IRC log for #wowace on 20081203

00:02.31pentium166there are not enough afk death knights in dalaran for me to click on after reloadui
00:03.22Finthat's awful
00:03.26Finyou should write a letter
00:03.28FinI mean, really
00:03.34pentium166i know, the nerve of some people
00:03.36quiescenssue someone
00:03.46Finit's intolerable
00:03.53Finwho do they think you are
00:03.54pentium166i had to run halfway across the zone to find one!
00:04.03Finthis simply can't continue
00:04.15Finprotests in the strongest possible terms
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00:04.43Finsomething must be done
00:04.55Repo10questitem: 03Pericles * r18 / (2 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
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00:04.56RepoQuestItem: -
00:04.56Finthrows his hands up in the air in disgust
00:04.57RepoVersion 1.01
00:05.00RepoRemove some debug info
00:05.04RepoVersion 1.10
00:05.16Finhey
00:05.20Repo10questitem: 03Pericles 04v1.10 * r19 : QuestItem: -
00:05.21RepoRelease v1.10 to Curse.com
00:05.29Findid you guys hear about the Santa who got sacked for violating Elf and Safety rules?
00:05.33pentium166Now I have to find one with his power bar filled up!
00:05.54Fingiggles like a little girl
00:06.01Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r35 / (5 files in 2 directories): - First pass at supporting localization
00:06.02Repo- Added /ss url
00:06.03gixpentium166: time to reroll
00:06.14Fisker-slaps Fin around a bit with a large trout
00:07.46Pneumatuspastamancer: removing the sorting seemed to make it behave better
00:07.53Pneumatusdidnt notice any duplicate pet frames
00:08.23pastamancercool, I'll try and find pet settings that are non-buggy and then complain to slouken
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00:10.36Groktareyes your soul hungrily
00:12.30Repo10grid: 03Pastamancer 07unitguid * r1063 GridLayoutLayouts.lua:
00:12.31RepoUpdated pet settings to avoid a bug with SecureRaidPetHeader sorting and multiple units (vehicles) with the same name.
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00:15.31Fisker-lol
00:15.33Fisker-rockstar fails
00:15.44Fisker-it performs a release date check when UNINSTALLING the game :3
00:18.03Megalonthee shall not uninstall it before it was released!
00:18.22waallenthere is no way to install stuff without externals using the CC yet, right?
00:18.55Zhinjiowho is Azethoth again
00:19.03Stanzillatoadkiller
00:19.07Zhinjioah, right
00:20.33Groktari see an "external preference" in the options
00:20.37Groktarusing 2.1.0.0
00:20.49Groktarcan set externals to normal or alternate
00:21.05waallenI briefly tried that but it looks like it's still installing /libs
00:21.34Groktardoesn't know then
00:21.55Groktari think part of the problem is that it basically installs zips from the curse site
00:21.59HjalteI tried it yesterday, and when selecting Alternative, it seemed to remove the "libs" folder from the download. I only tried installing 1 addon with it on though.
00:22.07Groktarso there would need to be one without externals and one with
00:22.09Groktarshrugs
00:22.45NivFreakwtb files.wowace.com
00:22.53HjalteIt does seem to have an issue with deleting folders though
00:24.04Groktarblames all curse client issues on NivFreak
00:25.13GroktarNivFreak is against puppies, pie, and installing w/o externals
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00:26.26Zhinjiowell, toadkiller is not understanding the text/label concept in LDB.
00:26.47Groktardoesn't understand the concept either, because he has no idea what LDB is
00:27.03NivFreakGroktar: I am for external free installs
00:27.12Groktarlies!
00:27.18Mikklabel = static name, e.g. addon name
00:27.26Mikktext = something that you might actually be interested in watching
00:27.29Zhinjioexplain it to him. not me.
00:27.34ZhinjioI get it. *grin*
00:27.55Groktari also hear NivFreak is against localization files!
00:27.56Mikki'm thinking a bad example is being copied around from somewhere
00:28.04NivFreakGroktar: I am!
00:28.07Mikkthere's so many that are getting the label/text wrong
00:28.18NivFreakkeep those dirty ruskies out of my lua files
00:28.20Mikkthen again tek fails at docos too and that doesnt help
00:28.34ZhinjioMikk: I use the same text for both if I don't have anything to display. People should feel free to have their display addon disable the text and/or label if they don't want to see it.
00:28.55MikkThat's not right either
00:29.06MikkIf you don't have anything live to display, leave text = "
00:29.06Mikk""
00:29.26TekkubI don't do "label", that's you other jackass's design
00:29.38MikkYeah well I like it
00:30.14MikkI tell Fortress to not show labels, and all I get are little icons that I can click
00:30.15MikkTadaa
00:30.19Zhinjiowell, I don't care enough to change it in my code. If someone doesn't like seeing the text and/or the label, they can disable it in the display addon.
00:30.25KilrooI looked at Fortress
00:30.29ZhinjioMikk: exactly
00:30.30Mikk~fail Zhinjio
00:30.31purlZhinjio: FAIL!
00:30.40Kilrooalong with all the other various display addons for LDB
00:30.53Kilroothat I could find, anyhow.
00:31.16KilrooOnly one I really gave serious consideration besides cargoShip was StatBlockCore, and I don't remember why.
00:31.38Gngsksigh, i want aloft looking nameplates without the 2m memory usage
00:32.00MikkKilroo: each to his own. that's the beauty of the LDB spec
00:32.06Mikklikes Fortress, so uses it
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00:33.14Groktarmmm
00:33.14KilrooMikk: Amen to that. I like cargoShip because (1) it helps me learn some lua, (2) it's small because it lacks configgies, (3) I got it workin' how I like it.
00:33.21Xinhuanlets see who will be the first person to write an addon that can show all LDB, Titan and Fubar plugins, 3-in-1 ;p
00:33.35Kilroo...
00:33.37KilrooHmm.
00:34.01ToadkillerTitan already does that via fubar2broker and native broker support?>
00:34.03quiescensmm
00:34.07Xinhuanyes
00:34.08KilrooUh, wouldn't that almost be possible (in two addons) now with TitanPanel + Fubar2Broker?
00:34.15KilrooI type slow.
00:34.16quiescensmy problem is that I have too many addons showing up on multiple places
00:34.19Xinhuantitanpanel uses ace3 i think? and is more efficient now
00:34.23Xinhuanand supports LDB nativel
00:34.25Xinhuan+y
00:34.39quiescensI had omen showing up 3 times at one point
00:34.56Xinhuanyeah i killed one of the omen button clones ;p
00:35.16quiescenswell, that was just an example
00:35.29Toadkillershould mods have ldb support inside of themselves or do as an addon?
00:35.49Xinhuandepends on addon Toadkiller
00:35.58Xinhuana launcher ldb icon for eg, is just about 5 lines of code
00:36.04Xinhuaneasily includable in the main addon
00:36.21Xinhuanbut something more complex, say with menus and dropdowns and clickable tooltips, probably shouldn't
00:36.40ToadkillerThats what I did for AutoBar, although replacing the minimap icon stuff fubar provided was more work
00:36.52Toadkillerbut not much more
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00:37.36MikkYoink, it's toadkiller
00:37.43MikkI had something I wanted to say to you
00:37.46Mikkthinks
00:37.48Toadkillersay it!
00:37.51MikkAck!
00:37.56MikkI think it was several things!
00:38.06Toadkillerpt3 + quest stuff?
00:38.09MikkOhyeah, autobar addonloader thingy
00:38.12MikkIt works
00:38.14MikkBut a bit too well
00:38.24Xinhuantoo well?
00:38.28quiescensis the avoidance diminishing returns thing only on parry and dodge?
00:38.29ZhinjioToadkiller: I use MODNAME for both the text and label in extractor. Disable it in your display addon if you don't want to see them.
00:38.30MikkI have an addon scanning party members' specs
00:38.42Mikkwait autobar.. i meant talented
00:38.48Mikksmax himself
00:38.56Toadkilleryou were starting to freak me out there
00:38.58Xinhuanshouldn't you be talking to jerry in his thread then ;p
00:39.04Mikkwell yeah
00:39.07Mikkgrumbles
00:39.10Mikkthen it was something else
00:39.29Toadkillernot the quest button and its items & mining them?
00:39.38MikkMmmm no I said what I wanted to
00:39.43MikkAnd you agree
00:39.46MikkSo all is good there
00:39.54MikkOh yeah there we go http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACE-209
00:39.56Xinhuan~lart Mikk
00:39.56purlputs Mikk through a wood chipper
00:39.57ToadkillerYeah, I am pondering how to transition it all
00:40.15MikkIf I were you I'd just take all Quest:Quest + manual entries for now
00:40.21MikkWell Quest:Quest with "Use:" I mean
00:40.43MikkIt'll be a very small % of less-than-useful items but hey at least they'll pop up stuff like "Requires Magical Place of FooBar"
00:40.48Mikkwhich is semiuseful in and of itself
00:41.23ToadkillerYeah I was thinking of splitting it into sets with everything and then the specifically vetted ones you can do the switch without deluging with the pre wotlk ones that are already excluded
00:42.30MikkThen again you can probably just scan wowhead for Quest:Quest with onuse
00:42.47MikkBut that still requires updates when new patches are out though
00:43.31ToadkillerAh ok, so with the space thing what I have is a panel that shows all the items you drag into your custom category.  I am trying to have them just be a dense array of icons.  The 170 spacer limits them to about 4 per line instead of more like 20.  I did a workaround in the resize callback by just resetting the size to 32 but that is lame and could cause issues
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00:44.26MikkAahh
00:44.32ToadkillerI should be able to post an alpha of it this week once I get more of the config implemented and debugged.
00:44.45MikkYeah I guess it'd make sense to have it smaller for those
00:44.53ToadkillerAlso I finally found a not too ugly way to allow drag & drop rearrange of the "icons"
00:45.46NivFreakso why doesn't fubar use LDB yet? or does it? :P
00:45.51ToadkillerSo I am pretty happy with how its going to turn out
00:46.06NivFreakand b2f doesn't count
00:46.08Toadkillertheres a conversion plugin that feeds brokers to it...
00:46.14Toadkillerdoh
00:46.29ToadkillerLack of programming applied?
00:46.31ArrowmasterNivFreak: because fubar uses rock
00:46.39NivFreakrock is dead
00:46.43NivFreaklong live fubar4
00:46.45Arrowmasterexactly
00:46.51NivFreakheh
00:46.54MikkThere's the small problem of ck having gotten a job
00:46.58MikkAnd umpteen addons
00:47.03ToadkillerIS it dead?
00:47.08Arrowmasterrock is
00:47.12NivFreakck said rock is dead
00:47.16Arrowmasterand the problem existed before ck got a job
00:47.20NivFreakyes
00:47.28WobWorkhehe
00:47.33Toadkillerah ok.  thank goodness I procrastinated long enough on AutoBar then ;-p
00:47.40Groktarcow tipping XTREME: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkOug1c9YCQ
00:48.58KilrooThe Cheat, however, is not dead.
00:51.02NivFreakGroktar: nice
00:51.03ToadkillerI would like to see the debug stuff from Rock salvaged though
00:51.15Toadkillerck had a really nice aproach with it
00:51.56Arrowmasterbloat
00:52.22Groktarhehe
00:53.09MikkIt's not going into ace3
00:53.13Repo10dr-damage: 03Dally1991 * r706 / (11 files in 3 directories): DrDamage:
00:53.14Repo- Death Knight support is in. Values are still somewhat inaccurate, so please don't flood me with reports on this issue unless you can pinpoint the EXACT reason for the inaccuracy!! Sigils and Glyphs are currently unsupported.
00:53.15Repo- Small change to Rogue's Killing Spree. Should now reflect 5 separate hits, rather than total damage in one clump.
00:54.15NeoTronnot supporting sigils... isn't a huge problem ;-)
00:56.07WobWorkwe.. have sigils? =P
00:58.25Repo10questitem: 03Pericles * r20 / (4 files in 1 directory): QuestItem: -
00:58.26RepoVersion 1.20
00:58.27RepoAdded include & exclude options to override what the Blizzard item type is
00:58.28Repoand thus force inclusion or exclusion from quest item bag
00:58.44Groktarsigils/totems/librams/whatever the druid things are called are stupid
00:58.53Groktarwith they'd just put stats on them
00:58.59Groktarand make it so all classes can use them
00:59.08Groktarer
00:59.20Groktarall the classes that use relics can use them
00:59.34quiescens"Relic"
00:59.43Megalonwe droods use idols! ;s
00:59.47quiescens+22sp, +10 int
00:59.51quiescenslol
00:59.57MegalonRelic
00:59.59Megalonsounds more like
01:00.05Megalon+222sp, +100int!
01:00.57Groktarwell at least 3 different classes might want such an item
01:01.02MikkGifv a vendor to convert wands into idols
01:01.13MikkOr shields
01:01.23MikkYes, it's cheesy, but it bloody works
01:01.39Primershould make every piece of gear enchantable
01:01.47quiescensI just don't like how all the sigils/totems/librams/idols either:
01:01.56quiescensaffect one spell and one spell only
01:02.08quiescensor last for a duration shorter than the cooldown
01:03.02Groktarwith all the hooplah about things like FAP and items with bonus armor you'd think they do something about relics
01:05.55trhsigils/relics/whatever are just that the classes stfu about complaining having a empty slot there
01:07.08Groktaryeah, but they waste perfectly good spots on loot tables
01:07.10Groktar><
01:08.14Brunersthose ghost in silverpine/tirisfal are still name rare?
01:11.02Repo10lifepercent: 03Rabbit * r36 LifePercent.lua: 3.0 fix.
01:11.07vhaarrGnarfoz: try now ^^
01:12.00AeyanYeah... so three sigils in game.
01:12.04Aeyanchews on that for a while.
01:12.05AeyanTasty.
01:12.21quiescens?
01:12.47AeyanThere's three DK sigils in the game right now
01:12.53quiescensfun
01:13.04Brunersyou only need one :P
01:13.33trhAeyan: http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.10
01:13.55AeyanOh, my bad, four sigils in the game.
01:14.03quiescensare the pvp rewards in yet?
01:14.05AeyanHateful and Deadly aren't in till Season 5.
01:14.20AeyanTwo of those are junk items
01:14.22trhthey are probably in the game but aren't yet buyable
01:14.29AeyanThat
01:14.32quiescensinteresting distinction
01:14.35AeyanThat's not 'in game' though
01:14.36AeyanHehe
01:15.00AeyanJust saying they dropped the ball a little there.
01:15.04trhyea
01:15.13trhi think they basically forgot it
01:15.18trhor just don't care about it
01:15.24AeyanOne sigil at character creation and 3 options in the top end.
01:15.31quiescensits okay, my druid is using a level 65 idol anyway
01:15.43AeyanNo, I understand
01:15.49AeyanThere's not a lot of variety
01:15.54AeyanEveryone uses the same idols, etc
01:15.56quiescensoh no no
01:15.59quiescensthere is variety
01:16.05AeyanYou know what I mean =P
01:16.14quiescensinsomuch as variety means that there are no upgrades for the idols we used to use
01:17.14trhjust say to yourself it's awesome to have limited choices, therefore it wont be hard to do it
01:17.52Thraequiescens: Duh, Ferals were always overpowered since they changed the final talent in our tree from "Natural Shapeshifter" to "Leader of the Pack".
01:17.53Finwouldn't you then have to hit yourself for being such a terrible liar?
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01:18.15AeyanOh, the choice won't be hard at all.
01:18.23AeyanSo, yeah, pluses there
01:18.28quiescensnow now fin, most people are pretty good at lying to themselves
01:18.47trhAeyan: i guess the only real choice is the dalaran one for heroics anyway ;)
01:18.51Fina finely honed sense of denial is a useful skill
01:18.56AeyanYep.
01:19.08ThraeThere's nothing wrong with Feral Druids in PvP, they can heal themselves while in caster form.
01:19.14AeyanUnless you've got some Arena points laying around or you're running 25-man Naxx
01:19.38AeyanDoes Wintergrasp victory still give arena points?
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01:20.07MikkThat sounds ... wrong
01:20.08quiescenshow did you end up talking about feral pvp?
01:20.13quiescenslol
01:20.27trhhe likes the druid pussy ;)
01:20.47Fin(I believe they refer to it as "druid muff")
01:20.50Finnods
01:21.00Groktartastes Fin
01:21.04MikkPing Kaelten / ckknight: repomgr is dead again it seems
01:21.08quiescenssome of the relics are alright anyway, its just they're few and far between, and the "good" relics may or may not even be applicable to your spec
01:21.16Groktar^
01:21.17Thraedoesn't like PvP as anything other then Feral, even if it sucks.
01:21.21ckknightMikk: ...no?
01:21.25AeyanThrae's a feral druid, I believe
01:21.26Fin<- tender and juicy
01:21.32Mikkckknight: hmkay... i'll give it another minute then
01:21.33AeyanThink I saw him scampering around in Outland once
01:21.39ckknightMikk: what's the issue?
01:21.42FinI also taste nice
01:21.42Groktarthey're basically glyphs on boss loot table, imo
01:21.45Fina tish-boom!
01:21.46ckknight<PROTECTED>
01:21.52Mikkckknight: new repo not being created
01:22.14Repo10lifepercent: 03Rabbit * r37 LifePercent.lua: Real 3.0 fix.
01:22.22vhaarrGnarfoz: okay, eh, should actually work now :på
01:22.36ckknightMikk: what repo?
01:22.41Mikkfinklestein
01:22.59Mikkactually hmmm it's saying authorization failed
01:23.59Finye.. oh
01:24.00ckknightusing svn:// or svn+ssh://?
01:24.14Mikkckknight: svn://
01:24.18ckknightwhat's your username?
01:24.20Mikkmikk
01:24.22FinFin
01:24.30quiescenshmm, don't know where to report errors half the time these days
01:24.31Mikki can access my other repos fine, including one i created just a few days ago
01:24.58ckknighthrm, I see the issue
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01:25.51Mikk[X] I-r-poweuser-so-i-think-i-know-stuff-except-i-didnt-look-so-prolly-forgot-something
01:25.53Mikk^ that?
01:25.59Mikkshould leave that unchecked
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01:26.28quiescensdamn knowitall powe users
01:26.51NeoTronsigil of haunted dreams - yay for a sigil giving us one of the very worst stats we can get ftw
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01:28.43ZyndromeNeoTron , not to forget that DK gear was designed during a very catastrophic office party
01:28.53Gnarfozvhaarr: it werx
01:29.00Zyndromei.e. the DPS T7 chest has stamina has socket-bonus
01:29.05pompyWhy isnt this search with filters returning no results lol.. i think it should be http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.4&filter=minrl=71;maxrl=80;cr=99:42;crs=2:1;crv=0:0
01:29.06Zyndromeand the peices got haste
01:29.54Zyndromeis there any tankgear that -requires- blacksmithing?
01:30.05Repo10libsubzone-1-0: 03mikk * r5 Scanner/Scanner.xml: Fix load order. Doh.
01:30.21vhaarrGnarfoz: yay, thanks
01:30.28pompyyeah plenty. im wearing some pieces
01:30.39Zyndromepompy : http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.4&filter=minrl=71;maxrl=80;cr=86:42;crs=2:1;crv=0:0
01:30.55Zyndromeselect "Crafted by a profession", not that it requires it :P
01:30.57Mikkpompy: because there are no items that require a profession spec past 71
01:31.06Mikk(yet, anyway)
01:31.25pompyoopss. i put player level i n prof level?
01:31.30pompyin8
01:31.47Mikkno, you were searching for lvl71+ items (correct) that require a profession (there are none)
01:32.06pompyooo 'crafted by a profession' lol
01:32.10pompymy bad
01:32.13ckknightMikk: should be fixed for you
01:32.19pompyThanks
01:32.20pompyguys
01:32.22Mikkckknight: anything i should be aware of?
01:32.26Mikk(or pass on)
01:32.36ckknightthat it's not really fixed, I just hacked finklestein in
01:32.39ckknightI'm working on the real fix
01:32.48Mikkok
01:33.45Brunersckknight: i can still download the file :P
01:34.09NeoTronZyndrome: love plate with agility on it, which really no plate class wants
01:34.11ckknightKaelten has to write a something first for that to be fixed, Bruners
01:34.19ckknightactually, it really wouldn't matter
01:34.25ckknightyour file just wasn't marked as 'v'
01:34.28ckknightso don't worry about it
01:34.41Brunersbut i could still spread the file from the location
01:34.46Brunersif that was the point
01:34.56Brunerssomething i would be doing if i was a bad guy
01:34.59ZyndromeNeoTron , and good thing they didn't add a single god damn sigil as a reward on the way to 80 and beyond, like they did for every other class that use them
01:35.29Zyndromeonly sigil worth getting is from Gothik ... in naxx25 -_-
01:36.28Brunershow good is the badge sigil ?
01:36.39Groktargives Zyndrome a nice job at a call center doing support for aol users
01:36.39Bruners10s seems abit low
01:36.42Zyndromeit stinks
01:37.05Zyndromeand haste is what we don't want
01:37.48PrimerOk, I'm still not getting this. Say I have a frame whose width is 512. Then I have another frame that is a child of the first frame. The first frame is scaled to half its size (0.5 scale, correct?). The second frame is scaled to half ITS size as well. Now, I want to place the second frame within the first frame via an X coordinate. What exactly is the range of X?
01:37.59Zyndromeand if I worked at a call center, Groktar , I'd get fired the same day due to shouting and insulting dimwits callers
01:38.01PrimerIf everything was scale 1, it'd be 0-512, right?
01:38.14Groktarhehe
01:38.20Groktari worked at a call center for six months
01:38.26Primernow, the scale of the parent frame shouldn't matter, correct?
01:38.33BrunersZyndrome: why dont we want haste?
01:38.35Groktarby the third month i was regular calling in sick
01:38.40Groktar*regularly
01:38.45ZyndromeDKs benefit very very little from it
01:38.48Primerit's only the scale of the second frame?
