IRC log for #wowace on 20090108

00:00.00SkellumWell, either I just built my first comp or this things going to explode in a hail of shrapnel and kill me when I turn it on.
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00:02.52Fisker-some motherboards also have onboard connectors for chassis fans
00:03.08SkellumIt all works :3, time to actualy set it up
00:03.09Fisker-Aeyan it's not about the compatibility
00:03.12SkellumBe are be...long while
00:03.21Fisker-It's about buying a new PSU to get a new connector that i didn't need
00:03.31AeyanAh
00:03.45AeyanI figured you upgraded the PSU as well
00:05.07Fisker-Old one was "fine"
00:05.31Fisker-Probably not the most efficient and stable PSU given the advances done since i bought it :P
00:05.36Fisker-but it works and has powar
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00:16.22NeoTronspeaking of malygos I find it stupid that the quest rewards a tank necklace not usable by two of the 4 tank classes
00:18.11WobWorkwhat's it got? block?
00:19.26NivFreakNeoTron: it's usable ;)
00:19.30NivFreakand yea, it has block rating
00:19.42NivFreakNeoTron: to be fair, I don't like to see block rating on my gear either :P
00:19.53NivFreakit's probably my least desired stat
00:23.23NeoTronobviously equippable but the block rating on there isn't useful
00:23.38NeoTronit went from 2 out of 3 tanks to 2 out of 4 needing it
00:24.04NeoTronit's almost as bad as feral ap now
00:24.17NeoTronand in my guild it is (1 warrior, 1 druid, 1 dk tank)
00:24.51NivFreakreally it's like 1/4 tanks needing it :)
00:25.04NivFreakand who brings prot pallies to raids now days anyway?
00:25.05NeoTronpallies and warriors = 2
00:25.12NeoTronpeople that have prot pallies?
00:25.12NivFreakI don't want block rating on my shit :P
00:25.30NeoTronblock has very good uses, even if it's perhaps situational
00:25.55NeoTronI mean it's a threat stat even
00:26.17NeoTronin either case, block rting should just go away
00:26.31NeoTronmake it depend on other stats instead like block value does on strength
00:26.49NivFreakblock rating is not a threat stat
00:27.04NivFreakit's a mitigation stat
00:27.13NeoTronisn't damage shield triggered by blocking or does it reflect all hits?
00:27.28NivFreakall dmg
00:27.44NivFreakWhenever you take damage from or block a melee attack you cause damage equal to 20% of your block value.
00:27.46NeoTronok lame then
00:27.52NivFreakwe don't really want it :P
00:27.54NivFreakI mean it's not bad
00:27.56NivFreakit's mitigation
00:28.07CodayusVery very weak mitigation.  :-(
00:28.08NivFreakand for aoe tanking it's nice
00:28.10NivFreakbut it never matters
00:28.21NivFreakI'm almost always better off in a high EH set
00:28.26NeoTronso even more reason to take it away
00:28.48NivFreakif they really want us to share gear
00:28.53NivFreakthey should take all BV/BR off
00:29.05NivFreakboost the strength on the items
00:29.21NivFreakand then just give prot pallies an alternate way to generate BR
00:29.48NivFreakI really dislike the DRs on avoidance btw
00:29.52ckknightthe Koreans are slacking: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/localization/
00:30.20NivFreakbeing forced to do math on a drop to figure out if it's an upgrade, and having that change depending on the set of gear you're using == lame
00:30.47NivFreakNeoTron: but hey, even with the BR
00:30.49NivFreakthat neck is hot
00:30.50NivFreakso much stam
00:33.01NivFreakI'm 35K self buffed now, and almost 42.5K buffed
00:33.06NivFreakso much fun
00:33.39GnarfozOP!
00:33.44NeoTronhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=40387 sitting with that me
00:37.26Repo10grid-status-raid-icons: 03Azethoth * r32 / (2 files in 1 directory): -- Ninja alpha commit.
00:37.28Repo-- Compatible with the Grid guid branch only.
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00:45.58Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r340 modules/HungerForBlood.lua:
00:46.01Repo- fix for HfB text staying on the screen after the buff has timed out (Thanks Tunde!)
00:50.41Fisker-Yeah NivFreak
00:50.48Fisker-Blizzard should learn2set imo
00:51.11Fisker-Should be pretty obvious what would be "best in slot"
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00:54.04Camcilol http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9792/beboprofilenameszc7.jpg
00:58.24Repo10buttonfacade: 03StormFX * r202 Libs/LibButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade.lua:
00:58.27Repo- Apply a fix for borderless skins (Dreamlayout, Blizzard, etc). (flickerstreak)
00:59.11Camciis there an addon that tells you if you have a fish hooked on yuor pole?
00:59.39WobWorkCamci: no
01:00.23Camcijeez then ill never skill up fishing, cba to wathc a fucking hook all day long
01:00.34WobWorkwelcome to WoW
01:01.17Repo10buttonfacade: 03StormFX 043.0.202 * r203 : Tagging as 3.0.202
01:02.57Droolare you even able to pull fish from the water if the float hasn't twinged yet?
01:03.03WobWorkno
01:07.12Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r167 / (13 files in 2 directories): RaidBuffStatus:
01:07.14Repo- Fixed weapon buffing for Shamans without dual wield.
01:07.17Repo- Removed some files that were accidentally committed at some point.
01:13.38AeyanWoo, Tabard of the Achiever
01:15.42Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r168 Core.lua: RaidBuffStatus:
01:15.44Repo- Fixed dual wield talent.
01:18.21NivFreakso any raiding boomkins around?
01:30.36RaydenUi can't beat Thrusting Hodir's Spear
01:30.39RaydenUany tips?
01:30.51NivFreakthe dragon one?
01:31.18gixRaydenU: what goes wrong?
01:31.21amoebaYou just need to read the quest text very closely.
01:32.04RaydenUi die at the end
01:32.08RaydenUi don't have enough health
01:32.14RaydenUphase 2
01:32.37amoebaAre you not getting to use Fatal Strike?
01:32.45RaydenUi was
01:32.48RaydenUi don't get enough buffs
01:32.53NivFreakhere's what I do
01:32.58NivFreakworks 100% of the time
01:33.05NivFreakspear drake, use the big strike (4?)
01:33.18NivFreakspam grip (1) until I have ~100 grip
01:33.33NivFreakuse the small dmg attacak (3) then grip (1) until the big strike (4) is off CD
01:33.37NivFreakhit 4 again asap
01:33.42NivFreakdodge if I can when he strikes
01:33.46NivFreakif not, oh well
01:34.02NivFreakwhen you get to p2 of the fight, just pry once, then strike
01:34.08WobWorkalso, I hear that the damage taken is a percentage of your health
01:34.09NivFreakthen reapply pry until strike is off CD
01:34.13NivFreakusually i get it on 1 pry
01:34.13RaydenUthere we go
01:34.15RaydenUi figured out the dodge
01:34.17NivFreaksometimes it takes 2 CDs
01:34.18WobWorkand not mitigated by armour
01:34.24WobWorkso you can remove all your gear =P
01:34.25NivFreakyea, it's a percent
01:34.40WobWorkso if you do die, you don't lose any durability
01:34.43RaydenUwowhead says dodge when he claws, then right after hit $
01:34.44RaydenU4
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01:34.49RaydenUyeah i got naked
01:34.51Gngsksnowfall lager worksk too
01:34.52gixWobWork: and lose a huge chunk of stamina?
01:34.54Gngskif you don't wanna corpse run
01:35.01WobWorkgix: It's a percentage
01:35.03gixoh wait
01:35.04gixyeah
01:35.05NivFreakRaydenU: honestly, if you use my method you don't even have to dodge
01:35.05Gngskgix, it's .001% of your health
01:35.05RaydenUoh nice
01:35.06WobWorkYou'll lose that much anyway =)
01:35.06RaydenU500
01:35.16RaydenUwhy don't you dodge?
01:35.22NivFreakbecause it dies so fast
01:35.27NivFreakI do if it's off CD
01:35.37RaydenUbut dodge only works on the claw
01:35.38Arrowmasterheres what i do
01:35.42RaydenUwhy does it die so fast?
01:35.44Arrowmasterim a warlock and cast fel armor
01:35.44NivFreakand every time I use the big strike or dodge, I spam grip back to ~100 before I do anything else
01:35.46Arrowmasterwin
01:35.53NivFreakArrowmaster: lol
01:36.02NivFreakRaydenU: just use 4 on every CD
01:36.05NivFreakwithout hesitating
01:36.08NivFreakand you'll be fine
01:36.09Arrowmasteri always get to 20 stacks in p2
01:36.16NivFreakArrowmaster: I get to 1-5
01:36.20NivFreakbefore he dies
01:36.39NivFreakpry once, strike, pry until CD for strike is up, strike again
01:36.43NivFreakrepeat as needed
01:36.45RaydenUi got to 12 or so
01:37.03NivFreakone CD?
01:37.10RaydenUno
01:37.13NivFreakdeath?
01:37.14RaydenU3rd or 4th hit
01:37.17RaydenUwhen i killed it
01:37.32NivFreakit's somewhat random, I assume more prying gives you a better chance
01:37.41RaydenUyeah
01:37.42NivFreakbut really, since I started doing this method, I've never ended with < 60% health
01:37.42RaydenUit's a chance
01:37.44RaydenU5% each
01:37.46RaydenUwhat is the base?
01:37.54NivFreakbase health?
01:38.05NivFreakor base chance?
01:38.09RaydenUbase chance
01:38.10gix0
01:38.11RaydenUto kill
01:38.15NivFreakit has to be 0
01:38.25NivFreakbecause you can't even strike without one pry
01:38.40NivFreakthe p1 stuff is the important part though
01:38.48NivFreakif you don't use '4' every CD, you will have problems
01:38.57gixnot if you dodge
01:38.59NivFreakI made the mistake of trying to dodge then use the big strike
01:39.04NivFreakgix: there's an enrage timer :P
01:39.09gixi usually have 100% hp after p1
01:39.35NivFreakif you get back over the hodir camp in p1, your grip decays faster than you can apply it
01:39.39NivFreakand he drops you to your death
01:39.45NivFreakI landed on the spear once luckily
01:39.45NivFreaklol
01:40.32Arrowmasteri tend to wait until i use 2 then use 4
01:40.36RaydenUas a druid it's better to fall than to get killed
01:40.46gixArrowmaster: exactly.
01:40.49RaydenUif you use 2, and then immediatley use 4, does it get rid of the buff?
01:40.52RaydenUor do you still dodge?
01:40.54Arrowmasterno
01:40.56Arrowmasterstill dodge
01:41.16Arrowmasteri have noticed the raidwarning frame is crap though
01:41.29Arrowmasterand gets shit out of order at times
01:41.42NivFreakyea
01:41.43NivFreaklol
01:41.53gixNivFreak: i usually use it to get back from the cave and time it so i finish it right over niffelem and hand everything in
01:41.59NivFreakArrowmaster: I was waiting to use 4 until after 2, but I was having dps issues
01:42.06Arrowmastertempted to resurect ImprovedRWF and have it make a real scrolling frame as a raidframe
01:42.06NivFreakmy new way is 100% success rate
01:42.08NivFreakwithout any bumps
01:42.12NivFreakI don't even have to dodge
01:42.15NivFreakbut I still do when I can
01:42.46NivFreakalso, I've had back to back swipes
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01:42.57NivFreakwhere I would dodge/strike and then would need to dodge and it was on CD
01:43.05NivFreakplus, it's a daily
01:43.08NivFreakfaster == better
01:45.33RaydenUwhen stuff procs i have over 8100ap
01:46.10RaydenU8700!
01:47.28quiescensnot good enough!
01:48.22NivFreakjebus
01:48.33NivFreakI'm just happy to get close to 4000ap tanking
01:48.54NivFreakthe greatness trinket is fun to tank with
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01:49.59RaydenUdruid cats have so much ap though
01:50.12RaydenU5200 buffed
01:50.14RaydenU5 man
01:50.28thuli would love to have 4000-5000 unbuffed on my dk
01:51.16thuli dread leveling my rogue and paladin. i just don't get why :-P the pala is ok i guess, i could just fit him with a healer-plate set and just roll on dps-gear until i get nice dps-gear, then dps my way into heaven.
01:51.16NivFreakI hope I see a last laugh soon
01:51.22NivFreakI'm growing tired of tanking with a slow weapon
01:51.31NivFreakalthough pretty crits are fun sometimes
01:51.33thulbut why are people bringing rogues to raids these days? for sap only?
01:51.47NivFreakthul: HaT
01:51.55thulnot tricks of the trade?
01:51.58WobWorkHaT?
01:52.01NivFreakthreat what?
01:52.10WobWorkoh god, it's been so long since I played my rogue =(
01:52.11NivFreakhonor among thieves
01:52.24thuli ahve not plaid him at all almost, since wotlk.
01:52.42NivFreakI don't play a rogue, so excuse me if I'm not exactly right on how it works
01:52.46thulhe is just so fragile to level compared to the dk :-(
01:52.52NivFreakbut HaT gives you 3cp every time someone in your party crits
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01:53.05NivFreakand apparently it's bugged so that you get extra cps from other HaT rouges in group
01:53.07thulone combopoint?
01:53.10WobWorkjust one
01:53.11thulnot three?
01:53.16thulbut yeah, bugged.
01:53.22NivFreakso they are doing insane dmg
01:53.24NivFreak:)
01:53.30NivFreakalthough still not fury warrior level dmg
01:53.35thulwell, that is just it
01:53.37WobWorkbladestorm lol
01:53.45thulfury warriors have plate, survive more and.. stuff
01:53.47thuland dks
01:54.04NivFreakmy fury warrior did 8K on thaddius, another fury warrior did 11.3K on thaddius
01:54.04WobWorkDeathchill + Howling blast lol
01:54.04NivFreaklol
01:54.10thuldks can off-tank pretty much anything for 2-3 seconds if needed, and all specs have taunt, and they do aoe damage and they do great dps
01:54.22WobWorkyus
01:54.26thuland they heal the raid, and selfheal..
01:54.36WobWorkwell that's all spec situational
01:54.41thuland they buff with ap and attack speed (and/all)
01:54.50WobWorkagain spec situational
01:54.54thulwell, all specs have taunt, but frost is better on the directed aoe, i guess.
01:55.04NivFreakyou know why we bring rogues?
01:55.04WobWorkyeah
01:55.10WobWorkcomic relief?
01:55.11thulNivFreak: no? :-P
01:55.13NivFreakless 2Hers needed to gear the raid :P
01:55.16thulhaha
01:55.17thultrue
01:55.18WobWorktruedat
01:55.21NivFreakseriously
01:55.33thuli'm working to get the epic HoL 2h
01:55.35WobWorkexcept the DW Frost/unholy DKs are outdpsing everyone =P
01:55.36NivFreakwe have an arms warrior, fury warrior, 2 unholy DKs, and a ret paladin
01:55.44NivFreakyea, one of our DKs is doing the DW thing now
01:55.47NivFreakit seems to work great on some fights
01:55.50thulno frost dks? :-(
01:55.50NivFreakand lose to 2H on others
01:55.54thulwith 2h? :-(
01:56.02WobWork<- me
01:56.18thulhttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Argent+Dawn&n=Nyxos
01:56.24NivFreakbut yea, we need 6 2Hers to gear our melee
01:56.28NivFreakand I also have 2-3 rogues
01:56.31WobWorkI need to stop logging out in my dps gear =P
01:56.55thulhehe
01:57.18thulthat is my general gear :-P
01:57.24thuli pupmp up the defence to tank 5-ans
01:57.25thulmans
01:57.31thulno heoric tanking yet thouhg
01:57.32thulheroic
01:57.42NivFreakand and I forgot my enh shaman
01:58.01thulach, my ench is at 70, my pala at 65 :-P
01:58.04thuli just cba to level stuff
01:58.10thulconsidering loaning my brother my account :-P
01:58.10NivFreakgod I want to find lossendi
01:58.14NivFreakand stab him in the face
01:58.19thulhe would be overjoyus to level my stuff
01:58.26thullossendi?
01:58.39NivFreakWWS
01:59.15thulwell, off to bed!
01:59.19thulsleeeeeeeep
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02:31.35ShefkiIs it just me or did Blizzard screw up Malygos with the maintenance?
02:31.52ShefkiHe was just attacking our tank melee in Phase 2.
02:31.58ShefkiNobody could target him.
02:32.00ShefkiBut he was.
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02:32.47quiescensa wizard did it
02:33.15quiescensI wouldn't be surprised if they did break something there's like a restart planned isn't there?
02:33.20Repo10ora2: 037destiny * r648 Leader/Item.lua: koKR Update
02:33.52Shefkiquiescens: Where'd you see that?
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02:40.50ArrowmasterShefki: you entered phase2 as he was about to do a vortex, that happens
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02:50.05ShefkiArrowmaster: Hmm didn't think so but interesting.
02:50.17ShefkiHe came down about half way during Phase 2.
02:50.34Shefkiwe had the lords dead and then he just came down and starting attacking our tank.
02:56.55Mikkoh you had that too
02:57.36Mikkand thanks for that tidbit of info arrowmaster
02:57.43Mikkwe'll try avoiding that then :o)
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03:11.51Stanzillahttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/14274447372-hotfix-talent-issue.html damn >.<
03:24.46Jyggaso the "pallly needs no hit" days are over eh? ^^
03:25.25Jyggamy totemic mastery was also quite usefull 8/
03:26.06quiescenswas that the range one?
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03:33.09Repo- Opps for having lib references still in Glory-3.0
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03:53.40Aens|Superiorityis there a way with parrot to make it stop spamming unleashed rage, rampage and whatever the BM hunter buff's name was.
03:55.21Arrowmasteradd them to the filters?
03:57.21Aens|Superioritythe filter options only give a numeric value
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04:08.25Arrowmasterthey do?
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04:17.11ZhinjioTekkub: <3
04:17.20ZhinjioAckis: pong
04:17.44Tekkubwut
04:18.11Zhinjiothanks for adding metas to panda
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04:31.53ZhinjioTekkub: I anxiously await your next push.
04:32.10ShotAnyone know what Ethereal Oil is?
04:35.38quiescensI don't think there's anything further yet
04:36.51quiescensI know that the highest level alchemy recipe etc is like 435, with nothing at all to learn between 435 and 450, and nothing at 450 itself either
04:36.55quiescenslol
04:37.22quiescensanyway, noone knows anything about the supposed ethereal oil yet
04:43.32ShotS
04:43.50Shothmm, didn't mean to press enter then.
