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00:11.15Sarozbest quest tracker atm?
00:11.36TorhalQuestGuru isn't bad.
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00:12.51AnaralI love QuestGuru
00:16.28Camcithe arena gems isnt unique anymore?
00:17.31Xinhuannot for a long while
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00:25.46SarozQuestGuru is won
00:25.50Sarozwin
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00:27.38Repo10dgks: 03leech * r90 / (3 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
00:27.38Repodgks:Added custom emote messages.
00:27.39RepoAdded custom scrolling combat text message.
00:27.41RepoMore UI cleanup.
00:27.45RepoAdded maxkillingstreak.
00:31.09Repo10dgks: 03leech 041.90 * r91 : Tagging as 1.90
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00:56.29Repo10mounted: 03yssaril 07master * v1.3.6-1-g14ab338 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] small fix to the macro parser it will no longer error if you feed it a nil macro
00:56.35Repo10mounted: 03yssaril 04v1.3.7 * 04a4b3e /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.3.7
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01:05.06Repo10aieeeeee: 03Antiarc 07master * 04f8af9 Aieeeeee.lua: [+1 commit] Make slowfalls stop falling timer
01:07.47Repo10aieeeeee: 03Antiarc 07master * ffac17c Aieeeeee.lua: [+1 commit] Remove debug message :V
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01:16.06ZhinjioAntiarc: when I logged in the first time, it told me I was falling and switched my outfit like 4 times.
01:16.11Zhinjioit seems to have stopped doing that.
01:16.16Antiarcyeah, I fixed that
01:16.31quiescenssplat
01:16.31Xinhuan~lart Antiarc
01:16.31purlpours gasoline all over Antiarc, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze
01:16.32Repo10aieeeeee: 03Antiarc 07master * 090fa1e Aieeeeee.lua: [+1 commit] Don't panic multiple times in a long fall
01:16.38Xinhuanbeta test your addon before release !
01:16.56AntiarcI've marked them beta, not release :V
01:17.10quiescensI'm sure logging in is a highly improbable event
01:17.12Zhinjioyeah, my CC gets betas
01:17.15Xinhuanomen3's probably got less commits than aieeeeeeeee now ;p
01:17.31AntiarcI use source control liberally :P
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01:17.49Xinhuani implement 1 complete feature at a time ;p
01:17.55Xinhuanso every commit is 100% usable
01:18.04AntiarcOh, mine's usable
01:18.08AntiarcIt just has some quirks :P
01:18.17Xinhuani still <3 you ;p
01:18.26Xinhuanso
01:18.28quiescenscooldown on circle of healing and wild growth could be annoying
01:18.34Xinhuani am contemplating using titan panel ;p
01:18.53Xinhuanbecause fubar is the only addon i have that runs on rock now
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01:19.03AntiarcButtonBin?
01:19.11Xinhuanand FuBar2Broker puts Fubar plugins on titan panel LOL
01:19.24quiescenso.o
01:19.36asmodaiis there any good craft cooldown timer addon aside from fubar crafttimersfu?
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01:19.51Zhinjioasmodai: I wrote Broker_TradeCooldowns
01:20.21asmodaiah
01:20.28asmodailooks like what I need/want
01:21.05asmodaiI must admit my fubar list is getting shorter and shorter XD
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01:23.27AntiarcSo, question
01:23.40AntiarcShould I write a mod that helps failboaters cheat at "Going Down"?
01:23.50AntiarcIt could also be fun for making bets with people
01:24.04Xinhuanwell, it'll be an addon like Ogrilazy
01:24.04asmodaifailboaters?
01:24.23AntiarcPeople who can't walk off of the Scryer tier
01:24.31AntiarcAlso, I want an achievement for falling 69.8 yards
01:24.36AntiarcBecause I can do that one.
01:24.44asmodaiheh
01:25.26sacarascAntiarc cheats
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01:27.11AntiarcOh, I just had an evil idea
01:27.33AntiarcWrite a mod that records closest-to-death fall
01:27.40AntiarcHave it broadcast high scores to guild
01:27.52AntiarcGoad people into installing mod to beat my high score
01:27.58asmodailol
01:28.05asmodaiI already envision Shattrath
01:28.07Xinhuani'll win by iceblocking
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01:28.22asmodaireminds me of something my ex-colleague did
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01:28.31AntiarcI'll detect health lost as a percentage of health remaining before the loss
01:28.45asmodaiapparently there's a way to a place that you can cut short by jumping down into a river and swimming a bit
01:29.02asmodaihe and his guild were at the bottom and the shaman decided to have some fun
01:29.16asmodaiwatched people jump, cast water walking on the in mid flight
01:29.25asmodais/on the/on them/
01:29.50sacarasci almost got gkicked for doing that at Lurker
01:29.58asmodaihaha
01:30.07asmodainot sure what spot it was
01:30.14AntiarcSlave pens
01:30.20asmodaimight have been
01:30.31asmodaiI found it funny, and they only did a few people.
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01:32.36asmodaimmm
01:32.38asmodaithat sucks
01:32.45asmodaiso MobInfo2 on wowui is updated
01:32.53asmodaiand on Curse we have 2 projects
01:32.57asmodai1 which is an older version
01:33.11asmodaiand 2 which is some user who took the decency to provide the updated version on curse
01:33.45asmodaihttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/mi2302.aspx and http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=mod&m=1143
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01:47.31PaeneFinally figured out which addon was throwing that damn SecureHandlers error that keeps popping up
01:48.27Xinhuanwhich?
01:48.46quiescens->
01:49.51PaeneAGUF
01:49.59Paenewhen someone joins group and you're in combat
01:50.04Paeneat least for the party frames
01:51.06Xinhuanxperl ftw ;p
01:51.31Paene:)
01:52.27Kilrooscratches his head...
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02:01.06Belazorpaene likes the cawk
02:01.14Repo10easydkp: 03Pericles * r28 / (4 files in 3 directories): EasyDKP: -
02:01.14Reponow matches looting text
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02:02.27Repo10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 * r24 Track-o-Matique.lua: * Experimental German support.
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02:03.25Repo10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 041.9beta1 * r25 : Tagging as 1.9beta1
02:06.26TorhalXinhuan: How the hell can someone write an addon and completely fail to understand version control?
02:06.28TorhalHeh
02:08.16Xinhuanwhy not
02:08.22Xinhuansome of my addons aren't on source control
02:08.35Xinhuanthey are that simple you don't need source control for it
02:09.32TorhalI'm just trying to wrap my head around someone who can write an addon yet cannot understand source control.
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02:09.38TorhalI understand not needing it for small projects...but not understanding it at all just boggles me.
02:09.38KilrooThat is a bit of a puzzler.
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02:10.08Xinhuani didn't understand it either, until 1 year ago, Torhal
02:11.07KilrooNot understanding svn I can see. I personally hadn't ever used anything but manual backups for version control until I worked at a place that used Visual Sourcesafe. That was easy to understand. Then when I went to read up on svn and various dvcs's I got thoroughly confused by branches and trunks and so forth...I'm still trying to grasp some parts of it.
02:12.40TorhalXinhuan: But you do now. Which means you tried. This guy on the forums is throwing the towel in after one experience.
02:12.44TorhalMind-boggling.
02:12.54Xinhuanhis loss ;p
02:12.56TorhalAye
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02:13.13Xinhuansee, he just wants a simple 1 click method to upload his zip addon
02:13.19Xinhuanhe doesn't care about svn or whatnot
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02:25.48Matrix110uh
02:25.52Matrix110ButtonBin looks awesome
02:26.12Matrix110gotta try it out
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02:27.07Fastilink
02:27.47Matrix110~project ButtonBin
02:27.57Matrix110hmm ultrafail
02:28.21Matrix110@project ButtonBin
02:28.21RepoMatrix110: No project found that matches 'ButtonBin'
02:28.29Matrix110even more fail
02:28.48Matrix110http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=13736
02:29.02syerenhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/button-bin/
02:29.16Xinhuan@project button-bin
02:29.16RepoXinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/button-bin/. Button Bin. Game: WoW. Leader: dhedbor. Updated: 43 hours ago. Tickets: 1/1
02:29.18Xinhuani win
02:29.24Matrix110no you cheat
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02:29.37Matrix110its named ButtonBin so the project CANT BE NAMED DIFFERENTLY
02:29.39Matrix110thats impossible
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02:30.05Matrix110inconsitensy(sp?) everywhere
02:30.15Matrix110after watching 10eps of Monk that drives me crazy
02:31.21Matrix110I should goto bed gn8 :P
02:34.30Yssarilwhat would be the sanest way to implement a GUI like http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2492/guiif9.jpg ? each square would be a checkbox and you may only have one selected per column but may have multiple selected per row
02:34.58Repo10proximo: 03Grayhoof * r152 / (4 files in 1 directory): Proximo: Updates for trinket code
02:35.01Yssarilin wow that is :P
02:35.24Xinhuancreate 40 checkboxes.
02:35.26Repo10proximo: 03Grayhoof 04beta 2.42 * r153 : Tagging as beta 2.42
02:36.06Yssarilyea but its gonna look kinda ugly cause you cant angle text like that unless something changed
02:36.19Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r169 TradeskillInfoUI (3 files in 1 directory): - Do not move windows when UI scale changes
02:36.19Repo- Make the main window resizable
02:36.23Xinhuanwell, you don't ;p
02:36.42Yssarilrely on tooltips?
02:36.53Xinhuanpossibly
02:37.39Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys 04v1.1-beta7 * r170 : Tagging as v1.1-beta7
02:38.08Xinhuanin my expert opinion, you should just have 5 dropdown menus
02:38.16Xinhuaneach containing selectable dropdowns 1-8
02:39.34Zhinjioyup. 5 dropdowns makes the most sense
02:40.03Yssarilmight have been worded poorly but basically what it would be fore is that you can create macros and they will be used depending on the situation so on the top would be the sittuations like IsSwimming while on the side is the macro name
02:40.18Brunersquestion, what is rasist about asians and doing nails ?
02:40.20Xinhuandoesn't change my answer
02:41.17Xinhuandropdown menu "is swimming", then the dropdown contains a list of macros it should be enabled for.
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02:41.36Yssarilhmm that would work
02:41.41Yssarilthanks Xinhuan
02:42.27DARKGuyHm, for an alliance rogue, what's best... aldor or scryer? XD I never knew the pros and cons of any :p
02:42.37Xinhuanyou can't actually use Acegui to do this btw ;p
02:42.42Brunersscryer crit aldor attack power
02:42.48YssarilDARKGuy: dont thinnk it will matter much come wotlk :P
02:42.49Xinhuanif you do, you have to use type="multiselect"
02:42.54Xinhuanwhich would be a lot of checkboxes
02:43.51YssarilXinhuan: simple select should work since you can only have one macro per situation
02:43.54linear`anyone know a wayt o get a list of all the classes localized
02:44.07DARKGuyYssaril: yeah well with the floating dalaran and all xD. But still I wonder :p
02:44.20AckisDARKGuy hi
02:44.21DARKGuyhmmm
02:44.24DARKGuycrit or ap for a rogue...
02:44.26DARKGuymmmm...
02:44.30DARKGuyAckis: hey :D
02:44.47Xinhuanlinear`: yes - copy it from an existing addon, like Omen3
02:44.59Yssarilscryer was burst dmg and aldor is sustained dmg imo
02:46.02linear`bleh i think ill just use icons
02:49.03Antiarcaldor neck is far better for rogues
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02:50.08KarlThePaganvhaarr, I have a fix for ClosetGnome - when players level changes all of the item link strings they originate change
02:50.49Fasticurse search wants to search for "buttonbin" not "button-bin"
02:51.02Fastiwhich returns 0
02:51.47linear`anyone know the syntax for adding a texture to a string
02:52.51linear`nvm found it
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03:05.22Obelixprimeis there a small addon that embeds quest objectives into your tooltip that aren't carbonite quest or quest helper?
03:08.10TorhalObelixprime: QuestGuru does, but that also may be too heavyweight for you.
03:09.04Obelixprimei was using questfu, but for some reason it blocks my error frame
03:09.19Xinhuanoutdated questfu
03:09.27ZhinjioObelixprime: that has a one line fix
03:09.30Zhinjiosame with nquestlog
03:09.41Obelixprimeoh?
03:09.45Xinhuanyes
03:09.46Obelixprimei'd like to hear what it is
03:09.55Xinhuanjust blizzard's "self" argument passing
03:10.00Xinhuanadding an extra word fixed it
03:10.41Obelixprimewhere could I find more information on how to add the fix?
03:10.51Xinhuanyou don't, you just download the latest questfu
03:10.56Xinhuanwhich is fixed
03:10.56Obelixprimefrom where?
03:11.02Obelixprimecurse?
03:11.05Xinhuanfrom whereveer has the latest
03:11.26Xinhuanwas fixed over 2 weeks ago fyi
03:11.45leech2kWhere would I find documentation on width setting in ace3 options table?
03:11.59ObelixprimeFuBar_QuestsFu-r80825.3.zip is what I recently downloaded
03:12.10Xinhuanleech2k: there isn't one, your only options are width="double" "full" and "half"
03:12.31leech2kWhat is double?
03:12.32XinhuanObelixprime, yeah that one is totally unupdated
03:12.41Xinhuanit means exactly what it says - Double
03:13.39XinhuanObelixprime: http://www.wowace.com/projects/fu-bar_quests-fu/
03:13.46Xinhuansee the  r393 zip?
03:13.55leech2khmm didn't do anything to my ui
03:14.40syerenObelixprime: http://www.wowace.com/projects/fu-bar_quests-fu/files/753-r393/
03:14.51Obelixprimeoh
03:14.58Obelixprimedidn't know you could download stuff from wowace.com still
03:15.12Zhinjioyou have to have an account
03:15.15Zhinjiootherwise, yes
03:15.20Obelixprimei just picked up whatever was on curse
03:15.22Obelixprimehmmm
03:15.28Obelixprimei'll look at wowace then first in the future
03:15.29Obelixprimethanks
03:18.32ZhinjioAntiarc: something's whacked
03:18.46Zhinjiothe only thing that has changed recently is Aiieeeee
03:18.52ZhinjioI'm flying in nagrand.
03:18.59Zhinjiotrying to equip the goggles for the daily
03:19.05Zhinjioand they're auto-un-equipping immediately
03:19.11Zhinjiodoes that make any sense
03:19.52TorhalObelixprime: You normally want to look at Curse first because most stuff on WoWAce will be Alpha versions. In this case, QuestsFu was never set as beta or release so it never went to Curse.
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03:20.37ZhinjioAntiarc: further: I'm using the latest on wowace, and still seeing that behavior on login
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03:30.44Kilrooum.
03:30.54Kilroook, definitely got something wrong there.\
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03:32.32Repo10libfilter-1-0: 03Nayala * r29 modules/ (3 files in 3 directories):
03:32.33RepoTicket Baggins_LibFilter-2: Fixes detection of Outfitter Initialization
03:32.34RepoAdds presets support for LibFilter_Outfitter which should allow it to be used in Combuctor.
03:44.30Repo10baggins_closet-gnome: 03Nayala 042008-11-08 * r44 :  (Message trimmed by 2 lines)
03:44.31RepoTagging for release 2008-11-08
03:44.32RepoAdds Combuctor support for Outfitter, ItemRack and ClosetGnome
03:44.32RepoFixes some Outfitter filter issues.
03:44.36RepoAdds option to Professions filter to restrict to primary professions.
03:44.40Repo10baggins_item-rack: 03Nayala 042008-11-08 * r49 :  (Message trimmed by 2 lines)
03:44.51Nayala|AFKSorry repo :(
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03:45.37NayalaGuess it doesn't like it when I tag all my projects at the same time.
03:47.09KilrooI believe I have determined that if one tries to set the width of a portrait equal to the height of something that does not at that time have a defined height, one gets a portrait that takes up as much width as it can find.
03:49.03KilrooWhat puzzles me is what I managed to do in the process of changing which frames get portraits that caused my TT and TTT frames to disappear completely.
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04:07.56KilrooI'm not sure which strikes me as more odd. The fact that while my chat settings are locked I can't seem to select the combat log tab, or the fact that whether I have portraits set to show on my TOT and TOTT frames seems to determine whether they show up at all.
04:08.22kenlyricI doubt those are related
04:08.33kenlyricso you probably don't want to compare them
04:08.45KilrooOh, I don't think they're related at all
04:09.05KilrooI just can't decide which seems the most peculiar.
04:09.18KilrooNeither one seems to make any sense whatsoever.
04:10.24Kilroohmm
04:11.20Kilrooperhaps I should switch what goes in chat1 vs chat6 for this layout, since I don't seem to be able to have the combat log docked with chat6...
04:11.39KilrooI'll take a look at all that stuff tomorrow though.
04:11.49Kilroosleeptimeisnow.
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05:05.38leech2kI would like to use SendAddonMessage to communicate with guild and raid both, but how do I prevent sending message to same person twice?
05:06.38Xinhuanyou can't
05:06.49doom0ruse verizon for a carrier
05:06.59doom0rone should drop
05:07.09Xinhuanyour only solution is to send it to WHISPER for everyone
05:07.57linear`would this pattern capture the index of party1-4 or partypet1-4 properly "^party[pet]*([1-4])$"
05:08.03leech2klol wow
05:08.17Xinhuanlinear`: no
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05:08.29linear`whats wrong with it
05:08.43Xinhuanhmm acutally it will
05:08.55Xinhuanbut you should just string.match(%d)
05:09.03Xinhuanand it'll probably be faster
05:09.40Xinhuanlua> string.match("party4", "(%d)")
05:09.41lua_botXinhuan: 4
05:09.46Xinhuanlua> string.match("partypet34", "(%d)")
05:09.46lua_botXinhuan: 3
05:09.55Xinhuanlua> string.match("partypet34", "(%d+)")
05:09.56lua_botXinhuan: 34
05:09.58Xinhuanthere
05:10.03linear`well
05:10.06linear`theres arenaids now
05:10.09linear`i gotta check against that too
05:10.16Xinhuanlua> string.match("arena4", "(%d+)")
05:10.16lua_botXinhuan: 4
05:10.20Xinhuanit matches any number
05:10.25linear`ya
05:10.29linear`i only want party ones
05:10.34KriLL3hmm, just updated my chipset drivers and while my FPS isn't higher in towns etc it seems a lot... smoother somehow
05:10.44KriLL3before I had odd stops and starts, now it's smooth
05:10.52Repo10ag_unitframes: 03kagaro * r674 modules/combopoints/combopoints.lua:
05:10.53Repoag_UnitFrames: adjust combo point show to be consisten in config mode.
05:11.04linear`lua> string.match("partypet34", "party[pet]*(%d+)")
05:11.05lua_botlinear`: 34
05:11.18sztanpetKriLL3 could be vertical sync
05:11.19Xinhuanof course there aren't really 34 party members
05:11.22Xinhuanthe max is just 4
05:11.25linear`yeah
05:11.29KriLL3sztanpet: I had it on before and after
05:11.58linear`i still need to use party[pet]* so i don't get arenaids
05:13.08Xinhuanlua> string.match("party3", "party[pet]*(%d+)")
05:13.08lua_botXinhuan: 3
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05:31.26FroMasterCan Mapster do weypoints?
05:33.50doom0rmapster is a map
05:33.53doom0rthat's it
05:33.55doom0ruse tomtom
05:39.59doom0rwhoever was in charge of Skettis should be fired
05:40.19FroMasterYou getting too much love from the birds?
05:40.40doom0rthey attack me anywhere, but when i have the cooking quest, they won't come to me even when i frostbolt em
05:41.02FroMasterI land on a egg platform and then fight them
05:41.04doom0rhamstring on ME shouldn't slow my bird down, and neither should me being dazed dismount me
05:41.19doom0rand then the escort starts pulling random mobs out of his path by a lot
05:41.45doom0reverything there is fail
05:44.34PrimerDoes the beta curse client support blacklisting?
05:44.46Primeror some sort of "don't upgrade this addon if you didn't install it"?
05:46.07PrimerBecause there's an addon that exists on curse, but it's not updated, and it is updated on wowinterface, and curse keeps downgrading it after I upgrade it manually
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05:51.23Repo10dgks: 03leech * r92 dgks.lua: dgks:Added Guild broadcast.
05:51.24RepoAdded more toggles to turn stuff off.
05:51.25RepoAdded reset to default filename button.
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05:57.07GnarfozPrimer: ignore the addon?
05:57.58KriLL3Yssaril: any plans on fixing the aquatic form problem?
