IRC log for #wowace on 20090103

00:00.10taledennot a big deal though, I can live with the autogenerated name, just seemed strange
00:00.29taledensince the server doesn't say what's wrong, it just hangs for awhile and then gives a generic 500 code
00:01.23ckknightyou using .docmeta?
00:01.32taledenyeah
00:01.42ckknightk, so what are you trying to do?
00:02.18taledenby default it generates "API/<filename>", but since my project only has one file anyway I renamed the first version to just "API"
00:02.25ckknightokay
00:02.42taledenwhen I updated the code, luadoc generated a new "API/<filename>", I deleted the "API" page, and tried to rename the new one to "API" but couldn't
00:02.53ckknighthrm
00:02.56ckknightyea, I can see why
00:03.01taledenlike I said its not a big deal, just a slightly longer page url, but the error message was not clear at all
00:03.02ckknightin any event, I changed .docmeta
00:03.07ckknightuse the single file syntax.
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00:06.45taledenin other news, is there a way to do relative links in curse wiki markup?  it says "simple linking" doesn't work, which I take to be the "[pagename]" syntax, but the only other markup I see on the mediawiki doc is full urls
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00:08.04nevcairielthey still need to fix that
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00:08.08nevcairieljust to absolute links
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00:21.55Camciwhere can i read abuot how to add art in kgpanels?
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00:37.15onaforeignshoreI'm going to have to find out how to do character-based profiles before I can even think of making my addon available :(
00:37.40onaforeignshoreI hate that there is so little Ace3 reference material online
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00:45.23Tullerif i recall, the unit tests in ace3 are pretty decent examples
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00:53.35taledendid you find the ace3 docs on the old wiki site? which are apparenty linked nowhere from the new site?
00:53.45taledenhttp://old.wowace.wom/wiki/ace3 or somesuch I think
00:58.32AiianeI moved my Getting Started article over from the old to the new months ago
00:58.46Aiianethe other items weren't really centralized I don't think
00:58.53Aiianethey were on various pages for the different libraries
01:02.21Adirellewith the new .docmeta thingy, I think API pages will be soon available again
01:04.17Adirellegotta sleep
01:04.18Adirellenight
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01:35.24CryectCurious anyone have any idea at around what percentage of elements changing in a table its faster to do an insertion sort on the changed elements versus using table.sort?
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01:40.35ckknightCryect: typically (not necessarily lua), insertion sort is better than quick sort up to 10 elements
01:41.13ckknightI should stop playing WC3
01:41.15ckknightand work on PB4
01:42.47Cryectalright
01:44.38AnaralAnyone know why SatrinaBuffFrames are placing my target's buffs on my frame instead of the target frame?
01:45.55AnaralOh, and I do have mirror buffs unchecked.
01:47.48ckknightanyone know a lot about the arena units?
01:48.22Shefkiarena units?
01:48.30ckknightarena1
01:48.32ckknightarena2
01:48.33ckknightetc.
01:48.42ShefkiUmm no such thing as far as I know.
01:48.58quiescensits new~
01:50.28ShefkiHmm interesting.
01:53.04ckknightthis is good (and SFW): http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1230932906109.jpg
01:55.19FroMasterIn Pitbull using Dogtags can I track when a spell is cast on a Player (like Power Word: Shield) so I can see if its active on a sepcific target?
01:56.04ckknight[HasAura("Power Word: Shield")]
01:56.07ckknightit returns a boolean
01:56.12Repo10mountiful: 03Jomar 041.3.3 * r33 : Tagging as 1.3.3
01:59.19FroMasterckknight: Could I say set a Icon on one of the corners?
01:59.54ckknightnot without a lot of craftiness
02:00.03FroMaster<-- Not crafty
02:00.16FroMasterHow about a border around the frame?
02:02.49FroMasterduh... I just enabled the Buffs for the Raid Frame and it shows just what I wanted
02:04.13ckknight*thumbs up*
02:04.58FroMasterWhere can I configure the Buff Filtering for just Raids (want to just show one buff instead of all of them)
02:07.44Repo10proculas: 03Xocide 071.3 * r103 : Branching as 1.3
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02:08.44ckknightokay, gonna code for srs
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02:23.54Repo10hellbender-dkp: 03Celess 042.0 * r51 : Tagging as 2.0
02:24.30needhelpwhat bot do yall use here
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02:26.09aestilcan anyone tell me the name of the mod that the rune under the DK frame which modifys the runes?
02:26.11aestilhttp://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?bc8dd403e7.png
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02:27.11ShefkiNot sure which addon has that style of runes.
02:27.13Anaralneedhelp we don't use or approve the use of botting programs.
02:27.32ShefkiAnaral: He might be asking about an IRC bot.
02:27.40needhelplol yeah.. ircbot
02:27.45AnaralSorry.
02:27.47Shefkipoints at purl.
02:27.55ShefkiBut there's several bots in the channel.
02:27.57Anaralpets purl
02:28.04Anaral~pet purl
02:28.29purlACTION reaches over and pets purl on the head, saying "There, there! It'll all be ok!"
02:28.29ShefkiSuch as lua_bot and Repo
02:28.29Shefkilua_bot> 1 == 1
02:28.32needhelpso...
02:28.38needhelppet purl and lua bot
02:29.49needhelpim looking into getting a bot for my channel ..
02:29.57needhelpi was looking into infobot and supy
02:30.09Shefkipurl is an infotbot.
02:30.16Shefkiinfobot*
02:30.17needhelpi cant find a url for it
02:30.34Shefkihttp://www.infobot.org/
02:30.49needhelpahh.. thats what i was looking at
02:30.55needhelpi was calling it just infobot
02:31.08needhelpive heard horror storys about bots being taken over.. or hacked
02:31.14needhelpis it a big security risk?
02:38.58Repo10fu-bar_raid-save-fu: 03jokeyrhyme * r30 FuBar_RaidSaveFu.toc: FuBar_RaidSaveFu:
02:39.00Repo- use packager keywords in TOC
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02:41.11Repo10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme * r10 / (3 files in 1 directory): EggTimer:
02:41.13Repo- start work on expiry announcements
02:47.12Hell-Razoranybody know if theres an addon that saves all the settings for your addons so its universal for each char?
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02:55.56Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r125 locales/locales.xml: - fixing xml header
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03:03.37TorhalHell-Razor: This magical addon would have to know the inner-workings of every addon in existence, and then somehow overwrite their SavedVariables.
03:05.26quiescensa wizard did it
03:06.05quiescensyou could potentially make one that works for addons that use the ace profile thingy fairly reliably
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03:10.54Repo10nauticus: 03Drool * r119 / (3 files in 2 directories): - update German localisation (thanks Larry)
03:10.57Repo- minor fix to French phrase 'Map Icons'
03:11.40Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r126 readme.txt: - test edit, changed auth info
03:13.19Repo10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme 04v0.1.3 * r11 : EggTimer:
03:13.22Repo- tagging as 0.1.3
03:14.19Silowyihttp://vnboards.ign.com/WoW_Mage_Class/b22779/92442142/?7 does this macro still work?
03:14.51quiescensdoubt it
03:14.54ShefkiNo
03:15.02ShefkiUseInventoryItem() is protected in combat.
03:15.25Silowyiis there another similar macro to basically use trinket B if A is on cooldown?
03:15.31ShefkiNo
03:15.34Silowyifun
03:15.40ShefkiThey specifically prevented you from doing that with 2.0
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03:15.54quiescensthat one doesn't use trinket b if as is on cooldown anyway
03:15.56ShefkiMacros can't make decisions for you based on cooldowns and what not.
03:15.59quiescensit would use both if available
03:16.13quiescensand skip one if its already on cooldown
03:16.37quiescensyou may as well just have /use 13
03:16.39quiescens<PROTECTED>
03:16.41Silowyik
03:16.43quiescens<PROTECTED>
03:16.45Silowyidoes that work? ^_^
03:17.11Silowyioh it does, thanks
03:17.16quiescensand maybe add a line to clear the little red warnings about things being on cooldown
03:18.08Silowyiyeah
03:18.12Silowyiit's been a while since I did macros
03:18.48Silowyiwhat's that line to clear errors :P
03:20.37GngskI think it's /run UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
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03:25.10Silowyithx
03:28.47Silowyiworks perfectly
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03:31.24Repo10hellbender-dkp: 03Celess * r52 Locale-enUS.lua: - removing extra file
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03:35.05Repo10hellbender-dkp: 03Celess * r53 HellbenderDKP.toc: - version update
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03:35.11Repo10hellbender-dkp: 03Celess 042.0.1 * r54 : Tagging as 2.0.1
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03:52.49Hell-Razoranybody know if theres an addon that saves all the settings for your addons so its universal for each char?
03:54.54Repo10revelation: 03Torhal * r33 Revelation.toc: Updated OptDeps in TOC.
03:58.32Repo10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r39 Broker_RecZone.lua: Broker_RecZone:
03:58.34Repo- Show collector zone instances in the lists for zones
04:01.00Primeromg, ventrilo server on Linux is so stupid
04:01.26Primeryou can't bind to an IP, so it binds to all...it'll gladly receive packets on one IP...BUT IT RESPONDS ONLY ON THE DEFAULT IP!
04:02.39TorhalPrimer: Quick! Assassinate the author!
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04:03.14Torhalckknight: I'm starting to think wowace.com needs to get laid. You know, unclog the pipes and such.
04:03.38Repo10proculas: 03Xocide 071.3 * r104 modules/paladinprocs.lua: Added more Paladin procs.
04:03.58Repo10revelation: 03Torhal 043.0.3-1.1.2 * r34 : Tagging as 3.0.3-1.1.2
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04:06.12PrimerTorhal: only the "professional" version allows for binding to an IP
04:06.28TorhalUh...
04:06.31TorhalWackness.
04:06.45Ackisfemale driver: http://poststuff5.entensity.net/010209/flash.php?media=forklift.flv
04:07.15Ackisany broker addons for performance fu/ammo fu?
04:07.17TorhalOne of my favorite code comments in Revelation is: -- I robbed Ackis!
04:07.20Ackisor location fu?
04:07.24AckisTorhal: ZOMG
04:07.29AckisTorhal thief!
04:07.31Torhal:D
04:07.40Ackis@project delete revelation
04:07.41RepoAckis: No project found that matches 'delete'
04:07.42Ackis;)
04:07.45TorhalHaha
04:07.47Ackis@project revelation
04:07.48RepoAckis: http://www.wowace.com/projects/revelation/. Revelation. Game: WoW. Torhal (Manager/Author). Updated: 3 minutes ago. Tickets: 2/3
04:07.52Ackisman I would've shit if that actually worked
04:08.04Torhal:D
04:08.24Ackiswould've had to undelete it however :P
04:09.10AckisI think I had a piece of code commented like: code stolen from x who stole it from y who stole it from z
04:11.09TorhalHah
04:11.09TorhalNice
04:13.28Repo10proculas: 03Xocide 041.3.2 * r105 : Tagging as 1.3.2
04:17.04Ackis~wowspell 2329
04:17.07purlhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=2329 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=2329
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04:50.12Hell-RazorPrimer, theres a linux vent client?
04:50.34Zyndromein development
04:51.28Hell-Razorthats what theyve said for like 10 years now
04:51.40Hell-Razoris there a public beta yet?
04:55.43Zyndromenone as I know of
04:56.02Zyndromeit's one of those small things that keep me from switching to Linux
04:56.16Zyndromedevelopers that bleed out of their vagoos about open source
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04:57.38Zyndromewould be a problem less if my guild used TeamSpeak though :P
04:59.19taledeni play on linux
04:59.21taledenvent works just fine in wine
04:59.32taledenand a native linux vent will never come out, ever, so far as i know
04:59.43taledenthey say "in development" because it sounds like better PR than "no, never", but that's what it means
05:01.10Zyndromefigures .. I havn't heard of anyone using ventrilo fine in wine
05:01.26Zyndromebut even if it does, I have another problem: Creative X-Fi soundcard
05:01.30Zyndrome*dun dun dun*
05:02.19taledendrivers are always fun
05:02.41taledento be fair, it did take a lot of settings experimentation to get ventrilo working fine
05:03.02taledenwhich used to involve a crazy command line app that trapped the push-to-talk key and forwarded it to the vent window, because linux doesn't let apps intercept keystrokes if they don't have focus, the way windows does
05:05.14Repo10proculas: 03Xocide * r106 / (3 files in 2 directories): Cleaned up the code.
05:05.17RepoAdded the ability to change the color of the default proc message.
05:05.19RepoAdded the Paladin procs that were added in 1.3.2
05:07.33PrimerHell-Razor: I never wrote that
05:08.23PrimerFUCK TIME WARNER!!!!!!!!!!
