IRC log for #wowace on 20081123

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00:05.53thulmy ui looks like shit, but works ok
00:06.06FtH|Daemonai dont get it, how do i figure out what the matter is with not being able to login a char successfully, running the same addons with a different char on the same account works fine. some kind of savedvar corruptions?
00:06.19ramozcache issues?
00:06.47FtH|Daemonacould you elaborate?
00:07.18FtH|Daemonai can login sucessful on that bad char without any addon, but cant even if i disable all addons that generate output in the FrameXML.log
00:07.26ramozoh
00:07.41ramozi've had issues with my cache beeing borked (corrupt?), so when i try to login in a big city i get disconnected
00:07.57FtH|Daemonaok, dalaran trade quarter anyone?
00:07.58FtH|Daemona-.-
00:08.11FtH|Daemonaguess i gonna test logging in without addons, move to a silent place and relog with addons?
00:08.22ramozmaybe
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00:15.39thulare there any easy/simple way of removing blizzard party/user frames? I use icehud and grid, I do not want party frames or my own user frame :-P
00:16.37Fisker-suddenly you will be ended thul
00:18.25Groktarpounces from the shadows
00:18.55sacarascevicerates Groktar
00:19.07sacarasc*eviscerates
00:19.46Fisker-tames Groktar and teaches him jump from a cliff (rank 1)
00:21.43Groktarjumps
00:22.06Fisker-you also die btw
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00:22.55FtH|Daemonaping Xinhuan
00:23.23FtH|DaemonaIs there a reason why i cant create a route for "treasure" type items?
00:24.58Groktaram i alone in thinking that the well in dalaran connecting to the sewer is unsanitary?
00:29.48Fisker-one way matter bridge
00:30.01thulFisker-:P
00:30.09thulevisc is better these days from some reason
00:32.35thulwhat is the name of the movie where a guy falls in love with a whore, helps get her from her pimp, steal some dope, run to vegas, his father gets killed by the mob... etc?
00:32.38thuli can't for my life remember.
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00:41.45evonderTrue Romance?
00:42.07evonderwith Cristian Slater
00:42.32BreezeIs there something like AceTimer that can takes mouse/keyboard actions into account? I'd like to invite multiple people to the calendar. but the calendar invite function has an time limit and is probably also secured (only works after mouse/keyboard input). Or does anyone have pointers on how to do this?
00:43.00thulyeah evonder  :-D
00:43.04thuli ound it, but thanks anyway :-D
00:43.13evonder;)
00:44.31nevcairielBreeze: you cant automate any functions that need keyboard input. no way to do it
00:49.37Breezenevcairiel,  I see. I'll just make a keybound macro then and spam it. That would work right?
00:51.06quiescenswhy would the calendar functions be secure
00:51.21quiescensthat sounds pointless
00:56.26Yssarilquiescens: only reason i can think of is to limit spam (because spam would waste bandwidth)
00:58.01Megalonso you can't create events and invite the whole server into them? ;)
00:58.45Megalonwould be the new form of goldspam, make an calender event, invite players you get from /who queries :S
01:00.30AdirelleZhinjio: could you file a ticket with a sample failing code ?
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01:11.04quiescenson an unrelated note, I think msbt has an issue with npc's with a - in their name
01:15.41Groktardoes prat do weird things for anyone else when there's an apostrophe in a link?
01:15.55Groktarthe rest of the link goes the same color as the link
01:16.59sylvanaarprovide the actual link
01:17.05quiescensyeah
01:17.11quiescensexample link would be helpful
01:17.23quiescenswhat kind of link?
01:17.24Groktarachievement links
01:17.25Groktarsec
01:17.34sylvanaar=  /print "[link]"
01:17.43sylvanaarits very possible
01:18.05sylvanaarespecially in acievement links
01:19.08sylvanaarlua> print("ABCD"):match("%I64x")
01:19.08lua_botsylvanaar: ABCD, luabot:1: attempt to index a nil value
01:19.26sylvanaarlua> print(("ABCD"):match("%I64x"))
01:19.26lua_botsylvanaar: nil
01:19.41sylvanaarwowo must have made up thier own extension
01:20.56Groktarwww.guild-impulse.net/images/apostrophe.jpg
01:24.18Adirellenight
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01:27.32sylvanaarcan you just do /print
01:27.56Groktar/print what?
01:28.01sylvanaarthe link
01:28.21sylvanaaror better
01:28.32sylvanaarits your chatlog
01:28.37sylvanaartype /chatlog
01:28.42Groktargave me an error
01:28.51sylvanaaruse quotes
01:29.04sylvanaartype /print "link"
01:29.48Groktarkk
01:30.30Groktarsame thing
01:30.46sylvanaarsame what thing
01:30.47Groktarer, not same
01:30.56Groktarthe link is yellow up until the apostrophe
01:31.02Groktarthen the s is gray and the rest is white
01:31.11sylvanaarwith print?
01:31.14Groktarya
01:31.23Groktarwant picture?
01:31.29sylvanaardo
01:31.32Groktarkk
01:31.43sylvanaar<PROTECTED>
01:33.13sylvanaarlua> ("|cffffd000|Htrade:%d:%d:%d:%I64X"):(0,0,0,0xFFFFEEEEDDDDBBBB)
01:33.14lua_botsylvanaar: luabot:1: '<name>' expected near '('
01:33.27sylvanaarlua> ("|cffffd000|Htrade:%d:%d:%d:%I64X"):format(0,0,0,0xFFFFEEEEDDDDBBBB)
01:33.27lua_botsylvanaar: luabot:1: invalid option '%I' to 'format'
01:33.44sylvanaarthey made it up
01:33.53Groktarreturns nothing
01:34.24Groktarif i shift click from my achievement page into prat it works correctly
01:34.39Groktarit's only when other people get the achievements that it's wrong
01:35.13Matrix110hmm is there a Dalaran Mount macro fix? :P
01:35.30Matrix110in dalaran [flyable] is true but you arent allowed to use flying mounts...
01:35.35Matrix110fucks my mount macro
01:35.42sylvanaarsomeone in your guld has a name like A[16:31:52]     MESSAGE = " has come online.",
01:36.12Groktarooh
01:36.15sylvanaarsomeone in your guld has a name like AÅ 
01:36.20MegalonMatrix110: i use [mod:alt] to cast groundmount, there is no fix that [flyable] will return false for dalaran :(
01:36.37Matrix110:-(
01:37.18sylvanaarGroktar i know, a few people have reported it
01:37.28sylvanaarbut noone gives me links
01:37.35sylvanaarget it from your /chatlog
01:40.40sylvanaar|cffffd000|Htrade:45542:446:450:21EFBE6:xG[{yK|h[First Aid]|h|
01:40.49sylvanaarthats a good link
01:41.27Groktarwhat am i looking for in my chatlog?
01:41.44sylvanaarit matches ("|cffffd000|Htrade:%d:%d:%d:%I64X") then matches "|h[%s]|h|r"
01:41.48sylvanaarthe link
01:41.53sylvanaaryou were linking
01:41.57sylvanaaror that you saw
01:42.04Groktari turned on /chatlog and did the Prat.PrintLiteral("link")
01:42.10Groktarand whispered it to myself
01:42.18sylvanaarhave someone else do it
01:42.25Groktarok
01:43.33ckknightso I'm working on the css for a blog, and you know what I've realized?
01:43.36ckknightIE can fucking blow me
01:43.41ckknightfuck you IE
01:43.43ckknightfuck you.
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01:43.56sylvanaarlua> print(("%I64X"):format("21EFBE6"))
01:43.57lua_botsylvanaar: luabot:1: invalid option '%I' to 'format'
01:43.57ckknightalright, I've had my say
01:45.26Groktarit just looks like 11/22 17:44:38.937  Avers whispers:  50 Stone Keeper's Shards
01:45.31Groktarin chatlog
01:46.06thulhttp://healadinbaby.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/wowscrnshot_110908_211207.jpg <- I like that ui
01:46.17Groktaris there any other way to get the link?
01:46.39sylvanaardo you have ace2 standalone?
01:46.50sylvanaaror anything that uses rock
01:47.16Groktari think i have ace2
01:47.45Groktari can /ace2 and get Ace2: AddOn development framework
01:48.09Groktarrock too
01:48.32Arrowmasterlooks like shitty pattern usage
01:49.08Groktarevery single achievement with an apostrophe in it does that for me
01:49.36Groktari'm going to make a level 1 on another account with everything disabled but prat
01:49.38Groktarsee what happens
01:49.40Arrowmasterwhich sends a red flag that theres probably a pattern being uses thats stupid
01:49.42sylvanaar|cffffd000|Htrade:51296:384:450:21EFBE6:rKG>zy]uxkxS?z{WJEd{{?<<K{[|h[Cooking]|h|r
01:49.46sylvanaaranother example
01:50.47sylvanaarwhat version are you using?
01:50.56Groktarok, it works correctly
01:51.02Groktaron my level 1 when i sent it to her
01:51.14Groktarso it might not be prat
01:51.14sylvanaaryeah, its because of the
01:51.43sylvanaari need a list of the players in your name cache
01:51.46Arrowmastersent what?
01:52.01sylvanaarthe link
01:52.25Groktarok, how do i get that list?
01:52.30Arrowmasterbut its happening on the achievement gained event
01:52.38Groktarya
01:53.00sylvanaarlike /print Prat.Addon.modules["PlayerNames"].Classes
01:53.29Arrowmasteryou color other players names anytime their found?
01:53.34Groktarit said table: 190A6768
01:53.35sylvanaaryes
01:53.37Matrix110ok Megalon I found Squire its awesome :D
01:53.51Matrix110changes macro when you are in Dalaran and when you enter Krasus Landing :D
01:53.54Groktaris there going to be a list in my chatlog?
01:53.59sylvanaarlike /script Prat.PrintLiteral(Prat.Addon.modules["PlayerNames"].Classes)
01:54.09sylvanaaroh, you need the Prat_Debug pullout
01:54.23Groktardoh
01:54.31Arrowmastermore reason im glad i dont use prat anymore, thats just stupid to do it on events like that
01:54.40sylvanaarshut up Arrowmaster
01:55.06sylvanaarthis is an obscure case
01:55.26Megalonan apostrophe is 'an obscure case'? :D
01:55.33Megalonscnr :P
01:55.50Groktaran apostrophe in achievment with something weird in my names cache, apparently
01:56.14sylvanaarhe has a name whith a multibyte first char
01:56.18sylvanaarmost likely
01:56.38sylvanaarsomething along those lines
01:57.46doom0rckknight: if MS won't follow HIG, i'd never expect them to make anything sane..... HIG is just common sense ffs
01:58.09Matrix110HIG?
01:58.16ckknightHuman interface guidelines
01:58.20doom0rHuman Interface Guildelines
01:58.36ckknightwell, the fact that that they lag behind in support for standard CSS is what perturbs me most
01:58.49ckknightimo, they should adopt Webkit and have IE just wrap around that :-P
01:59.23Matrix110MS using opensource for their Browser? dream on
01:59.25sylvanaarwhy though - it costs them money to do, and time
01:59.51ckknightI'm just talking about the engine
01:59.57ckknightkeep their GUI
02:00.00sylvanaarare you using IE8?
