| 00:00.41 | Shefki | ckknight: whacky frames update on a 0.2 timer? |
| 00:00.49 | ckknight | lemme check |
| 00:01.20 | ckknight | 0.15 seconds, Shefki |
| 00:01.30 | Shefki | ckknight: Because I'm kinda losing my mind wondering why targettarget is updating auras so much and then I realized I bet it's a whack and firing that way. |
| 00:01.39 | ckknight | it is. |
| 00:01.57 | Shefki | Phew ok, then I didn't screw anything up and make some sort of weird loop. |
| 00:02.03 | ckknight | every target+ is except player's target. |
| 00:02.21 | Fisker- | can danes participate? :3 |
| 00:02.33 | Shefki | Well it's building the aura frames now, need to write the layout code so they actually show up somewhere. |
| 00:02.36 | ckknight | Fisker-: if you know one of the locales of WoW such as German |
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| 00:02.57 | ckknight | raid is fine, party is fine, partypet is fine, player, pet, target, focus, and mouseover are fine, everything else is wacky |
| 00:03.46 | Shefki | As of right now the only event Aura watches itself is UNIT_AURA and it depends upon UpdateFrame firing for everything else. |
| 00:03.48 | nevcairiel | you actually get events for partypet? |
| 00:05.03 | Fisker- | baw ckknight :( |
| 00:05.11 | ckknight | nevcairiel: you sure do |
| 00:05.23 | ckknight | Shefki: that's perfectly fine. |
| 00:05.43 | Repo | 10gem-helper: 03Xinhuan * r74 / (7 files in 1 directory): |
| 00:05.45 | Repo | Add code to handle Jewelcrafting tradeskill links (from other players in chat). |
| 00:05.48 | Repo | Optimized code to search and filter faster. |
| 00:05.49 | Shefki | I'm going to leave out the CLEU parsing for now. I'm not even sure why we ever had it. |
| 00:06.39 | Groktar | any germans in here? |
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| 00:07.06 | Repo | 10shoutout: 03Toirealach * r20 Locales/Strings-enGB.lua: changing name of strings file |
| 00:07.36 | Repo | 10shoutout: 03Toirealach * r21 Locales/Strings-enGB.lua: not working WTF |
| 00:07.50 | Repo | 10shoutout: 03Toirealach * r22 Locales/ShoutOut-enUS.lua: not working WTF |
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| 00:08.24 | ckknight | Shefki: CLEU parsing? |
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| 00:09.32 | Shefki | Combat Log Even Unfiltered. |
| 00:09.50 | Shefki | The old Aura module looked for those events and forced aura updates when auras changed based on that. |
| 00:09.52 | NeoTron | I love the commit messages from Toirealach |
| 00:10.06 | ckknight | Shefki: hrm |
| 00:10.17 | ckknight | Shefki: well, here's what I think you could do that could be cool |
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| 00:10.31 | ckknight | make things guid-based instead of unit-based |
| 00:10.38 | ckknight | I dunno, though |
| 00:10.49 | ckknight | not sure if that's necessary |
| 00:11.07 | Shefki | I don't see what the advantage would really be. |
| 00:11.11 | Repo | 10shoutout: 03Toirealach * r23 ShoutOut.toc: |
| 00:11.13 | Repo | trying to fix this weird commit problem, I fucking HATE all version control systems including SVN |
| 00:11.17 | ckknight | Shefki: yea, me either |
| 00:11.23 | ckknight | was just talking out loud |
| 00:11.38 | Shefki | And the events related outside of the combat log are all unit based. |
| 00:11.39 | ckknight | this is why people should be on IRC |
| 00:12.06 | Repo | 10shoutout: 03Toirealach * r24 Locales/locale_enUS.lua: |
| 00:12.43 | Repo | trying to fix this weird commit problem, I fucking HATE all version control systems including SVN |
| 00:12.43 | Shefki | Ohh and we have to do the tooltip by unit too. |
| 00:12.43 | ckknight | hrm |
| 00:12.45 | ckknight | I think he's using SVN wrong |
| 00:12.55 | Zenom | lol |
| 00:12.58 | Shefki | I'm betting it's a translator |
| 00:13.10 | Repo | 10shoutout: 03Toirealach * r25 Locales/locale_enUS.lua: |
| 00:13.12 | Repo | trying to fix this weird commit problem, I fucking HATE all version control systems including SVN |
| 00:13.13 | ckknight | lousy translators |
| 00:13.22 | ckknight | Shefki: I'm probably gonna start localizing PitBull4 |
| 00:13.27 | ckknight | now that the localization app is usable |
| 00:13.35 | Shefki | That's fine. |
| 00:13.39 | Vangual | nice revision per minute |
| 00:13.42 | Repo | 10guildwork: 03Tlor101 * r9 Database.lua: 1) Cleaning up wish getters/setters |
| 00:13.44 | Repo | 2) Added the ability to remove items by specifying an empty string ("") |
| 00:13.46 | ckknight | it'll be a good use case for both |
| 00:14.04 | Shefki | Anyway Aura is probably about half done. Still need to add options and layout code. |
| 00:14.05 | Zenom | ok ckk give me an idea for a simple lua starter mod |
| 00:14.06 | Zenom | lol |
| 00:14.09 | NeoTron | ckknight: so what is the output of the localization app? |
| 00:14.11 | ckknight | Zenom: hello world |
| 00:14.18 | Zenom | lol |
| 00:14.34 | ckknight | NeoTron: possibility for multiple export formats, but for now "Simple Lua Table" is all you're offered |
| 00:14.55 | ckknight | Zenom: print("Hello, World!") |
| 00:15.06 | ckknight | Zenom: well, plus a toc file |
| 00:15.08 | Zenom | I meant something useful :) |
| 00:15.14 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 00:15.21 | ckknight | I already made everything useful |
| 00:15.21 | Shefki | Reading the old one frightens me going through it in the process of doing the new one. I forgot how many long functions there were. |
| 00:15.21 | ckknight | jk |
| 00:15.23 | Zenom | You wrote it all. |
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| 00:15.27 | Zenom | yah lol |
| 00:15.38 | ckknight | Shefki: yea, try not to do that.. |
| 00:15.38 | ramoz | Zenom: make configuration to ninjapanel! :O |
| 00:15.47 | ckknight | and remember, DRY (don't repeat yourself) |
| 00:15.48 | Shefki | ckknight: I'm not. |
| 00:16.10 | ckknight | :P |
| 00:16.30 | Zenom | What is ninjapanel? |
| 00:16.36 | Zenom | like kgpanels? heh |
| 00:17.01 | ramoz | no, like fubar for broker plugins |
| 00:17.03 | ramoz | its on wowi |
| 00:17.30 | ckknight | I need to fix FuBar one day |
| 00:17.40 | Gnarfoz | <Shefki> The old Aura module looked for those events and forced aura updates when auras changed based on that. <-- is that why the aura cooldown spirals (actually buff timer spirals to be precise) flicker like shit? ^^ |
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| 00:18.12 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowace.com/projects/test-alpha/localization/ <-- I herd you like translations so I put a translation in your translations so you can translate while you translate |
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| 00:19.04 | nevcairiel | whatnow |
| 00:19.08 | nevcairiel | is confused |
| 00:19.13 | ckknight | lol, Gnarfoz |
| 00:19.31 | Stanzilla | *edits german* |
| 00:19.33 | Repo | 10shoutout: 03Toirealach 04r21 * r26 : |
| 00:19.35 | Repo | trying to fix this weird commit problem, I fucking HATE all version control systems including SVN |
| 00:19.38 | Gnarfoz | what, I'm new to adapting memes for my own evil purposes :( |
| 00:19.44 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: NOOOOOOoooOOooOoos :( |
| 00:19.48 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 00:19.56 | nevcairiel | gief import from Ace3 format and export to Ace3 format |
| 00:20.04 | Gnarfoz | you made the bar go yellow instead of green |
| 00:20.10 | NeoTron | plöt? |
| 00:20.24 | NeoTron | nice word |
| 00:20.26 | Gnarfoz | the english original is "dum" :> |
| 00:20.31 | Gnarfoz | blöd would be "dumb" ;) |
| 00:20.45 | Stanzilla | plöt is uber |
| 00:20.52 | Gnarfoz | I actually had to think about a good translation for "dum" ;D |
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| 00:21.05 | ckknight | nevcairiel: gimme a good example Ace3 export |
| 00:21.22 | ckknight | okay, fixed |
| 00:21.27 | ckknight | I deleted the Ackis is dum phrase |
| 00:21.33 | ckknight | it properly does not show up now |
| 00:21.44 | Gnarfoz | oh right, I noticed that ;D |
| 00:21.49 | Repo | 10shoutout: 03Toirealach * r27 ShoutOut.toc: |
| 00:21.51 | Repo | trying to fix this weird commit problem, I fucking HATE all version control systems including SVN |
| 00:22.09 | Zenom | Someone get that guy an svn manual. |
| 00:22.25 | Gnarfoz | I know context is good, but is it supposed to not be translatable, ckknight? |
| 00:22.27 | Arrowmaster | or let me move him off of wowace |
| 00:22.38 | Arrowmaster | but i dont have that power |
| 00:22.39 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: no it is not, context is for translators |
| 00:22.53 | nevcairiel | ckknight: thats how my auto-generated files look right now --> http://ace.pastey.net/105301 |
| 00:23.03 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: it's so that they know the context of the phrase they're translating |
| 00:23.07 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 00:23.29 | ckknight | nevcairiel: hrm, okay then |
| 00:23.30 | Gnarfoz | my brain's mangled enough that I can't seem to imagine how a real-world example would look like, heh |
| 00:23.40 | Arrowmaster | wowace needs messaging not tied to the forums |
| 00:23.48 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: yea... |
| 00:23.55 | Repo | 10shoutout: 03Toirealach * r28 /: |
| 00:23.57 | Repo | trying to fix this weird commit problem, I fucking HATE all version control systems including SVN |
| 00:24.07 | Arrowmaster | or atleast the curse messaging showing up on wowace |
| 00:24.19 | Arrowmaster | so we can tell this fucktard to get on irc |
| 00:24.21 | nevcairiel | ckknight: or the non-base locale http://ace.pastey.net/105302 |
| 00:24.36 | Arrowmaster | somebody move him to curseforge |
| 00:24.37 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: on-the-fly pre-commit hooks? :D |
| 00:24.43 | Gnarfoz | with editable messages |
| 00:24.45 | Repo | 10shoutout: 03Toirealach * r29 Locales/enUS.lua: |
| 00:24.47 | Repo | trying to fix this weird commit problem, I fucking HATE all version control systems including SVN |
| 00:24.56 | Gnarfoz | returns "get on IRC you dumb fuck" until manually removed |
| 00:24.56 | Arrowmaster | @project shoutout |
| 00:24.57 | Gnarfoz | or something |
| 00:24.57 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/shoutout/. ShoutOut. Game: WoW. Status: Needs Approval. Toirealach (Manager/Author). Updated: 2 minutes ago |
| 00:24.57 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 00:25.08 | ckknight | I sent him an email. |
| 00:25.16 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: you have a babelfish script to "automatically" translate stuff? |
| 00:25.24 | Arrowmaster | not me |
| 00:26.03 | NeoTron | sorry... nevcairiel that is |
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| 00:26.50 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: nah only to parse my lua files and look for L[..] references, and maintain/cleanup the locale files |
| 00:26.52 | Repo | 10shoutout: 03Toirealach * r30 Locales/locale_enUS.lua: delete |
| 00:27.24 | NeoTron | that'd be handy |
| 00:27.34 | NeoTron | think I'll make something for my own use.. |
| 00:27.36 | *** join/#wowace sztanpet (n=sztanpet@142.58ec54.tvnetwork.hu) |
| 00:27.38 | nevcairiel | feel free to steal it out of the bt4 locale dir |
| 00:27.49 | NeoTron | ah ok I'll take a look |
| 00:27.52 | Repo | 10shoutout: 03Toirealach 04r30 * r31 : r30 release |
| 00:28.36 | nevcairiel | it just scans all specified lua files for L[..] references, then matches all exisiting locale against that list |
| 00:28.45 | nevcairiel | drops all that are no longer exisiting, and adds new ones |
| 00:28.57 | nevcairiel | that way all locale files stay in sync :) |
| 00:31.35 | ckknight | nevcairiel: deploying... |
| 00:32.08 | ckknight | and done |
| 00:33.02 | nevcairiel | how the hell do you create phrases? |
| 00:33.09 | nevcairiel | oh i got logged out |
| 00:33.09 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 00:33.16 | ckknight | that's odd |
| 00:33.18 | Arrowmaster | seriously move shoutout to curseforge, extremely bad quality code that doesnt belong on wowace |
| 00:33.22 | ckknight | nevcairiel: Phrases -> Create |
| 00:33.28 | nevcairiel | hm still no create button =P |
| 00:33.36 | nevcairiel | ah there |
| 00:33.38 | nevcairiel | in the dropdown |
| 00:33.40 | ckknight | yes |
| 00:34.23 | ckknight | note: I do use javascript in the localization app for some nice things, but it is in no way necessary |
| 00:34.31 | Repo | 10shoutout: 03Toirealach 04release_1.0.2 * r32 : v1.0.2 release |
| 00:34.37 | nevcairiel | looks good |
| 00:35.10 | ckknight | Xinhuan: ping |
| 00:35.23 | Xinhuan | pong |
| 00:35.29 | Repo | 10shoutout: 03Toirealach * r33 tags/ (2 files in 2 directories): deleting older tags that are no longer needed |
| 00:35.39 | ckknight | Xinhuan: would you be so kind as to go to http://www.wowace.com/projects/test-alpha/localization/ and put in some legit Chinese characters? |
| 00:35.45 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: ok nice little script. :) |
| 00:35.58 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 00:36.08 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libtiphooker-1-1/. LibTipHooker-1.1. Whitetooth (Manager/Author). Approved by Arrowmaster. |
| 00:36.12 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libstatlogic-1-1/. LibStatLogic-1.1. Whitetooth (Manager/Author). Approved by Arrowmaster. |
| 00:36.19 | Xinhuan | can yu wait |
| 00:36.24 | ckknight | yea, np |
| 00:36.29 | ckknight | I just wanna test it |
| 00:36.31 | Xinhuan | i'm actually mid-raid ;p |
| 00:36.34 | ckknight | ah. |
| 00:36.37 | ckknight | that can wait |
| 00:36.40 | ckknight | this is important! |
| 00:36.40 | Arrowmaster | @project ghfhfdghfhgfh |
| 00:36.41 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ghfhfdghfhgfh/. quest helper 2.4.3. Game: WoW. Status: Needs Approval. tasmanijskidalko (Manager/Author). Updated: 28 hours ago |
| 00:36.45 | nevcairiel | just put in some gibberish, doesnt have to make sense |
| 00:36.49 | Arrowmaster | ..... |
| 00:36.56 | NeoTron | ckknight: even better would be if the translator could import existing stuff :P |
| 00:37.04 | ckknight | NeoTron: I plan to add that capability |
| 00:37.14 | Arrowmaster | @project ghfhfdghfhgfh |
| 00:37.15 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ghfhfdghfhgfh/. quest helper 2.4.3. Game: WoW. Status: Deleted. This appears to be another author's work with no changes to make it unique. The original author should upload it on his or her own.. tasmanijskidalko (Manager/Author). Updated: 28 hours ago |
| 00:37.21 | nevcairiel | shoutout wasnt even approved yet Arrowmaster, whats your problem now? =P |
| 00:37.39 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: im not approving it |
| 00:37.46 | doom0r | curses hardcoding |
| 00:37.51 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/liboop/. LibOOP. taleden (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
| 00:37.55 | ckknight | doom0r: ? |
| 00:37.57 | Arrowmaster | just was trying not to be an ass |
| 00:38.02 | nevcairiel | that really reads like LibPOOP |
| 00:38.08 | ckknight | nevcairiel: it so does. |
| 00:38.14 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: you read through that one? |
| 00:38.19 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 00:38.20 | ckknight | I read through it |
| 00:38.20 | doom0r | trying to get roguepowerbars to not look like crap, it uses LSM but hardcodes backdrop and background, ewwwwwwwwww |
| 00:38.38 | ckknight | doom0r: ick. |
| 00:38.40 | nevcairiel | the code is good and commented |
| 00:38.50 | ckknight | documented, actually |
| 00:38.54 | ckknight | (luadoc) |
| 00:39.09 | Arrowmaster | didnt seem very useful to me |
| 00:39.21 | doom0r | should have put an s on the end: LibOOPS |
| 00:39.30 | doom0r | or LibOOPs |
| 00:41.18 | ckknight | LibOops sounds like a debugging lib or an error-catching lib |
| 00:41.26 | ckknight | maybe LibWhoopsieDoodle would be better, though |
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| 00:41.51 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/projects/liboop/pages/api/lib-oop-0-1-lua/ |
| 00:41.54 | Skellum | So umm...question about a possible mod |
| 00:41.59 | ckknight | Skellum: shoot |
| 00:42.11 | Skellum | Basically, I want something that tells us who the fuck in our raids putting down the train |
| 00:42.21 | Zenom | ROFL |
| 00:42.24 | nevcairiel | wait |
| 00:42.35 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/train-conductor/. Train Conductor. casualcorps (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
| 00:42.37 | nevcairiel | Skellum: ^ |
| 00:42.48 | Skellum | :D |
| 00:42.49 | Skellum | <3 |
| 00:42.51 | sztanpet | rofl |
| 00:42.55 | doom0r | omfg yes |
| 00:43.03 | ckknight | what does that do? |
| 00:43.07 | nevcairiel | no idea how finished it is |
| 00:43.12 | nevcairiel | it does exactly what he asked |
| 00:43.21 | ckknight | what does putting down the train do, I mean? |
| 00:43.21 | nevcairiel | tell you who uses the train |
| 00:43.24 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 00:43.29 | ckknight | doesn't play WoW, remember |
| 00:43.30 | nevcairiel | it causes everyone to spam /train emote |
| 00:43.32 | Zenom | Makes everyone go "choo choo" |
| 00:43.32 | nevcairiel | damn annoying |
| 00:43.33 | ckknight | ah. |
| 00:43.33 | doom0r | @project train-conductor |
| 00:43.33 | Zenom | constantly |
| 00:43.34 | Repo | doom0r: http://www.wowace.com/projects/train-conductor/. Train Conductor. Game: WoW. casualcorps (Manager/Author). Updated: 2 days ago |
| 00:43.40 | doom0r | meh, no desc there still? |
| 00:43.40 | doom0r | This is a simple addon to monitor the combat log and notify you of who is using their Toy Train Set. |
| 00:43.47 | ckknight | I see This is a simple addon to monitor the combat log and notify you of who is using their Toy Train Set. |
| 00:43.51 | ckknight | that is a desc |
| 00:43.58 | nevcairiel | even has a release already |
| 00:43.59 | nevcairiel | niec |
| 00:44.01 | doom0r | i meant repo spam |
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| 00:44.03 | nevcairiel | nice =P |
| 00:44.34 | Skellum | I always kinda liked the piccalo, but the train angers me |
| 00:44.38 | ckknight | hrm, he turned off his comments on both wowace and curse |
| 00:45.00 | nevcairiel | Skellum: i could care less for the movement, but the sounds are damn annoying |
| 00:45.32 | ckknight | nevcairiel: you know what'd be great policy? |
| 00:45.43 | nevcairiel | whats that? |
| 00:45.45 | ckknight | "We don't approve new libs without documentation" |
| 00:45.54 | nevcairiel | we dont anyway |
| 00:46.02 | ckknight | ...yea |
| 00:46.05 | Arrowmaster | wow train-conductor is perty low quality |
| 00:46.12 | ckknight | we should disapprove libs that don't have docs now |
| 00:46.12 | Arrowmaster | it even has load spam |
| 00:46.14 | ckknight | disapproves Ace3 |
| 00:46.26 | ckknight | :-P |
| 00:46.29 | Arrowmaster | disapproves Rock |
| 00:46.34 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: meh it filled a demand =P |
| 00:46.36 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: it has docs, just horrid comments |
| 00:47.00 | ckknight | I'm migrating my stuff away from Rock, for maintainability reasons |
| 00:47.07 | nevcairiel | my plans to write inline docs for ace3 got kinda squished when i started playing with python |
| 00:47.09 | ckknight | which means that I see myself hacking on AceConfig later. |
| 00:47.17 | ckknight | nevcairiel: lol |
| 00:47.24 | Arrowmaster | hacking on or hacking with? |
| 00:47.35 | Skellum | Zomg hacker! I saw that in like a movie in the 80s |
| 00:47.36 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: I've already started the with part |
| 00:47.40 | ckknight | I wanna fix some bugs, though |
| 00:47.59 | ckknight | after I'm "done" with PitBull4 |
| 00:48.04 | ckknight | but I noticed some bugs when making PitBull4 |
| 00:48.09 | ckknight | with the dialog display, that is |
| 00:48.22 | Zenom | How "stable" is pitbull4 now? |
| 00:48.35 | ckknight | Zenom: stability's not the issue. It lacks features |
| 00:48.49 | ckknight | Shefki's working on auras |
| 00:48.54 | ckknight | says he's half done |
| 00:48.57 | ckknight | I'm working on groups |
| 00:49.01 | ckknight | I plan on finishing that tonight |
| 00:49.07 | Zenom | If I can help let me know, for beta or wahtever. |
| 00:49.12 | Skellum | How about a strobe light feature? |
| 00:49.13 | ckknight | yea, sure |
| 00:49.23 | ckknight | Skellum: you are free to write a module that provides that. |
| 00:49.25 | Skellum | Or something that can really enduce an epileptic seizure? |
| 00:49.52 | ckknight | Zenom: clearly your lua task should be implementing a threat bar in PitBull4. |
| 00:50.10 | Zenom | I can try. |
| 00:50.13 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r715 AceDBOptions-3.0/AceDBOptions-3.0.lua: AceDBOptions-3.0: esES locale by Silmano |
| 00:50.14 | ckknight | Note: easier than it sounds since you don't have to do any of the GUI Stuff |
| 00:50.29 | ckknight | or frame creation |
| 00:50.37 | ckknight | actually, it's still hard. |
| 00:50.42 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 00:50.44 | ckknight | since there's guid oddities |
| 00:51.07 | ckknight | Zenom: your task is to make an icon module that shows a "Hello Kitty" icon |
| 00:51.21 | ckknight | if the unit is female |
| 00:51.23 | Skellum | Btw, since I had no real computer for a week and a half, I played a wii, and the only game they had at home was, Wii Fit. |
| 00:51.27 | Stanzilla | (the new hunter pet happiness module) |
| 00:51.28 | Stanzilla | :P |
| 00:51.32 | Zenom | LOL |
| 00:51.33 | ckknight | Stanzilla: already did it |
| 00:51.34 | Skellum | Here is wii fit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v31qxrXsxv0 as demonstraited by a mostly naked woman |
| 00:51.49 | ckknight | Zenom: actually it'd be a good exercise for you, I'd say |
