IRC log for #wowace on 20081108

00:00.09HjalteWhat is the name of the addon that helps you sign up more than a party for AV?
00:00.11Arrowmasterusing it for making xml files is fine, as long as you know what its doing, dont trust it at all to do other stuff, and know how to fix the xml files to work with your real project
00:00.43Daemonapreform av enabler?
00:00.44Daemona;)
00:00.50Daemonabut rumors say its only for the horde
00:01.25mitchnull;)
00:01.34Arrowmasterwhen i used it i dont think it worked nearly as well as even the *shudder* limited VB experience ive had where creating something in the gui would actually create the empty functions in the code for you
00:02.08Arrowmasterso ive seen people with no clue what the fuck their doing trying to use it and they have xml calling whatever function it had as defaults, and code that doesnt match
00:02.36HjalteDaemona: Sigh at needing an addon for it
00:03.02DaemonaHjalte it basically just syncs the "join queue" click
00:03.04Daemonanothing more
00:03.07Daemonawith some fancy ui
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00:03.32Antiarchttp://i38.tinypic.com/2yo6cqo.jpg :V
00:03.33Daemonathere is no way to 100% join a bg with more than 5 people and not running against the auto-team matching for raids
00:03.36XinhuanKaelten, i just noticed that the forums under http://forums.wowace.com/forumdisplay.php?f=70 don't actually get displayed in http://forums.wowace.com/index.php
00:04.04Kaeltennope
00:04.10Xinhuanis that a bug or?
00:04.29Antiarcrofl, the radar sweeper is so obnoxious
00:05.14Kaeltenpeople bitched that wowace and curseforge shared forums
00:05.20Kaeltenthe 70 is cf's
00:05.26Xinhuanoh so those are the shared ones?
00:05.52KaeltenI think general chat is still shared
00:05.53Kaeltennothing else is
00:06.24Xinhuanwas wondering why it was so "underused"
00:06.26Xinhuanas a forum
00:06.38Kaeltenbecause 95% of the forum traffic is on wowace
00:07.11Fisker-btw
00:07.29Fisker-If Blizzard buffed chain heal or gave paladins ae heal we could just run through 25-man instances with 18 players for ez epics
00:07.33StanzillaAckis: http://ace.pastey.net/100945 fix plx
00:07.41Fisker-yeah or you could just stop taking shamans and paladins to instances and get the same result
00:07.42Fisker-hoho
00:08.21GroktarFisker-: that was random
00:08.45Xinhuan"18" is also equally random
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00:09.41Arrowmasterhahaha my friend just called me as hes getting to his appartment asking if ive got GoW2 and if its coop time, then he cant get in his appartment and says hes gota call his GF now
00:10.19Xinhuantell him, its "oops time", not "coop time"
00:11.06Fisker-damn
00:11.23Fisker-http://www.physorg.com/news145255770.html
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00:11.41Fisker-in b4 the price explodes :3
00:12.35Xinhuani wonder how they name the articles 145255770, or whether they were random()
00:16.40NeoTronI can say with 100% certainty that I am done running level 70 raids.. at 70
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00:19.35BaraiusQuick question:  Someone was working on a LDB addon that kept track of your money per character like MoneyFu did.  Does this sound familiar to anyone?  I can't find it now.
00:20.13AntiarcMoneyTrail?
00:20.48Fisker-~kiss Fisker-
00:20.49purlACTION forces Fisker- to give Tinyboom a big kiss on the forehead
00:20.56BaraiusThat might be it.  Thank you.
00:21.31Fisker-http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1226103642093.jpg <-win
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00:32.25Repo10nobility-console: 03ciscoh * r59 GuildManagementTools (7 files in 2 directories): added about frame panel
00:33.03Fisker-~kiss Fisker-
00:33.03purlACTION forces Fisker- to give Parnic a big kiss on the lips
00:35.26Xinhuanhmm i finally just noticed that the mount spell icons grey out when indoors
00:35.34Xinhuani guess i haven't been paying much attention
00:35.37NivFreaklol
00:35.42NivFreakweren't you on beta too?
00:36.00NivFreakI dislike how they changed a few things though
00:36.07Xinhuani don't show my mount on my bars
00:36.15NivFreakit used to be that the combat/swimming checks were done right when you started casting your mount
00:36.20NivFreaknow they seem to happen at the end
00:36.41NivFreakXinhuan: Didn't I see your mount as 1 on your action bar? :P
00:36.58Xinhuanwell i never noticed it
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00:50.15AntiarcWhat's the cap on inscription currently?
00:50.29Xinhuantechnically, 375, practically, 365
00:51.17NivFreakat what point do you get your extra major glyph
00:51.25NivFreakand does it consume a minor glyph spot?
00:51.44SunTsuNivFreak: You don't get one
00:51.51NivFreakthey took that out?
00:52.02SunTsuNivFreak: Yeah
00:52.10NivFreakwtf
00:52.26NivFreakwell, that makes my choices easier I guess
00:52.32SunTsuInscriptors can do their own shoulder and heas enchantment instead
00:53.07NivFreakI haven't even managed to find the non-inscription shoulder/head enchants yet
00:53.38NivFreakI heard the inscription ones are intended to be the best though
00:53.47NivFreakI'm curious how they stack up
00:53.54SunTsuNivFreak: Scryers/Aldor and reputation rewards
00:54.29NivFreakI assume there will be updated scryers/aldors ones
00:54.31NivFreakfor wrath
00:54.33JaxonI don't know what is marking ? on my map for people to return quests to, but I like it.
00:54.36NivFreakwith some other faction
00:54.46NivFreakJaxon: default UI
00:54.51NivFreakoh
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00:54.57NivFreaknot your minimap?
00:55.04JaxonWorld Map
00:55.17JaxonMaybe it is UberQuest
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00:59.37Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar 04Beta 15 * r112 : Tagging as Beta 15
01:01.02Repo10lib-st: 03ddumont * r46 Core.lua: pass cell as arg if no color args
01:01.18Repo10range-display: 03mitch0 * r197 / (2 files in 1 directory):
01:01.19Repofixed color flicker while changing config and locking/unlocking issues
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01:08.19HjalteAntiarc: I'm playing around with the hud display in sexymap, but it's very difficult to know what way to go to get to a note, when the minimap itself isn't spinning around like it usually is :)
01:08.34NivFreaklol
01:08.38NivFreakI changed the skin on mine
01:09.09SunTsu.o0( changing skin always makes me think of face/off )
01:09.34AntiarcHjalte: It should spin, just line up the node with the line
01:10.23HjalteAntiarc: Oh, it only spins if I have my normal minimap set to spin. Could you make it change that blizzard setting when enabling Hud? or make a toggle for it at least.
01:13.45AntiarcIt should do that
01:13.51AntiarcYou have the latest version?
01:14.15HjalteAntiarc: r20081107230602
01:14.24HjalteWhich should be the latest afaik
01:14.35Antiarctry toggling it off and on
01:14.38AntiarcSee if it spins properly
01:14.54HjalteIt does, but I had to turn on the spin manually.
01:15.03AntiarcHrm. That isn't right.
