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| 00:11.52 | pakoz9 | anyone have recommendations for a combat log addon? |
| 00:13.53 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r26 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 00:13.53 | Repo | Default messages for Portal: Dalaran no longer say Shattrath |
| 00:14.29 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner 04v3.0.3.05-release * r27 : Tagged release 3.0.3.05 |
| 00:14.29 | Repo | - Default messages for Portal: Dalaran no longer say Shattrath |
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| 00:29.42 | Repo | - no longer throws an error for players without inscription/jewelcrafting |
| 00:29.42 | Repo | - fixed the prospecting button to be clickable for jewelcrafters |
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| 00:50.29 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan, pastamancer: speaking of one way flights in handynotes_flightmasters, the druid only moonglade ones show up on non druids and show as 2 way |
| 00:51.13 | Xinhuan | yeah but the mouseover tooltip clearly says druid only |
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| 00:58.15 | Arrowmaster | well it still shows as 2 way if you plan to fix that for the wintergrasp ones |
| 00:58.22 | Arrowmaster | it should be fixed too |
| 00:59.10 | mjc | any devs around here interested in the idea of github integration for wowi ? |
| 00:59.19 | mjc | if so I might just work on a tool for it |
| 01:02.03 | Stanzilla | sounds like Tekkub stuff :P |
| 01:02.33 | Tekkub | I just have a ruby script to upload my files |
| 01:04.11 | pastamancer | hmm, anywhere to test non-dragon vehicles with a daily quest or somesuch? I feel bad about coding in strand of the ancients |
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| 01:05.14 | Stanzilla | wintergrasp! |
| 01:05.37 | pastamancer | even if it's not wintergrasp time? |
| 01:05.38 | Kilroo | ...Wow, Chatter doesn't provide a player link menu? I would have thought it did, it does almost everything else. Or am I dion it rong? |
| 01:06.04 | Arrowmaster | player link menu? |
| 01:06.34 | ckknight | thoughts on http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge-packager/tickets/9-changelog-code-generation/ ? |
| 01:06.44 | Kilroo | right click a person's name in a channel, get a popup menu of things to do to them instead of automatically being set to whisper to them. |
| 01:07.04 | pastamancer | that works for me just fine and I'm using chatter |
| 01:07.07 | mjc | Tekkub: ok, I am considering making a backend that you can add as an origin and do push/pulls to |
| 01:07.12 | Kilroo | Hm. |
| 01:07.21 | Kilroo | wonder what I'm doing wrong then. |
| 01:07.50 | Arrowmaster | Kilroo: the default ui has the menu, if you arent getting one on rightclick then blame one of your addons |
| 01:11.45 | Arrowmaster | hmm i found a place where im off the zone map in the middle of northrend |
| 01:15.17 | pakoz9 | is there a way i can make a macro to summon my mounts randomly (ground when flying is prohibited)? |
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| 01:16.51 | WobWork | ckknight: is this for ingame changelog viewing? |
| 01:16.57 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:16.59 | ckknight | that's the idea |
| 01:17.04 | WobWork | is that really necessary? =) |
| 01:17.10 | ckknight | it'd be optional |
| 01:17.14 | ckknight | but some addons do it |
| 01:17.15 | WobWork | true |
| 01:17.15 | ckknight | like QuestHelper |
| 01:17.17 | WobWork | hm |
| 01:17.31 | ckknight | so I figure, why not have a good, proper way? |
| 01:17.38 | ckknight | cause, if I decide I want to do it |
| 01:17.42 | ckknight | I refuse to do it manually |
| 01:17.42 | mjc | omnicc gets it wrong for DKs. anyone have a suggestion? |
| 01:17.44 | ckknight | ~laziness |
| 01:17.44 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 01:17.51 | WobWork | yeah, that format is robust enough |
| 01:18.25 | mjc | ckknight: it would be awesome |
| 01:18.40 | pastamancer | remind me where the FP is in wintergrasp... it's not where I remember it |
| 01:18.46 | ckknight | instead of making a huge string to deal with, the author can then use the data to format it however they want |
| 01:18.59 | ckknight | show it in an HTML block, or just turn it into a big string yourself |
| 01:19.00 | ckknight | whatever |
| 01:19.10 | pastamancer | ckknight: too many options |
| 01:19.18 | ckknight | pastamancer: options? |
| 01:19.26 | pastamancer | changelogs is changelogs |
| 01:19.45 | pastamancer | addonname-version.txt is all I want |
| 01:19.58 | pastamancer | none of this fancypants stuff |
| 01:20.10 | ckknight | pastamancer: this is for in-game changelogs |
| 01:20.15 | ckknight | not out of game |
| 01:20.21 | pastamancer | totally not needed |
| 01:20.24 | ckknight | we're not getting rid of addonname-version.txt |
| 01:20.29 | ckknight | right, that's why it's optional |
| 01:20.31 | ckknight | it's not needed |
| 01:20.37 | ckknight | but up to the author's discretion |
| 01:20.49 | ckknight | they could use it if they want |
| 01:20.56 | ckknight | or not |
| 01:20.59 | ckknight | completely their choice |
| 01:21.41 | WobWork | I don't really care, as long as it's by default off, and doesn't impact the script in any other way =) |
| 01:22.33 | ckknight | only thing made by default would be addonname-version.txt |
| 01:22.36 | ckknight | which isn't going away |
| 01:23.32 | WobWork | nods |
| 01:23.59 | WobWork | I don't really see a problem with additional options if they're not impacting normal service |
| 01:23.59 | ckknight | i.e. even if you do specify the changelog directive, you'd then have the txt file and the lua file |
| 01:24.02 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:24.20 | WobWork | methinks pasta is just being narky for narky's sake =P |
| 01:24.36 | ckknight | prolly |
| 01:24.41 | ckknight | ...nark |
| 01:24.43 | WobWork | (Damned kids) |
| 01:24.48 | ckknight | true |
| 01:24.51 | ckknight | kids these days... |
| 01:24.55 | ckknight | worse than any generation before them |
| 01:25.09 | WobWork | does narky mean the same thing over there as it does here? |
| 01:25.16 | ckknight | I've heard of snarky |
| 01:25.17 | ckknight | not narky |
| 01:25.18 | pastamancer | Are there any addons that currently display an in-game changelog? |
| 01:25.22 | ckknight | there's also narc |
| 01:25.28 | ckknight | which is a snitch for narcotics, afaik |
| 01:25.29 | WobWork | yeah, that's different =) |
| 01:25.36 | ckknight | pastamancer: QuestHelper |
| 01:25.38 | gix | sounds like a waste of memory |
| 01:25.44 | pastamancer | And how many would add one if ckk implements this? |
| 01:26.01 | WobWork | narky is like 'elderly grumpy cause they got nothing better to do' |
| 01:26.18 | ckknight | however many that authors want to. I want to give power to the authors, not cripple them |
| 01:26.31 | ckknight | we're not forcing this on anyone, it's up to the author's discretion |
| 01:26.46 | ckknight | gix: then as an author, I'm sure you'll do the right thing and not have a changelog viewer |
| 01:27.14 | pastamancer | I think it'll be a waste of time to implement given the low demand/interest. |
| 01:27.27 | pastamancer | But I'm not your boss. |
| 01:27.42 | WobWork | gix: Running the site as a community aware situation is more profitable than ignoring the users =) |
| 01:28.03 | WobWork | If some users suggest a feature, it's better to implement it than say "No, that's silly" |
| 01:28.03 | ckknight | Kaelten mostly tells me what to work on |
| 01:28.11 | WobWork | if you have the manpower |
| 01:28.26 | ckknight | and then I ignore him, come up with some cool idea, implement it, and then tell him once it's entrenched |
| 01:28.27 | WobWork | (and god knows where ckk gets the time to do his work =P) |
| 01:28.39 | ckknight | this weekend I've been working on addons |
| 01:28.40 | ckknight | :-) |
| 01:28.42 | ckknight | not curseforge |
| 01:28.43 | Kaelten | ~lart ckknight |
| 01:28.43 | purl | gives ckknight a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" |
| 01:28.45 | ckknight | oh, I also played Fallout |
| 01:29.12 | WobWork | I liked fallout |
| 01:29.16 | WobWork | but I stopped playing =\ |
| 01:29.29 | WobWork | It got a -bit- too wastelandy for me =P |
| 01:29.36 | WobWork | and I felt too lonely =P |
| 01:29.54 | ckknight | very true |
| 01:29.59 | ckknight | that's why once you start feeling lonely, just stop |
| 01:30.03 | ckknight | come back to it in a few days |
| 01:30.07 | ckknight | it's been good policy for me |
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| 01:33.42 | Quaiche | ckknight and Kaelten back in the house! |
| 01:33.48 | Kaelten | lol |
| 01:33.53 | Kaelten | :P |
| 01:34.28 | ckknight | I believe you misspelled "hizzy" |
| 01:34.30 | Quaiche | Kaelten: Kemayo_ is the TOC author for Broker_Speed, but isn't project admin. I've got a WotLK version ready to go but can't commit to that project. Suggestions? |
| 01:34.53 | Quaiche | Considered creating a new one, but figured Antiarc would just merge it in anyway. :P |
| 01:35.08 | Kaelten | Ackis: ping |
| 01:35.25 | Quaiche | s/Antiarc/Ackis/ |
| 01:35.27 | Quaiche | LOL |
| 01:35.28 | Groktar | whispers a lewd suggestion into Kaelten's ear |
| 01:35.32 | Kaelten | lol |
| 01:36.24 | Kaelten | Quaiche: link |
| 01:36.25 | ckknight | I made Kemayo the project admin |
| 01:36.31 | Kaelten | ah, cool |
| 01:36.35 | Kaelten | why isn't it open? |
| 01:36.39 | ckknight | it is |
| 01:36.58 | Torhal | Apparently it was - break19 made 3.0 changes |
| 01:37.00 | ckknight | Quaiche: you should be able to commit no problem |
| 01:37.00 | Quaiche | Open commits? |
| 01:37.04 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:37.06 | Quaiche | Oh |
| 01:37.12 | Quaiche | No pwd? |
| 01:37.31 | ckknight | you've committed on curseforge before, right? |
| 01:37.35 | Quaiche | lol |
| 01:37.35 | ckknight | for your own projects |
| 01:37.38 | Quaiche | Aye |
| 01:37.40 | ckknight | same thing |
| 01:37.44 | ckknight | shared auth |
| 01:37.58 | Quaiche | Just checking... since I wasn't on the project author list, I figured I couldn't commit |
| 01:38.11 | Quaiche | This is basically a rewrite, and I know people want it. |
| 01:38.13 | Quaiche | I'll push it up |
| 01:40.31 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 01:40.31 | Kaelten | np |
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| 01:43.11 | Arrowmaster | a rewrite? |
| 01:43.47 | Arrowmaster | ill have to check it out then since i really should stop using and maintaining fubar_speedfu |
| 01:44.52 | Quaiche | ckknight: It won't let me commit. :S |
| 01:45.00 | Torhal | I'd like to see it simply because Broker_Speed as it is is 26 lines :) |
| 01:45.01 | ckknight | do you use svn normally? |
| 01:45.05 | Quaiche | Every day |
| 01:45.13 | ckknight | svn:// or svn+ssh://? |
| 01:45.21 | Arrowmaster | if its only 26 lines then it must only be using GetUnitSpeed() |
| 01:45.25 | Quaiche | Torhal: Maybe someone beat me to it. |
| 01:45.26 | Torhal | It is |
| 01:45.27 | Arrowmaster | which isnt really good enough |
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| 01:45.31 | Quaiche | It was > 75 lines before |
| 01:45.33 | Quaiche | And didn't work |
| 01:45.36 | Quaiche | Which pissed me off |
| 01:45.36 | Torhal | Quaiche: break19 did on the 9th |
| 01:45.45 | Quaiche | Ah |
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| 01:46.21 | Torhal | r10 | break19 | 2008-11-09 16:19:38 +0000 (Sun, 09 Nov 2008) | 1 line |
| 01:46.21 | Torhal | Changed paths: |
| 01:46.21 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:46.21 | Torhal | Updated to use GetUnitSpeed and minor code cleanup |
| 01:46.31 | Quaiche | I believe ya. No need to waste time. :S |
| 01:46.41 | Torhal | Bah, was just showing what he did |
| 01:47.39 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: fSpeed = math.floor(GetUnitSpeed("player") / 7 * 100 + 0.1) |
| 01:48.00 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 01:48.07 | Quaiche | That |
| 01:48.09 | Quaiche | 's it |
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| 01:49.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah but it should be + 0.5 not + 0.1 for proper rounding |
| 01:49.24 | Repo | 10breakables: 03Parnic * r8 Breakables.lua: |
| 01:49.24 | Repo | - changed stack-merging code to compare item id's instead of item links since links don't work due to unique identifiers (durrr) |
| 01:49.39 | Xinhuan | someone should revert speedfu to like 3 months ago |
| 01:49.42 | Xinhuan | when it was working perfectly |
| 01:49.49 | Arrowmaster | meh fuck you |
| 01:49.59 | Xinhuan | GetUnitSpeed() does NOT work when on a flightpath/boat/transport/vehicle |
| 01:50.13 | Arrowmaster | have you tried the latest alpha? |
| 01:50.15 | Xinhuan | no |
| 01:50.24 | Torhal | Xinhuan: Broker_Speed tells me 480% on any of those. |
| 01:50.26 | Quaiche | Torhal: I think my rounding was more like what Arrow is talking about, but other than that break19 and I did the same thing. |
| 01:50.27 | Arrowmaster | it uses astrolabe by default |
| 01:50.40 | Xinhuan | might update later |
| 01:50.51 | Cavisty^gerber | Anybody know if Expiration was ever updated for wrath? |
| 01:51.06 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 01:51.11 | Arrowmaster | only problem is that its kinda messed up with astrolabe and the speed flucates a lot |
| 01:51.12 | Xinhuan | when was it updated to use astrolabe |
| 01:51.15 | Quaiche | Mine was local fSpeed = round(GetUnitSpeed("player") / 7 * 100 + 0.1) |
| 01:51.19 | Torhal | WTB motivation to fix texture bug in LibQTip. |
| 01:51.28 | Quaiche | With the old Broker_Speed round() function |
| 01:51.38 | Quaiche | meh |
| 01:51.42 | Quaiche | As long as it works I don't care |
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| 01:52.10 | Xinhuan | Torhal, when on a moving transport |
| 01:52.23 | Xinhuan | getunitspeed() returns the last value before you got on the transport |
| 01:52.32 | Torhal | Actually, I take that back: I'm not sure what it tells me when in a vehicle |
| 01:52.50 | Xinhuan | its the same with getunitpitch |
| 01:52.56 | Xinhuan | anyway brb |
| 01:53.11 | Xinhuan | you can be in 3 types of vehicles too |
| 01:53.14 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah GetUnitSpeed("player") is broken too |
| 01:53.29 | Arrowmaster | since when in a real vehicle it will say 0 |
| 01:53.33 | Xinhuan | 1. you control it 2. you don't control it (but can exit) 3. you don't control it and you can't exit |
| 01:53.58 | Xinhuan | there's a 4th case, where you are in the vehicle and you can cast spells while on it, as the driver moves the vehicle |
| 01:54.05 | Xinhuan | including spells with a casttime |
| 01:54.13 | Xinhuan | such as frostbolt |
| 01:54.22 | Xinhuan | the demolisher vehicle in wintergrasp is an example of this |
| 01:54.38 | Xinhuan | you can hop on the back of it that someone else is driving, and frostbolt from it |
| 01:55.54 | Quaiche | ckknight: It was still interesting that I couldn't commit, even though I don't now need to do it. :) |
| 01:56.23 | Repo | 10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 042.2beta1 * r37 : Tagging as 2.2beta1 |
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| 02:07.14 | Jygga | is somebody using eqdkp and would be so kind to export the raid note and event triggers for me? :) |
| 02:07.28 | Repo | 10questitem: 03Pericles * r3 / (11 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 02:07.29 | Repo | QuestItem: - |
| 02:07.29 | Repo | Version 0.10 |
| 02:07.30 | Repo | Inplemented quest item bag frame |
| 02:07.34 | Repo | Now searches bags and displays icons in quest bag frame |
| 02:08.16 | Repo | 10questitem: 03Pericles 04v0.20-beta * r4 : QuestItem: - |
| 02:08.17 | Repo | Release beta to Curse.com |
| 02:11.43 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: do you know if they fixed the emblem macro bug? |
| 02:13.29 | Repo | 10nauticus: 03Drool * r101 / (4 files in 1 directory): - add in AceConfigDialog/Bliz options |
| 02:13.30 | Repo | - change default world map icon size to 125% |
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| 02:25.58 | Parnic | so i've read the ace3 "getting started" page and i'm trying to setup an options table for my mod. when entering the slash command, ValidateOptionsTable() complains that Breakables.Handler (Breakables being my mod) has an "unknown parameter" |
| 02:26.07 | Parnic | am i missing a function that i'm supposed to implement? |
| 02:26.42 | Zhinjio | pastey your options table |
| 02:26.52 | Parnic | alright, one sec |
| 02:27.12 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Did you test with the latest version yet? |
| 02:27.35 | Zhinjio | Torhal: sorry, no. I've been dealing with baby all day |
| 02:27.42 | Parnic | zhinjio: a snippet: http://ace.pastey.net/103349 |
| 02:27.45 | Torhal | Understandable :) |
| 02:27.57 | Parnic | should "Handler" just be lower case? :) |
| 02:28.02 | Parnic | just realized that |
| 02:28.38 | Parnic | yep, ignore me. that was all :) |
| 02:28.43 | Zhinjio | hehehehee |
| 02:28.51 | Zhinjio | glad I could help *cough* |
| 02:28.57 | Parnic | ha. Thanks! :P |
| 02:29.42 | Parnic | i assume that AceDBOptions is what gets the options into blizzard's config ui? |
| 02:31.27 | theoddone33 | four horsemen are really really easy on 10 man |
| 02:31.38 | theoddone33 | disappointed, that was the fight everyone said you had to get just perfect at 40 |
| 02:31.58 | Parnic | hard to split up a 10-man group into 4 distinct groups :P |
| 02:32.20 | theoddone33 | yeah, the way they did it is fine |
| 02:32.25 | theoddone33 | we just downed it in 3 attempts |
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| 02:32.47 | theoddone33 | kind of not hard at all even with 2 1/2 healers |
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| 02:34.30 | Repo | 10fu-bar_check-fear-ward-fu: 03networkerror * r55 / (3 files in 1 directory): FuBar_CheckFearWardFu: |
| 02:34.31 | Repo | - r55 |
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| 02:45.05 | Repo | 10questitem: 03Pericles * r5 / (4 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 02:45.06 | Repo | QuestItem: - |
| 02:45.06 | Repo | Version 0.11 |
| 02:45.08 | Repo | Add a /qi open command to reopen a closed bag |
| 02:45.12 | Repo | Test fix for issue where bag with multiple items slot wasnt clearing text |
| 02:45.41 | Repo | 10questitem: 03Pericles 04v0.11-beta * r6 : QuestItem: - |
| 02:45.42 | Repo | Release to Curse.com for testing |
| 02:45.51 | Gngsk | anyone here use facadebuffs? |
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| 03:06.08 | Repo | Start moving status modules from using UnitName to UnitGUID. |
| 03:06.10 | Repo | THIS BREAKS COMPATABILITY WITH ANY EXISTING STATUS MODULES. |
| 03:07.19 | pastamancer | whoo caps! |
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| 03:14.47 | ckknight | pastamancer: woo |
| 03:17.17 | pastamancer | yay branches too |
| 03:18.09 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer 07unitguid * r1046 GridStatusHeals.lua: |
| 03:18.10 | Repo | GridRoster:GetRealmByGUID doesn't exist, use the second return value of GridRoster:GetNameByGUID instead. |
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| 03:37.57 | Hjalte | Is anyone else getting absurd fps lag when doing 25-man bosses? I've mostly noticed it in Naxxramas. |
| 03:39.47 | Hjalte | My FPS drops from like 30 to 5-10 when fighting bosses. It's also not just me, but most of my raid group. |
| 03:45.23 | sacarasc | happens to me :( |
| 03:45.58 | Hjalte | I'm trying to establish if it's a general problem (which I believe it is) or if it's some addons that a lot of people are using, which seems unlikely though. |
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| 03:48.31 | kadrahil | has anyone done work with php sessions before? i'm having a problem where the session is being reset or unset after i use header() to redirect a page |
| 04:02.06 | Quaiche | kadrahil: Might wanna ask in ##pgp |
| 04:02.11 | Quaiche | s/pgp/php/ |
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| 04:17.18 | Paene | hm...is questhelper broken atm? |
| 04:19.40 | Hjalte | Paene: It worked for me when leveling in Wrath. |
| 04:20.25 | Paene | hm...nothing showing up on my map |
| 04:20.35 | Fin | Fin: testicles |
| 04:20.46 | Fin | Fin: testicles |
| 04:20.48 | Fin | woo |
| 04:20.56 | Fin | testes on toast |
| 04:21.56 | Fin | apologies for the interruption in service and now returns you to your regularly scheduled broadcast |
| 04:28.42 | TheDeamon_ | anybody know of a good way to show combo points on the petbar in pitbull and/or xperl? |
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| 05:04.13 | Pharod | Can someone link me a mining nodmap for cartographer? |
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| 05:13.23 | Antiarc | Any BigWigs folks on? |
| 05:14.21 | Fisker- | farts |
| 05:15.54 | pakoz | Pharod; do you just want your map to have mining nodes on it? |
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| 05:18.37 | pakoz | question: my macro keeps telling me i have another action in progress but im not sure why """"/castsequence [ nomounted]White Polar Bear Mount |
| 05:18.49 | pakoz | '/castsequence [ nomounted]White Polar Bear Mount |
| 05:18.52 | pakoz | =/ |
| 05:19.07 | pakoz | "/castsequence [nomounted]White Polar Bear Mount/castsequence [nomounted]Black War Mammoth/dismount [mounted]" |
| 05:20.03 | pakoz | it works, but it keeps giving me the error message another action is in progress whenever i summon the polar bear, but not the mammoth - it dismounts properly too |
| 05:22.08 | pastamancer | because castsequence doesn't work that way? |
| 05:22.10 | Gngsk | put the dismounted line on top? |
| 05:22.51 | pakoz | same thing |
| 05:22.52 | Megalon | why do you even use castsequences with only 1 spell? :x |
| 05:23.03 | Gngsk | get squire imo! |
| 05:23.08 | Gngsk | !mod squire |
| 05:23.14 | pakoz | actually the broke it ;x |
| 05:23.18 | pakoz | that* |
| 05:23.27 | pakoz | squire eh? |
| 05:23.31 | pakoz | !mod squire |
| 05:23.33 | pakoz | =/ |
| 05:23.44 | Gngsk | @project squire |
| 05:23.45 | Repo | Gngsk: http://www.wowace.com/projects/squire/. Squire. Game: WoW. Leader: Adirelle. Updated: 3 days ago. Tickets: 2/5 |
| 05:24.37 | pakoz | will try |
| 05:25.44 | Megalon | pakoz: what do you wanna do with that macro anyway? random mounting one of the two? |
| 05:25.51 | pakoz | yes |
| 05:26.27 | Megalon | /dismount [mounted] |
| 05:26.28 | Megalon | /castrandom White Polar Bear Mount,Black War Mammoth |
| 05:27.07 | Megalon | but i would do [mounted,noflying] or else you could hit it while flying by accident and it would dismount you |
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| 05:29.33 | Ikz | Anyone know the script command for controlling aim increment for vehicles? |
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| 05:33.23 | pakoz | @gngsk,megalon - Squire i the way to go, detects when flyable and when not flyable where the hand made macro cannot. Is there a way to exclude mounts i dont want to summon? |
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| 05:55.09 | linear` | is there any documentation on aceconfig stuff |
| 05:58.11 | linear` | nvm |
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| 06:29.39 | Hell-Razor | can anybody recomment simple, light weight unit frames? ive already tried pitbull and thats just too complex, im trying to use ag unit frames now except it doesnt show more than 1 person in the party most of the time and it errors |
| 06:30.24 | linear` | perl? |
| 06:32.58 | Hell-Razor | isnt perl a big memory hog |
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| 06:35.30 | Hjalte | I like oUF, using oUF_Caellian at the moment, but you need to edit the .lua files to configure them. |
| 06:37.12 | linear` | do u have a 5 year old computer memory doesnt really matter |
| 06:37.37 | Hell-Razor | actually yeah i do |
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| 07:02.56 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer 07unitguid * r1047 / (3 files in 1 directory): Fixed class coloring for health. |
| 07:02.56 | Repo | Fixed name updates when a unit is renamed. |
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| 07:21.16 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r132 Core.lua: YurrCombatLog: |
