IRC log for #wowace on 20081208

00:00.17Dottedthen he should start scraping from the european site instead :p
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00:10.42Repo10vanas-ko-s: 03Vana * r287 / (5 files in 2 directories): VanasKoS: o more sync stuff
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00:22.10thulFYTTE POKKERN!
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00:40.01Pkekyo|Atheism
00:40.02Pkekyo|The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.
00:40.02Pkekyo|Makes perfect sense.
00:41.11thulthe christian version is far better
00:41.12thul:-D
00:41.31Xinhuanuntil you ask "who created God?"
00:42.13thulXinhuan: the christian version of the "makes perfect sense"
00:42.30thulXinhuan: http://migration.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/christianity.jpg
00:45.05Pkekyo|actually, methinks the atheism one is funnier
00:45.16syerenThink it's pretty sute that Christianity is stupid; so pointless trying to pick a part cell evolution when you're backing a 'god'.
00:45.17syeren:p
00:46.01Pkekyo|sute?
00:46.16syeren*sure
00:46.16syeren;p
00:46.50thulPkekyo|: not even close:P
00:47.09thulPkekyo|: the christian one is actually very faithful to the christian faith as described in the bible
00:47.16thulthe atheist one is just.. not :-P
00:47.22thulfaithful.. in any way :-D
00:47.39Pkekyo|thul: I'm not saying that I agree with either, just that the atheism one is more prone to making me laugh
00:47.55Pkekyo|http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fin2233/flagstickerjv0-1.jpg
00:49.22thulPkekyo|: but it is not faithful :-(
00:49.45Pkekyo|thul: doesn't matter, it's funnier :)
00:50.03thulno :-(
00:50.12thulit is the duality with the real christianity that makes the original fun :-D
00:50.22thulthe atheist one is just a cramped attempt :-(
00:50.31Pkekyo|still is funnier :)
00:50.38thulnooo :-(
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00:55.14Raydenhttp://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/690281/Mila_Kunis_Plays_World_Of_Warcraft.html
00:55.19RaydenMila Kunis knows a lot about WoW
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01:00.49trhRayden: sounds authentic and not like a show
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01:02.27Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r93 / (4 files in 4 directories): -- More quest items
01:02.28Repo-- Some zone specific buff items
01:04.08Raydenyeah she spoke well
01:04.15Raydensome people get on talk shows and are just idiots
01:04.26Repo10lib-st: 03ddumont * r54 Core.lua: Support for user supplied update function
01:04.30Raydeni like how she smirked when he asked if she was in a guild in Max Payne
01:05.44Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r39 newui.lua: Fixes for missing sdkpdata not being present
01:07.07Pkekyo|speaking of...any good Max Payne releases out yet? not running in theatres here anymore
01:07.13trhthe movie stinks
01:07.24trhwatched it in the theatre
01:07.37trhthey try to recreate some athmosphere from the game but fail
01:07.54Pkekyo|well, rather fancy checking it out anyways tbh
01:07.58trhit wasn't as bad as matrix 3
01:08.03Pkekyo|bollocks, got to go to work in less than five hours
01:08.06Raydennot saying much
01:08.15CrazyBenny_I think it was much better than most of movies made after a game
01:08.23trhbut i didn't felt the money was well spent after it
01:08.26Raydenagain, that's not saying much
01:08.35CrazyBenny_yea, but still :P
01:08.40trhCrazyBenny_: surely.. but most of them are done by uwe bolll.. therefore tehy must suck
01:09.08CrazyBenny_oh yea, apparently hes gone from game movies bussiness
01:09.20Pkekyo|making FPS games now :p
01:09.36trhi cant even remember the last good movie made from a game
01:09.55Pkekyo|haven't happened
01:10.14Repo10lib-st: 03ddumont * r55 Core.lua: for got the row one.
01:10.15thulsilent hill
01:10.16thulffs
01:10.17thul:-(
01:10.33Pkekyo|you're right thul, sorry 'bout that
01:10.38thul:-(
01:11.50Pkekyo|I fucking hate people that haven't realized they can swear on the intartubes without their mother spanking them
01:12.20Pkekyo|seeing bullshit like "F**K" makes me want to dropkick babies
01:12.49thulFARK!
01:12.53thulfor fracks sake!
01:13.01Pkekyo|>.<
01:13.06trhmotherfracker!
01:13.22thulhehe, BSG :-D
01:13.45Pkekyo|well FRACK YOU
01:14.01Pkekyo|I wantses the BSG DVDs for christmas
01:14.44trhbut i still don't get why the "f"-word is banned on us-tv (well.. public networks)
01:15.14Pkekyo|because they're fuckwits :)
01:15.30thulamericans are weird:P
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01:15.50Pkekyo|"oh noes, our children may start cursing... we should teach them to wage a holy war and give them guns instead to divert this disaster before it is too late!"
01:16.08trhhehe.. and the nudity ban
01:16.22trh<3 californication
01:16.43Pkekyo|oh lawd... kids seeing a breast? it's not as though they spent the first months of their life SUCKING ON THEM
01:17.34ZhinjioPkekyo|: you're not a product of american puritanism, clearly
01:17.41Pkekyo|Zhinjio: well duh :p
01:17.55trhhehe.. he doesn't belong to "real america" ;)
01:18.02quiescensquick, take him in for reeducation at the camps
01:18.05Zhinjioright.
01:18.06Pkekyo|I'm not a bloody american
01:18.06trhto quote a famous politician ;)
01:18.26Zhinjioeither do I for that matter, but I've at least been exposed to all of my formative life.
01:19.40Pkekyo|without stepping on half the channel's toes (not likely); if the american society and way of life gets even more fucked up, I'll be highly impressed
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01:20.25Pkekyo|"gun murder rates up by 30%! WE NEED MORE GUNS TO PROTECT OURSELVES!"
01:20.30trhah well.. there are sides to american society which aren't bad at all
01:21.04Pkekyo|I have yet to be convinced
01:21.15trhthe "we can do it"-attitude is pretty nice
01:21.21trhcompared to germany (as an example)
01:22.08Pkekyo|the "we can do it"-attitude is the reason fuckloads of kids are dying in Iraq and Afghanistan, caught in a bottomless sinkhole of war
01:22.09thulhmm, I confiscated an unopened bottle of expensive tequila (fun right? :-P ) this weekend
01:22.19Pkekyo|hahah, brilliant thul :)
01:22.22thulPkekyo|: well, it is also the source of lots of good stuff.
01:22.25thulPkekyo|: yeah :-D the perks of being a bouncer.
01:22.47Pkekyo|thul: what good stuff?
01:22.52trhthul: rum'd be better.... but tequila is ok ;)
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01:23.16thulPkekyo|: well, first of all, the law of jante, dominating norway, is no better than the oposite in us imo :-P i think a balance between those would be nice.
01:23.34trhthul: law of jante?
01:23.38thuland when it comes to nice stuff, research, development, integration/assimilation of huge amounts of immigrants, quite a lot other stuff.
01:23.40Pkekyo|tequila is one of the main reasons of casual sex over the weekends
01:23.51Pkekyo|trh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janteloven
01:23.57thuldoes not ANYONE read classical european litterature? :-P
01:23.59thultrh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jante_Law
01:24.28Pkekyo|noone gives a shit about european litterature thul :p
01:24.45thulPkekyo|: I do! I give a shit about most literature :-P
01:24.59Pkekyo|x)
01:25.09Pkekyo|I miss back in the days when I went through a couple of books a week
01:25.51thulI do that now :-P or, 1-2 books pr week
01:26.16trhomg.. i haven't read 20 (literature) books in my whole life ;)
01:26.43Pkekyo|thul: I nearly agree about the "middle path" in regards of attitudes, but tbh... you should assume anyone are just as good or bad as yourself until the fuckwit proves otherwise :p
01:27.30thulPkekyo|: I just assume bad faith (people want me no good) and that I outclass them all on all relevant fields.
01:27.33thulthat is how I go by :-P
01:27.50Pkekyo|hahah
01:28.07thulthe worst thing is, I'm not lying :-P
01:28.10trhthul: that's wrong - people want good for themselves, and it doesn't matter if they do good or bad to you in the process
01:28.34Pkekyo|well, yeah, selfishness is the new world religion
01:28.36trhthey do whatever profits them most
01:28.44trhbasic game theory
01:28.50thultrh: yes, and that is why you can't trust them and why assuming bad faith is a good idea.
01:29.34trhyep.. trust is a bad thing
01:29.43trhat least with strangers
01:29.52thulyepp
01:29.56thulhave you read much hardford?
01:29.57thultim?
01:30.21trhnope.. but i had economics as a minor
01:30.27trhuh
01:30.41trhi mean minor in the sense of a lecture
01:30.46trhnot age
01:31.09thulhehe, "the logic of life" is fun, a bit of game theory
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01:39.33Repo10skillet: 03nogudnik 041.12.2 * r160 : Tagging as 1.12.2
01:39.34Repo- Show item stats in tooltip
01:39.34Repo- Added Eternium Thread as buyable
01:39.36Repo- More ArkInventory tweaks
01:43.05Arrowmasteryay seeker title!
01:45.38Zyndromeyay nothing! .. lets see if we dare go for all 3 drakes up @ Sartharion next week, did it with 2 today :<
01:45.55Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r83 / (6 files in 2 directories):
01:45.55Repo- Added new substitution variable <pet> to show the name of your combat pet.
01:45.56Repo- Added default speeches for Hunter: Bestial Wrath using the new <pet> variable
01:46.27Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner 04v3.0.3.15-release * r84 : Tagged release 3.0.3.15
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01:58.15thulno portrait today, this is all you folks get: http://fc81.deviantart.com/fs38/i/2008/342/1/5/Good_night_by_cainadamsson.jpg
01:58.45Zhinjionice use of focal distance.
01:58.56thuldakne
01:58.58thuldanke even
01:59.00Zhinjiobitte
02:01.19theoddone33man I feel bad
02:01.35theoddone33I died in stage one and it looks like my guild might get malygos to phase 3 for the first time
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02:04.01gixyay! Convention at the Legerdemain again.
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02:08.11Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r85 / (4 files in 2 directories):
02:08.12RepoRemoved a debug message that I accidentally left in place when releasing .15
02:08.12RepoRemoved <target> from the default speech of a death knight's Raise Dead because it does not work on dead targets
02:08.43Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner 04v3.0.3.16-release * r86 : Tagged release 3.0.3.16
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02:11.27NivFreakKolie, Kaelten: So are we ever going to get a new mac client?
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02:15.30Repominor: Fixed typo in argument list of warnframe grow up option.
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02:27.38theoddone33is there anything that helps with targeting drakes in malygos phase 3?
02:27.40theoddone33for healing
02:28.36syerenDon't.
02:28.41syerenSimply target your own drake.
02:28.47syerenDo 5 stacks of the heal on yourself.
02:28.50syerenThen LifeBurst.
02:28.56syerenJust repeat that and everything is okay.
02:28.56syeren:p
02:29.06theoddone33ah ok
02:29.32syerenTell all your assigned healers to do that and the whole raid will stay alive :p
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02:38.55Repo10broker_garbagefu: 03LordFarlander * r4 Broker_GarbageFu.lua: Broker_GarbageFu
02:38.55Repo- More tooltip fixing
02:42.40Repo10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r28 Broker_RecZone.lua: Broker_RecZone:
02:42.41Repo- Playing with highlighting
02:44.06Pkekyo|oh fuck me sideways
02:44.19Pkekyo|three hours until I have to go to work and I drive cars for a living
02:44.32Pkekyo|I'm off to bed, see y'all in the morning if I survive
02:46.38Repo10coconuts: 03LordFarlander 042.5.118-release * r118 : Tagging as 2.5.118-release
02:47.16Repo10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander 042.0.111-release * r111 : Tagging as 2.0.111-release
02:49.52Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1190 / (13 files in 3 directories): Fix the localization issue, regenerate data
02:52.29theoddone33I kind of hate vehicles in this game
02:52.37theoddone33which is sad since there are entire instances based around them
02:53.24linear`oculus is the worst
02:55.57quiescensoculus is a pain because of 3d motion
02:58.19Gngskwhy the hate?
03:02.06theoddone33I've been annoyed lately when games introduce new mechanics with no ramp up
03:02.17theoddone33vehicles are kind of like that
03:02.36theoddone33and I haven't investigated much into whether there's mod support to make them better
03:06.10theoddone33malygos is an ok fight but I am not sold on the vehicle part yet
03:10.10WobWorkI hate the vehicile
03:10.11WobWorkrarr
03:10.21WobWorkStupid On Ruby Wings
03:11.01WobWorkif you're a pet using class, make sure you delete your cache folder and dismiss your pet before starting this quest
03:11.06WobWorkOh and log out and back in again
03:11.48WobWorkbecause Blizz couldn't figure out a way to make vehicles work if you have an active pet
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03:14.18Codayus_Hmm, odd, no pet classes in my guild had issued with that quest.
03:15.29WobWorkI went through about 12 drakes
03:15.29WobWorkbefore I deleted my cache and restarted
03:15.36Codayus_Oo
03:15.48AeyanI've had trouble on my DK with my pet frame not switching to vehicle when I ride on, but I figured it was just an oUF issue
03:16.10Arrowmasterno unitframes properly support vehicles except the defaultui
03:16.17Arrowmasterbecause its not possible
03:18.22ArrowmasterWobWork: i did On Ruby Wings without issues as a warlock with a pet out, when i was dismounted at the end my pet came back out
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03:19.06Wobinblah
03:27.42Repo10arl: 03next96 * r1191 Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua: AckisRecipeList:
03:27.42Repo- Update locale koKR
03:28.50Codayus_Mmm, I had a terrible bug with On Ruby Wings, actually.
03:29.04Codayus_When I took off, the drakes wings weren't flapping.  It looked really odd.  :-(
03:29.19Wobinhttp://www.amazon.com/b/?node=334897011
03:29.22Wobinyeah
03:29.24WobinI had the same
03:29.32WobinI traded my drake in for an unbroken one
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03:29.43Wobinwhich was also broken
03:29.59Wobinso once that one got down to about 10% health due to not being able to eat or fire
03:30.04WobinI traded it in for another
03:31.10Codayus_Of course, touching down on the grund fixed the wings.  :-)  I did have a substantive bug too - didn't get credit for killing ghouls until I dismounted to grab the scythe.  When I remounted, it worked.  *shrug*
03:31.30Codayus_So, I'd buy it being a buggy quest, certainly.
03:32.16WobinAs an aside, I also dislike the inability to get a good perspective while on a vehicle
03:32.22Wobineither you have to zoom all the way in
03:32.32Wobinor your FoV is blocked terribly by the vehicle
03:33.13Wobinand if you zoom all the way in, you might as well just be riding a grey box
03:33.13Codayus_Heh
03:33.25WobinThey just need to set the camera a little further back and up
03:34.04Wobinor completely assign mouselook
03:34.17Wobinso that movement keys only control the vehicle, but the mouse freelooks
03:34.52TorhalWobin: People like my GF would freak.
03:35.04TorhalShe can't control her toon with a mouse to save her life.
03:35.10TorhalWatching her move using the keyboard is rather comical, though
03:35.10Codayus_I admit, a few bits could have been more polished.
03:35.16Repo10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r29 Broker_RecZone.lua: Broker_RecZone:
03:35.16Repo- Fixes for displayname
03:35.55Codayus_(Of Wrath, I mean.)
03:37.33WobinTorhal: Well that's what I mean
03:37.39Wobinmovement would be completely keyboard controlled
03:37.43Wobinlike in a vehicle
03:38.06TorhalAh, just re-read that. Was thinking the other way around. Heh
03:38.32Codayus_Hm, would work well for ground vehicles; could be confusing for air vehicles if not implemented well...
03:38.37WobinCause really, in a vehicle, there's no way you can spin on a dime, as it were =)
03:38.45Wobinnods
03:39.05Wobinpitch and yaw is still missing from air vehicles =)
03:39.38WobinIt would be totally awesome if they could incorporate actual flying physics into the air vehicles
03:40.07Wobinie going faster around corners, heading down, etc
03:40.14Codayus_...maybe.  Although the issue there is flying with vaguely realistic physics is really hard.
03:40.14Wobinor being affected by thermals
03:40.47Wobinat the moment, the air vehicles are really underwater vehicles =P
03:41.05Wobinoh I never said it would be -easy- =P Just awesome
03:41.51Codayus_(One of the designers of Thief was asked once whether he leaned towards reality or fun when a conflict arose.  He replied that he always chose fun, because the reason people played games was because they were more fun than reality.)
03:42.12WobinRIP LGS
03:42.14Wobin=(
03:42.25Codayus_Mmm, I meant really hard to *fly*.  It would also be hard to program.  :-)
03:42.41WobinIt'd still be awesome =)
03:42.57WobinMaybe have two modes
03:43.02Wobinone, autohover etc
03:43.06Wobinthe other freefall
03:43.48Codayus_Plus, of course, realistic flying sim of a *dragon* is...hrm.  Tricky.
03:43.52WobinOr, if you're not moving, your mount hovers, but as soon as it starts moving, it's affected by gravity, and performs proper wingstrokes etc
03:44.09WobinOh naturally
03:44.13WobinBut it'd be AWESOME =)
03:44.16Codayus_I mean, who can say HOW quickly a 20 ton hunk of armor plated muscle can turn in mid air?
03:44.29WobinMy answer?
03:44.34Wobin"As fast as he wants to"
03:44.39Codayus_Heh
03:45.07TorhalThey ened to rework the hacked parts of the old world to enable fliers there.
03:45.08exor674hehe... I like doing that with flying mounts... trying to limit my descent rate/turn rate
03:45.12Torhals/ened/need/
03:45.29WobinTorhal: that would be a huge project
03:45.30Codayus_...on a completely related note, they should add small vehicles to Dalaran.  Go karts, maybe.  Having races around the center path would be fun.
03:45.32exor674and estimate how far I have to start descending to make a location
03:46.00TorhalWobin: There isn't much that I'm aware of that isn't kosher. Orgrimmar is a big one
03:46.00WobinI always druiddrop to locations
03:46.02Codayus_Torhal: NO!  They ned to add heroic Deadmines first.  Flyng mounts in Azeroth are a complete luxury in comparison.
03:46.14TorhalCodayus_: Bah. Heroic RFC.
03:46.19exor674I want a 25-man raid version of Deadmines
03:46.28Codayus_Torhal: Sure.
03:47.03Codayus_Heroic SFK wouldn't be terrible either, although it'd need a pass to add more voice acting and cooler boss abilities.  Heroic Deadmins would need less work.
03:47.21WobinI was a bit disappointed that they didn't voiceact the Battle for Undercity
03:47.22exor674they have the lore to do it again
03:47.24exor674er now
03:47.29exor674they forgot to pay the masons AGAIN
03:47.34Codayus_lol
03:47.46Codayus_That'd be awesome.
03:49.23WobinPS, if anyone of appropriate level has -not- done the Wrathgate chain, I -highly- recommend you stop whatever you're doing and start it now
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03:49.36Codayus_Truth
03:49.40exor674I think a deadmines with all the bosses coming kael advisors style
03:49.40WobinAfter that chain, I could happily stop playing WoW altogether =P
03:49.42exor674would be awesome _<
03:50.02Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r87 Locales (2 files in 1 directory):
03:50.03Repoattempting to add a clarification that non-magical abilities also work
03:51.42Codayus_Deadmines is just a great instance.  It had voice acting, multi stage fights, varied design, good lore backing, a good quest chain leading into it, a good followup quest to wrap it all up, some interesting multiphase boss fights...
03:51.50Codayus_Oops, listed that last one twice.
03:52.26exor674heh Codayus_
03:52.26Gnarfozmulti stage sentence structuring
03:52.31Codayus_...which means it's better than most Vanilla and almost all TBC instances.  :-(
03:52.54exor674yeah, I can't find another instance that I can easily solo repeatedly that would be fun to write a BabyWighs module for :(
03:53.00Codayus_(Further evidence that Bliz started with the human zones, got about halfway done, went OMG SCHEDULE!, and rushed everything out the door.
03:53.10WobinRFC?
03:53.12WobinSFK?
03:53.18WobinThey're both pretty cool
03:53.31TorhalBFD
03:53.34Codayus_SFK is, RFC...not so much.
03:53.45WobinRFC I agree is pretty bland
03:53.48exor674I'll keep those in mind for next time I'm bored :D
03:54.12WobinThey should rewrite a lot of the instances to use phasing =)
03:54.13Repo10big-brother: 03Silberbuechse 04v174 * r175 :  (Message trimmed by 8 lines)
03:54.13RepoBigBrother.lua
03:54.14Repo- add new Flasks and Elixiers
03:54.16Repo- add Tricks of the trade
03:54.20RepoBuffWindow.lua
03:55.02Codayus_Deadmines is quite polished - little things like the patrols that spawn behind you kill a boss, or the locked door that you can blow open with the gunpowder and cannon.
03:55.12exor674I think I might have a partial BabyWigs_SFK module
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03:57.45Codayus_THen again, humans also got what may be the worst instance - Stockades.
03:58.45Codayus_Lore - confusing. Quests leading into it - generic and formulaic.  Bosses - well, none really.  Loot - ditto.  Design - pathetic example of copy paste.  Size - two hallways.
