppable! |
| 07:18.26 | doom0r | autoheal/happiness and self power buffing |
| 07:18.43 | Fisker- | i hate you all |
| 07:19.36 | Aiiane | the answer to Pascal's Wager? "being good isn't any fun" |
| 07:20.59 | Skellum | I wish I could still count WWS parses as legit |
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| 07:25.58 | Zhinjio | I wish I had time to work on my wws replacement |
| 07:26.17 | Zhinjio | I need like 40 hours every day |
| 07:26.26 | Zhinjio | fuck |
| 07:27.28 | Aiiane | when you invent those 40 hour days Zhinjio |
| 07:27.30 | Aiiane | let me know |
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| 07:31.14 | Repo | 10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken * r6 / (8 files in 2 directories): -Added localization support. |
| 07:31.17 | Repo | -Added missing external to .pkgmeta |
| 07:31.19 | Repo | -Some code cleanup |
| 07:39.18 | Hell-Razor | hrmm im thinkin of levelin a druid... should i do it balance or feral |
| 07:39.30 | Elkano | ~seen nymbia |
| 07:39.32 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@c-67-190-49-185.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 11d 6h 24m 44s ago, saying: 'sherpentshrine cavern ;)'. |
| 07:40.07 | Elkano | Hell-Razor, depends on wether you want to play caster or melee |
| 07:40.46 | Hell-Razor | Elkano, i wanna play whatever is easier to level... like what will benefit the most from minimal improvements |
| 07:42.01 | Hell-Razor | im thinkin feral until i can get my boomkin form |
| 07:42.53 | Repo | 10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken * r7 QuestItemBar.toc: |
| 07:42.55 | Repo | Add @project-version@ keyword to toc (hope it does what i think) |
| 07:45.36 | Deviad | Curse updated grid addon and now I'm getting an error :( |
| 07:45.55 | Wobin | yes |
| 07:45.59 | Wobin | feral til 40 |
| 07:46.01 | Wobin | then boomkin |
| 07:48.35 | Deviad | I get gridpvpstatus cannot find instance of roster-2.1 |
| 07:48.38 | Deviad | or something like that |
| 07:49.08 | Deviad | http://pastebin.com/m134ddbbf |
| 07:56.16 | sztanpet | thats gridpvpstatus's fault, not grids |
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| 07:57.44 | Deviad | yeah |
| 07:57.52 | Deviad | I downgraded to previous version of grid |
| 07:57.59 | Deviad | the one I got was an alpha |
| 07:58.07 | Deviad | I guess when it will get into beta or release |
| 07:58.14 | Deviad | gridpvpstatus will be updated as well |
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| 08:05.51 | Repo | 10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken * r8 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 08:05.54 | Repo | Added option to hide the bar/buttons. Was only possible from LDB before and not saved between sessions. |
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| 08:12.02 | Repo | Made a few tweaks to the Item Scanner. |
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| 08:15.32 | omega | iik :( how am I to level when I run out of tourguides :/ |
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| 08:17.08 | Hell-Razor | lol omega ... fuck tour guides |
| 08:17.22 | omega | but its so convenient |
| 08:17.46 | Hell-Razor | ive never used one |
| 08:18.03 | Hell-Razor | i read them and say wtf are they talking about and delete the file =P |
| 08:18.34 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide 071.4 * r129 : Branching as 1.4 |
| 08:19.07 | Bruners | just pick up quest and locate them on wowhead ? |
| 08:19.17 | Bruners | or install lightheaded/questhelper |
| 08:19.38 | Bruners | or just read the quest text |
| 08:22.04 | Repo | 10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken 040.2 * r9 : Tagging as 0.2 |
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| 08:22.19 | Hell-Razor | Bruners, i use both those andi <3 them |
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| 08:23.51 | omega | Hell-Razor: I meant the addon TourGuide :) it just tells me where to go, what quests to get |
| 08:23.55 | omega | ez-mode |
| 08:24.31 | Hell-Razor | mods like that actually take more time |
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| 08:30.08 | Repo | 10closet-gnome_banker: 03mikk * r65 / (3 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 08:30.11 | Repo | ClosetGnome_Banker: Use Mikk's clone: |
| 08:30.14 | Repo | - Actually works if you level up after creating a set |
| 08:30.16 | Repo | - Handles full bags better |
| 08:30.19 | Repo | - Puts "Banker" in the dropdown menu |
| 08:31.39 | Nickenyfiken | So, is anyone using the "localization app" for their project? |
| 08:32.09 | Stanzilla | ckknight for pitbull4 |
| 08:32.19 | Arrowmaster | Ackis is in ARL too |
| 08:32.29 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: and wikki's using it |
| 08:32.30 | Arrowmaster | and his 1500 damn translations |
| 08:32.53 | Nickenyfiken | OK :-) |
| 08:32.56 | Stanzilla | In order to prevent players from attempting to reach a no decision in Arenas, and to ensure that all Arena matches are completed in a reasonable time frame, a 45 minute time limit has been added to Arena matches. < cu 3.5 hour mirror matches |
| 08:33.15 | Nickenyfiken | I have to try it i think. |
| 08:33.22 | Hell-Razor | Stanzilla, are you kidding? |
| 08:33.29 | Mikk | 45 minutes is still yoinks high |
| 08:33.29 | Stanzilla | nah, it's real |
| 08:33.35 | Mikk | i'd bail long before that personally :P |
| 08:33.40 | Arrowmaster | did anybody ever go past the resto druid vs resto shaman that went over 11 hours? |
| 08:33.43 | Stanzilla | 45 is like..nothing for a proper mirror match :p |
| 08:33.53 | Hell-Razor | it should be like 5 minutes tops |
| 08:34.00 | ckknight | imo 10 minutes |
| 08:34.02 | Stanzilla | druid lock / druid lock takes ages |
| 08:34.13 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: tell me any thoughts you have after using it |
| 08:34.15 | Stanzilla | or took..in s4 |
| 08:35.02 | Mikk | yeah, now you win if you doublecrit |
| 08:35.03 | Mikk | >.< |
| 08:35.10 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 08:35.45 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: sure. I have no translations to add yet, except enUS. But i guess i can use it anyway? |
| 08:35.48 | Arrowmaster | yeah it cant be too short, otherwise those matches that you know the outcome but it just takes a while to get to would be cut short, like shadow priest vs holy priest being the only two left |
| 08:35.52 | Stanzilla | we wanted to play spriest/spriest..dot everything, silence, dispersion, wait. |
| 08:35.53 | Arrowmaster | ive seen that happen before |
| 08:35.57 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: that's what it's for |
| 08:35.59 | Arrowmaster | the holy priest was running like mad |
| 08:36.14 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: just import your listing, let the people with funny accents do their thing |
| 08:36.42 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: ;-) |
| 08:39.17 | ckknight | wath |
| 08:39.19 | ckknight | bah |
| 08:39.37 | Repo | 10closet-gnome_banker: 03mikk 043.0-beta3 * r66 : Tagging as 3.0-beta3 |
| 08:39.59 | ckknight | watching law and order: svu, it makes me want to kidnap a girl and hold her in a concrete room for years |
| 08:40.11 | ckknight | ah, stockholm syndrome |
| 08:40.18 | ckknight | :P |
| 08:40.35 | quiescens | reported |
| 08:40.41 | ckknight | jk, kidnapping is bad |
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| 08:40.45 | ckknight | lol |
| 08:40.48 | ckknight | reported to whom? |
| 08:41.23 | sb|work | Fisker- :/ he wants to be kidnapped... |
| 08:41.43 | Repo | 10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken * r10 Locale/enUS.lua: Play with localization app. |
| 08:42.44 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: did you see the repository keywords page for localization? |
| 08:43.14 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: Yep. It seems to work great! |
| 08:45.00 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: so the idea is to set up all the <locale>.lua files in the addon before someone have provided a locale? |
| 08:45.18 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: yea, feel free to check out how I do it in PitBull4. |
| 08:46.26 | ckknight | I set up all the locale files |
| 08:46.36 | ckknight | only load them in non-debug mode |
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| 08:48.13 | Elkano | hmm, from the first look, ck, that localization stuff seems nice ^^ |
| 08:48.23 | ckknight | :-) |
| 08:48.37 | ckknight | PB4's almost all localized after only a few days |
| 08:48.42 | ckknight | with minimal work on my part |
| 08:48.52 | quiescens | nerf |
| 08:48.53 | ckknight | and no translators fucking around in my repo |
| 08:49.17 | Elkano | only problem I see for me is development... won't be able to use it for the default language since I stoped using english strings as keys |
| 08:49.25 | Mikk | ckknight: a request re: clones - maybe you want to consider making them (and their files) a wee bit more visible? Going via the Repositories link isn't something joe user does. |
| 08:49.47 | ckknight | true, but I dunno |
| 08:49.53 | ckknight | where would I make them more visible? |
| 08:50.04 | Elkano | btw, any news on RSS? |
| 08:50.24 | Mikk | ckknight: hmmmmm below "Recent files" maybe? |
| 08:50.24 | NeoTron | well got Sartharion + 2 drakes today with just 6 wipes. was rather easy |
| 08:50.33 | Mikk | that'd be suitably nonintrusive imo |
| 08:50.37 | ckknight | perhaps |
| 08:50.42 | ckknight | file a ticket about it, Mikk |
| 08:50.44 | NeoTron | wish I could get somce nice level 80 fire resist gear though - 84% of the dmg I took was fire |
| 08:50.45 | Mikk | mkay |
| 08:50.51 | ckknight | I used to have it |
| 08:50.57 | ckknight | Kaelten took it away :P |
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| 08:51.14 | sztanpet | any way to order translations by having a translation in the specific language or not? |
| 08:51.23 | sztanpet | or have i missed something |
| 08:51.48 | Elkano | hmpf... CC now shows changelog but not for alphas :/ |
| 08:51.51 | NivFreak | wow, 2 drakes seemed really freaking easy after doing 3 drakes attempts for a bit (10man) |
| 08:52.30 | quiescens | you can do it! |
| 08:52.33 | quiescens | we have faith in you |
| 08:52.48 | ckknight | sztanpet: ...what? |
| 08:53.00 | Elkano | ckknight, what about esMX? |
| 08:53.10 | ckknight | don't trust the mexicans, Elkano |
| 08:53.13 | sztanpet | ckk, to just see what isnt translated yet |
| 08:53.16 | ckknight | they're going to take California from us |
| 08:53.19 | ckknight | without firing a shot |
| 08:53.41 | ckknight | sztanpet: stick on ?untranslated |
| 08:53.47 | Elkano | I thought they already had... don't they provide the majority of inhabitants by now? |
| 08:53.47 | ckknight | there's also a link from the localization page |
| 08:53.54 | ckknight | Elkano: not sure about that |
| 08:54.09 | ckknight | Elkano: in any event, we don't have the language entered on wowace |
| 08:54.09 | sztanpet | ah yea, i missed that |
| 08:54.21 | ckknight | Elkano: so for now, I'd suggest treating esES and esMX as the same |
| 08:54.59 | Mikk | NeoTron: yeah, some FR would probably make it easier :S |
| 08:55.02 | Elkano | hmm, I wonder if AceLocale does it that way... |
| 08:55.18 | the-golem | >.> |
| 08:55.29 | Mikk | Elkano: no, AceLocale doesn't esES==esMX |
| 08:55.34 | Mikk | there's been some discussion about it |
| 08:55.38 | Mikk | but never reached a conclusion really |
| 08:55.46 | ckknight | you can do it this way, hang on |
| 08:55.49 | Mikk | I came up with a way of making it work, but it was a bit hacky |
| 08:55.56 | Mikk | Or at least nevcairiel thought it was :o) |
| 08:56.09 | the-golem | The main difference between esMX and esES is the difference in use of vosotros in Spain. |
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| 08:56.13 | ckknight | local L = LibStub("AceLocale-3.0"):NewLocale("TestAlpha", "esES") or LibStub("AceLocale-3.0"):NewLocale("TestAlpha", "esMX") |
| 08:56.14 | the-golem | That i've noticed. >.> |
| 08:56.34 | Repo | 10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken * r11 Locale (7 files in 1 directory): More locale files added! |
| 08:56.44 | Mikk | Whoa, nice cludgery ckk |
| 08:56.55 | ckknight | it works |
| 08:56.59 | Mikk | Aye it would |
| 08:57.10 | Mikk | I didn't even consider that you could do that, and i wrote it :P |
| 08:57.18 | Elkano | hmm, Mikk, allow esES to be added on esMX if no esMX was added, yet and allow it to be overwritten later |
| 08:57.31 | Mikk | Elkano: that was what i did |
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| 08:57.55 | Elkano | though I haven't seen any esMX user complain so far |
| 08:58.13 | Mikk | esMX people tend to be a bit better at english than esES people |
| 08:58.16 | Mikk | in my experience |
| 08:58.23 | ckknight | cause they're too lazy to complain? |
| 08:58.25 | ckknight | is bad |
| 08:58.28 | Mikk | hahah |
| 08:58.30 | amoeba | You're going to Hell. |
| 08:58.32 | the-golem | lol |
| 08:58.32 | ckknight | (and not really racist) |
| 08:58.43 | ckknight | :P |
| 08:58.49 | ckknight | amoeba: we had this discussion earlier |
| 08:59.05 | Mikk | ckk wins discussion on fun factor |
| 08:59.08 | Kalroth | ckk is american, he doesn't realize that he's already in the bottom of the "racist jokes" food chain. |
| 08:59.09 | Mikk | and he goes to hell |
| 08:59.14 | ckknight | woo, America! |
| 08:59.19 | Elkano | ckknight, what exactly doe "ignore working copies" do? |
| 08:59.22 | amoeba | I think ckknight is the racist jokes food chain. |
| 08:59.24 | Kalroth | Americants! |
| 08:59.29 | the-golem | lmao |
| 08:59.32 | ckknight | Kalroth: not only that, I wasn't always an American. I'm naturalized ;-) |
| 08:59.42 | Kalroth | ckknight: You were a chav before?! |
| 08:59.45 | Elkano | will checking it prevent CC from overwriting manual checkouts? |
| 08:59.45 | Mikk | and yeah the past 8 years have been really good at firmly lodging the americans way down there |
| 08:59.48 | ckknight | nah, Canadian |
| 08:59.57 | Kalroth | ckknight: That's some downgrade |
| 09:00.03 | the-golem | ouch |
| 09:00.04 | ckknight | I was raised here |
| 09:00.05 | Mikk | thanks bush jr. |
| 09:00.25 | the-golem | How long in Canada, and where? o.O |
| 09:00.26 | ckknight | Mikk: we'll be alright as long as we maintain a healthy war budget |
| 09:00.35 | Kalroth | ckknight: So you tried to escape US, but ended up moving back or? |
| 09:00.35 | Mikk | mmmm :P |
| 09:00.43 | the-golem | LMAO!! |
| 09:00.45 | ckknight | the-golem: was born in Saskatchewan, lived there for 4 years before moving to Hawaii |
| 09:00.52 | Kalroth | I mean, Canada >>>>> US |
| 09:00.53 | the-golem | "Healthy war budget" |
| 09:00.58 | ckknight | what? |
| 09:01.08 | Mikk | aye, war is great for the economy |
| 09:01.08 | the-golem | Wellll |
| 09:01.13 | Mikk | as long as it's not your own country being bombed |
| 09:01.25 | ckknight | as long as we spend shit-tons more on "defense" than anyone else, at least we'll be the world's biggest bully. |
| 09:01.26 | the-golem | That depends on some variables |
| 09:01.36 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x573bcda2.henqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 09:01.44 | Mikk | it's just as good as the state building lots of infrastructure and stuff, but you don't get accused of being socialist |
| 09:01.58 | Mikk | great econony driver |
| 09:02.03 | the-golem | blowing billions of dollars a month to pick at insurgents for 4 years is rediculous, considering the actual "war" was over in less than a month |
| 09:02.14 | the-golem | I spelled a word wrong there... |
| 09:02.19 | ckknight | the-golem: true, Iraq was very mismanaged |
| 09:02.33 | ckknight | lousy Hadjis |
| 09:02.37 | the-golem | lol |
| 09:02.41 | ckknight | if only they didn't have those precious, precious resources |
| 09:02.52 | ckknight | then we could go back to making wars for fun |
| 09:02.53 | Mikk | where did that bushism go again |
| 09:02.56 | ckknight | like back in South America |
| 09:03.09 | Mikk | "The hardest part of my job is connecting the war on terrorism with Saddam Hussein" or something like that |
| 09:03.32 | the-golem | Mikk, and thats not hard at all. :P |
| 09:03.42 | Mikk | yeah, just have some officials outright lie |
| 09:03.47 | Mikk | wags the dog |
| 09:03.53 | ckknight | despite all else, Saddam Hussein was a bad tyrant, it's just shitty that we have to pick up the pieces of Iraq. |
| 09:04.04 | the-golem | It makes sense. |
| 09:04.08 | the-golem | We put him there. |
| 09:04.13 | Mikk | ^ |
| 09:04.19 | the-golem | Shoulda picked a better tyrant, i guess. |
| 09:04.25 | ckknight | well, sorta |
| 09:04.28 | ckknight | we more just funded him |
| 09:04.35 | ckknight | which allowed his power to expand |
| 09:04.49 | ckknight | now we're in a post-Soviet world where all our money has gone to tyrants |
| 09:04.53 | ckknight | and we gotta deal with that fallout |
| 09:05.17 | nevcairiel | morning |
| 09:05.20 | ckknight | we need to invest in alternative fuels so that we're not so controlled by oil-producing countries |
| 09:05.22 | ckknight | hey nevcairiel |
| 09:05.55 | *** join/#wowace Lysithea (i=Lyset@c-454ee455.017-172-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 09:06.06 | Kalroth | http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,28383,24887773-10388,00.html?referrer=email |
| 09:06.06 | the-golem | No kidding. |
| 09:06.24 | ckknight | woo, Kalroth |
| 09:06.32 | ckknight | I've had more sex partners than Paris Hilton! |
| 09:06.34 | ckknight | success! |
| 09:06.40 | Kalroth | ckknight: You've had more than 2 men, eh? |
| 09:06.41 | the-golem | lol |
| 09:06.47 | ckknight | nah |
| 09:06.52 | ckknight | sadly, I'm not attracted to guys |
| 09:06.57 | ckknight | so that half of the population is off-limits |
| 09:07.01 | ckknight | gotta stick to females |
| 09:07.05 | Kalroth | But aren't you american? |
| 09:07.11 | amoeba | *zing |
| 09:07.21 | ckknight | not sure I follow |
| 09:07.38 | Mikk | nevcairiel: hai |
| 09:07.45 | Kalroth | Well all your females looks like men! |
| 09:07.47 | Kalroth | hides. |
| 09:07.52 | the-golem | ... |
| 09:08.00 | the-golem | You're lookin at the wrong ones. |
| 09:08.02 | amoeba | It's the opposite, really. |
| 09:08.19 | Kalroth | amoeba: Are you saying that ckk looks girly? |
| 09:08.37 | amoeba | I picture him looking just like Christopher Knight. |
| 09:08.39 | Kalroth | &msg ckknight hey baby, asl?? |
| 09:08.41 | ckknight | well, my hair is getting kinda long |
| 09:09.01 | ckknight | not quite, amoeba |
| 09:09.09 | amoeba | dang! |
| 09:09.26 | amoeba | This isn't you? (SFW) http://www.nndb.com/people/535/000025460/ck1-sized.jpg |
| 09:09.49 | the-golem | amoeba: Young, or old version? |
| 09:09.56 | Kalroth | old in ckk's case |
| 09:09.59 | Elkano | ckknight, could you change the localizer to support data in the following form: key = value |
| 09:10.12 | Elkano | currently it seems to only accept ["key"] = value |
| 09:10.12 | ckknight | on importing, that should work fine |
| 09:10.18 | Elkano | no, it doesn't |
| 09:10.22 | ckknight | hmm |
| 09:10.25 | ckknight | do you do L.key = value |
| 09:10.28 | ckknight | or do you pass in a simple table? |
| 09:10.40 | Elkano | maybe i just fail at pasting ^^ |
| 09:10.50 | Kalroth | Elkanowned! |
| 09:11.19 | Mikk | ~epicfail? |
| 09:11.31 | Elkano | ah, ok, I have to wrap it as a table ^^ |
| 09:11.38 | amoeba | Elkanowed sounds more promising. |
| 09:11.48 | amoeba | Especially when I misspell it. |
| 09:12.23 | Skellum | Todays http://xkcd.com/ is quite fun |
| 09:12.54 | ckknight | yea |
| 09:13.04 | Bruners | "I think so - I'm a strong woman who doesn't depend on a man for anything and I believe in girl power." |
| 09:13.21 | Bruners | i would depend on anyone either if i was born into the hilton empire |
| 09:13.35 | Elkano | hmpf... the data being sorted by key sucks... can't group strings logicaly that way |
| 09:13.37 | the-golem | Too bad daddy gives her money |
| 09:13.59 | Bruners | the-golem: she makes good money on her own |
| 09:14.08 | ckknight | Elkano: yea, sorry, there's no good way to order, so it's just done alphabetically |
| 09:14.13 | mitch0 | elkano: you can use a prefix in the keys |
| 09:14.23 | the-golem | lmao |
| 09:14.27 | Elkano | yeah, ck, I know ^^ |
| 09:14.29 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: when you already have Localization set up there is a "Edit localization" link on the right on the project page. Shouldn't it point to http://www.wowace.com/projects/<addon>/localization/? Right now it is pointing to http://www.wowace.com/projects/<addon>/setup-localization/. |
| 09:14.48 | the-golem | so do streetwalkers |
| 09:14.50 | the-golem | hides |
| 09:14.54 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: check the navigation bar. |
| 09:15.20 | ckknight | Bruners: I don't date anyone who believes in girl power. it just doesn't work. |
| 09:15.33 | mitch0 | :) |
| 09:15.50 | *** join/#wowace SNiLD (i=snild@nurmijarvi.net) |
| 09:16.08 | Bruners | they can have as much power as they want to |
| 09:16.29 | ckknight | yea, just not with me |
| 09:16.40 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: ah yes i see. But before localization was set up the link said "setup localization", that's why i was asking. Btw what happens if you setup again? |
| 09:17.04 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: nothing, really. you can change the programming language |
| 09:17.14 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide 041.4.0 * r130 : Tagging as 1.4.0 |
| 09:17.19 | ckknight | that'll be useful later when I add info to the localization page for translators |
| 09:17.24 | ckknight | such as how format strings work |
| 09:17.47 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: ok |
| 09:20.53 | Grum | ckknight: how does the locale system handle multiple versions? what if you make a new alpha release where you remove half the old strings and add the same amount new, will that 'just work' ? |
| 09:20.57 | Nickenyfiken | hehe zhCN locales already added. Less then 30 mins after enUS was added :-) |
| 09:21.20 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: yea, the chinamen are freakishly fast |
| 09:21.31 | Bruners | not hard to add translations when you can enter them via web |
| 09:21.49 | ckknight | Grum: yea, the localization system matches the latest development |
| 09:22.06 | Grum | so the 'older' releases will all be broken? |
| 09:22.19 | nevcairiel | the older releases will already be packaged into a zip |
| 09:22.26 | nevcairiel | and not change anymore |
| 09:22.29 | nevcairiel | so, wut? |
| 09:22.40 | ckknight | yea, how would they break? |
| 09:22.43 | ckknight | that makes no sense |
| 09:22.51 | ckknight | ...magic? |
| 09:22.57 | ckknight | that's how I'd break em |
| 09:23.00 | Grum | so what happens if you add/change locale entries? a new zip gets generated directly? |
| 09:23.02 | ckknight | change the zips after they've been created |
| 09:23.04 | ckknight | no, Grum |
| 09:23.09 | [Ammo] | lua davidcopperfield.lua |
| 09:23.13 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: sure you didn't included a auto enUS -> zhCN script? :-P |
| 09:23.16 | [Ammo] | zomg mah translations! |
| 09:23.19 | ckknight | hehe |
| 09:23.31 | ckknight | Grum: if you use the keyword substitutions, then it'll be whenever a new package is made |
| 09:23.55 | Grum | k :) .. i have to say its a rather cool feature :D |
| 09:24.02 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: did you see what you did to the curseclient by mucking with questhelper just so you could get your points? |
| 09:24.12 | nevcairiel | no |
| 09:24.18 | ckknight | Grum: glad you like it |
| 09:24.22 | nevcairiel | Kael said its not used for anything else |
| 09:24.24 | nevcairiel | so i added it |
| 09:24.26 | nevcairiel | blame him =P |
| 09:24.35 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r1858 / (6 files in 6 directories): |
| 09:24.37 | Repo | - Updated format for Drak'Tharon Keep, Gundrak and Halls of Stone |
| 09:24.45 | Arrowmaster | it downloaded libstub and callbackhandler when it updated questhelper for people |
| 09:24.57 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 09:24.59 | [Ammo] | nice :) |
| 09:25.13 | nevcairiel | it needs a "embeded lib" mode then |
| 09:25.21 | Arrowmaster | it does |
| 09:25.33 | ckknight | that's a bug in the curse client |
| 09:25.38 | ckknight | gg curse client |
| 09:25.40 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 09:25.46 | ckknight | oh? |
| 09:25.47 | Arrowmaster | they are marked as required dependancies |
| 09:26.03 | Arrowmaster | because nevcairiel wanted his points when the reward system goes live |
| 09:26.10 | [Ammo] | rofl |
| 09:26.24 | nevcairiel | I asked Kaelten if those settings would do anything besides the point calc |
| 09:26.26 | nevcairiel | he said no |
| 09:26.30 | ckknight | delicious points |
| 09:26.42 | [Ammo] | will the system support sexual favor points? |
| 09:26.50 | Skellum | Super Jail seems like a peice of crap...but why do I like it? |
| 09:27.08 | ckknight | sexier than regular jail? |
| 09:27.12 | ckknight | [Ammo]: not to my knowledge |
| 09:27.16 | nevcairiel | but i see, ckknight added a "Embedded Library" mode for relations now, that wasnt there last week |
| 09:27.51 | Arrowmaster | the client is bugged in that it downloaded optional dependancies automaticly |
| 09:27.57 | [Ammo] | who's balls do I need to cup to get points? :) |
| 09:28.06 | ckknight | [Ammo]: just go to /home/ |
| 09:28.09 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: sign up for the point system |
| 09:28.10 | Arrowmaster | apparently updating ARL causes ATSW to be installed |
| 09:28.12 | ckknight | and wait for premium to release |
| 09:28.12 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 09:28.24 | nevcairiel | I think you already did, i gave you a cut on Ace3 |
| 09:28.25 | [Ammo] | signup where? |
| 09:28.27 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 09:28.30 | [Ammo] | awesome |
| 09:28.37 | ckknight | which is dependent on the curse client not being a piece of shit |
| 09:28.42 | ckknight | so, we'll see when that happens |
| 09:28.48 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: people show up on that list even if they havent signed up yet |
| 09:28.49 | [Ammo] | I tried that client once |
| 09:29.01 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: yeah but you cannot raise their cut above 0% |
| 09:29.04 | [Ammo] | then swiftly purged everything related to it after it installed cgprofiler without asking me |
| 09:29.08 | Arrowmaster | oh? |
| 09:29.08 | [Ammo] | spyware |
| 09:29.25 | ckknight | [Ammo]: it's "CurseProfiler" now |
| 09:29.26 | Arrowmaster | well if they are the manager they automaticlly get 100% even if they havent signed up yet |
| 09:29.38 | nevcairiel | thats not my problem, then =P |
| 09:29.39 | ckknight | [Ammo]: at least with the new version, you can uninstall it (and it'll stay uninstalled) |
| 09:29.51 | [Ammo] | well I ain't coming near that client again |
| 09:29.57 | [Ammo] | I told it to delete all my personal settings |
| 09:30.04 | [Ammo] | it said it did |
| 09:30.08 | [Ammo] | then I installed a new version |
| 09:30.09 | ckknight | it's probably had like 2-3 rewrites since you used it |
| 09:30.13 | [Ammo] | and it had all my settings back! |
| 09:30.22 | [Ammo] | so I wonder how 'deleted' they were |
| 09:30.26 | Arrowmaster | maybe he used version 1.x |
| 09:30.29 | [Ammo] | no |
| 09:30.34 | [Ammo] | this was 2 months ago or so |
| 09:30.40 | [Ammo] | maybe 3 |
| 09:30.47 | nevcairiel | kaelten is working on 2.1 now, which is the best version of it ever |
| 09:30.48 | [Ammo] | not going near that thing again |
| 09:30.51 | ckknight | cgProfiler hasn't been used for like 6 months |
| 09:30.54 | nevcairiel | but well, its in alpha still =P |
| 09:31.09 | [Ammo] | well this was when the new wowace went live |