| 07:21.17 | Repo | - fix wrong coloring of spell auras |
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| 07:29.14 | Groktar | breaks your addons |
| 07:29.36 | asmodai | damn you |
| 07:29.47 | asmodai | goes to work |
| 07:29.56 | Hell-Razor | for pear unit frames...how do you lock them |
| 07:30.46 | Groktar | takes wow programming tips from the author of convergefu |
| 07:31.04 | Groktar | applies his new skills to your project |
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| 07:34.54 | Groktar | so what is ouf's full name? |
| 07:35.15 | Aeyan | Just oUF |
| 07:35.31 | Aeyan | I imagine it's otravi (haste) unitframes |
| 07:35.36 | Aeyan | But the project is oUF |
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| 07:37.03 | Groktar | i must be retarded |
| 07:38.22 | Groktar | i can't find it under any search string |
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| 07:40.00 | Aeyan | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9994-oUF.html |
| 07:40.16 | Groktar | there we go |
| 07:40.19 | Aeyan | or http://ixo.no/git/oUF.git/ |
| 07:40.21 | Aeyan | For the git repo |
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| 07:43.57 | Hell-Razor | hrm |
| 07:43.59 | Hell-Razor | how do i move ouf |
| 07:44.03 | Repo | 10handynotes: 03Xinhuan * r198 / (6 files in 2 directories): Localize the word "Syntax:" |
| 07:44.53 | Aeyan | Edit the lua of the layout |
| 07:44.59 | Aeyan | Down at the bottom |
| 07:45.34 | Aeyan | Looks like: oUF:Spawn('player'):SetPoint('CENTER', UIParent, -320, 0) |
| 07:46.06 | Hell-Razor | ug i dont want to do that |
| 07:46.18 | Aeyan | Then I'd avoid oUF =P |
| 07:47.40 | pastamancer | lightweight generally means the configuration is non-existant |
| 07:48.07 | krka | lightweight generally means that it's easy to configure for a programmer :) |
| 07:48.26 | Hell-Razor | ok then how about extreamly heavy weight? |
| 07:48.36 | Groktar | xperl |
| 07:48.51 | Hell-Razor | i just tried perl...i couldnt figure out how to get my frames to lock |
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| 07:49.04 | Gngsk | aguf is a nice go between |
| 07:49.22 | Zeksie | that was prolly perl classic then, cos x-perl's are only unlocked when you open options |
| 07:49.44 | Groktar | ya |
| 07:49.59 | Groktar | xperl is nice because it works out of the box |
| 07:50.08 | Groktar | just open the config, drag things around, and go |
| 07:50.12 | linear` | nurfed is pretty good too |
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| 07:52.11 | Hell-Razor | i used to use nurfed ui |
| 07:52.42 | Aeyan | I need to figure out what to do with my party bars |
| 07:53.49 | Hell-Razor | lets see a ss Aeyan |
| 07:54.14 | Aeyan | Hmm, I'll see if I can find one |
| 07:54.22 | Hell-Razor | just take one |
| 07:55.42 | Aeyan | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Aeyan/Warcraft/WoWScrnShot_112408_230440.jpg |
| 07:56.04 | Xinhuan | Zeksie, have you fixed buff/debuff filtering yet? |
| 07:56.43 | Zeksie | erm. not looked at much of anything. far too busy with getting Zek ready for raids with levelling, rep for enchants and all that |
| 07:56.55 | iphigenia | not bad ui |
| 07:57.00 | Hell-Razor | nice i like that |
| 07:57.04 | Aeyan | Thank you |
| 07:57.06 | Xinhuan | like "show only buffs i can cast" still shows every buff, all 30 of them |
| 07:57.14 | Xinhuan | similarly for debuffs i can cure |
| 07:57.32 | Xinhuan | on the raid frames that is |
| 07:57.41 | Zeksie | yeh. they changed how it all works. not even convinced the old way is possible now. will have a look at it again when i can some time |
| 07:57.51 | sb|work | morning |
| 07:57.58 | Aeyan | Mornin' |
| 07:58.13 | Xinhuan | whats your old way? |
| 07:58.28 | Bruners | is frost resistance needed anywhere in nax 10man? |
| 07:58.28 | Zeksie | pass a 1 as last parameter and it counts as castable/curable |
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| 07:58.44 | Xinhuan | ~api UnitBuff |
| 07:58.45 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitBuff |
| 07:58.46 | Zeksie | but there is no '1' param any more. it's all PLAYER, RAID etc. |
| 07:58.56 | Xinhuan | ~api UnitAura |
| 07:58.57 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitAura |
| 07:59.08 | Zeksie | i did a lot of command line checking up on that, and couldn't get it to behave as people would want (ie: the old way) |
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| 07:59.33 | Zeksie | may well have missed something, but i do remember being annoyed about it and thinking 'fuck it' |
| 07:59.34 | Zeksie | :p |
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| 07:59.40 | Xinhuan | The server at www.wowwiki.com is taking too long to respond. |
| 07:59.41 | Xinhuan | wow |
| 07:59.50 | Xinhuan | !api API_UnitAura |
| 07:59.50 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'API_UnitAura'. |
| 07:59.54 | Xinhuan | !api UnitAura |
| 07:59.54 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'UnitAura' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitAura |
| 08:00.12 | Xinhuan | This function has not yet been documented. You could document this function by logging in, and clicking the 'Edit' tab. |
| 08:00.14 | Xinhuan | awesome |
| 08:00.33 | Hell-Razor | http://www.photodump.com/Guest/efac5d3dc0aafd9d.jpg.html |
| 08:00.34 | Hell-Razor | i hate it |
| 08:00.36 | Hell-Razor | my ui |
| 08:00.39 | Hell-Razor | needs a bad overhall |
| 08:00.43 | Xinhuan | Zeksie |
| 08:00.43 | Xinhuan | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitBuff |
| 08:00.53 | Xinhuan | does the "filter" argument there not work like before anymore? |
| 08:00.58 | Xinhuan | changed? |
| 08:01.08 | Xinhuan | or is that the old documentation |
| 08:01.12 | Xinhuan | not the new one |
| 08:01.18 | Zeksie | not. totally different now |
| 08:01.26 | Hell-Razor | Aeyan, ^^ |
| 08:01.43 | CIA-50 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r26f9edd 10/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:01.43 | CIA-50 | tourguide: Revert "Remove unfinished guides in prep for release" |
| 08:01.43 | CIA-50 | tourguide: This reverts commit 6cf172bfb8f4332b51a139c449fc1dda8f56f71f. - http://is.gd/9GQn |
| 08:01.46 | CIA-50 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r738d662 10/ TourGuide_Alliance/72_73_Dragonblight.lua : More ally Dragonblight - http://is.gd/9GQo |
| 08:01.59 | NeoTron | nice. did occulus heroic with only green drakes |
| 08:02.03 | NeoTron | was a lot of fun |
| 08:02.16 | Zeksie | Xinhuan: check the top of the 2nd post of the 3.0.2 changes consise list |
| 08:02.44 | Xinhuan | yeah, i'm seeing HELPFUL, but that's not the same as castabe by player hmm |
| 08:03.05 | Zeksie | HELP/HARM is for when you use UnitAura instead of UnitBuff/UnitDebuff |
| 08:03.24 | Zeksie | i'd have expected PLAYER to behave how i wanted.. but i wasn't seeing expected results |
| 08:03.35 | Xinhuan | how does other unit frames do it |
| 08:03.38 | Xinhuan | if they do |
| 08:04.00 | Hell-Razor | Aeyan, is there a package or zip file i can dl of yours? i like it...just wonder how it does with dks...can you please pm me it if so |
| 08:05.07 | Hell-Razor | alright wtf happened to nurf ui |
| 08:05.15 | Hell-Razor | did the nurfed guild fail? |
| 08:05.24 | Cheads | Tekkub is the latest (3.0.3.42) supposed to have any Northrend data in it? (because it hasn't.. and the changelog makes you think it should have) |
| 08:05.33 | Cheads | (tourguide that is..) |
| 08:05.41 | Bruners | Hell-Razor: ouf handles DKs just fine |
| 08:06.06 | Zeksie | Xinhuan: don't know that they do or not. as i said. precious little time lately |
| 08:06.09 | Repo | 10easyserum: 03Xinhuan 07master * v1.00-1-gb6931a6 EasySerum.lua: [+1 commit] Add deDE localization. |
| 08:06.23 | Aeyan | Works fine on my death knight |
| 08:06.40 | Aeyan | I use MagicRunes to add sliding rune bars under my unitframe |
| 08:06.47 | Aeyan | But no, I don't have it uploaded anyway, sorry. |
| 08:07.30 | Cheads | Tekkub forget that, I'm blind |
| 08:07.34 | iphigenia | gotta laugh at ":(" commit message |
| 08:07.53 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 08:08.15 | Bruners | Aeyan: that looks like a fork of ouf lily |
| 08:08.28 | Aeyan | It's a modified version of p3lim's layout |
| 08:08.51 | Aeyan | Which is based off of lily, yeah. |
| 08:08.56 | Primer | Anyone aware of an issue where I can't fire the weapons on a siege vehicle in Wintergrasp? |
| 08:09.02 | Primer | re-logging doesn't help |
| 08:09.04 | Bruners | which is a fork of lily |
| 08:09.19 | Primer | I also can't do the wyrm daily for SoH because that doesn't do anything either |
| 08:09.20 | Hell-Razor | i wish i could ifgure out how to get my chat rames and minimap to combine like yours Aeyan |
| 08:10.10 | Bruners | Hell-Razor: just move them ? |
| 08:10.57 | Aeyan | I have a slight obsession with shapes and symmetry, heh |
| 08:11.03 | Hell-Razor | Bruners, but he has a cool border and his chat box is completly different |
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| 08:11.11 | Hell-Razor | Aeyan, as do i...which is why i love allign |
| 08:11.14 | Hell-Razor | align* |
| 08:11.26 | Aeyan | Borders are just kgpanels behind the stuff |
| 08:11.39 | Aeyan | Chatframe is nothing special |
| 08:11.44 | Aeyan | Chatter modified and Fane tabs |
| 08:14.09 | Hell-Razor | fane tabs? |
| 08:14.36 | Bruners | the tabs (general, private, combat log, publick, events) |
| 08:14.45 | Aeyan | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7984-Fane.html |
| 08:14.49 | Hell-Razor | cant find it on wowcae |
| 08:14.50 | Hell-Razor | ace |
| 08:14.53 | Hell-Razor | ah thanks Aeyan |
| 08:15.26 | Hell-Razor | hrm now wtf is the addon to make my bars all spiffy...im using dominos |
| 08:15.28 | Aeyan | Just changes the look of tabs a bit |
| 08:15.54 | Aeyan | I use Dominos as well |
| 08:16.15 | Bruners | i didnt like dominos |
| 08:16.20 | Aeyan | and ButtonFacade, to make them look a little different |
| 08:16.50 | Aeyan | Been thinking of ditching it though |
| 08:16.57 | Aeyan | I don't -really- need it, heh |
| 08:17.03 | Hell-Razor | dominos? or buttonfade |
| 08:17.07 | Hell-Razor | err |
| 08:17.09 | Hell-Razor | facade |
| 08:17.10 | Aeyan | buttonfacade |
| 08:17.27 | Hell-Razor | im just trying to toss everything into the least ammount of space |
| 08:17.51 | Hell-Razor | and im a clicker so thats a tid bit tough |
| 08:18.09 | Groktar | lulz clicker |
| 08:18.13 | Hell-Razor | what unit frames Aeyan |
| 08:18.20 | Aeyan | oUF |
| 08:18.25 | Aeyan | The ones you didn't like =P |
| 08:18.35 | Groktar | hehe |
| 08:18.42 | Hell-Razor | Groktar, in pvp i start freaking out and start mashing buttons so i started clicking and having very few bindings |
| 08:18.55 | Bruners | its fairly easy to move the frames |
| 08:19.12 | Groktar | i know a guy that uses click to move and keyboard turns in pvp |
| 08:19.23 | Hell-Razor | lol im not that bad |
| 08:19.28 | Primer | many are |
| 08:19.47 | Fisker- | i has hate Groktar |
| 08:20.02 | Cheads | Groktar is it Fisker- ? |
| 08:20.06 | CIA-50 | panda: 03Tekkub 07master * rd7b4722 10/ Milling.lua : Missed Anchient Lickin' for milling - http://is.gd/9GUT |
| 08:20.11 | CIA-50 | panda: 03Tekkub 07master * rba6eb34 10/ PanelFactory.lua : What, nil? NEVAR! - http://is.gd/9GUY |
| 08:20.56 | Hell-Razor | woo Primer |
| 08:21.02 | Hell-Razor | how goes it |
| 08:21.35 | Primer | I turned 80 yesterday, finally |
| 08:21.43 | Primer | and I got me a Naxx upgrade |
| 08:21.58 | Primer | but now I want to do the Wintergrasp raid, and no one wants to fucking go, and I'm pissed |
| 08:22.05 | Primer | I want to get one done before it resets |
| 08:22.24 | Groktar | is there a way to disable to main tank frames in ora2? |
| 08:22.42 | Bruners | arent they disabled by default? |
| 08:22.45 | Fisker- | haxes |
| 08:22.46 | Primer | slowly disembowels Groktar |
| 08:22.57 | Groktar | doesn't look that way |
| 08:23.51 | Hell-Razor | lol im getting pissed off at my ui |
| 08:23.54 | Hell-Razor | Primer, what are you |
| 08:24.35 | Primer | Warlock |
| 08:24.39 | Hell-Razor | ah |
| 08:24.41 | Primer | I have a 70 priest too |
| 08:24.42 | Hell-Razor | i hate my lock |
| 08:24.48 | Primer | which I've been neglecting |
| 08:24.49 | Primer | why? |
| 08:24.53 | Primer | best class in the game |
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| 08:25.43 | Hell-Razor | cause in pre lk i had like 1600 dpell damage and i was destruction and could get around 55% crit if my things went off and i coudlnt crit above 4k |
| 08:26.48 | Hell-Razor | Primer, and i was getting wtf pwned by shit i shouldnt have been |
| 08:27.09 | Primer | you suck |
| 08:27.27 | Hell-Razor | probably |
| 08:27.53 | Bruners | i like my ui http://ui.ipwn.se/i/299.jpg |
| 08:28.13 | Fisker- | i hate it |
| 08:28.16 | Hell-Razor | lol wtf |
| 08:29.28 | Hell-Razor | that circle thing would drive me nuts |
| 08:29.45 | Bruners | its just sexymap being sexy |
| 08:30.01 | Hell-Razor | hrm...anybody know what aey uses for buffs? |
| 08:30.09 | Hell-Razor | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Aeyan/Warcraft/WoWScrnShot_112408_230440.jpg |
| 08:30.38 | Bruners | buffalo maby, or ouf |
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| 08:32.24 | Quaiche | Looks like Buffalo prob |
| 08:32.40 | Hell-Razor | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:32.47 | Hell-Razor | Primer, im hurt though |
| 08:33.15 | Groktar | mmm |
| 08:33.19 | Groktar | i just discovered viewport mods |
| 08:33.21 | Groktar | i think i like |
| 08:33.42 | Hell-Razor | url? |
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| 08:34.15 | Arrowmaster | think im gona try out felguard/emberstorm for a while http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IZbxIzsgoV0sxzZVchqr0uV |
| 08:34.33 | Arrowmaster | just hit 80 today but my leveling spec fucking blew in 25 naxx |
| 08:34.45 | Hell-Razor | holey shit... my wow folder is 11 gigs |
| 08:34.47 | Arrowmaster | but ive still got lots of soloing to do |
| 08:35.19 | Groktar | going to be a lot easier to see behind me this way |
| 08:35.39 | Hell-Razor | Arrowmaster, i would do the empowered imp build if you want hella damage...or aff |
| 08:35.45 | Hell-Razor | Groktar, url to tha addon? |
| 08:36.08 | Arrowmaster | i want half awake quest soloing for loremaster |
| 08:36.38 | Hell-Razor | nooo |
| 08:36.42 | Hell-Razor | sage uf is br0ke |
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| 08:39.01 | Hell-Razor | smae with fucking buffalo |
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| 08:50.18 | Hell-Razor | well shit |
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| 09:07.48 | Repo | 10fubar_wholibfu: 03akazik 042.0 * r34 : Tagging as 2.0 |
| 09:12.57 | doom0r | Specialist Cogwheel says: Oh, these are sticky! I wonder how they shoot the webbing? |
| 09:12.58 | doom0r | Specialist Cogwheel says: ACK! Oh no, I webbed myself! It's sticky. MY HAIR! |
| 09:13.02 | doom0r | .... |
| 09:14.55 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03Xinhuan * r609 Display.lua: |
| 09:14.56 | Repo | Fix error that occurs when clicking on a GatherMate icon when inside SexyHud's HudMap. |
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| 09:17.20 | Fisker- | i'm pretty sure he wasn't shooting web doom0r |
| 09:17.32 | doom0r | it's a lil pink haired fem gnome |
| 09:18.37 | Fisker- | pink haired, yes |
| 09:18.39 | Fisker- | female, no. |
| 09:18.41 | Fisker- | :D |
| 09:19.01 | doom0r | female, yes, it's what i gave her, that got in her hair |
| 09:19.18 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03Xinhuan * r610 Constants.lua: |
| 09:19.20 | Repo | Mark Titanium nodes as a rare node of Saronite nodes (just like Rich Saronite nodes). |
| 09:25.46 | Natherul | ckknight: any chance that you will update pitbull with an option or fix so that the party hp bars change to the vehicles hp as thats really needed in oculus? |
| 09:26.24 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03Xinhuan * r611 Locales/GatherMate-frFR.lua: Fix some node names for frFR. |
| 09:26.36 | KriLL3 | doesn't party pets show that? |
| 09:28.12 | Natherul | not sure but in oculus while on dragons you have no use of players hp at all and the usuall blizz layout change from player hp to dragons hp |
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| 09:29.20 | Slayman | somebody please kill me thx |
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| 09:31.22 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03Xinhuan * r612 Locales/GatherMate-zhTW.lua: Update zhTW from andy52005. |
| 09:32.05 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03next96 * r613 Locales/GatherMate-koKR.lua: GatherMate : |
| 09:32.06 | Repo | - Update locale koKR |
| 09:32.29 | Groktar | heh, i was working on my unitframes |
| 09:32.33 | Groktar | and i needed a debuff |
| 09:32.37 | Groktar | when it occured to me |
| 09:32.40 | Groktar | DESERTER! |
| 09:33.06 | Natherul | for the greater good, eh? :D |
| 09:34.07 | Slayman | Groktar: doesn't your class provide itself with a formitable debuff? |
| 09:34.09 | Repo | 10scorchio2: 03ennuilg * r4 / (2 files in 1 directory): 0.9b2 |
| 09:34.10 | Repo | - Fixed GrowUp bug |
| 09:34.10 | Repo | - Warnings for all spells should work now |
| 09:34.11 | Repo | - Corrected typo in options |
| 09:34.37 | Groktar | warrior? |
| 09:34.37 | Slayman | @project scorchio2 |
| 09:34.38 | Repo | Slayman: http://www.wowace.com/projects/scorchio2/. Scorchio! 2. Game: WoW. Leader: ennuilg. Updated: 13 days ago |
| 09:34.45 | Groktar | can't think of one |
| 09:35.01 | Slayman | sucks to be warrior I guess |
| 09:35.50 | Groktar | hehe |
| 09:35.57 | Groktar | deserter works just fine |
| 09:36.55 | Codayus_ | Hmmm, priests get an easy one. Not sure if most other classes do. Paladins, of course... |
| 09:36.57 | Slayman | write a ticket: "I have no decent Debuffs I can afflict myself with, for working on my UnitFrames, plz halp" |
| 09:37.10 | Slayman | mages 2, shamans easy |
| 09:37.32 | Codayus_ | Yeah? My mage and shaman are both low level; nothing springs to mind. |
| 09:37.54 | Groktar | deserter is prolly the best, tbh |
| 09:37.57 | Repo | 10scorchio2: 03ennuilg 04v0.9 beta 2 * r5 : Tagging as v0.9 beta 2 |
| 09:37.57 | Slayman | Ice Cock and bloodlust |
| 09:38.02 | Groktar | since it lasts long enough to actually work on it |
| 09:38.18 | Slayman | yeah and if it fades you can go and reapply it |
| 09:38.50 | Groktar | yup |
| 09:38.52 | Groktar | :D |
| 09:39.01 | Slayman | me still no likee |
| 09:39.08 | Groktar | gonna take me a year to configure pitbull |
| 09:39.09 | Groktar | lol |
| 09:39.29 | Slayman | yeah, just don't bother. Once your finished something breaks |
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| 09:41.05 | Groktar | hehe |
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| 09:43.02 | Slayman | It's like building a cardhouse once your done it'll fall eventually |
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| 09:44.05 | doom0r | lol? |
| 09:44.15 | doom0r | i've been using the same duf layout for 3 years ;x |
| 09:44.26 | Slayman | doom0r: yeah it's monday, totally NOT my day |
| 09:44.47 | Slayman | i try to pull all of ya down to the abyss |
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| 09:45.33 | Slayman | wanna know the best thing? that sprocket successor works like a charm |
| 09:47.26 | doom0r | uh |
| 09:47.30 | doom0r | what successor? |
| 09:47.34 | Slayman | from using oPie by name |
| 09:47.59 | Slayman | does the exact same thing that sprocket did and works, as I said like a charm |
| 09:48.28 | cladhaire | oPie hides my shapeshift bar on my druid |
| 09:48.30 | cladhaire | this means i cannot use it =/ |
| 09:49.11 | Slayman | cladhaire: it does? your not using another baraddon? |
| 09:49.40 | cladhaire | No? |
| 09:49.46 | cladhaire | why would I? |
| 09:49.54 | cladhaire | there's nothing wrong with the default action bars |
| 09:50.06 | Slayman | so that baraddon can handle your stancebar so opie doesn't interfere |
| 09:50.11 | cladhaire | ... |
| 09:50.14 | Slayman | ^^ |
| 09:50.20 | cladhaire | or oPie could not be doing the wrong thing |
| 09:50.22 | Slayman | yeah did I mention i hate mondays |
| 09:50.27 | cladhaire | just becaue I _WANT_ an oPie |
| 09:50.34 | cladhaire | does not mean I want it to hide other shit on me |
| 09:50.35 | cladhaire | that's just wrong |
| 09:50.36 | doom0r | cladhaire: there's a BIG red button in the main menu |
| 09:50.39 | doom0r | show shapeshift bar |
| 09:50.39 | Slayman | cladhaire: that would actually require oPie to be ubercool |
| 09:50.41 | doom0r | it's a toggle |
| 09:50.47 | cladhaire | doom0r: Wasn't there last time I used it |
| 09:50.49 | cladhaire | good to know |
| 09:50.51 | doom0r | o |
| 09:50.55 | doom0r | maybe it was in todays update |
| 09:50.58 | doom0r | wrath8 btw |
| 09:51.13 | Slayman | w00t? new oPie? sweet |
| 09:51.16 | doom0r | yes |
| 09:51.20 | doom0r | macros by name, not id |
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| 09:51.29 | doom0r | god i hated updating macros in rings constantly |
| 09:51.30 | Slayman | not so good |
| 09:51.41 | doom0r | very good, since it hides the name for you |
| 09:51.47 | Slayman | my macros have the name " " by default |
| 09:51.59 | doom0r | mine that go on bars do |
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| 09:52.03 | doom0r | but not the ones i put in opie |
| 09:52.07 | doom0r | no need, it'll hide for you |
| 09:52.50 | Slayman | doom0r: ok that#s nice since we at least have enough macroslots now to make every macro, what for you use your opie? |
| 09:53.49 | doom0r | i have a quest ring, with toggles for the blizz default log, everyquest log, qh settings, qh tracker toggle |
| 09:54.02 | doom0r | custom mount rings, mage conjure rings, some other stuff |
| 09:54.28 | doom0r | my mage conjure ring conjures, and shows the food on modifier |
| 09:55.35 | doom0r | most of my macros aren't even real macros |
| 09:55.37 | Slayman | no sensitive need-to-cast-f'ing-fast shit? |
| 09:55.40 | doom0r | they just call functions in various addons |
| 09:55.48 | doom0r | no, kbs for that |
| 09:55.58 | doom0r | keep the utilities elsewhere |
| 09:56.02 | Repo | 10benecast: 03Wintrow2 * r120 Button.lua: Button-eventhandler didn't get a self-parameter |
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| 09:57.39 | doom0r | drives me nuts when people make an addon, that puts a button or a keybind only for something that should have a slash command toggle |
| 09:58.11 | doom0r | so i use opie and custommenufu |
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| 09:58.54 | Slayman | mmh since i have my need to cast fast and freaking important stuff on my mousebuttons 3,4,5 i just put Opie there, and the most important one as the cast on tap |
| 09:59.14 | Slayman | works very well |
| 09:59.51 | doom0r | o, i only use em as menus |
| 09:59.57 | Repo | 10tier-tooltip: 03ThiefMaster * r27 / (2 files in 1 directory): * Add T7 sets |
| 09:59.58 | Repo | * Bump TOC for 3.0.x |
| 10:00.06 | doom0r | never tried that |
| 10:00.50 | Slayman | i have CS on their the f'ing most important spell of all times, |
| 10:01.07 | Slayman | talking CS i just figured out the main issue of FFb |
| 10:01.59 | doom0r | whats ffb |
| 10:02.05 | Slayman | if you get FrostFireBolt |
| 10:02.13 | doom0r | o |
| 10:02.33 | Slayman | if that cast is hit by counterspell => frost and fireschools locked goodgame |
| 10:02.52 | doom0r | lol |
| 10:02.55 | doom0r | play a pally |
| 10:03.02 | Slayman | never |
| 10:03.08 | doom0r | cs = no spells |
| 10:03.10 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r4 / (3 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 10:03.12 | Repo | Added tooltip support, with auction data and vendor data. |
| 10:03.12 | Repo | Doesn't undercut your own auctions. |
| 10:03.13 | Repo | Colors your auctions in the UI. |
| 10:03.17 | Repo | More consistent pricing when posting stacks of multiple sizes. |
| 10:03.46 | Slayman | not going to play alliance ever again and no way there will exist a BooldElf on my account freaking ugly m*f' |
| 10:03.59 | doom0r | heh |
| 10:04.02 | doom0r | be aren't that bad |
| 10:04.07 | doom0r | i refuse to have a human though |
| 10:04.09 | Slayman | i hate em |
| 10:04.16 | Slayman | i want draenei on horde |
| 10:04.27 | Slayman | i would play an UD pala |
