| 00:00.18 | Fisker- | takes a big dump |
| 00:00.41 | Xinhuan | WG about to start, going to have lots of interference |
| 00:00.45 | Diao | yeah |
| 00:00.52 | Diao | we can probably get most of this once wg starts |
| 00:00.53 | WobWork | hm, DRM free iTunes, eh? |
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| 00:01.08 | doom0r | does it matter? |
| 00:01.16 | doom0r | still horse crap quality |
| 00:01.36 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 00:01.41 | Fisker- | your mom |
| 00:03.20 | WobWork | meh |
| 00:03.25 | Xinhuan | that's it i guess |
| 00:03.36 | WobWork | I don't really care about the quality of the recording |
| 00:03.37 | Xinhuan | your group can kill anyone else there ;p |
| 00:03.40 | Diao | lol |
| 00:03.42 | Diao | yeah we ar |
| 00:03.42 | Diao | are* |
| 00:03.52 | WobWork | "good enough" is good enough |
| 00:04.13 | WobWork | I'm not going to be able to tell the difference between "good" and "utterly fantastic" on my terrible earphones |
| 00:04.18 | Repo | 10buttonfacade_caith: 03StormFX * r44 / (4 files in 2 directories): - The skin should control the alpha, not the texture. |
| 00:04.38 | Diao | we'll just fight around uh |
| 00:05.08 | Diao | sunken ring during wg |
| 00:05.08 | Diao | and we should get credit |
| 00:08.21 | WobWork | ahaha |
| 00:08.22 | WobWork | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_SqhhJb_P3Kk/SWN4AiKI2GI/AAAAAAAAEIk/F5INTeYN9zg/s1600-h/dinosaurs+fate.jpg |
| 00:09.57 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: ping |
| 00:10.00 | Xinhuan | 1pong |
| 00:10.13 | Zhinjio | any chance of getting Omen to do a version check in raid? |
| 00:10.19 | Xinhuan | almost no |
| 00:10.36 | Xinhuan | listening to addon comms is very expensive |
| 00:10.38 | Repo | 10buttonfacade_apathy: 03StormFX * r61 / (4 files in 2 directories): - The skin should control the alpha, not the texture. |
| 00:14.12 | Fisker- | Why would you need a version check now anyways? |
| 00:14.45 | Zhinjio | I'm trying to avoid the "you're using an older broken version and caused a wipe" tragedy |
| 00:15.15 | Zhinjio | or worse yet, no version of it at all running |
| 00:15.24 | Fisker- | Threat is returned by Blizzard's api now |
| 00:15.30 | Zhinjio | I'm fully aware of that. |
| 00:15.44 | Zhinjio | and completely irrelevant. We require Omen for our raiders. |
| 00:16.21 | [dRaCo] | you do know that omen just shows those values, do you? |
| 00:16.34 | Zhinjio | ^^ |
| 00:16.40 | Fisker- | That means there's no reason why you would want newer versions of Omen as the threat data is gained from the same source, and there is no reason that it would cause a wipe |
| 00:16.54 | Xinhuan | he just wants a version check to see who doesn't have it installed |
| 00:17.06 | Xinhuan | i don't really find that a good reason to add it in |
| 00:17.09 | Fisker- | Not to mention the fact that you either have sucky tanks or dps if threat can ever be an issue to the point where you still need threatmeters |
| 00:17.21 | Xinhuan | Fisker-, your argument isn't valid |
| 00:17.25 | Zhinjio | yes, that is true, and not changing anytime soon. |
| 00:17.28 | Fisker- | of course it is |
| 00:17.30 | Xinhuan | because new threat sensitive fights can be comine in the future |
| 00:17.33 | Zhinjio | and it doesn't change any of what I've said already. |
| 00:17.34 | Xinhuan | coming* |
| 00:18.01 | Fisker- | Still doesn't change the fact that the same information is available regardless of what fights are there |
| 00:18.24 | Zhinjio | you might as well not exist. Its easier talking to a wall. |
| 00:18.30 | Xinhuan | the latest version shows MI/Fade threat though |
| 00:18.33 | Xinhuan | latest alpha that is |
| 00:19.25 | Fisker- | Having version checks on Omen will not solve being terribad |
| 00:19.26 | Fisker- | End. |
| 00:19.41 | Xinhuan | so woo, WG rollback |
| 00:19.50 | Fisker- | Wintergrasp is awesome |
| 00:20.03 | Diao | yeah lol |
| 00:20.07 | Fisker- | nothing like doing naxx and then standing in venomspite after 5 minutes of doing nothing in a bossfight |
| 00:20.10 | Diao | i've got credit for all zones now though |
| 00:20.15 | Diao | except for those 2 that got rolled back when i crashed |
| 00:20.30 | Xinhuan | i can do those for u later |
| 00:20.34 | Diao | yeah np |
| 00:20.38 | Diao | i need to run heroics now anyway |
| 00:20.43 | Diao | i'm 1 def short of tanking naxx |
| 00:20.45 | Diao | lol |
| 00:21.03 | doom0r | if you require omen, why couldn't you just require oRA2, and hack in a version check through that? |
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| 00:22.00 | Arrowmaster | i need to take the version query code from acecomm-2.0 and put it into something else, not as many people have acecomm-2.0 now |
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| 00:26.13 | Xinhuan | my point stands though, listening to addon comms is expensive |
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| 00:30.08 | Arrowmaster | only because of spammy addons |
| 00:30.28 | ckknight | at least we have namespacing |
| 00:31.06 | Groktar | REAL men don't need namespacing. |
| 00:31.30 | Repo | 10buttonfacade_entropy: 03StormFX * r43 / (6 files in 2 directories): - Fixed a typo. |
| 00:31.33 | Repo | - Adjusted the version. |
| 00:31.35 | Repo | - Fixed it so that debuff coloring works. |
| 00:31.36 | Jygga | is there an pitbull "mounts" ? |
| 00:31.37 | Repo | - The skin should control the alpha, not the texture. |
| 00:31.43 | Jygga | or are mounts treated as pets? |
| 00:31.49 | Grum | i bet you want spaces after your name if i'd put a 'd' behind it Groktar;) |
| 00:32.37 | Repo | 10buttonfacade_apathy: 03StormFX 043.0.61 * r62 : Tagging as 3.0.61 |
| 00:32.59 | Repo | 10buttonfacade_caith: 03StormFX 043.0.44 * r45 : Tagging as 3.0.44 |
| 00:33.30 | Repo | 10buttonfacade_entropy: 03StormFX 043.0.43 * r44 : Tagging as 3.0.43 |
| 00:35.05 | ckknight | Jygga: vehicles are pets. |
| 00:38.59 | NeoTron | Diao: seriously... doesn't matter |
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| 00:39.14 | NeoTron | I tanked Naxx(10 man mind you) with like 20-40 defense too little in the beginning :P |
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| 00:46.08 | WobWork | I bet your healers loved you |
| 00:47.53 | vhaarr | I just regemmed the bt/sunwell gear with +def gems and then I was capped (using the +def trinket from SSC and other max +def items) |
| 00:51.03 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r125 / (2 files in 2 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 00:51.05 | Repo | - Fixes for Glory |
| 00:52.47 | Repo | 10broker_battlegroundfu: 03LordFarlander * r3 / (3 files in 1 directory): Broker_BattlegroundFu |
| 00:52.49 | Repo | - Add deformat as an external |
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| 00:58.21 | vhaarr | anyone here use tortoisesvn? |
| 00:58.41 | NivFreak | blech |
| 00:58.44 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 00:59.01 | vhaarr | NivFreak: destiny7 needs to learn how to produce a unified diff and pastey.net it to me |
| 00:59.12 | vhaarr | I haven't a clue about tortoisesvn |
| 00:59.31 | NivFreak | yea, I don't actually use it |
| 00:59.33 | NivFreak | but some folks here do |
| 00:59.46 | vhaarr | why did you respond then you nitwit :p |
| 01:00.16 | NivFreak | I said blech |
| 01:00.17 | NivFreak | :) |
| 01:00.22 | NivFreak | not MEMEM |
| 01:01.07 | Xinhuan | i do why vhaarr? |
| 01:01.16 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: <vhaarr> NivFreak: destiny7 needs to learn how to produce a unified diff and pastey.net it to me |
| 01:01.32 | Xinhuan | tortoise can produce a .patch file or a .diff file |
| 01:01.40 | vhaarr | and I don't know how, so I can't tell him |
| 01:01.59 | vhaarr | doesn't matter what extension the file has |
| 01:02.01 | Arrowmaster | .patch and .diff are the same thing |
| 01:02.05 | Xinhuan | its just right click on file --> make diff file |
| 01:02.08 | Xinhuan | how hard is that |
| 01:02.11 | Repo | 10calendar_broker: 03LordFarlander * r8 CoreCalendar.lua: Calendar_Broker: |
| 01:02.14 | Repo | - Fix for hours display > 24 |
| 01:02.49 | vhaarr | I dunno, but his english skills are really lacking, so it's hard to communicate |
| 01:03.01 | Xinhuan | right click --> tortoisesvn --> create patch... |
| 01:03.11 | Xinhuan | that opens up the "save file..." dialog |
| 01:03.17 | Xinhuan | thats pretty much it |
| 01:03.26 | vhaarr | destiny7: did you read what Xinhuan said there? |
| 01:03.33 | destiny7 | yes |
| 01:03.37 | vhaarr | go go |
| 01:03.53 | Repo | 10calendar_broker: 03LordFarlander 043.0.9-beta * r9 : Tagging as 3.0.9-beta |
| 01:03.56 | vhaarr | save it somewhere, open it, and paste it on pastey.net |
| 01:04.06 | NivFreak | I wonder if it's unified by default |
| 01:04.07 | destiny7 | yes; |
| 01:04.17 | vhaarr | NivFreak: a few years ago when I used it, it was not |
| 01:04.27 | Arrowmaster | hopefully its unified by default, nobody uses anything else |
| 01:05.40 | Arrowmaster | i need to start logging on earlyer, 20 minute queue and raid starts in 15 minutes |
| 01:05.59 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r123 / (2 files in 2 directories): -- Move fountain goldfish to correct spot |
| 01:06.01 | Repo | -- Add Camouflage Elixir |
| 01:06.11 | Xinhuan | i don't think its unified |
| 01:06.24 | vhaarr | someone should shoot the developer then |
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| 01:06.55 | NivFreak | as I recall, even the standard unix svn doesn't do unified diffs without some magic |
| 01:07.10 | NivFreak | or maybe it was just my 8 other diff options that I like |
| 01:07.44 | Arrowmaster | svn on my debian box does unified by default |
| 01:08.15 | Arrowmaster | but you are right that its not real gnu diff so it probably doesnt support the rest of the options you like |
| 01:08.17 | Xinhuan | there's probably an option somewhere |
| 01:08.25 | Arrowmaster | there is |
| 01:08.31 | vhaarr | -u |
| 01:08.32 | NivFreak | I have a wrapper script that calls gnudiff with the proper options for svn diffs |
| 01:08.51 | Arrowmaster | yeah -u, but it does that by default |
| 01:09.07 | vhaarr | maybe now, but it didn't before |
| 01:09.20 | Arrowmaster | 1.4.x did |
| 01:09.25 | Arrowmaster | 1.5.x does |
| 01:09.52 | NivFreak | $ cat bin/svndiff |
| 01:09.52 | NivFreak | #/bin/bash |
| 01:09.52 | NivFreak | svn diff --diff-cmd properdiff "$@" |
| 01:10.05 | NivFreak | $ cat properdiff |
| 01:10.05 | NivFreak | #!/bin/bash |
| 01:10.05 | NivFreak | diff -Nu --show-c-func "$@" |
| 01:10.07 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 01:10.11 | NivFreak | not so bad anymore I guess |
| 01:11.27 | Arrowmaster | -N is to show new files as additions right? |
| 01:11.43 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: remind me again, what is your native tongue? |
| 01:12.02 | Xinhuan | english |
| 01:12.18 | vhaarr | ah, I thought it was zhTW or something |
| 01:12.23 | vhaarr | dunno why |
| 01:12.25 | Xinhuan | nah english is national language |
| 01:12.45 | Repo | 10arl: 03TrAsHeR * r1324 Locals/ARLLocals-frFR.lua: frFR update |
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| 01:16.05 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r335 modules/RangeCheck.lua: - fixed range check module to work with dogtags disabled |
| 01:18.04 | Axodious | dogtag question: easier way to do http://pastebin.ca/1301584 ? |
| 01:19.10 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r4894 Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: BigWigs: Naxxramas/Thaddius: |
| 01:19.12 | Repo | - Fix polarity issue form unnecessary...:p |
| 01:21.03 | Xinhuan | is wowace/curse syncing working yet? |
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| 01:23.01 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: ive heard you can force it to sync by going to edit project and saving |
| 01:23.36 | Xinhuan | except i'm not going to do that on the last 6 days of tags |
| 01:31.26 | quiescens | its a figment of your imagination |
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| 01:57.30 | ckknight | Xinhuan: there should've been a full sync yesterday |
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| 02:12.15 | RaydenU | hey |
| 02:12.17 | RaydenU | pitbull question |
| 02:12.27 | RaydenU | when in a group, pets are spaced according to their owners |
| 02:12.28 | Zyndrome | walk it twice a day |
| 02:12.36 | RaydenU | so you get extra empty slots in between pets for people with no pets |
| 02:12.39 | RaydenU | any way to get rid of this? |
| 02:12.55 | RaydenU | i want the pets to sit underneath the players, not associated with the owners |
| 02:14.14 | ckknight | RaydenU: fixed in PitBull4 |
| 02:14.43 | ckknight | wait, actually, no |
| 02:14.53 | ckknight | RaydenU: file a ticket on the pitbull4 project. |
| 02:14.54 | ckknight | I'll do it |
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| 02:39.21 | doom0r | meh, i need 4 people to get a full group to test something =\ |
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| 02:48.33 | doom0r | haha |
| 02:48.46 | doom0r | i just found "--" as a comment starter in an XML file |
| 02:48.47 | doom0r | ;x |
| 02:51.39 | ckknight | ? |
| 02:51.43 | ckknight | where? |
| 02:51.49 | doom0r | DUF |
| 02:52.00 | doom0r | too many people have half-ass hacked on it by now |
| 02:52.07 | doom0r | it's atrocious (sp?) |
| 02:52.23 | ckknight | hehe |
| 02:52.38 | doom0r | there's global functions that aren't even used |
| 02:52.38 | doom0r | ... |
| 02:56.24 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1855 Locales (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 02:56.26 | Repo | Removed a number of 'dead' translation strings highlighted by the new wowace localisation tool |
| 02:59.23 | doom0r | there's a debuff_onclick funtion to cancelunitbuff....................... on debuffs.................. |
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| 03:04.41 | Arrowmaster | it was always atrocious |
| 03:04.56 | doom0r | yes, and people didn't fix stuff when they tried to |
| 03:05.22 | doom0r | i don't even know wtf some of these people were thinking with the way they commented out crap to stop stuff from erroring |
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| 03:07.21 | Repo | 10charge-meter: 03Starinnia * r25 / (2 files in 2 directories): fix string for boss emote |
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| 03:14.08 | Cryect | People are still trying to fix DUF? |
| 03:14.25 | doom0r | yes |
| 03:14.29 | Arrowmaster | yeah crazy people |
| 03:14.31 | Arrowmaster | like doom0r |
| 03:14.54 | doom0r | no contest |
| 03:15.02 | ckknight | :P |
| 03:15.36 | Cryect | can't imagine trying to make unitframes like that with XML :-p can't imagine even messing with making frames with XML anymore |
| 03:18.02 | doom0r | what's that bug with people joining while someone's in combat and updates not happening, anyone got a link to detail on that? |
| 03:19.39 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt create frames on the fly does it? |
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| 03:21.37 | doom0r | no |
| 03:21.43 | doom0r | was that the issue? |
| 03:21.58 | Arrowmaster | thats one of the issues |
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| 03:33.43 | Repo | 10recount-death-track: 03Elsia * r13 DeathTrack.lua: RecountDeathTrack: |
| 03:33.45 | Repo | - Dummy commit trying to un-stale the project. |
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| 03:36.28 | RaydenU | just wiped on eregos normal |
| 03:36.32 | RaydenU | tips? |
| 03:36.35 | RaydenU | i was tanking and just died |
| 03:36.44 | RaydenU | running ruby, green, bronze, bronze, bronze |
| 03:37.37 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r34 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 03:37.40 | Repo | Update buy/sell tab tooltips properly, allowing shift key to work. |
| 03:37.42 | Repo | Don't add prices to non-item link tooltips. |
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| 03:43.08 | RaydenU | we got it |
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| 03:59.40 | rndmtngnt_ | yer if you dont fly down when the adds come can mean wipe sometimes |
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| 04:12.32 | morrad2 | is anyone online that could help quickly with a oUF question? |
| 04:12.56 | doom0r | ~asktoask |
| 04:12.57 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
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| 04:15.35 | morrad2 | i've started with Haste's oUF_Lilly, and I'm trying to convert the oUF:RegisterStyle(name, func) statement to be more like others I've seen, along the lines of oUF:RegisterStyle(name, metatable(...)). The result won't load in WoW. Is there any other changes I need to make earlier on in the code? |
| 04:23.03 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r336 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 04:23.06 | Repo | - made the threat module use raw threat percentages by default so that its display matches Omen's. |
| 04:23.08 | Repo | - added an option to the threat module to display the scaled percent (the old method) instead of raw. this will cause it to disagree with Omen, but it's displaying the same information, only in a different way |
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| 04:40.52 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-1: 03Whitetooth * r6 LibStatLogic-1.1/LibStatLogic-1.1.lua: - Removed Endurance (Tauren racial) |
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| 05:08.06 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 2a2e81b / (4 files in 3 directories): [+1 commit] add bar spacing and padding. |
| 05:10.01 | doom0r | i need to finish all my chars so i can design a new ui layout that's not based around questing |
| 05:12.27 | doom0r | hunters seem to have the most unique ui's i've seen |
| 05:18.51 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 92abe08 / (5 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] properly use AceLocale-3.0, now that the silent flag has been implemented. It only acts silent when in development mode. |
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| 05:21.50 | theoddone33 | what was that site that used to rank players per server by their gear? |
| 05:22.15 | Xocide | www.wow-heroes.com? |
| 05:22.37 | theoddone33 | hm, that's not the one I was thinking of, but it will do |
| 05:22.44 | chiper | quick question, does Maex's web wrap apply a debuff I can pick up with grid? |
| 05:22.58 | chiper | or is it just the npc container? |
| 05:23.01 | theoddone33 | hm good question |
| 05:24.09 | theoddone33 | it's... not dispellable so I don't know |
| 05:24.26 | chiper | well I guess I'll find out come the fight |
| 05:24.38 | Hirsute | Another question, and probably rhetorical: Why did NECB stop displaying my Mend Pet? |
| 05:25.31 | Camci | it does apply a debuff iirc so it should show a debuff on grid, but why would you do that? it wont show it beforehand and its not dispellable :p |
| 05:25.31 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * e94ec09 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] split off the layout parts from UnitFrame.lua |
| 05:26.22 | Camci | as far as i know necb is on early beta still, maybe ask that to the author :p |
| 05:26.22 | chiper | Camci: so I know who to toss a heal at |
| 05:27.04 | Hirsute | Camci: Aye, it used to, prior to 3.0. It's actually something I just noticed the other day and was reminded of by the question about debuffs ^^ |
| 05:27.06 | chiper | faster reaction time |
| 05:27.48 | Camci | chiper id get a boss mods if i were you then :P |
| 05:28.17 | chiper | I have bigwigs, but reading a name and looking for it on grid takes longer cognatively then spotting the white square |
| 05:28.19 | theoddone33 | gankbang.com is the site I was thinking of |
| 05:29.04 | chiper | it's all about response time |
| 05:29.07 | Camci | when it does take 3-4 seconds after the warning before the person takes damage |
| 05:29.14 | Camci | due to the flying and the web wrapping and all that |
| 05:29.15 | chiper | same for KTs frost blast |
| 05:30.05 | Camci | KTs is whole different, your range dps should take down the wrapped one rather fast :p |
| 05:30.12 | theoddone33 | I think the debuff wouldn't show up until they were actually taking damage from the wrap |
| 05:30.20 | theoddone33 | at which point you should already be killing it |
| 05:30.31 | theoddone33 | if there was a debuff, which I do not know |
| 05:30.39 | theoddone33 | I suspect there is not |
| 05:30.51 | Camci | i can check one of our vidoes |
| 05:30.53 | Camci | sec |
| 05:30.53 | Camci | ^^ |
| 05:30.56 | Codayus | I believe there is. It's a dot. |
| 05:31.37 | theoddone33 | hm, I've never done spider wing on heroic, weird |
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| 05:32.38 | chiper | honestly I dont see why you're arguing against something that makes it easier for a healer to respond quickly |
| 05:32.53 | theoddone33 | oh, for healers |
| 05:33.00 | theoddone33 | yes it'd be useful there |
| 05:33.10 | Codayus | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=54127 |
| 05:33.14 | Camci | honestly if you have to heal the cacooned one i dont understand what yuor range dps do :P |
| 05:33.46 | theoddone33 | how many people does she cocoon on heroic? |
| 05:33.50 | Codayus | There's a few different versions, but 2475 to 3025 every 2s is what Maexxna's Web Wrap does, so I think that's right. Anyhow, a debuff named "Web Wrap" appears to be it. |
| 05:33.53 | Codayus | 2 |
| 05:33.55 | theoddone33 | on 10 man they really shouldn't take more than one tick |
| 05:34.42 | Codayus | The cocoon has 15k hp on heroic, veruss 6k on normal, if wowwiki it to be believed. So... A little more than 4 times the damage needed to free everyone. |
| 05:34.48 | chiper | and everyone in the raid SHOULD be putting out at least 2.5k dps. ideals often fall short of reality |
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| 05:35.10 | Codayus | Okay, exactly 5 times the damage, but hey, that's more than 4! |
| 05:35.34 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 05:35.49 | theoddone33 | so 6 ranged dps to kill it before one tick |
| 05:35.52 | theoddone33 | or something like that |
| 05:35.58 | theoddone33 | er before 2 ticks |
| 05:36.02 | Codayus | chiper: *shrug* And part of the healers job is to try and avoid a wipe even AFTER the DPS all stand in the metaphorical fire. :-p |
| 05:36.05 | theoddone33 | well 15k is nothing |
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| 05:37.28 | Camci | its not, 2 range shuold take it before second tick |
| 05:38.07 | Repo | 10lolbuffbars: 03Xocide 07master * 9af2688 / (3 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] First commit |
| 05:38.59 | chiper | heh, metaphorical nothing, dps in fire is a common issue |
| 05:40.30 | Codayus | :-) |
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| 05:41.43 | doom0r | awesomesauce |
| 05:41.50 | doom0r | i have 16 days remaining on feed pet |
| 05:43.31 | chiper | wha? |
| 05:43.47 | doom0r | my pet has a feed pet buff with 16 days remaining |
| 05:43.53 | chiper | lol |
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| 05:49.13 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: ping |
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| 05:59.09 | quiescens | now all you have to do is make sure it doesn't get hit or die doom0r! |
| 05:59.13 | quiescens | think of all the money you could save |
| 05:59.26 | doom0r | srsly :P |
| 06:01.07 | doom0r | ~seen toadkiller |
| 06:01.10 | purl | toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-99-188-166-150.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6d 10h 18m 51s ago, saying: 'I should go find the appropriate user frenzy forum to whine in I guess'. |
| 06:02.55 | Repo | 10lolbuffbars: 03Xocide 07master * 0f2b502 LolBuffBars.lua: [+1 commit] Just did some basic code stuff... |
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| 06:07.59 | doom0r | should have just used the commit note: lolcommit |
| 06:15.05 | Repo | 10lolbuffbars: 03Xocide 07master * 0e66c1c LolBuffBars.lua: [+1 commit] Started on the Buff/Debuff Bars. |
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| 06:23.04 | doom0r | dropped to 15 days =\ |
| 06:25.28 | quiescens | =/ |
| 06:27.49 | Camci | anyone know any simple addon that shows you if you did the killing blow? |
| 06:27.52 | Camci | pvp and pve |
| 06:32.52 | doom0r | don't use any fct? |
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| 06:33.50 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r337 modules/TargetHealth.lua: |