01:15.09AntiarcTurn if off, then toggle the hud off and on again
01:15.25HjalteOkay
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01:16.29HjalteAntiarc: Now it's working. I relogged though, but it works. Turned off the spinning, then turned on the hud and it switched to spin, then disabled hud and the normal minimap doesn't spin.
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01:20.34HjalteAntiarc: Is it you or Xinhuan I should bug for Routes support? :)
01:20.50AntiarcMe. I'm working on it, but it's gonna take some hacking
01:21.51HjalteAntiarc: This is quite good already, but it could become awesome.
01:22.07AntiarcI really like it, myself
01:22.18AntiarcMuch more than I thought I would
01:23.28Gnarfozcan anyone point me to a good example of a really basic addon that only uses LDB to create a launcher?
01:25.38Xinhuanyes, Omen3, Omen:PLAYER_LOGIN() function
01:25.59AntiarcXinhuan: Is there an easy way to override the minimap line width and offset-from-node settings?
01:26.18Xinhuanno Antiarc
01:26.25AntiarcHrm.
01:26.30Xinhuanthe addon wasn't designed with multiple minimaps in mind lol
01:26.36Antiarcyeah, didn't think so :P
01:27.52XinhuanGnarfoz, that's about as simple as a LDB launcher can get :)
01:28.12GnarfozXinhuan: thanks, exactly what I was looking for. I just want a toggle :D
01:29.15omegawhoa, this hudmap thingy is nice :p
01:30.01Xinhuangathermate had support for it that's why it is nice lol
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01:30.19Xinhuanyou would need to state it has specific support only for gathermate though
01:30.44XinhuanAntiarc just has to work out why the lines are super fat
01:30.56Xinhuanwhen the lines are attached to his minimap lol
01:34.19XinhuanAntiarc, the main difference between gathermate and routes is that the line textures are subchild and scale in size, but the gathermate icons are fixed in size as the yellow blips also don't scale
01:35.37Xinhuanin gathermate
01:35.42Xinhuanalthough we parent the icons to Minimap
01:35.48Xinhuanwe have a specific line of code that says
01:35.51Xinhuanpin:SetHeight(12 * db.scale / minimapScale)
01:35.55Xinhuanpin:SetWidth(12 * db.scale / minimapScale)
01:36.04Xinhuanso their size is fixed regardless of the scale of the Miniamp
01:36.28Xinhuani hope this info helps ;p
01:36.53Repo10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v2.1.0.5 * r219 : Tagging as v2.1.0.5
01:37.07Xinhuanso yes, on every OnUpdate interval we do retrieve the minimap's scale, and if its different from the previous scale
01:37.17Xinhuanwe update all the icons' scale accordingly
01:37.32Xinhuanlines 779-788 of Display.lua
01:38.28Xinhuanor maybe it doesn't
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01:42.50Xinhuanoh yep, it does
01:42.59Xinhuanbut not the line numbers i stated ;d
01:43.13omegahehe
01:43.18omegathe hud looks nice when you die :p
01:43.36omegathe graveyard icon is kinda big
01:45.48FroMasterWhere can I get the latest version of LibPeriodicTable-3.1-TradeskillResultMats.lua?
01:50.57AntiarcXinhuan: Yeah, I just have to scale down the line width and pin deadzone
01:51.01AntiarcIf I can do that we're gravy
01:51.26Xinhuanthe deadzone is hardcoded at 5 pixels i believe
01:51.38AntiarcWell that explains why it's now 40 >_>
01:51.47AntiarcHudMapCluster:SetScale(8)
01:51.48Antiarc:V
01:52.04Xinhuansee line 655
01:52.06Xinhuanin Routes.lua
01:52.22Xinhuanthe numbers in that whole if-then section are hardcoded
01:52.28Xinhuan5 and 10 that is
01:52.43AntiarcAny chance I could convince you to add overrides?
01:52.58Xinhuanwhat would be an easy way to add such overrides?
01:52.59Antiarcminimap line width override and deadzone override
01:53.29AntiarcWell, just add getters/setters, then use something like "overrides.line_gap or 5"
01:53.31AntiarcOr something like that
01:53.47AntiarcLemme see if I can hack it in
01:53.50AntiarcI'll get a diff for you
01:54.33Xinhuansounds complicated
01:54.38AntiarcNot really
01:54.52Xinhuani don't want to store another number in my SV
01:55.12AntiarcYou don't have to
01:55.26AntiarcYou just add getters/setters and any mod that uses them assumes responsibility for managing them
01:57.05Antiarcyeah, this'll work nicely
01:58.01Xinhuanit might be easier if i just change the code to read (Minimap.routes_gapoverride or 5)
01:58.09AntiarcThat's what I mean :P
01:58.18AntiarcWell, Routes.gapoverride
01:58.27AntiarcI guess either works
01:58.43Xinhuanthe number should come on the minimap that i'm parenting to, not my own addon ;p
01:58.47AntiarcI'm testing it out - looks like this should work just fine
01:58.56Xinhuanas for line width
01:59.04Xinhuanyou can't just set a width override
01:59.12Xinhuanyou need a width ratio multiplier
01:59.25AntiarcIt seems to work okay >_>
01:59.44Xinhuanwell i suppose its ok since the gap is fixed in size
01:59.50Xinhuanbut the width of every route is adjustable
02:00.13AntiarcSo yeah, you're right then
02:00.23Xinhuantechnically the gap can just be changed to
02:00.30XinhuanMinimap:GetScale() * 5
02:00.41Xinhuansince its fixed in size right?
02:00.49AntiarcYup.
02:01.03Xinhuanthe yellow blips are fixed at 10x10 i think?
02:01.05AntiarcWait, no
02:01.10AntiarcYou want 5 / Minimap:GetScale()
02:01.48Xinhuanah ya
02:02.22Xinhuanmaybe the width multiplier can also be tied to the scale
02:02.38FroMasterI've got BugSack grabing a ton of errors. Do/can they be written to a log file that I can open and see the full details?
02:03.24Antiarcyeah, that works perfectly
02:03.30AntiarcJust divide the width by the minimap scale
02:03.32AntiarcAnd you're gravy
02:05.43Xinhuanso i just need an overall diff when you're done
02:06.17Xinhuanyour code would need to check for the existance of the reparenting function though
02:06.51Xinhuanyou can't assume it exists ;p
02:06.59AntiarcYup
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02:09.53Xinhuanalso
02:10.05Xinhuanthe Minimap line drawing code is actually called from an OnUpdate
02:10.12AntiarcI noticed that
02:10.17AntiarcIt's a wee bit jerky at large scale
02:10.19Xinhuanso for efficiency purposes, there should only be one call to get Minimap:GetScale() at most
02:10.23AntiarcNot horribly, but enough to be distracting
02:10.44Xinhuanyes, the jerking is because we only redraw if a minimum distance has been moved
02:10.54Xinhuanthis redraw distance is configurable in /routes
02:10.59AntiarcAh, okay
02:11.11Xinhuango /routes -> Options -> Map Drawing -> Update Distance
02:11.24Xinhuani think the default is 1 yard or something
02:11.56Xinhuansee if that helps
02:12.07AntiarcIt does, but hm.