04:44.26ShotI was going to ask if it was actually on the PTR for an alchemist to test, or if it was in patch notes but not there yet
04:50.44RaydenUso i just tanked oculus
04:50.48RaydenUi ahd two DPS DK's
04:50.54RaydenUthey both wanted to roll on the tanking ring that dropped
04:55.28WobWork><
04:55.50WobWorkOf course, I would have tried the same... but I'd've stated upfront that I'd roll on it =P
04:56.17RaydenUyeah they both passed on tanking at the beginning
04:56.18RaydenUso  i tanked
04:56.52WobWorkoh in that case
04:56.54WobWorkscrew em
04:57.03RaydenUi explained to them it was common etiquette to not roll on off specs because you "might tank in naxx"
04:57.13RaydenUthey weren't specced for tanking
04:57.16RaydenUblood and unholy
04:57.18WobWorkI'd be dpsing because the tank was a better one
04:57.20WobWorker
04:57.24WobWorkunholy can tank fine
04:57.31WobWorkI was an unholy tank
04:57.34RaydenUhe might have been the 78
04:57.38WobWork(then switched to frost at 80)
04:57.41RaydenUor said he didn't have gear or something
04:57.45RaydenUboth said they coudn't tank
04:57.54WobWorkyeah, in that case, screw 'em
04:59.48RaydenUthe thing is
05:00.03RaydenUas a druid who is willing to dps so the prot warrior can tank, i'd still want to roll on tanky stuff
05:00.40WobWorkyeah
05:00.47WobWorkbut you'd state upfront that, wouldn't you?
05:01.26RaydenUprobably
05:01.33RaydenUif i forgot and they complained i'd probably pass
05:01.35RaydenUand shed a tear
05:01.45RaydenUor argue that that item is really much better for druids :D
05:02.36ThraeRaydenU: No, the Warrior needs the bow more for autoshoot...wait, what item are we talking about again?
05:02.37amoebaAny NeedToKnow users in here?
05:04.23Repo10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r35 / (3 files in 1 directory): Truncate all auction queries to 63 bytes.
05:04.24WobWorkahah
05:04.25RepoFixes disconnect bug reported by Vamprik.
05:05.53WobWorkI remember when our warrior tank dkp"d a bow in zg
05:06.03WobWorkover all the hunters
05:07.31RaydenUThrae it was a tanking ring
05:07.34RaydenUhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=43250#comments
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06:49.36Groktarhttp://images01.plus613.net/9/8/1/4/www_plus613_net_chef000.jpg
06:50.39doom0ro.o
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06:51.32SkellumI built my first computer :D, I feel special!
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06:54.10ckknighthey all
06:54.12ckknightNSFW: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1231396478494.jpg
06:54.36Groktarhey ckknight
06:54.37Groktarhttp://images01.plus613.net/9/8/1/4/www_plus613_net_chef000.jpg
06:54.41ckknighthey Groktar
06:54.47Groktarand your link no workie for me
06:54.48ckknightweird
06:54.54ckknightaw, lame
06:54.57ckknightit just went 404
06:55.00Groktarya :(
06:56.38Skellum404 :(
06:56.41SkellumWhat was it?
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07:01.56SkellumI always forget this, how do I restore my old mozilla profile?
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07:13.29Repo10o-uf_debuff-highlight: 03Ammo * r43 oUF_DebuffHighlight.lua: shamans can apparantly remove curse too
07:17.42robotuschshoots Fisker-
07:17.50robotuschthere, hope hell is warmer for you ;)
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07:59.10sb|workmorning
07:59.18Brunersmorning
08:01.03Repo10proculas: 03Xocide * r123 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added the option to change the Cooldown Bars color.
08:06.18Repo10muf: 03vaeyl * r12 / (2 files in 1 directory): changed addon structure
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08:08.29Bruners[Ammo]: that CP change you did is working ?
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08:13.07[Ammo]Bruners: that what change?
08:13.17[Ammo]Bruners: for malygos? yeah sure is working
08:14.31Repo10barrel: 03copystring * r49 / (2 files in 1 directory): Barrel:
08:14.34Repo- fix button hiding/showing (requires to reset the profile to make this version work)
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08:15.15[Ammo]Bruners: you can test it by doing Aces High!
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08:18.30Groktarhuggles
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08:42.38doom0rhmmm, to macaroon or not
08:43.40doom0rwtf was blizz thinking not upping the pet bar slot count
08:48.18Skellumdoom0r, seen "The Avengers"?
08:48.31doom0rno
08:48.39SkellumAlso, wtf was blizzard thinking not fixing the ebon plague bug
08:48.43SkellumAt least they got SE
08:55.28Wobinebon plague bug?
08:57.14mitch0my 'm' problem is related to .inputrc, if anyone cares
08:58.22SkellumWobin, only 1 unholy DK can have their ebonplague up at a time
08:58.56Wobinoh
08:59.01WobinIs that a bug?
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09:01.04CodayusWobin: Bug, poor design decision...six of one, or half a dozen of the other.
09:01.23doom0rpunts Codayus
09:01.30doom0ri hate that saying
09:01.37CodayusIt's slated to change so that every unholy DK can benefit from ebon plague, but it hasn't happened *yet*.  :-/
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09:04.52Repo10simple-soulstone: 03vaeyl * r56 / (2 files in 1 directory): added zhTW localization
09:04.55SkellumThey fixed SE
09:04.59SkellumWhich was in the same state
09:05.04SkellumI imagine they will fix ebon plague
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09:11.47Groktarwohoo 4732 against a target dummy over 5.5 minutes!
09:11.50Groktar(the level 60 one)
09:11.59Groktar<PROTECTED>
09:14.09Brunersclass?
09:21.04Groktarwarrior
09:21.17Groktari'm usually around 2300 or so on the heroic
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10:08.50RepoXinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/simple-soulstone/. SimpleSoulstone. Game: WoW. vaeyl (Manager/Author). Updated: 62 minutes ago
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10:37.33doom0rTem: LibExtraTip doesn't like the pet spell book
10:44.40theoddone33EJ bothers me
10:44.52theoddone33"it should be easy to reach 4k dps" for a mage, they say
10:45.09theoddone33maybe so but I don't really break 3500 much
10:45.47Arrowmasterover half the people on that forum dont know shit and are just there trying to leech off the others
10:45.57theoddone33that's what I'm trying to do
10:46.12theoddone33but I see them putting together "optimal gearsets" and labeling them 6k dps
10:46.23theoddone33it's... sad
10:46.37theoddone33especially since I've made a lot of bad choices if I go by their thinking
10:46.50Arrowmasterlikely a spreadsheet number, which you wont ever get close to in practice
10:47.01theoddone33yeah
10:47.19Arrowmasterespecially since everybody calculates dps differently
10:47.40theoddone33I need to figure out if there's something I should change though
10:47.56theoddone33I saw a recount where a mutilate rogue in my guild did 3900dps on a 25 man archevon
10:48.05theoddone33I did it in a differnet  raid last night and did just over 3k
10:48.13theoddone33I should be higher than a rogue, so I dunno what' sup
10:48.16theoddone33could just be gear
10:48.21Arrowmastermaybe
10:49.06theoddone33spending the next few days leveling better professions :(
10:49.19theoddone33I didn't realize how overpowered JCing was
10:49.54theoddone33people that have to use the 3% crit damage meta tend to have problems filling the requirements since blue gems suck
10:50.12theoddone33but JCers get the prismatics that not only are awesome but meet the blue gem requirement, or at least that's what I'm told
10:50.43thulespecially melee classes have problems with the dps-stuff at EJ, beacause you move, a lot. your dps suffers from it.
10:51.01thulboth my dk and my rogue :7
10:51.21theoddone33moving around is pretty hard on mages
10:51.51Trell-theoddone33; if it's any consolation, our mages are having trouble matching their 'in practice' numbers up to the 'in theory numbers'
10:51.52thuli have never plaid a caster more than my shaman as elemental a few runs in ubrs :-P
10:52.03Pkekyo|When you're married, you want to kill your spouse. When you're single, you want to kill yourself. Better her than me!
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10:52.27theoddone33Trell-: yeah
10:52.34theoddone33I'm mostly sad because I was leading t he guild in dps
10:52.37Pkekyo|thul: nublet
10:52.43theoddone33then they all caught up/passed me in gear
10:52.47theoddone33now I'm like 6th or 7th every raid
10:52.47doom0rPkekyo|: no, being single is great
10:53.03theoddone33even though my class should be on top
10:53.08thulPkekyo|: pfft :-P
10:53.23Pkekyo|doom0r: keep telling yourself that, maybe it'll become true one day :p
10:53.26Pkekyo|thul: yeswai
10:53.39doom0r?
10:53.46thulPkekyo|: yeah, but no, but yeah, but no, but yeah!
10:53.55Pkekyo|:D
10:53.57doom0rnot everyone has some demented urge to drag themself through hell
10:54.28Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Elkano * r124 / (9 files in 8 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
10:54.31Repo[dataminer] various fixes
10:54.33Repo[dataminer] reordered handlers, merged some to fix potential bugs
10:54.36Repo[Gear.Socketed] added Off Hand & Trinket
10:54.37doom0ri see no benefit other than extra income
10:54.39Repo[Tradeskill.Gem.Cut] now with all data (used to hit wowhead's 200 limit )
10:55.47Xinhuansarth3d down with NO PRIESTS FUCK YEAH
10:55.59sacarascgrats Xinhuan
10:56.00theoddone33nice
10:56.01Arrowmasterhow the fuck
10:56.04sacarascdid you get the dragon?
10:56.10thulwtf?
10:56.15Arrowmasteri call bs
10:56.21Xinhuanbrb uploading screenshot
10:56.25Arrowmasterhow did you do it without abusing guardian spirit
10:56.28Xinhuani'll show u
10:56.41theoddone33maxdps makes me angry... I abused our loot system to win an item it said was best in slot, but there are items it doesn't have in its stupid loot table and one of them is better, so I screwed some priests out of their best in slot
10:56.53doom0rmaxdps blows
10:57.04sb|worklol theoddone33  :p
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10:57.11Arrowmasteryeah that site is perty bad
10:57.14theoddone33it's still a pro helm
10:57.24theoddone33but meh
10:57.26sb|workgiev malygos head :/
10:57.36sb|workits best in slot for priest :p
10:57.43theoddone33yeah that's the one, heh
10:57.49Xinhuanhttp://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/sarth3ddown.jpg
10:58.00sb|workso you are lock or mage?
10:58.02theoddone33not sure why maxdps is bad, loot aggregation sites are quite useful but only if they include all the loot!
10:58.12theoddone33mage
10:58.13ArrowmasterXinhuan: i see a priest
10:58.14KalrothXinhuan: weeks behind! (grats :)
10:58.17Xinhuanthe only priest in there (see raid frames) is shadow spec
10:58.18Xinhuani.e no GS
10:58.40sb|worktheoddone33: we also have 2 mages with that head
10:58.41KalrothI think Arrowmaster is referring to the exploit :p
10:58.49Xinhuanfeel free to armory
10:58.53sb|workbecause it is BiS for mage i think
10:58.55Xinhuanshe is (yes a girl) shadow
10:59.02theoddone33gothik25 drops best in slot :(
10:59.09sb|workhaha, you said girl in wow! :o
10:59.17theoddone33not that I ever get to do naxx because they raid that while I'm at work
10:59.18KalrothAnd you don't need a priest for Sarth25+3 if your druids knows how to torment dance
10:59.20Xinhuanthere's 3 girls in our raid actually
10:59.47Arrowmasterso is that 22 titles now?
10:59.47KalrothXin is one of them
10:59.49Cheadsactually our Guild leader is a 63 year old woman
10:59.55XinhuanArrowmaster, you can also see Recount in the bottom right corner lol, #14 on dps ;p
11:00.02SunTsuOur guildleader is a girl, for the 2nd time, now
11:00.29theoddone33no girls in our guild anymore
11:00.30Bruners63 year old ?
11:00.34Arrowmastersome of your raid members have scary low max hp
11:00.45Arrowmaster14k on a warlock?
11:00.46CheadsBruners yeah
11:00.48theoddone33we had one from <risen>-illidan but she went off to raid with them
11:00.55Stanzillafaildps
11:00.59XinhuanArrowmaster, he was battle rezzed
11:01.01Xinhuanso no buffs
11:01.02theoddone33the closest thing we have now is one guy's girlfriend who yells a lot while he's talking inv ent
11:01.03Stanzilla(the priest)
11:01.03Xinhuan;p
11:01.13ArrowmasterXinhuan: i have 17k no buffs
11:01.25BrunersCheads: is she hot?
11:01.26Arrowmasterbut i am demo
11:01.26Xinhuanwell whatever ;p
11:01.42BrunersArrowmaster: i have more on my 70 warlock
11:01.56ArrowmasterBruners: i broke 8k at 60
11:02.06Arrowmasterthat was a feat
11:02.21CheadsBruners I doubt it
11:02.28theoddone33we failed a bunch at 2 drakes the other day
11:02.46theoddone33very sad, but our dps wasn't stacked well
11:03.56BrunersArrowmaster: i lied, only 13k5
11:03.56theoddone33anyway I have to figure out what to do if gothik's cowl drops
11:04.04Fisker-slaps Xinhuan around a bit with a large trout
11:04.08theoddone33sincne I stole hood of rationality from the priests
11:04.10Fisker-i am unstoppable
11:04.18theoddone33ninja it and gquit I think
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11:05.20Brunershmm a crescent with ham and cheese or a salad
11:09.51theoddone33why wouldn't something called gemmed wand of the nerubians have a socket in it??!
11:10.11robotuschbecause there's always room for moar gems
11:12.53Brunerstheoddone33: its pre gemed
11:17.55Groktarthis is weird
11:18.13Groktari'm attacking the heroic target dummy with 0 hit rating and 3/3 precision
11:18.27Groktar7% miss chance with 500 attacks so far
11:18.39Groktari was expecting 5 or 6
11:19.29Elkanois there a way to disable mouse on a button?
11:20.49ElkanoI mean via XML; enableMouse="false" seems not to work :/
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11:22.24doom0rshould be 6, Groktar
11:22.55Groktaryeah
11:23.13Groktarwell, i'm down to 6.6% after 700
11:23.13doom0rmaybe they messed up the level
11:23.21Groktaryeah
11:23.22doom0ror bad luck
11:23.24doom0r;x
11:23.43doom0rprobability doesn't guarantee outcome
11:23.43Groktari'm watching old stargate sg-1 episodes on my other monitor
11:23.53Groktarso i'll let this go for a while
11:24.07Groktari figure 10,000 should be a large enough sample
11:27.24Groktar835 hits and 6%
11:27.34Groktarwhich is what i expected
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11:28.19nevcairielhow much does 3/3 precision get you?
11:28.24Groktar3%
11:28.59CodayusThere's been quite a few observed bugs and/or quirks with hit lately.
11:29.27Groktarlike, i only have 10.43% hit in fury gear
11:30.17KalrothI've done a full Naxx25 clear with 10.31% and zero misses
11:30.32Groktarso i should have a .57% chance to miss on specials with titan's grip
11:30.38Groktaryet i've never observed it
11:30.39Kalrothno
11:30.52Kalrothit's 8% + 5% = 13%
11:31.04CodayusSeveral classes have come to the conclusion that the hit cap for special attacks is 8%, not 9%.  Other classes who had hit talents removed or changed in 3.0 have observed even odder things...
11:31.16Groktarthat would make sense
11:31.20Kalrothso if you got 10.43% + 3% from precision, you're over 13% etc.
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11:32.42CodayusAnd I believe shadow priests have come to the conclusion that their miss chance currently varies by spell, although I haven't been following that disucssion.
11:33.00nevcairielshadow priests just had their hit chance hotfixed =P
11:33.08Groktaro?
11:33.20nevcairielhttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/7539874653-0801-hotfix-talent-issue.html
11:33.30Groktar8% would make sense, since i have yet to observe a miss on a special
11:33.52Groktari could have not noticed one during a raid
11:34.19manywhat plugin uses GC3 as prefix in the guild notes?
11:34.46nevcairielguild craft?
11:34.46Codayusmany: Group Calaendar, at a guess.
11:34.47nevcairieli dunno
11:34.50nevcairielor that
11:34.57manyill check both, thanks
11:35.23CodayusOnly with proper spelling.  (I've no idea if it does; just a thought.)
11:36.37Fisker-ah Codayus
11:36.41manyBUGFIX: Password will no longer get set to "*********" when changing settings
11:36.46manymwahaha.
11:36.56Kalrothheh
11:36.58Fisker-Then that's why that paladin i saw could run around with like 6% hit without missing :E
11:36.59nevcairiellol
11:37.41Repo10itemdb: 03Elkano * r45 / (3 files in 1 directory): - added version to title
11:37.50Repo- ctrl-click on the search button will query server for unknown items in that search (use with care, can disconnect you)
11:37.52Repo- disabled mouse input on the icon, will now pass clicks/hover to the underlying button
11:37.53many(thats straight from group calendars changelog)
11:39.47Fisker-paladins should get a hit/expertise talent in protection
11:40.02Fisker-i would :3
11:40.13Fisker-and should be way high up in the tree of course
11:40.18Fisker-like after divine strength
11:40.27doom0rpunts Fisker-
11:40.35Fisker-cuntpunts doom0r
11:40.44doom0rshould have been prot before they took it out :P
11:40.46thuldickcuntpunts Fisker-
11:41.05doom0rflexes his ghost Precision talent
11:41.10Kalrothhot
11:42.19doom0ri think thul just had sex with Fisker-
11:42.23sacarasc:o
11:42.26thulit looks like it.
11:43.15manyits group calendar, listing the channel name, password and maxage of entries
11:43.16manythanks ^^
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11:44.17Groktarhmmm
11:44.25Groktaris heroic strike affected by the miss penalty?
11:44.43Groktardw penalty, i mean
11:45.00Groktarnm, forgot i got tg penalty
11:47.25Kalrothonly white attacks gets the dual wield penalty
11:48.01thuli have not tried dk dualwielding yet
11:48.02thulis it any fun?
11:49.08Fisker-not as much as your mom
11:49.09Fisker-lolol
11:49.40thullolol!