05:08.37PrimerI was just about to kill Sarth in 10 man...and their upstream died
05:08.38steevwhere does dps get their helm enchant? wowhead is failing me at looking it up
05:08.47taledenebon blade i think
05:09.02PrimerI can get through their network (irc proxy to work, which has TW)
05:09.12Primerbut I can't get beyond it
05:09.16Hell-RazorPrimer, are you using vent on wine / cedega?
05:09.18Primernow my loot's probably gone
05:10.17steevtaleden: yes sir, thanks
05:10.24Primerdude
05:10.26PrimerI never said client
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05:27.03Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1298 / (7 files in 3 directories):
05:27.05RepoUpdate a bunch of alchemy recipes with accurate data.  If you're paying attention to commit notes, the dataminer won't be used anymore so feel free to make manual changes to the databases if you see fit.  Fuck wowdb in the ass.
05:27.26Stanzillalieks Ackis
05:28.02TorhalAckis: Why does ARL (unknown version) show "Blort!" for every skill? :)
05:28.18AckisTorhal: Something is broken
05:28.22TorhalHeh
05:28.22kontrollAckis and wowdb sitting in a tree. :P
05:28.25Ackisblort = uh oh display
05:28.36Ackisie: we have no data to display so lets blort
05:28.42TorhalHaha
05:28.45Repo10proculasfu: 03Xocide * r10 Core.lua: Added the ability to open the Proculas config window when you Rick Click ProculasFu.
05:28.49AckisTorhal: best bet is to do a full reinstall
05:29.02TorhalYah, figured. Just thought it was funny
05:29.05TorhalHad to ask
05:30.38Ackis~api GetFactionInfo
05:30.56purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetFactionInfo
05:35.28Zhinjiomy Blort legacy lives on.
05:35.31Zhinjiogrins.
05:35.49AckisI love your blort
05:35.56Ackispurposly haven't removed it lol
05:36.02Shefkiblort?
05:36.05Stanzillasometimes, I have the feeling that Ackis does not love me anymore :(
05:36.22AckisI love you Stanzilla
05:36.27Stanzilla:D
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05:37.40Ackisi'm farting a lot
05:38.02Ackismy gf is about to pass out
05:38.17Stanzillathat's not very nice
05:38.47AckisI find it adorable
05:39.02Ackistold her I was gonna rape her and then kill her, she said "at least I'll die with a smile on my face"
05:39.37Aiiane...
05:40.05Stanzillawtf^^
05:40.55Ackishaha
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05:48.16Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1299 AckisRecipeList.lua:
05:48.18RepoFix an issue where if you didn't have all your factions expanded, it wouldn't figure out what reps you had.  Feel free to use the code for curesprofiler ckk
05:48.40Ackis@project arl
05:48.41RepoAckis: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Elkano (Author), Zhinjio (Author), Jim-Bim (Author). Updated: 20 minutes ago. Tickets: 9/307
05:51.12Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1300 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fix ticket 307 (tailoring issue)
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06:29.15Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1301 / (4 files in 2 directories):
06:29.17RepoFix smelting data, and fix a bug with the reputations.  We won't listen to the event of faction changing anymore because it fires 8x when you get new rep and does some lame scanning, so we'll ignore that and accept the fact that if you get a reputation level, the recipe may appear red until you relog. :P
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06:51.00Repo10dkfight: 03viisual * r7 / (4 files in 1 directory):
06:51.11RepoAdded tracking: Gnaw, Mirror of Truth, Unholy Strength.  Cleaned up display code.
06:52.16Stanzillahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_ggLGj37qI < naxx solo'd
06:52.22Stanzilla(military quarter)
06:52.27Stanzillavery funny to watch :P
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06:54.05Repo10proculas: 03Xocide 071.3 * r107 / (2 files in 2 directories): Added some more trinket procs.
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07:05.05Xinhuan@project omen-threat-meter
07:05.47quiescensoh noes
07:06.29RepoXinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/omen-threat-meter/. Omen Threat Meter. Game: WoW. Xinhuan (Manager/Author), Antiarc (Author), anmoch (Author), Nevcairiel (Author). Updated: 24 hours ago. Tickets: 2/19
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07:17.30Xinhuanzzz backlog of issues
07:21.43quiescensgo to sleep
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07:34.16chillyboarderanyone interested in a free domain? for 25-50 posts you can get any tld of your choice. www.domainport.co.uk
07:34.51sacarascanyone interested in some free spam? just read the above message!
07:35.12chillyboarderthx mate, that's the spirit
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07:40.54sacarascbesides, you lied... seems they only do 4 tlds and i wanted a .su
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08:10.48Fisker-~seen Kaelten
08:10.50purlkaelten is currently on #wowprogramming (1d 2h 37m 45s). Has said a total of 13 messages. Is idling for 3h 42m 33s, last said: 'anyho, back to this deathnight,'.
08:19.07XinhuanKaelten :)
08:19.36Xinhuanping
08:20.35Fisker-Xinhuan my enemy!
08:20.56sacarascFisker- my idol!
08:21.19Fisker-why so awesome sacarasc?
08:22.55sacarasci was born that way
08:24.41Fisker-STUPID TIREDNESS
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08:24.46Fisker-now i bought a recipe i already knew
08:25.16onaforeignshorebah! this addon is giving me grey hair lol
08:25.26sacarasci've done that before, Fisker-
08:26.22Kaelten:P
08:26.31XinhuanKaelten ;p
08:26.45Xinhuansome person wants to create a project on wowace that isn't an addon - is that permissable? lol
08:27.05Kaeltenwhat is it?
08:27.08Xinhuanits a guide and he wants to produce localized zips
08:27.13Xinhuanhttp://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=260298#post260298
08:27.25Kaeltenif the answer is a car, the answer is no
08:27.37Kaeltena guide?
08:27.41Xinhuannah its wowace guides apparently
08:27.42Kaeltenan in game guide or just a guide
08:27.47Xinhuanjust a guide
08:27.52Xinhuansee that thread last few posts
08:28.00Celessthat happened to me too, but they did it right an made a clone to make a chinese verion instead
08:28.34Kaeltenhrm, I'd probably allow that
08:28.38Kaeltenas long as its addons related
08:28.44Fisker-Kaelten
08:28.47Celessi had no idea they were doign it til i happened to browse the repository, which i promptly integrated :)
08:28.56Fisker-Windows DEFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENDEEERsays curse client sucks
08:28.57Xinhuanhe did a initial guide on creating wow images
08:28.58Fisker-and should feel bad
08:29.01Xinhuanon the tips forum
08:29.20Xinhuannow he wants to make a guide on it with svn and stuff for localization
08:29.31Xinhuanand mainly for images support
08:29.39Xinhuanbecause you can upload images to a project
08:30.15KaeltenFisker-: wait till monday and tell me all about it :)
08:30.16Xinhuanwhich can be used directly, and the pages on wowace can be localized
08:30.36KaeltenXinhuan: makes sense
08:30.38Xinhuanso do i answer yes, its ok to that guy?
08:30.52Kaeltenya, we'll give it a shot :)
08:31.17Fisker-i miss being a gnome :(
08:32.47Celessjust close your eyes and imagine yourself in a sea of gnomes, whispering im home im home
08:38.29TorhalXinhuan: BTW: 1.1.2 should fix your issues. I've been using it extensively and even enchanted something for someone.
08:38.50Xinhuank will grab it later
08:49.33onaforeignshoreTorhal: when I created bandages (frostweave) I chose all, but it only created them until my skill gained a level. is this by design?
08:51.09onaforeignshoreI had 13 frostweave cloth
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09:03.01Torhalonaforeignshore: Nope.
09:03.34TorhalCould you file a ticket, so I will remember to test it with my tailor?
09:03.58onaforeignshoreit's not tailoring, it's First Aid :p
09:04.13TorhalYah, but it stands to reason that a skillup is a skillup :)
09:05.18TorhalI _could_ test First Aid with him, but I'd kinda like to use my Frostweave for Tialoring. Hehe
09:06.19onaforeignshorewell, it's ticketed
09:06.35SkellumHrm
09:06.44TorhalThankye :)
09:14.33Stanzillalol
09:14.38StanzillaXinhuan: look what I found http://i44.tinypic.com/wbc65i.jpg
09:15.03Xinhuan:O
09:17.07Stanzilladon't you remember that? :P
09:17.40SkellumYou know....I dont know what it is about my guild
09:17.48SkellumBut every asian player we have had has been terrible
09:18.59SkellumOne...well he told us mace spec was really great on brutallus and that he would stun the pit lord....
09:19.52SkellumThe other was a warlock with horrible DPS in BC pre3.0. And the only time his DPS was good was for a week, when he decided to bind Sbolt to mouse scroll
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09:27.20doom0rWTS sudo apt-get install postgresql
09:28.05Zaodoom0r: I'd pay 400g for a decent DB.
09:28.12doom0rWaiting for www.wowace.com... =\
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09:28.55quiescenssudo apt-get remove libc6
09:29.38quiescensruns
09:29.40ZaoWhat do you mean, can't run executables? We don't need to, this is a web server!
09:29.50Lysitheafix-my-ui-day in effect, 2hours just dling addons to see which one I will use
09:30.04Lysitheanow, when loading up wow I forgot to turn some of them on at a time
09:30.21Lysitheainformation overload when I finished loading
09:30.50doom0rinstall an addon manager, install them all, the most annoying thing that doesn't have immediate options available gets the boot :P
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09:31.24ZaoLysithea: I changed my panel, unit frames and fonts last night. Things looked a bit ... bad.
09:31.52doom0rwoot, got a 500
09:31.54ZaoAnd went worse when I grouped and noticed that the unit frames didn't have party support yet :P
09:32.33LysitheaI havent even looked at different addons since pre3.0
09:32.42Lysitheacause I know it takes a long time for me when I start with my ui
09:32.56LysitheaI can sit for 30min just to decide how I want the health# to be shown
09:32.57Lysithea:(
09:34.12doom0ri spent an hour playing with 1337/1337 (100%) vs 1337/1337 [100%] yesterday
09:34.36doom0rrecommends paren
09:34.37onaforeignshore1337/1337 - 100%
09:34.38onaforeignshore:p
09:35.13doom0rdefinitely not
09:35.17Lysitheaall my powa and msbt events
09:35.18doom0rthat would be horrible on the eyes
09:35.19Lysitheanoooooooooooooooooo
09:37.16LysitheaI think I used -4.7(in red) | 20.2k or something like it
09:37.48Lysithea% doesnt really do it for me
09:37.48doom0rlrn2zip/rar/sftp/rsync/unison/writestuffdownonapieceofpaper?
09:37.48Lysitheawell, on mobs sure
09:38.00Trell_is there a relative 'cap' for resto shamans on healing?
09:38.01Lysitheadoom0r hdd crash shortly after 3.0
09:38.15doom0rprecisely
09:38.21Trell_ie; a point at which it stops becoming viable to stack spellpower
09:45.01doom0rTrell_: > 1*3^2*8^2*15.625
09:45.24doom0rruns away
09:45.41quiescensstabs doom0r with a pillow.
09:46.09doom0rbrushes the feathers off
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09:58.35sacarasccheers
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10:03.17Zyndrome!
10:03.22Zyndromehas developed a goiter.
10:03.30Zyndromenow .. naptime
10:06.19CodayusTrell_:  I don't think your question makes sense.  Perhaps try rephrasing.
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10:10.19doom0rloaded question imo
10:20.13Repo10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 07master * v3.0.5-3-g8cdf4fa Localization (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Update zhTW/zhCN/deDE localization.
10:24.16IndustrialTrell_: by the time you are healing the tank for 100% each heal? :P
10:24.45Trell_I mean...
10:24.56Trell_im on about 2400 self buffed (earthliving + FT totem)
10:25.10Trell_20k mana, and about 450 mp5 casting
10:25.18Industrialnice :)
10:25.35Trell_wondering if its worth stacking more spellpower or going for more int/haste/mp5
10:25.56doom0rat that point, the items available as upgrade, limit your choices, since you are not the one that determines what is spent with the item budget
10:25.59Industrialwell theres not really much room for mixing and matching gear right now in pve right? you either have t7 and/or the pieces rom sarth/maly
10:26.03doom0rwhich makes it a loaded question
10:26.14doom0ryou can only do math against what's available
10:26.20Trell_yeah im at 3/5 t7 and 2/5 t7.5
10:26.45nevcairielpeople need to call it t7.10 and t7.25 <.<
10:26.58Industrialsame, and I have 3.3k ap and 30% crit as enhancement, been at this level for a few weeks
10:27.08doom0rnevcairiel: that would have been nice
10:27.26nevcairielt7 and t7.5 is silly, imho
10:28.01doom0rwaht do the designers call it
10:28.01sacarasclucky you, Industrial ;(
10:28.30Trell_well I don't have a problem going oom, or underhealing etc
10:28.51Trell_but then I haven't tried anyhting really hard tbqh, like sarth 3 drakes
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10:30.12Industrialsacarasc: why?