01:38.50Zyndromeit only adds to our white damage
01:38.59BrunersZyndrome: still more dammage
01:39.10Brunersand lowers GCD
01:39.13Groktareventually in the sixth month i called in sick two days in a row, and then they never heard from me again
01:39.23NeoTronZyndrome: I was quite baffled when there was a quest that rewarded a ranged slot item for every single class except DK's
01:39.34Groktarmailed me my last paycheck
01:39.35NeoTronand that the PvP rewards in Grizzly Hills has items for every class except DK...
01:39.35Groktarlol
01:39.54Zyndromeyus, just look at this bullshit : http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=27760
01:40.03NeoTronBruners: badge sigil would be great if it gave us crit or strength or ap or something
01:40.05Zyndrome"haev sum new relics .. DKs? lol"
01:40.57Zyndromewe have to do PvP for a decent sigil : http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42620
01:41.00Primerpvp rewards in Grizzly Hills?!
01:41.10PrimerI must look into this
01:41.22NeoTronBruners: melee gcd doesn't get affected by haste does it, only caster?
01:41.37NeoTronand white damage isn't exactly stunning for a melee spec
01:41.38Brunersthink it does
01:41.49NeoTronwell let me put it this way
01:41.53Zyndromeafaik haste doesn't affect melee GCD
01:41.56NeoTronit doesn't change the gcd for hunters, rogues adn warriors
01:42.07NeoTronI believe it doesn't affect DK's but haven't veryfied
01:42.17Brunersbut it would affect gcd on spells then ?
01:42.27Repo10gathermate: 03next96 * r619 Locales/GatherMate-koKR.lua: GatherMate :
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01:42.44Brunersso lower gcd on IT, PS, DC etc ?
01:43.40WobWorkPS isn't a spell per se
01:43.44Brunerswhen my Meteorite whetstone procs im 100% sure it lowers GCD
01:43.57Bruners444 haste rating
01:44.09WobWorkUnholy presence definite alters the GCD for everything
01:44.16WobWorkbut I think that's specified in the tooltip
01:44.19Brunersit is
01:44.21WobWorkdefiniltey
01:44.23WobWorkargh
01:44.26WobWorkhands so cold
01:44.28WobWorkcant type
01:44.56NeoTronunholy prescence lowers gcd and increases haste. the haste increase doesn't affect the gcd
01:46.24Brunerswhat is the thing with all weapons be it heroic drop, blacksmithing or naxx 10 man having the same dammage?
01:46.36Brunersand mostly only maces
01:46.49NeoTronthey are all the same?
01:47.26Brunersdifferences on stats only, some got haste, some hit etc
01:47.27NeoTronepics is still clearly the new blue thoguh
01:47.53Megalonhaste affects gcd triggered by spells
01:48.10NeoTronMegalon: but are DK spells considered spells, or not?
01:48.28Brunerswe are casters atleast
01:48.34NeoTronIT, PS, BB, UB are technically spells
01:48.45NeoTronbut the class is considered a melee class
01:49.05Brunershttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=61455
01:49.20NeoTronyes?
01:49.23RaydenUgood grief some people are touchy
01:49.31RaydenUwe've been using both the in-game calendar and our wiki for raid signups
01:49.39RaydenUi get on today and there's a notice saying go to the wiki to signup
01:49.48RaydenUso i ask "no more in-game signups, only the wiki?"
01:50.10RaydenUsome guy PM's me telling me that it's a pain in the ass for the lady in charge to do it in-game and that i shouldn't bug her about it
01:50.16RaydenUbwuh? i was just curious?!
01:51.28NeoTronso glad I've never had to deal with "raid signups"
01:51.37NeoTronbetter to just have people show up and build a group from who's available
01:51.47Brunersraid signups should be kept out of the game
01:51.57Brunersthat way you can sign up from work :P
01:52.36RaydenUNeoTron as a raid leader it would drive me crazy to not know who was coming
01:52.44RaydenUand then deciding who not to bring because we have too many
01:52.45NeoTronRaydenU: get better ppl
01:52.46Repo10finklestein: 03mikk * r2 / (3 files in 2 directories):
01:52.47RepoAlchemist Finklestein daily quest helper - shows location of reagents he requests as a red dot on the map. Always on the 2 lowest shelves for gnome friendliness.  Locale independant.
01:52.47NeoTron:)
01:52.54RaydenUBruners you can sign up from the armory
01:53.11RaydenUyou just can't make events from the armory
01:53.12NeoTronsignups are onyl needed if you can't trust people to come
01:53.20NeoTronand it'd drive me crazy to have such unreliable raiders
01:53.25MikkYes, that addon is so lame I should shoot myself for writing it
01:53.31RaydenUthere is no expectation that someone will be at every raid in my guild
01:53.34NeoTronwe've always used "post an email message if you _can't_ come" metho
01:53.35RaydenUit fluctuates each week
01:53.42RaydenUwe don't have a set 10 people
01:54.05Brunersdidnt know you could do that from the armory
01:54.25Brunershttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=39403 vs http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41386 for DK then ?
01:54.47RaydenUit just seems like some people take offense to whatever i say
01:54.51RaydenUi don't mean anything by it people!
01:55.09RaydenUwhy must people read things into questions?
01:55.23gixNeoTron: ya we did the same. sign out instead of up. how it should be
01:55.32GnarfozMikk: how's that really different from EasySerum? ^^
01:55.58Mikkeek?
01:56.22Gnarfoz@project easy-serum
01:56.22RepoGnarfoz: No project found that matches 'easy-serum'
01:56.24Gnarfozbah
01:56.25Mikkit's better because you fricking find mine!
01:56.27Gnarfoz@project easyserum
01:56.27RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/easyserum/. EasySerum. Game: WoW. Leader: Xinhuan. Updated: 9 hours ago
01:56.44Gnarfozas if I knew how the NPC is named :p "that serum quest" :p
01:57.26Gnarfoz@project finklestein
01:57.27RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/finklestein/. Finklestein daily quest helper. Game: WoW. Status: Needs Approval. Leader: mikk. Updated: 4 minutes ago
01:57.35Xinhuanmine's better Mikk ;p
01:57.36Gnarfozuh-oh 403
01:57.37Gnarfoz:O
01:57.39Xinhuanalso written days ago HEHE
01:57.57Xinhuan:)
01:58.04Mikkplus mine is gnome friendly
01:58.07Mikkand uses addonloader
01:58.10Mikkand locale free
01:58.11Mikk!
01:58.33Xinhuanhow's it locale free
01:58.34Brunersaddon wars v2
01:58.36Gnarfozmost of all, yours is inaccessible
01:58.42Gnarfoz:P
01:58.57MikkXinhuan: doesnt require translations
01:59.00Mikknot that i know if yours does
01:59.05Xinhuanmine does heh
01:59.08Mikk\o/
01:59.17Xinhuani'll look at yours
01:59.25Mikkit also allowed me to find a very odd bug related to addonloader somehow
01:59.26GnarfozI'd look too, buuuuut.
01:59.33Xinhuanah i see what u did
01:59.39Xinhuanyou used the debuff icon
01:59.41Mikkyaaaaa =)
01:59.48Mikkis smrt
01:59.59Xinhuanwell yours possibly uses a lot of CPU time
02:00.14Xinhuanmine uses none, because it only listens for CHAT_MSG_RAID_WHISPER
02:00.30Xinhuanalso, you use astrolabe!
02:00.33Xinhuani don't hehe
02:00.39Gnarfozmay I?
02:00.43MikkMmm... but mine does nada unless you talk to finkle first
02:00.45Gnarfozbloaaaat :D
02:00.51Gnarfoz:(
02:00.56Xinhuanbut using astrolabe for such a small addon, is.. eew
02:01.06MikkWhat do you suggest I use instead?
02:01.12MikkI want the minimap dot, it's not negotiable :P
02:01.28Xinhuani don't know
02:01.29GnarfozI suggest embedding tomtom for the 3d arrow
02:01.31Gnarfoz:o
02:01.47Gnarfozor even better, why not package Cartographer :p
02:01.51Xinhuanbut what i can say is, EasySerum has a memory footprint of 5kb :p
02:02.01MikkOh boohoo, mine is 25
02:02.02xyuXinhuan: is wowequip still working?  
02:02.04MikkHow will I live :P
02:02.05Xinhuani can probably add addonloader support :D
02:02.14MikkWhat do you use for telling people where to go?
02:02.28Gnarfoztext?
02:02.29Gnarfoz:>
02:02.31Xinhuanread the desctiption of the addon at
02:02.31Xinhuanhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/easyserum/
02:02.34Xinhuandescription
02:02.45Mikkread it
02:03.02Xinhuani just use text heh
02:03.18Xinhuani considered checking for the existence of tomtom and using a waypoint arrow if it exists
02:03.28Xinhuanthen i'm like, screw it :P
02:04.25Xinhuanmikk, maybe we can combine
02:05.59MikkNoooooo it's a war!
02:06.02Mikk!!!111
02:06.12Xinhuan:<
02:06.23MegalonAND TOGETHER THEY SUMMON... CAPTAIN PLANET
02:06.43MikkHmmm I like the tomtom idea
02:06.44Megalonor perhaps that power rangers ultrarobot ;<
02:07.28MikkAnyway... the thing I found
02:07.46MikkI'm using X-LoadOn-Events: GOSSIP_SHOW
02:07.55MikkAnd I also have that regged in the addon of course
02:07.56Xinhuanwhat about it
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02:08.11MikkIf I just LoadAddOn() the addon, the normal registration in the addon works
02:08.21MikkBut if it fires via the AddonLoader one, it doesnt
02:08.24MikkBut all other events work
02:08.33MikkI'm totally stumped as to what may cause it
02:09.16Xinhuanbecause
02:09.40Mikk## X-LoadOn-GOSSIP_SHOW: if tonumber(strsub(UnitGUID("target"), 9,12),16)==28205 then AddonLoader:LoadAddOn("Finklestein"); FinklesteinFrame:GOSSIP_SHOW(); end
02:10.15MikkThat works. I see the call to GOSSIP_SHOW
02:10.20MikkBut it never fires via the event
02:10.29Xinhuanyou didn't register it i think
02:10.45MikkBut if I LoadAddOn("Finklestein") manually
02:10.47MikkIt works
02:10.50MikkChew on that one    oO
02:11.15Xinhuanconsidering you didn't set an OnEvent function
02:11.19Xinhuani don't see how it would work
02:11.31Xinhuanoh wait you did
02:11.36Mikkdispatcher style yeah
02:12.10Xinhuantoo lazy to debug your addon now
02:12.20Mikkhehe who isn't
02:12.24Mikkespecially with our servers down
02:13.24Xinhuani don't know, i just don't like using UnitAura ;p
02:13.30Xinhuanthat event is really spammy
02:13.47Xinhuanunless you capture the quest turn in event for it, and unregister it
02:13.55MikkIt's on a timer of course
02:14.34MikkIf you're ever seen without one of the quest debuffs for more than 10 seconds -> unregister
02:14.56Xinhuanah
02:15.40MikkSo yeah I could POTENTIALLY waste a ilttle bit more CPU than yours does
02:15.44MikkWhile running around in the crypt
02:15.47MikkSee if I care! :P
02:15.52Xinhuanok your addon does a minimap dot right?
02:15.54MikkYes
02:16.06Xinhuanit doesn't say which row/item on that dot right?
02:16.10MikkNo
02:16.12Xinhuanso still have to search for it, yeah?
02:16.13MikkYes
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02:16.24Xinhuanthat's where mine is superior! i win!
02:16.24MikkThough it places the dot in front of the item
02:16.30MikkAnd it's always on the 2 bottom shelves
02:16.36MikkSo yeah you have to mouse over like 2 items :P
02:16.53Xinhuan"Pickled Eagle Egg: Right side, Case 1, Row 2, Item 2" fail safe!
02:17.01Xinhuani still think we can combine addons :p
02:17.14MegalonXinhuan: there will be better idiots in 2009, believe me!
02:17.16MikkNow I have to remember in which order your count cases and rows
02:17.27MikkAnd the chinese probably count items from the right
02:17.31MikkCause they're funny that way
02:17.40Xinhuani'm chinese, and i assure you, we don't count right-to-left ;p
02:17.45MikkDamnit!
02:17.56Xinhuanthere's even chinese localization!
02:18.22Xinhuani do want to put in a tomtom arrow or something though hehe
02:18.27Mikkmmm me too
02:18.29Mikkand umm
02:18.35Mikkanimations when you mouseover the right thingy
02:18.36MikkYES!
02:18.42MikkI WILL BUILD THE BESTEST ADDON EVAR!
02:18.44Xinhuanrofl
02:19.11Mikkif only GOSSIP_SHOW stops bugging =(
02:19.51MikkIt's as if addonloader unregisters GOSSIP_SHOW on my frame
02:19.53Mikkinstead of its own frame
02:21.42Mikkwonders what frame names addonloader uses...
02:22.14Mikknop, just 1 global addonloaderframe
02:22.39Xinhuani would just hook UnregisterEvent on the frame
02:22.45Xinhuanand make it assert(false)
02:22.48Xinhuanso u can get a trace
02:24.10Xinhuani use this technique to debug soemtimes
02:24.10Mikkhmmm... addonloader sets up a fake fenv
02:24.37Xinhuanhow is that relevant
02:25.25Mikkwas just thinking that i might be working with two entirely different frames or something
02:25.31Mikkbut that's not the case
02:25.46Mikkthough I _AM_ wondering if that fenv causes addons to load unnecessarily slowly
02:27.31Mikkbah, i can theorize as much as i like
02:27.36Mikkcan't debug squat til tomorrow morning
02:27.38Mikkgnite
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02:27.57digmouseg'morning
02:28.02orionshock~ugt
02:28.03purlsomebody said ugt was Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
02:40.48Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r36 readme.txt: Enhanced the documentation in the readme.txt
02:41.57Repo10tank-points: 03Whitetooth * r87 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Support for Warrior talent: Critical Block
02:41.58Repo- Fixed Shield Block and Holy Shield calculations
02:43.43digmouseI didnt say "G'Evening" right
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02:44.39fewynsigh i wish i could get better frame rates while raiding
02:45.03dig|workget a stronger heart
02:45.35digmouse|workI mean CPU
02:47.40fewynmoo: os: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate - Service Pack 1 (6.0.6001) up: 1wk 5days 14hrs 12mins 19secs cpu: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2160 @ 1.80GHz (x64) at 1800MHz (62% Load) gfx: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB res: 1440x900 32bit 59Hz ram: 1197/2046.8MB (58.47%) [||||||----] hdd: C:\ 77.63GB/149.05GB D:\ 407.07GB/465.76GB net: NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller - 9223372036854.7754MB/s 0B In 0B Out
02:49.06orionshock62% load...
02:49.09orionshockouch?
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02:57.55digmouse|workmy working comp is a Sempron 2600+ and MX440... lol
02:58.56Hjaltefewyn: You are havin fps issues in boss fights?
02:59.28fewynyea
02:59.31fewynit's killing my dps
02:59.41Hjaltefewyn: My whole raid is having that.
02:59.54Hjaltefewyn: Doesn't everyone in your raid group experience lag as well?
03:00.36digmouse|workI always raid at around 20 fps
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03:00.53fewynnot that much
03:01.03Hjaltedigmouse|work: I have 20-30 dps in raids, but I drop to 5-8 when in a boss fight.
03:01.06fewynit's getting really annoying
03:01.09Hjaltefps*
03:01.27fewynit's hurting my dps
03:01.29digmouse|worksounds like too much mods make a CPU load crash
03:01.30fewynwhich is bad
03:01.40Hjaltefewyn: I believe it is a blizzard issue. At least someone in my guild wrote a ticket to blizzard and they said they know about it.
03:01.41fewynyea i just disabled a bunch
03:01.57digmouse|workI tried raidign without mods, get over 80-100 at Illidan
03:02.02digmouse|workbut that is a pain
03:02.09Hjaltedigmouse|work: This is only a problem in wrath.
03:02.16fewynyea
03:02.27fewynit's not bad in 10 man
03:02.29HjalteAnd it also only seems to really affect me in 25-mans
03:02.29fewynbut horrible in 25
03:02.48digmouse|workI believe something like the new threat system makes more CPU load than BC
03:03.16digmouse|workonly tried NAXX-10 on beta
03:03.25Brunersi want to see some DK ui's
03:03.36digmouse|workhavent done 25 in 3.0 yet, I'll see what it looks like in 3.0
03:03.38Hjaltedigmouse|work: I raided the old instances with the new blizzard threat meter, but they didn't lag at all.
03:04.03Hjaltedigmouse|work: My bet is that you'll have severe interface lag whenever your raid enters a boss fight in 25-man raids.
03:04.10Hjaltefewyn: Are you EU?
03:04.15fewynnah
03:04.17fewynUS
03:04.50digmouse|workHjalte: I had some on beta raiding in NAXX, and I'll see whether my 3.6GHz E2180 can do in 3.0 25raids
03:05.05digmouse|workespecially complicated fights like Illidan and Kalec
03:05.25Hjaltedigmouse|work: My computer is a little old, but my friend who has one of the best computers money can buy lags a lot too.
03:05.35digmouse|workthen BLiz fail!
03:05.51HjalteI'm afraid so.
03:06.00HjalteBut I haven't seen any aknowledgement
03:06.04Hjaltefrom Blizzard.
03:07.24digmouse|workBliz actually dont admit much interface designing faliure
03:07.45digmouse|workexcept if it is something silly like that shadow system bug
03:08.45HjalteIs there a way to disable the new shadows entirely?
03:09.43digmouse|workchange the shadow settings to lowest should do, the shadows are gone
03:10.22digmouse|workor use that old consold command? dunno if it works on 3.0/LK live
03:10.34digmouse|works/consold/console/
03:12.36HjalteI'm running with all settings on minimum, and it doesn't help it.
03:15.39digmouse|workthen check your memory and CPU
03:16.10digmouse|workmostly CPU and memory usage are more relevant in fps drops
03:16.32digmouse|workalong side OS running status, like system rubbage, virus, etc
03:17.20Primerwhat is rubbage
03:18.12Repo10grid: 03Pastamancer 07unitguid * r1064 GridCore.lua: Don't check for Roster since we're not using it anymore.
03:18.26Primerpasta's been busy today
03:18.40pastamanceryeah, too bad I didn't get anything done at work
03:18.49Primersame here
03:18.52pastamancerhow'd that formula work out for you Primer?
03:18.57Hjaltedigmouse|work: The lag is happening to every single member of the 25-man raid group, so I really doubt it has anything to do with our computers. It's either an addon we all use, too much addon spam or a blizzard problem.
03:19.10Primerit didn't, I went back to x *2pi :)
03:19.24Arrowmastereverybody is complaining of lag
03:19.33pastamancerok
03:19.51Primerpastamancer: I've yet to test it with far off distance points
03:20.26Primeryou know, a separate set of eyes on this would go a long way in helping me...would you like to try the code to see what it does?
03:20.33PrimerYou'd make me very happy! :)
03:20.34pastamancerurl?
03:20.39Primersec, let me zip it up
03:20.47PrimerI haven't committed any of this
03:20.48pastamancerI'm testing out the changes I made to grid while I was at work today
03:21.09HjalteI'm thinking about asking everyone in my raid group to turn off all their addons just for one try at some point, to rule out that the lag has anything to do with addons. Then I'll start bitching to Blizzard.
03:21.15digmouse|workHjalte: if that happens common, then bliz fail
03:21.26Primerhttp://sh.nu/FlightHUD.zip
03:21.29Primerpastamancer: ^^^^^6
03:21.54pastamanceroh, you're the flighthud guy
03:21.58Hjaltedigmouse|work: Every single 25-man boss encounter so far. In some fights it's tolerable, in some fights it's really bad.
03:22.18Primerpastamancer: heh, not many people know of my addon...the ones that do are mostly here...because I whine a lot
03:22.55pastamancerexcited about UnitPitch I assume?
03:23.01Primerindeed!
03:23.10PrimerI added it as soon as I found out
03:23.38PrimerAnyhow, at this point it can't detect if you've mounted a flying mount vs. regular mount
03:23.40pastamancerso how's this waypoint stuff work?
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03:23.50Primerpull up the map
03:23.57digmouse|workHjalte: I'll see when 3.0 shipps *here* next week
03:23.58Primeryou should see the text at the top right
03:24.01Primererr
03:24.02Primertop left
03:24.17Hjaltedigmouse|work: You live in asia or something?
03:24.27PrimerI guess it might depend on any map mods you have. I use mapster. I think it's shift-rightclick
03:24.31Primerpulls up a dialog
03:24.52Primeryou should then see the point in the HUD
03:24.53digmouse|workHjalte:: yea, the only region which dont have 3.0 yet
03:25.06Primerit supports multiple points too
03:25.16Primertry making some points near, some far
03:25.25Primerto see the scaling between the close vs. far
03:25.59Lysitheawhat does flighthud do?
03:26.03pastamancerah, I see
03:26.06Primerthen pivot your mount (or self if set to "always show") to see the effect
03:26.09Lysitheacant check now since it's maintenence
03:26.23PrimerLysithea: I have a video on the curse.com page
03:26.27Lysitheaooh
03:26.30LysitheaIll go check
03:26.56Primerhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/flight-hud.aspx
03:26.59pastamanceraside from the waypoint not properly showing up on the map it seems ok
03:27.24Primerdo you use a map mod?
03:27.29Primerhere with mapster it shows up
03:27.39Primerwith cart it didn't show up
03:27.47Primerbut that was before wow 3.0
03:27.53pastamancerI am using mapster... and it shows up but if I switch to the continent map or a different zone it shows in the wrong place
03:28.02Primerblame astrolabe :)
03:28.16Primeranyhow, does the representation appear accurate to you?
03:28.39Primerof where the point shows up in the HUD relative to the direction you're facing, distance, etc?