11:50.10Fisker-!
11:50.14Fisker-lets make out
11:50.35Trell-would a client crash make me lose all gfx settings?
11:50.48nevcairielit could if youre unlucky
11:50.52Trell-I've just restarted wow, and it suddenly wants to go full screen
11:51.05Trell-and is showing me the cinematic intro and license agreement etc
11:51.16Trell-><
11:51.18nevcairiela crash can corrupt the config files, yes
11:51.24Fisker-If the file is corrupt it will reset it
11:51.25Fisker-^^
11:51.32Trell-and that would cause the intro etc to show again?
11:51.37Fisker-yes
11:51.41Trell-hrm
11:53.23Grumi hope your SavedVars are still there
11:54.19Groktarabsurdly high missrate on heroic strike
11:54.41KalrothGroktar: How many have you fired?
11:55.03Groktar364 so far
11:55.04Groktar50 misses
11:55.07Trell-right lol
11:55.12Trell-made it in, and everything is screwed
11:55.17Trell-all my addon settings and everything
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11:56.09Groktarwish i had a spammable instant as fury
11:56.10KalrothGroktar: Thats a little lower than 14% misses - what's your hit % at?
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11:56.21KalrothGroktar: Hamstring?
11:56.26Kalroth:p
11:56.36Kalrothnevcairiel: spasibo!
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11:56.48Groktarrecount only counts misses
11:56.50Groktar:/
11:56.56Kalrothwhat
11:57.59Kalrothso that 50 out of 364 is misses, dodges and parries?
11:58.05Kalrothor what are you on about?
11:58.06Groktarno
11:58.19Kalrothmy recount shows dodges and parries just fine
11:58.24Groktargrr
11:58.30Groktarnot what i meant at all
11:58.46Groktaron attacks that don't do damage
11:58.55Groktarrecount will only show dodges/misses/parries
11:59.09Kalrothwhat's an attack that doesn't do any damage?
11:59.55Groktarhamstring, sunder
12:00.29Kalrothoh, in that way
12:00.41Groktarya, which is why i'm using heroic
12:02.33Kalrothwhat are you testing anyways?
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12:03.07Groktarmissrate on specials
12:03.36KalrothAre you naked or using normal gear?
12:04.31Groktarzero hit, if that's what you mean
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12:04.38Groktar3% hit from precision
12:04.38Kalrothnot even talents?
12:04.40Kalrothoh
12:04.57Kalrothso HS miss rate should be 10%
12:05.19Groktaryup
12:05.44Groktar62 misses after 557 attacks so far
12:06.16Kalroth11.1%, a lot better than 13.7% :)
12:06.32Quacky11,0111h11e11y13 13a09l13l13,13 11a11n11y13o13n09e13 13k13n11o11w11 13o13f09 13a13n13 11a11d11d13o13n09 13t13h13a11t11 11c13a13n09 13d13i13s11p11l11a13y13 09y13o13u13r11 11c11h13a13r09a13c13t13e11r11s11 13n13a09m13e13 13w11h11e11n13 13y09o13u13 13a11r11e11 13a13f09k13 13a13n11d11 11h13i13d09e13 13i13t11 11w11h13e13n09 13y13o13u
12:06.39Kalrothaaaaargh
12:06.46Groktarya
12:06.47Kalrothnevcairiel: fix please!
12:06.47Quackyoops
12:06.48Trell-wow
12:06.48Quackymy bad
12:06.50Quackylol
12:06.58GrumKILL IT QUICKLY
12:07.02Trell-MY EYES
12:07.03KalrothWITH FIRE
12:07.09Quackyit's dead
12:07.16GrumAND BLEECH!
12:07.49Groktarof course, 11.1% is almost spot for 9% bass miss
12:07.54Groktar*base
12:08.36Arrowmasterlol
12:11.35Groktar703/77
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12:13.15gixdoes anyone know from where the client gets the information how much arena rating an item requires? is that queried from the server every session and then stored in memory? since i don't find anything interesting in the item cache
12:15.54Arrowmasterit has to be in the itemcache since the entire tooltip contents are stored there
12:17.20nevcairielthe rating reqs are special, iirc
12:19.38gixwell there's ItemExtendedCost.dbc with what seems to be required honor points, required arena points, and required rating. but i haven't found a way yet to link the id of those records back to the item cache
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12:23.47Groktar1000/106
12:28.25Kalroth10.6%
12:28.29Kalroth:p
12:28.49nevcairielyou're a math genius, Kalroth
12:28.54Groktar1132/122
12:28.57Kalrothnevcairiel: bite me
12:29.11Kalroth10.77%, stop breaking it, Groktar
12:29.33Kalrothnevcairiel: !
12:29.45Groktarso how big a sample size do you think i need?
12:30.00nevcairiela million
12:30.10KalrothMore than 1000 and less than a million
12:30.19Groktarmy shit will break before a million :(
12:30.24KalrothDon't listen to nevcairiel, he's a meanie. 500000 attacks should be enough.
12:30.38Groktarhehe
12:30.47nevcairieli r not
12:30.51Kalrothur
12:31.03Groktarwish i were a rogue
12:31.08Grumit depends what window of error you are looking for
12:31.36KalrothGroktar: Anyways, the value for 1000 attacks is kinda worrying - you're totally butt naked except for talents? and which doll are you hitting?
12:31.41Groktarwell, i'm trying to figure out if the base miss is 8% or 9%
12:32.02Grumit used to be 8% right?
12:32.11KalrothIt used to be 9%
12:32.18Groktar9% was accepted value in tbc
12:32.18Kalrothseveral reports says it's 8% now though
12:32.52nevcairielif you are average around between 10 and 11 you should increase the sampel size until its clear which value is hit
12:33.25Groktarthing is, i was pretty sure it was 11% about 1100 attacks
12:33.30Groktarand now it's almost down to 10%
12:33.41Groktar1231 hits 127 misses now
12:33.53KalrothYeah, you have to eliminate the "odd" values by increasing the sample size
12:33.57nevcairielwell yeah, because on a low sample size a "bad luck" streak can change it
12:34.05Grumyou better do this as a rogue btw
12:34.14Kalroththat's 10.31%
12:34.18Grumor anything with a 1.3s dagger =D
12:34.20Kalrothso getting there!
12:34.23Groktarthe sample size will be large enough when my weapons are broken
12:34.26Kalrothlol
12:34.29nevcairiellol
12:34.33Grum'weapons'
12:34.34nevcairielits only autoattack right?
12:34.36Grumwhich are you using?
12:34.42nevcairieljust go afk and hit keyboard every 20 minutes
12:34.46Kalrothautoattack and heroic strike
12:34.50Groktari'm certain autoattack is 9%
12:35.04Kalrothdual wield white attacks are around 28%
12:35.04nevcairielah boo then you actually need to hit the HS key :P
12:35.09Kalrothsingle wield white attacks are 8%
12:35.10Groktarya
12:35.13nevcairielunless you G15 it
12:35.22nevcairielor something
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12:35.42KalrothI don't think never revisions of G15 can do unattended macros
12:35.47Groktarafter 4000 single wield white attacks i was at 6% miss
12:35.58Groktari had 3% hit from talents
12:36.01Kalrothhrm
12:36.04nevcairielKalroth: thats why you dont buy a new revision, they suck anyway
12:36.12Grumbtw are you max skilled with the weapon you use? :)
12:36.19Kalrothnevcairiel: I don't know which revision mine is, so :P
12:36.25nevcairielthe blue one is the old
12:36.27Kalrothnevcairiel: but I never used any of the macro keys
12:36.27nevcairielthe red one the new
12:36.30Kalrothoh
12:36.36KalrothI gots da new one
12:36.45nevcairielold has 18 macro keys
12:36.47nevcairielnew only 6
12:36.48nevcairielor so
12:37.03KalrothYeah, 6 keys with a 3-way switch
12:37.03nevcairielit apparently was too "wide" for users <.<
12:37.10MikkG11s still have 18 keys
12:37.12Mikkhas g11
12:37.23nevcairielyeah i broke my G15 and got a G11 as replacement
12:37.24Mikkthey don't have the silly display but i dont care about that
12:37.24Kalroththinks Mikk sux!
12:37.27nevcairieli never really used the display
12:38.05Mikkbut seeing how much str/agi/stam/etc you have is so useful!!!!
12:38.26KalrothI made a little program that can show bouncing boobies on my G15 display
12:38.32nevcairielI mostly had the TeamSpeak overlay on there to see who sneaks in my channels or who cant use push-to-talk again
12:38.34GrumAWESOME
12:38.35Kalrothother than that, not really
12:40.48Groktar1397/139
12:41.38Grum9% O.o
12:41.44nevcairielthats 10.05
12:41.48nevcairielgrum cant calc
12:41.50Grumerm 10 indeed
12:41.57Grumno i fail @ headmath ;D
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12:44.02doom0rspecial is supposed to be 8% also
12:44.11doom0rspecial and single-wield
12:44.30[Ammo]I need a proper vent overlay that works with vent 3 and vista
12:44.39[Ammo]and not the fucking ugly builtin one
12:44.48[Ammo]whoever figured out that was a good and pretty idea should be shot
12:44.52doom0ri have one, it's called second monitor
12:45.09[Ammo]I use that too atm
12:45.10Quackylol
12:45.19[Ammo]but a simple line in game would be nice
12:45.21Quackyg15 keyboard
12:47.33nuoHepGroktar, if you really want to test 8% hit just equip a shy bit more than 263 (try to be as close to 263 as possible) hitrating and just beat the dummy for an hour or more
12:49.15quiescenspoor dummy
12:49.18quiescenswhat did it ever do to you
12:49.19quiescens):
12:51.10doom0ri couldn't really see the point in an overlay, unless you had a complete pub server, or were tone deaf
12:53.55Groktar1700/170
12:55.43Grumthat is 9%
12:55.46Grumand you fail nev
12:55.50Grumbecause it is hit/miss
12:55.57Grumso its 170/1870
12:56.02Groktarnope
12:56.07nevcairielits total/miss
12:56.10Groktarya
12:56.11nevcairielyou fail Grum
12:56.12Groktartotal/miss
12:56.14Grumthen grok lies
12:56.33Groktari have titan's grip penalty and 3% hit from precision
12:56.45nevcairielso its 8%
12:56.55Groktaryup yup
12:57.00Grumproblem solved
12:57.11Grumbut i think you'll need to continue till you have 1000000000 samples
12:57.26Groktarhehe
12:57.53Kalrothbut white attacks are 9%?
12:57.54Groktari was talking to premonition's dps warriors
12:58.01Groktarand they weren't 100% sure which was which
12:59.01Grumok
12:59.06Grumsomeone make an addon
12:59.14Groktarer, sure whether it was 8% or 9%
12:59.18Grumwhich puts 2 pieces of text on each of your weapon
12:59.32Grumthe amount of hit still needed; and the amount it hit still needed for specials (if applicable ofc)
12:59.36Grumgo go go!
12:59.54Grumtaking in account all buffs/talents etc :D
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13:01.18Kalrothuhm
13:01.42MegalonGroktar: do you wanna prove something special? base miss chance vs bosses?
13:01.46Kalrothlook at your character stats and just add 1% for specials (or subtract)
13:02.19Grumno the amount of hit left needed till you are 100% hit
13:02.33Grumatm you just see: 9% .. right but for a rogue on his offhand .. how much does he still need?
13:02.35GroktarMegalon: yes
13:02.50Kalrothuhm
13:02.53nuoHepGrum, its 27% base miss for dw
13:02.57Kalrothoffhand isn't different from main hand
13:03.07Groktari know this
13:03.09Megalonit's 8% for nondw
13:03.30Kalrothsingle wield white attacks are 9% (according to Groktar?)
13:03.37Kalrothso dual wield white attacks are 28%
13:03.42Grum17% for casters
13:03.49Grumwhat is it for shield-attacks?
13:03.59Grumregular 9+1?
13:04.10Megalonall shield attacks are specials
13:04.12nuoHepKalroth, its 8% for specials, 8% for 1h melee and +19% for dw
13:04.30Megalonthere is no "white" shield attack, at least none i know of :o
13:04.32Kalrothno nuoHep, I think Groktar tested it to be 9% for white and 8% for specials
13:04.32Grumah so -1
13:04.36sztanpetmitch0 cooldowntogo doesnt honor the grace period, shall i write a ticket for you?
13:04.58KalrothGroktar: what was your auto attack miss rate in the above test?
13:05.22Megalonand btw, for those tests
13:05.30Groktarit's 3529 swings 768 misses for my heroic strike test
13:05.38Groktardual wielding, 3% precision, no hit rating
13:06.00Kalrothoh, dual wielding?
13:06.02nevcairiel5% penality?
13:06.06Kalroththat doesn't make sense :p
13:06.16Groktaryeah, it doesn't
13:06.16KalrothI think you said single wield earlier, no?
13:06.32Kalroththe white attacks, not the heroic strike attacks
13:06.39Groktari know
13:06.45Kalrothwith 1 or 2 weapons?
13:06.54Groktari'm sorry, i'm just not communicating well atm
13:07.04Grumdid you also have the TG penalty?
13:07.21Groktargrr
13:07.28thuli have to get exalted with the ebon blade
13:07.58SunTsuthul: That's quite easy, given the daily quests
13:08.05nuoHepKalroth, http://elitistjerks.com/1003184-post24.html, http://elitistjerks.com/1003402-post25.html and http://elitistjerks.com/1037331-post60.html
13:08.07Groktarhmm
13:08.11Kalrothhttp://img56.imageshack.us/img56/6172/wowscrnshot010809200050bs0.jpg
13:08.13thul7437/21000 now
13:08.16Groktarmy single wield white test was smaller than i thought
13:08.23Groktarit was only over 1163 attacks
13:08.26Groktarso not a big enough sample
13:09.13Megalondid you read up http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t37856-melee_hit_cap_really_9_a/ ?
13:10.37Groktarnope
13:10.42Groktari decided i wanted my own data
13:10.47Megalonand do you have haste active
13:10.58Megalonlike unholy presence, passive haste on gear
13:11.00Groktar184 haste right now
13:11.13Megalondon't know if it is still that way
13:11.15Groktarplus 25% speed for next 3 swings on crits
13:11.37Megalonwhitehit misses where ppm
13:11.45Megalonit's somewhere in that thread
13:12.08Megalonso that it looked like haste lowers you miss chance
13:12.20Megalonbecause the ppm is the same, but you are actually hitting more often
13:12.31Megalonweird shit on blizzards side
13:12.55nuoHepGroktar, for all your test you need very large sample size, around 50k hits or even more. the simplest way would be to equip some pieces with hitrating on them so you have a little bit more then say 8% hit (or whatever you are testing) and beat the dummy for an hour
13:14.31KalrothMegalon: So you need more +hit when you got (a lot) of +haste?
13:14.44Groktarsame amount
13:14.50MegalonKalroth: na always the same
13:14.58Kalrothokay, what was that about ppm then?
13:14.59Megalonit's just like
13:15.07Megalonyou hit with a weapon 100times per minute
13:15.10Megalonan 8% miss
13:15.17Megalongame calculates => 8ppm misses
13:15.24Megalonnow you get 20% haste on gear
13:15.29Megalonyou hit 120 times per minute
13:15.34Megalonbut you miss is still 8ppm
13:15.43Kalrothah okay
13:16.23Megalonit was on one of the EJ threads, but think that is more of a bug
13:16.53Megalonbecause it makes no sense to be that way
13:17.07Megalonbut then again, it's a blizzard game
13:17.30Groktarwell, i'm still doing my HS test
13:17.52KalrothNO GROK, bad Grok, bad!
13:18.05Megalonbut yea, like nuoHep said, easiert to equip a certain % of hit
13:18.13Groktarbut i have only done 2272 heroic strikes!
13:18.15Megalontest until you get a miss, equip more
13:18.18Groktari need 50,000!
13:18.32Kalroth500,000*
13:18.58Groktarya, good idea
13:19.20Groktari can spam cheaper stuff, too
13:19.36Fisker-haha
13:19.45Fisker-i found out to reproduce the bug that makes me take no fall damage
13:20.02MegalonFisker-: casting devine protection?
13:20.04Megalonwhat a bug!
13:20.07Megalondivine :S
13:20.16Megalon:P
13:20.28Megalonargh, divine shield was bubble :<
13:21.23quiescenspushes megalon off a convenient nearby cliff
13:22.04Fisker-no Megalon
13:22.52Megaloncasts Swift Flight Form
13:22.58Megalon:s
13:23.25Groktarheh, i'm having trouble getting exactly the right amount of hit
13:24.06Groktari guess 10.1% is close enough
13:25.57Fisker-just gonna make a movie in a second
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13:31.20Kalrothwoot
13:32.53sacarasci'll woot you
13:33.37Fisker-good place to up movies btw?
13:33.47quiescensover there -->
13:33.53Fisker-no u
13:33.54si-m1youtube hd
13:35.00si-m1warcraftmovies.com probably has some suggestions
13:36.06Fisker-no u
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13:36.17Fisker-Guess i'll do jewtoob then
13:37.47Megalonyouporn!
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13:41.52doom0rGroktar: this is tg with 2 2h?
13:43.04Groktari had a 2h in my oh
13:43.46doom0rand you're calc'ing miss rate of which attack with which hand?
13:44.07Groktari was doing heroic strike
13:44.28Groktarwhich would be main hand
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13:47.44doom0rwhich doesn't qualify as a special does it
13:47.55doom0rsince it's on a normal swing?
13:48.22Mikkgood question  oO
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13:48.35Mikkhm no it'll be a special i think
13:48.49Mikkwith which you should be capped at 8% or 8.2%
13:48.59Mikkcome next patch anyway
13:49.19Mikkmy own testing suggests 8.2% but some say 8%
13:49.21Mikkshrugs
13:50.08doom0rdw penalty is only to offhand?
13:50.13doom0rnot tg mind you
13:50.15selckinget 8% and test again
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13:52.26doom0ri guess that would be much larger if it was not counted as a special attack
13:53.24doom0rso base 8% plus 5 = 13
13:53.28doom0r-3 from precision
13:53.33BrunersoUF_Banzai, anyone else getting errors?