02:00.01doom0rbecause all their money is made on buying businesses
02:00.02doom0rnot sales
02:00.11ckknightsylvanaar: no, because no one is, also, I use a mac
02:00.36sylvanaarwell, IE7 being put out to pasture
02:00.45ckknightsylvanaar: IE8 isn't released, and the fact that its standard support is better doesn't invalidate my claim that it lags behind in support
02:01.07sylvanaarbut they arent going to develop it further
02:01.15sylvanaarthats im saying
02:01.20ckknight?
02:01.23ckknightwhat do you mean?
02:01.34doom0rthat ie7 is dead
02:01.37doom0rbut it's not
02:01.42sylvanaarthey are working on 8, you are sayint what they should do
02:02.35ckknightno, what I'm saying is that the equivalent of what 8 is now is what they should've had over a year ago
02:03.00sylvanaarok
02:03.30Matrix110the problem was the devs @MS got lazy because everybody basically used IE and every webdev HAD to code that the IE displays it correct and not how it should be :P
02:03.42Matrix110they are atleast trying to adress the problems now but it takes quite some time
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02:03.58doom0rkey there is HAD
02:03.58ckknightand even so, in a year or two, people will still use IE6
02:04.04Matrix110ckknight true :D
02:04.09ckknightwhich is complete bullshit
02:04.16Matrix110Browsers require a Deathdate :D
02:04.19sylvanaarthey are still using windows98
02:04.20ckknightat least on curseforge/wowace we no longer care for IE6
02:04.21doom0rpublicity of alternatives is pushing IE de facto status down
02:04.26ckknightthe numbers are like 6% or so
02:04.33ckknightFirefox takes the lion's share
02:04.47Matrix110Well Firefox is not really great either :P
02:04.55doom0rit's simply a matter of your target audience
02:04.58Matrix110Iam using it but just because i cba getting used to other ones :D
02:04.58ckknighttrue, but at least it's better
02:04.59doom0rconsumer vs corporate
02:05.07LoonacyMy company does a lot of work for the government, it's pretty much 90% IE6 and 10% IE7.
02:05.09sylvanaari have both
02:05.17sylvanaarthey both have flaws
02:05.17ckknightLoonacy: fucking government
02:05.19Arrowmasterfirefox is the best browser as far as im concerned
02:05.35ckknightArrowmaster: I use Opera, personally
02:05.44Matrix110Firefox has quite alot of glitches but in general its fine
02:05.52doom0rshhh Arrowmaster: Iceweasel or you'll get the Deb nuts after you
02:05.55LoonacyI don't know how i ever lived before NoScript.
02:06.15Arrowmasteri consider it to have the best renderer
02:06.22Arrowmasteri dont like opera or webkit
02:06.35Matrix110Opera is great but I lack AddOns from Firefox
02:07.11LoonacyI used Chrome for about a week, it wasn't too bad.
02:07.13sylvanaartransparent webproxies of all shapes and sizes have been around for  along time.
02:07.24Matrix110Chrome or Safari are no alternatives anyway :P Google has enough data from me already and Apple is way worse than MS even
02:08.12Matrix110But I really like every Chrome tab running as their own process so they only crash tabwise and not the whole browser
02:08.13doom0rwhat Matrix110 said, Addons
02:08.23sylvanaarApple (like Linux) has alot of the "OH I LOVE THIS" crowd to help prop it up
02:08.26doom0rthat's why you would expect to see firefox as a leading hitter for something like a game site
02:08.42doom0rgaming community has been into modding stuff for ever
02:09.06sylvanaaralso, maybe the people who would use IE are already using CC
02:09.13ckknightdoom0r: I'd say also corporate vs. personal plays a role in that, too
02:09.17Arrowmasterfirefox was like over 50% of the wowace forums traffic
02:09.32ckknightArrowmaster: still is, for both wowace and curseforge
02:09.40ckknightnot positive on curse.com's numbers
02:09.42sylvanaarnerd forums
02:11.01Matrix110Well its not like Firefox is a "nerd" browser anymore
02:11.09sylvanaarwell. neither IE nor FF can properly sign me onto wowace or curseforge on thier first attempt..
02:11.27Matrix110sylvanaar I dont think thats the Browsers fault then ;)
02:11.30sylvanaarnerds and friends of nerds
02:11.48ckknightsylvanaar: yea, I blame that on the shitty auth service
02:11.52sylvanaarand anyone else the nerd can get to use it
02:12.17doom0rnerds make the world happen
02:12.52Repo10libbabble-boss-3-0: 037destiny * r123 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: koKR Update
02:13.15sylvanaarso wow apparently has some private format string "|cffffd000|Htrade:%d:%d:%d:%I64X:"
02:13.42Arrowmasteryeah its in the exe
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02:13.45Arrowmasteror something
02:13.59sylvanaaryeah
02:14.10Matrix110god giev CC with external support my loading times are killing me
02:14.35ZhinjioTorhal: I'll throw a ticket up shortly. Gonna try and come up with a good "base case" that fails.
02:15.00Matrix110And because other mods use "libs" aswell I break tons of stuff if I just search for "libs" and delete every folder :D
02:15.10sylvanaarthis is as much as I could get out of the exe: http://nerd.pastey.net/102542
02:16.50sylvanaari think some of the names i gave things may be incorrect
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02:18.08ckknightwoo, my blog is now Web 2.0
02:18.11ckknightI have rounded corners.
02:18.36doom0rlibrams can be swapped inside the global cooldown fyi
02:18.37ckknightI dare anyone here to prove that that isn't the definition of Web 2.0
02:18.47doom0ryou can creat a rotation to swap them for subsequent attacks
02:18.58LoonacyWeb 2.0 doesn't have a definition.
02:18.58doom0ris it flash?
02:19.02LoonacyIt's whatever you want it to be.
02:19.18Zyndromeckknight , does it also have buttons with a reflection? :p
02:19.39LoonacyReflections that reflect your mouse cursor?  That'd be cool!
02:19.43Megalondoom0r: only that swapping resets your swingtimer ;x
02:19.53ckknightZyndrome: no buttons except a Submit for comments
02:20.23Zyndromewe should go back to how website were like 15 years ago
02:20.35ZyndromeX amount of javascripts for ripple-effects and stuff
02:21.18doom0ri'll look at that Megalon
02:21.30doom0rdidn't notice
02:23.23Brunersweb2.0 is user created stuff
02:24.04ckknightweb 2.0 = you create the content, I get the money
02:24.54doom0rindeed
02:25.49sylvanaarlua> print(("|cffffd000|Htrade:51296:384:450:21EFBE6:rKG>zy]uxkxS?z{WJEd{{?<<K{[|h[Cooking]|h|r):match("|cff(%x+)|H(trade):(%d):(%d):(%d):(%x+):([/060-/132]+)[|h[([^%]]-)]|h|r"))
02:25.49lua_botsylvanaar: luabot:1: ')' expected near '|'
02:25.59ckknightdoom0r: and sadly, I despise flash, so no, it's not that
02:26.24sylvanaarlua> print(("|cffffd000|Htrade:51296:384:450:21EFBE6:rKG>zy]uxkxS?z{WJEd{{?<<K{[|h[Cooking]|h|r"):match("|cff(%x+)|H(trade):(%d):(%d):(%d):(%x+):([/060-/132]+)[|h[([^%]]-)]|h|r"))
02:26.25lua_botsylvanaar: nil
02:26.47doom0ri do too
02:26.56doom0rbut that seems to be most people's definition ckknight
02:27.02ckknightshudders
02:27.12ckknightto me, Flash is the antithesis of Web 2.0
02:27.55sylvanaarlua> print(("|cffffd000|Htrade:51296:384:450:21EFBE6:rKG>zy]uxkxS?z{WJEd{{?<<K{[|h[Cooking]|h|r"):match("|cff(%x+)|H(trade):(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):(%x+):([/060-/132]+)[|h[([^%]]-)]|h|r"))
02:27.55lua_botsylvanaar: nil
02:28.22Brunersflash should die
02:28.47sylvanaarlua> print(("|cffffd000|Htrade:51296:384:450:21EFBE6:rKG>zy]uxkxS?z{WJEd{{?<<K{[|h[Cooking]|h|r"):match("|cff(%x+)|H(trade):(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):(%x+):([/060-/132]+)%[|h[([^%]]-)%]|h|r"))
02:28.48lua_botsylvanaar: nil
02:28.58ckknightwell, I think with HTML5 and proper CSS support and all that good stuff, Flash becomes less and less necessary
02:29.24thulagalloch is nice raiding backgroundmusic
02:29.30ckknightbut with IE6 and such still clinging on for life, such things won't be useful to code against for a good long time
02:29.55ckknightI know that for non-personal projects, supporting the old browsers are important (if the numbers ask for it)
02:30.18ckknightcurseforge/wowace is kind of a fluke because although it's corporate-backed, the userbase is predominantly firefox
02:30.37ckknightso supporting IE is not a high priority
02:30.43ckknightor at least, not as high a priority
02:31.14sylvanaarlua> print(("|cffffd000|Htrade:51296:384:450:21EFBE6:rKG>zy]uxkxS?z{WJEd{{?<<K{[|h[Cooking]|h|r"):match("|cff(%x+)|H(trade):(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):(%x+):([\060-\132]+)%[|h[([^%]]-)%]|h|r"))
02:31.14lua_botsylvanaar: luabot:1: invalid pattern capture
02:31.26Brunersthose who dont use firefox should be using Opera or Safari
02:32.00ckknightI use Opera. Firefox doesn't work well for the features I like for my OS (Mac OS X)
02:32.17ckknightand Safari doesn't have the features I want, and it doesn't have extensions
02:32.25SunTsuckknight: I mostly use FF, too, when visiting wowace - mostly because I can't get Opera to login, always tells me about cookie problems
02:32.38ckknightSunTsu: I fixed those issues
02:32.46ckknightseeing as I use Opera, I wanted to be able to log in
02:33.16SunTsuckknight: You did? OK, I'll try again. Would be great
02:33.28ckknightyea, it should work just fine now
02:34.18sylvanaarlua> print(("|cffffd000|Htrade:45542:446:450:21EFBE6:xG[{yK|h[First Aid]|h|"):match("|cff(%x+)|H(trade):(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):(%x+):([\060-\123]+)%[|h[([^%]]-)%]|h|r"))
02:34.18lua_botsylvanaar: nil
02:35.52SunTsu"There was an error with cookies, please try again." - and I am accepting all cookies from wowace.com
02:35.57sylvanaarlua> print(("|cffffd000|Htrade:45542:446:450:21EFBE6:xG[{yK|h[First Aid]|h|"):match("|cff(%x+)|H(trade):(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):(%x+):([\060-\123]+)"))
02:35.57lua_botsylvanaar: ffd000, trade, 45542, 446, 450, 21EFBE6, xG[{yK
02:36.05SunTsuAnd of course I tried again ;)
02:38.25sylvanaarlua> print(("|cffffd000|Htrade:45542:446:450:21EFBE6:xG[{yK|h[First Aid]|h|"):match("|cff(%x+)|H(trade):(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):(%x+):([\060-\123]+)|h%[([^%]]-)%]|h|r"))
02:38.25lua_botsylvanaar: nil
02:41.30sylvanaarhmm..