03:28.56pastamancerit makes more sense now that I see what you're trying to do
03:29.00PrimerI plan to make the points got down the hud as they reach the laft and right
03:29.01Primerleft
03:29.13Primerthen pan across the bottom if they're behind you
03:29.25pastamancerand no, it's not staying in the same relative spot at least at 74 yards out
03:29.49PrimerI think that's where the math breaks down
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03:29.59Primersince I want to scale the point based on distance
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03:30.43Primeranother factor is that the HUD itself is scalable
03:31.10Primernot sure what scaling the HUD will introduce. I imagine it won't introduce anything, since the point frame is a child of the HUD frame
03:31.38PrimerI really should make a video of the waypoint stuff so I can better explain what I mean
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03:32.28Brunersthe video made i cooler then the pictures
03:32.31Bruners*it
03:32.34pastamancereven at 331 yards it doesn't stay on the same spot
03:32.46Primerpastamancer: I think the thing that makes this hard is the fact that I can't easily represent the waypoint relative to the camera
03:32.52pastamancerright
03:33.02Primerpastamancer: the point is relative to the character
03:33.03Lysitheathat addon will actually help me alot when aircrafts work in WG and I'll be removing that pitch lock that blizzard has when flying
03:33.14Primerand the HUD is representative of where the character actually is
03:33.14Lysitheasince my computer is so bad I gotta have drawing at lowest setting
03:33.18Primernot where it appears
03:33.23Lysitheaso I dont really see where Im flying sometimes
03:33.55pastamancerit's good enough to tell you that you need to turn left or right though
03:34.28Primerwell, that's the ultimate goal
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03:48.31Primerpastamancer: the last thing keeping me from releasing this as a beta is the ability to detect if I've just mounted a regular mount vs. a flying mount
03:48.38Primerand IsFlying() is not sufficient for this
03:49.53Primerwhat I really need is a hash table of spellID's whole value is 1 for regular and 2 for flying
03:49.59pastamanceryeah
03:50.08PrimerI can find no such thing though
03:50.19PrimerI'm able to get the spellID via GetCompanionInfo()
03:50.50PrimerI'm possibly resorting to scraping this data
03:51.09ThraeYour mount is your "companion". Next they'll call the Pet Mechanic "Combat Life Partners".
03:51.20Primerfrom wowmounts.com. Problem is, they don't supply flying vs. non-flying, or spellid
03:51.32pastamancerit also complicates things that you're not using the entire screen width
03:51.53Primertechnically, all I need are flying mounts
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03:52.04Primersince GetCompanionInfo() returns a value for "active"
03:52.23Primerpastamancer: the HUD is scalable, you know :)
03:53.17PrimerI simply made the default be something that seemed sane
03:53.23pastamancerright, but you're not dealing with a full 180 degrees by not filling the screen
03:54.11Primerwell, the camera doesn't see 180 degrees either
03:54.33PrimerI've presumed a 90 degree POV
03:55.41PrimerI've already decided that I'm never going to be able to match the actual camera angle. It'll always be the player angle
03:56.20pastamancerright, but If I scroll in all the way, it should ideally match up
03:57.25Primerheh, x * 2pi :)
03:57.33Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r37 / (9 files in 3 directories):  (Message trimmed by 12 lines)
03:57.37RepoAdded support for localization, in case anyone wants to volunteer to translate SpeakinSpell into another language
03:57.37RepoAdded support for "<C>" in random speeches, to generate the Copyright (C) symbol
03:57.38RepoAdded support for "<targetclass>" in random speeches
03:57.42Repo- Your target's class, as in "Casting DI on the <targetclass>" becomes "Casting DI on the Priest"
03:57.47PrimerI'd need to be able to convert yards to pixels
03:58.41PrimerI'm able to calculate the length that is the "opposite" side of the right triangle with some trig
03:58.47Primerbut it's in yards
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03:59.28Primersince the distance of the adjacent side is known, and is in yards
03:59.35Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r38 :
03:59.36Repoadded screen shots to the SVN ignore list since they are not source code controlled
04:00.17Repo10cartographer_quest-info: 03next96 * r93 Data/Name-koKR.lua: Cartographer_QuestInfo:
04:00.18Repo- Update locale koKR
04:00.28Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner 04v3.0.3.08-release * r39 : Tagged release 3.0.3.08
04:02.06Primerwarcraftmounts.com, that is
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04:02.43pastamancernow I actually have to remember trig
04:06.21quiescensthe answer is 0
04:09.13Repo10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar * r82 Libs/LibTipHooker-3.0/LibTipHooker-3.0.lua: FBagOfHolding:
04:09.14Repo- Removed strange characters from start of LibTipHooker.lua file.
04:09.42Primerpastamancer: I just got the answer from wikipedia
04:10.10Primerc = tan (A) * b
04:10.40Primeror something
04:11.15Primererr
04:11.33Primergiven this drawing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:TrigonometryTriangle.svg
04:13.20Primera = tan A * b
04:13.21Primerright?
04:14.01Repo10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar * r83 Libs/LibFuBarPlugin-Mod-3.0/LibFuBarPlugin-Mod-3.0.lua: FBagOfHolding:
04:14.01Repo- Removed strange characters from start of LibFuBarPlugin-Mod.lua file.
04:14.04Primerwhere A is in...degrees?
04:14.27Stanzillanot a
04:14.29Stanzillaalpha
04:15.39Primerwait
04:15.46PrimerI know c, not b
04:16.10pastamancerthe lua trig functions use radians
04:16.21Primera = sin A * c
04:16.35Primerwhat I get from Astrolabe returns radians
04:16.53Primerbut I convert it to degrees for display
04:17.01Arrowmasterwho the fuck is feithar
04:18.30PrimerI think I've been going about this the wrong way
04:18.38PrimerI think I simply need to stick with angles and POV
04:18.47Primer-45° to 45°
04:19.01Primeris -256 to 256
04:19.11Primerand forget distance altogether
04:19.11pastamanceryeah
04:19.19pastamancerthe angle is all that matters
04:19.51Primerawesome
04:20.01Primerhaving someone to talk this over with has help immensely
04:20.03Primerthanks, man
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04:22.28Primerlocal bx = (-bearing * 5.688) / distscale
04:22.37Primerheh, I had hard coded that to "6" by trial and error :)
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04:24.27pastamancerI ended up with bx = math.sin(-bearing * math.pi / 180) * MainFrameWidthDiv / math.sin(45 * math.pi / 180)
04:25.29pastamancerwith bearing still in degrees
04:28.43pastamancerit's not perfect, but I'm not sure the frame is really covering 90 degrees
04:29.18Brunershas someone done a list of all the fishing zones with the required skill ?
04:30.06doom0ryes, Ironforge 1-450
04:30.10doom0rthen you can fish everywhere :P
04:30.54ant1pathythere's a bc one up on wowwiki
04:31.03ant1pathyno idea if one's been updated for wrath
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04:35.06Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r40 Locales/Locale-enUS.lua:
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04:38.30Zyndromegod lord, unmaintenance the forums!
04:39.43Arrowmasternow that the failure message tells you the required skill level it shouldnt be hard to find somebody with 1 fishing to go find it out
04:39.58Arrowmasteror atleast ive been told it does now
04:43.18ant1pathyalright, i i want to rebuild my ui
04:43.35ant1pathyand move my current Interface folder elsewhere so in case i get lazy i can copy it back
04:43.50ant1pathyhow does the curse client see that my new folder is empty so i can start intalling new addons
04:49.57doom0rso has anyone one but me noticed that there's The Legerdemain Lounge downstairs and The Ledgerdemain Loung upstairs?
04:50.21doom0rs/Loung /Lounge/
04:50.29doom0rmeh, fail some more]
04:50.32doom0rasdf
04:52.19Zyndrome"If you care about your privacy, this news will probably make you happy. The armory has been updated once again to slightly modify one of the feature introduced last week: the Wealth statistics is no longer available on character sheets. (Total gold acquired, Average gold earned per day, Most gold ever owned, etc ...)"
04:52.26Zyndrometoo much fucking people with tinfoil hats
04:52.55Brunerslol
04:52.57Zyndrome'amg dey can see my wealth, its a conspiracy I tell you!"
04:53.26Brunersi could see kids making a point of that
04:53.50Brunersgetting picked on for having to little or to much gold at school
04:53.53doom0rhas nothing to do with that
04:54.03doom0rhas to do with annoying ass people msging you constantly for gold
04:55.46waallenIs anyone else having slowdowns while using Parrot in aoe situations? The framerate is fine, it just looks like Parrot becomes more and more demanding at those times
04:56.15doom0ruh
04:56.19doom0rof course?
04:56.35digmouse|workI did in LK
04:56.37doom0rload increase is load increase
04:56.51digmouse|workand my solution is disable AOE display in it
04:57.02waallenyeah but in some situations it becomes almost unplayable
04:57.17doom0rthat's like asking if you're engine gets too hot from running it with teh pedal to the floor
04:57.26doom0ryou're really doing the same thing
04:57.57digmouse|workI may disable it's damage display and use the default one
04:58.15waallenI've tried to throttle the damage out skills as well as filtering numbers 1000 but it doesn't get any better
04:58.41doom0rfiltering means you're still processing said numbers
04:58.42waallenso I guess MSBT is more about the same as Parrot in this case
04:58.52doom0ryou're still gonna check everytime what something is against something
04:58.57waallenat least they are not being displayed and animated which is quite expensive iirc
04:59.14doom0rbut your issue is likely cpu slowdown over gpu slowdown
04:59.42Brunersim just using the default
05:00.21waallenI'd do that too but I am too used to Parrot and the likes, it's so much easier to see what got resisted and so on
05:01.24doom0rwell like digmouse|work suggested, turn off aoe
05:01.33waallenI think I will
05:01.37doom0rreally no need for it
05:02.29waallenDo you "filter out" some spells? Maintenance is going on in EU and I can't remember by heart how to do that
05:02.57Brunersany patches today?
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05:03.10waallenI don't think so, US didn't get any this week
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05:09.43Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r61 / (13 files in 3 directories):  (Message trimmed by 5 lines)
05:09.44Repo-general bug fixes, lots
05:09.47Repo-fixed set cost issue, export issues
05:09.51Repo-rework menus again some and unify user changed value saves, more validation
05:09.55Repo-rework phase 1 of nextboss, boss, boss on hover, etc..
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05:10.38Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.1.13 * r62 : Tagging as 2.1.13
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05:16.59doom0rno wonder i slept all day
05:17.03doom0rmy alarm just went off
05:17.06doom0r12 hours late
05:17.12Primerpastamancer: I just used the ratio 256/45
05:19.09pastamancerPrimer: in an instance atm, but I'm going to rub some more trig on it later
05:19.47Brunersdoom0r: thats why i love 24hour clocks, you just cant get it wrong
05:19.54doom0rya
05:19.59doom0rit's hard to find a good one though
05:20.03doom0rmost sounds annoy me
05:20.11Brunersisnt that the point ? :P
05:20.17doom0ri have this like 20 yr old sony dreamvision
05:20.29doom0rno, they need to scare the living hell out of me
05:20.31doom0rnot annoy me
05:20.34doom0ri'm a heavy sleeper
05:20.55Brunersi got a really old one my parents bought in 83
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05:42.37Primerpastamancer: cool
05:42.53PrimerI'm adding the code to handle known flying mount spellid's
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05:44.24pastamancerPrimer: at least on my setup (1920x1200) I'm figuring that FH covers maybe 30 degrees
05:45.20doom0rXinhuan: ping
05:46.07Xinhuanpong
05:46.24doom0rraptor claw on left side in easy serum is counted from the bottom, row 2
05:46.29doom0rright sides are all counted from top
05:46.43doom0ri'm not dyslexic enough to handle that
05:46.48doom0r;x
05:47.23doom0rthat's the only left side i've had
05:47.27doom0rso i dunno if they're all like that
05:47.31Xinhuanerr no?
05:47.41Xinhuan[L["Raptor Claw"]] = 1123,
05:47.47Xinhuanleft side, case 1, row 2, item 3
05:48.25doom0ryup
05:48.35doom0rit's 2nd from bottom
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05:48.41doom0ror third if from top
05:48.45RaydenUi just learned one of my guildmates writes star trek fan fiction and has published some books
05:48.46RaydenU:D
05:49.04pastamancerbut has he written kirk/picard slashfic?
05:49.20pastamancer:p
05:49.29doom0rRaydenU: did you gkick him?
05:49.34doom0r;x
05:49.34RaydenUher
05:49.42RaydenUno i don't have the power, nor would i
05:49.42doom0rrelative
05:49.46Xinhuanhmm i'm pretty sure it is 2nd row from top
05:49.52doom0ryou want a ss?
05:49.59Zyndromehttp://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=jvkhYcTEwRE
05:50.02Xinhuanyes
05:50.11Xinhuancos, when i did it yesterday, it was 2nd row from top
05:50.43Xinhuanhm
05:50.48Xinhuani'll just go check it in about 30 min
05:50.50Xinhuan;p
05:50.59doom0rhttp://img379.imageshack.us/img379/5042/wowscrnshot120208235053ce0.jpg
05:51.04doom0rss
05:51.22Repo10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 * r39 Track-o-Matique.lua:
05:51.23Repo* Abort the tracking restoration if we've entered combat again already.
05:51.39Xinhuanu seem to be looking at the wrong shelf
05:51.44Xinhuanthat's not case 1
05:51.55Xinhuanthere are 4 cases
05:52.03Xinhuan[12/3 13:47:57] <Xinhuan> left side, case 1, row 2, item 3
05:52.15Xinhuancases are numbered left-to-right on both sides
05:52.16doom0rwell, you don't define where case 1 is
05:52.22Xinhuani did, in the addon description
05:52.46Xinhuanhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/easyserum/
05:53.07doom0rhmmm, indeed
05:53.13Xinhuanyour screenshot would be case4, row3, item2
05:53.16doom0ralthough that isn't intuitive
05:53.30doom0rlogical though
05:53.35Xinhuani dunno whats not intuitive about it, its the same system both sides ;p
05:53.49doom0rbecause distance from center is the idea here
05:53.54doom0ryour focus is the cauldron
05:54.11Xinhuanonly 4 items are on the left, the rest are on the right
05:54.34doom0ri'm not saying its wrong, just first thing you see is that case
05:54.51doom0rnot the one all the way round corner, but i guess that's the easiest way to describe instructions
05:56.05doom0rshould bold the directions so people don't miss it like me :P
05:56.13doom0ri saw the left to right row, but not the case
05:57.19doom0ri got a whopping one disctinctive feathers for congratulations =\
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05:58.05Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r41 / (3 files in 1 directory): updated version number and release notes
05:58.34Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner 04v3.0.3.09-release * r42 : Tagged release 3.0.3.09
05:59.19Xinhuani got some green wand yesterday (to DE)
05:59.59doom0ronly reason i even bothered to do it was that i seen the stupid trinket was there
06:00.16doom0rjust to shove in a buddy's face :P
06:01.21Repo10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 042.2beta2 * r40 : Tagging as 2.2beta2
06:02.56Primercan loops be broken?
06:03.00Primeri.e. break ?
06:03.13Brunersdoom0r: one million fubar icons and yet two on the minimap + cords :P
06:03.30doom0ryes, i only keep alphamap on for certain things
06:03.33doom0rand the other is mail
06:03.37doom0rso only whne i have mail :P
06:04.34PrimerIs there no format for boolean?
06:04.41Primerformat("%b", true) ?
06:04.51doom0rBruners: mail wouldn't be there either if there was a decent plugin for that
06:05.25Brunersi remember there was
06:05.26Brunersone
06:05.41doom0rit'd have to have some decent notice/reminder for me to want it
06:05.52doom0rthe mail icon is an eyesore, so i get it taken care of
06:06.24Brunersonly using 80mib more then me :P
06:06.53doom0rqh is 25 of that
06:07.30Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r43 / (3 files in 1 directory):
06:07.31RepoFixed LUA errors which would occur when attempting to add a new spell
06:07.31RepoVerified that the new <targetrace> and <targetclass> features are working
06:07.46krkaRepo: Whenever someone writes Lua in upper case, god kills a kitten. :( :-P
06:08.30Finmurderer
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06:09.25doom0rit's no worse than perl being named perl
06:09.31Finwonders if god kills a bot kitten for Robo
06:10.33Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner 04v3.0.3.10-release * r44 : Tagged release 3.0.3.10
06:10.34RepoIt appears that all errors introduced by adding support for localization have now been resolved.
06:10.35RepoThe new features for <targetrace> and <targetclass> are verified to be working.
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06:16.37Primerpastamancer: this is working beautifully!
06:16.48PrimerI need to add ETA
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06:21.28HirsuteNewly installed addons require a complete client shutdown and restart to be picked up, correct?
06:21.43HirsutePrimer: You got your distance thing figured out?
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06:26.00PrimerHirsute: pretty much
06:26.25Primernow just need to add some fanciness
06:26.34HirsutePrimer: yay!
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06:42.56Xinhuanpastamancer, around?
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06:43.49quiescensnow with added fanciness
06:44.10Xinhuananyone horde faction (and have about 5 minutes of time?)
06:44.39pastamancerXinhuan: yeah
06:44.48Xinhuanpastamancer: http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=30870
06:44.56pastamancerPrimer: ooh, fov on widescreen is different
06:44.58Xinhuancan you fly there and tell me what it connects to ;p
06:45.19pastamancersure, I think just dalaran
06:45.25Xinhuannah it connects to more than that
06:45.31Xinhuanthe alliance one connects to 5 places
06:46.10pastamancerit'll be there we we control wintergrasp, right?
06:46.25Xinhuanits there all the time
06:46.31Xinhuanwho controls wintergrasp isn't relevant
06:46.32pastamancerah, cool
06:46.52Xinhuanso if you're free now, just fly around icecrown, then land in on him
06:47.02Xinhuanget me the connecting paths, and his coords ;p
06:47.20pastamancerdoing it now
06:47.57Xinhuani just finished all the alliance ones
06:48.09pastamanceranyone know what the field of view is for wow in 4:3 and 16:9?
06:48.35Xinhuandon't think so
06:48.46Xinhuanyou can even run 8:3 or 32:9
06:48.59Xinhuanif you run dualscreen and set windows to treat it as one big screen
06:49.19Xinhuanbut wow just uses the top half of 4:3 and blows it up to 8:3
06:49.33Xinhuanand you won't ever see the bottom half of your char's legs ;p
06:50.13pastamancerXinhuan: location: 21623495, connects to Agmar's Hammer, Dragonblight; Tanuka'le Village, Borean Tundra; River's Heart, Sholazar Basin; Dalaran; Crusaders' Pinnacle, Icecrown
06:50.53Xinhuanso that's 5 places
06:50.58pastamanceryeah
06:51.13pastamancerand I'm betting alliance connects to the same three neutral ones
06:51.46Xinhuandoesn't connect fordragon?
06:51.57pastamancerfordragon?
06:52.01Xinhuanalliance one connects to the same 3 neutral ones + starsrest + fordragon
06:52.16Xinhuanfordragon == the place where you watched the video
06:52.18linear`is there an ingame combatlogevent logger that lets you see all the combatlogevents from a unit/guid in a period of time
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06:52.54Xinhuanwrath gate that is
06:52.59pastamanceroh the horde version is Kor'koron Vanguard, and no it doesn't connect
06:53.20Xinhuanyeah i was surprised it connected to borean instead
06:53.27Primerpastamancer: guess I'll have to account for that
06:53.57pastamancerwell, if we assume 4:3 is 90 degrees, then we can derive the fov for other ratios
06:54.55Primerthat should just plug right into what I have
06:55.39Xinhuanwell 5:4 is less than 90 degrees
06:56.06Primerhaving a bit of a hard time figuring out how to get this angle...
06:56.16Primerlike, if my bearing is 136, I need 44
06:56.23Primer137, 43
06:56.25Primeretc...
06:56.30Primerwhat's the term for that
06:57.05Primerlike, angle - 180 * (sign of angle)1
06:57.06pastamanceryou mean 180 - bearing?
06:57.43pastamancerI think that's the complement of the angle but I'm having to look up basic trig because it's been so long
06:57.47PrimerI'm adding the code to make the waypoint appear on the bottom of the HUD and go in the opposite direction if it's between 135 and -135
06:59.01Primerwell, it's sort of a compliment
06:59.15PrimerI mean, yeah
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06:59.30Primerit's exactly that, duh
07:00.32Primeractually, it's supplement
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07:03.42theoddone33ahaha
07:03.49theoddone33a guy in my guild is pugging naxx
07:04.01doom0r?
07:04.04theoddone33they were trying to do 10 man but had it set on heroic and didn't notice until they wiped on anub'arak
07:04.10theoddone33or whoever that guy is
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07:07.09Slaymantheoddone33: anub rekhan
07:07.28Slaymanplus or minus some '
07:08.11Repo10handy-notes_flight-masters: 03Xinhuan * r68 HandyNotes_FlightMasters.lua: Add Alliance data.
07:08.12RepoFix Horde line colors that fly from Horde locations to neutral locations.
07:08.47theoddone33they did trash just fine though
07:08.50theoddone33which is funny
07:19.15doom0rinteresting
07:19.18doom0ri'm alliance
07:19.31doom0ri have 63/50 for City Defender (Horde one)
07:19.33Slaymando the bosses still do the same things they did in der their 60s incarnations?
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07:21.19Slaymantalkin Naxxramas of Course
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07:22.39HjalteSlayman: Some of it, yes.
07:22.56HjalteSlayman: It's easier now though. Much easier.
07:27.30SlaymanHjalte I found it fun and challenging the time we were there, didn't beat Patchwerk though but cleaned spider wing killed raszovious and noth, it was fun while it lasted
07:28.02Slaymanon 60 that was, haven't been in the new version yet, only been to Sartharion
07:28.07HjalteSlayman: I like it as well. I'm not sure for how long though.
07:28.23HjalteSlayman: You might find it too easy now.
07:29.01Primernice, I got the waypoint floating above and below. Now to make it slide up and down the sides
07:29.10SlaymanHjalte: not sure about that, my new guild is partially stupid and does not consist of very good players
07:29.54HjalteSlayman: Most of my guild is scared of the GM/RL because he yells at them if they suck. It makes them now blow as hard as they might, but it's still easy content most of it.
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07:31.30SlaymanHjalte: i lead the raid on sartharion, and got flamed for namecalling the idiots who got flamewaved. I think i like the job, the hate fuels me
07:31.53Slaymanflamewaved and died cuz of doing it more then once
07:32.34HjalteSlayman: If you're doing it with no adds, people shouldn't get hit by the flame wall. After having experienced it once, at least.
