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00:09.28Arrowmaster@project mr-plow
00:09.29RepoArrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/mr-plow/. MrPlow. Game: WoW. Status: Out of date. Imported from wowace SVN project MrPlow. wobin (Manager/Author). Updated: 68 days ago. Tickets: 2/2
00:12.00Repo10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm * r8 / (2 files in 1 directory): MorgBid2
00:12.01Repo-updated .pkgmeta to fix bad Callbackhandler link
00:13.43Repo10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm * r15 / (7 files in 2 directories): MorgDKP2
00:13.44Repo-updated .pkgmeta for bad callbackhandler link
00:13.45Repo-added version to tablet
00:14.56Belazordescription for that addon has got to be the most vague description evar
00:16.03Grumhehe
00:16.10Grumit restacks stacks and sorts your inv afaik
00:17.16Mikkyeah, like... potions to that bag, gear to that bag, etc ..
00:17.35Mikk(Maybe even different areas of bags, i dunno...)
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00:25.23Pkekyo|net split much?
00:25.38Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r234 / (13 files in 6 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
00:25.39RepoXPerl: Version bump to 3.0.2.
00:25.40Repo- Added threat display for party and focus frames, to work based on your target.
00:25.41Repo- Fixed a few issues with vehicles (will only now show intended vehicles, and not ones such as being in the air at Malygos' Vortex, or on a Hog/Mammoth).
00:25.47Repo- Fixed combo points now show correctly for vehicles.
00:26.10ThraeVehicles get combo points? Can they Stealth and Ambush too?
00:26.35ThraeWatch out for that stealthed car! AMBUSH BY FORD!
00:27.01Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie 043.0.2 * r235 : Tagging as 3.0.2
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00:32.59Repo10ratings: 03jerry * r35 core.lua: German translation, thanks D4wn
00:33.55Repo10ratings: 03jerry 04v1.1.2 * r36 : Tagging as v1.1.2
00:34.13Fisker-~kiss Zeksie
00:34.14purlACTION forces Zeksie to give Orphis a big kiss on the hand
00:40.03gixThrae: they do. there's even a daily with such drakes
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00:42.45Mikk"Aces High!"
00:43.03MikkWhich I don't even get why people are having problems with
00:43.23MikkJust keep the hot stacked to 5 on yourself
00:43.30MikkAnd stack incinerate on the enemy
00:43.32MikkAnd down he goes
00:44.07fauxpas```malygos is more difficult however
00:44.07MikkYou don't even need to stack 5pt incinerates after the first one, 1pt is enough to get the stack count up
00:44.37fauxpas```just today it was like: focus on me, then someone else and then me three times .. -.-
00:44.45Mikkmuaha
00:46.03fauxpas```and 1 single combopoint engulf will only last a couple of seconds
00:46.11fauxpas```and still cost lots of energy
00:46.24fauxpas```our kill was quite funny though
00:46.36fauxpas```at ~20% only 3 of 10 were left
00:46.52fauxpas```only one of them actually had a stack built up on malygos
00:47.07Fisker-nah
00:47.13Fisker-Aces High is the hardest one
00:47.15fauxpas```he was at 20 or so when she died, which was actually after the enrage and everyone was dead
00:47.16Fisker-on a pvp server
00:47.44fauxpas```is it?
00:48.02Fisker-yeah
00:48.03fauxpas```never gotten ganked there :)
00:48.09Gnarfozhttp://media.putfile.com/WizardsofWinter-SM < remember this? if so, check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W7xj5f-eCs :D (same guys) - and click 'watch in hq', too. (isn't there some way you can force HQ via the link? :\)
00:48.13Fisker-You should try it
00:48.16Fisker-pretty expensive :)
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00:48.48Gnarfozalthough I have to say, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZJfWMva8Sk beats that :D
00:48.55Slaymanhey, how do i copy the profile of my recount from one char to the other? i seem to cannot copy profiles
00:49.10MegalonGnarfoz: only if you have an account on youtube you can set it to 'always hq'
00:49.19GnarfozI do, but that wasn't what I meant ;)
00:49.23Wobinso what's a good wardrobe addon now?
00:49.28GnarfozWobin: ItemRack
00:49.33Wobinta
00:49.45SunTsuWobin: I dig Outfitter
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00:50.18BrunersWobin: salerack
00:50.22GnarfozMegalon: I thought I saw something along the lines of appending &fmt=14 or something :\
00:50.29WobinGnarfoz: rofl that light show
00:50.54WobinIt's a cross between awesome and so ridiculously tacky
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00:54.11WobinYou can see that car in the distance going "wtf?"
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00:55.46GnarfozI'm strongly leaning towards awesome ^^
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00:57.13WobinPS, is that -lawn- covered in blue lights?
00:58.07WobinI hope no neighbours have epilepsy =)
00:58.41GnarfozI especially like the idea of transmitting the accompanying music over low range FM
00:58.53Gnarfoztoo bad you couldn't do that here in Germany :\
00:59.53Wobinhm, I should listen to more TSO
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01:00.45WobinI admit, that was well designed
01:01.25Wobinalthough I like this better: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=DeEFNhKIrKU&feature=related
01:01.31Wobinnot only is it in OZ
01:01.38WobinThey're raising money for charity =P
01:01.49Gnarfozand they're using LEDs ^^
01:01.51Wobinsimpler sure, but I like that =)
01:02.11Wobinhehe $5 a night
01:02.15Wobinnow -that- is efficiency
01:02.17Gnarfozseen that one before I started posting the links here, picked the most impressive ones obviously ^^
01:02.24BrunersWobin: if you like simple, you will love salerack :P
01:02.53Gnarfozit's not bad at all though, just a bit different :D
01:03.12Wobin"Maybe in Australia, but here in the USA that would be a $350 extra bill for the month.
01:03.13Pkekyo|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLS35kyYlOU&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div FUCKING EPIC!
01:03.13WobinTo be $110 a month you can only play 1/2 the song and only played once a night for 2 nights a week. They don't care if they are LED or not. if them so much as see the many lights on your house the charge extra. They would even check your meter."
01:03.15Wobinwtf?
01:03.22WobinAmericans charge by the light?
01:03.33Wobinor is that commenter completely missing the whole LED point?
01:03.50WobinPkekyo|: is that link possibly fucking epic?
01:03.53GnarfozI dunno, he must be on crack
01:04.04Pkekyo|Wobin: truly is, check it out
01:04.21Wobinawww
01:04.22Wobinthat's so cute
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01:04.51Pkekyo|wants
01:06.31Gnarfozdid anyone reading XKCD notice the audio preview feature YouTube added, btw? xD
01:06.46Gnarfozfor comments, that is
01:07.23Wobinof course =)
01:07.27cptnawesomeis there some special ninjatrick getting gatherer to work? I installed it, turned of herbing and mining, only enabled treasures and the everfrost marks in stormy peaks, flew to area where they are, no marks on minimap nor on world map (cartographer)
01:07.47Repo10allxp: 03Zhinjio * r2 / (7 files in 2 directories): - initial push for packaging
01:07.51SunTsucptnawesome: Import Gathermate_Data?
01:08.07Wobinhttp://blag.xkcd.com/2008/10/08/youtube-audio-preview/
01:08.08Arrowmasterhe said gatherer not gathermate
01:08.25Anaralcptnawesome: unless you also downloaded the gatherer_db mod, then you won't have nodes
01:08.29Arrowmasteryou need to actually go loot them first
01:08.30SunTsuAh ;) But the problem stays the same. No data, no display
01:08.37cptnawesomeah
01:08.40cptnawesomei feel slightly stupid now
01:08.47cptnawesomeok i dont anymore
01:09.30Repo10allxp: 03Zhinjio * r3 .pkgmeta: - *sigh* ... forgot pkgmeta edits
01:09.59SunTsucptnawesome: There are premade Gatherer databases, you can find them via google
01:10.15AnaralOr on the download page of Gatherer
01:10.25AnaralThere is a link to our latest db
01:10.30SunTsuAnaral: Is there now? OK
01:10.50AnaralSunTsu: There is. :)
01:12.03GnarfozWobin: yeah, exactly that ;> so awesome :D
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02:26.27cubicoolHas anyone seen a problem with the latest Pitbull where it won't let you use the config UI if you're in a raid?
02:28.19Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1186 / (13 files in 3 directories): Data regenerate
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02:39.47cptnawesomeanyone have/know of a gatherer db with everfrost chip spawns
02:40.06Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r478 Dalaran (2 files in 1 directory): Violet Hold:
02:40.07Repo- Fix for portals
02:40.08Repo- Added substance for Xevozz
02:40.34AnaralThe latest db on Wowi cptnawesome
02:43.14cptnawesomethen im just not using it right
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02:45.24Gngskcptnawesome, you're better off not using one imo. if you look at wowhead there's a good comment explaining the zones where they spawn
02:46.16ulicwow Repo is delayed
02:47.50Nechckncptnawesome we dont' have those in the DB right now
02:48.03Nechcknso, no- there is none that contains them
02:48.18Nechcknit is something one of the next versions will contain- but not yet.
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02:49.52NechcknIf one of the people on your server has them, they can simply send them to you.
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02:50.44Nechcknthey just need to follow the direction at http://Wiki.Norganna.Org/Gatherer Q.7 in the FAQ
02:56.10doom0rFB update includes: By popular request, drink heavily while fishing
02:56.11doom0rlol
02:59.33Repo10cartographer_quest-info: 03lahow * r97 Map.lua: Cartographer_QuestInfo:
02:59.34Repo- add error checking for callback
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03:02.52Zhinjiois OnUpdate always expensive to implement, even if you're only executing something say... every 30 seconds?
03:04.04doom0rulic: LW is corrupt or unexpected end of archive on r478
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03:06.55ulicdoom0r: are particular module or of file name?
03:07.05doom0rno, the zip the packager made
03:07.23ulicoic, so not my fault that's good :)
03:07.41doom0rya, just letting you know so you can try pushing another or get someone to take care of it
03:07.43ulicI'll see about removing the file
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03:08.51ulicit's an alpha, I just deleted the file, hopefully the next alpha will make a good one with those changes.
03:09.11ulicdoom0r: unless you really wanted to test them out or something, then I'd make it build you a new one.
03:09.24doom0rnot going there atm, so no rush
03:10.10ulicI'll probably work on it more tomorrow
03:11.13oreththat's/// what.. she said?
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03:17.22Zhinjiois there time to do stuff when PLAYER_LOGOUT fires? or is that already shutting shit down, and trying to stuff anything into SVs at that point is gonna get lost?
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03:20.24Arrowmasteryou can change stuff and it will go into the sv's
03:20.38Arrowmasterbut if you are using acedb-3.0 youll need to use its callback intead
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03:25.37ZhinjioI am using it. so I can't just assing a value into my db.xxx.yyy variable then
03:25.41Zhinjiohmm, interesting
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03:51.49Repo10arc-hud2: 03hrocdol * r113 Rings/DruidMana.lua:
03:51.49RepoAdjusted DruidMana.lua to use new UnitPower() and UnitPowerMax() APIs
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04:04.46Repo10allxp: 03tnt2ray 06zhcn * r4 / (2 files in 2 directories): add zhCN
04:06.10Zhinjiojesus maria.
04:06.24Zhinjioi just barely started this addon and he's already translatingit!
04:06.37Zhinjiodamn, once upon a time I couldn't find translators to save my life
04:10.43Repo10libdogtag-unit-3-0: 037destiny * r170 / (3 files in 2 directories): LibDogTag-Unit-3.0:
04:10.44Repo- Add "Death Knight"(class & short class)
04:10.45Repo- koKR Update
04:10.54ZhinjioTorhal: ping
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04:33.18Daemoenhey guys, anyone in here ever have a problem with bt4 button states and using ctrl to bind?
04:35.20Mytosthis is a shot in the dark, anybody know what the dattebayo irc is
04:35.35Daemoen#dattebayo on here
04:35.42Daemoenor they used to hang out on here
04:36.03Daemoenone sec, i have it saved somewhere
04:36.10Mytosnah i thought it was on rizon but its empty
04:36.11Daemoenbut why are you asking about fansubbing in wowace, lol
04:36.19Daemoenthey left rizon too
04:36.40Mytosthis is the only other irc i come to, i figured it was worth a try
04:36.54Daemoennevcairiel: ping
04:37.07Mytosim wondering why i cant get a connection to their torrent, i dont see why id be banned
04:37.38Daemoenummm
04:37.53Daemoenwould actually be kinda hard to ban specific users from downloading a torrent in the first place based on how torrenting works
04:39.33Mytosthey run centralized tracking, not that hard
04:40.04Daemoendoesnt feel like arguing it right now, but thats not entirely accurate.
04:40.44Mytoslol i just wanna know why im seeing 0 seeds and 0 peers on a torrent two weeks old
04:40.52Daemoenwhich torrent?
04:41.06Mytosship 85
04:41.49Daemoenfrom the looks of it, there arent many sources for it right now
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04:42.58Daemoenalso, since you just mentioned ship, you might want to read the news post about it
04:43.30Mytosyeah but thats not for another month
04:43.47Daemoentrue, but most people dont pay attention to the announcements
04:43.54Mytosi do lol
04:44.27Daemoeni was actually very disappointed by the vote
04:44.37Daemoenespecially since they are telling us to watch the cartoon network trash
04:44.48Daemoenthats not subbed, its piss poor dubbing, the voices completely ruin it
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04:52.15Daemoenalso sucks in general that viz licensed it here in the us :(
04:53.08Mytosyea
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05:08.41Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03arith * r1793 Locales/constants.tw.lua: zhTW update
05:10.35doom0rDaemoen: using just ctrl?
05:10.50Daemoendoom0r: yes
05:10.54doom0rit's a modifier
05:10.59Daemoentrying to use control - 1 for instance, wont work
05:11.00doom0rwow doesn't see it like a key
05:11.00Daemoeni realize that
05:11.15doom0rso... then the it wasn't just ctrl :P
05:11.16Daemoendoom0r: i mean... bt4 page 1 state control active 10
05:11.20Daemoenno  sorry,
05:13.29NeoTronAntiarc: so sexymap hud is nice... except it breaks tomtom
05:13.41Antiarcyeah, I know about that one
05:13.43AntiarcI need to fix it
05:14.18NeoTronplease do. :) also the hud isn't movable?
05:14.22TorhalHah
05:14.47TorhalI found a recipe for eggnog and gingerbread in my mule's bank
05:14.51TorhalFrom last year
05:14.55TorhalSold 'em for 20g each
05:16.17NeoTronI have to make it rather small because of my screen layout, woudl love to move it up some
05:20.27TorhalMethinks I'll sell more eggnog and gingerbread recipes since I have 'em.
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05:27.37thulIm so tired
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05:50.53Repo10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r23 Broker_RecZone.lua: Broker_RecZone:
05:50.54Repo- More futzing with the layout
05:51.02Repo10broker_garbagefu: 03LordFarlander * r3 / (4 files in 2 directories): Broker_GarbageFu
05:51.02Repo- Works at least now lol
05:52.49Torhal...
05:52.55TorhalDid he seriously name it that?
05:52.56TorhalOMFG
05:53.28doom0ri think the full name was GarbageFu for broker
05:53.35doom0r;x
05:53.39Torhal...
05:53.40TorhalFail.
05:53.59doom0rand it's just a port iirc
05:54.04doom0rso f2b fail
05:54.38TorhalI mean, why not "Broker_Garbage"...even though that in itself is silly
05:54.52doom0rGarbage Broker imo
05:54.56doom0r;x
05:54.59ZhinjioI still use garbagefu
05:55.07Zhinjioit works just fine through f2b
05:55.27TorhalZhinjio: Damn you, now I gotta load WoW again.
05:55.34Zhinjiouh...
05:55.37Zhinjiowhat did I do>?
05:55.46TorhalYou made AllXP. I must see how it looks.
05:55.54Zhinjioit looks like shit at the moment
05:55.55Zhinjioheh
05:56.00ZhinjioI wouldn't load yet
05:56.10TorhalIt probably looks better than Broker_XP
05:56.16Zhinjiobroker_xp is ass
05:56.20doom0rif you need to see how it looks, it looks like you need to level :P
05:56.24TorhalI'm half-tempted to re-write it and commit.
05:56.25Zhinjioanddidn't do what I wanted
05:56.36TorhalThough that would be in bad form
05:56.51Torhaldoom0r: Bah. I've been level 75 for two weeks
05:57.03doom0rleveling is a joke
05:57.08TorhalEveryone rushed to 80 and I'm off doing other shit
05:57.18doom0ryou don't need to rush
05:57.20doom0rjust quest
05:57.23doom0rit's sinfully easy
05:57.25TorhalAye
05:57.42TorhalBut I find myself not wanting to abandon the old stuff
05:57.45TorhalAnd then I pick up more
05:57.49doom0rbut at your rate, gonna have to change your name to torta
05:57.53TorhalHaha
05:58.06TorhalI've been futzing with achievements, which are as useless as levels.
