00:00.41 | Kolie | Don't think a dcc is going to work. |
00:00.43 | Hirsute | If you can accept DCC file transfers, I've just attempted to send one to you. |
00:00.44 | Kolie | NAT and all. |
00:00.52 | Hirsute | Aaah. |
00:00.57 | Hirsute | Okay. Let's see. |
00:01.09 | Kolie | jennen@curse.com is my email. Pasties are cool too. |
00:01.34 | Hirsute | I'd pasty, but I can't copy the text out of that window, that I know of. |
00:02.47 | Grum | lol all those bosses in Naxx 10 ... |
00:02.55 | Grum | bloody millions of hitpoints :D |
00:05.22 | Hirsute | Kolie: emailed. |
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00:06.01 | Hirsute | Or... here, this will work too: http://home.utah.edu/~dnb5/callstack.JPG |
00:07.13 | Hirsute | Heh. But still two installations being detected. |
00:07.19 | Hirsute | Maybe next build. |
00:09.04 | Hirsute | Hey, I didn't get the thread lock this time, but it didn't detect any addons either. |
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00:12.48 | Hirsute | Oh, hey, I think I figured something out... Kolie: If both those keys you mentioned were there, it'll detect two installations even if both InstallPath's point to the same place, won't it? |
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00:13.38 | Repo | 10grind-status: 03Dridzt * r123 embeds.xml: - libs toc(-), embeds.xml(+) |
00:15.35 | Repo | 10grind-status: 03Dridzt * r124 modules (2 files in 1 directory): - Northrend faction modules |
00:16.01 | Arrowmaster | they removed the menethil auberdine boat right? |
00:16.03 | Pneumatus | ~wowalert |
00:16.04 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
00:16.16 | SunTsu | Arrowmaster: Yeah, SW <-> Auberdine |
00:17.00 | Arrowmaster | did they add another boat to menethril? |
00:17.12 | Dashkal | Arrowmaster: Menethil is Theramore and Howling Fjord |
00:17.22 | SunTsu | Arrowmaster: fjords <-> Menethil |
00:17.27 | Arrowmaster | ah |
00:18.20 | Grum | hehe massive thadius fail :P |
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00:23.52 | Kuja^ | hah ackis is here just before i want to head to bed, thats timing |
00:23.56 | Kuja^ | seen my memo? |
00:24.10 | Ackis | not yet |
00:24.33 | Repo | 10grind-status: 03Dridzt * r125 / (3 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
00:24.34 | Repo | - click handlers |
00:24.35 | Repo | - missing lib added to .pkgmeta |
00:24.36 | Repo | - Northrend neutral and faction modules added |
00:24.40 | Repo | - libs removed from .toc and added to embeds.xml and library load order fixed |
00:27.05 | Hirsute | Kolie: FYI, it looks like my persistent-two-installs problem was with some registry keys that the CC created, but didn't get removed. I deleted the CC registry keys entirely and reinstalled, and live was happy. |
00:27.17 | Hirsute | Though I still get the thread lock |
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00:32.10 | NivFreak | can you despawn kalecgos and go to bruatlus? |
00:32.22 | Tuller | nevcairiel: so did people start reporting the possess/vehicle bar stuff for you before you made the actionbarbutton switch? |
00:37.01 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1093 ARLFrame.lua: Fix frame strata issue with the scan button. |
00:38.49 | Ackis | asked my gf to login after server reset to do a quest that's bugged... she was "too busy" doing fucking nothing |
00:40.06 | Hirsute | Who names their son "Nothing"? |
00:40.12 | Hirsute | >_> |
00:40.15 | Hirsute | <_< |
00:41.09 | Ackis | hah |
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00:41.55 | Kemayo_ | clad|sleep: I'm pseudo-around, at times. I just don't have a WoW subscription now, so I can't test any changes that might need to be made. |
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00:58.59 | Gngsk | Xinhuan, ping |
01:04.31 | Parnic | can a mod please deal with this guy? http://wow.curse.com/members/unblack/announcements/default.aspx?ProfileMessageID=c0ff74cd-5f0a-45de-be8e-efd4c9e3676c |
01:04.47 | Parnic | he's posted that message in addition to posting THIS IS A KEYLOGGER on a whole slew of addon pages |
01:05.13 | Parnic | i reported his post to my mod last night |
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01:14.24 | linear` | is there an api for libbars anywhere |
01:15.59 | Quaiche | Parnic: That idiot is persisting eh? |
01:17.03 | Quaiche | Kaelten: You see the link Parnic posted? |
01:21.20 | ulic | linear`: not really, I think I just kinda read through the code, also I think libbars has a sort of test/example addon, if not there is on on wowace.com sommeplace, maybe look at antiarc's projects |
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01:22.54 | Groktar | licks you |
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01:26.39 | RaydenUni | how do i prevent shift-scrolling from changing my action bars? |
01:28.37 | Jygga | argh is there some /eject or sth to get out of a vehicle? |
01:28.52 | Megalon | RaydenUni: unbinding it from 'prev/next action bar'? :P |
01:30.07 | Megalon | Jygga: tried /script VehicleExit() ? |
01:30.21 | Jygga | nope :) |
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01:46.21 | NivFreak | so base weapon/defense skills are 400 at 80, correct? |
01:47.20 | ulic | should be |
01:47.27 | ulic | was 350 and it's 5 a level iirc |
01:47.37 | pompy | yes 400 |
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01:48.38 | NivFreak | and why can't I find a conversion for def rating to def skill @80 |
01:49.23 | NivFreak | here we go |
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01:50.08 | RaydenUni | how are gems transitioning to lvl80? |
01:50.15 | RaydenUni | i have a purple +15sta gem |
01:50.16 | NivFreak | 2x |
01:50.22 | RaydenUni | how does this compare to lvl 80 gems, green, blue, purple |
01:50.23 | NivFreak | there are 30sta epic gems |
01:50.36 | RaydenUni | like will a green gem replace that purple? |
01:51.17 | NivFreak | yep |
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01:52.20 | RaydenUni | gems don't really go up with level... |
01:52.32 | RaydenUni | so are there just new raw pre-cuts? |
01:52.38 | NivFreak | eh? |
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01:53.02 | NivFreak | uncommon gems from northrend, are exactly the same stats as the epics from TBC |
01:53.15 | NivFreak | there are perfect cuts from uncommon gems that surpass them |
01:53.20 | NivFreak | as well as blues and epics |
01:53.49 | RaydenUni | perfect cuts are a new wrath thing? |
01:55.11 | Megalon | NivFreak: uncommon gems from northred > epic gems from outland |
01:56.05 | Megalon | e.g. 14sp, 12str/agi, 24ap on red ones (normals, perfect cuts even better) |
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02:01.03 | NivFreak | Megalon: wow, you're right, not sure why that was in my head |
02:01.18 | NivFreak | just stats * 2 |
02:01.19 | NivFreak | from tbc |
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02:07.55 | Repo | 10guildmanager: 03ciscoh * r10 / (6 files in 2 directories): new file loading |
02:08.59 | Repo | 10guildmanager: 03ciscoh * r11 Alpha0.0.0001/: test package |
02:12.33 | Repo | 10guildmanager: 03ciscoh * r12 Alpha0.0.0001a/: re-package |
02:14.22 | Repo | 10spell-reminder: 03oridan * r182 core.lua: SpellReminder: |
02:14.23 | Repo | - fix performance issue |
02:19.15 | Repo | 10guildmanager: 03ciscoh * r13 Beta0.0.0001/: testing beta pkg |
02:21.59 | Repo | 10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03next96 * r134 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Zone-3.0 : |
02:21.59 | Repo | - "Plaguelands: The Scarlet Enclave" koKR update |
02:22.48 | Repo | 10guildmanager: 03ciscoh * r14 / (2 files in 2 directories): another test |
02:23.05 | ulic | well at least it's tested :) |
02:23.43 | Repo | 10guildmanager: 03ciscoh * r15 Alpha0.0.0001c/: test package |
02:29.15 | Repo | 10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03next96 * r135 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Zone-3.0 : |
02:29.15 | Repo | - more koKR update |
02:29.35 | Repo | 10libtourist-3-0: 03sinepi * r67 LibTourist-3.0.lua: |
02:29.36 | Repo | Updated yard measurements for Scarlet Enclave. Dummy and/or eye-measured, but functioning. |
02:35.21 | Xinhuan | Gngsk: pong |
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02:39.56 | orionshock | ok, between running wow on linux, HandyNotes, Cart3, and TomTom i have lost the ability to click on the world map to set a tomtom waypoint |
02:40.00 | orionshock | any ideas? |
02:40.05 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: if you want to mine more (dunno how much more is actually in there), you can find my most recent itemcache.wdb at the same address as yesterday |
02:40.31 | Arrowmaster | k |
02:40.45 | Arrowmaster | trying to figure out how i broke tourist while trying to update it |
02:41.15 | Gnarfoz | ;> |
02:41.25 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: damn, did you see how many libs DurabilityFu uses while you were touching it for 3.0? :O insane |
02:43.53 | Arrowmaster | either the image on my lcd is shaking or i am |
02:48.00 | Loonacy | I told you not to take that meth. |
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03:12.10 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r45 / (40 files in 3 directories): Update for Zones and Zone fixes |
03:12.11 | Repo | Many other fixes and additions. |
03:13.12 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.1.6 * r46 : Tagging as 2.1.6 |
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03:14.45 | orionshock | ? |
03:14.48 | Kivin | Is the 2008/10/16 version of Pitbull on Curse the latest? it's throwing mega errors for DKs |
03:15.06 | Kivin | health and power bars wont work |
03:15.11 | orionshock | just got a message from lightheadded clad|sleep, to disable Ace2? performance impact problem? |
03:16.52 | Kivin | .\AddOns\PitBull_PowerBar\PowerBar.lua line 342: |
03:16.53 | Kivin | <PROTECTED> |
03:16.55 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03Xinhuan * r595 Constants.lua: Remove wrath comment tags. |
03:16.56 | Repo | Comment out Constrictor Grass and Deadnettle which drop from other herbs (similar to Swiftthistle). |
03:16.57 | Repo | Add Rich Cobalt/Saronite rare-to-normal node mapping. |
03:24.50 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r47 locales/localization.lua: Fix small error on menu. |
03:25.25 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r48 RaidTracker.toc: Fix small error on menu. |
03:26.19 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.1.7 * r49 : Tagging as 2.1.7 |
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03:28.41 | Groktar | explodes near you |
03:30.36 | Grum | 10m Naxx is cool :D |
03:36.17 | Repo | 10equivalence-points: 03Pericles * r52 / (7 files in 2 directories): EquivalencePoints: |
03:36.17 | Repo | - Consolidated all patch 3.0 stats eg: Spell Dmg & Healing now Spellpower etc. |
03:36.18 | Repo | Added new templates from http://www.lootrank.com/wow/templates.asp |
03:36.20 | Repo | So you should now be able to get most basic values for most specs. |
03:37.56 | Repo | 10equivalence-points: 03Pericles 04v2.2 * r53 : EquivalencePoints: |
03:37.57 | Repo | - Release version 2.2 to Curse.com |
03:38.35 | Mikk | urhm wha disable Ace2? |
03:38.40 | Mikk | performance problem? |
03:38.50 | Mikk | groks not |
03:39.46 | Mikk | ~wowalerts |
03:39.47 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
03:39.51 | Mikk | ~wowalert |
03:39.52 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
03:45.06 | Zhinjio | Buh. |
03:45.08 | Tentacled | Hmm. How often, if that's how it's done, are WoWace projects synced with curseforge? I've tinkered with two libs and hoped for the fixes to come up already... |
03:45.49 | Zhinjio | Tentacled: did you retag them for beta or release? |
03:46.21 | Tentacled | I must admit this question puzzles me, as it exceeds my comprehension of the subject. |
03:46.45 | Tentacled | I apparently need to read up on tagging. |
03:46.52 | Zhinjio | I would argue that if thats true, you're probably not supposed to be "tinkering with libs" |
03:46.55 | Zhinjio | grins. |
03:47.32 | Tentacled | So far I just committed two (ckknight approved) additions to LibBabble-Zone and LibTourist. What else should I have taken care of? |
03:48.01 | Zhinjio | the difference is that a normal commit only rebuilds as "alpha" |
03:48.20 | Zhinjio | alphas are not pushed out, or available tot eh curse client |
03:48.42 | Zhinjio | s/tot eh/to the/ |
03:48.51 | Tentacled | I assume tagging as beta/release should in most cases be left to the project manager, yes? |
03:49.05 | Zhinjio | as a general rule, I would say yes. |
03:50.28 | Tentacled | So the route I should now take would probably be asking ckknight to verify my changes and retag, if he so deems appropriate? |
03:51.21 | Zhinjio | correct |
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04:04.01 | Zhinjio | Antiarc: ping |
04:06.06 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r45 / (3 files in 3 directories): -- More quest items |
04:06.28 | Arrowmaster | Tentacled: dont |
04:06.35 | Arrowmaster | theres more changes to tourist incoming |
04:07.03 | Lukian | giggles at Tentacled |
04:07.41 | Tentacled | All I did was add one zones[...] entry. I can surely re-add it, if it proves necessary, or something. |
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04:09.03 | Lukian | your nickname gives me pretty images! |
04:09.21 | Tentacled | At your service, I guess. :) |
04:09.37 | Tentacled | But, really, it's your mind giving you those. ;P |
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04:16.51 | Arrowmaster | Tentacled: did you really need 'type = "Battleground",' in tourist? |
04:17.08 | Tentacled | ckknight's suggestion. |
04:17.19 | Arrowmaster | well yeah treating it like one |
04:17.28 | Arrowmaster | but actually calling it one is going to break far more things i think |
04:18.14 | Tentacled | So I feared, but took ckk's words literally. |
04:19.11 | Tentacled | There isn't any type meaning "off-world zone"... :) |
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04:27.06 | Repo | 10recount2: 03Cryect * r169 / (4 files in 2 directories): Recount2: |
04:27.07 | Repo | -Updates for 3.0 |
04:47.26 | Repo | 10guildmanager: 03ciscoh * r16 / (6 files in 2 directories): UTF8 asserted |
04:53.46 | Xinhuan | Tekkub, update HoverTips for glyphs (linked from glpyh interface) gogo |
04:54.04 | Tekkub | actually just logged on to poke at that |
04:54.11 | Xinhuan | heh |
04:55.14 | Tekkub | too bad you can't compare item glyphs to what you have |
04:55.25 | Xinhuan | because...? |
04:55.39 | Tekkub | then you could shop for glyphs like you can items? |
04:56.12 | Xinhuan | i mean, why can't you pop up 3 hoverlinks for the 3 currently equipped glpyhs |
04:56.30 | Tekkub | I mean blizzy's API |
04:56.36 | Xinhuan | ah |
04:56.37 | Tekkub | I could probably do it by hand, sure |
04:56.52 | Arrowmaster | but then the mod wouldnt be so simple |
04:57.03 | Xinhuan | blizz's shoping tooltip comes with 2 |
04:57.09 | Xinhuan | so showing the 3rd is probably difficult |
04:57.49 | Arrowmaster | so which is lower level? halls of lightning or halls of stone? |
04:58.35 | Xinhuan | hey arrow, have you actually received any of the blizzcon mounts yet |
04:58.46 | Xinhuan | no news in aus of them yet |
04:58.51 | Arrowmaster | i got one |
04:59.02 | Xinhuan | hmm that's pretty fast |
04:59.10 | Arrowmaster | just got it recently |
05:00.06 | quiescens | hmm |
05:00.31 | Arrowmaster | so anybody know which is lower level? halls of lightning or halls of stone? |
05:00.36 | quiescens | something is making questhelper show its tooltip twice |
05:00.39 | quiescens | odd |
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05:08.08 | Repo | 10libtourist-3-0: 03Arrowmaster * r68 LibTourist-3.0.lua: |
05:08.09 | Repo | Add transportation routes and pathing information to Northrend (may not be accurate) |
05:08.10 | Repo | Remove Champions' Hall and Hall of Legends |
05:08.11 | Repo | Changed zone and instance level ranges to match info found at www.worldofwarcraft.com/info |
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05:16.47 | pompy | Arrowmaster: Halls of Stone is lower |
05:16.51 | pompy | 77-79 |
05:16.55 | pompy | Lightning is 80 |
05:17.12 | Arrowmaster | well shit |
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05:20.02 | Repo | 10libtourist-3-0: 03Arrowmaster * r69 LibTourist-3.0.lua: |
05:20.03 | Repo | Stupid Blizzard map of Northrend showing Halls of Lightning being lower level than Halls of Stone |
05:20.32 | doom0r | grind-status didn't push to the wowace projects page or curse |
05:21.53 | Arrowmaster | its already out of the packager status page |
05:21.57 | Arrowmaster | so no clue |
05:22.55 | Arrowmaster | hmm 500 error trying to manually add it to the queue |
05:31.35 | Torhal | Toadkiller: pingage |
05:36.49 | Ackis | I LIKE PENIS |
05:37.03 | Torhal | Ackis: I thought it was Pen15 |
05:37.14 | Ackis | uhhh damn cat? |
05:37.19 | Torhal | Heh |
05:39.53 | Torhal | Sleepage. |
05:42.55 | doom0r | wts bar addiction freedom potions |
05:43.11 | doom0r | everything in the world doesn't need to come in bar form |
05:43.54 | doom0r | anyways.... |
05:44.20 | Loonacy | doom0r: I disagree. |
05:44.34 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: the packager stuff is a "known" bug |
05:44.43 | doom0r | Cryect: could you add a little more to the description for Recount2? it's quite confusing vs Recount to many it seems |
05:45.14 | doom0r | Loonacy: which? |
05:45.25 | Loonacy | Everything should be a bar. |
05:45.36 | doom0r | well, not in wow |
05:45.54 | Loonacy | Autobar, Fubar, Bartender, CooldownBars, heck let's turn the minimap into a bar! |
05:46.19 | doom0r | i don't see why people make AddonThatDoesSomethingThat20OthersDo-NowInABarMakingItHorrible |
05:46.23 | Ackis | hahah |
05:46.25 | Loonacy | There could be a mod that turns all the empty space in the screen into a bar, and it could be called BarNone. |
05:46.27 | Ackis | my deathknight: DarthAckis |
05:46.39 | doom0r | Loonacy: there is a compass plugin for fubar ;x |
05:46.41 | clad|sleep | DeathSquid is mine :P |
05:47.12 | doom0r | I have two |
05:47.20 | doom0r | Gnightofdoom and Runedthegame |
05:47.30 | doom0r | :P |
05:48.06 | doom0r | i'm hessitant to the play the second as I think i'll be dropped to the char screen with a 10days to change name text |
05:48.36 | doom0r | although some of the stuff that passes is horrible |
05:50.30 | Arrowmaster | i wanted to make a female human deathknight with pale skin white hair named claire and only use 2hd swords but the name was taken on the only server i would roll alliance on, and none of you got the reference |
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05:56.38 | doom0r | sword of the new world? |
05:59.13 | doom0r | o wait |
05:59.13 | doom0r | you like anime don't you |
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06:04.03 | doom0r | Arrowmaster: Claymore? |
06:05.15 | Arrowmaster | wow you got it |
06:05.26 | Arrowmaster | but the manga is so much better |
06:05.48 | doom0r | Arrowmaster: google winz0rz teh intertubes |
06:05.57 | Arrowmaster | pff |
06:05.59 | Arrowmaster | cheater |
06:06.10 | doom0r | although it's not directly noticable, i know teh search0rz |
06:06.21 | doom0r | and i remember you talking bout anime |
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06:07.07 | doom0r | animesuki has an entire forum for it |
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06:46.20 | RaydenUni | what do you guys think about this |
06:46.31 | RaydenUni | when the scourge attacked orgrimmar and stormwind they took it over |
06:46.33 | RaydenUni | completely |
06:46.45 | doom0r | No, sir. I don't like it. |
06:46.53 | RaydenUni | each faction, on each server has to do northrend dailies to retake it |
06:47.01 | RaydenUni | unlocking pieces of the city at a time |
06:47.52 | Xinhuan | why does that sound like sunwell isle |
06:48.07 | RaydenUni | cause that's where i took the dailies idea from |
06:48.13 | RaydenUni | you could instead base it on raid progression |
06:48.24 | RaydenUni | after a % of the server has killed certain raids it goes back |
06:48.27 | RaydenUni | but that's much less inclusive |
06:48.46 | Xinhuan | sounds like a really bad idea |
06:48.51 | Xinhuan | especially locking out leveling newbies |
06:48.54 | Xinhuan | from the cities |
06:48.57 | Xinhuan | they need to go to |
06:49.14 | RaydenUni | leave some part of the city intact |
06:49.23 | RaydenUni | i think it would be worth it |
06:49.31 | Xinhuan | see the outcry from the zombie plague |
06:49.32 | RaydenUni | give people a real reason to work towards it |
06:49.45 | RaydenUni | this would almost be less invasive |
06:49.46 | Xinhuan | and that was nothing more than a debuff |
06:49.49 | RaydenUni | it would only be one city |
06:49.55 | doom0r | work is tiresome |
06:50.16 | RaydenUni | people were annoyed by the plague because it prevented them from grinding their quests |
06:50.24 | Bruners | servers down or (eu) |
06:50.33 | RaydenUni | so do it to a city no one cares about |
06:50.34 | RaydenUni | darnassus |
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06:50.43 | RaydenUni | TB |
06:50.45 | Xinhuan | you would annoy the level 1-11 nightelfs |
06:51.01 | Xinhuan | just cos you don't care about it doesn't mean others don't |
06:51.09 | RaydenUni | so move the quest givers in that area |
06:51.10 | Xinhuan | and if it really was darnassus, nobody would even care about doing the dailies |
06:51.12 | Loonacy | Xinhuan: They can just cyber elsewhere. |
06:51.16 | doom0r | marketing would not agree with the idea |
06:51.29 | RaydenUni | this is why we can't have cool earth changing events in wow |
06:51.39 | RaydenUni | :( |
06:51.48 | Gnarfoz | we have people like you who come up with random shit |