07:33.16SlaymanHjalte: schouldn't is just the word, i told ya the peeps in my guild are not good players? well the are not, period
07:33.21ReAnCalling NewLocale(...) with "ruRU" is throwing nil
07:33.30ReAnas well as "frFR"
07:33.41ReAnbut "deDE" is throwing something back
07:33.47ReAnwhat am i doing wrong?
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07:36.19SlaymanReAn: neglecting german superiority apparently
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07:37.16ReAnwell i have 4 locales atm
07:37.23ReAnenUS, deDE, frFR, ruRU
07:37.40ReAnthey're all created the same way (except enUS isDefault = true)
07:37.51ReAnFrameXML.log is kicking out 2 errors
07:38.02ReAnone for frFR and one for ruRU
07:38.06ReAnbut not for deDE
07:38.09ReAnwhich just baffles me
07:39.42ReAnnvm
07:39.44ReAni be stupid
07:40.39Gngskif I check debuff filter as a hunter will it show debuffs that can be removed with master's call?
07:40.45Gngskblah, with ag_UnitFrames
07:40.48ZhinjioXinhuan: ping
07:40.58Xinhuanpong
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07:45.05doom0rZhinjio: WTB controllable click support for what's displayed, not change every mouseover
07:45.13doom0rre: Extractor
07:46.13Zhinjionods.
07:46.27Zhinjiowell, you can already exclude/include what you want of the six panes
07:46.35Zhinjioso that at least limits it to what you want
07:46.42Elkanowhen called for enchants, how does the return value of GetTradeSkillItemLink() look? enchant:xxx or spell:xxx ?
07:46.44Zhinjiowould you just want it to change when hyou click?
07:47.10doom0rZhinjio: how?
07:47.21Zhinjioright click
07:47.27Zhinjiothere are check boxes for each panel
07:47.34Zhinjioherb1-herb4, and ore1/2
07:47.49Zhinjioalso, please note... its stilld ecidedly alpha. There's alot left to be done with it
07:48.01doom0rwhere are they, i don't see them at all
07:48.19Zhinjiowhat version are you using?
07:48.23doom0rr6
07:48.26Zhinjiohmm... I might not have uploaded that yet
07:48.26Zhinjioheh
07:48.31Zhinjiolemme push what i've got
07:48.32doom0r;x
07:48.41doom0rr5 didn't show anything, r6 shows stuff now
07:49.07Zhinjiooh yeah, thats all old.
07:49.08doom0roh, and names on the tooltips would be awesome, i don't know some of the newer stuff yet
07:49.08Zhinjiolemme push
07:50.21Repo10extractor: 03Zhinjio * r7 / (8 files in 3 directories): - added more config
07:50.22Repo- config elements for excluding panels from display
07:50.24Repo- still decidedly alpha
07:52.41Repo10proculas: 03Xocide * r31 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed another bug with the Total Times Procced counter.
07:52.41RepoAdded support for Gem procs.
07:52.42RepoAdded some more procs.
07:56.19Zhinjiolemme know if that is sufficient, doom0r ... otherwise, I can think about adding some other code to switch it somehow
07:56.34doom0ri'll check it out shortly
07:58.21Zhinjiok
07:59.06ckknight...I would totally bang Dr. Cuddy
07:59.13ckknighttoo bad House claimed her already
07:59.19Zhinjioshe's not really my type.
07:59.26ckknightshe's an attractive older woman
07:59.35ckknightI mean, I don't know if I could have a relationship with her
07:59.39ckknightbut a fling, perhaps
07:59.42Zhinjiobut.... given opportunity, sure.
07:59.52Zhinjioand say, not being married.
07:59.57doom0rckknight: bones imo
08:00.03Zhinjionow... yeah.
08:00.06ckknightI don't watch Bones
08:00.08Zhinjioher I'd do. anyway.
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08:00.23doom0rbones is awesome
08:00.27doom0rand she's hot
08:00.31ckknightZhinjio: see, this is where polyamory is useful
08:00.46ZhinjioI'm not opposed to it.
08:00.55Zhinjioits just a dangerous stretch of road.
08:01.25ckknightI think that as long as everyone involved is open and honest
08:01.32ckknightand boundaries are known beforehand, it's all good
08:01.41Zhinjioyeah, lemme know how that works out for you.
08:01.47ckknightwell enough
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08:05.35Repo10handy-notes_flight-masters: 03Xinhuan * r69 / (2 files in 1 directory):
08:05.36RepoMake Northrend flightmaster icons appear on the world map over the blank water when on EK/Kalimdor continent maps, just to be cute.
08:05.37RepoFix mouseover error that occurs when "Show in zones" option is off.
08:05.40RepoBump version to v1.0.2.
08:05.43ReAnIm using AceConfigDialog-3.0:AddToBlizzOptions(...) at the moment and what it has done is tossed a Tree View into the frame on the right, is there a way i can get it do add each component as a sub-component? i.e. take advantage of the tree-structure of the blizzard interface options window?
08:08.41ArrowmasterXinhuan: why would you do that?
08:09.00Xinhuanit looks kinda odd
08:09.08Arrowmasterand bad
08:09.10Xinhuanfor handynotes_guild to show up on water ;p
08:09.30Arrowmasteryeah i noticed that and want to figure out how to fix handynotes_guild
08:10.03Xinhuanits pretty easy, just make it iterate over separate continents rather than all zones
08:10.33Arrowmasterthe azeroth world map should still show things though
08:10.53Xinhuanyeah
08:10.55Arrowmasterno clue if that would be effected
08:11.13Xinhuanthat change in flightmaster was trivial
08:11.14Xinhuantbl.C = C <= 2 and AzerothZoneList or Astrolabe.ContinentList[C]
08:11.19Xinhuanwas originally C == 0
08:11.23Xinhuanrather than C <= 2
08:11.57Xinhuanits sorta interesting to see where northrend is when viewing the other 2 continents
08:12.10Xinhuanat least, from the placement of the FM icons
08:13.03XinhuanEK continent map for eg, is large enough to cover all but the 3 northern most FPs in stormpeaks
08:13.43Xinhuanwhen on kalimdor map, the edge of the map is roughly where amberpine/ebonwatch is
08:14.42Xinhuandoesn't really hurt i think
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08:18.28Arrowmasteri think it looks bad to show points where theres no map
08:19.05Arrowmasterparty/raid blips dont show across like that so neither should other stuff
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08:19.42Xinhuanhmm you sure on the party/raid blips stuff?
08:19.52Arrowmaster100%
08:20.24Arrowmastersince i was in a 25 man naxx raid and we were all heading to naxx and i only saw the guild members that were not in the raid on the other continent maps
08:20.46XinhuanHN_Guild doesn't bother with continents or whatever, it just iterates over ALL known data received
08:20.49Xinhuanthat's why it shows up
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08:22.13Xinhuanwould need to introduce quite a bit of additional code in HN_Guild to fix it
08:22.47Xinhuanbasically, a lookup table to see what map is being requested for, and skipping the ones you don't want to iterate over
08:23.38Xinhuanbasically, additional code needed in lines 121-123
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08:25.09Repo10rating-buster: 03q09q09 * r193 RatingBuster-Locale-zhCN.lua: - zhCN reload fix
08:26.24`Zypherhmmm
08:28.02Elkano~seen nymbia
08:28.04purlnymbia <n=nymbia@c-67-190-49-185.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 1h 41s ago, saying: 'Groktar: :('.
08:28.13Elkano~seen tekkub
08:28.13purltekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 1h 16m 9s ago, saying: 'they're so gonna do 5 to show you up'.
08:28.26NivFreakgdi
08:28.32NivFreakthey fixed the iceskin sentries
08:28.38NivFreakI can't skill weapons on them =/
08:30.17Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Elkano * r85 / (3 files in 2 directories): [dataminer][CurrencyItems] added tons of new items
08:31.15orionshockeh?
08:32.42Repo10handy-notes_flight-masters: 03Xinhuan * r70 HandyNotes_FlightMasters.lua:
08:32.43RepoRevert the continent change as it does look a bit silly after all.
08:33.13Repo10handy-notes_flight-masters: 03Xinhuan 04v1.0.2 * r71 : Tag v1.0.2, now with Northrend data!
08:35.36Repo10onebag3: 03Kaelten * r61 / (3 files in 2 directories): beginnings of simple sorting plugin
08:35.37Repomostly functional plugin harness
08:35.43Elkanoorionshock, "eh?" as in "eh?"?
08:36.01orionshockya...
08:36.12orionshockwaiting for tek to publish his northrend guides...
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08:37.10Elkanoanyways, now comes the hard work... wotlk instance data for PT3.1
08:37.37Elkanowhile keeping an eye on the clock in order to log in the second the servers go up to get the Dalaran books
08:37.43SlaymanElkano: you have a way to extract that from wowhead oder wowdb?
08:37.59orionshockwhy? tbh only like what? 4 mods use that data and 1 player isn't ever going to use all 4 of them at the same time
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08:38.32manywhich books
08:38.44doom0rwhy would they be up then Elkano?
08:38.46ElkanoSlayman, that's what we have been doing for month ^^
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08:43.31Brunerswhy cant it be possible to promote party members to mark :S
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08:46.55Groktarhttp://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/11/17/128714311177315353.jpg
08:48.24`Zypheryohoho
08:48.57Groktareyes `Zypher warily
08:49.48SlaymanI y3 ICHCB
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08:50.43Slaymans/y/</
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08:56.28Slaymanpurl, i love you
08:56.29purlYou love you?
08:56.43Slayman~love
08:56.44purlBABY DON'T HURT ME, DON'T HURT ME, NO MORE
08:56.53Slayman~haddaway
08:57.09Slaymanpurl, you idiot
08:57.16`ZypherGroktar: I'm just happy
08:57.21`Zypheri figured out how to make welcome
08:57.22`Zypherinto
08:57.31`Zypherw
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08:57.33`Zypherl
08:57.34`Zypherc
08:57.35`Zyphero
08:57.37`Zypherm
08:57.40`Zypher:)
08:57.46`Zypher+e
08:57.47`Zypherlol
08:58.09SlaymanZypher was kicked by channeladmin 4 spam
08:58.26`Zypherpretty much
08:59.00Slaymanpurl ,kick `Zypher
08:59.01purlACTION kicks `Zypher
08:59.18`Zypher~whalebomb Slayman
08:59.19purlACTION throws an explosive whale named Gunter at Slayman and hides.
08:59.23`Zypherdon't get me started
09:00.59Slayman~whaleparry Slayman
09:01.00purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Slayman's attacks.
09:01.09Slaymandamnit
09:01.20Slaymanthat was not the one where you must your own name
09:01.28Slayman~whaledodge Slayman
09:01.29purl15 whales teleport around slayman, protecting slayman from any harm as a result of Slayman's actions
09:01.49Slaymanha zypher gotcha
09:02.15Slaymanmy own actions do not hurt me! so noone can hurt me anymore!
09:03.17`Zypher~lart Slayman
09:03.17purlblames Slayman for all the evil in the world
09:03.29Zhinjiodoom0r: any luck?
09:03.37doom0rsomeone make a HN_Placestocook
09:03.46doom0rhaven't got it yet
09:03.52doom0rwas farming mats for leveling inscription
09:03.54Zhinjiok
09:04.06doom0rnow i'm going through the thousands of food in my mailbox to level cooking, heh
09:04.19doom0rsoon as i find fire in sw
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09:06.53Repo10range-display: 03q09q09 * r210 localizations (2 files in 1 directory): update chinese zhCN&zhTW
09:07.36Repo10benecast: 03Wintrow2 * r121 LibHandyHelper.lua: Update to table-copy functions:
09:07.36RepoNo deep copy of WoW widgets
09:09.22quiescensmm
09:09.25doom0rheh, 97 brilliant smallfish got me 75 cooking on the money
09:09.25quiescensplacestocook
09:09.58quiescenstime to go learn 150 cooking
09:10.24doom0rnah, i did it next to the trainer
09:10.28doom0ralready there
09:11.19Repo10grid: 03Pastamancer 07unitguid * r1065 GridStatusName.lua:
09:11.20RepoUpdate unit and pet name when a unit enters/leaves a vehicle.
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09:15.02evlIs it possible to figure out what faction a merchant is associated with via LUA?
09:15.13krkaevl: Lua is actually a portuguese word and it means "moon" ^_^
09:15.41evlkrka: go to bot hell.
09:16.31krkaevl: I am not a bot.
09:16.45evlHow do I know that
09:17.05evlThere's a lot of bots named Karlsson
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09:17.44Repo10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio * r28 / (2 files in 2 directories): - fixed lifebloom
09:17.45Repo- text is blank when not enabled
09:17.46Repo- hit/crit in text if enabled
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09:20.07HjalteIsn't it against the rules to replace sounds files in the wow installation, like for example the fishing sound?
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09:26.52TorhalZhinjio: Can you PM me with code to replicate the texture problem in LibQTip?
09:28.26doom0rmy death knight is a lunch lady
09:29.39quiescensno background check eh
09:29.50doom0rlol
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09:34.54ZhinjioTorhal: give me a few, ok?
09:35.35TorhalZhinjio: Definitely. I just woke up after two hours of sleep, wasn't planning on anything immediate by any means :)
09:35.47TorhalProbably gonna crash again if I can
09:35.55TorhalGotta get ready for work in less than 2 hours
09:36.06Zhinjiook
09:36.16ZhinjioI'm trying to do some additional verification of libraries and such right now
09:36.22TorhalCool
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09:47.56doom0r136 fish on a green skill got me 16 points =\
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09:55.00Zhinjioquestion regarding libcallbackhandler and libstub...
09:55.28Zhinjiofrom what I understand, these should just always be included in addons, not embedded/disembedded.
09:55.33cncfanaticsWTB realms back up
09:55.43Zhinjiois that right?
09:55.54ZhinjioI mean, in addons that use them, obviously
09:56.17evlThe new Darkmoon cards, they are created by Inscription only and it's random what card you get?
09:56.17cncfanaticsit can be disembedded afaik
09:56.24cncfanaticsevl: yes
09:56.26Zhinjioyse, true.
09:56.35evlThat is just insane
09:56.44Zhinjiobut I thought the prevailing advice was to just include them hardwired isntead
09:56.45Zhinjiono?
09:57.03ZhinjioI could be dreaming this up, I suppose
09:57.04TorhalIt is
09:57.58cncfanaticsZhinjio: indeed it is
09:58.03Zhinjiooh wait... thats for libraries only?
09:58.30Zhinjioand normal addons can just embed it like any other library?
09:58.32chexsum_include them everywhere and link from the main .toc
09:58.32Zhinjiochrist.
09:58.44Zhinjiowtb a library author that can actually write comprehensible docs
09:59.12Elkanook, I'm out then
09:59.15Zhinjiohahaha
09:59.17Zhinjioyeah
09:59.21Zhinjiome too, probably
09:59.24NeoTronso we doubled our raid dps since last week pretty much, clearing naxx + the pvp boss in about 4 hrs (10 man)
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10:00.16ElkanoZhinjio, in theory with the existence of standalone versions for CBH and LS, you can embed them again
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10:00.30Belazorwhere do I go to request removal of a comment from one of my mods?
10:01.08ZhinjioBelazor: can you be more specific?
10:01.18ZhinjioElkano: ok.
10:01.32BelazorSomebody posted a comment to one of my mods on Curse, and I'd like to request the comment deleted.
10:01.52Zhinjioplease provide a link or the addon name
10:01.56Belazorhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/cryolysis3.aspx#358748
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10:02.42BelazorThe mod he's linking is the same style of mod as mine, so it's a clear attempt at "stealing users" and adds nothing constructive
10:04.24Zhinjioyou'll need to ping Kaelten or ckknight either here or in #curseforge tomorrow once they've awoken
10:04.36Belazormk, I'll do that then, thanks :)
10:05.52ZhinjioTorhal: I'm currently pulling.. uh ...
10:06.01Zhinjiomainline/tags/v1.0/LibQTip-1.0
10:06.03Belazorit's 4 AM their time now, no wonder they're not awake XD
10:06.17Zhinjiois that the right one with Adirelle's latest fixes?
10:07.59doom0rthere's an identical comment on Arcanum pointing to Cryo
10:08.21Zhinjiooh ffs.
10:08.33Zhinjiowhy can't pkgmeta parse a fucking tab character.
10:08.46Brunersaddon wars season 3 ? :P
10:08.46doom0rsounds like someoen reacting to what they thought was the same thing Belazor
10:09.31Repo10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio * r30 / (2 files in 1 directory): - attempt to fix some embedding issues #1
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10:10.08TorhalZhinjio: r43 is latest
10:10.28Zhinjiook... I'll manually package that in shortly to see if it does the trick
10:10.43Belazordoom0r: maybe so, it just sounded like something a less than decent author would say =p
10:11.05doom0rprobably is the case
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10:11.27Belazorthe comment on Arcanum wasn't made by me or Paene though so our asses are in the clear there :p
10:11.28doom0rlike i said, sounds like they took offense to some random person's comment and are being a little kid about it
10:11.55Belazoroh I see, I thought you meant "the same mod", not retaliation
10:12.40doom0rno, it is retaliation
10:12.42doom0rlook here
10:12.44doom0rhttp://wow.curse.com/members/Tuvaofnordrassil.aspx
10:13.01doom0rlook at the comments made on the profile of the person that made a comment on arcanum pointing to cryo in the first place
10:13.05doom0rit's little baby crap
10:13.25doom0rinstead of getting the comment deleted, they're playing games
10:13.31Elkanook, dataminer for WotLK instances started :)
10:13.35Torhaldoom0r: Are you insulting babies again?
10:13.49Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r86 / (4 files in 4 directories): -- More quest items
10:13.50Repo-- Move some sushi from inedible to edible.
10:13.51doom0rwhy not?
10:13.56doom0rthey turn into rugrats
10:13.59TorhalHeh
10:14.00doom0rit only gets worse
10:14.02Zhinjioso why am I getting an error from LDB-1.1 indicating it requiresd CBH.
10:14.11Zhinjioshouldn't it have its own copy of that infused?
10:14.14TorhalCBH should load first
10:14.18TorhalNo
10:14.27doom0rBelazor: i would send a pm with the links to that, so it all gets taken care of
10:14.35doom0rincluding the profile comments
10:15.24Belazorya I will, I'll bug Kaelten at more decent hours his time :) thanks ^^
10:15.30Zhinjioah, I had it reversed in my embeds.xml
10:15.34Zhinjiotrying again
10:15.39BrunersBelazor: why even care about it really?
10:16.12Zhinjionope, that didn't fix it. hmm
10:16.23doom0ri would say, who cares also, but it's obvious someone is being spiteful Bruners
10:16.40Zhinjio*sighs*
10:16.42Zhinjiotypo
10:19.19Cheadsbah extended maintenance till 12:30 =(
10:19.22HjalteHmm, longer EU downtime. I am crossing my fingers, hoping that Blizzard is trying to solve the massive lag issues... But I just don't think so :(
10:19.31EthanCentaurai~wowalert
10:19.32purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
10:19.44Brunersno lag issues on my server
10:19.48Repo10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio * r31 / (2 files in 1 directory): - fixed cbh typo and order
10:19.49Repo- added ace3gui
10:20.21HjalteBruners: None on mine either, except for when in a 25-man raid and in a bossfight. Then everyones fps drops to at least below 10.
10:20.50Brunersonly done 10 man
10:21.57HjalteBruners: It's really bad and it's happening to everyone in the raid. I really doubt it's an addon problem, hence making it a Blizzard problem. Which is kind of a bad thing.
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10:22.38evlI've had my share of UI problems since 3.0
10:22.56evlLike... player frame disappearing when entering a vehicle or in the middle of a combat, or main menu bar doing the same
10:23.06Brunersi have had close to zero, except for self made ones
10:23.27evlI wish it was my own crap but I don't really have PlayerFrame:Hide() anywhere :P
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10:23.39Hjalteevl: Haven't experienced any of that either. Wrath has been a good experience for me, except for that horrible 25-man lag.
10:24.01evlI wonder how I can catch stuff like that
10:24.20SkellumPower Auras question, I keep getting an error about GetPlayerBuff(Nil Value) I have people telling me it works for them, and that its a great mod. I'd like to try it out but I keep getting that error and it isnt working for me. Any idea how i can not get that error?
10:24.28SkellumIt doesnt seem to be a frequently updated mod
10:25.13Repo10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio 042.1-release * r32 : Tagging as 2.1-release
10:25.28Zhinjiook, all libs in that one sorted. next...
10:25.52HjalteThis is a wild shot, are you using a buff addon, which is moving or doing something to the buff frame Skellum?
10:25.55SkellumOr is there like...a 3.0 updated power auras I should be looking for? Possibly with a diff name?
10:26.00SkellumElk Buff bars
10:26.08HjalteTry turning that off
10:27.06Brunershad some errors with elkbuffbars
10:27.58Repo10extractor: 03Zhinjio * r8 / (3 files in 1 directory): - embeds fixes
10:28.01SkellumMmm, I kinda like it, though recently I've really had to filter a lot of buffs with how many you get in a raid now
10:28.58Grumok who is still keeping the EU servers down? stop biting that networkcable!
10:29.08quiescenspoints -->
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10:29.31Skellum".\AddOns\PowerAuras\PowerAuras.lua line 669:
10:29.31Skellum<PROTECTED>
10:30.10Skellumthankfully doesnt seem to be elk
10:31.08doom0rsorry Grum, Groktar got off his leash again
10:31.33Grumwhat did i tell you! tuesdays before bedtime .... tranq shots!
10:33.10Zhinjiook, Torhal ... testing with that version now
10:33.41Zhinjioyeah, confirmed still broken in r43
10:34.19Zeksieanyone know chinese? Most languages use K to denote thousands. and then M to denote millions.. Chinese use W to denote 10's of thousands instead.. What do the use after this for (I assume) 10,000 thousand ?
10:36.13Zeksiemmm. no. if 10,000 = 1W, then 100,000,000 = 1? (what) :)
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10:36.43GrumWW? :p
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10:36.54Grumw^2!
10:36.57MegalonWT i think
10:37.00Megalonand 10^12
10:37.02Megalonbecomes WTF
10:37.04Megalon:<
10:37.07Skellumheh
10:37.19Grumi was going for WWW :p
10:37.35Skellumww2?
