| 00:13.09 | Repo | 10charge-meter: 03Starinnia * r17 ChargeMeter.lua: |
| 00:13.12 | Repo | wrap some debug lines in the @alpha@ and @end-alpha@ replacement flags |
| 00:13.25 | Skellum | lol...apparently my guild now has a rank "Shitty DK alt" |
| 00:13.56 | [dRaCo] | we |
| 00:14.01 | [dRaCo] | nice idea |
| 00:18.23 | ckknight | Skellum: lol |
| 00:18.34 | ckknight | so I'm thinking of starting playing WoW |
| 00:18.37 | kenlyric | why so redundant? |
| 00:18.47 | kenlyric | oh god no! |
| 00:19.00 | kenlyric | don't do it |
| 00:19.54 | SunTsu | And I keep thinking about switching main to DK |
| 00:19.59 | ckknight | why not, kenlyric? |
| 00:20.11 | ckknight | btw, I'm thinking non-DK, because I'm not a conformist |
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| 00:20.13 | ckknight | :P |
| 00:21.10 | doom0r | pallies are win |
| 00:21.24 | SunTsu | ckknight: My current main is feral druid and I don't fully like the current itemization. No int on my items, so no healing myself, because I regularly burn my mana pool just by switching forms... |
| 00:21.27 | Pneumatus | what did you play previously ckknight? |
| 00:21.41 | ckknight | Pneumatus: Pally, but I got kinda tired of her. I'm thinking of rolling a priest |
| 00:21.46 | ckknight | note: I like healing for some ungodly reason |
| 00:21.54 | ckknight | I consider healing mathematical masturbation |
| 00:22.03 | Pneumatus | disc healing is much like pally healing |
| 00:22.06 | doom0r | ckknight: you will be disappointed in preists then |
| 00:22.10 | Pneumatus | only with more toys |
| 00:22.17 | SunTsu | And it really sucks to stand in front of mobs and having to dring a mana potion just to get into my form |
| 00:22.18 | ckknight | doom0r: oh? |
| 00:22.26 | doom0r | retards can heal well with a priest atm |
| 00:22.31 | ckknight | what should I roll? |
| 00:22.39 | ckknight | I'm good at healing and managing multiple things at once. |
| 00:22.46 | Pneumatus | resto druid then |
| 00:22.47 | ckknight | I'll be rolling an ally |
| 00:22.49 | doom0r | druid |
| 00:22.54 | ckknight | hrm |
| 00:22.57 | ckknight | I could do that |
| 00:22.58 | Pneumatus | rolling hots on multiple tanks will keep you nice and busy |
| 00:23.01 | doom0r | nothing like being resto and switching to offtank |
| 00:23.04 | doom0r | mid fight |
| 00:23.10 | ckknight | P.S. I hate cat form |
| 00:23.20 | ckknight | how do I level well without hating myself? |
| 00:23.25 | doom0r | you don't |
| 00:23.28 | Pneumatus | you can level boomkin in resto/cloth gear |
| 00:23.36 | doom0r | druid leveling sucks |
| 00:23.40 | Aiiane | restokin go! |
| 00:23.45 | ckknight | this means I have to be a Nelf :-( |
| 00:23.49 | ckknight | le sigh |
| 00:23.58 | WobWork | it's true |
| 00:24.01 | doom0r | shadowmeld is nice though |
| 00:24.04 | WobWork | but if you're in form the majority of the time |
| 00:24.07 | Pneumatus | or you could roll shaman and they you'd have to be draenai |
| 00:24.08 | WobWork | you won't see yourself =P |
| 00:24.12 | ckknight | WobWork: at least that :-) |
| 00:24.20 | ckknight | Pneumatus: I like Draenei |
| 00:24.22 | ckknight | I dunno, though |
| 00:24.27 | ckknight | how're Resto Shamans? |
| 00:24.30 | WobWork | ckknight: go feral til 40 then boomkin |
| 00:24.39 | WobWork | then resto |
| 00:24.43 | ckknight | WobWork: as I said, I hate cat form |
| 00:24.53 | Pneumatus | resto shamans are pretty much as good as they've always been |
| 00:24.54 | WobWork | ckknight: same, but it's the fastest way to level |
| 00:25.01 | WobWork | til 40 at least |
| 00:25.10 | ckknight | :( |
| 00:25.13 | Pneumatus | and with a shaman you get the choice of levelling either as enhance or elemental |
| 00:25.15 | WobWork | ckknight: unless you get guildies to instance you up |
| 00:25.17 | Aiiane | the problem is that most of the other healers, once you get to raids, aren't very exciting in terms of healing |
| 00:25.22 | ckknight | WobWork: I have no guild, I don't play |
| 00:25.25 | Aiiane | granted, neither are druids, but hey :P |
| 00:25.29 | Skellum | Resto shaman are right about where a healer should be in this game |
| 00:25.49 | WobWork | ckknight: well, then you can be a tauren druid =) |
| 00:25.51 | Mackatack | ckknight: just make a macro that sequences all the catform abilities and spam it :P |
| 00:25.58 | ckknight | Shefki: you should finish Auras so that I can play with PB4 :( |
| 00:26.00 | ckknight | :P |
| 00:26.01 | Skellum | Personally I have quite a bit of fun healing on a holy priest |
| 00:26.11 | ckknight | Mackatack: hehe |
| 00:26.23 | Aiiane | 5man healing is much more fun than raid healing, imo |
| 00:26.24 | ckknight | WobWork: nah, everyone I know does Allies |
| 00:26.27 | WobWork | My shammy leveled about 3 levels with a couple of runs of ZF |
| 00:26.29 | Pneumatus | my main is a healing priest, but im disc and i hate it :P |
| 00:26.36 | Skellum | Aii, raid healing is relaxing |
| 00:26.38 | WobWork | and that was just with a 73 DK running through |
| 00:26.42 | Pneumatus | i'm only disc will we nail sartharion+3 |
| 00:26.43 | Skellum | Raid DPSing is stressful |
| 00:26.45 | Pneumatus | *while |
| 00:26.48 | Aiiane | sometimes though you dont want to relax |
| 00:26.52 | Aiiane | because relaxing is boring |
| 00:26.54 | WobWork | 1-70 levelling is super fast now |
| 00:27.01 | Skellum | which is why the healer is an alt :3 |
| 00:27.07 | Pneumatus | yeh, levelling is really quick now regardless though |
| 00:27.14 | Skellum | Do it RAF wobwork and its even faster |
| 00:27.19 | WobWork | truedat |
| 00:27.21 | doom0r | superfast is an understatement |
| 00:27.26 | Aiiane | anywho, foodtiem |
| 00:27.29 | WobWork | but that involves another account |
| 00:27.32 | doom0r | my rogue left hellfire after 80 quests at 65 |
| 00:27.48 | WobWork | (and a friend =)) |
| 00:27.48 | Pneumatus | ckknight: poke zygor for his guide and powerlevel it |
| 00:27.53 | Skellum | noms a bite of aii's food |
| 00:27.56 | SunTsu | I hate healing - except with my pally ;) |
| 00:27.59 | ckknight | Pneumatus: I worked with zygor before |
| 00:28.11 | Pneumatus | yeh, you said before which is why im guessing he'd give you a copy :P |
| 00:28.32 | ckknight | eh, I think I'm gonna watch Invader Zim instead |
| 00:28.35 | ckknight | for now |
| 00:28.57 | Skellum | Dun dun dunnnnnnnnnn |
| 00:29.10 | ckknight | let's all sing the doom song |
| 00:29.22 | Skellum | Seen the Santa Episode? |
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| 00:31.09 | Repo | 10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r731 AutoBarCategory.lua: -- Warlock Soul Link added to Shield Button |
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| 00:35.52 | pomp | why would I be getting this error? : http://pastebin.com/d565f7ed7 |
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| 00:36.27 | [dRaCo] | because you're missing LibFail? |
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| 00:38.46 | Arrowmaster | what is SlideBar |
| 00:38.53 | WobWork | What is FailBoat? |
| 00:39.08 | Arrowmaster | something sylvanaar is making |
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| 00:40.17 | pomp | libfail-1.0 is in the lib folder in failboat. |
| 00:40.43 | doom0r | omfg, why is every zim video on youtube some horrible musical crap |
| 00:40.48 | pomp | slidebar has to do with auctioneer |
| 00:41.23 | WobWork | pomp: is it in the toc? |
| 00:41.35 | pomp | Notes: Allows alternative placement of minimap icons into an expanding bar tab that sits on the side of the screen. |
| 00:42.23 | pomp | the optdeps for failboat? |
| 00:42.25 | WobWork | I hate minimap icons now |
| 00:42.38 | pomp | ## OptDeps: LibFail-1.0, LibSink-2.0, Ace3, LibSharedMedia-3.0, AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets |
| 00:43.04 | WobWork | there has to be some toc that loads LibFail in the first place |
| 00:43.21 | WobWork | otherwise it won't be able to find the library to load |
| 00:43.27 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar fails, why the fuck does he put a lib.xml in his own library but then directly load the lua file instead of the lib.xml in his own addon |
| 00:44.24 | Arrowmaster | did you download the nolib zip? |
| 00:44.35 | Arrowmaster | did you delete the embeds.xml or includes.xml? |
| 00:44.52 | pomp | I downloaded the nolib zip |
| 00:44.59 | Arrowmaster | then thats why |
| 00:45.50 | doom0r | protip: nolib means no libraries |
| 00:46.00 | pomp | but libfail-1.0 is in the lib at |
| 00:46.02 | pomp | atm* |
| 00:46.06 | Arrowmaster | doesnt matter |
| 00:46.07 | pomp | folder |
| 00:46.09 | pomp | kk |
| 00:46.14 | Arrowmaster | the nolib zip still wont load it |
| 00:46.19 | pomp | gotcha |
| 00:46.24 | Arrowmaster | dont download the nolib zips unless you know what you are doing |
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| 00:54.06 | ckknight | I think I'm gonna make a shaman |
| 00:54.19 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 00:54.22 | ckknight | actually, still wrestling between shaman and druid |
| 00:54.41 | ckknight | but I can do it at the same time while watching Invader Zim |
| 00:54.43 | ckknight | hey Funkeh` |
| 00:54.47 | WobWork | flip a coin |
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| 00:55.28 | ckknight | WobWork: hmm |
| 00:55.44 | ckknight | lua> math.random(1, 2) |
| 00:55.45 | lua_bot | ckknight: 2 |
| 00:55.54 | ckknight | shaman it is. |
| 00:56.18 | Adirelle | that's partial |
| 00:56.21 | Aiiane | on the upside, no kitty form |
| 00:56.29 | Adirelle | lua> {"shaman","druid"}[math.random(2)] |
| 00:56.29 | lua_bot | Adirelle: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '{' |
| 00:56.31 | Aiiane | on the downside, chainhealchainhealchainhealchainhealchainhealchainheal |
| 00:56.34 | WobWork | also on the upside, ghostwolf |
| 00:56.56 | ckknight | Adirelle: (select(math.random(1, 2), "Shaman", "Druid")) |
| 00:56.59 | Pneumatus | nah, shamans aren't all chainheal these days |
| 00:57.05 | ckknight | lua> (select(math.random(1, 2), "Shaman", "Druid")) |
| 00:57.06 | lua_bot | ckknight: Druid |
| 00:57.09 | Adirelle | ah ! |
| 00:57.10 | Adirelle | xD |
| 00:57.12 | ckknight | lua> (select(math.random(1, 2), "Shaman", "Druid")) |
| 00:57.13 | lua_bot | ckknight: Druid |
| 00:57.16 | ckknight | lua> (select(math.random(1, 2), "Shaman", "Druid")) |
| 00:57.17 | lua_bot | ckknight: Druid |
| 00:57.18 | ckknight | lua> (select(math.random(1, 2), "Shaman", "Druid")) |
| 00:57.19 | lua_bot | ckknight: Druid |
| 00:57.20 | Funkeh` | curse dead again? |
| 00:57.23 | Aiiane | lol |
| 00:57.24 | Pneumatus | LOL |
| 00:57.26 | ckknight | hmm |
| 00:57.29 | ckknight | =math.random(1,2) |
| 00:57.36 | WobWork | I think the RNG is trying to tell you something =P |
| 00:57.39 | ckknight | lua> math.random(1, 2) |
| 00:57.40 | lua_bot | ckknight: 1 |
| 00:57.44 | ckknight | wtf! |
| 00:57.44 | WobWork | rofl |
| 00:58.10 | WobWork | liua> math.random(1,2) |
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| 00:58.13 | ckknight | I must test more. |
| 00:58.13 | WobWork | lua> math.random(1,2) |
| 00:58.13 | Aiiane | lua> (select(math.random(1,2), "Druid", "Shaman")) |
| 00:58.14 | lua_bot | WobWork: 1 |
| 00:58.14 | lua_bot | Aiiane: Druid |
| 00:58.14 | ckknight | lua> (select(math.random(1, 2), "Shaman", "Druid")) |
| 00:58.15 | lua_bot | ckknight: Shaman |
| 00:58.19 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:58.21 | WobWork | lua> math.random(1,2) |
| 00:58.22 | lua_bot | WobWork: 2 |
| 00:58.23 | ckknight | so it does properly set the seed |
| 00:58.38 | quiescens | that's what you think! |
| 00:58.40 | Arrowmaster | lua_bot has been bad about randomness in the past |
| 00:58.46 | WobWork | lua> (select(math.random(1,2), "Druid", "Shaman")) |
| 00:58.47 | lua_bot | WobWork: Shaman |
| 00:58.49 | Arrowmaster | it didnt used to reseed at all |
| 00:58.49 | WobWork | see? |
| 00:58.57 | Aiiane | lua> (select(math.random(1,2), "Druid", "Shaman")) |
| 00:58.57 | lua_bot | Aiiane: Druid |
| 00:58.58 | Aiiane | lua> (select(math.random(1,2), "Druid", "Shaman")) |
| 00:58.59 | lua_bot | Aiiane: Shaman |
| 00:59.04 | WobWork | It works for the rest of us |
| 00:59.14 | WobWork | it's just you, ck, they're trying to indicate something to =) |
| 00:59.54 | ckknight | I'm thinking Druid. |
| 01:00.22 | WobWork | hehe |
| 01:00.25 | Aiiane | admit it, you just want to play a sexy bearded nightelf male |
| 01:00.26 | WobWork | it's thinking you too |
| 01:00.32 | ckknight | Aiiane: nah, I play chicks |
| 01:00.38 | ckknight | it makes me feel pretty |
| 01:00.56 | WobWork | and witty and bright? |
| 01:01.08 | WobWork | Do you pity, any girl that isn't you tonight? |
| 01:01.14 | Aiiane | ... |
| 01:01.39 | ckknight | licks his finger and touches his body. A hiss sound occurs. |
| 01:01.40 | Aiiane | ckknight: did we ever decide what we were doing with the Bang addons |
| 01:01.45 | WobWork | was a Shark, back in the day |
| 01:01.59 | ckknight | Aiiane: I was gonna wait to talk to Kaelten |
| 01:02.16 | Arrowmaster | i thought ckknight emailed him |
| 01:03.04 | Funkeh` | so who spilled the coffee on the curse servers |
| 01:03.34 | Arrowmaster | somebody caused a db insert |
| 01:03.53 | Pneumatus | i just committed, did i break it? |
| 01:04.00 | Funkeh` | yes, yes you did |
| 01:04.04 | Pneumatus | good stuff |
| 01:04.11 | Repo | 10simple-unit-frames: 03Pneumatus * r89 / (4 files in 1 directory): - Improve font refreshing logic |
| 01:04.14 | Repo | - Disable 'Dead' text on ToT |
| 01:04.17 | Repo | - Add FocusTarget overlays |
| 01:04.59 | Repo | 10simple-unit-frames: 03Pneumatus 04v1.5.4-release * r90 : Tagging as v1.5.4-release |
| 01:05.10 | Funkeh` | weird |
| 01:05.18 | Funkeh` | I think the old forwarders are broken |
| 01:05.45 | Funkeh` | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/big-wigs.aspx worky http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/3299/ no worky |
| 01:06.27 | Pneumatus | the latter works for me |
| 01:06.35 | Pneumatus | redirected to the former |
| 01:06.44 | Funkeh` | cache? |
| 01:06.52 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: can i ban that fucker? he uploaded a new version of bang pvp 45 hours ago and this time his crap hes adding to ace3 are all prefixed by a shit ton of whitespace to try and hide them |
| 01:07.16 | ckknight | tomorrow, okay? |
| 01:07.22 | Arrowmaster | promiss? |
| 01:07.29 | quiescens | o.O |
| 01:07.31 | WobWork | Arrowmaster: what's this? |
| 01:07.38 | ckknight | I can't promise, but I can pretty much guarantee |
| 01:07.39 | Arrowmaster | WobWork: bang pvp |
| 01:07.45 | ckknight | just want to discuss with Kaelten first |
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| 01:09.00 | Pneumatus | wtf @ his libs |
| 01:09.14 | Pneumatus | the whole of ace2 and ace3, and god knows what else |
| 01:09.23 | Arrowmaster | he doesnt even use them |
| 01:09.41 | Pneumatus | yeh |
| 01:09.47 | Shadowed | BangPVP is funny |
| 01:09.54 | Pneumatus | he only references 2 libs, and they arent even where he references them |
| 01:09.55 | Shadowed | oh Arrowmaster, if you want a reason to ban him |
| 01:10.02 | Arrowmaster | already have a reason |
| 01:10.07 | Shadowed | his lib which is obsfucated, whispers him with his addons name/version if you mouseover or target him |
| 01:10.12 | Shadowed | another reason :p |
| 01:10.16 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 01:10.22 | ckknight | eh |
| 01:10.33 | ckknight | oh yea, I remembered what I was gonna ask Kaelten |
| 01:10.34 | Shadowed | http://shadowed.pastey.net/105426 <- the lib |
| 01:10.37 | ckknight | about banning obfuscation in general |
| 01:11.01 | Pneumatus | obsfucation loses on so many levels |
| 01:11.02 | Shadowed | obsfucation should be allowed if they can do it creatively, that doesn't take 10 seconds to break |
| 01:11.17 | pastamancer | no it shouldn't |
| 01:11.22 | Arrowmaster | was does the bejeweled addon count as then? |
| 01:11.32 | pastamancer | if you can't tell what the addon really does, that's bad |
| 01:11.38 | Shadowed | I don't even get why the Bejeweled addon is obsfucated |
| 01:11.44 | Funkeh` | http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3066/404zf9.jpg |
| 01:11.52 | Arrowmaster | i wouldnt even call it much of obsfucation |
| 01:11.55 | Shadowed | you can cheat the scores without unobsfucating it, and the graphics aren't hidden anyway |
| 01:12.09 | Shadowed | yea, but they still but some effort to make it less readable |
| 01:12.14 | Funkeh` | Pneumatus, that pic |
| 01:12.16 | Pneumatus | bejeweled isnt obsfucated really |
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| 01:12.29 | Pneumatus | :o |
| 01:13.01 | ckknight | lemme check the code |
| 01:13.06 | Shadowed | It's not obsfucation, it's "optimizing" is what he said |
| 01:13.15 | Pneumatus | you can edit bejeweled quite easily to make you win |
| 01:13.23 | Shadowed | but it's all renaming variables to a-z, removing spacing, comments, etc |
| 01:13.27 | WobWork | "Tip: Click the line numbers to toggle highliting on that line." |
| 01:13.32 | WobWork | ~fail pastey |
| 01:13.33 | purl | pastey: FAIL! |
| 01:13.55 | ckknight | eh, Bejeweled isn't obfuscated enough to care |
| 01:13.57 | WobWork | highlite is not a word =P |
| 01:14.04 | Arrowmaster | well atleast bejeweled doesnt use stupid globals like bang crap does or carbonite |
| 01:14.05 | ckknight | it's easily fixable by doing s/;/;\n/g |
| 01:14.14 | quiescens | badly named variables, spacing, and lack of comments isn't neccesarily intentional obfuscation |
| 01:14.18 | quiescens | lol |
| 01:14.25 | Pneumatus | search for math.random(1,7), replace with math.random(1,4) and you will perma-win at bejeweled :> |
| 01:14.47 | ckknight | lol |
| 01:14.50 | Shadowed | you don't need to perma win when you can just do a sendaddon call to get the high score! |
| 01:15.04 | Pneumatus | instead of making 7 different 'types' of jewels, it will only make 4 different types |
| 01:15.18 | Pneumatus | you can also bodge it to make every single gem an ubergem |
| 01:15.29 | Funkeh` | Is there anyone here using BadBoy.. but using the curse client to update it? I need you to check what it sayd the latest version is, and what version of CC you're using |
| 01:15.31 | WobWork | Pneumatus: not 1,1 ? |
| 01:15.43 | Shadowed | have to make it somewhat hard WobWork |
| 01:15.45 | Pneumatus | WobWork: if you change to 1,1 you will never complete a level |
| 01:15.50 | Pneumatus | as it will cascade forever |
| 01:15.56 | Pneumatus | and probably crash, and never finish a level |
| 01:16.00 | WobWork | don't you level up at a certain number of points? |
| 01:16.12 | Pneumatus | only once the cascade stops |
| 01:16.15 | WobWork | ah |
| 01:16.17 | WobWork | 1,2 then =) |
| 01:16.26 | Pneumatus | still too easy |
| 01:16.33 | Pneumatus | but yeh, you get the idea :P |
| 01:16.35 | WobWork | we're talking about hacking a cheat |
| 01:16.40 | WobWork | and you complain it's too easy =P |
| 01:16.44 | WobWork | pft |
| 01:17.15 | Pneumatus | you need to make it sufficiently hard that you will at some point actually end a level though :P |
| 01:17.26 | Pneumatus | if it cascades infinately you'll never get a high score to send |
| 01:18.02 | Arrowmaster | or you can just edit the saved vars |
| 01:18.23 | Antiarc | Anyone know of an addon that mass-adds people to a calendar invite, or can copy a calendar invite to another day? |
| 01:19.19 | doom0r | 3.1. The Subscriber hereby acknowledges and agrees that all intellectual property rights in the BangCraft Addon including all moral rights are owned by BangCraft. |
| 01:19.35 | doom0r | i think someone really needs to not copy/paste portions of eula's to make a failed attempt at their own |
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| 01:20.16 | WobWork | wow |
| 01:20.18 | WobWork | that's pretty fail |
| 01:20.46 | Pneumatus | that addon really needs to diaf |
| 01:20.47 | doom0r | there's no copy of the license for the libs either to differeniate |
| 01:21.04 | Pneumatus | are all his addons like that? |
| 01:21.07 | WobWork | woo, can we get the FSF to sue him? |
| 01:21.17 | quiescens | lol |
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| 01:21.55 | doom0r | some are lgpl and not bsd |
| 01:22.24 | Arrowmaster | and one is mine and all mine |
| 01:22.33 | Arrowmaster | and not released |
| 01:22.36 | Antiarc | What should I use to see rebirth/heroism timers for my raid? |
| 01:22.49 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: your debuffs? |
| 01:22.54 | Antiarc | No, like |
| 01:22.57 | Antiarc | I'm the new raid leader |
| 01:23.02 | Antiarc | I want to know what druids have a battle rez up |
| 01:23.13 | Arrowmaster | ora2 if they use it |
| 01:23.48 | quiescens | are you one of those people that says someone battle res so-and-so |
| 01:24.04 | quiescens | and causes all the druids to do it at the same time |
| 01:24.06 | vhaarr | ora2 doesn't show heroism, but BigWigs_CommonAuras does |
| 01:24.16 | Antiarc | That's what I -don't- want to have happen |
| 01:24.20 | Antiarc | I want to say "Druid X, rez Y" |
| 01:24.40 | vhaarr | ye I just use ora2+bw_commonauras then I know who has CD on bres and bloodlust all the time |
| 01:24.45 | Zhinjio | our guild needs a new raid leader |
| 01:24.46 | quiescens | oh so they're just druid x to you now |
| 01:24.59 | Arrowmaster | i just known that if you have 2 or more shamans then you have a cooldown up |
| 01:25.16 | Arrowmaster | at all times |
| 01:26.11 | vhaarr | it lasts 30sec or so, and the CD is 10 minutes? |
| 01:26.22 | vhaarr | and the debuff is 5min? |
| 01:26.28 | vhaarr | so no, that's not true |
| 01:26.56 | Shadowed | 45s vhar |
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| 01:27.02 | quiescens | 40! |
| 01:28.19 | doom0r | exactly, everytime the debuff is done, you have a CD available |
| 01:28.28 | vhaarr | people die, shamans pop it randomly |
| 01:28.46 | vhaarr | during trash, I mean |
| 01:28.46 | doom0r | i don't think fail was part of the generalization ;x |
| 01:28.59 | vhaarr | so then when we reach a boss I need to know who hasn't used it |
| 01:29.04 | vhaarr | wtf are we discussing this for anyway |
| 01:29.06 | vhaarr | leaves |
| 01:29.11 | Arrowmaster | if you have shamans poping it randomly when the rest of the raid still has the debuff you need to find new shamans |
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| 01:32.05 | doom0r | 1011 queue |
| 01:32.48 | Xinhuan | what server |
| 01:33.13 | doom0r | manno |
| 01:35.28 | Sliker_Hawk | ouf: pet & player frames switching, anyone? |
| 01:39.37 | Arrowmaster | what about it? |
| 01:39.38 | pastamancer | not possible if you're talking about vehicles |
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| 01:44.01 | doom0r | o god, my nose is still burning from cat fart |
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| 01:45.10 | Sliker_Hawk | While that'd be nice and I hadn't thought about it before, I've had the pet & player frames switch twice today when I got in a vehicle and not switch back (I haven't tried to make them switch ever) |
| 01:45.35 | Sliker_Hawk | And if my demon dies when it's like that I don't have a player frame at all |
| 01:46.22 | Sliker_Hawk | Also about ouf, my tagged strings stopped working recently |
| 01:46.29 | Sliker_Hawk | They just show the tag instead |
| 01:48.05 | Sliker_Hawk | prepend to that: arrowmaster, pastamancer. |
| 01:48.30 | dodga | so, arenaX is no valid unit name for cowtip apparently :D |
| 01:48.40 | Arrowmaster | dodga: update? |
| 01:48.43 | pastamancer | I don't use ouf so I have no idea |
| 01:49.16 | Arrowmaster | it shouldnt be possible for ouf to swap the player and pet frames when entering a vehicle unless it fucks with the original playerframe somehow but i doubt that |
| 01:50.53 | dodga | Arrowmaster: When was it fixed? I'm running r165 of libdogtag-unit and the changelog on wowace says nothing about that being fixed |
| 01:51.04 | dodga | I'll update anyway :D |
| 01:51.50 | Arrowmaster | why is resizeable not in firefox's spellcheck dictionary |
| 01:52.10 | Sliker_Hawk | Because it doesn't have an e in it |
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| 01:52.13 | Shefki | Don't think Dogtag has support for arena unit ids yet. |
| 01:52.23 | Arrowmaster | well resizable isnt either |
| 01:52.27 | Sliker_Hawk | oh. bah. |
| 01:52.51 | Shefki | Because I haven't done any arena and neither has ck. |
| 01:53.10 | dodga | and there's no ticket for that yet? |
| 01:53.22 | dodga | funny :D |
| 01:53.25 | dodga | Should I open one? |
| 01:53.35 | Arrowmaster | because nobody uses cowtip anymore |
| 01:53.36 | Shefki | Sure. |
| 01:53.39 | dodga | Arrowmaster: wut! |
| 01:53.51 | dodga | Shefki: on libdogtag-unit? |
| 01:53.55 | dodga | or on libdogtag |
| 01:53.58 | Shefki | unit |
| 01:54.16 | doom0r | because resizable isn't a proper dictionary word |
| 01:55.27 | Sliker_Hawk | .. re-sizable? |
| 01:55.48 | doom0r | it's one of those things just not in the dictionary yet |
| 01:56.02 | doom0r | which is fail tbh, considering some of the recently added words in teh past few years |
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| 01:57.22 | doom0r | oxford american dictionary word of teh year was freakin: hypermiling |
| 01:57.23 | doom0r | ffs |
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| 01:58.43 | Sliker_Hawk | Or 'meh'. |
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| 01:59.07 | sylvanaar | whats a good random mount mod |
| 01:59.28 | Arrowmaster | anything not written by lordfarlander? |
| 01:59.49 | doom0r | netroots was added in merriam-webster last year, lol |
| 02:00.05 | sylvanaar | so much hate for the farlander |
| 02:00.11 | doom0r | Select |
| 02:00.18 | doom0r | right click and hit a random one :P |
| 02:03.35 | dodga | I use LiveStock |
| 02:03.44 | dodga | Like it so far |
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| 02:09.24 | Sliker_Hawk | oh, ouf changed the way tags are implemented.. I need to keep up with that |
| 02:10.00 | Sliker_Hawk | haste* |
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| 02:10.45 | haste | yes I did : |
| 02:14.32 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r127 / (3 files in 1 directory): - syncing |
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| 02:21.27 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r128 : - syncing |
| 02:22.31 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r129 / (2 files in 2 directories): fixing case |
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| 02:25.20 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: ping |
| 02:26.31 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r130 : - syncing |
| 02:29.54 | doom0r | only 115 to go |
| 02:30.55 | taleden | seriously. since wrath was clearly such a hit that all the servers are full now, they could at least maybe funnel some of that revenue into hardware |
| 02:31.27 | Skellum | question...why are they reducing the mat cost on most of these enchants when people will still not get them? |
| 02:31.33 | Skellum | Black Magic. |
| 02:31.34 | Skellum | Its bad. |
| 02:31.37 | Skellum | Very bad. |
| 02:31.43 | Skellum | Really really really bad |
| 02:31.53 | doom0r | taleden: won't be so bad next week |
| 02:32.20 | doom0r | and i think the revenue is going into fixing the major issues that persist regardless of hw |
| 02:39.27 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r131 : - externals fixed now |
| 02:50.31 | ckknight | taleden: I think that they might be worried that if they open too many new servers that people would disperse and the realms would seem empty |
| 02:50.53 | taleden | i don't mean new servers, i mean upgrading the existing servers to handle the load they're getting |
| 02:50.57 | taleden | instead of queueing everyone 20min to get in |
| 02:51.05 | ckknight | ah |
| 02:51.15 | ckknight | I want a new server, cause I want to roll a new char |
| 02:51.17 | ckknight | :P |
| 02:51.19 | ckknight | hehe |
| 02:51.38 | Skellum | Dalaran, Wintergrasp specifically |
| 02:52.03 | Skellum | I wonder if they phased the two areas if they could improve the lag |
| 02:52.23 | Skellum | Wintergrasp can paralize all of northrend when it gets to the end |
| 02:53.20 | Aiiane | that's the problem with creating timed battles in an open zone :P |
| 02:53.33 | Skellum | Mmmhmm |
| 02:53.38 | Skellum | But I love the zone |
| 02:54.06 | Skellum | they need to expand on the seige craft, but really the only reason we lose at times is because you cannot kill the seige weapons once lag reaches critical |
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| 02:58.21 | Sliker_Hawk | I was in 'the one' (are they all on the same timer?) just now and the server seemed alright, there were 49+ alliance and easily that much horde |
| 02:58.30 | Sliker_Hawk | And my server gets queues and everything so.. |
| 03:00.00 | Skellum | 80 in 80, does not for a good server make |
| 03:00.11 | Skellum | I mean, its fun as hell...but it really makes an unstable server |
| 03:00.23 | Skellum | My server, Dalaran, has a 50 min queue atm |
| 03:00.34 | Sliker_Hawk | Oh. right. |
| 03:00.45 | Sliker_Hawk | I've only seen mine up to 20 or something |
| 03:00.49 | Skellum | which makes no sense as were the only good guild horde side and alliance has maybe 2 good guilds |
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| 03:02.49 | Aiiane | 2 words: winter break |
| 03:06.34 | Skellum | christmas gifts, yea |
| 03:09.31 | doom0r | taleden: no more people are needed in dalaran, no need to up the online count anymore |
| 03:12.27 | doom0r | bagnon and combuctor need to have a baby, so does baggins and tbag |
| 03:17.16 | sztanpet | what does tbag not do, that baggins does |
| 03:18.59 | doom0r | section headers, which would go hand and hand with a little more isolation of them, visually |
| 03:19.43 | doom0r | at least not that i'm aware of |
| 03:30.08 | Repo | 10huntard: 03Xocide 07master * v0.3-6-gcc75277 Huntard.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 03:30.10 | Repo | cc75277: Completed the Arcane Shot cooldown notification. |
