| 00:00.28 | Parnic | yeah, i inherited this project using self.db.account and have never bothered to change it :) |
| 00:00.42 | Parnic | kinda like how the entire addon is aceoo structured and needs to be re-written :P |
| 00:00.56 | Arrowmaster | aceoo is evil |
| 00:01.01 | Parnic | i know, i know. :) |
| 00:01.30 | Parnic | it's comfortable for c++ devs, though :) |
| 00:02.18 | Parnic | i don't suppose you know how quartz has acedb's "Profiles" option page without explicitly defining it, do you? |
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| 00:19.02 | clad|sleep | Parnic: http://oldsvn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace3/AceDBOptions-3.0/ |
| 00:19.07 | clad|sleep | Parnic: that's all they use |
| 00:19.15 | Arrowmaster | thats for ace3 |
| 00:19.24 | clad|sleep | oh, he's not using Ace3? |
| 00:19.26 | Arrowmaster | in ace2 it was done automaticly since acedb was a mixin |
| 00:19.33 | clad|sleep | ah |
| 00:19.34 | clad|sleep | yuck |
| 00:20.15 | Arrowmaster | gah trying to update this data is teh suck |
| 00:22.32 | Parnic | ah, i think i know what the problem is. the options table is defined in a separate file from the db. gross |
| 00:22.48 | Parnic | this addon uses "core" as the spot where the db comes from and the main .lua defines the options separate. sigh |
| 00:24.21 | Arrowmaster | pasting a 254kb file into vim over ssh is funny |
| 00:25.57 | Arrowmaster | i 'think' its still going |
| 00:32.35 | Parnic | for educational purposes: looks like self.db.profile isn't directly settable, but a shallow copy seems to be working |
| 00:32.44 | Parnic | though i'm sure a deep copy is the better method |
| 00:35.31 | Arrowmaster | lol i broke vim |
| 00:35.51 | Arrowmaster | its using 99% cpu |
| 00:35.59 | Parnic | nano for life? :P |
| 00:36.08 | Arrowmaster | fuck nano |
| 00:37.04 | Torhal | Motherfuck. |
| 00:37.31 | Arrowmaster | ill go watch Toaru Majutsu no Index - 07 then while i wait to see if it ever finishes pasting |
| 00:37.36 | Torhal | Blizzard killed SaveView() for camera views and there's no way I've found to access the raw data for something like a SavedVar |
| 00:38.02 | Torhal | Only thing I've found is GetUnitPitch() |
| 00:38.10 | Torhal | But that only helps for up/down |
| 00:38.18 | Arrowmaster | theres cvars |
| 00:38.54 | Torhal | Well, since SaveView() still exists but only persists per-session, I'm assuming the CVars wouldn't work either. |
| 00:39.07 | Torhal | I could try though |
| 00:39.33 | Torhal | Though it'd be a big hack since SetView() is useless without the SaveView() data |
| 00:39.49 | Torhal | Hell, there would be no hack. One won't work without the other. |
| 00:39.55 | Torhal | Meh. |
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| 00:43.40 | NivFreak | gdi |
| 00:43.43 | NivFreak | server crashed |
| 00:43.53 | NivFreak | it's as laggy and unstable as beta was |
| 00:44.06 | NivFreak | just started tonight, I think as more people go to stormpeaks |
| 00:44.19 | Repo | 10broker-currency: 03Azethoth * r20 core.lua: |
| 00:44.20 | Repo | -- Add some history: today/yesterday/this week/last week. Basically MoneyFu code courtesy of ckknight. |
| 00:45.28 | Repo | 10broker-currency: 03Azethoth * r21 Broker_Currency.toc: -- v3.00.02.03 beta |
| 00:45.49 | Repo | 10broker-currency: 03Azethoth 04v3.00.02.03 beta * r22 : Tagging as v3.00.02.03 beta |
| 00:46.16 | Xinhuan | Torhal, what's wrong with SaveView() |
| 00:46.25 | Torhal | Doesn't persist. |
| 00:46.31 | Torhal | As of 3.0.2, apparently |
| 00:46.37 | Xinhuan | what do you mean |
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| 00:46.58 | Torhal | I was about to write a camera view addon, and did some research |
| 00:47.09 | Torhal | Well, apparently it does not save the data |
| 00:47.12 | Xinhuan | "doesn't persist" means...? |
| 00:47.21 | Torhal | It persists during the session, but upon relog you're hosed. |
| 00:47.26 | Xinhuan | ah |
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| 00:47.38 | Torhal | Thereby making the addon idea useless. |
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| 00:48.05 | Xinhuan | camera view, not much you can do about it |
| 00:48.16 | Xinhuan | best you can get closest to is your character's angle |
| 00:48.27 | Xinhuan | which you can detect if rotate minimap is on |
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| 00:49.09 | Torhal | Well, I wanted to do was set the zoom/pitch upon certain events. SetView() and SaveView() use 1-5, with 1 being reserved for 1st person |
| 00:49.18 | Xinhuan | or possibly by your angle with your arrow on the world map |
| 00:49.33 | Xinhuan | wait, hmm |
| 00:49.36 | Xinhuan | yeah you can |
| 00:49.38 | Torhal | Blizzard broke SaveView() in 3.0.2, so this no longer works |
| 00:49.52 | Xinhuan | use a combination of GetUnitPitch/playerarow direction ;p |
| 00:50.04 | Torhal | What about zoom? |
| 00:50.14 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 00:50.14 | Torhal | If I wanted to zoom out when entering combat... |
| 00:50.31 | Xinhuan | zoom not sure heh |
| 00:50.58 | Torhal | I actually started working on this because CombatCam seemed broken, and the code for it is messy |
| 00:51.14 | Torhal | It turned out to not be broken: Blizzard just fbared the View system |
| 00:51.23 | Torhal | s/fbared/fubared |
| 00:52.50 | Torhal | If I could do the zoom some other way I would pursue it. But as it stands, there's no SetUnitPitch() so it's moot |
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| 01:00.54 | Arrowmaster | theres a cvar to completely disable saving and restoring of serverside data, have you tried using it? |
| 01:07.54 | Xinhuan | lol DnT server first obsidian slayer |
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| 01:10.42 | NeoTron | dang it all, autobar doesn't work on northrend quest items :( |
| 01:10.44 | Slayman | do I now have some voice? |
| 01:11.12 | NeoTron | is there another addon that has a dropdown for quest items? |
| 01:11.28 | Slayman | combuctor has a category for QItems |
| 01:11.29 | doom0r | i just use qbar |
| 01:11.41 | doom0r | and qbar button facade |
| 01:12.50 | NeoTron | Answer: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11005-QuesterJester.html |
| 01:13.45 | NeoTron | and it seems qbar is another answer |
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| 01:43.59 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1087 ARLFrame.lua: (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 01:44.00 | Repo | AckisRecipeList: |
| 01:44.01 | Repo | - search button isn't enabled for default text anymore |
| 01:44.02 | Repo | - enable search button after typing in new text |
| 01:44.06 | Repo | - disable search button after search succeeded |
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| 01:48.12 | Slayman | hey dogtaghelp is still nonfunctional is there and outgame reference like wiki? |
| 01:48.15 | Slayman | ~dogtag |
| 01:48.26 | Slayman | purl, DogTag |
| 01:48.32 | Slayman | purl, stupid bot |
| 01:48.32 | purl | Stupid human. |
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| 01:49.24 | Slayman | anyone, ping |
| 01:49.31 | Aeyan | Pong |
| 01:49.35 | Gnarfoz | PONG |
| 01:49.55 | Slayman | mmh need dogtaghelp, point me to the wiki if you please |
| 01:50.04 | Gnarfoz | what wiki. |
| 01:50.08 | Gnarfoz | and we read it the first time |
| 01:50.13 | Gnarfoz | obviously, no one knew or cared :p |
| 01:50.32 | Slayman | Gnarfoz: i was unsure if i had voice since purl did not respond |
| 01:50.39 | Gnarfoz | voice? |
| 01:50.44 | Gnarfoz | the channel is not moderated :p |
| 01:50.44 | Aeyan | http://old.wowace.com/wiki/LibDogTag-3.0/API_Documentation |
| 01:50.59 | Aeyan | I thought dogtag had it's little ingame sandbox thing, though |
| 01:52.01 | Slayman | Aeyan: it had but that doesn't work right now, appears to be known issue, i hope |
| 01:52.06 | Aeyan | Ah |
| 01:52.12 | Aeyan | Well, it's not really being worked on right now |
| 01:52.17 | doom0r | it works |
| 01:52.23 | Aeyan | ckk's been busy with work + WAR, hehe |
| 01:52.50 | doom0r | known issue and already fixed in newer version are not the same |
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| 02:00.34 | Gnarfoz | wth |
| 02:00.48 | Gnarfoz | ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter seems so straight-forward |
| 02:00.59 | Gnarfoz | yet, I fail at using it, apparently Oo |
| 02:02.28 | Saroz | it's buggy |
| 02:03.52 | dracula | does anyone know how to obtain the tooltip text of mounts? |
| 02:04.10 | Gnarfoz | Saroz: buggy in that it simply eats messages even though first return is not true? |
| 02:04.17 | Saroz | yes |
| 02:04.25 | Saroz | or oposite |
| 02:04.44 | dracula | I tried using GameTooltip:SetSpell(1, BOOKTYPE_PET) |
| 02:05.02 | dracula | but the tooltip is unaffected... it works fine for BOOKTYPE_SPELL |
| 02:07.28 | Slayman | what the heck i cleared all the questhubs known to me and still nowhere close to the achievement 105 quests some spot must be missing! |
| 02:08.25 | Gnarfoz | Slayman: zone? ^^ |
| 02:08.34 | Slayman | Howling Fjord |
| 02:08.36 | Groktar | that was lame |
| 02:08.41 | Groktar | so we won wintergrasp |
| 02:08.41 | Slayman | horde |
| 02:08.58 | Groktar | and we started a raid so we could do the boss |
| 02:09.00 | Megalon | Slayman: horde? |
| 02:09.02 | Groktar | and then the gate was closed |
| 02:09.37 | Slayman | Megalon: yes horde in the fjord out of quests |
| 02:09.43 | Megalon | got the 105 quests achievement easy in HF |
| 02:10.22 | Megalon | http://www.wowhead.com/?zone=495 => Horde Questgivers |
| 02:11.33 | Megalon | many forget the 2 quests south of nifflevar |
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| 02:20.32 | Slayman | Megalon: you made the quests in Scalawag Point? the npcs are hostile to me and i can't seem to change that |
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| 02:25.25 | Slayman | i got it! i think! |
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| 02:29.52 | Slayman | yes i got it, not that actually |
| 02:30.28 | Megalon | yea |
| 02:31.02 | Megalon | you have to do kamagua quests until they sent you to grennix, who gets you there without them being hostile |
| 02:31.35 | Slayman | Megalon: yeah but you need to start at the ancient lift, otherwise it's a no go |
| 02:36.11 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Nope. I'll look into it, though. Danke. |
| 02:36.29 | Arrowmaster | ? |
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| 02:41.02 | doom0r | recount really needs a pause |
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| 02:58.24 | Repo | 10magealert: 03yheen * r29 magealert.lua: Removed file/folder |
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| 03:01.08 | Slayman | ah south Sea pirates and northsea pirates don't like each other. I like em both 'arrrr |
| 03:01.26 | Repo | 10magealert: 03yheen * r30 magealert.xml: change colors |
| 03:02.57 | Repo | 10magealert: 03yheen * r31 magealert.lua: change colors |
| 03:16.04 | Repo | 10itemprice-1-1: 03Arrowmaster * r52 / (6 files in 2 directories): |
| 03:16.05 | Repo | Update for WotLK with 4756 more item prices! For a total of 28321 prices! Due to increase in prices, the values are now compressed into 4 bytes instead of 3 bytes. |
| 03:16.05 | Repo | I spent many hours writing my own armory dataminer and gathering a new set of prices then trying to merge it with the old values since Bam and his dataminer are MIA |
| 03:16.11 | Repo | Including my data files before compression into the mod to prevent anybody else from having to redo everything I did, they shouldn't get included in the zips though |
| 03:16.42 | Arrowmaster | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 03:16.47 | Arrowmaster | yay! |
| 03:18.12 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: What information in particular do you mine from the Armory? |
| 03:18.15 | Stanzilla | long commit note is long |
| 03:18.25 | Arrowmaster | sellvalue |
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| 03:19.21 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: most awesome indeed. many kudos. <3 |
| 03:19.33 | Hirsute | Ah. Would it make you mad if I told you I have a perl script that mines that data that I'd have let you use if I'd known you wanted it? |
| 03:19.37 | Gnarfoz | nymbia: it's you! |
| 03:19.46 | Arrowmaster | i used ruby |
| 03:19.53 | Hirsute | Ah, fair enough. |
| 03:19.56 | nymbia | Gnarfoz: where? |
| 03:20.10 | Hirsute | Yours is probably more efficient than mine anyway. |
| 03:20.19 | Arrowmaster | that should hopefully include all quest rewards since the armory should have them, it wont include all drops though |
| 03:20.32 | Gnarfoz | nymbia: not sure. |
| 03:20.37 | Arrowmaster | infact the armory didnt even have the 20k gold mounts |
| 03:21.18 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: just run it some times over the next days/weeks and check if anything new comes up per run, right? :> |
| 03:21.35 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: How long does it take you to crawl the whole armory? |
| 03:21.44 | Arrowmaster | took a few hours |
| 03:21.47 | Hirsute | Aye |
| 03:21.50 | Hirsute | Me too. |
| 03:22.16 | Gnarfoz | nymbia: but, there's this PT-3.1 thing I'm uncertain about, but maybe it's Toadkiller's fault anyway: autobar doesn't show the new healing/mana potions? :\ (even though they're listed in the appropriate categories in PT-3.1-consumables, at least that's what grep told me) |
| 03:22.18 | Hirsute | I cache the pages locally so that if I'm just scanning for new items it'll go much faster. |
| 03:22.55 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r38 / (4 files in 4 directories): -- Runic mana + injectors |
| 03:22.55 | Repo | -- More quest items |
| 03:23.08 | Arrowmaster | but i cheated and extracted Items.dbc from the mpq's and used that to get a list of itemids to mine instead of querying every single possible itemid between 1 and MAX |
| 03:23.35 | Hirsute | Yar. Much better way to go about it. |
| 03:23.50 | Arrowmaster | theres about 5k missing itemids between 1 and 45k |
| 03:24.15 | Gnarfoz | nymbia: now, seeing that commit right there... >_< |
| 03:24.31 | nymbia | Gnarfoz: huh... that's a little odd. check and make sure he doesnt have those sets overridden in his specific sets |
| 03:25.13 | Gnarfoz | nymbia: first, I'll get that rev of PT3.1 and see if it changes anything, then I'll check :> |
| 03:25.31 | nymbia | sounds good |
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| 03:28.30 | kadrahil | what does "Error retrieving character list" mean? :( |
| 03:28.38 | kadrahil | i just got dc'd from my server and i can't get back in |
| 03:28.48 | Loonacy | It means they don't like you. |
| 03:28.52 | kadrahil | :( |
| 03:29.15 | Loonacy | I didn't feed my characters enough and they left me. :( |
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| 03:41.39 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r39 / (2 files in 2 directories): -- Runic pots |
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| 03:55.09 | Slayman | 102/105 now that's more like "I've toured the Fjord" |
| 03:55.35 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1088 / (17 files in 3 directories): fix for BS issue |
| 03:56.51 | Gnarfoz | nymbia: arrrg :> he fix'd it about 5 minutes before I figure out what was wrong :D |
| 04:00.22 | Torhal | Interesting: |
| 04:00.22 | Torhal | Viewfinder.lua:73: Usage: RegisterEvent("eventname", "methodname"): 'methodname' - method 'PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED' not found on self. |
| 04:00.22 | Torhal | What the hell did I fuck up there? |
| 04:00.26 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r190 / (10 files in 2 directories): - Fix another UI problem (All button stopped working) |
| 04:00.27 | Repo | - Add WotLK cooking skills and recipes |
| 04:04.23 | Torhal | Meh. Would help if I defined Viewfinder:PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED() |
| 04:07.32 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys 04v1.1-beta13 * r191 : Tagging as v1.1-beta13 |
| 04:07.33 | Repo | - Fix a few UI issues |
| 04:07.33 | Repo | - Add WotLK cooking skills |
| 04:16.20 | Parnic | if an addon is using fubarplugin-2.0 and the user doesn't have fubar installed, is there any way to remove the addon's icon from the minimap? |
| 04:17.03 | FroMaster | In a macro, how can I check to see if I'm mounted and if I am to NOT execute /cast charger? |
| 04:17.40 | Parnic | fromaster: [mounted] is the conditional |
| 04:17.58 | Parnic | . /cast [mounted] charger, i believe should work |
| 04:18.08 | Parnic | er, not mounted |
| 04:18.58 | FroMaster | I need the opposite of that statement. If I'm mounted, I don't want to /cast charger |
| 04:19.07 | Parnic | right, so [nomounted] instead of [mounted] |
| 04:19.09 | Parnic | sorry |
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| 04:19.51 | Gnarfoz | Parnic: should be, normally. it's the addon's job to make sure that functionality can be accessed, though. fbp-2.0 has some requirements that have to be met to make certain features work. |
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| 04:20.31 | Parnic | gnarfoz: yeah, i have everything working fine if the user has fubar. toggling minimap attachment is all groovy. but if no fubar is installed, then there's no option in the drop-down menu to detach it from the minimap |
| 04:20.52 | FroMaster | . /cast [not mounted] charger - Does not work... |
| 04:20.59 | Gnarfoz | and why would there be, where would it detach to. :> |
| 04:21.01 | Parnic | fromaster: i said [nomounted] |
| 04:21.10 | Gnarfoz | but there should be hide plugin, IIRC |
| 04:21.12 | Parnic | gnarfoz: nowhere. as in "don't put this on the minimap" |
| 04:21.15 | EBLUME | Hi there. I'm trying to learn AceConfig-3.0 but I have a bit of a problem. I want to have a command-line function which takes an argument of a string... so it would be /myaddon search the quick brown fox, which would run a search for "the quick brown fox" |
| 04:21.17 | Parnic | if i use hide, then it disables the addon :P |
| 04:21.20 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 04:21.27 | EBLUME | What is the AceOptions "type" of such a command? |
| 04:21.28 | Gnarfoz | you just need to set 'standby without disable' |
| 04:21.30 | EBLUME | And how do I configure it? |
| 04:21.33 | FroMaster | Parnic: I've been staring at the pc way too long.. It works just fine now |
| 04:21.55 | Gnarfoz | Parnic: errr I mean... hide without standby... thing. there is something like that. :D |
| 04:22.04 | Parnic | thanks gnarfoz :) |
| 04:22.07 | Parnic | i'll look for it |
| 04:22.30 | Gnarfoz | I hope I'm not misremembering. If all else fails, bug ckknight, he wrote it after all. :P |
| 04:22.52 | Parnic | i see "Hides the plugin, disables the plugin if cannot hide without standby." in the notes, but no explanation of what my mod needs to do to say that it *can* hide without standby |
| 04:22.58 | Parnic | so now it's time to dig through fbp's code :) |
| 04:23.04 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: hrm? |
| 04:23.07 | eblume | Any tips on how to configure an AceConfig command that takes a string as argument? |
| 04:23.25 | ckknight | Parnic: I think plugin.hideWithoutStandby = true |
| 04:23.58 | Gnarfoz | yay pings! :> I thought I didn't tab-complete that, but it seems I did by reflex. ;D |
| 04:24.57 | eblume | I've assumed that the type is "input" but I can't decipher how to configure an "input" command - the get and set functions aren't explained. What are they getting/setting? |
| 04:26.21 | Parnic | eblume: get returns what value you're getting for the variable. for a checkbox, you'd usually have "get" return the true/false status of that checkbox |