| 10:06.14 | Cheads | I like my BE pally =) |
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| 10:06.26 | doom0r | the question though is |
| 10:06.30 | Repo | 10tier-tooltip: 03ThiefMaster 04v1.0 * r28 : Tagging for release: v1.0 |
| 10:06.32 | doom0r | do you have ANY clue how to really play it |
| 10:06.43 | doom0r | most be's have no idea since they never raided old world |
| 10:06.56 | Slayman | i play WoW from the very first day (EU that is) started as NE Priest, played that sucker till most of BC and lately decided to cut the crap and play horde, already had a PvP Twink on 60 that time but didn't like warrior much anymore so play UD Mage, and it was a blast, still is. |
| 10:07.20 | Cheads | I only play it with 4 colleagues once a week... leveled in instances only since level 23 |
| 10:08.43 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg 04v0.2 * r5 : (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 10:08.43 | Repo | Tagging as v0.2 |
| 10:08.44 | Repo | New features: |
| 10:08.46 | Repo | - Tooltips with vendor sell price and auction value. |
| 10:08.50 | Repo | - Shows your own auctions in yellow, and doesn't undercut them. |
| 10:08.56 | Cheads | level 69 now, so only expenrience from tanking 5mans =) |
| 10:10.31 | Slayman | while talking, anyone did Ahn Kahet heroic already? that endbossthingy is kinda impossible |
| 10:11.48 | neenee | If it were easy, how would it be in any way, Heroic? |
| 10:12.06 | Arrowmaster | you obviously havent done any new heroics |
| 10:12.08 | Cheads | that Arcane Torrent comes in handy as a pally tank.. that's for sure |
| 10:12.10 | Slayman | well halls of lightning is hard but doable |
| 10:12.25 | Slayman | but ahn kahet is rather impossible |
| 10:12.36 | neenee | Nope, but I know that some people have been going through the content very quickly, suggesting it's not that difficult. |
| 10:12.45 | Arrowmaster | most of my guild has cleared every heroic |
| 10:12.48 | Slayman | that insanity thing, the groupmember copies have 12k each |
| 10:13.06 | Arrowmaster | they arent difficult at all |
| 10:13.40 | doom0r | 12k? that's it? |
| 10:13.56 | doom0r | you make it sound like that's a lot |
| 10:14.19 | Arrowmaster | my pet has 20k raidbuffed |
| 10:15.05 | doom0r | i've only done 2 instances, and i have almost 14k from just old world and greens |
| 10:15.12 | Xinhuan | Slayman: protip - if all 5 party members LoS Insanity, it does nothing |
| 10:15.18 | Xinhuan | and you can kill him in like 1.5 min |
| 10:15.22 | Slayman | doom0r: here's the kicker, every partymember has his own fantasyworld, every member has to face a copy of every other member with 12k each. to math it up: 20 mobs with 12k each |
| 10:15.26 | neenee | You made 14k, or you have 14k now, after going through the content? |
| 10:15.38 | Xinhuan | insanity is LoSable |
| 10:15.52 | Xinhuan | so if one person didn't LoS it, the other 4 can kill images for the 5th |
| 10:15.55 | doom0r | no neenee: hp |
| 10:15.59 | doom0r | as a retadin |
| 10:16.03 | Xinhuan | but since its on a 5 sec cast, all 5 ppl should just LoS it |
| 10:16.06 | neenee | ah.. ok |
| 10:16.17 | doom0r | i've made 3k in 1.5 zones since i hit 80 though |
| 10:16.23 | doom0r | fyi |
| 10:16.31 | Slayman | Xinhuan: nice tip now we need a LoS location for the encounter |
| 10:16.39 | Xinhuan | there's pillars all over |
| 10:16.45 | Xinhuan | like the 2 pillars 10 yards behind the boss |
| 10:16.54 | Xinhuan | just tank him next to it, and walk around the pillar |
| 10:16.54 | doom0r | would be way more, but i'm an enchanter, so rewards get d/e'd |
| 10:16.58 | Stanzilla | lolz, just got Mine Sweeper achievement ^^ |
| 10:18.32 | NivFreak | hrmmm |
| 10:18.38 | NivFreak | bigwigs is pretty busted in naxx |
| 10:21.59 | Slayman | Xinhuan: i take your word for it and am hopefully raping him later today with LoS abuse |
| 10:22.17 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=1862#comments:id=471746 |
| 10:22.31 | Xinhuan | comment +3 |
| 10:22.35 | Xinhuan | vote up please :) |
| 10:24.46 | Slayman | done voting |
| 10:25.05 | Slayman | you should write it under the general encounter comments though |
| 10:26.01 | Xinhuan | nah heh |
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| 10:30.45 | Groktar | www.guild-impulse.net/groktar/ui1.jpg |
| 10:30.49 | Groktar | that's what i have so far |
| 10:30.56 | Slayman | "more employees then ever surf pornsites in their worktime" it's because less employees then ever get to have sex at work |
| 10:31.13 | doom0r | you have a page not found? |
| 10:31.23 | Groktar | i guess it wasn't done uploading |
| 10:31.30 | Groktar | blames newsbin |
| 10:31.55 | doom0r | make the zoomed go away |
| 10:32.01 | Groktar | i like the zoomed |
| 10:32.07 | Groktar | it's really hard to see shit behind me |
| 10:32.11 | Groktar | when i tank |
| 10:32.15 | Groktar | going to try this out |
| 10:32.23 | Slayman | kinda crowded Groktar |
| 10:32.47 | Groktar | ya |
| 10:33.19 | Groktar | just seems like sometimes i have so much crap on my screen i can't see what i'm doing |
| 10:33.24 | doom0r | lol @ rule 32 |
| 10:33.26 | doom0r | 34 even |
| 10:34.49 | Slayman | doom0r: rules? |
| 10:34.58 | doom0r | rule 34 |
| 10:35.15 | doom0r | |
| 10:35.15 | doom0r | Rule 34: If it exists, there is porn of it. No exceptions. |
| 10:35.44 | doom0r | guild tag is rule thirty four in that ss |
| 10:36.23 | doom0r | on zarius |
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| 10:37.39 | Slayman | where do them rules originate from? |
| 10:37.49 | Slayman | s/them/those/ |
| 10:39.00 | doom0r | slayman, that would fall under rule 1 |
| 10:39.04 | doom0r | so no comment |
| 10:39.51 | doom0r | *cough* http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rules%20Of%20The%20Internet *cough* |
| 10:40.20 | neenee | Ah yes, where it states that I am a small elf that protects beer from all evil. |
| 10:40.40 | neenee | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=neenee |
| 10:41.07 | doom0r | that rule list doesn't originate there though |
| 10:41.49 | neenee | It's nothing official anyway |
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| 10:44.10 | doom0r | lol http://i35.tinypic.com/2ch13cl.jpg |
| 10:45.32 | neenee | :) |
| 10:52.34 | Groktar | grid manabars is being weird |
| 10:52.48 | Groktar | not all classes getting the same bar color |
| 10:53.06 | doom0r | i wonder why they didn't make venture bay show who controls it on the map |
| 10:53.37 | doom0r | not percentage shading is it? |
| 10:55.08 | Groktar | hmm |
| 10:55.26 | Groktar | does it have a separate config menu? |
| 10:55.35 | doom0r | o, i've never used it |
| 10:55.39 | doom0r | was just a guess |
| 11:02.14 | Groktar | reading the thread about it on wowace |
| 11:02.34 | Groktar | sounds like i should have more options than i'm seeing, which is just width/position |
| 11:05.09 | Groktar | think i'm finding it |
| 11:05.10 | Groktar | hrm |
| 11:06.02 | doom0r | that's more than extractor is showing me |
| 11:06.17 | Groktar | it seems like the runic power bar was making it look more confusing than it really was |
| 11:07.22 | doom0r | my minimap in sholazar looks like it has measels |
| 11:07.29 | doom0r | (sp?) |
| 11:10.03 | neenee | measles I think |
| 11:10.05 | doom0r | definitely measles |
| 11:13.30 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r27 Core.lua: Started working on the Proc Counter. |
| 11:15.19 | Groktar | ok, i see what grid manabars is doing. you color the bar whatever, and then it just darkens the full part |
| 11:15.25 | Groktar | kinda retarded |
| 11:15.32 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r28 / (2 files in 1 directory): Removed unused code. |
| 11:16.19 | Groktar | so if the mana bar is a nice, light blue that means they're oom |
| 11:17.18 | doom0r | heh |
| 11:17.36 | doom0r | sraidframes' alpha for rangecheck is annoying too |
| 11:17.49 | Groktar | worked ok for me |
| 11:17.59 | doom0r | doesn't help when you can't see the frame of an out of range to see if they need heals, so you can run in range |
| 11:18.17 | Groktar | well you can set the alpha however you want |
| 11:18.23 | Groktar | doesn't need tof ade out completely |
| 11:18.27 | doom0r | alpha is useless because of that |
| 11:18.33 | doom0r | they don't |
| 11:18.46 | doom0r | should be colored rather than alpha |
| 11:19.14 | Groktar | i think you must have had it set up wrong |
| 11:19.20 | doom0r | lol? |
| 11:19.36 | doom0r | default and it only having alpha as the option |
| 11:19.51 | Groktar | right so you can set the alpha to .5 or whatever |
| 11:19.54 | Groktar | and it just dims a little |
| 11:19.57 | Groktar | easy to see |
| 11:20.06 | Groktar | i set up grid the same way |
| 11:20.08 | doom0r | that is the default |
| 11:20.14 | doom0r | and not easy to see |
| 11:20.15 | Groktar | o |
| 11:30.08 | orionshock | grrr |
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| 11:30.38 | orionshock | The entire Manaforge quest(Scryer, Netherstorm) chain appears to be bork'ed in TourGuide |
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| 11:36.11 | Deviad | Hello everyone |
| 11:36.16 | Deviad | Any mage in here? |
| 11:36.46 | Deviad | I was looking at a website for the best talenttree for 3.x |
| 11:36.52 | Deviad | and I found one that should be cool |
| 11:37.11 | Repo | 10squire: 03Adirelle * r41 Core.lua: Visually indicate unknown spells in configuration panel. |
| 11:37.14 | Deviad | is LB in this: 1 LB + 7 FFB + 1 SC: 1112.93 6.54 156.24, Living bomb? |
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| 11:39.44 | Slayman | Deviad: 1LB does rarely survive 4FFb |
| 11:40.02 | Deviad | what do you mean? |
| 11:40.10 | Deviad | I have never used these spells |
| 11:40.16 | Deviad | I'm respeccing my mage from full frost |
| 11:40.21 | Deviad | I'm sorry for my ignorance :D |
| 11:40.26 | Slayman | my casting routine looks like that Sc LB sc 4ffb lb 4ffb lb sc rinse and repeat |
| 11:40.59 | Slayman | lb is living bomb yes |
| 11:40.59 | Deviad | I got it here: http://zaldinar.bounceme.net/tcom/index.php |
| 11:41.04 | doom0r | always throw something cleansable before living bomb |
| 11:41.16 | doom0r | dumb people that can cleanse will kill themselves |
| 11:41.20 | Slayman | doom0r: talking raid here |
| 11:41.33 | Deviad | doom0r, can you explain me that? |
| 11:41.41 | Slayman | if you 0/53/18 PvP you are doomed to fail epic |
| 11:41.55 | Slayman | lb nukes on dispell |
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| 11:42.10 | Deviad | Slayman, so what should I do for pvp? |
| 11:42.13 | Deviad | Stay full frost? :D |
| 11:42.31 | Slayman | Deep Arcane only choice |
| 11:42.44 | Deviad | I'd like to have some fun in instance though |
| 11:42.52 | Slayman | kiting pvp + AP + barrage => works |
| 11:43.32 | Deviad | mmm OK |
| 11:43.35 | Slayman | if you want to perform in an instance you can still go with frost should do you approximately 1300 DPS depending on gear |
| 11:43.48 | Repo | 10squire: 03Adirelle 04v1.0-beta8 * r42 : Tagging as v1.0-beta8 |
| 11:43.55 | Deviad | OK |
| 11:43.59 | Slayman | same gear and FFB Specc should at least be around 1450-1500 |
| 11:44.35 | Slayman | pvp needs mass resilience all crits have become crazy dmg |
| 11:44.35 | Deviad | Ok, in the end PVE = frost-fire |
| 11:44.38 | Deviad | pvp = arcane |
| 11:44.39 | Deviad | :D |
| 11:44.45 | Slayman | Deviad: yew |
| 11:44.51 | Deviad | I have the old gladiator + veng gloves |
| 11:45.05 | Deviad | I couldn't find a good setup for getting more veng pieces |
| 11:45.05 | Deviad | :\ |
| 11:45.31 | Deviad | I'd like to do instances and pvp without to respec every single time |
| 11:45.32 | Deviad | :D :D :D |
| 11:45.58 | Deviad | I saw people spending 50 - 100 - 150 for respeccing |
| 11:46.01 | Deviad | hahaha |
| 11:46.05 | Slayman | nonhero you can go there with not talents allocated and still do a little dmg |
| 11:47.56 | Slayman | Deviad: yeah I did that |
| 11:48.14 | Slayman | but then i quested for an hour and got more money then spent |
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| 11:50.29 | Deviad | Slayman: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/mage/talents.html?tal=00000000000000000000000000000003050320123033300531203003512033030310030000000000000000 |
| 11:50.36 | Deviad | What about this and adding 2 points on shatter? |
| 11:50.43 | Deviad | Does it effect the damage of ffb? |
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| 11:52.44 | Slayman | Deviad: yes you are an idiot |
| 11:53.02 | Slayman | check the link you gave me CLOSELY |
| 11:53.52 | Deviad | what? |
| 11:53.56 | Deviad | it's for another version? |
| 11:54.09 | Slayman | and because today is monday i tell you: tier 0 in fire needs 2 more points |
| 11:54.33 | Deviad | hehe |
| 11:54.35 | Deviad | I just saw that |
| 11:54.40 | Deviad | but I didn't make that template |
| 11:54.43 | Deviad | it comes from that website |
| 11:54.49 | Deviad | so I was surprised when I saw that myself |
| 11:54.54 | Slayman | i know, but you took it for granted |
| 11:54.54 | Deviad | I thought I did was mistaken |
| 11:54.55 | Deviad | :\ |
| 11:55.58 | Slayman | you have no points in shatter, that specc is maxRaid DPS, why RaidDPS? raidbosses to not freeze in plaze with Frostbite, so shatter will never ever be viable |
| 11:58.29 | Deviad | true |
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| 11:58.43 | Deviad | OK |
| 11:58.47 | Deviad | thanks a lot |
| 11:58.59 | Slayman | you are welcome |
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| 13:03.33 | doom0r | omg yes |
| 13:03.43 | doom0r | first mr pinchy use magical crawdad box |
| 13:06.10 | Pneumatus | got my 6th box yesterday and finally got it on the first use |
| 13:06.45 | doom0r | i got that, coin master, giant sewer rat, and black war bear since yesterday morning |
| 13:06.54 | doom0r | i should try my luck on the job market |
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| 13:07.20 | Pneumatus | gonna have a crack at the sewer rat today, then all i need is the fishing competition :< |
| 13:07.28 | Slayman | hey, could you point me to the DogTag help? the ingame thingie doesn't work for me |
| 13:07.41 | Pneumatus | ingame /dog should work :o |
| 13:07.42 | doom0r | i need comp, zg, ssc, and all the luck oens |
| 13:07.43 | Slayman | ~project DogTag |
| 13:07.50 | Slayman | @project DogTag3.0 |
| 13:07.51 | Repo | Slayman: No project found that matches 'DogTag3.0' |
| 13:07.54 | Pneumatus | http://old.wowace.com/wiki/LibDogTag-3.0 |
| 13:08.06 | Pneumatus | zg/ssc can be fished solo |
| 13:08.13 | doom0r | Slayman: because you're using an old one |
| 13:08.18 | Pneumatus | in ssc you will need water walking to run over to lurker tho |
| 13:08.34 | doom0r | can you get to it without killing the first boss? |
| 13:08.42 | doom0r | i should say |
| 13:08.42 | Slayman | ingame /dog comes up empty and an errorsound of bugsack |
| 13:08.42 | Pneumatus | yeh, just jump into the water |
| 13:08.44 | doom0r | solo |
| 13:08.49 | Pneumatus | well, make sure you levitate/water walk |
| 13:08.56 | Pneumatus | else you'll get bumrushed by phiranas |
| 13:08.59 | doom0r | as i said Slayman |
| 13:08.59 | Slayman | i let the CC do the updating for me no external libs anymore |
| 13:09.14 | Slayman | so please blame CC |
| 13:09.34 | doom0r | why? it's a library |
| 13:09.44 | doom0r | you're trying for help inside a library |
| 13:09.54 | doom0r | something an end user would not be expected to do |
| 13:10.10 | Pneumatus | actually, pretty much every addon that uses dogtag suggests /dog ingame |
| 13:10.17 | Pneumatus | due to the complexity of the config |
| 13:10.19 | doom0r | turn on alpha or go get a newer one manually |
| 13:10.50 | doom0r | most end users would use default, and you wouldn't expect much more from the normal population |
| 13:11.02 | Slayman | doesn't PitBull pull the lib when it updates? |
| 13:11.35 | Pneumatus | Slayman: when you get a PitBull update, the latest version of DogTag at the moment it was zipped gets included |
| 13:12.22 | Slayman | that far I can follow, but i thought once the library get's an update it'll be pushed into the pitbull package |
| 13:12.38 | quiescens | nope |
| 13:12.44 | Pneumatus | only on alphas, which you cant get with the curse client |
| 13:13.19 | Slayman | so what you say can be put together in: CC is kinda sux, get the addons another way |
| 13:13.39 | Pneumatus | the curse client isn't to blame for not providing alphas, the addon service is |
| 13:14.34 | Slayman | but to the unknowing me an Alpha is kinda not really functional by definition |
| 13:14.46 | Pneumatus | anyway, try updating PitBull manually to an alpha, and then when the CC goes to update, it wont touch it until a newer release is availavle |
| 13:15.21 | Pneumatus | im assuming you're not using the alpha3 of the curse client, as that doesnt even update anything :P |
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| 13:24.17 | Slayman | damn disconnects |
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| 14:12.10 | Fisker- | 415 is the FR cap for Sapphiron? |
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| 14:12.55 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r21 MillHelp.lua: small tweak for handling non-translated locales |
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| 14:18.26 | SpawN | http://www.sexyemilie.com/?id=217840 |
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| 14:24.02 | Pneumatus | lua> 83*5 |
| 14:24.03 | lua_bot | Pneumatus: 415 |
| 14:24.07 | Pneumatus | yes Fisker- |
| 14:24.13 | Pneumatus | not that you need any, really |
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| 14:35.00 | RaydenUni | oh fail |
| 14:35.04 | RaydenUni | my desktop doesn't have wrath on it yet |
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| 14:40.35 | Ithato | good morning, is anyone familiar with an addon other than hitsmode that allows redirecting *some* combat messages to alternate chatframes? |
| 14:41.01 | Ithato | i have a combat log window and then two frames that show only damage numbers incoming/outgoing, similar to how Eavesdrop can be set up |
| 14:41.34 | Ithato | but HitsMode is quite hefty for basically just that purpose |
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| 14:59.20 | Droolio | anyone seeing lots of empty comments on their wowace addon pages today? |
| 15:00.20 | Droolio | ah nm, seems the users have already been banned |
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| 15:04.11 | Repo | 10cartographer: 03AbydosLanti * r2290 Cartographer.lua: LibUpdate |
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| 15:06.25 | KriLL3 | why does handynotes rightclick menus vanish a split second after opening em? :\ |
| 15:07.38 | doom0r | don't experience that |
| 15:07.57 | doom0r | sure you're not trying to interact with multiple objects? |
| 15:08.17 | KriLL3 | nope |
| 15:08.20 | Sirow | <-- having the same prob |
| 15:08.21 | KriLL3 | I'm using mapster though |
| 15:08.28 | Sirow | <- same |
| 15:08.34 | doom0r | i'm using cart2, not having that |
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| 15:19.25 | ckknight | hey all |
| 15:19.49 | abydoslanti | hey |
| 15:22.38 | Fisker- | sup my BBFF ckknight |
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| 15:22.51 | ckknight | BBFF? |
| 15:23.08 | Fisker- | You go guess what that extra B stands for |
| 15:23.09 | Fisker- | hoho |
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| 15:30.18 | exor674 | Butt Buddies For Forever? |
| 15:34.20 | Fisker- | Best BoyFriend Forever |
| 15:34.20 | Fisker- | :E |
| 15:34.29 | Fisker- | but the butt buddies one is good as well |
| 15:36.17 | dodga | KriLL3: I experience that when I'm flying around and (sub-)zones change |
| 15:37.17 | dodga | And yes, annoying as hell. Even more so, I'd like to change that "jump to current zone when it changes" feature off, because when I use the taxi service I want to set a waypoint in a different zone and before I can even right-click somewhere it jumps back |
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| 15:46.49 | LvKe | "Oh shit, it's that guy again." |
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| 15:54.38 | winkiller | anyone knows which addon that was that showed which recipes you can craft on your alts? |
| 15:56.03 | Hirsute | I used ProfessionsBook for that. |
| 15:56.24 | Hirsute | Though it didn't get updated right away and I've disabled it. Haven't checked to see if it's working now. |
| 15:57.15 | winkiller | thanks |
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| 16:12.23 | AckisWork | so I have 114 pages of "files" for ARL... easy way to delete some of the old ones? |
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| 16:15.53 | Anaral | Shift click then hit the delete key? |
| 16:16.52 | AckisWork | lol on wowace |
| 16:18.50 | Anaral | Oh |
| 16:18.56 | Anaral | Um, no clue. |
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| 16:20.27 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03Xinhuan * r614 Constants.lua: Fix Saronite/Titanium nodes rareid mix up. |
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| 16:32.33 | Repo | 10track-o-matique: 03StingerSoft * r38 / (2 files in 1 directory): ruRU update |
| 16:33.54 | basslingo | AckisWork: you on a mac? |
| 16:34.07 | AckisWork | basslingo: neg |
| 16:34.13 | basslingo | then no |
| 16:34.21 | basslingo | if you where i'd say applescript |
| 16:34.32 | basslingo | you can tell it to submit a URL form multi times ;) |
| 16:35.05 | basslingo | hell, i even have an anti-afk script for WoW in applescript |
| 16:35.12 | basslingo | tells me to jump every 4 minutes |
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| 16:40.20 | KriLL3 | tells you or actually jumps? |
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| 16:42.27 | Vulcanus | AckisWork: you could try something like Macro Magic (software I used to cheat in Kings of Chaos back when that was the shait), or open a hell of a lot of tabs XD |
| 16:43.48 | Vulcanus | either something is anally violating my connection, or ARL is getting quite heavy XD |
| 16:46.03 | AckisWork | what do you mean? |
| 16:46.32 | erikh | heh |
| 16:46.37 | erikh | autoit |
| 16:46.48 | erikh | savior of gold farmers everywhere |
| 16:47.11 | thul | If the FBI's motivating factor for busting down the Koresh compound was child abuse, how come we never see Bradley tanks smashing into Catholic churches? |
| 16:47.58 | Vulcanus | it took a long time to download via the CC, now that kaelten fixed the service issue that prevented it from updating prop XD |
| 16:48.27 | AckisWork | should be a connecting issue |
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| 16:48.36 | Kaelten | AckisWork: how big is ARL? |
| 16:49.14 | Vulcanus | 5.54 mb unzipped incl libs |
| 16:49.29 | erikh | wait, is this a "I've got to hit a bunch of websites and scrape content" problem? |
| 16:49.29 | AckisWork | 1.2 MB zipped |
| 16:49.35 | erikh | get perl and WWW::Mechanize |
| 16:49.38 | erikh | tool of champions |
| 16:49.59 | Hirsute | thul: Because the guilty parties haven't holed themselves up in their churches with stockpiles of weapons to prevent due process? |
| 16:50.12 | Kaelten | erikh: beautiful soup is good too |
| 16:50.17 | Kaelten | for python |
| 16:50.32 | thul | Hirsute: something like that, yes :-P |
| 16:50.35 | erikh | I don't use python much myself.. I just know that mech has made things stupidly easy |
| 16:50.58 | Hirsute | Barring that, there's also just the combination of perl and wget.... |
| 16:51.08 | erikh | that's basically what mechanize does |
| 16:51.31 | Hirsute | That's how I scrape the armory for item data. |
| 16:51.34 | erikh | but you can say, "fill the text element named 'foo' in with x data on the form 'y'" |
| 16:51.45 | Hirsute | Nice |
| 16:51.46 | erikh | and it jsut handles tracking the cookies and whatnot in the background. |
| 16:51.59 | erikh | yeah, we use it here for acceptance testing |
| 16:52.03 | Hirsute | Overkill for what I needed, but very, very nice. |
| 16:52.31 | erikh | http://search.cpan.org/~petdance/WWW-Mechanize-1.52/lib/WWW/Mechanize.pm |
| 16:52.33 | Hirsute | I'll have to look into it to see if I can get a perl script setup to autolog my compy onto the network at school where they use web-based authentication. |
| 16:52.44 | erikh | yep, that'll do it np. |