03:59.04exor674Stockades is only good for ghearthing when you are stuck in SW
04:01.50PrimerSeems Prat is broken
04:02.16PrimerI can't right click on people's names, and it's as if I left clicked
04:02.23PrimerI can't get the context menu
04:03.03Gngskis it possible to forcefully remove a passenger from your vehicle type mounts?
04:03.11ShefkiYes.
04:03.16Gngskhow?
04:06.03WobinCodayus_: Have you -seen- AK?
04:06.07Wobinor is it AN
04:06.14WobinA terrible mishmash of webbing
04:06.23Wobinno obvious flow to each boss
04:07.06WobinThe Old Kingdom, overall, while terribly pretty, has terrrible flow
04:07.20WobinI've run it and missed two bosses, cause we just couldn't find them =P
04:08.32Repo10pt3browser: 03Arrowmaster * r63 PT3Browser.lua:
04:08.33RepoAdd quality color for BoA items, search addon toc's for LPT-3.1 metadata instead of PT-3.0 metadata
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04:15.15Raydenso
04:15.20Raydeni have the feral t4 2pc set
04:15.25Raydeni'm lvl almost 74
04:15.41Raydenwhen does the bonus stop being worth it?
04:16.06Matrix110when you get 2 lvl 80 parts that replace it
04:17.20Raydeni thought i read that the bonus diminishes quickly after lvl 70
04:18.19Wobinwhat's the bonus?
04:18.23Raydenchance on hit to get extra energy
04:18.37Raydenit's pretty much the best set bonus in all of BC
04:18.48Raydensuch that you don't replace it until you have full T6 pretty much
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04:28.34Raydeni can't find it now
04:28.39Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r88 Locales (2 files in 1 directory): better tooltips in the options
04:42.16Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1192 AckisRecipeList.lua: update smelting spell ID 2575 - 2656
04:51.02SilowyiVersion 1.7.2 of Ludwig, I can't seem to get the item links in chat to work.
04:51.23SilowyiShould I try the svn version?
04:51.29Silowyior am I missing something
04:51.52Silowyinvm
04:51.59SilowyiI missed the [[ double bracket bit
04:56.10Silowyidoes anyone know of an addon that lets you show the number of X that you have in your bags easily, like you add the name of something you want to track, and it will list the quantity.
04:56.21Wobinnot any more
04:56.28WobinI used to use farmerfu or something like that
04:56.36Wobinno idea what's the popular one nowadays
04:57.03SilowyiI tried an addon called Farmed, or Farmer, not sure, but it doesn't let you choose what to track, except from its own predefined categories
04:57.18Wobinthat seems a bit stupid =P
04:58.12Silowyiwell the author says he's planning on adding support for category
04:58.18Silowyierr for customization rather
04:58.29Silowyisomething using periodic table would be cool
05:06.45Repo10buttonfacade_gears: 03StormFX * r35 ButtonFacade_Gears.toc: - ToC fixes.
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05:08.46Repo10socialist: 03eblume 04v0.1_alpha * r54 : Tagging as v0.1_alpha
05:08.58Repo10cy-circled_onyx: 03StormFX * r36 / (3 files in 1 directory): - ToC tweaks.
05:08.59Repo- License.txt
05:09.22Repo10cy-circled_vol-gold: 03StormFX * r33 / (2 files in 1 directory): - ToC tweaks.
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05:10.39Repo10buttonfacade_onyx: 03StormFX * r37 ButtonFacade_Onyx.toc: - ToC tweaks.
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05:11.58Repo10buttonfacade_litestep: 03StormFX * r33 / (2 files in 1 directory): - ToC tweaks.
05:12.28Repo10big-brother: 03Silberbuechse * r176 tags/ (2 files in 2 directories): BigBrother:
05:12.29Repo- update
05:12.52Repo10buttonfacade_layertest: 03StormFX * r36 ButtonFacade_LayerTest.toc: - ToC tweaks.
05:14.02Repo10buttonfacade_layertest: 03StormFX * r37 ButtonFacade_LayerTest.toc: - Premature commitulation.
05:14.40Repo10buttonfacade_entropy: 03StormFX * r41 ButtonFacade_Entropy.toc: - ToC tweaks.
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05:15.56Repo10buttonfacade_apathy: 03StormFX * r53 ButtonFacade_Apathy.toc: - ToC tweaks.
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05:18.11Repo10buttonfacade_caith: 03StormFX 043.0.3.2 * r41 : Tagging as 3.0.3.2
05:19.19Repo10buttonfacade_entropy: 03StormFX 043.0.3.2 * r42 : Tagging as 3.0.3.2
05:19.44Zyndromeuh oh
05:20.56Repo10buttonfacade_layertest: 03StormFX 043.0.3.2 * r38 : Tagging as 3.0.3.2
05:21.30Repo10buttonfacade_litestep: 03StormFX 043.0.3.2 * r34 : Tagging as 3.0.3.2
05:21.43Zyndromeoh, he is project lead ... thought we had another case of uh uh *snaps fingers* that guy
05:21.45Repo10buttonfacade_onyx: 03StormFX 043.0. * r38 : Tagging as 3.0.
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05:23.43Wobinspamalicious
05:24.43Silowyiwait
05:25.01Silowyicy-circled and buttonfacade are by the same person?
05:28.15Repo10fu-bar_abrams-fu: 03yoni75 * r40 .pkgmeta: correct svn path
05:30.50Mikk@project buttonfacade
05:30.50RepoMikk: http://www.wowace.com/projects/buttonfacade/. ButtonFacade. Game: WoW. StormFX (Manager/Author), Satrina (Author), jjsheets (Author). Updated: 44 days ago. Tickets: 1/3
05:30.59Mikk@project cy-circled
05:30.59RepoMikk: http://www.wowace.com/projects/cy-circled/. cyCircled. Game: WoW. Status: Out of date. Imported from wowace SVN project cyCircled. Sairen (Manager/Author). Updated: 52 days ago. Tickets: 1/1
05:31.12Mikknot really :)
05:31.13Silowyiah, nvm then
05:32.06Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r89 / (4 files in 2 directories):
05:32.07RepoEnhanced "/ss advertise" to allow overriding the default channel with "/ss advertise /p" and similar options
05:32.08RepoThe default command for /ss is now /ss help instead of /ss options.
05:32.09RepoFurther clarifications to tooltips and help text
05:32.09Mikkit seems they share layouts though
05:33.55Silowyiheh
05:33.58Silowyi100 fish acheivement is bugged
05:34.00SilowyiI just got it
05:34.10Silowyiand I have 118 fish in my inventory
05:34.17Silowyiall from this session of fishing
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05:34.31Repo- update
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05:40.16Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r90 Locales/Locale-enUS.lua: changed Delete Spell to Remove Spell
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05:44.26Repo10fu-bar_abrams-fu: 03yoni75 * r41 / (4 files in 2 directories): remove svn:externals - it's not work
05:44.26Repomodify 73 level -> 83 level ( for WotRK )
05:44.27Repoadd korean locale
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05:49.29Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r91 Locales/Locale-enUS.lua:
05:49.30Repoenhanced instructions for adding a new spell to clarify that it works for non-magical abilities, melee actions, proc effects, and item's spell effects
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05:54.42Repo-
05:59.06Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r92 :
05:59.07Repoadded *.jpg to the SVN ignore list since these screen shots are not source code controlled
06:06.38Repo10big-brother: 03Silberbuechse * r179 tags/ (2 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 8 lines)
06:06.39RepoBigBrother.lua
06:06.40Repo- add new Flasks and Elixiers
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06:06.48RepoBuffWindow.lua
06:09.25Repo10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1073 Grid.toc: Updated toc for version 1.30000.2008120801.
06:09.41Repo10grid: 03Pastamancer 04 1.30000.2008120801 * r1074 : Tagging as  1.30000.2008120801
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06:16.47Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r93 Locales/Locale-enUS.lua: The war against unclear tooltips continues
06:18.39Repo10grid: 03Pastamancer 07unitguid * r1075 / (5 files in 2 directories): Removed banzai.
06:18.40RepoChanged UpdateAll functions in GridStatusAggro.lua and GridStatusName.lua to use GridRoster:IterateRoster.
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06:20.54Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r94 Locales/Locale-enUS.lua: Further attempts to explain SpeakinSpell to melee users
06:23.04Repo10grid: 03Pastamancer 07unitguid * r1076 GridCore.lua: Finish removing banzai.
06:27.19Repo10big-brother: 03StingerSoft * r180 / (2 files in 1 directory): BigBrother:
06:27.19Repo- update/fix ruRU
06:27.20RepoBigBrother.lua
06:27.22Repo- change message output format for ruRU loc
06:31.32Repo10grid: 03Pastamancer 04unitguid-r1076 * r1077 : Tagging a copy of the unitguid branch for testing.
06:34.07Repo10big-brother: 03Silberbuechse * r181 tags/ (2 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 8 lines)
06:34.08RepoBigBrother.lua
06:34.09Repo- add new Flasks and Elixiers
06:34.11Repo- add Tricks of the trade
06:34.15RepoBuffWindow.lua
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06:42.38Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r95 SpeakinSpell.toc:
06:42.39RepoUpdated credits to say "Addon inspired by Cryolysis2, Necrosis, MageSpeak (for random speeches) and Healbot (for the ability to type in the name of a spell)"
06:47.07Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r96 Locales/Locale-enUS.lua:
06:47.08RepoIt is a never-ending war against clarifying the tooltips and help text
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06:53.05Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r97 SpeakinSpell.lua:
06:53.06Repo/ss advertise /w stonaria - will whisper an ad for SpeakinSpell to Stonaria
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06:57.27Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r98 Locales/Locale-enUS.lua: fixed an error in the help text
06:58.00CIA-50wowbench: 03mikeclueby4 * r189 10/trunk/widgets.lua: frame:HookScript() [HALF] - 100% functional for when it SHOULD work, but param checking is lacking
06:58.24Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r99 SpeakinSpell.lua:
06:58.24RepoAdded localized support for "/ss advertise /w stonaria" in non-english translations
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07:04.33Primerwhere is sylvanaar
07:04.40Primerlatest Prat is broken
07:04.53Primercan't get right click context menu
07:05.39Primerplus there's an error at startup
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07:08.35Zyndrometurns on the Bat Signal
07:08.41Mikkhands a copy of Chatter to Primer
07:09.13Zyndromeor that ... I converted my GM into Chatter-user, from Prat
07:09.15Zyndrome·_.
07:09.34Mikkis a GM
07:09.38MikkCoincidence? oO
07:10.31Zyndromeif you're serbian and got a passion for cursing with prolonged F's
07:12.02Mikkhahaha
07:12.25Mikkswedish and a passion for cursing so fast people barely hear what i'm cursing about
07:13.18Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r100 SpeakinSpell.lua:
07:13.18RepoFixed some confusing issues with the options GUI when you do not have any spells configured for this character, so it should be easier to understand
07:14.32Primercurse client blocks when it's sending its update
07:14.38Primerblocks the UI
07:17.05ZyndromeI like how a rogue on our server managed to sell a grey item for 50k gold
07:17.56Primerok, I must have fucked up something
07:18.08Primerbecause chatter also does not provide a right click context menu
07:18.13Primerinvite, ignore, etc
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07:23.22Repo10big-brother: 03Silberbuechse 04v182 * r182 : BigBrother:
07:23.22Repo- update/fix ruRU
07:23.23RepoBigBrother.lua
07:23.25Repo- change message output format for ruRU loc
07:24.28dodgaohnoes, Grid breaking compat :D
07:25.06pastamancerit's true
07:25.17dodgaHow can I go on!
07:25.35pastamancerblame malygos
07:26.05PrimerAnyone have any idea what would cause the chat frames right click context menu to stop working?
07:26.12PrimerIt doesn't work in Prat or Chatter
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07:27.14dodgapastamancer: I wiped several hours to that bastard yesterday in normal and heroic, until we finally killed him at around 0130 in normal mode
07:27.30dodgaSo I'll blame him later when we attempt him in heroic... again..
07:27.43dodgaOver 100 gold repair cost yesterday, gotta love progression raids
07:28.15Hjaltedodga: You have to love it when those sparks come three in a row on the same spot. And hate it then they don't.
07:28.27dodgaYeah, that too
07:29.04dodgaAlso, does anyone know why I (and several people in my raid) get the message "No target" when trying to use Flame Shield and not having targetted one self?
07:29.19dodgaWe wiped countless times to people dying because of that
07:29.25Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r101 / (2 files in 2 directories):
07:29.26Reporemoved references to no-longer-supported command /ss url.  The website URL is now shown in the options GUI
07:32.10Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r102 / (2 files in 2 directories):
07:32.10Reporemoved "/ss help - show this message" from the help text. I figure you know how to view the help text if you are looking at it.
07:32.39Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r124 / (3 files in 2 directories): inital seed of WotLK quests....
07:32.40RepoWTB GetQuestInfo(id) api :D
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07:36.28Mikkhaha, Finklestein might be my #1 popular addon
07:36.35MikkWhich says something about that bloody quest :P
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07:39.18Repo10big-brother: 03Silberbuechse * r185 tags180/: BigBrother:
07:39.21Repo-
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07:40.48Arrowmasterrepo locked
07:42.40dodgaReanimate! 200!
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07:50.50Repo10benecast: 03Wintrow2 * r125 Button.lua: Fix to Ticket 6 by nrpieper
07:52.02Repo10benecast: 03Wintrow2 04Beta 10.0.9 * r126 : Tagging as Beta 10.0.9
07:55.34Mikk*LAUGHING MY ASS OFF*
07:55.43MikkRecent comment on FreeRefills (which I picked up maint of)
07:55.47Mikk"OMG!! THIS SUCKS!! i tried and tried, then when i got to the merchand, it bought for 20g of milk!! OMG OMG!! I had 20 g and it left me wit 20s!! UGGGGG, i would be very happy if i could get payed back!!"
07:56.18Arrowmasterreport the comment
07:56.20dodgaehehe
07:56.24Arrowmasterits trollbait
07:56.31dodga20 gold of milk
07:56.34dodgaMakes me wonder
07:56.51dodgaIs that with reputation bonus? How much milk can you actually buy with 20 gold
07:57.10Arrowmasterperty sure its not possible
07:57.46Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r103 Locales/Locale-enUS.lua: cleanup to the help text
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08:01.51dodgaYeah you'd probably run out of bag space
08:01.54Arrowmasteryou would
08:02.00Arrowmasterwhich is why i said its impossible
08:02.21dodgaYou're just trying to push me so far that I actually try it, huh
08:02.24Arrowmastermilk is less than 10s for 5
08:02.50Xinhuanmaybe he's buying that new wrath goat milk
08:03.00dodgaThat extra crispy one?
08:03.10Xinhuanhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=35954
08:03.23Xinhuan60 silver per stack
08:03.58Mikkyeah you'd ding 20 gold after 9 full bagslots then
08:04.04Mikkbut if he's that fucking poor at 70
08:04.08Mikkwho cares :P
08:05.15Mikkeither way, it's just flat out impossible that FR would buy that much in one swoop unless actually told to buy 23462645262375 of them
08:05.33Mikki could see how a bug somewhere COULD cause you to keep buying e.g. 40 of them each time you pop open the vendor
08:05.35Megalonperhaps it bought http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41731
08:05.47dodgaMaybe he's just asking for a "sane" upper bound that would make such... "uncleverness" impossible :D
08:06.23Mikkwell.. 10 stacks is a lot, but i could see how someone likes having a lot of drink
08:06.26Mikkand 10 stacks = 20 gold
08:08.12Zhinjiomaybe he thought addstack needed a quantity or something
08:08.15Zhinjioaddstack 20
08:08.18Mikkpersonally i think he's just a fucking idiot that either doesnt realize that "/fr add [Something] 99999" might hurt
08:08.19Zhinjiowham, he's outta money
08:08.33Mikkor he's just wanting to troll
08:08.39Zhinjioor that
08:09.03dodgaPeople wanting to troll
08:09.07dodgaThat is madness!
08:09.14Arrowmasterhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/smtm_alf.aspx
08:09.16Arrowmaster.....
08:09.19ArrowmasterWHY!
08:09.21theoddone33lawl rogue glitch
08:09.30theoddone337600dps on loatheb
08:09.58Mikko.O
08:09.58theoddone33next highest (me): 5100
08:10.01Mikk"glitch"?
08:10.11theoddone33yes
08:10.21Mikkwhat, it forgot to subtract his energy or summat? oO
08:10.28theoddone33I'm not sure of the specifics but the subtlety talent is bugged
08:10.40theoddone33you can basically spam finishers
08:11.07MikkMaster of SubtletyRank 3 Attacks made while stealthed and for 6 seconds after breaking stealth cause an additional 10% damage.
08:11.08Mikkthat one?
08:11.14theoddone33no
08:11.29theoddone33second, I don't want to miss rolling on shoulders
08:11.38Mikkthe only other Subtlety i can think of is the -threat one for resto druids
08:12.00theoddone33honor among thieves
08:12.26theoddone33it's glitched somehow where it procs more than it should when multiple rogues in the raid have it
08:12.27Mikkjesus christ
08:12.29Arrowmasteryeah it procs from it procing for other rogues
08:12.30theoddone33something to that effect
08:12.50Mikkso if you stick like 5 rogues in a group
08:13.03Mikkyou're basically guaranteed to have 5 combopoints per second
08:13.11theoddone33exactly
08:13.15Mikkfaints
08:13.20theoddone33he did 244 eviscerates that fight
08:13.23Mikklmao
08:13.33theoddone33347s fight
08:14.15Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r104 / (2 files in 2 directories): Added shield wall emotes for Warriors
08:15.34Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r105 changelog.txt: documentation correction
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08:17.25Arrowmasterhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/trey.aspx
08:17.27Arrowmasterwtf
08:18.17Arrowmasterhow does somebody think thats in any way useful
08:18.54Mikkmaybe lordfarlander or alar would like it
08:19.08Mikkthen they could write wrappers for trey
08:19.23Arrowmasterits about 40 lines total of just simple metatable stuff
08:19.48Arrowmasterand then a completely wrong, broken, and likely destructive usage of ace3
08:20.23Arrowmasterlocal arg = {...}
08:20.28Arrowmaster/facepalm
08:21.08Arrowmasterfor i = 1, table.getn(arg) do
08:21.12Arrowmaster/headdesk
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08:25.11Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r106 Locales (2 files in 1 directory): Updated German translation courtesy of Lexin
08:31.32Repo10finklestein: 03mikk * r8 / (2 files in 1 directory):
08:31.33RepoPrevent error on quest giving objects (like the sons of hodir anvil)
08:33.34Repo10finklestein: 03mikk 04r8-release * r9 : Tagging as r8-release
08:33.38Elkanooh, lol, Blizzard failed ^^ item levels for the top items seem to be 200, 213 and 226 but there is at least one 223 item
08:34.55Xinhuanis it a trash drop?
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08:36.30MegalonKT heroic melee cape
08:36.37evlI'm trying to make a hit-area frame so I can hide and show the default right side bars when my mouse isn't over them, making the frame is fine but if I enable mouse on the frame the underlying buttons naturally stop working, any ideas?
08:36.46Zyndrome:S
08:37.16Zyndromehttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=40403 , o rite 223
08:37.56Xinhuanreparent those bars
08:39.54evlXinhuan: make a container with a mouse over/out handler and reparent the bars into that?
08:40.01PrimerAnyone know if it's possible to suppress the "item not ready" sound?
08:40.10Xinhuanya
08:40.17PrimerI have a macro that suppresses the error output text
08:40.23Primerbut the sound is so annoying
08:40.37evlXinhuan: but does mouse events cascade? won't the containers mouse out handler fire as soon as I'm over one of it's children?
08:40.43Xinhuanu will need to children the 24 buttons
08:40.58Xinhuanand use the restricted namespace code
08:41.05Xinhuanto show/hide while in combat
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08:41.23evlI have no idea what restricted namespace code is I'm afraid
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08:42.34Xinhuanyou can download ipopbar and see how it works there, for eg
08:42.49evlah thanks, I'll try that
08:42.57Arrowmasterevl: its impossible to do exactly what you want
08:43.04evloh :(
08:43.12evlcan I ask why?
08:43.16Xinhuanits possible Arrowmaster :p
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08:43.29Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r107 Locales/Locale-deDE.lua: fixed a syntax error
08:43.45Xinhuandefault ui doesn't mess with their show/hide status
08:43.58ArrowmasterXinhuan: you can control blizz frames from the restricted namespace? i thought you could only mess with other stuff created in the restriced namespace
08:44.09Xinhuanu can
08:44.23Xinhuanin this case, its just calling button:Show and button:Hide
08:44.25Xinhuanon the 24 buttons
08:44.43Xinhuanor even easier, the 2 frames that the 24 buttons are already parented to
08:44.45Arrowmasteri still dont think thats possible in combat
08:44.54Xinhuanits possible
08:45.01Xinhuanipopbar (my addon) does it
08:45.01Arrowmasteror did they remove the menu secure header
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08:45.37Xinhuanirrelevant, u CAN call show/hide on secure frames in restricted namespace
08:45.49Xinhuanyou only have to pass in the handlers first prior to combat
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08:45.56Arrowmasterok
08:46.19evlbut I'm still confused abotu the handlers
08:46.38Xinhuanoh just look up how i did it in my addon
08:46.41evlif I have ContainerFrame and it has a mouse over/out handler that calls show/hide on it's children, won't the out handler fire when the mouse goes over a child?