| 00:52.03 | Zenom | Cool let me get off the phone and I will start looking. |
| 00:52.13 | ckknight | hehe |
| 00:52.15 | Repo | 10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme * r3 / (4 files in 1 directory): EggTimer: |
| 00:52.17 | Repo | - .pkgmeta: Initial commit |
| 00:52.20 | Repo | - embeds.xml: Initial commit |
| 00:52.22 | Repo | - crossing fingers for painless embedding :) |
| 00:53.00 | ckknight | hey, jokeyrhyme's a dev |
| 00:53.06 | ckknight | thought he was just a user |
| 00:53.11 | ckknight | (he gave some good PB4 advice) |
| 00:53.23 | Gnarfoz | <@nevcairiel> wait <-- just reading backlog... that was awesome timing right there. :D |
| 00:53.43 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: totally intended, that thing was in the queue for a few days already |
| 00:54.00 | Gnarfoz | you just waited for an opportune moment, huh |
| 00:54.01 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 00:54.09 | Gnarfoz | but seriously, I'm so installing that one |
| 00:54.09 | *** join/#wowace toirealach (n=newbie@c-71-202-141-111.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 00:54.16 | Gnarfoz | fucking train set |
| 00:54.54 | nevcairiel | yeah, you cant stand 10 minutes in a dalaran bank without someone /train'ing |
| 00:55.11 | ckknight | hey Arrowmaster, it's toirealach |
| 00:55.50 | toirealach | I was trying to use this GUI-based svn client called "Versions" and was having problems beating it into submission. |
| 00:56.08 | Arrowmaster | eww |
| 00:56.08 | toirealach | I figured it out now. It's faaar too intuitive forits own good |
| 00:56.54 | toirealach | Didn't mean to cause a panic in the server logs |
| 00:57.11 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: my server is depopulated enough for banks to be mostly safe, but as soon as it's off CD and we're wiping to Malygos because some 3-spark-powered mage wipes us via aggro... CHOO CHOO ... |
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| 00:57.44 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 00:58.04 | Gnarfoz | the laugh wand from winter veil is not as bad... it's just one laugh, and we're alliance, so no belf laughs. |
| 01:00.16 | ckknight | toirealach: all your commits get spammed to this channel. It was rather hilarious |
| 01:01.44 | Xinhuan | ckknight |
| 01:01.44 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/test-alpha/localization/zhCN/ |
| 01:02.27 | ckknight | sweet |
| 01:02.29 | Repo | 10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme * r4 / (2 files in 1 directory): EggTimer: |
| 01:02.31 | Repo | - .pkgmeta: oops, copy-paste type, doh! |
| 01:02.57 | ckknight | great, exporting all works |
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| 01:03.35 | Xinhuan | what does clicking "export translations" do? |
| 01:03.52 | nevcairiel | export them |
| 01:03.54 | Gnarfoz | export.... I'm not going there |
| 01:03.55 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 01:04.06 | nevcairiel | shows them in a big edit box for copypasta |
| 01:04.10 | nevcairiel | mmm pasta |
| 01:04.36 | ckknight | Xinhuan: click it. |
| 01:04.50 | Xinhuan | taking soem time to load;p |
| 01:04.52 | ckknight | nevcairiel: that seems like a legit way to show the export, right? |
| 01:04.58 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 01:05.30 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowace.com/projects/test-alpha/localization/ pwetty colors! |
| 01:05.35 | NeoTron | ckknight: where a tool like that could really benefit if it allows sharing of translations between projects |
| 01:05.59 | ckknight | NeoTron: I plan on it. And stealing translations from babelfish |
| 01:06.00 | NeoTron | or perhaps just looking for defaults based on previously added translations |
| 01:06.08 | NeoTron | that on the other hand is a bit scary :P |
| 01:06.15 | ckknight | what's scary? |
| 01:06.27 | ckknight | bar graphs are useful |
| 01:06.28 | NeoTron | automatically translated phrases |
| 01:06.31 | ckknight | ah |
| 01:06.39 | ckknight | well, they'd be marked as "Needs review" by default |
| 01:06.50 | NeoTron | not useless, just could get some really funny results |
| 01:07.00 | ckknight | at which point someone with a funny-sounding accent can review them |
| 01:07.43 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 01:07.51 | ckknight | hmm? |
| 01:08.28 | Xinhuan | maybe you can consider using [[ ]] strings |
| 01:08.31 | doom0r | L["Set the bar width"] = "Translate Server Error" |
| 01:08.31 | Xinhuan | for multiline ones |
| 01:08.39 | Xinhuan | rather than that ugly \ stuff |
| 01:08.45 | doom0r | babelfish win! |
| 01:08.55 | ckknight | Xinhuan: I do that. |
| 01:08.59 | ckknight | actually, wait |
| 01:09.00 | ckknight | no I don't |
| 01:09.04 | ckknight | I have a good reason, though |
| 01:09.15 | trh | oh gawd.. please don't babelfish.. for every babelfish translation into german god kills a kitten... ;) |
| 01:09.17 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/train-whistle/. TrainWhistle. Arrowmaster (Manager/Author). Approved by Arrowmaster. |
| 01:09.19 | nevcairiel | embeded [[? :) |
| 01:09.21 | Xinhuan | or \n maybe? |
| 01:09.27 | ckknight | nevcairiel: no, that's perfectly fine. |
| 01:09.47 | Gnarfoz | trh: make that 2 |
| 01:09.50 | ckknight | it's because if you instead of exporting utf-8 you export escaped characters, it'd fuck up |
| 01:10.06 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: did you just clone that in like 10minutes |
| 01:10.08 | ckknight | "["Translators cannot code Lua"] = "\231\191\187\232\175\145\228\186\186\228\184\141\228\188\154\229\134\153Lua", |
| 01:10.09 | nevcairiel | the escaped chars look fun though :D |
| 01:10.15 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: less |
| 01:10.24 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: now delete the other one :p |
| 01:10.46 | Gnarfoz | wowace is made up of so much redundancy and now you're contributing to it, too! :p |
| 01:10.51 | ckknight | yea... |
| 01:10.53 | ckknight | that is kinda bad |
| 01:11.34 | Repo | 10train-whistle: 03Arrowmaster 07master * v1.0.0 / (3 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] Initial Commit. |
| 01:11.38 | Repo | 10train-whistle: 03Arrowmaster 04v1.0.0 * 3909b0d /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0.0 |
| 01:12.02 | Arrowmaster | mines so much better |
| 01:12.23 | ckknight | why is it better? |
| 01:12.29 | Arrowmaster | because it doesnt suck |
| 01:12.32 | Xinhuan | well those 2 translations took up 2/3 of the screen to edit |
| 01:12.50 | Xinhuan | does that mean having about 100 translations would take 40 pages of screens |
| 01:13.07 | nevcairiel | maybe it paginates somewhere :) |
| 01:13.28 | Arrowmaster | somebody test train-whistle |
| 01:13.36 | nevcairiel | test it yourself :p |
| 01:13.43 | Arrowmaster | i dont have a train set |
| 01:13.47 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: how? do you expect me to own that fucking thing if I despise it |
| 01:13.47 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 01:13.48 | nevcairiel | buy oen :) |
| 01:13.55 | Arrowmaster | its like 200g |
| 01:14.00 | Gnarfoz | it'll probably work drycoded |
| 01:14.05 | Gnarfoz | you'll never have to touch it again, ever. |
| 01:14.06 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 01:14.20 | Arrowmaster | mine even works on every locale |
| 01:14.28 | nevcairiel | anyway, I'm off for today |
| 01:14.28 | Arrowmaster | the other doesnt |
| 01:14.30 | Gnarfoz | but spouts english only |
| 01:14.32 | Gnarfoz | ! |
| 01:14.37 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: typo alert btw |
| 01:14.39 | Arrowmaster | like i give a fuck |
| 01:14.46 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: line 4, eventttype |
| 01:15.53 | Repo | 10train-whistle: 03Arrowmaster 07master * v1.0.1 TrainWhistle.lua: [+1 commit] Typo fix |
| 01:15.57 | Repo | 10train-whistle: 03Arrowmaster 04v1.0.1 * 2027975 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0.1 |
| 01:16.21 | Gnarfoz | awesomeness. |
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| 01:16.56 | Xinhuan | what does that do |
| 01:17.21 | Arrowmaster | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("|cff33ff99TrainWhistle|r: " .. srcName .. "has used a Toy Train Set") |
| 01:17.26 | Arrowmaster | about that |
| 01:17.30 | Arrowmaster | and nothing else |
| 01:17.38 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 01:17.40 | pastamancer | noooo, they'll catch on to me |
| 01:17.51 | Skellum | Anyway I could set it to like /o? |
| 01:18.01 | Gnarfoz | yeah, hack it locally |
| 01:18.03 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 01:18.04 | pastamancer | I love me some good ninja train set |
| 01:18.04 | Xinhuan | lame |
| 01:18.34 | Skellum | I lurk in here because I cant really/havent tried, making mods. I just think they're neat. And useful as hell, and that you guys rock for taking your time out to make them |
| 01:18.42 | Skellum | And I find cool mods like things to end the fucking trains |
| 01:19.33 | Gnarfoz | heh |
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| 01:21.20 | NeoTron | don't worry, I'll still put my train down |
| 01:21.32 | *** part/#wowace Archarodim (i=HydraIRC@lev92-4-88-164-134-95.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 01:21.49 | Arrowmaster | now somebody move train-conductor to curseforge and off of wowace |
| 01:22.27 | Gnarfoz | but... train-whistle is not ace, either! |
| 01:22.29 | Gnarfoz | ace it! |
| 01:22.30 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 01:22.41 | Arrowmaster | fuck you |
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| 01:23.06 | Gnarfoz | good idea tbh |
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| 01:23.51 | Arrowmaster | sersiously shit with more code in it to spam the user on login than actual code to do what its ment to do doesnt belong on wowace |
| 01:24.12 | Gnarfoz | I agree ^^ |
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| 01:28.05 | Gnarfoz | it's Tuller! Flee! |
| 01:28.18 | Tuller | dun dun dun |
| 01:28.20 | Gnarfoz | ~flee |
| 01:28.21 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
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| 01:28.47 | Skellum | so trainwhistle |
| 01:28.50 | Skellum | Its the good one now? |
| 01:29.02 | Gnarfoz | yeah. |
| 01:29.19 | Gnarfoz | simple as fuck, but then it's a really simple problem. :p |
| 01:29.34 | Skellum | trains are everyones problem. |
| 01:29.44 | Skellum | like bears |
| 01:29.59 | Gnarfoz | meh. he made the repo closed :P |
| 01:30.18 | Gnarfoz | obviously needs a clone with Sink-2.0 support |
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| 01:30.28 | Gnarfoz | and AceConfigGUI for choosing said Sink output |
| 01:30.54 | Gnarfoz | can't think of mor crap to tack onto a 5-line addon |
| 01:32.26 | Stanzilla | profiles |
| 01:32.29 | Stanzilla | :P |
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| 01:34.10 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: RIGHT ON |
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| 01:34.52 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: do you want a clone? |
| 01:35.22 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: s/a clone/make up bloaty ideas/ |
| 01:35.33 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 01:35.54 | Arrowmaster | sorry but i nolonger have any trust in open repos |
| 01:36.16 | Wraithan | Like open for anyone to commit to? |
| 01:36.19 | Gnarfoz | it's perfect as it is. if I wanted officer output support, I'd hack that in locally, it's a 2min job anyway |
| 01:36.35 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: neither do I. what repo type you using, though? |
| 01:36.41 | Arrowmaster | git |
| 01:36.44 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:36.46 | ckknight | then I approve. |
| 01:37.04 | ckknight | since worst case scenario, someone could clone, tell you to pull, no hassles |
| 01:37.09 | Belazor | So the mod's purpose is to basically tell you to run the fuck away from all the choo choo? |
| 01:37.30 | Arrowmaster | no license (thus i completely control it), no cloning, closed repo |
| 01:37.50 | Arrowmaster | Belazor: no it just tells you who used the train set |
| 01:38.10 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: can't clone closed repos, that's how I noticed^^ |
| 01:38.17 | Belazor | People were spamming your raids with them? XD |
| 01:38.21 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: depends on the license |
| 01:38.24 | Gnarfoz | for a minute I actually considered cloning it with chat output support |
| 01:38.33 | Gnarfoz | oh right, he has no license set |
| 01:38.36 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: ick, imo single-level cloning ftw |
| 01:39.00 | ckknight | it makes it so people can clone once, in order to give you patches and stuff |
| 01:39.01 | Arrowmaster | they can use github if they want |
| 01:39.12 | ckknight | this goes against the open nature of wowace. |
| 01:39.15 | ckknight | severely. |
| 01:40.00 | NeoTron | move the project to curseforge, such a closed project doesn't belong on wowace! |
| 01:40.00 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 01:40.08 | Belazor | If there's going to be an argument about OSS over a 5 line mod, I'm getting me some popcorn! |
| 01:40.08 | ckknight | I kind of think so, yea |
| 01:40.21 | ckknight | this isn't an open source thing |
| 01:40.25 | Gnarfoz | Belazor: yum |
| 01:40.26 | ckknight | or free software thing |
| 01:40.32 | Belazor | you just like to whine |
| 01:40.32 | Belazor | XD |
| 01:40.38 | ckknight | no, Belazor |
| 01:40.42 | Belazor | I jest :p |
| 01:40.56 | Belazor | y so srs :p |
| 01:41.27 | ckknight | there should be a proper way for people to submit changes to an original project, even if the author won't accept them |
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| 01:41.56 | Belazor | Remove the no-clone option then :p |
| 01:42.10 | ckknight | without being an author on the project, that is |
| 01:42.12 | ckknight | Belazor: I might. |
| 01:42.22 | ckknight | I'll discuss it with Kaelten and others first before I do that, though |
| 01:42.29 | ckknight | since it's a policy issue |
| 01:42.33 | Repo | 10huntard: 03Xocide 07master * v0.3-3-g5de43a4 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
| 01:42.36 | Repo | 5de43a4: Added new Libs to .pkgmeta |
| 01:42.39 | Arrowmaster | i use git, people can email me a diff |
| 01:42.39 | Repo | 129cc18: Started working on the Feign Death cooldown notification. |
| 01:42.42 | Repo | 9f47a0a: Started work on custom feigning message. |
| 01:43.10 | ckknight | I don't see what preventing single-level cloning gains you |
| 01:43.25 | Arrowmaster | git apply |
| 01:43.29 | Arrowmaster | done |
| 01:43.51 | Groktar | curls up in ckknight's git repository and goes to sleep |
| 01:44.08 | Belazor | is there a git flush command |
| 01:44.09 | Belazor | :p |
| 01:44.09 | ckknight | Â and for people who want to have a repo, have people test it out before bothering the author, and then give the author those changes? |
| 01:44.12 | Arrowmaster | if i allow cloning i have no access to the clones |
| 01:44.18 | Skellum | Shooty boys or choppy boys for your gits? |
| 01:44.18 | exor674 | can I hack it to use MurderUnitIRL please? |
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| 01:44.38 | Arrowmaster | what happens if somebody makes a clone then doesnt use it ever again? |
| 01:44.45 | Joontje | Do any of you know the addon for WoW that the button flashes really bright once the cooldown finishes? |
| 01:45.03 | Joontje | and by the button i mean ability button |
| 01:45.07 | SunTsu | Joontje: Omnicc, CooldownCount |
| 01:45.11 | Arrowmaster | @project easy-serum |
| 01:45.12 | Repo | Arrowmaster: No project found that matches 'easy-serum' |
| 01:45.16 | Arrowmaster | @project easyserum |
| 01:45.17 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/easyserum/. EasySerum. Game: WoW. Xinhuan (Manager/Author). Updated: 7 days ago |
| 01:45.24 | Joontje | OmniCC doesnt do that anymore, i just tried SunTsu |
| 01:45.40 | PProvost | Anyone else here using oUF_Banzai? |
| 01:45.41 | Arrowmaster | cooldowncount is trash |
| 01:45.49 | Tuller | cooldown count still has the pulse, I took it out of omnicc |
| 01:45.50 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: I have a ticket to delete clones after X amount of days if unused, I still plan to implement that. |
| 01:46.01 | Stanzilla | Joontje: omnicc has a "pulse" option |
| 01:46.11 | Belazor | Joontje: OmniCC does it, but not for CDs < 10 secs |
| 01:46.11 | Tuller | err cooldown count has the "shine" |
| 01:46.12 | Joontje | ye the pulse just doenst do the oldschool bright flash anymore |
| 01:46.19 | Tuller | omnicc has a "pulse" |
| 01:46.20 | Joontje | actually its 30 seconds |
| 01:46.30 | Joontje | ;) |
| 01:46.33 | Belazor | fien XD |
| 01:46.35 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: ok and allow the original project manager control too, shouldnt have to wait |
| 01:46.47 | Tuller | and yep, I did that for "omg I just had 3000 pulses go off when I was silenced" |
| 01:46.48 | Belazor | Im glad it has that too, it lagged my UI when I got spell locked :p |
| 01:46.56 | Joontje | Tuller, Shine ? elaborate :p |
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| 01:47.14 | Joontje | you mean the bright light |
| 01:47.17 | Tuller | yes |
| 01:47.18 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: but what if the original author is a dick, decides he doesn't like the cloner because he has a big nose, deletes his repo then? |
| 01:47.25 | Joontje | mkay im gonna try that :) thanks |
| 01:47.44 | Tuller | from abinfo which I stuck in omnicc which was inherited by cooldown count when it "ported" omnicc 1.0 to ace :P |
| 01:48.09 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: then stop bugging the original author about not allowing cloning |
| 01:49.15 | ckknight | hmm, I suppose I actually could allow the manager control over some things, but then shoot off proper messages and keep logs |
| 01:49.37 | ckknight | mind filing a ticket to allow Project managers control over non-mainline clones? |
| 01:49.44 | Arrowmaster | people shouldnt be using clones for stuff they expect to stay around |
| 01:49.52 | ckknight | true |
| 01:50.00 | Joontje | Tuller, you know if cooldowncount is discontinued? |
| 01:50.01 | Arrowmaster | actually raids starting soon |
| 01:50.16 | Arrowmaster | Joontje: its not discontinued, it just fucking sucks |
| 01:50.20 | Joontje | xD |
| 01:50.29 | Joontje | but i want my bright light ! :p |
| 01:50.29 | Tuller | not a clue |
| 01:50.56 | Tuller | someone should write an opt in version of cooldown count sortof like button facade |
| 01:51.19 | Arrowmaster | why? |
| 01:51.45 | Tuller | because if you do that, then you can have more granular control over what has text displays (ie, don't show them on my buffs) |
| 01:52.05 | Arrowmaster | isnt that what the original cooldowncount did anyway, before hshh turned the name into the abomination it is now |
| 01:52.37 | Tuller | cooldown count had plugins for each addon |
| 01:52.43 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 01:53.03 | Tuller | which were basically xml files (being this was sortof pre "create your own frames" town) |
| 01:53.07 | Arrowmaster | hshh didnt write that version, he just stole the name when he 'ported' omnicc to ace2 |
| 01:53.16 | Tuller | right |
| 01:53.20 | Tuller | old cooldown count was sarf |
| 01:53.23 | Tuller | I think |
| 01:54.18 | Tuller | I mean, I like omnicc's design, I just know its not for everyone :P |
| 01:54.34 | PProvost | ckknight: If the point of cloning is OSS style fork-and-go, then the manager shouldn't control it, the cloner should control it. |
| 01:55.00 | ckknight | PProvost: yea, I do agree with that, but Arrowmaster's so angry... |
| 01:55.10 | PProvost | pfft |
| 01:55.13 | PProvost | What's new |
| 01:55.28 | ckknight | I made a localization app |
| 01:55.28 | Arrowmaster | if this was more of a github style where the fork is under a different namespace i would agree |
| 01:55.30 | ckknight | that's pretty new |
| 01:55.44 | Arrowmaster | but here the forks are under the original namespace |
| 01:56.02 | Arrowmaster | which the manager controls |
| 01:56.04 | PProvost | Why do you care about the NS Arrowmaster ? |
| 01:57.12 | Arrowmaster | because i dont want some idiot that cant code trying to add horible features to a clone of my addon, in theory since i doubt anybody would ever even want to clone train-whistle |
| 01:57.28 | PProvost | If you don't want clones, then disallow clones |
| 01:57.29 | ckknight | you have every right not to merge in their code |
| 01:57.30 | PProvost | WTF? |
| 01:57.34 | PProvost | YEah |
| 01:57.36 | PProvost | You don't have to take it |
| 01:57.41 | PProvost | What's the big deal? |
| 01:57.41 | Arrowmaster | PProvost: i did |
| 01:57.49 | Arrowmaster | they yelled at me for disabling it |
| 01:58.05 | ckknight | PProvost: the issue brought up earlier is that wowace has an open culture, and I'm not sure if disallowing clones is a good idea on wowace. |
| 01:58.31 | PProvost | Unless your license forbits it (or unless your Tekkub and don't care) I can just clone it manually and put it up with either a new name (on CF) or however I want (on something else0. |
| 01:58.44 | PProvost | What are you protecting/hiding from/scared of/etc? |
| 01:59.05 | doom0r | do bars get default backdrops if none is set? |
| 01:59.09 | PProvost | As you say on the repo create page, cloning is required by most OSS licenses |
| 01:59.23 | ckknight | PProvost: his is actually all rights reserved |
| 01:59.28 | Tekkub | <sting> If you love some code, set it free </sting> |
| 01:59.32 | PProvost | The he should have clones turned off |
| 01:59.36 | Joontje | Arrowmaster ur right it does suck, why cant omniCC flash anymore blergh :P |
| 01:59.45 | PProvost | hugs Tekkub |