| 06:33.52 | Repo | - re-added click-targeting on the target health bar (optionally). this time using RegisterUnitWatch so that it shows and hides properly even in combat |
| 06:34.38 | Camci | fct? |
| 06:34.52 | doom0r | floating combat text |
| 06:34.56 | Camci | parrot |
| 06:35.35 | doom0r | then you have all you need |
| 06:35.41 | Camci | which remind me i havent checked parrots settings for kb |
| 06:35.46 | Camci | :P |
| 06:35.53 | Camci | guess its late |
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| 06:36.29 | WobWork | MSBT |
| 06:36.31 | Zao | Play shadow priest and look for spirit tap proc? :) |
| 06:37.01 | doom0r | mmm, i fell in love with msbt |
| 06:37.31 | Camci | used to have MSBT thinking of going back to it but cba to fix stuff again :/ |
| 06:37.39 | ckknight | Parrot needs a rewrite :P |
| 06:37.49 | Camci | parrot2 |
| 06:37.50 | Camci | gief |
| 06:37.54 | doom0r | meh |
| 06:37.57 | ckknight | PitBull4 first |
| 06:38.00 | doom0r | msbt is fine and powerful |
| 06:38.04 | doom0r | put your energy elsewhere |
| 06:38.07 | quiescens | msbt has a little bug with mobs that have a - in their name |
| 06:38.07 | quiescens | lol |
| 06:38.11 | Camci | which is more lightwield then? |
| 06:38.15 | Axodious | my friend is messing with pb4 atm :D |
| 06:38.18 | Axodious | he really likes it so far |
| 06:38.20 | Stanzilla | ckknight: cowtip after pitbull! :P |
| 06:38.26 | doom0r | ^^ |
| 06:38.37 | ckknight | actually I'll probably do ChickenWire next |
| 06:38.41 | ckknight | I need a chicken-based addon. |
| 06:38.46 | Camci | TipTac is fine |
| 06:38.48 | Stanzilla | I hope that it's a castbar |
| 06:38.49 | Camci | lol |
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| 06:39.02 | Camci | so what will the chicken addon do? |
| 06:39.08 | doom0r | chickenwire is an alias for align? |
| 06:39.11 | doom0r | ;x |
| 06:39.38 | ckknight | but it's better, cause it's Ace'd |
| 06:39.39 | ckknight | amirite? |
| 06:39.49 | doom0r | no |
| 06:39.54 | doom0r | =\ |
| 06:39.59 | ckknight | let it be said: |
| 06:40.02 | ckknight | I did it for the lulz |
| 06:40.13 | Axodious | who does dogtag? ckknight? |
| 06:40.13 | ckknight | that is all. |
| 06:40.15 | doom0r | it'd be like making tekjunkseller ace |
| 06:40.19 | ckknight | Axodious: among other things |
| 06:41.22 | Axodious | how hard would it be to make hpcolor base off a 2 colors as a gradient, rather than the default? atm my friend has to use something thats like 20 lines long just to use a different color |
| 06:41.38 | Axodious | which in the newer versions of dogtag is bugging out cause it's more than 200 variables |
| 06:42.06 | Axodious | he wants the exact functionality of hpcolor, but to choose what colors rather than green to red |
| 06:42.33 | ckknight | Axodious: it's doable, could be passed in as arguments to HPColor |
| 06:42.50 | doom0r | just make your own tag imo |
| 06:42.53 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:42.54 | ckknight | do that. |
| 06:42.57 | ckknight | MahHPColor |
| 06:43.23 | Axodious | how would you do that? modifying the lua? |
| 06:43.29 | ckknight | yep |
| 06:43.33 | ckknight | copy-pasta ftw |
| 06:43.37 | doom0r | put the colors in a table and lose the billion operations |
| 06:45.44 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-1: 03Whitetooth * r7 LibStatLogic-1.1/LibStatLogic-1.1.lua: |
| 06:45.46 | Repo | - GetDiff: Will compare 2H weapons with MH and OH instead of MH+OH if player has Titan Grip |
| 06:46.40 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r338 modules/HungerForBlood.lua: |
| 06:46.42 | Repo | - set HfB bar to be always visible (even with 0 duration) because secure/clickable frames cannot be dynamically shown or hidden during combat unless they're directly tied to a unit's targeted status |
| 06:46.44 | Repo | - cleaned up "allow click casting" option to properly disable itself without having to reload the ui |
| 06:56.46 | Repo | 10guilder: 03onaforeignshore 07master * 1.0.0-6-g7027a2e / (9 files in 3 directories): [+5 commits] (1 truncated) |
| 06:56.49 | Repo | 7027a2e: Merge branch 'master' of git@git.wowace.com:wow/guilder/mainline.git |
| 06:56.51 | Repo | 544e384: TODO file updated |
| 06:56.54 | Repo | 164587c: - Commented all existing code and updated function comments to make use of luadoc (2009-01-07) |
| 06:56.56 | Repo | fad71c8: Fixed library requirements |
| 07:01.12 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 9056567 Options (8 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 07:01.15 | Repo | 9056567: move general options for bars and indicators (none there yet) under a general tab. |
| 07:01.18 | Repo | cdb069b: split up the LayoutEditor into multiple files, as it was getting unwieldy. |
| 07:01.53 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic 041.4 * r339 : (Message trimmed by 15 lines) |
| 07:01.55 | Repo | Tagging as 1.4. Changes since last point release: |
| 07:01.58 | Repo | - set HfB bar to be always visible (even with 0 duration) because secure/clickable frames cannot be dynamically shown or hidden during combat unless they're directly tied to a unit's targeted status |
| 07:02.00 | Repo | - cleaned up "allow click casting" option to properly disable itself without having to reload the ui |
| 07:02.03 | Repo | - re-added click-targeting on the target health bar (optionally). this time using RegisterUnitWatch so that it shows and hides properly even in combat |
| 07:04.32 | Axodious | ckknight, there a way to lock pb4 frames yet? friend wants to test it out but hes afraid of misclicking the frame across his screen |
| 07:04.40 | ckknight | not yet |
| 07:04.45 | ckknight | I'm talking to someone |
| 07:04.45 | Axodious | k |
| 07:04.47 | ckknight | I can code that in |
| 07:04.52 | ckknight | just wait a little bit |
| 07:04.57 | Axodious | kk |
| 07:05.56 | Stanzilla | wtb tree view config :> |
| 07:06.26 | ckknight | Stanzilla: I did some tree view stuff |
| 07:06.29 | ckknight | you seen it recently? |
| 07:06.33 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 07:06.38 | ckknight | take a look |
| 07:06.41 | ckknight | I value your opinion |
| 07:06.49 | Stanzilla | will do so |
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| 07:27.14 | Antiarc | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/keynote.png |
| 07:27.18 | Antiarc | roooooooooooofl |
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| 07:31.57 | ckknight | Antiarc: the alt text is best |
| 07:32.10 | sztanpet | attempt to index upvalue libdogtag a nil value on dogtagtexts line 222 |
| 07:32.27 | sztanpet | pb4 |
| 07:32.53 | ckknight | no u |
| 07:33.01 | Arrowmaster | that sounds like a hell of a bug since thats suppost to be optional |
| 07:33.05 | ckknight | any other errors before that? |
| 07:33.13 | sztanpet | nop |
| 07:35.36 | ckknight | sztanpet: did you disable the module? |
| 07:35.47 | sztanpet | what module |
| 07:36.53 | sztanpet | i was trying to configure texts but got the error |
| 07:36.59 | sztanpet | libdogtag is loaded |
| 07:39.34 | Antiarc | http://www.seisports.com/?,browse,31,163,49,042059 |
| 07:39.52 | sztanpet | digtag3 texts module is loaded too btw |
| 07:40.36 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * f136d70 Modules/DogTagTexts/DogTagTexts.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 07:40.38 | Repo | f136d70: possibly fix a weird bug with DogTagTexts |
| 07:40.41 | Repo | e2af627: possibly fix a weird bug with DogTagTexts |
| 07:45.12 | sztanpet | works now |
| 07:47.40 | sztanpet | although i disabled the threatbar module, its settings in the layout editor bars/threatbar didnt disappear, is this intended? |
| 07:48.41 | ckknight | did you disable the module or disable it in that layout? |
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| 07:48.49 | sztanpet | both |
| 07:49.10 | ckknight | that's odd |
| 07:49.12 | ckknight | I'll check it out |
| 07:50.35 | sztanpet | oh lawd the new nip/tuck episode is drama overload |
| 07:51.10 | ckknight | it's out? |
| 07:51.14 | ckknight | gotsta download |
| 07:51.19 | ckknight | don't reveal anything, sztanpet |
| 07:51.21 | ckknight | or I will crush you |
| 07:51.29 | sztanpet | not planning on it |
| 07:51.39 | sztanpet | but its beginning to bother me, this much drama |
| 07:51.43 | sztanpet | thats all |
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| 07:53.21 | ckknight | hmm |
| 07:55.35 | sztanpet | i must have fucked something up, because it disappeared now |
| 07:55.55 | sztanpet | sorry about that |
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| 08:06.39 | sztanpet | options/units.lua line 34 attemt to call deactive (trying to disable party pet targets from config mode) |
| 08:08.11 | sztanpet | also on reenabling main.lua 787 bad argument to makesingletonframe partypettarget is not a singleton unitid |
| 08:09.53 | sztanpet | also scaling partypettarget doesnt work |
| 08:10.11 | sztanpet | everything else does |
| 08:11.11 | sztanpet | everything party related has this, on further investigation |
| 08:12.54 | Repo | 10ora2: 03Arrowmaster * r646 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 08:12.57 | Repo | Update reagent checks with WotLK reagents (suprissingly CT_RaidAssist has already done this even though it never got updated with the new TBC reagent for druids and thus kept us from ever updating, and yes CT_RA needs to die die die die die) |
| 08:14.24 | Arrowmaster | ^^ didnt mention it in the commit message but added corpse dust even though ctra doesnt track it and removed flash powder which ctra never tracked |
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| 08:15.42 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: flashpowder was an addition of mine because it was useful for those ifghts where rogues had to vanish at 50% |
| 08:15.48 | [Ammo] | to reset threat |
| 08:15.50 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 08:15.53 | [Ammo] | guess it's nolonger really needed |
| 08:16.08 | Arrowmaster | well flashpowder isnt used by rogues anymore |
| 08:16.48 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 8a0ea35 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] handle enabling and disabling of headers properly. Handle enabling/disabling of classifications in config mode properly. |
| 08:16.50 | sztanpet | ora2 needs to die too, mass invites and mts are all built in, and other features are rarily used |
| 08:16.54 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: did you see the ora2 thread? |
| 08:17.01 | ckknight | sztanpet: fixed |
| 08:17.03 | Arrowmaster | mass invites arent builtin |
| 08:17.06 | sztanpet | <3 |
| 08:17.23 | sztanpet | arent they? if you lock an event and click on invite again it should invite everyone |
| 08:17.32 | sztanpet | who has accepted that is |
| 08:17.51 | Arrowmaster | that requires making an event in the calender every time you want to mass invite |
| 08:17.58 | sztanpet | true |
| 08:18.33 | Arrowmaster | but yes ora2 does need to die, once ora3 is ever finished |
| 08:18.45 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: did you see the ora2 thread? |
| 08:18.47 | sztanpet | what will that do differently |
| 08:19.10 | Arrowmaster | not be compatible with ctra |
| 08:19.31 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/simplemark/. SimpleMark. Rayvis (Manager/Author). Approved by moonwitch. |
| 08:19.35 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/kbunitframes/. Keyblader. Edicitsep (Manager/Author). Approved by moonwitch. |
| 08:19.40 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/myquest/. MyQuest. Bealena (Manager/Author). Approved by moonwitch. |
| 08:19.44 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/lolbuffbars/. LolBuffBars. Xocide (Manager/Author). Approved by moonwitch. |
| 08:19.48 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/mtarget/. MTarget. gameldar (Manager/Author). Approved by moonwitch. |
| 08:20.55 | sacarasc | lots of new projects |
| 08:21.12 | Arrowmaster | wonder if moonwitch knows that we dont approve everything for a reason |
| 08:21.30 | sztanpet | With this addon you're able to create your own quests. Other players using this addon will be able to accept the quests. |
| 08:21.34 | Torhal | Probably not: She's been gone awhile |
| 08:21.35 | sb|work | morning |
| 08:21.37 | sztanpet | thats, different! |
| 08:22.01 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: what thread? |
| 08:22.11 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: the official ora2 one |
| 08:22.13 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: I don't really visit the forums |
| 08:22.14 | [Ammo] | :p |
| 08:22.35 | [Ammo] | I have some work done on oRA3 |
| 08:22.43 | [Ammo] | but it keeps being deleted so it's not in the repo |
| 08:22.55 | Arrowmaster | i never read anything in the main addons section anymore but i still visit the other sections |
| 08:23.07 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: actually i restored it again just a few hours ago |
| 08:23.12 | [Ammo] | and I can't commit it either due to having to ask some people permission |
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| 08:23.14 | [Ammo] | I saw |
| 08:24.17 | Arrowmaster | but the thing on the forums was http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info12067-oRA2-FragedOut.html |
| 08:24.23 | Arrowmaster | which i already reported |
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| 08:43.32 | Primer | seems the push from wowace to curse still isn't fixed? |
| 08:45.10 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: pingaling. |
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| 08:46.50 | sztanpet | ckk, combopoint scaling doesnt seem to work either, im trying it from the config mode (every party related unitframe scaling doesnt work either) |
| 08:47.02 | ckknight | hmm |
| 08:48.57 | sztanpet | and i fucked that up again, didnt set the layout properly, but the party related things are there |
| 08:49.16 | Xinhuan | Zhinjio pong |
| 08:49.25 | Groktar | i get down on my knees |
| 08:49.28 | Groktar | i want you above me |
| 08:49.38 | ckknight | puts his balls in Groktar's mouth |
| 08:49.43 | Kalroth | hot |
| 08:49.50 | Kalroth | takes pictures. |
| 08:49.51 | Zhinjio | I came up with a solution to the thing I posed you earlier. |
| 08:49.51 | Groktar | om nom nom |
| 08:49.56 | Xinhuan | ckknight, the syncing to curse doesn't seem to be working |
| 08:50.13 | ckknight | Xinhuan: gnomes. |
| 08:50.16 | ckknight | it's the gnomes |
| 08:50.19 | ckknight | they're out to get the syncer |
| 08:50.29 | Kalroth | blaming Groktar doesn't help |
| 08:50.40 | ckknight | it absolutely helps! |
| 08:50.54 | Groktar | isn't a gnome! |
| 08:51.04 | Zhinjio | basically, by default, the addon will not listen at all. However, there is a toggle for raid leaders to turn on listening. Likewise, whenever a player joins a raid, omen will send out a single "ping" of the player name and the version he's running, which the raid leader then has a record of. |
| 08:51.13 | Zhinjio | he can turn it off again once the raid starts |
| 08:51.19 | Zhinjio | the users never know the difference |
| 08:53.15 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: or install spygnome and hope the user has either acecomm-2.0 or librock |
| 08:54.11 | Zhinjio | if the concern was "I don't want the addon to have the overhead of listening in comms"... that seems a reasonable solution that is very lightweight to implement |
| 08:55.24 | Arrowmaster | not like it really matters much though, its not like theres any functional difference between the most recent version and the first working versions |
| 08:55.54 | Zhinjio | I know. I'm less concerned about versions than I am about whether they are running it at all |
| 08:56.06 | Zhinjio | we require it for our raiders |
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| 09:06.33 | Repo | - Fixed Strand of the Ancients BG |
| 09:07.18 | sacarasc | i knew it was rigged |
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| 09:08.08 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: thoughts? |
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| 09:48.05 | sb|work | Mackatack: epgplm worked fine for me |
| 09:49.04 | orionshock | grr, having problems with strings |
| 09:49.15 | orionshock | "Véronique" that e in the middle |
| 09:49.19 | orionshock | what "char class" is that? |
| 09:49.28 | orionshock | or do i need a custom range? |
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| 09:51.02 | Mackatack | hey sb: Good to hear! :P new version out and curse is syndicating again, so you can use the curse client to update |
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| 09:57.15 | Grum | orionshock: what string are you matching? |
| 09:57.36 | Grum | there is no charclass for those strings |
| 09:58.55 | orionshock | eh.. player names |
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| 09:59.07 | orionshock | that i copy and pasted out of a google spreadsheet |
| 09:59.12 | Grum | yes but you are making a pattern |
| 09:59.18 | orionshock | yes |
| 09:59.33 | orionshock | "([\128-\255%w%a]+).(%d+).(%d+)" |
| 09:59.37 | Grum | if you are copy/pasting it you should only worry about encapsulating whitespace right? |
| 09:59.43 | orionshock | is what i have, but it misses the 2nd person |
| 10:00.08 | orionshock | well when >I< copy it out i get a tab seperated list |
| 10:00.14 | orionshock | but isn't tab \004? |
| 10:00.28 | Grum | a tab is whitespace |
| 10:00.35 | Grum | so delimit on that |
| 10:00.44 | Grum | just select all nonwhite space |
| 10:00.50 | orionshock | yes, but when i dump it in the chat frame i get \009 |
| 10:00.56 | orionshock | and some unknown line return |
| 10:01.36 | Grum | \009 cant exist |
| 10:01.40 | Grum | octal and all |
| 10:01.52 | orionshock | that's what it says when i /dump it |
| 10:01.56 | orionshock | \009 |
| 10:02.05 | Grum | meh fail lua then |
| 10:02.15 | orionshock | .. what is \009? |
| 10:02.32 | Grum | a tab |
| 10:04.54 | Grum | just do: %s*(%S+)%s+(%S+)%s+(%S+)%s* |
| 10:05.17 | Grum | mm all your fields are quoted? |
| 10:05.27 | orionshock | no |
| 10:05.32 | orionshock | ie: |
| 10:05.34 | Grum | then use "([^"]+)" instead |
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| 10:05.42 | orionshock | Abra53 |
| 10:05.50 | Fisker- | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/january/gmchatrequest.jpg <-great |
| 10:05.58 | Fisker- | Now they just have to provide an actual ETA to tickets |
| 10:06.01 | Grum | %s*(%S+)%s+(%S+)%s+(%S+)%s* <-- that should match nice |
| 10:07.13 | orionshock | SWEET |
| 10:07.15 | orionshock | thx Grum |
| 10:09.16 | Grum | that pattern just describes the dataformat and not so much the data itself |
| 10:09.22 | Grum | as there is no need to do that |
| 10:10.49 | orionshock | basically im making an addon that i can copy and paste out a table from google spreadsheet into the mod; then reload my UI and have updated data |
| 10:10.54 | orionshock | just simple like that. |
| 10:11.46 | Grum | ok |
| 10:11.50 | Grum | why not do it differently |
| 10:11.56 | Grum | make an input window ingame |
| 10:11.58 | Grum | paste it in there |
| 10:12.01 | Grum | saves you the reloadui |
| 10:12.50 | Grum | sure you'd have to go through the hassle of creating the UI of the window but it can be as much as an editbox with 2 buttons (close/import) |
| 10:12.54 | sb|work | Mackatack: are there any plans to re-work the interface? :p (make the selection window smaller and stuff...) |
| 10:13.56 | Mackatack | yes, im not gonna change the ML window much, but i was indeed working on a new ui for the selection windows |
| 10:14.22 | Mackatack | so if you have suggestions... pls make some enhancement tickets and ill see what i can do :P |
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| 10:17.23 | orionshock | Grum: meh.. don't care that much |
| 10:19.31 | sztanpet | how can i make fonts with outlines |
| 10:24.08 | orionshock | Grum: http://www.wowace.com/paste/101/ |
| 10:24.09 | orionshock | :D |
| 10:24.35 | Grum | :) |
| 10:24.49 | orionshock | err |
| 10:24.50 | orionshock | http://www.wowace.com/paste/102/ |
| 10:25.24 | Grum | i'd lowercast the imported name |
| 10:25.38 | Grum | *lowercase even .. stupid fingers |
| 10:26.18 | orionshock | and it works like a charm... our guild had to recently sort out the loot system. we use google spreedsheet to keep track of loot and attendance.. so a simple copy and paste out of the spredsheet and POOF i got an mod |
| 10:26.21 | Grum | and lol you really make people say 'interest' ? :D |
| 10:26.30 | orionshock | yes |
| 10:26.38 | Grum | why not just 'bid' ? |
| 10:26.40 | Grum | or 'need' |
| 10:26.44 | orionshock | b/c it's not DKP |
| 10:26.44 | Grum | something simple ;D |
| 10:27.03 | Grum | o.O |
| 10:27.09 | Grum | i dont get non-dkp lootsystems |
| 10:28.28 | orionshock | it's a modified SK + Loot Council |
| 10:28.34 | orionshock | meh |
| 10:28.42 | orionshock | it's a modified SK + Loot Council |
| 10:29.02 | Grum | how would that work? |
| 10:29.35 | orionshock | players with higher attendance and lower loot received get the item |
| 10:29.49 | Zyndrome | "ok officers get all purplz first, then after that all brown-nosers are next" |
| 10:30.02 | orionshock | if 4 ppl show interest and 2 of them are at 9 raids attended and the other 2 are at 2raids; then the 2 with only 2 raids are more or less ignored |
| 10:30.15 | Grum | and how do people get into raids or how is attendence monitored? |
| 10:30.17 | Codayus | Good loot council works really well. Bad guilds run bad loot councils, but that's the least of your problems, really. |
| 10:30.22 | orionshock | the 2 at 9 raids, who ever has not received loot that night, and has the least received gets it |
| 10:30.22 | Zhinjio | yeah, we always allow an override on SKG |
| 10:30.32 | Zhinjio | loot council override, I mean |
| 10:30.37 | orionshock | but that's done also with the officers verifying it |
| 10:30.41 | orionshock | there are always exeptions |
| 10:30.44 | Codayus | I'd be much more concerned about using SK, even modified. :-) |
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| 10:30.56 | Zhinjio | why's that? |
| 10:31.32 | orionshock | also in our system, if you got main spec loot that night, you mostly can't get another item if it's in contest with ppl that havn't got anything |
| 10:32.32 | Zhinjio | I've always thought SK was rather elegant, but I admit to a pretty strong bias. |
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| 10:32.53 | Codayus | Eh, it's not terrible, but it has issues. And, yes, it's very elegant. |
| 10:32.53 | Grum | so how is attendence monitored? |
| 10:33.04 | Grum | everyone online but not in the raid gets a +1 ? |
| 10:33.21 | orionshock | Grum: no; if your not in raid you don't get credit |
| 10:33.23 | Codayus | The key issue is, all gear costs the same. |
| 10:33.28 | Grum | so how do you get in a raid? |
| 10:33.30 | Grum | pure luck? |
| 10:33.51 | orionshock | consistantly Online when the raid is formed at 6:40pm Server time |
| 10:34.01 | orionshock | and online when the raid finishes |
| 10:34.08 | Grum | er? |
| 10:34.14 | orionshock | we have major problems with consistent raiders. |
| 10:34.24 | Zhinjio | we use "Reserve" for handling that. |
| 10:34.24 | Grum | so how do you decide who goes with a raid? |
| 10:34.33 | orionshock | depends on lvl of raid |
| 10:34.39 | Zhinjio | if you're ready to rock at raid time, you're put on the reserve list, and move in the SK list, even if you're not raiding. |
| 10:34.47 | Codayus | I think an epgp system solves the same problem more usefull than SK. But again, if you've got a functioning guild loot council is probably better. |
| 10:34.54 | orionshock | 25man naxx we take our best usual; others we just take who's online |
| 10:35.01 | Zhinjio | you get pushed when a loot event occurs, but obviously can't get loot. Your position next time is better though |
| 10:35.10 | Grum | and how do you solve the problem that you have little people of 1 class (or buff: think of shadowpriest/moonkin +3% hit) so there always has to be at least one of them? |
| 10:35.35 | orionshock | well Grum ofc we're not idiots... |
| 10:35.42 | orionshock | Raid Compisition > * |
| 10:35.51 | Grum | no but you do give people preference to some people/classes |
| 10:35.54 | Codayus | Um, I think people are arguing at cross purposes here. Loot systems should reward attendance which means being online. Figuring out who is actually zoned in has nothing to do with loot systems. |
| 10:36.00 | Grum | and that makes 'sitting out while being online and getting 0 credits' unfair |
| 10:36.12 | Grum | indeed Coda |
| 10:36.26 | Grum | i have 100% attendence but i havent raid all raids |
| 10:36.27 | Zhinjio | I'm not arguing, just trolling in with useless data *grin* |