08:46.41Xinhuanfor popup bars
08:46.58Xinhuanit won't, so you need a WRAP handler on all those 24 buttons too
08:47.08Xinhuanto call the parent handler
08:47.39evlahh, a bit early here, you're trying to say you do this i iPopbar too
08:47.44evlneat, steal time!
08:48.01Xinhuani don't mess with blizzard buttons there, i merely create and use my own buttons
08:48.06Xinhuanin ipopbar
08:48.10Xinhuanbut the concept is the same
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09:01.16evlIs any events fired when you pick up an action button?
09:01.59Xinhuani think so yes
09:02.04Xinhuancan't remember whichone
09:03.10Mikkevl: install devtools, use /dtevents
09:03.13Mikk~devtools
09:03.13purlIriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at   http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999  Why isn't it in the default client yet?
09:03.42Xinhuanthat event is one of those generic update ones
09:04.14Xinhuansince when u pick up a spell
09:04.18Xinhuanall buttons need to update
09:04.26evlaha, I'll check dtevents
09:04.40Xinhuanfor wow default buttons, they become "active" and draggable to, so if they were hidden, they get shown
09:05.11evlmaybe it's just as simple as ACTIONBAR_SHOWGRID
09:05.23Mikkdtevents will tell you
09:05.29Mikkit's so bloody informative it's not even silly
09:05.36Mikkhalf the time you'll see one of things you expected
09:05.42Mikkand then something that's even better
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09:47.55djsyntheanyone have any links for help understanding wrath's secure state handlers other than the main one on forums.worldofwarcraft.com?
09:48.11Arrowmasteryou looked at the pdf file?
09:48.41djsynthethe pdf file?
09:48.49Arrowmastertheres a link in the sticky
09:50.02djsynthewhich topic?
09:50.35Arrowmasterthe ui forums
09:51.48djsynthei'm in there now, there's 11 sticky's though
09:52.31djsyntheooh nevermind, found it thanks!
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10:05.12Xinhuanso we click on malygos orb to start the encounter, and he decides to land below the platform, evade for 2 minutes, then despawn
10:05.26Xinhuanthen instance doesn't reset, no orbs, no portals out
10:05.30Zyndromegg
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10:15.13ZyndromeXinhuan, have you ever had Malygos come down and melee the MT on phase 2? :P
10:15.15Zyndromewe sure have
10:16.37vhaarrif you hit 50% while he does vortex, sure
10:16.52Arrowmasterhad that happen too
10:17.02Arrowmasteralso had somebody survive a wipe somehow
10:17.56Zyndromevhaarr , is that so huh? oh well, better tell the muppets next time :<
10:18.56vhaarryour sarcasm is lost on me, sorry
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10:25.50Gnarfozpastamancer: ping
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10:28.44Repo10handy-notes_trainers: 03zarevak 07v1.1.x_Release * r20 :
10:28.45Repobranching the v1.1.x tree for further support availability for DB version 1
10:32.18evlAny way to concat two tables in lua?
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10:38.25Repo10handy-notes_trainers: 03zarevak 04v1.1.3_Release * r21 : Tagging as v1.1.3 Release.
10:38.25Repo- Fixing issues with Profession trainers.
10:38.26Repo- This is last development release of 1.1.x branch and DB version 1. Only hotfixes will be carried out until 1.2.x hits the release state.
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10:45.30Gnarfoz@project little-wigs
10:45.31RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/little-wigs/. LittleWigs. Game: WoW. ulic (Manager/Author), yoshimo (Author). Updated: 12 hours ago
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11:03.13HjalteTrying my luck again; Is there an addon that allows me to eg. always put a skull on the target of the tank in the raid group?
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11:05.40SunTsuHjalte: He could use "MarkMyTarget", but most people find that anoying
11:06.41HjalteSunTsu: It's the closest I've found to what I want, but sometimes it would just make things easier. I think it should be possible for an addon to do what I want, I guess I'm just unlucky that noone needs it :)
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11:20.03orionshockHjalte: what exactly do you need?
11:20.33sylvanaarPrimer hm?
11:20.49sb|workmorning
11:21.57Hjalteorionshock: I need an addon, that will mark the target of a specific raid member, or if possible more, with raid icons. This could be used for a fight, where all the dps needs to nuke down one target at a time in a group. I believe we have target of target information available in raids, making this somewhat easy to make, right?
11:24.22sylvanaarthere were some really good target marking mods pre 3.0
11:24.44sylvanaarthat did a little extra checking to prevent screwups
11:25.59sylvanaaroterwise you can keybind it or make a macro, because thats all blizz stuff
11:27.24sylvanaardoesn't bliz have a mainassist unit?
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11:40.29evlXinhuan: care to take a quick peek and see if I'm on the right track? http://ace.pastey.net/103920
11:41.06Xinhuancan't, i'm doing malygos
11:41.20evlweren't you doing malyos 45 mins ago?
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11:42.00evlXinhuan: if you get a small break between attempts I'd appricate it :P
11:42.37Xinhuanwhy dn't u run it
11:43.01evlat work, just wanted to check if i'm going anywhere in the right direction :D
11:43.01Xinhuanand also read the pdf on secure headers
11:43.09Xinhuani don't know
11:43.18Xinhuanwithout running the code
11:43.24Xinhuanits impossible to say
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12:37.44Xinhuanwoo 19 titles now
12:37.45Xinhuan(lol)
12:38.15Xinhuanoops make that 20
12:40.29Pneumatushow many server first titles have you had? :P
12:41.04Xinhuannone
12:41.07XinhuanDnT is on my server
12:41.16Pneumatusand you still have 20 titles :o
12:41.21Pneumatusi've only got 13 :<
12:42.54Xinhuangrand marshal, rival, scarab lord, justicar, naaru, shattered sun, adal, seeker, exalted, explorer, diplomat, hallowed, loremaster, of the alliance, champion of frozen wastes, ambassador, argent, cenarius, jenkins, bloodsail!
12:43.18Pneumatusi don't have of the alliance, argent or bloodsail
12:43.23Pneumatusor an arena titles :<
12:43.54Pneumatusmind you, i should be getting argent crusade today
12:43.59Pneumatusif i can be bothered to do any heroics
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12:45.45BelazorXinhuan: STANDARD STATEMENT INSINUATING YOUR LACK OF CONTACT WITH FEMALES
12:45.46Belazor:p
12:45.50Pneumatusooh, i get a new oracles egg today
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12:57.03Xinhuanreal programmers don't need girls :d
12:57.48GrumXinhuan == false
12:57.59Fisker-fu
12:58.15Fisker-FUFUFUFFUFUFUFFFUFUFUFUFUFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
12:58.37doom0ranyone else just have their windows shatter?
12:58.43doom0rl2sing Fisker-
12:59.27Fisker-i wasn't singing
12:59.29Fisker-i was RAGING
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13:01.36Fisker-http://i34.tinypic.com/1zg5115.jpg <-probably a GM :(
13:02.57Zyndromewut
13:03.12thulare you happy now Fisker- ? :-P
13:03.13doom0rnah
13:03.21doom0rtheir arcane surge does 25k a sec for 3 secs
13:03.24Fisker-Was camping alliance doing the aces high quest
13:03.34Fisker-And then one of the dragons attacked me
13:03.53renchaptry again
13:03.55Kalrothhaha
13:04.01renchapand see if it attacks you again
13:04.28Fisker-waiting for a BG invite
13:04.28Kalroththey do attack players, I've killed a few of them because they zerged me while on the dragon
13:05.52thulI'm lvl 71, barely, so i must have lots of sex with the female gender.
13:05.54thulJUHU!
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13:13.22Repo10lib-st: 03ddumont * r57 Core.lua: endless loop hiding rows
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13:26.35MikkFisker-: see, your whole problem is in the next line in the combat log
13:26.42MikkYou had crusader aura up.
13:26.56MikkLike all nubadins.
13:28.03diecknote the empty "damage done" windows. very paladinic :)
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13:29.09doom0rit's just cause he's a BE
13:29.14doom0rthey don't have any clue how to play
13:29.41dieckshould have rolled a shaman? :)
13:30.37thulmale be? :-(
13:30.54thulmale be paladin? :-(
13:30.56thulomgwtf.
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13:31.01thulwe all know that male, dranei DK rocks.
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13:32.10GrumFisker-: you didnt bubble? failadin
13:32.32doom0rhe would have had to hearth then
13:32.58doom0rapparently you don't get the handbook they were giving us anymore
13:34.32doom0ri think i managed to finally pluck the eyelash that was causing my eye to spasm
13:34.48doom0rnot very easy trying to get tweezers on an eyelash in the mirror
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13:39.54thulbubble + hs IS great fun, for both parties involved.
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13:43.56Fisker-Grum
13:44.05Fisker-Try looking at the passage that says "Overkill"
13:44.21Fisker-i can't bubble+hs when i'm dead
13:44.22Fisker-duh
13:44.34doom0ryou're not supposed to die
13:44.38Gruma good paladin can
13:44.45doom0r^
13:45.05Fisker-If i could've done bubble+hs i could've avoided it to begin with
13:45.10Fisker-fail logic is faaaaaaaaaaaaaail
13:45.38Grumwouldnt that be the wanted achievement? avoid dying?
13:45.58Grumif i were a paladin i'd play like this: log in, bubble, run run run! wait till bubble fades then log outt
13:46.25thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/432647670_78DMy-O.jpg <- my dk rocks.
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13:52.14evlthul: You need more sct triggers
13:52.52Pneumatusisnt that parrot?
13:52.55opant2srsly
13:53.06doom0rit's an sct mod
13:53.12doom0rsct is not proper
13:53.12Olisonmod_spam?
13:53.15doom0rSCT is
13:53.43doom0rfct may be more accepted though :)
13:54.10opant2..how do you even know what damage is being done.
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14:18.12doom0ranything besides PetList+ that improves the companion frames? without some retarded random summon?
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14:52.43Repo10simple-unit-frames: 03Pneumatus * r85 / (8 files in 1 directory): - Fix the position of Pet HP
14:52.43Repo- Improve event watching to only update what we need to.
14:53.24Zhinjiothul: http://babyblog.trippy.org/?page_id=25&g2_itemId=677
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14:54.24ckknightwhat's the title of your brother's wife's sister? is it still just sister-in-law?
14:54.55Zhinjioyeah, if you use american convention, you would add "once removed"
14:55.01ckknightokay
14:55.09ckknightin any event, she has a blog about her new baby
14:55.11Zhinjiobut that convention is dumb.
14:55.15ckknightit seems just creepy to me
14:55.40ckknightand I'm not sure the baby consented
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14:56.09trhckknight: wouldn't sister in law be more like your spouses sister?
14:56.24ckknightor your sibling's wife
14:56.27ckknighttypically
14:56.38Zhinjioboth are, yes.
14:56.55Zhinjiomy wife's sister is my sister in law, just like my brother's wife is my sister in law.
14:57.05ckknightin any event, I was trying to refer to my sister-in-law's sister
14:57.19trhbrother of one's sister-in-law would be correct
14:57.40trhor sth
14:57.57trhin germany it'd be called schwippschwäger, while the sister of my spouse would be schwager ;)
14:57.58trhanyway
14:58.30ckknighthrm
14:58.58ckknightwhat's your wife then, isn't it just Frau?
14:59.09trhehefrau would be the correct term
14:59.26trhfrau means just women
14:59.33ckknightmein Frau
14:59.40trhbut often implies married
14:59.43ckknightmah wimmenz
14:59.52ckknightyea
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15:00.07ckknightwe didn't really cover that stuff in German class
15:00.13thulZhinjio: safe wfor work? :-P
15:00.26trhckknight: it'd be meine frau ;) (yeah.. i know.. it's complicated language ;)
15:00.29Repo10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Dessa * r146 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: deDE update
15:00.32trhwe got 16 words instead of "the" ;)
15:00.33thulPneumatus: that is parrot, yes.
15:01.07ckknightder die das die den die des die dem der dem der des der des der
15:01.08ckknightwoo
15:01.14Kuja^heh
15:01.22ckknightI may have messed one up
15:01.25trhckknight: woa =)
15:01.45ckknightyea, I did
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15:01.51ckknight5th from the last is den
15:01.58thuloooh, cute Zhinjio :-D
15:02.01ckknightI know it's r-e-s-e n-e-s-e m-r-m-n s-r-s-r
15:02.33trhckknight: most germans (including me) couldn't get that table together :)
15:02.50trhckknight: it's just that you automagically use it correct ;)
15:03.06Kuja^yeah, true
15:03.23ckknighttrh: well, if it makes you feel any better, I think both English and German are shitty languages
15:03.24ckknight:-P
15:03.26thulich bin, du bist, er/sie/es ist, wir sind, ihr seit, sie/Sie sind.. hmm
15:03.28ckknighttoo many exceptions
15:03.29thuli don't remember.
15:03.33Grumso which one is better then ckknight ? :)
15:03.37thulI want the language of the culture.
15:03.38ckknightGrum: Esperanto
15:03.39thulmarian
15:03.45thulckknight: esparanto is suboptimal.
15:03.47thulwe need marian!
15:03.59MegalonPIRATE
15:04.03Megalonwe need to talk pirate
15:04.06trhthul: seid :P theres a big different between seit and seid :P
15:04.09Megalon:<
15:04.16ZhinjioI was never very good at learning proper genders for nouns in my german class.
15:04.23thulmarain!
15:04.28Zhinjiowhat "sounded right" to me was almost always correct
15:04.31thultrh: aaah, ok:P been a few years since last :-)
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15:04.39Repoadd profile selection support and change to using a default profile instead of char specific
15:04.50trhthul: hehe.. but don't worry.. many germans do it wrong too.. so many, there's even a internet-site for it ;)
15:05.01trhthul: http://www.seidseit.de/ ;)
15:05.04thulhttp://www.omniglot.com/writing/marain.htm <- that is the language for the future :-P
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15:05.14trhthul: it's usually quoted to people who make that mistake ;)
15:05.15ckknightlojban ftw?
15:05.27thulhahahahaha trh  :-P
15:05.33trhhow about brainfuck as mandatory language for everyone? ;)
15:05.47thullojban have some promise
15:07.05ckknight>+++++++++[<++++++++>-]<.>+++++++[<++++>-]<+.+++++++..+++.[-]>++++++++[<++++>-] <.>+++++++++++[<++++++++>-]<-.--------.+++.------.--------.[-]>++++++++[<++++>- ]<+.[-]++++++++++.
15:07.26thulI kind of want a gender-neutralized, math-friendly, thought-forming language
15:07.38trhckknight: hello to you too ;)
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15:07.57ckknightthul: what constitutes math-friendly?
15:08.30Repo10little-wigs: 03ananhaid * r484 / (3 files in 2 directories): LittleWigs:
15:08.31Repo- zhCN/zhTW update.
15:08.46winkillermath-friendly = it has operators. n stuff
15:09.11Chompersckk! hey dude
15:09.18ckknighthowdy, Chompers
15:09.42thulckknight: well, for instance, compare the norwegian "one, two, three...thirteeen, forteen...twentythree..", with the japanese (or was it chinese? I'm not recalling) "one, two, three...one ten-er and four one-ers...two ten-ers and four one-ers"...
15:10.02Xinhuanat malygos today, i was able to see 25 "dragons" listed on omen in phase 3
15:10.12Xinhuanall pet colored
15:10.24Xinhuanmaybe that needs to be improved
15:10.35ckknightthul: the way Esperanto handles numbers is nice
15:10.36Xinhuanbut i wasn't able to see any threat data at say in occulus
15:10.39Stanzilla"Pet: Charname"
15:12.17krkause it correctly :P
15:12.26krkahm, slow response i guess
15:12.50ckknightnulo, unu, du, tri, kvar, kvin, ses, sep, ok, naux, dek, dek unu, dek du, dek tri, dek kvar = 0-14. dudek = 20, tridek = 30. It's pretty consistent and doesn't have exceptions
15:13.20krkaswedish has no exceptions after 19
15:13.34thulckknight: I just think that language forms thought. And that I want to learn and USE a language that forms my thoughts in a positive way :-P
15:13.56ckknightthat sounds double-plus good
15:14.17ckknight(1984 newspeak reference)
15:15.58Hirsute-AwayOh, wow.  Points to you ckknight
15:16.19Mech0z_anyone seen a updated version of reputationfu?
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15:16.20Repo- Re-work vehicle enter/exit logic to remove code duplication
15:16.28ckknightokay, I need to get dressed and go to work. It's already 9:16
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15:40.12Repo- Check UnitHasVehicleUI() rather than arg2 to determine if we have the vehicleUI and need to switch fontstrings around
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15:43.25LysitheaIm looking for an addon or macro that would let me press a button that would then disenchant a certain type or maybe even named item in my bag. Does one exist? Is it even doable? Reason Im asking is I'm soon making about 400chests (and more to come) which I then have to disenchant.
15:44.24GrumLysithea: yeah i know one
15:44.27Grumits called a macro
15:44.35Grumwith: /cast Disenchant; /use ItemName
15:44.39Pneumatusyou could _possibly_ /cast Disenchant /use <itemname>
15:44.49Lysitheaah! I didnt even think about that
15:44.57Lysitheabeen trying to figure out how to do one
15:45.00Lysitheasilly me
15:45.04Grumsame for prospecting :)
15:45.17Grumor trying to turn 10 motes into a primal while having your bank open!
15:45.23Lysitheathanks alot, saves me alot of time and tedious works
15:45.23Grum<PROTECTED>
15:45.41Grumyou can even do /use xxx; /use yyy and if you dont have xxx it will try yyy
15:46.01Megalonand you can /use item:<itemid>
15:46.08Pneumatusmight wanna set autoloot on before you do that also :)
15:46.10Megalonto save space for long macros ;>
15:46.13Lysitheayeah I get the logic now, just thought that de/prospecting would require some fancy way of doing it
15:46.20Lysitheasince you have "to click it"
15:46.26Grumthe click is actually /use :)
15:47.03GrumMegalon: i think you could even do /use item:123, item:123 ...
15:47.05Pneumatusthe first line essentially gives you the disenchant cursor, and the second clicks on the item
15:47.08Grumeven shorter for multiples!
15:47.14Daemonaor you look at tekkubs Panda over at wowinterface.com
15:47.24Daemonathough that might be overkill for what you want to do Lysithea
15:47.39Megalonpanda closes evertime the lootwindow pops up
15:47.44SunTsuDaemona: I tried it once, never found out what it does and how *g*
15:47.55Megalonfor me atleast :C
15:48.07Pneumatusi only ever found 1 of tekks addons that was any use, and thats useless now too
15:48.08Grumthat is another addon for the 'worst-name-evar'-reward
15:48.29Daemonahmm was just pointing at it, because it popped up on a few forums i browsed on the weekend
15:48.33Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r168 modules/ChatLink.lua:
15:48.34RepoUser submitted reimplementation of the chatlink code. looks much cleaner. not active yet.
15:48.35Repo10mendeleev: 03Elkano * r241 / (5 files in 2 directories): - sorted output a bit
15:48.35Daemonadidnt try it myself
15:48.36Repo- removed "Badge of Justice" entry
15:48.40Repo- added CurrencyItems entry
15:49.12Lysitheanow, if only I remembered the pw to my friends acc so I could actually craft these chestpieces
15:49.24Elkanoslow repo is slow
15:49.59Grum@project mendeleev
15:49.59RepoGrum: http://www.wowace.com/projects/mendeleev/. Mendeleev. Game: WoW. Status: Out of date. Rabbit (Manager/Author), Elkano (Author). Updated: 52 seconds ago
15:50.04Pneumatushmm, autobar (and therefore PT3) is missing the new flasks :<
15:50.30Daemonapoisons too Pneumatus
15:50.36Grumand heartstone items
15:50.44Grumjust add them manually ;)
15:50.50Pneumatusno point
15:50.56Pneumatusas soon as someone runs the dataminer it will break again
15:51.09Pneumatusthe miner probably needs looking at again
15:53.06Grumis LibPeriodicTable-3.1-AutoBar generated then?
15:53.09Repo10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander 043.0.30-beta * r30 : Tagging as 3.0.30-beta
15:54.04Pneumatusautobar's PT3 sets are taken from data.lua which is partially generated by the miner
15:54.21Grumso fix the miner?
15:54.23Repo10libbabble-faction-3-0: 03Dessa * r71 LibBabble-Faction-3.0.lua: deDE update
15:54.26Pneumatusmost sets are generated by the miner if it's feasable to do it
15:54.42Pneumatussome are manually generated though, but not flasks afaik
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15:58.13Grum["Misc.Hearth"] = "37118,44314,44315,35230,32757,22589,22630,22631,22632,28585,40585,40586,6948",--NOT AUTOGENNED
15:58.17Grumlets fix it! :p
16:00.04Grumnew flasks are in Consumable.Buff Type.Flask atm
16:00.13Grumso that seems ok?
16:00.50Grumand kirintor (40585/6) seems also to be added
16:01.29GrumPneumatus: guess autobar needs a new version?
16:02.43Pneumatusyeh, appears that my version of autobar still has an old PT3 in it
16:02.47Grummeh it is in there; the last autobar alpha has the right version
16:03.03Grumr701 has the right version for sure
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16:04.58Pneumatusyeh, looks like it's in PT just not in the version i've got running
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16:05.38Repo- zhCN/zhTW update.