10:30.28sacarasci'm at 2.9kap and 23% crit ;p
10:30.42syerenThere are no item budgets Trell_.
10:30.43Industrialwhy so low crit
10:30.58syerenNo point developing any at the moment due to the ease of the content the consensus was.
10:31.06sacarascjust not got any new critty items ;(
10:31.09Industrialsacarasc: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Vashj&n=Xamth
10:31.12syerenJust know that in the current game; Int > Everything.
10:31.38nevcairielyou only have one tier of items to use anyway, not many slots have an alternative
10:31.38Industrialhit hit hit! i needs mroe! :P
10:31.46nevcairielT7 Set items usually win, anyway
10:31.58Industrialtheres 25man malygos gloves and helms for all specs I think?
10:32.01syerenEverything in the game is doable with Heroic gear so whatever :p
10:32.19Industrialthose certainly win over t7 for enh sham, like +100 ap :P\
10:32.36nevcairielnot for all specs, no.
10:33.25Stanzillashadowpriest t7 sucks
10:33.58Trell_http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Draenor&n=Dipity is me
10:34.07syerenNext patch.
10:34.11syerenCrit becomes less valuable.
10:34.15syerenHaste moreso.
10:34.18syerenWith Int remaining top :p
10:34.29Industrialsyeren: for what class/spec ..
10:34.37syerenResto Shaman.
10:34.40sacarascIndustrial: you have a lot more wotlk upgrades... i barely raid anymore
10:34.59IndustrialI'm working towards all best slots :P
10:37.49Industrialour mage is doing like 4.5-5k dps and I cant take it, I'm only doing 3-3.5 :P NEED MOAR DEE PEE ESS
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10:38.16syerenOur enhancement SHaman does around 5k~
10:38.18syerenOr did ;p
10:38.19sacarascin 25 mans i lag up and do terribly, which is why i don't raid much ;(
10:38.28Industrialamg :O whats his nick?
10:38.33Industrial(just for armory)
10:38.35syerenLekkerbejke.
10:38.55Industrialbekje perhaps? :P
10:38.57syerenNope.
10:39.00syerenNo idea.
10:39.05syerenSome stupid foreign name meaning fish.
10:39.18Industrialdutch, yes. It's a fish\
10:39.39syerenHe quit 3 weeks ago.
10:39.46syerenNo point playing the game in it's current state :p
10:40.02Industrialhmm
10:40.28Industrialshrug im having fun
10:40.52syerenhttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormscale&n=Lekkerbekje
10:43.33XinhuanZeksie
10:43.48Zeksiehi
10:44.01Xinhuancan you turn off the player's AFK flag in xperl on a P_E_W
10:44.20Zeksielemmi check what it does
10:44.33Xinhuanits pretty easy to reproduce this - /afk, then zone somewhere
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10:44.42Xinhuanafter zoning, you no longer are <afk> tagged
10:44.50Xinhuanbut xperl still marks your player frame as afk
10:45.12Xinhuanthat is, gray colored bars
10:45.28Zeksiemmm. player directly checks UnitIsAFK().. lemmi test it with just a refresh of the health frame which does that bit.
10:45.30doom0ri love it when the people that start all the crap are emote spitting on me for ending it ;x
10:45.59Xinhuanchanging the player's health will indeed "unafk" the player
10:46.10Xinhuani.e equipping/unequipping a piece of gear
10:46.11Zeksiemmm. which it already does, does a full refresh on PEW.
10:46.19Xinhuanso hmm, weird bug?
10:46.24Xinhuantry /afk and zoning somewhere
10:46.30Zeksieyeh. doing now.sec
10:46.31Xinhuanat max health that is
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10:47.45Zeksiewell. it does a refresh. but looks like afk flag is cleared AFTER PEW.
10:47.52Zeksiegimme a min
10:47.56Xinhuanis there a AFK flag event of some sort then
10:48.08Zeksieusually yes, but seems to not be in this case
10:48.22Zeksieshould fire a UNIT_FLAGS or PLAYER_FLAGS_CHANGED
10:48.49Xinhuanthis is just one of those "minor annoyances" lol
10:49.10Zeksieyes. will try a few things to fix that. :)
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10:49.27Xinhuanon top of the "can't use this API in secure combat blah blah" errors
10:49.39Xinhuanget that a lot lately from xperl
10:49.48Zeksieyep. from the raid pets
10:50.03Zeksiei'm not gonna try and do anything about it until 3.0.8
10:50.12Xinhuanwhat are they fixing in 3.0.8?
10:50.42Repo10squire: 03Adirelle * r54 Core.lua:
10:50.44RepoChanged the way locales are stored to match what wowace.com localization feature exports.
10:50.46Zeksienot even looked yet. but the error comes from 'securely' inside the secure template stuff. I'm not trying to change a thing. I'm pretty sure it's a bug
10:51.17Zeksiethey do a check to see if attribute is being changed in combat, but they don't check issecure()
10:51.30Zeksieand some of their things obviously can change attributes
10:51.35Zeksielike when you create frames etc
10:51.48IndustrialAny enhancement shamans around?
10:52.03thuli did play one a while, he stays at 70 :-P
10:52.05thuldoes it count?
10:52.10Industrialno
10:52.15Industrialright now
10:53.21thulwhat is the question? :-P
10:53.56IndustrialI wanna compare dps, stats, rotation etc
10:53.57Industrial:E
10:54.10Industrial(Yes, I read EJ)
10:55.11thulwell, other than EJ, i can't help you :-P
10:55.19Industrialwhat I'm doing now is having a 2.5-2.7 speed weapon in both offhand and mainhand. I am using windfury on mainhand and flametongue on offhand
10:55.47Industrialmy dps is masically 5MW lightning bolt, storm strike, earth shock, lava lash in that order of precedence, whichever is off cooldown
10:55.53p3limflametongue got changed?
10:56.06Industriallava lash does extra damage with flametongue on offhand
10:56.11p3limah ok
10:56.15Fisker-Xinhuan
10:56.18Industrialso 4k crits ;P
10:56.19Fisker-You know if dummies contain threat?
10:56.25Xinhuanno idea
10:56.26Fisker-Because omen doesn't say shit
10:56.32Xinhuanprobably no then
10:56.42p3limFisker-: they dont
10:56.54Xinhuanthe dummies don't even attempt to target anyone
10:56.56p3limthey are like critters
10:57.00Xinhuanprobably AI-less
10:57.18Fisker-Critters have threath oho
10:57.19Fisker-hoho
10:57.35p3limrats perhaps
10:57.36Xinhuancritters are not AI-less ;p
10:58.03LysitheaIn clique, how do I get my macro in "Run Custom Macro" to work when mouseovering a uf?
10:58.08Lysitheanormal spells seems to work fin
10:58.09Lysitheae
10:58.20Lysitheabut for some reason I cant get macros to work
10:58.21XinhuanLysithea: use [target=mouseover] in the macro
10:58.38Lysitheabut wouldnt that work in the "world" aswell
10:58.52Xinhuanthat is correct - but you can't use clique on the "world"
10:58.54Fisker-WHAT NINE THOUSAND?
10:58.56Xinhuanbecause clique only works on unitframes
10:59.10Lysitheaah, I see
10:59.20Lysitheaso basically mouseover part only becomes on ufs
10:59.25Xinhuanyes
10:59.38ZeksieXinhuan: yeh, tested it. UnitIsAFK() is still 1 after PEW event, but thankfully i can set a flag and it's nil by the first OnUpdate
11:00.05Xinhuanhmm, alternatively you can check if event == PEW and just nil it
11:00.09Xinhuannot sure if that works well enough
11:00.10Fisker-Windows Update thinks i'm behind a firewall :E
11:00.51Zeksienah, can't do that. it's not a flag i change, it's a api func i check.
11:01.11Xinhuanthat is, "if event == PEW or not UnitIsAFK() then dothis"
11:01.23Xinhuanwhere dothis is to update as not afk
11:01.43Zeksieno.. that's even more yukky imo than refreshing OnUpdate ;)
11:01.48Xinhuanlol
11:01.55Xinhuanhow many onupdates are there in xperl?
11:02.02Zeksienot so many really
11:02.15Zeksiea lot of them are hidden when inactive
11:02.27Zeksieand most don't do a lot
11:03.14Zeksiemajority of the active ones are responsible for flashing the frames on combat dmg/healing
11:03.21Xinhuanhave you planned any fix for "show only buffs you can cast" yet?
11:03.55ZeksieXinhuan: not sure about that yet. would mean writing some whole filter thing, cos it's just not possible to get the API to return the same stuff any more
11:04.10Xinhuanyeah - hence any plans to write your whole filter thing ;p
11:04.16Zeksieheh
11:04.23Xinhuani know Shefki is writing one for pitbull4
11:04.24Xinhuan;p
11:04.32Zeksieperhaps when i'm a lil less busy levelling all my alts and rep grinding ;)
11:04.54nevcairielhm, show only buffs you can cast should work even with the API
11:05.02Xinhuanbut it doesn't nevcairiel
11:05.08Xinhuanthe API is "show buffs you cast"
11:05.10Zeksienevcairiel: nah, they changed it
11:05.12Xinhuannot "show buffs you CAN cast"
11:05.15Zeksieyep
11:05.20Xinhuanbig difference there
11:05.23Zeksieit's basically now a filter for isMine
11:05.30Xinhuanso if i'm a mage, i cannot see other people's AI
11:05.32Xinhuanonly my own AI
11:05.37Xinhuanwhich isn't what we want
11:05.40Zeksiewhich is a bit useless
11:05.43nevcairielthats weird, it works form me :P
11:05.44Xinhuani want to see "all AIs"
11:05.49Xinhuanwhether its from me or not
11:05.51nevcairiel-m
11:06.23Xinhuanyour unitframe might have hardcoded filters then
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11:06.31thulchave druids gotten a speed buff or something in wsg? :-(
11:06.32Xinhuancos the API definitelydosen't work that way anymore
11:06.41Lysitheahow do I type a macro with both target=mouseover and reset=x/condition?
11:06.50nevcairielno, no hardcoded filters
11:07.02XinhuanLysithea separate with commas
11:07.07Lysithea[target=x,reset=dhjdqwdq] does not seem to work
11:07.11Xinhuan[target=mouseover,reset=6/condition]
11:07.11nevcairieljust UnitAura with RAID filter
11:07.17Lysitheahrm
11:07.52nevcairielbefore 3.0 it worked like you described
11:07.57nevcairielit only showed buffs i casted
11:08.20Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r251 / (6 files in 6 directories): XPerl:
11:08.23Repo- Shield highlights now applied to Sacred Shield and will show the purple highlight bar when the actual shielding is active (NOT the passive buff).
11:08.25Repo- Players with Shadow of Death or Spirit of Redemption will now show as 'Dead' (their health bar will still function, but greyed).
11:08.26Xinhuanright now, its lame, i can only see buffs i casted, i can't see buffs (the exact same one) that other ppl casted
11:08.38nevcairieli can
11:08.44nevcairielclearly, your addon fails
11:08.46Xinhuanwhat filter are you using Zeksie
11:08.56Zeksieoop. and forgot the AFk msg in fix noes.
11:08.57Zeksienotes
11:09.03Lysitheaunknown macro option: reset=20/target
11:09.04Lysitheaheh
11:09.09Xinhuannevcairiel says "RAID" filter works
11:09.18Zeksiemmm. checking
11:09.28nevcairielLysithea: reset only works for /castsequence, and castsequence does not allow target changes
11:10.03Lysitheahow come my non clique macro resets on target swicth
11:10.04ZeksieXPerl_UnitBuff(partyid, buffnum, castableOnly and "RAID")
11:10.08Lysitheawhich is a castsequence
11:10.20Zeksieso.. i'm using "RAID".
11:10.37Zeksieoh wait..
11:10.48Zeksiethat old func is not passing that flag down.
11:10.56Xinhuanstabs Zeksie with a pillow
11:11.00Zeksieow
11:11.00nevcairiellol
11:11.17Lysitheanevcairiel
11:11.18Lysithea./castsequence reset=20/target/combat Abolish Disease, Cure Disease, Cure Disease, Cure Disease, Cure Disease, Cure Disease
11:11.24Lysitheaworks just fine (nonclique
11:11.26Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r252 XPerl.lua: XPerl: Don't ask.