05:58.29YssarilKriLL3: yep havent gotten around to it yet
05:59.07KriLL3putting "/cast [swimming] aquatic form" at the start of all macros if you're a druid would fix it
05:59.19PrimerGnarfoz: I can find no "ignore addon" in cuse
05:59.20Primercurse
06:00.04KriLL3if you're not underwater that line is skipped and it goes on to the next line, if you are you switch to aquatic form
06:00.33GnarfozPrimer: "toggle auto updated"
06:00.38Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r93 version: GatherMate_Data: Weekly update
06:00.39Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro 04v1.09 * r94 : GatherMate_Data: weekly update
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06:01.53Repo10ag_unitframes: 03kagaro * r675 modules/totems/totems.lua:
06:01.54Repoag_UnitFrames: adjust config mode for Totem so they dont vanish while moving.
06:03.47chexsum_boggles @ his 2 nicks
06:04.09chexsum_trillian irc is so broke
06:04.49KriLL3I've yet to find a IM client that does IRC right
06:05.06NeoTronisn't that sort of like finding a newspaper that does toilet paper right?
06:05.12doom0ryup
06:05.34KriLL3I use chatzilla :>
06:05.45KriLL3written my own .css for the output
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06:06.10kagaroAckis: you there?
06:07.26chexsum_i used to use pjirc and will go back to it soon
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06:12.23PrimerGnarfoz: ahh thanks
06:13.32Primerreally would LOVE to know what causes windows to take 5 minutes to delete 2 directories
06:13.44Primerwhich have maybe 20 small files in them, total
06:14.00Primerhard drive thrashing the entire time
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06:22.21KriLL3Primer: fragmentation, busy with other HDD activities etc
06:24.23Primereven deleting one file it does this
06:24.26Primertotal crap
06:24.37PrimerI can boot Linux and rm -f /dos/file and it's instant
06:25.06PrimerI'd love to trace the process to see exactly what it's doing
06:25.11Primerbecause the drive is NOT busy before I start
06:25.46Primerand surely just removing entries from the FAT isn't affected by any sort of fragmentation
06:30.50LoonacyPrimer:  It has to check with the DHS to make sure those files are allowed to be deleted.
06:31.15Primerbut I have the DHS port blocked!
06:31.46LoonacyWell that's why it's taking so long, it has to wait to time out.
06:32.31sylvanaarfragmentation isnt as bad as you think. as long as you have good locality of reference
06:33.54sylvanaarif you buy a 1TB hd and run it  as your 1 system partition - you are hopeless anyways
06:34.00sylvanaarvista by the way?
06:34.22Primerno, XP
06:34.25sylvanaaroh FAT32 on XP
06:34.31Primerno, NTFS on XP
06:34.36fewyn[zzz]people still use fat32?
06:34.41sylvanaar<PROTECTED>
06:34.48sylvanaarut has its uses
06:35.25PrimerI wish the achievement tracker would track how many kills I have in an opposing faction's city
06:35.33PrimerToday I fished up old crafty in org
06:35.40Primerand remained to get the 5 kills
06:35.47Primerbut the damn guards come out of nowhere
06:37.04sylvanaarmy machine - is so sick - i dont have the right tools to diagnose it, butits disk related, and my system just crawls
06:37.49doom0ra desktop should never ever ever be bottlenecked by disk io
06:38.19sylvanaarsounds great in theory
06:38.21Primersigh...seems I'm not getting 5.1 sound from wow any more
06:38.32doom0rno theory
06:38.37doom0rif it is, somethings messed up
06:40.41sylvanaarsure, the explorer process is single threaded Your disks are probably not running at thier best transfer rates. Southbrige "value add"
06:41.42Primerthey are
06:41.58PrimerI've tested. The disk control panel applet has a speed tester
06:42.01sylvanaardid you check the FMA?
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06:42.07sylvanaarDMA
06:42.44Primeryeah, it's fine
06:42.48sylvanaarnot tomention - the slowest component on the system is the disk
06:43.42sylvanaarand addind more disks actually sholw the system down in most cases
06:43.51KriLL3for some odd reason my whole PC gets super slow when I'm using the disk a lot, like moving big stuff or patching wow :(
06:43.58sylvanaarright
06:44.03sylvanaarbus saturation
06:44.14KriLL3I got a x48 mobo...
06:44.20sylvanaarit doesnt matter
06:44.21doom0remi maybe?
06:44.36doom0rusing a raid controller?
06:44.53KriLL3it got a raid controller, I'm not using raid thoug
06:45.00sylvanaaryou can use an external controler but that doesnt cure all your bus stauration woes
06:46.36Primermost low end raid controllers use software anyhow
06:47.03sylvanaarthe intel ones do - case in point
06:47.29PrimerI believe the nvidia ones do too
06:47.55KriLL3it's and intel board
06:47.57KriLL3*an
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06:51.26Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r122 / (3 files in 1 directory):
06:51.28RepoFix slight glitch in db defaults that caused everything to stop at last step in quests.
06:51.28Repo-next time ask someone what ["*"] means.
06:52.16sylvanaarfor $50 yuu can buy one
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06:54.16sylvanaarNVida make the southbridge
06:55.04KriLL3I live Nvidia videocards, but not their mobos/chipsets
06:55.16NivFreaklol
06:55.19sylvanaarintel makes the best mobos
06:55.20NivFreakjust dropped muru in a pug
06:55.23NivFreakgg nerfed content
06:55.26NivFreakon KJ now
06:55.29NivFreakI got melee trinket!
06:55.34KriLL3heh
06:55.38NivFreakso hot
06:55.50KriLL3I remember people screaming in pain and outrage over endless muru wipes
06:55.58NivFreakyea
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06:59.10ZyndromeM'uru, Professional Guild Killer
06:59.21Zyndrome1-800-Sunwell
06:59.31Primerheh, our guild was 0/6 SWP, and today we got KJ to 29%
06:59.34Primerfirst attempt
07:00.46Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r1729 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update
07:05.16smoke_is there a way to get the pitbull auras to have the debuff and buffs put together in 1 frame?
07:05.16NivFreakwe wiped on the demons before KJ
07:05.17NivFreakhaha
07:05.19smoke_idk if that makes sense
07:05.36selckinbeen there done that got the tshirt
07:05.37smoke_because basically right now no matter how i set it up it comes up as 2 different secctions in the "frame"
07:08.18Primersigh...can't get wow to do 5.1 any more
07:08.32PrimerAnyone know if there's any known issue regarding this?
07:09.00Primernm
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07:09.08Primerseems there's a "creative console" that controls this
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07:21.38Repo10magicrunes: 03dhedbor * r13 MagicRunes.lua:
07:21.38Repo- Added configurable alpha levels for ready runes out of combat and in combat, active runes with a duration longer and shorter than the gcd as well as an option to fade between the two active alpha levels as remaining cooldown changes.
07:21.42thulhttp://fc85.deviantart.com/fs39/i/2008/313/a/3/My_work_here_is_over_by_cainadamsson.jpg
07:21.45thulportrait of the day :-P
07:23.13Zhinjiovery nice
07:23.21thulthank you :-)
07:24.50NivFreakwell that was cool, at least I got to see KJ pre-wrath
07:25.01NivFreakmaybe we'll kill him tomorrow :)
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07:49.38Repo10magicrunes: 03dhedbor * r14 MagicRunes.lua:
07:49.39Repo- Added options to set background texture and background texture color.
07:50.22NeoTronnerfed content makes me a sad panda
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07:58.39AckisXinhuan: do you know if the aldor/scryer feat is working?
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07:58.45Xinhuanhuh
07:59.08Ackisthere's a feat for going exalted aldor and exalted scryer
07:59.22Xinhuani dont even think its in the game
08:00.09Ackishttp://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=1205
08:00.28Xinhuanwell if its doable, someone would have posted there
08:00.41Ackisi'm looking...
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08:07.08leech2kUsing AceDB can I set a mod back to defaults?
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08:13.22Repo10baggins_altlevel: 03ZorbaTHut 07master * 1.0.3-1-geb37712 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
08:13.23Repoeb37712: curse packager sucks, trying to fix it
08:13.24Repob6a832f: bump toc
08:17.03Repo10compmaster: 03Turaka * r37 / (2 files in 1 directory): [fixed] Still was summoning at fishing
08:17.03Repo[fixed] To much resummoning (should be fixed)
08:17.04Repo[added] Added an option to disable wmu summoning, this is temporary.
08:17.34Repo10compmaster: 03Turaka 04v1.9.3 * r38 : * Tag 1.9.3
08:20.55kimurin@project compmaster
08:20.55Repokimurin: http://www.wowace.com/projects/compmaster/. Companion Master. Game: WoW. Leader: Turaka. Updated: 2 minutes ago
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08:23.44sylvanaarCanahas so-much-hiasyoruuit
08:25.27sylvanaarits somthing atht teh soutbride chipset deals tieh.
08:26.14sylvanaarbus sturation, latency, qklkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
08:26.35sylvanaarnice
08:26.40sylvanaarbed time
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08:30.13sylvanaar~seen pazza
08:30.16purlpazza <n=mobile@toffice.expresstaxrefund.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 246d 10h 56m 35s ago, saying: '/MSG pazza test'.
08:30.46sylvanaarsmacks pul, liar!
08:31.27smoke_can soemone give me a link to libdogtag api/wiki?
08:32.04Stanzillaold.wowace.com/wiki/LibDogTag-3.0 *guess*
08:32.09Stanzilla+ /dog ingame
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08:37.00AckisI have enough scryer stuff to go from hated to exalted now.. whee
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08:37.33Repo10debuff-enough: 03Nickodemus_wow * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory): fix remaining edge cases
08:39.20Repo10fubar_ammofu: 03alar 07alar * r80 / (3 files in 1 directory): FuBar_AmmoFu:
08:39.20Repo- Displays the used ammo in button text (configurable)
08:39.21Repo- Displays in tooltip all available ammo and let equip them clicking on tooltip
08:39.25Repo- Display the current ammo icon instead of generic arrow
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08:41.14theoddone33now
08:41.21theoddone33time to see if I can get my 61 war to 70 before wotlk
08:41.26theoddone33probably not
08:45.36Repo10dgks: 03leech * r93 / (2 files in 1 directory): dgks:Added killingstreak reset on zoning.
08:45.38RepoAdded profile management.
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08:45.46Repo10debuff-enough: 03Nickodemus_wow * r8 DebuffEnough.toc: Fix missing dependency
08:46.13Speeddymonwhats up with cf?
08:48.19Repo10debuff-enough: 03Nickodemus_wow * r9 .pkgmeta: also, a pkgmeta file might help
08:52.04Adirellehrm, Git and Hg don't expose tags in repo URLs, do they ?
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09:02.23Repo10proximo: 03TrAsHeR * r154 locals/localization-frFR.lua: frFR update
09:03.53CIA-63tekticles: 03Tekkub 07master * rc4943a8 10/ tekticles.lua : Missed SystemFont_Small - http://is.gd/6LwC
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09:24.14theoddone33there's a war on my server t hat dual wields cataclysm's edge
09:24.28theoddone33looks pretty cool, yay titan's grip!
09:24.49Zyndromethere's pixels on my monitor
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09:54.35Repo10cartographer_quest-info: 03lahow * r67 / (2 files in 1 directory): Cartographer_QuestInfo:
09:54.36Repo- add check for quest link
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10:18.13Repo10magicrunes: 03dhedbor * r15 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Added the ability to put the timer on the icon.
10:18.14Repo- Added toggle to show/hide the spark.
10:18.14Repo- Added a preset that only has icons with a timer on them, no bars.
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10:31.30DaemonaAntiarc is Aieeeeee! supposed to trigger on login? ;)
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10:41.34Repo10magicrunes: 03dhedbor * r16 MagicRunes.lua:
10:41.35Repo- Added option to fade between GCD and ready alpha levels as well.
10:41.36Repo- Added option to display one decimal place or zero when the remaning cooldown is less than the gcd.
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10:44.26Repo10magicrunes: 03dhedbor * r17 MagicRunes.lua: - Fixed typo in the configuration.
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10:56.14Repo10button-bin: 03dhedbor * r47 ButtonBin.lua:
10:56.15Repo- Added option to set the tooltip scale (global/bin/block level available). Caveat: Only works on tooltips managed by ButtonBin, not custom OnEnter shown once, such as TabletLib
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10:59.24sbAntiarc: thanks for levitate/slowfall change, but now it unequips all items on login (+re-equipps then) :p
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11:11.33Repo10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.2.0-beta1-5-g670913e / (16 files in 3 directories): [+5 commits] (1 truncated)
11:11.34Repo670913e: Linked the PetButton action dragging to the master "Button Lock" setting in the config
11:11.34Repo4ca8075: Added Bindings.xml to allow binding of keys through the Blizzard KeyBinding menu
11:11.38Repo6073cc7: Updated frFR locale by Pettigrow
11:11.42Repo9d77edc: MicroMenu now uses the default ButtonBar template, which enables it to use full Row control
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11:18.15Fisker-http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12454678528&sid=1 <-Someone tell those n00bs that the authenticator code is made invalid after use
11:19.43charonisn't that thing challenge-response based?
11:20.12Fisker-What do you mean?
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11:20.47charonwell, the server essentially wants you to prove that you own a certain authenticator, right
11:21.28charonand the standard way to do that is it gives you a random number (challenge), that together with the authenticator's internal "secret" gives another random number (response), which you send back to the server
11:21.43charonand the server, knowing the authenticator's secret, can then verify that the answer is right
11:21.49charonshrugs
11:21.59vithosi think it's just time based, but i don't own one
11:22.29vithosis it possible to get RSS of your addon favorites list at curse?
11:23.46Arrowmastercharon: its a time based system
11:24.07asmodaiman, sending /who queries on my server is taking a shitload of time.
11:26.31Fisker-sure charon
11:26.32charonah, google helped... time based of all things o.O
11:26.35Daemonaif you really care, go to vasco.com and readup on the digipass go 6 ? ;)
11:27.43Fisker-Anyways i know that the instant the code is used, it cannot be reused
11:28.05Fisker-Of course reused = reused in those moments the key was valid
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11:28.43Fisker-So technically if you had 40 accounts on the same authenticator and had to log them all in, then you would need 40 different codes
11:29.05Fisker-This also makes keylogging harder
11:29.24Fisker-Because even if keyloggers got the input key, then it would still be invalid due to already being processed once
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11:31.47asmodaioh man
11:31.50asmodai*blinks*
11:32.16asmodaiArrowmaster: need your expertise a bit
11:33.10asmodaiArrowmaster: is it possible that an addon's execution is stalled until you force a frame/window/whatever refresh by moving over another addon's frame, which does some graphical refresh?
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11:35.42Xinhuanwhat do you mean by "addon's execution is stalled"
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11:36.22Xerosshey
11:36.27Xerossi have a problem with routes addon
11:36.33Xinhuanyes?
11:36.41Xerosswhen i do the slash command i get the following error http://pastebin.com/m5ad0b647
11:37.13Xinhuanwhich version of cartographer are you using
11:37.23asmodaiXinhuan: well
11:37.29Xerossuh am using carbonite that emulates cartographer waypoints
11:37.31asmodaiXinhuan: in this case census+ sends a /who every 5 seconds
11:37.36Xerossso i should get cartographer again
11:37.38asmodaiXinhuan: to build up its census database
11:37.50Xerossor does it depend on libs that come with cartographer
11:37.52Xinhuanwell that would be a problem Xeross, Routes only recognizes Cartographer2's version of waypoints
11:37.54asmodaiXinhuan: But recently I found that my census was dropping to weird numbers.
11:37.58asmodaiXinhuan: very low results
11:38.17asmodaiXinhuan: So I turned on verbose and I see that it sometimes takes like minutes before it sends the next /who out.
11:38.18Xerosscarbonite emulates that code it also intercepts lightheaded cartographer waypoint code
11:38.31Daemonaoh man, this is epic fail, android based cellphones will reboot anytime you type "reboot" anywhere on the cellphone :D
11:38.31asmodaiXinhuan: I figured at first it was something to do with Blizzard's servers, we know the shit they had recently.
11:38.34StanzillaXinhuan: he does not use carto at all *points to addon list*
11:38.38Xinhuanwell its emulation is pretty bad asmodai ;p
11:38.49ZeksieXeross: well.. it obviously doesn't.
11:38.52Xerossill get cartographer then
11:38.58Xerossand report to the creator of carbonite
11:39.07Xinhuanbecause Cartographer uses a module system
11:39.08asmodaiXinhuan: I now found that when I cause SexyMap to fade in the minimap buttons (basically cause it to refresh)
11:39.16asmodaiXinhuan: that Census+ would send the next /who out
11:39.19Xinhuanand i can check for Waypoint's existance
11:39.25asmodaiXinhuan: I now turned SexyMap off
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11:39.30Xinhuanby doing Cartographer:HasModule("Waypoints")
11:39.31asmodaiXinhuan: and boom, it works how it should again.
11:39.37harlyou're mixing up people
11:39.39asmodaiXinhuan: Not sure which one is 'at fault' here.
11:39.58Xinhuanasmodai: probably the OnUpdate that tracks the /who is on a frame
11:40.03Xinhuanthat sexymap is hiding
11:40.11XinhuanOnUpdates don't occur on hidden frames
11:40.41asmodaiMmm
11:40.57asmodaiSo which addon would most likely need to be looked at/fixed? :)
11:41.12Xinhuanwell the emulator needs to be fixed
11:41.19Xinhuanbecause it isn't emulating the module system
11:41.23asmodaiEmulator in this case being?
11:41.31Xinhuanthe code in ROutes first check for the addon "Cartographer"
11:41.39harlas i said, you're mixing up people
11:41.44Xinhuanthen it checks that the module called Waypoints exists for the addon Cartographer
11:41.52Xinhuanthen it checks that the Waypoints module is ENABLED
11:42.03Xinhuanif all 3 checks pass, then we start using waypoints :)
11:42.33Xinhuanright now, the emulator doesn't have the function to check for modules
11:42.38Xinhuanor their enabled status
11:43.07Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r171 / (3 files in 2 directories):
11:43.07Repo- Fix: Do not update known tradeskills of the player when a trade skill link is opened
11:43.09Repo- Include zhTW changes from arioso27
11:43.29Xinhuan(why is carbonite trying to emulate cart anyway?)
11:44.50orionshockwasn't there a way now in 3.0 to find your location in a instance?
11:45.17harlthere should be
11:45.31Xinhuanorionshock: reverted by blizz
11:45.50orionshock:(
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11:47.40nevcairielit still works for like 2 instances or so
11:47.52Xinhuanso Xeross, you have 2 choices ;p 1. don't use that part of carbonite 2. use cartographer2 3. delete modules\waypoints.lua from Routes addon (yes its deletable)
11:47.57Xinhuanso 3 choices
11:49.08Megalon4. do nothing and live happily ever after!
11:49.20harlexactly
11:51.09Xinhuanwell carbonite is a pay-to-use addon, for personal reasons, i do not support them, partly because i'm not paying just to make ppl happy ;p
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11:57.24Xerossi just installed cartographer next to it
11:57.36Xerossworks fine
11:58.49Xinhuan:)
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11:59.49Arrowmasterjust use tomtom for waypoints
12:02.18asmodai<3 tomtom
12:03.14Daemonaoh man
12:03.20Daemonawhoever had the idea to store macros server side
12:03.30Daemonaand then not make them overwrite protect
12:03.33Daemonashould be shot
12:03.36TorhalCarbonite Quest is also awesome with table usage. So awesome that it racks up 5MB rather quickly.
12:03.59MegalonDaemoen: acc sharing fun? >:P
12:04.03Daemonai just wiped all my macros by logging in from a fresh install to test some stuff
12:04.09Daemonano megalon
12:04.12Daemonai dont share
12:04.25Megalonah fresh intall, hrhr
12:05.06Megalonerm, even if you have no macros you delete your serverside ones?
12:05.20Daemonayes
12:05.30Megalonthats a kinda nice feature then :/
12:05.31Daemonait basically copies the local over the remote ones
12:05.39Daemonaand if local is empty ...
12:05.44Daemonapoooof
12:05.53Daemonathis is so stupid
12:05.55Daemonagargl
12:07.23Repo10libhealcomm-3-0: 03xbeeps * r12 LibHealComm-3.0.toc:
12:07.24RepoDummy submit to try to make the packager notice that there's a new version...