05:58.23doom0rno, 77 if flight
05:58.38TorhalI can't fly in the old world, and that's where I've been lately :)
06:00.02TorhalZhinjio: Broker_XP not only looked like ass but the "trending for your mom" stuff made me want to slap it harder
06:00.48Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r110 / (4 files in 1 directory): GatherMate_Data: Weekly update
06:00.50Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro 04v1.16 * r111 : GatherMate_Data: weekly update
06:01.42ZhinjioI didn't look at it long enough to see anything except that it looked like ass
06:02.38TorhalWell, at least "GarbageFu for Broker" is using LibQTip instead of Tablet
06:03.39TorhalThough it's fail.
06:03.54TorhalHe's declaring functions that return self.db.profile.whatever
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06:04.43aestilWotLK should be called the cloth and plate expansion
06:05.32doom0rwrath of the loot knights
06:06.32Repo10baldrick: 03LordFarlander * r108 / (5 files in 2 directories): Baldrick:
06:06.33Repo- Fixing some more Wrath quests
06:07.31Repo10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander 043.0.24-beta * r24 : Tagging as 3.0.24-beta
06:07.56Zhinjiobefore autobar handled pets right, and befoer i found tekkub's kennel, I considered using LordFarlander's minipet or whatever things.
06:08.00Zhinjiothen I tried loading them
06:08.02Zhinjiothen I tried using them
06:08.07Zhinjiothen I uninstalled them
06:08.16Repo10baldrick: 03LordFarlander 041.5.109-release * r109 : Tagging as 1.5.109-release
06:09.08Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz * r46 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added first pass on filtering. Seams to work okay in game.
06:10.12MikkI'm stubbing my brain
06:10.22MikkI'm rewriting hooksecurefunc() for wowbench
06:10.32Mikk(no, not doing any taint shit.. just making it hook stuff)
06:10.54MikkI'm 99% certain there's a way of doing it without tables and unpack()
06:11.03MikkBut I'm not seeing it right now >:<
06:11.30doom0rcollared shirt?
06:12.10Mikkok that one flew right over my heas
06:12.11doom0roh, i c it, it's an arakkoa
06:12.12Mikkd
06:12.28Mikkone flew over the arakkoa's nest?
06:12.29doom0rthat smilie
06:12.45Mikkno, it's a >.< where i didn't release shift quickly enough
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06:14.04Mikki'm thinking something like function callmyhooks(origfunc(...))
06:14.10Mikkwhich gets hold of and preserves the return value
06:14.17Mikkbut then i don't get the original params
06:15.29Mikkhm, i suppose i could loadstring() a bunch of different versions depending on number of parameters and save those away in locals
06:15.54Mikkstubs his brain again
06:16.08Mikkhilfe? :S
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06:34.02ZhinjioMikk:  the best I can is provide some anaesthetic.
06:36.07NechcknZhinjio  I will guess that you know of a spurious LibQTip issue with hitcrit?
06:36.41ZhinjioYes, I know of at least one
06:36.50Nechckn..\AddOns\Broker_HitCrit\Broker_HitCrit.lua line 47:   Cannot find a library instance of "LibQTip-1.0".
06:36.57Nechcknthat guy?
06:37.00Zhinjioreally?
06:37.08Zhinjiowhat version are you using?
06:37.10Nechcknyeah... that's from the embedded one
06:37.24ZhinjioI thought I got rid of all that.
06:37.47Nechckndid you update today or something?
06:37.51Nechcknsorry.. one sec
06:38.30ZhinjioI think that was fixed in 2.1-release or maybe 2.2
06:38.58NechcknI grabbed it yesterday... checking which version
06:39.13Zhinjioooo, that reminds me, I don't have the TOC updating with the revision numbers in the about page yet
06:39.16Zhinjioneed to do that
06:40.47Nechckn1.2
06:41.10Zhinjiodon't look at the toc, it isn't updating. look at the bliz options main header... "Version"
06:41.12NechcknI swear I just grabbed it yesterday... bah.  Pay no mind to me
06:41.22NechcknAh
06:41.27Nechcknkk hold on
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06:44.24Zhinjior30 alpha or later (2.1-release) should have that fixed.
06:44.48Zhinjioif you grabbed it yesterday, that should definitelyu be fixed
06:45.43Nechcknr35
06:45.51Nechcknsupposedly
06:45.53Zhinjioyeah, no question.
06:46.04NechcknI'll try re-downloading
06:46.05Zhinjiook, lemme try and load it without anything else and see if I can reproduce.
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06:47.28Zhinjiohmm
06:47.30Zhinjiono errors
06:47.42Zhinjioall I'm loading is bugsack, fortress and hitcrit
06:47.44Zhinjioembedded
06:47.58Nechcknkk... it's d/ling now, I'll give a yell
06:48.06Zhinjioroger
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06:51.56Nechcknstarting up with the 2.3 tag now
06:52.49NechcknHuh... yeah, that one is fine
06:53.03Zhinjiook, good.
06:53.39Nechcknvery odd- but, whatever.  All good!
06:53.59Zhinjioah, do you use addonloader?
06:54.01NechcknYou wouldn't like me if I had to go without my cheese!
06:54.22ZhinjioI almost used another cheese icon for the one I started coding today
06:54.23NechcknAddOnControlPanel
06:55.00Zhinjioit can modify load orders, eh?
06:56.46NechcknWell... just in blocks, sort of like how Khaos used to
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06:59.27NechcknI've never had to need that sort of functionality- it seems pretty sweet, though.
06:59.55NechcknSomething that would be handy for some of the PVP only addons, etc
07:00.08Zhinjionods.
07:00.13ZhinjioI just started using it recently.
07:00.28ZhinjioSo far, it hasn't screwed with my world too much, so I'll keep putting in stubs for it.
07:00.59Nechcknlol
07:02.36Repo10proculas: 03Xocide * r34 / (4 files in 1 directory): Added a Procs Last Minute counter.
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07:29.39Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r89 / (3 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
07:29.40Repo- fixed db update schema issue
07:29.41Repo- added wow 2.4 event processing for unit death
07:29.42Repoevents on boss kill should work again
07:29.46Repo- fixed issue with lookups not processing: player leaves, loot receives
07:30.16Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r90 RaidTracker.toc: - version bump
07:30.40Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.1.21 * r91 : Tagging as 2.1.21
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07:38.43doom0rthis whole pretending to be an auctioneer in silvermoon isn't working out well
07:38.46CIA-50wowbench: 03mikeclueby4 * r183 10/trunk/api.lua:
07:38.46CIA-50wowbench: - hooksecurefunc() [HALF]
07:38.46CIA-50wowbench: Works in all aspects, except it has nothing to do with secure. And it won't complain if you try to setfenv() the hook like the real one does.
07:39.01CIA-50wowbench: 03mikeclueby4 * r184 10/trunk/debugger.lua:
07:45.27exor674... pretending to be an auctioneer o>O
07:50.29Arrowmasterdoom0r: people use the silvermoon auction houses?
07:50.35doom0ryes, twinks
07:50.43doom0runfortunately, i don't have a BE costume
07:50.56doom0ralso the occasional random person
07:51.36doom0rthey've got close, but noone has clicked on me yet =\
07:54.09Repo10xperl: 03StingerSoft * r236 / (2 files in 2 directories): XPerl: ruRU update
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08:25.47Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r70 Locales/Locale-enUS.lua: - Shorter tooltips
08:25.48Repo- Hot Streak messages now have a default 1 minute default cooldown
08:25.49Repo- Invisibility messages now default to the Say channel in Parties
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08:35.45Grumdoom0r: got an alt guild called Auctioneer orso? :D
08:35.58doom0rno =\
08:36.45Grumi've got a <Death Knight Trainer> guild ^^
08:36.49Grumhad lots of fun with that
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08:58.25orionshockso with the few fan updates to cart3 and the lack of update from the author... would this be a case where i clone it and patch the fan updates ?
08:58.51asmodaiIt would be the case where it should just die.
08:58.52asmodai:P
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08:59.31HirsuteNo!  I like Cart3.  No dieing.
08:59.36orionshockasmodai: cart3 not 2
08:59.37orionshock:P
08:59.44asmodaiSame difference. :P
09:00.04ikon2is there still a data addon for cartographer that shows all the herb and mine nodes?
09:00.14orionshockhey hey, don't hate man
09:00.21HirsuteGatherer works just fine with Cartographer.
09:00.32HirsuteI think Gathermate might as well, though I don't use that one.
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09:01.24ikon2so I would need to install gatherer and cartographer?
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09:01.29orionshockGatherMate and HandyNotes pretty much were written to replace the defunct modules in Cart2
09:01.30GrumIIEEEEWW
09:01.34Grumdont use gatherer! :p
09:01.42Hirsute<.<
09:01.44Hirsute>,>
09:01.48asmodaimapster + gathermate + gathermate_data + handynotes*
09:01.50CIA-50wowbench: 03basslingo * r185 10/trunk/api_action.lua: Action API - Initial Commit
09:01.53Hirsutelikes gatherer just fine.
09:01.55basslingoikon2: Cartographer_Data
09:02.03orionshockbasslingo: no
09:02.05orionshockno no
09:02.06basslingoeven though its a massive spam on the map -.-
09:02.10Grumiew GatherMate_Data
09:02.18orionshockdon't use it it's out of date and not maintained anymore
09:02.31orionshockanything to do with cart2 just up and delete and forget it existed
09:02.32basslingoi use it for Pre-wotlk crap
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09:03.34orionshockno
09:03.52orionshockGatherMate & GatherMate_Data  Do EVERYTHING you need
09:03.53Grumbasslingo: that makes just no sense
09:03.55Grumindeed
09:04.14basslingohehe  im old fashioned ;)
09:04.20Grumclearly :)
09:04.53orionshock...
09:05.07ikon2why did asmodai say gathermate + handynotes?
09:05.24ikon2what extra stuff does handynotes do?
09:05.43Grumnothing
09:05.47Grumthat is so awesome about it
09:05.59Grumit just adds usermade notes do the map
09:06.00orionshockHandyNotes does what the rest of the old Cart2 modules did. Like add flightmasters to the map n' such like that
09:06.22asmodaiWhat orionshock said.
09:06.37ikon2ahh
09:06.37asmodaior record trainer positions
09:06.37asmodaior sellers
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09:08.50CIA-50wowbench: 03basslingo * r186 10/trunk/api.lua: Removed functions that are now in the action api file
09:10.04basslingohowever i was gonna remove it due to it spamming my maps ;)
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09:25.29CIA-50wowbench: 03basslingo * r187 10/trunk/widgets.lua: widgets wanted hooksecurefunct api had hooksecurefunc -.- stupid spelling
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09:30.15CaptainSegfaultoh wow I've been triggering traffic in this channel even if I've been completely silent otherwise
09:30.23theoddone33hmm the nice damage trinket dropped of sarth
09:30.26theoddone33didn't get it
09:30.33basslingohehe Cap  ;)
09:31.03theoddone33really kind of annoyed how easy 0 drakes sarth is even in heroic
09:31.06orionshockbasslingo: what is wowbench?
09:31.30basslingoaddon workbench outside of wow
09:31.31CaptainSegfaultgot tired of having to clobber your lousy bit.so because a macosx library isn't going to load in linux. :-P
09:31.40basslingolol
09:32.18Repo10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 07master * v3.0.4-1-g1c16bdd Omen.lua: [+1 commit] Put a throtle on the UpdateBars function, reducing CPU usage to about 20%-40% compared to before, with no loss of threat updates (more savings when in a larger raid).
09:32.58basslingoCaptainSegfault: want me to cross-compile one for linux?
09:33.40CaptainSegfaultI have one installed on my system already
09:33.45basslingokk
09:34.10basslingoits easy enough for linux users compile stuff
09:34.28basslingofor mac users , you have to get a freakin 1.5gig+ package
09:35.04CaptainSegfaultmakes sense
09:36.30CIA-50wowbench: 03basslingo * r188 10/trunk/api_action.lua: Fixed my stupid typos ;)
09:36.35CaptainSegfault(but, yeah, thus the logic I added; . is at the beginning of the search path so it was failing to load the included bit.so before even trying to load the nice one in /usr/local/lib/.../)
09:36.53basslingolol forgot about that issue -.-
09:37.18basslingomaking that libs folder works then
09:38.28CaptainSegfaultI was thinking of a more general determining what OS we are and then determining what library to load, etc
09:38.47basslingoif ya do, thats in the utils file
09:38.57basslingowhich needs to be integrated more into wowbench
09:39.26CaptainSegfaultright, at least the start of it
09:40.13CaptainSegfaultonce we're in unix we've got uname
09:41.53basslingomac has uname
09:41.58basslingoit reports  Darwin
09:42.02CaptainSegfaultexactly
09:42.06basslingo;)
09:42.18basslingoso basicly detect folder types
09:42.22basslingo\ or /
09:42.29basslingothen do a uname if *nix based
09:43.11basslingooh, you've been seein what i was doin with the API files right?
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09:43.22CaptainSegfaultsplitting them up?
09:43.26basslingoya
09:43.32CaptainSegfaultI think that's a wonderful idea.
09:43.42basslingowas gonna have API.lua have all the WOWB functions
09:43.48basslingothen the others have the real ones
09:44.13Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03maqjav * r1794 Locales/constants.es.lua: - esES Update with the last changes.
09:44.44CaptainSegfaultseems sane
09:45.44basslingojust remember to take them out of api.lua if you add em to the separate api file
09:46.22CaptainSegfaultmostly, I think that having everything in alphabetical order might have worked in 1.x days but the API has grown so large now that we at least should sort them together, whether or not they're in separate files
09:46.28CaptainSegfaultand then separate files is "why not"
09:46.45doom0rwindows is ver
09:46.46basslingoyea
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09:48.28CaptainSegfaultI've been looking at refactoring the addon loading code a little to support addon loading more properly
09:49.02Finsmiles
09:50.01CaptainSegfaultkek that sounded funny
09:50.46FinI'm not mocking you, don't worry - I was just remembering some discussions previously about addon loading and stuff
09:51.00Finsome of the discussions were quite, er, epic
09:51.04Finepicish, anyway
09:51.19CaptainSegfaultlol
09:51.21Findefinitely not short and sweet
09:51.30Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r71 Locales/Locale-enUS.lua: Further clarification of the tooltips
09:53.39CaptainSegfaultit's kinda funny in that it doesn't *look* all that bad to me
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09:56.20CaptainSegfaultanywho, I'm one daily away from exalted with kalu'ak
09:56.21Slaymanhai gais
09:56.43Slaymanwho's in charge of LibPeriodictable?
09:56.46CaptainSegfaultso I'm going wow-wards. :-)
09:57.38EthanCentaurailua> ("|Hplayer:Omnomnom|hOmnomnom|h"):match("Omnom")
09:57.38lua_botEthanCentaurai: Omnom
09:57.57EthanCentaurailua> ("|Hplayer:Omnomnom|hOmnomnom|h"):match("^Omnom$")
09:57.58lua_botEthanCentaurai: nil
09:58.14EthanCentaurailua> ("|Hplayer:Omnomnom|hOmnomnom|h"):match("^Omnomnom$")
09:58.14lua_botEthanCentaurai: nil
09:58.18EthanCentaurai:(
09:58.21asmodai@project libperiodictable
09:58.21Repoasmodai: No project found that matches 'libperiodictable'
09:59.26EthanCentaurai@project libperiodictable-3-1
09:59.27RepoEthanCentaurai: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libperiodictable-3-1/. LibPeriodicTable-3.1. Game: WoW. Nymbia (Manager/Author), Azethoth (Author). Updated: 29 hours ago. Tickets: 2/6
09:59.36asmodaiEthanCentaurai: >_<
09:59.47asmodaiso much for name matching without version ids
10:00.16Slayman@project LibPeriodicTable-3.1
10:00.17RepoSlayman: No project found that matches 'LibPeriodicTable-3.1'
10:00.21Slayman@project LibPeriodicTable
10:00.22RepoSlayman: No project found that matches 'LibPeriodicTable'
10:00.35SlaymanRepo: FUCK YOU!
10:00.43EthanCentaurailua> ("|Hplayer:Omnomnom|hOmnomnom|h"):match("|hOmnom|h")
10:00.43lua_botEthanCentaurai: nil
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10:04.19orionshocklua> ("|Hplayer:Omnomnom|hOmnomnom|h"):match("|h(%w+)|h")
10:04.19lua_botorionshock: Omnomnom
10:04.42orionshockmatch() takes a pattern, most of the rest can take string literals :D
10:04.50orionshock*straight strings
10:05.42EthanCentauraiwhy didn't I think of that? :/
10:05.47EthanCentauraineeds more coffee
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10:05.57EthanCentauraicheers onionshock :)
10:06.08EthanCentaurais/onion/orion/
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10:07.49Slaymandelicious OnionShock!
