IRC log for #wowace on 20090106

00:00.25Arrowmasterit was also all in JSP from what i remember so its not like theres a lot of people that could work on it anyway, from what i understand JSP isnt known by a lot of people
00:01.20NeoTronit's java regardless
00:01.26NeoTronJSP isn't that weird
00:03.59Repo10grid-dynamic-layout: 03Mokhtar * r43 / (2 files in 1 directory): GridDynamicLayout:
00:04.01Repo- Added an option to display pets for everybody in raid (Malygos)
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00:07.35CodayusMy impression is being in
00:07.45Codayusgrr.
00:07.53TorhalBlacklisting sems to have the same caveats as whitelisting: Someone's addon can make a frame clickable by virtue of having a different frame name.
00:07.54GnarfozI agree
00:08.55ShefkiTorhal: Except that one just shows an interface someplace it can't be used and another makes your addon work.
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00:09.08Shefkiaddon *not* work that is.
00:09.29Arrowmastersolution: use both and make it an option to use the whitelist or blacklist!
00:09.36ckknightgraylist
00:09.43TorhalAt that point, I may as well just get rid of the list altogether and let the user figure it out.
00:10.17Repo10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r43 Broker_RecZone.lua: Broker_RecZone:
00:10.21TorhalArrowmaster: :P
00:10.21Repo- Missed a L that should be Z
00:10.28Repo10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r121 LibLordFarlander-2.0/LibLordFarlander-2.0.lua: LibLordFarlander-2.0:
00:10.30Repo- Ah, it's Blade's Edge Arena
00:10.31ShefkiI'd just have a blacklist that's configurable and let users turn off frames outside the default that they don't want.
00:11.01ShefkiAt worst your addon shows up on frames you don't really want and the user can just turn it off.
00:12.22TorhalI don't expect the users to know the names of the frames, though,.
00:12.51ShefkiOf course not, that's why there's an option in your UI that pops up when they click to disable it showing for that frame.
00:12.55ShefkiThen they don't have to know.
00:13.28Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 043.1.2-beta * r125 : Tagging as 3.1.2-beta
00:13.37TorhalBah. Overkill for a click-to-tradeskill addon.
00:13.48ShefkiAvoid writing stuff that requires you to maintain a list up to date because you're bound to miss something or will get busy and not keep it updated.
00:14.01TorhalAye, point taken. :)
00:14.02TorhalDanke.
00:14.25ShefkiOr you'll hear users whine because something changed and "It used to work" and they didn't bother to update.
00:14.34TorhalIndeed.
00:15.19TorhalI was trying to avoid users complaining because "I can't make this dish from the ingredients in the merchant window" and other such nonsense.
00:15.37TorhalFuck 'em.
00:15.40TorhalHeh
00:16.10ShefkiEven if you disable those frames some silly user is gonna coomplain about it anyway.
00:16.55TorhalOk, got rid of frame-checking altogether. Gonna see how fun things get.
00:17.08ShefkiThis is based on experience from file systems but...
00:17.09Arrowmasterckknight: i sent you a forum pm with a list, not that sure about the numbers though
00:17.16ckknightk
00:17.20ShefkiIt's generally better to try and do something and trap the error.
00:17.37ShefkiThan trying and check if you can do something and try to think for the user.
00:18.29Repo10buttonfacade_apathy: 03StormFX * r58 / (4 files in 4 directories): - Tweaked the border texture.
00:20.39ckknightalright, there's a link to Localization on projects that have it enabled (and at least one active phrase)
00:20.48Repo10buttonfacade_apathy: 03StormFX 043.0.58 * r59 : Tagging as 3.0.58
00:22.54Repo10revelation: 03Torhal * r36 Revelation.lua:
00:22.56RepoCompletely removed frame-name-checking code. This allows clicks on silly shit but, as Shefki pointed out, prevents Revelation from breaking on an unknown bag AddOn.
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00:29.19Repo10buttonfacade_apathy: 03StormFX 043.0.56 * r60 : - Tag cleanup
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00:45.34Sliker_Hawkrrright
00:45.43Gnarfozwrrrrong
00:45.49CodayusDamnit, I was just typing that.
00:46.06Sliker_HawkI just gots a load of in game mails from blizz who've managed to restore what a bot was farming when my account was hacked rather than what I lost
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00:46.46CodayusWhy do I have a feeling it's less valuable than what you lost?
00:47.28Sliker_Hawkyou're right, I think
00:47.30doom0r"We just finished level three, and need to tighten up the graphics..."
00:47.49Sliker_HawkI've got .. thousands of hi-impact mithril slugs and a few elements/herbs
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00:52.30Groktarbleeds all over you
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00:56.14Repo10grid-dynamic-layout: 03Mokhtar 04v1.2 * r44 : Tagging as v1.2
00:56.35GnarfozSliker_Hawk: how nice of them to restore those very valuable items to you!
00:56.49Sliker_HawkIndeed
00:57.04Repo10revelation: 03Torhal * r37 / (4 files in 4 directories): Updated .pkgmeta, removed embedded libs.
00:57.20Sliker_HawkLuckily they didn't sell any gear or anything, lost all my gold though
00:57.34Sliker_HawkSo at least I can still play while I wait another two weeks
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01:01.03Repo10charge-meter: 03Starinnia * r22 ChargeMeter.lua: bugfix
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01:10.44NivFreak~wowalert
01:10.45purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
01:14.09sbno patch, mh?
01:14.52Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r4893 / (4 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 2 lines)
01:14.53RepoBigWigs:
01:14.56Repo- Malygos: Fix Overload timer
01:14.58Repo- Noth: Changed blink trigger
01:15.01Repo- Thaddius: Removed charge and Add polarity_trigger
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01:29.04Gnarfozthat guy again
01:29.05Gnarfoz:\
01:29.32Repo10grid-status-raid-debuff: 037destiny * r94 GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua: GridStatusRaidDebuff:
01:29.35Repo- Remove 'Chains of Kel'Thuzad' duration
01:32.14Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1314 Locals/ARLLocals-zhTW.lua: Update zhTW
01:32.32doom0rwill chatter's playername module catch who's from census+?
01:33.47Primerso, for a pvp warlock...+23 haste to cloak or +1000 holy damage?
01:34.55Sliker_Hawkholy?
01:35.09Primerhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47898
01:35.10Primeror
01:35.25Primerhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=55642
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01:36.04Sliker_Hawkbut
01:36.08Sliker_Hawklocks don't do holy damage
01:36.24Primerdoesn't say anything about locks having to do holy damage, does it?
01:36.42Primerit just says "1000 to 1200 holy damage on spell cast"
01:36.47Sliker_HawkBut you do have to do holy damage in order for that to proc
01:36.48Sliker_HawkI think
01:36.53Primerdoesn't say that
01:36.53Cursesno
01:36.58Sliker_HawkOh. fine then.
01:37.07Primerso..which one?
01:37.16Primerall my other pvp gear is haste
01:37.28Skellumdont use the lightweave
01:37.31PrimerI'm up to about 700 resil and 300 haste with spell stone
01:37.34SkellumThe 23 haste to cloak enchant is better
01:37.39Primerok, thanks
01:37.41SkellumOh wait..PvP. Yea lightweave is better
01:37.46Primererr
01:37.48Primerheh
01:38.05Skellumsorry there, sustained DPS the 23 haste wins, the lightweave adds potential burst to PvP
01:40.58NeoTronare you really sure?
01:41.09Skellumyea, the maths are been done
01:41.36Primermy lock owns in DPS in raids now as 0/41/30
01:41.42Primerhave yet to try full affliction
01:42.01PrimerI've been pulling close to 4000 dps in some fights
01:42.11SkellumAff is the best...but its painful
01:42.19Primeryeah, the rotation is tedious
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01:42.49Skellumand you can only have 1 aff lock per raid
01:42.58quiescenswhy?
01:42.59NeoTronfrom what I've seen the tailoring one is better. where's the math that says otheriwse?
01:43.08Primerwith 0/41/30, it's: empowered demon, corruption (for the shadow trance proc), CoA, immolate, incinerate, incin, incin
01:43.08SkellumShadow Embrace bug
01:43.13ShaneSvellerHi all, I'm having a weird issue with a fresh install of EavesDrop, it is showing *no events* whatsoever. I used to use HitsMode and thought I'd give ED a try instead. Any common issues with it?
01:43.15CursesThye fixed that
01:43.20Cursesthey*
01:43.29quiescensthe haste will scale as you get better dps
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01:43.34NeoTronah well my lock is not a tailor so don't care :P
01:43.37quiescensstatic damage procs don't scale
01:43.37Primerwith a fel guard, of course
01:43.39thuli pull 1800 dps :-P
01:43.46Skellumdefinintly didnt, I was in a raid the other day and one of my other locks was jacking my buff.
01:44.26thulhttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Argent+Dawn&n=Nyxos <- i should socket some gems.
01:44.31NeoTronit scales with crit
01:44.32Repo10charge-meter: 03Starinnia * r23 ChargeMeter.lua:
01:44.32SkellumCurses, are you talking about that guy...about page 4 or 5 of the aff discussion on EJ?
01:44.34Repotweaks, add a slight delay to the charge check from the emote
01:44.37PrimerI still have 2 blues
01:44.45thuli have to purpleepix.
01:44.47thultwo
01:45.02Primerand lots of "spirit" gear...I really hate that blizz made locks use spirit
01:45.03CursesI don't read EJ but last time I tested it was working as intended
01:45.12Cursesso I don't know
01:45.15SkellumSE wont affect more then 1 lock per raid.
01:45.26thuli so want the HoL heroic 2h
01:45.30SkellumSo whoever gets it up first gets good DPS. The second gets below 0/41/30 DPS
01:45.41thulsomeone on eu-alliance invite me to a guild that does heroics 2-3 evenings pr week :-P
01:46.28CursesYea I tested it awhile ago then started playing my paladin
01:46.32Cursesso I never went back
01:46.50Skellumworking on leveling my DK
01:46.58SkellumI have a pally...and eventualy I will get him up there
01:47.04thuli need to gear my dk up a lot.
01:47.19Skellumheirloom items own for leveling
01:47.35thulthen maybe i'll bother starting leveling the rogue i have at 70, the shaman at 70 and the pala at 65 :-P i just hated leveling the rogue.. it was just so sucky..  the survivability on the rogue compared to the dk? hey ho vanish
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01:52.52Repo10wintergraspfu: 03-Adron- * r18 / (3 files in 2 directories): Added zhTW localization, courtesy of andy52005
01:52.54RepoFixed svn:externals for FuBarPlugin-2.0 and AceOO
01:52.57RepoAdded back @project-version@ tag in toc
01:53.21ckknighthey all
01:53.26ckknighthow's everyone doing?
01:53.40Zhinjiois ok.
01:53.46Zhinjiodidn't get as much done today as I wanted.
01:54.40ckknightanyone want to see a potential design for the next curse client?
01:54.54ckknight(it's just UI niceties)
01:55.08NivFreakwhen do we get a working mac client?
01:55.47ckknightI don't know
01:55.54ckknightand as a mac user, that's troubling
01:56.02NivFreakagreed
01:56.12Skellumsure ck
01:56.14NivFreakthe last one kolie gave me is fucking worthles
01:56.25NivFreakit randomly sees an addon update
01:56.28NivFreakbut never all of them
01:56.35NivFreaknot even close
01:56.43ckknighthttp://i39.tinypic.com/n1ulig.jpg
01:57.48ckknightit's just a few layout changes and some icons to clarify things
01:57.49Skellumnot bad, v ery simple
01:57.55ckknightbut I think it makes a good bit of difference
01:58.13SkellumLast time I used it the program seemed very invasive asking me to set up profiles and linking it to character things and I think running in the back ground
01:58.25Repo10wintergraspfu: 03-Adron- 041.1-beta2 * r19 : 1.1 beta 2
01:58.27RepodeDE translation by kunda
01:58.30RepozhTW translation by andy52005
01:58.45ckknightSkellum: *shrug*
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02:10.51Skellumis it still the same?
02:11.37ant1pathysooo...
02:11.52ant1pathyhow do you get ahold of the CC alpha D:
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02:13.47NeoTronckknight: that seems a lot more sane. mainly it lists version numbers potentially making it useful (no offense meant but the old "date" thing is crap)
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02:38.14ulicin your opinion, what is the order of difficulty/progression for the current raids in WotLK?
02:38.40doom0rPUG, 10man, 25man
02:39.17ulici meant more like Naxx->Obsidian->Vault->EyeOfEtn.
02:39.40doom0rvault, os, naxx, eye
02:39.48ulicI'd assume it's probably the same for either 10 or 25 man.
02:41.15Arrowmasterdepends on how many drakes you do in os
02:41.24Arrowmaster2 or less is perty easy
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02:41.55ulicwell assuming you are actually just progressing along, I'd do it with all dead first time and go from there :)
02:42.01doom0r3 is achievement anyways
02:42.06doom0rnot loot mod
02:42.37ulicI just have a very very small guild, and was just starting to ponder what order to attack things in.
02:42.48ulicwe only have like 4 80's so far :)
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03:09.10doom0rwhite polar bear mount at its current animation speed reminds me of GiR
03:09.31doom0rit's got the most retarded blank eyed look
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03:26.25chiperdoes dogtag have a value for showing a player's name with their title?
03:26.59chiperwould like to put it on my cowtip
03:29.52chiperpokes ckknight
03:30.47AeyanIf I remember right, it's [Name:PVPRank]
03:30.55AeyanAnd yeah, it's more than pvp ranks
03:31.36chiperahah, excellent
03:31.40chiperty
03:32.23AeyanSure thing
03:33.08Shefki[Name:PVPRank] doesn't work right really.
03:33.33ShefkiHmm maybe it does.  Someone must of fixed it.
03:33.34chiperseems to be working
03:33.41ShefkiLast time I messed with it, I didn't think it was working right.
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03:34.17ShefkiOhh I bet I was expecting it to only return the PVPRank and not just whatever title they had set baed on the name.
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03:40.48Repo10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander * r147 MiniPet.lua: MiniPet:
03:40.51Repo- The summony commands work right
03:40.54Repo10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r131 Coconuts.lua: Coconuts:
03:40.56Repo- The summony commands work right
03:44.34Repo10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander * r148 MiniPet.lua: MiniPet:
03:44.36Repo- Fix for right clicking the LDB not simply dismissing the critter
03:49.29Repo10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander 043.0.44-beta * r44 : Tagging as 3.0.44-beta
03:51.06Groktargogo 1400dps rogue on 3 drake sartharion
03:51.39Jyggahow the fuck did i get a quadruple wf crit ?
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04:01.03ckknighthey chiper
04:02.05chiperhey, aeyan already answered my question :)
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04:10.34Repo10grid: 03Greltok 07unitguid * r1107 GridStatusReadyCheck.lua: Changed default priority from 90 to 95.
04:11.08Repo10revelation: 03Torhal * r41 .pkgmeta: Changed .pkgmeta again
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04:13.11Torhalckknight: I'm seeing this in ToC files...
04:13.14Torhal## X-Curse-Repository-ID: @repository-id@
04:13.20TorhalNot being replaced.
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04:18.51Repo10nanotalk: 03Torhal * r26 .pkgmeta: Update.
04:21.02Repo10nanotalk: 03Torhal * r27 Libs (2 files in 2 directories): Removed embedded LibQTip.
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04:30.25doom0rsay it loud
04:38.29Zyndromehttp://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=bFjFa4HTbH8 more like
04:40.21doom0rhttp://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=2VRSAVDlpDI
04:50.38Sekkyo|afkWhy is Curse over 36 hours behind files.wowace.com for Release builds?
04:52.48doom0rgnomes are on vacation
04:52.51doom0rand the hamster is sleeping
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04:58.47Repo10head-count: 03seppyk * r65 / (6 files in 2 directories): HeadCount:
04:58.49Repo- Added automatic group selection.
05:05.12ArrowmasterSekkyo: files.wowace.com doesnt exist
05:05.21Sekkyohttp://static.wowace.com/uploads/18/321/420/Bartender4-4.2.2.ziphttp://static.wowace.com/uploads/18/321/420/Bartender4-4.2.2.zip
05:05.26Sekkyostatic.wowace.com then
05:05.51SekkyoWhy does Curse still think Bartender 4.2.1 is the latest when 4.2.2 was finished 38 hours ago?
05:06.13Arrowmasterbecause the db is broken atm
05:06.23SekkyoWhat DB?
05:06.50Arrowmasterthe wowace one, which caused curse to fail when trying to get the new info
05:07.09Arrowmasterand curse is broken because it didnt try to get the old info when it could get new info again after a failure
05:08.05ckknightTorhal: yea, need to fix that. It should say mainline
05:08.16Repo10lib-st: 03sithy 06sithy * r74 Core.lua: Updated to handle multi row select.
05:10.09Repo10libqtipclick-1-0: 03Torhal * r20 LibQTipClick-1.0/LibQTipClick-1.0.lua:
05:10.11RepoMade :AddNormalLine() and :AddNormalHeader return lineNul, colNum
05:10.51Repo10libqtipclick-1-0: 03Torhal 04v1.0.0-beta4 * r21 : Tagging as v1.0.0-beta4
05:11.09AeyanSekkyo: http://wow.curseforge.com/announcements/downtime-today/
05:11.27Sekkyothankies!@
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05:34.49XinhuanArrowmaster: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=260645#post260645
05:35.07ArrowmasterXinhuan: im the 1 vote
05:35.20Xinhuanoh? i haven't viewed the results
05:35.26Xinhuanbecause i don't even want to vote
05:35.54Xinhuanshouldn't you make a reply ;p
05:38.18Arrowmasterwas waiting to see if anybody else said something first
05:39.34doom0rfinally, last book
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05:41.31Xinhuando tags sync properly to curse now yet?
05:43.37Repo10recount2: 03Cryect * r174 / (2 files in 2 directories): Recount2:
05:43.41Repo-Bug fix with buffer if it would wrap around while adding would exceed the buffer for positioning
05:43.43Repo-Bug fix to adding the correct ids for timers
05:47.14Xinhuanhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/broker_battlegroundfu/
05:47.21Repo10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky * r10 / (6 files in 2 directories): GnomishYellowPages:
05:47.21Xinhuanshould i approve this or reject the naming
05:47.23Repo-fixed guild members not showing up issue
05:47.25Repo-embedded libtradelinks
05:47.34XinhuanBroker_xxxxxxxxFu sounds retarded?
05:47.54TorhalXinhuan: That's because it is.
05:48.15TorhalLordFarlander has a damn "Broker_LocationFu" for crying out loud.
05:48.23sacarascAckis: ping
05:48.43TorhalOh, that's his as well
05:48.45TorhalGawd.
05:49.17Xinhuanyu mean this
05:49.18Xinhuanhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/broker_garbagefu/
05:49.27sacarascAckis: never mind
05:50.08TorhalXinhuan: Ah, yah
05:50.22RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/mergebags/. MergeBags. -Adron- (Manager/Author). Approved by Xinhuan.
05:50.36TorhalI was confused because he also "continued" FuBar_RecommendedZone and didn't use the word "Fu" in it.
05:52.57RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker_battlegroundfu/. BattlegroundFu for Broker. LordFarlander (Manager/Author). Approved by Xinhuan.
05:52.59Xinhuani renamed it for him
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05:53.32TorhalStill has the spurious "Fu" in it.
05:53.34TorhalHeh
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05:54.48Brunersfu in the name or not, as long as it works does it really matter? :P
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05:58.10TorhalIt's misleading, is all.
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06:02.08doom0rBruners: depends, if expectations are met, it'll be like getting in the car to take out the trash
06:09.54quiescenswhat if you don't have local garbage collection
06:10.05Repo10wintergraspfu: 03kunda * r20 / (4 files in 1 directory): FuBar_WintergraspFu:
06:10.07Repo- localization fix ('... = true' is only okay in default loca file if using AceLocale-2.2)
06:10.10Repo- localized three strings
06:10.13Repo- deDE update
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06:26.52Repo10wintergraspfu: 03kunda * r21 WintergraspFu.lua: fix: only send to guild channel if player is in a guild
06:28.28Repo10recount2: 03Cryect * r175 GUI/GUI_List.lua: Recount2:
06:28.30Repo-Will perform insertion sort on new/changed rows for display if the number of rows changed is less than or equal to 3. Optimizes the situation where there are many rows but only a few changes.
06:29.11doom0r[Repo]: -Will perform insertion
06:29.55Cryecthmmm
06:30.28doom0ryou ever bother to put pics up btw?
06:30.36Cryectpics up of?
06:30.40doom0r^
06:30.56Cryecthttp://acm.jhu.edu/~cryect/Recount2/
06:31.14CryectIts not really ready for mainstream usage hence nothin on curse
06:31.28Cryectwould prefer to remove those downloads that are there but not sure how exactly
06:31.38Cryectespecially considering how old they are
06:32.09doom0ri was just curious to see where it was headed
06:32.27CryectHeh, well those images tell you?