11:11.29nevcairielyes, it does
11:11.42Zeksietry that
11:11.42nevcairielbut you cannot use [target=...] in castsequence
11:11.54Lysitheaoh
11:12.28nevcairielXinhuan: I just looked for some random guy with GotW up in Dalaran, enabled filter, it shows his GotW and his Thorns
11:12.32nevcairieland i most definately didnt cast them
11:13.08Xinhuanok nevcairiel, must be something in Zeksie's code :p
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11:13.09Xinhuanso i'm poking him now
11:13.09nevcairielmaybe his dont ask fix fixed it
11:13.09Xinhuanstabs Zeksie with a pillow
11:13.09Xinhuanlike that
11:13.09Zeksieok. must have missed the RAID option before. was pretty sure i'd checked PLAYER (which seemed more logical)..
11:13.20nevcairielyeah RAID is a weird naming
11:13.23nevcairielbut it does what you want
11:13.24Zeksieie: ones the PLAYER can cast.
11:13.28LysitheaSo this: Castsequence macro that reset=20/target and should be usable on mouseover on a UF, is not possible then?
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11:13.29Zeksieyeh. thx... mumble..
11:13.34nevcairielwhat you can cast on your RAID :P
11:14.10Zeksienow i just want them to provide vehicle events in the template api.
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11:14.27Zeksieand a filter for exluding vehicles in the raid pets
11:14.28nevcairielwe all want more vehicle love
11:14.35Zeksieaye.
11:14.38Xinhuanhttp://au.youtube.com/watch?v=S_ggLGj37qI
11:14.40nevcairielreplace player UF with vehicle UF
11:14.42Xinhuanmage soloes one naxx wing
11:14.42nevcairielwhen he enters
11:14.43nevcairielimho
11:15.16nevcairielplague wing probably? i can see that :P
11:15.26Xinhuanno
11:15.27Xinhuanmilitary wing
11:15.38Xinhuanrazuvious wing that is
11:15.42Zeksiespellstealing that bone shield then
11:15.45LysitheaI guess Ill have to do with normal abolish on mouseover on a UF
11:15.49nevcairielthere is no way in hell one can solo 4 horsemen
11:15.58nevcairielthe aura will kill you
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11:16.00Lysitheawith the bone shield he does
11:16.02Lysitheanop
11:16.09Lysithea63stacks and it did 143k or so
11:16.19Lysitheathose boneshields is insane absorbs tho
11:16.23Xinhuanman i should so do it
11:16.28Xinhuanneed to wait one reset
11:16.31Zeksie:)
11:16.37Lysitheado it before it get fixed!
11:16.47Xinhuanbut i don't need any naxx10 loot
11:16.48Xinhuan~_~
11:17.11purlSTOP DOING THAT!
11:17.25Lysitheasacrifice a 25man lockout? :)
11:18.15nevcairielcomments claim boneshield steal was hotfixed
11:18.21Xinhuanbut i need loot from the other wings
11:18.21Xinhuanlol
11:20.09nevcairielmm
11:20.21nevcairieldoes boneshield increase your DPS or how does he do 40k hits?
11:20.46selckin15% +spellpower of absorbed damage
11:20.59Fisker-haxes
11:21.14Fisker-he's gonna get B& Xinhuan
11:21.34selckinhe'll probably get a 72h ban
11:21.43Xinhuan^
11:21.46Xinhuanits a mage talent
11:21.47Fisker-He's probably already banned btw
11:21.49Xinhuanincreases your damage
11:21.53Xinhuanby 15% of damage absorbed
11:22.02Zeksiegrrr @ Snowfall Ink.
11:22.14Fisker-according to the armory link his last login was january 1st
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11:31.00Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r253 XPerl.lua: XPerl: Minor fix to castable/curable flag.
11:33.31nevcairielI wouldnt be surprised if they have some triggers to notify a dev if a player does too big hits with spells, or somehow manages to solo a boss.
11:34.11nevcairielbecause its usually an exploit of sorts
11:34.13Xinhuanfaxmonkey soloed onyxia on PTR
11:34.16Xinhuanlegit
11:34.20Xinhuanno cheats/hax
11:34.26Xinhuantop download of the week on warcraftmovies
11:34.27nevcairielsoloing onyxia is trivial
11:34.32Xinhuanyeah but he's a mage
11:34.37Xinhuanits not possible on live atm
11:34.48Xinhuanits possible on PTR due to 1 min reduction in cooldown on evocation
11:35.48Xinhuanin the whole video
11:35.52Xinhuanonly 1 bandage was used
11:35.55Xinhuanand 1 pot
11:38.33Xinhuanits pretty impressive
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11:46.01Megalonfaxmonkey is always up for impressive things hehe
11:47.18Xinhuanhe's on my realm
11:47.20Xinhuanjust opposite faction
11:47.56digmouseif you want surprising mages, get doomcaster and faxmonkey
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12:15.42Repo10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme * r12 EggTimer.lua: EggTimer:
12:15.45Repo- minor optimizations
12:15.48Repo- started work on use of LibBars-1.0
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12:47.28FoggerAnyone know an Addon that remembers Mailbox contents other than Armory or Altoholic?
12:49.40sztanpetarkinventory does
12:50.06Foggerthanks, I'll take a look
12:50.16XinhuanBankItems
12:52.54EthanCentauraiok the "fatal error 500" text was funny the first time, but now it's getting very old
12:53.04Fisker-http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1230983399566.jpg :(
12:53.20FoggerXinhuan: thanks, I'll check that too :)
12:53.53EthanCentauraifail Fisker-
12:54.52EthanCentauraianyone else having problems updating localisations on WowAce projects?
12:55.05Xinhuanshould ask ck about that one EthanCentaurai
12:55.46EthanCentauraihe's asleep atm >.>
12:56.13EthanCentauraibut ya I'll bug him later
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13:14.20Repo10wishlist: 03XIU * r42 Wishlist.lua: Wishlist:
13:14.22Repo- Show notes
13:14.25Repo- Added shortcut for AddItem (/wl add [ITEM])
13:19.28thulIm not sure I like this yet: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3288/3140586050_17003d97d0_o.png (not mine ofc)
13:19.58nevcairielwtf
13:20.00nevcairielthats ugly
13:20.52sacarascit's bloody massive
13:21.33syerenWell.
13:21.34syerenPVE Is hard.
13:21.42syerenDon't want to overaggro.
13:21.46syerenEspecially as a hunter.
13:21.54syerenWho don't have abilities like Shadowmeld or Feign Death!
13:22.16ZaoWhere's that buff list from?
13:22.18sacarascyeah, i can see that being really hard
13:22.51thulyou evul people :-P
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13:25.50Repo10prat_signon: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.2.3-3-gbbb882b / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
13:25.52Repobbb882b: Fix incorrect Rogue colour (Rogue != Warlock). Thanks Cralor.
13:25.55Repoeaa1eb0: Fix typo.
13:26.44quiescensshadowmeld is hax
13:27.17Xinhuan@project xperl
13:27.19RepoXinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/xperl/. X-Perl UnitFrames. Game: WoW. Zeksie (Manager/Author). Updated: 116 minutes ago. Tickets: 54/88
13:27.38Zeksiemoo?
13:27.58quiescensmoo
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13:32.04thulhmm, I live at a student housing complex. We have a mail-box-room
13:32.28thulon my way in to this room, right now, a very sexy blonde went out, i went in.. and _oh_my_god_ she must have farted so bad.
13:32.35thulit smelled like rotten eggs AND rotten cucumbers at once.
13:34.17thuli need a new unitframe thing I think.
13:35.23EthanCentaurai. o O { blondie farts -> omg new unitframes pl0x }
13:35.33EthanCentauraio...kay
13:35.36thul:-D
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13:44.58Fisker-Zeksie !
13:45.06Zeksiewhat!
13:45.18Xinhuannothing Zeksie
13:45.19Fisker-you are a horrible person :(
13:45.22Xinhuani just wanted a download link ;p
13:45.23Zeksiei know.
13:45.37Zeksiearr
13:48.45Fisker-you are the cancer that's killing me
13:49.25sacarasccontinue, Zeksie
13:50.45Repo10recount: 03Elsia * r968 deletion.lua: Recount:
13:50.48Repo- Still check window visibility if there is no party-based deletion needed.
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13:58.01EthanCentauraickknight: ping
13:58.06ckknightyes?
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13:58.31EthanCentauraiI keep getting a 500 whenever I try to upload some french localisations to SignOn
13:58.57ckknightyou should've pinged me the first time :-P
13:59.21EthanCentauraiI wanted to see if I could find out why before bothering you :P
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14:00.44nevcairielEthanCentaurai: thats why you keep breakign the page
14:01.27ckknight500 means I'm gonna be bothered eventually
14:01.33ckknightI get full stacktraces and everything in that event
14:01.50ckknightproblem's fixed, btw, EthanCentaurai
14:01.52ckknighttry again
14:02.52EthanCentauraigot another 500
14:03.31Xinhuanckknight, can i also bug you about many reports of tagged repos not being synced to curse (from wowace and CF)
14:03.40ckknightnope, Xinhuan
14:03.44ckknightI know about it
14:03.56ckknightcan't do anything until Monday
14:04.04Xinhuanthat is, the zips are all correct on wa/cf, just doesn't sync to curse
14:04.35ckknightright
14:04.37ckknightI'm aware
14:04.45Xinhuanso it'll be fixed on monday yeah?
14:04.59ckknightonce I'm able to tell the devs and have them investigate
14:05.00Xinhuani'll post then
14:05.09ckknightEthanCentaurai: try again
14:05.47Xinhuanwhat about this one ckknight
14:05.49Xinhuanhttp://wow.curseforge.com/projects/saysapped/files/
14:05.59Xinhuanthere's a file there that says " Waiting on project"
14:06.04Xinhuanbut its not on the approval queue
14:06.11Xinhuanto be approved
14:06.17ckknightthat's probably a bug on my end
14:06.34Xinhuanso author's complaining about that one, and i'm here to harass you ;p
14:07.47EthanCentauraicrits WowAce for 500 (freezing).
14:08.03thulach
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14:08.42ckknightthe evil DB issue strikes again
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14:10.01EthanCentauraihides
14:10.28Xinhuanupdate me when you've fixed the SaySapped zip approval issue ;p
14:10.59ckknightthis is recount's doing, EthanCentaurai
14:11.31Xinhuaneeeeeviiiil is eeeeveeeerywheeereee
14:11.39ckknighttrue
14:11.48EthanCentauraiXinhuan give ckk a chance to breathe, he has enough on his plate already :P
14:11.54Xinhuan:P
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14:14.57ckknightXinhuan: fixed
14:15.04Xinhuanok :)
14:18.59Xinhuanckknight, the "last updated" date didn't get updated to Dec 19 though
14:19.56ckknightlast updated for what?
14:20.05Xinhuanhttp://wow.curseforge.com/projects/saysapped/
14:20.07Xinhuanfor the project itself
14:20.15XinhuanLast Update: 26 Jul 2008
14:20.50Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.42 * r166 : RaidBuffStatus:
14:20.53Repo- Tagging for stable.
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14:26.46EthanCentauraiheh... my really long string causes the website to become elongated and ugly: http://www.wowace.com/admin/activities/localization_translation-3016-english-en-us-strings-can-contain-tags-colour-flags/
14:26.59EthanCentauraireally needs to stop breaking things
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14:36.36ckknightEthanCentaurai: I hope you realize you did it wrong.
14:36.41ckknight\n will turn into \\n
14:37.02EthanCentauraifails at everything
14:38.53ckknightyou're _supposed_ to use proper newlines
14:38.53Kuja^err no, not at everything, you probaly not fail at failing *hides*
14:39.45thulYou bloody fool! Think of all the bum and cock fun you could've had!
14:40.27ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/projects/prat_signon/localization/export/
14:40.30ckknightsee, \\n
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14:41.46Fisker-slaps thul around a bit with a large trout
14:42.46EthanCentauraiI've re-imported and now I get \ instead
14:43.45Fisker-I threaten you with slavery and death
14:43.58EthanCentauraisod off Fisker-
14:44.15EthanCentauraithe grownups are talking
14:44.16Fisker-:3
14:44.51Fisker-lol
14:44.54Fisker-delusional much?
14:45.05Fisker-You are neither grownup or talking
14:45.26EthanCentaurais/talking/typing/
14:45.33Fisker-too late
14:47.10nevcairielEthanCentaurai: \ is what you are supposed to get =P
14:47.48Fisker-http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11261-RandomAccessMount.html <-i saw what he did there
15:01.10Xinhuanwow
15:01.12Xinhuanhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14135703868&pageNo=1&sid=1#18
15:01.20XinhuanGhostcrawler mentioned Clique specifically
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15:02.42nevcairielhe said its an example, and said clique-style healing, afterall, it was the first click casting mod
15:02.55Xinhuanyes :)
15:03.20Xinhuanbut hey, its cool to get mentioned so ppl know blizzard ppl do use mods
15:03.22Pneumatusdidnt CastParty exist before Clique?
