IRC log for #wowace on 20081119

00:00.41KolieDon't think a dcc is going to work.
00:00.43HirsuteIf you can accept DCC file transfers, I've just attempted to send one to you.
00:00.44KolieNAT and all.
00:00.52HirsuteAaah.
00:00.57HirsuteOkay.  Let's see.
00:01.09Koliejennen@curse.com is my email. Pasties are cool too.
00:01.34HirsuteI'd pasty, but I can't copy the text out of that window, that I know of.
00:02.47Grumlol all those bosses in Naxx 10 ...
00:02.55Grumbloody millions of hitpoints :D
00:05.22HirsuteKolie: emailed.
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00:06.01HirsuteOr... here, this will work too: http://home.utah.edu/~dnb5/callstack.JPG
00:07.13HirsuteHeh.  But still two installations being detected.
00:07.19HirsuteMaybe next build.
00:09.04HirsuteHey, I didn't get the thread lock this time, but it didn't detect any addons either.
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00:12.48HirsuteOh, hey, I think I figured something out... Kolie: If both those keys you mentioned were there, it'll detect two installations even if both InstallPath's point to the same place, won't it?
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00:13.38Repo10grind-status: 03Dridzt * r123 embeds.xml: - libs toc(-), embeds.xml(+)
00:15.35Repo10grind-status: 03Dridzt * r124 modules (2 files in 1 directory): - Northrend faction modules
00:16.01Arrowmasterthey removed the menethil auberdine boat right?
00:16.03Pneumatus~wowalert
00:16.04purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
00:16.16SunTsuArrowmaster: Yeah, SW <-> Auberdine
00:17.00Arrowmasterdid they add another boat to menethril?
00:17.12DashkalArrowmaster: Menethil is Theramore and Howling Fjord
00:17.22SunTsuArrowmaster: fjords <-> Menethil
00:17.27Arrowmasterah
00:18.20Grumhehe massive thadius fail :P
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00:23.52Kuja^hah ackis is here just before i want to head to bed, thats timing
00:23.56Kuja^seen my memo?
00:24.10Ackisnot yet
00:24.33Repo10grind-status: 03Dridzt * r125 / (3 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
00:24.34Repo- click handlers
00:24.35Repo- missing lib added to .pkgmeta
00:24.36Repo- Northrend neutral and faction modules added
00:24.40Repo- libs removed from .toc and added to embeds.xml and library load order fixed
00:27.05HirsuteKolie: FYI, it looks like my persistent-two-installs problem was with some registry keys that the CC created, but didn't get removed.  I deleted the CC registry keys entirely and reinstalled, and live was happy.
00:27.17HirsuteThough I still get the thread lock
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00:32.10NivFreakcan you despawn kalecgos and go to bruatlus?
00:32.22Tullernevcairiel: so did people start reporting the possess/vehicle bar stuff for you before you made the actionbarbutton switch?
00:37.01Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1093 ARLFrame.lua: Fix frame strata issue with the scan button.
00:38.49Ackisasked my gf to login after server reset to do a quest that's bugged... she was "too busy" doing fucking nothing
00:40.06HirsuteWho names their son "Nothing"?
00:40.12Hirsute>_>
00:40.15Hirsute<_<
00:41.09Ackishah
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00:41.55Kemayo_clad|sleep: I'm pseudo-around, at times.  I just don't have a WoW subscription now, so I can't test any changes that might need to be made.
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00:58.59GngskXinhuan, ping
01:04.31Parniccan a mod please deal with this guy? http://wow.curse.com/members/unblack/announcements/default.aspx?ProfileMessageID=c0ff74cd-5f0a-45de-be8e-efd4c9e3676c
01:04.47Parniche's posted that message in addition to posting THIS IS A KEYLOGGER on a whole slew of addon pages
01:05.13Parnici reported his post to my mod last night
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01:14.24linear`is there an api for libbars anywhere
01:15.59QuaicheParnic:  That idiot is persisting eh?
01:17.03QuaicheKaelten: You see the link Parnic posted?
01:21.20uliclinear`: not really, I think I just kinda read through the code, also I think libbars has a sort of test/example addon, if not there is on on wowace.com sommeplace, maybe look at antiarc's projects
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01:22.54Groktarlicks you
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01:26.39RaydenUnihow do i prevent shift-scrolling from changing my action bars?
01:28.37Jyggaargh is there some /eject or sth to get out of a vehicle?
01:28.52MegalonRaydenUni: unbinding it from 'prev/next action bar'? :P
01:30.07MegalonJygga: tried /script VehicleExit() ?
01:30.21Jygganope :)
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01:46.21NivFreakso base weapon/defense skills are 400 at 80, correct?
01:47.20ulicshould be
01:47.27ulicwas 350 and it's 5 a level iirc
01:47.37pompyyes 400
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01:48.38NivFreakand why can't I find a conversion for def rating to def skill @80
01:49.23NivFreakhere we go
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01:50.08RaydenUnihow are gems transitioning to lvl80?
01:50.15RaydenUnii have a purple +15sta gem
01:50.16NivFreak2x
01:50.22RaydenUnihow does this compare to lvl 80 gems, green, blue, purple
01:50.23NivFreakthere are 30sta epic gems
01:50.36RaydenUnilike will a green gem replace that purple?
01:51.17NivFreakyep
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01:52.20RaydenUnigems don't really go up with level...
01:52.32RaydenUniso are there just new raw pre-cuts?
01:52.38NivFreakeh?
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01:53.02NivFreakuncommon gems from northrend, are exactly the same stats as the epics from TBC
01:53.15NivFreakthere are perfect cuts from uncommon gems that surpass them
01:53.20NivFreakas well as blues and epics
01:53.49RaydenUniperfect cuts are a new wrath thing?
01:55.11MegalonNivFreak: uncommon gems from northred > epic gems from outland
01:56.05Megalone.g. 14sp, 12str/agi, 24ap on red ones (normals, perfect cuts even better)
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02:01.03NivFreakMegalon: wow, you're right, not sure why that was in my head
02:01.18NivFreakjust stats * 2
02:01.19NivFreakfrom tbc
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02:07.55Repo10guildmanager: 03ciscoh * r10 / (6 files in 2 directories): new file loading
02:08.59Repo10guildmanager: 03ciscoh * r11 Alpha0.0.0001/: test package
02:12.33Repo10guildmanager: 03ciscoh * r12 Alpha0.0.0001a/: re-package
02:14.22Repo10spell-reminder: 03oridan * r182 core.lua: SpellReminder:
02:14.23Repo- fix performance issue
02:19.15Repo10guildmanager: 03ciscoh * r13 Beta0.0.0001/: testing beta pkg
02:21.59Repo10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03next96 * r134 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Zone-3.0 :
02:21.59Repo- "Plaguelands: The Scarlet Enclave" koKR update
02:22.48Repo10guildmanager: 03ciscoh * r14 / (2 files in 2 directories): another test
02:23.05ulicwell at least it's tested :)
02:23.43Repo10guildmanager: 03ciscoh * r15 Alpha0.0.0001c/: test package
02:29.15Repo10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03next96 * r135 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Zone-3.0 :
02:29.15Repo- more koKR update
02:29.35Repo10libtourist-3-0: 03sinepi * r67 LibTourist-3.0.lua:
02:29.36RepoUpdated yard measurements for Scarlet Enclave. Dummy and/or eye-measured, but functioning.
02:35.21XinhuanGngsk: pong
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02:39.56orionshockok, between running wow on linux, HandyNotes, Cart3, and TomTom i have lost the ability to click on the world map to set a tomtom waypoint
02:40.00orionshockany ideas?
02:40.05GnarfozArrowmaster: if you want to mine more (dunno how much more is actually in there), you can find my most recent itemcache.wdb at the same address as yesterday
02:40.31Arrowmasterk
02:40.45Arrowmastertrying to figure out how i broke tourist while trying to update it
02:41.15Gnarfoz;>
02:41.25GnarfozAckis: damn, did you see how many libs DurabilityFu uses while you were touching it for 3.0? :O insane
02:43.53Arrowmastereither the image on my lcd is shaking or i am
02:48.00LoonacyI told you not to take that meth.
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03:12.10Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r45 / (40 files in 3 directories): Update for Zones and Zone fixes
03:12.11RepoMany other fixes and additions.
03:13.12Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.1.6 * r46 : Tagging as 2.1.6
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03:14.45orionshock?
03:14.48KivinIs the 2008/10/16 version of Pitbull on Curse the latest?  it's throwing mega errors for DKs
03:15.06Kivinhealth and power bars wont work
03:15.11orionshockjust got a message from lightheadded clad|sleep, to disable Ace2? performance impact problem?
03:16.52Kivin.\AddOns\PitBull_PowerBar\PowerBar.lua line 342:
03:16.53Kivin<PROTECTED>
03:16.55Repo10gathermate: 03Xinhuan * r595 Constants.lua: Remove wrath comment tags.
03:16.56RepoComment out Constrictor Grass and Deadnettle which drop from other herbs (similar to Swiftthistle).
03:16.57RepoAdd Rich Cobalt/Saronite rare-to-normal node mapping.
03:24.50Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r47 locales/localization.lua: Fix small error on menu.
03:25.25Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r48 RaidTracker.toc: Fix small error on menu.
03:26.19Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.1.7 * r49 : Tagging as 2.1.7
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03:28.41Groktarexplodes near you
03:30.36Grum10m Naxx is cool :D
03:36.17Repo10equivalence-points: 03Pericles * r52 / (7 files in 2 directories): EquivalencePoints:
03:36.17Repo- Consolidated all patch 3.0 stats eg: Spell Dmg & Healing now Spellpower etc.
03:36.18RepoAdded new templates from http://www.lootrank.com/wow/templates.asp
03:36.20RepoSo you should now be able to get most basic values for most specs.
03:37.56Repo10equivalence-points: 03Pericles 04v2.2 * r53 : EquivalencePoints:
03:37.57Repo- Release version 2.2 to Curse.com
03:38.35Mikkurhm wha disable Ace2?
03:38.40Mikkperformance problem?
03:38.50Mikkgroks not
03:39.46Mikk~wowalerts
03:39.47purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
03:39.51Mikk~wowalert
03:39.52purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
03:45.06ZhinjioBuh.
03:45.08TentacledHmm. How often, if that's how it's done, are WoWace projects synced with curseforge? I've tinkered with two libs and hoped for the fixes to come up already...
03:45.49ZhinjioTentacled: did you retag them for beta or release?
03:46.21TentacledI must admit this question puzzles me, as it exceeds my comprehension of the subject.
03:46.45TentacledI apparently need to read up on tagging.
03:46.52ZhinjioI would argue that if thats true, you're probably not supposed to be "tinkering with libs"
03:46.55Zhinjiogrins.
03:47.32TentacledSo far I just committed two (ckknight approved) additions to LibBabble-Zone and LibTourist. What else should I have taken care of?
03:48.01Zhinjiothe difference is that a normal commit only rebuilds as "alpha"
03:48.20Zhinjioalphas are not pushed out, or available tot eh curse client
03:48.42Zhinjios/tot eh/to the/
03:48.51TentacledI assume tagging as beta/release should in most cases be left to the project manager, yes?
03:49.05Zhinjioas a general rule, I would say yes.
03:50.28TentacledSo the route I should now take would probably be asking ckknight to verify my changes and retag, if he so deems appropriate?
03:51.21Zhinjiocorrect
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04:04.01ZhinjioAntiarc: ping
04:06.06Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r45 / (3 files in 3 directories): -- More quest items
04:06.28ArrowmasterTentacled: dont
04:06.35Arrowmastertheres more changes to tourist incoming
04:07.03Lukiangiggles at Tentacled
04:07.41TentacledAll I did was add one zones[...] entry. I can surely re-add it, if it proves necessary, or something.
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04:09.03Lukianyour nickname gives me pretty images!
04:09.21TentacledAt your service, I guess. :)
04:09.37TentacledBut, really, it's your mind giving you those. ;P
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04:16.51ArrowmasterTentacled: did you really need 'type = "Battleground",' in tourist?
04:17.08Tentacledckknight's suggestion.
04:17.19Arrowmasterwell yeah treating it like one
04:17.28Arrowmasterbut actually calling it one is going to break far more things i think
04:18.14TentacledSo I feared, but took ckk's words literally.
04:19.11TentacledThere isn't any type meaning "off-world zone"... :)
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04:27.06Repo10recount2: 03Cryect * r169 / (4 files in 2 directories): Recount2:
04:27.07Repo-Updates for 3.0
04:47.26Repo10guildmanager: 03ciscoh * r16 / (6 files in 2 directories): UTF8 asserted
04:53.46XinhuanTekkub, update HoverTips for glyphs (linked from glpyh interface) gogo
04:54.04Tekkubactually just logged on to poke at that
04:54.11Xinhuanheh
04:55.14Tekkubtoo bad you can't compare item glyphs to what you have
04:55.25Xinhuanbecause...?
04:55.39Tekkubthen you could shop for glyphs like you can items?
04:56.12Xinhuani mean, why can't you pop up 3 hoverlinks for the 3 currently equipped glpyhs
04:56.30TekkubI mean blizzy's API
04:56.36Xinhuanah
04:56.37TekkubI could probably do it by hand, sure
04:56.52Arrowmasterbut then the mod wouldnt be so simple
04:57.03Xinhuanblizz's shoping tooltip comes with 2
04:57.09Xinhuanso showing the 3rd is probably difficult
04:57.49Arrowmasterso which is lower level? halls of lightning or halls of stone?
04:58.35Xinhuanhey arrow, have you actually received any of the blizzcon mounts yet
04:58.46Xinhuanno news in aus of them yet
04:58.51Arrowmasteri got one
04:59.02Xinhuanhmm that's pretty fast
04:59.10Arrowmasterjust got it recently
05:00.06quiescenshmm
05:00.31Arrowmasterso anybody know which is lower level? halls of lightning or halls of stone?
05:00.36quiescenssomething is making questhelper show its tooltip twice
05:00.39quiescensodd
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05:08.08Repo10libtourist-3-0: 03Arrowmaster * r68 LibTourist-3.0.lua:
05:08.09RepoAdd transportation routes and pathing information to Northrend (may not be accurate)
05:08.10RepoRemove Champions' Hall and Hall of Legends
05:08.11RepoChanged zone and instance level ranges to match info found at www.worldofwarcraft.com/info
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05:16.47pompyArrowmaster: Halls of Stone is lower
05:16.51pompy77-79
05:16.55pompyLightning is 80
05:17.12Arrowmasterwell shit
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05:20.02Repo10libtourist-3-0: 03Arrowmaster * r69 LibTourist-3.0.lua:
05:20.03RepoStupid Blizzard map of Northrend showing Halls of Lightning being lower level than Halls of Stone
05:20.32doom0rgrind-status didn't push to the wowace projects page or curse
05:21.53Arrowmasterits already out of the packager status page
05:21.57Arrowmasterso no clue
05:22.55Arrowmasterhmm 500 error trying to manually add it to the queue
05:31.35TorhalToadkiller: pingage
05:36.49AckisI LIKE PENIS
05:37.03TorhalAckis: I thought it was Pen15
05:37.14Ackisuhhh damn cat?
05:37.19TorhalHeh
05:39.53TorhalSleepage.
05:42.55doom0rwts bar addiction freedom potions
05:43.11doom0reverything in the world doesn't need to come in bar form
05:43.54doom0ranyways....
05:44.20Loonacydoom0r:  I disagree.
05:44.34AckisArrowmaster: the packager stuff is a "known" bug
05:44.43doom0rCryect: could you add a little more to the description for Recount2? it's quite confusing vs Recount to many it seems
05:45.14doom0rLoonacy: which?
05:45.25LoonacyEverything should be a bar.
05:45.36doom0rwell, not in wow
05:45.54LoonacyAutobar, Fubar, Bartender, CooldownBars, heck let's turn the minimap into a bar!
05:46.19doom0ri don't see why people make AddonThatDoesSomethingThat20OthersDo-NowInABarMakingItHorrible
05:46.23Ackishahah
05:46.25LoonacyThere could be a mod that turns all the empty space in the screen into a bar, and it could be called BarNone.
05:46.27Ackismy deathknight: DarthAckis
05:46.39doom0rLoonacy: there is a compass plugin for fubar ;x
05:46.41clad|sleepDeathSquid is mine :P
05:47.12doom0rI have two
05:47.20doom0rGnightofdoom and Runedthegame
05:47.30doom0r:P
05:48.06doom0ri'm hessitant to the play the second as I think i'll be dropped to the char screen with a 10days to change name text
05:48.36doom0ralthough some of the stuff that passes is horrible
05:50.30Arrowmasteri wanted to make a female human deathknight with pale skin white hair named claire and only use 2hd swords but the name was taken on the only server i would roll alliance on, and none of you got the reference
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05:56.38doom0rsword of the new world?
05:59.13doom0ro wait
05:59.13doom0ryou like anime don't you
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06:04.03doom0rArrowmaster: Claymore?
06:05.15Arrowmasterwow you got it
06:05.26Arrowmasterbut the manga is so much better
06:05.48doom0rArrowmaster: google winz0rz teh intertubes
06:05.57Arrowmasterpff
06:05.59Arrowmastercheater
06:06.10doom0ralthough it's not directly noticable, i know teh search0rz
06:06.21doom0rand i remember you talking bout anime
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06:07.07doom0ranimesuki has an entire forum for it
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06:46.20RaydenUniwhat do you guys think about this
06:46.31RaydenUniwhen the scourge attacked orgrimmar and stormwind they took it over
06:46.33RaydenUnicompletely
06:46.45doom0rNo, sir. I don't like it.
06:46.53RaydenUnieach faction, on each server has to do northrend dailies to retake it
06:47.01RaydenUniunlocking pieces of the city at a time
06:47.52Xinhuanwhy does that sound like sunwell isle
06:48.07RaydenUnicause that's where i took the dailies idea from
06:48.13RaydenUniyou could instead base it on raid progression
06:48.24RaydenUniafter a % of the server has killed certain raids it goes back
06:48.27RaydenUnibut that's much less inclusive
06:48.46Xinhuansounds like a really bad idea
06:48.51Xinhuanespecially locking out leveling newbies
06:48.54Xinhuanfrom the cities
06:48.57Xinhuanthey need to go to
06:49.14RaydenUnileave some part of the city intact
06:49.23RaydenUnii think it would be worth it
06:49.31Xinhuansee the outcry from the zombie plague
06:49.32RaydenUnigive people a real reason to work towards it
06:49.45RaydenUnithis would almost be less invasive
06:49.46Xinhuanand that was nothing more than a debuff
06:49.49RaydenUniit would only be one city
06:49.55doom0rwork is tiresome
06:50.16RaydenUnipeople were annoyed by the plague because it prevented them from grinding their quests
06:50.24Brunersservers down or (eu)
06:50.33RaydenUniso do it to a city no one cares about
06:50.34RaydenUnidarnassus
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06:50.43RaydenUniTB
06:50.45Xinhuanyou would annoy the level 1-11 nightelfs
06:51.01Xinhuanjust cos you don't care about it doesn't mean others don't
06:51.09RaydenUniso move the quest givers in that area
06:51.10Xinhuanand if it really was darnassus, nobody would even care about doing the dailies
06:51.12LoonacyXinhuan: They can just cyber elsewhere.