06:32.44sztanpetis it working?
06:33.03CryectSure mostly
06:33.21sztanpetnice, i shall give it a go then
06:33.26doom0rgives something more than the rawful description ;x
06:33.30CryectJust kinda lacking on various features
06:34.06doom0rRecords Damage and Healing doesn't tell much :P
06:34.11ArrowmasterCryect: on wowace goto files and mark the ones you dont want available on curse as deleted
06:35.12Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r332 modules/TargetHealth.lua:
06:35.14Repo- unified icon configurations for the target health bar (pvp, raid, classification) and prettied up the options a bit
06:38.42sztanpetwhat do views do, and what column is which
06:39.27CryectViews are a filter on the data that it has collected
06:39.48CryectEach view can be set to display the rows differently and filter based on various settings
06:41.41Repo10grid-status-lifebloom: 03Azethoth * r40 / (2 files in 1 directory):
06:41.43sztanpetaw my dps is -2
06:41.44Repo-- Incorporate all of Pastamancer's code to improve the algorithm.
06:41.44CryectUnlike most addons where the data is all collated automatically into views like damage and healing. Recount 2 stores data as GUID vs GUID with Ability then amount, min/max, crits, etc
06:42.01Cryectthen filters the data based on the currently selected views
06:42.19doom0rhmmm, not looking forward to going through all the hunter addons
06:42.27sztanpetanyway to get petdmg and dps to be added to mine?
06:42.32Cryectno
06:42.44CryectOne of the many features not in
06:42.56sztanpetkay, looks nice tho
06:43.05Cryectyeah, just really busy
06:43.13Skellumrecount 2?
06:43.13Cryectso don't have much time to work on it often
06:43.20sztanpetyou dont like the config ui blizz gave you tho huh
06:43.35CryectConsider its been in development since PTR 2.4 for how little time I've had as well
06:44.05CryectWell, I've not had the time to look at that really
06:44.07doom0rthe blizz options ui is not something usefull for any actively modified config
06:44.17Cryectand as doom0r says
06:44.31doom0rit's great for a one time or rare change
06:44.41Cryectits a pain to get into
06:45.01Cryectalso I prefer to keep the same look through out the addon
06:45.21CryectI hate all the blizzard widget graphics
06:46.24Skellumcryect..you need an option in recount 2 turned on by default that makes it so if you're in #1 for DPS it flashes in big red letters on your screen YOU'RE WINNING!
06:46.42sztanpetohyes!
06:48.23sztanpetwowace still hangs huh
06:50.13doom0rL["Mage"] = "Top DPS"
06:50.28doom0r:P
06:50.40SkellumAfter 3.0.8, should be
06:50.46SkellumImo, FFB needs a nerf.
06:51.50Skellumtell me if I'm crazy, or very biased...I think affliction should be top DPS, not by much maybe 50-75, as it has the most difficulty being played.
06:52.27doom0ranyone use a hunter much, have any suggestions on MD spam, aspect bar, pet actions, range, shot timer mods?
06:54.06sztanpetwat
06:54.31Gngskonly need a macro for MD, keybinds for the rest
06:54.36sztanpetaye
06:54.46sztanpetand i use click2cast for md
06:54.53sztanpetuse it anyway for priest and druid
06:55.17Gngskc2c could be useful for adhoc MDs but usually a macro for focus/target/pet is good enough
06:55.30sztanpetsure, whatever you need
06:55.39sztanpetshot timer mods shouldnt be needed anyway
06:55.48Gngsknot since 3.0 anyway
06:55.54GngskI even hid my shot timer
06:56.14doom0ri still like to know when it's happening
06:56.35doom0rlittletrouble style
06:56.41doom0rwhich supposedly works
06:56.42sztanpetand Skellum affliction is just keep the dots up, destro is watching what buff you got on at the time and moving to the right thing to cast
06:57.00sztanpetso i dont personally think its the most difficult
06:57.13Gngskwell, i could see it being useful if you hid all actionbuttons
06:57.40doom0ri don't want to watch a button
06:58.05sztanpetwhat do you want to see doom0r, autoshot goes off even while channeling volley
06:58.16doom0rthat's why i'd use a range indicator and when autoshot is firing
06:58.42doom0rya, just want to know when it's going off
06:58.48doom0rsimple swing timer if you will
06:58.59sztanpetmy range indicatos is chinchillas range circle if i want to visually make sure, but usually i just feel it
06:59.23doom0rmmm, minimap is on the top right for me
06:59.53doom0ricehud's range indicator requires too much focus
07:00.09doom0rused to use nudge, don't know if it's accurate still
07:00.31doom0ridea is simple peripheral vision notification by color
07:00.32sztanpetmitch0 has a range indicator mod that uses text
07:00.45sztanpetdidnt really have a look at it
07:00.50doom0rya, reading is what i'm looking to avoid
07:01.47doom0rhow about PetOverlay, anyone used that?
07:01.55sztanpetwhat does that do
07:02.12doom0rmakes action frames that act like bet par slots
07:02.22doom0rkinda like you would with macros in macaroon
07:02.44doom0ri may just throw in macaroon and avoid it, since i'd have use for macaroon elsewhere too
07:03.31doom0rautocast overlay*
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07:04.57sztanpethttp://www.wowace.com/projects/range-display/ colors the text, so you dont need to read it
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07:15.24Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r333 modules/TargetInfo.lua:
07:15.27Repo- added settings to allow greater customization of buff/debuff frames in the TargetInfo module (grow direction, anchor points, offsets)
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07:24.50doom0rany good ammo reminders?
07:25.10doom0rsomething that doesn't overtake you, just lets you know, idiot, you're leaving town with low ammo?
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07:28.13Zyndromeflies into space
07:29.08doom0rcatches the bong Zyndrome knocked over
07:29.16doom0rthat's glass!
07:29.47Repo10acheron: 03Nickodemus_wow * r61 / (7 files in 2 directories):
07:29.50Repo- added option to automatically disable Acheron in PvP zones/bgs/arenas
07:29.53Repo- added version to main frame title and LDB tooltip
07:30.52Repo10buff-enough: 03Nickodemus_wow * r75 / (2 files in 1 directory): - added version to tooltip title
07:30.56Repo10debuff-enough: 03Nickodemus_wow * r17 / (2 files in 1 directory): - added version to tooltip title
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07:35.43doom0ranything to populate the stancebar in BT with aspects?
07:36.50Brunersmake a bar and put aspects on them ?
07:37.29Repo10debuff-enough: 03Nickodemus_wow 041.0.2 * r18 : Tagging as 1.0.2
07:37.53Repo10buff-enough: 03Nickodemus_wow 041.1.8 * r76 : Tagging as 1.1.8
07:38.03Repo10acheron: 03Nickodemus_wow 041.0.7 * r62 : Tagging as 1.0.7
07:38.38doom0rof course, but it's nice to not have to change everything so much per class
07:41.29Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r334 / (4 files in 1 directory):
07:41.31Repo- separated alpha settings for "OOC and target" and "OOC and not full"; existing user settings are preserved (target gets copied to the new Not Full setting) the first time this version (or later) of the addon is loaded by a user with existing settings
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07:46.43orionshock~wowalert
07:46.44purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
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07:48.52Brunersdoom0r: as aspects are not a stance in any way they should never appear on the stancebar
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07:49.46doom0rauras aren't stances
07:49.51doom0rthey're auras, as are aspects
07:50.08sztanpetseconded
07:50.20Brunersdoom0r: aspect is more like a buff
07:50.31sztanpetas are auras
07:51.02Brunersyou cant change aspects while mounted, but you can change auras
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07:51.13Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1853 Modules/WrathoftheLichKing/wrathofthelichking.lua: Typo fixed
07:51.49orionshockanyone remember a compilation site / addon reference site that started with "vx" ?
07:51.59Brunersanyway, i got popcorn, i win
07:54.32Brunersorionshock: vx-3r.kujyt.345.pl ?
07:55.01doom0rBruners: shadowform?
08:00.32Repo10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme * r18 / (3 files in 1 directory): EggTimer:
08:00.34Repo- tooltip working for FuBar, LibDataBroker and DBIcon
08:00.36Repo- (hopefully) embedded LibDataBroker-1.1 correctly
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08:08.52Brunersdoom0r: i can see why you want it to be on the stance bar
08:09.22doom0rshadowform is, isn't it?
08:09.28Brunersno idea
08:09.29doom0rand yet, you can't use it while mounted atm
08:09.39sztanpetit is i think
08:09.47doom0ralthough they're changing that next patch
08:09.58doom0rjust would be nice to come round full circle and make it consistent
08:10.06sztanpetyea
08:10.10doom0rfor someone that plays all classes, it would be welcomed
08:10.19Brunersyou could say the same for mage armors and warlock armors
08:10.25sztanpetid make trueshot aura a passive buff too
08:10.35Brunersdidnt they do that already ?
08:10.38doom0rthose have an expiring timer
08:10.52sztanpetdont think so
08:11.08Brunerswas sure i read something about truseshot aura getting changed
08:11.16nevcairielya the armors are all 30min buffs
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08:11.32sztanpetyou have to apply it, but it wont expiry
08:11.53Brunersthey could make trueshot aura like the DK auras
08:12.01Brunersits just there
08:12.19sztanpetyea but then if you make the aspects stances it would fuck with them
08:12.25CodayusIf we want to whine about class buffs, what about inner fire?  :-/
08:12.39doom0rnot whining about buffs
08:12.49doom0rtalking about passive toggled auras
08:12.56CodayusSame thing.  :-)
08:12.59sztanpetnah, it just seems kind of straight forward to make aspects stances
08:13.00doom0rand them not being integrated intot he stancbar
08:13.26CodayusBliz is all over the place with how to handle it.
08:13.56ThraeInner Fire was OP the minute Mages got it.
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08:15.57CodayusThrae: Hm?
08:16.01doom0rmmm, i need to choose a pet class for leveling
08:16.05doom0ri'm 46
08:16.23sztanpetgo with cats, theyr good for everything
08:16.35Brunersi would go with a cozy bear
08:18.38Aeyandoom0r: Ferocity
08:18.43AeyanBloodthirsty is the shit, hehe
08:19.24Brunersoh never seen that
08:19.30doom0rby class, i meant family
08:21.48Brunersferocity looks best really, dash, boar speed, and bloodthirsty
08:22.44Brunersat 44+ atleast
08:23.54doom0rwow @ bloodthirsty
08:23.57doom0rthat's awesome
08:24.42AeyanI'd go with devilsaur, cat or raptor
08:24.51AeyanIf you're just trying to min/max it for efficiency
08:25.32Brunerscant really get a devilsaur at level 46
08:26.15AeyanTrue, not until 54
08:26.52doom0ri think i'm gonna pickup a bear/gorilla, and a ferocity pet
08:27.00Brunersuhm, 51 point talents tells me you can get it at 60 ?
08:27.03AeyanThey're the technical best for a BM hunter
08:27.14AeyanOh, right, duh
08:27.18AeyanThe talent is necessary, heh
08:27.25AeyanLowest devilsaur level is 54
08:27.38AeyanGorillas can be fun
08:27.48AeyanStomp is good stuff
08:28.09Brunersnot like it really matters what pet you have while leveling
08:28.18AeyanBut, I still gotta give it up for bloodthirsty and the 9% crit
08:28.53doom0rBruners: yes, but it affects what you can get away with
08:28.53Brunersmaby i should level my hunter to 80
08:31.58doom0rmmm, thanks for the input, time to figure my spec now, then addons =\
08:32.26Repo10considerater: 03catamorfizm 07master * 0.7beta-2-gd67e33f / (3 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
08:32.28Repod67e33f: Add IsEquippableByPlayer() function and now it should not try to rate items which are not equippable by you.
08:32.31Repo5e45352: add libbabble-inventory
08:34.04Repo10scorchio2: 03ennuilg * r6 / (3 files in 2 directories): 0.9b3 - Added configuration option for bar text
08:34.06Repo0.9b3 - Added option to limit number of bars shown
08:35.28Repo10scorchio2: 03ennuilg 04v0.9 beta 3 * r7 : Tagging as v0.9 beta 3
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09:28.51omegaI remember an addon once that let me increase the max distance I could zoom out
09:28.55omegaanyone remeber the name?
09:30.16mitch0sec, I got it bookmarked I think
09:31.01mitch0http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8520-ImprovedCameraRedux.html
09:34.09Arrowmastertype '/console cameraDistanceMaxFactor 5' everytime you login
09:38.37Aiianeor make a macro for it :D
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09:39.52Repo10bartender4: 03tnt2ray 06bartender4-zh * r5 locale/zhCN.lua: Update zhCN
09:40.59Repo10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme * r19 / (4 files in 1 directory): EggTimer:
09:41.01Repo- fix embeds and pkgmeta
09:44.22omegathanks :p I'll see which one I end up with :)
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09:48.46Repo10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 * r51 locale.esES.lua: * Included Spanish localization from netoak.
09:50.33orionshockblizzard time is PST, so really any city in the PST zone works?
09:50.38Repo10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 042.6 * r52 : Tagging as 2.6
09:50.39orionshocklike LA
09:51.36ShefkiArrowmaster: You don't even have to type that everytime you log in.  As long as you log out properly it remembers that.
09:51.50Arrowmasterno it doesnt
09:52.10Arrowmastercvars are stored serverside and they validate them
09:52.28ShefkiWorks fine here.
09:52.37ShefkiAnd it's stored in config.wttf
09:52.37Arrowmasterunless you disable the serverside config that is, then it should save it
09:52.58Arrowmasteri know at first after 3.0 it wasnt saving
09:53.06Arrowmasterhavent really paid attention recently
09:53.12ShefkiI think I set my camera distance in TK for VR and haven't touched it since.
09:53.13Arrowmasterthey might have hotfixed it
09:53.19ThraeArrowmaster: Crap, I set one cvar to "Blizzard is full of idiots"
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09:54.39ElkanoThrae, is there still development going on wrt TinyTip?
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09:55.34ShefkiElkano: Is there a Blizzard issue that causes the tracking icon to show the wrong text in Elk Buff Bars sometimes?
09:56.10ThraeElkano: Whenever I restart my subscription, probably. I'm planning on gutting a lot of it and putting it back to a simple addon to see what works and what doesn't.
09:57.00ElkanoShefki, yeah, it's got to do with events not fireing as they should and functions being delayed in returning correct values :/
09:57.25ArrowmasterThrae: other than the config it works fine right now =D
09:57.32Arrowmasteralthough i dont use the targets module
09:57.56ShefkiElkano: k. :(
09:58.48Elkanomaybe adding a small delay will at least fix some of the problems but eg switching out of druids cat form doesn't trigger the event although you loose track humanoides
09:58.51KalrothDon't believe Elkano, it's really his fault!
09:59.04ShefkiYeah that's probably where I've noticed it.
09:59.42ShefkiElkano: Maybe just setting a var and updating on the next frame after the event would be good enough?
10:00.03ThraeShefki: Which event are you using?
10:00.16ShefkiI have no idea I haven't looked at the code.
10:00.45Fisker-lieks Elkano
10:01.16ElkanoThrae MINIMAP_UPDATE_TRACKING
10:01.27ThraeAhhh
10:01.43ThraeYeah, the Track Humanoids thing always seemed like a hack to me on Blizz's side.
10:02.06Arrowmasterit was
10:02.12Elkanomaybe I should just increase the bucket a bit, that should delay the update
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10:02.15ThraeI remember when it didn't automatically switch
10:02.16Repo- fix missing quote mark in embeds.xml /shakehead
10:02.26Arrowmasterwhen they first did it my lvl 31 druid was getting track humanoids everytime i went into cat form
10:02.38Arrowmasteryou get track humanoids at lvl 32
10:02.44ThraeYep, same here
10:03.02ThraeMust be cast at a low level in their code for that to happen.
10:03.08Elkanogetting the name is a hack anyways :/ I iterate over all trackings and return the name of the active one
10:03.10Thraecast and/or enabled
10:03.35ThraeElkano: Couldn't you also do it on Aura changes?
10:03.38Arrowmasterwell they fixed it, my druid is still lvl 31 and it doesnt happen anymore
10:05.38ThraeWait, if the event Elkano is talking about doesn't fire correctly for Druid tracking, that means when a Druid leaves Cat Form, wouldn't the Minimap also have a problem? But it doesn't, so hopefully there's some Lua magic and not C magic.
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10:07.15Repo10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme 04v0.2 * r21 :  (Message trimmed by 3 lines)
10:07.17RepoEggTimer:
10:07.20Repochanges since v0.1.3:
10:07.23Repo- tooltip for LibDataBroker, FuBar and DBIcon working!
10:07.26Repo- fixed embarassing issue with item detection
10:08.13ElkanoThrae, for me, the minimap button bugs, too
10:08.48ThraeOh, well then that's all Blizzard's problem. It's really bad when their own addon breaks from their own code ;)
10:12.35Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r1854 / (6 files in 6 directories): - Updated format for Ahn'kahet and Azjol-Nerub
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10:16.21Fisker-is cold :(
10:16.47mitch0does anyone have any idea why my remote console (windows -> putty -> linux -> ssh -> linux) doesn't let me type 'm'? (it beeps on me). I can type it fine as ^Vm
10:17.04Repo10procodile: 03Zarnivoop * r69 / (3 files in 2 directories): Color of announcement as option
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10:19.22mitch0erm, I managed to kill my tunnel :)
10:19.32Brunersmitch0: wierd charset without m ? :P
10:20.06SunTsumitch0: Looks like it is interpreted as a control char
10:20.16mitch0yeah, but why?
10:20.28mitch0I guess it's a broken termcap for "screen"
10:20.29SunTsumitch0: You will have to retrace your steps to where it is misinterpreted
10:20.39mitch0it's on the last host
10:21.12mitch0hm. and it only happens in bash...
10:21.26mitch0and not when I'm in a local screen on the last host
10:21.39mitch0funny
10:21.54Arrowmasterlist that chain again but with where you are using screen inserted
10:23.01mitch0windows -> putty -> linux (screen) -> ssh -> linux
10:23.06mitch0and the problem is on the last linux box
10:23.09mitch0and only in bash
10:23.19mitch0and only if I don't start a screen there too :)
10:23.41Arrowmasterso if you connect directly to the last host and start screen on it you have the problem?
10:23.43smoke_why you using screen?
10:23.47mitch0no, that last one is false
10:23.49SunTsumitch0: Yeah, looks like you have different TERM settings which conflict
10:23.51smoke_to fork the terminal?
10:23.57mitch0I seemed to have zsh running in that screen
10:24.03mitch0so the problem seems to be with bash there
10:24.08smoke_type echo $TERM
10:24.16mitch0screen
10:24.16smoke_on both sides
10:24.27smoke_see if they return the same values?
10:24.30mitch0but it doesn't matter (I tried TERM=vt100, no effect
10:24.31Arrowmasterit does sound like it could be a termcap/terminfo problem
10:24.48mitch0as I said, no probs with zsh/tcsh, only bash
10:25.13SunTsuArrowmaster: Yeah, probably
10:25.33mitch0eh. it only happens in bash, with editing-mode=emacs :)
10:25.40mitch0editing-mode=vi works
10:25.49mitch0oh well, I prefer vi anyway :)
10:26.01smoke_i hate emacs
10:26.12Arrowmasterive never even used editing-mode=emacs since i dont have a clue how to do anything in emacs
10:26.30SunTsuMe too, but still I prefer emacs line editing in my shells
10:26.36mitch0arrow: that's the default editing-mode in most systems
10:27.04Arrowmasterhmm
10:27.15mitch0try set -o vi and see if you manage :)
10:27.28mitch0(it's the best thing since sliced bread, but a bit tricky at first)
10:27.53Arrowmasteri dont see a difference
10:28.01mitch0try pressing ESC
10:28.19mitch0and use cw, dw, d$ etc
10:28.25mitch0oh well, whatever
10:28.25Arrowmastermake it stop
10:28.34mitch0& (coffee)
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10:28.55mitch0arrow: and make sure you get rid of you caps-lock key and properly remap it to ctrl :)
10:29.12Arrowmasternot like i ever use capslock
10:29.20mitch0you would, if it were ctrl
10:29.29mitch0much easier to press with the pinky
10:30.05Arrowmastermost things i press with ctrl are all on the bottem row anyway
10:30.12mitch0so?
10:30.15Arrowmasterx c and v
10:30.24mitch0do you touch-type?
10:30.28Arrowmasteryes
10:30.31mitch0the try it
10:30.39mitch0(the caps-lock as ctrl thing)
10:30.44mitch0much much more convenient
10:31.04mitch0bit tricky to do on windows (regedit), but pretty straightforward in linux
10:31.19Arrowmasterseems perty easy to do with windows
10:31.30Arrowmasteri have a keymap editor
10:31.33mitch0eh ;)
10:31.35mitch0cheater
10:31.45mitch0aaanyway, bbl
10:31.57Arrowmasteri has an altgr without deadkeys
10:32.32Brunerswhat is good with eggs when you dont have bacon ?
