| 00:00.25 | Shefki | Almost easier to manually update these days. |
| 00:00.27 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.40 * r161 : RaidBuffStatus: |
| 00:00.29 | Repo | - Tagged to release. |
| 00:00.54 | Aiiane | Shefki: just write batch files for invoke the CLversions of VCS clients :P |
| 00:00.54 | ckknight | maybe we should tell him to get on IRC :-P |
| 00:01.05 | Aiiane | to invoke* |
| 00:01.08 | Shefki | Aiiane: Very tempting yeah. |
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| 00:01.29 | nevcairiel | thats what i do, anyway |
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| 00:01.36 | nevcairiel | some batch file that runs svn and git |
| 00:04.04 | Shefki | I use a lot of addons so it'd take some time to setup and I'm lazy. |
| 00:05.25 | Arrowmaster | for /D %%I in (*) do if exist "%%~fI\.svn" svn update "%%~I" --ignore-externals |
| 00:08.22 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: on another note: wtb spam report that BadBoy didn't catch? |
| 00:08.26 | doom0r | Ackis: ping |
| 00:10.08 | Shefki | Speaking of BadBoy, thanks a lot Funkeh` for writing and keeping that thing updated. |
| 00:12.33 | Funkeh` | Gnarfoz, ? |
| 00:13.00 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: pm |
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| 00:15.07 | Funkeh` | Gnarfoz, even better, go into thaddius and tell me the module rev |
| 00:15.43 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: uh, can't go, he's dead :O |
| 00:16.06 | Funkeh` | wow that's not the reply I was expecting |
| 00:16.11 | Gnarfoz | oh right |
| 00:16.13 | Gnarfoz | sry, misread |
| 00:16.13 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 00:16.18 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 00:16.21 | Gnarfoz | kind of distracted |
| 00:17.14 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: mod.revision = tonumber(("$Revision: 4849 $"):sub(12, -3)) |
| 00:17.59 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 7489d94 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] add ReadyCheckIcon |
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| 00:35.59 | Fisker- | 1ups Antiarc |
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| 00:44.37 | ckknight | @project pitbull4 |
| 00:44.39 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/. PitBull Unit Frames 4.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author). Updated: 23 minutes ago. Tickets: 2/8 |
| 00:44.41 | ckknight | viisual: ^-- |
| 00:44.51 | Fisker- | @project yourmom |
| 00:44.52 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 00:44.52 | Repo | Fisker-: No project found that matches 'yourmom' |
| 00:45.00 | viisual | lol |
| 00:45.08 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/big-wigs_karazhan/. BigWigs_Karazhan. funkydude (Manager/Author). Approved by funkydude. |
| 00:45.26 | Fisker- | Funkeh` is abusing his powers to approve his own projects!1 |
| 00:45.37 | Funkeh` | yourmom |
| 00:45.46 | Fisker- | nou :( |
| 00:46.07 | Funkeh` | but you see wha it did there right |
| 00:46.52 | ckknight | Fisker-: you realize that it's fine, right? |
| 00:47.28 | ckknight | if someone is found to abuse the system and approve their own shitty addons, then they'd be removed as a moderator anyway |
| 00:47.54 | Funkeh` | yeah Fisker- so IN YOUR FACE |
| 00:48.04 | Funkeh` | so long since I've said that |
| 00:48.15 | Stanzilla | licks Funkeh` |
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| 00:48.48 | Fisker- | licks Stanzilla |
| 00:48.55 | Stanzilla | rawr |
| 00:48.59 | Fisker- | but no ckknight |
| 00:49.04 | Fisker- | srs post is srs |
| 00:49.09 | Fisker- | VERY srs |
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| 00:52.17 | Repo | 10big-wigs_karazhan: 03funkydude * r2 / (14 files in 1 directory): BigWigs_Karazhan: Import? |
| 00:52.57 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: what are you doing? |
| 00:53.08 | Arrowmaster | @project big-wigs_tbc |
| 00:53.09 | Fisker- | whatcha wearing? |
| 00:53.09 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/big-wigs_tbc/. BigWigs_TBC. Game: WoW. Rabbit (Manager/Author). Updated: 6 days ago |
| 00:53.10 | Funkeh` | importing old stuff |
| 00:53.19 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: already done |
| 00:53.29 | Funkeh` | I don't want it packaged up |
| 00:53.39 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * d8c9f37 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] add VoiceIcon (actually a custom_indicator, but mum's the word) |
| 00:54.47 | Arrowmaster | you should talk to vhaarr then, having it in 2 places is bad, and could also confuse the curseclient |
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| 00:56.40 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster, the tbc package isn't released |
| 00:56.54 | Arrowmaster | good point |
| 00:56.54 | Funkeh` | having them individually will infact help not confuse the client |
| 00:57.06 | Funkeh` | assuming people have the efolders still on their hd |
| 00:57.19 | Funkeh` | and they need to release the new one ffs |
| 00:57.44 | Funkeh` | you hear me Kaelten ! |
| 00:57.48 | Funkeh` | damn you ! |
| 00:57.51 | Arrowmaster | hes gone |
| 00:57.56 | Funkeh` | I know |
| 00:58.02 | Funkeh` | that's why I'm damning him now |
| 00:58.24 | Funkeh` | he can't defend himself |
| 00:59.42 | Funkeh` | ain't that how it's done Fisker- |
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| 01:00.12 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 24bcff0 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] add Module:UpdateForGUID(guid). make VoiceIcon work on a guid basis rather than unit basis. |
| 01:00.27 | Funkeh` | what I would give to hold you right now nymbia |
| 01:01.49 | ckknight | ? |
| 01:01.55 | Funkeh` | so whats the main diffs of pb4 ckk |
| 01:02.02 | ckknight | @project pitbull4 |
| 01:02.04 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/. PitBull Unit Frames 4.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author). Updated: 100 seconds ago. Tickets: 2/8 |
| 01:02.05 | ckknight | read description |
| 01:02.20 | Funkeh` | it's not done |
| 01:02.23 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 01:02.24 | Fisker- | What does the description say? |
| 01:02.29 | Funkeh` | was pb3 ever done? |
| 01:03.02 | Fisker- | good night sweet princes |
| 01:03.17 | Repo | 10big-wigs_karazhan: 03funkydude 04r3-release * r3 : Tagging as r3-release |
| 01:03.30 | Funkeh` | good night Fisker- |
| 01:03.37 | Funkeh` | my love buni |
| 01:03.39 | Ackis | what's the latest and greatest raid consumable checker mod now? |
| 01:03.40 | ckknight | Funkeh`: :-P |
| 01:03.58 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1230512399282.gif <- i lol'd btw |
| 01:04.18 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 01:04.19 | Groktar | haha |
| 01:04.25 | ckknight | lol, Fisker- |
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| 01:04.42 | Funkeh` | I hate how it makes an animated ico file |
| 01:04.45 | Funkeh` | fucking firefox |
| 01:04.52 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: raids need consumables? |
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| 01:04.58 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: good point |
| 01:05.06 | ckknight | Funkeh`: all-in-all, PitBull4 only has a few things left, but they are big things. Specifically the aura module needs to be done (probably going to be a proper rewrite, not a port) and group support (party/raid) |
| 01:05.23 | Arrowmaster | silly image |
| 01:05.38 | Funkeh` | will it use rock |
| 01:05.45 | Groktar | ace3 i hear |
| 01:06.18 | ckknight | yea, I caved |
| 01:06.20 | ckknight | it uses Ace3 |
| 01:06.26 | Funkeh` | cool |
| 01:06.55 | sacarasc | summons a cave in over ckknight |
| 01:07.06 | ckknight | o noes |
| 01:07.16 | ckknight | Funkeh`: feel free to check it out, though, I'm always accepting advice |
| 01:07.29 | ckknight | or at least acknowledging advice |
| 01:07.33 | Funkeh` | I will when I'm back in the game again |
| 01:07.49 | Funkeh` | last I was using oUF but I disabled all my addons since I haven't played in a while |
| 01:08.08 | ckknight | alright |
| 01:08.13 | Funkeh` | I need to start UI'ing again |
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| 01:08.21 | Funkeh` | so new things I'm open to |
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| 01:09.20 | Funkeh` | is it in a usable state? |
| 01:09.55 | ckknight | Funkeh`: if you don't care about auras or party/raid frames |
| 01:09.57 | Groktar | injects various controlled substances into Funkeh`s veins |
| 01:10.08 | ckknight | use Grid for party/raid frames for now |
| 01:10.10 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 01:10.26 | Funkeh` | I dislike party/raid frames |
| 01:10.29 | ckknight | part of me contemplates not having raid frames in PitBull, just say "get Grid" |
| 01:10.31 | Funkeh` | I have them off usually |
| 01:10.40 | Funkeh` | as a rogue I usually just don't care |
| 01:10.42 | ckknight | party is useful, though, definitely |
| 01:10.59 | Codayus | Mmm, I use grid for party frames too. :-) |
| 01:11.09 | ckknight | well, I like PitBull for party frames |
| 01:11.13 | ckknight | but for raid frames, it's overkill |
| 01:11.15 | Codayus | I suspect most people wouldn't want to do that though. :( |
| 01:11.16 | ckknight | for the most part |
| 01:11.39 | ckknight | though with the new layout system, you could theoretically emulate a grid-like layout |
| 01:11.43 | ckknight | but that's beside the point |
| 01:12.54 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r4877-release * r4877 : Tagging as r4877-release |
| 01:13.32 | Funkeh` | I wish I hadn't named serpentshrine "SC" |
| 01:13.40 | Funkeh` | one of those things that comes back and byts you in the ass |
| 01:13.43 | Funkeh` | worst name ever |
| 01:14.10 | ckknight | SC? |
| 01:14.18 | Funkeh` | it's just short |
| 01:14.18 | ckknight | wouldn't it be SS? |
| 01:14.24 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 01:14.38 | Funkeh` | but I made that folder before it was even open |
| 01:14.48 | nymbia | sherpentshrine cavern ;) |
| 01:14.49 | Funkeh` | like 2 years ago or something |
| 01:15.24 | quiescens | we always used to use ssc |
| 01:15.33 | Funkeh` | so did everyone |
| 01:15.34 | Groktar | same |
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| 01:15.44 | Groktar | unless you guys are talking directory names for sound files or something? |
| 01:15.53 | Funkeh` | but like I said I named it predicting people would use sc |
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| 01:19.38 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/big-wigs_hyjal/. BigWigs_Hyjal. funkydude (Manager/Author). Approved by funkydude. |
| 01:22.35 | Groktar | i don't even use party frames |
| 01:24.12 | Repo | 10big-wigs_hyjal: 03funkydude * r2 / (7 files in 1 directory): BigWigs_Hyjal: Import |
| 01:24.18 | Funkeh` | damn right |
| 01:24.21 | Funkeh` | screw your party |
| 01:24.30 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 2688d54 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] add HappinessIcon |
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| 01:28.21 | Funkeh` | ckknight, I preffered the auto slug >.> |
| 01:28.30 | ckknight | Funkeh`: for what? |
| 01:28.35 | Funkeh` | creating projects |
| 01:28.49 | ckknight | it never did an automatic slug for projects |
| 01:28.51 | ckknight | you always chose it |
| 01:29.06 | Funkeh` | it did it auto when the import was happening |
| 01:29.09 | ckknight | it used to be called "short name", though |
| 01:29.13 | ckknight | that's true. |
| 01:29.24 | Funkeh` | would be cool to "leave blank for auto" |
| 01:29.36 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 01:29.44 | Arrowmaster | then i would have to rename more stuff |
| 01:29.56 | Funkeh` | how so? |
| 01:30.08 | Arrowmaster | because the auto was stupid |
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| 01:31.25 | Funkeh` | once you've had 20 bigwigs modules auto'd it's hard to manually type the rest like shit because you want to keep consistency |
| 01:32.09 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/big-wigs_blacktemple/. BigWigs_BlackTemple. funkydude (Manager/Author). Approved by funkydude. |
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| 01:32.28 | ckknight | Funkeh`: hrm |
| 01:32.30 | Aens|Superiority | What is a nice and simple chat mod which adds mouse scroll functionality to it and nothing else? |
| 01:32.51 | Aens|Superiority | Minimalist used to do what I wanted, but the guild might be moving over to using the built in calendar. minimalist and squeenix do not play well together. |
| 01:33.03 | Funkeh` | Aens|Superiority, you can DL basicchatmods and comment out everything but that in the toc |
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| 01:34.09 | Funkeh` | at least it's the only mod I can think of that has every feature in a different file so you don''t need to code mess |
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| 01:35.01 | Funkeh` | why am I so tempted to torrent the leaked windows 7 |
| 01:35.24 | haste | because someone said it was better than vista |
| 01:35.27 | quiescens | curiosity killed the cat |
| 01:35.38 | Funkeh` | need to install some VM on this machine |
| 01:35.42 | Arrowmaster | its just a rebranded vista |
| 01:35.56 | Funkeh` | exactly |
| 01:35.57 | Stanzilla | no |
| 01:36.01 | Funkeh` | it's what vista should have been |
| 01:36.04 | Codayus | Because Microsofts marketing has been extremely good. |
| 01:36.05 | Funkeh` | i.e. a sucess |
| 01:36.08 | Stanzilla | thats correct, Funkeh` |
| 01:36.16 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 01:36.17 | Stanzilla | its like Vista Release 2 |
| 01:36.29 | Arrowmaster | it still has all the drm crap in it so its not what vista should have been |
| 01:36.31 | Funkeh` | I could bet you that w7 will be the next success since xp |
| 01:36.38 | Stanzilla | drm lolz |
| 01:37.07 | Funkeh` | gpu based graphics system is going to rock |
| 01:37.15 | Codayus | Meh, most people don't care about DRM. (Note: I have no idea if thats true. But I don't care, so I will indulge in the long respected practice ofassuming everyone is just like me.) |
| 01:37.32 | Funkeh` | hopefully programs follow that route |
| 01:38.15 | Arrowmaster | sorry i dont like the idea of microsoft being able to remotely disable any drivers my operating system is using because they classify them as a security risk to their drm |
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| 01:40.27 | Funkeh` | I don't care either |
| 01:40.59 | Funkeh` | I've never worked with drm or had drm enabled songs etc |
| 01:41.24 | Arrowmaster | you see it doesnt matter if you have anything that uses drm |
| 01:41.47 | Codayus | Corporate customers really won't care. Individuals might care, but most won't know, and of the few who do, many still won't care. |
| 01:42.03 | Arrowmaster | they can still remotely disable the drivers and the hardware will never work until new drivers for it are available |
| 01:42.34 | Funkeh` | what in particular are you reffering to? |
| 01:42.40 | Funkeh` | I've never heard of such a thing happening |
| 01:42.52 | Stanzilla | it never happened |
| 01:43.08 | Funkeh` | Well it sounds more like rumous to me really |
| 01:43.17 | Funkeh` | ms remotely accessing your system sounds liek crap |
| 01:43.31 | Arrowmaster | its not them remotely accessing it |
| 01:43.34 | Funkeh` | some kind of conspiracy |
| 01:43.45 | Stanzilla | its just that they can make your system say "uhoh bad driver, no install for you" |
| 01:43.59 | Arrowmaster | its them marking a driver as not to be run and windows getting the updated list and disabling it |
| 01:44.24 | Funkeh` | Well have you ever come across a driver as such or plan to install one? |
| 01:44.41 | Funkeh` | I don't know about you, but I've always used known/official hardware w/ drivers |
| 01:44.47 | Jaxon | Arrowmaster is talking about something called Pallidum that was introduced quite a few years ago. |
| 01:45.09 | Arrowmaster | yes and they will do it to official drivers, since thats the only thing vista and higher will run |
| 01:45.10 | Repo | 10big-wigs_blacktemple: 03funkydude * r2 / (9 files in 1 directory): BigWigs_BlackTemple: Import |
| 01:45.17 | Stanzilla | *palladium |
| 01:45.28 | Jaxon | Stanzilla: I was close! |
| 01:45.30 | Arrowmaster | http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html |
| 01:45.34 | Arrowmaster | its in there somewhere |
| 01:45.34 | Stanzilla | :> |
| 01:45.43 | Shefki | Welcome to the world of licensing. You don't own the OS. Until people wake up and realize it's a retarded system you'll have crap like that. |
| 01:45.45 | Jaxon | Arrowmaster's link is an excellent read. |
| 01:45.55 | Funkeh` | So do you pan to stay on XP forever? |
| 01:45.59 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 01:46.08 | Arrowmaster | linux or mac for my next system |
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| 01:46.26 | Shefki | I'm on a Mac and happy, though Apple isn't much better than Microsoft. |
| 01:46.41 | Stanzilla | I'm happy with windows 7 |
| 01:46.41 | Arrowmaster | though if i go mac it will be a hackintosh |
| 01:46.45 | Stanzilla | and it will be a good OS |
| 01:46.49 | Shefki | But at least stuff works. |
| 01:46.54 | Funkeh` | me too stan |
| 01:46.58 | Funkeh` | looks brilliant |
| 01:47.01 | Funkeh` | and I can't wait |
| 01:47.15 | Stanzilla | beta 1 runs awesome |
| 01:47.21 | Stanzilla | already more stable and faster than vista |
| 01:47.26 | Shefki | I'll consider a MS OS the day they scrap backwards compatability entirely and start from the ground up. |
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| 01:47.40 | Stanzilla | Shefki: they can't :P |
| 01:47.50 | Shefki | Of course they can. |
| 01:48.01 | Stanzilla | the userbase is too large for that |
| 01:48.05 | Shefki | Apple did it from Classic -> OS X. |
| 01:48.12 | Stanzilla | I know |
| 01:48.19 | Stanzilla | when like 10 people used it :p |
| 01:48.26 | Shefki | More than 10 people used a Mac. |
| 01:48.31 | Codayus | Mmmm, I hate to interject facts into such a wonderful sea of conspiracy theories. But. Vista will install unsigned drivers. FYI. |
| 01:48.34 | Stanzilla | that was just a number |
| 01:48.51 | Repo | 10big-wigs_blacktemple: 03funkydude 04r3-release * r3 : Tagging as r3-release |
| 01:49.01 | Shefki | There's only one reason Microsoft can't do it... And it's a marketing reason. |
| 01:49.09 | Codayus | Please continue with your vista hating. Did you know it keylogs your WoW password andemails them to Bill Gates? |
| 01:49.11 | Shefki | If people had to start over with a new system they'd have a choice. |
| 01:49.20 | Shefki | It has nothing to do with the user base and everything to do with lock in. |
| 01:49.33 | Funkeh` | ofc vista installs unsigned drivers |
| 01:49.42 | Funkeh` | they are saying it won't install drivers against it's drm |
| 01:49.43 | Arrowmaster | Codayus: it wont pass 'premium content' to any unsigned drivers |
| 01:49.44 | Funkeh` | or something |
| 01:49.58 | Arrowmaster | http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html#revocation |
| 01:50.00 | Arrowmaster | right there |
| 01:50.05 | Funkeh` | I install unsigned graphics drivers on my laptop all the time |
| 01:50.06 | Stanzilla | Codayus: it's not vista hating. it's just that the vista released was rushed and that 7 is the awesome thing we should have gotten from the start |
| 01:50.19 | Stanzilla | *vista release |
| 01:51.55 | Aiiane | remind me to quote that in a year Stanzilla |
| 01:52.05 | Stanzilla | heh |
| 01:52.32 | Funkeh` | well there's a new guy in charge for w7 |
| 01:52.35 | Funkeh` | who will save us all |
| 01:52.43 | Funkeh` | and bring releases quick and on time |
| 01:52.43 | Jaxon | Jobs? |
| 01:52.44 | Repo | 10broker-hitcrit: 03next96 * r54 Locales/koKR.lua: Broker_HitCrit : |
| 01:52.47 | Repo | - Update locale koKR |
| 01:52.48 | Stanzilla | yup, mr sinofsky |
| 01:52.51 | Groktar | i'd be shocked if windows 7 is fail |
| 01:52.58 | Stanzilla | Groktar: it isnt |
| 01:53.00 | Matrix110 | The Beta is nice already |
| 01:53.01 | Arrowmaster | id be shocked if it wasnt |
| 01:53.03 | Groktar | since they're just building off vista, and vista is fine right now |
| 01:53.19 | Matrix110 | But Windows 7 has a MAJOR FAIL integrated |
| 01:53.25 | Matrix110 | that it comes as 32bit version AGAIN |
| 01:53.50 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 01:53.53 | Funkeh` | I was thinking the same |
| 01:53.58 | Funkeh` | they need to release a 64bit only |
| 01:54.02 | Funkeh` | or it will never happen |
| 01:54.05 | Matrix110 | They want to but cant |
| 01:54.05 | Groktar | would be a good idea |
| 01:54.14 | Aiiane | enough processors are still 32bit |
| 01:54.16 | Groktar | then people wouldn't install it on 6 year old systems |
| 01:54.17 | Matrix110 | Dell/HP/Acer/Lenova complained |
| 01:54.17 | Stanzilla | 7 is the last windows with a 32bit version |
| 01:54.21 | Aiiane | that releasing 64bit only would be suicide |
| 01:54.21 | Groktar | and bitch when it runs like shit |
| 01:54.22 | Funkeh` | because intel is fucking lazy |
| 01:54.31 | Funkeh` | amd has 64 mainstream |
| 01:54.34 | Matrix110 | MS wanted to release Vista 64bit only |
| 01:54.35 | Stanzilla | Win Server 2008 R2 (7 server) is 64bit only |
| 01:54.44 | Stanzilla | Matrix110: nah |
| 01:55.01 | Matrix110 | some dev said it but the above complained |
| 01:55.10 | Matrix110 | and companies |
| 01:55.14 | Codayus | Of course, Vista was slow enough it wouldn't make sense to TRY and run it on most 32 bit hardware... |
| 01:55.21 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: intel is all 64 bit, well actually i dont know about the atom but everything else is 64 |
| 01:55.25 | doom0r | Ackis: Goldthorn Tea isn't working in ARL |
| 01:55.45 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster, ? none of the core2duo is 64 and the new i7 is not 64 |
| 01:55.51 | Arrowmaster | yes they are |
| 01:55.52 | Matrix110 | Atom is 64bit capable |
| 01:55.58 | Codayus | Funkeh`: Wrong. |
| 01:56.05 | Arrowmaster | all the core's have been 64bit |
| 01:56.06 | Matrix110 | Funkeh` every Core2Duo has Intel64 (=AMD64) integrated |
| 01:56.19 | Groktar | ^ |
| 01:56.26 | Funkeh` | and i7? |
| 01:56.29 | Matrix110 | ofc |
| 01:56.31 | Arrowmaster | 64bit |
| 01:56.38 | Groktar | boggles |
| 01:56.43 | Matrix110 | I will never get why Intel was allowed to rename it though :D |
| 01:56.43 | Funkeh` | weird it as never mentioned |
| 01:56.53 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 01:56.54 | Codayus | (It's been a LONG time since I've touched a non-64 bit PC.) |
| 01:57.14 | Codayus | Funkeh`: Nobody mentions it because everything is 64 bit, and has been for ages. It's just assumed. :-p |
| 01:57.15 | Arrowmaster | Codayus: using one right now |
| 01:57.18 | Matrix110 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64#Intel_64_Implementations |
| 01:57.56 | Matrix110 | Every PC that has a non 64bit capable CPU shouldnt run Windows 7 (or Vista) anyway :P |
| 01:58.04 | Arrowmaster | have two 64bit laptops and a 64bit desktop, but my desktop is still 32bit |
| 01:58.08 | doom0r | The x86-64 specification was designed by Advanced Micro Devices (AMD), who have since renamed it AMD64.[1] Intel has implemented it under the name Intel 64 (formerly EM64T or IA-32e) in its own x86 processors.[2] |
| 01:58.27 | Codayus | Heh |
| 01:58.38 | doom0r | yes, everyone has taken a personal name |
| 01:58.54 | Arrowmaster | everybody still calls it x86-64 though |
| 01:59.00 | Matrix110 | Well actually Intel paid AMD with free SSE licenses :D |
| 01:59.18 | Matrix110 | And Via pays AMD i think |
| 01:59.20 | Codayus | I've mostly seen it as just x64... |
| 01:59.32 | Arrowmaster | that too |
| 02:00.24 | Matrix110 | IA-64 wouldve been better though! |
| 02:00.34 | *** part/#wowace Kilroo (n=Kilroo@cpe-098-026-168-017.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 02:00.44 | Matrix110 | Its actually the superior architecture but sadly alot more "complicated" to implement |
| 02:01.39 | Codayus | Compatability issues too, no? |
| 02:01.40 | Arrowmaster | but ofcourse we all know that nothing has been an x86 processor since the p1, they all just convert x86 instructions to their internal architecture, so really amd and intels implementations are probably quite different since their internal architecutes are different |
| 02:01.47 | Matrix110 | Codayus thats what I meant |
| 02:02.03 | Arrowmaster | ia-64 was not a superior architecture |
| 02:02.15 | Arrowmaster | ask the hp-ux users |
| 02:03.50 | Arrowmaster | fuckers killed one of the best processor architectures and switched to ia-64, and then tons of people proved the ia-64 was less powerful |
| 02:04.22 | Codayus | Heh |
| 02:04.33 | Arrowmaster | rip alpha |
| 02:04.48 | Matrix110 | Well the point is x86 is old and not made anymore for the todays computing where a single Core doesnt get faster anymore and thus speeding up a applications is only possible with paralessing(god I hate the word) and IA-64 is alot better than x64 atleast |
| 02:05.00 | Matrix110 | well Iam just comparing those 2 there can be better ones ofc |
| 02:06.12 | Arrowmaster | it has nothing to do with x86 |
| 02:06.33 | Arrowmaster | like i said there hasnt been an x86 processor since the p1 |
| 02:07.36 | Matrix110 | But the CPUs are based on executing x86(or x64) code as efficently as possible and not made for others |
| 02:08.39 | Wraithan | Functional programming is the way of the future, because of it's ability to run in parallel easily |
| 02:11.06 | ckknight | Wraithan: http://www.wowace.com/paste/56/ |
| 02:11.26 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/big-wigs_zulaman/. BigWigs_ZulAman. funkydude (Manager/Author). Approved by funkydude. |
| 02:13.04 | Arrowmaster | ugly syntax |
| 02:13.18 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: that's arguable |
| 02:13.32 | Repo | 10big-wigs_zulaman: 03funkydude * r2 / (7 files in 1 directory): BigWigs_ZulAman: Import |
| 02:13.33 | haste | needs more bells and whistles |
| 02:13.58 | Arrowmaster | yes need more languages like pascal that use periods |
| 02:14.28 | Arrowmaster | it wasnt a good idea then, its probably not a good one now |
| 02:14.40 | Repo | 10big-wigs_zulaman: 03funkydude 04r3-release * r3 : Tagging as r3-release |
| 02:14.58 | ckknight | I do think that an erlang-like language (feature-wise) could be done with nicer syntax, though |
| 02:16.19 | doom0r | ckknight: ticket results filter is messed up |
| 02:16.29 | ckknight | doom0r: link |
| 02:16.32 | doom0r | http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/ |
| 02:17.55 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 975ff89 / (7 files in 4 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 02:17.57 | Repo | 975ff89: add ComboPoints module. |
| 02:18.00 | Repo | 3086f05: add a special height modifier for custom indicator modules. |
| 02:18.10 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/big-wigs_theeye/. BigWigs_TheEye. funkydude (Manager/Author). Approved by funkydude. |
| 02:18.23 | ckknight | doom0r: ah, the display of it? |
| 02:18.28 | doom0r | yup |
| 02:19.02 | ckknight | ...yea |
| 02:19.07 | ckknight | I'm gonna go out on a limb here |
| 02:19.09 | ckknight | and blame gnomes |
| 02:19.55 | Aeyan | Safe bet |
| 02:21.04 | Repo | 10big-wigs_theeye: 03funkydude * r2 / (5 files in 1 directory): BigWigs_TheEye: Import |
| 02:22.07 | Repo | 10big-wigs_theeye: 03funkydude 04r3-release * r3 : Tagging as r3-release |
| 02:22.11 | *** join/#wowace nekoh (n=nekoh@p4FD895A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:22.44 | Stanzilla | isn't the real name "Tempest Keep", Funkeh` :P |
| 02:22.51 | Funkeh` | no |
| 02:22.58 | Funkeh` | tempest keep is the entire thing |
| 02:23.07 | Stanzilla | kk |
| 02:23.07 | Funkeh` | it's split into subsections |
| 02:23.31 | Funkeh` | but I put "...of Tempest Keep" in the description |
| 02:23.35 | Funkeh` | so people are not like WTF |
| 02:24.17 | Arrowmaster | SSC was originally coilfang, but blizz renamed it after complaints but they never renamed tempest keep, referring to the GetRealZoneText() output |
| 02:24.43 | Funkeh` | that was me |
| 02:24.48 | Funkeh` | but they never renamed it |
| 02:24.56 | Funkeh` | @TK |
| 02:24.58 | Funkeh` | they did with ssc |
| 02:25.05 | Arrowmaster | was weird |
| 02:25.28 | Funkeh` | the complex is coilfang, the instance is it's subsection |
| 02:25.32 | *** join/#wowace kadrahil (i=webfreak@xor.pablotron.org) |
| 02:25.35 | Funkeh` | I got so pissed off at them for that |
| 02:25.55 | Funkeh` | pretty sure I got banned on EU |
| 02:26.00 | Funkeh` | forums |
| 02:26.48 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 02:26.56 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/big-wigs_sunwell/. BigWigs_Sunwell. funkydude (Manager/Author). Approved by funkydude. |
| 02:27.31 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky * r6 / (2 files in 1 directory): GnomishYellowPages: |
| 02:27.33 | Repo | -reworked /who yet again |
| 02:27.35 | Repo | -added some filtering options to players and skill levels |
| 02:27.37 | Repo | -added interface options for controlling who update system (toggle and frequency) |
| 02:29.32 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: ah, nice. was gonna ask some time when you were gonna do that. :> |
| 02:29.46 | Funkeh` | get banned? |
| 02:30.03 | Repo | 10big-wigs_sunwell: 03funkydude * r2 / (7 files in 1 directory): BigWigs_Sunwell: Import |
| 02:30.35 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: huwha what? :D |
| 02:30.37 | Funkeh` | well I just released the new bw with the instances removed |
| 02:30.50 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: no, split out the old BW modules, how did you get to "get banned"? xD |
| 02:31.24 | Repo | 10big-wigs_sunwell: 03funkydude 04r3-release * r3 : Tagging as r3-release |
| 02:32.31 | ckknight | mmm... PitBull4's ComboPoints module is about half the size of PB3's and yet has far more features. I think I win. |
| 02:33.16 | Elkano | one could alos say you failed before ;) |
| 02:33.16 | Arrowmaster | wasnt half of pb3's shit for trying to figure out if it was in PitBull/ComboPoints/ or PitBull_ComboPoints/ anyway? |
| 02:33.22 | Repo | 10wintergraspfu: 03-Adron- * r9 WintergraspFu.lua: Fixed error from uninitialized variable on first run |
| 02:33.31 | Gnarfoz | Elkano: beeep. :P |
| 02:33.32 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: that's just the top line, actau |
| 02:33.35 | ckknight | actually* |
| 02:33.43 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 02:33.57 | Gnarfoz | but actually |
| 02:34.03 | Gnarfoz | what *more* features would that be? |
| 02:34.15 | Arrowmaster | vehicle support |
| 02:34.21 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: hehe, there's that |
| 02:34.23 | Gnarfoz | that's in PB3, too |
| 02:34.31 | Gnarfoz | unless you did something totally different |
| 02:34.32 | Arrowmaster | no its not afaik |