15:04.38nevcairielall mods before clique sucked, they did a half-assed job, added buttons next to the frames, or so
15:05.15Pneumatuscastparty was around in mid-2005, and had click-casting on both their own frames, other peoples frames (CTRA) and bilzzard frames
15:05.28Pneumatuswas the first click-casting addon i ever used
15:07.12nevcairieli dunno when clique appeared
15:07.17nevcairiela long time ago too
15:07.37nevcairielat the last early 2006
15:07.40nevcairiel*least
15:08.04PneumatusCastParty never had the popularity that Clique has now though
15:08.21Pneumatusand it died for a long time in 2.0 while they sorted their shit out with secure headers
15:10.01rbarreirosg'afternoon
15:10.26Pneumatuslo :P
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15:55.59Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=7373950620&sid=1#19 <-oh oh
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16:08.09PProvostI wonder why people ask those questions in public when they know they don't really want to hear the answer
16:10.09PProvostls
16:10.34ckknightcat /dev/null > PProvost
16:10.59PProvostcd /; rm sbin; halt
16:11.12PProvost:D
16:11.15ckknightstop
16:11.18ckknighthammertime!
16:11.33PProvostAnyone know if the Dalaran achievement books are in GatherMate_Data?
16:11.36PProvostXinhuan?
16:11.56Fisker-don't need that!
16:11.56Fisker-:3
16:12.11many:D
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16:19.29PProvostDone Fisker- ?
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16:35.37Fisker-yeah
16:49.04Industrialok so im trying the curse client
16:49.06IndustrialThank you for trying out our brand new Curse Client! We're excited to offer you access to a limited time preview of our premium features.
16:49.09Industrialwtf is this shit ^
16:49.09Repo10rating-buster: 037destiny * r196 RatingBuster-Locale-koKR.lua: - koKR Update
16:49.59Fisker-it's your mom
16:50.06Industrialdeinstalled!
16:50.10Fisker-Premium = auto-updates and no ads
16:50.10Pneumatusthe clues are in the text
16:51.34Industrialguess theres free ones out there
16:51.37Industrial*search*
16:52.12PneumatusCC _is_ free
16:52.41Industrialof course it is.
16:54.00Fisker-also other clients are ILLEGAL
16:54.01Fisker-:3
16:54.47Industrialyour mom is illegal
16:55.20Industrialhttp requests are http requests, if you start banning I start proxying
16:55.24Industrialsimple.
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16:56.47nevcairielyou want to proxy into this channel as well? :)
16:57.23Lysitheaquick question about dogtags, im trying to get my hp shown in pitbull as: 12.3k -1234(this text in red). Currently I get it as 12.3k1234(in red). How do I get that " -" in there?
16:57.25Industrialyou want to try banning me? :)
16:57.30LysitheaMy attempts fails
16:57.45gixLysithea: insert ' '
16:57.48Pneumatus[0-MissingHP]
16:57.51nevcairielI wouldnt try, i would succeed
16:58.06gixoh there's a -
16:58.14Lysitheayes, and it should be red
16:58.16Industrialand I wouldnt?
16:58.22Lysitheatrying Pneumatus
16:58.46Pneumatuswell, in full [HP:Short " " 0-MissingHP]
16:58.50Pneumatusor something like that
16:59.01Fisker-http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgeHbPjW1ME <-kinda nsfw i guess
16:59.37Industrialold
16:59.46trhFisker-: oh.. you made a video of yourself... cute :P
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17:02.02trhIndustrial: it's not that hard to limit download-requests per time based on session cookie...
17:02.14quiescensblah blah blah
17:02.56quiescensI trust everyone is having a good time trying to outdo each other
17:03.04Industrialnot really
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17:03.14Industrialtrh: changing ip on the fly isnt either!
17:03.57Industrialalso, Fisker-, illegal my ass. show me where it says that and where I signed.
17:03.57trhIndustrial: lol.. ok.. login delay 1-2 seconds before you get the cookie, no cookie = no download
17:04.18nevcairieleats all the cookies
17:04.21nevcairielmmmm cookies!
17:04.30quiescensteh cake is a lie
17:04.37trhbut teh cookie is real!
17:05.02LysitheaPneumatus that one leaves me with a 0 all the time at the end
17:05.10Lysitheaand I fail at getting it to red color
17:05.51Pneumatusim assuming the negative portion you want is HP defecit, if its zero you don't want anything shown?
17:06.20Lysitheaat full hp: 12.3k
17:06.51Lysitheawhen hp is missing: 8.3k -1243
17:07.01Lysitheathe missing hp in red
17:07.26LysitheaI had this done half a year ago and I know I had problems back then aswell
17:07.29Sliker_Hawk[CurHP " - " MissingHP:red]?
17:07.34Sliker_HawkI haven't used dogtags for a while
17:07.50Sliker_Hawkoh, right
17:07.56Sliker_Hawkthat -'ll still be there
17:09.59Pneumatus[MissingHP > 0 ? HP:Short:Red " " 0-MissingHP:Red ! HP:Short:Red]
17:10.00Lysitheasuch a small thing :)
17:10.09Pneumatusthat _might_ work
17:10.29Lysitheanop
17:10.43Lysithea22.2k(in red) 0(inwhite)
17:10.52Sliker_Hawkmaybe.. [CurHP (if MissingHP > 0 ? (" - " MissingHP):red end)]
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17:11.57Sliker_Hawk... I'm mixing if formats there
17:12.06Sliker_Hawkbut you get the idea I think
17:12.10Pneumatus[HP:Short:Red] [MissingHP > 0 ? "-%d":Format(MissingHP):Red]
17:12.10Pneumatus?
17:12.37Lysitheawoo that worked
17:12.51Lysitheaforgot I could have two different [][]
17:12.52Lysithea:(
17:13.03Lysitheathanks alot!
17:13.15Pneumatusyeh, sometimes it makes it more readable using multiple []
17:13.18Pneumatussometimes it doesnt :P
17:13.37Pneumatusyou could do the above in one
17:13.45Lysithea[HP:Short] [MissingHP > 0 ? "-%d":Format(MissingHP):Color('ff7f7f')] should be the same wouldnt?
17:13.53Lysitheathe :red is a litte too red for my taste
17:13.58Pneumatusyeh
17:14.14Pneumatusor Color(1, 0.9, 0.9)
17:14.16Lysitheaah finally
17:14.17Pneumatusor w/e
17:14.36Pneumatusyou know you can test with /dog, right?
17:14.42Lysitheasuch a little thing has kept me occupied for nearly an hour
17:14.54Lysitheanop, I do now
17:15.03Pneumatusevery tag is documented there as well :)
17:15.15EthanCentaurai[HP:Short (if MissingHP > 0 then Concatenate(" " 0 - MissingHP):Red end)]
17:15.23EthanCentauraibah too late :(
17:15.31Camcianyone knows anything about Fraps? whats the option "half-size" and "full-size" ? :p
17:15.50EthanCentauraiCamci: that's the resolution iirc
17:15.56PneumatusEthanCentaurai: missed a :Red on the HP:Short :>
17:16.08Repo10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r46 ZOMGBuffs_Blessings/ZOMGBuffs_Blessings.lua:
17:16.11RepoZOMGBuffs: Changed exception icons in combat to properly fade when people are dead, out of range etc.
17:16.13Camcii see
17:16.30EthanCentauraiI prefer it without the :Red on HP:Short, look nicer imo :P
17:16.52Pneumatusi use '[FractionalHP:Short] [PercentHP:Percent:Paren]', :>
17:17.59EthanCentauraiI was just testing that tag for Lysithea anyway, I use [Status:Red or FractionalHP:HPColor:Hide(0)] otherwise :>
17:18.22Lysitheayeah I dont do hp:short:red either
17:18.25Lysitheajust plain white
17:18.31Lysitheawith the lost hp in reddish color
17:19.04LysitheaI dont know why, but it irked me that I didnt have that little - there
17:19.19Lysitheaguess I've just gotten used to it
17:19.53Pneumatusi never understood why MissingHP was postive anyway
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17:22.05LysitheaI get a feel of how much I need to heal a target in pvp
17:22.32Lysitheasince the hp pools tend to differ quite alot
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17:57.36Xinhuan@project revelation
17:58.26Xinhuan@ping
17:58.26Repopong
17:58.38quiescensstabs xinhuan with a pillow.
17:58.52Xinhuanexplodes in a pile of feathers
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18:02.16AnaralCan anyone else load wowace.com?
18:02.19RepoXinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/revelation/. Revelation. Game: WoW. Torhal (Manager/Author). Updated: 13 hours ago. Tickets: 3/4
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18:02.51quiescensit was xinhuan!
18:04.03KirkburnMorning
18:04.33KirkburnApologies if I've missed something, but I updated my addons this morning with the CC, and pitbull and fubar have gone dead
18:04.45KirkburnWith all sorts of errors to do with LibRock
18:04.57sztanpetinstall librock standalone
18:05.03KirkburnI have
18:05.14Xinhuansounds bad
18:05.28quiescensflee~
18:05.30KirkburnHad it standalone for months (since I used to use WAU)
18:05.48sztanpetand you deleted your addons before installing them with the cc?
18:06.04KirkburnWhy would I want to do that (but yes, basically)
18:06.04manyhad xperl been fixed up already to display DKs runes?
18:06.18Zeksiemany months ago.
18:06.27manyhrm
18:06.32manywhy wouldnt i see them then
18:06.33Zeksiehave to turn it on in player options
18:06.38manyoh
18:06.38KirkburnThe errors are along the lines of "attempt to call method 'NewLibrary' (a nil value)"
18:06.40sztanpetwell then, all i can say is the usual "works for me"
18:06.48manythanks, will look
18:07.02Zeksieshould have defaulted that to on.. can fix that for future i guess ;)
18:08.00manyatleast if player.self.class == DK (or sth like that :)
18:08.00quiescensbut then what will you do about all the dk's complaining about runes showing up for no reason!
18:08.10KirkburnI've gone thru all my CC addons, made it manually reinstall them
18:08.16KirkburnHowever, no change
18:08.19quiescensthey'll all be like, what are these strange icons
18:08.29manyhaha
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18:09.53PneumatusKirkburn: try disabling all your rock addons and enabling them one by one?
18:10.35KirkburnGot it!
18:10.36quiescenshmm
18:10.39quiescenshow tall is gamefontnormalsmall
18:10.49KirkburnOkay, PitBull was set to release type alpha
18:10.54KirkburnAnd all the rest were set to beta
18:11.06quiescensgasp
18:11.07KirkburnNot sure why, but putting PitBull back to the lastest beta fixed them
18:11.24KirkburnAddons are fun :P
18:11.27KirkburnThanks guys :)
18:11.32Pneumatusi thought alpha was still not working anyway :o
18:11.50manyzek: found it. thanks :^)
18:11.51KirkburnPneumatus, well, I'm just going to have to agree :P
18:12.08PneumatusKirkburn: setting it to alpha _was_ just getting the latest beta previously
18:12.17Pneumatusi guess the addon service could finally be providing alphas tho
18:12.22KirkburnAh
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18:29.50Xinhuanwho thinks patch is this tuesday
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18:31.49quiescensshrugs
18:32.03quiescensgo to sleep~
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18:41.49Mikki want patch
18:41.53Mikkbut huntards still sound broken
18:42.39Mikknerf BM/MM, boost Survival up so it does as much damage as BM/MM did. grats.
18:42.39Mikknow you have the best spec for everything including pvp
18:42.39Ackisyay titanium seal of dalaran = mine muhahah
18:42.58Vangualsalty ackis soon?
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18:44.39AckisVangual: prolly not, I need the rare fish (even though I've caught numerous ones already)
18:44.53Vangualeeww
18:45.18Vangualmay the rng be with you then
18:45.22Ackisheh
18:45.38XinhuanAckis
18:45.43Xinhuani'm up to 6325 points ;p
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18:45.50Vangual'tis been so disheartening seing others catch them within 20 catches while i was at 3kish already
18:45.53Xinhuanwith Hero of Shattrath now
18:51.06Xinhuanfuck
18:51.13Xinhuani forgot to buy scryer tabard before i converted to aldor
18:51.14XinhuanSIGH
18:51.24Zyndromelolz :<
18:51.38Zyndromemages soloing military wing ... a guildmate just did
18:51.51Zyndromeor well, Razuvious so far
18:52.01Xinhuani thought its been hotfixed?
18:52.04Zyndromenope
18:52.33Xinhuangonna have to warn him about "exploiting an unintended side-effect" and 72 hour bans then
18:53.06Zyndromeand 2 other guildies are with him, on alts :P
18:53.10Zyndromefree purple pixels
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19:00.26Zyndrome19:46.38 ( Xinhuan ) gonna have to warn him about "exploiting an unintended side-effect" and 72 hour bans then
19:00.29Zyndromeand that has happened? :P
19:00.45Xinhuanwell the mage in the utube video
19:00.51Xinhuan"last updated jan 1st" on wowarmoy
19:01.38TorhalXinhuan: What are you doing with all of your tabards? They still take up inventory space, right?