06:51.51 | Gnarfoz | that's even worse |
06:51.55 | Gnarfoz | :p |
06:51.58 | RaydenUni | random? |
06:52.05 | Gnarfoz | yes |
06:52.07 | RaydenUni | arthus claimed he razed orgrimmar and stormwind |
06:52.11 | RaydenUni | what exactly got razed? |
06:52.13 | Gnarfoz | who's arthus |
06:52.16 | RaydenUni | arthas |
06:52.30 | Xinhuan | he attempted to raze |
06:52.40 | Xinhuan | but the undead were beaten back 1 day before launch |
06:52.44 | Gnarfoz | to reiterate: <RaydenUni> what do you guys think about this <-- I just answered that :P |
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06:53.28 | doom0r | you never met arthus? he's a mean cat hangs on the corner of 22nd and king |
06:55.00 | RaydenUni | just seems like the expansion was an opportunity to do some really cool but they didn't |
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06:55.56 | doom0r | they did |
06:57.21 | Loonacy | "really cool" by your definition seems to be "really annoying to most people who just want to play the game" |
06:57.47 | RaydenUni | so you guys all think blizzard shouldn't have done the zombie stuff? |
06:58.00 | Loonacy | I hated the zombie stuff. |
06:58.13 | Xinhuan | they should have made the plague less harmful to lowbies, i.e deal % damage health instead of an absolute amount |
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07:02.06 | Bruners | i didnt even notice the zombie stuff |
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07:16.41 | Toadkiller | there should have been more zombies for longer imo |
07:17.12 | Toadkiller | and flying bat zombies to get the floaters |
07:17.35 | Bruners | i want a bat mount |
07:17.50 | Toadkiller | as for quests, please. you could do The Island quests 24/7 even at the height of it |
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07:18.17 | Toadkiller | And low level noobs that got squished, l2be 70 |
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07:19.25 | Zhinjio | anyone else have any issues making the rune bar on pitbull stay put? |
07:20.04 | Toadkiller | I have issues right clicking pitbull and selecting "set focus" |
07:21.11 | Bruners | think that is a blizzard bug |
07:21.25 | Bruners | the set focus thing |
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07:38.36 | Repo | 10auto-bar: 03Azethoth 04v671.1 beta release * r680 : Tagging as v671.1 beta release |
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07:41.50 | theoddone33 | sholazar is a great zone |
07:42.32 | Bruners | lol my old realm got free migration off the realm |
07:42.43 | quiescens | you should migrate |
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07:43.07 | Bruners | that will be good for the already 12/1 alliance/horde ratio |
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07:46.00 | quiescens | its okay, you won't be there any more |
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07:48.19 | Bruners | still got some characters there |
07:48.40 | quiescens | move all of them |
07:51.27 | doom0r | The Lich King casts Wrath of the Lich King at Doomey. |
07:51.27 | doom0r | The Lich King's Grasp of the Lich King dissipates from Doomey. |
07:51.40 | doom0r | that is awesome |
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08:25.09 | cncfanatics | bah maintenance |
08:26.17 | Elkano | it's wendsday after all |
08:26.28 | cncfanatics | I just hope there's no patch |
08:26.35 | cncfanatics | I got 1.5gig bandwidth left for the rest of the month |
08:26.58 | Bruners | what is your total? |
08:27.11 | cncfanatics | 30gig :( |
08:28.18 | Bruners | i could have lived with that |
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08:28.27 | Bruners | not that i have any limits here |
08:28.53 | cncfanatics | I can't :p |
08:28.57 | cncfanatics | I download quite a lot |
08:29.13 | doom0r | us had nothing |
08:29.35 | cncfanatics | doom0r: thats why I'm surprised its not just rolling restarts |
08:30.19 | Bruners | im guessing they are fixing stuff server side |
08:30.29 | doom0r | would be my thoughts too |
08:30.40 | Bruners | mobs not respawning correctly etc |
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08:36.53 | Bruners | anyone fancy telling me what this guy really wants, two first comments ? http://my.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/imptrack.aspx |
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08:40.20 | orionshock | anyone using TomTom and Cart3 and not being able to set waypoints with the cart3 world map via ctl right click? |
08:42.56 | Elkano | Bruners, seems like he wants to call your makro from his normal shoot rotation makro via click; but your makro would then always change the tracking type so he wants you to use a cast sequence that resets on target change in order to only cast the tracking once |
08:43.05 | Elkano | at least taht's how I understood it |
08:43.50 | Elkano | but I can't tell if what he suggests would work |
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08:48.58 | Lukian | Elkano, there's at least 3 addons which automatically change tracking, I'm sure one of them will work for him? :p |
08:49.25 | Bruners | Lukian: this is not automatic changing, its a macro |
08:50.14 | Lukian | true, but he wants it automated, whether or not he'd prefer it via a macro, is a good point though |
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08:51.40 | Lukian | Elkano, anyway yeah, he appears to want a macro with "/castsequence *mobtypetrackingspellhere*, null" |
08:52.04 | Lukian | with reset=target :/ |
08:52.07 | Lukian | oops ^_^ |
08:52.33 | Lukian | you could perhaps make it versatile too |
08:52.47 | Lukian | <PROTECTED> |
08:53.26 | Lukian | "null" ends a castsequence until the conditional is met |
08:53.54 | Bruners | but cant he just make a macro that clicks my macro in a sequence then ? |
08:54.37 | Lukian | Bruners, no you need /castsequence target=reset changetrackingtype, null |
08:54.55 | Lukian | otherwise his macro constantly changes the tracking type (setting the same one over and over |
08:55.07 | Lukian | unless you can use ! with tracking types? |
08:55.28 | Lukian | <PROTECTED> |
08:56.19 | Lukian | I'm also curious how he expects your macro to function in combat, because you can't edit a macro while flagged? |
08:57.08 | Bruners | nope |
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09:05.30 | asmodai | morning cladhaire |
09:05.36 | cladhaire | morning |
09:05.43 | cladhaire | tho I've been up for 4 hours :P |
09:06.00 | asmodai | How am I supposed to know? :P |
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09:35.41 | Bruners | Lukian, Elkano: that , null does what ? |
09:36.10 | Elkano | don't ask me, never did macros |
09:37.43 | Lukian | I just said |
09:38.03 | Lukian | it stops the castsequence macro from looping until the conditional is met |
09:38.04 | Bruners | what will it do in a /cast ? |
09:38.09 | Lukian | nothing |
09:38.19 | Bruners | so it doesnt matter if its there or not? |
09:39.15 | Lukian | it'll do nothing in a /cast |
09:39.31 | Lukian | see above for what it'll do in a /castsequence |
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09:46.14 | Lukian | Bruners, understand or would you like a more detailed explanation perhaps? |
09:46.57 | Bruners | Lukian: think i got it, just trying write the addon so that you can set it to /cast or sequence |
09:47.26 | Bruners | Lukian: just that it will require some more code to add the , null part if its a sequence or not |
09:47.42 | Lukian | Bruners, alrighty, don't spend too much time on it though, as it has limited use in combat (which is probably his intention?) |
09:48.02 | Bruners | Lukian: im guessing that is what he is trying :P |
09:48.09 | Lukian | it'll still set the tracking type, but not very efficiently :) |
09:50.18 | evl | Any addon out there that can assist in profession leveling? |
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09:59.24 | asmodai | any of you happen to watch Fringe? ;) |
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10:05.04 | Bruners | aww crap not up untill 1300 |
10:09.10 | asmodai | ? |
10:09.16 | asmodai | the servers? |
10:09.29 | asmodai | ah |
10:10.52 | cncfanatics | ~wowalert |
10:10.53 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
10:11.03 | cncfanatics | what a "surprise" |
10:12.16 | asmodai | cncfanatics: is it? :P |
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10:15.49 | cncfanatics | asmodai: sarcastic comment is sarcastic ^^ |
10:16.56 | asmodai | oh noes! |
10:18.27 | Primer | hehe |
10:18.40 | Primer | you see that item that stacks in lots of 2147483648? |
10:19.16 | Primer | some reward from a pvp daily |
10:20.44 | doom0r | gold? |
10:21.01 | doom0r | ;x |
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10:22.09 | asmodai | :| |
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10:52.33 | Bruners | how does itemprice-1.1 work really? |
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10:54.55 | doom0r | it's one big ass string |
10:55.06 | Bruners | i can see that |
10:56.08 | Bruners | but i dont understand how it can get itemprice out of that string |
10:56.09 | doom0r | the magics at the end |
10:56.51 | doom0r | just index the position in the string |
10:56.54 | KriLL3 | he said it was magic |
10:57.17 | doom0r | "just index the position in the string" |
10:57.28 | doom0r | items have set numbers |
10:57.32 | doom0r | so you have a range |
10:57.44 | doom0r | you just refrence the position matching your item # |
10:57.52 | Elkano | by the itemid you can get to the byte index |
10:57.58 | doom0r | then you use a scheme to break it down |
10:58.07 | doom0r | arrow said 4 bytes iirc |
10:58.18 | Elkano | iirc it used to be 3 |
10:58.46 | doom0r | return a * 16777216 + b * 65536 + c * 256 + d |
11:00.24 | asmodai | Damn you extended downtime! |
11:01.12 | asmodai | wotlk mounts, nice: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?page=824 |
11:07.23 | Bruners | sucks to level up to 70 get epic riding skill for 5000 and not be able to use it untill 77 :P |
11:07.40 | doom0r | some jag got time-lost right after hitting 80 on this server |
11:08.11 | Bruners | time-lost ? |
11:08.38 | smcn | protodrake from rare spawn in storm peaks i think |
11:08.39 | doom0r | ya, look at asmodai's link |
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11:08.53 | smcn | or just a regular drake |
11:10.02 | SunTsu | Bruners: Just don't buy riding(300) immediately |
11:10.59 | Bruners | SunTsu: i already did on my DK |
11:11.10 | trh | btw: is there any (fast) way to get from northrend to the outlands? (without being bound in shattrath, or having dalaran) |
11:12.18 | Tentacled | warlock summon |
11:12.30 | trh | ok... :( |
11:12.37 | Tentacled | or BG summon to Shatt |
11:12.48 | Tentacled | if you're fine with the deserter debuff |
11:13.05 | Xinhuan | pay a mage |
11:13.38 | asmodai | trh: sure |
11:13.45 | asmodai | trh: Dalaran -> gate to Shattrath |
11:13.50 | trh | yea... ok.. so only with help of others ;) - got it ;) |
11:13.54 | asmodai | I mean, jesus, Dalaran has gates everywhere |
11:14.16 | trh | not 75 yet |
11:14.41 | Xinhuan | shatt doesn't have gates to dalaran |
11:14.43 | Xinhuan | how sucky |
11:15.13 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: As usual |
11:16.49 | asmodai | trh: I got summoned to Dalaran at 66 ;) |
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11:18.24 | Tentacled | pf, I got summoned to Shatt at 50 ;P on my banker, too ;) |
11:19.01 | SunTsu | Bruners: What does the DK mount look like? |
11:20.14 | pompy | its just like attunmens mount but with a white glow on the feet |
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11:20.59 | SunTsu | pompy: I was talking about the flying one |
11:21.20 | SunTsu | pompy: I don't think Bruners payed 5k gold for the ground mount ;) |
11:21.59 | SunTsu | .o0( If he did those DK NPCs are far more nasty than I thought ) |
11:22.01 | asmodai | have you seen a dk's path of frost? |
11:22.13 | asmodai | like a shaman's water walking spell |
11:22.32 | asmodai | but with frost under the feet where it touches the water |
11:22.36 | SunTsu | asmodai: Not yet, my DK got it yesterday but I didn't have the time to test it |
11:22.47 | asmodai | I feel nerfed as a shaman :( |
11:23.02 | SunTsu | asmodai: Yeah, and it can be used while mounted and it counts for the whole group |
11:23.13 | asmodai | I am anticipating some nerfs to dks though, they're quite over powered in some ways |
11:24.15 | Bruners | SunTsu: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=48778#. |
11:24.47 | Bruners | asmodai: kinda OP if you ask me :P, have done most 3 man quests solo |
11:25.22 | SunTsu | Bruners: Did so with my feral druid, too |
11:25.37 | SunTsu | Bruners: I still was talking about the flying mount |
11:25.53 | SunTsu | I've seen the ground mount enough while riding it, thanks ;) |
11:26.44 | Bruners | SunTsu: i dont know how it looks yet as i dont have it |
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11:26.44 | asmodai | I am still miffed I need glyphs to be able to cast my water walking and water breathing without reagents |
11:26.46 | SunTsu | Bruners: Hm, a shame, no screenshot at wowhead yet |
11:26.52 | Bruners | SunTsu: we already know druids are OP |
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11:27.22 | SunTsu | Bruners: No, they are not. They are good at certain things and such at others, just like DKs |
11:27.33 | SunTsu | s/such/suck/ |
11:28.12 | cncfanatics | if you have a pool of 10 million people |
11:28.12 | asmodai | early levels of a druid suck, but later on, man |
11:28.24 | cncfanatics | about 1/8 will say druids are OP, 1/8 DK's are OP, 1/8 mages are OP, etc |
11:28.28 | cncfanatics | that means the game is balanced :p |
11:29.03 | Bruners | i would say druids and DKs are OP |
11:29.19 | asmodai | I wouldn't consider warriors or mages over powered |
11:30.14 | Bruners | in pve i dont care if they are OP, but for those who play pvp it annoying |
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11:32.10 | asmodai | you'll never get a full 1 on 1 balance I thikn |
11:32.12 | KriLL3 | anyone knows something about this? I met a DK, killed him dead, or at least he had 1hp and was immune somehow, then in his place a ghoul spawned, I didn't get a kill and he killed me O_o |
11:32.14 | asmodai | think |
11:32.29 | asmodai | KriLL3: it's the 45 ghoul talent of unholy |
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11:33.15 | cncfanatics | KriLL3: talent: when you get powned by KriLL3, you transform into a ghoul so you can proceed to own him back, after that you die |
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11:33.54 | KriLL3 | errm, the 45 one is "Rage of Rivendare" which is 2% more dmg on targets afflicted with a disease |
11:34.29 | Repo | 10tankwarnings: 03rbarreiros 041.1.2b * r37 : Tagging as 1.1.2b |
11:34.45 | SunTsu | asmodai: 1 on 1 isn't meant to be balanced |
11:35.14 | SunTsu | KriLL3: Yeah, unholy DK, like mine ;) |
11:35.21 | cncfanatics | Bruners: different classes have different oppinions about who is OP, if you found no class at all OP it would mean you were |
11:35.34 | KriLL3 | SunTsu: but where is it? what's the duration and other mechanics etc? |
11:36.14 | KriLL3 | it's impossible to balance 1on1 without making everyone identical |
11:36.23 | Bruners | cncfanatics: i have yet to find one class that I can kill a resto pvp druid with |
11:36.29 | cncfanatics | a DK |
11:36.38 | cncfanatics | they eat HoTs, remember ? :p |
11:36.46 | KriLL3 | Bruners: ferals can now actually, big crits + long stuns = sad resto |
11:36.51 | cncfanatics | and, they're useless on their own |
11:36.56 | SunTsu | KriLL3: 45s, IIRC |
11:37.00 | cncfanatics | resto pvp druids are only relevant in 2v2 or more |
11:37.01 | Bruners | cncfanatics: then we fall back to my first statement that DK's are OP :P |
11:37.16 | cncfanatics | ~facepalm Bruners |
11:37.21 | KriLL3 | SunTsu: do they die after? |
11:37.29 | cncfanatics | KriLL3: yes |
11:37.32 | KriLL3 | what is it named? |
11:37.37 | cncfanatics | oh noez THEY CAN BAET RESHTO DROOOODS THEY R OP |
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11:38.13 | Bruners | i did some heroics after patch pre wotlk with a feral druid tanking, he had 1200 dps and had the most dammage done total |
11:38.15 | doom0r | if you wanna have some fun |
11:38.18 | cncfanatics | shadow of death, KriLL3 |
11:38.21 | SunTsu | KriLL3: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deathknight= Tier 4, to the utter right, "Shadow of Death" |
11:38.21 | doom0r | res a dk that died as a ghoul |
11:38.24 | doom0r | ;x |
11:38.27 | cncfanatics | Bruners: "pre wotlk" |
11:38.55 | KriLL3 | SunTsu: bah it's really high up, all DKs can have it |
11:39.01 | SunTsu | doom0r: What happens if you do that? |
11:39.02 | asmodai | SunTsu: the problem I think is that they keep trying to balance pvp as well, next to pve |
11:39.26 | asmodai | I mean, you cannot use the same game mechanics for both a pve and pvp environment |
11:39.32 | KriLL3 | a lot of abilities are different in pvp and pve |
11:40.15 | doom0r | some bug with them staying a ghoul and not being able to do anything |
11:40.23 | KriLL3 | btw OoC is horribly broken atm... I get procs on drinking a potion, tradekills, mounting, etc |
11:40.28 | SunTsu | asmodai: Yeah, that's why they try to change game mechanics in PvP like diminishing returns and such |
11:40.29 | KriLL3 | buffing |
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11:41.04 | asmodai | SunTsu: I seriously wonder if it will work or if it just a major setup to fail |
11:41.16 | SunTsu | KriLL3: I don't have it anymore, put all my points into feral for the time being. Maybe again when I'm approaching lvl 80 |
11:41.31 | KriLL3 | it's nice for grinding so I got it atm, dunno if I will at 80 |
11:41.47 | KriLL3 | I got no points in natural shapeshifter etc, I'll need that if I want to pvp again |
11:41.50 | SunTsu | asmodai: To me the whole PvP thing is a big fail. Especially the whole PvP/resil gear. |
11:42.17 | KriLL3 | SunTsu: let me guess, you had really nice PvE gear and wanted to PvP, but sulked when you had to grind S2 gear to survive? |
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11:42.30 | Bruners | without resilience cloth users would be dead in seconds to heavy melee |
11:42.42 | SunTsu | You meet somebody with better PvP gear and you automatically lose |
11:42.46 | cncfanatics | without resi anything would be dead in seconds to anything serious :p |
11:42.56 | KriLL3 | Bruners: clothers can nuke you from a distance though |
11:43.06 | asmodai | SunTsu: *nods* |
11:43.07 | KriLL3 | SunTsu: gear is important in PvE also |
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11:43.20 | KriLL3 | you can't tank in greens |
11:43.26 | Bruners | you can with a dk |
11:43.29 | KriLL3 | true |
11:43.31 | SunTsu | KriLL3: Yeah, but it does not have that big an impacts |
11:43.31 | Bruners | :) |
11:43.36 | asmodai | SunTsu: but some people really want pvp, but to me pvp feels more like a fps, but with a fantasy cover |
11:43.37 | SunTsu | -s |
11:43.51 | asmodai | btw, what's up with all this haste on the new gear? |
11:43.56 | KriLL3 | I like |
11:44.01 | KriLL3 | more OoC procs |
11:44.16 | Bruners | i think blizzard wants us to use more haste gear |
11:45.48 | KriLL3 | I just wish feral white dmg was high enough to notice an increase in haste... |
11:46.44 | SunTsu | KriLL3: Yeah, same thing I was thinking. "Oh, great, everything now comes with haste. So, where is something I can use?" |
11:47.36 | KriLL3 | bear white dmg is higher, though it might just be the slower swing... |
11:47.43 | KriLL3 | dunno how it's dps compares to kitten's |
11:48.39 | Repo | 10squire: 03Adirelle * r23 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed (and ran) the dataminer to catch more flying mounts. |
11:49.55 | theoddone33 | sad about wizard oils going away |
11:50.16 | theoddone33 | oh well |
11:50.48 | KriLL3 | "Update: The realms will continue to be offline for maintenance until 15:00, Paris time (CET)." |
11:50.52 | KriLL3 | they took down the forums... wounder why... |
11:51.13 | KriLL3 | theoddone33: blizz considered em too required, thus no longer a bonus |
11:51.21 | theoddone33 | yeah |
11:51.30 | theoddone33 | just like all enchants |
11:51.38 | KriLL3 | true |
11:51.43 | theoddone33 | I'm just mad because I can't pad my stats anymore |
11:52.00 | KriLL3 | it sucks leveling up and getting blues that are better than your purples, if only you managed to get an enchant on em |
11:52.09 | theoddone33 | yeah |
11:52.12 | theoddone33 | that's annoying |
11:52.34 | Bruners | you cant enchant your gear anymore ? |
11:52.37 | theoddone33 | the thing that gets me is that I'm 78 now and my spell power has barely changed in 8 levels |
11:52.37 | KriLL3 | I've yet to see any enchants on the AH |
11:53.08 | KriLL3 | Bruners: it's really hard since the enchanters aren't spamming /2 and shoulder/head enchants are available... somewhere... I don't know where |
11:53.14 | theoddone33 | in fact I have less than before because I went frostfire and I am pretty sure that didn't benefit from soulfrost |
11:53.46 | theoddone33 | you just can't wizard oil or sharpening stone at 80 |
11:54.13 | theoddone33 | if they're going to take those out,, might as well take out alchemy |
11:54.24 | theoddone33 | but I'm sure they think these things through somewhere |
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11:54.32 | KriLL3 | well imo flasks are a bit insane |
11:54.45 | Bruners | uhm, oil is enchanting and stones are blacksmithing |
11:54.50 | KriLL3 | you're more or less required to have a grindteam to raid |
11:54.55 | theoddone33 | I know |
11:55.08 | Bruners | i miss the old sharpening stones :( |