02:12.16AntiarcI guess I'll just add a faq item about it
02:12.38Xinhuandecided to add FAQs like Gathermate/Routes/Omen3? ;p
02:13.35AntiarcI should
02:13.35AntiarcI'm bad at doc >_>
02:13.35Xinhuanstanzilla will kill you for translation hehe
02:13.35XinhuanRoutes really needed a FAQ/Help file though, because it is somewhat complicated to use
02:13.36AntiarcYeah, this is sexy
02:13.46AntiarcOne thing I've noticed is that every time I create a new route, it sucks badly until I run an optimization pass
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02:14.22Xinhuanyes, the default created route is just list of nodes that is table.sorted around the angle determined by a centroid location
02:14.31Xinhuanof all the nodes
02:14.47Antiarcyou might consider running an optimization pass after routes are created. People expect a small hitch then, anyhow
02:14.49Xinhuani didn't even have this initially, it would just be a mess of lines
02:14.55Antiarchttp://i37.tinypic.com/98ab0o.jpg
02:15.09Xinhuani dont' want to start an optimization pass automatically
02:15.14Xinhuanbecause it can take minutes
02:15.22Xinhuanand you can't stop one after it starts
02:15.25AntiarcMaybe optimize if it has under X nodes?
02:15.58AntiarcOptimizing routes with ~150 nodes takes me about 0.7 sec
02:16.00Xinhuannah, i stated clearly it needs to be optimized after creation ;p
02:16.18Xinhuansame with adding/removing taboo regions
02:16.24NeoTroncontemplates naming an addon the name of an old abandoned addon.
02:16.32Brunersyou could add an option to automagicly optimize routes then
02:16.56Aeyancontemplated naming an addon Contemplate.
02:17.20Xinhuandid you make your route color green to match your Sexymap lol
02:17.33NeoTronor not. There's a second abandoned addon by the same name on wowace :P
02:17.38Antiarcyes, I did
02:17.42AeyanPopular name
02:17.44AeyanWhat is it?
02:18.07NeoTronSerenity
02:18.18NeoTronnot sure why I liked it, not exactly directly related :P
02:18.20AeyanAh
02:18.22XinhuanAntiarc, do you also know the "radar in" distance is 80 yards, but radar out is 100 yards? ;p
02:18.27AeyanTranquility?
02:18.30AeyanZen?
02:18.42AntiarcDistance that nodes fade, you mean?
02:18.47NeoTronataraxis
02:18.58Xinhuanmeaning, the minimap blips appear when you first reach 80 yards of it, but dont' disappear until you move > 100 yards away
02:19.12Xinhuanyour circle is probably at.. 80 yards?
02:19.18AntiarcThat's fine. The circle is there to indicate "move the pins inside this circle to see if there is a node there
02:19.20AntiarcYes, it's 80
02:20.01Xinhuanit works even better if you make clustered routes
02:20.14Xinhuanclustered at 60 yards (default)
02:20.47Xinhuanshould probably try and see how it feels
02:22.10AntiarcHm
02:22.19AntiarcCalling Routes:ReparentMinimap(Minimap) doesn't clear routes off of the hudmap
02:22.41Xinhuanjust add a additional call
02:23.03Xinhuanself.G:HideLines(Minimap)
02:23.11Xinhuanwhere Minimap is the variable to pass in to hide
02:23.40Xinhuanand it will hide all the lines attached to that minimap object
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02:24.30Xinhuanor you can call it directly from your code, Routes.G:HideLines(myminimap)
02:24.40Xinhuannot sure which is better
02:24.43AntiarcI'm just adding it to the ReparentMinimap call
02:24.49AntiarcSo it hides all lines on the old minimap before reparenting
02:24.54AntiarcWhich seems correct in most any case.
02:24.59Xinhuanya, that's probably better anyway
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02:25.25AntiarcBah, I don't have a base copy of routes.lua
02:25.30AntiarcOh well, I can grab one I guees.
02:25.50Xinhuanthe repo should be open access
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02:27.57Antiarchttp://pastey.net/100969
02:28.41Xinhuanthere should be more changes
02:28.43durcynAntiarc: can has "hide in instance" for coords? :/
02:28.51Antiarcdurcyn: Sure
02:28.58Antiarcdurcyn: It should hide if the coords are 0, 0...
02:29.00AntiarcMaybe not
02:29.07Xinhuansee the hardcoded line numbers on line 670/672/674?
02:29.08AntiarcI dunno, that should behave that way if it doesn't
02:29.12durcynoh, and variable precision
02:29.24durcynwhile beggars are choosing
02:29.28Xinhuanyour version should probably be line numbers 672/674/676
02:30.07AntiarcJust divide by the scale then, I guess?
02:30.34syerenHmm, WTB CDB Author.
02:30.37Xinhuanjust make a new variable = 5 / minimapScale
02:30.40Xinhuanand use that
02:30.51Xinhuanthe "10" is obviously double of the 5 ;p
02:31.24Antiarcobviously :P
02:31.25Xinhuanwhat the code says
02:31.29Xinhuanif you aren't sure what it does
02:31.42Xinhuanis that we're shortening the line by 5 pixels on both ends
02:31.55Repo10dr-damage: 03Dally1991 06wrath-clone * r744 Data (9 files in 1 directory): DrDamage:
02:31.55Repo- Fixes and 3.0.3 updates for all classes (untested in case my internet dies in the next 10 minutes >_<)
02:32.22Xinhuannow we then want to check if the resulting line that is 10 pixels shorter, is actually still going to be longer than 0 pixels
02:32.42Xinhuanthat is, 2 nodes might be less than 9 pixels apart
02:32.50Xinhuanif line gaps aren't drawn, we just draw a 9 pixel line
02:33.02Xinhuanbut with line gaps, we end up attempting to draw a "-1" pixel line
02:33.10Xinhuansince its shortened on both ends
02:33.15Antiarchttp://pastey.net/100971
02:33.18Xinhuanand we don't want to draw a 1 pixel line that is reversed
02:34.04BrunersAntiarc: did you get my msg btw?
02:34.15AntiarcBruners: I didn't, no
02:34.22AntiarcOh, the editbox adjustment?
02:34.26Brunersyes
02:34.29AntiarcI got that, but I'm not comfortable hardcoding that adjustment
02:34.50Brunerswhat about the second one then ? :P
02:35.08AntiarcI don't think I got that one
02:35.08Brunersthat needs some localizations tho
02:35.32Xinhuanmove the "local gapConst = 5 / minimapScale" down by 1 line (into the if-then block), and test it, if it works, you can commit it (but don't tag)
02:36.21Xinhuani'll test it on my own end later with my minimap and with chinchilla, and see if its ok before i tag ;p
02:36.31AntiarcIt looks sexy :P
02:37.12Repo10routes: 03Antiarc * r212 Routes.lua:
02:37.13RepoAdd line width and gap scaling based on the inverse of the parent minimap scale. This lets us use Routes on big minimaps without the routes themselves being obscenely large.