06:51.16doom0rmarketing would not agree with the idea
06:51.29RaydenUnithis is why we can't have cool earth changing events in wow
06:51.39RaydenUni:(
06:51.48Gnarfozwe have people like you who come up with random shit
06:51.51Gnarfozthat's even worse
06:51.55Gnarfoz:p
06:51.58RaydenUnirandom?
06:52.05Gnarfozyes
06:52.07RaydenUniarthus claimed he razed orgrimmar and stormwind
06:52.11RaydenUniwhat exactly got razed?
06:52.13Gnarfozwho's arthus
06:52.16RaydenUniarthas
06:52.30Xinhuanhe attempted to raze
06:52.40Xinhuanbut the undead were beaten back 1 day before launch
06:52.44Gnarfozto reiterate: <RaydenUni> what do you guys think about this <-- I just answered that :P
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06:53.28doom0ryou never met arthus? he's a mean cat hangs on the corner of 22nd and king
06:55.00RaydenUnijust seems like the expansion was an opportunity to do some really cool but they didn't
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06:55.56doom0rthey did
06:57.21Loonacy"really cool" by your definition seems to be "really annoying to most people who just want to play the game"
06:57.47RaydenUniso you guys all think blizzard shouldn't have done the zombie stuff?
06:58.00LoonacyI hated the zombie stuff.
06:58.13Xinhuanthey should have made the plague less harmful to lowbies, i.e deal % damage health instead of an absolute amount
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07:02.06Brunersi didnt even notice the zombie stuff
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07:16.41Toadkillerthere should have been more zombies for longer imo
07:17.12Toadkillerand flying bat zombies to get the floaters
07:17.35Brunersi want a bat mount
07:17.50Toadkilleras for quests, please.  you could do The Island quests 24/7 even at the height of it
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07:18.17ToadkillerAnd low level noobs that got squished, l2be 70
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07:19.25Zhinjioanyone else have any issues making the rune bar on pitbull stay put?
07:20.04ToadkillerI have issues right clicking pitbull and selecting "set focus"
07:21.11Brunersthink that is a blizzard bug
07:21.25Brunersthe set focus thing
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07:41.50theoddone33sholazar is a great zone
07:42.32Brunerslol my old realm got free migration off the realm
07:42.43quiescensyou should migrate
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07:43.07Brunersthat will be good for the already 12/1 alliance/horde ratio
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07:46.00quiescensits okay, you won't be there any more
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07:48.19Brunersstill got some characters there
07:48.40quiescensmove all of them
07:51.27doom0rThe Lich King casts Wrath of the Lich King at Doomey.
07:51.27doom0rThe Lich King's Grasp of the Lich King dissipates from Doomey.
07:51.40doom0rthat is awesome
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08:25.09cncfanaticsbah maintenance
08:26.17Elkanoit's wendsday after all
08:26.28cncfanaticsI just hope there's no patch
08:26.35cncfanaticsI got 1.5gig bandwidth left for the rest of the month
08:26.58Brunerswhat is your total?
08:27.11cncfanatics30gig :(
08:28.18Brunersi could have lived with that
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08:28.27Brunersnot that i have any limits here
08:28.53cncfanaticsI can't :p
08:28.57cncfanaticsI download quite a lot
08:29.13doom0rus had nothing
08:29.35cncfanaticsdoom0r: thats why I'm surprised its not just rolling restarts
08:30.19Brunersim guessing they are fixing stuff server side
08:30.29doom0rwould be my thoughts too
08:30.40Brunersmobs not respawning correctly etc
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08:36.53Brunersanyone fancy telling me what this guy really wants, two first comments ? http://my.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/imptrack.aspx
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08:40.20orionshockanyone using TomTom and Cart3 and not being able to set waypoints with the cart3 world map via ctl right click?
08:42.56ElkanoBruners, seems like he wants to call your makro from his normal shoot rotation makro via click; but your makro would then always change the tracking type so he wants you to use a cast sequence that resets on target change in order to only cast the tracking once
08:43.05Elkanoat least taht's how I understood it
08:43.50Elkanobut I can't tell if what he suggests would work
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08:48.58LukianElkano, there's at least 3 addons which automatically change tracking, I'm sure one of them will work for him? :p
08:49.25BrunersLukian: this is not automatic changing, its a macro
08:50.14Lukiantrue, but he wants it automated, whether or not he'd prefer it via a macro, is a good point though
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08:51.40LukianElkano, anyway yeah, he appears to want a macro with "/castsequence *mobtypetrackingspellhere*, null"
08:52.04Lukianwith reset=target :/
08:52.07Lukianoops ^_^
08:52.33Lukianyou could perhaps make it versatile too
08:52.47Lukian<PROTECTED>
08:53.26Lukian"null" ends a castsequence until the conditional is met
08:53.54Brunersbut cant he just make a macro that clicks my macro in a sequence then ?
08:54.37LukianBruners, no you need /castsequence target=reset changetrackingtype, null
08:54.55Lukianotherwise his macro constantly changes the tracking type (setting the same one over and over
08:55.07Lukianunless you can use ! with tracking types?
08:55.28Lukian<PROTECTED>
08:56.19LukianI'm also curious how he expects your macro to function in combat, because you can't edit a macro while flagged?
08:57.08Brunersnope
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09:05.30asmodaimorning cladhaire
09:05.36cladhairemorning
09:05.43cladhairetho I've been up for 4 hours :P
09:06.00asmodaiHow am I supposed to know? :P
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09:35.41BrunersLukian, Elkano: that , null does what ?
09:36.10Elkanodon't ask me, never did macros
09:37.43LukianI just said
09:38.03Lukianit stops the castsequence macro from looping until the conditional is met
09:38.04Brunerswhat will it do in a /cast ?
09:38.09Lukiannothing
09:38.19Brunersso it doesnt matter if its there or not?
09:39.15Lukianit'll do nothing in a /cast
09:39.31Lukiansee above for what it'll do in a /castsequence
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09:46.14LukianBruners, understand or would you like a more detailed explanation perhaps?
09:46.57BrunersLukian: think i got it, just trying write the addon so that you can set it to /cast or sequence
09:47.26BrunersLukian: just that it will require some more code to add the , null part if its a sequence or not
09:47.42LukianBruners, alrighty, don't spend too much time on it though, as it has limited use in combat (which is probably his intention?)
09:48.02BrunersLukian: im guessing that is what he is trying :P
09:48.09Lukianit'll still set the tracking type, but not very efficiently :)
09:50.18evlAny addon out there that can assist in profession leveling?
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09:59.24asmodaiany of you happen to watch Fringe? ;)
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10:05.04Brunersaww crap not up untill 1300
10:09.10asmodai?
10:09.16asmodaithe servers?
10:09.29asmodaiah
10:10.52cncfanatics~wowalert
10:10.53purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
10:11.03cncfanaticswhat a "surprise"
10:12.16asmodaicncfanatics: is it? :P
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10:15.49cncfanaticsasmodai: sarcastic comment is sarcastic ^^
10:16.56asmodaioh noes!
10:18.27Primerhehe
10:18.40Primeryou see that item that stacks in lots of 2147483648?
10:19.16Primersome reward from a pvp daily
10:20.44doom0rgold?
10:21.01doom0r;x
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10:22.09asmodai:|
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10:52.33Brunershow does itemprice-1.1 work really?
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10:54.55doom0rit's one big ass string
10:55.06Brunersi can see that
10:56.08Brunersbut i dont understand how it can get itemprice out of that string
10:56.09doom0rthe magics at the end
10:56.51doom0rjust index the position in the string
10:56.54KriLL3he said it was magic
10:57.17doom0r"just index the position in the string"
10:57.28doom0ritems have set numbers
10:57.32doom0rso you have a range
10:57.44doom0ryou just refrence the position matching your item #
10:57.52Elkanoby the itemid you can get to the byte index
10:57.58doom0rthen you use a scheme to break it down
10:58.07doom0rarrow said 4 bytes iirc
10:58.18Elkanoiirc it used to be 3
10:58.46doom0rreturn a * 16777216 + b * 65536 + c * 256 + d
11:00.24asmodaiDamn you extended downtime!
11:01.12asmodaiwotlk mounts, nice: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?page=824
11:07.23Brunerssucks to level up to 70 get epic riding skill for 5000 and not be able to use it untill 77 :P
11:07.40doom0rsome jag got time-lost right after hitting 80 on this server
11:08.11Brunerstime-lost ?
11:08.38smcnprotodrake from rare spawn in storm peaks i think
11:08.39doom0rya, look at asmodai's link
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11:08.53smcnor just a regular drake
11:10.02SunTsuBruners: Just don't buy riding(300) immediately
11:10.59BrunersSunTsu: i already did on my DK
11:11.10trhbtw: is there any (fast) way to get from northrend to the outlands? (without being bound in shattrath, or having dalaran)
11:12.18Tentacledwarlock summon
11:12.30trhok... :(
11:12.37Tentacledor BG summon to Shatt
11:12.48Tentacledif you're fine with the deserter debuff
11:13.05Xinhuanpay a mage
11:13.38asmodaitrh: sure
11:13.45asmodaitrh: Dalaran -> gate to Shattrath
11:13.50trhyea... ok.. so only with help of others ;) - got it ;)
11:13.54asmodaiI mean, jesus, Dalaran has gates everywhere
11:14.16trhnot 75 yet
11:14.41Xinhuanshatt doesn't have gates to dalaran
11:14.43Xinhuanhow sucky
11:15.13SunTsuXinhuan: As usual
11:16.49asmodaitrh: I got summoned to Dalaran at 66 ;)
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11:18.24Tentacledpf, I got summoned to Shatt at 50 ;P  on my banker, too ;)
11:19.01SunTsuBruners: What does the DK mount look like?
11:20.14pompyits just like attunmens mount but with a white glow on the feet
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11:20.59SunTsupompy: I was talking about the flying one
11:21.20SunTsupompy: I don't think Bruners payed 5k gold for the ground mount ;)
11:21.59SunTsu.o0( If he did those DK NPCs are far more nasty than I thought )
11:22.01asmodaihave you seen a dk's path of frost?
11:22.13asmodailike a shaman's water walking spell
11:22.32asmodaibut with frost under the feet where it touches the water
11:22.36SunTsuasmodai: Not yet, my DK got it yesterday but I didn't have the time to test it
11:22.47asmodaiI feel nerfed as a shaman :(
11:23.02SunTsuasmodai: Yeah, and it can be used while mounted and it counts for the whole group
11:23.13asmodaiI am anticipating some nerfs to dks though, they're quite over powered in some ways
11:24.15BrunersSunTsu: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=48778#.
11:24.47Brunersasmodai: kinda OP if you ask me :P, have done most 3 man quests solo
11:25.22SunTsuBruners: Did so with my feral druid, too
11:25.37SunTsuBruners: I still was talking about the flying mount
11:25.53SunTsuI've seen the ground mount enough while riding it, thanks ;)
11:26.44BrunersSunTsu: i dont know how it looks yet as i dont have it
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11:26.44asmodaiI am still miffed I need glyphs to be able to cast my water walking and water breathing without reagents
11:26.46SunTsuBruners: Hm, a shame, no screenshot at wowhead yet
11:26.52BrunersSunTsu: we already know druids are OP
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11:27.22SunTsuBruners: No, they are not. They are good at certain things and such at others, just like DKs
11:27.33SunTsus/such/suck/
11:28.12cncfanaticsif you have a pool of 10 million people
11:28.12asmodaiearly levels of a druid suck, but later on, man
11:28.24cncfanaticsabout 1/8 will say druids are OP, 1/8 DK's are OP, 1/8 mages are OP, etc
11:28.28cncfanaticsthat means the game is balanced :p
11:29.03Brunersi would say druids and DKs are OP
11:29.19asmodaiI wouldn't consider warriors or mages over powered
11:30.14Brunersin pve i dont care if they are OP, but for those who play pvp it annoying
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11:32.10asmodaiyou'll never get a full 1 on 1 balance I thikn
11:32.12KriLL3anyone knows something about this? I met a DK, killed him dead, or at least he had 1hp and was immune somehow, then in his place a ghoul spawned, I didn't get a kill and he killed me O_o
11:32.14asmodaithink
11:32.29asmodaiKriLL3: it's the 45 ghoul talent of unholy
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11:33.15cncfanaticsKriLL3: talent: when you get powned by KriLL3, you transform into a ghoul so you can proceed to own him back, after that you die
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11:33.54KriLL3errm, the 45 one is "Rage of Rivendare" which is 2% more dmg on targets afflicted with a disease
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11:34.45SunTsuasmodai: 1 on 1 isn't meant to be balanced
11:35.14SunTsuKriLL3: Yeah, unholy DK, like mine ;)
11:35.21cncfanaticsBruners: different classes have different oppinions about who is OP, if you found no class at all OP it would mean you were
11:35.34KriLL3SunTsu: but where is it? what's the duration and other mechanics etc?
11:36.14KriLL3it's impossible to balance 1on1 without making everyone identical
11:36.23Brunerscncfanatics: i have yet to find one class that I can kill a resto pvp druid with
11:36.29cncfanaticsa DK
11:36.38cncfanaticsthey eat HoTs, remember ? :p
11:36.46KriLL3Bruners: ferals can now actually, big crits + long stuns = sad resto
11:36.51cncfanaticsand, they're useless on their own
11:36.56SunTsuKriLL3: 45s, IIRC
11:37.00cncfanaticsresto pvp druids are only relevant in 2v2 or more
11:37.01Brunerscncfanatics: then we fall back to my first statement that DK's are OP :P
11:37.16cncfanatics~facepalm Bruners
11:37.21KriLL3SunTsu: do they die after?
11:37.29cncfanaticsKriLL3: yes
11:37.32KriLL3what is it named?
11:37.37cncfanaticsoh noez THEY CAN BAET RESHTO DROOOODS THEY R OP
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11:38.13Brunersi did some heroics after patch pre wotlk with a feral druid tanking, he had 1200 dps and had the most dammage done total
11:38.15doom0rif you wanna have some fun
11:38.18cncfanaticsshadow of death, KriLL3
11:38.21SunTsuKriLL3: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deathknight= Tier 4, to the utter right, "Shadow of Death"
11:38.21doom0rres a dk that died as a ghoul
11:38.24doom0r;x
11:38.27cncfanaticsBruners: "pre wotlk"
11:38.55KriLL3SunTsu: bah it's really high up, all DKs can have it
11:39.01SunTsudoom0r: What happens if you do that?
11:39.02asmodaiSunTsu: the problem I think is that they keep trying to balance pvp as well, next to pve
11:39.26asmodaiI mean, you cannot use the same game mechanics for both a pve and pvp environment
11:39.32KriLL3a lot of abilities are different in pvp and pve
11:40.15doom0rsome bug with them staying a ghoul and not being able to do anything
11:40.23KriLL3btw OoC is horribly broken atm... I get procs on drinking a potion, tradekills, mounting, etc
11:40.28SunTsuasmodai: Yeah, that's why they try to change game mechanics in PvP like diminishing returns and such
11:40.29KriLL3buffing
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11:41.04asmodaiSunTsu: I seriously wonder if it will work or if it just a major setup to fail
11:41.16SunTsuKriLL3: I don't have it anymore, put all my points into feral for the time being. Maybe again when I'm approaching lvl 80
11:41.31KriLL3it's nice for grinding so I got it atm, dunno if I will at 80
11:41.47KriLL3I got no points in natural shapeshifter etc, I'll need that if I want to pvp again
11:41.50SunTsuasmodai: To me the whole PvP thing is a big fail. Especially the whole PvP/resil gear.
11:42.17KriLL3SunTsu: let me guess, you had really nice PvE gear and wanted to PvP, but sulked when you had to grind S2 gear to survive?
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11:42.30Brunerswithout resilience cloth users would be dead in seconds to heavy melee
11:42.42SunTsuYou meet somebody with better PvP gear and you automatically lose
11:42.46cncfanaticswithout resi anything would be dead in seconds to anything serious :p
11:42.56KriLL3Bruners: clothers can nuke you from a distance though
11:43.06asmodaiSunTsu: *nods*
11:43.07KriLL3SunTsu: gear is important in PvE also
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11:43.20KriLL3you can't tank in greens
11:43.26Brunersyou can with a dk
11:43.29KriLL3true
11:43.31SunTsuKriLL3: Yeah, but it does not have that big an impacts
11:43.31Bruners:)
11:43.36asmodaiSunTsu: but some people really want pvp, but to me pvp feels more like a fps, but with a fantasy cover
11:43.37SunTsu-s
11:43.51asmodaibtw, what's up with all this haste on the new gear?
11:43.56KriLL3I like
11:44.01KriLL3more OoC procs
11:44.16Brunersi think blizzard wants us to use more haste gear
11:45.48KriLL3I just wish feral white dmg was high enough to notice an increase in haste...
11:46.44SunTsuKriLL3: Yeah, same thing I was thinking. "Oh, great, everything now comes with haste. So, where is something I can use?"
11:47.36KriLL3bear white dmg is higher, though it might just be the slower swing...
11:47.43KriLL3dunno how it's dps compares to kitten's
11:48.39Repo10squire: 03Adirelle * r23 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed (and ran) the dataminer to catch more flying mounts.
11:49.55theoddone33sad about wizard oils going away
11:50.16theoddone33oh well
11:50.48KriLL3"Update: The realms will continue to be offline for maintenance until 15:00, Paris time (CET)."
11:50.52KriLL3they took down the forums... wounder why...
11:51.13KriLL3theoddone33: blizz considered em too required, thus no longer a bonus
11:51.21theoddone33yeah
11:51.30theoddone33just like all enchants
11:51.38KriLL3true
11:51.43theoddone33I'm just mad because I can't pad my stats anymore
11:52.00KriLL3it sucks leveling up and getting blues that are better than your purples, if only you managed to get an enchant on em
11:52.09theoddone33yeah
11:52.12theoddone33that's annoying
11:52.34Brunersyou cant enchant your gear anymore ?
11:52.37theoddone33the thing that gets me is that I'm 78 now and my spell power has barely changed in 8 levels
11:52.37KriLL3I've yet to see any enchants on the AH
11:53.08KriLL3Bruners: it's really hard since the enchanters aren't spamming /2 and shoulder/head enchants are available... somewhere... I don't know where
11:53.14theoddone33in fact I have less than before because I went frostfire and I am pretty sure that didn't benefit from soulfrost
11:53.46theoddone33you just can't wizard oil or sharpening stone at 80
11:54.13theoddone33if they're going to take those out,, might as well take out alchemy
11:54.24theoddone33but I'm sure they think these things through somewhere
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11:54.32KriLL3well imo flasks are a bit insane
11:54.45Brunersuhm, oil is enchanting and stones are blacksmithing
11:54.50KriLL3you're more or less required to have a grindteam to raid
11:54.55theoddone33I know
11:55.08Brunersi miss the old sharpening stones :(
11:55.15theoddone33but they're removing an "extra" buff, and their stated reason was because farming costs were prohibitive
11:55.19Brunersgave my hunter extra crit :)
11:55.39theoddone33although everything I hear about the 25 man content seems to indicate that it won't be that hard
11:55.43theoddone33so I guess it doesn't matter
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11:56.26Brunersseeing that sk/nih already have done all content i dont think its that hard
11:56.28KriLL3Bruners: I don't mind em being gone, since they didn't work for ferals =P
11:57.02Pneumatusthey actually said it was an oversight that new stones/oils hadnt been implemented
11:57.19theoddone33I just read a blue post saying they took them out on purpose
11:57.25theoddone33linked from wowhead
11:57.31Repo10fubar_bagfu: 03phyber 07master * v1.1.1-2-gf77313a BagFu.lua: [+1 commit] Use bagType to exclude ammo/inscription bags instead of string compares.