| 04:26.31 | Parnic | for text, i suppose you'd just return whatever text it ought to contain |
| 04:26.46 | eblume | How do I "get" the value that was passed to the console command? |
| 04:26.52 | Parnic | for the set, it should be set to a function that accepts an argument like: set = function(value) addon:DoStuff(value) end, |
| 04:27.01 | Parnic | where "value" is what the user typed after the command |
| 04:27.21 | Parnic | you want to hook up a function to "set" to do what you're looking for |
| 04:27.28 | eblume | so essentially it calls set(get())? |
| 04:27.28 | Parnic | get is for displaying the value to the user |
| 04:27.44 | Parnic | no, set is for user input |
| 04:28.01 | eblume | Alright, so for a console command, it's safe to leave get as nil? |
| 04:28.09 | Ackis | hahah |
| 04:28.18 | Parnic | i'm not 100% sure. it ought to be, i'd imagine |
| 04:28.29 | Ackis | gf comes up to me, starts kissing me, tongue involved... I stop and say "just a second let me get on the flightpath" |
| 04:28.36 | Parnic | for your "search" option, you'd do: set = function(value) MyAddon:SearchStuff(value) end |
| 04:28.45 | Parnic | where value is whatever the user typed after your option |
| 04:29.00 | Stanzilla | Ackis: nerd. |
| 04:29.10 | eblume | Ok, I did nearly the same thing in it didn't work... I did 'set = "SearchStuff" |
| 04:29.21 | eblume | That called SearchStuff just fine, but did not pass value. |
| 04:29.22 | Parnic | ackis: and i assume you're still typing here because she then turned around and left? :P |
| 04:29.32 | Parnic | eblume: set = function(value) SearchStuff(value) end |
| 04:29.35 | Parnic | like i said :) |
| 04:29.52 | eblume | Right, so it's impossible to use a method with set? |
| 04:29.54 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: what else is new. :p |
| 04:29.59 | eblume | Seems strange a method is allowed then. |
| 04:30.02 | eblume | Thanks! |
| 04:30.08 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: my big toe is hurting |
| 04:30.21 | Parnic | eblume: no. you're calling a method. you just wrap it in that function(value) blah end; stuff |
| 04:30.33 | Parnic | you can call a method with "MyMethod" as well, but you can't pass arguments that way, as you've discovered |
| 04:30.42 | Gnarfoz | sleep tiems nao |
| 04:30.53 | Gnarfoz | 3 hours should be enough for anyone. |
| 04:30.54 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 04:31.18 | eblume | Parnic, I'm curious as to why one can't pass arguments that way? |
| 04:31.29 | eblume | How would passing the argument be any different than passing the argument to the inline function>? |
| 04:31.42 | Parnic | we have reached the end of my knowledge ;) |
| 04:31.53 | eblume | Hah. Ok, thank you very much,. |
| 04:35.57 | eblume | Parnic: I've used set = function(value) MyAddon:ConsoleSearch(value) end much as you suggested, and calling the command does indeed invoke ConsoleSearch, but through testing inside of ConsoleSearch, it appears that "value" as ConsoleSearch sees it is a table with two keys: UIType and at_value or something like that. |
| 04:36.48 | Parnic | heh. then i'm not sure what to tell you :). that method has always worked for me |
| 04:36.57 | Parnic | some of the other guys around may be able to answer your question |
| 04:37.06 | eblume | Thanks much. Anyone else? |
| 04:38.34 | eblume | Parnic, also, did you use AceConfig-3.0 for this? |
| 04:38.37 | eblume | Maybe this is a change? |
| 04:38.52 | Parnic | it could be a change. my knowledge is mostly from ace2 libs as that's what my addon still uses |
| 04:39.08 | Parnic | but i'm still firmly in nub status there ;) |
| 04:39.19 | eblume | Less nub than I. |
| 04:39.46 | eblume | I invoke the names of the elders: Tekkub, ckknight, Antiarc, nymbia, and others - come to the aid of a programmer less than yourselves! |
| 04:39.50 | eblume | :-) |
| 04:39.57 | ckknight | don't do that |
| 04:39.59 | Parnic | phew. you just set off the alarms |
| 04:40.01 | Parnic | yep |
| 04:40.04 | eblume | Hah. |
| 04:40.05 | ckknight | srsly. |
| 04:40.08 | ckknight | you'll just annoy people. |
| 04:40.15 | ckknight | I'm not going to help you because of that |
| 04:40.18 | ckknight | I hope you're happy |
| 04:40.21 | ckknight | also, I don't do Ace3 |
| 04:40.25 | eblume | On IRC? Someone annoyed people on IRC? |
| 04:40.32 | ckknight | :-P |
| 04:40.33 | eblume | Heaven forfend. |
| 04:40.37 | eblume | Anyway, apologies. |
| 04:41.20 | ckknight | yea, my addons don't use AceConfig-3.0, so I can't help anyway |
| 04:41.32 | eblume | That's fine, it was a desperate gamble. |
| 04:43.04 | Parnic | let's see....adding new libs. svn:externals for local dev: check. pkgmeta for curse: check. deps in toc: check. new script files in embeds: check. the list keeps growing :P |
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| 04:47.57 | smoke_ | is there some sort of addon for a living bomb timer |
| 04:50.19 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r302 / (6 files in 2 directories): |
| 04:50.20 | Repo | - added proper support for profiles instead of storing everything in account-wide un-customizable settings |
| 04:50.21 | Repo | - added FuBar support...why has this not been in and why haven't i noticed it?! |
| 04:51.12 | Parnic | pricegouging glyphs is hilariously fun |
| 04:52.03 | Parnic | with the same set of mats, i can make 1 glyph (learned from the trainer) that will auction for 15s or one (learned from the trainer...) that will auction for 15g. |
| 05:00.49 | doom0r | o.O |
| 05:00.57 | doom0r | i would think a hud is set once and done |
| 05:02.19 | Parnic | you would, wouldn't you? |
| 05:02.41 | doom0r | ya, that's why i would think it wouldnt' matter for fubar support |
| 05:02.41 | Parnic | i've gotten a lot of people asking me for per-char settings, though... |
| 05:02.54 | doom0r | well, ya, understandable |
| 05:03.04 | doom0r | but i mean why would you need to swtich on a char? |
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| 05:03.26 | Parnic | i really don't know. i have 5 70's and never thought "oo i want different hud options on this guy" :P |
| 05:03.27 | doom0r | it's like stealyourcarbon, i turn the ldb module handling in b2f off |
| 05:03.37 | doom0r | no need to ever have to change it |
| 05:04.58 | doom0r | o man, i really need to figure out why certain frames that use tablet aren't interactable sometimes |
| 05:05.30 | doom0r | happens all the time with bulkmail2 and i can make it happen with one of qh's frames |
| 05:05.42 | Arrowmaster | because they have to specifiy that they are clickable? |
| 05:05.50 | Arrowmaster | and qh doesnt use tablet afaik |
| 05:06.27 | doom0r | hmm, indeed it doesn't |
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| 05:07.22 | doom0r | so i have to figure out why the frame that shows you the quest series can not be interacted with |
| 05:07.36 | Arrowmaster | in QH? |
| 05:07.43 | doom0r | ya, i can't use the close button |
| 05:07.51 | Arrowmaster | quest series? |
| 05:07.53 | doom0r | same thing with selecting incoming mail in bm2 |
| 05:08.11 | doom0r | the odd thing is, it works if i open the global rules list in bm2 before doing anything |
| 05:08.18 | Arrowmaster | i thought bulkmail was for sending mail not receiving it |
| 05:08.28 | doom0r | there's an inbox one too |
| 05:08.32 | Zhinjio | so here's some weirdness... |
| 05:08.39 | doom0r | @project bulkmail-inbox |
| 05:08.39 | Repo | doom0r: No project found that matches 'bulkmail-inbox' |
| 05:08.40 | Zhinjio | using UIDropDownMenu |
| 05:09.05 | doom0r | @project bulk-mail2inbox |
| 05:09.05 | Repo | doom0r: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bulk-mail2inbox/. BulkMail2Inbox. Game: WoW. Leader: hyperactiveChipmunk. Updated: 16 days ago. Tickets: 3/3 |
| 05:09.05 | Zhinjio | when I push the button to make the dropdown open, there is no room for the checkmark, even if something is selected. |
| 05:09.09 | Zhinjio | however |
| 05:09.16 | Zhinjio | if I alt-tab away from the iwndow and then tab back |
| 05:09.30 | Zhinjio | suddenly there's a nice little column of clear space on the left side for the checkmark on all of them |
| 05:09.38 | Parnic | what is the independentProfile option meant for in FuBarPlugin? it removes the Profiles group from the options?? |
| 05:09.51 | Arrowmaster | Parnic: no |
| 05:09.54 | Arrowmaster | it adds it |
| 05:10.09 | Arrowmaster | otherwise you use the same profile that all fubar plugins use |
| 05:10.19 | Parnic | interesting |
| 05:10.20 | Parnic | ok :) |
| 05:10.33 | Arrowmaster | just dont add a damn fubar plugin |
| 05:10.37 | Parnic | lol |
| 05:10.40 | Arrowmaster | its not needed |
| 05:11.01 | Parnic | i like fubar :) |
| 05:11.06 | Arrowmaster | if you do, youll also have to set hidewithoutstandby |
| 05:11.10 | Arrowmaster | its still not fucking needed |
| 05:11.13 | Parnic | i did learn that lesson, lol |
| 05:11.23 | Arrowmaster | fubar is not ment to be a place to add config buttons for everything |
| 05:11.46 | Parnic | then the user can hide the button if he doesn't want it |
| 05:11.46 | Slayman | FrostFire Bolt and ManaPie, lvl 75 kicks major Butt! |
| 05:11.48 | Parnic | where's the harm? |
| 05:12.00 | Arrowmaster | its stupid bloat |
| 05:12.09 | Arrowmaster | and theres better options |
| 05:12.14 | Parnic | like what? |
| 05:12.16 | Arrowmaster | like the interface options window |
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| 05:12.23 | Parnic | not supported by ace2 |
| 05:12.29 | Parnic | or else i'd put it there |
| 05:12.30 | Arrowmaster | do it yourself? |
| 05:12.44 | Parnic | it's unnecessary right now |
| 05:12.45 | Parnic | for me |
| 05:12.53 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r303 IceHUD.lua: |
| 05:12.54 | Zhinjio | conversion to ace3, in my experience, is pretty darned painless, even for a codenub like me. |
| 05:12.54 | Repo | - set independentProfile true so that the profiles menu appears again |
| 05:13.00 | Arrowmaster | and how is a fubar plugin necessary if its never had one before? |
| 05:13.09 | Parnic | zhinjio: not for an addon that was developed entirely around aceoo :) |
| 05:13.26 | Parnic | it's not. it's just easy to add support for and the user can turn it off if he doesn't want it |
| 05:13.41 | Parnic | i never envisioned that adding fubar support would make someone unhappy |
| 05:13.45 | Parnic | this is new information for me |
| 05:13.46 | Zhinjio | I'm sure there are exceptions. |
| 05:14.33 | Arrowmaster | fubar support makes lots of people unhappy |
| 05:14.43 | Parnic | so i'm curious what fubar's purpose is, then |
| 05:14.45 | Arrowmaster | but i dont use ice-hud so i dont really care |
| 05:14.48 | Arrowmaster | ...... |
| 05:14.50 | Zhinjio | Arrowmaster: have you seen the behavior I was talking about a moment ago? or am I maybe doing something wrong with how I set them up? |
| 05:14.51 | Arrowmaster | its a fucking bar |
| 05:14.56 | Arrowmaster | to put information on |
| 05:15.14 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: not sure but i think you want the 2nd arg not the first |
| 05:15.20 | Parnic | backs away slowly |
| 05:15.38 | Arrowmaster | information, not a zillion buttons for configs |
| 05:15.48 | Parnic | alright, alright. gracious |
| 05:16.31 | Parnic | again, i had no idea that there was this sort of reaction to adding fubar buttons |
| 05:16.38 | Anaral | I like LDB, myself. Fubar always seemed too 'not good'. Though I admit I've never used fubar, I have used Titan before. |
| 05:16.41 | Parnic | so forgive the ignorance |
| 05:17.18 | Anaral | Parnic, the reaction is from one guy, who admits he doesn't use your addon, don't let it sway you. ;) |
| 05:17.38 | Parnic | anaral: i respect arrowmaster. i believe that others feel the same way he does |
| 05:17.53 | Parnic | i just didn't know that they did |
| 05:17.56 | Anaral | I don't. |
| 05:18.03 | Arrowmaster | LDB originally wasnt going to support launchers at all |
| 05:18.06 | Parnic | ok, that's fine :) |
| 05:18.30 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Thankye. CVars do the trick. |
| 05:18.41 | Anaral | I use LDB as 'minimap button storage' and info. |
| 05:19.36 | Anaral | But only for those addons that are weird and don't give minimap buttons, except for I think 1 or 2. |
| 05:20.29 | Parnic | the only reason i added FBP support at all is that previously my addon could only be configured via a console command. that seems counter-intuitive for this type of game |
| 05:20.39 | Parnic | i shouldn't expect everyone to memorize the console command for every addon they want to config |
| 05:20.56 | Arrowmaster | the console command opened a dewdrop menu right? |
| 05:21.02 | Parnic | waterfall |
| 05:21.06 | Parnic | yes |
| 05:21.13 | Arrowmaster | nothing wrong with that |
| 05:21.22 | Parnic | whether FuBar or the minimap or anything else is the right way to go about it or not, i don't know. i just am trying to make the addon easier to use |
| 05:21.38 | Parnic | no, there's nothing wrong with that. it has worked fine for the lifetime of the mod |
| 05:22.01 | Anaral | Waterfall or open to the interface, is fine |
| 05:22.15 | Parnic | but if other users are anything like me, they have 20, 50, 100+ addons installed. expecting them to know console commands to configure each one seems silly |
| 05:22.36 | Anaral | as long as the command isn't something hard to remember and/or think of, then it should be fine. |
| 05:22.38 | Parnic | so, thus the desire for fubar plugins, "launchers," minimap buttons, etc. |
| 05:22.49 | Arrowmaster | add a simple page on the addon options interface that just has a button that opens the waterfall menu |
| 05:23.09 | Anaral | There you go. |
| 05:23.17 | Arrowmaster | then when you nolonger use shitty ace2 you can add proper options there |
| 05:23.43 | Parnic | that's a perfectly viable option |
| 05:23.47 | Anaral | Okay, Parnic, maybe you're right... I agree with Arrowmaster. |
| 05:23.52 | Anaral | :) |
| 05:23.56 | Parnic | lol |
| 05:24.58 | Parnic | if i use ace3, then the Rock people will call me an idiot. if i use ace2, the ace3/rock people will call me an idiot. if i use rock, the ace3 people will call me an idiot |
| 05:25.10 | Parnic | so it's easier to just keep using what works and be called an idiot than try to rewrite |
| 05:25.13 | Parnic | and continue to be called an idiot |
| 05:25.16 | Zhinjio | there are no more rock people *grin* |
| 05:25.27 | Zhinjio | or at least, their numbers are quickly dwindling |
| 05:25.32 | Zhinjio | <- ex-rock people |
| 05:26.22 | Parnic | point being that you can never make everyone happy :) |
| 05:26.36 | Parnic | even when you have enough configuration options to support whatever people want, you get complaints that there are too many configuration options :P |
| 05:27.06 | Hirsute | Yes, yes you do. |
| 05:27.30 | Arrowmaster | there are no rock people |
| 05:27.31 | Arrowmaster | at all |
| 05:27.33 | Arrowmaster | ever |
| 05:27.46 | Parnic | looks at ck |
| 05:27.55 | Arrowmaster | looks at Cartographer3 |
| 05:28.06 | Arrowmaster | looks at PitBull4 |
| 05:28.43 | Parnic | didn't know cartographer 3 existed :P |
| 05:29.29 | Parnic | aww the "video" is a broken link |
| 05:29.30 | Parnic | that's sad |
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| 05:29.44 | Arrowmaster | vimeo became tards |
| 05:29.51 | Arrowmaster | and deleted all gaming videos |
| 05:30.12 | Arrowmaster | ~cart3 |
| 05:30.17 | Arrowmaster | ~cartographer3 |
| 05:30.18 | purl | well, cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/ - Provide feedback at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/tickets/. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523 |
| 05:31.24 | Arrowmaster | oh wait wasnt the one on the cart page a curse vid? |
| 05:31.36 | Arrowmaster | probably broke during the site upgrade |
| 05:32.11 | Arrowmaster | the vimeo one still works |
| 05:36.42 | Repo | 10vanas-ko-s: 03xilcoy * r269 modules/Notifier.lua: Fixed error in notifier when clicking on party member. |
| 05:38.45 | doom0r | bm2 completely by itself, still can't touch the close button |
| 05:47.38 | doom0r | beats head against wall |
| 05:49.27 | Loonacy | Ow! Couldn't you at least use your own head for that? |
| 05:49.59 | doom0r | i'm not a lunatic |
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| 05:53.45 | quiescens | that's what they all say |
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| 06:21.32 | NimbleRabit | anyone done azjul-nerub? |
| 06:21.37 | quiescens | yeah |
| 06:21.52 | NimbleRabit | how do you do the spider boss |
| 06:21.54 | NimbleRabit | I don't get it |
| 06:21.58 | quiescens | um |
| 06:22.05 | quiescens | poison curing is helpful |
| 06:22.16 | NimbleRabit | why is that |
| 06:22.19 | quiescens | otherwise try to avoid having melee dps |
| 06:22.27 | quiescens | it has a short range aoe poison |
| 06:22.31 | quiescens | which heals itself |
| 06:22.38 | quiescens | until its dispelled off the targets |
| 06:22.40 | NimbleRabit | I see |
| 06:22.45 | NimbleRabit | I'm a druid so I can do that |
| 06:22.52 | NimbleRabit | all the tiny little mobs raped me the last 2 tries |
| 06:23.09 | quiescens | hmm |
| 06:23.39 | quiescens | the spider fights the undead mobs in the area |
| 06:23.49 | quiescens | but if you pull it before they're done fighting, you'll probably end up fighting both |
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| 06:24.36 | quiescens | so try to pull it when it doesn't have too many of the other mobs on it |
| 06:25.03 | NimbleRabit | oh okay |
| 06:25.40 | quiescens | otherwise kill off most of the small mobs and then try to finish the boss I guess |
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| 06:27.39 | NimbleRabit | we fought it |
| 06:27.43 | NimbleRabit | and about 100 other mobs at once |
| 06:27.46 | NimbleRabit | and almost won lol |
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| 06:35.54 | many | theres a murloc NW of the archeologist at the western beach of the fjord, many forget that, i bet |
| 06:37.17 | Repo | 10vanas-ko-s: 03xilcoy * r270 / (2 files in 1 directory): updated changelog and toc |
| 06:38.24 | Repo | 10vanas-ko-s: 03xilcoy 04v3.19beta * r271 : Tagging as v3.19beta |
| 06:50.01 | Mikk | The spider boss in Nerub is easy |
| 06:50.14 | Mikk | Just let him come up to the big room and plug the doors |
| 06:50.22 | Mikk | And kill off the remaining trash |
| 06:50.25 | Mikk | Then you have him all to yourself |
| 06:50.59 | Mikk | Having melee dps is also not a problem as long as you back out of the green poison clouds on the ground |
| 06:51.18 | Mikk | Not having poison dispels only prolongs the fight a little |
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| 06:55.12 | Mikk | zomg was that nymbia? |
| 06:55.14 | Groktar | 3 1/2 bubbles to go |
| 06:55.17 | Groktar | must stay awake omg |
| 06:57.14 | Camci | anyone else got problem with pitbull and DK rune bar? |
| 06:57.36 | Mikk | I've heard it mentioned yes |
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| 06:58.06 | eblume | Hey all. Parnic, are you there? |
| 06:58.11 | Camci | gonna be updated? kinda anoying :p |
| 06:58.17 | eblume | I found out how to do what I was asking earlier. |
| 06:58.26 | ulic | we just had our first DK hit 80, that sick |
| 06:59.04 | eblume | Parnic: At least as of the current build of AceConfig-3.0, the set and get functions of an input type in AceConfig take a mandatory first argument, "info". I'm not sure what it was for. |
| 06:59.27 | eblume | So my set function had to be set = function(info, value) MyAddon:Search(value) end |
| 06:59.42 | eblume | Just an FYI. |