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11:13.11mitch0didum
11:13.57mitch0is this reward thingy working already?
11:14.58sztanpetno
11:15.28mitch0alright, then I'm not so sad that I have 0 points ;)
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11:18.18mitch0oh, btw, has the InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory bug been fixed?
11:20.36SunTsumitch0: curse you, you made me fix my keyboard/umlauts problem
11:21.37mitch0huh?
11:22.09Repo10auto-invite: 03idefix6 * r29 / (5 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
11:22.11RepoAdded DeathKnight.
11:22.13RepoThe list is now sorted when you click on sort.
11:22.16RepoSet the correct color for the death knight.
11:22.18RepoChanged scroll list to change WoW API. That fixed the bug when you try to scroll the complete list.
11:22.26SunTsumitch0: By having terminal setting issues you made me think about my own terminal issus ;)
11:22.33mitch0hehe
11:22.55mitch0I'm sure your problem was not as esoteric as mine :)
11:25.42Repo10aspectinspect: 03Pericles * r41 / (2 files in 1 directory): AspectInspect: -
11:25.45RepoVersion 0.16 - Added disable addon code if character isn't a hunter
11:28.00Zyndromehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4
11:28.08ZyndromeI better stop yelling at my peice of shit hardware then...
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11:40.45RepoAdded DeathKnight.
11:40.47RepoThe list is now sorted when you click on sort.
11:40.50RepoSet the correct color for the death knight.
11:40.53RepoChanged scroll list to change WoW API. That fixed the bug when you try to scroll the complete list.
11:42.05Repo10auto-invite: 03idefix6 04v1.82a * r31 :  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
11:42.07RepoAdded DeathKnight.
11:42.09RepoThe list is now sorted when you click on sort.
11:42.12RepoSet the correct color for the death knight.
11:42.14RepoChanged scroll list to change WoW API. That fixed the bug when you try to scroll the complete list.
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11:43.38Elkanoyou know that WoW hates you when Archavon drops two priest items, no priest is in raid und you are the 'lucky' person that gets them :/
11:43.48EthanCentauraigood morning Vhaarr
11:43.54vhaarrheyho
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11:46.09Pneumatusall achavon drops will be for class/spec combos you dont have in your raid, fact!
11:47.42Brunersindeed
11:48.03ZyndromeI call shenanigans
11:48.17Zyndromedives for cover due to the rain of hunter-peices ... but where are the hunters?
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11:53.48`-FISKER_QWhat does it drop when you got all combos then Pneumatus ?
11:54.12Pneumatus12 frostweave cloth
11:55.54Bruners`-FISKER_Q: things everyone already got
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12:40.28Repo10procodile: 03Zarnivoop * r70 / (2 files in 2 directories): DPS/max/min/avg measurements
12:44.13mitch0just out of curiousity, why are these commits killing the site so much?
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12:50.07quiescensrun awai~
12:53.07WobWorkElkano: By 'getting' the priest drops, this invalidates you for the next 5 runs for your drops cause you 'got something'
12:53.20WobWorkFact!
12:53.37Elkanoluckily, it wasn't me ^^ and it was a random group ^^
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13:03.43thuleller i still like your buffbars.
13:06.38Repo10procodile: 03Zarnivoop 043.0-10 * r71 :
13:06.41RepoDPS/min/max/avg hit measurements. Announcement message text colors customizable.
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14:09.39onaforeignshorehow long does it take for your addon to appear on the Curse Client/
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14:12.35Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Elkano * r122 / (4 files in 3 directories): [dataminer] make it work once again
14:12.38Repo[InstanceLoot/Heroic] remined WotLK
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14:26.19onaforeignshoreanyone alive in here? :p
14:26.37Groktardevours onaforeignshore's liver
14:26.48nevcairielonaforeignshore: usually it doesnt take long, but syncing to Curse is currently broken. they hopefully get it fixed today, though.
14:27.04Groktari heard the script runs every 20 minutes?
14:27.04onaforeignshorethat would explain it :) thanks
14:27.17onaforeignshoreat least I have my first addon online now :)
14:27.41Repo10sell-junk: 03CrazyBenny * r49 / (3 files in 1 directory): added missing libstub
14:27.55Groktarshow it to arrowmaster
14:28.10Groktarsee if he says rude things about it
14:28.33onaforeignshorepokes arrowmaster
14:29.45ZhinjioGroktar: its supposed to run every 5 minutes
14:29.51onaforeignshorepokes Groktar
14:30.36Groktaro
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14:31.14Repo10head-count: 03seppyk 041.3.9 * r66 : Tagging as 1.3.9
14:32.15onaforeignshore2 quick questions... how do you tag an addon? (1.3.9) and how do you get the release versions to say r66?
14:33.01nevcairielsvn just numbers all commits to the repository
14:33.27Repo10sell-junk: 03CrazyBenny 042.0.5 * r50 : Tagging as 2.0.5
14:33.55nevcairieland tagging, you can either do it through the website, or with your VCS of choice
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14:42.02Repo10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r726 AceDBOptions-3.0/AceDBOptions-3.0.lua:
14:42.04RepoAceDBOptions-3.0: Disable the "Copy From" and "Delete" dropdowns if there are no profiles to choose from.
14:42.06RepoCloses Ticket #19
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14:47.15Pneumatusonaforeignshore: if you want to release rXX you can either just change the type of the zips on the website, or tag at rXX
14:49.47onaforeignshoreI'm using msysgit so I still need to learn all the options, esp. since the GUI doesn't seem to have anywhere to change the settings
14:50.06nevcairielgit tag -a 1.3.9
14:50.08nevcairielits simple =P
14:50.15SunTsuonaforeignshore: CC Alpha didn't work for me on Wine@FreeBSD. It got stuck while scanning directories
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14:55.59onaforeignshoreSunTsu: CC? crowd control?
14:56.07nevcairielCurse Client
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14:56.25onaforeignshoresorry, blonde moment hehehe
14:56.57SunTsuonaforeignshore: If I am not mistaken, it was you who gave me the URL ;)
14:58.47thuli just dislike people that use oncamera direct flash
15:01.59Cheadshow are the Curse client alphas going? any news? =)
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15:07.44ZenomIs anyone getting the patch when they login? I saw people speculating again that its coming today, but I'm not getting it.
15:07.47ZenomSo figured I would ask.
15:07.56viisual|workI've read it's not.
15:08.00nevcairielpeople speculate every maintenance day
15:08.07nevcairielthe PTR build still has alot of bugs
15:08.21nevcairieland EU has a live maintenance announced
15:08.25nevcairielno patchy :P
15:08.29Zenomkk :)
15:08.37thulis it maintenance this week?
15:08.49nevcairielEU only gets rolling restarts
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15:13.31Zenomhttp://www.hdimage.org/images/fj5bqzpz3s8gr5kw22fb_303nagiv14raid.jpg
15:13.37Zenomi don't know how people can play like that
15:13.44ZenomSo much stuff on the screen.
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15:16.24sztanpetyou think thats much
15:16.50nevcairielthats really not "much"
15:16.50sztanpethttp://kepfeltoltes.hu/090104/WoWScrnShot_010309_193843_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg
15:17.11nevcairieli've seen worse =P
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15:19.54Elkanotwo screenshots; both feature EBB; I conclude I reached 100% distribution... time to activate the hidden code and take over the world *muharrharr*
15:20.17sacarascEBB?
15:20.38nevcairieli cant be sure what bar addon is on the first screenshot
15:20.44nevcairielbut second uses bartender, too
15:21.23ElkanoElkBuffBars
15:21.42Repo10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.2.3 Bartender4.toc: [+1 commit] Update version number
15:21.46Repo10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 044.2.3 * e6ec692 /: [new tag] Tag as 4.2.3
15:22.58Pneumatushttp://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9156/wowscrnshot101407130246ml3.jpg
15:23.02Pneumatusbest ui ever ^^
15:23.18nevcairielhey he uses hotcandy
15:23.25ZenomPneumatus: holy shit thats horrible.
15:24.14ph0bicthey cant always fight with all that up, they must hide some, and just have it all up for the screenshot
15:24.19viisual|workFind a picture of a 40 raid.
15:24.20Repo10proculas: 03Xocide * r119 Options.lua: Updated display of some of the things in the options panel.
15:24.39Pneumatusnevcairiel: he also has a 2nd hot montor hidden under grid :o
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15:26.58Meatgrinder accident destroys your testicles
15:28.28sacarascshit
15:28.30sacarascnot again
15:28.32kenlyricI don't think you understand the grammatcal structure of the /me command
15:29.05Meati think you can't spell
15:29.22kenlyricyou mean type
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15:47.06Repo10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r122 / (5 files in 2 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0:
15:47.08Repo- Until there is an official LibGlory-3.0 I will put my version here for Broker_BattlegroundFu to use
15:47.37syerenAnyone here able to give me a decent refrence on how to center content both horizontally and vertically with CSS?
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15:48.15nevcairielI can tell you that much, you need a specific rule for every browser
15:48.37sztanpetalign: middle, vertical-align: center
15:49.01sztanpetmight need a margin: 50% tho, yea
15:49.15sztanpetanyway, google knows more
15:49.21sztanpetwant a link?
15:49.27syerenBeen trying google :<
15:49.38syeren#container { width: 100%; height: 100%; display:table; }
15:49.38syeren#position { display:table-cell; vertical-align: middle; width: 100%; text-align: center; }
15:49.42syerenIsn't even working :<
15:51.31mitch0erm, how do I link to the API page from my Main page on wowace/pages? (preferably with CurseWiki formatting)
15:53.03mitch0[[API]] doesn't seem to work
15:56.40Sliker_Hawksyeren: this probably only centres to the entire page but it might work:
15:56.40Sliker_Hawk.elementToCentre { height: 234px; width: 200px; position: absolute; top: 50%; left: 50%; margin-top: -117px; margin-left: -100px; }
15:57.00Sliker_Hawknegative margins need to be half the height/width
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15:59.32syerenWorked thanks.
15:59.35syerenWell, I took some code from it :p
16:03.13Repo10calendar_broker: 03LordFarlander 043.0.7-beta * r7 : Tagging as 3.0.7-beta
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16:12.20Repo10broker_battlegroundfu: 03LordFarlander * r2 / (17 files in 3 directories): Broker_BattlegroundFu
16:12.23Repo- Initial checkin on 3.0
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16:20.55AckisWorkwrong channel Pneumatus
16:21.09Pneumatusso it was
16:21.14Pneumatusthat will teach me to not pay attention
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16:41.43Repo10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r132 / (2 files in 2 directories): Coconuts:
16:41.46Repo- Command line mount summoning is now hierarchical, still need to add passenger mounts and automatic mode
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16:54.51ZOASQuiet in here
16:55.10mortdrops a needle
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16:57.00SunTsumany: Yeah, totally, until you hit Sholazar
16:58.12steevwoo servar back up
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17:09.53NivFreakbooo to no patch
17:10.06steevagreed niv
17:10.24steevi want to log in and find out how many arena points i got this week
17:10.36steevfinally got over 1550 team
17:11.01Skellumhttp://www.wimp.com/hovershoes/ Hover shoes :O
17:11.21viisual|worksteev, what bracket?
17:13.18viisual|workSteev, 305/353/401 Arena Points, respectively.
17:14.32steevviisual|work: 2v2
17:14.41viisual|work205 then ;)
17:14.43viisual|work305
17:14.47steevspiffy
17:14.50steevthat puts me at 600
17:15.08steevand i can buy... nothing
17:15.21viisual|workkeep savin'
17:15.31steevoh i will
17:15.38steevgot world wide winner last night
17:17.47Skellumnice
17:23.34PrimerIt seems my raid leader (mind you, the leader of my guild's "scrub" raid) was pissed to discover I spent my valor tokens to get the epic pvp shoulders
17:24.00PrimerThis despite the fact that I've been pulling top DPS on boss fights
17:24.17Skellumyou know those valor token wrists are boe?
17:24.17Primerwhat seems to escape him is the fact that I _love_ pvp...and he hates it
17:24.28RaydenUhe was upset that you spent gear on something he doesn't approve of?
17:24.42RaydenUsomething that doesn't help raid progression?
17:24.45ZaoIt's raiding. It's not supposed to be fun.
17:25.08PrimerI can understand if it was a T7/7.5 token being exchanged for a pvp item (yes, I know there's currently no such thing)
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17:25.41Primerbut his claims were that "the guild is supplying the run and you need to do everything you can to gear up for raids"
17:25.51PrimerI simply couldn't understand his reasoning
17:25.58RaydenUi can see how it makes sense
17:26.06RaydenUyou are using the raid to progress your non-raid activities
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17:26.22RaydenUif someone else got the gear they would probably be getting raid gear that would help the raid
17:26.30Primerexcept I've run plenty of other raids (Sarth, VoA) without the guild
17:26.32RaydenUso in terms of the raid, you buying pvp gear was a waste
17:26.40PrimerI've even gotten the spoils bag from 25 man Sarth
17:26.54Primerheh, they're MY tokens
17:27.07PrimerI should say that it's my prerogative
17:27.10RaydenUtrue
17:27.29RaydenUi'm just saying i can see how the expectation that you use your raid-earned gear to help the raid is not unreasonable
17:27.31Primerespecially since the first 25 man Naxx runs we did were pugs
17:27.51RaydenUservers are back up
17:27.53RaydenUand no patch
17:28.00Primerwell, I've used the fact that the first tokens I've received were "out of guild"
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17:28.07Primerand hence, expendable as I saw fit
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17:28.16RaydenUif you were organizing a guild raid run
17:28.29RaydenUwould you take people who would get gear that progresses the raid, or use it for pvp?
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17:29.00RaydenUit's all about expectations
17:29.06PrimerLike I said, I would not want tier tokens spent on pvp gear...but badges? Do with them as you wish
17:29.07RaydenUnothing inherently wrong with you buying what you want with your gear
17:29.11RaydenUbut if there is an expectation
17:29.24PrimerHe never made that clear in the beginning
17:29.41durcynmost of the badge items are junk compared to 25-man drops anyway
17:30.16Primerexcept for the T7.5 shoulders and pants
17:30.25PrimerI already have the pants from 25 man VoA
17:30.38PrimerI spent 30 badges getting the pvp shoulders
17:30.38RaydenUoh badge stuff
17:30.43Primerand this was the problem
17:30.44RaydenUlike you collect from heroics and what not?
17:30.47Primerno
17:30.53Primeronly from 25 man raids
17:31.04Primerthose are the ones I'm talking about
17:31.14durcynvalor, not heroism.  point remains though, they're filler items for things you can't get to drop, nowhere near best in slot
17:31.18durcynso who cares
17:31.19RaydenUthe game makes pvp stuff available from them
17:31.31RaydenUif your raid leader doesn't want you spending them on those, then he should specify
17:31.34PrimerThe T7.5 shoulders drop in Naxx
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17:32.56Skellum"[11:26] <Primer> heh, they're MY tokens" I would argue that that is untrue.
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17:33.18PrimerI'm considering the tokens I received at the beginning of the game mine
17:33.23Primeras they mostly came from PUGs
17:33.34SkellumBut, I need to cook lunch, So I'm arguing nothing :)
17:33.35RaydenUagain
17:33.37PrimerI PUG 25 man VoA and OS every week
17:33.38RaydenUit's about expectations
17:33.42RaydenUthey can either be yours, or the guild's
17:33.45RaydenUdepends
17:33.48Primeras my guild runs those on times where I can't make it
17:34.26Primeras a compromise, acknowledging what you've just written, I promised him I'd spend my remaining badges on T7.5 shoulders
17:34.52Primeras this current balance of token have been acquired mostly from guild Naxx runs
17:35.03Primerthing is, I'm going to start keeping track of them
17:35.35Primer"This week, X number of tokens came from 25 man VoA and OS, and hence go towards my PVP gear"
17:35.51Primertechnicality, but, whatever
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17:36.35PrimerI don't think it's wrong to enjoy both raiding and pvp equally, and I don't want to have to put up with bias
17:39.09Fisker-Any addon that auto-combatlogs?
17:43.16steevthere used to be
17:43.25steevautolog or some shit
17:44.04durcynloggerhead
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17:50.35steevwoo
17:50.41steevgot 320 actually
17:50.55steevcuz i was at 304
17:51.00steevand im at 624 arena points
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17:51.57PneumatusFisker-: LoggerHead
17:52.13steevsnap, i just need to get to 1615 rating to get the hateful gloves
17:55.11Skellumhttp://www.wimp.com/matrixolympics/ wtf is wrong with you japan?
17:56.56Camcirofl
17:57.18AckisWork~wownpc 32379
17:57.19purlhttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=32379 http://www.wowdb.com/npc.aspx?id=32379
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18:20.52digmouse~seen Kameril
18:20.53purlkameril <n=dssd@c-75-70-79-137.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 330d 21h 20m 46s ago, saying: 'mikma: it's a possibility, i'll add it to my list, but it's fairly low priority right now ;]'.
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18:21.03digmouse.... hey what
18:21.27AckisWorkdigmouse: have you seen the new translation system for wowace/curseforge?
18:21.52digmouseI've used it several times, it's good, any proble ackis?
18:22.00digmouse*problem
18:22.26AckisWorkjust was curious
18:22.27AckisWork:)
18:22.34AckisWorkhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/localization/ look at how many strings I have lol
18:23.34Repo10critmiester: 03Xocide * r12 CritmeisterLDB.lua: Some changes to the LDB Tooltip.
18:23.38steevi can translate to ebonics if need be
18:23.49digmouselol, but shouldnt be a pain with the import system
18:23.51NeoTronhow useful
18:24.25steevenEB :-P
18:24.31RaydenUdo want
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18:26.14steevdamn it i broke my interface
18:26.26AckisWorkdigmouse: it's actaully pretty easy with the import
18:26.28AckisWorkand export
18:26.53AckisWorkI made about 5 tickets for enhancements for it
18:27.07digmouseyeah, but I took several tries to figure out that only the main trunk of locales is needed lol
18:27.56Pkekyo|"The Australian woman didn't care much for her husband hugging another woman, and proceded to set his penis on fire. The man later died from the injuries."
18:27.56Pkekyo|FUCKING EPIC
18:27.59AckisWork@ticket curseforge 1020
18:28.00RepoAckisWork: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1020 - Allow localization phrases to be grouped (optionally). Reported by: Ackis. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 19 hours ago. Component: Localization. Status: Accepted. Priority: Medium. Assignee: ckknight. Votes: 0. Comments: 0
18:28.05AckisWork@ticket curseforge 1022
18:28.06AckisWork@ticket curseforge 1023
18:28.06RepoAckisWork: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1022 - Remove error for missing translations, instead just warn. Reported by: Ackis. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 19 hours ago. Component: Localization. Status: Accepted. Priority: Medium. Assignee: ckknight. Votes: 0. Comments: 0
18:28.07AckisWork@ticket curseforge 1024
18:28.07RepoAckisWork: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1023 - Header/footer for localization files. Reported by: Ackis. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 19 hours ago. Component: Localization. Status: Accepted. Priority: Medium. Assignee: ckknight. Votes: 0. Comments: 0
18:28.09RepoAckisWork: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1024 - Auto-generate locale files for a project. Reported by: Ackis. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 19 hours ago. Component: Localization. Status: Accepted. Priority: Medium. Assignee: ckknight. Votes: 0. Comments: 0
18:28.23AckisWorktake a look at those 4 tickets digmouse
18:28.33StanzillaSpamckisWork
18:29.29steevPkekyo|: linkage
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18:29.53Repo10proculas: 03Xocide * r120 Core.lua: Few tweaks and fixes.
18:30.14digmouseheader and footer stand for things like "--AckisRecipeList zhCN translated by Kurax" ?
18:30.38AckisWorkdigmouse: aye exactly
18:30.41digmouseor "local L = LibStub("AceLocale-3.0")" blah blah
18:30.44digmousek
18:30.49Pkekyo|steev: translating a localized article
18:30.56Pkekyo|"I just wanted to burn his penis, since it belongs to me and nobody else."
18:31.04Pkekyo|it caused a fire that cost them (or her, as the lad died) and their neighbours about 700k USD
18:31.04Pkekyo|:p
18:31.14AckisWorkdigmouse: it could be both (my intent actually)
18:31.17digmouseand auto generate is adding function locals to the locale to make it completed?
18:31.38AckisWorkyes
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18:31.52MegalonPkekyo|: did she use a flamethrower or wtf?
18:31.53digmousegood enhancement :D
18:31.55Repo10procodile: 03Zarnivoop * r73 Options.lua: Fix for configuration window bugging out
18:32.21Repo10procodile: 03Zarnivoop 043.0-11 * r74 : Fixed a bug, added some embroideries.