| 09:31.14 | [Ammo] | maybe my brain is damaged |
| 09:31.19 | [Ammo] | but screw the client |
| 09:31.21 | ckknight | yea, it is |
| 09:31.30 | Arrowmaster | it was rewritten completely since then i thought |
| 09:31.33 | ckknight | well, the client's basically been rewritten since you used it |
| 09:31.42 | ckknight | for the most part |
| 09:31.53 | Kalroth | I'm waiting for version 7 |
| 09:31.59 | Kalroth | I don't trust early versions |
| 09:32.01 | [Ammo] | I'm a conservative prick and in my mind the client is marked as 'shit, and avoid' |
| 09:32.07 | Arrowmaster | hasnt actually ever had it installed yet |
| 09:32.14 | nevcairiel | I never used any update client |
| 09:32.19 | nevcairiel | and i won't ever |
| 09:32.24 | Grum | i used the wowace client |
| 09:32.24 | ckknight | [Ammo]: also, that was before Kaelten took over management of the client |
| 09:32.30 | nevcairiel | but the 2.1 alphas are still pretty good |
| 09:32.31 | Grum | but that one was about the most straightforward as it could get |
| 09:32.33 | Arrowmaster | i never even used WAU |
| 09:32.47 | Mikk | I used WAU. Now I use SVN. |
| 09:32.51 | Kalroth | I use WUU once a month. :) |
| 09:32.54 | many | i like the updater. |
| 09:32.56 | [Ammo] | I never used wau, wuu or whatever |
| 09:33.02 | nevcairiel | I use batch file once a week or so |
| 09:33.07 | [Ammo] | I either download .zips manual or run my batch file |
| 09:33.15 | *** part/#wowace kapowaz (n=kapowaz@sequoia.wyredforest.net) |
| 09:33.21 | Grum | hehe what does your batchfile do? |
| 09:33.26 | Arrowmaster | yeah batch files once a week or more often when i know i need to update |
| 09:33.32 | Grum | for all directories; cd+svn up; ? |
| 09:33.34 | [Ammo] | svn up --ignore-externals *; git pull * |
| 09:33.41 | [Ammo] | but slightly more elaborate |
| 09:33.50 | Kalroth | I get my addons from more than one site, so I can't stick to a single SVN or site updater. |
| 09:33.52 | Arrowmaster | my batch file actually does directory moving and such for LoD |
| 09:34.02 | [Ammo] | I don't bother with LoD atm :) |
| 09:34.09 | nevcairiel | I only do for BigWigs |
| 09:34.22 | Mikk | zomg, ammo got a new computer :P |
| 09:34.24 | *** join/#wowace nuoHep (n=nuoHep@89.222.156.36) |
| 09:34.24 | *** join/#wowace Diskmaster (n=YOURFACE@76.84.164.192) |
| 09:34.28 | [Ammo] | Mikk: yarr |
| 09:34.31 | Grum | hehe |
| 09:34.32 | Mikk | soon we'll see him adding unnecessary features too!!11 |
| 09:34.37 | [Ammo] | I even run QuestHelper now |
| 09:34.43 | Kalroth | haha |
| 09:34.45 | Grum | even while raiding Ammo? ;) |
| 09:34.48 | [Ammo] | it's a piece of shit but it helps me level |
| 09:34.51 | [Ammo] | yeah even while raiding |
| 09:34.54 | Kalroth | Soon you'll be level 70, Ammo! |
| 09:34.55 | [Ammo] | and not going under 60 fps |
| 09:35.07 | Cheads | then you need more useless addons |
| 09:35.09 | Grum | you need a new monitor .. 320x200 is very oldschool :p |
| 09:35.13 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 09:35.19 | [Ammo] | 1280x1024 tyvm |
| 09:35.31 | [Ammo] | I think all detail turned on as well |
| 09:35.31 | nevcairiel | ew 5:4 |
| 09:35.34 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 09:35.39 | Mikk | tbfh screen size has little to do with addons |
| 09:35.39 | [Ammo] | no widescreen here |
| 09:35.46 | [Ammo] | it has to do with fps |
| 09:35.48 | Grum | lies; more screen means more addons |
| 09:35.51 | Mikk | the same amount of data gets transmitted to the GPU regardless of resolution |
| 09:35.55 | Cheads | more room for addons! |
| 09:35.56 | Mikk | true grum =) |
| 09:35.59 | Arrowmaster | ive atleast got 1600x1200 with my 5 year old lcd |
| 09:36.12 | Grum | i renamed 1 questhelper to questhelper2 just to have more addons on my screen! |
| 09:36.20 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:36.21 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 09:36.30 | Mikk | having said that, i have Aperture eating a fourth of my screen to make room for addon shit :P |
| 09:36.42 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: expect some oRA3 love though soon |
| 09:36.47 | [Ammo] | Mikk: I have GloryHole for that :) |
| 09:36.48 | Grum | oe nice |
| 09:36.54 | [Ammo] | awesome 4 liner :p |
| 09:37.08 | Kalroth | I run QuestHelper and Carbonite at the same time. |
| 09:37.14 | Grum | [Ammo]: would it be possible to make the readycheck only apply for a fixed set of groups? or is that impossible API wise? |
| 09:37.16 | [Ammo] | I avoid carboshite |
| 09:37.24 | Mikk | is gloryhole a tekkubism perchance? |
| 09:37.25 | [Ammo] | Grum: guess what the divider bar is for :p |
| 09:37.32 | [Ammo] | Mikk: no it's my own 4liner |
| 09:37.42 | Mikk | damn |
| 09:37.44 | Kalroth | Mikk: google for "xxx glory hole"! |
| 09:37.52 | nevcairiel | the name couldve been tekkub for sure |
| 09:37.54 | [Ammo] | true |
| 09:37.57 | Grum | [Ammo]: that is v3 right? :) |
| 09:37.59 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 09:38.00 | Mikk | i even tried "gloryhole addon" and still got the wrong shit :P |
| 09:38.04 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:38.08 | [Ammo] | it splits groups 1-5 from 6-8 |
| 09:38.10 | Kalroth | And yes, Carbonite is shit. :) |
| 09:38.11 | [Ammo] | with a divider bar |
| 09:38.18 | Grum | is ora3 actually usable atm? |
| 09:38.22 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 09:38.23 | Grum | or should it be used over ora2? |
| 09:38.23 | [Ammo] | it is for readychecks |
| 09:38.26 | [Ammo] | no |
| 09:38.29 | nevcairiel | its just not a full replacement to ora2 |
| 09:38.32 | nevcairiel | i use both :) |
| 09:38.35 | [Ammo] | use alongside and disable readycheck showing in oRA2 ;) |
| 09:38.40 | Grum | hehe |
| 09:38.56 | [Ammo] | I had to get permission from cladhaire for the sliding/detach panel |
| 09:38.57 | Grum | i wish people would shoot ctraidassist |
| 09:39.01 | [Ammo] | which I added to oRA3 |
| 09:39.01 | Arrowmaster | does ora2 even have anything for the readycheck? |
| 09:39.06 | Mikk | erm yes |
| 09:39.07 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: it does |
| 09:39.12 | Grum | yeah a screen ordered by name |
| 09:39.17 | Arrowmaster | i know it still has the old readycheck |
| 09:39.17 | [Ammo] | with green/red |
| 09:39.18 | Grum | so no idea who is in what group :P |
| 09:39.21 | nevcairiel | wasnt CT_RA even discontinued with 3.0? |
| 09:39.24 | nevcairiel | (finally?) |
| 09:39.24 | Grum | no |
| 09:39.26 | [Ammo] | no |
| 09:39.28 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
| 09:39.29 | Grum | someone revivied it >< |
| 09:39.35 | Grum | -e |
| 09:39.40 | Grum | -i+e .. fail .. anyhow |
| 09:39.41 | Arrowmaster | find cide and lets hang him from a tree |
| 09:39.46 | Mikk | plenty of our guild doesnt even use raidassists anymore |
| 09:39.47 | Grum | it still has rebirth stuck at 30 mins :( |
| 09:39.53 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 09:39.57 | [Ammo] | Mikk: you don't really need to |
| 09:40.00 | Mikk | idd |
| 09:40.05 | Grum | it is really usefull for cooldowns though |
| 09:40.12 | Grum | or did someone find a better way for that? |
| 09:40.13 | Mikk | we kinda use vent for that |
| 09:40.19 | [Ammo] | I'm reworking that a bit |
| 09:40.29 | [Ammo] | so you can have your own custom set of 'I want to see these cooldowns' |
| 09:40.33 | Grum | sure for that moment its useful; but it kinda sucks to ask all of your druids 'do you have rebirth up?' |
| 09:40.46 | [Ammo] | basically transmit all longer cooldowns and have a filter |
| 09:40.49 | nevcairiel | cooldowns still need addon-sync to be accurate, sadly |
| 09:40.56 | Grum | yeah i wonder why |
| 09:41.08 | Grum | the spellcasts should be global right? |
| 09:41.10 | [Ammo] | and display a few by default |
| 09:41.16 | [Ammo] | not entirely global |
| 09:41.18 | Mikk | ofc it doesnt help that oRA2 causes screen freezes |
| 09:41.24 | [Ammo] | ? |
| 09:41.26 | Grum | it does? |
| 09:41.27 | Grum | huh |
| 09:41.27 | Mikk | for some |
| 09:41.27 | nevcairiel | never did for me |
| 09:41.28 | [Ammo] | you kidding me? |
| 09:41.30 | Mikk | no |
| 09:41.40 | [Ammo] | boggling |
| 09:41.55 | Mikk | my personal guess is that it's to do with some frame layout where frames are anchored in two points to eachother |
| 09:41.57 | Fisker- | y helo thar? |
| 09:42.03 | Mikk | because i've seen that freeze up the layouter before |
| 09:42.15 | Mikk | it goes O(N^3) on it or something funky like that |
| 09:42.15 | [Ammo] | Mikk: I don't do funky shit afaik |
| 09:42.24 | Grum | i bet all the people having freezes also run questhelper ;) |
| 09:42.44 | Mikk | mmno i have a few people in my guild with that problem. it especially likes freezing up on leaving combat. |
| 09:42.55 | Mikk | disable ora -> problems gone -> reenable -> problems back |
| 09:43.01 | [Ammo] | boggle |
| 09:43.04 | Mikk | yeah i know |
| 09:43.05 | [Ammo] | I do nothing on combat |
| 09:43.06 | [Ammo] | I think |
| 09:43.18 | Grum | reset the MT frames? |
| 09:43.28 | Grum | nah that makes no sense :) |
| 09:43.32 | [Ammo] | I think it's all fables |
| 09:43.39 | [Ammo] | 'it must be oRA' |
| 09:43.46 | Grum | must be questhelper .. any problems come from questhelper |
| 09:43.49 | Grum | even GM's say that! |
| 09:43.52 | [Ammo] | rofl |
| 09:43.58 | [Ammo] | well questhelper is quite euhm, heavy |
| 09:44.03 | Mikk | at least one of the guys is actually clueful so i do trust him when he says he disabled ora and nothing else |
| 09:44.04 | Grum | 'my screen freezes!!!" -"Do you have questhelper?" |
| 09:44.15 | [Ammo] | Mikk: pure luck |
| 09:44.27 | Mikk | he _has_ tested it a bunch of times yaknow :P |
| 09:44.31 | [Ammo] | no-one in my guild ever complained |
| 09:44.38 | [Ammo] | might be an addon conflict |
| 09:44.39 | [Ammo] | or something |
| 09:44.45 | [Ammo] | there are addons that read the oRA mt frames |
| 09:44.47 | Grum | questhelper! |
| 09:44.48 | [Ammo] | and do CRAP to em |
| 09:44.55 | [Ammo] | so disabling oRA will make problems go away indeed |
| 09:44.58 | Mikk | oho |
| 09:45.07 | Mikk | can you think of any offhand? |
| 09:45.12 | doom0r | grid has some mt target one |
| 09:45.14 | Arrowmaster | doesnt pitbull? |
| 09:45.15 | [Ammo] | fucked up unitframes |
| 09:45.20 | doom0r | a plugin |
| 09:45.25 | [Ammo] | grid, pitbull or plugins |
| 09:45.32 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 09:45.48 | Fisker- | so doom0r |
| 09:45.53 | Mikk | asking him |
| 09:45.56 | Fisker- | What does your scanner say about my awesomelevel? |
| 09:46.01 | Grum | tbh MT frames should be default unitframes somewhere |
| 09:46.02 | [Ammo] | If tons of people had the issue because it was an oRA issue I'd be swamped with complaints |
| 09:46.02 | Codayus | Some grid plugins look at oRA. A few other addons will as well - anything that tries to figure out who is a tank may give it a go, which can include some odd addons. Trying to recall... |
| 09:46.13 | [Ammo] | and I ain't |
| 09:46.23 | [Ammo] | so its an issue with particular addon sets |
| 09:46.42 | doom0r | what awesomelevel |
| 09:46.52 | doom0r | you need a positive value to have something |
| 09:48.14 | [Ammo] | it might be still an issue in oRA ofcourse, but I doubt its caused by oRA itself |
| 09:48.31 | Mikk | nod, like i said, it's only a few that see it |
| 09:48.54 | Grum | if one of them has questhelper .. its questhelper! |
| 09:48.56 | Mikk | haha |
| 09:49.13 | Grum | remove questhelper and you get rid of global warming! |
| 09:49.46 | [Ammo] | tsk |
| 09:49.51 | pompy | is there a current exploit in sartharion to kill him easy with 3 drakes up? |
| 09:49.59 | Kalroth | yes pompy |
| 09:50.17 | Mikk | stack HAT rogues |
| 09:50.17 | Grum | yes have a good raid with people without questhelper |
| 09:50.17 | Mikk | and lots of hunters |
| 09:50.18 | Mikk | one with the scorpid pet |
| 09:50.20 | Kalroth | disc priests can solo him at the moment, so .. :) |
| 09:50.21 | robotusch | Thought it was just a matter of stacking deep holy priests :< |
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| 09:50.36 | [Ammo] | stack copious amounts of players with brains |
| 09:50.38 | Grum | you can win without using guardian spirit! |
| 09:50.41 | Xinhuan | pompy, yes |
| 09:50.44 | robotusch | Fisker-, come and dance at Naxxramas! |
| 09:50.47 | Kalroth | Grum: Easily |
| 09:51.00 | Xinhuan | there is an exploit |
| 09:51.03 | Grum | just uninstall questhelper and you win |
| 09:51.35 | Xinhuan | You get a disc priest with Reflective Shield, shield spams every cooldown while people sit in the lava (while the boss isn't engaged yet. i think). Apparently it reflects the magma damage back to Sarth and doesn't cause an engage. |
| 09:51.37 | pompy | yeah, some scrub people on my server just got the 'of the nightfall' title topnight |
| 09:51.39 | pompy | yes |
| 09:51.41 | Xinhuan | takes about 7 hours if you do it solo |
| 09:51.51 | Kalroth | If you stand in the lava around Sartharion, then it counts as Sartharion doing damage to you. A disc priest with Reflective Shield will reflect that damage to Sartharion, but without aggroing him. |
| 09:51.53 | Xinhuan | so, uh if you get 5 priests, should take about 2 hours or less |
| 09:52.06 | Xinhuan | so at 1%, you just run in, pull and engage and kill it |
| 09:52.11 | Kalroth | 1 hour later you get the title, but no loot. |
| 09:52.22 | Kalroth | No, you can't engage him. He does immune. |
| 09:52.28 | Grum | Xinhuan: lol |
| 09:52.33 | Kalroth | goes* |
| 09:52.33 | Xinhuan | that's not what i'm reading |
| 09:52.43 | Grum | that is kinda lame O.o |
| 09:52.48 | Xinhuan | "As soon as he dies the tree drakes will despawn but the trash doesn't and it will kill you. Soon as Sarth dies you get the achievements and titles. After trash kills you, rez up and collect all the loot, 4 badges and the mount." |
| 09:53.03 | pompy | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14287189204&sid=1 |
| 09:53.08 | Grum | maybe i should go solo 10+3 |
| 09:53.09 | Kalroth | Xinhuan: oh |
| 09:53.27 | Grum | so you also dont have to kill the trash right? |
| 09:54.15 | Xinhuan | you have to kill the initial pats |
| 09:54.18 | Xinhuan | near the starting point |
| 09:54.24 | Xinhuan | and kill it every 2 hours if they respawn |
| 09:54.41 | Xinhuan | and it'll only take 7 hours if you solo it |
| 09:54.50 | Xinhuan | with maxed hit gear so no reflects miss |
| 09:55.01 | Grum | so how do you cope with the dmg you take from the lava? |
| 09:55.07 | Grum | heal yourself for 7 hrs straight? |
| 09:55.09 | nevcairiel | the shield eats it |
| 09:55.19 | Arrowmaster | renew if needed |
| 09:55.41 | Mikk | the lava doesnt even do a lot of damage |
| 09:55.45 | Mikk | hence the silly amount of time needed |
| 09:55.48 | Grum | i am so gouing to try it now :p |
| 09:55.48 | Mikk | ticks for what.. 500? |
| 09:55.55 | Mikk | 1000? |
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| 09:56.43 | Xinhuan | you bring other healers |
| 09:56.46 | Xinhuan | to heal you |
| 09:56.57 | nevcairiel | thats not "solo" anymore, then =P |
| 09:57.04 | Bruners | onyxia resets tonight? |
| 09:57.09 | Xinhuan | the post never really hinted you can solo tbh |
| 09:57.27 | Xinhuan | its just an extrapolation that if you were able to solo it, it would take 7 hours |
| 09:57.28 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 09:57.29 | robotusch | so there |
| 09:57.29 | Arrowmaster | if you can avoid the trash you should be able to |
| 09:57.29 | Fisker- | o hai? |
| 09:57.45 | robotusch | 4 recipes missing for Chef Robodin :< |
| 09:57.51 | robotusch | or rather, 4 cooked goods |
| 09:57.57 | Fisker- | awww |
| 09:57.57 | Arrowmaster | the lava doesnt hurt at all, if you cant solo heal it constantly you need to not be wearing greens |
| 09:58.07 | Fisker- | or should i say BAWWWWWWWWWWW? |
| 09:58.21 | robotusch | you should have met me at Naxxramas & /dance'd :( |
| 09:58.27 | Fisker- | imma coming :( |
| 09:58.59 | doom0r | robotusch: there's 46 listed |
| 09:59.05 | doom0r | you only need 45 |
| 09:59.38 | Arrowmaster | they dont exist ingame though |
| 09:59.42 | robotusch | ^^ |
| 09:59.57 | doom0r | so? |
| 10:00.06 | doom0r | doesn't make 3 = 4 |
| 10:00.06 | Fisker- | all of your respective mothers |
| 10:00.09 | Arrowmaster | so its impossible to get the achivement |
| 10:00.13 | robotusch | I can't get mah tittle before 308 ;( |
| 10:00.48 | nevcairiel | yeah, kungalosch will be added as a recipe, and two recipes removed from the requirements |
| 10:00.49 | robotusch | even more annoying to be stuck on 156/160 recipes :/ |
| 10:01.00 | Stanzilla | 158/160 :( |
| 10:01.39 | Grum | you did a lot of cooking dailies |
| 10:01.57 | Xinhuan | In order to prevent players from attempting to reach a no decision in Arenas, and to ensure that all Arena matches are completed in a reasonable time frame, a 45 minute time limit has been added to Arena matches. At the end of this time limit if no team has achieved victory, both teams will lose 16 arena rating points. |
| 10:01.58 | Stanzilla | every day |
| 10:01.58 | robotusch | on 66 cooking awards so far, so yeah :D |
| 10:02.02 | Xinhuan | Please be aware that this loss in rating is not currently displaying properly and will instead show as a draw for both teams. This display issue will be addressed in a future update. |
| 10:02.05 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 10:02.07 | Mikk | <THE HORDE KILLER GUILD> |
| 10:02.12 | Mikk | gquits current guild and begs to join |
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| 10:02.43 | mitch0 | 45 min arena matches? wtf... |
| 10:02.44 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: any arena match that takes 45 minutes is totally wrong, anyway |
| 10:02.54 | Grum | i've seen arena matches take for over 5 hours |
| 10:02.58 | Grum | paladin vs druid |
| 10:03.02 | Grum | enjoy o.O |
| 10:03.05 | nevcairiel | I've had that once |
| 10:03.12 | nevcairiel | me (resto druid) against holy priest |
| 10:03.19 | Grum | resto druid wins |
| 10:03.31 | nevcairiel | possibly, sometime after a few hours |
| 10:03.37 | jnwhiteh|sleep | <Fianna an tSolais> |
| 10:03.40 | jnwhiteh|sleep | huzzah |
| 10:03.45 | jnwhiteh | I forgot we did that |
| 10:04.00 | doom0r | depends on who falls asleep or if one's a kid and their mom/dad make them stop playing or interrupt them |
| 10:04.11 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 10:04.22 | nevcairiel | i usually just ran around to not be mana burned |
| 10:04.30 | nevcairiel | and threw some moonfires on him =P |
| 10:04.31 | Megalon | but both sides loosing points is kinda meh |
| 10:04.37 | Grum | its kinda deserved |
| 10:04.45 | Megalon | they should just offer both sides to opt-in in a draw |
| 10:04.58 | Megalon | after noone dies for whatever minutes |
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| 10:05.34 | nevcairiel | any normal match wont reach that |
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| 10:05.52 | Mikk | agree Megalon |
| 10:05.52 | Megalon | any normal match is also over before 45mins |
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| 10:05.58 | Megalon | is reached |
| 10:06.03 | doom0r | leveling with a cat, to charge or not to charge |
| 10:06.29 | Arrowmaster | any normal match is over in less than 30 seconds |
| 10:06.39 | nevcairiel | i always charge =P |
| 10:06.42 | doom0r | you never had a match witha paladin? |
| 10:07.01 | doom0r | i meant hunter pet |
| 10:07.04 | nevcairiel | with a paladin it may take 45 seconds now |
| 10:07.04 | Fisker- | so nevcairiel |
| 10:07.07 | Fisker- | PATCH NEXT WEEK??? |
| 10:07.08 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 10:07.33 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-1: 03Whitetooth * r8 LibStatLogic-1.1/LibStatLogic-1.1.lua: - Fixed local tip and tipMiner being nil during lib upgrade |
| 10:08.02 | nevcairiel | haha todays xkcd is awesome |
| 10:08.15 | Fisker- | no me |
| 10:08.35 | Fisker- | i don't get it |
| 10:08.44 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: aye indeed |
| 10:09.02 | Whitetooth | PTR just had a new patch today though |
| 10:09.45 | Fisker- | see nevcairiel |
| 10:09.46 | Fisker- | http://www.isxkcdshittytoday.com/ |
| 10:09.49 | Fisker- | they agree |
| 10:10.25 | Arrowmaster | no they dont |
| 10:10.39 | Arrowmaster | site hasnt been updated since august |
| 10:10.42 | Megalon | it's yes for every day anyway :c |
| 10:11.11 | pompy | wow there's a bot sayin shit in trade channel right now.. |
| 10:11.13 | pompy | [Nmdmphpjmv]: WTS[Zeliek's Gauntlets][Mantle of the Extensive Mind][Sash of Jordan],Anyone need them plz wisper me and I have more Epic G |
| 10:11.56 | Zao | Epic gold, eh? |
| 10:11.57 | Fisker- | Anyways i still don't get it Arrowmaster |
| 10:12.24 | robotusch | It's simple, even Hitler is better than Vista |
| 10:12.32 | robotusch | I thought you'd agree that Hitler > * |
| 10:12.33 | doom0r | lol, sounds like someone isn't smart enough to get xkcd ;x |
| 10:13.01 | robotusch | no, that's just Fisker- in denial |
| 10:13.13 | doom0r | o, i was talking bout the site |
| 10:13.18 | doom0r | he just wants attention |
| 10:13.43 | Megalon | fisker is just the average troll pala |
| 10:14.02 | robotusch | Fisker- an average troll? gtfo |
| 10:14.04 | Fisker- | i'm no troll |
| 10:14.11 | Fisker- | also Megalon |
| 10:14.11 | Fisker- | i won |
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| 10:14.35 | Fisker- | http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=BJP73vSNRF0 <-bawwww |
| 10:15.40 | Zyndrome | errr |
| 10:16.12 | Repo | 10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken * r12 .pkgmeta: Changed .pkgmeta to not use tagged external libs... |
| 10:16.19 | robotusch | :D |
| 10:16.35 | robotusch | Fisker in HD. This I've gotta see |
| 10:21.24 | Repo | 10muf: 03vaeyl * r14 / (8 files in 8 directories): more modifications for restructuring |
| 10:24.17 | Bruners | Spotify is awesome! |
| 10:24.22 | Mikk | quite |
| 10:24.23 | Zao | Sure is. |
| 10:26.16 | Bruners | 15 USD a month is to bad either |
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| 10:36.24 | Elkano | anyone of you having a druid on PTR that could test if MINIMAP_UPDATE_TRACKING fires when leaving cat form? |
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| 10:41.17 | Shefki | Elkano: Sure. |
| 10:41.40 | Shefki | Give me a sec to get devtools installed for that. |
| 10:42.07 | Elkano | since it doesn't on 3.0.3 resulting in EBB's tracking not updating in that case |
| 10:43.03 | Shefki | Bahh. Haven't downloaded the patch yet. |
| 10:43.43 | thul | http://xkcd.com/ |
| 10:43.51 | Skellum | elk, there a way with your buffbars to have it switch filtering on and off based on being in a raid or not? |
| 10:44.06 | Elkano | Skellum, no |
| 10:44.18 | Skellum | :( |
| 10:44.32 | Skellum | in raids theres too many timeless buffs to be assed with seeing |
| 10:45.10 | Shefki | Elkano: crazy idea, but ever thought about taking the ticket status window and hiding it and making a bar on the buff bars for it. I hate the damn thing and sometimes it takes days for them to actually answer the damn things. |
| 10:45.14 | Elkano | my intention for v3 is to split black/whitelists from groups so you can a) apply them to multiple groups and b) easily un/reapply them |
| 10:45.54 | thul | good idea. |
| 10:46.02 | Elkano | since I also had the idea to eg remove raid buffs during combat and such |
| 10:46.15 | Elkano | but will need some more draft work and such |
| 10:52.22 | Xinhuan | there's someone on my realm on a lvl 1 linking fake completed achievements |
| 10:52.25 | Xinhuan | in trade chat now ~_~ |
| 10:53.15 | SunTsu | Elkano: On r141 I had problems getting rogue's "Savage Combat" http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=58683 showing up as a debuff in a group with whitelist. Is that a known or even fixed froblem? |
| 10:53.30 | SunTsu | or even problem? |
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| 10:56.07 | Shefki | Elkano: Well devtools doesn't have an option for tracking that event. But Track Humanoids still doesn't clear on your buff bars when shifting out of cat form. |
| 10:56.49 | Elkano | then they most likely not fixed it :/ |
| 10:58.07 | nevcairiel | ~wowalert |
| 10:58.07 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 10:59.51 | Mikk | Hey how's this for a minimod for e.g. chatter: |
| 10:59.56 | Mikk | Move the gmotd to much later in the logon listing |
| 11:00.07 | Mikk | Like after all the channel join / addon spam |
| 11:01.33 | Mikk | isnt feeling the love |
| 11:03.06 | Skellum | nifty, though i wouldnt take time out of my day to DL it |
| 11:03.52 | Mikk | Neither would I if it was a standalone |
| 11:04.09 | Mikk | If it just happened to come packed in a chatter update I wouldnt mind it personally |
| 11:04.20 | Mikk | And it's all of 10 lines of code |
| 11:11.16 | Zyndrome | you know what I'm fed up with ... getting BSOD every time I plug in any USB-device into a hispeed USB port on the back of my computer |
| 11:11.46 | Zyndrome | the only USB-ports that doesnt cause BSOD, are the ones in the USB-hub in my keyboard :| |
| 11:12.02 | Zyndrome | (which operates at like ... 0.1 byte / year speed) |
| 11:15.27 | Mikk | Vista? :P |
| 11:16.00 | Fisker- | nah |
| 11:16.02 | Fisker- | failed hardware |
| 11:16.04 | Fisker- | = failed |
| 11:16.24 | Mikk | I'd believe that if he was trying to plug your private parts in |
| 11:16.33 | Fisker- | he was |
| 11:18.03 | Fisker- | think i'll go use Windows 7 as my working enviroment |
| 11:18.04 | Megalon | at least it would not get falldamage after that |
| 11:18.07 | Fisker- | What could possibly go wrong? |
| 11:18.13 | Fisker- | damn |
| 11:18.23 | Fisker- | Megalon figured out how to exploit the bug |
| 11:19.00 | sb|work | Fisker-: tell me when ms download is working... |
| 11:19.04 | Zyndrome | Mikk , I'll use Vista if Im held at gunpoint |
| 11:20.04 | Fisker- | sb|work 8:45 to go |
| 11:20.16 | sb|work | okay |
| 11:20.34 | Fisker- | Vista aint that bad Zyndrome |
| 11:20.43 | sb|work | viata is great.. compared to xp :/ |
| 11:20.53 | sb|work | memory management and stuff |
| 11:21.05 | Repo | 10grid: 03Greltok 07unitguid * r1115 / (2 files in 1 directory): Aggro status module can now display threat status. |
| 11:21.08 | sb|work | Fisker-: the only bad thing is the august 1st expiration... |
| 11:21.13 | sb|work | what to do then? :p |
| 11:21.20 | sb|work | release wont be available till 2010 |
| 11:21.32 | Fisker- | That's only the timebomb on Beta 1 |
| 11:21.44 | Fisker- | By then we'll have Beta 2, RC or RTM |
| 11:22.01 | sb|work | well -= assuming that you can update beta 1 to b2 / RC / ... :p |
| 11:22.10 | Fisker- | not to mention it can easily be disabled |
| 11:22.42 | Stanzilla | Fisker-: no beta 2 |
| 11:22.48 | Stanzilla | Beta => RC => RTM |
| 11:22.58 | Fisker- | i know it's not expected no |
| 11:23.15 | Fisker- | Just saying that any of those 3 things will be there within august 1st |
| 11:23.28 | sb|work | hmm yep... |
| 11:23.35 | Stanzilla | yep |
| 11:23.47 | Stanzilla | Fisker-: I still want to see how you use the taskbar |
| 11:23.59 | sb|work | Fisker-: do you know about drivers and stuff? |
| 11:24.03 | sb|work | graphics card etc. |
| 11:24.10 | Stanzilla | ati released drivers today |
| 11:24.10 | Fisker- | Vista drivers work fine |
| 11:24.14 | Stanzilla | nvidia has some on windows update |
| 11:24.14 | sb|work | okay |
| 11:24.26 | nevcairiel | creative doesnt have drivers, but that was to be expected =P |
| 11:24.26 | Fisker- | Except shitty drivers that go "o lawd you don't have vista because we want to check for your os and shit" |
| 11:24.31 | Fisker- | They do nevcairiel |
| 11:24.35 | Fisker- | they just don't allow you to install them |
| 11:25.06 | Fisker- | Sanyways reboot tiems, then install tiems, ???, o shi-/profit |
| 11:25.09 | nevcairiel | at least for audigy there are drivers on windows update |
| 11:25.13 | Codayus | I think Creative *wants* people to hate them. |