11:57.45KriLL3yeah
11:57.47phyberammo/profession bags!
11:57.47theoddone33they took out the new ones and you can't use the old world ones at 80
11:57.50phyberstabs inscription
11:57.56theoddone33as far as I can tell
11:58.05KriLL3yeah it was on purpose
11:58.26KriLL3they're trying to simplify some things, like rogues buying pre-made poisons etc instead of mats
11:58.43theoddone33yup
11:58.57theoddone33the game gets different with every patch, just gotta adjust
11:59.02Pneumatusdo junkboxes contain more silver now they dont contain poison mats?
11:59.16theoddone33I'm also made because I just made 100 charges of wizard oil not realizing it can't be applied at 80
11:59.24KriLL3lol
11:59.32KriLL3joo r teh winnar!
11:59.45theoddone33I heard they were taking them out but I didn't realize that applied to the old stuff
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12:00.16theoddone33but now I get an extra 40-some spellpower for 100% of 78-80
12:00.21KriLL3but can't you apply it to level 70 weapons still even if you're 70+?
12:00.31theoddone33you can apply it until you're 80, it sounds like
12:00.41theoddone33grr...
12:00.50theoddone33now I'm logging in to check if I can put it on my slobberknocker
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12:01.28theoddone33if I can't that'd be a good argument for me going back in time and not deleting my s2 spellblade
12:01.44sburarrg
12:01.44Pneumatusoils were such a minimal part of raid costs though, compared to food+flasks+pots
12:01.55Pneumatusseems a bit backwards to remove them
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12:01.57sbmaintenance extended - another 2 hours *sigh*
12:01.58theoddone33yeah
12:02.05theoddone33it does seem a bit backwards
12:02.09theoddone33but simpler
12:02.21Pneumatusi'd spend 100g+ a night on flasks/pots/food and like 5g on oil
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12:02.46theoddone33yeah I can't apply them on 71+ weapons
12:02.52theoddone33now I am going to cry myself to sleep
12:03.11quiescensI think the idea was to make poisons/windfury/etc more of a unique thing
12:03.35theoddone33I think they idea was to make it so they don't have to worry if poisons aren't as good as sharpening stones
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12:04.02quiescenseh poisons are much better than the sharpening stones anyway
12:04.08ElkanoXinhuan ping?
12:04.09theoddone33a lot of the stuff I see happening is designed to simplify their jobs
12:04.14Brunerswith poison talents they will be better no matter what you do
12:04.20theoddone33eliminate +heal
12:04.34theoddone33give paladins a use for block value
12:04.38theoddone33etc
12:04.47theoddone33they can itemize stuff more easily
12:05.27theoddone33oh well
12:05.56theoddone33I like to think they put the time they saved on that stuff into creating good raid content
12:06.00theoddone33and good quests/zones
12:06.19theoddone33and more sexy blood elf art for the loading screens
12:06.21theoddone33...
12:06.50doom0ri gotta stop running off the edge into whisper gulch
12:07.49doom0ranways... the wholre thing was about recucing raids from buff our way insanely into it being doable possibly to simply working at content with a level set of buffs and no ridiculous farming
12:08.12doom0rs/recucing/reducing/
12:08.59doom0rpurl, wtf, on a smoke break?
12:09.21XinhuanElkano: pong
12:09.27doom0rhmmm, looks like my server is lagging'
12:09.50Brunerslooks like my server is still down
12:09.55harlmine too
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12:10.14doom0ri meant irc server
12:10.16ElkanoXinhuan, since you did the 3.x update for PerformanceFu, mind checking over it wrt the line 412 bug noted in curse comments?
12:10.27Xinhuanis it the nil bug
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12:15.50Repo10ora2: 03Rabbit * r644 Leader/Invite.lua:
12:15.50RepoLeader/Invite: Don't autoconvert to raid if we're in a 5-man group.
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12:18.21cncfanaticsbah
12:18.27cncfanaticsmaintenance extended for another 2 hours >.>
12:18.52vhaarr~wowalert
12:18.52purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
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12:19.36Repo10squire: 03Adirelle * r24 Core.lua: Reworked event listeners:
12:19.37Repo- disable all listeners but PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED when entering combat, enable them back when leaving combat,
12:19.39Repo- only test mount status on UNIT_AURA for "player",
12:19.43Repo- do not watch movements unless a "movement spell" is avaiable and enabled.
12:21.19doom0ri'm really diggin the story line being in quests on a linear level
12:21.33doom0rnot just random pieces here and there that they attempt to string together
12:21.37Xinhuanwhat events do you actually listen for Adirelle|work
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12:23.28Zeksiesob... EU server maint extended for another 2 hours... again.  :|
12:23.52Xinhuanplay on US ;p
12:24.43Repo10fubar_performancefu: 03Xinhuan * r145 PerformanceFu.lua:
12:24.44RepoWorkaround line 412 nil error by setting initial memory values to 0. Not going to bother finding out why :OnTextUpdate() got called before OnEnable(), particularly for FuBar2Broker users.
12:25.13ZeksieAdirelle|work: i tried checking IsMounted() on unit_aura.. it's won't work at that point.
12:25.20ZeksieXinhuan: with a 450 ping? no...
12:25.28PneumatusEU realms are starting to re-appear if anyone cares
12:25.31Xinhuani play at 450 ping for 4 years zeksie
12:25.35Xinhuanfrom asia
12:25.36SunTsuZeksie: That's good news to me ;) I had too much traffic jam on my way to work and was pondering whether to turn around and have a holiday. But you tell me that i couldn't have played anyway ;)
12:26.10Adirelle|workXinhuan: ZONE_CHANGED, ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA, PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, COMPANION_LEARNED, and maybe SPELLS_CHANGED
12:26.21BrunersXinhuan: why dont you play on asian realms then ?
12:26.32Xinhuanthere aren't any
12:26.39ZeksieSunTsu: yeh. they're saying 1500 CET now.. :|
12:26.48ZeksieXinhuan: sure.. but I have a choice :)
12:26.51Xinhuansingapore/malaysia/indonesia/aus/nz officially plays on US realms
12:26.54Adirelle|workXinhuan: they don't happen that often, but Tekkub is whining "too much updates"
12:27.08Xinhuanhow about you ignore what tekkub says
12:27.12Xinhuanhe's too picky for his own good
12:27.15Adirelle|workI'm considering it too :p
12:27.18cncfanaticshaha
12:27.20cncfanaticsso true
12:28.02Xinhuanthose events can't even possibly happen (well they can but the chances is like near zero) in combat
12:28.15Xinhuanunregistering and reregistering them is more wasting CPU than listening to them
12:28.39Adirelle|workactually I think this is the movement thingy that was causing to much updates, that are useless if you don't have or have disabled movement spells
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12:29.04Xinhuanexplain to me how listening to ZONE_CHANGED, ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA, PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, COMPANION_LEARNED, and maybe SPELLS_CHANGED is of any consequence while in combat :o
12:29.19Adirelle|workyou're right they won't
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12:30.18Xinhuanhe's just too particular about being minimal, to the point there's a lack of options
12:30.25Adirelle|workBTW, I'm trying to get a way to catch IsMounted changes, Zeksie says UNIT_AURA doesn't fit, and as the EU servers are down, I can't test
12:30.50Xinhuanwhy doesn't UNIT_AURA fit?
12:31.10ZeksieAdirelle|work: i tested it a lot. UNIT_AURA fires when you get the buff, but IsMounted() is still nil (when mounting up). thre is not event that fires when IsMounted() changes
12:31.11Adirelle|workdunno, maybe the internal data isn't updated yet
12:31.16Zeksiei was hoping for UNIT_FLAGS or PLAYER_FLAGS etc..
12:31.33Xinhuanah so you're saying there is a race condition between IsMounted() and U_A?
12:31.45Adirelle|worklooks like it is
12:31.51Xinhuanthere is a similar one between ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA and GetRealZoneText() btw
12:31.55Xinhuanits only solvable by using an OnUpdate
12:32.03Zeksiebecause when you mount, IsMounted() is still nil for anything up to half a second more
12:32.21Xinhuanas long as your onupdate is minimal, its fine
12:32.24Zeksiefor ZOMG, I had to put a half second delay in checking..
12:32.32Xinhuanpeople that play with vsync on won't even see any difference
12:32.45Xinhuansince itslikely limited to 60 calls at max per sec
12:32.53Zeksieindeed
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12:33.16Repo10gathermate_sharing: 03kagaro * r71 / (2 files in 1 directory): GatherMate_Sharing: incremented zone index
12:33.24Adirelle|workhrm, the GetRealZoneText() thing sucks
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12:33.42cncfanatics~realmstatus
12:33.43purlwell, realmstatus is a lie
12:33.46cncfanatics...
12:33.51cncfanaticswhat mofo did that ?
12:33.53Adirelle|workand what about ZONE_CHANGED and GetSubZoneText() ?
12:34.04Xinhuanunsure about that
12:34.05doom0rhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Companion
12:34.16Xinhuani use an OnUpdate in both Routes and GatherMate to avoid the race condition
12:34.29Xinhuanbecause i need to know the current zone to switch icons to display
12:34.51Adirelle|workare you always testing it or just when a  ZONE_CHANGED event fired a few time before ?
12:35.03Repo10gathermate_sharing: 03kagaro 04v1.1 * r72 : Tagging as v1.1
12:35.03RepoWrath updates for zone index.
12:37.04Xinhuanits a continuous OnUpdate
12:37.08Xinhuanfires every frame continuously
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12:37.48Adirelle|workgonna take a llok
12:37.49Xinhuani.e OnUpdate = local newzone = GRZT() if oldzone ~= newzone then DoStuff() else oldzone = newzone end
12:37.50Adirelle|worklook*
12:37.59Adirelle|workoh ok
12:38.05Xinhuani mean update oldzone both ways
12:38.11Xinhuani.e OnUpdate = local newzone = GRZT() if oldzone ~= newzone then DoStuff() end oldzone = newzone
12:38.13Xinhuanlike that
12:39.02Adirelle|workwhat thinking of something like : if event_fired then local newzone = GRZT() if oldzone ~= newzone then DoStuff() event_fired = false end oldzone = newzone
12:39.10Xinhuanit may not work
12:39.12Brunersselect(2, UnitClass('player')) will return what for a Death Knight ?
12:39.13Xinhuanbecause of race condition
12:39.26Adirelle|workand setting event_fired to true in
12:39.26ElkanoDEATHKNIGHT I think
12:39.26Xinhuanthe GRZT() return value can change BEFORE the event fires
12:39.30Adirelle|workok
12:39.39Adirelle|workseems I'm going that way too...
12:39.40Xinhuanso your proposed solution would fail
12:40.22XinhuanBruners: "DEATHKNIGHT"
12:40.25Adirelle|workfor both, IsMounted and zones
12:40.39quiescensgzrt~
12:41.00Adirelle|workBTW that allows to easily shutdown lisnters in combat by hide the frame :p
12:41.29Repo10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 * r38 / (2 files in 1 directory): JebusMail:
12:41.30Repo- Fixed Option toggle issues with UI Panel
12:41.30Repo- Added option to split large guild lists into smaller sublists
12:42.00Repo10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 04v3.03c * r39 : JebusMail:
12:42.01Repo- Fixed Option toggle issues with UI Panel
12:42.02Repo- Added option to split large guild lists into smaller sublists
12:42.09Elkanowhat's the dufference between GetZoneText and GetRealZoneText?
12:43.44Xinhuanforgot heh
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12:44.13Elkanoand wrt the race condition, I never noticed a problem in FactionsFu
12:45.04XinhuanP_E_W doesn't have race condition
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12:53.12Repo2d05ba8: Bug fixes and delete unused locale strings.
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12:56.24Adirelle|workhrm... is there some race condition between SetMapToCurrentZone() and the map getters (e.g. GetSubZoneTexT, GetCurrentMapContinent and GetMapInfo) ?
12:57.10Xinhuansetmaptocurrentzone doesn't change GetSubZoneTexT
12:57.43asmodaiany of you run/set up a guild website?
12:57.44Xinhuancaling setmaptocurrentzone() will fire WORLD_MAP_UPDATE
12:57.54Xinhuanyou should respond to WORLD_MAP_UPDATE instead
12:57.58asmodaimy guild's looking at either getting a pro hosting at guildomatic
12:58.02Xinhuanno race conditions there
12:58.11asmodaibut it looks like most of the functionality is easily set up by yourself
12:58.13Xinhuannote that A LOT of addons listen to WORLD_MAP_UPDATE
12:58.24Xinhuanso you should not be calling SMTCZ() a lot
12:58.40SunTsudeDE-servers appear to be up
12:58.43Xinhuanalso do not call SMTCZ() inside WORLD_MAP_UPDATE ;p
12:58.49Xinhuanor you'll end up in an infinite loop
12:58.52Xinhuanand hang your wow
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12:59.12XinhuanGetCurrentMapContinent and GetMapInfo etc will be correct during WORLD_MAP_UPDATE
12:59.17Adirelle|workactually I need a way to catch the continent, zone and subzone the player is in
12:59.40Xinhuanyour best bet then is to use Astrolabe, OR build your own continent/zone mapping table on login
12:59.55Xinhuanroutes and gathermate builds the C/Z mapping table on login
13:00.05Xinhuanyou can see this in constants.lua and data.lua of those addons
13:00.14Adirelle|workthen using the RealZone text to get back to the continent ?
13:00.18Xinhuanhandynotes uses astrolabe (which also does the mapping)
13:00.19Xinhuanyes
13:00.24Xinhuanyou build a reverse table
13:00.33Xinhuanbut you'll want a forward/reverse function as well
13:00.36Zeksieyay we're up..
13:00.42Xinhuanso you can map both ways
13:01.03Xinhuanyou'll also need extra code for Battleground maps + DK starting area map (ScarletEnclave)
13:01.05TentacledAdirelle|work: also note that battlegrounds AND DK starting area are not present in the continent/zone returning functions.
13:01.10Tentacled... :D
13:01.20Adirelle|workwoohoo
13:01.35XinhuanGetCZ basically works for zones with maps
13:01.52Xinhuanfor those BG + DK start area, it returns -1, 0
13:02.02TentacledYou might get hold of the Astrolabe that ships with QuestHelper
13:02.04Adirelle|workare battlegroudns and ScarletEnclave flyable ?
13:02.04Xinhuanso you need GetRealZoneText() instead
13:02.09Xinhuanno
13:02.12Xinhuannot flyable
13:02.24Adirelle|workok, so that solves that particular issue
13:02.36TentacledIt has ready code placing DK area in a "-7777" "virtual" continent.
13:02.48Adirelle|workI use all that stuff for a "IsReallyFlyable" code
13:02.54Xinhuanhandynotes has a specific workaroudn for the DK zone
13:03.04DaemonaAnyone mind having a look at my FrameXML.log at http://ace.pastey.net/102217 and help me figure out which addon makes me force disconnect on trying to login? Only things changed since last successful login are questhelper, autobar, talented_data and gathermate_sharing
13:03.08Xinhuanbecause it is technically on the EK continent from a player perpsective
13:03.12Xinhuanbut it really is in an instance
13:03.15Adirelle|workif IsFlyable returns false, I do not do further tests
13:03.24Xinhuanso it doesn't really have translatable coords
13:03.31Tentacledan instance, or just an off-world zone somewhere?
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13:03.39Xinhuaninstance
13:03.41Xinhuanlike AV
13:03.47TentacledOkay.
13:03.59Xinhuanyou can't reach the ScarletEnclave map
13:04.04Xinhuanexcept by zoning there
13:04.24Xinhuanin fact only DKs can go there anyway
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13:05.16SunTsuXinhuan: Do you know whether it is possible to send mail while doing the DK starterquests?
13:05.39Repo10gathermate: 03kagaro * r596 / (11 files in 3 directories):
13:05.40RepoGatherMate: updated frozen herb icon, and added frost lotus, since these are found in wintergrasp as stand alone herbs
13:06.08Xinhuanif there's a mailbox
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13:06.12Repo10fubar_bagfu: 03phyber 07master * v1.1.1-5-gf6bb25c BagFu.lua: [+1 commit] Make 'usable' in the OnClick local.
13:06.14asmodaikagaro: nice ;)
13:06.19kagaro?
13:06.29Xinhuankagaro, _Data seems empty for crystalsong
13:07.11kagarowowdb has no herb data for crystalsong
13:07.17Xinhuanfail db
13:07.19SunTsuXinhuan: There is
13:07.28Xinhuani dont' consider like 3 nodes data ;p
13:07.44quiescensthey need to make [flyable] false if you don't have cold weather flying in northrend
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13:09.17Xinhuanmy guild is having an argument on /g
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13:09.45Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r201 TradeskillIdData.lua: - Fix a few unknown skill levels from WoWDB
13:09.54Xinhuanthey are trying to argue whether its inscriptor, inscriptioner, scribe, inscriber or otherwise
13:10.00Xinhuanfor a person with inscription as a profession
13:10.26Stanzillainscriber I think
13:10.53SunTsuXinhuan: I'd go with inscriber, but that's just some kind of feeling, no facts to support it
13:10.54ramozthats a word atleast
13:11.13Xinhuanthe game seems to have "scribe" for NPCs in dalaran
13:11.55ramozaccording to my wordbook a scriber is the tool a inscriber uses
13:12.54phyberInscriptionist.
13:14.44Xinhuaninscriptionologist
13:14.57doom0rInscriber
13:15.12neeneeI call myself a Scribe too.
13:15.29doom0rpretty much the same
13:15.50doom0reither way Xinhuan: no argument in wow
13:15.54phyberXinhuan: I like that one :)
13:15.57doom0rnpcs have prefix Inscriber
13:16.06Repo10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03ananhaid * r136 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Zone-3.0:
13:16.07Repo- zhCN/zhTW update.
13:16.09asmodaiinscriber is more accurate
13:16.11neeneeXinhuan: Did you finally get that LiveCD to delete those two files? :)
13:16.15asmodaiscriber is more someone who takes notes
13:16.23Xinhuanneenee no
13:16.25doom0ra scribe writes complete texts
13:16.29Repo10framesresized: 03Elkano * r39 / (2 files in 1 directory):
13:16.30Repotrying to fix the QuestLog frame top texture sometimes coming in front of the mid texture
13:16.57Xinhuani rightlick, properties --> security --> permissions --> advanced --> some super advanced tab --> some edit button --> unchecked "write attributes" DENY
13:17.03Xinhuanthen clicked OK 4 times and delete the file
13:17.31neeneeNice and intuitive then.