19:01.47Xinhuani vendor all the ones that can be bought heh
19:01.54TorhalAh
19:01.55TorhalHeh
19:04.55EthanCentauraiWhy? Every time I tag one of my repo's WowAce dies :'(
19:05.32TorhalEthanCentaurai: MySQL hates us all.
19:05.38KilrooI need to figure out which addons I'm going to rip off...
19:05.45Xinhuanon top of that they don't sync to curse too
19:05.46EthanCentauraiYourSQL?
19:06.00TorhalEthanCentaurai: Sorry - OurSQL.
19:06.07EthanCentaurai:P
19:06.08Kilrooand make sure I write down the authors, so that if my addon works I can ask them for permission to release...
19:08.59KilrooOr maybe there's a tutorial I should find on How To Make An Addon That Stores Information And Talks To Itself.
19:09.17KilrooThere's a Clear Vision game out I haven't played though, so that comes first.
19:11.01AckisXinhuan do you use fishing buddy?
19:11.05Xinhuanno
19:11.07Xinhuani fish manually
19:11.22Ackisi just want it for stats tracking
19:11.23Xinhuanwitha modified fishping.wav
19:11.32SkellumI wish there was a way to add a chime in when the fishing bobber bobs
19:11.36Ackisbut it has double click cast/auto loot
19:11.50Ackisbut autoloot isn't working
19:11.58Ackis@project fishingbuddy
19:11.59RepoAckis: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/fishingbuddy/. Fishing Buddy. Game: WoW. Sutorix (Manager/Author). Updated: 5 days ago. Tickets: 3/3
19:12.10Pneumatusfishingbuddy doesnt track though
19:12.33Ackisit's tracking my stats?
19:13.55TorhalMeh. Why did I just have to get into a debate about why I shouldn't support Disenchant in Revelation just so some random guy doesn't need to assign an action bar slot?
19:13.55Pneumatusoh wait, i use fishermansfriend
19:14.16TorhalAckis: I blame you.
19:14.21Pneumatusfishermansfriend doesnt track :)
19:14.22Ackis:(
19:14.32Pneumatusit handles autoloot/clickcasting tho
19:15.21Ackisyah this one is supposed to have auto-loot too
19:15.34Xinhuaninstall both then ;p
19:15.56Pneumatusor fix fishingbuddy? :P
19:16.02Ackistoo lazy to do either
19:16.53Ackisi'll just whine and bitch til Xinhuan fixes it
19:16.53Pneumatusis it breaking regardless, or just with the kaluak pole?
19:16.54Ackisi don't have the kaluak pole
19:18.18Ackisarcanite fishing pole >
19:18.54Xinhuani have yet to win STV comp
19:19.07Ackisif I get the title salty, who wants to pay for me ti rename my tool to bawls/ballz/bawlz ?
19:19.51AckisI won once, would've won twice but I missclicked and feared in BB, got killed by guards and when running back someone turned it in
19:20.00Pneumatusthere's a guy in my guild called Bullz
19:21.52EthanCentauraithere is always... Fishbringer...
19:22.14Xinhuanthere's a warlock in my guild called Chillituna
19:22.19Xinhuandoes 4800 dps
19:23.15Pneumatusi wish stasiscl had a better indexing system :<
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19:23.37Pneumatusand templating
19:23.50Pneumatusand does everything swstats does and more
19:24.03Pneumatusnot that im asking for much
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19:30.38Repo- Remove a duplicate locale entry.
19:30.41Repo- Change versioning to major.minor.revision.
19:30.43Repo- Hard embed LDB *sigh*
19:30.46Repo- Testing no-lib-strip in XML.
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20:03.43Pneumatushmm, im sure theres a way with awk to print multiple args, like print $2- but i can't remember how :<
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20:11.30Ackishttp://battlestations.mobileweapon.net/new.php?invite=Ackis <-- what does that link look like to you?
20:11.38Ackis(game I'm triing out)
20:12.35Primerit looks like you're trying to spam me
20:13.30ckknightSFW: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1231012775226.jpg
20:15.24Primerhahaha nice
20:18.48Skellumhttp://pics.nase-bohren.de/whereisyourgod.jpg
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20:21.14Lysitheaim back again, how do I get this: 22.2k -13444 (currently [HP:Short] [MissingHP > 0 ? "-%d":Format(MissingHP):Color('ff7f7f'):Short]) to 22.2k -13.4k?
20:21.36Lysitheathe last :short isnt working but Im sure it isnt supposed to anyway
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20:37.29ckknightLysithea: :Short before :Color
20:37.52ckknightLysithea: and do :Negate instead of "-%d":Format
20:38.25ckknightLysithea: so you'll want [MissingHP:HideZero:Negate:Short:Color('ff7f7f')]
20:38.29ckknightLysithea: :-)
20:38.36Lysitheatrying it out!
20:39.17Lysitheaunknown on negate
20:39.21Lysitheaand hidezero
20:39.22LysitheaOo
20:39.23Tinyboomckknight: any chance there will be a party module and hide in raid setting soon in pb4? ;)'
20:39.37ckknightTinyboom: I already did the party thing, but no options yet
20:39.41ckknightraid will come eventually
20:39.44ckknightI'm working on config mode now
20:39.49ckknightso that I can do those better
20:39.52Tinyboomdon't want raid:) just hide on raid :)
20:39.55ckknightcause trying to get groups is annoying
20:39.59ckknightah, hrm
20:40.19ckknightyea, it'll wait until after my config mode thing
20:40.31ckknightLysithea: Negate should exist...
20:40.35ckknightLysithea: lemme check
20:40.38Tinyboomkk :) thanks :)
20:40.39Lysitheasays uknown tag
20:40.43Lysitheathis is in pitbull3.0 btw
20:41.08ckknight(no difference)
20:41.09ckknightokay
20:41.13ckknighthere's what you do instead
20:41.26ckknight[-MissingHP:Hide(0):Short:Color('ff7f7f')]
20:41.32Repo10button-bin: 03dhedbor * r58 ButtonBin.lua:
20:41.35Repo- Fixed issue with centered bins if the bin icon was shown (oops).
20:41.37Repo- Added option to set use a custom icon texture and name for the bin icon display.
20:42.07Lysitheadoesnt seem like it shortens the lost health
20:42.11ckknightTinyboom: do me a favor?
20:42.11Lysitheawill check with higher value
20:42.14Lysitheagotta find a cloff
20:42.25ckknightTinyboom: make a ticket for the hide party in raid thing
20:42.54XinhuanDiao around?
20:43.16Lysitheathe lost health is still in 1234 not 1.2
20:43.47Diaohm?
20:44.13Xinhuanis your account still active
20:44.37Diaoyeah, i renewed like 2 weeks ago
20:44.46Xinhuanare you free to make some gold? ;p
20:44.56Diaolol
20:44.57Diaosuer
20:44.58Diaosure*
20:45.04Xinhuani'll PM u on irc
20:45.39ckknightwait
20:45.42ckknightgold...
20:45.49ckknightXinhuan's Chinese...
20:46.01ckknightI'm catching on to your scheme, Xinhuan!
20:46.09ckknight(P.S. can I buy some gold?)
20:46.17Lysitheackknight Im not getting the :short to work anywhere :/
20:46.28ckknightLysithea: hrm...
20:46.40Xinhuanlol
20:46.44ckknightLysithea: I think short only works with like >= 10000
20:46.47ckknightlemme check
20:47.07Lysitheaah
20:47.09ckknightyea, at 10000, it goes to 10k
20:47.10Lysitheayeah
20:47.10Lysitheaworks
20:47.16ckknightLysithea: you seen /dog
20:47.17ckknight?
20:47.19ckknightin-game
20:47.21LysitheaI just happened to fall for 9xxx the first time
20:47.22ckknighttype it
20:47.36ckknight:VeryShort will work if you want it >= 1000
20:48.14Lysitheayeah that works
20:48.14Lysitheathanks
20:51.42Lysitheaoh, this is wierd, omnicc seems to put cooldown text on my pitbull auras
20:52.05Lysitheanot on myself or target but on party members
20:52.08Lysitheahrm
20:52.16Vangualmake them smaller again?
20:52.29ThraeLysithea: That's the estimated time your party's Paladin will turn off the aura and forget to re-apply it.
20:53.45Lysitheathere's a reason I got my debuffs as quite a large icon tho, never happened pre 3.0
20:53.49Vangualomnicc puts its cooldowns onto cooldown models that are of a certain size and don't have the property to forbid the behaviour
20:54.09Lysitheaguessing something changed with auras in 3.0+?
20:54.52Vangualdunno, the omnicc behaviour hasn't changed at least
20:55.37Lysitheaah
20:55.44LysitheaI can change the minimum scale in omnicc
20:55.57Lysitheato the breakingpoint of my barbuttons
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20:57.41Vangualprolly a good idea to put the option of disallowing omnicc on the new pb4 aura module, much like I give the option in the totem module
21:01.58AKXDear #wowace, what's the cooldown counter mod de jour?
21:02.58AKXIe. I'd like to have numbers on my action buttons.
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21:04.08Xinhuanomnicc
21:04.23AKXDanke.
21:04.56AKXIs there still a (wiki?) page with "Ace mods by purpose"?
21:07.24AKXAnd what's the cast bar mod de jour?
21:07.41Trell-Quartz imo
21:07.44Trell-I still love it.
21:07.50AKXfffff
21:07.54AKXWhy had I forgotten Quartz?!
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21:08.03TorhalAKX: AddOn Overload.
21:08.03AKX.. The Curse client needs better search. ._.
21:09.01Trell-AKX; http://www.wowace.com/projects/
21:09.01Trell-its not a list of 'by purpose' but it's good enough
21:09.16Trell-only 44 pages to scroll through, have fun!
21:09.32AKXYeah, Trell-, I just remember there once was a page with like, "What do you need?" and you could just ctrl+f there...
21:09.41XinhuanAKX; http://www.wowace.com/
21:09.43ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/categories/
21:09.46Xinhuansee the bottom right categorization?
21:10.05AKXYeees. But it's not quite the same. :P
21:10.20AKXBut I'm glad there's great support here!
21:10.24AKXhands out free hugs.
21:10.28ckknightI need to unify the project index and category details pages...
21:10.31ckknightmeh
21:10.49ckknightsince category details is just a filter on the project index
21:10.57RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/eggtimer/. EggTimer. jokeyrhyme (Manager/Author). Approved by Xinhuan.
21:10.57ckknightAKX: good times.
21:11.52Repo10broker_ankhtimer: 03Millel * r9 Core.lua:
21:11.55RepoMajor changes how to detect that the Reincarnation spell was used to reserect.
21:12.26Xinhuan"Mit diesem Addon könnt Ihr (wenn es fertig ist) Eure eigenen Quests erstellen und mit anderen Spielern austauschen. "
21:12.30Xinhuancan someone translate that
21:12.37Xinhuan~x de en Mit diesem Addon könnt Ihr (wenn es fertig ist) Eure eigenen Quests erstellen und mit anderen Spielern austauschen.
21:13.07Xinhuanhmm i need a better translation ;p
21:13.25Stanzillalolz
21:13.34TorhalWith this Addon can provide and with other players exchange it (if it is finished) your own Quests.
21:13.56Xinhuansounds like an addon i should reject
21:14.09Stanzillasounds like a roleplaying project
21:14.17Stanzillawhere you can create your own quests
21:14.21TorhalSounds like the Author should use English on WoWAce.
21:14.22Stanzillaand let other people do them
21:14.23XinhuanKaelten, whats the procedure with addons that aren't in english
21:14.24Stanzillashould be ok
21:14.43Kaeltenthey must have an english description
21:14.52Kaeltenor a english portion to the description
21:15.04ckknightyea, the top part should be English.
21:15.05Xinhuanthis one doesn't, so i delete right away?
21:15.10ckknightno, Xinhuan
21:15.15Stanzillajust PM him
21:15.15ckknightmark as changes required
21:15.19Stanzillato provide one
21:15.23XinhuanAh i see a "not in english" option
21:15.28Xinhuanthere didn't used to be one
21:15.29ckknightright.
21:15.32ckknightyea, I added it
21:15.42Kaeltenya sends a prebuilt message
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21:16.06Xinhuanalso you are right Stanzilla, its under the 'Roleplay' category
21:16.13TorhalKaelten: What do I need to do to provide "sets" to OneBag in a plugin?
21:16.14Stanzilla:)
21:16.36TorhalI'd like to have filters for things such as tradeskills, gear, also by quality.
21:16.37KaeltenI need to rework the plugin stuff
21:16.40TorhalAh, ok.