02:37.56Xinhuani'm at 18k/21k rep with goblins, just need 7 more runs hehe
02:38.04Xinhuanto 38 exalted factions
02:38.38Brunersstupid inscription dude wants 20g for level 15 inscription thingie
02:41.16XinhuanAntiarc, what's your "hud" map feature called
02:41.20AntiarcHudMap
02:41.25Antiarc:V
02:41.27Xinhuanif you gave it a module name that is
02:41.31AntiarcThat's it
02:41.36Xinhuanthat sounds so.. unsexy
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02:41.48AntiarcTaking suggestions for sexier names!
02:42.04vithos_every time i /reloadui i hear my BugSack error sound, but when it finishes loading there's no error
02:42.06Poul|RaiderHey, can i by script get the gold reward and the gold compensation thing from a quest?
02:42.20Poul|Raiderif i want to check out how much exp a quest will give me when lvl cap get removed
02:42.40Xinhuanvithos_, maybe some addon is doing stuff "on logout"
02:42.44Xinhuanand its erroring ;p
02:43.37vithos_probably :(
02:44.11vithos_i have error saving turned on but i guess there's just no way to capture it?
02:44.32Xinhuanturn it on
02:45.04vithos_oh wait there it is, i was looking at session errors before
02:45.13Xinhuanstabs vithos_ with a pillow
02:45.19Gnarfozis this valid? :SetScript("OnEvent", nil)
02:45.27Xinhuanyes
02:45.34Gnarfozk
02:45.38Xinhuanit removes an existing function handler if one exists
02:45.43Gnarfozyep, that's my intention
02:45.49Gnarfozfor lack of UnsetScript ^^
02:45.55Jyggahm my grid keeps updating the last two classes producing a small freeze
02:45.59Xinhuantechnically the "nil" argument isn't necessary
02:46.15Xinhuanbut almost 99% of programmers put it there for clarity
02:46.19Jyggaeach few seconds one group disappears and reappears -.-
02:46.35Xinhuan:SetScript("OnEvent") is just as good that is, for removing
02:46.41Gnarfozyeah, figures
02:46.44Xinhuanpassing in "nil" is redundant hehe
02:46.48GnarfozI'll be part of the 99% ;)
02:48.32AntiarcAddin ,nil is more clear and self-documenting though
02:50.46Brunersis there a testmode in recount?
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02:50.57Repo10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * 1203f26 HudMap.lua: [+1 commit] Add Routes support (requires alpha routes build); add HUD coloring support
02:51.59vithos_Shadowed: ping
02:52.23AntiarcThere: http://i34.tinypic.com/mrg6ip.jpg - two routes (peacebloom and herbalism), with gather blips overlayed.
02:53.49Poul|RaiderAnyone here who happen to been testing how much heoric daylie quest gave of xp at lvl 70 on beta?
02:54.49XinhuanAntiarc, try clustering your routes
02:56.20Xinhuanis your HuDMap square or round
02:56.41Xinhuani can't really tell heh
02:57.37AntiarcIt's round
02:58.04Xinhuanyou might need to modify the return value of your GetMinimapShape() function while HuDMap is displayed
02:58.17AntiarcWhy's that?
02:58.26Xinhuanbecause routes/gathermate calls that to determine the edges of what icons to display
02:58.32Xinhuanthe outer limits that is
02:58.58Xinhuanso if your hud is round, but your main minimap is square, it may be irregular to have icons rotate in and out of view at the corners
02:59.27AntiarcWell, it doesn't really matter, since there's no backdrop to the minimap
02:59.42Xinhuan"it may be irregular to have icons rotate in and out of view at the corners"
02:59.55Xinhuanfor a square one
03:00.03AntiarcOh, I see
03:00.27AntiarcIs GetMinimapShape a community standard?
03:00.30Xinhuanyes
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03:00.39AntiarcGot it
03:01.05Xinhuanthe minimap addon should always provide this function, so that any addon can check for the existence of GetMinimapShape
03:01.12Xinhuan(absence assumes the minimap shape is round)
03:01.21Xinhuan!api GetMinimapShape
03:01.21lua_botCould not find a match for 'GetMinimapShape'.
03:01.26Xinhuanhmm lousy ;p
03:01.37Xinhuanhere
03:01.37Xinhuanhttp://www.wowwiki.com/GetMinimapShape
03:01.47Xinhuan"GetMinimapShape is a function that is declared by the currently running minimap addon to provide information about what shape it is, in case other addons need to deal with the minimap's borders. "
03:02.14Xinhuanlots of addons (probably over 50) call it
03:02.25Xinhuanfor minimap icon placement
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03:03.42KillmorePoul|Raider: someone of my guild try with 2-3 quests of the isles and it gave 9-10k
03:04.51Brunersis there an addon to change the font on the built in combat text?
03:05.27XinhuanBruners, going to have to say "no" but the font is changable
03:05.48Xinhuanby overriding the font file by putting your own font file in World of Warcraft\Fonts\ folder with the same name as the wow internal font files
03:05.58Brunersthat would also change every other font
03:06.15Xinhuanyep
03:06.24Brunersdoing that already :P
03:10.21Brunersis there still a cap on resilience btw and what is it?
03:10.38Xinhuan33% reduction for damage, half of that for chance to crit
03:11.09sylvanaari wonder, if the version of clique i got from curse works...
03:11.15Xinhuansylvanaar, it does
03:11.16Brunersgot 13,47 and 29,63
03:11.20Xinhuanthe SVN is synced
03:11.24sylvanaarhrm
03:11.28sylvanaarno worky for me
03:11.37Xinhuanso that wowace's svn copy does weekly checkouts from wowi's one
03:11.41Brunersr108 is working for me
03:11.51Brunersclique that is
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03:12.53doom0ranyone know if tenris is up today still?
03:14.30sylvanaarwierd, somehow all the bindings had ALT in them
03:15.46Repo10monkeytoggler: 038tImER 07master * 17dfb90 / (5 files in 2 directories): [new, +3 commits]
03:15.47Repo17dfb90: add .pkgmeta
03:15.48Repobb7e58b: add MonkeyQuest dependency
03:15.49Repo02cbbd8: MonkeyToggler - nomen est omen
03:15.55Gnarfozyay!
03:16.06Gnarfozfisher price "my first git"
03:16.06Gnarfoz;D
03:16.21Gnarfoztoo bad still have that fucking horrible name :(
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03:16.53Xinhuanlol Gnarfoz, you finally used git ;p
03:17.00Gnarfozhm, should the change log show "unknown (3):"?
03:17.04Xinhuanfrom that "tutorial" a few days ago?
03:17.18Xinhuanyeah, you probably didn't setup your name/email in your git setup
03:17.22durcynAntiarc: huh, so SplitText taints FocusUnit()
03:17.28Gnarfozwell, I wanted it for something entirely different back then, but that failed because the repo was actually empty
03:17.52Gnarfozso I thought, why not try it now
03:18.08AntiarcHow? o.0
03:18.19GnarfozXinhuan: hm, how'd I go about that?
03:18.30Xinhuango open Git GUI somewhere
03:18.34XinhuanEdit menu --> Options
03:18.43GnarfozI see.
03:18.44Xinhuanyou'll see a user name and email address box
03:18.45Gnarfozis that global?