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13:24.09Adirelle|workXinhuan: what do think about this ? http://ace.pastey.net/102218
13:25.11Antiarchttp://i35.tinypic.com/2a65hfk.jpg
13:25.40doom0rthis stuck in combat crap is outta hand
13:25.51Antiarcreloading my UI fixes it usually
13:26.33doom0rthere's a water vendor in the sewers in dalaran
13:26.44Antiarcyes, that'd be the one
13:26.49AntiarcIt's just amusing because he's a mage
13:26.58doom0rand the best thing is if you use the buff from the pot on the round
13:27.01doom0rgroun*
13:27.03doom0rasdfkl;j
13:27.13doom0rgound, they look like tier2 mages
13:28.03AntiarcHaving 4200 AP self-buffed is amazing
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13:28.43doom0ri'm 74, a pally and i have 2300 with 26% crit already ;x
13:29.35doom0rmake that 75
13:31.04pentium166big number tiem
13:31.21pentium166my level 70 feral druid has 3700/46%!
13:31.44kenlyricAUGH DICK COMPARISON TIME
13:32.18pentium166although the crit% has nowhere to go but down
13:32.19AntiarcYour druid doesn't have a weapon worth 2000 AP :V
13:32.27AntiarcAnd yeah, crit drops about in half at 80
13:32.29pentium166pfft
13:32.48kenlyricsomething is wrong with wow...
13:32.51SunTsupentium166: AP is something unique to a certain class
13:32.59kenlyricthey've changed the login screen...
13:33.06pentium166no way :p
13:33.10kenlyricOH, there's no notice of rolling restarts
13:33.13SunTsukenlyric: Welcome to wotLK ;)
13:33.20Antiarcrofl
13:33.40kenlyricthat's the first time since 3.0 dropped there hasn't been an announcement window
13:33.50SunTsupentium166: 2k AP does not mean the same for a druid, a hunter or a rogue, for instance
13:33.57pentium166i realize that
13:34.11opanti'll slap you with my paws!
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13:34.35JY`2K ap for a mage is more than 2K ap for a rogue !
13:34.50opanti'll poke you with my staff!
13:34.52pentium166not really
13:35.03pentium166they'd need like 10k ap to compete with a rogue
13:35.43JY`:)
13:35.54doom0rpentium166: you mean 1300sp
13:36.09pentium166he specified ap, not sp!
13:36.38Repo10squire: 03Adirelle * r25 Core.lua:  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
13:36.39RepoReverted previous changes.
13:36.40RepoRewrote IsReallyFlyable to not fire WORLD_FRAME_EVENT (I swear I did not know !).
13:36.43RepoRewrote listeners to properly catch zone changes despite race condition between ZONE_CHANGED* and Get*ZoneText.
13:36.49RepoThanks to Xinhuan for pointing out these issues.
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13:53.13Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r100 / (2 files in 1 directory):
13:53.14RepoGatherMate_Data: added support for more selective importing of data
13:54.02AntiarcXinhuan: Can you make Gathermate pick up Everfrost chips?
13:54.16kagaroAntiarc: its working now
13:54.22AntiarcI need to upgrade then
13:54.27kagaroI added that yesterday
13:54.32XinhuanAntiarc, already added yesterday
13:54.37AntiarcThanks!
13:54.45AntiarcGrinding Sons of Hodir exalted is going to suck
13:56.15Xinhuani got valiance exalted now, so i have 39
13:56.17Xinhuanneed one more for 40
13:56.22Xinhuanwhat's the easiest
13:56.32AntiarcPick a tabard, grind heroics
13:56.43Xinhuankaluak then i guess, but i'm not lvl 80 yet
13:56.45Xinhuani'm 76
13:56.45AntiarcEbon Blade is nice, lots of dailies plus the tabard
13:56.53AntiarcKaluak don't have a tabard
13:56.57Xinhuanoh
13:57.03Xinhuanbut i'm closes to exalted with that one
13:57.06AntiarcEbon Blade is probably easiest
13:57.10Xinhuani'm like 6k/21k
13:57.12Xinhuanwith them
13:57.35Xinhuani don't even have Ebon whatever on my rep list lol
13:57.49Xinhuani've only seen 3 zones, but completed all 3 (fjord, DB and borean)
13:58.42jnwhitehAnyone happen to have a WoW client open/available with Lightheaded installed and up-to-date?
13:58.46jnwhitehJust need someone to test something for me.
13:58.52pentium166if you skip most of borean tundra and all of howling fjord, will you have enough content to quest to 80 after finishing dragonblight?
13:59.22AntiarcHm, I updated via the Curse client and don't have Everfrost chips in Gathermate
13:59.39jnwhitehCould you /run LightHeaded:UpdateFrame(11608) with the LightHeaded frame open, and let me know if it loads the information for that quest?
14:00.15manypentium166: quests+killing mobs with some (not much) resto are roundabout 5.5million XP
14:00.49kagaroAntiarc:  it should, ill double check it got pushed to curse
14:00.50manyfrom 70-80 youll need roundabout 16 million XP
14:01.44pentium166many: what is the 5.5 million number from?
14:01.51manyplaying my char ^^
14:01.55Xinhuandunno but i'm lvl 76 from doing the first 2 starter zones + dragonblight
14:01.56pentium166where though
14:01.58Xinhuan2 lvls per zone
14:02.02Xinhuandidn't even do the instances
14:02.10manyi was 73 3/4 when finishing tundra and fjord
14:02.52manyhit 74 in winterfortress (or whatever it is called) yesterday
14:03.00manyw/o any instances, too
14:04.03many+ i have the five achievements regarding to tundra and fjord (exploring both, quests somesmallnummber > 130 for both, DEHTA achievement)
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14:04.50manyFWIW, my opinion is to quite miss out tundra, but dont miss the fjord. the fjord is "too cute" too be missed =P
14:05.08Xinhuanshouldn't miss ANY zone
14:05.15Xinhuanparticularly if yuo're into lore
14:05.44pentium166well, I have two characters to level up so I kind of want to have something different for the second one
14:06.16manyebware that you might not get quests if you dont have the decent level
14:06.16AntiarcBorean is the worst of the Wrath zones, really
14:06.17AntiarcBy far
14:06.19kagaroAntiarc:  grab the version form wowace instead of curse, hasnt been pushed over yet
14:06.25Antiarck, thanks
14:06.50pentium166I've run into that a few times so far, but there have been other quests to do
14:06.53Repo10gathermate: 03kagaro * r597 / (12 files in 2 directories):
14:06.54RepoGatherMate: added support for more selective importing of data
14:07.05pentium166I can't turn in the wrath gate one yet because I'm not 74
14:07.10manymy 67 rogue doesnt get any quest there, yet, though it can steal the cloth from the human mobs already (nice new thing to learn!)
14:07.13kagaroIm addind a new import option so you can just import wrath data
14:07.19pentium166But I got to see the cutscene
14:07.40manywrath gate?
14:07.57pentium166spoilers!
14:08.06manyoh. my char is 74. if it hadnt been to dalaran before it could get into it nowÂ!
14:08.08manyhehe
14:08.12manypentium166: okay, dont spoil
14:08.30many's not like the kids who turned 80 saturday evening
14:08.42manywe even have a 80 DK already ....
14:09.10pentium166I already knew what was going to happen from reading the forums :(
14:10.55manywe got into dalaran by beating up a single horde char. "Perfect warsong" now that was cute. my gfs only PVP fight and she made it "perfect"
14:11.34pentium166What, the horde team had one player in WSG?
14:11.41manyYeah
14:11.44pentium166nice
14:12.07manyand we were 10. so it was too easy =P
14:12.31SunTsumany: Fjord is real cute, but in my experience tundra is faster ;) And Coldarra is real awesome
14:13.18SunTsuJawdropper the first time I saw it
14:13.45pentium166I did Coldarra and a handful of the quests around the Alliance town... people keep saying to do up to the Last Rites quest though
14:15.37Repo10gathermate: 03kagaro * r598 Config.lua: GatherMate: added check for combo to ensure proper import
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14:19.47manypentium166: last rites is the key to naxx
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14:20.14Repo10gathermate: 03kagaro 04v1.0.8 * r599 : Tagging as v1.0.8
14:20.25Fisker-moo: cpu: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Xeon processor (x64) at 2673MHz
14:20.27Fisker-:*
14:20.28Fisker-:(
14:20.34quiescensmoo
14:21.51Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r101 / (4 files in 1 directory): GatherMate_Data: Weekly update
14:21.53Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro 04v1.12 * r102 : GatherMate_Data: weekly update
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14:31.28Parnicping for mods to deal with this guy: http://wow.curse.com/user/Profile.aspx?UserID=770717
14:31.46Parniche's leaving defamatory comments about curse and a bunch of addons, blaming them as keyloggers
14:31.51Repo10ab: 03Dridzt * r48 / (4 files in 1 directory): - various widget compatibility fixes for wow 3.x/WotLK
14:31.52Repo- .pkgmeta externals fixed
14:31.52Repo- .toc ##Interface: 30000
14:36.37ckknightKody-: can you ban people on curse?
14:36.45Repo10ab: 03Dridzt * r49 libs/: - setup as external instead
14:37.52phyberjudging by his comments, it looks like he was a retard that got keylogged and then blamed it on every addon that he had loaded.
14:38.09Repo10gathermate: 03kagaro * r600 / (10 files in 2 directories): GatherMate: Fixed naming of Expact to Expansion
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14:38.57Brunerscan wow and lua execute a file?
14:39.14Lukianno
14:39.31Brunersthen how do you sneak in a keylogger with addons?
14:39.40Brunersand make it run
14:39.53Lukianuser has to manually run it or be tricked to
14:39.55phyber.exe installer for the addon or .exe in the zip and hope people are dumb enough to run it, i guess.
14:40.01Lukian"readme.txt                                                                       .exe"
14:40.02Repo10ab: 03Dridzt * r50 AB.toc: - repackage for externals
14:40.13Lukianso you can't see the extension in the zip file :p
14:40.42MegalonBruners: PEBCAC ;)
14:41.00phyberchair and chair?
14:41.11Megalonchair and computer
14:41.18Megalonor pebcas
14:41.21TinyboomPEBCAK is the word :p
14:41.23Lukianthere's only cables down there?
14:41.35Lukian:p
14:42.12Megalonpebkac, pebmac, pebcac, pebkam
14:42.16Megalonlist goes on
14:42.40Lukiankeyboard and mouse? there's nothing there :p
14:42.48Megalonmonitor
14:43.01Lukianmy usb drive not plugged in? :p
14:44.03Megalonwell, feeded enough i think :)
14:44.08ckknightBruners: note that we don't allow exes to be approved on curseforge without source code anyway...
14:44.18Lukianamusingly, none of those apply to me ^_^
14:44.48Brunersckknight: that all good, but i was more wondering how
14:44.56Lukianmy keyboard is on my chair and I'm lying in bed :p
14:45.00Brunersi dont really understand how people get hacked anyway
14:45.08ckknightyea, curse hasn't had a real keylogger in a good long time
14:45.11Brunersunless they do run a keylogger
14:45.33Brunersatleast 3 people in my guild got hacked
14:45.48Lukianthere's trojans which target wow specificly too
14:46.07Brunersagain how do you get them on your computer
14:46.15cncfanaticsI played since vanilla release
14:46.17Lukianpebkac :p
14:46.18cncfanaticsnever got hacked
14:46.22cncfanaticspeople who do are tards :p
14:46.27Lukian^
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14:46.42Brunersi have had one virus in my life and it was in early 96
14:46.45Lukian(net cafes probably aren't particularly safe either)
14:46.50doom0rBruners: browser exploits, flaws in media formats
14:47.03Lukiansurfing the web with IE
14:47.07Lukianoh wait, you said that
14:47.34cncfanaticsbeing on internet with windows :p
14:47.42quiescensthat's what you think
14:47.59Brunersi was on the interwebs with window 95
14:48.37cncfanaticsI would dare to say windows 98SE is safer then vista is
14:48.39Lukianwindows is fine if you have a brain :p
14:48.46quiescensyou have  virus now and you just don't know!
14:48.58quiescens<PROTECTED>
14:49.20Lukianneeded a couple more spaces quiescens :p
14:49.26quiescens):
14:50.56Brunersi also wonder how people got virus on floppys before there was internet
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14:51.39quiescenspeople used to leave them in the drive and reboot
14:51.44LukianI have one on floppy which I'm keeping :D
14:52.42Brunersthe one and only virus i have had came from a floppy
14:54.56Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1750 Modules/WrathoftheLichKing/wrathofthelichking.lua: Bad ItemID fixed
14:55.06Brunersany of you remember the old Flintstones "porn" ?
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14:56.52Jyggacombine these things: carbonite does fanzy things and looks cool, young aspiring computer haxxor downloads stuff because it costs 2$ and you got a lot of people hacked ^^
15:03.56Repo10gathermate: 03next96 * r602 Locales/GatherMate-koKR.lua: GatherMate :
15:03.57Repo- Update locale koKR
15:06.39Repo10digits: 03Satrina * r6 / (13 files in 4 directories): - Add CallbackHandler-1.0 dependency
15:06.40Repo- Fix runic power update for Deathknight
15:06.44kenlyricodd.
15:06.52kenlyricfocuspettarget seems to make wand fail
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15:07.19kenlyricprobably since it's autofire it has to actually change the target.
15:07.20KolieSup.
15:08.52Repo10digits: 03Satrina 041.0.1 * r7 : Tagging as 1.0.1
15:10.51Repo10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina * r98 / (22 files in 3 directories): Delete em
15:11.13Repo10digits: 03Satrina * r8 / (7 files in 2 directories): Delete em
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15:12.05Ihmemieslibrock's minimap icon (screw) appears straight on top of blizzard's tracking type icon.. and i can't figure out a way to move it. any ideas?
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15:14.12Xinhuanthe way to move it.. is to drag it, so kinda bad luck lol
15:14.33Xinhuanhowever if you relog, the screw will prob reappear in a different location
15:14.42StanzillaI think in the updated rocklibs the button is disabled by default
15:14.55steevso, every time i log in, the addons/interface window is opened to OneBag3 - anyone happen to know what might cause this?
15:15.13SunTsu~seen toadkiller
15:15.17purltoadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-99-188-166-150.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 55m 13s ago, saying: 'I have issues right clicking pitbull and selecting "set focus"'.
15:15.58IhmemiesStanzilla, it is, but i'd like to keep it visible..
15:16.07Ihmemieseasier than making a macro button for /rock :P
15:16.10Repo10cartographer_quest-info: 03next96 * r69 Locale/Locale-koKR.lua: Cartographer_QuestInfo:
15:16.10Repo- Update locale koKR
15:16.23Ihmemiesseems it really stays disabled by default.. it forgot the enabled setting when i relogged
15:17.22Ihmemiesit also forgets config frame's transparency settings.. probably doesn't even really save them anywhere :S
15:17.43Ihmemies-,-
15:18.29Ihmemiesmaybe i'm using some ancient version
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15:21.36Ihmemiesnewest version doesn't save my settings either
15:23.10StanzillaI think Arrowmaster played around with that, ask him :P
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15:25.32Ihmemiesmy main problem though was that there doesn't seem to be any way to hide icehud's bars when out of combat =D
15:26.58Ihmemieshmm ah
15:26.58Ihmemiestransparency settings
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15:31.35Ihmemiesaltough there's no setting for text alpha...  luckily it supports dogtags so i could hide text with it
15:34.30Ihmemiesnow if there was a way to gracefully fade in & out all that stuff :| maybe i should learn lua
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15:45.08ArrowmasterIhmemies: its broken, never going to be fixed
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15:46.08Ihmemies:-----(
15:46.09IhmemiesWhy not!
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15:51.10Arrowmasterbecause it has no way of saving the settings
15:54.18asmodaiI wonder why questhelper sometimes loses its quest text in the tracker frame :S
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15:55.04kadrahilbecause you completed the quest?
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15:55.32kadrahilor because you're going in a different direction that it wanted you to so it updated another quest to be the primary objective?
15:55.33IhmemiesArrowmaster, and there's no point implementing one? :(
15:55.46kadrahilso it's showing that quest's text objective in the tracker frame instead of the other one?
15:55.56ArrowmasterIhmemies: nope since rock is dead
15:56.28Ihmemiesbah.
15:56.43Ihmemieswhat i'm supposed to use instead of rock?
15:56.43asmodainah
15:56.52Ihmemies900000 separate config panels? :)
15:56.54asmodaiyou see the small rectangle to move the qh tracker frame
15:57.04asmodaibut where it normally shows like 5 quests' text
15:57.07asmodaiit suddenly is empty
15:57.11neeneeHow about waterfall or such
15:57.16asmodaino text whatsoever, yet the frame is there
15:58.31asmodai*does a reloadui*
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16:00.19IhmemiesI think rock was nice, it had all the stuff in same place and settings were easy to adjust! Maybe I was the only one then
16:00.26Arrowmasteryou were
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16:02.55Repo10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r5 Broker_RecZone.lua: Broker_RecZone:
16:02.56Repo- Fixes to tooltips
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16:04.05VexirIs it possible to have a macro for reply-to-whisper?
16:04.09Vexirso i can put it on a bar
16:04.27Vexirvery complex reason for this, involves button paging to get around the fact that mouse buttons cant be bound to shift,ctrl, and alt
16:04.29Vexirbut anyway
16:04.32Vexirlike perhaps some script
16:04.37Vexiror whats the slash command for it mabye
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16:08.05SunTsuIhmemies: I liked the way rock did it _then_. Now Blizz' config panel is much better, IMHO.
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16:08.25asmodaimmm, reloadui didn't help
16:09.16VexirAnyone? how can i represent reply-to-whisper with script/macro?
16:10.20SunTsuVexir: "/r Thanks for the whisper"? ;)
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16:10.43Vexirhaha... okay /r is sort of what im looking for
16:10.44Vexirbut
16:11.01Vexiri'd like to be able to push a button on my bar which will then allow me to type in my response
16:11.31EvilJohn-you can't make a macro that has nothign but "/r" in it?
16:11.39Vexirwill that work? sec
16:12.18Vexirno because then i actually say "/r"
16:12.22Vexirlol like /say
16:12.51Vexiractually /r isnt even an actual command
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16:20.55ckknightVexir: yes it is...
16:21.01ckknightI thought it was, at least
16:21.11Vexirckknight: then why when i type /r in game it just says /r
16:21.13Vexirlol
16:21.19Vexiryes, the official WoW website also lists /r as a command
16:21.34ckknightbecause you touch yourself at night
16:21.54Vexiryou caught me
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16:22.57Vexirdoes /r work in game for you?
16:25.05SunTsuVexir: /w also says /w as long as you don't giva an argument
16:25.13SunTsus/giva/give/
16:25.39Vexirbut /r isnt supposed to have an argument
16:26.04Vexirits supposed to initiate a text box right?