| 16:52.50 | erikh | in fact, it'll be a short script. :) |
| 16:54.23 | Repo | 10baldrick: 03LordFarlander * r105 / (2 files in 2 directories): Baldrick: |
| 16:54.24 | Repo | - Various Wrath daily quest fixes |
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| 17:00.42 | basslingo | im not much of a perl guy myself, but thats real nice lookin |
| 17:01.48 | ckknight | perl is icky |
| 17:01.53 | ckknight | :-P |
| 17:02.15 | Anaral | I <3 Perl |
| 17:02.21 | Anaral | wait |
| 17:02.23 | ckknight | it's a write-only language |
| 17:02.25 | Anaral | wrong perl |
| 17:02.29 | Anaral | lol |
| 17:02.33 | ckknight | purl ≠perl |
| 17:02.38 | Anaral | right right |
| 17:02.44 | Anaral | brain isn't all working |
| 17:03.17 | Anaral | I wish authors would put their wowace forum link on their project pages. |
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| 17:03.53 | asmodai | holy moly |
| 17:03.58 | asmodai | updates on my curse client :| |
| 17:04.06 | asmodai | Kaelten: what did you do? :P |
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| 17:04.34 | Kaelten | asmodai: the data service it was pulling from had it's importer crash |
| 17:04.39 | asmodai | :( |
| 17:04.46 | Pneumatus | oh, i can roll back to alpha3 and it will work then? |
| 17:04.52 | asmodai | alpha 3 works for me |
| 17:04.59 | asmodai | got like 12 updates waiting for me |
| 17:05.02 | Hirsute | I love perl for the things I use it for. Very handy. But that may just be because it's on of only a few languages with which I'm familiar. |
| 17:05.10 | asmodai | perl == ewww |
| 17:05.14 | Pneumatus | the the updatermobile! |
| 17:08.16 | Fisker- | slaps Kaelten around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:08.20 | Pneumatus | Kaelten: does the alpha build update service provide alphas yet? |
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| 17:08.42 | Fisker- | no updates on my curse client :( |
| 17:09.06 | Kaelten | if username == 'fisker': return 'DIAF' |
| 17:09.10 | Kaelten | :) |
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| 17:09.19 | Pneumatus | 16 updates just appeared :) |
| 17:09.20 | asmodai | what's diaf actually? |
| 17:09.24 | Industrial | die in a fire |
| 17:09.25 | Kaelten | die in a fire |
| 17:09.25 | Pneumatus | die in a fire |
| 17:09.29 | Kaelten | woot i won! |
| 17:09.30 | Industrial | kkty |
| 17:09.32 | Industrial | i won! |
| 17:09.34 | asmodai | where does that one come from? |
| 17:09.35 | Pneumatus | Industrial won |
| 17:09.36 | Fisker- | mine isn't fisker though :( |
| 17:09.41 | Kaelten | really? mine showed up first |
| 17:09.45 | Knaledge | what popular addon is forcing comparison tooltips on every item? namely quest rewards |
| 17:09.46 | Industrial | not here :p' |
| 17:09.48 | Kaelten | Fisker-: it knows :P |
| 17:09.51 | Knaledge | what popular addon is forcing comparison tooltips on every item? namely quest rewards |
| 17:09.53 | asmodai | industrial showed up for me as the first one :( |
| 17:09.54 | Knaledge | woops, sorry. |
| 17:10.00 | Kaelten | damn |
| 17:10.01 | NivFreak | so, why did the mac curse client stop detecting updates |
| 17:10.04 | Kaelten | you win this time indy! |
| 17:10.08 | NivFreak | but still picks them up when I force updates |
| 17:10.08 | Industrial | muhahaha |
| 17:10.22 | Pneumatus | mIRC always writes your data to the chat window before sending it, it doesnt wait to recieve it back from the ircd |
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| 17:10.31 | Industrial | ew, why |
| 17:10.47 | Industrial | like |
| 17:10.55 | Fisker- | [18:07:48] <Industrial> die in a fire |
| 17:10.55 | basslingo | NivFreak, mine does that too |
| 17:10.55 | Fisker- | [18:07:49] <@Kaelten> die in a fire |
| 17:10.55 | Fisker- | [18:07:49] <Pneumatus> die in a fire |
| 17:10.56 | Industrial | i made a chat client for school in java and even I did not do that |
| 17:10.57 | Fisker- | he won |
| 17:10.59 | Fisker- | get over it |
| 17:11.00 | Fisker- | :E |
| 17:11.15 | NivFreak | basslingo: it's irritating |
| 17:11.21 | NivFreak | Kolie: ping |
| 17:11.25 | basslingo | NivFreak: ya |
| 17:11.52 | Knaledge | I'm a bit lost all - anyone mind looking at my addons and giving me an idea as to what might be causing comparison tooltips for EVERY FREAKING ITEM?!?! hehe.. it's a bit annoying. |
| 17:12.05 | NivFreak | NeoTron: update MagicDKP's LibBabble-Zone! |
| 17:12.06 | Pneumatus | an ircd really has no reason to send what you sent back to you, after all you know what you sent :o |
| 17:12.07 | asmodai | ratingbuster? |
| 17:12.10 | Knaledge | I've tried enabling/disabling addons but it's lengthy |
| 17:12.10 | asmodai | tekkompare? |
| 17:12.16 | Knaledge | I have RB |
| 17:12.28 | Knaledge | anything tooltip I can think of is... RB, SellFish, and... |
| 17:12.38 | Knaledge | Atlas/AtlasLoot |
| 17:12.42 | Knaledge | BankItems |
| 17:12.51 | Pneumatus | disable everything then enable each addon one by one |
| 17:12.53 | Knaledge | that's all I believe |
| 17:12.54 | Tinyboom | meh, link to alpha3 anyone? |
| 17:13.04 | asmodai | Pneumatus: or the binary search method :) |
| 17:13.18 | basslingo | Binary search ftw |
| 17:13.19 | Pneumatus | or binary search, which is less fun |
| 17:13.24 | Knaledge | what is that? |
| 17:13.32 | Pneumatus | less logging in and out |
| 17:13.54 | Knaledge | I use Ampere |
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| 17:13.58 | Pneumatus | binary search = disable half your addons, if it persists disable another half, etc etc |
| 17:14.11 | basslingo | yup |
| 17:14.18 | Knaledge | ah.. well, I disabled RB and its still happening |
| 17:14.28 | Knaledge | ofc I have more to try but.. |
| 17:14.44 | Knaledge | baffled as to what is doing this without my explicit request to do so.. kind of invasive. |
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| 17:15.10 | Tinyboom | nvm, found it in channel log :p |
| 17:15.13 | Knaledge | because with the other tooltip info I am feeding into the tips, the compares are MASSIVE.. like screen wide. |
| 17:15.28 | basslingo | disable whole list, enable half (top), login, if (problem) logout, disable 1/2 of remaining top enabled, login, repeat |
| 17:15.33 | Whitetooth | any addon with "compare" in it |
| 17:15.45 | Whitetooth | EquipCompare tekCompare |
| 17:15.48 | Knaledge | none of those |
| 17:16.52 | Vulcanus | does anybody know if DBM v4 is more efficient than v3? I really like how you can click away timers in DBM, which you can't in BigWigs, but if it's too inefficient I'd rather not enable it :p |
| 17:16.57 | asmodai | classloot |
| 17:17.23 | Fisker- | why would you click away timers? :E |
| 17:18.07 | Knaledge | I have everything but align 1.06 and ampere disabled |
| 17:18.10 | Knaledge | it's still happening. |
| 17:18.20 | Vulcanus | I do in BGs as I don't care about Horde tower caps if Im defending frostwolf towers, and if there was timers I wouldn't need to pay attention to I'd rather click them off and not have them draw attention |
| 17:18.25 | Knaledge | is there some friggin UI option??? |
| 17:18.41 | Hirsute | Possibly. |
| 17:18.59 | Knaledge | well I can't decipher which it is then |
| 17:19.07 | Knaledge | any ideas? |
| 17:19.18 | Knaledge | Also - does Ampere /rl count as disabling addons? |
| 17:20.37 | Knaledge | what is... |
| 17:20.40 | Knaledge | SET gameTip "19" |
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| 17:21.29 | FroMaster | Anyone know if Sexymap can display the AntTrails from QuestHelper? |
| 17:21.38 | Pneumatus | Maps to Game : Interface : Help : Loading Screen Tips This is used to determine which Loading Screen tip will display next. It increments every time you login, starting at 1 the first time a character logs in. |
| 17:22.13 | Knaledge | hrm... |
| 17:22.22 | Knaledge | well . unless disabling addons via Ampere doesn't count... |
| 17:22.23 | Knaledge | I'm lost. |
| 17:22.37 | Knaledge | everything but ampere is off. and it's still happening. |
| 17:22.39 | Knaledge | wtf.. |
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| 17:23.19 | Vulcanus | check char addon screen just to be safe |
| 17:23.22 | Tinyboom | Knaledge: actually considered going out to the char menu and really disabling them? |
| 17:23.44 | Knaledge | amagad tinyboom, such insight. |
| 17:23.56 | Knaledge | I never DID consider that... thank god you said something there. |
| 17:24.06 | Knaledge | really, thanks. |
| 17:24.08 | Knaledge | really. |
| 17:24.21 | Tinyboom | temper temper :) i know you did consider it, but you still haven't done that have you? ;) |
| 17:24.22 | Vulcanus | Sarcasm detector code red :p |
| 17:24.42 | Knaledge | I have, actually. it doesn't work. It's still happening. |
| 17:24.59 | Whitetooth | rename WTF and start fresh, copy stuff back bit by bit |
| 17:25.21 | Knaledge | but.. if the addon isn't loaded |
| 17:25.24 | Knaledge | why would that matter? |
| 17:25.37 | Whitetooth | prob some wierd setting |
| 17:25.38 | Knaledge | it shouldb't be passing .lua vars if the addon is not loaded |
| 17:25.49 | Whitetooth | not everything in WTF is from addons |
| 17:25.53 | Knaledge | maybe config.wtf ? |
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| 17:26.19 | Knaledge | I copied config.wtf from mac but I never used it, I just set the window resolution to something that is on Mac but not on Windows... was screwing up my layout |
| 17:26.27 | Pneumatus | right, anyone know of an addon (pref fubar based) that switches your reputations depending on who you got rep with last and shows your current rep progress as a percentage? |
| 17:26.50 | Knaledge | repwatcher |
| 17:26.51 | basslingo | Fubar_RepFu |
| 17:26.55 | Knaledge | or.. something along thosel ines. |
| 17:27.09 | Knaledge | yeah that one works too but I think it's all error-ry. |
| 17:27.16 | Knaledge | in Northrend |
| 17:27.32 | basslingo | dunno, dont have it reinstalled since WotLK patch |
| 17:27.48 | Tinyboom | rep2 works and fuxpfu |
| 17:27.50 | basslingo | had to get a new HDD so addons are on a reinstall when needed basis lol |
| 17:28.27 | Knaledge | wait... is the extended tooltips in the default UI somehow.. |
| 17:28.29 | Knaledge | doing this/ |
| 17:28.38 | basslingo | maybe |
| 17:29.20 | neenee | Yup, there's Beginner Tooltips in there |
| 17:29.28 | Knaledge | yeah, that's not it. |
| 17:29.30 | Knaledge | =/ goddamn. |
| 17:30.55 | Vulcanus | if everything else fails, complete and total reinstall from discs |
| 17:31.04 | Knaledge | at the very top of the tooltip it shows "Currently Equipped" in gray text |
| 17:31.07 | Knaledge | if that matters. |
| 17:31.13 | Vulcanus | that's a comparison addon |
| 17:31.21 | Knaledge | yeah but... all addons are disabled. |
| 17:31.28 | Vulcanus | so your addons arent fully disabled |
| 17:31.34 | Knaledge | I exited the game |
| 17:31.39 | Knaledge | and launched with everything off. |
| 17:31.48 | Vulcanus | tried renaming interface folder? |
| 17:31.56 | Vulcanus | same with WTF folder |
| 17:32.26 | Knaledge | I copied and deleted WTF and Interface |
| 17:32.28 | Knaledge | same deal. |
| 17:33.24 | Knaledge | or rather, deleted the save vars folder |
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| 17:33.48 | Vulcanus | ye well the entire wtf folder should go, there might be cache files |
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| 17:34.51 | Whitetooth | since you already know its not the addons, so its not the saved vars folder |
| 17:35.06 | Primer | Man, I really thought the flying carpet was going to be cool |
| 17:35.17 | Primer | but why OH WHY did blizz have to make it a vehicle!? |
| 17:35.27 | basslingo | lol ya |
| 17:35.29 | Primer | there's this whole animation to get off the damn thing |
| 17:35.41 | Primer | every time I mount it, it turns my fucking camera around |
| 17:35.59 | Primer | unlike a normal mount, I can't just cast from it (expecting to be dismounted) |
| 17:36.05 | pentium166 | i really hope vehicles get more polish |
| 17:36.21 | Primer | and the worst part: IsFlying() == false |
| 17:38.06 | basslingo | quick thought..... does anyone know of any vehicles in Azeroth area (non-XPack... either of em) |
| 17:38.36 | Vulcanus | primer: you get free achievement (the get caught in mines one) |
| 17:38.39 | Knaledge | ok.. so |
| 17:38.39 | basslingo | cause if there is, i wonder if they thought of someone tryin to use the carpet there (since IsFlying()==False) |
| 17:38.46 | Knaledge | I deleted WTF entirely |
| 17:38.52 | Knaledge | exited the game |
| 17:38.55 | Knaledge | re-launched |
| 17:38.59 | Knaledge | disabled all addons |
| 17:39.04 | Knaledge | it's still... there. |
| 17:39.17 | basslingo | Knaledge: Mac version? |
| 17:39.24 | Knaledge | no, Windows version |
| 17:39.30 | Knaledge | I'm on my Bootcamp install |
| 17:39.35 | basslingo | ah -.- |
| 17:39.38 | Whitetooth | did you delete wtf before or after exiting the game? |
| 17:39.42 | Knaledge | before |
| 17:39.46 | basslingo | did you delete the Cache folder? |
| 17:39.46 | Primer | Vulcanus: never heard of this |
| 17:39.56 | Knaledge | but I'm looking now, everything looks default |
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| 17:40.05 | Whitetooth | you need to do it after or wow saves stuff in WTF when exiting |
| 17:40.26 | Knaledge | k trying again |
| 17:40.36 | Primer | So I'm still trying to get some sort of "flying mount" detection going in my addon |
| 17:40.38 | Vulcanus | Primer: http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=1428 |
| 17:41.15 | Primer | thing is, I don't want to use IsFlying() because that only reports true if you're actually flying. e.g. it's false if you're mounted on your flying mount, and it's on the ground |
| 17:41.42 | Primer | Vulcanus: you're dismounted as you approach that field |
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| 17:42.04 | Knaledge | RAGGGGEEEEEE |
| 17:42.10 | Knaledge | it is still. happening. |
| 17:42.15 | pentium166 | Knaledge: ...is your shift key stuck? |
| 17:42.20 | Knaledge | I don't think so |
| 17:42.20 | basslingo | hehe |
| 17:42.30 | Whitetooth | lol |
| 17:42.34 | Knaledge | I mean I'm using the mac keyboard, the... flat alimunim one. |
| 17:42.39 | basslingo | yea |
| 17:42.42 | basslingo | im on a mac |
| 17:43.02 | Knaledge | I'm in Windows - I don't know if the ame thing happens under Mac |
| 17:43.10 | Knaledge | that suck COCK if it was the keyboard.. |
| 17:43.16 | Knaledge | $50 :( |
| 17:43.16 | basslingo | although id just rather use my mac version of wow and run my bootcamp via VMWare |
| 17:43.33 | Knaledge | yeah but I'm testing a new VoIP prgram |
| 17:43.34 | basslingo | Knaledge: Thats what the AppleCare plan is for |
| 17:43.35 | basslingo | ;) |
| 17:43.42 | Knaledge | on a keyboard? |
| 17:43.46 | basslingo | ive gone through 3 keyboards and 2 harddrives |
| 17:43.48 | basslingo | ya |
| 17:43.48 | Knaledge | I mean.. it makes sense ... |
| 17:43.52 | Knaledge | how much is it? |
| 17:43.53 | basslingo | it covers EVERYTHING |
| 17:43.53 | EthanCentaurai | Knaledge? |
| 17:43.56 | EthanCentaurai | oops |
| 17:44.14 | EthanCentaurai | Knaledge: repair tool? reinstall WoW? |
| 17:44.15 | Knaledge | like $10 on the keyboard for AC? |
| 17:44.31 | Knaledge | EthanCentauri I guess I could do that but.. damnit if that seems retarded. |
| 17:44.33 | basslingo | with applecare, all repairs are free |
| 17:44.41 | Knaledge | yeah I know but how much for it |
| 17:44.46 | Knaledge | AC itself on the keyboard |
| 17:44.56 | basslingo | Applecare covers the whole comp |
| 17:45.06 | Knaledge | oh, yeah I have a 2006 Mac Pro |
| 17:45.10 | asmodai | Given the price of Apple hardware it better. |
| 17:45.10 | Knaledge | that option is long gone. |
| 17:45.12 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03StingerSoft * r219 locale-ruRU.lua: TradeskillInfo: |
| 17:45.13 | Repo | - ruRU update |
| 17:45.24 | basslingo | ah |
| 17:45.36 | Knaledge | 16 GB of RAM though, 3870 xfire on Windows |
| 17:45.39 | basslingo | well, try running the repair.exe |
| 17:45.41 | Knaledge | 150 raptor |
| 17:45.54 | Knaledge | I mean, it is a nice machine still... but yeah. I felt AC was too much at the time. |
| 17:46.03 | Knaledge | repair. exe? |
| 17:46.08 | basslingo | for wow |
| 17:46.14 | Knaledge | what does that do exactly ? kill my folders and what,.. |
| 17:46.22 | *** join/#wowace Belazor (n=Vulcanus@19513452009.customer.cdi.no) |
| 17:46.29 | Knaledge | as in, what more than what I've done, |
| 17:46.31 | Whitetooth | so maybe you want to test if its the shift key or not |
| 17:46.41 | basslingo | kills ur addons/wtf/cache and does a CRC check on ur files |
| 17:46.46 | Knaledge | yeah, I'm typing this now right? |
| 17:46.52 | Knaledge | so, that's a pretty good test. |
| 17:46.56 | pentium166 | is caps on? :p |
| 17:47.05 | Knaledge | haha... no the light isn't on |
| 17:47.12 | Knaledge | THIS IS WITH IT ON NOW |
| 17:47.16 | Knaledge | off |
| 17:47.19 | basslingo | hehe |
| 17:47.32 | Knaledge | this is caps with shift held |
| 17:47.56 | Knaledge | *caps lock ^^ |
| 17:48.04 | basslingo | oh, in your config file |
| 17:48.06 | Primer | So far I've been unable to find any event or api call that can tell me if I'm in control of a flying vehicle |
| 17:48.11 | basslingo | what did you say ur tooltip was called |
| 17:48.21 | Knaledge | there was newbie tip |
| 17:48.25 | Knaledge | and.. gameTip |
| 17:48.32 | Primer | Does anyone here have any idea if this is at all possible? |
| 17:48.37 | Knaledge | but gameTip with a var like "19" seemed like load screen related |
| 17:48.42 | basslingo | what was gametip set to? |
| 17:48.44 | Knaledge | and pneum pointed that out |
| 17:48.48 | Knaledge | "19" |
| 17:48.54 | basslingo | SET gameTip "28" |
| 17:48.57 | basslingo | thats what i have |
| 17:49.05 | Knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:49.16 | Knaledge | increments every time you load |
| 17:49.42 | basslingo | SET showGameTips "0" |
| 17:50.07 | Knaledge | seems a bit archaic since it's not truly random... what's gameTip "9999" - how to gold farm and not get caught? |
| 17:50.14 | Knaledge | that's how the chinese do it then... |
| 17:50.16 | basslingo | lol |
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| 17:50.50 | Knaledge | I'd imagine showGameTips maps to whether or not laod screen tips are shown. |
| 17:50.51 | basslingo | that and the SET installType "Retail" |
| 17:53.27 | basslingo | Knaledge: try booting into mac and using that version :P |
| 17:53.36 | basslingo | see if ya still got the problem |
| 17:53.56 | Knaledge | hah.. yeah I guess I could. then I'd be disappinted if it worked.. because it'd be harded to go back to WoW on Windows and I need to test this VoIP program |
| 17:54.10 | basslingo | VMWare |
| 17:54.12 | Knaledge | which is saying alot.. but it;s worth it since it's going to be competition for Ventrilo |
| 17:54.14 | basslingo | or Paralells |
| 17:54.16 | Knaledge | and I fucking hate Ventrilo |
| 17:54.18 | basslingo | or Crossover ;) |
| 17:54.40 | basslingo | Crossover would be my first thing to try as its wine based |
| 17:54.54 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03kunda * r615 Locales/GatherMate-deDE.lua: deDE update |
| 17:55.12 | Primer | everyone uses ventrilo |
| 17:55.25 | Primer | you'll be on your voip program alone...while everyone else is on vent |
| 17:55.44 | ulic | Primer: except for the people that don't. :) |
| 17:55.59 | Primer | that don't...what? |
| 17:56.05 | doom0r|away | a lot of people that play really bad fps use teamspeak |
| 17:56.06 | Primer | use vent? |
| 17:56.18 | ulic | everyone uses ventrilo except the people that don't. |
| 17:56.22 | Primer | heh, I prefer TS |
| 17:56.28 | Primer | since TS has a Linux client |
| 17:56.30 | doom0r | ya, got it the first time ulic |
| 17:56.45 | Primer | sorry, coffee still hasn't fully taken effect |
| 17:57.01 | Knaledge | TS is garbage though |
| 17:57.11 | Knaledge | and ventrilo is only popular because it's the only choice |
| 17:57.20 | Primer | why is TS garbage? |
| 17:57.22 | Knaledge | believe me... this new one is the shit and its lightweight, powerful |
| 17:57.28 | Primer | And it's called...? |
| 17:57.33 | Knaledge | TS uses old tech, bloated code, |
| 17:57.37 | Knaledge | MohawkVoice |
| 17:57.41 | basslingo | >.> <.< who cares about mac/linux clients when we have wine ;) |
| 17:57.42 | Primer | Linux client |
| 17:57.43 | Primer | ? |
| 17:57.46 | Knaledge | yep |
| 17:57.49 | Knaledge | testing that too |
| 17:57.51 | basslingo | (and yes im a mac user) |
| 17:58.01 | Primer | basslingo: because vent in wine while wow is playing == wow crashes, here |
| 17:58.08 | Primer | even with audio disabled in wow |
| 17:58.09 | Knaledge | it has a mac client in milestone, linux and windows client in beta |
| 17:58.22 | basslingo | lol |
| 17:58.24 | basslingo | ouch |
| 17:58.34 | basslingo | Primer: linux? |
| 17:58.43 | Primer | plus the keybind for keying up stops working after a while when it doesn't crash |
| 17:58.51 | Knaledge | believe it or not, linux is a platform you must address nowadays |
| 17:58.55 | Knaledge | it's considered "niche" |
| 17:58.58 | Primer | err, do you know of any other platform people use wine to play games on? |
| 17:59.00 | basslingo | ya, i have the keybind issue on mac |
| 17:59.05 | Knaledge | and if you can grab that market, it's guaranteed "sales" |
| 17:59.09 | basslingo | WHEN im usin the windows client |
| 17:59.37 | Primer | at one point I was able to get both wow and vent working with wine, both having sound |
| 17:59.42 | Primer | now, one crashes the other |
| 18:00.03 | Knaledge | you can play WoW on linux now? |
| 18:00.08 | Primer | oh boy |
| 18:00.10 | basslingo | .... |
| 18:00.12 | doom0r | ..... |
| 18:00.14 | Knaledge | ;p |
| 18:00.21 | Knaledge | bustin balls. |
| 18:00.21 | basslingo | since like forever ago ;) |
| 18:00.25 | basslingo | hehe |
| 18:00.41 | Knaledge | but seriously, check out MohawkVoice |
| 18:00.47 | doom0r | more like, you can run opengl on windows now? |
| 18:00.54 | Knaledge | at the very least on windows |
| 18:01.14 | Knaledge | opengl is driven by mac and windows |
| 18:01.21 | Knaledge | sorry to say but linux only uses it because it's open. |
| 18:01.39 | doom0r | opengl support in drivers in windows is absolute crap |
| 18:01.47 | Knaledge | not entirely true |
| 18:01.53 | Knaledge | vanilla sure |
| 18:02.12 | Primer | say what? |
| 18:02.32 | Knaledge | yeah how main stream is linux? oh that's right not very. |
| 18:02.37 | Knaledge | Mac specifically OSX |
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| 18:02.42 | doom0r | i had to turn off my second video card to get above 5 fps in windows with doom3 |
| 18:02.44 | Knaledge | there's your OpenGL driver |
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| 18:02.59 | Knaledge | .windows maybe not so much anymore, especially since DX 9 |
| 18:03.13 | LvKe | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.39 | basslingo | <-- every comp is mac in the house |
| 18:03.50 | Primer | <-- has more Linux boxes than windows boxes |
| 18:04.18 | Knaledge | for the price, Mac is the way to go for versatility |
| 18:04.18 | doom0r | Knaledge: you realize how old dx9 is right? |
| 18:04.27 | Vulcanus | <-- has a Vista x64 desktop and laptop |
| 18:04.35 | Vulcanus | Knaledge: ROFL |
| 18:04.50 | Knaledge | Look at the numbers, macs are not as pricey as they once were |
| 18:04.55 | Knaledge | and for "it just works" hardware pairing |
| 18:05.03 | Knaledge | I'd pay $500 more msrp |
| 18:05.09 | Knaledge | because thta;s the average |
| 18:05.11 | basslingo | oh and note to all u mac users lua requires a freakin "_" before all funct. names in loadlib -.- |
| 18:05.12 | doom0r | 500 more? |
| 18:05.12 | Knaledge | $220 - $500 |
| 18:05.16 | Knaledge | yeah |
| 18:05.21 | Knaledge | I invent in apple and dell. |
| 18:05.21 | doom0r | i can build a normal non gaming box for 500 |
| 18:05.27 | Knaledge | you know, with stock and bond. |
| 18:05.40 | Knaledge | I research,, not just bandwagon internet QQ |
| 18:06.01 | Knaledge | try it out. |
| 18:06.01 | Knaledge | *invest |
| 18:06.01 | doom0r | bandwagon? |
| 18:06.01 | Primer | s/research/troll/ |
| 18:06.01 | Knaledge | sorry but "mac is expensive" is old hat. |
| 18:06.07 | doom0r | oh, and look at michael dell's salary vs layoffs |
| 18:06.10 | Knaledge | it's more money sure |
| 18:06.14 | basslingo | yup |