| 11:26.22 | Codayus | Their approach to drivers appears to be "whatever you want, you can't have it. Unless you really really want it; then we'll charge you money just for a driver update. And if you figure out how to get it anyhow, we'll sue your ass, because we hate you. Please die." |
| 11:26.22 | Bruners | Bruners 1 - Onyxia 2 |
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| 11:30.08 | Mikk | Oh, wow, the gmotd comes flying before VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 11:30.09 | Mikk | bish |
| 11:32.53 | Mikk | hm no it doesn't. i lie. |
| 11:33.11 | Bruners | LIER! |
| 11:33.35 | Mikk | ace3 OnEnable is too late though |
| 11:34.09 | Xinhuan | i think if i want to read gmotd, i would just open guild pane ;p |
| 11:34.35 | Mikk | Xinhuan: problem is people tend to miss it on login, so if you scream something important there.... |
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| 11:35.04 | Mikk | aha, the first ace3 OnEnable only happens at PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 11:35.07 | Mikk | didnt realize |
| 11:35.12 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 11:35.14 | Xinhuan | you didn't? |
| 11:35.22 | Mikk | i haven't had to know! |
| 11:35.34 | Xinhuan | wow replace this guy on the ace3 team ;p |
| 11:35.37 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 11:35.42 | Mikk | i didnt write aceaddon mkay :P |
| 11:36.09 | Xinhuan | i think acegui is the only ace3 lib i haven't scrutinized |
| 11:36.30 | Xinhuan | its reportedly hanging on my gathermate subtree |
| 11:36.33 | Xinhuan | for some ppl |
| 11:36.37 | Xinhuan | and i have no idea why |
| 11:36.50 | Mikk | oO |
| 11:37.14 | nevcairiel | those people just fail |
| 11:37.33 | [Ammo] | I wrote most of aceaddon :p |
| 11:37.56 | Xinhuan | i helped to optimize parts of it :p |
| 11:38.15 | Mikk | I have a fuzzy memory of having some design input early on but that's about it |
| 11:38.15 | [Ammo] | I am not into optimization that much :) |
| 11:38.23 | Mikk | I shurly had nothing to do with picking what events did what :P |
| 11:38.28 | [Ammo] | I code concepts and then let others do the nitty gritty :) |
| 11:38.31 | Xinhuan | my specialty is code optimization hehe |
| 11:38.48 | [Ammo] | I did make up the modulecore inside addon stuff |
| 11:39.08 | Xinhuan | yes and messed up the enable/disable :) |
| 11:39.14 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 11:39.19 | Xinhuan | and the internal registry hehe |
| 11:39.22 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 11:39.26 | [Ammo] | it got fixed eventually :) |
| 11:39.30 | [Ammo] | but the concept was there! |
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| 11:40.34 | Fisker- | roars |
| 11:40.45 | *** kick/#wowace [Fisker-!n=wouter@WoWUIDev/WowAce/ammo] by [Ammo] (roarback) |
| 11:40.49 | [Ammo] | :p |
| 11:41.00 | [Ammo] | anual kick |
| 11:41.03 | [Ammo] | and its january |
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| 11:41.08 | Fisker- | unroars |
| 11:41.14 | [Ammo] | better |
| 11:41.16 | Xinhuan | takes off ear muffs |
| 11:41.17 | Mikk | can i haz fisker kicking powarz too? |
| 11:42.07 | Mikk | doesn't necessarily have to mean op. if you install a script trigger that i can use i'm fine. |
| 11:42.19 | Fisker- | :( |
| 11:42.29 | Fisker- | Why isn't my GTX 285 in stock |
| 11:42.31 | Fisker- | do want :( |
| 11:42.56 | Xinhuan | ran away due to excessive roaring |
| 11:43.00 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-1: 03Whitetooth * r9 LibStatLogic-1.1/LibStatLogic-1.1.lua: (Message trimmed by 3 lines) |
| 11:43.02 | Repo | - Death Knight: Added Stance: Frost Presence detection fixed |
| 11:43.05 | Repo | - Death Knight: Added Buff: Bone Shield: Damage reduced by 40%. |
| 11:43.08 | Repo | - 3.0.8: Death Knight: Updated Stance: Frost Presence: The bonus armor has been increased from 60 to 80% and magic damage reduction increased from 5 to 15%. |
| 11:43.11 | Repo | - 3.0.8: Death Knight: Updated Buff: Bone Shield: Damage reduced by 20%. |
| 11:43.39 | Fisker- | soon be bai tiems due to Windows 7 install |
| 11:43.47 | Repo | 10grid-status-mts: 03kunda * r31 GridStatusMTs.lua: GridStatusMTs: |
| 11:43.57 | Repo | - this module requires GridRoster |
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| 11:44.03 | Repo | - added GridRoster check |
| 11:44.07 | Repo | - little cleanup |
| 11:44.44 | Fisker- | secretly hates haste |
| 11:45.06 | Skellum | Heh |
| 11:46.09 | Stanzilla | crit > haste :P |
| 11:47.07 | Repo | 10grid-status-threat: 03kunda * r43 GridStatusThreat.lua: GridStatusThreat: |
| 11:47.10 | Repo | - this module requires GridRoster |
| 11:47.12 | Repo | - added GridRoster check |
| 11:47.55 | Repo | 10grid-status-raid-icons: 03kunda * r33 GridStatusRaidIcons.lua: GridStatusRaidIcons: |
| 11:47.57 | Repo | - this module requires GridRoster |
| 11:48.00 | Repo | - added GridRoster check |
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| 11:48.56 | Lywellyn | Anyone aware of an addon that allows you to make video setting profiles (like, say, for soloing, or for raiding) and the ability to switch between them? |
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| 11:49.41 | Fisker- | 1 billion dollars to the person who disables death and decay and the other ground aoe stuff from death knights without disabling other spell effects :3 |
| 11:50.50 | Zyndrome | casts D&D on top of Fisker- |
| 11:52.02 | Fisker- | rages |
| 11:52.38 | Xinhuan | do that more often please |
| 11:52.39 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 11:53.07 | [Ammo] | idd |
| 11:54.06 | Megalon | covers Zyndrome up in gold and gifts! |
| 11:55.41 | Kalroth | I guess it's possible to replace D&D effect with another effect, but LIZARD wouldn't approve of it |
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| 12:00.25 | Repo | 10guilder: 03onaforeignshore 07master * 1.0.0-9-gcf069a4 / (7 files in 4 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 12:00.28 | Repo | cf069a4: Added custom LibRaid |
| 12:00.30 | Repo | d8f604d: finalised Version Checker |
| 12:00.33 | Repo | b4c6a18: removed TODO.txt |
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| 12:01.37 | Zyndrome | speaking of rage : http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=JVJD-Thkjv4 ... compared to ... http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=ECjDfQd8QVc |
| 12:01.47 | Bruners | 2x unholy dk's in a raid is painful |
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| 12:04.34 | quiescens | how so? |
| 12:07.24 | Zyndrome | naw, any number of DKs in the raid with the current d&d-glyph = instant winrar , keep those adds CC'd for ever :p |
| 12:09.54 | Kalroth | I prefer 7zip |
| 12:13.17 | Zao | It also keeps the framerate of the less fortunate observers down for ever :) |
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| 12:15.01 | nevcairiel | screw less fortunate observers! |
| 12:15.28 | thul | http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=EVcyNANK5cY |
| 12:16.44 | thul | http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=15S0g8pG6HU |
| 12:16.55 | Repo | 10muf: 03vaeyl * r15 / (5 files in 5 directories): bugfixing |
| 12:16.57 | Repo | still trouble with securing the frames |
| 12:17.03 | dodga | Is there some way I can get information about an item (e.g. stats, bonuses, ...) from outside the game using the item-id without scanning wowheads (or any other sites) HTML pages? |
| 12:17.18 | Nizomi | so uhm |
| 12:17.42 | Nizomi | autobar has libs included, what do i do if one of this libs produces an error? just place a new lib version in the libs\ folder? |
| 12:18.41 | nevcairiel | what lib is causing the error? |
| 12:19.35 | thul | http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=PFoEKcf01qs |
| 12:23.03 | Megalon | thul: haha, yea this guy has some nice vids up on youtube :D |
| 12:24.44 | Skellum | Zao, the issue with D&D isnt the spell, or the glyph, its Morbidity |
| 12:25.05 | quiescens | I don't know, the glyph is pretty hax |
| 12:25.12 | Wobin | yeah |
| 12:25.16 | Wobin | goddamn morbidity |
| 12:25.25 | Wobin | of all the random wtf bugs... morbidity is one of them =P |
| 12:25.26 | Skellum | Which doesnt make any fucking sense |
| 12:25.42 | Skellum | 15% extra deathcoil damage, 15 seconds off death and decay |
| 12:25.49 | Wobin | yeah |
| 12:25.52 | Skellum | Somehow makes D&D lag the fuck out of people |
| 12:25.55 | Wobin | it doesn't affect the animation at all |
| 12:26.01 | Nizomi | nevcairiel: LibBabble-Zone-3.0 |
| 12:26.05 | Wobin | rather, it -shouldn't- affect it at all =P |
| 12:26.10 | Nizomi | hm sexymap doesnt like rotating minimap :/ |
| 12:26.23 | Wobin | are you trying to mate your mapmods together? |
| 12:27.15 | Nizomi | nope |
| 12:27.19 | Nizomi | rotating minimap is a wow option now a mod |
| 12:27.22 | Nizomi | *not |
| 12:27.33 | Nizomi | the problem is that the minimap rotates but the notes don't o.ô |
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| 12:28.22 | Nizomi | the north arrow thingy doesnt rotate either |
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| 12:34.22 | Wobin | hehe I like SexyMap's HudMap |
| 12:34.26 | Wobin | It's like playing tetris |
| 12:34.30 | Nizomi | xD |
| 12:34.35 | Nizomi | well it bugs a bit with routes |
| 12:35.16 | Wobin | the game is to catch as many nodes in the ring as you can! |
| 12:35.48 | Nizomi | the problem is that the drawings get a bit off |
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| 12:37.52 | Xinhuan | ~dict forte |
| 12:38.54 | Wobin | context, Xin? |
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| 12:39.19 | Skellum | Heres a question |
| 12:39.32 | Skellum | How difficult would it be to change the appearance of warlock fire to green? |
| 12:39.43 | Nizomi | o.o |
| 12:39.52 | Wobin | very |
| 12:40.12 | Wobin | impossible, say without replacing the model |
| 12:40.21 | Skellum | mmm |
| 12:40.27 | Xinhuan | well, context is "area of expertise" |
| 12:40.28 | Skellum | So easy for blizzard hard for others |
| 12:40.37 | Xinhuan | or "specialty"? |
| 12:40.53 | Wobin | Ah, "Cooking is my forte!" |
| 12:41.01 | Skellum | Was just thinking about greenfire, it pops up in every warlocks mind from time to time |
| 12:41.16 | Wobin | Xinhuan: Possibly in analogy to "This is where I can play the loudest" =P |
| 12:41.54 | Nizomi | can i smehow reset sexymaps button positions? |
| 12:41.56 | Skellum | I always wonder why on earth they wont make the change, or at least a minor glyph for it |
| 12:42.11 | Nizomi | cuz the dragging of the "-" button bugged and now its stuck at the top :/ |
| 12:42.51 | Nizomi | bot the notes started working to rotate XD |
| 12:51.27 | Repo | 10chatter: 03mikk * r221 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 12:51.29 | Repo | Add small non-configurable "DelayGMOTD" module: all it does is delay the first gmotd 2.5 seconds to make it show after all the addon / channel join spam |
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| 12:55.13 | Nizomi | anyone here using routes, sexymap (with the hud), gathermate and cartographer? |
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| 12:58.31 | onaforeignshore | WTF\Account\<account name>\SavedVariables\sexymap.lua - config file ? |
| 13:02.34 | Nizomi | hm? |
| 13:02.52 | Nizomi | i'd like to have a working routes thingy :/ |
| 13:03.35 | Wobin | I like the hud |
| 13:03.35 | Megalon | routes+sexymap+gathermate+mapster works without any problems for me :o |
| 13:03.42 | Wobin | it's just a bit hard to focus past at times |
| 13:04.04 | Nizomi | well the drawings from routes are a bit off |
| 13:04.45 | Nizomi | like there: http://img2.abload.de/img/blub3ofo.jpg the lines should be at the herb node (red circles) |
| 13:04.59 | Nizomi | if gets more off the further it is away |
| 13:06.21 | Nizomi | or there: http://img2.abload.de/img/pointoffony6.jpg but for that it goes too high when i rotate, its kinda right when in the position "right from the center point": http://www.abload.de/img/pointrightdooh.jpg |
| 13:07.15 | nevcairiel | does it look right on the default minimap with rotation? |
| 13:08.34 | Nizomi | yep |
| 13:10.38 | Nizomi | i might also add that my minimap stays dark after using the hud xD |
| 13:11.48 | Shot` | my hud stopped rotating the other day |
| 13:12.07 | Shot` | it always has north at the top now, and doesn't display any blips |
| 13:12.35 | Nizomi | http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=hudmapzwto.jpg http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=minimapllrh.jpg |
| 13:19.49 | Repo | 10grid-status-threat: 03kunda * r44 GridStatusThreat.lua: better variable name |
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| 13:25.26 | Repo | 10tank-points: 03Whitetooth * r93 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Code cleanup |
| 13:25.29 | Repo | - Fixed StatFrame data not updated correctly during stance/presence/form/aura change |
| 13:28.00 | Bruners | Nizomi: they are not off, just clustered |
| 13:28.49 | Nizomi | ... how aren't they off |
| 13:28.59 | Nizomi | http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=hudmapzwto.jpg 2 red circles |
| 13:29.11 | Nizomi | red circle are too high for the golden point |
| 13:29.32 | Nizomi | http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=minimapllrh.jpg red circle on/little below the golden point |
| 13:29.41 | nevcairiel | maybe its an unknown node |
| 13:29.49 | nevcairiel | and not the one gathermate has =P |
| 13:30.03 | Bruners | or clustered |
| 13:30.11 | Bruners | *and |
| 13:30.15 | nevcairiel | the node circles dont move on clustering |
| 13:30.17 | nevcairiel | only the routes do |
| 13:30.55 | Xinhuan | i think he's saying the minimap/worldmap is correct, but the hudmap is not |
| 13:31.00 | Nizomi | yep |
| 13:31.01 | Nizomi | :p |
| 13:31.22 | Xinhuan | that is, the hudmap is probably drawing lines/dots with the wrong offsets |
| 13:31.26 | nevcairiel | blame sexmap |
| 13:31.32 | nevcairiel | *sexymap |
| 13:31.38 | Xinhuan | might be to do with hudmap scaling, or ui scaling |
| 13:31.49 | quiescens | go to sleep xinhuan |
| 13:31.52 | Nizomi | with reference to my post above: http://img2.abload.de/img/pointrightdooh.jpg and the some node with my character having turned a bit http://img2.abload.de/img/pointoffony6.jpg |
| 13:32.09 | Xinhuan | u can bug Antiarc about it |
| 13:32.12 | Xinhuan | slaps Antiarc away with a large trout |
| 13:32.15 | Nizomi | well |
| 13:32.18 | Nizomi | antiarc is away |
| 13:32.18 | Nizomi | xD |
| 13:32.24 | Bruners | nevcairiel: why is CC a7 installing bartender with both external and embedded libs? |
| 13:32.27 | Zyndrome | god damnit ... tilt-shifting is the new sharpen filter in video/photo editing |
| 13:32.28 | quiescens | poor trout |
| 13:32.32 | Zyndrome | ò_ó |
| 13:32.39 | nevcairiel | Bruners: i dont work on the CC |
| 13:33.03 | Bruners | nevcairiel: its only doing it with bartneder :> |
| 13:33.14 | nevcairiel | Bruners: i dont work on the CC |
| 13:33.32 | Bruners | i still think its your fault :P |
| 13:34.10 | Xinhuan | *nevcairiel invokes the power of tai ji and deflects the blame to kody* |
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| 13:35.30 | Nizomi | Xinhuan: any way to have a finer drag-around thingy for editing routes? |
| 13:35.38 | Xinhuan | no |
| 13:35.48 | Xinhuan | you can always enlarge your world map |
| 13:35.56 | Xinhuan | world map's scaling that is |
| 13:36.05 | Xinhuan | on your cartographer's look-n-feel |
| 13:36.29 | Bruners | why would CC do that really, postal and sexymap good, bartender and chatter bad |
| 13:36.29 | Nizomi | meh :/ |
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| 13:36.47 | Nizomi | i hate it when it makes a route where you would have to get up and down cliffs xD |
| 13:37.00 | Xinhuan | do you know sexymap and chatter has the same author? ;p |
| 13:37.14 | Bruners | yes, i know that |
| 13:38.32 | Nizomi | Xinhuan: like for that excavation site in southern barrens, theres tin down in the excavation site and tin around it(up on the cliffs), now routes tries to go up the cliffs, i'd like a way to change that but it's too small of a change for worldmap dragging |
| 13:39.18 | Xinhuan | you can feel free to use Taboo Regions |
| 13:39.23 | Xinhuan | its designed for that purpose |
| 13:40.56 | quiescens | climb the cliff |
| 13:41.08 | quiescens | go the other way around and leap off |
| 13:41.09 | Nizomi | taboo regions would exclude the entire area |
| 13:41.23 | ramoz | just make it small enough? :O |
| 13:41.26 | Nizomi | quiescens: sure i can, but i would liek to correct the route itself ^^ |
| 13:41.54 | Xinhuan | what i would so |
| 13:42.01 | Xinhuan | is make a super thin taboo region |
| 13:42.11 | Xinhuan | that perimeters the excavation site |
| 13:42.20 | Repo | 10buttonfacade: 03StormFX * r205 Locales/zhCN.lua: - zhCN tweaks (ananhaid) |
| 13:42.43 | Xinhuan | if you're not very sure what i'm talking about |
| 13:42.46 | Xinhuan | check this screenshot |
| 13:42.46 | Xinhuan | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw19593.jpg |
| 13:43.09 | Nizomi | ah |
| 13:43.09 | Xinhuan | there's a E shaped taboo region that draws some perimeters around some stuff |
| 13:43.21 | quiescens | E shaped. |
| 13:43.21 | Xinhuan | you can then go in/exit by the "normal route" |
| 13:43.33 | Xinhuan | not ideal, but it works, somewhat |
| 13:44.00 | quiescens | what I didn't like was having to name all the taboo regions |
| 13:44.07 | quiescens | as well as name every route |
| 13:44.11 | Nizomi | a nice feature would be something like taboo regions creation etc with player position |
| 13:44.56 | Xinhuan | nah i'm not adding such features |
| 13:45.26 | Nizomi | so i can use a slash cmd to start creation of it and then i go around using slash cmd or button to add new points |
| 13:45.29 | Nizomi | and at the end i finish it |
| 13:45.30 | Nizomi | :o |
| 13:45.47 | Xinhuan | i am quite certain you can use the drag and drop in taboo region creation to create it much faster |
| 13:47.08 | Nizomi | well, the whole excavation site at 100% size is like the "line size" of your e-shaped taboo region |
| 13:47.49 | Nizomi | can i view taboo region points in minimap? |
| 13:47.55 | Nizomi | so i actually can check if i put it right |
| 13:47.55 | Xinhuan | no |
| 13:48.00 | Nizomi | :/ |
| 13:48.20 | Mikk | i can see why |
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| 13:48.40 | Nizomi | see why what? |
| 13:48.44 | Mikk | cutting a region to a circle = no fun |
| 13:49.09 | Xinhuan | it isn't, but i honestly don't expect users to really use Routes in non-flying areas |
| 13:49.11 | Nizomi | lol |
| 13:49.24 | Xinhuan | its meant from ground up to be mainly for flyable areas |
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| 13:49.52 | Nizomi | well theres no lore point for not being able to fly in old azeroth, so they should make it possible xD |
| 13:50.21 | nevcairiel | it works pretty good in some areas |
| 13:50.33 | nevcairiel | when you map some mountains |
| 13:50.49 | Xinhuan | searing gorge is a no-no :D |
| 13:51.06 | nevcairiel | i used it in duskwood for mining skilling |
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| 13:54.44 | Nizomi | Xinhuan: would a plugin be able to add this "create" functionality? :p |
| 13:54.47 | Bruners | Kaelten: CC a7 is installing both external and embedded libs for bartender, chatter, buttonfacade, gathermate, omen and questhelper |
| 13:54.52 | Xinhuan | don't think s |
| 13:54.53 | Xinhuan | so |
| 13:57.13 | Groktar | pounces Xinhuan |
| 13:57.29 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Ammo * r4 / (11 files in 2 directories): add start of a panel GUI next to the raid frame |
| 13:57.31 | Repo | panel GUI by Cladhaire originally from LightHeaded |
| 13:58.12 | Stanzilla | sexy |
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| 14:01.54 | Mercster | hi...i was wondering if anyone could help me with an interface issue...i am using ag_unitframes as a troll shaman, but i cant figure out how to move the "totem auras", which show up above the player frame and is quite annoying |
| 14:02.02 | Mercster | anyone know what im talking about / know a solution? |
| 14:05.05 | Megalon | the only thing you can do is turn that module off completely i think |
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| 14:06.13 | Mercster | alright. i tried that and used totemtimers addon, but frankly i dont need that much functionality, plus its large and i dont have much screen real estate left |
| 14:06.34 | Mercster | im using buffalo for buffs, it'd be nice if the totems could show up there |
| 14:07.20 | Mercster | know of any other totem-aura display, that isnt a full totem management addon? |
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| 14:07.48 | Mercster | i mainly need the auras for right-click-disabling |
| 14:09.29 | Mercster | looks around his WoW UI for a place to put totemtimers |
| 14:09.31 | Mercster | :-/ |
| 14:09.38 | Mercster | ohhh i can scale it down |
| 14:09.40 | Mercster | that may work |
| 14:10.46 | Kopokopolo | aaahh, the joys of a 1920x1200 24" ^^ |
| 14:11.44 | haste | my computer has enough issues with 1680x1050 D: |
| 14:12.24 | Mercster | Kopokopolo: heh. nice. my display is 17" 1280x01024 |
| 14:12.33 | Mercster | i have UI scaling down far enough to make me squint as it is |
| 14:12.34 | Kopokopolo | mine randomly crashes every now and then though :/ |
| 14:13.06 | Mercster | i found i can scale down totem timers tho, so this may be workable |
| 14:13.32 | Kopokopolo | you'll hurt your eyes :\ |
| 14:13.43 | Mercster | eyes have been ruined since i was 11 or so anyway ;P |
| 14:13.46 | Mercster | legally blind |
| 14:13.56 | Kopokopolo | big and simple, and uncluttered is the way to go! |
| 14:13.57 | Mercster | then years staring at unix terminals with way too small a font |
| 14:13.59 | Kopokopolo | ok >.< |
| 14:14.00 | Mercster | heh |
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| 14:14.11 | Mercster | yeah well, unclutered is good, i use a lot of addons to make the interface clean |
| 14:14.14 | Kopokopolo | my eyesight is pretty bad without contacts too |
| 14:14.46 | Mercster | but still, gotta put quest tracker somewhere...gotta put map somewhere...gotta put bbuttonbars somewhere (i could learn to use only keystrokes, but that aint happening overnight) |
| 14:14.54 | Mercster | gotta put chatbox somewhere |
| 14:15.14 | Mercster | i use addons to reduce the clutter and allow me to put as much as i can around the edges, and scale them down |
| 14:15.23 | kenlyric | UI scaling should be all the way down |
| 14:15.31 | Nizomi | so |
| 14:15.32 | kenlyric | bump up font size if you have to aquint |
| 14:15.37 | Kopokopolo | Mercster, there's addons at like OPie that might give some help, at least http://www.go-hero.net/opie/ |
| 14:15.38 | kenlyric | *squint |
| 14:15.39 | Nizomi | since there seems to be a limited set of caves thats often reused |
| 14:15.40 | Mercster | i use clearfont2 which allows me to make chat box smaller with a more readable font |
| 14:15.50 | Nizomi | are there any addons out there that do "cave maps"? |
| 14:16.04 | Kopokopolo | not really to useful foroften used abilities as is, but for other stuff it works quite well |
| 14:16.18 | kenlyric | how would a cave map be useful? |
| 14:16.24 | kenlyric | you know what they all look like |
| 14:17.28 | kenlyric | and no, there isn't a mod that does it |
| 14:18.44 | Mercster | doesnt cartographer have cave maps? |
| 14:18.52 | Mercster | (sorry im a newb, prolly dont understand question) |
| 14:21.56 | Kopokopolo | long time since I last used carto now, but it doesn't? instance maps perhaps, but not caves... dunno if that was what he meant though? |
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| 14:24.29 | Mercster | i dunno when i go into a cave, there's a map |
| 14:24.41 | Mercster | and the only map addon i have is cartographer |
| 14:25.11 | kenlyric | I thought the game provided them, but I assumed I was wrong based on his question. |
| 14:25.21 | Kopokopolo | maybe, like I said, long time ago :/ |
| 14:25.57 | Kopokopolo | the minimap is enough usally, shows most of the place anyway :p |
| 14:26.08 | Mercster | oh thats what i meant, minimap, sorry |
| 14:26.16 | Mercster | see, i shouldnt be telling anyone anything |
| 14:27.31 | Mercster | kenlyric: if i have to scale buttons/titanbar/fonts in box up to see them anyway, whats the use of setting UI scale all the way down? i dont have the default WoW ui in most places (use bartender4, simpleminimap, buffalo etc) and those elements can be individually scaled |
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| 14:28.09 | kenlyric | ah, i'm lazy |
| 14:28.17 | kenlyric | UI scale scales them all down at once |
| 14:28.19 | Mercster | kenlyric: not arguing, honestly wanting input |
| 14:28.24 | Mercster | ahh, true |
| 14:28.26 | Mercster | but also fonts |
| 14:28.33 | kenlyric | and I only need to change fonts |
| 14:28.35 | Mercster | i use UI scale but not all the way |
| 14:28.53 | Mercster | kenlyric: hmm...how do you change font in the quest log? |
| 14:28.57 | Mercster | not sure how to do that |
| 14:30.09 | Mercster | i think just because of the size limitations of my monitor, i need to be able to individually scale seperate entities, by different amounts, to make best use of the space |
| 14:30.18 | kenlyric | no idea, i use questfu |
| 14:30.21 | Mercster | some things i can scale way down, like button bars...some things like the quest log, not so much |
| 14:34.03 | Kopokopolo | anyway, hacked together a quick lib earlier this morning as a learning experience (don't know lua nor wow-addon making): |
| 14:34.07 | Kopokopolo | LibGrudge, an addon independent way of keeping track of people you (dis)like, or you think play well. Will provide a KoS/hate/nice "list" interface as well, for easy integration into such addons |
| 14:34.36 | Mercster | haha |
| 14:34.59 | Kopokopolo | *really* hackish and incomplete at the moment, but I don't feel there is any more in it (in way of learning) for me, unless there is some demand |
| 14:36.51 | Mercster | Kopokopolo: i probably havent played long enough to get anyone real mad, but so far havent met anyone REALLY annoying |
| 14:37.03 | Kopokopolo | http://www.wowace.com/paste/107/ <---- here it is, in all it's ugliness, redundancy and incompleteness: feel free to comment (indeed please do so) but keep in mind I didn't (still don't) know anything about lua |
| 14:37.10 | Mercster | i imagine noone wants to screw with a newb |
| 14:37.46 | Kopokopolo | Mercster: tbh, me neither, not really particularily interested in kill-on-sight thing, I think I'll remember people that annoys me that much ;) |
| 14:38.52 | Mercster | Kopokopolo: honestly i think ive only been annoyed twice, and it was really minor stuff |
| 14:38.57 | Mercster | just jackassing in chat |
| 14:39.09 | Kopokopolo | it's more of an "appreciate" thing than "hatelists" thing |
| 14:39.19 | Mercster | well, one time a guy from my guild wasnt being a good teammember, but he was new and left the guild later that day |
| 14:39.24 | Mercster | Kopokopolo: nod |
| 14:39.28 | Kopokopolo | interface is supposed to be more like "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" |
| 14:39.33 | Nizomi | kenlyric: i always run into dead ends in caves :D |
| 14:39.40 | Kopokopolo | "digg" or "dislike", so to speak |
| 14:39.43 | Mercster | Kopokopolo: is this something that would have more use on a pvp server perhaps? |
| 14:40.23 | Mercster | Kopokopolo: or possibly at higher levels, where things arent as spaced out and people see one another at instances/etc |
| 14:40.25 | Kopokopolo | never been on pve, but yes - at least the "hate" part, for gankers |
| 14:40.30 | Mercster | nod |
| 14:40.53 | Mercster | on the pve servers ive been, so many people, and im not very highlevel so im always travelling different places |
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| 14:40.59 | Kopokopolo | but also for people you enjoyed grouping with, but doesn't want to add to friend list for some reason |