03:18.50AntiarcI guess it'd have to be the ChatFrameEditBox hook
03:18.52Xinhuannot sure if its global
03:18.56Gnarfozoh
03:18.57Gnarfozdang
03:18.59Xinhuanthe left side isn't
03:19.01Xinhuanthe right side is
03:19.01GnarfozI should open my eyes.
03:19.02Gnarfoz:p
03:19.24Gnarfozfunny though
03:19.35Xinhuanof course there are also git command line versions to set the username/email
03:19.38Gnarfozrepo knows who I am because I use ssh
03:19.39Xinhuanif you care about it
03:19.49Gnarfozwill the settings in the GUI affect the cli?
03:19.55Xinhuanyes
03:20.05Xinhuanthe GUI is just.. a GUI for the cli
03:20.14Gnarfozshould I touch any of the other options in that setup window?
03:20.19Xinhuanif you want to
03:20.25GnarfozI have no clue what they mean. :D
03:20.44Xinhuanfor example, "number of diff context lines" will show plus-minus the lines that didn't change around the liens that changed
03:20.54Xinhuanwhen you do "git diff"
03:21.02Xinhuanand also for the git diff display inside git gui
03:21.20durcynAntiarc: so it works from the raid pullout context menu, but the slash handler is blocked
03:21.32AntiarcBah.
03:21.35AntiarcI'll see what I can do
03:21.40AntiarcCan't do it with a posthook though :/
03:23.39GnarfozXinhuan: do you have approve powers or are your powers limited to forum stuff?
03:23.48Xinhuani have approve powers
03:24.10Gnarfozalso, check the main file name. ;p
03:24.30Xinhuan@project monkeytoggler
03:24.30RepoXinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/monkeytoggler/. MonkeyToggler. Game: WoW. Status: Needs Approval. Leader: 8tImER. Updated: 8 minutes ago
03:25.13Xinhuanyou should probably link to MonkeyQuest in that description
03:25.15Xinhuan@project monkeytoggler
03:25.15RepoXinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/monkeytoggler/. MonkeyToggler. Game: WoW. Leader: 8tImER. Updated: 9 minutes ago
03:25.22Gnarfozindeed
03:25.38Gnarfozonly searched on wowace when I looked
03:25.48Xinhuanto create a tag, you will need to use the cli
03:25.56Xinhuani don't think git gui can do it heh
03:26.03GnarfozI'll see about that shortly :)
03:26.58Xinhuanthe command is: git tag -a -m "Tagging as v1.0" v1.0
03:27.06Xinhuanthat will tag your current master/HEAD
03:27.15Gnarfozdoes the 'project hash' change each time I commit?
03:27.22Gnarfozthe one that gets keyword replaced
03:27.27Gnarfoz@project-hash@
03:27.37Gnarfozeach time I push, rather
03:27.44Xinhuanyes i think
03:27.48Xinhuanthen you will need to: git push --tags
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03:27.55Xinhuanin order to push the local tags to the server side
03:28.21Xinhuan(or you can use Git gui, and click the "push" button, and turn on the "push tags also" checkbox)
03:30.07Xinhuanbefore you push, you can verify with gitk that your tag exists
03:31.17Xinhuankey difference between SVN's tag and git's tag, is that a SVN tag is really just a branch that can be modified, git's tag is just a shorthand name for a particular commit
03:32.12Gnarfozuh oh
03:32.21Gnarfozerror 500, to the batmobile!
03:32.42Xinhuanwhat is it ;p
03:32.56Gnarfozcan I not add a default relationship 'required dependency' for curseforge projects?
03:33.04Xinhuanyes
03:33.05Gnarfozon http://www.wowace.com/projects/monkeytoggler/repositories/mainline/edit-default-relationships/
03:33.13Gnarfozit's 500'ing on me, though :(
03:33.17Gnarfozshortname for MQ is monkey-quest
03:33.54Xinhuan@project monkey-quest
03:33.55RepoXinhuan: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/monkey-quest/. MonkeyQuest. Game: WoW. Leader: Jim-Bim. Updated: 23 days ago. Tickets: 2/2
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03:34.55Xinhuanyou can complain later ;p
03:34.59Xinhuanabout the 500 heh
03:35.08Gnarfozheh yeah
03:35.11Gnarfoznot that important now
03:35.27Gnarfozit's only for the CC anyway, right
03:36.07Xinhuani dont' know heh
03:36.09Gnarfozhmm
03:36.17Gnarfozleft-clicking in the unstaged changes area
03:36.27Gnarfozshould do what? it always gives me a popup that there are no changes
03:36.38Repo10chatter: 03Antiarc * r213 modules.xml: Turn off SplitText until taint is resolved
03:36.44Gnarfozwhy would it show up under 'unstaged changes' if there are none?
03:36.56Xinhuanwhy would what showup?
03:37.10Gnarfoza changed file shows up in the "orange" area
03:37.18Xinhuanuh huh, and?
03:37.34Xinhuanwhat does the diff say
03:37.35Gnarfozwhat'd you expect to happen if you left-clicked that?
03:37.53Xinhuanwell it should show a diff in the yellow area
03:38.06Gnarfozwell
03:38.12Gnarfozhttp://ace.pastey.net/100981 < it does this instead
03:38.13Xinhuanyou can press F5 to rescan
03:38.27Gnarfozit only showed up after pressing f5
03:38.42Xinhuanheh
03:38.52Xinhuannever seen that one
03:39.05Gnarfozprobably can't find diff and falls back to that?
03:39.06Xinhuanprobably a 1.6 feature of gitgui
03:39.11Gnarfozdunno :\
03:39.38Xinhuandid you turn on "trust file modification timestamps"
03:39.43Gnarfozno
03:40.11Xinhuanor just select the file and revert it
03:40.13Xinhuansee what happens ;p
03:40.24Gnarfozcan't select
03:40.28Gnarfozleft click gives that popup xD
03:40.56Xinhuannever had the issue ;p
03:41.06Gnarfozit did revert correctly, though
03:41.24Gnarfozactually, no
03:41.25Gnarfozwhat
03:41.43Gnarfoz:D
03:42.26Gnarfozalso, is it normal that it keeps the commit message around?
03:42.51Xinhuanonly if you selected "amend last commit"
03:43.06Xinhuanwhich means to change the last commit with your current commit into one big new commit
03:43.38Gnarfozhm nah, 'new commit' is selected and the field was not cleared after pushing earlier
03:43.45Xinhuanif you didn't push to the server, that's usually fine, if you did push, then you would have created a branching point
03:44.06Xinhuanpushing doesn't clear the box i think, makin a commit does though
03:44.13Xinhuanpushing is merely "uploading to server"
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03:44.31Xinhuannote that pushing stuff, doesn't make any commit
03:44.34Gnarfozah.
03:44.35Gnarfozok
03:44.55Xinhuanyour git repo on your disk is just as complete as the one on the server
03:45.06Xinhuanwhen you push, you're merely updating whatever is new on your repo to the server side
03:45.29Xinhuanbasically, just uploading commits you already did locally
03:45.43Gnarfozyeah I get the idea
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03:49.00balstorahh drunk wow an lua, what could go wrong ....