11:55.15 | theoddone33 | but they're removing an "extra" buff, and their stated reason was because farming costs were prohibitive |
11:55.19 | Bruners | gave my hunter extra crit :) |
11:55.39 | theoddone33 | although everything I hear about the 25 man content seems to indicate that it won't be that hard |
11:55.43 | theoddone33 | so I guess it doesn't matter |
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11:56.26 | Bruners | seeing that sk/nih already have done all content i dont think its that hard |
11:56.28 | KriLL3 | Bruners: I don't mind em being gone, since they didn't work for ferals =P |
11:57.02 | Pneumatus | they actually said it was an oversight that new stones/oils hadnt been implemented |
11:57.19 | theoddone33 | I just read a blue post saying they took them out on purpose |
11:57.25 | theoddone33 | linked from wowhead |
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11:57.45 | KriLL3 | yeah |
11:57.47 | phyber | ammo/profession bags! |
11:57.47 | theoddone33 | they took out the new ones and you can't use the old world ones at 80 |
11:57.50 | phyber | stabs inscription |
11:57.56 | theoddone33 | as far as I can tell |
11:58.05 | KriLL3 | yeah it was on purpose |
11:58.26 | KriLL3 | they're trying to simplify some things, like rogues buying pre-made poisons etc instead of mats |
11:58.43 | theoddone33 | yup |
11:58.57 | theoddone33 | the game gets different with every patch, just gotta adjust |
11:59.02 | Pneumatus | do junkboxes contain more silver now they dont contain poison mats? |
11:59.16 | theoddone33 | I'm also made because I just made 100 charges of wizard oil not realizing it can't be applied at 80 |
11:59.24 | KriLL3 | lol |
11:59.32 | KriLL3 | joo r teh winnar! |
11:59.45 | theoddone33 | I heard they were taking them out but I didn't realize that applied to the old stuff |
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12:00.16 | theoddone33 | but now I get an extra 40-some spellpower for 100% of 78-80 |
12:00.21 | KriLL3 | but can't you apply it to level 70 weapons still even if you're 70+? |
12:00.31 | theoddone33 | you can apply it until you're 80, it sounds like |
12:00.41 | theoddone33 | grr... |
12:00.50 | theoddone33 | now I'm logging in to check if I can put it on my slobberknocker |
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12:01.28 | theoddone33 | if I can't that'd be a good argument for me going back in time and not deleting my s2 spellblade |
12:01.44 | sb | urarrg |
12:01.44 | Pneumatus | oils were such a minimal part of raid costs though, compared to food+flasks+pots |
12:01.55 | Pneumatus | seems a bit backwards to remove them |
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12:01.57 | sb | maintenance extended - another 2 hours *sigh* |
12:01.58 | theoddone33 | yeah |
12:02.05 | theoddone33 | it does seem a bit backwards |
12:02.09 | theoddone33 | but simpler |
12:02.21 | Pneumatus | i'd spend 100g+ a night on flasks/pots/food and like 5g on oil |
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12:02.46 | theoddone33 | yeah I can't apply them on 71+ weapons |
12:02.52 | theoddone33 | now I am going to cry myself to sleep |
12:03.11 | quiescens | I think the idea was to make poisons/windfury/etc more of a unique thing |
12:03.35 | theoddone33 | I think they idea was to make it so they don't have to worry if poisons aren't as good as sharpening stones |
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12:04.02 | quiescens | eh poisons are much better than the sharpening stones anyway |
12:04.08 | Elkano | Xinhuan ping? |
12:04.09 | theoddone33 | a lot of the stuff I see happening is designed to simplify their jobs |
12:04.14 | Bruners | with poison talents they will be better no matter what you do |
12:04.20 | theoddone33 | eliminate +heal |
12:04.34 | theoddone33 | give paladins a use for block value |
12:04.38 | theoddone33 | etc |
12:04.47 | theoddone33 | they can itemize stuff more easily |
12:05.27 | theoddone33 | oh well |
12:05.56 | theoddone33 | I like to think they put the time they saved on that stuff into creating good raid content |
12:06.00 | theoddone33 | and good quests/zones |
12:06.19 | theoddone33 | and more sexy blood elf art for the loading screens |
12:06.21 | theoddone33 | ... |
12:06.50 | doom0r | i gotta stop running off the edge into whisper gulch |
12:07.49 | doom0r | anways... the wholre thing was about recucing raids from buff our way insanely into it being doable possibly to simply working at content with a level set of buffs and no ridiculous farming |
12:08.12 | doom0r | s/recucing/reducing/ |
12:08.59 | doom0r | purl, wtf, on a smoke break? |
12:09.21 | Xinhuan | Elkano: pong |
12:09.27 | doom0r | hmmm, looks like my server is lagging' |
12:09.50 | Bruners | looks like my server is still down |
12:09.55 | harl | mine too |
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12:10.14 | doom0r | i meant irc server |
12:10.16 | Elkano | Xinhuan, since you did the 3.x update for PerformanceFu, mind checking over it wrt the line 412 bug noted in curse comments? |
12:10.27 | Xinhuan | is it the nil bug |
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12:15.03 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4789 modules.xml: Add Naxxramas bosses to modules.xml |
12:15.50 | Repo | 10ora2: 03Rabbit * r644 Leader/Invite.lua: |
12:15.50 | Repo | Leader/Invite: Don't autoconvert to raid if we're in a 5-man group. |
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12:18.21 | cncfanatics | bah |
12:18.27 | cncfanatics | maintenance extended for another 2 hours >.> |
12:18.52 | vhaarr | ~wowalert |
12:18.52 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
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12:19.36 | Repo | 10squire: 03Adirelle * r24 Core.lua: Reworked event listeners: |
12:19.37 | Repo | - disable all listeners but PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED when entering combat, enable them back when leaving combat, |
12:19.39 | Repo | - only test mount status on UNIT_AURA for "player", |
12:19.43 | Repo | - do not watch movements unless a "movement spell" is avaiable and enabled. |
12:21.19 | doom0r | i'm really diggin the story line being in quests on a linear level |
12:21.33 | doom0r | not just random pieces here and there that they attempt to string together |
12:21.37 | Xinhuan | what events do you actually listen for Adirelle|work |
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12:23.28 | Zeksie | sob... EU server maint extended for another 2 hours... again. :| |
12:23.52 | Xinhuan | play on US ;p |
12:24.43 | Repo | 10fubar_performancefu: 03Xinhuan * r145 PerformanceFu.lua: |
12:24.44 | Repo | Workaround line 412 nil error by setting initial memory values to 0. Not going to bother finding out why :OnTextUpdate() got called before OnEnable(), particularly for FuBar2Broker users. |
12:25.13 | Zeksie | Adirelle|work: i tried checking IsMounted() on unit_aura.. it's won't work at that point. |
12:25.20 | Zeksie | Xinhuan: with a 450 ping? no... |
12:25.28 | Pneumatus | EU realms are starting to re-appear if anyone cares |
12:25.31 | Xinhuan | i play at 450 ping for 4 years zeksie |
12:25.35 | Xinhuan | from asia |
12:25.36 | SunTsu | Zeksie: That's good news to me ;) I had too much traffic jam on my way to work and was pondering whether to turn around and have a holiday. But you tell me that i couldn't have played anyway ;) |
12:26.10 | Adirelle|work | Xinhuan: ZONE_CHANGED, ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA, PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, COMPANION_LEARNED, and maybe SPELLS_CHANGED |
12:26.21 | Bruners | Xinhuan: why dont you play on asian realms then ? |
12:26.32 | Xinhuan | there aren't any |
12:26.39 | Zeksie | SunTsu: yeh. they're saying 1500 CET now.. :| |
12:26.48 | Zeksie | Xinhuan: sure.. but I have a choice :) |
12:26.51 | Xinhuan | singapore/malaysia/indonesia/aus/nz officially plays on US realms |
12:26.54 | Adirelle|work | Xinhuan: they don't happen that often, but Tekkub is whining "too much updates" |
12:27.08 | Xinhuan | how about you ignore what tekkub says |
12:27.12 | Xinhuan | he's too picky for his own good |
12:27.15 | Adirelle|work | I'm considering it too :p |
12:27.18 | cncfanatics | haha |
12:27.20 | cncfanatics | so true |
12:28.02 | Xinhuan | those events can't even possibly happen (well they can but the chances is like near zero) in combat |
12:28.15 | Xinhuan | unregistering and reregistering them is more wasting CPU than listening to them |
12:28.39 | Adirelle|work | actually I think this is the movement thingy that was causing to much updates, that are useless if you don't have or have disabled movement spells |
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12:29.04 | Xinhuan | explain to me how listening to ZONE_CHANGED, ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA, PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, COMPANION_LEARNED, and maybe SPELLS_CHANGED is of any consequence while in combat :o |
12:29.19 | Adirelle|work | you're right they won't |
12:29.27 | Repo | 10arl: 03TrAsHeR * r1095 Locals/ARLLocals-frFR.lua: frFR update |
12:30.18 | Xinhuan | he's just too particular about being minimal, to the point there's a lack of options |
12:30.25 | Adirelle|work | BTW, I'm trying to get a way to catch IsMounted changes, Zeksie says UNIT_AURA doesn't fit, and as the EU servers are down, I can't test |
12:30.50 | Xinhuan | why doesn't UNIT_AURA fit? |
12:31.10 | Zeksie | Adirelle|work: i tested it a lot. UNIT_AURA fires when you get the buff, but IsMounted() is still nil (when mounting up). thre is not event that fires when IsMounted() changes |
12:31.11 | Adirelle|work | dunno, maybe the internal data isn't updated yet |
12:31.16 | Zeksie | i was hoping for UNIT_FLAGS or PLAYER_FLAGS etc.. |
12:31.33 | Xinhuan | ah so you're saying there is a race condition between IsMounted() and U_A? |
12:31.45 | Adirelle|work | looks like it is |
12:31.51 | Xinhuan | there is a similar one between ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA and GetRealZoneText() btw |
12:31.55 | Xinhuan | its only solvable by using an OnUpdate |
12:32.03 | Zeksie | because when you mount, IsMounted() is still nil for anything up to half a second more |
12:32.21 | Xinhuan | as long as your onupdate is minimal, its fine |
12:32.24 | Zeksie | for ZOMG, I had to put a half second delay in checking.. |
12:32.32 | Xinhuan | people that play with vsync on won't even see any difference |
12:32.45 | Xinhuan | since itslikely limited to 60 calls at max per sec |
12:32.53 | Zeksie | indeed |
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12:33.16 | Repo | 10gathermate_sharing: 03kagaro * r71 / (2 files in 1 directory): GatherMate_Sharing: incremented zone index |
12:33.24 | Adirelle|work | hrm, the GetRealZoneText() thing sucks |
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12:33.42 | cncfanatics | ~realmstatus |
12:33.43 | purl | well, realmstatus is a lie |
12:33.46 | cncfanatics | ... |
12:33.51 | cncfanatics | what mofo did that ? |
12:33.53 | Adirelle|work | and what about ZONE_CHANGED and GetSubZoneText() ? |
12:34.04 | Xinhuan | unsure about that |
12:34.05 | doom0r | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Companion |
12:34.16 | Xinhuan | i use an OnUpdate in both Routes and GatherMate to avoid the race condition |
12:34.29 | Xinhuan | because i need to know the current zone to switch icons to display |
12:34.51 | Adirelle|work | are you always testing it or just when a ZONE_CHANGED event fired a few time before ? |
12:35.03 | Repo | 10gathermate_sharing: 03kagaro 04v1.1 * r72 : Tagging as v1.1 |
12:35.03 | Repo | Wrath updates for zone index. |
12:37.04 | Xinhuan | its a continuous OnUpdate |
12:37.08 | Xinhuan | fires every frame continuously |
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12:37.48 | Adirelle|work | gonna take a llok |
12:37.49 | Xinhuan | i.e OnUpdate = local newzone = GRZT() if oldzone ~= newzone then DoStuff() else oldzone = newzone end |
12:37.50 | Adirelle|work | look* |
12:37.59 | Adirelle|work | oh ok |
12:38.05 | Xinhuan | i mean update oldzone both ways |
12:38.11 | Xinhuan | i.e OnUpdate = local newzone = GRZT() if oldzone ~= newzone then DoStuff() end oldzone = newzone |
12:38.13 | Xinhuan | like that |
12:39.02 | Adirelle|work | what thinking of something like : if event_fired then local newzone = GRZT() if oldzone ~= newzone then DoStuff() event_fired = false end oldzone = newzone |
12:39.10 | Xinhuan | it may not work |
12:39.12 | Bruners | select(2, UnitClass('player')) will return what for a Death Knight ? |
12:39.13 | Xinhuan | because of race condition |
12:39.26 | Adirelle|work | and setting event_fired to true in |
12:39.26 | Elkano | DEATHKNIGHT I think |
12:39.26 | Xinhuan | the GRZT() return value can change BEFORE the event fires |
12:39.30 | Adirelle|work | ok |
12:39.39 | Adirelle|work | seems I'm going that way too... |
12:39.40 | Xinhuan | so your proposed solution would fail |
12:40.22 | Xinhuan | Bruners: "DEATHKNIGHT" |
12:40.25 | Adirelle|work | for both, IsMounted and zones |
12:40.39 | quiescens | gzrt~ |
12:41.00 | Adirelle|work | BTW that allows to easily shutdown lisnters in combat by hide the frame :p |
12:41.29 | Repo | 10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 * r38 / (2 files in 1 directory): JebusMail: |
12:41.30 | Repo | - Fixed Option toggle issues with UI Panel |
12:41.30 | Repo | - Added option to split large guild lists into smaller sublists |
12:42.00 | Repo | 10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 04v3.03c * r39 : JebusMail: |
12:42.01 | Repo | - Fixed Option toggle issues with UI Panel |
12:42.02 | Repo | - Added option to split large guild lists into smaller sublists |
12:42.09 | Elkano | what's the dufference between GetZoneText and GetRealZoneText? |
12:43.44 | Xinhuan | forgot heh |
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12:44.13 | Elkano | and wrt the race condition, I never noticed a problem in FactionsFu |
12:45.04 | Xinhuan | P_E_W doesn't have race condition |
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12:53.12 | Repo | 2d05ba8: Bug fixes and delete unused locale strings. |
12:53.13 | Repo | 62fff2c: Add comment about the different bag types. |
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12:56.24 | Adirelle|work | hrm... is there some race condition between SetMapToCurrentZone() and the map getters (e.g. GetSubZoneTexT, GetCurrentMapContinent and GetMapInfo) ? |
12:57.10 | Xinhuan | setmaptocurrentzone doesn't change GetSubZoneTexT |
12:57.43 | asmodai | any of you run/set up a guild website? |
12:57.44 | Xinhuan | caling setmaptocurrentzone() will fire WORLD_MAP_UPDATE |
12:57.54 | Xinhuan | you should respond to WORLD_MAP_UPDATE instead |
12:57.58 | asmodai | my guild's looking at either getting a pro hosting at guildomatic |
12:58.02 | Xinhuan | no race conditions there |
12:58.11 | asmodai | but it looks like most of the functionality is easily set up by yourself |
12:58.13 | Xinhuan | note that A LOT of addons listen to WORLD_MAP_UPDATE |
12:58.24 | Xinhuan | so you should not be calling SMTCZ() a lot |
12:58.40 | SunTsu | deDE-servers appear to be up |
12:58.43 | Xinhuan | also do not call SMTCZ() inside WORLD_MAP_UPDATE ;p |
12:58.49 | Xinhuan | or you'll end up in an infinite loop |
12:58.52 | Xinhuan | and hang your wow |
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12:59.12 | Xinhuan | GetCurrentMapContinent and GetMapInfo etc will be correct during WORLD_MAP_UPDATE |
12:59.17 | Adirelle|work | actually I need a way to catch the continent, zone and subzone the player is in |
12:59.40 | Xinhuan | your best bet then is to use Astrolabe, OR build your own continent/zone mapping table on login |
12:59.55 | Xinhuan | routes and gathermate builds the C/Z mapping table on login |
13:00.05 | Xinhuan | you can see this in constants.lua and data.lua of those addons |
13:00.14 | Adirelle|work | then using the RealZone text to get back to the continent ? |
13:00.18 | Xinhuan | handynotes uses astrolabe (which also does the mapping) |
13:00.19 | Xinhuan | yes |
13:00.24 | Xinhuan | you build a reverse table |
13:00.33 | Xinhuan | but you'll want a forward/reverse function as well |
13:00.36 | Zeksie | yay we're up.. |
13:00.42 | Xinhuan | so you can map both ways |
13:01.03 | Xinhuan | you'll also need extra code for Battleground maps + DK starting area map (ScarletEnclave) |
13:01.05 | Tentacled | Adirelle|work: also note that battlegrounds AND DK starting area are not present in the continent/zone returning functions. |
13:01.10 | Tentacled | ... :D |
13:01.20 | Adirelle|work | woohoo |
13:01.35 | Xinhuan | GetCZ basically works for zones with maps |
13:01.52 | Xinhuan | for those BG + DK start area, it returns -1, 0 |
13:02.02 | Tentacled | You might get hold of the Astrolabe that ships with QuestHelper |
13:02.04 | Adirelle|work | are battlegroudns and ScarletEnclave flyable ? |
13:02.04 | Xinhuan | so you need GetRealZoneText() instead |
13:02.09 | Xinhuan | no |
13:02.12 | Xinhuan | not flyable |
13:02.24 | Adirelle|work | ok, so that solves that particular issue |
13:02.36 | Tentacled | It has ready code placing DK area in a "-7777" "virtual" continent. |
13:02.48 | Adirelle|work | I use all that stuff for a "IsReallyFlyable" code |
13:02.54 | Xinhuan | handynotes has a specific workaroudn for the DK zone |
13:03.04 | Daemona | Anyone mind having a look at my FrameXML.log at http://ace.pastey.net/102217 and help me figure out which addon makes me force disconnect on trying to login? Only things changed since last successful login are questhelper, autobar, talented_data and gathermate_sharing |
13:03.08 | Xinhuan | because it is technically on the EK continent from a player perpsective |
13:03.12 | Xinhuan | but it really is in an instance |
13:03.15 | Adirelle|work | if IsFlyable returns false, I do not do further tests |
13:03.24 | Xinhuan | so it doesn't really have translatable coords |
13:03.31 | Tentacled | an instance, or just an off-world zone somewhere? |
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13:03.39 | Xinhuan | instance |
13:03.41 | Xinhuan | like AV |
13:03.47 | Tentacled | Okay. |
13:03.59 | Xinhuan | you can't reach the ScarletEnclave map |
13:04.04 | Xinhuan | except by zoning there |
13:04.24 | Xinhuan | in fact only DKs can go there anyway |
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13:05.16 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: Do you know whether it is possible to send mail while doing the DK starterquests? |
13:05.39 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03kagaro * r596 / (11 files in 3 directories): |
13:05.40 | Repo | GatherMate: updated frozen herb icon, and added frost lotus, since these are found in wintergrasp as stand alone herbs |
13:06.08 | Xinhuan | if there's a mailbox |
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13:06.12 | Repo | 10fubar_bagfu: 03phyber 07master * v1.1.1-5-gf6bb25c BagFu.lua: [+1 commit] Make 'usable' in the OnClick local. |
13:06.14 | asmodai | kagaro: nice ;) |
13:06.19 | kagaro | ? |
13:06.29 | Xinhuan | kagaro, _Data seems empty for crystalsong |
13:07.11 | kagaro | wowdb has no herb data for crystalsong |
13:07.17 | Xinhuan | fail db |
13:07.19 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: There is |
13:07.28 | Xinhuan | i dont' consider like 3 nodes data ;p |
13:07.44 | quiescens | they need to make [flyable] false if you don't have cold weather flying in northrend |
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13:09.17 | Xinhuan | my guild is having an argument on /g |
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13:09.45 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r201 TradeskillIdData.lua: - Fix a few unknown skill levels from WoWDB |
13:09.54 | Xinhuan | they are trying to argue whether its inscriptor, inscriptioner, scribe, inscriber or otherwise |
13:10.00 | Xinhuan | for a person with inscription as a profession |
13:10.26 | Stanzilla | inscriber I think |
13:10.53 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: I'd go with inscriber, but that's just some kind of feeling, no facts to support it |
13:10.54 | ramoz | thats a word atleast |
13:11.13 | Xinhuan | the game seems to have "scribe" for NPCs in dalaran |
13:11.55 | ramoz | according to my wordbook a scriber is the tool a inscriber uses |
13:12.54 | phyber | Inscriptionist. |
13:14.44 | Xinhuan | inscriptionologist |
13:14.57 | doom0r | Inscriber |
13:15.12 | neenee | I call myself a Scribe too. |
13:15.29 | doom0r | pretty much the same |
13:15.50 | doom0r | either way Xinhuan: no argument in wow |
13:15.54 | phyber | Xinhuan: I like that one :) |
13:15.57 | doom0r | npcs have prefix Inscriber |
13:16.06 | Repo | 10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03ananhaid * r136 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Zone-3.0: |
13:16.07 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
13:16.09 | asmodai | inscriber is more accurate |
13:16.11 | neenee | Xinhuan: Did you finally get that LiveCD to delete those two files? :) |
13:16.15 | asmodai | scriber is more someone who takes notes |
13:16.23 | Xinhuan | neenee no |
13:16.25 | doom0r | a scribe writes complete texts |
13:16.29 | Repo | 10framesresized: 03Elkano * r39 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
13:16.30 | Repo | trying to fix the QuestLog frame top texture sometimes coming in front of the mid texture |
13:16.57 | Xinhuan | i rightlick, properties --> security --> permissions --> advanced --> some super advanced tab --> some edit button --> unchecked "write attributes" DENY |
13:17.03 | Xinhuan | then clicked OK 4 times and delete the file |
13:17.31 | neenee | Nice and intuitive then. |
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13:24.09 | Adirelle|work | Xinhuan: what do think about this ? http://ace.pastey.net/102218 |
13:25.11 | Antiarc | http://i35.tinypic.com/2a65hfk.jpg |