10:08.28EthanCentauraian apple a day keeps the doctor away, whereas an onion a day keeps everyone away :)
10:10.24basslingolol
10:13.07Grum(%w+) <-- bad to use because it doesnt match unicode chars
10:13.29EthanCentauraiI know I just realise that
10:13.50Grumlua> ("|Hplayer:Omnomnom|hOmnomnom|h"):match("|h([^|]+)|h")
10:13.50lua_botGrum: Omnomnom
10:15.17Fisker-slaps orionshock around a bit with a large trout
10:15.35EthanCentaurai-_-
10:16.35EthanCentauraithanks Grum
10:17.10Slayman@project PeriodicTable-3.1
10:17.10RepoSlayman: No project found that matches 'PeriodicTable-3.1'
10:17.12Slayman@project PeriodicTable
10:17.13RepoSlayman: No project found that matches 'PeriodicTable'
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10:17.19Slaymani hate it SO much
10:17.27Slaymanwho's in Charge?
10:17.53Slaymanof PT I mean ...
10:20.31Repo10gathermate: 03merah * r627 / (2 files in 2 directories): GatherMate:
10:20.31Repo-frFR fishing update
10:21.06Slaymanwhere do I get the part of the ItemID that's behind the :, in the Bag-section to be more precise
10:21.09Grumwhy do you hate it?
10:21.11EthanCentaurai@project libperiodictable-3-1
10:21.11RepoEthanCentaurai: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libperiodictable-3-1/. LibPeriodicTable-3.1. Game: WoW. Nymbia (Manager/Author), Azethoth (Author). Updated: 30 hours ago. Tickets: 2/6
10:21.51Grumyou are better of hating blizzard for not providing it in their default interface :D
10:22.02Repo10ihatetabards: 03yess * r2 / (2 files in 1 directory): initial commit
10:22.03SlaymanGrum, cuz i don't get why it's case sensitive
10:22.16Grumcase sensitive?
10:22.25EthanCentauraiit matches the project's short name
10:22.54EthanCentaurainot it's pretty face name (libperiodictable-3-1 != LibPeriodicTable-3.1)
10:23.35Repo10loot-db: 03ozma211 * r46 lootdbLocals-koKR.lua: LootDB:
10:23.36Repo- koKR Update
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10:23.41SlaymanEthanCentaurai: yeah once i read it more closely i Saw it anyway, the ItemID thingy, what about that?
10:23.58doom0r@project LIBperioDIctable-2-1
10:24.09doom0rfail
10:24.15EthanCentauraiI don't know, I don't write or use PT
10:24.23doom0r@project LIBperioDIctable-3-1
10:24.45doom0rsmacks Repo
10:25.33Slaymansee Repo is stupid after all :D
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10:29.44doom0rnorthrends world map level is rubbish
10:29.51Grum?
10:30.04doom0rthe art does not go well with the actual zones layouts
10:30.35doom0rthe whole icecrown crystal song border is terribad
10:30.39Grumyou mean its off too much?
10:30.54doom0rthat or not defined
10:30.59doom0rdepends on how you look at it
10:31.09doom0rjust that whole area around dalaran
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10:31.26Repodoom0r: No project found that matches 'LIBperioDIctable-2-1'
10:31.50doom0rRepo must have been on break
10:31.51Repodoom0r: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libperiodictable-3-1/. LibPeriodicTable-3.1. Game: WoW. Nymbia (Manager/Author), Azethoth (Author). Updated: 30 hours ago. Tickets: 2/6
10:31.54Repo10ihatetabards: 03yess 04v0.1 * r3 : Tagging as v0.1
10:32.00doom0rsee, case doesn't matter
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10:32.30doom0rthe fact that it has to be exact kinda sucks
10:32.55EthanCentauraiwhy not use the search box on the homepage? :)
10:33.09doom0ri would think with searching being so costly, that would be an incentive to fix all the search issues
10:33.24doom0rcause that means i have to open a browser and go there?
10:33.39doom0ror if i'm referring someone to something i would have to have it proper first?
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10:36.02EthanCentauraiI can't push to my repo anymore :/
10:36.16Grumand the error you get?
10:36.40EthanCentaurai"AttributeError" the repo has no attribute "is_open"
10:36.57Grumckknight omg!
10:37.12EthanCentauraickknight isn't here atm
10:38.57EthanCentauraihmm unchecking and rechecking the Is Open option doesn't fix it
10:41.21Repo10proculas: 03Xocide * r35 Core.lua: Added a Custom Proc Message feature.
10:41.39doom0rthat's not so bad EthanCentaurai: it could be saying "lp0 on fire"
10:42.09EthanCentaurailooks like SVN isn't affected
10:42.14EthanCentauraitries again.
10:42.32Repo10broker-currency: 03Azethoth * r26 / (3 files in 1 directory): --Fix honor and arena points
10:42.33Repo--Icons for them
10:43.08EthanCentaurainope, not working
10:43.13EthanCentauraiKaelten HALP!
10:43.33EthanCentauraimakes a pastey.
10:45.39Repo10broker-currency: 03Azethoth 04v3.00.03.06 beta release * r27 : Tagging as v3.00.03.06 beta release
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10:49.47EthanCentauraihttp://ace.pastey.net/103876
10:50.22EthanCentauraiany other Git/Mercurial users have this problem? Subversion is unnaffected it seems
10:52.53Xinhuanping ck about it
10:53.34EthanCentaurai~seen ckknight
10:53.37purlckknight <n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 7h 11m 17s ago, saying: 'I don't know, Adys, sorry'.
11:01.14Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r72 Locales/Locale-deDE.lua: improved german translation by Lexin
11:01.25Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r73 Locales/Locale-enUS.lua: the war against wordy tooltips continues
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11:08.58Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r74 SpeakinSpell.toc: added a description in German
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11:22.36Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r75 Locales (2 files in 1 directory): fixed syntax errors
11:27.09Repo10vanas-ko-s: 03Vana * r284 modules (5 files in 1 directory):
11:27.10RepoVanasKoS: nicer configuration screens, started work on new synchronizer
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11:33.55SlaymanHey
11:34.14Slaymananybody PLEASE check that, and if it's alright codewise, commit it!
11:34.16Slaymanhttp://www.pastey.net/103879
11:35.00Slaymandata stolen of of wowhead of course
11:35.58Repo10vanas-ko-s: 03Vana * r285 / (2 files in 1 directory): VanasKoS: forgot to commit that one
11:35.59Slaymanadded Leatherworking bags, and possible contents, updated Herb Bag Contents, added Inscription Bags and possible contents
11:39.06Repo10guildmanager: 03ciscoh * r83 / (3 files in 2 directories): nothing to report
11:40.16Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r76 Locales/Locale-deDE.lua: removed an extra blank line
11:43.29Slayman~seen Nymbia
11:43.30purlnymbia <n=nymbia@c-67-190-49-185.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7d 4h 16m 7s ago, saying: 'Groktar: :('.
11:43.46Slaymana week? damn
11:43.52SlaymanNymbia: ping
11:44.05Slayman@project libperiodictable-3-1
11:44.05RepoSlayman: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libperiodictable-3-1/. LibPeriodicTable-3.1. Game: WoW. Nymbia (Manager/Author), Azethoth (Author). Updated: 31 hours ago. Tickets: 2/6
11:44.24SlaymanAzethoth, ping
11:44.29Slayman~seen Azethoth
11:44.29purlSlayman: i haven't seen 'azethoth'
11:44.36ZhinjioAzethoth == Toadkiller
11:44.45SlaymanToadkiller ping
11:45.19Slaymanwhatever
11:45.24Slayman~seen Toadkiller
11:45.25purltoadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-99-188-166-150.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 22h 46m 39s ago, saying: 'Kuja^: That should do the trick'.
11:45.48SlaymanToadkiller: if you EVER read this: http://www.pastey.net/103879 commit plz, after checking kkthxbye
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11:50.59SlaymanOk, checked my changes, appear to be working, could not check inscription, don't have it, herbalism and leatherworking are working fine and are being recognised, changes should work across the board
11:51.57Slaymanooh you can move full bags to your bank now?
11:52.26Slaymansweet
11:53.16Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r77 Locales/Locale-deDE.lua: fixed a syntax error
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11:55.09doom0ryou couldn't before?
11:55.12Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r78 Locales/Locale-deDE.lua: fixed more small errors in the German text
11:55.35Slaymanthe last time i tried it said you can't
11:56.02doom0ri've never seen the usefullness in that anyways
11:56.04Grumi think you always could
11:56.15Grumme neither but some people like to store sets of gear in bags
11:56.21Gruminstead of using outfitter/closetgnome
11:56.26doom0rwhich sounds fine on paper
11:56.34doom0rbut why not always have it?
11:56.43Slaymanhow can a 28slot bag be too small for all the f*ing herbs? that's plain stupid!
11:57.56Slaymanand blizzard is not as stupid as I hoped they were regarding inscription bags
11:58.18Slaymaneven though you need herbs they don't fit there
11:58.56Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r79 SpeakinSpell.lua: slash commands are no longer case sensitive
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12:05.23TNSeheh
12:05.38Slaymanso who knows of itemID? and why the specialty bags have :suffix to them?
12:05.41TNSethey should call inscription bag "Scrapbook box."
12:06.27Slaymanok it's the size of the bag ...
12:06.30doom0rhow bout crapper keeper?
12:06.34doom0rer scrapper
12:06.37doom0rbut that works too
12:06.49doom0rin homage to the ole trapper keeper
12:08.22Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r80 SpeakinSpell.lua: fixed a possible problem with resetting to default settings
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12:13.18Torhal@project lib-periodictable
12:13.19RepoTorhal: No project found that matches 'lib-periodictable'
12:13.22evlAnyone using Combuctor?
12:16.48ZhinjioI have used it.
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12:18.56Slaymanevl: bag to bagnon
12:19.11EthanCentaurai@project libperiodictable-3-1
12:19.27Slaymans/bag/back/
12:19.29RepoEthanCentaurai: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libperiodictable-3-1/. LibPeriodicTable-3.1. Game: WoW. Nymbia (Manager/Author), Azethoth (Author). Updated: 32 hours ago. Tickets: 2/6
12:20.13trhhttp://roflrazzi.com/2008/12/05/celebrity-pictures-crocker-kissed/ <- lol
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12:30.24SlaymanI totally rock at upgrading PT 3.1 giev commitment permissions so all can enjoy my awesomeness!
12:30.28Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r81 Locales/Locale-deDE.lua: fixed mage spell names in German
12:30.31Slaymanhttp://www.pastey.net/103879
12:30.37SlaymanI totally rock at upgrading PT 3.1 giev commitment permissions so all can enjoy my awesomeness!
12:31.23Slaymans/"I totally rock at upgrading PT 3.1 giev commitment permissions so all can enjoy my awesomeness!"/"scratch that"/
12:35.09Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner 04v3.0.3.14-release * r82 : Tagged 3.0.3.14
12:35.10RepoThe new support for German is still in beta testing. We will provide more corrections soon to fix default settings for German spell names and any remaining typos.
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12:39.56SlaymanOK, i redid the specialty Bags to completition, now only commit is needed :(
12:39.56Slaymanhttp://www.pastey.net/103879
12:41.45Slaymani take that back, I'm upgrading the possible contents of all specialties now. Afterwards, I'll be done
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12:45.31doom0rtoo much caffeine?
12:46.26nevcairielSlayman: you know, those sets are auto-generated, once someone runs the dataminer, it will probably overwrite your sutff
12:46.29nevcairiel*stuff
12:47.03Slaymanit's 3 weeks since the addon got live, and EVERY set was out of date
12:47.29nevcairielmaybe noone ran the miner :D
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12:48.52Slaymanthan commit that or run the miner, anyway important is only the update.
12:49.32Slaymandone btw, wasn't that much work once you get the regex down to parse the content of wowhead page
12:50.01nevcairielwonder if i have the stuff thats required to run the miner
12:50.03nevcairieltests
12:50.25njalanyone seen ckknight lately? :)
12:50.42Slaymanckknight, ping
12:50.47Slayman~seen ckknight
12:50.49purlckknight <n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 9h 8m 29s ago, saying: 'I don't know, Adys, sorry'.
12:50.49nevcairielhe isnt here
12:51.15Slayman~pst
12:51.28njalah, thanks :)
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12:54.40Slaymannevcairiel: you done checking, if so what's the result?
12:55.56Arrowmasterpeople have been updating LPT3.1 quite often
12:56.48SlaymanArrowmaster: they have? well if that's the case then someone should tell the damn curse client to get a newer version
12:56.56Arrowmaster.....
12:57.26Arrowmasterfirst thing you do before ever complaining that an addon hasnt been updated is go fucking check the alphas
12:57.27SlaymanI'm not starting that freaking piece of codecancer anymore
12:57.56nevcairielthere, the miner is running
12:58.56prefix|anyone here ever found an everfrost chip?
12:59.19nevcairielsure
12:59.21nevcairielmultiple
12:59.33prefix|are they lootable game objects with a cocwheel?
12:59.48nevcairielya
13:00.40ArrowmasterSlayman: that stuff in pt3.1 you are complaining about isnt needed anymore
13:01.03Arrowmastertheres a game api that returns it
13:01.34SlaymanArrowmaster: there is? doesn't matter since noone told MrPlow that there is an API
13:01.45Arrowmasterbitch to Wobin
13:01.55Slayman~seen Wobin
13:01.56purlwobin is currently on #wowuidev (10h 50m 18s) #wowace (10h 50m 18s). Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 3h 46m 6s, last said: 'any site that offers 'dangerous magnets' can't be too bad =)'.
13:03.01Wobin?
13:03.08Slaymanas far as I can see there was no update to MrPlow since 09/29 bitching won't help much
13:03.14Wobinit's true
13:03.18Slaymanhello wobin you remember MrPlow?
13:03.20WobinI haven't updated it in a long time
13:03.28Arrowmasterit makes you feel better
13:04.48SlaymanWobin: according to Arrowmaster there's an Ingame API that can take care of what items fit what bag, just so i told you, now back to idling
13:05.02Wobinyes
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13:06.28Wobinhowever, it needs to be rewritten to take advantage of that
13:07.22nevcairielchopchop?
13:07.53Grumjust use  BankStack
13:07.55Gruminstead of MrPlow
13:08.03GrumMrPlow is slow as hell anyways
13:08.15Wobinonot the new version
13:08.33Wobinbut I still haven't had time to get to finding out why I always stop sorting at the last swap
13:08.34SlaymanArrowmaster: i pulled the Alpha of LPT 3.1 off CurseClient, and on first sight the data is still in there, and my changes are in there too.
13:09.07Slaymannot "my" changes but the same changes i did locally
13:13.49Slayman@project Bankstack
13:13.50RepoSlayman: No project found that matches 'Bankstack'
13:14.03Slayman@project bankstack
13:14.03doom0r2w
13:14.03RepoSlayman: No project found that matches 'bankstack'
13:14.10doom0rcase doesn't matter
13:14.19Slayman~fail Repo
13:14.20purlRepo, you Fail!
13:14.27Stanzilla@project bank-stack
13:14.28RepoStanzilla: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bank-stack/. BankStack. Game: WoW. Kemayo (Manager/Author). Updated: 29 days ago. Tickets: 1/1
13:14.28doom0r@project bank-stack
13:14.29Repodoom0r: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bank-stack/. BankStack. Game: WoW. Kemayo (Manager/Author). Updated: 29 days ago. Tickets: 1/1
13:14.31Stanzillahai
13:14.56Slaymanhi Stanzilla
13:15.42Slaymandoes BankStack does the same as MrPlow? description is kinda undescriptive, if it's only bankstacking it's not enough, for me at least
13:18.02manyis the crusaders pinnacle in icecrown another phaseshifting region?
13:18.14Megalonyes
13:18.33manythat explains why people talk about mobs there which i havent seen when traveling there
13:18.39manysigh :-) thanks
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13:24.22Repo10cryolysis3: 03Belazor * r97 data/spellcache.lua: - Remove redundant Paladin blessings from :HasSpell()
13:24.22Repo- Added Teleport: Dalaran and Portal: Dalaran to :HasSpell()
13:24.42Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Nevcairiel * r92 / (8 files in 8 directories): Dataminer Run
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13:26.49Repo10cryolysis3: 03Belazor * r98 data/spellcache.lua: Remove some redundant code.
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13:32.41Repo10cryolysis3: 03Belazor * r99 Cryolysis3.lua: Maybe fix item caching for high levels.
13:35.18orionshockanyone here play on Earthen Ring?
13:36.12Tinyboomis cc alpha4 working or is it just my cc that's bugging, no updates in 4-5 days now...
13:37.34orionshockTinyboom: try this, hit the find an addon tab and select get list...
13:39.01Belazorthink services is broken again :p
13:42.37PneumatusTinyboom: not had any updates since thursday-ish on alpha4... did ping Kaelten when i noticed but it stil seems to be stuck
13:42.52Tinyboomkk
13:43.09Tinyboomalready tried get list orionshock:)
13:43.29Repo10cryolysis3: 03Belazor * r100 classes/mage/mage.lua:
13:43.30RepoWorkaround for LPT apparently not being able to parse WoWHead's Talents section (Mage Edition).