| 03:30.12 | Repo | f28a0d3: Started working on Arcane Shot cooldown notification. |
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| 03:38.11 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar 04RC11 * r185 : Tagging as RC11 |
| 03:39.15 | sylvanaar | last rc, im done |
| 03:43.17 | haste | that's what you think! |
| 03:43.26 | sylvanaar | ha |
| 03:43.34 | sylvanaar | im worn out |
| 03:43.43 | Skellum | Ooo...I like prat |
| 03:43.52 | Xinhuan | no, its a tarp! |
| 03:43.53 | Skellum | It allows me to copypasta embarassing things from people |
| 03:43.59 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 03:44.20 | Xinhuan | see what i did there ;p |
| 03:44.42 | sylvanaar | if it has no show stoppers, im releasing it this week |
| 03:44.46 | Skellum | Oh come on, you've never seen spectacularly embarassing tells :D? |
| 03:44.50 | sylvanaar | ah, the blis |
| 03:44.52 | sylvanaar | bliss |
| 03:45.09 | Skellum | I remember some back in EQ, in like those 8-10 hour groups grinding levels |
| 03:45.22 | sylvanaar | oh yeah |
| 03:45.24 | Skellum | The "Female" High elf priestess letting out lines of absolutely filthy smut :D |
| 03:45.31 | sylvanaar | i have need embarasing tells |
| 03:45.43 | sylvanaar | night guys |
| 03:47.47 | NeoTron | hrm the LibPeriodicTable set for Inscription inks seems completely invalid |
| 03:48.20 | NeoTron | like it has entries that don't even exist |
| 03:48.35 | Xinhuan | since when has that library been even ever 90% accurate |
| 03:48.47 | onaforeignshore | I did use Prat for a long time, but I've replaced it with chatter now |
| 03:49.48 | Matrix110 | great I didnt sleep 1 min and went to bed 7hours ago and now I have to go to work in a bit -.- |
| 03:50.56 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: it's usually more accurate than having item id's that don't even exist |
| 03:50.59 | Repo | 10huntard: 03Xocide 07master * v0.3-9-g3f70b0f Huntard.lua: [+3 commits] |
| 03:51.01 | Repo | 3f70b0f: Added Concussive Shot cooldown. |
| 03:51.03 | Repo | 2f115d8: Multi-Shot cooldown complete. |
| 03:51.06 | Repo | 2f26067: Started on Multi-Shot cooldown. |
| 03:51.23 | Arrowmaster | well most of it is datamined from wowhead isnt it? |
| 03:51.51 | Arrowmaster | and wowhead hasnt been very accurate with wrath yet due to all the beta data |
| 03:51.55 | Repo | 10buff-enough: 03Nickodemus_wow * r73 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 03:51.57 | Repo | - changed default priest priority for paladin blessings to prefer kings first |
| 03:52.00 | Repo | - fixed spell id for flask of chromatic wonder |
| 03:52.29 | NeoTron | well ... inks are correct on wowhead? I don't know how the datamining works |
| 03:52.56 | doom0r | heh, 5 shamans in howling fjord atm with 1 char variance, gg powerleveling |
| 03:53.27 | Repo | 10debuff-enough: 03Nickodemus_wow * r15 Debuffs.lua: - switched Icy Touch -> Frost Fever |
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| 03:54.39 | Repo | 10huntard: 03Xocide 04v0.4 * 893c76a /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.4 |
| 03:55.31 | WobWork | doom0r: I have a guildie shaman named "Shamor" |
| 03:55.50 | WobWork | however every time I see the name, I get Michael Jackson's "Black or White" stuck in my head |
| 03:55.55 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: it'd be really nice if bt4 would auto-target my pet with the 'self' modifier key if I'm mounted on a dragon :) |
| 03:55.58 | Jaxon | WHAT |
| 03:56.00 | Jaxon | Oh |
| 03:56.09 | Jaxon | Fuck, I gotta remove Jackson from my hilight list |
| 03:56.13 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: at least for the possess bar |
| 03:56.16 | WobWork | hehe |
| 03:56.37 | WobWork | Axion Jaxon |
| 03:56.56 | doom0r | i wish i had 5 shamans |
| 03:57.10 | WobWork | twentytotems.com? |
| 03:57.30 | doom0r | ya, exactly, i could like, drop some healing totems, and then, FROST SHOCK! |
| 03:57.40 | doom0r | but 5 times |
| 04:00.44 | doom0r | i remember all the idiots that thought lawbringer really had a decreased HS time when that video came out |
| 04:02.51 | onaforeignshore | aaaargh! how do I set up the repository... I'm getting a headache lol |
| 04:03.48 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer 07unitguid * r1104 GridStatusReadyCheck.lua: |
| 04:03.50 | Repo | Don't show a border when the status is assigned to the icon. |
| 04:04.21 | Repo | 10libeffects-1-0: 03Xocide 04beta1 * r4 : Tagging as beta1 |
| 04:06.18 | onaforeignshore | I need "TortoiseHG and WowAce for idiots" :p |
| 04:06.58 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: figure it out and submit an article |
| 04:07.07 | Arrowmaster | yeah not many people use HG |
| 04:07.08 | onaforeignshore | lol |
| 04:07.18 | Arrowmaster | its the least used of the 3 types |
| 04:08.03 | ckknight | svn = easy |
| 04:08.04 | ckknight | git = cool |
| 04:08.12 | ckknight | hg = somewhere in-between, meaning hard and uncool |
| 04:08.20 | ckknight | face! |
| 04:08.53 | onaforeignshore | but HG has explorer integration, making it easy to use once set up |
| 04:09.14 | Arrowmaster | except explorer intergration is evil |
| 04:09.24 | ckknight | I wouldn't say evil |
| 04:09.27 | ckknight | just shitty in general |
| 04:09.46 | onaforeignshore | git runs on top of a linux compatibility layer |
| 04:09.52 | Arrowmaster | and the exact reason i will never install Tortoise anything |
| 04:09.56 | Arrowmaster | no it doesnt |
| 04:10.14 | onaforeignshore | so there's a native windows GIT? |
| 04:10.20 | Arrowmaster | msysgit |
| 04:10.23 | WobWork | I prefer hg |
| 04:10.31 | Shefki | I find git to be the CVS of distributed version control. |
| 04:10.35 | onaforeignshore | msys is a compatibility layer |
| 04:10.38 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 04:10.40 | ckknight | Shefki: how so? |
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| 04:10.52 | Shefki | ckknight: I find the UI design to be horribly cryptic. |
| 04:11.04 | Arrowmaster | people use UIs? |
| 04:11.06 | Shefki | Things I think should be common operations require more effort than I expect them to be. |
| 04:11.11 | Shefki | a command line is a UI. |
| 04:11.25 | onaforeignshore | Arrowmaster: from the mingw.org website - MSYS: A Minimal SYStem providing a POSIX compatible Bourne shell environment, with a small collection of UNIX command line tools. Primarily developed as a means to execute the configure scripts and Makefiles used to build Open Source software, but also useful as a general purpose command line interface to replace Windows cmd.exe. |
| 04:11.36 | onaforeignshore | as I said, compatibility layer |
| 04:12.05 | Arrowmaster | its not a compatiblity layer, the executables in msysgit are native windows executables |
| 04:12.54 | Arrowmaster | the only place that even says compatible is when its talking about POSIX compatible |
| 04:12.57 | Shefki | And by CVS I mean by cryptic UI, I suspect it doesn't have the horribly inconsistent and trashy storage issues that CVS does. |
| 04:12.58 | onaforeignshore | ok then it's an emulation layer |
| 04:13.06 | Arrowmaster | .... |
| 04:13.11 | Arrowmaster | no its not, you are an idiot |
| 04:13.14 | ckknight | that's even further away from the truth |
| 04:13.15 | Arrowmaster | gtfo |
| 04:13.20 | ckknight | (or tits) |
| 04:13.27 | onaforeignshore | lol |
| 04:13.33 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: I'm allowed to have an opinion that differs from you. So go shove your arrow up your ass. |
| 04:13.48 | Mikk | Shadowed: WTB AddonLoader directives in ABS |
| 04:13.49 | Arrowmaster | Shefki: wasnt yelling at you |
| 04:13.50 | ckknight | Shefki: I think he was referring to onaforeignshore |
| 04:14.03 | Shadowed | do I h ave to do any work for that |
| 04:14.16 | Mikk | add a line to the toc |
| 04:14.26 | Shadowed | but that requires work :( |
| 04:15.04 | Mikk | ## X-LoadOn-Slash: /actionbarsaver, /abs |
| 04:15.06 | Mikk | That's it |
| 04:15.14 | Shadowed | kk I'll add it |
| 04:15.23 | onaforeignshore | I stand corrected... Cygwin is a compatibility layer, Msys isn't |
| 04:15.32 | ckknight | that's right |
| 04:15.45 | Shadowed | Don't I have to add some sort of LoD flag if AddonLoader is present? |
| 04:15.49 | Mikk | er oops |
| 04:15.55 | Mikk | ## LoadManagers: AddonLoader |
| 04:15.57 | Mikk | coughs |
| 04:16.09 | Mikk | two lines! i'm sorry! |
| 04:16.31 | Shadowed | kk done, it'll go out with whenever the next push it |
| 04:16.44 | Arrowmaster | well the addon has to actually work properly when loaded LoD |
| 04:17.12 | Shefki | As far as hg goes I haven't tried using it enough to have an opinion. The UI seems ok the little I've messed with it. |
| 04:17.27 | Shadowed | it uses AceAddon-3.0, so if it doesn't work I'll blame them |
| 04:17.27 | Shefki | But I find it weird that they're writing something like that in Python. |
| 04:18.03 | Arrowmaster | which UI did you look at? TortoiseHG? |
| 04:18.15 | Shefki | command line. I don't use GUIs for stuff like that. |
| 04:18.46 | Arrowmaster | i have the commandline installed, dont think ive even used it yet though |
| 04:18.47 | Shefki | I think part of my issue with git is that they split everything into a bazillion different programs. |
| 04:19.01 | ckknight | you still access it through git command |
| 04:19.01 | Arrowmaster | not anymore |
| 04:19.03 | ckknight | what's the difference? |
| 04:19.11 | ckknight | yea, they changed that in 1.6 or so |
| 04:19.29 | onaforeignshore | Arrowmaster: yes, TortoiseHG |
| 04:19.46 | Arrowmaster | well they are still different executables, but the default install only lets you use git command and not git-command anymore |
| 04:20.17 | Arrowmaster | they are working on a libgit2 or something |
| 04:20.24 | ckknight | libgit'll be nice |
| 04:20.35 | ckknight | that'll cause most of the windows issues to go away as well |
| 04:20.40 | ckknight | among other things |
| 04:20.56 | Arrowmaster | well somebody will still have to create a windows client |
| 04:21.26 | Arrowmaster | but being a library will deffently make it easier to use from other programs |
| 04:21.54 | ckknight | yea |
| 04:22.34 | sztanpet | im bored, anything to do around here? help with something? |
| 04:23.38 | sztanpet | pron it is then |
| 04:23.50 | onaforeignshore | msysgit is command line based, isn't it? |
| 04:25.03 | ckknight | yes |
| 04:25.18 | ckknight | I think... |
| 04:25.20 | ckknight | dunno |
| 04:25.23 | onaforeignshore | ok system restart first then I'll be back |
| 04:25.32 | Arrowmaster | it has a gui too |
| 04:25.51 | onaforeignshore | Arrowmaster: I just found it thanks |
| 04:25.57 | onaforeignshore | bbs |
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| 04:27.01 | Shefki | ckknight: Yeah I realize they merged everything together with a wrapper or however they did it. |
| 04:27.27 | ckknight | yea |
| 04:27.34 | Arrowmaster | its been like that for a while though |
| 04:27.40 | ckknight | so I don't see how it's all that different functionally from everything being under the same roof |
| 04:28.01 | Shefki | Whole thing just feels clunky to me. *shrug* |
| 04:28.18 | Shefki | But then I'm not surprised it's kinda thrown together rather than designed. |
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| 04:32.11 | ckknight | in other news, Shefki, in PB4, I'm letting you have both rows _and_ columns for groups |
| 04:32.12 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 04:32.17 | ckknight | 2x2 party frames, for example |
| 04:33.04 | Shefki | Nice. |
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| 04:44.02 | Repo | 10charge-meter: 03Starinnia * r18 ChargeMeter.lua: fix event handler for boss yell /sigh |
| 04:46.46 | Repo | 10debuff-enough: 03Nickodemus_wow 041.0.1 * r16 : Tagging as 1.0.1 |
| 04:47.06 | Repo | 10buff-enough: 03Nickodemus_wow 041.1.7 * r74 : Tagging as 1.1.7 |
| 04:49.09 | Xinhuan | why does it matter if git is native or not to windows, or whether its thru a compat layer |
| 04:49.34 | onaforeignshore | it doesn't I suppose, not these days anyway |
| 04:49.58 | Zao | Performance mostly, I believe. |
| 04:50.11 | Xinhuan | at the end of the day, its still an exe you run for a few seconds, and exit when you're done |
| 04:51.43 | Xinhuan | performance argument is a bit stupid when talking about something that runs just a few seconds, usually less |
| 04:52.06 | Xinhuan | unless its of magnitudes difference |
| 04:52.22 | onaforeignshore | for me the point at the moment I think is to find the one that's the easiest to use |
| 04:53.02 | Xinhuan | the easiest one to use is usually the one with the better GUI - which is usually the ones that have been around longer |
| 04:54.06 | onaforeignshore | coLinux would be an option if I wasn't on x64 |
| 04:55.40 | Zao | Xinhuan: I believe it starts getting painful when doing larger operations, but as I'm happy with svn, I haven't investigated. |
| 04:56.06 | Xinhuan | hey we're talking about wow addons |
| 04:56.18 | Xinhuan | name me the largest addon yuo've ever seen |
| 04:56.19 | Zao | Indeed. |
| 04:56.20 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r109 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fixed up the locale a bit. |
| 04:56.30 | Xinhuan | that even approaches any possible performance issue |
| 04:56.39 | Codayus | I suppose if you were routinely doing complex operations, and they were cpu bound, and a non-native implementation was significantly less efficient, then...um... ...um... |
| 04:57.03 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 713bbee / (4 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 04:57.05 | Repo | 713bbee: Allow spacing to be set per group. Add units per column/row, allowing you to have 2x2 party frames and such. Allow you to specify which way groups grow. |
| 04:57.08 | Repo | b149562: introduce the concept of super-classifications. party, partypet, partytarget, partypettarget would all have the super-classification of "party", since certain options such as sort method and direction would be the same. |
| 04:57.16 | Xinhuan | because i do 12529 merge operations everyday right? |
| 04:57.55 | Codayus | Pft, I do 12530! Daily! |
| 04:58.05 | ckknight | the performance difference for checking logs for git vs. svn or hg vs. svn is enormous |
| 04:58.09 | ckknight | because it doesn't have to ping the server |
| 04:58.24 | Xinhuan | yes and that would be a good reason to use git |
| 04:58.36 | Xinhuan | but they were arguing about git on windows vs hg on windows |
| 04:58.41 | Xinhuan | because of nativness |
| 04:58.43 | Xinhuan | come on |
| 04:58.50 | Xinhuan | /palmface |
| 04:58.55 | ckknight | oh |
| 04:58.57 | ckknight | that's bullshit |
| 04:59.00 | ckknight | for the most part |
| 04:59.29 | ckknight | unless you're dealing with multi-gig repos, I doubt you'll notice a difference |
| 05:00.14 | ckknight | as far as performance is concerned, using either shouldn't matter |
| 05:00.21 | ckknight | though their UIs are the big difference |
| 05:00.26 | ckknight | which is what they should be competing on |
| 05:00.28 | ckknight | for the most part |
| 05:01.42 | Torhal | ckknight: svn.wowace.com actively (ACTIVELY!) refused a connection. |
| 05:01.53 | Torhal | Not passively, damn it. |
| 05:01.58 | ckknight | you probably should've sent it flowers on its birthday. |
| 05:02.08 | Torhal | facepalms. |
| 05:02.50 | Xinhuan | ck, nev has a idea that the long wowace operations is causing syncing to curse to fail by timeout - true/false? |
| 05:03.14 | Xinhuan | most tags since 5-6 days ago are failing to sync |
| 05:03.31 | ckknight | Xinhuan: even still, if it's not requesting the old feeds after a failed sync, there's a serious issue |
| 05:03.33 | Repo | 10libqtip-1-0: 03Torhal * r51 LibQTip-1.0/LibQTip-1.0.lua: |
| 05:03.36 | Repo | Removed bgFrame, as InitializeTooltip() now "inherits" the backdrop/border and initial scale from GameTooltip. |
| 05:03.48 | ckknight | Xinhuan: so it is inherently Curse's fault for not syncing properly |
| 05:04.02 | ckknight | but yea, the catalyst is our DB issues |
| 05:04.09 | ckknight | which Kaelten and I will be working on tomorrow |
| 05:04.19 | ckknight | note: wowace will have some downtime tomorrow :-P |
| 05:04.25 | Kaelten | yep |
| 05:04.28 | Kaelten | already have a plan in place |
| 05:04.31 | ckknight | only it'll be in one big chunk rather than in 3-minute chunks like now |
| 05:04.34 | Xinhuan | nev edited the ace3 tag and it synced after the edit |
| 05:04.34 | ckknight | :P |
| 05:04.36 | Repo | 10libqtip-1-0: 03Torhal 04v1.0.1-beta3 * r52 : Tagging as v1.0.1-beta3 |
| 05:04.36 | Xinhuan | not sure if its related |
| 05:04.39 | Kaelten | ckknight: what time you making it to the office? |
| 05:04.44 | ckknight | Kaelten: probably 9 |
| 05:04.47 | ckknight | or 9:15 |
| 05:04.55 | ckknight | why? |
| 05:04.59 | Kaelten | k, I'm going to shoot to be in by the same, my schedule is fucked up |
| 05:05.01 | ckknight | should I come earlier? |
| 05:05.03 | ckknight | okay |
| 05:05.13 | ckknight | fun fact: I worked on Friday |
| 05:05.14 | Xinhuan | he wants your babies! |
| 05:05.20 | ckknight | nobody told me it was a free holidy |
| 05:05.22 | quiescens | o.O |
| 05:05.22 | ckknight | holiday* |
| 05:05.28 | ckknight | :P |
| 05:05.35 | Kaelten | na, but if I don't see you by 9:20 I'll be thinking you're alarm died again ;) |
| 05:05.48 | doom0r | would that have changed anything ckk, honestly? |
| 05:06.00 | Torhal | Kaelten: His alarm never died - the DB lockups made it shit itself. |
| 05:06.19 | Kaelten | lol |
| 05:06.38 | Kaelten | ya man I need more holidays! I'm actually getting excited for going back to work |
| 05:06.42 | ckknight | Kaelten: it's possible |
| 05:06.51 | Kaelten | on the side note Kavanaugh is a pain in the ass |
| 05:06.53 | ckknight | doom0r: what do you mean? |
| 05:06.58 | ckknight | Kaelten: lol |
| 05:06.59 | Xinhuan | where did you go for a holiday? |
| 05:07.04 | ckknight | Kaelten: you're all the way back there? |
| 05:07.10 | ckknight | Kaelten: what season is he? |
| 05:07.15 | Kaelten | ckknight: 5 |
| 05:07.16 | doom0r | you are always "working" |
| 05:07.33 | ckknight | doom0r: well, once I realized I had the day off, I left at 3 |
| 05:07.36 | Kaelten | Xinhuan; spent a few days in asheville, NC |
| 05:07.46 | ckknight | doom0r: but I did some work on the localization app |
| 05:07.52 | ckknight | granted, once I got home I did some more work |
| 05:07.57 | ckknight | but also some PB4 stuff |
| 05:08.07 | Kaelten | ckknight: talking about friday? |
| 05:08.11 | Xinhuan | when are you launching the localization app "officially"? |
| 05:08.11 | ckknight | yea |
| 05:08.14 | Kaelten | lol |
| 05:08.19 | Kaelten | didn't read the email did you |
| 05:08.26 | Kaelten | Xinhuan: hopefully this week |
| 05:08.27 | ckknight | I forgot about that part |
| 05:08.36 | ckknight | Xinhuan: I was told that I couldn't put a link up until Kaelten "approved" it |
| 05:08.43 | ckknight | Kaelten: have you seen it yet? |
| 05:08.59 | Kaelten | na I'll look at it tommorrow while I'm spinning wheels watching progress meters |
| 05:08.59 | quiescens | adds a few layers of red tape |
| 05:09.05 | ckknight | k |
| 05:09.14 | ckknight | lol, quiescens |
| 05:09.23 | Kaelten | :P |
| 05:09.32 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r110 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed a bug. |
| 05:09.43 | ckknight | in any event, you can start using it to upload phrases and the like, but there won't be any links to it until it "officially" launches, and we won't be wiping the DB for it or anything like that |
| 05:09.49 | ckknight | we'd better not be, at leaset |
| 05:09.50 | ckknight | least* |
| 05:09.54 | ckknight | my PitBull4 stuff is in there |
| 05:10.06 | Kaelten | don't see any reason to |
| 05:10.09 | Kaelten | wipe it that is |
| 05:10.34 | ckknight | just gotta make sure the servers don't die |
| 05:10.37 | Xinhuan | is the reverting/banning system for naughty localizations in yet? |
| 05:10.39 | ckknight | nobody at ITX spills coffee |
| 05:10.56 | Kaelten | heh, can't believe that damn partition is 70% fragmented |
| 05:11.07 | ckknight | Xinhuan: no, but the framework is in place for it, since each translation has a user attached and it'd be easy to delete all from a specific user |
| 05:11.15 | ckknight | Kaelten: *thumbs up* |
| 05:12.03 | Xinhuan | have you asked around for any translator's thoughts on the system yet? |
| 05:12.06 | ckknight | Xinhuan: to be honest, I'm not too worried about it for right now, but if it becomes an issue, it'll be easy to do both manually and to get a system up to ban people |
| 05:12.09 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yes, I have |
| 05:12.21 | ckknight | digmouse liked it, Stanzilla liked it (once I did some changes) |
| 05:13.36 | Xinhuan | author rewards and localizers - any plan to reward them somehow? |
| 05:14.09 | Xinhuan | can be a way to encourage using the localization app |
| 05:14.11 | ckknight | Xinhuan: that's up to the author. |
| 05:14.24 | Kaelten | Xinhuan: we can work up a system to help track their work for the authors though |
| 05:14.26 | Kaelten | that'd be easy |
| 05:14.38 | Xinhuan | yeah, like seeing how many translations someone made, etc |
| 05:14.39 | ckknight | Kaelten: already in place, really |
| 05:14.49 | Kaelten | ya probably just needs an output |
| 05:14.55 | ckknight | if you look at the list of translations, you see who translated |
| 05:15.18 | ckknight | in any event, this is all pretty moot |
| 05:15.27 | ckknight | so Kaelten, when will the Curse Client be released? |
| 05:15.31 | ckknight | :P |
| 05:15.44 | Kaelten | we're shooting for late this month |
| 05:15.56 | Kaelten | hope to have alpha7 out next few days |
| 05:16.10 | Camci | who needs a client when you can manually update... 150 addons :/ |
| 05:16.13 | ckknight | but I want an XBox now :-( |
| 05:16.32 | Arrowmaster | i want a new one now too |
| 05:16.47 | onaforeignshore | In http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/repository-faq/ if you click on the link http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/pages/pkgmeta-file/ you get a 403 error |
| 05:16.50 | Xinhuan | hah |
| 05:16.51 | Kaelten | heh |
| 05:17.15 | Xinhuan | wrong link then |
| 05:17.17 | Xinhuan | easy to fix |
| 05:17.39 | onaforeignshore | http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/pkgmeta-file/ is the correct link I suspect |
| 05:17.51 | Xinhuan | it is |
| 05:17.57 | Xinhuan | does every other link work? |
| 05:18.03 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: you might be able to get one after a few months from riding my coattails |
| 05:18.34 | onaforeignshore | How do I get the packager to make a release or beta - http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/repositories/mainline/create-tag/ |
| 05:18.45 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: by making tags. |
| 05:19.01 | onaforeignshore | ckk: 403 link |
| 05:19.01 | Xinhuan | hmm why does that link to cart3's tagging page |
| 05:19.03 | ckknight | oh, the distinction between? http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/repository-faq/#w_how-does-the-packager-know-whether-a-tag-is-a-release |
| 05:19.14 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: go to your own project. |
| 05:19.22 | ckknight | Xinhuan: *shrug* example probably. |
| 05:19.33 | onaforeignshore | I was answering Xinhuan's question :p |
| 05:19.47 | ckknight | oh |
| 05:20.04 | Repo | 10libqtipclick-1-0: 03Torhal * r18 LibQTipClick-1.0/LibQTip-1.0.lua: Updated embedded LibQTip. |
| 05:20.07 | Xinhuan | k lets make some edits |
| 05:20.17 | onaforeignshore | rest of the links work |
| 05:20.17 | ckknight | no u |
| 05:20.31 | Kaelten | kvanaugh just arested lem |
| 05:20.46 | Repo | 10libqtipclick-1-0: 03Torhal 04v1.0.0-beta3 * r19 : Tagging as v1.0.0-beta3 |
| 05:22.04 | Kaelten | ckknight: he is so out of fucking control |
| 05:22.10 | doom0r | Xinhuan: is there any access to the search in BankItems from the GUI? |
| 05:22.19 | Xinhuan | err no |
| 05:22.25 | Xinhuan | bring it up with /bis |
| 05:22.29 | ckknight | Kaelten: ah, in the magic box, not real life |
| 05:22.41 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/repository-faq/ by Xinhuan |
| 05:22.49 | Kaelten | ya but still, he's fucking crazy |
| 05:23.01 | ckknight | yea, it gets really intense |
| 05:23.10 | ckknight | for the rest of the 2 seasons or so |
| 05:23.16 | ckknight | :P |
| 05:24.03 | Torhal | Kaelten: What show is this? |
| 05:24.10 | Kaelten | the shield |
| 05:24.13 | ckknight | The Shield |
| 05:24.13 | Torhal | Ah |
| 05:24.25 | ckknight | it's a sweet show |
| 05:24.28 | ckknight | I've seen it all |
| 05:25.04 | Kaelten | he really is just getting way to personally involved in this shit |
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| 05:43.50 | onaforeignshore | will anyone be so kind as to share with me their .pkgmeta file for an Ace3 addon if you don't mind? |
| 05:45.58 | onaforeignshore | or else teach me to find the repository url for a library on wowace.com |
| 05:45.59 | Xinhuan | just svn checkout or git clone an existing repo on wowace |
| 05:46.08 | Xinhuan | navigate to the project page |
| 05:46.18 | Xinhuan | on the navbar there is "repository" link |
| 05:46.33 | Xinhuan | you use the public URL listed then |
| 05:46.36 | onaforeignshore | thanks |
| 05:46.57 | onaforeignshore | feels like an idiot now |
| 05:48.36 | doom0r | needs to strip BankItems to just GBankItems |
| 05:48.39 | doom0r | ;x |
| 05:49.37 | doom0r | i really don't need a fourth way to display my normal bank, heh |
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| 05:53.58 | quiescens | 3 is enough for you? |
| 05:54.32 | doom0r | well, it's debatable, nothing i have has prebuilt filters yet |
| 05:54.35 | doom0r | ;x |
| 05:54.52 | doom0r | rather, switching to only display those |
| 05:57.44 | doom0r | no ocd/oid here, nope |
| 05:57.48 | doom0r | goes to wash his hands |
| 06:02.37 | Primer | seems curse.com is not syncing with wowace.com |
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| 06:02.51 | Primer | I updated my files days ago, and curse.com still has the old crap |
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| 06:05.01 | ckknight | known bug, Primer |
| 06:05.09 | ckknight | we'll fix it tomorrow |
| 06:05.21 | rndmntngnt | hello all, just wondering is it possible to do a mod/macro that will auto demote guild members that have been inactive, say > 2months? |
| 06:05.36 | ckknight | yes, it's possible |
| 06:06.18 | rndmntngnt | you know of anyone who is currently developing something like this atm? |
| 06:06.30 | Arrowmaster | nobody afaik |
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| 06:07.40 | rndmntngnt | no worries thanks, might start working on this, my poor guild master last night took about an hour to manual demote people lol |
| 06:07.51 | ckknight | blah |
| 06:07.55 | ckknight | yea, I would've scripted it |
| 06:07.56 | onaforeignshore | rndmntngnt: what if they are officers or have valid reasons? or just demote everyone regardless? |
| 06:08.07 | Primer | ckknight: ok |
| 06:08.13 | Primer | thanks for the update |
| 06:08.45 | Repo | 10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme * r15 / (2 files in 1 directory): EggTimer: |
| 06:08.45 | Repo | - embedded LibQTip-1.0-beta3 |
| 06:08.45 | Repo | - CowTip pretties now standard in QTip (no additional work required) <3 beta3! |
| 06:08.45 | onaforeignshore | sounds like something I can add to my addon :) |
| 06:09.10 | rndmntngnt | nah my gm is not like that, we are pretty tight knit guild, well organised etc |
| 06:09.47 | rndmntngnt | its say for example, people who are suppose to be "core raiders" but havent shown up to raids for months |
| 06:10.19 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer 07unitguid * r1105 GridStatusMana.lua: |
| 06:10.22 | Repo | Ticket 41: Hopefully fix showing deathknights as low on mana. |
| 06:10.58 | quiescens | /oom |
| 06:11.12 | rndmntngnt | my gm atleast doesnt kick people out of the guild but with 500+ members needs to organise who is actually raiding, casual, alternate etc |
| 06:11.17 | pastamancer | did UnitPowerType always have two returns? |
| 06:12.14 | quiescens | don't think so |
| 06:12.52 | quiescens | hmm |
| 06:12.58 | pastamancer | I think thats what was confusing grid |
| 06:13.05 | quiescens | I'm not sure I guess |
| 06:14.24 | theoddone33 | yay maly down |
| 06:14.30 | theoddone33 | they said it was realm 6th but I think not |
| 06:14.43 | theoddone33 | looks more like realm ninth horde 5th |
| 06:16.29 | rndmntngnt | grats |
| 06:17.14 | doom0r | pastamancer: the page on wowwiki was changed between sepetember and october |
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| 06:19.03 | doom0r | i dont' see any notice of changes elsewhere, i.e. per patch change lists |
| 06:22.11 | Torhal | ckknight: I found 'teh' AWESOME |
| 06:22.14 | Torhal | Date created: 1 minute from now |
| 06:22.22 | ckknight | oh? |
| 06:22.31 | Torhal | I edited one of my pages |
| 06:22.42 | Torhal | That was under "Facts" |
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| 06:23.04 | ckknight | oh |
| 06:23.05 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:23.15 | ckknight | your computer's time and the server's time are out of sync. |
| 06:23.23 | Torhal | Heh |
| 06:23.30 | ckknight | it gives you the UTC timestamp |
| 06:23.43 | ckknight | you're reading it and it looks like the future |
| 06:23.48 | ckknight | that's handled in javascript, btw |
| 06:24.46 | ckknight | what server should I make my new WoW character on? |
| 06:24.51 | ckknight | (US Alliance) |
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| 06:30.21 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 60b5b1f Modules/ (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] user power token instead of power type where applicable. this will make fuel and ammo show up on vehicles. |
| 06:33.03 | doom0r | if you're fond of the login screen, manno |
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| 06:38.44 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r158 Locales/Locale-enUS.lua: |