16:26.56SunTsuVexir: Only after you press space, you could want to write /raise instead
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16:28.24Vexirit doesnt tho
16:28.32Vexiri type "/r "
16:28.42Vexiroh wit
16:28.44Vexir*wait
16:28.46Vexirbooyah!
16:28.51Vexirso how do i make that a macro
16:28.59Vexirjust put "/r " as the macro?
16:29.18Vexiryay! it works
16:29.21Vexirthank you all
16:29.50Vexirturns out i didnt need it after all because i just figured out how to set my mouse buttons to ctrl shift and alt
16:29.51Vexirbut
16:29.53Vexiryeah :D
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16:30.42SunTsu.o0( Am I the only one who does not see a relation between these two things? )
16:31.23Jaxondurcyn: I downloaded it last night, but it loosk like LibBars wasn't included in the Heatsink download
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16:33.07durcynJaxon: okay, i'll check the paths, thanks
16:34.10Repo10arl: 03TrAsHeR * r1096 RecipeDB/ARL-Mob.lua: Fix bug :
16:34.10Repo["Ruins of Ahn'Qiraji"] > ["Ruins of Ahn'Qiraj"]
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16:41.48Repo10arl: 03TrAsHeR * r1097 RecipeDB/ARL-Mob.lua: Fix anything bug
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16:44.25asmodaihttp://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=213
16:44.28asmodaidk is now class #2
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16:44.55asmodaihey AckisWork
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16:49.42VexirHow would I go about writing a macro that uses the next best healing potion?
16:49.50Vexiror rather does anyone ahve a link to that for wrath?
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16:51.34SunTsuVexir: /use <item> - and lots of them, all on a new line
16:51.47Vexiroh alright
16:51.57Vexirwhy does this person ahve /stopmacro [nocombat] before it though?
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16:52.09Vexirdoes that mean the macro will not work if out of combat?
16:52.20Zyndromehttp://derdritte.soup.io/post/6961628/An-infinite-number-of-mathematicians-walk-into
16:52.28SunTsuVexir: Because using potions out of combat is sort of dumb?
16:52.37Vexirhaha
16:52.59Vexirwas just wondering what the syntax meant
16:53.03Vexirthanks
16:53.23Vexirgrr, wow wiki doesnt have wrath potions on it
16:53.40Repo10utopia: 03Zeksie * r38 / (4 files in 1 directory):
16:53.40RepoUtopia: Couple of fixes/tidies, and removed the debug message when a debuff is replaced by someone else. ie: Same Judgement being applied by another.
16:54.15Slaymandamn some days i hate my job very much, especially when it's time to do slave labor
16:55.02SunTsuVexir: Yeah, it stops the macro when not in combat
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16:58.20Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1098 ARLDataminer.rb:
16:58.21RepoFix typos in the dataminer, need to do more changes later then rerun it to fix the localization errors.
16:58.23asmodaikadrahil: found it
16:58.39asmodaikadrahil: but feck if I know how I managed to make it disappear in the first place
16:58.58asmodaikadrahil: the move button/thinghy of the frame also acts as a 'blinder'
16:59.11asmodaiif you click it once, it hides the text, click again, the text is back
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17:11.16Repo10libbabble-faction-3-0: 03Ackis * r66 LibBabble-Faction-3.0.lua: deDE update thanks to LarryCurse
17:14.49Repo10fubar_factionsfu: 03Arrowmaster * r80 FuBar_FactionsFu.lua: Use GetRealZoneText() instead of GetZoneText()
17:14.52AckisWorkhttp://www.explosm.net/comics/1466/
17:16.19asmodaiheh
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17:16.58AckisWorkasmodai: check out the report that was created
17:17.00AckisWorkfor arl
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17:23.58Repo10dr-damage: 03Dally1991 * r699 Data/Hunter.lua: DrDamage:
17:23.59Repo- Added Focused Aim for Hunters
17:24.25Repo10under-hood: 03Anadale 072 * r32 / (62 files in 11 directories):  (Message trimmed by 2 lines)
17:24.26RepoUnderHood:
17:24.27Repo- Added modules for Combo Points and DK's Runes
17:24.29Repo- Localizable strings moved to corresponding localization files
17:24.33Repo- TOC files added for modules
17:26.24Elkano~slap Arrowmaster
17:26.25purlACTION slaps Arrowmaster, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
17:26.31Arrowmaster?
17:26.40Elkanowhy did you commit a change to FactionsFu?
17:26.50Arrowmasterbecause GetZoneText is evil
17:26.56Arrowmastersince blizzard always bugs it
17:27.28Elkanoworks fine for me so far...
17:27.54Arrowmasterim riding around and like every elevator changes GetZoneText
17:30.26ArrowmasterGetZoneText is only for display, you should never use it for logic
17:31.43Elkanowell, anyways... heading home ^^
17:31.55AckisWorkhave fun
17:32.38Repo10dr-damage: 03Dally1991 * r700 Data (2 files in 1 directory): DrDamage:
17:32.39Repo- Fixed some spell entries in Priest.lua
17:32.41Repo- Cleaned up a couple of lines in Hunter.lua
17:34.16Ihmemieshttp://hakkarainen.kuvat.fi/tempo/icehud_runes.jpg where that stupid box around runes comes from -,-
17:34.28Ihmemieshmm, omnicc perhaps :S
17:34.34Ihmemiesif it treats those as buttons? no idea
17:34.39neeneeFrom one of the evil addons you use :)
17:35.10MikkSomething is painting the standard cooldown dial on top of them
17:35.19Brunersjust tanked gundrak as level 74 DK
17:35.21MikkAnd something (I assume OmniCC) is also printing the cooldown in seconds
17:35.27MikkWhere the dial comes from i do not know
17:35.37MikkBruners: try it at 72!
17:36.03Brunerswould have to go back in time or level another one then :P
17:36.20Mikk;)
17:36.37AckisWorkteabags Mikk.
17:36.37Ihmemiesit's omnicc
17:36.38MikkYaknow.. I have to wonder...
17:36.49MikkWhy does AutoBar only depend on PeriodicTable for the quest button?
17:36.55Ironhandcan anyone tell me where I can currently download the mining/herbalism modules for Cartographer?
17:36.57Ihmemiespity it has to draw those as boxes instead of circles!
17:37.02MikkIt's like.. ALWAYS out of date
17:37.16MikkAnd once it's updated, you've quested past the bits that you needed it for
17:37.41MikkIhmemies: check the config - it's entirely possible they can be disabled
17:38.19Ihmemiesyes, but it disables them from all other buttons too then
17:38.37ZhinjioAckisWork: working on images again, since I didn't get a chance last night
17:38.46IhmemiesUse beql, it's nice quest log & tracker replacement :P
17:38.55AckisWorkZhinjio: sweet dude ty
17:39.11IhmemiesWell, I'll just live with the boxes
17:40.04MikkPLAYTIME_TIRED = "You have more than 3 hours of online time. You will receive 1/2 money and XP during this period. Your rest state will reset in %d hours of offline time. Please go rest. ";
17:40.11MikkPLAYTIME_UNHEALTHY = "You have more than 5 hours of online time. You will not be able to gain loot, XP, or complete quests.  Your rest state will reset in %d hours of offline time. Please log out to get rest and exercise.";
17:40.11Mikkwtf
17:40.24MikkIn communist russia, wow plays you?
17:40.34asmodaiChina has something similar IIRC
17:40.38AckisWorkis that Chinese?
17:42.26MikkPROC_EVENT0_DESC = "No Proc Trigger Assigned. Tell Kevin.";
17:42.37Mikkshouldn't be reading GlobalStrings.lua, too much fun in it
17:43.06Repo10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio * r23 / (2 files in 2 directories): - added in screenshot capability (off by default)
17:43.25Repo10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio 041.8-release * r24 : Tagging as 1.8-release
17:43.30Mikkbwhaha, autoscreenshot on crit records? =)
17:43.57ZhinjioIndeed. It was requested.
17:44.05Zhinjiootherwise, I wouldn't have put it in.
17:44.08neeneeI wouldn't want to have that enabled on a dual-wielder :P
17:44.25neeneeOr on a Hunter using Volley for the first time :)
17:44.28Zhinjioyeah, especially during initial data gathering, you'll be screenshotting more than you won't be.
17:45.15Repo10fubar_bagfu: 03phyber 04v1.1.2 * 120a8c4 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.1.2
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17:47.07MikkSeriously though, re autobar... wouldn't it make more sense to take like... all Quest/Quest items, scan tooltip for "Use:"?
17:47.38Mikkwtb toadkiller
17:48.41Megalonautobar uses PT for questitems? :x
17:48.52Megalon<3 Qbar :>
17:50.39Repo10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.4.1-3-g90873f4 HotCandy.lua: [+1 commit] Rejuventation was increased to be a 15s HoT before talents, apparently.
17:51.15AckisWorknevcairiel: have you tried running hotcandy on a hunter for example?
17:51.26nevcairielno :P
17:51.32AckisWorktry it
17:51.43nevcairieli dont have a hunter :(
17:51.49nevcairielbut the error was already fixed in alpha
17:51.51AckisWorkany class that doesn't heal will work
17:51.53AckisWorkahh ok
17:52.09Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r149 modules/PlayerNames.lua: enable the tab-complete option which was commented out
17:52.12Repo10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 041.4.2 * 52d0bac /: [new tag] Tag as 1.4.2
17:52.25AckisWorkwhat really confused me is that error would constantly pop-up opposed to just show up once
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17:54.12sylvanaarfyi Mikk, prat does the following now: filter, newarg1 = filterFunc(arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7, arg8, arg9, arg10, arg11, arg12)
17:54.18sylvanaarsatisfied?
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17:54.46nevcairielAh now thats unfair
17:54.56nevcairielrejuvenation increases its duration on the last rank
17:55.10nevcairielguess i'll just match that by level of the player, then <.<
17:55.13sylvanaardid you know that OnEvent of the chatframe is run in an evironment that is not getfenv(0)
17:55.24Megalonnevcairiel: only rank15 is 15s baseline :P
17:55.37nevcairielyeah i just noticed
18:00.28Repo10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.4.3 HotCandy.lua: [+1 commit] Anyway, Rejuvenation only increases its duration on the level 80 rank. HotCandy now checks if the player is level 80, and adjust the duration accordingly. Note that this might be inconsistent when you just hit 80 without a trainer visit for the new rank.
18:00.29Repo10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 041.4.3 * 0e81b90 /: [new tag] Tag as 1.4.3
18:02.03Repo10cartographer: 03AbydosLanti * r2286 LICENSE.txt: Lib update
18:02.29Xinhuansomeone find out what was changed in that liscense
18:03.23sylvanaarthats a good question
18:03.44sylvanaari like how its called a "Lib update"
18:03.46Xinhuani mean, changing a liscense.txt can't be a "lib update"
18:04.04Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1099 ARLDataminer.rb: Lib update
18:04.11Xinhuanslaps Ackis away with a large trout
18:04.18AckisWorklol
18:04.19AckisWorkhad to
18:04.27AckisWork@project cartographer
18:04.27RepoAckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/cartographer/. Cartographer. Game: WoW. Leader: ckknight. Authors: Moncai, AbydosLanti. Updated: 119 seconds ago. Tickets: 11/65
18:04.53sylvanaarhe added his name
18:05.07Xinhuanis that it?
18:05.08sylvanaarto the list of authors on the liscense
18:05.10sylvanaaryes
18:05.35Xinhuanshould have had arrow's name too
18:05.36sylvanaarCopyright (C) 2006-2007  ckknight, Funkydude, kergoth, nymbia, kagaro, Abydos
18:05.55AckisWorkhttp://ace.pastey.net/102234
18:06.04Xinhuanshould probably have my name and Arrowmaster's too
18:06.14Arrowmasterfor cartographer?
18:06.18Xinhuanyeah
18:06.33Xinhuanthat 2007 should also be 2008
18:06.37Xinhuanpretty fail :)
18:06.43AckisWorkXinhuan: plan ahead and call it 2009
18:06.52Arrowmasterme and ellipse worked on it a lot when ckk was mia
18:07.03Xinhuani rewrote half of _waypoints
18:07.11sylvanaarwhy'd he call it a "lib update" though
18:07.16sylvanaari still want to know
18:07.54Arrowmasterimho he shouldnt be adding himself since afaik he hasnt written shit for it, just trying to fix it for 3.0
18:08.04AckisWork~seen ellipse
18:08.07purli haven't seen 'ellipse', AckisWork
18:08.15Arrowmaster~eclipse
18:08.16purlwell, eclipse is a kind of universal tool platform - an open extensible IDE for anything and nothing in particular.  http://www.eclipse.org/
18:08.16AckisWorkhow did I fuck up her name?
18:08.20SunTsuAckisWork: "Ellipsis"?
18:08.21Arrowmaster~seen eclipse
18:08.21purlArrowmaster: i haven't seen 'eclipse'
18:08.27AckisWork~seen Ellipsis
18:08.27purlellipsis <n=ellipsis@c-71-231-115-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 58d 3h 2m 30s ago, saying: 'now it's active hate'.
18:08.30Arrowmaster~seen ellipsis
18:08.30purlellipsis <n=ellipsis@c-71-231-115-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 58d 3h 2m 33s ago, saying: 'now it's active hate'.
18:08.53SunTsuIn knew sbd. was missing
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18:09.20AckisWorkArrowmaster, Xinhuan: want me to commit your names/date change to the license since I have it checked out?
18:09.28Arrowmastersure
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18:09.35Xinhuandont' really care
18:09.46Xinhuandont' really support cart2 anymore
18:09.48Xinhuananyway
18:09.49Arrowmasterput mine before that other guy
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18:10.25Repo10cartographer: 03Ackis * r2287 LICENSE.txt:
18:10.26RepoLib update (add Xinhuan and Arrowmaster and Ellipsis to the license as well
18:10.31AckisWork:P
18:10.41Repo10fubar_performancefu: 03Xinhuan 04v2.0.0b * r146 : Tag beta v2.0.0b
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18:12.26AckisWorkXinhuan: have you done the turkey slaying yet?
18:12.30Xinhuanya
18:12.40AckisWorkdoes it make you hostile to critters?
18:12.53Repo10dr-damage: 03Dally1991 * r701 Data/Druid.lua: DrDamage:
18:12.54Repo- Fixed Nourish
18:12.56Xinhuanno, but i heard it does, for some people
18:13.02phyberyeah, it did for me.
18:13.18phyberand an angry turkey chased me into an instance
18:13.26Xinhuani took a flightpath though right after completing it
18:13.31Xinhuanthat might have removed the invisible buff
18:14.29AckisWorkI want to die to a rabbit
18:14.31AckisWorka troll eating rabbit
18:14.33AckisWorkom nom nom
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18:15.48Xinhuandid you see the bear called Hozzer ;p
18:16.26AckisWorkno
18:16.26AckisWorkeh
18:16.26AckisWorklol
18:16.31AckisWorkgotta find that bear now
18:16.36Xinhuanhjord quest
18:16.38Xinhuanf*
18:16.39AckisWorkI hit 77 and stopped leveling... I'm exploring shit
18:16.42AeyanHe's in the fjord
18:16.45AckisWorkI haven't done the fjord
18:16.47AeyanOver at the pirate isle
18:17.10JaxonAckisWork: it made me hostile to critters, some of the neutral Shoveltusks and the dryads that give out quests in the north of the zone.
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18:17.55AckisWorkJaxon: could you do those quests still?
18:18.02Xinhuanyes
18:18.05JaxonHad to log out/log back in so I could turn in the quests I had.
18:18.07Xinhuanrelogging will clear the issue
18:18.21AckisWorkahh /sadface
18:18.23Xinhuanjust a typical blizzard joke ;p
18:18.26Fisker-slaps Xinhuan around a bit with a large trout
18:18.41AckisWorkI was hoping I'd be hostile to critters for ever
18:19.03AckisWorkAn elephant asked a camel "Why do u have boobs on your back?"
18:19.04AckisWorkThe camel replied, "Dude that's a good question for a guy who has a penis on his face."
18:20.34AckisWorkFisker-: http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/why_so_serious_drunk.htm
18:20.51JaxonSo for a zone that looks completely flat on the map, it is a lot more fun than I was expecting (Zul'Drak).
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18:39.02Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03mikk * r47 / (3 files in 3 directories): Add a few wrath quest items, run compresssplit
18:39.34Fisker-hurts AckisWork
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19:00.04Repo10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.4.4 HotCandy.lua: [+1 commit] Fix Logic error
19:00.05Repo10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 041.4.4 * 30beae3 /: [new tag] Tag as 1.4.4
19:00.22Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1100 / (3 files in 2 directories): Dataminer updates
19:05.22Xinhuanwhats the escape code for \000 in lua hmm
19:05.36Xinhuani mean the lua pattern for it
19:05.39Xinhuanfor searching
19:06.21Mikk%z iir
19:06.22Mikkc
19:06.43Mikklua> string.match("foo\000bar", "%z")
19:06.43lua_botMikk:
19:06.46sylvanaari was confused about what %z matched. it just says zero
19:06.50Mikklua> string.find("foo\000bar", "%z")
19:06.50lua_botMikk: 4, 4
19:06.53Mikkis clevar
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19:08.13Megalonlua> string.find("foo\000bar", "\000")
19:08.13lua_botMegalon: 4, 4
19:08.47Mikkclearly too easy
19:09.17sylvanaarlua> for k in ("foo\000\bar\000foo\000bar"):gmatch("([^%z]+)%z?") do print(k) end
19:09.17lua_botsylvanaar: foo, ar, foo, bar
19:09.19Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1101 ARLDataminer.rb:
19:09.19RepoData miner updates for more missing factions and to use babble boss instead of localizations.
19:09.40sylvanaarlua> for k in ("foo\000bar\000foo\000bar"):gmatch("([^%z]+)%z?") do print(k) end
19:09.41lua_botsylvanaar: foo, bar, foo, bar
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19:10.06Mikkany particular reason for the "%z?" at the end?
19:10.16sylvanaarnope
19:10.28sylvanaarlua> for k in ("foo\000bar\000foo\000bar"):gmatch("([^%z]+)") do print(k) end
19:10.28lua_botsylvanaar: foo, bar, foo, bar
19:10.32Xinhuanheh
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19:12.18sylvanaarlua> for k in ("foo\000bar\000foo\000bar"):gmatch("(%Z+)") do print(k) end
19:12.18lua_botsylvanaar: foo, bar, foo, bar
19:13.04sylvanaarlua> for k in ("foo\000bar\000foo\000bar"):gmatch("%Z+") do print(k) end
19:13.04lua_botsylvanaar: foo, bar, foo, bar
19:14.48sylvanaarlua> for k in ("foo\000bar\000foo\000bar"):gmatch("\000+") do print(k) end
19:14.49lua_botsylvanaar: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,
19:15.23sylvanaarlua> for k in ("foo\000bar\000foo\000bar"):gmatch("[^\000]+") do print(k) end
19:15.23lua_botsylvanaar: luabot:1: malformed pattern (missing ']')
19:15.35sylvanaargood stuff
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19:17.30Xinhuanlua> for k in ("foo\000bar\000foo\000bar"):gmatch("[^%z]+") do print(k) end
19:17.30lua_botXinhuan: foo, bar, foo, bar
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19:23.05asmodaidid 25th november do naxx with 20 or 25 man?