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| 07:01.31 | eblume | Anyway! My next question to you's guy's: I have a frame that contains a FontString, both defined in XML. How do I set the value of that FontString in LUA? I named the FontString "$parentName" but accessing ParentFrameName:SetText() complains about accessing nil. |
| 07:01.52 | eblume | I checked, and ParentFrame is defined. |
| 07:02.25 | eblume | So I guess my question becomes, is it possible to access layers of a frame directly in LUA? Or do I need to use some sort of GetLayers mechanism? |
| 07:03.13 | Lywellyn | Camci: Yep. I have the same problem. Arises when you get into a 'vehicle', no? |
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| 07:08.15 | Camci | Lywellyn: havent noticed if its that, could also be when you mount, yea |
| 07:08.26 | Camci | if you could vehicle as a mount |
| 07:08.27 | Camci | :p |
| 07:08.41 | Lywellyn | Well it always seemed to happen to me whenever you'd use say, the cannon, or the frost wyrm mission, etc |
| 07:08.50 | eblume | Ah, looking at my code, a new question arises that perhaps someone might now: When I'm defining a virtual frame in XML, can I use $parent in it's name? How about in it's virtual children? |
| 07:08.58 | eblume | now = know |
| 07:09.07 | Camci | i didnt use any of those, i think it happened to me when i mounted |
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| 07:13.44 | Xinhuan | eblume: yes |
| 07:14.13 | Xinhuan | $parentBlah just means it will get the name of its parent concantenated with "Blah" |
| 07:16.38 | Xinhuan | and the info argument in aceconfig3, is a table containing all sorts of useful information about the option tree you're calling the function from |
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| 07:20.12 | Repo | 10squire: 03Adirelle * r14 Core.lua: Added death knight mount. |
| 07:21.14 | eblume | Xinhuan: Thanks very much. So, unfortunately you're answer of "yes" is distressing as it takes away my best explanation for what is happening. I'm wondering why I can't seem to access this frame's fontstring in LUA |
| 07:21.27 | eblume | Do you know of anything special you must do to access a FontString instead of a Frame? |
| 07:21.33 | Xinhuan | no |
| 07:21.36 | Xinhuan | what is the frame's name? |
| 07:21.46 | eblume | The parent frame is named SocialistFormResultBoxListEntry1 |
| 07:22.03 | eblume | That's the result of some rediculous $parent<newname> stuff. I'll clean it up later. |
| 07:22.14 | Xinhuan | and what is your fontstring? |
| 07:22.18 | eblume | The fontstring is called $parentName |
| 07:22.32 | Xinhuan | then you will want to access SocialistFormResultBoxListEntry1Name |
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| 07:23.26 | eblume | if I run /script Socialist:Print(SocialistFormResultBoxListEntry1Name), it prints nil. If I run /script Socialist:Print(SocialistFormResultBoxListEntry1), it prints table <memory address> |
| 07:24.04 | Xinhuan | why don't you give it a real name |
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| 07:24.15 | Xinhuan | instead of a generic inheritted one |
| 07:24.34 | eblume | Well, the Entry1 part of that is a frame defined as virtual |
| 07:24.51 | Mikk | eblume: "SocialistFormResultBoxListEntry1Name" isn't the same as "SocialistFormResultBoxListEntry1" |
| 07:24.54 | eblume | the virtual name is "SocialistResultTemplate" |
| 07:25.21 | Mikk | oh nvm i see what you're saying |
| 07:25.22 | eblume | Mikk - yes, but I define $parentName in the virtual where I define $parent |
| 07:25.25 | eblume | *nod* |
| 07:25.32 | Xinhuan | try shortening the name |
| 07:25.46 | Xinhuan | although i dont' know what limits Lua has, it may have issues with variable names longer than 32 letters |
| 07:25.58 | Zhinjio | can I ask what the type of the parent frame is? |
| 07:26.10 | Zhinjio | button? normal frame? |
| 07:26.11 | eblume | The parent frame is a simple virtual frame |
| 07:26.13 | eblume | wait |
| 07:26.22 | Mikk | Xinhuan: That sounds unlikely. Some of the FrameXML stuff has ridiculously long names |
| 07:26.27 | eblume | ok, yes, it's a button. |
| 07:26.40 | Mikk | Especially considering that "variable names" are just table keys |
| 07:27.13 | eblume | Xinhuan: trying that now |
| 07:27.15 | Xinhuan | lua> SocialistFormResultBoxListEntry1Name = 1 print(SocialistFormResultBoxListEntry1Name) |
| 07:27.15 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1 |
| 07:27.16 | Zhinjio | the parent is virtual? |
| 07:27.19 | Xinhuan | seems fine |
| 07:27.36 | Xinhuan | btw your parent can't be virtual, you have to CreateFrame() it first |
| 07:27.41 | Xinhuan | to get a real one |
| 07:27.50 | Zhinjio | yeah, you can't associate a fontstring with a virtual thinger. |
| 07:28.03 | Xinhuan | oh he can |
| 07:28.11 | Mikk | you can, but it won't exist until it's actually instantiated =) |
| 07:28.13 | Xinhuan | but i'm saying he can't access the virtual template |
| 07:28.24 | Xinhuan | he can only access instances of frames inheritted from it |
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| 07:28.44 | eblume | Xinhuan: I see the same result when shortening it. |
| 07:28.50 | eblume | So, let me formulate a question carefully |
| 07:28.58 | eblume | because I think I am misunderstanding something about virtual |
| 07:29.02 | Zhinjio | you should also be able do ... like, 'local fS = parentFrameName:GetFontString() |
| 07:29.15 | eblume | Oh! Zhinjio! That might be it! |
| 07:29.19 | Xinhuan | no |
| 07:29.33 | eblume | No, it isn't,. |
| 07:29.35 | eblume | :-( |
| 07:29.36 | Xinhuan | you won't need to do that if its named |
| 07:29.38 | eblume | Thanks though. |
| 07:29.47 | Mikk | A "virtual" thing is a template only. It creates nothing until you actually create an actual frame from the template. |
| 07:29.49 | Xinhuan | change Name to something else? |
| 07:29.59 | Mikk | It might help if you actually pastey your code |
| 07:30.05 | eblume | Xinhuan: Yeah, I did. Changed it to SFEntry1 |
| 07:30.25 | Repo | 10minimap-target: 03Adirelle 04v1.1 * r42 : Tagging as v1.1 |
| 07:30.27 | eblume | PasteBin won't let me |
| 07:30.28 | eblume | it's too large. |
| 07:30.36 | Mikk | paste less :P |
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| 07:30.39 | Xinhuan | might want to redo your design then ;p |
| 07:30.41 | Mikk | pastey.net |
| 07:30.42 | eblume | Hah, one sec. |
| 07:30.50 | Zhinjio | when you create a frame, you're doing CreateFrame( frametype, frameName, parentFrame, templateFrame ) |
| 07:30.55 | Xinhuan | also your fontstring's parent might not be what you imagine it to be |
| 07:30.58 | doom0r | i still can't believe i haven't found something to put a timer countdown on my seal button while it's active |
| 07:31.01 | eblume | No, when I create a frame, I'm using XML. |
| 07:31.04 | Zhinjio | the last being the "virtual" thing you want it to inherit the properties of |
| 07:31.07 | Zhinjio | oh |
| 07:31.09 | Xinhuan | i.e your fontstring's parent probably isn't SocialistFormResultBoxListEntry1 |
| 07:31.15 | Xinhuan | its probably something else |
| 07:31.16 | Zhinjio | well, it works out to the same thing |
| 07:31.19 | Xinhuan | but you think its SocialistFormResultBoxListEntry1 |
| 07:31.28 | Zhinjio | yeah, pastey your xml |
| 07:31.33 | eblume | Xinhuan: That's related to the question I'm trying to formulate. Gimme a sec. |
| 07:31.47 | Zhinjio | PASTEY MAN, PASTEY! *grin* |
| 07:31.48 | Repo | 10libdebuglog-1-0: 03Adirelle 04v1.0.1 * r21 : Tagging as v1.0.1 |
| 07:31.56 | eblume | http://mibbit.com/pb/pDh5kT |
| 07:32.15 | eblume | that's the virtual definition |
| 07:32.21 | eblume | tell me if you need to see where I instantiate it |
| 07:32.57 | Xinhuan | have you looked in FrameXml.log |
| 07:33.03 | Xinhuan | to see if it parsed your xml properly |
| 07:33.15 | eblume | I didn't know that existed |
| 07:33.17 | eblume | where can I find it? |
| 07:33.24 | Xinhuan | wow\Logs\ |
| 07:33.33 | Xinhuan | also that whole 30 lines of XML can be reduced to 4 lines or so in Lua |
| 07:33.34 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 07:33.37 | Repo | 10cast-yeller: 03Adirelle 04v1.2 * r176 : Tagging as v1.2 |
| 07:34.01 | Xinhuan | which is why nobody in this channel uses XML, its overly verbose |
| 07:34.09 | eblume | Hah, I know... but I made the decision to use XML and I really don't want to go back just now. |
| 07:34.10 | Zhinjio | cries at xml. |
| 07:34.26 | Xinhuan | its to do with loading time as well |
| 07:34.27 | eblume | I want to write an addon that actually works first. |
| 07:34.36 | eblume | Ok, FrameXML.log - is that regenerated at every reloadUI? |
| 07:34.37 | Mikk | Yeah, and look at how well it's working :P |
| 07:34.37 | Xinhuan | large xml files compared to small lua code ;p |
| 07:34.40 | Xinhuan | yes it is |
| 07:34.47 | eblume | Several errors then |
| 07:34.48 | Xinhuan | check the timestamp |
| 07:34.51 | eblume | I'll fix them and get back to you |
| 07:35.00 | Xinhuan | if your fontstring definition is wrong |
| 07:35.05 | Xinhuan | wow will ignore it and not create it |
| 07:35.12 | Xinhuan | and carry on with the rest of your xml file |
| 07:35.18 | eblume | 11/16 23:27:24.928 Couldn't find inherited node: SocialistResultTemplate |
| 07:35.24 | Mikk | Now, if this had been Lua, you'd havee seen the problem right away :S |
| 07:35.39 | eblume | Ok, Ok, no more XML... but let me get this working first, please. |
| 07:36.04 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 07:36.06 | Zhinjio | DO EEEEET |
| 07:36.06 | eblume | ;-) |
| 07:36.47 | eblume | Ok, fixed all other errors, still getting 11/16 23:27:24.928 Couldn't find inherited node: SocialistResultTemplate |
| 07:36.53 | Xinhuan | to create "virtual templates" in Lua, you simply create a function that create the frame and children, and set all their properties and returns it |
| 07:37.31 | Xinhuan | remove your fontstring |
| 07:37.35 | Xinhuan | just leave the shell |
| 07:37.42 | Xinhuan | see if the error still there |
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| 07:38.14 | eblume | it remains |
| 07:39.26 | Xinhuan | did you define your template below stuff that uses it |
| 07:39.40 | eblume | In the same <Ui>, but otherwise yes. |
| 07:39.57 | Xinhuan | you have to define it before stuff uses it |
| 07:40.06 | Xinhuan | XML is read line by line |
| 07:40.10 | eblume | ... then what the heck is the point of parsing the XML? |
| 07:40.14 | eblume | You mean it doesn't pre-parse? |
| 07:40.16 | eblume | Wow. |
| 07:40.17 | Xinhuan | no |
| 07:40.20 | eblume | Ok, hah. Thanks. |
| 07:40.24 | Xinhuan | i don't know of any XML reader that preparses |
| 07:40.34 | Xinhuan | not even Lua does that, nor any programming langauge |
| 07:40.54 | Xinhuan | that's why in C and most other programming languages, you need to do forward function declarations |
| 07:40.57 | Xinhuan | at the top of your file |
| 07:41.09 | Xinhuan | (you know what a forward function declaration is right?) |
| 07:41.18 | eblume | I do. |
| 07:41.30 | eblume | I'm not sure I agree with you that Lua doesn't pre-parse though. |
| 07:41.33 | Xinhuan | same thing here, define a template before its used |
| 07:41.45 | Xinhuan | i assure you, lua does not preparse |
| 07:41.59 | eblume | Given two functions on the same scope, I can call either function from the other independent of which was defined first. |
| 07:42.13 | eblume | That seems to me to require pre-parsing. |
| 07:42.38 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 07:43.03 | eblume | Mm, I think I see the difference: what is happening is that the WoW engine is building a table based on my lua file |
| 07:43.08 | eblume | then executes it based on how ace set it up. |
| 07:43.17 | eblume | It builds sequentially, execution then is just table lookups. |
| 07:43.19 | eblume | You're right. |
| 07:43.20 | Xinhuan | thats because you do not understand how lua works with regards to globals |
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| 07:44.03 | eblume | I'm pretty sure I do, but I'm also pretty sure I see what you mean. |
| 07:44.12 | Xinhuan | when you do "function a() end" |
| 07:44.14 | Xinhuan | and create a function |
| 07:44.24 | Xinhuan | you are really doing "a = function() end" |
| 07:44.31 | Xinhuan | and "a" is placed in a global table |
| 07:44.36 | Xinhuan | its accessible with _G["a"] |
| 07:44.46 | Xinhuan | you can verify it by doing a == _G["a"] |
| 07:44.49 | Xinhuan | and it'll return true |
| 07:44.56 | eblume | Right... I do see that now. |
| 07:45.11 | Xinhuan | so when you define a function a() and defined a function b(), both are placed in the _G table |
| 07:45.26 | eblume | Be using OnEnable and OnInitiliaze stuff, Ace is hiding a lot of that from me. |
| 07:45.27 | Xinhuan | so when b tries to call a, or when a tries to call b, you are really accessing global variables, so it looks in _G[] |
| 07:45.31 | eblume | s/Be/By/ |
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| 07:45.48 | eblume | Well that's handy! |
| 07:45.50 | Xinhuan | and accessing globals is "more expensive" than accessing locals |
| 07:46.01 | Xinhuan | if you did local a = a |
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| 07:46.09 | Xinhuan | then you would have a local variable reference to the same function |
| 07:46.25 | Xinhuan | and reading from the local a variable is faster than looking up the global variable a |
| 07:46.26 | eblume | Yup. |
| 07:46.39 | eblume | One is O(n), the other O(nlogn), right? |
| 07:46.48 | eblume | Or even O(1) vs O(logn)? |
| 07:47.00 | Xinhuan | one is O(1), the other depends on how lua does hash tables |
| 07:47.11 | eblume | I remember reading logn, but who knows |
| 07:47.19 | Xinhuan | essentially, its a table lookup |
| 07:47.23 | eblume | Right. |
| 07:47.47 | eblume | Ok, lemme give this a whirl |
| 07:48.19 | Xinhuan | Antiarc |
| 07:48.30 | Xinhuan | Mind Control gives the priest a threat value equal to the mob's HP ;p |
| 07:48.49 | Xinhuan | verified finally, as opposed to a conjecture about 1.5 years ago |
| 07:48.49 | Lukian | haha, has it always been that way? :D |
| 07:48.52 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 07:49.00 | Xinhuan | always been that way, but unverfiable until now |
| 07:49.13 | Lukian | how long has it been assumed as being correct for? |
| 07:49.15 | Xinhuan | there was a post 1.5 years ago that has this conjecture on EJ forums |
| 07:49.30 | Xinhuan | because everyone arrived at different threat values |
| 07:49.33 | Xinhuan | on different mobs |
| 07:49.33 | eblume | Ok, still getting a FrameXML.log oddity: the last line is 11/16 23:48:48.237 (null) |
| 07:49.35 | Lukian | (what value did omen used to use?) |
| 07:49.38 | eblume | is that normal? |
| 07:49.42 | Xinhuan | omen? it used 0 |
| 07:50.01 | Xinhuan | i think |
| 07:50.05 | Xinhuan | i'll look |
| 07:50.05 | Lukian | really? I thought it used to use a value around 5.5k |
| 07:50.24 | Lukian | unless that was way back in KTM days |
| 07:50.36 | Xinhuan | -- Mind Control |
| 07:50.37 | Xinhuan | --605, 10911, 10912, |
| 07:50.40 | Xinhuan | -- No known testing is done to conclude Mind Control threat values |
| 07:50.40 | Xinhuan | -- Closest is http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t23307-priest_mind_control_threat_testing/ |
| 07:50.53 | Xinhuan | -- which is highly inconclusive. Wowwiki says "To this date it is not clear |
| 07:50.53 | Xinhuan | -- precisely how much threat Mind Control causes, but it is very substantial" |
| 07:50.53 | Xinhuan | -- MC threat is not a flat 5500 threat as Satrina's guide says. |
| 07:51.11 | Xinhuan | that's my comment in Omen2 |
| 07:51.24 | Xinhuan | the whole spell is just commented out, so MC gives 0 threat according to omen2 |
| 07:51.29 | Xinhuan | at least, i commented it out |
| 07:51.41 | Lukian | ah kk, must have been back in KTM days where I saw the 5.5k XD |
| 07:52.14 | Xinhuan | post #2 is the post with the conjecture |
| 07:53.16 | Xinhuan | eblume, go load your XML file in Firefox |
| 07:53.19 | Xinhuan | or IE7 |
| 07:53.32 | Xinhuan | it will parse it and if there's errors, show you where it is |
| 07:53.43 | Xinhuan | in particular, do not use -- comments in XML files for Lua |
| 07:53.58 | Xinhuan | because it can be misparsed by XML as a indicator for --> or <!-- |
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| 07:54.38 | Xinhuan | (null) really just means invalid file |
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| 07:55.07 | Repo | 10fubar_friendsfu: 03Elkano * r93 / (10 files in 1 directory): added support for Death Knight class |
| 07:55.20 | Repo | 10fubar_guildfu: 03Elkano * r108 / (10 files in 1 directory): added support for Death Knight class |
| 07:55.39 | eblume | ok thanks |
| 07:57.19 | eblume | No errors were found |
| 07:58.07 | eblume | *sigh* can you perhaps give me advice toward moving from XML to LUA? |
| 07:58.22 | Antiarc | I tested it to 5.5k |
| 07:58.25 | Antiarc | But it wasn't comprehensive |
| 07:58.55 | Xinhuan | its not 5.5k ;p |
| 07:59.04 | Xinhuan | its 5.5k only because most mobs at lvl 59-60 have 5.5k hp |
| 07:59.13 | Xinhuan | which is what was tested |
| 07:59.36 | Xinhuan | the EJ post linked there showed otherwise |
| 08:00.29 | eblume | Xinhuan: (et all) thanks for the help! I'm gonna turn in for tonight. |
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| 08:03.17 | Repo | 10socialist: 03eblume * r47 / (2 files in 1 directory): Progress towards basic functionality. |
| 08:03.18 | Repo | * Virtual template is now registering. |
| 08:03.18 | Repo | * list now shows default [name] as intended. |
| 08:03.20 | Repo | * Still can't find the fontstring to modify it. |
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| 08:05.54 | Zhinjio | so I've got a table |
| 08:05.59 | Zhinjio | part of my SV |
| 08:06.15 | Zhinjio | db.values.damage, db.values.heal |
| 08:06.18 | Zhinjio | both of which are tables |
| 08:06.34 | Zhinjio | I want to "re"-initialize them, and make sure the stuff gets GC'd correctly |
| 08:06.43 | Zhinjio | can I just do : |
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| 08:07.14 | Zhinjio | db.values = nil; db.values = {}; db.values.damage = {}; db.values.heal = {} |
| 08:07.28 | Zhinjio | or is some other foo required? |
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| 08:13.15 | Repo | Make sure the Library is Initialized at the end of the load process |
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| 08:15.18 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: ping |
| 08:15.23 | Xinhuan | pong |
| 08:15.29 | quiescens | moo |
| 08:15.31 | Zhinjio | see my question above? |
| 08:15.39 | Xinhuan | err |
| 08:16.14 | Xinhuan | you do a pairs loop on db.values.damage/db.values.heal and empty every key-value pair |
| 08:16.21 | Xinhuan | don't do = {} |
| 08:16.26 | Zhinjio | seriously? |
| 08:16.33 | Zhinjio | that sucks ass |
| 08:16.35 | Xinhuan | because your table doesn't come with a AceDB metatable attached |
| 08:16.50 | Xinhuan | you may have default values that you want to use the acedb metatable for |
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| 08:17.16 | Xinhuan | so just use the existing one |
| 08:17.22 | Xinhuan | unless you do something like this |
| 08:17.46 | Xinhuan | db.values.damage = setmetatable({}, getmetatable(db.values.damage)) |
| 08:17.55 | Xinhuan | which creates a table (the {} there) |
| 08:18.07 | Xinhuan | and set the metatable of it to the metatable of the older one you are throwing away |
| 08:18.52 | Zhinjio | looks like I've got some reading to do. I have no idea how metatables work |
| 08:19.09 | Zhinjio | I'm also not sure its worth it. |
| 08:19.15 | Zhinjio | I'm not talking about alot of memory |
| 08:19.19 | Zhinjio | but I'll look into it |
| 08:19.47 | Xinhuan | either way, the old table gets thrown away |
| 08:19.55 | Xinhuan | as long as there's no more references to them |