| 06:38.46 | Repo | Added many new default resurrection speeches for all applicable classes, taken from LunarSphere |
| 06:42.03 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r159 / (3 files in 1 directory): updated change log and version number |
| 06:45.11 | Aiiane | anything but Garona |
| 06:45.36 | Aiiane | (delayed response @ ckknight) |
| 06:45.54 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner 04v3.0.3.25-release * r160 : Tagged release 3.0.3.25 |
| 06:45.58 | ckknight | I went to a server created in November |
| 06:46.29 | Aiiane | that could be the best or worst decision you've ever made |
| 06:46.35 | Aiiane | (chances are it's not either, though) |
| 06:46.44 | Zyndrome | or awesome |
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| 06:48.08 | Stanzilla | ckknight: the question is, will you just code or actually play the character :p |
| 06:48.17 | ckknight | hard to gauge |
| 06:48.26 | Zyndrome | I remember when I started playing WoW, just when the RP-PVP servers began to pop up ... hopped onto the first one that got up, at the same moment it came online for the first time |
| 06:48.34 | Aiiane | ckk will branch into writing wow bots |
| 06:48.40 | Aiiane | and thus enable himself to do both at once |
| 06:49.35 | Torhal | Aiiane: You mean, he's NOT a wowbot? |
| 06:49.42 | ckknight | what do people use for EQCompare? |
| 06:49.48 | ckknight | or whatever |
| 06:49.49 | Torhal | ckknight: Tekkompare |
| 06:49.50 | Lukian | shift key |
| 06:49.55 | ckknight | I don't like the shift key |
| 06:50.02 | Aiiane | curseforge just hard-500'd again >< |
| 06:50.12 | ckknight | gnomes |
| 06:50.28 | onaforeignshore | EquipCompare |
| 06:50.33 | Cheads | tekKompare |
| 06:50.39 | doom0r | shift key, compare addon is not good with auctioneer/informant + cowtip + qh etc |
| 06:50.43 | Stanzilla | tekKompare |
| 06:50.57 | Torhal | Tekkub: We're talking about you again. |
| 06:51.00 | Xinhuan | i don't compare. |
| 06:51.03 | onaforeignshore | doom0r: I second that |
| 06:51.07 | Xinhuan | i use ratingbuster to compare with |
| 06:51.12 | Cheads | doom0r tekKompare works fine with those addons |
| 06:51.14 | Xinhuan | and that doesn't require showing 2 tooltips |
| 06:51.26 | doom0r | Cheads: you completely missed the point |
| 06:51.58 | doom0r | go take a mix of those and look at items in dalaran |
| 06:52.15 | Cheads | and? |
| 06:52.20 | Xinhuan | i configure ratingbuster to show stat differences to equipped item, so yeah ;p |
| 06:52.32 | doom0r | try to get a fps |
| 06:52.51 | Cheads | doom0r not a problem at all |
| 06:53.04 | Cheads | I have those addons enabled (not cowtip but startip) ... |
| 06:53.17 | doom0r | mmm, go get cowtip and have a go ;x |
| 06:53.32 | Cheads | no thanks, happy with startip |
| 06:54.18 | Cheads | I must admit I'm trying to use auctioneer + informant less and less =) |
| 06:54.27 | Stanzilla | cowtip crashed my wow on every kil jaeden try :> |
| 06:54.56 | ckknight | ...my bad |
| 06:55.06 | sztanpet | @project mirror |
| 06:55.08 | Stanzilla | :> |
| 06:55.11 | doom0r | i turned down the displayed options on auctioneer when not on a banking char |
| 06:55.14 | Arrowmaster | cowtip does have some nasty tooltip skinning code that trys to effect every tooltip |
| 06:55.17 | ckknight | after working on PB4, I believe the secret to making good mods is to do it more than once. |
| 06:55.26 | Repo | sztanpet: http://www.wowace.com/projects/mirror/. Mirror. Game: WoW. Status: Abandoned. (Automatic) Abandoned since out-of-date for 60 days.. bigzero (Manager/Author). Updated: 98 days ago |
| 06:55.34 | doom0r | i like it taking over the skinning, i don't like the side effects |
| 06:55.43 | sztanpet | used that for eqcompare |
| 06:55.50 | Arrowmaster | tekkompare |
| 06:55.52 | Mikk | just holds down shift |
| 06:55.55 | ckknight | :P |
| 06:56.00 | sztanpet | but yea, tekkompare |
| 06:56.07 | doom0r | for always on, tek for sure |
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| 06:56.38 | Arrowmaster | mirror was just a stupid ripoff of tekkompare anyway |
| 06:56.46 | Arrowmaster | just it did it poorly |
| 06:57.11 | doom0r | i don't see hwo a ripoff could fail, it's like 25 lines |
| 06:57.33 | Arrowmaster | it did |
| 06:57.51 | doom0r | you'd have to add crap to make soemthing even work |
| 06:57.53 | doom0r | lol |
| 06:58.38 | Arrowmaster | it tried to do the same thing without being a direct copy but did it in shitty ways |
| 06:58.45 | doom0r | i use ratingbuster and link, compare is pretty useless when you've started using those tools |
| 06:58.52 | doom0r | s/link/links/ |
| 07:00.00 | doom0r | no sense in a floating tooltip when you can just drop what you need on the screen and take a look |
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| 07:09.59 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r161 Locales/Locale-enUS.lua: |
| 07:10.01 | Repo | Removed Hot Streak from default messages for mages, because it procs too often to use it by default. |
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| 07:12.05 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r111 Core.lua: |
| 07:12.15 | Repo | Added some comments to the code explaining some of the functions. |
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| 07:14.38 | Cheads | doom0r if you dont like the hovertips then just rename HoverTips.lua in the tekKompare folder |
| 07:16.48 | Torhal | Screw you guys. I'm going to bed. |
| 07:16.51 | doom0r | ???? |
| 07:17.07 | doom0r | i never even mentioned anythign about linking |
| 07:17.57 | doom0r | i don't need compare every single time i pass over an item in a bag |
| 07:19.46 | Cheads | I thought you were refering to the hovertips that some find annoying |
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| 07:39.07 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r112 Options.lua: Fixed a bug with the Sound Settings options panel. |
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| 07:41.53 | onaforeignshore | gives up searching for Curse Client 2.1 beta link |
| 07:42.09 | onaforeignshore | * alpha, not beta |
| 07:42.29 | onaforeignshore | goes off to bed... |
| 07:42.43 | rndmntngnt | lol night |
| 07:42.50 | onaforeignshore | night guys... guess 07:43am is about bedtime |
| 07:43.21 | CrazyBenny | @project stalker |
| 07:43.22 | Repo | CrazyBenny: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/stalker/. Stalker. Game: WoW. Croy9000 (Manager/Author). Updated: 3 hours ago. Tickets: 2/3 |
| 07:55.21 | doom0r | what do you never see, can mess you up in 3 seconds flat, and can be killed with 2 ounces of water? |
| 07:57.09 | Sunwind | gremlins |
| 07:57.33 | doom0r | pretty sure you see those |
| 07:57.48 | Sunwind | ninja gremlins |
| 07:58.11 | Sunwind | what's the answer? |
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| 07:58.18 | doom0r | fair enough |
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| 07:58.24 | doom0r | i was going for gnome rogue |
| 08:01.23 | the-golem | LMAO |
| 08:01.23 | the-golem | gnome rogues |
| 08:01.31 | the-golem | sucks when your a tauren |
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| 08:06.17 | doom0r | how's that? |
| 08:06.42 | Aiiane | they get lost |
| 08:06.44 | the-golem | Huge tauren against a teeny tiny gnome |
| 08:07.22 | the-golem | Its like.. having a fly buzzing your head and it wont sit still long enough to swat it |
| 08:08.36 | Bruners | tauren rogues would rock |
| 08:09.16 | doom0r | no way, they should do night el..... oh wait |
| 08:10.57 | Aiiane | furbolg rogue go |
| 08:11.13 | doom0r | omg, have you seen the new furblog animations? |
| 08:11.17 | doom0r | they have a bunch now |
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| 08:15.32 | Aiiane | furblog? |
| 08:15.38 | Aiiane | sounds too much like yiff to me |
| 08:15.40 | Aiiane | :P |
| 08:17.02 | doom0r | that's how everyone i've played with has always said/typed it =\ |
| 08:17.14 | quiescens | =/ |
| 08:18.41 | erikh | furbolg? |
| 08:19.12 | doom0r | yes |
| 08:19.16 | doom0r | that's what the proper is |
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| 08:25.51 | NeoTron | is now Morasia the Undying. |
| 08:26.00 | NeoTron | love that title. feels like it was an actual achievement |
| 08:26.27 | Fisker- | Undying is so easy |
| 08:26.36 | Fisker- | i'm ashamed we didn't get it last time |
| 08:27.04 | Fisker- | 8 man naxx is kinda fun |
| 08:27.27 | Fisker- | gothik is actually kinda hard |
| 08:27.50 | Fisker- | maexxna as well |
| 08:27.54 | NeoTron | I seriously doubt gothik is hard |
| 08:27.56 | NeoTron | Maexxna I can see |
| 08:27.57 | Fisker- | but i guess that was more about group composition |
| 08:28.06 | quiescens | what exactly is undying? |
| 08:28.07 | NeoTron | but half of gothik is just standing there doing nothing |
| 08:28.21 | NeoTron | no one in the riad dying on boss fights |
| 08:28.24 | Fisker- | You get really swamped in the end |
| 08:28.27 | quiescens | we have certain people that don't know how to play frogger and die on the slimes after patchwerk |
| 08:28.40 | Fisker- | so what? |
| 08:28.43 | Fisker- | Not a boss fight |
| 08:28.44 | NeoTron | that wouldn't count, only boss fights |
| 08:28.47 | quiescens | lol |
| 08:28.54 | NeoTron | but we only had two deaths all night (a mage on aoe trash) |
| 08:29.06 | Fisker- | We would've gotten undying if it wasn't for a wipe on 4 horsemen |
| 08:29.14 | Fisker- | And that was doing the achievements |
| 08:29.25 | Fisker- | so stuff like letting faerlina enrage and such |
| 08:29.38 | the-golem | "firbolg" |
| 08:29.56 | doom0r | ?? |
| 08:29.59 | Fisker- | and we only wiped on 4 horsemen because we had to use a pretty different tactic than we're used to |
| 08:30.01 | NeoTron | we did maexxna enrage, 20m spider wing, fast patchwek clear, heigan dance (obviously), shocking too |
| 08:30.05 | quiescens | do you actually have to let faerlina enrage? |
| 08:30.22 | NeoTron | just kill the adds and tank faerlina |
| 08:30.23 | Fisker- | depends on your dps i guess |
| 08:30.31 | NeoTron | was a 3 hr clear |
| 08:30.48 | Fisker- | we just let adds die to aoe didn't really bother timing it |
| 08:30.48 | NeoTron | http://wowwebstats.com/fs2jzrmboa145 |
| 08:31.24 | mitch0 | . |
| 08:31.52 | Industrial | GOOD MORNING LEMMINGS |
| 08:31.52 | Fisker- | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Fiskerdin |
| 08:32.25 | Fisker- | how i got "Gonna go when the volcano blows" is beyond me though |
| 08:32.36 | Fisker- | that achievement is like impossible if you're actually alive throughout the whole fight |
| 08:32.54 | doom0r | when the hell are they gonna fix the 10/25man split on wws |
| 08:33.49 | quiescens | can be hard to be sure which is which purely from a combat log |
| 08:33.59 | NeoTron | it is almost random luck |
| 08:34.09 | NeoTron | doom0r: I was just wondering that |
| 08:34.26 | NeoTron | quiescens: 10 man have 10 or fewer people, 25 man have more.. :P |
| 08:34.28 | NeoTron | not that hard |
| 08:34.53 | doom0r | i suppose quiescens, there has to be a way, especially since you can total boss hp and figure the difference there for a start |
| 08:35.08 | doom0r | i'm sure there's other things that could be checked |
| 08:35.18 | quiescens | you would have to combine like a half dozen checks probably |
| 08:35.36 | quiescens | people might swap people in and out during a raid |
| 08:35.53 | quiescens | people might go from a 25man group to a 10 man raid |
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| 08:36.04 | NeoTron | ... |
| 08:36.05 | quiescens | basing on hp would only work for actual kills |
| 08:36.09 | NeoTron | each fight has 10 or less people |
| 08:36.13 | NeoTron | you can swap mid-fight |
| 08:36.21 | NeoTron | there is zero problems in seeing the difference, at all |
| 08:36.38 | NeoTron | if(numppl <= 10) 10-man else 25-man |
| 08:36.40 | NeoTron | hard |
| 08:36.41 | NeoTron | not |
| 08:36.49 | NeoTron | however WWS author is pretty bad |
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| 08:36.53 | NeoTron | like it still bugs on pets |
| 08:37.07 | sztanpet | it regularly doesnt count pets, wws does |
| 08:37.27 | erikh | bugs have nothing to do with author quality anywyas |
| 08:37.34 | erikh | all code has bugs :) |
| 08:38.11 | NeoTron | no no |
| 08:38.19 | NeoTron | the WWS guy is always unresponse, slow to fix bugs, etc |
| 08:38.25 | NeoTron | always. not just this |
| 08:38.47 | doom0r | Ubuntu bug #1 proves that bugs have nothing to do with author quality indeed ;x |
| 08:38.49 | NeoTron | like it didn't work for weeks for a while and he wasn't even around |
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| 08:41.25 | Fisker- | http://www.wowmeteronline.com/ >WWS though |
| 08:42.02 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 08:42.52 | Fisker- | http://i41.tinypic.com/2lmxcf5.jpg <-this is no coincidence |
| 08:43.01 | doom0r | i think Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy randomly beginning to play in your head might indicate a little bit of crazy |
| 08:43.09 | doom0r | should have that checked out |
| 08:45.21 | doom0r | Fisker-: why are you still using cl2? |
| 08:45.38 | Bruners | cl2? |
| 08:45.55 | doom0r | CraftList2 |
| 08:47.20 | doom0r | people weren't smart enough to use it before prof links were introduced, let alone it having any use now |
| 08:47.50 | doom0r | i've literally watched people sit in trade for hours begging for a single crafted item mats link |
| 08:47.54 | Fisker- | people are here :3 |
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| 08:48.48 | Bruners | A new command is available : !full <craftname>, returning the link to the profession, browsable directly by the person requesting the link. |
| 08:48.57 | Bruners | would be useful enough |
| 08:49.05 | Bruners | *could |
| 08:49.17 | doom0r | yes, you don't need the rest of it though |
| 08:50.37 | doom0r | even still, who's gonna actually make use of it? |
| 08:50.47 | doom0r | 1-2 people that know your tradeskills? |
| 08:51.07 | Bruners | maby fisker got loads of friends that use it :P |
| 08:51.29 | doom0r | satisfy the first part and we'll discuss using it or not :P |
| 08:52.12 | doom0r | taunts Fisker- |
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| 08:56.56 | Fisker- | slaps doom0r around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:57.08 | Fisker- | I don't sell enchants outside the guild anyways |
| 08:57.26 | doom0r | you make your guild pay for enchants? |
| 08:57.39 | quiescens | through the teeth |
| 08:58.24 | Fisker- | Noone pays for my enchants doom0r |
| 08:58.33 | Fisker- | Using the term sell is just pratical though |
| 08:59.02 | quiescens | fisker is made of monies |
| 08:59.38 | Fisker- | yep |
| 09:00.33 | doom0r | "I don't sell enchants" implies somethign totally different in english |
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| 09:01.19 | Fisker- | Your mom |
| 09:01.28 | Bruners | doom0r: what? |
| 09:01.52 | Fisker- | but doom0r |
| 09:01.57 | Fisker- | i sell it for kisses and thank yous |
| 09:02.14 | the-golem | *cough* |
| 09:02.24 | doom0r | Bruners: like the concept of an idiom |
| 09:03.41 | the-golem | His statement actually doesn't say anything referring to people IN the guild. He doesn't sell to outsiders, at all. Whether he charges guildies isn't addressed. |
| 09:03.43 | the-golem | hides. |
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| 09:06.34 | Zyndrome | http://everythingisterrible.blogspot.com/ |
| 09:06.41 | Fisker- | yay the-golem |
| 09:06.43 | Fisker- | i has winrar |
| 09:07.01 | doom0r | the-golem: while true, something like "outside the guild" in that statement implies a partial case, and is typically viewed as the thing avoided being the opposite |
| 09:07.22 | Fisker- | stop stealing my winrar :( |
| 09:09.59 | doom0r | there's no way the chick in the second "CBS Cares About Your Prostate" is straight |
| 09:10.00 | the-golem | I know, I felt like being a stick in the mud >.< |
| 09:10.15 | doom0r | i'm sure she has 0 interest in some dudes prostate |
| 09:11.04 | Fisker- | <3 people who put up stuff for less than vendor price |
| 09:19.52 | mitch0 | is there a FAQ about setting up the donation button thingy? |
| 09:20.40 | mitch0 | or someone here willing to help me out a bit? :) |
| 09:21.22 | Arrowmaster | you need a faq for it? |
| 09:21.35 | Fisker- | lets all troll mitch0 |
| 09:21.35 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 09:21.36 | mitch0 | I'm kinda new to this paypal thing... |
| 09:22.16 | mitch0 | first of all, I only have a personal paypal acc, not sure if I can have these buttons with it |
| 09:22.35 | Arrowmaster | did you follow the link? |
| 09:22.55 | mitch0 | I did |
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| 09:25.50 | mitch0 | also, should I create separate buttons for each addon, or just create a generic "wow-addons" button? |
| 09:26.14 | Arrowmaster | depends on whatever you want i guess |
| 09:26.14 | mitch0 | (not that I actually expect any donations, but I'd like to try it out anyway :) |
| 09:26.27 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r113 / (4 files in 2 directories): Completely redesigned the DataBroker tooltip. |
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| 09:31.06 | mitch0 | is there any addon that have this donation thing set up already? |
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| 09:31.13 | syeren | Is the site dying for anyone else? |
| 09:31.18 | mitch0 | yes |
| 09:31.28 | sztanpet | its gonna be fixed later today |
| 09:31.30 | doom0r | mitch0: ckk's |
| 09:31.38 | doom0r | also qh |
| 09:31.45 | doom0r | and plenty more |
| 09:33.15 | mitch0 | hm. where should I look for that button? can't find it on pitbull's curse page |
| 09:33.55 | doom0r | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/fubar.aspx |
| 09:34.16 | doom0r | also there's a variant on qh |
| 09:35.17 | mitch0 | doomor: I'm probably n00bish here, but I can't find the button on that page... |
| 09:35.20 | Arrowmaster | thats completely different afaik |
| 09:35.41 | doom0r | big huge gold button |
| 09:35.56 | mitch0 | the "W"? |
| 09:36.01 | sztanpet | any ad blockers interfering? |
| 09:36.10 | Arrowmaster | the button that doesnt even work |
| 09:36.14 | doom0r | look at the description |
| 09:36.20 | Arrowmaster | thats not using the donation system |
| 09:36.35 | Arrowmaster | so stop looking for it, its not what you are looking for |
| 09:36.57 | mitch0 | ok. could you tell me another one that _does_ use the donation system? ::) |
| 09:37.14 | mitch0 | arrow: are yours using it? |
| 09:37.22 | Arrowmaster | i dont even think curse supports it yet |
| 09:37.28 | Arrowmaster | fuck no |
| 09:37.33 | Arrowmaster | i hate paypal |
| 09:37.38 | mitch0 | eh ;) |
| 09:38.09 | Repo | 10rating-buster: 03Whitetooth * r197 / (5 files in 1 directory): - Use LibStatLogic-1.1 and LibTipHooker-1.1 |
| 09:38.25 | mitch0 | how long these site-meltdowns usually last? (wowace) |
| 09:38.50 | sztanpet | longest one was about seven min long |
| 09:38.58 | sztanpet | if i remember correctly |
| 09:39.54 | Repo | 10tank-points: 03Whitetooth * r92 / (7 files in 1 directory): - Use LibStatLogic-1.1 and LibTipHooker-1.1 |
| 09:40.07 | Arrowmaster | sacarasc: stalker |
| 09:40.10 | sacarasc | :p |
| 09:42.05 | doom0r | i think it's less of supports it as it is they broke what already worked |
| 09:42.13 | doom0r | re: donate buttons |
| 09:42.31 | doom0r | pretty sure there were quite a few that had em |
| 09:42.36 | Arrowmaster | the donate buttons didnt work on curse |
| 09:43.00 | Arrowmaster | not since curse has done project management via curseforge/wowace |
| 09:44.05 | doom0r | k, so they worked, just the page doesn't get imported properly |
| 09:44.23 | doom0r | mitch0: go look at one of those's page on wowace/cf |
| 09:44.39 | Arrowmaster | thats not a proper donate one either |
| 09:44.53 | mitch0 | doom0r: been looking on cf/wowace only (not on curse) |
| 09:45.03 | mitch0 | and haven't found anything resempbling a donate button :) |
| 09:45.47 | doom0r | @project cartographer |
| 09:45.49 | Repo | doom0r: http://www.wowace.com/projects/cartographer/. Cartographer. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author), Arrowmaster (Author), Moncai (Author), AbydosLanti (Author). Updated: 24 days ago. Tickets: 26/90 |
| 09:46.10 | mitch0 | yay! |
| 09:46.14 | mitch0 | there it is, thanks :) |
| 09:46.21 | Arrowmaster | thats not a donate button you are looking for |
| 09:46.34 | mitch0 | ah, that's a manually inserted one, right? |
| 09:46.40 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 09:46.52 | mitch0 | well, I can try that for starters... |
| 09:47.46 | doom0r | there's nothing automagical about anything but a text link |
| 09:47.51 | doom0r | i don't see the point |
| 09:48.46 | Arrowmaster | thats all the donate thing does afaik |
| 09:49.17 | doom0r | -03:46:21- [Arrowmaster]: thats not a donate button you are looking for |
| 09:49.26 | doom0r | ^ what elese is there |
| 09:51.53 | Arrowmaster | doom0r: one created from actually using the donation info feature? |
| 09:52.58 | doom0r | https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_pdn_donate_techview_outside |
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| 10:02.04 | mitch0 | ok, I can't insert the paypal provided html in the project page... guess I'll wait for ckk and ask him how he did it ;) |
| 10:02.15 | ckknight | Edit donation info |
| 10:02.24 | mitch0 | ah, here you are :) |
| 10:02.42 | mitch0 | ok, so, can I have this hosted button thing with a personal account, or I need premier or business acc? |
| 10:03.05 | Arrowmaster | personal im guessing, but youll get fucked over by paypal |
| 10:03.31 | mitch0 | ckk: I created a button on paypal, but I can't seem to find that "hosted_button_id" thing |
| 10:03.36 | Arrowmaster | i think they only allow personal accounts to be sent money 5 times a year or something |
| 10:03.59 | ckknight | mitch0: what's the form paypal provides you? |
| 10:04.03 | mitch0 | arrow: only via credit cards. paypal transfers are allowed unlimited, afak |
| 10:04.19 | Kuja^ | Whitetooth: ping, saw my curse pm? |
| 10:04.20 | mitch0 | ckk: should I pastey it? |
| 10:04.27 | ckknight | yes |
| 10:04.33 | Arrowmaster | to me paypal = credit card |
| 10:04.39 | Arrowmaster | using it any other way is retarded |
| 10:04.51 | Whitetooth | Kuja^:let me check |
| 10:06.14 | mitch0 | ckk: http://ace.pastey.net/105579 |
| 10:06.37 | ckknight | mitch0: that's way complex |
| 10:06.48 | ckknight | is there an option for a less secure one? |
| 10:06.53 | ckknight | I think there's that option |
| 10:07.14 | mitch0 | lemme check |
| 10:07.34 | EthanCentaurai | You'll need to upgrade to a Business account if you want PayPal to actually "host" your button |
| 10:07.52 | EthanCentaurai | there is no hosted_button_id for Personal types |
| 10:08.13 | Whitetooth | Kuja: for debugging to work you need to do /sldebug when you log in before you mouse over the item |
| 10:08.26 | Kuja^ | i did that |
| 10:08.40 | mitch0 | ethan: hohum :( |
| 10:08.47 | Kuja^ | it works on other items |
| 10:08.50 | ckknight | EthanCentaurai: ah |
| 10:08.55 | ckknight | EthanCentaurai: okay then |
| 10:09.07 | ckknight | mitch0: you're SOL, soz |
| 10:09.11 | EthanCentaurai | upgrade to Business or use Pledgie :) |
| 10:09.18 | Whitetooth | what doesn't it work on? |
| 10:09.23 | Arrowmaster | like i said, paypal sucks |
| 10:09.29 | doom0r | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmfSqN88tsc LOL |
| 10:09.32 | mitch0 | never heard of pledgie... |
| 10:09.59 | Kuja^ | hrm, did i forgot to tell you which item i mean? let me check again |
| 10:11.02 | Whitetooth | if there is no debug output, it means its been parsed already before you did /sldebug |
| 10:11.16 | Kuja^ | i *think* its related to the enchant, ratingbuster actually shows data in the tooltip, jst no debugging on mouseover |
| 10:11.47 | Kuja^ | well i did /rl and tried it again last time i checked, should be enough or not? |
| 10:11.55 | ckknight | doom0r: hehe |
| 10:12.33 | Whitetooth | so there is no debug output for all items? |
| 10:12.44 | Kuja^ | no only for that one |
| 10:13.20 | Kuja^ | therefore, i think its just related to the enchant, at least thats my guess, thats why i'd send you the diff in the pm |
| 10:13.32 | ckknight | doom0r: I find it's important to dress as if you're from the 80s |
| 10:14.05 | doom0r | sorry, i don't own any drapery |
| 10:14.40 | Whitetooth | I don't understand french, so what I can only do is help you get the debug output |
| 10:14.57 | Whitetooth | so you can fix it yourself |
| 10:15.29 | *** part/#wowace lmeyer (n=lars@wlan-client-134.informatik.uni-bremen.de) |
| 10:15.31 | Kuja^ | yeah.. (its german actually, but it dosn't matter anyway) :) |
| 10:15.35 | Whitetooth | 1. make sure statsummary is showing for that item |
| 10:15.51 | Whitetooth | yeah german sorry :p |
| 10:16.07 | Kuja^ | but im about to leave, so be so kind and send me a pm please so i know what i can try today |
| 10:16.15 | Kuja^ | bb |
| 10:16.18 | Whitetooth | k |
| 10:16.45 | Kuja^ | and yeah statsummery shows up for that item |
| 10:18.21 | Whitetooth | 2. change the DEBUG variable to true in code |
| 10:18.58 | Whitetooth | local DEBUG = true |
| 10:19.37 | Whitetooth | that way it defaults debug mode, so you don't need to type /sldebug |
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| 10:20.59 | Synthetic | random question |
| 10:21.10 | Synthetic | if i have an alliance level 80 |
| 10:21.15 | doom0r | maybe |
| 10:21.19 | doom0r | ^random answer |
| 10:21.21 | Synthetic | can i make a horde dk on another server? |
| 10:21.26 | Synthetic | whitty |
| 10:21.45 | doom0r | no |
| 10:21.58 | Synthetic | o.O |
| 10:21.59 | Synthetic | really |
| 10:22.03 | doom0r | in 3.0.8, yes |
| 10:22.17 | Synthetic | yeh great |
| 10:22.21 | Synthetic | thats what i wanted to hear |
| 10:22.31 | Synthetic | thanks |
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| 10:37.10 | Zhinjio | I'm gonna make a Higher Learning addon |
| 10:37.17 | Zhinjio | this is complete and utter silliness |
| 10:37.44 | Arrowmaster | i only need the one in the guild master area |
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| 10:38.12 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r33 / (5 files in 1 directory): Add AL data to chat link tooltips. |
| 10:38.15 | Repo | Add quantity info to tooltips. |
| 10:38.17 | Repo | Allow the above to be toggled with the shift key. |
| 10:38.19 | doom0r | quite a few people have been waiting for the ToF one on this server for a while |
| 10:39.14 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r114 Core.lua: Fixed a bug with the cooldown bars. |
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| 10:45.44 | Repo | 10grid-status-lifebloom: 03Azethoth * r39 GridStatusLifebloom.lua: -- Drop SpecialEventsEmbed-Auras |
| 10:45.46 | Repo | -- Update to latest guid branch api |
| 10:45.49 | Repo | -- Only compatible with the guid branch of Grid |
| 10:46.48 | doom0r | hmmm, 2 point imp evis or remorseless (leveling) |
| 11:02.40 | Hell-Razor | hey guys is there a way to just copy all the saved settings for a char and past it in another chars directory |
| 11:02.51 | Hell-Razor | im sick and tired of having to move everything =P |
| 11:03.01 | Zhinjio | use addons that allow profile copying |
| 11:03.19 | doom0r | dies |
| 11:03.34 | Zhinjio | you can do that ... but many addons won't understand the cut/paste without serious editing. |
| 11:03.42 | Zhinjio | so you are going to have mixed luck no matter what |
| 11:04.03 | Hell-Razor | alright |
| 11:04.24 | Zhinjio | most ace addons, for example, allow you to have all characters on the same server all use a "Default" profile, which will apply to all toons |
| 11:04.25 | Hell-Razor | ive always wanted a new unit frame... very simple -- the perls have way too many options for me |
| 11:05.46 | many | xperl has profiles |
| 11:06.45 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r115 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 11:06.48 | Repo | Added a chat command to get a detailed version string to be used when submitting bug reports. |
| 11:07.32 | Fisker- | yes! |
| 11:07.49 | Fisker- | Bullshit movies = win |
| 11:08.02 | Hell-Razor | many, xperl takes forever to find one setting imo... i want simpething like that but more simple |
| 11:08.26 | sztanpet | hah, you wont |
| 11:08.27 | many | its the price of flexibility |
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| 11:10.18 | Repo | 10grid-status-missing-buffs: 03Azethoth * r62 / (4 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 11:10.21 | Repo | -- Alpha version compatible with upcoming unitGuid version of grid. Requires that version of Grid to work. |
| 11:10.23 | Repo | -- Update to guid based status changes |
| 11:10.26 | Repo | -- Horn of Winter + Deathknight support |
| 11:10.29 | Repo | -- Dump SpecialEventsEmbed-Auras |
| 11:11.04 | Elkano | hmm... which addon is using Crb as prefix for addon comm? |
| 11:11.24 | doom0r | carbonite |
| 11:11.25 | many | Carbonite ,id guess |
| 11:12.55 | Elkano | hmmm, k |
| 11:16.04 | Hell-Razor | ug |
| 11:16.10 | Hell-Razor | ag_unitframes doesnt work |
| 11:21.13 | Repo | 10grid-status-missing-buffs: 03Azethoth * r63 GridStatusMissingBuffs.toc: -- Update note a bit |
| 11:23.32 | Repo | 10rating-buster: 03Whitetooth * r198 RatingBuster.lua: - Clear cache after profile switch |
| 11:23.35 | Repo | - StatSummary: Put Health with Stamina, Mana with Intellect |
| 11:33.48 | Elkano | Hell-Razor, works fine for me |
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| 11:46.19 | doom0r | @project little-trouble |
| 11:46.20 | Repo | doom0r: http://www.wowace.com/projects/little-trouble/. LittleTrouble. Game: WoW. Status: Abandoned. (Automatic) Abandoned since out-of-date for 60 days.. wowaceSVN (Manager/Author). Updated: 98 days ago |
| 11:48.16 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r47 / (3 files in 3 directories): |