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19:27.18PrimerOn curse.com, at the top right it shows that I'm logged in, but when I try to comment, it tells me I need to be logged in
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19:35.53PrimerHow costly is it to hide your addon's frame on every onupdate?
19:38.22Xinhuannot very
19:38.43Xinhuanbut more costly than having a boolean flag to check
19:40.53Arrowmasteralso costly depending on how costly the OnHide and OnShow of the frame are if it has them
19:41.45PrimerXinhuan: ok, that's what I figured. Thanks
19:42.06XinhuanArrowmaster, the OnHide script doesn't get called if its already hidden
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19:43.28Arrowmasteryeah but if its running its onupdate then its not hidden
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19:43.55Xinhuanhe didn't say its the same frame as the onupdate script ;p
19:44.19Primerthere are no onhide or onshow
19:44.30PrimerI do all the hiding and showing in the onupdate
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19:54.39Primerso pardon me if this seems like a stupid question, but, I've parented all the UI elements I use to the frame of my addon. Shouldn't hiding that parent frame hide that frame and all its children, even if the children are explicitly show()n?
19:56.28Brunershow do you make a macro to target a raid icon target?
19:57.20Xinhuanyes it does primer
19:57.34SunTsuBruners: not at all
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19:59.01Brunersyou cant do that?
20:05.10Matrix110Is it possible to automatically leach my pet with the pet leach? :P
20:05.15SunTsuBruners: No
20:08.36ArrowmasterMatrix110: its an item you use right?
20:08.41Matrix110ye
20:08.51Arrowmasterprobably no
20:08.56Matrix110but its not a use: item
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20:10.24Matrix110http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37460
20:12.09Ironhandis there a Mining module available for the 3.0 compatible version of Cartographer?
20:12.35SunTsuMatrix110: Just put it into a macro to summon your pet
20:12.51Matrix110Iam using a pet mod that rebinds "w" to summon pets :P
20:13.04Matrix110Cant put ~60 pets in a macro :D
20:13.05Repo10baldrick: 03LordFarlander * r95 / (2 files in 2 directories): Baldrick:
20:13.06Repo- Ticket 2: Added support for "Planning for the Future"
20:13.23Repo10baggins_outfitter: 03daagaak 07master * fb4a74d Baggins_Outfitter.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed the "Any" filter, needs more work, will fail on a set
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20:25.43moppedDoes anyone know a 'chardev' but with wotlk items?
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20:27.54Repo10statlogiclib: 03Adirelle * r200 StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: - frFR locale fixes and updates.
20:30.53ArrowmasterIronhand: the cartographer2 profession modules have been dead for a long time, use gathermate
20:31.16abydoslantiheys guys before i go and commit a really lame hack, i was wondering if there is a function similar to UpdateMapHighlight but that includes Dalaran too.
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20:32.07abydoslantiLibTourist uses UpdateMapHighlight to find a lot of information on a zone, but Dalaran cannot be highlighted so it cant find Dalaran.
20:32.50Arrowmasterno
20:33.02Arrowmasterthere is no zone info for dalaran
20:33.10abydoslantiok lame hack it is :(
20:33.19Arrowmasterwhats the lame hack before you commit it?
20:33.30Adirelleoddly enough, I drycoded something that actually works...
20:33.43abydoslantiSetMapZoom(continentID, 3) zones["Dalaran"].texture = GetMapInfo() SetMapToCurrentZone()
20:33.50abydoslantiworks afaik
20:34.05abydoslantibut ofc the continent id is checked
20:34.11abydoslantimake sure its Northrend
20:34.17Arrowmasterdont
20:34.22abydoslantiwhy
20:35.49Arrowmasteryou can just add the texture name directly to tourist like the other zones do
20:36.23Repo10libtourist-3-0: 03Arrowmaster * r70 LibTourist-3.0.lua: Add Dalaran texture name
20:36.24abydoslantithey do?..
20:36.24Arrowmasterlike that
20:36.27abydoslantiok sec
20:36.47Arrowmasterthe others that cant be found automaticly yeah
20:37.07abydoslantiah right, thanks
20:37.20Arrowmasterdalaran is weird though and theres no possition or size info
20:37.34Arrowmasternot even in the data files
20:40.29Repo10cartographer: 03AbydosLanti * r2288 Cartographer.lua: Fixed Dalaran
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20:43.19abydoslantiwouldnt happen to know the name of the wmo file for Ahn'Kahet would you?
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20:45.08Arrowmasterlook in the tranlation file
20:45.27abydoslantiI have, cant find any mention of it with that name though
20:46.00Arrowmasterfire up wowmapviewer?
20:46.51abydoslantiill check that out, thanks
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20:56.55Repo10baldrick: 03LordFarlander * r96 / (2 files in 2 directories): Baldrick:
20:56.56Repo- Possible fix for ticket 1 (one quest has impaled the other Impaled in 3.0.x)
20:59.26Repo10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r220 / (2 files in 1 directory): BadBoy: blacklist update v2.1.0.6
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21:26.14Repo10brokerxp: 03cpw11 * r4 / (2 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 3 lines)
21:26.15RepoAdded a bunch of new computations:
21:26.16Repo- Last XP gain and time ago
21:26.17Repo- "Instantaneous XP" based on recent activity (5 mins)
21:26.21Repo- This allows for trend analysis (xp rate increasing and decreasing)
21:30.10Repo10brokerxp: 03cpw11 * r5 Broker_XP.lua: Fix for "typ" is nil error
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21:36.13TentacledI'm sure everyone loves such questions... but when can one hope for Cart2 to include mine or equivalent fixes to Babble and Tourist, enabling DK area mapnotes and waypoints..?
21:37.16Arrowmasterlikely never
21:37.40Arrowmastersince im guessing the waypoint module just cant support it
21:38.10TorhalAnd the fact that Cart2 needs to DIAF.
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21:40.26Grumindeed; why are people still using Cartographer2?
21:41.01TorhalGrum: I'm thinking it has something to do with not wanting to delete the folder from Interface/AddOns and then downloading Mapster.
21:42.19AckisWorkpeople use Cart2 because Cart3 isn't 100% yet? :P
21:42.40Arrowmastercart3 is never going to be 100% by their standards
21:43.00Arrowmastersince by design its not going to have everything cart2 had
21:43.00NivFreakgod, wowhead really needs to cleanup thier naxx crap
21:43.38NivFreakAckisWork: I dislike cat3
21:43.40NivFreakcart3 too
21:43.49AckisWorkArrowmaster: I know but I was trying to touch on the "i used cart since cart1 and i ain't changin" :P
21:45.46TentacledArrowmaster: err... Waypointer behaves quite fine, actually, once the zone is in Tourist...
21:47.16TentacledMaybe the battleground type in there was risque, but it was a start, making it work nicely as far as I tested it.
21:47.31Arrowmasteri removed that
21:48.39NivFreakI really hate all the flashy autopan/autozoom shit that cart3 tries to do
21:48.46NivFreakenough that I dumped it
21:48.53NivFreakand am trying to use carbonite
21:48.56NivFreakwhich is buggy as fuck
21:49.06Arrowmastercarbonite does the same thing.....
21:49.14NivFreaknot really
21:49.16Arrowmasterdid they make carbonite free?
21:49.23NivFreakcarbonite quest is free
21:49.37Arrowmasterdoes that effect the map?
21:49.38TentacledArrowmaster: Can it be replaced with anything that works without breaking everything else? Or not, and that's the problem?
21:49.41NivFreakAckisWork: yes
21:50.04NivFreakalso, I dislike carbonite, but at least I don't get dizzy watching it pan/zoom every fucking time I open my map
21:50.28ArrowmasterTentacled: many people have completely droped cartographer2 and replaced it with other addons with an effective zero change of their interface
21:50.38Arrowmasterits fucking dead and useless
21:51.05StanzillaI think there is no addon for auto corpse waypointing with funny messages :P
21:51.07TorhalNivFreak: Carbonite's author needs to get a fucking clue. Table usage so bad that forcing a garbage cleanup drops 5-10 megs of RAM usage.
21:51.21NivFreakthe things I want out of a map mod 90% of the time: instance maps, waypoints, notes
21:51.23Arrowmasteroh yeah, thats the one missing thing
21:51.25FinArrowmaster: what have you replaced it with, if I can ask?
21:51.26Arrowmastercorpse point
21:51.32NivFreakTorhal: yea, it's garbage
21:51.48Finhaha, good one
21:51.51NivFreaknot to mention that it tries to take over most of your UI
21:51.55TentacledArrowmaster: yet hundreds of people use it, and dozens of addons rely on it. Is it declared discontinued?
21:52.08ckknightI dislike the obfuscation.
21:52.14ArrowmasterFin: Mapster, HandyNotes, TomTom, InstanceMaps, Cromulent
21:52.16TorhalTentacled: It's on community life-support, which IMHO is doing more harm than good.
21:52.19Findanke
21:52.25ArrowmasterTentacled: 0 addons rely on it
21:52.26ckknightCart2 is not discontinued. I'm planning on hacking on it soon
21:52.40Arrowmasterckknight: you never will and you know it
21:52.42Torhalckknight: I bet Arrowmaster just shit himself.
21:52.44TorhalHaha
21:52.48Stanzilla~soon
21:52.49purli guess soon is well before heat death, or http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon
21:52.50Stanzilla:P
21:52.57NivFreakoh, the other thing that I really loved with cart2, was the cartographer_data that someone was doing
21:52.58ckknightno, I have actual motivation now
21:53.11Arrowmasterckknight: why just because we say its dead?
21:53.14NivFreakwowhead export of notes to my map? yes please
21:53.16AckisWorklol
21:53.33AckisWorkNivFreak: gathermate_data
21:53.34ckknightArrowmaster: no, separate issue
21:53.36TentacledArrowmaster: QH?
21:53.47NivFreakAckisWork: yea, I've been planning to try that again
21:53.58TentacledOh yes, there's TomTom, but TomTom uses the standard huge-ass map.
21:53.59Arrowmasterckknight: it truely is doing a lot more harm right now trying to tell people it works than just killing it
21:54.00NivFreakI haven't tried mapster or tomtom
21:54.15NivFreakis Routes still standalone?
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21:54.24Stanzillayes
21:54.31TorhalTentacled: TomTom is for coordinates/waypoints only
21:54.34TorhalGet Mapster.
21:54.40Arrowmasterand when blizzard removes the global this event arg# vars cart2 is fucking dead
21:54.57Arrowmasternobody is going to be able to fix that
21:54.58ckknightand they won't do that until 4.0
21:55.02TentacledMapster has waypointing of its own?
21:55.04ckknightI think I have some time before then
21:55.05Arrowmasterits almost an entire rewrite just to fix that
21:55.15TentacledI mean, QH-compatible?
21:55.17TorhalNivFreak: Routes is still standalone.
21:55.24ArrowmasterTentacled: QH uses TomTom
21:55.46TentacledSo I'd have to switch one Cartographer2 for Mapster+TomTom+what else?
21:55.55Fisker-slaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout
21:55.59Arrowmasteri listed them all not long ago
21:56.05AckisWorkckknight: why fix cart2 when you're working with cart3? or is cart3 on the backburner now?
21:56.11JoshBorkewho wants to run multiple addons when you can run just one?
21:56.17TentacledNot preaching here, just considering alternatives, which don't seem sightly.
21:56.19ArrowmasterMapster, HandyNotes, TomTom, InstanceMaps, Cromulent, GatherMate, Routes
21:56.21NivFreakbecause cart3 sucks clearly
21:56.24Arrowmasterjust dont use the ones you dont want
21:56.24TentacledJoshBorke: my point.
21:56.31ckknightAckisWork: because with the upcoming author rewards system, Cartographer nets me a lot of points
21:56.31TorhalTentacled: Think of it as granular control. Instead of one huge fucking addon that walks your dog and washes your car, you can pick and choose.
21:56.33Finstarts working on getting properly drunk
21:56.38ckknightso I have motivation to keep it working
21:56.43Arrowmasterckknight.......
21:56.52NivFreaklol
21:56.58ckknight*thumbs up*
21:56.59JoshBorkehey, author rewards is a good motivator
21:57.01TentacledTorhal: However, with these being all managed by different people, any of those can become broken at any time.
21:57.01Xinhuani just rofled and choked on my wanton
21:57.04Arrowmasterckknight: fine then im adding myself to cartographer project for all the work ive done on it in the past
21:57.06AckisWorkgiggles at ckknight
21:57.08JoshBorkeXinhuan: lol
21:57.13ckknightArrowmaster: sounds good to me
21:57.15TorhalTentacled: Then find a replacement for the broken part.
21:57.16AckisWorkArrowmaster: he can assign you a 0 though :P
21:57.26Arrowmasterckknight: since if it wasnt for me it REALLY would be dead right now
21:57.38JoshBorkeTentacled: true, but the same could happen to any conglomorate mod also
21:57.38VexirAnyone
21:57.41Arrowmasterand nobody would be using it since it was completely broken
21:57.42ckknightand I'll be sure to give you a fair percentage for what you've done
21:57.47NivFreakwhat is Cromulent?
21:57.48Xinhuanno Arrowmaster, only about 10 different fan updates would have sprung up ;p
21:57.51Arrowmastersince you went MIA
21:57.58JoshBorkeXinhuan: quit lowballing
21:58.03ckknightXinhuan: very likely
21:58.07TorhalNivFreak: Cromulent == FuBar_RecZone
21:58.14Zhinjiowhy are curse employees allowed to participate in that, out of curiosity>?
21:58.19Xinhuanhey Josh_Borke, how's that a lowball :<
21:58.20ckknightbut that doesn't mean Arrowmaster's support isn't wanted or useful
21:58.23NivFreakTorhal: don't know it either :P
21:58.24ckknightZhinjio: absolutely.
21:58.36Zhinjioyou misread, ckk
21:58.39TorhalNivFreak: Basically shows a tooltip with recommended zones/instances for your level
21:58.42ckknightif not, I'd just quite curse and get a different job and net my author rewards points
21:58.42ckknightquit*
21:58.43ZhinjioI asked why
21:59.00ckknightoh
21:59.00Zhinjioheh
21:59.01NivFreakTorhal: ah
21:59.05ckknightbecause I and Kaelten made a bunch of addons
21:59.11ckknightand libraries
21:59.16ckknightwhy don't we deserve points?
21:59.21ckknightwe're not going to cheat
21:59.22JoshBorkewhy shouldn't they be allowed to participate?
21:59.24ckknightand we have oversight
21:59.31Zhinjioyou think thats going to be worth more than your salary at curse?
21:59.35Zhinjiothats... sad,somehow.
21:59.43ckknightno, it won't, by a long shot
21:59.45NivFreakArrowmaster: do any of those come with a pre-populated set of flightpoints? :)
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22:00.04ckknightbut I could get a different job _and_ get my author rewards points, that'd be more than working for curse now
22:00.06ArrowmasterNivFreak: handynotes has a plugin that does, but it doesnt have northrend yet afaik
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22:00.17ckknightso I'd prefer to keep the job I like here and get my points, everyone wins that way
22:00.21NivFreakArrowmaster: ouch =/
22:00.32KaeltenZhinjio: I'd rather be able to participate myself
22:00.36Kaelten:)
22:00.40ckknightwe haven't slipped in any Superman 3 stuff, btw
22:00.44ckknighteven if we wish we could
22:00.49NivFreakyou know
22:00.55AckisWorkKaelten: no points for you til onebank kk
22:00.56NivFreakit might not be bad for everyone, if you guys quit curse
22:00.57NivFreak:)
22:00.58ckknightsteals 1/1000th of a point from Zhinjio
22:01.10Arrowmasterckknight: still doing harm to perfectly good addons that work fine now to fix cartographer later, we have all agreed that the all-in-one design model sucks
22:01.11XinhuanKaelten already cheated, he has 9999999.999 points ;)
22:01.19Kaeltenmuhahaha
22:01.33ckknightArrowmaster: "you have all agreed"?
22:01.51ckknightlol, Xinhuan, I was just testing the max points of the system and how the admin view looks
22:01.58Arrowmasterhow many of the cart plugins are now dead?
22:02.06Xinhuan:D
22:02.08fewynok
22:02.25fewynanyone know how to get the minimap textures (like the terrian stuff) from the game files?
22:02.29Xinhuanhmm, well the cart_<profs> one are *officially* discontinued already
22:02.35ckknightfewyn: I do
22:02.36Arrowmastersame with routes
22:02.45Torhalckknight: Methinks you should LDB-ize FuBar if you wanna accumulate points from that as well.
22:02.49Xinhuanthe rest seems fine
22:02.51fewynckknight: ooo tell me please!
22:02.55ckknightTorhal: yea, I want to
22:02.56ArrowmasterTorhal: dont fucking tell him that
22:03.06Arrowmasterme and Xinhuan are going to write FuBar4
22:03.14fewynckknight: I need them for maps for dungeons/raids @ Allakhazam.
22:03.19TorhalArrowmaster: Then do it before he gets the motivation! :)
22:03.24ckknightyou can call it a different name if you want
22:03.24Arrowmasterbecause if he does it then it will include backwards compat
22:03.27Xinhuanyes me and Arrowmaster wants to steal curse points muahahaha
22:03.58ckknightfewyn: check how Cartographer or Cartographer3 does it. I include the scripts
22:04.05AckisWorkupdates the LICENSE.txt for FuBar4, calls it a Library Update and adds himself to the author list.
22:04.12fewynnonono i don't need it for an addon, i need it for out of the game
22:04.27Xinhuanckknight, few people understand how your script works ;p
22:04.32NivFreakcurse needs a voting system, if you get enough votes that your addons is broken/dead/sucks, it stops showing up in default search of the site and Client
22:04.35ckknightfewyn: yea, I know.
22:04.38NivFreak:)
22:04.42Xinhuanalthough i do heh
22:04.57fewyni'll just ninja SS from cart3 i think
22:04.57ckknightfewyn: check the scripts in Cart/Cart3
22:05.01fewynoh
22:05.02fewynok
22:05.14ckknightfewyn: outside of that, I can't really help you, since I'd be helping a competitor to wowdb
22:05.20fewynnod
22:05.27Xinhuani hate having to code workarounds for the DK starting zone though
22:05.27fewyni understand then
22:05.27NivFreakwowdb is boo
22:05.32Xinhuanits so crap
22:05.36ckknightalso, why don't you work with wowhead? aren't you owned by the same parent company?
22:05.42fewynWe are
22:05.51ckknightand they don't have the data for you?
22:05.54AckisWorkNivFreak: it would be nice to have a system to flag addons as "dead"
22:05.57fewynNien
22:05.59AckisWorkfewyn: do you know darkflame? :P
22:06.04ArrowmasterXinhuan: thats just because astrolabe doesnt have support for it right?