13:53.43doom0ryour test data shows true to what it should be
13:53.47quiescenswhat precision
13:53.59doom0rhe has precision from fury
13:54.23doom0rhence his 10%
13:55.12doom0rseems fine Groktar
13:59.15doom0rwe have a motion sensor light switch in the laundry room in my building... people don't get it, they go out of their way to turn it completely off
14:06.23Groktari was sitting at 10.2% after 2800 specials
14:06.43Groktarbut that's not really enough
14:06.56Groktarnot to 3 significant digits
14:12.15Fisker-Anyone know the XFX graphics cards?
14:14.29ZhinjioI have two of them.
14:15.21Repo10ora2: 03ananhaid * r650 Leader/Item.lua: oRA2:
14:15.23Repo-zhCN update.
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14:17.39doom0rGroktar: is math plus a reference 40k attacks enough?
14:20.33Groktarwhere is the reference 40k?
14:20.37Groktari don't see it in that ej thread
14:20.47doom0rin the paladin thread, there's a link to it
14:21.38Groktarew paladin thread
14:21.39doom0rand you get a further 5% miss from tg
14:21.44Groktaryes
14:21.44Fisker-yay
14:21.47doom0rso 10
14:21.49Fisker-i now own a GTX 285
14:21.53Groktaryes
14:21.54Fisker-roots for his postman
14:29.19doom0rmmm, sldatatext or other?
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14:34.51doom0rlooking for something for skill display ideally
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14:39.35Zhinjiodoom0r: hmm?
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14:39.47doom0rleveling stuff
14:39.50doom0rweapons and such
14:40.54Groktarbleeds all over doom0r
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14:49.05sztanpetmitch0 bombarded you with a few tickets, hope you dont mind
14:51.37doom0rZhinjio: basically powerdisplay or sldatatext for stats w/ skill level
14:55.27ZhinjioI can add skill levels into allstats, and then you could have them slowly scroll on one block
14:55.36Zhinjiothat would be easy enough
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14:56.29doom0rya, skill level would be awesome, i currently dont' dispaly anything on it, so that would be perfect
14:56.36doom0rcan just use powerdisplay or seomthing for my hunters stats
14:56.55doom0rwhen i'm watching speed and such
14:57.00Zhinjionods.
14:57.13ZhinjioI think it'll be easy to add. Give me a few.
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15:03.33ZhinjioI assume just weapon skills, yes?
15:03.42Zhinjiodon't need like... languages or aythign on there.
15:03.45steevamg
15:03.48Zhinjiooh, and maybe professions.
15:03.54steevglyph of raise dead means no more reagent now <3
15:04.07Zhinjioalthough that seems kinda like a waste to have actively tracking
15:04.13steevso much easier to arena now
15:04.16Zhinjiomeh, I'll add it anyway
15:05.00steevbah, no more cower in fear? weak
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15:06.06Groktarbleeds all over Sekkyo
15:06.41pentium166can i have a glyph of living long enough to make use of heroism in arena?
15:08.00doom0ri really need to go through and remove the load text from all these addons that think for some damn reason i wanna see there startup notice provided it even shows late enough to show
15:08.45doom0rOMG we loaded! Nothing useful here but onehundred and sixty four useless lines of crap to spam your chat frame with!!! queue up next retarded load message!
15:09.21Kaelteng'morning all
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15:09.53steevpentium166: if you can't hit heroism in an arena before getting dead, you have bigger issues
15:09.56Xinhuanhi :)
15:10.07pentium166i can hit heroism
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15:10.22pentium166i generally don't outlive it though!
15:11.27steev2's 3's or 5's?
15:11.39pentium166although i think i've played a total of 20 matches this season.
15:11.41pentium1662's
15:12.19steevahh
15:12.29steevyeah, im not sure what the deal is with shaman in arena
15:12.32doom0rscratches his head
15:12.37steevsupposedly their survivability is increased
15:12.43pentium166lol
15:12.47pentium166lol.
15:12.48doom0rpowerdisplay has weapon skills, but no ranged one
15:12.51steevit takes me and my hunter partner about 4 seconds to slice through one that is resto
15:12.55ckknightpentium166: you may be a hero, but are you an hero?
15:13.32pentium166i know that is some sort of internet meme but i am not very familiar with it
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15:13.49thulcrits steev to death
15:14.19pentium166if dps was the same as pre-3.0 then shaman survivability would have increased
15:15.08steevthul: not with my spiffy new darkmoon card: death you don't!
15:15.16steevalthough im currently on the ptr
15:15.16thulhaha
15:15.20steevand have to go get it
15:15.40steevso annoying to get, i should either finish getting bloodsail rep, or get gadget and shit back up
15:15.40pentium166i was resto pre-3.0 with 462 resilience and i'm enhancement now with blues and 10 man/heroic epics so it's kind of hard to compare
15:15.55Fisker-jewtoob = FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
15:15.57Fisker-l2HD
15:16.10Fisker-ah
15:16.11Fisker-there it was
15:16.12Fisker-http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=BJP73vSNRF0
15:16.40pentium166doesn't youtube have HD now?
15:16.52pentium166at least compared to its original video quality
15:16.52Fisker-yup
15:16.59Fisker-But it didn't list "View in HD" when it was uploaded
15:16.59steevpentium166: ahh, i have 449 or so on my dk
15:17.11Fisker-and as you can see
15:17.16Fisker-shit looks like shit in non-hd
15:17.30thulso, should i try to get my dk into a guild, dekc it out in heroic stuff and some raid-stuff, or level my rogue to 80 and pvp with it?
15:18.20Fisker-See how awesome i am thul
15:18.22Fisker-I cannot die etc.
15:18.24pentium166right now raid gear is much easier to get and probably better for pvp than pvp gear
15:18.26steevthul: pvp with the dk
15:18.30pentium166or that's what i've been hearing.
15:18.34steevpentium166: disagree
15:18.36thulsteev: well, i just can't get comfortable pvp-ing with it
15:18.51thuli feel that i lack survivability compared to my roguye
15:18.54steevthul: drop deathndecay... use mark of blood on their big damage dealer
15:19.00steevsilence healer
15:19.01steevwin
15:19.36Fisker-Megalon
15:19.37Fisker-i own you
15:19.41thulhehe, well.. i just miss vanish, shadowstep.. i guess it is habit, i have pvp-ed for 2-3 years with the rogue, just a few weeks with the dk
15:19.49steevon ptr, i have 2909 ap and 29.77% crit :(
15:20.17steevi use almost all pvp gear
15:20.43pentium166earned through pvp or is it being handed out on the ptr?
15:21.05steevi don't know if its being passed out on the ptr - this is all stuff i had from live
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15:23.07quiescensfor the most part people die so quickly that the only way to not kill is to kill quicker
15:24.06Brunersis Rabbit on irc ?
15:24.58steevargh
15:25.06quiescenser, that didn't
15:25.09steevlaptop went into standby because i forgot to plug it in *sigh*
15:25.31steevquiescens: you mean not die ?
15:25.34quiescenspeople die so quickly that the best way to reduce damage is to do more damage
15:26.11pentium166that's what i was getting at when i said that raid gear is better for pvp
15:26.12steevquiescens: i'd disagree, at first i was taking insane damage, even using the tempered set - got the free epix for honor, boots, cloak, ring
15:26.30steever, savage saronite set
15:26.36steevalthough i still use the savage saronite chest
15:27.11pentium166one of the QQs about death knights is that they can blow their defensive cooldowns to live a long time without sacrificing dps in pvp
15:27.20thulhttp://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/01/scenes_from_the_gaza_strip.html
15:27.24pentium166i spend too much time reading wow forums so grain of salt etc.
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15:27.52thulwell, i can blow the armor+dodge+ap CD in frost + the 10% less damage
15:27.55steevpentium166: somewhat true, but not really
15:27.55thulbut how much is that really?
15:28.09steevwe still go down just as fast when focus fired
15:30.30steevwell
15:30.31thulwe don't ahve an unholy bubble.
15:30.35steevas fast as a prot warrior
15:30.42steevfaster i'd assume on ptr
15:32.36pentium166at any rate, i can't say i'm thrilled with how pvp is turning out
15:32.41steevthul: comment 148 is classic
15:33.16thulhahahahaha
15:33.18thulyes, indeed.
15:33.21thulhaha, epic!
15:34.34doom0ris there a lib to display char stats?
15:35.51Repo10muf: 03vaeyl * r13 / (3 files in 3 directories): I am beginning to restructure this addon.
15:35.53RepoWARNING: This and the following version will NOT work. At all!
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15:42.12doom0rWTS branch
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15:44.29pentium166has that addon even had a release yet?
15:45.32doom0rnot even a beta
15:45.57steevwhat's muf
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15:46.11doom0rmodular Unitframes
15:47.18Brunersincase someone wanted to try it out, atleast he gave a warning :P
15:47.46doom0rsounds like they're going for a cross between oUF and DUF
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15:49.43Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1856 / (15 files in 13 directories):
15:49.44doom0rpowerdisplay needs to become less of a hardcoded mess
15:49.45RepoRe-arranged Tailoring to make way for WotLK items.  Edited the tocs to get the version number from the SVN repo tag number.
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15:51.07AckisWorkI should write unit frames and call them Ackis' Interface Deluxe and then I can tell people to go get AIDs
15:51.38pentium166I would switch from pitbull to aids
15:52.24doom0rsystem
15:52.29doom0rjust add a system
15:52.32doom0rAIDS
15:53.01Brunersnevcairiel: btw, there is a bug with adding new bags to the bagbar
15:53.12doom0rbagbars are ewwww
15:53.22doom0rwashes his hands
15:53.40Brunersi dont have them visible, but its still a bug :P
15:54.09steevMining veins and deposits no longer require multiple hits to receive all the ore. Players will receive around the same amount of ore, stone, and gems they would have received from multiple hits.
15:54.18steevyay
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15:54.35doom0ro.O
15:54.48steevIncreased the critical strike rating granted by ranks 5 and 6 of Master of Anatomy.
15:54.56steevmore crit for me <3
15:55.19manyyay!
15:56.00manyiam seriously thinking of keeping skinning and mining just for the bonus granted
15:56.36pentium166how much does mining give at max rank?
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15:57.11steev500 hit points currently
15:57.22steevshould be 50 stamina when 3.0.8 drops
15:57.30steevthey are shooting for tuesday for a release, but no promises
15:57.46pentium166meh
15:58.25steevGlyph of Corpse Explosion: Additional explosions from this glyph will no longer consume Unholy Runes.
15:59.43steevWill of the Forsaken: Using this ability while disoriented would trigger it?s cooldown to no affect; it is no longer useable while disoriented.
15:59.52steevfinally
16:00.28steevButchery: Will now always grant 20 runic power, regardless of the creature type killed. <-- spiffy
16:00.41manyhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=53040
16:01.08manythere you go, thoughness(rank6)
16:01.08thulsteev == rat-killing in heorics.
16:01.08steevDancing Rune Blade: The weapon no longer echoes the Raise Dead and Army of the Dead spells.
16:01.17steevboooo
16:01.23thulb0000
16:01.28thulwhere are these stuffs?
16:01.29thulurl?
16:01.39quiescensthe dancing rune blade should cast dancing rune blade
16:01.41quiescensimo
16:02.00steevGnaw: This ghoul ability is now able to be set on autocast.
16:02.08steevhttp://www.worldofraids.com/
16:02.18steevthat will be nice
16:02.29steevsince for some f'n reason it keeps disappearing from my damn pet bar
16:02.48steevMark of Blood now works correctly with periodic damage.
16:02.55steev*that* will be nice to have fixed
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16:03.04steevsick of putting it on warlocks and it not working
16:03.55doom0rto hell with MoB
16:04.03doom0ronly thing that stops my rogue from tearing someone up
16:04.28quiescensits.. magic and on a 3 minute cooldown
16:04.43thulthey can't clos it off
16:04.55quiescenshax
16:04.55steevdoom0r: yeah i know
16:04.56ckknighthey all
16:04.58ckknighthow's life?
16:05.02thulH4X
16:05.03steevckknight: life is life
16:05.04thulhugs ckknight
16:05.09ckknightk
16:05.21steevdoom0r: i gotta admit i mash that button when a rogue stuns me
16:05.35steevthen watching him go to town healing me
16:05.40Brunersits great at the moment, i gots my interwebz back
16:05.43steevthen noticing he's got the buff
16:05.47steevand taking off running
16:05.52doom0rya, i just encountered it the other day
16:05.56doom0rstarted leveling my rogue again
16:06.05doom0rt1/2 viskag/hakkari offhand
16:06.06steevi can't :(
16:06.08thuldoom0r: shall we level together? :-P
16:06.16steevi try to level my rogue
16:06.19steevand its like
16:06.21steevkill 2 mobs
16:06.23steevstop, eat
16:06.26steevkill 2 more mobs
16:06.26doom0rlol
16:06.27steevstop, eat
16:06.37doom0rmines like, kill, repeat
16:06.41thulAGREED
16:06.45steevi suck at rogue
16:06.55doom0ri'm overgeared for the way they made it now
16:06.58steevso im slowly leveling my resto shaman
16:07.08steevmy rogue is still in s1/2 gears
16:07.32thuli have kara/s2/za :-P
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16:07.50steevi didn't bother with s2 once they made it honor based
16:07.53Repo- Fix skill levels for some enchanting recipes (reported by Veis)
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16:09.41obbleHey guys, got a question
16:09.53Bruners~asktoask
16:09.54purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
16:10.00Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r225 TradeskillData.lua:
16:10.01thulfuuuuck
16:10.02thuli am too slow
16:10.02Repo- Fix locations of Catherine Leland and Kendor Kabonka (reported by vampik)
16:10.11Brunerswins
16:10.38obbleMeh, i'm a gentleman ^^
16:11.01doom0rwonders if obble noticed he's on the interwebz
16:11.17quiescensgo to sleep~
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16:11.56obbleAnyway, writing a small actionbar mod; but getting a strange bug. Everytime i zone or leave a vehicle, the MainMenuBar resets position to the bottom of the UIParent.
16:12.34obbleI've used MainMenuBar.SetPoint = function() return end, but it's an ugly fix and i can't spot what is causing it
16:12.34thuljust another cog|work in the wheel.
16:12.44cog|workrawr
16:12.46obbleMainMenuBar.SetPoint = function() return end
16:12.52obbleOops.
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16:13.00obblehttp://obble.pastey.net/105823 is the code*
16:13.18obbles
16:13.29obbleGood god i have fat fingers today
16:14.19doom0rmine are fat everyday =\
16:14.45obbleAny idea what's causing it anyway?
16:15.37AckisWorkfat fingers? taht's just being clumsy
16:16.02obbleProbably :P
16:16.26Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r226 TradeskillInfo.lua:
16:16.29Repo- Fix error when skills are compressed in the skills window (k) by pressing the -/+ button (reported by AesirRising)
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16:20.11Repo- Fix skill levels for some enchanting recipes (reported by Veis)
16:20.14Repo- Fix locations of Catherine Leland and Kendor Kabonka (reported by vampik)
16:20.17Repo- Fix error when skills are compressed in the skills window (k) by pressing the -/+ button (reported by AesirRising)
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16:24.02Kopokopolo_hi all, first time here, just a quick question: can two players ever have the same name?  On any realm type, same/opposing faction/whatever?
16:24.13Grumyes; diff realms
16:24.20Grumand pets/players can have the same name
16:24.35Grumbut when you are in cross-realm BG's the names are postfixed with the servername
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16:25.06Kopokopolo_Grum: ok, thanks a lot
16:25.34Jyggahm somehow ankhtimerFu doesnt work anymore any replacements known?
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16:38.42Mikkyaknow what i want?  i want an LDB plugin that i can just drag items/spells to and have it create new plugins with their cooldowns
16:39.04thuli dislike bibbles software development strategy
16:40.46steevoh snap
16:40.59steevthere IS a way to turn off the sync to server for bindings and buttons
16:41.18steev-- turns off synchronization of UI settings
16:41.22steever
16:41.25steev<PROTECTED>
16:41.30steevsilly irssi
16:41.55steevcan also turn off bindings and macros seperately as well
16:42.17steevthats good because my current laptop fails at resolution and is 1024x768 max
16:42.36steevstuck at 1280x960 at home, and 1680x1050 at work
16:43.15sztanpetthere is even a DownloadSettings() function
16:43.21sztanpetand upload too
16:43.44thuli do 24" 1920x1080 now, it rawks.
16:44.18steevis there an addon that can take and show the infos from DownloadSettings() ?
16:44.19Repo10ora2: 03kunda * r651 Leader/Item.lua: deDE update
16:44.42sztanpetprobably not
16:44.46steevi think it would be cool to say, hey, local setting X is different than server side Y
16:44.56sztanpetyea
16:45.04steevwant to upload the changes? or, want to download the changes?
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16:56.40steevsztanpet: happen to know where that function is? wowwiki isn't showing anything for DownloadSetting in a search
16:56.58sztanpetofficial forums, 3.0 changes
16:57.16steevahh foudn it
16:57.17steevwtf
16:57.28steevgoogle can find it on wowwiki but wowwiki can't?
16:58.02steevmeh, nothing about it on wowwiki anyway hehe
16:58.04quiescenssleeep
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17:01.10Zergrethis there any function that returns a non-localized creature type? like, something that doesn't change between the different clients?
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17:04.11PneumatusZergreth: UnitCreatureType isnt localised
17:05.01Pneumatusthe return is english, but is returned english in any locale afaik
17:05.10BrunersUnitCreatureFamily()
17:06.19Pneumatusthat only works on beasts
17:06.44Tristanianand beast is a type in itself :p
17:07.01PneumatusUnitCreatureType returns beast/humanoid/etc
17:07.55doom0rsome people's keybindings make my head hurt
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17:08.21doom0rlooking at a ui with left handed keybindings and out of the blue, \ for freezing trap
17:09.05Gnarfoz\ is left-handed
17:10.07Kopokopoloyep, on an us keyboard it
17:10.16Kopokopolo's quite easily accessible?
17:10.41doom0ron what layout is \ left-handed
17:10.46Repo10grid: 03kunda 07unitguid * r1110 GridLocale-deDE.lua: deDE update for unitguid branch
17:10.50Gnarfozdunno if that key is actually there on US keyboards, but on my german keyboard using a (modified, but not that part) US layout, \ is directly to the right of the left shift key
17:10.55ZergrethPneumatus, sorry, was afk for a second. well, i'm german, and UnitCreatureType() returns the localized string on beasts, so i wasn't sure what's up with the others..