| 01:59.46 | Arrowmaster | honestly i wouldnt give a fuck if you did clone it and put it up under a new name as long as it didnt referece the old name anywhere in the code except comments |
| 02:00.22 | ckknight | PProvost: as I said, wowace has an open culture, where people can at least submit their code back to the author easily, which is why I'm not sure if allowing clones to be disabled at all is a good idea |
| 02:00.37 | PProvost | It is all about the license ckk |
| 02:00.40 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: how with cloning disabled, still allowing the project manager to create clones |
| 02:00.46 | ckknight | PProvost: I'm not talking about disabling clones on curseforge |
| 02:00.54 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: that should be how it is now. |
| 02:00.57 | PProvost | Following that logic ckknight means no Rights Reserved licenses as well |
| 02:01.00 | Arrowmaster | really? i dont see it |
| 02:01.20 | Arrowmaster | oh nvm, i see it now |
| 02:01.20 | ckknight | PProvost: no, since the author never has to merge the code back in. |
| 02:01.38 | doom0r | s/bars/frames/ |
| 02:01.40 | PProvost | Yeah, since the author opts in to the change, I don't understand the angst. |
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| 02:01.46 | ckknight | doom0r: not in default WoW |
| 02:01.50 | PProvost | If you don't like it, ignore it. |
| 02:02.06 | ckknight | you could even say "I think this clone is stupid, I'm not going to merge it in" |
| 02:02.15 | Repo | 10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme * r5 / (3 files in 1 directory): EggTimer: |
| 02:02.18 | Repo | - EggTimer.toc: loading in new file "ItemDB.lua" |
| 02:02.21 | Repo | - ItemDB.lua: contains trackable item definitions |
| 02:02.24 | Repo | - EggTimer.lua: updated to use item definitions in "ItemDB.lua" |
| 02:03.23 | doom0r | is eggtimer what i think it is, and does it have an ldb object |
| 02:03.30 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: sweet, now i have it setup more like i would want, i created a single clone thats open |
| 02:03.40 | Xinhuan | sounds like a oracle egg timer |
| 02:03.48 | doom0r | exactly |
| 02:03.51 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: *shrug* fair enough for now |
| 02:08.18 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: curse is weird, saying my project was created on dec 31st |
| 02:08.28 | ckknight | UTC |
| 02:08.33 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know |
| 02:09.19 | ckknight | how is that weird, then? |
| 02:09.47 | Arrowmaster | curse has timestamps elsewhere that are converted to the users local time arent they? |
| 02:10.01 | Arrowmaster | like the curse forums |
| 02:13.02 | ckknight | no idea |
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| 02:30.15 | ulrikft | I bought this today: http://www.delseycamerabags.com/view_product.php?productid=76 - finally |
| 02:33.22 | ckknight | nevcairiel: btw, I am working on the importer. I'm basically implementing a lua-table parser to do it |
| 02:37.17 | Gngsk | in php? |
| 02:37.49 | sztanpet | python |
| 02:37.59 | Gngsk | ah |
| 02:43.57 | ckknight | I've written parsers before, so at least this isn't too hard |
| 02:50.41 | doom0r | is that your normal carry bag thul? |
| 02:51.12 | ulrikft | doom0r: I'm planing to make it my normal/work carry bag. |
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| 02:51.31 | ulrikft | when it arrives with ups :-P |
| 02:51.44 | doom0r | seems a bit to lug around except when you really need to carry everything |
| 02:51.58 | ulrikft | hmm, it is not that huge. |
| 02:52.10 | ulrikft | camera + lens, 1-2 extra lenses and a msi wind :-P |
| 02:54.00 | doom0r | i guess that just depends on what you're doing |
| 02:55.19 | ulrikft | well, I very close to always have dlsr+3 lenses with me |
| 02:55.27 | ulrikft | I lock it in the locker when lifting weights |
| 02:55.33 | ulrikft | but that is about the longest I stay without it :-P |
| 02:57.26 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: dunno which chan I saw you saying it in, but you mentioned just returning from a 3-day trip... any chance that was a trip to 25C3? ^^ |
| 02:57.35 | doom0r | you do anything besides hobby? |
| 02:57.57 | ulrikft | photographing? well, I do paid gigs too yeah, but it is not my main profession. |
| 02:58.02 | ulrikft | I just.. love taking pictures in general :-P |
| 02:58.16 | doom0r | ah, my mother's ex-boyfriend used to do housewares |
| 02:58.25 | doom0r | very well paying field |
| 02:59.08 | ulrikft | mhm! |
| 02:59.15 | ulrikft | but ah well, going to bed. I ponder when i get it. |
| 02:59.27 | ulrikft | it should be here 2 working days from now, but I guess they don't make tomorrow a working day :-P |
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| 03:05.59 | pakoz | is there a way i can check what other members of the raid have dbm/bwigs? |
| 03:06.03 | pakoz | im using DBM |
| 03:08.08 | Mikk | bigwigs can check for bigwigs |
| 03:08.18 | Mikk | dbm's capabilities are unknown to me |
| 03:08.55 | pakoz | ./dbm version |
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| 03:31.37 | doom0r | anyone know libbars off the top of their head or should i just go browse it |
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| 03:40.07 | Skellum | Arrow |
| 03:40.09 | Skellum | you there? |
| 03:40.14 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 03:40.21 | Skellum | mod failed in a raid environment |
| 03:40.33 | Arrowmaster | seriously? |
| 03:40.38 | Skellum | yep |
| 03:40.46 | Skellum | Two trains dropped in a row on KT |
| 03:40.55 | Skellum | No reporting in /say or anywhere |
| 03:41.07 | Arrowmaster | it only prints to the chatframe |
| 03:41.16 | Gnarfoz | it worked for me in dalaran earlier |
| 03:41.30 | Arrowmaster | Skellum: you got v1.0.1? |
| 03:41.32 | Skellum | would it be compatable with prat? |
| 03:41.45 | Gnarfoz | (I was afk on desktop, didn't even see or hear the damn thing (was way out of range), just saw it in my chat frame after tabbing back in) |
| 03:42.01 | sztanpet | it reports only to you |
| 03:42.11 | sztanpet | its prints to the chat frame, not to any channels |
| 03:42.15 | Gnarfoz | Skellum: 1.0.0 has a typo that prevents it from working. besides that, 1.0.1 seems to work fine and shouldn't interact badly with anything really :O |
| 03:42.37 | Skellum | ahhhh |
| 03:42.48 | Gnarfoz | on another note: is it possible the armory doesn't show all available titles? :\ seems limited to 12... |
| 03:43.14 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: ask Xinhuan, hes got 21 |
| 03:43.59 | Gnarfoz | I just checked with the weirdo that one-up's our local (to #wowace that is) weirdo ;p |
| 03:44.38 | Gnarfoz | (that being the guy with > 7000 achievement thingys. he's got "Leeeeeeeeeeeeroy!" but the title doesn't show up on armory |
| 03:44.52 | Gnarfoz | why oh why do I open parentheses and then don't close them |
| 03:45.49 | doom0r | where does it even show available titles? |
| 03:46.57 | Gnarfoz | source code |
| 03:49.36 | ckknight | well I think I have code that converts a lua table to a python dictionary |
| 03:49.49 | ckknight | doesn't handle numbers, though, but I don't really care that much |
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| 03:50.15 | taleden | seems like lua tables would look a lot like json objects, could probably use a json parser as a base if you wanted |
| 03:50.39 | ckknight | taleden: they're close, but different, the way I did it was fine enough |
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| 03:50.55 | ckknight | taleden: in other news, I wrote a JSON parser in lua |
| 03:51.00 | ckknight | @project libjson-1-0 |
| 03:51.02 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libjson-1-0/. LibJSON-1.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author). Updated: 12 days ago |
| 03:51.17 | taleden | saw that the other day, wondered what'd it be useful for :) |
| 03:51.23 | ckknight | exporting data. |
| 03:51.35 | ckknight | that accompanied with |
| 03:51.40 | ckknight | @project libbase64-1-0 |
| 03:51.42 | ckknight | and a client |
| 03:51.44 | ckknight | you're set |
| 03:52.04 | ckknight | le sigh |
| 03:52.07 | ckknight | fuck you, MySQL |
| 03:52.19 | exor674 | be careful, MySQL has some nasty STDs |
| 03:52.54 | ckknight | I know |
| 03:53.00 | ckknight | I think ours got AIDS |
| 03:53.17 | ckknight | because it can't insert into a table without locking up the whole DB |
| 03:53.30 | taleden | screwy indexes? |
| 03:55.12 | ckknight | no, taleden |
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| 03:55.17 | ckknight | it has 2 indexes |
| 03:55.21 | ckknight | no foreign keys |
| 03:58.23 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libbase64-1-0/. LibBase64-1.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author). Updated: 12 days ago |
| 03:58.38 | ckknight | fucking a |
| 03:58.40 | ckknight | 7 and a half minutes |
| 03:58.52 | quiescens | heh |
| 03:59.16 | quiescens | I don't suppose that library's existence was spurred in any way by blizzard deciding to put in tradeskill links |
| 03:59.40 | ckknight | no |
| 03:59.50 | ckknight | it was spurred by a project Kaelten and I are working on in our spare time |
| 03:59.52 | ckknight | it does some data mining |
| 04:02.20 | ckknight | I've thought about writing a Base85 as well |
| 04:05.21 | ckknight | alright, I'm done for the day |
| 04:05.30 | ckknight | I should have import support for the localization app in tomorrow |
| 04:05.58 | ckknight | I'm gonna get PitBull4 groups working |
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| 04:13.21 | sztanpet | oh, friend of mine says he had the exact same mysql problem, and it was because of a glibc bug (some NPTL locking problem) |
| 04:15.30 | quiescens | mm |
| 04:16.27 | Repo | 10liboop: 03taleden 040.1.3-beta * r4 : Tagging as 0.1.3-beta |
| 04:16.27 | ckknight | sztanpet: can you put me in touch with him? |
| 04:17.48 | quiescens | decursive has two menu thingies that toggle D.profileAfflictionTooltips but they have different behaviour |
| 04:18.02 | quiescens | d.profile.AfflictionTooltips rather |
| 04:20.24 | sztanpet | not right now, no |
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| 04:23.17 | ckknight | sztanpet: that's fine, but if you can put me in touch with him sometime, that'd be good |
| 04:23.42 | ckknight | though actually wtf |
| 04:23.47 | ckknight | I did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade |
| 04:23.53 | ckknight | there were so many updates |
| 04:23.58 | ckknight | to libc |
| 04:23.58 | ckknight | to mysql |
| 04:23.59 | ckknight | gah |
| 04:24.10 | ckknight | I thought Kaelten took care of this |
| 04:24.11 | ckknight | oh well |
| 04:24.14 | sztanpet | his not exact words are "fuck no, it was years ago, dont even know which version" |
| 04:24.22 | ckknight | now we wait and see if the problem still exists |
| 04:24.50 | quiescens | uh ohs |
| 04:25.15 | ckknight | what? |
| 04:25.18 | ckknight | we got an issue? |
| 04:25.36 | quiescens | nono, just a generic response to the wait and see |
| 04:25.37 | quiescens | lol |
| 04:25.45 | ckknight | oh, okay |
| 04:25.52 | ckknight | repobot's probably dead |
| 04:25.54 | ckknight | @project curseforge |
| 04:25.55 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/. CurseForge.com. Kaelten (Manager/Author), ckknight (Author), Ackis (Ticket Manager). Updated: 260 days ago. Tickets: 214/1006 |
| 04:25.58 | ckknight | hrm |
| 04:26.16 | quiescens | heh |
| 04:26.21 | ckknight | (I killed it) |
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| 04:26.29 | quiescens | poor repo ): |
| 04:26.30 | ckknight | it wouldn't've gotten any more messages |
| 04:26.34 | ckknight | but still could be queried |
| 04:26.43 | quiescens | pats Repo. |
| 04:27.59 | ckknight | okay |
| 04:28.02 | ckknight | I think it's time for another poll |
| 04:28.29 | ckknight | though my last poll was more of a technology test |
| 04:28.37 | ckknight | score voting takes too long for casual people |
| 04:28.52 | ckknight | even though it should be used if one wants legit data |
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| 04:34.11 | doom0r | how's that? you show us a picture from Score, and we vote on it? |
| 04:34.35 | sztanpet | facepalm time |
| 04:35.58 | Megalon | who does not like to score |
| 04:36.21 | ckknight | doom0r: score voting is choosing a number from A to B (where A is usually 0 and B is usually 5, 10, or 100) for each option in the poll |
| 04:36.31 | ckknight | you get damn good data from it over single-choice polls |
| 04:36.39 | ckknight | but people are far less likely to bother |
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| 04:45.21 | sztanpet | new poll type! the fake single choice poll, which if clicked takes you to the score vote poll |
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| 04:49.20 | ckknight | no, sztanpet |
| 04:49.28 | ckknight | that'll just make people click the back button |
| 04:49.32 | ckknight | interesting: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1230696000119.jpg |
| 04:49.36 | ckknight | (SFW) |
| 04:51.04 | sztanpet | have you broken the server yet? :D |
| 04:51.57 | ckknight | apparently not |
| 04:52.51 | Gnarfoz | that pic leaves out the particularily likely option: |
| 04:52.53 | Gnarfoz | god is evil |
| 04:53.35 | sztanpet | malevolent is close enough |
| 04:54.59 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: that's taken into account |
| 04:55.10 | ckknight | malevolence is just a specific type of evil |
| 04:56.46 | Gnarfoz | oh, missed that |
| 04:57.09 | Gnarfoz | my point was more: why does malevolent preclude him from being called "god" |
| 04:57.22 | Gnarfoz | there is a verb missing there... somewhere. |
| 04:57.45 | quiescens | lol |
| 04:57.53 | ckknight | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1230698620437.jpg |
| 04:57.54 | ckknight | lulz |
| 04:58.01 | quiescens | malevolence |
| 05:00.17 | doom0r | needs more ss! |
| 05:02.44 | Arrowmaster | !api GetAddOnMetadata |
| 05:02.44 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'GetAddOnMetadata' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetAddOnMetadata |
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| 05:09.38 | Repo | Add support for using Curse's X-Curse-Packaged-Version toc field for version info if no other method is sucessful |
| 05:10.28 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: prepare to be boarded |
| 05:10.42 | Gnarfoz | (do I sound like Fisker-, yet?) |
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| 05:12.04 | Arrowmaster | i hate my guild |
| 05:12.24 | Arrowmaster | theyre getting more 25man achievements without me |
| 05:12.38 | quiescens | kill them |
| 05:12.47 | quiescens | kill them all |
| 05:13.03 | Gnarfoz | no, DDoS them so they lag out and fuck up the achievements! |
| 05:14.26 | Arrowmaster | hmm that wasnt 25 messages so they must have gotten heroic: just cant get enough without me lastweek too, but 4 people just got heroic: just cant get enough and heroic: the fall of naxxramas at once |
| 05:14.36 | ckknight | 4chan needs to stop being so interesting |
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| 05:16.05 | Laric | argh.. something is making me get #132's if I zone while in combat.. annoying as hell |
| 05:17.10 | ckknight | Laric: bisect your addon listing |
| 05:18.10 | Laric | ckknight: yeah I will.. guess I will use ramparts as that is one of the few places I can engage and survive long enough to leave.. (being a priest have it's drawbacks) |
| 05:18.24 | ckknight | hrm |
| 05:19.19 | Laric | hmm whats new in the cc 2.0.1.0? |
| 05:19.35 | quiescens | it has a bigger version number |
| 05:19.43 | Laric | :) |
| 05:19.52 | ckknight | NSFW: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1230700505117.jpg |
| 05:20.12 | Laric | ck you naughty boy |
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| 05:29.29 | Stanzilla | <3 rolling restarts |
| 05:30.30 | sztanphet | <3 shity isps |
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| 05:36.05 | cav^gerber | am i supposed to be getting 22 fps in dalaran with a gtx 260 |
| 05:36.27 | Laric | is there a fix for gridlayoutplus while using the guidversion of grid? |
| 05:36.42 | sztanphet | cav^gerber if using vista, then yes |
| 05:36.58 | cav^gerber | I thought they fixed all the vista problems with video cards |
| 05:37.31 | sztanphet | you could try out wow with opengl, it might help (probably wont) |
| 05:38.48 | Laric | hmm funny/weird.. I was getting better fps in wow 2.x while using vista than xp.. in 3.x it switched to get better fps in xp |
| 05:39.07 | sztanphet | no idea why it varies so much |
| 05:39.20 | sztanphet | in xp i have 60fps in raids, in vista i have 15 |
| 05:39.31 | sztanphet | 8800gt |
| 05:39.52 | cav^gerber | I just switched to vista solely becuase i just bought this card, for dx10 |
| 05:40.37 | Arrowmaster | why the hell would anybody switch just for dx10 |
| 05:40.43 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt do anything |
| 05:41.18 | Laric | not for vista |
| 05:41.20 | cav^gerber | idk, i just thought that would be something to look forward too |
| 05:41.24 | Laric | not for wow I mean |
| 05:41.33 | cav^gerber | well i play more than wow |
| 05:41.35 | Laric | some games looks alot better in dx10 |
| 05:41.53 | sztanphet | hellgate london looked quite fantastic with dx10 actually |
| 05:42.05 | quiescens | dalaran lag tends to be not so graphics card bound |
| 05:42.15 | cav^gerber | so other games, like fallout 3 and stuff, wont see much of a problem with vista? its only a wow bound problem right |
| 05:42.29 | sztanphet | cav^gerber pretty much |
| 05:42.53 | cav^gerber | quiescens, that might be it, i was getting 60 fps everywhere else. But i was getting 20 fps with my 7950 so i was kinda sad when i saw 22 with gtx 260 =( |
| 05:42.57 | Laric | it seems as dalaran is bringing back good old IF lag |
| 05:43.15 | sztanphet | if your playing in windowed mode, go for fullscren with -opengl a lot of people say that helps |
| 05:43.18 | cav^gerber | hopefully i wont lag in raids much anymore though |
| 05:43.20 | sztanphet | not for me tho |
| 05:43.23 | cav^gerber | i was in windowed mode |
| 05:43.25 | quiescens | it seems to be more cpu and memory |
| 05:43.43 | quiescens | game probably just doesn't handle massed players very well |
| 05:43.53 | cav^gerber | 4 gigs here, with core 2 duo 3.0 |
| 05:44.09 | sztanphet | nah, must be some directshow layer fuckup |
| 05:44.29 | sztanphet | it would lag with xp too if it werent |
| 05:45.54 | cav^gerber | well i haven't tried it in XP yet |
| 05:46.17 | cav^gerber | but in xp with 7950, i would get like 20 in dalaran, and like 30ish everywhere else, no where near stable 30 tho |
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| 05:47.50 | doom0r | there's serious nvidia/core2 issues with wow atm |
| 05:48.09 | doom0r | half of nvidia's forums are that |
| 05:49.25 | durcyn | it's not much better with nehalem |
| 05:49.35 | durcyn | and i'd blame blizzard before i blamed nvidia |
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| 05:54.04 | quiescens | kill them |
| 05:54.29 | doom0r | i could get 200fps with vsync off in sw, now i can't get over 80 ever anywhere |
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| 06:01.32 | durcyn | something's fishy with the 3.0 graphics code too, turning shadow detail up makes video cards go splat |
| 06:03.18 | ckknight | one day, doom0r |
| 06:03.25 | ckknight | one day, we'll have 9001 fps |
| 06:03.31 | ckknight | and I'll be like that's over 9000! |
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| 06:05.33 | doom0r | i'll settle for 30 in a 25man atm |
| 06:06.11 | doom0r | i'm pretty sure the cpu is handling stuff it's not supposed to be |
| 06:06.20 | doom0r | and thus bottlenecking |
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| 06:11.05 | ckknight | you know what'd be hilarious? |
| 06:11.25 | ckknight | Maryl Streep playing Samus Aran in a Metroid-based movie |
| 06:11.29 | ckknight | you know we all want it. |
| 06:12.00 | doom0r | for the figure? |
| 06:12.43 | ckknight | well, she wouldn't always be wearing the helmet |
| 06:12.57 | doom0r | just get the chick that played the archangel michael in constantine |
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| 06:16.25 | doom0r | well, actually, she was a redhead wasn't she? |
| 06:16.40 | doom0r | elle mcpherson (sp?) |
| 06:16.42 | doom0r | imo |
| 06:17.26 | ckknight | dunno, I didn't bother to see it the whole way through |
| 06:17.54 | doom0r | i meant samus is a redhead |
| 06:18.16 | ckknight | no |
| 06:18.17 | ckknight | she's blonde |
| 06:18.45 | Torhal | Tilda Swinton was Gabriel |
| 06:18.50 | Torhal | Helluva name, that |
| 06:19.12 | doom0r | i beg to differ |
| 06:19.13 | doom0r | http://chrisdlugosz.net/x/metroid_ending.png |
| 06:19.48 | doom0r | taht is not blonde |
| 06:19.57 | Megalon | OMG IT'S A GIRL! |
| 06:20.28 | doom0r | like srsly |
| 06:20.40 | Torhal | No, it's a bunch of pixels. |
| 06:21.47 | Megalon | a bunch of pixels is enough for porn! |
| 06:26.13 | doom0r | makes note of Megalon's victory over Torhal |
| 06:26.40 | Torhal | BWAH! |
| 06:26.54 | Skellum | I found porn in a video game once... |
| 06:27.02 | Skellum | I could never play bubble bobble again :( |
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| 06:30.55 | ckknight | she's in Smash Bros, in Brawl, she can take off her suit |
| 06:32.58 | Thrae | I thought Samus had green hair? I remember her having green hair in the Varia suit in the original Metroid game. |
| 06:33.00 | ckknight | I thought she was blonde |
| 06:33.02 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 06:33.12 | ckknight | maybe she keeps dying it |
| 06:33.19 | quiescens | clearly |
| 06:33.20 | ckknight | females these days... |
| 06:33.37 | Thrae | Well if you follow the Metroid timeline past Metroid Fusion, she's now fused with her own suit... |