| 10:36.38 | Zhinjio | I just have a vested interest |
| 10:36.39 | Grum | so i got 100% of the attainable DKP so far |
| 10:36.42 | Codayus | Grum: Yeah, but um...I don't think anyone has disagreed with you. |
| 10:36.50 | many | i was surprised yesterday when we with a guild-random 5 man did make it through halls of ligtning hero pretty easy without any preparations |
| 10:37.13 | Grum | Codayus: i'm just stating where orionshock's system is unfair |
| 10:37.22 | Grum | imho that is ;) |
| 10:37.30 | orionshock | Grum: in our guild we got usualy 3 officers in a raid for any raid; and it's a general option at the end of the night on who get's pts for attendance.. 90% of the time it falls on participation. If your there for all the bosses then u get 1; but only there for half then u get .5 |
| 10:37.31 | Codayus | Hmm, oh, nevermind. |
| 10:37.34 | orionshock | & so on |
| 10:37.53 | Grum | orionshock: so are all your officers of different spec and raid purpose? |
| 10:37.57 | Codayus | Yeah, DKP system that reward getting into the raid are fatally flawed, you can MAKE them work but they're a terrible idea. |
| 10:37.59 | Grum | ea melee/ tank/ ranged/ caster/ healer? |
| 10:38.12 | many | what confuses me though is that the ini had respawn after some time, i thought they were reset at certain times only |
| 10:38.20 | Grum | because i've seen those systems where officers had to be in a raid and there were 3 lock officers |
| 10:38.20 | orionshock | Grum: i don't get the coralation |
| 10:38.30 | orionshock | ah |
| 10:38.35 | Grum | that basicly left the one non officer on the sidelines |
| 10:38.41 | Grum | 'because of the need of officers' |
| 10:38.42 | orionshock | ah |
| 10:39.12 | Codayus | You will constantly have issues over who gets a slot, who gets in too often, who always gets in. It's like having all the problems of loot council, none of the benefits, only with less transparency . :-/ |
| 10:39.22 | Grum | the biggest problem of DKP is |
| 10:39.31 | orionshock | our GM is a Tank; we got a holy pally - who's also minors as a mage; me as a DK & minor with druid; a Lock that minors as a druid; and a shammy that minors as a druid and rogue. |
| 10:39.35 | Grum | the second you make a system work for any situation you have a *LOT* of work maintaining it |
| 10:39.39 | orionshock | we've got most of the basses covered |
| 10:39.55 | Grum | orionshock: i would not be happy with that raidsystem :) |
| 10:39.59 | orionshock | hehe |
| 10:40.21 | Grum | do you have people hoarding in your system? |
| 10:40.24 | Grum | i dont think so right? |
| 10:40.34 | Grum | becuse there is no actual currency? |
| 10:40.39 | orionshock | we also run teired raids - like WG 25man ; OS25man and the 10mans as well; most of the time we have random ppl in the guild going that are not usual raiders. so we try them out and see how it works. |
| 10:40.51 | Grum | 10m is just /roll |
| 10:40.54 | Grum | with us |
| 10:41.02 | Grum | and all 25m are 1 tier atm |
| 10:41.06 | orionshock | ya we don't track 10mans |
| 10:41.27 | Grum | but there is no currency in your system right? |
| 10:41.37 | Grum | other than 'the amount of raids someone was in the raid' ? |
| 10:41.50 | orionshock | Grum: to get around the hoarding problem; we have a simple rule; "for an item in contest, you may only get 1 item per round per role" |
| 10:42.08 | Grum | 'per round' ? |
| 10:42.36 | orionshock | 4 rouges, if the first 3 get something and a 4th item drops; last rouge gets it hands down. That's the "round" |
| 10:42.47 | Grum | what if the last rogue doesnt want it? |
| 10:43.03 | orionshock | then it's not counted |
| 10:43.15 | orionshock | and it falls back to ranking in the system. |
| 10:43.18 | Grum | so that last rogue can just wait until KT |
| 10:43.27 | Grum | and get priority |
| 10:43.34 | orionshock | for those interested - for an item in contest - 1 item per round per role.. |
| 10:43.44 | orionshock | no |
| 10:44.02 | orionshock | he's got to put his hat in the ring first; and if he's top of the list then he get's that first item |
| 10:44.03 | Grum | ? |
| 10:44.15 | Grum | ok i dont get it at all :) |
| 10:44.19 | orionshock | hehe |
| 10:44.29 | Grum | the first 3 bosses in naxx; 3 rogue items drop; 3 rogues get it because of their higher attendance |
| 10:44.40 | Grum | now the second last boss; another rogue item; the 4th rogue doesnt want it |
| 10:44.45 | Grum | the last boss: another rogue item |
| 10:44.55 | orionshock | ok it only applys to ppl with interest |
| 10:44.59 | Grum | does the 4th rogue still has the same priority or did he lose it because he denied an item? |
| 10:45.08 | Grum | all 4 rogues ofc want all items |
| 10:45.21 | Grum | but the 4th item dropping gets 'ignored' by the last rogue |
| 10:45.36 | Grum | because he can now use his favored position to get loot from KT |
| 10:45.48 | Grum | as he hasnt got any loot so far and the other 3 rogues did |
| 10:45.58 | orionshock | this is true.. |
| 10:46.07 | orionshock | however that's where the LootCouncile comes in |
| 10:46.08 | many | does it matter so much? i.e. is the quality od items growing with number of bosses? |
| 10:46.22 | Grum | many: KT drops a range loot higher than any other boss |
| 10:46.31 | Grum | ilvl226 vs 213 |
| 10:46.41 | many | if not, at the end of six runs either rogue would have wanted an item of every boss? |
| 10:47.28 | Grum | orionshock: so the lootcouncil would force the 4th item onto the rogue because they see it as an upgrade? |
| 10:47.48 | orionshock | Grum: but this order resets with each raid |
| 10:48.02 | Grum | yes and then it goes back to how many times you have been there |
| 10:48.14 | many | otherwise you would could do the 1 item per round per role per ilvl |
| 10:48.15 | orionshock | it is designed to spread the loot around |
| 10:48.24 | Grum | it is not |
| 10:48.31 | Grum | it heavily favors people who are always there |
| 10:48.38 | orionshock | exactly |
| 10:48.43 | Grum | think of someone who starts new in the guild |
| 10:48.49 | orionshock | attendance is very important |
| 10:49.02 | Grum | he can only get loot no-one wants or if all other of his class/spec/build already have taken an item |
| 10:49.03 | orionshock | we only track back ~2months to a several weeks |
| 10:49.10 | many | DKP honors attendance too |
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| 10:49.22 | Grum | yes but you create a deficit on buying items |
| 10:49.29 | Grum | in orionshocks system you dont have that |
| 10:49.44 | orionshock | &? |
| 10:49.57 | orionshock | in 90% of all systems you don't get loot untill your 2nd week in |
| 10:50.05 | Grum | DKP has 'currency for attendence' |
| 10:50.15 | Grum | orionshock: nonsense |
| 10:50.18 | orionshock | so you have 2 weeks of raids to build attendance / dkp or what ever the system uses |
| 10:50.23 | Megalon | every system has its faults |
| 10:50.30 | many | 1; |
| 10:50.31 | orionshock | Megalon: true |
| 10:50.31 | Grum | Megalon: not really |
| 10:50.32 | Megalon | pretty pointless discussion |
| 10:50.46 | many | not pointless, though |
| 10:50.58 | many | its always good to look at alternatives |
| 10:51.03 | orionshock | Grum: we're assholes in our guild wrt loot because of the metric ton of drama we had to put up with ... |
| 10:51.07 | orionshock | this is what we settled on |
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| 10:51.23 | many | and i believe grum wants to understand, not to criticize |
| 10:51.26 | orionshock | works great tbh |
| 10:51.26 | Grum | yeah |
| 10:51.27 | Megalon | many: i mean grum bashing on the faults of the system orionshock's guild uses |
| 10:51.32 | Grum | i'd like to steal the positive stuff from it |
| 10:51.39 | Grum | no i am just pointing them out |
| 10:51.40 | Grum | not bashing |
| 10:51.48 | Grum | and seeing if they came up with something to counter the holes i see |
| 10:52.02 | orionshock | the idea about only getting 1 item per raid was from my old guild when we where doing 40mans back in classic days |
| 10:52.04 | many | yeah, so i understand |
| 10:52.27 | Megalon | well yeah, in the end his guild uses a loot council |
| 10:52.34 | Grum | i personally (as a raider) like getting 'paid' .. so i like getting DKP for my time invested |
| 10:52.40 | orionshock | now a days it's much simpler and that rule hardly gets used. Most of the players regular in the raids have fixed the system and show interest in turn :D |
| 10:52.46 | Megalon | to get those who try to abuse it |
| 10:52.55 | Megalon | at least, i hope the council does that :s |
| 10:53.05 | Grum | i hate to be forced to sit out of a raid because of the setup and not get any dkp; to counter that you give anyone online (raiders) DKP eventhough they don't raid |
| 10:53.11 | Grum | downside of that; you add administration |
| 10:53.26 | many | i havent been raiding and all ini loot was rolled on, if you had a loot already, you would step back for others |
| 10:53.28 | Grum | people say bidding is the way to go |
| 10:53.39 | Grum | i *hate* bidding because you can so easily exploit it |
| 10:53.42 | orionshock | Grum: don't use a euphemism .. it's called "Payroll" |
| 10:53.43 | Kalroth | We very, very rarely sit people outside because of class these days |
| 10:53.49 | many | but i do see that some people want EOH/EOV like currency for raiding |
| 10:53.53 | orionshock | and we did a pure DKP system once.. twas a pain in the ass |
| 10:54.13 | Kalroth | We go with attendance + loot council |
| 10:54.20 | Grum | how was it a pain in the ass orion? |
| 10:54.28 | Kalroth | well "council", it's the officers that decide :p |
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| 10:54.32 | Grum | Kalroth: and if you are friends with the loot council you get your loot faster |
| 10:54.43 | digmouse | @project RBM2 |
| 10:54.43 | Kalroth | Grum: No, loot is very visible and accounted for |
| 10:54.43 | Repo | digmouse: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/rbm2/. RBM2. Game: WoW. Kameril (Manager/Author). Updated: 15 days ago. Tickets: 5/14 |
| 10:54.48 | Grum | Kalroth: how? |
| 10:54.52 | Megalon | i know guilds who have easy loot council rules |
| 10:54.55 | digmouse | :( |
| 10:54.56 | orionshock | Grum: that's why we have a few basic rules about the loot - to counteract that effect |
| 10:55.03 | Megalon | 1. rules apply to everyone, except when an officer is in need |
| 10:55.04 | Kalroth | Grum: Meaning we track and show the amount of loot for all players within the last 2 months in some fancy chart |
| 10:55.05 | Megalon | :S |
| 10:55.06 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:55.08 | Grum | i'd give 20k gold to the officer to get me the KT mace first |
| 10:55.18 | Kalroth | Grum: You'd get a quick gkick with that. |
| 10:55.40 | Grum | so how is decided who gets that item then? |
| 10:55.42 | Kalroth | Face it; if you don't trust the leaders of your guild, then NO system will work for you. |
| 10:55.46 | Grum | there is a amount of 'randomness' |
| 10:55.52 | many | :( |
| 10:55.56 | Grum | Kalroth: pure dkp works |
| 10:55.57 | Kalroth | Like I said, attendance and the officers. |
| 10:55.58 | Kalroth | no |
| 10:56.00 | Kalroth | pure dkp is shit |
| 10:56.05 | Grum | why? |
| 10:56.10 | Grum | give me a problem with pure dkp |
| 10:56.12 | Kalroth | it rewards mouthdroolers that shows up 100% of the time and wipes you. |
| 10:56.20 | Grum | no |
| 10:56.22 | Kalroth | pure dkp is attendance alone |
| 10:56.24 | Grum | because those peopel arent raiderse in your guild |
| 10:56.34 | Grum | omg .. that is a lot of typos |
| 10:56.38 | orionshock | Kalroth: the thing about trust is very key.. |
| 10:56.40 | Kalroth | of course they aren't, just like loot council is always corrupt, right? |
| 10:56.58 | Grum | Kalroth: any loot council is corrupt by default yes |
| 10:56.59 | Kalroth | All guilds got shit players, even SKihilum |
| 10:57.13 | Codayus | Eh, arguing about "pure dkp systems" is a bit...dubious. There's about as many "pure dkp systems" as there are guilds, and they've all got a different set of flaws. :-) |
| 10:57.15 | Kalroth | All DKPs are corrupt by default too, so .. :) |
| 10:57.24 | Grum | why? |
| 10:57.31 | Grum | you invest time to help kill shit |
| 10:57.41 | orionshock | Grum: because wow is not a 2nd job; that's why DKP is corrupt :P |
| 10:57.43 | Grum | and you can get items because you did so |
| 10:57.44 | Kalroth | "HELO DUMBASS RETARDIN, U GET POINTS FOR SHOWING UP EVEN THOUGH YOUR LAME ASS WIPED US ON THADDIUS FOR THE LAST 2 HOURS" |
| 10:57.58 | Grum | Kalroth: that has nothing to do with DKP |
| 10:57.58 | orionshock | Kalroth: that would be a 50DKP MINUS |
| 10:58.07 | Codayus | Inflation, point gaps, funnel loot to people with high attendance, funnel loot to people with low attendance, force loot to go to main specs who don't need it, force loot to go to off specs who wan't use it... Pick a flaw, we can find a pure DKP system which has it. Or doesn't. |
| 10:58.09 | Kalroth | Grum: That has everything to do with DKP |
| 10:58.13 | Grum | no |
| 10:58.36 | Kalroth | If you give upgrades to shitty players over awesome players, then it tells a lot about your guild -- a bunch of lootwhores. |
| 10:58.47 | Grum | no |
| 10:58.49 | Kalroth | We don't raid for pretty epics, hence loot council works for us. |
| 10:58.50 | orionshock | Codayus: that's one of the nice parts about how we run things... there is a classic priority to loot |
| 10:58.58 | Codayus | Some "pure DKP systems" (many!) don't give points unless you down the boss, or give more points if you kill it fast, or any other of a hundred variations. |
| 10:58.59 | Grum | if you have shitty players in your guild for 2 months it tells your officers have no balls |
| 10:59.02 | Grum | it has nothing to do with DKP |
| 10:59.28 | Kalroth | Like I said, all guilds got shitty players. |
| 10:59.41 | Kalroth | Some are only moving through, but they're there. Always. |
| 10:59.44 | orionshock | Codayus: Main & Main-Spec > * just about any combo of Alt and Offspec > everything else |
| 10:59.50 | Grum | when you are going to take in account someones performance in a game where a dice plays the biggest role you start to favor people you like more |
| 10:59.50 | Codayus | That being said, if your guild is disfunctional no loot system will work. If it IS functional, then loot council will work as well as anything, and probably be less of a headache... |
| 11:00.39 | Grum | Kalroth: you cant possibly blame bad players getting loot on any loot system |
| 11:00.42 | Shefki | Different things work for different guilds. There is no correct way. |
| 11:00.45 | orionshock | Grum: btw, you sound angry.. that's why we think your arguing instead of debating.. |
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| 11:01.00 | Grum | i always do; i suck with people ;) |
| 11:01.04 | orionshock | lol |
| 11:01.09 | many | unless in a raid |
| 11:01.14 | orionshock | im the same |
| 11:01.25 | SunTsu | .o0( For us a combined /random and "Only one item somebody else wants per raid" works quite well ) |
| 11:01.49 | Cheads | kiss |
| 11:01.59 | orionshock | ~kiss |
| 11:02.07 | orionshock | ok it's not key'ed |
| 11:02.11 | Cheads | =) |
| 11:02.13 | SunTsu | iss orionshock |
| 11:02.15 | SunTsu | er |
| 11:02.20 | SunTsu | ~kill orionshock |
| 11:02.21 | purl | ACTION shoots a super-inverse quark gun at orionshock |
| 11:02.22 | orionshock | lol |
| 11:02.32 | Codayus | SunTsu: If your guild has issues, that'll flame out in recriminations about how Tom rolled on the Sword of Face Melting, even though he already had a Dagger of Face Melting, and wtf I never win anything, and on and on and on... |
| 11:02.33 | SunTsu | ~kiss orionshock |
| 11:02.34 | purl | ACTION forces orionshock to give Addybot a big kiss on the forehead |
| 11:02.35 | many | i wouldnt see that something is ilvl 226 as opposed to 213 anyway, so i wouldnt even notice when someone abused the system |
| 11:02.39 | many | is always happy. |
| 11:02.40 | orionshock | u'd think purl would have ~kiss as "Keep it simple stupid" |
| 11:02.42 | many | =P |
| 11:02.51 | Megalon | in my guild, when an item drops, everyone who wants it writes a 10+ line peom about him and the item |
| 11:02.57 | Megalon | best poem gets the loot |
| 11:02.58 | Grum | Codayus: but inflation is tricky in a DKP system; point-gaps i dont get; the funneling you dont have with DKP neither is loot forcing |
| 11:03.01 | many | Megalon: haha |
| 11:03.05 | Codayus | ...if it doesn't, not problem, but that's true of anything. :-) |
| 11:03.20 | SunTsu | Codayus: Yeah, but that are social problems I don't think any technical measure can ammend |
| 11:03.59 | many | i spose some raiders are more exact in knowing who got hwat loot than the log of the raids themselves |
| 11:04.12 | Megalon | many: every loot distribution system is just some way to deal with fucktards and lootwhores, so they can't need on anything that drops |
| 11:04.31 | Megalon | and yes, every guild has fucktards and lootwhores |
| 11:04.43 | Grum | tbh; i `bid` on anything that would be an upgrade for me |
| 11:04.50 | Grum | points will decide if i get the item yes or no |
| 11:04.51 | many | and has people who complain about lootstealers all the time |
| 11:04.53 | Mackatack | Just want to take the opportunity to bring my mod to your attention :P EPGPLootmaster provides a nice gui to the master looter for distributing loot, together with the EPGP loot candidate prioritizing you can speed up loot distribution tremendously, without having the problems DPK has (hoarding, bidding, whispering etc etc) |
| 11:04.57 | SunTsu | Codayus: Of course, the whole raid has the right to veto, but the veto must be constructive and well argued |
| 11:04.58 | Codayus | Grum: Points gaps are what zero sum systems which don't have inflation get. Same issue. And for funneling and loot forcing...yes, you do. Every loot system makes decisions about that. How you set prices, how you decide who can bid, a bunch of other decesions all factor into how your system works. The system YOU have, whatever it might be, is not neutral. It can't be. |
| 11:04.58 | Mackatack | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/epgp_lootmaster.aspx |
| 11:05.17 | Grum | Codayus; we solved all that shit in the DKP system we use |
| 11:05.26 | Megalon | Grum: but i hope your system kind of distributes loot, so you don't get EVERYTHING that is an upgrade, so it makes you pass automatically |
| 11:05.28 | Grum | but the administration is sinsane |
| 11:05.53 | Grum | Megalon: if other people want it and have higher dkp they get it |
| 11:06.16 | Grum | but 'saving' DKP is punished (after 12 weeks your old DKP starts to vanish) |
| 11:06.36 | Shefki | 12 weeks is an eternity. |
| 11:06.37 | Grum | that prevents hoarding |
| 11:06.39 | Codayus | Grum: No, you didn't. :-/ I don't even need to know the rules; there are no "right" answers to some of the problems. |
| 11:07.14 | Shefki | If your guild isn't practically maxed out on gear in 12 weeks of raiding an instance you're probably doing something wrong. |
| 11:07.26 | Shefki | With the exception of stuff that just doesn't drop. |
| 11:07.26 | Grum | not really |
| 11:07.30 | Grum | indeed |
| 11:07.38 | Grum | 12 weeks means 12 kills of the last boss |
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| 11:07.48 | Grum | which means at east 13 people wont have loot from him |
| 11:07.52 | Zhinjio | we just pruned our SKG lists tonight |
| 11:07.55 | Zhinjio | 110 toons |
| 11:07.58 | Megalon | Grum: but yea, there is no social function, so there will never be a system that does justice to everyone |
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| 11:08.02 | Zhinjio | on roughly 60 players |
| 11:08.09 | Shefki | Grum: Except the boss doesn't drop just one item. |
| 11:08.12 | Zhinjio | 22 of which are currently approved for raiding. |
| 11:08.17 | Zhinjio | 22 toons, I mean |
| 11:08.28 | Grum | Shefki: the 12 weeks is based on 2 tokens per boss |
| 11:08.40 | Grum | so in 12 weeks tehre is 24 tokens |
| 11:08.49 | many | Mackatack: does your plugin depend on another? |
| 11:09.05 | Mackatack | only EPGP: http://code.google.com/p/epgp/wiki/TheSystem |
| 11:09.25 | Shefki | Grum: If someone sits on DKP for more than 12 weeks they're either done getting gear or they are are long past hoarding. |
| 11:09.43 | many | why wouldnt curse display such a useful information alongside, its in the meta file anyway, no? |
| 11:10.00 | Grum | its basicly the current dkp is only the sum of the DKP gained over the last 12 weeks |
| 11:10.25 | Mackatack | many: What do you mean? |
| 11:10.48 | Grum | there the spend DKP is the sum of the DKP spend the last 6 weeks (this gets people to loot minor upgrades early instead of later) |
| 11:10.54 | sb|work | epgp is sooo <3 |
| 11:11.11 | Mackatack | agrees with sb :P |
| 11:11.31 | Shefki | We use epgp. It's fairly easy to maintain. |
| 11:11.34 | Grum | epgp is a lot of administration :) |
| 11:11.38 | Grum | so it seems |
| 11:11.41 | Shefki | No it isn't. |
| 11:11.43 | Codayus | Grum: Mmm...no. |
| 11:11.54 | Shefki | I do it for our guild it's insanely easy. |
| 11:12.09 | Shefki | Addon does most of the work. |
| 11:12.23 | many | Mackatack: theres no "Depends on: xyz" information on the curse infopage of your plugin, although *i think* it should be easy to find out since the meta.xml file inside the package should contain the information |
| 11:12.28 | Mackatack | Shefki: you should really take at my mod EPGPLootmaster at curse.com, it will speed up the looting even more |
| 11:12.38 | many | no? |
| 11:12.44 | Shefki | Mackatack: Useless to us. |
| 11:13.11 | Shefki | Mackatack: We don't care about what people are wearing or any of that. |
| 11:13.24 | sb|work | hm so? |
| 11:13.41 | Shefki | People say, me, person with highest priortiy picks it up. |
| 11:13.45 | sb|work | yes |
| 11:13.47 | Shefki | We don't use Master Looter either. |
| 11:13.52 | sb|work | oh okay |
| 11:13.52 | Shefki | Free for All always. |
| 11:13.57 | sacarasc | lol |
| 11:14.05 | Mackatack | ghehe, pretty trusty :P |
| 11:14.16 | sacarasc | accidental autoloot |
| 11:14.18 | Shefki | We've never had an issue with it. |
| 11:14.31 | Mackatack | okay, then my addon is useless to you indeed :P |
| 11:14.34 | Shefki | People pickup BOE stuff all the time but it doesn't matter. |
| 11:14.44 | Codayus | Heh |
| 11:14.56 | sztanpet | anybody else using cc 2.1 alpha 6 and its consuming 100% cpu? |
| 11:15.01 | Grum | http://code.google.com/p/epgp/wiki/GearPoints <-- the table under the 'what slot is what modifier' table is just horridly to implement |
| 11:15.09 | many | if you disable master looter youd still have /roll on items with a definable quality |
| 11:15.22 | Shefki | many: No, everything goes to the guild bank. |
| 11:15.46 | Shefki | We have a dedicated person that loots behind the raid. |
| 11:16.13 | Codayus | Grum: Hm? |
| 11:16.13 | Shefki | When we kill a boss people look at what drops, if they want something they stay at boss. |
| 11:16.19 | Shefki | Everyone else goes to the trash and starts clearing. |
| 11:16.37 | Grum | Codayus: figuring out for what purpose something will be used is just not fun |
| 11:16.43 | Mackatack | what if tank needs something? :P |
| 11:16.56 | Shefki | It only takes one tank to do trash. |
| 11:17.00 | sztanpet | who goes with 1 tank? |
| 11:17.04 | sb|work | healers! |
| 11:18.21 | Mackatack | ah well nevermind... Anyone that does use EPGP and wishes to see easily if someone in your raid wants to need, greed or pass an item: EPGPLootmaster is for you :P |
| 11:19.24 | sb|work | ohh Mackatack, another useful thingie :p |
| 11:19.31 | sb|work | "distribute to random player" button on ML window |
| 11:19.59 | sb|work | would be much easier than having everybody to roll need/greed and look for their rolls or do /random 25 |
| 11:21.10 | sb|work | look at "xlootmaster" or "masterlooter" - you can just use "assign to random player" there |
| 11:22.21 | Mackatack | how about you just sort by rolls by clicking the Roll header and give it to the person on top? :P |
| 11:22.51 | Grum | where does epgp store its data? |
| 11:22.59 | Mackatack | officer notes |
| 11:23.05 | Grum | so its only available ingame> |
| 11:23.07 | Grum | ? |
| 11:23.27 | sb|work | Mackatack: hm - are those rolls displayed before "announce"? |
| 11:23.36 | sb|work | yep Grum |
| 11:23.44 | Grum | and thus it only keeps the scorelist and has no 'record' of who got what when? |
| 11:23.53 | Mackatack | yes, but we use ct_raidtracker to export raid info to EQDKP and import everything back ingame before raids |
| 11:23.54 | Codayus | There are a few other addons floating around that implement epgp systems, incidentally, sometimes under the name relational dkp. |