| 11:48.19 | Repo | ZOMGBuffs: Tracker icons were being created each time rather than re-used. Also fixes problem where tracker hot key definition only ever worked for first icon created, and never again. |
| 11:50.22 | Fisker- | i think Zek is awesome |
| 11:50.46 | Zek | Who are you and what have you done with Fisker? |
| 11:55.08 | Zhinjio | Zek, you wrote something I use |
| 11:55.14 | Zhinjio | and wanted to ask questions about at one ponit |
| 11:55.21 | Zek | sure |
| 11:55.23 | Zhinjio | but I have no idea what |
| 11:55.32 | Zek | heh |
| 11:55.52 | Zhinjio | canyiou give me a hint? |
| 11:55.58 | Zhinjio | wow, typing bad. |
| 11:56.28 | Zek | ZOMGBuffs, Utopia, XPerl, GrimReaper... that's about it.. |
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| 11:56.52 | Zhinjio | wait, I thought Zek != Zeksie |
| 11:56.57 | Zhinjio | am I wrong? |
| 11:57.04 | Zek | Zek = Zeksie |
| 11:57.06 | Zhinjio | oh |
| 11:57.07 | Zhinjio | nm the |
| 11:57.09 | Zhinjio | then |
| 11:57.10 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 11:57.11 | Zeksie | ! |
| 11:57.23 | Zeksie | Zek is the irc backup name when conflicted. |
| 11:57.28 | Zhinjio | I see |
| 11:57.29 | Zeksie | and the name of my Rogue. |
| 11:57.43 | Zhinjio | cuz I've talked to you plenty about zomgbuffs |
| 11:57.47 | Zeksie | yeh |
| 11:57.55 | Zhinjio | I thought there was another addon by a "Zek" that was different from you |
| 11:58.05 | Zeksie | not that i know of |
| 11:58.38 | Zhinjio | *checking* |
| 11:59.03 | Zhinjio | maybe I'm just nuts. |
| 11:59.06 | Zhinjio | I'm surely possible. |
| 12:02.05 | Torhal | Zhinjio: You may be nuts. |
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| 12:11.04 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r48 ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs.lua: |
| 12:11.06 | Repo | ZOMGBuffs: Improvement to mount/dismount buff checking reliability. |
| 12:14.30 | Zhinjio | Torhal: I'm actually fairly certain that I am |
| 12:14.56 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Hehe |
| 12:16.34 | Torhal | Zhinjio: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/revelation.aspx and read the comments if you want to see something funny. |
| 12:17.28 | Torhal | Guy's trying his damnedest to get me to add disenchanting to Revelation. At one point, he mentions Tekkub's name as if I'm supposed to go "Well, if Tekkub could do it...I SHOULD do it." |
| 12:17.54 | Torhal | shakes his head. |
| 12:18.00 | Torhal | Anywho, gonna get ready for work. |
| 12:19.13 | Zhinjio | hilarious |
| 12:19.45 | Torhal | You read it? |
| 12:19.46 | Torhal | Heh |
| 12:19.51 | Zhinjio | yup |
| 12:20.16 | Torhal | Guy seemed a bit defensive about my action bar slot comment :) |
| 12:21.02 | Torhal | Then he goes on to define what an addon is. Classic. |
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| 12:27.08 | Bruners | Torhal: haha |
| 12:27.51 | doom0r | he's an idiot |
| 12:28.37 | doom0r | and he's made such an ass of himself with gaps in logic that i bothered to reply |
| 12:30.57 | doom0r | as much as he typed out his ass, he probably hit enough keys to code what he wanted himself |
| 12:32.17 | doom0r | o man, complete disregard for common sense and logic makes my blood boil |
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| 12:32.59 | doom0r | OMFG Torhal, make j00 addon d/ez so i don't click wrong thing |
| 12:33.08 | doom0r | ... |
| 12:33.18 | Grum | just tell him pebcak |
| 12:33.42 | Zao | Find out his character name and disenchant everything he touches automatically? |
| 12:34.00 | sacarasc | haha |
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| 12:35.12 | doom0r | i'm also interested to know how the hell that doesn't work with panda |
| 12:38.14 | doom0r | mmk, sleep |
| 12:38.40 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r4885 Naxxramas/Faerlina.lua: BigWigs: Naxxramas/Faerlina: |
| 12:38.42 | Repo | - Add missing local |
| 12:45.07 | Repo | 10buttonfacade_caith: 03StormFX * r42 / (3 files in 1 directory): - Fixed a typo. |
| 12:45.09 | Repo | - Adjusted the version. |
| 12:45.12 | Repo | - Fixed it so that debuff coloring works. |
| 12:47.19 | Repo | 10xperl: 03Zeksie * r254 XPerl_RaidFrames/XPerl_Raid.lua: |
| 12:47.22 | Repo | XPerl: Applied same fix for curable/castable to raid frames. |
| 12:51.23 | Repo | 10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme * r16 EggTimer.lua: EggTimer: |
| 12:51.25 | Repo | - fixed bug preventing items from being detected |
| 12:51.28 | Repo | - fixed bug with tooltip contents |
| 12:51.30 | Repo | - fixed bug with deletion of stale item information |
| 12:53.06 | Mackatack | Anyone know if theres an addon that creates a unitframe like when you /focus a unit. But i'd like to track more than one. |
| 12:53.23 | Repo | 10buttonfacade_caith: 03StormFX 043.0.42 * r43 : Tagging as 3.0.42 |
| 12:54.30 | Grum | not possible |
| 12:55.42 | Repo | 10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme 04v0.2-beta2 * r17 : (Message trimmed by 3 lines) |
| 12:55.44 | Repo | EggTimer: |
| 12:55.47 | Repo | - FuBar tooltip still not working :( |
| 12:55.49 | Repo | - fixed completely broken item detection |
| 12:55.52 | Repo | - fixed bugs with tooltip contents |
| 12:55.53 | Grum | you can only get data from: target/focus and everyones target |
| 12:55.53 | Mackatack | Grum: not possible or there is no such addon? |
| 12:56.24 | Mackatack | i see |
| 12:58.17 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03cremor * r4886 Naxxramas/Faerlina.lua: |
| 12:58.19 | Repo | Faerlina: Added the SpellId of the 10 men version frenzy. That should fix the missing frenzy bars. |
| 12:58.23 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03kagaro * r636 GatherMate.toc: (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 12:58.25 | Repo | GatherMate: 1.0.11 Tag for Release |
| 12:58.28 | Repo | Fixes in this release: |
| 12:58.30 | Repo | Eastern Plague land size updates |
| 12:58.33 | Repo | Node remapping for lake wintergrasp |
| 12:58.51 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03kagaro 04v1.0.11 * r637 : Tagging as v1.0.11 |
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| 12:59.27 | Repo | 10ouf_sb: 03smb * r5 / (2 files in 1 directory): - some fixes + support for latest oUF |
| 12:59.30 | Repo | - toc to 30000 |
| 13:00.19 | Repo | 10ouf_sb: 03smb 04v0.2 * r6 : Tagging as v0.2 |
| 13:05.49 | dodga | Soooo, where do I get LibTradeLinks-1.0 from, that is needed by Gnomish Yellow Pages :D |
| 13:10.09 | Grum | what does it do? |
| 13:10.20 | Grum | compile tradelinks? i think it is hardlinked in TradeLinks |
| 13:11.34 | dodga | GYP or LibTradeLinks? |
| 13:11.42 | digmouse | anyone know if blz will make changes to HAT? |
| 13:12.29 | Codayus | Yes. It's bugged. The bug will be fixed. |
| 13:13.44 | digmouse | how was it intended to be? |
| 13:14.21 | Megalon | i think it was intended to have a cooldown on getting combopoints when others in your party crit ;) |
| 13:14.27 | Codayus | Pretty much what it reads on the tooltip. :-) If anyone gets a crit in your party, you gain a talent point. |
| 13:14.31 | Codayus | Er. |
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| 13:14.33 | Codayus | Combo point |
| 13:14.40 | Codayus | And no, it's not intended to have a cooldown. |
| 13:14.42 | Grum | that is erm kinda insane |
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| 13:14.47 | Codayus | Not really. |
| 13:14.50 | digmouse | I thought it was caused lack of hidden cooldown |
| 13:15.03 | Megalon | This effect cannot occur more than once every second. |
| 13:15.04 | Codayus | What's insane is what it CURRENTLY does, where EVERY rogue in the party with HAT gets a combo point FOR EACH rogue in the party with HAT. |
| 13:15.05 | digmouse | but the problem is it doesnt have a cooldown |
| 13:15.29 | Codayus | Sorry, hidden cooldown, I meant. |
| 13:15.36 | onaforeign|afk | I have a few questions about the Curse Client. 1. does it automatically install Libraries as standalone? 2. if not, if you install standalone libraries, does it strip them from any addons you install / update? |
| 13:15.42 | digmouse | so the only way sounds like a hidden cooldown |
| 13:16.19 | Pneumatus | onaforeign|afk: the latest alphas can handle no-libs but not the general release version afaik |
| 13:16.22 | Codayus | The talent *as designed* is not broken, not insane, and not amazingly strong, mostly because it's deep in a tree which is really not that great for raw DPS. The bugged version is crazy. |
| 13:16.32 | Codayus | digmouse: "When anyone in your group critically hits with a damage or healing spell or ability, you have a 100% chance to gain a combo point on your current target. This effect cannot occur more than once every second." |
| 13:17.07 | digmouse | Codayus: so the problem is the cooldown makes non sense here? |
| 13:17.12 | Codayus | It's not a HIDDEN cooldown, it's a COOLDOWN. And frankly, the talent would be fine without one at all, if it wasn't bugged. (Well, it might be a bit strong for the subtlety tree, but it wouldn't be game breaking.) |
| 13:17.42 | digmouse | so the fix is bring the 1sec cooldown back? |
| 13:17.50 | Codayus | NO. |
| 13:18.02 | digmouse | and what? |
| 13:18.04 | Codayus | It has a cooldown. It's always had a cooldown. The cooldown works just fine. The cooldown isn't going away. |
| 13:18.13 | Codayus | The problem is a BUG completely unrelated to the cooldown. |
| 13:18.14 | digmouse | too short? |
| 13:18.17 | Skellum | Ahhh HAT. Hat needs to be fixed. |
| 13:18.40 | Skellum | Rogue DPS doesnt get fixed until HAT gets fixed. |
| 13:19.04 | Codayus | If there are 5 rogues in the party, and 1 crits, you should gain 1 combo point, and cannot gain another one from that rogue until 1s has passed. This is the talent as designed, and as the tooltip reads. |
| 13:19.10 | onaforeign|afk | only 10 addons not supported on Curse, so I'll bite the bullet and uninstall wowmatrix |
| 13:19.41 | Codayus | As it currently works, you get 5 combo points (if they all have HAT), and you cannot gain another five from that rogue until 1s has passed. The cooldown works just fine, the problem is the bug. |
| 13:19.42 | Skellum | A rogue being able to spam SnD and Evis with no other abilities used doesnt sound correct. |
| 13:20.03 | dodga | Skellum: Would make sense to me :P |
| 13:20.30 | Skellum | As a warlock, Haunt doesnt mean I only hit 2 buttons now, metamorph does not mean I stop using my old abilities nor does Chaos bolt. |
| 13:20.38 | Skellum | Same for every other class in the game. |
| 13:20.57 | Skellum | Look at blizzards talent design, a 51 is not a class defining skill, just a nifty skill |
| 13:21.35 | kenlyric | CoH |
| 13:21.42 | Codayus | GC has been pretty clear, rogues should be doing top single target DPS, but they aren't unless they abuse HAT spec, which is 1) bugged, and 2) the most boring spec possible. So once its fixed to be sane, Bliz can't buff rogues, and everyone will be happy. Unfortunatly, I don't think it's being fixed until after 3.0.8... |
| 13:21.44 | Pneumatus | CoH is 41-point |
| 13:21.48 | Skellum | And thats getting a 6-8 second CD. |
| 13:22.02 | kenlyric | oh, i didn't realize you were being a douchbag, my mistake |
| 13:22.04 | Zao | Has blizz said anything about any .8 timeframe? |
| 13:22.10 | kenlyric | I thought we were talking about end tree talents. |
| 13:22.11 | Skellum | No, Kenly is right. Its functioning in a lot of the same ways as HAT. Replacing other abilities functions. |
| 13:22.15 | Repo | 10fubar_instanceinfofu: 03Belazor 04v1.1 * r45 : Tagging as v1.1 |
| 13:22.37 | Skellum | A lot of times for priests it was far more effective to spam a less mana efficient CoH then use FoL/Gheal/PoH |
| 13:22.43 | Codayus | Mmmm, what would Fury be with Titans Grip? |
| 13:22.46 | Skellum | Priests have more heal tools then any other class |
| 13:22.55 | Codayus | Lots of 41/51/whatever talents are spec defining. |
| 13:22.57 | Skellum | Coda, it ads on to existing skills. |
| 13:23.10 | Skellum | You dont stop using your other warrior abilities, you just use more. |
| 13:23.21 | Codayus | Pft, fine, scourge strike replaced oblit. :-p |
| 13:23.41 | Skellum | And the most DPS spec for DKs is unholy? |
| 13:23.56 | Codayus | Skellum: Well, it was until a couple weeks ago. |
| 13:24.00 | Skellum | The highest DPS spec for them atm is an absurd looking DW spec that shouldnt work in any sort of way. |
| 13:24.14 | Skellum | And it only gets worse when the CD on howling blast is taken away. |
| 13:24.47 | Pneumatus | deep unholy is only any good if only 1 DK has it, due to ebon plague only being applied by 1 dk |
| 13:24.53 | Codayus | I admit, the HB cooldown removal doesn't make a lot of sense to me. |
| 13:24.59 | Skellum | I'd like to make this clear here and now though. Rogue PvE dps is broken atm. HAT needs to be fixed to put them in line with hunters/locks. Rogues shouldnt either be bad, or OP cum HAT |
| 13:25.00 | Pneumatus | meaning any other unholy dks get gimped with lack of diseases |
| 13:25.22 | Codayus | Pneumatus: Actually, making the second dk just go as deep as Crypt Fever works pretty well. |
| 13:25.36 | Skellum | Yea, actualy crypt is partially bugged atm |
| 13:25.48 | Skellum | Crypt unholy + Ebonplague Unholy = double Crypt bonus |
| 13:25.53 | Codayus | Effects stack, which probably shouldn't. :-/ |
| 13:26.58 | Skellum | I honestly cant think really of any spec where the spell you gain replaces the majority of your abilities |
| 13:27.06 | Skellum | Except CoH of course and thats getting a nerf |
| 13:27.11 | Pneumatus | they should redesign ebon plague really, so it can stack per DK to keep disease based strike damage high |
| 13:27.23 | Skellum | Damn right they should, as well as Shadow Embrace. |
| 13:27.50 | Skellum | Err, not stack...I ment just be applicable per DK. |
| 13:27.56 | Skellum | I would think stacking could get to crazy land |
| 13:28.11 | Codayus | Make it so each DK gets the benefit of his ebon plauge only? Yeah, needed, yeah, it's planned. |
| 13:28.14 | Pneumatus | yeh, multiple applications but not the raid damage increase stacked |
| 13:28.19 | Skellum | yea yea |
| 13:28.26 | Codayus | Making it so each DK gets the benefit of EVERY ebon plague would be nuts, and isn't happening any time soon I think. :-p |
| 13:28.32 | Skellum | hehehe |
| 13:28.40 | digmouse | Codayus: so the bug is, the rogue with HAT still gets combo points from others even while in the cooldown? |
| 13:28.45 | Pneumatus | that would make deep unholy op as hell :P |
| 13:28.51 | Repo | 10xperl: 03Zeksie * r255 XPerl.lua: XPerl: Optimized buff refresh. |
| 13:29.03 | Skellum | I want to see 2h be the dominant spec for DKs |
| 13:29.06 | Codayus | dig NO. NOTHING TO DO WITH COOLDOWN. :-( The bug is that you do not get ONE combo point, you get one combo point PER ROGUE WITH HAT IN THE PARTY. |
| 13:29.17 | Skellum | Something about them DW just makes me angry |
| 13:29.33 | Pneumatus | yeh, every second you get 1 combo point per HAT rogue, not just 1 combo |
| 13:29.40 | digmouse | ah I understand |
| 13:30.19 | Codayus | So one HAT rogue/4 hunters = working as intended. Four HAT rogues/1 hunter = ZOMG 9k dps spamming finishers only, which is teribly boring, not to mention broken, and screwing up balance issues for the entire class. :-/ |
| 13:30.37 | digmouse | the cooldown works but you get 4 combo points from other rogues with HAT? |
| 13:30.41 | Skellum | And until its fixed I doubt blizzard will fix rogue DPS |
| 13:30.53 | Skellum | As for some reason they cant just spec a rogue not hat and run numbers on that |
| 13:31.30 | Codayus | digmouse: Right. Rogue 1 crits, you get 4 combo points, cooldown kicks in so you can't get 4 more until 1s has passed. THe cooldown is (by design) per rogue, so 0.5s after Rogue A crits, Rogue B crits - you get another 4 combo points. |
| 13:32.15 | Skellum | Ie. Absurd numbers...which make me hate WWS and me trying to find tips on how to better DPS |
| 13:32.19 | Pneumatus | within 1 second, in a 25man raid, probably 30% of the raid members will have crit to keep HAT up anyway :P |
| 13:32.40 | Codayus | Pneumatus: It's party only, not raid wide, which is ANOTHER issue with the talent. Party only abilities suck... |
| 13:32.44 | Skellum | Oh wow, I think, a 5500 DPS lock! Oh...oh wait... Fight length, 30 seconds. 10 rogues. |
| 13:32.48 | Pneumatus | oh :< |
| 13:33.03 | Pneumatus | put the HAT rogues in with disc priests :> |
| 13:33.15 | Skellum | Put the hat rogues in with more hat rogues. |
| 13:33.38 | Skellum | Or how about you give them an actual set of talents and a 51 that isnt reliant on the party make up and isnt horribly broken |
| 13:33.54 | Skellum | You know, the change has to come pre-3.1 or at 3.1 |
| 13:34.11 | Codayus | Skellum: Well, to be fair, most of the good theorycrafting/min-maxing/munchkin rogues are all HAT now, so it does make testing trickier. Internal testing is never as robust as throwing the EJ forum community at something to see how to break it. |
| 13:34.14 | Pneumatus | well, our guild we only have 2 raiding rogues :o |
| 13:34.24 | Pneumatus | so HAT is never gonna be much good for them anyway |
| 13:34.31 | Codayus | ...I admit, I don't understand why fixing it seems such a low priority. |
| 13:34.38 | Skellum | Our rogues in my guild are all stoned. |
| 13:34.43 | Skellum | Coday, intro level content |
| 13:34.54 | Skellum | Stuff everyone knocked out in a under a week |
| 13:35.23 | Skellum | 3.1 represents a major push, a whole new raid with tons of achievements, and content that might actualy be a little difficult |
| 13:35.25 | Codayus | Yeah, I guess. But as you say, it does need to be fixed at least by 3.1, and if they did it before it'd let them sanity check rogue DPS FOR 3.1... |
| 13:35.49 | Skellum | What I see before 3.1, Warlock PvP fixes |
| 13:35.51 | Codayus | But meh, that's what PTRs are for. |
| 13:36.04 | Skellum | What I hope to see, Professions not being piles of worthless shit |
| 13:36.54 | Pneumatus | they weren't worthless for like the first 2 weeks of 3.0 |
| 13:37.06 | Codayus | *shrug* Some of them are still very strong. |
| 13:37.12 | Skellum | JC is strong |
| 13:37.20 | Pneumatus | and they wont be worthless again for the first couple of weeks of 3.1 when new ulduar patterns come out |
| 13:37.24 | Skellum | Thing is, the selective benifits of all profs are the same |
| 13:37.33 | Pneumatus | JC will always be strong, as will alchemy |
| 13:37.42 | Skellum | About...30 something +dmg? |
| 13:37.44 | Pneumatus | enchanting is generally not bad |
| 13:37.47 | Skellum | Each of them has this benifit. |
| 13:37.59 | Skellum | Tailoring has nothing, Engineering is well...engineering |
| 13:38.10 | Pneumatus | tailoring/lw/eng/bs tend to be pretty fail |
| 13:38.15 | Skellum | BS isnt too bad, again a gain of about 30+dmg |
| 13:38.17 | Pneumatus | apart from the odd consumable item |
| 13:38.17 | Codayus | Some of the cloak enchants aren't bad, it's just a limited selection. |
| 13:38.25 | Skellum | LW has the same +dmg bonus too due to the wrist things |
| 13:38.26 | Pneumatus | spellthread etc |
| 13:38.28 | Codayus | BS is *excellent*, so I dunno what crack your on. |
| 13:38.39 | Codayus | :-) |
| 13:38.44 | Skellum | Coday, the Lightweave enchant is less DPS gain then the 23+haste enchant |
| 13:38.55 | Pneumatus | Codayus: what makes it excellent that anyone else can't get? |
| 13:39.05 | Skellum | The darkglow enchant is worst then the +spir cape one |
| 13:39.41 | Skellum | You really gotta look at the Crafter Specific benifits. Not just how much gold you can make, my alt alchy makes a good ammount of gold. |
| 13:39.41 | Codayus | Pneumatus: Flexibility. Extra gem slots let's you pick and choose your stats. Enchanting has um...3 ring enchants? If you don't like them, then too bad. |
| 13:40.42 | Codayus | Also, the value of BS is balanced around blue gems. Unless they release upgraded ring enchants/fur linings/whatever (which they may) epic gems will make BS the strongest by far. (And as it stands, it's as good as any, and more flexible than most.) |
| 13:41.22 | Megalon | blacksmithing is one of the best perks with 2 additional gemslots |
| 13:41.31 | Skellum | Imo. Professions should provide you at least 1 BiS item for that build. |
| 13:41.37 | Megalon | especialy when epic gems become available |
| 13:41.50 | Skellum | Not nessasarly a great slot for filling, maybe a belt or something. |
| 13:41.53 | Pneumatus | ofc BS + JC = win |
| 13:41.59 | Skellum | this is true |
| 13:42.18 | Skellum | Bleh, suns coming up |
| 13:42.20 | Skellum | Going to sleep |
| 13:42.56 | Megalon | and yea, jc has the additionel benefit of not having to care about metagem requirements at all |
| 13:43.39 | Codayus | Also, Darkglow is um... 17mp5 or so. I'd value mp5 over twice as highly as spirit, and the spirit enchant is 10 spirit. So um......yeah. |
| 13:45.38 | Pneumatus | alchemy technically has the same flexibility as BS tho |
| 13:45.47 | Pneumatus | as you can pick which elixirs/flasks to use |
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| 13:49.03 | Codayus | Yes, mixology is fairly nice. Frost Wyrm flask is 125 for 2h normally, or 162 for 4h with mixology. The duration boost is nice for gold/convenience (very few people raid for over 4h...), but the bonus is excellent too. |
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| 14:04.26 | Grum | its the best raidcost reducing profession evar :) |
| 14:13.46 | Repo | 10wintergraspfu: 03-Adron- 041.1-beta1 * r15 : 1.1 beta 1 |
| 14:13.49 | Repo | Ready to be localized for other languages than enUS |
| 14:13.51 | Repo | Supports getting time from the yells in Dalaran |
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| 14:25.54 | Kuja^ | Whitetooth: still there? |
| 14:26.12 | Whitetooth | yeah |
| 14:27.02 | Kuja^ | well, i checked everything (and unchecked ignore enchants) but no debug info is returned on that item, still |
| 14:27.28 | Kuja^ | all other items work fine, just that one returnes nothing |
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| 14:28.41 | Whitetooth | its returning fine for me |
| 14:28.54 | Whitetooth | try disabling all other addons? |
| 14:29.22 | Kuja^ | i'll try that |
| 14:30.36 | Whitetooth | or try clearing the cache |
| 14:32.56 | mitch0 | ckk: you around? |
| 14:33.45 | Xinhuan | so can anyone tell me why i can't make donate buttons in my paypal account? |
| 14:33.59 | mitch0 | xin: you have personal account? |
| 14:34.03 | Xinhuan | in the dropdown, all i get are 3 different types of buttons that i can make: Products, Services, and Recurring Subscription |
| 14:34.09 | Xinhuan | well its a premium account |
| 14:34.21 | mitch0 | heh, strange |
| 14:34.47 | Xinhuan | yes and paypal doesn't have any FAQ that can answer it |
| 14:34.53 | Xinhuan | and they haven't responded any emails |
| 14:35.16 | mitch0 | they don't like donations in your country? :) |
| 14:35.27 | Xinhuan | whats wrong with donations |
| 14:35.34 | Xinhuan | people can donate to me fine |
| 14:35.39 | Xinhuan | ppl have done that before |
| 14:35.47 | Xinhuan | the problem is why can't i make a donate button? |
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| 14:36.11 | mitch0 | are you using the link from wowace? (that points to paypal) |
| 14:36.26 | Xinhuan | no |
| 14:36.29 | Xinhuan | its not wowace related |
| 14:36.34 | mitch0 | well, try that |
| 14:36.47 | Xinhuan | the link is the exact same url i'm trying to create from |
| 14:36.48 | mitch0 | it just takes you to a "create button" page |
| 14:36.50 | mitch0 | works for me |
| 14:36.55 | Xinhuan | not for me |
| 14:36.55 | mitch0 | hm |
| 14:37.06 | mitch0 | browser problem? |
| 14:37.12 | Xinhuan | even if you hack the url to create type = donate, it just reverts to 3 options |
| 14:37.14 | Xinhuan | not 5 |
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| 14:37.17 | Xinhuan | in the dropdown |
| 14:39.09 | mitch0 | hrmp. how can I create the equiv. of <a href="xxx"><img src="zzz"></a> in the wiki style markup on wowace? |
| 14:39.18 | Xinhuan | doesn't work |
| 14:39.24 | Xinhuan | because you need a donate button ID |
| 14:39.31 | Xinhuan | specific to your paypal account |
| 14:39.49 | Xinhuan | every donate button is tied to a paypal account |
| 14:39.57 | Xinhuan | and every button has a ID |
| 14:40.17 | Whitetooth | mitch0: [https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=hotdogee%40gmail%2ecom&item_name=Addon%20development%20support%2c%20Whitetooth&no_shipping=1&no_note=1&tax=0¤cy_code=USD&lc=TW&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF&charset=UTF%2d8|<img src="https://www.paypal.com/en_US/i/btn/x-click-butcc-donate.gif">] |
| 14:40.49 | Xinhuan | as you can see, that URL is specific to whitetooth |
| 14:40.57 | Xinhuan | i can't cut and paste anyone's |
| 14:41.08 | mitch0 | white: thanks |
| 14:41.20 | Grum | there is no magic number |
| 14:41.25 | Grum | just an email adress |
| 14:41.33 | Xinhuan | hmm there's supposed to be one grum |
| 14:41.42 | Xinhuan | try creating one in yours grum |
| 14:41.53 | Grum | yeah mine had one |
| 14:42.09 | Grum | but that wasn't a BBcode link |
| 14:42.17 | Xinhuan | makes no difference |
| 14:42.21 | Grum | it does |
| 14:42.37 | Grum | mine was a form with lots of hidden values |
| 14:42.58 | Kuja^ | Whitetooth: clearing the cache worked, thanks :) |
| 14:43.09 | Whitetooth | nice |
| 14:43.38 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-1: 03Dessa * r5 LibStatLogic-1.1/LibStatLogic-1.1.lua: update deDE enchants |
| 14:43.40 | Xinhuan | <form action="https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr" method="post"><input type="hidden" name="cmd" value="_s-xclick" /><input type="hidden" name="hosted_button_id" value="2118281" /><input type="image" src="https://www.paypal.com/en_US/i/btn/btn_donate_LG.gif" border="0" name="submit" alt="" /> |
| 14:43.42 | Xinhuan | consider that one |
| 14:43.50 | Xinhuan | see the name="hosted_button_id" value="2118281" |
| 14:43.55 | Xinhuan | that's how it is used |
| 14:44.03 | Kuja^ | Whitetooth: should i update 1.0 too, still or do you think its pointless now? |
| 14:44.05 | Xinhuan | that ID is nev's btw |
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| 14:45.09 | Whitetooth | Kuja^: No need to, I'm not updating 1.0 anymore |
| 14:45.19 | Kuja^ | k |
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| 14:47.03 | mitch0 | stop committing stuff please, you keep killing the site :) |
| 14:49.21 | Kuja^ | huh? :) |
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| 14:53.02 | thul | KILL |
| 14:53.10 | thul | all the deathknights are okay |
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| 14:59.55 | onaforeignshore | yay... only 6 addons now not in Curse Client :D |
| 15:00.09 | onaforeignshore | (and 1 lib) |
| 15:00.44 | SunTsu | CC still won#t work on wine/FreeBSD |
| 15:02.36 | Repo | 10yatba: 03Adirelle 04v1.2-beta-1 * r10 : Tagging as v1.2-beta-1 |
| 15:03.05 | onaforeignshore | back to figuring out how to use msysgit lol |
| 15:05.02 | Xinhuan | dammit adirelle just killed wowace |
| 15:05.04 | Xinhuan | with that tag |
| 15:10.02 | dodga | So what happens if I equip the new epic Medallion of the Alliance and the heirloom version, and then use the epic version? They share cooldowns, but one is at 2 min, the other at 5 min |
| 15:10.45 | Grum | both will be on 2min CD i reckon |
| 15:10.55 | Grum | but if you use the 5; then both will prolly will be on 5 |
| 15:10.56 | SunTsu | dodga: My guess is that both have the CD of the one you use |
| 15:12.02 | dodga | hm since that make sense |
| 15:12.06 | dodga | it must be otherwise :> |
| 15:12.25 | dodga | I'll just try it |
| 15:12.34 | dodga | Need that heirloom thingie for my twinks anyway |
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| 15:28.49 | mitch0 | erm, what are these ___ and ___anders___ etc additional authors on my project? |
| 15:28.50 | ckknight | hey everybody |
| 15:28.53 | ckknight | how's it going? |
| 15:29.14 | mitch0 | ckk: carto's "description" doesn't render in opera |
| 15:29.20 | Grum | YOU BREAKIE WOWACE! |
| 15:29.23 | ckknight | I use opera |
| 15:29.28 | mitch0 | ckk: and some authors misteriously appeared on my project.... |
| 15:29.32 | ckknight | Grum: yea, we're gonna try to fix it |
| 15:29.34 | ckknight | mitch0: link |
| 15:29.44 | mitch0 | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/range-display.aspx |
| 15:29.49 | mitch0 | ^^ for the magic authors |
| 15:29.51 | Grum | ckknight: any good guesses why? |
| 15:29.58 | ckknight | Grum: yes. |
| 15:30.07 | Grum | good stuff :) |
| 15:30.08 | mitch0 | ckk: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/cartographer.aspx |
| 15:30.13 | mitch0 | ckk: ^^ for the carto thing |
| 15:30.15 | Grum | hope you get some more action from that database |
| 15:30.29 | ckknight | mitch0: I see no additional authors |
| 15:30.41 | mitch0 | hm |
| 15:30.52 | ckknight | mitch0: ick |
| 15:30.53 | ckknight | oh well |
| 15:30.59 | ckknight | I have bigger issues |
| 15:31.17 | mitch0 | hm. they went away :) |
| 15:31.22 | mitch0 | they were there a minute ago |
| 15:31.57 | mitch0 | ckk: I replaced the <form> stuff with a simple image link to solve the rendering issue |
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| 15:48.04 | ckknight | question |
| 15:48.10 | ckknight | how does one pronounce /b/? |
| 15:48.25 | ckknight | is it just 'b', or are the slashes pronounced somehow? |
| 15:49.05 | kenlyric | "asshole of the internet" |
| 15:49.10 | thul | haha |
| 15:49.11 | kenlyric | is how you pronounce it |
| 15:49.18 | si-m1 | fourchan |
| 15:49.21 | kenlyric | I've always just called it "b" |
| 15:49.30 | Pucmel | its random |
| 15:49.47 | Repo | 10yatba: 03Adirelle * r11 / (2 files in 1 directory): Removed pre-3.0 compatiblity code. |
| 15:49.50 | Repo | Changed filtering rule labels to shorter, more readable ones. |
| 15:49.53 | ckknight | si-m1: /b/ is merely one forum on 4chan |
| 15:50.27 | si-m1 | yeah i know, but it's the most famous one |
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| 15:50.53 | ANTRat | it does have more posts than all the other boards combined |