| 08:20.02 | Xinhuan | and eventually gets GCed |
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| 08:23.12 | doom0r | i need a better processor, i gather too much data |
| 08:28.22 | Zhinjio | bah,if all this new code works on the first go, I'll be shocked. |
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| 08:33.28 | Tigerdyr | erh.. you mean you program from the mantra "Write a shitload of code, and expect it not to work" ? |
| 08:34.28 | Tigerdyr | Yoda says "That is why you fail" |
| 08:35.17 | Elkano | ~seen Kemayo |
| 08:35.18 | purl | kemayo <n=kemayo@pool-71-104-210-99.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 16d 12h 29m 17s ago, saying: 'asmodai: I just want to note that I completely support you fixing InstanceMaps.'. |
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| 08:44.13 | Zhinjio | can anyone please take a look at http://ace.pastey.net/102042 |
| 08:44.28 | Zhinjio | and explain why HitCrit.confirmText isn't available to the static dialog? |
| 08:44.39 | Zhinjio | I've confirmed that HitCrit.confirmText has the right value |
| 08:44.51 | Zhinjio | but it doesn't seem like the static has access to its value or something? |
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| 08:45.25 | asmodai | mmm, have to leave the drain in for 2 more days :S |
| 08:46.39 | doom0r | ow |
| 08:47.20 | asmodai | 'yay' |
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| 08:49.06 | doom0r | well, a guild just got conqueror of naxxramas |
| 08:49.41 | [Ammo] | naxx is entry level raiding shrug |
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| 08:50.16 | Zhinjio | Ammo, got a second to look at a pastey? |
| 08:50.26 | [Ammo] | in a few, xp wants to reboot :) |
| 08:50.32 | Zhinjio | ok, thanks. |
| 08:50.46 | asmodai | [Ammo]: berate it |
| 08:52.24 | Tekkub | hey ammo, BetterInbox is yours right? |
| 08:53.32 | Zeksie | anyone had server not saving macro changes? |
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| 08:58.18 | Repo | 10fubar_friendsfu: 03Elkano * r95 / (10 files in 1 directory): added support for level 71-80 |
| 08:58.25 | Repo | 10fubar_guildfu: 03Elkano * r109 / (10 files in 1 directory): added support for level 71-80 |
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| 09:02.01 | Repo | 10libbabble-faction-3-0: 03TrAsHeR * r61 LibBabble-Faction-3.0.lua: frFR update |
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| 09:04.59 | doom0r | any suggestions for a proc frequency gathering addon? |
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| 09:07.20 | Zhinjio | [Ammo], Tekkub, or whomever has a moment.... http://ace.pastey.net/102042 |
| 09:07.43 | Zhinjio | the static popup ends up with an empty string instead of HitCrit.confirmText |
| 09:07.54 | Zhinjio | and its making me a sad panda |
| 09:08.33 | Tekkub | StaticPopupDialogs["HC_CONFIRM_RESET_DATA"].text = "blah" in the onclick |
| 09:09.00 | Zhinjio | oh. |
| 09:09.05 | Zhinjio | alrighty. I'll give that a shot. Thanks. |
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| 09:21.50 | Repo | 10libbabble-faction-3-0: 03TrAsHeR * r62 LibBabble-Faction-3.0.lua: frFR update |
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| 09:22.38 | Zhinjio | Tekkub: worked like a champ. Thanks much. |
| 09:24.08 | EthanCentaurai | "we're sorry, but project <insert name here> has been deleted from WowAce. Reason: Inactivity" :'( |
| 09:24.15 | asmodai | ? |
| 09:24.54 | EthanCentaurai | my stuffz were nuked because I hadn't made any tags yet |
| 09:25.30 | EthanCentaurai | files a report and asks for them back. |
| 09:26.29 | Xinhuan | what project |
| 09:27.13 | EthanCentaurai | Prat BottleCap and BigWigs CrowdControl |
| 09:27.42 | EthanCentaurai | my others are fine... for now... there's no hiding from the ban hammer >_> |
| 09:27.54 | Xinhuan | got links? |
| 09:28.42 | EthanCentaurai | http://www.wowace.com/projects/prat_bottlecap/ and http://www.wowace.com/projects/bigwigs_crowdcontrol/ |
| 09:28.57 | Xinhuan | Project has an abnormal status: |
| 09:28.58 | Xinhuan | It is marked as Deleted. |
| 09:29.01 | Xinhuan | (Automatic) Deleted since no file has been uploaded and no known activity for 4 weeks. |
| 09:29.17 | Repo | 10under-hood: 03Anadale * r28 Localization/localization-ruRU.lua: UnderHood: |
| 09:29.18 | Repo | - Russian localization fixed. |
| 09:29.25 | EthanCentaurai | even though I've been committing my socks off |
| 09:29.28 | Xinhuan | undeleted both |
| 09:29.33 | Xinhuan | have fun (and tag something) |
| 09:29.37 | EthanCentaurai | thanks Xinhuan :) |
| 09:30.17 | Xinhuan | btw EthanCentaurai |
| 09:30.21 | Xinhuan | handynotes_createnotheere |
| 09:30.30 | EthanCentaurai | aye? |
| 09:30.32 | Xinhuan | you may submit a patch to me to incorporate it into handynotes itself |
| 09:31.09 | EthanCentaurai | oh ok, shall I make a ticket? |
| 09:31.26 | Xinhuan | no, just give me a patch file or something |
| 09:32.51 | Xinhuan | i would look over the code, and then include it somehow |
| 09:33.00 | Xinhuan | i don't like '/note', '/mapnote' or '/notheere' ;p |
| 09:33.40 | EthanCentaurai | hehe :P |
| 09:33.50 | EthanCentaurai | summons Pastey |
| 09:34.01 | asmodai | mmm |
| 09:34.18 | asmodai | handynotes trainers doesn't seem to record first aid ones |
| 09:34.40 | EthanCentaurai | Xinhuan: http://ace.pastey.net/102043 :) |
| 09:35.00 | asmodai | and handy notes threw an error again |
| 09:35.13 | Xinhuan | what error |
| 09:35.52 | Repo | 10libbabble-faction-3-0: 03TrAsHeR * r63 LibBabble-Faction-3.0.lua: frFR update |
| 09:38.08 | asmodai | moment |
| 09:38.14 | asmodai | still typing with one arm |
| 09:39.00 | asmodai | 1.1.2: HandyNotes.lua:231: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'id' (a boolean value) |
| 09:39.00 | Repo | 10under-hood: 03Anadale 072 * r29 : UnderHood: |
| 09:39.01 | Repo | - Branch for UnderHood 2.x |
| 09:39.16 | Zhinjio | alright, thats awesome. |
| 09:39.32 | Zhinjio | I'm erally happy with the way the hitcrit data browser turned out |
| 09:39.41 | Xinhuan | need a full stack trace on that one asmodai |
| 09:39.46 | Xinhuan | any number of addons can call that |
| 09:39.55 | Xinhuan | including non-handynotes addons |
| 09:40.03 | Xinhuan | such as Routes (which can use handynotes data) |
| 09:40.28 | asmodai | no routes |
| 09:40.58 | asmodai | moment |
| 09:41.26 | asmodai | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/91441/ |
| 09:42.05 | Xinhuan | that would be a HandyNotes_Directions error ;p |
| 09:42.07 | Xinhuan | bug the author about it |
| 09:42.17 | Xinhuan | i'm not the author of that HN plugin hehe |
| 09:42.25 | Xinhuan | it passed in a nil value |
| 09:43.01 | Xinhuan | although i'm not quite sure what the curse profiler is doing |
| 09:43.09 | Xinhuan | in that trace |
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| 09:44.27 | Zhinjio | SunTsu: ping |
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| 09:45.22 | Repo | 10bigwigs_crowdcontrol: 03ethancentaurai 07master * 16eda05 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Update TOC to 30000 |
| 09:45.55 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: thanks. I stole some of your early UIDropDownMenu handling code from... something. BankItems I think. |
| 09:46.01 | Zhinjio | helped me understand wtf I was doing |
| 09:46.15 | Xinhuan | the bankitems one uses the template to show the text |
| 09:46.22 | Xinhuan | of the currently selected items |
| 09:46.34 | Xinhuan | the ones in my other addons don't |
| 09:46.40 | Xinhuan | such as omen |
| 09:46.46 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 09:46.56 | Zhinjio | I looked at Omen, and it didn't help me as much as BankItems did |
| 09:47.28 | Repo | 10under-hood: 03Anadale 072 * r30 / (51 files in 10 directories): UnderHood: |
| 09:47.29 | Repo | - Cleanup in preparation for 2.0 |
| 09:48.00 | doom0r | profilers trying to datamine npc info |
| 09:48.40 | Xinhuan | omen's one is just.. simple, its less than 30 lines |
| 09:48.43 | Xinhuan | for those 5 menu items |
| 09:48.56 | asmodai | Xinhuan: I was clicking on the first aid trainer or supplies npc |
| 09:49.16 | Xinhuan | yeah well, whatever it is, its not an issue with my end ;p |
| 09:49.32 | asmodai | :) |
| 09:49.42 | asmodai | I wonder if I even need it |
| 09:49.52 | asmodai | never added much to my maps |
| 09:50.14 | Xinhuan | not useful, because of the tracking |
| 09:50.15 | Zhinjio | svn question: |
| 09:50.23 | Xinhuan | "track banker" "track auctioneer", etc |
| 09:50.46 | Zhinjio | it appears my local copy is not up to date from the "current" head copy on the repo. If I 'update" from the repo, will it nuke my local changes? |
| 09:51.20 | Xinhuan | no, it will attempt to merge |
| 09:51.27 | Xinhuan | if merge succeeds, you can then commit |
| 09:51.32 | Zhinjio | k |
| 09:51.35 | Xinhuan | if merge fails, you will end up with 3 files |
| 09:51.48 | Xinhuan | .rXX .rYY and .merged or something |
| 09:51.56 | Xinhuan | with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< failed merged markers |
| 09:53.05 | asmodai | wth |
| 09:53.10 | asmodai | I am walking around Dalaran |
| 09:53.17 | asmodai | and my water shield is losing charges? o_O |
| 09:53.51 | Repo | 10prat_bottlecap: 03ethancentaurai 07master * c078f7c / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Add .pkgmeta file |
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| 09:55.10 | Repo | 10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio * r21 / (5 files in 2 directories): - misc fixes |
| 09:55.11 | Repo | - added in data browser |
| 09:55.11 | Repo | - added in ability to remove data poinst |
| 09:55.54 | Repo | 10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio 041.7-release * r22 : Tagging as 1.7-release |
| 09:56.24 | doom0r | no! not the data poinst! |
| 09:56.29 | Zhinjio | eah yeah yeah |
| 09:56.33 | Zhinjio | pbtptpbt |
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| 09:59.07 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Dally1991 * r697 / (5 files in 2 directories): DrDamage: |
| 09:59.08 | Repo | - Fixed references to DK to use DEATHKNIGHT instead of DEATH KNIGHT |
| 10:00.31 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Dally1991 041.6.0b-4 * r698 : Tagging as 1.6.0b-4 |
| 10:02.40 | Fisker- | IS there an addon that shows speed? |
| 10:04.33 | Xinhuan | so EthanCentaurai, what would be a good slash command |
| 10:04.38 | Xinhuan | to create a handynote here |
| 10:04.57 | EthanCentaurai | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:05.08 | EthanCentaurai | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:05.11 | Xinhuan | /handynotes is already to open the config though |
| 10:06.27 | doom0r | @project handynotes-vendors |
| 10:06.27 | Repo | doom0r: No project found that matches 'handynotes-vendors' |
| 10:06.47 | doom0r | is that default? or external? |
| 10:06.58 | Repo | 10clean-shot: 03TDW * r42 : CleanShot: Update svn:externals |
| 10:07.03 | SunTsu | Zhinjio: pong |
| 10:07.08 | Xinhuan | external |
| 10:07.13 | doom0r | found it |
| 10:09.01 | EthanCentaurai | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:09.14 | asmodai | jesus |
| 10:09.19 | doom0r | nonono |
| 10:09.21 | Zhinjio | SunTsu: HitCrit 1.7 released with a bunch of new stuff needing translation. |
| 10:09.26 | Zhinjio | whenever you get time |
| 10:09.31 | asmodai | EthanCentaurai: felt lucid? |
| 10:09.38 | EthanCentaurai | :) |
| 10:09.39 | doom0r | it's /inthenameofallthatisholycreateanotehereorbyfirebecleansed |
| 10:09.49 | EthanCentaurai | bah :P |
| 10:10.34 | Xinhuan | are you sure you want that slash command? ;p |
| 10:10.57 | EthanCentaurai | nah, too long to remember :P |
| 10:11.07 | Xinhuan | wow has tab auto completin of slash commands ;p |
| 10:11.42 | doom0r | hmmm, could you obfuscate the creation of a command enough to make something character unique? then make an addon that display a print statement only when that's called? |
| 10:11.58 | Xinhuan | probably yes |
| 10:12.12 | doom0r | grins |
| 10:12.14 | SunTsu | Zhinjio: Yeah, I saw that, I'll habe time in about 2-3 hours |
| 10:12.19 | SunTsu | s/habe/have/ |
| 10:13.36 | Zhinjio | oh man, no hurry at all. I'm just happy to get help with it |
| 10:13.46 | Zhinjio | I think you'll like the data browser |
| 10:13.47 | Repo | 10under-hood: 03Anadale 072 * r31 / (46 files in 8 directories): UnderHood: |
| 10:13.47 | Repo | - Initial commit of UnderHood 2.0 |
| 10:23.08 | Repo | 10torta: 03Quezacolt 04v0.2.7 Beta * r8 : Tagging as v0.2.7 Beta |
| 10:32.59 | Repo | 10fubar_uclock: 03ethancentaurai 07master * 7a45711 / (3 files in 1 directory): [new, +6 commits] (2 truncated) |
| 10:33.00 | Repo | 7a45711: Fix more typos in .pkgmeta |
| 10:33.00 | Repo | b9d0118: Fix typos in .pkgmeta |
| 10:33.04 | Repo | 2f97bcb: Remove SVN keywords |
| 10:33.08 | Repo | 3f3ff0e: Add .pkgmeta file |
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| 10:43.46 | asmodai | I wonder which addon added these comments to my maps |
| 10:44.17 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 10:44.35 | asmodai | well |
| 10:44.43 | asmodai | on Hellfire Peninsula you have 3 towers, right? |
| 10:44.46 | asmodai | with that special icon |
| 10:44.57 | asmodai | One has a mapnote: |
| 10:45.00 | asmodai | I would like to train. |
| 10:45.02 | asmodai | the other: |
| 10:45.10 | asmodai | Trick or Treat! |
| 10:46.29 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 10:46.52 | Xinhuan | sounds like note sharing via cartographer or something |
| 10:47.12 | asmodai | Is mapster/handynotes compatible? |
| 10:47.29 | Xinhuan | yes, but handynotes doesn't share/receive notes |
| 10:48.04 | Xinhuan | i found cart's note sharing to be incredibly annoying if you have ppl spamming you with notes, and shapes of dicks on your world map ;p |
| 10:48.12 | Xinhuan | made out of like 20 notes |
| 10:48.48 | Repo | 10skillet: 03lilsparky 06lilsparkys-clone * r156 / (2 files in 2 directories): Skillet: |
| 10:48.49 | Repo | -fixed some arl spam issues (only tries to load professions once) |
| 10:48.49 | Repo | -fixed tradeskills with no reagents causing a failure (runeforging) |
| 10:50.03 | asmodai | ok, cause I'm a mapster/handynote convert |
| 10:50.18 | asmodai | also, hovering over the icon doesn't say if I received it from a person |
| 10:51.32 | Arrowmaster | i found notesharing to be annoying when corpsepoint was added |
| 10:51.51 | Arrowmaster | before corpsepoint waypoints were added to the notesharing blacklist |
| 10:53.22 | asmodai | mmm, wonder where it came from |
| 10:55.05 | Repo | 10handynotes: 03Xinhuan * r194 / (7 files in 2 directories): |
| 10:55.06 | Repo | Add slash command /hnnew which creates a new note where you are located. |
| 10:55.07 | Repo | Continent-enabled notes will now show on Northrend. |
| 10:55.55 | asmodai | it's in the TomTom.lua SV 8| |
| 10:56.31 | asmodai | what on earth... |
| 10:56.42 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 10:57.19 | Xinhuan | trick or treat indeed |
| 10:59.14 | asmodai | oh well, removed it |
| 10:59.19 | asmodai | but I wonder where it came from |
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| 11:06.56 | Repo | 10torta: 03Quezacolt * r9 / (8 files in 2 directories): Fixed externals and added NYI text to search box |
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| 11:19.24 | EthanCentaurai | Xinhuan (or any admin): now that http://www.wowace.com/projects/handynotes_createnotehere/ has been merged with the main addon, please nuke this page for me :) |
| 11:19.34 | Xinhuan | sure |
| 11:19.39 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03kouik 06dkclone * r707 DrDamage.lua: Changed a calculation for deathknight mana |
| 11:19.53 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03kouik 06dkclone * r708 Caster.lua: Changed a calculation for deathknight mana |
| 11:20.56 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03kouik 06dkclone * r709 Data/DeathKnight.lua: Added all ranks of currently implemented spells. |
| 11:20.57 | Repo | Added death coil now that runic power does not generate an error anymore |
| 11:32.04 | KriLL3 | how do I make questhelper ignore flightpaths? or just use em if it's very close, I can fly now and it's pointing at flightpaths that doesn't help at all |
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| 11:39.56 | theoddone33 | pretty happy with frostfire |
| 11:40.02 | theoddone33 | gotta get used to it to maximize deeps though |
| 11:40.12 | Antiarc | Hell yeah ladies |
| 11:40.12 | theoddone33 | harder to play than frost, it seems |
| 11:40.22 | Antiarc | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37693 |
| 11:40.46 | theoddone33 | you're doing heroic strat already? |
| 11:40.47 | theoddone33 | nice |
| 11:40.53 | Antiarc | We've been doing heroics all day |
| 11:41.00 | Antiarc | We've done all but Nexus/Anub'arak |
| 11:41.20 | theoddone33 | not that challenging? |
| 11:41.26 | Antiarc | We're all sunwell-geared |
| 11:41.31 | Antiarc | They're challenging |
| 11:41.34 | Antiarc | But quite doable |
| 11:41.46 | theoddone33 | sunwell gear is still just below naxx10 it seems like |
| 11:41.58 | Antiarc | Got http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37191 too |
| 11:42.04 | theoddone33 | maybe I misremember but I thought there was a steeper curve for TBC |
| 11:42.11 | KriLL3 | do you need other gear than S4 for heroics? |
| 11:44.16 | pompy | antiarc: get outa here with ur sunwell geared char before LK, and now 80! ;) |
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| 11:46.43 | Antiarc | http://i37.tinypic.com/oidv7s.jpg |
| 11:46.45 | Antiarc | :D :D :D |
| 11:46.52 | Antiarc | I am -ecstatic- over that thing |
| 11:47.41 | theoddone33 | I was in ZA/badge gear and I was pretty sad over the lack of upgrades |
| 11:47.49 | theoddone33 | until 75-ish |
| 11:47.56 | Antiarc | There are extreme upgrades from heroics |
| 11:47.57 | KriLL3 | I've found some blues |
| 11:48.13 | KriLL3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:48.18 | theoddone33 | yeah 143 dps sounds pretty high for a 1h |
| 11:49.33 | theoddone33 | Antiarc: do your buttons page? |
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| 11:49.40 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 11:49.45 | Antiarc | Well, stance shift |
| 11:49.50 | Antiarc | I don't use pages. I use keybinds. |
| 11:50.02 | theoddone33 | I setup this weird system that's not well supported by most mods |
| 11:50.08 | theoddone33 | way back pre-2.0 |
| 11:50.33 | theoddone33 | I have six pages or so, combo point generating stuff is grouped together, openers, finishers, cooldowns, etc |
| 11:51.09 | theoddone33 | but they are 5 slots to each bound to keys, and I page between them with r and g |
| 11:51.36 | theoddone33 | so I end up with something a little like that, where I only have 5 buttons displayed |
| 11:52.15 | theoddone33 | it'd be doable with default ui but you can only page 1-7 for some stupid reason |
| 11:52.23 | theoddone33 | or 1-6, whicever |
| 11:52.45 | theoddone33 | anyway I have to sleep, grats on the mac truck mainhand |
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| 11:59.40 | theoddone33 | wai |
| 11:59.42 | theoddone33 | wait |
| 11:59.48 | theoddone33 | you found something t hat's better than DST? |
| 12:01.53 | doom0r | Antiarc: what's giving dura on the paper doll? |
| 12:01.59 | Antiarc | fizzle |
| 12:02.23 | doom0r | o nice |
| 12:02.30 | doom0r | it's something simple |
| 12:02.58 | doom0r | @project fizzle |
| 12:02.58 | Repo | doom0r: http://www.wowace.com/projects/fizzle/. Fizzle. Game: WoW. Leader: phyber. Updated: 21 days ago |
| 12:03.16 | asmodai | fo shizzle my fizzle |
| 12:04.28 | phyber | yo yo. |
| 12:05.11 | doom0r | talking bout your little piece of work there |