| 11:24.38 | Mackatack | sb|work: Yes, rolls are visible immediately :P |
| 11:25.03 | sb|work | oh... okay |
| 11:25.35 | Grum | so egpg requires you to keep track of which role a certain person has and not much more so it seems? |
| 11:25.48 | Mackatack | Grum: EQDKP is a webbased raid event system, it will show you who got what when |
| 11:26.02 | Grum | eqdkp is a bunch of shit |
| 11:26.17 | Grum | (codewise btw ^^) |
| 11:26.17 | Mackatack | agreed :P but it works :P |
| 11:26.22 | orionshock | sorry any system that makes admining it feel like doing payroll for a 2nd job needs to be axed in the face |
| 11:26.59 | Mackatack | if you just use EPGP ingame there is hardly any administration needed |
| 11:27.12 | Codayus | That's one of the big arguments in favor of loot council, or failing that, something like epgp which is pretty low maitanance. |
| 11:27.13 | Mackatack | only setup the EP rewards after bosskills etc and you're done |
| 11:27.17 | Grum | any system which allows corruption needs the same axe |
| 11:27.26 | orionshock | but then you can't use officer notes Mackatack |
| 11:27.28 | Grum | if no-one is online any officer can just change any rating |
| 11:27.34 | Grum | and whiiii he'll be higher up the list |
| 11:27.41 | Grum | without anyone every being able to track it |
| 11:27.42 | Codayus | I've been responsible for adminning a standard fpzs dkp system using dqdkp and...bloody hell... |
| 11:27.52 | Mackatack | backups of officer notes get made automatically |
| 11:31.59 | orionshock | oh there goes half the room |
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| 11:36.02 | Shefki | People tend to have a pretty good idea where they stand, if someone made a change people would notice. |
| 11:36.02 | Codayus | And if it comes to that, do you know who has admin access on your dqdkp database? |
| 11:36.02 | Mackatack | @rehub: well, that was fun :P |
| 11:36.02 | Grum | Codayus: yeah but i also know the dkp system |
| 11:36.02 | Grum | and its quite easy to recount the dkp gained/lost |
| 11:36.02 | Grum | or to check for weird stuff |
| 11:36.02 | Kalroth | If you treat raiding like a job, then I can see why you're worried about DKP and loot. If you raid for fun, then it really doesn't matter who gets the drop of <item xyz> first |
| 11:36.02 | Codayus | Ditto for epgp. *shrug* |
| 11:36.02 | sb|work | Grum: somebody with access to your webseite could also change dkp in your database... without any traces :p |
| 11:36.02 | Grum | not really |
| 11:36.02 | sb|work | oh |
| 11:36.02 | Codayus | Ultimately, any system is vulnerable to sufficiently sophisticated attempts to cheat. |
| 11:36.02 | sb|work | nevermind |
| 11:36.02 | Grum | its actually quite hard to do that sb |
| 11:36.02 | Mackatack | the EPGP maintainer is currently working on a webbased system for tracking EP and GP distribution... so it will be better in the future |
| 11:36.02 | Grum | because of the retarded system it has ;D |
| 11:36.02 | Codayus | *shrug* |
| 11:36.02 | Shefki | Grum: How is your guild website more secure than officer notes in the game? |
| 11:36.04 | Codayus | It's not that hard either. |
| 11:36.04 | Grum | because you dont get away with changing a single number |
| 11:36.04 | Shefki | Editing a database is hard. |
| 11:36.04 | Codayus | Once you realize that the eqdkp devs didn't know or care what database normalization was... |
| 11:36.04 | Kalroth | Codayus: Oh I know, I've made several addons and changes to eqdkp :p |
| 11:36.04 | Grum | Codayus: but you can recalculate what someones DKP should be from the history |
| 11:36.04 | Grum | with epgp you cant |
| 11:36.04 | Kalroth | history can easily be modified too |
| 11:36.04 | Grum | (at least not ingame) |
| 11:36.04 | Shefki | Grum: Actually I can. |
| 11:36.04 | Shefki | And I can do it in game. |
| 11:36.04 | Grum | Kalroth: hehe not as easily hehe |
| 11:36.04 | Shefki | There's a log now. |
| 11:36.04 | Codayus | Grum: You can do it with epgp the same as eqdkp. Log what happens, sanity check as required. |
| 11:36.04 | Grum | i wish wow would give some datafields you could read from the armory |
| 11:36.04 | Grum | then you could just export the epgp directly from the game |
| 11:36.04 | Skellum | EPGP saved my ass last night |
| 11:36.04 | Skellum | Somehow at sapph i came out on top, managed to get my neck |
| 11:36.04 | thul | hmm, what are the best boss-mods these days? |
| 11:36.04 | Shefki | Grum: It already writes it to a SV file everytime you log out. |
| 11:36.04 | Grum | the best bossmods? |
| 11:36.04 | Grum | there is only 1; bigwigs |
| 11:36.04 | Shefki | And you can restore from that if you want. |
| 11:36.04 | Shefki | DBM is still fairly popular. |
| 11:36.05 | Codayus | In any case, it's really not hard to do whatever you want to the eqdkp database. For various (legit!) reasons, I've made all sorts of changes to remove raids, change prices, make retroactive changes, fix bugs, renormalize values, and basically change everything, and make it so everything sanity checks, total dkp = earned - spent, etc. |
| 11:36.05 | Grum | DBM 4.00 uses a new folder structure. Please delete all old DBM_* folders before installing DBM 4.00! Updater-fail: You also have to delete them manually if you are using the Curse updater! <-- i love that kind of stuff |
| 11:36.05 | Skellum | Japanese man covered in lube doing a human water slide over young japanese girls covered in lube |
| 11:36.05 | Skellum | http://www.wimp.com/realfun/ |
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| 11:36.39 | Grum | its not the mistake of the updater; its the mistake of the addon writer not to do it right in the first place >< |
| 11:36.39 | Shefki | Grum: Ohh that's funny, Bigwigs had the same issue. |
| 11:36.39 | Codayus | It's about 60 times harder with eqdkp than it should be, but it should a 60 second SQL query. Wasting an hour isn't bad, and unless you check with CTRT logs you'd never know. |
| 11:36.39 | Shefki | Bigwigs must suck too. |
| 11:36.39 | Codayus | And at the time, I was the only person who routinely ran and logged raids. :-p |
| 11:37.50 | many | hm. is there a plugin that auto turns on logging when in a group/ini and auto-turning it off when leaving? |
| 11:37.50 | Codayus | Loggerhead |
| 11:38.40 | many | <3 |
| 11:39.11 | Xinhuan | grum, DBM is actually better than bigwigs now |
| 11:39.11 | Grum | aws ;( |
| 11:39.11 | Xinhuan | many timers in bigwigs are off |
| 11:39.23 | Xinhuan | and some of them only trigger once |
| 11:39.35 | Grum | so fix it ;) |
| 11:39.35 | Grum | which ones are off btw? |
| 11:39.35 | Mackatack | ct_raidtracker |
| 11:39.49 | Grum | SHOOT IT IN THE HEAD |
| 11:39.49 | Xinhuan | not sure, i don't pay attention |
| 11:39.49 | Mackatack | many: ^^^ |
| 11:39.50 | Shefki | Grum: Don't be like that. |
| 11:39.51 | Grum | anything ct_* should die |
| 11:40.15 | Mackatack | Grum: ... |
| 11:40.16 | many | :-) |
| 11:40.30 | Grum | seriously |
| 11:40.30 | Grum | ct_raidassist has been broken since 2.4 >< |
| 11:40.43 | Mackatack | you should seriously calm down a bit :P |
| 11:41.08 | Grum | huh |
| 11:41.19 | Grum | did DBM remove support for all TBC instance? |
| 11:41.21 | Grum | +s |
| 11:41.37 | Daemona | consider me puzzled, cpu at 50%, a gtx260 and 4gb ram and all i get is 36fps in dalaran !? |
| 11:41.47 | Grum | using all cores? |
| 11:41.50 | Xinhuan | thats cos wow is cpu-bound |
| 11:41.55 | Daemona | both cores 50% |
| 11:41.59 | Xinhuan | wow only uses 2 cores (even if you have more) |
| 11:42.01 | Shefki | It's Dalaran. Dalaran has a device in the middle that eats CPU time. |
| 11:42.07 | Mackatack | lol |
| 11:42.08 | Daemona | e6750 @ 3.36GHz |
| 11:42.33 | Shefki | That statue by the South bank... Not really a fountain. |
| 11:42.43 | Shefki | Evil Gnome Engineering to waste your CPU cycles. |
| 11:43.05 | SunTsu | Shefki: Then it's that cursed fountain? I KNEW IT! |
| 11:43.10 | Codayus | Got quest helper? |
| 11:43.10 | Grum | e6750 is 2.66 GHz ;) |
| 11:43.15 | Fisker- | moo: cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz 1 processor(s) at 2667MHz (10% Load) |
| 11:43.16 | Grum | oh |
| 11:43.19 | Grum | you nasty overclocker |
| 11:43.21 | Codayus | It has a tendency to go a little nuts in Dalaran. And everywhere else... |
| 11:43.22 | Fisker- | Runs at 3,33GHz of course |
| 11:43.35 | Shefki | Ohh Grum do tell us your opinion on overclockers. |
| 11:43.41 | Grum | THEY ALL |
| 11:43.48 | Grum | anyhow ;) |
| 11:43.54 | Codayus | SHOOT THEM INNA HEAD, AMIRITE? |
| 11:43.58 | Codayus | :-p |
| 11:44.07 | Grum | nono that is only for users |
| 11:44.20 | Grum | and i'd prefer to throw bricks at them |
| 11:44.26 | Fisker- | I want a GTX 285 :( |
| 11:44.34 | Fisker- | I need moar heat |
| 11:44.37 | Grum | Daemona: what resolution? :) |
| 11:44.44 | Fisker- | current heat is not enough |
| 11:44.44 | Daemona | 1690x1050 |
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| 11:45.09 | Grum | fullscreen; single monitor? |
| 11:45.38 | Daemona | Codayus its off |
| 11:45.53 | Daemona | window mode, single monitor *switches fullscreen to check* |
| 11:46.21 | Daemona | bumped up to 58 |
| 11:46.30 | Daemona | which is ok, but still not stellar |
| 11:46.39 | Shefki | Night all. |
| 11:46.44 | Grum | why does it have to be stellar? :) |
| 11:47.13 | Grum | i do around 45 fps in dalaran; same resolution and windows |
| 11:47.20 | Daemona | because if its ~60 solo in dalaran, figure what it will be like in a 25 man Sartharion with 3 drakes |
| 11:47.40 | Grum | around 30? :) |
| 11:47.50 | Grum | just for fun; disable all your addons |
| 11:48.36 | many | that extra 10 pixel are your g15? |
| 11:48.45 | Grum | i get 5 fps more even if nothing is doing anything |
| 11:49.33 | many | youaccidently turned on opengl? |
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| 11:49.38 | Daemona | many sure ;) |
| 11:49.48 | Daemona | grum fps doesnt change at all ;) |
| 11:49.52 | Grum | how can you do that addicently? :D |
| 11:49.57 | many | dunno |
| 11:50.02 | Grum | doesnt that require editing the config.wtf? :) |
| 11:50.05 | many | i just know wow -opengl sucks bigtime |
| 11:50.09 | Grum | or adding a parameter |
| 11:50.15 | Daemona | as i said, with all addons enabled, the cpu is at 50-70%on both cores |
| 11:50.53 | many | -opengl even crashes from time to time, while -direct3d never did |
| 11:51.03 | many | (on my installation, anyway.) |
| 11:51.47 | Grum | 10-15 fps less with -opengl indeed |
| 11:53.00 | Grum | its not quite possible to get >100fps in raid situations |
| 11:53.12 | Grum | anything above 20 seems to be enough though |
| 11:53.40 | Daemona | what was this flightpath performance thingy again? *rambles through google* |
| 11:55.27 | Grum | cant find it that fast hehe |
| 11:57.15 | many | i sometimes play under linux and while the fps is okay most of the time, the overall perfomance is pretty bad :/ |
| 11:58.43 | Repo | 10grid-status-hots: 03mikk * r95 / (2 files in 1 directory): Embed RosterLib-2.1 since Grid-unitguid branch does NOT. |
| 12:01.37 | Daemona | Grum -> |
| 12:01.39 | Daemona | The cluster of results at the top of the graph look suspiciously like a V-Sync cap, but we double checked to make sure that V-Sync was disabled. It looks like the Intel QX9770 processor becomes the bottleneck when you get to the GeForce GTX 260 and Radeon HD 4870 level and above. |
| 12:01.49 | Daemona | wtf QX9770 bottlenecking |
| 12:01.54 | Elkano | Mikk, wasn't RosterLib not needed anymore since there is now API for that? |
| 12:02.05 | Grum | Daemona: auchie? |
| 12:02.33 | Mikk | Elkano: gridstatushots uses it |
| 12:02.43 | Mikk | i figured id try to fix |
| 12:02.50 | Daemona | http://www.gamespot.com/features/6202200/index.html |
| 12:03.25 | sb|work | mhhhm |
| 12:03.30 | sb|work | win7 this week :o |
| 12:04.11 | Zao | sb|work: Proper public beta? |
| 12:04.16 | sb|work | yup |
| 12:04.37 | Grum | mm how to turn on those high shadows? :D |
| 12:04.43 | sb|work | and i think i will install it on my desktop system :p |
| 12:04.46 | sb|work | Grum: video config |
| 12:05.06 | Mikk | next question though |
| 12:05.08 | Daemona | sb|work is that the same version as the leaked torrent? |
| 12:05.09 | Mikk | why does one need windows 7 |
| 12:06.01 | Zao | sb|work: Been running 6801 and 7000 on my main desktop for a while now, quite stable. |
| 12:06.01 | Daemona | i considered taking a image of my laptop and make that a tet platform. |
| 12:06.01 | Zao | Mikk: It's newer and awesomer :P |
| 12:06.01 | Daemona | more awesome sauce \o/ |
| 12:06.31 | CrazyBenny | is there any addon, that can save layout of your spells on actionbars and save it, so I can load it back when I change spec? |
| 12:07.13 | Elkano | 3.1 I think ;) |
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| 12:07.32 | Mikk | Features removed from Windows 7: [...] Classic Start Menu and Taskbar |
| 12:07.33 | Mikk | yay |
| 12:07.34 | Mikk | >.< |
| 12:07.51 | Stanzilla | indeed yay |
| 12:07.53 | Kalroth | Fuckers |
| 12:08.03 | Zao | Mikk: It has a lovely "superbar" taskbar, which kind of resembles the OSX dock. |
| 12:08.04 | Stanzilla | runs Windows 7 Beta 1 |
| 12:08.04 | Kalroth | I got Vista, first thing I did was to turn off all the new shit |
| 12:08.10 | Kalroth | Same as with WinXP |
| 12:08.17 | Mikk | And now you can't anymore |
| 12:08.17 | Zao | It has a saner UAC if you like to use that. |
| 12:08.18 | Mikk | Wheeee |
| 12:09.11 | Zao | It's a nicer more mature version, kind of like 98 is to 95. |
| 12:09.18 | Repo | 10grid-status-hots: 03mikk * r96 GridStatusHots.toc: |
| 12:09.21 | Repo | Dangit, backslash, not front slash. RosterLib loads embedded now. |
| 12:09.26 | Elkano | same here |
| 12:09.30 | Daemona | M$ lost all my sym |
| 12:09.43 | Daemona | pathy when they removed the address bar from the task bar with sp3 on winxp |
| 12:10.01 | Zao | Mikk: And it has DX11, but I assume that's rather irrelevant in here :) |
| 12:10.16 | Stanzilla | 7 is how Vista should have been |
| 12:10.44 | Mikk | prefers the maturity of XP thankyouverymuch |
| 12:11.12 | Elkano | XP? 2k! |
| 12:11.19 | Mikk | Well yeah, I had 2k til about a year ago |
| 12:11.46 | Mikk | My midi keyboard hated it though =( |
| 12:12.07 | Mikk | Or rather the fuckers that wrote the usb drivers couldnt be arsed to make the drivers work under 2k too |
| 12:12.09 | Mikk | curses |
| 12:12.17 | Elkano | being able to set up vista with the classic look was the main reason for me not purging it directly... |
| 12:12.21 | Mikk | But then I'd already shelled out 300 euro |
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| 12:12.32 | Repo | 10grid: 03Greltok 07unitguid * r1109 / (2 files in 1 directory): Ready check colors are now user editable. |
| 12:14.54 | Mikk | hmmm elkano |
| 12:15.05 | Mikk | can you educate me a bit on whatever changes were made in grid-unitguid |
| 12:15.14 | Mikk | that could make gridstatushots work kinda fine |
| 12:15.21 | Mikk | except never remove its statuses |
| 12:15.27 | Mikk | if self.core:GetCachedStatus(name, "alert_gracestack") then self.core:SendStatusLost(name, "alert_gracestack") end |
| 12:15.34 | Mikk | something here seems to not be happening |
| 12:16.33 | Mikk | hmmmmm guids |
| 12:16.53 | Elkano | since I don't code grid nor use the guid branch: no |
| 12:17.20 | Elkano | when I talked about the API I ment UnitInParty/UnitInRaid |
| 12:17.27 | Mikk | nods |
| 12:17.46 | Mikk | gridstatushots is a bit speshul that way... it keeps iterating over everyone :S |
| 12:17.54 | Mikk | (no, it doesnt even use specialevents) |
| 12:18.57 | Arrowmaster | the bigest change is that it uses a guid as a reference instead of a name, i think that was the reason all other modules needed to be fixed for it |
| 12:19.02 | many | wow. 12 EUR for 2 blizz authenticators plus 10 eur shipping. pft. |
| 12:19.21 | Mikk | Arrowmaster: it does convert name->guid in several of the APIs though |
| 12:19.26 | Mikk | if needed, that is |
| 12:19.37 | Arrowmaster | you shouldnt rely on that though |
| 12:20.02 | Mikk | mmno |
| 12:20.16 | Mikk | would you happen to know how to tell if the unitguid version is running |
| 12:20.27 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 12:20.44 | Arrowmaster | i dont even use grid, or any raid frames, or unitframes for that matter |
| 12:20.45 | Mikk | aha, GridRoster existing seems likely |
| 12:20.50 | Mikk | o.O |
| 12:21.13 | Mikk | i take it you dont play a healing/decursing class in raids then |
| 12:21.19 | Arrowmaster | warlock |
| 12:21.23 | Mikk | :> |
| 12:21.39 | Arrowmaster | i do /target name when i need so summon somebody |
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| 12:29.25 | Arrowmaster | http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTIzMTI2MDk2M0s3RVppRkRMQXhfMV8xX2wuanBn |
| 12:29.27 | Arrowmaster | do want |
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| 12:38.19 | Fisker- | OMG MOAR Arrowmaster |
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| 12:38.48 | Fisker- | giev link to article while i change into some unstained underwear hoho |
| 12:39.25 | Arrowmaster | http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/news.html?news=MzcxMDQsLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdCwsLDE= |
| 12:41.07 | Arrowmaster | going to bed |
| 12:46.19 | Fisker- | â¢The Orb is now instantly clickable. |
| 12:46.20 | Fisker- | hehe |
| 12:46.41 | Fisker- | So pretty much undefendable just became most definitely undefendable |
| 12:46.41 | Fisker- | :D |
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| 13:13.13 | RaydenU | rolling restarts on the 7th? |
| 13:13.19 | RaydenU | patch wednesday? |
| 13:13.48 | sztanpet | yes, finally |
| 13:14.03 | sztanpet | next wednesday tho |
| 13:15.29 | Fisker- | SAUCE |
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| 13:25.57 | WobWork | why are they rolling restarts? |
| 13:26.43 | RaydenU | my guild thinks emergency pally nerf |
| 13:27.01 | SunTsu | what me surprises more is the fact that it's the second week in a row with rolling restarts and no maintenance window on Nozdorm/EU |
| 13:27.09 | many | emergency mage nerf before they raid the whole content solo |
| 13:27.35 | SunTsu | many: AFAIK spell stealing already got hotfixedd |
| 13:27.42 | SunTsu | -d |
| 13:27.55 | many | oh |
| 13:27.59 | Repo | 10grid-status-hots: 03mikk * r97 / (3 files in 1 directory): - Toss RosterLib embed back out again. My bad. |
| 13:28.01 | Repo | - Use GridRoster if unitguid version of Grid is loaded |
| 13:28.04 | Repo | - Works with both Grid-mainline and Grid-unitguid |
| 13:28.06 | Mikk | Tadaaa |
| 13:28.41 | many | emergency DK nerf before they realize runic power corelates to dmg in given situations |
| 13:28.44 | many | :) |
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| 13:32.44 | TNSe | lol |
| 13:32.58 | TNSe | the mages were like "Why can't I spell steal" on the way to instructor last week |
| 13:35.38 | TNSe | Are they rolling restarting US realms? |
| 13:36.45 | thul | what? what nerf? :-( |
| 13:37.17 | RaydenU | yes |
| 13:37.20 | RaydenU | rolling US |
| 13:37.34 | thul | :/ |
| 13:37.35 | thul | poor dk |
| 13:37.55 | RaydenU | nerfed spellsteal, after someone soloe'd a section of heroic naxx? |
| 13:38.24 | many | LOOTALLMINEZ |
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| 13:51.21 | Fisker- | WobWork what do you mean why they are rolling restarts? :o |
| 13:52.05 | [Wobin] | what are they fixing that requires a rolling restart |
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| 14:02.36 | Repo | 10arl: 03ozma211 * r1325 Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua: AckisRecipeList: |
| 14:02.40 | Repo | - koKR Update |
| 14:02.43 | digmouse | not nerf steal |
| 14:02.56 | digmouse | that bone shield can not be stolen any more |
| 14:03.02 | digmouse | only dispellable |
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| 14:05.15 | Repo | 10buttonfacade_litestep: 03StormFX * r35 / (3 files in 2 directories): - Fixed a typo. |
| 14:05.17 | Repo | - Adjusted the version. |
| 14:05.20 | Repo | - Fixed it so that debuff coloring works (somewhat). |
| 14:05.22 | Repo | - The skin should control the alpha, not the texture. |
| 14:06.57 | Repo | 10buttonfacade_apathy: 03StormFX 043.0.58 * r63 : - Tag cleanup. |
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| 14:07.37 | Repo | 10buttonfacade_caith: 03StormFX * r46 tags/ (4 files in 4 directories): - Tag cleanup |
| 14:08.21 | Repo | 10buttonfacade_entropy: 03StormFX * r45 tags/ (3 files in 3 directories): - Tag cleanup |
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| 14:15.01 | Repo | 10buttonfacade_litestep: 03StormFX 043.0.35 * r36 : Tagging as 3.0.35 |
| 14:17.03 | thul | woo, i got my new screen |
| 14:17.47 | Repo | 10buttonfacade_litestep: 03StormFX * r37 tags/ (3 files in 3 directories): - Tag clean up. |
| 14:19.10 | Repo | 10shadowgreenlight: 03Mokhtar * r8 Core.lua: - Added numeric and recast indicator |
| 14:19.12 | Repo | - Added more configuration options |
| 14:19.14 | Repo | - Cleaned up code and made final display look better |
| 14:21.17 | Repo | 10shadowgreenlight: 03Mokhtar 04v1.0 * r9 : Tagging as v1.0 |
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| 14:31.09 | Repo | 10recount-death-track: 03Elsia 043.0.3 beta * r14 : Tagging as 3.0.3 beta |
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| 14:34.16 | Fisker- | ah WobWork doesn't nessecarily mean they're fixing anything :D |
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| 14:38.04 | nevcairiel | morning |
| 14:38.33 | Kalroth | morning nev baby |
| 14:42.22 | Fisker- | hits on nevcairiel |
| 14:42.26 | Fisker- | physically that is |
| 14:43.05 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.2.3-1-g303cea0 ActionButton.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed the hotkey range-indicator |
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| 14:47.07 | thul | morrrrrrrrrrning |
| 14:57.05 | nevcairiel | hi thul |
| 14:57.36 | thul | whats up nevcairiel ? |
| 14:57.44 | nevcairiel | not much |
| 14:57.46 | nevcairiel | tired :( |
| 14:59.29 | thul | ach, too much work? |
| 14:59.35 | thul | or too much play? |
| 15:00.13 | nevcairiel | not enough sleep =P |
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| 15:01.03 | thul | hehe |
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| 15:26.11 | oofl | does anyone happen to know the difference between this http://www.wowace.com/projects/recount-death-track/ and the standard Death window in Recount? Am I missing something? ^^ |
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| 15:33.30 | yoshimo | is it possible to check an enemy mob for a buff if i know the spellid of this buff? |
| 15:34.32 | nevcairiel | if you know the id, you can get the name, and you can easily check for named buffs |
| 15:34.56 | viisual | UnitBuff("target", ID) ? |
| 15:35.03 | nevcairiel | I believe UnitBuff("target", <name>) works now |
| 15:35.09 | nevcairiel | and no, it only takes names and index |
| 15:35.10 | AckisWork | any electrician types here? |
| 15:35.10 | nevcairiel | not i |
| 15:35.12 | nevcairiel | not id |
| 15:35.33 | viisual | UnitBuff("target", GetSpellInfo(ID)) |
| 15:35.50 | nevcairiel | or UnitDebuff if you mean that =P |
| 15:38.26 | AckisWork | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:38.59 | nevcairiel | * Mining veins and deposits no longer require multiple hits to receive all the ore. Players will receive around the same amount of ore, stone, and gems they would have received from multiple hits. |
| 15:39.01 | nevcairiel | awesom^ |
| 15:39.02 | nevcairiel | +e |
| 15:39.21 | AckisWork | so you just need to hit it once? |
| 15:39.34 | nevcairiel | apparently |
| 15:39.40 | JY` | wut |
| 15:39.59 | Grum | that will speed up mining |
| 15:40.04 | Grum | and make ninjaing worse |
| 15:40.07 | sztanpet | you mine from it only once |
| 15:40.30 | nevcairiel | ninjaing worse? |
| 15:40.39 | nevcairiel | at least someone cant slip in between your hits if you have lag or so |
| 15:40.40 | Fisker- | Well someone could CC you |
| 15:40.44 | Fisker- | get all the mining shit |
| 15:40.45 | Fisker- | win |
| 15:40.54 | Pneumatus | reroll pve tbh |
| 15:40.57 | Fisker- | Now they can cc you, get some of the mining shit, FUCKING DIE |
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| 15:41.23 | Fisker- | just interrupt it in combat :3 |
| 15:41.25 | viisual | carry a trinket on you |
| 15:41.28 | Fisker- | = druids getting pwnt etc. |
| 15:41.38 | Fisker- | viisual then you use another cc duh |
| 15:41.59 | Fisker- | or the same |
| 15:42.05 | AckisWork | Fisker-: kill them first? |
| 15:42.21 | Fisker- | It's funnier to CC them |
| 15:42.24 | Fisker- | Then laugh at them |
| 15:42.26 | Fisker- | then kill them |
| 15:42.30 | Fisker- | then wait for them to ress |