17:11.16sztanpetthe only \ i have its altgr q
17:11.25Gnarfozwtf :P
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17:11.48Kopokopolohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#United_States
17:12.19Gnarfozheh, ok it's not there on 102 key keyboards
17:12.22Kopokopoloand yes, on my swedish layout it's alt-gr + a key close to backspace :/
17:12.58Kopokopoloa bit of a pita actually, when you're doing something that needs it often :(
17:13.21Zergrethanybody using a non-english and non-german wow client here?
17:14.01PneumatusZergreth: what do you get for UnitCreatureType('player')
17:14.07ZergrethHumanoid
17:14.20Zergrethbut thats the german word for Humanoid anyway, it makes sense..
17:14.34Pneumatusahh
17:14.45Zergreththats why i was not sure about the whole localization stuff
17:14.57Zergrethand i basically want to check if a unit is a humanoid or not
17:15.36doom0rthis is a US player that's using \
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17:17.53Gnarfozhow do you know what kind of keyboard he has.
17:18.05Gnarfozjust flame him for it regardless and wait for his response
17:18.19viisualIt's a dvorak!
17:18.19Gnarfozit's the "internet way" ;)
17:18.41doom0rjudging by use of things like F7 also, i'm guessing it wont' matter
17:18.44doom0rthey're all over
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17:19.16stew_aSavedVariables - are there any characters you're not allowed to have in strings?
17:19.19doom0ri also see people binding over strafe and turn
17:19.29Brunersslocalizations >< l2english
17:20.04Zergrethi still need a way to get the non-localized creature type of a unit. or a global variable holding the localization of the humanoid creature type. help?
17:21.31Gnarfozjust look at any unitframe or tooltip mod that can show that
17:21.35Gnarfozand see what they do
17:21.46Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r1857 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update
17:22.13AckisWork<PROTECTED>
17:22.32Elkano~seen nymbia
17:22.36purlnymbia <n=nymbia@c-67-190-49-185.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10d 16h 7m 48s ago, saying: 'sherpentshrine cavern ;)'.
17:22.58ZergrethGnarfoz, how does that help me? they just have to show UnitCreatureType() anyway, they dont have to worry about the localization, since it returns the localized string anyway. i need a non-localized string or id though
17:23.26Gnarfoz!api UnitCreatureType()
17:23.26lua_botDocumentation for 'UnitCreatureType' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitCreatureType
17:23.51Gnarfozwell... use babble-class :p
17:24.20Pneumatusbabble-class has npc types localised?
17:24.40Gnarfozsome shit lib is bound to have that
17:24.53Brunersi used babble for that iirc
17:25.28BrunersLibBabble-CreatureType-3.0
17:26.18Pneumatusare like 8 translations really worth a lib :o
17:27.09Gnarfoz8 translations * 7 languages
17:27.11Gnarfozor whatever
17:27.29Brunersdepends if you are lazy or not
17:27.36Brunersbut why not use it ?
17:28.03Gnarfozhi AckisWork :O
17:28.08Repo10grid-status-threat: 03kunda * r42 / (2 files in 1 directory): update for Grid-unitguid
17:29.03Zergrethoh well, will give the lib a shot. thanks
17:31.31Repo10proculas: 03Xocide * r126 / (4 files in 2 directories): Added the deDE localization with much thanks to HatteSoul.
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17:32.46doom0rZergreth: what do you really need the english name for?
17:32.57steevugh
17:33.06Zergrethi dont need the english name, i need an unlocalized string or an id for the humanoid creature type
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17:33.18Zergrethto make my addon compatible with every wow client, not just the english and the german one
17:33.32steevam2 processor showed up from newegg with 4 bent pins, and the packaging *closed* but the top foam was in the cardboard *not* holding the CPU closed
17:33.37steever, tight*
17:34.18doom0runlocalized?
17:34.38doom0rwhen they use a base name, it's in..... english
17:34.40Zergrethwell, a string that is not localized between the different clients
17:35.00ZergrethUnitCreatureType() returns localized strings, so i need something which is not being localized
17:35.17doom0reither way, for what, tracking?
17:35.35Kopokopolocc notifications?
17:35.35Zergrethnaw, for some unit frame modification
17:36.06Zergrethtrust me, i know what i need in this case, theres no other way to achieve what i am trying to do
17:36.58ckknighthey all
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17:37.07ckknightcheck out how http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/pages/ looks
17:37.11ckknightit's a tree view now
17:37.27Grumalready has image support?
17:37.41Brunershello ckknight
17:37.47ckknighthey Bruners
17:38.02ckknighthow's life?
17:38.13Brunersfells good
17:38.26Brunersand you ?
17:39.15Brunersi discovered that wireless network cards with 3 antennas really helps
17:39.26Zergreth3?!
17:39.28Zergrethholy shit
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17:40.13Brunersthis also gave me proper internet today :)
17:43.57Kopokopolois there an addon-independent way/lib for storing player info? preferably quite flexible, allowing caching of who's, hate-, nice- and KoS lists, comments, etc.?
17:45.22Zergrethyou dont seem to get an afk status when idling on any elevator/zeppelin/whatever else is moving constantly :D
17:46.49XinhuanThank you for contacting PayPal with your concern. Upon your email, I understand you would like to create a donate button. We are sorry to inform you that Singaporean PayPal user cannot create the 'Donate' function. I'm sorry for any inconvenience brought to you.
17:46.51Xinhuanhow gay
17:47.11Zergrethwhat the hell
17:47.14Tristanianwtf
17:47.14Zergreththats seriously gay
17:47.22Tristanianare they serious ?
17:47.25Xinhuanappears so
17:47.27Zhinjioquite
17:47.30Tristanian...
17:47.36Zhinjioits a government regulation, actuallhy
17:47.39Xinhuanright now, i just use a "Buy it now" button, but use the image of a "Donate button"
17:47.48Tristanianhax
17:47.49Xinhuanand set the price at <no price>
17:47.53Xinhuanso the user has to fill it in
17:48.12Zhinjioebay china and ebay singapore are very restricted in a variety of ways
17:48.13Zergrethnice alternative
17:48.15Zhinjioespecially china though
17:48.18Repo10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1111 / (25 files in 2 directories): Merged unitguid branch to trunk for alpha testing.
17:48.21Tristanianwhy is that ?
17:48.27doom0r....
17:48.36ckknightpastamancer: zomg
17:48.36Gnarfozbecause they're ASS BACKWARDS?
17:48.36doom0rthe governments
17:48.37Gnarfoz:p
17:48.46Gnarfozyes, not the people
17:48.51pastamancerckknight: it cometh
17:48.54Zhinjiotheir governments both own alot of the infrastructure, and therefor regulate what is considered "valid" commerce... and ... more than anything ... what a piece of the take.
17:48.58ckknighto noes, pastamancer
17:49.01ckknightnot it!
17:49.11Zergrethanybody else here using notepad++?
17:49.16Zhinjioin china, there's an astonishing amount of corruption in the governments.
17:49.17pastamancerckknight: not tagging anything for release until the 15th though
17:49.23Zergrethis it only me, or does it have no option to save a textfile as utf-8?
17:49.25ckknightpastamancer: okay
17:49.27Xinhuanr1111 nice
17:49.30Xinhuannumber
17:49.34ckknightpastamancer: let's have a race, see who releases first
17:49.35ckknight:P
17:49.38pastamancerhaha
17:49.40XinhuanZergreth,
17:49.42pastamancerhow's PB4 coming along?
17:49.47XinhuanFormat menu
17:49.58Zhinjiowe (ebay/paypal) would get some idiotic network tech who would take a $50 bribe, and shut off routes in their networks in order to prevent people inside china from getting at ebay
17:50.00Gnarfozpastamancer: giev more info on what to do to convert plugin "x" to be compatible :O
17:50.02ZergrethXinhuan, perfect. thanks <3
17:50.02ckknightpastamancer: well. most of the modules are done, Shefki's still working on Auras, and we don't have raid support yet
17:50.19ckknightpastamancer: things are definitely coming along
17:50.20Zergrethi expected it to be in the save file window
17:50.22pastamancerGnarfoz: depends on what plugin 'x' does
17:50.28BrunersZergreth: i use it
17:50.35Gnarfozpastamancer: meh, I was trying to be generic. :P
17:50.39ZergrethBruners, problem solved already, but thanks for your interest
17:50.41Tristanianis raid support going to be a different module ck ?
17:50.57pastamancerfor status plugins, you usually just have to change 'UnitName' to 'UnitGUID'
17:51.12pastamancerbut if you're depending on roster or seea, you need to rework that
17:51.19ckknightTristanian: no, that's not how the module system is set up
17:51.42ckknightTristanian: so it will be in the core, but if you turn off the units, they'll never create and no mem usage taken up
17:51.57TristanianI see
17:51.57Zhinjiochina also won't let akamei host content inside their borders
17:52.03Zhinjiowhich is some serious lolz.
17:52.14pastamancerthat kinda defeats the purpose of akamai :/
17:52.26Zhinjioyup, so they have a ring of nodes just outside.
17:52.43doom0rakamai scares me
17:52.49doom0rthey're too god damn big
17:52.50Repo10grid-status-mts: 03kunda * r30 / (18 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
17:52.52RepoGridStatusMTs:
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17:52.55Repo- update for Grid-unitguid
17:52.59Repo- toc update
17:53.01Repo- added support for Blizzard MainTanks
17:54.08Zhinjiothey're a really easy vendor to deal with
17:54.12Zhinjiovery efficient
17:57.57pastamancerckknight: how configurable are PB4 layouts?  Can you make the border flash or something if a unit has a particular debuff?
17:58.10Repo10zzhuntar: 03Turaka * r4 / (2 files in 1 directory): * Added option to enable it in PvP
17:58.12ckknightpastamancer: Shefki's working on that
17:58.13RepoDefaults now to Disabled in PvP
17:58.23ckknightbut yes
17:58.31Repo10zzhuntar: 03Turaka 041.1 * r5 : Tagged for 1.1 Release
17:59.20pastamancernice
17:59.33Kopokopoloum, just a stupid question, not knowing anything at all about unitguids - is this value the same even after name changes and across realms, and if not, what's the benefit?
18:00.08pastamancerit lets you differentiate between multiple units with the same name
18:00.16pastamancerlike the drakes in malygos p3
18:00.24pastamanceror stupid hunters
18:00.55Kopokopololol, ok
18:01.20pastamancerand for player units, I believe it's constant until the next server reboot, but grid only cares that it's unique for your session
18:01.21stew_alast i checked, for players it was the same across any event apart from moving battlegroup (as far as i remember)
18:02.06Kaeltenok, fearless alpha testers!  if you restart your client (or wait until the next hourly check happens) you should get auto updated to alpha7!
18:02.35Tristanianand then it blows up ? :p
18:02.36doom0rguids don't change on players
18:02.45Repo10zzhuntar: 03Turaka * r6 / (2 files in 1 directory): * Minor Bugfix which caused an error.
18:02.52doom0runless they change name or transfer
18:03.02Repo10zzhuntar: 03Turaka 041.2 * r7 : * Tagged bugfix.
18:03.04ZergrethKaelten, do you know the issue with onebank not properly coloring the item borders using the item quality?
18:03.07KaeltenTristanian: it 'worked for me' :)
18:03.11Repo10enhancedcalendar: 03Pericles * r12 RaidInviter.lua: RaidInviter: -
18:03.14Repodry coded changes
18:03.25KaeltenZergreth: I've seen it once,  I'm going to start working on it some more this week
18:03.26TristanianI'll give it a try, if it messses my addon, then be damned for eternity ! :p
18:03.30Kaelten[I have family in town till saturday
18:03.37Repo10zzhuntar: 03Turaka * r8 / (2 files in 1 directory): * Fixed an text issue.
18:03.45ckknightI found a bug in CC. It's not finding OneRing4 for some reason
18:03.56Zergrethwell, its not an important issue, but still, its a bug ;p take your time though
18:04.01Kaeltenckknight: working as intended
18:04.09Repo10zzhuntar: 03Turaka 041.3 * r9 : * Fixed text issue
18:04.24doom0rstew_a: definitely changes on name change and account transfer
18:04.47Gnarfozdoom0r: name change actually keeps the GUID, as long as some retard GM doesn't delete the character... it's just cross battlegroup transfers
18:04.54Kopokopolodoom0r:  then, the only reason for playerguids  is performance?
18:05.03Zergrethwait, OneRing4? did i miss anything? i thought the current One* version was 3?
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18:05.12ckknightZergreth: I meant 3
18:05.13ckknight:P
18:05.14doom0rthen maybe just account transfer
18:05.19BrunersKaelten: on a6 there is a Waiting for curse client to exit that is not closing itselfe :P
18:05.24BrunersKaelten: when you install it
18:05.27GnarfozKopokopolo: obviously, the reason is: <+pastamancer> it lets you differentiate between multiple units with the same name
18:05.28doom0reven if no realm change
18:05.30Zergrethckknight, phew
18:05.51Gnarfozdoom0r: yeah, account transfer will change it, too. had that happen to me because some retard GM fucked up. ^^
18:06.44winkillerwhat exactly fucked up?
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18:07.11KopokopoloGnarfoz: don't know much about wow workings, but I think I understand now
18:07.23TristanianI wonder where ck finds all these cat pictures :p
18:07.42Zergreth4chan? :f
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18:08.05KopokopoloGnarfoz, thanks
18:09.48Gnarfozwinkiller: deleted my character instead of flagging it for rename... then restored it to a GM account instead of mine, then COPIED it to my account... so my old char is still "out there", on some GM account. I saw it go online while I was online on the same char (renamed) when I opened a ticket for them to give me like 5k worth of running auctions and pending mails that were still "in the wild" at the time.
18:10.02winkillerah
18:10.14doom0rwith everything being a unique identifier that doesn't need to be a string or translated from a string, you can make everything so much smoother
18:11.05amoebackknight: Awesome work on PB4 -- just loaded it up and I'm very impressed.
18:11.12ckknightcool
18:11.15ckknightrealize that it's not done yet
18:11.19amoebaYep
18:11.21ckknightbut it is being actively developed
18:11.26amoebaDone enough for full-time use for me.
18:11.26ckknightfeel free to make tickets
18:11.29Zergrethdo you mind if i prefer the default unitframes over pitbull? :/
18:11.30doom0rfor the next 3 weeks or so
18:11.32doom0rthen you're sol
18:11.34doom0rruns
18:11.38ckknightjust use Grid if you wanna raid
18:11.39ckknight:P
18:11.45ckknightZergreth: yes!
18:11.46ckknight:P
18:11.48Zergrethdang
18:11.57AeyanZergreth: I don't even use Pitbull, and yes.
18:12.20TristanianI hope PB4 doesnt require 2 hours of config like PB3 did, well for me at least :p
18:12.30StanzillaIt now requires 3
18:12.34Zergrethwell, maybe i shouldnt have said default. im working on quite some modifications to the default unit frames
18:12.41ckknightTristanian: nah, it's far simpler
18:12.42Zergrethlol @ Stanzilla
18:12.45amoebaIn PB4, just now, it took me 10 minutes to set it all up.
18:12.47Tristanianthank God
18:12.50BrunersKaelten: its seems to be slow
18:12.53ckknightamoeba: hmm... that's a bit long
18:13.16amoebaI was drinking coffee and eating breakfast while doing it.
18:13.24amoebaNumbers may be inaccurate.
18:13.25Zergrethckknight, i dont think so. i take at least 15 minutes for every new addon i install
18:13.27ckknightfair enough
18:13.38amoeba~30 seconds of work
18:13.45Zergrethim a perfectionist, if i dont like something about an addon, im going to change the code :f
18:14.00Tristanianwell testing it in a raid is probably what interests me
18:14.10Tristanianpushing it to its limits
18:15.03ckknightTristanian: well, that's impossible as-is
18:15.10winkillerwhat did I do wrong if I configured PB3 in 15min to 100% usable? o_O
18:15.14Tristanianyes I know it needs work
18:15.21ckknightwinkiller: horrible, horrible things
18:15.32Tristaniangonna give it a try on a simple 10 man later on
18:15.46winkillermaybe using too many features :D
18:15.54winkillers/many/few/
18:16.10ZergrethTristanian, just quickly write your own config mode which displays every possible frame, then update the values of the hp/power in an OnUpdate event every second
18:16.18Zergrethperfect stress test, eh? :f
18:16.26Tristanianblah
18:16.36TristanianI dont need every possible frame :p
18:17.00Zergrethwell, you were talking about pushing it to its limits, so...
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18:17.04Dwarikhey, is there a way to set the location where a ace compatible module/button/frame will be (i want my module to 'move over' some other module)
18:17.07ckknightTristanian: you don't _have_ raid frames in PB4
18:17.12Zergrethmight aswell change the values every 1/10 second :)
18:17.16ckknightnot yet
18:17.20Tristanianah yes I forgot
18:17.22Zergrethwell, okay, makes stress tests impossible. what a shame
18:17.23Zergreth:f
18:17.54Tristanianwell realistically I dont think that anyone would run it will all frames on
18:18.02Tristanianor not dunno :p
18:18.07ckknightuse Grid for raids :P
18:18.21Zergrethdefinately, yup
18:18.30Tristanianusing sraidframes actually
18:18.37Brunersperfectraid über alles
18:18.57ZergrethTristanian, same author as sThreatMeter?
18:19.06Tristanianw/e floats your boat, im just stubborn, addicted to the old ctra style
18:19.17Tristanianno idea Zergreth
18:19.20Zergrethhm
18:19.24Tristanianit was Sharoz I think
18:19.27Zergrethwell, where do you get sRaidFrames?
18:19.28Tristanianthat originally made it
18:19.42Tristanianerr wowace :p
18:19.59Zergrethwhy the "err" D:
18:20.17Gnarfozbecause
18:20.25Tristanianjust seemed obvious to me sorry
18:21.01Zergrethconcerning addons prefixed with a lowercase "s", the obvious to me is that you can only find it with pure magic
18:21.10Tristanianhahah
18:21.17Zergrethat least i couldnt find sThreatMeter after half an hour of google
18:21.25Zergrethwell, somebody gave me a link later
18:21.28Tristaniantrue true
18:30.57Zergrethgotta go, see ya *waves*
18:31.32Sarozyo
18:31.34Sarozhighlights
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18:35.15onaforeignshoreI couldn't find a library for raids similar to the LibGuild-1.0 library, so I've created LibRaid-1.0 based on a modified LibGuild - I've credited LibGuild-1.0 at the top of the file, but I don't know who created the original. Also, I've fixed an error in the LibGuild-1.0 library
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18:39.19erica647I've been going through the forums and the multimedia troubleshooting steps but Banshee Media player is locking as soon as I open it... any ideas what I can check?