13:25.40 | doom0r | this stuck in combat crap is outta hand |
13:25.51 | Antiarc | reloading my UI fixes it usually |
13:26.33 | doom0r | there's a water vendor in the sewers in dalaran |
13:26.44 | Antiarc | yes, that'd be the one |
13:26.49 | Antiarc | It's just amusing because he's a mage |
13:26.58 | doom0r | and the best thing is if you use the buff from the pot on the round |
13:27.01 | doom0r | groun* |
13:27.03 | doom0r | asdfkl;j |
13:27.13 | doom0r | gound, they look like tier2 mages |
13:28.03 | Antiarc | Having 4200 AP self-buffed is amazing |
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13:28.43 | doom0r | i'm 74, a pally and i have 2300 with 26% crit already ;x |
13:29.35 | doom0r | make that 75 |
13:31.04 | pentium166 | big number tiem |
13:31.21 | pentium166 | my level 70 feral druid has 3700/46%! |
13:31.44 | kenlyric | AUGH DICK COMPARISON TIME |
13:32.18 | pentium166 | although the crit% has nowhere to go but down |
13:32.19 | Antiarc | Your druid doesn't have a weapon worth 2000 AP :V |
13:32.27 | Antiarc | And yeah, crit drops about in half at 80 |
13:32.29 | pentium166 | pfft |
13:32.48 | kenlyric | something is wrong with wow... |
13:32.51 | SunTsu | pentium166: AP is something unique to a certain class |
13:32.59 | kenlyric | they've changed the login screen... |
13:33.06 | pentium166 | no way :p |
13:33.10 | kenlyric | OH, there's no notice of rolling restarts |
13:33.13 | SunTsu | kenlyric: Welcome to wotLK ;) |
13:33.20 | Antiarc | rofl |
13:33.40 | kenlyric | that's the first time since 3.0 dropped there hasn't been an announcement window |
13:33.50 | SunTsu | pentium166: 2k AP does not mean the same for a druid, a hunter or a rogue, for instance |
13:33.57 | pentium166 | i realize that |
13:34.11 | opant | i'll slap you with my paws! |
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13:34.35 | JY` | 2K ap for a mage is more than 2K ap for a rogue ! |
13:34.50 | opant | i'll poke you with my staff! |
13:34.52 | pentium166 | not really |
13:35.03 | pentium166 | they'd need like 10k ap to compete with a rogue |
13:35.43 | JY` | :) |
13:35.54 | doom0r | pentium166: you mean 1300sp |
13:36.09 | pentium166 | he specified ap, not sp! |
13:36.38 | Repo | 10squire: 03Adirelle * r25 Core.lua: (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
13:36.39 | Repo | Reverted previous changes. |
13:36.40 | Repo | Rewrote IsReallyFlyable to not fire WORLD_FRAME_EVENT (I swear I did not know !). |
13:36.43 | Repo | Rewrote listeners to properly catch zone changes despite race condition between ZONE_CHANGED* and Get*ZoneText. |
13:36.49 | Repo | Thanks to Xinhuan for pointing out these issues. |
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13:53.13 | Repo | 10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r100 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
13:53.14 | Repo | GatherMate_Data: added support for more selective importing of data |
13:54.02 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: Can you make Gathermate pick up Everfrost chips? |
13:54.16 | kagaro | Antiarc: its working now |
13:54.22 | Antiarc | I need to upgrade then |
13:54.27 | kagaro | I added that yesterday |
13:54.32 | Xinhuan | Antiarc, already added yesterday |
13:54.37 | Antiarc | Thanks! |
13:54.45 | Antiarc | Grinding Sons of Hodir exalted is going to suck |
13:56.15 | Xinhuan | i got valiance exalted now, so i have 39 |
13:56.17 | Xinhuan | need one more for 40 |
13:56.22 | Xinhuan | what's the easiest |
13:56.32 | Antiarc | Pick a tabard, grind heroics |
13:56.43 | Xinhuan | kaluak then i guess, but i'm not lvl 80 yet |
13:56.45 | Xinhuan | i'm 76 |
13:56.45 | Antiarc | Ebon Blade is nice, lots of dailies plus the tabard |
13:56.53 | Antiarc | Kaluak don't have a tabard |
13:56.57 | Xinhuan | oh |
13:57.03 | Xinhuan | but i'm closes to exalted with that one |
13:57.06 | Antiarc | Ebon Blade is probably easiest |
13:57.10 | Xinhuan | i'm like 6k/21k |
13:57.12 | Xinhuan | with them |
13:57.35 | Xinhuan | i don't even have Ebon whatever on my rep list lol |
13:57.49 | Xinhuan | i've only seen 3 zones, but completed all 3 (fjord, DB and borean) |
13:58.42 | jnwhiteh | Anyone happen to have a WoW client open/available with Lightheaded installed and up-to-date? |
13:58.46 | jnwhiteh | Just need someone to test something for me. |
13:58.52 | pentium166 | if you skip most of borean tundra and all of howling fjord, will you have enough content to quest to 80 after finishing dragonblight? |
13:59.22 | Antiarc | Hm, I updated via the Curse client and don't have Everfrost chips in Gathermate |
13:59.39 | jnwhiteh | Could you /run LightHeaded:UpdateFrame(11608) with the LightHeaded frame open, and let me know if it loads the information for that quest? |
14:00.15 | many | pentium166: quests+killing mobs with some (not much) resto are roundabout 5.5million XP |
14:00.49 | kagaro | Antiarc: it should, ill double check it got pushed to curse |
14:00.50 | many | from 70-80 youll need roundabout 16 million XP |
14:01.44 | pentium166 | many: what is the 5.5 million number from? |
14:01.51 | many | playing my char ^^ |
14:01.55 | Xinhuan | dunno but i'm lvl 76 from doing the first 2 starter zones + dragonblight |
14:01.56 | pentium166 | where though |
14:01.58 | Xinhuan | 2 lvls per zone |
14:02.02 | Xinhuan | didn't even do the instances |
14:02.10 | many | i was 73 3/4 when finishing tundra and fjord |
14:02.52 | many | hit 74 in winterfortress (or whatever it is called) yesterday |
14:03.00 | many | w/o any instances, too |
14:04.03 | many | + i have the five achievements regarding to tundra and fjord (exploring both, quests somesmallnummber > 130 for both, DEHTA achievement) |
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14:04.50 | many | FWIW, my opinion is to quite miss out tundra, but dont miss the fjord. the fjord is "too cute" too be missed =P |
14:05.08 | Xinhuan | shouldn't miss ANY zone |
14:05.15 | Xinhuan | particularly if yuo're into lore |
14:05.44 | pentium166 | well, I have two characters to level up so I kind of want to have something different for the second one |
14:06.16 | many | ebware that you might not get quests if you dont have the decent level |
14:06.16 | Antiarc | Borean is the worst of the Wrath zones, really |
14:06.17 | Antiarc | By far |
14:06.19 | kagaro | Antiarc: grab the version form wowace instead of curse, hasnt been pushed over yet |
14:06.25 | Antiarc | k, thanks |
14:06.50 | pentium166 | I've run into that a few times so far, but there have been other quests to do |
14:06.53 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03kagaro * r597 / (12 files in 2 directories): |
14:06.54 | Repo | GatherMate: added support for more selective importing of data |
14:07.05 | pentium166 | I can't turn in the wrath gate one yet because I'm not 74 |
14:07.10 | many | my 67 rogue doesnt get any quest there, yet, though it can steal the cloth from the human mobs already (nice new thing to learn!) |
14:07.13 | kagaro | Im addind a new import option so you can just import wrath data |
14:07.19 | pentium166 | But I got to see the cutscene |
14:07.40 | many | wrath gate? |
14:07.57 | pentium166 | spoilers! |
14:08.06 | many | oh. my char is 74. if it hadnt been to dalaran before it could get into it nowÂ! |
14:08.08 | many | hehe |
14:08.12 | many | pentium166: okay, dont spoil |
14:08.30 | many | 's not like the kids who turned 80 saturday evening |
14:08.42 | many | we even have a 80 DK already .... |
14:09.10 | pentium166 | I already knew what was going to happen from reading the forums :( |
14:10.55 | many | we got into dalaran by beating up a single horde char. "Perfect warsong" now that was cute. my gfs only PVP fight and she made it "perfect" |
14:11.34 | pentium166 | What, the horde team had one player in WSG? |
14:11.41 | many | Yeah |
14:11.44 | pentium166 | nice |
14:12.07 | many | and we were 10. so it was too easy =P |
14:12.31 | SunTsu | many: Fjord is real cute, but in my experience tundra is faster ;) And Coldarra is real awesome |
14:13.18 | SunTsu | Jawdropper the first time I saw it |
14:13.45 | pentium166 | I did Coldarra and a handful of the quests around the Alliance town... people keep saying to do up to the Last Rites quest though |
14:15.37 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03kagaro * r598 Config.lua: GatherMate: added check for combo to ensure proper import |
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14:19.47 | many | pentium166: last rites is the key to naxx |
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14:20.14 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03kagaro 04v1.0.8 * r599 : Tagging as v1.0.8 |
14:20.25 | Fisker- | moo: cpu: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Xeon processor (x64) at 2673MHz |
14:20.27 | Fisker- | :* |
14:20.28 | Fisker- | :( |
14:20.34 | quiescens | moo |
14:21.51 | Repo | 10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r101 / (4 files in 1 directory): GatherMate_Data: Weekly update |
14:21.53 | Repo | 10gathermate_data: 03kagaro 04v1.12 * r102 : GatherMate_Data: weekly update |
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14:31.28 | Parnic | ping for mods to deal with this guy: http://wow.curse.com/user/Profile.aspx?UserID=770717 |
14:31.46 | Parnic | he's leaving defamatory comments about curse and a bunch of addons, blaming them as keyloggers |
14:31.51 | Repo | 10ab: 03Dridzt * r48 / (4 files in 1 directory): - various widget compatibility fixes for wow 3.x/WotLK |
14:31.52 | Repo | - .pkgmeta externals fixed |
14:31.52 | Repo | - .toc ##Interface: 30000 |
14:36.37 | ckknight | Kody-: can you ban people on curse? |
14:36.45 | Repo | 10ab: 03Dridzt * r49 libs/: - setup as external instead |
14:37.52 | phyber | judging by his comments, it looks like he was a retard that got keylogged and then blamed it on every addon that he had loaded. |
14:38.09 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03kagaro * r600 / (10 files in 2 directories): GatherMate: Fixed naming of Expact to Expansion |
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14:38.40 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03kagaro 04v1.0.9 * r601 : Tagging as v1.0.9 |
14:38.57 | Bruners | can wow and lua execute a file? |
14:39.14 | Lukian | no |
14:39.31 | Bruners | then how do you sneak in a keylogger with addons? |
14:39.40 | Bruners | and make it run |
14:39.53 | Lukian | user has to manually run it or be tricked to |
14:39.55 | phyber | .exe installer for the addon or .exe in the zip and hope people are dumb enough to run it, i guess. |
14:40.01 | Lukian | "readme.txt .exe" |
14:40.02 | Repo | 10ab: 03Dridzt * r50 AB.toc: - repackage for externals |
14:40.13 | Lukian | so you can't see the extension in the zip file :p |
14:40.42 | Megalon | Bruners: PEBCAC ;) |
14:41.00 | phyber | chair and chair? |
14:41.11 | Megalon | chair and computer |
14:41.18 | Megalon | or pebcas |
14:41.21 | Tinyboom | PEBCAK is the word :p |
14:41.23 | Lukian | there's only cables down there? |
14:41.35 | Lukian | :p |
14:42.12 | Megalon | pebkac, pebmac, pebcac, pebkam |
14:42.16 | Megalon | list goes on |
14:42.40 | Lukian | keyboard and mouse? there's nothing there :p |
14:42.48 | Megalon | monitor |
14:43.01 | Lukian | my usb drive not plugged in? :p |
14:44.03 | Megalon | well, feeded enough i think :) |
14:44.08 | ckknight | Bruners: note that we don't allow exes to be approved on curseforge without source code anyway... |
14:44.18 | Lukian | amusingly, none of those apply to me ^_^ |
14:44.48 | Bruners | ckknight: that all good, but i was more wondering how |
14:44.56 | Lukian | my keyboard is on my chair and I'm lying in bed :p |
14:45.00 | Bruners | i dont really understand how people get hacked anyway |
14:45.08 | ckknight | yea, curse hasn't had a real keylogger in a good long time |
14:45.11 | Bruners | unless they do run a keylogger |
14:45.33 | Bruners | atleast 3 people in my guild got hacked |
14:45.48 | Lukian | there's trojans which target wow specificly too |
14:46.07 | Bruners | again how do you get them on your computer |
14:46.15 | cncfanatics | I played since vanilla release |
14:46.17 | Lukian | pebkac :p |
14:46.18 | cncfanatics | never got hacked |
14:46.22 | cncfanatics | people who do are tards :p |
14:46.27 | Lukian | ^ |
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14:46.42 | Bruners | i have had one virus in my life and it was in early 96 |
14:46.45 | Lukian | (net cafes probably aren't particularly safe either) |
14:46.50 | doom0r | Bruners: browser exploits, flaws in media formats |
14:47.03 | Lukian | surfing the web with IE |
14:47.07 | Lukian | oh wait, you said that |
14:47.34 | cncfanatics | being on internet with windows :p |
14:47.42 | quiescens | that's what you think |
14:47.59 | Bruners | i was on the interwebs with window 95 |
14:48.37 | cncfanatics | I would dare to say windows 98SE is safer then vista is |
14:48.39 | Lukian | windows is fine if you have a brain :p |
14:48.46 | quiescens | you have virus now and you just don't know! |
14:48.58 | quiescens | <PROTECTED> |
14:49.20 | Lukian | needed a couple more spaces quiescens :p |
14:49.26 | quiescens | ): |
14:50.56 | Bruners | i also wonder how people got virus on floppys before there was internet |
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14:51.39 | quiescens | people used to leave them in the drive and reboot |
14:51.44 | Lukian | I have one on floppy which I'm keeping :D |
14:52.42 | Bruners | the one and only virus i have had came from a floppy |
14:54.56 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1750 Modules/WrathoftheLichKing/wrathofthelichking.lua: Bad ItemID fixed |
14:55.06 | Bruners | any of you remember the old Flintstones "porn" ? |
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14:56.52 | Jygga | combine these things: carbonite does fanzy things and looks cool, young aspiring computer haxxor downloads stuff because it costs 2$ and you got a lot of people hacked ^^ |
15:03.56 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03next96 * r602 Locales/GatherMate-koKR.lua: GatherMate : |
15:03.57 | Repo | - Update locale koKR |
15:06.39 | Repo | 10digits: 03Satrina * r6 / (13 files in 4 directories): - Add CallbackHandler-1.0 dependency |
15:06.40 | Repo | - Fix runic power update for Deathknight |
15:06.44 | kenlyric | odd. |
15:06.52 | kenlyric | focuspettarget seems to make wand fail |
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15:07.19 | kenlyric | probably since it's autofire it has to actually change the target. |
15:07.20 | Kolie | Sup. |
15:08.52 | Repo | 10digits: 03Satrina 041.0.1 * r7 : Tagging as 1.0.1 |
15:10.51 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina * r98 / (22 files in 3 directories): Delete em |
15:11.13 | Repo | 10digits: 03Satrina * r8 / (7 files in 2 directories): Delete em |
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15:11.30 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.2.0-3-gdccc0b4 ActionButton.lua: [+1 commit] Changes to how Vehicle Buttons work, try to forward the click to the original buttons |
15:12.05 | Ihmemies | librock's minimap icon (screw) appears straight on top of blizzard's tracking type icon.. and i can't figure out a way to move it. any ideas? |
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15:14.12 | Xinhuan | the way to move it.. is to drag it, so kinda bad luck lol |
15:14.33 | Xinhuan | however if you relog, the screw will prob reappear in a different location |
15:14.42 | Stanzilla | I think in the updated rocklibs the button is disabled by default |
15:14.55 | steev | so, every time i log in, the addons/interface window is opened to OneBag3 - anyone happen to know what might cause this? |
15:15.13 | SunTsu | ~seen toadkiller |
15:15.17 | purl | toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-99-188-166-150.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 55m 13s ago, saying: 'I have issues right clicking pitbull and selecting "set focus"'. |
15:15.58 | Ihmemies | Stanzilla, it is, but i'd like to keep it visible.. |
15:16.07 | Ihmemies | easier than making a macro button for /rock :P |
15:16.10 | Repo | 10cartographer_quest-info: 03next96 * r69 Locale/Locale-koKR.lua: Cartographer_QuestInfo: |
15:16.10 | Repo | - Update locale koKR |
15:16.23 | Ihmemies | seems it really stays disabled by default.. it forgot the enabled setting when i relogged |
15:17.22 | Ihmemies | it also forgets config frame's transparency settings.. probably doesn't even really save them anywhere :S |
15:17.43 | Ihmemies | -,- |
15:18.29 | Ihmemies | maybe i'm using some ancient version |
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15:21.36 | Ihmemies | newest version doesn't save my settings either |
15:23.10 | Stanzilla | I think Arrowmaster played around with that, ask him :P |
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15:25.32 | Ihmemies | my main problem though was that there doesn't seem to be any way to hide icehud's bars when out of combat =D |
15:26.58 | Ihmemies | hmm ah |
15:26.58 | Ihmemies | transparency settings |
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15:31.35 | Ihmemies | altough there's no setting for text alpha... luckily it supports dogtags so i could hide text with it |
15:34.30 | Ihmemies | now if there was a way to gracefully fade in & out all that stuff :| maybe i should learn lua |
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15:45.08 | Arrowmaster | Ihmemies: its broken, never going to be fixed |
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15:46.08 | Ihmemies | :-----( |
15:46.09 | Ihmemies | Why not! |
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15:51.10 | Arrowmaster | because it has no way of saving the settings |
15:54.18 | asmodai | I wonder why questhelper sometimes loses its quest text in the tracker frame :S |
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15:55.04 | kadrahil | because you completed the quest? |
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15:55.32 | kadrahil | or because you're going in a different direction that it wanted you to so it updated another quest to be the primary objective? |
15:55.33 | Ihmemies | Arrowmaster, and there's no point implementing one? :( |
15:55.46 | kadrahil | so it's showing that quest's text objective in the tracker frame instead of the other one? |
15:55.56 | Arrowmaster | Ihmemies: nope since rock is dead |
15:56.28 | Ihmemies | bah. |
15:56.43 | Ihmemies | what i'm supposed to use instead of rock? |
15:56.43 | asmodai | nah |
15:56.52 | Ihmemies | 900000 separate config panels? :) |
15:56.54 | asmodai | you see the small rectangle to move the qh tracker frame |
15:57.04 | asmodai | but where it normally shows like 5 quests' text |
15:57.07 | asmodai | it suddenly is empty |
15:57.11 | neenee | How about waterfall or such |
15:57.16 | asmodai | no text whatsoever, yet the frame is there |
15:58.31 | asmodai | *does a reloadui* |
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16:00.19 | Ihmemies | I think rock was nice, it had all the stuff in same place and settings were easy to adjust! Maybe I was the only one then |
16:00.26 | Arrowmaster | you were |
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16:02.55 | Repo | 10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r5 Broker_RecZone.lua: Broker_RecZone: |
16:02.56 | Repo | - Fixes to tooltips |
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16:04.05 | Vexir | Is it possible to have a macro for reply-to-whisper? |
16:04.09 | Vexir | so i can put it on a bar |
16:04.27 | Vexir | very complex reason for this, involves button paging to get around the fact that mouse buttons cant be bound to shift,ctrl, and alt |
16:04.29 | Vexir | but anyway |
16:04.32 | Vexir | like perhaps some script |
16:04.37 | Vexir | or whats the slash command for it mabye |
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16:08.05 | SunTsu | Ihmemies: I liked the way rock did it _then_. Now Blizz' config panel is much better, IMHO. |
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16:08.25 | asmodai | mmm, reloadui didn't help |
16:09.16 | Vexir | Anyone? how can i represent reply-to-whisper with script/macro? |
16:10.20 | SunTsu | Vexir: "/r Thanks for the whisper"? ;) |
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16:10.43 | Vexir | haha... okay /r is sort of what im looking for |
16:10.44 | Vexir | but |
16:11.01 | Vexir | i'd like to be able to push a button on my bar which will then allow me to type in my response |
16:11.31 | EvilJohn- | you can't make a macro that has nothign but "/r" in it? |
16:11.39 | Vexir | will that work? sec |
16:12.18 | Vexir | no because then i actually say "/r" |
16:12.22 | Vexir | lol like /say |
16:12.51 | Vexir | actually /r isnt even an actual command |
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16:20.55 | ckknight | Vexir: yes it is... |
16:21.01 | ckknight | I thought it was, at least |
16:21.11 | Vexir | ckknight: then why when i type /r in game it just says /r |
16:21.13 | Vexir | lol |
16:21.19 | Vexir | yes, the official WoW website also lists /r as a command |
16:21.34 | ckknight | because you touch yourself at night |
16:21.54 | Vexir | you caught me |
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16:22.57 | Vexir | does /r work in game for you? |
16:25.05 | SunTsu | Vexir: /w also says /w as long as you don't giva an argument |
16:25.13 | SunTsu | s/giva/give/ |
16:25.39 | Vexir | but /r isnt supposed to have an argument |
16:26.04 | Vexir | its supposed to initiate a text box right? |
16:26.56 | SunTsu | Vexir: Only after you press space, you could want to write /raise instead |
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16:28.24 | Vexir | it doesnt tho |
16:28.32 | Vexir | i type "/r " |
16:28.42 | Vexir | oh wit |
16:28.44 | Vexir | *wait |
16:28.46 | Vexir | booyah! |