| 15:42.32 | Fisker- | then kill them again |
| 15:42.34 | AckisWork | MC > all |
| 15:42.36 | Fisker- | Then get spat on |
| 15:42.40 | Fisker- | then kill them again |
| 15:44.03 | AckisWork | /loves Fisker- |
| 15:44.15 | AckisWork | Fisker- you should roll on my server |
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| 15:45.10 | Megalon | nevcairiel: still missing being able to mine in flight form :( |
| 15:45.20 | Fisker- | Are you alliance AckisWork ? |
| 15:45.30 | haste | Megalon: that wouldn't be overpowered at all :P |
| 15:45.31 | Megalon | Fisker-: he's a troll, just like you :p |
| 15:45.43 | Fisker- | i'm not a troll |
| 15:45.50 | Megalon | in your heart, you are |
| 15:46.12 | sacarasc | [15:45:42] <Fisker-> i'm not a troll |
| 15:46.17 | sacarasc | never heard a bigger lie |
| 15:46.24 | AckisWork | Megalon: stalking me much? |
| 15:47.11 | Megalon | troll priest with staff from kj |
| 15:47.16 | Fisker- | it's no lie :( |
| 15:47.34 | Megalon | you posted your armory link once i think |
| 15:47.35 | AckisWork | Megalon: lol |
| 15:48.00 | Megalon | when you transfered or so |
| 15:48.14 | Megalon | my brain never gets rid of useless knowledge |
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| 15:48.16 | Megalon | :7 |
| 15:50.49 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: L["Apprentice's Duties"] = "Lehrlingspflichten" -- Needs review |
| 15:50.59 | AckisWork | can I say that it's been reviewed? |
| 15:51.03 | nevcairiel | I dont do translating |
| 15:51.27 | AckisWork | just asking for review :P |
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| 16:03.47 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1327 Locals/ARLLocals-zhCN.lua: Add zhCN translations by ananhaid |
| 16:06.00 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles * r63 / (3 files in 1 directory): EasyDKP: - |
| 16:06.02 | Repo | drycoded changes to chat output options |
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| 16:06.43 | AckisWork | damn I almost thought that was my commit note and I was like wtf, I didn't put dry-coded in my note? |
| 16:06.53 | Repo | 10enhancedcalendar: 03Pericles * r11 / (2 files in 1 directory): RaidInviter: - |
| 16:06.56 | Repo | drycoded changes :- |
| 16:06.58 | Repo | added calendar_open_event to try to capture data when scanning through the days events. |
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| 16:07.35 | Bruners | fucking windows mediaplayer sync is crashing my phone |
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| 16:10.28 | AckisWork | can someone open up http://www.wowbox.tw/bbs/download/file.php?id=16299&sid=39a5ef65979e9deb726db6aff4b1a364 and either convert it to .zip or pastey the ARLLocals-zhTW.lua for me? new pc doesn't have .rar support |
| 16:11.41 | Grum | www.rarlabs.com |
| 16:11.56 | Grum | go install rar support; you need it |
| 16:12.05 | AckisWork | can't install stuff on work PC's :P |
| 16:12.11 | AckisWork | (otherwise I would have done that a long time ago) |
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| 16:12.15 | Grum | then google for unrar.exe |
| 16:12.47 | viisual | Grum, that sounds safe. |
| 16:13.03 | Grum | just as safe as downloading from a .tw site :P |
| 16:13.24 | viisual | lol |
| 16:13.35 | yoshimo | can i tell different spells resulting in the same buff"name" apart with unitaura() ? they are all called elemental shield only the tooltiptext differs |
| 16:14.36 | AckisWork | Grum: I've dled from that site a few times, and there's been no infection, it's just code in a .rar :P he just hosts my addon *grumbles* |
| 16:14.48 | Grum | unrar.exe ;) |
| 16:14.57 | nevcairiel | rar needs to die |
| 16:15.05 | Grum | and kill your ... whatever for having such stupid rules on pcs |
| 16:15.06 | nevcairiel | zip, bz2, 7z .. why use rar <.< |
| 16:15.14 | Pneumatus | 7z needs to die |
| 16:15.22 | viisual | Ackis, www.7-zip.org |
| 16:15.34 | Grum | 'the scene' uses rar |
| 16:15.42 | Grum | only reason it exists i guess |
| 16:15.53 | many | it once had the best compression ratio |
| 16:15.57 | many | thats why they used it |
| 16:16.00 | Funkeh` | why does 7z need to die |
| 16:16.02 | viisual | To piece together large files, was great when the interent was slow. |
| 16:16.06 | Grum | no they use it for multipart files |
| 16:16.08 | si-m1 | AckisWork: http://h4x.no/ARLLocals-zhTW.lua |
| 16:16.09 | Funkeh` | rar needs to die imo |
| 16:16.17 | many | even zip knows m/p |
| 16:16.25 | nevcairiel | yeah i think rar has the best multipart support |
| 16:16.32 | Funkeh` | then again, I use 7z's zip compression |
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| 16:16.46 | many | bzip -9 + split(1) ftw |
| 16:16.49 | many | runs |
| 16:17.08 | Bruners | nevcairiel: rar > * |
| 16:17.09 | kenlyric | multipart is for dialup. |
| 16:17.11 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: wasn't rar better compression at one point? /shrug all the clients handle all compression now |
| 16:17.15 | AckisWork | si-m1: tyvm |
| 16:17.19 | ckknight | the Koreans and Spaniards appear to be slacking: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/localization/ |
| 16:17.25 | Funkeh` | multipart for this day and age? :/ |
| 16:17.33 | Pneumatus | AckisWork: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=3494 source appears to be missing from ARL |
| 16:17.38 | many | infused mushrooms must die |
| 16:17.41 | kenlyric | winzip does rar? that's new |
| 16:17.42 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: some people seem to like rapidshare junk |
| 16:17.46 | Fisker- | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:17.51 | Bruners | Funkeh`: wery much so. blue ray etc |
| 16:17.52 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1328 Locals/ARLLocals-zhTW.lua: zhTW update. |
| 16:18.02 | nevcairiel | what has bluray todo with rar multipart |
| 16:18.07 | Funkeh` | what does blueray gotta do with it |
| 16:18.12 | Funkeh` | beaten |
| 16:18.17 | Bruners | large files then |
| 16:18.19 | many | total commander > * |
| 16:18.22 | si-m1 | AckisWork: ty for addon ^^ |
| 16:18.35 | nevcairiel | You can download any file size in one piece |
| 16:18.36 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
| 16:18.47 | Pneumatus | AckisWork: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=3496 source also appears to be missing from ARL |
| 16:18.50 | kenlyric | there's no freaking point in compression at all |
| 16:18.56 | many | not if you use dumb servers which dont understand reget |
| 16:18.58 | AckisWork | Pneumatus: source as in acquire info? |
| 16:19.03 | Pneumatus | yes |
| 16:19.04 | AckisWork | si-m1: glad you like it :) |
| 16:19.10 | Funkeh` | I disagree, 700mb movie > 4gb movie |
| 16:19.12 | kenlyric | except to act as a Tar |
| 16:19.13 | AckisWork | Pneumatus: kk I just added 3494 yesterday |
| 16:19.24 | Bruners | you can, but if you get corruption in the middle of the transfer you have to start over again |
| 16:19.27 | Grum | rarparts are useful for their purposes |
| 16:19.30 | kenlyric | Funkeh`: that compression happens in the video, not in the zip file |
| 16:19.41 | nevcairiel | Bruners: thats why you use some smart protocol, shrug |
| 16:19.47 | Funkeh` | Yes I was speaking in general, do you just mean in zip? |
| 16:19.47 | Pneumatus | AckisWork: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=3503 also |
| 16:19.51 | kenlyric | honestly what kind of compression can they provide to already compressed media files? |
| 16:20.00 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 16:20.02 | kenlyric | well, zip, rar, 7z, etc |
| 16:20.09 | nevcairiel | its at the most 5-10% |
| 16:20.11 | Funkeh` | I don't need compressed media files these days |
| 16:20.12 | Bruners | scene-releases dont use compression, its not allowed :P |
| 16:20.14 | nevcairiel | and takes ages to unpack |
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| 16:20.18 | Funkeh` | WEll beyond the encoded compresion |
| 16:20.20 | Megalon | the best part is |
| 16:20.24 | Megalon | when the multipart large files |
| 16:20.27 | Funkeh` | Still, people multipart rar sometimes |
| 16:20.30 | Grum | they do on some stuff; like 0day |
| 16:20.31 | Megalon | zip those all into one zip |
| 16:20.33 | Funkeh` | stupid, *imo* |
| 16:20.34 | Megalon | >:S |
| 16:20.36 | Grum | but most disallow compression |
| 16:20.42 | AckisWork | Pneumatus: http://www.wowace.com/paste/103/ <-- all missing stuff right now in the latest alpha |
| 16:20.48 | Pneumatus | the scene only multipart so they can fxp quicker |
| 16:20.56 | Pneumatus | as 1 large file < many smaller files |
| 16:21.00 | Funkeh` | all the main EZTV stuff these days tends to be avi |
| 16:21.00 | nevcairiel | multipart rar's, in fact any form of external compression, isnt allowed on the stuff i use =P |
| 16:21.02 | Grum | and sfv checking small files is *WAY* faster |
| 16:21.14 | Grum | Funkeh`: eztv are the scene leeches :) |
| 16:21.27 | many | fxp shouldnt care, theyre on fast lines anyway |
| 16:21.46 | Grum | they care so multiple people can join in |
| 16:21.52 | Pneumatus | and if you usenet, rar splits also win along with PAR2 |
| 16:21.57 | Funkeh` | Grum, I trust ezta because it doesn't shove 40 rar files down my throat |
| 16:21.58 | many | bittorrent > m/p rar, although i guess one might argue that its just further development |
| 16:22.12 | Grum | Funkeh`: eztv unpacks .. brrrr |
| 16:22.25 | Funkeh` | When I seed I want to seed 1 file, the one that I watch. I don't want twice the data taken on my HD because I want to seed and watch |
| 16:22.29 | nevcairiel | if you are really anal, you could say that torrent splits the file for you in chunks |
| 16:22.29 | kenlyric | torrent is billionpart-rar |
| 16:22.30 | many | did i mention that infused mushroom suck |
| 16:22.30 | nevcairiel | but shrug |
| 16:22.38 | Grum | jsut watch i from the rars? :) |
| 16:22.40 | many | kenlyric: ... although one might argue... |
| 16:22.42 | Grum | they are not packed ;) |
| 16:22.43 | Funkeh` | lol nevcairiel |
| 16:22.47 | Bruners | part01.rar part02.rar needs to die |
| 16:22.52 | kenlyric | many times |
| 16:22.53 | Grum | yes that i agree on :) |
| 16:23.03 | Bruners | r00, r01, r02 > * |
| 16:23.11 | Funkeh` | ... |
| 16:23.12 | kenlyric | that shit is for newsgroups |
| 16:23.13 | Funkeh` | no |
| 16:23.16 | Megalon | yea, torrent is just the ultimate multipart thing |
| 16:23.17 | Funkeh` | they both suck my balls |
| 16:23.17 | Grum | no kenlyric |
| 16:23.20 | Grum | that is how it is at the source |
| 16:23.27 | kenlyric | bads go back to 1995 |
| 16:23.32 | Funkeh` | 1 file no bullshit |
| 16:23.51 | Grum | just get a player capable of playing from rarfiles hehe |
| 16:23.52 | AckisWork | kenlyric: 1995 was a good year |
| 16:24.14 | kenlyric | I used to store stuff in 7zip files at ultra compression. Then I was like "wtf, these are text files" |
| 16:24.15 | Funkeh` | I don't download rrfiles so I'm so =P |
| 16:24.16 | Bruners | bsplayer rules your rar-files |
| 16:24.35 | kenlyric | one maximum compression tv show takes up more space than all text I have ever generated. |
| 16:24.49 | Funkeh` | I'm swapping between wmp w/ k-lite and VLC at the moment |
| 16:24.57 | nevcairiel | ew wmp |
| 16:25.02 | Grum | using vlc atm |
| 16:25.05 | nevcairiel | i'm using MPC-HC with k-lite |
| 16:25.06 | kenlyric | I can't get the hang of vlc |
| 16:25.10 | Grum | mostly because mplayerc has been a prick |
| 16:25.11 | Bruners | wmp is for wma/wmv only |
| 16:25.15 | kenlyric | and wmp works with orb.com fairly well. |
| 16:25.17 | AckisWork | kenlyric: why store stuff in maximum compression? |
| 16:25.24 | kenlyric | AckisWork: exactly |
| 16:25.29 | Bruners | vlc for streaming tv |
| 16:25.31 | AckisWork | disk space = cheap |
| 16:25.32 | kenlyric | now I don't compress |
| 16:25.32 | Grum | who is taking about compression? |
| 16:25.42 | Funkeh` | It's not about diskspace dude |
| 16:25.47 | Funkeh` | It's about download time |
| 16:25.53 | kenlyric | pffft |
| 16:25.55 | Grum | yes rars add so much to the download time o.O |
| 16:25.57 | Funkeh` | That's why it was invented |
| 16:26.02 | AckisWork | download speed = fast |
| 16:26.05 | kenlyric | again I say, bads back to 1995 |
| 16:26.06 | Funkeh` | "back int he day" |
| 16:26.10 | Funkeh` | ^ |
| 16:26.14 | Grum | that is so bullshit :) |
| 16:26.23 | nevcairiel | webservers should support on the fly gzipping, if they are configured properly |
| 16:26.25 | Grum | it doesnt increase download speed to have multiple files |
| 16:26.32 | many | wtf |
| 16:26.34 | many | download speed |
| 16:26.36 | Funkeh` | ?!? |
| 16:26.44 | Funkeh` | download *time* |
| 16:26.47 | many | when it was invented rars split to exactly 1.44 mb |
| 16:26.50 | Funkeh` | nothing to do with speed |
| 16:26.51 | Grum | indeed |
| 16:26.52 | many | there was no fscking download |
| 16:26.56 | Grum | it was just to split files |
| 16:26.57 | nevcairiel | Grum: compressions in general, not "split" |
| 16:26.58 | Funkeh` | we're talking ISDN here |
| 16:27.07 | Grum | nevcairiel: nothing is compressed by the scene |
| 16:27.08 | many | we're talking *floppy disks* |
| 16:27.10 | Grum | its disallowed o.O |
| 16:27.15 | Grum | except 0day stuff |
| 16:27.18 | nevcairiel | Grum: you are stuck 5 minutes ago |
| 16:27.24 | Grum | which is tiny cracks/loose setup.exes etc |
| 16:27.30 | AckisWork | hmmm how would you compress punch cards? |
| 16:27.38 | Megalon | AckisWork: by punching them |
| 16:27.50 | Grum | Funkeh`: rarparts have nothing to do with any networking |
| 16:27.52 | Bruners | used arj for floppy splits back in the day |
| 16:27.55 | Funkeh` | Well as far as I can see, the rar trend for torrents is slowly dieing out, which *imo* is a good thing for this day |
| 16:28.06 | Grum | Bruners: yeah arj was there as well .. same with ACE |
| 16:28.12 | Grum | but both died because the scene pushed on with rar |
| 16:28.14 | many | we packed files together and split them to disks so the disks being sent per snail mail were perfectly used |
| 16:28.21 | nevcairiel | torrents with rars in them only happend because people are too lazy to unrar before torrenting |
| 16:28.23 | AckisWork | Grum: Ace isn't an acronym! ;) |
| 16:28.34 | Repo | 10benecast: 03Wintrow2 * r127 SpellList.lua: Started on putting in some shaman spells |
| 16:28.55 | Grum | nevcairiel: actually .. it is people spreading the original thing |
| 16:29.01 | Grum | so you know what you download |
| 16:29.08 | Grum | and can actualyl verify it with external sources |
| 16:29.21 | nevcairiel | you can do that after unpacking too |
| 16:29.42 | Zhinjio | G'morning, folks. |
| 16:29.46 | Grum | sure but that is not how it is spread originally |
| 16:30.02 | AckisWork | mornign Zhinjio |
| 16:30.05 | nevcairiel | I mean, i can build a virus, inflate it to 700 mb, and plit it into 15mb rar chunks |
| 16:30.06 | many | isdn. sigh. after floppy disks we had 14.4 isdn wasnt even remotely in sight |
| 16:30.09 | Zao | The "p2p scene" are just picking up the scraps from under the dinner table of the scene. |
| 16:30.26 | Grum | iew .. p2p and scene within the same quotes |
| 16:30.59 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, It would be as popular as a rock in water |
| 16:31.07 | many | anyone know xp? no, not windows xp. the xp before windows. |
| 16:31.34 | onaforeign|Zzz | many: rar actually split files into 360k, 720k, 1.2mb, 1.44mb - the size of floppy disks |
| 16:31.56 | Grum | onaforeign|Zzz: that was the original reason yeah |
| 16:31.58 | ckknight | many: extreme programming? |
| 16:32.00 | many | onaforeign|Zzz: yep. however snail mailing 5 1/4 was dangerous |
| 16:32.10 | Bruners | xtreme pubes? |
| 16:32.16 | Funkeh` | ? |
| 16:32.31 | many | i start feeling old |
| 16:33.10 | Funkeh` | heh, the biggest leaps have happened in the past 8 years, just wait another 8 and see how old you feel |
| 16:33.17 | SunTsu | many: Maybe because you are ;> |
| 16:33.19 | many | :< |
| 16:33.23 | onaforeignshore | many: even 3 1/2 was chancy to mail |
| 16:33.25 | many | SunTsu: STFU%/%/(²³³!@%&$! |
| 16:33.33 | SunTsu | many: But you sure mean crosspoint ;) |
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| 16:33.41 | Funkeh` | he even swears in code |
| 16:33.44 | SunTsu | is old, too |
| 16:33.44 | many | SunTsu: YES. thankyoudude. |
| 16:33.50 | Megalon | he swears in perl |
| 16:33.51 | Megalon | RUN!!! |
| 16:33.52 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 16:33.59 | Grum | s/Megalon//!!!! |
| 16:34.07 | onaforeignshore | Megalon: plain and perl? |
| 16:34.12 | many | onaforeignshore: the loss with 3,5 was considerably smaller than with 5 1/4, though |
| 16:34.55 | many | future trance vol 46, i wonder when they will stop counting. |
| 16:35.09 | onaforeignshore | many: true. but knowing the postal service, even sending CD/DVD/etc disks are chancy these days :p |
| 16:35.37 | many | onaforeignshore: i wouldnt try, the internet is faster. you need to send a whole truck of cds to be faster than uploading it to me :-P |
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| 16:35.58 | SunTsu | many: As soon they will bring out "past Trance Vol. I" ;) |
| 16:36.04 | many | SunTsu: hehe |
| 16:36.07 | Grum | many: most people have <250kb/s :P |
| 16:36.13 | many | ? |
| 16:36.19 | AckisWork | anyone use 8 inch floppies/ |
| 16:36.30 | Grum | upload speed |
| 16:36.34 | many | my parents have, only because they have fibre optics in their part of the city |
| 16:36.38 | steev | AckisWork: yar |
| 16:36.40 | Grum | sending 2-3 dvds by mail is prolly faster ;D |
| 16:36.43 | steev | well, not currerntly |
| 16:36.46 | steev | -r |
| 16:37.02 | many | AckisWork: use? no. used? yes. also datasettes |
| 16:37.28 | Funkeh` | fast upload speed is a luxury currently |
| 16:37.43 | many | *whistle* |
| 16:37.43 | Funkeh` | One most ISP generally "don't give a shit" about |
| 16:37.56 | Grum | and as it appears in a lot of countries; no traffic limits as well |
| 16:37.58 | many | pats his optical 1gb uplinks |
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| 16:38.20 | nevcairiel | you either pay really alot for that, or you work for an ISP or so :P |
| 16:38.31 | many | neither |
| 16:38.35 | Bruners | AckisWork: only 5 1/4 inch ones |
| 16:38.44 | many | i work for a rather smallish nap |
| 16:38.45 | steev | Bruners: you're too young then |
| 16:39.02 | Funkeh` | I'm on an 8 down soon to be 24 down and still on a 256 upload |
| 16:39.14 | many | and we're introducing the 10GbE equipment currently. wooohoo. |
| 16:39.29 | Funkeh` | we won't be on the 100/100 untill at least 2012 |
| 16:39.55 | steev | i want to work on nap :( |
| 16:40.03 | steev | i get yelled at when i nap at work |
| 16:40.05 | Bruners | steev: not even born when they where in use |
| 16:40.09 | nevcairiel | many: be happy, you're a very rare exception then :P most people are happy to even get 16 down and 1 up |
| 16:40.37 | many | nevcairiel: -athome- i downgraded to 6 up / 512 down |
| 16:40.41 | many | eh, vice versa |
| 16:40.42 | Funkeh` | idd |
| 16:41.06 | nevcairiel | who cares about their at-work connection :P |
| 16:41.11 | Bruners | 20ish / 1 here, when its working... |
| 16:41.12 | many | i. |
| 16:41.12 | Funkeh` | then again the only reason I want more up is for the extra machines on this LAN. Sometimes I have friends and whatnot over |
| 16:41.13 | nevcairiel | not like you can freely use it, most of the time |
| 16:41.22 | many | since i manage the stuff i can (ab)use it as much as i like |
| 16:41.24 | steev | Bruners: eh, my high school was in a small town... when i was a senior we were putting together one of those new fangled 486 things (i already had a pentium 133 at home) |
| 16:41.36 | many | :-) |
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| 16:42.15 | steev | i also care about my at work connection... if its too slow my torrents go too slow :( |
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| 16:42.58 | many | seriously, the other day i was fetching some rather large wow update and tellyouwhat, i had an upload of ... 6kbyte? i could've upped with a much larger factor and wouldnt have cared, but nobody wanted to leech |
| 16:43.04 | Bruners | <- this box is on 100/100 |
| 16:44.01 | steev | so, if i wanna be one of those silly dk dual wielders, where would i go heroics wise for some deeps swords |
| 16:44.10 | steev | or should i be looking for crafted gears |
| 16:44.20 | steev | im currently using 2 1h's from ebon blade |
| 16:44.41 | Bruners | steev: think there is a post on gears on EJ |
| 16:45.40 | Bruners | http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t40538-pre_raid_dk_dps_gear_list/ |
| 16:45.49 | cubicool | Hey guys, I'm looking to find a mod that will give me a log of what happens to me from the moment I enter combat to the point that I either leave or die, in a nicely formatted way. Not a summary like Recount, but more like this old mod whose name I can't remember. Any recommendations? |
| 16:46.05 | cubicool | I know that's really vague. :( |
| 16:46.15 | quiescens | wouldn't such a log be really long |
| 16:46.27 | waallen | That's something WWS could do I believe |
| 16:46.41 | Bruners | make a filter with the built in combatlog |
| 16:46.41 | durcyn | there are several death logs out there.. expiration, acheron, recount_deathtrack |
| 16:46.43 | cubicool | Well, there used to be this cool mod that had your stuff on the left, their stuff on right, with icons, etc. |
| 16:46.49 | durcyn | also grim reaper |
| 16:47.05 | steev | Bruners: oh cool, i hadn't found that thread |
| 16:47.06 | quiescens | the old hitsmode type thingy? |
| 16:47.23 | steev | sadly, i have most of that gear, but its for my 2h spec |
| 16:47.53 | many | i wonder why 2H should be better than 2x1H |
| 16:48.16 | thul | death logs? |
| 16:48.21 | quiescens | depending on how you spec a lot of abilities are based on per hit damage |
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| 16:49.16 | many | *scratch* |
| 16:49.17 | steev | many: hit rating requirements between 2h and dual wield penalties |
| 16:49.21 | cubicool | I guess death log would be accurate terminology; something to tell me how much these pallies and DK's and mages are hitting me for before I get gibbed. |
| 16:49.36 | steev | mages are hitting you? |
| 16:49.46 | cubicool | With spells? Yes. |
| 16:49.50 | many | ah. larger dmg per hit, not the number of hits |
| 16:50.06 | steev | many: assuming you don't miss :-P |
| 16:50.11 | Repo | 10zzhuntar: 03Turaka * r2 / (61 files in 15 directories): * 1.0 Start release |
| 16:50.17 | Megalon | many: most dk styles use % of weapon damage |
| 16:50.25 | steev | yep |
| 16:50.35 | steev | %weapon damage plus xx per disease |
| 16:50.39 | Megalon | and for those 2h are win |
| 16:50.58 | steev | except runestrike which is 200% weapon damage (nerfed in 3.0.8) |
| 16:50.59 | Megalon | but the dw specc uses howling blast, which is weaponindependant on damage |
| 16:51.13 | quiescens | there are dual wield specs that ignore or mostly ignore the weapon damage based attacks |
| 16:51.22 | Obelixprime | So, I was reading through the 3.0.8 patch notes, and a lot of the warlock and priest spells were modified such that they "will now calculate the correct damage modifiers for the creature type of the target. " |
| 16:51.25 | Obelixprime | what does that mean? |
| 16:51.33 | Megalon | and some talents which favor fast weapons |
| 16:51.41 | many | i wouldve thought that adds back via dps |
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| 16:51.54 | steev | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Draka&n=Steev |
| 16:51.58 | steev | thats my current spec |
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| 16:52.52 | Megalon | yea, that is the dw specc for imbadps atm :x |
| 16:53.02 | steev | i haven't really had a chance to play with it though aside from wintergrasp |
| 16:53.24 | steev | and a few wsg's |
| 16:53.50 | steev | its kinda funny taking a pally down to 0 health and having started the fight at 2k health myself |
| 16:53.56 | Grum | what kind of dps can you expect from a DK? |
| 16:54.14 | steev | Grum: in terribad gear they should still be able to put out 1.5k |
| 16:54.16 | quiescens | about as much as you could expect from anyone else? |
| 16:54.21 | Grum | single target? |
| 16:54.24 | SunTsu | Grum: depends on what kind of fight and what kind of specc |
| 16:54.26 | steev | blood spec |
| 16:55.05 | SunTsu | Grum: Put a unholy DK on a AoE fight and he will sky rocket |
| 16:55.23 | steev | mhm |
| 16:55.25 | Grum | lets say you are geared; have heroism; are in the best '1 target dps spec' and are fighting Patchwerk |
| 16:55.30 | AckisWork | ~wowspell 56483 |
| 16:55.31 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=56483 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=56483 |