18:32.54Pkekyo|Megalon: no, she doused his pecker in liquor when he was sleeping and then set him on fire... he was logically enough moving about a bit after she lit him up and knocked over the bottle of booze she'd used to ignite him...which then ignited their entire house :
18:32.55Pkekyo|:p
18:33.39Megalonwhat a pity that she survived it instead of him
18:34.14Pkekyo|well, I wouldn't want to survive an incident left with only a charcoal fizzlestick where my penor once used to be :P
18:35.21Pkekyo|she's facing charges of arson, premeditated murder and endangering the lives of their three children that was in the house at the time
18:36.41Megalonomg, if stupidity would just inflict so much pain that you would cry yourself to death
18:36.42Megalon:S
18:37.05Pkekyo|:D
18:38.08Megalonoh, found a link
18:38.09Megalonhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090105/wl_asia_afp/australiasexcrimefire
18:38.14Megalonthat is so wtf
18:38.28Pkekyo|aye
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18:48.10HirsuteYou want funny?  Check out http://www.theonion.com/content/video/apple_introduces_revolutionary
18:49.14Pkekyo|meh, sod apple
18:49.31HirsutePkekyo|: You'll enjoy that link, if that's how you feel about Apple
18:49.55Pkekyo|I'm so fucking sick of apple I even hate parodies now :p
18:50.20Hirsute*shrug*
18:51.38Pkekyo|:p
18:51.49Pkekyo|tbh, apple fanboys makes me want to dropkick babies
18:53.33AckisWork@project curseforge
18:53.34RepoAckisWork: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/. CurseForge.com. Kaelten (Manager/Author), ckknight (Author), Ackis (Ticket Manager). Updated: 266 days ago. Tickets: 223/1029
18:53.36Matrix110I love it how Apple sells a less features as a feature, like a non removeable battery in the new Macbook they announced
18:53.52Pkekyo|indeed
18:54.04Pkekyo|it's brilliantly dumnb
18:54.06Pkekyo|dumb*
18:54.47Matrix110Or the Macbook Air insanely expensive, no connectors and as big as others but WAIT ITS THIN!!!!!
18:55.16durcynit'll be interesting to see what happens to the lithium polymer batteries after a few years
18:55.39Matrix110durcyn they suffer the same capacity loss as other batteries
18:57.13Matrix110so after 2 years you run around with a 40% max capacity battery or even worse and they charge you 500$ to replace it awesomeness I want that!
18:58.09Matrix110and Lipo batterys react allergic to everything possible
18:59.03Matrix110heat over 60°C = cell dies 0% capacity = cell looses ALOT capacity, 100% capacity for longer periods = cell looses capacity
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19:01.35Repo10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r123 / (2 files in 1 directory): LibLordFarlander-2.0:
19:01.37Repo- Update the data miner
19:01.40Repo- Update the database
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19:04.00Repo10proculas: 03Xocide * r121 / (3 files in 1 directory): Code cleanup, few more fixes.
19:05.01mitchnullthat always makes me smile
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19:07.02ZealotOnAStickhow goes Tekkub?
19:07.15Tekkubmeh
19:07.51mitchnulltekkub: hey!
19:09.18mitchnulltekkub: about the LDB license issue, I understand that "you don't do licenses", but that doesn't make the thing (licensing in general) pop out of existence... how hard would it be to stick something on the damn stuff so that law-abiding folks could sleep well if they want to use/distribute your addon? :)
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19:11.40nevcairielYou're not breaking any law if you use/distribute it
19:12.08mitchnullerm, yes I do
19:12.16nevcairielno, you dont
19:12.17mitchnullcopyright law
19:12.50nevcairielIts happening in his conscent, copyright law doesnt apply
19:13.09mitchnulloh well
19:13.24mitchnullwould still be cleaner... just place it in PD then...
19:13.47nevcairieldo you use any of my addons? they are all "All rights reserved"
19:14.32mitchnullusing is different (as an end user)
19:14.34Repo10proculas: 03Xocide * r122 Core.lua:
19:14.36RepoPossibly fixed the bug to do with the Item Proc Stats Tooltip.
19:14.50nevcairielI could still tell you, that as of this moment you are no alonger alowed to
19:15.23nevcairielbut why would i
19:15.31mitchnullbut but, I like BT4!
19:15.59Matrix110We are minutes away from a World First kill!!!! nevcairiel pops up: You all are not longer allowed to use BT4 "Uh, what are we going todo with messed up Blizzard Bars!?!?!?"
19:16.00mitchnull(nah, actually I stopped playing for a while, but I did like BT4 :)
19:16.11nevcairiellol Matrix110
19:16.19nevcairielas if anyone on the internet cares
19:16.19Repo10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r124 / (2 files in 2 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0:
19:16.22Repo- Update the database
19:16.23Matrix110:D
19:16.24nevcairieli should add a killswitch into bt4 :D
19:17.03mitchnullnev: anyway, I'm a developer @work, so I kinda feel distressed to use unlicensed code. but meh..
19:17.52NivFreaknevcairiel: it seems like that would be difficult
19:18.18nevcairielI log on the server, send the kill command via addon msg, bt4 broken
19:18.19nevcairielwin!
19:18.36mitchnullcheck the source quickly
19:18.38NivFreakhaha
19:19.02NivFreakI sold bt4 to the chinese government
19:19.06NivFreaksorry
19:19.12gixgonna go when the volcano blows \o/
19:19.26nevcairielgix: what did you do, die in the first minute? =P
19:19.40NivFreakI got that in 10man as MT
19:19.46NivFreakdon't think I have in 25man
19:19.48nevcairielyeah tanks get is easily
19:19.51gixnevcairiel: no, i stayed alive
19:19.57nevcairielthe damn volcanos dont hit the tank
19:20.00gixwas even with 3 drakes up
19:20.03gixbut my damage was shit :(
19:20.07NivFreaknevcairiel: I tend to get hit by them before we pull
19:20.07NivFreakhaha
19:20.31nevcairielat first we all thought it would be "dont get hit by lava waves"
19:20.34nevcairielbut that wasnt it =P
19:20.47NivFreakI'd have that serveral times over if it was
19:20.56nevcairielindeed
19:21.11nevcairielanyway, i'll go take a shower
19:22.23NeoTronnevcairiel: I disagree
19:22.24gixmaybe i was really lucky. but it seemed to be easier if you stay away from the rest of the group, near the platform edges.
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19:22.35NeoTronwas tanking sartharion and got hit in the last 5 secondas from behind
19:22.39NeoTronhad no time to react. :/
19:22.56Arrowmasterour tank got that on heroic the first time we did sarth, but it was only 1 drake
19:23.07NeoTronif it comes down to only needing that one though, I'll just die and do it
19:23.42Arrowmasterdoes it only count if you get hit while in combat?
19:23.50durcynit counts if you get hit at all ever
19:23.54durcynand doesn't reset on a wipe
19:24.05Arrowmasterwow
19:24.17durcynbut badly coded achievements aren't new
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19:24.29gixof course it does reset. or do you mean without leaving and reentering the instance?
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19:28.23Xinhuanit resets
19:28.35Xinhuani completed it after a wipe before
19:31.25steevwhat achievement?
19:31.49Fisker-you can't wipe on sartharion anyways
19:31.52Fisker-also
19:31.54steevsrsly
19:31.57Fisker-i did it without dying :O
19:31.58steevwho the hell wipes on sarth
19:32.12Fisker-i was liek "zomg wtf"?
19:38.30durcynsteev: plenty of people attempting twilight zone.
19:40.02Xinhuan^
19:40.18Arrowmasterhardest content in the game
19:41.13steevi suppose it would be - i haven't attempted myself yet
19:41.16steevI'm currently trying to work towards the "of the Alliance" title
19:41.32steevI have a loooooooooooong way to go *sigh*
19:42.42steevgmail takes forever when you try to mark 20k emails as read :(
19:43.40ArrowmasterXinhuan has that i think
19:44.05Xinhuanyes but i have it easy
19:44.11Xinhuansimply by being rank 14
19:44.33Arrowmasteryour a mage, and you probably farmed AV back before AB existed
19:44.50Xinhuancorrect
19:45.04Arrowmasterthe original top pvp mage on my server had over 100k HKs before AB was released
19:45.13Xinhuanbut its impossible for anyone that is rank 14 not to have 100k HKs
19:45.19Xinhuaneven a paladin ;p
19:45.41Arrowmasterim only at 24k, but i didnt pvp that hard back in the day
19:45.43nevcairielI was in the army during the big pvp rush, or i would've been rank 14 .. after i got out, the patch was out that stripped the ranks
19:45.49Arrowmasterjust enough to keep getting the free pots
19:45.57Xinhuani need a horde to let me kill him 10 times in each WG subzone
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19:46.51steevi only made knight lieutenant or maybe its just knight on my rogue
19:46.58steevbut i started late in the game
19:47.13XinhuanDiao are you up for it lol
19:47.18steevmy rogue has 3 ticking presents in his bank
19:47.20Arrowmasterim only the 2nd officier rank, blood guard
19:47.38Arrowmastersteev: i have 3 ticking presents on a couple different characters
19:48.00steevpeople in the guild were complaining about the timer on the greench so i never opened mine heh
19:48.12steevmy shaman has 2
19:48.21steevmy pally would, except i re-created it as a female
19:48.29Arrowmasteroh wait, 3 on warlock and rogue, 2 on pally
19:48.32steevafter i decided to stop being a twink
19:48.36Matrix110You use it in BWL back in the days and it goes on rampage and pulls trash packs
19:48.38Matrix110its awesome
19:48.55steevill let it tank ony!
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19:49.09Arrowmasterno you use it in ZG back in the day and it tanks hakkar for you
19:49.16nevcairiellol
19:49.21Arrowmasteri still have that video somewhere
19:49.33nevcairieli should go and solo ZG sometime
19:49.36nevcairielwonder if thats possible
19:49.46Matrix110as a Druid/Pala yes
19:49.46ArrowmasterPProvost needs a new cloak
19:50.11nevcairielI'm a druid, so thats fine
19:50.15Matrix110Not sure about Hakkar or Hexxer though
19:50.18Matrix110but others np
19:50.22nevcairielI mostly want the raptor
19:50.24nevcairielanyway
19:50.25nevcairiel:P
19:50.30PProvostArrowmaster: probably
19:50.46Arrowmasterstupid raptors
19:50.54steevit is nev
19:50.57Arrowmasteri have a zg raptor but cant use it
19:50.59steevi did it on my dk
19:51.02Arrowmastergets stuck everywhere
19:51.02nevcairielwhy not?
19:51.04nevcairiellol
19:51.07steevbut i dunno what can't be soloed as a dk
19:51.20nevcairieli always get sad if they give premades on the PTR the raptor again
19:51.20steevoh wait
19:51.25steevthe elites in icecrown can't
19:51.29steevstill kinda pissed about that
19:51.42steevi was 2 hk's away from wrecking ball and died to an elite there
19:51.55steever, kb's
19:51.57steevnot hks
19:52.33nevcairielisnt wrecking ball inside bgs? o.O
19:52.42steevyeah - but it doesn't reset until you die
19:52.47nevcairielah.
19:52.48Arrowmasterlol
19:52.50nevcairielsmrt.
19:52.55Arrowmasteri need to abuse that
19:53.06nevcairieldo a kb, leave?
19:53.07nevcairiel;)
19:53.19Xinhuanthought that one was hotfixed long ago
19:53.20nevcairiel20 kbs will be a long time
19:53.29Xinhuancos when i tried it, zoning out of BG resetted it to 0
19:53.37steevdidn't here
19:53.40steevnot till i died
19:53.55durcyni thought it reset when you zoned in
19:53.57steevi figured it would reset too, i was tracking it
19:54.07Xinhuani ended up doing it in a BG anyway
19:54.10XinhuanEoTS
19:54.16Arrowmasteri still need 5 hks in exodar
19:54.19steevyeah, i was doing it in wsg
19:54.22steevdamn it
19:54.26nevcairielIf you run with a premade against some dumb group, you'll get it anyway
19:54.27steevfforgot to post the screenshot
19:54.42durcyni ended up getting it in AV at 70, just farming horde below iceblood graveyard
19:54.48durcynmight still work.
19:54.49steev18 kbs, 0 deaths, 75 hks and something like 500k damage
19:55.04nevcairielI hate achievements like that, though
19:55.10steevits killing blows, not hks
19:55.10nevcairielI'm a freakign healer :P
19:55.23steevnevcairiel: holy shock or priest equivalent
19:55.34Gngskhe's a druid
19:55.36nevcairieli would moonfire and try to ninja the kill
19:55.37nevcairielbut still
19:55.48steevdroods have it easy then
19:56.11nevcairielI should try it as feral some time
19:56.14steevuse your insect swarm or whatever, treants or some shit
19:56.26steevmoonfire starfire, some kinda op fire shit yall do
19:56.40durcynwould be easier as feral, moonkins tend to get focus fired down
19:56.46steevyeah they do
19:56.52nevcairielI always wanted to spec moonkin for a while to annoy some people with typhoon
19:57.06steeveveryone is like lolol look at the big chicken, lets kill it
19:57.40steevi kill em because they are a pain in the ass if you don't
19:57.45steevand not because of typhoon
19:57.48Arrowmasteri almost got the 10 flag carrier hks in the flag room in wsg once when fighting a premade, they were farming it and a few of their guys kept running over and picking up our flag and letting us kill them but once they got their 10 they got serious and bastard guild shaman let me die in the flag room once and i missed the 10th kill
19:58.07steevthey lowered it to 2
19:58.08nevcairielArrowmaster: you know, they nerfed that to 2 or 3 now =P
19:58.14Arrowmasterthey did?
19:58.16Arrowmasterwtf
19:58.17steeveven though it still says 10
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19:58.23Arrowmasterlol
19:58.28nevcairielyeah 3.0.8 will change the text
19:58.31steevguildie of ours got it and was like wtf
19:58.32Arrowmasteri havent entered a bg since 70
19:58.33nevcairielsome hotfix lowered it
19:58.43steevwe were like what?
19:58.43nevcairielI only went into a BG for the merry maker
19:58.46steevhe says, i only killed 2
19:58.47durcynwhich is total crap, i grabbed a premade and got that the week 3.0 came out, it's not hard
19:58.55durcyngorram casual achievements.
19:59.08steevi agree
19:59.19Arrowmasteri need to do more bgs
19:59.20steevalthough a guildie got loremaster and um
19:59.25steevachiement master or whatever
19:59.27Arrowmasterneed more tokens for my 5th mount
19:59.34steevthe achievement tabard looks badass
19:59.36nevcairielany form of pvp is totally un-fun right now
19:59.39steevthe loremaster one looks retarded
19:59.43steevi dunno
19:59.47steevi did arenas last night
19:59.49steev4-0
19:59.55steevwith a feral drood
20:00.01Arrowmasteri need to work on loremaster, i still need to do icecrown
20:00.08Arrowmasterand like 100 kalimdor quests
20:00.09steevmy favorite match
20:00.11steevtook forever
20:00.15durcynnone of the reward tabards are worth a damn
20:00.17steevwas against a prot warrior and holy pally
20:00.21nevcairielAgain, i'm a healer, its what i do and like. and in pvp, you have no place right now
20:00.32Pneumatusunless you have like 800 resil
20:00.33durcynit is kind of fun having the 310% mounts thoujgh
20:00.34steevdamn pally would be almost outta mana and then... nope, hes got maan again
20:00.42steevPneumatus: i only have 408
20:00.45nevcairielPneumatus: even then, a rogue just kills you
20:00.54nevcairieldurcyn: i have one from season 1 =P
20:00.55steevrogues run from me
20:01.01steevi put mark of blood on them and ignore em
20:01.17durcynnevcairiel: i'm still not sure how i feel about the proto-drakes
20:01.27durcynthe model is just so unwieldy
20:01.32nevcairielI'm like one achievement short from the red one
20:02.02Fisker-Zeksie you so silly
20:02.04Pneumatusone of my guilds druids arenas resto and is in the top 100 on the BG for 2v2, so it cant be all that bad
20:02.06nevcairielbut i didnt really feel motivated to respec feral and do azjol'nerub
20:02.20durcynscrew that one until the patch
20:02.20Pneumatusi know he has a crapton of resil tho
20:02.21Arrowmasteri dont get invited to guild heroics or even guild raids anymore =(
20:02.23NeoTronproto drakes ftw
20:02.24NeoTronreally
20:02.29Arrowmasterwtb new guild
20:02.37NeoTronI love the proto drakes
20:02.43Repo10charge-meter: 03Starinnia * r24 ChargeMeter.lua: minor tweaks
20:02.49durcynhaving to get lucky on the casts once is bad enough, but twice can go die
20:02.56NeoTronArrowmaster: C/S/M? ;-)
20:03.03ckknightA/S/L?
20:03.13nevcairielPneumatus: 2v2 was always totally unbalanced, and always will be .. i never bothered to play it. got my gladiator drake from 3v3
20:03.16NeoTronClass/Spec/Maturity hehe
20:03.32Pneumatushe's got like 1700 in 3v3 i think
20:03.41Arrowmasterwarlock, felgaurd/emberstorm because im lazy and soloing shit, high
20:03.50steevi dunno but im pretty fucking annoyed at our "main tank"
20:03.53nevcairielquestions the "high"
20:03.54nevcairiel:P
20:03.58steevhe was doing all the retarded ass achievements
20:04.11Arrowmasterlike what?
20:04.14steevnow every time i get on hes like omg omg omg lets run something i need gear now that i have all the achievements
20:04.22Arrowmasterlol
20:05.05steevand im like fuck off, i wanted to run shit and you did nothing but whine about how your gear sucked and did the retarded ass achievements
20:05.05ckknightnevcairiel: M = asshole, methinks
20:05.05steevi was the first 80 in guild, and im the best geared - which really isn't saying alot
20:05.15Arrowmasterive only got 115 emblems of heroism, my gear sucks because i never get heroic groups or raids now
20:05.18nevcairielI need a raid group that plays even naxxramas seriously, like doing all achievements every week just because they can and to raise the level a bit. We're lucky right now if we get through it "fast" :/
20:05.30steevArrowmaster: why are you saving them?
20:05.38Arrowmasterdont know what to get
20:05.40Xinhuani've been tyring Undying every week
20:05.41durcynto buy the mount, obviously.
20:05.46nevcairieli heard the trinket is good
20:05.47Xinhuandying to stupid things every week
20:05.55steevi <3 mirror of truth
20:06.03NeoTronGetting Undying was nice
20:06.08Pneumatuswe tend to lose undying every week due to dodgy pulls on razuvious
20:06.11steevour guild has downed arachnid quarter and noth
20:06.13Xinhuanin my first week, undying failure was at Kelthuzad, 2nd tank decided to run between 2 melee and frostblast everyone >.<
20:06.13Pneumatus25man that is
20:06.14nevcairielXinhuan: that would be impossible for us, unless half the raid logs out in heigan and thaddius, but then again thaddius needs the damage :P
20:06.18steevthen again, those are the only 4 bosses we've atempted yet
20:06.31NeoTronPneumatus: you fail to kill razuvious in 10 man due to the pull?.. oh 25 man
20:06.38Xinhuanin my 2nd week, undying failure was at 4 horse, when our tank didn't drag a melee boss far enough and someong got 6 stacks of marks
20:06.39NeoTron25 man is the Immortal isn't it?
20:06.41durcynXinhuan: we managed to get undying and 8-man at the same time a few weeks ago.. barely.  watching the deatknight offtank on KT die to guardians at 1% makes your heart stop, i'm here to say.
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20:06.45Arrowmasteri thought undying reset on a wipe?
20:06.45durcynnevcairiel: yes
20:06.53Xinhuanin my 3rd week, my undying failure was a lock getting hateful strike by patchwerk
20:06.56Xinhuani facepalmed
20:06.56Pneumatusif you wipe you've lost the achievement
20:07.03steevhow
20:07.13Xinhuanhe stood in melee range during the pull.
20:07.14steevhow the fuck does a warlock get hateful strike
20:07.18steevagain
20:07.23nevcairieldurcyn: death knight with ghoul resurrect specced? ;)
20:07.29durcynnevcairiel: yes, thankfully
20:07.47durcynnevcairiel: watched a ghoul climb out of a hole, then the achievement popped up, it was epic
20:07.51Mochitohiya guys :) i've got a new display now my interface is a lil messed up (made for 1280x1024 now i want to play @1920x1200) what do i have to do to fix it? oô
20:08.02steevMochito: get a new interface
20:08.10MochitooÔ for real?
20:08.15Xinhuanmove things around
20:08.17Xinhuan(duh)
20:08.23Mochitowould take ages
20:08.26Mochitothats why i ask
20:08.27Pneumatusdelete savedvars and start again :>
20:08.29Xinhuanthen you better start now
20:08.34NeoTronhave fun
20:08.37steevor... get a new interface
20:08.42Mochitoso you mean, theres no other way?