02:43.18SunTsuckknight: Still looks the same to me
02:43.29ckknightnot letting you log in?
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02:43.49ckknightsighs
02:43.52ckknightjust keep trying to log in
02:44.02ckknightalso, what version of Opera?
02:44.04SunTsuckknight: No, still complaining about cookies
02:44.16SunTsuckknight: 9.27
02:44.17ckknight9.6 or something else?
02:44.32ckknightum, can you upgrade?
02:44.36ckknightI've only tested with 9.5+
02:44.48SunTsuOk, I'll do it later
02:44.50ckknightk
02:44.51ckknightthanks
02:45.10ckknightdue to the small userbase of Opera, supported version = whatever I'm using
02:45.28ckknightand I keep it upgraded
02:47.11sylvanaarto think their format for profession links needs an extra : afyter the binary data field
02:47.52sylvanaar|cffffd000|Htrade:51296:384:450:21EFBE6:rKG>zy]uxkxS?z{WJEd{{?<<K{:[|h[Cooking]|h|r
02:48.03sylvanaari think that would make more sense
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02:49.05sylvanaarlua> print(("|cffffd000|Htrade:45542:446:450:21EFBE6:xG[{yK:|h[First Aid]|h|"):match("|cff(%x+)|H(trade):(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):(%x+):([\060-\123]+):|h%[([^%]]-)%]|h|r"))
02:49.06lua_botsylvanaar: nil
02:50.03sylvanaarlua> print(("|cffffd000|Htrade:45542:446:450:21EFBE6:xG[{yK:|h[First Aid]|h|r"):match("|cff(%x+)|H(trade):(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):(%x+):([\060-\123]+):(.-)|h|r")
02:50.03lua_botsylvanaar: luabot:1: ')' expected near '<eof>'
02:50.24sylvanaarlua> print(("|cffffd000|Htrade:45542:446:450:21EFBE6:xG[{yK:|h[First Aid]|h|r"):match("|cff(%x+)|H(trade):(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):(%x+):([\060-\123]+):(.-)|h|r"))
02:50.24lua_botsylvanaar: ffd000, trade, 45542, 446, 450, 21EFBE6, xG[{yK, |h[First Aid]
02:50.33thulblizzard party frames annoy me :-(
02:51.20sylvanaarlua> print(("|cffffd000|Htrade:45542:446:450:21EFBE6:xG[{yK:|h[First Aid]|h|r"):match("|cff(%x+)|H(trade):(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):(%x+):([\060-\123]+):|h(.-)|h|r"))
02:51.20lua_botsylvanaar: ffd000, trade, 45542, 446, 450, 21EFBE6, xG[{yK, [First Aid]
02:51.59Megalonsylvanaar: can't you just use [^:] for the encoded bitfield?
02:52.10sylvanaarbut, they dont have a colon, i guess since |isnt a valid char in their encoding
02:52.12sylvanaarno
02:52.26sylvanaartheir encoding is 0x60-0x123
02:52.35Megalonah then
02:53.00sylvanaarlua> print(("|cffffd000|Htrade:45542:446:450:21EFBE6:xG[{yK|h[First Aid]|h|r"):match("|cff(%x+)|H(trade):(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):(%x+):([\060-\123]+)|h(.-)|h|r"))
02:53.01lua_botsylvanaar: ffd000, trade, 45542, 446, 450, 21EFBE6, xG[{yK, [First Aid]
02:53.09sylvanaaroh, that works
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03:01.37thulwoo
03:05.30sylvanaarok so in blizzards encoding you use chars < -> {, it excludes } from the encoding
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03:06.17sylvanaarwhat happens when it hit: for tag in string.gmatch(arg1, "%b{}") do
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03:31.51ZhinjioTorhal: after further testing, it seems like everything works except using "0" as the colspan
03:31.59ZhinjioI will pastey it into the ticket
03:32.14Repo10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro * r158 / (20 files in 2 directories): ArkInventory:
03:32.15Repo- 3.02.07
03:35.07sylvanaar>lua print(("|cff%s|Htrade:%d:%d:%d:%s:%s|h[%s]|h|r"):format("ffd000", "trade", 45542, 446, 450, "21EFBE6", "xG[{yK". "First Aid"))
03:35.21sylvanaarlua> print(("|cff%s|Htrade:%d:%d:%d:%s:%s|h[%s]|h|r"):format("ffd000", "trade", 45542, 446, 450, "21EFBE6", "xG[{yK". "First Aid"))
03:35.21lua_botsylvanaar: luabot:1: ')' expected near '.'
03:36.11sylvanaarlua> print(("|cff%s|Htrade:%d:%d:%d:%s:%s|h[%s]|h|r"):format("ffd000", "trade", 45542, 446, 450, "21EFBE6", "xG[{yK", "First Aid"))
03:36.11lua_botsylvanaar: luabot:1: bad argument #2 to 'format' (number expected, got string)
03:36.28Repo10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro 043.02.07 * r159 : Tagging as 3.02.07
03:36.36sylvanaarlua> print(("|cff%s|Htrade:%d:%d:%d:%s:%s|h[%s]|h|r"):format("ffd000", 45542, 446, 450, "21EFBE6", "xG[{yK", "First Aid"))
03:36.36lua_botsylvanaar: |cffffd000|Htrade:45542:446:450:21EFBE6:xG[{yK|h[First Aid]|h|r
03:37.01Repo10cartographer_quest-info: 03lahow * r77 / (5 files in 2 directories): Cartographer_QuestInfo:
03:37.02Repo- add auto update feature
03:37.25sylvanaartry that on your server /script ChatFrame1:AddMessage("|cffffd000|Htrade:45542:446:450:21EFBE6:xG[{yK|h[First Aid]|h|r")
03:38.37CIA-63tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * rdfbf7ba 10/ (2 files): Ally NR guide tweaks - http://is.gd/8D0j
03:38.38CIA-63tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * rdebd747 10/ Parser.lua : Force caching of any use items we don't know when a guide is loaded, so that the use button works when we need it - http://is.gd/8D0k
03:38.45Repo10cartographer_quest-info: 03lahow 043.0.3.1 * r78 : Tagging as 3.0.3.1
03:39.11thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/422487647_6eMSo-O.png <- approved UI?
03:46.29ckknightlooks reasonable, thul
03:48.07ZhinjioTorhal: ticket posted
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03:50.23TorhalZhinjio: Did you get the colspan to somewhat work that way?
03:51.43thulckknight: I just have to have scripts to remove party/userframes each time they pop up :-P
03:51.50thuldirty hack, but I guess it is all i can do with my wits :-D
03:52.09ZhinjioI think my initial errors were from using a colspan that was larger than the number of columns
03:52.16Zhinjiohowever, the "0" is supposed to work, and doesn't at all
03:52.29Zhinjioif I specify the number of columns exactly, it works as expected
03:52.37ckknightthul seems like it'd be cool if you could, like, move your mouse all the way to the left of the screen and then they'd slide out
03:52.43ckknightor something.
03:52.54ckknightoverkill, though
03:53.43thulckknight: yeah
03:53.53thuland I have yet to decide what solution to use to keep an eye on runes
03:53.59thulbut so far I think that omniCC is enough
03:54.04SunTsuDamn, quest with raid on undercity failed for me. For the mage who was with me it succeded. She was ported out, I remained. Mobs respawned, I am dead.
03:54.12ckknightpart of me wishes I had time to just sit down and code an awesome UI
03:54.21thulhehe, yeha..
03:54.24thulI have my last exam the 3.
03:54.29thulI'll spend more time wowing after that
03:54.34thulcreating an UI that I actually like
03:54.35ckknightI'd have the slide-out thing...
03:54.46ckknightcause things that slide are shiny
03:54.51thulhaha
03:54.55Stanzillaweb 2.0 ui!
03:54.59ckknightI demand shininess!
03:55.07ckknightexactly, Stanzilla
03:55.10ckknightWeb 2.0 in WoW
03:55.12thulas long as I have shiny stuff and sounds when i get a new crit-record, I am happy
03:55.12Stanzilla:)
03:55.13ckknightto the extreme!
03:55.16SunTsuvomits
03:55.23ckknightlol, SunTsu
03:55.41thulwell, bedtime
03:55.42thulnite peeps
03:56.27SunTsunight, thul
03:56.56Repo10cartographer_quest-info: 03next96 * r79 Locale/Locale-koKR.lua: Cartographer_QuestInfo:
03:56.57Repo- Update locale koKR
04:02.25Repo10little-wigs: 037destiny * r436 / (38 files in 6 directories): koKR Update
04:03.32Repo10libbabble-boss-3-0: 037destiny * r124 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: koKR Update(fix Maiden of Grief)
04:05.20Zhinjiohttp://geo.trippy.org/gallery2/d/2545-1/extractor_herblist.jpg
04:05.28ZhinjioTorhal: http://geo.trippy.org/gallery2/d/2545-1/extractor_herblist.jpg
04:05.32Zhinjiothats the new thing I'm working on
04:05.38Zhinjio<3 qtip
04:07.25Repo10rs_class-colors: 03Stupid_Inc * r35 / (5 files in 3 directories): WoW 3.0 compatibility
04:25.45ckknightlooks cool, Zhinjio
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05:02.45AckisLGGED IN DURING WOW'S 4th ANNIVERSARY WHEE
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05:09.16ckknightgz
05:10.21doom0rthat's messed up
05:10.29doom0reast coasters just got it
05:10.34doom0rbut central doesn't unless you log in
05:10.43ckknight?
05:10.49doom0r4th anniversary
05:10.57doom0reast coasters get it logged in right now
05:11.06doom0rbut central time isn't 12 yet so you have to log out and back in
05:11.26pompyyay im east coast
05:12.35doom0rservers east coast tiem btw
05:12.43doom0rso it seems if you're in the servers local time you get it while on
05:12.48doom0rbut before that you have to log out if not
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05:14.23Lywellynwhat day was that again?
05:14.29Lywellyntoday?
05:15.00sacarasc23rd
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05:22.44fewynsigh
05:22.51fewynone of my addons died and when i login i auto dc
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05:51.49TorhalZhinjio: Looks nice :)
05:56.53AntiarcProtip
05:56.58AntiarcWhen looting a boss with a badge
05:57.00Antiarc<PROTECTED>
05:57.06AntiarcInstant 500 achievement :V
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05:58.40Ackislol can you do that for 1000 also?
06:00.44Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r103 / (4 files in 1 directory): GatherMate_Data: Weekly update
06:00.46Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro 04v1.13 * r104 : GatherMate_Data: weekly update
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06:02.47AntiarcSure
06:04.48ArrowmasterAntiarc: rofl?