13:44.13Tinyboomnow i can test, just have to wait for cryo3 to hit cc
13:46.14Repo10cryolysis3: 03Belazor * r101 classes/mage/mage.lua: Possible fix for Dalaran Intellect.
13:47.03Repo10cryolysis3: 03Belazor 04v3.0-beta12 * r102 : Tagging as v3.0-beta12
13:47.15orionshockTinyboom: have you tried to manually update it? like force CC to update it?
13:47.43Tinyboomgimme a sec to try
13:47.44BelazorTinyboom: http://www.wowace.com/projects/cryolysis3/files/64-v3-0-beta12/
13:48.29Pneumatusif you manually update the cc just thinks the addon is dirty
13:48.38Pneumatusas the addon service doesn't appear to know about the latest versiosn
13:48.49Pneumatuswhich means its probably crashed synching, like it was last weekend
13:48.56Tinyboomforced update in CC, still says beta9 on cryo3 as latest...
13:49.02BelazorD:
13:49.23Belazorit will un-dirty automatically when the files match though so manually update for now
13:49.34Tinyboomwell, if i am to pay for CC it needs some major work soon....
13:49.38Pneumatusyeh, once it starts synching again properly it will un-dirty
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13:49.59Belazorit's alpha though :p
13:50.03Tinyboomaye
13:50.21Belazorkinda annoying that dalaran intellect/brilliance is being gay
13:50.34Tinyboomhuh?
13:50.44Tinyboomhow are they being gay ?:p
13:51.03Belazorthe spell is in Cryo's cache but the button isn't being created
13:51.03Tinyboomexcept they are silly expensive for just graphics updates...
13:51.16Belazorand I can't test as my mage is 70 XD
13:51.28Tinyboomgive me glod and i can test:p my mage is 80 ;)
13:51.46draculaZeksie: could it be that the health text formatting checks is the wrong way round in healer mode 1
13:51.59Zeksieerm.. i'll check it
13:52.19Zeksieyou mean it's doing M instead of K or?
13:52.32draculaI mean... you're checking if hp is smaller than the largeNumDiv... but you're showing hp - Max which gets only larger
13:53.13SunTsuZeksie: ZOMGBuffs tries to buff it though a better fel intellect is up
13:53.19SunTsus/it/int/
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13:53.48draculaso in healer mode you would prefer  -100 / 10k
13:54.02draculawhich means hp is still very large
13:54.13Zeksiequite right.. should check abs()
13:54.58Grummeh i cant get a certain quest-starting-drong
13:54.59Grum*drop
13:57.24draculaoh and healer mode 2 only shows the missing hp right?
13:57.25ZeksieSunTsu: yes, I have to revisit that some more.
13:57.36draculasame applies there
13:58.29SunTsuZeksie: As long as you are aware it's OK for me
13:58.30Zeksiedracula: yes, fixing all that part
13:58.33EthanCentauraiEU realms are being shut down... :(
13:58.36EthanCentaurai~wowalert
13:58.37purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
13:59.00draculayou know, I've been manually patching xperl every update, because my favorite view is missing ;)
13:59.08EthanCentauraibah useless
13:59.15EthanCentauraipurl, you fail!
13:59.15purlACTION slaps ethancentaurai for calling her a failure
13:59.16Zeksieoh?
13:59.39HjalteEthanCentaurai: They are?
13:59.48EthanCentauraiwell, Azjol-Nerub at least
14:00.19HjalteI don't see anything on Dunemaul-EU.
14:01.45draculamy favorite healer mode view:   hbt:SetFormattedText("%d%s |c00FF4040%d|r", Max / largeNumDiv, largeNumTag, hp - Max)
14:02.11draculaand just max hp if target is at full health
14:02.11Grumi prefer something like: x-y where -y is the deficit in red
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14:02.24draculathat's exactly what I linked ;)
14:02.45Grumonly downside is; it should only apply to friendly targets
14:02.53Grumon mobs you need to see a percentage
14:03.19draculawell, percentage is always shown behind the bar
14:03.44SunTsuGreat the portal Sholazar <-> Un'Goro seems passable all the time
14:03.58Grumand that is useful because? ;D
14:04.23njalquicker way to get to aq :P
14:04.32draculaso it would look like this: 1618245 04-1268
14:04.44draculaand at full health: 1618245
14:04.45Grumwithout a space ! ;D
14:05.02SunTsuGrum: Could be faster than the ships, depending on where you are
14:05.04draculapersonal taste ;)
14:05.31draculaZeksie: would it be possible to introduce a healer mode 3 for something like this?
14:06.54GrumSunTsu: humz that would only go for the smallest possible area in northrend i guess
14:07.17Grumif you are close to dalaran you are close to the caverns of time
14:07.28SunTsuGrum: I just forgot that you can't get up from Un'goro, because you can't fly there
14:07.41Grumoh yeah hehe
14:07.44SunTsuSo it's no alternative passage back
14:07.45Grumannoying little thing hehe
14:08.02Grumah well then the kirintor ring comes in handy ;)
14:08.15SunTsuToo expensive for me
14:09.05SunTsuStill having three times riding(300) ahead of me
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14:12.32draculaZeksie: perhaps it's easier to use one helper function that simply performs formatting on the given number
14:12.41Zeksieno
14:12.47Zeksiedefinitely 100% not
14:12.50Zeksiebecause:
14:13.27ZeksieX-Perl specifically has nearly Zero garbage memory increase even in height of combat from carefully using only the SetFormattedText() functions where possible
14:13.48Zeksieyes, it makes the code a little more messy, but overall it's more than worth it
14:14.37draculaok, didn't realize that aspect
14:15.12draculabut yeah, it gets increasingly hard to distinguish all the cases
14:15.25Zeksieyeh, that's why i added some comments ;)
14:15.52draculaa function call adds 'garbage' ?
14:16.33Zeksieno, but a generic function that returns a formatted string for display will. this string is immediately discarded after it's used and then goes to GC later
14:17.08Zeksie25 raid frames, party frames, targets and players, pets etc. all updating many times per sec == a lot..
14:17.47Grumlies
14:17.50draculayeah it adds up... raid frames have their own code though
14:18.13Xinhuani just reduced omen's cpu usage today by about 80% (lol)
14:18.21Grumlol how?
14:18.29Xinhuani put an update throtle on UpdateBars()
14:18.40Xinhuancos when a mob dies, it can fire about 30 events at the same time
14:18.55Xinhuanand runs it 30 times instead of once
14:19.03Grumauc
14:20.46Zeksiedracula yes they do, but they also use SetFormattedText for same reason
14:20.59ZeksieXinhuan: good to know ;)
14:21.14Xinhuanjust need to do some other minor changes before i tag
14:21.47GrumXinhuan: what addon is up for updating after that ? :D
14:21.55draculayeah ok, just raid frames formatting would not necessarily have to use the same helper function
14:22.01Xinhuaneasyserum lol
14:22.13Grumlol what are you changing? :d
14:22.22Xinhuanmore locales
14:22.34Xinhuanthen possibly gemhelper
14:22.43Grumwhat does that do? :D
14:23.25Grumah! ... wtb something which can filter stuff on the craftwindow
14:23.36Xinhuanits just for gems
14:23.37Gruma 1.0/2.0/3.0 switch :
14:23.39Xinhuannon JC can use it too
14:24.35Megaloni love the sorting done by the blizzard ui
14:24.48Megalonhow tbc gems are above all wotlk gems
14:24.51Grumyeah
14:25.02Megalonwhoever thought of that should diaf
14:25.10Megalonbut low temp fire, for slow death
14:25.16Megalon:C
14:25.26Grumwould be nice to have a 'sort by skill' or 'hide preTBC/TBC' toggle
14:25.33EthanCentauraiI like how there are 3 "Other" sections in Inscription :D
14:25.46Megaloni like how i got 5 in engi
14:26.09Megalonif you count 'misc'
14:26.14EthanCentauraiI've never been engi :S
14:26.34Megaloni've got more categories than useful crafts :P
14:26.40doom0ryou don't have a rogue EthanCentaurai?
14:26.44doom0r;x
14:26.53EthanCentaurainever been a rogue either :D
14:30.36sylvanaarengi is 99% misc
14:33.37Megalonif all engi items were like the army knife
14:33.57Megaloneveryone could use, but the special bit requires engi, that would be nice, but...
14:34.24Megaloneven the gloves tinkers are just worse versions of standard enchants :<
14:34.30sylvanaari sill carry every single pre-tbc trinket in my engi bag
14:35.11sylvanaarat least it seems like every one of  them
14:35.23Megaloni have everything i ever crafted
14:35.30Megaloneven my green lens of the eagle
14:35.32Megalon:O
14:35.57sylvanaarloong time ago
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14:36.21Megalonwhen the reflectors were fun :<
14:36.27sylvanaaryes
14:36.41sylvanaarreflecting dealth-coils ftw!
14:36.59Grumwould be nice of most of the items werent trinkets
14:37.06Grumso you could actually use them without gimpage
14:37.18KriLL3or replaces proper enchants...
14:37.32KriLL3who wants a wrist rocket instead of an enchant?
14:38.14Megalonnitro boosts are so lame
14:38.18Megalonwith cooldown :<
14:38.28KriLL3...
14:38.34KriLL3you'd prefer em without?
14:38.45Megalonthey owned without cooldown
14:38.47Grumlower them to 30s orso
14:38.49sylvanaaryeah, thats the other thing looooooooooong cooldowns on all the trinkets
14:39.21Grumshared cooldown on all toys of 30s and normal cooldown of 3 mins
14:39.42Megalonbut at least we got belt enchants
14:39.52Megalonso... useful... belt enchants
14:40.05KriLL3I like the gas tracking one
14:40.18Repo10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r25 Broker_RecZone.lua: Broker_RecZone:
14:40.19Repo- Container zones now have the option to display a different name
14:40.21KriLL3though if I could make my goggles I wouldn't need it...
14:40.43KriLL3<3 you blizz
14:41.00KriLL3GM said he couldn't give em to me even though I was max skill and had the mats
14:41.25sylvanaarhuh
14:42.08KriLL3yeah for some odd reason rogues can make the weakness spectralizers but druids can't atm
14:42.12KriLL3we can only make the caster goggles
14:42.26Megalon'will be fixed'
14:42.27KriLL3veiled suggestion you think?
14:42.37doom0rno
14:42.40doom0rit's pretty damn blunt
14:42.43KriLL3Megalon: yeah, in a couple of months when I'll have better gear than the goggles...
14:42.45sylvanaarprolly just mana check
14:42.51Repo10cryolysis3: 03Belazor * r103 classes/mage/mage.lua: Added two non-mana costing Mage talents to inclusion list.
14:43.12KriLL3would have been so nice to have instead of my S4 helmet
14:43.25Megalonyea the tracking on the belt is actually the best of all tinkers
14:43.30Megalonwhich makes me sad :C
14:43.59KriLL3does the counter mechanical thing work well? haven't tried it
14:44.16Megalonno clue
14:44.40sylvanaarengi is supposed to make you happy - and be fun at parties, so much frivolity
14:45.14KriLL3[Gnomish X-Ray Specs] bugged btw
14:45.57KriLL3if you put em on, and someone you saw goes out of LOS (not seen anymore) and you take me off while not seeing them they're naked when you see them next time, and until you log out/ put em on and off again =P
14:46.24doom0rdalaran's gotta be funny with that
14:46.28KriLL3yeah
14:47.06KriLL3does anyone know if the chat windows gradually break down and finally stop displaying anything at all by themselves or is it chatter that does that?
14:47.43doom0rum, they do
14:47.54KriLL3always fun purging your chat-cache.txt
14:48.11doom0r?
14:48.53KriLL3the file in saved vars that handles your chat configuration
14:49.19cncfanaticsKriLL3: in 4 years of playing I never had that issue
14:49.20doom0ryou don't have the option in chatter to stop that from happening on do you?
14:49.45KriLL3doom0r: you think the is an option in chatter to make it stop breaking your chat?
14:49.56doom0rbreaking?
14:50.08doom0rold text fades out
14:50.11doom0rthat's blizz
14:50.14KriLL3stops displaying stuff in window after window, then no longer shows anything
14:50.17KriLL3no no
14:50.30KriLL3the content of all chat windows doesn't work at all, not that it fades
14:51.02doom0rnever had any such issue
14:51.10doom0rdo you log?
14:51.12KriLL3guess it's chatter then
14:51.15KriLL3yeah
14:51.22doom0rprobably something with that?
14:51.29doom0rchatter causes no such problems for me
14:51.35cncfanaticsremoving cache.txt fixes it ?
14:52.00doom0rif the windows are not taking more, sounds like it would be a bug with log limit?
14:52.14doom0rleast, that would be my most reasonable wild guess
14:53.17doom0rmaybe turn off chat autolog ifyou have that on in chatter?
14:53.45sylvanaari have never hit the limit
14:54.29doom0reither that or mabye a bug with the scrollback length option
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14:55.23doom0rKriLL3: have you changed that ever?
14:55.51KriLL3doom0r: after logging in the chat is blank
14:55.53KriLL3and remains blank
14:56.09sylvanaaronly chatter?
14:56.16KriLL3no idea
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14:56.19doom0r...
14:56.30*** mode/#wowace [+o Funkeh`] by ChanServ
14:56.32doom0rwell, maybe turn it off and make a problem easier to solve?
14:56.32sylvanaardont make me type iot
14:56.49KriLL3if I delete chat-cache.txt it's fixed, for a couple of weeks
14:57.03doom0rneeding to be on the otherr side of a brick wall doesn't mean i should keep leaning into it
14:57.07cncfanaticsI never had that issue, and I do keep my savedvars more then a couple of weeks
14:57.25sylvanaari have had ppl saying prat did it - its some bliz issue imo
14:57.34cncfanaticsKriLL3: check of the issue happens without any chat addons I guess
14:57.48Repo10vanas-ko-s: 03Vana * r286 / (3 files in 2 directories): VanasKoS: removed tablet dependency
14:57.48Grum<PROTECTED>
14:57.51Grumand see if it happens ><
14:58.10doom0rif it's the addon, it should resolve instantly if the log doesn't get hastily deleted
14:58.45sylvanaarwhat log?
15:02.16sylvanaarpastey chatcache
15:02.30doom0ro, that's the options
15:02.35doom0ri've never used logging
15:02.36doom0rno reason
15:02.41doom0rhad to go look
15:03.14Grumits known the default blizz frames are bugging somewhat
15:03.26Grumat least they are with tab-flashing
15:03.51orethguys
15:03.52doom0roh, i so don't miss tab flashing
15:03.54orethRogue browser
15:03.57doom0ri spent too long with that
15:03.58orethwhat's the verdict?
15:04.28sylvanaarguily of being random
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15:04.46Belazorlua> local t = {5, 6}; return t[5]
15:04.47lua_botBelazor: nil
15:05.01Belazorlua> local t = {5, 6}; return t[0]
15:05.02lua_botBelazor: nil
15:05.05Belazorhm
15:05.10Grumlua> local t = {5, 6}; return t[1]
15:05.11lua_botGrum: 5
15:05.15orethyour face is random
15:05.18Belazororite it starts from 1
15:05.44Belazorso that means that defining a table like that is akin to calling table.insert() twice
15:05.45quiescensoff by one~
15:05.54Grumerm?
15:06.11quiescensthat would be the logical assumption
15:06.27Belazorlua> local t={}; table.insert(t, 5); table.insert(t, 6); return t[1]
15:06.27lua_botBelazor: 5
15:06.32Belazorgewd
15:06.33doom0ruh, what would you need rogue browser for?
15:06.38doom0rthat's what a second monitor is for
15:06.39doom0r:P
15:06.42sylvanaartable insert is basically t[#t+1] = val
15:06.44orethi have a 15" crt
15:06.45oreththat's it
15:06.53GrumBelazor: stop making it harder than it is ;)
15:07.11BelazorI'm not, I need to add a dynamic number of entries to a table ;p
15:07.23Belazorbased on another table, in fact
15:07.23Grumuse tinsert :)
15:07.24sylvanaart[#t+1] = val
15:07.30Belazoror that, yeah
15:07.43Grumon what sylv says
15:07.44orethuse an associative array to acquire the data, then after data has been aquired write the table
15:07.48Grumor keep your own counter
15:07.50orethdurrr
15:08.20orethyou should never perform logic during a data aquisition function
15:08.27orethslows everything down
15:08.35Grumerrr
15:08.49orethoh... and one more thing...
15:08.51orethbananas
15:08.57orethi fuckin' love those things
15:09.01Belazor=p
15:09.04Grumright so if you are capturing an event you should just capture all and *then* filter? so you get to see every event twice? ;)
15:09.18sylvanaaryou must be new - i havent met your brand of crazy yet
15:09.24Grumindeed
15:10.12orethwhen you capture an event: you filter, then you obtain the data.