20:08.54steevhttp://www.google.com/search?q=1920x1200+wow+interface&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
20:09.08steevMochito: run at 1280x1024 on the new display
20:09.13Xinhuandon't you wish there are shortcuts in life every time?
20:09.20Xinhuanthis isn't one of them with shortcuts
20:09.26nevcairieldurcyn: i cant even get enough people together to just squish all the naxx10 achievements once, i know about 5 that would be dedicated to doing it and have the skill .. but thats it .. wtb new guild :P
20:09.32Mochitok still thx
20:09.42NeoTronnevcairiel: class/role/raid times? heh
20:09.48durcynnevcairiel: are you a US alliance resto shaman? >_>
20:09.55nevcairielEU resto druid
20:10.06Arrowmasterso speaking of new monitors, anybody else pissed that they arent going to make 16:10 lcds anymore and only 16:9?
20:10.08Mochitoalle the ready2go uis i like are for smaller resolutions =/
20:10.08nevcairielalliance, too
20:10.16ckknightArrowmaster: ...no?
20:10.18NeoTronright class and faction but wrong country :P
20:10.32durcynArrowmaster: i'm annoyed that 16:10 existed in the first place
20:10.43durcynconsistent aspect ratios please
20:10.48Arrowmasteri like the extra screen space
20:10.53NeoTronMochito: I'm guessing many if not a majority of everyone in here makes their ui's from scratch rather than using "ready made" ones
20:10.58steevdurcyn: so you hate the 1280x1024 resolution i hope
20:11.09Arrowmastereverybody hates 1280x1024
20:11.18gix5:4 <3
20:11.19Mochitothats what i did i just made my interface now i got a need to redo it ^^ pain in the ass
20:11.19NeoTronsteev: I haven't used 1280x1024 since I had a Pentium 166 with a 17" screen
20:11.33durcyn1280x1024 isn't a real resolution, it's a godamn abomination.
20:11.36XinhuanMochito, it is YOUR ui, you should make it yourself, not copy someone else's UI
20:11.46Mochitoas i said ive made one
20:11.53Mochitonever used a rdy2go ui
20:11.56steevmake ti again
20:12.00steevbut bigger!
20:12.01gixMochito: or learn to love the default ui. no hassles.
20:12.02Mochitobut im a little lazy u know :)
20:12.09Mochitoblasphemy!
20:12.12NeoTronwhat did you expect though? change the resolution or, at the very least, aspect ratio and you have to adjjust it
20:12.22durcynMochito: anyway, how bloody hard is repositioning a few elements
20:12.27durcyntake ten minutes and fix it, the end
20:12.34MochitoxD few?
20:13.04Mochitonah i see that i have to redo it no problem
20:13.12Mochitoits just me beeing lazy
20:14.16nevcairielHm
20:14.17ShefkiI happen to like my 16:10 displays.  2560x1600 :)
20:14.30nevcairielchanging your resolution shouldnt affect your layout
20:14.33nevcairielunless
20:14.37nevcairielyou change aspect ratio
20:14.40nevcairielwhich you did, i guess
20:14.43durcynhe did change aspect ratio.
20:15.54Mochitonope i didnt
20:16.06Mochitoi just changed the resolution nothing else
20:16.28durcyn... the resolution you changed to is a different aspect ratio.
20:16.38Xinhuan(he's not very bright, is he?)
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20:17.28Mochitodude you dont have to be offensive its hard enough for me speak in english
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20:17.57Xinhuanyou english so far has been perfect
20:18.16nevcairiel1280x1024 is what, 5:4 right?, 1920x1200 is 16:10 (or 8:5 :P)
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20:20.33Pkekyo|err...windows won't let me remove write protection on a folder - anyone know what I can beat it over the head with so the write protection sods off?
20:20.41Xinhuanyes
20:20.48Xinhuanright click on that folder again
20:21.02Xinhuanchoose properties
20:21.10Xinhuango to Security tab
20:21.16Xinhuanclick Advanced
20:21.21Pkekyo|err
20:21.34Xinhuanyou see a list of permission entries
20:21.49Xinhuanyou need to select them
20:21.51Pkekyo|there's "General", "Sharing" and "Configure"
20:21.54Xinhuanand edit them for your group
20:22.03Pkekyo|no other tabs
20:22.16Xinhuanthen you can't remove write protect
20:22.20Xinhuango relog into admin
20:22.32Pkekyo|I am logged into the admin account
20:22.51Xinhuanthere should be 4 tabs - General, Sharing, Security and Customize
20:23.01Pkekyo|the security one isn't there
20:23.07*** join/#wowace doom0r (i=Doom0r@c-24-1-208-53.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
20:23.15Xinhuanthe security tab allows and sets about 20 different permissions for each user/group
20:23.30CheadsPkekyo| which file system?
20:23.34Pkekyo|NTFS
20:23.47Cheadsstrange then
20:23.59Xinhuanwhat folder is this
20:24.19gixPkekyo|: running xp home?
20:24.27Pkekyo|D:\Laptop 2008\Documents\WEB\v2
20:24.27Pkekyo|gix: Pro
20:24.30Arrowmasterhes probably got simple file sharing enabled
20:24.44Cheadsyeah, like arrowmaster say
20:24.53Arrowmasterand i dont think you can make folders read only
20:25.01Xinhuanyou can heh
20:25.02Cheadsdisable simple file sharding.. it's under folder options
20:25.06Arrowmasteror atleast the box will never become completely unchecked
20:25.13Xinhuana read-only folder can't be renamed
20:25.16Cheadssharing*
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20:26.59Pkekyo|"General" "Display/Show/somethinglikethat" "File types/somethinglikethat" "Offline Files" < which tab is simple file sharing under?
20:27.04Pkekyo|'cause I can't find it
20:27.34XinhuanWindows EXplorer --> Tools --> Folder options --> View tab --> Advanced settings --> last checkbo
20:27.36Xinhuan+x
20:28.13Arrowmasteryay 421 tailoring, 8 more days until my carpet if i dont make anymore bags
20:28.14Fisker-http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1231272664200.jpg
20:28.25mitchnullcarpet?
20:28.38Arrowmastermount
20:28.41doom0rwow Fisker-, wow
20:28.42Pkekyo|can't find any "advanced settings"-button anywhere there Xinhuan
20:28.50Pkekyo|nvm
20:29.05Hirsutemitchnull: The flying carpet mount for tailors.
20:29.11mitchnullheh, nice
20:29.19Pkekyo|the last checkbox there is "Show encrypted or compressed NTFS-files in colors" though
20:29.43Xinhuanthere should be a checkbox that says "Use simple file sharing (recommended)"
20:29.46mitchnullI should get back to wow for a bit to check out the expansion. some funny stuff implemented
20:29.46Xinhuanturn it off
20:29.59doom0rwhy 8 more days arrow?
20:30.15Fisker-Google did 9/11
20:30.15Xinhuan"Show encrypted or compressed NTFS-files in colors" <-- should be 3rd last checkbox
20:30.18Arrowmasterbecause cloth is on a 4 day cooldown
20:30.24Arrowmasterand eternal life sucks
20:30.31doom0rthere's only magnificient atm
20:30.48Arrowmasteri know, but im skilling up on cloth
20:30.54doom0roic
20:31.16Arrowmasternot wasting 100+ frostweave on a skillup unless i get a 20slot bag from it
20:31.27Pkekyo|Xinhuan: found it, it's turned off, at the Security-tab now
20:31.38doom0rget northrend loremaster and northrend dungeonmaster and get people to buy cloaks from you :P
20:31.41Xinhuanso just do all the steps i mentioned earlier
20:32.17Xinhuanyou need to find which user/group you are, and go to Advanced
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20:32.35Xinhuanand then edit the permisison entries to "uncheck DENY" for everything
20:32.45Pkekyo|still doesn't work Xinhuan, all usergroups have unlimited rights atm
20:32.52Repo10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r727 AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIWidget-TabGroup.lua:
20:32.54RepoAceGUI-3.0: TagGroup: Only stretch the tabs to the full width if they would use 75% of the available space already, otherwise just leave them be.
20:32.55Xinhuani bet you don't
20:33.00Xinhuango into Advanced for all of them
20:33.08Xinhuanand look at every permission entry
20:33.12Xinhuanedit all of them
20:33.55Xinhuanjust because you have a "Allow" checkbox ticked, if the "Deny" checkbox is also ticked, it prevents you from deleting it
20:34.48Arrowmasterwhat bastards idea was it to give tailors cloak enchants that are gray when you learn them
20:35.31doom0rleast its better than cooking
20:35.41doom0rand enchanting
20:36.35Pkekyo|Xinhuan: this should give me the same rights for all sub-folders and files, right?
20:36.37gixhm. 4x frost lotus from 14 plants
20:36.55Xinhuandepends if the subfolders are set to inherit from the parent folder
20:37.07gixdid they increase the drop rate?
20:37.18Xinhuanthey too can manually have settings, some of which can inherit from parent, some don't have to
20:37.29Xinhuanfor the most part, its all inheritted
20:37.41Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1315 Locals (3 files in 1 directory):
20:37.44RepoAdd a couple missing enUS translations, redo the esES translations with data I had from version 1, copy the esES to esMX for now.  Added esES to the web-site.
20:37.58Repo10grid: 03Greltok 07unitguid * r1108 GridStatusReadyCheck.lua: Should work for party again.
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20:40.17Cheadsyou can set the changes to be applied to subfoders too
20:40.45Pkekyo|I'm now at "Advanced Security Settings" - all checkboxes are ticked
20:42.32Pkekyo|both the "User" and "Administrators" usergroups
20:44.02Pkekyo|I'm going bloody insane here
20:44.11Xinhuanyou don't want to tick everything - instead, you want to untick all the DENY boxes
20:44.24Pkekyo|no DENY boxes are ticked
20:45.50Xinhuanthere should be a 3rd usergroup called SYSTEM as well ;p
20:46.12Pkekyo|there is, no deny-boxes are ticked
20:46.25Xinhuanand although i'm not sure, you may need a reboot
20:47.05Xinhuanand make sure no process or handle is using the file/folder
20:47.10Pkekyo|I just wanted to copy a bloody folder :(
20:47.35Xinhuancopy?
20:47.38Pkekyo|yes
20:47.40Xinhuanyou don't need much to copy
20:47.45Xinhuanonly read permissions
20:47.49Pkekyo|well it ain't bloody working
20:47.54Xinhuanits deleting that's problematic
20:48.03Pkekyo|I don't want to delete anything
20:48.57Pkekyo|"Can not copy lightbox: No access.
20:48.57Pkekyo|Check that the harddrive is not full or write-protected, and that the file is not in use"
20:49.21Xinhuanwell check that its not in use then ;p
20:49.22DiaoXinhuan: does it have to be during wg?
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20:49.27XinhuanDiao: no
20:49.30Diaosorry, was out buying lunch :p
20:49.34Diaook yeah
20:49.42Pkekyo|Xinhuan: it's not as far as I can tell
20:49.43Diaoi'll log on and head over
20:49.44Xinhuanthat said, its also about 15 min to WG lol
20:49.54Diaolol
20:49.57Diaowinterlag :(
20:50.00Xinhuanwell
20:50.05Xinhuanhorde defended WG successfully just now
20:50.12Xinhuanalliance had 8 stacks tenacity
20:50.12Xinhuanzz
20:50.24steevheh
20:50.27Diaolol
20:50.32steevthe other day i faced a warlock with 76k health
20:50.35Diaoalso, i didn't realize how easy it was to gear up in lk compared to bc
20:50.53Xinhuanyeah
20:51.00Diaowent from full 70 tanking gear to naxx ready in 2 days
20:51.02steevtenacity needs to go away
20:51.10Diaostarted doing heroics in my 70 gear :x
20:51.15Xinhuanno it doesn't
20:51.18Cheadschange owner of the folder.... seems to solve those odd problems
20:51.20steevyes. it does.
20:51.29Xinhuanmy point is, my attacking team has tenacity and FAILED to win
20:51.31steevif you can't get enough fucking people in there
20:51.42steevthen you don't deserve it
20:51.42Diaobtw, how many subzones does wg have
20:51.46Xinhuanin other words, tenacity wasn't enough to balance WG
20:51.49Xinhuanabout 10
20:51.53Diaooi
20:51.53Fisker-so yay
20:51.56Diaowant to do 1 subzone a day?
20:51.57Fisker-all pve content cleared!
20:52.00Fisker-(we're late etc :D)
20:52.06Diaobecause i'm going to have a rez timer of like
20:52.08Diao5 billion
20:52.18Diaounless there's a 30 sec respawn like battlegrounds
20:52.18Xinhuannot really, you can kill me back in return ;p
20:52.22Pkekyo|sod it, I'm giving that reboot a try
20:52.23Xinhuanthere is
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20:52.26Diaooh ok
20:52.28Xinhuanits a 30 sec respawn
20:52.31Diaothen i don't mind haha
20:52.37Diaoi haven't been to wg before
20:52.37Xinhuaneven when WG is not active
20:52.48steevit can be fun
20:53.02Xinhuanusually though my server is balanced in WG
20:53.05steevexcept when the defenders get tenacity x35
20:53.15Xinhuanand 90% of the WGs have ever reached 2 stacksof tenacity, at most 3
20:53.20Diaoyeah it seems like wg switches hands almost every time
20:53.37steevand you can't even get close to the fortress because the cannons are one shotting you in plate with 90% damage reduction up
20:53.49Xinhuani've yet to see that one hehe
20:53.55nevcairielyeah tenactiy can really go over the top
20:54.09nevcairielpeople one shotting you and unkillable isnt "balance adjustment"
20:54.30steevi'd be fine with the health increase
20:54.38steevbut increase by 620% just blows
20:54.41Cheadssome of the servers with bad ratio get insane tenacity
20:54.51Xinhuani thought tenacity is capped at 20 stacks?
20:54.58nevcairielyou wish
20:55.35Xinhuani haven't even seen a 2 digit tenacity before, apart from during the first 10 seconds of WG
20:55.47steevyou are lucky then
20:55.53nevcairielArcane Barrage crits you for 59481 Arcane damage.
20:55.54nevcairiel^
20:56.04Xinhuansounds like u should xfer ;p
20:56.05steev(20 resisted)
20:56.18nevcairieli dont care that much for pvp
20:56.22nevcairieland its gotten better
20:56.27Xinhuandiao pick a subzone ;p
20:56.32nevcairiel(i need a new guild for ulduar anyway, i guess)
20:56.34steevoooh oooh
20:56.37steevwait xin
20:56.40SkellumJust CC them to death if they have double diget tenacity
20:56.40steevget the quests
20:56.44gixFisker-: grats on the mount then!
20:56.56SkellumAll you have to do to beat tenacity is use your advantage of players
20:56.58steevthere are daily quests for getting stuff off the horde/alliance bodies in the subzones
20:57.11steevuh, right Skellum
20:57.14Xinhuanfor 3 shards, yeah pretty silly steev ;p
20:57.31steev3 shards, 13g, 1241 honor
20:57.45Xinhuanmy last WG battle netted me 7k honor
20:57.48Xinhuanin 30 min
20:57.52Skellumfun too :D
20:57.57nevcairielWG is insane for honor
20:58.06steevyeah they typically are fun
20:58.11Xinhuani also have spent and used some 600 stone keeper shards
20:58.16Xinhuani don't think i really care about getting anymore ;p
20:58.17steevthe issue is, wtf do you do once you have the savage gladiator set
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20:58.32Xinhuanwell some classes have more than 1 set to buy
20:58.36steevthe resilience doesn't cut down the damage from the fully pve epicced people at all
20:58.57Xinhuanit does - you just need to reach 1230 resilience first
20:59.04Xinhuanwhich is the new cap
20:59.05Pkekyo|well...the reboot did fuck-all
20:59.22Xinhuan1230 resilience == -15% crit chance and -33% dot/crit damage
20:59.25Cheadschange owner ... seems to solve those odd problems
20:59.26Xinhuan82 res = 1%
20:59.26steevim currently sitting at 11% reduction
20:59.37steevim still getting crit for 10-15k
20:59.40steevIN PLATE
20:59.47Xinhuanby what
20:59.51steevwarrior
20:59.58Xinhuanin WG ?
21:00.01Xinhuanor in arena
21:00.02steevarenas
21:00.10Xinhuanjust means Execute needs to be nerfed
21:00.14steevi don't care about wg at all
21:00.16Xinhuanits an execute right? 100 rage
21:00.35steevno idea what it was, i just remember going what the fuck kind of 11% reduction bullshit is that
21:00.38nevcairielif you're low enough to be executed, it doesnt matter if its 3000 or 20000
21:00.55DiaoXinhuan: i don't know the subzones lol
21:01.04Xinhuanok just tell me where u are
21:01.06Cheadsif you are at 19%, 3000 might not kill you =)
21:01.23Diaonevcairiel, arms warriors can execute you at 100% hp now :)
21:01.25nevcairielthen 5000, which is a pre-wotlk value already =P
21:01.32nevcairielmeh freaking warriors
21:01.38Xinhuanyes, there is a proc
21:01.39Diaouh, just north of icemist village right now
21:01.44Xinhuanthat can proc at any time allowing execute
21:01.52Xinhuanat any health
21:02.09Diaosome large temple thingy
21:02.11Xinhuanok running over
21:02.15steevstealths over and kills Xinhuan while he's looking for Diao
21:02.20Diaoflamewatch according to the tooltip
21:02.22Xinhuanjust give the name of the subzone on minimap
21:02.37steevor coords
21:02.42Xinhuan8 min to WG
21:02.44Xinhuanhmm
21:02.45Skellumactualy, it means Physical damage needs a nerf. Not execute.
21:02.52Diaolol
21:02.57Diaoi got crit for 13k with frostfire bolt in arena yesterday
21:02.59Diaowith 400 resil
21:03.10Diaothat was pretty awesome
21:03.12Xinhuan400 res is barely -10% crit damage
21:03.15Diaoyeah
21:03.17Diaobut still
21:03.17steevXinhuan: its 11%
21:03.23Diaoi died in 2 seconds
21:03.24Xinhuancomapre that to if you have 1230, which gives -33%
21:03.24steevim at 408
21:03.27Diaodouble mage
21:03.38nevcairielin arenas, you always die in 2 seconds right now
21:03.39steevXinhuan: the only way you can get to 1200 is to have hateful shit
21:03.39Pkekyo|Xinhuan: reboot did nothing, I can't figure this bloody thing out
21:03.39Pkekyo|folder originally came from another computer - an issue?
21:03.40nevcairielor your enemy does
21:03.42Skellumdamage taken only increased in S3/S4
21:03.45nevcairielthats all that happens in arenas
21:04.07steevnot true
21:04.11CheadsPkekyo| change owner of the folder and files... seems to solve those odd problems
21:04.14steevif you play smart you can win
21:04.25steevagainst anyone
21:04.29SkellumBullshit.
21:04.30Pkekyo|Cheads: allready tried, didn't do jack
21:04.35Xinhuanyes it can be an issue, as the folder is technically under another user
21:04.36Xinhuan;p
21:04.43steevSkellum: orly
21:04.46SkellumPlay my warlock for me. Proove it.
21:04.54Xinhuandiao, i'm not sure how close the "closest horde Gy is" ;p
21:04.58Diaoit's just north
21:05.03steevsorry, i prefer to do more than fear bomb and whine when i still die
21:05.20CheadsPkekyo| remebered to set "replace owner on subcontainers and objects" ?
21:05.23Skellumso you mean you cant do it.
21:05.31Xinhuanthis is the silliest achievement though, nobody in the right minds will come to this tower
21:05.33SkellumO'
21:05.34Diaoit's right above the vehicle warshop
21:05.34Xinhuanduring a WG
21:05.37steevconsidering i've never played a warlock past 20
21:05.37Diaol
21:05.39SkellumI'm glad you clairified that for me.
21:05.39Diaolol*
21:05.39steevprobably not
21:05.46steevokay let me clarify further
21:05.47Pkekyo|Cheads: yes
21:05.50SkellumAs I said, Bullshit. And you've confirmed it.
21:05.54steevit requires *SKILL* and playing smart
21:06.00steevyou obviously lack the former
21:06.18SkellumPlaying smart requires skill? And sandboxes require sand.
21:06.19steevi get owned all the time by warlocks
21:06.19XinhuanDiao, what we can do is just kill at flamewatch until WG is up, then play a full game of WG ;p
21:06.25Xinhuanthen back to flamewatch lol
21:06.25SkellumJesus, could you get more formulaic?
21:06.32SkellumThen you're bad.
21:06.42SkellumCheck arena junkies if you disbelive me.
21:06.43steevyou must be worse if you're bitching that you can't win
21:06.45Diaook, sounds good
21:06.48SkellumYou're bad if you die to warlocks.
21:07.02steevnot really
21:07.05SkellumUnless you're like...a poorly specced priest.