21:16.51Xinhuanyou know
21:16.57Xinhuani'm not very sure about all this, in that
21:17.00Kaeltenthere is a design flaw
21:17.01Xinhuanwe can approve lots of projects
21:17.09Xinhuanbut 70% of these addons will be failures
21:17.19Xinhuanis this really what we want?
21:17.34ckknightXinhuan: it's hard to gauge...
21:17.56Vangualmake a seperate abandoned timespan for new addons?
21:18.10Xinhuanyou see, difference on wowi is that, you need a "completed addon" to upload, so mods can see what it is
21:18.18Xinhuanwhile here, you start with nothing
21:18.29ckknightI like starting with a repo
21:18.29Xinhuanbut just a description of what is to come
21:18.41ckknightbut I've kinda proven myself
21:18.43ckknightso I dunno
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21:19.06Xinhuanalso, i don't think the wowace FAQs are making it clear enough wowace doesn't allow zip uploads
21:19.18Xinhuanthat is, it only allows svn/git/hg
21:19.20Cryectpeople upload zips to the repos?
21:19.29Xinhuancurseforge allows it Cryect
21:19.36CryectIf they want to upload zips they could goto curse?
21:19.45Xinhuanyes
21:19.47Stanzilla^
21:19.52Xinhuanbut the faq doesn't really say they can't do it on wowace
21:19.57Cryectoh
21:20.44CryectYou are so optimistic to think 30% of the addons won't be failures :-p
21:20.47Xinhuanhttp://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/getting-started-with-wow-ace/
21:21.19Xinhuani think that needs a probable update that only zips can be uploaded on curseforge
21:21.44Xinhuanand lol, all the links on that knowledge base goes to beta.wowace.com
21:21.49Xinhuan(which is redirected)
21:21.53Cryectheh
21:23.29Xinhuanguess i'll edit it ;p
21:24.20Repo10broker_garbagefu: 03LordFarlander * r20 Broker_GarbageFu.lua: Broker_GarbageFu
21:24.22Repo- Small fix for misused AddCell call
21:25.46Repo10broker_garbagefu: 03LordFarlander 043.0.21-beta * r21 : Tagging as 3.0.21-beta
21:26.22RepoKnowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/getting-started-with-wow-ace/ by Xinhuan
21:26.51Xinhuanheh
21:27.06Hell-Razoranybody know if theres an addon that saves all the settings for your addons so its universal for each char?
21:27.29XinhuanHell-Razor, not even remotely possible ;p
21:27.38Xinhuangiven that just about every addon stores data differently
21:27.42Hell-Razorauh
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21:31.33Xinhuanckknight
21:31.56ckknighthowdy, Xinhuan
21:31.56Xinhuan#@no-lib-strip@ in TOC files only works once
21:32.03ckknighthrm
21:32.08ckknightthat's a bug, then
21:32.11Xinhuanthat is, it doesn't work on subsequent #@no-lib-strip@ blocks that are defined
21:32.23Xinhuani was just looking in my omen.toc in the nolib zip
21:32.27Xinhuanand just noticed it
21:32.48ckknighthrm, that's odd
21:32.53ckknightit should...
21:33.08Torhalckknight: StormFX discovered that it works fine in XML files, though.
21:33.16ckknightwhich is even weirder
21:33.25Xinhuanhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/omen-threat-meter/files/124-v3-0-5-3-g8cdf4fa-nolib/
21:33.33Xinhuanyou can grab that zip and view the toc in winrar ;p
21:33.57ckknightokay, it says it's stripping libraries
21:33.58ckknightbut doesn't
21:34.00ckknightwtf
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21:34.54ckknightfixed.
21:35.04ckknightXinhuan: next zip you make will be right
21:35.08Xinhuanok
21:35.17Xinhuansilly error i assume?
21:35.26ckknightI forgot to pass in an arg
21:35.32ckknightit calls itself recursively
21:35.39ckknightso after the first one, it calls itself again to do the next replace
21:35.42ckknightuntil it can't find anymore
21:35.46ckknightit didn't pass in the prefixer
21:35.50Torhalckknight: Then why did it work in XML?
21:35.52TorhalWeird.
21:35.57ckknightTorhal: cause XML doesn't have a prefixer
21:36.02TorhalAh
21:36.03ckknightonly TOC files
21:39.24RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/calendar_broker/. Calendar Broker. LordFarlander (Manager/Author). Approved by Xinhuan.
21:39.28RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/mystatus/. MyStatus. adriweb (Manager/Author). Approved by Xinhuan.
21:39.29Zyndromeand my guildmate mage just killed four horsemen heroic
21:39.38Zyndromegg
21:40.33ZyndromeI call bullshit on my guildies saying its intended
21:42.23Repo10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 3cc0d5a / (17 files in 14 directories): [+1 commit] add initial config mode support. This doesn't show hidden frames, but it will show icons and bars that wouldn't normally exist. Note: there is an outward-facing API for config mode for addons like NShakedown.
21:43.09ckknightXinhuan: imo, I would've set that last addon as changes required
21:43.19ckknight"Learn how to spell 'enemy'"
21:43.35Xinhuanpossibly, but the description seemed decent enough, i sent the rest back with "better descriptions needed"
21:43.38ckknight:-P
21:43.39ckknightokay
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21:44.18ckknightwell, at least we can be more strict with libs and such
21:44.23ckknightno new libs without working code and docs
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22:11.17EthanCentauraiHow much suffering does it take before I lose my grace...
22:11.20Repo10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * c51840e / (5 files in 4 directories): [+3 commits]
22:11.23Repoc51840e: rename :HandleFontString to :AddFontString
22:11.25Repo31b9fb0: make DogTagTexts module show [Name of Text] if the guid is nil and force_show is true.
22:11.28Repocfcfc08: make the frames show in config mode.
22:11.29ckknightEthanCentaurai: lots
22:11.37ckknightlots and lots.
22:11.47ckknightgl with the suffering
22:11.57EthanCentauraisuffers well
22:13.46Repo10prat_signon: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.2.4-2-g0b9fe37 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
22:13.48Repo0b9fe37: Add AceLocale-3.0 to .pkgmeta file.
22:13.51Repo653a627: Export enUS translations from the WowAce Localiser.
22:19.48onaforeignshoreis there an event(s) that fires when you open Interface -> AddOns and/or Ace3 Config?
22:23.53Torhalonaforeignshore: Verified the tradeskill-levelling bug. Currently investigating :)
22:24.07TorhalI managed to get two off before it stopped, though. Timing I suppose.
22:24.55onaforeignshoreTorhal: I have had 2 or more items created then the moment you level it stops dead
22:25.39TorhalMy first aid was 375...I managed two bandages (to 377) before it stopped. I should have made four.
22:25.54TorhalSo I guess I got lucky to get the other off
22:33.14RondoGetting a bug in Pitbull where the blizzard party and player frames are unhidden but dont show any portrait after a D/C and to unhide them again gotta go to pitbull config and check/uncheck those options
22:34.41ckknightRondo: PitBull3?
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22:37.11Repo10buffinformant: 03akazik * r11 Locale.lua: - changed localization
22:38.33Repo10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * a4f02fc / (6 files in 6 directories): [+4 commits]
22:38.36Repoa4f02fc: disable portrait module by default. Make the unit frame smaller by default.
22:38.46Repo57a8a5b: Get VoiceIcon working in config mode
22:38.49Repoa2c416b: make ComboPoints show in config mode
22:38.52Repoacefade: make CombatText show in config mode
22:38.54Pneumatusckknight: is there going to be a dogtag-4 seeing as your re-coding for performance?
22:38.54Repo10buffinformant: 03akazik 04v3.0-12 * r12 : Tagging as v3.0-12
22:39.03ckknightPneumatus: probably not for a while
22:39.05Pneumatusor are you happy with DT-3 performance?
22:39.10ckknightI'm not happy with it
22:39.20ckknightdoesn't mean I think that warrants a new lib
22:39.31ckknightI'd rather fix up what exists
22:39.41ckknightbut that is dependent on whether I get around to it or not
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22:45.43onaforeignshoreis there an event(s) that fires when you open Interface -> AddOns and/or Ace3 Config?
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22:47.20Pneumatusnothing apparent on devtools
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22:48.12thulI won a price a the firm's winterparty
22:48.13Gnarfoz<Zyndrome> and my guildmate mage just killed four horsemen heroic <-- someone must have been watching warcraftmovies lately ^^
22:48.30Zyndromewell yeah
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22:52.06Xinhuanckknight, lots of tickets on old projects that are "working perfectly" from the authors but the project was auto-abandoned by wowace
22:52.30ckknightbecause it was pre-3.0 without updates for 2 months
22:52.33ckknightthey can unabandon them
22:52.42ckknightand I think Ackis made an announcement
22:52.58Xinhuanthey apparently can't i think, or they wouldn't ticket in asking how to unabandon right? ;p
22:53.16Xinhuannot sure on that one
22:53.17Xinhuananyhow
22:53.22Xinhuan"I noticed that this is marked as abandoned, but it just didn't need any attention as it works as intended. How can I prevent projects from becoming stale? "
22:54.13Repo10dkfight: 03viisual * r8 / (4 files in 1 directory):
22:54.16RepoUpdated config screen descriptions, fixed some default settings.
22:54.23nevcairielsoon, patience :)
22:54.44ckknightby upgrading your toc, or just editing the top file to say that it works with 3.0
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22:55.57Xinhuanthere is a ticket from a person asking for his wowace account to be deleted
22:56.00Xinhuanwhat do i do with that one
22:56.17Xinhuanhttp://www.wowace.com/admin/reports/440-users_user-ssveller/
22:56.22ckknightah, yea
22:56.24Xinhuan"Could you please delete this account altogether? I no longer use it whatsoever and the notifications are filling up my inbox. I don't really want to go to 10+ project pages to unsubscribe. "
22:56.27ckknightyou leave it up to torment Kaelten
22:56.36Xinhuan^
22:56.44Xinhuanlol
22:57.13Rondockknight: whatever the latest one is]
22:57.26ckknightRondo: probably not, there's two pitbulls currently.
22:57.35Rondockknight: let mecheck
22:57.40ckknightRondo: in any event, it's probably 3.0
22:57.57ckknightRondo: at which point, my suggestion is to wait until PitBull 4.0 is released, since 3.0 isn't getting any active development
22:57.59Rondohow do i check the version?
22:58.15ckknightyou have 3.0
22:58.17Rondook
22:58.57Rondoa guildie of mine was also wondering whether its possible to script public/officer notes
22:59.11Rondoas in , set them using scripts so you can click a macor
22:59.25ckknightyes, it's possible
23:02.56Repo10buttonfacade_serenity: 03StormFX * r34 / (6 files in 3 directories):
23:02.59Repo- Added two versions with equip-colored borders, per request.
23:03.02Repo- Fixed a typo.
23:03.04Repo- Fixed the Highlight texture for Square. It was backwards. o.O
23:03.06Repo- Updated the version.
23:05.09Repo10recount: 03Elsia * r969 / (3 files in 1 directory): Recount:
23:05.12Repo- Various fixes and optimizations to group based collection/visibility code. Should fix the bug of window not showing/hiding when joining groups under certain circumstances.
23:06.17Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r3 .pkgmeta: add LibQTip to the externals
23:07.27Repo10buttonfacade_serenity: 03StormFX 043.0.34 * r35 : Tagging as 3.0.34
23:07.56ckknighthey
23:08.02ckknightwho wants to talk about stuff that might affect you?
23:08.12ckknight@localization(language="enUS", format="lua_additive_table", table_name="L")@
23:08.25ckknighthow does that seem as a keyword dealy to stick into your lua?
23:08.34ckknightit'd expand to a bunch of L["blah"] = "Blah" stuff
23:08.52Zhinjioperfect.
23:08.53Repo10calendar_broker: 03LordFarlander * r2 / (11 files in 3 directories): Calendar_Broker:
23:08.56Repo- Initial 3.0 checkin
23:08.59Repo- GEM3 initial support
23:08.59ckknightor, as an alternative:
23:09.02Repo- Calendar info from WoW calendar and GEM3
23:09.11ckknight@localization(language="enUS", format="lua_table")@
23:09.21ckknightwhich would expand to { ["blah"] = "Blah" }
23:09.49ckknightthere might be other kwargs to specify in the kwarg list, but they'd be optional for the most part.
23:09.49vhaarrckknight: wrapped in a lua comment I assume?
23:09.49vhaarror after a ##
23:09.55ZhinjioI will use the table_name thinger.
23:09.59Zhinjioso I like that format, for certain
23:10.00Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r4 .pkgmeta: Correct LibQTip external
23:10.03ckknightvhaarr: lemme pastey what I have
23:10.21ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/paste/84/
23:10.26vhaarrckknight: ye we need to be able to specify the table name, I don't use "L" always
23:10.37Zhinjionods. right.