18:39.28erica647ooops
18:39.31erica647mt sorry
18:41.31Xinhuanonaforeignshore, what's this libguild do?
18:41.38Xinhuani meanlibraid
18:43.09Xinhuanbecause, chances are, you missed out on LibRoster
18:44.34StanzillaXinhuan: libguild is the smaller rollcall lib
18:44.38StanzillaI think
18:44.53XinhuanLibRollcall != LibRoster
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18:45.10onaforeignshoreLibRoster is Ace2 based, LibGuild and LibRaid are library neutral
18:45.29Xinhuanwhy not just libroster a new version
18:45.35Xinhuaninstead of renaming libraid
18:45.47StanzillaXinhuan: I know, that's why I told you that
18:45.53onaforeignshorelibroster isn't mine...
18:46.02Xinhuanbut the author should be in this channel :)
18:46.06Xinhuanperfectly contactable
18:46.08Stanzillaand pastamancer decided that a new rosterlib is not needed afaik :P
18:46.32Xinhuanis that the case, onaforeignshore?
18:47.04onaforeignshoredon't know if that's true
18:47.14onaforeignshorebut I wanted an Ace3 or neutral lib
18:47.24Zenomanyone have a powerleveling strat for non-raf accounts?
18:47.24Xinhuanpokes pastamancer in the ribs
18:47.37Pneumatuslots and lots of quests
18:47.38Xinhuanzenom, try zygor guides (find a torrent for it)
18:47.41ZenomThis mage is going to kill me getting it to 80 lol, 46 now
18:47.47Gnarfozyeah, quite easy. FOLLOW THE QUESTS. :P
18:47.54Zenomyeah been doing that
18:47.55Pneumatusand hook yourself up with BoAs
18:47.57Gnarfozoh, below 60 :O
18:48.42Zenomyeah 60-80 thats cake, the old world shit is driving me nuts.
18:49.15Brunersyou can do local value1, value2, value3 = 1, 2, 3  right?
18:49.21onaforeignshoreyes
18:49.21Xinhuanyou should ask onaforeignshore :)
18:49.30Xinhuanif yu haven't that is
18:49.46onaforeignshoreXinhuan: ask me what?
18:49.53Xinhuanask pastamancer
18:50.10onaforeignshorewell, he's not available atm :p
18:50.21Xinhuanhe usually is, just hang around
18:51.13NeoTronZenom: for old world stuff, try TourGuide the addon
18:51.16onaforeignshoreI'm slowly getting rid of Ace2 addons in favour of Ace3 ones
18:51.30NeoTronthat's useful all the way to dragonblight for alliance, trhough BC for everyone
18:51.33Gnarfozget rid of useless addons, keep the useful ones
18:51.48Gnarfozthat's a way better exclusion criterium :P
18:51.52NivFreakZenom: step 1 to power leveling, have a prot pally :P
18:52.16ZenomNivFreak: I have an 80 dk, but just seems like it gimps my xp pretty bad.
18:52.21Repo10hellbender-dkp: 03Celess * r57 / (2 files in 2 directories): - general cleanup
18:52.21ZenomWith just the 80 and my 46
18:52.49NivFreakZenom: well you can try it with your DK, take your toon to stratholme
18:52.57NivFreakI go from the back door to the front in 3 pulls
18:53.05Xinhuanis it bad if i'm spending 60% of my raiding time updating DKP site, and 40% actual in game dpsing?
18:53.11NivFreakit's very good XP
18:53.20Pneumatusour DKP guy doesnt do trash
18:53.22NivFreakthen you reset and repeat
18:53.23Pneumatushe does bosses + dkp
18:53.39Xinhuani'm like, stop clearing the trash so fucking fast, i haven't updated the dkp from last boss yet!
18:53.51NivFreakXinhuan: I spend ~2 mins per boss doing DKP (aside from bidding)
18:54.29Xinhuani do dkp site, one rogue does ML, one checks dkp site for who wins item, and the rest clears trash
18:54.45Xinhuanexcept after a 4H kill
18:54.50Repo10hellbender-dkp: 03Celess 04v2.0.2 * r58 : Tagging as 2.0.2
18:54.50Xinhuanwe hang around the stupid chest to loot it
18:54.53Pneumatussounds like you need to use something like HeadCount and an importer that works
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18:55.17Xinhuanheadcount is not a 100% solution, since you often have other ppl sitting out doing dailies and not in the raid
18:55.39Pneumatustrue
18:55.49Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.2.5 * r133 : Tagging as 2.2.5
18:55.50Xinhuanwe'll be like woo 4H down!!! someone runs to the chest and opens a BRD portal on top of it
18:55.55Xinhuanand 3 idiots would click it :D
18:55.58Pneumatusbut if you had an importer you could then add further members too before you commit it to your dkp site
18:56.00Pneumatusthat might help
18:56.05Xinhuanand someone else would put a train set on top of that
18:56.24Pneumatusalso, people that use trainsets in raids need gkicking
18:56.42Xinhuanoh i just lower volume for 30 secs until its over ;p
18:56.52Xinhuanctrl+ and ctrl- are the shortcuts in wow for it
18:56.53NivFreaklol
18:56.59NivFreakctrl-s
18:57.04NivFreakno more sound
18:57.06Pneumatusctrl-s to switch sound off
18:57.13Xinhuanunless your ctrl-s is bound to something else :)
18:57.17Pneumatuswhich i do at the naxx summoning stone
18:57.28NivFreakwhy?
18:57.30Xinhuansee we were talking about train sets in arena
18:57.35Xinhuan"is it usable in arena?"
18:57.40Pneumatusbecause it tends to be a spamfest of flute and trainsets
18:57.41Xinhuan"god it would be funny"
18:57.44NivFreaklol
18:57.49Xinhuan"rogue stealths up behinds you. CHOO CHOO"
18:58.09Xinhuanespecially if its same faction
18:58.48Xinhuan"man that train set totally saved me from being 12k ambushed!"
18:59.34sztanpethaha
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19:24.19toybreakeranyone hearing anything about keyloggers in DBM or Cartographer in the past few days?
19:24.41Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r732 / (2 files in 1 directory): -- Titanium Seal of Dalaran
19:24.43Repo-- Upgrade Custom settings for a button to Ace3Config.
19:24.45Repo-- Water and food should now have identical behavior
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19:37.32Kaeltenanyone have any feedback on Alpha7?
19:38.53Pneumatusdoesnt appear to be any different from a6 other than some icons :UnitCreatureType
19:39.02Pneumatus-unitcreaturetype
19:39.14ckknight+unitcreaturetype
19:41.56KaeltenPneumatus: there is more changes than just that, about 30 tickets worth
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19:44.16Pneumatusjust wish it was faster scanning for updates :<
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19:50.05Kaeltenya
19:50.16Kaeltenwe're going to be focusing on speedups and polish during the beta
19:51.55Pneumatusis the 'slow part' the caluclating the fingerprint of each folder in the addons dir?
19:52.38Xinhuanits probably doing CRC checks or MD5 on every file
19:52.42Fisker-FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
19:52.47Fisker-Can has link Kaelten ?
19:53.17KaeltenPneumatus: actually it's not that bad but it is fairly slow, it does hash every file in your addons directory
19:53.17Xinhuanalthogh i sure hope it isn't doing that on files that are in .git/.svn folders
19:53.36Kaeltenwell relatively slow
19:53.50KaeltenFisker-: install alpha6 and it'll update to 7
19:53.57EthanCentauraiHi Kaelten! Welcome home! Did you enjoy your holiday? :D
19:54.15KaeltenFisker-: static.curseforge.com/client/CurseSetup-2.1.0.0.Alpha6.exe
19:54.27Kaeltenhi ethan, thanks :) been back since monday
19:55.12Droolin curse client alpha - is anyone else seeing the Atlas addon not properly updated to latest version after a refresh?
19:55.22Fisker-still seems to be pretty slow
19:55.31Fisker-atleast compared to pre-alpha
19:56.52Fisker-Is it any better in vista btw?
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19:59.05Pneumatusnah, its slow on vista
19:59.13Pneumatuslike 5 mins or so for an update scan
19:59.16Droolif i update or even reinstall Atlas from scratch using CC, it'll claim to be v1.13.0 and then after a refresh it'll go back to v1.12.3
19:59.51Fisker-FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
20:00.05Fisker-Pneumatus not mention that Vista pretty much goes batshit insane about it
20:00.19Fisker-just got disconnected after 15 minutes in queue :(
20:00.26Fisker-So now i have to go all over again
20:00.32Fisker-wtb Blizzard remembering your place in queue
20:01.09Repo10libhealcomm-3-0: 03jlam * r17 LibHealComm-3.0.lua:
20:01.11RepoFix Tidal Waves calculation for shamans -- the bonus to Healing Wave and Lesser Healing Wave is a passive bonus and doesn't depend on whether the buff is up on the target of the heal.
20:02.20Repo10prat_signon: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.2.5-1-g51fd09e Core.lua: [+1 commit] Fix for UTF-8 characters (thanks zuz666!)
20:03.26EthanCentauraiwell Vista is a pile of shit anyway imo :/
20:03.28EthanCentauraihides.
20:04.13kenlyricengage operating system argument mode
20:04.47ZenomGM response times have been the suck lately.
20:05.09kenlyricthey need a bailout
20:05.28EthanCentauraiI sent in a resume but they rejected me :(
20:06.12Fisker-Vista aint bad anymore
20:06.16EthanCentaurailong walk from Ipswich to Paris anyway :3
20:06.17Fisker-Well not AS bad
20:06.37Fisker-Games are pretty good now though it still lacks a bit in other areas regarding performance
20:06.43Fisker-But Windows 7 will fix that
20:07.53EthanCentauraiI heard that a beta for Windows 7 will be downloadable soon
20:08.10Fisker-Tomorrow
20:08.11kenlyrictomorrow
20:08.32EthanCentauraican't wait for the Mac version of Windows :3
20:08.34nevcairielfree?
20:08.37nevcairielor msdn?
20:08.49EthanCentauraiprobably msdn, didn't say
20:09.34kenlyricmsdn is today
20:09.34Stanzillabeta 1 of 7 is running pretty smooth
20:09.34kenlyriceveryone is tomorrow
20:09.34Stanzillaalready faster than vista
20:09.34nevcairielnice
20:09.34nevcairielgotta try that
20:09.34Stanzillayou just have to get used to the new taskbar
20:09.34kenlyricdamn
20:09.34nevcairielany word on multi-cpu/core support?
20:09.35Stanzillatakes some time but it is pretty cool
20:09.35viisualI heard that the new WMP was eating mp3 files alive.
20:09.35kenlyricI'd try it but I have a mac
20:09.39Stanzillaviisual: fixed today with a patch
20:09.39kenlyrichave to wait for an update to bootcamp.
20:09.57Fisker-nevcairiel better apparently
20:10.15Fisker-viisual don't beta test shit in a working enviroment
20:10.15Fisker-:D
20:10.18Fisker-But it's fixed
20:10.23Fisker-you need to update it though
20:10.28Fisker-but i figure it's on windows update
20:10.31nevcairielhow many bugs do you really notice?
20:10.33Stanzillashould
20:10.38Stanzillanone in beta 1
20:10.42StanzillaI had some in the alphas
20:10.42Fisker-Same here
20:10.44Stanzillabut now..
20:10.49nevcairielsounds nice
20:10.49Stanzillanothing wrong with it
20:10.52viisualI don't beta it, just heard about it.  That shit can release and I'll still be on xp-64
20:10.55nevcairieli know what i'll do tomorrow then
20:11.02KaeltenI've almost got windows 7 downloaded
20:11.07Kaeltengoing to give it a shot
20:11.07Fisker-Haven't been replacing it though
20:11.07Stanzillainstalls in 25min or so
20:11.09Stanzillavery fast
20:11.11Fisker-so take that into consideration
20:11.26Fisker-Some games don't work because of shit like punkbuster
20:11.29Fisker-btw
20:11.33Fisker-aimbot aimbot aimbot aimbot aimbot aimbot aimbot aimbot aimbot aimbot aimbot aimbot aimbot aimbot aimbot aimbot aimbot
20:11.36durcynit seems decent so far.  i hate the 'library' shit they force feed you, and the networking is wonky in tf2 =(
20:11.37nevcairielI only play wow and watch movies
20:11.38Repo10libhealcomm-3-0: 03jlam * r18 LibHealComm-3.0.lua: Remove unused variable buffTidalWaves.
20:11.41Fisker-i hope some of you were playing a punkbuster game right there
20:11.45Stanzillacreative has no drivers yet
20:11.49Stanzillaif you consider using an xfi card
20:11.52nevcairielhm
20:11.59Fisker-pretty big if Stanzilla
20:11.59Fisker-hoho
20:12.02nevcairieli suppose it comes with audigy drivers
20:12.03Stanzilla^^
20:12.14Stanzillaits probably just a stupid os version check in the installer
20:12.16nevcairiel(creative doesnt even have proper vista drivers yet)
20:12.18Stanzillathe driver itself should work
20:12.20Fisker-the thread i saw mentioned windows update drivers
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20:12.31durcynnvidia has beta drivers as well, not sure about ati
20:12.34Fisker-so you'll just get the microsoft ones you usually get
20:12.34Stanzilladidnt get any for my xfi
20:12.47Fisker-threw out his creative card
20:12.51Fisker-they can go to hell
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20:12.58nevcairielI would like to, but i need some decent replacement
20:13.06Fisker-Onboard > Creative unless you pay liek 5 billion for speakers and soundcard
20:13.16EthanCentauraigood evening Tekkub :)
20:13.40nevcairielmy audigy4 has so much better sound quality then my onboard realtec shit
20:13.42Toadkilleri missed the start, but are you having xfi issues on vista?
20:13.46StanzillaFisker-: which mode of the taskbar do you use?
20:13.49nevcairielalso, i have 7.1 speakers, and onboard is 5.1
20:13.49hasteFisker-: onboard cards have tons of static fail
20:13.52NeoTronFisker-: in my experience onboard has horrible quality even with headphones
20:13.55NeoTronas haste said
20:14.04durcynrealtek onboard is garbage, fucking microphone in doesn't even work
20:14.05Nizomihm so any ideas why some addons seem to have problems with acherus flight point?
20:14.06NeoTronthat said, what is a good soundcard?
20:14.19NeoTronfor vista and, I guess, windows 7 if any
20:14.23durcynNeoTron: turtle beach riviera
20:14.28hasteFisker-: try putting an amp. after the onboard - enjoy horribleness
20:14.29ThraeOnboard chipsets are fine when you do SPDIF-out directly to a receiver, but beyond that, Creative is better.
20:14.49NeoTronbecause my audigy 2 card (old one) is rather crappy and the audigy SE card doesn't work for shit (specifically need a pre-amp for the mic)
20:14.53Repo10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r45 / (4 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 4 lines)
20:14.55hasteFisker-: any CPU action will make it generate static
20:14.56RepoBroker_RecZone:
20:14.59Repo- Moved zone information into a separate file
20:15.01Repo- Added option to show if instances are heroic
20:15.04Repo- Added heroic level display
20:15.07nevcairielsadly, creative still has very good cards, short of their non existant drivers and lack of any customer support =P
20:15.18Stanzillaindeed :/
20:15.24ThraeSPDIF-Out passthrough uses almost no CPU
20:15.24NeoTronhaste: that's pretty cheap
20:15.36NeoTron24 bucks. good driver support?
20:15.36hasteNeoTron: hm?
20:15.53Fisker-on the contrary haste
20:16.00NeoTronhaste: sorry, I meant durcyn theer
20:16.02Toadkillerwell xfi was the schnizit, until MS rewrote sound for vista.  Now it is merely great for Xp but suckola on vista.
20:16.12NeoTronmis-aligned lines :P
20:16.13durcynNeoTron: the generic C-media driver is fine
20:16.33durcynNeoTron: either that chipset or if you can find a cirrus logic CS46xx board
20:16.40Arrowmasteri had to stop using my audigy 2 due to static, it picked up any and all static on the pci bus
20:16.56nevcairielI kinda love the stereo-surround mode of my creative
20:16.58NeoTronI definitely don't have super high needs, just want working output and more importantly (it seems) microphone
20:17.02nevcairielwould require that for any new card
20:17.22durcynNeoTron: i like those two specifically for linux support, but they're good chipsets overall
20:17.27hastereal men use M-Audio cards
20:17.51Toadkillerdunno about xp but mic in on vista is a nightmare with my xfi card.  Basically a change requires a reboot making it totall ytedious to find a working setting.
20:18.34durcyndoes there exist an x-fi with a rear mic input?  that was the deal-breaker for me last time i tried one
20:18.41durcynall kinds of noise on the front-panel cable
20:18.54Toadkillerrear as in out the back panel of the card?
20:18.57durcynyes
20:19.05Toadkilleryeah, thats how im hooked up
20:19.20durcynwhich version do you have?
20:19.30Toadkilleralways too lazy or have incompatible mb vs front panel connectors
20:19.36Stanzillahttp://i43.tinypic.com/hwwe55.png < my 7 taskbar
20:19.41StanzillaFisker-: ^
20:19.47Repo10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r46 / (2 files in 2 directories): Broker_RecZone:
20:19.49ToadkillerI think i have fatal1ty
20:19.50Repo- Ticket 8: Added option to not show level range in the label
20:20.50ToadkillerI dont think its even legal for a sound card not to have back connectors.  They always have and they always will unless some miraculous new standard gets adopted
20:21.26durcynthis was the normal x-fi xtreme pci-express, it had a shared line-in/mic jack that didn't bloody work
20:22.51ToadkillerIt probably works but you need the right driver and some magical settings.  I just got extremely lucky on vista that I happened to reboot with a working setting.  (it was totally non-functional b4 the reboot as changed settings didnt take without reboot).  Which is total crap imo.