06:04.57AntiarcThe achievement tracks number of clicks on badges
06:05.00AntiarcRather than badges looted
06:09.34Antiarc:O :O :O
06:09.34Antiarc<PROTECTED>
06:09.43Ackiswhy do I have a woody just reading that link?
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06:39.33harldunno. you shouldn't. it's gross.
06:40.25harland the same goes for my druid's stealth being removed sometimes. it's gross and it shouldn't be that way.
06:43.41ckknightfunny song: Science for Girls - Australia
06:49.26Repo10lil-sparkys-workshop: 03lilsparky * r45 / (4 files in 1 directory): LilSparkysWorkshop:
06:49.28Repo-reworked interactions with all tradeskill uis
06:49.28Repo-removed tradeksillinfo ui support
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06:55.08Repo10lil-sparkys-workshop: 03lilsparky 04v0.80 * r46 : Tagging as v0.80
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07:00.39doom0ris there a way to make a rightclick in a macro act as though you have no target no matter what?
07:01.05doom0ri.e. cast by click on selected frame/unit
07:01.16doom0rsuch as when you have no target and click a heal
07:01.49doom0ror to reword, make right clicking a macro always light up the cursor
07:03.18ArrowmasterAntiarc: my friend just got the 1000 emblems of heroism achievement after i told him how, his guild is flipping lol
07:18.23theoddone33how do you do that?
07:18.36Xinhuanclick the badge before it enters your bags
07:18.39Xinhuanachievement counts clicks
07:18.43theoddone33ahaha
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07:20.21theoddone33someone in guild had the 25 achivement
07:20.24theoddone33with only looting 8
07:20.28theoddone33and we were all confused how
07:20.34theoddone33(including him)
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07:33.54doom0ram i missing something, or is that third line completely uselss, since you wouldn't get there after the second one is true: http://www.wowwiki.com/Useful_macros_for_paladins#Target_of_Target_healing
07:34.10Xinhuandoom0r: [target=none]
07:34.17doom0rXinhuan: thanks
07:34.21doom0rmissed that
07:35.52doom0roh that works nice :P
07:36.06doom0rfreedom and loh macros ftw
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07:40.33Axodiousi macro all my heals to do that :(
07:40.38Axodiouslazy healing ftw
07:41.01Axodiousworked wonders on rage! lol
07:42.08doom0rto do what?
07:42.13Axodioustot heal
07:42.28doom0rthat macro is broke i believe
07:42.56doom0rif i read it correctly, it checks for a friendly target in the third line, which would never happen since the second would be true first
07:44.27Axodious/cast [nomod,noharm] Healing Wave; [nomod,noharm,target=targettarget] Healing Wave; [mod:alt,target=player] Healing Wave
07:44.32Axodiousthats what i use
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07:59.53doom0r...
08:00.05doom0ri just leveled and didn't get the yellow awesomeness
08:00.15Repo10handynotes: 03Xinhuan * r195 HandyNotes.toc: Update version to 1.1.3
08:01.03Repo10handynotes: 03Xinhuan 04v1.1.3 * r196 :
08:01.04RepoTag v1.1.3 for release. Add slash command /hnnew which creates a new note where you are located. Continent-enabled notes will now show on Northrend.
08:02.42XinhuanWow's 4th Anniversay achievement
08:02.52Xinhuanjust log in during today's 24 hour period lol
08:03.48theoddone33it's hard to get
08:04.07theoddone33my 4 person heroic group just 100% disbanded as everyone relogged to get it
08:08.36Repo10libfilter-1-0: 03Nayala * r37 adapters/Combuctor_LibFilter/Combuctor_LibFilter.lua:
08:08.37RepoCombuctor_LibFilter: No longer error out if Combuctor is not installed. Fixes ticket LibFilter-1.0-1
08:11.18Xinhuandon't have to relog
08:11.26Xinhuanjust changing zones, via causing a loading screen
08:11.30Xinhuanis sufficient to gain the achievement
08:11.31theoddone33nice
08:12.27NayalaI wonder if there is anything else happening as part of the anniversary.
08:14.38doom0rprob fireworks
08:14.54doom0rrandom servers getting gm's doing crazy stuff
08:15.02NayalaOh a bear in game email.
08:15.23Nayalapet, not mount.
08:15.39doom0rboa too
08:15.46doom0rdon't have to log each char if you don't want
08:16.13NayalaAwesome can check that my BoA filter works now :)
08:16.33Adirelle~seen Zhinjio
08:16.41purlzhinjio is currently on #wowace #curseforge. Has said a total of 144 messages. Is idling for 4h 11m 3s, last said: '<3 qtip'.
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08:26.43Nayala_Wierd getting dc'ed with an assertion when I do a /chatwho... wonder which addon is triggering the bad code path.
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08:44.04Nayala_I love doing "binary" searchs when I can just skip them... looks like it only happens when Chatter in installed. Again the crash is in Blizzard's code
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09:01.16KriLL3anyone knows of a plugin for broker/fubar that shows a dropdown/tooltip with your tokens? (heroic, pvp etc)
09:03.49LukianKriLL3, all played.
09:04.48KriLL3Lukian: that doesn't seem to be what I'm looking for
09:05.05LukianKriLL3, it does what you asked
09:05.25KriLL3looks more like a stat thingy for people with more than one char
09:05.26Lukianfor multiple characters too :p
09:05.47KriLL3and I doubt it has the new tokens
09:06.15KriLL3Emblem of Heroism, Dalaran Cooking Award, Stone Keeper's Shard etc
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09:11.38sylvanaaryeah
09:12.50sylvanaarcrashing the client from a script is win
09:13.01LukianKriLL3, why not have them display in your backpack near the money count?
09:13.54Nayala_Especially since the crash seems to be in some c string manipulations and related to overwritting the end of the string. (Classic buffer overflow.)
09:14.32sylvanaaryep
09:15.08sylvanaar*cough* loadstring
09:16.13asmodaiKriLL3 / Lukian : I have one installed that shows how much of a said item I have if I hover on it.
09:16.19sylvanaarso you ahve a stack?
09:16.28asmodaiBut it's nicer if you have one that keeps track.
09:16.38KriLL3Lukian: I don't use the default bags
09:16.50KriLL3asmodai: ?
09:16.54LukianKriLL3, ask the author of whichever bag addon you use to support it :p
09:17.14KriLL3I dunno who makes combuctor
09:17.22Nayala~seen Tuller
09:17.24purltuller <n=muffins@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 4d 7h 10m 14s ago, saying: 'I've had that happen a few timesish'.
09:19.37Nayala~seen Nargiddley
09:19.38purlnargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 18d 2h 12m 34s ago, saying: 'I was never able to reproduce that one'.
09:19.59asmodaiKriLL3: oh, e.g. honor hold token, you hover over the item in the bag, it says for all alts how many you have in total, including your bank (and gbank)
09:20.43KriLL3that's not possible since it's not an item
09:21.19NayalaThey still are technically items just in an invisible bag (bag -3 if I recall)
09:21.22asmodaiKriLL3: Ah, more the currency ones.
09:21.31KriLL3they're called tokens
09:21.57KriLL3Nayala: I got the same addon showing # of items on alts etc, it doesn't say anything about the tokens
09:22.32NayalaYeah the addon would have to know about that bag number and scan it to include it.
09:22.47sylvanaarmeta-bags
09:22.55NayalaIt only includes tokens and not points.
09:23.44NayalaWow, never heard of metabags before. Thought I had been following most of the bag addons.
09:24.13sylvanaari made it up
09:25.15sylvanaaras in "bags which dont really exist"
09:25.16NayalaHeh. Got me. Before I started LibFilter went and searched all of the ones I could, and tried a good chunk of them.
09:26.19asmodaiCool, it's the extradimensional bag from D&D :)
09:26.44NayalaBetter not take it to outlands then..
09:27.03Nayala...wouldn't want to be anywhere near the portal when you did.
09:27.17asmodaiIsn't Outlands just another world that's been blasted to pieces?
09:27.49NayalaYes, but you get there through a portal.... and you know how magic bags tend to be about stuff like that.
09:28.02asmodaiHeh.
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09:35.51doom0r|awayyou mean Luggage
09:36.01doom0rand i don't mean the addon
09:36.23doom0rwaits 4 years for anyone to get the reference
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09:36.51KriLL3doom0r: isn't that from a drizzt book?
09:36.58doom0rnope
09:37.08LywellynAnyone know an addon that adds an item's icon to its tooltip?
09:38.20KriLL3http://www.threepanelsoul.com/ XD
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09:38.50KriLL3DK + Inscription/Herbalism = Killing the mood
09:40.06asmodaiLuggage? That's Rincewind's?
09:40.47doom0r;x
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09:49.16ArrowmasterGamon yells: SCOURGE!!!! Stand back! Gamon will save us all!
09:49.17Arrowmasterrofl
09:53.31ckknightI had a teacher in 8th grade that always refered to herself in the third person
09:53.39KriLL3...
09:53.43ckknightso it's uncommon, but not unheard of
09:53.47asmodaiThe royal pronoun!
09:54.05KriLL3it's a good indicator of insanity
09:54.23ckknightmeh
09:54.29ckknightto each their own
09:54.49doom0ractually it shows a strong grasp of how events are interwoven
09:55.05Arrowmaster...
09:55.36doom0rviewing things always from a different perspective without yourself being the focus can be a profound tool
09:55.59doom0rsome people are just crazy though
09:56.09doom0r:)
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09:58.00doom0ri agree repo
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10:12.29Arrowmasterthis guy is getting annoying, want his project moved to curseforge now
10:13.45Groktarpounces from the shadows
10:14.15Aiianeaw... baby bear pet is cayoot
10:14.42doom0rya, first time anyone out of china can get one
10:14.59doom0rthey had bear pets for some promo
10:15.58Aiianecollectors edition had pandas
10:16.04Aiiane(original wow collectors)
10:16.19Aiianeit was one of the 4 choices
10:16.52LywellynAnyone here Alliance side and past the Wrathgate scene?
10:16.55doom0rtrue
10:17.06doom0rthe regular white model was an icoke promo though
10:17.27doom0rLywellyn: yes
10:17.45asmodaiLywellyn: some of my guildies
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10:22.04Sagiv_Saffican sum1 instruct me in the propper way to make a table (using AceConfig-3.0) that type='select' recognizes?
10:22.14Sagiv_Saffiright now im just getting a blank dropdown box =p
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10:24.28EthanCentauraiplace your current code in a pastey, link it here and I'll have a look
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10:34.15EthanCentauraiBobblybook, please add a message to your commits
10:35.32Arrowmasterhes not in here
10:35.57EthanCentauraiban him then please, as he is doing what viktor3b did
10:36.30EthanCentauraiat least it looks like it
10:36.45Arrowmasterthats his own project
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10:39.00Grumwould anyone know a way in questhelper to teach it *NOT* to take bloody flightpoints if you can fly your flying mount?
10:39.01EthanCentauraieven so it would be nice to know what he's doing :/
10:40.20Sagiv_SaffiEthanCentaurai: http://wowace.pastey.net/102568
10:40.55doom0rGrum: iirc, that's on zorba's todo list posted on the project page
10:41.07Grumits so bloody annoying
10:41.15doom0ro no
10:41.18doom0rit's in /qh donate
10:41.25Grum.....