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12:08.23Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1730 / (3 files in 3 directories): More Inscription
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12:10.47profalbertphyber: ping
12:10.57phyberprofalbert: pong
12:11.11profalbertvirus-scanner ate your email to me
12:11.36phyberI emailed you? :o
12:11.57profalbert8 Nov 2008 21:15:25 +0900 eine E-Mail von phyber@irc.freenode.net
12:12.24phyberi have no idea what sent that, but it wasn't me. :/
12:12.35profalbertmaybe check your machine
12:13.00profalbertmaybe some virus sent itself
12:13.04phybermy machines are fine.  it didn't come from here.
12:13.16profalbertok. just wanted you to know
12:13.38phyberI'd guess that something harvested that from the BagFu readme.
12:13.43phyberhttp://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=phyber@irc.freenode.net&meta=
12:14.10profalbertah, right
12:14.25phyberstupid spammers :/
12:14.40profalbertthank god, this email-adress is just my "wow-alias"
12:17.19Repo10unit-price: 03xbeeps * r34 UnitPrice.lua: semicolon
12:17.31Xinhuansemicolon?
12:19.01Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz * r42 Core.lua:
12:19.02RepoRestructured the Zone Menu, was causing problems on the dungeon menu being too long for most people with smaller screen sizes.
12:19.03RepoReworked how I use the ZoneMenu in other places to compensate for the change.
12:21.01Repo10libhealcomm-3-0: 03xbeeps * r13 LibHealComm-3.0.lua:
12:21.01RepoYet another dummy submit to make the revision of the library match the revision on the web pages.
12:22.14Xinhuanor he could like, edit the webpage after the commit
12:22.15[SW]DodgeAdirelle: ping, why do you have "db.modules[name] = not not value" in line 172 of your SimpleSelfRebuff.lua? why not just "db.modules[name] = value" :)
12:22.16XinhuanDUH
12:22.57Adirelle[SW]Dodge: it forces conversion to boolean
12:23.13Adirelle[SW]Dodge: this could also be written value and true or false
12:23.32[SW]DodgeAdirelle: ah, okay :)
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12:31.05vithosmitch0: awesome updates to RangeDisplay lately
12:31.17theoddone33so this is odd
12:31.31theoddone33on one of my toons I was getting pitbull not appearing when I log on, spamming errors, etc
12:31.54theoddone33if I went into ACP and down to Libraries and disabled dewdroplib and fubarplugin-2.0 it worked fine
12:32.09theoddone33but it would re-enable those two every login so I just took out the folders
12:32.17theoddone33but after I took out the folders pitbull wouldn't apear
12:32.19theoddone33appear
12:32.58Arrowmasterpitbull even uses those?
12:33.15theoddone33doesn't look like it
12:33.16Arrowmastersounds like the issue is something else entirely
12:33.50Arrowmasterand you just broke something else and it happened to stop breaking pitbull since you broke it before it could
12:34.08theoddone33maybe one of the pitbull modules uses them?
12:34.16Arrowmastershouldnt
12:35.01theoddone33hm
12:35.07theoddone33closetgnome, which is old, uses dewdrop
12:35.14theoddone33and fubarplugin-2.0
12:35.25theoddone33yet there's no updated closetgnome that works
12:35.29theoddone33hmm, dillemmas
12:35.36Arrowmastermore like the old version of it you have uses those
12:35.39Arrowmasterits been updated
12:35.50XinhuanArrowmaster, vhaarr never tagged it
12:36.14Arrowmasterits still updated
12:36.23Xinhuanto people who use curse, it isn't
12:36.36Arrowmasterit is to people that use this channel
12:36.39Xinhuanand most people do get their addons off curse, not wowace
12:37.32Megalonpeople are even encouraged to not update directly from wowace
12:38.07theoddone33well if my suspicion is right then I can just disable closetgnome on the t oon that's broken
12:38.12Xinhuanin fact, if you think about it, even ace2, ace3, and most libraries do not have release (or even beta) tags
12:38.24Xinhuanso we're forced to .pkgmeta point to their trunks
12:39.20Xinhuani know some people have been trying to say "point to tags blah blah blah" but there is no tag to point to
12:40.43Arrowmasterand for a lot of libraries there never will be, and if somebody does make a tag, the tag will likely be so far behind trunk its useless
12:41.05Xinhuanso tell the people to stop spreading "point to tags"
12:41.10Xinhuanbecause it will never happen
12:41.15Arrowmasteri do
12:41.18Xinhuanespecially tekkub
12:41.19Arrowmasteri yell at them
12:41.24Xinhuanhe's the whiniest of them all
12:41.43Repo10utopia: 03Zeksie * r33 / (2 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
12:41.43RepoUtopia:
12:41.44Repo- If target is friendly, will view target's target instead.
12:41.46Repo- Rounds talented amounts to nearest int to match WoW values.
12:41.50Repo- Added Boss only show option.
12:41.59Xinhuanself-centered too
12:42.13Xinhuani believe he removed his ldb master branch just so nobody can pkgmeta to it
12:42.27Arrowmasterseriously?
12:42.31Xinhuanhe posted it
12:42.46Xinhuanalthough i didn't check
12:43.15Xinhuanhttp://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14995
12:44.42Pneumatustime to go back to fubar and ignore ldb, tbh
12:44.57phyberaddons for a game are srs bsns.
12:45.04Xinhuanhe does whatever the fuck he wants, and his "my libs are so small they can't be disembedded" is pretty bullshit as well
12:45.27Xinhuan50 copies of libstub on my disk adds up, so does 20 copies of LDB
12:45.43Pneumatusthe issue is worse than that
12:46.00Pneumatusit means you _have_ to maintain your own copy of LDB for every broker plugin
12:46.08Pneumatusso if he pushes an update, you have to manually merge
12:46.15ArrowmasterXinhuan: i think that was a joke, theres no change on github for ldb
12:46.19sb@project utopia
12:46.19Reposb: http://www.wowace.com/projects/utopia/. Utopia. Game: WoW. Leader: Zeksie. Updated: 4 minutes ago. Tickets: 1/2
12:46.42Xinhuanthe fact he even posted something like that is a joke
12:48.01Pneumatusi still dont understand why the wowace community has even adopted a system that isnt even developed here
12:48.25Arrowmasterit was?
12:48.35Xinhuanit was developed on wowace forums actually
12:48.44Xinhuanbut the main coding wasn't done on wowace
12:49.42Arrowmasteryeah for good reason
12:50.15Arrowmasterat that time if you started making a library on wowace somebody would probably go and start using it before you were even done
12:50.15asmodaicoordinating and having programmers agree on things is like herding cats
12:50.30Arrowmasterand youd break whatever they made on every commit you did
12:50.41PneumatusArrowmaster: so what, just let their addons break
12:50.52Pneumatusif they insist on using a library that isnt finished, more fool them
12:50.53Repo10fortress: 03Borlox 041.1 * 5e0bc15 /: [new tag, +2 commits] - Tagging version 1.1 as release version
12:51.01Arrowmasteryeah i should have done that with the last library i wrote
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12:51.07Repo10fortress: 03Borlox 07master * 1.1 Core.lua: [+2 commits]
12:51.08Repo30029a6: - changed .secureTemplates to .secureTemplate (as SBC names it)
12:51.08Repoaa624e4: - removed unused frameLinks table in db
12:51.17Arrowmaster</sarcasm>
12:51.30asmodai:)
12:51.45Xinhuanthe main thing though is that USING a library is how you find bugs in it
12:52.55Arrowmasterif its not in a state that is usable, then it shouldnt be used
12:54.07Xinhuanstill, i dont' agree with how tekkub does things
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12:54.26Arrowmasterneither do i
12:54.53Xinhuanfor eg, if some part of blizz code is faulty, he doesn't code workarounds in his code, he just says fuck you, and say, wait for blizz to fix it
12:55.15Arrowmasterdoesnt his font mod still taint the raidui?
12:55.37Xinhuanhe fixed teknicolor about 1.5 weeks ago
12:55.47Arrowmasternot that one
12:55.49Xinhuanbut that was at least 4 months after i complained about it
12:55.54Arrowmasterthe one thats like clearfont
12:56.05Xinhuanno idea on that one
12:56.14Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.6.3.1-1-g701eb1f / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] - fix order of Pet skill DoTs
12:56.36Arrowmasterit used to taint the raidui just like clearfont does (but you have to uncomment parts of clearfont first)
12:56.44Xinhuanbtw Arrowmaster, the fix was simple too, direct hook ---> change to securehook
12:56.47Xinhuantaint fixed
12:56.54Arrowmasterand tek never fixed it becaue he doesnt raid
12:57.10Xinhuanyeah, hence i said he was self-centered
12:58.12Fisker-Can it be drama tiems_
12:58.13Fisker-?
12:59.05Xinhuanso, back to that thread: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14995
13:00.02Xinhuanshould ace2/ace3 have tag versions?
13:00.08Arrowmasterno
13:00.23Arrowmasterimho tags for libraries is just stupid
13:00.46Arrowmastersince you would have to tag on almost every commit
13:00.58Iboonghttp://www.wired.com/images/slideshow/2007/04/gallery_starwars2/Lucas-with-Camera.jpg
13:01.08Xinhuanwell right now, its pretty stupid already
13:01.12asmodaiwtf
13:01.12Arrowmasterthe 'dont fucking break trunk' rule works better
13:01.19asmodaiCurseClient.exe has encountered a problem
13:01.19Fastinot found
13:01.21Xinhuanbecause a library that gets updated doesn't repackage all addons that use it
13:01.31Xinhuanso a critical fix for eg, won't get pushed out
13:01.43Xinhuanfor example, 3.0.4 breaks something in ace3
13:01.49Xinhuanwe commit a fix to ace3
13:02.02Xinhuannow all addons that use ace3 break until the author tags their addon
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13:03.09Xinhuan'dont fucking break trunk' doesn't apply to blizzard as it is
13:04.45Arrowmasteryeah but look at libraries vs addons and now littl libraries that are actually finished get commits to them
13:05.41Arrowmasterjust about all commits to them are of the kind that would end up with a tag commit directly following it if libraries had to be tagged to be used in externals
13:05.46nevcairielyour argument is flawed anyway
13:06.00nevcairielhow does the packager know its a "fix" it repacks for and not a fuckup?
13:06.01Xinhuanwho's? mine or arrow's?
13:06.06nevcairielyours
13:06.20nevcairielA dev could as well commit a breaking change to trunk
13:06.20Xinhuanthere could be a way to tell the packager
13:06.27nevcairieland it repacks without the dev of the addon knowing
13:06.50Xinhuanwell, the chances that it works is far higher than the chances its broken
13:07.05phyber.pkgmeta - repack-on-library-update: yus
13:07.08Xinhuanand in my hypothetical argument, say patch 3.0.4 breaks the library
13:07.12Xinhuanthen its 100% broken
13:07.13phyberthen they do know, because they opted in ;)
13:07.14Xinhuanin the first place
13:07.19Repo10fbo-h_periodic-table: 03feithar * r29 / (4 files in 2 directories): FBoH_PeriodicTable:
13:07.19Repo- Updated for WoW 3.0. Replaced AceLibrary references with LibStub, and updated the included version of LibPeriodicTable-3.1.
13:07.26Xinhuanso any fix would be a fix
13:07.40Xinhuanor a non-fix that doesn't hurt anyway, since its already broken
13:07.50Arrowmaster'updated the included version of LibPeriodicTable-3.1' hardembedding?........
13:08.08nevcairielyeah but the packager doesnt know which commits are fixes and which are breaks
13:08.19nevcairielso that point is rather invalid
13:08.22Xinhuanso, there should be a way to tell the packager
13:08.32nevcairieltags should never ever be repackaged, imho
13:08.38nevcairieland thats how the curse guys see it to
13:08.41nevcairielso no chance :P
13:08.42Arrowmasternevcairiel: they cant
13:08.55Xinhuannevcairiel, you realize that the only libraries that have tags now, is LS and CBH? ;p
13:09.05Xinhuanand probably the new Qtip
13:09.06Arrowmasterfor good reason
13:09.12nevcairielAce3 has some tags too
13:09.22Xinhuanyeah but those tags are pre-3.0
13:09.34Xinhuanpre 2.4 even
13:09.38nevcairielnot true
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13:09.56Xinhuanso should we be using ace3 tags then?
13:10.03nevcairielno one said that
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13:10.07Xinhuani can say 99% of addons are currently using trunk
13:10.21Adirellebecause there is no 3.0 tag...
13:10.24Arrowmastermore like 100% i bet
13:10.35nevcairielOnly because i tagged it to get beta/release zips doesnt mean everyone should use it
13:11.02Xinhuanso, does this mean we are not supporting tekkub's crusade to only use tagged libs?
13:11.02Arrowmasternevcairiel: just change the release status on the zip instead of tagging imho
13:11.06manyis there some fubar plugin which keeps track of cooldowns?
13:11.07Xinhuani.e someone tell him to stfu?
13:11.09nevcairielArrowmaster: nah
13:11.11ArrowmasterXinhuan: never
13:11.25Arrowmasternever ever supporting only usage of tagged libs
13:11.30Arrowmasterever
13:11.41Xinhuani'm keen to see what nev's view on this is
13:12.09LexSfXmany: i suggest you make a bar with some bar addon, scale it down, put all your cooldowns on it, and use OmniCC for nice cooldown counts.
13:12.12nevcairielThere are 2 ways to that: 1) never ever re-pack tagged addons so the dev knows which version of a lib he has, or 2) use tagged libs
13:12.20nevcairieleither one is fine with me
13:12.35Xinhuanright now, we are on (1) yes?
13:12.38nevcairielya
13:13.33Xinhuancan you respond to the thread then heh
13:13.34Xinhuanhttp://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14995
13:14.14Grumm
13:14.14Adirelle1) is screwed up by lib autoupdating feature: e.g. addonA includes working lib rev N, addonB includes broken lib rev N+1, both are fucked
13:14.51Xinhuanthat's true too
13:14.59nevcairielI can still tell them to only run my addon without anything else
13:15.01nevcairieland it works fine
13:15.02Arrowmasterwhich is solved by the 'dont fucking break trunk' rule
13:15.04manymh
13:15.27Adirellegiven you use only tagged libs and tagged libs are not likely to be broken, the chances to have a broken lib are very small
13:15.27nevcairielWhat i want, is my addon to work in its downloaded form
13:15.38GrumArrowmaster: no nono trunk is for major surgery
13:15.40Xinhuanmy hypothetical patch 3.0.4 that breaks trunk isn't fixable in any way though
13:15.53Xinhuanalthough the chances of that happening is little to none in the first place
13:16.01Xinhuanso its relatively low risk
13:17.50Xinhuanstill its happened before though
13:18.01Xinhuansuch as the font changes to font objects
13:18.27nevcairielthat was a major content patch, an expansion even :p
13:18.56Arrowmasterim going to bed now then, if anybody replys to my post in that thread disagreeing with me or asking why, my bitching them out will have to wait until i wakeup later
13:18.57BelazorAuctioneer still haven't gotten their shit together post-3.0 XD
13:19.04nevcairielauc works fien for me
13:19.13Xinhuan3.0 broke auctioneer? how
13:19.14Belazorits creating 5 errors on startup for me
13:19.27Grumyou did update to the last version right?
13:19.27nevcairielfont and self change
13:19.33Xinhuani didn't think there were any API changes that would break auc, apart from the "self" change
13:19.33nevcairielbut it works fine in the latest version
13:19.37Belazorand money frame shite
13:19.39nevcairielBelazor is just behind
13:19.48Grumi havent had problems with an updated auctioneer
13:19.50BelazorIm not, I made 100% sure I ran latest files :p
13:19.58BelazorIll check again later tho
13:20.07Xinhuandid you update from auctioneer's website?
13:20.11Belazorya
13:20.20Repo10gathermate: 03ozma211 * r588 Locales/GatherMate-koKR.lua: koKR locale fix
13:20.26Belazorfor now Im stuck having to write a plugin interface for a forum PHP script :(
13:20.28nevcairielI run Auc myself
13:20.31nevcairieland i dont get any errors
13:20.38Repo10bayis-extended-questlog: 03nekromant * r181 locales/localization-es.lua: beql: - Updated spanish translation
13:21.06Xinhuanthe one thing i'm happy about with the new repo is the lua compiler check that makes sure there's no syntax errors
13:21.11BelazorIm not rly sure what other addons could be doing this, beyond MoneyFu and OneBag3 I have nothing that is even related to money
13:21.16Xinhuani think that woke up a lot of translators lol
13:21.35Belazor"transl"ation = "ke"k -;
13:21.38BelazorDUR I COMIT DIS
13:22.07Xinhuanwell hard to say Belazor
13:22.13Xinhuana lot of things can have money displays
13:22.15Adirelleso we have curse guys (including kaelten) wanting people to tag their projects (be it addon or lib), .pkgmeta that doesn't support git/hg tags, and several authors that don't support using tagged lib
13:22.17Repo10visualheal: 03xbeeps 048.1 * r14 : Tagging as 8.1
13:22.18Repo- 3.0.3 Compatibility
13:22.19Repo- LibHealComm-3.0 r13
13:22.26Xinhuansuch as possible mail addons, AH addons
13:22.39BelazorPostal is all Im using XD
13:22.41AdirelleI think lots of fun will arise when the curse client starts to handle disembedded lib
13:23.11Xinhuanthe funny thing is Postal doesn't display any money and i've had people cmoplain about to me about postal causing a money frame error
13:23.25Xinhuanthen they paste a stack trace, and i point out that the stack track doesn't contain the word "Postal" in it
13:23.27Xinhuanand they go "oh"
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13:23.46Belazorit prints total money taken when receiving AH money! IZ AL POSTEL FALUT
13:24.52BelazorIll actually go check for updates at their website right now, do the delete old dirs and shit and then pastey the errors (if any) ;p
13:25.28Belazorthat is, if their download server actually wanted to work :p
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13:37.06Repo10quiet-cast: 03Adirelle * r40 / (4 files in 1 directory): Get rid of the libraries.
13:37.41Repo10bayis-extended-questlog: 03nekromant * r182 locales/localization-es.lua: beql: - Updated spanish translation (minor errata)
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13:39.51Drooliois there a way to commit and tag as a release at the same time?
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13:41.41Repo10fbo-h_item-rack: 03feithar * r27 / (2 files in 1 directory): FBoH_ItemRack:
13:41.42Repo- Updated ToC for WoW 3.0. Added code so this now works with ItemRack 2 in addition to the original ItemRack.
13:42.32[SW]DodgeDroolio: as far as i know not... :(
13:43.04Droolioah ok. never tagged before
13:43.10Droolioalso is there much point having a svn:logtemplate with <addon>: name at the beginning of each commit log?
13:43.12QuezacoltHow long does it usually take for a project to be approved after being created?
13:43.16XinhuanDroolio:yes, by commiting directly to the tag folder ;p
13:43.25Xinhuantags folder rather
13:43.48DroolioXinhuan: aha, but that wouldn't be desirable if i wanted to keep trunk updated?
13:43.50Xinhuanbut whatever is there won't be reflected in the trunk
13:43.55Drooliok
13:44.18Xinhuannow you could conceivably commit to both trunk and tags at the same time
13:44.24Xinhuanbut that will just mess up your file history
13:44.48Droolioboth sets of files at the same time you mean?
13:44.52Xinhuanya
13:45.00Drooliomessy :)
13:45.07Repo10fbo-h_periodic-table: 03feithar 041.1 * r30 : Tagging as 1.1
13:45.30Repo10fbo-h_item-rack: 03feithar 041.1 * r28 : Tagging as 1.1
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13:46.10Drooliore logtemplate - still good practice to have one or not really needed with the new repo?
13:46.17Xinhuannot needed
13:46.20Xinhuanshould remove
13:46.29Drooliocool
13:46.35Xinhuanremove embeds.xml too
13:46.39Xinhuanjust put it all in the tOC
13:46.46Drooliowas looking into that
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13:47.46Drooliopackager automatically strips for no-lib then?
13:48.02Xinhuanyou need to supply some special tags in your toc
13:48.11Xinhuanso the packager knows what to strip
13:48.19Drooliothink i saw those
13:48.28Xinhuantry looking at omen's TOC for eg
13:48.32[SW]Dodge#@no-lib-strip@
13:48.32[SW]Dodgelibs....
13:48.32[SW]Dodge#@end-no-lib-strip@
13:48.57Drooliosweet, ta
13:57.58Droolioi imagine X-Embeds is also unnecessary?