| 15:51.17 | ANTRat | or, atleast did a while ago |
| 15:51.26 | kontroll | 99% of the internet is made up of idiots and their pets. |
| 15:51.33 | kontroll | Don't be surprised /b/ is as big as it is. :P |
| 15:51.51 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:52.00 | ckknight | and every girl posting is a trap. |
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| 15:54.21 | Curses | /b/ is always good for a few laughs |
| 15:55.31 | thul | I'm so happy today :-D |
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| 16:01.17 | ckknight | thul: any particular reason why? |
| 16:06.24 | Industrial | /b/tards |
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| 16:07.16 | ckknight | quiet, newfag |
| 16:07.41 | ckknight | OVER 9000 |
| 16:07.52 | ckknight | protip: don't spend your vacation perusing /b/ |
| 16:08.02 | Kaelten | ya ckknight because you're so fucking pro |
| 16:08.10 | ckknight | I am SO pro |
| 16:08.55 | Xinhuan | so when is wowace going down |
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| 16:09.02 | quiescens | kaboom~! |
| 16:09.07 | Kaelten | within the hour I think |
| 16:09.10 | quiescens | go to sleep xinhuan |
| 16:09.30 | Xinhuan | can't |
| 16:09.39 | Xinhuan | i need wowace to come up so i can tag 3 addons |
| 16:09.52 | quiescens | sleep is good for you |
| 16:09.58 | Kaelten | ~comfort Xinhuan |
| 16:09.59 | purl | There, there, Xinhuan. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 16:11.38 | thul | ckknight: well, I got my exams back today, with laud :-P |
| 16:12.00 | ckknight | thul: fun stuff |
| 16:12.04 | thul | oyeah. |
| 16:12.28 | thul | is laud something other nations use? or is it just norway? :-P MORE LIKE SNORWAY! Come to kenya |
| 16:12.33 | thul | (i just have to say that when i say norway) |
| 16:14.27 | SunTsu | thul: isn't "summa cum laude" the normally term, world wide used? |
| 16:14.34 | SunTsu | s/ly// |
| 16:15.02 | thul | SunTsu: well, I guess it is. anyway, I got that, so I'm happy as a cat with a fiddle. |
| 16:15.05 | thul | or even more happy |
| 16:15.33 | SunTsu | thul: Yeah, that's obvious and well earned. Congratulations! |
| 16:16.20 | thul | now, just two more years, and I'm done :-P |
| 16:18.29 | Bruners | snorway ? |
| 16:18.59 | thul | Bruners: it is a meme-thing. |
| 16:19.37 | haste | weeble and stuff :D |
| 16:20.13 | haste | http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/kenya/ :D |
| 16:20.26 | thul | hehe, yeah |
| 16:20.30 | thul | I laugh :-P |
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| 16:35.47 | Repo | 10charge-meter: 03Starinnia * r19 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 16:35.49 | Repo | -remove polling method (see if using the boss emote event will work) |
| 16:35.52 | Repo | -another tweak to yell detection (for consistency) |
| 16:35.54 | Repo | -update base locale file |
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| 16:41.52 | Fisker- | Zeksie my friend |
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| 16:45.32 | ckknight | Fisker-: there are over 9000 penises, and they're all raping children. |
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| 16:45.56 | Belazor | Such a horrible ring of pedophiles, that 4chan |
| 16:46.07 | Bruners | 7chan is worse |
| 16:47.04 | ckknight | 12chan is pretty bad, too |
| 16:47.12 | Belazor | and 9000chan |
| 16:47.24 | Fisker- | old ckknight :( |
| 16:47.35 | Fisker- | 4 chan is worst at being worst Belazor |
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| 16:48.22 | Bruners | hah 12chan is even blocked here |
| 16:48.42 | ckknight | lol, Bruners |
| 16:48.45 | ckknight | probably the pedophilia |
| 16:48.54 | onaforeignshore | anybody know a nameplates addon other than aloft? |
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| 16:50.15 | Bruners | The Child Sexual Abuse Anti-Distribution Filter |
| 16:50.44 | Bruners | did not even know such thing existed |
| 16:51.12 | Zao | They should come up with something that can be abbreviated P.A.R.T.Y.V.A.N. instead. |
| 16:51.30 | ckknight | v& |
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| 16:57.05 | ckknight | hey Vangual |
| 16:57.07 | ckknight | how's life? |
| 16:57.21 | Vangual | good good |
| 16:57.25 | onaforeignshore | I'll take that silence as a no then? |
| 16:57.47 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: I just know aloft |
| 16:57.57 | ckknight | Vangual: saw you did some deDE translations |
| 16:57.59 | ckknight | :P |
| 16:58.25 | Vangual | preleminary ones, had some free moments at work |
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| 16:58.31 | ckknight | alright |
| 16:58.32 | ckknight | cool |
| 16:58.43 | ckknight | Vangual: any thoughts on the UI? |
| 16:58.53 | ckknight | (for the localization app, from a translator's perspective) |
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| 16:58.59 | Vangual | but since I don't actually play a german client i left quite a few ones out |
| 16:59.19 | ckknight | alright |
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| 16:59.22 | Vangual | yea there was some points of "hope it does that right" moments |
| 16:59.27 | ckknight | well, nothing up there is actually dependent on game data |
| 16:59.36 | ckknight | it's mostly options and such |
| 16:59.39 | ckknight | what the user sees |
| 17:01.12 | Vangual | when hopping to a page with existing translations it pre-fills the existing one into the editbox (good) but doesn't have the "leave current translation" radiobutton ticked (not so good), it doesn't seem to readd them with a newer timestamp tho (good) |
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| 17:01.42 | ckknight | right, if you don't change, it does nothing |
| 17:01.51 | ckknight | it's to make translating less of a chore |
| 17:01.57 | ckknight | so you don't have to click each radio button |
| 17:02.13 | Vangual | should maybe default to the dont-change radiobutton to illustrate that it won't change it, unless someone changes the editbox contents |
| 17:02.23 | ckknight | hmm |
| 17:02.26 | Vangual | ahh true, would need JS to autochange it |
| 17:02.27 | ckknight | I got an idea |
| 17:02.34 | ckknight | hey, nothing wrong with JS |
| 17:02.44 | ckknight | as long as it's not required. |
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| 17:03.24 | Vangual | requiring it for convenience isn't optmial tho, especially since it DOES behave correctly, albeit it doesn't seem it would |
| 17:03.27 | ckknight | the localization app uses javascript as-is for a few things |
| 17:03.31 | Vangual | oh |
| 17:03.51 | ckknight | like, all the fields are textareas by default, it turns them into single-line inputs with the expand button |
| 17:04.40 | ckknight | so Javascript isn't required, but it makes things nicer |
| 17:04.41 | ckknight | that's all |
| 17:05.24 | Vangual | navigation seemed a little bit tedious, not much but I'm not looking forward to locating my modules translation strings in between "1 2 .. 5 ... 99" |
| 17:05.58 | Bruners | onaforeignshore: there is one |
| 17:05.59 | ckknight | any thoughts on how that could be improved? |
| 17:06.11 | ckknight | I mean, you can search and such |
| 17:06.25 | Vangual | oh didn't notice the search |
| 17:06.47 | onaforeignshore | Bruners: do you know its name? |
| 17:06.53 | Bruners | onaforeignshore: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6852-NameplateModifier.html |
| 17:07.22 | ZealotOnAStick | Anyone here who might be able to point me to some examples of .net code somewhere on the web that have a prompted initial-setup on install sort of thing? |
| 17:07.25 | Bruners | no idea if its as good or better than aloft |
| 17:07.44 | Vangual | providing a linked-alphabet would probably be somewhat easy to implement and help a bit when you roughly know what you're looking for |
| 17:07.55 | ckknight | Vangual: I do that. |
| 17:08.13 | ckknight | wait |
| 17:08.15 | ckknight | no I don't |
| 17:08.15 | ckknight | wtf |
| 17:08.22 | ckknight | k, I'll add that, Vangual |
| 17:09.42 | Vangual | then maybe some more convenience views for authors that may help against vandalism or so: list by time modified |
| 17:10.08 | ckknight | hmm |
| 17:11.07 | Primer | ckknight: curse.com still not updating? |
| 17:11.14 | ckknight | no, just wait. |
| 17:11.19 | ckknight | we'll fix it |
| 17:11.24 | Primer | anxiously waits |
| 17:11.38 | ckknight | we have a team assembled: |
| 17:11.39 | ckknight | http://farm1.static.flickr.com/120/298997147_1f94c0bf2f.jpg |
| 17:11.49 | onaforeignshore | Bruners: it only changes font face and bar textures, but thanks anyway |
| 17:11.51 | Vangual | or how are authors notified when someone put some translations in? maybe a "n items changed since your last visit" or similar when it's technically easy to do |
| 17:11.54 | Primer | cute |
| 17:12.01 | Belazor | ckknight: my fave lolcat ^^ |
| 17:12.11 | ckknight | Vangual: they can check the activity log |
| 17:12.15 | ckknight | or be like me, and not care |
| 17:12.17 | Vangual | aha |
| 17:12.21 | Vangual | heh |
| 17:12.30 | ckknight | every time I commit, the zip gets the most recent translations. |
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| 17:13.01 | ckknight | I don't care about localization, really, it's for the non-English speakers' benefit. |
| 17:13.09 | ckknight | if they want to localize, it's their prerogative |
| 17:13.15 | ckknight | I'll just provide them the tools to do so |
| 17:13.29 | Vangual | you may want to contact 7destiny or so if you haven't already, he seems to put a lot of time into localizing |
| 17:13.49 | ckknight | okay |
| 17:13.50 | ckknight | will do |
| 17:14.17 | Vangual | never actually seen him outside the commit messages tho |
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| 17:15.58 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r116 modules (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 17:16.01 | Repo | Fixed some problems with the Shaman procs and added Windfury. |
| 17:16.03 | Repo | Fixed the Death Knight procs loading message. |
| 17:16.28 | digmouse | anyone suggest a good leveling mage build? |
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| 17:17.10 | ZealotOnAStick | Grr. Sorry to ask this again, I don't know if anyone responded the first time, client locked up. |
| 17:17.39 | ZealotOnAStick | Does anyone happen to know of a .net web app that has a sort of prompted initial set-up config that I could look at on the web somewhere? |
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| 17:22.20 | Primer | wrong channel? |
| 17:22.39 | Industrial | Primer: totally mixed channel of geeks, cant be wrong |
| 17:23.45 | Primer | Industrial: perhaps I should start asking for help with Linux device drivers here too |
| 17:24.00 | Industrial | do tell |
| 17:24.34 | ckknight | hey Industrial |
| 17:24.36 | ckknight | I fsck'd your mom |
| 17:24.38 | ckknight | burn! |
| 17:24.39 | ckknight | :P |
| 17:25.37 | Vangual | unzip && strip && touch && finger && mount && fsck && more && yes && umount && eject && sleep |
| 17:25.52 | ckknight | Vangual: I added searching and searching-by-letter |
| 17:25.56 | Industrial | ckknight: GEEK |
| 17:26.07 | ckknight | Industrial: you know you're no better. |
| 17:26.08 | ckknight | don't deny. |
| 17:26.27 | Industrial | I dont deny :) |
| 17:26.48 | Industrial | im a total code, anime and wow geek! |
| 17:27.01 | ZealotOnAStick | Primer: I'm looking for other resources as well, such as digging through the bloody channel list for something more specific to my query. |
| 17:27.07 | Vangual | ah, and you pushed the search code aswell |
| 17:27.22 | ZealotOnAStick | But People in here in the past have been helpful to folks on tons of random things, was worth a shot. |
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| 17:31.15 | onaforeignshore | transition from wowmatrix to curse client done... only 1 error message with stripping the libraries and using standalones (and 3 manual library re-addings for WIM) |
| 17:31.23 | oofl | how would I go about removing all spaces from a string? something like: string.gsub(message, "%s", "") |
| 17:34.06 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/downtime-today/ |
| 17:36.20 | ckknight | oofl: correct |
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| 17:36.54 | oofl | hmm, I've tried that and it doesn't seem to work though :/ |
| 17:37.15 | Repo | 10sell-o-matic: 03Silmano 04v1.1.06 * 7bca48a /: [new tag, +1 commits] |
| 17:37.17 | Repo | - Reordered GUI options. |
| 17:37.20 | Repo | - Minor code changes. |
| 17:37.38 | ckknight | lua> local message = "O hai thar, oofl"; return message:gsub("%s", "") |
| 17:37.38 | lua_bot | ckknight: Ohaithar,oofl, 3 |
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| 17:38.12 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/sharedmedia-mymedia/. SharedMedia - MyMedia. Elkano (Manager/Author). Approved by ckknight. |
| 17:40.37 | Repo | 10shamanwarning: 03Silmano 04v1.1.06 * 9377073 /: [new tag, +1 commits] |
| 17:40.39 | Repo | - Changed version letter to number. |
| 17:40.42 | Repo | - Added trinket spell warning. |
| 17:41.22 | oofl | ohhh, fixed it.. silly me ^.^ |
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| 17:44.38 | Groktar | i took two years off school and lost my catalog year, which made my AP calculus scores no longer count toward my major, so now i have to take math 75 (first semester calculus) |
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| 17:45.01 | Groktar | oh, and i have already passed math 76 |
| 17:45.05 | ckknight | Groktar: ick |
| 17:45.30 | ckknight | be like, bitch, I know my derivatives, I derive you! shiii.... |
| 17:45.34 | Groktar | anyway, when i tried to register for math 75 i got an error saying i had to take the "calculus readiness test," which i just finished |
| 17:45.39 | ckknight | â/âx, motherfucker! |
| 17:45.55 | Groktar | 40 multiple choice questions, no penalty for incorrect answers |
| 17:45.58 | Groktar | 14 is a pass |
| 17:46.03 | Groktar | like what's the point? |
| 17:46.08 | ckknight | hmm |
| 17:46.10 | ckknight | ~pil |
| 17:46.10 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 17:46.18 | ckknight | ^-- oofl |
| 17:46.22 | ckknight | read. |
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| 17:47.06 | Groktar | i'll probably get a bad grade in this course, too |
| 17:47.13 | Groktar | because i'll be too bored to show up |
| 17:47.33 | ckknight | you can't talk to any professors? |
| 17:47.49 | Groktar | i can challenge it |
| 17:47.59 | Groktar | once i'm actually in the class |
| 17:48.13 | Groktar | thing is, i took calc 6 or 7 years ago |
| 17:48.20 | Groktar | i'd probably have to study :( |
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| 17:51.01 | ckknight | â/âx sin(x) = ? |
| 17:51.36 | Groktar | x sin(x)? |
| 17:51.44 | Groktar | er, sin(x)/x? |
| 17:52.04 | ckknight | cos(x) |
| 17:53.43 | Groktar | huh? |
| 17:53.47 | ckknight | yea |
| 17:53.55 | ckknight | â/âx sin(x) = cos(x) |
| 17:54.10 | ckknight | the slope of sin(x) where x = 0 is 1 |
| 17:54.15 | ckknight | that's how I remember |
| 17:54.23 | Groktar | ah, k |
| 17:54.56 | ckknight | if you get into other stuff such as â/âx tan(x), it's different |
| 17:55.02 | ckknight | pretty sure that one is sec^2(x) |
| 17:55.24 | Groktar | i just hadn't seen the â/âx notation |
| 17:55.51 | ckknight | you must not be seeing my font correctly |
| 17:55.52 | Groktar | always used d/dx |
| 17:55.56 | ckknight | use an IRC client that supports UTF-8 |
| 17:56.02 | Groktar | i see it correctly |
| 17:56.15 | ckknight | â |
| 17:56.16 | Groktar | it just didn't like it when i pasted it back |
| 17:56.23 | ckknight | ah |
| 17:56.24 | ckknight | hmm |
| 17:56.25 | ckknight | okay |
| 17:57.15 | Groktar | lowercase delta, ya? |
| 17:57.28 | ckknight | yea |
| 17:57.32 | ckknight | I might be using it wrong |
| 17:57.37 | ckknight | I think I am |
| 17:57.42 | ckknight | â is for partial derivatives |
| 17:57.47 | ckknight | d is for full derivatives |
| 17:57.53 | Groktar | ic |
| 17:57.59 | ckknight | â is used in multi-variable calc |
| 17:58.15 | Groktar | oh, i never got that far |
| 17:58.27 | Groktar | that would be 3rd semester at my school |
| 17:58.35 | ckknight | I took it in high school |
| 17:58.36 | ckknight | :P |
| 17:58.45 | ckknight | Number Theory's fun, too |
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| 18:11.02 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r117 modules/trinketprocs.lua: Added requested trinket Dying Curse, this closes ticket #3. |
| 18:11.17 | Lysithea | If I zip down my ui could my friend just extract the pitbull folders+savedvars to his folders and it'll be done? |
| 18:11.32 | Curses | he would have to change the account and character names |
| 18:11.35 | Curses | on the folders |
| 18:11.36 | Stanzilla | he has to load your profiles |
| 18:11.40 | Curses | also realm names |
| 18:11.54 | Lysithea | yeah ofcourse |
| 18:12.06 | Curses | then yes |
| 18:14.37 | Lysithea | .. k found the problem |
| 18:14.52 | Lysithea | he put it in the other acc folder |
| 18:14.55 | Lysithea | (he got two accs) |
| 18:15.20 | Lysithea | "you sure you put it in the right folders?!" "yes... or.. .oops" |
| 18:18.51 | Curses | nice nice |
| 18:19.55 | Groktar | this guy on synirc is driving me nuts |
| 18:20.22 | Groktar | banning him is like playing whack a mole |
| 18:20.33 | Groktar | he'll just come in under a different nick/hostmask |
| 18:21.45 | AckisWork | bans groktar. |
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| 18:22.51 | AckisWork | @ticket arl 249 |
| 18:22.51 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/249 - Clean up "information overload" on tooltips. Reported by: Ackis. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 46 days ago. Component: Graphic Interface. Milestone: RC1. Status: Accepted. Priority: Medium. Assignee: Ackis. Votes: 0. Comments: 1 |
| 18:23.00 | AckisWork | Zhinjio: if you're around take a looksee at that ticket and my comment |
| 18:23.04 | Groktar | cowers before AckisWork |
| 18:31.38 | Stanzilla | minimap iconzz!! |
| 18:33.01 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r118 / (3 files in 1 directory): Changed the Cooldown Bars Texture drop down list. |
| 18:33.04 | Repo | Fixed up a problem with Procs that have a cooldown of 0 showing as N/A. |
| 18:33.06 | Repo | Cleaned the code a little. |
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| 18:43.54 | Repo | 10socialist: 03eblume 040.1-rc5 * r79 : (Message trimmed by 29 lines) |
| 18:43.57 | Repo | Changed in 0.1-rc5 |
| 18:43.59 | Repo | (re-tag of rc4, which failed to package) |
| 18:44.02 | Repo | NOTE: YOU WILL NEED TO RUN /socialist cleardb AFTER UPGRADING TO THIS VERSION. |
| 18:44.05 | Repo | The previous database structure has changed. Failing to do this will cause Lua errors |
| 18:44.42 | vhaarr | that doesn't make any sense, he should just clear the db automatically then |
| 18:44.49 | vhaarr | why aren't authors forced to be on irc, gah |
| 18:45.08 | nevcairiel | that guy was on irc occasionally |
| 18:45.10 | ZealotOnAStick | I wonder how many times you've asked that vhaarr. |
| 18:45.11 | nevcairiel | shrugs |
| 18:46.09 | haste | vhaarr: I always facepalm when authors ask people to do that |
| 18:46.17 | Pneumatus | worse than that, every single one of his tags say the same that you have to manually clear the database |
| 18:46.24 | Pneumatus | or at least the last few have |
| 18:46.27 | vhaarr | haste: ye that's what I just did :p |
| 18:47.10 | Pneumatus | the author should really try and convert, rather than making the user clear their whole db |
| 18:47.18 | ZealotOnAStick | The part I'm most amused with is "(Message trimmed by 29 lines)" |
| 18:47.24 | Pneumatus | seeing as it's release quality :o |
| 18:47.27 | AckisWork | vhaarr: write a "Common Issues" FAQ or something like that which deals with this issue and others that are common |
| 18:47.38 | vhaarr | I'd rather force people on irc |
| 18:48.00 | AckisWork | it'd be nice to have as a reference, I'd rather look shit up then come and ask |
| 18:48.05 | Groktar | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9TPMIfY5GU <- pretty sure every dog i've had was way too stupid to use that |
| 18:48.11 | AckisWork | u guis r scary! |
| 18:48.25 | nevcairiel | granted, if my addon is very early beta, i wouldnt start writing upgrade code =P |
| 18:48.30 | Groktar | http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/Abrams_Pics/M1A2-SEP-Firing-800x531.jpg <- imma chargin my lazer |
| 18:48.59 | vhaarr | I'm not talking about upgrade code, I'm talking about a simple flag in the DB, and if it's not set, or less than the latest version, you wipe it. |
| 18:49.04 | Pneumatus | nevcairiel: the above addon is rc though, and the zips are 'release' |
| 18:49.06 | vhaarr | like he's asking the users to do, for some reason |
| 18:49.18 | nevcairiel | he flagged them as release? well his fault then :P |
| 18:49.19 | vhaarr | of course, upgrade code would be better |
| 18:49.34 | nevcairiel | wiping a db is some kind of "upgrade" too, imho anyway |
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| 18:49.50 | nevcairiel | but i generally carry around a version flag anyway |
| 18:49.56 | nevcairiel | who knows what needs doing |
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| 18:55.17 | AckisWork | I've asked users to nuke their saved vars |
| 18:56.42 | nevcairiel | because you broke the layout? or because some rare bug sneaked in? |
| 18:57.04 | AckisWork | rare bug for a few, and because I rewrote the entire structure |
| 18:58.18 | NeoTron | MagicMarker has version-based upgrade code. rather simple but nice to have |
| 18:58.48 | AckisWork | Zhinjio was going to add some of that code to mine, but he said "you're using Ace3 properly so we don't have to worry about that" |
| 18:59.02 | Repo | 10o-uf_ammo: 03Ammo * r64 Ammo.lua: tweaks to the buff logic |
| 18:59.14 | nevcairiel | how does Ace3 solve that? =P |
| 18:59.31 | AckisWork | I have no idea, I just smiled and nodded |
| 18:59.54 | AckisWork | my job is to a) look pretty and b) dry-code |
| 19:00.03 | durcyn | one out of two ain't bad. |
| 19:00.08 | AckisWork | ouch |
| 19:00.47 | AckisWork | I don't know, I've never had an issue where a database change really causes bugs |
| 19:01.02 | AckisWork | I'm not sure if it's the coding assumptions I'm doing, or what |
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| 19:06.21 | Fisker- | hey AckisWork |
| 19:06.37 | AckisWork | I hate you Fisker- |
| 19:06.58 | Repo | 10grid-dynamic-zone-switch: 03Mokhtar * r35 / (3 files in 1 directory): GridDynamicZoneSwitch : |
| 19:07.01 | Repo | - Replacing BabbleZone-2.2 with 3.0 |
| 19:07.19 | Fisker- | why so hateful? |
| 19:07.25 | kagaro | AckisWork: needs to usea real text editor .. your line spacing makes me sad in your ruby code |
| 19:07.28 | AckisWork | you hate me, why can't I hate you? |
| 19:07.34 | Fisker- | i don't hate you |
| 19:07.35 | AckisWork | kagaro: I just tabbed |
| 19:07.39 | kagaro | lols |
| 19:08.04 | kagaro | why does itunes on windows hate me |
| 19:08.13 | kagaro | stupid com interface |
| 19:08.20 | Fisker- | itunes sucks |
| 19:08.21 | Fisker- | that's why |
| 19:08.21 | Bruners | itunes is hate |
| 19:08.32 | AckisWork | kagaro: I'm at the point where the dataminer doesn't help anymore, I need to solve the remaining issues manually |
| 19:08.33 | Curses | itunes is amazing in OS X |
| 19:08.48 | kagaro | ^^ Curses |
| 19:09.07 | kagaro | eas trying to convert an applescript to com to use on windows .. and boy is that painful |
| 19:09.54 | Curses | heh yea which is why the only time I touch windows is at work ;) |
| 19:10.01 | kagaro | but i cant run OSX in a vm so trying to port my library maintance program to windows |
| 19:10.22 | Curses | yea that sucks |
| 19:10.27 | kagaro | if only mediafly served movies :( |
| 19:11.31 | Gnarfoz | wtf is with BigWigs being broken on Sartharion :( |
| 19:11.44 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: how is it broken? |
| 19:11.58 | steev | i wish blizz would give us an option to store infos server side or not |
| 19:12.10 | AckisWork | Gnarfoz: bigwigs has been kinda bad with the release of the wrath stuff |
| 19:12.10 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: shows the first wave accurately, then nothing afterwards |
| 19:12.17 | durcyn | svn head was fine last night, Gnarfoz, what rev are you on? |
| 19:12.19 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: uh, right I'll use DBM |
| 19:12.23 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: latest release |
| 19:12.39 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: I'll try svn head next |
| 19:12.51 | AckisWork | Gnarfoz: just get transcriptor logs for them to help make it better |
| 19:12.51 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 19:13.00 | NeoTron | not sure |
| 19:13.02 | durcyn | looks liek r4867 had something to do with tsunami |
| 19:13.08 | durcyn | no idea who this 7destiny person is though |
| 19:13.08 | NeoTron | honestly we don't use or need the timers for the waves |
| 19:13.12 | NeoTron | they are pretty obvious |
| 19:13.20 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: to your information because you don't seem to be raiding again: it was already working 100% correctly before :D |
| 19:13.26 | Fisker- | AckisWork |
| 19:13.27 | NeoTron | 7destiny is a translator afaik |
| 19:13.29 | Fisker- | you wouldn't download a car |
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| 19:13.37 | NivFreak | yea, i think we're dumping bigwigs in favor of DBM now |
| 19:13.42 | AckisWork | Gnarfoz: I'm finding timers off for different things |
| 19:13.46 | NivFreak | after doing the reverse for TBC |
| 19:13.53 | Bruners | Fisker-: i would if it was possible |
| 19:14.01 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: I need them to announce them over TS, adjusted for all three of network latency, idiot player latency and reaction time ;) |
| 19:14.02 | Fisker- | no you wouldn't :( |
| 19:14.26 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: we just say "front" or "back" and people move accordingly |
| 19:14.41 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: you have nice people then ^^ |
| 19:14.42 | kagaro | Gnarfoz: thats just fail to notice the 1.) big yellow boss emote and 2.) the giant waves forming |
| 19:15.03 | Gnarfoz | kagaro: I'm raiding with idiots. |
| 19:15.10 | steev | Gnarfoz: get new raiders |
| 19:15.28 | Bruners | havent seen the need for any bossmods yet |
| 19:15.34 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: yes, we don't raid with idiots as you put it |
| 19:15.35 | kagaro | I dock 5 dkp for peopel who stand in void zones repeatdly and get hit by waves more than once |
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| 19:16.08 | steev | i get invited to raids all the time over some guild's guildies |
| 19:16.16 | NeoTron | we've gotten things like "undying" and "shocking" etc (10 man so far) |
| 19:16.21 | kagaro | and/or dont bring them back to 25 man raids |
| 19:16.24 | NeoTron | which requires people not to be fail |
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| 19:16.39 | Gnarfoz | we got undying "by accident" |
| 19:16.40 | NeoTron | 8-man sartharion both with mains and with an alt/non-raider group too |
| 19:16.40 | steev | the raid chat is hilarious - why are we taking someone outside the guild before xxx!? "because steev can follow directions" |
| 19:16.45 | kagaro | I need heroic 3 drake acheivment |
| 19:16.55 | Gnarfoz | but that's 10 core people, not this jumble of 25 retards |
| 19:16.58 | kagaro | 1 and 2 are soo easy mode |
| 19:17.28 | NeoTron | kagaro: 25-man perhaps. 2 drake 10 man is a huge step up in difficulty |
| 19:17.28 | Gnarfoz | we're trying sarth+3 atm btw |
| 19:17.35 | steev | shouldn't you be in game then? |
| 19:17.38 | steev | not out here chatting |
| 19:17.39 | NeoTron | still haven't done multi-drake or malygos in 25-man |
| 19:17.53 | kagaro | gona pump out 3 drake heroic tonight |
| 19:17.57 | NeoTron | since we started recruiting and building up for 25-man during the holidays |
| 19:18.06 | EthanCentaurai | I never get invited anywhere... I have a Lv 80 Mage, 71 Hunter, 65 Death Knight and 60 Shadow Priest and I need a blue moon just be asked to boost someone in Deadmines =/ |
| 19:18.10 | NeoTron | 19 man KT first kill was a bit challenging (missing our top5-dps at that) |
| 19:18.15 | Gnarfoz | steev: I'm leading the fucking guild, I've got time each wipe while waiting for them to unfuck themselves :p |
| 19:18.20 | steev | NeoTron: then you got the hardcores - the peoples who were like fuck family, im playin this game |
| 19:18.36 | steev | Gnarfoz: less time whipping them into shape is more time spent failing at leading |
| 19:18.50 | Gnarfoz | steev: not a hardcore raiding guild |
| 19:18.51 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 19:18.54 | NeoTron | steev: no we just play well. we raid 3 days per week for a total of 12 hours (scheduled, then ppl do offnight runs too) |
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| 19:19.06 | Curses | 3 days is too much :( |
| 19:19.07 | NeoTron | and most of us (or many at least) has families and kids, which is why we raid later |
| 19:19.16 | steev | NeoTron: was sarcasm about recruiting during the holidays |
| 19:19.23 | kagaro | we only raid 15 hours spread across 4 days |
| 19:19.36 | steev | we raid 3 hours 2 nights a week |
| 19:19.44 | steev | we are up to uh... 4 bosses down in 10 man naxx |
| 19:19.44 | kagaro | msot of the time done in 2 nights and nothing to do rest of week |
| 19:19.48 | NeoTron | steev: it was a decision just made a while ago to move from 10 to 25 man and obviously we started recruiting asap |
| 19:19.50 | steev | then again, we just started on saturday |
| 19:20.14 | steev | i love both sides of the coin |
| 19:20.21 | steev | the people who are like, lololol u has no life |
| 19:20.35 | steev | and the people who are like lolol im justifying some online gaming to another person whos playing it |