| 16:55.33 | Grum | in 25m; what for dps to expect? |
| 16:55.33 | steev | Grum: depends |
| 16:55.34 | SunTsu | And every caster with him as long as the mobs last |
| 16:55.41 | steev | what spec is he |
| 16:55.46 | quiescens | you missed the most important part of the dps equation |
| 16:55.46 | Grum | you tell me |
| 16:55.50 | Grum | i have no idea :) |
| 16:56.00 | quiescens | the part where you assume the player is perfect and knows exactly what to hit all the time |
| 16:56.18 | nevcairiel | our naxx10-geared DK did 4k on naxx25 patchy |
| 16:56.19 | quiescens | lol |
| 16:56.25 | Grum | i know i do ~4.3k dps as my spriest |
| 16:56.28 | nevcairiel | using DW build |
| 16:56.46 | nevcairiel | dont have any numbers from our 2H blood DK |
| 16:56.59 | Megalon | geared from 25man raids he can scratch 5k :c |
| 16:57.02 | cubicool | I've yet to see any class or player pull 4k DPS. :/ |
| 16:57.05 | steev | i put about that much out on him as unholy |
| 16:57.16 | cubicool | I've seen a Fury Warrior push 3300. |
| 16:57.19 | Grum | cubicool: our mages do 5.8k dps on patchwerk o.O |
| 16:57.27 | steev | but im missing good rings, chest and 1 more trinket |
| 16:57.36 | Grum | i'm just leveling my DK |
| 16:57.37 | steev | assuming im using my destroyer and unholy specced |
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| 16:58.31 | Grum | tbh if you are called a dps class and do less than 3k dps on patchwork something is wrong :) |
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| 16:59.19 | quiescens | for the most part assuming equal skill and fairly equivalent gear it will depend on the player more so than the class |
| 16:59.40 | quiescens | dps levels are fairly similar |
| 16:59.50 | quiescens | or at least |
| 17:00.10 | quiescens | they don't vary as dramatically as they used to between different specs |
| 17:00.18 | quiescens | or different dps classes |
| 17:00.30 | Megalon | which is actually quite a nice thing |
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| 17:00.46 | SunTsu | Grum: Expect a DP to do as much dps as any given class can do, providing they are on the same equipment level and the players are evenly skilled |
| 17:00.50 | quiescens | I've seen pretty much any class top the "meters" as it were |
| 17:01.00 | SunTsu | s/DP/DK/ |
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| 17:01.11 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1329 RecipeDB (9 files in 1 directory): |
| 17:01.13 | Repo | Added placeholders for new recipes announced with 3.0.8... why doesn't wowhead have the data for them yet? BAD WOWHEAD BAD |
| 17:01.25 | quiescens | and I've also seen lots of people claim their class is broken |
| 17:01.29 | quiescens | because they can't do high dps |
| 17:01.33 | Pneumatus | heh, so you moan the hell out of wowhead for being full of beta data |
| 17:01.38 | quiescens | and then go and get doubled by someone playing the same class and spec |
| 17:01.38 | Pneumatus | and then qq that they dont have new stuff :P |
| 17:02.02 | AckisWork | Pneumatus: I'll bitch about EVERYTHING |
| 17:02.04 | AckisWork | ahahahha |
| 17:02.16 | Fisker- | Son of a motherless ogre emote |
| 17:02.17 | Fisker- | giev protip |
| 17:02.19 | Fisker- | how to? |
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| 17:02.36 | Megalon | /fisker |
| 17:02.45 | AckisWork | so of the 4 cooking recipes in the game, they've removed 2 completely, added 1, so we net lose 1 total |
| 17:02.47 | quiescens | /insult fisker- |
| 17:02.57 | Pneumatus | did someone say earlier that toughness is being changed to percentages rather than fixed hp gains? |
| 17:03.08 | Obelixprime | I thought its getting changed to +stam? |
| 17:03.14 | quiescens | ^ |
| 17:03.21 | Hirsute | 4 cooking recipes, what? |
| 17:03.27 | Pneumatus | source? |
| 17:03.32 | Megalon | mining perk? gets changed from 500hp to 50sta i think |
| 17:03.35 | AckisWork | Bibi`: why doesn't mmo-champ have the info about where to get hte new recipe stuffz? ;) |
| 17:04.04 | Obelixprime | AckisWork: I swear I saw it in the 3.0.8 new patch notes they linked |
| 17:04.07 | Obelixprime | under cooking? |
| 17:04.07 | Pneumatus | 50sta means it scales with talents and bok etc doesnt it? |
| 17:04.11 | steev | Pneumatus: yes |
| 17:04.29 | steev | which is why i needs to finish leveling my minings |
| 17:04.29 | AckisWork | Obelixprime: huh? |
| 17:04.39 | SunTsu | Pneumatus: Yeah, it's getting changed to +stam resulting in the same amount of hp gain. |
| 17:04.40 | Obelixprime | Let me dig up the link |
| 17:04.43 | steev | well, that and so i can finally start making some monies |
| 17:04.59 | steev | SunTsu: except that it scales with buffs and talents now, whereas previously it did not |
| 17:05.02 | Obelixprime | warning |
| 17:05.04 | Obelixprime | incoming spam |
| 17:05.09 | quiescens | runs. |
| 17:05.16 | Obelixprime | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.22 | Obelixprime | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.27 | Obelixprime | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.27 | SunTsu | Toughness rank 3 already gave +stam, just the amount +stam it was supposed to give as hp ;) |
| 17:05.30 | Obelixprime | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.33 | Obelixprime | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/13/7536073945-ptr-patch-308-notes.html |
| 17:05.34 | quiescens | incredible fish feast! |
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| 17:05.39 | SunTsu | steev: Yeah, I was talking about basic values |
| 17:06.00 | AckisWork | Obelixprime: yah those are what I was talking aboot |
| 17:06.00 | onaforeignshore | does anyone know if there is a library similar to Roster-2.1 that doesn't require a framework? |
| 17:06.32 | steev | one of these days i shall get all my addons updated |
| 17:06.34 | ckknight | Aiiane: ping |
| 17:06.45 | Obelixprime | I'd assume that fish feast and worg tartar would be sold by the cooking recipe vendor |
| 17:06.49 | steev | which would be really nice, im tired of hearing cartographer bitch when i go into vault |
| 17:06.50 | ckknight | Aiiane: thoughts on replacing the 403 Forbidden page with http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/funny-pictures-cat-denies-access-to-your-computer.jpg ? |
| 17:06.56 | Obelixprime | as for kungaloosh, shrug, in the sewers? |
| 17:07.00 | SunTsu | steev: BTW. I didn't have too much time to tank heroics, but your specc is not forgotten ;) |
| 17:07.02 | steev | and seeing UNKNOWN VEHICLE ARENA1 in tooltips |
| 17:07.04 | nevcairiel | lol ckknight |
| 17:07.07 | steev | SunTsu: oh - i've used it |
| 17:07.25 | ckknight | @ticket curseforge 1030 <-- need to fix |
| 17:07.25 | AckisWork | Obelixprime: there's a lot more added... shield reinforncement for example, no info on that one |
| 17:07.26 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1030 - Site maintenance announcements to be accompanied by lolcats. Reported by: Aiiane. Type: Task. Updated: 6 hours ago. Component: Admin. Status: Accepted. Priority: Critical. Assignee: ckknight. Votes: +9. Comments: 0 |
| 17:07.44 | steev | i tanked 10 man arch, was a tank on patchwerk, and i've tanked heroic vh, an, drak'tharon keep, uk and up |
| 17:07.53 | Obelixprime | AckisWork: Bwah? |
| 17:08.08 | steev | don't seem to have any threat issues - but i did make some small changes |
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| 17:08.19 | AckisWork | Obelixprime: yah :P lots of new recipes, 2 new enchnats, 1 inscription, 1 JC, 1 bS, etc |
| 17:08.28 | steev | i moved some points to reduce the cooldown of DnD |
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| 17:09.00 | steev | SunTsu: oh - and that spec is awesome in pvp sometimes too |
| 17:09.11 | Obelixprime | AckisWork: where's that info from? |
| 17:09.17 | cubicool | Another quick question: I used tekticles to change the global default font, but I have to change the source to change the font to something besides Calibri. Is there a mod that makes this configurable from inside the game? |
| 17:09.21 | steev | specially when you have tons of runic power and run in on the opposing faction trying to down a boss |
| 17:09.29 | SunTsu | steev: I don't do PvP, I hate it since it became a matter of +resil |
| 17:09.38 | AckisWork | Obelixprime: mmo-champ main page today |
| 17:09.56 | steev | SunTsu: ahh, i have almost full set of savage gladiator (i know, terribad blues but whatever, i enjoy pvpng :)) |
| 17:09.59 | Hirsute | *snicker tekticles* |
| 17:10.16 | Hirsute | what a great name |
| 17:10.20 | cubicool | Don't hate on tekticles! :) It's been great to me! :) |
| 17:10.33 | Hirsute | No, I really totally love the name |
| 17:10.58 | Obelixprime | ? |
| 17:11.00 | Obelixprime | I'm confuzzled |
| 17:11.01 | steev | so is it like onefont or whatever tis called? |
| 17:11.06 | onaforeignshore | cubicool: you can also copy the font 4 times and rename the files to the 4 calibri files and paste over them ;p |
| 17:11.06 | Obelixprime | do you mean the other recipes? |
| 17:11.10 | Obelixprime | or just the cooking one |
| 17:11.29 | cubicool | onaforeignshore: truth |
| 17:12.31 | cubicool | I guess adding a UI to it could be a good exercise in mod hacking |
| 17:12.56 | onaforeignshore | cubicool: or you can rewrite ClearFont2 to work with WotLK - it's what tekticles was based on and allowed you to choose font |
| 17:13.03 | Bruners | is there another name for WPA-PSK ? |
| 17:13.22 | cubicool | Bruners: Not that I'm aware of |
| 17:13.26 | steev | Darkmoon Card: Greatness or Darkmoon Card: Death post 3.0.8 ? |
| 17:13.55 | steev | 90 str or 85 crit strike rating |
| 17:14.10 | Repo | 10action-combat: 03simlan * r74 / (4 files in 1 directory): Added "Rune Strike" reactive for DK |
| 17:14.11 | Bruners | Vista is not showing wpa-psk :S |
| 17:14.25 | cubicool | Bruners: does your hardware support it? |
| 17:14.32 | steev | Bruners: what cubicool said |
| 17:14.47 | steev | Windows seems to just call it "WPA or WPA2" |
| 17:14.49 | Megalon | steev: are you a melee? |
| 17:14.53 | steev | i've never seen it differentiate |
| 17:14.58 | steev | Megalon: yes |
| 17:15.12 | Bruners | it should support it, iirc i have connected to this network before |
| 17:15.18 | Megalon | and you really ask if any trinket ingame is better than DMC:Greatness? :D |
| 17:15.25 | steev | Megalon: yes... |
| 17:15.43 | Megalon | no, there is not any better trinket from a pve perspective |
| 17:15.46 | steev | my attack power is already at almost 4k (not when dual wield spec) |
| 17:16.00 | steev | i'd like to get crit to about 35% unbuffed |
| 17:16.05 | steev | i sit around 32 or so |
| 17:16.20 | steev | Megalon: except that dk spell crits do double damage... |
| 17:16.27 | steev | which depends on crit rating |
| 17:16.38 | Repo | 10action-combat: 03simlan 040.92-beta * r75 : Tagging as 0.92-beta |
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| 17:17.10 | Megalon | death coil uses spellcrit and what else? |
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| 17:17.50 | thul | hmm, people have 35% crit and 4k ap unbuffed? :-P class? |
| 17:18.26 | sacarasc | priest |
| 17:18.58 | Megalon | but only with oldschool inner fire! |
| 17:19.11 | steev | don't knock teh innar fire |
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| 17:23.25 | SunTsu | Yay for shorter Transmute: Titanium cd |
| 17:23.59 | SunTsu | and much more yay for even shorter Northrend Alchemy Research |
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| 17:25.51 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r126 / (2 files in 2 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 17:25.53 | Repo | - Removed dependence on Deformat-2.0 by Glory-3.0 |
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| 17:26.48 | thul | i would love 4k ap and 35% crit on both my rogue and my dk |
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| 17:29.39 | Pneumatus | hmm i wish loggerhead would differentiate between 10man and 25man |
| 17:29.53 | harl | healing potions should have a stack size of 200 |
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| 17:31.49 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/downtime-again/ |
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| 17:33.18 | Repo | 10broker_battlegroundfu: 03LordFarlander * r4 / (3 files in 1 directory): Broker_BattlegroundFu |
| 17:33.21 | Repo | - Glory-3.0 no longer needs Deformat-2.0, removed it from the embeds |
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| 17:40.04 | AckisWork | ~wowspell 12260 |
| 17:40.05 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=12260 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=12260 |
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| 17:41.18 | cubicool | ~seen tekkub |
| 17:41.20 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 8h 58m 35s ago, saying: '*boggle*'. |
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| 17:45.52 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r127 / (2 files in 2 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 17:45.54 | Repo | - Glory-3.0 no longer depends on Ace3 |
| 17:45.57 | Repo | - LearnSpell-4.0: Removed pre wow 3.0 check |
| 17:46.55 | Xinhuan | wtf LearnSpell-4.0? |
| 17:47.32 | nevcairiel | its a special-events-kinda-thing |
| 17:48.03 | Xinhuan | "We're transferring the DB back to the real DB server, which has been upgraded to a newer OS as well as 64-bit, so we can finally use 8 GiB of RAM instead of just 2 GiB. " |
| 17:48.05 | nevcairiel | but he prefixed all of his weird libs with LibLordFarlander now =P |
| 17:48.06 | Xinhuan | lol 2 gb |
| 17:48.29 | durcyn | it was forcibly renamed to liblordfarlander after he tried to call it 'libhelper' |
| 17:48.41 | durcyn | because really, everyone should have their own bullshit library |
| 17:48.47 | nevcairiel | i do |
| 17:48.50 | nevcairiel | i call it Ace3 |
| 17:48.50 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 17:48.55 | Grum | omg |
| 17:49.05 | nevcairiel | and everyone of you use it, zomg! |
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| 17:51.47 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: hahaha |
| 17:51.59 | [Ammo] | yeah I forced him into liblordfarlander and he didnt mind I think |
| 17:54.00 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r128 LibLordFarlander-Glory-3.0/LibLordFarlander-Glory-3.0.lua: LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 17:54.02 | Repo | - Really removed AceEvent from Glory-3.0 |
| 17:55.14 | Torhal | twitches. |
| 17:55.25 | Torhal | I think I'd shoot myself if I ever made a LibTorhal |
| 17:55.36 | Torhal | Repeatedly. |
| 17:56.25 | pastamancer | AlarLib! |
| 17:56.31 | Torhal | Heh |
| 17:56.35 | durcyn | you wouldn't have to kill yourself, we'd do it for you |
| 17:56.50 | Torhal | I thought that was WrapEverythingInAFunctionCallLib |
| 17:57.04 | Torhal | durcyn: Thank you. |
| 17:57.06 | Torhal | Heh |
| 17:57.14 | pastamancer | I've just been slowly eating old libraries and making them grid-specific as I incorporate them |
| 17:57.49 | AckisWork | ~wowspell 27958 |
| 17:57.50 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=27958 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=27958 |
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| 18:01.35 | Repo | 10skinner: 03Jncl 07master * b1.9183.21-1-gc91f910 AddonSkins/TradeTabs.lua: [+1 commit] Skinner: Updated TradeTabs skin |
| 18:01.59 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1330 / (9 files in 3 directories): All bs and alch recipes now have acquire info in them. |
| 18:02.03 | durcyn | he really did it that time, guys, go update your liblordfarlander again |
| 18:02.07 | Repo | 10skinner: 03Jncl 04b1.9183.22 * dc2f5b0 /: [new tag] Tagging as b1.9183.22 |
| 18:02.40 | Torhal | Heh |
| 18:03.11 | ZealotOnAStick | does anyone other than him use that thing? |
| 18:03.35 | ZealotOnAStick | does anyone actually use his like dozen addons that all do things other addons do? |
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| 18:04.48 | Torhal | I have to assume that the answer is "yes", because there really are that many sheep out there. |
| 18:04.49 | AckisWork | ~wowspell 3939 |
| 18:04.49 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=3939 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=3939 |
| 18:05.00 | AckisWork | ZealotOnAStick: I use one of his I think :( |
| 18:05.07 | AckisWork | and warcraftpets advertises another one of his |
| 18:05.09 | Torhal | AckisWork: ZOMG! |
| 18:05.26 | durcyn | warcraftpets is certainly an authority on the subject. |
| 18:05.30 | Torhal | Hah |
| 18:05.48 | Hirsute | Who are we talking about, now? |
| 18:06.14 | AckisWork | durcyn: when they advertise his mini-pet addon then yes they are :P |
| 18:06.19 | durcyn | Hirsute: general condescension and disdain for targets of opportunity at the moment ;) |
| 18:06.41 | durcyn | AckisWork: isn't Kennel vastly superior in every conceivable way? |
| 18:07.02 | Hirsute | durcyn: I see. |
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| 18:07.14 | Hirsute | Kennel superior to which? |
| 18:07.16 | AckisWork | durcyn: no clue don't use em |
| 18:08.58 | Torhal | Kennel "just works" and is roughly five times smaller (filesize, though probbaly the same memory-wise) |
| 18:09.58 | ZealotOnAStick | I've considered using some minipet and mount addons . . . |
| 18:10.14 | Torhal | I recommend Squire for mounts. |
| 18:10.19 | ZealotOnAStick | but then I realized that there are like, 2 mounts, that I ever really bother to use, despite having like 36 or something. |
| 18:10.34 | Torhal | Heh |
| 18:10.45 | ZealotOnAStick | and I've got over 50 pets, but I rarely bother to even have them out. |
| 18:10.54 | Hirsute | I use Mounted and Critters, have been pretty happy with them. |
| 18:11.13 | Xinhuan | i don't use any, 0 memory use, BAM |
| 18:11.15 | Xinhuan | i win |
| 18:11.22 | Torhal | I never bothered with pets. Installed Kennel and they're just there. |
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| 18:12.17 | ZealotOnAStick | ^ Xinhuan |
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| 18:12.51 | ZealotOnAStick | Now, I wish whatsisface would get around to finishing DemonDaemon, or at least change whatever's weird in it so it'll anchor properly for me. |
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| 18:18.14 | pentium166 | have they said anywhere that [flyable] is being fixed? |
| 18:20.18 | nevcairiel | whats broken with it? |
| 18:20.31 | Hirsute | pentium166: They don't consider it broken |
| 18:20.44 | durcyn | it doesn't return correctly in noflyable areas, it breaks with vehicle mounts, i.e. carpets.. |
| 18:20.45 | pentium166 | it doesn't do what people were actually using it for in northrend |
| 18:21.00 | nevcairiel | it only fails in dalaran and wintergrasp |
| 18:21.04 | durcyn | it's just wintergrasp and dalaran, though, who ever would want to mount there? |
| 18:21.19 | nevcairiel | and vehicle mounts will be fixed in 3.1, i heard |
| 18:21.27 | nevcairiel | becoming non-vehicle mounts |
| 18:21.32 | durcyn | they're just being turned into normal mounts, which doesn't affect flyable |
| 18:21.46 | Hirsute | As blizz sees it, [flyable] is supposed to return true if the zone allows flying. Most of the qq I've seen is about it returning true if the player doens't have cold weather flying. |
| 18:21.48 | durcyn | basically no-fly-zone was the dumbest thing they ever did and if you don't hate them for it, you're probably on medication |
| 18:21.50 | pentium166 | it's nice to be able to push your mount button and ride across dalaran on your horse or whatever |
| 18:22.07 | nevcairiel | durcyn: i can understand disallowing flying in dalaran |
| 18:22.35 | nevcairiel | the town would lose alot of its feeling if you just fly around it |
| 18:22.54 | nevcairiel | i hate them for the WG noflyzone |
| 18:23.01 | pentium166 | i hated that so much. |
| 18:23.03 | nevcairiel | cant get a decent path to Sholazar |
| 18:23.17 | pentium166 | i was looking forward to being able to bear-bomb people |
| 18:23.25 | durcyn | i don't care about feeling, i care about a function that's supposed to return a value based on a condition and doesn't |
| 18:23.27 | pentium166 | on my pve server :( |
| 18:23.51 | durcyn | if they're so gorram hot on the no-fly-zone, they damn well should have updated IsFlyable() to handle it |
| 18:24.13 | Hirsute | So, does flyable return true in noflyzones, then, is that the problem? (can't fly in Northrend yet, haven't tried) |
| 18:24.15 | pastamancer | hmm, how to find the first revision a path existed in a svn repo... |
| 18:24.38 | durcyn | Hirsute: yes, it does. |
| 18:24.44 | Hirsute | Ah-ha. |
| 18:24.46 | pentium166 | yes. if you try to use your old tbc mount macro before you have cold weather flying or in dalaran/wintergrasp, it fails |
| 18:24.54 | nevcairiel | pastamancer: do you know if it was deleted in between, or renamed etc? |
| 18:25.09 | Hirsute | pentium166: Blizz doesn't consider that first part broken, don't know about the no-fly zones, though. |
| 18:25.28 | pastamancer | nevcairiel: I can assume that it hasn't been deleted or renamed |
| 18:25.31 | pentium166 | i don't know why they wouldn't for the first |
| 18:25.53 | nevcairiel | pastamancer: do a binary search on revisions =P |
| 18:26.01 | Hirsute | pentium166: I already explained it. flyable is intended to return true if the zone allows flying. It wasn't intended to take the player's abilities into consideration. |
| 18:26.07 | pentium166 | yay forum maintenance |
| 18:26.14 | Hirsute | Thus, except for the no fly zones, it works exactly as they intended it to. |
| 18:26.28 | Gnarfoz | CWF is not the issue |
| 18:26.34 | pastamancer | nevcairiel: eww, I need something that'll actually perform reasonably well... I guess I could grab the first revision out of the changelog for that path |
| 18:26.42 | Hirsute | Gnarfoz: Aye, I've come to that realization just now. |
| 18:26.48 | nevcairiel | How do vehicle mounts "bug" with IsFlyable()? |
| 18:26.55 | Hirsute | though pentium is considering it a problem. |
| 18:27.01 | nevcairiel | I mean, it shouldnt care wtf the player is doing right now |
| 18:27.27 | Gnarfoz | that part is an inconvenience for about 7 levels... the no-fly zone shit is gonna be with us for the next 2 years :p |
| 18:27.28 | pentium166 | It wasn't a huge problem because you could just change your macro until you got CWF |
| 18:27.49 | pentium166 | but still, people don't really care whether the zone is flyable or not, or at least I didn't |
| 18:27.49 | Gnarfoz | and Shadowed already wrote an addon that works around it, which mostly works |
| 18:27.55 | pentium166 | I cared whether I could fly |
| 18:28.08 | Hirsute | I personally gave up on the macro because there was no way to get a macro to handle all my mounts, now. Went to using an addon. |
| 18:28.35 | pentium166 | Which addon is that? I'm using... smartmount I think. It mostly works except for the sewer exit in Dalaran |
| 18:28.40 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I dunno how it would be hard to update IsFlyable()/[flyable] for no-fly zones... can't be hard |
| 18:28.41 | Hirsute | I use Mounted |
| 18:28.50 | Gnarfoz | DamnMounts |
| 18:28.56 | Gnarfoz | that just switches macros around |
| 18:28.57 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 18:29.03 | nevcairiel | I use a land mount and my flying form .. 2 diff buttons |
| 18:29.03 | Hirsute | I can't fly in Northrend yet, so I don't know if it handles NFZs correctly. |
| 18:29.07 | nevcairiel | shrugs |
| 18:29.07 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 18:29.16 | Gnarfoz | when you're inside a known no-fly zone... land mound macro in, when not, flyable macro in ^^ |
| 18:29.23 | Fisker- | http://www.bfgtech.com/CMImages/BFGTech/9800GTland.jpg <-ahahha wtf |
| 18:29.55 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: what. except that it's a shit card ^^ |
| 18:30.00 | winkiller | productivity |
| 18:30.02 | winkiller | excel in 3d! |
| 18:30.03 | pentium166 | are you amused by a gaming graphics card increasing productivity or what |
| 18:30.26 | winkiller | well, it could if you're earning gold woth dailies |
| 18:30.31 | winkiller | more fps -> smoother |
| 18:30.37 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:30.49 | Fisker- | good point winkiller :D |
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| 18:34.43 | winkiller | for anyone interested: http://codeschmie.de/archives/276-Automated-Armory-Access-Tutorial.html |
| 18:34.49 | Fisker- | throws a grenade after nevcairiel |
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| 18:36.33 | Funkeh` | rat loves cat |