13:58.25Xinhuanyah
13:58.29Pneumatuscorrect, x-embeds was just used for the wiki toc parsing
13:58.41Xinhuani think it was also used by WAU
13:58.46Drooliooh
13:58.48Pneumatusah, possibly wau also
13:58.49Xinhuannot sure if any other updaters parse it
13:59.00Xinhuanas it is, i removed it from my addons anyway
14:00.15Drooliois it possible to browse and view files in the git repo? i don't have a client... :)
14:03.08Droolionm, i'll just compare the nolib version
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14:07.16Repo% optons: disable icons size bar if no icons shown
14:07.17Repo% fix errors with possible double-hooking
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14:19.45Repo10key-bound-extra-1-0: 03Azethoth * r33 / (2 files in 2 directories): -- update toc
14:19.45Repo-- one level deeper into lib for svn props
14:24.09wallenDoes anyone know if you can disable the displaying of runes in Pitbull when using a D?
14:24.11wallen*DK
14:25.47Repo10key-bound-extra-1-0: 03Azethoth 04v32 wotlk release * r34 : Tagging as v32 wotlk release
14:28.09vithosthat reminds me.. is there a way to use LibKeyBound with default actionbars?
14:31.24orionshockMaldivia:
14:31.28orionshockMaldivia: ping?
14:32.56orionshock<PROTECTED>
14:35.58Fisker-hah Antiarc
14:35.59Fisker-i was right
14:36.06Fisker-you don't take durability hits in pvp instances
14:36.07Fisker-baww
14:38.26sacarascFisker-: you do... just not from dying
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14:40.47Repo10better-inbox: 03Ammo 04r78-release * r79 : Tagging as r78-release
14:40.47Xinhuanactually, if you jump off the edge of the world in EotS
14:40.50Xinhuanyou will take dura loss
14:40.54Xinhuan10%
14:42.06Repo10money-trail: 03Ammo 04r45-release * r46 : Tagging as r45-release
14:43.02Repo10queeg: 03Drool * r30 / (7 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
14:43.03Repo- bump TOC/version, use no-lib-strip in .toc
14:43.04Repo- remove (no)embeds .xml, remove tsvn:logtemplate
14:43.04Repo- fix paths in svn:externals and .pkgmeta
14:43.08Repo- chat bug fix; replace ChatFrame_ OnEvent with *EventFilter
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14:48.28doom0ri wonder if half the authors out there have ever looked at a tooltip in one of the mod categories on curse
14:50.47Repo10queeg: 03Drool 041.1 * r31 : Tagging as 1.1
14:52.08Drooliotooltip?
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14:52.58doom0rya, when browsing a category, there's a tooltip on mouseover of the mod name links that shows you the main image (if there is one) and the start of the description
14:52.59Elsiaheya
14:53.16doom0rseems no one pays attention to that and the text displayed on most mods is horrendous
14:53.32Elsiais there an easy way to move my curse/curseforge projects to wowace and switch to syndication?
14:54.26Xinhuanyou would need to ask an admin
14:54.41Xinhuanor rather, a superadmin
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14:55.04Kilroook, so, what in the flaming hell and such.
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14:56.12Elsiagief superadmin ;)
14:56.20Xinhuantry asking nevcairiel
14:56.42Elsiapokes nevcairiel.
14:57.06nevcairiel?
14:57.30Elsiaany chance that my curse/curseforge projects can be moved to wowace and syndicated from there?
14:58.12nevcairielwhat do you offer?
14:58.20Elsiacyberhugs?
14:58.29Xinhuanlol
14:58.49nevcairielmmm cyberhugs
14:58.52nevcairielwhich project?
14:58.56Elsiasec
14:59.53ElsiaSimple Range Indicator, InCombatIndicator, BattleObjectivesMover, NewCombatLogTest (that one could be deleted altogether actually), Range Help (Lua fixed)
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15:03.24Kilrooscribbles down problems to fix in his oUF layout. Inadequate text display on target...buffs and debuffs not showing...ToT and ToToT frames inexplicably not showing unless set up with portraits (add'l note: WTF).
15:03.47nevcairieldone
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15:04.38Xinhuanwhat have you been up to Elsia
15:04.39Xinhuan:)
15:04.53Elsiaworkworkwork I fear
15:04.57Xinhuanbtw what's InCombatIndicator do
15:05.10Xinhuanapart from the obvous
15:05.20Elsiait's a text frame showing if you are in combat or not... wrote it back when my main was alt and we did those feign death trickeries
15:05.23Elsiastill useful
15:05.43Xinhuanwell, i just put food(drinks) on my bar, and if its shaded, it means i'm in combat ;p
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15:06.00Elsiayeah but I like things obvious ;)
15:06.08nevcairielI just look at the fighting icon on my UF
15:06.13ElsiaI usually place this under my own unit frame in rather large font
15:06.15Xinhuanhow is a shaded food icon not obvious ;p
15:06.17Xinhuanyeah that too
15:06.23Xinhuanalmost all unit frames show a incombat icon
15:06.32Elsiain combat icon == small
15:06.36profalbertneed shaking screen when in combat?
15:06.56Elsiareally I'm not saying anybody should use that addon besides me anyway ;)
15:07.33Elsiasame for range, some are happy to stare at the action bar for ranges.. I like large numbers ;)
15:07.36Xinhuangah 38th baron run, no mount yet
15:07.42Elsiagood luck
15:07.55Xinhuandid like 20 runs today so far
15:07.55Shot62 to go
15:08.12XinhuanShot, you know that's flawed :p
15:09.49Repo10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.2.0-beta1-17-g2f5605a / (5 files in 1 directory): [+12 commits] (8 truncated)
15:09.50Repo2f5605a: Fixed Show Grid option
15:09.50Elsiawonder if blizz will ever implement capped chance :P
15:09.51Repoff11807: Fix showing of the icon for special buttons
15:09.53Repo293e41b: Prevent taint in UpdateAction
15:09.57Repo170b825: Fix moving of actions
15:10.23KilrooHmm.
15:10.31doom0rffs, they should do it at least for recipes
15:10.44doom0ri've spent weeks on some that are fixed mob drops
15:11.24profalbertrepbot-recipe drops good
15:11.47profalbertthe only recipe I farmed ever
15:12.28doom0ri've farmed every azeroth chant/tail recipe, only missing 3
15:12.44doom0rrarest one in the game, and the emps ones
15:13.22Repo10proximo: 03ananhaid * r155 locals (2 files in 1 directory): Proximo:
15:13.23Repo- zhCN/zhTW update.
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15:20.42doom0rwoot, simple re-quest on another character worked
15:20.54Xinhuancos the trick to completing it
15:21.03Xinhuanis to do a daily quest within 24 hours of the prev one
15:21.10doom0rorly?
15:21.21Xinhuanor do 1 in the morning and 1 in the evening everyday, so you always have at least one daily done 12 hours apart
15:21.34doom0rya, i alternate back to back normally around the reset time
15:21.36Xinhuanblizz failed at implementing it
15:21.58Xinhuanand people have figured out
15:22.08KriLL3it's bugged in a couple of ways, I've had it reset on login/logout, reloadui, etc
15:22.12Xinhuanthat it resets to 0/5 if you don't do a daily within 24 hrs real time
15:22.15AnaralCan someone please help me with an SVN issue? I'm trying to use the SVN to update LilSparky's Skillet, but I keep getting PuTTY errors about needing authentication once it gets to updating the libs. I'm using the pubilc url but when I look at the properties all the libs have links to the svn+ssh
15:23.01XinhuanAnaral, you aren't suppose to update the libs
15:23.03profalbertAnaral: you cannot write to the public url
15:23.29AnaralI'm not trying to write to it, and I'm just trying to update via my SVN.
15:23.32Xinhuanthat is, if you checkout the addon with externals, dont' modify te externals
15:23.43AnaralI'm not trying to modify them.
15:23.52Xinhuanwhat address are u using
15:24.10Xinhuan@project skillet
15:24.11RepoXinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/skillet/. Skillet. Game: WoW. Leader: nogudnik. Updated: 13 days ago. Tickets: 8/17
15:24.12Anaralsvn://svn.wowace.com/wow/skillet/lilsparkys-clone/trunk
15:24.46Xinhuanwhat error are you getting
15:24.49Xinhuanaddress is correct
15:25.32AnaralThe window is PuTTY Fatal Error: Disconnected: No Supported authentication methods available.
15:25.36Xinhuani think i know the issue, the externals are set using svn+ssh://
15:25.43Xinhuanyou'll have to checkout without the externals
15:25.46AnaralThat is what I said.
15:25.51AnaralAll right.
15:26.27AnaralShould I inform Sparky or Nogudnik about the issue?
15:26.57Xinhuanya postit on sparky's thread
15:28.05doom0rsomeone rewrite bulkmail2, i'll clean your house or fix your car or something :)
15:28.23kenlyric_I thought about it
15:28.29kenlyric_but it's above my skill level
15:28.35doom0rit's so good, but it's bugged
15:28.38kenlyric_well, not rewrite, but maintain.
15:28.38Xinhuanwanna run my char until it gets baron mount? ;p
15:28.40kenlyric_it is?
15:28.42kenlyric_works for me
15:28.44doom0rsomething with the way it parents frames
15:28.59doom0ri end up wihtout being able to interact with the frames
15:29.07kenlyric_odd
15:29.16doom0rya, i think it's a lib issue tbh
15:29.34doom0ri have like 150 mods though, so i'm not so eager to make everything disembedded
15:29.38kenlyric_someone worked on it for the wowace->curse transition and then made an update for 3.0.2
15:29.41doom0rdisembedded*
15:29.56doom0rya, it's went from not working, to bugged for me
15:30.06doom0ri've even tried turning everything else off
15:30.11profalbertjust deacivate all other addons and only disembed this one
15:30.18doom0r^
15:30.42doom0ri'll try that
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15:30.52doom0rcurses sensible solutions
15:31.10kenlyric_it's hard to find people interested in bulkmail2. I'm shocked it's not used more widely
15:31.19doom0ri don't get that
15:31.34KriLL3I use it
15:31.39doom0rit makes the most sense out of any of them for the heavy bankers
15:31.52KriLL3but I got a bank alts set up prior to the cost cap for bag slots
15:31.58kenlyric_I'm not even a heavy banker
15:31.59doom0rrules list, nice long scrollable frames, checkable lines
15:32.03kenlyric_I just don't want to think about it
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15:32.25selckinstandard UI has the most needed functions now
15:32.36kenlyric_lockboxes to the rogue, greens to the DE, class reagents to the classes, etc.
15:32.37doom0rthat is a matter of opinion
15:32.45Xinhuanuseful as automailing stuff might be, it just isn't really a needed function
15:32.49KriLL3it doesn't auto send item x or item type y to recipient z
15:32.58kenlyric_everything else dumped to the bank alt, with no thought at all
15:33.47Xinhuani would hate to have a mod that automatically moves around my items, or auto mail them
15:34.00KriLL3why?
15:34.04Xinhuanbecause if i put an item in a location, i expect to find it there the next time i look there
15:34.09kenlyricI would hate to not
15:34.16doom0ri have it mail, and i use sanity to compress
15:34.17kenlyricwell it doesn't happen completely automatically
15:34.19kenlyricyou have to hit send
15:34.21doom0rbut i do not allow any autosorting
15:34.23KriLL3Xinhuan: you set what items/types you want to mail
15:34.26doom0rand as kenlyric says
15:34.35Xinhuanah
15:34.46Xinhuanso you still need to "approve" it
15:34.46Kilrooawesome
15:34.49doom0rand you can partially override so say you want to keep 1 specific thing but send your normal list
15:34.51KriLL3yes
15:35.07Xinhuanwhat kind of rules were settable?
15:35.14KriLL3a frame pops up next to the mail frame with a list of items and recipients
15:35.21KilrooI think I want to use oUF_Ammo's text settings. That should be fun.
15:35.22doom0rglobal, char specific, sink/non sink
15:35.30KriLL3include type or item, exclude type or item
15:35.43Xinhuanthat's kinda of vague-ish
15:35.44KriLL3so say send all potions to x, but not this potion
15:35.48Xinhuancan you be specific
15:36.01Xinhuangive real examples
15:36.05KriLL3I just did
15:36.08doom0rXinhuan: Global, sends from any char an item to whatever char is set
15:36.25doom0rchar specific: one char when on will send whatever item to whatever char
15:36.44doom0rsink: sends everything that you dont' want in your bags to that char (i.e. account wide dump)
15:37.07Xinhuan"sends everything that you dont' want" <-- how does it determine that?
15:37.15doom0riono, i don't use the sink options
15:37.25KriLL3as said, you make a filter
15:37.34kenlyricpt sets, item class sets
15:37.53Xinhuanso it uses a lot of libraries for these sets?
15:37.53KriLL3include item/item type (potion, food, cloth, ore/bar etc) or specific items, and exclude
15:37.57kenlyricor even item name
15:38.04doom0rperiodic table
15:38.19doom0ras kenlyric said: pt
15:38.26KriLL3for example I send all potions bellow my level to an alt
15:38.49KriLL3and all cloth to another alt
15:39.05KriLL3and all bars & motes/primals to another
15:39.07selckinsteal some bag addon's rules
15:39.24doom0rewww
15:39.26doom0rno way
15:39.29doom0rcustom rules
15:39.30Xinhuanhmm i don't think i like the idea then
15:39.39doom0rhow so?
15:39.45Xinhuanits usefulness is based on the maintenance of the PT library
15:39.51KriLL3O_o
15:39.58doom0rthat's never been an issue
15:40.00kenlyricjfc
15:40.01Xinhuanand the author would need to retag the addons that use the PT library on every PT library update
15:40.03KriLL3you can add individual items to the rules
15:40.13Xinhuanthat is a major turn off
15:40.15Xinhuanfor me
15:40.18kenlyricare you being purposefully obtuse?
15:40.19KriLL3it takes a split second
15:40.28Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys 04v1.1-beta8 * r172 : Tagging as v1.1-beta8
15:40.40Xinhuannot when you also need to upload your addons to other sites
15:40.40doom0rpt has been around for ages now
15:40.42kenlyricyou'll never like it, the end
15:40.50Xinhuanits not just wowace you know
15:40.51doom0rdoesn't closet gnome even use it?
15:40.55Xinhuanno
15:40.58Xinhuanclosetgnome doesn't use it
15:41.10doom0rhmm, one of teh outfit mods uses it
15:41.13Xinhuanthe core addon just allows you to make sets
15:41.21Xinhuanfrom your existing equipped gear
15:41.26Xinhuanthat's it,
15:41.39KriLL3so?
15:41.46nevcairieli think CG has a plugin that uses PT
15:41.58doom0rthat's probably more like it
15:42.06Xinhuanmy point is, i wouldn't write such an addon, because of the high maintenance required :)
15:42.17KriLL3nevcairiel: had, all plugins are dead except mount and it doesn't return to your last set
15:42.23doom0rdoesn't stop you from using it, unless you're afraid of becoming dependant on it ;x
15:42.30kenlyricitem types are not pt3 sets, as far as i know the game provides them
15:42.31nevcairielI have PT installed, although i have no idea which of my addons uses it
15:42.39KriLL3Xinhuan: it's really easy to add individual items to the rules
15:42.42Xinhuanyep but itemtypes as provided is too generic
15:43.01doom0rregardless, you don't have to use sets
15:43.08doom0ri set manually all things banked
15:43.38kenlyricyeah, you're determined to dislike it
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15:44.31Xinhuani have never liked PT, i don't know why
15:44.38Xinhuani just don't
15:44.49nevcairielits a big data collection addon, i try to avoid those in general
15:44.53kenlyricbut you don't have to use pt
15:44.59Xinhuanexactly, i don't
15:44.59doom0ri embrace those
15:45.06kenlyricyou can be as refined as you wish
15:45.32Xinhuani'm saying that as a consequence of not liking PT, my addons that i write, also won't use PT!
15:46.02doom0ri honestly could do without most of the stuff pt gives to it
15:46.05doom0rrather just about all
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15:46.15doom0rbecause i only use specific item ids for rules
15:46.18kenlyricitem types are honestly a lot better than in vanilla
15:46.37kenlyricthey are all but one of my rules now
15:46.39doom0ralthough now i'd like to try the typeing
15:46.58Xinhuanits still quite generic though, motes/primals for eg, fall under Trade Goods/Elemental
15:47.50Xinhuaneven though they should really be under Reagents
15:47.57KriLL3O_o
15:48.01Xinhuansince.. their only use is in reagents for making things
15:48.04KriLL3what makes you say that?
15:48.14KriLL3errm, elemental stuff was also
15:48.34KriLL3most trade goods are "reagents" by that logic
15:48.47Xinhuanexactly
15:48.54Xinhuanhence its all kind-of-generic
15:49.20doom0ryou could do PT set, tradeskill, mat, by type, primal
15:49.56Xinhuan"tradeskill" info comes from Pt btw
15:50.11doom0rya, that's kinda self explanatory ^
15:50.14doom0r;x
15:50.20doom0rjust saying
15:50.20Xinhuanrunecloth, for eg
15:50.27Xinhuanwould fall in almost every tradeskill
15:50.31doom0rit's an argument for using it
15:50.32KriLL3...
15:50.34KriLL3it's a type of cloth
15:50.42Xinhuanand yet every tradeskill uses it
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15:50.55KriLL3stuff isn't categorized by what you use it for, it's categorized by what it is
15:50.57Xinhuanso if you were to classify by say "Tailoring", are you saying runecloth shouldn't be in it?
15:51.45kenlyriclockboxes are my only pt rule , because i can't figure out  what itemtype they woud be.
15:52.22kenlyricwhy would you want to send motes and not primals?
15:53.08doom0rbanking strategy, and specific tradeskill use of one and not the other
15:53.54kenlyricwish there was text filtering
15:54.16kenlyricthat would work for motes and lockboxes
15:55.16kenlyrici find some item sets confusing in arkinv
15:55.53doom0ri find arkinv confusing
15:56.03doom0rbut i do find some categories in tbag a lil confusing also
15:56.14kenlyrici have  32 groups :)
15:56.22KriLL3o_O
15:56.42XinhuanOCD
15:56.49kenlyricno
15:56.51doom0rwhat about it?
15:56.51kenlyriclazy
15:56.55Xinhuani'll say that's overreliance
15:57.05kenlyrici don't want to look for things
15:57.10doom0rthere's a difference between that and control
15:57.30Xinhuanyou'll probably end up looking for the category you want
15:57.31Xinhuanlol
15:57.37Repo10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Moncai * r113 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: Fix:
15:57.38RepoTicket 1 - Overmaster Pyron translation lost - esES
15:57.48kenlyricjust once
15:58.05KriLL3I'm using combutor, I got tabs for all, equipment, consumables, quest, tradegoods, misc
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15:58.14Szkitahttp://harmegiddo.myminicity.com
15:58.47doom0rthat just happened
15:59.08Xinhuanthe way i've set up my mods, i am capable of playing from any computer without any mods
15:59.21kenlyricso am i
15:59.21KriLL3I'm not
15:59.33Xinhuanthat is, i don't need bag mods, bar mods, unitframes, etc
15:59.52KriLL3well I'm a druid
15:59.58kenlyricclap clap
16:00.10KriLL3and I only play wow on one PC
16:00.17Elsiahealing without good unit frames is harsh... possible but harsh
16:00.24KriLL3I'm not a healer
16:00.25Xinhuanwhat i'm saying is, i won't be handicapped if i play from other places ;p
16:00.28kenlyriccan and want are two different things
16:00.58kenlyrichow would anyone be handicAped without a bag mod
16:01.13doom0rmasochist
16:01.15kenlyricalso, what dps or tanking class are you?
16:01.38Xinhuani'm a mage
16:01.51kenlyricdefault ui  is a handicap for healers
16:01.55Xinhuani can decurse both with and without clique
16:02.11KriLL3it's horrible for ferals since we don't have a mana bar while in forms in the default UI
16:02.15doom0ri don't use clique
16:02.26doom0ri can't stand click casting
16:02.39Repo10cartographer: 03Moncai * r2276 .pkgmeta: Fix: Translation problem with esES client
16:02.55kenlyricyou click target don't you?
16:03.02KriLL3and the default unit frames are damn small
16:03.07doom0rdepends
16:03.16kenlyricclick casting saves a step and time
16:03.26doom0ri tab cycle sometimes and tar directly also
16:03.36kenlyrictab for healing?
16:03.44doom0rin some situations yes
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16:03.48kenlyricthat's a new one for me
16:03.51KriLL3kenlyric: if it's a shaman...
16:03.58kenlyricmaybe av
16:03.58doom0rever solo heal emps raid? (read: not tanks)
16:04.16KriLL3they don't need to target the actual person they want to heal with that stream thing
16:04.25nevcairielemps?