| 19:20.45 | Curses | With the way WoW is moving, I am gaining life |
| 19:20.52 | steev | Curses: srsly |
| 19:21.00 | steev | im bored as shit and we just started naxx |
| 19:21.09 | Curses | prepared to stay bored |
| 19:21.11 | kagaro | im waiting for uldar |
| 19:21.27 | steev | everyone is waiting for uldar |
| 19:21.27 | Curses | I think I have 3 drake normal left on my plate |
| 19:21.27 | kagaro | to see if it has something to challenge |
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| 19:21.27 | Curses | then I have won wow :) |
| 19:21.28 | steev | what the fuck happened to uldum damn it |
| 19:21.44 | Curses | tanaris is awful and dumb is what happened |
| 19:21.45 | steev | or the instance behind winterspring |
| 19:21.52 | AckisWork | uldar is going to suck too |
| 19:21.58 | Repo | 10grid-dynamic-zone-switch: 03Mokhtar * r36 / (2 files in 1 directory): GridDynamicZoneSwitch : |
| 19:22.00 | Repo | - Added heroic mode differentiation (to lad different layout / profile for normal / heroic mode) |
| 19:22.01 | Bruners | when is the next content patch up for release? |
| 19:22.03 | Repo | - Added WotLK instances to default |
| 19:22.07 | steev | Bruners: never |
| 19:22.09 | Curses | 2-3 months |
| 19:22.23 | steev | they need to release 3.0.8 tomorrow |
| 19:22.25 | steev | that would be nice |
| 19:22.32 | steev | i want my damn deflector |
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| 19:22.56 | Fisker- | They need to release 3.1 tomorrow |
| 19:22.58 | Fisker- | or i hate you |
| 19:23.19 | EthanCentaurai | dream on Failsker- |
| 19:23.32 | Fisker- | no u MethaneGas |
| 19:23.44 | kagaro | who could ever think this was a good idea: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/motoring/article-1103908/Wheel-good-The-microwave-lets-enjoy-hot-meals-move.html?ITO=1490 |
| 19:23.52 | kagaro | car microwaves should be banned |
| 19:24.01 | Curses | I would love one |
| 19:24.07 | steev | Fisker-: you hate me anyway |
| 19:24.20 | steev | what the fuck kind of url scheme is that |
| 19:24.22 | steev | wheel good? |
| 19:25.10 | EthanCentaurai | they'll ban those through health and safety soon, you could be distracted by a hot meal and cause a pile up |
| 19:25.18 | Repo | 10grid-dynamic-zone-switch: 03Mokhtar 04v1.1 * r37 : Tagging as v1.1 |
| 19:26.24 | ckknight | kagaro: I want one. |
| 19:26.41 | NeoTron | I don't think the idea is to use it while driving |
| 19:26.43 | kagaro | well i hate to see people on cellphones driving soo |
| 19:26.57 | Bruners | you could just fill your glovebox with bigmacs and reheat them |
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| 19:27.18 | steev | i don't mind seeing people on cell phones driving |
| 19:27.35 | steev | specially when it causes an accident |
| 19:27.39 | steev | and they get hurt really bad |
| 19:27.45 | steev | then i point and laugh at them |
| 19:28.03 | steev | and say HAHA bitch thats why you shouldn't use the damn phone while driving |
| 19:28.05 | NeoTron | as with drunk driving though, I'm sure most of the time someone else is the victim |
| 19:28.12 | kagaro | ^^ |
| 19:28.55 | NeoTron | this one dude was driving drunk, the wrong way on the freeway and hit a limo, instantly beheading a teenager in the car and seriously injuring the others, maybe also killing the driver |
| 19:29.08 | NeoTron | and ofc walking away w/o any real injuries himself |
| 19:29.56 | many | hrm. |
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| 19:46.18 | chiper | I'm surprised how often drunk drivers get on the freeway going the wrong way. |
| 19:46.31 | chiper | I mean, at least around here, the freeways aren't designed to make that easy |
| 19:47.09 | chiper | you have to go out of your way to get on going the wrong wa |
| 19:47.17 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron & whoever answered earlier: latest auto-zipped svn rev of bigwigs has the same issue for me |
| 19:47.33 | ckknight | site's down for maintenance |
| 19:48.50 | chiper | has anyone seen a grid status module for Kel'Thuzad's ice block? |
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| 19:49.11 | Pneumatus | just add the debuff manually |
| 19:49.15 | Curses | ^^ |
| 19:49.20 | chiper | hmm, ok |
| 19:49.36 | chiper | I'll have to look into that when i get home |
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| 19:50.00 | Curses | I did that in BC with most debuffs like that |
| 19:50.45 | chiper | well most fights where something like that happens, Bigwigs/DBM puts the skull on the character it's happening to, so it's easy to spot |
| 19:50.53 | chiper | since i have grid setup to show raid icons |
| 19:51.15 | chiper | but that isnt really practical for KT |
| 19:51.17 | Pneumatus | there used to be a grid module that added all the raid debuffs, but its not been updated for 3.0 |
| 19:51.27 | Pneumatus | but yeh you can add any named debuff manually anyway |
| 19:51.42 | chiper | what is that debuff called? |
| 19:51.57 | chiper | nm, I'll look it up |
| 19:52.14 | Curses | yea I don't know off the top of my head |
| 19:52.40 | Xinhuan | Frost Blast |
| 19:52.43 | chiper | Frost Blast, |
| 19:53.55 | chiper | the other issue I've been wondering about is if there's anything for the thaddius fight to make it more clear that your polarity has switched. |
| 19:54.25 | Pneumatus | DBM has a /rw type message for you specifically when your polarity has changed |
| 19:54.37 | Pneumatus | with sound + monster message |
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| 19:55.18 | chiper | k, any chance something like that could go into bigwigs? maybe tie it into flash&shake |
| 19:57.37 | vhaarr | bw should do it already |
| 19:57.50 | chiper | hasn't been. |
| 19:57.58 | chiper | unless it's a recent change |
| 19:58.02 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: 'add the debuff manually' was not really a reply to the lava waves timer not working, right? ^^ |
| 19:58.11 | NeoTron | BW is also supposed to flash and shake when you get focused by Malygos for that beam thing and that doesn't seem to work either |
| 19:58.23 | Pneumatus | Gnarfoz: no, was a response to showing the iceblock thing on Grid |
| 19:58.23 | chiper | Gnarfoz: no, he was talking to me |
| 19:58.28 | vhaarr | NeoTron: really, okay |
| 19:58.29 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 19:58.37 | Gnarfoz | yeah, got that one set manually too, heh |
| 19:58.53 | Pneumatus | ive only ever added 3 debuffs |
| 19:59.05 | chiper | now if only I could convince our healers to switch to grid/clique from healbot |
| 19:59.06 | NeoTron | vhaarr: changelogs says it's supposed to work but it doesn't. Get skulls but I never get a warning myself. I'm healing so not targeting malygos for the most part, making it rather tricky |
| 19:59.12 | Pneumatus | flame sear for twins, frost blast for KT and flame tsunami for saph |
| 19:59.15 | Pneumatus | *sarth |
| 19:59.25 | vhaarr | NeoTron: yeah I'll fix it |
| 19:59.27 | chiper | too many people dieing from that damn frost blast |
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| 20:04.43 | vhaarr | NeoTron: do you know exactly what malygos says when he targets you, and what kind of CHAT_MSG it is? |
| 20:05.10 | Pneumatus | vhaarr: ill have a full combat log of malygos in the next couple hours if you still need it :P |
| 20:05.24 | vhaarr | Pneumatus: a combatlog isn't enough |
| 20:05.36 | Pneumatus | the combat log will tell the message type wont it? |
| 20:05.44 | vhaarr | the message doesn't show in the combat log |
| 20:05.48 | vhaarr | it's a chat message |
| 20:05.51 | Pneumatus | will switch transcriptor on then |
| 20:06.01 | vhaarr | I'm not sure I updated transcriptor to log it, but I can do that |
| 20:06.19 | steev | is there any way to get just a textual result of /who ? |
| 20:06.21 | vhaarr | except |
| 20:06.23 | vhaarr | wowace.com is down |
| 20:06.25 | steev | as in, don't open the window |
| 20:06.25 | Pneumatus | yeh |
| 20:06.35 | ckknight | should be back up in a few minutes |
| 20:06.40 | vhaarr | alright |
| 20:07.00 | Curses | steev not if its over 3 names I am pretty sure |
| 20:07.23 | steev | Curses: yeah, thats what i am meaning - i dont' like when i do a /who and it kills my auction scans |
| 20:07.28 | Xinhuan | its a raid boss emote vhaarr |
| 20:07.49 | vhaarr | sure it's not a raid boss whisper? |
| 20:07.58 | Xinhuan | well one of them heh |
| 20:08.04 | vhaarr | well there you go :p |
| 20:08.04 | steev | you could look in dbm's file |
| 20:08.08 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 20:08.16 | Pneumatus | malygos doesn't whisper, im pretty sure of that |
| 20:08.20 | vhaarr | nah they probably do something even stupider than bigwigs |
| 20:08.25 | vhaarr | and believe me when I say that |
| 20:08.26 | Xinhuan | not really |
| 20:08.35 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: you replying to me? |
| 20:08.39 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 20:08.40 | Xinhuan | right now, DBM > bigwigs in terms of accuracy |
| 20:08.43 | steev | nih syndrom |
| 20:08.44 | steev | e |
| 20:08.45 | vhaarr | I dare you to check, then |
| 20:08.55 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: go open their malygos module and see if their code is more sane |
| 20:09.00 | vhaarr | what do you wager? |
| 20:09.12 | Xinhuan | its not about sane code right now, its about ACCURACY of timers and warnings |
| 20:09.21 | Xinhuan | and if dbm is mroe accurate, ppl's going to use it |
| 20:09.22 | vhaarr | ye that's NOT what I was talking about dude |
| 20:10.24 | vhaarr | anyway it's probably more accurate but I bet you their code is insane |
| 20:10.33 | steev | "CHAT_MSG_RAID_BOSS_EMOTE", |
| 20:10.37 | Xinhuan | malygos module in DBM is about 70 lines |
| 20:10.44 | vhaarr | the reason I believe it's probably more accurate is that I've been away for a long time |
| 20:10.47 | steev | 121 in 4.0.5-r603 |
| 20:10.59 | Xinhuan | also it listens to CHAT_MSG_RAID_BOSS_EMOTE |
| 20:11.02 | Xinhuan | for the emote |
| 20:11.16 | Pneumatus | and the text is "A Power Spark forms from a nearby rift!" |
| 20:11.17 | ckknight | we're back up, people |
| 20:11.17 | Kaelten | and we're back up |
| 20:11.18 | Pneumatus | in english |
| 20:11.23 | vhaarr | let me download and see, I don't believe you |
| 20:11.42 | Xinhuan | go ahead |
| 20:11.50 | steev | function mod:CHAT_MSG_RAID_BOSS_EMOTE(msg) |
| 20:11.50 | steev | if msg == L.EmoteSpark then |
| 20:11.51 | steev | self:SendSync("Spark") |
| 20:11.51 | steev | elseif msg == L.EmoteBreath then |
| 20:11.51 | steev | self:SendSync("Breath") |
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| 20:11.53 | steev | end |
| 20:11.55 | Xinhuan | in fact, i'll say its just as well structured as bigwigs in terms of code, with about the same overhead |
| 20:11.55 | steev | end |
| 20:12.11 | vhaarr | seems I was right |
| 20:12.16 | vhaarr | read the code again guys |
| 20:12.54 | steev | I am not arguing for or against any mod |
| 20:13.21 | steev | I am simply copying and pasting since you refused to look at the code for fear of getting tainted by bad code or some shit |
| 20:13.31 | vhaarr | that CHAT_MSG_RAID_BOSS_EMOTE handler does NOT handle phase 3 |
| 20:13.34 | vhaarr | in DBM |
| 20:13.36 | vhaarr | it's for p1+2 |
| 20:13.43 | vhaarr | look at SPELL_AURA_APPLIED |
| 20:13.44 | Pneumatus | p3 is a yell |
| 20:13.50 | vhaarr | and tell me that |args| is sane, Xinhuan |
| 20:13.59 | Xinhuan | args of? |
| 20:14.15 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: they put all the args to SPELL_AURA_APPLIED into a table |
| 20:14.20 | vhaarr | and read out of it |
| 20:14.24 | vhaarr | instead of passing the tuple |
| 20:14.40 | steev | I'm sure they are open to patches |
| 20:14.49 | vhaarr | I'm sure they are, so are we |
| 20:15.11 | vhaarr | I was arguing that their code was probably just as bad as ours, and I was right |
| 20:15.11 | steev | well since your knowledge is vastly superior |
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| 20:15.23 | steev | (not being sarcastic there) |
| 20:15.32 | steev | you would be bettar at patching it than me :) |
| 20:15.32 | NeoTron | vhaarr: slow response but I have no idea I'm afraid |
| 20:15.50 | vhaarr | NeoTron: Pneumatus will make a transcriptor log, so I'll fix it tonight then |
| 20:15.56 | AckisWork | their code could never be as bad as mine! |
| 20:16.17 | vhaarr | AckisWork: it used to be, but now you got them beat I think, this new version looks cleaner :P |
| 20:16.30 | AckisWork | lol |
| 20:16.35 | AckisWork | my code is clean! |
| 20:16.43 | AckisWork | I wash it all the time... and then DRY-CODE it ahahah |
| 20:17.16 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r90 TestAlpha.lua: blah! |
| 20:17.24 | Xinhuan | i'm not really into arguing about code cleanliness - as it is, accuracy of a boss encounter > code efficiencies |
| 20:17.34 | Xinhuan | a good portion of my guild's switched to dbm (i haven't yet) |
| 20:17.38 | vhaarr | so don't argue with me then, I was arguing the code |
| 20:17.48 | vhaarr | and you're free to help me out with bw |
| 20:18.00 | vhaarr | I didn't code this malygos thing here, I think 7destiny did |
| 20:18.04 | vhaarr | and he's not on IRC |
| 20:18.05 | NeoTron | unless transcriptor was fail before I am sure I recorded it before |
| 20:18.06 | vhaarr | so I can't train him either |
| 20:18.15 | AckisWork | I can dry-code BW? |
| 20:18.16 | Pneumatus | ill do a transcriptor of malygos when we go there anyway |
| 20:18.17 | vhaarr | NeoTron: it was fail, it didn't record emotes, I'm adding that now |
| 20:18.23 | Pneumatus | should be at him in the next hour or so |
| 20:18.28 | Xinhuan | lets see, last 50 commits, 2/3 are fixes by localizers |
| 20:18.33 | vhaarr | whisper emotes, I mean |
| 20:18.40 | Repo | 10test-bravo: 03ckknight 07master * v0.5-41-g2a9f319 TestBravo.lua: [+1 commit] Blah! |
| 20:18.57 | Xinhuan | by fixes, i mean functional fixes like spellIDs |
| 20:19.37 | NeoTron | ok |
| 20:19.44 | NeoTron | I do see channel starts |
| 20:20.28 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: I can't speak for ammo or funkeh, but before christmas my computer was acting up and rebooting every hour, then I got a new PC and have been on christmas vacation since then |
| 20:20.41 | vhaarr | but now it's time to fix things I guess |
| 20:20.49 | Xinhuan | yes, pick it up |
| 20:20.59 | Xinhuan | because as far as i am concerned, bigwigs has fallen into disrepair |
| 20:21.03 | NeoTron | and it does message things like this: "<1251.4> *** Surge of Power: Wyrmrest Skytalon ***", -- [41] |
| 20:21.09 | NeoTron | which is basically useless but you get the idea |
| 20:21.25 | Xinhuan | or into a mode where almost all the fixes are done by localizers |
| 20:22.41 | Repo | 10transcriptor: 03Rabbit * r95 Core.lua: Add CHAT_MSG_RAID_BOSS_WHISPER logging. |
| 20:22.46 | vhaarr | Pneumatus: get that one please |
| 20:23.13 | vhaarr | and poke me when you got a log if you could |
| 20:23.39 | *** join/#wowace cirish (n=cirish@71.36.172.153) |
| 20:23.49 | vhaarr | who was talking about thaddius? |
| 20:24.07 | Curses | someone early about a change in your polarity |
| 20:24.21 | vhaarr | ah right |
| 20:24.25 | Curses | making your screen shake or something |
| 20:24.36 | vhaarr | NeoTron, Pneumatus: any way you can get me a log of thaddius? |
| 20:24.41 | vhaarr | old transcriptor will work |
| 20:25.05 | NeoTron | vhaarr: I'll run it this week |
| 20:25.07 | NeoTron | don't have one |
| 20:25.23 | Xinhuan | you probably need a new 4H log |
| 20:25.23 | vhaarr | cool, it's no problem I'll fix that as well |
| 20:25.30 | vhaarr | alright |
| 20:25.32 | Xinhuan | the mark timers for melee and ranged are different and not in sync |
| 20:25.43 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: they are supposed to be |
| 20:25.44 | Pneumatus | i've cleared naxx this week but i can do one at some point if it doesnt get fixed |
| 20:25.48 | Xinhuan | they aren't |
| 20:25.59 | vhaarr | the 2 ranged mobs don't apply their marks at a fixed interval |
| 20:26.04 | NeoTron | I have done all content this week but we start again tomorrow |
| 20:26.21 | vhaarr | NeoTron: can you log all fights next clear? |
| 20:26.27 | vhaarr | I'll probably do it as well on wednesday, but I'm not sure yet |
| 20:26.31 | NeoTron | yep |
| 20:26.41 | Xinhuan | also can you disable the range module on KT phase 1 |
| 20:26.42 | EvilJohn- | I might be able to get you Naxx transciptors tonight, vhaar, if I can I'll let you know |
| 20:26.45 | vhaarr | if you're extra nice you could tell me what needs fixing |
| 20:26.48 | NeoTron | I hope to do 25-man malygos this week, we haven't done that yet |
| 20:26.51 | Pneumatus | you want a transcriptor of sartharion+2? |
| 20:26.54 | vhaarr | Pneumatus: ye |
| 20:27.02 | Pneumatus | am doing that right now so will run it |
| 20:27.04 | durcyn | vhaarr: there are a couple of posts on the forum with timer changes etc |
| 20:27.08 | Curses | sarth+3 is better :P |
| 20:27.19 | vhaarr | durcyn: well I haven't read the forum in 2 months, there's a lot to go through there |
| 20:27.40 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: let me see |
| 20:27.45 | Arrowmaster | the chinese have been making most of the updates to bigwigs recently i think |
| 20:27.50 | durcyn | vhaarr: in the bigwigs thread specifically,i mean |
| 20:27.56 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: start of an invasion? |
| 20:27.57 | Xinhuan | well i'll just like to say ammo and funky have done nothing completely since patch 2.4 |
| 20:28.07 | durcyn | vhaarr: most of the naxxramas stuff Just Works, thankfully |
| 20:28.13 | vhaarr | ah okay, I haven't paid that close attention to it |
| 20:28.15 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: funky has been kinda awol it seems |
| 20:28.35 | vhaarr | well I'm here now since I (finally) got a new computer, so you guys just push me |
| 20:28.38 | durcyn | vhaarr: kt engage timer is the only one that stands out in memory |
| 20:28.43 | Xinhuan | i'm not even sure if they still raid |
| 20:29.01 | Arrowmaster | i dont think funkeh even plays much anymore |
| 20:30.52 | *** join/#wowace waallen (n=wallen@ppp-66-156.33-151.iol.it) |
| 20:31.03 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4887 Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua: Hide the proximity display in phase 1 on KT. |
| 20:31.07 | steev | so... anyone here play with only 512mb of ram |
| 20:31.20 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: if you want to dive into bigwigs you can ask me anything |
| 20:31.36 | Xinhuan | i think it is time to rewrite it using ace3, vhaarr |
| 20:31.40 | vhaarr | but I'll probably ace3 it soon |
| 20:31.41 | vhaarr | right |
| 20:31.51 | Xinhuan | and redo everything from the ground up |
| 20:32.13 | Xinhuan | make it better, more efficient, and right now, that's fairly easy to do because there is only 1 naxx + sarth + malygos |
| 20:32.14 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: what happened to that bigwigs3 one of you was working on |
| 20:32.20 | Xinhuan | i.e very few instances to convert |
| 20:32.31 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: somebody showed me a deadmines module when they were trying to tease me |
| 20:32.32 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: wouldn't that require old modules to be converted too? |
| 20:32.35 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: it's still there but it didn't get far |
| 20:32.42 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: babywigs? |
| 20:32.42 | Xinhuan | yes, but they aren't on high priority AckisWork |
| 20:32.56 | vhaarr | AckisWork, Xinhuan: not as long as bw2 is left intact |
| 20:33.02 | Arrowmaster | AckisWork: no it was deadmines for bigwigs3, using ace3 |
| 20:33.04 | vhaarr | then old modules can be left to run in bw2 |
| 20:33.05 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: no doubt for sure, but the workload would still be there... 7destiny would probably get it done in an hour |
| 20:33.10 | Xinhuan | and if the new version is written in a way with "backwards compat", then most of the modules would only require minor changes |
| 20:34.02 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: as soon as you get something for design down give it to me and ill see what i can do |
| 20:34.03 | Curses | why make it backwards compat? |
| 20:34.16 | AckisWork | vhaarr: any chance r4887 will be tagged btw? that KT thing was super annoying |
| 20:34.27 | vhaarr | AckisWork: not by me, you're free to tag it |
| 20:34.42 | AckisWork | I keep my hand out of the cookie jar where important mods are concerned |
| 20:34.50 | AckisWork | I don't want to get yelled at anymore than I have to by Arrowmaster |
| 20:34.52 | Xinhuan | KT thing ackis? |
| 20:35.05 | Arrowmaster | AckisWork: pussy |
| 20:35.09 | AckisWork | lol |
| 20:35.20 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: 13:31Repobig-wigs: Rabbit * r4887 Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua: Hide the proximity display in phase 1 on KT. |
| 20:35.22 | vhaarr | Pneumatus: did you get the new transcriptor, don't think I got an "ok" from you on that one |
| 20:35.28 | Xinhuan | ah yeah |
| 20:35.35 | Xinhuan | i get a bit annoyed by it in p1 |
| 20:35.42 | Xinhuan | hence i asked a few min ago |
| 20:36.14 | Arrowmaster | who added that stupid sound to the proximity module and defaulted it to enabled? |
| 20:36.14 | AckisWork | since the demise of wau, I don't do alphas, I stick with beta/release tags for my own use |
| 20:36.40 | Curses | i just don't update til something breaks |
| 20:36.52 | ckknight | AckisWork: not even for me? :-[ |
| 20:37.02 | Pneumatus | vhaarr: will be using the latest for the sarth+maly logs |
| 20:37.03 | AckisWork | ckknight: you're special |
| 20:37.08 | vhaarr | Pneumatus: nice thanks |
| 20:38.32 | *** join/#wowace varaman (n=Miranda@62-47-39-248.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 20:38.48 | Xinhuan | vhaarr, if you're into rewriting bigwigs3, i can probably help with parts of it |
| 20:38.54 | vhaarr | yes I am |
| 20:39.11 | AckisWork | so I'm at my new job today and my cubicle is right by the ladies washroom |
| 20:39.24 | viisual|work | AckisWork, ... and? |
| 20:39.31 | AckisWork | pretty ladies walk by |
| 20:39.53 | viisual|work | :) |
| 20:39.55 | *** join/#wowace a^way`` (n=drag@mlr78-3-88-162-68-235.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:39.56 | Curses | I get to start wearing a tie tomorrow for my job......not excited :/ |
| 20:39.58 | Pneumatus | vhaarr: do i need to do anything other than start it at the start of an encounter and stop it at the end? |
| 20:39.58 | kenlyric | close enough to hear shitting? |
| 20:39.59 | ckknight | to go pee |
| 20:40.08 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 20:40.09 | Gnarfoz | so |
| 20:40.12 | vhaarr | Pneumatus: no, start it 2sec before you engage and then stop it when he's dead |
| 20:40.13 | AckisWork | lol kenlyric |
| 20:40.24 | kenlyric | serious question |
| 20:40.29 | kenlyric | you can be too close. |
| 20:40.50 | EvilJohn- | don't forget the smell |
| 20:40.58 | Gnarfoz | how would I best help fixing the Sartharion module's lava wave timer/announce? |
| 20:41.11 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: fix it how? |
| 20:41.21 | Pneumatus | vhaarr: /transcriptor clear on wipes i guess? :P |
| 20:41.22 | kenlyric | true, smell travels further than sound. |
| 20:41.39 | vhaarr | Pneumatus: not necessary, but a start+stop is nice |
| 20:41.49 | Pneumatus | ok |
| 20:41.56 | vhaarr | you can clear if you want |
| 20:42.07 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: what locale are you in? |
| 20:42.10 | Gnarfoz | hi thar, you weren't around earlier I guess :) On pull, it shows the cooldown, until the first wave - then that functionality just kind of dies. it used to work. :) |
| 20:42.20 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: enUS/GB |
| 20:42.54 | durcyn | odd, it was working fine for me last night |
| 20:43.07 | vhaarr | wtf |
| 20:43.11 | vhaarr | why is it called "Tsunami" |
| 20:43.22 | Xinhuan | no idea |
| 20:43.28 | vhaarr | that's a horrible word |
| 20:43.31 | durcyn | that's the name of the ability. |
| 20:43.32 | Xinhuan | but it is a tsunami-like effect |
| 20:43.33 | vhaarr | impossible to parse quickly |
| 20:43.44 | Xinhuan | u done sarth before? |
| 20:43.50 | vhaarr | it's the aftereffect of the tsunami you get in your face |
| 20:44.02 | vhaarr | yes I've done him |
| 20:44.12 | vhaarr | doesn't matter what it's actually called |
| 20:44.15 | Xinhuan | i prefer to call it "fire wall" |
| 20:44.24 | vhaarr | getting the word "Tsunami" in your face in a boss fight is not good |
| 20:44.26 | viisual|work | I like to use my eyes when dodging waves. |
| 20:44.26 | Xinhuan | although the real name is flame wave |
| 20:44.31 | vhaarr | because it's impossible to parse fast enough |
| 20:45.11 | Gnarfoz | I just yell "move fuckers" on voice, it could be called purple fruitcake for all I care :D |
| 20:45.11 | vhaarr | flame wave is good |
| 20:45.42 | Arrowmaster | flame wall |
| 20:45.44 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I used the latest stable release and the r4886.zip, it behaved identically in both :o |
| 20:45.44 | vhaarr | or just wave |
| 20:45.49 | durcyn | i'm at a loss as to why you even need another message for it anyway, seeing as the built-in boss emote is already highly visible |
| 20:45.56 | durcyn | timer, yes |
| 20:45.58 | Gnarfoz | that's the point |
| 20:46.11 | Arrowmaster | builtin boss emote is likely suppressed by bigwigs |
| 20:46.19 | Gnarfoz | it's not :( |
| 20:46.22 | vhaarr | it will be |
| 20:46.24 | vhaarr | soon |
| 20:46.29 | Xinhuan | durcyn, the premise is that bigwigs hides the default UI one, so that bigwigs can display its own - which is movable |
| 20:46.33 | Arrowmaster | then bossblock must be broken |
| 20:46.36 | Xinhuan | but at the moment, it obviously doesn't do that |
| 20:46.40 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: 100 points to you :> |
| 20:46.41 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: it's not broken |
| 20:46.41 | Xinhuan | so its just spam |
| 20:46.42 | durcyn | no, i get that. |
| 20:46.55 | mykx | to be honest vhaarr it could be big bold gibberish and people would still know to pay attention to something |
| 20:46.59 | durcyn | but why provide your own text? |
| 20:46.59 | vhaarr | look guys, I haven't blocked the new boss messages in WotLK because I don't think the BW boss modules are ready for that yet |
| 20:47.00 | mykx | the word doesn't matter just a warning |
| 20:47.08 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: it must have changed then since i last looked at how it worked, i thought it hide boss emotes for any bosses it had an active module for |
| 20:47.13 | vhaarr | durcyn: because the default text is SPAM and sucks! |
| 20:47.24 | Gnarfoz | mykx: there's 4 kinds of those in Sarth+3... and Raid warning frame can only contain 2 lines... |
| 20:47.26 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: yes but blizzard changed how it works in 3.0 |
| 20:47.32 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 20:47.33 | Xinhuan | only issue i have with it is its not movable ;p |
| 20:47.49 | vhaarr | god IRC sucks for having a conversation with more than one person |
| 20:48.23 | Gnarfoz | it's good for having shouting matches over very large distances, tho! |
| 20:48.29 | Xinhuan | but that's what IRC is really good at - having conversations with multiple people |
| 20:48.35 | Xinhuan | (lol) |
| 20:48.37 | *** join/#wowace Mech0z (i=AdiIRC@d40ae45d.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 20:49.12 | Gnarfoz | anyway, a timer is good for terribad guild-powered raids where I kind of have to play puppeteer and make sure everyone moves by more or less narrating the whole encounter on voice |
| 20:49.35 | *** join/#wowace iKON_ (n=ikon_@c-98-196-59-169.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 20:49.43 | Gnarfoz | announce everyhing 3 seconds early to account for network/server/idiot latency ^^ |
| 20:50.06 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: FUck that. Just start shouting "YOU FAIL!" over and over. |
| 20:50.48 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: I got FailBo(a)t for that |
| 20:51.01 | iKON_ | I heard some versions of quest helper have a keylogger in it. Is it even possible to run exploit code from lua files? |
| 20:51.09 | Arrowmaster | iKON_: no |
| 20:51.09 | Torhal | iKON_: No. |
| 20:51.21 | Pneumatus | questhelper is a keylogger, fact. |
| 20:51.28 | vhaarr | no no |
| 20:51.32 | vhaarr | questhelper is a piece of shit, fact. |
| 20:51.37 | vhaarr | it's not a keylogger, however |
| 20:51.46 | AckisWork | Pneumatus: so is hello world! |
| 20:52.00 | Pneumatus | so is test-alpha |
| 20:52.05 | Arrowmaster | iKON_: download questhelper from curse.com and it will never have a keylogger, anybody saying otherwise is full of shit |
| 20:52.05 | steev | ur mom is a keylogger lolololol |
| 20:52.06 | Torhal | AckisWork: But you'd rather write "Hello, WoWDB!" |
| 20:52.11 | iKON_ | so.. people are dl zip, and they somehow launch a exe to install the key logger, right |
| 20:52.14 | Gnarfoz | in soviet keylogger, russia helps you quest :O |
| 20:52.14 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: I can't see anything wrong with the lava wall warning, you'll have to give me a transcriptor log |
| 20:52.34 | vhaarr | iKON_: those people probably use internet explorer and Windows Live Messenger |
| 20:52.36 | steev | iKON_: they aren't downloading questhelper from a reputable site. |
| 20:52.39 | AckisWork | Torhal: grrr :P |
| 20:52.45 | vhaarr | iKON_: you should never listen to people who use that software |
| 20:52.45 | Pneumatus | where's best to upload transcriptor logs these days? |
| 20:52.46 | Torhal | AckisWork: :D |
| 20:52.47 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: ok, will do, but not earlier than sometime next reset :] |