16:06.17Repo10grid-status-hostile-unit: 03Julith 07unitguid * r40 / (5 files in 1 directory): GridStatusHostileUnit:
16:06.18Repo- branch for grid using unit GUIDs
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16:07.23Repo- updated version
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16:09.57Repo- branched for grid using unit GUIDs
16:10.20evlIs there any special trick to looping children of a frame? I've been trying for _, button in ipairs(MultiBarLeft:GetChildren()) do but I get nothing out :(
16:11.17Repo10grid-mana-bars: 03Julith 07unitguids * r60 / (5 files in 1 directory): GridManaBars:
16:11.18Repo- branched for grid using unit GUIDs
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16:23.09RepoUpdate dataminer to assign class flags for DK, as well the new engineering goggles
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16:32.04Repo- zhCN/zhTW update.
16:32.55thulhaha, I found a book for me: The Quotable Atheist: Ammunition for Non-Believers, Political Junkies, Gadflies, and Those Generally Hell-Bound
16:36.26doom0rsounds like a dumb book
16:36.41doom0raethiest and hell-bound???!
16:37.24thul:-P
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16:49.53Brunersis there a new version of mongoose and executioneer ?
16:50.18nevcairielnot exactly, no
16:50.24nevcairielthere is a proc enchant with 400ap or so
16:50.24GnarfozBerserking!
16:50.44Megalonnice for feral tanks!
16:51.00Gnarfozright
16:51.00nevcairiel400ap make a difference in a pool of 5000+? =P
16:51.06Brunersso mongoose is still viable?
16:51.11Gnarfozno, it is 400ap/-25% armor, nevcairiel
16:51.16Gnarfozhe was trying internet sarcasm
16:51.42GnarfozBruners: viable, yes, if not for any other reason than Berserking being expensive like hell right now ^^
16:51.45nevcairielI would get agility as a feral right now simply for the mitigation, aggro is a non-issue
16:51.53thulwho has 5000 ap?! :-P
16:52.35nevcairielferals easily reach that
16:52.40nevcairielour weapons have 2000 alone
16:53.09doom0rdruid ap is way different thul
16:53.36Brunersi have 4k2 on my DK when buffed more or less
16:53.49sacarasci have 2.8k on my shaman!
16:53.57sacarascunbuffed
16:54.00thulhmm, ok. Bruners that just have to give you huge crits when blood-specced :-P
16:54.22thulI get 4500 rune strike crits at 71 with 1600 base ap.
16:54.23thulI have immense fun
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16:55.00Silberbuechsehi @ all
16:56.31Repo10fu-bar_reagent-fu: 03Dexter74 * r70 / (3 files in 1 directory): - removed Flash Powder and Blinding Powder
16:56.32Repo- add new Druide Reagents Starleaf Seed and Wild Spineleaf
16:56.33Repo- add Death Knight - Corpse Dust
16:56.36Repo- German translations
16:57.04Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r94 / (3 files in 3 directories): -- More quest items
16:58.33Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1194 ARLDataminer.rb:
16:58.33RepoAdd missing engineering goggles since they have duplicate names
17:01.47AckisWork~api AddToBlizOptions
17:01.48purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_AddToBlizOptions
17:03.01Hirsute... "WoWWiki does not have a page with this exact name"
17:03.05AckisWorkattempt to call method 'AddToBlizOptions' (a nil value)
17:04.52Megalonaceconfig thing
17:05.59AckisWorkyah, not sure what this error report is about...
17:06.18Stanzillahttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/13275671504-crystallized-fire-how-can-it-exist.html
17:06.20Stanzillahaha
17:06.23StanzillaNext!
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17:15.18Repo10grid: 03Pastamancer 07unitguid * r1078 GridLayout.lua:
17:15.19RepoUse the localized layout name to see if grid should be hidden.
17:15.28Repo10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r112 LibLordFarlander-2.0/LibLordFarlander-2.0.lua: LibLordFarlander-2.0:
17:15.28Repo- GetMapZonesWithExtra can now only return zones that allow mounting, updated its list of extra zones
17:15.29PneumatusAzethoth around here somewhere?
17:15.42Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1195 ARLDataminer.rb:
17:15.42RepoFix bugs associated with runeforging (NPC names for the trainers were missing and the spell IDs for flags and acquire were not linked properly
17:16.07Repo10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r119 / (3 files in 2 directories): Coconuts:
17:16.08Repo- Zone favorites will now only list zones that are actually mountable in
17:16.09Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Pneumatus * r95 / (2 files in 2 directories): [Reputation.Reward] Add 8 new WotLK factions
17:17.18Repo10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander 042.0.113-release * r113 : Tagging as 2.0.113-release
17:17.42Repo10coconuts: 03LordFarlander 042.0.120-release * r120 : Tagging as 2.0.120-release
17:18.31Slayman@project coconut
17:18.31RepoSlayman: No project found that matches 'coconut'
17:18.33Slayman@project coconuts
17:18.33RepoSlayman: http://www.wowace.com/projects/coconuts/. Coconuts. Game: WoW. LordFarlander (Manager/Author). Updated: 10 seconds ago. Tickets: 2/14
17:19.35Slaymanmmh who needs something like that?
17:19.57ckknighteh, I see a market
17:20.10Slaymanpossibly the person whose amount of mounts at his disposal exceed the amounts of chars in a macro i presume
17:20.12Repo10grid: 03Pastamancer 07unitguid * r1079 GridStatusAggro.lua: UnregisterAllEvents in OnDisable
17:20.25Pneumatusyeh, the name "Coconuts" is clearly a good indicator it's a mount addon
17:20.25BelazorXD
17:20.39Slaymanckknight: you got to work in time? sounded like you were going to be a little late
17:20.46pastamancerit's a monty python reference
17:20.50ckknightI got in at 9:30, Slayman
17:21.29Slayman14mins to work, you must live nearby :D (I'm impersonating the FBI impersonating google)
17:22.02ckknightSlayman: it's a 5-minute drive
17:22.28Slaymanckknight: PLEASE tell me you are not using your car for that
17:22.39ckknightof course I am
17:22.51ckknightwith gas prices the way they are, it'd be an insult to the oil companies if I didn't
17:23.04Slaymanand there goes our green earth
17:23.15ANTRatour green earth is long gone
17:23.22Repo10coconuts: 03LordFarlander 042.5.121-release * r121 : Tagging as 2.5.121-release
17:23.26ckknightdude, it's cold out.
17:23.35ckknighteven if I had a bike, I wouldn't ride it in this weather
17:23.39ckknightI'd get chilly
17:23.48ckknightmy car has heating
17:23.54pastamanceraww, it doesn't really get cold down where you are ckk :p
17:23.58ckknightcold enough
17:24.00Slaymansince we live in the same hemisphere it's cold here too, but still i get on my high horse and drive a bike to work
17:24.26CaptainSegfault5 minutes is about the bottom end of where driving makes sense
17:24.27ckknightyea, that's fine for you, I'll continue to drive
17:24.35Slaymanlooks down at the low folks from his high horse
17:24.37CaptainSegfaultbut I don't have a bike and never really learned to ride well
17:25.04ckknightif you think about it, I don't really cause all that much pollution, since I only drive 5 minutes
17:25.18Slaymanckknight: do you get a reaction similar to mine often? you seem rather offended by it
17:26.10ckknightno, I just don't harbor any good feelings toward the Earth
17:26.13ckknightMother Nature is a dick.
17:26.28ckknightI don't see why I need to be nice when she isn't
17:27.08Slaymanshe fucked you up?
17:27.56ckknighthurricanes, tornadoes, sunburn
17:28.11Slaymanuhu
17:28.12Slaymanh
17:28.14Repo10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander 044.5.141-release * r141 : Tagging as 4.5.141-release
17:28.28ckknightin any event, I don't feel bad for my behavior in the slightest
17:29.09ckknightI think other causes are more important than the whole green thing anyway
17:29.18SlaymanI don't want to argue, but that is so american
17:29.50ckknightso?
17:29.54ckknightI'm a naturalized citizen
17:29.58ckknightI'm proud to be an American
17:30.30Brunersi thought you where a Canadian
17:30.36ckknightyea, I was
17:31.01ckknightbut since I've lived here since I was 4 and have citizenship now, I consider myself an American
17:31.36Slayman"The earth is borrowed from our children" there is a lot of awesome truth in that quote
17:31.52asmodaiSlayman: Indian saying IIRC
17:31.53*** join/#wowace EthanCentaurai (n=ethan@78.145.19.34)
17:31.59Slaymanbut let's not argue anymore
17:32.12Slaymanindian as in india or nat. american?
17:32.12ckknightNative American
17:32.17Slaymansee
17:32.39Slaymanyou cramped the intelligent ppl in reservations
17:33.01ckknightTreat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children.
17:33.01ckknightWe do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children.
17:33.01ckknightWe are more than the sum of our knowledge, we are the products of our imagination.
17:33.10Repo10gathermate: 03kunda * r628 Locales/GatherMate-deDE.lua: deDE update
17:33.31ckknightif they were so smart, why did they get taken over by us?
17:33.36ckknight:-P
17:34.13SlaymanI'm starting to think not having a war in your country damaged you all a little, you would have to enlist and get out to kill or be killed
17:34.30Slaymanckknight: numbers
17:34.40ckknightalso guns
17:34.40asmodaiAlthough some people attribute it to Antoine de Saint Exupéry
17:34.53Slaymanthe little prince, great book
17:35.02asmodaickknight: How about diseases that were brought there with them having no resistance to it?
17:35.10ckknightwell, there's that
17:35.21ckknight:-P
17:35.33ckknightI harbor no ill will towards Native Americans, really :-P
17:35.48ckknightthey're a strong people we can learn from, but I think they're idealised far too much.
17:36.05Slaymanhonestly, since europe was torn apart by wars, twice in the last century it sticked with us, made us see war as not so good and as not to be brought to the middle east
17:36.44ckknightas a libertarian, I'm non-interventionist
17:37.46AckisWorklies ckknight that's not what you said in private!
17:37.50SlaymanI'm saying that, and it carries no ill-intent, america needs to be brought a real war to it, not that fancy 2 towers turned to rubble kind of stuff I mean the real deal.
17:38.19asmodaiGive it a few years and you might have internal violence anyway.
17:38.22ckknightI'm pretty sure you're a terrorist now, Slayman
17:38.26ckknight:-P
17:38.37Slaymanyou're welcome
17:38.39Repo10handynotes: 03kunda * r200 Locales/Locale-deDE.lua: deDE update
17:38.44asmodaiGiven how the gap between rich and poor is growing and how the government's been doing things in broad daylight that the common man will not appreciate, at all.
17:38.53ckknightasmodai: before or after the president's assassination?
17:39.05ckknightlet it grow.
17:39.14ckknightyes the rich are getting richer
17:39.18ckknightyes the poor are getting poorer
17:39.20ckknightbut it's okay
17:39.22Brunersthey always will
17:39.25ckknightas long as standard of living goes up
17:39.26Slaymanyeah internal war, pretty funny. that stupid north versus south resulting in one bigger country with more wealth and power? don't need more of that!
17:39.38asmodaickknight: It's not okay.
17:39.48doom0rAckisWork: tell them to disable everything but ARL so you know the lib gets loaded properly?
17:39.48asmodai1 in 10 Americans now have to get food by means of food stamps.
17:39.52asmodaiFirst world country my ass.
17:39.55asmodai:P
17:39.56ckknightSlayman: in my opinion, I think it's absurd that America is one country instead of say, 5
17:40.14ckknightI'm very much not a federalist.
17:40.16AckisWorkdoom0r: yah that'll be my next step
17:40.19ckknightI think it takes away too many rights
17:40.26Slaymanyeah the amount of laws chaning once you cross a state line is ridiculous
17:40.51ckknightwell, I'm not against that, I believe in state's rights
17:41.01Repo10grid: 03Pastamancer 041.30000.2008120802 * r1080 : Tagging as 1.30000.2008120802
17:41.02RepoHopefully this gets packaged properly.
17:41.03ckknightI just think the federal government has too many fingers in the pot
17:41.10asmodaiLike Georgia's to carry the old confederate design in their state flag? :P
17:41.17SlaymanI saw a short explanation of your presidential voting system, and it didn't make any sense to me
17:41.28AckisWork~seen kagaro
17:41.29purlkagaro <n=kagaro@cpe-065-190-128-061.nc.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19d 3h 34m 16s ago, saying: 'Im addind a new import option so you can just import wrath data'.
17:41.32Gnarfozpastamancer: so the unitguid thing going out to CC users was rather unintentional, I take it? ^^
17:41.36AckisWork:(
17:41.45Slaymanall I got was: there are swing states only these really matter.
17:41.48pastamancerGnarfoz: quite... CC shouldn't be giving people beta versions
17:41.51asmodaiAckisWork: email is the key :)
17:42.04AckisWorkI'm so confused
17:42.08AckisWorkemail for who? kagaro?
17:42.10*** join/#wowace Cynics (n=on1y@66.238.51.180.ptr.us.xo.net)
17:42.18asmodaiAckisWork: if you need to catch him ^^
17:42.29doom0rdon't read if you don't like wow spoilers http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=32404#comments
17:42.36Repo10handy-notes_flight-masters: 03kunda * r72 Locales/Locale-deDE.lua: deDE update
17:42.43asmodaipastamancer: it doesn't, it has an option for that as far as I know :)
17:42.45ckknightpastamancer: packaged properly
17:42.48Brunershow can i get my addon to only print out when people go offline/online, and not everytime GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE is run
17:43.02pastamancerckknight: yay
17:43.24Pneumatusckknight: only the -nolib is showing in the files list
17:44.11ckknightwtf
17:44.16Pneumatus500 on uploading files
17:44.20Pneumatusyour disk full again?
17:44.35ckknightno, I just did a code change
17:44.37ckknighthang on.
17:44.54SlaymanPneumatus: someone upped porn on curse, and cramped it up the avaible diskspace? me likee
17:46.09Fingodammit
17:46.12FinI left my phone in my trousers
17:46.15FinI hate having to get up
17:46.26Finextracts himself from his comfy chair
17:46.30selckinanyone done 3 dragon heroic sarth?
17:46.33EthanCentaurai*cough*lazy*cough* :P
17:46.58Gnarfozckknight: packaged properly = changelog contains error msg? ^^
17:47.20AckisWorkfin: or you can let the phone ring?
17:47.25ckknightI was wrong, hang on.
17:47.35ckknightit packaged fine, just didn't upload fine
17:47.52EthanCentauraisuspects Fisker- of sabotage
17:48.19FinAckisWork: actually I wanted to call someone else, so there was no option
17:48.33Finand EthanCentaurai, it's not laziness! merely being energy-efficient
17:48.34AckisWorkI'm sorry to hear that
17:48.35Finnods, yes
17:48.54EthanCentauraixD!
17:48.55CIA-50wowbench: 03captainsegfault * r190 10/trunk/api.lua: Add stub for CloseAuctionHouse
17:49.08Finstill, crisis over, phone retrieved - situation downgraded to normal again
17:49.21AckisWorkbut you have to dial now
17:49.27Fininforms the press
17:50.05Pneumatuspastamancer: are you just tagging so people will stop getting the unitguid branch zip by default?
17:50.12Finhonestly, it's a massive pain to get myself out of my current position - I'm sitting in an easy chair with a ... shit actually I'll just take a picture
17:50.41EthanCentauraiis it one of those Lay-Z-Boy chairs with the minifridge built in?
17:50.47Pneumatus(assuming they have beta set)
17:51.34Finslaps his forehead
17:51.39EthanCentauraimy girlfriend want one of those
17:51.47Finof course - taking the picture meant I had to extract myself again
17:51.48Finoh well
17:51.53Finit's in the name of science
17:52.13EthanCentauraifalls off his stool with laughter
17:52.53ckknighthehe, stool
17:53.23EthanCentauraiyeah my... last chair... it collapsed as I farted >.>
17:53.50Xinhuanstrong fart
17:53.59EthanCentauraiweak chair :P
17:54.09nevcairiela bit of both
17:54.11SlaymanThey started calling me the destroyer at local furniture store :°(
17:54.33Slaymanand it has nothing to do with flatulences!
17:54.55EthanCentauraiit was one of those collapsible wooden things you take on picnics ok? it's not designed to hold 13 stone of human day in day out :P
17:55.37EthanCentauraiwhat happened to you then Slayman? :)
17:55.57SlaymanEthanCentaurai: Well I stole a chair from work
17:56.10EthanCentauraitsk tsk
17:56.11SlaymanEthanCentaurai: it's still holding up pretty good.
17:56.42Xinhuan~dict a la carte
17:56.42pastamancerPneumatus: partly, but also partly because the zip for the previous tag was empty
17:57.16SlaymanXinhuan: i could have told you that too
17:57.25Xinhuani just wanted something to cut and paste into /g
17:57.30Repo10little-wigs: 037destiny * r485 Howling_Fjord/Controller_and_Constructor.lua: Fix "Enfeeble" bar icon
17:57.43Slaymani see
17:57.54EthanCentaurai~dict old
17:59.07Slaymananyone aware that in 10man naxx GW Faerlina the frenzytimer is off, doesn't recognise if you kill the add before frenzy or after frenzy
17:59.08*** join/#wowace Iboong (n=user@77.87.207.194)
18:00.51Finhttp://fin.instinct.org/shots/computer-setup.jpg  # there! I have to take move the lap-pillow, wheel the chair back, push the desk with the mouse to one side, and then reverse everything when I want to get back in
18:01.25*** join/#wowace Irish` (n=irish@adsl-177-87-214.gsp.bellsouth.net)
18:01.59Slaymandoesn't really look all that comfy, Fin
18:02.00nevcairiellol
18:02.05nevcairielYou dont move much, i guess
18:02.08Slaymana round table
18:02.11Finnot if I don't have to!
18:02.22Finit's actually really comfortable once I'm installed correctly
18:02.47EthanCentauraiwhat operating system does the chair have? :)
18:02.48Slaymanyeah the installation of the player takes some time i guess
18:02.53AckisWorkhttp://www.wowhead.com/?search=Duskweave+Boots#recipes <-- what are the differences between those two?
18:03.07*** join/#wowace Silberbuechse (n=decy@p54A1540F.dip.t-dialin.net)
18:03.22FinEthanCentaurai: it's a dumb terminal, if anything
18:03.23nevcairielthe second one is bogus
18:03.48Silberbuechseia anybody here who can help a nerd :)
18:04.06SlaymanSilberbuechse: that really depends on what kind of help you need
18:04.06Finwhat's a nerd?
18:04.11Fin(tee hee)
18:04.14AckisWorknevcairiel: the one that takes frostweave and thread?
18:04.16HirsuteAnd what kind of nerd you are.
18:04.43EthanCentauraiAckisWork: found a possible typo in the .pkgmeta of ARL; embeds.xml points to libs\LibBetterBlizzOptions-1.0\LibBetterBlizzOptions-1.0.lua but the downloaded directory is libs\LibBetterBlizzOptions\LibBetterBlizzOptions-1.0\LibBetterBlizzOptions-1.0.lua
18:05.09Silberbuechsea nerd that dont get access to a svn :D
18:05.19AckisWorkEthanCentaurai: tyvm
18:05.26Slaymanare you a coder?
18:05.27Finalso, phase of the moon, day of the week (see: phase of the moon), level of politeness, current actual attendance on IRC, current annoyance level of IRC participants, and overall knowledge pool size
18:05.28EthanCentaurai:)
18:05.45Finthe first two items may be lies
18:06.02Hirsutealong with the cake
18:06.08FinTHERE IS NO CAKE
18:06.10EthanCentauraithe cake is a lie :/
18:06.17SilberbuechseSlayman: i need a little help with tortoise and svn
18:06.22Finlua> print(cake)
18:06.22lua_botFin: nil
18:06.24Finsee
18:06.35EthanCentauraiepic win Fin :D
18:06.40Hirsutelua> print(spoon)
18:06.41lua_botHirsute: nil
18:06.59doom0rFin: time to build a desk
18:07.13Findoom0r: I would've bought one, but I'm only in this flat for another two months
18:07.27Fin+max
18:07.32doom0rstore bought desks blow
18:07.39Slaymanyeah as far as I can tell the ppl here don't really like it all that much if you bypass curse for updating reasons, but if you want to commit there may be help for you
18:07.39Findepends on the store
18:07.46EthanCentauraiwhat happens after two months?
18:07.47doom0ranything short of a wood shop?
18:07.59Finhang on a second
18:08.30Finhere: http://www.hillsofficefurniture.com/workstations.asp
18:08.33Finthese guys are good
18:08.44Finas an example
18:08.48EthanCentauraihow much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck norris?
18:08.51SlaymanIkea made my deks
18:08.55Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1196 / (2 files in 2 directories):
18:08.56RepoFix embeds (ethan it was an embeds issue, not a .pkgmeta issue
18:09.00Slaymanwell I did and Ikea provided parts
18:09.10Finalthough, I will agree that custom-built desks are going to be better
18:09.12EthanCentauraikk
18:09.15doom0ruh
18:09.20Finjust doesn't have the resources for that at the moment
18:09.29doom0rbuy some two-bys and some plywood
18:09.38doom0rgo to town
18:09.44doom0rmy current desk is u-shaped
18:09.56Fin+ tools + space to assemble
18:10.02doom0r1x4 on the left, 3x6 across the middle, 2x4 on the right
18:10.07EthanCentauraimy current desk is a converted bunk bed
18:10.08doom0rbuilt in place
18:10.10Slaymanmine is rectangonal, but 2m 25cms long ^^
18:10.29doom0rmines a full nine feet wide
18:10.42Slayman~convert 9ft
18:10.50Finto what?