16:04.33doom0ryes
16:04.39nevcairielwtf is emps?
16:04.43Megalonaq40
16:04.45Megalontwin emps
16:04.52nevcairielwho cares about those o.O
16:04.58Fastiamps
16:05.03doom0rno one said you had to
16:05.06kenlyricstill, you hit tab then your heal, that's two actions
16:05.08doom0ran example is an example
16:05.26nevcairieldo you at least talk about emps on lvl 60 and not easy-mode 70?
16:05.42nevcairielbecause if its 70, the example is flawed
16:05.43doom0ri've never been to aq40 past 60
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16:06.24KriLL3people in those re-colored pala sets from invasion look stupid XD
16:06.39KriLL3rogue with a pale blue skirt ftw
16:06.39Xinhuani had this pala in my guild
16:06.41Xinhuanwear it
16:06.50Xinhuanthen stand behind the 3 stooges from AD in front of the tent
16:06.53Xinhuanin ironforge
16:07.02Xinhuanlooks pretty likepart of AD lol
16:08.03Fastitime to backup this 75k amount of files before updating it to wotlk :)
16:09.26Shoti quite liked my druid in the cloth set
16:09.45Groktardhuggles Shot
16:10.00Shotthe leather shoulders are a bit poo though
16:10.09Shoti'm running around collecting some feral gear now
16:10.22nevcairielthe whole set is totally weak
16:10.27Shotjust about hit 1k SP on my druid, and i'm abandoning it to tank for my guild while we level
16:10.45KriLL3why not just get S2 gear?
16:11.17Shoti didn't way i was using them - i just said they looked poo
16:11.29Shotbought them because i had about 300 spare runes
16:12.07asmodaiI was helping my guildies, healing them, I was a level 60-62 back then. Got 3 pieces of the gear due to a drop and enough runes to buy whatever I needed :)
16:12.29Repo10scorchio2: 03ennuilg * r2 / (6 files in 2 directories): - Inital alpha import.
16:16.01*** join/#wowace Ghan (n=GhanIRC@ppp-62-216-213-25.dynamic.mnet-online.de)
16:17.19Fasti"it contains both the Mac and the Windows EU installer." ah that's why it's like doubtle the size?
16:17.29nevcairielthe installer itself isnt that big
16:17.37KriLL3...
16:17.46KriLL3the installer is tiny compared to the resources
16:18.06KriLL3you don't need 2x of everything
16:18.30robotuschIt also has install files for 4 languages
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16:18.52doom0rya, it's like diablo, they just hack the image to have the mpq's show on both the windows and the mac filesets
16:19.22doom0rrather, the toc
16:19.27KriLL3robotusch: is any of the voicework dubbed?
16:19.30KriLL3or is it just text?
16:19.41Repo10broker_speed: 03break19 * r10 core.lua: Updated to use GetUnitSpeed and minor code cleanup
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16:23.36break19uh.. svn noobish question.. to create a tag, I first have to create a 1.0 folder in the tags directory, correct?
16:23.40break19or..
16:23.48break19*pulls hair out*
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16:24.10doom0roo, pull mine out, i hate shaving
16:24.22break19*pulls doom0r's hair out*
16:24.29doom0rwoot
16:24.45pb_ee1Hey people of Wowace, which 3.0 lib should i use if i want to create dewdroplib type menus?
16:24.56asmodaibreak19: from trunk?
16:25.06asmodaisvn copy trunk tags/name-1.0
16:25.34break19asmodai: well ya.. ok.. duh. makes sense
16:25.45break19*hangs his head in shame*
16:26.07Repo10broker_speed: 03break19 04v1.0 * r11 : tagging as 1.0
16:26.57break19meh forgot tocness
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16:29.10Repo10broker_speed: 03break19 * r12 Broker_Speed.toc: tic TOC toe
16:30.16Repo10broker_speed: 03break19 04v1.1 * r13 : Version 1.1 -
16:30.16Repo- Bugfix to 1.0 (missed toc update)
16:30.27break19there
16:30.53break19unless/until bliz breaks it, it will -always- report the correct speeds now
16:30.53*** part/#wowace profalbert (n=profalbe@91-113-28-122.adsl.highway.telekom.at)
16:31.19break19no more "ugh, new zone, lemme find out the defaults there" crap.
16:31.48break19no more having to -guess- at your current speed... now it's 100% accurate.
16:32.10break19Kemayo: you're welcome, btw.. :p
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16:35.24Lexbreak19: what'd you do to make it so 100% accurate?
16:35.53break19lex: used the api provided by bliz in 3.0
16:36.01[SW]Dodge_[17:18] Repo: broker_speed: break19 * r10 core.lua: Updated to use GetUnitSpeed and minor code cleanup
16:36.03[SW]Dodge_:-)
16:36.17Lexoh, thanks Dodge.  i just didn't read.  :x
16:36.22break19[SW]Dodge_: thnx :)
16:37.07Lexheh, GetUnitSpeed!  that's pretty simple.
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16:37.38break19techinically, that addon still falls under the default "wowaceSVN" user.. but, in theory, it should work until no one plays wow anymore.. unless bliz breaks the function. :p
16:38.12Lexhooray!  now, did they bring back GetUnitFacing?
16:38.30Lexor UnitFacing?  or whatever the function was called.
16:38.48break19shrug
16:39.50break19the reason I even knew about the API.. I saw a new speed addon that claimed (100% accurate, at all times) and went "uhh, how" so I downloaded it, and perused the code..
16:40.19Lexoh, haha.
16:40.42Lexheh, returns 0 while falling vertically.  oh well.
16:40.57break19.. "hmm, lets see... getunitspeed("player") *scrolls up* did I miss that function? *lightbulb* it's a new bliz fucntion! woot!"
16:41.04break19lex" IsFalling() :)
16:41.10Lexyeah, but
16:41.22Xinhuanbreak19, its not really that accurate
16:41.25Lexthe speed indicator is wrong when falling
16:41.42Xinhuanfirst the speed indicator gives your true speed in 3d
16:41.52Xinhuanbut we know your speed is constant at the x-y plane when on the ground
16:42.02Xinhuanie the speed isn't quite what you expect
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16:42.19break19Xinhuan: yea, well..
16:42.31Xinhuan2ndly, it doesn't return a valid value while IsFalling() is true
16:42.52Xinhuan3rdly, you can't tell your speed on zeppelins/ships
16:43.01Xinhuannot sure on flightpaths
16:43.20Xinhuanso on the overall, it isn't really that useful
16:43.26Stanzillahttp://pics.nase-bohren.de/mtv_cribs.jpg
16:43.39Xinhuanalthough you can use it in conjuction with the traditional getPlayermapposition method
16:43.54Xinhuanto figure out the slope (angle) of the slope you are running on
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16:44.39Lexwell, your 2D speed doesn't change while you're running on slopes, and your true 3D speed increases while doing so
16:46.18Lexanyway, this thing is useful in that it returns the real movement speed variable used in unit motion code, at least.
16:47.11Xinhuanya
16:47.28Xinhuanbut from a "speedfu" pointof view, knowing the true speed isn't as useful as knowing that you are riding at 100% speed
16:47.30Lexi'm betting falling is just a loop that sets your position based on how long the loop has been running and where you started.
16:47.38Lexso it doesn't actually use a speed value.
16:48.05Xinhuanit probably is, basically, GetUnitSpeed and GetUnitPitch both return invalid results during anytime the physics engine takes over your character, and also when you sit down
16:48.13Xinhuanwe tested this stuff yesterday
16:48.59Xinhuanand the fact that it doesn't work when on a transport.. well just sucks ;p
16:50.05Xinhuanhowvere, getunitspeed does work in an instance
16:50.08Xinhuanunlike the map method
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16:54.45Fisker-slaps Xinhuan around a bit with a large trout
16:56.52break19Xinhuan: enlightening.. now, unless you want to put those ideas of yours to good use, hush up, and enjoy the fact that broker_speed is no longer showing 77% movement speed in sw :p
16:57.02Xinhuan;p
16:57.21Xinhuani hardly need a mod to tell me i'm running at 100% speed on my mount :D
16:57.42break19true.. but some of us are information junkies.
16:57.45Xinhuanbecause well.. its going to be 100% ;p
16:58.06break19unless ya have speed bonuses :p
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16:58.15Xinhuanand the speed bonuses are known
16:58.21Xinhuanboars 8%
16:58.24Xinhuanpally 20%
16:58.39break19my rogue 8% :)
16:59.04Megalonretri 15% :P
16:59.06ShadowedXinhuan likes to tell children theres no santa
16:59.18break19Shadowed: there's not? :(
17:00.00break19I was hoping he'd bring me a 60" widescreen, with vga inputs, so I can play wow on it.. :(
17:00.27Fastiwhat's my speed with arena mount+pallybuff?
17:00.47break19Fasti: plaid
17:00.50doom0rShadowed: i knew that when i was 3
17:00.54doom0rmy grandparents told me
17:01.52break19lol. that just gave me an idea. gonna mod my standalone broker_speed to say "Plaid" if speed is over 240%
17:02.09Fastiplaid?!
17:02.35break19It's Spaceball 1.. They've gone plaid!
17:02.48asmodairofl
17:02.58FastiPlaid may refer to:. Plaid (pattern), a cross-hatched dyeing pattern often used for wool clothing and distinctly Gaelic
17:03.30break19fastI: Spaceballs: The Movie - rent it. go now. before it's too late.
17:03.41Fastino
17:03.46LexPlaid (band), an awesome IDM duo
17:04.18nevcairiel~dict plaid
17:04.31nevcairielhm how do i switch to the others
17:04.36nevcairiel~help dict
17:04.42nevcairiel~dict 1 plaid
17:04.45Lexhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plaid_(band)
17:04.50nevcairiel~dict 3 plaid
17:04.59nevcairiel~dict 4 plaid
17:05.07nevcairielhm nothing good
17:05.57break19http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP6DXoNKITc
17:06.15Lexlol
17:08.14Repo10better-inbox: 03Ammo * r80 / (2 files in 1 directory):
17:08.16Repostore the dropdown selection in saved vars to persist through sessions
17:09.14Repo10better-inbox: 03Ammo * r81 / (2 files in 1 directory): add AceDB-3.0 to pkgmeta and libs
17:14.32Groktardpounces
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17:18.20doom0rThank your for pressing the self-destruct button. This ship will self-destruct in 3 minutes.
17:19.59GnarfozZeksie: why is it that Utopia does very little besides erroring for me? :<
17:20.21Zeksiebecause you don't tell me what the errors are, and so they don't get fixed?
17:20.25Gnarfozheh
17:20.25Gnarfoz;)
17:20.38GnarfozI reported them long ago here, but there's been 20 builds sinds then
17:20.40Zeksiei get no errors atm.. at all
17:20.53Zeksieremind me
17:21.16GnarfozZeksie: http://ace.pastey.net/101292
17:22.18Zeksiebackdrop one is my bad. fixing now. won't error if you have background enabled
17:22.54GnarfozZeksie: there's more: http://ace.pastey.net/101293
17:23.51Zeksietry enabling backdrop for me, then reloadui and see if you get any errors at all?
17:24.18Kilroo...What is the focus unit frame FOR, anyhow?
17:24.22Gnarfozyeah, will do
17:24.30Gnarfozfor focussing a unit.
17:24.38ZeksieKilroo: so you can monitor another unit other than your target
17:24.42Zeksiesheep one, focus it, dps another.
17:24.46Zeksieand keep eye on sheep
17:24.47KilrooAh.
17:25.39KilrooSo, as a rogue, chances are the only way I would use the focus frame would be if say...I rigged it so that I focus a unit when I sap it?
17:26.03cladhairewell
17:26.09cladhairethat's a simple macro
17:26.23ZeksieKilroo yeah
17:26.44GnarfozZeksie: w/ background enabled + reload: http://ace.pastey.net/101296
17:27.05ZeksieGnarfoz: that error can't happen imo... if you unzipped correctly
17:27.13Zeksielooks like engine.lua is missing
17:27.19Kilroommmkay.
17:27.19GnarfozZeksie: that's what I was going to say: it seems I'm missing stuff.
17:27.30GnarfozZeksie: unzipped the zip from wowace, nothing more ^^
17:27.40Zeksiego an inspect it for yourself ;)
17:28.39Gnarfozthe file is there. ;)
17:29.15Zeksiedoes it have stuff in it.. like those claimed missing funcs ;)
17:29.30Zeksieshould have a Revision: 31 at top of file too
17:30.01Gnarfozyes, it has that.
17:30.31Gnarfozalso has function engine:ScanRoster() on line 274
17:30.40Zeksieyup. as i expect..
17:30.55Zeksieerm.. is the public var 'Utopia' there? /dump it
17:30.58Zeksiealso UtopiaDebuffActivity
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17:31.34Zeksiesure you're not missing some other startup error? or something like this..
17:33.28Kilroocool. I think all I really have left to do to my modification of oUF_Caellian is deciding whether to change the buff/debuff layout slightly or not, possibly a touch of resizing, and positioning. And possibly adding a few lines to support the mouseover frame.
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17:36.12GnarfozUtopiaDebuffActivity is there, Utopia is also there. ;)
17:37.47Gnarfoz@ Zeksie
17:38.28Repo10auction-profit: 03kunda * r41 / (9 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 8 lines)
17:38.29RepoAuctionProfit:
17:38.30Repo- new: added options
17:38.31Repo- ALL options RESET to DEFAULT!
17:38.35Repo- default settings changed: MOST FEATURES are DISABLED by DEFAULT now!
17:38.55ZeksieGnarfoz: don't see how it can be not loading those funcs.. :|
17:39.15GnarfozZeksie: seems you're relying on something in your copy that's not in the zip, or something?
17:39.48Zeksiedoubt it.. pretty sure i'd have had more bug reports than just yours if that was the case.
17:40.09Zeksiedownloading the zip atm to see for myself
17:40.18Zeksier31 ?
17:40.42Gnarfozr33
17:40.55Gnarfozwas the same on r31 and even r22 ^^
17:41.30Gnarfoz11/9 18:41:16.541  ** Loading table of contents Interface\AddOns\Utopia\Utopia.toc
17:41.33Gnarfoz11/9 18:41:16.541  (null)
17:41.34Gnarfozfrom FrameXML.log
17:42.45Zeksienull what?
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17:43.44Zeksiezip contents look fine to me. no difference in any files, except the toc with packager version.
17:43.51Repo10nobility-console: 03ciscoh * r64 GuildManagementTools (118 files in 42 directories): added/tested db versioning
17:43.52Reponext steps:
17:43.52Repoimplement comms
17:43.56Repotest network db updates
17:45.12Repo10nobility-console: 03ciscoh 04beta0.0.0020 * r65 : db versioning added/tested
17:45.12Reponext steps: add comms and test network updates
17:46.07Zeksieit's creating the frame (UtopiaDebuffActivity).. so I really don't see how it can't be getting further.. unless something else you have is futzing with basic wow functions.. like CreateFrame() or something else at the core ?
17:48.13GnarfozI seriously doubt that
17:48.14Gnarfoz:D
17:48.18Gnarfozbut I'll check on a clean char later
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17:49.03Zeksiewell. if you look at the code, there's really no way that if that frame is created, that the Start and other functions cannot also be created... it's ... just not possible ;)
17:49.06Slaymanhai guys
17:49.30Slaymancan anyone give me a fast an dirty way to get an Itemlink, i have the ItemID
17:49.51pastamancerGetItemInfo?
17:50.18Slaymanin the form of /run GetItemInfo(12345);
17:50.19Slayman?
17:50.20GnarfozZeksie: well :O
17:50.33GnarfozZeksie: I haven't a clue :\
17:51.02pastamancerSlayman: look up that function on wowwiki
17:51.14pastamancerand look up how item links are made
17:51.19pastamancerthen put the two together
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17:51.44Slaymanpastamancer: so no quick'n'dirty huh?
17:52.10pastamancerthat's as quick and dirty as it gets
17:52.22pastamanceryou should be able to fit all the code you need into a macro though
17:52.36pastamancerand then just edit it to change the itemid
17:52.52pastamanceror look it up on wowhead
17:52.56Slaymanpastamancer: i see that only returns item from cache, therefore i have Ludwig
17:53.06Slaymani need an item not yet in my cache
17:53.43pastamancerah, I don't know what function does that
17:54.22Slaymanpastamancer: not to worry thank you anyway!
17:54.34pastamancerif you look at atlasloot, it does that
17:54.44pastamancerbut wowhead gives you links you can copy/paste into wow
17:54.52Slaymanthere it is!
17:54.57Slayman../script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Shift-click this to place a link into a chat message: \124cffa335ee\124Hitem:23542:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\124h[Fel Edged Battleaxe]\124h\124r");
17:55.08fewynpastamancer: Allakhazam does it too!
17:55.21fewyni think thott does too
17:56.06doom0rindeed it does
17:57.05pastamancerwell, I guess none of the database sites differentiate on features
17:57.11Belazorcourse noone likes thottbot
17:57.21doom0ractually, i use it a bit
17:57.26fewynWell they are owned by the same company pastamancer
17:57.32Slaymanno one does like it?
17:57.34fewynThey are all part of the Zam Network
17:57.45Slaymani use it fairly often still
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18:03.21BrunersGetSpellInfo(19878) would give me the name of the spell no matter what localization ?
18:03.52nevcairielyeah
18:04.00nevcairielit always gives you the spell name in the current locale
18:06.03Xinhuan"Track Demons", "", "Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Shadow_SummonFelHunter", 0, false, 0, 0, 0, 0
18:06.06Xinhuanin enUS ;p
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18:07.31SlaymanXinhuan: thank you for BankItems, NICE AddOn
18:07.44Xinhuan:)
18:11.22Repo10ag_pimpster: 03kagaro * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): ag_Pimpster: initial commit
18:11.38break19*blink*
18:11.48Xinhuankeep blinking
18:11.54break19kagaro: wtf?
18:11.57Xinhuan451 mana per blink
18:11.58Xinhuan:)
18:12.00kagarocustome layout for ag
18:12.01break19lol
18:12.05break19ah
18:12.09Stanzillaawesome layout for ag!
18:12.12kagaroits gives you pitbull flexability
18:12.21break19<- uses GlassUF
18:12.21kagarofor agUF
18:13.00AeyanGood times
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18:14.39Mezir|SemiAFKsup
18:14.48AeyanMorning
18:14.50Mezir|SemiAFKis there a way to load new addons without restarting wow?
18:14.54nevcairielno
18:15.01Mezir|SemiAFKk thx
18:15.08nevcairielif you install a new addon, you need to restart wow, or it doesnt know about the new files
18:15.32Mezir|SemiAFKi know that but i think there was something like a reload option
18:16.43Mezir|SemiAFKwell, anyway thx a lot
18:16.43nevcairielif an addon only updated, you can do /console reloadui, however that still does not find *new* files, that didnt exist on start
18:16.43Mezir|SemiAFKk explains it
18:16.43jbwI still need to pick a UF addon...  have a feeling that is going to be 'fun'
18:16.54AeyanPlenty to choose from
18:16.58ramozoUF_Parzael or something is sexy
18:17.39jbwyeah, that is part of the problem....   too many option to really try them all
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18:23.55Repo10ag_pimpster: 03kagaro * r3 ag_Pimpster.toc: ag_Pimpster: toc update
18:27.35Matrix110@project ag_pimpster
18:27.35RepoMatrix110: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ag_pimpster/. ag_Pimpster. Game: WoW. Leader: kagaro. Updated: 3 minutes ago
18:28.52break19jbw: you still using default unitframes?
18:29.03jbwyep
18:29.22break19might I suggest, then, trying GlassUnitFrames. it uses the defaults, and pretties em up somewhat
18:29.58Matrix110ag_unitframes ftw!
18:30.16break19i discovered em a while back, and kept my eye on em, to allow them to reach a "stable" point.. and I've been using em for about 4 days now..
18:30.59jbwwill look into them,  I pretty much deleted all my mods when 3.0.2 came out and have slowly been adding things back....  
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18:31.16I440rdoes anyone here know the author of the Forte addon?
18:31.16break19it doesnt have it's own buff display, or castbars, or text displays, but instead uses blizzard's stuff.. pretty nice, and light too
18:32.15break19jbw: nice thing is, any other addons that modify the bliz unitframes, work with this one, since, in effect, it -is- the bliz unit frames. just doesnt look like em. :)
18:32.43jbwsounds good...   will have to give it a go
18:33.03I440rhow can i get in contact with the author of the forte addon?