21:07.08Pkekyo|I'm on the verge of fucking offing myself
21:07.09Xinhuanyour corpse gave me 10 copper ;p
21:07.10steevonce my trinket and every man are on cd
21:07.12CheadsPkekyo| then on the folder set it to not inherit permissions
21:07.16steevnothing to break me out of the fear bombs
21:07.16Diaohaha
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21:07.20SkellumFEAR BOMB!
21:07.24SkellumWtf is a fear bomb?
21:07.24steevwhich is all you warlocks know how to do
21:07.30SkellumYou mean the thing you can trinket from?
21:07.33steevfear... howl of terror, fear, fear
21:07.36SkellumOr the thing you can WoTF out of ?
21:07.37steevdude
21:07.41steevare you fucking retarded
21:07.47SkellumExcept that doesnt work. By the time we got to that fourth one you're on DRs.
21:07.49SkellumWhat class are you.
21:07.52steevdid you not read what the fuck i said
21:07.55SkellumWhat class are you.
21:08.02Arrowmasterfear doesnt do shit
21:08.04steev"when my trinket and every man for himself are on cd its over"
21:08.06SkellumWhat class are you.
21:08.17steevi have stated in here multiple times what class i am
21:08.20SkellumHuman too? FFS you're pathetic.
21:08.23Xinhuanonly class a lock can reliably beat now is probably mage ;p
21:08.36steevSkellum: eat a dick
21:08.40Skellumpoorly specced mage, Arcane hurts like hell
21:08.42SkellumWhat class are you.
21:09.07steevyeah, not a fan of mages either
21:09.12SkellumWait...wait..did you say you were a warrior? Who has trouble with fear?
21:09.13Arrowmastergetting 2shot by boomkins hurts =(
21:09.15SkellumA warrior.
21:09.19Diaowarriors get fucked by fear now
21:09.19SkellumWith trouble with fear.
21:09.24Diaoif they aren't always in zerk
21:09.25steevdid i say i was a warrior?
21:09.29Pkekyo|Cheads: didn't change a thing
21:09.33Diaothey removed 2 of our fear immunities
21:09.40steevi said i was annoyed that a warrior critted me for 13k when i was wearing plate
21:10.02steevlearn to fucking read you dumb fuck
21:10.04SkellumHuman + Warrior + PvP trinket.
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21:10.18SkellumAnd I've asked you about 5x now what class you are.
21:10.19Diaoif you're a pally you also have bubble to break fear
21:10.24Diaoand if you're dk you probably have lichborne
21:10.28SkellumSay what you are and get done with it so we can continue to laugh at you.
21:10.40steevSkellum: no one else seems to care except you
21:10.43SkellumSay what you are and get done with it so we can continue to laugh at you.
21:10.54Shiriksteev, I think you need to chill
21:11.00XinhuanDiao, this is probably the worst location when alliance is controlling it to do 10 kills i guess
21:11.04Diaolol
21:11.04Diaoyeah
21:11.07Xinhuanthe other gy is closer when it swap sides
21:11.09Diaois there
21:11.10Diaooh
21:11.23Diaois there a better zone?
21:11.36Diaocloser one*
21:11.41Xinhuanlets just do WG "normally" now
21:11.45Xinhuanask for a raid invite in your /1
21:11.50Diaooh, it started
21:12.00Xinhuanalso u can talk to spirit resser
21:12.00Pkekyo|slings a rope over the ceiling support-beam
21:12.01Xinhuanwhile dead
21:12.05Xinhuanto port to any other GY
21:12.09steevShirik: uh, i had moved on
21:12.17Diaooh, cool
21:12.19steevthanks for the thoughts though
21:12.34Shirikyeah, definitely sounds like you moved on
21:12.44Skellumhe bailed as soon as everyone realized he was bad and refuses to name his class.
21:12.49SkellumBut yea, its done i think
21:13.49Shirikon to more impotant stuff, like how we can get Xinhuan to die in WG
21:13.58SkellumShoot him with plague
21:14.21doom0rsimple, make him think you get reputation with some faction for dying
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21:15.11Shirikyou should
21:15.11Arrowmasterlol
21:15.14XinhuanDiao, simply put the horde's objective now is to defend the relic in the fortress
21:15.51Skellumman turrets, call out where things are on the walls and kill the bad people
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21:16.07Xinhuanu can build vehicles at rank 1 and 2
21:16.12ShirikI enjoy defending
21:16.16Shirikattacking is too complicated
21:16.20Xinhuani don't
21:16.35Xinhuandefenders always lose (in a fight where tenacity doesn't stack higher than 5)
21:16.37steevtoo many morons when you're attacking continue to hit the walls after you've already broken through
21:16.42ZaoAttacking involves running around like headless chickens, smashing any horde you see and hoping that someone else actually knows what to do.
21:17.10SkellumXinhuan, I always find we lose on my server when it gets too laggy.
21:17.17NivFreakI've seen WG defended twice so far since wrath came out
21:17.25steev"guys the relic is vulnerable get in there" "lolol i almost killed that tower before they destroyed my vehicle did you see that"
21:17.26SkellumTheir vehicles blink around the map due to server lag and once somethings on the door you cant do crap to them
21:17.27NivFreakon our server
21:17.39NivFreakthe server lag is horrid
21:17.44NivFreakit's near impossible to defend
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21:17.58steevthey closed down wg for a night shortly after christmas on our server
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21:18.07SkellumWhile leveling my DK I can tell when WG is coming up
21:18.10steevit was taking 30+ seconds for death and decay to drop
21:18.12SkellumThe whole server lags.
21:18.20SkellumIts so stupid...there has to be a way to fix it.
21:18.27doom0rinstance the pos
21:18.32SkellumFuck that
21:18.40Arrowmasterhardware upgrades
21:18.44steevthen they would always have to open a portal
21:18.45doom0rwhy? there's absolutely no arguement for not
21:18.58steevthen its not world pvp
21:19.03Arrowmasterseems servers always need hardware upgrades when naxx comes out
21:19.04NivFreakso twice this week
21:19.11NivFreakI've tried to fly into wintergrasp from the basin
21:19.12Shirikdoom0r: How are you going to instance it?
21:19.17NivFreakand been dismounted without a chute
21:19.22steevNivFreak: ouch
21:19.23SkellumDalaran and WG. Boith infested with lag
21:19.23NivFreakand fallen to my death
21:19.30doom0rit's a zone, just like an instance is
21:19.36ArrowmasterNivFreak: happened to me in dalaran
21:19.38doom0rit's not world pvp
21:19.39ShirikExcept instances have a portal
21:19.45NivFreakArrowmaster: happened to me in dalaran last night too
21:19.47NivFreakbut I lived
21:19.53doom0rso drop a damn portal to a far point
21:19.53Shirikthat means there's a load (transfer) time
21:19.54NivFreakdalaran is never laggy for me, on a mac
21:19.56ShirikNo, fuck that
21:20.00SkellumIt is world PvP, and the entire zone encourages it, Eternal farming being the best thing they did there.
21:20.02NivFreakwindows people bitch constantly about it
21:20.03steevi like to fly in to wg from icecrown
21:20.03ShirikI enjoy being able to move freely into the zone
21:20.10SkellumNiv, Laggy. Its not client side.
21:20.12NivFreakthe interesting thing is, crystalsong is always super laggy for me
21:20.23steevits the pretty lights
21:20.24doom0rmove freely? you mean get dismounted and parachute?
21:20.26ANTRati managed to fall on the the small ring of land outside dalarn
21:20.40Shirikyes?
21:20.44Shirikthat's moving freely into it
21:20.49Arrowmasteryou get spammed with tradeskill messages and probably combatlog messages of people in dalaran when in crystalsong
21:20.56SkellumTo really fix my graphics lag I need a new Mobo/Processor.
21:21.11SkellumThankfully...those are sitting in my closet atm waiting for my case to arrive tommorow ^_^
21:22.09NivFreakSkellum: no seriously, people are bitching about lag in dalaran on windows boxes, and I have zero on my mac
21:22.20NivFreakI have not tried my vista box there
21:22.35steevNivFreak: i noticed that on my sysadmin's hackintosh
21:22.45steevin osx he had no issues with lag whatsoever
21:22.48NivFreakyea
21:22.51steevin xp he did
21:22.53steevsame machine
21:22.56NivFreakwhich makes me suspect shadows or something
21:23.04NivFreaksomething that the opengl implementation doesn't handle
21:23.08NivFreakbut lags the shit out of directx
21:23.17doom0ropengl in win doesn't kill anything
21:23.23doom0ri've tried
21:23.25NeoTronI had severe issues on my old box in Dalaran, running OS X
21:23.28NivFreakdoom0r: still laggy?
21:23.35doom0rya
21:23.40NivFreakNeoTron: well, there's clearly many factors that could affect it
21:23.42*** part/#wowace Skellum (i=Skellum@178.47.143.24.cm.sunflower.com)
21:23.46NivFreakbut I'm not alone in this observation
21:23.47NeoTronand OS X >= 10.5.5 handles shadows, at least some degree of
21:23.49doom0rsomething is not right, cpu is taking shit it shouldn't be in windows
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21:23.56NivFreakNeoTron: yea, I have shadows
21:24.02SkellumCool, I just discovered a new Hotkey on my IRC
21:24.04doom0rxp and vista
21:24.08NeoTronand my new vista box is perfectly smooth
21:24.12NivFreakI usually play with shadows off though
21:24.21NivFreakI turned them on the other day in dalaran
21:24.26NivFreakand noticed a giant croc shadow
21:24.28NeoTronso not sure if you can sya it's an OS or renderer issue
21:24.28SkellumI hate moonkins so much.
21:24.30NivFreakthat crawls aroudn
21:24.32NeoTronseems to more be a hardware issue
21:24.33NivFreakaround*
21:24.38SkellumI dont know what It is. I think its that they look so retarded
21:24.47NivFreakSkellum: ha
21:25.06Diaowow the achievement seems nearly impossible Xinhuan, all the fighting is up at wg fortress lol
21:25.11NeoTronI love shadows (for npc/chars) but find the building/geometry shadows broken
21:25.13Xinhuanexactly
21:25.16Skellumwhich achieve?
21:25.17NeoTronspecifically they clip
21:25.22Diaokilling 10 players in each wg subzone
21:25.29Xinhuanits also because the destruction of the 2 southerb factories is irrlevenat
21:25.39Xinhuandestroying them doesn't reduce max vehicles
21:25.47Xinhuanon either faction
21:26.00Skellumthey need to make it have an effect
21:26.01Xinhuanonly the east/west factories matter
21:26.11SkellumYou should be able to reduce either side to 0 Possible seige engines.
21:26.23SkellumThe defense needs a way to end it before the timer expires
21:26.30NivFreakNeoTron: I would like to play with shadows all the time, but the performance impact just isn't worth it
21:26.39NivFreakit is nice to see the shadow of an attacker from overhead
21:26.55NeoTronit's kind of freaky when  you see a huge shadow above you
21:27.08NivFreakIt adds a lot more realism to it
21:27.20NivFreakbut I prefer to play/raid on a laptop most of the time
21:27.27NivFreakso turning on shit like that has some negative affect
21:27.29SkellumI'll have a quad when I'm done building t his thing...its going to be so much fun seeing how high I can put my settings
21:27.31NivFreakeffect
21:27.45NivFreakmy vista box I can max everything out on and raid
21:27.50NivFreakwith recount/combatlog running
21:27.58NivFreakit's 2xquad core xeons
21:28.01NivFreak8g of ram
21:28.05NivFreakan 8800GTX
21:28.12SkellumWhy are they making a recount 2?
21:28.19NivFreakrecount2 is old iirc
21:28.23Skellumahhh
21:28.29HirsuteNivFreak: I'm assuming 64-bit Vista, yes?
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21:28.52viisual|workNivFreak, with Aero turned way down?
21:29.09NivFreakviisual|work: turned off
21:29.12NivFreakHirsute: yes
21:29.31NeoTronCore i7 740, 6 GB ram, GTX260  gpu
21:29.37DarkAuditNivFreak, sure you can raid, but what about WG? >.<
21:29.49NeoTronI use vsync (so sitting at 60 FPS max) and use like 15% cpu typically
21:29.59DarkAuditWG kills my computer even when I'm just gathering herbs in Borean
21:30.04Diaodoesn't that mean it's using 100% of 1 cpu NeoTron
21:30.05Diao:p
21:30.05nevcairielthe i7's are awesome, but pricy
21:30.06NeoTroneverything on max except shadows which just looks bad
21:30.14NivFreakDarkAudit: server side lag is enough in WG to not matter on the client :P
21:30.34viisual|workI have 2x 8800gtx, and i can't get shadows to render past the second tick =P
21:30.41NivFreakodd
21:30.42NeoTronDiao: well if I remove vsync I use more cpu than that
21:30.49HirsuteI keep putting off changing over to 64-bit windows... we've got some old hardware and software that I'm not sure will run.
21:30.52nevcairielshadows are a cpu thing, usually
21:30.59NeoTronthere's 4 cpu cores, but 2 threads each so I guess 12.5 means one thread, one core
21:31.05Diaoyeah
21:31.09DarkAuditNivFreak, I end up with seconds per frame when I'm in the middle of a WG fight... not worth bothering with anymore
21:31.13Diaowow maxes at 2 threads
21:31.14Diaoi'm not sure why
21:31.17Diao:(
21:31.23viisual|workit's old.
21:31.24NeoTronone for sound mixing, one for everything else isn't it?
21:31.30Diaoeven if you change processor affinity in the config.wtf
21:31.30ShirikDiao: Not 2 threads
21:31.42Diaoit only picks a max of 2 cores
21:31.44nevcairielIt has multiple threads
21:31.45NeoTronwow max has threaded open gl
21:31.46ShirikWoW definitely has a lot more than 2 threads
21:31.56NeoTronbut it barely uses more than one cpu, ever
21:32.03nevcairielit can use 2 pretty good
21:32.09Shirikyeah, it tends to use 2
21:32.10nevcairielruns gfx on one, everythign else on the other
21:32.16NeoTronso likely additional threads use minimal cpu or there's lockin
21:32.31ShirikIt is probably a synchronization issue
21:32.38nevcairielI usually get one core 100% and the other 40-50% when playing
21:32.38HirsuteYou can set WoW's processor affinity in config.wtf?  I might have to look into that.
21:32.42NeoTronnevcairiel: on a Mac, which has much better multi-cpu use due to threaded open GL WoW used about 150% cpu (i.e 1.5 core)
21:32.50NeoTronon Windows it uses much less than that
21:33.17XinhuanHirsute: only useful if you more than 4 cores
21:33.21Xinhuani mean more than 2 cores
21:33.22NeoTronat least from what I've seen
21:33.39HirsuteXinhuan: More than 2 cores, or 2 cores +?
21:33.44Xinhuanmore than 2
21:33.48HirsuteGood to know.
21:33.49Xinhuanwow only uses 2
21:33.51NeoTronalthough I think by default WoW will use just one core on an i740 (cpu 0 and 1, which I presume is the two trheads of core 1)
21:33.54Xinhuanso if you have 4, it picks the best 2
21:34.03Xinhuanbut you can set affinity so it always picks the same 2
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21:34.19Repo-fix boss mob still having hash in raid export
21:34.21Repo-added clear waitlist toggle
21:34.23NeoTronstill I think I'm pretty clearly gpu bound now
21:34.23Repo-added libwho-2.0 for scanning out of raid members and future alias scanning
21:34.30nevcairielyeah Windows isnt really equipped to handle SMT/Hyper Threading
21:34.40nevcairiel*SMP
21:34.48NeoTronbut not exactly an issue either since I'm mostly at 60 FPS except for rare occasions
21:34.48NivFreakhyper threading sucks anyway
21:34.49NivFreak:)
21:35.00NeoTronnevcairiel: in the core i7 it apparently actually helps
21:35.01nevcairielnah it doesnt
21:35.06NeoTronas opposed to the earlier iteration(s)
21:35.11nevcairielHT is a good idea
21:35.16NivFreakbadly implemented
21:35.17NeoTronnevcairiel: and I meant NivFreak there :P
21:35.33nevcairielNivFreak: in the P4 it mostly was, thats why the Core2 didnt get it.
21:35.37nevcairielbut the i7 does it well
21:35.45NivFreakI guess I haven't touched anything i7
21:36.21nevcairielin combination with SMP you can get alot out of your CPU
21:36.30nevcairielof course, your OS and your apps need to play along
21:36.35nevcairieland windows is really behind on that
21:36.41NivFreakshocking
21:36.49nevcairiel(linux isnt that much better, though)
21:37.12NivFreakI'm tempted to try and make my vista box a hackintosh
21:37.18NivFreakbut i've never really looked into it
21:37.34NivFreakI have no need of windows, and I have enough linux machines around
21:37.44NivFreakbut generally I only use OSX on portables
21:37.50nevcairielsadly, none of the main stream OS'es does fully and properly use SMP/HT of the i7
21:38.02nevcairieli should write a new cpu scheduler or something
21:38.04nevcairiel:D
21:38.21NivFreakhah
21:38.22NeoTronstill I'm pretty happy with the box. it'll last me a while
21:38.33NeoTronand I am glad I did get the core i7 for when things to support it better :)
21:38.40nevcairielI was thinking about getting a i7, but i'll probably wait one generation
21:38.56Diaowaiting for 32nm die shrink?
21:39.02nevcairielmy Core2 still works fine
21:39.13NeoTronmy old computer was in such a high need of being replaced waiting 6+ months was not an option
21:39.31NeoTronit was <long before core 2 existed> generation athlon box :P
21:39.50nevcairielwell i'm still at university right now, come summer i'll probably be finished and start earning more money
21:39.53Diaoi'm playing on an athlon right now :(
21:39.57Arrowmasterhey im still using a athlon xp 3000+
21:40.00nevcairielso i dont have to compromise alot
21:40.23nevcairielArrowmaster: and you complain people dont take you in raids
21:40.23nevcairielruns
21:40.23NeoTronAthlon X2 4400
21:40.28Diaolol
21:40.30NeoTronit was a slug :P
21:40.32Diaothat's the exact same processor i'm using NeoTron
21:40.35Diaoright now :(
21:40.44NeoTronmy comp was just over 3 years old
21:40.49Diaoi get single digit fps in dalaran
21:40.56Arrowmasternevcairiel: i still get 10 fps in raids
21:40.59nevcairielI'm on a Core2 4750 and a GTS 8800, it'll hold another year
21:41.11DiaoXinhuan I'm back at flamewatch
21:41.14NeoTronworked ok in BC (some 10-15fps in hyjal especially but doable) but absolutely painful in WotLK, especially loading into dalaran etc
21:42.06Diaolol
21:42.09NeoTronand going AoE-wild in Naxxramas (multiple packs of spiders, plus other stuff) caused my FPS to drop below 1
21:42.10Diaothis gy isnt' much closer
21:42.10Diaoisn't*
21:42.10Skellumwhen 3.0 hit my machine took a crap
21:42.15Xinhuanit isn't? lol
21:42.22Xinhuanwell u know the fire elementals patch behind the tower?
21:42.24Diaoyeah it's at the eastspark workshop
21:42.27Xinhuanthat's another subzone
21:42.28Diaoyeah
21:42.30Diaook
21:42.42Skellumkills are easier to get there
21:42.46SkellumWhen WG isnt going
21:42.52Diaowg is over ;p
21:42.58Skellumwin?
21:43.02Diaoalliance did
21:43.03Diaolol
21:43.07Skellumthen its even easie
21:43.23SkellumNow they will go to farm the Revanents
21:43.33NivFreakI'm pretty sure DKs aoe and ret pally SoL are my biggest source of lag
21:43.36Xinhuani wonder if the NPCs count
21:43.41NivFreakI'm going to turn combatlogging off this week
21:43.48NivFreakand see if I see a boost
21:44.29NeoTronI find it funny to DPS on a fight like razuvious
21:44.40Primerwhy?
21:44.43NeoTronwith bad tanks (ppl not used to tanking I guess) that keep not standing on top of eachother
21:44.47NeoTronso razuvious rotates around
21:44.53Skellumahhhh
21:44.58SkellumThat has to be annoying
21:44.58NeoTronI can't SEE that he rotates because all I see is a blob of light
21:45.02PrimerI thought you were supposed to tank him with MC'd adds
21:45.10SkellumI think with my new comp, and much higher FPS my dps will increase substantialy
21:45.16NeoTronPrimer: yeah which is why the tanks suck in 25-man since they ar epriests :P
21:45.38NeoTronin 10-man the two tanks (me and another guy) does the tanking and he doesn't move
21:45.48PrimerNeoTron: heh, last week we had to have a holy priest do it...and she had NEVER mc'd anything before
21:45.55Xinhuanlooks like the NPCs dont' count
21:46.04SkellumMC is so much fun
21:46.05NivFreakNeoTron: wait what?