10:37.44Zeksieheh
10:37.55Grumanyhow; Groktar just made the realms stay offline for another hour!
10:37.58GrumBAD PUPPEH!
10:38.08doom0rZhinjio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_numerals
10:38.09Zeksiethanks. was looking for someone to blame!
10:38.16doom0rmeh, fail
10:38.21doom0rZeksie: see above
10:38.22Zeksiedoom0r: thx
10:38.34doom0rsorry Zhinjio
10:38.49Grumhahah!
10:38.52Grumi was right; wanwan! :P
10:39.45Repo10extractor: 03Zhinjio * r9 / (2 files in 1 directory): - lib fixes
10:39.46Repo- tooltip width fix on ore2
10:40.41Zhinjiodoom0r: why do I want to know about chinese numerals?
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10:40.50doom0ryou probably don't :P
10:41.09Grumi wouldnt even add complexity to handle that btw
10:41.12ZhinjioI have enough trouble with roman ones I'm suppose to know
10:41.19Zeksieyeha Grum, looks like it'll be WW :)
10:41.20Grummost other addons dont and you'd be just messing with their heads
10:41.35doom0rbtw, i think that'll work decently for choosing what to display Zhinjio
10:41.44Zhinjiook, great.
10:41.45EthanCentauraihttp://static.wowhead.com/images/comic/002.jpg win :D
10:41.49doom0rbut!
10:41.51Zhinjiomost people only want one or so at a time
10:41.52Grumbtw; there is no mob with 100million hp afaik
10:42.21doom0rif you've ever used broker_itemrack Zhinjio, you could have soemthing similar, right click for config, left click to cycle
10:42.24Zeksieno Grum, and but I had to put the code in anyway.
10:42.36Grumwhat addon btw?
10:42.46Zhinjiodoom0r: I haven't... but yeah, I can look into that.
10:43.07Repo10extractor: 03Zhinjio 041.1-beta * r10 : Tagging as 1.1-beta
10:43.10ZeksieX-Perl... we did Sapph last nite and I had to adjust the HP display so that it didn't truncate the string. 13 million hp, even shown as K was too big :)
10:43.55Zeksieso now it'll do M too, and will also adjust the suffix of the current HP too... so 12345/13.0M, or 123.4K/13.0M.. depending on it's health etc..
10:44.09manyZeksie: http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Chinese-numerals
10:44.15Skellumsapphs a fun fight as a lock
10:44.42manyah
10:44.52manywikipedia had it too
10:45.00Repo10broker-tradecooldowns: 03Zhinjio * r21 / (2 files in 1 directory): - embeds fixes
10:45.26Zeksieyeh. Thx many. That confirms it thou. thx ;)
10:45.32GrumSkellum: why specifically as a lock?
10:45.34doom0rZeksie: using the health sort on mobs on wowhead, only even shows 4 above 9 million
10:45.37doom0rso probably not
10:45.54doom0rthink you'll be safe a while
10:46.00Zeksieyeh :)
10:46.03manyless complete, though :-)
10:46.23manyi would have thought the second one was a copy of wp, as it is common nowadays
10:46.31Zeksiefor them sapph should show as erm, 1300.0W I guess.
10:46.58Zeksieyay @ servers
10:47.04manyas a sidefact, 10^4 had its own term back in the greek days
10:47.08manymyriad. :)
10:47.21SkellumWhy are you putting the HP in chinese ending thingys?
10:47.53doom0rcause some people use chinese?
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10:47.58Zeksiein Chinese localization file.. I have a largeNumDiv and a largeNumTag.. for most of us that's just 1000 and "K", but for them it's 10000 and "W"
10:47.59Skellumlies
10:48.04Skellumahhhh
10:48.21manyi wonder if they did not atleast recently learn SI prefixes
10:48.22Zeksienow, I've added hugeNum*** too, for the millions
10:48.41manyfuckingLargeNum? :)
10:48.48manyruns
10:49.30ElkanoZeksie, Japanese is also based on 10000 iirc
10:49.59Zeksiesure. but we don't have Japanese localizations... :)
10:50.06manyand korea, so says the page.
10:50.10doom0r27 members in my alt guild, 16 are mine, lol
10:50.20Repo10itemprice-1-1: 03Arrowmaster * r58 ItemPrice-1.1.lua: Update with 553 new item prices
10:50.57Arrowmaster30141 prices! broke 3k!
10:51.13Cheadstag it! =)
10:51.14manydoom0r: you got too much time if you have 2 accts
10:51.25doom0rlol, no
10:51.27Arrowmasterits a library
10:51.27manyor too much money.
10:51.46Grum5 accounts here ><
10:51.49doom0rmy paladin is an enchanter, so he's on another account
10:51.58doom0ri wish i had 5
10:52.02manyoO
10:52.26manysaw an extreme multiboxxer the other day. you wouldnt have recognized its 5 chars running around if you didnt look closely
10:53.16SunTsumany: Hehe, had that on the weekend when 5 shamans on mounts passed me by like a single one
10:53.38manydruids. shapeshifted to travel form then, instantly, all 5.
10:54.10Repo10banana-dkp: 03Rabbit * r123 BananaDKP.lua: Elixirs, Flasks and loot ignore list updated for WotLK.
10:54.40ElkanoArrowmaster, do you still mine from cache files?
10:54.51Arrowmasteryeah
10:55.17Arrowmasterthe armory probably hasnt gotten enough stuff on it yet to be worthwhile
10:57.14Zhinjiocrap
10:57.18ZhinjioI was afraid of that
10:57.44Zhinjiocharacter's skills aren't available yet at OnEnable
11:01.41ElkanoArrowmaster, shall I snd you mine?
11:01.56Arrowmasterdo you think you have a lot in yours?
11:01.58evleu up
11:02.21Arrowmastermines just under 7mb
11:04.48Elkanomine is 6.5
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11:04.58Elkano13.7k items
11:05.21Arrowmasterif you want ill try running it
11:05.52doom0rmines at 7.2
11:05.56Megalon7.3 and 7.6mb
11:06.21Megalonengb/dede :x
11:08.17Gruma new epeen achievement! get your itemcache above 7.5mb!
11:08.27doom0rtrying to find the icon i want in the gbank tab icon selector makes me want to go into a furious rage destroying everything in site
11:10.46Grumyeah that 4x4 window with 5 million icons in it is ftl
11:11.30Megalonthe same with macro icons when you don't wanna use the '?' :|
11:13.15Grumthere is an addon for that one
11:13.20Repo10broker-tradecooldowns: 03Zhinjio * r22 Broker_TradeCooldowns.lua: - fixed embeds
11:13.20Repo- fixed skill scanning on initial load
11:13.21GrumBiggerMacrosomethingsomething
11:13.24GrumXinhuan made it :D
11:13.41Xinhuanhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11189-LargerMacroIconSelection.html
11:13.46Grumsee!
11:13.55GrumXinhuan: make one for the guildtab!
11:14.00Xinhuancbf
11:14.04Xinhuan(even though i'm the gleader)
11:14.34Repo10broker-tradecooldowns: 03Zhinjio 041.7-release * r23 : Tagging as 1.7-release
11:16.15sztanphetmitch0 cooldowntogo regularly gives errors on mounting and shit about the correct use of a function i cant correctly remember right now
11:16.17Repo10unicode-font: 03Whitetooth * r37 UnicodeFont.lua: - MailFont now uses UnicodeFont
11:16.36sztanphetill write it down, sec
11:17.16Repo10accomplishment: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.0.3-release-5-g80344d1 Core.lua: [+1 commit] Add what could become dynamic frame resizing. Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p).
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11:19.12EthanCentauraiis the new Ackis.
11:19.34sztanphetdrycode wise?
11:20.11EthanCentauraiwell I need to use something while I wait for Groktar to replace the network cabling he ate :)
11:20.52Elkanook, it seems I finaly fixed Enchantig support for Mendeleev <3
11:21.07EthanCentauraiinvestigates
11:29.25Repo10mendeleev: 03Elkano * r236 / (4 files in 2 directories): - added T7 sets
11:29.26Repo- added Enchanting support
11:29.26Repo- added support enchants like Fur Lining
11:29.28Repo- removed Naxxramas from Classic_high
11:32.04HjalteOh, seems like someone should push a new beta or release of mendeleev soon :)
11:32.17Repo10craftygnome: 03Rabbit * r58 CraftyGnome.lua: Bugfix.
11:33.14Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Elkano * r87 / (4 files in 3 directories):
11:33.15Repo[InstanceLoot][InstanceLootHeroic] added data for the WotLK instances
11:33.38ElkanoHjalte, but first I'll add the instances ^^
11:33.45HjalteElkano: <3
11:33.55Skellumwhat mod is that?
11:34.11SkellumOh
11:34.12SkellumAnd
11:34.18SkellumI loves your buff bars :3
11:34.24SkellumI loves them hard
11:34.30SkellumThanks!
11:35.39SlaymanSkellum: i h8 them
11:35.50SkellumWhat do you use instead?
11:36.03Slaymanthey are WAY too awesome, you have no choice but to use 'em
11:36.30Slaymanonce you get the hang of the config which is rather stacked in my opinion
11:37.28ElkanoSlayman, I'm a CS student, I suck at GUI ^^
11:38.18SlaymanElkano: yeah well, your config keeps me on my toes, but as with all dewdrops do NOT leave the window or you'll have to go all the way again ^^
11:44.34Kuja^Toadkiller: hmm any idea why my class buffs don't show anymore, totems are there, just the class buffs are gone
11:45.02SlaymanElkano: yesterday i tried to make my targets debuffs into EBBs with the twist that certain, selfcast buffs & debuffs stay closest and are not shuffled around that much, so i made 2 frames naturally then i wanted to stick one of those to the other, and well i moved it towards the first and it snapped in position, THAT IS GENIUS! all hail the Elkano
11:54.14Elkano<3 regex
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11:56.15doom0ri don't suppose anyones ever came across something that autorefills chars money to a set amount from the gbank?
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11:57.43Elkanook, normal mode should be in for testing... now to see which strings are missing from Babble
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11:59.30Elkanowow, only 3
12:01.37SkellumHrm
12:01.37Skellumhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uZr3JWYdy8
12:01.49SkellumWhat are you testing elk?
12:02.16ElkanoMendeleev support for the new instances
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12:03.30Zhinjioholy crap. OPie is pretty freaking sexy
12:06.30TorhalYes, it is
12:06.59TorhalI use it to replace a bunch of stuff I had on actionbars :)
12:07.01Maldiviaopiates?
12:08.19Zhinjioyeah, I'm gonna play with it more tomorrow when I wake up
12:09.24TorhalElkano: Are you gonna up the TOC for SharedMedia, for the folks who don't know how to do so themselves? :)
12:10.10doom0ris anything unique while in a gbank?
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12:19.38asmodaidoom0r: In the never ending quest for weird stuff: http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/cas/941491075.html
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12:21.53Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Elkano * r88 / (2 files in 2 directories): [InstanceLootHeroic] added two heroic-only bosses
12:22.15doom0r.
12:22.46asmodaidoom0r: indeed.
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12:32.02ToadkillerKuja^: What version?
12:32.34Kuja^Revision: 695
12:35.16Elkanook, testing heroic now <3
12:36.18ToadkillerKuja^: Pretty sure that rev is in the future?
12:36.57Kuja^wait no, svn info seems to be retarded, its 693
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12:37.25Toadkillerok what class are you?
12:37.37Kuja^shaman
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12:45.58Repo10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Elkano * r135 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: added 3 bosses to base:
12:45.59Repo- Amanitar (Ahn'kahet: The Old Kingdom / heroic only)
12:46.00Repo- Commander Stoutbeard (The Nexus / heroic only)
12:46.01Repo- Archavon the Stone Watcher (Wintergrasp / Vault of Archavon)
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12:46.28Repo10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03Elkano * r149 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: added 1 instance to base: Vault of Archavon
12:47.00Repo10mendeleev: 03Elkano * r237 Set_Instances_WotLK.lua: added loot sets for WotLK instances
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12:48.47Shotbah
12:48.55Shotless haste on gear plase blizz!
12:49.15digmousemore hit
12:49.28Shotless armour penetration too
12:49.29Kalrothmore str and crit!
12:49.41digmousebliz is doing what they did to BC
12:49.49digmouseno hit in starting raid set
12:49.54digmouselots of hit in 2nd
12:49.57Shotand a passive ability that converts weapon dps to defense rating would be nice
12:50.12digmousethink about tier 4 and tier 5
12:50.26SkellumHit takes a bit to find
12:50.33Skellumbut once you find it you've found it
12:50.35Shotit'd be nice if haste simply lowered rune cooldowns - then it would actually be really useful
12:50.52SkellumBefore regularly downing malyg and such actualy finding hit was a pain
12:50.56digmousehunters dont care about hit much lol
12:51.04SkellumWarlocks care about hit
12:51.17digmouseye, so, that really matters about DPS
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12:53.06SkellumI hope the next content patch fixes professions
12:53.11SkellumThey're pretty god awful atm
12:53.22Shothow?
12:53.37SkellumTry tailoring
12:53.41Elkanook, Mendleev 3.0-beta4 is now live on Curse. Enjoy :)
12:53.46Skellumhuzza :D
12:53.57SkellumNone of the embroideries are better then the 23 haste enchant
12:54.09SkellumThere is no point at all to being 450. Nothing becomes avaliable for crafting
12:54.19SkellumAnd none of the crafted gear is better then 10 man ilvl 200 items
12:55.14Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r696 AutoBarCategory.lua:
12:55.15Repo-- Remove obsolete Paladin Class Buffs.  This fixes the Class Buff Button issues.
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12:58.46ToadkillerKuja^: That should do the trick
13:00.12Kuja^yeah works now, thanks
13:00.24asmodaiMy shaman doesn't care too much about hit, crit's nicer :D
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13:10.44SunTsuasmodai: So he does not hit often, BUT WHEN HE HITS! ;)
13:11.50asmodai;)
13:11.52asmodaiindeed
13:12.14asmodaiBut my damage is only like 30% white damage anyway
13:12.25asmodaiThe rest is all my spells and temporary weapon enchants and whatnot.
13:12.56SunTsuasmodai: Yeah, but styles have to hit, too, so basically soft hit cap is what matters to you, which lies around 9%, IIRC
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13:13.27Repo- Update locale koKR
13:13.57asmodaiSunTsu: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Thunderhorn&n=Dionise  -- guess I need to oomph my +hit then
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13:17.31SunTsuasmodai: Yeah, because you are wasting crits by not hitting. Which of course only counts for Bossmobs
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13:18.00asmodaiSunTsu: Might explain why my DPS is still lacking compared to, say, mages and dks
13:18.15digmousecrits wont benefit who do not have enough hit
13:18.28asmodai(but still, for my first main highlevel toon, I'm doing decently versus a lot of other people)
13:18.47digmousethe problem is the damage definition counts hit first, then count crit based on the hit
13:18.52SunTsuasmodai: Yeah, just get to soft hitcap and you'll excell ;)
13:18.59digmouseso crit is the secound round in the table
13:19.12digmouseso if you miss, your crit means nothing
13:20.30asmodaiOK, so I think I understand the whole attack table, with hit, miss, crit and how it pushes certain categories out if you maximize hit or crit, but what's the difference between soft and hard cap?
13:21.06SunTsuasmodai: as digmouse says, it's two-roll. At first it is rolled whether you hit and then on the next roll the crit chance is rolled on all hits you had.
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13:21.33SunTsuasmodai: soft hit cap is the point where styles won't miss. Hard hitcap is where no hit will miss
13:21.55digmouseand hit, basically, a question of lucks
13:21.57sacarascasmodai: you have more hit rating than my shaman and she does ok
13:22.26digmousesome hunters get several misses with 150 hit in SWP and some others get none at 120
13:23.15asmodaiSunTsu: What's a style though?
13:23.43SunTsuasmodai: In your case shocks, lava lash, etc
13:23.50asmodaiah
13:24.09digmouseabilities other than normal swing and auto-shots
13:24.11asmodaiGeneric term for that which causes yellow damage?
13:24.29digmouseye, basically "Ability Damage"
13:24.30SunTsuasmodai: Anything you need to do an action for
13:24.45SunTsuBesides starting auto attack
13:26.20SunTsusacarasc: Of course he is doing OK, but in his case hit > crit definitively, because crits are wasted by not missing
13:26.43SunTsu.o0( All speaking of boss mobs, of course )
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13:27.20asmodaiAh ok, gotcha
13:27.49asmodaiI'll try to focus my gear on +agi, +int, +hit and +crit ;)
13:29.29SunTsuasmodai: I'd go for hit > agi > int > crit, because agi is used for crit and shamanistic rage makes up a low mana pool
13:30.18SunTsus/up a/up for a/
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13:31.43Cheadscapping expertise is also needed
13:34.14Mikkyeah enh shaman stat weights are funky now
13:34.28Mikkhalf the time caster cloth is better than melee gear
13:34.33Mikk(due to hit & crit & int)
13:35.00Mikk(and spelldmg to some extent)
13:35.32Mikk(but mostly the hit)
13:35.35Mikklikes parenthesis
13:35.40sdouble(hello)
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13:43.48Mikkhmmmm
13:43.58Mikkcould it be that WoW doesn't let you register an event handler for an event that is currently firing?
13:44.43MikkI'm firing up my addon via AddonLoader on GOSSIP_SHOW
13:44.59MikkAnd the addon itself also registers for GOSSIP_SHOW (for the next time it happens)
13:45.04MikkBut it never seems to get registered
13:48.27MikkHuhu, it seems to dislike it recursively too
13:48.48MikkGOSSIP_SHOW -> LoadAddOn -> ADDON_LOADED -> Try registering for GOSSIP_SHOW here, but it still won't happen
13:49.51MikkI don't get it. That should cause Postal to break too, but it doesn't.
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13:51.10MegalonMikk: does it not register for GOSSIP_SHOW, or does it just not fire on the event when it gets loaded first?
13:51.26asmodaiSunTsu: mmm, things to think about then :)
13:51.30asmodaiMikk: I guess you love lisp :)
13:52.53SunTsuasmodai: Yeah, because more hit makes shamanistic rage more effective :)
13:53.25SunTsuThe more you hit the more mana you gain
13:53.48MikkMegalon: My Register call appears to not "take". I of course have a call from my addonloader directives for the first time.
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13:54.09MikkI.e. it works fine the first time I click the NPC
13:54.11MikkBut not after that
13:54.31Mikk_BUT_ if I manually LoadAddOn("Finklestein"), the event gets registered just fine
13:54.36MikkAnd reacts every time I click the NPC
13:55.04MikkAND if I _do_ get it loaded via addonloader, and manually /script FinklesteinFrame:RegisterEvent("GOSSIP_SHOW"), it starts working after that
13:55.18MikkI also tried now to move the register call to GOSSIP_CLOSE just for the hell of it, and that worked too
13:55.32MikkBut if I have it in the root of the file, or in ADDON_LOADED -> no go.
13:56.49Megalonwtf, that is pretty weird :C
13:57.01MikkThis appears to be speshul for GOSSIP_SHOW though. Postal does the same with MAIL_SHOW and that seems to work.
13:57.02Finhttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iaod9_k8h5Y&fmt=18
13:57.10MikkHm, I'll write up a mini testcase
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14:29.50Repo10squire: 03Adirelle * r44 / (2 files in 1 directory):
14:29.51RepoUpdated the dataminer to properly detect very fast mammoths, rugs, rides and sets of wheels...
14:29.52RepoRan the dataminer to update mount data.
14:36.57Repo10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r11 / (2 files in 2 directories): -add option for vertical icon orientation
14:36.58Repo-add ability to track points for vehicles (Malygos phase 3 for example)
14:36.58Repo-add more sizing options for the text component
14:37.02Repo(all drycoded and untested so far)
14:39.50Repo10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r12 Core.lua: one more tweak to font size option
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14:42.41harlhallo
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14:57.48doom0ri need a pve combat spec
14:59.09doom0rfor swords /cry
14:59.53Josh_Borkepve is over-rated, jsut delete your char and play a new gaem
15:00.08Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1786 / (3 files in 3 directories): Naxxramas update, 10 man done, 25 man up to Faerlina
15:00.22doom0rsolo grinding
15:00.28doom0ri see the rogue as a utility
15:00.30doom0rnothing more
15:00.49doom0ri need to level it to be able to make use of said utilities
15:01.23doom0rpeople's definitions of pve vary ;x
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15:11.54evlI keep getting "Interface action blocked by an addon" but I can't locate the error, it keeps making my playerframe disappear, is there anything more verbose than /console taintLog 1?
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15:23.21DeviadHi everyone!
15:23.34DeviadIs there any update for Quartz? It makes WOW lag
15:24.46doom0rwhen, how, on what? don't say p3 ;P
15:25.12Deviadp3?
15:25.24doom0rpentium3
15:25.36DeviadQuadcore 9550
15:25.44DeviadWindows Vista ultimate all the drivers are ok
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15:25.57DeviadX4870X2
15:25.59Deviad^^
15:26.01doom0rmust be something whack, or an old messed up verion?
15:26.04Deviad4GB RAM
15:26.17DeviadInstalled it via curse client
15:26.20doom0ryou've completely isolated that?
15:26.41Deviadwell, it is the only thing that comes into my mind that can make it lag
15:26.50Deviadmore than a general lag
15:26.55Deviadit's like lag spikes
15:27.01doom0r....
15:27.07Deviadsometimes when I press a button on my action bar
15:27.08Deviadlike mount
15:27.12Deviador cast frostbolt
15:27.20DeviadI don't even get the animation!
15:27.36Deviadand the quartz casting bar doesn't pop up
15:27.40doom0rhave you turned everything else off and tried it?
15:27.46DeviadI can do it
15:27.57Deviadbut it's pretty weird that when that happens the casting bar doesn't appear
15:28.11DeviadI'll give that a shot though
15:28.37doom0rand make sure you're using a skin that comes with it to test
15:28.45DeviadI set the interrupt in the connection adapter settings
15:28.52Deviadas sometimes ago I had a problem with that
15:28.58Jyggaawouldnt it be great to have pawn calculate the rating for all viable stats taking the current value in account?