| 14:40.59 | Mercster | dont run into the same ppl much |
| 14:41.04 | Mercster | ahh, nod |
| 14:41.12 | Mercster | yeah, that's smart |
| 14:41.13 | Kopokopolo | *don't |
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| 14:42.51 | Mercster | would it be kosher to post a screenshot and solicit opinions/advice on saving UI space? |
| 14:43.43 | Kopokopolo | considering we've been spamming the chat, valid or not, for since I came in, I don't see why not >.< |
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| 14:44.02 | Mercster | alright :P remember, this is 17" monitor, so if you think that text could get smaller, it probably couldnt |
| 14:44.08 | Mercster | http://quanta.homeip.net/merc-wow.jpg |
| 14:45.02 | Mercster | but as far as...i dunno, further consolidating info, re-arranging the screen, etc |
| 14:45.12 | Kopokopolo | I don't think that is particularily cluttered compared to some I've seen ;) |
| 14:46.04 | Mercster | well i tried to make it as uncluttered as possible. but you see there above chat window is the totem timers...which, in the case that someday im in a very large group, will run into group members' unitframes |
| 14:46.33 | Mercster | i think its pretty good, but ive only been messing with the UI for a small time, so expect ppl here will have seen/used more |
| 14:47.01 | Mercster | it's also worth pointing out im only level 30 and dont need room yet for all those raid frames people use |
| 14:47.05 | Kopokopolo | uninstalled wow a while ago, so I can't show you my previous ui, but it was pretty clean ;) |
| 14:47.12 | Mercster | basically just soloing with some instances |
| 14:47.38 | Mercster | Kopokopolo: hah...so you're here for your interest in the addon API |
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| 14:47.54 | Kopokopolo | yup |
| 14:48.03 | Mercster | Kopokopolo: how do you test your code without WoW..? |
| 14:48.41 | Kopokopolo | a sorry, I have it installed now, but I didn't for a while |
| 14:48.50 | Mercster | ah, k |
| 14:49.45 | Kopokopolo | my brother is actually the owner of the account, so I just play when he's inactive, sometimes ^^ |
| 14:49.58 | Kopokopolo | which is quite often, but not right now :( |
| 14:50.02 | Mercster | nod |
| 14:50.30 | thul | so, single button up coat or, double? |
| 14:51.45 | Mercster | :P |
| 14:52.16 | Repo | 10boss-tactics: 03sorontur * r20 / (3 files in 1 directory): BossTactics: |
| 14:52.19 | Repo | - 2.1 release |
| 14:52.22 | Kopokopolo | either that was some obscure reference, that I in my ignorance of English don't understand, or that was a subtle way of changing the subject >.< |
| 14:52.26 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pettigrow * r1116 GridLocale-frFR.lua: frFR Update |
| 14:52.36 | Mercster | Kopokopolo: i think he's making fun of me for getting opinions :) |
| 14:52.43 | Mercster | thats how i took it anyway |
| 14:53.05 | Mercster | but, i wouldnt have the interface i do now without help from a couple of friends of mine who pointed me to useful addons |
| 14:53.06 | Kopokopolo | ah ok |
| 14:53.18 | Mercster | and now that i think ive gone as far as i know how, thought id ask...well, this channels |
| 14:53.26 | Mercster | since there's a billion peopple here |
| 14:53.31 | Mercster | cant hurt |
| 14:53.36 | Kopokopolo | Mercster: just think about if you need it all on the screen at all times |
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| 14:54.06 | Mercster | Kopokopolo: well, that's impossible :P |
| 14:54.18 | Mercster | or, only possible if i move UI scale down so much that the fonts become unreadable |
| 14:54.21 | Kopokopolo | like, do you really need minimap on always? perhaps only when tracking/in group |
| 14:54.25 | Mercster | hmm |
| 14:54.26 | Mercster | point |
| 14:54.34 | Repo | 10boss-tactics: 03sorontur 04release 2.1 * r21 : Tagging as release 2.1 |
| 14:54.35 | Kopokopolo | perhaps pressing a key to see it might be better |
| 14:54.58 | Repo | 10boss-tactics: 03sorontur 04BossTactics 2.1 * r22 : Tagging as BossTactics 2.1 |
| 14:55.09 | Kopokopolo | do you need quest log always, or do you need to see it only when you complete a quest objective? |
| 14:55.13 | Kopokopolo | etc. |
| 14:56.17 | Repo | 10gem-helper: 03Pettigrow * r83 GemHelper_Localization.frFR.lua: frFR Update |
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| 14:57.10 | Kopokopolo | the best way of cleaning up an interface isn't making everything smaller/move it (although it can help), but showing only relevant information, when you need it, where you need it /rant |
| 14:57.21 | Mercster | Kopokopolo: the thing that seems most obtrusive to me is the chatbox. it's the one thing you want the most space for if possible, but it's gotta be opaque enough to read easily |
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| 14:57.44 | Mercster | but really, i think ive done pretty good |
| 14:57.58 | Kopokopolo | Mercster, yep, I actually have a gripe about the chatbox, even in the default blizz interface, think it's pretty bad interface design there on their part |
| 14:58.23 | Kopokopolo | though you can fade it when it hasn't been active for a while |
| 14:58.27 | Mercster | people have shown me screenshots tho, where they have 3 chatboxes all around on the edge of their screen, and they STILL have more playable space than i do :) people with huge monitors and huge resolutions |
| 14:58.43 | Mercster | one for guild, one for general, one for battle |
| 14:58.56 | Mercster | and my chatbox always feels cramped |
| 14:59.15 | Mercster | Kopokopolo: yeah...i use Prat to try to make it a bit better |
| 14:59.22 | Mercster | but essentially, a chat box is just gonna take up room |
| 14:59.34 | Mercster | unless you make it key activated, like a quake console or something |
| 14:59.39 | Mercster | but that's not really optimal |
| 15:00.49 | Kopokopolo | yup, and unless you make some sort of "scrolling combat text" with important things concerning you, and a button like you describe, there's really nothing you can do about, because blizzard designed the game like an overgrown chat channel >.< |
| 15:02.20 | Kopokopolo | but I have education in visual design and this sort of things interest me, so I probably notice it more than I should :/ |
| 15:03.48 | Kopokopolo | ah well </rant> |
| 15:04.04 | Lysithea | Shadowed my arenahistorian is showing me a record of 10:1 vs dk/pala when I know we've lost more than that, AH broken or me having a outdated version? |
| 15:10.06 | Kopokopolo | Mercster, http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4774/targetallyh8.jpg <--- my interface looked a bit like this before, chatwindows faded and could be minimized, and minimap could be toggled |
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| 15:11.04 | Lysithea | sorry, meant ssarena |
| 15:11.13 | Lysithea | no |
| 15:11.15 | Lysithea | fuck me |
| 15:11.20 | Lysithea | im dumb, arenahistorian |
| 15:11.22 | Bruners | no thanks |
| 15:12.41 | robotusch | http://mmad.dk/wow/WoWScrnShot_122508_020547.jpg simplicity ftw :D |
| 15:13.09 | robotusch | could probably do with some moving about though |
| 15:13.34 | Bruners | ui showdown ? |
| 15:13.43 | steev | bleh |
| 15:13.58 | Mercster | robotusch: yea, yours is similar to mine just some different placement. i tend to group the most obnoxious crap at the bottom (map, chat box) |
| 15:13.59 | steev | i get why they aren't adding the deflector/defender, but im still sad |
| 15:14.16 | Kopokopolo | haha, I play with almost vanilla now, and I'm not entirely unhappy, so no thanks ^^ |
| 15:14.17 | Mercster | robotusch: also i did away with blizzard's fancy borders on everything |
| 15:14.24 | Mercster | Kopokopolo: hooly...that's...weird ;) |
| 15:14.24 | Bruners | http://ui.ipwn.se/i/313.jpg /flex |
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| 15:14.42 | robotusch | yeah, I'll probably move the combat log over to bottom right, hide the right actionbar and lower the chat box |
| 15:14.47 | Mercster | http://quanta.homeip.net/merc-wow.jpg HOOAH |
| 15:15.01 | Mercster | robotusch: thats cool how you have the room to have seperate chat boxes |
| 15:15.03 | Mercster | i envy that |
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| 15:15.13 | robotusch | max resolution <3 |
| 15:15.23 | steev | Mercster: you can |
| 15:15.37 | winkiller | http://gallery.art-core.org/d/18581-1/Armagon_70_UI.jpg |
| 15:15.38 | steev | http://radonspace.de/uploads/images/interface18.jpg |
| 15:15.41 | Kopokopolo | seperate combat log is almost cheating ;p |
| 15:15.46 | steev | decent 1280x1024 ui |
| 15:15.49 | Mercster | steev: my monitor is 17"...ive made the text as small as i can, only room for one box |
| 15:15.53 | Kopokopolo | can see thinks like "<x> gains stealth" etc. |
| 15:16.01 | steev | Mercster: look at the ui i just posted |
| 15:16.07 | robotusch | well, it's kinda useful when trying to figure out when dying, so I know who to yell at :P |
| 15:16.32 | steev | robotusch: thats easy: the healers :-P |
| 15:16.33 | winkiller | uh that's densely packed |
| 15:16.37 | robotusch | heh |
| 15:16.46 | Mercster | steev: hmm...yeah...not bad...trying to figure out what id have to do to mine to approach that |
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| 15:16.55 | winkiller | but I like steev's the most |
| 15:16.57 | steev | Mercster: get used to only 1 bar |
| 15:17.04 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 15:17.04 | robotusch | I used to run with an awesome healer, but he respecced ret >_> |
| 15:17.06 | Kaelten | if you haven't seen the new xkcd you should |
| 15:17.08 | Mercster | steev: nod |
| 15:17.13 | winkiller | Kaelten: yep :P |
| 15:17.17 | steev | realize that you don't need every friggin spell at once :) |
| 15:17.21 | steev | took me a while to get |
| 15:17.27 | steev | but eventually i got it |
| 15:17.32 | steev | most stuff is hotkeyed anyway |
| 15:17.34 | Pneumatus | new xkcd today?! |
| 15:17.44 | Mercster | steev: heh...well, i dont put everything up there, but things that im not sure about yet (im learning), i like to keep up...for experimentation |
| 15:17.47 | steev | and when im on my healer, i use clique anyway so *shrug* |
| 15:17.47 | Bruners | Kaelten: morning |
| 15:18.03 | steev | Mercster: learning is fun (in WoW) |
| 15:18.04 | Mercster | i dont read stratics to find the only 4 or 5 spells i need to cast for my level...i like to kind of experiment |
| 15:18.07 | Mercster | yeah |
| 15:18.07 | Bruners | Kaelten: did you see my list of addons that bugs in CC? |
| 15:18.15 | Kopokopolo | must say I'm kinda amazed by steev cramming everything in there and still makes it look really nice ;) |
| 15:18.17 | quiescens | but what do you do if you suddenly need to cast mind soothe rank 2 half way through a fight! |
| 15:18.20 | Kopokopolo | *making |
| 15:18.21 | Mercster | so while i dont put up every spell, i dont limit it to the ones i *always* cast |
| 15:18.25 | Mercster | i alow for some variation |
| 15:18.29 | Repo | 10torta: 03Quezacolt * r24 / (4 files in 2 directories): Added Timers and Alerts window |
| 15:18.33 | Pneumatus | CC alpha7 is installing all optdeps regardless of externals preference, making it basically unusable :P |
| 15:18.34 | steev | Kopokopolo: rofl |
| 15:18.41 | Pneumatus | as you have to delete >9k addons every time you update |
| 15:18.46 | Mercster | steev: i did eliminate one bar (the one that had my totems) once i started using totem timers |
| 15:19.04 | Bruners | Pneumatus: not for all addons |
| 15:19.06 | steev | Mercster: i use yata - actually on the shaman yata appears down with the other bars |
| 15:19.09 | winkiller | steev: steev I don't have a single button except HS/pots that I click. and still I can't play if I don't have the stuff displayed |
| 15:19.21 | steev | since switching to ele i only need 4 buttons |
| 15:19.33 | Mercster | steev: i assume the buffs are in top right? |
| 15:19.40 | Mercster | what do you use to get them to crawl the screen edge |
| 15:19.42 | steev | attack, lightning, chain, thunderstorm or whatever |
| 15:19.51 | Pneumatus | well, unless your installing nolib it shouldn't be installing anything |
| 15:19.54 | steev | Mercster: its satrina buff something |
| 15:19.58 | Pneumatus | other than the selected addon |
| 15:20.05 | Pneumatus | and it definatly shouldnt be installing all optdeps |
| 15:20.13 | Mercster | steev: steev what font is that? |
| 15:20.15 | Mercster | pretty clear |
| 15:20.42 | steev | lemme double check but im pretty sure its just calibri in onefont |
| 15:20.45 | steev | or clearfont |
| 15:21.01 | Mercster | hmm, im using calibri, looks different. that or my clearfonts addon isnt working |
| 15:21.16 | Mercster | (you can see from my screen, not the same font) |
| 15:21.59 | Mercster | hmm, clearfont says im using calibri v1 |
| 15:22.42 | steev | >--{["name"]="Default (Calibri v1)", |
| 15:22.42 | steev | >-->--["normal"]>->--=fontLoc.."Calibri_v1\\Calibri1.ttf", |
| 15:22.42 | steev | >-->--["bold"]>>--=fontLoc.."Calibri_v1\\CalibriBold.ttf", |
| 15:22.42 | steev | >-->--["italic"]>->--=fontLoc.."Calibri_v1\\CalibriItalic.ttf", |
| 15:22.42 | steev | >-->--["bolditalic"]>=fontLoc.."Calibri_v1\\CalibriBoldItalic.ttf", |
| 15:22.44 | steev | >-->--["number"]>->--=fontLoc.."Calibri_v1\\CalibriBold.ttf"}, |
| 15:23.10 | Mercster | steev: doenst my font look way different? |
| 15:23.14 | Mercster | or is it just a size thing? |
| 15:23.32 | Mercster | nah, your font is different. your letters are much taller |
| 15:23.33 | Mercster | hrm |
| 15:23.34 | steev | mine does appear thicker |
| 15:23.40 | Mercster | bolder and taller |
| 15:23.42 | Mercster | and clearer |
| 15:24.54 | steev | lemme login and make sure im using calibri |
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| 15:25.38 | steev | assuming wine doesn't lock it up again |
| 15:25.42 | Mercster | heh |
| 15:25.46 | Mercster | i run WoW in wine too |
| 15:25.50 | Mercster | what version you use? |
| 15:25.50 | steev | otherwise ima have to copy the addons to my new box i'm putting together behind me |
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| 15:25.58 | steev | whatever is in ubuntu |
| 15:26.03 | Mercster | 1.0.9 or so |
| 15:26.16 | steev | i'm actually a gentoo dev, but at work they make us use ubuntu |
| 15:26.22 | steev | work, not gentoo :-P |
| 15:26.25 | Mercster | ahh, nod |
| 15:26.46 | steev | but this system im on isn't very good |
| 15:27.09 | Mercster | this is fedora, wine 1.1.9, nvidia 8600gts |
| 15:27.13 | Mercster | it does pretty good |
| 15:27.18 | Mercster | course im only running in 1280x1024 |
| 15:27.22 | Mercster | so that prolly helps |
| 15:27.23 | Kopokopolo | haha, gentoo still got the best "feel" of all the dists I've tried, but I just can't stand the wait :/ |
| 15:27.28 | thul | i just want a short, double breasted wool coat. |
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| 15:27.36 | Kopokopolo | sometimes you just need to get something done |
| 15:27.48 | steev | ahh, i am using Myraid Pro, sorry |
| 15:27.52 | steev | or myriad pro |
| 15:27.57 | Bruners | myriad ftw |
| 15:28.04 | steev | Bruners: indeed |
| 15:28.21 | steev | speaking of, i really should move my interface over to the other box |
| 15:28.23 | Mercster | ill admit that i dont think id ever run gentoo...i appreciate the idea, but i was running linux back when you had to compile pretty much everything anyway, or did if you wanted to stay anywhere recent |
| 15:28.29 | steev | just that im waiting on the pci-e card |
| 15:28.32 | Mercster | plus i did the whole 'make world' thing in freebsd for a long time |
| 15:28.38 | Mercster | these days i just want it to go |
| 15:28.39 | Pneumatus | fedora :o don't you get fed up with distupgrades every 6 months |
| 15:28.43 | Mercster | not worried about -O9 |
| 15:28.58 | Mercster | Pneumatus: not really. i seperate data from programs |
| 15:29.17 | Mercster | i often switch around anyway, vista to fedora to ubuntu back to vista, back to fedora |
| 15:29.18 | Kopokopolo | Mercster, indeed, the nice thing about gentoo is that developing always work ;) |
| 15:29.19 | Pneumatus | although you always used to be able to bodge a dist upgrade with yum |
| 15:29.21 | mitch0 | anyone happen to know how can I valing an <img> (html 4.01 strict) |
| 15:29.23 | mitch0 | ? |
| 15:29.25 | Mercster | based on how my butthairs are parted that month ;-) |
| 15:29.56 | Mercster | but ill tell you, i bet a lot of kids learn a lot running gentoo |
| 15:30.06 | steev | doubt it |
| 15:30.09 | Mercster | heh |
| 15:30.16 | Mercster | well, true, its supposedly all automated eh |
| 15:30.22 | steev | not quite |
| 15:30.33 | steev | but it does hold your hand a lot more now than in 1.4 |
| 15:30.40 | Mercster | not like ./configuring a bunch of disparate stuff and fixing broken source builds |
| 15:30.43 | Kopokopolo | Mercster, I did for one, but that was in the good old days of stage1 installs ;) |
| 15:30.43 | Mercster | nod |
| 15:31.05 | Mercster | well still, you'd prolly learn more in gentoo than the more friendly desktop-ready things (ununtu, fedora, etc) |
| 15:31.06 | steev | Kopokopolo: you can still do stage1 installs, there is even still documentation, they just don't offer support for it :) |
| 15:31.14 | Mercster | you'd be forced to think about some things |
| 15:31.17 | Kopokopolo | and the manual was too good almost - just read & follow, and you'll be fine |
| 15:31.19 | Mercster | Kopokopolo: hehe |
| 15:31.28 | steev | Mercster: im kinda pissed at ubuntu currently... passwd is broken for any user except my normal user |
| 15:31.29 | Mercster | yeah, before they had a bootstrap up that went beyond libc and gcc |
| 15:31.34 | Pneumatus | mitch0: with some css voodoo, you'd have to google it |
| 15:31.39 | many | yes, using --fomit-frame-pointer teaches a lot of things |
| 15:31.48 | quiescens | for me its just not worth the time and effort |
| 15:31.56 | Mercster | steev: i just trashed an ubuntu install...it's a nice system, but the more you use it, the more you realize the packages arent always put together carefully |
| 15:32.03 | quiescens | after you've done the compiling everything once upon a time and know how it works |
| 15:32.03 | Kopokopolo | steev, nice to hear, but I'm sticking with vista for now - bad luck with drivers on linux lately |
| 15:32.16 | Mercster | lots of stupid mistakes that dont happen in fedora, cuz there's more auditing going on |
| 15:32.20 | mitch0 | hohum |
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| 15:32.27 | Mercster | but, everyone has preferences |
| 15:32.30 | steev | yeah but davidz works for fedora so *shudder* |
| 15:32.32 | many | lets -O4, gentoo! |
| 15:32.34 | Mercster | and its certainly possible to get by well in ubuntu |
| 15:32.43 | Stanzilla | :D |
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| 15:32.56 | Mercster | oh, and im also tired of trying to keep up with dpkg/dselect/apt/apt-get/apt-blah/synaptic |
| 15:33.11 | Kopokopolo | many, of course, EVERY gentoo user knows what it does, why and how ;p |
| 15:33.13 | steev | so you prefer "PackageKit" |
| 15:33.15 | Mercster | it all works pretty well, but i can never rememeber the command for what i want to do |
| 15:33.18 | quiescens | you pick one and use it? |
| 15:33.20 | Mercster | no, i prefer rpm/yum |
| 15:33.24 | many | Kopokopolo: i highly DOUBT that. |
| 15:33.27 | Mercster | i can remember everythign rpm/yum does |
| 15:33.31 | Mercster | and there's only two of them |
| 15:33.49 | quiescens | apt-get is pretty much all you use |
| 15:33.49 | Mercster | but, ive been running redhat since 3.0.3 |
| 15:33.59 | steev | i started with redhat back in 98.... or tried to |
| 15:33.59 | quiescens | or a graphical variation thereof |
| 15:34.07 | many | if you cant figure synaptic, you should stick to setup.exe |
| 15:34.08 | Industrial | whispers archlinux |
| 15:34.11 | steev | re-tried again in 2000 |
| 15:34.17 | steev | hugs Industrial |
| 15:34.30 | many | hands industrial a teddy bear |
| 15:34.38 | Mercster | quiescens: well, a lot of times i wanted to do something different tho, and i was either looking for apt-cache or dpkg...i could never remember which tool was for querying packages, which tool was for quering repos, which tool was for listing files in a installed package, what tool was for listing files in a NOT installed package... |
| 15:34.44 | Mercster | i guess rpm/yum have some of the same distinctions |
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| 15:34.49 | steev | our sysadmin here uses Crux, and builds their install cds for them |
| 15:34.49 | Mercster | i just know it all by heart |
| 15:34.50 | Kopokopolo | many: yep, though I highly doubt the need know that, unless you're a compiler writer / c/c++ writer (performance freak) |
| 15:35.05 | many | Kopokopolo: BUT ITS ABOUT OPTIMIZING !!!!!111 |
| 15:35.07 | steev | a lot of Crux's tools are based off Gentoo's tools since they have a lot of similarities |
| 15:35.13 | many | (sorry. hehe.) |
| 15:35.25 | onaforeignshore | I hated gentoo's install system |
| 15:35.37 | steev | there's an install system? |
| 15:35.42 | Pneumatus | --funroll-loops |
| 15:35.45 | Pneumatus | gogo |
| 15:35.50 | many | yea pneu :) |
| 15:35.54 | Kopokopolo | many, lo, and people complain about lisp and haskell being "too slow", and then they go use python >.< |
| 15:36.06 | Mercster | i think ubuntu packaging tools are powerful and good, but there's not always very distinct lines drawn between functionality, or thats how it seemed. yum is _always_ for the repo. rpm is _always_ for whats installed |
| 15:36.17 | Mercster | whether you wanna list all packages, list files in a package, list dependencies, etc etc etc |
| 15:36.29 | Mercster | the lines of functionality are just clearer to me |
| 15:36.38 | Mercster | anyway thats not why i trashed ubuntu, it had other problems |
| 15:36.41 | many | Mercster: dpkg is for your locally installed packages, apt-cache is for digging in repositories, apt-get is for doing network stuff |
| 15:36.55 | Pneumatus | yum to rpm is what aptitude is to apt |
| 15:36.57 | steev | i still don't understand why people use -funroll-loops (note, its 1 - not 2) it makes the code larger and doesn't actually make it run faster 9 times out of 10 |
| 15:36.58 | many | dselect forget that it existed and if thats all too difficult for you use synaptic |
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| 15:37.09 | Mercster | Pneumatus: to me apt-get is like yum |
| 15:37.11 | Mercster | pretty much |
| 15:37.12 | Mercster | seemed to be |
| 15:37.14 | many | Pneumatus: actually yum~rpm = apt~dpkg |
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| 15:37.19 | Mercster | yeah |
| 15:37.44 | steev | writes apt-wowace |
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| 15:37.57 | Pneumatus | well, aptitude is just a sexy ncurses version of apt-get really :P |
| 15:38.09 | steev | for certain definitions of sexy |
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| 15:38.13 | many | dpkg handles packages and the installed versions thereof, the apt family is for easy network, well "access" |
| 15:38.23 | Kopokopolo | uses Vista |
| 15:38.39 | many | aptitude aimed to replace apt-get |
| 15:38.47 | quiescens | dpkg is rarely needed |
| 15:39.01 | Mercster | many: just seemed like every time i thot i had the right thing "dpkg --query" DOH, it wasnt. eh, its just what im used to |
| 15:39.05 | many | for an average user |
| 15:39.06 | Mercster | i mean, i guess rpm is the same thing |
| 15:39.16 | steev | wow we got massively sidetracked going from UI discussion->linux |
| 15:39.17 | many | Mercster: rpm -qlafvh! |
| 15:39.19 | Mercster | rpm -qa, rpm -qf, yum info, etc etc |
| 15:39.20 | Mercster | yeah |
| 15:39.20 | Industrial | I used dpkg once .. cause apt-get cant give lists of locally installed packages? |
| 15:39.21 | Mercster | :) |
| 15:39.24 | Mercster | i just know it |
| 15:39.25 | Mercster | *shrug* |
| 15:39.36 | many | Industrial: no, aptitude could, iirc |
| 15:39.41 | Industrial | pacman -Ql :> |
| 15:39.49 | Mercster | Industrial: yeah, i remember that was one reason to use it |
| 15:40.05 | steev | my favorite is the paludis package manager |
| 15:40.09 | Kopokopolo | thinks apt-exe would be nice to have on Vista, sometimes |
| 15:40.18 | Mercster | or rather, the dpkg --list or whatever it was was listed on a "move from redhat -> ubuntu" page |
| 15:40.23 | many | Kopokopolo: now thats a whole bunch of new can o worms |
| 15:40.25 | steev | the "--help" "screen" is ~6 pages at 1600x1200 |
| 15:40.26 | Mercster | vista is a decent OS |
| 15:40.33 | Mercster | it's even better with cygwin setup |
| 15:40.49 | many | Mercster: dpkg -l | grep ^ii => lists installed packages |
| 15:40.49 | Kopokopolo | many, haha, guess so |
| 15:41.01 | Funkeh` | What was that free VM software called |
| 15:41.02 | quiescens | unless you've broken something or need to do things like installing and keeping a specific version of a package |
| 15:41.02 | many | dpkg -L package => lists package content |
| 15:41.07 | many | Funkeh`: xen? |
| 15:41.10 | steev | Funkeh`: virtualbox? |
| 15:41.10 | Mercster | steev: did we figure out why your fonts rock so much harder than mine, but are named the same? |
| 15:41.12 | Funkeh` | A friend mentioned it earlier I can't remember the name |
| 15:41.19 | many | sun virtualbox |
| 15:41.19 | quiescens | you pretty much make do with apt-get |
| 15:41.19 | Funkeh` | (want to test w7) |
| 15:41.23 | steev | vmware-server |
| 15:41.24 | Mercster | many: rpm -qa :) |
| 15:41.42 | Kopokopolo | Mercster: basically, no os i've tried (admittedly only windows, linux and bsd) is particularily awe-inspiring |
| 15:41.47 | many | Mercster: i used rpm a whole while ago, but found the debian way less confusing |
| 15:41.55 | Mercster | Kopokopolo: yeah, they all fail spectacularly at some point |
| 15:41.58 | quiescens | just because dpkg-* is like 15 different things doesn't mean you have to use them yourself |
| 15:41.59 | Mercster | Kopokopolo: gotta speak relatively |
| 15:42.02 | many | but that were the times pre-yum |
| 15:42.03 | quiescens | lol |
| 15:42.19 | Kopokopolo | as long as it gets out of the way and lets me do my job, I'm happy |
| 15:42.21 | Mercster | many *shrug* rpm does everything local, yum does everything repo |
| 15:42.29 | onaforeignshore | it's nice if you have windows 32-bit cause you can run linux as a service and use cygwin to open a session to the linux box |
| 15:42.36 | Mercster | both have querying and install commands, but relate to either local box/filesystem or repo |
| 15:42.39 | Kopokopolo | Mercster, yeah, unfortunetly :/ |
| 15:42.40 | onaforeignshore | doesn't work on 64-bit yet though :( |
| 15:42.40 | many | Mercster: err, yum didnt exist back then, i was trying to say |
| 15:42.49 | Mercster | also yum can do some local stuff too, like 'yum remove' |
| 15:42.55 | Mercster | many: nod |
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| 15:43.04 | many | apt-get -P remove? :-) |
| 15:43.11 | many | ah |
| 15:43.19 | many | dpkg doesnt handle dependencies itself |
| 15:43.41 | many | dpkg -P package wouldnt be executed if dependencies are still installed, while apt-get remove would do |
| 15:43.48 | Mercster | the ubuntu tools seem faster, and i think one of the reasons is that they do package-based dependencies |
| 15:43.53 | many | + deinstall dependencies |
| 15:44.00 | quiescens | I never quite liked doing dependancies without the networked side |
| 15:44.05 | Mercster | whereas rpm / yum do file-based dependencies |
| 15:44.32 | Mercster | quiescens: heh, back in the day it was vi INSTALL and find the other tarballs you need ;-) |
| 15:44.41 | Mercster | yum and apt-get are both very cool |
| 15:44.42 | many | Mercster: rpm has a far more widespread use though, and packaged based dependencies would do a lot fo harm |
| 15:44.49 | Mercster | many: right |
| 15:45.10 | Mercster | yum has sped up a lot in the last year or so, tho |