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10:41.40nevcairielQH is broken on so many levels
10:41.47nevcairieland i dont really see it getting fixes
10:41.55Grumit also works in some wat
10:41.58Grum*way
10:42.00doom0r?
10:42.09doom0rworks fine for me
10:43.07doom0rpathing for obstacles and flying mounts is of the 3 main todos
10:43.21ramoztry TourGuide?
10:43.28doom0rdifferent thing
10:43.32Grumnot even remotely comparable
10:43.43Grumone is a leveling tool the other one is a quest-helper
10:44.10ramozok
10:44.11nevcairielLightHeaded + TomTom + my brain >>> QH
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10:44.38Xinhuanzygor's guide + mindless following > all ;p
10:44.50nevcairielfull guides are ftw
10:44.54nevcairieler
10:44.55nevcairielftl
10:45.00nevcairielneeds coffee
10:45.01Xinhuanits a complete step 1 to step 2000 guide ;p
10:45.06Xinhuangood for alts
10:45.20nevcairielonce i've done a zone on my main, i have a full guide in my head
10:45.52doom0reveryquest + questhelper imo
10:46.47EthanCentauraiSagiv_Saffi: it's because you've done it wrong. you want something more like this: http://wowace.pastey.net/102569
10:46.54MikkBollox. I've done Duskwood umpteen times and I have yet to find the optimal sequence
10:46.58nevcairielQH has so many flaws that it isnt even useful anymore. If you visit some quest that gives you follow ups, it reschedules your whole route
10:46.59Mikk~lart nevcairiel
10:46.59purlwhips out a shotgun, trudges over to nevcairiel, and goes postal
10:47.10doom0rMikk: that's because there is none
10:47.18nevcairielduskwood is just dumb
10:47.18doom0rthe zone sends you back and forth across it
10:47.18MikkThat'd explain it
10:47.23nevcairielold zones all are, kind of
10:47.30nevcairielits easy in BC, and even easier in Wrath
10:47.49nevcairielI did duskwood with QH just to try it out
10:47.52doom0rworse than duskwood is ashenvale
10:47.52nevcairielits the same shit
10:47.58nevcairielit doesnt know any shit about the quest order
10:48.02nevcairielso it still sends you back and forth
10:48.13Gngskhow do I get the battlefield minimap to show?
10:48.17doom0rdoesn't mean qh doesn't do exactly what it should
10:48.26doom0rmanaging hubs is up to you
10:48.33nevcairielall QH knows is where you do a quest and where you hand it in
10:48.37EthanCentauraiGngsk: Shift-M is the default binding
10:48.39doom0rGngsk: shift+m
10:48.46nevcairielit would be much more helpful if it actually knew about quest follow ups etc
10:48.47Gngskthx guys
10:48.52Grumso QH helps getting the walking to a minimum
10:48.55nevcairielbut it doesnt, so its pointless to use, imho
10:48.56Mikkon an unrelated note.... wouldn't it be kinda nifty to use the @no-lib-strip@ stuff to create hard deps in tocs?
10:49.01Grumnevcairiel: that matrix suddenly becomes WAY more complicated
10:49.06chexsum_its not pointless
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10:49.10doom0rnevcairiel: why? it provides pathing
10:49.17doom0rthat's extremely helpful
10:49.19nevcairieldoom0r: my brain provides pathing, tyvm
10:49.25chexsum_it tells you were to go and does it well
10:49.33doom0ryou've done wrath before doing wrath?
10:49.51chexsum_tooltips help you also
10:50.10chexsum_and its got zone-wide tracking
10:50.21doom0ri wasn't in beta, so having everything for wrath short of about 5 quests so far has been very nice
10:50.26chexsum_theyre all helpful
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10:51.04nevcairielGrum: only in ideal cases QH really gets the "minimum" route, sometimes you can really go shorter if you know about quest order and follow ups
10:51.08Arrowmasterthe questhelper database is created from data gathered from other people doing quests with questhelper, and not reviewed so its got fuck tons of incorrect shit
10:51.15chexsum_its not good if you want a power levelling guide
10:51.31Grumnevcairiel: from knowing nothing to what QH gives you is a massive upgrade
10:51.54Grumi agree it can be improved by giving it knowledge about chains
10:52.08Arrowmasteri loged onto my 30 alt and QH told me to walk 10 yrd and get shreader page 1
10:52.11Grumbut that doesnt take away that it is more effective than anything else atm for the job
10:52.15Arrowmaster10 yards away was the mail box
10:52.26Grumwas it in your mail? :p
10:52.29Arrowmasterno
10:52.30Grumnow that would have been epic
10:52.36doom0rlol
10:52.51Codayus_True, but it *IS* good if you get a quest to kill some snow moose, or whatever, and you have no idea where the hell they are.  YOu could check wowhead, wander randomly, or use QH (or similar).
10:53.07Arrowmasteror use lightheaded
10:53.10nevcairielI just use LightHeaded for quests i truely dont find
10:53.17Codayus_That too.
10:53.33chexsum_i havent checked wowhead/etc since installing qh
10:53.48nevcairielI can pretty much scan a quest description and know where to go, especially in wrath that was damn easy
10:53.54dieckhi there. Is there any way to define a Routes route spanning multiple zones? I'd like to set a "daily" quest tour for myself :)
10:54.02Arrowmasterdieck: no
10:54.04nevcairielbut i guess some people cant read and understand that fast
10:54.13Codayus_And light headed does have coords usually.  QH is a little more automated though, hence faster.  I admit, it's minor.
10:54.32dieckArrowmaster: not the answer I was looking for, but thanks nonetheless
10:54.36Arrowmasterive been using QH but mostly ignoring it and hating it
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10:55.10chexsum_qh could use some improvemnts but its not crap
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10:55.16Arrowmastersome?
10:55.19Arrowmastermore like lots
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10:55.56Grumi think the biggest problem for this kind of think is creating and compacting the database to a size which is usable
10:56.06Grum*thing ><
10:56.07Codayus_Hmm, oh, and having marks - even really vague and inaccurate ones - for where you need to turn in quests is useful too.  *shrug*  Tourguide is vastly more useful for zones which it has a guide for, of course.
10:56.24Grumguide is only usefor for leveling
10:56.32Grumfor just doign quest you have in your log .. its shite
10:56.45Arrowmasteryeah....
10:56.48GrumCartographer_QuestInfo is useful but a lot of manual labour
10:56.55Grumi guess lightheaded isnt any different
10:56.56chexsum_if you want to power level just chain kill green mobs all the way
10:57.16chexsum_quests take more time
10:57.23Grumactually .. just get 4 people in an instance and leave group; tag; group kills it; you raep xp; join group
10:57.35Arrowmasterbut i would much rather have something like QH that didnt suck and used data like tourguide instead of recording everything and not having a human actually check it
10:58.00GrumArrowmaster: still the biggest problem is the database for that
10:58.25Codayus_QH with good human written/checked data would be...impressively nifty.
10:58.26chexsum_thats not allowed
10:58.33doom0rit's not even checking it that is a problem
10:58.34Grumthat's not allowed?
10:58.47Codayus_Grum: And yeah, you'll get banned, like the almost world-first 80 guy...
10:58.50doom0rit's checking multitudes of hits per item/kill
10:59.00Grumoh that; yeah i know
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10:59.28Grumwell i guess anyone can construct the database for this; anyone can also fill it
10:59.32Codayus_Heh, QH's data could be worse.  Shortly after launch I used to try and use thottbot to find quest items; now THAT was a terribly tainted db...
10:59.42chexsum_the most annoying person on our server got server first for deathknight to 80
10:59.50Grumwell all data in QH should be manually checked
10:59.55Grumwhich is a task no-one wants to do
11:00.00Grumand what if a quest changes?
11:00.20ArrowmasterQH currently tracks shit tons of points per quest
11:00.38Grumwhich is good?
11:00.46doom0ryes
11:00.52doom0rprobability
11:00.55Arrowmasternot when one of them is wrong and it happens to be the closest one to you
11:01.20Grumso all have to be manually checked
11:01.27Arrowmasteroh yeah its db has also been tainted with private server data
11:01.41Grumtbh if someone make a mob database
11:01.45Grumand binds questitems to those mobs
11:01.50Grumand locations
11:02.01Grumyou'd be a long way along with something like lightheaded
11:02.27Codayus_To really be good you also need to understand quest chains.
11:02.54Grumand after that how to travel
11:02.55chexsum_youre wanting a power levelling guide
11:03.02chexsum_just kill mobs if thats your goal
11:03.21Grumif you'd have a database of mobs that are used in quests with their location .. mmmmm
11:03.35Codayus_chexsum_: No.  I'm not, so killing mobs isn't my goal.  I'm looking for a guide to do quests.
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11:03.55Codayus_Or a mod to help with quests.
11:03.56Yasuohello
11:04.03chexsum_questhelper
11:04.15Yasuois tehre a flypoint-addon working together with cartographer 3, showing me the flypoints?
11:04.28Codayus_Hence why I'm using QuestHelper, and discussing why it's not great at it.
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11:06.48GrumYasuo: try handynotes + handynotes_flightpoints
11:06.58Grumnot sure how well it works but it should :P
11:07.02doom0rflightmasters i believe
11:10.45chexsum_full servers suck :(
11:10.53chexsum_takes an hour to log in
11:11.13Grumhow long is the queue?
11:11.18chexsum_500 now
11:11.39chexsum_ive seen it at 1800
11:12.05Grumaiaiia
11:12.11Grumalready a free transfer going of your server?
11:12.19Sagiv_Saffiwould any1 know how to check the faction standing of the target your targeting to u (say you were exaulted with frostwolf and targeting someone from frostwolf) how would u tell?
11:12.25chexsum_yeah but ive been there since it started
11:12.56chexsum_i like the bg9 pvp too much to move
11:13.24Sagiv_Saffithe only thing i can find on wowwiki is about standingIDs but i dont know how to get the standing id
11:13.37Arrowmasterlook at another addon that does it
11:13.48Arrowmasterlike a durability addon like durabilityfu
11:15.29doom0ri don't think i've seen a single dwarf dk
11:15.50cladhaireMy DK is called "Deathsquid"
11:15.54cladhaireguess which race he is :P
11:16.00doom0r...
11:16.00Fisker-wats a nice damage meter thingy?
11:16.19doom0rrecount, but it has no pause
11:16.32doom0rsomeones keeping swstats alive, but i don't know how well
11:16.47doom0ri don't know the differences between recount and recount2
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11:17.05doom0rand there's always recap(hawksy) (sp?)
11:17.09Fisker-i heard recount eats your babies
11:17.20doom0rit does
11:17.21Fisker-i.e. causes pretty severe lage etc.