| 12:07.09 | doom0r | so, i don't know what's causing it, but http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38212 continues stacking with casting flash of light |
| 12:07.22 | doom0r | not sure if it will proc it too |
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| 12:08.09 | mopped | Does anyonke know of a mod that enables a 'hook' for all abilities? |
| 12:08.23 | mopped | Basicall,y I want to /startattack on all of my offensive abilities, without having to macro every single one of them |
| 12:08.26 | mopped | :P |
| 12:08.44 | Xinhuan | start macring. |
| 12:08.47 | Xinhuan | macroing |
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| 12:09.03 | mopped | :( |
| 12:09.07 | JamesJr | Do I need BC to install lich? |
| 12:09.14 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 12:09.25 | mopped | What's the mod that lets you put in item weights (psuedo-AEP) for them to be seen in the tooltip? |
| 12:09.29 | mopped | stat weights* |
| 12:09.29 | JamesJr | thanks |
| 12:09.37 | Xinhuan | quite a few such mods, but none i can remember |
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| 12:10.05 | doom0r | equivalence points |
| 12:11.44 | doom0r | i need something to show a button on buff, color a button on buff and/or show a timer on a button for a buff |
| 12:11.55 | doom0r | any of the above if anyone has suggestions (different situations) |
| 12:12.51 | doom0r | and not like just an indicator |
| 12:12.56 | doom0r | for the showing a button |
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| 12:25.10 | Repo | 10squire: 03Adirelle * r15 Core.lua: Added user-defined combat spell. |
| 12:25.11 | Repo | Fixed "indoors" spell (only affect Aspect of the Cheetah, ATM). |
| 12:25.44 | Lukian | where do I get a list of all LDB visual display addons? |
| 12:29.27 | doom0r | in openoffice calc, then you share it with us! |
| 12:30.37 | Lukian | http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/wikis/addons-using-ldb |
| 12:30.39 | Lukian | I suppose |
| 12:32.40 | VonhintenHOME` | Someone help me explain this... I'm a rogue, combat spec, using the badge fists with Malice and Close Quarters Combat maxed |
| 12:33.22 | VonhintenHOME` | I have 28% crit unbuffed like that... when I switch to maces with the same spec (and maces is maxed out skill), I drop over 10% crit |
| 12:33.35 | VonhintenHOME` | instead of just 5% that Close Quarters Combat should be |
| 12:34.52 | doom0r | weapon skill? |
| 12:35.00 | VonhintenHOME` | nope, mace is maxed |
| 12:38.37 | doom0r | paper doll unbuffed? or meter unbuffed? |
| 12:38.47 | VonhintenHOME` | paper doll |
| 12:38.51 | doom0r | armory links help too |
| 12:38.55 | many | <3 tekkub. github, rails, wow, irccat... heyho. |
| 12:39.06 | VonhintenHOME` | I'll try on a dummy for a bit |
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| 12:43.32 | doom0r | how much crit are the weapons themselves |
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| 12:46.40 | doom0r | VonhintenHOME`: ? |
| 12:51.56 | Xinhuan | so i was looking at |
| 12:51.57 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9771-MakeRocketGoNow.html |
| 12:52.06 | Xinhuan | how does tekkub get away with having no screenshot on the addon |
| 12:53.48 | Zhinjio | sleepytime. G'night. |
| 12:54.13 | VonhintenHOME` | doom0r, not enough to be relavent |
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| 12:54.50 | many | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:57.16 | doom0r | if i read that correctly, it's just making an ldb plugin that launches other ldb quicklaunchers so you don't have a million buttons for just opening crap |
| 12:58.04 | Repo | 10enchanting-sell: 03Shamino * r97 EnchantingSell-enUS.lua: EnchantingSell: |
| 12:58.05 | Repo | - updated bonus value for all trainer learned enchants for wrath |
| 12:59.37 | Xinhuan | that wasn't the point |
| 12:59.48 | Xinhuan | point was wowi enforces at least 1 screenshot for every addon |
| 13:00.35 | doom0r | news to me |
| 13:00.40 | doom0r | i've seen plenty without |
| 13:00.43 | doom0r | or with dummy ones |
| 13:01.06 | Xinhuan | youu'll see many addons with "placeholder" screenshots |
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| 13:01.10 | Xinhuan | just cos you can't upload without one |
| 13:01.23 | VonhintenHOME` | lol, what the hell is going on here... |
| 13:01.50 | VonhintenHOME` | I spec OUT of Close Quarters Combat and I'm still getting some invisible 5% crit buff when I put my mainhand fist on |
| 13:02.16 | VonhintenHOME` | But not 10%, cause I lost the talent |
| 13:02.18 | doom0r | lol |
| 13:02.21 | doom0r | dual wield |
| 13:02.32 | VonhintenHOME` | ? |
| 13:02.44 | doom0r | gotta be bugged |
| 13:03.06 | Arrowmaster | i thought one of the other talents changed to give daggers and fists more crit too? |
| 13:03.25 | VonhintenHOME` | umm |
| 13:04.31 | VonhintenHOME` | nope |
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| 13:04.42 | VonhintenHOME` | Do dwarves get a fist crit bonus? |
| 13:05.42 | doom0r | 1 handed mace expertise |
| 13:06.00 | doom0r | by 5 |
| 13:06.04 | many | Xinhuan: maybe he uploaded clear.gif? |
| 13:06.16 | Xinhuan | no, its the it really has no SS |
| 13:06.47 | many | yah, see it now |
| 13:06.49 | doom0r | i wonder if they messed up the hit mod on dual wield |
| 13:06.52 | doom0r | and it's doing crit instead |
| 13:06.53 | many | it has no pictures "tab" |
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| 13:07.42 | Bruners | if there was a clear picture of what ever, there would have been a pictures "tab" below addon information |
| 13:08.51 | Bruners | or what many said |
| 13:09.45 | doom0r | Xinhuan: maybe because its under a category for something he started? |
| 13:10.42 | doom0r | or maybe he just has exceptions? |
| 13:10.47 | doom0r | plenty of his stuff has no pic |
| 13:10.54 | doom0r | and the ones with pics are completely useless |
| 13:11.29 | doom0r | nom nom nom doesn't tell me what something should look like |
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| 13:12.46 | many | i wonder what picture libdatabroker should have |
| 13:12.56 | many | "well, you could see something, if there was something to see" |
| 13:14.46 | pentium166 | a diagram showing how it works |
| 13:16.23 | many | diagrams are boring. and not so colored like wow plugins are. and not so nifty. and boring. |
| 13:16.54 | pentium166 | you can have colourful diagrams |
| 13:17.45 | VonhintenHOME` | Look, I'm not the only person noticing the 10% crit strangeness: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=164E6F5154682CB3FF2A736102D45E64.app23_02?topicId=11296625578&sid=1 |
| 13:18.08 | pentium166 | draw your diagram on a new layer in photoshop, click preserve transparency, and cover the entire thing in a rainbow gradient! |
| 13:18.11 | pentium166 | voila |
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| 13:21.37 | pentium166 | and to solve the boring problem, you could put in a lolcat. |
| 13:23.36 | many | haha |
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| 13:46.59 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.2.0-2-gb5b8dc9 / (14 files in 3 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 13:47.00 | Repo | b5b8dc9: Added an expiremental Vehicle Bar module with an exit button and the pitch buttons |
| 13:47.00 | Repo | dbff34e: Upped version number |
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| 13:48.03 | Repo | 10squire: 03Adirelle * r16 Core.lua: Added deDE zone names. |
| 13:48.04 | Repo | Fixed movement detection on taxi. |
| 13:48.05 | Repo | Now prefix spells with "!" in combat. |
| 13:48.06 | Repo | Druid: use Cat Form indoors. |
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| 13:51.13 | KriLL3 | is there an addon that tells you which angle you're flying? |
| 13:51.25 | Repo | 10squire: 03Adirelle * r17 Core.lua: |
| 13:51.26 | Repo | Removed SV cleanup on PLAYER_LOGOUT in favor of clever assignment. |
| 13:51.29 | KriLL3 | I find myself going up/down too much |
| 13:52.09 | KriLL3 | before I used speedfu but now it tells you how quick you're going calculated, not how fast you're actually moving... both a good and bad thing |
| 13:52.28 | KriLL3 | bad in that you can't use it to figure out your angle anymore, good in that it's accurate anywhere |
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| 13:58.21 | Arrowmaster | KriLL3: i never pushed that out of alpha, get the latest alpha |
| 13:58.30 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 13:58.34 | Arrowmaster | the change |
| 13:58.41 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 13:58.45 | Arrowmaster | ..... |
| 13:58.55 | VonhintenHOME` | Anyone here have a rogue and a fist weapon? |
| 13:59.12 | Arrowmaster | the switch to GetUnitSpeed("player") never made it into a non alpha version |
| 13:59.18 | Arrowmaster | which means you are using an alpha version |
| 13:59.24 | Arrowmaster | which means you should get the latest alpha |
| 13:59.29 | opant | VonhintenHOME`: I do |
| 13:59.32 | Arrowmaster | since you are using an older alpha |
| 13:59.38 | VonhintenHOME` | opant, what race? |
| 13:59.44 | opant | Human |
| 14:01.01 | VonhintenHOME` | Can you equip the fist and then another weapon type of equivalent weapon skill, and tell me if you gain an invisible 5% crit bonus |
| 14:01.14 | VonhintenHOME` | (10% if you have close quarters combat) |
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| 14:02.18 | Repo | 10cartographer_minimap_coords: 03jebus905 * r27 / (2 files in 1 directory): Cartographer_Minimap_Coords: |
| 14:02.19 | Repo | - updated for WoW 3.03 |
| 14:04.00 | Arrowmaster | useless fucking addon |
| 14:04.12 | pompy | lol |
| 14:09.04 | Gnarfoz | what does it do? :O |
| 14:10.24 | Arrowmaster | it adds coords to the minimap and puts the config for them in an 'easy to find place! in cartographer!' |
| 14:11.25 | Arrowmaster | hmm ok im not going crasy |
| 14:11.32 | Arrowmaster | the format for itemcache.wdb has changed |
| 14:11.38 | VonhintenHOME` | opant, bueller? |
| 14:12.27 | opant | sorry... |
| 14:12.31 | opant | was afk |
| 14:12.37 | opant | I can't wow right now...at work :( |
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| 14:14.40 | VonhintenHOME` | np |
| 14:23.24 | Repo | 10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 * r31 .pkgmeta: JebusMail: |
| 14:23.25 | Repo | - fixed broken external libs |
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| 14:24.32 | Ikz | So I got this tiny addon that doesn't have a line in the Lua code to set the strata. How do I add one? |
| 14:24.43 | Ikz | I know the command, but it needs a frame to target and this doesn't seem to have a conventional frame. |
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| 14:25.00 | Gnarfoz | what are unconventional frames? :p |
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| 14:25.17 | Ikz | Unconventional is a word. |
| 14:25.17 | Gnarfoz | does anyone have any details on why or how ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter is broken/has changed? |
| 14:25.19 | Ikz | In the dictionary. |
| 14:26.03 | Ikz | MoveAnything doesn't recognize it, there's no EnableMouse anywhere so that's not it, so like I said, it doesn't seem to be tied to something I can manipulate with the SetFrameStrata("BACKGROUND") command |
| 14:26.25 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I know the word, obviously. what distinguishes those frames from conventional ones? are you having trouble finding the name of the frame? does it use XML? etc. -- maybe pastey the entire addon if it's small :) |
| 14:26.38 | Ikz | Yeah it's small, one secodn |
| 14:26.40 | Ikz | second* |
| 14:27.01 | Ikz | http://ace.pastey.net/102057 |
| 14:27.04 | Gnarfoz | be aware that MoveAnything will sooner or alter give you trouble with secure frames ^^ |
| 14:27.28 | Gnarfoz | *later |
| 14:27.44 | Ikz | I'm just trying to bring the Strata back to the background so my eepanel will cover it. |
| 14:30.59 | Ikz | Uhmm.. any idea? |
| 14:31.11 | Gnarfoz | oh sry, missed the pastey link, *headdesk* |
| 14:31.13 | Gnarfoz | looking now ^^ |
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| 14:32.33 | Repo | 10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 * r32 JebusMail.toc: JebusMail: |
| 14:32.34 | Repo | - TOC change, mod still broken |
| 14:33.54 | Gnarfoz | Ikz: just put it somewhere like below line 23 - self:SetFrameStrata("BACKGROUND") |
| 14:34.51 | Ikz | I did that exact command and it didn't work, but let me try putting it below 23 |
| 14:35.18 | Gnarfoz | did it where? |
| 14:35.27 | Ikz | Well now it works. I put it on later in the file. I guess not in the right place. |
| 14:35.33 | Repo | 10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 * r33 : JebusMail: |
| 14:35.33 | Repo | - Prop changes |
| 14:35.39 | Gnarfoz | (also, if you want the frame to have a name, just change line 1 |
| 14:36.06 | Gnarfoz | to read: local addon = CreateFrame("Frame", "SomeGlobalNameThatShouldBeUnique", UIParent) |
| 14:37.36 | Repo | 10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r95 dbgen.rb.txt: GatherMate_Data: updates for new node types |
| 14:38.01 | Ikz | Alright thank you. I'm doing something neat with my eepanels |
| 14:38.39 | Arrowmaster | kagaro! |
| 14:38.48 | kagaro | yes |
| 14:39.11 | Arrowmaster | so im working on a ruby script to scrape itemcache.wdb =D |
| 14:39.21 | kagaro | cool |
| 14:39.32 | Ikz | Basically I have my zone map and my minimap large sized on my view port and when I start getting debuffs (which are in the same area), a black box covers up the top portions of the maps |
| 14:39.44 | Arrowmaster | and i got a ton of other shit ive been working on over the weekend for datamining |
| 14:39.57 | Arrowmaster | its all really ugly though |
| 14:40.17 | kagaro | if you want me to lok at it, put it up somewhere and send me a link |
| 14:40.47 | Ikz | Gnar: http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8493/newmapsgn9.png Like so |
| 14:40.56 | Ikz | http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6226/newmaps2ec4.png |
| 14:42.14 | Arrowmaster | hmm my script is hanging at the end of the wdb file..... |
| 14:42.47 | kagaro | Arrowmaster: if you want after I look at it, I can intergrate it into my DataTools package |
| 14:43.43 | Arrowmaster | http://ace.pastey.net/102060 |
| 14:43.43 | Repo | 10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r96 dbgen.rb.txt: |
| 14:43.44 | Repo | GatherMate_Data: Added a delay betwene each web call, to slow down the script to fall within ToS |
| 14:43.58 | Arrowmaster | blatently copy pasted dbc_file.rb to start with |
| 14:44.20 | kagaro | heh |
| 14:45.08 | Arrowmaster | i made that from the source of the c++ prog that capn guy made years ago |
| 14:45.22 | evl | Any built in command to show cinematics? |
| 14:45.33 | evl | I wanted to see that dragonblight one agan |
| 14:45.33 | Arrowmaster | with like no knowledge of C and very little but growing ruby knowledge |
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| 14:51.52 | kagaro | fixing now |
| 14:51.56 | kagaro | it no longer hangs |
| 14:53.34 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r40 / (2 files in 2 directories): -- Added 5 new rogue poisons |
| 14:53.35 | Repo | -- Crippling and mind numbing reduced to just one poison |
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| 14:57.20 | Pneumatus | evl: talk to the dragon again |
| 14:57.30 | evl | what dragon |
| 14:57.46 | evl | boney icey one, red one, gold one, black one or the one with fancy horns |
| 14:57.49 | Pneumatus | the fuckoff great big dragon at the wrathgate |
| 14:57.52 | Xinhuan | kagaro, you're getting pinged a lot |
| 14:57.57 | Xinhuan | to update GM_Data |
| 14:58.00 | Xinhuan | for wrath nodes |
| 14:58.07 | kagaro | i just commited the generator changes |
| 14:58.11 | evl | fuckoff dragon check :D |
| 14:58.35 | Xinhuan | which isn't the same as updating the actual addon itself |
| 14:59.18 | Repo | 10big-wigs_aq40: 03kakidot * r327 Twins.lua: BigWigs_AQ40: |
| 14:59.19 | Repo | - update koKR(Remove need not locale) |
| 14:59.20 | Repo | 10auto-bar: 03Azethoth 04v671.2 beta release * r674 : Tagging as v671.2 beta release |
| 14:59.48 | Repo | 10my-bindings2: 03fenlis * r49 / (2 files in 1 directory): Updated for WotLK(3.0.3) |
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| 15:00.13 | kagaro | it will update shortly |
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| 15:07.34 | kagaro | btw if anyone has done a lot of fishing in wrath, could send me thier fishing saved variables for GatherMate, would be appreciated |
| 15:09.07 | asmodai | not yet |
| 15:09.13 | asmodai | hey kagaro |
| 15:09.15 | pompy | kagano: I'm gonna do that soon |
| 15:09.19 | asmodai | kagaro: thing I cannot explain |
| 15:09.21 | pompy | kagaro* |
| 15:09.25 | Repo | 10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r97 / (4 files in 1 directory): GatherMate_Data: Weekly update |
| 15:09.26 | Repo | 10gathermate_data: 03kagaro 04v1.11 * r98 : GatherMate_Data: weekly update |
| 15:09.34 | asmodai | kagaro: leatherworking, why don't the darnassus/teldrassil trainers show up? |
| 15:10.03 | kagaro | asmodai: I would guess data issues ill check when i can |
| 15:10.41 | asmodai | kagaro: yeah, I'll try and dig into it as well |
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| 15:12.02 | Repo | 10my-bindings2: 03fenlis * r50 myBindings2.lua: Fixed - scroll issue |
| 15:13.24 | Repo | 10scorchio2: 03ennuilg 04v0.9 beta * r3 : Tagging as v0.9 beta |
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| 15:27.40 | Kaelten | g'morning guys |
| 15:28.21 | asmodai | heya kagaro |
| 15:28.22 | asmodai | err |
| 15:28.23 | asmodai | Kaelten: |
| 15:28.53 | Kaelten | yo |
| 15:28.55 | asmodai | Kaelten: How's tricks? |
| 15:29.06 | Kaelten | sorry I don't do tricks anymore |
| 15:30.41 | Zeksie | meh... forgot svn password.. |
| 15:30.51 | Zeksie | dunno why it's asking me for it.. stupid tortoise. |
| 15:31.34 | asmodai | Kaelten: :( |
| 15:31.48 | asmodai | Gave up your career as magician? |
| 15:32.30 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r35 / (7 files in 7 directories): ZOMGBuffs: |
| 15:32.31 | Repo | - Removed all the wow3 conditionals. |
| 15:32.31 | Repo | - Added Band/Signet of the Kirin'Tor to ZOMGPortalz. |
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| 15:44.58 | Xinhuan | Zeksie, wow2.4 is still played in china ;p |
| 15:45.30 | Xinhuan | although they can always download an older zip hehe |
| 15:45.32 | asmodai | Korea too? |
| 15:47.17 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 15:47.20 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 16:00.47 | Repo | - Updated all functionality for WoW 3.03 |
| 16:00.48 | Repo | - Known Issue: Opening COD mail with left causes crash |
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| 16:16.18 | Gnarfoz | does anyone have any details on why or how ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter is broken/has changed? |
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| 16:18.23 | Repo | Changes made to talent inspection to treat Disc Priests as healers. (Thanks to P5hema2 for user feedback!) |
| 16:18.23 | Repo | Set threshold for healing talents to 45 (up from 35). |
| 16:18.26 | Repo | (Drycoded) |
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| 16:35.37 | many | seems you can buy wrath at blizz direct, now |
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| 16:38.14 | evl | Anyone know if there's any event I can listen to that will tell me when GetItemIcon is available? |
| 16:38.46 | Elkano | since that data is completely clientside: none |
| 16:39.21 | evl | I get nil on the first call when I log in but it works when I reload |