| 15:45.11 | many | package dependencies are still smarter. hehe :-) |
| 15:45.13 | Mercster | it used to be agonizing |
| 15:45.25 | quiescens | well, as I said earlier, after you've done the manually compile and install thing enough to understand it, its not worth the effort to keep doing it that way for the most part |
| 15:45.37 | many | so right. |
| 15:45.48 | many | i wouldnt understand companies running WHOLE FARMS of gentoo boxens |
| 15:45.51 | Mercster | many: yeah, as distributions get more centralized and people start using all the same software, package-level deps are enough. but rpm was written in a day when that wasnt nearly the case |
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| 15:45.55 | Mercster | many: do any? |
| 15:45.58 | Mercster | cant imagine any would |
| 15:46.09 | many | yes, quite a lot. |
| 15:46.14 | Mercster | i mean besides, silly ones |
| 15:46.20 | Mercster | silly companies |
| 15:46.20 | many | hehe |
| 15:46.27 | Mercster | ones soon to tank |
| 15:46.42 | Mercster | i aint trashing gentoo at all, i just dont see it as the enterprise choice |
| 15:46.57 | Mercster | id fire someone for putting a gentoo box into production |
| 15:47.12 | many | i dont bash gentooists nowadays, but i wont use it. rather archlinux then. :-P |
| 15:47.40 | Bruners | what is so great with arch ? |
| 15:47.56 | Mercster | oh ill make the odd -O999 joke, but really, in the first 5 or so years i used linux, i was just as obsessed with optimization and building my own software |
| 15:48.27 | Mercster | there was a period for awhile where the kids like me who learned linux as teens in their bedrooms (thus having no real world computer science experience) were very distrustful of binary packages |
| 15:48.50 | Kopokopolo | many: though if you use farms, they are usually of the same type. You could farm-compile once, then distribute as a package |
| 15:48.56 | Mercster | binary packages on my system?! OHHH NO, im gonna do it all myself |
| 15:49.31 | Mercster | so i dont blame gentoo users...i just think they have different interests than i do. i dont care anymore about building crap. if someone wants me to build things by hand, i better be paid ;-) |
| 15:49.35 | Kopokopolo | Mercster, lol, too true |
| 15:50.06 | Mercster | nowadays im like "give me the RPM, and that RPM better include a GUI with big colorful buttons that i can click on" |
| 15:50.11 | Mercster | cuz i dont wanna type *nuthin* |
| 15:50.18 | Mercster | and dont tell me to edit a configuration file |
| 15:50.22 | Mercster | CLICKY CLICKY |
| 15:50.34 | Kopokopolo | too hard to find those kind of (good) interfaces though :/ |
| 15:50.37 | quiescens | mm, still prefer configuration files |
| 15:50.40 | Funkeh` | VirtulBox looks good, tried it before? |
| 15:50.56 | Mercster | quiescens: funny thing about it, the GUIs are just writing the conf files for you :) |
| 15:50.57 | Kopokopolo | bad click interface is far worse than a good typy one |
| 15:51.04 | Mercster | now if the gui sucks, that sucks, but |
| 15:51.07 | Olison | Funkeh`: I did, works pretty well |
| 15:51.11 | Mercster | many guis do the right thing |
| 15:51.22 | Mercster | just depends on what yer doing |
| 15:51.38 | Mercster | browsing the web, looking at porn, and writing email (grandma for existence), the GUI is gonna be fine |
| 15:51.39 | Kopokopolo | perhaps I'm just always doing what I'm not supposed to? |
| 15:52.17 | Kopokopolo | thinks he would be an excellent tester, always abusing software |
| 15:52.34 | Mercster | hehe |
| 15:52.37 | pentium166 | except for in the case of irc clients |
| 15:52.38 | [Ammo] | Funkeh`: virtualbox is awesome |
| 15:52.45 | Mercster | i worked as a software tester once, for the Learning Company |
| 15:52.51 | Mercster | it was pretty cool |
| 15:52.59 | Funkeh` | ok gonna try that then =p thanks |
| 15:53.07 | Kopokopolo | Automated test suites ftw ^^ |
| 15:53.08 | many | virtualbox is funkeh. |
| 15:53.22 | many | but sun bought it :( |
| 15:53.24 | Funkeh` | -.- |
| 15:53.37 | Mercster | pentium166: i used xchat for years, but a few weeks ago i got a whim and decided to figure out irssi, so no matter what box i went to or how many times i reinstaled, i never had to configure irc again |
| 15:53.39 | Funkeh` | Not so bothered about that, using sun products |
| 15:53.43 | Kopokopolo | but then someone has to write them >.< |
| 15:53.43 | many | eek |
| 15:53.44 | Mercster | tar -czf irssi.tgz .irssi |
| 15:53.46 | Mercster | done |
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| 15:53.51 | Mercster | irs never changes |
| 15:53.54 | Mercster | s/irs/irc |
| 15:54.23 | Mercster | and its pretty nice |
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| 15:54.49 | Kopokopolo | but still, I find it silly that I can't - even with properly identified music, say like "play the songs that topped the lists in Europe 2006" |
| 15:55.42 | Kopokopolo | unless I manually place everything in playlists and uses dynamic ones on those. I mean, all the information is right on the internet, in neat databases, for free use :/ |
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| 15:56.44 | many | Kopokopolo: ask napster. |
| 15:56.45 | pentium166 | i tried cygwin but the screen port was pretty bad back then |
| 15:57.49 | Kopokopolo | meh, free is a requirement, will stick to spotify if I'm not allowed to own the music |
| 15:57.58 | Mercster | yeah i was gonna say, i bet itunes could tell you that |
| 15:58.01 | Mercster | even tho ive never used it |
| 15:58.03 | many | Kopokopolo: free as in stolen? :-) |
| 15:58.10 | Mercster | remember, the network is the computer |
| 15:58.14 | Mercster | the computer is the network |
| 15:58.22 | Mercster | all that crud |
| 15:58.23 | Kopokopolo | many: free as in "free to do what I want", like placing it on my mp3 :/ |
| 15:58.40 | Kopokopolo | and spotify is legal |
| 15:59.03 | many | errah |
| 15:59.21 | many | well, WMA10 handles DRM on wearable devices. |
| 15:59.22 | Mercster | Kopokopolo: did you hear, itunes is doing away with DRM |
| 15:59.47 | Kopokopolo | that's good to hear ^ |
| 15:59.51 | many | Mercster: Yes, and you pay 30c to get your already paid iTUNES w/o drm |
| 15:59.53 | Mercster | in place of DRM they're gonna charge slightly more for newer "hits", and slightly less for older songs |
| 15:59.55 | many | 30c per piece |
| 16:00.26 | Mercster | many: i dunno how it works, i collect music by whatever source i deem necessary, as long as ive paid for that music at least once |
| 16:00.46 | many | Mercster: i do the opposite, i dont buy music, i rent it. |
| 16:00.47 | Mercster | most of my library is 70s classic rock and 90s gangster rap |
| 16:00.57 | Mercster | many: i have a friend that does that, he loves it |
| 16:01.14 | Mercster | many: he uses a creative zen with some paid service |
| 16:01.20 | many | for that i have access to all music i want, the charge for a month is well a bought cd worth |
| 16:01.27 | Mercster | its some small amount a month for all the crap he can listen to |
| 16:01.29 | Mercster | yeah |
| 16:01.37 | Mercster | i dunno, ive owned my own mp3s for so long :/ |
| 16:01.42 | Mercster | itd be weird to switch |
| 16:01.46 | Mercster | but it IS a valid system |
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| 16:01.55 | Kopokopolo | many, sounds a bit like what spotify is, but allowing use on drm mp3 players? |
| 16:02.01 | many | i have paid mp3s, but all the stuff troubles me. |
| 16:02.10 | Kopokopolo | spotify is computer only :/ |
| 16:02.19 | many | Kopokopolo: w/ WMA10, yes. |
| 16:02.34 | many | and you pay a slightly higher fee than computer-only |
| 16:03.34 | many | but with musicstores recently dropping drm so much you'd wonder wether napster drops it too |
| 16:04.18 | many | i'd be a happy camper buying a FUCKING LARGE mp3 portable :-P |
| 16:04.28 | Kopokopolo | we'll see, they probably only lose money with DRM, pirates finds a way to remove it soon enough anyay, and distribute freely (albeit illegally, of course) |
| 16:06.56 | Kopokopolo | http://freesologuitar.com/mps/DonAlder_DRDR.mp3 <--- definetly not my type of music, but kinda makes me want to take up the guitar again >_> |
| 16:07.14 | Repo | 10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander * r149 / (2 files in 2 directories): MiniPet: |
| 16:07.16 | Repo | - Fix for ticket 9: remind when leaving flight forms |
| 16:07.17 | Funkeh` | um |
| 16:07.19 | Repo | - Implemented ticket 6: Added option to auto-dismiss when stealthed |
| 16:07.25 | Funkeh` | I like how before installing the windows 7 beta |
| 16:07.36 | Funkeh` | the first thing it recommends is "backup your mp3 files" |
| 16:07.42 | Funkeh` | not just "your files" |
| 16:07.46 | Stanzilla | because |
| 16:07.48 | *** join/#wowace sylvanaar (n=sylvanaa@unaffiliated/sylvanaar) |
| 16:07.49 | Stanzilla | there was a known bug |
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| 16:07.51 | Stanzilla | with mp3s |
| 16:07.55 | Megalon | because it fucks up mp3s |
| 16:07.55 | Stanzilla | that was fixed with a patch |
| 16:08.02 | Stanzilla | you should install right after the initial setup |
| 16:08.12 | Funkeh` | does it affect the 7k new build? |
| 16:08.16 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 16:08.18 | Stanzilla | http://arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft.ars/2009/01/09/microsoft-releases-fix-for-windows-7-mp3-corruption-issue |
| 16:08.21 | Stanzilla | read this |
| 16:08.32 | Funkeh` | it doesn't matter since I will be VMing it |
| 16:08.35 | SunTsu | "Incanter's Absorption now has an additional effect: Total spell damage increase cannot exceed 5% of your health." - I really wonder what made them change it</sarcasm> |
| 16:08.45 | Stanzilla | ah, mkay |
| 16:10.21 | pentium166 | is that the thing mages were stealing to dps the shit out of anub'arak? |
| 16:11.35 | SunTsu | pentium166: It is what made a mage do 414k fireballs in Naxx25, soloing military quarter |
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| 16:11.35 | pentium166 | oh. i am guessing they are not the same then! |
| 16:11.59 | Repo | 10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander * r150 / (2 files in 2 directories): MiniPet: |
| 16:12.01 | many | i smell sarcasm |
| 16:12.02 | Repo | - Added chat command to dismiss the current companion |
| 16:12.07 | SunTsu | pentium166: The mage did spellsteal Bone armor, absorbed massive damage, by that sky rocketed his spell damage and bursted away |
| 16:14.03 | pentium166 | and here i was getting excited about possibly getting a 400 dps increase from using a white weapon in the offhand |
| 16:14.03 | viisual | Then they hotfixed the bone shield spell stealing and mages around the world died. /smile |
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| 16:24.02 | Nizomi | is it possible to call functions and change variables from other addonsß |
| 16:24.05 | Nizomi | *of other addons |
| 16:24.13 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 16:24.22 | quiescens | depends |
| 16:25.13 | Nizomi | depends on what? |
| 16:25.39 | sylvanaar | if the variable is visible at your scope (or you have access to the debug library) |
| 16:26.14 | Nizomi | so i guess i can make it visible if it isn't |
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| 16:26.48 | Arrowmaster | you could but more than likely youll break things |
| 16:26.56 | sylvanaar | can you /print it? |
| 16:27.02 | sylvanaar | if so, you can change it |
| 16:27.07 | sylvanaar | there |
| 16:27.27 | Nizomi | can i retrieve the names of all visible varsß |
| 16:27.29 | Nizomi | *? |
| 16:28.06 | sylvanaar | of what |
| 16:29.23 | Kopokoporoko|afk | I'm assuming he means something like pyhton's dir(). and now I'm really gone (out of the house) :p |
| 16:30.07 | sylvanaar | everything? i think theres a dump on wowwiki |
| 16:32.24 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r133 Coconuts.lua: Coconuts: |
| 16:32.27 | Repo | - Finish up chat commands to summon mounts |
| 16:32.44 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r186 modules/ChatLink.lua: touched by a troll (1) |
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| 16:37.47 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar 04RC12 * r187 : Touched by a troll (2) |
| 16:37.53 | Repo | 10xperl: 03Zeksie * r257 / (7 files in 6 directories): |
| 16:37.55 | Repo | XPerl: Re-activated the buff exceptions code after some fiddling to make it work better (by spell name instead of icon). |
| 16:40.27 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1345 RecipeDB/ARL-Blacksmith.lua: Fix error with BS, tehehe typo? |
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| 16:48.57 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar 043.0.0 * r188 : Tagging as 3.0.0, not sure why. |
| 16:50.02 | quiescens | o.o |
| 16:52.54 | Repo | 10grid-status-threat: 03kunda * r45 GridStatusThreat.lua: fix: classcol (GridStatus:UnitColor) needs GUID now |
| 16:55.42 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1346 / (6 files in 2 directories): |
| 16:55.45 | Repo | Remove some duplicate entries for mobs (due to phasing), cleaned up a JC pattern. |
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| 17:13.12 | Arrowmaster | guess i better head out early and get the snow off my car |
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| 17:16.31 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r189 services/chatsections.lua: drycoded fix for my messed up filter function call |
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| 17:23.18 | Repo | 10sell-o-matic: 03Silmano 041.1.07 * f53b917 /: [new tag, +1 commits] |
| 17:23.21 | Repo | - Removed "-" from character filter, now you can add Honey-Spiced Lichen to the sell list! |
| 17:23.23 | Repo | - Fixed command line actions not working well. |
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| 17:24.40 | Repo | 10shamanwarning: 03Silmano 041.1.07 * 21e71c6 /: [new tag, +1 commits] |
| 17:24.42 | Repo | - Fixed Oath warning firing even if it was unchecked. |
| 17:27.46 | Wraithan1 | What do y'all use for diffing on windows? |
| 17:27.48 | Wraithan1 | windiff? |
| 17:28.45 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03sylvanaar * r19 LibFail-1.0.lua: don't fail pets at frogger |
| 17:29.38 | Mikk | svn |
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| 17:30.16 | sylvanaar | svn or beyondcompare |
| 17:33.19 | Wraithan1 | ugh, changed ShockAndAwe and I can't figure out what I did that broke it lol |
| 17:33.35 | Wraithan1 | diffing it shows I added stuff in the exact same syntax |
| 17:33.52 | Wraithan1 | and what is breaking shouldn't even be related to what I am doing |
| 17:34.21 | amoeba | That's why it's called a bug and not a puppy. |
| 17:34.55 | sylvanaar | caps? |
| 17:35.43 | Wraithan1 | Even that appears to be the same |
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| 17:37.17 | sylvanaar | dunno, have no idea what you did |
| 17:37.48 | Kopokopolo_ | is there lua documentation generator and/or what's the documentation standard for lua files? |
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| 17:39.50 | sylvanaar | there are very few standards |
| 17:40.33 | Kopokopolo_ | hmm, can doxygen handle lua comments? |
| 17:40.38 | CrazyBenny | theres luadoc |
| 17:40.43 | Kopokopolo_ | should be kinda trivial to add otherwise.... |
| 17:40.49 | Kopokopolo_ | CrazyBenny, will look at it |
| 17:42.30 | Kopokopolo_ | (and actually, scratch that, considering doxygen automatically documents members, it would have to be a full-blown parser) |
| 17:42.44 | sylvanaar | they have the .docmeta thing on wowace/curseforge |
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| 17:42.55 | Repo | 10calendar_broker: 03LordFarlander * r12 / (2 files in 1 directory): Calendar_Broker: |
| 17:42.57 | Repo | - Use more constants |
| 17:43.00 | Repo | - Move detection of Darkmoon Faire to properly catch instances in the middle |
| 17:43.03 | Repo | - Rename global constant |
| 17:43.39 | ckknight | @ticket curseforge 1039 <-- fixed, AckisWork |
| 17:43.40 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1039 - Provide a list of user names who contributed to the translations via the localization application. Reported by: Ackis. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 67 seconds ago. Component: Localization. Status: Fixed. Priority: Medium. Assignee: ckknight. Votes: 0. Comments: 0 |
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| 17:43.57 | AckisWork | ckknight: ty |
| 17:44.03 | Repo | 10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r51 / (3 files in 2 directories): Broker_RecZone: |
| 17:44.05 | Repo | - Use DUNGEON_DIFFICULTYx constants from WoW for the difficulty names |
| 17:44.08 | Repo | - Globalized the zone type constants and gave them more distinct prefix |
| 17:44.10 | Kopokopolo_ | sylvanaar: that's like a seperate file with documumentation? |
| 17:44.27 | Kopokopolo_ | *documentation |
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| 17:44.43 | Kopokopolo_ | CrazyBenny: seems to be what I was looking for thanks |
| 17:45.21 | AckisWork | @project arl |
| 17:45.23 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Zhinjio (Author), Elkano (Author), Jim-Bim (Author). Updated: 47 minutes ago. Tickets: 8/313 |
| 17:45.28 | Kopokopolo_ | s/for thanks/for, thanks |
| 17:45.38 | Kopokopolo_ | must be glitches in my keyboard ;) |
| 17:46.15 | ckknight | a bad worker blames his tools, Kopokopolo_ |
| 17:46.36 | EthanCentaurai | blames his sister |
| 17:46.58 | AckisWork | ckknight: that translators thing is pretty win |
| 17:46.59 | Kopokopolo_ | ckknight: and half of the time, they are probably partly to blame :p |
| 17:47.06 | AckisWork | http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/localization/translators/ |
| 17:47.12 | ckknight | AckisWork: I figure it provides the needed data |
| 17:47.17 | ckknight | I'll make it look a bit better later |
| 17:47.22 | AckisWork | yah it does |
| 17:47.32 | AckisWork | functionality > pretty |
| 17:47.43 | Kopokopolo_ | but yeah, this time I'll admit that the "glitches" is in my head and fingers |
| 17:48.03 | ckknight | it's just for each language, show all translators, for each translator, show the number of translations and the percent out of the total phrases |
| 17:48.13 | ckknight | so if only 50% is translated, it'll only show 50%, not 100% |
| 17:48.15 | ckknight | which, imo, is better |
| 17:48.38 | Wraithan1 | http://drop.io/wraithan/asset/shockandawe-zip <- anyone with a shaman willing to load that up and help me find what I borked? |
| 17:49.55 | Wraithan1 | The only thing I haven't done is update the rest of the locals with the stuff I added, I only updated enUS |
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| 17:56.58 | Repo | 10hellbender-dkp: 03Celess * r59 / (2 files in 1 directory): - fixing package issue |
| 17:57.36 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r134 locales/localization.lua: - adding four horsemen as event |
| 17:58.13 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r135 RaidTracker.toc: Tagging as 2.2.6 |
| 17:58.44 | Repo | 10hellbender-dkp: 03Celess 04v2.0.3 * r60 : Tagging as 2.0.3 |
| 17:59.08 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.2.6 * r136 : Tagging as 2.2.6 |
| 17:59.23 | Wraithan1 | http://pastie.org/356728 <- there is the diff from standard shockandawe |
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| 18:03.21 | Kopokopolo_ | does something like this work as intended (*locally* change value to default if not passed), and if not, what's a relative sane way of doing default parameters? http://www.wowace.com/paste/111/ |
| 18:04.27 | Kopokopolo_ | optionalValueN is kinda ugly, and tables seems like overkill sometimes. what's the "correct" lua way? |
| 18:04.32 | quiescens | possibly, but |
| 18:06.12 | ckknight | Kopokopolo_: either how you did it or with ... |
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| 18:06.25 | ckknight | Kopokopolo_: I tend to do if not thing then thing = blah end |
| 18:06.25 | quiescens | um, technically you should explicitly compare with nil instead? |
| 18:06.38 | ckknight | depends, quiescens |
| 18:06.39 | quiescens | well, in some cases anyway |
| 18:06.45 | ckknight | but x == nil is far slower than not x |
| 18:07.07 | quiescens | if you the parameter in question could potentially be the boolean false for example then you would have to do the explicit nil compare |
| 18:07.17 | ckknight | as I said, it depends |
| 18:07.32 | ckknight | if you distinguish nil and false, then explicitly check |
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| 18:07.37 | ckknight | otherwise stick to not x |
| 18:07.38 | ArrowmasterClass | rofl, so first class and my teacher goes 'there will be some things we will cover that you may already know, and if you are an overachiever like him' and points to me 'feel free to play around and surf the internet' |
| 18:07.49 | ckknight | lol |
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| 18:08.00 | ckknight | my_arrowmaster = ArrowmasterClass.new |
| 18:08.01 | Kopokopolo_ | ckknight, thanks, that explains it |
| 18:08.10 | Kopokopolo_ | Arrowmaster, lol |
| 18:08.55 | steev | mmm this thread is getting sad |
| 18:09.28 | ckknight | ? |
| 18:09.31 | steev | "DK Tanking weapons are bad, they pigeon hole us into using only 1 or 2 weapons - DPS weapons are better" "DPS Weapons are bad, they pidgeon hole us into using 1 or 2 different weapons" |
| 18:10.02 | steev | thread in the wow tanking forums about not putting in the Deflector/Defender |
| 18:10.09 | ckknight | ArrowmasterClass: whenever I went to school, I tended to inject myself in my teacher's talks |
| 18:10.12 | ckknight | it's more fun that way |
| 18:10.27 | ArrowmasterClass | my teacher is hated by the school IT department |
| 18:10.32 | ckknight | steev: lousy pidgeons |
| 18:10.49 | ArrowmasterClass | because they can never figure out how he breaks their stuff |
| 18:10.49 | ckknight | how come, ArrowmasterClass? |
| 18:10.56 | ckknight | ah |
| 18:10.57 | ckknight | lol |
| 18:11.01 | steev | ckknight: srsly |
| 18:11.06 | ArrowmasterClass | mostly the security stuff |
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| 18:16.02 | steev | ckknight: i was looking forward to the Deflector for one reason and one reason only. To have a weapon that didn't look like complete shit. |
| 18:17.18 | ckknight | good times |
| 18:17.28 | ckknight | so you know, I don't really play WoW |
| 18:18.35 | NeoTron | so when you do 3 drake sartharion, is the goal to get down Tenebron before the 2nd drake lands or before the 3rd? |
| 18:18.43 | ArrowmasterClass | 3rd |
| 18:18.44 | Xinhuan | 3rd |
| 18:19.05 | NeoTron | that's approximately what we did in our 2-drake kill |
| 18:19.13 | NeoTron | I assume it would be highly benefitial not to get two drake portals |
| 18:19.23 | Xinhuan | actually quite different |
| 18:19.28 | Xinhuan | 2 drake strat is quite different |
| 18:20.22 | NeoTron | 2 drake was almost trivial |
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| 18:20.45 | steev | so you down sarth and then the adds, or you down the adds then sarth after you've engaged? |
| 18:20.54 | NeoTron | but the strategy we used was basically 3 drake minus one drake |
| 18:21.12 | Xinhuan | in 3 drakes, you generally want to do this: 1st > adds > 2nd > adds > enter portal > 3rd > adds > enter portal > boss |
| 18:21.34 | Xinhuan | in 2 drakes, the "2nd" drake doesn't exist |
| 18:21.39 | steev | ahh okay - i never attempted it (probably be quite a while before we do) |
| 18:21.40 | Xinhuan | only the 1st and 3rd does |
| 18:21.55 | NeoTron | right |
| 18:22.06 | steev | but i figured you had to down the boss and then the drakes |
| 18:22.11 | Xinhuan | that's why 2-drakes is trivial |
| 18:22.25 | NeoTron | I understand but there's no real major differences in strategy |
| 18:22.32 | NeoTron | obviously shadron adds a lot of difficultyu |
| 18:22.35 | Xinhuan | there is a big difference |
| 18:22.48 | Xinhuan | you need 4 tanks in 3-drakes |
| 18:22.54 | Xinhuan | because 2 drakes are up at a time |
| 18:23.00 | Xinhuan | but you only need 3 tanks in 2-drakes |
| 18:23.02 | NeoTron | you actually don't |
| 18:23.04 | Xinhuan | because there is no drake overlap |
| 18:23.06 | NeoTron | the video I saw used 3 |
| 18:23.18 | NeoTron | the person taking the least damage by far was the drake tank |
| 18:23.22 | Xinhuan | yes but their dps output is stacked to the point 1st drake dies before 2nd lands |
| 18:23.32 | NeoTron | not saying 4 isn't better, but it's not needed |
| 18:23.33 | Xinhuan | i'll bet unless you stack 4 hunters and 4 locks, you don't have that kind of dps |
| 18:23.48 | quiescens | stack 4 xinhuans |
| 18:24.01 | Xinhuan | in most likelyhood, your 1st drake will be on 20% when 2nd drake lands |
| 18:24.08 | Xinhuan | and your 2nd drake will be around 50% when 3rd lands |
| 18:24.16 | Xinhuan | that's why you need 4 tanks |
| 18:25.48 | Xinhuan | i'm not saying 3 tanks is impossible, because it is, its just not practical for *most* guilds ;p |
| 18:25.49 | Megalon | mhm, we always do it with 3 tanks |
| 18:26.12 | Xinhuan | you can alawys have the tank drag the drake around |
| 18:26.17 | durcyn | 3 tanks is fine if your blaze tank is on the ball, that's usually a bigger problem than drakes |
| 18:26.31 | Xinhuan | yes it has to do with the random chance the drake can breathe on the raid |
| 18:26.50 | durcyn | and honestly, if you need more than one drake tank, then your positioning is bad |
| 18:26.56 | Megalon | but on our firstkill, first drake was at 15% when #2 landed |
| 18:27.02 | thul | i just cant decide on spec for my dk, tempted to do the blood/gargoyle-thing |
| 18:27.07 | Megalon | and last week, we had 5seconds sparetime :x |
| 18:27.24 | Megalon | it gets so much easier |
| 18:27.30 | Megalon | when you are just a few seconds faster |
| 18:28.14 | steev | thul: i had a fun (read: less dps) spec that allowed for having bloodworms, gargoyle, ghoul and both unholy and blood auras |
| 18:29.13 | thul | we., i don't want bloodworms :-P |
| 18:29.21 | steev | yes you do! |
| 18:29.24 | thul | hehe, noooo |
| 18:29.36 | steev | YES! |
| 18:29.37 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: one tank can tank two drakes |
| 18:29.43 | Xinhuan | definitely |
| 18:29.44 | thul | not worth it :-P |
| 18:29.47 | Xinhuan | but there's risks involved |
| 18:29.48 | steev | totally worth it |
| 18:29.57 | steev | specially in naxx when they just run off and aggro shit |
| 18:30.04 | NeoTron | blaze tanking is rather challenging (that's what I do) |
| 18:30.17 | NeoTron | I am likely going to use 4 tanks however |
| 18:30.20 | Xinhuan | again i'm saying its not impossible, i'm just saying there are risks involved |
| 18:30.27 | thul | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Argent+Dawn&n=Nyxos < mpt geared enough for nax yet :-P |
| 18:30.27 | NeoTron | because even in 2 drake, 4 tanks is nice to have |
| 18:30.29 | Xinhuan | and you have to weight the best options for you raid |
| 18:30.51 | NeoTron | I don't know if we quite have the gear for 3 drake yet given that we only recently started with 25-man raiding |
| 18:30.57 | Xinhuan | for eg, if your tank isn't very geared, 4 tanks is probably better, or if your healers are weaker |
| 18:31.18 | Xinhuan | a decked out tank can easily take 2 drakes, but a newer one probably will be riskier |
| 18:31.26 | Xinhuan | experience level too |
| 18:31.29 | NeoTron | me and the warrior sit around 38.7k health, the druid tank is somewhere over 40k |
| 18:31.37 | steev | thul: do your sons of hodir dailies :-P |
| 18:31.46 | thul | steev: hehe, working on it.. |
| 18:31.49 | NeoTron | for 2 drakes I was on little adds, warrior on sartharion and druid on drakes |
| 18:31.52 | thul | or, working on ebon hold now |
| 18:31.57 | steev | thul: don't feel bad, i do em once a week or so |
| 18:32.22 | Xinhuan | there isn't really any right or wrong |
| 18:32.32 | Megalon | l2everfrostchip :o |