23:10.39Zhinjio^^
23:10.44ckknighthow's that code seem?
23:11.00vhaarrcomplicated
23:11.01ckknightsince AceLocale-3.0 barfs on non-existant locales, I can't use that to dev with
23:11.24ckknightactually, it shouldn't be non-alpha
23:11.25vhaarrthat code is commented/uncommented by the release script?
23:11.26ckknightit should be non-debug
23:11.29ckknightyes
23:11.46ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/paste/85/
23:12.20ckknightalternatively, you could make your TOC/xml load different files
23:12.24Xinhuanhow will you deal with the esES and esMX thing i talked about yesterday
23:12.35ckknightXinhuan: we don't have esMX on wowace as it stands
23:12.52Xinhuanyou remember how i pasted local L = (blahblah esES) or (blahblah esMX) yeah?
23:12.55ckknightyea
23:13.01ckknightyou'd have to do that
23:13.04Repo10calendar_broker: 03LordFarlander * r3 .pkgmeta: Calendar_Broker:
23:13.06Repo- When commiting .pkgmeta it helps to have package-as: set right
23:13.34Zhinjioat least he didn't name it Broker_Calendar_Fu this time.
23:13.39ckknightlol.
23:13.49Xinhuanso
23:13.58Xinhuanif you can allow us to specify the
23:14.03Xinhuan1. table name (default L)
23:14.17Xinhuan2. a lua header to include (which can be any lua valid code)
23:14.21ckknight(1) is already done
23:14.25Xinhuan3. a lua footer to include (which can be any lua valid code)
23:14.27ckknight(2) why?
23:14.30ckknight(3) why?
23:14.40Xinhuanbecause soemtimes we need to do locale specific stuff
23:14.42vhaarrckknight: looks good but should be consistent about word separators, "-", "_" or camelCase, stick with one, and also it shouldn't be language="enUS", it should be locale="enUS", and try to make stuff short, like "table" instead of "table_name"
23:14.54Repo10calendar_broker: 03LordFarlander 043.0.4-beta * r4 : Tagging as 3.0.4-beta
23:14.54Xinhuanin the locale file
23:15.06ckknightXinhuan: but it's unnecessary
23:15.12ckknightXinhuan: you get it inherently
23:15.19ckknightXinhuan: did you even see my paste?
23:15.24ckknightvhaarr: okay.
23:15.28Xinhuanyes
23:15.32vhaarralso I don't see what's with the "--[===["
23:15.37vhaarrwhat's wrong with --[[ ?
23:15.38RaydenUwow
23:15.46RaydenUthere really aren't that many good leatherworking patterns
23:15.57Xinhuanwhat i'll like to probably see is lines 11-16 being auto-generated
23:16.07ckknightvhaarr: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/repository-keyword-substitutions/#w_debug-replacements
23:16.09Xinhuanand lines 1-8 in a "lua header" as suggested in (2)
23:16.15vhaarrckknight: people have difficulty spelling localization, you could make the key @l10n, for example
23:16.24ckknight...no
23:16.28vhaarryes you could
23:16.30ckknightthey can learn to spell
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23:16.33ckknightsorry
23:16.41ckknightor copy-paste from examples
23:16.45vhaarrl10n is shorter as well
23:16.51vhaarrno reason not to use it
23:16.59ckknight...because it's inconsistent and pointless for the most part
23:17.14vhaarrI disagree, and you don't make a strong case against it
23:17.27Xinhuanwhat if i need 2 locale tables?
23:17.36nevcairielif "shorter" and "user-stupidity" are your arguments, its not very strong either =P
23:17.40nevcairielXinhuan: DIY
23:17.46vhaarror just 2x @l10n ?
23:17.56vhaarrit's not about stupidity, it's about convenience
23:18.17Xinhuanexample: gathermate uses 2 locale tables
23:18.17ckknightanother possibility: http://www.wowace.com/paste/86/
23:18.27vhaarrwhen I edit in a tty I don't have endless screen realestate either
23:18.34XinhuanL[] for translations, and NL[] for node translations
23:18.46ckknightXinhuan: we currently don't support that on the site, but namespaces may be added later.
23:18.56ckknightXinhuan: at which point, I'd add a namespace kwarg.
23:19.30ckknightvhaarr: I'm not making an alias for you to save 8 characters because you can't scroll
23:20.10vhaarrI'm not asking for an alias, l10n can replace "localization" completely, but fuck it then
23:20.32nevcairielyou are silly for arguing about the name of they keyword
23:20.42Zhinjiorecommendations for a broker reputation addon? Or should I just write one
23:20.55vhaarryou are silly for calling me names when I offer my comments
23:21.14ckknightI'm not calling you names, but I'm telling you I don't buy your arguments.
23:21.40vhaarrwasn't talking to you
23:22.10Xinhuananother argument for a "lua header" is to include a header such as "Localization file for Blah addon" and can also include any copyright stuff (although you mentioned its public domain)
23:22.31ckknightXinhuan: this is in your repo, you can make whatever you want
23:22.38ckknightthis won't be part of the website
23:23.24Xinhuanoh so the app doesn't auto generate files?
23:23.39ckknightyou can export
23:23.42Xinhuani'm under the impression you are generating a file ;p
23:23.58Xinhuanthat gets include directly
23:24.00ckknightno, I'm talking about having a keyword to put in your lua
23:24.14ckknightsince I don't wanna deal with exporting
23:24.19ckknightbecause of laziness
23:24.20ckknight~laziness
23:24.21purlLAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer.
23:24.26Xinhuanthat means it won't really work if users svn checkout directly?
23:25.05ckknightthat's what the development.lua file is for
23:25.09ckknightbut no
23:25.19ckknightusers should be using zips for the most part
23:25.33Xinhuandevelopment.lua?
23:25.43ckknightif they use svn/git/hg, it's assumed they're either power testing or developing themseles
23:25.45ckknightthemselves*
23:26.11ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/paste/87/
23:26.34ckknightenUS.lua: http://www.wowace.com/paste/88/
23:26.48Xinhuani know i can be asking much, but if 10 features, 1 gets implemented, it'll still be a better wowace ;p
23:26.58onaforeignshorenow to learn how to use wowace to host an addon lol
23:27.02ckknightload.xml: http://www.wowace.com/paste/89/
23:27.09onaforeignshore(as well as choose a license type)
23:27.15ckknightonaforeignshore: *thumbs up*
23:27.31ckknightonaforeignshore: remember to make your addon worthwhile, have a good description, and we might approve it
23:27.39ckknightwe get to be picky.
23:28.08ckknightXinhuan: yea, :-)
23:28.20ckknightdamn, I should eat something
23:28.45Stanzillawaves with his Schnitzelsemmel
23:28.46Stanzilla:D
23:29.06Xinhuanwhats a Schnitzelsemmel
23:29.10Xinhuan~x de en Schnitzelsemmel
23:29.11ckknightI don't know
23:29.14ckknightbut I totally want on
23:29.15ckknightone*
23:29.27ckknighthttp://images.google.com/images?client=opera&rls=en&q=Schnitzelsemmel&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&um=1&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=1&ct=title
23:29.30ckknightit looks delicious.
23:29.32Stanzillahttp://www.brotzeitlieferdienst.de/shop/images/products/Schnitzelsemmel.jpg
23:29.34Stanzilla:D
23:30.44ZhinjioStanzilla: *drool*
23:31.25ckknightnevcairiel: hmm
23:31.31ckknightnevcairiel: could I request an AceLocale-3.0 feature?
23:31.45ckknightsome way to have a "dummy" locale, not register anything, and not have any errors?
23:31.48onaforeignshoreso it's a pounded and breaded piece of fried meat on a bun? :P
23:32.03ckknightonaforeignshore: schnitzel is delicious. do not say otherwise.
23:32.41onaforeignshoreckknight: was there any level of judgement in that sentence? :p
23:32.42Zhinjioactually, I'm drooling more over the bread than the schnitzel
23:32.52ckknightonaforeignshore: yes?
23:33.02ZhinjioDO NOT BELITTLE THE SCHNITZEL.
23:33.04ZhinjioAhem.
23:33.12onaforeignshorethought it was only a description... my mistake :p
23:33.19ckknightonaforeignshore: :-P
23:33.34onaforeignshoreany suggestions on a licence to use?
23:33.41Aiianebtw ckknight
23:33.46ckknightyes, Aiiane?
23:33.50ckknightonaforeignshore:
23:34.00Aiianeif you use the arrow keys to go up/down in the actions box for file approval
23:34.04ckknightonaforeignshore: I tend to go All Rights Reserved (if I'm feeling that way), or MIT
23:34.07Aiianeit won't show/hide the textbox properly
23:34.11ckknightAiiane: lame
23:34.23ckknightAiiane: I blame jQuery
23:34.39Fisker-blames ckknight
23:34.58ckknightonaforeignshore: I'm not a fan of the GPL variants. I tend to either want lots of freedom or practically none.
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23:37.59Aiianethe libpng one isn't bad either
23:38.34Aiianeit can be nice since it requires attribution
23:38.47Aiianeor more specifically, requires someone else not try to take credit
23:39.28ckknightMIT requires attribution
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23:40.12Aiianenot beyond the copyright notice
23:40.43Aiianeat least, the copy of MIT you have listed on CF doesn't state anything about that
23:40.56ckknightright
23:41.01ckknightbut that inherently means attribution
23:41.05ckknighthow does libpng differ?
23:41.14onaforeignshorehttp://www.opensource.org/licenses/zlib-license.html
23:41.22onaforeignshoreshort and sweet and to the point
23:41.28Aiianelibpng specifically states you can't misrepresent theorigin
23:41.31onaforeignshorehttp://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php
23:41.44onaforeignshoreI like libpng
23:41.55ckknight*shrug*
23:41.56ckknightyour choice
23:42.08ckknightjust realize what you're getting into
23:42.21ckknightsomeone could take your mod, host it somewhere you don't want, and you can't do anything
23:42.29ckknightor do something you don't want done to it
23:42.31ckknightand such.
23:42.37Xinhuanckknight, the commit hook would probably reject http://www.wowace.com/paste/88/ ;p
23:42.46Xinhuanas uncompilable lol
23:42.46ckknightooh, dang
23:42.49ckknightyou're right
23:42.51ckknighthrm
23:43.23ckknightwell, wrap it in --[===[@non-debug@, then
23:43.55onaforeignshoreckknight: none of the licenses prohibit that, do they?
23:44.14ckknightonaforeignshore: no open source license prohibits that, as it goes against the open source definition
23:44.20onaforeignshoreas long as the copyright notise is intact
23:44.23ckknightfor that, you pretty much need All Rights Reserved
23:44.46ckknightor a non-OS variant of an OS license
23:45.09onaforeignshorewell, I'll just make it public domain
23:45.23onaforeignshoreif they want my crap code, let them have it :p
23:45.27Hell-Razorthere goes tichondrious
23:45.49ckknightthat works.
23:45.51TorhalZhinjio: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11020-BrokerFactions.html
23:46.05ZhinjioTorhal: downloaded already, haven't reloaded yet though
23:46.08ckknightI prefer MIT over PD because of attribution, but I have done PD stuff before
23:46.16ZhinjioTorhal: NOT CLICKABLE *cry*
23:47.42onaforeignshoreI'm using The zlib/libpng License
23:47.42XinhuanTorhal, revelation still "disables itself" somehow after a while where alt-click does nothing
23:49.36Torhalscratches his head.
23:49.52Aiianejust a note, public domain != open source
23:49.57onaforeignshoreI know
23:50.01Aiianek ;)
23:51.39ckknightactually, PD falls under the domain of open source, since with PD, you're awarded all the freedoms the OSD specifies
23:52.53Xinhuanok Torhal, alt-clicking on paperdoll works (why?) but alt-clicking on bag items doesn't
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23:54.53Xinhuanhmmmm
23:55.00Xinhuani think i know why
23:55.59Xinhuanfunction Auctionator_ContainerFrameItemButton_OnModifiedClick (button)
23:56.21Xinhuanif (AUCTIONATOR_ENABLE_ALT == 0 or not AuctionFrame:IsShown() or not IsAltKeyDown()) then
23:56.21Xinhuanreturn auctionator_orig_ContainerFrameItemButton_OnModifiedClick (button);
23:56.25Xinhuangrr
23:58.07Xinhuanok torhal mystery solved
23:58.24Aiianewhat's purl's translate command again
23:58.27XinhuanAuctionator sets up hooks when Blizzard_AuctionUI loads
23:58.46Xinhuanand it doesn't pass on the ALT key to revelation
23:58.52Aiianenvm
23:59.14Xinhuanhence i'm getting a "it works sometimes" and "it doesn't work soemtimes" dependant on whether i visted the AH or not

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