| 18:38.36 | ZealotOnAStick | I want something other than 2 for-pay encoders to use GPU acceleration for video encoding/transcoding. |
| 18:39.22 | nevcairiel | hands a C compiler to ZealotOnAStick |
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| 18:39.45 | Jygga | A special UI for chatting with GMs has been added. <- what? Oo |
| 18:39.48 | ckknight | -funroll-loops |
| 18:39.48 | nevcairiel | Nvidia has this toolkit to use CUDA |
| 18:39.50 | nevcairiel | you'll manage |
| 18:40.23 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm hobbling along on slowly picking up .net for my new job, I'm not about to go rewrite x.264 for CUDA. |
| 18:40.24 | ckknight | Jygga: yea, separate chat window, now it'll be near-impossible to fake being a GM |
| 18:40.35 | Jygga | damn! :P |
| 18:40.49 | nevcairiel | ZealotOnAStick: just get a "internet version" of CoreAVC then |
| 18:41.25 | ZealotOnAStick | hmm, does it have GPU assisted encoding now? |
| 18:41.56 | nevcairiel | It might only be a decoder |
| 18:41.57 | nevcairiel | shrug |
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| 18:42.17 | ZealotOnAStick | ahh. decoding I don't care about. |
| 18:42.49 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1331 / (7 files in 3 directories): |
| 18:42.51 | Repo | Fixed a BS acquire location, added remaining missing engineering acquires and fixed a few gnomish/goblin engineering acquires by adding the third trainer to the list |
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| 18:43.28 | ZealotOnAStick | One of the reasons I stopped doing raid boss movies is because it took like 14 hours to encode an 8 minute movie at HD res on the computers available to me. |
| 18:43.47 | Fisker- | ZealotOnAStick what encoders use GPU acceleration? |
| 18:43.56 | Fisker- | 14 hours? |
| 18:43.57 | Fisker- | damn |
| 18:44.15 | Fisker- | Takes less than an hour to do a multipass here |
| 18:44.17 | Fisker- | CPU only |
| 18:44.29 | Grum | just get better cpus |
| 18:44.40 | pentium166 | just! |
| 18:44.49 | Grum | as if it is so expensive |
| 18:44.50 | Fisker- | moo: cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz 1 processor(s) at 2667MHz (10% Load) |
| 18:44.54 | Fisker- | ^^ never gets old of course |
| 18:45.00 | ZealotOnAStick | I was doing like 1600x1050 encodes in 2-pass x.264 |
| 18:45.05 | Repo | 10prat_signon: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.2.4a-1-gf0133f9 / (4 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Add ruRU localisations. Thanks zuz666! |
| 18:45.25 | ZealotOnAStick | ati has some relatively crappy one for free built into their recent drivers . . . |
| 18:45.27 | Fisker- | i do mine in WMV! |
| 18:45.41 | Fisker- | Moar like Win Media amirite+ |
| 18:45.42 | nevcairiel | ZealotOnAStick: from what i heard, CUDA isnt as optimal for x264 encoding, because it requires full 64-bit floating point, which CUDA is somewhat slow at |
| 18:45.43 | ZealotOnAStick | and there's Badaboom or something like that, which is a pay product, for nVidia |
| 18:46.21 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd also tried xvid, which would probably be acceptable, but I liked the quality I got for comparable amounts of time from x.264 |
| 18:46.24 | Grum | iew ... WMV is not encoding; its just dripping it in poop and removing half the data .. anyhow even Fisker- 'fancy' cpu costs only 253,47 EUR |
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| 18:46.47 | Grum | ZealotOnAStick:yes auch ..x264 is painful to encode |
| 18:46.49 | Fisker- | divx is shit |
| 18:46.53 | Grum | also painful to playback |
| 18:47.02 | pentium166 | depending on what motherboard you have it could mean replacing a bunch of other stuff though |
| 18:47.02 | Fisker- | and i dunno how to shot x264 |
| 18:47.04 | nevcairiel | TMPGEnc supports CUDA 2.0 (only 9800 series nvidia cards, afaik) |
| 18:47.05 | ZealotOnAStick | Grum: "fancy" cpu may only cost XX money, but for me to upgrade, I'd have to also replace motherboard AND ram. |
| 18:47.21 | Grum | ZealotOnAStick: so you add another 200 euro :) |
| 18:47.22 | Fisker- | nevcairiel not on encoding |
| 18:47.25 | Grum | still <500 ;) |
| 18:47.31 | nevcairiel | TMPGEnc is a pure encoding tool :P |
| 18:47.51 | Fisker- | It's an editing tool as well |
| 18:47.57 | Fisker- | And that's what CUDA is used for |
| 18:48.02 | Fisker- | applying various effects and filters |
| 18:48.06 | Fisker- | nothing else |
| 18:48.45 | ZealotOnAStick | It'd be more than that, I won't buy a motherboard that's got significantly lesser features than my current one. |
| 18:48.59 | ZealotOnAStick | and you don't get $100 SLI RAID mobos. |
| 18:49.12 | Fisker- | SLI RAID? |
| 18:49.17 | ZealotOnAStick | the RAM is stupid cheap though. |
| 18:49.23 | durcyn | who the hell uses onboard fakeraid for anything meaningful |
| 18:49.24 | ZealotOnAStick | SLI, RAID |
| 18:49.26 | Fisker- | Redudant array of independant scalable link interfaces? :DDD |
| 18:49.31 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 18:49.48 | sb | WTF is this brunnhildar axe shammy thing :o |
| 18:50.28 | ZealotOnAStick | I've got an ASUS A8N32-SLI. Dual ethernet, dual X16 SLI, RAID. Damn good mobo. |
| 18:50.30 | durcyn | sb: the frost proc and flametongue interact in interesting ways, i.e. they trigger eachother multiple times per swing |
| 18:50.45 | sb | yup... |
| 18:51.24 | Fisker- | hah ZealotOnAStick |
| 18:51.35 | Fisker- | P6T6-Revolution got Triple x16 SLI |
| 18:51.39 | Fisker- | and all your other shit as well |
| 18:51.41 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 18:51.49 | ZealotOnAStick | for how much, is the question? |
| 18:51.58 | Fisker- | google it :3 |
| 18:52.07 | Fisker- | "[19:47:29] <ZealotOnAStick> It'd be more than that, I won't buy a motherboard that's got significantly lesser features than my current one." |
| 18:52.11 | ZealotOnAStick | not going to bother. I can't afford it right now. |
| 18:52.13 | Fisker- | wrumm wrumm |
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| 18:52.17 | nevcairiel | ~300 here, so probably 300-400 USD |
| 18:52.46 | ZealotOnAStick | It'll be My guess is 6 months+ before I can look at upgrading my desktop gaming rig. |
| 18:53.03 | ZealotOnAStick | My blasted laptop has a better proc for WoW than my desktop. :/ |
| 18:53.15 | nevcairiel | Is it just me, or does that P6T6 not have a "normal" PCI slot anymore? =P |
| 18:53.29 | ZealotOnAStick | So, maybe in 6+ months, CoreI7 will be less painful. |
| 18:53.31 | Xinhuan | you mean there are "abnormal" PCI slots? |
| 18:53.32 | nevcairiel | it has like 6 PCIe 16x |
| 18:53.52 | nevcairiel | (3 full 16x, 2 8x, 1 4x) |
| 18:54.18 | nevcairiel | X58 chipset is crazy for providing that many PCIe lanes <.< |
| 18:54.39 | Fisker- | Combo actually |
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| 18:54.57 | Fisker- | Uses 2 chipsets :3 |
| 18:54.58 | Gnarfoz | fuck PCI |
| 18:55.10 | Fisker- | agrees with Gnarfoz then ejaculates all over him |
| 18:55.12 | Gnarfoz | also, P6T6 is not the only mobo that could replace a A8N32-SLI ;P |
| 18:56.38 | cubicool | really, who can ejaculate on demand like that |
| 18:56.53 | ZealotOnAStick | pro porno stars. |
| 18:57.13 | cubicool | Ejaculate has like a 10 minutes cast time and 24hr CD |
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| 18:57.27 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:57.35 | nevcairiel | CD increases with age, eh? |
| 18:57.43 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03vangual 06vangual 07master * a152678 / (60 files in 32 directories): [+30 commits] (26 truncated) |
| 18:57.45 | Repo | a152678: pbtt: Configuration restructuring |
| 18:57.46 | nevcairiel | or rather, level =P |
| 18:57.48 | Repo | 86b0e5c: Merge branch 'master' of git://git.wowace.com/wow/pitbull4/mainline.git |
| 18:57.50 | Repo | c8262cf: - pbtt: Add Localization to TotemTimers Module |
| 18:57.53 | Repo | 8a0ea35: handle enabling and disabling of headers properly. Handle enabling/disabling of classifications in config mode properly. |
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| 19:04.07 | cubicool | A long time ago I remember there being some small example docs for Ace3; are those no longer included in the zip release? |
| 19:04.21 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1332 / (5 files in 3 directories): |
| 19:04.23 | Repo | Add missing acquire for tailoring, now just LW and JC to do... 39 recipes only. |
| 19:04.46 | Torhal | cubicool: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ace3/pages/ |
| 19:05.03 | cubicool | zomg woot |
| 19:05.14 | nevcairiel | the api docs on that page are rather incomplete |
| 19:05.24 | nevcairiel | because the documentation tool expects a different format then we sued |
| 19:05.26 | nevcairiel | *used |
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| 19:05.55 | cubicool | I'm mostly looking for a simple AceGUI example. |
| 19:06.16 | cubicool | Wondering if it's easier to use AceGUI or just build the UI outright using default WOW API |
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| 19:14.51 | Funkeh` | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7ikm3o5hDks |
| 19:14.54 | Funkeh` | rat loves cat |
| 19:18.53 | Funkeh` | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fzzjgBAaWZw&NR=1 |
| 19:18.56 | Funkeh` | stalking cat! |
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| 19:24.32 | Funkeh` | Wii cat! |
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| 19:35.42 | thul | hemo, mutilate or combat swords for leveling 70-80? |
| 19:35.59 | ckknight | hey all, site's down |
| 19:36.03 | ckknight | lolcat is up |
| 19:36.27 | Zhinjio | hey ck |
| 19:36.29 | Zhinjio | g'morning |
| 19:36.39 | sztanpet | aw |
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| 19:37.12 | ckknight | hey Zhinjio |
| 19:37.16 | viisual | combat swords I think. I could be wrong, mutilate is a lot of damage now as well. |
| 19:38.18 | Kaelten | so, if any of you have, when you watched the spirit did every girl in the theater go 'awww' whenever they showed the cats |
| 19:38.50 | thul | and mutilate is not positioning required anymore |
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| 19:40.39 | Gnarfoz | oh, but it is... |
| 19:40.55 | Gnarfoz | because it's not spec dependant to get behind the fucking mob ^^ |
| 19:41.20 | sb | what? the spirit did every girl in the theater? |
| 19:41.23 | winkiller | thul: all fine |
| 19:41.32 | Repo | 10auto-invite: 03idefix6 * r32 autoInvite.lua: |
| 19:41.33 | Gnarfoz | anyway, Mut owns Combat in terms of single target dps; Mut is also way more complex than combat swords |
| 19:41.34 | Repo | Fixed bug: Right click on the death knight displayed the context menu on a wrong position. |
| 19:41.57 | winkiller | I hate to level with combat |
| 19:42.03 | winkiller | it's boring and I suck at it :P |
| 19:42.35 | thul | i guess i could try mutilate, to have some big numbers and fun |
| 19:42.41 | thul | but then i lose out on shadowstep.. |
| 19:42.55 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r129 / (5 files in 2 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 19:42.57 | Repo | - Glory-3.0: Realm data is now in a separate file that has a script to mine it from the web |
| 19:44.34 | Xinhuan | wtf? |
| 19:44.41 | Kaelten | hrm? |
| 19:44.44 | Xinhuan | why does it need realm data |
| 19:44.45 | ckknight | instead of a lolcat, we should've rickrolled wowace |
| 19:44.57 | ckknight | Xinhuan: battlegroups |
| 19:44.59 | Kaelten | ckknight: maybe next time |
| 19:45.12 | ckknight | maybe |
| 19:45.15 | Xinhuan | how is battlegroups important |
| 19:45.23 | Xinhuan | or necessary |
| 19:45.24 | ckknight | because, Xinhuan |
| 19:45.35 | Kaelten | for those who give a fuck? |
| 19:45.38 | Kaelten | which is not me |
| 19:45.50 | Xinhuan | isn't glory originally just a lib to calc honor gains |
| 19:45.54 | Xinhuan | and arena point formula? |
| 19:46.11 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: wondering if you saw my suggestion last night |
| 19:46.13 | Kaelten | no clue |
| 19:46.16 | Xinhuan | i did Zhinjio |
| 19:47.00 | Xinhuan | but your suggestion isn't perfect, as only the first person in the raid gets to see every addon message |
| 19:47.02 | Zhinjio | didn't mean to interrupt your conversation. Just wondering if that changed your thoughts at all |
| 19:47.29 | Zhinjio | raid leader should be the person doing the invites anyway, at least in theory |
| 19:47.37 | Zhinjio | but yes, thats a good point |
| 19:48.24 | cubicool | Does the WOW API let us use textures as alpha mask? |
| 19:48.30 | cubicool | Er, masks. |
| 19:48.30 | Xinhuan | no |
| 19:48.46 | cubicool | Is there a way to simulate it somehow or get a similar effect? |
| 19:48.50 | Xinhuan | no |
| 19:49.03 | nevcairiel | build a texture with said mask in photoshop |
| 19:49.20 | Xinhuan | and that would not be a mask basically |
| 19:49.35 | Xinhuan | but just a image that is already pre-masked |
| 19:49.49 | nevcairiel | well its a similar effect |
| 19:49.51 | nevcairiel | what he asked :) |
| 19:49.57 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=7536294020&sid=1#1 <-i lol'd |
| 19:51.18 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 19:51.44 | cubicool | Xinhuan: So I basically need 2 images then; a grayscale image representing the "unfilled" area (for a progress meter, for example) and another "fully filled" texture to paint over it? |
| 19:51.50 | nevcairiel | i was annoyed by that, too. |
| 19:52.08 | Xinhuan | cubicool: yes |
| 19:52.10 | cubicool | Xinhuan: The API does expose the texture coordinate, right? I can set them manually? |
| 19:52.15 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 19:52.16 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 19:52.19 | nevcairiel | SetTexCoord |
| 19:52.31 | nevcairiel | although its percentage, not real coords |
| 19:52.36 | nevcairiel | 0..1 is full image |
| 19:52.41 | ckknight | cubicool: what's your progress meter look like? |
| 19:52.42 | nevcairiel | use floats for in between |
| 19:52.44 | ckknight | a bar or a pie? |
| 19:53.00 | cubicool | ckknight: It's going to be a glyph from a font, actually. :) |
| 19:53.04 | cubicool | ckknight: want a screenshot? |
| 19:53.06 | ckknight | yes |
| 19:53.32 | Gnarfoz | http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=lvtXH9PLzzM |
| 19:56.28 | ckknight | lol, Gnarfoz |
| 19:56.30 | ckknight | that was good |
| 19:58.01 | cubicool | ckknight: http://cubicool.plopbyte.net/progress.png |
| 19:58.16 | cubicool | ckknight: I'm going to fill that from left to right |
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| 19:58.28 | ckknight | hmm |
| 19:58.39 | ckknight | oh, so it will fill up like a bar, then? |
| 19:58.43 | ckknight | that's doable in WoW |
| 19:58.51 | ckknight | you change the width and TexCoord at the same time |
| 19:58.53 | cubicool | Yeah, it's going to be my fun little unit frame. :) |
| 19:59.01 | ckknight | hehe |
| 19:59.02 | ckknight | alright |
| 19:59.04 | cubicool | I have an icon like that for each class |
| 19:59.10 | ckknight | sticks to his bars |
| 19:59.18 | viisual | Cubicool, you could get away with a sphere texture no? |
| 19:59.34 | ckknight | viisual: any texture, really |
| 19:59.45 | ckknight | as long as you fill it up like a bar, no real issue |
| 19:59.56 | viisual | *nods* |
| 19:59.57 | ckknight | can't fill it up like a pie with blizz's api |
| 20:00.16 | ckknight | unless I'm missing something |
| 20:01.04 | nevcairiel | you probably can, just requires a gazillion of texture hacks and rotation with texcoord is icky |
| 20:01.18 | nevcairiel | but possible |
| 20:01.40 | ckknight | figured |
| 20:02.10 | nevcairiel | but combined with the transparency. .. mm |
| 20:02.14 | nevcairiel | might be impossible afterall |
| 20:02.21 | nevcairiel | a solid pie works |
| 20:03.56 | Kuja^ | so the cake is a lie then? :P |
| 20:04.10 | Fisker- | Anyone know if you can still knock people off mounts in 3.08? |
| 20:06.11 | cubicool | nevcairiel: what if I have 2 frams stacked on top of eachother, one is the base, the other is the fill. Then, I resize the topmost and calculate the texcoods based on the size of the top... I know that will work, but you said something about transparency that has me scared now. :) |
| 20:06.19 | cubicool | nevcairiel: I'm at work, so i can't actually test the code I'm writing yet. |
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| 20:09.46 | nevcairiel | if you want to fill it in a bar-fashion, it'll work |
| 20:09.56 | nevcairiel | just pie and transparency will probably be tricky at best |
| 20:10.37 | ckknight | nevcairiel: transparency shouldn't be a big issue if you do it properly |
| 20:10.49 | ckknight | I do independent fg/bg transparency for PitBull's bars |
| 20:10.56 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 20:10.57 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 20:10.58 | nevcairiel | for bars |
| 20:11.03 | ckknight | they're fake bars, just frame with texture and TexCoord fun |
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| 20:11.23 | nevcairiel | rotating textures to fill a pie with the pie not being solid but being a texture with transparent sections |
| 20:11.25 | nevcairiel | == evil |
| 20:11.40 | nevcairiel | since we dont have masks |
| 20:14.36 | Axodious | what happend to eepanels? can't find it on any of the sites |
| 20:14.48 | nevcairiel | kgpanels is the new one |
| 20:14.51 | Zhinjio | relatively dead. |
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| 20:14.54 | Zhinjio | kgpanels ftw |
| 20:14.57 | Axodious | i see |
| 20:15.18 | Gnarfoz | or use eePanels |
| 20:15.21 | Gnarfoz | which should be at... |
| 20:15.24 | Gnarfoz | @project eePanels |
| 20:15.26 | Repo | Gnarfoz: No project found that matches 'eePanels' |
| 20:15.28 | Gnarfoz | @project ee-panels |
| 20:15.30 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ee-panels/. eePanels. Game: WoW. Status: Abandoned. (Automatic) Abandoned since out-of-date for 60 days.. wowaceSVN (Manager/Author). Updated: 100 days ago |
| 20:15.31 | Gnarfoz | damn thing |
| 20:15.36 | Gnarfoz | @project ee-panels-2 |
| 20:15.37 | Repo | Gnarfoz: No project found that matches 'ee-panels-2' |
| 20:15.43 | Gnarfoz | rages |
| 20:15.45 | Axodious | lol |
| 20:15.46 | Gnarfoz | @project ee-panels2 |
| 20:15.48 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ee-panels2/. eePanels2. Game: WoW. Status: Abandoned. (Automatic) Abandoned since out-of-date for 60 days.. Constellation (Manager/Author). Updated: 100 days ago. Tickets: 1/2 |
| 20:15.53 | Gnarfoz | there. |
| 20:16.02 | Gnarfoz | or rather... if you wanted eePanels2 but said eePanels |
| 20:16.06 | Gnarfoz | get kgPanels. |
| 20:16.16 | Axodious | yeah i will when i have some free time to set it up |
| 20:16.18 | Gnarfoz | if you just want some basic background panel shit... eePanels works fine |
| 20:16.29 | nevcairiel | it only adds dashes for capitalization changes, and special chars |
| 20:17.22 | Gnarfoz | it should DIE |
| 20:17.35 | Gnarfoz | actually it already is dead, but it has left its mark ^^ |
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| 20:21.26 | many | mh. EBB shows "Find Minerals", hovering the bar it says "Repair" |
| 20:22.19 | NeoTron | I still use eePanels (original) because I'm too lazy to fix the ones I have |
| 20:22.26 | NeoTron | and mind you I have a total of two panels >:-) |
| 20:22.34 | NeoTron | rectangular, nothing fancy |
| 20:22.41 | Axodious | ive got ~15-20 rectangular ones :( |
| 20:23.18 | Axodious | it's more like ~10-15 but i use 1 as a border then another on top of it |
| 20:24.00 | Gnarfoz | I've got like... one across the bottom and in that one, 1 for left chat, 1 for action bars and 1 for where the combat log was back then (now EavesDrop+Omen+Minimap)... I only use them so it's not straight black :p |
| 20:24.13 | Gnarfoz | (because that part is outside of the viewport) |
| 20:26.40 | Axodious | ok i have 6 >_> (just checked) 3 are a border other 3 the box itself, 1 for chatbox 1 for omen and 1 for editbox |
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| 20:29.34 | vhaarr | anyone here used mages to tank Razuvious? |
| 20:30.09 | Axodious | on 10 man? |
| 20:30.12 | vhaarr | 25 |
| 20:30.25 | Axodious | can you now that they nerfed bone armor? |
| 20:30.31 | durcyn | can't spellsteal it anymore at all |
| 20:30.54 | NeoTron | vhaarr: so I entirely forgot to run the transcriptor in naxx last night. doh |
| 20:31.10 | vhaarr | okay >< |
| 20:31.18 | Gnarfoz | I'll try not to forget on sunday |
| 20:31.41 | NeoTron | I ws trying to get the dkp addon to work (that lets people query their dkp in-game) and got sidetracked I guess |
| 20:33.32 | NeoTron | so.. I take it most guilds don't do heroic 4HM with 5 healers :P |
| 20:34.22 | Axodious | i do |
| 20:34.22 | Gnarfoz | 4 |
| 20:34.40 | viisual | Nah, just 1 mage... wait that's nerfed. |
| 20:35.45 | AckisWork | hi Gnarfoz |
| 20:36.15 | Repo | 10considerater: 03catamorfizm 07master * 0.8beta-1-g7246447 Core.lua: [+1 commit] also deactivate a profile when deleting it. |
| 20:36.39 | Pneumatus | our instance server is so insanely laggy i'm not switching transcriptor on as we're not gonna get a kill |
| 20:38.24 | Axodious | yeah, took us 4 attempts at 4 different times to get thadius down |
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| 20:38.35 | Axodious | kept hitting the enrage because ppl couldnt cast |
| 20:38.44 | NeoTron | just noticed our kill last night is top-100 in WWS |
| 20:38.55 | NeoTron | which considering a significant lack of t7.5 gear in the guild is pretty good |
| 20:39.11 | Axodious | do you lag on your server NeoTron? |
| 20:39.20 | NeoTron | no |
| 20:39.20 | Axodious | like ~3-5s spell cast lag |
| 20:39.22 | Axodious | thats why |
| 20:41.13 | Pneumatus | we cant get past patchwerk atm due to healers being unable to cast enough |
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| 20:41.59 | Axodious | we have so much lag that our tanks arent being hit half as much as they should be |
| 20:41.59 | Axodious | :/ |
| 20:44.22 | Axodious | before the lag settled in we were clearing naxx in ~2 hours now its 4 |
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| 20:53.25 | Axodious | so, how is dr damage comming? i havent used it since wrath came out but would like to |
| 20:54.05 | steev | um |
| 20:54.11 | steev | its compatible? |
| 20:54.26 | Axodious | im seeing its still in beta |
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| 20:55.58 | steev | there are mods that aren't beta? |
| 20:56.22 | Axodious | well, i mean it's still in beta with quite a few rather large issues (in relation to what it does) |
| 20:57.47 | steev | sadly, nothing like trac :( |
| 20:57.53 | steev | at least, not that i can see |
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| 20:59.48 | steev | oh, i see it now |
| 20:59.49 | steev | i r nub |
| 21:00.28 | steev | - More fixes for Frostfire Bolt (removed secondary effect, hopefully fixed the crit calculation issue and the hit bonus from Elemental Precision) |
| 21:00.42 | steev | that was commited 2 days ago |
| 21:01.47 | Axodious | i'm just reading the "current status" part of the project page for it |
| 21:02.20 | Axodious | things that worry me are "some spells dont display" "some spells may display low values after lvl 70" "some talents dont work" |
| 21:02.52 | steev | *shrug* i don't mind not seeing a random amount |
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| 21:36.06 | ckknight | http://www.codesimian.com/openSourceCommunism.jpg |
| 21:40.56 | ag` | I think that's a shop of the if you're downloading music, you're downloading communism or something |
| 21:41.12 | sb | errr lol? |
| 21:41.17 | sb | wim blocks mmo-champion? |
| 21:41.20 | Repo | 10ora2: 03StingerSoft * r647 / (2 files in 2 directories): ruRu update |
| 21:41.46 | sb | errr nevermind - wow blocks mmo-champion???? |
| 21:41.49 | sb | wtf is this |
| 21:44.01 | Repo | 10talented: 03StingerSoft * r359 Locales/ruRU.lua: ruRU update |
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| 21:44.17 | NeoTron | whoha they are making a change I wanted for a long time: "Mining veins and deposits no longer require multiple hits to receive all the ore. Players will receive around the same amount of ore, stone, and gems they would have received from multiple hits." |
| 21:45.06 | Hirsute | *nod* Makes me really happy. |
| 21:45.22 | Hirsute | Far fewer chances for some douche to come ninja ore from me while I'm trying to mine. |
| 21:45.45 | NeoTron | seems like they are making wintergrasp more about breaking through the walls than tryying to channel an orb |
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| 21:46.05 | Dashkal | heh, just means I'll have to be quicker about ganking you when I see you on titanium :p |