| 18:32.34 | NeoTron | I know that 70k breath will be.. interesting |
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| 18:32.44 | Xinhuan | my guild doesn't have holy priests (lol), so we had issues with not having guardian spirits to work around |
| 18:32.53 | NeoTron | we have two |
| 18:33.06 | NeoTron | or rather right now we have one holy, one disc but for obvious reasons will have two holy for this |
| 18:33.32 | NeoTron | seems that DK's (unholy especially) has the best mitigation possibilities for that stuff |
| 18:33.43 | NeoTron | warriors basically only have shield wall/ |
| 18:33.56 | steev | Megalon: if i could ever friggin find some |
| 18:34.16 | Xinhuan | i'm going to put it out that of the 5 alliance guilds that has killed it on my server, 3 uses druids to MT sarth, and 2 uses DKs |
| 18:34.16 | steev | Megalon: i've found one - and now its annoying because the guy to turn em in to is the repair guy so its an extra click to repair |
| 18:34.20 | selckin | pain supression is just as good |
| 18:34.23 | Megalon | steev: Routes + gathermate treasure :D |
| 18:34.28 | Dashkal | huh, I had missed that daily (the chip) wish I had known, I could have exalted last night |
| 18:34.42 | Xinhuan | there's no "right answer" it depends on gear level |
| 18:34.44 | steev | Dashkal: its just a random pick |
| 18:34.48 | Xinhuan | and raid setup |
| 18:34.48 | steev | on the ground |
| 18:35.00 | Dashkal | I had no idea to even look for them. Never noticed them light up under the cursor |
| 18:35.03 | steev | like the netherwing eggs or whatever |
| 18:35.05 | NeoTron | selckin: good point |
| 18:35.15 | Dashkal | oh well, exalted now |
| 18:35.19 | Dashkal | really doesn't matter |
| 18:35.22 | NeoTron | I forgot about that because our previous disc priest never used it, ever |
| 18:35.22 | steev | grats on that |
| 18:35.27 | Megalon | the chip is no daily |
| 18:35.31 | selckin | bad priest is bad! |
| 18:35.32 | Xinhuan | because we have no holy or disc priest |
| 18:35.34 | selckin | =) |
| 18:35.36 | Megalon | you can turn in as much as you find |
| 18:35.38 | NeoTron | selckin: very bad yes |
| 18:35.38 | steev | we have a holy priest |
| 18:35.40 | Dashkal | *nods* I get that, turn in when you find them |
| 18:35.43 | Xinhuan | we ended up with Blessing of Sacrifice + Divine Shield |
| 18:35.49 | Xinhuan | as a solution |
| 18:35.49 | NeoTron | selckin: let's just say "former recruit" |
| 18:35.51 | Dashkal | I just would have got ex sooner had I known :p |
| 18:36.04 | selckin | :) |
| 18:36.10 | Megalon | i so hated the grind |
| 18:36.11 | Xinhuan | so that's something you can think about |
| 18:36.21 | NeoTron | right now I'm the only one that can reasonbly be expected to tank the adds |
| 18:36.28 | Megalon | flew my rounds their, 2 hours, 3-4chips |
| 18:36.30 | NeoTron | although if we go with 4 tanks it'd be warrior/druid/dk/dk |
| 18:36.37 | Megalon | port dalaran, friend comes on |
| 18:36.40 | selckin | NeoTron: class? |
| 18:36.40 | Megalon | 15min, 5 chips |
| 18:36.42 | Xinhuan | pally is really the best class for aoe tanking |
| 18:36.43 | NeoTron | DK |
| 18:36.43 | Megalon | >:C |
| 18:36.48 | NeoTron | unholy dk |
| 18:37.00 | steev | until 3.0.8 drops |
| 18:37.03 | thul | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfVMqh0IsbRxzAoG0x0hZfM <- thinking about just doing that. |
| 18:37.10 | selckin | i always have todo the adds (paladin), warrior and druid both refuse |
| 18:37.19 | thul | it is either that or this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfVMVZGMxtIxdRhoVosx |
| 18:37.19 | selckin | should be easy for a dk |
| 18:37.28 | NeoTron | http://wowwebstats.com/2iubvjkzd1wpy?s=178234-239337 I'm 4th on the damage meter |
| 18:37.51 | Xinhuan | DKs are expected to easily be in top 5 on sarth due to all the adds |
| 18:37.59 | Dashkal | Tonight should be interesting. I'm MT in Naxx. Frost build, 531 defense. |
| 18:38.12 | NeoTron | Dashkal: resilience flask ftw |
| 18:38.25 | Dashkal | NeoTron: hrm, I'll see if I can find a couple, that'll do it |
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| 18:38.45 | NeoTron | really cheap and lasts through death. well worth it to make you uncrittable (vs 600ish health) |
| 18:39.01 | Dashkal | My chance to be crit is hovering around 3 in a thousand, so I'm not really stressing |
| 18:39.04 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: one DK died somehow, the other is a friend that just filled the last spot :) |
| 18:39.28 | NeoTron | Dashkal: we had a druid tank that was "barely crittable" (less than 1%) on felmyst in his "threat set" |
| 18:39.32 | NeoTron | he died from a crit. |
| 18:39.32 | NeoTron | :) |
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| 18:39.59 | NeoTron | although I admit I did naxx(10 man mind you) with about 3% chance to be crit w/o a problem |
| 18:40.07 | Dashkal | Actually, I think I have a couple unused BS gem slots I can stick def hybrid gems into (our JC doesn't have pure def yet *sigh*) |
| 18:40.15 | thul | how much defence does the dreadplate talents act as? |
| 18:40.19 | viisual | Just go gem/enchant for 10 more |
| 18:40.54 | Dashkal | I wasn't expecting to MT before 3.0.8. I'm the backup tank. |
| 18:40.58 | NeoTron | heh |
| 18:41.08 | NeoTron | I MT'd 10 man and it's quite a difference from OTing it |
| 18:41.09 | viisual | Look at it this way... |
| 18:41.19 | viisual | Since your defense is such crap, odds are you will get a ton of loots =D |
| 18:41.30 | Dashkal | I've done neither, last week I was blood or unholy DPS (Safety dance training, UA is win) |
| 18:42.01 | Dashkal | Loot should be ... interesting tonight. I'll ask my RL what he wants me to roll under. I'm primarally a DPS, but they want me to be capable of offtanking |
| 18:42.16 | NeoTron | I had a lot of issues with that |
| 18:42.28 | NeoTron | I am the RL/loot master but I've had a hard time finding the role where I will stay |
| 18:42.38 | NeoTron | although now i'm pretty firmly in the tank role |
| 18:42.52 | Dashkal | I prefer DPS, but I'm more than willing to step in and tank when I need to |
| 18:42.57 | NeoTron | I prefer DPS |
| 18:42.59 | Dashkal | 50g is nothing for a respec and I can do my dailies either way |
| 18:43.04 | viisual | I prefer DW, we don't have rogues. |
| 18:43.11 | NeoTron | but unless we find an exceptional paladin DK I'll stick to tanking |
| 18:43.20 | NeoTron | when we don't need all tanks though, I tend to dps |
| 18:43.33 | Dashkal | Our two warriors are pretty good, they just both managed to be busy tonight *sigh* |
| 18:43.37 | NeoTron | me and the druid swap the dps role if two tanks is needed depending on the fight |
| 18:44.01 | NeoTron | I do want multi-spec so I can respec for dps fights w/o all the hassle |
| 18:44.21 | Dashkal | I'm just glad I got a chance to practice Frost last night. I only used unholy before. I was spiky as hell at my gear level. Frost, not so much |
| 18:44.45 | viisual | I thought frost was the spikiest build tho =P |
| 18:44.47 | Dashkal | The healer gave me the thumbs up, so it should go well |
| 18:44.51 | Dashkal | I can't keep bone armor up |
| 18:44.52 | NeoTron | I tried tanking as frost for a little |
| 18:44.59 | viisual | Oh, for tanking (NM) |
| 18:45.00 | Shot` | frost dps <3 |
| 18:45.01 | NeoTron | I didn't give it time I bet but didn't like it |
| 18:45.12 | NeoTron | frost is my least liked spec |
| 18:45.15 | Dashkal | I don't mind it, the HB is kind of fun, but I'm looking forward to blood |
| 18:45.20 | viisual | Dashkal, need more parry/dodge to keep it up. It's supposed to go down, that means it's working. |
| 18:45.24 | NeoTron | although for dps I might consider the frost/unholy+garg build |
| 18:45.32 | NeoTron | esp with howling blast off the cooldown |
| 18:45.41 | viisual | I crit HB for 9k last night /flee |
| 18:45.44 | Shot | I really enjoy frost, but I confess that I haven't given any other specs a real try |
| 18:45.47 | Dashkal | viisual: I know. And my avoidance will climb, but I'm primarally DPS so my tank gear is mostly blue. |
| 18:46.04 | NeoTron | viisual: hehe I crit rune strike for 8.5k :P |
| 18:46.09 | quiescens | nerf |
| 18:46.13 | viisual | Dashkal, You should be more than fine with the OP tank talents still giving uber damage reduction |
| 18:46.17 | NeoTron | I know, it'll suck, but for now it's fun |
| 18:46.26 | viisual | I don't get to rune strike on raids ;( |
| 18:46.40 | NeoTron | I do wonder if acclimation or any other magid damage reduction stuff works on sarth adds though |
| 18:46.46 | Dashkal | I catch the odd WW and get to rune strike in blood presence... it's pretty |
| 18:46.48 | Shot | Frost Strike is an awesome RP dump |
| 18:46.48 | NeoTron | they are the elemental melee attack type so it should |
| 18:47.26 | viisual | I wonder if the drakes auras will keep acclimation up? |
| 18:48.15 | NeoTron | well there's about 4711 adds hitting on me too :P |
| 18:48.53 | Aiiane | use a few subtracts and you'll be just fine |
| 18:49.02 | NeoTron | 84% of my damage taken was fire damage |
| 18:49.09 | NeoTron | i really wish there was some nice l80 fire resist gear |
| 18:49.30 | NeoTron | but acclimation + FR aura might be a good stopgap |
| 18:51.20 | quiescens | mm |
| 18:51.45 | quiescens | most elementals' melee autoattacks seem to be physical now I think? |
| 18:51.47 | Dashkal | hrm... starting to think I'm gonna miss acclimitation tonight |
| 18:51.53 | Dashkal | there's lots and LOTS of nature damage |
| 18:51.54 | quiescens | iuno |
| 18:51.56 | quiescens | I can't remember |
| 18:53.23 | quiescens | probably just the non raid elementals |
| 18:53.51 | Dashkal | Current (frost) tanking spec: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=j0xMZGxxthcdRhoVosxcgM |
| 18:54.08 | Dashkal | I breezed through heroic UK last night but that's almost all physical |
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| 18:56.18 | selckin | NeoTron: kill adds faster/more often imo |
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| 19:08.33 | Anaral | Kirov I'm stuck again. The only difference between my old copy that saves and the new one is that the old is named QIDTest and new is QualityID... |
| 19:08.56 | *** join/#wowace Fisker- (i=ballmer@91.100.50.151.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 19:10.46 | Anaral | Old --> http://www.pastey.net/105914 New --> http://www.pastey.net/105915 |
| 19:12.08 | Anaral | bah wrong channel |
| 19:12.33 | robotusch | Fisker-, no ganking at Naxx? I'm disappointed in you |
| 19:13.09 | Megalon | fisker does not gank, he trolls people to death |
| 19:13.14 | robotusch | true |
| 19:14.22 | Zhinjio | wait, I do have a leatherworker. |
| 19:14.26 | Zhinjio | idles. |
| 19:15.28 | viisual | Before I run into nax I cast my death & decay in hopes it will fear everyone outside for 10 or so seconds |
| 19:15.51 | viisual | ...until next tuesday. |
| 19:16.17 | pompy | . /sigh, so much hate in this thread, from my server. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14287189204&sid=1&pageNo=14 |
| 19:16.17 | quiescens | lol |
| 19:19.53 | Fisker- | robotusch i'm SICK |
| 19:21.20 | NivFreak | lol |
| 19:21.23 | viisual | That's a good thread =D |
| 19:21.29 | NivFreak | I'm totally gaming armorylite's rating system |
| 19:21.35 | NivFreak | I'm now #4 on the server |
| 19:21.40 | NivFreak | in a completely useless set of gear |
| 19:21.46 | viisual | lol |
| 19:21.51 | viisual | link or shens. |
| 19:21.51 | NivFreak | http://armorylite.com/score/us/frostwolf/ |
| 19:21.53 | NivFreak | <- nivwar |
| 19:23.11 | Fisker- | DARKMOON CARD: GREATNESS OMG FARMEEEER |
| 19:24.12 | *** part/#wowace Kopo (n=Niwa@c-ea3be255.1119-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
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| 19:24.40 | cubicool | Did you guys know some Ace mods are features (indirectly) in a recent issue of WiRED? |
| 19:24.46 | cubicool | Bartender, for one |
| 19:25.20 | viisual | Never heard of it. |
| 19:25.22 | cubicool | It's a one page article about WOW's interface in general... |
| 19:25.36 | cubicool | And they include a screenshot and talk about Bartender, and a few others. :) |
| 19:25.37 | selckin | nobody reads wired |
| 19:25.45 | cubicool | WiRED isn't terrible. |
| 19:25.53 | cubicool | We get it here at work free |
| 19:25.54 | selckin | it is. |
| 19:26.00 | cubicool | no u |
| 19:26.07 | NivFreak | Fisker-: 7,000G in herbs and eternals, and somehow I made 2K after making the card? |
| 19:26.09 | cubicool | anyways |
| 19:26.24 | Kopo | quick word association question: |
| 19:26.31 | Kopo | "nice" is to like and dislike what "skill" is to ____ and ____? |
| 19:27.06 | Megalon | "yourself" and "the others" |
| 19:27.08 | Megalon | ;S |
| 19:27.09 | cubicool | ret and dk? |
| 19:27.12 | Fisker- | i hate you NivFreak |
| 19:27.31 | Kopo | lol, good answers ^^ |
| 19:27.37 | Aiiane | i hate you Fisker- |
| 19:27.40 | Aiiane | i have no idea why |
| 19:27.43 | Fisker- | :( |
| 19:27.45 | Aiiane | <3 |
| 19:27.58 | Megalon | you don't really need an idea for that |
| 19:28.55 | NivFreak | Fisker-: it's ok, I've spent somewhere around 50K gold since wrath launched |
| 19:28.55 | Megalon | common sense should be enough |
| 19:29.05 | NivFreak | and I still have 13K at the moment |
| 19:29.12 | NivFreak | and rising a couple K per day |
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| 19:29.18 | Repo | 10procodile: 03Zarnivoop * r77 / (5 files in 1 directory): Item sets support |
| 19:29.22 | Repo | 10procodile: 03Zarnivoop * r78 Sets.lua: Helps if you add the file too |
| 19:29.38 | Kopo | what I'm after is more like a shorter version of "admire the skills of" and "laugh at the patheticness of" though :) |
| 19:29.48 | Aiiane | respect/disrespect? |
| 19:29.57 | viisual | !like |
| 19:30.05 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm anyone know a addon that displays daily quests you have done/not done and where? I think i remember there was a FuBar plugin that did this but I can't find it. |
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| 19:30.49 | Loldenuit | 4http://www.chat-land.org/ |
| 19:30.51 | steev | that would be a nice one |
| 19:30.52 | Loldenuit | 4v |
| 19:30.54 | Loldenuit | 4http://www.chat-land.org/ |
| 19:30.59 | steev | horribad |
| 19:31.01 | Loldenuit | 4c moi esley de land |
| 19:31.03 | Grum | LOL |
| 19:31.04 | Loldenuit | 4http://www.chat-land.org/ |
| 19:31.05 | Loldenuit | 4http://www.chat-land.org/ |
| 19:31.06 | Grum | F A I L |
| 19:31.07 | Loldenuit | 4http://www.chat-land.org/ |
| 19:31.07 | Kopo | Aiiane, yes that could work >.< |
| 19:31.09 | Loldenuit | 4http://www.chat-land.org/ |
| 19:31.10 | spode | obvious keylogger is obvious |
| 19:31.15 | Grum | ban! ban! ban! |
| 19:31.18 | Loldenuit | 4http://www.chat-land.org/ |
| 19:31.19 | Loldenuit | 4http://www.chat-land.org/ |
| 19:31.21 | Loldenuit | 4http://www.chat-land.org/ |
| 19:31.22 | Loldenuit | 4http://www.chat-land.org/ |
| 19:31.23 | Loldenuit | 4http://www.chat-land.org/ |
| 19:31.24 | Loldenuit | 4http://www.chat-land.org/ |
| 19:31.26 | Loldenuit | 4http://www.chat-land.org/ |
| 19:31.30 | Gilded | omg that's annoying |
| 19:31.31 | Loldenuit | 4http://www.chat-land.org/ |
| 19:31.38 | Stanzilla | -.- |
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| 19:31.47 | steev | they fail at targetted advertising |
| 19:31.54 | Stanzilla | abo.wanadoo.fr < always spambots |
| 19:31.54 | Grum | french people should be shot! |
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| 19:32.17 | Aiiane | steev: that was targeted in the same way a machine gun is 'targeted' |
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| 19:33.05 | steev | Stanzilla: gentoo's email server rejects wanadoo |
| 19:33.06 | Bruners | french, german and italian people ... |
| 19:33.06 | Gilded | Nickenyfiken: DailyQuestTracker? |
| 19:33.06 | steev | Grum: we can't shoot them, they always surrender :( |
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| 19:33.11 | Stanzilla | steev: it's a known spambot thingy |
| 19:33.12 | Grum | then shoot on sight |
| 19:33.27 | nevcairiel | ignore surrender, no prisoners |
| 19:33.29 | nevcairiel | shot to kill |
| 19:33.30 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 19:33.34 | Kopo | more like a sawed-off shotgun. rather rapid fire though ... |
| 19:33.36 | Grum | aim for the nuts |
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| 19:33.52 | ArrowmasterClass | somehow a wow discussion started in my class during our break, somebody is bitching about pvp being too much of a timesink now..... |
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| 19:33.58 | ArrowmasterClass | im just staying quiet |
| 19:34.12 | Nickenyfiken | Gilded: where!? :-) |
| 19:34.13 | quiescens | kill them |
| 19:34.23 | Grum | Arrowmaster: tell them that pvp is welfare epics!! |
| 19:34.41 | ArrowmasterClass | 'pvp gear costs too much honor points now' |
| 19:34.47 | ArrowmasterClass | somebody hasnt tried wintergrasp.... |
| 19:34.57 | Grum | you also get more than million honorpoints per second now |
| 19:34.58 | ArrowmasterClass | 5k+ every 3 hours |
| 19:35.02 | Gilded | Nickenyfiken: http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=mod&m=5020 |
| 19:35.03 | steev | srsly |
| 19:35.06 | Bruners | oh noes, you have to play the game to get epix |
| 19:35.09 | steev | i play about 3 hours a night |
| 19:35.20 | steev | i make ~29k honor a night |
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| 19:35.23 | Nickenyfiken | Gilded: oh... is it safe to click that link? :-P |
| 19:35.33 | nevcairiel | probably not |
| 19:35.34 | ArrowmasterClass | its worldofwar.net, no |
| 19:35.37 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt risk it |
| 19:35.37 | Gilded | lol |
| 19:35.43 | steev | <-- risked it |
| 19:35.52 | ArrowmasterClass | <-- school pc |
| 19:35.54 | ArrowmasterClass | i could click it |
| 19:35.56 | steev | <-- was unimpressed |
| 19:36.09 | steev | it also hasn't been updated since last april |
| 19:36.21 | steev | Updated 04/08/2008 (158 days ago) |
| 19:36.30 | Gilded | ah lemme get the curse link then |
| 19:36.43 | Gilded | just did a quick google for it, I know the version i'm running does the wotlk ones |
| 19:36.52 | steev | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8605-DailiesQuestTracker.html. |
| 19:37.17 | steev | Date: |
| 19:37.17 | Gilded | or http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/dailies-quest-tracker.aspx on curse |
| 19:37.18 | steev | 11-03-2008 08:18 PM |
| 19:37.22 | ArrowmasterClass | 158 days ago was 3.0? |
| 19:37.26 | Gilded | date 11/28 |
| 19:37.31 | steev | curse sucks, wowi rules! |
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| 19:37.49 | ArrowmasterClass | you are in a curse channel |
| 19:37.50 | steev | interestingly enough, i have an account on curse, not on wowi |
| 19:37.58 | Bruners | curse channel ? |
| 19:38.04 | Bruners | this is wowace! |
| 19:38.09 | steev | ArrowmasterClass: would it have helped to add <sarcasm> </sarcasm> tags to my statement? |
| 19:38.16 | ArrowmasterClass | maybe |
| 19:38.33 | steev | i prefer downloading from wowace :( |
| 19:38.47 | Nickenyfiken | No broker support? :-/ |
| 19:39.01 | steev | fubar4eva |
| 19:39.04 | EthanCentaurai | you do realise wowace is not a release site? :/ |
| 19:39.05 | Gilded | it works fine w/ the fubar to broker i'm using |
| 19:39.20 | steev | EthanCentaurai: yes... yes i do |
| 19:39.23 | Xinhuan | destroys ArrowmasterClass |
| 19:39.26 | ArrowmasterClass | i wonder if these xp pro keys i copied from my schools network drives are corp |
| 19:39.31 | Nickenyfiken | yeah but i don't want to use fubar2broker just for one addon. |
| 19:40.18 | *** join/#wowace taleden (n=atfrase@user-38q41i6.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 19:40.30 | Gilded | and I don't wanna do dailies... but sometimes we have to do things we don't like to get the end result we're looking for. ;-P |
| 19:40.46 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm why does the curse client think a addon checked out from SVN need a update? |
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| 19:41.22 | Pneumatus | because there's a new revision available? |
| 19:41.23 | Xinhuan | because its crap |
| 19:41.48 | ArrowmasterClass | check the 'ignore working copies' option |
| 19:42.00 | Nickenyfiken | I have |
| 19:42.20 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm it didn't happen in previous versions of CC me thinks. |
| 19:42.49 | nevcairiel | are you using a7? |
| 19:42.58 | nevcairiel | if so, talk to Kaelten|away if you think its a bug |
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| 19:43.59 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah using the version in the topic. Can just see 2.0.1.0 in the client itself though. |
| 19:44.32 | Nickenyfiken | I have the option "Overwrite developer addon files (for authors)" unchecked |
| 19:44.41 | nevcairiel | then you're not using the alpha :) |
| 19:44.42 | Nickenyfiken | because i don't want to overwrite my files |
| 19:45.07 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm ok. Me fail maybe. Have to DL again. |
| 19:45.36 | ArrowmasterClass | boo seems these keys arent corp |
| 19:46.03 | ArrowmasterClass | good thing i have a working one at home |
| 19:46.21 | Nickenyfiken | Oh the topic says RC1, so I dont have a7 i guess. |
| 19:46.59 | ArrowmasterClass | now i just need a vmware workstation key thats not a 180 day student one |
| 19:47.31 | taleden | sun's virtualbox is pretty slick these days |
| 19:47.38 | taleden | depending how serious your vm needs are |
| 19:47.42 | ArrowmasterClass | school uses vm ware though |
| 19:47.52 | taleden | alas, same for me at work |
| 19:47.59 | many | why isnt server good enough |
| 19:50.02 | Repo | 10muf: 03vaeyl * r16 / (7 files in 7 directories): bugfixing |
| 19:51.28 | Nickenyfiken | How do i tag a project as beta instead of release? |
| 19:52.37 | nevcairiel | mention beta in the tag name works |
| 19:52.45 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: -beta on the end |
| 19:53.11 | EthanCentaurai | or manually edit the file properties in the site list |
| 19:53.13 | taleden | anything that doesn't match the regexp "^v?[0-9._-]+|release|stable" I think is flagged beta |
| 19:53.36 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: In tag name? |
| 19:53.48 | EthanCentaurai | e.g. v2.0-beta |
| 19:54.08 | Nickenyfiken | ok i see |
| 19:55.14 | Repo | 10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken 040.3-beta * r13 : Tagging as 0.3-beta |
| 19:55.25 | Kopo | how would I check for a table being empty? |
| 19:55.48 | Kopo | basically, I want to remove items from one until there is none left, and then remove the parent |
| 19:56.36 | ckknight | Kopo: list or dictionary-style? |
| 19:56.40 | Grum | next(table) == nil |
| 19:56.47 | Grum | for dict |
| 19:56.48 | ckknight | list-style, you can check with t[1], dictionary-style, check with next(t) |
| 19:56.52 | taleden | "while k=next(tbl) do tbl[k]=nil end" to empty it |
| 19:56.58 | Grum | no |
| 19:56.59 | Grum | call wipe() |
| 19:57.02 | taleden | or that |
| 19:57.08 | ckknight | wipe is better |
| 19:57.10 | Grum | its wowlua buildin now :) |
| 19:57.28 | Kopo | calm down, I don't want to wipe, immedietly anyways ;p |
| 19:57.44 | taleden | aye, if you want to process them as they come off, then you need the manual loop |
| 19:57.55 | Kopo | but thanks, will try next() |
| 19:58.39 | Nickenyfiken | If you do table = {} the old table will still be in memory right? |
| 19:58.47 | taleden | not really |
| 19:58.55 | Kopo | only if it's referenced? |
| 19:58.58 | taleden | if no other r eference to it exists the garbage collector will clean it up |
| 19:59.06 | taleden | if another ref exists, then yes, that ref will still work |
| 19:59.26 | quiescens | teh garbage collection will clean it up.. eventually? |
| 19:59.26 | Nickenyfiken | And wipe() will wipe it even if ther are other references? |
| 19:59.50 | taleden | wipe doesn't change the reference to the table, it erases references contained in the table |
| 20:00.08 | Nickenyfiken | Ok |
| 20:00.52 | Nickenyfiken | So if i have a table that i want emtied on each update, that happens for example on each BAG_UPDATE. Should i use wipe()? |
| 20:01.12 | taleden | wipe will empty the table, yes |
| 20:01.27 | AckisWork | you must first name your table to be butt |
| 20:01.36 | AckisWork | it's a rule imo |
| 20:01.59 | taleden | but the empty table will still exist and your references to it will be intact |
| 20:02.22 | taleden | until you reassign them to nil or {} or whatever, and then the whole table can be garbage collected |
| 20:02.58 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah that's what I want. Right now i just do table = {} on each update but I have always thought it bad. |
| 20:03.14 | taleden | depending how often updates are, it's not /that/ bad |
| 20:03.26 | taleden | if it's bag_update, that's not as frequent as, say, combat_message or whatever |
| 20:03.36 | taleden | so allocating a new table and having the gc clean up the old one each bag_update isn't really such a big deal |
| 20:04.32 | Nickenyfiken | Maybe not, but I want it to be as optimal as possible. |
| 20:04.48 | viisual | bitshift! |
| 20:05.14 | thul | 470 def = heroic tanking? :-P |
| 20:05.26 | viisual | no, heroic failing. |
| 20:05.34 | thul | 10% dodge, 11.50% parry :-P |
| 20:05.35 | thul | bah |
| 20:05.44 | viisual | 540 is uncrittable. |
| 20:05.45 | thul | how am I supposed to get more def from not running heroics? :-P |
| 20:05.47 | thul | i know |
| 20:05.48 | steev | that dodge is horrendous |
| 20:05.53 | thul | but one has to start somewhere :-D |
| 20:05.54 | steev | thul: get the blue crafted set |
| 20:05.55 | viisual | sneak in and claim you have 540 |
| 20:06.10 | thul | steev: hmm, how much def do i end up with then? |
| 20:06.13 | steev | tempered |
| 20:06.22 | robotusch | 535 for heroics |
| 20:06.48 | quiescens | the blues are reasonable for defense |
| 20:06.51 | quiescens | er |
| 20:07.01 | quiescens | the crafted blues are reasonable for defense and relatively bad for stam |
| 20:07.11 | steev | http://www.wowhead.com/?compare=40669;40671;41116;40672;41114;40673;40674;40675 |
| 20:07.30 | thul | the crafted blues will give me 40 more +def, but far less stamina, expertice etc. |
| 20:07.33 | thul | bah :-( |
| 20:07.46 | robotusch | got an armory link? |
| 20:07.59 | quiescens | the.. trinket from.. hol? |
| 20:08.00 | steev | thul: welcome to DK tanking |
| 20:08.01 | quiescens | is a nice stopgap |
| 20:08.20 | steev | thul: just wait for 3.0.8 |
| 20:08.25 | steev | use the gargoyle rune |
| 20:08.26 | viisual | Abuse the hell out of IBF + Bone Shield and hope you get some heroic drops |
| 20:08.28 | thul | robotusch: for my gear? i think i logged out in dps-stuff (both spec and gear) |
| 20:08.31 | steev | on your tempered titansteel |
| 20:08.39 | steev | er, titansteel defender |
| 20:08.41 | robotusch | kk |
| 20:08.45 | steev | er |
| 20:08.47 | steev | destroyer |
| 20:08.48 | viisual | Removed from game. |
| 20:08.51 | robotusch | it's usually easier to recommmend gear upgrades :P |
| 20:08.53 | steev | since DKs are supposed to tank with dps weapons |
| 20:09.02 | thul | robotusch: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Argent+Dawn&n=Nyxos |
| 20:09.11 | selckin | what's in the case in pulp fiction :\ |
| 20:09.12 | viisual | just not dw dk tank, that is bad |
| 20:09.36 | quiescens | seal of the pantheon from loken in normal HoL gives 65 defense rating which can help |
| 20:09.38 | steev | thul: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Draka&n=Steev <-- dw dk tank that is horribad... but i only tank when none are available |
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| 20:10.02 | thul | quiescens: thanks. |
| 20:10.07 | steev | p.s. yes i know i am horribad at arena kthx |
| 20:10.20 | viisual | i only say dw is bad because of how much more you're bound to parry-gib yourself, along with the immense hit cap needed |