21:46.07Primertook like 10 pulls, with me feeding hit hit rating food every time
21:46.13NivFreakNeoTron: multiple tanks for razouvious?
21:46.14Pneumatuswe dont have a shadow priest usually, so we have hitcapped holy priests doing it :P
21:46.16Primerher, that is
21:46.25NeoTronNivFreak: of course?
21:46.26NivFreakoh
21:46.27NivFreakshit
21:46.29NivFreakI was thinking of noth
21:46.30Primerwell, we had one SP
21:47.11doom0rbangs head on desk
21:47.21Xinhuanthe problem is i dont' know how many times iv'e killed lol
21:47.29Diaolol
21:47.31PrimerI'm actually topping DPS in 25 man Naxx boss fights now, it's lovely
21:47.33Diaoi think 7
21:47.35doom0rbe nice if DUF had a comment
21:47.39doom0ryou know, like 1 or 2
21:47.40Xinhuanand
21:47.43Xinhuanyou have a debuff
21:47.48Xinhuana buff
21:47.55NivFreakPrimer: class?
21:47.56Diaochampion of the kirin tor?
21:47.57PrimerI'm thinking I should have added some sort of threat reduction to my new cloak, as opposed to having embroidered that lightweave crap
21:48.00PrimerNivFreak: warlock
21:48.04Primer0/41/30
21:48.04NivFreakah
21:48.04mitchnullxin: did you sort out your paypal issue?
21:48.05Xinhuan"Recently Slain"
21:48.09NivFreakour lock was for a while
21:48.10Diaooh
21:48.10Xinhuanno mitch
21:48.12NivFreaknow he's getting dominated
21:48.12NeoTronPrimer: so your tanks fail?
21:48.13Diaowtf
21:48.15NivFreakfury warrior > *
21:48.18Diaoi don't see that buff
21:48.20Diaolol
21:48.20Xinhuantry attacking
21:48.23Diaoi guess it's your side only
21:48.27mitchnullxin: strange...
21:48.29NeoTronPrimer: what is your DPS like on, say, patchwerk?
21:48.37NivFreakmy fury warrior hit 8100dps on thaddius last night
21:48.38NivFreaklol
21:48.40Xinhuanhmm
21:48.49PrimerNeoTron: well, that was the first boss we did, and I got 2 pieces of gear after that
21:48.54Primerreplacing blues
21:48.54steevNeoTron: as long as he's not standing in melee range should be decent :-P
21:48.57NeoTronthaddius and loetheb are highly benefitial for fury warriors it seems
21:49.06Skellumyea
21:49.07Xinhuanyeah you had a 2 min buff that i can see that says "Recently slain - will not count towards kill credit"
21:49.12Diaooh ok
21:49.12steevi <3 loetheb fight on my dk
21:49.15SkellumFuck loetheb and Pandemic not working together.
21:49.17Xinhuanthat's pretty gay
21:49.19NivFreakNeoTron: thaddius just a straight dmg boost, which is nice for deep wounds
21:49.21Diaoyeah
21:49.39PrimerNeoTron: I pulled close to 4000 dps on one of those bosses where you don't get extra damage from proximity to shit
21:49.40Diaoprobably be faster if we just trade then
21:49.46Diaosince that'll eat up the 2 min timer
21:50.06NeoTronNivFreak: and you can dps while moving
21:50.14Skellumhuzza 78
21:50.22Xinhuanyou didn't have it that time
21:50.25Diaolol
21:50.28Xinhuanso i've got my 10 kills now
21:50.30Diaook
21:50.30NeoTronPrimer: so if you don't eevn do 4000 dps (with a pet) and top DPS in a 25-man your tanks suck and you have bad dpsers :P
21:50.31Xinhuanbut
21:50.36Xinhuannot sure how many my friend needs
21:50.40Diaook
21:50.42Xinhuanbut you can also kill us back 5 times each
21:50.44Diaoi think she got 4
21:50.44PrimerNeoTron: heh, never said my raid group was the best
21:50.46Diaoor 3
21:50.51PrimerNeoTron: I'm in the scrub raid
21:51.00Skellum4400 easy.
21:51.01Xinhuando you want to? lol
21:51.04Diaosure
21:51.09Diaolet me ask a couple guildies if they want to come too
21:51.10NivFreakthe only place I've really had threat issues in wrath, is malygos
21:51.10Diaoto speed it up
21:51.11SkellumI wish I could see what I do on a sub 3 min patchwerk :(
21:51.14NivFreakand it's just my fury warrior
21:51.17NivFreakand managable
21:51.27NivFreakI vigilance him and he gets a HoS
21:51.33NivFreak3xsparks == holy shit dps
21:51.45NeoTronPrimer: mainly though you should not need a -threat enchant with that level of dps
21:51.47Diaodo i still have the debuff?
21:51.48Diaoor buff
21:51.50Xinhuanyes
21:51.51NivFreakI wish WWS would allow custom split again
21:52.07NivFreakmy lock can catch up to me on some fights, he does about 5k dps
21:52.15NivFreakbut he shatters once
21:52.17PrimerNeoTron: well, I've never needed it until this last raid. I'm down to 2 blues and I can only imagine what it'll be like when those are replaced
21:52.18NivFreakand never makes it back
21:52.19NeoTronPrimer: except on aoe trash I don't think our warlocks even use soul shatter, ever
21:52.26SkellumFuck, you seen the people with 5x sparks :p?
21:52.35doom0rwhen should a party frame get initialized, only when they get created due to a party member? or is there reason to do onload?
21:52.40NivFreakSkellum: they stack that high?
21:52.43Xinhuanhmm diao, apparently the debuff seems ppl specific
21:52.45SkellumWith druids, yes
21:52.46NivFreakI thought 3 was about as many as you can get
21:52.47NeoTronPrimer: we had a warlock do >4100 dps in 10 man patchwerk
21:52.50Diaooh
21:52.54NeoTronas affliction
21:52.56Xinhuanmy lock says he didn't see the debuff, but i did
21:52.56Diaoso only the person who got the kill gets it?
21:52.59Diaooh
21:53.01Xinhuani'm not sure
21:53.04SkellumNo, with druids you can stack 5x...and basically malyg dies before he takes off.
21:53.12NivFreakwait what?
21:53.14NivFreakSkellum: explain
21:53.14SkellumYea
21:53.18PrimerNeoTron: well, on the trash bosses for Thaddius, I pulled aggro, shattered, and after that only kept my dots up, and got aggro again shortly thereafter and got killed
21:53.22SkellumYou DG the sparks to the group, Root them.
21:53.28SkellumRoot them just before you go in the air too
21:53.29Primerso I'm not sure if one has to watch aggro on the fight, or our tanks just suck
21:53.33SkellumNo one hits the sparks
21:53.36NivFreakOH
21:53.40NivFreakinteresting
21:53.41Skellum5x sparks have come out, pop them.
21:53.42Primeror perhaps it was during the tank switch part
21:53.53NivFreakso that's two vortexes?
21:53.55SkellumThe damage multipliers allow you to have Malyg at 0% before hes out of range in P2
21:53.56NivFreakto get 5 sparks
21:53.58SkellumCorrect
21:54.02NivFreakso do you even hit p3?
21:54.06Skellumyea
21:54.10Xinhuannow chilli see sthe debuff, i don't
21:54.11NivFreakfor 1 second?
21:54.13Skellumyou still have to go through P2 and get to P3.
21:54.18Diaolol
21:54.19Xinhuanappears to be killing blow related
21:54.22Diaoyeah
21:54.29SkellumBut as soon as he pops over to being vaulnerable to be hurt hes killable, has 1hp
21:54.30Diaoand it's 2 minutes?
21:54.34NivFreakSkellum: lol
21:54.35Xinhuanappears to be 3 min
21:54.38NivFreakSkellum: I'll have to try that
21:54.40Diaooh
21:54.40Xinhuanbut by the time u reach us, its on 2 min left
21:54.43Diaooh ok
21:54.46NivFreakwe usually have 4 druids
21:54.49SkellumIts like the only way to get the "Dont have eternity" Achievement
21:54.50NivFreakso I assume we could pull that off
21:54.51Diaoi'll do a couple now i guess
21:54.55NivFreak1 feral, 1 boomkin, 2 resto
21:54.57Xinhuanif you can get a partner
21:55.04Xinhuanwe canjust trade 5 kills each for 10
21:55.04SkellumOur druids are retarded
21:55.13Diaomelee me so i can revenge
21:55.14Diaolol
21:56.11Xinhuanthink you can find a partner? lol
21:56.30Diaook i got one
21:56.31Diaoyeah
21:56.33Diaohe's heading over right now
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21:57.22Xinhuansee any debuff on me?
21:57.27Diaoyeah
21:57.28Diao59 sec left
21:58.06Diaolol
21:58.08Diaothis'll speed it up
21:58.11Diaosomeone else wanted to come as well
21:58.13Diaoso now we have 3 :D
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21:59.39Diaowish we had a warlock so we could summon :(
21:59.39Xinhuanok i have 3 too
22:00.02NivFreakwth are you doing
22:00.14Diaotrading kills for wintergrasp achievement :D
22:00.17NivFreakSkellum: yours are retarded
22:00.17NivFreak?
22:00.22NivFreakDiao: lol
22:01.15Xinhuanthey reaching soon?
22:01.24Diao1 is almost here
22:01.32Diaothe other will be here soon
22:01.46Xinhuani assume we'll have to repeat the kills here
22:01.54Diaoyeah
22:01.55Xinhuanand i loled at your druid buffing ;p
22:01.59NivFreakSkellum: it seems like you'd need to be ranged heavy to pull of that malygos strat
22:02.05Diaohe uses an autobuff mod
22:02.07NivFreakSkellum: but maybe I underestimate the power of 5 sparks
22:02.08Diaoor something
22:02.10Diaolol
22:02.16Diaojust scroll mouse and it autobuffs everyone in range
22:02.34Diaolol
22:02.39Diaonow half my guild is asking what we're doing in wg D:
22:03.27Xinhuanok kill us
22:03.30Diaook
22:03.33Xinhuanalso kill the 2 alliance down there behind u
22:03.38Xinhuanthey aren't part of us p
22:03.40Xinhuan;p
22:03.44Diaolol
22:03.45Diaook
22:03.52Diaooh that pally
22:03.54Diaolol
22:03.55Diaoa guild rogue came
22:03.57Diaoso we have 4 i guess
22:04.00Diaoeither way it's still 3 times
22:04.19Xinhuankill us first kgo
22:04.23Diaokill that pally
22:04.25Diaohe's not part of us lol
22:04.29steevKILL HIM
22:04.34Xinhuanor invite him
22:04.47Diaoi did but he declined :(
22:05.21NeoTronit seems dumb if you need 4-5 druids to get the 5 minute kill achievement to be honest
22:05.32Xinhuan1 feral 2 resto 1 boomkin
22:05.33Xinhuaneasy ;p
22:05.40NeoTronwe have 1 feral, 1 boomkin. period.
22:05.44Diaolol
22:05.48NeoTronno everyone is overflowing in druids
22:05.59NivFreakwe had 2 ferals in TBC, no boomkin, no resto
22:06.04NivFreaknow we have 4-5 druids every raid
22:06.09Xinhuansee debuff on us?
22:06.20Xinhuanok we'll kill u now?
22:06.21AckisWorkreports Xinhuan
22:06.56NeoTronnow you can probably use hunter traps too (we have 1 hunter...) but can't really target them well so might trap a druid-rooted one and break on damage
22:07.27Diaoyeah it's kb related
22:07.31Diaoi only saw one on chilli
22:09.54Diaoi wonder if you get credit as long as your party damages
22:09.57Diaolike normal hks
22:10.05Diaoor if you have to individually
22:10.41Xinhuanthe rogue left for voa10
22:10.44Diaolol
22:10.45Diaook
22:10.46Xinhuanwe have both done our 10 kills
22:10.54Repo10free-refills: 03mikk * r81 / (4 files in 1 directory): FreeRefills:
22:10.56Repo- Toss messy bank logic and use LibBagUtils-1.0 instead
22:10.56Diao1 min left on your debuff
22:10.58Repo- Now understands all specialty bags properly, not just ones that happen to be called "quiver" or "pouch"
22:10.59NivFreakso, how bad is two drakes on sartharion?
22:11.11NivFreakI want to start working on 3 drakes, but it seems smart to get 2 first
22:11.30Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1316 / (2 files in 2 directories): Make custom db entries localized.
22:11.31Xinhuanneed 2 groups of 5 grr
22:12.18Diaoyeah
22:12.20Diaolol
22:12.22MikkNivFreak: 2 drakes is a lot harder than 1. so yeah start with 2.
22:12.28Diaoi got mine but i think my party needs 1 more time
22:12.33Xinhuanyep
22:12.51NivFreakWe haven't even done 1, but I think we're generally capable and should try 2
22:13.31Repo10track-o-matique: 03StingerSoft * r53 locale.ruRU.lua: ruRU update
22:13.31NivFreakany good pointers at strats that work, or good tips in general?
22:14.30doom0r"begins to cast" only happens once it passes gcd and stun checks, correct?
22:15.10Xinhuanok we got a 3rd again
22:15.12Diaook
22:15.20Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1317 RecipeDB (2 files in 1 directory): Remove redundant entries for Runeforging.
22:15.21Xinhuanbut i think your friends just need 2 more
22:15.23Xinhuan3+3+2+2
22:15.24Diaoyeah they do
22:15.28Diaoonce the druid gets back lol
22:15.33Diaohe asked for a rez and forgot to leave the gy
22:15.38Diaoso he got rezzed there
22:15.56Diaoi'm still getting hk: whatever popping up
22:16.01Diaoso i think it counts as long as your party kills them
22:16.03Xinhuanyou may need to "untrack and retrack" the achievement
22:16.09Xinhuanto see if it gave credit for it
22:16.18Diaoi got credit earlier already lol
22:16.25Xinhuani mean your party members
22:16.30Diaooh, yeah
22:16.46Xinhuanok next subzone - cauldron of flames?
22:16.56Diaoyeah they got it
22:16.57Diaosure
22:16.58Diaowhich way?
22:17.04Xinhuanbehind the tower
22:17.05Diaobehind the tower or something?
22:17.06Diaook
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22:17.52Mikkso.. yeah... what's a raidframe addon that'll actually show drakes on malygos? :S
22:18.06Xinhuancome to the area behind
22:18.12NivFreakMikk: grid
22:18.12Arrowmasteryou mean one that shows all pets?
22:18.24MikkNivFreak: huh? really? it's NOT doing it for me
22:18.33Arrowmasteruse the unitguid branch
22:18.33NivFreakyou need the branched one
22:18.34NivFreakunitguid
22:18.36NivFreakyea
22:18.47Mikkohooo
22:18.50vhaarrdestiny7: ping
22:18.52NivFreakthat should be mainline imo
22:19.07Xinhuangot 4 now
22:19.10Xinhuanwhere's your friends
22:19.32NivFreakso people who have done 3drakes, do the powers of each add start as soon as you engage, or as they land?
22:19.33Diao1's stealthed lol
22:19.39Xinhuanok we'll go first
22:19.47ZeksieNivFreak: from the start
22:20.18Mikkand they land quickly enough anyway
22:20.35Mikkthere's roughly no way to have the 1st dead before the 2nd lands
22:20.59Zeksienot yet anyway. maybe later when ppl have generally better gear
22:21.04NivFreakI thought that was basically the strat
22:21.11NivFreakto kill the first drake before #2 lands
22:21.14Mikkhaha
22:21.16Diaodo the new people in your group want to do flamewatch too xinhuan?
22:21.18Mikkgood luck with that
22:21.19Pneumatusthe strat is to make sure the first one is dead before the 2nd one opens his portal
22:21.23Mikk1st dead before 3rd yeah maybe
22:21.27NivFreakthat's why I'm asking questions :)
22:21.33Xinhuanno
22:21.33NivFreakso are you using 3 tanks?
22:21.34Xinhuancbf
22:21.34NivFreakor 2?
22:21.38Diaook
22:21.46NivFreak(25man)
22:21.50Pneumatusif tenebron hatches a 2nd wave of whelps its basically a wipe
22:22.01Xinhuannot true at all Pneumatus
22:22.07Mikknot if they're tanked
22:22.09Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1318 / (4 files in 2 directories): Compress ZA boss drops into single entry.
22:22.14Pneumatusunless you take like 5 tanks
22:22.28NivFreakso how many tanks do you guys normally use for 25man 3drakes?
22:22.36NivFreakseems like you need 3 at least
22:22.37Pneumatus3 proper tanks and 1 pretend tank
22:22.48NivFreak1 pretend tank being say a DK in dps gear?
22:22.52NivFreakin frost presence
22:23.01Mikkthat works
22:23.03NivFreakor just anyone mail+
22:23.09NivFreakthe pretend tank is for inside the portal?
22:23.28NeoTronis it sarth tank, drake tank, everything else tank + portal tank?
22:23.31Pneumatuswe have 1 tank on sarth, 1 tank on tenebron, 1 tank on shaddron, then the tenebron tank takes vesperon
22:23.42NeoTronPneumatus: who tanks the other adds?
22:23.44Pneumatusand the final tank tanks the whelps/lava dudes
22:23.53NeoTronthen who tanks the dude in the portal?
22:23.55NivFreakso best geared tank on sarth, 2nd on shaddron, 3rd on tenebron/vesperon?
22:23.57Pneumatusthe pretend tank
22:24.02Xinhuanour 2 friends need an extra 30 seconds
22:24.24NivFreakNeoTron: I've heard some people even use enh shaman to tank inside the portals
22:24.39Pneumatusyeh, you dont really need anything special tanking inside the portal, you just gank the crap out of it
22:24.51NeoTronPneumatus: when we tried that (in 10-man) ppl died
22:25.01Mikk10man is harder than 25man tbfh
22:25.12Pneumatusyeh, 10man 3 drakes is the hardest encounter in game
22:25.14Diaoyeah
22:25.14NeoTronbut I doubt the add inside hits harder
22:25.18NivFreakthat makes 2 encounters in wrath that's the case then
22:25.40HirsuteI thought Loken was the hardest encounter in the game?
22:25.45NivFreaklol
22:25.46Pneumatusheh
22:25.52Mikknah, gods are sissies
22:25.54viisual|workGrr, soap is driving me nuts.
22:25.56Mikkdragons is where it's at
22:25.58Hirsute(I haven't raided at all yet, school's kept me from levelling)
22:26.02NivFreakI'd say grobbulus in naxx is the only thing I've done that's harder in 10man than 25man
22:26.05Arrowmasterloken is a pushover
22:26.08Pneumatusloken is the hardest non-raid encounter
22:26.13NivFreakand mainly just because of chain injected healers
22:26.14NivFreakRNG ftw
22:26.31Mikkget a restodruid, problem solved :P
22:26.44NivFreakI think that was holy pally/resto shaman
22:26.45Pneumatusin 10man we dispell the diseases and spamheal :>
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22:26.48SkellumGrrrr!
22:26.51NivFreakPneumatus: lol
22:26.52NivFreakwhy
22:26.56Pneumatusfor fun
22:26.59NivFreakhaha
22:27.03NivFreakit's certainly not hard
22:27.07NivFreakjust harder than the 25man version
22:27.10NivFreakwhich is a total joke
22:27.11SkellumWe had a group of like 5 xfers coming over to our server. We have an imbalance of about 2:1 alliance to horde. Our servers xfers just got closed.
22:27.12*** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ
22:27.15SkellumFucking stupid fucking alliance
22:27.18Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1319 RecipeDB (6 files in 1 directory): Compress MC drops into a single entry for all professions
22:27.22Pneumatussaph 10man is harder than 25man
22:27.39Mikkonly with 2 healers
22:27.42NivFreakPneumatus: no
22:27.42Mikk3 healers = zz
22:27.51NivFreakPneumatus: it's totally trivial
22:28.04Pneumatusall encounters with 3 healers is zzz :P
22:28.19NivFreakwell really it just depends on what healers you bring ;)
22:28.27NivFreak2xholy pally would suck for sapph
22:28.32AckisWork~wowspell 3494
22:28.33purlhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=3494 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=3494
22:28.38AckisWorkhas not killed saph!
22:28.39Pneumatuswe've done saph with holy pally + disc priest
22:28.53NivFreakdisc priest is hot
22:28.55NivFreakPoM rocks that fight
22:29.01NivFreaklike seriously rocks it
22:29.20Pneumatusholy priests PoMs are better than disc priest poms :P
22:29.28Pneumatusdue to shorter cooldown
22:29.58NivFreakI was saying vs holy pallyx2
22:30.14NivFreakI wonder if the CoH/WG nerf will really make holy pallies useful again
22:30.18Pneumatusthey would have 2x bacon though
22:30.21NivFreakI have no desire for more than 1 in a raid atm
22:30.26Pneumatusenough bacon for everyone!