| 06:33.53 | doom0r | kinky |
| 06:33.55 | Thrae | I'm guessing they're not going with that |
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| 06:34.26 | Thrae | Nintendo -- always trying to de-feminize strong women and over-feminize weak ones |
| 06:35.47 | Thrae | I love how Princess Peach DS is basically the Princess running around PMS'ing. |
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| 06:52.53 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r118 / (3 files in 3 directories): -- More Fun items |
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| 07:03.39 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal * r17 Revelation.lua: |
| 07:03.42 | Repo | Re-added hook on HandleModifiedItemClick, as this is the only way to get to the "Will not be traded" slot in trade. Since the other two hooks call this function internally, I have it check for isHandled before passing info to the menu generator. |
| 07:03.45 | Repo | Re-instated usage of GetMouseFocus() only for calls from HandleModifiedItemClick() |
| 07:08.33 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal * r18 Revelation.lua: |
| 07:08.35 | Repo | Changed click register for trade frame button to be AnyUp, as LeftButtonUp did nothing. |
| 07:10.47 | sylvanaar | armory is so fail today |
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| 07:16.34 | doom0r | it cost me 10g to get roguepowerbars to not look awful =\ |
| 07:17.24 | doom0r | luckily dura hits on nightslayer and bloodfang aren't worse ;x |
| 07:25.11 | doom0r | mmm, sanity leave empty frame on the screen =\ |
| 07:26.33 | erikh | Thrae: I hear it's big in japan |
| 07:26.38 | erikh | sorry, couldn't resist |
| 07:35.11 | doom0r | mmm, i saved a frame per buff/debuff in roguepowerbar |
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| 07:35.22 | doom0r | tasty |
| 07:35.34 | doom0r | smoke sounds like a good idea |
| 07:35.42 | smoke_ | hi |
| 07:38.52 | smoke_ | does GetRaidRosterInfo return as an array? |
| 07:39.47 | doom0r | !api GetRaidRosterInfo |
| 07:39.48 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'GetRaidRosterInfo' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetRaidRosterInfo |
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| 07:40.38 | ckknight | smoke_: it returns a tuple |
| 07:40.55 | smoke_ | tuple? |
| 07:41.28 | ckknight | multiple values |
| 07:41.48 | ckknight | technically any multiple values can be considered a tuple, even if the number is 0 or 1 |
| 07:42.01 | ckknight | I shall explain: |
| 07:42.13 | ckknight | lua> function f() return 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 end; print(f()) |
| 07:42.13 | lua_bot | ckknight: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 |
| 07:42.19 | ckknight | see, f returns multiple values |
| 07:42.29 | ckknight | therefore print will have 5 arguments passed into it in that case |
| 07:42.42 | ckknight | lua> function f() return 1, 2, 3 end local a, b, c = f(); print(a, b, c) |
| 07:42.43 | lua_bot | ckknight: 1, 2, 3 |
| 07:47.41 | smoke_ | would using getraidrosterinfo be the best way to "find" if a player is in your raid? |
| 07:47.46 | smoke_ | or is there a better function fo rthat? |
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| 07:49.30 | doom0r | getraidrosterinfo would be how you would do what it says |
| 07:49.48 | doom0r | build a local table and use that until the roster changes |
| 07:51.17 | smoke_ | ah nm, UnitInRaid() |
| 07:51.48 | smoke_ | can i pause with Sleep()? |
| 07:51.59 | smoke_ | i tried and my addon wasnt loading |
| 07:52.04 | exor674 | not a good idea |
| 07:52.12 | smoke_ | whats the best way to delay? |
| 07:52.29 | doom0r | you pause, game pauses |
| 07:52.31 | doom0r | ;x |
| 07:52.49 | smoke_ | ah |
| 07:52.51 | smoke_ | i see lol |
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| 07:58.50 | Repo | 10o-uf_debuff-highlight: 03Ammo * r38 oUF_DebuffHighlight.lua: |
| 07:58.53 | Repo | treat debuffhighlight like an element instead of a hookhackjob |
| 07:58.55 | Repo | this fixes all the errorreports about a nil value blah |
| 08:03.37 | ckknight | smoke_: you want to learn to use timers |
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| 08:05.43 | doom0r | i can't for the life of me figure out why someone would create another entirely new frame and setbackrop on it rather than just doing it on the existing one |
| 08:06.59 | ckknight | frame level? |
| 08:07.10 | ckknight | or to make the frame's :GetRegions not be shitty |
| 08:07.37 | doom0r | it's a statusbar, then another frame is below it with just setbackdrop |
| 08:07.55 | ckknight | possible that there were framelevel issues |
| 08:08.51 | doom0r | well, there's a group of bars together, that have a frame below even more as a background |
| 08:09.01 | doom0r | i would think that would be worse |
| 08:10.10 | Shefki | I've seen a lot of unnecessary frames in addons. |
| 08:10.18 | doom0r | it's for buffs no less |
| 08:11.10 | ckknight | Shefki: I know I've done it unnecessarily in the past |
| 08:11.33 | ckknight | PitBull4 keeps frames to a relative minimum |
| 08:11.49 | ckknight | give or take |
| 08:12.27 | smoke_ | ok, i got everythng finished, i was just wondering since you said sleep() wont work |
| 08:12.36 | smoke_ | what is the timer function that i need to look up? |
| 08:13.10 | ckknight | smoke_: are you using Ace3? |
| 08:13.20 | smoke_ | no |
| 08:13.25 | smoke_ | its just a small addon |
| 08:14.01 | Shefki | ckknight: PitBull3 has a container frame for the auras that really has no purpose. |
| 08:14.13 | ckknight | Shefki: *shrug* do what you feel like for PB4 |
| 08:14.44 | ckknight | smoke_: you make a frame with CreateFrame("Frame"), call :SetScript(function(self, elapsed) dostuff() end) |
| 08:14.52 | Shefki | smoke_: Just cache the clock and hook OnUpdate. |
| 08:14.54 | ckknight | it will be called every frame tick |
| 08:14.59 | Shefki | Then you can tell how much time passes with that. |
| 08:15.05 | ckknight | elapsed is how much time between frame ticks |
| 08:15.17 | Shefki | What ck siad. |
| 08:15.19 | Shefki | said* |
| 08:15.35 | ckknight | Shefki: I spent too much time looking at /b/ |
| 08:15.39 | ckknight | now my evening has vanished |
| 08:15.46 | Shefki | At /b/ |
| 08:15.48 | Shefki | ? |
| 08:16.13 | ckknight | http://img.4chan.org/b/imgboard.html |
| 08:16.20 | Shefki | Oh |
| 08:16.38 | Shefki | People still pay attention to 4cahn? |
| 08:16.41 | Shefki | 4chan* |
| 08:17.09 | sztanphet | why wouldnt they |
| 08:20.04 | Shefki | I ended up watching the storm chasing stuff on the Discovery channel. |
| 08:20.36 | ckknight | that stuff is cool |
| 08:21.22 | Shefki | Kinda a trip down memory lane, used to do storm spotting when I lived in Kansas. |
| 08:21.33 | Shefki | Never tried to put myself in the path of stuff like they do. |
| 08:23.24 | Shefki | Tornado warnings are only issued when a verified spotter actually sees a tornado and calls it in. Watches can be done just off radar and what not. So whenever you see warning.... Someone is out there spotting. |
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| 08:28.40 | ckknight | I don't know if http://www.explosm.net/comics/1512/ is the real comic or not :-( |
| 08:31.24 | ckknight | this infomercial is hilarious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUbWjIKxrrs |
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| 08:34.02 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r92 / (2 files in 2 directories): Added more Death Knight procs. |
| 08:34.06 | Repo | Made a few more changes to the DataBroker tooltip. |
| 08:34.26 | doom0r | "You're gonna love my nuts." |
| 08:34.54 | ckknight | and do we ever. |
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| 08:52.37 | doom0r | ok, i'm getting back into playing a rogue |
| 08:52.40 | doom0r | just ganked a dk ;x |
| 08:57.17 | doom0r | Parnic: ping |
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| 09:36.12 | winkiller | Gnarfoz: nope, wasn't 25c3, just visiting my parents :P |
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| 10:05.08 | Fisker- | ~seen jnwhiteh |
| 10:05.10 | purl | jnwhiteh is currently on #wowprogramming (2d 16h 15m 58s) #wowuidev (2d 16h 15m 58s) #wowace (2d 16h 15m 58s) #curseforge (2d 16h 15m 58s). Has said a total of 168 messages. Is idling for 8d 8h 12m 40s, last said: 'and if you're not using the latest version, you should udate.'. |
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| 10:44.43 | Zhinjio | evenin' |
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| 11:30.10 | Repo | 10gem-helper: 03Xinhuan * r75 GemHelper.lua: Fixes to scanning other JC's tradelinks. |
| 11:32.24 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r26 / (7 files in 1 directory): Remember user's auction prices within a session. |
| 11:32.27 | Repo | Don't undercut our own auctions when clicking on them. |
| 11:32.29 | Repo | Give percentage progress in sell tab and buy tab. |
| 11:32.32 | Repo | Added a sanity check to buyout code. |
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| 11:55.51 | smoke_ | <BarTexture file="\Interface\AddOns\Recount\textures\statusbar\Otravi.tga"/> thats right? |
| 11:56.00 | smoke_ | for some reason my textures not showing up on my addon |
| 11:56.28 | nevcairiel | try without the first backslash |
| 11:57.26 | smoke_ | thanks :) |
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| 12:13.43 | ulrikft | the joy of someone higher level than you attacking you when you are at 50% hp and losing... |
| 12:13.46 | ulrikft | is so great. |
| 12:13.50 | thul | it is hard to describe :-P |
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| 12:27.47 | digmouse | I did that before |
| 12:35.07 | thul | ach, epic flyer is so expensive |
| 12:40.36 | digmouse | you mean that 5000G? |
| 12:41.43 | thul | mhm |
| 12:42.29 | Fisker- | y helo thar |
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| 12:43.26 | sacarasc | stabs Fisker- |
| 12:43.29 | sacarasc | brutally |
| 12:47.28 | Fisker- | blargh |
| 12:47.30 | Fisker- | i'm ded |
| 12:47.38 | sacarasc | huzzah! |
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| 12:50.52 | EthanCentaurai | lua> ("[Fisker-] [Fiskér-]"):gsub("%w+ %s+") |
| 12:50.52 | lua_bot | EthanCentaurai: luabot:1: bad argument #2 to 'gsub' (string/function/table expected) |
| 12:51.01 | EthanCentaurai | oops |
| 12:51.13 | EthanCentaurai | lua> ("[Fisker-] [Fiskér-]"):gsub("%w+ %s+", "%1 %2") |
| 12:51.14 | lua_bot | EthanCentaurai: [Fisker-] [Fiskér-], 0 |
| 12:51.24 | EthanCentaurai | lua> ("[Fisker-] [Fiskér-]"):gsub("%s+ %w+") |
| 12:51.25 | lua_bot | EthanCentaurai: luabot:1: bad argument #2 to 'gsub' (string/function/table expected) |
| 12:51.32 | EthanCentaurai | fails. |
| 12:51.43 | EthanCentaurai | lua> ("[Fisker-] [Fiskér-]"):gsub("%s+ %w+", "%1 %2") |
| 12:51.44 | lua_bot | EthanCentaurai: [Fisker-] [Fiskér-], 0 |
| 12:52.07 | EthanCentaurai | =/ |
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| 12:59.04 | quiescens | =\ |
| 12:59.08 | quiescens | what are you trying to do |
| 13:01.13 | Daemona | Happy New Year Sidney ! |
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| 13:02.54 | EthanCentaurai | %w doesn't seem to work for foreign characters, like é |
| 13:03.05 | EthanCentaurai | should I use %s instead? :P |
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| 13:07.27 | Zenom_ | is there an addon that will show me like a stack trace for each method called? so I can see if something is being called or not? |
| 13:07.48 | Zenom_ | For some reason I am not getting an event fired for USER_THREAT_LIST_UPDATE |
| 13:08.44 | EthanCentaurai | I use a print("event fired") call myself |
| 13:09.16 | EthanCentaurai | but aye that's not much help when it's not firing in the first place :P |
| 13:10.34 | EthanCentaurai | the event is UNIT_THREAT_LIST_UPDATE anyway :P |
| 13:11.04 | Zenom_ | isn't that what I said? :) |
| 13:11.13 | Zenom_ | nvm my code is right |
| 13:11.16 | Zenom_ | transposed it wrong here |
| 13:11.24 | Zenom_ | oh wait |
| 13:11.28 | Zenom_ | good call, thanks. |
| 13:11.38 | EthanCentaurai | :) |
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| 13:13.48 | Matrix110 | anyone from the UK here? |
| 13:14.03 | Matrix110 | I need some online shops besides amazon |
| 13:14.37 | EthanCentaurai | ebay :P |
| 13:14.57 | Matrix110 | ebay is ripoff :P |
| 13:15.00 | EthanCentaurai | what kind of shop? |
| 13:15.01 | Matrix110 | already checked |
| 13:15.36 | Matrix110 | general eletronic stuff |
| 13:16.32 | EthanCentaurai | www.rapidonline.com |
| 13:17.07 | Matrix110 | thanks |
| 13:17.43 | Matrix110 | :-( |
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| 13:27.42 | Matrix110 | gah none of the shops ships outside their stupid isle |
| 13:45.23 | Mikk | why do you need UK shops if you're not in UK? oO |
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| 13:49.43 | thul | oooh.. some people are just so.... nice. |
| 13:52.03 | Repo | 10gem-helper: 03kunda * r76 GemHelper_Localization.deDE.lua: deDE update |
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| 13:58.30 | Repo | 10materials-tracker: 03Shamino * r43 / (2 files in 1 directory): MaterialsTracker: |
| 13:58.32 | Repo | - embed LibQTip |
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| 14:09.05 | Daemona | wow |
| 14:09.11 | Daemona | thats the 4 world server down in 30 minutes |
| 14:09.19 | Daemona | is there a new crash exploit circulating? |
| 14:10.44 | Daemona | correction, 5th world server down |
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| 14:11.55 | EthanCentaurai | maybe Blizzard are installing hotfixes |
| 14:12.20 | EthanCentaurai | [Let It Snow] is bugged atm |
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| 14:12.38 | Daemona | erhm but FIVE times? |
| 14:14.40 | EthanCentaurai | Meh, what do I know |
| 14:14.51 | EthanCentaurai | speaking of knowing... |
| 14:14.54 | EthanCentaurai | lua> ("Wisé"):find("(%w+)") |
| 14:14.54 | lua_bot | EthanCentaurai: 1, 3, Wis |
| 14:15.16 | EthanCentaurai | what do I need to capture special letters? |
| 14:15.29 | Funkeh` | escape them |
| 14:15.37 | EthanCentaurai | lua> ("Wisé"):find("(%.-+)") |
| 14:15.38 | lua_bot | EthanCentaurai: nil |
| 14:15.42 | EthanCentaurai | oops |
| 14:15.51 | EthanCentaurai | lua> ("Wisé"):find("(.-)") |
| 14:15.52 | lua_bot | EthanCentaurai: 1, 0, |
| 14:15.54 | Funkeh` | I usually had ace2 installed so you could /print <specialchar> |
| 14:15.59 | Funkeh` | returns the escape code |
| 14:16.07 | thul | http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/10/20/atheistbus.jpg <- i want a poster like that for my birthday |
| 14:17.19 | EthanCentaurai | how am I to capture special characters when I need to :match names in the friends/guild roster? |
| 14:18.47 | EthanCentaurai | I need to pull names out of system messages like "<name> has come online" and match the name in a roster |
| 14:20.43 | EthanCentaurai | or shall I just tell everyone with foreign letters in their names to fuck off :P |
| 14:24.27 | Funkeh` | I just told you |
| 14:24.32 | Funkeh` | \but I was obviously invisible |
| 14:25.04 | EthanCentaurai | you told me to use escape characters |
| 14:25.16 | Funkeh` | indeedy |
| 14:25.21 | Fisker- | Does WoW care if there's space in conditionals? |
| 14:25.30 | Fisker- | like [target=exists, harm] |
| 14:25.38 | Fisker- | Would that be different from [target=exists,harm]? |
| 14:25.49 | Funkeh` | no |
| 14:26.41 | Fisker- | :E |
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| 14:27.36 | haste | EthanCentaurai: what string is it your trying to match? |
| 14:28.11 | EthanCentaurai | logon/logoff messages |
| 14:28.19 | EthanCentaurai | %s has come online |
| 14:29.22 | haste | just use [^%s]+ as a capture then |
| 14:29.48 | haste | or [%S]+, both the same |
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| 14:31.26 | Droolio | local unitWentOffline = '^'..ERR_FRIEND_OFFLINE_S:gsub("%%s", "(.-)")..'$' |
| 14:31.27 | Droolio | offlinePlayer = select(3, msg:find(unitWentOffline)) |
| 14:31.32 | Droolio | that one is for offline... |
| 14:31.47 | haste | why do you use find when you don't watn the return vars? |
| 14:31.49 | Droolio | think the online one has two %s arguments tho |
| 14:32.13 | EthanCentaurai | I have message:match("|Hplayer:(%w+)|h.-|h has come online") atm but it won't work with special letters |
| 14:32.27 | Droolio | then if you don't need it, don't use find... |
| 14:32.35 | haste | that's because they aren't a part of %w |
| 14:33.12 | haste | you could use .- there instead ofc |
| 14:33.42 | Droolio | ERR_FRIEND_ONLINE_SS = "|Hplayer:%s|h[%s]|h has come online." |
| 14:34.20 | Droolio | oh, there's a comment to that to... |
| 14:34.22 | Droolio | -- The name is passed in twice to accomodate player name links - "|Hplayer:%s|h[%s]|h" should not be localized. |
| 14:39.09 | haste | just replace %w with .- |
| 14:39.12 | haste | and the problem is solved |
| 14:49.21 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Zenom2 06pitbull4_zenom 07master * e1a8a75 Modules/ (6 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] adding my modules |
| 14:52.00 | gix | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=988 - the red range is on hostile targets, and the green on friendly targets, right? |
| 14:52.55 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Zenom2 06pitbull4_zenom 07master * a240daa Modules/ThreatBar/.DS_Store: [+1 commit] removed DS_Store |
| 14:53.02 | Fisker- | noooooooo |
| 14:53.06 | Fisker- | Green obviously means bad |
| 14:54.13 | gix | it does |
| 14:55.04 | Xinhuan | ckknight? |
| 14:55.17 | ckknight | yes? |
| 14:55.21 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/pokedex/ |
| 14:55.28 | Xinhuan | this project doesn't seem to have been synced to curse |
| 14:55.45 | Repo | 10buffinformant: 03akazik * r2 / (7 files in 2 directories): - initial release |
| 14:55.51 | ckknight | k, I'll look into it |
| 14:55.59 | Xinhuan | yeah sure |
| 14:56.19 | Xinhuan | author is wondering why |
| 14:56.27 | Xinhuan | since he's tagged it correctly and stuff |
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| 14:59.11 | ckknight | I'm wondering why |
| 14:59.21 | ckknight | :-P |
| 14:59.38 | Xinhuan | your job to find out, my job to get back to the author ;p |
| 14:59.50 | ckknight | my job starts when I get to the office |
| 14:59.56 | ckknight | I'm currently not there |
| 14:59.59 | Xinhuan | aha |
| 15:01.27 | EthanCentaurai | it's New Year's Eve, let the guy have his beer in peace :P |
| 15:01.58 | EthanCentaurai | thanks haste, .- works |
| 15:02.08 | ckknight | actually it's 9 AM and I'm sitting on my couch |
| 15:02.18 | ckknight | well, more like lying on my couch |
| 15:02.26 | ckknight | I got 3 hours of sleep |
| 15:02.32 | ckknight | bah |
| 15:02.49 | EthanCentaurai | :( |
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| 15:03.05 | EthanCentaurai | is it 2009 in America now? :) |
| 15:03.10 | ckknight | not yet |
| 15:03.15 | ckknight | I think I have tomorrow off |
| 15:03.20 | ckknight | need to check |
| 15:03.20 | viisual|work | You should =P |
| 15:03.41 | viisual|work | I have a shortened day today and off tommorow/friday woot! |
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| 15:09.35 | ckknight | well, I should put pants on. |
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| 15:13.18 | Repo | 10buffinformant: 03akazik * r3 / (3 files in 2 directories): - fixed libs |
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| 15:16.35 | Repo | 10buffinformant: 03akazik * r4 / (2 files in 1 directory): - fixed .pkgmeta |
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| 15:21.08 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03tomsommer * r589 / (3 files in 1 directory): - Add ability to set border texture |
| 15:21.10 | Repo | - Hide health percentage at 100% |
| 15:21.18 | Xinhuan | what happens if you cast Guardian Spirit |
| 15:21.20 | Xinhuan | on a paladin |
| 15:21.23 | Xinhuan | and that paladin casts DI |
| 15:21.58 | selckin1 | you don't "die" its more like unit_destroyed or whatever |
| 15:22.04 | selckin1 | so i supose you die. |
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| 15:29.10 | ckknight | hey all |
| 15:29.28 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03tomsommer * r590 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 15:29.31 | Repo | - Add ability to color health bar by class color (default: off) |
| 15:29.37 | ckknight | has anyone experienced the website being down for more than 10 seconds in the past â12 hours or so? |
| 15:35.55 | digmouse | I experienced around 2 or 3 time in the past 2 days |
| 15:36.12 | digmouse | just several seconds or no longer than 1 minute |
| 15:36.48 | Fisker- | OH MY GOD :3 |
| 15:37.17 | ckknight | digmouse: keep an eye out for any more freezes |
| 15:37.34 | ckknight | I did something â 12 hours ago |
| 15:37.53 | Fisker- | I just got "Gonna go when the volcano blows" |
| 15:38.00 | Fisker- | Without being dead the whole encounter |
| 15:38.03 | durcyn | ckknight: converted to innodb tables? ;) |
| 15:38.04 | digmouse | I'm wandering around curse and ace looking for good mods for ours so if something happen I will know |
| 15:38.18 | ckknight | durcyn: no, I disabled tls. |
| 15:38.26 | digmouse | s/ours/hours/ |
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| 15:38.40 | ckknight | digmouse: good mods? |
| 15:38.44 | ckknight | addons or moderators? |
| 15:38.50 | digmouse | addons OFC |
| 15:38.55 | ckknight | oh |
| 15:38.55 | Pneumatus | well we know curse has no good moderators |
| 15:39.09 | ckknight | PitBull4's looking good, digmouse ;-) |
| 15:39.15 | ckknight | plugs his own products |
| 15:39.34 | digmouse | :D I'm already using it for solo purposes |
| 15:40.32 | ckknight | :-P |
| 15:40.40 | ckknight | that's cheating |
| 15:41.00 | ckknight | I have a working party implementation locally |
| 15:41.04 | ckknight | but I want to clean things up first |