| 21:46.06 | Hirsute | Not to mention the general time savings, and loss of frustration at not getting a skillup each time I hit the freaking node. |
| 21:46.12 | Primer | will they make the lag go away? |
| 21:46.17 | NeoTron | heh druid aquatic form quest removed. one of the most epic low level time sinks.. gone |
| 21:46.33 | Hirsute | Dashkal: That's why I don't play on a PvP server. |
| 21:46.45 | Primer | PVP is where it's at! |
| 21:46.46 | Hirsute | NeoTron: I know, that one made me sad. it was kind of a fun, if long, quest. |
| 21:46.52 | Hirsute | <--PvP hater. |
| 21:46.54 | Primer | I honestly don't understand you non-PVP people |
| 21:46.55 | Dashkal | eh, pvp competition for a node is fair game |
| 21:47.16 | Primer | You're content to play against a script, but when there's a human at the other end, it's Bad⢠|
| 21:47.21 | Dashkal | On PvE servers the race pretty much comes down to if one player is a paladin or a DK |
| 21:47.43 | Hirsute | Primer: Pretty much, I'm content to play against a script, but when there's a human on the other end, I'm *dead* |
| 21:47.44 | NeoTron | Primer: you got that all wrong |
| 21:47.54 | NeoTron | I prefer to CHOOSE when I want to play against a script or against a player |
| 21:48.07 | Hirsute | I suck at PvP, I don't enjoy it, I prefer to enjoy my time playing. |
| 21:48.09 | NeoTron | and hate being interrupted when I'm busy |
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| 21:49.56 | NeoTron | noooo! "Glyph of Death Decay has been changed to grant 20% additional damage instead of its current effect." |
| 21:50.11 | NeoTron | well no and yes. it's a nice aoe tanking boost but the CC part of it was so nice |
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| 21:50.13 | Hirsute | What's it's current effect? |
| 21:50.21 | kappaccino | i prefer cooking and fishing |
| 21:50.26 | kappaccino | with a little raiding on the side |
| 21:50.29 | kappaccino | hate me |
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| 21:51.15 | NeoTron | chance to fear the affected mobs for a brief period of time |
| 21:51.22 | Hirsute | Aaah |
| 21:51.31 | NeoTron | from a raid perspective, a very good damage reducer |
| 21:51.36 | NeoTron | when aoe tanking |
| 21:51.58 | kappaccino | if I feel the need to pvp, I fire up steam and go play TF2 |
| 21:52.38 | thul | i can't do any other games than wow online |
| 21:54.14 | viisual | NeoTron, that change sucks I thought it was just going to 10% ;( |
| 21:54.28 | viisual | NeoTron, I liked when our 3DKs stacked it on trash and they were perma feared |
| 21:54.55 | NeoTron | -ok... wtf is up with this |
| 21:54.57 | NeoTron | Ebon Plague: It is no longer possible to have a duration longer than the disease which caused it. It will no longer stack with Crypt Fever used by another character. |
| 21:55.01 | NeoTron | the latter part |
| 21:55.09 | NeoTron | so now you can only have one unholy DK period? |
| 21:55.20 | NeoTron | they aren't fixing the bug, just the workaround? |
| 21:55.20 | viisual | No i think it means you can't refresh it.. |
| 21:55.30 | Hirsute | Dunno |
| 21:55.41 | viisual | Like, if you use IT and get it from that, and then IT again before IT drops, it wont refresh, but PS will refresh it |
| 21:55.46 | Dashkal | I dunno, just made me even more glad I can blood tank now |
| 21:56.09 | viisual | Howling Blast: Cooldown removed, just go respsec DW until they nerf KM |
| 21:56.28 | Dashkal | viisual: we're more interested in the part about CF and EP not-stacking with each other. As it's stated you can have one and only one unholy DK in a 25 man raid |
| 21:56.33 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r4895 / (2 files in 2 directories): BigWigs: |
| 21:56.35 | Repo | - Fix trigger for Some Translations issue. need check.(Sartharion & Thaddius) and remove LOG |
| 21:56.58 | NeoTron | duration I noticed EB was always longer than the diseases causing it |
| 21:57.07 | NeoTron | but yes, it's the CF and EB not stacking that concerns me |
| 21:57.10 | viisual | I think what they are refering to is Ebon Plaguebringer and The younger talented version bug. |
| 21:57.11 | NeoTron | well |
| 21:57.14 | Dashkal | If they can somehow let them sit beside each other but not _stack_ that would solve the issue |
| 21:57.28 | NeoTron | we don't have two unholy DK's but it sounds like they are removing the only workaround to allow 2 dk's to have 3 diseases |
| 21:57.32 | NeoTron | without fixing the problem |
| 21:57.55 | viisual | I'm pretty sure I read that the problem was indeed a problem and a fix was in place. |
| 21:58.14 | Dashkal | A fix is being investigated, but nobody's announced an actual solution yet |
| 21:58.38 | NeoTron | the problem was acknowledged yes, but from what I've seen not fixe |
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| 21:59.46 | viisual | There was also a glitch with the proposed workaround of speccing into the two seperate diseases that lead to... *searches for link* |
| 22:00.22 | NeoTron | at the same time I see this... |
| 22:00.25 | NeoTron | "Shadow Embrace: This ability will now create a separate debuff stack for each Warlock with the talent, and each warlock will benefit properly from his or her own debuff.' |
| 22:00.44 | viisual | that's... ugh |
| 22:00.59 | Mikk | Why can't just the highest one apply? :S |
| 22:01.28 | NeoTron | the above is the correct fix |
| 22:01.31 | NeoTron | why is it "ugh"? |
| 22:01.46 | Hirsute | For shadow embrace, or for Ebon Plague/Crypt Fever |
| 22:01.53 | Hirsute | Mikk |
| 22:01.53 | NeoTron | both |
| 22:01.57 | Arrowmaster | whats the debuff limit now? |
| 22:02.08 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: for all intents and purposes, there is no limit |
| 22:02.55 | viisual | They get a fix, we don't. |
| 22:02.57 | viisual | ugh |
| 22:03.17 | Dashkal | I imagine the holdup is that it's very difficult to make the diseases both sit beside each other _and_ have the raid-wide debuff not stack. |
| 22:03.18 | viisual | The problem, at least by the fix notes, seems very similar. |
| 22:03.43 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.08 | NeoTron | sometimes I wonder how their code looks |
| 22:04.11 | NeoTron | this isn't a difficult issue |
| 22:05.51 | Dashkal | I imagine the code is a mess of concurrency locks and the like |
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| 22:10.37 | viisual | NeoTron, about that bug I was reffering to: http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t37337-dual_wield_builds/p18/#post1025306 |
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| 22:18.18 | Dashkal | hmm, I'm having trouble deciding between the agi/sta food and the exp/sta food for when I'm tanking |
| 22:19.29 | Dashkal | May say hell with it and just get the tracker food for hunting down that twit who ganked me |
| 22:20.30 | AckisWork | large feast > all |
| 22:20.51 | Dashkal | I'm picking the recipie that'll get me up to small feast |
| 22:21.35 | Dashkal | It's the fish feast I really want, but my fisher is still level 70. Her fishing skill is fine but I'd rather not see her get jumped by every bored 80 when she finds an out-of-the-way place to fish |
| 22:21.50 | AckisWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.15 | Dashkal | I just got my DK's cooking up recently thanks to the winter achievement |
| 22:22.15 | NeoTron | Dashkal: I use hit/sta |
| 22:22.18 | Dashkal | Figured I might as well |
| 22:22.27 | Dashkal | NeoTron: hit while tanking is an idea as well, hmm |
| 22:22.41 | NeoTron | very nice for threat purposes since I'm far from the hit cap |
| 22:22.44 | Dashkal | for DPS I'm just north of the cap (about 10%) |
| 22:22.55 | NeoTron | while my expertise is >dodge cap although below parry cap |
| 22:23.02 | Dashkal | Well, agi would be for pure defense, expertise is a balance, and hit would be pure threat |
| 22:23.31 | Dashkal | Hit would be far and away better than strength for threat since I'm so low on hit in tanking gear |
| 22:24.03 | durcyn | hit's an amazing threat stat, tanks that don't care about it make me sad |
| 22:25.05 | viisual | How much hit does a Duel Wield person need? |
| 22:25.45 | ckknight | viisual: a bajillion |
| 22:25.58 | Dashkal | I'm thinking I miss more than I get dodged or parried anyway, yeah, hit it is |
| 22:27.08 | steev | ckknight: pretty much |
| 22:27.20 | steev | at one point for the tg warriors it was 900 ish |
| 22:27.48 | steev | or maybe thats rogues, one of the two |
| 22:27.51 | durcyn | something like 28% to completely remove the offhand hit penalty |
| 22:27.57 | Shefki | I don't get it... Blizz changed the Preserved and Fresh Holy from saying: Transforms your mount into something more festive... to |
| 22:28.03 | Shefki | Your mount will be more festive. |
| 22:28.09 | Shefki | The old text seems much better to me. |
| 22:28.57 | viisual | I know rite, everyone ... loves ... elipses. |
| 22:29.04 | ckknight | Shefki: you should give yourself an avatar on curseforge |
| 22:29.05 | Shefki | The elipses were mine. |
| 22:29.07 | ckknight | and/or wowace |
| 22:29.18 | viisual | Oh. yea that is just plain odd then. |
| 22:29.52 | Shefki | Especially since they left all the brewfest ones the same as they were. |
| 22:30.01 | Shefki | Which was the same as the Holly. |
| 22:30.26 | Shefki | ckknight: *shrug* |
| 22:30.46 | ckknight | :P |
| 22:30.49 | ckknight | I like images |
| 22:31.49 | Shefki | " * Dreamwalker's Regalia 2 piece bonus has been changed to reduce the mana cost of Lifebloom." |
| 22:32.02 | Shefki | Wow... That's much better than what it was. |
| 22:32.06 | Shefki | I'm surprised they'd do that. |
| 22:32.21 | viisual | Did they fix the bogus ass glove bonus for DKs in pvp yet? |
| 22:32.24 | Shefki | It's not like the T7 2 piece was bad anyway. |
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| 22:35.35 | ckknight | mmm... ass gloves |
| 22:36.03 | ckknight | Shefki: I made a forum post: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=15552 |
| 22:36.55 | Shefki | Spiffy. |
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| 22:38.37 | viisual | Use the ticket system., your missing [b][/b] I think |
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| 22:39.20 | ckknight | hehe, viisual |
| 22:39.45 | ckknight | Shefki: I need to write more docs on how to write modules |
| 22:40.10 | Repo | 10auto-invite: 03idefix6 04v1.83 * r33 : |
| 22:40.13 | Repo | Fixed bug: Right click on the death knight displayed the context menu on a wrong position. |
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| 22:43.35 | Stanzilla | reads teh wall of text |
| 22:45.02 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03vangual 06vangual 07master * a5f77be Modules/TotemTimers/TotemTimers.lua: [+1 commit] pbtt: removed some debug codes and comments. (drycode) |
| 22:46.40 | steev | ckknight: new codebase means my current pitbull 3 setup will need to be rewritten when i switch to 4? |
| 22:46.49 | steev | re-written/re-setup |
| 22:46.56 | ckknight | yes, but it'll take you 5 minutes to set up rather than 2 hours |
| 22:46.58 | ckknight | hopefully. |
| 22:47.10 | ckknight | that's the goal, at least |
| 22:47.12 | steev | i only use player/party/target/focus/pet |
| 22:47.13 | ckknight | ;) |
| 22:47.15 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:47.27 | ckknight | well, if you don't mind the lack of the Auras module, you can start using it now |
| 22:47.48 | steev | mmm not sure if i use that or not |
| 22:48.01 | steev | pretty sure i did when i was mainly playing my resto shaman |
| 22:48.03 | ckknight | it's to see buffs/debuffs on the unit frames |
| 22:48.06 | steev | to know when i needed to cleanse |
| 22:48.15 | ckknight | Shefki's working on that now |
| 22:48.21 | Pneumatus | hahaha |
| 22:48.27 | ckknight | what, Pneumatus? |
| 22:48.27 | Pneumatus | gluth didnt despawn his adds |
| 22:48.32 | ckknight | ah, lol |
| 22:48.34 | steev | ohsnap |
| 22:48.40 | steev | DI DI DI |
| 22:48.42 | Pneumatus | and i, as a holy priest came 8th on damage done for the fight :> |
| 22:48.54 | Vangual | yea, took us longer than the actual bossfight to clean them up |
| 22:48.59 | Pneumatus | due to mind searing the adds :> |
| 22:49.20 | erica647 | that should be an achievement imo |
| 22:49.25 | steev | woo ptr finally setup on the laptop |
| 22:50.08 | erica647 | I'm avoiding this ptr... too much hunter hate |
| 22:50.24 | steev | i just wanna see how my dk does with the changes |
| 22:50.48 | Hirsute | Heh |
| 22:50.57 | erica647 | you guys are getting buffs too right? and warlocks |
| 22:50.59 | NivFreak | ckknight: eta on auras module? |
| 22:51.07 | ckknight | NivFreak: you'll have to ask Shefki |
| 22:51.10 | ckknight | but I'm not rushing him |
| 22:51.16 | NivFreak | Shefki: HI |
| 22:51.17 | ckknight | I'd rather have a good product a few weeks from now |
| 22:51.22 | ckknight | than a shitty product today |
| 22:51.25 | NivFreak | well I'm just asking |
| 22:51.40 | steev | damn, gotta patch |
| 22:51.40 | NivFreak | you know my first complaint with pitbull |
| 22:51.41 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 22:51.44 | steev | erica647: somewhat |
| 22:51.48 | steev | some buffs, some nerfs |
| 22:51.48 | ckknight | NivFreak: what's that? |
| 22:51.59 | steev | overall a *shrug* not like ill play more or play less because of them |
| 22:52.10 | steev | ill still log in and do heroics, or hit up naxx, or pvp |
| 22:52.19 | erica647 | steev: that's the way it should be if you like your class |
| 22:52.21 | NivFreak | ckknight: that it took like 3 hours of tweaking to get it properly usable :) |
| 22:52.27 | ckknight | ah, yea |
| 22:52.30 | ckknight | want to prevent that |
| 22:52.35 | steev | erica647: i was a ret pally pre wotlk |
| 22:52.46 | steev | its nice to be op for once |
| 22:52.56 | steev | and i mean i was ret pre 3.0 |
| 22:52.59 | erica647 | steev: ret pallies aren't?! lol |
| 22:53.13 | steev | erica647: i was in wsg the other day on my dk |
| 22:53.25 | steev | i took out another dk, a warrior, a druid, and a mage |
| 22:53.31 | steev | had 2k health left |
| 22:53.33 | erica647 | steev: at the same time? |
| 22:53.40 | steev | turned around and there was a pally there |
| 22:53.45 | steev | i took him down, he bubbled |
| 22:53.48 | steev | healed up |
| 22:53.51 | steev | i took him down again |
| 22:54.01 | steev | and ended the fight with 5k health |
| 22:54.10 | steev | erica647: yes |
| 22:54.11 | NeoTron | Pneumatus: last nights gluth left a single zombie chow up |
| 22:54.13 | erica647 | steev: wow lol |
| 22:54.29 | Pneumatus | NeoTron: we had like 30 |
| 22:55.05 | steev | erica647: its easy - hit the warrior with mark, kill the druid, throw on the shield when the mage is about to pyro, take out the mage, take out the dk and then take out the warrior |
| 22:56.14 | erica647 | steev: sounds like you know what you're doing... those players are tough with any class |
| 22:56.45 | viisual | Yea, I get stuck at "Kill the druid" |
| 22:57.04 | erica647 | some do have like a bazillion health |
| 22:57.22 | viisual | OH you snared me? I mean wasted your rune? np/shift |
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| 22:57.32 | erica647 | rofl |
| 22:57.59 | NivFreak | killing druids is easy unless the SM->FF grrr |
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| 22:59.35 | steev | chains+strangulate=deaddrood |
| 23:00.26 | erica647 | I'm on a pve server though... we pet druids |
| 23:00.30 | steev | no idea how the dual wield spec im in works out in pvp - i did some wintergrasp last night after changing specs but thats not very good to figure it out |
| 23:00.36 | steev | im on a normal server too |
| 23:00.43 | steev | i only pvp when someone is retarded |
| 23:00.45 | viisual | 32/39 ? |
| 23:00.50 | steev | viisual: mayb |
| 23:01.10 | steev | viisual: yah |
| 23:01.24 | viisual | I do well in BGs although that's not really a valid statement though |
| 23:01.27 | steev | im assuming it won't do as well |
| 23:01.40 | steev | since i don't have self healses anymore |
| 23:01.51 | steev | aside from ghoul sac |
| 23:02.01 | viisual | It is nice and annoying to others, that's for damn sure. |
| 23:02.02 | steev | which wont be fixed for another month or so |
| 23:02.23 | steev | 32/39? or the ghoul sac or the self heals |
| 23:02.28 | erica647 | steev: think it will be that long before the next patch? |
| 23:02.30 | viisual | 32/39 |
| 23:02.39 | steev | why annoying? |
| 23:03.14 | viisual | If you run fast/fast, and people see all the scrolling damage, and hear the sounds, and add on necrosis/bkb (albeit shitty in pvp) it just feels worse than it really is |
| 23:03.15 | steev | erica647: no idea, but i'd rather it be as bug squished as possible |
| 23:03.30 | erica647 | steev: agreed |
| 23:03.51 | steev | viisual: ah, currently i have 2 of the blades from ebon blade |
| 23:03.58 | steev | so... slow slow i think is what im running |
| 23:04.01 | steev | might be fast fast |
| 23:04.09 | viisual | 2.6s, go grab wyrmest blades at 1.5 spd revered. |
| 23:04.18 | steev | er |
| 23:04.19 | steev | tf |
| 23:04.27 | steev | rofl damn graphics |
| 23:04.43 | steev | my offhand is currently one of my dw tank swords |
| 23:04.53 | viisual | I dropped... |
| 23:04.53 | steev | i don't normally run around like that |
| 23:05.12 | steev | haven't gotten to do any instances yet though |
| 23:05.20 | viisual | I replaced this: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39221, with these: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44187 |
| 23:06.04 | steev | i actually have enough emblems to get grasscutter but |
| 23:06.11 | steev | im saving for the t7 chest |
| 23:06.16 | steev | only 10 away so *shrug* |
| 23:07.10 | viisual | I can't imagine you being to far away from those wyrmrest swords, and it WILL increase your dps drasticly. |
| 23:07.38 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/vendorsearch/. VendorSearch. adriweb (Manager/Author). Approved by moonwitch. |
| 23:07.42 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/zzhuntar/. Zug Zug Huntar. Turaka (Manager/Author). Approved by moonwitch. |
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| 23:07.52 | steev | viisual: im exalted with all 4 of the main ones, and vanguard so |
| 23:08.02 | steev | im only at 7g though so... dailies tiem! |
| 23:08.27 | steev | ok time to go home, have a good night yall |
| 23:08.30 | viisual | peace |
| 23:08.33 | Fisker- | looks deeply into Zeksie's eyes |
| 23:08.45 | NivFreak | so how much of a dps loss is imp FF to a balance druid now days? |
| 23:09.03 | Zeksie | You won't find any answers in there. |
| 23:09.35 | Fisker- | aww |
| 23:09.49 | Fisker- | You should improve malygos halpar |
| 23:10.00 | NivFreak | dude |
| 23:10.04 | NivFreak | wtf is malygos helper |
| 23:10.10 | Fisker- | it's your mom |
| 23:10.13 | NivFreak | I installed it, and I think I need a manual to read it |
| 23:10.18 | Fisker- | :O? |
| 23:10.25 | NivFreak | the display means nothing to me |
| 23:10.35 | Fisker- | Shows your debuff stacks + time on it |
| 23:10.39 | Zeksie | monitors everyone's stack count for engulf in flames during phase 3 |
| 23:10.47 | Zeksie | and allows you to see what your own is at ofc |
| 23:11.08 | Fisker- | But the design is if like Bush made it |
| 23:11.22 | NivFreak | it's just cryptic |
| 23:11.26 | Thrae | Fisker-: I saw your mom last night. She said she thought *you* were hot. |
| 23:11.34 | Hirsute | Now, isn't zzHuntar going to be obsolete after the next patch? |
| 23:11.36 | Zeksie | cryptic how? 1 bar per person. |
| 23:11.36 | NivFreak | :) |
| 23:11.54 | NivFreak | it makes more sense now that you explain it, I think we were expecting something different |
| 23:11.55 | Zeksie | the bar fades off as their debuff does, and the number at the end shows the stack count |
| 23:12.12 | Fisker- | Thrae and your mom kept screaming after you when i pounded her |
| 23:12.20 | Fisker- | but it needs to be bettar Zeksie |
| 23:12.21 | Fisker- | liek: |
| 23:12.26 | Fisker- | Seperate bar for yourself |
| 23:12.30 | Fisker- | Better bar |
| 23:12.40 | Zeksie | yeh, maybe |
| 23:12.43 | Thrae | Fisker-: That sentence fails in readability. |
| 23:12.44 | Fisker- | Possibly some kind of "OMG TARDS YOU SUCK" announcement |
| 23:12.46 | Zeksie | fatter u mean |
| 23:12.47 | Fisker- | your mom Thrae |
| 23:13.05 | Fisker- | Zeksie just so you can distinguish your own bar from others |
| 23:13.06 | Fisker- | also |
| 23:13.15 | Zeksie | yours is the one with your name in it.. |
| 23:13.16 | Fisker- | Perhaps a real timer rather than just a green bar |
| 23:13.16 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 23:13.26 | Fisker- | i hate you :( |
| 23:13.37 | Zeksie | it's always at the bottom too |
| 23:13.38 | Hirsute | Because, unless I misread the patch notes, now tracking any one of the mob types listed under Imp Tracking will give you the boost against all of them.... |
| 23:13.43 | Fisker- | not here |
| 23:13.49 | Zeksie | (meant to be always at the top).. but at least it don't move. |
| 23:14.10 | Fisker- | Mine is in the middle of everything |
| 23:14.16 | Zeksie | wierd.. |
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| 23:14.42 | Zeksie | ooh.. yeh. i might have fudged the sorter thing... cos my name's a 'Z'... it comes at end regardless ;) |
| 23:14.49 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 23:14.52 | Fisker- | i.e. i win |
| 23:15.59 | Zeksie | yeh, had the 1 and the 0 wrong way round.. go me |
| 23:16.16 | viisual | ROFL |
| 23:16.18 | viisual | =D |
| 23:17.23 | Zeksie | ok. fixing that, and making own bar double width at top |
| 23:17.38 | Zeksie | well. double height should i say |
| 23:19.07 | Fisker- | please giev second timer as well :9 |
| 23:19.08 | Fisker- | :3 |
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| 23:43.02 | Repo | 10malygos-helper: 03Zeksie * r8 MalygosHelper.lua: |
| 23:43.04 | Repo | MalygosHelper: Fixed sorting func so your bar is always at the top of the list, and made your own bar double height. The damage option now defaults to on for new installs, and the damage will no longer reset when you drop your stacks (which you shouldn't be doing!!!). |
| 23:43.33 | NivFreak | lol |
| 23:43.36 | NivFreak | people do drop stacks though |
| 23:43.41 | NivFreak | especially when they have to shield |
| 23:43.46 | Zeksie | yeh. i know :) |
| 23:43.46 | NivFreak | they panic |
| 23:44.04 | NivFreak | I was thinking of having people switch to a 3xspike+engulf to give more leway there |
| 23:44.28 | Zeksie | yeh, we told our guys, if you have problem with 2x, then try 3x |
| 23:44.39 | Zeksie | not that they listen,.. |
| 23:44.54 | NivFreak | yea, I haven't done the math to see how much it affects dps |
| 23:45.02 | NivFreak | but honestly it might not matter |
| 23:45.07 | Zeksie | well. basically +1 sec per application |
| 23:45.09 | NivFreak | I'm going to try that 5min malygos strat |
| 23:45.22 | NivFreak | so p3 would be trivial if it goes well |
| 23:45.51 | Zeksie | what? burn him as he enters p3? |
| 23:46.10 | NivFreak | stack 5x sparks, and burn him on the p2 transition to 0% |
| 23:46.10 | Zeksie | erm.. p2 |
| 23:46.24 | NivFreak | we were talking about it in here yesterday |
| 23:46.35 | NivFreak | apparently if you pull it off correctly, he has 1hp in p3 |
| 23:46.41 | Zeksie | heh |
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| 23:47.37 | Fisker- | 2x is fine |
| 23:47.56 | Fisker- | You'll only have a problem with 2x if you get power surged several times in a row |
| 23:48.11 | Fisker- | Since you can survive one power surge just bump it to 3x when he does power surge |
| 23:48.12 | Fisker- | or 4x |
| 23:49.59 | Fisker- | btw |
| 23:50.05 | Fisker- | we pewpew'd malygos :3 |
| 23:50.07 | Fisker- | on 25-man |
| 23:50.10 | Fisker- | and i got my necklace |
| 23:50.14 | Fisker- | and i were like "oooooowned" |
| 23:50.19 | Zeksie | :) |
| 23:50.27 | Fisker- | because everyone were like "Lol we won't take malygos" |
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| 23:50.56 | Fisker- | wins over Shirik |
| 23:51.04 | Fisker- | btw |
| 23:51.07 | Fisker- | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- |
| 23:51.13 | Fisker- | i just bought a new PSU with 8-pin connectors |
| 23:51.19 | Stanzilla | pwnd |
| 23:51.31 | Fisker- | and it turns out nvidia went back to 6-pins because of the power saved from switching to 55nm |
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| 23:58.16 | Aeyan | Unlucky, most PSUs do that 6+2 pin thing |
| 23:58.27 | Skellum | case fans plug into the PSU with no need to plug into the mobo correct? |
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| 23:59.28 | Aeyan | Yeah |
| 23:59.31 | Aeyan | Just the cpu fan |