15:10.21BelazorWhat I have is one function that returns a static table in k, v format. I then take the v's out of that and stuff it in a new table, which is used and then destroyed (it's for an item cache list) :p
15:10.23oreththen.. after obtaining the data, you process it
15:10.29Grumand filtering is not logic? ;)
15:10.41oreththere is not data aquisition til after filtering
15:10.55orethotherwise,t hat'd be retarded
15:11.11Grumdepends; you might not need/want to filter
15:11.32orethok, so if you aren't filtering, you obtain the data you need and then get on with it
15:11.39orethseriously... that's like basic programming
15:11.45Grumnowai
15:12.06Belazorlua has i++ right?
15:12.07sylvanaarhold it right there - let me get another donut
15:12.16GrumBelazor: no
15:12.20Belazorbawls
15:12.23Grumwhy?
15:12.29Belazorincrementing table counter ;p
15:12.35Grumi=i+1 ?
15:12.37Belazorused to i++ from PHP ;p
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15:13.01sylvanaart[#t+1] = val
15:13.18Grumhaving a seperate counter is faster than doing #1 :)
15:13.21Grumerrrrrrr #t
15:13.22sylvanaar# is really cheap
15:13.33Grumi=i+1 as well :)
15:13.46Belazorthe reason I opted for a separate counter is because my table name is really, really long
15:13.47Belazor:p
15:13.54Grumwhat is 'crazy' ?
15:14.06sylvanaarhow do you get the length if it is so long?
15:14.16Belazorwat
15:14.41sylvanaardo you a) for k in pairs(t) do i = i + 1 end?
15:14.49orethGrum: for instance if you were reading from a sql database... you would open a reader, send the request, get your results... you would take that dataset and put it into an array , or list... or dictionary.. or whatever, and then close the reader.. then you would go through that dataset and and do whatever logic you needed to on that set of data
15:14.49BelazorI just mean the code becomes less readable if it has longtable[#longtable + 1] instead of just longtable[i]
15:15.01Belazorno the table is always empty at start so no need to grab length at first
15:15.01orethyou would not keep the reader open while manipulating each row
15:15.13quiescenser
15:15.14Grumactually; you would do the manipulation in the database if you can
15:18.25Repo10mendeleev: 03StingerSoft * r240 / (2 files in 2 directories): added ruRU localization
15:18.39sylvanaarstored procedures
15:18.43Grumnah
15:18.47Grumthose are horrible to maintain :)
15:18.55sylvanaarjob security
15:19.02Grumfail interface
15:19.11Grumhehe
15:19.15Grumbut that is the worst kind
15:19.18sylvanaarthey were a goo idea
15:19.28Grumit shoots you in the foot every time you have to work with the,
15:21.02sylvanaaris checking how much work #t is
15:21.15Gruma
15:21.33Repo10cryolysis3: 03Belazor * r104 / (3 files in 3 directories):
15:21.34Repo- The :GetHighestRank() and .cacheList builder functions now no longer need their own duplicated Water/Food/Mana Gem tables.
15:21.55Grummm afaik from fast to slow is: i=i+1; t[i] then t[#t+1] then tinsert(t, ) then table.insert( t )
15:22.05Grumwith i being a local ofc
15:22.11Fisker-Any mod that makes the calendar cooler than an annoying round icon on my minimap? :D
15:22.18sylvanaarill give you i=i+1 is fast
15:22.25Repo10cryolysis3: 03Belazor 04v3.0-beta13 * r105 : Tagging as v3.0-beta13
15:22.34sylvanaarbut where did you get the initial value of i
15:22.45Grumyeah its not always applicable
15:23.47Belazorit was in my case as i would always be 1 (table I needed to count is ALWAYS empty)
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15:25.14BelazorGrum: How come tinsert() is faster than table.insert()?
15:25.30sylvanaar# implemented as a single opcode LEN
15:25.31Grumbecause table.insert is a lookup of the key 'insert' in table :)
15:25.33Xinhuancos u have to lookup table["insert"]
15:25.57BelazorAh
15:26.10Grumhence wow-lua has an alias called tinsert
15:26.26BelazorI wish WoW addons were written in PHP, I wouldn't be quite as newbish :p
15:26.28Grumsaves you that single lookup :p
15:26.30Grumerrrr
15:26.33Grumphp is crap :p
15:26.35cncfanaticsBelazor: EXCUSE ME ?
15:26.39cncfanaticsphp is utter fucking fail
15:26.43cncfanatics~php
15:26.44purlMmmmmmmmhmmmm! Tasty scripts!! http://www.php.net/, or the solution of choice for relaying mysql errors to users
15:26.44BelazorYour respective mothers.
15:26.44Grumeven lua is better than php
15:26.55BelazorScrew you, sirs!
15:26.56cncfanaticsthe solution of choice for relaying mysql errors to users, as purl said
15:27.08BelazorYeah because it's SO hard to fix that
15:27.10Belazor@
15:27.11Belazorthere
15:27.12Belazor:p
15:27.15Grumth best way to say php is crap is by linking: http://php.net/quickref
15:27.18cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
15:27.29BelazorNo U
15:27.31Fisker-slaps cncfanatics around a bit with a large trout
15:27.38Grumtry printing that without running out of paper :)
15:27.43cncfanaticsslaps Fisker- around FOREVER with a SMALL trout
15:28.01Grumwhat did php pick for namespace separation?
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15:28.09Grumwasnt it something like << orso? O.o
15:28.18waallenHas anyone managed to use MrPlow on their Bank inventory with Bagnon?
15:28.19cncfanaticsI think it was >;</,:;
15:28.20krkabackslash i think
15:28.29Grumohyeah \ :p
15:28.33cncfanaticslies ! its >;</,:;
15:28.36krkac:\my\namespace\is\the\ßhit\
15:28.38Grumjust F A I L
15:28.59cncfanaticsc:>;</,:;my>;</,:;namespace>;</,:;is>;</,:;the>;</,:;shit>;</,:; still owns it
15:29.28cncfanaticsBelazor: feel this channel's wrath now
15:29.35BelazorI hate you all.
15:29.39Fisker-why so srs cncfanatics_ >*
15:29.46Fisker-:(
15:29.52sylvanaarhere is the implementation of # http://lua.pastey.net/103884
15:29.53BelazorExcept fisker
15:29.55GrumBelazor: anyone programming in php should try coding in a normal/sane language
15:30.06cncfanaticsslaps Fisker- around FOREVER with a SMALL trout
15:30.26BelazorI wouldn't call Java sane but meh :p
15:30.27Grumsylvanaar: yeah simple enough :)
15:30.35GrumBelazor: i wouldnt either ;)
15:30.40cncfanaticsjava is close to ok
15:30.42cncfanaticsanything  better then php
15:30.52Grumi'd vote for python/perl/ruby
15:31.09BelazorSo "cannot find symbol" for every error they were too stupid to write proper error messages for is better than getting an actual error message?
15:32.27Grumstop talking; if you still favor php there is really something wrong with you :)
15:32.28Grumwell .. wrong ... uneducated i guess ;)
15:33.19cncfanaticsBelazor: cannot find symbol means just that: YOU DUMBASS I CAN'T FIND THE VARIABLE UR USING
15:33.22BelazorNothing wrong with my education tyvm
15:33.38BelazorYeah sure it does, that's the only time it ever gives that error message
15:33.40cncfanaticsI think cannot find symbol is a suitable error message for it
15:33.47cncfanaticswhen does it also give it then ?
15:34.09Grumit doesnt matter
15:34.13cncfanaticsits always for names not being found, 99% of the time they're misspellings :p
15:34.13Grumyou can make fun of any language
15:34.28Grumyou need to cut down 5 tries to print a java stacktrace as well
15:34.42Grumand that is where the factory-factory-factory-factory-factory-factory-factory-factory story comes from :)
15:34.49Grums/tries/trees
15:35.00Belazorlmao
15:35.04cncfanaticstrue that :p
15:35.13cncfanaticsbut at least you come up with valid concerns Grum
15:35.37Grumah well python is good but it has retarded module names
15:35.49Grum'twisted' for sockets? cmon stop make me search for obvious stuff
15:36.11Grumruby wants you to inject methods in base-classes ...
15:36.26Grumand perl needs a sane person coding because there are no rules
15:36.39Belazortbh I prefer a programming language where any optimisations would be in the hands of the language developer, rather than the programmer. You purists may prefer languages where the programmer is responsible for most of the optimisation, but I don't.
15:37.01BelazorAlso I really enjoy PHP's freedom of arrays.
15:37.03GrumBelazor: is that an argument pro php?
15:37.11Grumcmon php's arrays are completely retarded
15:37.20sylvanaaroh and http://lua.pastey.net/103885
15:37.41Grumtry sqrting every item in an array
15:37.41sylvanaarthats table.insert calling the implementation of #
15:38.08BelazorNothing retarded about them. If you want to store an int, you store an int. If you want to also store a string in the same array, sure! In java, that simply does not compute :p
15:38.22GrumBelazor: errr
15:38.35sylvanaarLua is dynamically typed
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15:38.52Grumi have an array with: 1,2,3,4,5,6 now give me that in php and change all the values in that array to their squared version
15:39.00Grumjust code it; its one line
15:39.04Grumor should be
15:39.40Belazor$arr = array(1,2,3,4,5,6); foreach ($arr as $val) { echo sqrt($val); }
15:39.48Grumno .. replace the values in the array
15:39.49Belazorwait you said change
15:39.50Belazorsec
15:40.13Belazor$arr = array(1,2,3,4,5,6); foreach ($arr as $key => $val) { $arr["$key"] = sqrt($val); }
15:40.28Grumhow can you not think that is garbage?
15:40.34Grumfirst of all you change the keys into strings
15:40.42Grumsecond of all; you dont even need the keys
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15:41.29Grumlets do a better one; write a wrapper around printf
15:41.41Grumone which just passes in the arguments into printf
15:42.01Belazorneed to do a lil bit of manual'ing, sec
15:42.11Grumin perl for example that would be: sub xxx { printf @_ }
15:42.47sylvanaarwhat is => operation? functor?
15:42.51Grumbtw you can look stuff up on the 'quickref'
15:43.13Grumin perl => means: 'listoperator (,) and left side is a string'
15:43.32Grumso foo => 'bar' is the same as: 'foo','bar'
15:44.18Grumisnt it funny how long it takes to write a printf wrapper?
15:44.21Grumshould be so uber trivial
15:44.40Belazorphp.net is lagging
15:44.42sylvanaarnot all languages deal with variable argument lists that well
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15:45.18sylvanaaror rather, "are able to express them as tersely"
15:45.20Belazorprintf($string, func_get_args());
15:45.27Grumdoesnt owkr
15:45.34Grumfunc_get_args returns an array
15:45.35Belazoras of 5.2.6 it does
15:45.39Grumyeah LOL
15:45.43Grumnow code it for 4.0
15:45.53Belazorwhy would I code something for EOL'd software
15:46.02sylvanaarjob security
15:46.07Grumseriously
15:46.35Grumthe old way was: call_user_func_array( "printf", func_get_args() )
15:46.50Grumnow they hacked printf to accept an array and auto-expand it
15:46.53Grumwhich is quite funny
15:46.57Grumbecause its not backwards compatible
15:47.26BelazorSo I guess you find php5's expansion of OOP functionality funny too as it's not backwards compatible
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15:47.45Grumi find it hilarious how they can even think of OOP if their codebase is so utterly broken
15:48.26Grumi could point you again to the ~400kb 'quickref' page
15:48.35Grumthere is about 5 different naming standards in there
15:48.44Grumall crammed into the global namespace
15:48.46sylvanaardoesnt sound so quick now
15:48.57Grumit used to be quickish with php3.x
15:49.04Grumthen 4.0 wasnt as bad as well
15:49.07Grumand then it grew
15:49.14Grumits just completely hilarious
15:49.29Grumalso; on some calls you are required to use the '@' prefix
15:49.34BelazorAnd I find it funny how you're taking so much of my time and yours to try to prove a point which I simply couldn't care less about. After I graduate, if I get a job with PHP then your points are especially moot. If I don't, then I'll adhere to the coding practices of whatever language I end up programming as. That doesn't change the fact that with PHP being my first programming language, it's naturally something I prefer due to having fami
15:49.34Belazorliarised myself with it quite well.
15:49.38Grumbecause that is the only way you kill errors :)
15:49.52Belazoror disable error reporting, or use a custom error handler
15:49.56Grumerrr
15:50.00Grumyes always code with E_ALL
15:50.04Grumif you dont you fail as a coder
15:50.15BelazorE_ALL & ~E_NOTICE
15:50.21sylvanaarat one time i thought I liked pascal
15:50.22Grumyes and why the E_NOTICE?
15:50.31Grumbecause of the single reason is just mentioned right? ;)
15:50.57Grumoh is E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE already the default?
15:51.05Belazorno, because you can't assume that E_NOTICE is disabled in php.ini. Notices are largely useless anyways
15:51.28Grumsane defaults says something for a language
15:51.33Grumor the lack of in this case
15:51.41nevcairielthe notices are mostly PHP5 notices about changed syntax
15:51.46Grumespecially since they have had 2 major versions since the problems have been pointed out
15:51.49nevcairielso its disabled by default
15:51.54Grumnevcairiel: also 'i couldnt open this file'
15:51.56nevcairielto not spam the hell out of production systems
15:51.56BelazorAnd using a variable before it's assigned, etc
15:52.09GrumBelazor: that is quite an important notice
15:52.20Grumactually *THE* reason why you should have it on
15:52.23BelazorThat would depend on the variable
15:52.27Grumnope
15:52.31BelazorYep
15:52.33nevcairielThe default php distribution is for production, if you as a developer want to see those, turn it on
15:52.53BelazorWhy would I want to know that I didn't set for instance $i if Im going to set it to 0 regardless?
15:52.54sylvanaarneeds more MS imo
15:53.06DarkAuditanythiing wrong with wowace or curseforge? Even downforeveryoneojustme.com can't connect
15:53.15GrumBelazor: that is not the idea; you have to 'declare' it
15:53.23Grumit prevents you from not spotting typos in variable names
15:53.24sylvanaarMS-PHP, or PHP.NET
15:53.57sylvanaaror Azure Services for MS-PHP.NET LIVE
15:54.01nevcairielGrum: sure, on dev system i run with notices on always, but on production, god beware
15:54.11Grumwhy not on production?
15:54.19Grumwhen i coded php it was always and ever running on E_ALL
15:54.27Pneumatusi wish northrend had somewhere central to show off your mounts :<
15:54.32DarkAuditannnd they're back :p
15:54.33Grumthere is no reason not to (except for some retarded phpquirks)
15:54.46sylvanaarPneumatus nax summon stone
15:54.53nevcairielthere is. some notices are really pointless, and they would spam your screen
15:54.57nevcairielunless you use some error handler
15:55.02Grumthat is a php problem isnt it? :)
15:55.05Pneumatusnaxx summon stone is pretty cramped usually tho
15:55.13nevcairielits a problem of too much verbosity
15:55.17nevcairielyou have that in every language
15:55.21Grumnot really
15:55.24nevcairielsure you do
15:55.27nevcairielgo out the door some time :P
15:55.31sylvanaaryeah, big mounts and compact parking outside
15:55.50nevcairielon maximum verbosity level, nearly every language produces some warnings/notices that can be ignored 100% safely
15:56.22cncfanaticssadly, I have to agree with nevcairiel here
15:56.32Grumeuuh ... not really :D
15:56.45Grumoh well .. guess its in picking the language then
15:57.04Grumalso; nearly every language which does it has ways to code properly so you dont get it
15:57.08Grumexcept php ;)
15:57.25nevcairielyou can avoid all of those in php too
15:57.31nevcairielsoemtimes it just complicated things, though
15:58.16nevcairielfor example you might still use some library of sorts that was written for php 4
15:58.23nevcairielit throws millions of notices when being run on php5
15:58.28nevcairielalthough it works perfectly fine
15:58.52sylvanaarcant you turn of the notices like you can in C
16:00.03nevcairielthere are no per-notice settings, if you mean that
16:00.05sylvanaarnotices ~> c compile warings (is where that came frome)
16:00.13Grumnot really
16:00.14nevcairiellike -Wno-unused-parameters :P
16:00.20Grumphp has notices on files not being able to open etc
16:00.36nevcairieldepends what operation you try
16:00.39Grumand why would you suppress those warnings and not fix the code?
16:00.42nevcairielinclude and require throw a warning
16:00.48Grumthey dont
16:00.51nevcairielthey do
16:00.56Grumnot on normal behaviour
16:00.58sylvanaardonuts
16:01.02Grumif you include a file twice it does
16:01.02nevcairielrequire is even a error and stops the code
16:01.07nevcairielhence "require"
16:01.12Grumbut you shouldnt include a file twice ><
16:01.32sylvanaarwhy not
16:01.48Grumbecause you only need it once?
16:01.51nevcairielyou can always use include_once() and it deals with that for you
16:01.54Grumso include it once and l2code nicely?