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| 15:41.52 | digmouse | curse and ace has been temporarily hard to open minutes to minutes in the past day |
| 15:42.19 | ckknight | I only care about the last 12 hours |
| 15:42.21 | ckknight | :-P |
| 15:42.25 | ckknight | and future experience |
| 15:42.37 | ckknight | there is a DB issue |
| 15:42.40 | digmouse | the last 12 hours for me is around 2 down time |
| 15:42.42 | ckknight | I don't know whether or not I've fixed it |
| 15:42.47 | digmouse | less than 1 minute |
| 15:42.51 | ckknight | hmm |
| 15:42.53 | Repo | 10buffinformant: 03akazik * r5 / (3 files in 1 directory): - fixed no-lib in .toc |
| 15:42.55 | Repo | - added deDE locale |
| 15:43.26 | ckknight | goddammit |
| 15:43.29 | ckknight | issue still exists |
| 15:43.42 | ckknight | at least it appears that way |
| 15:43.44 | ckknight | in any event, grr |
| 15:43.59 | Repo | 10buffinformant: 03akazik 04v3.0-6 * r6 : Tagging as v3.0-6 |
| 15:46.40 | Daemona | http://www.wired.com/culture/culturereviews/news/2008/12/YE8_vaporware?currentPage=3 |
| 15:46.46 | Daemona | expectations met for another year |
| 15:50.05 | digmouse | I got 11 minutes left for my 2008 |
| 15:50.23 | digmouse | 10 minutes |
| 15:50.48 | durcyn | keep us posted. |
| 15:51.52 | digmouse | no never will |
| 15:52.01 | Repo | 10buffinformant: 03akazik * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory): - added version string to options menu |
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| 15:57.55 | *** topic/#wowace is Happy Festivus! | http://www.wowace.com | http://paste.wowace.com/ | http://www.lua.org | http://www.wowace.com/a/author-rewards-program-launching-soon/ | New .15 Mac Build! http://static.curseforge.net/client/Curse%20Client%20Setup%202.0.0.15.dmg || CC Window Test Build 2.0.1.0.RC1 http://tinyurl.com/5l6cfz | Username changes: http://www.wowace.com/request-name-change/ |
| 16:00.37 | digmouse | Happy 2009 to myself :D |
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| 16:16.20 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03yoshimo * r153 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: deDE update |
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| 16:20.36 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r44 / (3 files in 3 directories): ZOMGBuffs: |
| 16:20.38 | Repo | - Fixed blessings module not buffing when Bacon of Light and other tracked spells are used. |
| 16:20.41 | Repo | - Now uses Dalaran varients of spells on right click buff raid popup. |
| 16:20.57 | selckin1 | e |
| 16:20.58 | EthanCentaurai | Bacon of Light :D |
| 16:21.04 | EthanCentaurai | Pigadin |
| 16:21.24 | selckin1 | i hate how it spams addon channel like crazy |
| 16:21.25 | Zeksie | :) |
| 16:21.43 | EthanCentaurai | selckin1: /ignore Repo ftw :P |
| 16:21.49 | selckin1 | i mean zomg |
| 16:22.05 | Zeksie | erm? it doesn't. |
| 16:22.47 | selckin1 | it does |
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| 16:22.55 | Zeksie | no more or less than any other mod that has to communicate. |
| 16:23.07 | Zeksie | we can't magically divine things.. so we use the channel |
| 16:23.18 | selckin1 | way more then pally power for example |
| 16:23.20 | selckin1 | like 10x |
| 16:23.58 | Zeksie | ok.. but you're comparing a mod that does blessings only, for a mod that does lots more for all classes, plus blessings auto config etc. |
| 16:24.30 | Zeksie | traffic's only generated when you join raid, and when things change. light buff assignments |
| 16:24.40 | Zeksie | not like it's going all the time |
| 16:26.10 | selckin1 | thats not what i see, but don't have any real data to back it up, next raid maybe i'll log it :\ |
| 16:26.12 | Repo | 10prat_signon: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.2.2-3-ga039f6b Core.lua: [+3 commits] |
| 16:26.15 | Repo | a039f6b: Only create a playerlink if the user came online. |
| 16:26.17 | Repo | fc2fd96: Fix for special letters in names/message. |
| 16:26.20 | Repo | 6871284: Fix bug with raid/party/bg joins and /who queries for Prat-3.0 users. |
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| 16:38.47 | Fisker- | haha |
| 16:38.47 | Fisker- | i came |
| 16:38.57 | Fisker- | This paladin was randomly trying to do the drake daily |
| 16:39.05 | Fisker- | and i've cought him 4 times earlier trying to do it |
| 16:39.08 | Fisker- | so i ganked him each time |
| 16:39.19 | Fisker- | Then this time he shielded and ran into the village and /rofl'ing at me |
| 16:39.34 | Fisker- | But instead of going to the quest npc in a hurry he got killed by me after his shield went off :D |
| 16:39.56 | Stanzilla | nasty |
| 16:41.23 | Fisker- | he's just tried to kill me 3 times in the village now :D |
| 16:41.30 | Fisker- | safe to assume he's pretty mad onw |
| 16:41.32 | Fisker- | now |
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| 16:43.36 | SunTsu | # |
| 16:43.44 | SunTsu | fc |
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| 16:48.25 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r29 MillHelp.lua: add koKR locale, thanks netcrasher |
| 16:49.44 | ckknight | nevcairiel: you there? |
| 16:49.50 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 16:50.02 | ckknight | I'm doing the importer now |
| 16:50.05 | ckknight | and wondering something |
| 16:50.06 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia 041.0.9 * r30 : Tagging as 1.0.9 |
| 16:50.22 | ckknight | in you're importing enUS, should it delete keys that you don't import or how should it handle that? |
| 16:50.30 | ckknight | just add/update? |
| 16:50.39 | nevcairiel | a flag maybe? |
| 16:50.42 | ckknight | hrm.. |
| 16:50.46 | ckknight | yea, that'd work. |
| 16:51.26 | ckknight | yea, and have it only appear to members as to not be confusing |
| 16:51.31 | ckknight | (note: only authors on the project can edit the enUS translations) |
| 16:52.22 | Xinhuan | ckknight |
| 16:52.28 | Xinhuan | what about keys that look like this |
| 16:52.28 | ckknight | Xinhuan |
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| 16:52.42 | Xinhuan | L["SOME_DESC"] = "This is a very very very very very long description" |
| 16:52.49 | ckknight | what's the issue? |
| 16:53.00 | Xinhuan | how will the localizer app handle that |
| 16:53.07 | ckknight | as expected. |
| 16:53.26 | ckknight | english text isn't required to be the key |
| 16:53.37 | Xinhuan | a translator would end up seeing "SOME_DESC" as the text to be translated? |
| 16:53.41 | Xinhuan | or is this not an issue? |
| 16:53.58 | ckknight | they'd see Key: SOME_DESC |
| 16:54.05 | ckknight | English: This is a very very very very very long description |
| 16:54.59 | ckknight | Current German (deDE): Dies ist ein sehr sehr sehr lange Beschreibung |
| 16:55.11 | ckknight | New translation: [ ] |
| 16:55.15 | ckknight | or something like that |
| 16:55.22 | Stanzilla | *eine |
| 16:55.25 | Stanzilla | *hides* |
| 16:55.25 | ckknight | oh, then context afterward |
| 16:55.33 | ckknight | Stanzilla: yea, that's right |
| 16:55.37 | Stanzilla | sorry^^ |
| 16:55.43 | ckknight | Xinhuan: if key â english text, both are shown. |
| 16:55.47 | Droolio | is the localisation app working now? |
| 16:55.53 | Repo | 10huntard: 03Xocide 07master * v0.3-4-gba31928 Huntard.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed up some of the code. |
| 16:55.56 | ckknight | technically yes, Droolio |
| 16:55.58 | ckknight | plz test |
| 16:55.59 | ckknight | kthx |
| 16:56.03 | ckknight | no importing yet |
| 16:56.04 | ckknight | working on that |
| 16:56.25 | Xinhuan | when you are ready, try importing Omen's localization files |
| 16:56.30 | Xinhuan | ;) |
| 16:57.00 | Stanzilla | curse omen's localization files! |
| 16:57.04 | ckknight | Xinhuan: mind pasting them up? |
| 16:57.14 | ckknight | I don't have Omen downloaded |
| 16:57.16 | Xinhuan | they are quite long, you sure? |
| 16:57.21 | Droolio | i clicked on the setup localisation link earlier and it turned into 'edit' but it's still linking to the setup page... |
| 16:57.27 | Stanzilla | "quite long" |
| 16:57.28 | ckknight | Xinhuan: a subset, then |
| 16:57.43 | ckknight | Droolio: go to /localization/ |
| 16:58.05 | ckknight | (after your project's url) |
| 16:58.06 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz still needs to fix the german locale! |
| 16:58.28 | Xinhuan | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/paste/71/ |
| 16:58.28 | Droolio | aha, now i see the create phrase pulldown. sweet, didn't see that earlier... |
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| 16:58.51 | Xinhuan | the end of the file is the trickier part |
| 16:58.56 | Xinhuan | since i have really long FAQs there |
| 16:58.59 | ckknight | Xinhuan: not tricky |
| 16:59.13 | Xinhuan | also the Lua highlighter sucks |
| 16:59.16 | ckknight | Xinhuan: I wrote a lua => python converter |
| 16:59.24 | ckknight | Xinhuan: take that up with the pygments people :-P |
| 16:59.25 | Xinhuan | its highlighting keywords in the text string surrounded by [[ ]] ;p |
| 16:59.30 | ckknight | yea... |
| 17:02.45 | Droolio | what's the deal with mexican localisation btw? is it fully supported by blizz? |
| 17:03.05 | Xinhuan | it is |
| 17:03.07 | Xinhuan | but if you are like me |
| 17:03.15 | Xinhuan | you will use the following "shortcut" |
| 17:03.17 | Xinhuan | local L = AceLocale:NewLocale("Omen", "esES") or AceLocale:NewLocale("Omen", "esMX") |
| 17:03.17 | Xinhuan | if not L then return end |
| 17:03.29 | Xinhuan | i.e use the same darn localization table for both languages ;p |
| 17:03.41 | Droolio | ah :) |
| 17:05.14 | Droolio | can anyone edit strings in the localisation app? or will it work with roles... |
| 17:06.59 | digmouse | I prefer rols |
| 17:07.03 | digmouse | *roles |
| 17:07.32 | Xinhuan | digmouse, want to translate "Showing %s's JC" to chinese for me? :p |
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| 17:07.54 | digmouse | Showing %s's JewelCrafting? |
| 17:07.57 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 17:08.01 | ckknight | Xinhuan: CIA-43 Pygments: gbrandl trunk * 728:e2d82f5caaa6 / (CHANGES pygments/lexers/agile.py): Support multiline strings in Lua lexer. |
| 17:08.06 | ckknight | hehe |
| 17:08.12 | digmouse | see your PM in seconds |
| 17:09.20 | Droolio | i'm seeing weird results under the 'activity log for localizations' menu... |
| 17:09.42 | ckknight | Droolio: link |
| 17:10.05 | Droolio | http://www.wowace.com/admin/activities/localization_localization-6-localization/ |
| 17:10.34 | Droolio | it's showing the same string i just added for every entry |
| 17:11.37 | Droolio | oh nice, it just automagically updated the entry age without refresh |
| 17:14.24 | ckknight | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/paste/71/ |
| 17:14.33 | ckknight | Droolio: eep, bug |
| 17:14.46 | Xinhuan | ah |
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| 17:14.59 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont * r72 Core.lua: sortnext bug |
| 17:15.25 | ckknight | Xinhuan: (he fixed the parser) |
| 17:15.36 | Xinhuan | yeah excellent :) |
| 17:18.33 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont 04v2.0 RC1 * r73 : Overhaul of the event system and sorting bugfixes. |
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| 17:22.08 | Kivin | What addon do I need to place a grid on the screen to aid in centering frames? |
| 17:22.16 | ckknight | Align? |
| 17:22.19 | ckknight | I think |
| 17:22.20 | durcyn | yeah, Align. |
| 17:22.21 | Kivin | that's the one, thanks ck |
| 17:22.28 | Pneumatus | that or GraphPaper |
| 17:22.28 | Kivin | thanks both |
| 17:23.00 | Kivin | Neither on Curse? |
| 17:23.08 | Pneumatus | both only on wowi iirc |
| 17:23.31 | Kivin | Oki |
| 17:25.58 | ckknight | so clearly I need to convince one of them to cross-post |
| 17:26.03 | ckknight | ...or write an awesome competitor |
| 17:26.12 | ckknight | or not care... |
| 17:26.13 | Kivin | lol |
| 17:26.20 | ckknight | 3 valid choices |
| 17:26.23 | ckknight | going with (c) for now |
| 17:26.33 | Kivin | should only take ten minutes to write a decent align competitor :P |
| 17:27.06 | ckknight | but I could make it awesome |
| 17:27.11 | ckknight | and name it after a farm animal |
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| 17:27.19 | Kivin | true story |
| 17:28.16 | ckknight | mine would be more awesome, though for the sheer fact that it'd be "Ace'd" |
| 17:28.20 | ckknight | whatever that means. |
| 17:28.28 | Torhal | ckknight: Name it ChickenWire |
| 17:28.32 | Kivin | cackles. |
| 17:28.36 | ckknight | oh, that'd be delightful, Torhal |
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| 17:29.11 | Xinhuan | or Coop |
| 17:29.24 | ckknight | ChickenWire makes at least some sense |
| 17:29.40 | ckknight | goddammit |
| 17:29.46 | ckknight | now I have the urge to write an addon while at work |
| 17:29.51 | Xinhuan | anyhow, no point recreating an existing mod unless it is better ;p |
| 17:29.59 | ckknight | Xinhuan: but it'll be "Ace'd"! |
| 17:30.07 | Torhal | facepalms. |
| 17:30.13 | Xinhuan | tell Arrowmaster to Ace TrainWhistle |
| 17:30.28 | ckknight | I'm pretty sure that was done for the lulz. |
| 17:30.53 | Xinhuan | trade channel randomness: "WTB eternal life" "me too" |
| 17:31.08 | ckknight | lol |
| 17:31.12 | Zenom | lol |
| 17:31.19 | ckknight | forgot to WTB eternal youth |
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| 17:31.32 | ckknight | good luck being 9001 with hip issues |
| 17:31.42 | ckknight | you'll end up like the Face of Boe |
| 17:31.44 | ckknight | you know it. |
| 17:32.10 | Zenom | Well im 9000 and no hip issues yet. |
| 17:32.37 | ckknight | so tell me |
| 17:32.46 | ckknight | since the world's only 6000 years old or so |
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| 17:33.01 | Zenom | I existed before space and time. |
| 17:33.05 | Zenom | Therefore I must be "god" |
| 17:33.08 | ckknight | how did Adam and Eve's marital relations differ before and after the apple debacle? |
| 17:33.23 | ckknight | my guess is that the sex after was probably better |
| 17:33.25 | ckknight | but more bickering. |
| 17:33.26 | Kivin | How exactly does aura filtering work in Pitbull? I'm trying to figure out a way to see my DK diseases and what have you but not all the other random debuff spam |
| 17:33.38 | Zenom | Well make up sex is always good. |
| 17:33.50 | ckknight | Kivin: it works subtastically. |
| 17:33.57 | Kivin | orly? |
| 17:34.13 | ckknight | yarly! |
| 17:34.47 | ckknight | Kivin: in any event, it's being rewritten for PB4 |
| 17:34.54 | Kivin | that'd be nice |
| 17:35.07 | Zenom | You should add in a hide when not in combat function too ckk |
| 17:35.14 | Zenom | or a fade after x seconds from combat |
| 17:35.15 | Zenom | :) |
| 17:35.16 | Kivin | I've been telling myself it's time to get EBB since the day I rolled DK, and never bothered. Guess today is time |
| 17:35.19 | ckknight | Zenom: to auras specifically? |
| 17:35.27 | Zenom | To the entire frame. |
| 17:35.31 | Zenom | Sorry was a little off topic. |
| 17:35.44 | ckknight | Zenom: ah, there's a module in PB3 for that |
| 17:35.46 | Zenom | Like hide the player, frame etc |
| 17:36.18 | ckknight | I want to add proper fade methods so that modules don't fight |
| 17:36.32 | ckknight | and I want animation rather than instant fading |
| 17:36.34 | ckknight | handled for you |
| 17:36.56 | ckknight | dreams |
| 17:37.03 | Zenom | So a friend of mine had an idea for a mod, but i don't think its doable. |
| 17:37.20 | ckknight | let's hear it |
| 17:37.20 | Zenom | Like you have a listener |
| 17:37.26 | Zenom | 1 sec skype |
| 17:37.27 | Kivin | Why can't I resize my partypet frame w/o resizing my party frame o_O bug? |
| 17:37.38 | Zenom | after this phone call i will explain |
| 17:37.50 | Zenom | khas to do with controlling a character from another account via like hidden chat commands |
| 17:38.16 | ckknight | for the most part, that's undoable |
| 17:38.29 | ckknight | Kivin: yea, but PB3's no longer developed. |
| 17:38.32 | ckknight | Kivin: wait for PB4. |
| 17:38.40 | Kivin | Oki. What's the eta? |
| 17:38.55 | Camci | will settings for PB3 be working for PB4? |
| 17:38.59 | ckknight | for groups, I wanna get that done around tomorrow |
| 17:39.15 | ckknight | don't think tonight is viable, new year's and all |
| 17:39.27 | ckknight | Shefki's working on Auras |
| 17:39.37 | ckknight | Zenom is making random modules |
| 17:39.40 | ckknight | a lot is already done |
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| 17:39.49 | ckknight | Camci: how do you mean? |
| 17:39.59 | Kivin | Is it based on Rock or Ace3? |
| 17:40.04 | Camci | frame seetings we have for PB3, will work for PB4 or gotta start over? |
| 17:40.21 | ckknight | Kivin: Ace3 |
| 17:40.25 | Kivin | *Nod* |
| 17:40.36 | ckknight | Camci: start over, but it should take you less than 5 minutes rather than â2 hours |
| 17:40.43 | ckknight | Camci: do you have a complicated setup? |
| 17:40.47 | Zenom | OK so for the module. His idea was to have like a listener module that say user A could allow user B to send commands. User B would then be able to send a command like "dosmite" |
| 17:40.54 | Zenom | and it would do smite on the remote users machine. |
| 17:40.59 | ckknight | Zenom: yea, impossible |
| 17:41.01 | Camci | not that complicated but still took me around 3 hours :P |
| 17:41.06 | Zenom | All via a hidden interface so that people who went afk could still be used. |
| 17:41.14 | Camci | but 5 minutes? that its cool |
| 17:41.16 | ckknight | Camci: okay, take a screenshot in your various config modes. |
| 17:41.27 | ckknight | screenshots, if necessary |
| 17:41.32 | ckknight | and send to me |
| 17:41.37 | Camci | okey |
| 17:41.56 | ckknight | and I'll go through with you if there are any things I can do to make your setup time faster |
| 17:42.02 | gix | or use a converter addon |
| 17:42.08 | ckknight | no, gix |
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| 17:42.16 | ckknight | that's basically impossible due to the change in architecture |
| 17:42.53 | Camci | nice ckknight, will grab some sceenies when i log in, got ppl coming over nowish so gotta get me ready. |
| 17:43.00 | ckknight | Camci: alright, cool |
| 17:43.09 | Camci | so happy new your to all of you and may this new year bring many more cool addons :D |
| 17:43.10 | ckknight | and actually, I suspect that PB4 will be more customizable than PB3 |
| 17:43.11 | gix | hm. why would it be impossible? |
| 17:43.13 | ckknight | but easier still |
| 17:43.14 | Zenom | I must be the only guy in here that will be at his machine tonight on New Years Eve :) |
| 17:43.24 | gix | Zenom: prolly not |
| 17:43.28 | ckknight | gix: because layouts are defined deterministically instead of ad-hoc |
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| 17:43.41 | Xinhuan | if it makes you feel any better, its already new year here |
| 17:43.41 | ckknight | Zenom: I'm not sure what we're doing for New Years', actually |
| 17:43.54 | ckknight | Ch-ch-ch-chinaman! |
| 17:44.01 | ckknight | ...sorry, I had to |
| 17:44.03 | Zenom | lol |
| 17:44.11 | Xinhuan | ck you can check out why the project i linekd earlier didn't sync to curse hehe |
| 17:44.21 | gix | ckknight: well i'm not saying it would be trivial to write one |
| 17:44.43 | ckknight | gix: I don't plan on doing it, and I'll discourage anyone who tries. |
| 17:44.56 | ckknight | Xinhuan: ah, forgot about that, was at home when you asked |
| 17:45.33 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/pokedex/files/ |
| 17:45.38 | Xinhuan | is the project |
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| 17:46.30 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:47.30 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r960 / (5 files in 2 directories): Recount: |
| 17:47.32 | Repo | - Added group based content collection filters, and main window visibility config. Added states are Solo, Party and Raid. |
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| 17:47.59 | NeoTron | man have to report to Elsia that I don't want recount to break quests and LOG MY KEYS zomg |
| 17:50.32 | ckknight | Xinhuan: I have informed people |
| 17:51.02 | Xinhuan | whats the issue with it? |
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| 17:52.36 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal 043.0.3-1.0.3-beta * r19 : Tagging as 3.0.3-1.0.3-beta |
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| 17:55.57 | ckknight | Xinhuan: Roleplay is having trouble syncing |
| 17:55.58 | ckknight | or something |
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| 18:01.31 | Torhal | NeoTron: Log your keys? Bwah? |
| 18:01.32 | NeoTron | hmm. Seems like I might be able to get FIOS now |
| 18:01.52 | NeoTron | Torhal: there was a discussion last night how people blame Recount for breaking quests, being a keylogger etc |
| 18:02.00 | NeoTron | or rather yesterday |
| 18:02.02 | Torhal | Uhm. LOL? |
| 18:02.36 | NeoTron | rigght |
| 18:06.26 | Pneumatus | if you rename your questhelper folder to recount perhaps! |
| 18:07.03 | ckknight | P.S. QH is a keylogger |
| 18:07.06 | ckknight | hush-hush, though |
| 18:07.08 | ckknight | it's a secret |
| 18:07.10 | ckknight | we're in cahoots |
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| 18:07.35 | ckknight | okay, I'm gonna go to lunch |
| 18:07.53 | viisual|work | I hope I get keylogged. |
| 18:07.56 | Fisker- | so is recount ckknight |
| 18:08.14 | ckknight | viisual|work: it truly is an honor |
| 18:10.12 | Pneumatus | next you'll be telling us the curse client is a keylogger |
| 18:10.42 | Zhinjio | g'mornin' |
| 18:10.50 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Feh! |
| 18:12.40 | Zhinjio | sup Torhal |
| 18:13.00 | obble | I hear spartanUI is a secret porn site |
| 18:13.02 | Torhal | Trying to fix Revelation. That round of changes I made the other night broke enchanting via trade window. |
| 18:13.55 | Zenom | Mark me down for hating all things Adobe. |