20:23.23NeoTronseems creative is pretty fail in general
20:23.29NeoTronin terms of drivers I mean
20:23.35Arrowmasteralways
20:23.39Fisker-nooooooooooo
20:23.41Fisker-NOOOOOOO
20:23.43Fisker-FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU-
20:23.58Fisker-i can't use that trick to take no fall damage against mind control
20:24.09ToadkillerAre they also the same dumbasses that have a conflicting dll name with HP printers?
20:24.12Grumyou mean bubble?
20:24.42Repo10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r131 LibLordFarlander-Glory-3.0/LibLordFarlander-Glory-3.0.lua: LibLordFarlander-2.0:
20:24.44Repo- Glory-3.0: Small SotA update
20:24.52Fisker-no Grum
20:25.00Grumhe updated the gloryhole O.O
20:25.11Fisker-http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=BJP73vSNRF0 <-never have you seen something so awesome
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20:25.28ToadkillerI always intend to check out the kool new features in the farlander lib but never get around to it.
20:25.37Repo10broker_battlegroundfu: 03LordFarlander * r5 / (2 files in 2 directories): Broker_BattlegroundFu
20:25.39Repo- Arena updates
20:25.47Toadkiller*pardon me, Lord Farlander
20:26.14Xinhuanckknight
20:26.16Fisker-SEE IT GRUM
20:26.20ckknightXinhuan
20:26.22Xinhuanhttp://www.wowace.com/admin/reports/515-pages_page-repository-keyword-substitutions/
20:26.30Xinhuansame bug as the one the other day?
20:26.36Xinhuanfor lib stripping
20:26.42ckknightI fixed it
20:26.52ckknightlemme test, though
20:26.55ckknightjust to make sure
20:26.56Xinhuanso close ticket as fixed? it was posted today
20:27.02Xinhuanthe ticket that is
20:27.21GrumFisker-: i think those videos are made so you try it .. and die
20:27.52Grumand then we /point&/laugh
20:33.19Fisker-they're not?
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20:33.59Repo* Create spell-specific tables of totems (relics) which affect those spells.
20:34.02Repo* Update lists of totems for WotLK.
20:36.14Repo10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r91 TestAlpha.lua: testing @debug@
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20:56.51Xinhuanhow does this work
20:56.57Xinhuanhttp://armorylite.com/score/us/blackrock/5
20:57.14Xinhuancan't find any faq on how they calculate "gear score"
20:58.21pompyby item level maybe?
20:58.27nevcairielusually its just all item levels added
20:59.06nevcairielwhy is the first page on overall score so full of warriors o.O
20:59.22Xinhuani really doubt its ilvl based
20:59.45nevcairieltry to sum all yours
20:59.45nevcairieland see
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20:59.45Xinhuanbecause that site is telling me i'm the 2nd best geared mage on alliance blackrock
20:59.50Xinhuani'm still wearing 7 items of 200 ilvl
21:00.07Xinhuanthe rest are 213/226
21:00.10pompyforce updates on all the other mages listed on there on ur server lol
21:00.18thulcainadamsson has 4,000 pageviews total and his 391 deviations were viewed 15,900 times
21:00.21thulwuwu
21:00.45Xinhuan#7 and #10 (me) are alliance, the rest are horde
21:00.48Xinhuanmostly in DnT
21:01.14Xinhuanlet me add the ilvls lol
21:01.56Brunersim the 4th best DK !
21:02.09Fisker-i'm so ronery nevcairiel :(
21:02.12Fisker-I want a GTX 285
21:02.54Xinhuani have 3504 ilvl worth of items worn, the site says i have a score of 3714
21:03.05Xinhuanthat's a score difference of 210
21:03.30NivFreakI'm 3733
21:03.41Xinhuani didn't add in my tabard/shirt ilvl of course
21:03.46nevcairielmaybe it gives you points for full profession skill or somesuch :P
21:04.00Arrowmasterrofl wtf, my guild mate has the highest gear score on that site of anybody on the server
21:04.02Xinhuanand i'm not sure if it accounts for rare gems vs say crap gems
21:04.16Arrowmasterhttp://armorylite.com/score/us/burning%20legion
21:04.18nevcairielimho it shouldnt count offhand slots, some clases wear 2hands
21:04.59nevcairieli steal wear a lvl70 trinket, guess that pulls me down
21:05.11nevcairielbut healer trinkets in l80 content are either sucky or rare
21:05.17nevcairielsteal=still
21:05.21NeoTronXinhuan: heh it says I'm the 4th best geared DK on Kilrogg
21:05.22nevcairielwtf am i typing =P
21:05.23Arrowmasternevcairiel: look at burning legion, my guildmate has #1 with an illidan trinket on
21:05.26NeoTronthat sounds weird
21:05.43XinhuanNeoTron, i killed sarth3d today with no holy priests ;p
21:05.44nevcairielArrowmaster: is he a warrior?
21:05.50Arrowmasterpallidin
21:06.10NivFreakXinhuan: this site seems to have a distinct lack of people
21:06.12nevcairielfor some reason overall rankings has like a full page full of warriors at the top
21:06.26Xinhuanprobably because tanks are defaulted gear
21:06.31Xinhuanso they are probably ilvl higher?
21:06.54Xinhuani know 2 tanks in my guild have [Epic] achievement completed
21:07.00Xinhuani'm like half done
21:07.08NivFreakwhat tank trinket do they use that's ilvl 213? :P
21:07.25nevcairielparry one from sapphiron maybe
21:07.29NivFreakthat one sucks ass
21:07.37nevcairielif noone wants it, you take =P
21:07.45NeoTronwe have an epic priest
21:07.49NeoTronI'm quite a bit away from that
21:07.53NivFreakno one in thier right mind would want it
21:07.58NivFreakall I need is a 213 trinket though
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21:08.00NivFreakI want grim toll
21:08.10NivFreakwtb hit cap
21:08.32NeoTronGloves, boots, trinket, cloak, shoulders and bracers
21:08.40Xinhuani have a [Bandit's Insignia]
21:08.44nevcairieli'm too lazy to check
21:08.46Xinhuanand i'm a mage
21:08.53Xinhuanbecause nobody bidded
21:09.02Xinhuan(all hoarding)
21:09.13Xinhuaneverybody thought everyone else (at least someone) would bid
21:09.15Xinhuanbut nobody did
21:09.18pompyXinhuan: this is how its calculated http://armorylite.com/forums/?f=1&t=6
21:09.19Arrowmasterwhats that?
21:09.41Xinhuan190 atk power passive trinket, with chance to proc 2k damage on melee/ranged hit
21:10.05Fisker-WTB librams that's not shit
21:10.11pentium166and they defaulted it to a mage?
21:10.15Arrowmasternevcairiel: look at that forum post, they count 2 handers higher, thats probably why the warriors are leading
21:10.27nevcairielArrowmaster: stupid TG
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21:10.38NivFreaklol
21:10.46NivFreakno wonder all these fury warrior are above me then
21:11.17NivFreakmy fury warrior is close to me
21:11.20Xinhuanaha i see
21:11.21NivFreakand he shouldn't be really
21:11.27Xinhuanso its purely ilvl based
21:11.34Xinhuanand not whether the item is actually good for your class or not
21:11.40Arrowmasterilvl and item quality
21:11.47Xinhuan[equips my bandit's insignia and logs off]
21:11.47NeoTronI think armorylite doesn't actually go scrape armory unless the profile has been seen on the site before
21:11.55Arrowmasteraka its a loot whore meter
21:12.11NivFreakyea, I used to have a pose gear set I would log out in
21:12.14NivFreakfor sites like this
21:12.18NivFreakall my highest ilvl gear
21:12.47pentium166i'm still using the 70 badge totem and shard of contempt :(
21:13.14NivFreakI finally replaced my blackened naruu trinket in my dps set :P
21:13.24Repo10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r47 Broker_RecZone.lua: Broker_RecZone:
21:13.26Repo- Can now also determine info about an unknown zone via GetZonePVPInfo
21:14.21pentium166the melee totems are all kind of the same
21:14.51Xinhuan[1/9 05:10:01] <pentium166> and they defaulted it to a mage? <-- i'm the disenchanter ;p
21:15.02pentium166oh
21:15.15pentium166you should start collecting a melee set
21:15.26Xinhuani would run out of bag space
21:15.32Xinhuani already have loads of RP stuff
21:15.32NeoTronbecause a priest int he guild didn't show up but after I viewed his profile he was 3rd priest (he's our only 'epic' achiever so far)
21:15.32pentium166druid staff in 3.0.8!
21:15.40Repo10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r48 Broker_RecZone.lua: Broker_RecZone:
21:15.44Repo- Insert unknown zones into the zone list when they are detected so "Unknown zone detected" print will only happen once a login
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21:15.57pentium166it would only be ... 7 slots i think, since there's no melee cloth
21:16.57pentium166epic is an ilevel 200 epic in every slot?
21:17.05pentium166200+
21:17.06nevcairiel213
21:17.08pentium166oh
21:18.08nevcairielfor some classes that means you have to get some crap to just get the achievement
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21:18.16nevcairielor you wait for ulduar =P
21:18.51Xinhuanso ckknight, is the repo tag keywords thing fixed?
21:19.14ckknighto noes
21:19.15ckknightit's bugged
21:19.19ckknightgoes to fix
21:19.26pentium166if you're only doing 10 mans and the occasional 25 man pug, waiting for ulduar is probably the only option there :p
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21:20.37Repo10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r92 TestAlpha.lua: Blah!
21:20.46NeoTronlikely yes
21:21.04NivFreakNeoTron: you guys reformed as a 25man guild again right?
21:21.04pentium166if only we could clone ourselves to do 25 mans
21:21.20NivFreakpentium166: they are so easy atm, you could carry half a raid :P
21:21.56pentium166it's not the carrying i mind, it's the finding 10-12 people who aren't asshats
21:24.56pentium166we were kind of carrying a bunch of people through tier 4 and starting into tier 5 when they basically stopped showing up
21:25.33pentium166and haven't bothered seriously looking for another guild to run with since then
21:26.34Xinhuanckknight, fixed yet? i want to close the ticket ;p
21:27.05ckknightyes, crisis averted
21:27.05ckknight:-)
21:27.15Xinhuanchuckles
21:28.08Pneumatushmm, debian finally pushed a new release :o
21:30.16ckknightPneumatus: just a revision of 4.0, though
21:30.32Pneumatusyeh, but it doesnt happen often :o
21:31.09Pneumatussarge was like 2005 wasnt it
21:31.47ckknightsomething like thata
21:31.53ckknightwe're on Etch now, though
21:32.40Pneumatusetch is 4 and lenny is the new test, right?
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21:34.09Vangualit's so awesome when maly in p1 lands way before anyone else -.-
21:34.30ckknightyes, Pneumatus
21:34.48NeoTronNivFreak: correct
21:35.10NeoTronNivFreak: just finished clearing all content last night with Malygos. now we just got Sartharion + drakes left (and more achievements of course)
21:35.22NivFreakditto
21:35.31NivFreakwe're going to try 2 drakes next week
21:35.35NivFreakwe've tried none so far
21:35.48NeoTronlast time we did sartharion we had less than 20 people I think
21:35.53NeoTronso not a good time to play with drakes :P
21:36.00NivFreakhah
21:36.06NivFreakwe've just not tried
21:36.20NivFreakbut we're going to start next week since we have no content to do :P
21:36.25Pkekyo|thul: here?
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21:43.07NeoTronwe will try two drakes tonight
21:43.17NeoTronand 1 hr before end of raid, if not successful, we'll move down to 1 drake
21:43.56Pkekyo|no thul...let's hope he's wearing a helmet :)
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21:47.23viisualNeoTron, what is the order of easiness on the drakes?
21:47.44Gnarfoz+1, +2, +3.
21:47.44Gnarfoz:p
21:47.50NeoTronwas about to say... :P
21:47.57NeoTronthe drake one has least effect on the main tanks
21:48.03viisualThe way you mix and match them though...
21:48.07Gnarfozyou don't
21:48.09Gnarfoz:D
21:48.17Gnarfozjust to them in the order they come when you do +3
21:48.20Gnarfoz*do them
21:48.21nevcairielif you do 2, kill the one with the immunity shield
21:48.21viisualOh, kill one, another comes, kill one, another comes
21:48.28nevcairielif you do 3
21:48.32nevcairieltake the order they come =P
21:48.41viisualIt's like foreach($drakeArr as $drake) { $drake->Spawn(); }, got it.
21:48.47NeoTronwhich one is the one with immunity shield?
21:48.50GnarfozShadron
21:48.55NeoTronthe hp reduce or fire dmg ?
21:48.59nevcairieli always get their names messed up
21:49.04GnarfozTenebron: eggs
21:49.08GnarfozShadron: shield
21:49.10Pneumatuseasiest way to do 2 drakes is 1st and 3rd
21:49.14GnarfozVesperon: stupid debuff
21:49.25nevcairielshadron is just annoying
21:49.26GnarfozPneumatus: yes, which means: "kill shadron" ^^
21:49.43viisualDo you just burn the drakes, ignore portals?
21:50.01nevcairielon 2 drakes with shadron dead, yea
21:50.07nevcairielon 3 drakes, not so much
21:50.20Gnarfozon 3 drakes... you can ignore tenebrons and shadrons
21:50.27Gnarfozat least, that's a possible way of doing it
21:50.40Gnarfoztenebron should simply die anyway :p
21:50.40viisualWhat would be easier with 1 drake, tenenbaum, or shadey
21:50.41NeoTronyou ignore the eggs?
21:50.56nevcairieljust pick up the drakes when they spawn
21:51.01Gnarfozwe mop 'em up with a tank
21:51.04viisualWhat if you have 3 dks, and they all just cast Howling Blast on the eggs tho
21:51.18Gnarfozthen... you still lose time
21:51.22Gnarfozwith portal transitions etc
21:51.32viisual... yea and they can just HB the drakes I guess =P (and the dragon)
21:51.37Gnarfozthe problem is the other drakes coming into the fight
21:51.45Gnarfozwhich is purely time based
21:51.45Pkekyo|what's with anti-israel demonstrations always turning violent?
21:51.49NeoTronso shadron is the +fire dmg debuff
21:51.59GnarfozPkekyo|: what's with politics belonging in #politics101
21:52.02NeoTronwhat does the fire breath hit for in that case?
21:52.05GnarfozNeoTron: yes
21:52.11Gnarfoz+100% obviously!
21:52.12viisual25% more?
21:52.12Gnarfoz:D
21:52.23viisualOh it's 100, dan
21:52.26viisual+ an m
21:52.29Pkekyo|Gnarfoz: well, the conflict is rather relevant when it comes to kit :p
21:52.37NeoTronI don't know how much it hits normally
21:52.41GnarfozPkekyo|: to what
21:52.58NeoTronup to 14k it seems so up to 28k
21:53.07Pkekyo|nevermind, I just realized I'm sodding about in the wrong channel :p
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21:54.52NeoTronwhy is shadron easier than vesperon?
21:57.05Pkekyo|anyone know what happened to the Improved Slam talent?
21:57.13GnarfozNeoTron: because of the mechanics of his debuff :\
21:58.07PrimerI'm syncing both my WTF and AddOns directories between my 2 machines which both have 19" LCDs running at 1280x1024, yet, on the machine that's receiving the files, many of the graphical elements are not in the same position as the other machine
21:58.12Primerwhat could explain this?
21:58.34GnarfozNeoTron: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=58835
21:58.59GnarfozPrimer: does "you're doing it wrong" count?
22:00.00Primerno
22:00.26viisualWipe your interface folder, and wtf folder.  Copy those two into your new machine, as long as it's same account/server/character it will be fine.
22:00.53viisualIf it's a differant char/server you need to manually edit the WTF saved variables path.
22:01.21BrunersGnarfoz: different gfx card?
22:01.21viisual:) had to do it for multiboxing, you want to set up 4 interfaces, or just 1... I wanted to do just 1 =P
22:01.31BrunersGnarfoz: or drivers
22:01.32Primerrsync --delete
22:01.36Primeralready wipes what's not there
22:01.54Primerso the 2 machine's WTF and AddOn directories are _identical_
22:02.37Fisker-Gnarfoz
22:02.38Primercould it be something in Config.wtf?
22:02.38Fisker-you owe me
22:02.51viisualDoubt it, that's just client settings I think
22:02.52Primerthat's not synced, as it can't be, since I'm playing in Linux on the target machine
22:03.11Primerand I need certain graphical settings to be different, but not the resolution
22:03.28viisualPrimer, your logging into the same account on both machines, and they look different with the same setup?
22:03.34Primeryes
22:03.50Primersome elements are simply offset
22:03.58Primersome to the right, some to the left
22:04.10Primerbut not up or down
22:04.18BrunersPrimer: different gfx card, driver, os ?
22:04.26viisualyes to all I think =P
22:04.30Primeron all counts
22:04.38Brunersthere you go
22:04.40Brunersthats why
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22:04.51Primersource box is XP, target is Linux
22:05.14Brunersdifferent ways of drawing shit
22:05.32PrimerI don't get how that can be
22:05.43PrimerI mean, if I set windows to use opengl, perhaps it'd be the same?
22:06.12GnarfozFisker-: that goes both ways, sir
22:06.15Brunersif you have two painters to paint the same picture, they wont match
22:06.18viisualOpenGL 0,0 is top left, Direct X is bottomr right, or something like that it's been 2 years
22:06.29Brunersthey look the same but wont be identical
22:06.53Gnarfozuse a decent OS on both!
22:06.55Gnarfozproblem solved
22:07.01Gnarfoz</bait>
22:08.09ckknightick
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22:08.12Primerif I could get vent to work properly in Linux, I would
22:08.17ckknight0,0 should be either the center or the bottom-left, imo
22:08.36ckknightviisual: why bottom-right? that makes little sense
22:08.37Gnarfozthat doesn't make any sense, what so ever
22:08.41Gnarfoz;D
22:08.50onaforeignshoreM$ makes sense? since when?
22:09.06Gnarfozsaying "M$" doesn't make sense, you're certainly right about that
22:09.16ckknighttrue
22:09.22ckknightit makes you seem like a whiny fanboi
22:09.32viisualckknight, I think it's bottomleft = opengl, and topleft = directx
22:09.39ckknightviisual: ah
22:09.43ckknightwell, both of those make sense
22:09.45viisualfor 0,0 in their coordinates.