16:28.51 | Vexir | so how do i make that a macro |
16:28.59 | Vexir | just put "/r " as the macro? |
16:29.18 | Vexir | yay! it works |
16:29.21 | Vexir | thank you all |
16:29.50 | Vexir | turns out i didnt need it after all because i just figured out how to set my mouse buttons to ctrl shift and alt |
16:29.51 | Vexir | but |
16:29.53 | Vexir | yeah :D |
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16:30.42 | SunTsu | .o0( Am I the only one who does not see a relation between these two things? ) |
16:31.23 | Jaxon | durcyn: I downloaded it last night, but it loosk like LibBars wasn't included in the Heatsink download |
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16:33.07 | durcyn | Jaxon: okay, i'll check the paths, thanks |
16:34.10 | Repo | 10arl: 03TrAsHeR * r1096 RecipeDB/ARL-Mob.lua: Fix bug : |
16:34.10 | Repo | ["Ruins of Ahn'Qiraji"] > ["Ruins of Ahn'Qiraj"] |
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16:41.48 | Repo | 10arl: 03TrAsHeR * r1097 RecipeDB/ARL-Mob.lua: Fix anything bug |
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16:44.25 | asmodai | http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=213 |
16:44.28 | asmodai | dk is now class #2 |
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16:44.55 | asmodai | hey AckisWork |
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16:45.04 | AckisWork | morning |
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16:49.42 | Vexir | How would I go about writing a macro that uses the next best healing potion? |
16:49.50 | Vexir | or rather does anyone ahve a link to that for wrath? |
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16:51.34 | SunTsu | Vexir: /use <item> - and lots of them, all on a new line |
16:51.47 | Vexir | oh alright |
16:51.57 | Vexir | why does this person ahve /stopmacro [nocombat] before it though? |
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16:52.09 | Vexir | does that mean the macro will not work if out of combat? |
16:52.20 | Zyndrome | http://derdritte.soup.io/post/6961628/An-infinite-number-of-mathematicians-walk-into |
16:52.28 | SunTsu | Vexir: Because using potions out of combat is sort of dumb? |
16:52.37 | Vexir | haha |
16:52.59 | Vexir | was just wondering what the syntax meant |
16:53.03 | Vexir | thanks |
16:53.23 | Vexir | grr, wow wiki doesnt have wrath potions on it |
16:53.40 | Repo | 10utopia: 03Zeksie * r38 / (4 files in 1 directory): |
16:53.40 | Repo | Utopia: Couple of fixes/tidies, and removed the debug message when a debuff is replaced by someone else. ie: Same Judgement being applied by another. |
16:54.15 | Slayman | damn some days i hate my job very much, especially when it's time to do slave labor |
16:55.02 | SunTsu | Vexir: Yeah, it stops the macro when not in combat |
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16:58.20 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1098 ARLDataminer.rb: |
16:58.21 | Repo | Fix typos in the dataminer, need to do more changes later then rerun it to fix the localization errors. |
16:58.23 | asmodai | kadrahil: found it |
16:58.39 | asmodai | kadrahil: but feck if I know how I managed to make it disappear in the first place |
16:58.58 | asmodai | kadrahil: the move button/thinghy of the frame also acts as a 'blinder' |
16:59.11 | asmodai | if you click it once, it hides the text, click again, the text is back |
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17:06.20 | kenlyric | punches outfitter in the face |
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17:11.16 | Repo | 10libbabble-faction-3-0: 03Ackis * r66 LibBabble-Faction-3.0.lua: deDE update thanks to LarryCurse |
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17:14.52 | AckisWork | http://www.explosm.net/comics/1466/ |
17:16.19 | asmodai | heh |
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17:16.58 | AckisWork | asmodai: check out the report that was created |
17:17.00 | AckisWork | for arl |
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17:23.58 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Dally1991 * r699 Data/Hunter.lua: DrDamage: |
17:23.59 | Repo | - Added Focused Aim for Hunters |
17:24.25 | Repo | 10under-hood: 03Anadale 072 * r32 / (62 files in 11 directories): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
17:24.26 | Repo | UnderHood: |
17:24.27 | Repo | - Added modules for Combo Points and DK's Runes |
17:24.29 | Repo | - Localizable strings moved to corresponding localization files |
17:24.33 | Repo | - TOC files added for modules |
17:26.24 | Elkano | ~slap Arrowmaster |
17:26.25 | purl | ACTION slaps Arrowmaster, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
17:26.31 | Arrowmaster | ? |
17:26.40 | Elkano | why did you commit a change to FactionsFu? |
17:26.50 | Arrowmaster | because GetZoneText is evil |
17:26.56 | Arrowmaster | since blizzard always bugs it |
17:27.28 | Elkano | works fine for me so far... |
17:27.54 | Arrowmaster | im riding around and like every elevator changes GetZoneText |
17:30.26 | Arrowmaster | GetZoneText is only for display, you should never use it for logic |
17:31.43 | Elkano | well, anyways... heading home ^^ |
17:31.55 | AckisWork | have fun |
17:32.38 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Dally1991 * r700 Data (2 files in 1 directory): DrDamage: |
17:32.39 | Repo | - Fixed some spell entries in Priest.lua |
17:32.41 | Repo | - Cleaned up a couple of lines in Hunter.lua |
17:34.16 | Ihmemies | http://hakkarainen.kuvat.fi/tempo/icehud_runes.jpg where that stupid box around runes comes from -,- |
17:34.28 | Ihmemies | hmm, omnicc perhaps :S |
17:34.34 | Ihmemies | if it treats those as buttons? no idea |
17:34.39 | neenee | From one of the evil addons you use :) |
17:35.10 | Mikk | Something is painting the standard cooldown dial on top of them |
17:35.19 | Bruners | just tanked gundrak as level 74 DK |
17:35.21 | Mikk | And something (I assume OmniCC) is also printing the cooldown in seconds |
17:35.27 | Mikk | Where the dial comes from i do not know |
17:35.37 | Mikk | Bruners: try it at 72! |
17:36.03 | Bruners | would have to go back in time or level another one then :P |
17:36.20 | Mikk | ;) |
17:36.37 | AckisWork | teabags Mikk. |
17:36.37 | Ihmemies | it's omnicc |
17:36.38 | Mikk | Yaknow.. I have to wonder... |
17:36.49 | Mikk | Why does AutoBar only depend on PeriodicTable for the quest button? |
17:36.55 | Ironhand | can anyone tell me where I can currently download the mining/herbalism modules for Cartographer? |
17:36.57 | Ihmemies | pity it has to draw those as boxes instead of circles! |
17:37.02 | Mikk | It's like.. ALWAYS out of date |
17:37.16 | Mikk | And once it's updated, you've quested past the bits that you needed it for |
17:37.41 | Mikk | Ihmemies: check the config - it's entirely possible they can be disabled |
17:38.19 | Ihmemies | yes, but it disables them from all other buttons too then |
17:38.37 | Zhinjio | AckisWork: working on images again, since I didn't get a chance last night |
17:38.46 | Ihmemies | Use beql, it's nice quest log & tracker replacement :P |
17:38.55 | AckisWork | Zhinjio: sweet dude ty |
17:39.11 | Ihmemies | Well, I'll just live with the boxes |
17:40.04 | Mikk | PLAYTIME_TIRED = "You have more than 3 hours of online time. You will receive 1/2 money and XP during this period. Your rest state will reset in %d hours of offline time. Please go rest. "; |
17:40.11 | Mikk | PLAYTIME_UNHEALTHY = "You have more than 5 hours of online time. You will not be able to gain loot, XP, or complete quests. Your rest state will reset in %d hours of offline time. Please log out to get rest and exercise."; |
17:40.11 | Mikk | wtf |
17:40.24 | Mikk | In communist russia, wow plays you? |
17:40.34 | asmodai | China has something similar IIRC |
17:40.38 | AckisWork | is that Chinese? |
17:42.26 | Mikk | PROC_EVENT0_DESC = "No Proc Trigger Assigned. Tell Kevin."; |
17:42.37 | Mikk | shouldn't be reading GlobalStrings.lua, too much fun in it |
17:43.06 | Repo | 10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio * r23 / (2 files in 2 directories): - added in screenshot capability (off by default) |
17:43.25 | Repo | 10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio 041.8-release * r24 : Tagging as 1.8-release |
17:43.30 | Mikk | bwhaha, autoscreenshot on crit records? =) |
17:43.57 | Zhinjio | Indeed. It was requested. |
17:44.05 | Zhinjio | otherwise, I wouldn't have put it in. |
17:44.08 | neenee | I wouldn't want to have that enabled on a dual-wielder :P |
17:44.25 | neenee | Or on a Hunter using Volley for the first time :) |
17:44.28 | Zhinjio | yeah, especially during initial data gathering, you'll be screenshotting more than you won't be. |
17:45.15 | Repo | 10fubar_bagfu: 03phyber 04v1.1.2 * 120a8c4 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.1.2 |
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17:47.07 | Mikk | Seriously though, re autobar... wouldn't it make more sense to take like... all Quest/Quest items, scan tooltip for "Use:"? |
17:47.38 | Mikk | wtb toadkiller |
17:48.41 | Megalon | autobar uses PT for questitems? :x |
17:48.52 | Megalon | <3 Qbar :> |
17:50.39 | Repo | 10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.4.1-3-g90873f4 HotCandy.lua: [+1 commit] Rejuventation was increased to be a 15s HoT before talents, apparently. |
17:51.15 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: have you tried running hotcandy on a hunter for example? |
17:51.26 | nevcairiel | no :P |
17:51.32 | AckisWork | try it |
17:51.43 | nevcairiel | i dont have a hunter :( |
17:51.49 | nevcairiel | but the error was already fixed in alpha |
17:51.51 | AckisWork | any class that doesn't heal will work |
17:51.53 | AckisWork | ahh ok |
17:52.09 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r149 modules/PlayerNames.lua: enable the tab-complete option which was commented out |
17:52.12 | Repo | 10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 041.4.2 * 52d0bac /: [new tag] Tag as 1.4.2 |
17:52.25 | AckisWork | what really confused me is that error would constantly pop-up opposed to just show up once |
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17:54.12 | sylvanaar | fyi Mikk, prat does the following now: filter, newarg1 = filterFunc(arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7, arg8, arg9, arg10, arg11, arg12) |
17:54.18 | sylvanaar | satisfied? |
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17:54.46 | nevcairiel | Ah now thats unfair |
17:54.56 | nevcairiel | rejuvenation increases its duration on the last rank |
17:55.10 | nevcairiel | guess i'll just match that by level of the player, then <.< |
17:55.13 | sylvanaar | did you know that OnEvent of the chatframe is run in an evironment that is not getfenv(0) |
17:55.24 | Megalon | nevcairiel: only rank15 is 15s baseline :P |
17:55.37 | nevcairiel | yeah i just noticed |
18:00.28 | Repo | 10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.4.3 HotCandy.lua: [+1 commit] Anyway, Rejuvenation only increases its duration on the level 80 rank. HotCandy now checks if the player is level 80, and adjust the duration accordingly. Note that this might be inconsistent when you just hit 80 without a trainer visit for the new rank. |
18:00.29 | Repo | 10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 041.4.3 * 0e81b90 /: [new tag] Tag as 1.4.3 |
18:02.03 | Repo | 10cartographer: 03AbydosLanti * r2286 LICENSE.txt: Lib update |
18:02.29 | Xinhuan | someone find out what was changed in that liscense |
18:03.23 | sylvanaar | thats a good question |
18:03.44 | sylvanaar | i like how its called a "Lib update" |
18:03.46 | Xinhuan | i mean, changing a liscense.txt can't be a "lib update" |
18:04.04 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1099 ARLDataminer.rb: Lib update |
18:04.11 | Xinhuan | slaps Ackis away with a large trout |
18:04.18 | AckisWork | lol |
18:04.19 | AckisWork | had to |
18:04.27 | AckisWork | @project cartographer |
18:04.27 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/cartographer/. Cartographer. Game: WoW. Leader: ckknight. Authors: Moncai, AbydosLanti. Updated: 119 seconds ago. Tickets: 11/65 |
18:04.53 | sylvanaar | he added his name |
18:05.07 | Xinhuan | is that it? |
18:05.08 | sylvanaar | to the list of authors on the liscense |
18:05.10 | sylvanaar | yes |
18:05.35 | Xinhuan | should have had arrow's name too |
18:05.36 | sylvanaar | Copyright (C) 2006-2007 ckknight, Funkydude, kergoth, nymbia, kagaro, Abydos |
18:05.55 | AckisWork | http://ace.pastey.net/102234 |
18:06.04 | Xinhuan | should probably have my name and Arrowmaster's too |
18:06.14 | Arrowmaster | for cartographer? |
18:06.18 | Xinhuan | yeah |
18:06.33 | Xinhuan | that 2007 should also be 2008 |
18:06.37 | Xinhuan | pretty fail :) |
18:06.43 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: plan ahead and call it 2009 |
18:06.52 | Arrowmaster | me and ellipse worked on it a lot when ckk was mia |
18:07.03 | Xinhuan | i rewrote half of _waypoints |
18:07.11 | sylvanaar | why'd he call it a "lib update" though |
18:07.16 | sylvanaar | i still want to know |
18:07.54 | Arrowmaster | imho he shouldnt be adding himself since afaik he hasnt written shit for it, just trying to fix it for 3.0 |
18:08.04 | AckisWork | ~seen ellipse |
18:08.07 | purl | i haven't seen 'ellipse', AckisWork |
18:08.15 | Arrowmaster | ~eclipse |
18:08.16 | purl | well, eclipse is a kind of universal tool platform - an open extensible IDE for anything and nothing in particular. http://www.eclipse.org/ |
18:08.16 | AckisWork | how did I fuck up her name? |
18:08.20 | SunTsu | AckisWork: "Ellipsis"? |
18:08.21 | Arrowmaster | ~seen eclipse |
18:08.21 | purl | Arrowmaster: i haven't seen 'eclipse' |
18:08.27 | AckisWork | ~seen Ellipsis |
18:08.27 | purl | ellipsis <n=ellipsis@c-71-231-115-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 58d 3h 2m 30s ago, saying: 'now it's active hate'. |
18:08.30 | Arrowmaster | ~seen ellipsis |
18:08.30 | purl | ellipsis <n=ellipsis@c-71-231-115-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 58d 3h 2m 33s ago, saying: 'now it's active hate'. |
18:08.53 | SunTsu | In knew sbd. was missing |
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18:09.20 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster, Xinhuan: want me to commit your names/date change to the license since I have it checked out? |
18:09.28 | Arrowmaster | sure |
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18:09.35 | Xinhuan | dont' really care |
18:09.46 | Xinhuan | dont' really support cart2 anymore |
18:09.48 | Xinhuan | anyway |
18:09.49 | Arrowmaster | put mine before that other guy |
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18:10.25 | Repo | 10cartographer: 03Ackis * r2287 LICENSE.txt: |
18:10.26 | Repo | Lib update (add Xinhuan and Arrowmaster and Ellipsis to the license as well |
18:10.31 | AckisWork | :P |
18:10.41 | Repo | 10fubar_performancefu: 03Xinhuan 04v2.0.0b * r146 : Tag beta v2.0.0b |
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18:12.26 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: have you done the turkey slaying yet? |
18:12.30 | Xinhuan | ya |
18:12.40 | AckisWork | does it make you hostile to critters? |
18:12.53 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Dally1991 * r701 Data/Druid.lua: DrDamage: |
18:12.54 | Repo | - Fixed Nourish |
18:12.56 | Xinhuan | no, but i heard it does, for some people |
18:13.02 | phyber | yeah, it did for me. |
18:13.18 | phyber | and an angry turkey chased me into an instance |
18:13.26 | Xinhuan | i took a flightpath though right after completing it |
18:13.31 | Xinhuan | that might have removed the invisible buff |
18:14.29 | AckisWork | I want to die to a rabbit |
18:14.31 | AckisWork | a troll eating rabbit |
18:14.33 | AckisWork | om nom nom |
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18:15.48 | Xinhuan | did you see the bear called Hozzer ;p |
18:16.26 | AckisWork | no |
18:16.26 | AckisWork | eh |
18:16.26 | AckisWork | lol |
18:16.31 | AckisWork | gotta find that bear now |
18:16.36 | Xinhuan | hjord quest |
18:16.38 | Xinhuan | f* |
18:16.39 | AckisWork | I hit 77 and stopped leveling... I'm exploring shit |
18:16.42 | Aeyan | He's in the fjord |
18:16.45 | AckisWork | I haven't done the fjord |
18:16.47 | Aeyan | Over at the pirate isle |
18:17.10 | Jaxon | AckisWork: it made me hostile to critters, some of the neutral Shoveltusks and the dryads that give out quests in the north of the zone. |
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18:17.55 | AckisWork | Jaxon: could you do those quests still? |
18:18.02 | Xinhuan | yes |
18:18.05 | Jaxon | Had to log out/log back in so I could turn in the quests I had. |
18:18.07 | Xinhuan | relogging will clear the issue |
18:18.21 | AckisWork | ahh /sadface |
18:18.23 | Xinhuan | just a typical blizzard joke ;p |
18:18.26 | Fisker- | slaps Xinhuan around a bit with a large trout |
18:18.41 | AckisWork | I was hoping I'd be hostile to critters for ever |
18:19.03 | AckisWork | An elephant asked a camel "Why do u have boobs on your back?" |
18:19.04 | AckisWork | The camel replied, "Dude that's a good question for a guy who has a penis on his face." |
18:20.34 | AckisWork | Fisker-: http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/why_so_serious_drunk.htm |
18:20.51 | Jaxon | So for a zone that looks completely flat on the map, it is a lot more fun than I was expecting (Zul'Drak). |
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18:31.12 | Fisker- | slaps AckisWork around a bit with a large trout |
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18:39.02 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03mikk * r47 / (3 files in 3 directories): Add a few wrath quest items, run compresssplit |
18:39.34 | Fisker- | hurts AckisWork |
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18:41.49 | AckisWork | :( |
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18:53.19 | SunTsu | many: You said that you learned to steal clothes with your rogue? Are you tailor by chance, or how did you learn that? |
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19:00.04 | Repo | 10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.4.4 HotCandy.lua: [+1 commit] Fix Logic error |
19:00.05 | Repo | 10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 041.4.4 * 30beae3 /: [new tag] Tag as 1.4.4 |
19:00.22 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1100 / (3 files in 2 directories): Dataminer updates |
19:05.22 | Xinhuan | whats the escape code for \000 in lua hmm |
19:05.36 | Xinhuan | i mean the lua pattern for it |
19:05.39 | Xinhuan | for searching |
19:06.21 | Mikk | %z iir |
19:06.22 | Mikk | c |
19:06.43 | Mikk | lua> string.match("foo\000bar", "%z") |
19:06.43 | lua_bot | Mikk: |
19:06.46 | sylvanaar | i was confused about what %z matched. it just says zero |
19:06.50 | Mikk | lua> string.find("foo\000bar", "%z") |
19:06.50 | lua_bot | Mikk: 4, 4 |
19:06.53 | Mikk | is clevar |
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19:08.13 | Megalon | lua> string.find("foo\000bar", "\000") |
19:08.13 | lua_bot | Megalon: 4, 4 |
19:08.47 | Mikk | clearly too easy |
19:09.17 | sylvanaar | lua> for k in ("foo\000\bar\000foo\000bar"):gmatch("([^%z]+)%z?") do print(k) end |
19:09.17 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: foo, ar, foo, bar |
19:09.19 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1101 ARLDataminer.rb: |
19:09.19 | Repo | Data miner updates for more missing factions and to use babble boss instead of localizations. |
19:09.40 | sylvanaar | lua> for k in ("foo\000bar\000foo\000bar"):gmatch("([^%z]+)%z?") do print(k) end |
19:09.41 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: foo, bar, foo, bar |
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19:10.06 | Mikk | any particular reason for the "%z?" at the end? |
19:10.16 | sylvanaar | nope |
19:10.28 | sylvanaar | lua> for k in ("foo\000bar\000foo\000bar"):gmatch("([^%z]+)") do print(k) end |
19:10.28 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: foo, bar, foo, bar |
19:10.32 | Xinhuan | heh |
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19:12.18 | sylvanaar | lua> for k in ("foo\000bar\000foo\000bar"):gmatch("(%Z+)") do print(k) end |
19:12.18 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: foo, bar, foo, bar |
19:13.04 | sylvanaar | lua> for k in ("foo\000bar\000foo\000bar"):gmatch("%Z+") do print(k) end |
19:13.04 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: foo, bar, foo, bar |
19:14.48 | sylvanaar | lua> for k in ("foo\000bar\000foo\000bar"):gmatch("\000+") do print(k) end |
19:14.49 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , |
19:15.23 | sylvanaar | lua> for k in ("foo\000bar\000foo\000bar"):gmatch("[^\000]+") do print(k) end |
19:15.23 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: luabot:1: malformed pattern (missing ']') |
19:15.35 | sylvanaar | good stuff |
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19:17.30 | Xinhuan | lua> for k in ("foo\000bar\000foo\000bar"):gmatch("[^%z]+") do print(k) end |
19:17.30 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: foo, bar, foo, bar |
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19:17.54 | sylvanaar | %Z |
19:23.05 | asmodai | did 25th november do naxx with 20 or 25 man? |
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19:26.03 | linear` | 25 |
19:27.18 | asmodai | ta |
19:27.18 | Primer | On curse.com, at the top right it shows that I'm logged in, but when I try to comment, it tells me I need to be logged in |
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19:35.53 | Primer | How costly is it to hide your addon's frame on every onupdate? |
19:38.22 | Xinhuan | not very |
19:38.43 | Xinhuan | but more costly than having a boolean flag to check |