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| 18:17.59 | Torhal | Zhinjio: I actually reverted a bunch of things and re-did them in more of a sane manner, like hooking HandleModifiedItemClick again (only way to get to the trade window) and using GetMouseFocus() only when a focus wasn't supplied to the menu function (via HandleModifiedItemClick) |
| 18:18.18 | Torhal | Goddamn kludges. |
| 18:18.57 | Zhinjio | yuck |
| 18:19.38 | Torhal | I also had to re-add the frame name checking because it was possible to click on the inspect window |
| 18:19.54 | Torhal | But I now have it check for BagginsBag and BagnonBag so they work. |
| 18:20.55 | Zhinjio | seems to me there'd be a different event to hook in the trade window |
| 18:21.03 | Zhinjio | did you look at the framexml for that guy? |
| 18:21.08 | Torhal | Yup. |
| 18:21.13 | Zhinjio | feh |
| 18:21.36 | Torhal | The .xml file is where HandleModifiedItemClick is called |
| 18:21.42 | Torhal | There's nothing useful in the .lua |
| 18:22.28 | Torhal | And despite all that, enchanting in trade is still broken. Apparently I changed something else and I just don't see it. |
| 18:24.23 | Torhal | Anywho: I need a suggestion for an sRaidFrames replacement. It taints like a mofo. |
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| 18:34.00 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal * r20 Revelation.lua: |
| 18:34.09 | Repo | In IterEnchant(): Reversed strfind() arguments for correct effect. |
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| 18:45.45 | Tinyboom | Happy new year everyone :) |
| 18:48.35 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal * r21 Revelation.lua: |
| 18:48.37 | Repo | In IsValidFrame(): Split the five strfind() calls into five if checks from one. No sense checking them all if one is valid. |
| 18:50.48 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal 043.0.3-1.0.4-beta * r22 : Tagging as 3.0.3-1.0.4-beta |
| 18:57.04 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Zenom2 06pitbull4_zenom 07master * fdcbe52 Modules/ExperienceBar/ExperienceBar.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed problem with division by nil when rested xp is non-existant. |
| 18:57.38 | Torhal | Did he seriously clone a work-in-progress? |
| 18:57.39 | Torhal | Heh |
| 18:57.56 | Zenom | Um, i'm right here, and I'm helping ckknight with stuff. |
| 18:58.01 | Zenom | Just pushing to this repo. |
| 18:58.04 | Zenom | For him to checkout from. |
| 18:58.14 | Torhal | Ok. Seemed rather odd. |
| 18:58.32 | Zenom | No different than a fork. |
| 18:58.32 | Skellum | yea...you coulda been...doin..stuff |
| 18:58.44 | Repo | 10materials-tracker: 03Shamino * r44 / (3 files in 1 directory): MaterialsTracker: |
| 18:58.47 | Repo | - removed enhtooltip, replaced with LibExtraTip which is now embedded |
| 18:58.52 | NeoTron | Zenom: shhh we expect to talk about people doing stuff that are not here, so ... begone! |
| 18:58.57 | Torhal | Well, I didn't know you were helping him...but forking something that isn't finished seemed odd. |
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| 18:59.17 | Zenom | Easier than zipping up modifications and sending them to him via email. |
| 18:59.22 | NeoTron | ok Zenom is gone, start talking crap about him! |
| 18:59.28 | Torhal | This is true. |
| 18:59.33 | NeoTron | I think in part that is how you're "supposed" to work with GIT? |
| 18:59.40 | NeoTron | or one of the benefits of GIT or something |
| 18:59.43 | Zenom | Yep. |
| 18:59.58 | Skellum | http://pics.nase-bohren.de/online_vs_real_life.jpg |
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| 19:04.27 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 19:04.37 | Torhal | ckknight: Be welcome in your backness! |
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| 19:05.19 | ckknight | Torhal: k. |
| 19:05.41 | ckknight | NeoTron: yea, pretty much. |
| 19:05.53 | ckknight | NeoTron: well, it's one way. The way I prefer, at least |
| 19:07.43 | Skellum | How is everyones 1st progressing? |
| 19:07.46 | Skellum | Err well |
| 19:07.49 | Skellum | Eve of the 1st |
| 19:08.37 | ckknight | well |
| 19:08.46 | ckknight | got back from lunch, should get back to the localization app |
| 19:08.51 | ckknight | http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/ is pretty cool |
| 19:09.36 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Feh. Found GetTradeTargetItemLink, but apparently it's a C function. Yay. |
| 19:11.28 | ckknight | "<3" has been banned, apparently |
| 19:11.35 | ckknight | but I <3 "<3" :-( |
| 19:11.41 | Torhal | Bwah? |
| 19:11.48 | ckknight | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081230/ap_on_re_us/banned_words |
| 19:13.06 | Torhal | Oh, fuck them. These are the same people who "banned" the word "organic" because idiot marketers use it instead of "all natural" |
| 19:13.19 | Torhal | I mean, of _course_ eggs are "organic". |
| 19:13.49 | ckknight | delicious organs. |
| 19:17.02 | Skellum | so...I have all the parts to build my new comp ordered from new egg |
| 19:17.14 | Skellum | Now I keep looking at the site all excited waiting for it to ship >_< |
| 19:17.29 | kenlyric | wait, why do you say "of course" |
| 19:18.49 | kenlyric | i thought organic in eggs meant the chickens had been fed a specific type of diet. |
| 19:21.32 | ckknight | it'd be nice if there was some kind of certification to be called "Organic" (or some other term) |
| 19:21.49 | ckknight | but there's not, so *shrug* |
| 19:21.51 | robo\afk | Thank goodness we have that overhere :D |
| 19:23.09 | ckknight | where is "here"? |
| 19:23.13 | robo\afk | Denmark |
| 19:23.17 | ckknight | ah |
| 19:24.10 | robo\afk | We get an "Ø"-stamp on goods that has been certified as organic by the Danish authorities |
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| 19:24.31 | ckknight | question: would referring to you as a "Butter Cookie" offend you? |
| 19:24.54 | robo\afk | I have no idea what that is :< |
| 19:25.04 | ckknight | Reference to Kjeldsen's Butter Cookies, a fairly famous export from Denmark. |
| 19:25.12 | robo\afk | ah yeah, those >_> |
| 19:25.15 | ckknight | it's from a racial slur database. |
| 19:25.29 | robo\afk | I generally prefer DKDK and so does Fisker- |
| 19:25.40 | ckknight | Denmark Death Knight? |
| 19:25.41 | ckknight | :-P |
| 19:25.53 | robo\afk | indeed |
| 19:25.59 | ckknight | hehe |
| 19:26.05 | ckknight | Fisker plays a pally. |
| 19:26.05 | Kivin | So that's where all those death knights came from all of a sudden a month ago. |
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| 19:26.25 | robo\afk | too many Danish players on our realm tend to add dk to the end of their name |
| 19:26.47 | robo\afk | .. so when Death Knights were revealed, it was decided that danish death knights were to add DKDK ;P |
| 19:27.01 | Torhal | kenlyric: I'm saying the term "organic" as used instead of "naturally raised" or somesuch, is idiotic. |
| 19:27.26 | kenlyric | true |
| 19:27.33 | kenlyric | it's a dumb term overall, not just for eggs |
| 19:27.36 | Torhal | Aye |
| 19:27.44 | kenlyric | Inorganic tomatoes, on sale now! |
| 19:27.49 | Torhal | Exactly |
| 19:28.08 | Kivin | Do they taste like chicken? |
| 19:28.47 | ckknight | Torhal: what is "Natural", though? |
| 19:28.59 | ckknight | Torhal: how large must a pen be to be natural? |
| 19:29.04 | ckknight | or do they need to be wild? |
| 19:29.08 | ckknight | too many variables :-( |
| 19:29.10 | Torhal | Bah. |
| 19:29.17 | Torhal | That's "cage-free", BTW. |
| 19:29.22 | Zenom | omg the pb4 frames are driving me bonkers :) |
| 19:29.25 | robo\afk | aka non-Burhøns |
| 19:29.28 | erikh | man, you guys are worse than barrens chat sometimes :) |
| 19:29.45 | Torhal | erikh: Nobody said a thing about Chuck Norris. |
| 19:29.57 | ckknight | Zenom: ? |
| 19:29.58 | erikh | well you just ruined that, now didn't you? :) |
| 19:30.02 | Torhal | BWAH! |
| 19:30.07 | Zenom | ckknight: the spacing |
| 19:30.20 | ckknight | Zenom: ah, yea, I plan to add options for that. |
| 19:30.28 | ckknight | ...file a ticket |
| 19:30.46 | Zenom | and maybe borders |
| 19:30.55 | Zenom | kk |
| 19:32.19 | Kivin | Is there a way to make macros that set raid icons? |
| 19:32.45 | ckknight | Zenom: make a ticket for that, too |
| 19:32.56 | Zenom | Cam I put in the same ticket? |
| 19:33.02 | ckknight | no |
| 19:33.04 | ckknight | absolutely not |
| 19:33.06 | Zenom | You suck. |
| 19:33.07 | Zenom | LOL |
| 19:33.14 | ckknight | I made a knowledge base article about this |
| 19:33.32 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/how-to-file-tickets/ |
| 19:33.34 | viisual|work | ckknight, how was lunch? ;) |
| 19:33.51 | ckknight | viisual|work: good, had Teriyaki chicken and was invited to a New Year's party |
| 19:34.02 | ckknight | I'm going somewhere else, though |
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| 19:36.00 | Repo | 10nauticus: 03Drool * r118 / (6 files in 2 directories): |
| 19:36.03 | Repo | - yet another code tidy-up; remove stuff, juggle and comment |
| 19:36.05 | Repo | - put version in ldb title contexts; use @project-version@ and in toc |
| 19:36.08 | Repo | - use spanish locale for esMX |
| 19:36.19 | ckknight | accursed spaniards. |
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| 19:37.07 | Torhal | Waiting for www.wowace.com... |
| 19:37.18 | Zenom | Same heh |
| 19:37.33 | Droolio | painfully slow lately |
| 19:38.11 | ckknight | Torhal: an insert is locking up the DB |
| 19:38.17 | ckknight | unrelated tables, even |
| 19:38.29 | Torhal | Even after your apt-get? Gah. |
| 19:38.35 | ckknight | yea |
| 19:38.37 | doom0r | now that is a great changlog entry: See, I told you that was boring. Now let's see if it crashes constantly or not! Go to work, oblivious beta testers! Test my code for me under the guise of a stable release! |
| 19:38.38 | ckknight | and even after disabling tls |
| 19:38.54 | ckknight | lol, doom0r |
| 19:38.55 | ckknight | link |
| 19:38.59 | doom0r | zorba |
| 19:39.08 | doom0r | qh changes |
| 19:39.20 | doom0r | @project quest-helper |
| 19:39.21 | Repo | doom0r: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/quest-helper/. QuestHelper. Game: WoW. ZorbaTHut (Manager/Author), vipersniper (Author), smariot (Author), nesher (Author). Updated: 19 hours ago. Tickets: 94/312 |
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| 19:39.27 | Toadkiller | good grief, what is Bonjour for windows, why would I install it, or did Apple already install it and want to update it, or are they trying to put crapware on my comp? |
| 19:40.01 | doom0r | it's a local peer location protocol iirc |
| 19:40.05 | doom0r | like to find people for ichat |
| 19:40.10 | doom0r | on a local network |
| 19:40.33 | Droolio | isn't it their proprietary dns system? |
| 19:40.40 | Toadkiller | Thats what I gather, which means it extra crap doing timeouts and other stupid stuff I do not need while my comp starts up or is running tho right?> |
| 19:40.48 | doom0r | it doesn't transverse NAT Droolio iirc |
| 19:41.03 | Zenom | ok added 3 tickets. |
| 19:41.19 | doom0r | Toadkiller, unless you're using ichat or itunes across multiple comps on a local, you don't need it |
| 19:41.49 | doom0r | btw, WTB popup on shift only ;x |
| 19:41.50 | Toadkiller | Its just that its bitching to install it each time I plug in my iPhone |
| 19:42.07 | doom0r | oh, they might use it for communicating with that for something |
| 19:42.11 | doom0r | that's the idea behind it |
| 19:42.19 | Toadkiller | I should go find the appropriate user frenzy forum to whine in I guess |
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| 19:42.43 | doom0r | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonjour_(software) |
| 19:42.51 | doom0r | zeroconf discovery |
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| 19:49.11 | ckknight | Zenom: good times |
| 19:49.21 | Zenom | lol |
| 20:00.20 | Southy | any1 know if there is a way to make my raid frames show up instead of party frames when in a party? |
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| 20:00.45 | Pkekyo| | HAPPY NEW YEAR LADIES! |
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| 20:05.58 | Zenom | Southy: i think most of the raid frames have that and I believe the default options in wow have something to hide party frames when in raid. |
| 20:06.39 | ckknight | Southy: ...why? |
| 20:06.49 | ckknight | Zenom: his question appears to be the converse |
| 20:07.15 | Zenom | Yeah i was just saying once u show raid frames in party you can hide party frames. (but i said raid) |
| 20:07.35 | Zenom | But I know i have done that before too, showed raid frames when in party like grid, when I wasn't a healer. |
| 20:07.36 | ckknight | Southy: no, you can't have raid frames show unless you're in a raid. |
| 20:07.45 | erikh | bonjour == avahi == p2p DNS |
| 20:07.48 | ckknight | at least for the default blizz frames |
| 20:07.48 | erikh | it's open |
| 20:07.52 | ckknight | for custom unit frames, it's possible |
| 20:08.19 | erikh | it used to be called something else, I can't remember now.. rhapsody? |
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| 20:08.53 | erikh | started with an R at least. |
| 20:09.05 | erikh | i'd totally clean up on wheel of fortune. |
| 20:11.41 | ckknight | woo, I got a localization file to import! |
| 20:12.03 | ckknight | (locally) |
| 20:16.23 | Repo | 10gem-helper: 03Xinhuan * r77 / (4 files in 1 directory): Add all 18 Dragon's Eye gems to the database. |
| 20:17.01 | ckknight | nevcairiel: AceLocale-3.0's locales are harder to parse. |
| 20:17.03 | ckknight | lame. |
| 20:17.10 | ckknight | (still doable) |
| 20:17.12 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 20:17.23 | nevcairiel | invoke a lua parser =P |
| 20:17.25 | ckknight | but that's only because I'm pro |
| 20:17.34 | ckknight | eh, no thanks, I'd really prefer to avoid that |
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| 20:17.43 | ckknight | since I don't want random code executed |
| 20:18.00 | nevcairiel | doesnt sound so hard to regex |
| 20:18.26 | ckknight | I'm actually doing it with an LL(1) parser. |
| 20:18.29 | ckknight | :-P |
| 20:18.36 | ckknight | well, LL(k) where k is 2 |
| 20:18.40 | nevcairiel | that works too |
| 20:18.50 | ckknight | I could do it with LL(1), but I'd have to make my code more complex |
| 20:19.35 | ckknight | nevcairiel: comments and all that are taken into consideration, so win |
| 20:19.51 | nevcairiel | i just recently wrote a LR parser for a university tasks, its much more fun then doing stupid regexes |
| 20:19.58 | ckknight | quite |
| 20:20.05 | ckknight | and your code can actually be a lot cleaner because of it |
| 20:20.11 | ckknight | and more powerful |
| 20:20.27 | ckknight | since you act as a state machine, intrinsically |
| 20:21.19 | Xinhuan | i wish i paid more attention to my uni classes on compilers (lol) |
| 20:21.31 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 20:21.51 | ckknight | I learned this on my own :-P |
| 20:22.35 | nevcairiel | I had a project this semester to write a LR parser for regex'es and create the NFA/DFA from it |
| 20:22.47 | nevcairiel | was quite fun |
| 20:23.42 | ckknight | that's cool |
| 20:23.58 | ckknight | now the true test of knowledge: |
| 20:24.01 | nevcairiel | sadly, we did it in java |
| 20:24.16 | ckknight | nevcairiel: yea, my classes were taught for that, too |
| 20:24.34 | ckknight | I asked my teacher if I could do it in python, and he said I could as long as I commented a lot to let it show I knew what I was doing |
| 20:24.39 | ckknight | I also had to give a presentation on python |
| 20:24.40 | nevcairiel | however i learned something about JSP/Servlets that way, wasnt too bad |
| 20:24.49 | ckknight | okay, test of knowledge: |
| 20:24.50 | ckknight | what's more powerful, NFA or DFA? |
| 20:25.58 | nevcairiel | they are the same, you can convert between them |
| 20:26.23 | nevcairiel | every NFA has a equivalent DFA |
| 20:26.29 | nevcairiel | even if it takes alot of time to create it =P |
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| 20:26.37 | ckknight | you have passed said test. |
| 20:26.41 | ckknight | hehe |
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| 20:26.55 | Southy | ckknight, sorry for not answering quicker, had to go eat: but the reason i would like to show raid frames instead of party is simply because i am trying to recreate this UI: http://i32.tinypic.com/2ic6uqc.jpg and i have already set up the raid frames to look like it |
| 20:27.17 | nevcairiel | well we did that, parsed the regex, created a NFA (trivial), converted to DFA, and then minimized that DFA |
| 20:27.20 | Southy | is there not a feature for party frames to adopt raid frame behaviour either in that case? |
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| 20:27.32 | ckknight | Southy: there is in PitBull4 ;-) |
| 20:27.34 | ckknight | (not out yet) |
| 20:28.04 | ckknight | so, if you feel like waiting a few days, you could do that |
| 20:28.18 | ckknight | Southy: what unit frames you using now? |
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| 20:28.35 | Southy | pitbull |
| 20:29.03 | ckknight | k |
| 20:29.09 | ckknight | (P.S. I'm the author) |
| 20:29.24 | Southy | ye i noticed :P |
| 20:29.31 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 20:30.06 | ckknight | you could save the raid frames' layout |
| 20:30.11 | ckknight | then load that layout into the party frames |
| 20:30.11 | Southy | great addon :P i would die without some of the options |
| 20:30.29 | ckknight | example? |
| 20:30.42 | ckknight | (if they don't exist, I'll tell you to file tickets on the PB4 page so you don't lose em) |
| 20:31.13 | Southy | (the ones that do exist i meant) :> |
| 20:31.37 | ckknight | don't exist on PB4 |
| 20:31.45 | ckknight | PB4's a full rewrite, not a port |
| 20:31.48 | Southy | ahh i see |
| 20:33.49 | Southy | the customisability in general really |
| 20:34.04 | Zenom | Alot of the customization will be better from what i have seen. |
| 20:34.05 | Southy | the current pitbull doesnt support vertical filling bars does it? |
| 20:34.10 | ckknight | it does |
| 20:34.14 | Zhinjio | barely |
| 20:34.16 | Zhinjio | but yes |
| 20:34.17 | ckknight | you set the bar to be on the left or right side |
| 20:34.24 | ckknight | Zhinjio: how is that barely? |
| 20:34.50 | Zhinjio | bar layout using vertical elements looks like ass that way |
| 20:35.20 | ckknight | got a better way to do it? |
| 20:35.40 | Zhinjio | sure, we've already talked about it. |
| 20:35.54 | ckknight | ...I forget |
| 20:35.57 | ckknight | (sorry) |
| 20:36.18 | Zhinjio | you inherently have all the bars forced into occupying that full area in the frame. |
| 20:36.32 | Zhinjio | that lacks flexibility and makes vertical elements look like ass |
| 20:36.39 | ckknight | ah |
| 20:36.42 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:37.04 | ckknight | sometimes creativity is more vibrant when you have to work inside constraints ;-) |
| 20:37.06 | ckknight | work with the box. |
| 20:37.18 | ckknight | :P |
| 20:37.32 | nevcairiel | isnt thinking outside the box the new cool thing? |
| 20:37.44 | ckknight | nevcairiel: used to be, then Reagan took office. |
| 20:38.42 | doom0r | http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9676/motivatororange8ba9.jpg |
| 20:39.39 | Southy | ckknight, is there any way on the current pitbull to get party frames do adopt size and positioning of raid frames? load layout didnt seem to do that |
| 20:39.59 | ckknight | Southy: by manually transferring all the settinsg |
| 20:40.01 | ckknight | settings* |
| 20:40.12 | ckknight | sorry, but the layout system of PB3 is kinda poor |
| 20:40.18 | ckknight | I'm fixing that in PB4 |
| 20:40.23 | Zhinjio | I'm not saying that it shouldn't be constrained inside a frame. Thats pretty much a requirement, code-wise.... but forcing it to occupy the full area of the frame is the piece that makes it suck. |
| 20:40.32 | Zhinjio | anyway, new monitor cable has arrived, idle. |
| 20:40.44 | ckknight | Zhinjio: you want the ability to add padding to the sides of the bar, then? |
| 20:40.55 | ckknight | I also plan to add options for spacing between bars, but that'll be per-layout |
| 20:42.31 | Zhinjio | no, I want to be able to have all elements inside the frame be free-floating and individually anchorable to the parent frame. |
| 20:42.49 | Zhinjio | let me show you an example of what is completely *impossible* using the current method. |
| 20:42.55 | doom0r | grins |
| 20:43.11 | doom0r | Zhinjio: i've been trying for that ;x |
| 20:43.19 | Zhinjio | http://geo.trippy.org/images/treatise/player4.jpg |
| 20:43.32 | Zhinjio | ignore the actionbars in the bottom right |
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| 20:43.59 | Zhinjio | thats not possible to do with your current modality |
| 20:44.11 | Zhinjio | paradigm, whatever you want to callit |
| 20:44.21 | Stanzilla | Zhinjio: you want ag_Pimpster |
| 20:45.10 | ckknight | Zhinjio: yea, I can make that work, well, probably not the text, though. |
| 20:45.20 | ckknight | actually, no |
| 20:45.26 | ckknight | no, that's ludicrously hard. |
| 20:45.37 | ckknight | sorry |
| 20:45.37 | Zhinjio | well, you asked. |
| 20:45.39 | ckknight | no soup for you |
| 20:45.51 | ckknight | that's cool, though |
| 20:46.22 | ckknight | I just don't know how I'd properly accomplish that |
| 20:46.28 | ckknight | Zhinjio: wanna do me a big favor? |
| 20:46.42 | ckknight | Zhinjio: file a ticket on PitBull4 saying that you want the ability to do that, and attach the image |
| 20:46.49 | ckknight | so that at least it stays on the table |
| 20:46.52 | Zhinjio | sure. |
| 20:47.05 | ckknight | cause I don't wanna say no, but I'll say "maybe later" |
| 20:47.54 | Nenue | do you have some type of planning document for PB4? |
| 20:48.05 | ckknight | Nenue: I have a spec sheet and tickets |
| 20:48.27 | ckknight | planning would consist of creating milestone, attaching tickets to those milestones |