22:09.46nevcairielnah opengl has topleft
22:09.49Gnarfozanyway, the dx guys decided on their thing, the ogl guys on theirs... and I don't think they'll ever change just because something else would be "better" ^^
22:09.55viisualand the matricies are differant as well, wich is a world of annoying when making games
22:10.14viisualnevcairiel, thanks for saving me the trouble of searching on google ;)
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22:11.09nevcairielor was it lower left..
22:11.11nevcairielchecks
22:11.32viisualhttp://www.gamedev.net/community/gds/viewentry.asp?projectid=498988 - we used OpenGL ;D
22:11.45Repo10big-wigs: 03cremor * r4896 / (36 files in 5 directories):
22:11.48RepoBig deDE update. Fixed many spelling and grammar mistakes, added missing translations etc. Also replaced all escape codes with the correct unicode chars for better code readability.
22:11.53nevcairielbeen 6 month or so since i used opengl
22:11.58nevcairieli forget details like that
22:12.16viisualYea it's one of those things, you get in the IDE and hit compile, and if shits backwards you flip it =P
22:13.17viisualAlthough that doesn't work in 3d space, cause when you see a black screen it's very possible the object your rendering is just behind the camera *headaches*
22:13.31nevcairielhaha yeah
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22:13.44nevcairielbut then you could just write a simple rotation via keyboard
22:13.53nevcairieli usually copy that from earlier projects when starting
22:14.05viisualThat's what it comes down to, making camera movement before anything else =D
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22:15.23kapowazHi there. I'm wondering if anybody knows if there's a way to query a tradeskill value with a Lua function?
22:15.41kapowazI'm looking at the various API methods on WoWWiki, but I don't see what that seems to do that. Is there one?
22:16.53viisualstep 1) ctrl + f, step 2) 'tradeskill' || 'trade', I'll even help
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22:17.21viisualhttp://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#TradeSkill_Functions
22:17.22viisualoooh
22:17.41viisualhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetTradeSkillInfo perhaps
22:17.46kapowaznope. tried that one.
22:17.57kapowazno need for the attitude
22:17.59viisualWhat do you mean by 'tradeskill value', I'm confused by the value.
22:18.06viisualHey, I'm helping arn't i?
22:18.08kapowazas in, your skill level of that skill
22:18.11viisualgotcha
22:18.17kapowazwell so far you've not told me anything I didn't already know :)
22:18.22kapowazbut if you can expand on that...
22:18.48kapowazto cut to the end, basically I want to be able to macro my profession link but have my skill level in the macro
22:19.08kapowazso it says (for example) "WTS [Enchanting] skill 400"
22:19.10viisualIt may not be a 'tradeskill' function but a player or unit function to get the skill, *continues looking*
22:19.15kapowazok.
22:21.31viisualhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSkillLineInfo
22:21.37viisual4th param you want.
22:22.19viisualHowever, it works of index, not id
22:22.28viisualSo... your going to need to iterate through this I believe: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetNumSkillLines
22:22.31viisualbut don't hold me to that
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22:22.58Repo- fixed babble zone reference (caused lua error)
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22:23.51kapowazI could provide it with a hardcoded value, presumably?
22:23.53onaforeignshoreanyone have a suggestion to replace cowtip with?
22:24.06PrimerI use tinytip
22:24.22viisualI use tinytip as well.
22:24.24kapowazand (I'm not massively familiar with Lua, although I know other languages) - how would I address a specific returned element?
22:24.28viisuallocal numSkills = GetNumSkillLines();
22:24.28viisualfor i=1, numSkills do
22:24.28viisual<PROTECTED>
22:24.30viisualend
22:24.56viisualdo a comparison on skillName and when true, print the skillRank and test.
22:25.08kapowazcan this all be done within a macro?
22:25.12Brunersname a small and awesome mailmod
22:25.45viisualProbably, I've never tried really writing macros, they have to be condensed to 256 lines and start to lose readability... someone else may be able to help you with that.
22:25.51viisuallines = characters.
22:25.54kapowazahh, there's an example of how to do that in the wiki
22:26.52Repo10procodile: 03Zarnivoop 043.0-12 * r76 :
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22:27.40kapowazI'll need a way of outputting the skill link as well
22:27.48kapowazbut I think there are examples of that on (say) wowhead
22:28.39viisualYou just want a macro that exports like: /2 Enchanter LFW (SKILL_LEVEL) [LINK]
22:29.31kapowazyeah
22:29.39kapowazI already have most of that
22:29.48kapowazlike, except the SKILL_LEVEL part
22:30.02viisualWhat skill?
22:30.07kapowazenchanting
22:30.21kapowazis there an alternative to DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME that addresses chat output?
22:31.05durcynkapowaz: another chat frame, or just print()
22:31.32durcynif you're using ace2 or ace3, use the self:Print() mixin
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22:31.57viisualdurcyn, He'd like it in a macro =X
22:31.59kapowazdurcyn: sadly this isn't for an addon :( just within a macro
22:32.18kapowazan addon for this might be overkill, although I imagine there are tradebarkers out there that will probably do what I'm after.
22:32.22onaforeignshoretinytooltip doesn't appear in the Tooltip category, it's in the Unit Frames category?
22:32.24kapowazstill, I like learning this stuff
22:35.47ckknightkapowaz: /script print("Zomg")
22:35.51ckknightkapowaz: or /print "Zomg"
22:36.16kapowazckknight: that outputs it as if I'd typed it?
22:36.26ckknightyou could try it.
22:36.51kapowazdoesn't appear to...
22:37.06Xinhuanis your default frame in view?
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22:37.15kapowazwhat's the string concatenation operator?
22:37.18Xinhuan..
22:37.18kapowazfor lua?
22:37.22kapowazok
22:37.23Xinhuanyes, 2 dots
22:37.48kapowazhmm. that's not doing it... it's just outputting that in white as if it were a system message
22:37.59Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1335 AckisRecipeList.lua: More debug messages for missing ID's... just for you Jim!
22:38.03Repo10libhealcomm-3-0: 03jlam * r20 LibHealComm-3.0.lua:
22:38.05RepoTidal Waves only affects the bonus healing, not the total effective healing, so move the multiplier into the bonus healing calculation instead.
22:38.21Xinhuanthat's what you said you wanted ;p
22:38.29viisualkapowaz what's your chars name, and are you able to test for me atm? (e.g. in game)
22:38.44Xinhuanif you're actually trying to send text to an ingame channel, you need a totally different approach
22:38.58kapowazwell that's what I'm trying to do, yes
22:39.01kapowazto the trade channel
22:39.10Brunersonaforeignshore: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/tiny-tip.aspx
22:39.13kapowazI'm in-game right now, yes
22:39.22Xinhuantry this page kapowaz: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendChatMessage
22:41.02viisualTry this, it's more than likely going to blow up:
22:41.05viisual./script for i=1,GetNumSkillLines() do a,_,_,b=GetSkillLineInfo(i); if a == "Enchanting" then SendChatMessage("Enchanter LFW" .. "[" .. c .. "]","SAY");
22:43.00AckisWorkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetTradeSkillListLink isn't what you're after?
22:43.16kapowazwell, this works:
22:43.25kapowaz/script array = {GetSkillLineInfo(6)}
22:43.32kapowaz/script SendChatMessage("Skill " .. array[4], "SAY");
22:43.47kapowazbut replacing SAY with 2 doesn't direct it to trade
22:43.55Repo10vendorsearch: 03adriweb 04v0.1 * r3 : empty
22:44.16viisualI didn't want you to redirect to trade just yet, it's not done =P
22:44.21Repo10vendorsearch: 03adriweb * r4 alpha2/: alpha2
22:44.28viisualUnless you consider trade yoru personal debug channel... lol
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22:44.45kapowazheh
22:44.46viisualAckisWork, that was the next stap thanks ;D
22:44.47kapowazthis is true :)
22:44.51thulOriginally Posted by Zyla View Post
22:44.51AckisWorkeh I'd just parse the tradeskill link, only conidtion is that you need to open up enchanting first
22:44.52thulI mean christ, cunnilingus is much like being a resto shaman, you spam the button and let it do the work. So long as you change targets as appropriate you don't need to put any thought into it.
22:45.28PneumatusArrowmaster: noticed you were moaning about CT_RA in an ora2 commit, i thought ctmod had dropped it and its died?
22:45.56AckisWork|cffffd000|Htrade:27028:375:375:3111EE:xG{ ... = tradeskill link, just parse it to get the name/max skill level (first 375) and then you have a macro that will spam trade chat with whatever prof you have open
22:46.20kapowazAckisWork: ideally I'd like not to need to do that step
22:46.28kapowazso that I can just fire it off from a toolbar as I'm running around etc.
22:46.46PneumatusAs of WoW version 3.0, the following mods are being discontinued: CT_RaidAssist, CT_UnitFrames
22:47.56viisualThis will send to trade, if it doens't break:
22:48.01viisual<PROTECTED>
22:48.09AckisWorkthere's probably an open trade skill function, if not a /cast Enchanting should work, followed by a CloseTradeSkill()
22:48.17viisual^
22:48.58AckisWorkI think that'll fail tbh
22:49.08viisualI wouldn't know, I'm not at home yet ;)
22:49.16thul478 defence now.. juhu, getting closer :-P
22:49.29Pneumatusthat does work
22:49.35Pneumatuswell, /cast <skill>
22:50.15AckisWorkviisual: you'll prolly want a mutli line macro to be super lazy
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22:50.27onaforeignshore("..c..") should be ("..b.") shouldn't it?
22:50.41viisualWhy I hate scripts, because of the annoying variables =P
22:50.49kapowazheh, WoW just crashed
22:50.52viisualrofl
22:50.56kapowazunstable as hell nowadays
22:50.57viisualim in ur keyz!
22:51.04kapowaznot sure if that's because of the addons I'm running...
22:52.05Repo10gathermate: 03Xinhuan * r638 Constants.lua:
22:52.09RepoAdd special deDE fix because "Battered Chest" (id 502) and "Tattered Chest" (id 503) both translate to "Ramponierte Truhe" which cause reverse lookup on id 502 to fail.
22:53.52kapowazviisual: was that code missing an 'end' somewhere?
22:53.58kapowazit bugs with an error message about that
22:54.45kapowazis it for ... do ... end ?
22:54.50onaforeignshoreyes
22:54.55AckisWorkhttp://mibbit.com/pb/6M3DqF
22:55.00viisual2 actually
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22:55.20viisualjust add "end end" at the end of the script, see if that does it.
22:55.32AckisWorkviisual: I like mine better :P no for loop
22:55.39viisualn-order plz
22:55.48kapowaz'attempt to concatenate a nil value'
22:55.55viisualanything else?
22:55.59viisualoh nm
22:56.16kapowazI can just use GetSkillLineInfo(x) and hardcore the line
22:56.19kapowazfor now it's unlikely to change
22:56.24kapowazhardcode even
22:56.33viisualissue: .." "..GetTradeSkillListLink()
22:57.02AckisWorkjust use GetTradeSkillLine instead of GetSkillLineInfo
22:57.55viisualMight work: /script for i=1,GetNumSkillLines() do a,_,_,b=GetSkillLineInfo(i); if a == "Enchanting" then SendChatMessage("Enchanter LFW".."("..c..")".." "..GetSpellLink(7411), 2);end end
22:58.13AckisWorkno that won't work
22:58.18viisualwont =P
22:58.31AckisWorkmeh w/e
22:58.32AckisWork:P
22:58.49AckisWorktry the code I pasted, I'm curious if it blows up
22:58.57kapowazdoesn't GetTradeSkillListLink() need an argument?
22:59.02AckisWorkno
22:59.11kapowazit's based on there being a tradeskill window open?
22:59.12viisualIt requires enchanting window to be open right?
22:59.16AckisWorkit takes the currently open tradeskill window
22:59.18viisualjust put /cast Enchanting in your macro ?
22:59.21viisualno
22:59.30viisual./cast !Enchanting
22:59.36AckisWorkwhy !?
22:59.37viisualit wont close it if open
22:59.38viisual?
23:00.11kapowazwhat does ./cast do?
23:00.25Repo10libhealcomm-3-0: 03jlam * r21 LibHealComm-3.0.lua: Fix Chain Heal size estimate:
23:00.26Pneumatuscasts a spell in your spellbook
23:00.28Repo* Improved Chain Heal and Purification talents are additive in their effects, not multiplicative.
23:00.29viisualwell the . makes it post into IRC
23:00.31Repo* Unlike the totems for LHW and HW, the totems that affect Chain Heal increase the base amount healed, not the spellpower of the healing spell.  Move the totem bonus so that this is accurately computed in the effective heal.
23:01.06viisual. /cast !Enchanting should always open your enchanting window, being the dependency for GetTradeSkillListLink() to work.
23:04.35kapowazright
23:04.37kapowazI'm almost there
23:04.44kapowazI just need to add the thing to close it
23:04.53viisualAckis knows I think
23:05.05AckisWorkdidn't you see my pastey?
23:05.05viisualin fact /cast Enchanting may even work.
23:05.24viisualI did, but my client sucks, if I scroll up and someone types anything it auto-scrolls to that message
23:05.34kapowazviisual: yup, that did it
23:05.54kapowazthe only possible problem is with the tradeskill window forcing some other open window to shut
23:06.02kapowazand I get a very quick sound effect of it opening and shutting :)
23:06.20viisualAs an alternative kapowaz, try looking at this to see another approach: http://mibbit.com/pb/6M3DqF
23:06.42viisualI think he wins with less characters, dammit
23:06.48onaforeignshoreyou can do /use instead and save 1 whole character every time :p
23:06.56viisual^ rofl
23:07.18kapowazthat's almost exactly what I'm doing :)
23:07.37kapowazI have actually used descriptive variable names though ;)
23:07.40Xinhuanckknight, the admin activity log dropdown search filter for "Type" isn't working - intended?
23:07.53AckisWorkviisual: mine also has no for loop, and can be expanded to any other class with a change of the "/use" thingy :D lol
23:07.56ckknightno, Xinhuan
23:07.58kapowaz/script _,_,_,_skillValue=GetSkillLineInfo(7)
23:08.09Xinhuan"Action" dropdown search filters correctly
23:08.16Xinhuan"Type" doesn't do anything
23:08.23kapowazokay. so this works so long as I'm outputting with "SAY" as the second argument of SendChatMessage()
23:08.28kapowazbut if I replace it with 2, it errors
23:08.47viisualGot to look up SendChatMessage() in the api
23:09.21viisualyou want...
23:09.27viisualreplace "SAY" with "channel"
23:09.42viisualSendChatMessage("Message Here", "channel", 'nil', 2);
23:09.44viisualthat's trade.
23:10.13kapowazahh
23:10.23Repo10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1336 / (3 files in 2 directories): AckisRecipeList:
23:10.25Repo- fixed engineering vendor and trainer references (caused lua errors)
23:11.28onaforeignshoreor SendChatMessage("Go away", "whisper", nil, "viisual")  :p
23:11.37kapowazwe have a winner!
23:11.40kapowazhttp://pastie.org/356164
23:12.00onaforeignshoreviisual: why 'nil' and not nil ?
23:12.14viisualrofl, in php habbit atm at 5:11
23:13.50Xinhuanckknight, want me to make a ticket, or you will just fix it because its probably a 1 line fix? ;p
23:14.26kapowazargh. it's mysteriously stopped working.
23:14.41kapowazworked once then stopped
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23:15.28kapowazI think thought
23:15.31kapowazI'll give up there :)
23:15.36kapowazgetting late, and I need my sleep
23:15.46viisualUse Ackis's
23:15.59ckknightXinhuan: lemme check
23:16.05viisualHe has his own trade skill addon, why trust me?
23:16.11kapowazheh
23:17.10kapowazwas his the mibbit link?
23:17.47viisualhttp://mibbit.com/pb/6M3DqF
23:17.49kapowazthat one errors for me :|
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23:17.55viisualHAH!
23:19.14kapowazah well.
23:19.21kapowazout of interest, do you guys know how to delete macros?
23:19.26kapowazthe delete button is always greyed out for me
23:19.44kapowazah. it's only greyed out. doesn't mean it doesn't work!
23:19.47kapowazgulps
23:19.51kapowazbad UI
23:20.17thulwgaht ui?
23:20.42kapowazthe macro window
23:21.00kapowazthe Delete button is greyed out as if it's disabled, but if you click it, it does actually delete the selected macro
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23:22.29AckisWorkwow who would've thought stalking an ex-gf would be hard, sheesh :P
23:22.37viisualrofl?
23:23.06Dashkalmmm, creepy moment get back online...
23:23.10AckisWorklol
23:23.11Kaeltenum....  AckisWork: are you sure its a _girl_friend this time
23:23.18Xinhuanrofl
23:23.23ckknightkapowaz: yea, horrible design
23:23.23Repo10vendorsearch: 03adriweb * r6 alpha2/ (66 files in 15 directories): alpha2
23:23.31AckisWorkKaelten: I'm not stalking you!
23:23.33ckknightAckisWork: it's a trap!
23:24.13AckisWorktarp!
23:24.28XinhuanKaelten: answer this ticket please, its been open a month ;p http://www.wowace.com/admin/reports/440-users_user-ssveller/
23:25.42AckisWorkckknight: is Kody- in today?
23:25.46ckknightyes
23:26.20AckisWorkcan you ask him if he got my message yesterday?
23:27.26KaeltenXinhuan: taken care of
23:27.30Xinhuanok :)
23:27.49Fisker-slaps Xinhuan around a bit with a large trout
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23:28.40Xinhuanstabs Fisker- with a pillow
23:28.58Anaralhttp://up.norganna.org/index.php/vCujfHi/WoWScrnShot_010809_182540.jpg
23:29.06AnaralSorry forgot the screenshot
23:29.33AckisWorkstabs Fisker- with his manhood.
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23:38.36doom0r|sleepswats Fisker- with a Buick
23:39.22Skellumhttp://www.wimp.com/impatientkitty/
23:39.25winkillerI love this community feeling
23:39.25Skellumerr wait
23:39.30Skellumhttp://i40.tinypic.com/15wlz0n.jpg
23:39.31Skellumthat one
23:39.34winkillerfisker vs the rest of the world
23:41.12ckknightXinhuan: fixed the activity dealy
23:41.57Xinhuanok!
23:45.16sylvanaarthis ec2 stuff is neat
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23:45.35sylvanaarespecially with elasticserver.com
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23:47.40doom0r.
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23:49.11ckknighthmm
23:49.16ckknight(he's French)
23:50.11Pneumatuss/moving/failing/
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