19:40.53 | Arrowmaster | also costly depending on how costly the OnHide and OnShow of the frame are if it has them |
19:41.45 | Primer | Xinhuan: ok, that's what I figured. Thanks |
19:42.06 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, the OnHide script doesn't get called if its already hidden |
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19:43.28 | Arrowmaster | yeah but if its running its onupdate then its not hidden |
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19:43.55 | Xinhuan | he didn't say its the same frame as the onupdate script ;p |
19:44.19 | Primer | there are no onhide or onshow |
19:44.30 | Primer | I do all the hiding and showing in the onupdate |
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19:54.39 | Primer | so pardon me if this seems like a stupid question, but, I've parented all the UI elements I use to the frame of my addon. Shouldn't hiding that parent frame hide that frame and all its children, even if the children are explicitly show()n? |
19:56.28 | Bruners | how do you make a macro to target a raid icon target? |
19:57.20 | Xinhuan | yes it does primer |
19:57.34 | SunTsu | Bruners: not at all |
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19:59.01 | Bruners | you cant do that? |
20:05.10 | Matrix110 | Is it possible to automatically leach my pet with the pet leach? :P |
20:05.15 | SunTsu | Bruners: No |
20:08.36 | Arrowmaster | Matrix110: its an item you use right? |
20:08.41 | Matrix110 | ye |
20:08.51 | Arrowmaster | probably no |
20:08.56 | Matrix110 | but its not a use: item |
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20:10.24 | Matrix110 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37460 |
20:12.09 | Ironhand | is there a Mining module available for the 3.0 compatible version of Cartographer? |
20:12.35 | SunTsu | Matrix110: Just put it into a macro to summon your pet |
20:12.51 | Matrix110 | Iam using a pet mod that rebinds "w" to summon pets :P |
20:13.04 | Matrix110 | Cant put ~60 pets in a macro :D |
20:13.05 | Repo | 10baldrick: 03LordFarlander * r95 / (2 files in 2 directories): Baldrick: |
20:13.06 | Repo | - Ticket 2: Added support for "Planning for the Future" |
20:13.23 | Repo | 10baggins_outfitter: 03daagaak 07master * fb4a74d Baggins_Outfitter.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed the "Any" filter, needs more work, will fail on a set |
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20:15.27 | Repo | 10baggins_outfitter: 03daagaak 041.0rc1 * ba7a2db /: [new tag] 1.0 rc1 |
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20:25.43 | mopped | Does anyone know a 'chardev' but with wotlk items? |
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20:27.54 | Repo | 10statlogiclib: 03Adirelle * r200 StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: - frFR locale fixes and updates. |
20:30.53 | Arrowmaster | Ironhand: the cartographer2 profession modules have been dead for a long time, use gathermate |
20:31.16 | abydoslanti | heys guys before i go and commit a really lame hack, i was wondering if there is a function similar to UpdateMapHighlight but that includes Dalaran too. |
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20:32.07 | abydoslanti | LibTourist uses UpdateMapHighlight to find a lot of information on a zone, but Dalaran cannot be highlighted so it cant find Dalaran. |
20:32.50 | Arrowmaster | no |
20:33.02 | Arrowmaster | there is no zone info for dalaran |
20:33.10 | abydoslanti | ok lame hack it is :( |
20:33.19 | Arrowmaster | whats the lame hack before you commit it? |
20:33.30 | Adirelle | oddly enough, I drycoded something that actually works... |
20:33.43 | abydoslanti | SetMapZoom(continentID, 3) zones["Dalaran"].texture = GetMapInfo() SetMapToCurrentZone() |
20:33.50 | abydoslanti | works afaik |
20:34.05 | abydoslanti | but ofc the continent id is checked |
20:34.11 | abydoslanti | make sure its Northrend |
20:34.17 | Arrowmaster | dont |
20:34.22 | abydoslanti | why |
20:35.49 | Arrowmaster | you can just add the texture name directly to tourist like the other zones do |
20:36.23 | Repo | 10libtourist-3-0: 03Arrowmaster * r70 LibTourist-3.0.lua: Add Dalaran texture name |
20:36.24 | abydoslanti | they do?.. |
20:36.24 | Arrowmaster | like that |
20:36.27 | abydoslanti | ok sec |
20:36.47 | Arrowmaster | the others that cant be found automaticly yeah |
20:37.07 | abydoslanti | ah right, thanks |
20:37.20 | Arrowmaster | dalaran is weird though and theres no possition or size info |
20:37.34 | Arrowmaster | not even in the data files |
20:40.29 | Repo | 10cartographer: 03AbydosLanti * r2288 Cartographer.lua: Fixed Dalaran |
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20:43.19 | abydoslanti | wouldnt happen to know the name of the wmo file for Ahn'Kahet would you? |
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20:45.08 | Arrowmaster | look in the tranlation file |
20:45.27 | abydoslanti | I have, cant find any mention of it with that name though |
20:46.00 | Arrowmaster | fire up wowmapviewer? |
20:46.51 | abydoslanti | ill check that out, thanks |
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20:56.55 | Repo | 10baldrick: 03LordFarlander * r96 / (2 files in 2 directories): Baldrick: |
20:56.56 | Repo | - Possible fix for ticket 1 (one quest has impaled the other Impaled in 3.0.x) |
20:59.26 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r220 / (2 files in 1 directory): BadBoy: blacklist update v2.1.0.6 |
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21:06.07 | Fin | hugs his new RAID-1'd 1TB free disk space |
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21:26.14 | Repo | 10brokerxp: 03cpw11 * r4 / (2 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 3 lines) |
21:26.15 | Repo | Added a bunch of new computations: |
21:26.16 | Repo | - Last XP gain and time ago |
21:26.17 | Repo | - "Instantaneous XP" based on recent activity (5 mins) |
21:26.21 | Repo | - This allows for trend analysis (xp rate increasing and decreasing) |
21:30.10 | Repo | 10brokerxp: 03cpw11 * r5 Broker_XP.lua: Fix for "typ" is nil error |
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21:36.13 | Tentacled | I'm sure everyone loves such questions... but when can one hope for Cart2 to include mine or equivalent fixes to Babble and Tourist, enabling DK area mapnotes and waypoints..? |
21:37.16 | Arrowmaster | likely never |
21:37.40 | Arrowmaster | since im guessing the waypoint module just cant support it |
21:38.10 | Torhal | And the fact that Cart2 needs to DIAF. |
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21:40.26 | Grum | indeed; why are people still using Cartographer2? |
21:41.01 | Torhal | Grum: I'm thinking it has something to do with not wanting to delete the folder from Interface/AddOns and then downloading Mapster. |
21:42.19 | AckisWork | people use Cart2 because Cart3 isn't 100% yet? :P |
21:42.40 | Arrowmaster | cart3 is never going to be 100% by their standards |
21:43.00 | Arrowmaster | since by design its not going to have everything cart2 had |
21:43.00 | NivFreak | god, wowhead really needs to cleanup thier naxx crap |
21:43.38 | NivFreak | AckisWork: I dislike cat3 |
21:43.40 | NivFreak | cart3 too |
21:43.49 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: I know but I was trying to touch on the "i used cart since cart1 and i ain't changin" :P |
21:45.46 | Tentacled | Arrowmaster: err... Waypointer behaves quite fine, actually, once the zone is in Tourist... |
21:47.16 | Tentacled | Maybe the battleground type in there was risque, but it was a start, making it work nicely as far as I tested it. |
21:47.31 | Arrowmaster | i removed that |
21:48.39 | NivFreak | I really hate all the flashy autopan/autozoom shit that cart3 tries to do |
21:48.46 | NivFreak | enough that I dumped it |
21:48.53 | NivFreak | and am trying to use carbonite |
21:48.56 | NivFreak | which is buggy as fuck |
21:49.06 | Arrowmaster | carbonite does the same thing..... |
21:49.14 | NivFreak | not really |
21:49.16 | Arrowmaster | did they make carbonite free? |
21:49.23 | NivFreak | carbonite quest is free |
21:49.37 | Arrowmaster | does that effect the map? |
21:49.38 | Tentacled | Arrowmaster: Can it be replaced with anything that works without breaking everything else? Or not, and that's the problem? |
21:49.41 | NivFreak | AckisWork: yes |
21:50.04 | NivFreak | also, I dislike carbonite, but at least I don't get dizzy watching it pan/zoom every fucking time I open my map |
21:50.28 | Arrowmaster | Tentacled: many people have completely droped cartographer2 and replaced it with other addons with an effective zero change of their interface |
21:50.38 | Arrowmaster | its fucking dead and useless |
21:51.05 | Stanzilla | I think there is no addon for auto corpse waypointing with funny messages :P |
21:51.07 | Torhal | NivFreak: Carbonite's author needs to get a fucking clue. Table usage so bad that forcing a garbage cleanup drops 5-10 megs of RAM usage. |
21:51.21 | NivFreak | the things I want out of a map mod 90% of the time: instance maps, waypoints, notes |
21:51.23 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah, thats the one missing thing |
21:51.25 | Fin | Arrowmaster: what have you replaced it with, if I can ask? |
21:51.26 | Arrowmaster | corpse point |
21:51.32 | NivFreak | Torhal: yea, it's garbage |
21:51.48 | Fin | haha, good one |
21:51.51 | NivFreak | not to mention that it tries to take over most of your UI |
21:51.55 | Tentacled | Arrowmaster: yet hundreds of people use it, and dozens of addons rely on it. Is it declared discontinued? |
21:52.08 | ckknight | I dislike the obfuscation. |
21:52.14 | Arrowmaster | Fin: Mapster, HandyNotes, TomTom, InstanceMaps, Cromulent |
21:52.16 | Torhal | Tentacled: It's on community life-support, which IMHO is doing more harm than good. |
21:52.19 | Fin | danke |
21:52.25 | Arrowmaster | Tentacled: 0 addons rely on it |
21:52.26 | ckknight | Cart2 is not discontinued. I'm planning on hacking on it soon |
21:52.40 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: you never will and you know it |
21:52.42 | Torhal | ckknight: I bet Arrowmaster just shit himself. |
21:52.44 | Torhal | Haha |
21:52.48 | Stanzilla | ~soon |
21:52.49 | purl | i guess soon is well before heat death, or http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon |
21:52.50 | Stanzilla | :P |
21:52.57 | NivFreak | oh, the other thing that I really loved with cart2, was the cartographer_data that someone was doing |
21:52.58 | ckknight | no, I have actual motivation now |
21:53.11 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: why just because we say its dead? |
21:53.14 | NivFreak | wowhead export of notes to my map? yes please |
21:53.16 | AckisWork | lol |
21:53.33 | AckisWork | NivFreak: gathermate_data |
21:53.34 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: no, separate issue |
21:53.36 | Tentacled | Arrowmaster: QH? |
21:53.47 | NivFreak | AckisWork: yea, I've been planning to try that again |
21:53.58 | Tentacled | Oh yes, there's TomTom, but TomTom uses the standard huge-ass map. |
21:53.59 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: it truely is doing a lot more harm right now trying to tell people it works than just killing it |
21:54.00 | NivFreak | I haven't tried mapster or tomtom |
21:54.15 | NivFreak | is Routes still standalone? |
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21:54.24 | Stanzilla | yes |
21:54.31 | Torhal | Tentacled: TomTom is for coordinates/waypoints only |
21:54.34 | Torhal | Get Mapster. |
21:54.40 | Arrowmaster | and when blizzard removes the global this event arg# vars cart2 is fucking dead |
21:54.57 | Arrowmaster | nobody is going to be able to fix that |
21:54.58 | ckknight | and they won't do that until 4.0 |
21:55.02 | Tentacled | Mapster has waypointing of its own? |
21:55.04 | ckknight | I think I have some time before then |
21:55.05 | Arrowmaster | its almost an entire rewrite just to fix that |
21:55.15 | Tentacled | I mean, QH-compatible? |
21:55.17 | Torhal | NivFreak: Routes is still standalone. |
21:55.24 | Arrowmaster | Tentacled: QH uses TomTom |
21:55.46 | Tentacled | So I'd have to switch one Cartographer2 for Mapster+TomTom+what else? |
21:55.55 | Fisker- | slaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout |
21:55.59 | Arrowmaster | i listed them all not long ago |
21:56.05 | AckisWork | ckknight: why fix cart2 when you're working with cart3? or is cart3 on the backburner now? |
21:56.11 | JoshBorke | who wants to run multiple addons when you can run just one? |
21:56.17 | Tentacled | Not preaching here, just considering alternatives, which don't seem sightly. |
21:56.19 | Arrowmaster | Mapster, HandyNotes, TomTom, InstanceMaps, Cromulent, GatherMate, Routes |
21:56.21 | NivFreak | because cart3 sucks clearly |
21:56.24 | Arrowmaster | just dont use the ones you dont want |
21:56.24 | Tentacled | JoshBorke: my point. |
21:56.31 | ckknight | AckisWork: because with the upcoming author rewards system, Cartographer nets me a lot of points |
21:56.31 | Torhal | Tentacled: Think of it as granular control. Instead of one huge fucking addon that walks your dog and washes your car, you can pick and choose. |
21:56.33 | Fin | starts working on getting properly drunk |
21:56.38 | ckknight | so I have motivation to keep it working |
21:56.43 | Arrowmaster | ckknight....... |
21:56.52 | NivFreak | lol |
21:56.58 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
21:56.59 | JoshBorke | hey, author rewards is a good motivator |
21:57.01 | Tentacled | Torhal: However, with these being all managed by different people, any of those can become broken at any time. |
21:57.01 | Xinhuan | i just rofled and choked on my wanton |
21:57.04 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: fine then im adding myself to cartographer project for all the work ive done on it in the past |
21:57.06 | AckisWork | giggles at ckknight |
21:57.08 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: lol |
21:57.13 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: sounds good to me |
21:57.15 | Torhal | Tentacled: Then find a replacement for the broken part. |
21:57.16 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: he can assign you a 0 though :P |
21:57.26 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: since if it wasnt for me it REALLY would be dead right now |
21:57.38 | JoshBorke | Tentacled: true, but the same could happen to any conglomorate mod also |
21:57.38 | Vexir | Anyone |
21:57.41 | Arrowmaster | and nobody would be using it since it was completely broken |
21:57.42 | ckknight | and I'll be sure to give you a fair percentage for what you've done |
21:57.47 | NivFreak | what is Cromulent? |
21:57.48 | Xinhuan | no Arrowmaster, only about 10 different fan updates would have sprung up ;p |
21:57.51 | Arrowmaster | since you went MIA |
21:57.58 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: quit lowballing |
21:58.03 | ckknight | Xinhuan: very likely |
21:58.07 | Torhal | NivFreak: Cromulent == FuBar_RecZone |
21:58.14 | Zhinjio | why are curse employees allowed to participate in that, out of curiosity>? |
21:58.19 | Xinhuan | hey Josh_Borke, how's that a lowball :< |
21:58.20 | ckknight | but that doesn't mean Arrowmaster's support isn't wanted or useful |
21:58.23 | NivFreak | Torhal: don't know it either :P |
21:58.24 | ckknight | Zhinjio: absolutely. |
21:58.36 | Zhinjio | you misread, ckk |
21:58.39 | Torhal | NivFreak: Basically shows a tooltip with recommended zones/instances for your level |
21:58.42 | ckknight | if not, I'd just quite curse and get a different job and net my author rewards points |
21:58.42 | ckknight | quit* |
21:58.43 | Zhinjio | I asked why |
21:59.00 | ckknight | oh |
21:59.00 | Zhinjio | heh |
21:59.01 | NivFreak | Torhal: ah |
21:59.05 | ckknight | because I and Kaelten made a bunch of addons |
21:59.11 | ckknight | and libraries |
21:59.16 | ckknight | why don't we deserve points? |
21:59.21 | ckknight | we're not going to cheat |
21:59.22 | JoshBorke | why shouldn't they be allowed to participate? |
21:59.24 | ckknight | and we have oversight |
21:59.31 | Zhinjio | you think thats going to be worth more than your salary at curse? |
21:59.35 | Zhinjio | thats... sad,somehow. |
21:59.43 | ckknight | no, it won't, by a long shot |
21:59.45 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: do any of those come with a pre-populated set of flightpoints? :) |
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22:00.04 | ckknight | but I could get a different job _and_ get my author rewards points, that'd be more than working for curse now |
22:00.06 | Arrowmaster | NivFreak: handynotes has a plugin that does, but it doesnt have northrend yet afaik |
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22:00.17 | ckknight | so I'd prefer to keep the job I like here and get my points, everyone wins that way |
22:00.21 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: ouch =/ |
22:00.32 | Kaelten | Zhinjio: I'd rather be able to participate myself |
22:00.36 | Kaelten | :) |
22:00.40 | ckknight | we haven't slipped in any Superman 3 stuff, btw |
22:00.44 | ckknight | even if we wish we could |
22:00.49 | NivFreak | you know |
22:00.55 | AckisWork | Kaelten: no points for you til onebank kk |
22:00.56 | NivFreak | it might not be bad for everyone, if you guys quit curse |
22:00.57 | NivFreak | :) |
22:00.58 | ckknight | steals 1/1000th of a point from Zhinjio |
22:01.10 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: still doing harm to perfectly good addons that work fine now to fix cartographer later, we have all agreed that the all-in-one design model sucks |
22:01.11 | Xinhuan | Kaelten already cheated, he has 9999999.999 points ;) |
22:01.19 | Kaelten | muhahaha |
22:01.33 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: "you have all agreed"? |
22:01.51 | ckknight | lol, Xinhuan, I was just testing the max points of the system and how the admin view looks |
22:01.58 | Arrowmaster | how many of the cart plugins are now dead? |
22:02.06 | Xinhuan | :D |
22:02.08 | fewyn | ok |
22:02.25 | fewyn | anyone know how to get the minimap textures (like the terrian stuff) from the game files? |
22:02.29 | Xinhuan | hmm, well the cart_<profs> one are *officially* discontinued already |
22:02.35 | ckknight | fewyn: I do |
22:02.36 | Arrowmaster | same with routes |
22:02.45 | Torhal | ckknight: Methinks you should LDB-ize FuBar if you wanna accumulate points from that as well. |
22:02.49 | Xinhuan | the rest seems fine |
22:02.51 | fewyn | ckknight: ooo tell me please! |
22:02.55 | ckknight | Torhal: yea, I want to |
22:02.56 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: dont fucking tell him that |
22:03.06 | Arrowmaster | me and Xinhuan are going to write FuBar4 |
22:03.14 | fewyn | ckknight: I need them for maps for dungeons/raids @ Allakhazam. |
22:03.19 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Then do it before he gets the motivation! :) |
22:03.24 | ckknight | you can call it a different name if you want |
22:03.24 | Arrowmaster | because if he does it then it will include backwards compat |
22:03.27 | Xinhuan | yes me and Arrowmaster wants to steal curse points muahahaha |
22:03.58 | ckknight | fewyn: check how Cartographer or Cartographer3 does it. I include the scripts |
22:04.05 | AckisWork | updates the LICENSE.txt for FuBar4, calls it a Library Update and adds himself to the author list. |
22:04.12 | fewyn | nonono i don't need it for an addon, i need it for out of the game |
22:04.27 | Xinhuan | ckknight, few people understand how your script works ;p |
22:04.32 | NivFreak | curse needs a voting system, if you get enough votes that your addons is broken/dead/sucks, it stops showing up in default search of the site and Client |
22:04.35 | ckknight | fewyn: yea, I know. |
22:04.38 | NivFreak | :) |
22:04.42 | Xinhuan | although i do heh |
22:04.57 | fewyn | i'll just ninja SS from cart3 i think |
22:04.57 | ckknight | fewyn: check the scripts in Cart/Cart3 |
22:05.01 | fewyn | oh |
22:05.02 | fewyn | ok |
22:05.14 | ckknight | fewyn: outside of that, I can't really help you, since I'd be helping a competitor to wowdb |
22:05.20 | fewyn | nod |
22:05.27 | Xinhuan | i hate having to code workarounds for the DK starting zone though |
22:05.27 | fewyn | i understand then |
22:05.27 | NivFreak | wowdb is boo |
22:05.32 | Xinhuan | its so crap |
22:05.36 | ckknight | also, why don't you work with wowhead? aren't you owned by the same parent company? |
22:05.42 | fewyn | We are |
22:05.51 | ckknight | and they don't have the data for you? |
22:05.54 | AckisWork | NivFreak: it would be nice to have a system to flag addons as "dead" |
22:05.57 | fewyn | Nien |
22:05.59 | AckisWork | fewyn: do you know darkflame? :P |
22:06.04 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: thats just because astrolabe doesnt have support for it right? |
22:06.08 | fewyn | Yes DF is one of my bosses =p |
22:06.09 | NivFreak | AckisWork: delete project works |
22:06.20 | Xinhuan | not sure Arrowmaster, i didn't check with essamyn |
22:06.29 | AckisWork | Xinhuan,NivFreak: wowdb is getting a lot better now that they updated for 3.0 stuff, although there are still a LOT of issues |
22:06.36 | NivFreak | here's a good example of why wowdb is booo |
22:06.38 | NivFreak | http://www.wowdb.com/location.aspx?id=3456 |
22:06.40 | AckisWork | NivFreak: abandon works better |
22:06.40 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: i didnt see info for it at all |
22:06.50 | Xinhuan | then it probably doesn't |
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22:07.18 | Arrowmaster | which is why you are having to code workarounds |
22:07.52 | Xinhuan | not really, its more because of the GetCurrentMapContinent() etc code returning -1, 0 |
22:07.55 | Xinhuan | for C, Z |