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18:33.12doom0rprobably from their site
18:33.23I440rwhat is "their site" i cant find a site dedicated to it
18:33.50doom0rhttp://www.fortegaming.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=31
18:34.06doom0rlinks always in the wowi description
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18:35.28I440ri cant see any email addresses :(
18:35.47Brunersthe /use and /cast is the same for all locals?
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18:36.20jbwdoes anyone know of anyplaces that offer free but private svn repos?
18:36.22doom0rregister and pm?
18:36.50break19jbw: googlecode?
18:37.02jbwpretty sure they are public
18:37.26break19you can set it so only you can contribute to it..
18:38.39jbwyes,  but I was looking for something only I can check things out of as well, I want to much about with some things but still revision control it and not clutter anything public with it
18:39.00break19install svn on your own computer then?
18:39.23jbwyep, that one option.  and what I may wind  up doing.. ..  
18:40.06KilrooUnfuddle?
18:40.20doom0rinstall svn on another box on at home ;x
18:41.09break19doom0r: copycat
18:41.27doom0rnonsense
18:41.45break19doom0r: sense. "another box at home" is still "your computer" is it not?
18:41.54doom0rnot necessarily
18:42.05break19then you shouldnt be installing anything on it.
18:42.57doom0rdoesn't have to be "your" computer for you to have permission, rights, to install/admin. secondly, "your computer" usually refers to the machien you work from
18:42.59break19and in the case of -my- computers. no one else will be. :)
18:43.04jbwah, could install it on a rented computer also,  or the same computer.. anyway... lol
18:44.56jbwheckl, or even a virutal machines.. looks like you can get one of those from a hosting providor pretty cheap these days...   did not realize they had come down in price so much
18:45.53break19I used to have a nix shell account (it was netbsd actually) on my old dialup provider..
18:46.17jbwah, yeah, my main home box is a netbsd box
18:46.46break19I also had a static IP, and a custom dns for said IP.. and it was an extra 10/mo over the standard rate
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18:48.08I440rok so i registered and their stupid forums still havent sent me my password.  i need to talk to the guy that did this addon.
18:48.11break19my shell was a chroot.. and I had access to gcc + necessary libs...
18:48.58break19plus 20Meg of storage.. which, in the early 90s, was quite a bit.
18:49.04I440ror is there anyone in here who has written a warlock timer addon?
18:49.13I440ri have a feature request. ill change timer addon if i have to
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18:51.10Kilroosorry, I never really wanted to time a warlock.
18:51.45break19I440r: speak your request. If the great council deems you worthy, then we will listen.
18:51.55break19if not, then we'll kill ya. so.
18:51.58I440rwoot :)
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18:52.39nEternalhi
18:52.45break19lo
18:52.54I440rok. im affliction and ive tried a number of different warlock timers.
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18:53.15I440rit occurred to me that this whole "timer appears when dot is applied and disappears when it runs out" makes things more complex
18:53.15nEternalis there any lib documentation available for the ace plugins? All links I find redirect to wowace :(
18:53.53break19I440r: heh.. hang on, lemme see if I can find the name of the addon I'm thinking of.. sec
18:54.03I440rif i could have a config that says put "haunt, UA, Immolate, CoA, Corruption, siphon life" in a block and
18:54.04jbwyeah they need to l2redirect
18:54.08nEternalAce-Event .. etc.
18:54.14I440rthey were ALWAYS there when i was in combat it would simplify things
18:54.33doom0rwhether or not they're up?
18:54.35I440rwhen each of those timers times out the bar remains, it doesnt just disappear till i re apply the dot
18:54.36doom0ror only when they're up?
18:54.38I440rYES
18:54.59I440rthe timer would only show activity when the dot was active but the bar containing that dots timer would STAY there
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18:55.11doom0rthere is something like that
18:55.13doom0rhave to think
18:55.25jbwsounds like ReadySpell but in reverse, it just shows when the spell is ready again, not active
18:55.28fewyncan someone give me a quick list of ldb displays, i know fortress but i can't remember the other ones
18:55.42I440ralso. it would be neat if i could put a character to the left of each bar (say... the hot key that aoplpies that dot?)
18:55.43jbwI am using Button Bin as my ldb display
18:55.56I440ror maybe.  allowing me to click in the timer bar at any time for any dot to re apply that dot
18:56.36break19I440r: TimerButtons
18:56.48I440ris that 3.0 ready?
18:56.50break19@project TimerButtons
18:56.51Repobreak19: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/timerbuttons/. TimerButtons. Game: WoW. Leader: Misen. Updated: 21 hours ago
18:57.04I440rand does it keep all timers up at all times even when the dots are not active?
18:57.18break19I440r: click the link... read :p
18:57.52I440rok. THAT is what i was thinking of :)
18:58.01nEternalok next question
18:58.02break19fewyn: fortress, sbc, buttonbin, titanpanel, makerocketgonow
18:58.13fewyndanke
18:58.25I440ri think it will allow a greater raid awareness because i dont have to keep saying "oh shit. one ran out when i wasnt looking... which one is missing...." blah blah
18:58.34doom0ri remember looking at that
18:58.37break19I440r: heh
18:58.39doom0rthat ss makes my head hurt
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18:59.26nEternalI'm trying to commit to curseforge but it keeps complaining about svn:eol-style property which is not set
18:59.28Kilroofewyn: what break said, wraith, cargoShip, broker2fubar+fubar, carousel, and I think there's one more
18:59.31break19doom0r: yea.. that UI is. well.. cluttered, to put it nicely
18:59.50doom0rthe whole angle thing of the frames is what bothers me
19:00.03break19Kilroo: yea.. one that prints all the stuff out in chatframes, but I cant think of the name of it, atm
19:00.38Kilroobreak19: I think there's also a second one similar to carousel, but I could be wrong.
19:02.20break19Kilroo: Grep is the one I ws thinking of: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9527-Grep.html
19:02.55doom0rthat's disturbing
19:03.01Repo10xpgainnotify: 03xbeeps * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): Initial import
19:03.08doom0ralthough i'm sure it would have uses in determining some things
19:03.31break19doom0r: heh
19:03.39doom0respecially your own ldb object for checking it's update action
19:04.06break19afk a bit.
19:04.16doom0rthen you could just copy that somewhere and grep it
19:04.17doom0r;x
19:04.24Kilrooforgot one...quickie
19:04.24Brunerswith .pkgmeta externals specified, i should not include libs in my svn upload?
19:04.28Kilroosort of
19:05.00jbwlol, love it, have to add Grep to my to try list
19:06.07Repo10xpgainnotify: 03xbeeps * r3 : Ignore Libs directory
19:07.30jbwcould be comined with logging to provide  a way for users to get a file to send for debuggings things to I bet
19:10.38jbwshould be renamed stdout though.
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19:14.44doom0ri wonder if i can make 5k gold on picking herbs fast enough to justify buying my mage an epic mount first
19:15.16doom0rfinally put gathermate and routes to good use
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19:17.35break19doom0r: I've noticed some things about epic flyers + gathering.. sometimes the node doesnt show up until you've passed it.. or you slow down to see if it's there.
19:17.46break19but maybe it's just my slowass computer
19:18.24vithosi think it's more to do with blizzard's netcode than your computer
19:18.38robotuschit's even worse with crusader aura up ;D
19:19.20break19offtopic, somewhat.. i love my booterang macro. "#ShowIcon; #ShowTooltip; /use Booterang; /targetexact "Disobedient Dragonmaw Peon"
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19:20.27jbwhmm.. mine reverse the order, target then use, shrug
19:20.56vithoshaha, does that not change your current target?
19:21.18jbwyep..  but I want to target them first before I hit them
19:21.21break19jbw: yea.. but with the /use booterang first, you get the boot icon, plus the booterang tooltip.. -if- you are on the quest, otherwise it's a ?
19:21.52jbwyeah...   could ifx that I guess by specfing something to be the tooltip
19:21.54doom0rshowicon is redundant
19:22.32break19jbw: I dont want it fixed.. it helps my "sometimers" ass remember "hey, you're on the boot quest still" :P
19:23.14jbwoh..  ah,  I thought you did not want that behavior, in that case, I get the same results with them reversed icon wise
19:23.36break19oh, hm, k
19:23.48jbwthought that was why you did not use the other order
19:24.28break19i didnt use it, because I assumed it'd try to show a tooltip for the targetting part, not the boot.. tbh, I didn't try it the other way :p
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19:26.57break19vithos: but no. mine doesnt change the current target. :)
19:27.41vithosyou could even do /use [target=none] so it would still work if you had some random target
19:28.16vithosthat's pretty cool, i wonder what other things you could macro that way
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19:32.12vithoslol, /cast [target=none] Steady Shot; /targetexact Ironspine Petrifier works
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19:43.32sbAntiarc? :o
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19:49.08syerenIs the author of Cooldown Buttons around?
19:49.18syerenOr does anyone have any clue how to disable Reincarnation >_>
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19:52.31[SW]Dodge_Zeksie: ping
19:52.47Zeksie1 mo. doing a boss
19:52.53[SW]Dodge_ok
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19:54.33Nechcknlol... don't bother Zek... he's at work!  ;-)
19:54.59[SW]Dodge_:D
19:59.07syerenGoddamn someone needs to remove Incarnation from Cooldown BUttons.
19:59.10syerenOR teach me how to >_>
19:59.52[SW]Dodge_syeren: 1 second :)
20:00.24syeren*Reincarnation
20:00.26[SW]Dodge_hide a random spell, logout
20:01.06syerenYou're the author if I remember correctly?
20:01.17[SW]Dodge_open cooldownbuttons.lua in SV and rename the spell there to reinc
20:01.32[SW]Dodge_yea :S
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20:01.58[SW]Dodge_i currently dont have much time to work on it :(
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20:20.48Antiarcsb: You rang?
20:20.54sbyes
20:21.06sbaieee is broken :)
20:21.15sbtriggers on login
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20:23.14AntiarcOh, I saw that
20:23.16AntiarcI need to figure out why
20:23.22AntiarcOr what event to start recording on
20:23.47Gnarfozman
20:23.56GnarfozI'm getting some really bad performance in raids :O
20:24.05Gnarfozmust be some addon that's been patched up badly
20:24.06Gnarfoz:\
20:24.24Antiarcrofl
20:24.25Antiarchttp://www.google.com/search?q=aieeeeee!&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
20:24.27Antiarc#2 baby
20:25.55XinhuanAntiarc, now search "omen"
20:26.06Antiarchehe, yeah
20:26.15Xinhuan#1 AND #2
20:26.17AntiarcI remember when Omen the addon became more popular than Omen the movie
20:26.19AntiarcI was pretty :D about that
20:26.30Xinhuanand #7
20:26.33sbAntiarc: and it just triggered while running around in stranglethorn
20:26.34sbwtf :P
20:26.38Xinhuani keep it updated there
20:26.38Antiarco.0
20:26.41sb(err... riding around)
20:26.44AntiarcDid you fall for more than 2.7 sec?
20:26.46sbriding + jumping
20:26.50sbdont think so
20:26.58AntiarcIf you spam jump it can apparently trigger
20:27.10Xinhuanyes Antiarc, that's because IsFalling() is true
20:27.12AntiarcSince IsFalling() doesn't turn off unless you're on the ground for a little bit apparently
20:27.14Xinhuanit doesn't catch that split second
20:27.19Xinhuanyou hit the ground
20:27.31sbahh okay
20:27.32AntiarcI could hook the jump keybinding maybe
20:27.38AntiarcBut that seems excessive
20:27.46Xinhuanyou're gonna need a better detection method that onupdate checking IsFalling()
20:27.50Xinhuanthan*
20:28.07AntiarcIt's the lazy method and I'm lazy
20:28.10Zeksie[SW]Dodge_ wat was it btw?
20:28.19AntiarcI profiled it with OptionHouse and it's not bad at all on CPU
20:28.25AntiarcSo I don't see a whuge need to optimize it
20:28.50[SW]Dodge_Zeksie: got Message: ..\AddOns\Utopia\engine.lua line 560: attempt to index field 'debuffs' (a nil value)   <- also for lines 417, 456 and 486 while doing/trying Felmyst
20:28.51Xinhuanits not about the cpu performance, its about it nuding you when you dont' want it to ;p
20:29.20AntiarcDear god
20:29.29AntiarcCensusPlus's main file is 3800 lines
20:29.32Zeksiewere you switching targets a lot?
20:29.34Antiarc115kb
20:29.44[SW]Dodge_Zeksie: noüe
20:29.48[SW]Dodge_nope*
20:29.53Zeksiemmmm
20:30.08Xinhuanomen is 2812 lines
20:30.16AntiarcOmen is legitimately complex :P
20:30.22Xinhuannot really
20:30.26nevcairielomen has a sucky layout
20:30.26AntiarcAnd it's a lot of config code
20:30.28nevcairielall in one file
20:30.28Xinhuanonly about 800 of those lines are omen
20:30.29AntiarcWhich is a lot of short lines
20:30.39Xinhuanthe other 2000 lines are config tables and config functions
20:30.53Antiarchttp://pastey.net/101314 <-- wat
20:30.59Xinhuanoption tables start at line 1630 onwards to 2812
20:31.03Zeksie[SW]Dodge_ which version btw? recent?
20:31.11Xinhuanbut about half the functions before that are config change code ;p
20:31.11Zeksiehas to be. line nums match.. mmmm
20:31.33[SW]Dodge_Zeksie: i update dayli with CC (set to beta)
20:31.47[SW]Dodge_so it should be latest tagged as beta or release
20:32.36Xinhuanlol
20:32.40Xinhuanthat code is old
20:33.07Xinhuannevcairiel, omen might be all in 1 file, but its still a fairly structured file
20:33.10Xinhuan:)
20:33.15nevcairielits not
20:33.16AntiarcI tend to like separate pieces in separate files
20:33.17nevcairieli looked at it
20:33.20Antiarccore.lua, config.lua, etc
20:33.22nevcairielits evil
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20:33.26AntiarcJust for my sanity
20:33.41Xinhuanconfig is in 1 place, event handlers is in one place
20:33.50Xinhuanall the bar related code is in one place
20:33.58Zeksie[SW]Dodge_ mmmm. can't see why it would do that.. every mob created always has a debuffs table.. so... hmmm :|
20:33.58Xinhuanand the initialization is in one place
20:34.05Xinhuanit just looks messy to you
20:34.23Xinhuanbut similar functions are really placed together
20:34.27nevcairielso just strip it out in 3-4 files if its seperate anyway =P
20:34.27AntiarcROFL
20:34.29AntiarcI'll betcha
20:34.31AntiarcI'll just betcha
20:34.39AntiarcCensusPlus uses its minimap button as its event frame
20:34.45AntiarcWhich sexymap hides
20:34.52nevcairielhiden frames still get events
20:34.54XinhuanAntiarc, i said that yesterday
20:35.00Xinhuannevcairiel, it uses OnUpdate
20:35.09[SW]Dodge_Zeksie: dunno :D i got the errors multiple times in less than 30 sec
20:35.22Xinhuananyway, i can split it into multiple files, but the upvalues will be messy to update across multiple files
20:35.43Repo10dgks: 03leech 041.95 * r95 : Tagging as 1.95
20:35.49Zeksie[SW]Dodge_ what phase was it? might help to understand what was going on.
20:36.19[SW]Dodge_mom boss :S
20:36.29[SW]Dodge_but iirc first ^^
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20:36.53XinhuanAntiarc, it probably uses an onupdate to schedule the next /who event ;p
20:36.59Xinhuani'm guessing!
20:38.23Antiarchahah
20:38.25Antiarcwell, I found it
20:39.00Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r114 modules (3 files in 1 directory):
20:39.00Repofixed some more altnames stuff. my favorite was the bug that would changed the spelling of my own name from sylvaann to sylvan. Another shot at using AceTimer
20:39.28Xinhuannice sylvan :)
20:39.47sylvanaargmatch ftw!
20:39.58Xinhuanhow did gmatch fail there
20:40.17sylvanaarit was more the pattern failing
20:41.16sylvanaarargstr:gmatch('%s*(%S+)%s+(.+)')
20:41.37sylvanaarbecomes
20:41.40sylvanaarargstr = " "..argstr.." "
20:41.48sylvanaarargstr:gmatch('%s(%w+)%s+(%w+)%s')
20:42.10sylvanaarthat right there is what is so fail about lua patterns
20:42.18Xinhuani see
20:43.16Xinhuanwouldn't that fail on names with a - in it
20:43.23Xinhuancross bgs
20:43.28Xinhuanor is it just for user input slash command
20:43.35sylvanaarslash command
20:43.43sylvanaar"main alt"
20:44.02Xinhuanwhy even check for the start/trailing spaces
20:44.15Xinhuan"(%w+)%s+(%w+)" not good enough?
20:44.17sylvanaar"main alt main alt main alt:
20:44.28sylvanaarit takes that too
20:44.29Xinhuanwould still work wouldn't it?
20:44.37Xinhuan"(%w+)%s+(%w+)" that is
20:44.42sylvanaarno
20:44.53Xinhuanwhy not
20:45.03sylvanaarthat would match: (main, alt), (alt, main)...
20:45.17Xinhuanit shouldn't...
20:45.31sylvanaarluabot
20:45.36Xinhuanthe matching continues to start after the end of the prev match
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20:45.59sylvanaarthen how did it rename sylvaann -> sylvan
20:46.28sylvanaari guess the .+
20:46.30sylvanaarok
20:46.49sylvanaaridk, i still think we should ask luabot
20:46.58Xinhuanfor a, b in string.gmatch("abc def ghi jkl", "(%w+)%s+(%w+)") do print(a..b) end
20:47.01Xinhuanlua> for a, b in string.gmatch("abc def ghi jkl", "(%w+)%s+(%w+)") do print(a..b) end
20:47.01lua_botXinhuan: abcdef, ghijkl
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20:48.14sylvanaarlua> for a, b in string.gmatch("abc def ghi jkl mno pqr stu vwx", "(%w+)%s+(%w+)") do print(a..b) end
20:48.15lua_botsylvanaar: abcdef, ghijkl, mnopqr, stuvwx
20:48.51Xinhuando i win? ;p
20:49.05sylvanaari think so
20:49.29sylvanaarlua> for a, b in string.gmatch("abc def ghi jkl mno pqr stu vwx", "(%S+)%s+(%S+)") do print(a..b) end
20:49.29lua_botsylvanaar: abcdef, ghijkl, mnopqr, stuvwx
20:49.42sylvanaarlua> for a, b in string.gmatch("abc def ghi jkl mno pqr stu vwx", "(%S+)%s+(.+)") do print(a..b) end
20:49.42lua_botsylvanaar: abcdef ghi jkl mno pqr stu vwx
20:50.28sylvanaarlua> for a, b in string.gmatch("abc def ghi jkl mno pqr stu", "(%w+)%s+(%w)") do print(a..b) end
20:50.28lua_botsylvanaar: abcd, efg, hij, klm, nop, qrs
20:50.30Xinhuanthe .+ is matching spaces
20:50.34sylvanaarha
20:51.31sylvanaarok, thats why it was there - if you have uneven pairs
20:51.32Xinhuanlua> for a, b in string.gmatch("abc def ghi jkl mno pqr stu vwx", "(%S+)%s+(.+)") do print("|"..a..b.."|) end
20:51.33lua_botXinhuan: luabot:1: unfinished string near '<eof>'
20:51.38Xinhuanlua> for a, b in string.gmatch("abc def ghi jkl mno pqr stu vwx", "(%S+)%s+(.+)") do print("|"..a..b.."|") end
20:51.38lua_botXinhuan: |abcdef ghi jkl mno pqr stu vwx|
20:51.49Xinhuanlol it matched the whle string
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20:52.01sylvanaarlua> for a, b in string.gmatch("abc def ghi jkl mno pqr stu", "%s(%w+)%s+(%w+)") do print(a..b) end
20:52.02lua_botsylvanaar: defghi, jklmno, pqrstu
20:52.11sylvanaarlua> for a, b in string.gmatch("abc def ghi jkl mno pqr stu", "(%w+)%s+(%w+)") do print(a..b) end
20:52.12lua_botsylvanaar: abcdef, ghijkl, mnopqr
20:52.43sylvanaarlua> for a, b in string.gmatch(" abc def ghi jkl mno pqr stu ", " (%w+)%s+(%w+) ") do print(a..b) end
20:52.44lua_botsylvanaar: abcdef, jklmno
20:53.10Xinhuanas far as i know, string matching always continues after the end of the last match
20:53.15sylvanaarlua> for a, b in string.gmatch(" abc def ghi jkl mno pqr stu ", "%s(%w+)%s+(%w+)%s") do print(a..b) end
20:53.16lua_botsylvanaar: abcdef, jklmno
20:53.24sylvanaarso much fail
20:53.30Xinhuanthat's why the ghi is skipped, since the " " is matched as part of the previous match
20:53.38Xinhuanand it doesn't match the start of the next match
20:53.49dodgaeverytime I join a party I get "action failed because of an addon".. is there any way I can find out what addon is causing the problem?