| 16:39.56 | Elkano | strange... maybe you call it too early? |
| 16:40.04 | evl | well I call it directly in the LUA, no event |
| 16:41.55 | Elkano | oh, just noticed, I do the same ^^ |
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| 16:42.09 | evl | Well mine returns nil P |
| 16:42.25 | Elkano | but I get data for about 40k ids at that point |
| 16:44.30 | evl | doesn't seem like it actually returns anything until player entering world |
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| 17:35.34 | asmodai | mmm |
| 17:35.45 | asmodai | funny mapster (or related addons) bug |
| 17:36.10 | asmodai | you hover over a part with instances, then move to wintergrasp, and it doesn't clear the instances |
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| 17:36.57 | Xinhuan | huh |
| 17:39.52 | asmodai | well |
| 17:40.39 | nevcairiel | mapster doesnt care about instances or shit |
| 17:40.53 | asmodai | I know, trying to figure out which addon it is |
| 17:41.04 | nevcairiel | com..something |
| 17:41.06 | nevcairiel | i forgot |
| 17:41.08 | asmodai | ah yes |
| 17:41.11 | asmodai | cromulent |
| 17:41.26 | asmodai | when you hover over, say, Dragonblight |
| 17:41.31 | asmodai | it shows the instances |
| 17:41.37 | asmodai | then you move your pointer to Winterspring |
| 17:41.42 | asmodai | the instance list is not cleared |
| 17:42.42 | Gnarfoz | wtb InstanceMaps update :\ |
| 17:42.58 | Gnarfoz | + instance maps dropdown not conflicting with the "Floor" dropdown |
| 17:42.59 | Gnarfoz | :O |
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| 18:02.25 | linear` | anyone know |
| 18:02.36 | linear` | what the last actionid blizzard uses |
| 18:02.37 | linear` | on their actionbars |
| 18:02.43 | Xinhuan | 120 |
| 18:02.46 | Xinhuan | or 72 |
| 18:02.50 | Xinhuan | or 132 |
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| 18:02.54 | Xinhuan | depending on context |
| 18:03.14 | pentium166 | what is the context for 72? |
| 18:03.19 | Xinhuan | bars 1-6 |
| 18:03.21 | Xinhuan | 12 per bar |
| 18:03.32 | Xinhuan | doesn't include special shapeshift bars |
| 18:03.47 | Xinhuan | which includes stances/forms/stealth/etc |
| 18:03.56 | nevcairiel | you can usually count 1-120, 121-132 are special |
| 18:04.42 | linear` | how many can i go up to |
| 18:05.14 | Josh_Borke | 120 |
| 18:05.15 | nevcairiel | blizzard uses bars 1 3 4 5 6 i think |
| 18:05.22 | nevcairiel | and 7-9 for stances |
| 18:05.27 | Josh_Borke | it depends on what you want to do linear |
| 18:05.27 | nevcairiel | 10 is awlays free iirc |
| 18:05.29 | Xinhuan | 7-10 for stances |
| 18:05.32 | linear` | i mean like |
| 18:05.35 | Xinhuan | bar 10 is for tree form |
| 18:05.42 | Josh_Borke | tree form can blow me |
| 18:05.43 | linear` | can i do setattribute action* 200 or will it only work up to 132 |
| 18:05.46 | Xinhuan | err sorry |
| 18:05.50 | Xinhuan | bar10 is for moonkin form |
| 18:05.53 | nevcairiel | that stance should be disabled entirely anyway |
| 18:06.01 | nevcairiel | moonkin and tree share one |
| 18:06.02 | Xinhuan | nly up to 120 |
| 18:06.18 | Xinhuan | 121-130 is controlled by blizz, you can't change those |
| 18:06.23 | Xinhuan | 121-132 i mean |
| 18:06.28 | Xinhuan | that's the possess bar |
| 18:06.43 | nevcairiel | i couldnt heal without an actionbar addon because sucky blizz bar shifted on tree form <.< |
| 18:07.04 | Xinhuan | nev, i'm pretty sure tree/moonkin doesn't share bars |
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| 18:11.06 | linear` | jeez leveling from 70-80 made my questhelper savedvariables 1 mb |
| 18:13.49 | Gnarfoz | people depending on QH to even reach 80 is so sad :P |
| 18:14.46 | Gnarfoz | I had to like tell like, 100 people, excluding my guild that we weren't using any quest addons except maybe DoubleWide to reach 80 in 3 days xD |
| 18:15.23 | Gnarfoz | they're all crying for their QH to be updated and can't even reach 72 without asking stupid questions :X |
| 18:15.30 | Gnarfoz | (reading quests is hard, I know) |
| 18:16.17 | SunTsu | Gnarfoz: I frankly don't know where the big difference lies in reading the questlog and reading QH. It's still reading... |
| 18:16.31 | Gnarfoz | beats me |
| 18:16.48 | nocts | The difference lies in coordinates for specific locations. |
| 18:16.58 | nocts | Versus generalized area. |
| 18:17.06 | opant | its all your fault |
| 18:17.20 | SunTsu | nocts: Yeah, but there's quests like "the bird flying over our heads"... |
| 18:17.40 | Xinhuan | wowhead > QH |
| 18:18.19 | nocts | Somewhat. |
| 18:18.25 | linear` | uh |
| 18:18.29 | linear` | using questhelper and tomtom is so good |
| 18:18.34 | linear` | dunno why you wouldnt use it |
| 18:19.03 | nocts | In-game coordinates are what draw people to QH. Even if wowhead has more information, being able to stay in-game and get the coordinate information automatically added is quite the shortcut for those people. |
| 18:19.04 | Xinhuan | because figuring out the quests on your own is more fun |
| 18:19.23 | Gnarfoz | linear`: good how? it's easy enough as it is :D |
| 18:19.26 | Xinhuan | plus i run dual screen, moving the mouse to the other screen to wowhead is hardly alt-tabbing ;p |
| 18:19.31 | linear` | well to me it's not fun, questing is just a means to get 80 to me |
| 18:19.38 | nocts | Xinhuan: Do you honestly think most people have dual screen? |
| 18:19.42 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 18:19.45 | Xinhuan | most of my friends do |
| 18:19.48 | linear` | and alt tabbing is so slow now in wotlk |
| 18:19.49 | opant | I dont but I want it :) |
| 18:19.52 | Xinhuan | monitors are cheap |
| 18:19.53 | nocts | And the other 11 million WoW players? |
| 18:19.54 | Gnarfoz | alt-tabbing is slow? |
| 18:20.02 | Xinhuan | alt-tabbing takes 0.01 sec |
| 18:20.04 | opant | I use laptop + desktop for wowhead/wow at the same time |
| 18:20.06 | linear` | it takes like 5 seconds to tab in |
| 18:20.06 | Xinhuan | if you run windowed mode |
| 18:20.09 | linear` | not long to tab out |
| 18:20.10 | Gnarfoz | linear`: fail? |
| 18:20.11 | Gnarfoz | >_> |
| 18:20.11 | nocts | Slower than letting the mod put them onto the quest for you, is their point. |
| 18:20.12 | Xinhuan | takes 0.01s to tab in too |
| 18:20.20 | Gnarfoz | just don't run a) another screen resolution than your desktop b) fullscreen mode |
| 18:20.23 | Xinhuan | if you're taking 5 seconds, you are using fail-fullscreen-mode |
| 18:20.26 | linear` | i do |
| 18:20.31 | linear` | i cant use fullscreen |
| 18:20.32 | linear` | it'll rape my fps |
| 18:20.35 | linear` | since i use vista |
| 18:20.37 | Gnarfoz | fullscreen gives you BETTER fps |
| 18:20.42 | nocts | Vista isn't your problem. |
| 18:20.45 | Xinhuan | not if you run dual screen |
| 18:20.54 | Xinhuan | fullscreen and windowed gives same fps |
| 18:20.54 | Gnarfoz | dual screen can't really use fullscreen. |
| 18:20.58 | Gnarfoz | no they don't Xinhuan |
| 18:21.01 | Xinhuan | yes they do |
| 18:21.03 | Xinhuan | on my system |
| 18:21.06 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 18:21.06 | Xinhuan | same identical fps |
| 18:21.07 | linear` | not on vista |
| 18:21.09 | linear` | it's a known problem |
| 18:21.10 | Xinhuan | wheter in window or not |
| 18:21.13 | Gnarfoz | vsync etc :) |
| 18:21.18 | Xinhuan | not vsync |
| 18:21.29 | Xinhuan | i can get 450 fps in window, and the same 450fps in fullscren mode |
| 18:21.29 | Gnarfoz | oh so you're using LCDs without vsync? fail! :P |
| 18:21.30 | nocts | Same here. Fullscreen and windowed gives me identical fps. |
| 18:21.36 | Xinhuan | makes no differenec |
| 18:21.37 | Gnarfoz | windowed maximized is really bad performance wise |
| 18:21.40 | linear` | are you using xp? |
| 18:21.40 | nocts | Even with vsync. |
| 18:21.53 | Xinhuan | vsnyc is a terrible idea, even for LCDs |
| 18:21.53 | nocts | Gnarfoz: With older graphics cards, suire. |
| 18:22.01 | Gnarfoz | 8800gtx = not old |
| 18:22.03 | nocts | Xinhuan: I disagree. I still hate seeing tearing. |
| 18:22.07 | Xinhuan | i don't see tearing |
| 18:22.09 | Gnarfoz | also, Xinhuan, vsync should be mandatory |
| 18:22.15 | Xinhuan | your card must be faulty |
| 18:22.17 | Xinhuan | or drivers |
| 18:22.18 | Gnarfoz | there is zero reason not to have vsync :P |
| 18:22.22 | nocts | No, it's not faulty :P |
| 18:22.27 | nocts | It's how the human eye and display works. |
| 18:22.30 | Xinhuan | the reason not to have vsync is to constantly stay above 60 fps |
| 18:22.35 | Gnarfoz | you can't see or feel 450fps on a 60Hz display :p |
| 18:22.44 | Xinhuan | if you yse vsync, it caps you at 60, but it can dip below 60 |
| 18:22.45 | nocts | Your can't even see beyond 24.5fps, xin. |
| 18:22.48 | Xinhuan | wrong |
| 18:22.54 | Xinhuan | the human eye can distinguish up to 120 fps |
| 18:22.56 | Xinhuan | go google |
| 18:23.01 | nocts | It dips below 60fps because it's a multipier. |
| 18:23.02 | Gnarfoz | oh so you have a 120Hz screen? |
| 18:23.07 | Gnarfoz | cool, I want one :D |
| 18:23.13 | Xinhuan | 24 fps is only to see mooth video |
| 18:23.16 | Gnarfoz | triple buffering helps avoid the 60 -> 30 jump, btw |
| 18:23.21 | Xinhuan | or rather perceive smooth video |
| 18:23.35 | nocts | Even then, a 30fps on a 60 vsync monitor is still 50-60 true fps. |
| 18:23.37 | Xinhuan | fact is, if you use vsync, at times of loading, it will dip below 60 and you wille xperience lag |
| 18:23.45 | Gnarfoz | err no? |
| 18:23.46 | Xinhuan | video lag that is |
| 18:23.51 | nocts | That isn't true either. do you know how synching even works O.o |
| 18:23.53 | Gnarfoz | how would it "lag" :p |
| 18:23.58 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 18:24.01 | nocts | Apparently not. |
| 18:24.02 | Xinhuan | well go google sheesh |
| 18:24.09 | Xinhuan | because it caps at 60 via a timer |
| 18:24.12 | Gnarfoz | sounds like the typical stereotypical misconceptions about vsync |
| 18:24.13 | linear` | i can definitely see a difference |
| 18:24.15 | linear` | between 30 and 60 fps |
| 18:24.18 | nocts | Gnarfoz: Exactly |
| 18:24.21 | Xinhuan | if its loading intense stuff from the disk, it can dip to 55 |
| 18:24.25 | Xinhuan | that's when you will notice |
| 18:24.29 | Gnarfoz | it can't dip to 55 at all |
| 18:24.33 | Gnarfoz | that's averaging. |
| 18:24.36 | Josh_Borke | blah blah blah |
| 18:24.37 | nocts | But it isn't a true 55 fps, is my point Xin. |
| 18:24.37 | Xinhuan | because your monitor is refreshing at 60 but its running 55 |
| 18:24.38 | Josh_Borke | who cares? |
| 18:24.41 | linear` | run fraps at 30 fps and it'll feel so sluggish |
| 18:24.52 | nocts | It's still running at 60 fps, even when "dipped" at 55. |
| 18:24.55 | Josh_Borke | seriously, none of you guys are going to change the other's opinion |
| 18:24.57 | nocts | It's a multiplier. |
| 18:25.01 | Xinhuan | btw wow caps itself to 30 fps when you alt-tab out |
| 18:25.06 | Gnarfoz | Josh_Borke: I care, but your point stands. :p |
| 18:25.10 | nocts | This is like arguing with someone from the 90's about vsync. |
| 18:25.14 | Gnarfoz | wow should stop redrawing when I tab out |
| 18:25.23 | Gnarfoz | but then, it does that in fullscreen mode ;p |
| 18:25.30 | nocts | heh |
| 18:25.35 | Xinhuan | if you ever looked at your CPU usage |
| 18:25.39 | Xinhuan | when you tabbed out |
| 18:25.43 | Xinhuan | you'll realize it doesn't |
| 18:25.43 | Gnarfoz | yes. |
| 18:25.45 | Gnarfoz | fullscreen -> 0 |
| 18:25.47 | linear` | if u minimiaze it stops drawing |
| 18:25.48 | Xinhuan | or your GPU usage |
| 18:25.49 | Josh_Borke | Gnarfoz: i disagree that it should stop redrawing. i think it should continue to redraw (consider the case of dual monitors) |
| 18:25.51 | Gnarfoz | windowed -> same as not-tabbed out |
| 18:26.22 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: fullscreen mode = 1% cpu usage left, 0% gpu usage. it simply doesn't redraw if minimized |
| 18:26.35 | Xinhuan | using fullscreen on a dual screen is retarded |
| 18:26.39 | Gnarfoz | I know. |
| 18:26.42 | linear` | u can minimize it in windowed mode but u gotta go to the task manager |
| 18:26.57 | linear` | with fullscreen that is |
| 18:26.59 | Gnarfoz | windowed mode without maximized enabled is also not really fun |
| 18:26.59 | linear` | soa nnoying |
| 18:27.04 | linear` | that tabbing doesnt minimiaze it |
| 18:27.25 | Gnarfoz | why would tabbing out with anything *but* fullscreen minimized it |
| 18:27.27 | Gnarfoz | -d |
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| 18:27.42 | nocts | Xinhuan: As for your "Dips", enable triple buffering. That 30fps suddenly becomes a behind the scenes 90fps. |
| 18:27.53 | linear` | vsync is the worst |
| 18:27.56 | linear` | it like lags |
| 18:28.00 | linear` | when u pan your camera |
| 18:28.04 | nocts | Doesn't lag for me? |
| 18:28.12 | Gnarfoz | this is almost as funny as when people posted on the UI forums, dead convinced that before 3.0, the chat frames behaved the same as after 3.0 in regards to "lock chat settings" and hovering over them. :D |
| 18:28.14 | linear` | do you notice that |
| 18:28.18 | linear` | it feels like it lags behind when u pan your camera |
| 18:28.19 | linear` | with vsync on |
| 18:28.25 | linear` | but if its not it moves instantly |
| 18:28.27 | Gnarfoz | linear`: no, because it doesn't :> |
| 18:28.29 | nocts | It sounds like you've got an old card, lin. |
| 18:28.33 | linear` | no |
| 18:28.35 | linear` | i have a 260 |
| 18:28.40 | linear` | and this happened on my 8800 |
| 18:28.45 | nocts | You have an nvidia :P 'nuff said. |
| 18:28.56 | nocts | But seriously, enable triple buffering. That "lag" will go away. |
| 18:29.04 | linear` | i have |
| 18:29.11 | Gnarfoz | there shouldn't even *be* lag |
| 18:29.14 | nocts | It's essentially capping with vsync but keeping two extra frames on hand to boost thigns back up where needed. |
| 18:29.19 | Xinhuan | it won't because its wow itself that caps the fps, not the video card/driver |
| 18:29.21 | Gnarfoz | and it certainly shouldn't have to do with vsync or triple buffering |
| 18:29.30 | Xinhuan | triple buffering does nothing - for wow |
| 18:29.31 | linear` | it does |
| 18:29.34 | linear` | w/e doesnt matter i just run vsync off |
| 18:29.36 | Xinhuan | not for wow |
| 18:29.39 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: wow itself caps fps? what about your 450fps up there? :) |
| 18:29.45 | nocts | Xinhuan: Only if you have an nvidia card. |
| 18:29.49 | Gnarfoz | ... what |
| 18:29.50 | Xinhuan | it doesn't because i have vsync off |
| 18:29.57 | Gnarfoz | triple buffering works exactly the same as with any other game |
| 18:30.03 | asmodai | eh |
| 18:30.04 | nocts | WoW doesn't control your vsync :P |
| 18:30.04 | linear` | doesnt even matter if i have vsync off since i don't have tearing |
| 18:30.17 | Xinhuan | exactly |
| 18:30.19 | Xinhuan | no tearing |
| 18:30.19 | Gnarfoz | and vsync does, too, it eliminates tearing, caps the frame rate to my actual display refresh rate |
| 18:30.23 | asmodai | all my qh text just disappeared, but the move button is still in place? o_O |
| 18:30.29 | Xinhuan | except i have no tearing, so why have it off |
| 18:30.34 | Xinhuan | and cap myself |
| 18:30.45 | Xinhuan | ati sucks if it has tearing |
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| 18:30.47 | nocts | Because tearing is a guarentee, even if you aren't noticing it. |
| 18:30.47 | Gnarfoz | because you can't see anything beyond 60Hz anyway. |
| 18:30.57 | nocts | Xinhuan: That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard you say. Seriously. |
| 18:30.59 | Xinhuan | which is incorrect, since i run at 75 hz |
| 18:31.05 | nocts | Tearing has existed since prenvidia/ati war days. |
| 18:31.09 | Gnarfoz | you run an LCD at 75hz |
| 18:31.12 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 18:31.14 | Xinhuan | yes but in WOW, i've yet to see tearing |
| 18:31.18 | Gnarfoz | analog, maybe even? |
| 18:31.24 | nocts | Then good for you :) That's awesome. |
| 18:31.34 | nocts | 99% of this planet will see tearing on frames higher than 60-75 |
| 18:31.39 | Xinhuan | so you just said i am dumb is that a personal insult |
| 18:31.45 | Xinhuan | you should take that back |
| 18:31.54 | Gnarfoz | he'll just pout otherwise. |
| 18:31.55 | Gnarfoz | anyway: |
| 18:31.58 | nocts | Stop acting like it, start citing sources, and I'll take it back. |
| 18:32.06 | Gnarfoz | I've yet to see an LCD monitor that even offers anything but 60Hz on its digital input |
| 18:32.12 | linear` | if u dont notice tearing |
| 18:32.19 | nocts | Gnarfoz: Old school analog connections for lcd can do 75. |
| 18:32.21 | linear` | it really doesnt matter |
| 18:32.22 | Gnarfoz | I know |
| 18:32.23 | nocts | DVI at 60. |
| 18:32.28 | Gnarfoz | but that shouldn't be used |
| 18:32.34 | nocts | God no. |
| 18:32.43 | Gnarfoz | because: it doesn't provide "better" anything |
| 18:33.03 | Gnarfoz | on the contrary, it helps signal degradation and makes the work harder for the A/D converters |
| 18:33.06 | Gnarfoz | :O |
| 18:33.19 | nocts | Well, I don't agree with that, since I use DVI :P |
| 18:33.30 | Gnarfoz | I was talking about analogue, now =) |
| 18:33.46 | nocts | Sorry, my lapse. |
| 18:34.00 | Gnarfoz | DVI doesn't have that trouble, but then again, I've yet to see a DVI display offer anything but its native refresh rate |
| 18:34.06 | Gnarfoz | which is 60Hz for anything I know |
| 18:34.27 | nocts | A digital (DVI) connection to an LCD screen will be 59-60, from what I've seen. |
| 18:34.30 | Gnarfoz | ((HD)TV displays excluded. they're not sane.) |
| 18:34.36 | nocts | lol |
| 18:34.51 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I have no clue what that 59 is supposed to mean, maybe it's really internally something like 59.855015152 |
| 18:35.12 | Gnarfoz | anyway :\ |
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| 18:36.08 | Gnarfoz | if your video card draws more (non-static!) pictures per second than your display can show... is it not logical that you will lose something in the process |
| 18:36.15 | nocts | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/post.html;jsessionid=881AC98227C75906A68FD0444D171FBB.app23_01?forumId=11110&topicId=4028094986&postId=39996061021&op=3&sid=1 |
| 18:36.30 | nocts | And if people are still having issues, you have always been able to adjust the fps via console. |
| 18:37.04 | nocts | This is where nvidia/ati's "application controled" comes in for vsync, naturally. |
| 18:40.11 | Gnarfoz | nocts: can't read that link :O |
| 18:40.52 | nocts | Strange |
| 18:41.02 | nocts | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=E27FD8AB0F82D04095B559C64741BEB8?topicId=4028094986&pageNo=1&sid=1 |
| 18:41.09 | Gnarfoz | that works |
| 18:41.14 | Gnarfoz | the other wanted me to log in |
| 18:41.19 | Gnarfoz | with an NA account which I don't have :p |
| 18:41.43 | nocts | I may have had a link to the "quote" instead of the post number. |
| 18:41.43 | opant | I need to find me a cheap second monitor ;x |
| 18:45.24 | nocts | http://www.instructables.com/id/Turn-Your-Old-CRT-Computer-Moniter-Into-A-Fish-Tan/ |
| 18:45.36 | nocts | In theory, with enough reverse engineering, you could build your monitor out of a fishtank |
| 18:47.17 | pentium166 | bonus points if you end up with an lcd instead of a crt |
| 18:49.19 | nocts | lol |
| 18:51.40 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1089 ARLFrame.lua: AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:51.41 | Repo | - adjusted location of scan button in default frame |
| 18:51.42 | Repo | - fixed Alliance Vanguard and Horde Expedition filters |
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| 19:07.42 | asmodai | how on earth did I manage to make questhelper stop autotracking :| |
| 19:09.26 | Repo | 10fu-bar_garbage-fu_prices: 03exor674 * r31 / (2 files in 1 directory): Merged Prices: 11989 |