| 18:06.19 | Knaledge | dell is a strong buy |
| 18:06.32 | Knaledge | trending out they show strength to purchase now and gain later |
| 18:06.38 | basslingo | im still using an old PowerPC G3 |
| 18:06.38 | Knaledge | now if you invested years ago... |
| 18:06.40 | Knaledge | today you;d be fucked. |
| 18:06.43 | basslingo | works fine still |
| 18:07.49 | Knaledge | either way, yeah Macs are more expensive but not by much comparatively spec for spec. And considering I can: run linux, run OSX, run Windows, and what's more - do all of that virtual if need be (vm) |
| 18:08.05 | Knaledge | considering how the hardware "jsut works" and has great support (really what you;re paying for)... |
| 18:08.15 | Knaledge | I'd fork over $220-$500 more any day for that |
| 18:08.19 | Knaledge | that's what made Dell popular.. |
| 18:08.23 | Knaledge | Dell jsut never evolved. |
| 18:08.33 | Knaledge | (as in, YOY -/+ 2 yrs) |
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| 18:09.43 | Knaledge | not to say there's no or little value in DIY - do what works for you. But it's very very old hat circa 1999-2002 thinking Apple is still not a competitor for your dollars. |
| 18:10.37 | EvilJohn | uh |
| 18:10.38 | EvilJohn | no |
| 18:10.44 | Knaledge | good arguement. |
| 18:10.46 | Knaledge | I see your point. |
| 18:11.08 | Knaledge | when you graduate from play money, then come to big boy table |
| 18:11.08 | EvilJohn | if you're going to factor gamign into the discussion, it's not even close |
| 18:11.17 | EvilJohn | oh, i'm hurt |
| 18:11.27 | Knaledge | then what is your arguement? |
| 18:11.30 | basslingo | gaming.... |
| 18:11.32 | basslingo | lol |
| 18:11.33 | EvilJohn | gaming |
| 18:11.34 | Knaledge | bootcamp |
| 18:11.37 | Knaledge | solved. |
| 18:11.38 | EvilJohn | doesn't help |
| 18:11.40 | basslingo | Mac gaming > all |
| 18:11.49 | erikh | I love macs, but really |
| 18:11.50 | Knaledge | how so? how is bootcamp not an option? |
| 18:11.52 | erikh | you have to be kidding me |
| 18:12.05 | Knaledge | I would agree if you could buy OSX separate and install it anywhere |
| 18:12.07 | EvilJohn | the graphics hard is underpowered, especially on the moble options |
| 18:12.09 | Knaledge | but can only do that on a Mac |
| 18:12.18 | erikh | mac graphics are really, really underpowered |
| 18:12.20 | basslingo | actualy Knaledge |
| 18:12.22 | doom0r | Knaledge: no |
| 18:12.23 | Knaledge | 9600 outside of alienware is unheard of |
| 18:12.27 | EvilJohn | ahah |
| 18:12.28 | EvilJohn | false |
| 18:12.30 | basslingo | u can run mac on pc's |
| 18:12.32 | basslingo | IF |
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| 18:12.36 | Knaledge | yeah, and check the polls |
| 18:12.36 | basslingo | it has the same bios |
| 18:12.39 | doom0r | licensing limitations vary by residence |
| 18:12.40 | basslingo | but thats a big iff |
| 18:12.43 | EvilJohn | I just dropped 1300 on a gateway laptop from best buy |
| 18:12.44 | Knaledge | those users who osx86 |
| 18:12.49 | EvilJohn | has a 9600 GT in it |
| 18:12.49 | Knaledge | they prefer mac over hack |
| 18:12.53 | erikh | osx86 breaks everytime a patch comes out |
| 18:12.56 | erikh | literally. |
| 18:12.57 | Knaledge | yeah - now you did |
| 18:12.59 | basslingo | not saying its completely legal, but it still works |
| 18:13.11 | Knaledge | gaming is a weak arguement |
| 18:13.13 | Knaledge | why? |
| 18:13.14 | EvilJohn | I can spend 3grand on a top end macbook that won't run wow that well |
| 18:13.15 | Knaledge | because it can be done |
| 18:13.21 | Knaledge | and people do it successfully. |
| 18:13.23 | erikh | I wouldn't use a mac to seriously game anyways |
| 18:13.26 | Knaledge | you're stuck in 2002 |
| 18:13.27 | Knaledge | get real |
| 18:13.29 | erikh | i'd use it for something productive |
| 18:13.37 | doom0r | why would i ever need osx? i can run unix, linux, bsd, w/e |
| 18:13.38 | trh | with osx86 you really see how bad macos is :) |
| 18:13.38 | EvilJohn | if you're happy with mediocrity, then yes you're argument is valid |
| 18:13.41 | EvilJohn | but that isn't what you said |
| 18:13.42 | erikh | oh god |
| 18:13.45 | erikh | disappears |
| 18:13.55 | Repo | 10breakables: 03Parnic * r9 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 18:13.55 | Repo | - added options for maximum number of breakables to list, whether or not to hide the bar when no breakables are present |
| 18:13.56 | Repo | - added sorting so that multiple stacks separated in a player's inventory don't jump around on the bar when they are broken |
| 18:14.01 | Repo | - added AceConfig support (which apparently requires AceGUI?) though it doesn't do much at the moment |
| 18:14.04 | Knaledge | seriously - think about |
| 18:14.07 | Knaledge | 8800 GT is availabe on OSX |
| 18:14.12 | Knaledge | now for CI and QE/CE maybe not so good |
| 18:14.18 | Knaledge | but for OPenGL and DX9/10 |
| 18:14.28 | Knaledge | what can't you play that you'd not have to buy higher anyhow? |
| 18:14.42 | Knaledge | and SLi works if it is same card |
| 18:14.51 | Knaledge | so X2 is the counter-point to SLi |
| 18:15.05 | EvilJohn | 8800 GT isn't all that fast |
| 18:15.06 | erikh | my sli 8600 kit moans on far cry 2 |
| 18:15.08 | Knaledge | if crysis is your arguement for weak mac gaming.. |
| 18:15.16 | erikh | and bioshock gave it a hard time |
| 18:15.17 | Knaledge | (or crytek engine I should say) |
| 18:15.21 | Knaledge | oh please.. |
| 18:15.26 | Knaledge | maybe on some dumpy Mac |
| 18:15.32 | erikh | no, it's a sli kit |
| 18:15.33 | erikh | on a pc. |
| 18:15.34 | Knaledge | but considered Mac PRo is a $2500 machine or less... |
| 18:15.36 | erikh | with a dual core |
| 18:15.43 | Knaledge | ok let's go that route |
| 18:15.51 | erikh | ugh |
| 18:15.54 | erikh | you are a twit. |
| 18:15.59 | Knaledge | Mac Pro, 2006 right now you can buy it for $1699 |
| 18:16.00 | EvilJohn | price it out |
| 18:16.10 | Knaledge | that's a dual, dual core 2.66 |
| 18:16.12 | Knaledge | 2GB ram |
| 18:16.16 | EvilJohn | video card? |
| 18:16.27 | Knaledge | 7300 GT stock, 8800 GT optional |
| 18:16.31 | Knaledge | which can be had for $!50 |
| 18:16.34 | Knaledge | $150 |
| 18:16.39 | Knaledge | so what... $1800 after tax? |
| 18:16.43 | basslingo | Knaledge |
| 18:16.45 | basslingo | depends |
| 18:17.01 | basslingo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:17.09 | EvilJohn | a mac pro? |
| 18:17.10 | Knaledge | go build a true 2x 2x core machine for $1800 |
| 18:17.21 | Knaledge | not a stiched together quad core |
| 18:17.24 | basslingo | macbook pro |
| 18:17.28 | Knaledge | no |
| 18:17.30 | Knaledge | Mac Pro |
| 18:17.32 | Knaledge | not macboook pro |
| 18:17.33 | erikh | wtf needs that for gaming |
| 18:17.34 | erikh | really now |
| 18:17.40 | erikh | again |
| 18:17.40 | Knaledge | it's the same price |
| 18:17.41 | erikh | twit. |
| 18:17.44 | NivFreak | so I hear a ton of windows WoWers bitching about in dalaran |
| 18:17.44 | Knaledge | same price. |
| 18:17.51 | NivFreak | and I have zero on my mac laptop |
| 18:17.55 | EvilJohn | the apple store doesn't have it at that price |
| 18:18.02 | erikh | NivFreak: there are plenty of reasons macs are nice |
| 18:18.04 | Knaledge | 2008 Mac Pro |
| 18:18.05 | erikh | just not hearing them here :) |
| 18:18.11 | Knaledge | 2006 you have to go outside of Apple |
| 18:18.15 | basslingo | NivFreak: i have issues ONLY when i turn all the graphics up hehe |
| 18:18.16 | EvilJohn | $2,299.00 |
| 18:18.23 | Knaledge | 2008... |
| 18:18.25 | Knaledge | not 2006. |
| 18:18.31 | Knaledge | so go find a 2006 mac Pro |
| 18:18.37 | EvilJohn | oh |
| 18:18.38 | EvilJohn | used |
| 18:18.38 | NivFreak | basslingo: I was guessing it was shadows |
| 18:18.39 | Knaledge | which is only now coming around in PCs |
| 18:18.42 | Knaledge | no, not used |
| 18:18.46 | EvilJohn | or refurb |
| 18:18.47 | Knaledge | MacMall |
| 18:18.49 | Knaledge | not refurb |
| 18:18.56 | Knaledge | I just bought two NIB 2006 Mac Pros |
| 18:18.59 | Knaledge | MacMall |
| 18:19.04 | basslingo | NivFreak: ya, something was causing 4fps -.- |
| 18:19.04 | Knaledge | or newegg |
| 18:19.11 | Knaledge | or goddamn google it. |
| 18:20.09 | Knaledge | and you know? $2299 for an octo core mac (2x quad cores) with 2GB ram stock and a ... 2600XT? |
| 18:20.13 | Knaledge | not bad. |
| 18:20.22 | Knaledge | throw in a EFix'd 9800 GT |
| 18:20.25 | Knaledge | or a stock 8800 GT.. |
| 18:20.41 | Knaledge | and that's dir from Apple - again, Mac Mall that shit or go refurb |
| 18:20.44 | EvilJohn | no that's not bad |
| 18:20.46 | Knaledge | even less. |
| 18:21.07 | Knaledge | it's old hat thinking Mac /= gaming |
| 18:21.18 | Knaledge | and doubly so thinking it's wicked expensive |
| 18:21.23 | EvilJohn | uh |
| 18:21.24 | EvilJohn | no |
| 18:21.30 | EvilJohn | the gaming performance is still blah on the video card |
| 18:21.34 | Knaledge | how? |
| 18:21.46 | doom0r|away | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Macintosh_games |
| 18:21.47 | Knaledge | again, what more can you get a on PC that you wouldn't buy anyways? |
| 18:21.49 | doom0r|away | small list |
| 18:21.53 | Knaledge | oh come on... |
| 18:21.54 | Knaledge | bootcamp. |
| 18:21.55 | EvilJohn | $1,949.00 - Mac Pro 4-Core |
| 18:21.55 | EvilJohn | 2.66GHz(2DC)/1GB/250/7300GT/SD |
| 18:21.55 | EvilJohn | - CLOSEOUT MODEL - |
| 18:22.05 | EvilJohn | get off the bootcamp, we get you can dual boot hte machine already |
| 18:22.10 | doom0r|away | goes to the store |
| 18:22.10 | EvilJohn | we figured that out |
| 18:22.23 | EvilJohn | with 1 gig of ram |
| 18:22.33 | EvilJohn | 667MHz even |
| 18:22.35 | EvilJohn | ew |
| 18:24.13 | Knaledge | average joe pc user still has that |
| 18:24.25 | Knaledge | and really, outside of CPU |
| 18:24.35 | Knaledge | 667 gains not much at 1300 |
| 18:24.41 | Knaledge | true it's older |
| 18:24.47 | EvilJohn | and only 1 gig |
| 18:24.52 | Knaledge | but you're dealing with 2006, granted my recommendation |
| 18:25.06 | EvilJohn | not the 2 you said |
| 18:25.10 | Knaledge | you can find better deals, perhaps it was this weekend that I found mine |
| 18:25.32 | Knaledge | but I went through MacMall and was on MacRumors forum for deals |
| 18:26.28 | Knaledge | bottom line is - you have to buy windows right? you have to buy hardware yes? so unles you specifically plan on buying a video card that can specifically handle crysis or far cry 2 |
| 18:26.46 | Knaledge | for the money, considering everthing else you get with the package |
| 18:26.59 | Knaledge | my opinion is Mac, then PC |
| 18:27.39 | EvilJohn | no, I don't buy windows, I have 3 licenses already |
| 18:27.48 | pentium166 | i've been using the same copy of xp since college |
| 18:27.50 | Knaledge | that's so obtuse.. |
| 18:27.57 | Knaledge | you boughti t at some point right? |
| 18:27.59 | EvilJohn | I swap out my components on a fairly regular basis |
| 18:28.03 | Knaledge | divesting... |
| 18:28.05 | Knaledge | read. |
| 18:28.10 | EvilJohn | yes, but it's money I already spent |
| 18:28.15 | EvilJohn | and I don't have spend again |
| 18:28.15 | Knaledge | whats the point? |
| 18:28.24 | Knaledge | ... so why would you need to? |
| 18:28.32 | Knaledge | you're the one buying a new computer |
| 18:28.40 | Knaledge | mac or no, you need a license yeah? |
| 18:28.43 | Knaledge | it's all relative. |
| 18:28.52 | Knaledge | and swapping components lasts you tops 2 years |
| 18:28.54 | Knaledge | maybe 3 |
| 18:29.01 | EvilJohn | depends how often you swap |
| 18:29.10 | Knaledge | but you can't keep a straight face claiming your four year old motherboard runs a 8800 GT |
| 18:29.14 | Knaledge | because it doesnt. |
| 18:29.25 | EvilJohn | okay dude |
| 18:29.29 | Knaledge | it doesn't. |
| 18:29.32 | EvilJohn | you've just hit the zealot line |
| 18:29.54 | Knaledge | find me a 4yr old mobo that runs PCI-E |
| 18:29.56 | NivFreak | I personally am not a fan of mac desktops |
| 18:29.59 | NivFreak | I love my laptop though |
| 18:30.18 | NivFreak | Knaledge: I think I have a 4x one in a server |
| 18:30.28 | Knaledge | not PCI-X |
| 18:30.32 | NivFreak | I'm aware |
| 18:30.36 | Knaledge | or PCI-Express |
| 18:30.43 | Knaledge | fair enough |
| 18:30.48 | EvilJohn | i don't understand what you're talking about |
| 18:30.52 | Knaledge | exactly |
| 18:30.54 | Knaledge | you dont. |
| 18:30.59 | EvilJohn | i have no idea where this 4 year old motherboard came from |
| 18:31.01 | Knaledge | we can have that conversation |
| 18:31.06 | EvilJohn | or where you're getting htis information from |
| 18:31.30 | Knaledge | it comes from you stating you swap out your components, which is a supporting claim for the arguement that money spent is money you dont spend again. |
| 18:31.43 | Knaledge | specificaly speaking to "I already bought windows why would I buy it again" |
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| 18:31.59 | Knaledge | which speaks further to the arguement of needing to buy components to maintain pace with playing the latest games. |
| 18:32.05 | EvilJohn | all I know so for factually is that every bit information you've asserted so far about prices and perfrmance have been wrong, with the excpetion of "Apples run boot camp" and "the upgrade fee for a 8800 GT is $150" |
| 18:32.12 | Knaledge | my counter point is that at some point, you will need ti upgrade eveything, not just a card. |
| 18:32.45 | Knaledge | I never mae claims on performance outside of it compares to windows spec for spec |
| 18:32.47 | Knaledge | *PC |
| 18:32.53 | Knaledge | and price is subjective |
| 18:32.58 | Knaledge | you suck at googling. |
| 18:33.02 | Knaledge | subjective. |
| 18:33.07 | doom0r|away | you're gonna have to upgrade a mac too |
| 18:33.08 | doom0r|away | gl with that |
| 18:33.12 | Knaledge | what GL? |
| 18:33.14 | EvilJohn | i went the location you're suggested |
| 18:33.28 | EvilJohn | it was $200 more, contained less ram, and I didn't see a way up grade the card |
| 18:33.29 | Knaledge | I just dropped in a 4870 X2 in the Mac |
| 18:33.38 | Knaledge | and it works fine under OSX once I efixd it |
| 18:33.49 | Knaledge | otherwise, get a 3870 X2 |
| 18:34.24 | Knaledge | doom0r - that's another phantom stigma around Macs now |
| 18:34.31 | Knaledge | yeas maybe in PPC days, very true. |
| 18:34.35 | Knaledge | if not... /maybe. |
| 18:34.36 | EvilJohn | so the gaming performance of around 2k is a 8800 gt with 1 gig of ram |
| 18:34.45 | EvilJohn | pretty sure I can beat that with pc hardware |
| 18:35.35 | Knaledge | go for it - you go build yourself a 1k PSU, 1GB RAM, 2x 2.66 "C2D", PCI-E 2.0, 16GB capable, 8 channel SATA machine |
| 18:35.44 | Knaledge | you;ll be at or not $2 |
| 18:35.49 | *** join/#wowace Zenom (n=Zenom@unaffiliated/aj1973) |
| 18:35.59 | Knaledge | don;t cheat and get a quad core. |
| 18:36.00 | Zenom | what are the latest sites for beginning wow programming |
| 18:36.03 | Knaledge | not the same thing |
| 18:36.42 | Knaledge | oh and a case, and a dvd burner, and a keyboard, and a mouse, and let.s see... |
| 18:36.53 | Knaledge | oh and a 250GB hdd... |
| 18:37.01 | EvilJohn | most which is hardly beneficial the gaming performance of the machine, but I already have a case and a mouse and keyboard and a dvd burner |
| 18:37.07 | EvilJohn | so you can sped tha tmoney |
| 18:37.08 | EvilJohn | I don't need to |
| 18:37.36 | Knaledge | fair enough - so minus the case, keyboard, burner, and mouse - all minor items |
| 18:37.46 | Knaledge | you've still got plenty of spending to keep up with what I've got. |
| 18:38.02 | EvilJohn | I suppose |
| 18:38.04 | Knaledge | it's no fluke the 06/08 Mac Pros sell fast, all the time |
| 18:38.23 | Knaledge | hell, I just bought two for the simple fact that were $1700 |
| 18:38.31 | Knaledge | that's a hell of a deal. |
| 18:38.46 | Knaledge | I don't have t upgrade now for... shit.. |
| 18:38.52 | Knaledge | at least 2 more years. |
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| 18:39.20 | Knaledge | had I bought these 2 ish years ago... come on. That divested cost over 3-4 years is just over $650/yr. |
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| 18:45.10 | Repo | 10grid-side-indicators: 03kunda 04v0.5 * r39 : Tagging as v0.5 |
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| 18:51.52 | Deviad | Re everyone |
| 18:52.10 | Deviad | Can anyone tell me where should I go after Grizzly hills once I've reached lvl 75' |
| 18:52.11 | Deviad | ? |
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| 18:52.30 | Stanzilla | Deviad: zuldrak |
| 18:52.38 | sacarasc | http://www.wowwiki.com/Zones_by_level |
| 18:52.38 | Deviad | are there some quest circuits? |
| 18:52.53 | Deviad | sacarasc, thank you so much! |
| 18:52.56 | RaydenUni | Three Death Knights walk into a bar |
| 18:52.57 | RaydenUni | finish it |
| 18:53.04 | sacarasc | ouch |
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| 19:06.24 | NeoTron | ordered his new system. |
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| 19:15.17 | Aeyan | chrono |
| 19:15.25 | Aeyan | mt |
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| 19:17.27 | Zhinjio | G'morning, folks. |
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| 19:18.49 | EthanCentaurai | good evening Zhinjio :) |
| 19:20.32 | RaydenUni | i am not looking forward to leveling my LW from 300-375 |
| 19:22.12 | Megalon | RaydenUni: it's actually pretty easy as you can go northrend mats at 350 :) |
| 19:22.36 | RaydenUni | orly? |
| 19:22.37 | RaydenUni | sweet |
| 19:23.23 | NeoTron | I'm not looking forward to leveling inscription from 437 to 450 |
| 19:23.24 | RaydenUni | well i have a bank full of leather from all of my outlands skinning |
| 19:23.27 | RaydenUni | hope it lasts me |
| 19:23.30 | RaydenUni | heh |
| 19:23.35 | NeoTron | 3 eternal life and a slew of other items per point |
| 19:24.14 | RaydenUni | are there leatherworking bags? |
| 19:25.47 | NeoTron | alchemy was a breeze to level up |
| 19:28.52 | pentium166 | yay blacksmithing. |
| 19:28.52 | RaydenUni | recommend a leatherworking mod? |
| 19:28.56 | RaydenUni | skillet? |
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| 19:30.38 | Zhinjio | can you give me a quick idea of what skillet has over atsw? |
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| 19:35.42 | linear` | if i wanted to send a giant string to be loadstring'ed would using acecomm and acebucket be an easy way to do that |
| 19:41.03 | RaydenUni | combuctor |
| 19:41.03 | RaydenUni | i have a leatherworking bag |
| 19:41.03 | RaydenUni | none of my leather shows up in the "all" view |
| 19:41.28 | RaydenUni | only the trade goods view |
| 19:41.28 | RaydenUni | intended behavior? |
| 19:44.55 | iphigenia | i dont think so. you sure you got the newest build? |
| 19:45.13 | RaydenUni | i dunno |
| 19:45.13 | RaydenUni | depends on if the curse updater got it |
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| 19:45.23 | Repo | 10call-to-arms: 03sylvanaar * r58 / (6 files in 1 directory): merge back to trunk. |
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| 19:45.29 | opant2 | anyone know of a inscription addon? allows to filter by minor/major? |
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| 19:45.32 | Anaral | I am not sure, but I think you can set Lil'Sparky's Skillet to sort that way. |
| 19:45.35 | Zhinjio | I made major/minor custom sorting categories in atsw |
| 19:46.31 | Anaral | As I said iphigenia, I wasn't sure. ;) |
| 19:46.33 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar 04RC8 * r166 : Tagging as RC8 |
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| 19:48.57 | EthanCentaurai | opant2: Tekkub's Panda can do this I think |
| 19:49.26 | Funkeh` | 8!? |
| 19:49.34 | Funkeh` | crunching through thm there sylvanaar |
| 19:49.52 | Repo | 10accomplishment: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.0.3-release-3-g9d69028 Core.lua: [+3 commits] |
| 19:49.53 | Repo | 9d69028: "Number of names" option fixed and working! |
| 19:49.53 | Repo | 97efae6: Tweak frame height a bit more. |
| 19:49.56 | Repo | 9a821c0: Add option to choose the maximum number of names shown in the list. |
| 19:50.47 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` prat is huge, what can i say |
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| 19:53.19 | EthanCentaurai | speaking of Prat, may I take over http://www.wowace.com/projects/prat_signon/ given that CipherSoft seems to be awol? |
| 19:53.36 | Fisker- | why so srs_ |
| 19:53.37 | Fisker- | ? |
| 19:53.40 | xyu | ... |
| 19:54.06 | doom0r|away | so i just bought http://www.allsop.com/mousepads-and-wrist-rests/wrist-assist-black- |
| 19:54.14 | doom0r | hope it helps |
| 19:54.24 | xyu | helps with what? |
| 19:54.31 | xyu | your wrist sliding off your table? |
| 19:54.31 | doom0r | right click hell |
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| 19:54.54 | doom0r | right clicking is killing my wrist becasue of the angle my hand sits |
| 19:55.34 | xyu | ah~ that's probably going to feel very uncomfortable for the first 10 hours. make it through and it'll help. |
| 19:55.36 | doom0r | that should help my wrist float properly |
| 19:55.49 | doom0r | it already does, but it takes stress off |
| 19:55.59 | Kaelten | fucking pricks |
| 19:56.00 | Fisker- | wtf doom0r |
| 19:56.02 | Fisker- | you repel me |
| 19:56.06 | Fisker- | hides |
| 19:56.11 | EthanCentaurai | whats wrong Kaelten? |
| 19:56.24 | Kaelten | tracked down what a spammer from a few days ago was trying to do |
| 19:56.28 | doom0r | ~lart Fisker- |
| 19:56.28 | purl | squeezes Fisker- till Fisker- turns blue like papa smurf |
| 19:56.37 | Kaelten | hope not too many people are using old versions of flash |
| 19:56.37 | Kaelten | sighs |
| 19:56.59 | Stanzilla | click hijacking? |
| 19:57.09 | doom0r | that crap with qh? |
| 19:57.14 | Fisker- | Well i guess that's where those "OMG I INSTALLED QUESTHELPER NOW MY ACCOUNT IS COMPROMISED"-stuff came from |
| 19:57.32 | Kaelten | not sure exactly what the hacks did |
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| 19:57.45 | EthanCentaurai | hehe I use http://noscript.net/ so no clickjacking for me :) |
| 19:57.48 | Kaelten | but the empty comments was targeting old versions of flash |
| 19:57.52 | AckisWork | Kaelten: the QH == virus was from Friday I think if that helps out any |
| 19:58.03 | EthanCentaurai | trojans/password stealers probably |
| 19:58.07 | Kaelten | well |
| 19:58.11 | Kaelten | if anyone did get infected |
| 19:58.22 | doom0r | ya, no probs here either, i limit what comes in |
| 19:58.25 | Kaelten | they probably haven't gotten around to using the passwords |
| 19:58.36 | Kaelten | they hold onto those things for weeks months |
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| 19:59.13 | sylvanaar | EthanCentaurai you can as far as I am concerned |
| 19:59.39 | Primer | even if I ever did get a keylogger, I never type my username |
| 19:59.49 | EthanCentaurai | Kaelten: http://www.wowace.com/comments/15045-lookat/ is this one such message? |
| 20:00.01 | Primer | as I have "save username" checked |
| 20:00.23 | Kaelten | EthanCentaurai: yep |
| 20:00.29 | doom0r | Primer: ever log into the account management? |
| 20:00.30 | EthanCentaurai | :/ |
| 20:00.32 | Kaelten | we plugged the whole in the parser |
| 20:00.36 | Primer | doom0r: nope |
| 20:00.38 | Pneumatus | Kaelten: was curse.com affected? |
| 20:00.44 | Kaelten | Pneumatus: no |
| 20:00.47 | Primer | doom0r: I have firefox save that anyhow |
| 20:00.50 | doom0r | i'm sure that would still hurt some though |
| 20:01.00 | Primer | so I'm not typing it if I ever do |
| 20:01.01 | doom0r | Primer: that's a joke easy to deal with |
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| 20:01.17 | Primer | doom0r: meaning...? |
| 20:01.23 | doom0r | you ever see the couple lines of js to dump everything in mem? |
| 20:02.00 | Primer | and keyloggers do this? |
| 20:02.06 | Hjalte | What is the name of the addon that allows you to set eg. the skull to always be the target of a certain raid member? |
| 20:02.11 | Primer | afaik, keyloggers log key strokes |
| 20:02.34 | doom0r | and a well planned attack would take care of stored pws in ff |
| 20:02.43 | doom0r | just saying, it's not foolproof |
| 20:02.45 | Primer | it'd have to be pretty well planned |
| 20:02.54 | Primer | especially since I do all my web browsing from Linux |