11:17.22doom0rbut well
11:17.34Sagiv_SaffiRecount2 is the new updated version of the original Recount but its maintained and kept alive by the same author
11:18.01Sagiv_Saffiso Recount2 = updated
11:18.05doom0rrecount2 is the original author but different addon
11:18.07Sagiv_Saffiall other Recounts = not
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11:19.05Arrowmasteri thought recount was updated for 3.0 and recount2 was still incomplete
11:19.07charonSagiv_Saffi: actually, elsia took over recount maintenace while recount2 is cryect's "next version"
11:19.24charons/ace/ance/
11:19.51doom0rty charon, worded much better
11:20.16Sagiv_Saffiyeah.. and i didnt know elsia was maintaining the 1st one
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11:25.54chexsum_280
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11:32.58BrunersAddybot: a decent cooldown tracker?
11:33.20Brunersrem Addybot
11:34.18Serachtanyone know where the head glyph vendors are in wotlk
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11:37.09Serachtnever mind goti t :P
11:37.57doom0rlol according to warcraftrealms, 42% of dk's on ally are human on my server
11:38.10doom0rhuman are rawful
11:38.36TNSehuman have trinket racial, mace and sword specialization, stealth detection, 10% rep bonus
11:38.43TNSehow is that rawful
11:39.27doom0rcause they're retarded looking, the most annoying sounding thing in the game, and the worst dances to boot
11:40.22asmodaignome male dance is not bad? o_O
11:40.36doom0rhuman is worse
11:40.47doom0ri have every char and no hmans
11:40.52doom0rbah
11:41.03doom0ranyways, i need to decide gnome or dwarf for dk
11:41.13doom0ri'm afraid the name i have for dk will get taken sooner or later
11:41.23doom0rblizz won't like it
11:41.30doom0rer
11:41.32doom0rfor dwarf
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11:43.37Yasuomay it be Grid does not like Deathknights?
11:43.51Yasuoit shows full life when they're almost dead :P
11:44.22Repo10accomplishment: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.0.2-release-2-gfdb5aea / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
11:44.22Repofdb5aea: The window will now automatically hide when all of the people in the list have been clicked on.
11:44.24Repo3088da9: Use repo keyword for project version.
11:45.08doom0rYasuo: lol
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11:58.21VonhintenHOME`There any addons to change the scripty font they use in emails and books in game to something more readable?
11:59.09Yasuosince supermacro blocks the job skills - do you know any addons or script commands to run saved macros?
12:01.02Grum<PROTECTED>
12:01.55Grum<Yasuo> may it be Grid does not like Deathknights? <-- no problems with that
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12:02.07Grumonly had problems with GridManabars not hiding their runic crap
12:04.02doom0rum
12:04.04doom0rhttp://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll123/silarune/Disconnected%20from%20Server/4-1.jpg
12:04.36Grumhehe
12:05.10Repo10skinner: 03Jncl 07master * b1.9183.6-1-gcf9fc50 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Skinner: Updated RockConfig skin
12:05.41Repo10skinner: 03Jncl 04b1.9183.7 * f876773 /: [new tag]  Tagging as b1.9183.7
12:07.20stavmar_is numen still working as a totem mod?
12:10.03doom0rhmmm, how about ethhoto for a dk?
12:10.25doom0ror pethhoto
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12:13.39Grumjust call it: dkdk
12:14.52doom0ryou did get the reference did you not?
12:17.09Grumofc not
12:17.48Lukiandkdkgs ? :p
12:19.56ckknightdvda
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12:21.27doom0ri'm thinkin isohoto or itsahoto
12:22.11stavmar_DVDA is teh best band evar!
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12:34.23ckknightstavmar_: truth
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12:40.29doom0rwtf, why does the death runeword have to be too long
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12:42.25doom0rso is doom
12:42.26doom0rcries
12:42.48moppedAnyone here happen to use rawr, or know where I can find help with it? :P
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12:45.04charonmopped: try #eu-druids on quakenet
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12:54.27Matrix110gah some AddOn is sometimes tainting/fucking up my Spellbook but besides Clique I got nothing that obviously affects the Spellbook and it isnt Clique
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13:03.04doom0rMatrix110: micromenufu?
13:03.05Repo10banana-dkp: 03Rabbit * r122 BananaDKP.lua: Fix looting.
13:03.15Matrix110doom0r nope
13:03.20Matrix110I cant test it either
13:03.30Matrix110because it happens only when I need the glyph stuff
13:03.35Matrix110and when i test it works :D
13:03.43theoddone33heroic azjol nerub makes me sad
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13:07.04Serachtdo you guys have any good examples of DK UIs?
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13:25.41Pneumatusheroic azjol nerub achievements are crazy :o
13:26.08Megalonlet them watch? :P
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13:27.41doom0rwhat's more befitting for a dk
13:27.47doom0rwrath exile or infinity
13:30.31Repo10libqtip-1-0: 03Adirelle * r42 LibQTip-1.0/LibQTip-1.0.lua: Fixed ticket #1.
13:30.32RepoEnsure that nobody could add a line before setting the column layout.
13:30.32RepoClear values stored in cell on release.
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13:36.54Adirelleok, so I may be far behind, but is there an updated littlewigs for LK ?
13:37.23winkillereh, someone remembers the macro syntax for toggle? /reset=1 ?
13:38.54SarozWhats SPELL_CAST_START for channelling?
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13:48.46theoddone33we must have done 20 tries on arak'nerub
13:49.21theoddone33anub'arak
13:49.28theoddone33whoever, I can't get these fake words straight
13:49.59Repo10little-wigs: 03tomsommer * r437 Ulduar/Sjonnir_the_Ironshaper.lua: - Fix enable trigger
13:50.00Repo- Fix static shield on heroic
13:50.01Repo- Fix Lightning Ring triggering on boss channel, and not on player application (no more spam)
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13:53.11Zyndrometheoddone33 , gtfo when he starts casting Pound, and move away before spike appears, and he's /yawn :P
13:53.24theoddone33on heroic?
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13:53.35theoddone33we must have had a weak spot or 2 in our group then
13:54.04theoddone33we'd usually die on the 3rd wave of adds
13:55.52theoddone33couldn't keep up with the party wide damage taken from the poisons
13:57.43Mikk*blink*
13:57.46Mikkstop it from casting poisons then
13:58.33theoddone33I countered whenever it was up
13:58.42theoddone33I guess the shaman, rogue, and warrior didn't realize it was interruptable
13:58.55theoddone33and I didn't think to mention it
13:59.09theoddone33you see after 20 attempts at 5am we weren't all in the best spider killing condition
13:59.59Megalon"the shaman"
14:00.04Megalonand you had problems with poison?
14:00.08Megalon:O
14:00.22theoddone33totem was down 100%
14:00.32theoddone33it wasn't fast enough
14:00.51Daemonaramoz i figured out the problem... QuestHelper latest version ...
14:01.05Sarozye
14:01.08Sarozquesthelper is EVIL
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14:02.59theoddone33the shaman was a dps spec and wasn't cleansing the poisons manually I think
14:03.03theoddone33which is annoying but whatever
14:03.12asmodaipoison cleansing totem
14:03.29theoddone33yeah it didn't take it off fast enough, that thing can stack on everyone
14:03.44quiescensyou drop a new one when you need things cleansed
14:03.48quiescensfirst pulse is immediate
14:03.53theoddone33though in retrospect we should have been kicking and earth shocking every spit
14:03.59asmodai<-- level 71 shaman ;)
14:04.01theoddone33ok I don't know this as I don't play a shaman
14:04.12theoddone33with a better group we could do it I'm sure
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14:04.22asmodaitheoddone33: wind shocking if you want to keep threat and mana conservative
14:04.49theoddone33and all in all it wasn't as bad as violet hold
14:08.17theoddone33those are the only 2 heroics we've had trouble with so far
14:08.21theoddone33of the ones we've tried
14:09.13Megalonlast heroic ocolus, 6 wipes on eregos :|
14:09.21Repo10tradeskill-info: 03StingerSoft * r206 / (4 files in 2 directories): TradeskillInfo:
14:09.22Repo- added ruRU translation
14:09.45Megaloneverytime blizzard makes the game a little bit easier, there are so many people who manage to counter that by getting even dumber
14:12.45Brunershehe
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14:13.24BrunersAntiarc: got to say i love hudmap
14:14.23KriLL3Megalon: well some encounters are tricky even if all know it and try their hardest, loken for example
14:14.35KriLL3the healer was lagging a bit, 5~ wipes
14:15.02KriLL3feels like bizz doesn't take delay into account when testing stuff, since they're all near the servers in question, and they're not under heavy load
14:22.16Brunersthey cant really adopt the game for all variations of lag
14:22.50Repo10little-wigs: 037destiny * r438 Dalaran/The_Violet_Hold.lua: Fix issue(The Violet Hold)
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14:36.22Serachthi, is it possibel to filter any mods on the projects page
14:37.11Arrowmastergoto curse.com
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14:39.02MikkSeracht: use the search box
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14:41.02KriLL3Bruners: a bit of leeway in places wouldn't hurt
14:41.26BrunersKriLL3: already is built in
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14:44.28SerachtIs clearfont safe to use
14:44.34Serachtwow says it's out of date
14:44.59KriLL3there are more recent font addons, forgot the name
14:45.59Serachtfontain?
14:46.22Brunershttp://my.curse.com/search/SearchResults.aspx?q=font
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14:47.35Jyggaadoom0r?
14:47.39Serachtgiving me a list doesn't really help because it is just a list. Obviously this isn't the place to ask for opinions
14:47.52Jyggaahave you got any insight on the wintergrasp timer possibilities yet?
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14:48.59Repo10nrt: 03tomsommer * r126 NRT.lua: Ignore Emblems
14:49.21Sarozvharr! :S
14:53.12Sarozbump that to beta plx
14:53.14Sarozsomeone?
14:54.08Repo10heal-points: 03Eridan * r41 / (11 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 10 lines)
14:54.09RepoHealPoints:
14:54.10RepoImproved bonus detection:
14:54.11Arrowmasterby someone you mean vhaarr
14:54.11Repo- Added support for Greater Vitality enchant.
14:54.15Repo- Added support for paladin tier 7 2pc and 4pc set bonuses.
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15:10.50dieckhi! is there any information how the crafting profession links are made up? can you generate them from an addon?
15:11.28Repo10nauticus: 03Drool * r84 / (2 files in 1 directory): - initial tweak of round-trip times for WotLK routes
15:11.29Repo- FIX index mixup between giant turtle and new alliance boats
15:11.51dieckis there any addon that upon entering a city with a trade channel "spams" a "[Jewelcrafting], your mats, your unsolicited donation" message? :)
15:13.56Mikkyou can generate the profession links from an addon yes
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15:20.32ZhinjioG"morning.
15:20.53ZhinjioAdirelle: pong
15:21.32Zhinjioaha! looks like the ticket is fixed.
15:21.46Zhinjiosweet
15:21.57Adirellenotice your code had glitches
15:22.02Zhinjiodid it?
15:22.13Adirellelooks the ticket content
15:24.03Zhinjiogot it
15:24.04Zhinjiook
15:24.34Zhinjiothanks for fixing!
15:25.04Zhinjiowill I need to change my repo location or will you push it to trunk at some point here?