18:10.52Finyards?
18:10.55Slaymandoom0r: get a grip of the metric system!
18:10.59pastamancerfurlongs
18:11.17winkillerfurbolgs
18:11.17Fin9 feet = 0.0136363636 furlongs
18:11.23doom0rlil less than 3 meters
18:11.32pastamanceractually, do it in smoots
18:11.33winkiller4 feet = 1 furbolg
18:11.39pastamancerI forgot google could convert that
18:11.40doom0rSlayman: tell me how hard it is to do math on plywood in metric system
18:11.41Pneumatus9 feet = 1.6119403 smoots
18:11.44Slaymansweet, sadly my wall is not that lonh
18:11.50doom0rthen you'll see why customary is used
18:12.11Fin9 feet = 0.00170454545 miles, 2 743.2 millimeters, or 1 bare foot
18:12.13Slaymandoom0r: xcuse me?
18:12.31Finremembers he was going to call someone, and calls them
18:12.38doom0r4x8 is easier to work with, 16 in studs on center is easier
18:12.47doom0rmetric system is horrible in carpentry
18:12.56Fisker-slaps doom0r around a bit with a large trout
18:13.22doom0reither way, my desk is sitting on doubled up and square braced 2x4's
18:13.28SlaymanFin: 10000 millimeter = 1000 centimeter = (100 decimeter) = 10 meter, that's metric goodness
18:13.29doom0ri can put a couple thousand lbs on it
18:13.35pentium166obviously they need to change standard material sizes to be in metric whole numbers
18:13.55doom0rpentium166: which still hasn't happened, and probably won't
18:14.00doom0rlet alone, it doesn't matter
18:14.03Findoom0r: is that often an issue?
18:14.10doom0rwhen you start doing fractions, it ends up being way more work
18:14.16doom0rFin: the weight?
18:14.17Slaymandoom0r: cuz USA can afford to do their very own shit
18:14.21Finnods
18:14.23doom0rno
18:14.24pentium166when the revolution happens, 4x8s will be first against the wall
18:14.26doom0rnot really
18:14.33Fin(although, actually, the standard sizes have changed in the EU, hrm)
18:14.36NeoTronso has anyone done the "Gotta Go" achievement?
18:14.46doom0rbut i wanted it to be rock stable, plus i have to put an A/C unit in in the window behind it
18:14.55SlaymanNeoTron: anub'arak in <2mins?
18:14.57doom0rso i have to hold a 100lb a/c while being on it
18:15.02NeoTronSlayman: yep
18:15.06Xinhuanme
18:15.12Slaymannot doable at the moment
18:15.23Xinhuanmy red protodrake is alliance 3rd ;p
18:15.25NeoTronwe have one person with just that one left and I have that one +2 easy ones in Drak'tharon
18:15.29NeoTronSlayman: it's doable
18:15.30Slaymanexcept for a variety of exploits
18:15.32NeoTronXinhuan: 4-5 dps?
18:15.40Xinhuan1 tank, 4 dps
18:15.43Slaymanand major overgearing
18:15.44Xinhuanyour healer has to spec dps
18:16.09Xinhuanalso u should get 1 or 2 mages to abuse the spellstolen buff from the valkyr aspirants (so u need a lock to summon as well)
18:16.15NeoTronhe can't do down more than once right?
18:16.22Xinhuanya
18:16.27doom0rwoot, just got another rare in northrend
18:16.32Xinhuanand despite that u need 2 win RNG twice with 2 locast swarms
18:16.41Xinhuanneed a boss explanation?
18:17.02NeoTronI know how it works, just seems very hard. We only had 3 dps though, not 4
18:17.16Xinhuanboss mechanic 1: some time after 75%, 50% ad 25% health, he will burrow, and summon a wave of adds
18:17.33Slaymanhow much grpdps was necessary? 12-15k or some shit like that ?
18:17.42Xinhuanthe mechanic is such that if you manage to burn him to 50% just as he first burrows, he summons both waves in that burrow
18:17.54Xinhuanhowever, you CANNOT burn that much DPS
18:17.55XinhuanUNLESS
18:18.06Xinhuanhe casts locust swarm between 100-76%
18:18.12Xinhuanby giving you an extra 7 seconds
18:18.36Xinhuanthat is, if say he casts locust swarm at 90%, you burn him to 60% in that 7 seconds, then he starts his burrowing at 60%
18:18.52Xinhuanand u pray he hits 50% as he ends his burrowing animation and summons 2 waves
18:19.03Xinhuanif he doesn't, u lost, just wipe and try again
18:19.22Xinhuanso now, he'll resurface at 49%, same thing, pray he casts locust swarm between 49%-24%
18:19.28Xinhuanso that he starts burrowing at 10%
18:19.29NeoTronsemes like two shammies would be nice. one resto as elemental, one enhance... just so you don't have to wit 10m between tries
18:19.40Xinhuanno, if you bring a healer, u lose
18:19.48NeoTron"resto as elemental"
18:19.57NeoTronlast I checked, elemental isnot a healing spec
18:20.00Slaymanelemental dps duxx atm
18:20.04Xinhuanits not just that, he has to reglpyh as well
18:20.27NeoTronpoing
18:20.42Xinhuananyway, if he does NOT cast locust swarm, you can't do 50% per "phase"
18:20.50Xinhuanso basically you need RNG twice
18:21.01NeoTronwhy locust swarm specifically?
18:21.08Slaymanlongest cast
18:21.10Slaymanhe has
18:21.12NeoTronand I'd say he has to do it around 76%
18:21.14Xinhuancos its a 5 sec cast, with curse of tongues, its like 7 seconds
18:21.14Grumbecause with CoT it takes eons to cast
18:21.18NeoTronif he does it at 90% you're still fucked
18:21.23NeoTronand it's a 4s cast not 5
18:21.27Xinhuanyeah
18:21.37Xinhuanwell i had a locust swarm cast at 90%, still managed to get him to 52%
18:21.43Xinhuanignite ticks brought him below 50%
18:21.50Xinhuanthat is, he took 2% underground
18:21.59Xinhuani was doing 13k crits (frostfire bolt), and that doesn't count ignite yet (40% of that 13k)
18:22.03NeoTronactually locust swarm is 3s cast, carrion beetles is 4s
18:22.12NeoTronpound is 3.2
18:22.25Xinhuani was just using locust swarm as an example though
18:22.25SlaymanXinhuan: armory profile plz
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18:22.27Repo10baddiel: 03Jncl * r41 Baddiel.lua: Baddiel: BugFix
18:22.36Xinhuanyou need him to cast at least 1 of any those spells
18:22.36NeoTronwhat about heroism use?
18:22.45Xinhuanuse when he comes up at 49%
18:22.51NeoTronhe always casts it from what I can see, just not usually anywhere near 75%
18:22.55Silberbuechsehere is my problem: last night i do my first step with tortoise/svn. i tagged a project (big brother) as a release & commit it. today i get a message that my authorization failed.
18:22.56Xinhuani.e you pass the first RNG test
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18:23.34StanzillaI bet that was arrowmaster removing your access :p
18:23.36NeoTronthink I'd have to spec blood for this. unholy doesn't really have any "dps timers" to use
18:24.08XinhuanSlayman: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-reputation.xml?r=Blackrock&n=Xinhuan
18:24.11Silberbuechsehmm i think that was correct. im looking for a way to go back
18:24.14Xinhuanjust navigate to the gear page yourself lol
18:24.32Primersylvanaar: never mind, it's not Prat (that's breaking the right click context menu), as chatter does the same thing
18:25.24Xinhuanand NeoTron: http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=29569
18:25.28Xinhuanthat's the mob u need to spellsteal
18:25.31Xinhuancheck the buff
18:25.41XinhuanNetanoia
18:25.45XinhuanMetanoia
18:26.18NeoTronok so I have an idea for the group we need to do this with
18:26.41Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r702 / (19 files in 1 directory): -- Alpha version of Ace3 config
18:26.45Xinhuanmy group was prot pally, mage, mage, lock, ele shaman
18:26.45sylvanaarPrimer i see
18:27.00Primersylvanaar: I don't suppose you have any idea what might cause that?
18:27.16Primerhrmm, perhaps a recently installed addon (hack is the only one that comes to mind)
18:27.23Primeror key binding changes?
18:27.25Xinhuananother group was feral druid tank, mage, ele shaman, boomkin, lock
18:27.42Xinhuanboth completed Gotta Go
18:27.54linear`lock for tongues is the best
18:28.21PrimerDoes anyone know if it's possible to prevent the default sound heard (not the emote) when a trinket is not available, but used in a macro (which suppresses the emote text)?
18:28.23Xinhuanprimarily, the lock is for tongues, dps and summoning the mage just as he spellsteals the buff
18:28.25PrimerAnd if so, how?
18:28.26ShefkiXinhuan: Nice level 80 icon. :P
18:28.34Xinhuanlol
18:28.41Repo10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r114 LibLordFarlander-2.0/LibLordFarlander-2.0.lua: LibLordFarlander-2.0:
18:28.42Repo- Stupid concat not working how I expect :p
18:29.09ShefkiYou're slow with Hodir too. :P
18:29.15Toadkillerwahts a liblordfarlander?
18:29.19Primeryes or no will suffice
18:29.33ShefkiToadkiller: If you have to ask you don't want to know.
18:29.37PrimerToadkiller: I looked at it briefly a while back. Seems to be additional infor to libperiodictable
18:29.47PneumatusToadkiller: any idea why im getting buttons with no texture on autobar on my hp/mana pot buttons?
18:29.53Pneumatus(in the popups)
18:30.00SlaymanXinhuan: your Achievements is crazy, I would gank you just for that
18:30.01ToadkillerPneumatus: yes I can answer that!
18:30.11Xinhuandid u see my feats of strengths list ;p
18:30.13ToadkillerFor somne bizarre reason endless pots are ... hosed
18:30.16Xinhuani still need some more
18:30.27Repo10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander 042.0.115-release * r115 : Tagging as 2.0.115-release
18:30.38PneumatusToadkiller: when i enter a BG it shows endless pots ok though :o
18:30.40Repo10coconuts: 03LordFarlander 042.5.122-release * r122 : Tagging as 2.5.122-release
18:30.59Pneumatuswell, it shows them as the default choice on in a BG
18:31.26ToadkillerYeah, it may be because of that and the pvp category overwrites the general one, but disabling it had no effect so I am baffled at the moment.
18:31.43Toadkiller*make that startled
18:33.16SlaymanXinhuan you are lacking an Ice Mammoth my friend
18:33.27Xinhuansons rep not there yet
18:33.48NeoTronXinhuan: would you say you basically need all melee or all ranged for synergy?
18:33.56NivFreakI'm still irritated by the sons rep
18:33.57Xinhuanyes
18:34.02Xinhuanand i'm going with all ranged
18:34.03NivFreakfor marginally better shoulder enchants
18:34.16Xinhuanas being more viable
18:34.18SlaymanXinhuan but moneywise you're cool? got to the choppa alright and have your fanclub follow you on your mammoth?
18:34.30sylvanaarPrimer what was it again
18:34.32Xinhuanya still have 80k
18:34.56Primersylvanaar: Right click on a name in Prat or Chatter is the same as left clicking
18:35.06PrimerI noticed this when Prat was upgraded
18:35.06Grumlol why is wow so lame that it doesnt let you re-link uncolored links? ><
18:35.09Primerrecently
18:35.25Primerso I'm not sure if Prat set something, or what
18:35.40NivFreakworks fine for me
18:35.49MikkIt's entirely possible that you have an addon that fucks up the SetItemRef hook
18:35.49PneumatusPrimer: i use prat and if i right click a name i get the player context menu
18:35.51NivFreakdo you have something else fucking with you rchat frames?
18:36.00NivFreakyour chat frames even
18:36.04PrimerPneumatus: yeah, that's what it used to do
18:36.17MikkPrimer: disable everything except Prat
18:36.20Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r703 libs/: -- Alpha version of Ace3 config
18:36.21MikkSee if it still borks
18:36.23PrimerNivFreak: only addon I've installed recently is hack
18:36.46MikkI'll also point out that QuestQuery breaks SetItemRef
18:36.48sylvanaarhe already did Mikk
18:37.01GrumMikk: was that one for me? :)
18:37.11Grumoh nevermind..
18:37.12Primerwell, no. I uninstalled Prat and installed Chatter
18:37.17Primerwhich does the same thing
18:37.32MikkGrum: Depends. Can you fix QuestQuery? If so, it was :P
18:37.42Grumofcourse i could but i wont
18:37.46Grumsome people dont deserve it ;)
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18:39.57Primeruninstalled Hack...and now it works
18:41.17Pneumatusan addon called "Hack"? :o
18:41.40Primeryeah
18:41.48PrimerI'm not 100% sure this will fix it
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18:42.56Pneumatusthey should have made Blue Drake an achievement FoS
18:42.59ShefkiWhat does an addon named Hack doe?
18:43.07Pneumatusas all the other bloody rare drop dungeon mounts are :<
18:43.14ShefkiPneumatus: Agreed.
18:43.25selckinsome are feat of strenght :\
18:43.39ShefkiThat's what he said.  FoS = Feat of Strength
18:43.49selckincries under his rock
18:44.27selckinanyone who can keep their mt alive more then 3 min on heroic 3 dragon sarth?
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18:44.45Pneumatuswe have been repeatedly getting the first drake down
18:44.51Pneumatusbut things tend to get messy after that
18:45.03selckinsame, almost 2nd drake down aswel
18:45.11selckinbut we run out of cooldown to rotate on mt :\
18:45.22pastamancerShefki: hack is a notepad for programmers
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18:45.32Pneumatusmake the MTs use slower weapons to take less damage from the 3rd guys portal debuff perhaps :P
18:45.44selckinmt stops attacking completely
18:45.51selckinits the 40k breaths
18:45.59NeoTronget more health!
18:46.06selckin39k pre debuff :\
18:46.28NeoTronmoar moar
18:46.39NeoTronseriously I doubt my guild can do it until we get ulduar gear
18:46.49NivFreakPneumatus: I have the blue protodrake, hehe
18:46.50NeoTronthe difference between 10 and 25 man gear
18:46.55selckinthere has to be a "trick"
18:47.17Pneumatusselckin: i've watched the vodka vid so many times, and i just cant work out how they are taking so little damage compared to what I see in raids
18:47.20selckinwe've been trying the add killing tricks or keeping one alive to not get 2nd portal and all stuff we heared about
18:47.35selckinPneumatus: same.
18:47.42Pneumatusi think we're gonna end up doing 2 drakes tonight and having another week of gearing
18:47.51NeoTronwe'll try 1 drake again
18:47.52selckinwe did 2 drakes first try :\
18:48.04NeoTronmaking sure to pick the 100% shadow dmg one, not the 25% less health one
18:48.12NeoTron10-man mind you
18:48.21selckinnot tried it on 10man yet
18:48.28Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r237 / (8 files in 6 directories): XPerl:
18:48.29Repo- Fixed health formatting for negative numbers (healer modes).
18:48.30Repo- Casting bars now match the unit if you're on a vehicle.
18:48.31Repo- Player's pet now also has threat display.
18:48.34NeoTronfrom what I understand it, it's harder
18:48.35Pneumatustenebron is easy for the 1-drake setup in both 10 and 25man
18:48.45Pneumatuswhich is the shadow damage buff one
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18:49.13Pneumatusif you can burn tenebron before the 2nd whelp hatching you'll clear it easy
18:49.26Pneumatusif you get a 2nd wave of whelps it can get messy without a decent geared 3rd tank
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18:50.51selckinsome wws reports make me beleive some use fire resistance
18:51.23NivFreakor Aura and a lot of RNG? :)
18:51.38selckin30% + resist, we have like 15% with aura
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18:51.58NivFreakresist flasks?
18:53.18SlaymanNivFreak: you cannot resist flasks
18:53.29Pneumatusresist flasks are only +35 tho :<
18:53.30Slaymantheir attraction is overwhelming
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18:54.09PrimerShefki: It's basically a text pad for executing lua
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18:55.24Slaymani forgot, I actually have to do some work here
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18:55.55NeoTronPneumatus: do you enter the portal as normal?
18:56.07NivFreakso has vodka not commented on what they did to down 3 drakes?
18:56.11NeoTronwe got the wrong one, but it seems like with the guardians inside you need 3 tanks
18:56.41Pneumatusonce we have the first drake down, the AoEers finish burning whelps then everyone jumps in the portal
18:56.46NeoTronselckin:  frost spec DK tank :P
18:56.48Pneumatusbut generally, we fail
18:57.01NeoTron280 resistance from aura + talents
18:57.11NivFreakjebus
18:57.16Pneumatusi found a wws of a 3-drake sartharion, and they only used 5 healers :<
18:57.20selckinNeoTron: yeah we are considering that, but only have 1 active dk atm, still gearing up a bit
18:57.26NivFreakwhat's cap now? 415 or something?
18:57.35Pneumatuslua>83*5
18:57.35lua_botPneumatus: 415
18:57.38selckinPneumatus: its quite easy healing wise. 4 tanks all with 1 healer is fine, and 1 raidhealer perfect
18:57.38Pneumatusyes
18:57.39NivFreakwin
18:57.54Lysitheais it possible to make a normal WTS [Whatever item] macro?
18:57.57NeoTronPneumatus: do all the drakes come at the same time?
18:58.07LysitheaI cant figure out how to have itemlinks in such a macr
18:58.07Lysitheao
18:58.08PneumatusNeoTron: no, they add at specific times in the fight
18:58.17NeoTronok so same as with just one
18:58.30selckinideally terobron is dead before 2nd joins
18:58.42NivFreakbut then you get 2nd and 3rd up at the same time it looks like?
18:58.43selckinhe kinda has to be, only 1 wave of whelps
18:58.51selckinyes, 2nd and 3rd up
18:59.12selckinthats where the adds buff sarth, and your mt gets one shottted for 40k, with -25% hp buff :\
18:59.50doom0rLysithea: look at one of the links that one of the db sites generate
18:59.52NivFreakoh, so the debuffs come as the drakes land?
19:00.04selckinyou have all 3 debuffs from the start
19:00.14selckinbut the adds in the portal will buff sarth with extra +100% damage
19:00.18NivFreakah
19:00.25NeoTronso the auras they give out only take effect when they are engaged in combat?
19:00.26Lysitheadoom0r yes but how do I use that itemid for a /2 msg [itemlink] ?
19:00.27selckinand the immune etc
19:00.34NeoTronah you just said  :P
19:00.55NivFreakis there a range on that buff maybe?
19:01.08NeoTronI can't see how you can handle the two non-whelp drakes with just 2 tanks in a 10-man
19:01.11selckinyou can't take sarth out of the middle platform
19:01.14doom0rLysithea: you're not following, not the url, the link that those sites generate so you can paste an itemlink in game
19:01.15NivFreakright
19:01.19NivFreakbut that's sarth
19:01.21NeoTronthe add on the inside needs a tank from what we noticed
19:01.26selckinportals spawn where they spawn
19:01.38Lysitheadoom0r that only past it in the chatframe, not as a message to a channel
19:01.46selckinnevcairiel: dps warrior or shaman can tank it fine with a healer
19:01.51NeoTronNivFreak: considering you get the aura before you can even target the drakes I doubt it matters
19:01.52selckinnevcairiel: err sorry
19:02.00doom0rsend the output to a channel
19:02.08NivFreakNeoTron: the 100% dmg increase on sarth?
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19:02.19NivFreak:P
19:02.21Pneumatusselckin: only thing i can thing of on top of tank cooldowns is for any holy priests to rotate through guardian spirit also
19:02.32selckini heared something about stunlocking the adds, but we haven't had success with that
19:02.36LysitheaIll dig some more, that's the exact thing I've got problem with
19:02.50selckinPneumatus: we are rotating, pain supression, shield wall, blessing of sacrifice etc
19:02.57Pneumatusblimey :o
19:06.00Lysitheaah, solved it when I found some proffesion macro
19:06.27PrimerConfirmed. Hack was the culprit (which prevented right click context menus in Prat and Chatter)
19:07.53NeoTronNivFreak: mainly I think you just need to deal with it
19:08.51doom0rLysithea: SendChatMessage?
19:09.07Lysitheayeah that was what I was looking for
19:09.20Lysitheadidnt really know how I used it
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19:09.32sylvanaarPrimer who wrote Hack?
19:09.44sylvanaarsounds familiar
19:09.54doom0rsylvanaar: Mud
19:10.13Primersylvanaar: I installed it to help with my development, recommended by someone here
19:10.23sylvanaarah
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19:10.31Jyggais there a way to rename templates in talented ?
19:10.57Primer<pastamancer> should work, or just use a coding notepad like luaslinger or hack
19:11.00doom0rJygga: click the name when it's loaded
19:11.05SunTsuJygga: Just load it and change the name
19:11.05doom0ryou'll get a cursor
19:11.07Jyggaoh noez
19:11.09Primersylvanaar: ^^^^^^
19:11.15basslingothen hit enter when done :P
19:11.15Jyggathanks ^^
19:11.16Primerhack's on wowi, not curse
19:11.35sylvanaarcladhaire wrote one called wowlua
19:12.15sylvanaaractually i dont know what hack does
19:13.25Primerit just stores scripts and allows you to execute them
19:13.32Primerplainly put
19:14.16doom0ralso don't forget, For all indents and purposes
19:14.36PrimerI never ended up using it
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19:14.42Primerthe code I'd have to replace is huge
19:14.50Primerand unless I can pull the code up from hack, it's useless
19:15.55selckinwe're trying dk tank now!