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| 20:03.54 | Kaelten | I know he was specifically targeting flash 9, sub r124 |
| 20:04.24 | Primer | Ok, I know I've asked this before, but I must ask again: Is there a library/database of "all flying mounts"? Note, libperiodictable is not the answer |
| 20:04.48 | Pneumatus | did you email out the exploit in subscription emails as well? |
| 20:04.51 | Zhinjio | G'morning, Kaelten |
| 20:05.02 | Kaelten | heya zhin |
| 20:05.22 | doom0r | Primer: you mean precompiled able to be played with without building a table yourself? |
| 20:05.48 | AckisWork | hey Kaelten is there an eta of viewing the diffs of the files online for wowace/CF? |
| 20:05.48 | doom0r | or just a very frequently updated list? |
| 20:05.54 | Primer | doom0r: I'd rather not scrape a db, so...yeah |
| 20:06.01 | Primer | either/or |
| 20:06.05 | doom0r | you could checkout warcraftmounts.com |
| 20:06.15 | doom0r | pretty much to the point |
| 20:06.43 | Primer | basically I want to know if I've got the buff of a flying mount |
| 20:06.48 | Primer | it's that simple |
| 20:07.45 | Primer | IsFlying() only returns true if you're actually flying (for those about to write "Use IsFlying()") |
| 20:07.58 | Kaelten | Pneumatus: emails where sent, but it broke the hack |
| 20:09.00 | Pneumatus | well, thats good news at least |
| 20:09.35 | EthanCentaurai | can a nice admin make me project lead of http://www.wowace.com/projects/prat_signon/ please? :) |
| 20:11.12 | EthanCentaurai | sylvanaar: is there a way for Prat modules to force other modules to modify message data before another? I ask because AltNames adds the alt's name to the beginning of messages modified by SignOn and I don't want that :/ |
| 20:11.39 | EthanCentaurai | i.e. (Lucaria) Member Greyhammer has logged on |
| 20:12.37 | Primer | doom0r: this list seems very up to date and comprehensive...problem is, no differentiation between flying vs. non-flying, and no spellids |
| 20:12.40 | Repo | 10accomplishment: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.0.3-release-4-g9030b9b Core.lua: [+1 commit] Remove debug scripting |
| 20:13.12 | sylvanaar | EthanCentaurai yes, you register a section of the chat string specifically for your module. |
| 20:14.17 | AckisWork | @project accomplishment |
| 20:14.17 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/accomplishment/. Accomplishment. Game: WoW. Leader: ethancentaurai. Updated: 8 days ago |
| 20:14.37 | Kaelten | anyone else see any of the broken comments |
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| 20:15.37 | sylvanaar | EthanCentaurai you can also use the PreAddMessage event, if Altnames uses FrameMessage |
| 20:17.43 | doom0r | Primer: is there any flying mount that isn't taught by an item? |
| 20:18.15 | AckisWork | doom0r: the broomstikes maybe? |
| 20:18.19 | Kaelten | EthanCentaurai: did you try contacting chiper? |
| 20:18.35 | EthanCentaurai | I have, no response yet |
| 20:18.42 | doom0r | rephrase: any flying mount that is only in any form a spell |
| 20:18.51 | doom0r | since that would be an exception |
| 20:19.01 | doom0r | well, i guess i'll trump myself |
| 20:19.05 | EthanCentaurai | doom0r: Acherus Deathcharger |
| 20:19.18 | doom0r | and the holly |
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| 20:20.49 | doom0r | so aside from those conditions Primer: http://www.wowhead.com/?items=15.-7 |
| 20:21.11 | Primer | doom0r: My understanding is that they're all spellid based now |
| 20:21.23 | doom0r | well, you want to compile a list |
| 20:21.25 | Primer | so matching on an itemid wont' work |
| 20:21.29 | Primer | I'm doing that now |
| 20:21.44 | doom0r | you want to check if you're mounted? or if you have the spell to mount? |
| 20:22.00 | doom0r | s/spell/own/ |
| 20:22.07 | doom0r | meh, fail |
| 20:23.08 | doom0r | own the spell |
| 20:23.20 | Daemona | *gargl* anyone know why ArkInventory is screwing up lately? it kinda locks me out my own bags by graying the bags out, probably a strata problem? |
| 20:23.27 | Daemona | its totally random |
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| 20:34.10 | Repo | 10fortress: 03Borlox 07master * 1.11-beta1-2-g6e69700 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 20:34.11 | Repo | 6e69700: - added warning for data objects without .type attribute set |
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| 20:36.10 | Xinhuan | ~dict filament |
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| 20:37.33 | doom0r | best guild recruitment string you've ever seen? |
| 20:37.35 | doom0r | <We arent Idiots> Is a swedish guild looking for spanish players that speak russian with an italian accent. We currently need everything we can get and we follow the basic Tank 'n' Spank tactics. |
| 20:38.20 | iphigenia | classy! |
| 20:41.55 | Repo | 10action-combat: 03simlan * r72 / (5 files in 1 directory): Basic Death Knight support |
| 20:41.57 | gix | "We also have a tabard" is missing there |
| 20:42.09 | gix | no, "We also have tabard" |
| 20:42.25 | pastamancer | and a guild bank |
| 20:42.59 | doom0r | no, we have a website, and a link to a free hosting, dirty ad infested site |
| 20:43.21 | Megalon | teamspeak server on the way! |
| 20:43.25 | doom0r | and "hosted in <random little noname country here>" |
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| 20:45.02 | EthanCentaurai | <Nine Idiots Signed My Charter> are looking for likeminded idiots for fun chats and maybe the odd dungeon. we are a social guild, so no hardcore raids/PvP here. If you don't like us, push off! :P |
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| 20:48.25 | doom0r | epic EthanCentaurai |
| 20:48.35 | EthanCentaurai | :) |
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| 20:50.12 | Hjalte | Is there an updated addon to measure addon spam in the addon channels? I want to find out if an addon is making the whole raid lag. |
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| 20:51.12 | doom0r | like atm, you're having issues? |
| 20:51.37 | Hjalte | Whenever my 25-man raid enters boss combat, everyones fps drop to below 10. |
| 20:51.43 | Hjalte | And it's all the time. |
| 20:51.56 | Hjalte | It's killing us on Malygos |
| 20:52.03 | Pneumatus | Hjalte: at the start of phase 2? |
| 20:52.30 | Hjalte | Pneumatus: Start of P2 is bad, yes, but we have it all the fight. |
| 20:52.37 | Pneumatus | phase 1 was fine for our raid, but as soon as we hit phase 2 it lagged HARD, and is a game issue |
| 20:52.53 | Pneumatus | fubar_spamfu shows no increase in addon spam |
| 20:53.00 | Pneumatus | *addonspamfu |
| 20:53.13 | Pneumatus | its a game issue, and only happens on a few bosses/phases |
| 20:53.18 | Hjalte | We experienced it on every boss in Naxx as well. |
| 20:53.36 | Pneumatus | well, FuBar_AddonSpamFu works anyway |
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| 20:55.45 | Yssaril | any new version past alpha 3 for CC? |
| 20:56.28 | opant2 | CC? |
| 20:56.49 | opant2 | breaker? |
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| 20:57.36 | doom0r | ..... |
| 20:59.08 | opant2 | >.> |
| 21:01.06 | Repo | 10prat_signon: 03ethancentaurai 07master * 7d33378 / (3 files in 1 directory): [new, +6 commits] (2 truncated) |
| 21:01.07 | Repo | 7d33378: Fix another typo. |
| 21:01.08 | Repo | 596409d: Fix typo. |
| 21:01.11 | Repo | 348aa8a: Add .pkgmeta file. |
| 21:01.15 | Repo | 1ec704f: Fix line endings. |
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| 21:02.25 | Repo | 10mounted: 03yssaril 07master * v1.3.10-1-gb27a877 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] updated ruRU locale thanks to Sayrox |
| 21:02.38 | Repo | 10mounted: 03yssaril 04v1.3.11 * 0b90d79 /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.3.11 |
| 21:02.38 | Repo | 10breakables: 03Parnic * r10 Breakables.lua: |
| 21:02.40 | Yssaril | opant: CurseClient |
| 21:02.42 | Repo | - delay updates that are called while the player is in combat since secure buttons cannot be created/destroyed while in combat |
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| 21:12.19 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: bigwigs_naxx is yours right? |
| 21:12.32 | nevcairiel | no |
| 21:13.31 | NivFreak | er |
| 21:13.33 | NivFreak | Funkeh`? |
| 21:14.05 | chiper | I havent been paying attention. has littlewigs gotten any LK love yet? |
| 21:14.34 | NivFreak | It tells me to mail logs a lot |
| 21:15.09 | chiper | ah, alpha only, I see |
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| 21:28.49 | NivFreak | I think I'm going to dump bigwigs and go back to DBM |
| 21:29.00 | NivFreak | it's been a couple years |
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| 21:30.57 | Stanzilla | I heard DBM does pretty well atm |
| 21:31.11 | Gnarfoz | I heard it's still not better than BW ^^ |
| 21:31.11 | NivFreak | and bigwigs is a useless pile |
| 21:31.43 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it really doesn't work at all! |
| 21:31.58 | Gnarfoz | @project lifepercent |
| 21:31.59 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/lifepercent/. LifePercent. Game: WoW. Status: Out of date. Leader: Rabbit. Updated: 47 days ago |
| 21:31.59 | NivFreak | it looks like it hasn't been updated in a month? |
| 21:32.06 | Gnarfoz | your sight is bad then |
| 21:32.07 | NivFreak | @project bigwigs |
| 21:32.08 | Repo | NivFreak: No project found that matches 'bigwigs' |
| 21:32.21 | NivFreak | r4784 | funkydude | 2008-10-19 16:59:57 +0000 (Sun, 19 Oct 2008) | 1 line |
| 21:32.23 | Gnarfoz | @project big-wigs |
| 21:32.24 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/big-wigs/. BigWigs Bossmods. Game: WoW. Leader: funkydude. Authors: Rabbit, Ammo. Updated: 21 hours ago. Tickets: 5/10 |
| 21:32.31 | Gnarfoz | updated: 21 hours ago :p |
| 21:32.34 | NivFreak | only alphas? |
| 21:32.42 | Gnarfoz | also, as you probably know: update frequency means shit |
| 21:32.52 | NivFreak | ok, well I can tell you this |
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| 21:32.58 | Gnarfoz | it worked fine with the latest pre-LK release version |
| 21:32.59 | NivFreak | the version that is installed by the curse client |
| 21:33.00 | NivFreak | is worthless |
| 21:33.03 | NivFreak | :P |
| 21:33.05 | Gnarfoz | no, that one works fine. |
| 21:33.08 | NivFreak | timers are wrong |
| 21:33.11 | NivFreak | bars don't appear |
| 21:33.13 | NivFreak | marks don't get set |
| 21:33.20 | Gnarfoz | bars appear, marks get set, timers are off |
| 21:33.21 | NivFreak | I've run both 25 and 10 this week |
| 21:33.24 | Gnarfoz | maybe you suck :P |
| 21:33.26 | NivFreak | no |
| 21:33.31 | Gnarfoz | yes :P |
| 21:33.37 | sacarasc | MAYBE! |
| 21:33.38 | Gnarfoz | tell me why my version worked? :p |
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| 21:33.44 | NivFreak | well wait a second |
| 21:33.49 | NivFreak | this could be the fault of the curse client |
| 21:33.51 | NivFreak | I should be fair |
| 21:33.59 | NivFreak | let's see if it's failing to detect a newer version yet again |
| 21:34.10 | NivFreak | Kolie: btw, today I hate you |
| 21:34.13 | NivFreak | Kaelten: you too |
| 21:34.32 | Fisker- | puts all his faith in NivFreak |
| 21:34.32 | Fisker- | etc. |
| 21:34.48 | NivFreak | ok, so curse client thinks that r4784-release (installed) is current |
| 21:34.53 | NivFreak | let's see what I get if I force an update |
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| 21:35.18 | NivFreak | same thing |
| 21:35.29 | Repo | 10questitem: 03Pericles * r7 / (3 files in 1 directory): QuestItem: - |
| 21:35.29 | Repo | dry coded updated to test fixes for tooltip |
| 21:35.33 | NivFreak | I'd check wowace.com, but it doesn't seem to be responding |
| 21:35.38 | Gnarfoz | works fine for me |
| 21:35.39 | NivFreak | there it goes |
| 21:35.44 | Gnarfoz | I'm happily browsing around |
| 21:36.01 | NivFreak | so it looks like he just hasn't tagged a release/beta for a month? |
| 21:36.13 | Gnarfoz | quite possible, yes |
| 21:36.17 | Gnarfoz | ~seen vhaarr |
| 21:36.19 | purl | vhaarr <n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12d 9h 17m 27s ago, saying: '~wowalert'. |
| 21:36.44 | Stanzilla | try Funkeh` |
| 21:36.45 | NivFreak | if only the fucking curse client supported alphas |
| 21:36.54 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: ping again |
| 21:37.09 | Pneumatus | is there any way i can tell what addon is trying to use SecureHandler API in combat? |
| 21:37.37 | Pneumatus | bugsack trace only shows FrameXML |
| 21:38.11 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: wasn't trying vhaarr for bigwigs ;) |
| 21:38.22 | Stanzilla | k :P |
| 21:38.30 | Fisker- | ~seen Gnarfoz |
| 21:38.31 | purl | gnarfoz is currently on #wowhead (8d 20h 47m 13s) #norganna (8d 20h 47m 13s) #wowuidev (8d 20h 47m 13s) #wowace (8d 20h 47m 13s) #curseforge (8d 20h 47m 13s) #wowwiki (8d 20h 47m 13s). Has said a total of 389 messages. Is idling for 20s, last said: 'Stanzilla: wasn't trying vhaarr for bigwigs ;)'. |
| 21:38.31 | Pneumatus | i've got a sneaking suspicion it's Grid, but cant be sure |
| 21:38.39 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: diaf |
| 21:38.57 | NivFreak | Pneumatus: I would tend to agree with you, and I think you have to turn on taint checking? |
| 21:39.00 | Fisker- | ~seen Gnarfoz |
| 21:39.01 | purl | gnarfoz is currently on #wowhead (8d 20h 47m 43s) #norganna (8d 20h 47m 43s) #wowuidev (8d 20h 47m 43s) #wowace (8d 20h 47m 43s) #curseforge (8d 20h 47m 43s) #wowwiki (8d 20h 47m 43s). Has said a total of 390 messages. Is idling for 22s, last said: 'Fisker-: diaf'. |
| 21:39.07 | Gnarfoz | ~fisker |
| 21:39.07 | purl | Fisker steal gnarfoz's cookies |
| 21:39.11 | Gnarfoz | oh yeah. |
| 21:39.25 | Fisker- | psychological warfare |
| 21:39.31 | Pneumatus | i've got taintlog set to 1, but not seen anything |
| 21:39.31 | NivFreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.37 | NivFreak | then check the log file right? |
| 21:39.55 | Fisker- | in a moment you'll be shooting yourself in the head Gnarfoz |
| 21:40.22 | EthanCentaurai | ~epic fail Fisker- |
| 21:40.23 | purl | Fisker-, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Fisker-, you are that epic failure. |
| 21:40.48 | Taladris | Pneumatus: Do you use ZOMGBuffs? |
| 21:40.48 | Pneumatus | autobar looks like its tainting, but surely doesnt use SecureGroupPetHeader_OnUpdate |
| 21:40.54 | Pneumatus | Taladris: no |
| 21:41.41 | NivFreak | I use grid, autobar, and zomgbuffs |
| 21:41.45 | NivFreak | I bet they all taint too :) |
| 21:41.55 | NivFreak | Zeksie: zomgbuffs is yours right? |
| 21:42.15 | Pneumatus | grid isn't causing entries in taint.log |
| 21:42.19 | Taladris | I'm pretty sure ZOMG has been, sometimes when I mouseover the icon to rebuff in combat |
| 21:42.23 | Pneumatus | AutoBar is the only thing spamming that log |
| 21:42.28 | Taladris | NivFreak: Yeah, it's his. |
| 21:42.46 | NivFreak | zomgbuffs is a bit odd with shaman shields |
| 21:42.53 | NivFreak | water shield yourself, the earth shield yourself |
| 21:42.57 | NivFreak | and it really gets fucked up |
| 21:42.59 | pastamancer | Pneumatus: grid is causing that secure handler error when someone joins your party while you are in combat |
| 21:43.06 | Pneumatus | aha |
| 21:43.12 | chiper | yeah, its always gotten confused with shields |
| 21:43.25 | NivFreak | pastamancer: I've noticed that, can't it refuse to update until after you tick out? |
| 21:43.33 | NivFreak | just queue the change |
| 21:43.34 | chiper | I had to turn off auto-learn, because it kept fighting between watershield and lightning shield |
| 21:43.52 | pastamancer | NivFreak, Pneumatus: see http://tinyurl.com/6pkzw2 for why it happens |
| 21:44.36 | chiper | pastamancer: oh, so THATS why pitbull keeps eating itself |
| 21:44.36 | NivFreak | ah |
| 21:44.38 | NivFreak | I see |
| 21:44.43 | NivFreak | and of course, it's harmless |
| 21:44.45 | Pneumatus | yeh, i hadnt noticed it doing anything 'bad', or causing anything not to work |
| 21:44.45 | NivFreak | just an error |
| 21:44.58 | chiper | I did. all the time |
| 21:45.00 | pastamancer | so I don't think there's anything I can do about it |
| 21:45.12 | NivFreak | pre-create frames clearly (no) |
| 21:45.18 | NivFreak | can you hide frames in combat? |
| 21:45.20 | chiper | if I'm in combat while someone joins my party, pitbull hoses itself and I have to reloadui |
| 21:45.31 | NivFreak | chiper: turn off party frames and use grid |
| 21:45.32 | NivFreak | :) |
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| 21:45.34 | pastamancer | NivFreak: only through UnitWatch |
| 21:45.54 | chiper | I only use grid on my healers |
| 21:45.55 | NivFreak | pastamancer: I just mean, can you pre-create 5/25 frames, and then hide the rest |
| 21:46.12 | NivFreak | er, hide those not in use |
| 21:46.22 | Pneumatus | would that error also happen when you summoned a pet in combat, pastamancer? |
| 21:46.24 | pastamancer | the secure raid header is in charge of creating the frames |
| 21:46.27 | pastamancer | that would indeed |
| 21:46.38 | Pneumatus | so my shadowfiend is probably responsible |
| 21:46.40 | pastamancer | can you get me a traceback of it though? |
| 21:46.52 | Pneumatus | it only traces through FrameXML |
| 21:47.01 | pastamancer | that's fine |
| 21:47.10 | pastamancer | I'm at work right now so I can't do it myself |
| 21:47.17 | Fisker- | slaps pastamancer around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:47.41 | pastamancer | tells Fisker- noooo, but really means yes |
| 21:47.52 | Pneumatus | pastamancer: http://ace.pastey.net/103394 |
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| 21:50.08 | sacarasc | why so slappy, Fisker-? |
| 21:50.36 | EthanCentaurai | puts Fisker- back in his ignore list |
| 21:51.10 | NeoTron | so what's the word on the street - best hunter raiding spec is... BM or Survival (or, gasp, Marksman?) |
| 21:51.21 | Fisker- | sacarasc because people get so srs |
| 21:51.22 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 21:51.40 | sacarasc | NeoTron: mage |
| 21:51.53 | Pneumatus | DK, actually |
| 21:52.09 | sacarasc | that involves levelling too many times |
| 21:52.30 | NeoTron | I'm specifically asking about hunters... obviously |
| 21:52.54 | NeoTron | reason I ask is because we have a hunter that on a pure nuke fight can pull an impressive 1300ish DPS as marksman.. |
| 21:53.01 | Funkeh` | NivFreak, |
| 21:53.03 | Funkeh` | pong |
| 21:53.22 | sacarasc | 1300 is pretty low, no? |
| 21:53.35 | Pneumatus | well tanks are putting out about 2k |
| 21:53.37 | Pneumatus | so yes. |
| 21:53.42 | NeoTron | it's very bad |
| 21:54.01 | NeoTron | not amazingly geared, just curious if, as I suspect, marksman is not the best spec for DPs |
| 21:54.03 | Funkeh` | NivFreak, whats up |
| 21:54.10 | asmodai | jesus, lag fest on my realm |
| 21:54.14 | NeoTron | he's not a raider per se, just a filler because a few people were out last week |
| 21:54.55 | chiper | 1300 says to me he hasnt upgraded his gear at all |
| 21:55.03 | pastamancer | Pneumatus: ah, thanks... it is being caused by the secure header creating a new frame |
| 21:56.01 | Pneumatus | yeh, so summoning a pet like a shadowfiend in combat is creating a new frame and causing the error to throw i guess |
| 21:56.08 | pastamancer | yup |
| 21:56.12 | Arrowmaster | gah 2 more points to knuckle sandwich achievement on my warlock |
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| 21:56.59 | sacarasc | go go, Arrowmaster! punch them people! |
| 21:57.04 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: tag beta bigwigs |
| 21:57.05 | NivFreak | :) |
| 21:57.14 | NeoTron | chiper: he has a few old raiding epics but definitely upgrades too |
| 21:57.18 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: the last beta/release tagged version is serously fucked for naxx |
| 21:57.19 | Funkeh` | did something change? |
| 21:57.22 | Arrowmaster | sacarasc: gargoly |
| 21:57.24 | Pneumatus | holy priest here with the master of arms + kuckle sandwich achievements :P |
| 21:57.30 | Funkeh` | NivFreak, not sure it's changed much |
| 21:57.34 | NivFreak | well |
| 21:57.38 | NivFreak | ok, for specifics |
| 21:57.40 | Funkeh` | need more people to give logs |
| 21:57.41 | Arrowmaster | Pneumatus: go afk in icecrown? |
| 21:57.44 | NivFreak | patchwerk's enrage is 6 mins, not 7 |
| 21:57.52 | NivFreak | where do you want logs mail to |
| 21:57.54 | NivFreak | mailed |
| 21:58.13 | NeoTron | Funkeh`: just combat logS? |
| 21:58.23 | Funkeh` | they work, but preferably transcript logs |
| 21:58.27 | Pneumatus | Arrowmaster: nope levelled on shoveltusks |
| 21:58.30 | NivFreak | also, on grobulus, the spell ID for inject is correct, but the bigwigs doesn't raidicon them |
| 21:58.31 | Funkeh` | it's neater and records yells etc |
| 21:58.32 | NeoTron | some addon to run? |
| 21:58.39 | Arrowmaster | Pneumatus: huh? |
| 21:58.39 | Funkeh` | transcriptor |
| 21:58.47 | NeoTron | ok I'll install it for this week's run |
| 21:58.52 | Funkeh` | sweet |
| 21:58.57 | Pneumatus | ( Arrowmaster ) Pneumatus: go afk in icecrown? |
| 21:59.00 | Funkeh` | NivFreak, sec lemme boot it up |
| 21:59.03 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: I'll try to remember to transcribe my next run, but I wish it knew to turn itself on :) |
| 21:59.16 | NivFreak | because I often forget |
| 21:59.21 | Arrowmaster | why would you do it on shoveltusks when you can go afk in icecrown |
| 21:59.32 | pastamancer | Arrowmaster: tell me more |
| 21:59.37 | Pneumatus | what can you afk on in icecrow? :o |
| 21:59.38 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: where |
| 21:59.39 | Arrowmaster | omg 399 |
| 21:59.50 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=31012#comments |
| 22:00.08 | pastamancer | fancy |
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| 22:00.16 | Arrowmaster | indead |
| 22:00.19 | NivFreak | wow |
| 22:00.24 | NivFreak | I was going to take my toons in to DM |
| 22:00.30 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r4794 Naxxramas/Patchwerk.lua: BigWigs: Naxxramas/Patchwerk: enrage = 6min |
| 22:00.36 | chiper | interesting, I'll have to try that |
| 22:00.38 | NivFreak | time to get a lock to summon my paladin out there |
| 22:00.49 | Arrowmaster | its up in the mountains |
| 22:01.15 | Arrowmaster | but do it quickly before blizz changes it next patch or something |
| 22:01.22 | NivFreak | sure |
| 22:01.45 | Arrowmaster | they likely will or something since they specificly changed the servents |
| 22:01.49 | NivFreak | yea |
| 22:01.50 | Zenom | there used to be (maybe still is) an addon that was like a timer started with a C |
| 22:01.52 | NivFreak | the DM mobs still work |
| 22:01.58 | Arrowmaster | DM mobs? |
| 22:01.59 | Codayus_ | zomg, 'splits! |
| 22:02.00 | Zenom | like cronograph or something like that maybe |
| 22:02.02 | NivFreak | the spirits by the king |
| 22:02.03 | Codayus_ | er..sploits |
| 22:02.23 | Arrowmaster | i have no clue |
| 22:02.25 | AckisWork | cool Canada has a new gov't today |
| 22:02.42 | Pneumatus | Chronometer, and its dead |
| 22:02.52 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r4795 Naxxramas/Grobbulus.lua: BigWigs: Naxxramas/Grobbulus: fix inject icon marking |
| 22:02.57 | Funkeh` | NivFreak, ok, anything else? |
| 22:03.10 | chiper | btw, did anyone notice a significant performance boost on the mac version with 3.0.2? |
| 22:03.22 | chiper | I'm getting framerates much better then they used to be |
| 22:03.23 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=11446 |
| 22:03.36 | Zenom | Pneumatus: ahh bummer |
| 22:03.38 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: the grobb raid icon marking for inject, bars for grand widow |
| 22:03.39 | NivFreak | ummm |
| 22:03.47 | Zenom | is there another "timer" addon for tracking like self buffs? |
| 22:03.52 | NivFreak | there really were a large number of things :P |
| 22:03.53 | Funkeh` | grand widow? |
| 22:03.56 | Zenom | like battleshout for instance |
| 22:03.58 | Funkeh` | might be a yell change |
| 22:04.02 | EthanCentaurai | Faerline |
| 22:04.20 | Funkeh` | the MC one irght |
| 22:04.28 | NivFreak | well, in 10man you just kill the adds |
| 22:04.30 | NivFreak | but yea that fight |
| 22:04.48 | NivFreak | the ones that have caught two raids off guard, were patchwerk and grobb |
| 22:04.50 | Fisker- | you have to MC in 25-man? |