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| 19:09.45 | harl | does the eula/tos/etc allow me to create more than one account (using the exact same user data of course)? |
| 19:09.56 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 19:10.18 | harl | hm |
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| 19:15.01 | Xinhuan | zzz, what is the point of the 5 min countdown |
| 19:15.05 | Xinhuan | for the wrathgate chain at UC |
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| 19:19.02 | Repo | - Fixed outstanding issues with COD and AH items |
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| 19:19.25 | Repo | - Fixed outstanding issues with COD and AH items |
| 19:25.30 | asmodai | ok |
| 19:25.38 | asmodai | death knight is now class #4 on my server |
| 19:25.46 | asmodai | surpassed rogues and mages in sheer numbers |
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| 19:33.58 | pb_ee1 | Hey |
| 19:34.11 | pb_ee1 | Anyone knows how to easily do a pulse effect on a button? |
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| 19:41.01 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r106 / (5 files in 2 directories): SimpleMD: add 5 and 15 second warning options |
| 19:41.41 | pompy | where a good place to fish to level fishing 375+ in northrend? |
| 19:42.52 | SunTsu | pompy: As always: Everywhere |
| 19:43.04 | silentium | anywhere where you can catch stuff, even in SW or org |
| 19:44.16 | pentium166 | but really, the best place is in an opposing faction's town |
| 19:45.58 | silentium | I got the Old Crafty achievement, but not Old Ironjaw yet... and I play alliance :p |
| 19:48.15 | Repo | 10prescription: 03Starinnia * r80 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 19:48.16 | Repo | Prescription: add some comments while I review the code to make maintenance easier later |
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| 19:56.16 | asmodai | odd |
| 19:56.22 | asmodai | selected automatic quest tracking, nothing |
| 19:56.26 | asmodai | deselected it again |
| 19:56.32 | asmodai | poof, quest helper tracking text back |
| 19:56.48 | asmodai | wonders what triggered that one |
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| 19:58.48 | asmodai | wow, they give achievements for everything |
| 19:58.50 | asmodai | [Grimgier] has earned the achievement [Realm First! Level 80 Orc]! |
| 20:00.56 | SunTsu | asmodai: On patchday 3.0.2 I already said that they need more achievements. Like "Did one step forward" "... back" ".. to the left" - and every possible amount of it |
| 20:02.06 | Slayman | just saw how athene tried to push his protegé to 80, the tactic is actually as intelligent as it is successful |
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| 20:02.41 | Groktar | explodes near you, covering you in his entrails |
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| 20:15.53 | Repo | 10cartographer: 03Moncai 07twodotfive * r2282 : For work on version 2.5 |
| 20:16.07 | Stanzilla | lolz |
| 20:18.41 | asmodai | SunTsu: rofl |
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| 20:22.27 | Groktar | huggles cartographer |
| 20:28.52 | asmodai | throws in a: mapster > cartographer comment |
| 20:30.46 | Fisker- | Isn't there a database site that can suggest upgrades kinda like armory? |
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| 20:32.55 | Groktar | idk |
| 20:34.08 | Fisker- | i want to kill you |
| 20:34.25 | fewyn | anyone know how to pull textures from the minimap from the game files? |
| 20:34.30 | fewyn | so i can use them for other things |
| 20:35.16 | pentium166 | Fisker-: maxdps.com maybe? |
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| 20:47.06 | Industrial | http://doggdot.us/rd/124507/http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/FHeZifkK9B8/article.pl |
| 20:47.45 | ShaneSveller | hello, has anyone run into issues with patching to 3.0.2/3.0.3 on OSX? |
| 20:47.45 | ShaneSveller | i just installed a fresh copy of wotlk and the patching process fails silently |
| 20:47.45 | ShaneSveller | the downloader closes and nothing else runs, Updater.app in the Updates folder opens and closes immediately, and Blizzard Updater.app in root complains about "localization.xml" |
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| 20:55.39 | Repo | 10cartographer: 03Moncai 07twodotfive * r2283 / (4 files in 1 directory): Work in progress |
| 20:55.59 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: prat somehow mangles http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter :( |
| 20:56.31 | Gnarfoz | got a really simple filter and instead of showing non-filtered messages, nothing happens at all |
| 21:01.29 | NivFreak | so they pulled the weapon socket enchant from blacksmithing? lame! |
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| 21:02.03 | Zhinjio | Arrowmaster: I got the data browser/pruning in to HitCrit |
| 21:02.52 | NivFreak | so lvl 76, I'm finally replacing gear |
| 21:03.00 | NivFreak | cloak, ring, gun |
| 21:03.18 | NivFreak | and I'm going to have to replace 1-2 bits with gear just to stay def capped |
| 21:03.22 | NivFreak | or gem/enchant def |
| 21:06.37 | Groktar | woot time for some heroics |
| 21:10.49 | NivFreak | I hope heroics are a solid step up in difficulty |
| 21:11.06 | NivFreak | I've been running all the normal stuff with the bosses +4, and we haven't had a single issue |
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| 21:14.59 | Groktar | NivFreak: ya |
| 21:15.05 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: don't count on it |
| 21:15.06 | Groktar | i was tanking them at 77 |
| 21:15.10 | Groktar | 8k crushing blows lol |
| 21:15.19 | Zyndrome | explodes |
| 21:15.25 | Zyndrome | hates Thunderstorm |
| 21:15.28 | Zyndrome | corpseruns |
| 21:15.50 | NivFreak | you can zone heroics at 77? |
| 21:16.18 | sylvanaar | Gnarfoz what does "mangle" mean |
| 21:16.27 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: I explained on the second line :) |
| 21:17.00 | sylvanaar | pastey |
| 21:17.02 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: if my filter returns a message instead of filtering it, with prat present, nothing gets through :\ |
| 21:17.08 | Gnarfoz | the filter? |
| 21:17.10 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 21:17.12 | Gnarfoz | sure |
| 21:17.22 | Gnarfoz | it's basically DontBugMe. :p |
| 21:17.56 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: http://ace.pastey.net/102086 |
| 21:19.20 | sylvanaar | judgement day |
| 21:19.45 | Gnarfoz | is not today ;) |
| 21:19.55 | sylvanaar | you took liberties with the api |
| 21:19.59 | Gnarfoz | the filter function works as expected |
| 21:20.05 | Gnarfoz | huh? in what way :O |
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| 21:21.37 | Gnarfoz | I return true or false + msg |
| 21:22.01 | sylvanaar | you do function filter(msg, a2) |
| 21:22.10 | Gnarfoz | right |
| 21:22.16 | sylvanaar | a filter func is function(a) |
| 21:22.20 | Gnarfoz | so? |
| 21:22.28 | sylvanaar | it has 1 arg |
| 21:22.30 | Gnarfoz | the chatframe doesn't pass a second argument |
| 21:22.31 | sylvanaar | thats it |
| 21:22.36 | Gnarfoz | does prat? |
| 21:22.38 | sylvanaar | no |
| 21:23.01 | sylvanaar | what is a3 |
| 21:23.02 | sylvanaar | a2 |
| 21:23.10 | sylvanaar | blizzard invent that? |
| 21:23.14 | sylvanaar | i dont think so |
| 21:23.20 | Gnarfoz | what are you on about |
| 21:23.36 | Gnarfoz | a2 is nothing until blizz nukes the globals and calls that func with the rest of the parameters that are now in the globals |
| 21:23.59 | sylvanaar | blizzard calls filter functions like filterFunc(arg1); |
| 21:24.04 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 21:24.23 | Gnarfoz | and when they start moving the other args from the globals to the function call, this will still work |
| 21:24.36 | Gnarfoz | the question is, why does it work now, but only if prat isn't present :) |
| 21:24.46 | Gnarfoz | because it works on a naked char ^^ |
| 21:24.50 | Gnarfoz | (addon-wise naked) |
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| 21:25.55 | sylvanaar | why should it work? it depends on "officially" removed behavior, and functionality that "hopefully" will be implemented |
| 21:26.50 | sylvanaar | prat doesn't let you use arg3 |
| 21:26.56 | sylvanaar | arg2 |
| 21:27.08 | sylvanaar | you arent supposed to be... |
| 21:27.10 | Gnarfoz | you're not making sense |
| 21:27.14 | sylvanaar | yes i am |
| 21:27.19 | Gnarfoz | the globals haven't been removed. |
| 21:27.30 | Gnarfoz | the functions are called as filter(arg1) and nothing else |
| 21:27.36 | Gnarfoz | so I have to use argN |
| 21:28.09 | sylvanaar | they may not have been removed, but offically they were |
| 21:28.16 | Gnarfoz | officially they were? |
| 21:28.23 | Gnarfoz | back to "not making sense" |
| 21:28.33 | Gnarfoz | they're still there and there's not another way to access what they contain :( |
| 21:28.37 | Torhal | Officially, global arguments are not supposed to be referenced. They're deprecated and may actually be removed at any time. |
| 21:28.46 | sylvanaar | ^^ |
| 21:28.54 | Gnarfoz | so message filters are impossible to do "officially" |
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| 21:28.59 | Gnarfoz | is that what you're saying. |
| 21:29.00 | sylvanaar | Gnarfoz your hack is unsupported |
| 21:29.06 | Gnarfoz | there is no *hack* |
| 21:29.11 | sylvanaar | its a hack |
| 21:29.12 | Gnarfoz | either it's "filters are possible" or they aren't |
| 21:29.14 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/announcements/author-rewards-program-launching-soon/ |
| 21:29.27 | Gnarfoz | so tell me, how do I access the sender of a message? |
| 21:29.33 | Gnarfoz | I don't? |
| 21:29.35 | sylvanaar | filters are possible as implemented by blizzard arg1 only |
| 21:29.49 | Gnarfoz | no filtering based on sender? |
| 21:29.51 | sylvanaar | thats YOUR problem |
| 21:30.02 | Gnarfoz | actually, it's your problem because with default UI it works? |
| 21:30.11 | Gnarfoz | if globals are deprecated, why are you breaking them :p |
| 21:30.22 | Gnarfoz | or rather, what are you doing with them? :\ |
| 21:30.23 | sylvanaar | because they are deprecated |
| 21:30.28 | Jaxon | ckknight: the length of the article pushes the "My WowAce" into the second line where the subitems usually go, if asthetics are a big priority for you. |
| 21:30.28 | Gnarfoz | great! |
| 21:30.30 | sylvanaar | you shouldnt be using them |
| 21:30.36 | ckknight | Jaxon: urg. |
| 21:30.37 | Gnarfoz | you shouldn't, either. |
| 21:30.41 | sylvanaar | im not |
| 21:30.52 | ckknight | Jaxon: what browser and zoom level? |
| 21:31.00 | Gnarfoz | if you aren't, what are you doing to them? |
| 21:31.02 | Jaxon | Chrome 100%. Let me open up firefox/IE |
| 21:31.05 | Gnarfoz | nil'ing them out? |
| 21:31.08 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:31.19 | sylvanaar | no, prat runs in a non-global environment |
| 21:31.24 | Torhal | He's probably not referencing them at all. |
| 21:31.41 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: sure thing, why is it then that prat makes a simple chat filter stop working? |
| 21:31.50 | sylvanaar | it shouldnt work |
| 21:31.55 | Torhal | Global arguments are in the same stats as "this": Mostly removed but not entirely _yet_ |
| 21:31.56 | sylvanaar | if you are using globals |
| 21:31.57 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 21:32.03 | Gnarfoz | hello |
| 21:32.07 | sylvanaar | you are using a hack |
| 21:32.16 | Gnarfoz | so what? |
| 21:32.27 | sylvanaar | dont expect it to work |
| 21:32.29 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: If you're referencing global args in the filter, and Prat is not, that's the problem. |
| 21:32.30 | Gnarfoz | it WORKS. |
| 21:32.34 | Gnarfoz | just not with prat? |
| 21:32.46 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: they're global, why would prat need to reference them :\ |
| 21:32.47 | Jaxon | ckknight: I'm getting the same thing with Chrome, IE7 and Firefox 3 |
| 21:32.52 | Torhal | It won't work with Blizzard default UI at some point. Maybe even next patch |
| 21:32.54 | sylvanaar | i dont care, im not supporting deprecated functionality |
| 21:32.54 | Gnarfoz | they should still contain what they contain |
| 21:33.02 | ckknight | try now, Jaxon, I shaved off a letter |
| 21:33.07 | Gnarfoz | no, you're breaking it |
| 21:33.15 | sylvanaar | no, you are misusing it |
| 21:33.15 | Gnarfoz | :X |
| 21:33.23 | Gnarfoz | there's no docs on it anyway |
| 21:33.24 | Torhal | Basically, sylvanaar is not using them because Blizzard themselves will stop using them at any time. |
| 21:33.35 | Gnarfoz | so, back to: |
| 21:33.42 | Gnarfoz | I can only ever filter on message |
| 21:33.47 | sylvanaar | right |
| 21:33.50 | sylvanaar | thats by design |
| 21:33.54 | Gnarfoz | sounds weird |
| 21:33.55 | sylvanaar | blizzards |
| 21:33.57 | Gnarfoz | because originally that was possible. |
| 21:33.58 | sylvanaar | talk to them |
| 21:34.01 | Gnarfoz | can't |
| 21:34.04 | ckknight | don't use globals, Gnarfoz |
| 21:34.05 | Gnarfoz | they won't listen to EU. :p |
| 21:34.05 | Jaxon | ckknight: yeah, fixed. My WowAce and Search are one word in Firefox, but the font makes them noticably different. |
| 21:34.11 | sylvanaar | no, you were always misusing it Gnarfoz |
| 21:34.17 | ckknight | Jaxon: ah, close enough |
| 21:34.23 | sylvanaar | arg1 only |
| 21:34.38 | Gnarfoz | sigh |
| 21:34.43 | Gnarfoz | blizz themselves were using it? |
| 21:34.55 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14613&highlight=message+filter |
| 21:35.03 | Torhal | It's all addressed there. |
| 21:35.13 | Torhal | Mikk |
| 21:35.16 | Gnarfoz | "Not sure what you're talking about, I use it fine in BadBoy. Make sure you use the global arg2. The only thing you can make local is arg1, doing it for everything else breaks it." ^^ |
| 21:35.21 | Torhal | Mikk's posts are relevant |
| 21:35.22 | Gnarfoz | make sure you use the global arg2 |
| 21:35.23 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:35.27 | ckknight | seriously, though, sign up: http://www.wowace.com/home/rewards-program/ - I'm running the point distribution thing over and over for stats, and having people not signed up gives way more points to the people who are signed up. |
| 21:35.28 | Gnarfoz | that's from funky :p |
| 21:35.31 | Torhal | Read what Mikk says further down |
| 21:35.48 | Gnarfoz | Mikk says: "So, yeah, access the globals." |
| 21:35.49 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:36.03 | Torhal | He ALSO says: "... and chances are that it'll work when the globals are nuked and you get everything via args." |
| 21:36.05 | Gnarfoz | and guess where I stole the "a2 = a2 or arg2" thing from |
| 21:36.49 | Torhal | So basically, he's also saying that globals work NOW but will not be supported, so why bother using them and bitching at Prat's design around non-deprecation? :) |
| 21:37.32 | sylvanaar | Prat 2.0, was written to solve exactly the problem you are encountering |
| 21:37.35 | Torhal | I'm guessing sylvanaar doesn't want to have to go in when Blizzard removes the global args completely and re-design a piece of code that no longer works. |
| 21:37.45 | Torhal | And I don't blame him. |
| 21:37.52 | Gnarfoz | sigh |
| 21:37.56 | Torhal | Because chances are, it'll touch something else that will have to be re-designed. |
| 21:38.03 | Gnarfoz | if you read the thread, mikk posts a solution that does exactly that |
| 21:38.04 | Gnarfoz | but |
| 21:38.07 | Gnarfoz | with full functionality |
| 21:38.11 | Gnarfoz | instead of crippled functionality |
| 21:38.11 | sylvanaar | mikk posts a hack |
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| 21:38.36 | Gnarfoz | he posts a workaround that enables you to filter on arg2++ NOW and later on, TOO |
| 21:38.40 | Gnarfoz | how hard is that to see |
| 21:38.46 | sylvanaar | i can see it |
| 21:38.58 | sylvanaar | but blizzard doesnt support it in thier code |
| 21:39.08 | Gnarfoz | ?! |
| 21:39.12 | Gnarfoz | what. |
| 21:39.28 | sylvanaar | you are hacking around thier code |
| 21:39.40 | Gnarfoz | obviously they're not yet calling it with filter(arg1, arg2, argN) |
| 21:39.49 | sylvanaar | correct |
| 21:39.56 | Torhal | Yet. They may do so next week. |
| 21:40.01 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 21:40.01 | sylvanaar | which they have indicated no plans to do |
| 21:40.06 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 21:40.15 | Torhal | Why keep working with deprecated stuff that you know will not work later? |
| 21:40.15 | Gnarfoz | great assumption there? |
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| 21:40.33 | sylvanaar | actually i have assumed nothing. you have |
| 21:40.45 | Gnarfoz | you have assumed they will reduce functionality they themselves use |
| 21:40.52 | Mikk | What's the issue here? Is Prat feeding unexpected things after arg1 to the filters? |
| 21:40.55 | sylvanaar | no |
| 21:41.04 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: me being stupid, I guess, and unwilling to accept it. :P |
| 21:41.06 | sylvanaar | it doesnt let you use global;s |
| 21:41.06 | Torhal | Mikk: Prat isn't using the globals since they're going away |
| 21:41.07 | Gnarfoz | or something. |
| 21:41.12 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: NO. |
| 21:41.34 | sylvanaar | Mikk prat wont let you use globals in filter functions |
| 21:41.37 | Gnarfoz | if it's not using them, why does my filter not work with prat present? |
| 21:41.43 | Gnarfoz | I still don't see how that is possible |
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| 21:42.06 | Torhal | Because Prat probably hooks the event, and does not use globals. |
| 21:42.13 | Torhal | is assuming, now. |
| 21:42.14 | Torhal | :D |
| 21:42.34 | sylvanaar | if you read my post in that same thread, it explains how to access the args without using a hack |
| 21:42.42 | Mikk | So, what, you delay delivery to the filters or somesuch, and therefore the global arg2.... are something else entirely? |
| 21:42.44 | Gnarfoz | to reference that thread: "First, NEVER HOOK ChatFrame_OnEvent!" ^^ |
| 21:43.13 | Mikk | Or do you go in and explicitly nil them out or something? |
| 21:43.13 | sylvanaar | you hook CF_MEH and do MY_ARGS = {...} |
| 21:43.18 | sylvanaar | no |
| 21:43.37 | sylvanaar | just add _G.arg2 |
| 21:44.23 | sylvanaar | prat runs the filters in a non-global environment |
| 21:44.25 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: for me, they seem to just disappear entirely :\ |
| 21:44.31 | Mikk | aha |
| 21:44.47 | Mikk | yeah so as far as the filters are concerned "arg2" appears nil |
| 21:44.53 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 21:45.00 | Gnarfoz | so you're saying I'm not really using http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter ? |
| 21:45.08 | Gnarfoz | instead I'm using some prat lookalike of it |
| 21:45.17 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: no, that's not what he's saying |
| 21:45.30 | Mikk | See, all chatframe addons need to request the list of filters and call them on their own |
| 21:45.34 | Gnarfoz | < must be brain melted from powering to 80 in 3 days. :P |
| 21:45.45 | Torhal | local ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter = ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter() |
| 21:46.01 | Mikk | So Prat, Chatter, etc etc all request the event filter list from the blizzard API |
| 21:46.04 | Mikk | And call all the functions |
| 21:46.20 | Mikk | Prat does so with the function environment set to something where arg2 does not exist |
| 21:46.40 | Mikk | Which I don't see the point of myself |