| 20:52.56 | AckisWork | vhaarr: I use live messenger :P |
| 20:53.04 | Arrowmaster | iKON_: nobody that has claimed to have gotten a keylogger from questhelper has ever been able to prove how they got the keylogger from what ive seen |
| 20:53.05 | mykx | I like lightheaded myself but if i'm in the mood for mindlessly following an arrow carbonite quest works |
| 20:53.06 | vhaarr | AckisWork: I know, I can tell from reading your code |
| 20:53.10 | AckisWork | wow |
| 20:53.11 | AckisWork | ouch |
| 20:53.17 | AckisWork | svn del ackisrecipelist |
| 20:53.18 | AckisWork | oops |
| 20:53.19 | vhaarr | Pneumatus: pastey maybe? |
| 20:53.25 | AckisWork | @project arl |
| 20:53.26 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Elkano (Author), Zhinjio (Author), Jim-Bim (Author). Updated: 23 hours ago. Tickets: 7/309 |
| 20:53.39 | vhaarr | Pneumatus: dunno what the limit is there |
| 20:53.43 | Torhal | AckisWork is gonna blame Zhinjio for the code. |
| 20:54.03 | Curses | isn't there a pastey like part of wowace now? |
| 20:54.03 | AckisWork | nah the frame code is his but I butchered his formatting |
| 20:54.12 | viisual|work | paste* |
| 20:54.34 | Arrowmaster | www.wowace.com/paste |
| 20:54.44 | viisual|work | paste.wowace.com redirects as well |
| 20:54.47 | vhaarr | ckknight: is there a limit on that pastebin? |
| 20:54.49 | Pneumatus | pasting 7mb isnt gonna work i think |
| 20:54.50 | Torhal | paste.wowace.com works as well. |
| 20:54.57 | Pneumatus | i may have just crashed firefox :> |
| 20:55.02 | ckknight | I don't think so, vhaarr |
| 20:55.04 | vhaarr | Pneumatus: zip+mail then, rabbit.magtheridon@gmail.com |
| 20:55.09 | vhaarr | ckknight: cool okay |
| 20:55.13 | ckknight | try it out |
| 20:55.16 | ckknight | tell me if it fails |
| 20:55.36 | Arrowmaster | why does it have Makefile twice |
| 20:55.59 | Xinhuan | ackis are all the wrong npc locations fixed yet |
| 20:56.03 | Xinhuan | i.e wowdb data sucks |
| 20:56.23 | Arrowmaster | should just give ackis access to delete data from wowdb |
| 20:56.36 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: some are |
| 20:56.44 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: going through them one by one |
| 20:56.46 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: He'll probably rm -rf * |
| 20:56.48 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: already asked and they won't |
| 20:56.56 | Stanzilla | wtb new translation system for bigwigs :> |
| 20:57.00 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: it would probably help |
| 20:57.03 | Torhal | Heh |
| 20:57.13 | Arrowmaster | just rebuild from new data |
| 20:57.27 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: data would still be crap because of bugs in the profiler |
| 20:57.42 | Arrowmaster | wowhead is still full of crap data from beta |
| 20:58.13 | AckisWork | less crap than wowdb |
| 20:58.32 | Xinhuan | and user comments on wowhead are like the best thing in the world |
| 20:58.39 | Pneumatus | vhaarr: sarth+2drakes in the mail to you, will do malygos now |
| 20:58.41 | Arrowmaster | i consider all heroic droptables being wrong as perty crap |
| 20:58.47 | Pneumatus | you want achavon as well? |
| 20:58.53 | vhaarr | dunno, do I? |
| 20:58.57 | Pneumatus | dunno |
| 20:59.11 | vhaarr | why not, throw it in :p |
| 20:59.12 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 20:59.20 | Arrowmaster | some people still dont understand that fight |
| 20:59.26 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 20:59.30 | Xinhuan | amusing |
| 20:59.44 | Stanzilla | "fight" |
| 20:59.49 | Dashkal | Taunt when tank gets picked up, stay out of falling rocks... |
| 20:59.50 | Arrowmaster | and need a big 'THE TANK HAS BEEN PICKED UP AND IS BEING TOSSED AROUND LIKE A RAGDOLL' warning |
| 20:59.54 | Dashkal | Yeah, that's hard |
| 21:00.02 | Torhal | Some people don't understand Gamon in Orgrimmar. |
| 21:00.10 | Pneumatus | gamon is for beatings! |
| 21:00.11 | Arrowmaster | gamon is awesome |
| 21:00.17 | selckin | you need to stay in spikes tho |
| 21:00.19 | selckin | its so hard. |
| 21:00.20 | Arrowmaster | he chases deathknights around |
| 21:00.23 | Xinhuan | i want to make ppl aware that casting mirror images causes your 3 images to inherit 135% of your threat |
| 21:00.49 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: add a 135% bar in omen for mages? |
| 21:00.52 | Xinhuan | so if a mage casts mirror image above 81% tanks threat and the image is in melee range... it will pull aggro |
| 21:00.57 | Xinhuan | (at 110%) |
| 21:01.05 | Xinhuan | similarly if the mage casts it above 97% |
| 21:01.14 | Xinhuan | the image will also pull aggro (at 130%) |
| 21:01.32 | selckin | never happens in the real world :\ |
| 21:01.34 | Xinhuan | a 135% bar isn't useful |
| 21:01.56 | Arrowmaster | make it red and named 'Mirror Images' |
| 21:02.09 | Xinhuan | if you mean a bar that is 135% of your current threat, that one might be, but you can just "know not to cast above 97.2%" |
| 21:02.22 | Arrowmaster | yeah 135% of current |
| 21:02.31 | Dashkal | Call it the "noob image" bar |
| 21:02.45 | selckin | or "bad tank" |
| 21:03.06 | Xinhuan | i've had some cute fun doing VoA pugs |
| 21:03.11 | Xinhuan | i ride 120% tanks's threat |
| 21:03.22 | Xinhuan | then cast MI and my images pull aggro |
| 21:03.32 | nevcairiel | make sure to not be charged at 120% :P |
| 21:03.43 | Dashkal | I'm hoping my tanks can start upgrading soon. So obsessed with he def cap the threat isn't the best. I have to be careful with my hysteria or I'll wipe the raid when the recipient pulls |
| 21:04.22 | Curses | threat is really a joke now i m o |
| 21:04.39 | Xinhuan | well blizzard did well in making the current raids "introductory level" |
| 21:04.48 | syeren | *dribbler level |
| 21:04.49 | Xinhuan | maybe threat will become more relevant in ulduar |
| 21:04.56 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: they said that uldar won't be much more difficult :( |
| 21:05.04 | Xinhuan | that's not what i read ackis |
| 21:05.07 | Xinhuan | mmo-champion |
| 21:05.09 | nevcairiel | actually, they said it would be more difficult |
| 21:05.19 | viisual|work | I hope the new content isn't easier! |
| 21:05.32 | Curses | the scary thing to me is they are all about making it more accessable to the masses |
| 21:05.37 | nevcairiel | but they also said that intense threat-management wont be required anymore |
| 21:05.38 | AckisWork | "think it's safe to say that Ulduar will be a bit more difficult overall than Naxxramas, even without the hard modes." |
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| 21:05.44 | syeren | But they've also said they never want to make anything as 'hard' has Sunwell again. |
| 21:05.49 | syeren | Which makes all content a joke :p |
| 21:05.49 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: that's the same thing as what I said |
| 21:05.51 | Curses | which means judging by the majority of wow players its going to be really really easy |
| 21:06.12 | Curses | Sunwell was a blast |
| 21:06.16 | Xinhuan | less than 100 guilds worldwide killed KJ before the nerf |
| 21:06.23 | syeren | And. |
| 21:06.27 | syeren | What we get for not being idiots. |
| 21:06.47 | kenlyric | there's no profit in frustrating 99% of your customers to please 1% |
| 21:06.58 | Curses | I wasn't one of those guilds but killing m'uru pre-nerf felt like I accomplished something |
| 21:06.58 | vhaarr | are you sure? |
| 21:07.00 | Shefki | Xinhuan: The proper thing to look at is how many guilds killed M'uru before 3.0.2 |
| 21:07.04 | doom0r | depends on your market kenlyric |
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| 21:07.07 | doom0r | ;x |
| 21:07.11 | Shefki | KJ wasn't that hard to get once you had M'uru. |
| 21:07.14 | kenlyric | well, there's profit |
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| 21:07.21 | Xinhuan | KJ was difficult |
| 21:07.22 | kenlyric | but the SEC knocks on your door |
| 21:07.30 | Xinhuan | when the images weren't interruptable |
| 21:07.45 | kenlyric | I guess I did just describe a ponzie scheme. |
| 21:09.01 | syeren | When you look at the individual roles in Sunwell pre-nerf, there was nothing realistically that pushed the player. |
| 21:09.07 | syeren | Which makes it sad that so many people couldn't do it :/ |
| 21:09.39 | nevcairiel | if you define it like that, there never was and never will be anything like that |
| 21:09.48 | syeren | Vashj prenerf! |
| 21:09.49 | syeren | :> |
| 21:10.01 | Xinhuan | magtheridon prenerf |
| 21:10.02 | kenlyric | you basically just said "as long as you performed perfectly, it wasn't hard" |
| 21:10.04 | Xinhuan | now that was the shit |
| 21:10.21 | NeoTron | syeren: nothing in Sunwell pushed the player... in which world? |
| 21:10.28 | AckisWork | syeren: really? I was pushed learning felmyst (holy priest who had to heal and mass dispell), kj pushed people to move around properly... all the fights had you doing something otherwise the raid would wipe |
| 21:10.32 | syeren | Kalecgos = Do portals. |
| 21:10.34 | mykx | eh Xinhuan muru was much harder than kj imo |
| 21:10.40 | syeren | Brut = Do what you should be doing. |
| 21:10.56 | Curses | <insert boss here> = Do what you should be doing. |
| 21:10.57 | syeren | Felmyst = Up, Down, up, up, Down, Down, up, up, etc etc etc etc |
| 21:10.58 | Xinhuan | that's boss design gone wrong imo |
| 21:11.02 | Curses | Super generalization |
| 21:11.05 | syeren | Curses,Brut was pretty much. |
| 21:11.07 | syeren | DPS, heal. |
| 21:11.10 | syeren | Nothing other than. |
| 21:11.12 | Xinhuan | a final boss shouldn't be easier than the boss before it ;p |
| 21:11.12 | Shefki | syeren: No offense but healing in Sunwell was fairly difficult. Granted a lot of it was learning how to heal it. But getting the hang of burns wasn't exactly trivial. |
| 21:11.19 | NeoTron | syeren: yeah but it wasn't easy DPS and especially not easy healing |
| 21:11.28 | mykx | kj people could be playing bad and with luck you can kill him your first time, muru required everybody to play well |
| 21:11.35 | selckin | m'uru the destroyer of guilds was pure <3 |
| 21:11.48 | NeoTron | M'uru had no margin for error, and no margin for hybrids |
| 21:11.53 | syeren | Was easy, just required gear (brut). |
| 21:11.53 | mykx | yeah exactly |
| 21:11.59 | Curses | It was a blast to learn and kill that boss |
| 21:12.07 | AckisWork | NeoTron: we brought enhance shaman and feral druids and prot pallys and shadow priests to muru :P |
| 21:12.09 | syeren | M'uru was awesome because it punished people who shouldn't be doing what they were doing. Which all PVE should be like ;p |
| 21:12.10 | NeoTron | Saying that SWP is easy means you played in an excessively good guild with excellent players |
| 21:12.15 | NeoTron | which do exist mind you |
| 21:12.18 | Bibi` | you know what's difficult? |
| 21:12.21 | Bibi` | licking your elbow. |
| 21:12.24 | AckisWork | and I think we brought a ret pally too |
| 21:12.36 | Curses | I dare say impossible Bibi` |
| 21:12.37 | mykx | you make a good point Bibi`, do you always lick windows? |
| 21:12.42 | NeoTron | but my guild wasn't bad (ended up around 250th in the US I think) and SWP was hard for us (but we had people issues, especially healing/tanks) |
| 21:12.49 | mykx | also even |
| 21:12.50 | nevcairiel | Curses: some people can do it, but not alot |
| 21:12.51 | Bibi` | I lick whatever brings more visits. |
| 21:13.03 | Curses | according to Snapple no one can ;) |
| 21:13.05 | AckisWork | NeoTron: my guild is terrible now, we haven't even killed KT 25-man :P |
| 21:13.22 | syeren | Probably because the game isn't worth putting effort into anymore! |
| 21:13.23 | nevcairiel | thats indeed terrible |
| 21:13.23 | syeren | :p |
| 21:13.38 | Shefki | NeoTron: That's about where my guild finished. |
| 21:13.39 | nevcairiel | when was it ever worth it? :P |
| 21:13.47 | nevcairiel | i mean, you get like, nothing! |
| 21:13.58 | syeren | When 99% of people on yoru server couldn't do what you were doing :P |
| 21:14.04 | syeren | And the loot was actually cool. |
| 21:14.05 | syeren | :p |
| 21:14.08 | AckisWork | anyone who uses ARL, please comment on http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/249 if you feel like it :P |
| 21:14.11 | NeoTron | I think on average we spent a month per boss. Quite a bit was due to having to recruit healers and tanks and even DPS |
| 21:14.12 | nevcairiel | hey, loot. |
| 21:14.20 | NeoTron | but we spent over two months on M'uru and it basically killed the guild |
| 21:14.24 | nevcairiel | faps over that new epic |
| 21:14.40 | mykx | my server is pretty trash, the next best guild spent 4 months on felmyst |
| 21:14.40 | Shefki | We survived M'uru but it took a ton of time. |
| 21:14.49 | NeoTron | specifically it killed my will to lead and raid (as a raid leader and guild leader) |
| 21:14.51 | AckisWork | faps over nev fapping over that new epic. |
| 21:14.56 | Shefki | And we had to bring in DPS, tanking was never an issue for us. |
| 21:15.04 | syeren | Raiding at the moment for us is seeing how many Vanquisher tokens we can get in a week, every week ^.- |
| 21:15.28 | NeoTron | our MT quit, our main OT quit, our prot pally was questionable... recruited a warrior - really good one - while on M'uru |
| 21:15.35 | Curses | We started doing achievements for fun |
| 21:15.37 | NeoTron | he had T4 level gear... |
| 21:15.43 | nevcairiel | we all play out of fun, everyone on their level of preference. people should not judge others people performance, alot do it by choice. If you only play 2 days a week, you will never be as good |
| 21:16.02 | Shefki | Our MT and most of our healers did quit before wrath though. |
| 21:16.15 | NeoTron | I do agree that right now, raiding is rather easy but I hope and expect that to change |
| 21:16.19 | Shefki | Most everyone held on until we finished SW. |
| 21:16.25 | Shefki | After that they left. |
| 21:16.26 | AckisWork | I think from the kill shot of kalecgos to when we killed m'uru 15 people in our raid were "new" |
| 21:16.39 | Curses | We had 2-3 new people |
| 21:16.42 | NeoTron | as I said before we haven't cleared all 25-man eyt (no Malygos25 nor Sarth25 with drakes) but that's likely only because we started very late |
| 21:16.45 | doom0r | nevcairiel: disagree, don't confuse ability with experience |
| 21:16.50 | Mackatack | Anyone got an update on the syndication problems curse is having? |
| 21:17.04 | AckisWork | http://www.soullessguild.org/ (PS we're recruiting) ahahahaha |
| 21:17.10 | nevcairiel | I consider myself a pretty good druid (above average in my guild), however i would never want to to switch to an "extreme" guild that only plays for first kills |
| 21:17.16 | Stanzilla | I would never play with AckisWork |
| 21:17.19 | Curses | NeoTron: only hard thing left is 10 man 3 drake sarth :) |
| 21:17.21 | Stanzilla | he's evil |
| 21:17.23 | syeren | Ackis, didn't you used to be a in a decent guild ;p? |
| 21:17.27 | Shefki | We have all 25 mans stuff cleared except Sarth+3 which we should get soon. |
| 21:17.36 | NeoTron | we did Naxx clear this current reset |
| 21:17.40 | NeoTron | with 19 people |
| 21:17.41 | AckisWork | syeren: US 8th yes lol then I left them after we killed KJ |
| 21:17.48 | NeoTron | well we did Sapp/KT with 19 |
| 21:17.52 | AckisWork | Stanzilla: you'd be LUCKY to play with me |
| 21:17.56 | doom0r | the plus side of doing first kills is that you have content down to less time to clear earlier than everyone else |
| 21:18.04 | Stanzilla | AckisWork: orly? |
| 21:18.06 | syeren | Well I do Naxxramas in EU-Cyclone, and if you're in that BG, yeah. |
| 21:18.11 | AckisWork | Stanzilla: I'm just taht good dawg |
| 21:18.13 | syeren | Harder than any of your Ironmanning shit. |
| 21:18.24 | Stanzilla | AckisWork: you'd pwn me hard, right? |
| 21:18.25 | nevcairiel | doom0r: with expierience and dedication, most people can perform pretty well. Its just that people you consider "bad" usually are not in the right place, they just don't dedicate themself as much to playing |
| 21:18.27 | NeoTron | AckisWork: except when you get the ebst lewtz in the game you quit :P |
| 21:18.29 | syeren | Spending a whole instance with 5 second delay on casts is best ^_^ |
| 21:18.31 | AckisWork | Stanzilla: all night long baby |
| 21:18.59 | AckisWork | NeoTron: that's because the guild leader was a douche :P |
| 21:18.59 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: main thing I define as "bad" is being unable to survive encounter mechanics |
| 21:18.59 | Stanzilla | AckisWork: rawr |
| 21:18.59 | AckisWork | NeoTron: I didn't want to :P just couldn't stand the fgt anymore |
| 21:19.00 | Curses | reminds me of original bwl :) |
| 21:19.00 | NeoTron | i.e void zones, aoe, dancing etc |
| 21:19.05 | doom0r | not disagreeing with the lien of reasoning, just the wording ;x |
| 21:19.28 | NeoTron | if your DPS is bad, that is a different issue that _potentially_ is fixable with gear and experience |
| 21:19.47 | doom0r | ability and experience compliment, but are not mutually at the same point from the get go |
| 21:19.48 | Curses | gear fixes everything btw |
| 21:19.49 | NeoTron | but I find that people consistently failing to be in the right place aer much harder to fix (i.e raid awareness is often not soemthing you can learn) |
| 21:19.49 | nevcairiel | paying attention to the 3d world is somethign you can learn too |
| 21:19.51 | syeren | Or stacking Rogues / Hunters / Mages :p |
| 21:20.11 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: we have had maybe one or two cases where someone went from ultrafail to actually being able to live |
| 21:20.12 | doom0r | south korea? ;x |
| 21:20.15 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: did you see my pokes last night? |
| 21:20.21 | nevcairiel | probably not |
| 21:20.23 | nevcairiel | i sleep, too |
| 21:20.29 | Stanzilla | sleep is for the weak! |
| 21:20.33 | nevcairiel | (and i'm EU) |
| 21:20.40 | NeoTron | in some cases bad raid awareness is due to bad hardware, network connection or honeslty a bad UI |
| 21:20.52 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: what do you think of making the self-cast modifier work on your pet when you're on a vehicle (think malygos) |
| 21:20.58 | nevcairiel | yeah, some people really have an awful UI, blocking all their visiblity |
| 21:21.06 | doom0r | NeoTron: UI more than most people will ever know |
| 21:21.09 | syeren | Anyone here use AzCastBars by the way? |
| 21:21.15 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: i dunno how that would work, shrug |
| 21:21.15 | Shefki | Yay got my Frenzyheart Brew. |
| 21:21.19 | NeoTron | which is why we now usually ask for a UI screenshot from apps, especially healers |
| 21:21.20 | doom0r | many people think something looks good, and they have a reason to use it |
| 21:21.43 | syeren | Dude, as a healer. |
| 21:21.44 | Arrowmaster | NivFreak: it already does i thought |
| 21:21.49 | doom0r | but if you're psycho ocd like me, you look at things like, time to view something, strength of colors from an area, etc. |
| 21:21.51 | nevcairiel | no it doesnt |
| 21:21.55 | syeren | You need bars over 90% of your screen, otherwise you're not a baller. |
| 21:21.57 | NeoTron | we had this preist that could perform rather well if she did a role she had done 5-10 times before |
| 21:22.12 | Arrowmaster | i was able to heal myself on malygos without detargeting him |
| 21:22.14 | nevcairiel | we have this priest who heals really good |
| 21:22.18 | nevcairiel | .. unless he has to move |
| 21:22.21 | NeoTron | but when put in a new place ("heal tank A today, not B") she would be so bad it was hard to imagine how she could have performed at all |
| 21:22.39 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: moving and healing are hard |
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| 21:22.51 | nevcairiel | i'm a druid, i can run circles :) |
| 21:22.53 | Curses | that is the one thing I had to work on coming from a dps class to a healing class |
| 21:23.11 | Curses | was jsut to look less at grid and more at the world |
| 21:23.15 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: it does not work for me |
| 21:23.15 | doom0r | moving and healig is cake, i've played a paladin since my first day ;x |
| 21:23.35 | nevcairiel | we don't use the self-heal approach on malygos |
| 21:23.37 | nevcairiel | so i dunno :) |
| 21:23.45 | NivFreak | you actually hot low people up? |
| 21:23.48 | Arrowmaster | NivFreak: i have autoself cast enabled |
| 21:23.54 | NeoTron | we found that for 10-man it's perfect for us to use two dedicated healers |
| 21:23.57 | NeoTron | makes it a lot easier |
| 21:24.03 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: I'm suprised that works actually ;) |
| 21:24.05 | NeoTron | and yes I hot people up |
| 21:24.07 | Xinhuan | for 10-man, use 2 healers, for 25-man, use 3 healers |
| 21:24.08 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: AoE heal spam usually does enough |
| 21:24.19 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: that's what we're doing |
| 21:24.19 | Curses | yea Xinhuan |
| 21:24.25 | Arrowmaster | i only ever healed myself on malygos when i was super low |
| 21:24.31 | Curses | we might use 4 on 25 man |
| 21:24.33 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: 3 people, 5xrev, life burst |
| 21:24.36 | NivFreak | and stack |
| 21:24.39 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 21:24.40 | NeoTron | AoE spam is often enough but dedicated healers is safer and it's not like you got a lack of time if you're any decent |
| 21:24.55 | NeoTron | I think we'll probably use 4 for 25-man |
| 21:25.00 | nevcairiel | AoE spam gets you 3 dedicated healers =P |
| 21:25.01 | Xinhuan | those 3 ppl are 100% dedicated to aoe heal spamming NeoTron ;p |
| 21:25.06 | Pneumatus | we use like 6 people AoE spam healing |
| 21:25.08 | nevcairiel | i do switch my HoT target occasionally |
| 21:25.10 | nevcairiel | if someone is super low |
| 21:25.16 | nevcairiel | but not that often necessary |
| 21:25.22 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: I assume they use targeted healing too though? |
| 21:25.29 | NeoTron | or just aoe? |
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| 21:27.06 | Xinhuan | just aoe |
| 21:27.14 | NeoTron | heal self, aoe raid then? |
| 21:27.17 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 21:27.19 | NivFreak | NeoTron: we downed him last night, 4 does make a bigger buffer for healing though |
| 21:27.19 | Xinhuan | heal self, aoe raid |
| 21:27.25 | nevcairiel | aoe is good enough if people move fast enough to stack |
| 21:27.25 | Xinhuan | have 3 ppl do that dedicated |
| 21:27.42 | Xinhuan | and its enough to heal thru even an unshielded malygos target |
| 21:27.44 | nevcairiel | if they slack in moving, it might get close |
| 21:27.47 | Xinhuan | (yes its that strong) |
| 21:27.55 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 21:27.57 | NeoTron | ok |
| 21:28.07 | Xinhuan | but the aoe heal is 30 yard range |
| 21:28.10 | NeoTron | so speaking of malygos, anyone done 5-minute 10 man kill? |
| 21:28.11 | Xinhuan | so that's the limitation |
| 21:28.13 | nevcairiel | unshielded target is more luck then anything, though. can easily end up in a death =P |
| 21:28.17 | NivFreak | NeoTron: we would have been fine with 3, but we did 4 just because people were learning |
| 21:29.00 | NeoTron | I was thinking about binding the heal to clique |
| 21:29.07 | NeoTron | so I can just click the unit frames to hot them up |
| 21:29.22 | NivFreak | I have it done that way |
| 21:29.24 | NivFreak | but don't use it |
| 21:29.26 | Shefki | That's how I heal with Clique. |
| 21:29.34 | NivFreak | grid + macro/clique |
| 21:29.46 | AckisWork | I hasn't killed 10 man mally roflz |
| 21:29.49 | NivFreak | 50 grid boxes is fun =/ |
| 21:29.51 | ckknight | I need a 16x16 icon (gif or png) that represents "Copy". What should it be? |
| 21:30.03 | NeoTron | NivFreak: more fun than 50 xperl frames I bet :P |
| 21:30.05 | AckisWork | ckknight: boobies |
| 21:30.11 | NivFreak | NeoTron: probably |
| 21:30.21 | ckknight | this is for the translation dealy |
| 21:30.21 | NivFreak | although I heard it does it well |
| 21:30.26 | Shefki | I really dislike Grid. I use PitBull. |
| 21:30.34 | NivFreak | I <3 Grid |
| 21:30.36 | doom0r | two ass cheeks on a rectangle with a green light across part of it |
| 21:30.46 | NivFreak | I use pitbull, but now days it's only doing focus/pet frames |
| 21:30.49 | Pneumatus | vhaarr: Malygos transcriptor in the mail to you as well, both logs i've sent are 25man as well fwiw |
| 21:30.58 | pastamancer | ckknight: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Clear ? |
| 21:31.01 | vhaarr | ckknight: http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Library |
| 21:31.02 | Zeksie | so much hate |
| 21:31.22 | vhaarr | Pneumatus: thanks |
| 21:31.25 | doom0r | no crystal clear |
| 21:31.39 | doom0r | that icon set is awful, and has always been |
| 21:32.09 | Pneumatus | vhaarr: i got the whisper as well, so that's in there :) |
| 21:32.12 | doom0r | it's like someone's trying to blind you |
| 21:32.35 | vhaarr | Pneumatus: sweet |
| 21:33.00 | NeoTron | ckknight: so I tagged a new file for ButtonBin (r58) as release but it hasn't been syndicated to curse.com. any idea why? |
| 21:33.03 | ckknight | cool, vhaarr |
| 21:33.09 | vhaarr | ye tango ftw |
| 21:33.15 | ckknight | NeoTron: because we have had sync issues. We'll do a sync soon enough. |
| 21:33.18 | ckknight | a full sync* |
| 21:33.31 | NeoTron | ok |
| 21:33.57 | vhaarr | Pneumatus: your char is "Ismo"? |
| 21:34.04 | Pneumatus | yes |
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| 21:36.42 | Torhal | ckknight: Dewdrop's secure frame handling is icky enough to make me want to just write my own. Why? |
| 21:36.45 | Torhal | :D |
| 21:36.55 | ckknight | Torhal: wait until 3.0.8 |
| 21:37.01 | Torhal | It's using self.combat instead of InCombatLockdown() |
| 21:37.09 | ckknight | ...gnomes! |
| 21:37.11 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 21:37.12 | Torhal | Haha |
| 21:37.13 | Arrowmaster | thats not icky |
| 21:37.54 | Torhal | Ok - it makes no sense to me. Why look for PLAYER_REGEN_X to set a variable on a frame when InCombatLockdown() exists and does the same thing? |
| 21:38.13 | Xinhuan | Torhal, depends on how often InCombatLockdown() gets called |
| 21:38.15 | onaforeignshore | I also prefer pitbul, but I use macaroon instead of the blizzard action bars, so I can heal / fight using mouseover, target, targetoftarget, focus, self |
| 21:38.19 | Arrowmaster | because function calls are more expensive than table lookups |
| 21:38.25 | Torhal | Xinhuan: Ok, point taken. |
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| 21:38.57 | Arrowmaster | by comparasion i would rather use tablet than your icky libqtip |
| 21:39.00 | steev | woot new jon lajoie video |
| 21:39.30 | Torhal | Ok. |
| 21:39.40 | ckknight | ooh, yay: http://www.wowace.com/projects/test-alpha/localization/zhCN/ copy button :-) |
| 21:40.22 | ckknight | (before it just said Copy) |
| 21:43.56 | doom0r | My Bar' BG Color -> My Bar???? |
| 21:44.35 | doom0r | needs to mess with his fonts |
| 21:44.39 | doom0r | that displays fine in my editbox |
| 21:44.45 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Ok, since you're so fond of blasting my lib without giving reasons for the things you say: What's wrong with it? |
| 21:45.11 | Arrowmaster | your still rather inexperienced with lua as far as im concerned |
| 21:45.20 | AckisWork | ckknight: what do you have to do to enable localization? |
| 21:45.40 | ckknight | AckisWork: go to /setup-localization/ on your project |
| 21:45.44 | ckknight | we'll make proper links soon |
| 21:45.46 | onaforeignshore | weird... get a strange error when I log in to a limited addons account, but not when I log into one that has all addons loaded ... |
| 21:45.47 | Torhal | Mostly with the WoW API, but I will concede that. |
| 21:45.58 | ckknight | doom0r: Ch-Ch-Ch-Chinaman! |
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| 21:46.40 | AckisWork | oh God ckk when did you get an importer? |
| 21:46.45 | doom0r | i like how the english is included in the translation for just that |
| 21:46.52 | ckknight | AckisWork: when I wrote a lua parser. |
| 21:47.00 | ckknight | AckisWork: this was last week |
| 21:47.09 | ckknight | doom0r: as it should be, what else would know how to translate? |
| 21:47.23 | Arrowmaster | not just that, you need a good grasp of lua internals to make something you expect to be a major lib, performance and design things |
| 21:47.42 | doom0r | huh? |
| 21:47.57 | ckknight | doom0r: the English is included |
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| 21:48.02 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 21:48.07 | ckknight | what are you referring to? |
| 21:48.15 | doom0r | there's english, then the "translated" is "english"chineese |
| 21:48.21 | doom0r | read the first one |
| 21:49.00 | pastamancer | ckknight: you've seen lunatic python, right? http://labix.org/lunatic-python |
| 21:49.25 | doom0r | what's that, a perl wrapper for python? |
| 21:49.50 | pastamancer | lua in python |
| 21:50.13 | doom0r | don't rationalize my bad humor! |
| 21:50.31 | pastamancer | haha |
| 21:53.21 | ckknight | yea, I have, pastamancer |
| 21:53.37 | ckknight | pastamancer: I didn't want to run anything, just interpret the raw data. |
| 21:53.40 | vhaarr | how many people does malygos target with surge in normal mode, 1? |
| 21:53.49 | onaforeignshore | modules worked before I switched to Curse Client and local libraries... now it doesn't ... goes my coding isn't that good after all :( |
| 21:53.52 | ckknight | pastamancer: I've written parsers before, so it's no big deal |
| 21:53.56 | waallen | I think it was three, vhaarr |
| 21:54.01 | Pneumatus | vhaarr: just sent you an Archavon 25-man seeing as ive got transcriptor running :P |
| 21:54.03 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: make sure to get all your libs. |