| 22:04.54 | NivFreak | Fisker-: yes |
| 22:04.57 | Fisker- | fail |
| 22:05.01 | NivFreak | same with instructor raz |
| 22:05.01 | Funkeh` | the whole thing really depends on the initial yell |
| 22:05.11 | Funkeh` | so I will need the new yell |
| 22:05.17 | Funkeh` | (hence the transcriptor log) |
| 22:05.21 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: I think the timers are working, just not the bars? |
| 22:05.28 | Funkeh` | Oo |
| 22:05.51 | chiper | sweet, I'm now leveling my mace skill |
| 22:05.55 | NivFreak | unfortunatly, naxx is so freaking easy that I didn't get multiple attempts to debuff |
| 22:06.04 | NivFreak | most everything was one shot with a bunch of fresh raiders |
| 22:06.16 | Funkeh` | well |
| 22:06.17 | NivFreak | minus an enrage on patchwerk |
| 22:06.18 | Funkeh` | ill tag that |
| 22:06.21 | Funkeh` | try get me some logs |
| 22:06.28 | NivFreak | yea, I'll have logs for you next week |
| 22:06.35 | Funkeh` | ty |
| 22:06.39 | NivFreak | I mean, I should have combat logs |
| 22:06.44 | NivFreak | but not transcriptor logs |
| 22:06.54 | nevcairiel | maexxna bars disappear after first web spray |
| 22:06.57 | nevcairiel | dont ask me why =P |
| 22:06.59 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: ah yes, that too |
| 22:07.06 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, spell id change probably |
| 22:07.16 | NivFreak | I'm really not sure what's wrong with grobbs |
| 22:07.17 | Fisker- | i'm sick :( |
| 22:07.20 | nevcairiel | mm maexxna log |
| 22:07.22 | nevcairiel | looks |
| 22:07.23 | NivFreak | I verified you're tracking the right spell ID |
| 22:07.26 | Funkeh` | NivFreak, I fixed it |
| 22:07.28 | NivFreak | ah,k |
| 22:07.39 | NivFreak | can you tag stuff as beta? |
| 22:07.40 | NivFreak | :P |
| 22:07.40 | Primer | speaking of spell ID... |
| 22:07.51 | Funkeh` | NivFreak, combatlogs don't catchyells, so I need either a CLog and a chat log or a transcriptor log |
| 22:08.06 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: chatlogging currently crashes the mac client, not sure why |
| 22:08.13 | Primer | what would be the easiest way to obtain the spell IDs of everything here: http://www.wowhead.com/?items=15.5 |
| 22:08.14 | NivFreak | so I'll try and transcribe |
| 22:08.15 | Funkeh` | ~~ |
| 22:08.16 | purl | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 22:08.29 | Primer | err, I mean, here: http://www.wowhead.com/?items=15.-7 |
| 22:08.33 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: I found this out via prat/chatter logging |
| 22:09.02 | NivFreak | enable them -> Crash after a few seconds |
| 22:09.03 | NivFreak | heh |
| 22:09.10 | Funkeh` | :/ |
| 22:09.21 | Antiarc | Funkeh`: 10 man Gluth enrage timer is 3 minutes fast |
| 22:09.32 | Funkeh` | as in cut 3min off it? |
| 22:09.38 | Antiarc | Put 3 min on it |
| 22:09.46 | Antiarc | I think you have a 5 min timer, it's 8 on 10 man |
| 22:09.50 | Antiarc | or whatever it is + 3 |
| 22:10.08 | Funkeh` | it's 360 sec |
| 22:10.10 | Funkeh` | 6min |
| 22:10.13 | Funkeh` | so 9min? |
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| 22:10.21 | Antiarc | Hm. I thought it was 8 when I checked |
| 22:10.24 | Antiarc | It's either 8 or 9 |
| 22:10.27 | Antiarc | Lemme ask EJ |
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| 22:10.50 | Arrowmaster | been 11 minutes now and still at 399.... |
| 22:10.59 | chiper | can you AFK logout while in combat? |
| 22:11.08 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 22:11.19 | chiper | k, so I need to keep hitting jump every 10 minutes or so then |
| 22:11.37 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster, are you refering to our convo |
| 22:11.44 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 22:11.49 | Funkeh` | k |
| 22:11.49 | Antiarc | Funkeh`: Also, a "blue screen flash when your charge changes on thaddius" would be nice |
| 22:12.00 | Arrowmaster | chiper: afaik no |
| 22:12.09 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: pre-TBC, it took me > 1 hour to do the last weapon skill point |
| 22:12.15 | NivFreak | on the portal mobs |
| 22:12.32 | NivFreak | Antiarc: agree on flash/shake |
| 22:12.34 | Arrowmaster | NivFreak: yeah i know, i had max everything but staffs pre TBC on my warlock |
| 22:12.37 | chiper | once I hit 400 with maces I'll switch to unarmed and go to lunch. will see if I'm still in the game when I get back |
| 22:12.39 | Antiarc | Funkeh`: EJ says 8 min |
| 22:12.53 | Fisker- | depends on your int |
| 22:12.54 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 22:13.00 | NivFreak | <-- warrior |
| 22:13.13 | NivFreak | chiper: you will never log out in combat |
| 22:13.15 | Arrowmaster | Fisker-: not since alpha apparently |
| 22:13.19 | chiper | NivFreak: ok, cool |
| 22:13.24 | Fisker- | definitely worked here |
| 22:13.29 | chiper | then perhaps I'll go to lunch |
| 22:13.31 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: babble-boss <-- looks like there's some non-bosses in there (ie: instance mobs), should those be moved out to a diff babble, or should babble-boss be babble-instancemobs basically? |
| 22:13.37 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r4796 Naxxramas/Gluth.lua: BigWigs: Naxxramas/Gluth: 8min enrage |
| 22:13.44 | AckisWork | ie: can I add instance mobs to babble-boss |
| 22:14.06 | Arrowmaster | AckisWork: anything related to boss encounters can go in it |
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| 22:14.22 | Arrowmaster | well mobs related to boss encounters |
| 22:14.44 | AckisWork | k |
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| 22:14.55 | Arrowmaster | what are you wanting? |
| 22:15.01 | Arrowmaster | stuff for ARL? |
| 22:15.05 | NivFreak | NeoTron: did you see my message? |
| 22:15.22 | AckisWork | in the end-run yes, it's just babbleboss wasn't bosses only so I was curious |
| 22:15.36 | NeoTron | NivFreak: don't think I did. replay :P |
| 22:15.52 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: I'll try to transcribe naxx25 tomorrow as well and write down glithces as i see them (or fix them myself) |
| 22:16.06 | nevcairiel | er not tomorrow |
| 22:16.09 | nevcairiel | wednesday <.< |
| 22:16.24 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, thanks |
| 22:16.27 | NivFreak | I'll do the same for 10man on wednesday, not sure next time we're doing 25s |
| 22:16.36 | NivFreak | we cleared this week with a joint |
| 22:16.49 | NivFreak | only 4 guilds on my server have enough 80s to raid, so sad |
| 22:16.58 | NivFreak | the rest of us are doing joints in the mean time |
| 22:16.58 | Antiarc | heh |
| 22:17.08 | nevcairiel | really? thats indeed sad |
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| 22:17.27 | NivFreak | not even all our guilds that cleared sunwell have 25s up |
| 22:17.28 | NivFreak | :P |
| 22:17.35 | Funkeh` | wrong button |
| 22:17.37 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r4797 Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: BigWigs: Naxxramas/Thaddius: shake/sound on polarity change |
| 22:17.53 | Antiarc | Yay, thanks Funkeh` |
| 22:18.07 | Funkeh` | np bud |
| 22:18.28 | nevcairiel | silly rogues, need shake to notice something important |
| 22:18.28 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 22:18.34 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: did you find the web spray spell ID? |
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| 22:18.49 | nevcairiel | apparently it was already added a day ago or so |
| 22:18.53 | Funkeh` | I think so |
| 22:18.55 | Funkeh` | well |
| 22:18.57 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: I don't, my raidmates do :P |
| 22:18.58 | Funkeh` | looking at wowhead |
| 22:19.01 | Funkeh` | there is 2 |
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| 22:19.21 | nevcairiel | yeah my last maexxna was before the heroic-spell-id pass you did |
| 22:19.28 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: 29484 is the 10 man one at least |
| 22:19.30 | nevcairiel | so who knows! |
| 22:19.37 | Funkeh` | but I have both covered |
| 22:19.54 | nevcairiel | validated the 25 one from combatlogs as well, so should be fine again |
| 22:20.05 | NeoTron | Loken in HoL was kind of sad to do with some people. I am the tank and we all run the way I'm facing. I.e I have to run all the way through him while the others just need to turn a 180 |
| 22:20.11 | NeoTron | and I live while others do not.. |
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| 22:20.46 | nevcairiel | you need new people |
| 22:20.59 | NivFreak | NeoTron: uh, magicdkp |
| 22:21.04 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, did cocoon announcing work |
| 22:21.07 | NivFreak | your lib-babble-zone must be out of date |
| 22:21.18 | NivFreak | it doesn't know about the raid zone in witergrasp |
| 22:21.20 | NivFreak | vault of ... |
| 22:21.23 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: yeah |
| 22:21.55 | nevcairiel | only issue on maexxna was the disappearing bars after first spray |
| 22:22.02 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 22:22.04 | nevcairiel | but tbh, i dont remember if it worked on 10man |
| 22:22.10 | NivFreak | heroic naxx spell id is 54125 it seems |
| 22:22.11 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, odd unless wowhead is outdated |
| 22:22.25 | Funkeh` | or |
| 22:22.26 | Funkeh` | maybe |
| 22:22.29 | Funkeh` | they changed the event |
| 22:22.38 | Funkeh` | might not be SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS |
| 22:22.42 | nevcairiel | well as i said, it was some time since i did maexxna, before you added the heroic spell ids |
| 22:22.47 | nevcairiel | i can check that |
| 22:22.49 | NivFreak | SPELL_AURA_APPLIES |
| 22:22.50 | NivFreak | er |
| 22:22.51 | NivFreak | SPELL_AURA_APPLIED |
| 22:22.58 | Primer | ahh! More spell ids! |
| 22:23.17 | nevcairiel | 11/23 20:25:27.552 SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS,0xF130003E5000008C,"Maexxna",0xa48,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,54125,"Web Spray",0x8 |
| 22:23.21 | NivFreak | oh wait |
| 22:23.22 | NivFreak | yea |
| 22:23.22 | nevcairiel | 25 ^ |
| 22:23.23 | Bruners | is there a replacement for instancemaps that is updateD? |
| 22:23.27 | NivFreak | he's got it |
| 22:23.32 | Industrial | I got a Calamity's Grasp on Kel'Thuzad! |
| 22:23.36 | Industrial | wewewewewt |
| 22:24.02 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, hmm Oo |
| 22:24.03 | NivFreak | 40 second gap |
| 22:24.21 | NivFreak | so this is odd |
| 22:24.24 | NivFreak | looking at my log |
| 22:24.30 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: i think maexxna was before you added the heroic spell ids, so thats pretty obvious why it didnt work :p |
| 22:24.32 | NivFreak | they are mostly 40 seconds apart |
| 22:24.33 | NivFreak | but one is 50 |
| 22:24.42 | NivFreak | does the aoe wrap offset the timer |
| 22:24.43 | NivFreak | ? |
| 22:24.44 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, ooh |
| 22:24.50 | Funkeh` | maybe someone else added them |
| 22:24.57 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: tag beta! |
| 22:25.15 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, seems a chinese dude added it |
| 22:25.17 | Funkeh` | my bad |
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| 22:25.40 | nevcairiel | without breaking it? |
| 22:25.42 | nevcairiel | thats a new one |
| 22:25.49 | AckisWork | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRh7qHU6LqM&NR=1 |
| 22:25.49 | Primer | say I want to split up my code into different files. One for the main object's methods, and another for, say...the config array. Is all code that's included in the toc file in the same namespace? So local foo in one file is visible to code in the other? |
| 22:25.53 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r4798-release * r4798 : Tagging as r4798-release |
| 22:26.37 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 22:27.00 | Primer | lua is so odd |
| 22:27.14 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 22:27.28 | Primer | So I either make my variable global or an object property? |
| 22:27.38 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
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| 22:28.54 | Primer | I don't like making things global. At first I decided to make everything in my addon an object method/property, but it seems this is not the norm |
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| 22:29.30 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: thanks |
| 22:29.48 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: are you raiding yet? |
| 22:30.02 | Funkeh` | nop |
| 22:30.07 | Jygga | gaaah i want to slap and spank those eqdkp authors -.- |
| 22:30.07 | Funkeh` | I'm still 70 |
| 22:30.16 | NivFreak | fired! |
| 22:30.25 | Saroz | idd |
| 22:30.28 | Saroz | eqdkp makes me cry |
| 22:30.45 | Yssaril | chiper: where are you leveling your weapon skills? |
| 22:30.47 | gix | that's why i wrote my own. too bad it uses pgsql and runs nowhere else :( |
| 22:30.57 | Funkeh` | NivFreak, lost my interest when I lost my girl |
| 22:31.01 | Saroz | lol |
| 22:31.04 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: =/ |
| 22:31.06 | Jygga | its like a big pile of spaghetti code |
| 22:31.08 | Stanzilla | Funkeh` :( |
| 22:31.17 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: unrelated to wow, or no? |
| 22:31.17 | Saroz | Funkeh`, word |
| 22:31.17 | chiper | Yssaril: in icecrown |
| 22:31.29 | neenee | I met mine in there, so I'd likely feel the same way. |
| 22:31.46 | Saroz | been there idd |
| 22:31.49 | Yssaril | chiper: there are mobs that wont attack back but you can attack them all you want? |
| 22:31.50 | Saroz | Jygga yep |
| 22:32.02 | chiper | yes, it was linked a few pages back |
| 22:32.04 | neenee | gnite now. |
| 22:32.24 | chiper | 399 unarmed. go go go |
| 22:33.15 | chiper | Yssaril: http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=31012#comments |
| 22:33.57 | gix | maybe i should release mine as an eqdkp-competitor :p though i'd have to rip out the adv. ladder-zerosum-system and include stuff for stupid bidding systems which everyone these days seems to use. |
| 22:34.14 | Saroz | thx chiper |
| 22:34.14 | Yssaril | chiper: sweeet thanks |
| 22:34.26 | chiper | dont thank me, arrowmaster pointed it out |
| 22:34.43 | Arrowmaster | 400 unarmed! |
| 22:34.45 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: thanks :) |
| 22:34.48 | chiper | grats! |
| 22:34.51 | Arrowmaster | took 30 minutes from 399 |
| 22:35.02 | gix | nice. that's even a tick easier than those immune-mobs in shadowmoon valley |
| 22:35.12 | NeoTron | gix: you have no idea how much I enjoy... not doing DKP or tracking |
| 22:35.49 | NivFreak | heh |
| 22:35.52 | Arrowmaster | went back to dalaran to get a different dagger and a staff from my bank for the 4 weaponskills one |
| 22:35.52 | gix | NeoTron: i did it alone for 3 years. :( such a pita in the beginning without own tools. |
| 22:36.03 | Funkeh` | Related to wow where I met her, but I'm still paying to code |
| 22:36.07 | Arrowmaster | apparently i only have 1 sword now too |
| 22:36.10 | NivFreak | I'm about to start doing DKP for the first time |
| 22:36.12 | NivFreak | and it worries me |
| 22:36.22 | NivFreak | I need good tools |
| 22:36.28 | Funkeh` | thankfully I dont need an 80 to access the API |
| 22:36.35 | NivFreak | and NeoTron doesn't love his magicdkp anymore I think ;) |
| 22:36.37 | chiper | damn, I dont have any other weapons on my toon. |
| 22:36.39 | Funkeh` | but I might level it eventually |
| 22:36.49 | Saroz | I lost my GF and it made me quit the game for 2 months |
| 22:36.53 | NeoTron | NivFreak: it's working |
| 22:37.01 | Primer | Saroz: did you lose her BECAUSE of wow? |
| 22:37.01 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: your priest? :) |
| 22:37.06 | NeoTron | NivFreak: but I should repopulate it for naxx etc. |
| 22:37.09 | chiper | Saroz: usually it's the other way around |
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| 22:37.21 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, I retired that in february lol |
| 22:37.22 | NeoTron | should auto-detect - now is a good time to test it :P |
| 22:37.33 | NivFreak | NeoTron: even BT/Hyjal bosses/trash didn't always split correctly :P |
| 22:37.34 | gix | NivFreak: i wrote an addon-pair lewt/lily to track attendance and distribute loot, with yaml-export. and i could put it right into the database and it handled our complex calculations automatically. but it took some doing getting that up and running |
| 22:37.39 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: get him back! |
| 22:37.41 | Stanzilla | priest > * |
| 22:37.42 | Saroz | Primer, you could say that, she decided she enjoyed a 7 year younger guy from wow instead of me, cest la vie |
| 22:37.45 | Funkeh` | my belf rogue |
| 22:37.47 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 22:37.51 | Funkeh` | well |
| 22:37.53 | Funkeh` | maybe |
| 22:38.06 | Funkeh` | rogue dont look great anymore |
| 22:38.18 | NeoTron | NivFreak: "split"? wut? |
| 22:38.20 | Saroz | oh well, AFK training unarmed :p |
| 22:38.28 | NivFreak | NeoTron: so when you record where loot drops |
| 22:38.38 | NivFreak | I'd have trash drops attached to bosses and vice versa |
| 22:38.41 | NeoTron | yeah. it does the best it can |
| 22:38.42 | NivFreak | and sometimes a couple of bosses merged |
| 22:38.54 | NeoTron | bosses should never merge unless you kill them within 5 minutes |
| 22:39.10 | NeoTron | the loot event doesn't tell you where the item was looted from |
| 22:39.15 | NivFreak | I know |
| 22:39.28 | NeoTron | and... does it really matter as long as all bosses are recorded correctly? |
| 22:39.42 | NivFreak | but I assume that a combat message from a boss, or a death message (oh so reliable now, haha) would be decent ways to split? |
| 22:39.58 | NeoTron | it does use death events |
| 22:40.01 | NeoTron | adn mouse over |
| 22:40.03 | NeoTron | to detect new bosses |
| 22:40.04 | NivFreak | death missed illidan |
| 22:40.05 | NivFreak | i hear |
| 22:40.14 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, the probem is I dont know anyone on my priests server |
| 22:40.23 | NeoTron | so mousing over a boss sets the "current" boss to that |
| 22:40.28 | NeoTron | for x minutes |
| 22:40.38 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: well that would be boring then |
| 22:40.41 | NivFreak | NeoTron: and do you have to do special handling for things with multiple bosses and/or chests? |
| 22:40.50 | Funkeh` | I migt level my warr |
| 22:40.52 | NeoTron | to get boss loot incorrectly assigned you need to kill boss 1, kill bos 2, then go back to mouse over boss 1 and then back to boss2 to giev out the loot |
| 22:40.53 | Funkeh` | lvl 63 |
| 22:41.02 | Saroz | well you could record the contents of the loot window for each boss as it opens |
| 22:41.07 | Saroz | so you know where the item comes from |
| 22:41.10 | NivFreak | NeoTron: it's possible it took 5 mins before we distributed loot |
| 22:41.13 | NeoTron | multiple bosses yes, chests no since there were none I cared about in BC |
| 22:41.26 | NivFreak | NeoTron: sure, but now you have four horsemen |
| 22:41.27 | NeoTron | NivFreak: presumably you mouse over the boss in those 5 minutes |
| 22:41.31 | NivFreak | and kel'thuzad right? |
| 22:41.55 | Saroz | It's still CHAT_MSG_LOOT right? they should add the name of the mob looted to that :S |
| 22:41.55 | Stanzilla | what do pally tanks enchant on their weapons? |
| 22:41.57 | NeoTron | Saroz: that could be used as an additional safeguard yes |
| 22:42.05 | Arrowmaster | fuck name |
| 22:42.06 | Arrowmaster | guid |
| 22:42.07 | NeoTron | Saroz: and they should make a real event for it |
| 22:42.08 | Saroz | Stanzilla, str |
| 22:42.13 | Saroz | NeoTron, idd |
| 22:42.19 | Saroz | Stanzilla, or AP |
| 22:42.22 | NeoTron | name, guid of recipient and source |
| 22:42.29 | Stanzilla | that's what I thought |
| 22:42.36 | Stanzilla | now what's better, STR or AP |
| 22:42.39 | NeoTron | str |
| 22:42.39 | Saroz | there is no new STR, so AP |
| 22:42.49 | NeoTron | just in general that is |
| 22:42.52 | NivFreak | yea, I found that strange |
| 22:42.54 | Saroz | idd |
| 22:42.58 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 22:43.02 | gix | what does magicdkp do exactly? |
| 22:43.03 | Stanzilla | ap enchant is 65 ap |
| 22:43.13 | Repo | 10broker_sysmon: 03Nevcairiel * r46 Broker_SysMon.lua: Broker_SysMon: add type argument to the LDB calls |
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| 22:43.25 | NivFreak | NeoTron: so did you re-embed a newer lib-babble-zone? :P |
| 22:43.34 | NeoTron | yes |
| 22:43.37 | NivFreak | nice |
| 22:43.52 | NeoTron | rather, I added a fallback for netherweave cloth |
| 22:44.08 | NivFreak | wtb no-externals |
| 22:44.12 | Repo | 10loggerhead: 03Nevcairiel * r83 LoggerHead.lua: Add type argument to the LDB register call |
| 22:44.13 | NeoTron | since a friend of mine got an export bug because he didn't have netherweave in his cache (added frostweave and I think runic healing potion) |
| 22:44.29 | NivFreak | NeoTron: eh? |
| 22:44.30 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 22:44.30 | NeoTron | NivFreak: nothing stops you from installing babble manually.. :P It will after all be used |
| 22:44.41 | NeoTron | CTRT requires each "event" to have items to be registerd |
| 22:44.48 | NivFreak | ah |
| 22:44.55 | NeoTron | because it uses the items to find events, rather than finding the items based on the event |
| 22:44.59 | NeoTron | it's brilliantly programmed |
| 22:45.07 | NeoTron | like a polished turd without the polish |
| 22:45.12 | NivFreak | that would explain why it doesn't work at all for me anymore |
| 22:45.22 | NivFreak | hearthstone is the only thing you could rely on in my bags |
| 22:45.37 | Saroz | NRT ftw |
| 22:45.52 | Saroz | CTRT is a prime example of shit code hitting a mass public |
| 22:46.00 | NivFreak | agreed |
| 22:46.08 | NivFreak | and it was taken over, renamed RaidTracker, and broken further |
| 22:46.12 | Saroz | no good code ever came out of that shit camp |
| 22:46.37 | NivFreak | CTRT was the only bit I used in TBC |
| 22:46.46 | gix | i always felt these "automatic" trackers to do more harm than good. |
| 22:46.48 | NeoTron | NivFreak: not "in your bag", in your cache |
| 22:46.51 | Saroz | although they did lead addon development for a long time, the code behind it was just awefull |
| 22:46.56 | NeoTron | but hearthstone is a good idea |
| 22:46.57 | NivFreak | NeoTron: sure |
| 22:47.08 | NeoTron | Saroz: I'm talking about the ctrt importer to eqdkp |
| 22:47.12 | NivFreak | hearthstone is much more likely to be there |
| 22:47.14 | NeoTron | Saroz: not ctrt per se |
| 22:47.23 | Saroz | ctrt is dirt |
| 22:47.26 | NivFreak | gix: why? |
| 22:47.28 | Saroz | like ctra was |
| 22:47.33 | Tuller | la la la |
| 22:47.50 | NeoTron | Saroz: all I do in MDKP is to export in a format CTRT importer for eqdkp can handle |
| 22:47.55 | NivFreak | I mainly used these addons just to see who was present when a boss died, and what the boss(/trash) dropped |
| 22:48.00 | Saroz | NeoTron, obviously |
| 22:48.03 | Saroz | NeoTron, like NRT |
| 22:48.04 | NeoTron | and fyi the CTRT importer (third party wonder) is a lot worse than CT_RT addon is |
| 22:48.14 | NivFreak | NeoTron: that fucking thing never works right |
| 22:48.23 | NivFreak | it never splits events properly |
| 22:48.33 | NeoTron | it does but it's tricky business to get it right |
| 22:48.52 | NivFreak | it's just stupid that there isn't an included set of filters that do the right thing |
| 22:49.00 | gix | NivFreak: i never saw the point ti implement something that fragile. probably because my style was different. when the boss died, or whenever i feld like, i did a snapshot, distributed loot, dumped the raid + loot and copy&pasted it into the pg-database and all points would be updated. no need for fancy-pancy tracking or splitting or whatever. |
| 22:49.00 | Saroz | it's just dumb |
| 22:49.01 | NivFreak | you have to go track down a set off forums |
| 22:49.03 | NeoTron | the export format has all the data needed (now it's bad by itself with a lot of redundant data) but the importer doesn't use most of it |
| 22:49.05 | NivFreak | and they don't work right either |