| 02:34.37 | Gnarfoz | it is. |
| 02:34.39 | ckknight | yes, it is. |
| 02:34.41 | Gnarfoz | I'm using it week for week :p |
| 02:34.47 | Arrowmaster | well it wasnt |
| 02:34.49 | ckknight | it can be positioned nearly anywhere on the target frame, it can grow vertically instead of horizontally, and it can be scaled properly. |
| 02:34.50 | Gnarfoz | it IS :P |
| 02:34.56 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/big-wigs_outland/. BigWigs_Outland. funkydude (Manager/Author). Approved by funkydude. |
| 02:34.58 | Gnarfoz | grrr now stop bashing addons :P |
| 02:35.05 | Arrowmaster | never |
| 02:35.06 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: ah, neat |
| 02:35.30 | Gnarfoz | or "finally" whichever soudns better to you ;) |
| 02:35.48 | ckknight | hehe |
| 02:35.57 | Repo | 10wintergraspfu: 03-Adron- 041.0-beta2 * r10 : |
| 02:35.59 | Repo | Tagging beta2; fixed uninitialized variable error on first load |
| 02:36.03 | ckknight | PitBull4's framework is a lot nicer to code against |
| 02:36.28 | ckknight | vangual's already working on the totem timers for it |
| 02:36.36 | Gnarfoz | man I wish I was nerd enough to code addons for games I don't play :D |
| 02:36.41 | ckknight | hehe |
| 02:36.45 | ckknight | knowledge is power! |
| 02:36.51 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 02:36.52 | ckknight | and I like coding, it's gratifying |
| 02:37.42 | Gnarfoz | too bad that once either you stop coding stuff for wow, I stop playing and keeping track of wow, or blizzard shutting wow down, at one point I'll lose track of all the crazy stuff you do :P |
| 02:38.04 | Stanzilla | that sounds cute :P |
| 02:38.32 | Gnarfoz | it's a well-worded way to say "you're awesome" |
| 02:38.35 | Repo | 10big-wigs_outland: 03funkydude * r2 / (6 files in 1 directory): BigWigs_Outland: Import |
| 02:38.40 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 02:39.16 | Gnarfoz | whyever I seem to like having someone to compare against who did so much stuff "better" than I ;D |
| 02:39.31 | Gnarfoz | but I'm not a psychanalyst, so what the heck ^^ |
| 02:39.33 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: I do other stuff, too |
| 02:39.38 | Repo | 10big-wigs_outland: 03funkydude 04r3-release * r3 : Tagging as r3-release |
| 02:39.50 | ckknight | I kinda wrote most of wowace's codebase and all :-P |
| 02:40.26 | Gnarfoz | on that note: did you ever think of making a kind of portfolio web page? |
| 02:40.35 | Gnarfoz | or do you keep one in a non-web page form? |
| 02:40.46 | *** join/#wowace southern44 (n=tm335@c-98-193-211-202.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 02:40.51 | ckknight | I'm trying to acquire ckknight.com |
| 02:40.52 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:41.05 | Funkeh` | so |
| 02:41.13 | Funkeh` | BigWigs_Serpentshrine? |
| 02:41.25 | *** part/#wowace southern44 (n=tm335@c-98-193-211-202.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 02:41.40 | doom0r | but but |
| 02:41.41 | doom0r | dark knight night trafalgar enlightenment at ckknight.com |
| 02:41.49 | doom0r | omg, how could you make them give that up? |
| 02:42.10 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:42.18 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: SSC |
| 02:42.37 | Stanzilla | everyone knows it as ssc |
| 02:42.58 | Funkeh` | oki |
| 02:42.59 | ckknight | doom0r: the guy who had it had the domain expired |
| 02:44.37 | Funkeh` | LOL |
| 02:44.40 | Funkeh` | what a fuckup |
| 02:44.46 | ckknight | ? |
| 02:44.49 | Funkeh` | I haven't titled them all with BigWigs_ |
| 02:45.01 | Funkeh` | the actual folder |
| 02:45.04 | Funkeh` | hahaha |
| 02:46.23 | Funkeh` | no.. |
| 02:46.28 | Funkeh` | it's auto titled it |
| 02:46.38 | Funkeh` | big-wigs_karazhan |
| 02:46.41 | Funkeh` | um |
| 02:46.54 | Gnarfoz | may I |
| 02:46.59 | Gnarfoz | ~fail Funkeh` |
| 02:46.59 | purl | Funkeh`: FAIL! |
| 02:47.02 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: i got arrowmaster.net last month |
| 02:47.04 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
| 02:47.09 | ckknight | that's cool, Arrowmaster |
| 02:47.13 | ckknight | I already have ckknight.org and .net |
| 02:47.16 | ckknight | I want .com, though |
| 02:47.16 | Funkeh` | ckknight, how do I renmae the addon folders being ziped |
| 02:47.20 | Funkeh` | rename |
| 02:47.22 | Gnarfoz | package-as: |
| 02:47.32 | Funkeh` | ah yeah |
| 02:47.37 | ckknight | Funkeh`: http://www.wowace.com/kb/pkgmeta-file/ |
| 02:47.43 | Funkeh` | forgot about that shit |
| 02:47.48 | Arrowmaster | i waited to register it so it would renew on the exact same day as my real name .com |
| 02:47.49 | Gnarfoz | fuck why do I know that off the top of my head :p |
| 02:48.04 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: can't hurt to keep things together, eh? ;D |
| 02:48.06 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: okay |
| 02:48.22 | Gnarfoz | I know I've let at least one of my domains expire because of exactly that |
| 02:49.06 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: ping |
| 02:49.34 | Arrowmaster | my friend let the domain we have our email on lapse a few times |
| 02:50.04 | *** join/#wowace Fatalis[AFK] (n=fatalis@68-188-68-189.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 02:50.06 | Arrowmaster | once wasnt really his fault though since the hosting site registered it for him and in their name |
| 02:50.17 | ckknight | well, I mean, you don't need to worry for too long, just get up to 2013, cause the world's ending in 2012 anyway |
| 02:50.18 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/big-wigs_ssc/. BigWigs_SSC. funkydude (Manager/Author). Approved by funkydude. |
| 02:50.19 | ckknight | amirite? |
| 02:50.34 | Funkeh` | so I gotta go through that shit and add meta files and retag |
| 02:50.35 | Funkeh` | joy |
| 02:51.00 | Arrowmaster | well you can change it on the site too |
| 02:51.05 | Arrowmaster | but you still have to retag |
| 02:51.21 | Arrowmaster | but using .pkgmeta is always better |
| 02:51.29 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: why in 2012 again? I keep losing track. :P |
| 02:51.40 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Kilroo@cpe-098-026-168-017.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 02:51.46 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: Mayan calendar reset |
| 02:51.52 | Gnarfoz | UH-OH |
| 02:51.55 | Gnarfoz | :O |
| 02:52.00 | Arrowmaster | also ending in 2030 |
| 02:52.14 | Gnarfoz | I'll wait until Unix time wraps around or whatever that was |
| 02:52.14 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster, doesn't changing it on the site auto add the meta file? |
| 02:52.16 | Funkeh` | iirc |
| 02:52.21 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:52.23 | ckknight | 2038, Arrowmaster |
| 02:52.34 | Arrowmaster | no not 2038 |
| 02:52.36 | ckknight | Funkeh`: site doesn't mess with the repo |
| 02:52.43 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: why 2030? |
| 02:52.46 | Arrowmaster | 2030 and if not then then 2037 |
| 02:52.53 | Arrowmaster | astroiad |
| 02:53.11 | ckknight | hrm |
| 02:53.15 | Arrowmaster | either it will hit us or go between the earth and the moon |
| 02:53.33 | *** join/#wowace kd3 (n=kd3@wikia/kaydeethree) |
| 02:53.38 | Arrowmaster | if it doesnt hit us then it will hit us in 7 years as its flying away from the sun |
| 02:53.38 | ckknight | yea, but I plan to be heavy into coke by then |
| 02:53.40 | ckknight | so no big whoop |
| 02:54.12 | Repo | 10wintergraspfu: 03-Adron- * r11 WintergraspFu.lua: Failed to copy all changes into working copy |
| 02:55.06 | Repo | 10big-wigs_ssc: 03funkydude * r2 / (8 files in 1 directory): BigWigs_SSC: Import |
| 02:55.46 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: lol |
| 02:56.30 | Funkeh` | is the meta file meant ot update the file, or jus toverule it |
| 02:56.39 | Funkeh` | um |
| 02:56.42 | Funkeh` | rephrase |
| 02:57.02 | Arrowmaster | the setting on the site only works if its not set in the pkgmeta file |
| 02:57.05 | Funkeh` | is the .pkgmeta file meant to update the website, or just overrule it |
| 02:57.17 | Arrowmaster | no clue on that |
| 02:57.48 | Funkeh` | mr ckknight ? |
| 02:58.31 | Repo | 10big-wigs_ssc: 03funkydude 04r3-release * r3 : Tagging as r3-release |
| 02:58.34 | ckknight | overrule it, Funkeh` |
| 03:00.43 | *** join/#wowace Matrix110| (i=Matrix11@pD957E5BF.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 03:01.23 | Funkeh` | ill just update the site then |
| 03:01.26 | Funkeh` | and retag |
| 03:02.41 | Funkeh` | ckknight, for future, package as should take the project name not slug IMO |
| 03:02.59 | Funkeh` | (automatically) |
| 03:03.01 | ckknight | but my project name is "PitBull Unit Frames 4.0" |
| 03:03.05 | Arrowmaster | disagree |
| 03:03.17 | ckknight | that would make little sense to be the package as |
| 03:03.18 | Funkeh` | but most projects are named after the addon file |
| 03:03.19 | Arrowmaster | the slug is ment to be the package as |
| 03:03.33 | ckknight | Funkeh`: only the old imported ones |
| 03:03.34 | Arrowmaster | the automatic import from wowace just sucked |
| 03:04.23 | Repo | 10big-wigs_karazhan: 03funkydude 04r4-release * r4 : Tagging as r4-release |
| 03:06.26 | *** join/#wowace Bibi (n=Bibi@AVelizy-151-1-28-55.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 03:06.27 | Funkeh` | why are peoplez downloading the external mods already |
| 03:06.30 | Funkeh` | le sigh |
| 03:06.37 | Aiiane | that and the auto-slug-namer with its overabundant love for dashes sucked |
| 03:06.53 | Gnarfoz | since when is "shortname" slug? :( |
| 03:06.57 | Gnarfoz | did I miss something :D |
| 03:07.03 | Arrowmaster | since ckknight renamed it |
| 03:07.11 | Gnarfoz | also: do you get rep with tabards in normal Halls of Stone? |
| 03:07.13 | Aiiane | since snail lost out in the polls |
| 03:07.22 | ckknight | yea, I renamed it since "short name" was a horrible name for it |
| 03:07.49 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano) |
| 03:08.03 | Arrowmaster | does slug stand for something? |
| 03:08.04 | Gnarfoz | damn one guy that had a very serious car crash at the beginning of this year posted a picture of himself while he was in a coma back then... |
| 03:08.27 | Gnarfoz | I'm gonna drive even more carefully from now on oO |
| 03:08.39 | Aiiane | do not want |
| 03:08.41 | Gnarfoz | slug is a word, doesn't need to stand for anything :X |
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| 03:09.08 | Gnarfoz | Aiiane: you bet... it's basically like the caricature "all in bandages" guy |
| 03:09.16 | Gnarfoz | shudders |
| 03:09.43 | Funkeh` | ckknight, if I delete this file at wowace will it go away from curse |
| 03:09.50 | ckknight | sure will |
| 03:09.54 | Funkeh` | brill |
| 03:10.01 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: slug is a newspaper term |
| 03:10.18 | ckknight | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slug_(production) |
| 03:10.32 | Gnarfoz | fuck xchat's link grabber |
| 03:10.38 | Gnarfoz | why does it stop at parentheses :p |
| 03:10.42 | ckknight | fuck it hard in the butthole |
| 03:10.52 | Aiiane | ...no thanks |
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| 03:10.59 | Gnarfoz | I don't know if rear or front really makes any difference. :p |
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| 03:11.05 | ckknight | Aiiane: but look at what it's wearing, it's asking for it! |
| 03:11.28 | Aiiane | rolls her eyes |
| 03:11.35 | Gnarfoz | also, do want the PTR ink exchange NPC to go live. |
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| 03:14.32 | Funkeh` | like the butt ckknight ? |
| 03:14.39 | ckknight | I'm a fan |
| 03:14.46 | Funkeh` | not a fan myself :/ |
| 03:14.46 | Arrowmaster | xchat sucks |
| 03:14.51 | ckknight | I can't lie |
| 03:14.56 | Aiiane | bullshit |
| 03:15.05 | Funkeh` | Never done it and doubt I will |
| 03:15.14 | Aiiane | you too can lie ckknight :P |
| 03:15.22 | doom0r | Aiiane: miss more references |
| 03:15.23 | ckknight | to be honest, I doubt you could really deny it |
| 03:15.54 | ckknight | it's just that when I see a girl with a figure that emphasizes her butt, I just enjoy it immensely |
| 03:15.55 | Aiiane | doom0r: i got the reference just fine |
| 03:16.02 | Funkeh` | well.. unless "she" ever actually asks to do it |
| 03:16.05 | Funkeh` | I doubt I will |
| 03:16.08 | Aiiane | itty bitty waists not withstanding |
| 03:16.11 | ckknight | in those slick jeans she's wearing |
| 03:16.23 | ckknight | I mean, it's hard not to stare, really |
| 03:16.39 | Funkeh` | Im all for staring... |
| 03:16.56 | ckknight | I just want to get with her, maybe take some pictures. |
| 03:16.58 | Aiiane | i just take every opportunity i can to rag on ckk, doom0r :P |
| 03:17.09 | ckknight | I mean, my friends aren't all about that, but damn, does it get me going |
| 03:17.37 | ckknight | and I invite her to my Toyota Corolla |
| 03:17.47 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 03:17.48 | Aiiane | ~whalepunt ckknight |
| 03:17.49 | purl | ACTION looks onward as an everest-sized whale called Victor punts ckknight across the Solar System |
| 03:18.04 | Funkeh` | You should try renault clio |
| 03:18.07 | Funkeh` | that takes skill |
| 03:18.17 | ckknight | and I can tell she's not the average girl, I've seen a lot of girls dance |
| 03:18.31 | ckknight | and I'm like, to hell with going on dates, let's get down to it |
| 03:18.48 | Funkeh` | are you singing or blabbering now |
| 03:18.50 | Aiiane | ckknight: you're sober, right? |
| 03:18.50 | ckknight | I'm tired of modern culture saying that flat butts are in, cause that's just not me |
| 03:19.02 | Gnarfoz | since when are not-butts in? |
| 03:19.07 | Aiiane | because assuming this is you sober |
| 03:19.13 | Aiiane | please god, let me never see you drunk :) |
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| 03:19.22 | Gnarfoz | probably not entirely ;D |
| 03:19.32 | ckknight | take the average person and ask them, and I think they'll agree with me |
| 03:19.45 | ckknight | so everyone |
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| 03:19.52 | Funkeh` | I sing when I'm drunk |
| 03:19.56 | Funkeh` | so I avoid it like the plague |
| 03:20.01 | ckknight | do your girlfriends have a good butt? |
| 03:20.06 | ckknight | tell them to shake it. |
| 03:20.09 | ckknight | shake that healthy butt. |
| 03:20.12 | ckknight | baby got back. |
| 03:20.18 | Funkeh` | my ex had a nice ass |
| 03:20.34 | ckknight | in case you hadn't realized, I just transcribed "Baby Got Back" to white-people talk. |
| 03:20.42 | ckknight | how did you not catch on? |
| 03:20.46 | Funkeh` | I did |
| 03:20.47 | ckknight | I went line for line |
| 03:20.48 | Funkeh` | it was horrible |
| 03:20.53 | Funkeh` | thats why I said are you blabbering |
| 03:21.02 | ckknight | Aiiane: I did it for the lulz |
| 03:21.18 | Gnarfoz | I don't even know what you mean by that |
| 03:21.22 | ckknight | and I haven't been drinking |
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| 03:21.32 | ckknight | http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/I_did_it_for_the_lulz |
| 03:21.34 | Gnarfoz | but then I don't follow pop culture or radio or TV :O |
| 03:21.38 | Gnarfoz | no, THAT one I know. |
| 03:21.50 | Gnarfoz | I gotta google "baby got back" :p |
| 03:22.04 | doom0r | ... |
| 03:22.10 | Gnarfoz | what? :p |
| 03:22.25 | Gnarfoz | oh, okay. now I know the title of that :P |
| 03:22.28 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41APzy5kqBU |
| 03:22.30 | Funkeh` | I spanked it too |
| 03:22.40 | ckknight | or even better, Gnarfoz, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkJdEFf_Qg4 |
| 03:22.42 | Funkeh` | um are we still talking aobut asses? |
| 03:22.49 | Gnarfoz | sure. whenever are we not? |
| 03:22.55 | ckknight | I do like the girls I date to have a good figure |
| 03:23.01 | ckknight | and I do like a nice ass ;-) |
| 03:23.14 | Funkeh` | ye but a nice ass isn't prio |
| 03:23.32 | Gnarfoz | I didn't know that was from '92 ;O |
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| 03:23.35 | ckknight | true, Funkeh` |
| 03:23.35 | doom0r | like hell it's not |
| 03:23.41 | ckknight | I like a nice face most of all, tbh |
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| 03:24.07 | Gnarfoz | you're gonna be lookin' at the face more often than the butt, right? :p |
| 03:24.13 | Funkeh` | indeed |
| 03:24.18 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:24.22 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 03:24.27 | ckknight | I end up in missionary position rather than doggy style more often anyway |
| 03:24.38 | doom0r | questionable nsfw, but really is |
| 03:24.39 | ckknight | I reach the G-spot easier |
| 03:24.39 | doom0r | http://www.crazyshit.com/site/pics/images/butt_081307.jpg |
| 03:24.40 | Funkeh` | nice face and a nice presonality behind it |
| 03:24.49 | Funkeh` | how I hate whiny/attention whores |
| 03:24.50 | ckknight | hehe, doom0r |
| 03:25.19 | ckknight | Funkeh`: the trick is to assert dominance |
| 03:25.26 | Aiiane | I'm only whiny and an attention whore when I intentionally want to annoy someone, Funkeh` :P |
| 03:25.50 | Funkeh` | if you're talking about your "moments" I udnerstand |
| 03:26.14 | Funkeh` | like I've been with girls that will sometimes be an attention whore to tease/or get something they want |
| 03:26.19 | Funkeh` | but I mean real attention whores |
| 03:26.23 | Funkeh` | that won't SHUT THE F UP |
| 03:26.48 | Funkeh` | They are quite popular at some clubs |
| 03:26.48 | Aiiane | hehe |
| 03:26.59 | doom0r | clubs...... |
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| 03:27.24 | doom0r | you couldn't get me into a club if i was the dj |
| 03:27.24 | Funkeh` | You get a nice convo going, and don't get me wrong, I'm an amazing listener, being brought up surrounded by 4 women and no males teaches you that, but sometimes |
| 03:27.41 | Funkeh` | they just want a respone to everything, and if you don't text them at least ocne a day... |
| 03:27.48 | ckknight | doom0r: females use clubs and loud music as a defense mechanism. |
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| 03:28.12 | ckknight | because they don't want a bunch of shitty losers telling them their name, because they just don't care |
| 03:28.33 | Arrowmaster | i wish there were actually clubs here |
| 03:28.43 | Funkeh` | lol once you've split up with the girl you think is the one you need a few one night stands to shake that shit off doom0r |
| 03:28.50 | doom0r | if you're chasing something in a place like that, you deserve all the bs you deal with |
| 03:29.11 | ckknight | don't be a nice guy and you won't get the bs |
| 03:29.14 | ckknight | (protip) |
| 03:29.21 | Aiiane | >.> |
| 03:29.22 | doom0r | Funkeh`: if i need that, i can just pick up a chick while in the mcdonalds drive thru or 7-11 |
| 03:29.34 | Funkeh` | id rather have a hot chick not a cow |
| 03:29.45 | Gnarfoz | doom0r: ;D |
| 03:29.51 | ckknight | Aiiane: what? nice guys make good husbands, not boyfriends. |
| 03:30.04 | Funkeh` | but after like 3 motnhs of crying you gotta get over it with something |
| 03:30.05 | Gnarfoz | you're confusing boyfriend with fuck buddy |
| 03:30.16 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: yea, I have trouble distinguishing |
| 03:30.27 | ckknight | (seriously) |
| 03:30.30 | Gnarfoz | I honestly don't know why "boyfriend" as a term even exists anymore |
| 03:30.39 | ckknight | I like "cohabitation partner" |
| 03:30.41 | ckknight | those are nice |
| 03:30.46 | ckknight | it's like a wife without the hassle |
| 03:30.47 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 03:30.47 | doom0r | sex doesn't interest me, so i have it easy |
| 03:30.52 | doom0r | i deal with very little bs ever |
| 03:30.58 | Funkeh` | lucky you |
| 03:30.59 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: ouch that's bad ;D |
| 03:31.05 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: what? |
| 03:31.06 | Funkeh` | but I'm somewhat in the same atitude at the moment |
| 03:31.10 | Aiiane | like a friend with benefits, except screw the friendship, ckknight? :P |
| 03:31.11 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: it's so dry ^^ |
| 03:31.15 | Funkeh` | Sticking out my studies without women |
| 03:31.23 | Gnarfoz | Aiiane: see xkcd, friends with detriments. ;D |
| 03:31.24 | ckknight | Aiiane: no, it's good to be friends with everyone |
| 03:31.24 | Funkeh` | they are the cause of all trouble! |
| 03:31.48 | doom0r | -21:32:21- [@ckknight]: Aiiane: no, it's good to be friends with everyone |
| 03:31.50 | doom0r | QFT |
| 03:31.55 | ckknight | Aiiane: I tend to fuck on the first date, though |
| 03:31.59 | doom0r | (quoted for truth) |
| 03:32.05 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 03:32.08 | ckknight | so you gotta try to become friends as fast as possible |
| 03:32.14 | Funkeh` | only ever once fucked on the first date |
| 03:32.14 | ckknight | so that it doesn't feel awkward |
| 03:32.18 | Funkeh` | because it wasn't really a first date |
| 03:32.22 | Funkeh` | more like a first meet |
| 03:32.22 | Aiiane | I, for one, will never call you subtle, ckk :P |
| 03:32.49 | ckknight | the trick is to move them to 3 locations total on the first date and amass 7 hours of "getting to know you" time |
| 03:32.51 | doom0r | he's not subtle, he's reserved |
| 03:32.55 | ckknight | then it's time for the bedroom |
| 03:33.01 | ckknight | and/or couch |
| 03:33.10 | doom0r | a reserved person handles themselves accordingly to the situation, when being blunt, they are simply blunt |
| 03:33.11 | Funkeh` | you sound like a pro |
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| 03:33.34 | ckknight | here's a tip for the masses: |
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| 03:33.54 | ckknight | you know how people say "oh, just be confident and you'll get the chicks", well it's true, but it's absolutely ludicrous |
| 03:34.00 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: he only makes it sound so easy. :P |
| 03:34.04 | ckknight | because how can you be confident without practice |
| 03:34.08 | ckknight | ? |
| 03:34.14 | doom0r | ego |
| 03:34.16 | ckknight | the trick is not to attain confidence, but rather competence. |
| 03:34.23 | Funkeh` | I think "maintain eye contact" is the best tip you can give |
| 03:34.30 | ckknight | once you are assured of your _competency_, then you can grow your confidence |
| 03:34.47 | ckknight | Funkeh`: no, the best tip is to keep throwing negs |
| 03:34.53 | ckknight | at least until stage C1 |
| 03:34.55 | doom0r | while true, you miss the real meaning ckknight |
| 03:34.56 | Funkeh` | what? |
| 03:35.14 | doom0r | it's really: "oh, just be egotistical and you'll get the chicks" |
| 03:35.21 | Funkeh` | no, trust me |
| 03:35.24 | ckknight | Funkeh`: for example, if they touch you, tell them "hands off the merchandise" and throw them off |
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| 03:35.39 | ckknight | in about 15 seconds, they will grab on again |
| 03:35.41 | Funkeh` | confidence, eye contact & fun |
| 03:35.44 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: competence btw? ^^ |
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| 03:36.00 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: just knowing how to react, don't be a spazz, don't ask shitty questions, etc. |
| 03:36.26 | Gnarfoz | no, I was nitpicking your spelling :P |
| 03:36.36 | ckknight | oh, my bad |
| 03:36.38 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 03:36.50 | Gnarfoz | just bored waiting for AH scan :p |
| 03:36.53 | Funkeh` | girl sees you're having fun then she will want to dance with you; confidence keeps you chatting but not over chatting; eye contact keeps the signals going; the run off of the SOI's |
| 03:36.56 | ckknight | Funkeh`: eye contact is important because it allows you to assert dominance of the situation, most importantly showing that you are in control of yourself, and thus her |
| 03:37.18 | ckknight | SOI? |
| 03:37.27 | Gnarfoz | ... of interest? |
| 03:37.30 | Gnarfoz | S... what |
| 03:37.32 | ckknight | I know IOI |
| 03:37.33 | Funkeh` | hand through hair; expanding hand on chair; etc |
| 03:37.35 | Gnarfoz | guessing is fun |
| 03:37.37 | ckknight | indication of interest |
| 03:37.37 | Funkeh` | signals of interest |
| 03:37.42 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 03:37.48 | ckknight | very true |
| 03:37.55 | ckknight | they don't even know they do the hair thing, too |
| 03:37.57 | ckknight | which is great |
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| 03:38.02 | Aiiane | v.v |
| 03:38.11 | Funkeh` | yeah |
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| 03:38.14 | Funkeh` | it's fun |
| 03:38.18 | Funkeh` | reading women like a book |
| 03:38.21 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 03:38.26 | ckknight | well, unless you're trying to pick up a hired gun (e.g. erotic dancer), at which point they do it intentionally |
| 03:38.35 | ckknight | those are hard |
| 03:38.46 | ckknight | you can't take any of their IOIs are being real |
| 03:39.03 | Funkeh` | no shit sherlock |
| 03:39.10 | ckknight | they're still attainable, though |
| 03:39.14 | Funkeh` | pass |
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| 03:39.29 | ckknight | yea, I'm pass for the most part, too, erotic dancers (at least here) tend to disgust me |
| 03:39.51 | ckknight | still, similar things apply if you're trying to pick up a waitress |
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| 03:40.13 | Funkeh` | haha |
| 03:40.16 | Funkeh` | I was so close to it once |
| 03:40.39 | Funkeh` | I would have if I wasn't accompanied by most of my friends at that restaurant |
| 03:40.43 | Funkeh` | we had a night planned |
| 03:41.13 | ckknight | I've kiss-closed with a waitress before, but still left her there and went out with friends |
| 03:41.20 | ckknight | got her number, we had a fun time later |
| 03:41.34 | Funkeh` | how tiesto - forever today still moves me <3 |
| 03:41.51 | Funkeh` | wasn't interested tbh |
| 03:42.05 | Funkeh` | at least I haven't been interested in women since my ex |
| 03:42.13 | Funkeh` | mainaly concentrating on studies and fun with friends |
| 03:42.25 | ckknight | I've engrossed myself in work lately :-P |
| 03:42.35 | Funkeh` | it sucks |
| 03:42.40 | ckknight | I enjoy my work |
| 03:42.56 | Arrowmaster | i just plain dont go out because theres no place around here i want to goto so i never meet anybody |
| 03:43.22 | Funkeh` | I know the feeling |
| 03:43.28 | Funkeh` | me going out means sleeping over at a friends |
| 03:43.30 | doom0r | don't feel bad Arrowmaster, i'm in chicago and it's like that |
| 03:43.33 | Funkeh` | since I can't drive |
| 03:43.40 | Arrowmaster | doom0r: ohio |
| 03:43.49 | doom0r | not even a decent god damn LUG anymore here |
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| 03:43.53 | Funkeh` | I tend to drive to my friends, go out, then drive back I the morning |
| 03:44.00 | Funkeh` | I live in a small town |
| 03:44.08 | Arrowmaster | same |
| 03:44.13 | ckknight | Funkeh`: ah |
| 03:44.23 | pakoz | roar |
| 03:44.39 | Arrowmaster | i have a 30minute drive just to get to college |
| 03:44.45 | ckknight | well, where I am there never seems to be anything to do, and I can't think of anything, so we tend to go back to my place, watch something, then head to the bedroom |
| 03:44.53 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 03:44.59 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster, same |
| 03:45.12 | Funkeh` | ckknight, lucky |
| 03:45.21 | digmouse | Funkeh`. same |
| 03:45.25 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: thats how it was with my last girlfriend |
| 03:45.42 | Arrowmaster | last/first |
| 03:45.47 | Arrowmaster | whatever |
| 03:45.51 | Arrowmaster | only |
| 03:45.51 | ckknight | :-P |
| 03:46.01 | Funkeh` | my last girlfriend lived in belgium so it involved somewhat more time |
| 03:46.07 | ckknight | don't sell yourself short |
| 03:46.36 | Funkeh` | about 3 thousand miles of time |
| 03:46.43 | ckknight | blah |
| 03:46.46 | Arrowmaster | meh we really didnt seem to belong together |
| 03:47.16 | Funkeh` | why? |
| 03:47.50 | ckknight | oh, I have a huge tip on how to build confidence, which works for me really well: when going on a date with a girl, have a date planned for another girl later in the week. That way there's no hassle. If you mess up somehow with this one, then there's always the other. Granted, because you're able to be less stressed, you're more confident and you mess up less. |
| 03:48.25 | Funkeh` | can't say I've ever tried that one |
| 03:48.27 | Gnarfoz | I'm not even mentally able to devalue them that much :O |
| 03:48.33 | Funkeh` | and don't think I will lol |
| 03:48.42 | Zhinjio | renames the channel to #wowace-sexchat-with-ckk |
| 03:48.54 | Gnarfoz | Zhinjio: approved |
| 03:48.56 | ckknight | hey, I'm not talking just sex |
| 03:49.07 | Funkeh` | we weren't really talking sex |
| 03:49.13 | Funkeh` | mainly gf's and distance lol |
| 03:49.16 | ckknight | though sex is an important way to bond in a relationship |
| 03:49.58 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: if you decide you like the first one so much that you'd rather skip the date with the second one, that's within your rights. |
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| 03:50.39 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: just saying. I seem to have a totally different mindset that pretty much also means I'll have a "GF" when one falls from the sky into my lap. :P |
| 03:50.52 | ckknight | I used to be like that |
| 03:51.00 | ckknight | it happened, too |
| 03:51.03 | Aiiane | not very nice to the girl though to just drop schedule like that |
| 03:51.22 | ckknight | Aiiane: yea, sometimes it is more courteous to just date two girls at the same time |
| 03:51.33 | ckknight | it depends on what rules you've set up |
| 03:51.39 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: yeah im more like you than ckknight |
| 03:51.46 | ckknight | as long as they know and are comfortable with polyamory, it's all good |
| 03:52.14 | Aiiane | i don't think i'd mind even just trying it once, and then deciding not to continue after that |
| 03:52.16 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: I mean, it is pretty obvious that "that is how it is these days", but even so... damn. :P |
| 03:52.22 | Aiiane | but at least if you set something up, try it out /once/ |
| 03:52.35 | ckknight | Aiiane: I'm not talking threesomes, you know |
| 03:52.39 | Aiiane | don't just say "meh, I'm not even going to waste my time with you" (even if thats not exactly how you word it) |
| 03:52.40 | ckknight | that's a separate issue entirely |
| 03:52.41 | Aiiane | I know |
| 03:52.43 | ckknight | okay |
| 03:52.53 | Aiiane | I just mean, you don't have to /continue/ dating both |
| 03:53.05 | Funkeh` | I'm not the kind of guy to do both |
| 03:53.12 | Aiiane | but at least do one date "for the honor of the queen" so to speak |