22:30.35NivFreakthere's never enough bacon for everyone
22:30.41NivFreakand bacon + HL glyph only go so far
22:31.24Pneumatusthere should be a penance glyph to remove the cooldown and make it instant cast tbh
22:31.36NivFreakbtw, doesn't disc PoM hit harder?
22:31.50Xinhuandiao after this round go Eastspark workshop
22:31.50Pneumatusnah, its severly gimped compared to holy pom
22:31.52Diaook
22:31.58Diaothat's where we spawn
22:32.01Diaolol
22:32.01Xinhuanya
22:32.20Pneumatusthe only thing a disc PoM does that a holy one doesnt is leave divine aegis behind on a crit
22:32.22Pneumatusand probably grace
22:33.06Diaorofl
22:33.10NivFreaknot grace afaik
22:33.11Diaoyour dk respawned as a ghoul
22:33.17vhaarrdamn playing bluray h264 through vdpau rocks
22:33.31NivFreakand yes, crit poms I imagine would proc DA (but I'm not sure)
22:33.41NivFreakI'm letting one of my holy priests go disc post 3.0.8
22:33.49NivFreakI'm curious to see how it works out
22:34.07Pneumatusi raid as disc just for mitigation for sarth+3
22:34.24Pneumatusfucking useless spec for actually healing tho
22:34.35Pneumatuscant even compete with holy pallies
22:34.37NivFreakthere's certainly a lot of debate about it
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22:34.49AckisWork~wowspell 3496
22:34.50purlhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=3496 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=3496
22:34.59NivFreakyou have higher throughput than a holy pally as far as I know
22:35.31Diaolol
22:35.34Pneumatusdisc is largely about getting damage mitigated though through grace and shield/aegis
22:35.34Diaowe can attack the mammoth?
22:35.38Xinhuanyes lol
22:35.42ShefkiI was under the impresion disc had a lot of bugs right now which are holding it back.
22:35.43NivFreakPneumatus: yes
22:36.00AeyanDisc is more fun than holy in 5-mans by a significant amount
22:36.02AeyanHehe
22:36.04Xinhuanthe mammoth counts as a death shield
22:36.10Xinhuanu can jump off a high palce with it, mamoth dies, but u live
22:36.18Pneumatusmy spec is also bugged, due to the fact i still proc Surge of Light on PoM crits, which ive not been talented for for weeks and weeks
22:36.25NivFreakXinhuan: that's why I bought a mammoth
22:36.30Diaooh
22:36.31NivFreakXinhuan: getting nerfed though =(
22:36.31Diaonice
22:37.06HirsuteIt's getting nerfed?  Are Mammoths not going to have their own HP any more?
22:37.12Xinhuandunno
22:37.12NivFreakright
22:37.16NivFreakthey are becoming mounts
22:37.20NivFreakno more vehicle mounts
22:37.22HirsuteOooh, where is this detailed?
22:37.28NivFreakblue post a while back
22:37.33NivFreakthey are attempting to change it with 3.1
22:37.34HirsuteAny ETA?
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22:37.38HirsuteOkay
22:37.48NivFreakbut of course the normal non-commital maybe in 3.1 or something later answer
22:37.58AeyanThat sucks, there's advantages and disadvantages to both right now
22:38.00NivFreakI don't want it fixed
22:38.02NivFreakyes
22:38.16NivFreakthe mount/dismount are the major disadvantage to the mammoth
22:38.17AeyanVehicles stop the malicious druid =P
22:38.21Pneumatusi only use my tundra mammoth to buy reagents :<
22:38.25NivFreakbut the relogging without your vehicle is another
22:38.29NivFreakmuch worse for carpet users though :)
22:38.37AeyanHehe
22:38.44NivFreakwhat I like, is getting repentanced
22:38.49NivFreakand riding away on my mammoth
22:38.49NivFreaklol
22:38.50Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1320 / (4 files in 3 directories): Update some more missing acquire recipes
22:39.01NivFreakI also like to ride my blizzcon bear on top of my mammoth
22:39.09NivFreakwhen the mammoth dies I keep running on the blizzcon bear
22:39.16NivFreakit's so amazing
22:39.18AeyanThat's awesome
22:39.34AeyanWrong, but awesome
22:39.48NivFreakI figured, 20K gold was worth these perks until they nerfed
22:39.56NivFreakand afteward at least I always have vendors with me
22:40.11NivFreakI hope more zone are like malygos where I can mount for repairs/reagents inside
22:40.12Xinhuandiao: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.wowinsider.com/media/2008/12/zach_wintegrasp_guide_ranger.jpg
22:40.33NivFreakmalygos/sartharion
22:40.47steevoh snap
22:41.00steevi bet the forest of shadows is where to farm the crystalized shadows
22:41.07steevthanks Xinhuan
22:41.44AckisWorkXinhuan: notice any wrongly located NPCs in ARL?
22:41.52Xinhuansteev: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.wowinsider.com/media/2008/12/zach_wintegrasp_guide_farming.jpg
22:41.55Diaoah ok
22:42.14Xinhuanglacial falls next
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22:42.59purlhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=20015 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=20015
22:44.03Diaook
22:45.12Xinhuanwaiting on other 2
22:45.45Diaogo ahead and kill my group first, my wow crashed lol
22:45.57Diaologging in now
22:46.49Xinhuanya, doesn't matter much its still 3 trips
22:48.55Xinhuanyour wow is taking forever to load
22:49.16Diaoyeah
22:49.22AckisWork~wowspell 27958
22:49.23purlhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=27958 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=27958
22:50.41Repo10considerater: 03catamorfizm 040.8beta * b36f6ae /: [new tag] Tagging eighth beta
22:50.47Repo10arl: 03TrAsHeR * r1321 Locals/ARLLocals-frFR.lua: frFR update
22:52.18NivFreakAckisWork: is that even mildly useful? :P
22:52.36AckisWorkyes
22:52.37Xinhuanwe're getting a 5th
22:52.38AckisWorkI'm lazy
22:52.44Diaook
22:52.48Diaolet me ask again in guild
22:53.04Xinhuanalso today's daily is glacial falls
22:53.10Xinhuani think?
22:53.11AckisWork~wowspell 44383
22:53.11purlhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=44383 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=44383
22:53.12Xinhuannot sure lol
22:53.21Diaothe only dailies i saw at horde camp were uh
22:53.30Diaosomething about killing 20 alli and then riding a siege engine
22:53.56Diaoaw we have no more 80s
22:53.57Diao:(
22:54.02Diaothat are online lol
22:54.29Xinhuanhurry up >.<
22:55.06Xinhuanhe's not one of us
22:55.20Xinhuanthe GoD DK that is
22:55.46Diaoyeah
22:55.51Diaolol
22:56.12Diaohit and run :(
22:57.03Xinhuanhas your whole group finished glacial falls?
22:57.06Xinhuanor need 1 more trip?
22:57.24Diaostill need it i think
22:57.36Diaothat hit and run dk ran away
22:57.40Diaoand we didn't get a kill from him
22:57.44Xinhuanah
22:58.23Diaohmm
22:58.27Diaoare achievements tracked client side?
22:58.30Xinhuanyes
22:58.35Xinhuanif you crash, gg
22:58.37Diaooh
22:58.39Diaoboo
22:58.42Diaooh well, whatever
22:58.52Diaodid your entire group get this zone already?
22:58.56Xinhuanyes
22:58.58Diaooh
22:59.11Xinhuannot really
22:59.15Diaolol
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23:01.39Diaowhat's the next zone?
23:01.48Xinhuanwinter's edge
23:01.50Xinhuanwinter's edge tower
23:01.53Diaook
23:04.45Xinhuanok we go first
23:04.55CIA-34gnomishauctionshrinker: 03Tekkub 07master * r8139eb5 10/ GnomishAuctionShrinker.lua : Add buyout limit of 300g to prevent accidental major purchases with alt-click - http://is.gd/eJll
23:05.36NivFreakI still haven't figured out how to tell auctioneer to buy me X of Y for Z each without clicking OK for each auction
23:06.10AnaralNivFreak: Have you tried EasyBuyout?
23:06.21AnaralIt's part of Auc
23:06.35NivFreakI tried one of the modules
23:06.38NivFreakummm
23:06.43NivFreakdon't think it was that one
23:07.07AnaralThere are many modules with Auc. Which package do you have and version?
23:07.20Diaothese horde pats are getting in the way :(
23:07.21Fisker-LOL
23:07.23NivFreakone second
23:07.24HirsuteNivFreak: I'm not sure I'm following what you're wanting to do.
23:07.29NivFreakoh this doesn't do quite what I want
23:07.47NivFreakI want to say, buy me the cheapest 1000 lichbloom for no more than 2G per herb
23:07.48NivFreakgo
23:07.50doom0rcries
23:07.52NivFreakand click ok once
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23:08.09AnaralOh, yeah, you can't do that
23:08.10HirsuteIt isn't currently possible.
23:08.16AnaralThat's a blizz limitation
23:08.26doom0rDUF is assigning UIDROPDOWNMENU_OPEN_MENU and at some point i end up with a table :X
23:08.38HirsuteBids (and buyouts are just a special bid) must be initiated by a hardware event.
23:08.40doom0rthis crap is a mess
23:08.41AnaralIt'd also be botting, so yeah.
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23:10.48Xinhuanyou kill us, we kill you, then next zone, westspark workshop
23:11.16Repo10o-uf_ammo: 03Ammo * r65 Ammo.lua: combopoints are handy for everyone on malygos
23:11.25Diaoah
23:11.27Diaook
23:11.35Xinhuanwe have 5 so u only need 2 rounds
23:11.42Diaoyep
23:11.57Xinhuandid it rollback only one subzone for u?
23:12.10Diao2
23:12.25Diaosomehow i got credit for the flamewatch tower but not eastspark or cauldron
23:12.30Diaono big deal though
23:12.37Xinhuanhmm
23:12.45Xinhuancan arrange that separately later
23:12.48Diaoyeah
23:12.58WobWorkalso, good luck at getting lichbloom for 2g =)
23:13.44NivFreakI bought about 5000G worth :P
23:13.46NivFreakat that price
23:14.12NivFreakand it's lame that this is limiting
23:14.21NivFreakI hate having to lick 20 times for shit people list 1 of
23:14.37Xinhuanour lock died to some random horde
23:14.46Diaolol
23:16.01HirsuteNivFreak: *nod* Unfortunately, it's a Blizzard limitation that requires that confirmation click.
23:16.09Diaowestspark now?
23:16.13Xinhuanya
23:17.52Xinhuanwe'll go first
23:18.27NivFreakHirsute: lame
23:18.30Diaokill that pally
23:18.32Diaoi told him to stop
23:18.38Diaohe didn't want to join party
23:18.53HirsuteNivFreak: It prevents botting though, which is good.
23:19.24NivFreakI suppose
23:19.38selckinit doesn't
23:19.48NivFreakI could bot it with a 3rd party app
23:19.55NivFreak:P
23:20.01NivFreakaka applescript
23:20.03Repo10skinner: 03Jncl 07master * b1.9183.19-2-gf62bb97 / (7 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
23:20.03NivFreakhehe
23:20.05HirsuteNivFreak: Yes, but that's a lot easier to detect than botting with an addon.
23:20.06Repof62bb97: Skinner: Skinned CallToArms
23:20.08Repo6644519: Skinner: Updated epgp skin
23:20.18selckinno its not
23:20.22NivFreakHirsute: I don't think blizzard has a clue about applescript botting
23:20.32HirsuteNivFreak: That's possible.
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23:20.50HirsuteI suppose Warden doesn't work on Macs, does it?
23:20.57Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1322 / (8 files in 3 directories):
23:20.58NivFreakwho knows
23:21.00RepoFix a bunch of missing acquire recipes, looks like we're done to 68 without info and most of those are JC
23:21.08NivFreakthey don't exactly disclose what it does
23:21.38NivFreakAckisWork: why does ARL know about the 162 recipes in game atm? :)
23:21.42AckisWork@project arl
23:21.43RepoAckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Elkano (Author), Jim-Bim (Author), Zhinjio (Author). Updated: 8 seconds ago. Tickets: 7/312
23:21.45Repo10skinner: 03Jncl 04b1.9183.21 * f1a381d /: [new tag]  Tagging as b1.9183.21
23:21.47HirsuteNivFreak: It's true, though some reverse engineering has exposed a lot of what it does, that's all been done on Windows.  I don't know if they even actually *have* a Warden for MacOS
23:21.57AckisWorkNivFreak: 162 recipes for... what?
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23:22.42Hirsuteselckin: I should have said that it prevents *some* botting.
23:22.44NivFreakcooking sorry
23:22.54NivFreakHirsute: I assume they do
23:23.13NivFreakbut I run an afk bot pretty regularly (just in town before raids)
23:23.18NivFreakand I've never had a problme
23:23.22NivFreakjust a simple apple script I wrote
23:23.49AckisWorkNivFreak: it only know about 158 right now, once hte patch hits I'll update it so it knows about 162
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23:24.09selckinused the be a thing where if you had auction window open you never disconeccted
23:24.11selckinthat still work?
23:24.19NivFreakAckisWork: it should be 164 after patch
23:24.29NivFreakthere's 166 known recipes atm
23:24.34AckisWorkNivFreak: they're adding 6 to the game?
23:24.35NivFreak4 of which are missing ways to obtain them
23:24.47Hirsuteselckin: I don't know, I've never tried.
23:24.50Diaolol
23:24.53Diaoyou'll get credit in 2 now i guess
23:24.55Diaowith the 2 pallies?
23:25.11NivFreakAckisWork: there's 162 that are obtainable now, there will be 164 after the patch
23:25.19Xinhuanerm
23:25.23Xinhuanwe didn't kill in range of the workshop
23:25.26Diaooh
23:25.27Diaocrap
23:25.28Diaolol
23:25.34AckisWorkNivFreak: there's only 158 available now
23:25.38NivFreakAckisWork: there are 166 of them specified now, but 4 are unobtainable
23:25.52NivFreak2 are being added in 3.0.8 to vendors, 2 are being removed
23:25.59NivFreakbrining us to the 164 for the achievement
23:26.00AckisWorkif there were 166 in game, I'd have the 160 achievement
23:26.17NivFreaker, is my math wrong?
23:26.20NivFreakone sec
23:26.31AckisWorkthere's 158 right now, plus they're adding 4 in 3.08 for 162 total
23:26.38doom0rno
23:26.39NivFreakshit
23:26.40NivFreaksorry
23:26.41doom0rthere's 159 available
23:26.43NivFreakmy numbers are wrong
23:26.52NivFreak44 northrend
23:26.53NivFreaklol
23:26.55doom0ri have 158 and am missing dig rat stew
23:27.01NivFreak(I was doing it from memory)
23:27.12NivFreakok, ignore me
23:27.26Diaowe got credit so we're letting fenryr kill the pally lol
23:27.27NivFreakAckisWork: pretty sure they are only adding 2 though
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23:27.35NivFreakAckisWork: they removed the other 2
23:27.36Xinhuanyour entire group all done?
23:27.41Diaoyeah
23:27.51AckisWorkNivFreak: ahh not sure about that detail haven't checked on PTR
23:27.54NivFreakAckisWork: Succulent Orca Stew and  Shoveltusk Soup  are removed
23:28.01doom0rAckisWork: you're missing something, definitely 159 available
23:28.16Arrowmasterwhy are they removing those?
23:28.26NivFreakArrowmaster: they aren't obtainable
23:28.31AckisWorkNivFreak: the other two, will they be added to the vendor?
23:28.42NivFreakRecipe: Fish Feast will be sold for 5 Dalaran Cooking Awards.
23:28.44NivFreakRecipe: Kungaloosh will be taught by a drunkard in the Dalaran Sewers.
23:28.46doom0rfish feast will make 160
23:29.01doom0rthen you only have to deal with northrend gourmet needing another
23:29.04doom0ror 2
23:29.07Shefkidoom0r: Some people are getting credit for 1-2 extra recipes.
23:29.31doom0ri printed the list of mine
23:29.42XinhuanChilli still needs
23:29.43doom0ryou get cooking fire and the book iirc
23:29.45Diaook
23:29.48Xinhuanother 4 of us done
23:29.58Arrowmasterbook?
23:30.02doom0rcooking book
23:30.04ShefkiIf you do GetNumTradeSkills() with cooking open and compare it to your achievement you'll find you have credit for more usually.
23:30.08ShefkiBut it's not consistent.
23:30.14ShefkiI'm maxed out, have the cooking fire...
23:30.16ShefkiBut only have 1.
23:30.28ShefkiOthers in the same position as me have credit for 2.
23:30.32ShefkiSo it's bugged.
23:30.39AckisWorkdoom0r: don't pay attention to what it says in your achievement window that's wrong
23:30.46Arrowmasterare you a rogue?
23:30.49XinhuanChilled quagmire next
23:30.54ShefkiAnd no I'm not a rogue.
23:30.54Diaook
23:30.57doom0rno, not a rogue
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23:33.41AckisWork~api getbuildinfo
23:33.41purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_getbuildinfo
23:34.32Arrowmaster~literal cmd: api (.*?)
23:34.33purl"cmd: api (.*?)" is "($1): http://www.wowwiki.com/API_$1"
23:35.19Xinhuankill us
23:35.26Arrowmasterpurl, no, cmd: api (.*?) is ($1): !api $1
23:35.26purlArrowmaster: okay
23:35.36Arrowmaster~api getbuildinfo
23:35.37purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_getbuildinfo
23:35.49Arrowmaster....
23:36.03Arrowmaster~literal cmd: api (.*?)
23:36.03purl"cmd: api (.*?)" is "($1): http://www.wowwiki.com/API_$1"
23:36.39Diaothe pally joined our group
23:38.17Xinhuanafter your round, next location is shadowsight tower
23:38.21Diaook
23:39.39doom0rShefki: have you confirmed goldthorn tea not being bugged?
23:39.51Xinhuanwhats bugged about it
23:40.20doom0rsome patch broke it for some people
23:40.23doom0rdon't remember the details
23:40.29Xinhuanu can learn it back free in RFD
23:40.35Arrowmastereverybody unlearnt it on one patch
23:40.43Arrowmasteryou just had to go back to RFD
23:41.02doom0rthen it's gotta be campfire or book if not
23:41.33Diaohmm
23:41.34Diaoweird
23:41.39Diaonone of us got credit for quag for some reason
23:41.47Xinhuano_O
23:41.49Diaomaybe need to refresh track
23:41.52Xinhuantry it
23:41.55Xinhuanrefresh track
23:41.56Diaonope
23:41.57Diaodidn't work
23:42.04Diaojust do the tower first
23:47.26Xinhuanquagmire after this ?
23:47.28Diaoyeah
23:47.34Xinhuanany of your group needs flamewatch?
23:47.42Diaothe new pally might
23:47.44Diaorest of us should have it
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23:49.20Xinhuankill me
23:49.24Xinhuanshould only need 1 kill
23:49.31Diaolol
23:49.31Diaouh
23:49.35Diaoyou have the debuff for me :(
23:49.40Xinhuanlol
23:49.43Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1323 RecipeDB/ARL-Cook.lua:
23:49.44Diao1 min left
23:49.45RepoMake the new cooking recipes automagically appear in 3.0.8 using a lot of smoke, mirrors and gnomes.
23:50.55Xinhuanall done?
23:51.04Diaochecking with everyone
23:51.11Diaoyeah we got it
23:51.37Xinhuananyone needs any of the older subzones?
23:51.44Diaobroken temple or sunken ring
23:51.52NivFreakAckis: the achievement window is wrong?
23:52.08Xinhuanbroken temple then
23:52.11Diaook
23:52.44ShefkiNivFreak: See what I said above.
23:52.48Xinhuanwe'll go first
23:52.55Diaook
23:53.11NivFreakhrm, interesting
23:53.40NivFreakyou rogues cheat
23:53.42NivFreakfor thistle tea
23:54.00NivFreak(not you)
23:54.06ShefkiThey should just let everyone learn it at this point.
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23:54.12ShefkiIt's not even that useful anymore.
23:54.16NivFreakor just make it base :P
23:54.33NivFreakthen again, it wouldn't be the first useless recipe in game
23:55.39ShefkiYeah I know.  But why not let anyone make it and just still restrict use to Rogues.
23:55.59ShefkiIt wouldn't hurt anything at this point.
23:57.20Xinhuango sunken ring after this
23:57.25Diaook
23:57.49Diaoer wait
23:57.52Diao30 sec til debuff is gone lol
23:58.30Xinhuandone?
23:58.33Diaoyeah
23:58.39Diaogoing to sunken ring now
23:58.41Xinhuanwe're porting to sunken ring GY
23:58.51Xinhuanu can talk to the Gy resser while dead
23:58.53Xinhuanto port between GYs
23:58.58Diaoyeah
23:59.00Diaoyou told me earlier :P
23:59.26doom0rsighs
23:59.40doom0r324 queue just to log another char to have a controllable party member for debugging

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