| 22:49.09 | Saroz | and even after you try to configure it. it's still dumb |
| 22:49.36 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, what the hell |
| 22:49.41 | Funkeh` | FR advert on DE? |
| 22:49.46 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 22:49.47 | Stanzilla | weirdos |
| 22:49.50 | NivFreak | gix: having the ability to browse/link in game is very nice |
| 22:49.51 | Funkeh` | quite |
| 22:50.03 | NivFreak | and from an end-user perspective, it's zero overhead if done right |
| 22:50.04 | NeoTron | NivFreak: I know that a friend still uses MDKP just fine... but I don't use it so changes of major improvements are unfortunately pretty low |
| 22:50.13 | gix | NivFreak: browse/link what? |
| 22:50.23 | NivFreak | drops from kills |
| 22:50.24 | NivFreak | over time |
| 22:50.29 | NivFreak | I can go back to march of last year |
| 22:50.30 | NeoTron | I am considering using it for tracking purposes (to see who got what when) but I don't really need it |
| 22:50.30 | Tuller | so one random, but brilliant deal I came up with was: |
| 22:50.36 | NivFreak | and tell you what dropped from each raid, and link it |
| 22:50.40 | NeoTron | so it's a bit overkill. it's like tracking loot from karazhan |
| 22:50.43 | Tuller | blizzard should implement a guild point system, sortof like raid tokens |
| 22:50.44 | gix | NivFreak: i can do that too, and don't need a crippled ingame ui for that |
| 22:51.06 | NivFreak | gix: copy/paste in and out of wow is clunky |
| 22:51.17 | gix | NivFreak: and the potential dataloss always bugged me |
| 22:51.31 | NivFreak | I'm not saying it should be your reliable source |
| 22:51.32 | gix | and duplicating complicated ingame calculations is a no-go |
| 22:51.40 | NivFreak | I was exporting and importing in to eqdkp (fucking hate that shit() |
| 22:52.01 | NivFreak | but yes |
| 22:52.09 | NivFreak | a nice web based dkp management system is the way to go |
| 22:52.09 | gix | this might work for crap bidding systems or your average simple zero-sum. |
| 22:52.16 | NeoTron | NivFreak: I might add a no-dkp flag to magicdkp that just does tracking, quietly |
| 22:52.27 | NeoTron | without using any dkp costs |
| 22:52.28 | NivFreak | gix: so share your loot system with me, I'd like to understand |
| 22:52.38 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I'm moving to a DKP system sadly |
| 22:52.49 | NivFreak | the core wants it |
| 22:52.57 | gix | NivFreak: you mean how points were calculated? |
| 22:53.02 | NivFreak | gix: the entire thing |
| 22:53.20 | NivFreak | points in/out, inflation control, resets, etc |
| 22:53.27 | NeoTron | NivFreak: if you have specific issues let me know ofc. I do want it to work. Looking at loot boxes to get an override from loot source is one todo that should help a lot |
| 22:53.27 | NivFreak | I'm very interested in loot systems atm |
| 22:53.32 | NivFreak | I have about 2 weeks to get one nailed down |
| 22:54.05 | NeoTron | nivfreak: feel free to check this out: http://www.adrguild.com/dkp/viewnews.php |
| 22:54.18 | NeoTron | the "standby" and "raid" and "attendance" points are optional |
| 22:54.18 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r224 / (2 files in 1 directory): BadBoy: v2.1.1.0 |
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| 22:54.42 | NeoTron | we used them as a protection against ppl that were ons tandby a lot but really never raider (translation: protection from bads used at emergencies only) |
| 22:54.52 | NivFreak | yea |
| 22:54.53 | NeoTron | in the end we didn't need that stuff |
| 22:55.02 | NeoTron | because we just denied raid spots for bads |
| 22:55.18 | NivFreak | My constraints that I'd like to keep, are open bidding, with min bids |
| 22:55.25 | gix | NivFreak: basically it's zero-sum, with slot-based upgrades and usually fixed prices. and when you update a slot say from 100 to 150 points, instead of paying only 50 points for the 2nd item you pay 150 and get the past 100 refunded, thus shifting raids/loots that cound towards the current ladder more and more towards the present. |
| 22:55.31 | NivFreak | and I was thinking min increments to keep bidding short |
| 22:55.39 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v2.1.1.0 * r225 : Tagging as v2.1.1.0 |
| 22:55.39 | NivFreak | and zero sum of course |
| 22:56.00 | NivFreak | gix: that sounds overly complex |
| 22:56.12 | Arrowmaster | zero sum is just flawed |
| 22:56.21 | gix | bidding even more |
| 22:56.25 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: why? |
| 22:56.32 | gix | NivFreak: sounds more complex than it is |
| 22:56.38 | Arrowmaster | because ive broken numerous zero sum systems |
| 22:56.43 | gix | NivFreak: it evolved over 3 years. |
| 22:56.46 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: I'm asking for specifics, for real |
| 22:56.49 | NivFreak | this is new to me |
| 22:56.54 | NivFreak | I've never worked with a DKP system |
| 22:57.13 | NivFreak | gix: I'm concerned about loot rot with a fixed price system |
| 22:57.15 | Arrowmaster | every zero sum system i have ever been in has ended up with me having the most current dkp and the most overall dkp earned |
| 22:57.24 | Arrowmaster | so i could get whatever the fuck i wanted |
| 22:57.39 | NivFreak | and does that reflect something different than it should? |
| 22:57.46 | NivFreak | were you abusing some mechanic? |
| 22:57.48 | Arrowmaster | while others were so negative they could never get shit |
| 22:57.59 | NeoTron | NivFreak: my system has hidden bids but remove the need for longish open bidding process |
| 22:58.03 | Arrowmaster | i was abusing the 'warlocks only need one set of gear' mechanic |
| 22:58.12 | NeoTron | since you bid whatever you're willing to pay but only pay whatever the 2nd bidded bid +1 |
| 22:58.29 | gix | NivFreak: that's why you can up/downgrade stuff. |
| 22:58.33 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: well, anyone can abuse that if they want |
| 22:59.04 | Arrowmaster | the entire zero sum system encourages loot rot |
| 22:59.07 | NivFreak | NeoTron: yea, I've looked at your system before, and there are a few things I like about it |
| 22:59.17 | Arrowmaster | which is how its broken |
| 22:59.26 | gix | Arrowmaster: ours never did |
| 23:00.03 | Arrowmaster | you never had people pass up offspec upgrades just to not spend dkp? |
| 23:00.33 | gix | offspec usually didn't affect you, that's why it's called offspec |
| 23:01.08 | Arrowmaster | except its main spec for others |
| 23:01.25 | Arrowmaster | and then you could also you know change your offspec to be your mainspec later |
| 23:02.06 | Arrowmaster | but i havent used dkp since 40 mans, with less people now the drama is reduced some i guess |
| 23:02.23 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: well, in the system I was considering, 0 dkp bids would be allowed |
| 23:02.51 | NivFreak | for offspec/no-prefered |
| 23:03.14 | gix | Arrowmaster: we never had problems with that in the past. and spec-switches occured rarely. no clue how it's now in wotlk. and of course mainspec hat priority over offspec |
| 23:03.21 | NivFreak | I was also considering a zero sum system with no bonuses, and small penalties |
| 23:03.23 | Arrowmaster | ive never used one but i agree that a bid system setup properly to handle offspec and 'ill take it if nobody else wants it / neither of us really wants it lets just /roll it' stuff |
| 23:03.27 | Arrowmaster | would be the best |
| 23:03.34 | thul | what is the halaa-bombing good for? |
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| 23:04.32 | Primer | tokens |
| 23:04.51 | Primer | used to be good for a 10 resil gem |
| 23:04.52 | Arrowmaster | i gave up on zero sum when i had to give a ret pally a DST because none of the lazy officiers would object to it |
| 23:04.56 | Primer | at level 70 |
| 23:05.24 | NivFreak | so basically, I want to provide everyone with access to drops at what is fair relative value at the point they drop, allow for main specs to take some useful, but less desirable bits over offspecs, encourage select offspecs to gear first (DPS->OTs), and keep the remaining gear from creating shards unless no one needs it |
| 23:05.43 | Pneumatus | we use fixed price zero sum with prices for fullprice, upgrades and downgrades |
| 23:06.06 | Repo | 10daily-quest-viewer: 03Chingerayl * r73 / (4 files in 1 directory): daily-quest-viewer: |
| 23:06.07 | Repo | - Major version update; incompatible with previous versions |
| 23:06.08 | Repo | - Fixed issue which was causing DQV to repeatedly query the AceComm channel with category requests |
| 23:06.32 | Arrowmaster | ive been loot council since T5 instances |
| 23:06.36 | gix | Arrowmaster: i always laughed at other guilds when they made stupid loot decisions just because their "rules" or "system" told them to. it rarely happened with us, but when we intervened, just like a loot council. served us good for many years. |
| 23:06.47 | Pneumatus | loot council, more like popularity contest, amirite |
| 23:06.55 | Primer | fuckin A |
| 23:07.05 | Arrowmaster | well i was in charge of dkp at the time but i wasnt a guild officer so i had to follow the rules |
| 23:07.14 | Arrowmaster | so i couldnt just tell him to fuck off |
| 23:07.19 | Kaelten | New Alpha: http://static.curseforge.net/client/CurseSetup-2.1.0.0.Alpha4.exe Maily a bugfix/stability build. |
| 23:07.32 | NivFreak | Kaelten: mac? |
| 23:07.33 | Pneumatus | loot council assumes your raiders arent sensible enough to make decisions for themselves |
| 23:07.36 | Kaelten | NivFreak: :( |
| 23:07.44 | NivFreak | Kaelten: short list |
| 23:07.46 | NivFreak | seriously |
| 23:07.53 | Pneumatus | and relies on every loot council member knowing the ins and outs of every persons playstyle |
| 23:08.15 | Arrowmaster | Pneumatus: oh yeah i sorta agree my current guilds loot council is flawed |
| 23:08.25 | Arrowmaster | my old guilds was good |
| 23:08.29 | Kaelten | asmodai: ping |
| 23:08.32 | Kaelten | Belazor: ping |
| 23:08.41 | Fisker- | Kaelten: RAWR |
| 23:08.48 | Kaelten | Fisker-: :P |
| 23:08.52 | Fisker- | (That's my version of ping) |
| 23:08.53 | Pneumatus | for example, as a holy priest i'm now collecting a heavy crit based set, but other priests are after different stat balances |
| 23:09.12 | AckisWork | AckisWork: ping |
| 23:09.15 | AckisWork | AckisWork: pong |
| 23:09.18 | AckisWork | tehehe |
| 23:09.19 | NivFreak | DE all the mp5 cloth |
| 23:09.21 | Repo | 10broker_professions: 03durcyn * r36 Broker_Professions.lua: Add Inscription, set 'type' attributes on objects |
| 23:09.21 | Fisker- | AckisWork: GTFO |
| 23:09.25 | AckisWork | :( |
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| 23:09.36 | Stanzilla | where does this "Channel Roster" window come from? O.o |
| 23:09.53 | FroMaster | Anyone know if Sexymap can display the AntTrails from QuestHelper? |
| 23:09.56 | Saroz | Kaelten: looks neat |
| 23:10.04 | gix | Pneumatus: our classes worked together, not against each other. so stuff like that was rarely a problem |
| 23:10.26 | Pneumatus | gix: loot council invariably ends up a battle of wills though |
| 23:10.52 | Pneumatus | where someone else is basically telling you what gear is best for you |
| 23:11.07 | RaydenUni | Pitbull_FullBar shows a full bar on the unit frame. why would you do this? |
| 23:11.21 | Fisker- | pretty nice Kaelten |
| 23:11.32 | AckisWork | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13129077930&sid=1 |
| 23:11.38 | Stanzilla | http://tinyurl.com/6fv7tf < what's that |
| 23:11.50 | AckisWork | have they said if dual specs will take into account gems/inscriptions/enchants? |
| 23:12.07 | Fisker- | glyphs, yeah |
| 23:12.14 | EvilJohn | i recall glyphs as well |
| 23:12.28 | Fisker- | They haven't said anything about gear i think |
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| 23:12.35 | RaydenUni | why would gems,incriptions,enchants? |
| 23:12.40 | AckisWork | *nod* glyphs are the msot important |
| 23:12.40 | EvilJohn | i also recall something about bar layouts |
| 23:12.43 | RaydenUni | as those are more gear specific than talent specific |
| 23:12.46 | Saroz | Kaelten, fix my username already :S |
| 23:12.50 | RaydenUni | glyphs would be nice though |
| 23:12.57 | Fisker- | RaydenUni for a class that doesn't have vastly different purposes in their trees i guess |
| 23:13.01 | EvilJohn | they're a must have, in my opinion |
| 23:13.05 | Gnarfoz | glyphs are fucking throwaway items |
| 23:13.06 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:13.13 | Repo | 10nauticus: 03Drool * r103 / (5 files in 2 directories): - some esES translations |
| 23:13.14 | Repo | - add minimap button (default state is hidden) |
| 23:13.24 | RaydenUni | except you have to visit a city to change your glyph |
| 23:13.30 | RaydenUni | removing the purpose of changing talents on the fly |
| 23:13.30 | Gnarfoz | oh, that's bad right |
| 23:13.34 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 23:13.40 | Gnarfoz | they cost like 10s :\ |
| 23:13.43 | Arrowmaster | if glyphs werent marked up so damn high on the AH i wouldnt care as much if dual spec didnt include it |
| 23:13.48 | Gnarfoz | utterly worthless profession to have :\ |
| 23:13.48 | gix | Pneumatus: we used normal upgrade prices at first, too. but it creates problems in the long run. though that depends if you on whether you do resets each tier or not. |
| 23:13.51 | EvilJohn | 10s? not mine |
| 23:13.52 | Arrowmaster | i spent 200g today on glyphs |
| 23:13.53 | Gnarfoz | marked up? |
| 23:13.54 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 23:13.56 | AckisWork | I'm hoping I'll get three specs... Holy PvE, Shadow, and Disc PvP would be nice |
| 23:14.01 | Hjalte | Wasn't there an addon once, that let you assign raid icons to other raid members targets? |
| 23:14.06 | Gnarfoz | haha I wish I was on your servers |
| 23:14.09 | Pneumatus | we reset each tier, gix |
| 23:14.33 | Primer | Say I have a frame that's 512 width and scaled to 0.5. Then I have another frame that's a child of this frame, and it's scaled 0.5. I then want to move this frame relative to the parent frame. Is the movement scale 0.25 of the original frame? Meaning, x goes from 0 to 2048? |
| 23:14.58 | Primer | or is it simply based off the second frame's scale? |
| 23:15.48 | Pneumatus | Kaelten: alpha4 still isnt populating the changelog when you right click -> changelog |
| 23:15.58 | Stanzilla | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/172fb9a1736ff31f03fefa8a36fe2d4f.png O.o |
| 23:16.51 | Saroz | Kaelten, it wont identify LoggerHead |
| 23:17.01 | Pneumatus | also Kaelten: if you double click on an addon thats not got an update you get the "Show Info" pane, but if you double click on an addon with an update it updates... don't like the dual-functionality of an action |
| 23:17.31 | Arrowmaster | Stanzilla: i think thats something to do with the voice chat |
| 23:17.34 | Kaelten | Pneumatus: hrm, we'll have ot see what other people think there |
| 23:17.52 | Pneumatus | i double clicked on it to show the info for it, but instead it updated! |
| 23:18.01 | Kaelten | heh |
| 23:18.26 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: oh mkay |
| 23:18.46 | Pneumatus | also Kaelten: since you changed the Show Info pane, there doesn't seem to be a way to view the projects curse page |
| 23:18.58 | Fisker- | yeah Stanzilla |
| 23:18.59 | Kaelten | Pneumatus: that's already on the list again |
| 23:19.01 | Fisker- | alt+o if i recall |
| 23:19.02 | Pneumatus | so while the changelog isnt working i can't click anything to open it up |
| 23:19.04 | Fisker- | toggles it |
| 23:19.37 | Stanzilla | Fisker-: shift o it was, and thanks |
| 23:19.43 | Pneumatus | also Kaelten: the show info pane doesn't appear to populate description/changelog |
| 23:20.03 | Kaelten | Pneumatus: known issue, description will fill in after your first update |
| 23:20.08 | Pneumatus | aha |
| 23:20.20 | Kaelten | the changelog is just a place holder since I want to put that info there in the near future |
| 23:20.33 | Hirsute | Has the threadlocking been addressed? |
| 23:20.56 | Kaelten | Hirsute: yes, as best as we know. |
| 23:21.04 | Kaelten | all known locks/crashes have been fixed |
| 23:21.05 | Hirsute | Oooh, I'll have to try testing it again, then. |
| 23:22.32 | Pneumatus | it even looks like the "Downloadign" typo was fixed :P |
| 23:22.49 | Antiarc | ROFL |
| 23:22.52 | Antiarc | This bug is amazing |
| 23:23.06 | Antiarc | Master Poisoner is bugged and provides 3% raid crit per deadly poison application |
| 23:23.07 | Fisker- | shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare |
| 23:23.10 | Antiarc | And it stacks across rogues |
| 23:23.12 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 23:23.14 | Kody- | ;x |
| 23:23.15 | Fisker- | :33333333333333333333333333333333 |
| 23:23.15 | Antiarc | So 4 rogues = +60% raid crit |
| 23:23.31 | sacarasc | :o |
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| 23:23.38 | Antiarc | I'm DPSing on a dummy |
| 23:23.41 | Antiarc | And I'm crit capped |
| 23:23.43 | Antiarc | 804 melee swings |
| 23:23.48 | Antiarc | 440 crits |
| 23:23.51 | Antiarc | 5 non-crits |
| 23:23.55 | Antiarc | Others are misses or glances |
| 23:24.35 | Antiarc | The warlock with us has a 90% crit rate on Incinerate |
| 23:24.35 | AckisWork | Antiarc: quit hitting yourself dude |
| 23:26.55 | xyu | it applies to spells as well? hot streak goodness! |
| 23:26.55 | Aeyan | Haha |
| 23:27.05 | Antiarc | Yes, it's raidwide |
| 23:27.14 | Antiarc | Spells and physical |
| 23:27.20 | Antiarc | +15% crit per mut rogue in the raid |
| 23:28.08 | thul | haha |
| 23:28.10 | thul | that is good :-P |
| 23:28.16 | thul | maybe I should go raid :-D |
| 23:30.02 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1175 / (18 files in 3 directories): |
| 23:30.02 | Repo | Dataminer update, all scans probably will crash with this update since I cancelled the run half way through |
| 23:30.16 | Stanzilla | nice ackis |
| 23:30.21 | Stanzilla | sounds like a good idea :P |
| 23:31.49 | Fisker- | ghostcrawler is so awesome |
| 23:31.53 | NeoTron | so with our current raid makeup we have 3 out of 12 people sharing 40% of the token drops (since the 4-person token has 40% drop chance) |
| 23:31.55 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13129076593&pageNo=6&sid=1#111 |
| 23:32.02 | Fisker- | so glad i specced retribution <3 |
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| 23:32.34 | Fisker- | "Wat? Paladins don't need aoe heals!11" |
| 23:32.41 | Fisker- | "But they can't even cast because of this" |
| 23:32.44 | Fisker- | "blalablalblblablal" |
| 23:33.12 | Fisker- | looking forward to encounters that need 12 tanks |
| 23:33.12 | NeoTron | the vortex thing is fun as a DK |
| 23:33.24 | NeoTron | perfect timing to use my anti-magic shell every time it triggers so I take literally no damage |
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| 23:33.56 | Fisker- | Think i'm gonna rage a bit |
| 23:33.58 | Fisker- | then go to sleep |
| 23:34.01 | Fisker- | i be sick :( |
| 23:34.36 | doom0r | paladins don't need aoe heals at all, you just fill your raid with paladins and everyone heals themself |
| 23:34.41 | doom0r | ;x |
| 23:35.06 | NeoTron | but for malygos vortex... you can't |
| 23:35.07 | Fisker- | just replace the holy paladins with retribution paladins |
| 23:35.13 | Fisker- | let them art of war-heal through the shit |
| 23:35.13 | NeoTron | since it only allows instant cast spells |
| 23:35.24 | doom0r | Fisker-: srsly |
| 23:35.26 | doom0r | that is crazy |
| 23:35.42 | NeoTron | 20000 damage over 10 seconds + fall damage with only instant cast heals allowed |
| 23:35.43 | doom0r | art of war is practically god mode |
| 23:35.54 | Fisker- | yeah! |
| 23:35.59 | Fisker- | it's actually funny |
| 23:36.09 | Fisker- | my Flash of Light's heal a lot when i got shit popped :P |
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| 23:36.22 | Fisker- | with an extra ~2000 ATP + 20% healing from AW |
| 23:36.35 | doom0r | plus crit to spells is huge so mad sheath's |
| 23:37.32 | Fisker- | oh well |
| 23:37.34 | Fisker- | sleep tiems |
| 23:37.48 | Fisker- | perhaps tomorrow is another day for laughing at Ghostcrawler and his insane explanations |
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| 23:41.58 | NivFreak | RaydenUni: I use pitbull_fullbar to just display information on |
| 23:42.06 | NivFreak | scrolls down |
| 23:44.37 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 23:44.40 | RaydenUni | like what? |
| 23:44.52 | RaydenUni | also longest time between question and response |
| 23:45.09 | NivFreak | soryr |
| 23:45.11 | NivFreak | I'm at work |
| 23:45.12 | NivFreak | :P |
| 23:45.24 | NivFreak | I use it to display name/class color/level |
| 23:45.28 | NivFreak | iirc |
| 23:45.42 | RaydenUni | i'm mostly satisfied with default |
| 23:45.47 | NivFreak | sure |
| 23:45.49 | RaydenUni | name, health on hp |
| 23:45.50 | NivFreak | but not everyone is |
| 23:45.55 | RaydenUni | level, class, race on mana |
| 23:46.00 | RaydenUni | i do have castbar on |
| 23:46.04 | RaydenUni | i put combo points on that |
| 23:46.11 | RaydenUni | since overlapping combo points and text is not good |
| 23:46.22 | NivFreak | I should put my flamebait broken UI up |
| 23:46.29 | RaydenUni | i'd like to see it |
| 23:46.30 | NivFreak | it's so busy with all the shit I was trying out |
| 23:46.31 | NivFreak | ahah |
| 23:46.49 | RaydenUni | trust me |
| 23:46.51 | RaydenUni | i'll understand |
| 23:47.09 | NivFreak | I don't know that I can do this |
| 23:47.14 | NivFreak | it's so.... aweful |
| 23:47.16 | NivFreak | and busy |
| 23:48.10 | NivFreak | http://casualcorps.com/pics/fun/heigan-lol.jpg |
| 23:48.11 | NivFreak | hides |
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| 23:48.32 | NivFreak | disclaimer: I just hit 80 and was playing with things |
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| 23:49.11 | NivFreak | I really need to cleanup my debuffs and SCT |
| 23:49.45 | CrazyBenny_ | can you see anything else than mods? :o |
| 23:49.50 | NivFreak | yes, normally :P |
| 23:49.55 | NivFreak | that was an aweful screenshot |
| 23:50.15 | NivFreak | I'm also zoomed way in |
| 23:50.20 | NivFreak | for some random reason |
| 23:50.44 | NivFreak | http://casualcorps.com/pics/fun/kj-wiping.jpg <-- last bad |
| 23:50.46 | NivFreak | less |
| 23:50.49 | NivFreak | but still busy |
| 23:50.55 | NivFreak | and recount is open for some random reason |
| 23:52.30 | Aeyan | Infolicious? |
| 23:52.39 | CrazyBenny_ | too much sct |
| 23:52.44 | NivFreak | CrazyBenny_: agreed |
| 23:53.11 | NivFreak | it always looks a lot worse in screenshots though :) |
| 23:53.40 | CrazyBenny_ | yea, it can be configured to show only useful stuff tho I believe |
| 23:54.04 | NivFreak | MSBT at least requires you to exclude, so it's a long process (at least as far as I've found) |
| 23:54.30 | NivFreak | and having to type in each item to ignore, is tedious :) |
| 23:54.45 | NivFreak | but I agree, my SCT and debuff/buffs are out of control |
| 23:55.16 | CrazyBenny_ | and the xperl graphics are awful imo, but yea :) |
| 23:55.18 | NivFreak | it's not so insane without them |
| 23:55.20 | NivFreak | http://casualcorps.com/pics/fun/mammoth.jpg |
| 23:55.23 | *** join/#wowace Bloodspirit (n=haha@0x50a460f8.odnxx5.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 23:55.26 | NivFreak | that's pitbull |
| 23:55.28 | NivFreak | not xperl |
| 23:55.48 | CrazyBenny_ | oh |
| 23:55.55 | Aeyan | Wipes in progress screenshots are always entertaining, hehe |
| 23:56.06 | NivFreak | well, i usually tank |
| 23:56.07 | Bloodspirit | hey there! anyone know if there is an anchor point to bartender4's petbar so i can anchor it to a kgpanel panel?! |
| 23:56.13 | NivFreak | so I'm always going to have a lot of SCT spam |
| 23:56.19 | NivFreak | even from just damage/healing |
| 23:56.28 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r463 Coldarra/Grand_Magus_Telestra.lua: Dry code fix for split soon warning |
| 23:56.53 | Aeyan | DK tanking has been a lot of fun |
| 23:56.57 | Aeyan | F you, shields |
| 23:58.16 | NivFreak | wait until the nerf bat swings |
| 23:58.20 | NivFreak | then we'll talk |
| 23:58.44 | Bloodspirit | anyone know if bartender4's petbar has an anchor point? |
| 23:59.38 | *** part/#wowace CrazyBenny_ (n=s_m@actplus.cust.sloane.cz) |