| 20:48.33 | ckknight | if you want features in PB4, make tickets. |
| 20:48.57 | Pneumatus | can anyone reccomend me an addon that simply desplays the sell value of items in their tooltips? |
| 20:49.11 | nevcairiel | SellFish |
| 20:49.29 | Zhinjio | if wowace would respond, the ticket would be done. |
| 20:49.34 | Zhinjio | however... |
| 20:51.15 | ckknight | :-( |
| 20:51.48 | doom0r | Zhinjio: http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/6852/ufjo6.jpg can't do taht either =\ |
| 20:52.05 | Zhinjio | done |
| 20:52.23 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 20:52.37 | Zhinjio | http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/tickets/21-what-i-want/ |
| 20:52.40 | ckknight | doom0r: that's far more reasonable. that's possible if I allow 0..* blank/full frames |
| 20:52.45 | ckknight | which I might do |
| 20:53.10 | doom0r | it's free floating ckknight |
| 20:53.17 | doom0r | it attaches to whatever i tell it to |
| 20:53.22 | ckknight | doom0r: what is free floating? |
| 20:53.26 | doom0r | everything |
| 20:53.29 | doom0r | every element |
| 20:54.02 | ckknight | what addon is that? |
| 20:54.10 | doom0r | DUF |
| 20:54.20 | ckknight | figured |
| 20:54.24 | Zenom | Does that even work anymore? |
| 20:54.26 | ckknight | hrm |
| 20:54.27 | doom0r | i can take my mana bar for instance and attach it to the UIParent, UF, Status Icon even |
| 20:54.29 | Zhinjio | sheds a small tear for the death of discord |
| 20:54.35 | ckknight | I shall contemplate on these things, doom0r |
| 20:54.57 | doom0r | take a look at the config, it might give ideas |
| 20:55.03 | doom0r | ingame UI i mean |
| 20:55.06 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:55.22 | doom0r | http://underworldexodus.com/forum/ |
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| 20:56.32 | pakoz | anyone have a master looting mod they like? |
| 20:56.47 | doom0r | waht features? |
| 20:56.55 | doom0r | i personally use xloot master |
| 20:57.15 | doom0r | but it's not so much as a featureful mod as more of a mere quick extension of the default |
| 20:57.40 | pakoz | i guess i'd like sorted by class, colored(class based) and alphabetical) |
| 20:57.47 | pakoz | if i was going for a specific setup |
| 20:59.07 | Zhinjio | doom0r: the problem with discord in its current iteration is that they unfortunately maintained Laz's abhorrence of frameworks. |
| 20:59.15 | Zhinjio | so the code is super ugly bulky |
| 20:59.16 | doom0r | yes |
| 20:59.27 | Zhinjio | and terribly inefficient. |
| 20:59.37 | doom0r | the concept stands though |
| 20:59.41 | Zhinjio | it does |
| 20:59.47 | Zhinjio | no question. |
| 20:59.57 | Zhinjio | it always will hold a special place in my heart |
| 20:59.58 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 21:00.03 | ckknight | I used DUF |
| 21:00.03 | doom0r | i still use it ;x |
| 21:00.32 | doom0r | until something can do it short of me learning enough to write custom oUF frames myself, i will probably |
| 21:00.50 | ckknight | I want awesome configurability while maintaining a sane configuration system (simple enough to not take hours upon hours) |
| 21:01.34 | doom0r | duf accomplishes that effectively, you have element list on Left, options of visibility/anchoring on right, then another tab on right for things like variables and coloring |
| 21:01.56 | Zhinjio | doom0r: duf is not for the faint of heart, configuration-wise |
| 21:02.02 | Zhinjio | you're saying that because you're used to it. |
| 21:02.09 | Zhinjio | it has a very high barrier to entry for new users |
| 21:02.21 | ckknight | I want to appeal to the faint of heart |
| 21:02.28 | Zhinjio | pitbull hits a MUCH larger target audience. |
| 21:02.29 | doom0r | it's rather really simple, the new user only changes sizes and positions |
| 21:02.30 | Zhinjio | right |
| 21:02.30 | ckknight | or at least not scare em away too quick not to learn |
| 21:02.38 | doom0r | the power user makes things actually look different |
| 21:03.11 | pakoz | thx doom0r |
| 21:03.14 | Zhinjio | Ideally, there should be a the "simple" interface changing stuff for people who just want to tweak a couple things, and then "Advanced" mode (or screens) that open up all the nitty gritty options for people who aren't afraid of that. |
| 21:03.32 | Vangual | i'm actually quite a bit more scared at the amount of tabs in pb4 opposite to the tree structure in pb3 :/ |
| 21:04.53 | doom0r | that's why i really see a fork Zhinjio |
| 21:05.01 | ckknight | Vangual: I plan to alleviate that some a bit later |
| 21:05.17 | doom0r | i dont' see having relational and absolute as being efficient in the same package |
| 21:05.37 | Vangual | when there's three or more rows of tabs it get too slow figuring out which is the active one atm. |
| 21:05.59 | Vangual | need reb blinking arrows or so :P |
| 21:06.23 | Zhinjio | doom0r: relational/absolute positioning? |
| 21:06.48 | doom0r | yes |
| 21:07.01 | Zhinjio | relational being what, exactly? like pb is now? |
| 21:07.05 | doom0r | yes |
| 21:07.07 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 21:07.11 | doom0r | things are relative to other things |
| 21:07.39 | Zhinjio | shrugs. |
| 21:08.30 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r961 / (2 files in 1 directory): Recount: |
| 21:08.33 | Repo | - Fixed so that color changes on profile changes are made immediately visible. |
| 21:08.34 | ckknight | Vangual: where is that? the units thing? |
| 21:09.11 | Vangual | ckknight: the global settings, the layout ones are fine in terms of amount |
| 21:09.40 | doom0r | wtb the ticket system enable for recount =\ |
| 21:09.49 | doom0r | curse comments just fails for that imo |
| 21:10.04 | ckknight | Vangual: ah, yea, I'm planning on making units and module tree view, keeping layout editor tab view |
| 21:10.34 | Vangual | ckknight: i was thinking you could maybe move the ones that just have "enable" as their only option onto a seperate one and kill their own tab until they have more settings |
| 21:10.50 | ckknight | probably a good idea |
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| 21:32.16 | pakoz | doom0r - xlootmaster is awesome. Thanks |
| 21:34.48 | Zhinjio | ckknight: in cowtip, can you delete the line you're currently on (moving all below it up one?) |
| 21:35.12 | ckknight | if you remove the text, it acts as if it isn't there |
| 21:35.22 | ckknight | but you can't change it in the config, I thinlk |
| 21:35.24 | Zhinjio | k |
| 21:35.25 | ckknight | think* |
| 21:35.34 | Southy | are there any lightweight alternatives to recount? |
| 21:36.22 | Aiiane | A calculator? :P |
| 21:36.50 | Southy | lol |
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| 21:37.31 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r141 wotlk.lua: |
| 21:37.33 | Repo | adjust the "tooltip scanner" to account for BlizzCombatLog hook... |
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| 22:02.21 | Adys | happy new year to all, from athens |
| 22:13.01 | durcyn | Southy: try Violation |
| 22:13.25 | Pkekyo| | Rape - Because you can: http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7577/c312333wc3.jpg |
| 22:13.46 | Pkekyo| | wonders which of the nerds in here are nerdy enough to realize why that is rape... |
| 22:17.47 | EthanCentaurai | it's a gun :/ |
| 22:18.21 | Pkekyo| | well, yes it is...wrong answer though |
| 22:18.45 | ckknight | does it have to do with the silencer? |
| 22:18.55 | ckknight | thus allowing you to kill over and over without detection? |
| 22:19.02 | ckknight | (rape) |
| 22:19.16 | ckknight | Xinhuan: ping |
| 22:19.20 | Xinhuan | pong |
| 22:19.20 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Zenom2 06pitbull4_zenom 07master * a259ed1 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 22:19.22 | Repo | a259ed1: Modified modules.xml to include DruidManaBar |
| 22:19.25 | Repo | 974b16b: Added DruidManaBar module for PitBull4 |
| 22:19.28 | Pkekyo| | ckknight: well, you're onto it, not entirely correct though |
| 22:19.35 | ckknight | Xinhuan: can you paste up a non-enUS thing for Omen? |
| 22:19.40 | Xinhuan | sure |
| 22:19.41 | Xinhuan | one moment |
| 22:19.43 | Southy | is there any way to change the alpha for the background and heading background in violation? |
| 22:19.51 | ckknight | enUS imported correctly here, want to test importing non-English |
| 22:20.02 | Stanzilla | german one is bestest! |
| 22:20.10 | Pkekyo| | there is Southy, scour through the source-code for alpha values - did it myself about six months ago or so |
| 22:20.12 | ckknight | yea, do German |
| 22:20.18 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 22:20.19 | Southy | ok thanks |
| 22:20.27 | Xinhuan | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/paste/73/ |
| 22:20.28 | ckknight | it's the one I know best |
| 22:20.32 | Xinhuan | that's chinese |
| 22:20.36 | ckknight | o noes |
| 22:20.37 | ckknight | (no biggie) |
| 22:20.51 | Xinhuan | want the german one too? lol |
| 22:21.05 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1294 / (2 files in 2 directories): add missing vendors for alchemy |
| 22:21.19 | EthanCentaurai | Ich nich Deutsch gespracht... mein Deutsch is nicht so gut :( |
| 22:21.33 | Pkekyo| | ckknight: basicly, it's a 5.56mm cal QD rifle silencer on a .45 cal handgun |
| 22:21.51 | ckknight | Pkekyo|: okay, what does that accomplish? |
| 22:21.52 | Xinhuan | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/paste/74/ |
| 22:22.13 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Zenom2 06pitbull4_zenom 07master * 3c4f940 Modules/ (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Changed tabs from 4 spaces to a tab for commonality. |
| 22:22.32 | ckknight | damn, it bugged |
| 22:22.37 | viisual | @project pitbull4 |
| 22:22.38 | Repo | viisual: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/. PitBull Unit Frames 4.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author), Shefki (Author). Updated: 42 hours ago. Tickets: 15/21 |
| 22:22.40 | Pkekyo| | ckknight: I'm not quite sure...but I'd be very afraid if I had to pull the trigger on a beast like that... |
| 22:22.40 | Pkekyo| | let's just say there's a reason it's not done regularily |
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| 22:23.37 | EthanCentaurai | the silencer would implode/fly off? |
| 22:23.45 | Zenom | Let's see get drunk and work on the portraits module or level my mage :) |
| 22:24.05 | EthanCentaurai | beer is good |
| 22:24.06 | Pkekyo| | EthanCentaurai: well, not implode...I reckon either the silencer would be launched into oblivion, or the gun would explode |
| 22:24.29 | Pkekyo| | to translate the concept to regular nerdyness: it's like fitting a WGA graphics card into a PCI-e slot :p |
| 22:24.37 | Chompers | guns lolz |
| 22:24.44 | Pkekyo| | or VGA? argh, can't remember what that old shit was called anymore |
| 22:24.51 | ckknight | Pkekyo|: but it doesn't fit there :-( |
| 22:24.57 | durcyn | Pkekyo|: ISA |
| 22:25.09 | Pkekyo| | durcyn: no, not that one |
| 22:25.11 | durcyn | or VLB, or whatever, take your pick |
| 22:25.11 | Pkekyo| | think it was VGA |
| 22:25.15 | Pkekyo| | ckknight: well, that's the general idea |
| 22:25.23 | EthanCentaurai | TGA :D |
| 22:25.24 | durcyn | VGA's the video specificiation, not the slot |
| 22:25.25 | ckknight | power surge |
| 22:25.25 | Pneumatus | AGP |
| 22:25.28 | ckknight | lol, no more face |
| 22:25.40 | Pkekyo| | durcyn: well, anyways |
| 22:25.46 | Pneumatus | well, AGP or PCI |
| 22:25.55 | Pkekyo| | ah, thanks Pneumatus |
| 22:26.00 | Pkekyo| | AGP card into a PCI-e slot |
| 22:26.06 | durcyn | and agp's hardly old, kids these days. |
| 22:26.14 | Xinhuan | ok i need some omen feedback on implementing something "new" |
| 22:26.23 | Xinhuan | first i'll explain the problem |
| 22:26.34 | Pneumatus | ISA -> PCI -> AGP -> PCI-e |
| 22:26.40 | EthanCentaurai | I read on the intarwebz once that some clutz bought a graphics card, but it wouldn't fit because it was the wrong type, so he cut a bit of it off :/ |
| 22:26.54 | Pkekyo| | EthanCentaurai: I saw the picture a few weeks back :p |
| 22:27.14 | Xinhuan | Problem: when a mage casts Mirror Image (MI) or a priest casts Fade, the caster's threat is reduced by 410065408 for the duration of the buff, and at the end of the duration, the caster's threat is increased back by 410065408 |
| 22:27.16 | Xinhuan | so |
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| 22:27.28 | Xinhuan | yes, this means the caster's threat is at some negative 4 mil threat |
| 22:27.49 | Xinhuan | now, right now, omen treats a person with negative threat and displays him at 0 threat |
| 22:27.57 | Xinhuan | however this isn't ideal |
| 22:28.11 | Xinhuan | the player wants to know how much threat is "un-MIed or unfaded" threat is |
| 22:28.22 | NeoTron | did they change how fade works then? |
| 22:28.28 | Xinhuan | it works the same as before |
| 22:28.30 | Aiiane | I'd say just label anything below 4mil as "ZZZZZ -INF" or something like that |
| 22:28.30 | NeoTron | used to be a static threat reduction didn't it? |
| 22:28.37 | NeoTron | it reduced threat by X |
| 22:28.39 | Aiiane | where ZZZZ is the before-MI value |
| 22:28.39 | Xinhuan | ifyou have 100000 threat before casting fade |
| 22:28.48 | durcyn | it's always been static reduction, but it was a piddly amount previously |
| 22:28.50 | sztanpet | change the color of the bar |
| 22:28.51 | Xinhuan | after casting, you have 100000-410065408 = some negative number |
| 22:28.54 | NeoTron | it definitely didn't use to reduce it by millions |
| 22:29.00 | NeoTron | it was like 1000 threat or so before |
| 22:29.10 | Xinhuan | anyway, here's the problem |
| 22:29.23 | Xinhuan | because threat is negative (and capped to 0 in omen for display) |
| 22:29.30 | NeoTron | yeah definitely changed |
| 22:29.33 | Xinhuan | the player is "blind" to how much threat he will be at at the end of the buff |
| 22:29.34 | NeoTron | Apply Aura: Mod Total Threat (Fade) |
| 22:29.35 | NeoTron | Value: -90000000 |
| 22:29.42 | Xinhuan | so he could potentially pull aggro at the end of MI/Fade |
| 22:29.44 | Aiiane | like I said Xinhuan :) |
| 22:29.52 | Xinhuan | so what's your proposed solution? |
| 22:29.56 | Xinhuan | to this issue |
| 22:29.58 | Aiiane | display anything below 4mil as "ZZZZZ -INF" |
| 22:30.06 | Xinhuan | yes but that doesn't solve the issue |
| 22:30.06 | Aiiane | where ZZZZZ is currently threat + that 4mil constant |
| 22:30.08 | sztanpet | you dont get it |
| 22:30.08 | NeoTron | I don't think it's a problem |
| 22:30.17 | sztanpet | simply change the color of the bar |
| 22:30.19 | Xinhuan | i want to know my un-MIed threat |
| 22:30.22 | Aiiane | yes |
| 22:30.25 | Aiiane | and that's what ZZZZZ would be |
| 22:30.26 | NeoTron | once fade fades you'll know what your threat is |
| 22:30.33 | Aiiane | it would then just tack on the "-INF" at the end |
| 22:30.40 | Aiiane | to show that you're currently not actually at that thraet |
| 22:30.41 | Xinhuan | yes, its easy to check for a negative number and just add 410065408 to it |
| 22:30.52 | Aiiane | threat* |
| 22:31.02 | Xinhuan | so your suggestion is just to add 410065408 to the value and color the bar differently? |
| 22:31.27 | durcyn | i wouldn't just add four million. do you not want to make it toggleable or watch for the buff application? |
| 22:31.33 | Aiiane | add the constant, color/place it differently, and (at least in my preference) add something to the begining/end of the text |
| 22:31.41 | durcyn | something extensible for different buffs with different threat values, i'd think |
| 22:31.54 | Xinhuan | there's only 2 buffs that do this atm - MI and Fade |
| 22:31.55 | Aiiane | to indicate that it's not your "current" threat value but what it "would" be if you didnt have MI active |
| 22:31.59 | Xinhuan | and both use the constant 410065408 |
| 22:32.10 | NeoTron | according to wowhead threat is reduced by 90 million from fade |
| 22:32.19 | Xinhuan | yes, but according to in game, its 410065408 ;p |
| 22:32.30 | Aiiane | to be on the safe side |
| 22:32.39 | Aiiane | you could only add the constant if it's below 400000000 or so |
| 22:32.45 | Aiiane | (er, below negative that) |
| 22:33.01 | Aiiane | instead of just below zero |
| 22:33.06 | Xinhuan | i don't think that's really necessary to check |
| 22:33.10 | Aiiane | shrugs |
| 22:33.11 | Aiiane | either way |
| 22:33.15 | Aiiane | that's what I'd do |
| 22:33.16 | durcyn | your way works for now |
| 22:33.30 | durcyn | wouldn't surprise me to see more threat modifier abilities added in the future |
| 22:34.19 | Southy | pkekyo| is there something i should be looking for, 'find' didnt find anything to do with alpha |
| 22:34.38 | Xinhuan | so what colour should the "faded bar" be |
| 22:34.56 | Aiiane | what's the coloring based on currently? |
| 22:35.01 | sztanpet | surround the player with * too, so its more obvious yea |
| 22:35.22 | Xinhuan | bars are currently either a custom color defined by the user (default red), or class colored |
| 22:35.22 | Aiiane | actually, why not put the threat value in parentheses |
| 22:35.30 | Aiiane | Xinhuan: I wouldn't change the color then |
| 22:35.48 | Xinhuan | certain special bars have additional options to be coloured differently from normal |
| 22:35.56 | Xinhuan | for eg, there is a colour for the "current tank" |
| 22:36.03 | Xinhuan | and a colour for "myself" |
| 22:36.17 | Xinhuan | and another colour for "> pull aggro <" |
| 22:36.26 | Aiiane | if the bar isn't colored based on threat value, i see no reason to change its color for negative threat value |
| 22:36.35 | sztanpet | just fade the color out |
| 22:36.55 | Aiiane | it's already going to be dropping down in the list, yes? |
| 22:36.59 | Xinhuan | well priest = white-ish |
| 22:37.07 | Xinhuan | fading out a white colour |
| 22:37.10 | Xinhuan | isn't a very smart idea |
| 22:37.36 | Stanzilla | I would just change the display value..like "0 (originalthreat) *Fade*" or so |
| 22:37.49 | gix | Aiiane: it shouldn't if it shows your original threat |
| 22:37.51 | sztanpet | nah, i was thinking more on the line of remove the bar and just show the numbers + names |
| 22:37.56 | Xinhuan | not so complex Stanzilla, remember the "threat column" isn't very wide |
| 22:38.02 | Stanzilla | true.. |
| 22:38.07 | Aiiane | gix: I was just suggesting changing the *display*, not the value for ranking |
| 22:38.19 | Aiiane | imo, the value for ranking should still be negative, and thus the bar drop |
| 22:38.31 | Aiiane | either that, or at least let the user choose |
| 22:38.54 | Aiiane | either rank-by-true-current-value, or rank-by-permanent-value |
| 22:39.10 | Aiiane | the former taking MI/fade into account, the latter not |
| 22:39.14 | sztanpet | the backdrop i mean, the bar should be there |
| 22:39.24 | gix | what's the point in having that bar far down out of context of where your threat really will be? |
| 22:40.25 | Aiiane | shrugs |
| 22:40.30 | Aiiane | sztanpet's idea might work |
| 22:40.35 | Aiiane | just temp-hide the bar |
| 22:40.51 | Aiiane | or invert the colors, perhaps? |
| 22:40.59 | Xinhuan | u mean, temp hide the background bar? |
| 22:41.22 | Aiiane | that's what sztanpet said |
| 22:42.19 | Aiiane | not the entry, but just the graphical bar texture |
| 22:48.33 | ckknight | Xinhuan: rather than testing this myself, can I get you to test importing your Omen translations? (You can use test-alpha or whatever if you don't want to pollute Omen proper) |
| 22:49.04 | ckknight | it should work all fine, but I want to see how well it works for you (as a user of the localization app) |
| 22:50.01 | Xinhuan | @project test-alpha |
| 22:50.02 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/test-alpha/. Test Alpha. Game: WoW. Status: Out of date. ckknight (Manager/Author), Prodigal (Author). Updated: 3 days ago. Tickets: 4/4 |
| 22:50.46 | Xinhuan | lets see |
| 22:51.18 | ckknight | basically, do enUS first |
| 22:51.21 | ckknight | then zhCN |
| 22:51.25 | Xinhuan | how do i import |
| 22:51.29 | Xinhuan | just paste the whole file in? |
| 22:51.41 | ckknight | not the very top part |
| 22:51.46 | ckknight | so just the L["... stuff |
| 22:51.50 | ckknight | comments are cool, too |
| 22:52.06 | Xinhuan | 500 Fatal Error! |
| 22:52.06 | Xinhuan | We're sorry, you've attempted to access a page that decided to jump off its flying mount high over shattrath and forgot to bubble. |
| 22:52.06 | Xinhuan | If you find this message to be in error please notify the administrators. |
| 22:52.11 | ckknight | ...lame |
| 22:52.25 | ckknight | durr |
| 22:52.26 | ckknight | print statement |
| 22:52.57 | ckknight | redeploying |
| 22:53.18 | ckknight | okay, Xinhuan, try again? |
| 22:54.09 | Xinhuan | ok enUS seems imported |
| 22:54.18 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:55.13 | NeoTron | so out of curiosity, would you ever find that a 500 fatal error message is the expected and correct behavior? |
| 22:55.54 | ckknight | it's theoretically possible |
| 22:56.02 | ckknight | I just raise the exception |
| 22:56.08 | ckknight | oh, actually |
| 22:56.20 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/trigger/500/ |
| 22:56.28 | ckknight | or http://www.wowace.com/trigger/error/ |
| 22:56.38 | ckknight | you can trigger other codes, too ;-) |
| 22:56.54 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/trigger/401/ |
| 22:56.56 | ckknight | ooh |
| 22:56.59 | ckknight | I'm Unauthorized |
| 22:56.59 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:57.25 | Xinhuan | lets see |
| 22:57.28 | ckknight | don't go to http://www.wowace.com/trigger/501/, though, I haven't implemented that one yet |
| 22:57.29 | Xinhuan | i just tried to import esES |
| 22:57.31 | Xinhuan | and got a |
| 22:57.37 | Xinhuan | "Unexpected character 'L' found." |
| 22:57.45 | Pneumatus | http://www.wowace.com/trigger/550/ gives a 400 error :o |
| 22:57.46 | ckknight | Xinhuan: what format did you choose? |
| 22:57.48 | Xinhuan | oh nvm |