19:16.11Repo10xrs: 03Zidomo * r193 / (2 files in 2 directories):
19:16.12Pneumatuswe're a tank down so we're doing 2 drakes tonight it seems
19:16.12Repo--remove AddonLoader support. Its broken in conjunction with XRS in WoW 3.0.3.9183. It causes several other mods to stop functioning (with errors) on the XRS load attempt; XRS also never gets loaded.
19:16.13Repo--fix SVN externals properties for the libs directory
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19:16.52NivFreakso which drake do you kill when doing 2/3?
19:18.13selckinany :\
19:18.22NeoTron25% health reduction vs 100% more fire damage
19:18.24NeoTronyes?
19:18.39NivFreakseems like 25% is win, but I don't know :)
19:18.45NivFreakas in
19:18.49NivFreakkeep the 25% debuffing drake
19:18.54selckinyeah 25% is nice, unless your raid fails to dodge the big  walls of fire
19:19.02NeoTronin 10-man, it was really hard when the MT went down to 24k health or so
19:19.23NivFreakyea, I'd be at 26K or so
19:19.36PrimerDoes anyone know if it's possible to prevent the default sound heard (not the emote) when a trinket is not available, but used in a macro (which suppresses the emote text)?
19:20.56basslingodunno, my sound is awlays off :P
19:21.21PneumatusClique seems to surpress it, not sure how tho
19:21.58selckinPrimer: you can remove any sound but dropping a 0 byte file with the right name in the right folder
19:22.22Primerselckin: yeah, I read that one hack, but I wasn't sure if that was still "kosher"
19:22.25selckinPrimer: http://www.selckin.be/FrellingTrains.rar will remove all /train  for example
19:22.27Primersince it was an old post
19:22.35selckinPrimer: it doesn't change any game files, should be allowed
19:22.35NivFreakawww
19:22.39NivFreakyou have to love the /train
19:22.47selckintrain set in 25 man raid is just /cry
19:23.00NivFreakhaha
19:23.00Primerheh, I need to find the fucking core hound trampling sound too
19:23.04NivFreakI have mine ready
19:23.07basslingoi <3 the DK /train :P
19:23.09Pneumatusyeh that trainset needs to diaf
19:23.20NivFreakI'm waiting for my next chance to use it
19:23.21selckinPrimer: some on wowinterface to remove those named "nomoresomething" or so
19:23.28NivFreakgonna drop a feast, then it underneath
19:23.40selckinin the middle at KT imo
19:23.43Primerselckin: yeah, I saw that, but hesitated to use it since it was old
19:23.52NivFreakselckin: hah
19:24.01selckinits quite fun to use and watch everyone just swarm away
19:24.20Primerhttp://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=mod&m=3976
19:24.25Primerno_errorsounds
19:24.34selckinworldofwar = keylogger central
19:24.42NivFreakso man, sapphron is a joke with 2xCOH priests
19:24.52NivFreakotherwise, it kinda sucks without FrR
19:24.59Xinhuanbounce PoM too
19:25.04selckini've never used FfR on sapph :\
19:25.10selckineven have both -100 achievements
19:25.43Pneumatususing Baby Spice on bosses is made of win
19:25.46selckinnaxx is too easy really
19:26.09AeyanFrell those trains
19:26.09Xinhuanhow long does baby spice last
19:26.16Pneumatuslike 30sec
19:26.25Xinhuani'll keep for malygos next time lol!
19:26.28Aeyan30 sec
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19:26.31Xinhuansmaller hit box makes it easier
19:26.49NivFreakXinhuan: PoM is amazing too
19:27.02NivFreakI guess our second priest said he really only did a little CoH
19:27.11NivFreakI wonder if a 2nd PoM made that much of a difference
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19:43.25selckinppl crying to officiers to ban train sets
19:43.29selckinit's just epic really
19:44.19HirsuteOooooh those train sets.
19:44.26Hirsute*shakes head*
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19:45.56Fisker-don't do it on kel'thuzad though Xinhuan
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19:46.28HirsuteThe heck is baby spice?
19:46.43Xinhuanhttp://warcraftmovies.com/
19:46.44Xinhuantop download
19:46.48Xinhuan2-man loatheb
19:46.51HirsuteOooooh.  That's awesome
19:46.52Xinhuanon 25-man mode
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19:47.31Xinhuanby Pai - Paladin, Smiley - Warrior; Überspitzen; Todeswache - EU
19:47.36Xinhuanhe fight took 3:12 hours from pull. The biggest challenge for us were to be focused the whole time, we missed three times the 3-sec-healing-phase which brought us into big trouble (ie had to use all cooldowns)
19:47.41Xinhuananother concern was thie item durability;my weapon had at the end 6/105.
19:47.41Repo10lfg-settings-saver: 03sylvanaar * r2 / (2 files in 1 directory): this project had no files in it
19:47.42XinhuanWe had backup weapons and shields since nobody could tell how long our gear would last.
19:47.46Fisker-where's the 3 hour 1920x1200 movie?
19:47.47Repo10gathermate: 03kagaro * r629 GatherMate.toc:
19:47.47RepoGatherMate: updating Toc, most of the major language updates for Frozen sea have been done.
19:48.27Xinhuanhttp://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=96007
19:48.31Xinhuantop download today lol
19:49.10gixany idea why my ready checks are kinda silent? it's annoying
19:49.37Slay|workwoohoo! got my work done in time! I'm awesome, and I'm outa here, laters!
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19:50.01Repo10gathermate: 03kagaro 04v1.0.10 * r630 : Tagging as v1.0.10
19:50.02RepoFrozen sea fixes and zone rempas for Lake wintergrasp in palce.
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19:50.28Xinhuanbah kagaro didn't read my post
19:50.43steevrempas?
19:51.11XinhuanFisker-: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45G8AW875EM
19:51.17DashkalCan someone fill me in on something regarding four horsemen?  according to wowwiki when you kill one he stops casting anything but his mark.  Does he still do the aoe spaz if you stay out of range of it?
19:51.29Fisker-oh well Xinhuan
19:51.34Fisker-in b4 enrage timer
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19:58.25PrimerDashkal: the aoe thing only happens when one of them doesn't have a tank, afaik
19:58.37PrimerDashkal: if they're dead, they're dead
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19:59.06Primerbut then my only experience in the fight is warlock tanking the 2 in the back with 1 other person
19:59.09DashkalPrimer: danke.  Just wanted to be sure.  The thing mentiones that a dead horsemen will still mark, which is irelevant if they don't aoe when they can't
19:59.41Primeryou know what pisses me off? healers that refuse to heal pets
19:59.44Primerin 5 mans
19:59.55Primerand people who tell you how to play your class
20:00.11steevand people who bitch about healers who don't heal pets
20:00.15Dashkalboot em.  A healer who doesn't understand the value of keeping DPS up isn't doing their job.
20:00.16Primer"HEAL MY FELGUARD!!" "Sac your succ, noob"
20:00.30PrimerI'm 0/41/30
20:00.47Primer"Don't you have health funnel? Heal it yourself!"
20:01.04Primer"I also have drain life you fucking moron. Does that mean I should heal myself as well?"
20:01.30Repo10lib-st: 03ddumont * r59 Core.lua: cell > col > row   DoCellUpdate
20:01.44Primerhaving the felguard tank the 2 horsemen in the back was great
20:01.59Primerall I had to do was put him on the boss and health funnel
20:02.14DashkalI'm thinking of going unholy for that fight if no other DKs catch up
20:02.18Dashkaljust for the aura
20:02.18Primerit was totally able to maintain aggro, and the cost of healing it was no drain on my life or mana
20:02.46PrimerI think I should get improved health funnel though
20:03.16Axodiousis there any addon/way to set the profile of ALL your wowace addons on a character?
20:03.45Axodiouslike, i want to copy all the settings from x character to y character
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20:04.50AxodiousGroktar! you have any idea if theres an addon/say to copy all the profile settings from one toon to another without going into each individual addon?
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20:07.51NeoTronPrimer: you are aware that the caster horsemen aggro is solely based on proximity right?
20:07.51Repo10skinner: 03Jncl 07master * b1.9183.14-2-gffd6829 / (12 files in 3 directories): [+2 commits]
20:07.52Repoffd6829: Skinner: Skinned HeadHunter
20:07.53Repo2f98bc7: Skinner:  Obsoleted AutoBarConfig & Trinity2 skins
20:08.30Repo10skinner: 03Jncl 04b1.9183.15 * 0b67df1 /: [new tag]  Tagging as b1.9183.15
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20:13.33evlWhere can I find a complete list of conditionals?
20:13.35evlfor macros
20:13.51pastamancercogwheel's macro guide
20:15.04steevAxodious: copy the character folder in the WTF directory
20:15.09doom0ri like blizz's rendition ingame of http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1766389
20:16.00PrimerNeoTron: I guess that explains it
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20:31.06steevis there a way to turn off announcing of achievements?
20:31.14doom0ryup
20:31.21doom0rchannel options
20:31.24doom0rjust like everything else
20:31.26steevmm
20:31.29steevi meant
20:31.38steevwhen i get one, i don't want it broadcast
20:32.06doom0rprob not
20:32.10Xinhuangquit ;p
20:32.22steevyeah... kinda hard to, im dating the gl
20:32.51doom0rnot at all, it's just 7 keystrokes
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20:35.39KriLL3cloth can only be in regular bags right?
20:36.07KriLL3there are no profession bags for it right?
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20:40.01steev*sigh*
20:40.06steevrolled a 2 on the bronze drake
20:42.15KriLL3you're a winner!
20:42.42NeoTronI've lost it twice so far
20:42.52KriLL3where does it drop anyway?
20:42.56NeoTronbut, like the bear, it's easy to get
20:42.58NeoTrontimed strat run
20:43.08KriLL3ah
20:44.46[SW]DodgeNeoTron: theoretically its easier to get, you can have your 5man grou get all drakes in 5 days. but for bear you need 30days for 10
20:44.49KriLL3I wantz a proto drake
20:45.44[SW]Dodgewe got the timed with 2min remaining including a whipe and non perfect group setup :D
20:46.22NeoTrontrue
20:47.24KriLL3I would have gotten there in time if we remembered to talk to arthas near the last boss
20:47.56KriLL3he just stood there at the section you kill the mobs in a long corridor like street, we got to where the last boss spawns and realized the slacker wasn't with us
20:48.16KriLL3had to do it twice again
20:48.22KriLL3fun times had by all
20:49.24[SW]Dodgemy guild leader got the timed but before killing time boss they kileld mal ganis :D
20:49.36[SW]Dodgethey didnt know for what the timer was xD
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20:50.36Kuja^we are just not there yet
20:52.01Lyn< has bronze drake on first run
20:52.04Kuja^we managed to get it to the boss with the portals and we had 5 minutes left, with our best run
20:52.35KriLL3I don't want another regular dragon, I want a proto one, too bad they're all quite hard to get it seems :\
20:52.45Kuja^true
20:52.57Xinhuanred - complete heroics (easy)
20:53.05[SW]Dodgeif you rly FAST RUSH the last street and pure DPS the boss you can get it wihtin the 5 min
20:53.09SunTsuOMG, guild mate of mine is skilling lock picking on dire maul door.. 373 lockpicking at the moment
20:53.17Xinhuantimelost - camp a rare spawn (boring)
20:53.22Xinhuanblue - 1% drop from skadi
20:53.38Xinhuanand a bunch of colours from other achievements, such as holiday and 25-man raid ones
20:53.47Kuja^well, the heroics are not *that* trivial to get
20:53.51nevcairielgreen - rare drop from sholazar oracle egg
20:54.03Xinhuanthink the holiday one is violet
20:54.04AckisWorkXinhuan: skadi? dailies right?
20:54.11Xinhuanskadi is the boss in UP
20:54.17Xinhuan2nd from last boss, the harpoon one
20:54.24AckisWorkahh my bad
20:54.34AckisWorkit's the polar bear from the dailies
20:54.41Xinhuanyeah i have the polarbear
20:54.46AckisWorkreally?
20:54.51Xinhuanyep
20:54.55Xinhuan2nd day of doing dailies got it
20:54.57Xinhuan1% woo
20:54.58AckisWorklucky or am I missing something?
20:55.03Xinhuanlucky
20:55.05Xinhuani'm currently on my 68th baron run right now though
20:55.09AckisWorklol
20:55.17nevcairielthe polar bear is damn ugly
20:55.21nevcairiellike all bears in wotlk
20:55.24Xinhuanyeah its ugly and small
20:55.30steevpolar bear?
20:55.31Xinhuanbest looking bear is... blizzcon one
20:55.35steevoh
20:55.38steevthat one
20:55.45steevfriend of mine got the time lost proto drake
20:57.13NeoTronXinhuan: completing heroic achievements is not "easy" for the average wow player
20:57.25Xinhuanmost of them are easy
20:57.35Xinhuani'll classify about 5 of them to be hard
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20:57.37Sarozpastamancer, found solution to vehicle thingie yet?
20:57.43Xinhuanand about 5 more as difficult
20:57.44NeoTronmany are easy, but some are hard even to experienced players (and likely out of reach for "normal' players)
20:57.51Xinhuanthe rest are easy
20:58.19KriLL3It would be easy if all in the party were in agreement to try for achievements, and sane
20:58.35Xinhuanmany of the achievements have gimmicks as well
20:58.37KriLL3always at least one loonie
20:58.38Xinhuanthat makes them trivial
20:59.11steeva lot of em just rely on having strong heals and tankage
20:59.37Xinhuanincorrect
20:59.47Xinhuanmost of them rely on strong dps
21:00.01Xinhuanonly a handful (less than 5) rely on good healing and tanks
21:00.34steevhalls of lightning, first boss i'd say is more tank/heals than dps - although all around need it
21:01.09steevthen again - im considered a "normal" wow player, i wasn't one of the ones who rushed to 80 within the first week of release and am now bitching about lack of content because i was retarded and didn't take my time to actually see the content
21:01.13Xinhuansee the problem with that is that every encounter doesn't need strong heals - if your dps is fast enough
21:02.41Xinhuanwatchhimdie is the only one that needs strong healing i think
21:03.31Xinhuanand possibly king dred
21:04.31selckinbad geared healer + tank = hard
21:04.34nevcairielking dred is so trivial to do
21:04.38selckinbad geared healer or tank = sorta hard
21:04.50nevcairielwe just had a rogue stunlock the damn raptors, was so easy =P
21:04.51selckingood of both = facerollign
21:04.56pastamancerSaroz: to do the swap between unit/vehicle for party members is going to require blizzard changing things
21:04.56Xinhuanking dred can be pretty hard if the debuffs stack up
21:05.00steevstunlock em?
21:05.06steevi thought you had to kill 6 of em
21:05.07Xinhuanand if the healer fails to heal to full
21:05.09steevoh, i see now
21:05.15Xinhuanto rid the ticking one
21:05.15steevso they weren't hitting
21:05.18nevcairielyou can pull them one by one
21:05.22steevyeah
21:05.31steevwe don't bother, we just pull em one at a time
21:05.48Xinhuanapart from watchhimdie, i really can't see any other achievement needing a strong healer
21:08.04NeoTronXinhuan: the 20m kill in oculus is pretty insane if you don't use the non-heroic dragon trick
21:08.13NeoTronwhich undoubtedly will be fixed
21:08.16Xinhuanwhat non heroic dungeon trick :o
21:08.19Matrix110http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Worst+Band+in+the+world&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
21:08.20Matrix110:D
21:08.21Xinhuani did that one with 5 minutes to spare
21:08.42NeoTronyou get the drakes from the non-heroic and clear the platforms on heroic before killing the first boss
21:09.03Xinhuanaren't the drakes zone-bound?
21:09.07Xinhuanzoning out will despawn them
21:09.10NeoTronI'm afraid I don't see how tht's possible. we had 8 minutes left after doing it this way
21:09.14NeoTronXinhuan: not if you're dead
21:09.20Xinhuani see
21:09.23Groktarstuffs a haggis down NeoTron's throat
21:09.24NeoTron8 minutes left byu the time we got to the last boss I mean
21:09.33Xinhuanwell i did it the legit way, had 5 min to spare on boss death ;p
21:09.35NeoTronand that was killing just the one last pack to unlock the boss dome
21:10.15Xinhuanyou don't have to kill many things
21:10.40NeoTronyou have to kill all platforms and 3 bosses
21:10.50Xinhuansee when you kill 1st boss --> fly up kill left platform (2 min) --> kill right platform (2 min) --> kill middle ring (5 min) --> kill boss (2 min)
21:10.55Xinhuanthat's 11 min if you're slow
21:11.08Xinhuanthen, fly up kill the 3 images (1 to 1.5 min each)
21:11.12Xinhuanthen kill boss (2 min)
21:11.22Xinhuanremaining, 4 min to kill eregos
21:11.26Xinhuanhe's killable in 3 min btw
21:11.40NeoTronit took us 11 minutes to get to eregos with just killing one ring
21:11.44NeoTronbut we don't have full 25 man gear
21:11.56Xinhuanneither do we
21:12.07NeoTronyou clearlyu have about 2x our dps though
21:12.12Xinhuanhalf my gear is still sunwell stuff lol
21:12.13NeoTron4000 or so per person?
21:12.25AckisWorklol Xinhuan doesn't that make you want to cry?
21:12.26Xinhuanabout 3k
21:12.46Xinhuan~_~
21:12.47purlSTOP DOING THAT!
21:13.00Xinhuan68th baron run no mount ;<
21:13.17Xinhuanp.s. ackis is in a better guild than me :)
21:13.18sacarasconly 68?
21:13.27AckisWorkXinhuan: I am?!?
21:13.35AckisWorkXinhuan: my guild is shit, I left team ice
21:13.42Xinhuanu did?
21:13.46AckisWorkaye
21:13.49Xinhuanworld 38th Kj kill !
21:14.06AckisWorkI got the world 11th staff off of KJ and stopped raiding lol :P
21:14.21AckisWorkthen there was a 3k person queue on illidan and we took a free transfer off
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21:14.29AckisWorkthe server I'm on is pure shit
21:14.36Groktar^
21:14.46Xinhuanshouldn't have xferred
21:14.50NeoTronnever a good idea to take "free transfers"
21:14.55NeoTronjust means "ticket to suck"
21:15.06AckisWorkNeoTron: 2-3 hour wait to log in, or transfer...
21:15.07pastamancercome xfer to my server ackis, I'm sure it's worse than the one you're on now
21:15.36Groktarya, when there are free transfers the best course of action is spamming trade chat with tales of how wonderful the other server is
21:15.38Silberbuechseanybod here who speak german?
21:15.39AckisWorklike last night... I just killed 10 man KZ for the first time...
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21:21.15Pneumatuseye of eternity needs to diaf with people appearing out of range
21:21.30Pneumatusi mind vision them, and they are floating in space somewhere :<
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21:23.50Xinhuani had malygos bug today
21:24.22Xinhuanclick orb to engage... he starts to land.. then goes thru the floor 2 levels below
21:24.27Xinhuanevades for 3 min, despawns
21:24.33Xinhuanand the orbs/exit portal doesn't respawn
21:24.46Pneumatuswe also had malygos teleport midfight the other day
21:24.59Pneumatushe blinked behind the MT, facing the whole raid
21:25.04Pneumatusand breathed on us :<
21:25.04Xinhuanhaha
21:25.19Groktari once had him start attacking me in p2
21:25.29Groktaruntargetable, but meleeing me
21:25.30Pneumatuswe had him join the fight in p2 once also
21:26.00Pneumatuswhen we were learning, we had people regularly become un-releaseable after p3 also
21:26.04Xinhuanwhat was weird was that
21:26.08Xinhuanwhen ppl died and released
21:26.11Pneumatusas they would land on top of the portal so never hit the ground
21:26.14Xinhuanthey were able to zone back in and rejoin the fight
21:26.17Xinhuani.e GY zerg
21:26.22Pneumatusyeh, we had that too
21:26.33Pneumatusits such a buggy, laggy fight
21:26.43Xinhuanbut gy zerg didn't work 2 attempts later
21:26.46NeoTronhope to get him down this week
21:26.51Xinhuanwe ended up reforming the raid with an unbugged instance to kill him
21:27.24Groktarif you're unreleaseable you just need to /script RePopMe()
21:27.30Groktaror is it just RePop?
21:27.34Groktarcan't remember
21:27.47Xinhuanit wasn't they can't release
21:28.02Xinhuanit was they can release, corpse run and zone back in and rejoin the fight mid-encounter
21:28.47Xinhuannow waiting for blizz to add a 5-min enrage timer on loatheb
21:28.54Xinhuanso it can't be 2manned anymore
21:29.13NivFreakhe had an enrage at 60 didn't he?