| 03:53.16 | ckknight | Aiiane: oh, yea, if I set a date for something, I'll follow through |
| 03:53.18 | Funkeh` | I wouldn't have got myself into that situation |
| 03:53.33 | Funkeh` | When I have a gf I'm pretty much a no look/flirt kind of guy |
| 03:53.46 | Funkeh` | gates closed so to say |
| 03:54.06 | *** join/#wowace sztanpet (n=sztanpet@142.58ec54.tvnetwork.hu) |
| 03:54.07 | ckknight | I'm that way if I have a cohabitation partner |
| 03:54.09 | ckknight | but that's different from dating |
| 03:54.17 | Funkeh` | thats the worst name ever |
| 03:54.25 | ckknight | got a better name for it? |
| 03:54.35 | Aiiane | i have a friend who dated a bisexual guy for a while |
| 03:54.57 | Aiiane | she said it was a little odd, but also a little amusing looking at some guy and murmuring "he looks hot" and having her boyfriend agree |
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| 03:55.04 | ckknight | Aiiane: hehe |
| 03:55.12 | Funkeh` | I'm used to that |
| 03:55.18 | Funkeh` | gay friends |
| 03:55.55 | Funkeh` | ever been to a gay club Aiiane ? |
| 03:56.00 | ckknight | I haven't had many gay friends, but I don't really care either way |
| 03:56.03 | Aiiane | can't say I have Funkeh` |
| 03:56.10 | ckknight | I have dated two bisexual girls recently |
| 03:56.13 | Aiiane | don't really have any huge aversion to it, just never took the time |
| 03:56.18 | Funkeh` | They are probably the best to be honest |
| 03:56.27 | Funkeh` | when you're with friends |
| 03:56.33 | Funkeh` | it is great fun |
| 03:57.02 | Funkeh` | I've been dragged along by the girls a few times thinking "the fuck am I going in there" |
| 03:57.09 | Funkeh` | but at the end of the day it was actually fun |
| 03:57.33 | Aiiane | maybe its just me, but bisexual guys don't seem to be nearly as either a) common or b) open about it |
| 03:57.52 | Funkeh` | I doubt there's many |
| 03:58.27 | Funkeh` | I think it's a matter of choose which you like, as some people see liking both as a "confused state" |
| 03:58.31 | Arrowmaster | where as men like to think all woman are bisexual and its just a matter of if they are open about it or not |
| 03:58.41 | Arrowmaster | we like to dream right |
| 03:58.45 | Funkeh` | yeah it's weird |
| 03:58.54 | Funkeh` | I don't know why I find that a turn on |
| 03:58.56 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: I don't see it that way |
| 03:59.06 | Funkeh` | no girl I know finds two guys going at it a turn on |
| 03:59.22 | ckknight | Funkeh`: I had a gf who wanted to see me going at it with a guy |
| 03:59.25 | ckknight | I was like, no. |
| 03:59.30 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 03:59.31 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 03:59.32 | ckknight | (I don't find guys attractive) |
| 03:59.48 | Funkeh` | lesbian friends are more fun |
| 03:59.59 | Funkeh` | you can get into a whole conversation wether a girl is hot or not |
| 04:00.03 | ckknight | hehe |
| 04:00.05 | Funkeh` | and they will critisize to much |
| 04:01.29 | Funkeh` | weird |
| 04:01.44 | Funkeh` | apparently the new CC uses ssl for login, so why isn't curse.com |
| 04:02.07 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 04:02.13 | Repo | 10broker-tradecooldowns: 03Zhinjio * r37 Locales/enUS.lua: - forgot locale entry for Guns |
| 04:02.16 | ckknight | we're gonna switch wowace and curseforge over to ssl soon, though |
| 04:02.21 | ckknight | for logins, at least |
| 04:02.23 | Funkeh` | cool |
| 04:02.27 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 04:02.32 | Funkeh` | yer |
| 04:02.33 | ckknight | logins and whenever you access /store/ |
| 04:02.39 | ckknight | I think |
| 04:02.55 | Funkeh` | more and more websites using ssl these days |
| 04:02.57 | Funkeh` | I lvoe it |
| 04:03.00 | ckknight | ...good |
| 04:03.00 | ckknight | :-P |
| 04:03.08 | Funkeh` | especially with all this impending doom liek swedens spy laws |
| 04:03.11 | ckknight | now if only firefox didn't barf on self-signing certs |
| 04:03.25 | ckknight | we're purchasing certs for wowace and curseforge |
| 04:03.30 | Aiiane | ckknight: brb, setting shipping address to the Curse office before I order dog poo :P |
| 04:03.32 | Funkeh` | if they ever bring spy laws to the UK.... |
| 04:03.48 | ckknight | Aiiane: lulz |
| 04:03.54 | ckknight | Funkeh`: it'll be just like 1984 |
| 04:04.51 | Funkeh` | encryption ftw |
| 04:04.59 | Funkeh` | got most of my bookmarks with SSL now |
| 04:05.32 | Funkeh` | and torrent sites giving ssl = win |
| 04:06.07 | Aiiane | speaking of which, ckknight, how is that whole reward points thing coming along |
| 04:06.14 | ckknight | I'm all done |
| 04:06.23 | ckknight | we're waiting for the curse client |
| 04:06.34 | Aiiane | so basically, beat kolie with sticks |
| 04:06.36 | ckknight | premium launches, then we start granting reward points |
| 04:06.39 | ckknight | basically. |
| 04:07.18 | Funkeh` | Hey I just realized something |
| 04:07.23 | Funkeh` | I haven't caughed for an hour |
| 04:07.25 | Funkeh` | woop |
| 04:07.36 | sacarasc | wills Funkeh` to cough |
| 04:07.38 | ckknight | woop |
| 04:07.55 | Funkeh` | yeah, cold + caugh attacks on christmas = win |
| 04:08.17 | Aiiane | what are caughs o.o |
| 04:08.25 | Funkeh` | slept most of it because thats the only wasy I could stop it! |
| 04:08.31 | Aiiane | coughing laughs? |
| 04:08.41 | Funkeh` | sorta |
| 04:08.55 | Funkeh` | more like feeling you're about to chocke your lungs out |
| 04:09.16 | Gnarfoz | Aiiane: beat Kaelten with sticks, it's his baby now ;) |
| 04:09.54 | Aiiane | thats not as much fun, kaelten just laughs :| |
| 04:10.42 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: btw, didn't the UK recently want to introduce all kinds of spy law shit? |
| 04:10.42 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 04:10.42 | twobits | http://www.cacert.org/ |
| 04:10.42 | Funkeh` | one of our ISP's has it |
| 04:10.42 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: I'm not keeping track anymore really, since my government went batshit insane |
| 04:10.43 | Funkeh` | but it's not enforced |
| 04:10.45 | Gnarfoz | twobits: worthless. |
| 04:10.47 | Funkeh` | and it's a shitty ISP |
| 04:10.59 | Funkeh` | they send you letters with warn ings saying torrents are bad mkay |
| 04:11.06 | Gnarfoz | twobits: it's not even trustworthy enough to make it into *the* open source browser :O |
| 04:11.25 | Funkeh` | luckily my ISP dosn't care |
| 04:11.31 | twobits | had more to do with politics then trust |
| 04:11.35 | Funkeh` | but still I'm using encrytion where I can |
| 04:11.38 | Aiiane | i did find it rather amusing when the UK isps blocked off a single page on wikipedia |
| 04:11.52 | Funkeh` | ? |
| 04:11.57 | Gnarfoz | scorpions cover |
| 04:12.00 | Gnarfoz | from 1972 or something, rofl |
| 04:12.04 | twobits | where the value is, is you can import one new root into y our browers and use it in more places then your self signed ones... |
| 04:12.10 | Aiiane | Funkeh`: http://www.bitterwallet.com/six-uk-isps-block-a-wikipedia-article-locking-out-wikipedia-edits/4194 |
| 04:12.10 | FtH|Daemona | tststs |
| 04:12.25 | Gnarfoz | FtH|Daemona: where the fuck did you come just now :P |
| 04:12.38 | FtH|Daemona | i just happened to tab |
| 04:12.40 | FtH|Daemona | ;) |
| 04:12.41 | Funkeh` | which features a naked prepubescent girl |
| 04:12.43 | Funkeh` | I see why |
| 04:12.45 | Funkeh` | ... |
| 04:12.54 | ckknight | she was asking for it |
| 04:12.57 | FtH|Daemona | good morning all |
| 04:12.58 | ckknight | look what she was wearing |
| 04:13.01 | Aiiane | ~lart ckknight |
| 04:13.01 | purl | judo chops ckknight |
| 04:13.12 | ckknight | hey FtH|Daemona |
| 04:13.48 | Aiiane | Funkeh`: what was more amusing was how they went about doing the block |
| 04:13.48 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: it's on our "list of shit that's not to be sold to below-18's and not to be advertised" for a reason. everything after the initial release had a different cover, too. |
| 04:13.52 | Aiiane | and thus all the trouble it caused |
| 04:14.12 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: someone could have just edited the cover to show the 2nd release one and be done with it... :X |
| 04:14.21 | Funkeh` | Aiiane, The UK isn't all that great with he Internet :p |
| 04:14.27 | Funkeh` | the* |
| 04:14.42 | Gnarfoz | funny how we have this list at all... |
| 04:15.38 | Funkeh` | Aiiane, I can view the page |
| 04:15.49 | Aiiane | Funkeh`: it's only specific ISPs |
| 04:16.01 | Arrowmaster | they removed the block anyway i thought |
| 04:16.01 | Funkeh` | But I'm with the mainstream isp |
| 04:16.03 | Funkeh` | BT |
| 04:16.22 | Aiiane | read the article comments, Funkeh` |
| 04:16.30 | Funkeh` | it's 4am do I have to |
| 04:16.42 | FtH|Daemona | NSFW i can understand why they censored it ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Virgin_Killer.jpg |
| 04:16.57 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 04:17.00 | Funkeh` | thats pretty bad |
| 04:17.05 | Aiiane | Funkeh`: yes, and make your bed in the morning |
| 04:17.08 | Funkeh` | can't understand how that could have got released |
| 04:17.17 | Aiiane | because it was released 32 years ago? |
| 04:17.23 | Funkeh` | Aiiane, I only make my bed if it's for two >.> |
| 04:17.25 | FtH|Daemona | quote: "I have no idea who the model is, i think it was the daughter or niece of the photographer that designed the cover" |
| 04:17.25 | Arrowmaster | it was the 70s? |
| 04:17.27 | FtH|Daemona | W T F |
| 04:17.42 | sztanpet | hah |
| 04:17.45 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 04:17.50 | Aiiane | Funkeh`: mostly, im amused by the fact that they censored a *Single page* |
| 04:18.00 | doom0r | mmm, old scorps is pwnage |
| 04:18.02 | Aiiane | it's not as if you couldn't get exactly the same image from millions of different pages |
| 04:18.09 | Aiiane | not to mention google image search |
| 04:18.14 | Funkeh` | it's weird |
| 04:18.21 | Funkeh` | because the UK is very anti censorship |
| 04:18.32 | FtH|Daemona | simply the idea to put up a proxy to filter a single page |
| 04:18.44 | FtH|Daemona | ok, a bit naive, i bet they filter a lot more than that ;) |
| 04:19.13 | Aiiane | they filter more pages than that, yes, but it just demonstrates why per-URL filtering is borderline idiotic |
| 04:19.14 | Funkeh` | Im using opendns too |
| 04:19.17 | sztanpet | if i were on isp i wouldnt bother with setting up a filtering system |
| 04:19.17 | Funkeh` | so that might be it |
| 04:19.32 | ckknight | FtH|Daemona: it's "art" |
| 04:19.42 | Funkeh` | ckknight, that's what the pedofiles say |
| 04:19.50 | ckknight | paedophiles |
| 04:19.58 | Funkeh` | Gary Glitter: It's art :( |
| 04:21.52 | ckknight | Lewis Carroll liked to photograph nude and semi-nude girls |
| 04:22.03 | ckknight | including in one instance, his publisher's daughter |
| 04:22.04 | ckknight | :-P |
| 04:22.10 | ckknight | (he wrote Alice in Wonderland) |
| 04:22.23 | Funkeh` | virgin broadband can suck ym balls |
| 04:22.26 | Funkeh` | pile of shit |
| 04:22.41 | FtH|Daemona | interesting mixture of virgin and suck balls |
| 04:22.49 | ckknight | hehe |
| 04:24.04 | Funkeh` | ... |
| 04:24.56 | Funkeh` | I can sense the sexual tension in this chat room tonight |
| 04:25.03 | sztanpet | moar! |
| 04:25.39 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:25.48 | doom0r | that reminds me |
| 04:26.02 | doom0r | someone posted his ex's wow login/pw in /b last night |
| 04:26.06 | doom0r | ;x |
| 04:26.15 | Funkeh` | wtf is /b |
| 04:26.25 | Aiiane | 4chan |
| 04:26.36 | doom0r | ~fisker |
| 04:26.36 | purl | Fisker steal doom0r's cookies |
| 04:26.36 | ckknight | it's /b/ |
| 04:26.46 | ckknight | ~emulate fisker |
| 04:26.47 | purl | hmm... emulate fisker is "<reply> OH MY GOD I AM GOING TO CUM" |
| 04:26.47 | sztanpet | noes, its ebaumsworld |
| 04:26.47 | doom0r | meh, what's that freakin trigger |
| 04:26.55 | ckknight | ~emulate fisker- |
| 04:26.55 | purl | i heard emulate fisker- is DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB, and tries to convert more followers to his cause everyday. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END DISCLAIMER |
| 04:26.58 | Aiiane | the /b/ board, aka the cesspit of the internet |
| 04:27.01 | Funkeh` | sounds like a jerk tbh :D |
| 04:27.18 | ckknight | who's a jerk? |
| 04:27.28 | doom0r | not all of it is a cesspit |
| 04:27.29 | Funkeh` | the guy who posted he's ex's details |
| 04:27.35 | doom0r | just most :P |
| 04:29.16 | doom0r | 4chan has a nice wallpapers chan |
| 04:29.29 | Funkeh` | I wonder how long until we get torrent shares SSL encrypted |
| 04:29.38 | Funkeh` | and what kind of slowdown it would cause |
| 04:29.55 | Arrowmaster | some trackers already are |
| 04:30.01 | Funkeh` | anyone tried the new uTP by uT? |
| 04:30.33 | Funkeh` | at least that's what their calling their new UDP torrent file sahring |
| 04:31.08 | ckknight | why do the Japanese blur out all their penises? |
| 04:31.10 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster, yeah the trackers, but what about the actual sending of the data |
| 04:31.22 | Funkeh` | ckknight, good question |
| 04:31.36 | Arrowmaster | thats encrypted too, just not with ssl |
| 04:31.54 | Funkeh` | right, but I wonder how long until it is SSL |
| 04:31.56 | sztanpet | Funkeh` i tried it, its a lot better for latency |
| 04:32.03 | Arrowmaster | probably never |
| 04:32.06 | sztanpet | not a big difference otherwise |
| 04:32.13 | Arrowmaster | since ssl probably wouldnt be better |
| 04:32.15 | Funkeh` | well ISP's already broke uT's encryption once |
| 04:32.29 | Arrowmaster | ssl is broken too |
| 04:32.35 | Funkeh` | they only fixed it with 1.8's release |
| 04:32.44 | doom0r | ckknight: because of laws |
| 04:32.56 | ckknight | doom0r: damn laws |
| 04:33.02 | Wobin | ckknight: They don't. Japanese men and women are genetically adjusted so that their genital area exude an aura that literally pixellates the air around it. |
| 04:33.13 | Funkeh` | sztanpet, Have you tried it in a multi computer situation |
| 04:33.22 | ckknight | they're just scared that people will found out that they have 4" penises |
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| 04:33.22 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 04:33.28 | Funkeh` | it says it can maange the connection so it doesn't kill browsing and such |
| 04:33.37 | Funkeh` | but what about browsing on another pc on the same network |
| 04:33.47 | sztanpet | Funkeh` if you mean on my little lan with only another comp then yea, its a lot better |
| 04:33.56 | Funkeh` | cool |
| 04:34.09 | Funkeh` | so maybe it will mean the end of manual throttling |
| 04:34.52 | doom0r | just changing the packet size make everythign a world of better |
| 04:35.37 | Funkeh` | the cool thing is it connects to 1.8 clients |
| 04:35.52 | sztanpet | it falls back |
| 04:36.08 | sztanpet | just like the encryption if you allow it to |
| 04:38.03 | ckknight | hawt: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1230524781195.jpg |
| 04:38.10 | ckknight | protip: anything from /b/ is assumed nsfw |
| 04:39.13 | quiescens | protip: any url can be assumed nsfw until proven otherwise |
| 04:40.23 | Gnarfoz | doubly so for /b/ :p |
| 04:40.42 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: wtf bad photochop :p |
| 04:40.54 | doom0r | srsly, who fucking lets a pool cue get dirtied up by BLINDS, ffs |
| 04:40.59 | ckknight | either way |
| 04:41.11 | ckknight | so who else thought she was hot in Hard Candy? |
| 04:41.18 | sztanpet | http://88.151.103.8/aoi/images/5VFruAezx3dKfuY1.jpg |
| 04:41.20 | sztanpet | hah |
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| 04:42.00 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: didn't watch Hard Candy, but she was hot in Juno, anyway :p |
| 04:42.03 | doom0r | omfg, that's phenomenal |
| 04:42.12 | ckknight | Hard Candy is a great movie |
| 04:42.14 | ckknight | imo |
| 04:42.28 | ckknight | cause you don't know who to root for |
| 04:42.34 | doom0r | omg, yes Gnarfoz |
| 04:42.36 | doom0r | amazing |
| 04:42.44 | ckknight | the paedophile or the manipulative girl who tries to cut off his balls. |
| 04:44.24 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 04:44.34 | Gnarfoz | doom0r: huh? |
| 04:44.44 | doom0r | -22:42:57- [Gnarfoz]: ckknight: didn't watch Hard Candy, but she was hot in Juno, anyway :p |
| 04:44.49 | Gnarfoz | ah. |
| 04:44.57 | doom0r | great movie too |
| 04:45.03 | ckknight | she plays a 14-year-old in Hard Candy :-P |
| 04:45.06 | ckknight | when she was 20 or so |
| 04:45.16 | Gnarfoz | she plays a 16 year old in Juno, so still with the theme ;p |
| 04:48.43 | ckknight | yea |
| 04:50.26 | Funkeh` | anyway time for bed |
| 04:50.36 | Funkeh` | sweet dreams my sexually frustrated friends |
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| 04:57.06 | ckknight | who is JokeyRhyme? |
| 05:00.26 | doom0r | sounds like a leprechaun |
| 05:01.13 | Zhinjio | that 4chan url you gave above 404'd for me. |
| 05:01.27 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 05:01.41 | doom0r | it happens |
| 05:02.21 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 1e49f13 / (6 files in 5 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 05:02.25 | Repo | 1e49f13: add the ExperienceBar module |
| 05:02.27 | Repo | 57954c9: make the reputation bar show colors properly |
| 05:02.30 | Repo | d8cee02: make the status bar module type handle extra values properly |
| 05:02.49 | Arrowmaster | yeah /b/ moves fast |
| 05:03.03 | Arrowmaster | and when things move off they get deleted |
| 05:03.03 | Zhinjio | ah well. |
| 05:03.18 | Zhinjio | I'll survive. |
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| 05:10.40 | Jaxon | Anyone had issues with the Master Loot group menus being greyed out? |
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| 05:15.27 | Yssaril | i have a odd problem see http://i44.tinypic.com/12495yb.jpg if you look closely the topleft header and the top left cell seam slightly shifted also when you look at the right picture the cell background of the first header and cell are hidden one pixel earlier than the text. scrolling works fine for all other cells and headers. |
| 05:15.32 | Zhinjio | Can any of you confirm whether winter hats are still available from any mob in old world? |
| 05:15.45 | Yssaril | posting this here since wowuidev seams to be spam central atm :) |
| 05:16.17 | doom0r | Yssaril: you just missed epic OT ;x |
| 05:16.23 | Codayus | Zhinjio: I've heard it's a vanishingly rare drop of any mob from lvl 1 up, but cannot confirm. I can confirm that it's easy for 2 lvl 80s to duo the boss in Nexus to get a hat. (That may or may not help you.) |
| 05:16.31 | Jaxon | Zhinjio: they aren't. |
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| 05:18.16 | Arrowmaster | it used to depend on player level i think |
| 05:18.25 | Arrowmaster | lowbies were getting them from WC a lot |
| 05:18.48 | doom0r | wrath only now |
| 05:18.52 | digmouse | anyone know what this game is? http://qj4npw.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pCZCtU06rBy80HTVFWNZcVEsIGC0RBR7U8WKS4IEgU8P_qE39S6q_99E3OtRmp6YZInOpV-Odozg/VS.gif |
| 05:18.55 | doom0r | kind of, buy the xpac mf'r |
| 05:19.29 | Arrowmaster | digmouse: maybe a warhammer rts? |
| 05:19.39 | digmouse | I think so too |
| 05:19.44 | digmouse | but can not confirm |
| 05:19.49 | Aiiane | ditto |
| 05:19.54 | Aiiane | dawn of war or something |
| 05:20.03 | digmouse | k |
| 05:20.09 | Arrowmaster | good animations so it has to be realitivly recent |
| 05:20.33 | Groktar | http://www.theforum.com/photos/data/892/imac.jpg |
| 05:20.36 | digmouse | and should be a good RTS |
| 05:21.58 | digmouse | ckknight: is PitBull3 layout compatible in PB4? |
| 05:22.03 | ckknight | digmouse: no |
| 05:22.17 | ckknight | digmouse: but I doubt it'd take you more than a few minutes to reproduce |
| 05:22.48 | digmouse | I wont, seen the config window, it'll save lots of time |
| 05:22.51 | doom0r | Groktar: http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/06/10/itoilet_mod/ |
| 05:24.16 | ckknight | NSFW: http://www.efukt.com/2127_Deaf_Girl_Wants_To_Be_A_Pornstar.html |
| 05:24.25 | ckknight | that makes me sad |
| 05:33.48 | Groktar | curls up in ckknight's lap and goes to sleep |
| 05:34.49 | ckknight | pets Groktar |
| 05:34.54 | ckknight | I'll get you next time, Gadget! |
| 05:35.01 | doom0r | lol |
| 05:35.48 | doom0r | i wanted to be inspector gadget when i was a kid |
| 05:37.22 | Groktar | purrs softly |
| 05:37.53 | ckknight | I never imagined myself as the hero character |
| 05:37.56 | ckknight | I'm an antihero at best |
| 05:38.51 | sztanpet | goddamn i hate debuging c++ aplications |
| 05:39.06 | sztanpet | c is so clean in contrast |
| 05:39.09 | exor674 | get a better debuffer |
| 05:39.27 | sztanpet | meh, its fine, im just whining |
| 05:39.40 | Lysithea | glyph of sor is funny sometimes |
| 05:39.40 | Lysithea | 06:23:23> [Lysithea] died. |
| 05:39.41 | Lysithea | 06:24:38> [Lysithea's] Spirit of Redemption fades from [Lysithea]. |
| 05:40.19 | doom0r | wow |
| 05:40.51 | sacarasc | nice |
| 05:41.13 | Groktar | http://www.theforum.com/photos/data/892/ferengi.jpg <- i wish this were bigger so i could use it as wallpaper :( |
| 05:42.42 | Repo | 10critters: 03yssaril 07master * 1.0.5b-1-g2607a0d / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] try to fix the two companion being called at the same time bug |
| 05:43.24 | ckknight | Groktar: hehe |
| 05:43.31 | ckknight | they really are Jews in space |
| 05:44.49 | Groktar | ya |
| 05:44.56 | Groktar | i can't believe i never noticed it before |
| 05:44.58 | Repo | 10critters: 03yssaril 041.0.7b * 790bcb5 /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.0.7b |
| 05:45.13 | ckknight | Groktar: you can't? I've always known it |
| 05:45.45 | Groktar | well, considering the *group hug* theme of star trek |
| 05:46.24 | doom0r | the media industry has been controlled by jews for a many many many years |
| 05:46.34 | Codayus | Star Trek has never been known for its subetly. But yes, the Ferengi are a bit crude, even for them. |
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| 05:47.33 | Thrae | The Ferengi are more based off Gnomes then they are based off Jews. |
| 05:47.56 | Thrae | And I don't mean WoW's Gnomes, which are also based off Gnomes. |
| 05:48.23 | Repo | 10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm * r13 / (2 files in 1 directory): MorgBid2 |
| 05:48.27 | Repo | -added debug mode toggle |
| 05:48.28 | Repo | -changed function name |
| 05:48.58 | Yssaril | Hirsute: check out latest beta of critters i think i fixed it |
| 05:49.19 | Hirsute | Yssaril: Yay! Will do as soon as I can get in-game again. |
| 05:49.25 | ckknight | Thrae: I've always considered WoW's gnomes to be Jewish |
| 05:49.34 | ckknight | they're smart, good engineers, and have no home of their own. |
| 05:50.53 | Thrae | Honestly, the mythos they're based off predates Judiasm (mostly TSR / Warhammer, which eventually is traced back to mythos). |
| 05:51.09 | Thrae | Well, not predates, but the culture had no contact with them. |
| 05:51.50 | Thrae | ckknight: And I know you're trying to be anti-semetic there ;) |
| 05:51.58 | ckknight | I'm not, actually |
| 05:52.06 | ckknight | the Jews are a strong, resilient people that we should learn from |
| 05:52.12 | Thrae | What about Israel? |
| 05:52.20 | ckknight | those aren't Jews |
| 05:52.32 | ckknight | Jews by their very nature cannot have land |
| 05:52.41 | ckknight | in any event, I'm unapologetically pro-Israel |
| 05:52.54 | Thrae | "By their very nature"? |
| 05:53.46 | ckknight | Hebrew means wanderer |
| 05:53.55 | ckknight | you can't wander and have a home :-P |
| 05:54.23 | Thrae | Well, maybe traditional/conservatist Judiasm, but not modern. |
| 05:54.50 | ckknight | don't confuse the religion and the people |
| 05:55.07 | Zhinjio | I"m thankful we have you literal interpretation to use as fact. |
| 05:55.13 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 05:55.18 | ckknight | ? |
| 05:55.50 | ckknight | in any event, this is semantics |
| 05:56.04 | ckknight | by Jewish people, I refer to the Ashkenazi |
| 05:56.10 | ckknight | regardless of religion |
| 05:56.25 | Thrae | Right, you need to be more specific if you're going to talk like that. |
| 05:56.28 | Hirsute | I thought it was semitics... |
| 05:56.35 | ckknight | lol, Hirsute |
| 05:56.41 | Codayus | Thrae: Meh, it's ckknight. Why would he start now? |
| 05:56.44 | Hirsute | *grin* |
| 05:56.44 | ckknight | Thrae: are you Jewish? (jw) |
| 05:57.31 | Thrae | I don't know. |
| 05:57.36 | ckknight | okay then |
| 05:58.11 | Thrae | Religiously, I'm mostly Buddhist I suppose, but from the "Jewish people" probably not. But I can't be sure. |
| 05:58.38 | ckknight | it's hard to trace back, really |
| 05:58.56 | ckknight | and in any event, the Ashkenazi aren't even the same Jews as in Torah |
| 05:59.10 | Thrae | I do have blond hair (dark blonde) and blue eyes, so that probably weakens the idea that I have a little "Jewish" blood in me. |
| 05:59.41 | ckknight | hehe |
| 05:59.46 | ckknight | I have a brother who looks very Jewish |
| 05:59.54 | ckknight | hooked nose |
| 05:59.57 | ckknight | black hair |
| 06:00.03 | ckknight | we're not Jewish, though |
| 06:00.12 | ckknight | mostly English/Scottish with some German |
| 06:00.55 | ckknight | my other brother married a Jewish girl a few months back |
| 06:01.00 | Thrae | In fact, my original last name is German / Eastren European, but I believe that root traces back to Poland and not Germany, so I'm O.K. when in regards to "white guilt". |
| 06:02.31 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:03.15 | ckknight | technically my German ancestry is Prussian, but that land is now part of Poland |
| 06:03.19 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 06:03.38 | ckknight | that's only like 1/8 of my heritage, though |
| 06:03.56 | ckknight | I'm basically Anglo-Saxon for all intents and purposes |
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| 06:05.34 | Repo | MorgDKP2 |
| 06:05.37 | Repo | -fixed emblem ignore/added abyss crystal |
| 06:05.40 | Repo | -fixed scrollframe to top after delete on raidtracker |
| 06:05.43 | Repo | -fix new event editbox nil error |
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| 06:07.05 | sztanpet | pics! |
| 06:07.10 | sztanpet | about the wedding |
| 06:07.23 | sztanpet | or anything else youd like to show |
| 06:10.23 | ckknight | lemme see if I can dig em up |
| 06:16.35 | ckknight | sztanpet: http://i42.tinypic.com/2pttrbo.jpg |
| 06:17.09 | ckknight | when we trespassed on a Presbetarian church's grounds because it was a good photo op |
| 06:17.34 | sztanpet | aw |
| 06:17.35 | sztanpet | MOAR |
| 06:17.52 | ckknight | why? |
| 06:18.07 | sztanpet | dunno, bored |
| 06:18.33 | ckknight | sadly, I was unable to hook up with any of the bridesmaids at that wedding |
| 06:18.46 | ckknight | they were all spoken for in one form or fashion |
| 06:21.36 | ckknight | *sigh* |
| 06:21.42 | ckknight | these pics make me realize I need to fix my teeth |
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| 06:38.19 | doom0r | http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1230451764990gp5.png that pic makes me realize i hate life |
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| 06:50.28 | Bruners | doom0r: why? |
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| 07:00.09 | pakoz | can anyone help me make a macro to turn in sunfury signets? i need to turn in 600 of them. I know part of it cannot be done via macro, but i think most of it can |
| 07:00.42 | doom0r | just get a turn in mod that's already written? |
| 07:01.01 | Xinhuan | wtb 980 more dreadfang venom sacs |
| 07:01.15 | doom0r | figures |
| 07:01.17 | doom0r | whore |
| 07:01.50 | Xinhuan | i see no link between venom sacs and whores :p |
| 07:01.58 | doom0r | i do, you! |
| 07:02.05 | Xinhuan | :( |
| 07:02.17 | doom0r | rep whore ftw :) |
| 07:02.22 | pakoz | doom0r, got a name? |
| 07:02.30 | pakoz | for the mod |
| 07:02.41 | sztanpet | that little white stripe, whats it called |
| 07:02.44 | sztanpet | oh yea search box |
| 07:02.50 | pakoz | im lookin |
| 07:02.51 | pakoz | no luck |
| 07:03.05 | doom0r | easydaily, repeatablequesthelper, sickofclickingdailies (dunno if his does it) |
| 07:03.24 | pakoz | thx much |
| 07:03.25 | doom0r | i was using the second, now i use the former |
| 07:03.40 | doom0r | never tried the last yet |
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| 07:10.53 | doom0r | sighs |
| 07:11.06 | doom0r | my neighbors just have to be moaning the minute i walk in from having a smoke |
| 07:11.21 | Xinhuan | whores |
| 07:12.04 | pakoz | thx doom0r |
| 07:14.12 | ckknight | doom0r: she seems young |
| 07:14.19 | ckknight | (the pic you linked) |
| 07:16.29 | sztanpet | nice eyes tho |
| 07:17.26 | doom0r | pretty sure she is |
| 07:17.32 | doom0r | quite beautiful though |
| 07:17.34 | doom0r | eyes are amazing |
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| 07:25.05 | Arrowmaster | hot |
| 07:25.47 | Aiiane | eyes look like they have contacts in them |
| 07:26.57 | Stanzilla | http://i42.tinypic.com/2sayn3c.jpg < name that addon (could be very old, sshot is from a Kaelthas first kill video) |
| 07:27.30 | Arrowmaster | random bar mod with random skin mod |
| 07:27.54 | Stanzilla | do you think its just some bars with buttons placed so they form a circle? |
| 07:27.59 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 07:28.10 | Stanzilla | k so I |
| 07:28.17 | Arrowmaster | at that time its likely trinity with cycircled |
| 07:28.17 | Stanzilla | have to find the cycircled skin |
| 07:28.22 | Stanzilla | yeah |
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| 07:28.35 | Aiiane | or just some random sphere-type mod |
| 07:32.19 | Stanzilla | yeah...the interface has 2 such circles that would be a shitton of single bars |
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| 07:34.47 | Arrowmaster | well the reason i said trinity was i thought at the time it allowed you to do stuff like that, have single buttons not on a bar |
| 07:35.04 | Stanzilla | oh, mkay |
| 07:38.37 | digmouse | Arrowmaster: that cant be trinity |
| 07:39.06 | digmouse | trinity can do it in circle but unable to form such a small circle |
| 07:39.20 | Stanzilla | the skin is from trinity |
| 07:39.21 | Stanzilla | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw13636.jpg |
| 07:39.27 | Stanzilla | 3rd from the bottom |
| 07:39.55 | digmouse | no, buttonfacade or cycircled |
| 07:40.40 | Stanzilla | has to be cycircled because that video is oooold |
| 07:40.41 | digmouse | trinity does not come with skins itself |
| 07:40.46 | digmouse | agree |
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| 07:41.21 | Stanzilla | trinity had a skin package I think |
| 07:41.30 | Stanzilla | that was later "ported" to buttonfacade |
| 07:42.02 | Xinhuan | Ackis |
| 07:42.49 | Xinhuan | pokes Ackis in the ribs |
| 07:43.23 | Zhinjio | He is almost certainly very asleep |