20:53.53sylvanaarlua> for a, b in string.gmatch(" abc def ghi jkl mno pqr stu vwx ", "%s(%w+)%s+(%w+)%s") do print(a..b) end
20:53.53lua_botsylvanaar: abcdef, jklmno, stuvwx
20:54.09dodgawithout disabling/enablig addons of course :D
20:54.29asmodaiAntiarc: Thanks for your comments!
20:54.33doom0runinstall/install? =D
20:54.37dodga:P
20:55.01sbdodga: preorder??? :p
20:55.17dodgaprewtf?
20:55.26sb*sigh* :p
20:55.52Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r115 modules/AltNames.lua: xinhuans' fix to my gmatch pattern
20:56.53dodgaComplete sentences plox
20:57.04sbdid you preorder wotlk?
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20:57.13sbwith some midnight shopping
20:57.13dodgano, why should I? :D
20:57.22sbmhh... why not? ;)
20:57.29dodgaEither I get it from a friend that works at a video rental store
20:57.34Kilrooawesome...somehow I have killed my party frames.
20:57.39dodgaOr I'll got to Media Markt to the midnight sale
20:57.59dodgaOr I'll just grab a copy at release day as soon as the shops open :D
20:58.02sbdodga: MM vaihingen? :p
20:58.09dodgasb: Central station :>
20:58.12dodgacloser for me
20:58.14sbmhh... ok ;)
20:58.21dodgaYou goin to Vaihingen? :>
20:58.27sbyup
20:58.32dodgahehe
20:58.37sbgame stop
20:58.53Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar 04RC1 * r116 : oh noes
20:59.06dodgaWow, there's a game stop in Vaihingen?
20:59.29sbyup, schwabengalerie
20:59.31JaxonI don't remember, is [target=mouseover] valid for macro targets?
20:59.35Antiarc~seen roartindon
20:59.40purlroartindon <n=jtlim@cm32.delta200.maxonline.com.sg> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 252d 11h 24m 51s ago, saying: 'Because it receives one parameter sometimes, two parameters at others'.
21:00.09dodgaI see
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21:04.04dodgaOkay, how can I get an error in GuildControlGetRankName when no file in my addons directory contains that string? :D
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21:05.11sbupdate epgp :p
21:05.55dodganot using it :D
21:05.57dodganot even installed
21:06.17dodgaonly addons I updated in the last days were chatter, chinchilla, routes, opie, bartender and gridstatushots
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21:09.09asmodaiAntiarc: I think Rollie (author of censusplus) will listen to your advice, in the mean time I'll make sure to show the minimap button
21:09.26AntiarcIt's very easy
21:09.32Antiarclocal updateFrame = CreateFrame("Frame")
21:09.43AntiarcupdateFrame:SetScript("OnUpdate", CensusPlus_OnUpdate)
21:09.44AntiarcDone :D
21:11.00Groktardpounces Antiarc
21:11.13Repo10xpgainnotify: 03xbeeps 041.0 * r4 : Tagging as 1.0
21:11.45asmodaiAntiarc: let me add that to the forum topic. :)
21:11.48break19waits for Tekkub to make another addon to do something I didn't know I wanted to do until an addon does it for me.
21:11.55Antiarcgo for it
21:12.10Tekkubeh?
21:12.16break19Tekkub: kennel
21:12.27Tekkubah
21:12.32break19Tekkub: until I got it, I never cared if any of my minipets were summoned. :p
21:12.39Tekkub^^
21:13.22break19Tekkub: is there a /command to disable it until the next reload (or until I re-enabled?)
21:13.34Tekkubno
21:13.42break19I havent really bothered to peruse the code. I never need to, for your stuff, anyway. heh
21:14.46AntiarcIs there a working damage meter that's lighter than Recount?
21:14.49AntiarcOr do I have to write one?
21:15.05break19violation?
21:15.12Antiarcviolation's up to speed these days?
21:15.18break19been working for me.
21:15.26AntiarcI'll try it out
21:15.31AntiarcLast time I tried it it didn't do it for me
21:15.36break19@project violation
21:15.36Repobreak19: http://www.wowace.com/projects/violation/. Violation. Game: WoW. Leader: Rabbit. Author: Ammo. Updated: 7 days ago
21:16.44break19btw, if no one's heard me rave about it yet: I love these unitframes I discovered a while back...
21:16.51break19@project GlassUnitFrames
21:16.52Repobreak19: http://www.wowace.com/projects/glassunitframes/. GlassUnitFrames. Game: WoW. Leader: h3nrym2. Updated: 23 hours ago. Tickets: 2/2
21:17.07AntiarcHow customizable are they?
21:17.12break19barely
21:17.17Antiarcscreenshot?
21:17.23break19on the project page
21:17.28AntiarcNot too bad.
21:18.00JaxonThey are simple, but after I had them running for a while I realized  ididn't like the magnified look on the textures and the stupid way that the focus frame was handled differently from the rest of the frames pissed me off.
21:18.01break19yea. now to get him to add sharedmedia support :)
21:18.25AntiarcI'm tempted to write my own unit frames
21:18.28AntiarcJust for the hell of it
21:18.33AntiarcAnd because I've never done unit frames before
21:18.43AntiarcAnd because Pitbull is my last rock addon >_>
21:18.48break19Antiarc: go for it. not like there aren't a thousand different onese these days :)
21:19.10JaxonI got through the .lua file adding proper support for it, then got into his xml and realized he'd left that part entirely blank, which pissed me off some more.
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21:19.27break19jaxon, lol
21:20.13break19jaxon: what catches my attention, is the fact they are mostly configured using bliz's own settings.
21:20.31Jaxonbreak19: but they look horrible on a higher resolution
21:20.46break19Jaxon: maybe.. but I run at 1024x768
21:21.10Daemonanevcairiel is there a reason why bt4 is spacing the micromenu buttons since the last change?
21:21.13Jaxon1920*1200
21:21.21break19jax: must be nice
21:21.23Daemonaand Antiarc logging in and being naked is minorly embarassing ;)
21:21.26JaxonIt is.
21:21.34AntiarcI'll fix that >_>
21:21.43BrunersAntiarc: do your own layout with ouf? :P
21:21.56AntiarcWell, I kinda want something that's configurable in-game
21:22.05AntiarcI have this thing about uberconfigurability
21:22.17Brunersthen write in-game config for ouf!
21:22.28break19.. drool ..
21:22.35JaxonI think ag has a pretty simple in-game, nothing as convoluted as Pitbull
21:23.08BrunersAntiarc: what combat text addon do you use?
21:23.14AntiarcStock
21:23.32break19<- uses msbt
21:23.58sztanpet@project stock
21:23.58Reposztanpet: No project found that matches 'stock'
21:24.01sztanpet:(
21:24.05break19rofl
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21:26.01nevcairielDaemona: change the padding =P
21:26.14Daemonawhy did you change the default padding? ^^
21:26.38nevcairieli didnt
21:26.43nevcairieli rewrote the whole thing
21:27.31Xinhuanso Antiarc
21:27.45Xinhuani'm pretty interested in this new unitframe of yours, and i think we can work together ;p
21:27.50DaemonaI'll never understand software engineers... changing something to make it more configurable and then not making what the customer knows the default ;)
21:27.57AntiarcIf you want to do unit frames, Xinhuan, I'd love to do them with you
21:28.02Xinhuanwe've worked together before hehe
21:28.08AntiarcOnce or twice >_>
21:28.22nevcairielDaemona: its not a release yet, is it =P
21:28.25AntiarcI'm all for it. But I'm healing a heroic ATM
21:28.25Xinhuanhowever, i'm not sure what ideas you have in mind
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21:28.35Daemonaguess i need to stop pulling alphas ;)
21:28.45Antiarcsomething less restrictive than Pitbull, but still very configurable
21:28.45nevcairielthere are already so many UFs
21:28.50nevcairielwhy cant you just make a skin for one?
21:28.57Antiarcnevcairiel: Because I didn't write any of them!
21:29.01Daemonabecause he is the Anti-arc
21:29.04AntiarcAnd I have a bad case of Not Invented Here Syndrome
21:29.22nevcairielyou should see a doctor
21:29.30AntiarcSee, my response to "This doesn't do exactly what I want" is usually "Hm, I should write my own to do exactly what I want"
21:29.35nevcairieljust write a oUF Skin, its like writing your own UF
21:29.41nevcairieljust with a nice framework in your back
21:29.44Xinhuanso you said "less restrictive than Pitbull"
21:29.45AntiarcI wrote SexyMap because simpleMinimap didn't move the clock
21:29.52Xinhuanwhat was restrictive about pitbull?
21:30.40AntiarcIt's constrained to very rectangular layouts, and positioning is somewhat lacking
21:30.43AntiarcEspecially aura positioning
21:30.53JaxonAnd configs 9 levels deep were shitty
21:31.21nevcairielyou know that writing a full UF from scratch is a task thats not done in two days? :p
21:31.29AntiarcI'm sure it's not
21:31.35AntiarcBut who says it has to be done Tuesday? >_>
21:31.50AntiarcI mostly pick off easy projects, but now and then I enjoy meaty ones
21:32.13nevcairielUFs are one of the biggest addons, because you have to handle alot of stuff
21:32.23nevcairieland work your way through alot of blizzard templates
21:32.27XinhuanAntiarc, i envision a unitframe who's design elements is GUI-ey, with drag and drop elements and drag resizing controls ;p
21:32.33AntiarcYup
21:32.34AntiarcMe too
21:32.43nevcairielI would call it bloated
21:32.44nevcairiel:P
21:32.56AntiarcIf it runs fast, who cares? >_>
21:32.58Xinhuanactually i would too ;p
21:33.08Xinhuanbut that design addon can be LoD ;p
21:33.35nevcairielLike i said, write a oUF Skin, and all you have to do is that design addon
21:33.44nevcairielnot more!
21:33.53Xinhuanwhat i'm looking at, is a way to design that layout in game
21:34.10Xinhuani.e something the user can do, not something the user has to write an addon for
21:34.19AntiarcSame here
21:34.25AntiarcoUF is great for me
21:34.30AntiarcBut I want to make sexy things for others too
21:34.45Xinhuanthat is, if the user thinks the pvp icon is out of place by 2 pixels, he can drag it by 2 pixels in the design addon
21:34.55nevcairielyou can still feed whatever your design addon does to oUF
21:35.03Xinhuanyes, i suppose so
21:35.09AntiarcThing is, the oUF core isn't too complex
21:35.25nevcairielYou want to replicate it just because you dont see it as complex? :p
21:35.46Antiarcwell, if I'm writing a separate addon, why require oUF as part of the package? That just frustrates end users
21:35.55nevcairieljust package it
21:36.03Antiarcbut but but
21:36.05Antiarcnot invented here!
21:36.07break19Antiarc: Listen not these detractors! Verily I say, design your addon, good sir!
21:36.10break19heh
21:36.12nevcairielscrew you =P
21:36.24Antiarc<3
21:36.30nevcairielyoure like ckk
21:36.33AntiarcI mod to entertain myself :P
21:36.38AntiarcIt's what keeps me playing the game
21:36.39nevcairielothers maintain chatter for you now!
21:36.44Xinhuani am waiting for someone to write something to overthrow omen3 ;p
21:37.00AntiarcI sorta maintain chatter >_>
21:37.07AntiarcBut I make my projects open to the community intentionally!
21:37.07break19<3 chatter
21:37.27break19i miss my white chat tabs tho..
21:37.48XinhuanAntiarc, git isn't that open/friendly to the community though hahah
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21:37.54nevcairielI thought about just writing a very minimal UF for a while, but then i just fixed what was wrong with agUF for me, and it was fine
21:37.56AntiarcThe community needs to learn then! >_>
21:38.02Sarozgogo vhaarr
21:38.06Xinhuani think anaheid is the only translator that knows how to use it
21:38.16nevcairielIts good, though
21:38.17KilrooI'm working on an oUF layout myself.
21:38.20nevcairieli get translations in zip
21:38.21vhaarrSaroz: wut?
21:38.26nevcairieland no translaters screw it up
21:38.49Zeksiecan the AceGUI stuff be used wherever?  say i wanted to use a treegroup thing for example?
21:38.55Xinhuannevcairiel is correct at least, i've had some translators send in zips with "true" passed in to NewLocale()'s 3rd arg
21:38.55AntiarcI really like translators having commit access if they aren't stupid :V
21:39.07KilrooBasically I've taken Caellian, added ToToT, changed which units have portraits and where they go, resized a few things, and...well, that's really about it.
21:39.36nevcairielXinhuan: thats why i have a script that just parses and rebuilds the translation files :D
21:40.49nevcairielworked very good for me :)
21:40.51GnarfozXinhuan: what's that do?
21:41.05Xinhuanit tells acelocale to treat that locale as base
21:41.46KilrooI'm going to be mildly irritated if I have to start my game of telepath RPG 2 over because it wasn't clear which way I needed to walk from that one damn screen.
21:41.49Xinhuanthat is, use the keys in that locale as base (which doesn't actually break things since the keys are still english)
21:41.51StanzillaAntiarc: write a oUF layout with ingame options, that would be new :P
21:42.30nevcairiellook at Babelfish.lua in the Bartender4/locale dir, it scans all code files for L[".."] strings, parses existing translations, and completly rewrites the files
21:42.30Repo10simple-unit-frames: 03Pneumatus * r78 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Remove TextStatusBarTextSmall from the font options
21:42.31Repo- Add no-lib-strip to the toc
21:42.48nevcairieli just copy the file i got from a translator in
21:42.50nevcairielrun the script
21:42.52nevcairieland all is good
21:43.29Repo10cooldown-to-go: 03mitch0 * r78 / (5 files in 2 directories): added grace period, added some embeds
21:44.56KilrooI need to figure out for certain whether I can get mod_wombat and firebird SQL set up on my Jumpline account...
21:45.20Kilrooand a couple other things to go with them.
21:45.38Kilroosorry, non-sequitur there.
21:48.38mitchnullnev: hey, Babelfish.lua is the thing I was searching fro a week ago :)
21:49.12nevcairielit was originally written by cladhaire, but i extended its functionality somewhat to fit my needs
21:49.20Fisker-omg nevcairiel
21:49.24Fisker-the microbar
21:49.29mitchnullwill give it a try. luckily I didn't start my fixlocale.pl script yet :)
21:49.34Fisker-*blargh i'm ded*
21:52.28Antiarcnevcairiel: Does hotcandy track all spells you cast, or is it a preset list?
21:52.37nevcairielpreset list
21:52.39AntiarcBecause gheal shows in my trackable spells list and it's not a hot >_>
21:52.52nevcairielyeah because of the T2 set bonus that gave it a hot part
21:52.57AntiarcOhhh, okay.
21:52.59nevcairieli could probably remove that
21:53.03AntiarcYeah, likely :)
21:53.30Antiarcprayer of mending could be interesting, but probably useless
21:53.52XinhuanAntiarc, you said pitbull was "too rectangular", what were you thinking of ;p
21:53.53Xinhuanovals?
21:53.54Xinhuanlol
21:54.10AntiarcWell, just something that is more flexible than "rectangle and 9 attach points per object"
21:54.30Xinhuani'll be going overseas next 3 days
21:54.33Xinhuanso i won't be online
21:54.49Xinhuanthat means i have a good 72 hours to do nothing and think about it
21:54.58Gnarfozwhat could cause my chat settings to be greyed out ingame? (like choosing colors for chat channels or toggling them on and off)
21:55.06JaxonWhat addon would be adding a + and "100% threat" to my tooltip, I can't seemto narrow it down.
21:55.13XinhuanJaxon: default UI
21:55.17GnarfozJaxon: lol default ui ^^
21:55.22nevcairielAntiarc: I'm a druid, other classes only get spells when they tell me it might be nice =P
21:55.27Jaxonoh wow, must've been an updated to TipTac that exposed that then.
21:55.27JaxonThanks
21:55.34Antiarcnevcairiel: Well, ProM is sorta odd
21:55.38AntiarcSo I don't know how well you could track it
21:55.51nevcairieldoesnt it attribute it in combatlog now?
21:55.53Xinhuanjaxon, note also that that value
21:55.54nevcairielbut probably still weird
21:56.00Xinhuanis scaled to between 0-100%
21:56.03AntiarcIt does, but the mechanics are odd
21:56.09Xinhuanso it won't match what omen or ktm
21:56.09JaxonXinhuan: yeah, but I needed an example :D
21:56.14AntiarcYou cast it on someone, and the next time they take damage it heals them, then bounces to someone else
21:56.21AntiarcBut, it's a short-duration buff
21:56.26AntiarcCould be nice to see who it's on and how long it has though
21:56.34Xinhuansince omen/ktm is scaled in the old way, where pulling aggro is 110 or 130%, and not 100%
21:56.57JaxonXinhuan: do you know ofhand where to disable it?
21:56.58Antiarcthat's probably a job for a different mod, though, really
21:57.07Xinhuannot possible to disable it
21:57.09Xinhuanits the default UI
21:57.12Repo10grid-status-hots: 03Bogenlampe * r86 / (2 files in 1 directory):
21:57.12RepoAdded option to chose whether or not each stack of Lifebloom counts as 1 HoT towards Total of HoTs.
21:57.13Xinhuanit comes like that
21:57.19JaxonBlast.  Thanks
21:57.49Xinhuana tooltip addon could forcibly remove that line and move everything else up by one line
21:57.56Xinhuanbut it would be a huge cpu hog if it did that
21:58.24Repo10cooldown-to-go: 03mitch0 * r79 embeds.xml: fix embeds (missing LSM)
21:58.44asmodaieh
21:58.59asmodaitwo of my guildies just said they heard Orgrimmar music in Shatt and Nagrand
21:59.21Xinhuanheh
21:59.26Antiarcwhat's the awesome tooltip mod these days?
21:59.32AntiarcI'm using tinytip, but it's a build with broken config options
21:59.50StanzillaI heard there's a new addon coming called sexyTip
21:59.52XinhuanAntiarc, i'm going to go with "my own"
21:59.53Stanzillaheard about that, Antiarc?
22:00.02Repo10rep-watch: 03Seglberg * r43 / (4 files in 1 directory): RepWatch 2.1.16 Upload
22:00.02AntiarcWell, I'm just saying >_>
22:00.06Stanzilla:P
22:00.07AntiarcIf a good one doesn't exist I should make one
22:00.10AntiarcBecause those are easy
22:00.11Xinhuanall mine does is add "target" and "targettarget" info to the existing one
22:00.12StanzillaI use TipTac but I dont like it
22:00.17AntiarcAlso, I have the not invented here itch yet
22:00.18Xinhuancos that's all the extra info i want
22:00.19Repo10rep-watch: 03Seglberg 04Version 2.1.16 * r44 : Tagging as Version 2.1.16
22:00.19StanzillaI have to use it becaus cowtip eats my memory
22:00.32AntiarcI just really can't use DogTag naymore
22:00.36AntiarcIt chews way too much CPU :(
22:00.50Stanzillayup
22:00.56Xinhuanit chews CPU because it has this super huge OnUpdate that checks just about every damn possible tag to update
22:00.58Repo10cooldown-to-go: 03mitch0 * r80 CooldownToGo.toc: version bump, fix OptDeps
22:01.10Xinhuanand there's a thousand possible tags
22:01.19StanzillaI like the tag system alot
22:01.21Repo10rep-watch: 03Seglberg 04Release v. 2.1.16 * r45 : Tagging as Release v. 2.1.16
22:01.23Stanzillabut its cpu use..not so much
22:01.33AntiarcI think I'll just do an oUF addon first for my own use
22:01.37Xinhuanhalf of those tags
22:01.39AntiarcThen use that to get a feel for what I want
22:01.42Xinhuandon't have update events
22:01.42Repo10cooldown-to-go: 03mitch0 04v1.5 * r81 : Tagging v1.5
22:02.08AntiarcMan
22:02.11AntiarcInscription is like printing money
22:02.18AntiarcBuy a stack of peacebloom for 5g
22:02.19Xinhuanno JC is
22:02.21Xinhuan;p
22:02.23AntiarcSell the pigment from it for 30g
22:02.34break19anyone bored, and wanna critique my ui? :p
22:02.39break19http://i38.tinypic.com/fubzhi.jpg
22:02.58Xinhuanmore people will still be buying gems than glyphs
22:03.03Stanzillaif I remember correctly, Antiarc was the one that introduces me to dogtags because I loved his cowtip  config :P
22:03.22AntiarcCowTip does cool stuff
22:03.24AntiarcIt's just. Heavy.