| 21:54.03 | Shefki | Yeah I'd say 3. |
| 21:54.12 | vhaarr | in NORMAL mode? |
| 21:54.14 | nevcairiel | 3 in a 10man raid? |
| 21:54.16 | vhaarr | I say you're nuts |
| 21:54.17 | vhaarr | it's 1 |
| 21:54.20 | Shefki | I've seen more than that get hit a couple times but I think it's a buggy encounter. |
| 21:54.27 | waallen | oh, normal mode, I skipped that |
| 21:54.31 | waallen | I guess it is 1 then, yes |
| 21:56.35 | onaforeignshore | all the libs with .toc files (and available on CC) are under \Addons and the ones that aren't available are under the Addons\xxx\Lib folder... what am I doing wrong? |
| 21:56.56 | doom0r | everyone with a ranged attack can burn in hell |
| 21:57.25 | ulic | even rogues with "Throw"? |
| 21:57.25 | doom0r | i just lost vyragosa to a warlock cause ret aura doesn't tag |
| 21:57.32 | doom0r | yes |
| 21:57.34 | doom0r | i'm a paladin |
| 21:57.50 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4888 Northrend/Malygos.lua: Fix surge, should flash and shake now. |
| 21:58.16 | Xinhuan | static charge kills more ppl at malygos |
| 21:58.20 | Xinhuan | than the surge imo |
| 21:58.38 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: in 10-man we definitely have more issue with surge |
| 21:59.02 | Skellum | Get a priest |
| 21:59.04 | ulic | but you have Avenger's Shield, that's range. |
| 21:59.08 | pastamancer | goddamn static charge |
| 21:59.17 | Skellum | Which is static charge btw? |
| 21:59.25 | Skellum | I dont see people die post P1 unless they do something stupid |
| 21:59.28 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1311 Locals (7 files in 1 directory): Update localizations |
| 21:59.45 | pastamancer | static charge is the hard-to-see lightning balls in P3 |
| 21:59.46 | Xinhuan | its a 30 yard ball of lightning |
| 21:59.51 | Xinhuan | that malygos throws out |
| 22:00.13 | Xinhuan | everyone in that 30 yard ball takes rougly 1/3 hp damage of a red drake per tick |
| 22:00.18 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4889 Northrend/Malygos.lua: Don't throttle the surge sync. |
| 22:00.35 | Xinhuan | so if you don't move out of it in like 3 seconds, you're dead |
| 22:01.03 | Skellum | Oh that... |
| 22:01.08 | Skellum | Our GL just tells us, Move. |
| 22:01.18 | Skellum | Or in the 10 man, we go, Move. |
| 22:01.26 | Skellum | Depending on which of us wants to call the moves |
| 22:01.43 | Pneumatus | we all just rotate right constantly |
| 22:01.46 | Pneumatus | in a big dragonball |
| 22:02.30 | Skellum | heh |
| 22:02.39 | Skellum | The big gay pile is an amazing raid stratigie |
| 22:02.54 | Skellum | Also found having 2 people or more in a 25 designated as healers is great |
| 22:03.12 | doom0r | well, at least i got reins of the white polar bear on my second day doing it |
| 22:03.55 | steev | i <3 big gay piles |
| 22:06.31 | doom0r | http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2692/wowscrnshot010509160536ro8.jpg that is hilarious |
| 22:08.51 | Pneumatus | fixed in 3.0.7 :< |
| 22:08.54 | Pneumatus | *8 |
| 22:12.26 | doom0r | screw that, it's funny as is |
| 22:14.20 | doom0r | i should sanitize my changes to bankstack and upload them, eh |
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| 22:16.51 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1312 Locals/ARLLocals-zhTW.lua: |
| 22:16.54 | Repo | Commented out/removed some translations from zhTW. Check out: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/localization/ for the new localization application. |
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| 22:21.22 | AckisWork | http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/localization/enUS/ <-- 150 pages of translations |
| 22:22.16 | ckknight | that's just wrong, AckisWork |
| 22:22.27 | AckisWork | nein! |
| 22:22.29 | doom0r | just be glad it's not bugged and generating 1 per commit |
| 22:22.36 | doom0r | it'd be OVER 9000! |
| 22:22.41 | onaforeignshore | argh.... I can't get msysgit and git.wowace.com to play nicely over ssh :( |
| 22:23.02 | doom0r | put some pants on |
| 22:23.07 | doom0r | they're just frightened |
| 22:23.13 | AckisWork | doom0r: I imported the translations I have and... it has 203 pages of activity log |
| 22:23.18 | onaforeignshore | I'm so frustrated that I'm just going to cancel the addon at this point :( |
| 22:25.05 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: just use svn if you're having so many issues |
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| 22:26.46 | onaforeignshore | Permission denied (publickey). |
| 22:27.12 | thul | i fucked up my little finger today, juhuu! |
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| 22:27.34 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r118 / (10 files in 5 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 22:27.36 | Repo | - LibGlory-3.0 |
| 22:27.38 | Repo | - Added function FindCompanion to LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.1 |
| 22:27.41 | Repo | - Added Circle of Blood to Outland extra zones |
| 22:27.44 | Arrowmaster | ....... |
| 22:27.49 | Arrowmaster | LibGlory-3.0 now? |
| 22:27.53 | Arrowmaster | god damn him |
| 22:27.54 | Megalon | AckisWork: btw, is there a reasin why ARL is listed in the Death Knight category for addons? :O |
| 22:28.07 | doom0r | http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/ssh-public-keys/ |
| 22:28.24 | doom0r | Megalon: it's that good |
| 22:28.43 | steev | Megalon: Runeforging |
| 22:28.51 | Repo | 10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander * r145 / (6 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 22:28.53 | Repo | MiniPet: |
| 22:28.56 | Repo | - Initial checkin of 4.6 |
| 22:28.58 | Repo | - Added ability to summon the random minipet from the command line or clicking on LDB frame IF that pet is a learned pet |
| 22:29.01 | Repo | - list and refresh command options moved back to the top level (ie /mp list and /mp refresh) |
| 22:29.05 | AckisWork | Megalon: it has runeforging |
| 22:30.32 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r129 / (3 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 3 lines) |
| 22:30.33 | Repo | Coconuts: |
| 22:30.35 | Repo | MiniPet: |
| 22:30.39 | Repo | - Initial checkin of 2.6 |
| 22:30.40 | Repo | - Added ability to summon the random mounts by type from the command line or clicking on LDB frame IF that mount is a learned mount |
| 22:31.16 | Megalon | oh yea... runeforging.. that makes... sense :c |
| 22:31.19 | Repo | 10calendar_broker: 03LordFarlander * r5 CoreCalendar.lua: Calendar_Broker: |
| 22:31.21 | Repo | - Fix for minutes displaying seconds instead |
| 22:31.24 | Repo | - Fix for reset events not showing if not heroic |
| 22:31.56 | nevcairiel | AckisWork: considering you get all runeforge enchants from your class trainer, i call "pointless" :P |
| 22:31.57 | Repo | 10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r42 / (2 files in 2 directories): Broker_RecZone: |
| 22:32.00 | Repo | - Ulduar Raid changed to plain Ulduar |
| 22:32.13 | Arrowmaster | .... |
| 22:32.15 | Arrowmaster | i hate him |
| 22:32.17 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: totally :) but completionism |
| 22:32.21 | Arrowmaster | ulduar isnt even in the game |
| 22:32.47 | steev | the zone is |
| 22:32.49 | onaforeignshore | found the problem... the public key on wowace doesn't match mine, even though I have changed it 3 times on the wowace site |
| 22:32.50 | sb | ~wowstatus |
| 22:32.55 | sb | ~status |
| 22:32.55 | purl | Since Wed Dec 31 15:52:43 2008, there have been 69 modifications, 346 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 283 commands. I have been awake for 5d 6h 40m 12s this session, and currently reference 115744 factoids. I'm using about 20640 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 10322.87/471.42 child 0/0.01 |
| 22:33.01 | nevcairiel | ~wowalert |
| 22:33.02 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 22:33.02 | Arrowmaster | its not accessable |
| 22:33.03 | sb | ah |
| 22:33.05 | sb | ty :p |
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| 22:33.25 | Megalon | well, then you should consider adding the categories like: Tank, Damage Dealer, because there are different runes for those etc :P |
| 22:34.34 | AckisWork | Megalon: good point |
| 22:34.36 | AckisWork | :P |
| 22:34.41 | Megalon | btw |
| 22:34.51 | Megalon | why isn't ARL listed in any profession category then? |
| 22:35.01 | AckisWork | pre-3.x ARL had rogue/hunter as categories because of the pet abilities, and rogue poison |
| 22:35.05 | AckisWork | you can only have 5 categories |
| 22:35.14 | Megalon | ah ok |
| 22:35.31 | Megalon | ckk did that probably 'cause of ARL :P |
| 22:35.38 | AckisWork | lol nah |
| 22:35.42 | AckisWork | there's worse than me :P |
| 22:35.49 | nevcairiel | lies |
| 22:35.58 | ckknight | you don't get more than 5 categories. |
| 22:35.58 | Megalon | worse then every category there is and ever be? :P |
| 22:36.00 | ckknight | choose the best 5 |
| 22:36.12 | ckknight | we don't need people choosing every single category |
| 22:36.21 | Xinhuan | i'll make a "XinUI" mod that fits in every category |
| 22:36.22 | ckknight | trying to game the system |
| 22:36.29 | Xinhuan | by combining 200 addons together ;p |
| 22:36.44 | Megalon | XinUI-mega-uber-comilation-of-everything |
| 22:36.57 | Megalon | s/comi/compi/ |
| 22:37.07 | Megalon | now with proper spelling |
| 22:37.13 | Wraith|Work | lol |
| 22:37.25 | steev | you forgot super-street-fighter-edition in there |
| 22:38.15 | Megalon | turbo-hd-remix |
| 22:38.18 | Megalon | of course |
| 22:38.45 | Megalon | perhaps even start at II, because a 2 in the name makes everything better |
| 22:39.10 | steev | don't forget about the release notes having to diss 1 for sucking and not being worth releasing |
| 22:39.10 | Xinhuan | need to add --Ace3-- in the name too |
| 22:39.14 | steev | but 2 is awesome! |
| 22:39.23 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: ACE3 amiright? |
| 22:39.35 | steev | also, need to set it to be 800x600 |
| 22:39.46 | steev | guarantee no screen real estate available |
| 22:41.20 | ckknight | I code in ACE3 and LUA |
| 22:41.32 | krka | ckknight: Dude, it's not an acronym! ;-) |
| 22:41.36 | Wraith|Work | Aside from the behemoth is there a decent wow addon editor that can do some intelisense stuff? |
| 22:41.39 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 22:41.41 | ckknight | yuh-huh, krka! |
| 22:41.55 | renchap | CKKNIGHT ? |
| 22:42.04 | Repo | 10wintergraspfu: 03kunda * r16 / (6 files in 1 directory): FuBar_WintergraspFu: |
| 22:42.04 | ckknight | let it be known: |
| 22:42.06 | Repo | - localized two strings |
| 22:42.07 | ckknight | I did it for the lulz |
| 22:42.09 | Repo | - fixed .pkgmeta (AceAddon-2.0 needs AceOO-2.0) |
| 22:42.11 | Repo | - added deDE |
| 22:42.13 | onaforeignshore | ACE3 = Advanced Coding Edition? :p |
| 22:42.14 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03cremor * r4890 Naxxramas/Faerlina.lua: Faerlina: |
| 22:42.16 | Repo | - Fix nil error in rain of fire message. |
| 22:42.19 | Repo | - Fix wrong deDE starttrigger. |
| 22:42.23 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: ACE Coding Environment |
| 22:42.25 | ckknight | :P |
| 22:42.34 | ckknight | hates recursive acronyms |
| 22:42.39 | onaforeignshore | lol |
| 22:42.41 | ckknight | I think they're childish attempts at humor |
| 22:42.46 | viisual|work | ^ |
| 22:42.49 | Xinhuan | oh you mean like WAR? |
| 22:42.56 | Torhal | And here I thought Ace wasn't an acronym. |
| 22:42.57 | ckknight | Xinhuan: that's different |
| 22:42.59 | nevcairiel | WAR is not recursive |
| 22:43.01 | ckknight | Warhammer: Age of Reckoning |
| 22:43.04 | Wraith|Work | Xinhuan: how is that recursive? |
| 22:43.04 | nevcairiel | but ckknight, dont mock GNU |
| 22:43.08 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 22:43.09 | AckisWork | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/quest-helper/tickets/316-runing-smooth/ <-- super ticket |
| 22:43.10 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 22:43.11 | Xinhuan | :< |
| 22:43.12 | ckknight | nevcairiel: Fuck GNU |
| 22:43.22 | Torhal | Oh yeah? Well, fuck GNU too! |
| 22:43.33 | Torhal | Oh, you didn't say "you". |
| 22:43.36 | Arrowmaster | @ticket liblordfarlander-2-0 2 |
| 22:43.37 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/liblordfarlander-2-0/tickets/2 - Rename libraries. Reported by: Arrowmaster. Type: Task. Updated: 33 seconds ago. Status: New. Priority: Critical. Assignee: LordFarlander. Votes: 0. Comments: 0 |
| 22:43.53 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 22:43.59 | ckknight | Torhal: yea, it used to be. I didn't like it, though. |
| 22:44.04 | Arrowmaster | vote up |
| 22:44.06 | ckknight | Torhal: it is not an acyonym anymore |
| 22:44.10 | ckknight | goes to vote |
| 22:44.20 | Repo | 10calendar_broker: 03LordFarlander * r6 BrokerCalendar.lua: Calendar_Broker: |
| 22:44.22 | Repo | - As per Gabriel's tip, call GameTimeFrame_OnClick() instead of Calender_Toggle() directly. |
| 22:44.35 | nevcairiel | GNU isnt an acronym anymore? |
| 22:44.35 | AckisWork | wtf I think I use calendar broker... |
| 22:44.39 | renchap | votes |
| 22:44.39 | ckknight | nevcairiel: it is. |
| 22:44.45 | ckknight | nevcairiel: GNU's Not Unix |
| 22:44.46 | viisual|work | Gnu isn't unix |
| 22:44.53 | nevcairiel | thats what i though it was =P |
| 22:44.56 | Wraith|Work | Xinhuan: for example PHP = Personal Home Page, but now it is recursive to be PHP Hypertext Preprocessor which if you break it down is (Personal Home Page) Hypertext Preprocessor |
| 22:45.03 | ckknight | nevcairiel: Ace isn't an acronym anymore. |
| 22:45.13 | nevcairiel | Was it ever? |
| 22:45.16 | ckknight | yes |
| 22:45.20 | ckknight | ACE Coding Environment |
| 22:45.21 | renchap | ckknight: what about gravatars on curseforge ? |
| 22:45.27 | renchap | if curse avatar is not set |
| 22:45.28 | ckknight | renchap: I'm not against the idea. |
| 22:45.29 | viisual|work | PNG (not gif) |
| 22:45.32 | Aeyan | Really? Smack whoever did that one. |
| 22:45.32 | Arrowmaster | i am |
| 22:45.34 | ckknight | renchap: file a ticket. |
| 22:45.36 | Arrowmaster | gravatar is evil |
| 22:45.40 | ckknight | why, Arrowmaster? |
| 22:45.43 | Arrowmaster | it exposes your email address to the world |
| 22:45.45 | nevcairiel | That must've been before Ace1 final reelase or so :P |
| 22:45.48 | renchap | let the user choose |
| 22:45.49 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: no it doesn't |
| 22:45.52 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: it's md5'd |
| 22:45.54 | nevcairiel | thats when i appeared, and back then it wasnt an acronym anymore |
| 22:45.54 | Arrowmaster | yes it does |
| 22:45.59 | Arrowmaster | its been reversed |
| 22:46.08 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: you don't _have_ to use it. |
| 22:46.13 | ckknight | I'd make it an option |
| 22:46.19 | ckknight | use gravatar, upload your own |
| 22:46.19 | ckknight | etc. |
| 22:46.25 | Arrowmaster | if you add support for it then it would |
| 22:46.37 | Arrowmaster | unless you have to actually enable an option first |
| 22:46.48 | ckknight | that's what I just said... |
| 22:47.14 | Repo | 10charge-meter: 03Starinnia * r20 / (3 files in 2 directories): add a panel to the Blizzard options frame |
| 22:47.27 | Arrowmaster | right but just not uploading a pic to gravatar isnt a valid way to do it imho since that still exposes your email address |
| 22:47.30 | ckknight | use gravatar, upload your own, or just use the curse default (white guy) |
| 22:47.32 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03cremor * r4891 Naxxramas/Faerlina.lua: |
| 22:47.34 | Repo | Faerlina rain of fire message should now really be fixed, sry. |
| 22:47.55 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r119 LibGlory-3.0/: LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 22:47.57 | Repo | - Oppsie got ahead of myself by checking in LibGlory-3.0 (even put a comment there *shakes head*) |
| 22:48.17 | Arrowmaster | wonder if he saw the ticket |
| 22:48.17 | Xinhuan | *shakes head* |
| 22:48.34 | Arrowmaster | he did |
| 22:48.34 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: stop complaining, this won't affect you. You don't have to use it. |
| 22:48.41 | doom0r | [Trade] [Berzerkin]: any 1 know what the mods name is where u can get a sqare box of action |
| 22:48.52 | Wraith|Work | Is VS with the plugin the only wowaddon editor with a intelisense like thing? |
| 22:48.53 | doom0r | holy fuck, WTB box of action |
| 22:49.24 | viisual|work | WTS, like new, box of action. |
| 22:49.27 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: saying 'you dont have to use it' makes me wonder if you understand the problem |
| 22:49.42 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: what's the problem? |
| 22:49.52 | Arrowmaster | i dont use it but my email address is still exposed to the world on every site that does use it |
| 22:50.05 | ckknight | we won't be exposing your goddamn address |
| 22:50.13 | renchap | @ticket curseforge 1025 |
| 22:50.14 | Repo | renchap: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1025 - Gravatar support. Reported by: renchap. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 31 seconds ago. Component: Admin. Status: New. Priority: Medium. Assignee: Kaelten. Votes: 0. Comments: 0 |
| 22:50.50 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: pardon? |
| 22:51.32 | Arrowmaster | you take the persons name and a list of common email hosts and combine them and md5 all of them, check the list for a match to the md5 in the url from the site and you have the persons original email address if they use a major email provider and their username on the site matches the username of their email address |
| 22:52.14 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: we won't be exposing your address. What is your problem? |
| 22:52.33 | Wraith|Work | Arrowmaster: just as easily they could mass mail to everyone with your name at the common email address... |
| 22:52.44 | Arrowmaster | no problem as long as you dont do it like every other site that supports gravatar does it |
| 22:53.10 | Arrowmaster | Wraith|Work: right but that way you have a 100% match that you know the persons email address |
| 22:55.34 | doom0r | nevcairiel: is it intended for 2 rows of stancebar to overflow into 3 with 7 stances? |
| 22:56.16 | nevcairiel | maybe? |
| 22:56.19 | doom0r | i saw something about changing the math on that in a commit note, but i dont' see the point |
| 22:56.29 | doom0r | i would expect, setting 2 rows, to be 2 rows |
| 22:58.02 | Arrowmaster | fucking msn messenger spam, thats it im changing my settings so only people on my contact list can message me |
| 22:58.29 | nevcairiel | doom0r: the algorithm will properly create 2 rows and 4 buttons per row if fed 7 buttons and 2 rows configured |
| 22:58.35 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: isn't it fun? |
| 22:58.47 | thul | http://fc86.deviantart.com/fs40/i/2009/005/0/6/Candid_on_the_buss_by_cainadamsson.jpg < portrait of the day |
| 22:58.52 | doom0r | nevcairiel: i would beg to differ |
| 22:58.59 | doom0r | example: my screen |
| 22:59.28 | nevcairiel | you can manually calculate what the function does :P |
| 23:00.30 | doom0r | http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/531/wowscrnshot010509165905fl6.jpg |
| 23:00.43 | Repo | 10wintergraspfu: 03kunda * r17 .pkgmeta: FuBar_WintergraspFu: |
| 23:00.45 | Repo | - another .pkgmeta fix (FuBarPlugin) |
| 23:01.11 | nevcairiel | did you just get a 7th button or so? |
| 23:01.16 | doom0r | no |
| 23:01.17 | nevcairiel | and had 6 before? |
| 23:01.37 | doom0r | had 7 before you changed it |
| 23:02.14 | nevcairiel | ButtonPerRow = math_ceil(numbuttons / Rows) |
| 23:02.23 | nevcairiel | 7 / 2 = 3.5 --> 4 |
| 23:02.45 | nevcairiel | oh wait |
| 23:02.49 | nevcairiel | found the mistake =P |
| 23:02.54 | doom0r | lol |
| 23:03.03 | nevcairiel | local math_ceil = math.floor |
| 23:03.05 | nevcairiel | whats wrong |
| 23:03.05 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 23:03.11 | doom0r | ... |
| 23:03.17 | Megalon | hrhr |
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| 23:04.02 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r4892 Naxxramas/Faerlina.lua: BigWigs: Naxxramas/Faerlina: minor comment |
| 23:04.06 | Repo | 10guilder: 03onaforeignshore 07master * 315c583 / (21 files in 8 directories): [new, +1 commit] Initial alpha upload. Still buggy, use at your own risk! |
| 23:04.22 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.2.2-2-gfe3f9e1 ButtonBar.lua: [+1 commit] Fix a copy/paste error that resulted in inconsistent Rows behavior |
| 23:04.41 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 23:05.12 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: that's a rather fancy mistake :) |
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| 23:09.17 | steev | wtf |
| 23:09.22 | steev | forums are fail |
| 23:09.34 | steev | quote from some random horde who is obviously full of shit |
| 23:10.02 | steev | It's not a problem. I beat a alli pally in a duel with my Horde DK and he bubble-healed 3-4 times. He went in to PvP and I one shot him...although he killed me shortly after XD |
| 23:12.17 | Aeyan | You shouldn't hang around the official forums |
| 23:12.20 | Aeyan | You'll catch something |
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| 23:16.12 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1313 Locals (8 files in 1 directory): |
| 23:16.15 | Repo | Updated zhTW to remove all unneeded strings, and added them all to http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/localization/. Added comments in each localization file regarding the localization application. Will need to do more work on this later. |
| 23:16.31 | AckisWork | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/localization/enUS/ and http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/localization/zhTW/ lol |
| 23:17.13 | ckknight | what? |
| 23:17.38 | doom0r | 1498 localized texts |
| 23:17.41 | AckisWork | look at the number of translations I've bogged your system down with :P |
| 23:18.12 | Arrowmaster | make wowdb do the translations |
| 23:18.16 | ckknight | it's okay |
| 23:18.29 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: we want accurate translations |
| 23:19.01 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r120 / (35 files in 13 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 23:19.03 | Repo | - Rename sublibraries as per ticket 2 |
| 23:19.07 | AckisWork | (that was a zing btw) :P |
| 23:19.11 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: ^--- |
| 23:19.20 | ckknight | AckisWork: I saw |
| 23:20.01 | ckknight | good one |
| 23:20.01 | nevcairiel | at least he does what being told |
| 23:20.01 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: i saw, he replied to the ticket |
| 23:20.29 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: what have you done to fuckup http://www.wowace.com/profiles/ckknight/projects/ so much |
| 23:20.46 | AckisWork | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/953-ru-ru-localization-displays-american-flag/ <-- vote this +3 !!!!! |
| 23:20.48 | Arrowmaster | oh lol found it |
| 23:20.57 | ckknight | AckisWork: :P |
| 23:21.05 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: yea, need to fix that |
| 23:21.12 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: i think its http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/project-2187/ |
| 23:21.45 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: quite probable. |
| 23:22.12 | Arrowmaster | going to edit the description or should i |
| 23:23.03 | ckknight | don't |
| 23:23.05 | Repo | 10baldrick: 03LordFarlander * r126 / (2 files in 1 directory): Baldrick: |
| 23:23.06 | ckknight | I'll fix the code |
| 23:23.09 | Repo | - Update to changed names of LibLordFarlander sublibraries |
| 23:23.25 | Arrowmaster | ok, so you want the description the same as a test case? |
| 23:24.00 | Arrowmaster | kinda funny that it displays the paypal button on your projects list but not on the actual page |
| 23:24.52 | ckknight | got it |
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| 23:26.04 | ckknight | okay, check http://www.wowace.com/profiles/ckknight/projects/ now |
| 23:26.04 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 23:26.19 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r130 / (3 files in 1 directory): Coconuts: |
| 23:26.21 | Repo | - Update to changed names of LibLordFarlander sublibraries |
| 23:26.29 | Repo | 10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander * r146 / (3 files in 1 directory): MiniPet: |
| 23:26.31 | Repo | - Update to changed names of LibLordFarlander sublibraries |
| 23:26.51 | nevcairiel | chinchilla is a deleted project? |
| 23:26.59 | ckknight | wth |
| 23:27.06 | Arrowmaster | merge stuff |
| 23:27.11 | ckknight | no |
| 23:27.17 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 23:27.19 | nevcairiel | second project |
| 23:27.19 | ckknight | ah, yea |
| 23:27.23 | ckknight | that makes sense |
| 23:35.26 | Arrowmaster | making my list of ckk's projects i want points from and this list seems rather small.... should i start digging into the fubar plugins |
| 23:36.12 | ckknight | if you want to |
| 23:40.12 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal * r35 Revelation.lua: Fixed Bagnon support. |
| 23:40.14 | Repo | Added OneBag3 support. |
| 23:40.17 | Repo | Further streamlining. |
| 23:41.10 | ckknight | Torhal: what's Revelation? |
| 23:41.14 | ckknight | @project revelation |
| 23:41.40 | Torhal | ckknight: Tradeskill execution via itemclicks. |
| 23:41.44 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/revelation/. Revelation. Game: WoW. Torhal (Manager/Author). Updated: 2 days ago. Tickets: 2/4 |
| 23:41.48 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 23:42.41 | Shefki | Why would you need to support specific bag addons, they all have to use the Blizzard button template. |
| 23:43.07 | Torhal | Shefki: There are places where I don't want clicks to register, such as the PaperDollInspectFrame |
| 23:43.14 | Torhal | So I whitelist frames which I do want to support,. |
| 23:43.29 | Xinhuan | would a blacklist be better |
| 23:43.29 | Shefki | Why not just blacklist frames you don't want to support. |
| 23:43.42 | Shefki | Surely the list of the ones you don't want is far more limited than the other way around. |
| 23:44.23 | Torhal | Meh, probably. I'm lucky I can think enough to do half the stuff I have been, considering how sick I've been the past week. |
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| 23:45.07 | vhaarr | Torhal: or you could say "ah, right, that's a good idea, I didn't think of that because I'm not as experienced as you guys - thank you for the help" |
| 23:45.38 | Torhal | If I keep finding bag adons which name their frames, I may just do that. Right now, though, my whitelist is: |
| 23:45.40 | Torhal | {"Container", "TradeRecipient", "Slot", "BagginsBag", "BagnonItem", "OneBagFrame"} |
| 23:45.41 | vhaarr | also, I don't see why you would blacklist the PaperDollInspectFrame |
| 23:45.59 | Torhal | vhaarr: You can't execute tradeskills from it. |
| 23:46.08 | Shefki | Torhal: Here I'll add another, TBag |
| 23:46.08 | Torhal | If I inspect you, I ca'nt enchant your gear |
| 23:46.16 | vhaarr | yes but you might want to open the menu to see what you could do on that particular item |
| 23:46.31 | vhaarr | so just make them disabled |
| 23:46.47 | Shefki | Torhal: Pretty much every bag addon has to name our frames. |
| 23:46.53 | vhaarr | and why you have the enchants as a submenu when you click on an item, like "Gloves -> ...", why not just show the list right away? |
| 23:46.56 | Torhal | Combuctor somehow doesn't. |
| 23:46.58 | Shefki | Because Blizzard's code uses the name of the frame to get info. |
| 23:47.02 | Torhal | vhaarr: I do. |
| 23:47.05 | Torhal | Old screenshot. |
| 23:48.03 | Shefki | Torhal: You can add Tinvainer to that list. |
| 23:48.16 | vhaarr | Torhal: I can't sleep, why is it so hot in my bedroom? I'm blaming this on Revelation, and I'm counting on you to fix it. |
| 23:48.29 | Torhal | ? |
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| 23:49.09 | vhaarr | :p |
| 23:51.29 | Repo | 10guilder: 03onaforeignshore 07master * 1.0.0-1-g79b88f5 / (18 files in 7 directories): [+1 commit] First minor bugfix - working as expected now... I hope |
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| 23:53.43 | onaforeignshore | ok, so that's it for me for today. I'll figure out how to get it to say 1.0.0 r1 tomorrow :) |
| 23:53.47 | onaforeignshore | night people |
| 23:53.51 | Repo | 10charge-meter: 03Starinnia * r21 / (2 files in 2 directories): fix Blizz option pane entry |
| 23:55.21 | NeoTron | anyone tried http://www.wowmeteronline.com/ at all? |
| 23:56.31 | Shefki | My GF's guild uses it now. |
| 23:56.48 | Repo | 10baldrick: 03LordFarlander * r127 Baldrick_DailyQuests.lua: Baldrick: |
| 23:56.50 | Repo | - Forgot about DailyQuests |
| 23:56.53 | Skellum | I would if combat wasnt so Fubar atm |
| 23:57.05 | Shefki | Seems decent to me. |
| 23:57.09 | Skellum | Fucking HAT spec keeps screwing up proper DPS parses. |
| 23:57.30 | Shefki | How's it screw it up? |
| 23:57.44 | NeoTron | I don't quite like the UI |
| 23:57.49 | NeoTron | but WWS is so buggy atm |
| 23:57.52 | Skellum | The length of a fight, being radically shortened by a broken ability means you cannot correctly parse your DPS |
| 23:58.02 | Shefki | My understanding is the guy who did all the work on WWS quit. |
| 23:58.23 | NeoTron | Shefki: WWS is one person and always was.. |
| 23:58.24 | Skellum | If I have to DPS patchwerk for about 1.5-2.5 mins instead of 4-4.5 my DPS is incredibly higher in the former. |
| 23:58.51 | NeoTron | if that person no longer works on it, it's pretty much dead |
| 23:58.58 | NeoTron | since he's the only one with the source from what I understand |
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