15:29.02Deviadand tried to make the buffer wider
15:29.25Deviaddoom0r, quartz is at default
15:29.29doom0ri've never messed with a stat weight prog
15:29.54Jyggabeeing an enhancement shaman thats a must ^^
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15:31.12Jyggaits a bit of a pain to use the sim all the time tho ...
15:32.03Jyggahm ill try to hack it into pawn for now, lets see if it works as expected :)
15:32.32doom0romg, this is hilarious
15:32.34doom0rhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11819-FailBot.html
15:33.11Jyggaoh the fun ^^
15:33.30Jyggai remember the 14 haegan tries as beeing a fun thing tho
15:33.55Jyggait took us 14 tries and in the last try there was still a mage toasted ^^
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15:36.45Kalrothawesome doom0r  
15:36.50Kalrothjust what I was about to make myself :P
15:37.02doom0rsick of dumb people in your raid? ;x
15:37.08Kalrothhell no
15:37.12KalrothI just love making fun of them
15:37.15doom0rlol
15:37.32Pneumatusheh, anyone that needs that for anything other than making fun of people needs to locate the gkick button :P
15:39.09Repo10libbabble-boss-3-0: 037destiny * r137 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: koKR Update
15:40.28doom0r@project failbot
15:40.28Repodoom0r: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/failbot/. FailBot. Game: WoW. Leader: Veev. Updated: 9 hours ago
15:40.30doom0rthere we go
15:40.33doom0rit's there too
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15:49.56Deviaddoom0r, I'm getting this issue right now
15:50.01DeviadI have everything off but quartz
15:50.10DeviadNow I will try with everything off including quartz
15:50.33doom0rwouldn't hurt, considering there was a quad core issue with vista :P
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15:51.44Deviaddoom0r, I'm gonna download Windows server 2008 tonight
15:51.47Deviadfrom msdn :p
15:51.57Deviadmy university has an msdn facilitation for the students
15:53.43doom0ri believe it's mizaru, kikazaru, iwazaru
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15:57.06doom0revl: i just saw Reminders... i like the idea :)
15:57.21evldoom0r; tyty!
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15:58.23doom0rit's like a backend for a user defined tellmewhen
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15:58.44asmodaidoom0r: anata ha nihongo wo hanashimasu ka?
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15:59.34doom0ri'm a screwed by american pride english only fool asmodai
16:00.03doom0rin otherwords, i have no idea what you said
16:00.15doom0ri just know of the saying
16:00.23doom0rrather, image ;x
16:00.59SunTsudoom0r: he spoke japanese
16:01.26doom0rSunTsu: that would be inferred considering that the "saying" is in said language
16:01.44doom0r-09:54:21- [doom0r]: i believe it's mizaru, kikazaru, iwazaru
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16:02.41Repotake out code that limited loading to rogues and druids since there are vehicles that need combo point displays
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16:12.48doom0rasmodai: i guess i answered that indirectly
16:12.51doom0rno :P
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16:13.34Repo- Naxxramas zhCN/zhTW update.
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16:22.16[SW]Dodgesomeone else had the issue that table.sort does not always sort correctly with a custom comp?
16:24.04Grumguess your custom comp doesnt work as you want?
16:24.39[SW]Dodgein most cases it does, but sometimes there is 1 or 2 element in wrong order :/
16:25.17DeviadOk, it looks like I have the same issue without quartz, doom0r
16:25.19Deviadwhat can it be?
16:25.26doom0rwhat i said before
16:25.31doom0rsome quad core issue with vista
16:25.33doom0rand wow
16:25.43doom0ri read about it somewhere, forget where though
16:25.54doom0rwould have to be wowinider, here, or wow forums
16:26.01doom0rwowinsider*
16:26.07Repo10big-wigs: 03ananhaid * r4803 Naxxramas/Sapphiron.lua: BigWigs:
16:26.07Repo- Sapphiron zhCN/zhTW update.
16:26.17doom0rmaybe check the support forums for stickies?
16:26.26DeviadI'll do it now
16:26.38Deviadbut I do not expect to find a solution in there because not many people have a quadcore
16:26.40Deviad:(
16:26.46doom0ryou kiddin?
16:26.52doom0rthat's what all the sales are pushing
16:26.54doom0rthe lower end ones
16:26.59Deviadand blizzard still have to fix the shadow issue with X4870X2 and all the sli configuration as a whole
16:27.13Deviadhas to*
16:27.21doom0rthe only resolution at the time i believe was to not use vista
16:27.32doom0ror it might have been bit specific
16:27.41DeviadBut no vista no Rivatuner
16:27.44doom0rbut i read this a bit ago
16:27.45Deviadfor example
16:27.46Deviad:(
16:27.51doom0rwtf?
16:27.59doom0rthat was around long before vista
16:28.10Deviadyeah you cannot set the clock of 2 cards if you don't have vista
16:28.23doom0rbuy nvidia?
16:28.26doom0rruns
16:28.30Deviadthe author partially dropped the support to windows xp
16:28.36DeviadI use it with my x4870x2 :D
16:28.41Deviadand it's the same with nvidia cards
16:28.51doom0ryou don't need riva with nvidia
16:28.54Deviadit's just the author leaving slowly support to xp as time goes on
16:28.56doom0rlong as the stuff isn't locked
16:29.26doom0rntune and speedfan is all you need
16:29.33doom0r=\
16:30.22Deviadand for overclocking the old coolbits?
16:30.41doom0rthat's what ntune is now
16:30.52Deviadah OK :D
16:31.12DeviadI was getting confused with nHancer
16:31.13doom0rit's all the advanced crap rolled into one package
16:31.16Deviadgreat program that too
16:31.26doom0ri don't need it though
16:31.33doom0ri got a bfg 7900 gs oc
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16:31.57doom0rthat random luck they had with overclocking higher than their predetermined specs
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16:32.09Deviadomg, griding to test this stuff I made like a 10% at lvl 75
16:32.10Deviadhaha
16:32.13doom0rthey went for 525 and got stable at 540 actually :)
16:32.18Deviadso now I kill a mob and I'm 76
16:32.19Deviad:D :D :D
16:32.31DeviadI sold a 8800 GTS
16:32.31doom0rhehe
16:32.38Deviadfor my current x4870x2
16:32.43Deviadcos it was cheaper than gtx280
16:32.54doom0rgtx's were 169 usd at a store out here
16:33.03doom0ri should have bought one
16:33.50DeviadI was going to buy thermal wheels which are good on snow and rain
16:34.03Deviadbut in the end I didn't buy them anymore for my new Samsung i900
16:34.04Deviad^^
16:34.32DeviadI'll put there something like tomtom like on my current e61i :D :D :D
16:34.47DeviadJust that e61i is as big as a brick
16:34.49Deviad:D
16:35.09DeviadI should get it for 350 € instead of 420 €
16:35.10Deviad:P
16:35.13Deviad2 weeks old
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16:35.31doom0ri wish i could afford new hardware
16:35.36doom0rstill using an 8700g
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16:40.57[SW]DodgeGrum: haha found the bug :X i did "(start1+duration1) < (start1+duration2)" the second start1 was wrong :( must be start2 xD
16:41.16Grumsee!
16:41.56DeviadI do I disable the cores of my CPU just to play wow?
16:42.04quiescens1+1=3
16:42.17DeviadIs there any program for that or I have to get in the control panel everytime I need that?
16:42.43Repo10mill-help: 03Starinnia 041.0.7 * r23 : Tagging as 1.0.7
16:43.16doom0rquiescens: that's why i don't go pick up chicks at the bar
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16:47.12GrumDeviad: you could just upgrade to windows xp
16:47.47DeviadGrum, that would be downgrade actually
16:47.48Deviad:D :D :D
16:48.00Grumwould it?
16:48.11quiescensreroll xenix
16:48.24Grumbecause aero makes your windows experience so much more enjoyable?
16:48.39Grumand dont forget that spiffy sidebar
16:49.01Grumor the fact that if you do not turn of all that crap you cant really play windowed
16:49.04Jyggaahm does prat support a complete emote list?
16:49.30Jyggaai miss the menu selectable emote/ voiceemote stuff
16:49.46Jyggaasince they added a ton lately
16:49.50DeviadMy situation is the same as the guy at post 59: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html;jsessionid=E576691DD1C5958C4FD2B237E4486552.app09_04?topicId=1640595174&postId=16400679921&sid=1
16:50.02DeviadGrum, no because rivatuner is a must
16:50.03Deviad:D :D :D
16:50.15Grumbecause?
16:50.16Deviadand because windows xp doesn't install on my RAID :(
16:50.26Deviadit hangs in the middle
16:50.29Deviad:|
16:50.34Grumxp is known for that feature
16:50.46Deviadeven if I feed him the drivers with f6
16:50.54Grumbut why would rivatuner be a must?
16:51.00DeviadI even tried creating a custom ISO with the drivers inside
16:51.16DeviadGrum, because it's the only decent program remained to overclock graphic cards
16:51.17Deviad:D
16:51.27DeviadATI Tray Tools got screwed
16:51.28Grumand you need to overclock your stuff .. why?
16:51.40DeviadGrum, just because I play other games than WOW
16:51.42Deviad:D :D :D
16:51.49Grumquestion remains
16:52.07Grumyou will get a whole whopping 5% more performance?
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16:52.45Grumwhich ofcourse if you need it in order to play means less than 3fps in hard numbers
16:53.05doom0r-10:51:13- [Grum]: xp is known for that feature
16:53.10doom0rperfect wording
16:53.34Grumalso the reason sane people install xp with an old ata cdrom on a single disk
16:53.53Grumeven better; keep all the non-xp data on another disk .. so if it decides to die you can just reinstall without any other work
16:54.06GrumOS on a raid is sortof useless
16:54.31Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Kurax * r1787 Modules/ (3 files in 3 directories): - Update localizations of module(s)
16:54.34Grumthen again with a bloat-os like Vista ... you'd better have some fast disk you boot from
16:54.57DeviadI have 2 seagate 7200.11 with 32 MB cache :D
16:55.07Grumand you cant install xp on it .. congrats
16:55.13Deviadyes
16:55.15Deviad:D :D
16:55.18DeviadReally gratz
16:55.19Repo10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles * r86 InventoryOnPar.lua: InventoryOnPar: -
16:55.20Repominor update to gem routine - needs further work to differentiate between Northrend and Outland gems.
16:55.34Grumnow get yourself a stupid 250gb disk; install XP on it; build your raid next to that; put all the data on it .. and whiiiiiii
16:55.44Deviad:P
16:55.51DeviadBut bye bye rivatuner :( :(
16:56.02DeviadI have to switch to the Ray Adam mastermess :D :D
16:56.05Grumagain; how much performance do you get extra?
16:56.06DeviadAdams*
16:56.18Repo10cooldownbuttons: 03Netrox * r221 branches (4 files in 1 directory): First "usable" alpha =D (ok, let me say pre-alpha^^)
16:56.18Deviadmmmm in crysis quite much
16:56.22Deviad:D
16:56.27Grumnumbers
16:56.34DeviadI overvolted my card :P
16:56.40Repo10questitem: 03Pericles * r21 / (4 files in 1 directory): QuestItem: -
16:56.40Repoupdated todo.txt and the includes/exclues to use a function. This allows for future expansion to allow user specified includes & excludes.
16:56.48Deviadwith a program created by another Italian like me
16:56.49Deviad:D :D :D
16:56.57Deviadhe's just more skilled than me :D :D :D
16:56.59Grumsigh
16:57.11Grumstop cutting and pasting ':D :D :D' everywhere ><
16:57.21DeviadI can start with :P :P :P
16:57.23Deviad:D
16:57.31Mikkneeds op
16:57.36DeviadOK, sorry I won't do that anymore.
16:57.40GrumMikk: iron boot would be better
16:57.41Deviadif it bothers you
16:57.45doom0rdunno if that or ^_^ is worse
16:57.53quiescens^^
16:57.54Deviador O_o
16:57.55Mikk^_^;;;;;
16:57.56Mikkclearly
16:57.59Grumit just makes no sense to do :D :D :D
16:58.01doom0rnope, quiescens won
16:58.12quiescensty
16:58.18Grumits like doing ~~~~~~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ONE1WELWEVENFIFTEEN
16:58.19doom0rthat drives me nuts
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16:58.46Grum^^ <-- that one is cute but can be mistaken for 'i agree with the person above me'
16:59.06quiescens^
16:59.19DeviadDo these problems show up with Windows Server 2008?
16:59.29GrumDeviad: use xp?
16:59.36DeviadI have an MSDN account so I can download it for free along with Visual studio 2005, .net ecc. :D
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16:59.48Grumsorry for you :(
16:59.49Deviada MSDN*
16:59.55Grum<PROTECTED>
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17:00.25DeviadGrum, really, if I install XP I will sell my x4870x2 and I'll buy a gtx280
17:00.42Deviadso, in order not to be tempted to do so because with x4870x2 no rivatuner no overclock
17:00.43doom0rwouldn't that be a smart move regardless?
17:00.48DeviadI wanna try to fix the thing on vista :D :D :D
17:00.58doom0r~lart Deviad
17:00.58purlcuts Deviad into thin stripes
17:01.24doom0rpurl, fix your typos
17:01.25purlACTION opens the hood of your typos , looks inside and says "that'll be 500 dollars."
17:01.46doom0rpurl, you silly shebot
17:01.57Grumagain; why overclock? why ':D :D :D'?
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17:02.22doom0rGrum: he'd only be able to handle one smiley if not =\ =\
17:02.26DeviadGrum, why buying a new computer every 3 years when a new killer app spawns?
17:02.31Grummost overlocks are giving 5% more performance; if you feel you need that you have a FPS of under 60; thus the effect of the overclock will be a mere 3fps .. which is shite
17:02.46DeviadWhy buying a new mobile phone when you realize that tomtom on symbian = suicide? :D
17:02.59Grumi dont do that shit?
17:03.02Grumwaste of money
17:03.05quiescensah but what if someone has an fps of like 3
17:03.09quiescens!
17:03.16Grum0.15 more fps! o m g
17:03.38Grumoverclocking is something kiddos do :)
17:03.47[SW]Dodgequiescens: 3fps + overclock = fail
17:03.54[SW]Dodgequiescens: 3fps + hardware upgrade = win
17:03.59doom0runderclocking is for champs
17:04.16Grumunderclocking is for those nature-freaks that want to waste less energy
17:04.24doom0rnono no
17:04.30Grumjust buying what you need when the price is in the sweetspot .... THAT is how it should be :D
17:04.31doom0rit's for stablizing
17:05.12Mikkunderclocking + oversized fan = quiet computer
17:05.17doom0ryou take cheap hw and underclock
17:05.31Grumand why would you want a quiet computer?
17:05.32doom0rgives you cheap servers
17:05.54Grumor better; why would normal hardware without underclocking not be silent? :)
17:06.04Grumi guess you picked up the wrong hardware then ^^
17:06.42Pneumatusbricking your noisy PC into its own room > getting a quiet pc
17:06.43MikkI have too many computers running
17:06.51MikkI like them silent
17:06.55neeneeUndervolting/clocking a laptop is useful for people who buy their laptop to use on the road.
17:07.01Deviadwhy would you spend hundreds of thousands dollars for developing a pen to write in the space if you can use a pencil? :D
17:07.13Mikkbecause pencils create carbon dust
17:07.20Mikkwhich stays in the air in 0g
17:07.24GrumDeviad: indeed; why try and force to use Vista or overclock your shite if you can just install xp and have it work?
17:07.35Deviadneenee, talking of which cool book doesn't work on the fourth generation of Macbook Pro. :|
17:07.45Pneumatuswhy invent pencils when there was stone tablets and chisels tbh
17:07.48neeneeWhy install XP if Vista works out of the box without having to 'tweak' a lot?
17:07.56MikkBecause Vista is the devil
17:08.10Grumneenee: oh cmon not tweaking vista?
17:08.12Grumseriously?
17:08.20doom0ri have one of those overly pressurized pens the army uses for underwater writing
17:08.27MikkI refuse to run an OS that won't let me play stuff just because my monitor doesn't have the "i r secure output" pin
17:08.27ThraeVista is so evil, they're only slightly tweaking the kernel for Windows 7
17:08.36doom0rit's nice never worrying about the pen starting to write
17:08.38Pneumatusstone tablets and chisels work underwater
17:08.59doom0rPneumatus: not well =\
17:09.12GrumPneumatus: downside is before you finish your message you are dead because of lack of oxygen
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17:09.24doom0rl2abbr
17:09.24ThraeMikk: That's weird, even older LCDs normally work fine with VGA
17:09.29DeviadJokes apart Windows 7 probably is going to be the devil Palladium, TCG etc. everyone was scared of
17:09.33neeneeGrum: Yup.
17:09.54DeviadA friend of mine has access to Windows 7 and he told me that if you try to run Emule, ecc. they simply won't run
17:09.56DeviadO_o
17:10.10ThraeMikk: I did a ton of copy protection work when I did video testing...
17:10.11DeviadIf that's true I guess no one will buy it in times when no one has money to buy anything ^^
17:10.17Grumneenee: so you donot have to turn of aero; turn of the sidebar; fix all the stupidly sized buttons; remove the stupid 'click me 4 times before i do something'-permission crap?
17:10.24Deviadand microsoft will lose some more market share :P
17:10.33doom0rGrum: new explorer
17:10.45Grumnew explorer?
17:10.57doom0ryes, it's the worst thing in teh world
17:10.58DeviadGrum, you're right about it. I had to do all that stuff when I installed vista
17:11.00Deviad:(
17:11.11ThraeDeviad: The OS isn't released yet, applications that heavily rely on network APIs are hit-or-miss at this point (especially when you consider how bad it was with Vista)
17:11.16neeneeGrum: Nope, I do not do that. I just use it and don't install programs every day, nor stare at buttons/window borders/etc.
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17:11.31Grumneenee: have you ever used xp?
17:11.40neeneeYup, since the betas.
17:11.41Grumdid you have the kiddo-my-first-windows skin on it for all times?
17:11.55Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r4804 / (5 files in 2 directories): BigWigs:
17:11.56Repo- add EyeOfEternity/Malygos modules
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17:12.04ThraeGrum: UAC is an added security feature and while annoying, it does help protect you, and is one of the reasons Vista can be more secure then XP out of the box.
17:12.11neeneeAh, I see. No point arguing with you :) Have fun with the over-done discussion.
17:12.25GrumThrae: help protect me from what?
17:12.39Grumit only helps if you are a retard; clicking every link; installing every program
17:12.44ThraeSpyware, Malware, Viruses, Rootkits, etc.
17:13.00Grumyes; also the reason you need a firewall, virusscanners etc right?
17:13.06ThraeMost people are retarded.
17:13.06Grumand you cannot possible do without in the current day and age?
17:13.24neeneegets some popcorn
17:13.26GrumThrae: then give me a 1 button: 'I am not retarded'-mode
17:13.36Grumthen the OS might be something to use otherwise .. sigh
17:13.38ThraeYou can disable UAC.
17:13.45Grumyes; with a lot of work
17:13.51Grumat least when i tried it ><
17:14.07ThraeIt was very easy for me...
17:14.10MikkI just don't see the point of upgrading to something that doesn't really get me anything I'm looking for and only causes me more work
17:14.11Mikkshrugs
17:14.32neeneeYou can do it right from the Control Panel if you so choose to decrease security.
17:14.44ThraeMikk: If you really have no need for it and know what you're doing when it comes to security, then there's no need to upgrade to Vista.
17:14.55gixyou can also tone down the prompt behavior without disabling uac
17:15.36Grumwell besides that you hae to do the regular windows crap; turn of the recycle bins; set the pagefile to a fit size and only 1 disk; turn of the 'reboot on error' switch; turn off all sounds; delete ieplorer; purge half of the system services; kill indexing; setup to show file extentions yaddayaddayadda
17:15.59MikkYeah bit you get that on xp too
17:16.02Grumyup
17:16.07Grum'feature' ><
17:16.10Mikkmm
17:16.22MikkI really wouldnt mind a "I r poweruser" checkbox on install
17:16.22doom0rMikk: ya, you just don't have to find a replacement for explorer on xp
17:16.23gixjust create your own install-dvd with a few clicks and voila
17:16.32doom0rcustom build ftw
17:17.02gixif you are a poweruser then act like one :p
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17:17.12Grumah well .. and if you have solved all that crap you can have a nice argument with your dual display setup
17:17.28Grumgix: those actions you'd have to do once per hardware upgrade
17:17.46Grumwhich is about once every 1.5-2 years; not worth all the 'make your own image' efforts
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17:18.02Mikkohwell
17:18.12Mikkpreaching to the choir, mostly
17:18.18Grumclearly
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17:18.33aestilsomeone in my guild is claiming the curse client has a keylogger.
17:18.43Mikkyeah that rumor doesnt want to die
17:18.44doom0rcustom task for tasksel imo and call it a day
17:18.45Mikkit never has
17:18.45gixGrum: then what is there to complain if you have to do that stuff once in a blue moon?
17:18.48Grumjust tell him to delete his World of Warcraft folder
17:18.52Grumthat will make his wow secure
17:19.10Grumgix: its retarded that all the 'good default settings' are not in the base install
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17:19.26Repo- Fix Malygos
17:19.32Grumoh! turn of key-repetition triggers
17:19.42Grumsmack shift 5 times and enjoy the carnage
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17:20.32DeviadGrum, sticky keys... ^^ in Italian they are called parmanenet keys :| I had to google half an hour to find a regedit fix for that
17:20.47Grumjust activate them
17:20.52Grumand you get the option to turn it off
17:20.59Industrialor just pop in a linux cd and be done with it
17:21.02Industrialttky
17:21.04Industrialkkty*
17:21.12doom0rIndustrial: see my last comment :P
17:21.18Industrialyou can bitch all you want at microsoft, but free alternatives are available
17:21.20Grumand then have a fight with your flavor of wine to get wow running
17:21.29Industrialkeep bitching and being ignorant, please
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17:21.45DeviadWell, believe it or not I had a Gentoo installed on my old Macbook Pro
17:21.54wallenDoes anyone know if you can avoid displaying damage coming from certain skills in Parrot by using Suppressions?