03:49.26Xinhuanadding a girl under 16 to that :)
03:49.44balstorthink thats legal here......
03:50.02Brunersits 15 or 16 here
03:50.08Gnarfozis LibStub magically exempt from no-lib-strip btw?
03:50.19balstori imagine yes
03:50.27Gnarfozbecause CBH isn't
03:50.29XinhuanGnarfoz: if you point to a tag, it is included in nolib
03:50.30Gnarfoz^^
03:50.37Xinhuanif you point to mainline, it isn't included in nolib
03:50.45Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r113 modules (3 files in 1 directory):
03:50.46Repoadded color by class back to altnames. changed the points where playername blacklists are applied. Load all the guild members at startup (for now at least)
03:50.56Gnarfozwhat's the idea behind that?
03:51.02Xinhuanits a bug
03:51.06Gnarfozoh.
03:51.07Gnarfoz:P
03:54.34Gnarfozdo I have to supply the target URL each time when pushing?
03:55.04Xinhuanshouldn't have to
03:55.07Repo10monkeytoggler: 038tImER 07master * f4b8196 MonkeyToggler.toc: [+1 commit] change version keywords
03:55.19Xinhuanonly the first time i think
03:55.22Gnarfozhuh
03:55.27Gnarfozhow did that go through
03:55.45Gnarfozah
03:55.48Gnarfozok
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03:56.05Xinhuanthe url you push to should be stored in .git/config
03:56.05Gnarfozso it pushed the commit and left the tag out
03:56.13Xinhuanyeah pushes dont push tags
03:56.17Xinhuanunless you add --tags
03:56.18Gnarfozbecause git gui seems to not use -a
03:56.24Gnarfozno it tried
03:56.27Gnarfozbut hooks rejected it
03:56.39Xinhuanyou need to create a tag with the -a option
03:56.50Gnarfozyeah, I created one with gitk
03:56.54Xinhuanremember i gave you an example just now
03:56.55Gnarfozwhich doesn't seem to do that
03:56.56Xinhuangit tag -a -m "Tagging as v1.0" v1.0
03:56.58Gnarfozyeah =)
03:57.29Xinhuanwell you can delete your unannotated tag for now
03:57.38Xinhuanwith git tag -d <tagname>
03:57.46Xinhuanand recreate your tag
03:59.19Xinhuanan annotated tag has a "message" attached to it
03:59.51Xinhuanso tags can be handy in the sense that you can have unannotated ones locally for your own use
03:59.58Gnarfozdoes that imply that I don't have to commit a tag
03:59.59Gnarfoz?
04:00.10Xinhuanand the server doesn't ever see these personal tags
04:00.13Xinhuanyou do
04:00.17Xinhuanyou still have to push tags
04:00.28Gnarfozthen I wonder why it tried to push the tag at all, I didn't commit
04:00.32Gnarfozor maybe gitk did for me
04:00.44Xinhuancreating a tag just creates a "tag object"
04:00.59Xinhuanthe server wont know about it until you "push tags" along with "push commits"
04:01.12balstoris there a replacement for LibSharedMedia-3.0 or is it still the one to use?
04:01.20Xinhuanstill the one to use
04:01.26balstorthanks
04:01.46balstorACE-3.0 is still kicking my ass somewhat, need more whiskey
04:01.59Torhalbalstor, you mean Ace3?
04:02.01Torhal:D
04:02.14balstorniw where is my hammer.......
04:02.44XinhuanGnarfoz, a tag is basically "something like a commit", but it is not a commit.. it is a tag ;p
04:02.53Gnarfozwell, I did the tag -a -m thing
04:03.00Gnarfozand git status says 'nothing to commit'
04:03.10Xinhuango cli and git push --tags
04:03.23Gnarfozfatal: 'origin': unable to chdir or not a git archive
04:03.27Gnarfozfatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
04:03.29Gnarfoz:\
04:03.44Gnarfozhmmm origin
04:04.01Gnarfozof course no origin because I didn't clone, because cloning an empty repo doesn't work
04:04.17Gnarfoz(that gives *just* the latter line)
04:04.18Xinhuangit remote add origin git://blahblah
04:04.47Repo10monkeytoggler: 038tImER 041.0 * 9df5fde /: [new tag] 1.0 :-)
04:04.49GnarfozI see.
04:05.08Xinhuanall that command does, is make "origin" an alias for the full git:// address
04:05.28Xinhuanso you can use that alias name anywhere instead of the full address
04:05.41Gnarfozand cloning would've taken care of that
04:05.45Xinhuansimilarly, a tag is just an alias for the commit name of 9df5fde
04:05.57Gnarfozyeah I see how it's different from svn
04:06.37Repo10mounted: 03yssaril 07master * v1.3.5-1-g9f49b1d / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] fix CheckDB function
04:06.45Repo10mounted: 03yssaril 04v1.3.6 * 43fa19b /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.3.6
04:07.14Xinhuanv1.3.5-1-g9f49b1d <-- that means 1 commit away from the tag v1.3.5 with the commit id g9f49b1d
04:07.22Xinhuanin case you wonder about the naming
04:07.50GnarfozI was wondering, yes
04:08.12Gnarfozso because he moved on right after tagging, the last reference is that tag
04:08.20Xinhuanya
04:08.25GnarfozI see
04:08.38Yssarilto push tags its git push --tags :P
04:08.48Gnarfozcharon/anmoch did nice work on Repo's git reports, then ;)
04:08.54Xinhuanthe changelog will contain the list of commits up until the previous tag (or initial commit if no tag)
04:09.40Repo10seal-bar: 03Zahmer * r33 / (8 files in 1 directory): Updated toc to 3.03
04:09.41RepoRemoved Crusader Seal
04:09.42RepoAdded Martyr Seal
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04:15.08Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz * r36 / (2 files in 1 directory):
04:15.09RepoAnother try on upgrading, purging, and disabling upgrade on not needed.
04:15.16FroMasterugh.. [2008/11/07 20:12:51-45-x19]: Manufac-2.0.r55252\Manufac.lua:784: Dewdrop-2.0: Bad argument #2 to `Open' (table or string expected, got nil)FuBar-3.0.90012\libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:122: in function <...nterface\AddOns\FuBar\libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:75>(tail call): ?:Dewdrop-2.0-90320 (FuBar):2961: in function `Open'Manufac-2.0.r55252\Manufac.lua:784: in function `OnClick'FuBar2Broker-1.0.2\FuBar2Broker.lua:146: in functio
04:15.19Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r165 / (10 files in 2 directories): - Include changes from coani for TitanTSI
04:15.20Repo- Implement a UIScale option in config panel, UI tab.
04:15.21Repo- TODO: Need two more strings translated to esES, zhCN, and zhTW
04:15.36FroMasterJust when I get one thing working another breaks :(
04:15.50Kaeltenanyone able to get the grayed out bug in onebag?
04:17.00Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys 04v1.1-beta6 * r166 : Tagging as v1.1-beta6
04:18.38balstoranyone had this issue when porting to ACE 3 AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua line 18:   Cannot find a library instance of "AceGUI-3.0".