22:03.35XinhuanStanzilla and during that time, dogtag didn't chew 1/3 the amount of cpu it now does
22:03.45ZhinjioAntiarc: I'd definiely be interested in what you do with unit frames.
22:03.45Stanzillamaybe
22:04.57TorhalStanzilla: Try TipTop?
22:05.13StanzillaI might
22:05.19Stanzillabut I just finished my tiptac config
22:05.25Stanzillaand hope I dont have to touch it again
22:05.33TorhalHeh
22:07.43Xinhuanbtw we're calling this unitframe FoxTerrier ;p
22:08.10Antiarcwhat
22:08.25AntiarcHow about "IveBeenFramed"
22:08.26Antiarc:V
22:08.27Xinhuanlol, it was a joke by one of my guildies
22:08.41Fisker-so Antiarc
22:08.43Fisker-i have you now
22:08.45Xinhuanhe once said "Xin, go write a FoxTerrier to replace PitBull"
22:08.54Xinhuanabout 1 year ago
22:09.05Xinhuanof course, i never did
22:09.29ramozwhat is
22:09.40ramozTipTop? another tinytip replacement?
22:11.40Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r28 commands.lua:
22:11.41Repodont take snapshot when not tracking loot, and don't spam when taking snapshots.
22:11.57AntiarcFisker-: wat
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22:21.42AntiarcMm. Not a fan of TipTac's options
22:21.48AntiarcNot as flexible as I'd like
22:22.20nevcairielI use TinyTip, doesnt have any options whatsoever, and i like it! :P
22:22.27AntiarcTinyTip has options :P
22:22.34nevcairielhardcoded in lua
22:22.46AntiarcThere's a TinyTipOptions addon
22:22.47AntiarcOr there was
22:23.17nevcairielwell i didnt install it
22:23.28nevcairielI dont usually move my tooltips
22:23.35nevcairielso its there, no config addon :)
22:23.53nevcairielI dont get people that want minimap buttons for their config, i mean how often do you reconfigure a addon
22:24.14nevcairielI do it once, then maybe a second time to tweak something i forgot in the initial pas
22:24.17nevcairiel*pass
22:24.18nevcairieland done :D
22:24.46Zhinjionevcairiel: I like having the button, but I usually hide it once my config is done. the newer broker displays are very good with that.
22:24.51SunTsuAntiarc: Looks like SexyMap has problems with button visibility
22:25.06AntiarcSunTsu: That's too specific for me, can you be more vague please?
22:25.12Antiarc:P
22:25.18SunTsuAntiarc: I was about to explain what I mean
22:25.58asmodaiSpeaking of buttons and SexyMap, some buttons will allow themselves get dragged and then never stop being dragged XD
22:26.11Fisker-Antiarc you don't lose durabillity in bg's
22:26.17SunTsuAntiarc: The clock for instance vanishes from time to time and only shows while hovering even when set to always show
22:26.31SunTsuFisker-: You do, but not from death
22:26.53Fisker-which would be implied if you knew the whole discussion
22:27.54AntiarcFisker-: I'm pretty sure you do if you die from falling
22:28.04Fisker-nope
22:28.07AntiarcSunTsu: Ah, hm, I haven't seen that one
22:28.12AntiarcWell, I'll test it then! :V
22:28.38SunTsuAntiarc: What asmodai said occured to me, too. Button never stopped from being dragged, only by logout/reload
22:28.46Antiarcrecent build?
22:28.48AntiarcI thought I fixed that one
22:28.53asmodaias recent as curse allowed me
22:29.00AntiarcYou should be able to stop the drag by clicking on it
22:29.01asmodaiin this case I dragged bugsack's icon
22:29.05Repo10dr-damage: 03Dally1991 06wrath-clone * r746 DrDamage.lua: DrDamage:
22:29.05Repo- Added support for new BT4 betas; still backwards compatible with 4.1.2 release version of BT4.
22:29.11SunTsuAntiarc: The most recent JWU got from wowace
22:29.16asmodaiAntiarc: tried almost everything I could :(
22:29.34asmodaireloadui fixed it though
22:29.45ZhinjioAntiarc: it occurs when you click on a button, and then you leave the area for "hover"... the button disappears, and interacting with it again to "fix" it back in place is very hard.
22:29.50Zhinjiopossible, but very hard.
22:29.57Zhinjiomaybe suspend "on hover" until a button stops dragging?
22:30.03AntiarcIt does :(
22:30.05AntiarcWhich is why I'm confused
22:30.18Zhinjioum... I've got the latest build CC downloads, and its still doing it
22:30.26ZhinjioI don't have the latest alpha, if there is oen
22:30.27asmodaiAntiarc: I have not managed to find a 100% reproduction way
22:30.27Zhinjioone
22:30.56AntiarcMy problem with Violation is that it's fugly :(
22:31.23vhaarrAntiarc: feel free to fix it up
22:31.25AntiarcWTB assessment's visual configurability
22:31.25ramozAntiarc: word - would be awesome if you could either skin it or make it look like omen
22:31.29vhaarrAntiarc: commit to trunk, ravage it
22:31.32AntiarcHehe
22:31.37vhaarrAntiarc: I'll be converting to ace3 any time now
22:31.38Stanzillaassessment was <3
22:31.42vhaarror no lib
22:31.43vhaarrwe'll see
22:32.02SunTsuAntiarc: About the visibility problem, changing the button's visibilty and setting it again normally works
22:32.08Antiarcvhaarr: I'll help you, if you'd like. I'd like an Ace3 damage meter that doesn't eat a bajillion RAM
22:32.15AntiarcAnd I want it to be sexy! :V
22:32.38vhaarrAntiarc: yeah go ahead
22:32.41Antiarcwoo
22:32.55vhaarrdon't branch, don't fork, trunk is where it's at, fuck users
22:32.59Antiarchahaha
22:33.01SunTsuZhinjio: Did you read my comment on TBC's tradeskill refreshment?
22:33.20SunTsurefreshing
22:34.02AntiarcI'll probaby branch until it's functional or whatever
22:34.11SunTsuEr BTC's, a little bit confused
22:34.19ZhinjioI did .. yeah. It doesn't stop refreshing, you just have to open the tradeskilla gain after using something with a cooldown. I plan on fixing that
22:34.29asmodainight folks
22:34.33vhaarrAntiarc: well I'd like a gradual conversion
22:34.50Antiarcright, but I figure there's a degree of irreducable complexity
22:35.01AntiarcSo until we're past that it should probably be not-broken
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22:36.11vhaarrAntiarc: first to ace3 and then new window design thing
22:36.11SunTsuZhinjio: I opened the tradeskill window many times without any change. I am using skillet, though
22:36.19Antiarcace3 should be the easy part
22:36.21vhaarrAntiarc: what has held me up is I want to make dewdrop3
22:36.28Antiarcvhaarr: LibDropdown
22:36.33AntiarcIt's mostly functional
22:36.44vhaarrAntiarc: ehm okay, I don't know about that, can I feed it ace2 option tables?
22:36.45AntiarcNeeds scrolling and intelligent on-screen handling
22:36.48ZhinjioSunTsu: don't know about skillet. unless it hooks the tradeskill window in a way that makes it impossible to interact with (possible, I suppose)
22:36.53ZhinjioI use ATSW, and it works fine still.
22:36.54vhaarrAntiarc: or similar
22:37.04AntiarcI think it only takes Ace3, but I wrote it to be modular so you could feed it Ace2 if I get a handler written for it
22:37.05Zhinjioanyway, I'll take a look at it. please file a ticket with details
22:37.14vhaarrAntiarc: ah well ace3 works fine too
22:37.34vhaarrAntiarc: I want to get rid of multiple windows and make violation even smaller btw
22:37.38vhaarrAntiarc: I'm not looking to add fat to it
22:37.49AntiarcHm, multiple windows I like
22:37.57AntiarcThe ability to spawn a new window, that is
22:38.04vhaarrwell if it can be done in a sane way then maybe
22:38.12Antiarcfor example, I like to run fight DPS and cumulative damage windows in Assessment
22:38.15AntiarcBut assessment is basically dead
22:38.23vhaarrokay
22:38.43AntiarcI really love assessment's visual setup and category navigation
22:38.47AntiarcSuper dead easy
22:38.48SunTsuZhinjio: I am talking about skill info, not cooldowns, and it still was like Blacksmithing 193/225 even when I was at 205/225 - which I didn't in one turn
22:38.50vhaarrnever used it
22:39.12AntiarcYou might give it an install and play with it, as far as it works
22:39.16AntiarcIt's a fantastic meter
22:39.23vhaarrAntiarc: anyway I want the report stuff and some other things to remain in a right-click LDB menu, and the window options on right click, so we need libdropdown
22:39.28AntiarcBut Roart went afk life
22:39.36ZhinjioSunTsu: aha. ok.
22:39.46vhaarrAntiarc: but some things could be moved to the interface options
22:39.49AntiarcWell, there's EasyMenu which covers everything except range scrolling
22:40.21vhaarreasymenu sucks, because it won't show tooltips unless "Show Beginner Tooltips" is ticked in blizzard options
22:40.29Antiarcugh
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22:42.33Antiarcvhaarr: I suspect you don't want this, but thoughts on breakdown by ability?
22:42.41vhaarrthat's a no
22:42.44AntiarcIt's nice to be able to see at least what % of each ability my healing is, etc
22:42.47AntiarcFigured so :)
22:42.53CIA-63panda: 03Tekkub 07master * raab2660 10/ (Enchanting.lua Panda.toc): Add some enchant-to-vellum panels - http://is.gd/6OIZ
22:42.57CIA-63panda: 03Tekkub 07master * r85730f9 10/ PanelFactory.lua : Adapt know combine tracker to work with enchant scrolls - http://is.gd/6OJ2
22:43.06Repo10easydkp: 03Pericles * r29 ClassFrame.lua: EasyDKP: -
22:43.07Repodrycoded change to classframe to adjust dropdown size
22:43.51Antiarcwould you be opposed to leaving hooks in place that would let a third-party addon add that to violation?
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22:44.17JaxonI always thought that type of analysis was better left for post-fight evaluation.
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22:45.45Repo10ag_pimpster: 03kagaro * r5 / (3 files in 1 directory):
22:45.46Repoag_Pimpster: switched to standalone saved vairables and some more sane defaults
22:49.07vhaarrAntiarc: I'd like to see what that means for the code, specificall
22:49.09vhaarry
22:49.16AntiarcI don't know yet
22:49.22vhaarrexactly :)
22:49.44AntiarcJust thinking about how the core could be left trim, and allow people to tack on things they specifically need that'd be bloat for others
22:49.44vhaarrAntiarc: but hm
22:49.51vhaarrAntiarc: it's easy
22:49.57Antiarcfigured it would be! :)
22:50.09vhaarrAntiarc: you let modules add things to the bar mouseover tooltip in the windows, and make a "Detailed DPS" module
22:50.20vhaarrdisabled by default
22:50.22vhaarrdone and done
22:50.22AntiarcReally, just make sure the model and views are different and it's easy peasy
22:52.41Repo10acheron: 03Nickodemus_wow * r53 / (2 files in 1 directory):
22:52.41Repofix nagging issue with raid member reports occasionally disappearing for no reason
22:55.03Repo10acheron: 03Nickodemus_wow 041.0.4 * r54 : Tagging as 1.0.4
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22:58.57Mezir|SemiAFKhi anybody who could could help me with a texture for kgpanels? im trying to build a new wow 3.0 interface using kgpanels and bt4. I would like to have the caith buttons border texture as border texture for kgpanels, could somebody help me with that?
22:59.01Repo10ag_pimpster: 03kagaro * r6 config_utils.lua: ag_Pimpster: removed debug line
22:59.27Mezir|SemiAFKwould be totaly great
23:01.22kagaroMezir|SemiAFK: if the texture is in libsharedmedia as a border it should be in the dropdown, otherwise add it to kgpanels in the artwork -> border section
23:01.28thulhttp://cainadamsson.deviantart.com/art/Dishes-103140864 <- portrait of the day
23:02.34Fastiis there a bar mod that only has 1 button? :)
23:05.25Mezir|SemiAFKkagaro, well the problem is not to add the texture, the problem is to get it :D
23:05.39kagarogmp?
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23:05.51Mezir|SemiAFKthe border texture i find in the caith button/texture folder is white oO totaly empty
23:06.44kagarothen i dont know what to tell you
23:06.56Mezir|SemiAFK:/ sad thing, sill thx
23:07.05AntiarcYou'd have to convert it into a border texture anyhow >_>
23:07.12kagaroif you somehow find the texture object its easy to add and use
23:07.13AntiarcLook in the code to see what path it uses
23:07.31kagaro~seen ag`
23:07.35purlag` <n=ag`@90.185.136.227> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 23h 24m 14s ago, saying: 'Stanzilla: yeah, there's a lot of options that could benefit from having a global one'.
23:08.29Mezir|SemiAFKanti, the code of what? the button pack or button facade?
23:08.42Mezir|SemiAFK(sry for my bad english)
23:09.28Repo10ag_pimpster: 03kagaro 04v0.8 Stable * r7 : Tagging as v0.8 Stable
23:10.15AntiarcThe pack, naturally
23:10.31Mezir|SemiAFKlol k stupid question of mine
23:11.00Mezir|SemiAFKwould be the .toc? right?
23:11.06AntiarcNo, the lua
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23:11.41Mezir|SemiAFKk brings me to the file i already found
23:11.52Mezir|SemiAFKnamed border ^^ but when i open it its empty/white
23:12.39Antiarcerm, it's not white
23:12.43AntiarcIt's a black border with a white center
23:12.45Antiarc:P
23:13.36Mezir|SemiAFKo_Ô i cant see any black border
23:13.53AntiarcThere's a 5px black border
23:14.01AntiarcYou'd have to convert it to a border texture anyhow, that texture won't work
23:14.07Gnarfozmeh, I want to know what's draining my performance :\
23:14.14AntiarcGnarfoz: OptionHouse is good for that
23:14.23Gnarfozwasn't that by tekkub
23:14.27Gnarfozand horribly bad to use?
23:14.29AntiarcShadowed
23:14.32Gnarfozhm
23:14.34ShadowedAntiarc
23:14.43Gnarfozbelow 20fps in raids sucks :\
23:14.46AntiarcI was citing the author of OptionHouse!
23:14.50ShadowedI see
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23:15.18GnarfozShadowed: got my report about (a) cooldown showing in the wrong category with afflicted2?
23:15.26Mezir|SemiAFKwell...and how do i do it? :)
23:15.47trhhi, can anyone tell me how the manage authors function should work? if i enter the name of the co-author and click "add author" i get 0 feedback
23:16.02Gnarfozit's just broken right now
23:16.06Gnarfoz^^
23:16.08AntiarcMezir|SemiAFK: Look at the format of the tooltip border or whatnot
23:16.08Mezir|SemiAFKor do you have an idea how to create an border for kgpanels that looks like the border of the ,,caith button pack'' for Button Facade?
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23:16.20trhGnarfoz: can they be added by staff?
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23:16.29Gnarfoztrh: not sure, ask staff :D
23:16.37trhhello curse-staff?
23:16.44AntiarcTry #curseforge
23:16.53CIA-63nutcounter: 03Tekkub 07master * r12b43bd 10/ NutCounter.lua : Fix button parent so they don't show up outside the inbox - http://is.gd/6OYd
23:16.53trhthanks :)
23:17.42AntiarcTekkub: I may have to get that addon on principle
23:18.00Tekkub^^
23:18.01AntiarcBecause, see, way back when we were in SSC, someone on Vent asked "How do you tell if a tree druid is male or female?"
23:18.11AntiarcAnd I instantly came back with "You check it for nuts"
23:18.24Tekkubyea it doesn't do that
23:18.26AntiarcAnd since then "Check it for nuts" has become the stock bad joke response in my raid
23:18.34AntiarcSo anything about nuts is basically required for me
23:18.36AntiarcWhat's it do?
23:18.42TekkubBeanCounter
23:19.00AntiarcI guess I need to write a reagent watcher and call it NutChecker
23:19.10Tekkubalso has a mass-mail-opener since you have to slow down and let it get the invoice details
23:19.28trhand NutInspector (which caches equipment or sth. ;)
23:19.41TekkubNutHugger
23:19.51AntiarcNutHugger would be amazing
23:20.20AntiarcAnd it could all be tied together with a HUD
23:20.23AntiarcCalled NutsInYourFace
23:22.26Mezir|SemiAFK<_< sry but one last question where the heck do i find the blizzard tooltip border texture?
23:22.31Mezir|SemiAFKcant manage to find it
23:22.37TekkubUpInUrNuts
23:22.45Antiarcyou'd have to extract it from the MPQs
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23:23.05nevcairielInterface\Tooltips\UI-Tooltip-Border
23:23.06nevcairiel^
23:23.10AntiarcJewelcrafting prospecting mod called NutCrusher
23:23.29trhloot-something mod: NutGrabber! ;)
23:23.32Tekkubthat's Panda Antiarc
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23:32.32Fisker-I CANNOT SLEEP
23:32.34Fisker-I WILL END YOU
23:32.53Gnarfozend yourself instead
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23:34.04Fisker-good idea
23:34.14GnarfozZeksie: so it's definitely some interaction issue. it doesn't error on load on a clean char
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23:35.41Fisker-hires Gnarfoz as a consulent
23:35.52Fisker-or consultant actually
23:36.20ShotTekkub: does Panda work atm?
23:36.31Tekkubyes
23:36.36stew_aWhat was the name of the addon that randomly swapped your titles? i remember seeing one roll past in here
23:36.42Shotthe last one I grabbed from wowinterface (yesterday) errored when it loaded, and stopped me milling
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23:42.52Repo10button-bin: 03dhedbor * r49 ButtonBin.lua: - Rewrote text updating algorithm so it's no longer broken.
23:42.53Repo- Added ability to toggle labels, text and values individually (per bin and per block)
23:42.55Repo- Added configurable label, text, value and unit colors (per bin)
23:44.09Groktardhacks off your limbs
23:44.18Antiarcyay
23:44.22AntiarcI hope that fixes my problems with buttonbin
23:44.50Fisker-i want nehalem :I
23:44.54Groktardhehe
23:44.57Gnarfozthe latest changes finally make it come somewhere near fubar
23:45.11Gnarfozwasn't anywhere near it before, even though he kept claiming that :p
23:47.17NeoTronAntiarc: it fixes things not updating the text correctly,  like StatBlock_Durabilituy
23:47.27AntiarcPerfect
23:47.30AntiarcThat was my issue with it
23:47.37NeoTronjust decided to add more flexibility in what to display while I was at it
23:48.04NeoTrontook quite a bit of rewrite to fix but should upgrade smoothly
23:48.31NeoTrononly caveat is that some addons with just a label will not get text displayed if the global label is disabled (but you can override on block level if needed)
23:48.48NeoTroni.e launchers won't have any text without labels enabled, while they did before
23:50.30NeoTronbut there's a bug! can't override the global text disable..
23:50.31NeoTronfixes.
23:50.42AntiarcDid we ever establish the potential of the guild calendar for using it as a guild data store?
23:51.37Gnarfozwtb comments for raid signups
23:51.40Gnarfozand approval functionalty
23:51.51Gnarfozso you don't need an external app like phpRaid anymore :p
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23:57.03Groktardso i'm finding that my white damage is a much lower percent of my total output than pre-3.0
23:57.06Repo10button-bin: 03dhedbor * r50 ButtonBin.lua:
23:57.06Groktardwith a TG build
23:57.07Repo- Allow block level override for text display even on bars with all text disabled.
23:57.10Groktardkinda shocking
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23:57.23Groktardi was expecting it to be closer to 60ish
23:57.31Groktardbut it seems to be hoving from 35-40
23:58.04Azurewrathmhm.. someone else having the problem with re-appearing button borders after the last BT4 update?
23:58.42Groktardi have no borders
23:59.47Azurewrathmhm.. strange

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