21:29.18Xinhuannope
21:29.25NivFreakI could have sworn he did
21:29.26Xinhuanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45G8AW875EM
21:29.28NivFreakoh
21:29.29AckisWorksoft enrage
21:29.30NivFreakit's that soft enrage
21:29.31NivFreakyea
21:29.32Xinhuanhttp://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=96007
21:29.37NivFreakspams the aoe every 15 seconds
21:29.42Xinhuantoday's top video download
21:29.50Xinhuan3 hours 12 min kill, 2-man loatheb
21:30.07NivFreaklol
21:30.14Xinhuanby a pair of germans
21:30.32steevare are are you german
21:30.33Pneumatusthe 2 gems i use for all my gear dont exist in a bloody rare quality version yet
21:30.38PneumatusWHY?!
21:30.39Xinhuanno i'm not
21:30.48steevits a line from 5th Element
21:30.51XinhuanPurified? ;p
21:30.58Pneumatusand Misty
21:31.20Pneumatusso instead i have to get a JC to cut through half a stack of gems to get me some perfects
21:31.31Xinhuan20% chance
21:31.42Pneumatusyeh, so 5 per gem roughly
21:31.51Pneumatusand generally need more than 1 at a time
21:32.07Pneumatusalthough, perfects are far cheaper to come by than rare quality :P
21:32.30[SW]Dodgeis there a way to stop a macro if target is focus target?
21:32.38Xinhuanno
21:33.16[SW]Dodgenothing like /stopmacro [target=focus] ?
21:33.23Xinhuanno
21:33.45[SW]Dodgedamn... our dk girly is to stupid for target managing on malygos....
21:34.03Xinhuanwhat about it
21:34.06[SW]Dodgeshe always death grips malygos -.-
21:34.11[SW]Dodgeand not power sparks
21:34.18Xinhuanlol
21:34.24Xinhuanfail
21:34.32[SW]Dodgeresult: malygos turns to raid, arcane breat => WIPE
21:34.43Xinhuanmake sure she also chains of ice after death gripping
21:35.12Xinhuanwe had a better one
21:35.24Xinhuanwe brought 3 tanks
21:35.44Xinhuantank 2 was prot pally with RF on, just doing stuff and pulled aggro
21:36.03evlAnyone done 3 drake sarth here? :P
21:36.09evl25-man
21:36.22Groktarspent like 3 hours on it one night
21:36.35evlwe've spent two days :P
21:36.37[SW]Dodgeevl: we traid 10 +1 and faild totally xd
21:36.38Groktarkilled the first drake a few times, but lots of fail in the raid
21:36.43[SW]Dodgetried*
21:37.12evlyou get +100% fire and shadow damage and -25% hp to the whole raid and every drake dead increases sarth damage by 25% meaning tanks get one shotted with 30k hp :D
21:37.17evljust wondered if someone had any tips
21:37.31NivFreaktip: Kill a drake
21:37.31[SW]DodgeAGAIN....
21:37.34NivFreak;)
21:37.41[SW]Dodgedamn...
21:37.56evlNivFreak: killing one just increases the damage on the tank
21:37.57Pneumatus2 drakes is a complete cakewalk compared to 3 drakes as we found out earlier this evening :<
21:38.08NivFreakyea
21:38.11Groktarhehe
21:38.33evl2 drakes is easy shit compared to 3
21:38.44Pneumatuswe were a tank short tonight so instead of more practice on 3 drakes we just did 2, and it was massively easier
21:38.52NivFreakeven with 2 drakes, you need to kill 1 before the other lands, right?
21:38.57Groktarno
21:39.02Repo10baldrick: 03LordFarlander * r112 / (3 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
21:39.03RepoBaldrick:
21:39.05Repo- Ability for quests to check for being near a coordinate or do other things on a timer
21:39.06Repo- Range checking, if an item is out of range it will not be suggested
21:39.09RepoBaldrick_DailyQuests:
21:39.16[SW]DodgeXinhuan: could ./cast [target=Power Spark] Death Grip work?
21:39.19Pneumatuswe did the first and third drake, so tenebron was well dead before the next one landed
21:39.22Groktaryou don't necessarily need to kill the first before the second lands even with 3 drakes
21:39.31Xinhuanonly if the power spark is in your raid
21:39.31NivFreak[SW]Dodge: two lines, /targetexact power spark
21:39.39Xinhuani.e no
21:39.41NivFreak<PROTECTED>
21:39.43NeoTronNivFreak: only if you untarget first
21:39.49Xinhuanniv, that would just grip malygos ;p
21:39.51Pneumatusyeh, /cleartarget
21:39.54Groktaralthough it was definitely exciting with two drakes breathing on me when the 100% shadow debuff was up
21:39.55NivFreakok sure
21:39.56NivFreakclear target
21:39.57Pneumatusthen /targetexact
21:40.01NivFreakI forgot this is an idiot
21:40.03NivFreak:P
21:41.22Groktarbreathes on NivFreak
21:41.56NivFreakI beat a mage on KT last night
21:41.56NivFreaklol
21:41.59NivFreak<-- MT
21:42.02[SW]Dodgeheh thanks for the /targetexact hint, i suggested her to try it now :D
21:42.04Groktarwow
21:42.09NivFreakwe didn't have replenishment
21:42.11NivFreakand went OOM twice
21:42.12NivFreakfail
21:42.30Groktarwas this 10 man?
21:42.35NivFreakyea
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21:43.01Xinhuanwas said mage using mage armor or molten armor
21:43.11NivFreakI can guess ;)
21:43.24NivFreakI didn't notice until after he was dead
21:45.16[SW]Dodgeagain 2 sparks hit malygos
21:45.19[SW]Dodgeuhm...3 -.-
21:45.24[SW]Dodgegame over
21:45.25Groktarlol
21:45.25[SW]Dodge._.
21:45.30Pneumatusnah
21:45.34Pneumatusguarian spirit
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21:45.46Pneumatusguardian spirit > malygos breath
21:45.47Groktarspark buff lasts what, 10 seconds?
21:45.47NivFreakis one DK enough to keep sparks off him? Doesn't it take 2?
21:45.52[SW]Dodgewell, this time he got his sparks and not a DK "taunt" ._.
21:45.58Xinhuan1 in 10man, 2 in 25
21:46.00Pneumatusspark buff lasts 10 sec, guardian spirit lasts 10 sec
21:46.02[SW]DodgeNivFreak: we have 2
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21:46.27Xinhuanand u generally use DKs to pull the spark closer to the boss, not away ;p
21:46.34Groktartank should have cooldowns for another couple of spark buffs, too
21:46.53Xinhuanjust so that u can kill the spark quicker and in melee range of boss
21:46.58Pneumatusyeh, shieldwall a spark buff also
21:47.11Pneumatusthe problem is more about your dps/healers having less than ~20k hp
21:47.16Pneumatusand getting 1shot by the aoe nastyness
21:47.24[SW]Dodgebtw, someone has tank feral in raid ? do they also get lot more dmg than warri pala for you?
21:47.49Pneumatus[SW]Dodge: we have a bear tank, and he takes the same kind of damage as our warriors
21:47.54KriLL3mitigation isn't as easy for ferals, but we can stack stamina np
21:48.07Pneumatuspossibly a little bit more spikey, but the amount of HP he has in comparison makes up for it
21:48.14KriLL3thus we tend to get a lot more HP, but hit a bit more
21:48.16[SW]DodgePneumatus: can you tell me server and charname? wnat to compare equip?
21:48.24PneumatusAriath on EU-Turalyon
21:48.30[SW]Dodgei get 13-14k hits on patchwerk hero and our warri/pala only 8-9
21:48.35[SW]DodgePneumatus: thanks =)
21:48.49KriLL3[SW]Dodge: what's your gear like? armor & dodge?
21:48.59KriLL328k armor 34% dodge here, selfbuffed
21:49.20evldown :D
21:49.36[SW]Dodge26k armor 41,24% dodge and 42,3k life raidbuffed atm
21:49.46[SW]Dodge28k armor*
21:50.10[SW]DodgeKriLL3: netrox on sen'jin eu if you want to look
21:50.13Mikkso.. i have a semi-hax idea
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21:50.32Mikkabusing the fact that everyone can get their relative position to map pings in instances
21:50.48Mikkwouldnt it be kinda useful to have a tactical overview of positioning of key people in raids?
21:50.52Mikklike... where's the healers
21:50.58Pneumatusraid icons
21:51.00XinhuanMikk: already implemented/tried 2 years ago
21:51.04Mikkor... where the hell is my current target since i cant reach him etc
21:51.20Mikktried and failed?
21:51.27Xinhuannot sure on results
21:51.34Xinhuanbut since nothing came out of it
21:51.44Xinhuanthe proof of concept library failed
21:51.50Mikkwell, the problem would indeed be getting everyone in the raid to run it
21:51.55Xinhuanit should still be around somewhere
21:52.04Xinhuanplus it has to hack and hook a lot of minimap ping shit
21:52.15Xinhuanor u won't know the real pings from the fake ones
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21:52.27[SW]Dodgehmm wtfail... i have mor base armor, stam and agi than Ariath ._.
21:52.49Mikkreal? fake?
21:52.55Pneumatusyou're having problems on patchwerk in particular?
21:52.58Xinhuanlike if i were to ping on the minimap
21:53.11Xinhuanit would generate a ping, just like how an addon can generate a ping
21:53.23Xinhuanthe receiving end doesn't know if its user or library generated
21:53.30Mikkwell, it doesnt really matter what initiates the ping does it?
21:53.34Mikki mean.. any ping is good
21:53.46Xinhuanno heh
21:54.04Xinhuanthe only useful ping is a ping on your own location
21:54.09Xinhuanso other ppl know where u are
21:54.12[SW]DodgePneumatus: not jsut patchwerk, i get lot mor damage overall compared with warri/pala
21:54.17Mikkoho, i had a different idea
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21:54.22Repoupdate to include libdbicon (thanks vharr - just what i needed)
21:54.37Mikkwhere you'd just need 1 ping every time you run into the instance, sort of
21:54.45Mikkand communicate positions (when you move) over addon comms
21:55.06trhuh... what could be wrong if i try to check out a newly created project (no files yet) and get a "Authorization failed" (even if tried without username)
21:55.15Xinhuanhow would it do that
21:55.37Pneumatuscalculating you're relative position would requre all kinds of crazy math i'd have thought
21:55.52Pneumatus*your
21:55.58Mikkyou can always get your location relative to the last ping afaik?
21:56.15NivFreak[SW]Dodge: last I checked, druid avoidance was far lower than war/druid, right?
21:56.19Xinhuanyes, but without additional info about what that ping meant, it isn't useful data
21:56.19Mikk(or put another way: the location of the last ping relative to you)
21:56.21Groktarcan you get the location of the ping?
21:56.24Mikkyou can
21:56.31Groktaroh, duh
21:56.37Xinhuanit could be a ping some raid member randomly clicked on the map
21:56.38[SW]DodgeNivFreak: yea it is afaik
21:56.41Xinhuanand it wouldn't be useful
21:56.48Groktarif you know your location and the relative location of the ping of course you can get the exact location of the ping
21:56.51Pneumatus[SW]Dodge: in general though, while druids tend to take a little more damage, the massive HP buffer they have over a warrior/paladin makes up for it in my experience
21:56.58Pneumatusthey are no harder to heal, really
21:57.13NivFreakit depends on how tight mana is
21:57.17Xinhuanand even so, its only useful to determine 2-dimensional relative locations
21:57.20Xinhuannot 3-d
21:57.35Xinhuanmost fights involve some sort of 3d-terrain
21:58.06Xinhuanor at least, not on purely flat ground
21:58.25Groktarpretty close to flat tho
21:59.01Xinhuanbut see, this sort of positioning addon is least useful on flat ground ;p
21:59.20Mikki dunno, as a healer, i'd still love it on flat ground
21:59.31[SW]DodgePneumatus: i have 42k raidbuffed our warri 37k thats not a that big diff
21:59.35Xinhuanyou prob won't have time to look at it imo
21:59.46NivFreakyea, I sit at 36K or so raid buffed
21:59.51[SW]Dodgeeven if you see that i get about 3-5k more dmg (for example of patchwerk hero)
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21:59.54ZnuffHi.
22:00.24NivFreakif I could get my freaking trinket to drop
22:00.28NivFreakI'd be at 37K
22:00.31Groktarwhich trinket?
22:00.36NivFreakthe heroic AN one
22:00.40NivFreak111 stam
22:00.40Groktaroic
22:00.44Groktari gots one!
22:00.47NivFreakmy OT got it
22:00.48NivFreakgrr
22:00.59NivFreakthe one night I didn't use my reset of course
22:01.03[SW]DodgeNivFreak: got the 111stam trinket on first run w/o knowing of that trinekt )D
22:01.04[SW]Dodge:D
22:01.06Groktari only have 27k unbuffed :(
22:01.25Groktar[SW]Dodge: same here
22:01.33[SW]Dodge24,7k unbuffed in caster form
22:01.58Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1198 / (2 files in 2 directories):
22:01.59RepoFix bug with finding out if a mob drop is a raid or instance drop
22:02.04Groktarit's probably about time to start getting rare stam gems
22:02.26ZnuffI'm trying to fix FuBar_QuestsFu to work with WoW 3.0.3, but I don't understand the changes in AceLocale-3.0 from 2.0, it seems that 3.0 doesn't like being called like AceLibrary("AceLocale-3.0"):new("QuestsFu). Any tips on how does 3.0 like to play?
22:02.30Groktarsince gear is starting to last more than a couple days before being replaced
22:02.40NivFreak:)
22:02.44[SW]Dodgebut well, its to much dmg in to let the raid leader allow me to tank a boss :( it sucks, i thought blizz wants tanks to be equal :(
22:03.06NivFreakI'm unimpressed with the pocket watch v2 from badges
22:03.14ckknightZnuff: did you read the docs?
22:03.20NivFreakI kind of want my badges back, but of course I have nothing else to use them for
22:03.34Groktarhave they let you try tanking a boss [SW]Dodge?
22:03.35Znuffckknight, will do now
22:03.50NivFreak[SW]Dodge: most fights, it won't matter
22:04.02XinhuanMikk, what you can do is look at the proof of concept of that old library
22:04.03[SW]Dodgeyes, and healer went to fast oom :(
22:04.10Znuffckknight, if you'd like to point me in the right direction...
22:04.12NivFreakon patchwerk?
22:04.13CIA-50picofps: 03Tekkub 07master * r0846f1c 10/ picoFPS.lua : LDB data source - http://is.gd/aKsB
22:04.13Xinhuanit was called GPSLib i think, on the old wowace svn
22:04.22MikkXinhuan: yeah but if it's based on spamming pings it's an entirely different idea
22:04.26Xinhuanhttp://files.wowace.com/GPSLib/
22:04.35Xinhuandunno what it was based on
22:04.59[SW]DodgeNivFreak: yes and sapph and maly
22:05.02NivFreakiirc gpslib only requires everyone to ping once after you zone
22:05.09NivFreak[SW]Dodge: yea, sapph hits fucking hard
22:05.28CIA-50picodps: 03Tekkub 07master * rc7877f2 10/ picoDPS.lua : LDB type - http://is.gd/aKtH
22:06.04NeoTron[SW]Dodge: what class again? druid?
22:06.09CIA-50picoexp: 03Tekkub 07master * r38b9bde 10/ picoEXP.lua : LDB type - http://is.gd/aKuf
22:06.10[SW]DodgeNeoTron: yes
22:06.19[SW]Dodgehttp://www.armory-light.com/eu/Sen%27jin/Netrox
22:06.30ckknightZnuff: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ace3/pages/getting-started/#w_using-ace-locale-3-0
22:06.53CIA-50picofriends: 03Tekkub 07master * r9b243e1 10/ picoFriends.lua : LDB type - http://is.gd/aKuz
22:06.58Repo10smartmount: 03akazik * r50 / (2 files in 1 directory): - fixed druid form (ticket #4)
22:07.00Repo- fixed rock-config-error (ticket #5)
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22:07.12trhckknight: how long should it take after setting up a svn repository for it to be working?
22:07.13CIA-50picogroup: 03Tekkub 07master * r5e16cd6 10/ picoGroup.lua : LDB type - http://is.gd/aKuN
22:07.14Mikkhm, it seems gpslib was a lot more about positioning people on a map
22:07.17Mikkwhich was nontrivial
22:07.19NivFreakdon't you still want an armor trinket until after the changes?
22:07.29ckknighttrh: up to a minute, why, having issues?
22:07.29NivFreakand neck/rings
22:07.30Mikki really only care about where people are relative to me :)
22:07.31evlNivFreak; down btw :D
22:07.38NivFreakevl: 3 drakes?
22:07.42Znuffckknight, yeah, found it... a simple question, as I've never done this before. I'll have to completely change every part of the addon to get it to work with the new AceLocale-3.0? As I'm seeing nothing similar in the old 2.2 files
22:07.46CIA-50picoguild: 03Tekkub 07master * rdeee1e3 10/ picoGuild.lua : LDB type - http://is.gd/aKuX
22:07.47evlyeah 3 drakes sarth 25 man
22:07.49NivFreakevl: grats!
22:07.53evlinsanely hard
22:07.56evlbugged rogues ftw
22:07.57NivFreakso what'd you do to deal with MT dmg?
22:08.08[SW]Dodgegratz EvilJohn
22:08.12[SW]Dodgeups xD
22:08.15[SW]Dodgeevl* ^^
22:08.28[SW]Dodgedamn tab completition ._.
22:08.57evlMT damage?
22:09.03evlshields from pala and massive spam healing
22:09.12evljust 2 paladins with beacon I guess
22:09.26[SW]DodgeNivFreak: i tanke every thing i can get
22:10.24[SW]Dodgebut yesterday i wasnt in nax25 while defedners code dropped (got dissenchanted) and today i was not there for kel (they didnt invited me cous i was late, but mentioned taht) and missed t7 head and new staff :(
22:10.32NivFreakevl: what do you have for a MT?
22:10.39evlwarrior
22:10.46NivFreakcan I see his armory?
22:10.47evlmight be doable with DK
22:10.51MikkDoes anyone know more about http://www.wowace.com/projects/xrs/files/568-r193-nolib/ ?   "- remove AddonLoader support. Its broken in conjunction with XRS in WoW 3.0.3.9183. It causes several other mods to stop functioning (with errors) on the XRS load attempt; XRS also never gets loaded."
22:11.01NivFreakI was wondering if a druid would be nice with the extra stam
22:11.13NivFreakbut you might OOM the healers
22:11.19Xinhuanmikk: load ordering issues
22:11.42evlNivFreak: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Loríanne
22:11.42Xinhuanaddonloader also broke at least 3 of my addons (routes, gathermate, gatherhud) and i had to write specific code to workaround it
22:11.59trhZnuff: you can write a wrapper function to use the old AceLocale-2.2 RegisterTranslations with AceLocale-3.0 - but really chaning it is better (consumes less memory)
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22:12.28Xinhuanpart of the problem comes from the reqdep/optdep bug in patch 3.0.2 and not fully fixed in 3.0.3
22:12.56Xinhuanfor eg, routes has optdep on gathermate, and gatherhud has optdep on routes but reqdep on gathermate
22:12.59Znufftrh, I'm guessing there's one already made? Not really a programmer, barely trying to figure out LUA and Ace at the same time
22:13.01Xinhuanwithout addonloader, its fine
22:13.12Xinhuanwith addonloader.... routes would load before gathermate
22:13.12krkaZnuff: The name of the language is Lua, not LUA. :-D
22:13.22Xinhuanwith the result of causing errors
22:13.23Znuffkrka, will keep in mind ^^
22:13.32trhZnuff: i made one for my addon, but feel free to use it
22:13.34NivFreakJC is pretty hot atm
22:13.36NivFreakfor tanks
22:13.49NivFreakI suspect it'll be less so when epic gems show up
22:13.52Znufftrh, point me in the right direction, pretty please
22:14.26MikkXinhuan: funny thing is though, this is a problem with XRS, which is ace2. and ace2 has built-in EnableAddOn()+ LoadAddOn() stuff
22:14.44Xinhuanto put it succinctly, i ended up putting a bunchof ADDON_LOADED code since addon loading order isn't gauranteed anymore
22:14.52Xinhuanwell maybe some addon is dependant on xrs
22:15.02Xinhuanand xrs becoming LoD via addonloader breaks it
22:15.08Xinhuanbecause if its optdep on xrs
22:15.14Xinhuanxrs would NOT load before
22:15.30Xinhuanits other addons that optdep xrs that need to LoadAddOn(Xrs)
22:15.35trhZnuff: http://ace.pastey.net/103953
22:15.36Xinhuandue to LoD
22:15.43NivFreakevl: your tank has slightly better gear than I do, not by much though
22:15.48MikkWell... the error is in XRS though
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22:15.48NivFreakso that's interesting
22:15.56NivFreakthe trinkets really make her blow by me in health though
22:15.57Xinhuanyeah really depends on code
22:16.03MikkChecking its deps now but it should be trivial
22:16.28Repo10smartmount: 03akazik 04b51 * r51 : Tagging as b51
22:16.29Xinhuanmy error was in routes since routes assumed gathermate would be loaded before it, now it no longer assumes that
22:16.47Xinhuanalso it can error on reloadui
22:16.56Xinhuanbecause IsAddOnLoaded() return values are not resetted on /rl
22:17.05Xinhuanit will still return "1"
22:17.08Xinhuaneven if its not loaded yet
22:17.18Znufftrh, seeing as I have more than one module, where should I add the function, btw? I'm guessing it's not OK to just change AceLocale-3.0 and add that there :-)
22:17.23Xinhuanthis causing errors that you will only see on /rl and not on a fresh login
22:17.40Xinhuanits very problematic, trust me
22:18.05trhZnuff: i have it in each module because the locale names are different - but you could add another argument and make the function global
22:18.12Xinhuani had to use hacks such as ## LoadWith:
22:18.15trhZnuff: and change the RegisterTranslations call accordingly
22:18.18Xinhuanand LoadAddOn() and many other stuff
22:18.20NivFreakgod it's tempting to dump enchanting and pick up JCing
22:18.32NivFreakhow expensive is it to plvl JCing now days?