22:06.08fewynYes DF is one of my bosses =p
22:06.09NivFreakAckisWork: delete project works
22:06.20Xinhuannot sure Arrowmaster, i didn't check with essamyn
22:06.29AckisWorkXinhuan,NivFreak: wowdb is getting a lot better now that they updated for 3.0 stuff, although there are still a LOT of issues
22:06.36NivFreakhere's a good example of why wowdb is booo
22:06.38NivFreakhttp://www.wowdb.com/location.aspx?id=3456
22:06.40AckisWorkNivFreak: abandon works better
22:06.40ArrowmasterXinhuan: i didnt see info for it at all
22:06.50Xinhuanthen it probably doesn't
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22:07.18Arrowmasterwhich is why you are having to code workarounds
22:07.52Xinhuannot really, its more because of the GetCurrentMapContinent() etc code returning -1, 0
22:07.55Xinhuanfor C, Z
22:07.58fauxpas```hey everyone, is there a good alternative to numen? i've been using yata but it's just not the same :\
22:08.02Xinhuanfor that zone
22:08.04Xinhuanjust like BGs
22:08.10Xinhuanbut they aren't BGs, so i can't treat them like BGs
22:08.15AckisWorkfewyn: do you work in the same building as her or something?
22:08.18Xinhuanthat specific zone that is
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22:08.40Xinhuanhence it needed a specific if-then-else chunk
22:09.03Xinhuanask ck, he'll know all about it hehe
22:09.11Xinhuansame issue he encountered in cart3
22:09.28ArrowmasterXinhuan: well bgs have coords too so why not just allow coords in bgs?
22:09.32Arrowmasterer notes
22:09.41DarkAuditIs there another bank addon to try until OneBank returns?
22:09.46ckknightoh yea, Scarlet Enclave is a bitch
22:09.50ckknightno rebuttal there
22:09.56ckknighthey AckisWork, up for testing stuff?
22:09.59AckisWorkDarkAudit: just bug Kaelten about it
22:10.14AckisWorkckknight: I can't test local client stuff, but I can dick around with web stuff
22:10.14NivFreakDarkAudit: I switched from one* to combuctor
22:10.15Xinhuanthe problem is the zone detection, we used GetCurrentMapContinent/Zone to get the C/Z values to reverse lookup the zone name
22:10.22Kaeltenhuh?
22:10.26Kaelten~lart AckisWork
22:10.26purlstamps AckisWork on the forehead with the official Troll marker
22:10.29AckisWorklol
22:10.35ArrowmasterXinhuan: you should be using GetMapInfo() to get the texture name
22:10.45fauxpas```no numen replacement? :\
22:10.49Xinhuanit does that too
22:10.49fewynAckisWork: no we work from home
22:10.51Xinhuanyou need both
22:11.05NivFreakXinhuan: are you going to add northrend FPs to handmap_flightmasters?
22:11.10Xinhuanbecause GetMapInfo() returns nil for certain maps, but C,Z still returns -1, 0
22:11.11Arrowmasterwhy do you need the localized zone name?
22:11.18Arrowmasterwhat maps?
22:11.23XinhuanWorld map
22:11.50Xinhuanyou end up needing a combination of mapmapinfo, C and Z to determine exactly which map you are on
22:11.52ckknightAckisWork: yea, gonna do stuff on beta.wowace.net
22:12.03DarkAuditNivFreak, I'll give that a look. OneBag is lagging every time I mouse over an item... especially when milling
22:12.14AckisWorkckknight: sure just tell me what/when
22:12.23Xinhuanright now, i coded it such that notes for the DK zone will show up when you are viewing the DK zone
22:12.27ckknightk, will be a few minutes
22:12.34Arrowmasteractually you just need GetMapInfo() and your addon to be coded with the rest of the info already in it
22:12.35AckisWorkroger dodger bacon burger
22:12.37Xinhuanbut it wont' show on continentlevel because there isn't translation in astrolabe yet to translate up to continentlevel
22:13.15ckknightever see the movie Roger Dodger?
22:13.18ckknightI liked that movie
22:13.26AckisWorklol
22:14.09Xinhuanhandynotes uses this:
22:14.10Xinhuanlocal continent, zone = GetCurrentMapContinent(), GetCurrentMapZone()
22:14.11Xinhuanlocal mapFile = GetMapInfo() or self:GetMapFile(continent, zone) -- Fallback for "Cosmic" and "World"
22:14.29Xinhuanit uses GetMapInfo() where possible, if it returns nil, it falls back to C, Z lookup
22:15.28ckknightyea
22:15.34ckknightGetMapInfo() works in the scarlet enclave
22:16.22ArrowmasterXinhuan: do you know how Esamynn gets the info for the zone possitioning?
22:16.24XinhuanC, Z will return 0,0 for BGs, -1,0 for DK, -1,0 for Cosmic and 0,0 for World
22:16.28Xinhuanpretty retarded right?
22:16.44XinhuanGetMapInfo only returns nil for World/Cosmic though
22:16.59Arrowmasterthats weird
22:17.11Xinhuanhaven't tested in SotA yet
22:17.32Xinhuanshe mentioned she gets it from movement testing
22:17.39kadrahilso like
22:17.42TentacledXinhuan: actually, I wouldn't have DK area mapnotes viewable on the world map, ever... There's no point, since it all happens in some past and all.
22:17.42Xinhuanto a high accuracy
22:17.45kadrahilme and this pally are dueling
22:17.46Arrowmasterhmm
22:17.48Xinhuanso, it isn't actually data mined
22:17.49kadrahilin the dalaran sewers right
22:17.56kadrahiland for some reason neither one of us was giving up at 1% hp
22:18.00kadrahillike when we should have been
22:18.09kadrahilso we just stood there beating on each other for 30 minutes with both of us at 1%
22:18.12kadrahiler, 1 hp
22:18.17kadrahilmy ghoul also didn't die
22:18.18DarkAuditdeath to paladins... defile and burn the corpses of the rets
22:18.23kadrahilno this is a bug
22:18.26kadrahiland really funny
22:18.38AckisWorkno, you need to say: so like, this is, like a bug
22:19.07kadrahilAckisWork: shh
22:19.16AckisWorklike shhh dude
22:19.28kadrahil.
22:19.43kadrahilso i said like a couple of times too many during that anecdote
22:19.45kadrahilget off me ;)
22:20.10AckisWork:P
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22:24.16Xinhuanshould rename ackis's forum title to "lib update hero"
22:24.20Xinhuan:D
22:25.42TentacledRetLib Paladin!
22:27.22AckisWorklol
22:27.30Zhinjiogoddamn
22:27.44Zhinjioif I had a penny for every forum signup from a scriptbot...
22:28.07Tentacledfunny captchas ++
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22:28.40Repo- Fix runic power update for Deathknight
22:29.23AckisWorkZhinjio: been having issues with the dataminer (aka wowdb) so I haven't committed yet :(
22:30.02ZhinjioI'm in no hurry. it'll happen when it happens
22:30.45Repo10broker-tradecooldowns: 03Zhinjio * r16 / (2 files in 2 directories): - fixed stupid bug
22:30.50AckisWorkI have a detailed commit note that I want ot just change to: Lib Update, Dry-coded, Compiles with luac -p
22:31.25Repo10broker-tradecooldowns: 03Zhinjio 041.5-release * r17 : Tagging as 1.5-release
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22:31.45Fin[22:18:02] <kadrahil> so we just stood there beating on each other for 30 minutes with both of us at 1%
22:31.55Finread that as "stood there beating each other off" at first
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22:33.50AckisWorkhmm is it just me or do the proto-drakes look like dump?
22:33.57NivFreakI love the look
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22:34.12AckisWorkI think normal drakes > proto-drakes
22:34.22AckisWork(glad he had his drake as soon as 3.02 came out)
22:34.32NivFreakthe drakes up in the basin, with all the burning trees
22:34.41NivFreakthat's my favorite area that I saw in beta
22:34.56NivFreakI didn't see icecrown though, until last night\
22:35.12AckisWorkdragonblight has been my fav so far, looking forward to storm peaks (should get basin done tonight)
22:37.28Zhinjiockknight, Kaelten : wowace ticket browser is pretty borked up... are you aware?
22:37.35Zhinjiois that just low priority?
22:37.42Kaeltenlink to what you're talking about?
22:37.57Repo10guildmanager: 03ciscoh * r17 / (4 files in 2 directories): working on bug
22:38.10JoshBorke~lart Kaelten
22:38.10purldrops a humongous exploding nuke on Kaelten
22:38.17Kaelten~lart JoshBorke
22:38.17purlhurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at JoshBorke
22:38.17Zhinjiofor example: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/?filter_status=+
22:38.24Zhinjiosearch by assignee, pick Zhinjio
22:38.53Kaeltenbah
22:38.57Kaeltenno I wasn't aware
22:39.00Zhinjiopl
22:39.04Zhinjiook
22:39.10Kaeltenck is afk for a moment
22:39.18KaeltenI'll get him to look at it when he gets back
22:39.19ZhinjioI may have made a ticket for this already. I don't remember.
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22:42.30Lywellyn|afkI have to say.  Kaelten wins the lart war.
22:43.16ZhinjioKaelten: I'm sure its just some stupid typo or something. It looks like all the other filtering criteria work fine
22:43.22Repo10glassunitframes: 03h3nrym2 * r21 / (2 files in 1 directory): Pet Frame should now hide correctly when exiting vehicle.
22:43.22PrimerI wonder if there's a "points on a map" library...it seems something like this would be useful
22:43.35PrimerI guess Astrolabe?
22:43.35Kaeltenya it's likely something small
22:44.15Primeranswer my own question
22:45.09FinOBEY ME
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22:45.35RepoAckis Recipe List:
22:45.36Repo- Updated dataminer to account for more boss names.  If you're translating and see a mob name that is a boss, please let me know.
22:45.39Repo- Updated unknown zone and unknown faction info so fewer recipes will have those listed (if you see this for anything other than the darkmoon faire one, let me know please)
22:45.45Repo- Updated faction info to add some generic declarations.  For example, everything in Orgrimmar is considered
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22:48.52Repo-added minimap icon for when fubar and ace are not around
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22:51.22PrimerI guess what I was wondering earlier if there was a library that could manage points on a map. For example, if all addons that added points to a map used a library, addons could share that data more easily
22:51.27Primeror is this the case already?
22:52.22Primerand all addons could register with said library, and other addons could use their metadata
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22:52.44Primeras well as provide distance and bearing to the point, relative to the place
22:52.49Primers/place/player/
22:53.52Primerfor example, I'd like to be able to display handy notes and questhelper map points in my addon
22:54.02Primerwithout having to know how they implement points
22:54.59cladhaireyou could write a library that defines a representation
22:55.05cladhairebut the other stuff is far from trivial
22:55.15cladhaireand to do most of it requires more "bloat" than most addon developers would be interested in
22:55.21cladhairei.e. placing icons on the minimap is a difficult problem
22:55.25cladhaireplacing them on the world map is not.
22:55.47Primerdon't most addons use Astrolabe for that?
22:55.51cladhaireyes
22:55.52PrimerI know yours do
22:55.53cladhairebut that's my point
22:55.59cladhaireAlso the addons have different representations for the data they contain
22:56.05cladhairewhat precisely are you interested in having access to
22:56.15Primerpoints from other addons
22:56.15cladhairejust the zone/x/y triplet?
22:56.22Primerthat and metadata
22:56.23cladhaireor arbitrary data beyond that
22:56.27Primerlike questhelper's text
22:56.29cladhairewell the metadata is where things get difficult
22:56.39Primersure, each addon will have its own data
22:57.14PrimerI haven't looked into this, but I've run into problems where some addons make all their data private
22:57.19Primerdata/methods
22:57.27cladhairethen contact those authors
22:57.40cladhairethose who do stuff like that aren't likely to want to use a library like this, or the decision wasn't intentional
22:57.58cladhaireI don't know that a library (it feels like we write a library for everything) is the right way to go about things
22:58.09cladhairecommon representation.. absolutely
22:58.25KaeltenZhinjio: fixed
22:58.57PrimerThe only tricky part so far would be the data. Thing is, if that data were contained in a known structure, it's just a matter of knowing what you want
22:59.41cladhairethe probably with a library
22:59.43cladhairerather than a standard
22:59.44JaxonI think you might run into an issue tryign to get different developers donig things the same way then there are multiple addons for the same function because the addon developers wanted to do things their own way
22:59.46cladhaireis shit gets added
22:59.53PrimerAnyhow, I've been thinking of making such a library as my addon's waypoint implementation
22:59.54cladhaireshit that doesn't belong in the library
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23:00.06cladhairethat's why most of us wouldn't use something like that
23:00.23cladhaireWhere does it stop?
23:00.26cladhairea function to add waypoints?
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23:00.32cladhairethat can't really be done in a general enough way
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23:00.53PrimerI would use Astrolabe as a base, then wrap existing Astrolabe methods, and add a few more
23:00.58PrimerWhy not?
23:01.02cladhaireoh that would be a terrible idea
23:01.03cladhairebecause
23:01.08cladhaireevery addon needs different things
23:01.12Primersuch as?
23:01.33cladhaireI need my callback system
23:01.34cladhairefor one
23:01.50Primerno reason why that can't be passed along
23:01.59cladhairehuh?
23:02.09Primerto a library
23:02.11cladhaireHow can you write a sufficiently general AddWaypoint() function
23:02.15cladhairethat's what I don't understand
23:02.15cladhaire...
23:02.27Primerhours of tedious typing?
23:02.29cladhaireno
23:02.31cladhaireyou don't understand
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23:02.39cladhaireyou either end up implementing EVERYONE's features
23:02.43cladhaireor just a subset
23:02.47cladhaireeither way, its not a general solution
23:02.55cladhairethat's specifically why I phrased it that way
23:03.07Primerone would ideally implement all known features
23:03.12cladhairethat's a terrible idea.
23:03.18cladhaireI won't use it, for that reason alone
23:03.21Primerin your opinion
23:03.34Arrowmastermost people wouldnt use it for that reason
23:03.40cladhairewell, I'm an author that you're talking to.
23:03.47Primeryou guys are a tough crowd
23:03.50cladhaireTomTom does have quite a strong user base.. and I would not use a kitchen sink
23:04.01Xinhuanhave you noticed that routes and gathermate deliberately doesn't use libraries other than ace3?
23:04.02cladhaireNo, we're realistic
23:04.05cladhaireI'm not trying to shoot you down.. I'm trying to have a legitimate conversation
23:04.05Arrowmasterwe have learned from our mistakes
23:04.17Primercladhaire: I appreciate that
23:04.31cladhaireBut... we do know what we're talking about here.. and we ARE your target developer audience
23:04.39ArrowmasterXinhuan: you cant even use astrolabe for gathermate right?
23:04.39cladhaireso we shouldn't be pushed aside with "in your opinion"
23:04.57XinhuanArrowmaster: i could, but it contained stuff we didn't want to use as well
23:05.15Arrowmasteri thought it had some limit on icons
23:05.19cladhaireand I've thought about making a subset on Astrolabe
23:05.20Xinhuanthat too
23:05.38Primerok, so if I wanted to make use of existing map points, say, from TomTom and QuestHelper, I'd basically need to 1) see if that data is public, and if so 2) figure out the data structure and get the data myself?
23:05.50cladhairePrimer: or standardize it
23:05.54cladhaireI said I'm fine with that
23:05.57Primerstandardize the data
23:06.00Primernot the methods
23:06.00cladhaireYou take it too far tho, and I was clear about that.
23:06.04Xinhuanyou see, astrolabe contained a lot of things, most of which gathermate doesn't need ;p
23:06.38cladhaireSo I have an API to calculate the distance/bearing between two arbitrary points in the world, and a way to determine where a waypoint should be placed on the minimap, or any world map (including battlemap)
23:06.44cladhairethen I can decide when, where, why and how to place my waypoints.
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23:07.26cladhaireSomething that tries (and fails) to sufficiently generalize adding waypoints.. no thanks
23:07.34Primercladhaire: ok, let me take it a step further. Does TomTom implement this code in a manner that could be used OUTSIDE of TomTom?
23:07.39Xinhuan3 or 4 of my addons are capable of adding waypoints to tomtom, using tomtom's api
23:07.43cladhairePrimer: huh?
23:07.47cladhaireTomTom has an extremely rich API
23:07.51cladhaireso I don't understand the question.
23:08.04Xinhuanquesthelper also does it fyi
23:08.08Primercladhaire: I don't want to re-invent the wheel/cut and paste TomTom code into my addon if I don't have to
23:08.15cladhaireTomTom:AddWaypoint(), TomTom:AddZWaypoint()
23:08.25Primerexcept those become TomTom waypoints
23:08.30Xinhuanyou're not supposed to, ppl are supposed to install tomtom as a companion addon
23:08.37cladhaireDuh?>
23:08.40cladhaireI don't understand your point
23:08.44Xinhuanthus waypoints are external to your addon
23:08.56Jaxoncladhaire: I think he wants to use TomTom API to create his own waypoints
23:08.56chiperhe's not wanting to make tomtom show a point, he wants to tap into tomtom to give a different interface for where the waypoint is
23:09.04PrimerJaxon: I thought that was obvious
23:09.04cladhaireI suppose it would help if we understood what you were trying to actually accomplish..
23:09.11chiperprimer: right?
23:09.12Xinhuanno it wasn't, heh
23:09.12cladhaireYou can create your own waypoints
23:09.18cladhairehabve you even looked at the damn code?
23:09.28cladhaireOr any of the many addons that use the API?
23:09.28PrimerI have, briefly
23:09.35cladhairewell not enough.. clearly
23:09.40PrimerI wasn't aware that other addons used its API
23:09.40JaxonI think he wants to create PrimerWaypoints not TomTomWayPoints
23:09.45cladhairefunction TomTom:AddZWaypoint(c, z, x, y, desc, persistent, minimap, world, custom_callbacks, silent, crazy)
23:09.51cladhaireJaxon: yes.. I'm fully aware of that
23:09.52Arrowmasterwhy would you use tomtom to create your own waypoints?
23:09.54cladhaireand he's not paying attention
23:09.58cladhairea.) that dosn't make sense
23:10.02cladhaireb.) you can already do this.
23:10.04cladhaireso..
23:10.05Xinhuanquite a number of major addons use tomtom optionally, if tomtom is detected to be installed
23:10.13Primersuch as?
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23:10.17Arrowmaster.....
23:10.18PrimerI'd like to inspect their code
23:10.21Arrowmasterquesthelper
23:10.22JaxonTourGuide
23:10.23Xinhuancarbonite, questhelper, routes, gathermate, handynotes
23:10.25cladhaireWe've listed a ton
23:10.26cladhaireactually
23:10.26Xinhuantourguide
23:10.28Arrowmastera lot of Xinhuan's addons
23:10.30cladhairebut there are some more
23:10.33cladhaireor you could.. just ask me.
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23:10.35chiperprimer: is this for flighthud?
23:10.38Primersorry, must have missed that
23:10.48Primerchiper: it's my only addon :)
23:10.51Primerso, yes
23:10.52cladhaireWhy on EARTH are you using TomTom in the first place, if you don't want TomTom?