15:25.57Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r1762 TableRegister/loottables.en.lua: - HoS fix
15:29.41Pneumatusis GatherMate_Data scraped from wowdb these days, or wowhead?
15:29.48MikkUhrmmm... am I being retarded or ....     I'm taking an item, sticking it in a bagslot..  Then another item, and look for a free bagslot, end up finding the SAME slot still being free.  GetContainerItemInfo() is still returning nil and unlocked for the first bagslot :S
15:29.51Zhinjiowowhead, I'm almost certain
15:29.56Mikk(All done without delays)
15:30.28MikkIs there somewhere else I should be looking to find out that the bagslot is locked?
15:33.13Pneumatuslol wowdb has crapped it
15:35.07Repo10little-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r439 / (7 files in 5 directories): ruRU update
15:36.53StanzillaPneumatus: wowdb imo
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15:46.38KriLL3wtf, I just got teleported to westfall with a deserter debuff after being killed in a bg...
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15:51.49AdirelleZhinjio: get it as a standalone version to check I didn't break anything
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15:51.58AdirelleI think I'll push a new beta soon
15:52.15ZhinjioAdirelle: roger
15:53.26asmodairoger roger
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15:57.14Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys 04v1.1-beta15 * r207 :  (Message trimmed by 4 lines)
15:57.14RepoTagging as v1.1-beta15
15:57.15phyberstabs LightHeaded
15:57.15Repo- Update deDE and fix Eternium rod mats
15:57.17Repo- Include French translations from lepaperwan
15:57.21Repo- Include WotLK vendor name translations from mika0730
16:06.50Repo10cartographer_quest-info: 03lahow * r80 Core.lua: Cartographer_QuestInfo:
16:06.51Repo- make auto update disabled by default
16:08.53vrakcan anyone recommend a good gathering addon that integrates nicely w/cart3 (+routes) ?
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16:10.38Repo10libcompress: 03galmok * r34 LibCompress.lua: Added 2 forms of encoding/decoding:
16:10.38Repo- Prefix encoding (including mapping)
16:10.39Repo- 7 bit encoding
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16:49.08Lywellynphyber: What's wrong with LH?
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16:49.30Pkekyo|ARGH! just dinged 72 and have no idea where to put these two extra talent points >.<
16:49.41quiescensnowhere!
16:50.15Pkekyo|that's what I've done thus far :p
16:53.11Arrowmasterdont feel bad
16:53.19Arrowmasteri have 5 unspent talent points at 75
16:54.56Repo10trade-filter: 03networkerror * r24 / (2 files in 1 directory): Update filter expressions
16:55.10KriLL3why?
16:55.18Pkekyo|you'd think you'd be able to find something to improve when you got new talent points, but meh :<
16:55.52Pkekyo|and why does EVERYTHING have haste rating on it?
16:56.35Xinhuanhow do u get into wintergrasp keep
16:56.41Xinhuanwe wiped inside and now we can't get back in
16:56.49Xinhuanthe portal outside isn't teleporting us inside
16:57.17Xinhuanbut the portal inside teleports us outside perfectly =.=
16:58.12Megalontake down the door? :x
16:58.19Xinhuanerr we control wintergrasp
16:58.28Xinhuannext battle is in 2.5 hours
16:58.32Megalonah
17:00.18Repo10trade-filter: 03networkerror 04v1.1.25 release * r25 : Tagging as release
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17:09.36Repo10manager: 03Lhooq * r15 Manager/ (2 files in 2 directories):
17:09.37RepoFunc in actionTimer is mandatory, this is the func which call start timer
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17:14.44Repo10trade-filter: 03networkerror * r26 / (3 files in 1 directory): fix embeds and pkgmeta
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17:21.28stavmar_how can i add flight masters on my Mapster?
17:22.42Fisker-err
17:22.52nevcairielinstall HandyNotes and HandyNotes_FlightMasters or so
17:22.58Fisker-is there something funny going on or are the "debuffs" that the drakes give actually advantages?
17:23.01stavmar_like so i can open my map and see them all
17:23.12stavmar_nevcairiel: ty
17:23.17Fisker-or is it because you have to also engage the drakes to pull the boss?
17:23.23nevcairielnot sure it has wotlk data yet, though
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17:27.33AeyanDoesn't
17:27.56Mytosdoesnt what
17:28.21AeyanHandyNotes_FlightMasters doesn't have the WotLK flight points yet.
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17:40.25MegalonFisker-: mhm? more drakes alive, more loots :c
17:41.12thulhmm
17:47.02Repo10trade-filter: 03networkerror 04v1.1 release * r28 : bad embeds and pkgmeta in package
17:47.35Pneumatusshould your target's mana/energy regen be smooth like the player regen?
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17:57.57Repo10cartographer_quest-info: 03lahow * r81 / (2 files in 1 directory): Cartographer_QuestInfo:
17:57.58Repo- make QuestGuru loaded before QuestInfo
17:58.16thulhahaha
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18:01.48Repo10dhud2: 03Arcanefoam * r86 / (2 files in 1 directory): DHUD2:
18:01.49Repo-Fixed bug when power bars reaching a 0 value will hide and don't reappear!
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18:09.00Pneumatushmm, why do i get a feeling things arent going to end well, when im trying to do
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18:28.41harli don't get it. why do elementals remove my stealth like they have an aura or something?
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18:35.56Repo- rename goblin -> crew [chat filter]
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18:53.32Repo10titan-professions: 03Anxarces * r34 / (7 files in 1 directory): TitanProfessions:
18:53.32Repo- Added support for runeforging
18:53.33Repo- Fixed an issue in the German version with cooking not opening with a grand master skill.
18:57.02Repo10professions-book: 03Anxarces * r72 / (5 files in 1 directory): ProfessionsBook:
18:57.03Repo- Fixed coloring for difficulty level (Thanks to Lokmar)
18:57.03Repo- New list of recipe exceptions (Thanks again to Blackdove)
18:59.48Repo10fubar_professionsfu: 03Anxarces * r51 / (6 files in 1 directory): FuBar_ProfessionsFu:
18:59.49Repo- Added support for runeforging
18:59.50Repo- Fixed an issue in the German version with cooking not opening whith a grand master skill.
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19:02.15RepoBelazor: http://www.wowace.com/projects/fubar_professionsfu/. FuBar_ProfessionsFu. Game: WoW. Leader: Anxarces. Updated: 119 seconds ago
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19:04.58KilrooI think I'm about ready to give up on Tzerak...
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19:08.33Pkekyo|why the hell does EVERYTHING have haste rating on it?
19:08.52Kilroobecause you touch yourself at night
19:08.55Kilroono wait.
19:09.01KilrooBecause Tzerak won't show up.
19:09.17Pkekyo|whot he hell is Tzerak?
19:09.41Belazorfelguard in Draenei starting area
19:09.46Kilrooyeah
19:10.09KilrooI've seen the four guys who are supposed to summon him...they stood there for a while and then disappeared.
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19:37.41Belazor@project spellreminder
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19:44.14Brunerscan DK's use maces?
19:44.54Zhinjiodon't think so
19:46.01Stanzillaonly sword /axe
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19:53.00AeyanYes, they can
19:53.07AeyanYou have to go train it from a weapon master, though
19:53.14AeyanStarts at 1
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19:59.07BrunersAeyan: that is a confirm that they can use maces?
20:00.19AeyanYep.
20:00.37Aeyan1h and 2h
20:01.21Brunerswhy do so many people say they cant..
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20:02.04Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r64 / (4 files in 4 directories): -- Endless Mana & Health
20:02.05Repo-- Some runic power potion
20:02.08cubicoolCan Pitbull be configured to show purple borders for Shaman if the target is cursed?
20:02.15cubicoolIt's only Resto that can do it...
20:02.28AeyanBecause they don't start with it
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20:18.39Bruners9% still on two hand hit cap right?
20:20.15Repo10dhud2: 03Arcanefoam * r87 core.lua: DHUD2:
20:20.16Repo-Fixed bug when power bars reaching a 0 value will hide and don't reappear!
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20:29.54Gnarfoz!api Combo
20:29.55lua_botDocumentation for 'GetComboPoints' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetComboPoints
20:30.22Gnarfozhmm
20:30.25Gnarfozthere's another one of those
20:30.41Gnarfozhm no it's just not updated
20:30.51SunTsuToadkiller: The runic power potion, is it Noth's Special Brew or is there another one?
20:31.58ArrowmasterGnarfoz: GetCombatPoints(UnitHasVehicleUI("player") and "vehicle" or "player", "target")
20:33.12GnarfozArrowmaster: sounds good, now I have to hack that into pitbull ;p
20:33.26Arrowmasteralready been done
20:33.49Arrowmasteror atleast dogtags has been updated
20:34.03Gnarfozhm?
20:34.12Gnarfozit's not vehicle aware at all
20:34.33Gnarfozit's aware of the need to query a unit for its combo points instead of just having GetComboPoints()
20:35.04Gnarfozheh, the ComboPoints module even bails out early if not rogue or druid ;)
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20:41.17ZhinjioAdirelle: is there a functional limit to where centering across the whole tooltip will start to fail?
20:41.19syerenSigh.
20:41.22ZhinjioI'm getting some odd behavior
20:41.24syerenwowinterface is timing out :(
20:42.06AdirelleZhinjio: should not, unless blizzard frame starts to bug
20:44.06ZhinjioI changed it so the column layout is done ahead of any addlines
20:44.20Zhinjiohmm, interesting
20:44.51ZhinjioI'm also gonna pull in your latest version before I do any more testing...
20:46.50Zhinjiogah, I fail at that.
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20:58.16Zhinjioyeah, this is weird.
20:58.30Zhinjioit seems like the tooltip is getting into some strange state, and then thereafter the centering isn't right anymore
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21:06.56ZhinjioAdirelle: is there a way to "reset" the column layout?
21:07.21Saroz!seen vhaaar
21:07.26Saroz~seen vhaaar
21:07.30purli haven't seen 'vhaaar', Saroz
21:07.34Zhinjiotwo a's two r's
21:07.40Saroz~seen vhaarr
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21:09.03ZhinjioI think I'm going to have my "hide" also reset the column layout to ... nothing, basically
21:13.51ZhinjioAdirelle: its looking like anything past 8 columns is making it freak out when you try and center across the tooltip (using either method)
21:14.07Zhinjiosorry...
21:14.13Zhinjio9 columns works. 10 columns doesn't
21:14.15Zhinjio10+
21:14.56Zhinjiowell, wait
21:15.00Zhinjiolemme screenie thi
21:15.02Zhinjiothis
21:18.11Zhinjiohmm, just noticed something else wrong. Gonna fix that first in case its breaking other things
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21:22.16KilrooRats. I may have to go back to CowTip over RantTooltip after all.