17:21.54Pneumatusgentoo is for ricers.
17:21.59Industrial\:D/ i run archlinux on my macbook
17:22.07Deviadit worked like a charm but after 3 months I got bored at waiting 3 hours to get openoffice working
17:22.13Primerhaha
17:22.15Primergenpoo
17:22.17Deviadfor a make
17:22.29PrimerI ran that crap for a long time
17:22.33GrumDeviad: and yet you still overclock; its the same difference
17:22.36Primerit's simply unmaintainable
17:22.53DeviadPrimer, some guides of that community are very good and work on other distros
17:22.57doom0rsabayon imo
17:22.59Deviadexpecially the ones about Macbook
17:23.03gixGrum: those features might be annoying for you. that's why you can disable them, if there's need, once in a blue moon. or make your custom install with a few clicks and be done with it.
17:23.14DeviadI found them very useful when I had to set up other distros
17:23.14Pneumatuseven fedora with a 6 month release cycle is more maintainable than gentoo :o
17:23.31Grumgix: it would be awesome if windows could provide a 'user with a brain'-button
17:23.46PrimerI remember back in the days of beta testing America's Army on Linux. One time a new version was released and all the gentoo ricers were wondering why it didn't work for them. Turns out nptl wasn't the default USE flag for compiling glibc
17:23.49gixno it would not be awesome because even people without a brain would click it
17:24.28PrimerI just happened to have enabled nptl despite that
17:25.03Grumthe whole compilation system should get an overhaul some day imho :)
17:25.17Primergentoo is practically dead, anyhow
17:25.26Primermost of the devs have already given up
17:26.33Thumannhi guys, a small question.. i was using the addon DKPTable but it stopped working and the dev hasn't released a new version since the patch, the error i'm getting is when it calls the toggle function that displays the addons main frame: http://ace.pastey.net/103570 can you see any obvious "errors" with that function, or is it something deeper? the changelog says it was updated to patch 3.0.2
17:27.18Grumunless you give us the error we have no idea what to look for
17:27.21Grumthe lua itself looks ok
17:27.59Thumannokay, hang on
17:30.35aestilare there any UF addons that don't fail with DK's?
17:30.52Grumwhich ones do fail?
17:30.58Industrialjust get an addon that does your dk shit?
17:32.02aestilpitbull throws powerbar errors whenever DK's are around.
17:32.07Parnici can't seem to comment on my curse page today...anyone else having this problem?
17:32.11aestilwell.
17:32.15aestili don't have a DK indy
17:32.19ParnicClicking "add" does nothing
17:32.21Grumaestil: strange i havent seen that when i used it
17:32.21aestilits like everyone elses DK.
17:32.28nevcairielagUF works fine on and with DKs
17:32.29Grumbut aguf has no problems as far as i can see
17:32.49Deviadhttp://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=274442&page=6 :(
17:33.03aestilI've made it through 2.0 and 3.0 now without having to redo my UI.  if i change UF's it will be time to start from scratch.
17:33.25ThumannGrum:  [string "DKPT_OptionsFrame:OnLoad" ]:1: attempt to index global 'DKPT_OptionsFrameMMOptionsTitle' (a nil value) http://ace.pastey.net/103571 is the complete lua
17:33.26Grumwhy? you can just recreate your unitframes?
17:33.28Parnicaestil: pitbull is throwing errors all over the place for me too :(. any time someone joins my party in combat, it breaks horribly
17:33.32Grumi did; replaced pitbull with aguf .. no problem :P
17:33.33ThumannGrum: it gave me another error before :)
17:33.40DeviadI had this very same problem on my other computer with a dual core. The only thing in common was vista and the ISP
17:34.03aestili have eepanels hooked to pitbull UF's all over the place grum.
17:34.14Grumauch?
17:34.16DeviadBut 6 months passed since I plaid with that hardware... I hoped things got better... but still the same issues
17:34.16Deviad:|
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17:34.36Primerplayed
17:35.22GrumThumann: erm that is one hell of a lot of code ><
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17:35.31ThumannGrum: hehe.. yeah
17:36.15Thumannhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9486-DKPTableforEQDKP.html
17:36.20Thumannthe addon itself
17:37.02Grumaccording to the author it works ^^
17:37.36ThumannGrum: Myeah
17:37.38aestilckknight: you still updating cart 3?  or is anyone?  I want a map mod with instance maps, and instance loot.
17:37.58ThumannGrum: Though Death Knights etc. aren't added.. so i dont think he's entirely up to date
17:38.09Repo10libbabble-boss-3-0: 037destiny * r139 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: Fix "Death knight Understudy"(spacing)
17:38.14HirsuteCart3 is really, really cool.  I hope it's still being updated.
17:38.17Grumlast update seems a month ago? make the author fix it? ^^
17:38.51ThumannGrum: can't find any contact info
17:39.20doom0rThumann: click the author name
17:39.22doom0rclick email or pm
17:39.31Grumbut you have to be registered on the site to do so
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17:41.11Repo- Razuvious: Fix local understudy
17:42.03ZhinjioG'morning.
17:43.02wallenDoes anyone know if you can avoid displaying damage coming from certain skills in Parrot by using Suppressions?
17:44.06DeviadI'm trying running windows media player along with world of warcraft
17:44.18Matrix110and?
17:44.19DeviadI read it might keep the four cores in action while playing O_o
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17:44.30Deviadmaybe it will fix the lag issue O_o
17:44.39Matrix110what lag issue?
17:47.17DeviadMatrix110, when I cast for example a frostbolt I don't see the casting bar showing up immediately
17:47.31Deviadsome times it takes even seconds before showing up
17:47.36Matrix110Oo
17:47.41Deviadand meanwhile the character doesn't cast
17:47.52Deviadit hangs with the blue hands
17:47.52Cheadssounds weird. never had that problem here with dual core
17:47.58Matrix110and what should that have to do with a Quad Core?
17:48.06Matrix110(iam using a Quad core myself and never had ANY issues)
17:48.11Deviad:(
17:48.21Josh_BorkeDeviad: is this with no addons?
17:48.24DeviadThe only thing in common with my old hardware is the kind of network adapter
17:48.32DeviadJosh_Borke, yes, both with and without
17:48.46Deviadso I'm going to try to change some settings
17:49.07Deviadyesterday I tried with disabling checksums and so on
17:49.50DeviadI disabled "interrupt moderation" as well
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17:50.13DeviadAnd set jumbo packetso 9014
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17:59.00MikkBlue hands without castbar showing == network problem
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17:59.12MikkAssuming EVERYTHING doesnt freeze
17:59.47DeviadHello
17:59.47Finfreeze! with your blue hands up!
17:59.48Deviad:D
17:59.50Finis it me you're looking for?
17:59.51MikkBlue hands without castbar showing == network problem
17:59.53MikkAssuming EVERYTHING doesnt freeze
18:00.10DeviadI just saw that there was the IPV4 UDP checksum still activated
18:00.12DeviadI disabled it
18:00.14Finhey Mikk
18:00.17Deviadlet's see if it works fine now
18:00.21MikkUDP won't affect it
18:00.25MikkIn-game is TCP
18:00.27MikkFin: hey =)
18:00.32Zhinjioooooo,
18:00.41pastamancerDeviad: don't disable checksums, and jumbo frames aren't going to affect wow at all
18:00.47Mikker yes disable checksumming
18:00.49FinI hard, right, that Blue hands without castbar showing, right, == network problem :P
18:00.52Fingiggles
18:00.55Fin+e
18:00.56Mikkthere's plenty of broken cards that don't checksum correctly
18:00.58Finhard too
18:01.09Zhinjiogaming polyhedral dice grognard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR2fxoNHIuU
18:01.12pastamancerreally?
18:01.16Mikkreally really
18:01.21Zhinjioand part 2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxmkWrDbn34
18:01.29Mikkworks with this shit for a living
18:02.03FinZhinjio: awesome
18:04.11pastamancerah, I see...
18:04.31Zhinjiohe does sound a little bit bitter, but eh... still fascinating
18:05.12pastamancerthat's just disabling the card's offload engine, not disabling checksumming entirely
18:05.22pastamancerI don't work with windows much
18:06.04Deviadno problems so far
18:06.12DeviadI will play like this for a hour or so
18:06.14Deviadjust to be sure
18:06.21Deviadno addons on, just plain wow
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18:10.43kenlyricthe one thing I miss about cart's waypoint arrow is the death arrow
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18:11.05Pneumatusdoesnt tomtom have a death module?
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18:11.46kenlyricflies to the config window
18:12.13kenlyricno
18:12.18Pneumatus:<
18:14.30DeviadAnyways I have always known that computer games use UDP instead of TCP
18:14.40Deviadbecause UDP has less overhead in its packets and is faster
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18:14.51Pneumatussuch lack of new flasks in PT3
18:14.52PrimerIs there any way to anchor a frame to a parent frame so that I go from -width/2 to width /2 for X, but from height to 0 for y?
18:15.43Primerand not -height/2 to height/2
18:15.54Primerusing "CENTER", I have the latter
18:15.56Repo10little-wigs: 037destiny * r465 Ulduar/Ionar.lua: Remove "OverloadRemoved" dreg
18:16.01Primerbut it seems there's no "TOPCENTER"
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18:16.53Josh_BorkeDeviad: you use udp for stuff that really matters, TCP is good enough for WoW
18:16.57MikkPrimer: that's "TOP"
18:17.23MikkDeviad: UDP will not see delays the same way. But you also get packetloss.
18:17.32MikkTCP will retransmit if necessary, but that causes delay
18:17.47PrimerMikk: reading this: http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_Anchor_Points and not truly understanding what "One Side" means
18:18.01MikkFor WoW, TCP makes more sense since it's not as hairline trigger as FPS games
18:18.02trhwhat's nowadays used to profile addons?
18:18.29MikkPrimer: "TOP" is "TOPCENTER",  "LEFT" is "CENTERLEFT"
18:18.31Mikkso to speak
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18:19.10MikkTake a frame and only anchor it TOP, it'll be centered horizontally
18:19.12PrimerMikk: so "TOP" goes from 0 to height, or height to 0? (top to bottom)
18:19.20Mikkblinks
18:19.27Primersighs
18:19.31MikkAll positions are positive->up and positive->right
18:19.43MikkThe 0 is in a different place though
18:20.06Primerhad to ask
18:20.26Repo10accomplishment: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.0.3-release-7-ga1cc63c Core.lua: [+2 commits]
18:20.27Repoa1cc63c: Remove debug stuff.
18:20.28Repo8a1dc3c: Dynamic frame resizing is now fixed and working!
18:20.29PrimerI mean, everything I've taken for granted in wow addon programming has almost always been wrong
18:21.46doom0rZhinjio: ty, that was awesome
18:21.57ZhinjioI liked it.
18:21.57doom0rand insightful
18:22.02Zhinjiogonna look him up a bit more.
18:22.17Zhinjioand since I own like... probably about 1000 dice... it definitely opened my eyes up a bit.
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18:23.25DeviadLooks like it's working
18:23.30Deviadgr8 :P
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18:24.35gixjeez. i need something for hot streak.
18:26.26PneumatusTellMeWhen
18:26.53DeviadI got it again
18:26.59Deviadthe character stuck with casting
18:27.00Deviad:|
18:27.05Pneumatusdepending on what you want, but that will give you an icon when hotstreak is up when you configure it
18:27.22DeviadI see the chat going on
18:27.29Deviadbut it's like the characters are not moving anymore
18:27.38gixPneumatus: url?
18:27.45Pneumatus@project tellmewhen
18:27.46RepoPneumatus: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/tellmewhen/. TellMeWhen. Game: WoW. Leader: lieandswell. Updated: 21 days ago
18:27.48Deviadjust my char is moving the others are stuck
18:27.49Deviad:|
18:27.49Tinyboomkenlyric; concur on the death arrow in tomtom, really miss that :/
18:28.07Deviadah lol
18:28.08Deviadok
18:28.12Deviadthis time the server crashed
18:28.14Deviadhahaha
18:28.19gixPneumatus: thanks. gonna check that out
18:28.21Deviadfor once it isn't a client-side problem
18:28.21Deviad:D
18:28.22Deviadcool
18:28.23Deviad:P
18:28.56gixmaybe i should also finally tone down my sct(d)-configs. 80% seems uninteresting most of the time
18:30.16Pneumatushad to edit mine for the first time in ages the other day when i was grouped with a blood dk :<
18:33.11MikkWhat the hell.. I'm getting the same event to fire twice by doing two LoadAddOn()s in response to an event
18:33.17Mikkpulls his hair
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18:34.17DeviadDoes anyone use any software firewall in here?
18:34.20gixPneumatus: what did you change?
18:35.02Pneumatusthe healer filter, to ignore heals below 150
18:35.12Pneumatusthe amount of dk blood aura spam was getting silly
18:35.57PrimerDeviad: iptables
18:36.33gixhearing other people's hot streaks sucks
18:36.52Pneumatushearing DK bloodworms and thinking ive hit shadowfiend by accident also sucks :<
18:36.54xyulol
18:37.43Pneumatusfocus magic on a holy priest is the key to hotstreak :>
18:38.20gixPneumatus: how/where does TellMeWhen show these icons?
18:38.25NivFreakPneumatus: holy pally what?
18:38.33Pneumatusgix: /tmw to unlock and config
18:38.33NivFreakor do you mean from COH
18:38.45Pneumatusgix: then right click one of the icon placeholders and set it up
18:38.49PneumatusNivFreak: CoH
18:38.55Repo10sell-o-matic: 03Silmano 07master * v1.1-1-gdd66d48 / (4 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] v1.1b
18:39.28Pneumatusa holy priest is generally going to have >20% crit, and with CoH hitting 6 target glyped is basically gonna crit on every cast
18:40.12Repo10shamanwarning: 03Silmano 07master * v1.1b-2-gf9367e4 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] v1.1c
18:40.12NivFreakevery CoH at least
18:40.14Repo10private-chat: 03breue * r49 / (5 files in 1 directory): Update for 3.0 self/this change.
18:40.15RepoUpdated to latest repo paths
18:40.16RepoCrayon 3.0
18:40.21Pneumatusevery CoH sorry, yeh
18:40.48xyuthat'd require you to spec focus magic in the first place -_-
18:40.57xyuget more crit !
18:41.20NivFreakfocus magic seems like a no-brainer
18:42.06gixhot streak should trigger instant frostfire bolt
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18:43.27xyufrostfire mages spec focus magic?
18:43.32xyu11 points just for that?
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18:56.09NivFreakFunkeh`: that last version you tagged for me, something broke the instructor razuvious bars
18:56.32Funkeh`failing translators
18:56.34NivFreakyea
18:56.41NivFreakok, I suspected that's what it was
18:57.18NivFreakdid that get fixed?
18:57.40Funkeh`yes
18:57.48NivFreaknot tagged though?
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18:58.53Funkeh`nop
18:59.01NivFreakboo
18:59.41Repo10private-chat: 03breue * r50 / (2 files in 1 directory): Version bump.
19:02.43StanzillaFunkeh`: 54100 faerlina (from the bigwigs print message)
19:03.00Funkeh`?
19:07.24Repo10private-chat: 03breue 041.1-release * r51 : 1.1 release
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19:11.14doom0roh
19:11.17doom0ryay
19:11.33doom0ri get to carry yet another egg around for days to see wtf it turns into
19:12.03Funkeh`usually a chicken
19:12.10Funkeh`but I tend to boil them before they get that far
19:12.20Funkeh`egg mayo sandwich ftw
19:12.24doom0rmmm
19:12.27doom0rthat sounds great
19:12.37doom0rwith a bit of ground mustard and paprika
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19:14.25doom0rleast i got a shoulder upgrade for hitting revered
19:14.32gixany idea on how to tackle something like this? http://rafb.net/p/dp6Rug25.html
19:14.43StanzillaFunkeh`: that "post this on forums" print
19:14.47StanzillaI guess its a spellid
19:15.39gixthat stacktrace doesn't really help to pinpoint the cause
19:16.55Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r4807 / (2 files in 2 directories): BigWigs: Naxxramas/Faerlina: remove print
19:17.24Stanzillak
19:19.40Repo10tank-points: 03Whitetooth * r88 TankPoints.lua: - Fixed line 2622, 2513 errors
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19:23.27Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r4808 EyeOfEternity/Malygos.lua: BigWigs: EyeOfEternity/Malygos: fixes
19:25.51GrumFunkeh`: what did you fix? :D
19:26.18Funkeh`he wasn't breathing fire
19:27.43GnarfozFunkeh`: http://ace.pastey.net/103580 :(
19:30.00Funkeh`anyone got a thaddius transcript
19:32.31Kalroth"LEFT DAMNIT, NOT RIGHT. LEARN TO FUCKING MOVE." <- transcript from our raid
19:33.23Fisker-attacks Funkeh`
19:34.03robotuschshoots Fisker-
19:34.20Fisker-never
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19:37.12Slaymanhai uhm anyone knows if DrDagame will be eligible for DKs anytime soon?
19:40.06Repo10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r4809 EyeOfEternity (2 files in 1 directory): frFR Update
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19:46.33MikkSlayman: plenty of stuff gone in today/yesterday
19:46.46Repo10questitem: 03Pericles * r22 QuestItem.lua: QuestItem: -
19:46.47Repofix for nil itemStrings
19:47.09nevcairielFunkeh`: any plans of moving the BC shit out of BW sometime?
19:47.35Funkeh`when curse launch the new client
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19:52.58Gnarfozso probably *after* they do
19:53.00Gnarfoz? ^^
19:53.13Gnarfozso everyone who adopts it early gets at least one version with all the BC stuff? ;-)
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19:56.49aestilis there an extension to big wigs for health bars on 4H and thaddius?
19:57.00aestil[the mobs you kill right before thaddius]
19:59.03sylvanaartarget the opposite one and /focus
20:00.06sylvanaari can never remember their names either
20:02.30Gnarfozfeugen
20:02.32Gnarfozstalagg
20:02.34Gnarfozalso, MT targets.
20:02.39Gnarfozthis doesn't belong in BW ^^
20:02.47Gnarfozand for 4H it's even irrelevant :D
20:02.49sylvanaaryeah, but who uses mt targets?
20:02.55Gnarfozsane people, so not you
20:04.00sylvanaarlol, they'd keep switching unless you used non tanks
20:09.58nevcairielyeah they do switch
20:10.03nevcairielbut one of them is still always feugen
20:10.05nevcairieland one is stalagg
20:10.10nevcairieleven though they switch =P
20:10.19aestili didn't suggest that it should be IN bigwigs, but rather an optional addon.  why shouldn't that be possible?
20:10.35nevcairielwrite it? :)
20:10.49aestili wish i could.
20:11.11MegalonGnarfoz: it's not irrelevant for the achievementwhores :P
20:11.20Gnarfozit's irrelevant ^^
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20:17.25Repo10private-chat: 03breue * r52 Core.lua:
20:17.25RepoHad commented out the version number .. which was a bad idea.
20:19.16Repo10private-chat: 03breue 041.2-release * r53 : Tiny bug fix.  Disregard 1.1.
20:21.59Pneumatuspastamancer: the branch revision of grid seems to have some issues with aggro notification btw
20:23.29evlAnyone remember what the SecureHeader attributes were to get a header to show only in party and not in raid?
20:25.37gixwho said pitbull throws errors with dks? seems to work fine for me
20:26.28ShotI haven't had any issues either
20:27.21pentium166It does for me
20:27.24pentium166Or rather it did
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20:33.53pastamancerPneumatus: any specifics?  I was thinking about replacing banzai with the new threat api
20:34.07Pneumatuspastamancer: the aggro status seems to get locked on
20:34.16Pneumatuslike, after a wipe people still have the notifier
20:34.20pastamancerah, ok
20:35.20Repo10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r15 / (5 files in 2 directories): Broker_RecZone:
20:35.21Repo- Converted to use LibQTip-1.0. Will need to fix up formatting but it works :)
20:35.45pastamancerhmm, that shouldn't matter, GridStatusAggro is really simple
20:36.18Pneumatusive just wiped, and a ghost window still has an aggro notifier
20:36.51SarozFunkeh`, mark counter is fucked on 4hm
20:37.04Funkeh`how so
20:37.04Pneumatusand now we have ressed, that unit still has the aggro mark
20:37.29Sarozit's too fast
20:38.19Funkeh`Saroz, too fast how? pretty sure it's an event based ocunter
20:38.24Funkeh`counter
20:38.40Sarozsec combat
20:38.56nevcairielit is event based, i dont see how it can even be wrong =P
20:39.02Funkeh`Saroz, all 4 dudes do 1 mark every 12 sec right
20:39.19Funkeh`because I put a 5sec throttle in
20:40.50Sarozmight be lag
20:40.51Sarozbut
20:40.53Saroztimer finishes
20:40.59Sarozand no new mark applies
20:41.04Sarozand now I had 2x timer bars for marsk
20:41.05Sarozmarks
20:41.28nevcairielon the two caster mobs?
20:41.36nevcairielthey usually lag behind in their casts, but not always
20:41.36Sarozye
20:41.44Sarozwell 2 bars
20:41.45nevcairielthe timer is good
20:42.29nevcairielwhat do you care about mark timers for the two casters anyway =P
20:42.29nevcairielits so trivial
20:42.44Sarozcause it SPAMS
20:42.46Sarozlike FUCK
20:43.17Sarozthe 5 sec warning should go away :S
20:43.20sylvanaarthere is alot of spam from the 4H mod.