04:18.54Xinhuancheck loading order
04:18.57Xinhuanof your libs
04:19.20balstorI have aceGUI in front of config one
04:19.42XinhuanLibs\AceGUI-3.0\AceGUI-3.0.xml
04:19.42XinhuanLibs\AceConsole-3.0\AceConsole-3.0.xml
04:19.42XinhuanLibs\AceConfig-3.0\AceConfig-3.0.xml
04:19.43FroMaster~seen dys
04:19.46purldys <n=Adys@APoitiers-257-1-18-90.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowhead, 431d 7h 30m 41s ago, saying: '~ping'.
04:19.46Xinhuanlike that?
04:20.02balstoryhea ,like that
04:20.15Xinhuanyou sure they loaded?
04:20.19Xinhuanand are present?
04:21.16balstorhmmm 11/7 22:17:07.643  Error loading Interface\AddOns\LD50_ap\Libs\AceGUI-3.0\AceGUI-3.0.lua
04:25.33balstorso apparently getting an error in FrameXML.log and no idea why i get the erro
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04:27.12Antiarchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6bFO-qy74M
04:27.22Antiarc<PROTECTED>
04:28.15Gnarfozyoutube
04:28.17GnarfozDIE
04:28.18Gnarfoz:<
04:28.23Gnarfozor at least default to HQ.
04:28.41AntiarcHey it's not my video
04:29.35Gnarfozwhat
04:29.36Gnarfozok
04:29.55GnarfozI just took my headphones off a minute before you linked it so I don't understand what the guy's saying
04:32.32Repo10onebag3: 03Kaelten * r37 / (3 files in 2 directories): few more fixes,  More code to fix remaining issues with the grayed out bags
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04:35.43FroMaster~seen nymbia
04:35.44purlnymbia <n=nymbia@c-67-190-49-185.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 22d 4h 3m 16s ago, saying: 'lUa?'.
04:35.45Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r24 / (5 files in 1 directory): snapshot gui
04:36.31FroMasterDId Nymbia quit playing/
04:36.33FroMaster?*
04:36.34TorhalXinhuan: http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lolsr9.jpg
04:37.04GnarfozTorhal: huh? that's correct
04:37.06TorhalSome goon got on WoWI and started ranting about WoWMatrix
04:37.18TorhalGnarfoz, that's a screenshot of WoWMatrix
04:37.50Gnarfozif you were going to provide context, go ahead ;)
04:38.17Gnarfoz(just didn't see anything particularily special about the screenshot)
04:38.26TorhalJust thought he'd like to know (if he asked for them to be removed) that they're still on that program
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04:40.35Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz * r37 / (2 files in 1 directory): Remove Quixote-1.0, change AddQuest status
04:41.31Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz 043.0.2-release-12 * r38 :
04:41.32RepoHopefully fix upgrading for people. Some tweaks with AddQuest and options.
04:42.29Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz 043.0.2-release-12 * r39 : Removed file/folder
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04:51.54balstorwhat is current interace number?
04:52.17Gnarfoz30000
04:52.27Gnarfoz~wowtoc
04:52.31balstorO
04:52.32Gnarfozhmmm
04:52.39Gnarfoz~toc
04:52.39purlThe current WoW Interface Number is: 30000
04:52.43Gnarfoz!
04:54.53Camciwhats that number? :p
04:54.53Repo10ld50_ap: 03shaten * r37 / (7 files in 2 directories): LD50_ap:
04:54.54Repo- Initial Ace3 version
04:55.19GnarfozCamci: 30000.
04:55.20balstorthe number that goes into the toc to identify capatability
04:55.35balstorI thought the recent small patch had bumbed it
04:55.45Gnarfozno
04:55.56balstorwill one aaddon converted to Acce3 3 more to go
04:57.35Repo10ld50_ap: 03shaten 04beta 3.2 * r38 : Tagging as beta 3.2
04:57.57FroMasterugh.. I wish this made sense...
04:58.00Torhalbalstor, WoW's versioning scheme is Version.Major.Minor
04:58.12TorhalWhere Version is 3, major version is 0, minor is 3
04:58.23TorhalThe TOC only changes on Major versions
04:58.40Gnarfozit changes on incompatibility, I hope :D
04:58.41TorhalSo 3.1.3 would be 30100
04:58.59TorhalMinor versions are usually only bugfix versions.
04:59.33Gnarfozmy point stands.
04:59.34Gnarfoz;)
04:59.46balstoryhea but they should still update the toc nu,ber shrug
05:01.14Torhalbalstor, 3.0.3 didn't change any API from 3.0.2, so there's no reason to change the TOC
05:01.44Repo10adavak: 03ananhaid 07master * f67fcb1 Skinner/Localisations.lua: [+1 commit] update to b1.9183.1
05:01.56TorhalWhy make all the addon authors update their addons for a version change that will NOT affect their code? :)
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05:04.45balstorcause the version changed
05:06.07Brunersas a sign that the addon infact is working with the new version
05:06.53Repo10lib-st: 03ddumont * r47 Core.lua:
05:06.54RepoFixed OnLeave event bug when setting data in a table from a full table to an empty one.
05:08.22AntiarcWeren't we getting coordinates back in instances at one point?
05:08.34Xinhuanthey removed it again
05:08.39AntiarcSad
05:08.52AntiarcI was going to make a "highlight your targeted party member blip" for hudmap
05:10.34AntiarcWould be nice to see a top-down "this is where that person is"
05:10.41AntiarcFor getting to people who are out of range
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05:13.03Antiarchttp://i37.tinypic.com/ziu96x.jpg
05:13.36NeffiAre there any working action bar addons that don't use Blizz's action IDs?
05:13.44NeffiBesides Macaroon..
05:14.06balstordid Ace3 change the way to register events???
05:14.12Xinhuanbalstor: no
05:14.36balstorbitch why is it not updateing grumble bitch grumble
05:14.43Xinhuanonly difference is you can no longer trigger a blizzard event, and custom events are using SendMessage() and RegisterMessage()
05:14.59NeffiAntiarc: That looks interesting. Working on a mod?
05:15.07Xinhuanalso balstor, the first arg passed is the event name
05:15.13Xinhuanthat's "new" in ace3
05:15.26Xinhuanso you can have multiple events use the same function
05:15.28balstorthat would do it
05:15.42Xinhuansay self:RegisterEvent("UNIT_PET", "UpdateStuff")
05:15.47Xinhuansay self:RegisterEvent("UNIT_NAME", "UpdateStuff")
05:15.59Xinhuanand blah:UpdateStuff(event, arg1, arg2)
05:16.43balstoryhea I'm expecting UnitID as the argu,ent so need to go pad some dummy args
05:16.57Xinhuanjust pad it with "event"
05:17.01Xinhuanlike i put there
05:17.02NeffiDoes InfiniBar work with 3.0?
05:17.07balstorthanks Xinhuan this migration from ace2 to ace3 has been non-fun
05:17.23Xinhuandunno balstor, but its been easy for me
05:17.27TorhalWriting from scratch FTW.
05:17.47Xinhuanpossibly because i almost always do :(...)
05:17.49Xinhuanand print(..)
05:17.51Xinhuanand print(...)