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21:27.59SunTsuToadkiller: Never mind, looked up the changes myself ;)
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21:35.27ZhinjioAdirelle: 9 columns (working) : http://geo.trippy.org/gallery2/d/2547-1/ex_before.jpg
21:35.40ZhinjioAdirelle: 10 columns (not) : http://geo.trippy.org/gallery2/d/2549-1/ex_after.jpg
21:36.07Zhinjioso it looks like its assigning the cell in the first column, setting the width of column 1, and THEN centering it
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21:51.42AdirelleZhinjio: it looks like the bug I tried to fix
21:51.54Zhinjiohmm
21:51.59Repo10little-wigs: 03tomsommer * r440 Dragonblight/Anub'arak.lua: Correct options
21:52.22Zhinjiowell, I tried to embed your latest version. I'm not sure it worked.
21:52.22Adirellethat was somewhat related to Frame layout failing at handling 0-width columns, i.e. bug in blizzard layout
21:52.29Zhinjionods.
21:52.34Zhinjiook, I'll just deal with it for now
21:52.56Adirelletry /run print(LibStub('LibQTip-1.0'))
21:53.09Adirelleit should display a table string reference and a version number
21:53.22Zhinjio3
21:53.31Zhinjio139C9F70 3
21:53.51Adirellehrm, this is the latest
21:54.39Adirelle(BTW, your tip is pretty "extreme" :))
21:55.00Repo10little-wigs: 03tomsommer * r441 Howling_Fjord/Skadi_the_Ruthless.lua: Fix cooldown announce
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21:55.08Zhinjiowell, yeah
21:55.20Zhinjiogrins.
21:56.03Repo10little-wigs: 03tomsommer * r442 Howling_Fjord/Skadi_the_Ruthless.lua: Adjust cooldown timers (spellduration+cooldown)
21:56.30Fisker-threatens
21:56.37Fisker-with slavery and death
21:57.03Adirelleis this tooltip created by the latest extractor version ?
21:57.12Adirellee.g. could I check it out to test it ?
21:57.38Zhinjioum, I can push this... gimme one second
21:58.01Zhinjiolemme change the embed to get your latest build first, or are you running disembedded?
21:58.08Adirelledisembedded
21:58.24AdirelleI'll probably checkout without externals
21:58.28Zhinjiook, one second lemme push this
21:59.24Repo10extractor: 03Zhinjio * r5 / (3 files in 2 directories): - more herb data
21:59.24Repo- test build for Adirelle
21:59.44Repo10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm * r11 / (18 files in 4 directories):  (Message trimmed by 4 lines)
21:59.45RepoMorgDKP2
21:59.46Repo-WEB: fix for special chars (ie ?& etc)
21:59.47Repo-fixed endraid not updating TT
21:59.51Repo-add DKP changes based on event system
22:00.22Zhinjiook, r5 is packaged
22:05.25Brunersreputation from kills in level 80 instances stop at revered or ?
22:06.51Pneumatuschampioning goes to max exalted
22:08.57Fisker-Some mobs cap though
22:09.04Fisker-If they are excessively easy/farmable
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22:13.04AdirelleZhinjio: I'll take a look, but not right now, my daughter is calling for food
22:15.20Zhinjiono worries. Its a minor aesthetic thing, and I've lots of other stuff to work on.
22:15.25Zhinjiothanks so much for taking a look at it
22:32.58Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Dessa * r1763 Modules/WrathoftheLichKing/wrathofthelichking.lua: fix minor display bug
22:33.41Repo10fu-bar_reagent-fu: 03Ackis * r68 / (4 files in 1 directory):
22:33.42RepoAdd support for Devout Candle, update .pkgmeta, and update ToC to 30000
22:35.19Repo10fu-bar_reagent-fu: 03Ackis 043.00 * r69 : Tagging as 3.00
22:36.08AdirelleZhinjio: you should be aware that GetItemInfo returns nil for item that are not in the client cache db
22:39.18Adirelledamn, the Blizzard API is kinda buggy :(
22:40.08theoddone33can the tank avoid points on anub'arak?
22:40.09theoddone33pounds
22:49.39ZhinjioAdirelle: I'm aware. I have them all in mine now. But I have to add some code in that will force all herbs/ore/etc to cache.
22:49.43Zhinjiohaven't done  that yet
22:50.31Pneumatushas anyone looked very far into the events when you enter/exit vehicles?
22:51.14AdirelleZhinjio: it seems that the texture fontstring aren't properly reset :/
22:55.14Adirellehrm... the colspans are quite buggy, I'll take another look tomorrow
22:56.30waallenIs there a working version of TinyTip for WOTLK around? Exploring alternatives to CowTip
22:58.34gixwaallen: why not use cowtip?
22:59.02gixPneumatus: what about them?
22:59.35Pneumatusgix: for some reason, leaving a vehicle doesn't always seem to fire UNIT_EXITING_VEHICLE
23:00.00waallenNot that it means anything but I've noticed that its memory usage spikes up to 2.7MB when raiding 25man instances
23:00.00Pneumatusim wondering if EXITING is only fired in a certain situation, but EXITED is always fired, or something else
23:00.35Pneumatusas theres ENTERING/ENTERED and EXITING/EXITED
23:02.16gixhm. haven't noticed that yet
23:02.47Pneumatuslike, EXITING doesnt seem to fire when you get thrown off the daily sons of hodir drake
23:03.36Pneumatushmm
23:03.59gixmaybe it only fires for self-induced exiting?
23:04.06Pneumatusthat's possible
23:04.21Pneumatusjust trying to work out how the vehicle UI bar decides to hide if that's the case
23:05.14Pneumatusappears that the VehicleMenuBar doesnt even look at UNIT_EXITING_VEHICLE, only EXITED
23:07.08PneumatusEXITING may well be a graceful exit then, and EXITED will fire regardless
23:08.59Antiarchttp://i35.tinypic.com/344p7qu.jpg
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23:09.07AntiarcSomeone should smack Yoshi for that achievement implementation >_>
23:09.19PrimerAre all assignments of objects done by reference?
23:09.25Antiarcyes
23:09.29Primercool
23:09.53Lysitheahum, is there an addon that can make me a macro for linking items and achievements?
23:10.02Lysitheait's a pain to retype it everytime in trade
23:10.14MegalonAntiarc: click fast can you must!
23:10.31Antiarc<PROTECTED>
23:10.31Antiarc:V
23:12.45spodeWhoa Antiarc. What unitframes are those in the screenshot?
23:13.00Antiarcpitbull
23:13.11spodeRight. Some selfmade layout?
23:13.26spodeSure looks awesome :<
23:13.46Antiarcyeah
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23:14.47theoddone33wow f inally beat that stupid crypt guy
23:17.22HirsuteIn that picture Antiarc posted: Is that a bag addon over on the right?
23:17.24Repo10simple-unit-frames: 03Pneumatus * r81 Basics.lua:
23:17.24Repo- Use DogTag properly, resulting in much more fluid HP/MP updates (Ticket 1)
23:17.25Repo- Fix a bug where exiting a vehicle didn't always reset overlays.
23:17.27Antiarcyes, baggins
23:17.47HirsuteThat's right slick looking.  I might have to check it out.
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23:19.12BrunersAntiarc: what frame is that warrior?
23:19.18Antiarcfocus
23:19.53Brunerswierd placement in that setting :P
23:19.56PrimerDoes pitbull properly handle DKs?
23:20.07Brunersproperly?
23:20.11AntiarcMeh, it's focus
23:20.14HirsuteAntiarc: Is that a cooldown monitor of some sorts in the upper right?
23:20.18PrimerLast I heard, it showed mana for DKs
23:20.21AntiarcThat's buffs
23:20.26AntiarcCooldown monitor is in the middle bottom
23:20.40Hirsute(having a hard time reading it)
23:20.49Primerand the rune thingy that's part of the Blizzard UI didn't exist
23:21.05Fisker-hacker Antiarc
23:21.10AntiarcThe CD monitor is logarithmic
23:21.13AntiarcIt's easier to see in action
23:21.15HirsuteNECB used to catch my mend pet, but no longer does, so I'm looking for one that will show me.
23:21.30Fisker-i just used spamming the right click button :E
23:22.01HirsuteOf course, if I don't mind the dps nerf, I can just leave Viper up and not worry about mana.
23:22.02Antiarcyou can't spam 1000x in one emblem >_>
23:22.12Fisker-no
23:22.24Fisker-get like 30-60
23:24.31theoddone33I usually get 5
23:27.55Megalondoes not work with stone keeper shards
23:28.53AntiarcNope
23:30.32LysitheaAntiarc I did that this morning, almost got reported by some dude in guild cause he wouldnt believe me when I said I didnt get 1k badges
23:31.07Lysitheaalot of wtfs in the gchat
23:31.16Arrowmastermy friend did it in a pug naxx 10 man last night
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23:33.29Lysitheanext time I do 25man wg I'm thinking of leaving the guild for a quickie and then get reinvited or soemthing
23:33.44Lysitheathat dude seemed way to touchy
23:34.12LysitheaIm assuming it works for valourus emblems aswell
23:34.18Lysitheaor whatever they're called
23:34.24theoddone33probably
23:34.29Lysitheahow come it doesn't work for stone kepeers?
23:34.36Brunersis there a expertise cap?
23:36.05Megalon6.5% dodge
23:36.20Megalonparry is different across mobs
23:36.37Antiarcthe stone keeper shard achievement is properly coded, apparently
23:36.47Lysitheaah
23:37.35Megalonyea, perhaps different people made it, as valor/heroism are pve-tokens, and the shards are about pvp
23:37.50BrunersAntiarc: you can run that to get the achivement?
23:38.22gixyes
23:38.24Antiarcrun?
23:38.49Brunerswouldnt that be bannable?
23:39.02Antiarc*shrug*
23:39.10AntiarcAnd yes, the macro gets you the achievement
23:39.16AntiarcSince the achievement is poorly written
23:39.38Antiarceveryone has more towards the achievement than they do badges
23:39.45AntiarcDue to "item is busy"
23:40.43Megalonthe achievement seems to count your tries to retrieve the item
23:40.54Megalonand not when it gets added to you currency tab :C
23:41.32Brunersbut this is still an exploit
23:41.38Brunersthus bannable
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23:42.03gixbannable trying to loot an item?
23:42.52AntiarcThey'll have to ban everyoen that's run a heroic :P
23:43.24Megalonhehe, yea
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23:45.15theoddone33it's so meaningless
23:45.20theoddone33if they ban over that they're retarded
23:45.28theoddone33achievement points are just vanityt
23:45.57Brunersdo we know they are?
23:46.50Antiarcyes
23:46.52AntiarcThey've said as much
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23:50.17gixthough the stone keeper achievements say obtain, badges say loot. afaik you also don't get credits for the daily heroic reward badges but you probably would for the shards
23:51.54AntiarcHeh
23:57.17Codayus_And yeah, Bliz has made it clear they're not currently interested or planning in turning achievment points into currency or offering rewards based on totals.
23:57.50Codayus_Could change, but as it stands, the rewards are the existing mounts, titles, tabards...
23:58.36AntiarcAnd those are based on achievements, not on points
23:59.01Codayus_Exactly.
23:59.54Codayus_Of course, that brings up the question of why have points at all; one gets the feeling they don't have a very solid vision when it comes to achievments.  :)

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