23:10.58cladhaireor even considering it
23:11.00chiperright, so you're not trying to make tomtom show a waypoint
23:11.02cladhairewhy would you not just use Astrolabe..
23:11.08Primercladhaire: I am displaying a waypoint in my HUD
23:11.14Primeras a dot
23:11.14chiperyou're trying to make flighthud show the tomtom information
23:11.22Primerthat floats in the HUD
23:11.29Primerand moves left/right as you pan right/left
23:11.33Xinhuanso why didn't you say that in the begining
23:11.37chiperhe did
23:11.39Xinhuanhe didn't
23:11.41cladhaireso you want to implement what GatherHud already does?
23:11.48Primerall you have to do is line up the mount with the point
23:11.48cladhaireWhat's different?
23:11.48Arrowmasterso you would either need to add your own api and get everybody to add support for your addon, or hook into tomtom if its detected
23:11.50JaxonOr SexyMap's HUD?
23:11.58chiperinfact, I remember him stating this desire months ago
23:11.58Xinhuan^
23:12.08PrimerI've never seen any of these 2 addons you've just mentioned
23:12.13cladhairechiper: well I wasn't here a month ago, and he didn't bring my addons up.
23:12.27cladhaireI'm here answering questions without getting much information (when I asked SPECIFICALLY) about what he is trying to accomplish
23:12.29cladhaireso forgive me.
23:12.45cladhaireIf you want to display TomTom's waypoints on your magical-superhero-HUD
23:12.51cladhaireyou need to give us an API and ask us to add support
23:12.55cladhaireor hook to add support yourself
23:12.57Primercladhaire: no need to demean my addon :(
23:12.59cladhaireits as simple as that, really
23:13.01Arrowmastergatherhud only works with gathermate points though right?
23:13.02cladhaireI'm not demeaning?
23:13.08cladhaireHow is "magical-superhero-HUD" demeaning?
23:13.11cladhaireI don' tknow what the fuck it's called
23:13.12Xinhuangatherhud only works with routes/gathermate
23:13.14cladhaireso I gave it a name :P
23:13.23Xinhuanbecause it taps into their databases directly
23:13.31Pneumatusdoes anyone know, is Guardian Spirit capped on the amount of HP it returns now?
23:13.46Xinhuanto make its own display
23:13.47cladhaireHere's the moral of the story.. a generalized API for adding waypoints isn't the solution :P
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23:13.56PrimerI should have made a video of the waypoint code that I had that worked
23:14.04Primerit'd be much easier to demonstrate
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23:14.14PrimerI'm not aware of any addon that does what I'm trying to do
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23:14.20PrimerSexyMap is just a minimap
23:14.39Primeryou have to point an arrow at a point at the edge of the circle...not entirely accurate
23:14.42Jaxonthe HUD Map is pretty awesome for gathering stuff.
23:14.46Xinhuansexymap has an option to create a 2nd minimap that is an overlay
23:14.51chiperyou want the point to show up on your declination line, correct?
23:14.52Arrowmasterhuh?
23:14.57Primerbut it's still an arrow with a map, right?
23:15.04Xinhuanand routes/gathermate has an API that allows us to reparent our stuff to the 2nd minimap
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23:15.14Xinhuanso it just works, like that, out of the box :)
23:15.37PrimerXinhuan: can you point me to a screenshot of GatherHud that shows this?
23:15.42Primerplease
23:15.51Xinhuanprimer, gatherhud has nothing to do with waypoints
23:16.10Xinhuanall it does is read gahtermate/routes's savedvariables, and display it in its own hud
23:16.36Primerwell, sexymap and gatherhud have been suggested as doing what I want already
23:16.38Primersexymap does not
23:16.48PrimerI still don't want to re-invent the wheel
23:16.49chiperprimer: if I remember FlightHud correctly, really all you're looking for is the radial of the point, and maybe a distance value, so you can plot them on your hud.
23:16.50clad|sleepsighs
23:16.59Primerchiper: I have this
23:17.01Xinhuanwhat you seem to want is to display waypoints added to tomtom in your hud? is that it?
23:17.05clad|sleepXinhuan: it appears you have my point of view in mind, so I'll leave this to you so I can go to sleep
23:17.08chiperoh... then what's the issue?
23:17.24Primerclad|sleep: I really appreciate your input :)
23:17.38PrimerXinhuan: that's one thing
23:17.41clad|sleepNo problem, you can always shoot me an email.. I'm around all the time :P
23:17.46Primerperhaps I should start anew
23:17.49Primerclad|sleep: thanks, man
23:18.25PrimerAllow me to introduce, FlightHUD: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/flight-hud.aspx
23:18.34PrimerThere's a video and screen shots on that page
23:19.07JaxonWere you just trying to avoid implmenting different solutions based on which notes/waypoints addon is being used while supporting the widest userbase as possible?
23:19.08Primermy addon implements an ugly ass green frame with some graphics that move. It looks like a fighter jet's Heads Up Display, shows pitch, compass heading, speed, etc
23:19.26PrimerJaxon: allow me to get to that in a few
23:19.28Xinhuani've seen it, you even asked me 200 questions about how to write it :)
23:20.00Primeranyhow, I've always wanted to add "waypoints". In one version, I actually had working waypoints. In fact, I think I need to tag that in svn
23:20.02Axodiousk, im having a weird bug which i believe is only affecting my wowace addons... it starts with my cowtip erroring with an appearance.lua error (which i dont have :() after that a ~6-7 addons (i believe all graphic related such as bartender, pitbull, etc) stop working and error with [c code] errors
23:20.18Axodiousi can fix it by restarting my game
23:20.25Axodiouser reloading ui*
23:20.34Arrowmasteryou should get the error message
23:20.44Axodiousyeah, bugsack cleared it when i reloaded
23:20.47PrimerI represent a waypoint as a dot in my HUD, and underneath it there is metadata which is "text that describes waypoint", distance, and bearing in degrees
23:20.53Axodiousi think its a memory usage error
23:21.04Xinhuanwell, so you copied parts of carto_waypoints code for it, i remember
23:21.24PrimerI can line up that point with a hash mark in my huh, and head straight to it, or I can position my mount until the bearing reads 0 degrees
23:21.29Axodiousi havent posted a ticket in the cowtip project cause im not quite sure if its cowtip or something else
23:21.34Primermeaning, I heading straight for it
23:21.45JaxonDoesn't Bugsack store errors between sessions?
23:21.46ArrowmasterAxodious: set bugsack to save errors then
23:21.57Axodious! did not know oyu can do that, will do Arrowmaster
23:21.58Arrowmasterit can Jaxon but its an option
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23:22.09Axodiousoooh
23:22.10Axodiousit is saved
23:22.11Axodioussec
23:22.21Arrowmastershould be a show all errors?
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23:22.25Xinhuannevcairiel, do you use any addon that uses that lib? heh
23:22.27Arrowmasterinstead of session errors
23:22.34nevcairielXinhuan: yeah LoggerHead :D
23:22.38PrimerMy goal, as Jaxon asks, is to integrate other addons' points into my HUD, as an option. If (TomTom) addTomTomPoints(), If (QuestHelper) ... etc
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23:22.49Xinhuano_O
23:22.53Xinhuansounds like overkill
23:23.01Xinhuanshould just use IsInInstance()
23:23.12Arrowmasterit uses it for options
23:23.13nevcairielIt uses it to configure which instantes to track
23:23.19nevcairielinstances*
23:23.20Xinhuanah
23:23.21PrimerI guess I lost everyone's attention...anyhow, it seems that the addons I'm mostly interested are TomTom based
23:23.35Primerso I guess I'll just stick with figuring out the TomTom API
23:23.41Xinhuanyou're missing the point i think primer
23:23.43clad|sleepWell TomTom doesn't have an API to export waypoints
23:23.58Xinhuanmost addons are standalone, they only OPTIONALLY support tomtom (i.e the addon works fine without tomtom)
23:24.00clad|sleepand the "other addons" you refer to wouldn't be accesible via any API
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23:24.09ArrowmasterPrimer: well with questhelper only one waypoint at a time is sent to tomtom afaik
23:24.11AxodiousArrowmaster: http://pastebin.ca/1261831
23:24.20Axodiousit wasnt showing the powa error on initial error
23:24.22Xinhuanmeaning, questhelper, for eg, would work fine by itself
23:24.24Axodiousafter cowtip it went ---
23:24.33Xinhuanbut it can optionally add a waypoint to tomtom to show you way to walk towards
23:24.54Xinhuanand that option will only show up if tomtom is installed
23:25.05Xinhuanit has nothing to do with "tomtom-based"
23:25.17PrimerI see
23:25.18ArrowmasterAxodious: im going to blame powerauras while i go take a look at its code
23:25.23Axodiousk
23:25.24Xinhuanin fact, our addons also detect to see if carto_waypoints is installed, and give the option to add a waypoint there
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23:25.33Axodiousany power aura replacements?
23:25.39Xinhuanof course, no sane person would install both at the same time
23:25.39Axodious(im kinda fond of flashy)
23:25.52PrimerAxodious: power auras is updated
23:25.54Arrowmasterwheres that power auras from?
23:25.59Primerunless that's not the reason you're asking
23:26.05Axodiousits not :)
23:26.11nevcairielhm
23:26.12Axodiouswowi Arrowmaster
23:26.14nevcairielWWS fails
23:26.16Xinhuanthat is to say, you can implement your own waypoint system in flighthud, and ask authors to detect your addon and optionally add waypoints in there
23:26.18Axodiousits called power auras classic
23:26.19nevcairielit breaks on 4H
23:26.42Pneumatusanyone know if grid has been updated to deal with people showing as ghosts when they release from naxx?
23:26.51PrimerXinhuan: it just seems odd to me that there are so many separate implementations of the same thing
23:27.40Primeri.e. waypoints
23:27.40Xinhuanthere's only 2 known implementations - carto_waypoints and tomtom
23:27.40Xinhuani haven't heard of a 3rd
23:27.40Primergranted, each has its own data, I concede that
23:27.40AxodiousArrowmaster: it MAY have something to do with weapon enchants in power auras i recently added checks for my windfury/flametongue enchants
23:27.40Axodiousbut im not sure if the errors started before/after
23:27.55Jaxonnevcairiel: I don't know about your guild, but we aren't going to be using WWS anymore, switching to http://code.google.com/p/stasiscl/
23:28.01Xinhuansimilarly, there are only 3 addons right now that track gathering nodes - gatherer, carto_<profs> (discontinued) and gathermate
23:28.20Xinhuanthere are addons that tap into these databases (some of the 3, or even all 3)
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23:28.26Arrowmasterwtf
23:28.30Arrowmaster.....
23:28.33PrimerXinhuan: right
23:28.35Arrowmaster2.5.9a....
23:28.41AckisWorkArrowmaster: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/lightheaded/ HAHAHAHAH
23:29.11Arrowmaster"awsome quest assistant goes great with questhelper includes notes on qeusts and coords "
23:29.11LywellynAckisWork:  wth?
23:29.25PrimerXinhuan: I'm actually looking at handynotes for what I'm doing
23:29.33Primerin fact, I pulled a bunch of code from it
23:29.39PrimerI credit you, of course :)
23:29.46Xinhuani hope you understand what you're pulling
23:29.58clad|sleepAckisWork: Arrowmaster: hehe
23:30.00ArrowmasterAckisWork: you deleting it?
23:30.02Primerall I've pulled so far is the dialog window for adding a point
23:30.12AckisWorkArrowmaster: yes
23:30.16Brunerswhat is the correct color for runic power?
23:30.20AckisWorkclad|sleep: damnit you're supposed to be asleep
23:30.24JaxonAckisWork: I get a 403 on that page, what amusing thing am I missing :(
23:30.35LywellynJaxon: I was wondering the same thing
23:30.38clad|sleepyeh yeh
23:30.40clad|sleepgoing to sleep now :P
23:31.15ArrowmasterAxodious: are you sure you have the 2.5.9a version of powerauras from wowi?
23:31.23Xinhuanhmm i should get Kaelten to give me curseforge admin, so i can see stuff too ;p
23:32.18ArrowmasterAxodious: i downloaded it to look at the code and the line numbers do not match up at all, infact the one i got has atleast half the line count
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23:33.25Axodioushm
23:33.27Axodioussec
23:33.31Arrowmasterand holy shit this is bad
23:33.39Axodiousim using 2.5.9a yes
23:33.40Arrowmasterglobals everywhere
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23:38.13PrimerIn my code I use IsFlying(), but IsFlying() only returns true if my mount is actually in the air. Is there a function that shows that I'm mounted on a flying mount? Other than looking at all possible buffs for a match to a flying mount using libperiodictable?
23:40.23Axodiouslol after reading the error for power auras i can almost guarentee its my weapon enchants
23:40.28Axodiousi deleted them for now
23:41.02Arrowmasteryeah that code is bad
23:41.20Findreams of electric sheep
23:41.38Lywellyndreams of sheep on an electric fence
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23:42.18Lywellynin any case, penguin > turtle > pig > sheep.
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23:43.35Primerwhat about black cat?
23:43.45Gnarfozcat > all
23:43.47Arrowmasterthe tooltip its using for scanning, Powa_Tooltip, inherits GameTooltipTemplate, which is probably why CowTip is trying to modify it
23:43.52Lywellyncat?
23:44.01PrimerLywellyn: black cat, yes
23:44.05Primeryou buy it in Dalaran
23:44.08Primer2500g
23:44.09LywellynWHAT
23:44.09Primer~
23:44.17Primervendor
23:44.17Primermage shop
23:44.21Gnarfozhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=44709 .
23:44.23LywellynNO WAI.
23:44.29PrimerYAH WAI
23:44.57GnarfozTransforms the enemy into a harmless black cat, forcing it to pussyfoot around for up to 50 sec.  
23:45.00Gnarfoz:P
23:45.28Axodious<Arrowmaster> yeah that code is bad <- wish there was something of equiv/better that wasnt disc. & recontinued
23:45.31LywellynSon of a bitch.  I hope it's easier to get money at 80....Jesus.  With that three-person mount at damn near 20k, now this. ;_;
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23:46.37Gnarfozit was easy to get money at 70
23:46.42Gnarfozhow much more easy does it have to be :D
23:47.03LywellynIt took me forever to finally get 5k.  'course, that was before I was doing the Netherwing dailies, I think.
23:47.07PrimerLywellyn: that's a limited supply item, btw
23:47.19Gnarfozyou taking forever doesn't mean it's not easy. :p
23:47.36LywellynGnarfoz:  away with you, demon. :p
23:47.55Gnarfoz/etc/init.d/Gnarfoz stop
23:48.02Gnarfoz:X
23:48.19Megalonkill -9 Gnarfoz
23:48.26Primerkillall
23:48.28Gnarfozoh noes :O
23:48.31Gnarfoz-15 plx
23:48.43Gnarfozbe nice :P
23:49.05Primerrenice -n -10 `pidof Ganrfoz`
23:49.33*** join/#wowace fauxpas (n=faux@dslc-082-082-081-069.pools.arcor-ip.net)
23:49.44Kody-Oh... black cat polymorph book, http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=44709 -- check out the tabs :P
23:50.29Xinhuan"check out the tabs" <-- whats there to see?
23:50.30Lywellyn63 people? wow.
23:51.04Kody-Hm, you don't see the "Recently Acquired By" tab, Xinhuan?
23:51.08Xinhuanno
23:51.12LywellynI do
23:51.14Gnarfozuseless statistic :O
23:51.18Gnarfozwhy do you even gather that
23:51.20ArrowmasterKody-: you should get me in contact with somebody that can run a db query for me on wowdb
23:51.21Xinhuani only see Sold By, Comments and Screenshot
23:51.40Kody-Gnarfoz: It's just the same data as the looted info on character profiles
23:51.44Xinhuanalso it can't be a caching issue on my end since this is actually the first time i've visited wowdb in about a month ;p
23:51.53Lywellynthat's probably why I didn't see her at first. s he's a mobile NPC.
23:52.00Kody-Xinhuan: Try hard refreshing it
23:52.06Kody-I actually didn't see them until I did
23:52.13Xinhuanrefreshing it worked
23:52.23GnarfozKody-: sure, but I don't want to show up there. including guild name, character name and even time :O
23:52.32Xinhuanwhy the refresh is required is odd though
23:52.34Gnarfoz(that's why I don't run curseprofiler, but you get my point)
23:53.01ArrowmasterAxodious: so you were getting that error perty consistantly?
23:53.07Kody-Gnarfoz: it was a popular feature on WarDB, but yeah I think it should be something you can opt out of
23:53.08Xinhuansee, i don't understand why non-mages bought it ;p
23:53.13Xinhuanunless its for their main mage alt
23:53.22Kody-Probably their alt, or to game the AH
23:53.22LywellynXinhuan: AH.
23:53.23GnarfozXinhuan: ripping of stupid people on the AH :p
23:53.30JaxonI'd enver been to WoWDB on this computer before today and I had to hard refresh it, that doesn't make any sense.
23:53.36Xinhuanfor 2500g it'll be pretty hard to rip
23:54.25*** join/#wowace Godzmack- (n=Godzmack@85-220-7-216.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is)
23:54.31Kody-Also added Worn By and Crafted By tabs: http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=42508#craftedby
23:54.32LywellynSo anyone on Silver Hand have a few gees they're willing to part with? >.>
23:54.43Kody-Crafted By is probably another one that needs an opt out
23:55.07Xinhuani think that's a bit stretching it isn't it
23:55.18Xinhuanparticualrly since people can switch professions
23:55.37Arrowmasterrofl
23:55.46Arrowmastertheres a deathknight listed on there
23:55.48Kody-Hrm good point, I need to find out how that list is maintained
23:56.04Kody-wow
23:56.11Kody-Poor guy
23:56.38Xinhuannoobs
23:56.59Arrowmaster3 dks and a rogue in the first 50
23:57.07Arrowmastergota be bugged
23:57.25Arrowmastera warlock in the 2nd 50
23:57.27Xinhuanarmory them
23:57.30Xinhuando they really exist?
23:57.36Xinhuanare they really DKs?
23:57.55*** join/#wowace Hjalte (n=chatzill@62.242.38.50)
23:58.41LywellynWoWDB says my spec is "Arcane Fire PvP"....what the hell?
23:59.01Arrowmasterrofl
23:59.03Repo10dr-damage: 03kouik 06dkclone * r711 Data/DeathKnight.lua:  (Message trimmed by 7 lines)
23:59.03RepoA lot of unholy love with as guest stars :
23:59.04Repo-Cleaned up things for diseases detection.
23:59.05RepoCrypt fever added (ebon plaguerider will follow, but I don't want to respec each time, I need to finish tests before ;) )
23:59.07Arrowmasterthe warlock on the 2nd page
23:59.09Arrowmasterhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Akama&n=Freezepop
23:59.11Repo- Rage of Rivendare
23:59.37HjalteI remember an addon being able to announce when someone got a specific debuff, anyone remembers what it is called?
23:59.38Arrowmastermust have used it for get a skillpoint or something
23:59.50JaxonOr a guildmate
23:59.52Arrowmasterbut still thats kinda silly
23:59.52JaxonOr to sell

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