20:43.21Funkeh`Saroz, I can't see how thats possible
20:43.31Funkeh`unless the 2nd mark comes after 5 seconds
20:43.47Sarozit might have, had major lag, everyone did
20:43.55Sarozremove the 5sec warning IMO
20:43.56Funkeh`as in [2marks] >5sec > [2marks]
20:44.01vhaarrFunkeh`, Saroz: they don't cast their marsk at the same time any more
20:44.04sylvanaarim not sure what information would be generically useful
20:44.14vhaarrFunkeh`: the two at the "top", the ranged ones, they have random cast times
20:44.23vhaarrwhile the two "melee" targets do cast it at the same time
20:44.28SarozI'm not sure, was tanking and in combat and shit, just saw double mark bars and no new applications when they expired
20:44.39Sarozthrottle it to 10 sec then
20:44.41vhaarrFunkeh`: make it only count marks from the melee ones and then stop counting
20:44.51vhaarrbecause after those are dead it doesn't matter any more anyway
20:44.55vhaarrbbl
20:45.11Sarozmeh
20:45.14Funkeh`which ones are the melee ones
20:45.19Sarozbaron and thane
20:45.44Sarozwell, in honesty, this encounter dont need mark counters anymore
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20:46.21Sarozjust needs, ehm, void zone warning... and thats it I guess
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20:48.41SarozFunkeh`, need "YOU ARE STANDING IN A VOID ZONE" warning
20:48.52Funkeh`pretty sure there is one
20:49.01Sarozoki :)
20:49.02sylvanaarthere'd be lots of useful "personal" warnings
20:49.04quiescensdanger will robinson
20:50.53Funkeh`actually there isn't
20:51.02Funkeh`because iirc there isn't an event until it hits you
20:51.10Sarozwell thats bad enough
20:51.12Funkeh`by which time you're probably too stupid to need a warning
20:51.22Saroznah just warn on hit
20:51.29Funkeh`it's warned on spawn
20:51.37Sarozwell, she spams it
20:51.40Sarozso not really usefull
20:51.42Sarozneither is wrath
20:51.49Funkeh`well start making transcript logs
20:51.50Sarozor meteor
20:52.05Sarozah right, you havnt been there, nm :p
20:52.08NivFreakRe: 4HM Marks
20:52.21NivFreakwe see it constatnly that one of the tanks will have 1 less mark
20:52.26Sarozye
20:52.48Sarozwhich is why I'm saying, all you really need is a "standing in void zone" warning for this encounter
20:52.59Sarozand shield wall for 10man, called bone barrior now
20:53.08NivFreakhehe
20:53.11NivFreakdidn't even notice it
20:53.16Sarozit's not there on 25
20:53.22NivFreakI've run both
20:53.25Sarozmm
20:53.35Funkeh`TRANSCRIPTOR LOGS
20:53.37Funkeh`k
20:53.51NivFreakFunkeh`: yea, I'm getting you some tonight
20:53.52NivFreakfor 10man
20:54.01Sarozfuck 10 man
20:54.02Funkeh`stick em on the forum if you can
20:54.03NivFreakI'm leaving it on for the entire instance just to make you suffer
20:54.03Saroz:p
20:54.11Funkeh`suffer?
20:54.14Funkeh`I'm going to play l4d
20:54.20NivFreakl4d?
20:54.26NivFreak;P
20:54.27Funkeh`left4dead
20:54.34NivFreakhah
20:54.35Funkeh`only the most hyper game this year
20:54.48Funkeh`hyped*
20:54.50Sarozdownloaded it :p
20:55.05Sarozstill need to play.. Red Alert 3, Fallout 3
20:55.07SarozDead Space
20:55.09Sarozand uhm... ye
20:55.18Funkeh`fallout 3 looked shit
20:55.21Funkeh`red alert looks good
20:55.23Sarozit was boring
20:55.24SarozI thought
20:55.28Sarozred alert was zzz too
20:55.33Funkeh`mmm
20:55.43Sarozdead space is alright, but
20:56.37Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r4810-release * r4810 : Tagging as r4810-release
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21:01.26Funkeh`booya, full unremixed forever tiesto's forever today
21:02.09evlAny macro modifier that checks if the target is alive?
21:02.17HjalteHow come one member of my raid, a priest, has sent 35k messages marked as ctra (using ora2) while everyone else sent only a few? I'm usign raidspamfu
21:02.35Funkeh`lol wtf
21:03.37doom0revl: nodead
21:03.43vhaarrHjalte: would be nice to get a list of the messages if possible
21:03.51evldoom0r can yoi prefix everything with no?
21:03.57doom0rno is boolean modifier for most everything in macros
21:04.28doom0revl: see cogs guide
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21:13.45Hjaltevhaarr: Uh, I can make it output some of the messages to a chatframe and post some of them here if that's what you mean?
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21:19.04Hjaltevhaarr: http://ace.pastey.net/103587 - But I just found out he is using version 65380. I'll make him update -.-
21:19.10Pneumatuspastamancer: wtb an inverse filter for pets
21:19.23Pneumatuslike, dont show shadowfiends, ghost wolves or treants
21:24.55EvilJohn-i healed a shadowfiend
21:24.57EvilJohn-i had to shower
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21:30.09Brunershow much do you resist with 130 shadow resistance?
21:31.21pastamancerPneumatus: yeah, I wish
21:32.17Pneumatusis that something that secure headers cant handle easily?
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21:33.28pastamanceryup
21:33.50pastamanceryou can specify what you want, but you can't specify what you don't want
21:33.56Pneumatusah :<
21:34.42pastamancerthat's why the pet groups were setup to only show warlock and hunter pets
21:34.56pastamancerbut that's not really an option anymore
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21:35.52pastamancerI was really hoping that vehicles would end up as their own unit suffix... like party1vehicle instead of party1pet
21:36.36gixyep
21:37.00Pneumatusunless you have 2 layouts per size
21:37.19Pneumatusone with all classes for vehicle instances, and one just for normal pets
21:37.45Pneumatusw/pets and w/vehicles perhaps
21:37.59pastamancerthere's already too many layouts included
21:38.35Pneumatusdelete 20 then, and make 25 w/vehicles :)
21:38.57Pneumatusalthough 15 w/vehicles would be handy too
21:40.09gixor just overhaul the dropdown
21:40.51Pneumatusyeh, sub-layouts for pet/vehicle selections
21:41.57Pneumatushoping grid2 will improve things in that regard anyway
21:44.02Repo10gathermate: 03Pettigrow * r620 Locales/GatherMate-frFR.lua: frFR Update
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22:01.58NeoTronso is it possible to warn (mark/make people say something) when targeted by Lava Strike at Satharion? (for the achievement primarily)
22:02.30durcyndoubtful, the vortexes just drop the strikes on the ground
22:03.25NeoTronit's dropped by the little adds?
22:03.51Repo10little-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r466 Dalaran (4 files in 1 directory): - Violet Hold bosses: frFR Update
22:03.51Repo- Zuramat: bugfix
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22:06.04PrimerDoes anyone know how I could scrape data in wow to obtain the spellids of all flying mounts?
22:06.13PrimerYes, I know I've asked this repeatedly...
22:07.56PrimerI've checked warcraftmounts.com and it seems its list of mounts is quite comprehensive
22:08.05Primeronly thing I need are the spellids of these
22:08.49NeoTronlook in wowhead?
22:09.05Repo10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1178 ARLFrame.lua: AckisRecipeList:
22:09.06Repo- properly update title text after profession switch
22:09.09PrimerI don't recall
22:09.15Primermost sites don't list the spellid
22:10.29NeoTronwowhead... does?
22:10.34NeoTronhave you even looked?
22:10.48asmodaiWowhead lists 'm all
22:10.58NeoTronhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spells=-5
22:11.39asmodaihttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=30480#teaches-ability
22:11.46asmodaihttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=36702
22:11.55asmodaieasy as pie
22:12.24asmodaior what NeoTron said ;)
22:14.24Primerexcellent! thanks
22:14.46Repo10little-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r467 / (12 files in 7 directories): ruRU update
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22:17.51Alfuinanyone here know about LibRoster?
22:18.22Arrowmasteryes
22:18.29Arrowmasterits fucking sucks dont use it
22:18.51AlfuinWTF is it, and why does a library pop up a non closable window, doing nothing, no documentation, or anything?
22:19.02Arrowmasterit doesnt have a window
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22:20.09Daemoenhey guys, any of the rogues in here happen to remember which lockbox set comes after the one in sludgefen tower (horde) for speed lp raising?
22:20.29Alfuinwell, a window appeared, with a tab named "Channel Roster" and "No channel" in main window. I hovered it with MoveAnything, and I find something called ChannelPullout. that leads to nothing on file search, but roster does... LibRoster...
22:20.36Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r468 Dalaran/Zuramat_the_Obliterator.lua:
22:20.37RepoRemoved "stop dps" portion, as a standard we don't include strategy.
22:20.38Alfuinonly thing i can find that might cause it
22:20.48ArrowmasterAlfuin: thats part of the default ui afaik
22:21.00Arrowmastersomething todo with the voice chat i thought
22:21.29Alfuinoh... ok... if it is blizz stuff, i better ask a GM :D
22:21.39Arrowmasterthey wont know shit i bet
22:21.52Alfuinanyway, a window i don't use, and don't want, but cannot close... sounds like bug
22:21.52StanzillaAlfuin: shift + o
22:22.36Alfuinyeah, that disappeared it. thanks. investigating closer now, that i got clues...
22:22.53Alfuinthanks Stanzilla
22:22.57Stanzillanp
22:23.00Stanzillahad that yesterday
22:23.00KriLL3does anyone know how to turn off tooltips in gathermate? changelog says it was added, can't find it in the GUI
22:23.04Stanzillacould be voice chat related
22:23.18Alfuinlooking there first. bye!
22:24.32Megalongathermate => display => general
22:25.05KriLL3Megalon: where exactly?
22:25.24KriLL3I can't find anything related to tooltips there
22:26.31Repo10cooldownbuttons: 03Netrox * r222 branches (2 files in 1 directory): - Reduced CPU Usage in OnUpdate Handler
22:26.31Repo- Fixed Memory Leak in Spell Cooldown Register function
22:26.32Repo- Added Button recylcing, no longer create a new button for each cooldown
22:26.59Primerbah, having to search wowhead using text in the buff text to get all flying mounts
22:27.09Primerbut I think this covers them all: http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=-5&filter=na=Outland+Northrend;ex=on
22:27.17Primerexcept for flight form
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22:29.40Primernice, there's a json inside the page with the spellids
22:32.50`Zypheryo
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22:33.08`Zypherwhat's a safe way to target players OnMouseDown?
22:33.49Arrowmasterno
22:34.06`Zypherno?
22:34.23`Zypheralternative?
22:34.42ArrowmasterPrimer: i bet that filter missed the headless horseman mount
22:35.01Arrowmaster`Zypher: you can only target using secure frames
22:35.17Arrowmasterand in the OnClick
22:35.31`Zypherk
22:39.09KriLL3http://www.krill3.com/screenshots/WoWScrnShot_120308_232430.jpg would anyone care to guess what transpired here?
22:39.18KriLL3Belgian accent not required
22:39.53thulwell, well, well.
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22:40.24nevcairielFunkeh`: did most of naxx25 today, and bigwigs seems to work much better now, didnt encounter any bugs so far
22:40.56Alfuini figured out what this Channel Pullout thing is, though very little available even on the net, seems to be an undocumented, unimplemented feature from blizzard
22:41.06Alfuinfrom: FrameXML\GlobalStrings.lua
22:41.14AlfuinDISPLAY_CHANNEL_PULLOUT = "Display Chat Roster Pullout"; -- Basic tooltip for channel buttons that you can pull out to display the channel roster frame.
22:41.21AlfuinNO_VOICE_SESSIONS = "No Channels"; -- Line displayed in Channel Pullout Roster window when you don't belong to any channels with voice sessions.
22:41.24ulicoh the ctrl-O or something like that?  that one?
22:41.24nevcairielits implemented enough to have a keybinding =P
22:41.31AlfuinNEWBIE_TOOLTIP_DISPLAY_CHANNEL_PULLOUT = "Click and drag to display a roster window that lists players with voice chat enabled in this channel."; -- Newbie tooltip for channel buttons with voice sessions in the "Chat" pane of the friends frame.
22:41.57Alfuinwell, i tried to drag a chat channel into the window to see who had voice chat, but it didn't react
22:43.36Alfuinanyway, just wanted to share my findings, in case someone else ask
22:43.56BrunersKriLL3: druids are still overpowered?
22:43.57Alfuinor, if someone might post this info on wow forums over in the US, where I cannot post (EU)
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22:44.32Alfuinthere is a thread there on US forums about this "feature"
22:44.44KriLL3Bruners: notice both are hunters, also please notice the guy bellow died last, and I didn't lay the killing blow...
22:44.50Alfuinok, enough from me :D fare thee well, my fellow gamers
22:45.02KriLL3also notice my [Gnomish Poultryizer] was recently used
22:45.39KriLL3also please note the mining node behind me, which I was mining from a couple of seconds prior to the first hunter dying...
22:46.38doom0rthe channel pullout does stuff IF you enable voice
22:46.38KriLL3they jumped me together, I turned one into a chicken, I killed the other, turned to his friend, he had 20% hp, I had 60%~
22:46.40KriLL3disengage
22:48.40BrunersKriLL3: so he owned himself then and druids are still op ? :P
22:48.50KriLL3true my good sir
22:49.02gixgreat. update of tinypad and scrolling is still horribly broken :(
22:49.47PrimerKriLL3: nice
22:50.05KriLL3btw they've individually tried to kill me about 8+ times combined, both approached me, hovered on their mounts for a sec, dropped down, MARKED ME then tried to shoot, I ofc saw em and turned into bearform and charged before they shot a single time
22:50.09PrimerI love it when I get jumped by multiple enemy players and they think I'm a pushover, and I pwn them
22:50.36KriLL3really good tactic marking first when trying to gank
22:52.32PrimerI killed a 76 DK and a 76 rogue who both jumped me at the same time (76 full demon warlock at the time). Popped Every Man for Himself first, meta, immolation aura, HS, dots...wait...
22:53.04Primerthey didn't know to stop meleeing me and flee once I popped immolation aura
22:53.17pastamanceras a shadowpriest, I mostly just die in pvp
22:53.26Primerat 76, that shit was ticking for 800 every second on 0 resil
22:53.27KriLL3can't a meta lock solo everything everywhere everytime at the same time?
22:53.29Primerwhich is what they had
22:53.35PrimerI had 470 resil though
22:53.54PrimerKriLL3: I solo'd about 10 Rhinos for about 10k DPS
22:54.03Primerall I had to do was stand there and let immolation aura tick
22:54.09Primerthere's no limit
22:54.17Primerit hits EVERYTHING in a certain radius
22:54.24KriLL3swipe is about the same, except it's only stuff in front ;)
22:54.28Primerat 80, with my spell power, it ticks for 1200 :)
22:54.40KriLL3swipe does 400-500
22:54.44sdoubleI love the change to swipe, but it makes no sense
22:54.53Primermind you, I have only 1 level 80 epic
22:55.00Brunersthey buffed swipe?
22:55.03Primerand 3 level 70 items
22:55.21Primerpastamancer: so I have the waypoint floating around pretty much how I envisioned it
22:55.35KriLL3Bruners: no target limit
22:55.39pastamancerPrimer: nice
22:55.44Primerexcept now I have a new vision: make the waypoints float in an ellipse
22:56.04pastamancerhaha, I figured that would be next
22:56.12Primerit should be cake
22:56.23pastamanceryeah
22:56.28Primerand this way I don't have to worry about any paralax
22:56.36Primerdue to camera angle or width of monitor
22:56.38waallenDoes anyone know if you can avoid displaying damage coming from certain skills in Parrot by using Suppressions?
22:57.24Repo10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1179 ARLFrame.lua: AckisRecipeList:
22:57.24Repo- moved apply button disabling to correct location
22:57.25Repo(doesn't disable anymore before applying filters)
22:58.30Primertime to re-enable flashblock
22:58.40Primeridiots just don't know how to code
22:58.59Primerfucking mostly static ad taking up 100% cpu. while(1)...
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23:06.41Repo10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r16 / (3 files in 1 directory): Broker_RecZone:
23:06.41Repo- Removed AceLibrary as I got rid of the only library that needed it (Tablet-2.0)
23:07.24PrimerI don't see how windows people live without regex from the command line
23:12.17Megalonbut windows has '*' and '?'!
23:14.54PrimerI've decided to split my project up into multiple files, as having it in one file is becoming unmanageable. What's the proper thing to do with variables that have been split off into other files? Just make them global, and prefixed somehow with your main object's name?
23:15.01Primers/proper/standard/
23:15.46PrimerI foresee a chicken and egg scenario if I try to make them object properties
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23:21.30PrimerHrmm, warcraftmounts.com lists Flight Form and Swift Flight Form for both alliance and horde
23:21.37Primeryet wowhead has one spellid for either
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23:22.11doom0r?
23:22.20doom0rit's a class skill
23:22.44doom0ri'm sure they could choose animation based on faction
23:23.07Primerthottbot has the other spellid
23:23.12doom0roic
23:23.28doom0ro, i c what you mean now
23:23.56Primeryeah, wowhead has "flight form" and "swift flight form"
23:24.04Primerno differentiation between horde and alliance
23:24.31doom0rso they are unique
23:24.39Primeryes, per faction
23:24.46NivFreakhaha
23:24.50Primerargh, thott only has the spellid that wowhead has
23:24.53Primerfor flight form
23:24.55NivFreakso we were having problems with one of our priests
23:25.04NivFreakhe wasn't able to keep up with incoming dmg, and was going OOM
23:25.06Primerit had the other for swift flight form
23:25.09Primerwhich was 1 off from the other
23:25.11doom0rwhich you missing primer?
23:25.13PrimerI suppose I could guess
23:25.14NivFreakturns out he never updated his clique bound spell ranks
23:25.25NivFreakfrom 70-80
23:25.28Primerflight form that's NOT 33943
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23:27.07Primerhrmm, it seems thott has several, actually: http://thottbot.com/?s=flight+form
23:27.18Primerhover over the links to see the sXXXXX
23:27.55Primerfrom 40120 to 40123
23:28.01Primerfor swift
23:29.28Primerguess I'll wait til someone complains :)
23:30.03doom0rPrimer: 40123 teaches 40120
23:30.21doom0rit seems they are not unique
23:30.23Primerahh
23:30.25doom0rteaching spells are
23:30.40doom0ri.e. thing the trainer casts
23:30.44PrimerI have 40120 and 40121 and definitive for the spellid of the form
23:30.44doom0rwhich is indeed a spell
23:30.56Primers/1 and/1 as/
23:31.27doom0r40121 is just a mod
23:31.27PrimerI just don't have the other for non-swift. Other than 33943
23:31.30doom0rthat's the apply speed
23:31.51PrimerI don't think so. I think it's horde/alliance
23:32.11Primersince one of horde/alliance "flight form" (non swift) is 33943
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23:32.53doom0r40121 doesn't apply anything other than speed
23:32.55PrimerAnyhow, I'll see if I can get a druid to test this with a debug build
23:33.01doom0rit doesn't satisfy everything fligthform does
23:33.28doom0rhow do you get a spell from a spellbook spell?
23:33.39Primerasking me?
23:33.47doom0rya, if you know
23:33.49Primererr, I see what you mean now
23:33.55Primeractually, this will be a problem
23:34.02doom0rmight as well find out
23:34.09Primersince I'm using GetCompanionInfo() to get the spellid of the mount
23:34.18Primerin a COMPANION_UPDATE event handler
23:34.25Primerand I'm guessing this won't fall into that...
23:34.32Primerfuck
23:35.22Primerguess I'll have to add some sort of shapeshift event handler
23:35.34Primerpresuming there is such a thing...I can't imagine there isn't
23:36.30Torhal_Primer: What does your addon do?
23:36.39PrimerTorhal_: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/flight-hud.aspx
23:37.01Primerthe version I have now is much improved though, with waypoints
23:37.07Primerbut I'm still ironing out issues with it
23:37.21Primerbut I can zip it up quickly if you want to check it out
23:37.31TorhalSure.
23:37.43Primersec, let me just make sure my latest change hasn't broken it :)
23:37.58Primerhave to exit eclipse and firefox to run wow
23:38.03Primeronly 2g of ram
23:38.08Primerin wine
23:38.13TorhalDat's nassy.
23:38.20Primerall I have is Linux at work
23:41.40doom0rPrimer: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetShapeshiftForm
23:42.16Primercool, thanks
23:42.43doom0rPrimer: actually, to check if there: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetShapeshiftFormInfo
23:43.57Primerseems it's broken, fixing
23:43.58Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r45 readme.txt:
23:43.58RepoImproved the organization, layout, and editing of the readme.txt file, and added the story of the origin of SpeakinSpell.
23:44.03Primershould be a quick fix
23:44.10Torhalok
23:44.15Primerjust waiting for /rl takes forever
23:46.10Primerhttp://sh.nu/FlightHUD.zip
23:46.47Primerthe waypoint display is a bit clunky
23:47.04PrimerI've decided to make it an ellipse, not simply follow the outline of the HUD frame
23:47.33Primerinstall it, pull up your map, and in the same zone, shift-right click, add a point, mount your flying mount, pan around
23:47.40Repo10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03TrAsHeR * r152 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: frFR update
23:47.52Primeradd multiple waypoints if you wish
23:48.42Primerthing is, it won't work for druids yet
23:48.57TorhalFlightform, eh?
23:49.03Primerwell, that's next
23:49.25doom0rlooks like the forms change index Primer, so that if you don't have moonkin or tree it'll be in there place instead of one higher
23:49.36doom0rso probably just gonna have to check for spell
23:50.16Primeras long as something triggers an event that I can handle, then get the spellid in the handler
23:50.24Primerhaven't checked the URL since I had to kill firefox
23:50.44doom0rwell, it's a stance
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23:51.53Primerso a stance change event handler
23:52.02Primerwill I have to iterate over UNIT_AURA?
23:52.39doom0rare you trying to determine if they have it? or if it's active?
23:52.46Primerif it's active
23:52.55PrimerI see the URL you gave me
23:53.16PrimerIf it behaves like GetCompanionInfo(), I imagine it'll be simple
23:53.57doom0rUPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORM
23:54.07doom0rhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Events_A-Z_%28full_list%29
23:54.44doom0rUPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS is there too
23:54.54doom0r
23:54.54doom0rFired when the current form changes.
23:54.57Repo10arl: 03TrAsHeR * r1181 Locals/ARLLocals-frFR.lua: frFR update
23:54.58doom0ris first
23:55.21doom0rsecond looks to be when you learn
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23:59.37ArrowmasterPrimer: you likely wont get the spellid

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