16:02.06nevcairielbut soem files actually make sense to be included twice
16:02.08Grumyeah lol they added that 'hack' to get around people complaining not being able to cope with it
16:02.12nevcairielyou can do some smart code with that
16:03.40Grumyou can explain me later how to get 'smart code' by including 1 file twice :)
16:03.47Grumno idea how that would work ^^
16:03.50Grumanyhow; food time :D bbl
16:04.07KriLL3anyone else get that sometimes you're pegged to 3 fps and the ground doesn't show until you relog?
16:04.10nevcairielits included in the same scope as where you call the include
16:04.14Pneumatusyou could be including a file which contains linear code, rather than a function call
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16:05.56KriLL3why do DKs that come along as DPS use their pull/taunt thing?
16:06.06Pneumatusdeath grip isnt a taunt
16:06.10KriLL3it is
16:06.17Pneumatusno it isnt
16:06.28doom0rit commands the enemy to attack them for 3 secs
16:06.31doom0rsome crap like that
16:06.43KriLL3"...drawing the target toward the death knight and forcing the enemy to attack the death knight for 3 sec."
16:06.45doom0rthat is taunting
16:06.45KriLL3aka taunt
16:07.05doom0rmight not modifiy their threat level, but it does give aggro
16:07.09Fisker-hurts nevcairiel
16:07.31Pneumatusthat's basically mocking blow
16:07.36PneumatusDark Command is their taunt
16:07.36KriLL3I have to taunt to get em off
16:08.08SunTsuKriLL3: it's like demoroar, just for a single target which is moved
16:08.28KriLL3demo roar is an aoe taunt...
16:08.29Fisker-HAHAHHAHAHA
16:08.54SunTsuKriLL3: Nope. It only forces attack on you, it does not modify aggro levels
16:09.04KriLL3why do I have 3 fps in the main square of roads around the center of dalaran but 60 the second I enter a building?
16:09.21Pneumatusdalaran is graphics intensive, lots of moving shit on the buildings etc
16:09.28Fisker-http://torrentfreak.com/top-10-most-pirated-games-of-2008-081204/
16:09.33Fisker-"EA doubted our statistics. EA’s Mariam Sughayer said that every BitTorrent download was not a successful copy, and that several downloads didn’t work, were buggy, or contained viruses."
16:09.34KriLL3Pneumatus: errm, it usually doesn't happen
16:09.41KriLL3and I got a GTX 260
16:09.51Fisker-Funny how they don't "doubt" the statistics when they use the same numbers to claim how much piracy is hurting their industry etc. :D
16:09.52Pneumatushow high do you have shadows set?
16:10.05Pneumatusperhaps its due to all the extra shadows
16:10.18KriLL3Pneumatus: from the players?
16:10.27KriLL3not more than usual, and more than I have the problem atm
16:10.32Pneumatuswell, its one possibility
16:11.20KriLL3though if I see the whole area but get zoned into a building it's fine
16:11.28PneumatusFisker-: shame that doesnt show who deleted the game within 20 mins of playing it tho
16:11.39KriLL3if I step one step out it lags again
16:12.27KriLL3doesn't matter what I see, it's what zone I'm in
16:13.05DarkAuditKriLL3, I get that in Grizzly hills and Terrokar too
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16:15.26Pneumatushave you tried updating graphics drivers?
16:15.36KriLL3I'm not a child
16:16.16KriLL3and the fact that it happened to multiple people with different videocards about the same time doesn't really suggest it's my machine
16:18.27SlaymanDark Command is taunt, it raises your aggro on par with the one on #1
16:18.32doom0rflying carpets, how does the hp work?
16:18.42SunTsuSlayman: Yeah, but Death Grip is not
16:18.44doom0rand do any of them have multiple seats?
16:18.52KriLL3nope
16:18.58Slaymanno death grip is just temp aggro
16:19.08DarkAuditWine, XP, Vista, doesn't matter... some zones are lag fests
16:19.11KriLL3just saying, dps shouldn't use it
16:19.27PneumatusDKs that know when to use deathgrip at the right time are tanks best friends, actually
16:19.29KriLL3DarkAudit: I've noticed that in dalaran it happens if I look at the sky
16:19.36Pneumatuspulling casters into melee, etc
16:19.39KriLL3if I look down into the ground outside it doesn't lag
16:19.55KriLL3Pneumatus: we had 2 players with cd/etc
16:20.08DarkAuditkrill hits me when I'm flying through a dense forest like terrokar or Grizzly Hills
16:20.17KriLL3doesn't happen to me
16:20.27KriLL3that sounds like shadow problems
16:20.28SunTsuPneumatus: Yeah, but some are just too lazy to run to the mob, so they pull it to themselves
16:20.41KriLL3my ground vanishes at times, and now it seems the sky does also
16:20.45draculaok, these x-perl party threat indicators are sexy
16:20.54Zeksieheh
16:21.04Fisker-lets all kill Zeksie
16:21.07Pneumatusthat's due to the DKs being retarded though, death grip has its place when dpsing
16:21.09KriLL3SunTsu: meaning I have to taunt to get em off and then compete vs their increased threat after running to the mob to start hitting
16:21.13draculaor should I say 'zeksie'
16:21.38KriLL3said DK insisted on bodypulling half the instance also
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16:22.23DarkAuditI'd rather death grip than body pull... lees chance of getting an "oh crap" mess of adds I didn't account for
16:22.33SunTsuKriLL3: That depends on where you are on aggro list after said three seconds. But it's a really dumb thing to do. But it's just stupid people playing
16:22.35KriLL3he wasn't the tank
16:23.04SunTsuKriLL3: I normally tell healers to let those dumb fucks die
16:23.22KriLL3well he was bulgarian...
16:24.07KriLL3warlocks that makes their felguard charge the split second I faerie fire and then go full out dps are also great fun...
16:24.38KriLL3I have to run ahead to pick up the mob, and I usually want to pull back for a reason...
16:25.39SunTsuKriLL3: Just stand in front of the healers to get the mobs once the DD dies
16:25.53KriLL3good call
16:26.00SunTsuIf somebody wants aggro so badly, let him have it until he learns
16:26.22Slaymanin wotlk, if a DD pulls aggro the tank normaly just sucks
16:26.27KriLL3...
16:26.35KriLL3or the DD didn't let the tank hit the mob, ever.
16:27.00SunTsuSlayman: Yeah, that would be the case if the DD wasn't pulling the mob
16:27.09KriLL3ofc I can get it back by taunting and then slowly getting ahead of a lock that started spamming all their dps 1-2 seconds before I hit it, but it's just annoying
16:27.40KriLL3I like to save my taunt for bad situations etc, not use it at the start of every encounter
16:27.41Slaymanok if he is taunting the mob (even a 3sec temptaunt) he is utterly stupid to die of of it
16:27.41SunTsuSlayman: But some DDs just won't let the tank have a single hit onto the mob or even pull them like DKs with deathgrip
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16:28.10KriLL3Slayman: as said, said locks really like to make their felguard charge, aka the mob isn't near me
16:28.16KriLL3I have to run to IT
16:28.17sylvanaarok everyone - very important: how do you (yourself) target other players in phase 3 malygos? Assume I am aware of the metods of targeting things, i just want to know which method you found worked for you
16:28.48KriLL3I haven't done that encounter, not a clue
16:29.03sylvanaari have to target other players, and i cant target using raidframe clicking
16:29.06Pneumatussylvanaar: i click on their grid vehicle frame :)
16:29.13sylvanaari dont use grid
16:29.39KriLL3yay lag gone after 2 relogs
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16:30.03sylvanaarbasically, its like playing a green drake in occulus
16:30.14KriLL3I'm red
16:30.43sylvanaarexcept more moving targeting more people for casts, and then casting the spells
16:30.58SunTsuZeksie: Is ZOMG missing aspect of dragon hawk at all or just in deDE?
16:31.02KriLL3I hate encounters where your bar is replaced
16:31.13Pneumatussylvanaar: malygos p3 you can generally just stack combos on yourself and spam aoe heals assuming you're healing
16:31.19sylvanaarok
16:31.23sylvanaarthats what i thought
16:31.34Pneumatusyou dont actually need to hot whoever's "tanking"
16:31.41Pneumatusas the aoe bursts are plenty
16:31.48sylvanaarok, so i can 5x reviv then burst
16:31.58Pneumatusthat's exactly what our healers do
16:32.02sylvanaargreat
16:32.20Pneumatuswe all bunch in a blob and rotate around him, so the AoE from every healer hits everyone
16:32.32Pneumatuswith 7ish healers, the AoE is plenty to keep everyone alite
16:32.43sylvanaar7
16:32.59sylvanaarok - well we were doing 10, and using 2 healers
16:33.11Megalonyou don't need dedicated healers in 10man
16:33.17SlaymanBone Shield is magic isn't it?
16:33.19Pneumatusyou might want to have a 3rd person healing in 10man
16:33.29Pneumatuswe usually have 3 healers in 10man and 7/8 in 25man
16:33.47Pneumatusbut you can still just rev yourself then burst
16:33.47Megalonwe had it with everyone dps + selfheal, worked nicely on 10man
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16:34.10Pneumatusthe problem with people healing themselves is you sometimes lose stacks on malygos
16:34.27Pneumatusdps need to focus on stacking the dot as high as possible
16:34.55sylvanaaryeah - i was having targeting issues big time - and i just gave it up last night
16:35.23sylvanaari could hvae made macros i guess
16:35.33Pneumatusalternativly, you could always target malygos and take his ToT
16:35.38sylvanaaryeah
16:35.45Pneumatusbut he changes target pretty often
16:36.10sylvanaarcan you do "MalygosTargetTarget"
16:36.40Pneumatus/target Malygos /assist
16:36.51Pneumatuswill give you his target as your target
16:37.12Megalon/cast [target=targettarget,noharm]
16:37.36Pneumatusi've not tried macroing the abilities of the drake though, as i use the default actionbars
16:37.40sylvanaari can focus him
16:37.42Pneumatuswhich probably makes things even harder :P
16:37.56sylvanaaryou can use the click command
16:38.04sylvanaarclickbutton or whatever
16:38.27sylvanaari used it on beta for exploiting typhoon
16:38.57Pneumatusi got a Blue Drake from malygos last night, it made my day :>
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16:42.53sylvanaar~ /click MultiBarRightButton1
16:43.02sylvanaar~ /click MultiBarRightButton4
16:43.20sylvanaarim going to text on a wyrmrest drake
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16:54.25KriLL3I want a proto drake
16:58.41Fisker-destroys KriLL3
16:59.57Pneumatussylvanaar: you could test on the Aces High drakes
17:00.03Brunersgot a proto drake
17:00.06Pneumatuswhich have the same abilities :)
17:00.10fauxpas```so, i want ouf_ammo to give me the "instant" hp/mana updates that arrived in patch 3.0.2 or whatever .. i know other layouts can do it, but i have no idea how to change ouf_ammo so it does that .. anyone got an idea? :o
17:01.04nevcairielshouldnt the oUF core take care of that?
17:01.38Pneumatusid have thought if any oUF layouts had realtime HP/Mana then they all should do :o
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17:01.58Pneumatusas it must mean something is hooking update rather than reading UNIT_HEALTH fires
17:02.30fauxpas```ouf_dlx does instant updates, ouf_ammo doesnt :(
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17:03.09nevcairieltalk to haste in #WoWUIDev
17:03.14nevcairielhe will know!
17:03.27fauxpas```but is he going to help me? if i were him, i wouldnt, probably :P
17:03.38nevcairieldepends on his mood, i guess
17:03.46Pneumatusi still need to work out why DogTag isnt giving fluid updates for Target, but is for Player
17:04.02nevcairieli think its only supported for player
17:04.04fauxpas```the thing is that i hardly know lua, so helping me would probably be frustrating ;)
17:04.05nevcairielby the game
17:04.21fauxpas```i barely managed to get ouf_ammo to show combopoints for my pet (for malygos)
17:05.28fauxpas```but i'll try as soon as my strands of the ancient is finished ;)
17:05.46Pneumatusnevcairiel: ToT seems to update fluidly though
17:05.49Pneumatusjust not Target
17:06.06nevcairielyou have mana bars on your tot?
17:06.09nevcairielshrugs
17:06.12Pneumatusuhuh
17:09.05ZeksieSunTsu: localization shouldn't matter, it's done from SpellID. i'll add it in now.
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17:16.55Repo10broker_transit: 03StormFX * r28 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Tweak License.txt
17:16.55Repo- Fix @no-lib-strip@
17:16.56Repo- Update ToC to actual version.
17:17.22doom0rthis jumpbot quest is horrible
17:17.32doom0rthe camera system does not allow for things like that
17:17.51Pneumatusyeh, looking up the cliff is a pain
17:18.15durcynit's simple, just bounce it off the side of the mountain, doesn't have to be a flat spot
17:19.34doom0rthe bot isn't a problem
17:19.36Repo10broker_transit: 03StormFX * r29 tags/ (8 files in 8 directories): - Clean up aisle 4.
17:19.36doom0rit's the camera
17:19.43ZeksieSunTsu: as for the Fel Intellegence issue.. that's gonna take some work, because I'm going to have to track who casted it and see if they have it improved etc.. :|
17:20.07Zeksieunless the improved rank is detectable on a player. will check that later
17:20.09Zeksiein raid
17:20.31Brunersfauxpas```: think you need to add self.Health.frequentUpdates = true
17:20.44Brunersfauxpas```: and self.Power.frequentUpdates = true
17:21.04fauxpas```haste already pointed me in the right direction, but thanks ;)
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17:30.56Repo10broker_transit: 03StormFX * r30 / (5 files in 3 directories): - Sigh. Do things right the first time.
17:30.57Repo- AceLibrary and Dewdrop-2.0 must be included as there's no stand-alone versions.
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17:36.35Repo10buttonfacade_apathy: 03StormFX * r52 / (3 files in 1 directory): - Add License.txt
17:36.35Repo- Bump ToC Version.
17:39.15Repo10buttonfacade_caith: 03StormFX * r39 / (3 files in 1 directory): - Add License.txt.
17:39.16Repo- Update ToC.
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17:40.31doom0rThane Illskar yells: You may have defeated my champions, $c. I am something else entirely.
17:40.45KriLL3does anyone know how to make a batch that prints a file?
17:41.46Repo10buttonfacade_entropy: 03StormFX * r40 / (3 files in 1 directory): - Add License.txt.
17:41.46Repo- Bump ToC.
17:41.59Stanzillalike "dir /b > ../../AddOns.txt" ?
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17:42.44Mochitohello
17:42.57Mochitoi wonder, is there a way to turn off the tootips of fubar icons?
17:43.33Mochitoi can make the background transparent, but i can still se the letters
17:44.08Repo10buttonfacade_onyx: 03StormFX * r36 / (3 files in 1 directory): - Add License.txt.
17:44.08Repo- Bump ToC.
17:44.29doom0rcan you give a screenshot for an example?
17:45.11doom0ri don't get how the tooltip relates to the background
17:45.39Repo10buttonfacade_gears: 03StormFX * r34 / (2 files in 1 directory): - ToC tweaks.
17:45.40Mochitoi mean the background OF the tooltip
17:45.48Mochitolike wenn you mouseover durabiltyFu
17:45.55Mochitoa tooltip pops up
17:45.59Mochitoid like to turn it off
17:46.43Mochitoi only figured out how to make the background of the tooltip transparent (thats what i ment)
17:47.29Daemoennevcairiel: ping
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17:49.06doom0ryou can hide in combat, but i don't think there's a global hide for them
17:49.18doom0ri think that defeats the scope
17:49.33doom0rsounds like you just want launchers for stuff
17:50.20doom0rwithout switching to something else
17:50.33doom0ryou might be able to just throw a frame over it, so you're not on top of it
17:50.39doom0rbut then you wouldn't get any clicking
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17:52.58Brunerswhat is a healthy ammount of expertise for a blood dk ?
17:54.48Slaymandoesn't expertise only reduce dodge and parry?
17:55.18nevcairielyes, it does, but so? :)
17:55.29nevcairielYou want dodge reduction, parry you dont have to worry about
17:55.33Slaymannot so important if not in front of mob I would say, hit is much more important
17:55.53Slaymannice to stack once hitcapped
17:55.55Brunerswell after you are hit capped
17:56.16Fisker-slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout
17:56.30Slaymanwowwiki has a list of dodge percentages on mobs
18:01.29Stanzillapastamancer: targeting does not work with the latest grid when everyone is on a vehicle
18:02.53doom0rMochito: the plugin lib handles the hiding in combat, so you'd have to modify the fubarplugin lib to make it always hide if the option is checked
18:03.51pastamancerStanzilla: how so?
18:03.56StanzillaI dunno
18:04.00StanzillaI click, nothing happens
18:04.19doom0rwhich really isn't much tbh, just change InCombatLockdown() to true and hacktastic hard lock toggle
18:04.47Daemoennevcairiel: you ever heard of anyone having issues with buttonstating with ctrl in bt4?
18:04.51pastamancerare you clicking on the pets or the plaers?