22:07.58 | fauxpas``` | hey everyone, is there a good alternative to numen? i've been using yata but it's just not the same :\ |
22:08.02 | Xinhuan | for that zone |
22:08.04 | Xinhuan | just like BGs |
22:08.10 | Xinhuan | but they aren't BGs, so i can't treat them like BGs |
22:08.15 | AckisWork | fewyn: do you work in the same building as her or something? |
22:08.18 | Xinhuan | that specific zone that is |
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22:08.40 | Xinhuan | hence it needed a specific if-then-else chunk |
22:09.03 | Xinhuan | ask ck, he'll know all about it hehe |
22:09.11 | Xinhuan | same issue he encountered in cart3 |
22:09.28 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: well bgs have coords too so why not just allow coords in bgs? |
22:09.32 | Arrowmaster | er notes |
22:09.41 | DarkAudit | Is there another bank addon to try until OneBank returns? |
22:09.46 | ckknight | oh yea, Scarlet Enclave is a bitch |
22:09.50 | ckknight | no rebuttal there |
22:09.56 | ckknight | hey AckisWork, up for testing stuff? |
22:09.59 | AckisWork | DarkAudit: just bug Kaelten about it |
22:10.14 | AckisWork | ckknight: I can't test local client stuff, but I can dick around with web stuff |
22:10.14 | NivFreak | DarkAudit: I switched from one* to combuctor |
22:10.15 | Xinhuan | the problem is the zone detection, we used GetCurrentMapContinent/Zone to get the C/Z values to reverse lookup the zone name |
22:10.22 | Kaelten | huh? |
22:10.26 | Kaelten | ~lart AckisWork |
22:10.26 | purl | stamps AckisWork on the forehead with the official Troll marker |
22:10.29 | AckisWork | lol |
22:10.35 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: you should be using GetMapInfo() to get the texture name |
22:10.45 | fauxpas``` | no numen replacement? :\ |
22:10.49 | Xinhuan | it does that too |
22:10.49 | fewyn | AckisWork: no we work from home |
22:10.51 | Xinhuan | you need both |
22:11.05 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: are you going to add northrend FPs to handmap_flightmasters? |
22:11.10 | Xinhuan | because GetMapInfo() returns nil for certain maps, but C,Z still returns -1, 0 |
22:11.11 | Arrowmaster | why do you need the localized zone name? |
22:11.18 | Arrowmaster | what maps? |
22:11.23 | Xinhuan | World map |
22:11.50 | Xinhuan | you end up needing a combination of mapmapinfo, C and Z to determine exactly which map you are on |
22:11.52 | ckknight | AckisWork: yea, gonna do stuff on beta.wowace.net |
22:12.03 | DarkAudit | NivFreak, I'll give that a look. OneBag is lagging every time I mouse over an item... especially when milling |
22:12.14 | AckisWork | ckknight: sure just tell me what/when |
22:12.23 | Xinhuan | right now, i coded it such that notes for the DK zone will show up when you are viewing the DK zone |
22:12.27 | ckknight | k, will be a few minutes |
22:12.34 | Arrowmaster | actually you just need GetMapInfo() and your addon to be coded with the rest of the info already in it |
22:12.35 | AckisWork | roger dodger bacon burger |
22:12.37 | Xinhuan | but it wont' show on continentlevel because there isn't translation in astrolabe yet to translate up to continentlevel |
22:13.15 | ckknight | ever see the movie Roger Dodger? |
22:13.18 | ckknight | I liked that movie |
22:13.26 | AckisWork | lol |
22:14.09 | Xinhuan | handynotes uses this: |
22:14.10 | Xinhuan | local continent, zone = GetCurrentMapContinent(), GetCurrentMapZone() |
22:14.11 | Xinhuan | local mapFile = GetMapInfo() or self:GetMapFile(continent, zone) -- Fallback for "Cosmic" and "World" |
22:14.29 | Xinhuan | it uses GetMapInfo() where possible, if it returns nil, it falls back to C, Z lookup |
22:15.28 | ckknight | yea |
22:15.34 | ckknight | GetMapInfo() works in the scarlet enclave |
22:16.22 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: do you know how Esamynn gets the info for the zone possitioning? |
22:16.24 | Xinhuan | C, Z will return 0,0 for BGs, -1,0 for DK, -1,0 for Cosmic and 0,0 for World |
22:16.28 | Xinhuan | pretty retarded right? |
22:16.44 | Xinhuan | GetMapInfo only returns nil for World/Cosmic though |
22:16.59 | Arrowmaster | thats weird |
22:17.11 | Xinhuan | haven't tested in SotA yet |
22:17.32 | Xinhuan | she mentioned she gets it from movement testing |
22:17.39 | kadrahil | so like |
22:17.42 | Tentacled | Xinhuan: actually, I wouldn't have DK area mapnotes viewable on the world map, ever... There's no point, since it all happens in some past and all. |
22:17.42 | Xinhuan | to a high accuracy |
22:17.45 | kadrahil | me and this pally are dueling |
22:17.46 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
22:17.48 | Xinhuan | so, it isn't actually data mined |
22:17.49 | kadrahil | in the dalaran sewers right |
22:17.56 | kadrahil | and for some reason neither one of us was giving up at 1% hp |
22:18.00 | kadrahil | like when we should have been |
22:18.09 | kadrahil | so we just stood there beating on each other for 30 minutes with both of us at 1% |
22:18.12 | kadrahil | er, 1 hp |
22:18.17 | kadrahil | my ghoul also didn't die |
22:18.18 | DarkAudit | death to paladins... defile and burn the corpses of the rets |
22:18.23 | kadrahil | no this is a bug |
22:18.26 | kadrahil | and really funny |
22:18.38 | AckisWork | no, you need to say: so like, this is, like a bug |
22:19.07 | kadrahil | AckisWork: shh |
22:19.16 | AckisWork | like shhh dude |
22:19.28 | kadrahil | . |
22:19.43 | kadrahil | so i said like a couple of times too many during that anecdote |
22:19.45 | kadrahil | get off me ;) |
22:20.10 | AckisWork | :P |
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22:24.16 | Xinhuan | should rename ackis's forum title to "lib update hero" |
22:24.20 | Xinhuan | :D |
22:25.42 | Tentacled | RetLib Paladin! |
22:27.22 | AckisWork | lol |
22:27.30 | Zhinjio | goddamn |
22:27.44 | Zhinjio | if I had a penny for every forum signup from a scriptbot... |
22:28.07 | Tentacled | funny captchas ++ |
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22:28.39 | Repo | 10digits: 03Satrina * r9 / (13 files in 4 directories): - Add CallbackHandler-1.0 dependency |
22:28.40 | Repo | - Fix runic power update for Deathknight |
22:29.23 | AckisWork | Zhinjio: been having issues with the dataminer (aka wowdb) so I haven't committed yet :( |
22:30.02 | Zhinjio | I'm in no hurry. it'll happen when it happens |
22:30.45 | Repo | 10broker-tradecooldowns: 03Zhinjio * r16 / (2 files in 2 directories): - fixed stupid bug |
22:30.50 | AckisWork | I have a detailed commit note that I want ot just change to: Lib Update, Dry-coded, Compiles with luac -p |
22:31.25 | Repo | 10broker-tradecooldowns: 03Zhinjio 041.5-release * r17 : Tagging as 1.5-release |
22:31.32 | Repo | 10digits: 03Satrina 041.0.2 * r10 : Tagging as 1.0.2 |
22:31.45 | Fin | [22:18:02] <kadrahil> so we just stood there beating on each other for 30 minutes with both of us at 1% |
22:31.55 | Fin | read that as "stood there beating each other off" at first |
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22:33.50 | AckisWork | hmm is it just me or do the proto-drakes look like dump? |
22:33.57 | NivFreak | I love the look |
22:34.10 | Repo | 10cartographer: 03AbydosLanti * r2289 Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Data.lua: Removed Ulduar map. |
22:34.12 | AckisWork | I think normal drakes > proto-drakes |
22:34.22 | AckisWork | (glad he had his drake as soon as 3.02 came out) |
22:34.32 | NivFreak | the drakes up in the basin, with all the burning trees |
22:34.41 | NivFreak | that's my favorite area that I saw in beta |
22:34.56 | NivFreak | I didn't see icecrown though, until last night\ |
22:35.12 | AckisWork | dragonblight has been my fav so far, looking forward to storm peaks (should get basin done tonight) |
22:37.28 | Zhinjio | ckknight, Kaelten : wowace ticket browser is pretty borked up... are you aware? |
22:37.35 | Zhinjio | is that just low priority? |
22:37.42 | Kaelten | link to what you're talking about? |
22:37.57 | Repo | 10guildmanager: 03ciscoh * r17 / (4 files in 2 directories): working on bug |
22:38.10 | JoshBorke | ~lart Kaelten |
22:38.10 | purl | drops a humongous exploding nuke on Kaelten |
22:38.17 | Kaelten | ~lart JoshBorke |
22:38.17 | purl | hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at JoshBorke |
22:38.17 | Zhinjio | for example: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/?filter_status=+ |
22:38.24 | Zhinjio | search by assignee, pick Zhinjio |
22:38.53 | Kaelten | bah |
22:38.57 | Kaelten | no I wasn't aware |
22:39.00 | Zhinjio | pl |
22:39.04 | Zhinjio | ok |
22:39.10 | Kaelten | ck is afk for a moment |
22:39.18 | Kaelten | I'll get him to look at it when he gets back |
22:39.19 | Zhinjio | I may have made a ticket for this already. I don't remember. |
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22:42.23 | Repo | 10surgeon-general: 03Brimmstone * r34 SurgeonGeneral.lua: Fixed error when manually inspecting people. |
22:42.30 | Lywellyn|afk | I have to say. Kaelten wins the lart war. |
22:43.16 | Zhinjio | Kaelten: I'm sure its just some stupid typo or something. It looks like all the other filtering criteria work fine |
22:43.22 | Repo | 10glassunitframes: 03h3nrym2 * r21 / (2 files in 1 directory): Pet Frame should now hide correctly when exiting vehicle. |
22:43.22 | Primer | I wonder if there's a "points on a map" library...it seems something like this would be useful |
22:43.35 | Primer | I guess Astrolabe? |
22:43.35 | Kaelten | ya it's likely something small |
22:44.15 | Primer | answer my own question |
22:45.09 | Fin | OBEY ME |
22:45.34 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1102 / (21 files in 3 directories): (Message trimmed by 5 lines) |
22:45.35 | Repo | Ackis Recipe List: |
22:45.36 | Repo | - Updated dataminer to account for more boss names. If you're translating and see a mob name that is a boss, please let me know. |
22:45.39 | Repo | - Updated unknown zone and unknown faction info so fewer recipes will have those listed (if you see this for anything other than the darkmoon faire one, let me know please) |
22:45.45 | Repo | - Updated faction info to add some generic declarations. For example, everything in Orgrimmar is considered |
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22:48.51 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r50 / (7 files in 3 directories): -fixed issue with aceaddon being around but no fubar |
22:48.52 | Repo | -added minimap icon for when fubar and ace are not around |
22:48.53 | Repo | -made so callbacks in core library are loaded on demand and only once |
22:48.56 | Repo | -almost rewrite for lib broker |
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22:50.08 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.1.8 * r51 : Tagging as 2.1.8 |
22:50.39 | Repo | 10arl: 03Zhinjio * r1103 img (26 files in 1 directory): AckisRecipeList: |
22:50.40 | Repo | - image updates |
22:50.41 | Repo | - removed poison images |
22:50.58 | Repo | 10guildmanager: 03ciscoh * r18 GuildManager.lua: minor changes |
22:51.22 | Primer | I guess what I was wondering earlier if there was a library that could manage points on a map. For example, if all addons that added points to a map used a library, addons could share that data more easily |
22:51.27 | Primer | or is this the case already? |
22:52.22 | Primer | and all addons could register with said library, and other addons could use their metadata |
22:52.33 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1104 Locals/ARLLocals-enUS.lua: Fix for missing locals |
22:52.44 | Primer | as well as provide distance and bearing to the point, relative to the place |
22:52.49 | Primer | s/place/player/ |
22:53.52 | Primer | for example, I'd like to be able to display handy notes and questhelper map points in my addon |
22:54.02 | Primer | without having to know how they implement points |
22:54.59 | cladhaire | you could write a library that defines a representation |
22:55.05 | cladhaire | but the other stuff is far from trivial |
22:55.15 | cladhaire | and to do most of it requires more "bloat" than most addon developers would be interested in |
22:55.21 | cladhaire | i.e. placing icons on the minimap is a difficult problem |
22:55.25 | cladhaire | placing them on the world map is not. |
22:55.47 | Primer | don't most addons use Astrolabe for that? |
22:55.51 | cladhaire | yes |
22:55.52 | Primer | I know yours do |
22:55.53 | cladhaire | but that's my point |
22:55.59 | cladhaire | Also the addons have different representations for the data they contain |
22:56.05 | cladhaire | what precisely are you interested in having access to |
22:56.15 | Primer | points from other addons |
22:56.15 | cladhaire | just the zone/x/y triplet? |
22:56.22 | Primer | that and metadata |
22:56.23 | cladhaire | or arbitrary data beyond that |
22:56.27 | Primer | like questhelper's text |
22:56.29 | cladhaire | well the metadata is where things get difficult |
22:56.39 | Primer | sure, each addon will have its own data |
22:57.14 | Primer | I haven't looked into this, but I've run into problems where some addons make all their data private |
22:57.19 | Primer | data/methods |
22:57.27 | cladhaire | then contact those authors |
22:57.40 | cladhaire | those who do stuff like that aren't likely to want to use a library like this, or the decision wasn't intentional |
22:57.58 | cladhaire | I don't know that a library (it feels like we write a library for everything) is the right way to go about things |
22:58.09 | cladhaire | common representation.. absolutely |
22:58.25 | Kaelten | Zhinjio: fixed |
22:58.57 | Primer | The only tricky part so far would be the data. Thing is, if that data were contained in a known structure, it's just a matter of knowing what you want |
22:59.41 | cladhaire | the probably with a library |
22:59.43 | cladhaire | rather than a standard |
22:59.44 | Jaxon | I think you might run into an issue tryign to get different developers donig things the same way then there are multiple addons for the same function because the addon developers wanted to do things their own way |
22:59.46 | cladhaire | is shit gets added |
22:59.53 | Primer | Anyhow, I've been thinking of making such a library as my addon's waypoint implementation |
22:59.54 | cladhaire | shit that doesn't belong in the library |
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23:00.06 | cladhaire | that's why most of us wouldn't use something like that |
23:00.23 | cladhaire | Where does it stop? |
23:00.26 | cladhaire | a function to add waypoints? |
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23:00.32 | cladhaire | that can't really be done in a general enough way |
23:00.42 | Repo | 10guildmanager: 03ciscoh * r19 / (4 files in 4 directories): delete some folders |
23:00.53 | Primer | I would use Astrolabe as a base, then wrap existing Astrolabe methods, and add a few more |
23:00.58 | Primer | Why not? |
23:01.02 | cladhaire | oh that would be a terrible idea |
23:01.03 | cladhaire | because |
23:01.08 | cladhaire | every addon needs different things |
23:01.12 | Primer | such as? |
23:01.33 | cladhaire | I need my callback system |
23:01.34 | cladhaire | for one |
23:01.50 | Primer | no reason why that can't be passed along |
23:01.59 | cladhaire | huh? |
23:02.09 | Primer | to a library |
23:02.11 | cladhaire | How can you write a sufficiently general AddWaypoint() function |
23:02.15 | cladhaire | that's what I don't understand |
23:02.15 | cladhaire | ... |
23:02.27 | Primer | hours of tedious typing? |
23:02.29 | cladhaire | no |
23:02.31 | cladhaire | you don't understand |
23:02.31 | Repo | 10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03StingerSoft * r137 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: ruRU update |
23:02.39 | cladhaire | you either end up implementing EVERYONE's features |
23:02.43 | cladhaire | or just a subset |
23:02.47 | cladhaire | either way, its not a general solution |
23:02.55 | cladhaire | that's specifically why I phrased it that way |
23:03.07 | Primer | one would ideally implement all known features |
23:03.12 | cladhaire | that's a terrible idea. |
23:03.18 | cladhaire | I won't use it, for that reason alone |
23:03.21 | Primer | in your opinion |
23:03.34 | Arrowmaster | most people wouldnt use it for that reason |
23:03.40 | cladhaire | well, I'm an author that you're talking to. |
23:03.47 | Primer | you guys are a tough crowd |
23:03.50 | cladhaire | TomTom does have quite a strong user base.. and I would not use a kitchen sink |
23:04.01 | Xinhuan | have you noticed that routes and gathermate deliberately doesn't use libraries other than ace3? |
23:04.02 | cladhaire | No, we're realistic |
23:04.05 | cladhaire | I'm not trying to shoot you down.. I'm trying to have a legitimate conversation |
23:04.05 | Arrowmaster | we have learned from our mistakes |
23:04.17 | Primer | cladhaire: I appreciate that |
23:04.31 | cladhaire | But... we do know what we're talking about here.. and we ARE your target developer audience |
23:04.39 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: you cant even use astrolabe for gathermate right? |
23:04.39 | cladhaire | so we shouldn't be pushed aside with "in your opinion" |
23:04.57 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster: i could, but it contained stuff we didn't want to use as well |
23:05.15 | Arrowmaster | i thought it had some limit on icons |
23:05.19 | cladhaire | and I've thought about making a subset on Astrolabe |
23:05.20 | Xinhuan | that too |
23:05.38 | Primer | ok, so if I wanted to make use of existing map points, say, from TomTom and QuestHelper, I'd basically need to 1) see if that data is public, and if so 2) figure out the data structure and get the data myself? |
23:05.50 | cladhaire | Primer: or standardize it |
23:05.54 | cladhaire | I said I'm fine with that |
23:05.57 | Primer | standardize the data |
23:06.00 | Primer | not the methods |
23:06.00 | cladhaire | You take it too far tho, and I was clear about that. |
23:06.04 | Xinhuan | you see, astrolabe contained a lot of things, most of which gathermate doesn't need ;p |
23:06.38 | cladhaire | So I have an API to calculate the distance/bearing between two arbitrary points in the world, and a way to determine where a waypoint should be placed on the minimap, or any world map (including battlemap) |
23:06.44 | cladhaire | then I can decide when, where, why and how to place my waypoints. |
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23:07.26 | cladhaire | Something that tries (and fails) to sufficiently generalize adding waypoints.. no thanks |
23:07.34 | Primer | cladhaire: ok, let me take it a step further. Does TomTom implement this code in a manner that could be used OUTSIDE of TomTom? |
23:07.39 | Xinhuan | 3 or 4 of my addons are capable of adding waypoints to tomtom, using tomtom's api |
23:07.43 | cladhaire | Primer: huh? |
23:07.47 | cladhaire | TomTom has an extremely rich API |
23:07.51 | cladhaire | so I don't understand the question. |
23:08.04 | Xinhuan | questhelper also does it fyi |
23:08.08 | Primer | cladhaire: I don't want to re-invent the wheel/cut and paste TomTom code into my addon if I don't have to |
23:08.15 | cladhaire | TomTom:AddWaypoint(), TomTom:AddZWaypoint() |
23:08.25 | Primer | except those become TomTom waypoints |
23:08.30 | Xinhuan | you're not supposed to, ppl are supposed to install tomtom as a companion addon |
23:08.37 | cladhaire | Duh?> |
23:08.40 | cladhaire | I don't understand your point |
23:08.44 | Xinhuan | thus waypoints are external to your addon |
23:08.56 | Jaxon | cladhaire: I think he wants to use TomTom API to create his own waypoints |
23:08.56 | chiper | he's not wanting to make tomtom show a point, he wants to tap into tomtom to give a different interface for where the waypoint is |
23:09.04 | Primer | Jaxon: I thought that was obvious |
23:09.04 | cladhaire | I suppose it would help if we understood what you were trying to actually accomplish.. |
23:09.11 | chiper | primer: right? |
23:09.12 | Xinhuan | no it wasn't, heh |
23:09.12 | cladhaire | You can create your own waypoints |
23:09.18 | cladhaire | habve you even looked at the damn code? |
23:09.28 | cladhaire | Or any of the many addons that use the API? |
23:09.28 | Primer | I have, briefly |
23:09.35 | cladhaire | well not enough.. clearly |
23:09.40 | Primer | I wasn't aware that other addons used its API |
23:09.40 | Jaxon | I think he wants to create PrimerWaypoints not TomTomWayPoints |
23:09.45 | cladhaire | function TomTom:AddZWaypoint(c, z, x, y, desc, persistent, minimap, world, custom_callbacks, silent, crazy) |
23:09.51 | cladhaire | Jaxon: yes.. I'm fully aware of that |
23:09.52 | Arrowmaster | why would you use tomtom to create your own waypoints? |
23:09.54 | cladhaire | and he's not paying attention |
23:09.58 | cladhaire | a.) that dosn't make sense |
23:10.02 | cladhaire | b.) you can already do this. |
23:10.04 | cladhaire | so.. |
23:10.05 | Xinhuan | quite a number of major addons use tomtom optionally, if tomtom is detected to be installed |
23:10.13 | Primer | such as? |
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23:10.17 | Arrowmaster | ..... |
23:10.18 | Primer | I'd like to inspect their code |
23:10.21 | Arrowmaster | questhelper |
23:10.22 | Jaxon | TourGuide |
23:10.23 | Xinhuan | carbonite, questhelper, routes, gathermate, handynotes |
23:10.25 | cladhaire | We've listed a ton |
23:10.26 | cladhaire | actually |
23:10.26 | Xinhuan | tourguide |
23:10.28 | Arrowmaster | a lot of Xinhuan's addons |
23:10.30 | cladhaire | but there are some more |
23:10.33 | cladhaire | or you could.. just ask me. |
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23:10.35 | chiper | primer: is this for flighthud? |
23:10.38 | Primer | sorry, must have missed that |
23:10.48 | Primer | chiper: it's my only addon :) |
23:10.51 | Primer | so, yes |