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| 07:43.37 | Zhinjio | How're you, Xinhuan? |
| 07:43.53 | Xinhuan | wanted to poke him about why ARL lists the JC vendor in Dalaran as being in Ironforge :p |
| 07:44.20 | Zhinjio | although I'm not certain, you might want to poke wowdb |
| 07:45.20 | Xinhuan | coords are totally wrong too ;p |
| 07:45.36 | Repo | 10pokedex: 03stencil * r15 / (4 files in 1 directory): v1.0 Release |
| 07:45.38 | Repo | Finished mount overhaul. Ready for broader use. |
| 07:45.48 | Repo | 10pokedex: 03stencil 04v1.0 Release * r16 : Tagging as v1.0 Release |
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| 07:53.42 | Xinhuan | lol Zhinjio |
| 07:53.43 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowdb.com/npc.aspx?id=28721 |
| 07:53.45 | Xinhuan | check that |
| 07:53.49 | Xinhuan | and look at the dalaran map |
| 07:55.15 | Xinhuan | i bet wowdb records the location when PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED == the mob |
| 07:55.20 | Xinhuan | and people /tar the mob to find it |
| 07:55.29 | Zhinjio | does that vendor wander? |
| 07:55.34 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 07:55.36 | Xinhuan | its in a fixed location |
| 07:55.37 | Zhinjio | ha |
| 07:55.38 | Zhinjio | nice |
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| 07:57.44 | Zhinjio | nice |
| 07:57.51 | Zhinjio | thats some quality data gathering |
| 08:02.09 | Codayus | Ouch, that's...yeah... |
| 08:02.15 | Codayus | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=28721 |
| 08:02.17 | Codayus | Compare. |
| 08:03.56 | ckknight | yea |
| 08:03.58 | ckknight | ...my bad |
| 08:03.59 | Zhinjio | I need no proof of its superiority. heh |
| 08:04.07 | Zhinjio | your bad? |
| 08:04.11 | ckknight | yea |
| 08:04.14 | ckknight | I wrote the Curse Profiler |
| 08:04.53 | ckknight | granted, now that we have the unofficial policy of "Don't care about WoWDB", I haven't been bothered to fix it |
| 08:05.23 | Codayus | Heh |
| 08:05.30 | Zhinjio | does Ackis know about that policy? |
| 08:05.49 | Xinhuan | am i correct ckknight |
| 08:05.54 | Xinhuan | in guessing how the location recording works ;p |
| 08:05.58 | ckknight | he's slowly coming to realize that, Zhinjio |
| 08:06.03 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yea, you can check the code |
| 08:06.07 | Xinhuan | how come its recording |
| 08:06.11 | Xinhuan | the guy in IF/Org as well? |
| 08:06.18 | ckknight | Xinhuan: don't know how that data got in. |
| 08:06.20 | Codayus | Portals, I'd guess. |
| 08:06.21 | Xinhuan | it only exists in dalaran |
| 08:06.32 | Codayus | Hmm, or not, actually. |
| 08:06.36 | ckknight | it's not just PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED, though |
| 08:06.51 | ckknight | it's also if you mouse over the guy |
| 08:06.53 | ckknight | and other stuff |
| 08:06.55 | ckknight | shurgs |
| 08:06.59 | ckknight | shrugs* |
| 08:07.05 | ckknight | I just copied the way the old cgProfiler did it |
| 08:07.42 | Codayus | Hm, the point in IF and Org are in exactly the same location. |
| 08:08.00 | ckknight | Codayus: my guess is that's a bug in the checking of the current location, then |
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| 08:08.58 | Codayus | Heh, on a related note - check out: http://www.wowdb.com/npc.aspx?id=24208 |
| 08:09.18 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 08:09.38 | Xinhuan | nice bug |
| 08:10.12 | ckknight | oh, I bet that happens if you're zoomed out or something |
| 08:10.18 | ckknight | yea, I could fix that |
| 08:10.25 | ckknight | I'd rather do other things, though |
| 08:11.12 | ckknight | like localization system for wowace ;-) |
| 08:11.12 | ckknight | and such |
| 08:11.37 | Xinhuan | can you elaborate a bit how the localization system will work |
| 08:12.14 | ckknight | I'm planning on stealing the way that launchpad works |
| 08:12.17 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 08:12.25 | Xinhuan | never heard of launchpad ;p |
| 08:12.30 | Xinhuan | try again hehe |
| 08:12.31 | ckknight | it's a Canonical thing |
| 08:12.37 | ckknight | same people who make Ubuntu |
| 08:12.52 | Codayus | Cool |
| 08:12.59 | ckknight | but the idea is that you, as a developer, put in a whole bunch of English keys and their values (sometimes key = value) |
| 08:13.10 | ckknight | and random schmucks with funny accents put in their translations |
| 08:13.22 | Xinhuan | all web based? |
| 08:13.37 | ckknight | and you push a button, some settings, and you have a lua file or a yaml file or an AceLocale-3.0 file or whatever |
| 08:13.38 | ckknight | yea, Xinhuan |
| 08:13.52 | ckknight | the idea is that translators should stay the fuck away from the repos |
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| 08:14.18 | Codayus | Mmm, a goal worth striving for indeed... |
| 08:14.23 | ckknight | the localization system is already in place, btw |
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| 08:14.29 | ckknight | I need to fix some bugs in it |
| 08:14.41 | ckknight | and I want to make the UI better (that's what I'm stealing from launchpad) |
| 08:14.50 | ckknight | and I want to be able to import existing localizations |
| 08:15.07 | ckknight | also, I want to add namespacing, since I think that's very useful in some cases |
| 08:16.01 | ckknight | but I'll be hacking on it probably all of tomorrow (well, today, actually), maybe the day after |
| 08:17.51 | Xinhuan | does that mean we have separate zip files for each locale? |
| 08:18.34 | ckknight | no |
| 08:18.42 | ckknight | that was never on the books |
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| 08:19.07 | ckknight | probably won't be for a long time |
| 08:19.25 | Xinhuan | ok, keep it that way ;p |
| 08:19.26 | Arrowmaster | if ever |
| 08:19.37 | Xinhuan | i currently just use the wowace generated zips on wowi |
| 08:19.45 | Xinhuan | i don't really want to make special zips ;p |
| 08:20.18 | Xinhuan | that way, the versions on both sites are identical since its the same zip |
| 08:20.40 | ckknight | the localization app will be just an optional tool for you to use, much like the .pkgmeta niceties or the automatic documenter or the ticket system |
| 08:20.53 | ckknight | it's not going to fundamentally change things unless you want to use it |
| 08:22.01 | Xinhuan | wts 850 large brilliant shards |
| 08:22.05 | Xinhuan | from faming baron mount lol |
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| 08:25.19 | sacarasc | hah |
| 08:25.37 | sacarasc | flood the market and sell them all for a gold each |
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| 08:30.14 | Xinhuan | it is already 90s on AH |
| 08:32.08 | sacarasc | damn |
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| 08:42.32 | Synthetic | hey everyone |
| 08:42.57 | Synthetic | just curious, is it possible to have 2 different ui's on the same computer? |
| 08:43.08 | Synthetic | say one for pvp one for pve |
| 08:43.42 | Synthetic | Maybe have all my pvp addons in a seperate folder so wow picks it up as an addon :S something like spartan ui |
| 08:44.12 | Zhinjio | Synthetic: two options: |
| 08:44.30 | Zhinjio | 1) have a separate WTF and Interface folder that youc opy in and out |
| 08:44.44 | Zhinjio | which is pretty hax0r and certainly can't be changed on the fly |
| 08:45.01 | Zhinjio | 2) use the "Profiles" feature that most addons ahve to make a PVP and PVE UI config |
| 08:45.15 | Synthetic | i mean to enable and disable addons |
| 08:45.18 | Zhinjio | that would let you change on the fly, but would probably still require a reload in between to get everything to stick |
| 08:45.30 | Synthetic | eg. afflcted |
| 08:45.42 | Zhinjio | not that I'ma ware of |
| 08:45.45 | Synthetic | Oh i know what ill do |
| 08:45.57 | Zhinjio | there may be some addonloader type addons that can do that, but I don't know |
| 08:45.59 | Synthetic | Ill just have to interface and wtf folders |
| 08:46.07 | Synthetic | and rename them when i want to use em |
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| 08:46.41 | digmouse | but you'll have to login and out |
| 08:46.51 | Xinhuan | you can also have 2 copies of wow |
| 08:46.51 | digmouse | I mean quit the game completely |
| 08:46.52 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 08:46.58 | digmouse | agree :D |
| 08:47.14 | Synthetic | :D hehe i understand |
| 08:47.30 | Synthetic | well exiting renaming and re entering easier |
| 08:47.37 | Synthetic | seems easier*** |
| 08:48.04 | digmouse | but 2 copies of wow even easier |
| 08:48.29 | Synthetic | hmmm |
| 08:48.41 | Synthetic | more space req, but i could run it from my meroy disc |
| 08:48.45 | Arrowmaster | if you just want to have some addons enabled for just pvp and some enabled just for pve look at ACP |
| 08:48.46 | digmouse | another 11GB is not that hard |
| 08:49.03 | Synthetic | ACP? |
| 08:49.09 | Arrowmaster | @project acp |
| 08:49.10 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/acp/. Addon Control Panel. Game: WoW. sylvanaar (Manager/Author). Updated: 20 days ago. Tickets: 4/5 |
| 08:49.13 | digmouse | Addon Control Panel |
| 08:49.19 | Synthetic | merci :) |
| 08:49.30 | Synthetic | thats exactlly what im looking for |
| 08:51.50 | Synthetic | random question while everyone is being so helpful |
| 08:52.09 | Synthetic | google chrome doesnt save cookies? |
| 08:53.30 | Synthetic | everytime you reneter a previouslly visited site it re-downloads images ect? |
| 08:55.06 | sztanpet | does for me |
| 08:55.16 | exor674 | do you have privacy mode on? |
| 08:56.00 | Synthetic | ahh :S |
| 08:56.03 | Synthetic | checking |
| 08:56.32 | Synthetic | where can i see if i have? |
| 08:57.41 | Synthetic | because its really annoying when you have to re-download hd movies on youtube everytime you re visit |
| 09:01.13 | Repo | 10wowace-cheaptard: 03Zarnivoop * r31 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fix silly embeds.xml error |
| 09:11.00 | Synthetic | anyone? |
| 09:11.18 | Synthetic | how can i change this i dont want to have to go back to firefox |
| 09:16.55 | haste | I have to re-download movies on youtube everythime I visit with firefox |
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| 09:18.38 | Synthetic | oh |
| 09:18.43 | Synthetic | okay thanks |
| 09:19.19 | Synthetic | google chrome doessnt seem to save anything |
| 09:19.33 | Repo | 10raidlog: 03jrray 07master * a7de40b / (5 files in 1 directory): [new, +14 commits] (10 truncated) |
| 09:19.36 | Repo | a7de40b: Bring in LibRockConfig-1.0, empty config for now. |
| 09:19.39 | Repo | b80e7ac: .pkgmeta file for wowace. |
| 09:19.42 | Repo | 8bbaa94: Remove Rosterlib (Ace2). |
| 09:19.44 | Repo | 5c23d01: Do own loot message handling since SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0 is stuck in Ace2 |
| 09:21.32 | Synthetic | if anyone knows how to beat this let me know |
| 09:26.10 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky * r7 GnomishYellowPages.lua: GnomishYellowPages: |
| 09:26.12 | Repo | -added data pulling from guild craft |
| 09:27.39 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky 04r7beta * r8 : Tagging as r7beta |
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| 09:29.24 | Synthetic | found this |
| 09:29.25 | Synthetic | http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/video_cache_view.html |
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| 09:42.34 | mitch0 | didum |
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| 09:45.04 | EthanCentaurai | lua> ("Offline"):gsub("I am now %1") |
| 09:45.05 | lua_bot | EthanCentaurai: luabot:1: bad argument #2 to 'gsub' (string/function/table expected) |
| 09:45.23 | EthanCentaurai | O.o |
| 09:45.31 | ckknight | use :format |
| 09:45.40 | ckknight | and reverse params |
| 09:46.38 | mitch0 | ls |
| 09:47.21 | EthanCentaurai | I want to check for [Oo]ffline and colour it red... I don't think :format is what I need |
| 09:47.50 | EthanCentaurai | I was gonna use %1 or whatever it is so original case is left unchanged |
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| 09:48.16 | EthanCentaurai | laziness ftw |
| 09:49.06 | mitch0 | is X-Donate processed by anything (in .toc) |
| 09:49.08 | mitch0 | ? |
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| 09:53.56 | orionshock | don't think so |
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| 10:31.57 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/guildwork/. GuildWork. Tlor101 (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
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| 11:10.41 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r82 modules/weaponprocs.lua: Added Polearm procs. |
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| 11:21.17 | mitch0 | hm. I need better marketing. a lot of peeps are using inferior range addons than mine :) |
| 11:23.01 | ant1pathy | how accurate is yours |
| 11:23.17 | mitch0 | best you can get :) |
| 11:23.26 | ant1pathy | not a real answer ;) |
| 11:23.47 | mitch0 | well, 5yd accuracy up to about 45yds, then it gets a bit worse |
| 11:24.08 | ant1pathy | ./scoff |
| 11:24.12 | mitch0 | (in some cases it's less then 5yd, depending on talents etc) |
| 11:25.00 | mitch0 | can't do better for enemy targets to the best of my knowledge |
| 11:25.34 | mitch0 | in any case, the "others" do even worse :) (and sometimes with messed up .lua, too) |
| 11:26.26 | mitch0 | oh well *shrug* |
| 11:26.59 | thul | what is a range addon good for? |
| 11:27.24 | mitch0 | telling you how far you are from your target |
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| 12:04.54 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r1839 / (11 files in 7 directories): - Added Venture Bay to the PvP rewards |
| 12:04.57 | Repo | - Changed "Lake Wintergrasp" to "Wintergrasp" |
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| 12:20.08 | Repo | 10prat_signon: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.2-1-g033fa69 Core.lua: [+1 commit] Add option to change the colour of the keywords "logged on", "logged off", "online, and "offline". Case insensitive. |
| 12:22.49 | EthanCentaurai | has broken the website again. |
| 12:24.34 | thul | fetches the spreaderbar, the tabasco based lube and the big buttplug. |
| 12:25.28 | EthanCentaurai | er... why? o.O |
| 12:25.55 | Megalon | those sound like the tools for hours of fun |
| 12:29.42 | Repo | 10critmiester: 03Xocide * r8 / (4 files in 1 directory): Fixed up the TOC and core file names. |
| 12:32.33 | Gnarfoz | wtf @ fail pseudo german spelling |
| 12:32.37 | Gnarfoz | @project critmiester |
| 12:32.38 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/critmiester/. Critmeister. Game: WoW. Xocide (Manager/Author). Updated: 2 minutes ago |
| 12:34.28 | thul | i want 11k rune strikes. |
| 12:34.49 | Gnarfoz | play a DK |
| 12:38.49 | Megalon | but getting 11000 takes some time |
| 12:39.22 | thul | I'm playing a dk, and I'm at lvl 76, but all I get is 7500-7800 ones :-( |
| 12:39.26 | thul | I NEED MOAR DAMAGE |
| 12:40.39 | Megalon | oh, well, then it's just because you suck |
| 12:40.47 | Megalon | :( |
| 12:41.49 | thul | :-( |
| 12:41.53 | thul | but I DO NOT SWALLOW! |
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| 12:44.42 | Megalon | dare you, spitter! |
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| 12:49.47 | thul | http://fc56.deviantart.com/fs38/f/2008/363/e/4/e4cc67000bf1b7f19cbbc72ec69da0c9.jpg <- that is ok (nsfw) |
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| 12:51.42 | Gnarfoz | too skinny, next |
| 12:52.02 | Gnarfoz | I can see her freaking hipbones :P |
| 12:52.45 | thul | haha |
| 12:52.47 | thul | http://pedroinacio.deviantart.com/art/Nebulae-II-107634022 <- net |
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| 13:15.56 | Repo | 10statlogiclib: 037destiny * r222 StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: - koKR Update |
| 13:16.14 | digmouse | ckknight: PitBull4 not localized yet? |
| 13:16.51 | KriLL3 | digmouse: I'm guessing he cares more about making it functional than making a russian version |
| 13:17.06 | digmouse | just a hunch :D |
| 13:18.04 | Repo | 10rating-buster: 037destiny * r195 RatingBuster-Locale-koKR.lua: - koKR Update |
| 13:25.12 | SunTsu | Looks like forum search is broken: "This reCAPTCHA key isn't authorized for the given domain. More info" |
| 13:26.12 | Repo | 10wintergraspfu: 03-Adron- 041.0-release * r13 : |
| 13:26.14 | Repo | 1.0 released, seems to work stable with english versions of the game. |
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| 13:49.55 | Repo | 10critmiester: 03Xocide * r9 / (6 files in 2 directories): Data Broker support. |
| 13:49.58 | Repo | Minimap Button. |
| 13:50.00 | Repo | Screen Effects. |
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| 14:00.29 | Repo | 10critmiester: 03Xocide 040.2.0 * r10 : Tagging as 0.2.0 |
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| 14:13.48 | Repo | 10critmiester: 03Xocide 070.2 * r11 : Branching as 0.2 |
| 14:16.32 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r83 / (2 files in 2 directories): Removed some unused code. |
| 14:18.28 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide 071.2 * r84 : Branching as 1.2 |
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| 14:29.06 | ckknight | digmouse: wanted to wait for the localization app on wowace |
| 14:29.41 | digmouse | you just go ahead on its functions, I'll handle the locales :D |
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| 15:16.24 | ckknight | hey all |
| 15:16.26 | ckknight | how's life? |
| 15:17.17 | Jygga | awkward |
| 15:17.34 | Jygga | there is some frosty sphere floating around above ground in storm peaks |
| 15:17.58 | Jygga | is that some engi farmable cloud stuff? |
| 15:20.17 | Wobin | I believe it's the Northrend equiv of the gas clouds, yes |
| 15:21.06 | SunTsu | Jygga: Sounds like it, yes |
| 15:21.31 | Jygga | hmkay, looks pretty |
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| 15:41.41 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r4878 Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: BigWigs: Naxxramas/Thaddius: |
| 15:41.44 | Repo | - Finalizing fixed some triggers(issue throw :p) |
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| 15:43.48 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r85 / (4 files in 2 directories): Split the Options array from the core file. |
| 15:43.51 | Repo | Added Proc Cooldowns Frame/Bars customization features. |
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| 15:49.40 | steev | so, I am using Chinchilla, and I can't seem to get the calendar icon to show up on my minimap - It is enabled, and show on minimap is checked as well - I even tried unchecking attach to minimap and dragging the slider around to get it to show up somewhere randomly on the screen (although it may be an older version of chinchilla, i haven't updated my addons in a while) |
| 15:49.56 | steev | is this a known issue/fixed issue, or does anyone know how i can track it down? |
| 15:50.12 | ckknight | step 1 |
| 15:50.18 | ckknight | verify that you're using the latest vesion |
| 15:50.20 | ckknight | version* |
| 15:51.18 | Laric | who is it that makes sexymap? |
| 15:51.39 | Bruners | @project sexymap |
| 15:51.40 | Repo | Bruners: http://www.wowace.com/projects/sexymap/. SexyMap. Game: WoW. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Updated: 15 days ago. Tickets: 12/16 |
| 15:51.51 | Laric | nice |
| 15:58.08 | vhaarr | ckknight: someone deleted my project and the reason they gave was "no longer needed", but in the mail it doesn't say *who* deleted it |
| 15:58.16 | ckknight | link me |
| 15:58.23 | vhaarr | http://www.wowace.com/projects/big-wigs_tbc/ |
| 15:58.38 | ckknight | that was Funkeh` |
| 15:58.46 | ckknight | he made a whole bunch of big wigs addons yesterday |
| 15:58.50 | ckknight | separating each one |
| 15:58.53 | vhaarr | aha |
| 15:59.19 | vhaarr | ckknight: but perhaps you should add that to the mail template |
| 15:59.25 | vhaarr | who deleted the project, I mean |
| 15:59.34 | ckknight | yea, maybe |
| 15:59.54 | vhaarr | and it also keeps marking my projects as abandoned |
| 16:00.07 | vhaarr | yesterday it marked 14 projects |
| 16:00.11 | vhaarr | very annoying |
| 16:00.36 | ckknight | because they have no 3.0 release versions. |
| 16:00.43 | vhaarr | ye but I don't care, see |
| 16:00.48 | vhaarr | they work, so I don't touch them |
| 16:00.58 | Fisker- | But wowace does, see |
| 16:01.19 | vhaarr | yes now it does, but it didn't use to before the curseforge merge |
| 16:01.22 | Fisker- | appending "see" to every sentence you write is nice, see |
| 16:01.39 | ckknight | we're going to add more statuses to project for different levels of abandonment/maturity, see |
| 16:01.42 | vhaarr | I actually prepended "see" to the next line I wrote |
| 16:01.46 | vhaarr | I didn't append it to that line |
| 16:01.57 | ckknight | what also works is prefixing with "Look," |
| 16:02.05 | ckknight | or "My friends," |
| 16:02.11 | Fisker- | yeah but i'm making movies |
| 16:02.20 | vhaarr | get your clothes back on Fisker- |
| 16:02.28 | Fisker- | nah |
| 16:02.29 | vhaarr | make those movies at night or when noone is watching |
| 16:02.36 | Fisker- | it's my birthday so i get to run around naked today |
| 16:03.02 | vhaarr | if I thought you were serious I'd utter some form of congratulatory remark |
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| 16:04.35 | Industrial | congratulati-wait a minute |
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| 16:04.54 | Industrial | somethnig smells fishy |
| 16:05.00 | Industrial | Fisker-: put your clothes back on |
| 16:05.50 | ckknight_ | blah |
| 16:05.52 | ckknight_ | we're switching internet providers |
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| 16:07.20 | SunTsu | ckknight: wowace' forum search seems to be broken. "This reCAPTCHA key isn't authorized for the given domain." |
| 16:07.31 | ckknight | no idea how to fix that |
| 16:07.40 | viisual|work | Works for me... |
| 16:08.32 | Belazor | SunTsu: What domain are you using to access the forum? wowace.com or curseforge.com |
| 16:08.50 | SunTsu | Belazor: wowace.com |
| 16:09.10 | SunTsu | forums.wowace.com, to be more precise |
| 16:09.12 | Belazor | ckknight: do you have access to the reCAPTCHA.net login info? |
| 16:09.14 | nevcairiel | i bet he blocked referer or something |
| 16:09.19 | CrazyBenny | @project wintergraspfu |
| 16:09.21 | ckknight | no, Belazor |
| 16:09.22 | nevcairiel | because it works fine for me |
| 16:09.32 | Belazor | no it's because of our licence-violating dual-domain setup :p |
| 16:09.39 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: On every single Machine/Browser-Combination I tried? |
| 16:09.47 | nevcairiel | SunTsu: sure :) |
| 16:09.52 | Xinhuan | what? |
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| 16:10.13 | Belazor | hm the vB builtin forum search works for me too O.o |
| 16:10.30 | Repo | CrazyBenny: http://www.wowace.com/projects/wintergraspfu/. FuBar_WintergraspFu. Game: WoW. -Adron- (Manager/Author). Updated: 2 hours ago |
| 16:10.46 | Xinhuan | that's some crazy repo lag |
| 16:11.37 | Belazor | Xinhuan: You know, the whole "hiding curseforge forums when on wowace and vice versa" - according to Jelsoft, this requires 2 licences as it's different content for different sites :p |
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| 16:11.38 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 16:11.38 | Xinhuan | really |
| 16:11.38 | Belazor | rly |
| 16:11.38 | Xinhuan | doesn't curseforge have a liscense too? |
| 16:11.42 | nevcairiel | not like you can input 2 license keys into the vB thing |
| 16:11.46 | nevcairiel | o.o |
| 16:11.49 | Belazor | ... |
| 16:11.51 | Fisker- | Reported to Jelsoft |
| 16:11.55 | Xinhuan | i mean, which domain has the lisencse then |
| 16:11.59 | Xinhuan | wowace or curseforge? |
| 16:12.00 | Belazor | I dont know |
| 16:12.02 | Belazor | one of them |
| 16:12.47 | Belazor | but in the vBulletin Members Area for the licence number that runs on both domains, you can set 1 domain. So purchasing another licence would allow them to input say curseforge.com in the OTHER Members Area, thus making it legal |
| 16:12.52 | Belazor | it doesn't matter what files you use |
| 16:12.58 | Belazor | hell you can use nulled files if you want |
| 16:13.09 | Belazor | but the DOMAIN must be defined somewhere in a licence's members area |
| 16:13.51 | Xinhuan | shouldn't you find out which domain doesn't have the lisecense then ;p |
| 16:14.06 | SunTsu | curseforge works for me |
| 16:14.16 | Belazor | I don't have access to the members area for that licence, how the fawk do you suppose I find that out |
| 16:14.16 | Belazor | XD |
| 16:14.36 | Xinhuan | get ckknight or something ;p |
| 16:14.44 | ckknight | I don't do the forums. |
| 16:14.47 | nevcairiel | Fisker- is that you? =P http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=7372939510&sid=1 |
| 16:15.11 | Fisker- | nope |
| 16:15.44 | Fisker- | It's my birthday so i'm not trolling today(that much) |
| 16:16.01 | nevcairiel | wasnt it your birthday two month ago already? |
| 16:16.07 | Fisker- | no |
| 16:16.12 | Belazor | It's not really a cause for concern since Curse never update their vB versions anyways, and all they can do is shut down the licence. I bet Curse hosts the shit themselves so they dont have to worry about a DMCA notice or CnD :p |
| 16:16.16 | steev | how does one go about getting addons without the libs embedded these days, or do i just need to rip out the embedded libs? |
| 16:16.35 | Fisker- | Yeah Belazor i can ignore DMCA when i host shit myself!1 |
| 16:16.45 | Fisker- | puts up his new warez side |
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| 16:16.47 | Fisker- | site* |
| 16:16.55 | steev | you go Fisker-! |
| 16:16.59 | Fisker- | goes |
| 16:17.00 | steev | fight da power |
| 16:17.25 | steev | throws on his huge gold chain necklace with a clock at the bottom of it |
| 16:17.26 | Belazor | If you run your own server then only the ISP can do anything about it, and at least my ISP don't care that Ive been maxing my dload on HD-Bits for months now |
| 16:17.27 | Belazor | XD |
| 16:17.58 | nevcairiel | they dont care if you dl, but if you ul, they might =p |
| 16:18.06 | Belazor | I always seed to 2.0 |
| 16:18.09 | Belazor | Sharing is caring |
| 16:18.38 | steev | thats what she said |
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| 16:18.54 | durcyn | nothing's going to happen unless someone like the mpaa complains to your isp |
| 16:18.57 | Fisker- | Lets make a DMCA of our own! |
| 16:18.58 | Belazor | I have like 75 torrents on Finished with a 2.0 ratio, and even one I upped to tpb myself thats at like 135 |
| 16:18.58 | Belazor | XD |
| 16:19.02 | Fisker- | Digital Millenium Caring Act |
| 16:19.05 | Belazor | XD |
| 16:19.19 | Belazor | no wait make that 500 ratio |
| 16:19.19 | Belazor | kek |
| 16:19.29 | nevcairiel | ew public torrent pages |
| 16:19.31 | nevcairiel | shrugs |
| 16:19.55 | Belazor | they didnt have the kotor1 ost from beforehand |
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| 16:20.09 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 16:21.07 | SunTsu | er "Image verification unsuccessful due to incorrect reCAPTCHATM private key. Contact the admin." on curseforge |
| 16:21.12 | Fisker- | ckknight is Cameron Knight in Knight Rider |
| 16:21.26 | Belazor | SunTsu: Are you searching as guest? |
| 16:21.28 | Fisker- | "Turbo Mode? That's preposterous!" |
| 16:21.31 | SunTsu | Belazor: Yeah |
| 16:21.34 | Belazor | oic |
| 16:21.36 | Fisker- | turbo boost* |
| 16:21.39 | Belazor | logs out |
| 16:23.02 | Xinhuan | SunTsu, try it from forums.wowace instead of curseforge? lol |
| 16:23.06 | steev | ckknight: just a minor suggestion, but would it be possible, when you tag releases like 1.3.1 to have it show up in the addons list as such (i downloaded 1.3.1 and the addons list its listed as "Chinchilla 1.0" |
| 16:23.07 | Belazor | Ill create a new recaptcha key |
| 16:23.12 | Belazor | WAIT. ILL FIX IT. |
| 16:23.35 | ckknight | steev: maybe later |
| 16:24.06 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: I tried from forums.wowace.com and from curseforge. Both fail. The first won't even show a captcha picture, the later one says the key is incorrect |
| 16:24.14 | Xinhuan | i see |
| 16:24.47 | steev | ckknight: no pressing issue, i just notice that with a lot of addons, and it makes it harder to know which "version" one is running |
| 16:24.55 | steev | kicks wine |
| 16:25.00 | ckknight | steev: wait, for the Curse Client? |
| 16:25.03 | steev | no |
| 16:25.08 | steev | the addons list itself in WoW |
| 16:25.10 | ckknight | oh |
| 16:25.13 | ckknight | okay |
| 16:25.19 | steev | I'm at work, no curse client |
| 16:25.23 | steev | manual downloads |
| 16:25.24 | ckknight | yea, I just need to change the toc to say @project-version@ |
| 16:27.54 | Belazor | SunTsu: fixed, now shows up on both domains |
| 16:29.27 | SunTsu | Belazor: Great, works again, thanks |
| 16:29.33 | Belazor | ^^ |
| 16:31.33 | SunTsu | Hm, curseforge still tells me that the reCAPTCHA private key was wrong |
| 16:33.53 | Groktar | gently pats SunTsu |
| 16:34.25 | SunTsu | OK, now it seems to be working on both domains. Maybe some local caching problem |
| 16:34.59 | SunTsu | ~pat Groktar |
| 16:35.00 | purl | ACTION pats Groktar and says "Nicely Done!" |
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| 16:40.51 | ckknight | I wish python didn't require parentheses to call methods |
| 16:40.52 | ckknight | :-P |
| 16:41.28 | Pneumatus | is alpha6 the latest CC alpha, or has there been a newer one in the last week? :> |
| 16:41.44 | Groktar | has alpha8! |
| 16:41.50 | Pneumatus | :o |
| 16:42.11 | Repo | 10smartmount: 03akazik * r69 / (4 files in 2 directories): - added grouped selection (ticket #11) |
| 16:42.13 | Repo | - changed required rock lib (ticket #20) |
| 16:42.15 | Groktar | giggles at Pneumatus |
| 16:42.16 | Repo | - added icons to the exclude settings |
| 16:42.21 | Pneumatus | a8 public, or secret? |
| 16:43.11 | thul | I have to make myself a "fraid not"-macro for when people ask if I can tank |
| 16:43.22 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r86 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 16:43.25 | Repo | Moved the Proc Stats to a Per-Character database, this will stop them from being reset/copied on Profile Changes. |
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| 16:44.09 | steev | ckknight: okay, im using 1.3.1 which looked to be the latest according to the project page on wowace.com and this is what I get - no buttons on my minimap except for wim and dbm - http://steev.net/files/screenshots/chinchilla.png |
| 16:45.17 | Repo | 10smartmount: 03akazik 04v3.0-70 * r70 : Tagging as v3.0-70 |
| 16:46.17 | ckknight | steev: hrm... |
| 16:46.28 | ckknight | steev: no other minimap addons? |
| 16:48.00 | Xinhuan | sexymap might be hiding them ;p |
| 16:48.32 | Groktar | i see your problem steev |