| 20:10.32 | steev | viisual: i don't notice an issue at all |
| 20:10.35 | quiescens | the hit is inconsequential |
| 20:10.36 | Kopo | wipe() isn't in standard lua? trying it out in an interpreter (not wow), but doesn't work |
| 20:10.38 | steev | i dodge way more than i parry |
| 20:10.49 | viisual | parry has diminishing returns =P |
| 20:10.53 | quiescens | parry gib is if your target parries you |
| 20:10.56 | quiescens | argh |
| 20:11.15 | viisual | right. |
| 20:11.30 | viisual | They gain a certain ammount of haste, not sure if it's 30, 33, or 40 |
| 20:12.36 | quiescens | it just makes their next swing come slightly faster, a varying amount depending on how long it was going to be before their next swing |
| 20:12.36 | steev | thul: oh - wyrmrest accord for chest and cloak |
| 20:12.37 | steev | revered i believe is all you need to hit |
| 20:12.38 | Kopo | nvm |
| 20:12.39 | steev | but it might be just honored |
| 20:12.40 | thul | steev: ah, ok. Doing ebon hold now, to get boots. I'll do wyrmrest after |
| 20:12.42 | quiescens | the extra miss is irrelevant because it only affects white, and you aren't going to be any more Likely to be parried its just that attacking more often means slightly more parry hasting in a given timeframe |
| 20:12.55 | thul | i'm honored with wyrm, so i can fly down and check |
| 20:12.58 | quiescens | and you hardly see very many warriors/paladins going |
| 20:13.15 | steev | thul: i think the cloak might be honored, the boots are definitely revered |
| 20:13.17 | quiescens | oh hey I'll use this 2.6 weapon because I'm afraid of parry haste |
| 20:13.26 | steev | you should be able to hit revered or close to it from quests alone |
| 20:14.03 | steev | quiescens: well i use the dual wield because gargoyle isn't out yet, as soon as it is, ill be going back to 2h tanking |
| 20:14.13 | steev | for now though, im around 520 without those weapons |
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| 20:14.29 | quiescens | eh I'm trying to argue it isn't as bad as people keep parroting on about |
| 20:14.45 | steev | quiescens: well i've off tanked naxx with that getup |
| 20:14.51 | steev | so it can't be too horrible |
| 20:15.16 | quiescens | half the time they aren't even correct, talking about hit caps and the like |
| 20:15.17 | thul | is it hard to keep aggro with dw? |
| 20:15.21 | steev | and i've tanked every heroic |
| 20:15.24 | steev | thul: no |
| 20:15.33 | steev | i've not completed every heroic |
| 20:15.39 | steev | gives oculus the middle finger |
| 20:15.41 | quiescens | people just echo what they've heard |
| 20:15.43 | steev | but i've tanked em |
| 20:16.41 | thul | i jus techo what i read on ej :-P |
| 20:17.15 | steev | the issue is DK is too new |
| 20:17.25 | steev | there is still limited testing thats been done |
| 20:19.20 | steev | thul: honestly |
| 20:19.22 | thul | up to 481 defence |
| 20:19.23 | thul | :-P |
| 20:19.25 | steev | i'd say my biggest issue |
| 20:19.32 | steev | is waiting on fscking cooldowns |
| 20:19.39 | steev | and i don't mean ibf or unbreakable armor |
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| 20:20.07 | steev | i mean aoe heavy pulls when DnD isn't quite ready and pestilence isn't available (the Brann event in heroic HoL) |
| 20:20.40 | quiescens | pestilence losing its cooldown will be convenient |
| 20:23.10 | Grum | the DK cooldowns dont really seem to work with you on AOE stuff |
| 20:24.01 | quiescens | the aoe tanking abilities all have their little annoyances |
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| 20:24.29 | quiescens | swipe is directional, but has no cooldown and is instant threat |
| 20:25.39 | quiescens | consecrate has a cooldown equal to duration, but its a pain in the neck for a mobile fight and takes time to generate any meaningful threat |
| 20:26.02 | NeoTron | steev: pestilence off CD will help a lot |
| 20:26.17 | steev | NeoTron: indeed it will |
| 20:26.23 | Repo | 10xperl: 03StingerSoft * r258 localization.ruRU.lua: XPerl: ruRU update spell ID |
| 20:26.23 | quiescens | thunderclap isn't directional and gives a lot of threat instantly but the cooldown can be troublesome if badly timed |
| 20:26.33 | Dashkal | Between blood tap and if you're in real yrouble empower, you can get that pestelance off |
| 20:26.33 | NeoTron | and as unholy, brann is super easy |
| 20:26.48 | steev | sadly, i tank frost |
| 20:26.56 | quiescens | d&d has a longer cooldown than effect but targetted aoe effect is convenient sometimes |
| 20:26.57 | NeoTron | I would always have D&D and/or UB up |
| 20:27.08 | steev | but viisual linked me the dw dk tank builds thread on ej |
| 20:27.18 | steev | so i might try some out after i make money for spec |
| 20:27.23 | NeoTron | I just think DW tank seems dangerous |
| 20:27.30 | Dashkal | Pestelence triggers a death rune. I had no AoE issues last night except when the damn lock kept casting before I finished my first cycle |
| 20:27.31 | steev | its really not |
| 20:27.33 | NeoTron | I know damage isn't as critical but parry haste is bad |
| 20:27.55 | Dashkal | Ok, I hear "parry haste is bad" all the time. How bad is it really? |
| 20:27.56 | steev | NeoTron: i really don't take much spikey damage |
| 20:28.13 | quiescens | dashkal: that's what makes thunderclap nice |
| 20:28.17 | quiescens | because its front loaded |
| 20:28.22 | NeoTron | Dashkal: the main issue is a situation like this: you aoe tank a pull. D&D is CD/waiting on runes, pestilence is waiting on runes.. and a group adds |
| 20:28.38 | Dashkal | quiescens: *nods* I used death and decay for the initial threat, but it wasn't always enough when the DPS starts immediately |
| 20:28.43 | NeoTron | and aoe is already going |
| 20:28.52 | Dashkal | NeoTron: blood tap or empower :p |
| 20:29.01 | NeoTron | I never have an issue when I can do D&D first on pull, and use it/ps/pest right after |
| 20:29.06 | Dashkal | that's how I handled it last night anyway. Happened to us a couple times |
| 20:29.06 | NeoTron | but unfortunately that isn't alwys the case |
| 20:29.13 | steev | wait |
| 20:29.18 | NeoTron | neither helps with cooldowns |
| 20:29.22 | steev | you can blood tap and it pulls the rune off the cooldown? |
| 20:29.32 | NeoTron | blood tap clears the rune cooldown yes |
| 20:29.41 | steev | shit i fail |
| 20:29.50 | steev | if i woulda known that we would have won the internet last night |
| 20:29.53 | Dashkal | no, and agreed. But pest is coming off. Last night I used blood tap cause pest was up, and empower the second time for a howling blast cause it wasn't. |
| 20:29.55 | NeoTron | 1 blood => 1 death immediately available |
| 20:30.11 | steev | yeah |
| 20:30.24 | NeoTron | pest and HB off cooldown will help a lot when you have those abiltiies |
| 20:30.27 | NeoTron | I eam |
| 20:30.31 | Dashkal | Blood tap lights up a blood rune as a death rune instantly. Not _quite_ an extra rune on demand, but handy |
| 20:30.33 | NeoTron | pest will help everyone, HB will help frost |
| 20:30.40 | Dashkal | yep yep |
| 20:30.51 | quiescens | I haven't seen the HB change mentioned anywhere |
| 20:30.58 | quiescens | but people keep talking about it |
| 20:31.00 | Dashkal | Ghost commented |
| 20:31.31 | Dashkal | *Howling Blast: Cooldown removed. |
| 20:31.35 | Dashkal | It's in the patch notes |
| 20:32.24 | NeoTron | it is highly unfortunate that DW seems to be the best dps build already |
| 20:32.34 | NeoTron | to the degree that 2H will fall away like with every other spec |
| 20:32.39 | NeoTron | s/spec/class/ |
| 20:32.42 | Zenom | What is with all the roling restarts. |
| 20:32.43 | NeoTron | except warriors |
| 20:32.46 | Zenom | Second time today for Medivh. |
| 20:32.50 | NeoTron | well and pallies of course |
| 20:33.10 | quiescens | paladins can't dual wield so that doesn't really count as an example |
| 20:33.18 | Dashkal | NeoTron: Fortunately they're aware of that and working against it |
| 20:33.34 | NivFreak | TG warriors have it sort of rough |
| 20:33.53 | NivFreak | spending DKP against ret pallies, arms warriors, and 2H DKs |
| 20:34.04 | NivFreak | all of who horde and spend on weapons |
| 20:34.08 | NeoTron | NivFreak: err yeah. they also top dps charts. poor them :P |
| 20:34.10 | quiescens | on the one hand I'm thinking its too bad they're planning to nerf the dual wield oriented talents so drastically |
| 20:34.13 | NivFreak | NeoTron: not for long |
| 20:34.18 | NivFreak | deep wounds nerf inc =/ |
| 20:34.20 | quiescens | but at the same time |
| 20:34.38 | NivFreak | OPness will get nerfed, but they will still be screwed on DKP |
| 20:34.50 | quiescens | it's probably about time they made 2handers a viable option even if a class can dual wield |
| 20:34.50 | Dashkal | I'm ornery. I'm sticking with 2H blood regardless. Just cause DW is higher doesn't mean I have to be or the raid failes |
| 20:34.51 | NeoTron | they are no more screwed than anyone else |
| 20:34.53 | NeoTron | that's just BS |
| 20:35.09 | NivFreak | Dashkal: so you're going with the lowest DPS spec atm? ok |
| 20:35.26 | Dashkal | NivFreak: My DPS is #2 in our raids, and bosses die. What else matters? |
| 20:35.37 | quiescens | anyway |
| 20:35.44 | NivFreak | Dashkal: epeen clearly |
| 20:35.47 | durcyn | Dashkal: optimization. |
| 20:35.48 | quiescens | which patch notes were you looking at dashkal |
| 20:35.51 | NeoTron | I don't think blood is really that much eworse DPS is it? |
| 20:35.52 | NivFreak | and you can and should always improve |
| 20:35.54 | NeoTron | like on single target fights |
| 20:35.56 | NivFreak | I'd question why you're not #1 |
| 20:35.59 | quiescens | I don't see any mention of howling blast in the ones on blizzard's page |
| 20:36.04 | Dashkal | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=33198.0 |
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| 20:36.09 | NivFreak | NeoTron: before this next round of nerfs it's behind a lot |
| 20:36.11 | Dashkal | an updated one got posted to eu |
| 20:36.30 | Dashkal | NivFreak: I'm #2 because we have a warrior in 25 man gear ahead of me |
| 20:36.34 | NeoTron | out of curiosity, what nerfs? |
| 20:36.37 | durcyn | though you probably have other issues if a blood deathknight is second on damage |
| 20:36.48 | Dashkal | Also, he's my hysteria target since he's the highest physical DPS |
| 20:36.49 | quiescens | they're changing killing machine |
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| 20:36.59 | quiescens | to a ppm thing |
| 20:37.02 | quiescens | rather than a flat % |
| 20:37.14 | NivFreak | NeoTron: well the DW hybrid spec is toast post nerfs |
| 20:37.28 | NivFreak | unholy got hit hard between the gargoyle nerf and uh what was the other.. |
| 20:37.29 | NeoTron | _what_ nerfs breaks it? killing machine solely? |
| 20:37.49 | Dashkal | I'm less interested in my personal DPS than my raid DPS contribution anyway. Abom might + Hysteria == Very helpful |
| 20:37.51 | NeoTron | I didn't see the gargoyle change until I just looked now |
| 20:38.04 | NeoTron | WTF did they nerf AMZ for. not like it was that good anyway |
| 20:38.20 | Dashkal | Agreed. My unholy tank build just dropped that talent. |
| 20:38.33 | NeoTron | they buffed necrosis by 100% |
| 20:38.44 | NeoTron | that's a pretty big DW boost |
| 20:38.53 | Dashkal | DW isn't being nerfed to uselessness, just reduced. That's all |
| 20:39.08 | quiescens | necrosis doesn't really favour dw |
| 20:39.22 | NeoTron | it most definitely does |
| 20:39.23 | Dashkal | huh? DW has a higher white % than 2H |
| 20:39.28 | NeoTron | DW has a higher percentage of white ... right |
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| 20:40.00 | NivFreak | it looks like there's a 2H unholy spec that might actually keep a similar amount of DPS to the DW hybrid spec |
| 20:40.04 | NivFreak | post 3.0.8 |
| 20:40.14 | quiescens | not in the same way as killing machine did |
| 20:40.16 | NivFreak | some of the unholy buffs might push it up :) |
| 20:40.26 | nevcairiel | I hope they fix ebon-plague problems |
| 20:40.30 | quiescens | its flat scaling |
| 20:40.34 | NivFreak | NeoTron: the lag ones? :) |
| 20:40.36 | nevcairiel | with only one DK having it for disease-scaling |
| 20:40.40 | NivFreak | oh |
| 20:40.41 | NivFreak | yea |
| 20:40.49 | NivFreak | nevcairiel that was |
| 20:41.02 | nevcairiel | was it? |
| 20:41.03 | Dashkal | ebon plague is a problem... Part of the reason I'm frost tonight is our other backup tank is an unholy DK... Can't have two |
| 20:41.20 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: I mean, that was aimed at you |
| 20:41.23 | NeoTron | it seems like they just made it not able to be worked around |
| 20:41.26 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 20:41.32 | NeoTron | so you can't have one person with EB and one with CF |
| 20:41.34 | NeoTron | like before |
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| 20:41.47 | NeoTron | so rather than fixing it they made it worse |
| 20:41.47 | nevcairiel | GC said that they want to fix it |
| 20:41.56 | NeoTron | but instead they break it more :) |
| 20:41.59 | nevcairiel | but they had to make stacking of both impossible |
| 20:42.00 | Dashkal | I'm gonna guess that there was a bug in the workaround that they had to plug despite not having a solution yet |
| 20:42.04 | NeoTron | intent and desire != doing it |
| 20:42.08 | NivFreak | my best DK is back to 17/0/54 (not the cookie cutter one) for 3.0.8 |
| 20:42.22 | nevcairiel | CF and EB stacked was insane disease dps |
| 20:42.38 | NivFreak | he'd been tearing shit up with 0/32/39 |
| 20:43.02 | NeoTron | are you saynig CF affected other DK's diseases too? |
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| 20:43.28 | NeoTron | I always assumed MY disease damage did 30% more dps |
| 20:43.30 | viisual | NeoTron, didn't you read that linke I gave you two days ago! /sigh |
| 20:44.06 | NeoTron | I sit in here from work... usually can't go browsing obvious websites for too long |
| 20:44.09 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: yeah, the bonus counts for all DKs |
| 20:44.10 | quiescens | I think the debuff for +disease damage works for any dk |
| 20:44.23 | nevcairiel | thats why they need to fix it |
| 20:44.28 | NeoTron | well priests too no? |
| 20:44.28 | quiescens | you just lose the scaling from the abilities that say +x% for each disease you have |
| 20:44.41 | NeoTron | devouring plague |
| 20:44.42 | nevcairiel | all diseases then =P |
| 20:45.25 | NeoTron | they just need to make anyone with CF or EB talents gain the benefits from CF or EB on the target |
| 20:45.47 | viisual | Yea, then I can just ignore PS all together for my 8k ITs woot |
| 20:45.53 | NeoTron | it's such an easy and obvious fix that you wonder how cryptic and complicated their system is |
| 20:46.22 | nevcairiel | It probably has to be very complex for all the variations they allow |
| 20:46.24 | NeoTron | viisual: you still want your plague fever up or you just have 2 diseases anyway |
| 20:46.45 | viisual | :( |
| 20:47.08 | viisual | Woa |
| 20:47.12 | viisual | lightbulb moment |
| 20:47.31 | viisual | chains of ice glyph + new glove bonus = awesome? |
| 20:47.44 | quiescens | what's the new glove bonus? |
| 20:47.49 | NeoTron | they obviously handle diseases for DK's in some "special" way since it's not hard for them to make buffs that affect the raid or specific people in the raid (like the old scorch debuff or immolate for incinerate) |
| 20:47.51 | viisual | When you cast Chains of Ice... |
| 20:47.58 | viisual | It refreshes a frost rune on CD |
| 20:48.06 | Repo | 10nauticus: 03Drool * r120 / (8 files in 2 directories): |
| 20:48.09 | Repo | - update readme.txt and localisation tidy-up before tagging as release |
| 20:48.29 | quiescens | I'm pretty sure even the old scorch debuff was shared by all the mages? |
| 20:48.36 | viisual | "Whenever you cast Chains of Ice, there is a chance that your Frost Rune will immediately refresh." |
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| 20:50.13 | NeoTron | quiescens: it was |
| 20:51.19 | quiescens | I guess the issue the DK one was half way in between |
| 20:51.56 | NeoTron | there's one thing I do like about tanking - as long as people don't die due to lost aggro or bad tanking, I don't have to really worry about my DPS :P |
| 20:52.00 | quiescens | They wanted the debuff effect itself applicable for anyone but had to scale the damage of the various weapon strikes based on your own number of diseases |
| 20:52.19 | NeoTron | but I am still very happy about managing to finally out-threat the druid tank on Patchwerk OTing :P |
| 20:53.01 | Wraithan1 | Hmm, Shadowsong is not listed as a server that is going down, yet the game just hung up for me and the rest of my guildies... |
| 20:53.04 | Wraithan1 | laaaaame |
| 20:53.18 | durcyn | ~wowalert |
| 20:53.19 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 20:53.26 | viisual | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:53.53 | Kuja^ | sylvanaar: http://ace.pastey.net/105925 |
| 20:53.58 | Wraithan1 | See? No shadowsong yet still it is down =( |
| 20:54.05 | Wraithan1 | is a sad panda |
| 20:54.19 | Sliker_Hawk | .. The forums just went down? |
| 20:54.22 | Sliker_Hawk | And blizzard.com |
| 20:54.29 | NivFreak | yea |
| 20:54.31 | Wraithan1 | haha, someone forgot to pay the internet bill |
| 20:54.36 | Repo | 10nauticus: 03Drool 043.0.4 * r121 : Tagging as 3.0.4 |
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| 20:56.40 | NeoTron | so I read that devouring plague is spread using pestilence. is that true? |
| 20:56.52 | NeoTron | I never actually bothered checking |
| 20:57.08 | NeoTron | and probabl most of the case when I use pestilence the SP's don't use DP |
| 20:57.08 | nevcairiel | probably not |
| 20:57.51 | Pneumatus | dp does get spread |
| 20:57.55 | Pneumatus | as does all diseases |
| 20:58.00 | Pneumatus | *do |
| 20:58.11 | nevcairiel | and i thought it only would spread your own diseases |
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| 20:58.24 | Pneumatus | no, pestillence spreads ALL diseases |
| 20:58.36 | Pneumatus | which makes it pro as hell with more dks, shadow priests and feral druids |
| 20:58.43 | nevcairiel | thats pretty awesome |
| 20:59.14 | nevcairiel | does it jump on CC targets, btw? |
| 20:59.17 | nevcairiel | i never tested, i think |
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| 20:59.33 | quiescens | it says it doesn't |
| 20:59.39 | Pneumatus | dunno, i've not done anything that has needed CC |
| 20:59.56 | nevcairiel | nothing requires CC in wotlk |
| 21:00.10 | Pneumatus | exactly :> |
| 21:00.18 | NivFreak | what is CC? |
| 21:00.21 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 21:00.29 | Pneumatus | actually |
| 21:00.32 | Pneumatus | razuvious does |
| 21:00.36 | NivFreak | lol |
| 21:00.36 | durcyn | according to a paladin forum signture i saw, it stands for continuous consecration |
| 21:00.39 | Pneumatus | as MC is technically CC |
| 21:00.40 | NeoTron | frankly I love the aoe tanking stuff of WotLK. I hope that, for the most part, ulduar will be the same |
| 21:00.41 | NivFreak | fuck razuvious too |
| 21:00.44 | Bruners | crowd controll, curse client etc |
| 21:00.50 | NeoTron | it's a lot more fun than the old cc-single target crap of SWP :P |
| 21:00.51 | nevcairiel | credit card? |
| 21:00.59 | Pneumatus | MOLTEN CORE IS CURSE CLIENT WHUT |
| 21:01.00 | NivFreak | there is nothing I dread more than bringing a green priest to raz |
| 21:01.14 | NeoTron | Pneumatus: Master Card is indeed a Credit Card.. but can be a Debit Card too |
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| 21:01.41 | Pneumatus | the only thing worse than a new priest to raz, is a priest that doesnt have 6% hit |
| 21:01.49 | Kopo | crappy connection, obviously |
| 21:01.50 | Pneumatus | as they will chainfail with early breaks |
| 21:01.56 | nevcairiel | we did it with holy priests without hit gear |
| 21:01.59 | nevcairiel | usually works fine |
| 21:02.13 | Pneumatus | without 6% hit you get loads of early breaks though |
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| 21:02.33 | nevcairiel | i still think it sucks that you need to bring 2 priests that know wtf they do |
| 21:02.34 | Bruners | %hit got anything to do with duration ? |
| 21:02.35 | nevcairiel | ours all suck |
| 21:02.43 | Kopo | http://www.wowace.com/paste/114/ <---- LibGrudge-1.0-prealpha: Helps addons keep track of people you like/hate, or that you think are particularily skilled/bad. Uses a scalar system rather than lists. |
| 21:03.11 | Kopo | not really all that useful, but it will just feel silly if I don't complete it now :/ |
| 21:03.58 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r31 / (2 files in 2 directories): add zhCN locale from bigcell, thanks! |
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| 21:07.07 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: we do it with holy priests, but the pull sucks without the increased shadow range |
| 21:07.13 | NivFreak | I usually SW and run in |
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| 21:07.44 | nevcairiel | yeah we have some tank run in too |
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| 21:09.35 | Pneumatus | we only have 1 raiding shadow priest and his attendance sux |
| 21:09.45 | Pneumatus | so we have at least 1 holy doing it, if not 2 |
| 21:10.38 | durcyn | man, what an amazing bug |
| 21:10.43 | viisual | You don't *have* to use priests. |
| 21:11.03 | durcyn | apparenly as recently as yesterday morning, you could have a priest stand in the lava in sartharion's room with a reflective shield on, and it would damage him without entering combat |
| 21:11.16 | durcyn | then you pull him at 1% and collect loot |
| 21:11.28 | durcyn | hotfixed =( |
| 21:12.35 | pentium166 | they hotfix all the neat stuff before i get a chance to abuse it |
| 21:14.04 | many | goldspammers must be good at math. 1kG 10EUR, 5kG 52EUR |
| 21:14.07 | NeoTron | I wonder what happened if you combined that with 3 drakes |
| 21:14.25 | NeoTron | many: large delivery premium fee |
| 21:14.31 | many | ah! |
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| 21:16.59 | pompy | NeoTron: the drakes were still up |
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| 21:17.49 | NeoTron | seems like a prime time for some mass bans |
| 21:17.51 | NivFreak | durcyn: yea, worked last night, nerfed this morning |
| 21:18.01 | NivFreak | durcyn: we intentionally did not exploit it |
| 21:18.06 | Wraithan1 | friend at bliz just told me their building lost intratubes |
| 21:18.15 | NivFreak | but we suspect 2 or the 3 guilds that have 3 drakes down on my server horde side, did |
| 21:18.20 | NivFreak | 2 of* |
| 21:18.31 | NeoTron | they should all be permabanned |
| 21:18.38 | NeoTron | it's not like it wasn't obvious it was a bug and exploit |
| 21:18.48 | NivFreak | at least they should yank thier kills |
| 21:18.51 | NivFreak | I hope they figure out a way to |
| 21:18.59 | NivFreak | not sure they keep enough data though |
| 21:19.10 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: sadly, they usually give you only a 3day and revert the achievement |
| 21:19.15 | Wraithan1 | It was in the game, of course it was made to be done that way *rolls eyes* |
| 21:19.21 | pompy | NeoTron: they are gonna taek the title away and mount more than likely |
| 21:19.26 | NivFreak | the exploit took ~2 hours from what I understan |
| 21:19.26 | NivFreak | d |
| 21:19.36 | NeoTron | which is better than nothing |
| 21:19.43 | NivFreak | agreed |
| 21:19.52 | NivFreak | and any guild that loses thier kill will be mocked in shame |
| 21:19.56 | NivFreak | on our server at least |
| 21:20.08 | quiescens | heh |
| 21:20.08 | nevcairiel | My guess is that they have some sort of triggers that notify devs if encounters are beaten by a very small group/unusual group |
| 21:20.11 | nevcairiel | to check for exploits |
| 21:20.32 | NivFreak | well, we think they did it with a full raid group |
| 21:20.34 | Wraithan1 | Nev, usually people report before anything like that is caught |
| 21:20.44 | pompy | NeoTron: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14287189204&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 21:20.46 | viisual | Here of "Warden" ? |
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| 21:21.42 | NivFreak | hear |
| 21:21.57 | NivFreak | warden doesn't catch shit like that |
| 21:22.00 | Gnarfoz | warden has nothing to do with that |
| 21:22.01 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 21:22.04 | NivFreak | pompy: forums are down |
| 21:22.09 | NeoTron | would be server side stuff |
| 21:22.28 | pompy | yeah true |
| 21:22.29 | durcyn | and yes, they do look for damage and such outside of normal ranges |
| 21:22.34 | Gnarfoz | but why would lava dmg reflect to sartharion? |
| 21:22.52 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: because it was registered as one of his spells I'd imagine |
| 21:22.55 | NivFreak | not environment |
| 21:22.57 | steev | yay authentication server being down |
| 21:23.01 | NivFreak | I haven't look at logs though |
| 21:23.05 | NivFreak | looked |
| 21:23.09 | Wraithan1 | durcyn: they do but typically other players report people before any of that gets used, someone tells their friend, their friend tells their guild, someone reports |
| 21:23.11 | Gnarfoz | I thought I got the usual "you lose 601 hp for swimming in lava" thing |
| 21:23.24 | durcyn | Wraithan1: yes, well, that's what bragging gets you |
| 21:23.36 | Gnarfoz | hm, this makes me suspect foul play on my realm, btw xD |
| 21:23.39 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: I'd have to look at combatlog to verify ;) |
| 21:23.44 | Gnarfoz | investigates |
| 21:23.45 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: same with ours ;) |
| 21:24.20 | Gnarfoz | alliance +3d first kill was still out there, then the 3rd most likely guild to get it got it |
| 21:24.36 | Gnarfoz | which kind of stumped me because last I heard it wasn't going so well for them ^^ |
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| 21:24.59 | Gnarfoz | but I could also just be paranoid ;P |
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| 21:25.20 | NivFreak | so it's a challenging fight |
| 21:25.20 | Megalon | there is nothing wrong with being paranoid |
| 21:25.24 | NivFreak | but it's not impossible or near it |
| 21:25.30 | Megalon | BECAUSE THEY ARE AFTER YOU Gnarfoz! |
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| 21:25.47 | NivFreak | the hardest thing for us is, I'm not sure we have 3 tanks who are truely geared enough for it |
| 21:25.59 | NivFreak | I'm certainly geared enough, my druids is still lagging in his gear |
| 21:26.07 | NivFreak | druid* |
| 21:26.45 | Gnarfoz | for us it's back to DON'T STAND IN THE FIRE |
| 21:26.52 | Gnarfoz | a.k.a. movement cripples |
| 21:27.04 | nevcairiel | fire and void zones |
| 21:27.10 | nevcairiel | curses his guildies |
| 21:27.11 | NivFreak | void zones are trouble for a lot of people yea |
| 21:27.22 | NivFreak | http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j43/Viralrush/VoidZones.jpg |
| 21:27.29 | NivFreak | show them that |
| 21:27.30 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 21:27.31 | Gnarfoz | nice |
| 21:27.32 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:27.45 | Gnarfoz | I mean come on, how hard can it be |
| 21:28.16 | Gnarfoz | we got frustrated and killed off one add after some 2-3 hours of +3d tries... and people stood in THOSE void zones, too |
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| 21:28.46 | Gnarfoz | it's like they just *want* to see FailBot spam their names. ^^ |
| 21:28.48 | NivFreak | I weed out people who consistently fail those tests over time |
| 21:28.50 | nevcairiel | do you get double void zones if two drakes are up? |
| 21:28.54 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 21:28.55 | AckisWork | get flippy |