18:04.57Stanzillaplayers
18:05.00doom0rMochito: you'd just have to make sure your version is always loaded, or edit all versions
18:05.06pastamancerok, then that's expected
18:05.12Stanzillaah ok
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18:15.13Mochitok ive already finished my new ui
18:15.32Mochitoany idea what i could do with the mail minimap button?
18:15.40Mochitois there a way to display it in fubar or smthn?
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18:16.00Mochito(plus a little question: my eventcalendar button is missing? oô)
18:16.13doom0rday/night
18:16.21doom0rit took that slot
18:16.24doom0rturn that on
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18:17.11Mochitowhere?
18:17.23doom0rwhat are you using for a minimap?
18:17.26Mochitosimple
18:17.44Mochitoi turned calendar on, still doesnt show up oô
18:17.47Daemoenwhats really the difference between smm and chinchilla when you get down to it?
18:17.56Daemoenseems like they are both about the same
18:18.22doom0rMochito: got anything else like a clock plugin for fubar?
18:18.31Mochitoyepp clockfu
18:18.34doom0rsome of those have options to hide the day/night
18:18.49Mochitoahhh
18:18.54Mochitok thank you very much
18:18.57SunTsuZeksie: Thanks
18:19.32Mochitonow im nearly done...just have to do something about that ugly minimap buttons...
18:21.42MochitoGENTLEMAN! Ideas? :D
18:21.59doom0rwell, what's left, just mail?
18:22.18Mochitowell, id say every blizzard-minimapbutton
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18:22.23doom0rew
18:22.25Mochitolike mail, lfg etc
18:22.37Mochitono addon buttons though
18:22.53doom0ronly thing that ever displays on mine is mail
18:23.02Mochitoi tried detachedminimapbuttons, but it bugs when i lock my minimap
18:23.09doom0ri have calendar in CAFu
18:23.16EthanCentauraiI'd use Visor2 to hide/move the buttons or switch from SMM to Chinchilla
18:23.19doom0ri don't use the lfg button
18:23.22doom0rno n eed
18:23.24doom0rneed*
18:23.47doom0ror MBB if you need them super rarely
18:23.57doom0rwhich has a fubar plugin too :P
18:24.12trhKaelten: there?
18:24.20Mochitowell, visor does still work?
18:24.29EthanCentauraiafaik it does
18:24.35doom0rit's really up to you Mochito, there's options for most things, plenty of ways to do it
18:24.40Mochitoand hte problem with mbb is that the fubar plugin diesnt seem to work with fubar 3.5
18:24.48doom0rworks for me
18:24.53Mochito
18:24.59doom0rupdated on wowi a lil while back
18:25.25doom0ralthough, i don't need it anymore
18:25.34doom0rwas using it for recipe radar, and recipe book
18:25.39EthanCentauraihas an idea
18:25.45doom0rwhich the first has a fubar plugin now, and the second i don't use the button
18:25.46Mochitoplus mbb doesnt catch the calendar
18:25.47Mochito
18:25.54doom0rCAFu
18:25.57Mochitoahh
18:25.59Mochitoright
18:26.17EthanCentaurai<PROTECTED>
18:26.19Mochitoil be back in some minutes, gotta try what your saying
18:26.20doom0rdoesn't display anything for the text, but provides click acces to it
18:26.24doom0r^
18:26.26doom0ror that
18:26.33doom0ror MicroMenuFu
18:26.37doom0retc
18:27.02doom0rtake that last one back
18:27.04doom0rdoesn't have that
18:28.08EthanCentauraibah Git is still down :(
18:28.22doom0rnot Gittin er done?
18:28.29doom0rruns
18:28.41EthanCentauraidoesn't get it
18:28.54doom0rgit er done
18:29.19EthanCentauraistill doesn't get it
18:29.32doom0rhttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=git+er+done
18:29.35EthanCentauraidoesn't get out much
18:30.12Fisker-haha wtf
18:30.26Mochitohm as i said mbfFU doesnt work
18:30.32doom0rsets Fisker-'s shoe on fire
18:30.38Mochitosays i needs fubar 3.0, well i use 3.5
18:30.45Fisker-That's just great
18:30.51Fisker-we were in heroic naxx 10 man
18:30.55Fisker-4 wipes before we realized :D
18:31.03doom0rMochito: mbf or mbb
18:31.28doom0rmbb works, mbf i haven't touched in ages
18:31.40doom0rohhhhh
18:31.45EthanCentauraiorders a pizza
18:31.48doom0rMochito: yes, the author was dense about that
18:31.58doom0rthey released it with a required lib not embedded
18:32.11doom0ri remember now
18:32.11Mochitoits mbf
18:32.15cncfanaticsFisker-: fail
18:32.16cncfanaticsFAIL
18:32.18cncfanaticsFAIL
18:32.22Mochitodid you say mbb?
18:32.27Mochitothan i got the wrong addon ^^
18:33.48Fisker-:( cncfanatics :(
18:34.25doom0rMochito: no, i did go back to MBF
18:34.27cncfanaticsFisker-: who's your raid leader ?
18:34.46Fisker-why?
18:34.51cncfanaticsjust tell me his name will ya
18:35.12Fisker-Aggrovated
18:35.29cncfanatics~epic fail Aggrovated
18:35.30purlAggrovated, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Aggrovated, you are that epic failure.
18:35.31doom0rMochito: you need to drop fubarplugin-3.0 in there
18:35.32cncfanaticsplease relay this to him for me
18:35.35doom0rand fix the toc
18:35.37cncfanaticsPLEASE paste it in raid chat
18:35.48Fisker-never
18:36.13cncfanaticsdo it !
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18:40.55alcarasAny suggestions on a mod that blocks 'XX passed on' and 'YY passed on' without disabling Detailed Loot Information? That way mods like teksLoot or GroupLoot will still be able to see who rolled on what and display it in their interface, but without me being spammed to tears...
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18:47.24Repo- Tweaking the configuration pages
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18:56.00Repo- Ticket 4 fix
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18:58.09Repo- The Frozen Sea is properly returned as a flying zone
18:59.32Xinhuanbet he left out "The North Sea"
18:59.46Repo10baldrick: 03LordFarlander * r110 / (2 files in 2 directories): Baldrick:
18:59.46Repo- Even more fixes
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19:04.27RepoAckis: http://www.wowace.com/projects/easyserum/. EasySerum. Game: WoW. Xinhuan (Manager/Author). Updated: 5 days ago. Tickets: 1/1
19:05.06NeoTronI wish @project would post a short blurb about what the project is
19:05.44Xinhuanyour ticket seems redundant ackis
19:05.48Xinhuansince ppl will figure that oen out
19:06.00Xinhuan(dont' want to localize more stuff lol)
19:06.24Ackisyou underestimate the power of the idiot
19:06.44Ackisit'd probably just be one localization string "Go right now"
19:06.53Xinhuannah, declined ;p
19:07.06Ackis(but I just wanted the link for the gf to install it)
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19:08.00Ackisso I'm trying out some more broker addons... still not seeing the benefit of broker over fubar
19:08.32Xinhuanmain benefit is no Rock, less cpu/memory usage
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19:08.58Xinhuanwhich comes at the cost of less customization
19:11.40Pneumatuslol what
19:11.52Pneumatusif KT MCs a holy priest he puts Guardian Spirit on KT
19:12.12Xinhuanthen you wait for guardian spirit to wear off
19:12.18Xinhuaninstead of triggering it :)
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19:17.38Ackisjust dispell it?
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19:20.42Repo- ScanTalent inside OnEnable
19:20.42Repo- Fix nil index error if the user reloaded their UI while HFB was active, then activated it again.
19:21.43Pneumatuswell it wasnt really an issue, it was more the fact he blew one of my only cooldowns
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19:30.52Repo* Added new sorting methods level, guild
19:30.53Repo* Next up: more sorting methods, pull-out drawer
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19:34.02Repo- Incorporated changes from tayedaen
19:34.03Repo- Better way of splitting up large guild lists
19:34.04Repo- Remembering last X recipients
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19:35.30Repo- Incorporated changes from tayedaen
19:35.31Repo- Better way of splitting up large guild lists
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19:48.40Repo- fixed menu to go 4 levels for picking bosses, much nicer
19:48.41Repo- cleaned up drop-down menus
19:48.43Repo- added first pass bosses for WotLK
19:48.47Repo- added missing world bosses first pass
19:49.14Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.1.22 * r93 : Tagging as 2.1.22
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20:03.19EthanCentauraican someone remove this please? http://www.wowace.com/projects/minimap-button-facade/
20:03.27EthanCentauraiI got a bit hasty, it won't work
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20:03.58EthanCentauraigoes to see how Skinner does it
20:06.04Parnicethancentaurai: figure out how button facade masks textures to only display portions of them :)
20:06.30EthanCentauraiwhat do you think I'm trying to do? :P
20:06.40Parnichehe
20:06.59Parnici need to masks icehud's cooldowns to be circular and button facade has the answer
20:07.05Parnics/masks/mask/
20:08.28EthanCentauraimy god Skinner's a pile of bloated crap
20:08.41Matrix110Ive noticed that already 1 year ago
20:08.41Matrix110:D
20:08.48Matrix110(never even used it)
20:09.22Matrix110Skinner includes like a Gazillion file for every goddamn frame you could imagine and for every AddOn that might exist at any point
20:10.51AckisEthanCentaurai: removed
20:11.25EthanCentauraicheers Ackis, I'll try again when I get the damn thing to work :P
20:11.43EthanCentauraipokes around inside FacadeBuffs' innards
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20:11.55Ackisheh
20:13.33EthanCentauraithe problem is that some of the buttons don't have "GetNormalTexture" or "SetTexCoords" methods :/
20:14.17EthanCentauraiaww I thought this was going to be simple :X
20:14.55EthanCentauraigoes off to make today's 50th cup of coffee
20:18.22evlanyway to turn on the readycheck sound in wotlk?
20:18.24evlI miss it :P
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20:21.35ulicoh they took it out, didn't even notice.
20:25.08Mochitois there a mail notification addon for the fubar?
20:25.23Brunersevl: i still got sound
20:25.29EthanCentauraiMailFu :)
20:25.41AckisEvl: alt-tabber
20:25.43evlI don't have readycheck :(
20:25.47evlofc I alt tab
20:25.50evlthere's porn out there
20:25.52evlwaiting for wipe breaks
20:26.05Brunersthe enable sound in background..
20:26.10Matrix110doesnt work
20:26.14Matrix110thats the main problem :P
20:26.19Brunersworks here
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20:26.35Matrix110You dont even hear it when you are ingame currently for every Readycheck besides the first one
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20:33.00BrunersMatrix110: this last ready check got to have been nr 10 so far
20:33.26Matrix110Bruners I can just say what happens to everyone in my guild :P
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20:34.18Matrix110and its not a AddOn problem as people without AddOns get it aswell
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20:42.40ckknightnow that I finished Fallout, I don't have a fun game to play
20:42.43ckknightwhat should I play?
20:43.20asmodaickknight: I'm having fun with Little Big Planet on my PS3
20:43.24asmodaias well as some Left 4 Dead
20:43.34Pneumatusi heard WoW is pretty fun
20:43.36ckknightI only have my computer
20:43.39ckknightno PS3 yet
20:43.48ckknightPneumatus: yea, but I've found it to be an unfulfilling timesink
20:43.50doom0rdreamfall
20:44.06asmodaickknight: I found my PS3 to be quite nice. Bought it yesterday
20:44.39ckknightsee, I'd get a console, but the whole curse points thing is happening, so I'd rather get a free one through there
20:44.43ckknightwhich puts me in limbo
20:44.49asmodaiheh
20:46.25trhckknight: btw: where do we complain about strange search behaviour on curse? =)
20:46.44ckknightfind the nearest well
20:46.47ckknightlook down it
20:46.50ckknightshout
20:46.55asmodaiMaybe it echoes.
20:46.58trhhehe
20:47.45doom0rwondered what happened to his "How to Get the Fastest Response Possible"
20:48.19ckknighttrh: I'll tell the guy working on it that it's still fucked up
20:48.28ckknighttomorrow, though
20:48.45Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1189 / (2 files in 2 directories):
20:48.46RepoMake vendor, trainer, etc info be based off of babble boss, etc
20:49.04trhckknight: the problem is, if i search for "kos" i get several results, but my addon ("vanaskos") isn't in the list (even though it draws more traffic than all the others listed)
20:49.14ckknightick
20:49.16trhckknight: if i search for "ko-s" it gets found
20:49.18trhpretty strange
20:49.54ulicsearching short names maybe?
20:50.20doom0rit searches both, just literally
20:50.21ckknightprobably searching short names and fucking up on titles somehow
20:50.51doom0rleast from what it seems
20:51.14trhone thing is that the repository url is with a - in it
20:51.41trhwhere can i look if i'm searching short names?
20:52.02trhif that even is a search option ;)
20:52.07doom0rproject pages search is a lil more sane
20:53.41trhit's buggy in every search i could find on curse ;)
20:53.57doom0rcf and wowace
20:54.02doom0rthose project pages
20:54.30trhon wowace it's fine
20:55.33Repo10libbabble-boss-3-0: 037destiny * r145 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: koKR Update
20:55.58ckknightoh yea, now that I restructured the DB, I can improve wowace's search
20:56.07ckknightwait, no, I still need to do one more thing
20:56.29ckknighttrh: it's good to note that wowace/cf is very separate from curse
20:57.10Repo10questagent: 03Allara * r29 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Hard embedded AceLibrary, Dewdrop and Tablet
20:57.25ckknightum, wtf?
20:57.35Xinhuanerr wut
20:57.58Repo10questagent: 03Allara 04r29-release * r30 : Tagging as r29-release
20:59.14Fisker-die in hell sapphiron
20:59.23Grumhe will
20:59.26Fisker-like what, 179 degrees for cleave, and 179 degrees for tailwhip
20:59.28Fisker-fuck him
20:59.34Pneumatusi wish the wowace search box wouldnt switch between forum search and site search
20:59.43Gruml2position failsker!
21:00.20Fisker-oh that's easy
21:00.27Pneumatusand i wish the wowace search would also return cf projects
21:00.31Repo10questagent: 03Allara * r31 / (7 files in 4 directories): - Really embed this time
21:00.43Pneumatusand i wish that the curse search worked the same as the cf/wowace searches
21:00.47Repo10questagent: 03Allara 04r31-release * r32 : Tagging as r31-release
21:03.53ckknightPneumatus: file a ticket
21:03.58Slaymanthere is no function for disbanding a Raid is there?
21:03.58ckknightwe might do that.
21:05.08Xinhuanck, how would u improve wowace's search?
21:06.20trhckknight: thanks for reporting it to the guy responsible tomorrow :)
21:06.42Pneumatusanyone know if any of the authors of Incubator are actually active?
21:06.44doom0rinclude description search
21:06.45ckknightXinhuan: having it search on description, adding fulltext indexes
21:07.01Repo10questagent: 03Allara * r33 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Fix pkgmeta
21:07.07doom0rthen you'd just have to get people to not write such horribly fail descriptions
21:07.09Pneumatusor if there's an alternative trash mob respawn timer addon that's been updated with LK trash
21:07.11XinhuanwouldN't that be very slow
21:07.13ckknightcurrently the project description is the text of its 'main' page
21:07.15Repo10questagent: 03Allara 04r33-release * r34 : Tagging as r33-release
21:07.19ckknightso it's a weird query
21:07.20doom0r*cough* one-liners *couhg*
21:07.23doom0rglares
21:07.38ckknightbut PitBull bites your face off...
21:07.45Pneumatussomeone needs to l2checkalphas before they tag each commit :o
21:08.29Xinhuanthe fact that he is hardembedding AceLibrary, Dewdrop and Tablet is dumb
21:09.10Pneumatusbump it over to cf tbh :P
21:09.36ckknightif you hard embed a library, we can't track it properly, so when the curse points thing starts, the libraries wouldn't receive credit
21:09.43ckknightalso, it's bad karma
21:10.33Xinhuanthe onyl library i've hard embedded so far, is LDB
21:10.46Xinhuanjust cos its special
21:12.11Xinhuanand i mean that in a sarcastic way
21:12.24Grumespecially fail?
21:12.31Grumor especially good ? ;P
21:12.41Xinhuanespecially fail
21:12.49Grumhow to do it different?
21:13.05trhckknight: oh. btw. is there a reason why babble-race wasn't yet converted to libstub?
21:13.07Xinhuanauthor doesn't want it to be externaled
21:13.16Xinhuanand therefore tells everyone to hardembed it
21:13.25Xinhuanjust to be special
21:13.38Grumany valid coding reason?
21:13.44Xinhuannone
21:13.50Grumfix it and slap the author?