| 16:48.45 | Groktar | you have a virus called ubuntu. |
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| 16:49.16 | steev | Groktar: can't help it, i'd be using Gentoo but work standardized on Ubuntu |
| 16:50.35 | Wraithan | Virtualize your ubuntu install so you can look like you are using that |
| 16:50.46 | Wraithan | And run Gentoo :D |
| 16:51.00 | Pneumatus | i have a feeling now xmas is over it might be a good time to think about writing a sexy synching wintergrasp timer reminder addon |
| 16:51.00 | Belazor | I say giev Win7 beta ;o |
| 16:52.41 | Wraithan | Lame, I am going to have to either manually update lightheaded/tomtom or install the wowi client =( |
| 16:52.55 | Pneumatus | bleh, someone beat me to it |
| 16:53.16 | durcyn | Wraithan: tomtom is available via public svn, if you know where to look. |
| 16:53.35 | Wraithan | still it is a separate syncing method |
| 16:54.05 | Wraithan | there any clients that do both yet, I know when I quit the curse sync API wasn't open for others |
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| 16:55.00 | ckknight | we still don't have an open API |
| 16:55.06 | Wraithan | lame. |
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| 16:55.23 | ckknight | though it's something that would be useful (especially for premium users who wouldn't get ads anyway) |
| 16:55.27 | steev | ckknight: no, no other minimap mods afaik, lemme double check though |
| 16:55.55 | Wraithan | ckknight: they adding ads to the curse client? |
| 16:56.10 | ckknight | I thought there already were ads. |
| 16:56.26 | ckknight | all authors get free premium, though |
| 16:56.29 | ckknight | so don't worry about that |
| 16:56.35 | Wraithan | not in 2.0.1.0 at least |
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| 16:56.47 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 16:56.54 | AckisWork | WHAT? ADS? AHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 16:56.59 | ckknight | I think everyone has free premium for right now |
| 16:57.04 | Wraithan | Ah |
| 16:57.22 | Wraithan | I run the beta version of the client, which could be another reason why |
| 16:59.12 | steev | maybe ill go ahead and update the librock stuff since thats all i see in libs for chinchilla |
| 16:59.38 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 17:01.52 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r87 / (3 files in 1 directory): Renamed proculasldb.lua to ProculasLDB.lua |
| 17:02.37 | Zenom | WTB updated curse client for mac :) |
| 17:03.32 | steev | alias curse.exe "svn up" |
| 17:05.25 | durcyn | you forgot --ignore-externals. |
| 17:05.59 | steev | durcyn: shh |
| 17:06.10 | steev | he wanted the curse client :-P |
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| 17:08.17 | steev | woot |
| 17:08.20 | ckknight | steev: I don't use svn anymore :-P |
| 17:08.24 | steev | christmas present arrived |
| 17:08.28 | ckknight | gz |
| 17:08.34 | steev | ckknight: i don't like mgit |
| 17:08.46 | ckknight | ...so? |
| 17:09.14 | AckisWork | midgit/ |
| 17:09.30 | ckknight | lol |
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| 17:11.29 | steev | whatever the git client is for windows |
| 17:11.37 | ckknight | msysgit |
| 17:11.46 | ckknight | they're also working on TortoiseGit now |
| 17:12.17 | Arrowmaster | boo to tortoise clones |
| 17:12.25 | steev | thats the one |
| 17:12.29 | steev | not a fan of it |
| 17:12.39 | steev | i'd rather just use git on my linux box and scp the files over to windows |
| 17:13.04 | durcyn | my only beef with git is the merges exploding with any local changes |
| 17:13.19 | durcyn | on pulls, anyway |
| 17:13.21 | nevcairiel | commit your chances before =P |
| 17:13.25 | nevcairiel | changes* |
| 17:13.37 | durcyn | i don't have write access to every repo i pull from |
| 17:13.53 | nevcairiel | but you can commit your changes anyway |
| 17:13.56 | nevcairiel | distributed! |
| 17:14.00 | nevcairiel | you just cant push |
| 17:14.02 | durcyn | oh, hey, good point |
| 17:14.08 | Arrowmaster | you can set it up to rebase local commits on pull |
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| 17:16.13 | Repo | 10statlogiclib: 03fenlis * r223 StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: - Fixed translation koKR |
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| 17:28.18 | Xinhuan | ackis |
| 17:28.43 | AckisWork | yo |
| 17:28.48 | Xinhuan | ARL is listing the JC vendor (selling recipes in dalaran) being in Ironforge |
| 17:28.58 | Xinhuan | Tiffany Cartier is the name |
| 17:29.09 | AckisWork | will look at it |
| 17:29.13 | Xinhuan | you should |
| 17:29.19 | Xinhuan | because the coordinates are totally wrong |
| 17:29.19 | AckisWork | le sigh |
| 17:29.26 | Xinhuan | go look up the NPC location in wowdb lol |
| 17:29.42 | Xinhuan | its pretty fucked |
| 17:29.58 | Xinhuan | in fact every NPC is fucked that way |
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| 17:30.34 | nevcairiel | because she moves? =P |
| 17:30.39 | Xinhuan | no |
| 17:30.43 | Xinhuan | she is stationary |
| 17:30.46 | Xinhuan | in the JC shop |
| 17:30.50 | Xinhuan | here's an example NPC - http://www.wowdb.com/npc.aspx?id=24208 - located in 13 zones |
| 17:30.53 | nevcairiel | why does she have 200 nodes in dalaran? |
| 17:30.55 | Xinhuan | but really only exists in one |
| 17:31.06 | Xinhuan | because the curse profiler addon sucks |
| 17:31.19 | Belazor | now CC won't let me login, after I logged in on the forums. Using Alpha6, says login invalid |
| 17:31.20 | Xinhuan | its recording the location on PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGE (ppl /tar the npc) |
| 17:31.24 | nevcairiel | blame ckknight then =P |
| 17:31.33 | ckknight | ? |
| 17:31.38 | ckknight | yea, I already said it was my bad |
| 17:31.41 | ckknight | and that I'm not fixing it |
| 17:31.43 | Xinhuan | well, i'm telling ackis ;p |
| 17:31.45 | Xinhuan | so he can fix it |
| 17:31.47 | Xinhuan | in his addon |
| 17:31.50 | ckknight | ah |
| 17:32.02 | Xinhuan | because ARL is scraping all the NPC incorrect location |
| 17:32.04 | Pneumatus_ | Belazor: i had to re-input my password |
| 17:32.04 | AckisWork | no one cares about wowdb :( |
| 17:32.05 | Xinhuan | from wowdb |
| 17:32.06 | AckisWork | except me |
| 17:32.07 | AckisWork | :( |
| 17:32.13 | Xinhuan | see that innkeeper? |
| 17:32.15 | Belazor | tried that, didn't worl |
| 17:32.16 | Xinhuan | its in 13 zones |
| 17:32.16 | nevcairiel | use wowhead already |
| 17:32.17 | ckknight | AckisWork: right, that's why I'm not bothering to fix it. |
| 17:32.19 | Xinhuan | all with the same URL |
| 17:32.28 | Xinhuan | i mean same coords |
| 17:32.29 | Xinhuan | here's an example NPC - http://www.wowdb.com/npc.aspx?id=24208 - located in 13 |
| 17:32.32 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: was told that I can't |
| 17:32.44 | Pneumatus | wowdb is generally more correct than wowhead, just its about 2 years too late |
| 17:32.45 | Xinhuan | do manual data entry |
| 17:32.46 | Belazor | and now randomly worked, 5th client relaunch :p |
| 17:32.57 | Xinhuan | Pneumatus - http://www.wowdb.com/npc.aspx?id=242 |
| 17:33.02 | Xinhuan | tell me how wowdb is correct |
| 17:33.05 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: I think I am gonna have to :( |
| 17:33.22 | Pneumatus | npc doesn't exist, Xinhuan :o |
| 17:33.28 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowdb.com/npc.aspx?id=28721 |
| 17:33.29 | nevcairiel | he means 24208 |
| 17:33.32 | nevcairiel | not 242 |
| 17:33.33 | Xinhuan | or how a non-moving NPC |
| 17:33.40 | Xinhuan | is located in 198 locations in dalaran |
| 17:33.48 | Pneumatus | heh, fail |
| 17:34.07 | AckisWork | ~wowspell 3449 |
| 17:34.08 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=3449 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=3449 |
| 17:34.21 | Pneumatus | i still despise wowdb because it's fake armory'ing my characters with no way to remove/exclude them |
| 17:34.22 | Xinhuan | and in 4 zones ;p |
| 17:36.02 | ckknight | Pneumatus: I thought you could remove your characters... |
| 17:36.05 | ckknight | (don't ask me how) |
| 17:36.05 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowdb.com/npc.aspx?id=352 - Stormwind flightmaster ;p |
| 17:36.07 | Pneumatus | wowhead still suffers from being full of outdated crap (especially nodes) which should have a flag on them per-patch and if they arent seen after x amount of time they get binned |
| 17:36.10 | Xinhuan | in 40 locations |
| 17:36.12 | Xinhuan | and 3 zones |
| 17:36.19 | Wraithan | hmmm tomtom isn't showing the arror like it should |
| 17:36.21 | Pneumatus | ckknight: not that i've ever been able to see :< |
| 17:36.24 | Wraithan | arrow |
| 17:36.36 | AckisWork | ckknight: you can't =/ |
| 17:36.44 | Wraithan | Er, it is, but it isn't showing the quest waypoints |
| 17:37.00 | ckknight | that's lame |
| 17:37.02 | ckknight | I dunno then |
| 17:37.50 | Pneumatus | wowdb doesn't really do anything new that wowhead doesn't do already, which is why people will always go to wowhead imo |
| 17:37.57 | Pneumatus | as it has 1000% more value due to the comments |
| 17:38.02 | Arrowmaster | yes more work does need to be put into wowdb to make it more accurate, since it gets updated from people using the curseclient it should have more people supplying data than wowhead |
| 17:38.21 | Belazor | Except for people like me, who disable the profiler in WoW's addon config |
| 17:38.26 | Belazor | in before 100 why questions |
| 17:38.44 | Xinhuan | i don't even use the curse client - i manual download addons now |
| 17:38.56 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: the profiler is very buggy which causes issues |
| 17:38.58 | Arrowmaster | yeah i dont even use the client |
| 17:39.22 | Arrowmaster | AckisWork: but purging of old data could be better |
| 17:39.23 | steev | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.37 | steev | this customer makes me want to stab people through the phone |
| 17:39.51 | Pneumatus | i started using the CC again when the alphas came, and they have been a lot better |
| 17:40.47 | steev | i provide info to both wowdb and wowhead |
| 17:40.58 | Belazor | A6 with fixed exe doesn't crash anymore either XD |
| 17:41.08 | steev | i like wowdb's comparison to my toon |
| 17:41.11 | steev | when i look at gear |
| 17:41.12 | Pneumatus | A6 is still slow at scanning addon folders tho |
| 17:41.44 | Belazor | ye thats because its reading toc files too I believe |
| 17:41.53 | Pneumatus | it's reading all sorts of things, i think |
| 17:41.58 | Pneumatus | file size hashes etc |
| 17:42.03 | Xinhuan | reading a TOC shouldn't take more than 50 ms lol |
| 17:42.27 | Pneumatus | the only way it can be checking for dirty addons is by checking filesize/checksum of each file |
| 17:42.30 | Xinhuan | i mean |
| 17:42.33 | Belazor | I bet kaelten forgot a few sleep() calls in there XD |
| 17:42.41 | Xinhuan | even WoW reads ALL addon files faster than the CC reads them huh |
| 17:42.46 | Belazor | XD |
| 17:42.51 | Belazor | tru.dat |
| 17:42.58 | Xinhuan | i mean wow has to load all of them, compile and execute too |
| 17:43.15 | ckknight | the new curse clients do no TOC scanning. |
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| 17:43.37 | Belazor | ya my game launches from cold faster than the CC does its thang, not including network issues or human lag on entering character |
| 17:44.01 | Wraithan | Anyone use Tomtom/lightheaded ? |
| 17:44.06 | Belazor | both |
| 17:44.07 | Wraithan | I can't get the waypoints to show up |
| 17:44.07 | steev | not since 3.0 |
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| 17:44.18 | Belazor | never had a prob with that |
| 17:44.18 | Pneumatus | i use tomtom, but not lightheaded |
| 17:44.21 | Wraithan | Belazor: do you use cartographer also? |
| 17:44.26 | Belazor | lol no |
| 17:44.36 | Arrowmaster | tomtom works fine |
| 17:44.57 | Belazor | why are the wowace forums not more interesting |
| 17:45.12 | Xinhuan | post a controversial issue |
| 17:45.16 | Xinhuan | to make it interesting then |
| 17:45.21 | Arrowmaster | because i get yelled at when they are |
| 17:45.27 | Belazor | mikk locked the interesting thread :( |
| 17:45.32 | ckknight | hehe |
| 17:45.36 | durcyn | it's about time for another "hay where's WAU" thread anyway |
| 17:45.40 | Xinhuan | lets try umm addons in compilations, or wowmatrix vs wau |
| 17:45.51 | Belazor | or better |
| 17:46.04 | Wraithan | hmm, ok, disabled Cartographer and it started working |
| 17:46.05 | ckknight | let's revive Ace3 vs. Rock |
| 17:46.09 | Belazor | OMG. CURS R SIHT CC SUX GIV VAU BAK OR I QUIT CAME |
| 17:46.48 | Belazor | Yeah what happened to rock anyways, not enough author adaptation or what? |
| 17:47.03 | Xinhuan | code is too complex to debug lol |
| 17:47.08 | ckknight | basically, as a framework it has its merits, but politically it was a failure |
| 17:47.25 | ckknight | so I gave up on it for the most part |
| 17:47.35 | Belazor | politically? how, your CurseAce relations? XD |
| 17:47.42 | ckknight | no, Belazor |
| 17:47.55 | ckknight | and that's irrelevant, Rock was always under the wowace umbrella |
| 17:48.07 | ckknight | despite not being the "official framework" |
| 17:48.11 | Belazor | 'kay, just making guesswork to try to extract an answer, lul |
| 17:48.34 | ckknight | basically not enough adoption and people actively fighting against it |
| 17:48.39 | Belazor | ah |
| 17:48.50 | ckknight | it got to a point where it wasn't worth the stress |
| 17:48.51 | Xinhuan | ckknight, don't forget there was controversial issues with it as well |
| 17:48.51 | steev | i wasn't a happy camper... until i used it |
| 17:48.58 | Xinhuan | talent sharing - for instance |
| 17:49.00 | steev | then it was like, i jizz in my pants whenever i use it |
| 17:49.01 | ckknight | having to argue constantly with people |
| 17:49.05 | Xinhuan | until blizzard made it public |
| 17:49.19 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: people QQIng about that talent sharing should've been shot |
| 17:49.26 | ckknight | quite. |
| 17:49.32 | Xinhuan | and that scrooge war lol |
| 17:49.42 | AckisWork | now that was funny |
| 17:49.45 | AckisWork | (IMO) |
| 17:49.56 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1287 / (3 files in 2 directories): Update alchemy for missing acquire info for some recipes. |
| 17:50.09 | Belazor | Engrish commit note, check |
| 17:50.23 | ckknight | I'm still peeved at Scrooge |
| 17:50.28 | Xinhuan | so ackis think you can actually fix all those NPC locations? |
| 17:50.30 | ckknight | taking away my fucking donate buttons |
| 17:50.34 | Belazor | Do tell! |
| 17:50.44 | Belazor | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:50.46 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: no way |
| 17:50.53 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: need to manually do all this shit |
| 17:51.09 | Xinhuan | i update gemhelper manually ;p |
| 17:51.14 | Xinhuan | gem by gem! |
| 17:51.21 | Grum | P A I N |
| 17:51.25 | Grum | now hurry up |
| 17:51.35 | AckisWork | I was updating ARL manually but... people wanted a new filter flag added each week which was a pain in the ass |
| 17:51.47 | durcyn | tell them no. |
| 17:51.56 | Stanzilla | AckisWork: where are my minimap blips? :> |
| 17:51.59 | AckisWork | I have trouble with that word |
| 17:52.01 | AckisWork | Stanzilla: no |
| 17:52.02 | AckisWork | hahaha |
| 17:52.03 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
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| 17:52.05 | AckisWork | see what I did there? |
| 17:52.08 | Xinhuan | ackis, i have manual filters in gemhelper too |
| 17:52.17 | Xinhuan | as such i key in every filter's data manually ;p |
| 17:52.26 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: over 100 filters? |
| 17:52.28 | Wraithan | Ah I see, Lightheaded doesn't atomatically add waypoints |
| 17:52.33 | Xinhuan | well one for each gem stat |
| 17:52.39 | Xinhuan | and then different colours |
| 17:52.42 | Xinhuan | and then different gem mats |
| 17:52.58 | Xinhuan | so about 70+ ? |
| 17:53.07 | steev | ouch, wtf is up with the networking on this thing |
| 17:53.23 | steev | Downloading World of Warcraft files - About 980 minutes... |
| 17:53.26 | AckisWork | ahh fair amount then, and I know JC has a shitload of patterns too |
| 17:53.35 | Xinhuan | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/titler.aspx |
| 17:53.39 | Xinhuan | i installed this lol |
| 17:53.46 | Xinhuan | now people are "wtf how many titles do you have" |
| 17:53.59 | Arrowmaster | what does it do? |
| 17:54.10 | Xinhuan | changes your player title every X seconds |
| 17:54.12 | Xinhuan | default 1 |
| 17:54.16 | AckisWork | "By default, it rotates to a different title every 1 second. " |
| 17:54.18 | Pneumatus | i'm at about 14 titles i think |
| 17:54.20 | durcyn | that could be amusing. |
| 17:54.25 | Xinhuan | i'm at 21 titles not including "None" |
| 17:54.29 | AckisWork | I need that |
| 17:54.50 | Pneumatus | Xinhuan: guessing you have a few arena titles, scarab lord and bloodsail |
| 17:54.57 | durcyn | i really wish they'd kept prefix and suffix titles though, need more obnoxiously long names |
| 17:54.57 | Arrowmaster | i only have 9 |
| 17:54.57 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r1840 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update |
| 17:55.00 | Pneumatus | and possibly world firsts? |
| 17:55.03 | Xinhuan | i have Rival |
| 17:55.05 | Xinhuan | no world firsts |
| 17:55.09 | Xinhuan | DnT and Nurfed are on my realm |
| 17:55.12 | Pneumatus | 3 drakes? |
| 17:55.15 | Xinhuan | world first is unfeasible |
| 17:55.27 | durcyn | the titles are server first, not world first |
| 17:55.27 | Xinhuan | 3 drakes? not attempted |
| 17:55.31 | Xinhuan | we only had 5 healers |
| 17:55.32 | steev | our server first guild is annoying |
| 17:55.37 | Xinhuan | log on today |
| 17:55.40 | Arrowmaster | you are lucky enough to have scarab lord |
| 17:55.40 | Xinhuan | so we did sarth2d |
| 17:55.54 | Grum | still quite good with only 5 :) |
| 17:55.57 | Xinhuan | technically i'm not lucky, since i forced my guild to do it for me ;p |
| 17:56.09 | steev | god i hope my box at home reboots |
| 17:56.10 | Jaxon | Still, lucky. |
| 17:56.18 | Pneumatus | i bet you loved being a quest npc when people were farming chitin |
| 17:56.24 | Xinhuan | thing is i was third person in my guild to loot the broodlord head |
| 17:56.24 | steev | whats the scarab lord title? the ringer of the gong? |
| 17:56.31 | Xinhuan | the first 2 didn't do shit with it |
| 17:56.32 | Xinhuan | so i did it |
| 17:56.36 | Jaxon | AckisWork: ARL was giving me "Addon Blocked" errors last night when I tried to set Main Tanks in a raid :P |
| 17:56.53 | AckisWork | Jaxon: probably ace library stuff |
| 17:57.04 | Jaxon | AckisWork: probably, but you are a big doodoo head. |
| 17:57.11 | AckisWork | we all know that |
| 17:57.47 | steev | my dk only has Jenkins |
| 17:57.56 | steev | im pretty fail when it comes to achievements and whatnot |
| 17:58.08 | Xinhuan | i'm at 6255 points now, did like 6 achievements today |
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| 17:58.29 | steev | im actually kinda lucky to even have gotten that |
| 17:58.35 | steev | im standing around IF |
| 17:58.36 | Arrowmaster | 4335 =( |
| 17:58.38 | Xinhuan | darkmoon 11775/21000 rep |
| 17:58.39 | durcyn | don't talk to me about points, i was 6th on wow-achievements until the arena crap started |
| 17:58.41 | steev | and someone randomly sends me a tell |
| 17:58.44 | Pneumatus | 5545 |
| 17:58.58 | steev | wanna go do [Leeeeeeeeeeroy] |
| 17:59.01 | steev | im like sure |
| 17:59.04 | AckisWork | durcyn: wow-achievements? |
| 17:59.12 | steev | finally get down there, go inside... and they are like... who's got the key? |
| 17:59.13 | Xinhuan | http://www.sk-gaming.com/achievement/player/us/32/ |
| 17:59.17 | Xinhuan | see that thing is outdated |
| 17:59.21 | Xinhuan | i'm at 6255 points |
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| 17:59.26 | Xinhuan | not 5955 |
| 17:59.29 | durcyn | AckisWork: http://www.wow-achievements.com |
| 17:59.41 | durcyn | it scrapes armory and ranks by total achievement points |
| 17:59.54 | steev | does altoid do anything aside from wow? srsly |
| 17:59.59 | Xinhuan | dunno |
| 18:00.01 | Xinhuan | but he's Nurfed ;p |
| 18:00.09 | steev | point taken |
| 18:00.19 | Xinhuan | http://www.wow-achievements.com/Realm.aspx?region=US&realm=Blackrock <-- this seems more updated |
| 18:00.21 | Xinhuan | altoids isn't top on it |
| 18:00.26 | nevcairiel | first is 7000 .. you have something to do Xinhuan :P |
| 18:00.29 | steev | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Draka&n=Steev don't laugh too hard at my arena ratings plz |
| 18:00.39 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, i can't hit 7000 unless i'm a gladiator ;p |
| 18:00.39 | steev | 1975! |
| 18:00.45 | nevcairiel | so |
| 18:00.50 | steev | (achievement points not arena rating) |
| 18:00.52 | nevcairiel | l2pvp? |
| 18:01.03 | Xinhuan | i wish i was good at pvp |
| 18:01.07 | Xinhuan | sadly i am not |
| 18:01.09 | steev | nah, we just fuck around in arenas |
| 18:01.13 | AckisWork | I'm not even on this list http://www.wow-achievements.com/Realm.aspx?region=US&realm=azgalor :( |
| 18:01.20 | Xinhuan | just add yourself ackis |
| 18:01.27 | Xinhuan | by searching for yourself on it |
| 18:01.32 | Xinhuan | it updates that way |
| 18:01.47 | AckisWork | ahh |
| 18:01.49 | Trell- | I has 1990 points >< |
| 18:02.06 | Trell- | but I do have Merrymaker. |
| 18:02.08 | Xinhuan | http://www.sk-gaming.com/achievement/player/us/32/ |
| 18:02.16 | Xinhuan | you can tell at a glance which are the top raiding guilds though |
| 18:02.26 | Xinhuan | by looking at top 100 achievements lol |
| 18:03.03 | Grum | wth |
| 18:03.13 | steev | meh |
| 18:03.16 | Grum | the top guy looted 1000 emblems of heroism on 24/11/2008 |
| 18:03.17 | Pneumatus | sk's site is screwed for me, and on my realm it's only got 20 people ranked |
| 18:03.23 | nevcairiel | according to that list, i'm 3rd on my realm |
| 18:03.24 | Xinhuan | yes, it was bugged |
| 18:03.28 | Xinhuan | for a while |
| 18:03.28 | nevcairiel | but who knows how accurate that is |
| 18:03.37 | Pneumatus | looting emblems was bugged as you could macro the 1000 achievement |
| 18:03.37 | Xinhuan | spam clicking the emblems |
| 18:03.47 | Grum | Xinhuan: how lame is that? |
| 18:03.48 | Xinhuan | the achievement counted CLICKS |
| 18:03.52 | Xinhuan | rather than actual looting |
| 18:03.54 | steev | wtf |
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| 18:03.57 | AckisWork | hmm Ace3 question... my db is: addon.db.profile.frameopts... can I reset that to default without resetting the entire addon.db.profile to defaults? |
| 18:04.02 | durcyn | i have to wonder who decided to code that on LootSlot() instead of the actual inventory event |
| 18:04.03 | Xinhuan | until it was hotfixed |
| 18:04.06 | nevcairiel | AckisWork: no |
| 18:04.10 | Pneumatus | so every time you get a "that item is busy" you get achievement credit and no item |
| 18:04.11 | steev | my rogue doesn't have the clockwork rocket bot achievement even though i pulled out all my pets last night |
| 18:04.27 | Xinhuan | steev, clockwork robot != racer |
| 18:04.39 | steev | http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=1705 |
| 18:04.40 | nevcairiel | the robot is last years |
| 18:04.41 | durcyn | pretty sure the robot's not available this year around |
| 18:04.47 | steev | correct |
| 18:04.50 | steev | my statement still stands |
| 18:04.55 | steev | I have the one from last year |
| 18:04.56 | Grum | did anyone ever do the malygos in sub 5 mins? |
| 18:05.01 | steev | WoW isn't giving it to me |
| 18:05.08 | durcyn | Grum: Yep. |
| 18:05.13 | Xinhuan | i want to do malygos 5 min |
| 18:05.17 | Xinhuan | but my guild has no raiding hunters |
| 18:05.18 | Arrowmaster | wow doesnt count the pets, just the items that teach the pets |
| 18:05.20 | Xinhuan | no frost trap |
| 18:05.23 | durcyn | hunters aren't required |
| 18:05.31 | Grum | err? |
| 18:05.33 | Xinhuan | oh it isn't but their dps is insane |
| 18:05.33 | Arrowmaster | stacking hat rogues |
| 18:05.35 | durcyn | we did it with a couple of deathknights and balance druids |
| 18:05.46 | Xinhuan | also not enough DKs i think |
| 18:05.48 | durcyn | huh? hunters are garbage on malygos, he's in the air for half his life |
| 18:05.51 | nevcairiel | hat should be fixed already |
| 18:05.52 | Grum | explain how? |
| 18:06.05 | Xinhuan | hunter = ranged, malygos in air = ranged |
| 18:06.06 | durcyn | and we didn't use hat rogues either, no |
| 18:06.07 | Xinhuan | how is that crap |
| 18:06.10 | nevcairiel | the talent states a 1s cooldown, but somehow that doesnt apply =P |
| 18:06.19 | durcyn | Xinhuan: BM - pets = crap |
| 18:06.33 | Xinhuan | doesn't matter i want to do 108k crits ;p |
| 18:06.47 | steev | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.47 | Grum | wth? |
| 18:06.48 | Xinhuan | 12k crit *1.5^6 = 105k |
| 18:06.48 | steev | Largest hit dealt |
| 18:06.54 | durcyn | anyway, the sparks are multiplicative, any ranged is fine if you position them correctly with death grip and roots |
| 18:06.57 | Xinhuan | x150% per stack |
| 18:06.57 | Grum | how much do you have to stack that? o.o |
| 18:07.02 | Xinhuan | 5 stacks |
| 18:07.05 | Xinhuan | 6 if you are lucky |
| 18:07.09 | thul | expertice vs. crit for a blood dk? :-P |
| 18:07.14 | Xinhuan | hence *1.5^6 |
| 18:07.15 | Grum | how on earth do you want to get 6 of them? |
| 18:07.19 | durcyn | Xinhuan: better to save the 6th for p2 |
| 18:07.21 | steev | thul: expertise |
| 18:07.22 | Grum | or ... you trap them? |
| 18:07.24 | NeoTron | thul: expertise mainly because missing is bad |
| 18:07.24 | Xinhuan | you kill at 5 |
| 18:07.29 | Xinhuan | and the 6th spawns as you zerg malygos |
| 18:07.32 | Jaxon | What do poeple here for tracking their buffs on raid members? The addon I'm using on my newly 80 druid to track HoTs doesn't handle multiple druids well. |
| 18:07.33 | Grum | and meanwhile? |
| 18:07.34 | thul | hmm, ok |
| 18:07.34 | Xinhuan | and the DK pulls in as well |
| 18:07.38 | NeoTron | it messes up your rotation, and worse, a missed death rune becomes the rune it originally was |
| 18:07.39 | Xinhuan | meanwhile you just root them |
| 18:07.43 | Xinhuan | and frost trap with hunter |
| 18:07.52 | Grum | and when you get into a vortex? |
| 18:07.53 | Xinhuan | that is, chain root with druids + trap with hunter |
| 18:07.57 | Grum | pray the root sticks? |
| 18:07.57 | Xinhuan | they remain rooted |
| 18:07.59 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 18:08.00 | thul | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40293#comments versus http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40295#comments for a dk in spe |
| 18:08.03 | Xinhuan | that's why you WANT a hunter |
| 18:08.05 | Xinhuan | fo frost trap |
| 18:08.08 | Xinhuan | also chains of ice |
| 18:08.12 | thul | still the prot one? |
| 18:08.12 | Xinhuan | just before you go up |
| 18:08.17 | Pneumatus | Jaxon: HoTCandy |
| 18:08.20 | Kilroo | I wonder how hard it is to make an addon talk to itself |
| 18:08.26 | durcyn | hunters still aren't a big deal, we used zero frost traps on our 5-minute kills |
| 18:08.38 | durcyn | the answer was more death grip and roots |
| 18:08.39 | Jaxon | Pneumatus: thanks. Good to have a starting point when there are so many different addons to do one thing. |
| 18:08.41 | Grum | so till what percentage can you burn him down when he gets airborne? |
| 18:08.42 | Xinhuan | it helps a lot if you only have 2 DKs |
| 18:09.02 | steev | thul: um, what? |
| 18:09.02 | Grum | best we did with heroism was ~31% |
| 18:09.02 | Xinhuan | i bet you used 3 durcyn? |
| 18:09.02 | durcyn | Xinhuan: correct |
| 18:09.02 | Grum | or do you actually skip phase2+3? |
| 18:09.02 | steev | thul: you have a tanking helm vs a dps helm |
| 18:09.05 | nevcairiel | if you really have 6 stacks, alot |
| 18:09.07 | thul | steev: i know :-P |
| 18:09.07 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1288 / (5 files in 2 directories): |
| 18:09.10 | Repo | Add function to reset the GUI to defaults (two new localization strings) |
| 18:09.19 | Xinhuan | remembe each stack is x1.5 damage MULTIPLICATIVE |
| 18:09.22 | durcyn | Grum: you use the sparks to burn him as close to zero during the p1-p2 transition |
| 18:09.23 | steev | well... if you're trying to tank... use the tanking helm... |
| 18:09.26 | Xinhuan | 5 stacks is x7.2 damage |
| 18:09.28 | durcyn | Grum: he should be at 1hp after that |
| 18:09.38 | Xinhuan | 6 stacks is x8.5 or so |
| 18:09.38 | durcyn | Grum: then you use the remaining sparks to speed through p2 |
| 18:09.55 | Xinhuan | you bring him to 0 between p1-p2 |
| 18:09.59 | Xinhuan | he doesn't actually die in p1 |
| 18:10.02 | Xinhuan | you still enter p2 |
| 18:10.08 | Xinhuan | so 4-shot all the adds |
| 18:10.11 | Xinhuan | 108k crits ;p |
| 18:10.18 | Xinhuan | then enter p3 in about 30 secs |
| 18:10.19 | Grum | o.O |
| 18:10.26 | Grum | then 1shot the boss |
| 18:10.27 | Xinhuan | malygos breaks the platform, everyone lands on dragons |
| 18:10.27 | Grum | and done |
| 18:10.37 | Xinhuan | and whoever first the first firebolt at malygos wins |
| 18:10.41 | Grum | you can dot him before you fall on the dragon |
| 18:10.41 | Xinhuan | fromt he red dragon |
| 18:10.45 | NeoTron | so I went into Naxx 10 on my warlock last night and did between 2500-2700 DPS on boss fights. Not too shabby from having hit 80... like 10 minutes earlier |
| 18:10.48 | Xinhuan | yeah he dosen't die though |
| 18:10.51 | Xinhuan | until you enter p3 fully |
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| 18:11.29 | Grum | sounds doable hehe |
| 18:11.37 | Grum | must be eons harder in 10m |
| 18:12.12 | Xinhuan | quite |
| 18:12.19 | Xinhuan | you see, you need 3 DKs unless you have a hunter |
| 18:12.22 | Xinhuan | in 25 mans |
| 18:12.24 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: you can put dots on malygos while the P2-P3 transition occurs so a SW:D would kill hm methinks? |
| 18:12.34 | thul | halfway to 78... juhuu, I think I'll get to 80 before new years actually :-D |
| 18:12.34 | Xinhuan | you need 2 DKs to chain rotate death gripping each spawn |
| 18:12.39 | durcyn | i found 10 to be easier, but either way you end up having to wipe it if the sparks are in shitty positions |
| 18:12.42 | Xinhuan | and the 3rd DK to pull the spark to the gathering point |
| 18:12.57 | thul | are there any good replacements for the de-raged waraxe before heroics/raids? |
| 18:13.03 | Xinhuan | and at the gathering point you need to assign druids to chain root each one |
| 18:13.11 | Xinhuan | and if you don't have 4 druids, you need traps |
| 18:13.15 | Xinhuan | or chain stuns |
| 18:13.44 | Xinhuan | try this one grum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTW9CRtPXzs |
| 18:13.52 | Xinhuan | lots of others on youtube |
| 18:15.48 | steev | god the tables suck on armory |
| 18:15.55 | steev | can't copy out the info at all |