| 21:29.10 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: sure need flippy, but it's not up to date :( |
| 21:29.16 | AckisWork | I don't raid! |
| 21:29.19 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: btw, void zone detection in libfail seems broken :O |
| 21:29.22 | NeoTron | we did 2d this week since we hadn't done any drakes before (never had 25 people) |
| 21:29.28 | AckisWork | LFGuild to carry me through to get full T7.5 and achievements PST |
| 21:29.34 | AckisWork | (horde holy priest sup) |
| 21:29.43 | AckisWork | have noods if needed |
| 21:29.45 | AckisWork | kekek |
| 21:29.47 | nevcairiel | its T7.10 and 7.25 .. screw 7.5 |
| 21:29.50 | Gnarfoz | 1d was a pushover, 2d wasn't hard either once enough DPS survived |
| 21:29.56 | nevcairiel | we never did 1d |
| 21:29.58 | nevcairiel | straight to 2 |
| 21:30.02 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: ^5 |
| 21:30.14 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: well so did we |
| 21:30.24 | NeoTron | and 2d was trivial for us |
| 21:30.30 | NeoTron | 6 wipes is not what I consider "hard" |
| 21:30.33 | Gnarfoz | wtb our paladin, warrior and main DK tank being available for the same night of tries... :( |
| 21:30.34 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 21:30.37 | NivFreak | working on 3d, then going to 2d was dead simple |
| 21:30.51 | Nizomi | meh tanaris sucks for mithril farming |
| 21:31.03 | AckisWork | I tried to convince a guild I was in to do 1d, and they gave up after 1 wipe |
| 21:31.05 | NeoTron | next week we'll have our DK go tank unless we get more heals so our holy pally/backup tank can tank |
| 21:31.08 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: exactly what we did last time (but we had killed 2d on their own before)... went from +3 tries to +2... nearly fell over ;) |
| 21:31.14 | NeoTron | AckisWork: fail? |
| 21:31.21 | NeoTron | so 3d 10 man... a lot harder yes? |
| 21:31.24 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 21:31.33 | AckisWork | NeoTron: this was a super fail server |
| 21:31.34 | NeoTron | think we'll go for 2d 10 man |
| 21:31.34 | Gnarfoz | less wriggle room ^^ |
| 21:31.37 | Nizomi | whats the best zone to farm mithril? imho tanaris has too many and too big caves; cave = no mount = slow |
| 21:31.48 | Gnarfoz | Nizomi: badlands is good |
| 21:32.01 | Nizomi | at that dragon gorge? |
| 21:32.08 | Gnarfoz | all over the place actually |
| 21:32.17 | NeoTron | most of badlands is iron |
| 21:32.19 | Gnarfoz | Nizomi: also... hmm wowhead -> "mithril vein" -> maps |
| 21:32.22 | Nizomi | hm lemme see a route :p |
| 21:32.26 | NivFreak | NeoTron: we did 3tanks, 3healers, 4 dps |
| 21:32.40 | Gnarfoz | well, get GatherMate, GatherMate_Data, Routes... done? :P |
| 21:32.41 | NivFreak | and we didn't quit have the dps to get tenebron down before the 2nd set of adds |
| 21:32.43 | NeoTron | NivFreak: for 2 or 3 ? |
| 21:32.47 | NivFreak | for 3 |
| 21:32.55 | NivFreak | we had sort of bad group comp though |
| 21:33.01 | NivFreak | fury war, warlock, 2xboomkin |
| 21:33.07 | Gnarfoz | do you think 3tanks, 2 healers, 5 dps would be viable? |
| 21:33.08 | NivFreak | We just grabbed what we can |
| 21:33.20 | Gnarfoz | or "just too much" ^^ |
| 21:33.22 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: the healing gets really rough when the 3rd drake lands imo |
| 21:33.38 | Nizomi | wow |
| 21:33.41 | Nizomi | fast optimization |
| 21:33.46 | Nizomi | didn't even freeze lol |
| 21:33.53 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: yeah :\ |
| 21:34.19 | durcyn | you shouldn't have more than about a minute of shadron and vesperon together |
| 21:34.25 | NivFreak | we were using disc priest, holy priest, and resto shaman |
| 21:34.26 | durcyn | and tenebron really should be dead by the time shardon lands |
| 21:34.32 | durcyn | shardon rather |
| 21:34.34 | NivFreak | durcyn: yes |
| 21:34.37 | durcyn | christ. shadron |
| 21:34.38 | NeoTron | think there's a real chance of doing 3 drake without full 25 man gear? |
| 21:34.41 | NivFreak | we just came up short |
| 21:34.43 | Gnarfoz | ok, so it's pal+war+dk; priest+tree+shaman; rogue+ret+enh+... something! (another rogue maybe) for us ^^ |
| 21:34.49 | NivFreak | NeoTron: yes |
| 21:34.53 | NivFreak | NeoTron: it's not that tight |
| 21:34.56 | Hell-Razor | wow tichondrious authentication server is down even though its not on the list |
| 21:35.07 | NivFreak | if you have solid players in full naxx-10man+ I think you can do it |
| 21:35.11 | NivFreak | tanks will need more I think though |
| 21:35.33 | durcyn | Hell-Razor: the logon servers are per region, not realm |
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| 21:40.00 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Ackis * r156 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: Converstion to localization app phase 1 |
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| 21:42.08 | NeoTron | the two tanks (main) have around 38.7k health fully buffed |
| 21:44.11 | Zenom | Is all of US having problems authenticating? |
| 21:44.24 | Lyset | Shadowed you here? |
| 21:44.27 | nevcairiel | yeah Auth server is down |
| 21:44.27 | Repo | 10calendar_broker: 03LordFarlander * r13 / (3 files in 2 directories): Calendar_Broker: |
| 21:44.30 | Repo | - Added duration option for the tooltip |
| 21:44.34 | Repo | - ldb object now has a value member which has the number of current events |
| 21:44.38 | Shadowed | Depends how much work me being here does |
| 21:44.49 | nevcairiel | (22:26:08) (@Shiibot) New WoW-US Server Alert: January 09, 2009 1:15 PM PST. |
| 21:44.50 | nevcairiel | (22:26:08) (@Shiibot) The authentication server is down for urgent maintenance and the following realms are also undergoing urgent maintenance. We currently have no estimate on when these will be available for play again and will provide further details when they are available. Thank you for your patience. |
| 21:44.52 | nevcairiel | (22:26:08) (@Shiibot) Agamaggan. Alexstrasza. Alleria. Arathor. Azjol-Nerub. Azshara. Baelgun. Balnazzar. Blackhand. Bloodscalp. Bonechewer. Boulderfist. Bronzebeard. Cho'gall. Crushridge. Daggerspine. Dark Iron. Darkspear. Destromath. Dethecus |
| 21:44.53 | nevcairiel | ^ |
| 21:45.07 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 21:45.12 | quiescens | kaboom~ |
| 21:45.13 | Shadowed | s/does/requires/ |
| 21:45.14 | NivFreak | get your methadone out folks! |
| 21:45.21 | Lyset | that I do not know, is there a known issue with arenahistorian? it says we got a 10:1 win ratio against dk/pala while we def not have that |
| 21:45.51 | Wraithan1 | I know last night one of their racks of servers had a part burn up |
| 21:45.57 | Hell-Razor | durcyn, oooo |
| 21:46.04 | Wraithan1 | not sure what, friend couldn't give details |
| 21:46.06 | Hell-Razor | fuckin auth servers =P |
| 21:46.10 | Shadowed | uh |
| 21:46.14 | Shadowed | you would have to give a screenshot |
| 21:46.31 | Lyset | mk, loggin in |
| 21:46.32 | Shadowed | I haven't heard of any issues, but unless I can see what it's showing I can't do much |
| 21:46.33 | Shadowed | you can't |
| 21:46.37 | Shadowed | unless you're EU |
| 21:46.47 | Lyset | Im EU |
| 21:48.43 | NivFreak | forums/armory are back |
| 21:49.04 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03cremor * r4898 Naxxramas (2 files in 1 directory): deDE update: |
| 21:49.06 | Repo | - Fixed Patchwerk start trigger. |
| 21:49.10 | Repo | - Fixed Maexxna frenzy trigger. |
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| 21:55.46 | steev | not here they aren't NivFreak |
| 21:55.53 | steev | Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at forums.worldofwarcraft.com. |
| 21:56.05 | Wraithan1 | nor blizzard.com |
| 21:56.19 | Wraithan1 | they lost a lot of hardware |
| 21:56.33 | NivFreak | died again |
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| 22:01.49 | steev | Wraithan1: so they are sending out a search party? |
| 22:01.56 | Wraithan1 | one would hoop |
| 22:01.57 | Wraithan1 | er |
| 22:01.58 | Wraithan1 | hope |
| 22:02.13 | steev | well thats what they get for using HP... IM JUST SAYIN |
| 22:02.19 | X223x | Can someone help me here. I just downloaded SBF buffbar. and I wana use Cycircled. is ther any mod like it that works with it ? seams CyCircled is out of date |
| 22:02.33 | steev | buttonfacade maybe? |
| 22:02.39 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Ackis * r157 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: See if this commits through the script... |
| 22:02.59 | X223x | hmm |
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| 22:03.28 | X223x | YAY |
| 22:03.29 | X223x | worked |
| 22:03.30 | X223x | xD |
| 22:03.31 | X223x | tyty |
| 22:06.47 | Grum | ckknight: linkinus ends up being a fail client after all :( |
| 22:06.52 | Grum | it doesnt have proper color support ... |
| 22:07.09 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 22:07.13 | ckknight | so don't use it |
| 22:07.14 | Grum | now is that not really a problem... but it actually strips out parts of text while trying to handle it ... completely breaking it beyond readability |
| 22:07.35 | Skellum | Who is the one who made skillet? |
| 22:07.55 | Grum | ABC <- that was ABC there .. you will only see 'C <-' |
| 22:08.01 | Grum | oh .. in white o.O |
| 22:08.22 | Grum | go select that line i just typed ckknight :P |
| 22:08.46 | ckknight | C <- that was ABC there .. you will only see 'C <-' |
| 22:09.02 | Grum | and i typed: ^KABC <- that was ABC there .. you will only see 'C <-' |
| 22:09.13 | ckknight | hmm |
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| 22:09.21 | Grum | its really broken :) |
| 22:09.24 | ckknight | oh well |
| 22:09.37 | ckknight | it hasn't really been a huge issue for me |
| 22:09.42 | Nizomi | so back to my question from before |
| 22:09.50 | Grum | i also lurk in channels with bots reporting shit in color |
| 22:09.52 | Nizomi | a lib in the libs\ in AutoBar errors, what should i do? :D |
| 22:09.54 | Grum | so its kinda shitty :( |
| 22:09.58 | Grum | and my trial is running out in 2 days .... |
| 22:10.10 | Grum | and there hasnt been an update for 222 days ... :'( |
| 22:10.39 | Grum | Nizomi: upgrade to enGB |
| 22:10.47 | Nizomi | nah |
| 22:11.12 | Nizomi | i don't feel like looking up all the names because people don't know what i'm talking about :p |
| 22:11.12 | Grum | stop using the cursedclient to install your addons .. and uninstall questhelper ... ;D |
| 22:11.13 | Gnarfoz | deDE needs to die |
| 22:11.24 | Dashkal | ooo, new chrome to include greasemonkey (that feature, not the firefox mod itself) http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/09/217229 |
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| 22:11.58 | Grum | if it is not greasemonkey it will likely not easily be popular ... there are huuuuuuuuge databases with GM scripts ... or are they compatible |
| 22:12.01 | Grum | ? |
| 22:12.26 | Gnarfoz | probably reading the link will enlighten you |
| 22:12.37 | Grum | but that would mean work |
| 22:12.46 | Dashkal | Greasemonkey is really just javascript injected into the page. I imagine scripts will work unless they start messing with firefox itself |
| 22:13.15 | Dashkal | (Is that even possible?) |
| 22:13.44 | Grum | yes; you have access to the XUL api inside firefox afaik |
| 22:13.51 | Grum | so you can control the browser from JS |
| 22:14.00 | Dashkal | looks like they're going for actual GM compatability |
| 22:14.18 | Grum | yeah seems like it (not said explicitly) |
| 22:14.26 | Dashkal | But there's no way it'd be reasonable to force Chrome to mimic Firefox's chrome. So scripts of that sort will almost certainly fail |
| 22:14.37 | Dashkal | "These instructions will be updated as the Greasemonkey support in Chromium improves." |
| 22:14.39 | Dashkal | It's planned |
| 22:15.39 | Grum | ah well as long as i cant get webdev toolbar and firebug in that browser i'll never even touch it :) |
| 22:16.14 | Dashkal | I'm sick to death with Firefox's memory use. |
| 22:16.29 | Grum | just kill it regularly ;) |
| 22:16.49 | thul | sounds like a sound solution |
| 22:16.50 | thul | :-P |
| 22:16.52 | Dashkal | I have a gig and a half of ram. Firefox + wow is simply too much |
| 22:17.04 | Shefki | Buy more ram. |
| 22:17.05 | thul | i have 2 gigs, still too much |
| 22:17.07 | Dashkal | Or, you know, get more ram, but then we're being silly :p |
| 22:17.07 | ckknight | I like having 4 gigs |
| 22:17.12 | ckknight | but srsly, buy more ram |
| 22:17.15 | ckknight | it's not that much nowadays |
| 22:17.15 | Shefki | I think I bought another gig for my GF's laptop for $20 |
| 22:17.18 | thul | when i get the rest of my ram back from the store, i'll have 4 |
| 22:17.21 | Shefki | That's freaking laptop memory. |
| 22:17.22 | steev | http://failblog.org/2009/01/08/pen-trick-fail/ |
| 22:17.28 | Dashkal | It's cheap as hell. I'm not because I'm saving for a real upgrade |
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| 22:18.27 | Dashkal | And also because I have no idea what ram I have :p |
| 22:18.33 | Grum | how can you even work with half a gb of ram? seriously |
| 22:18.43 | Grum | open 2 pages with flash and pooof .. byeybe |
| 22:18.48 | Dashkal | "gig and a half" |
| 22:18.55 | Grum | even weirder number! |
| 22:19.01 | Grum | and wow shouldnt take over 700mb |
| 22:19.34 | Dashkal | "shouldn't" != "doesn't" between that and firefox I swap quite a bit. Swapping _very_ bad when I get near dalaran |
| 22:19.45 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03sylvanaar * r20 LibFail-1.0.lua: sartheron->Sartharion |
| 22:20.05 | Repo | 10failboat: 03sylvanaar * r26 FailBoat.lua: sartheron->Sartharion |
| 22:20.13 | Grum | lol what is that? |
| 22:20.18 | Grum | @project libfail-1.0 |
| 22:20.19 | Repo | Grum: No project found that matches 'libfail-1.0' |
| 22:20.33 | Grum | @project failboat |
| 22:20.34 | Repo | Grum: http://www.wowace.com/projects/failboat/. FailBoat. Game: WoW. sylvanaar (Manager/Author). Updated: 11 seconds ago. Tickets: 2/2 |
| 22:21.34 | sylvanaar | @spellid 28801 |
| 22:21.37 | steev | thats awesome |
| 22:21.58 | thul | what are the easy pvp-epix these days? |
| 22:22.02 | thul | and how do i get them? :-P |
| 22:22.05 | thul | i need a slow, hard-hitting 2h :-P |
| 22:22.05 | Grum | it should be failtrain btw ... :p |
| 22:22.10 | NivFreak | good luck |
| 22:22.17 | steev | thul: no epix weapons for honor |
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| 22:22.31 | Grum | >2100 rating orso right? :) |
| 22:22.31 | steev | at least, no level 80 ones |
| 22:22.31 | steev | 2030 |
| 22:22.32 | steev | 2050* |
| 22:22.37 | steev | i thought |
| 22:22.47 | steev | although they are lowering the deadly gear's rating requirement by 100 |
| 22:22.49 | thul | ouch |
| 22:22.52 | thul | stupid :-( |
| 22:22.59 | NivFreak | wtb hit trinket |
| 22:23.02 | NivFreak | 1700 here I come |
| 22:23.02 | thul | i need welfare epix:( |
| 22:23.35 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Ackis * r158 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: Revert + update koKR |
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| 22:24.36 | AckisWork | ~wowspell 28801 |
| 22:24.37 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=28801 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=28801 |
| 22:24.45 | AckisWork | sylvanaar: ^ |
| 22:25.14 | NivFreak | I still don't understand why that's useful :) |
| 22:25.55 | AckisWork | shorter than going to the website for the spell IDs |
| 22:26.00 | AckisWork | and it links them both for you |
| 22:26.12 | AckisWork | so you can see the right data (wowhead) and shitty data (wowdb) |
| 22:26.34 | NivFreak | I just figured it was less work to simply change the ID at the end of the URL :P |
| 22:26.45 | AckisWork | once you get the first URL yes |
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| 22:27.04 | NivFreak | you were doing them back to back yesterday :) |
| 22:27.37 | AckisWork | I kept on losing my url, I was looking up a lot more than just those :P |
| 22:27.44 | AckisWork | there's also wownpc and wowitem I think |
| 22:27.49 | AckisWork | ~wowitem thunderfury |
| 22:27.50 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=thunderfury http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=thunderfury |
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| 22:27.58 | AckisWork | meh |
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| 22:28.35 | NivFreak | so I'm already going to be at ~43K health buffed as a warrior post-3.0.8 |
| 22:28.48 | NivFreak | I wonder how high we're going to inflate stam this xpac |
| 22:28.58 | NivFreak | kara -> sunwell was pretty massive |
| 22:29.09 | NivFreak | like 16 to 23k? |
| 22:29.23 | Grum | i estimated it at ~50k |
| 22:29.28 | Grum | but it will likely be around 60k |
| 22:29.30 | NivFreak | well I assume w'ell hit that |
| 22:29.31 | Grum | before 4.0 |
| 22:29.31 | NivFreak | yea |
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| 22:29.49 | Grum | some items are just scary |
| 22:29.51 | NivFreak | I suspect I'll break 50K in early t9 |
| 22:29.55 | Grum | ~140 sta from a single trinket o.O |
| 22:30.02 | NivFreak | yep |
| 22:30.07 | NivFreak | I love my JC trinket |
| 22:30.14 | NivFreak | and 1 min CD dodge |
| 22:30.16 | Grum | both JC trinkets even :) |
| 22:30.25 | NivFreak | I use the essence of gossemer for the other |
| 22:30.33 | Grum | yeh that one is insane as well |
| 22:30.33 | NivFreak | abosorb shield can be nice |
| 22:30.38 | Gnarfoz | wtb Grid_QuickHealth update for UnitGUID branch of Grid :O |
| 22:31.33 | NeoTron | inscription is kind of blah for a tank (more dodge...) but I picked it because it was nice for DPS |
| 22:31.52 | NivFreak | blacksmithing+JC == win |
| 22:31.55 | Wraithan1 | lame, most of the servers are stilldown |
| 22:32.07 | Mikk | LW wins for tanking tbh |
| 22:32.11 | NivFreak | why |
| 22:32.13 | Mikk | cant beat the stam from the bracer chant |
| 22:32.16 | NivFreak | yes |
| 22:32.18 | NivFreak | you can |
| 22:32.20 | NivFreak | in 3.0.8 |
| 22:32.20 | NeoTron | but doesn't the patch change that? |
| 22:32.23 | NivFreak | base enchant is 40stam |
| 22:32.23 | Grum | what goodies do you get from BS? |
| 22:32.31 | NivFreak | 2 more sockets |
| 22:32.32 | NeoTron | Grum: two extra sockets |
| 22:32.39 | Grum | so that is +48 stam |
| 22:32.43 | NivFreak | until epic gems come out |
| 22:32.56 | NeoTron | ironically once epic gems come out BS gets stronger and JC weaker |
| 22:32.58 | NivFreak | and jewelcrafting gets you 51 over the blue gems |
| 22:33.02 | NivFreak | NeoTron: yea |
| 22:33.07 | Grum | so it will be +60 |
| 22:33.09 | NivFreak | I'm probably going mining after that happens |
| 22:33.11 | NivFreak | dropping JC |
| 22:33.23 | NivFreak | Grum: wrist enchant is 50 over the new one |
| 22:33.30 | NivFreak | mining == 50 |
| 22:33.34 | NivFreak | enchanting == 48 |
| 22:33.39 | NivFreak | blacksmithing == 48/60 |
| 22:33.50 | Grum | and JC is 51? |
| 22:33.51 | NivFreak | JCing == 51/? |
| 22:33.52 | NeoTron | in the end though, it's nice but won't be game changing |
| 22:33.52 | NivFreak | yea |
| 22:33.54 | NeoTron | so use waht you want |
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| 22:34.04 | NivFreak | but here's the thing about JC |
| 22:34.15 | Grum | JC also fills your metagem reqs |
| 22:34.18 | NivFreak | the dragons eyes let me pick up other socket bonuses that I'd skip othewise |
| 22:34.22 | Grum | aye |
| 22:34.25 | NivFreak | and meta yea |
| 22:34.32 | NivFreak | plus the trinket right now is untouchable |
| 22:34.40 | NivFreak | so until some more gear/gems get into play, it's still a no-brainer |
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| 22:34.48 | NeoTron | the metagem (for dps especially) is prety huge |
| 22:34.51 | NivFreak | I suspect it'll get weak near the end of t8 |
| 22:34.52 | Grum | yeah JC+something |
| 22:34.53 | NeoTron | no need to waste slots for blue gems |
| 22:35.08 | NivFreak | same thing for tanks really |
| 22:35.11 | NivFreak | I can keep stacking stam |
| 22:35.13 | Grum | well its not likely that there will be new ring enchants |
| 22:35.23 | Grum | nor more sockets |
| 22:35.30 | NivFreak | blacksmithing gets BETTER with better gems |
| 22:35.34 | NeoTron | I'm losely considering JC over inscription |
| 22:35.38 | Grum | yeah |
| 22:35.43 | Grum | so JC+BS gives you the most |
| 22:35.47 | NeoTron | inscription is not useful for income and just not very useful at all |
| 22:36.03 | NeoTron | I'm keeping alchemy even if it's not optimal because 4 hour flasks is such win >:-) |
| 22:36.06 | Grum | sadly those are the 2 professions the worse to possibly level in the 250-300 and 350-375 range o.O |
| 22:36.23 | NeoTron | didn't the patch fix 350->375 ? |
| 22:36.29 | NeoTron | like for other professions? |
| 22:36.30 | Grum | could be |
| 22:36.37 | Grum | but the lower one i still there |
| 22:36.43 | Grum | and that one gets expensive on the AH |
| 22:36.48 | NeoTron | yep |
| 22:36.56 | Grum | especially JC; you're talking about 50-100g per skillpoint there |
| 22:37.02 | NeoTron | althoguh back in BC it cost me like a few thousand gold to level |
| 22:37.05 | NeoTron | wasn't very bad |
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| 22:37.14 | NeoTron | I have liek 42000 gold not so not exactly an issue |
| 22:37.15 | Grum | aye |
| 22:37.24 | Grum | JC is also an insane moneymaker :) |
| 22:37.26 | Zyndrome | Need roll Zyn won Reins of the Black Drake |
| 22:37.32 | Zyndrome | Zyn of the Nightfall :DDD |
| 22:37.33 | NeoTron | I alraedy have a 445 JC but.. yeah :) |
| 22:37.34 | Grum | gz |
| 22:37.44 | Zyndrome | 10-man Sarth 3 drakes down |
| 22:37.45 | Grum | JC is so cheap to max out |
| 22:37.47 | Zyndrome | hoooleeee shiiiit |
| 22:37.53 | NeoTron | ironically I'd pass on the drake probably |
| 22:37.59 | Grum | ~750g for the last 25pts :) |
| 22:38.04 | NeoTron | prot drake > any normal drake |
| 22:38.45 | NeoTron | inscription: can make cards (whee?), and glyphs that sell for 5g on the AH :P |
| 22:39.13 | Gnarfoz | and doesn't have to do sons of hodir rep |
| 22:39.24 | NeoTron | yeah that's the one thing I'd do first.. |
| 22:39.26 | Gnarfoz | whee. fucking usless, I'm debating getting rid of it |
| 22:39.28 | NeoTron | finish the grind |
| 22:39.30 | Zyndrome | NeoTron , I got the time-lost proto drake ;P |
| 22:39.35 | Zyndrome | < lucky asshole |
| 22:39.39 | NeoTron | Zyndrome: indeed |
| 22:39.40 | Gnarfoz | Zyndrome: lucky asshole indeed |
| 22:39.43 | Grum | i dropped a maxxed out inscription |
| 22:39.48 | Grum | its so bloody useless |
| 22:39.48 | NeoTron | but why would you want a drake if you got a proto drake? I don't comprehend! |
| 22:39.49 | Zyndrome | and get server first 10-man drake |
| 22:39.51 | Zyndrome | harr harr |
| 22:40.01 | NeoTron | Grum: for dps it's 60 extra AP |
| 22:40.10 | Grum | yes lolkekbur |
| 22:40.13 | NeoTron | Grum: the extra dodge, esp with diminishing returns, do not excite |
| 22:40.18 | Grum | o.O |
| 22:43.09 | X223x | Is thera anyway I can Config SBF so 1 Bar shows BUFFS and 1 DEBUFS? |
| 22:43.59 | AckisWork | NeoTron: I think proto drakes look ugly? |
| 22:44.15 | Grum | they look awesomely mean! |
| 22:44.33 | dodga | they look fugly as hell :P |
| 22:44.43 | NeoTron | they are the awesomest ever |
| 22:45.12 | dodga | if by awesome you mean shitty, then yes :> |
| 22:45.29 | AckisWork | my rocket is awesome |
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| 22:45.38 | dodga | No details plox :> |
| 22:46.04 | X223x | Any1 Know I can config so Satrinas Buffbar so 1 show buffs and 1 debuffS? |
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| 22:55.34 | Hirsute-Exile | X223x: I don't know, but have you checked its site? http://evilempireguild.org/SBF/ |
| 22:56.37 | steev | huh |
| 22:56.42 | steev | X223x: what do you mean? |
| 23:00.09 | Wraithan1 | ~alert |
| 23:00.10 | purl | I'm falling asleep listening to you boring morons... |
| 23:00.26 | Trell- | im keeping inscription just in case |
| 23:00.31 | Trell- | they add something sexy as hell from raids |
| 23:00.37 | Trell- | im keeping my fingers crossed >< |
| 23:00.39 | Nizomi | finding a song with sakura in its name sucks |
| 23:00.48 | Nizomi | you look for it and there are like thousands |
| 23:00.48 | Nizomi | :/ |
| 23:01.30 | Trell- | maxed out JC and like 3 points from max inscription |
| 23:02.39 | Grum | its so useless to max out professions atm |
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| 23:06.50 | onaforeignshore | how do you summon a paladin mount from a macro? Thalassian Charger |
| 23:07.04 | Repo | 10nauticus: 03Drool * r122 NautCore.lua: - bump internal version number (i'm a nubcake) |
| 23:07.06 | Shefki | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:07.09 | onaforeignshore | tried /use /cast with and without (), nothing worked |
| 23:08.31 | Repo | 10nauticus: 03Drool 043.0.5 * r123 : Tagging as 3.0.5 |
| 23:10.10 | Xinhuan | i just had the strangest ever Wintergrasp |
| 23:10.14 | Xinhuan | let me show you a screenshot |
| 23:10.45 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/wintergrasp.jpg |
| 23:12.02 | Xinhuan | we were attacking as alliance |
| 23:12.18 | Xinhuan | we lost, then we won, then we got 1 token, it didn't count towards the win WG quest or achievement |
| 23:12.28 | Xinhuan | but it swapped factions to alliance anyway |
| 23:16.41 | vrak | what's the spell on button 2 ? |
| 23:18.55 | thul | http://www.extremerestraints.com/images/huge-dildos-491x221_v2.jpg |
| 23:18.59 | nuoHep | barrage |
| 23:19.23 | Dashkal | nobody to blame but myself... read url before clicking... |
| 23:19.38 | thul | haha |
| 23:19.40 | thul | yeah... |
| 23:19.52 | thul | i thought that "huge dildos" made it unfit for nsfw-marking :-P |
| 23:20.20 | ckknight | thul: I don't get how it fits |
| 23:20.27 | thul | hahaha |
| 23:20.29 | thul | me neither. |
| 23:20.33 | Shefki | thul: nsfw = not safe for work. |
| 23:20.44 | Shefki | So umm I'd hope it would be nsfw if there are huge dildos. |
| 23:20.54 | Dashkal | Oh no, I blame myself on this one. "dildos" kinda implies nsfw there |
| 23:21.07 | viisual | What if I work at a web design company that hosts porn sites, sfw? |
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| 23:23.47 | ckknight | Zenom: answer to viisual's question? |
| 23:24.12 | Zenom | lol |
| 23:24.59 | viisual | Shit, i just got all the programmers I work with banned from #define |
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| 23:25.51 | Torhal | onaforeignshore: Get Squire. It does all that. And if you don't want to use it, you'll at least see how it's done. |
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| 23:28.57 | Wobin | viisual: did you get sitebanned? =P |
| 23:29.16 | viisual | =D |
| 23:29.41 | viisual | No I just can't use define('two', 1+1) anymore, they didn't find it funny. |
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| 23:31.46 | Xinhuan | can you think of another word for "scripting"? |
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| 23:32.03 | Zhinjio | shell programming? |
| 23:32.16 | Gnarfoz | context. |
| 23:32.24 | Xinhuan | context is in writing mob AI |
| 23:32.29 | dodga | executing programs through an interpreter? :> |
| 23:32.45 | ckknight | viisual: what'd you do? |
| 23:33.23 | Antiarc | I would say yeah, scripting is writing interpreted programs |
| 23:33.25 | viisual | used a define in a module |
| 23:33.29 | Antiarc | Compared to writing compiled programs |
| 23:33.49 | ckknight | viisual: hmm |
| 23:34.01 | Xinhuan | i just want another word that isn't "scripting" lol |
| 23:34.06 | Xinhuan | but has the same meaning |
| 23:34.24 | many | batch processing |
| 23:34.26 | viisual | Yea, not sure I did anything actually wrong, but I found it funny =P |
| 23:34.30 | many | ouch |
| 23:35.28 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: "code" :> |
| 23:35.47 | Xinhuan | whoa |
| 23:37.01 | onaforeign|Zzz | night everyone |
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