21:13.52Xinhuanits tekkub, reason enough
21:14.11Grumthen fork it? ;)
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21:15.00Xinhuandoesn't have a GPL or similar liscense i think
21:15.09Xinhuandidn't really go check
21:15.16Brunersi think tekkub is anti curse :P
21:15.44Matrix110I like having 30 times Ace2 and Ace3 and whatnot delaying my loading times by around 1minute alot
21:15.52ckknightyea, he is
21:15.58ckknightMatrix110: hooray for nolib packages
21:16.11Matrix110ckknight no shit :P
21:16.13ckknighttrh: dunno
21:16.35Xinhuanwell the philosophy behind it is that the library is so small it doesn't matter if you embed 50 copies of it in 50 addons
21:16.40Xinhuanand its not changing
21:16.49Grumsame as libstub
21:16.59Xinhuanor CBH
21:17.15GrumCBH?
21:17.19Matrix110Callbackhandler
21:17.22Xinhuancallbackhandler
21:17.22Grumyeah
21:17.26Grumbut those are kinda erm .. needed?
21:17.32Grumseems LDB is just optional
21:17.34Grumor it should be
21:17.52ckknightLibStub and CBH are libraries for libraries
21:17.54ckknightbasically
21:17.58ckknightthat's why they're "special"
21:18.06Grumyeah
21:18.11Grumthis case just seems to be 'lazy'
21:18.30Xinhuani could say that aceevent, for eg, could be a library for libraries as well
21:18.35Xinhuandefinition is vague
21:18.46Brunershaha, on the ldb wiki none of the addons listed are linked to curse :P
21:19.05Grumurl?
21:19.10Brunershttp://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/wikis/addons-using-ldb
21:19.11trhckknight: feel free to co svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/vanas-ko-s/mainline/trunk/NewLibs/Babble-Race-3.0 and commit it into the appropriate trunk (co-author made it)
21:19.31ckknighttrh: each babble lib is its own project.
21:19.33evlThe readycheck no sound is a big
21:19.34evlbug*
21:19.39ckknightfeel free to do it yourself
21:19.43ckknightI'll approve it
21:19.45trhckknight: ok :)
21:19.49evl3039183/FrameXML/ReadyCheck.lua it checks if ( not ReadyCheckListenerFrame:IsShown() ) then
21:19.57evlwhen it should be doing IsVisible()
21:20.09Grumreport it for the next minor version
21:20.21Matrix110evl order tickets Norway->Paris and slap them in the face
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21:30.42Pneumatusbleh, wowhead should catalog fish schools like wowdb does
21:32.10doom0rwowhead also shouldn't have let beta stay in with live
21:32.17Xinhuancos wowdb accepted the code we sent in for recording fish nodes, wowhead didn't ;p
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21:32.53Pneumatusswitch the gathermate scraper to wowdb tbh :P
21:33.15Xinhuanalready been wowdb for 6 months
21:35.08Ackiswowdb doesn't get fish schools
21:35.41Pneumatushttp://www.wowdb.com/object.aspx?id=192052
21:35.43Pneumatusi beg to differ.
21:35.43Xinhuanwe did submit it in though
21:35.49XinhuanAckis, there's an issue with the EPL map
21:35.52Xinhuanon wowdb
21:36.03Xinhuankagaro may have contacted u about it
21:36.11Ackisno he didn't
21:36.17Ackishaven't talked to him for a while
21:36.17Xinhuanok now i will
21:36.19Pneumatusthey are flagged as "locked chests" but they are there :o
21:36.42XinhuanAckis, consider this link
21:36.42Xinhuanhttp://www.wowdb.com/object.aspx?id=175404
21:36.49Xinhuanand hit the link for the EPL map
21:36.58Xinhuanbasically a list of Rich thorium veins in EPL
21:37.01Xinhuansee the problem?
21:37.28AckisI'm not seeing anything wrong
21:37.30Xinhuanthe zone map size changed in patch 3.0, and the nodes got duplicated/scaled
21:37.39Xinhuanevery node is represented twice on that map
21:37.48Xinhuanone is the real node, one is a fake node
21:37.52Ackisahh
21:37.57Xinhuansee the 5 nodes on corrin's crossing?
21:38.09Xinhuanand the other 5 northwest of that
21:38.19Ackisaye
21:38.25Xinhuanand also that bunch of 10 nodes near plaguewood
21:38.33Xinhuanits also 5 nodes duplicated
21:38.41Xinhuanall nodes in EPL, RTV is just an example here, are affected
21:38.55Xinhuanand so its screwing up gathermate a bit ;p
21:38.55Ackiswould nuking the data fix it?
21:39.07Xinhuanunsure
21:39.21Xinhuanif ppl are using the old dataminer and submitting old coords
21:39.28Xinhuanit wouldn't really fix it
21:39.39Brunersinstalls old dataminer
21:40.02doom0rversion check string?
21:40.24Repo10big-brother: 03Silberbuechse * r174 / (5 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 8 lines)
21:40.24RepoBigBrother.lua
21:40.25Repo- add new Flasks and Elixiers
21:40.28Repo- add Tricks of the trade
21:40.30Xinhuanin any case, i've now reported the issue, we'll expect some sort of fix on wowdb's side soon ;p
21:40.32RepoBuffWindow.lua
21:40.43Ackishah
21:40.44Ackis:P
21:40.55AckisI submitted a patch taht hasn't gone through yet
21:41.23Xinhuanwho "owns" wowdb?
21:41.34Ackisadamar is in charge
21:41.36Xinhuanas in, the guy who approves your patches
21:41.53EthanCentauraiany idea as to why |Hplayer strings are showing up literally and not as player links? :S
21:41.58Ackisaye
21:42.08XinhuanEthanCentaurai: faulty chat addon
21:42.22Xinhuanusually due to bad gsubs
21:42.29EthanCentauraiblames Fisker-
21:42.48Xinhuanespecially bad ones that try to do funny things like alt-names, name coloring, name shortenning, etc
21:43.06Xinhuanespecially achievement links, since they are linked to players as well
21:43.17EthanCentauraiswitches the blame to himself
21:43.23Xinhuanwith an embedded player link inside
21:43.24Xinhuan;p
21:43.52EthanCentauraiI guess trying to gsub player links into Prat_SignOn messages doesn't work ;)
21:44.40EthanCentauraithen again, sylvanaar isn't making things easy for me :/
21:45.09EthanCentauraigives up and reverts his changes to SignOn
21:46.06DarkAuditargh... What did Vana do this time? I've got a big window I can't close, and bugsack blames VanasKoS
21:46.19trhDarkAudit: don't use alphas =)
21:46.40DarkAudittrh it's not an alpha
21:46.47trhDarkAudit: uh?
21:46.52trhDarkAudit: what does bugsack say?
21:47.28DarkAudit[2008/12/07 16:43:26-135-x4]: VanasKoS-3.19-$Rev: 285 $\modules\PvPStats.lua:287: attempt to index field 'frame' (a nil value)
21:47.29DarkAuditVanasKoS-3.19-$Rev: 285 $\modules\PvPStats.lua:124: in function <Interface\AddOns\VanasKoS\modules\PvPStats.lua:123>
21:49.47Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r481 / (13 files in 6 directories): - Various minor clean up
21:49.48Repo- Added substance for Novos the Summoner and Slad'ran
21:49.49Repo- Disable The Violet Hold module after Cyanigosa dies
21:50.22EthanCentauraickknight: ping
21:50.37trhDarkAudit: sounds like there has been some problem before
21:50.38ckknightEthanCentaurai: pung
21:50.55trhDarkAudit: if you don't need the pvp stats urgently, just delete pvpstats.lua
21:51.00Xinhuanadded "substance" lol
21:51.03Xinhuannice word
21:51.08ulichehe
21:51.08EthanCentauraickknight: I keep getting this error when pushing, pulling or cloning Git repos http://ace.pastey.net/103876
21:51.19EthanCentauraiam I borking things?
21:51.19Xinhuanwhat did u do
21:51.21Xinhuanwith those bosses
21:51.24ckknightnah, it's my bad
21:51.26ckknightlemme fix
21:51.33Xinhuanjust "engaged" and "win wav file"/
21:51.34Xinhuan?
21:51.54ulicbefore they were pretty much only BossDeath messages, now they actually have stuff for spells or what not.
21:52.10ulicXinhuan: exactly
21:52.22Xinhuanthey weren't very hard anyway hehe
21:52.33Xinhuan<3 my red protodrake :)
21:52.34ckknightEthanCentaurai: try now
21:52.52DarkAudittrh, looks like there's some operator error at work here too... been using JWU 2.4 still, and it's updated VanasKoS several times in the last couple of weeks... the "Download" link links to a file from Nov 15th
21:53.48EthanCentauraickknight: it now tells me I don't have access permission
21:54.00ckknightcause you're a bad man, my guess
21:54.06ckknightwhat are you trying to access?
21:54.08trhDarkAudit: get http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/vanas-ko-s/download/310401.aspx
21:54.18EthanCentauraigit@git.wowace.com:wow/prat_signon/mainline.git
21:54.20trhDarkAudit: and i'll have a new version out in 1-2 weeks
21:54.30trhDarkAudit: will be ace3 and awesome ;)
21:55.03Xinhuannew version of vanoskos?
21:55.08DarkAudittrh, cool... guildies are liking it, especially since the old epeen addon disappeared
21:55.30Xinhuani remember that bring the addon that broke recount because it failed to embed libgraph properly
21:55.39trhDarkAudit: esp. the new sharing will be alot easier ;)
21:56.16trhXinhuan: i blame whoever thought of separating graphlib from graphtextures =)
21:56.26ckknightEthanCentaurai: hrm...
21:56.49Xinhuanluckily graph2.0 shouldn't have that issue
21:57.10trhXinhuan: luckily :)
21:57.20ckknightEthanCentaurai: mind helping test something?
21:57.23trhXinhuan: quite a nice hack in it to get the path =)
21:57.38Xinhuana very silly hack
21:58.26trh"Please note that your project will not syndicate until " <- what does syndicate mean in that context?
21:58.35trh(project approval page wowace)
21:58.48ckknighttrh: syndicate to curse
21:58.54trhckknight: ah
21:58.55Grum'synced' :p
21:59.20trhckknight: synced or "transferred to other sites" would be better understandable for foreigners ;)
21:59.39Xinhuansyndicate is a fairly standard word though
21:59.42Grumits not
21:59.52trhwell.. i understood the word itself
21:59.58trhbut it didn't made much sense
22:00.14Xinhuan~dict syndicate
22:00.19trhif you know that "curse + wowace + cf" claim to be a syndicate it'd be ok
22:01.04trhthe german word for syndicate (syndikat) is often used for shady/criminal organisations
22:01.12Xinhuanmost comic strip authors prefer syndication nowadays
22:01.42Xinhuanas it means they don't have to find newspapers to print their comics anymore, and just let the syndication company do it
22:02.07trhguess in the us the word doesn't have that stigma
22:04.00Xinhuansyndication does mean you lose some rights though, mainly distribution rights, and sometimes even copyright itself
22:04.14doom0rtrh: it's because of the meaning networked
22:04.19doom0rsyndicate is like the mob
22:04.23doom0ra networked group
22:04.34doom0rthere is no stigma
22:04.40Xinhuantry looking at say UNIVERSAL PRESS SYNDICATE
22:04.49Xinhuanthey handle about 30 different comic strips
22:04.57Xinhuanincluding garfield
22:05.17trhdoom0r: yep.. the german word has that stigma because syndicates usually were criminal (back in the days) so the media uses it to describe drug-cartels and so on =)
22:05.31doom0rsame thing here
22:05.43doom0rbut syndication does not mean syndicate
22:06.15trhah ok =)
22:06.30doom0rit's a clear definition in english
22:06.42doom0rs/definition/distinction
22:06.44doom0rs/definition/distinction/
22:06.47doom0rlaksdjf
22:07.00trhthat'd be "syndikation" in german (and not a "syndikat" ;)
22:07.34doom0rsyndicate is a homonymn
22:07.51doom0rthere's two _different_ words that are both syndicate
22:08.00doom0rone's a noun, one's a verb
22:08.14Codayus_That's similar to english; "syndicate" is used to describe criminal organizations, but "syndication" has no negative connotations.
22:08.27exor674... are we explaining english in here?
22:08.35Codayus_Actually, I believe it's one word, not two...
22:08.39trhgot it =)
22:08.56trhit's pretty similar to german, but translated it wrong =)
22:09.14doom0rperhaps Codayus_, but to make the point
22:10.07trhhehe.. btw: did you know that germans say "Beamer" to describe a projector? :)
22:11.15doom0rbeam is a word in english
22:11.19Repo10accomplishment: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.0.4-1-g314fdab Accomplishment.toc: [+1 commit] TOC to the hand, Interface ain't listening.
22:11.29doom0rand means nothing to do with the slang :)
22:11.46doom0r*has
22:11.50trhdoom0r: but it's used for a bmw in america, isn't it?
22:11.57doom0ryes
22:12.01doom0rbeamer is
22:12.01Codayus_Heh, that's nothing.  I've heard people call them "viewgraphs".
22:12.17doom0rbut a beam is a stream of light
22:12.30trhdoom0r: yep.. that's why it's called beamer in germany ;)
22:12.30doom0rthere is no "beamer"
22:12.51trhdoom0r: germans love to take english words, and create new words ;)
22:12.57doom0rjust the slang for the airplane engine manufacturer
22:13.01doom0r;x
22:14.54Xinhuangermans also like to use longwordsthatlooklikethis and make localized strings look idiotic in configs
22:15.04trhXinhuan: hehe
22:15.13trhXinhuan: Donaudampfschifffahrt ;)
22:15.41StanzillaXinhuan: word!
22:15.49doom0rseriously, wtf is that, a stutter?
22:15.51doom0rfff?
22:16.07trhXinhuan: it's because you can basically combine any german words to a new one ;)
22:16.15Stanzillaschiff and fahrt
22:16.27trhdoom0r: no, it's combined Donau Dampfschiff fahrt
22:16.34Xinhuanpretty retarded if you ask me!
22:16.43Xinhuanlets make anewword
22:17.20trhbut we can do better: Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän ;)
22:17.28trhoh.. missed a f ;)
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22:18.01Xinhuan/facepalm
22:18.54trhhehe.. and the longest word in a law is:
22:19.02trhRindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz
22:19.39trhwould be a "beef labeling supervision duty assigment law" ;)
22:20.12Stanzillaaka Rindfleischettikierungwhatever
22:20.18Xinhuan*heads explodes*
22:20.29trhguess i made alot of people not chose german in college/school ;)
22:26.44Repo10prat_signon: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.0-beta-1-g13b7453 Core.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed bug where the wrong data was being pulled from the guild roster due to similar player names.
22:28.00BelazorDALARAN BRILLIANZ
22:28.22BelazorBecause Germans, like Americans, believe Z makes them look cool
22:30.09BelazorArkane Intelligenz
22:31.46EthanCentauraiArkane Cookeez
22:32.23Belazortoc to the hand, and get in the mekgineers choppa
22:32.37trhBelazor: no, it's spoken with an z ;)
22:32.59BelazorNO YOU ARE RONG! IT IS BECAUSE THEY TINK IT MAKE DEM LOOK GOOD, JA
22:33.33trhBelazor: DOCH!
22:34.24BelazorI would /flex my amazing German knowledge but it's been 3 years since I had it in highschool, and now all I know is stuff I heard in Gina Wild movies
22:34.32BelazorXD
22:35.04trhBelazor: hehe.. "Doch" means "you are wrong and i'm right" ;)
22:35.09BelazorXD
22:36.50Repo10little-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r482 / (3 files in 2 directories): frFR Update
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22:37.50trhbut french is even worse than german ;)
22:38.20Belazorya back in junior high I had a choice between french and german (had to pick one) and so I chose the lesser evil
22:38.21BelazorXD
22:38.46Belazorat least german only has umlaut, not those stupid ass tildes in random places on the letters
22:38.46BelazorXD
22:39.04trhhehe
22:39.10trhthe worst thing with french is counting
22:39.45BelazorI thought the worst thing with french was french people
22:39.45BelazorXD
22:40.00trhhehehe
22:40.42trhi mean... 109 = one hundred and nine (makes sense) - the french say "quatre-vingt-dix-neuf" -> 4*20+19
22:40.44trhthat's crazs
22:40.48trhcrazy
22:40.58doom0r4 score and 19
22:41.03doom0renglish has it
22:41.11doom0rjust doesn't use it in america anymore
22:41.18sylvanaarhow does the tradeskill exploit work
22:41.22doom0rnot sure about gb
22:41.23trhyep.. because it's crazy ;)
22:41.39sylvanaarwhere you learn all the skills at once
22:41.54Belazorcalls the GM police on sylv
22:42.36doom0ri would hate to have all skills at once
22:42.37sylvanaardoes not care
22:42.55doom0ri would be driven to level them all and get every recipe
22:44.04Belazorunless you got every recipe along with it
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23:24.17Gnarfozsylvanaar: several professions at once? or what's this about ^^
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23:55.52Dottedhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/talented_data/tickets/3-killing-spree-naming-is-wrong/ errrrrrrr
23:56.01Dottedsomeone kick jerry in the nuts :<
23:58.35HirsuteHeh.  Sounds like he's just scraping Blizz's site, and doesn't want to manually correct the information.

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