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| 18:16.46 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1289 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fix bug with goldthorn tea. |
| 18:17.58 | Grum | btw xin; i guess there is no way to add any information to the regular tradeskill window? |
| 18:17.58 | Arrowmaster | steev: the armory is xml |
| 18:18.02 | Grum | or additional filters? |
| 18:18.10 | Xinhuan | nope, not without using your own UI |
| 18:18.20 | Grum | kinda lame tbh |
| 18:18.31 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: how are you doing on the 100 mounts/pets? |
| 18:18.50 | Xinhuan | can't reach 100 mounts without buying like 5 TCG mounts |
| 18:18.51 | steev | Arrowmaster: im not gonna parse the xml just to try to copy and paste out one line |
| 18:18.52 | NeoTron | I got another pet from my oracle egg.. which I promptly put on the AH for 1100 g |
| 18:19.05 | Grum | lol |
| 18:19.08 | AckisWork | NeoTron: I hate you :P I got that crap stuff this week |
| 18:19.09 | NeoTron | for people that actually care about achievements |
| 18:19.15 | Grum | well at least you make someone else happy with it ;) |
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| 18:19.29 | NeoTron | I've gotten two egg yolks and two pets so far... unfortunately I didn't notice the BoE on the first pet... |
| 18:19.48 | Grum | i cba to even get my rep to exalted there |
| 18:19.55 | AckisWork | I've gotten three pets, an egg yolk... one of the pets was a duplicate though |
| 18:20.07 | NeoTron | Grum: only neeed revered for the eggs |
| 18:20.08 | steev | my gf got her rep to exalted just to try to get the mount |
| 18:20.17 | Grum | NeoTron: oh true |
| 18:20.28 | AckisWork | oh Xinhuan I got the polar bear the other day finally |
| 18:20.29 | Grum | but I am allergic to dailies |
| 18:20.31 | NeoTron | all exalted gives you is a trinket and a JC pattern I believe |
| 18:20.36 | Xinhuan | i got mine on day 2 lol |
| 18:20.40 | Xinhuan | and baron mount on my 117th run |
| 18:20.41 | AckisWork | yah you told me |
| 18:20.42 | AckisWork | bastard |
| 18:20.43 | durcyn | I hate you both. |
| 18:20.43 | AckisWork | lol |
| 18:20.46 | NeoTron | I did one daily on my DK and got the bear |
| 18:20.47 | Xinhuan | and red qiraji on my first mob pull |
| 18:20.47 | AckisWork | oh grats on the baron mount |
| 18:20.54 | AckisWork | haha |
| 18:20.54 | Grum | i got the malygos 25m mount! take that ;D |
| 18:21.05 | NeoTron | there's a malygos 25m mount? |
| 18:21.09 | Grum | yes :D |
| 18:21.11 | Grum | Azure Drake |
| 18:21.21 | NeoTron | didn't even know that there was... although proto drake or bust |
| 18:21.25 | Xinhuan | 1% drop, gl |
| 18:21.35 | Grum | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43952 |
| 18:21.36 | NeoTron | normal speed? |
| 18:21.53 | Grum | 'fast' .. so proly 280 |
| 18:21.55 | durcyn | yeah, the sarth/malygos mounts are all 280 |
| 18:21.59 | NeoTron | yeah don't want it :) |
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| 18:22.07 | NeoTron | my red proto drake is bettur |
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| 18:22.12 | durcyn | only non-arena 310 are plagued/black/violet |
| 18:22.19 | Xinhuan | my red protodrake is alliance 3rd hehe |
| 18:22.26 | NeoTron | only upgrades: KT phoenix, and the 310% proto drakes |
| 18:22.39 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: I believe ours was server first but I am not sure |
| 18:22.45 | NeoTron | never saw one before we got it |
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| 18:22.48 | Xinhuan | alliance first is also in my guild |
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| 18:22.50 | Grum | well KT should be doable with little people now :D |
| 18:22.57 | durcyn | i've got my server first plagued drake, should get the black one this week |
| 18:23.00 | Xinhuan | but obviously not realm first, due to DnT ;p |
| 18:23.07 | NeoTron | Grum: once holidays is over we'll probably do weekly 10-man KT kills for it |
| 18:23.13 | durcyn | i'm here to tell you, 310 is nice. |
| 18:23.24 | NeoTron | durcyn: indeed... especially as a paladin or unholy DK |
| 18:23.40 | NeoTron | for anyone else, 310% is like the same as the 280% used to be at level 70 |
| 18:23.40 | durcyn | does the dk aura work with non-vehicles? |
| 18:23.45 | Xinhuan | i have a 310% mount ;p |
| 18:23.53 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: gladiator right? |
| 18:23.57 | Xinhuan | yeah s2 |
| 18:23.58 | Grum | 280 is fast enough :) |
| 18:24.05 | Xinhuan | costed me 3000g, instant buy |
| 18:24.11 | Grum | lol? |
| 18:24.22 | NeoTron | proto drakes are great though. I still like that mount model the most |
| 18:24.25 | Xinhuan | there was no such thing as PR in s2 remember? |
| 18:24.27 | NeoTron | except possibly the phoenix |
| 18:24.30 | Xinhuan | personal rating |
| 18:26.09 | NeoTron | most exciting event of the week - we got a hunter app. Like.. they do exist! |
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| 18:26.20 | NeoTron | now I only need proof that resto druids exist - not sure about that one |
| 18:26.23 | Grum | prolly only the pet who applies |
| 18:26.37 | Xinhuan | i have 10 druids wanting to raid in my guild |
| 18:26.40 | Xinhuan | but 0 hunters |
| 18:27.00 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1290 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fix hardened khorium. |
| 18:27.13 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles * r60 / (3 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 18:27.16 | Repo | EasyDKP: - |
| 18:27.18 | Repo | Version 0.5.3 |
| 18:27.21 | Repo | Fix output if website has variations of class names |
| 18:27.24 | Repo | Fix output if to Guild or Officer chat |
| 18:28.27 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles * r61 / (2 files in 1 directory): EasyDKP: - |
| 18:28.29 | Repo | Version 0.5.4 |
| 18:28.32 | Repo | change value in 25s to match cost |
| 18:28.35 | Grum | we recently did a raid without mages/shamans and only 1 DK and 1 hunter |
| 18:28.51 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles 04v0.5.4 * r62 : EasyDKP: - |
| 18:28.54 | Grum | oh and 1 warrior :) |
| 18:29.00 | Repo | Release v0.5.4 to Curse.com |
| 18:29.29 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: I'm a resto druid, does that count? =P |
| 18:29.35 | Grum | mm and only 2 rogues... |
| 18:29.39 | Grum | it was a strange raid :D |
| 18:29.51 | Repo | 10gem-helper: 03Xinhuan * r70 / (4 files in 1 directory): Add all the meta gems and pvp gems. |
| 18:29.52 | Grum | so many druids/priests/locks |
| 18:29.58 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: only if you're apping to my guild :P |
| 18:30.09 | Xinhuan | wts druids |
| 18:30.14 | Xinhuan | have 10 |
| 18:30.18 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 18:30.27 | NeoTron | hehe. wtb. a boomkin and 2 resto would be good |
| 18:30.29 | sylvanaar | a full stack |
| 18:30.40 | nevcairiel | i would take 1-2 restos as well |
| 18:30.44 | nevcairiel | we're 2 restos right now |
| 18:30.47 | nevcairiel | 1 boomkin, 2 ferals |
| 18:30.56 | sylvanaar | we have plent'o'restos |
| 18:31.00 | Xinhuan | i'm at 3 resto, 1 boomkin, 2 tanks, 4 casuals |
| 18:31.02 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 18:31.10 | Grum | we have 3 feral 3 resto 2 boomkin o.O |
| 18:31.15 | Stanzilla | casual is a nice specc :p |
| 18:31.15 | sylvanaar | we have 1 feral |
| 18:31.19 | Xinhuan | and the casual ones are like 2 feral 1 resto 1 boomkin |
| 18:31.25 | Grum | oh and they all fail on addons .. non of them use the right version of oRA .. or even use ctra >< |
| 18:31.31 | sylvanaar | im getting off-spec gear from 25man naxx |
| 18:31.45 | Xinhuan | aren't you a rogue sylvanaar |
| 18:31.53 | sylvanaar | im a resto druid |
| 18:32.14 | sylvanaar | for like ever |
| 18:32.38 | sylvanaar | i can often be a rogue in another sense |
| 18:33.09 | nevcairiel | yeah i have alot of feral off-spec gear as well |
| 18:33.19 | nevcairiel | drops everywhere |
| 18:33.22 | sylvanaar | heh, i even met you on beta Xinhuan |
| 18:33.40 | Xinhuan | hmm i'm not sure i remember ;p |
| 18:33.44 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 18:33.50 | nevcairiel | I need to spec feral again and finish loremaster in icecrown |
| 18:33.54 | sylvanaar | you were a mage |
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| 18:34.26 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1291 / (3 files in 2 directories): Fix a few BS patterns. |
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| 18:39.41 | viisual|work | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/12/29/wow-insider-show-episode-70-the-year-that-was/ - press play, is that really garbally for anyone else? |
| 18:40.20 | steev | viisual|work: ur internets suck |
| 18:40.37 | steev | the show sucks in general, but its not garbbally |
| 18:40.52 | viisual|work | Hey man, when your at work... anything I can cling to that reminds me of wow. |
| 18:41.17 | viisual|work | I DL'd it w/ iTunes it was garbally, I tried the direct mp3, still, and that page as well hrmm |
| 18:41.27 | viisual|work | Mac codec imo |
| 18:41.50 | steev | im at work |
| 18:42.04 | steev | *shrug* im listening to it in firefox on Ubuntu |
| 18:42.09 | steev | nfi what codec and so forth |
| 18:42.10 | viisual|work | trying firefox I guess |
| 18:42.21 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1292 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 18:42.23 | Repo | Add in proper filter checking for horde expedition and alliance vanguard. |
| 18:42.55 | Grum | Xinhuan: could you add something in gemhelper which can put whatever you have 'searched' into a JC link? |
| 18:42.55 | viisual|work | hrm |
| 18:43.10 | Xinhuan | requires too much work |
| 18:43.41 | Grum | howso? |
| 18:44.04 | viisual|work | ROFL |
| 18:44.09 | Xinhuan | lazy to map the bitfield |
| 18:44.11 | Xinhuan | you want to do it? |
| 18:44.24 | Grum | there is an addon with a lib for it already |
| 18:44.28 | viisual|work | steev, I had my headphones plugged in 1/2 of the way, so I only heard one channel =X |
| 18:44.30 | Grum | go abuse! ;D |
| 18:44.37 | Xinhuan | i don't want to ;p |
| 18:44.41 | Grum | DO IT! |
| 18:44.45 | Xinhuan | notice the addon is lib-less |
| 18:44.51 | Grum | or you'll get spanked |
| 18:44.53 | Grum | then copy ;D |
| 18:45.48 | steev | viisual|work: pebcak |
| 18:46.44 | viisual|work | rofl |
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| 18:49.31 | NeoTron | I need to install gemhelper again |
| 18:51.43 | Grum | i need something to do with those forest emeralds >< |
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| 18:52.04 | nevcairiel | sell them for 5g on the AH |
| 18:52.09 | Grum | already 100 uncut ones o.O |
| 18:52.11 | Grum | wont sell >< |
| 18:52.19 | Megalon | cut them |
| 18:52.22 | Megalon | and sell them for 50-60g |
| 18:52.40 | Grum | right |
| 18:52.45 | nevcairiel | cut forest emeralds that sell for 50g? |
| 18:52.46 | Grum | if people would buy them ;D |
| 18:52.49 | nevcairiel | what server live you on? =P |
| 18:52.51 | NeoTron | is forest emeral the new useless gem of BC? |
| 18:52.56 | nevcairiel | its green |
| 18:52.58 | NeoTron | I have honestly not looked at which blue is which :P |
| 18:53.00 | nevcairiel | green was always useless |
| 18:53.00 | Megalon | destromath eu :P |
| 18:53.05 | Megalon | haste/spirit |
| 18:53.08 | Megalon | hit/sta |
| 18:53.12 | NeoTron | it' |
| 18:53.22 | NeoTron | it's useful to fill a blue meta requirement |
| 18:53.30 | NeoTron | but not enough to make up for being 1/6th of all gems |
| 18:53.38 | nevcairiel | I use it in yellow slots as int+mp5 |
| 18:53.42 | Grum | hence i have 100 uncut left atm >< |
| 18:54.04 | NeoTron | I've gotte my JC character to 80 (last night) and JC skill to ~422 or so |
| 18:54.22 | NeoTron | haven't bothered planning what to do with my gem tokens although I got it recommended to buy a ring pattern to finishing skillups |
| 18:55.19 | Grum | selling dust is the most labour though :) |
| 18:55.38 | Grum | why bother getting skillups? |
| 18:55.56 | Grum | you need 430 for the blue gems :) |
| 19:03.43 | Grum | Xinhuan: the icons of the materials can be a bit bigger and slighly to the left (to compensate for them growing) |
| 19:04.22 | Grum | also the 'dropdown' button next to the 'That XXXX Can Cut' is out of position; almost smells like using the wrong offset point |
| 19:04.42 | Xinhuan | i can't change the icon size |
| 19:04.46 | Xinhuan | as it is embedded textures |
| 19:04.49 | Xinhuan | of the text itself |
| 19:04.59 | Xinhuan | if i make the text size bigger, it sucks |
| 19:05.17 | Grum | yeah already kinda cramped |
| 19:05.27 | Xinhuan | i also can't use a fixed size |
| 19:05.33 | Xinhuan | cos someone may use somethinglike clearfont |
| 19:05.47 | Grum | maybe add a selection method where you can select Vanilla/TBC/LK ? |
| 19:06.11 | Xinhuan | there are no vanila gems |
| 19:06.14 | Grum | you could put those checkboxes on the same line as 'Filter by Material' |
| 19:06.15 | Grum | oh true |
| 19:06.18 | Grum | then only 2 checkboxes :) |
| 19:06.24 | Xinhuan | i can't use dropdowns |
| 19:06.31 | Xinhuan | because people use them to shift-click to search AH |
| 19:06.45 | Xinhuan | or link the gem |
| 19:06.57 | Grum | nah i mean 'preselections' so you can show only parts of the 1000 possible selection |
| 19:07.09 | Xinhuan | that's what the up arrow button is for ;p |
| 19:07.12 | Xinhuan | in the corner |
| 19:07.29 | Grum | would still be nice to have a 'all blue gems' then :) |
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| 19:07.58 | Xinhuan | would have to rewrite the whole addon to do any kind of new UI |
| 19:08.05 | Xinhuan | sinec the filtering system is based on the checkbox ID |
| 19:08.25 | Grum | you could make 1 checkbox which toggles 6 other checkboxes? |
| 19:08.42 | Xinhuan | why |
| 19:08.47 | Xinhuan | could just search for blue gems |
| 19:08.51 | Xinhuan | in the "by colour" |
| 19:08.56 | Grum | i mean blue quality :P |
| 19:09.05 | pakoz | Is there a way to do a 'reverse' filter on wowhead. ie: i want to filter out things with: hit/int/spirit/etc |
| 19:09.14 | Xinhuan | didn't think it was necessary because the results are sorted by quality already |
| 19:09.18 | Xinhuan | so no quality filter |
| 19:09.22 | Grum | ah k |
| 19:09.29 | nevcairiel | pakoz: filter for items with 0 hit? |
| 19:09.44 | pakoz | ah, right |
| 19:09.50 | pakoz | how bout filter out things with deadly in them? |
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| 19:10.08 | Grum | humz |
| 19:10.12 | nevcairiel | that will probably not be as easy =P |
| 19:10.22 | Xinhuan | that's a bit asking for much ;p |
| 19:10.23 | Grum | for some reason the 'What XXXX Can Cut' doesnt properly filter here |
| 19:10.36 | pakoz | ah, |
| 19:10.39 | pakoz | resil = 0 |
| 19:10.57 | pakoz | it wont be perfect, but it'll do what i want |
| 19:11.08 | Xinhuan | grum, its probably messed up if you opened the JC window thru a tradelink |
| 19:11.14 | Grum | i didnt |
| 19:11.16 | Xinhuan | which i haven't fixed or worked around yet |
| 19:11.18 | Grum | i just did /gh |
| 19:11.23 | Xinhuan | whats wrong/correct about it |
| 19:11.30 | Grum | it shows nothing |
| 19:11.40 | Xinhuan | works fine for me? |
| 19:11.45 | Grum | i selected: 'filter by material' selected all the blue-qual LK gems |
| 19:11.47 | Xinhuan | turn off "Have Mats" ? |
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| 19:12.01 | Grum | then selected 'show JC gems' and 'That Xaroz Can Cut' |
| 19:12.04 | Grum | its turned off indeed |
| 19:12.21 | Xinhuan | which version do you have |
| 19:12.37 | Xinhuan | i only commited a version with rare gem data about 2 revisions ago |
| 19:12.57 | Xinhuan | and a version with meta gem data last revision |
| 19:13.17 | Xinhuan | so you probably need an update |
| 19:14.34 | Xinhuan | every gem is coded in manually ;p |
| 19:15.39 | Grum | let me try to reload ui |
| 19:15.48 | Grum | i just got the latest version |
| 19:16.16 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.29 | Xinhuan | its just the lack of data in your older version |
| 19:16.37 | Xinhuan | hence its alpha ;p |
| 19:16.37 | Grum | which is strange |
| 19:16.41 | Grum | i have had no old version ;D |
| 19:16.55 | Grum | i only had r70 |
| 19:16.57 | Xinhuan | no what i mean is, i didn't code in the rare gem data so nothing shows up |
| 19:17.10 | Grum | so why does it do now? O.o |
| 19:17.13 | Xinhuan | it doesn't read from your JC pane |
| 19:17.19 | Xinhuan | it reads from its internal db |
| 19:17.25 | Xinhuan | then sees what you have in your JC pane that matches |
| 19:17.34 | Xinhuan | not the other way around |
| 19:17.52 | Grum | meh lets put it at 'it did something silly and reloadui fixed it' :D |
| 19:18.06 | Xinhuan | so if the GH internal DB didn't have the rare gem data, it doesn't show up even if you can cut them ;p |
| 19:18.34 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:19.21 | Xinhuan | no because the data is hardcoded in, its meant for non-JCs as well to use |
| 19:19.31 | Xinhuan | i.e there is no JC panel for non-JCs |
| 19:19.45 | Xinhuan | but its still a gem database that is very much searchable |
| 19:19.53 | Xinhuan | hence all the data has to exist internally |
| 19:20.00 | Trell- | is there anyway at all you can get it to 'have mats' check from your bank too? |
| 19:20.03 | Xinhuan | no |
| 19:20.11 | Xinhuan | have mats is based off your JC panel |
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| 19:20.22 | Xinhuan | it reads your JC panel for that one |
| 19:20.25 | Trell- | I have an addon (forget which) that on tooltips says, for example: Dipity owned - 2 (1 bags, 1 bank) |
| 19:20.30 | Trell- | oh, ok. |
| 19:20.47 | Xinhuan | about 20 addons can do that trell |
| 19:20.52 | Xinhuan | including one of my own (BankItems) |
| 19:21.04 | Trell- | probably ArkInventory or Altaholic then :P |
| 19:21.15 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: I know that but as a stop gap it'd help |
| 19:21.17 | Trell- | Altaholic I'd guess since it adds other characters |
| 19:21.27 | Xinhuan | nah just not really part of my addon plan |
| 19:21.47 | NeoTron | Like in MagicDKP it should have the raids predefined but it also auto-learns so it remains useful for new content before I update it |
| 19:22.07 | Xinhuan | that's a bit useless since i dont' want to key in gem text search patterns |
| 19:22.18 | Xinhuan | remember in TBC how gems have different patterns |
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| 19:22.39 | Xinhuan | a gem could say "7 spell damage and 6 haste rating" |
| 19:22.49 | AckisWork | don't suppose anyone is a vet here? |
| 19:22.50 | Xinhuan | and another could say "7 spell damage, 6 haste rating" |
| 19:23.04 | Xinhuan | and another could say "6 haste rating and 7 spell damage" |
| 19:23.26 | Xinhuan | trying to code in these is terrible |
| 19:23.46 | Arrowmaster | which is why i always thought the best way to detect gems in gear was via itemlink parsing |
| 19:23.47 | Xinhuan | also the problem isn't really spell damage |
| 19:23.54 | Xinhuan | but what the problem was is healing |
| 19:24.06 | Xinhuan | because a gem that says "7 healing and 6 spirit" |
| 19:24.17 | Xinhuan | 7 healing doesn't add to damage |
| 19:24.21 | Xinhuan | but spell damage adds to healing |
| 19:24.25 | Xinhuan | that complicated things |
| 19:24.55 | Xinhuan | then another gem could say "7 damage and 4 healing and 6 spirit" |
| 19:25.07 | Xinhuan | but obviously the 4 healing portion was derived from 7 damage |
| 19:25.26 | Cheads | were there really gems that said that? |
| 19:25.27 | Cheads | evil |
| 19:25.31 | Xinhuan | so no, gem parsing wasn't the way to go |
| 19:25.33 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 19:25.35 | Arrowmaster | yes |
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| 19:29.25 | NeoTron | fair enough |
| 19:29.53 | Xinhuan | the gay ones were the instance specific epic gem drops |
| 19:29.56 | Xinhuan | their wording was different |
| 19:30.14 | Xinhuan | i remember one was "+7 healing and +6 resilience |
| 19:30.17 | Xinhuan | or somethinglike that |
| 19:30.19 | Xinhuan | with the "+" |
| 19:30.29 | Xinhuan | and they had different phrasing |
| 19:30.31 | Xinhuan | it was really gay |
| 19:30.42 | Xinhuan | trying to get them all to work with wowequip |
| 19:32.07 | Grum | right now you could do it |
| 19:32.11 | Grum | so stop slacking and add those gems |
| 19:32.21 | Xinhuan | the latest revision should have all gems |
| 19:32.27 | Xinhuan | r70 that is |
| 19:32.34 | Grum | got that one yeah |
| 19:32.55 | Xinhuan | 467 gems in total |
| 19:32.59 | Xinhuan | after taking out a few duplicate ones |
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| 19:48.54 | durcyn | gah, stupid linksys gigabit switch is negotiating 10Mb |
| 19:49.24 | Aiiane | lol |
| 19:49.53 | nevcairiel | half-duplex, too? :) |
| 19:51.50 | Shadowed | damn I missed the gem fuckery topic |
| 19:52.20 | Shadowed | Xinhuan: you don't need to do something like saving every single gem data |
| 19:52.21 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r117 / (12 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 27 lines) |
| 19:52.24 | Repo | - added new export format "EqDKP Strict" |
| 19:52.26 | Repo | 1) this has less changes from forks and should be used if the first eq option doesn't work |
| 19:52.28 | Shadowed | that's wayyyy more complicated than you need |
| 19:52.28 | Repo | 2) should be good to try for loganfive et.al. |
| 19:52.31 | Repo | - added HellbenderDKP and ItemLevelDKP for cost lookup |
| 19:52.51 | Xinhuan | suggest something better Shadowed |
| 19:53.07 | Shadowed | just don't be so picky in how you do matching |
| 19:53.10 | Shadowed | http://shadowed-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/GemQuota/localization.enUS.lua |
| 19:53.11 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.2.1 * r118 : Tagging as 2.2.1 |
| 19:53.29 | Xinhuan | that relies on local cache |
| 19:53.58 | Xinhuan | way back then, you couldn't just spam query the server ;p |
| 19:54.02 | Xinhuan | maybe its ok now |
| 19:54.42 | Xinhuan | but yeah, i have the basic assumption that the local cache of the player doesn't have it all, especially the instance drop gems |
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| 19:54.49 | Xinhuan | or the quest reward ones |
| 19:55.01 | Shadowed | pretty sure theres no quest reward, or instance drop gems anymore? |
| 19:55.04 | Xinhuan | there is |
| 19:55.07 | Shadowed | in WOTLK? |
| 19:55.14 | Xinhuan | not in wotlk |
| 19:55.17 | Xinhuan | but back in tbc there were |
| 19:55.20 | Shadowed | hence "anymore" :p |
| 19:55.38 | Xinhuan | hence without a total rewrite, i can't do much ;p |
| 19:55.45 | Xinhuan | and i don't think i have time for a total rewrite |
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| 19:56.18 | hanzzon | hi guys, do you know of any place that lists in what order quests should be done to follow the lore in WoW? |
| 19:56.20 | Xinhuan | getting a job hehe |
| 19:56.23 | Xinhuan | no longer a unit student |
| 19:56.25 | Xinhuan | uni* |
| 19:57.01 | Xinhuan | hanzzon: just do every quest |
| 19:57.03 | Xinhuan | and yuo'll be fine |
| 19:57.07 | Industrial | lol we got malygos down to 25% in phase 1 |
| 19:57.11 | Industrial | *flex* |
| 19:57.32 | Xinhuan | supposed to bring him down to 0 Industrial ;p |
| 19:57.36 | Xinhuan | to beat 5 min timer |
| 19:58.08 | hanzzon | Xinhuan: haha, sure, but I want them done in the "right" order, as it was I had done most quests for the Wyrmkin then I noticed I had skipped Stars*rest, and the last followup quest there was an introduction to the wyrmkin :P |
| 19:58.19 | Industrial | Xinhuan: 25man? |
| 19:58.25 | Xinhuan | both 10/25 Industrial |
| 19:58.28 | Xinhuan | have the achieement |
| 19:58.34 | Xinhuan | for 5 min malygos kill |
| 19:58.39 | nevcairiel | hanzzon: just dont run around and follow the NPCs :) |
| 19:58.42 | Xinhuan | you stack 5 sparks and kill all 5 at the same time |
| 19:58.53 | Xinhuan | to get a x1.5^5 damage multiplier |
| 19:58.55 | nevcairiel | if you follow the "go there and help them" quests, it usually guides you through lore |
| 19:59.04 | Xinhuan | yes they multiply |
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| 19:59.10 | Xinhuan | so a 10k crit becomes like 95k crit |
| 19:59.11 | Industrial | yeah i know they multiply |
| 19:59.14 | Industrial | best we had was 4 |
| 19:59.28 | Xinhuan | need 5 stacks or you won't be 5 min hehe |
| 19:59.29 | Industrial | but often not in meelee range :( |
| 19:59.35 | Xinhuan | beat* |
| 19:59.43 | hanzzon | ahh ok, no such site then, thnx anyway ;-) |
| 20:00.00 | Xinhuan | hanzzon, just make sure you finish one zone before moving on |
| 20:00.05 | Xinhuan | and also do grizzly before zuldrak |
| 20:00.13 | Xinhuan | as the lore continues from grizzly to zuldrak |
| 20:00.16 | Industrial | im halfway done with heroic raid achievements |
| 20:00.22 | Xinhuan | the other zones don't have any particular order |
| 20:01.00 | hanzzon | Xinhuan: thnx, I'm in Grizzly now |
| 20:01.37 | Xinhuan | you're good to go as long as you complete the X quests achievements in every zone |
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| 20:03.37 | Xinhuan | Whitetooth: [2008/12/30 02:41:23-8508-x1]: StatLogic-1.0-90221:6056: 'for' limit must be a number |
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| 20:03.52 | hanzzon | then I'll be level 80 when I've done Borean and Howling Fjord :P |
| 20:04.22 | Xinhuan | you should easily be 80 before touching Stormpeaks/Icecrown with half a zone uncomplete (either zuldrak or basin) |
| 20:05.03 | Xinhuan | storm peaks and ice crown are fully phasing zones btw |
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| 20:05.20 | Xinhuan | you need to do them all anyway to unlock reps and towns and phase them in |
| 20:06.34 | hanzzon | ok |
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| 20:10.23 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: how the heck do you get malygos down to 0 in phase 1? |
| 20:10.24 | Codayus | If you do everything in order, you'll ding 80 in Zuldrak with the Basin, Storm Peaks, and Icecrown untouched. |
| 20:12.01 | NeoTron | do the sparks last long enough to stack 5 tiems or are you saying keep 4 of them nailed down until the 5th one comes and then kill them all at once? |
| 20:12.23 | durcyn | you root the first three, kill them when the fourth gets positioned |
| 20:12.35 | durcyn | then drag the fifth/sixth in |
| 20:13.43 | NeoTron | so you need 3 druids :P |
| 20:13.57 | Gnarfoz | +hunters |
| 20:14.04 | hanzzon | Codayus: thnx |
| 20:14.08 | NeoTron | fair enough |
| 20:14.12 | Gnarfoz | also, you root 4, kill them when the 5th gets positioned :p |
| 20:14.14 | NeoTron | in a 10 man too? |
| 20:14.37 | Gnarfoz | need at least 5 I heard |
| 20:14.44 | NeoTron | kind of reminds me of the Azjol-Nerub achievement where ou had to use a really bizarre group makeup to get it done |
| 20:15.07 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: how many times have you done it? =P |
| 20:15.18 | NeoTron | and wouldn't melee DPS be significantly useless too? Being unabl eto assist in the phase 1-2 burndown |
| 20:15.29 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: how's that relevant |
| 20:15.50 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: that one just needs good dps and luck with Anub'arak's casts :O |
| 20:15.51 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: it's just that i have, and what i said works |
| 20:16.19 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: say that then instead of flaming me? what I said works too and is what you see in *every* video released so far. |
| 20:16.52 | durcyn | waiting for the 5th spark usually ends up delaying p2 by a good 30 seconds |
| 20:17.02 | durcyn | as it more often than not pushes you into another vortex |
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| 20:18.30 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: we did it with 5 dps so I wouldn't say "just good dps and luck" |
| 20:18.42 | NeoTron | but also a weird group that doesn't use healers and optionally doesn't use tanks :P |
| 20:19.11 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: the groups I've seen that resorted to having no dedicated healer ran in ilvl 200 blues/epics :\ |
| 20:19.27 | NeoTron | I was tanking as DPS spec in DPS gear on my DK |
| 20:19.46 | NeoTron | no healer (enhance shaman only one able to heal) |
| 20:19.52 | NeoTron | I mostly self healed myself |
| 20:20.09 | NeoTron | used 2xarmy of the dead for trash phase was pretty good too |
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| 20:25.11 | Grum | i just love raiding .. made 1000g during it ;) |
| 20:26.17 | Aiiane | hah |
| 20:26.33 | Grum | half a raid even |
| 20:26.45 | Grum | wish they gave me 15 mins halfway to restock the AH ;) |
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| 20:29.57 | EthanCentaurai | Tekkub: ping |
| 20:30.20 | Tekkub | wut |
| 20:31.05 | EthanCentaurai | Tekkub: some quests were removed from Dustwallow Marsh in 3.0. here's an updated 37-38 ally guide, minus said removed quests: http://www.wowace.com/paste/57/ |
| 20:31.22 | EthanCentaurai | just thought I'd let you know ;) |
| 20:31.53 | Tekkub | wow, no raw/download links, FAIL! |
| 20:32.07 | Tekkub | you can fork and submit on github you know, without ever installing git |
| 20:32.09 | EthanCentaurai | http://www.wowace.com/paste/57.txt |
| 20:32.13 | Tekkub | there is an online editor |
| 20:32.14 | EthanCentaurai | rawr |
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| 20:32.34 | Xinhuan | Tekkub, there's a "view raw" link |
| 20:32.37 | Xinhuan | at the top |
| 20:32.40 | Xinhuan | which you can use |
| 20:32.44 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 20:33.01 | Tekkub | god damnit, I hate that sub-menu bar thing |
| 20:33.09 | Tekkub | I only expect site nav up there |
| 20:33.37 | Xinhuan | but yeah that link would be the raw download |
| 20:33.40 | Grum | anyone know a good english -> chinese translator? :p |
| 20:33.50 | EthanCentaurai | ~x en ch Hi |
| 20:33.55 | Tekkub | Grum, go find yourself a goldseller |
| 20:33.56 | EthanCentaurai | dammit |
| 20:33.58 | Tekkub | *hides* |
| 20:34.03 | EthanCentaurai | :) |
| 20:34.13 | Grum | (that doesnt output unicode stuff? ^^ -- is that even possible? :D) |
| 20:34.17 | Fisker- | any ret pallies here btw? |
| 20:34.23 | Xinhuan | grum it does |
| 20:34.33 | Grum | it does be possible? |
| 20:34.40 | EthanCentaurai | ~x en zh hi |
| 20:34.53 | Xinhuan | that chinese word is pronounced "wei" |
| 20:35.02 | EthanCentaurai | no wei! :O |
| 20:35.09 | Xinhuan | which does mean "hi" ;p |
| 20:35.21 | Grum | i just want to explain that when i ask for: 'how many stacks' i get the right answer ;) |
| 20:35.24 | Xinhuan | it is a common one-word greeting when answering phone calls |
| 20:35.36 | EthanCentaurai | ~x en zh Tekkub is awesome |
| 20:35.46 | EthanCentaurai | Meh. |