| 22:57.50 | Xinhuan | format |
| 22:58.00 | ckknight | Pneumatus: because that isn't a valid code |
| 22:58.13 | ckknight | Pneumatus: (as far as Werkzeug is concerned) |
| 22:58.23 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 22:58.30 | Xinhuan | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/test-alpha/localization/phrases/ |
| 22:58.35 | Xinhuan | check if everything seems alright to you |
| 22:58.40 | Xinhuan | i've imported all 8 languages |
| 22:58.48 | ckknight | bars on http://www.wowace.com/projects/test-alpha/localization/ seem funny |
| 22:58.53 | ckknight | but that's just a graphical issue |
| 22:58.57 | ckknight | goes to fix |
| 22:59.36 | ckknight | the real test is exporting your imported translations |
| 22:59.38 | ckknight | which seems to work |
| 22:59.42 | ckknight | zhCN looks good |
| 23:00.09 | Mikk | Happy New Year |
| 23:00.12 | nevcairiel | Happy New-Year EU |
| 23:00.14 | robo\afk | ^^ |
| 23:00.20 | sztanpet | 8 more seconds! |
| 23:00.23 | sztanpet | at least for me |
| 23:00.24 | Pneumatus | well, CET anyway |
| 23:00.32 | sztanpet | yeay! |
| 23:00.42 | Xinhuan | everything seems ok |
| 23:00.57 | Xinhuan | other than the fact that the translations are ordered alphabetically by key |
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| 23:01.08 | Xinhuan | as opposed to being ordered by usage sections |
| 23:01.15 | Xinhuan | for exporting that is |
| 23:01.17 | ckknight | Xinhuan: ...yea |
| 23:01.17 | Aiiane | ckknight: if cpaul hasn't left the building yet, tell him thank you |
| 23:01.23 | ckknight | Aiiane: he just left |
| 23:01.26 | Aiiane | bah, oh well |
| 23:01.29 | Aiiane | thanks anyways |
| 23:01.50 | Xinhuan | so your exporting app just gives a textbox for cut/copying yeah? it doesn't actually generate any file? |
| 23:01.54 | ckknight | Xinhuan: not really sure if that's fixable |
| 23:02.09 | Aiiane | auto-repo-commit go! :P |
| 23:02.12 | ckknight | Xinhuan: just the textarea, which seems fine to me, you can mangle it after-the-fact |
| 23:02.22 | ckknight | Aiiane: maybe later, that'd require quite a bit more work |
| 23:02.33 | Aiiane | i know it would, sorry, forgot the </tongueincheek> |
| 23:02.39 | ckknight | like, currently, you still have to do the AceLocale-3.0 registration |
| 23:02.42 | Xinhuan | ok now lets say some translator now translates string XYZ and string ABC, as an author, how do i know something was updated? |
| 23:02.46 | ckknight | but it's copy-pasta after-the-fact |
| 23:03.04 | ckknight | Xinhuan: your red bars get more green. Or you check the activity log. |
| 23:03.32 | Xinhuan | can you explain what the red/green/yellow bars mean? |
| 23:03.38 | ckknight | green = translated |
| 23:03.38 | many | happy CET new year |
| 23:03.41 | ckknight | yellow = needs review |
| 23:03.42 | Xinhuan | or add the explanation to the main page itself |
| 23:03.45 | ckknight | red = untranslated |
| 23:03.51 | Xinhuan | so authors dont' have to guess |
| 23:03.53 | ckknight | well, if you hover over the bar, it tells you |
| 23:03.59 | ckknight | like a sane webapp |
| 23:04.30 | Xinhuan | ok lets say today, 96% is translated, and tomorrow 98% is translated, how do i know this, without having to remember 96% |
| 23:04.31 | ckknight | but yea, I can see how adding that'd be useful |
| 23:04.41 | nevcairiel | you dont :) |
| 23:04.49 | nevcairiel | check activity log :P |
| 23:05.05 | ckknight | typically before you release, you'd just copy-pasta in the translations |
| 23:05.19 | ckknight | or something to that regard |
| 23:05.55 | ckknight | what I might do eventually is add a .pkgmeta thing to just fetch on-demand |
| 23:05.57 | Xinhuan | ok, the search filters of the activity log... is that working yet? |
| 23:06.01 | ckknight | you specify the template |
| 23:06.02 | ckknight | etc. |
| 23:06.06 | ckknight | Xinhuan: ...maybe? |
| 23:06.15 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/admin/activities/localization_localization-1-localization/ |
| 23:06.19 | Xinhuan | i search for the word "pet" |
| 23:06.19 | ckknight | yes. |
| 23:06.22 | Xinhuan | and nothing comes up |
| 23:06.30 | ckknight | eh, no |
| 23:06.36 | ckknight | yea... |
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| 23:06.49 | ckknight | wonders what it's searching on |
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| 23:07.08 | Xinhuan | same with the word "class" |
| 23:07.19 | ckknight | ah |
| 23:07.26 | ckknight | it's cause the activity itself doesn't contain it in the text |
| 23:07.29 | ckknight | since it's just a create |
| 23:07.32 | ckknight | but an edit would do it |
| 23:07.34 | ckknight | :-P |
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| 23:07.38 | ckknight | (kinda lame, I know) |
| 23:07.42 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 23:07.43 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 23:07.48 | Repo | 10guildwork: 03Tlor101 * r10 / (3 files in 1 directory): code cleanup. |
| 23:07.57 | Xinhuan | Create Translation â Spanish (esES): Usted ha una mascota of You have a pet â View Activity Log Xinhuan 9 minutes ago |
| 23:08.02 | Xinhuan | isn't the word Pet in there? |
| 23:08.09 | ckknight | no, Xinhuan |
| 23:08.24 | ckknight | not in the activities_activity row |
| 23:08.30 | ckknight | it's on localization_translation |
| 23:08.38 | ckknight | which is referenced on-demand |
| 23:09.56 | Xinhuan | ok what if my locale file looks like this: |
| 23:10.01 | ckknight | and activities point to other tables generically (i.e. with an ad-hoc foreign key), so I can't really search on tables it points to |
| 23:10.11 | Xinhuan | pasteying it brb |
| 23:10.23 | Xinhuan | "waiting for www.wowace.com..." |
| 23:10.36 | nevcairiel | wowace has some serious hickups |
| 23:10.39 | Xinhuan | still "waiting for www.wowace.com..." |
| 23:10.48 | ckknight | nevcairiel: we know. |
| 23:11.02 | nevcairiel | i know that you know, still cant say it often enough =P |
| 23:11.12 | ckknight | we need to upgrade the OS and hope that that fixes it. |
| 23:11.17 | Xinhuan | who can access the localization stuff for any given project? |
| 23:11.39 | ckknight | Xinhuan: it's a permission to edit enUS |
| 23:11.41 | Aiiane | I believe there's a specific permission for it under the new 'roles' system |
| 23:11.54 | ckknight | anyone logged in can edit non-enUS, though |
| 23:12.12 | Xinhuan | so by default, project manager/authors can edit enUS and anyone with a wowace account can edit everything non-enUS? |
| 23:12.18 | ckknight | yes. |
| 23:12.40 | ckknight | if it needs locking down later, I'll implement it then |
| 23:12.42 | Xinhuan | is there a way to say, mass undo changes? if say a bot is written to mass-mess with wowace addons |
| 23:13.11 | Xinhuan | although technically, anyone could already mass-commit to any open project anyway |
| 23:13.16 | nevcairiel | perfect place to sneak ads in =P |
| 23:13.27 | Xinhuan | but its relatively simple to undo in svn/git etc at least |
| 23:13.30 | ckknight | nevcairiel: OMEN_DESC = "KTM is awesome!" |
| 23:13.38 | Aiiane | lol |
| 23:13.58 | Xinhuan | still "waiting for www.wowace.com..." |
| 23:14.08 | Aiiane | ~lart dbserver |
| 23:14.08 | purl | grabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats dbserver until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with |
| 23:14.20 | Xinhuan | nvm, i'll use pastey instead |
| 23:14.24 | ckknight | Xinhuan: we're up to 370 seconds for a single insert |
| 23:14.33 | Aiiane | ckknight: o_O |
| 23:14.36 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:14.41 | nevcairiel | somehow i doubt thats related to your OS choice |
| 23:14.58 | ckknight | nevcairiel: no, it's probably a bug in libc or our version of mysql |
| 23:15.09 | ckknight | which we can't upgrade to newer without doing an OS upgrade |
| 23:15.13 | ckknight | which we should do anyway |
| 23:15.15 | ckknight | to get 64-bit |
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| 23:15.17 | nevcairiel | manual install, go |
| 23:15.26 | ckknight | no, I don't want to risk hosing it |
| 23:15.32 | ckknight | I'm letting Kaelten risk hosing it |
| 23:15.35 | Aiiane | lol |
| 23:15.38 | nevcairiel | screw distribution packages |
| 23:15.43 | nevcairiel | they are always behind on that stuff |
| 23:15.44 | Xinhuan | ok ckknight |
| 23:15.46 | Zenom | How big of a machine is doing your queries? |
| 23:15.52 | pastamancer | nevcairiel: agreed |
| 23:15.53 | Xinhuan | lets say one of my addons looks like this in the locale file |
| 23:15.54 | Xinhuan | http://pastey.net/105341 |
| 23:16.03 | nevcairiel | believe me, i know |
| 23:16.07 | nevcairiel | i run a debian etch server =P |
| 23:16.11 | Xinhuan | now i can't really use the localization app right? ;p |
| 23:16.11 | ckknight | Zenom: 8 cores, 8 gigs mem (hey, 32-bit, only 4 gigs) |
| 23:16.11 | Fisker- | lol |
| 23:16.19 | Fisker- | use PAE! |
| 23:16.20 | Xinhuan | without requiring massive edits on my part |
| 23:16.23 | Fisker- | you failures |
| 23:16.28 | Zenom | Cool. Not bad for the traffic you guys probably push on it. |
| 23:16.35 | Arrowmaster | debian stable is always the most behind of any distro though |
| 23:16.41 | Zenom | Our machine is way overkill for what we use it for but all of our queries are cached hehe. |
| 23:16.42 | ckknight | Xinhuan: correct. stop polluting the global table, ass |
| 23:16.46 | Zenom | And very little inserts. |
| 23:16.55 | Xinhuan | hey that addon was written 2 years ago |
| 23:16.57 | ckknight | Xinhuan: hehe |
| 23:17.02 | Xinhuan | back then, ace wasn't even existant |
| 23:17.06 | Xinhuan | ace2 rather |
| 23:17.08 | Fisker- | PAE ckknight, PAE |
| 23:17.09 | Fisker- | do it |
| 23:17.13 | ckknight | Xinhuan: it's easy to fix. |
| 23:17.14 | nevcairiel | 2 years ago? it was |
| 23:17.16 | Xinhuan | and i have little incentive to rewrite it ;p |
| 23:17.19 | Zenom | yeah we run some debian boxes as well which are way behind |
| 23:17.29 | nevcairiel | 2 years ago was BC release |
| 23:17.30 | ckknight | sed 's/GEMHELPER_/GEMHELPER\./g' *.lua |
| 23:17.37 | nevcairiel | i wrote alot of Ace2 addosn back then |
| 23:17.48 | Zenom | Hell the one machine has been up 463 days |
| 23:17.48 | Xinhuan | well yeah ace2 was still new then |
| 23:18.04 | nevcairiel | not that new :) |
| 23:18.06 | ckknight | it was a few month old or so |
| 23:18.22 | Xinhuan | polluting global namespace might not be a good thing, but it doesn't really do any real harm either |
| 23:18.25 | ckknight | I remember working on it in July '06 |
| 23:18.27 | nevcairiel | the community was already pretty big around the BC release |
| 23:18.30 | Xinhuan | since everything is prefixed properly |
| 23:18.42 | Xinhuan | there's no name clashes |
| 23:18.49 | ckknight | Xinhuan: even still, no, we don't support your localization schema as-is. |
| 23:18.52 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: bigger table, slower lookups =p |
| 23:19.01 | Xinhuan | the lookups only occur once nevcairiel ;p |
| 23:19.06 | Xinhuan | in the whole life of the addon |
| 23:19.44 | Xinhuan | fontstring:Settext() |
| 23:19.44 | Xinhuan | and that's it |
| 23:19.44 | nevcairiel | for you |
| 23:19.44 | nevcairiel | but you still ruin it for everyone else! |
| 23:19.44 | ckknight | I have very little incentive to support your localization schema |
| 23:19.44 | ckknight | sorry, Xinhuan |
| 23:19.44 | Xinhuan | i could probably even delete the global strings after that |
| 23:19.44 | ckknight | you can do as you always have or use a table |
| 23:19.47 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 23:19.50 | Xinhuan | thought so |
| 23:19.59 | ckknight | also, as-is, we don't support lists or dictionaries, just keys |
| 23:20.00 | nevcairiel | if the addon is 2 years old, shouldnt you have the translations by now? =P |
| 23:20.09 | ckknight | err |
| 23:20.12 | Xinhuan | ya heh |
| 23:20.12 | ckknight | just strings |
| 23:20.27 | ckknight | I'll probably add some kind of namespacing |
| 23:20.33 | ckknight | and possibly list and/or dict support |
| 23:20.37 | Xinhuan | programming practices weren't all that good 2 years ago |
| 23:20.41 | nevcairiel | wowace is still dead :( |
| 23:20.48 | ckknight | we can already parse it, it just doesn't go into the db sanely |
| 23:20.56 | ckknight | nevcairiel: Jesus... |
| 23:21.10 | nevcairiel | before it recovered after 5 minutes or so |
| 23:21.13 | nevcairiel | shrugs |
| 23:21.18 | nevcairiel | goes back to his python |
| 23:21.31 | ckknight | there it goes |
| 23:21.46 | ckknight | in any event, it's new year's eve |
| 23:21.49 | ckknight | I'm done for the day. |
| 23:21.57 | ckknight | actually, gonna make the bars look nicer first |
| 23:22.06 | Xinhuan | when a translation needs review - who can review it? |
| 23:22.21 | Xinhuan | anyone with an account? |
| 23:22.49 | ckknight | yes. |
| 23:23.05 | Xinhuan | and the other obvious question is... must enUS be the "base" language? |
| 23:23.08 | ckknight | updating the english version will mark all non-enUS as needing review |
| 23:23.09 | ckknight | yes. |
| 23:23.13 | ckknight | for now |
| 23:23.22 | ckknight | don't have a big plan to change that, though |
| 23:23.32 | Aiiane | ENGLISH IS SUPERIOR, ALL HAIL THE PIGHEADED AMERICANS |
| 23:23.33 | Aiiane | :p |
| 23:23.37 | ckknight | hooah. |
| 23:23.52 | pastamancer | Aiiane: well, you're not talking french right now are you? :p |
| 23:23.54 | Aiiane | (actually, english is pretty crap) |
| 23:24.02 | Xinhuan | what happens if my enUS key/string that is L["I love pigs"] is updated to L["I love all pigs"] |
| 23:24.16 | Xinhuan | importing would just add the new string but not remove the older one right? |
| 23:24.23 | ckknight | Aiiane: truth, but my ancestors had to go and make boats and take over a whole bunch of brown people, thus spreading English everywhere |
| 23:24.32 | Xinhuan | i think i saw an option somewhere about deleting old ones during the import |
| 23:24.46 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yea, importing that would delete the old one (if you click the box) |
| 23:24.56 | ckknight | or you can change it on the site, properly |
| 23:25.00 | ckknight | nothing is deleted that way |
| 23:25.09 | ckknight | (unless you actually delete it) |
| 23:25.14 | Xinhuan | so in the activity log, that is seen as a Create and a Delete? |
| 23:25.21 | ckknight | also note that nothing is deleted, just marked as status='d' |
| 23:25.23 | Xinhuan | and everything else is "Edit"? |
| 23:25.23 | ckknight | yes, Xinhuan |
| 23:25.27 | ckknight | yes |
| 23:25.35 | Xinhuan | if nothing is changed, it is still "Edit" |
| 23:25.46 | ckknight | if nothing is changed, it won't be in the log |
| 23:26.06 | Xinhuan | esMX? |
| 23:26.21 | Xinhuan | or lump esES/esMX together? |
| 23:26.57 | ckknight | lumped as-is |
| 23:27.11 | ckknight | for the mexicans, what does GetLocale() return? |
| 23:27.31 | Xinhuan | esMX i think |
| 23:27.35 | ckknight | hrm |
| 23:27.39 | ckknight | we should probably add that, then |
| 23:27.51 | Xinhuan | for Omen |
| 23:27.52 | Xinhuan | i just use |
| 23:27.53 | Xinhuan | local L = AceLocale:NewLocale("Omen", "esES") or AceLocale:NewLocale("Omen", "esMX") |
| 23:27.53 | Xinhuan | if not L then return end |
| 23:27.58 | ckknight | hrm |
| 23:28.01 | Xinhuan | that is, i'm treating both identically |
| 23:28.19 | Zenom | ckknight: think i am gonna have to fix druidmanabar |
| 23:28.21 | Xinhuan | so if its either locale, i register the same set of translations |
| 23:28.26 | Zenom | I logged into my 80 dk and have the bar....lol |
| 23:28.39 | ckknight | Zenom: hehe. just make it check if you're a druid |
| 23:28.45 | ckknight | local _, class = UnitClass("player") |
| 23:28.49 | Zenom | Yeah thought I did. |
| 23:28.51 | ckknight | if class == "DRUID" then yay end |
| 23:28.54 | Xinhuan | i know its a bit hackish, but i don't really expect them to be different |
| 23:29.01 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yea |
| 23:29.09 | Xinhuan | and if something really must be different, the code path can easily have splits |
| 23:29.32 | Xinhuan | if locale == "esMX" then L["blah"] = "blah" else L["blah"] = "bah" end |
| 23:29.49 | Zenom | Does it matter if you set RegisterEvents outside the class? |
| 23:29.56 | Zenom | or does that need to check for class to and set only for druid |
| 23:30.33 | ckknight | Zenom: at the top of the module, do if select(2, UnitClass("player")) ~= "DRUID" then return end |
| 23:30.38 | Southy | http://i29.tinypic.com/2r5ruv6.jpg any1 know of a damage meter i can achieve this look with? |
| 23:30.39 | ckknight | Zenom: that's all |
| 23:31.22 | Xinhuan | that looks like Recount Southy |
| 23:31.32 | Xinhuan | basically, just change the font in recount's options |
| 23:31.48 | Xinhuan | the gray background is probably just kgpanels |
| 23:32.02 | Xinhuan | with recount on left and omen on right (missing/hidden) |
| 23:32.29 | Southy | the size is the main problem, recount seems to have a minimum width |
| 23:32.44 | Southy | so i cant get it in there with eavesdrop |
| 23:32.58 | Xinhuan | easily changable with code |
| 23:33.23 | Xinhuan | a piece of code's :SetWidth() doesn't respect :SetMinResize() |
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| 23:34.12 | Southy | so if i edit the :SetWidth() it wont adhere to :SetMinResize() ? |
| 23:34.13 | Pneumatus | do any of you lot use stasiscl as an alternative to wws? |
| 23:34.29 | Xinhuan | no i'm just saying if you add code to kgpanels to SetWidth() |
| 23:34.33 | Xinhuan | it'll probably work fine |
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| 23:34.53 | Xinhuan | or just scale your Recount down |
| 23:35.02 | Xinhuan | and then scale the text inside up |
| 23:35.12 | Xinhuan | recount has a "window scaling" bar |
| 23:35.31 | Xinhuan | so scale that down, then make the row height larger |
| 23:35.38 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Zenom2 06zenom 07master * 6e856a2 Modules/DruidManaBar/DruidManaBar.lua: [+1 commit] Added druid class checking to addon |
| 23:35.45 | Xinhuan | lots of ways you can achieve what you want |
| 23:35.51 | Southy | ok thanks |
| 23:38.03 | Pneumatus | hmm, i wonder if the author of loggerhead is actually about |
| 23:40.23 | Xinhuan | Torhal |
| 23:40.29 | Xinhuan | you broke shift-clicking to split stacks |
| 23:40.50 | Xinhuan | @project Revelation |
| 23:40.51 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/revelation/. Revelation. Game: WoW. Torhal (Manager/Author). Updated: 4 hours ago. Tickets: 1/2 |
| 23:41.06 | Xinhuan | using r18 though |
| 23:41.22 | Xinhuan | slaps Torhal away with a large trout |
| 23:43.18 | Antiarc | loooooooooooooooooooooooooool. |
| 23:43.21 | Antiarc | Holy crap, hahahaha. |
| 23:43.29 | Antiarc | http://gizmodo.com/5121311/30gb-zunes-failing-everywhere-all-at-once |
| 23:45.41 | ckknight | squirt. |
| 23:46.25 | ckknight | hey, I have tomorrow off |
| 23:46.25 | ckknight | sweet |
| 23:47.40 | Zenom | LOL |
| 23:47.45 | Zenom | You were expecting to work? |
| 23:48.07 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 23:48.14 | ckknight | I just kinda show up, work, and go home |
| 23:48.27 | Zenom | I tried getting my guys today and Friday off, but the CEO said no. |
| 23:48.28 | Zenom | LOL |
| 23:48.48 | nevcairiel | tomorrow is a national holiday for us |
| 23:48.54 | Fisker- | http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qbaxv69OpF4 <-what the shit |
| 23:48.57 | ckknight | yea, apparently it is for us, too |
| 23:48.57 | nevcairiel | or rather, thats today already |
| 23:49.03 | ckknight | oh well |
| 23:49.06 | ckknight | bars look nicer |
| 23:49.21 | Zenom | Just more time to work on PitBull4 |
| 23:49.24 | ckknight | feel free to try to break the localization app. |
| 23:49.30 | ckknight | Zenom: that's the plan, actually |
| 23:49.52 | ckknight | Xinhuan: I have an idea on how to stop spammers and the like, I guess I'll do that Friday |
| 23:50.12 | Zenom | Yeah I am gona try and start the portrait module tomorrow. |
| 23:50.17 | ckknight | but basically, each phrase-language pair would have multiple translations with one marked as the main one, and then allow users to be banned |
| 23:50.27 | ckknight | Zenom: okay |
| 23:50.45 | Xinhuan | that sounds like a lot of overhead |
| 23:50.53 | Xinhuan | to store an entire history of every translation |
| 23:51.08 | ckknight | (we already do that in activities) |
| 23:51.24 | ckknight | but basically there'd be a uniqueness constraint for phrase-language-user |
| 23:51.28 | ckknight | so each user would have at max one |
| 23:51.36 | ckknight | so if they change it, it'd change |
| 23:51.45 | ckknight | new users would make a new one |
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| 23:51.56 | ckknight | the old one would display as a choice (but not the current one) |
| 23:52.02 | ckknight | along with other suggestions. |
| 23:52.40 | Fisker- | PAE! |
| 23:52.50 | ckknight | don't know what that is, Fisker- |
| 23:52.54 | ant1pathy | god this is frustrating D: |
| 23:52.58 | ckknight | cya later |
| 23:53.32 | Daemona | you are putting a spam blocker into Pitbull4?? |
| 23:53.48 | Zenom | Don't think thats what he meant. |
| 23:53.59 | doom0r | 25man 6fps sucks |
| 23:54.12 | Zenom | ouch |
| 23:57.47 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 23:57.55 | Xinhuan | i have an idea of how/why a mage can pull aggro |
| 23:58.05 | Xinhuan | needs some testing, brb |
| 23:58.52 | gix | doom0r: 6fps in empty exodar sucks even more :< |
| 23:59.21 | Zenom | gix: lol |
| 23:59.33 | Zenom | is that with low graphics settings? |
| 23:59.44 | gix | yes, and without any addons :p |
| 23:59.46 | Fisker- | Physical Address Extension ck |
| 23:59.48 | Fisker- | noooooo |
| 23:59.52 | Zenom | wow thats terrible lol |
| 23:59.53 | Fisker- | i hate you nevcairiel |
| 23:59.56 | Fisker- | it's all your fault |
| 23:59.58 | doom0r | nvidia says its something blizz needs to figure out, blizz says they "don't know what the cause is and are looking into things" |