22:18.34Xinhuanjust to work around the delayed loading addonloader caused due to optdep/reqdep bug
22:18.34Znuffso, instead of local function, global function ?
22:18.39Znuff@trh
22:18.40Xinhuanoptdep is fixed, repdep isn't
22:19.07trhZnuff: that'd make it possible for every module to call it
22:19.23Znufftrh, does it make it possible to be called outside this addon?
22:19.37trhZnuff: that's what global means ;)
22:19.44Znuffow
22:19.58Znuffisn't there a way to make it "global" only to this addon? :P
22:20.07ZnuffI wouldn't want to break anything else
22:20.52trhZnuff: if it is written with ace3 you probably got something like MyAddonName as a global table, just create it in there with function MyAddonName:RegisterTranslations and you'll be fine
22:20.55Silberbuechseanyone can help me please?
22:21.25Znufftrh, I see, well, worth trying, thanks for the help
22:28.12Znuffwow, gz me, I broke all ace addons ^^
22:28.56steevso... whats the new cloak of darkness?
22:32.41ckknightZnuff: gz
22:33.02Znuffckknight, hard to acomplish, isn't it?
22:33.13ckknightnot really, I could do it pretty easily
22:33.15ckknightLibStub = nil
22:33.18ckknightdone.
22:33.24Znuffgood to know
22:33.54Znufftrh, think I did something wrong... I get assertion failed
22:34.22Znuffow, I broke ButtonFacade
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22:37.40Znuffhas another bright/stupid idea
22:38.14Arrowmasteri fucking hate the 'a simple request' achievement, i keep getting to 4/5 and it resets
22:38.37Arrowmasterand no im not doing battlegrounds
22:39.09Znuffckknight/trh: what if I remove localisation completely? and make - name = L["$whatever"] return exactly $whatever, without doing a translation?
22:39.12ZnuffHow would I do that?
22:39.36GrumArrowmaster: start doing them within 24hrs of oneother
22:40.10Grumyes you can Znuff
22:40.26ArrowmasterGrum: is that the bug?
22:40.29Grumlocal L = {}; setmetatable( L, {__index=function(t,k) return k end })
22:40.34doom0rNivFreak: about vodka saying stuff, they clam up, since they'll do anything including exploiting heavily to get stuff done
22:40.43ZnuffArrowmaster, it's not a bug, simply do them every day -_-
22:40.54Grumand by default L[] acts like that Znuff
22:41.05GrumArrowmaster: yes that is the bug
22:41.23Grumyou did one at 19:35 and the last one at 19:35 .. not within 24hours == fail
22:41.46Grumerm last one at 19:36 obviously ;)
22:42.05ZnuffLet's see
22:42.31GrumZnuff: AceLocale-3.0 already does this behavior by default if you run enUS/enGB
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22:43.42ZnuffGrum, first day here
22:43.50Znuffpretty much clueless
22:44.02Grumwelcome to the deep end
22:44.22Znuffbrb
22:44.53SilberbuechseOne Question please. What can i do, to get back access to "BigBrother" Repo?
22:46.50Kaeltensorry for the brief interupption there while we pushed out an update
22:47.29ZhinjioKaelten: heya
22:47.35trhKaelten: i get authorization failed on svn://vana@svn.wowace.com/wow/libbabble-race-30/mainline/trunk - it says somehwere that should bug admin with it ;)
22:47.40Groktarthrows the haggis at Kaelten
22:47.55ckknighttrh: tell me what it says
22:48.07trhckknight: "Authorization fails"
22:48.12ckknight...
22:48.13ckknight:-P
22:48.16trher.. "failed"
22:48.18ckknightdid you set your svn password?
22:48.21Silberbuechsewhat the hell is a "brief interruption"?
22:48.32trhckknight: yes
22:48.40Zhinjioo.O
22:48.42trhckknight: at least it works fine on my other rep. :)
22:48.45ckknightk, trh, lemme check something
22:52.04GnarfozSilberbuechse: brief = short ;>
22:54.02ckknighttrh: found the bug
22:55.00trhckknight: ah.. works now.. thanks :)
22:55.06ckknight:-)
22:56.30Repo10libbabble-race-30: 03Vana * r2 / (7 files in 2 directories): o initial commit of libbabble for use with LibStub
22:57.06ZnuffGrum, love you!
22:57.20Xinhuani wasn't aware libbabble used libstub :o
22:57.24Xinhuandoesn't it use its own stub?
22:57.35Xinhuanor is my memory failing
22:58.17trhXinhuan: it used babble-2.2 which was acelibrary based iirc
22:58.59trhXinhuan: ok.. don't know what babble-3 uses ;)
22:59.02trhXinhuan: i assumed libstub
22:59.08pastamancerbabble3 is libstub-based
23:02.01thulgood evenining good people! Th3Sourc3 :-)
23:02.37Repo10vanas-ko-s: 03Vana * r289 / (3 files in 2 directories): VanasKoS: use external babble-race
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23:03.47ArrowmasterSilberbuechse: you arent the author of bigbrother are you?
23:04.18NivFreakpastamancer: does anyone actually maintain GridStatusRaidDebuffs anymore?
23:04.24Xinhuanif he is, a closed repo wouldn't lock his access out, unless its a ck fault ;p
23:04.40pastamancerNivFreak: no idea
23:04.40Arrowmasterperty sure he isnt but just checking
23:04.52Arrowmasterso i dont end up eating my hat
23:07.07Fincan anyone recommend an alternative to ClosetGnome? unfortunately it's not working properly for me
23:07.27NivFreakoutfitter
23:07.28NivFreak;)
23:08.03KaeltenArrowmaster: I just talked to him and he says he wants to maintain it, so I'm giving him a shot.
23:08.22Arrowmasterwell the commits lastnight were fairly destructive
23:08.24Kaeltenif he doesn't or whatever we'll take him off as a maintainer.
23:08.33Kaeltenya he apologized
23:08.42Kaeltenwe all had to learn svn once
23:09.04FinNivFreak: thanks (did the winky smiley mean something, though?)
23:09.05Arrowmasteri blame tsvn
23:09.56KaeltenIf Silberbuechse is inactive or can't get to understand svn, we'll have to remove him as a maintainer.
23:10.09Arrowmasternever ran into problems of doing something i didnt intend with the commandline client
23:10.23KaeltenArrowmaster: ya, I prefer command line for stuff now
23:10.28Kaeltenwhen I started, I couldn't dream of it
23:10.28trhArrowmaster: wait until you try to merge different branches :(
23:10.30NivFreakFin: I love outfitter, others are not as found
23:10.39Arrowmastertrh: i have
23:10.41SilberbuechseHow u guys test inagme player functions. For Example Polymorph, if u dont have a mage?
23:10.52KaeltenSilberbuechse: make a mage ;)
23:10.57SilberbuechseGnahh
23:10.59trhArrowmaster: it's a pita, while it's pretty nice in tsvn
23:11.26Arrowmasterlook at the log for big-brother, theres some fairly fucked up merges in there
23:11.30Xinhuanborrow a mage
23:11.37FinNivFreak: OK - ta for the tip
23:11.47NivFreaks/found/fond/
23:11.48SilberbuechseArrowmaster: My Fault
23:11.49trhSilberbuechse: fakin'em by calling the functions with the parameters they should get
23:11.50Kaeltenmerges always suck
23:11.50Arrowmasterso it cant be foolproof in tsvn either
23:11.55NivFreakzzzz
23:11.59NivFreak3 hours of sleep FTL
23:12.09Kaeltenmakes me love hg so ;)
23:12.25Repo10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 * r41 / (4 files in 1 directory):
23:12.25Repo* Added keybinds for autotrack on/off and only-in-combat on/off.
23:12.26Repo* Changed Draxon's name in the credits to his character name (Fyrgloth) on his
23:12.28Reporequest.
23:12.36ZhinjioTorhal: ping
23:12.37trhArrowmaster: sure not.. but the nice graphical diff function etc. makes it pretty nice :)
23:12.56*** part/#wowace lmeyer (n=lars@dslb-082-083-249-218.pools.arcor-ip.net)
23:13.10AckisWorkZhinjio: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/287-all-none-check-boxes-for-reputations/ (assigned to you if that's ok)
23:13.25Repo10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 042.2beta3 * r42 : Tagging as 2.2beta3, now with keybinds.
23:14.15ZhinjioAckisWork: the problem with adding it there is that we ran out of room
23:14.31trhi just wish there was something like intellij idea for lua (awesome refactoring)
23:14.33Zhinjioyeah, its fine, but it may be a bit before I can address it.
23:14.40AckisWorkk
23:14.43ArrowmasterSilberbuechse: yeah i locked it because of those merges, i couldnt tell what you were trying to do but i knew you werent doing what you intended either
23:14.43AckisWorkand yah I understand
23:15.33ArrowmasterSilberbuechse: that and because you were making release tags for a project you werent on the author list for
23:19.05SilberbuechseArrowmaster: No problem. Its the first time i used SVN with Tortoise. I like BigBrother realy and its seems to be dead. Its the most used AddOn as a RaidLeader :D
23:20.03Arrowmastertrh: you vana?
23:20.07trhArrowmaster: yep
23:20.08Xinhuanreally?
23:20.10Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r94 / (2 files in 1 directory): - fix attendees db issue
23:20.11Repo- DB version update roll-up into two sections
23:20.27Xinhuandon't think anyone on my server uses bigbrother lol
23:20.35ZhinjioAckisWork: is "no" an acceptable answeer to that ticket?
23:20.44Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.1.23 * r95 : Tagging as 2.1.23
23:20.51Arrowmastertrh: update your .pkgmeta, i moved libbabble-race-30 to libbabble-race-3-0
23:21.05AckisWorkZhinjio: I kinda liked the idea of it, but I suppose no would be if it's going to be too difficult
23:21.28ZhinjioI'll look
23:21.44Zhinjiowe also need to remove the LK reps that have no crafted recipes associated with them at some point
23:21.58Pneumatusi love BigBrother too :<
23:21.59SilberbuechseXinhuan: its time to try it :D
23:22.00trhArrowmaster: getting authorization failed again on 3-0
23:22.03selckinNivFreak: Pneumatus NeoTron well we killed it with a dk tanking till 3 adds down, makes it a bit easier tbh
23:22.04Pneumatusespecially for MD/Tricks of the trade
23:22.07Arrowmaster~lart ckknight
23:22.07purlsmacks ckknight up side the head with a clue-by-4
23:22.17Pneumatusselckin: tanking sartharion himself?
23:22.18Arrowmasterckknight: renaming is broken
23:22.24selckinPneumatus: yes
23:22.25ckknightdon't fucking lart me
23:22.27Repo10little-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r486 / (3 files in 2 directories): ruRU update
23:22.30Arrowmaster~lart ckknight
23:22.30purl--purges ckknight
23:22.34Pneumatusselckin: name/realm so i can take a look at armory? :>
23:22.42selckinPneumatus: after the 3 adds we had our mt take over again, since he start doing heavy melee then
23:22.53Arrowmaster~whalepoke ckknight
23:22.58ckknightsee, if you do shit like that, you make me not want to fix your bug
23:22.59Pneumatus(of the dk that was tanking)
23:23.01selckinPneumatus: for dk tank?
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23:23.19ckknightArrowmaster: what do you mean renaming is broken?
23:23.22Arrowmasterwhy is there no ~whalepoke
23:23.30selckinhe respecced twice during the raid, armory has dps :\
23:23.31ckknightdunno
23:23.35trhArrowmaster: ah.. fixed now =)
23:23.44Xinhuanwhales can poke?
23:23.50Pneumatusah
23:23.51Arrowmasterckknight: i renamed libbabble-race-30 to libbabble-race-3-0 and was getting authorization failed again on the svn repo
23:24.03selckinPneumatus: 30k hp, some blues, 5% dodge 5% parry or so :\
23:24.08Arrowmasterckknight: but now it works
23:24.09ckknightah, it can take up to a minute for the svn-Master.access file to regen
23:24.09Pneumatusselckin: guessing his gear is generally 200/213?
23:24.23selckinPneumatus: probably
23:24.27selckinPrimer: not 213
23:24.30ckknightunlike git and hg, it doesn't dynamically fetch from the DB, it has to regenerate it each time
23:24.53selckinPneumatus: you just need the cooldowns to deal with the breath, sarth hits like a whimp till the 3 dragons are down
23:24.58Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r96 / (2 files in 1 directory): - fixed export issue
23:25.26Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.1.24 * r97 : Tagging as 2.1.24
23:25.42Pneumatusselckin: saving antimagic/ibf for those breaths i guess
23:25.59Pneumatusgrats anyway :)
23:26.19selckinthey have like 4 million shield walls on 1 min cooldown or so
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23:30.21ChaosluxHey guys.. i decided to give a try to making addon, so far its going well but the only problem i realized is that i gotta Reload the UI tons of time, and it erases the chat
23:30.25ChaosluxIs there anything to remedy that?
23:31.02Zhinjiostop chatting?
23:31.14vhaarrye
23:31.37trhChaoslux: guess you got a project for your first addon :P
23:32.53ChaosluxKind of
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23:33.46trhChaoslux: shouldn't be too hard to record the last x messages and whispers and fake them on the screen after login =)
23:34.02ChaosluxYeah, that's what im looking for
23:34.15trhChaoslux: that's your first addon-project :)
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23:35.39ckknightthat's actually not a bad project.
23:35.46ckknightgo for it, Chaoslux, I believe in you.
23:36.21AckisWorkyou can do it
23:36.49Xinhuan30 lines of code should be sufficient ;p
23:36.53trhckknight: yea.. and not it's not too complex as a first project :)
23:36.59ckknighttrue
23:37.09ckknightwell, I'd have the number be variable
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23:37.14ckknightbut it can start off as a constant
23:37.27ckknightlocal NUMBER_OF_LINES_TO_STORE = 30 at the top
23:37.28ckknight:-P
23:37.37Arrowmasterits been done before, but i dont think its been updated in a few years
23:37.40Xinhuanby 30, i mean 30 lines of addon code should be sufficient ;p
23:37.44ckknightah.
23:37.44ckknightyea.
23:37.46Xinhuannot storing 30 lines ;p
23:38.02gixi could do it in 1 line :<
23:38.20ckknightgix: poorly done or easy to read?
23:38.24Arrowmasteri could write carbonite in 1 line of code
23:38.33Arrowmasteroh wait it already is 1 line of code
23:38.43gixckknight: neither
23:38.52ckknighthow, then?
23:39.15gixnot poorly done, but also not easy to read of course
23:39.55trhcarbonites uses a funny obfuscator - sometimes when it produces interface errors there are alot of "rofl's" and "lols" in the variable names
23:40.05ckknighterr, I meant hard to read
23:40.17Xinhuandouble meaning
23:40.21Xinhuan"funny obfuscator" hahaha
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23:41.47trhi really dislike the obtrusiveness of carbonite
23:42.03Znufftrh, I have no idea how would someone actually buy carbonite
23:42.03Xinhuandon't use it :)
23:42.35trhZnuff: me neither.. i mean carbonite quest is a nice help while you level, but after that i just deleted it =)
23:42.40Pneumatusi really dislike the constant addon message whisper spam carbonite sends to people in friends lists
23:42.56ckknightick, Pneumatus
23:43.00ZnuffI prefer QuestHelper and Cartographer
23:43.08ckknightwhispers should be used minimally
23:43.08trhPneumatus: well.. you can disable that ;) (and most of the bad stuff)
23:43.11trhPneumatus: but still
23:43.21ZnuffCarbonite's map is just... bad.
23:43.22ckknightuse group and guild in almost all cases
23:43.27ZnuffCartoGrapher is much more mature
23:43.28Pneumatusi've got several people on ignore because they whisperspam me with addon messages
23:43.34Arrowmastershould make an addon to ignore people that send you carbonite addon whispers so they get the spam and stop using it
23:43.45Xinhuanheh
23:43.46ArrowmasterZnuff: and buggy
23:43.57ZnuffArrowmaster, or better yet, make it reprot spam ^^
23:43.59PneumatusArrowmaster: do people get informed they are on ignore when they send addonmessages?
23:44.06ArrowmasterPneumatus: yes
23:44.10Pneumatusawesome.
23:44.52Pneumatusso they will be getting an "xxx is on ignore" every 10 seconds or whatever the stupid timer is then
23:45.14Arrowmasteryeah unless it hooks stuff to hide that message
23:45.18Znuffbtw, is there *any* way getting the whole wowhead.com item price database? ^^
23:45.19Tinyboomany chance anyone will update instancemaps to include wotlk instances? :)
23:45.24Pneumatusi'd bet it does :<
23:45.43ArrowmasterTinyboom: i was working on it lastnight but ran out of harddrive space
23:45.49Tinyboomlol
23:45.51Tinyboomkk
23:46.01Arrowmastergoing to do it on laptop
23:46.15Tinyboomwill test as soon as you commit :)
23:46.21Znuffso, anyone? ^^
23:46.30ArrowmasterZnuff: nope
23:46.31ckknightZnuff: you could mine it
23:46.34ckknightoutside of that, no
23:46.51Znuff:-(
23:47.11ZnuffI wouldn't like to do that, honestly :P
23:47.14Pneumatushavnt the likes of ItemPrice mined it already?
23:47.16Znuffbet it takes ages :D
23:47.22ArrowmasterPneumatus: yes
23:47.29Arrowmasterim the one updating ItemPrice-1.1
23:47.36Znuffgive database! :P
23:47.46ZnuffI want the updated wotlk one :P
23:47.51doom0rd/l it?
23:47.52Arrowmaster@project itemprice-1-1
23:47.53RepoArrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/itemprice-1-1/. ItemPrice-1.1. Game: WoW. Arrowmaster (Manager/Author), Bam (Author). Updated: 5 days ago
23:47.54Pneumatusit has an api
23:48.04PneumatusGetItemPrice() or something
23:48.22doom0rGetSellValue, which is you have to implement yourself
23:48.22Arrowmasteractually itemprice-1.1 doesnt
23:48.24ZnuffArrowmaster, you mined it all?
23:48.33ArrowmasterZnuff: yes, through different methods
23:48.34Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1199 / (12 files in 2 directories): Data regenerate to fix some faction issues
23:48.36Pneumatusah, maybe im thinking of something else then
23:48.45Znuffthat's encoded
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23:49.09Arrowmastersellfish uses itemprice-1.1 and creates the GetSellValue() function
23:49.11Znuffvery bad of you :-(
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23:49.19Arrowmasterit has to be encoded
23:49.34Znuffgarbagefu_prices is not encoded
23:49.36Arrowmasterand its not like its complex
23:50.00Arrowmasterthen garbagefu_prices must be a memory hog
23:50.03Pneumatusah, PassLoot creates its own GetSellValue() if it finds ItemPrice
23:50.21Arrowmasteri thought about making a LibItemPrice-2.0
23:50.22Odlawyar
23:50.42Arrowmasterthat directly created a GetSellValue() hook
23:50.43doom0r~api GetSellValue
23:50.43purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSellValue
23:50.48doom0r^
23:51.26ZnuffCan't you actually make WoW giveyou the sell value, without an addon?
23:51.42Arrowmasterno
23:51.49Pneumatusyeh, the version in PassLoot uses tekk's version with a call to :GetPrice()
23:51.59doom0rArrowmaster: why not just modify the sellvalue.lua in itempricetooltip to just provide a proper api? and include it?
23:52.34ZnuffArrowmaster, got any tools to mine wowhead? :)
23:52.36Arrowmasterdoom0r: i dont use itempricetooltip
23:52.44ArrowmasterZnuff: no
23:53.25PneumatusArrowmaster: you need/want people to submit itemcaches?
23:53.35Arrowmasterthe db is perty full
23:53.50Arrowmasterbut if you want sure
23:54.01Arrowmasterbut i dont really go through them that often
23:54.55ZnuffArrowmaster, should I dare ask you for a readable format of that database? :)
23:55.21doom0rZnuff: look at the bottom of the file
23:55.22ArrowmasterZnuff: look at the code, its perty easy to figure out
23:55.43ZnuffI've been looking, but my Lua skills are close to 0
23:56.02Arrowmasterdoesnt garbagefu use GetSellValue anyway
23:56.32Znuffthat never really worked, as far as I can see
23:56.38Znuffor I'm too dumb to set it up
23:56.46doom0rArrowmaster: yes, it can
23:57.04doom0rit used several different methods
23:57.59Znufffor GetSellValue what else do you need?
23:58.22Arrowmasterinstall itemprice-1.1 and something like sellfish
23:58.41Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r98 / (3 files in 2 directories): - forgot to uncomment a line
23:59.19doom0ri think both garbagefu and auctioneer also implement there own grab for itemprice without getsellvalue
23:59.36Arrowmasterthey do?
23:59.44Arrowmasteritemprice-1.1?

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