| 20:35.53 | Xinhuan | lolz |
| 20:35.55 | Grum | ~x en zh how many stacks? |
| 20:35.57 | Grum | =D |
| 20:36.11 | AckisWork | ~x en zh sup dawg? |
| 20:36.14 | Xinhuan | both translations are actually correct in meaning |
| 20:36.31 | Xinhuan | sup isn't an english word, so it translated that wrongly |
| 20:36.34 | AckisWork | the Chinese don't have a word for dawg... wow lol |
| 20:36.46 | Xinhuan | ä¸å£ means "one mouth" literally |
| 20:36.51 | EthanCentaurai | ~x en zh what's up dog |
| 20:36.58 | Aiiane | oO |
| 20:37.09 | Aiiane | ~x en zh what is up dog |
| 20:37.10 | Xinhuan | ççs translates back as "dog's" |
| 20:37.15 | durcyn | kids these days. |
| 20:37.20 | Xinhuan | ä»ä¹æ¯ç --> what is a dog |
| 20:37.23 | Aiiane | :D |
| 20:37.38 | Gnarfoz | you probably want that in romanized form, anyway |
| 20:37.47 | NeoTron | man all i see is ???? :P |
| 20:37.53 | ckknight | Di Di Mao! |
| 20:37.55 | Grum | i can see it |
| 20:37.55 | Aiiane | l2font NeoTron |
| 20:37.56 | NeoTron | iso-8859-1 FTW |
| 20:37.57 | ckknight | Di Di Mao! |
| 20:38.05 | Grum | Xinhuan: how yo say: thank you in chinese? :) |
| 20:38.06 | Xinhuan | NeoTron, then your irc client sucks, make sure you enable utf8 in it |
| 20:38.06 | AckisWork | NeoTron: ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? |
| 20:38.10 | NeoTron | Aiiane: I'm intentionally not "utf-8" since I don't need UTF-8 |
| 20:38.12 | Xinhuan | "xie xie" |
| 20:38.24 | NeoTron | I can't read anything using characters outside iso-8859-1 anyway so why bother |
| 20:38.38 | nevcairiel | it looks cooler! |
| 20:38.39 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 20:38.42 | Xinhuan | you can tell which language most things are by seeing the symbols NeoTron |
| 20:38.48 | Aiiane | because at least you'll know what language you're being gibberished at with? |
| 20:38.57 | Xinhuan | japanese for eg, is different from korean or chinese |
| 20:39.01 | Gnarfoz | it's not gibberish to educated people :p |
| 20:39.07 | Xinhuan | and traditional chinese ~= simplified chinese |
| 20:39.10 | Grum | Xinhuan: i really need a basic training in chinese haha |
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| 20:39.37 | Xinhuan | i'm not going to bother, as every chinese word is uniquely written |
| 20:39.38 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: well I can for the most part tell them apart too but... I don't care? :) |
| 20:39.46 | Xinhuan | and there's some 7500 chinese words in total |
| 20:39.59 | Gnarfoz | I forgot all of the little chinese I "learned" for communicating with gold farmers back then :X |
| 20:40.00 | Xinhuan | chinese words then pair up to form more nouns |
| 20:41.04 | Grum | Xinhuan: what is 'bye' .. i think i just learned it is 'bai bai' .. is that right? o.O |
| 20:41.20 | Xinhuan | just means bye |
| 20:43.02 | Xinhuan | its one of those western words that got "chinesed" |
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| 20:43.46 | Grum | :) |
| 20:43.51 | Grum | humz i'm buying way to much ore >< |
| 20:43.52 | EthanCentaurai | ~x en zh fuck off you damn farmer, I'm not interested |
| 20:43.55 | Grum | already 120 stacks today |
| 20:44.15 | EthanCentaurai | purl hates apostrophes! |
| 20:44.20 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 20:44.34 | Xinhuan | æ»å¼æ¨å夫 --> go away you farmer |
| 20:44.47 | Xinhuan | 没æå
´è¶£çm --> not interested in your m |
| 20:45.04 | Aiiane | lol |
| 20:45.14 | EthanCentaurai | ~x en zh service |
| 20:45.17 | Grum | ok now you have to tell me |
| 20:45.21 | EthanCentaurai | makes a macro |
| 20:45.24 | Grum | how do you keep those chars apart? |
| 20:45.38 | Xinhuan | what do you mean |
| 20:45.53 | Grum | becayse .. meh i cant paste them |
| 20:45.57 | Grum | in the 'not intrested' |
| 20:46.09 | Grum | the 2nd and 4th char look like black blobs to me |
| 20:46.13 | Grum | hard to tell the difference |
| 20:46.16 | Xinhuan | if you are using mirc you need to enable utf8 in your fonts |
| 20:46.22 | Xinhuan | as well as your editbox |
| 20:46.29 | Grum | ah i dont have it in my edit box |
| 20:46.31 | Grum | where do i do that? |
| 20:46.51 | Xinhuan | view -> font -> display and encode -> utf8 |
| 20:47.01 | nevcairiel | isnt there a way to write chinese with default chars? :P |
| 20:47.13 | Xinhuan | yes, but you need microsoft IME installed for that |
| 20:47.16 | nevcairiel | like ni hao! |
| 20:47.18 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 20:47.19 | Grum | æ»å¼æ¨å夫 --> ...hmz |
| 20:47.21 | Grum | oh |
| 20:47.23 | Whitetooth | ä½ å¥½ |
| 20:47.25 | Grum | it works when i paste them |
| 20:47.26 | Gnarfoz | IME installed is lovely. |
| 20:47.33 | Xinhuan | Whitetooth: |
| 20:47.45 | Xinhuan | [2008/12/30 02:41:23-8508-x1]: StatLogic-1.0-90221:6056: 'for' limit must be a number |
| 20:48.00 | Grum | Xin: i dont see that option .. prolly me having and old mirc? |
| 20:48.08 | Grum | s/and/a/ |
| 20:48.10 | Gnarfoz | anything 6.x should work? |
| 20:48.13 | Xinhuan | view -> font -> UtF8 dropdown -> display and encode |
| 20:48.29 | nevcairiel | the editbox utf8 was fixed rather recently |
| 20:48.30 | Whitetooth | hmm |
| 20:48.33 | nevcairiel | in 6.3 or so |
| 20:48.41 | Grum | ah! |
| 20:48.45 | Xinhuan | make sure you actually use a font that works |
| 20:48.47 | Xinhuan | with utf8 |
| 20:48.56 | Grum | well this font works in chat |
| 20:48.58 | Grum | but not in my edit box |
| 20:49.02 | Grum | 没æå
´è¶£ç |
| 20:49.04 | Grum | ah now it does |
| 20:49.14 | Grum | æ趣 <-- those look virtually identical to me |
| 20:49.22 | nevcairiel | I see a difference |
| 20:49.24 | Grum | ok there are some pixels different; what is the trick to 'reading' them |
| 20:49.25 | Whitetooth | that means NUM_GLYPH_SLOTS isn't available |
| 20:49.36 | Xinhuan | you can't read them grum |
| 20:49.40 | Xinhuan | i told you chinese words are unique |
| 20:49.51 | Xinhuan | an extra few dots or lack of a dot == a totally new word |
| 20:50.00 | Aiiane | i think what he means is, what's the trick to telling them apart |
| 20:50.03 | Grum | yes but its nearly impossible to see the dots :) |
| 20:50.04 | Aiiane | when they're that small |
| 20:50.05 | Xinhuan | you stare at them |
| 20:50.08 | Grum | indeed tx Aii |
| 20:50.11 | Xinhuan | that's how chinese is |
| 20:50.11 | Grum | +ane |
| 20:50.17 | Xinhuan | you get used to it after a while |
| 20:50.22 | Xinhuan | Whitetooth, got a fix? |
| 20:51.02 | Grum | Xinhuan: i reckon based on the rough shape of the character you have key points you look at ? |
| 20:51.10 | Whitetooth | the fix is easy, just hard code 6, but thats strange |
| 20:51.12 | nevcairiel | i still think the western written language is way easier =P |
| 20:51.19 | Xinhuan | yes grum |
| 20:51.27 | Xinhuan | a chinese word is divided into parts |
| 20:51.33 | Xinhuan | but not all words follow the same parts |
| 20:51.44 | Xinhuan | some words don't even have parts |
| 20:51.45 | Whitetooth | NUM_GLYPH_SLOTS should be available as a global |
| 20:51.59 | Xinhuan | Whitetooth, not if the glpyh UI isn't loaded i think? |
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| 20:52.09 | Xinhuan | NUM_GLYPH_SLOTS == nil for me |
| 20:52.15 | Whitetooth | ok let me check again |
| 20:52.21 | Xinhuan | the glyph UI should be LoD blizzard addon |
| 20:52.33 | Xinhuan | and only gets loaded on opening spellbook i think |
| 20:53.14 | Megalon | hm |
| 20:53.16 | Xinhuan | so anyway, a chinese word can be thought of as having "left and right halves" |
| 20:53.17 | Grum | so Xinhuan what are symbols for xie xie? |
| 20:53.18 | Megalon | GetNumGlyphSockets() returns 8 for me :x |
| 20:53.26 | Xinhuan | often left halves are common |
| 20:53.27 | Grum | or the on symbol |
| 20:53.30 | Xinhuan | and mean something |
| 20:53.30 | Grum | *one |
| 20:53.34 | Whitetooth | your right |
| 20:53.40 | Xinhuan | or a word can also be divided into top/bottom halves |
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| 20:53.50 | Xinhuan | or a combination of left//top/bottom |
| 20:53.56 | Xinhuan | or more complicated |
| 20:54.01 | Grum | and then the top half is often common? |
| 20:54.08 | Grum | there is about 6000 glyphs right? |
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| 20:54.20 | Xinhuan | æ<-- has a top/bottom 趣 <-- has a left boat carrying a internal word |
| 20:54.37 | Xinhuan | the "left boat" actually is a word itself meaning "walk" |
| 20:55.06 | ckknight | I like having an alphabet |
| 20:55.07 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 20:55.14 | ckknight | granted, I wish our alphabet was better defined |
| 20:55.20 | ckknight | but still |
| 20:55.34 | Aiiane | Xinhuan: you're actually making me sort of want to learn chinese |
| 20:55.34 | Grum | actually opened wordpad there and put em on 60px ;D |
| 20:55.43 | Grum | Aiiane: same O.o |
| 20:55.45 | Aiiane | doubt i'll have the time for it for years |
| 20:55.48 | ckknight | (by that, I mean I wish one sound = one letter, even if it would require us to have more letters) |
| 20:55.50 | Grum | bloody intrested all of the sudden ;( |
| 20:55.52 | Aiiane | but it's interesting |
| 20:56.11 | Aiiane | ckknight: learn spanish |
| 20:56.12 | Aiiane | ;) |
| 20:56.16 | Xinhuan | that is, èµ°is a word |
| 20:56.26 | Xinhuan | as you can see, that is the left half of 趣 |
| 20:56.40 | Xinhuan | å |
| 20:56.53 | Xinhuan | being the right half |
| 20:57.05 | Aiiane | yeah, if i were trying to read chinese i think i'd want to about double my font size |
| 20:57.07 | Xinhuan | and combining them into 1 word yields a totally different meaning |
| 20:57.08 | EthanCentaurai | å = "halp I've falled from my ladder"? |
| 20:57.11 | Repo | 10statlogiclib: 03Whitetooth * r224 StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: - Fix error: 6056: 'for' limit must be a number |
| 20:57.13 | Grum | man that is just awesome o.o |
| 20:57.19 | nevcairiel | lol EthanCentaurai |
| 20:57.35 | Xinhuan | similarly, æ can be split into top/bottom |
| 20:57.45 | Whitetooth | å å å å å |
| 20:58.00 | ckknight | Aiiane: hrm, does Spanish have blended sounds (e.g. sh, th, ch, zh)? |
| 20:58.00 | Xinhuan | æ |
| 20:58.10 | Xinhuan | hmm that's not quite right |
| 20:58.12 | Jygga | wowui.worldofwar.net has a google safe browsing warning due to malicious code? ^^ |
| 20:58.16 | Grum | almost is |
| 20:58.23 | Aiiane | ckknight: not really |
| 20:58.28 | Xinhuan | å¿ |
| 20:58.31 | Grum | Xinhuan: do you know those chars by heart or are you looking them up as we speak? |
| 20:58.32 | Xinhuan | is the bottom half |
| 20:58.39 | Xinhuan | err i'm chinese |
| 20:58.45 | Aiiane | ckknight: a couple of them, yes |
| 20:58.52 | Grum | yeah still; you ahve to type them :p |
| 20:58.54 | Aiiane | ch it has |
| 20:58.57 | ckknight | Aiiane: cause I know those exist in Esperanto (including some sounds English doesn't have), they make up for it by inventing new letters |
| 20:59.00 | Xinhuan | digmouse referred people to me lol |
| 20:59.15 | Xinhuan | apparently, i'm known to the chinese authors/translators |
| 20:59.26 | Grum | :) |
| 20:59.26 | Xinhuan | in cwdg |
| 20:59.34 | Grum | so what is the tophalf? :) |
| 20:59.42 | Xinhuan | not too sure |
| 20:59.47 | Xinhuan | as you can see my chinese isn't too good |
| 20:59.52 | Xinhuan | as Whitetooth, he's taiwanese |
| 21:00.18 | Grum | humz .. not to good is something i'd like to achieve then ;D |
| 21:00.40 | Grum | so how are the rules for putting these into 'typable' words? (using ascii) |
| 21:00.45 | Grum | is it just phonetic? |
| 21:00.56 | ckknight | Aiiane: a b c Ä d e f g Ä h Ä¥ i j ĵ k l m n o p r s Å t u Å v z |
| 21:01.06 | Xinhuan | in order to type them in |
| 21:01.09 | Whitetooth | there are multiple ways of Chinese input |
| 21:01.16 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 21:01.30 | Repo | 10dkfight: 03viisual * r2 / (6 files in 1 directory): Test commit of initial code. |
| 21:01.37 | Grum | traditional is top->bottom; left->right isnt it? |
| 21:01.39 | Xinhuan | the most popular way is generally type how it sounds like in english, and you select it from a list of words that sound that way |
| 21:01.42 | Grum | or was it right->left .. hmz .< |
| 21:01.50 | Aiiane | ckknight: a, b, c, ch, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, l, ll, m, n, ñ, o, p, q, r, s, t, u, v, w, x, y, z |
| 21:01.51 | ckknight | Aiiane: or alternatively, a b c cx d e f g gx h hx i j jx k l m n o p r s sx t u ux v z |
| 21:01.52 | Aiiane | is spanish |
| 21:02.05 | ckknight | curse you, double-l |
| 21:02.10 | ckknight | you make llamas sound funny |
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| 21:02.16 | Xinhuan | that is, å夫 would be typed as "nongfu<space>" |
| 21:02.17 | Aiiane | haha |
| 21:02.20 | ckknight | "yama" |
| 21:02.20 | ckknight | what's with that? |
| 21:02.20 | ckknight | psh |
| 21:02.20 | Aiiane | yamas? |
| 21:02.22 | Xinhuan | which is how it sounds like |
| 21:02.34 | ckknight | Aiiane: that's how it should be pronounced :-P |
| 21:02.40 | Xinhuan | you can also enter chinese words in the way each stroke of the word is written |
| 21:02.50 | Xinhuan | 夫has 4 strokes |
| 21:03.00 | Aiiane | ckknight: y is more defined in spanish though |
| 21:03.02 | Xinhuan | there's other ways |
| 21:03.08 | ckknight | Aiiane: yea |
| 21:03.10 | Whitetooth | ãã¨ã¥Ë ã㨠|
| 21:03.11 | Aiiane | ll has that version of the y sound |
| 21:03.18 | Aiiane | whereas y is a different sound |
| 21:03.30 | ckknight | Xinhuan: wasn't the Chinese writing system invented by guys getting high and reading cracks in stone or something? |
| 21:03.31 | Whitetooth | this is what I use to input 農夫 |
| 21:03.40 | Xinhuan | also å夫 is 2 words, but combined together to form 1 noun |
| 21:03.58 | Grum | ok .. thats it .. i'm going to find a course somewhere |
| 21:03.58 | Xinhuan | taken separately, each word is a noun in itself |
| 21:04.31 | nevcairiel | http://farm1.static.flickr.com/14/17023214_7722c7e5cb.jpg?v=0 |
| 21:04.32 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 21:04.38 | exor674 | when you say "taken seperately" that way -- they sound like pills |
| 21:04.53 | Xinhuan | å夫 --> farmer, å -> farm, 夫 -> a person of some profession |
| 21:05.10 | Aiiane | farm worker, basically |
| 21:05.14 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 21:05.25 | EthanCentaurai | is a furry fuck夫 |
| 21:05.31 | EthanCentaurai | valid? |
| 21:05.32 | Grum | humz anyone has a chinese course? ;D |
| 21:06.04 | Aiiane | this is the internet |
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| 21:06.13 | Aiiane | i am sure that google will reward you |
| 21:06.13 | Xinhuan | go google |
| 21:06.14 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 21:06.29 | Aiiane | it might also try to sell you things |
| 21:06.31 | AckisWork | ~x en zh penis |
| 21:06.38 | AckisWork | tehehe |
| 21:06.44 | Xinhuan | crude |
| 21:07.03 | exor674 | ~x zh en é´è |
| 21:07.06 | Aiiane | i shouldn't be, but im curious what those two characters are separately |
| 21:07.12 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 21:07.36 | Gnarfoz | exor674: purl doesn't take utf-8 input :( |
| 21:08.40 | exor674 | translating seperately, yam stem |
| 21:08.46 | Aiiane | ...bahaha |
| 21:08.56 | Xinhuan | Aiiane |
| 21:08.57 | Xinhuan | http://www.google.com.sg/translate_dict?q=%E9%98%B4&langpair=zh|en&hl=en&sa=X&oi=translation&ct=result |
| 21:09.08 | Xinhuan | because there is only 7500 chinese words |
| 21:09.18 | Xinhuan | every word generally has about 5-10 different meanings |
| 21:09.23 | Xinhuan | and has to be read in context |
| 21:09.31 | Aiiane | nods |
| 21:09.36 | Xinhuan | as you can see, that word on the left has 7 meanings |
| 21:09.53 | Xinhuan | and can be combined with other nouns to form a compound noun |
| 21:10.12 | Aiiane | the one on the right appears to have a single meaning, at least as far as google knows |
| 21:10.16 | Whitetooth | oh there are more then 7500 |
| 21:10.59 | Aiiane | stem/stalk |
| 21:11.21 | Xinhuan | only in traditional chinese ;p |
| 21:11.24 | Xinhuan | once simplified |
| 21:11.35 | Xinhuan | many different words combine into the same simplified chinese word |
| 21:11.47 | Whitetooth | like 60000 traditional :p |
| 21:12.01 | Aiiane | so basically, "hidden stem" or "nether stem" |
| 21:12.16 | Xinhuan | consider this Aiiane |
| 21:12.16 | Xinhuan | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character#Comparisons_of_Traditional.2C_Simplified_and_Kanji |
| 21:12.34 | Xinhuan | that contains a table containing the differences between 3 different chinese versions |
| 21:12.44 | Xinhuan | traditional chinese, simplfied chinese, and japanese |
| 21:13.04 | Xinhuan | as you can see, the simplfied version contains waaaay less strokes |
| 21:13.26 | Aiiane | nods |
| 21:13.46 | Xinhuan | and a lot of traditional words are made redundant as they all simplify to the same simplfied chinese word |
| 21:13.59 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: whats the word for "baby"? |
| 21:14.02 | Xinhuan | like who really wants to memorize all 65000 words |
| 21:14.31 | Xinhuan | å©´å© |
| 21:14.58 | Stanzilla | å° å° å©´å© |
| 21:15.00 | Stanzilla | lolz |
| 21:15.02 | Xinhuan | "It is usually said that about 3,000 characters are needed for basic literacy in Chinese (for example, to read a Chinese newspaper), and a well-educated person will know well in excess of 4,000 to 5,000 characters." |
| 21:15.31 | exor674 | what are literacy rates like in china? |
| 21:15.33 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: so you know 1000? |
| 21:15.36 | Xinhuan | In the People's Republic of China, which uses Simplified Chinese characters, the Xià ndà i Hà nyÇ Chángyòng ZìbiÇo |
| 21:15.41 | Xinhuan | hart of Common Characters of Modern Chinese) lists 2,500 common characters and 1,000 less-than-common characters, |
| 21:15.48 | Xinhuan | while the Xià ndà i Hà nyÇ TÅngyòng ZìbiÇo |
| 21:15.54 | Xinhuan | Chart of Generally Utilized Characters of Modern Chinese) lists 7,000 characters, including the 3,500 characters already listed above. |
| 21:16.04 | Aiiane | Xinhuan: of course, the tradeoff is that once you know the characters, you don't have as hard of a time deciphering words |
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| 21:16.18 | thul | norwegian muslims make me understand israeli police officers that much more :-P |
| 21:16.28 | Aiiane | since the character/word meanings are basically interleaved |
| 21:16.30 | Xinhuan | its generally accepted to be about 7000+ words |
| 21:16.52 | Xinhuan | The Chinese Standard Interchange Code (CNS11643)âthe official national encoding standardâsupports 48,027 characters, while the most widely-used encoding scheme, BIG-5, supports only 13,053. - for traditional chinese |
| 21:17.09 | Gnarfoz | :O 48k |
| 21:17.10 | exor674 | ... why am I eating soup with a fork? |
| 21:17.19 | Gnarfoz | exor674: excess stupidity |
| 21:17.38 | Xinhuan | its actually a problem because rare chinese words often aren't encoded in any chinese computer encoding at all |
| 21:18.06 | Xinhuan | read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_character#Rare_and_complex_characters |
| 21:18.41 | Xinhuan | see 3rd paragraph for most complex character in chinese ;p |
| 21:18.50 | NeoTron | just not a very scalable system, that's for sure |
| 21:18.56 | Xinhuan | and 4th paragraph |
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| 21:19.34 | Xinhuan | but honestly, they should just kill chinese and dumb it down from 65k words to 7k |
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| 21:21.29 | AckisWork | 14:19Xinhuanbut honestly, they should just kill chinese |
| 21:21.31 | AckisWork | wow... |
| 21:21.32 | AckisWork | just wow |
| 21:21.43 | Whitetooth | why not just use english then |
| 21:21.51 | Xinhuan | exactly ;p |
| 21:22.27 | exor674 | I think we should all use gnomish! |
| 21:22.29 | Xinhuan | but if you know both english and chinese, you would be knowing the 2 most used languages in the world |
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| 21:25.07 | Xinhuan | thing is if you know the english alphabet, you can probably pronounce half the languages in the world ;p |
| 21:25.33 | nevcairiel | not really |
| 21:25.46 | Cairenn|afk | Ackis: you already have ownership of it on WoWI |
| 21:25.53 | Xinhuan | well not with accuracy of course |
| 21:25.56 | Xinhuan | but fairly close |
| 21:25.58 | AckisWork | Cairenn|afk: I know, I was just following up |
| 21:26.12 | Cairenn|afk | and why aren't you in the lounge any more, almost thought you weren't on to ping about it :p |
| 21:26.30 | Cairenn|afk | pouts |
| 21:26.30 | Xinhuan | ps, he's skiving off work cairenn ;p |
| 21:26.40 | AckisWork | nah I emoed out one day |
| 21:27.22 | nevcairiel | makes AckisWork emo out of this channel too |
| 21:27.30 | AckisWork | wow nev, just wow :( |
| 21:27.34 | nevcairiel | hm what did we do last time |
| 21:27.38 | nevcairiel | trys to remember |
| 21:27.50 | AckisWork | banned me :P |
| 21:28.01 | Xinhuan | he and someone had a internet argument ;p |
| 21:28.07 | Arrowmaster | probably me |
| 21:28.10 | AckisWork | no |
| 21:28.11 | Megalon | Xinhuan: spanish and hindi are > english i think ;> |
| 21:28.14 | nevcairiel | i think tekkub |
| 21:28.17 | Xinhuan | i think it was tekkub |
| 21:28.17 | AckisWork | aye |
| 21:28.22 | AckisWork | and I got banned :P |
| 21:28.52 | Repo | 10mountiful: 03Jomar * r32 Mountiful.lua: Mountiful: |
| 21:28.55 | Repo | - fix for smart mounting and mounts that change depending on skill/location |
| 21:29.04 | Xinhuan | what another mount addon? |
| 21:29.59 | Xinhuan | we should get like a new category for mount addons lol |
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| 21:30.42 | nevcairiel | wanders off to play World of Goo |
| 21:30.59 | Aiiane | you know nevcairiel, that' |
| 21:31.07 | Aiiane | d be awesome as a euphemism |
| 21:31.36 | nevcairiel | whatnow |
| 21:31.48 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: or atleast for mount/companion addons since they are perty similair |
| 21:33.40 | Camci | anyone use TrinketMenu ? |
| 21:34.25 | Xinhuan | used to, 3 years ago |
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| 21:34.38 | Xinhuan | but trinket swapping in combat killed its usefulness, just use swapmagic now |
| 21:35.08 | Camci | do you know why when everytime i log in the trinkets are hidden? have to press the buttont o show the trinkets |
| 21:35.22 | Xinhuan | no |
| 21:35.43 | Camci | kuy :p |
| 21:35.52 | AckisWork | you can swap trinkets in combat? |
| 21:35.57 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 21:35.58 | Stanzilla | no |
| 21:36.00 | Camci | nope |
| 21:36.05 | AckisWork | ok whew |
| 21:36.06 | AckisWork | :P |
| 21:36.14 | Camci | heh :p |
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| 21:39.23 | Fisker- | First i were like http://i41.tinypic.com/2ywcyf9.jpg |
| 21:39.33 | Fisker- | Then they were like: http://i43.tinypic.com/6ydrtu.jpg |
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| 21:40.07 | Camci | XD |
| 21:40.48 | Camci | ticket ! |
| 21:41.25 | Arrowmaster | Fisker-: not like you were going to kill him before he enraged anyway |
| 21:41.40 | Aiiane | lolded |
| 21:42.10 | Aiiane | 30 seconds for 16% |
| 21:43.22 | Megalon | there goes fisker |
| 21:43.24 | Megalon | from hero to zero :( |
| 21:43.33 | Megalon | in 7 seconds |
| 21:43.58 | NeoTron | Thaddius in 25 man was a bit tricky... with 22 people |
| 21:44.10 | NeoTron | until some of the less gifted learned to move |
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| 21:52.12 | steev | pvp gear is pretty fail |
| 21:52.12 | AckisWork | I want to get it to... pvp? |
| 21:52.12 | Fisker- | pvp sucks Ackis |
| 21:52.12 | steev | deadly is, if i recall correctly, for all intents and purposes ~= t7 and hateful ~= t7.5 |
| 21:52.12 | viisual|work | No i signed off from home ;( |
| 21:52.12 | AckisWork | it does but what else am I supposed to do? |
| 21:52.12 | steev | or its vice versa |
| 21:52.12 | AckisWork | I'm almost at honor cap (whee)... need to spend points somewhere |
| 21:52.13 | steev | personally, im a scrub so its savage gladiator for me! |
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| 21:52.13 | steev | but damn it, savage looks so much better imo |
| 21:52.13 | steev | their artist needs to pull his head out of his ass |
| 21:52.13 | steev | stop making the badass gear look like complete shit |
| 21:52.30 | steev | i suppose when you raid nonstop you don't care what the gear looks like anymore |
| 21:52.47 | EthanCentaurai | the kubrick server failed |
| 21:53.04 | AckisWork | ahh the honor gear requires me to get arena rating... lame |
| 21:53.04 | EthanCentaurai | I guess freenode's servers have caught the winter colds too :P |
| 21:53.37 | thul | http://fc23.deviantart.com/fs39/f/2008/364/0/4/04c22cdab440b05d0a00198cacccb065.jpg <- oh my :-P (nsfw) |
| 21:53.37 | sztanpet | nothing to do with the servers the global notice said |
| 21:55.23 | AckisWork | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42122 is that 50k or 25k honor? O_o |
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| 21:55.48 | viisual|work | I don't think anything < 37k honor |
| 21:55.57 | viisual|work | and that's the hateful ring. |
| 21:58.13 | AckisWork | ahh http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=30488 = NYI |
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| 21:59.26 | Pneumatus | he's on the PTR iirc |
| 22:00.04 | Fisker- | he was on beta as well |
| 22:00.48 | viisual|work | Yea, he doesn't have items on live... wish he did =P |
| 22:01.13 | erica647 | Hi |
| 22:01.40 | viisual|work | Hi |
| 22:02.11 | erica647 | Finally got 64-bit flash working on my 64-bit FireFox in Linux... I be happy |
| 22:03.27 | viisual|work | But... is it 64-bit vista or xp? |
| 22:03.51 | erica647 | Huh? Me no Winders ok? |
| 22:03.54 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1293 / (15 files in 3 directories): Data regenerate, add PVP flags for pvp JC recipes |
| 22:04.15 | viisual|work | Assumption based on general usage |
| 22:04.22 | erica647 | Understand |
| 22:04.52 | erica647 | I used to be a Windows user... but the therapy is helping |
| 22:04.54 | Curses | Hey, can anyone recommend a dot timer mod that is not DoTimer ;) |
| 22:05.22 | viisual|work | Curses, I've never found one I liked, aside from ClassTimers, but that was 2.4.3 |
| 22:05.23 | erica647 | I used to use Sorren's on my hunter and loved it |
| 22:05.58 | Curses | yea I tried classtimers but it didn't seem to track the dot when I wan't targeting something |
| 22:06.11 | Curses | and as a paladin I rarely keep who I am healing targeted |
| 22:06.18 | erica647 | Sorren's was the only one that seemed to work correctly with hunter traps |
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| 22:06.35 | Codayus | Hm, what are you trying to track? |
| 22:06.55 | Curses | sacred shield and beacon |
| 22:06.58 | erica647 | I wanted to track both the timer of when the trap would expire after being triggered |
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| 22:07.11 | erica647 | and if it wasn't triggered so I'd know when I needed to set another |
| 22:07.24 | Curses | yea |
| 22:07.26 | erica647 | It's great for heroics |
| 22:07.38 | Curses | I just don't like the format of DoTimer |
| 22:08.01 | erica647 | I always got errors whenever I tried to use dotimer... but it's been a while |
| 22:08.12 | Curses | yea I guess I will make do |
| 22:08.33 | erica647 | Right now, I don't even use one |
| 22:08.44 | erica647 | I got tired of fighting with them |
| 22:11.21 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r4879 Naxxramas (12 files in 1 directory): frFR Update |
| 22:13.25 | Xinhuan | lol wowui website google search results is returning a "This site may harm your computer" |
| 22:13.34 | Torhal_ | Heh |
| 22:14.04 | Codayus | Probably accurate. :-( |
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| 22:14.12 | erica647 | Is that a virus scanner msg or an html msg? |
| 22:15.22 | erica647 | I just tried it and it worked fine |
| 22:17.04 | Aiiane | the most annoying thing about that page that google throws up |
| 22:17.14 | Aiiane | is that it doesn't have even a tiny link to go to the page anyways |
| 22:18.35 | ckknight | hey |
| 22:18.42 | ckknight | I have a question... |
| 22:19.10 | ckknight | who here would mind if I forced people to release their translations as public domain if they use the localizer app? |
| 22:20.01 | AckisWork | would |
| 22:20.03 | pastamancer | that really seems to be the only way to do it |
| 22:20.11 | AckisWork | oh translations |
| 22:20.12 | Pneumatus | isnt there always an issue with translations that people may/do translate the same phrases differently? |
| 22:20.13 | AckisWork | dur |
| 22:20.18 | AckisWork | ~last self |
| 22:20.22 | AckisWork | bah |
| 22:20.25 | ckknight | Pneumatus: that's what the context field is for. |
| 22:20.44 | ckknight | Pneumatus: but yea, but that's for the people with funny accents to bicker over |
| 22:20.56 | Pneumatus | ckknight: im sure i've seen translator wars over the same context in a single addon |
| 22:21.38 | ckknight | well, I also want to have "Suggestions" for the localizer app, if one project localizes "None" as "Keiner", it can suggest that |
| 22:21.48 | ckknight | even if it's a different project |
| 22:21.55 | ckknight | it'd be marked as needing review, of course |
| 22:22.11 | Pneumatus | of course, the idea of PD'ing translations sounds great from a non-translator author :) |
| 22:22.20 | sylvanaar | oh oh oh, you know what you could do |
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| 22:22.33 | sylvanaar | use that google thing for micro work |
| 22:22.37 | sylvanaar | whats it called |
| 22:22.43 | sylvanaar | amazon i mean |
| 22:22.56 | Codayus | Mechanical Turk |
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| 22:23.55 | Pneumatus | the idea of being able to ditch babble* is also a nice idea :> |
| 22:24.03 | ckknight | Pneumatus: that's not the idea here. |
| 22:24.05 | ckknight | at all |
| 22:24.20 | ckknight | so you know |
| 22:24.42 | AckisWork | if anything I could see more babble's come out of this |
| 22:24.46 | AckisWork | "babble-common" |
| 22:24.50 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r162 / (3 files in 1 directory): RaidBuffStatus: |
| 22:24.53 | Repo | - Fixed weapon buffing as only Rogues, Locks and Shaman can do it with lvl 80 weapons. |
| 22:24.56 | ckknight | AckisWork: eh, no |
| 22:24.58 | sylvanaar | mturk.com |
| 22:25.09 | Aiiane | ackis does enough babbling for all our addons |
| 22:25.16 | ckknight | we're keeping Babble to things that exist in the Blizzard world but they're too shitty to give us nice translations |
| 22:25.19 | AckisWork | ckknight: I would hope not, but I'll bet you 1 gold that someone submits that :P |
| 22:25.23 | viisual|work | My IRC is named 'babbel' |
| 22:25.25 | ckknight | and I will decline it. |
| 22:25.31 | AckisWork | Aiiane: lol :P |
| 22:25.32 | Xinhuan | ckknight, i'm not sure what you mean by making translations PD |
| 22:25.37 | Xinhuan | can you be specific |