| 21:46.41 | Gnarfoz | I see |
| 21:48.00 | Gnarfoz | just to be sure |
| 21:48.03 | Torhal | On a completely unrelated note: Any idea what argument I would need to pass to SetCVar(cameraPitchA, 2.5) to get it to fire? |
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| 21:48.10 | Gnarfoz | _G always exists as a reference to the global environment? |
| 21:48.17 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: Yes |
| 21:48.27 | Mikk | No it doesn't |
| 21:48.28 | Gnarfoz | or do I have to make sure it does with some getfenv(0) call ^^ |
| 21:48.29 | Gnarfoz | ok |
| 21:48.32 | Gnarfoz | wait waht |
| 21:48.34 | Gnarfoz | which one now :p |
| 21:48.34 | Torhal | Mikk: Oh? |
| 21:48.44 | Mikk | Do _G = nil and it no longer exists |
| 21:48.45 | Mikk | Tadaa |
| 21:48.46 | sylvanaar | when you define your filter function _G is whatever it is in your environment |
| 21:48.50 | Torhal | Mikk: :P |
| 21:49.04 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: He's right, though. _G is a table |
| 21:49.26 | Gnarfoz | the real question was: do I have to make sure it's there or don't I :) |
| 21:49.28 | Mikk | _G is a reference to a table. Which happens to be the global namespace table by default. |
| 21:49.44 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: so were you saying you were in heroics at lvl 77? |
| 21:49.45 | sylvanaar | if you use an implicit global reference, it may change when run in different environments |
| 21:49.50 | Mikk | Well, it would be fairly sane to assume that _G exists and points to the global namespace |
| 21:49.55 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: huhwhat? :) |
| 21:50.02 | Mikk | But I thought I could assume that noone would hide arg2 too |
| 21:50.03 | Mikk | I was wrong |
| 21:50.10 | Gnarfoz | ;-) |
| 21:50.24 | Gnarfoz | what other references to the global environment are there? |
| 21:50.24 | sylvanaar | actually, i wasnt hiding it on purpose |
| 21:50.27 | NivFreak | er |
| 21:50.30 | Gnarfoz | besides the return of getfenv(0)? |
| 21:50.31 | NivFreak | Groktar: you |
| 21:50.43 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: that's the 2 existing ones |
| 21:51.06 | Mikk | in plain old lua you can plain tricks with the debuglib too but we dont get that in wow |
| 21:51.20 | sylvanaar | i just assumed noone would still be using the globals |
| 21:51.38 | Mikk | there's plenty that do |
| 21:51.44 | sylvanaar | since they arent evetn supposed to be there |
| 21:51.52 | Gnarfoz | they provide functionality that is likely to be converted over to plain function parameters, but they're not done with that, yet |
| 21:51.59 | Mikk | any chat message filter that looks at more than just the message needs to access the globals |
| 21:52.01 | sylvanaar | you are assuming alot |
| 21:52.17 | sylvanaar | yeah, but blizzard has not said they will support that |
| 21:52.18 | Gnarfoz | so I'm basically fine with putting a local _G = getfenv(0) call at the top of my file and accessing _G.arg2 instead of arg2? |
| 21:52.34 | Mikk | actually, they have |
| 21:52.44 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: For now, yes. |
| 21:52.51 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: yours is far from the only filter that breaks though, believe me on that |
| 21:52.54 | Torhal | It won't always work, so why do it though? |
| 21:53.01 | sylvanaar | prat's code is exactly the same as blizzards |
| 21:53.02 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: ...ARRGH |
| 21:53.09 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: you're simply not getting it are you :p |
| 21:53.11 | Mikk | No, it isn't |
| 21:53.19 | Mikk | You're presenting an entirely different execution environment |
| 21:53.21 | Torhal | Yes. You want your filter to work now. |
| 21:53.25 | Gnarfoz | it WORKS now. |
| 21:53.29 | Gnarfoz | damnit |
| 21:53.32 | Torhal | I'm saying: Fine, but don't expect it to stay working. |
| 21:53.38 | Gnarfoz | and it's already future proof to stay working |
| 21:54.02 | Mikk | Except now you're digging another hole for yourself |
| 21:54.07 | Gnarfoz | because: why the hell would they not convert the stuff that's in global argN for chat events to function call params? >_> |
| 21:54.10 | Torhal | Maybe. Blizzard already changed some argument positions for some functions in 3.0.2 |
| 21:54.11 | Mikk | Consider e.g. spam blocker addons that DELAY message delivery |
| 21:54.15 | Mikk | (They do exist) |
| 21:54.46 | Gnarfoz | I'll just fix it when the time comes, anyway because I will have made some ass-stupid typo or something. Murphy. |
| 21:54.52 | Mikk | What if they use a separate environment with copies of old arg2...argN in them? |
| 21:55.04 | Mikk | Now you'll suddenly be listening to the wrong arg2 |
| 21:55.08 | Torhal | Right. |
| 21:55.25 | Mikk | The only correct and reasonable fix is for Prat to present the globals to the filters |
| 21:55.42 | Gnarfoz | and he doesn't want to have to go around fixing stuff on the day those are gone |
| 21:55.45 | Gnarfoz | which is fine |
| 21:56.09 | Mikk | Nothing needs fixing |
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| 21:56.12 | Mikk | It'll keep working |
| 21:56.30 | Mikk | He just needs to stop hiding what's already there >.< |
| 21:56.31 | Gnarfoz | and he's right about your workaround (which I use) being only quasi future proof because we don't know for sure that the functions will be called exactly the same way the globals were used before |
| 21:56.44 | Mikk | Yeah, that's right |
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| 21:56.45 | Gnarfoz | at least that's what I understand his reasoning to be |
| 21:57.02 | Gnarfoz | but then - won't filters break either way? ^^ |
| 21:57.12 | Mikk | Yes |
| 21:57.45 | sylvanaar | i understand the issue. i need to think about it. the only correct args are from CF_MEH |
| 21:58.05 | sylvanaar | and you should be caching them yourself for now |
| 21:58.57 | sylvanaar | hook CF_MEH, save args, call into hook..your filter has the args wherever you saved them |
| 21:58.59 | Gnarfoz | but I'm not a chat addon :\ |
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| 22:01.08 | sylvanaar | i'll look into running the filters in the global environment, for accessing other globals though like functions etc. |
| 22:01.52 | Gnarfoz | tbh I don't quite understand youre suggestion with the hooking thing :O |
| 22:02.06 | Gnarfoz | I'd be calling my filter myself? |
| 22:02.14 | Gnarfoz | instead of letting the ChatFrame do it? |
| 22:03.27 | Mikk | As for hooking CF_MEH, that's absolutely the wrong thing to do |
| 22:03.55 | Gnarfoz | (that's what I thought, too - I thought this pseudo-API for filters was the way to go) |
| 22:04.06 | Mikk | 1. You're not sure that ChatFrame_OnEvent gets called before other handlers |
| 22:04.25 | Mikk | 2. You're not sure that ChatFrame_OnEvent gets called AT ALL for an event |
| 22:04.57 | Mikk | People running whisper managers like WIM tend to disable all whispers to standard chatframes |
| 22:05.22 | Mikk | So suddenly your neat little hook wouldn't be called at all, and you have the wrong args |
| 22:05.36 | Mikk | Plus it's inefficient |
| 22:06.16 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: The way I see it is to simply put "Will not work with Prat, sorry." in your description |
| 22:06.25 | Mikk | goes and does that to IgnoreMore |
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| 22:07.59 | sylvanaar | or just write _G.arg2 |
| 22:08.45 | Mikk | Now you're assuming that _G.arg2 is the right arg2 |
| 22:09.51 | sylvanaar | is there any other assumption to make? |
| 22:10.09 | Mikk | Spam blocker addons that delay delivery of messages |
| 22:10.21 | Mikk | (E.g. until they've done /who on unknown sources to see if they're level 1s) |
| 22:10.29 | sylvanaar | they set the global args then call ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler |
| 22:10.50 | sylvanaar | which is what i was saying to hook |
| 22:11.06 | Mikk | Did you not read where I explained that hooking CF_MEH is sure to break in a number of cases? |
| 22:11.15 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: I don't really want to because I'm using prat :D (I know there's chatter, but so far, prat-3.0 looks solid to me. :)) |
| 22:11.30 | Mikk | Also, what if they do exactly what you do, and present the old cached arg2..argN in a different environment? |
| 22:11.42 | sylvanaar | I dont see how filters are relevant in any of those cases |
| 22:12.11 | EthanCentaurai | ugh I wish MacVim had file line numbers :/ |
| 22:12.23 | Mikk | Uh, when does correct execution of chat filters stop being relevant? |
| 22:12.37 | sylvanaar | and everything that runs filters also calls ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler |
| 22:12.46 | Mikk | NO IT DOES NOT |
| 22:12.58 | Gnarfoz | btw, adding _G.arg2 doesn't work ^^ |
| 22:13.03 | Gnarfoz | or I'm doing it wrong. |
| 22:13.11 | Mikk | Why the hell would e.g. WIM want to call ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler? |
| 22:13.27 | sylvanaar | wim doesnt need to |
| 22:13.41 | Mikk | Or FuBar_WhisperFu |
| 22:13.58 | Mikk | Or anything else that displays chat in other places than the standard chatframes |
| 22:14.03 | Mikk | And they all want to run the chat filters |
| 22:15.38 | Loonacy | EthanCentaurai: I'm pretty sure MacVim has line numbers. |
| 22:15.43 | sylvanaar | i hear you, but im not really convinced they need access to deprecated globals |
| 22:15.59 | sylvanaar | its a weak argument at best |
| 22:16.11 | Mikk | How else do they get at sender names? |
| 22:16.25 | EthanCentaurai | Loonacy: where? please do tell as I'm trying to hunt down a strange error in Parrot |
| 22:16.27 | sylvanaar | they dont, they werent designed to |
| 22:16.39 | Mikk | jesus |
| 22:16.59 | Mikk | Yet they are |
| 22:17.02 | Mikk | And obviously Gnarfoz' filter does |
| 22:17.05 | Mikk | Mine does |
| 22:17.06 | Torhal | Ok. I'm officially convinced that SetCVar for camera stuff will not work in-game. TIme to play WoTLK. |
| 22:17.39 | NivFreak | Torhal: it works |
| 22:18.00 | sylvanaar | Mikk it works - for now |
| 22:18.08 | Torhal | NivFreak: SetCVar("cameraPitchA", 2.5) does nothing. Same with cameraYawA or cameraDistanceA |
| 22:18.09 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: when they were introcuded, globals were still not deprecated, were they? |
| 22:18.10 | Mikk | And it's going to keep working when the globals are removed |
| 22:18.21 | Mikk | Because we WILL be getting the info we need |
| 22:18.29 | sylvanaar | link to blue post |
| 22:18.32 | NivFreak | Torhal: I only change cameraDistanceMaxFactor |
| 22:18.38 | Mikk | Zoot in privmsg to me >.< |
| 22:18.50 | Torhal | NivFreak: I was trying to set camera views based on actions. |
| 22:18.55 | Torhal | Can't, apparently. |
| 22:19.00 | NivFreak | ah |
| 22:19.01 | EthanCentaurai | Loonacy: found it :P |
| 22:19.43 | Torhal | I'll have to settle for SetView(2-5) and SaveView(2-5) which is annoyingly limited. |
| 22:19.55 | Loonacy | EthanCentaurai: You're too fast for me... I was about to reply :set invnumber |
| 22:20.38 | Torhal | So now instead of writing my addon as I intended, I'mma go level in Northrend. |
| 22:21.05 | EthanCentaurai | Loonacy: lol I just went to Edit -> File Settings -> Toggle Linenumbers :P I'll add the :set invnumber in the startup file though, thanks :) |
| 22:21.07 | Loonacy | Why not level in Badlands? Badlands is lonely. :( |
| 22:21.19 | sylvanaar | i understand the need Mikk |
| 22:21.39 | sylvanaar | Gnarfoz you have to do local _G=_G in your file first |
| 22:21.51 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: I do :\ |
| 22:21.56 | Gnarfoz | local _G = getfenv(0) |
| 22:22.09 | Gnarfoz | to make sure it's actually what I want, not some impostor _G :P |
| 22:22.18 | Mikk | Iirc, 0 == the current function |
| 22:22.20 | Mikk | 1 = root |
| 22:22.53 | Mikk | hm no my bad |
| 22:23.15 | Gnarfoz | I tested _G == getfenv(0) ingame first :) |
| 22:23.17 | Mikk | If the given function is not a Lua function, or if f is 0, getfenv returns the global environment. |
| 22:23.38 | sylvanaar | where are you putting that gnarfoz |
| 22:23.44 | sylvanaar | outside your filter? |
| 22:23.47 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 22:23.52 | Mikk | And I don't see why umpteen chat filters need to adapt to Prat |
| 22:23.53 | Gnarfoz | that's probably wrong? ^^ |
| 22:23.59 | Mikk | When Prat could just do the right thing |
| 22:24.23 | Mikk | Ahwell what do I care, I switched to Chatter a long time ago. I'll just drop this now. Enjoy. |
| 22:24.55 | sylvanaar | ya, srsly |
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| 22:43.20 | asmodai | cartographer is like a ghoul |
| 22:43.56 | ckknight | it sure is! |
| 22:44.13 | Gnarfoz | so now Cart_instanceMaps is more up to date than InstanceMaps? |
| 22:44.21 | Gnarfoz | ~fail |
| 22:44.21 | purl | Sorry, Gnarfoz, you have failed. Please insert $1.00 to try again. |
| 22:44.21 | ckknight | dang, why isn't AbydosLanti on IRC? |
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| 22:57.04 | asmodai | ckknight: So you endorse of the resurrection? ;) |
| 22:57.11 | ckknight | yes |
| 22:57.19 | Repo | 10cartographer: 03AbydosLanti * r2285 Cartographer_InstanceMaps/Data.lua: Fixed Azjol-Nerub map |
| 22:57.33 | asmodai | :) |
| 22:57.36 | ckknight | I plan on working on it a bit, clean up some things |
| 22:57.43 | harl | anyone saying Misha is male? (and why would you?) |
| 22:57.44 | ckknight | probably move away from Rock |
| 22:57.52 | ckknight | we'll see |
| 22:57.56 | NivFreak | wtb carographer_data's return |
| 22:58.06 | NivFreak | rock is dead? |
| 22:58.07 | NivFreak | ;P |
| 22:58.39 | ckknight | Rock makes people scared to hack on code |
| 22:58.49 | ckknight | for some reason |
| 22:58.52 | NivFreak | so Ace3? |
| 22:58.55 | ckknight | no |
| 22:59.06 | NivFreak | dare I ask? |
| 22:59.17 | ckknight | not really |
| 22:59.24 | NivFreak | k |
| 22:59.38 | ckknight | if I were to use Ace3, it'd probably be the low level stuff |
| 22:59.43 | ckknight | definitely not the config system |
| 23:00.32 | the-golem | Hiya ckknight |
| 23:00.39 | ckknight | howdy, the-golem |
| 23:00.40 | the-golem | (et al) |
| 23:01.21 | the-golem | Wait, whats wrong with rock? |
| 23:01.44 | ckknight | nothing inherently |
| 23:02.01 | ckknight | but other authors don't want to hack on something that's Rock-based because "it's not Ace" |
| 23:02.07 | the-golem | ... |
| 23:02.10 | ckknight | or some other reasons |
| 23:02.21 | the-golem | lol |
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| 23:02.27 | ckknight | and I admit that I need help maintaining my addons |
| 23:02.35 | ckknight | so I'd rather make it easy than hard |
| 23:04.23 | alcaras | macro question: how can i judge my target of target without changing my current target? |
| 23:05.39 | Quaiche|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.59 | alcaras | Quaiche|work: that switches targets |
| 23:06.10 | Quaiche|work | It doesn't |
| 23:06.41 | Quaiche|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:06.43 | Quaiche|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:06.44 | Quaiche|work | That would change targets. Mine is different. |
| 23:06.54 | alcaras | i have that |
| 23:06.58 | alcaras | it changes tagets |
| 23:07.01 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:07.04 | Quaiche|work | Bug in 3.03 |
| 23:07.06 | alcaras | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:07.07 | Quaiche|work | ? |
| 23:07.17 | Quaiche|work | Never did it before |
| 23:07.19 | Gnarfoz | /cast [target=targettarget] stuff |
| 23:07.22 | Gnarfoz | won't change targets |
| 23:07.59 | Quaiche|work | I use it all the time acaras. |
| 23:07.59 | alcaras | Gnarfoz: it does, at least with judgement |
| 23:08.11 | Quaiche|work | Try it with something else and see if it is a 3.03 bug |
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| 23:08.28 | alcaras | judgement starts a melee |
| 23:09.12 | ulic | there should be a previous target slash command try wowwiki.com/macros |
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| 23:09.31 | Quaiche|work | If judgement starts the melee, then it has nothing to do with the macro |
| 23:09.34 | alcaras | -- /targetlasttarget does |
| 23:09.40 | alcaras | but i don't watn to switch, then switch back |
| 23:09.47 | Quaiche|work | Too bad methinks |
| 23:11.15 | Lywellyn | Here's a seemingly simple question: how do you define a variable to be uses as an array? |
| 23:11.18 | Lywellyn | used* |
| 23:11.22 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r145 services/chatsections.lua: pass arg1-arg12 to message event filters. |
| 23:11.35 | Quaiche|work | Lywellyn: local foo = {} |
| 23:11.49 | Lywellyn | cool. thanks. |
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| 23:14.43 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r192 TradeskillInfoUI (2 files in 1 directory): - Fix recent UI errors |
| 23:14.50 | Lywellyn | You can have an array within an array I hope? |
| 23:18.44 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r193 TradeskillInfoUI/TradeskillInfoConfig.lua: - Remove Debug output |
| 23:19.36 | Repo | 10arc-hud2: 03fieroivan * r111 Rings (2 files in 1 directory): Runic power should now work |
| 23:19.36 | Repo | Fix bar color lookup problem |
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| 23:22.25 | ckknight | Lywellyn: {{}} |
| 23:22.42 | ckknight | lua> x = {{{'bang'}}}; return x[1][1][1] |
| 23:22.42 | lua_bot | ckknight: bang |
| 23:22.51 | Repo | 10arc-hud2: 03fieroivan 043.0.2beta5 * r112 : Tagging as 3.0.2beta5 |
| 23:22.52 | Lywellyn | nice. |
| 23:23.02 | ckknight | meh, I wish there were proper 2d matrices |
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| 23:29.13 | the-golem | If nQuestLog's most recent release was on the 14th, why does the toc still read 20400? |
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| 23:30.45 | the-golem | wb Cairenn: |
| 23:30.56 | Cairenn | danke |
| 23:32.49 | Arrowmaster | the-golem: because it wasnt a release? |
| 23:34.25 | the-golem | isn't r### the release number? |
| 23:34.57 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:34.58 | Arrowmaster | revision |
| 23:35.39 | Arrowmaster | and the file is marked as beta |
| 23:36.15 | Groktar | this boss just hit me for 18k... |
| 23:36.47 | Arrowmaster | the author is MIA, somebody else just commited a fix for the error frame issue and i marked the file as beta so people could get it without having to use all the shitty 'fixes' people have been posting up |
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| 23:45.29 | the-golem | Arrowmaster: ah ok, thanks |
| 23:45.47 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03kouik 06dkclone * r710 Data/DeathKnight.lua: Added many spells and talents. |
| 23:45.48 | Repo | Corrected some coeffs |
| 23:45.49 | Repo | Cleaned up things. |
| 23:45.52 | Repo | Cluttered a lot disease detection. Next releases will correct this. |
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| 23:54.05 | Jaxon | I really like QuestGuru's tracker, nice and slim, easy to use, not ugly, etc. |
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| 23:55.21 | Repo | 10itemprice-1-1: 03Arrowmaster * r53 ItemPrice-1.1.lua: |
| 23:55.22 | Repo | Add about 55 new items from my new working itemcache.wdb dataminer |
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| 23:57.52 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: do you plan on daring to tag ItemPriceTooltip anytime soon, then? ;) |
| 23:57.59 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:58.04 | Arrowmaster | i dont even use it |
| 23:58.33 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.35 | Gnarfoz | hm. :) |