23:10.52 | cladhaire | Why on EARTH are you using TomTom in the first place, if you don't want TomTom? |
23:10.58 | cladhaire | or even considering it |
23:11.00 | chiper | right, so you're not trying to make tomtom show a waypoint |
23:11.02 | cladhaire | why would you not just use Astrolabe.. |
23:11.08 | Primer | cladhaire: I am displaying a waypoint in my HUD |
23:11.14 | Primer | as a dot |
23:11.14 | chiper | you're trying to make flighthud show the tomtom information |
23:11.22 | Primer | that floats in the HUD |
23:11.29 | Primer | and moves left/right as you pan right/left |
23:11.33 | Xinhuan | so why didn't you say that in the begining |
23:11.37 | chiper | he did |
23:11.39 | Xinhuan | he didn't |
23:11.41 | cladhaire | so you want to implement what GatherHud already does? |
23:11.48 | Primer | all you have to do is line up the mount with the point |
23:11.48 | cladhaire | What's different? |
23:11.48 | Arrowmaster | so you would either need to add your own api and get everybody to add support for your addon, or hook into tomtom if its detected |
23:11.50 | Jaxon | Or SexyMap's HUD? |
23:11.58 | chiper | infact, I remember him stating this desire months ago |
23:11.58 | Xinhuan | ^ |
23:12.08 | Primer | I've never seen any of these 2 addons you've just mentioned |
23:12.13 | cladhaire | chiper: well I wasn't here a month ago, and he didn't bring my addons up. |
23:12.27 | cladhaire | I'm here answering questions without getting much information (when I asked SPECIFICALLY) about what he is trying to accomplish |
23:12.29 | cladhaire | so forgive me. |
23:12.45 | cladhaire | If you want to display TomTom's waypoints on your magical-superhero-HUD |
23:12.51 | cladhaire | you need to give us an API and ask us to add support |
23:12.55 | cladhaire | or hook to add support yourself |
23:12.57 | Primer | cladhaire: no need to demean my addon :( |
23:12.59 | cladhaire | its as simple as that, really |
23:13.01 | Arrowmaster | gatherhud only works with gathermate points though right? |
23:13.02 | cladhaire | I'm not demeaning? |
23:13.08 | cladhaire | How is "magical-superhero-HUD" demeaning? |
23:13.11 | cladhaire | I don' tknow what the fuck it's called |
23:13.12 | Xinhuan | gatherhud only works with routes/gathermate |
23:13.14 | cladhaire | so I gave it a name :P |
23:13.23 | Xinhuan | because it taps into their databases directly |
23:13.31 | Pneumatus | does anyone know, is Guardian Spirit capped on the amount of HP it returns now? |
23:13.46 | Xinhuan | to make its own display |
23:13.47 | cladhaire | Here's the moral of the story.. a generalized API for adding waypoints isn't the solution :P |
23:13.53 | Repo | 10equivalence-points: 03Pericles * r54 / (2 files in 1 directory): EquivalencePoints: |
23:13.53 | Repo | - fix of Expertise rating bug awaiting permission to commit LibItemBonus fix. |
23:13.56 | Primer | I should have made a video of the waypoint code that I had that worked |
23:14.04 | Primer | it'd be much easier to demonstrate |
23:14.08 | Repo | 10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.4.5 HotCandy.toc: [+1 commit] Fix version number |
23:14.09 | Repo | 10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 041.4.5 * e11edf9 /: [new tag] Tag as 1.4.5 |
23:14.14 | Primer | I'm not aware of any addon that does what I'm trying to do |
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23:14.20 | Primer | SexyMap is just a minimap |
23:14.39 | Primer | you have to point an arrow at a point at the edge of the circle...not entirely accurate |
23:14.42 | Jaxon | the HUD Map is pretty awesome for gathering stuff. |
23:14.46 | Xinhuan | sexymap has an option to create a 2nd minimap that is an overlay |
23:14.51 | chiper | you want the point to show up on your declination line, correct? |
23:14.52 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
23:14.57 | Primer | but it's still an arrow with a map, right? |
23:15.04 | Xinhuan | and routes/gathermate has an API that allows us to reparent our stuff to the 2nd minimap |
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23:15.14 | Xinhuan | so it just works, like that, out of the box :) |
23:15.37 | Primer | Xinhuan: can you point me to a screenshot of GatherHud that shows this? |
23:15.42 | Primer | please |
23:15.51 | Xinhuan | primer, gatherhud has nothing to do with waypoints |
23:16.10 | Xinhuan | all it does is read gahtermate/routes's savedvariables, and display it in its own hud |
23:16.36 | Primer | well, sexymap and gatherhud have been suggested as doing what I want already |
23:16.38 | Primer | sexymap does not |
23:16.48 | Primer | I still don't want to re-invent the wheel |
23:16.49 | chiper | primer: if I remember FlightHud correctly, really all you're looking for is the radial of the point, and maybe a distance value, so you can plot them on your hud. |
23:16.50 | clad|sleep | sighs |
23:16.59 | Primer | chiper: I have this |
23:17.01 | Xinhuan | what you seem to want is to display waypoints added to tomtom in your hud? is that it? |
23:17.05 | clad|sleep | Xinhuan: it appears you have my point of view in mind, so I'll leave this to you so I can go to sleep |
23:17.08 | chiper | oh... then what's the issue? |
23:17.24 | Primer | clad|sleep: I really appreciate your input :) |
23:17.38 | Primer | Xinhuan: that's one thing |
23:17.41 | clad|sleep | No problem, you can always shoot me an email.. I'm around all the time :P |
23:17.46 | Primer | perhaps I should start anew |
23:17.49 | Primer | clad|sleep: thanks, man |
23:18.25 | Primer | Allow me to introduce, FlightHUD: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/flight-hud.aspx |
23:18.34 | Primer | There's a video and screen shots on that page |
23:19.07 | Jaxon | Were you just trying to avoid implmenting different solutions based on which notes/waypoints addon is being used while supporting the widest userbase as possible? |
23:19.08 | Primer | my addon implements an ugly ass green frame with some graphics that move. It looks like a fighter jet's Heads Up Display, shows pitch, compass heading, speed, etc |
23:19.26 | Primer | Jaxon: allow me to get to that in a few |
23:19.28 | Xinhuan | i've seen it, you even asked me 200 questions about how to write it :) |
23:20.00 | Primer | anyhow, I've always wanted to add "waypoints". In one version, I actually had working waypoints. In fact, I think I need to tag that in svn |
23:20.02 | Axodious | k, im having a weird bug which i believe is only affecting my wowace addons... it starts with my cowtip erroring with an appearance.lua error (which i dont have :() after that a ~6-7 addons (i believe all graphic related such as bartender, pitbull, etc) stop working and error with [c code] errors |
23:20.18 | Axodious | i can fix it by restarting my game |
23:20.25 | Axodious | er reloading ui* |
23:20.34 | Arrowmaster | you should get the error message |
23:20.44 | Axodious | yeah, bugsack cleared it when i reloaded |
23:20.47 | Primer | I represent a waypoint as a dot in my HUD, and underneath it there is metadata which is "text that describes waypoint", distance, and bearing in degrees |
23:20.53 | Axodious | i think its a memory usage error |
23:21.04 | Xinhuan | well, so you copied parts of carto_waypoints code for it, i remember |
23:21.24 | Primer | I can line up that point with a hash mark in my huh, and head straight to it, or I can position my mount until the bearing reads 0 degrees |
23:21.29 | Axodious | i havent posted a ticket in the cowtip project cause im not quite sure if its cowtip or something else |
23:21.34 | Primer | meaning, I heading straight for it |
23:21.45 | Jaxon | Doesn't Bugsack store errors between sessions? |
23:21.46 | Arrowmaster | Axodious: set bugsack to save errors then |
23:21.57 | Axodious | ! did not know oyu can do that, will do Arrowmaster |
23:21.58 | Arrowmaster | it can Jaxon but its an option |
23:22.01 | Repo | 10libtourist-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r71 LibTourist-3.0.lua: Add Obsidian Sanctum to Instances |
23:22.09 | Axodious | oooh |
23:22.10 | Axodious | it is saved |
23:22.11 | Axodious | sec |
23:22.21 | Arrowmaster | should be a show all errors? |
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23:22.25 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, do you use any addon that uses that lib? heh |
23:22.27 | Arrowmaster | instead of session errors |
23:22.34 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: yeah LoggerHead :D |
23:22.38 | Primer | My goal, as Jaxon asks, is to integrate other addons' points into my HUD, as an option. If (TomTom) addTomTomPoints(), If (QuestHelper) ... etc |
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23:22.49 | Xinhuan | o_O |
23:22.53 | Xinhuan | sounds like overkill |
23:23.01 | Xinhuan | should just use IsInInstance() |
23:23.12 | Arrowmaster | it uses it for options |
23:23.13 | nevcairiel | It uses it to configure which instantes to track |
23:23.19 | nevcairiel | instances* |
23:23.20 | Xinhuan | ah |
23:23.21 | Primer | I guess I lost everyone's attention...anyhow, it seems that the addons I'm mostly interested are TomTom based |
23:23.35 | Primer | so I guess I'll just stick with figuring out the TomTom API |
23:23.41 | Xinhuan | you're missing the point i think primer |
23:23.43 | clad|sleep | Well TomTom doesn't have an API to export waypoints |
23:23.58 | Xinhuan | most addons are standalone, they only OPTIONALLY support tomtom (i.e the addon works fine without tomtom) |
23:24.00 | clad|sleep | and the "other addons" you refer to wouldn't be accesible via any API |
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23:24.09 | Arrowmaster | Primer: well with questhelper only one waypoint at a time is sent to tomtom afaik |
23:24.11 | Axodious | Arrowmaster: http://pastebin.ca/1261831 |
23:24.20 | Axodious | it wasnt showing the powa error on initial error |
23:24.22 | Xinhuan | meaning, questhelper, for eg, would work fine by itself |
23:24.24 | Axodious | after cowtip it went --- |
23:24.33 | Xinhuan | but it can optionally add a waypoint to tomtom to show you way to walk towards |
23:24.54 | Xinhuan | and that option will only show up if tomtom is installed |
23:25.05 | Xinhuan | it has nothing to do with "tomtom-based" |
23:25.17 | Primer | I see |
23:25.18 | Arrowmaster | Axodious: im going to blame powerauras while i go take a look at its code |
23:25.23 | Axodious | k |
23:25.24 | Xinhuan | in fact, our addons also detect to see if carto_waypoints is installed, and give the option to add a waypoint there |
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23:25.33 | Axodious | any power aura replacements? |
23:25.39 | Xinhuan | of course, no sane person would install both at the same time |
23:25.39 | Axodious | (im kinda fond of flashy) |
23:25.52 | Primer | Axodious: power auras is updated |
23:25.54 | Arrowmaster | wheres that power auras from? |
23:25.59 | Primer | unless that's not the reason you're asking |
23:26.05 | Axodious | its not :) |
23:26.11 | nevcairiel | hm |
23:26.12 | Axodious | wowi Arrowmaster |
23:26.14 | nevcairiel | WWS fails |
23:26.16 | Xinhuan | that is to say, you can implement your own waypoint system in flighthud, and ask authors to detect your addon and optionally add waypoints in there |
23:26.18 | Axodious | its called power auras classic |
23:26.19 | nevcairiel | it breaks on 4H |
23:26.42 | Pneumatus | anyone know if grid has been updated to deal with people showing as ghosts when they release from naxx? |
23:26.51 | Primer | Xinhuan: it just seems odd to me that there are so many separate implementations of the same thing |
23:27.40 | Primer | i.e. waypoints |
23:27.40 | Xinhuan | there's only 2 known implementations - carto_waypoints and tomtom |
23:27.40 | Xinhuan | i haven't heard of a 3rd |
23:27.40 | Primer | granted, each has its own data, I concede that |
23:27.40 | Axodious | Arrowmaster: it MAY have something to do with weapon enchants in power auras i recently added checks for my windfury/flametongue enchants |
23:27.40 | Axodious | but im not sure if the errors started before/after |
23:27.55 | Jaxon | nevcairiel: I don't know about your guild, but we aren't going to be using WWS anymore, switching to http://code.google.com/p/stasiscl/ |
23:28.01 | Xinhuan | similarly, there are only 3 addons right now that track gathering nodes - gatherer, carto_<profs> (discontinued) and gathermate |
23:28.20 | Xinhuan | there are addons that tap into these databases (some of the 3, or even all 3) |
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23:28.26 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
23:28.30 | Arrowmaster | ..... |
23:28.33 | Primer | Xinhuan: right |
23:28.35 | Arrowmaster | 2.5.9a.... |
23:28.41 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/lightheaded/ HAHAHAHAH |
23:29.11 | Arrowmaster | "awsome quest assistant goes great with questhelper includes notes on qeusts and coords " |
23:29.11 | Lywellyn | AckisWork: wth? |
23:29.25 | Primer | Xinhuan: I'm actually looking at handynotes for what I'm doing |
23:29.33 | Primer | in fact, I pulled a bunch of code from it |
23:29.39 | Primer | I credit you, of course :) |
23:29.46 | Xinhuan | i hope you understand what you're pulling |
23:29.58 | clad|sleep | AckisWork: Arrowmaster: hehe |
23:30.00 | Arrowmaster | AckisWork: you deleting it? |
23:30.02 | Primer | all I've pulled so far is the dialog window for adding a point |
23:30.12 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: yes |
23:30.16 | Bruners | what is the correct color for runic power? |
23:30.20 | AckisWork | clad|sleep: damnit you're supposed to be asleep |
23:30.24 | Jaxon | AckisWork: I get a 403 on that page, what amusing thing am I missing :( |
23:30.35 | Lywellyn | Jaxon: I was wondering the same thing |
23:30.38 | clad|sleep | yeh yeh |
23:30.40 | clad|sleep | going to sleep now :P |
23:31.15 | Arrowmaster | Axodious: are you sure you have the 2.5.9a version of powerauras from wowi? |
23:31.23 | Xinhuan | hmm i should get Kaelten to give me curseforge admin, so i can see stuff too ;p |
23:32.18 | Arrowmaster | Axodious: i downloaded it to look at the code and the line numbers do not match up at all, infact the one i got has atleast half the line count |
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23:33.25 | Axodious | hm |
23:33.27 | Axodious | sec |
23:33.31 | Arrowmaster | and holy shit this is bad |
23:33.39 | Axodious | im using 2.5.9a yes |
23:33.40 | Arrowmaster | globals everywhere |
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23:38.13 | Primer | In my code I use IsFlying(), but IsFlying() only returns true if my mount is actually in the air. Is there a function that shows that I'm mounted on a flying mount? Other than looking at all possible buffs for a match to a flying mount using libperiodictable? |
23:40.23 | Axodious | lol after reading the error for power auras i can almost guarentee its my weapon enchants |
23:40.28 | Axodious | i deleted them for now |
23:41.02 | Arrowmaster | yeah that code is bad |
23:41.20 | Fin | dreams of electric sheep |
23:41.38 | Lywellyn | dreams of sheep on an electric fence |
23:41.46 | Repo | 10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles * r81 / (2 files in 1 directory): InventoryOnPar: - |
23:41.48 | Repo | v11.06 - Fixed Minutes between updates option error on click |
23:41.48 | Repo | Forced command line parse to identify uppercase & mixed case commands |
23:42.18 | Lywellyn | in any case, penguin > turtle > pig > sheep. |
23:42.24 | Repo | 10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles 04v11.06 * r82 : InventoryOnPar: - |
23:42.25 | Repo | Release v11.06 to Curse.com |
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23:43.35 | Primer | what about black cat? |
23:43.45 | Gnarfoz | cat > all |
23:43.47 | Arrowmaster | the tooltip its using for scanning, Powa_Tooltip, inherits GameTooltipTemplate, which is probably why CowTip is trying to modify it |
23:43.52 | Lywellyn | cat? |
23:44.01 | Primer | Lywellyn: black cat, yes |
23:44.05 | Primer | you buy it in Dalaran |
23:44.08 | Primer | 2500g |
23:44.09 | Lywellyn | WHAT |
23:44.09 | Primer | ~ |
23:44.17 | Primer | vendor |
23:44.17 | Primer | mage shop |
23:44.21 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44709 . |
23:44.23 | Lywellyn | NO WAI. |
23:44.29 | Primer | YAH WAI |
23:44.57 | Gnarfoz | Transforms the enemy into a harmless black cat, forcing it to pussyfoot around for up to 50 sec. |
23:45.00 | Gnarfoz | :P |
23:45.28 | Axodious | <Arrowmaster> yeah that code is bad <- wish there was something of equiv/better that wasnt disc. & recontinued |
23:45.31 | Lywellyn | Son of a bitch. I hope it's easier to get money at 80....Jesus. With that three-person mount at damn near 20k, now this. ;_; |
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23:46.37 | Gnarfoz | it was easy to get money at 70 |
23:46.42 | Gnarfoz | how much more easy does it have to be :D |
23:47.03 | Lywellyn | It took me forever to finally get 5k. 'course, that was before I was doing the Netherwing dailies, I think. |
23:47.07 | Primer | Lywellyn: that's a limited supply item, btw |
23:47.19 | Gnarfoz | you taking forever doesn't mean it's not easy. :p |
23:47.36 | Lywellyn | Gnarfoz: away with you, demon. :p |
23:47.55 | Gnarfoz | /etc/init.d/Gnarfoz stop |
23:48.02 | Gnarfoz | :X |
23:48.19 | Megalon | kill -9 Gnarfoz |
23:48.26 | Primer | killall |
23:48.28 | Gnarfoz | oh noes :O |
23:48.31 | Gnarfoz | -15 plx |
23:48.43 | Gnarfoz | be nice :P |
23:49.05 | Primer | renice -n -10 `pidof Ganrfoz` |
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23:49.44 | Kody- | Oh... black cat polymorph book, http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=44709 -- check out the tabs :P |
23:50.29 | Xinhuan | "check out the tabs" <-- whats there to see? |
23:50.30 | Lywellyn | 63 people? wow. |
23:51.04 | Kody- | Hm, you don't see the "Recently Acquired By" tab, Xinhuan? |
23:51.08 | Xinhuan | no |
23:51.12 | Lywellyn | I do |
23:51.14 | Gnarfoz | useless statistic :O |
23:51.18 | Gnarfoz | why do you even gather that |
23:51.20 | Arrowmaster | Kody-: you should get me in contact with somebody that can run a db query for me on wowdb |
23:51.21 | Xinhuan | i only see Sold By, Comments and Screenshot |
23:51.40 | Kody- | Gnarfoz: It's just the same data as the looted info on character profiles |
23:51.44 | Xinhuan | also it can't be a caching issue on my end since this is actually the first time i've visited wowdb in about a month ;p |
23:51.53 | Lywellyn | that's probably why I didn't see her at first. s he's a mobile NPC. |
23:52.00 | Kody- | Xinhuan: Try hard refreshing it |
23:52.06 | Kody- | I actually didn't see them until I did |
23:52.13 | Xinhuan | refreshing it worked |
23:52.23 | Gnarfoz | Kody-: sure, but I don't want to show up there. including guild name, character name and even time :O |
23:52.32 | Xinhuan | why the refresh is required is odd though |
23:52.34 | Gnarfoz | (that's why I don't run curseprofiler, but you get my point) |
23:53.01 | Arrowmaster | Axodious: so you were getting that error perty consistantly? |
23:53.07 | Kody- | Gnarfoz: it was a popular feature on WarDB, but yeah I think it should be something you can opt out of |
23:53.08 | Xinhuan | see, i don't understand why non-mages bought it ;p |
23:53.13 | Xinhuan | unless its for their main mage alt |
23:53.22 | Kody- | Probably their alt, or to game the AH |
23:53.22 | Lywellyn | Xinhuan: AH. |
23:53.23 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: ripping of stupid people on the AH :p |
23:53.30 | Jaxon | I'd enver been to WoWDB on this computer before today and I had to hard refresh it, that doesn't make any sense. |
23:53.36 | Xinhuan | for 2500g it'll be pretty hard to rip |
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23:54.31 | Kody- | Also added Worn By and Crafted By tabs: http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=42508#craftedby |
23:54.32 | Lywellyn | So anyone on Silver Hand have a few gees they're willing to part with? >.> |
23:54.43 | Kody- | Crafted By is probably another one that needs an opt out |
23:55.07 | Xinhuan | i think that's a bit stretching it isn't it |
23:55.18 | Xinhuan | particualrly since people can switch professions |
23:55.37 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
23:55.46 | Arrowmaster | theres a deathknight listed on there |
23:55.48 | Kody- | Hrm good point, I need to find out how that list is maintained |
23:56.04 | Kody- | wow |
23:56.11 | Kody- | Poor guy |
23:56.38 | Xinhuan | noobs |
23:56.59 | Arrowmaster | 3 dks and a rogue in the first 50 |
23:57.07 | Arrowmaster | gota be bugged |
23:57.25 | Arrowmaster | a warlock in the 2nd 50 |
23:57.27 | Xinhuan | armory them |
23:57.30 | Xinhuan | do they really exist? |
23:57.36 | Xinhuan | are they really DKs? |
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23:58.41 | Lywellyn | WoWDB says my spec is "Arcane Fire PvP"....what the hell? |
23:59.01 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
23:59.03 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03kouik 06dkclone * r711 Data/DeathKnight.lua: (Message trimmed by 7 lines) |
23:59.03 | Repo | A lot of unholy love with as guest stars : |
23:59.04 | Repo | -Cleaned up things for diseases detection. |
23:59.05 | Repo | Crypt fever added (ebon plaguerider will follow, but I don't want to respec each time, I need to finish tests before ;) ) |
23:59.07 | Arrowmaster | the warlock on the 2nd page |
23:59.09 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Akama&n=Freezepop |
23:59.11 | Repo | - Rage of Rivendare |
23:59.37 | Hjalte | I remember an addon being able to announce when someone got a specific debuff, anyone remembers what it is called? |
23:59.38 | Arrowmaster | must have used it for get a skillpoint or something |
23:59.50 | Jaxon | Or a guildmate |
23:59.52 | Arrowmaster | but still thats kinda silly |
23:59.52 | Jaxon | Or to sell |