| 22:25.39 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.41-beta * r163 : RaidBuffStatus: |
| 22:25.42 | AckisWork | ckknight: not if I do first ahaha |
| 22:25.42 | Repo | - Fixed weapon buffing as only Rogues, Locks and Shaman can do it with lvl 80 weapons. |
| 22:25.54 | ckknight | Xinhuan: if you're a translator, you'd say that the translations you specify are public domain |
| 22:26.20 | Xinhuan | meaning my copyright clause doesn't apply on those translation files? |
| 22:26.32 | ckknight | that'd be the idea |
| 22:26.42 | ckknight | though actually it could |
| 22:26.46 | ckknight | since it'd be irrelevant |
| 22:26.57 | steev | wait what? |
| 22:27.02 | ckknight | I could take "Yankee Doodle", sing it and call it mine |
| 22:27.05 | steev | how do you copyright translations? |
| 22:27.07 | ckknight | granted, you could do the same thing |
| 22:27.28 | ckknight | steev: you can if it's a body of work, much as you can copyright a recipe book but not a recipe |
| 22:27.38 | Pneumatus | as it stands, translations would be protected by the project it's part of |
| 22:27.43 | Aiiane | generally you're copyrighting the content of the recipe book |
| 22:27.55 | Aiiane | not the translations of the phrases |
| 22:28.18 | ckknight | it's legally gray as to whether translations themselves can be copyrighted |
| 22:28.30 | ckknight | in any event, I'm not taking any chances. |
| 22:28.34 | Xinhuan | translations are just "phrases" right? |
| 22:28.42 | ckknight | Xinhuan: correct |
| 22:28.50 | Xinhuan | they can only be trademarked, not copyrghted? |
| 22:28.56 | ckknight | legally gray. |
| 22:29.06 | ckknight | a phrase can be a poem |
| 22:29.09 | ckknight | which can be copyrighted |
| 22:29.14 | AckisWork | ckknight: it would be a database of translations that you would copyright wouldn't it? |
| 22:29.16 | Mech0z | any mod that can track when a 45sec trinket have proced and show cd remaining? |
| 22:29.18 | sylvanaar | if they are asked to translate the phrase vs edit a file its differrent |
| 22:29.19 | steev | maybe, maybe not - not like anyone is going to take anyone to court over a wow addon |
| 22:29.27 | Xinhuan | legally gay |
| 22:29.33 | viisual|work | ^ |
| 22:29.38 | steev | Mech0z: i use trinketmenu still |
| 22:29.45 | ckknight | sylvanaar: well, I'm going to allow people to upload files of translations/. |
| 22:29.46 | steev | or do you mean an internal cooldown? |
| 22:29.48 | ckknight | so... |
| 22:29.53 | Mech0z | yes |
| 22:29.57 | Mech0z | it has a 45 sec hidden cd |
| 22:30.01 | Mech0z | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42990#comments |
| 22:30.04 | Aiiane | ckknight: but if you only make available the translated version when the original version is input |
| 22:30.06 | Mech0z | for arena, so I know when to open on them |
| 22:30.11 | Codayus | Any given translation wouldn't be copyrightable. An entire file of translations probably is. Either way, making them public domain (or some other license, creative commons, GNU Free Doc license, whatever) seems extremely sensible... |
| 22:30.13 | Aiiane | then you aren't actually providing any new /content/ |
| 22:30.25 | ckknight | Aiiane: true, it's a derivitive work |
| 22:30.40 | ckknight | Codayus: PD is cleaner than dealing with GNU |
| 22:31.07 | Aiiane | and thus the license to the original work is a separate matter |
| 22:31.12 | Codayus | Indeed, I wasn't arguing in favor of something other than PD. |
| 22:31.16 | doom0r | RMS notm showing for a week is cleaner than GNU licenses |
| 22:31.23 | Aiiane | and cross-project would be more an issue of whether they had the license to use the original, untranslated phrase in the first place |
| 22:31.26 | doom0r | s/notm showing/not showering/ |
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| 22:31.47 | sylvanaar | i hate OS liscense crap so much |
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| 22:32.39 | steev | i wouldn't mind the 90 str trinket fromt hem |
| 22:32.41 | ckknight | basically, by forcing it all to PD, I'll be able to cross-reference and suggest translations without legal worries |
| 22:32.50 | sylvanaar | there should be a "Just Dont Be A Jerk" liscense |
| 22:32.52 | doom0r | anybody have any experience with way too much cpu time use by wow even with no addons enabled? |
| 22:33.06 | ckknight | note that I do plan to give proper credit to translators |
| 22:33.22 | Codayus | The last thing you want is to get crosswise with someone saying "hey, this translation I made for Addon X can't be used for Y, your stealing my translation, I got into a fight with Addon X author and I don't want anyone using my translation" or whatever. And I can't imagine a translator refusing to provide a translation BECAUSE it will be PD, so ...win win! |
| 22:33.46 | doom0r | sylvanaar: the CC is probably closest |
| 22:34.02 | ckknight | Codayus: correct |
| 22:34.17 | Codayus | doom0r: CC isn't relevant for programs, is it? Or am I confusing it withsomething else again? |
| 22:34.24 | Xinhuan | can you explain why you think PD is neccesary? |
| 22:34.29 | doom0r | no, it's not, that's the problem Codayus |
| 22:34.39 | Codayus | Yep. :-( |
| 22:35.22 | ckknight | Xinhuan: because otherwise some translator is going to bitch eventually about sharing translations. |
| 22:36.29 | ckknight | Xinhuan: and I don't want to put license logic into my translation sharing system |
| 22:36.31 | sylvanaar | just have them translate strings without knowing what addon they are from |
| 22:36.38 | ckknight | no, sylvanaar |
| 22:36.44 | ckknight | since context is an important part of translations |
| 22:36.56 | ckknight | and why would translators do that willy-nilly? |
| 22:37.01 | ckknight | they need incentive |
| 22:37.18 | ckknight | i.e. to make their favorite addon in their local tongue |
| 22:37.33 | sylvanaar | ah |
| 22:38.20 | sylvanaar | so how will that retain context when reused |
| 22:39.07 | Xinhuan | aha, so if translator submissions are deemed as PD |
| 22:39.15 | Xinhuan | any author can use them freely without worries, yeah? |
| 22:39.26 | ckknight | sylvanaar: it won't, it'll be a suggestion that is marked as "Needs review" |
| 22:39.42 | ckknight | Xinhuan: that's the idea, I plan on having auto-suggested translations |
| 22:39.48 | sylvanaar | gotcha |
| 22:39.56 | Pneumatus | ckknight: will the new translation system eliminate the need for AceLocale or similar, and provide localised addons with all the localisations embedded? |
| 22:40.07 | ckknight | no, Pneumatus |
| 22:40.11 | ckknight | that is absolutely not part of the plan |
| 22:40.25 | ckknight | in fact, AceLocale-3.0 will be an export format that we will support |
| 22:40.39 | Pneumatus | what advantage does it have then? |
| 22:41.06 | exor674 | keeping translators from fucking up important lua-y bits? |
| 22:41.25 | Xinhuan | actually |
| 22:41.31 | Xinhuan | translators can't really fuck them up much now |
| 22:41.32 | ckknight | translators should never fuck around in the repos |
| 22:41.36 | steev | Mech0z: the only addon i knew of that even tracked procs like that was procodile |
| 22:41.38 | ckknight | Xinhuan: sure they can |
| 22:41.39 | Xinhuan | because the commit hook prevents them from failing |
| 22:41.57 | Xinhuan | usually missing commas or " |
| 22:41.57 | steev | and im not sure if it would notify that the internal cd was up |
| 22:42.00 | ckknight | well, yes, but they could do other bad things unintentionally, Xinhuan |
| 22:42.00 | Xinhuan | break them, but the commit hook checks that now |
| 22:42.06 | ckknight | in any event, this is to make things easier for everyone |
| 22:42.12 | sylvanaar | at least the compile time errors |
| 22:42.19 | steev | installing wotlk via usb 1.1 sucks |
| 22:42.32 | sylvanaar | i bet steev just now getting it installed? |
| 22:42.37 | doom0r | hands steev a very sharp razor |
| 22:42.39 | steev | nah |
| 22:42.42 | steev | "new" laptop |
| 22:42.48 | steev | its a thinkpad t30 |
| 22:43.03 | sylvanaar | i think you didnt get the joke |
| 22:43.17 | sylvanaar | or it was prolly bad |
| 22:43.23 | steev | sylvanaar: its still only at 75% :-P |
| 22:43.50 | steev | it was bad - but i got it - release til now to get it installed |
| 22:43.56 | steev | its only been about 2 1/2 hours |
| 22:44.00 | doom0r | anyone here using an E6400 in xp 32bit? |
| 22:44.03 | steev | 76%! |
| 22:44.25 | exor674 | steev: be glad its not over a 56k modem :P |
| 22:44.53 | steev | exor674: well it would be if i was still using the "networking" on it - not sure wtf the deal is |
| 22:45.20 | steev | sometimes it works fine, others it slows to 33.6 speeds |
| 22:46.21 | Mech0z | steev maybe I should try to make my first mod then^^ recon its not THAT hard to read combatlog for a event and then start a 45sec timer and show that on screen |
| 22:49.49 | sylvanaar | ckknight did you describe your app somewhere already? |
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| 22:51.00 | ckknight | authors specify the english phrases they want translated. Random schmucks with funny accents fill in the correct translations on the website. Author exports, commits to repo. Everyone is happy. |
| 22:55.50 | ckknight | ...you want to make people happy, right? |
| 22:56.12 | ckknight | or are you just a jerk like Aiiane? |
| 22:56.17 | ckknight | (she's devious) |
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| 22:56.37 | AckisWork | http://www.soullessguild.org/ <-- is that sexy or not? |
| 22:56.45 | viisual|work | sfw? |
| 22:56.49 | AckisWork | yes |
| 22:56.55 | Repo | 10gathermate_data: 03kagaro 04v1.22 * r121 : GatherMate_Data: weekly update |
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| 22:57.09 | Antiarc | The background tiling mildly annoys me |
| 22:57.10 | ckknight | what's with the huge image at the top? |
| 22:57.16 | ckknight | it provides me no useful info |
| 22:57.34 | AckisWork | the banner is the default one right now... it's gay |
| 22:57.48 | Aiiane | h8 noisy backgrounds for text |
| 22:58.18 | viisual|work | I'd go with a differant background for the divs w/ text in them yah. |
| 22:58.27 | AckisWork | *nod* k |
| 22:58.43 | steev | boo not recruiting dk's :( |
| 22:58.43 | thul | I should get myslef a guild. |
| 22:58.44 | thul | myself. |
| 22:59.04 | thul | are anyone actually recruiting DKs? :-P |
| 22:59.12 | Aiiane | and ckknight, ill take that as a complement |
| 22:59.18 | AckisWork | we have 12,000 of them... =/ |
| 22:59.20 | ckknight | Aiiane: I'm just messing with you |
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| 22:59.26 | AckisWork | <-- is the guild leader so careful if you app :P |
| 22:59.31 | steev | bleh |
| 22:59.39 | Aiiane | shush ckknight! you're complementing me >:| |
| 22:59.51 | ckknight | am I now? |
| 22:59.55 | ckknight | I thought I was complimenting you |
| 23:00.00 | steev | so many people want me to bring my resto shaman to their guild |
| 23:00.10 | ckknight | (homonyms are fun for the whole family) |
| 23:00.13 | AckisWork | steev: resto shaman would be so sexy right now |
| 23:00.21 | steev | not gonna happen :) |
| 23:00.44 | AckisWork | yah i know :P |
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| 23:01.11 | Aiiane | slumps |
| 23:01.11 | steev | im tired of guilds saying yeah, bring your resto shaman, you can bring your alts and on off nights you can get in on runs on him |
| 23:01.12 | sylvanaar | ckknight did you consider source attribution for localizations? |
| 23:01.21 | ckknight | ...of course |
| 23:01.24 | steev | and then the offnights having nothing going on and never getting them geared up at all |
| 23:01.27 | sylvanaar | source code |
| 23:01.28 | Aiiane | darnit ckknight you know which i meant :| |
| 23:01.39 | ckknight | sylvanaar: what do you mean? |
| 23:02.11 | ckknight | Aiiane: yea, but both work |
| 23:02.12 | sylvanaar | -- begin enUS -- end enUS |
| 23:02.15 | ckknight | we complement each other |
| 23:02.24 | AckisWork | steev: we don't have offnights :P at best it would be once we get a replacement lol |
| 23:02.25 | sylvanaar | in between are the localized strings |
| 23:02.29 | Aiiane | buries her head in her hands |
| 23:02.33 | ckknight | sylvanaar: ...right |
| 23:03.10 | ckknight | Aiiane: you're just frustrated because you can't have a taste of the C-man |
| 23:03.15 | sylvanaar | ckknight ? |
| 23:03.20 | ckknight | a.k.a. C-money |
| 23:03.25 | ckknight | a.k.a. Sneaky C |
| 23:03.35 | ckknight | sylvanaar: I have no idea what you're trying to say. maybe make a paste. |
| 23:04.10 | Repo | 10gem-helper: 03kunda * r71 GemHelper_Localization.deDE.lua: deDE update |
| 23:06.13 | Shefki | Holy tabs, ckknight |
| 23:06.22 | ckknight | hrm, Shefki? |
| 23:06.23 | steev | AckisWork: thats what happened in my last guild... and i ended up being the main healer in karazhan for over a year... after other healers that were recruited created dps because they sucked at healing |
| 23:07.10 | Shefki | ckknight: Looking at the config for PB4. |
| 23:07.14 | Repo | 10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r122 / (4 files in 1 directory): GatherMate_Data: Weekly update |
| 23:07.15 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 23:07.17 | ckknight | thoughts? |
| 23:07.36 | Aiiane | use coke instead of tab |
| 23:07.45 | NeoTron | steev: bring your resto druid to my guild and I promise you you can play resto druid for the next few years. |
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| 23:08.18 | doom0r | bangs head on desk |
| 23:08.38 | ckknight | doom0r: it's okay. we're all here for you. |
| 23:09.16 | Xinhuan | face on palm, is less painful than head on desk |
| 23:09.20 | pastamancer | last raid we had 7 healers... raid before that 7 tanks... where's all the good DPS?! |
| 23:09.25 | doom0r | k, then tell me why the hell wow eats 60% cpu at idle with no addons on and less than medium settings at 144x900 with a more than capable card with an E6400 :P |
| 23:09.37 | Xinhuan | because wow is CPU-heavy |
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| 23:09.44 | Xinhuan | it actually uses very little GPU |
| 23:09.52 | Xinhuan | i can run 3 copies of wow without issues |
| 23:09.55 | ckknight | what kind of CPU, doom0r? |
| 23:09.55 | doom0r | indeed, but that just seems way higher |
| 23:10.00 | doom0r | E6400 as noted |
| 23:10.04 | Xinhuan | if you set Vsync on, it uses even less |
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| 23:10.08 | Xinhuan | less cpu that is |
| 23:10.16 | Xinhuan | and gpu |
| 23:10.29 | doom0r | i've played with both on and off, i still crawl in 25man |
| 23:10.42 | Aiiane | most MMOs tend to wind up cpu-heavy |
| 23:10.46 | doom0r | even with spell detail completely down |
| 23:10.52 | Aiiane | and less emphasis on GPU |
| 23:10.56 | Xinhuan | then you have a CPU issue |
| 23:11.18 | Xinhuan | wow on my machine uses 50% when tabbed in (no vsync) and about 20% when alt-tabbed out |
| 23:11.32 | Jaxon | Have you somehow left profilign on? |
| 23:11.44 | Jaxon | Pretend I can type. |
| 23:11.48 | doom0r | no, profiling doesn't ever get to be on ;x |
| 23:12.11 | doom0r | i gotta try this on a 64bit system, see how it handles |
| 23:12.37 | sylvanaar | ckknight i was asking about how you would specify what you wanted localized. anyways - http://www.curseforge.com/paste/62/ |
| 23:14.39 | Mikk | Belazor: whutwhut, what thread? been ages since i locked a thread |
| 23:14.53 | Belazor | your scrolling power amazes me |
| 23:15.10 | Belazor | also it was funky who locked the compilations thread, not you :p |
| 23:15.34 | Arrowmaster | i thought it was pasta, or was he only threatening |
| 23:15.43 | Belazor | oh? |
| 23:15.44 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * c5e52e8 Modules/PvPIcon/PvPIcon.lua: [+1 commit] apparently some NPCs can be flagged as PvP, not flagged as PvP FFA, and not have a faction for some ungodly reason. In this event, show your own faction's PvP icon. |
| 23:15.54 | Belazor | aw fuck now you dog gone made me want to go check |
| 23:16.12 | Belazor | ok so it was pasta |
| 23:16.13 | Belazor | FIEN |
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| 23:16.24 | Belazor | theres only so many admins, I was bound to hit the right one eventually |
| 23:19.39 | Elkano | Twin Emperors... more fun than a stick... |
| 23:22.58 | NeoTron | let me tell you this - playing wow on a new machine is awesome |
| 23:23.13 | NeoTron | but I still got a minor slowdown (like just a very short one) in aoe heavy naxx situations |
| 23:23.36 | sylvanaar | the thread was over before it got locked imo |
| 23:23.41 | sacarasc | i wish i had a new machine... i just can't perform well in 25mans with what i have :( |
| 23:24.03 | NeoTron | one thing I noticed though - I prefer shadow detail level at 2 |
| 23:24.08 | sylvanaar | i need a different mouse, my middle mouse button on this new one is 50/50 |
| 23:24.18 | NeoTron | if I go up higher shadows for structures and such dont' show at long distances and it looks worse |
| 23:24.39 | NeoTron | not sure what the point is to have longer viewing distance than shadow viewing distance |
| 23:25.10 | sylvanaar | what's the "best" mouse for gaming ? |
| 23:25.27 | Xinhuan | microsoft's intellimouse 3.0 |
| 23:25.43 | Xinhuan | also i'm not kidding |
| 23:25.46 | ckknight | sylvanaar: http://www.russellheimlich.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/apple-hockey-puck-mouse.jpg |
| 23:25.49 | NeoTron | sylvanaar: entirely subjective |
| 23:26.02 | Repo | 10recount: 03kunda * r959 locales/Recount-deDE.lua: (Message trimmed by 6 lines) |
| 23:26.03 | Xinhuan | its preferred by most FPS competitive gamers |
| 23:26.05 | NeoTron | I love my Razer mouse for example but many don't like them |
| 23:26.05 | Repo | Recount: |
| 23:26.07 | Repo | - deDE update |
| 23:26.08 | Xinhuan | because of its 400 DPI |
| 23:26.09 | Repo | ACHTUNG: (deDE ONLY!) |
| 23:26.11 | Repo | I changed TWO localized slashcommands. deDE and the default english slashcommands |
| 23:26.13 | sylvanaar | of course it has a superlative in the question |
| 23:26.25 | Xinhuan | anything above 400 DPI is considered less accurate |
| 23:26.34 | Xinhuan | because accuracy is of importance in FPS shooters |
| 23:26.34 | NeoTron | most microsoft/logitech mice make my hands hurt with akward placement of mouse wheel and thumb buttons |
| 23:26.49 | fckgw-rhqq2-yxrk | oh wow |
| 23:26.50 | Xinhuan | and you need to apply the CPL mouse fix |
| 23:26.53 | fckgw-rhqq2-yxrk | not enough space |
| 23:26.53 | Xinhuan | to turn off |
| 23:26.59 | sylvanaar | yeah, thats my current situation + the middle mouse being 50/50 |
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| 23:27.03 | Xinhuan | the mouse accleration in windows |
| 23:27.21 | Xinhuan | it is just a registry modification |
| 23:27.37 | Xinhuan | the cpl mouse fix is no longer necessary in vista, as microsoft recognizes it as a problem |
| 23:27.43 | Repo | 10dkfight: 03viisual * r3 / (4 files in 1 directory): Added the start of what will become localization. |
| 23:28.24 | Jaxon | I like how my pet's TPS drops to negative numbers when I feign death using Omen |
| 23:29.15 | Xinhuan | does your pet's threat change? |
| 23:29.22 | Jaxon | Not that I know of. |
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| 23:29.45 | Jaxon | If it did, Feigning Death really wouldn't have any purpose. But the raw threat value remains static. |
| 23:29.50 | sylvanaar | ok G9 or sidewinder with LCD? |
| 23:30.08 | doom0r | NeoTron: mx310 |
| 23:31.02 | Xinhuan | sylvanaar: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/gaming/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=087 |
| 23:31.08 | Xinhuan | preferred by most competitive gamers |
| 23:31.22 | Xinhuan | feel free to google this if you contest "preferred by most competitive gamers" |
| 23:31.52 | doom0r | mx310 is easier for control |
| 23:32.04 | doom0r | slightly smaller allowing easier grip while using the side buttons |
| 23:32.24 | sylvanaar | Xinhuan i have it in a box next to me, i hate it |
| 23:32.36 | Xinhuan | you are probably too used to a razer then ;p |
| 23:32.36 | NeoTron | doom0r: I have a Razer Copperhead. It's good. Flipside is I don't like the Razer Lachesis - the shape/design doesn't work for my hand |
| 23:32.40 | doom0r | there's less tail on the 310 |
| 23:32.51 | NeoTron | doom0r: slighly smaller = fail. I want larger not smaller :P |
| 23:32.56 | Xinhuan | razer purposely made their side buttons "nearer" to the front |
| 23:32.57 | doom0r | the copperhead has 2 completely useless buttons |
| 23:32.59 | Xinhuan | compared to all other brands |
| 23:33.02 | sylvanaar | Xinhuan wait, no oops, thats the one i liked that broke |
| 23:33.04 | Xinhuan | so that |
| 23:33.06 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: exactly |
| 23:33.07 | Shefki | I have a Lachesis. |
| 23:33.07 | doom0r | 1 near useless |
| 23:33.14 | Shefki | I'm not fond if it but I like the number of buttons on it. |
| 23:33.15 | Xinhuan | it creates a "dependency" on their brand |
| 23:33.33 | Xinhuan | because switching away from razer requires you to switch to a mouse with side buttons nearer the middle |
| 23:33.34 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: rather, it is the only modern mouse I've seen that works with my hand |
| 23:33.35 | sylvanaar | the middle mouse on that one works perfectly, i just broke it |
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| 23:33.39 | NeoTron | old logitech worked but they changed |
| 23:34.02 | NeoTron | I fail to see that as an evil scheme |
| 23:34.03 | doom0r | the copperhead does _not_ have buttons near the front |
| 23:34.15 | NeoTron | rather I think everyone else seems to be made of fail |
| 23:34.31 | Xinhuan | MS's mouse is righthanded |
| 23:34.36 | Xinhuan | razer is ambidext |
| 23:34.49 | doom0r | they need to scale the mx310 up by 20% and update the optical engine |
| 23:34.55 | doom0r | best mouse ever |
| 23:35.06 | NeoTron | I specifically bought a copperhead due to reviews such as "nice mouse but too big for my hand" |
| 23:35.26 | doom0r | it's too high in the back |
| 23:35.29 | doom0r | hurts the wrist |
| 23:35.32 | Xinhuan | that comment sounds like its dependant on your hand size |
| 23:35.38 | sylvanaar | i have the laser mouse that looks just like the exlorer3.0 hurt my wrist |
| 23:35.42 | doom0r | if the hump came down a bit and the side buttons weren't impossible |
| 23:35.47 | Xinhuan | smaller than average hand size? ;p |
| 23:35.49 | NeoTron | I agree that the rear side button is a bit too far back (I use it for PTP for vent) but the front side + wheel are great |
| 23:36.00 | doom0r | i have very big hands |
| 23:36.20 | NeoTron | the main flaw in most mice though is the wheel |
| 23:36.21 | doom0r | i can't manage to get below the rails |
| 23:36.28 | NeoTron | I have to bend my finger way too much to use them |
| 23:36.51 | Aiiane | im still looking for a mouse i like :| |
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| 23:37.25 | thul | diiing |
| 23:37.26 | thul | 78 :-D |
| 23:37.27 | doom0r | everytime i find a closeout on old hw i like that was found in a warehouse, i buy it all out |
| 23:37.32 | thul | 2 mooaaaar |
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| 23:38.06 | NeoTron | doom0r: I found a mouse replacement to my old (with ball) logitech mouse on ebay when my old one broke because every other mosue just sucked... until I got the copperhead |
| 23:38.13 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: have you ever used an mx518? |
| 23:38.27 | Aiiane | buttons on the right side of a mouse don't work for me |
| 23:38.30 | doom0r | right handed lean sucks |
| 23:38.34 | Aiiane | so the mx310 wouldn't work for me |
| 23:38.54 | doom0r | Aiiane: there's only one and you can palm it |
| 23:38.56 | Arrowmaster | its what i have and i barely move my fingers to use the wheel |
| 23:39.01 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: nope. I've used a copperhead for the past 3+ years (same one at that) |
| 23:39.18 | doom0r | i don't even use a finger for it, i wrap my palm below my ringfinger to press it |
| 23:39.19 | NeoTron | looking at the photos it seems like it might be a reasonble layout |
| 23:39.27 | Aiiane | doom0r: I'd hit it too much by accident |
| 23:39.46 | doom0r | Aiiane: the mouse is pretty short, you'd be hard pressed to do that |
| 23:39.49 | Aiiane | out of curiousity doom0r how big are your hands? |
| 23:39.51 | doom0r | your hand tends to perk up in the center |
| 23:40.06 | doom0r | they're not very long, but very thick |
| 23:40.43 | doom0r | the middle 3 fingers sit on top for me and only the pinky goes off the side, and well below the button |
| 23:40.48 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: that said, I'm not looking for a replacement mouse since I have one that works perfectly for me |
| 23:41.15 | doom0r | even beyond the buttons, the laser engine in the copperhead most disappointed me |
| 23:41.22 | doom0r | it's impossible on black felt |
| 23:41.47 | Arrowmaster | i thought laser mice were suppost to work on almost any surface? |
| 23:41.58 | doom0r | black felt has a bad effect with them |
| 23:42.28 | doom0r | once there's the slightest of oil or anything, it permanently refracts |
| 23:43.07 | doom0r | basically, the laser becomes beyond sensitive, it reads every single little damn bounce |
| 23:43.09 | Xinhuan | don't buy laser mice |
| 23:43.11 | Xinhuan | go optical |
| 23:43.25 | Arrowmaster | whats this cpl mouse fix? |
| 23:43.26 | Aiiane | i think the intellimouse exp. 3.0 looks decently like what I'm comfortable with |
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| 23:43.35 | doom0r | i have both a coppperhead and an mx310 plugged in and next to each other at all times |
| 23:43.42 | Xinhuan | google it Arrowmaster |
| 23:43.43 | Xinhuan | "cpl mouse fix" |
| 23:43.46 | Arrowmaster | i did |
| 23:43.50 | Arrowmaster | all i got were files |
| 23:43.54 | Arrowmaster | not a description |
| 23:43.56 | thul | my crit is st00000ping though |
| 23:43.57 | Xinhuan | read the descprtions |
| 23:43.58 | Arrowmaster | or atleast not a good one |
| 23:43.58 | doom0r | Arrowmaster: acceleration |
| 23:43.58 | thul | level by level |
| 23:44.08 | Xinhuan | open the link of any of the file downloads |
| 23:44.13 | Xinhuan | it should have a description |
| 23:44.14 | doom0r | the windows ui does not properly disable it |
| 23:44.31 | Xinhuan | its basically a 2line registry file that u execute to overwrite 2 lines in your registry |
| 23:44.42 | Xinhuan | that in turns disable mouse acceleration in windows |
| 23:44.52 | doom0r | Aiiane: i would recommend it, i carry an old intellimouse in my car for anywhere i go |
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| 23:44.59 | Xinhuan | which is needed by professional gamers |
| 23:45.16 | Xinhuan | windows inherently accelerates the mouse cursor otherwise the further you move it |
| 23:45.20 | doom0r | not necessarily needed now that it's handled properly |
| 23:45.20 | Xinhuan | xp that is |
| 23:45.25 | Xinhuan | vista fixed it |
| 23:45.27 | doom0r | but rather required by certain competitions |
| 23:46.04 | doom0r | i'm a twitch gamer, i can abuse the living hell outta it |
| 23:46.04 | Xinhuan | the first link for "cpl mouse fix" should be some gotfrag link |
| 23:49.30 | NeoTron | so what does vista do to correctly handle it? |
| 23:49.44 | Xinhuan | doesn't have acceleration anymore |
| 23:50.04 | Xinhuan | btw read this |
| 23:50.05 | Xinhuan | http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1265679&page=3 |
| 23:50.17 | Xinhuan | i should link page 1 really |
| 23:50.18 | Xinhuan | http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1265679&page=1 |
| 23:50.19 | doom0r | any wowi mods around? |
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| 23:50.38 | Xinhuan | what this guy did was to test about 10-20 different mice |
| 23:50.49 | Xinhuan | on 3 aspects |
| 23:50.58 | Xinhuan | Perfect Control, Malfuction Speed, and DPI |
| 23:51.15 | doom0r | sounds like bs reviews |
| 23:51.28 | Xinhuan | not bullshit, its scientific |
| 23:51.31 | doom0r | i've only seen one ever proper review on gaming hardware |
| 23:51.34 | Fisker- | loves Xinhuan |
| 23:51.44 | Aiiane | half of all science is bullshit ;) |
| 23:51.52 | Aiiane | the other half is actually useful :P |
| 23:52.04 | Xinhuan | read page 3 on the equipment used and what malfunction speed is on page 1 |
| 23:52.09 | doom0r | and science has nothing to do with human habits in a fixed environment |
| 23:52.16 | Xinhuan | basically there is a speed at which a mouse starts to malfuction |
| 23:52.43 | doom0r | there's way more factors that actually matter than anything that ever makes a spec sheet |
| 23:52.54 | doom0r | regardless of who writes said sheet |
| 23:52.56 | Xinhuan | yes but at least read page 1-3 |
| 23:53.04 | Xinhuan | before you put it off as rubbish, and look at the results |
| 23:53.07 | Xinhuan | on page 22 |
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| 23:54.28 | Xinhuan | anyhow its just a "more interesting review" than "i tried X mouse on Y game and it felt good" |
| 23:54.45 | Xinhuan | since this one is based on hardware tests on the mouse sensors |
| 23:55.26 | Xinhuan | if you look at MS IE 3.0 mouse on page 5 |
| 23:55.33 | Xinhuan | you can see the sensitivty has a nice straight line |
| 23:55.40 | Xinhuan | up to about 1 meters |
| 23:55.46 | Xinhuan | which is why its preferred |
| 23:56.32 | Xinhuan | but most mice as it is have nice straight lines now |
| 23:56.36 | Xinhuan | so you pick ;p |
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| 23:57.09 | Xinhuan | logitech is good too, i had one of those |
| 23:57.32 | Jaxon | I use a MX Revolution, great mouse. |
| 23:58.07 | doom0r | i mean, srsly, who on earth needs to go over a meter/s |
| 23:58.29 | doom0r | you'd be in the hospital for rotator cuff after a while |
| 23:58.29 | Xinhuan | you'll be surprised at what speeds a mouse can travel at |
| 23:58.50 | Jaxon | How about what speeds it is necessary for a mouse to travel at? |
| 23:58.52 | Xinhuan | i mean have you read wikipedia on how fast semen is expelled out of the penis initially? ;p |
| 23:59.03 | Jaxon | I think input devices may have been over-engineered. |
| 23:59.11 | Maelos | Does anyone know how I can change the class color for Deathknights? Red is horrible. |
| 23:59.13 | Jaxon | Xinhuan: no, but that bruise on your face will go away in time. |
| 23:59.18 | Arrowmaster | yeah when you do twitch aiming in a real fps game like ut, you move perty damn fast |
| 23:59.19 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 23:59.28 | Xinhuan | it may not feel like 1m/s to you |
| 23:59.28 | Codayus | MX Revolution is just amazing, yeah. |
| 23:59.34 | Xinhuan | but it can be faster than that |
| 23:59.37 | doom0r | Xinhuan: there's more than enough factors than i care to even mention that could change that conversation into something you could never draw any reasonable data from |
| 23:59.40 | Xinhuan | when you flick your mouse |
| 23:59.47 | *** join/#wowace p3lim (n=p3lim@ti500710a080-4536.bb.online.no) |
| 23:59.52 | doom0r | let alone mice ;x |