05:17.51FroMasterTorhal: If only writing from scratch was that easy :)
05:17.55Xinhuanjust to see what got passed in
05:18.21TorhalFroMaster: Doesn't have to not be :)
05:18.40FroMasterI'm trying to hack a 2.4 mod to work in 3.x but I can't even figure out where to start... too many in function references for me to follow :)
05:18.47Xinhuanwhen i converted Routes from Rock to Ace3, it took 2 days
05:18.52Xinhuanthat's a 3000 line addon ;p
05:19.21balstorI have all those print statements in there (had to uncomment) it's just been annoyingly small bugs consumeing time
05:19.25FroMasterXinhuan: Maybe I should be getting your help then.. you make it sounds soo simple...
05:19.47Xinhuanwhen in doubt, print the args ;p
05:19.50TorhalPractice makes nearly perfect.
05:20.06Xinhuansee, i WANT to convert postal from ace2 to ace3
05:20.16Xinhuanbut to do that, i have to drop dewdroplib, and use UIDropdownMenu
05:20.18Xinhuanand it WILL taint
05:20.21XinhuanUseFocus()
05:20.24FroMasterIf I knew where to put the print statement then I would.
05:20.26Xinhuanbecause the menus are pretty big
05:20.35balstorI stillhave one last thig to do which is code up a profile panel for the options area, not 100% sure how I want that to look yet
05:21.18AntiarcNeffi: That's the HudMap module in SexyMap
05:21.21Repo10ld50_ap: 03shaten * r39 Core.lua: LD50_ap:
05:21.22Repo- fixed a event arg (new one)
05:22.33NeffiSo uh.. Macaroon's the only 3.0 action bar that doesn't use action IDs?
05:22.56balstoryhea flexbar4.0 isn't happening till january
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05:23.12NeffiWell fuck
05:23.40balstorwhy?
05:24.26NeffiTrying to set up keybindings in a UI without action bars. Direct bind addons don't support druid forms (SpellBinder's fucked anyway). Macaroon worked beautifully, until its binding module decided to fuck itself.
05:24.49NeffiI can't contain druid binds within the 120 limit of action IDs, so BT4 won't work
05:25.58NeffiI guess I'll go back to making a separate macro for every single key. Druids are so fucking hard on UIs.
05:26.04Ackislua> select(3,string.find("item:6666", "\124H%w+:(%d+):"))
05:26.04lua_botAckis: No output
05:26.15Ackislua> select(3,string.find("item:6666", "|H%w+:(%d+):"))
05:26.15lua_botAckis: No output
05:26.20Ackislua> select(3,string.find("item:6666", "|h%w+:(%d+):"))
05:26.21lua_botAckis: No output
05:26.37Neffilua> return select(3,string.find("item:6666", "|h%w+:(%d+):"))
05:26.37lua_botNeffi: No output
05:26.42balstorhmm i can understand your pain Neffi
05:27.16NeffiAckis: You don't have an |h in the first arg of find
05:27.20Ackislua> select(3,string.find("|cff9d9d9d|Hitem:7073:0:0:0:0:0:0:0|h[Broken Fang]|h|r
05:27.20Ackis", "|h%w+:(%d+):"))
05:27.21lua_botAckis: luabot:1: unfinished string near '<eof>'
05:27.32Ackislua> select(3,string.find("|cff9d9d9d|Hitem:7073:0:0:0:0:0:0:0|h[Broken Fang]|h|r", "|h%w+:(%d+):"))
05:27.32lua_botAckis: No output
05:27.36Ackiswtf
05:27.45Neffi|H ~= |h
05:27.47Ackislua> select(3,string.find("|cff9d9d9d|Hitem:7073:0:0:0:0:0:0:0|h[Broken Fang]|h|r", "|H%w+:(%d+):"))
05:27.47lua_botAckis: 7073
05:27.52Ackisbah I thought I changed that
05:28.14NeffiUmm
05:28.24NeffiWhy are you using select(3,find(...))?
05:28.29NeffiJust use string.match
05:28.40Ackiseh what's the diff?
05:28.43Neffilua> string.match("|cff9d9d9d|Hitem:7073:0:0:0:0:0:0:0|h[Broken Fang]|h|r", "|H%w+:(%d+):")
05:28.43lua_botNeffi: 7073
05:28.50NeffiDoesn't return the position, just the matched part
05:29.07NeffiSave the call to select() and/or discarded returns
05:30.31Ackisthat pattern should work for enchant/spell links too right?
05:30.38NeffiYes
05:30.47NeffiThey just replace "item:" with "spell:"
05:30.57Ackisyah having issues with that
05:31.22Repo10nobility-console: 03ciscoh * r60 GuildManagementTools (4 files in 2 directories): cleanup
05:31.38Neffisec
05:32.19NeffiYeah, it's |Hspell:(%d+)
05:32.21NeffiFor spells
05:32.29Ackisprintable = gsub(link, "\124", "\124\124");
05:32.32Ackisdamn
05:32.34NeffiYour %w+ should work. Check the rest of your code.
05:33.44Ackisreturn smatch(SpellLink, "|H%w+:(%d+):")
05:33.47Ackisthat's my code :P
05:34.03Ackisand I have a local smatch = string.match somewhere too
05:34.55Groktarwoot!
05:34.59Groktari found it
05:35.18Groktari thought i had thrown it away, but it turned out to be in the bottom of my hamper
05:35.25TorhalGroktar: My briefcase full of $100 bills?
05:35.31Groktaro
05:35.38Groktarmy old dvd burner
05:35.52Torhal...in your dirty clothes...
05:35.56Torhalscratches his head.
05:35.59Groktar:D
05:36.05Groktari'm sure it's in working order!
05:36.35Ackislua> select(3,string.find("|cffffd000|Henchant:35750|h[Mining: Earth Shatter]|h|r", "|H%w+:(%d+):"))
05:36.36lua_botAckis: No output
05:37.05Ackislua> select(3,string.find("|cffffd000|Henchant:35750|h[Mining: Earth Shatter]|h|r", "|H%w+:(%d+)"))
05:37.06lua_botAckis: 35750
05:38.03NeffiYou could make that faster
05:38.11Groktarthere's a big brown stain on top
05:38.30Torhal<PROTECTED>
05:38.36doom0rthe hamper or the dvd burner?
05:38.39Neffimatch("^|c%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x|H%w+:(%d+)",...)
05:38.39AckisNeffi: I know, I just was lazy for copy and paste
05:38.44NeffiThat'll match faster
05:38.45Shadowedvithos_: pong
05:39.02AckisNeffi: how much faster?
05:39.09NeffiProbably not much.  lol
05:39.10vithos_Shadowed: i posted on http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7175#comments
05:39.11NeffiBut faster.
05:39.23AckisNeffi: yah not worth it, this one is easy to read
05:39.24NeffiLocking it to the beginning saves a lot of checking
05:39.33Repo10ld50_ap: 03shaten * r40 Core.lua: LD50_ap:
05:39.34Repo- removed some commented out Ace2 code
05:39.34Repo- Fixed options so it calls up the General tab
05:39.47NeffiProbably about the same speedup as using a local cached reference instead of a raw global  >.>
05:40.13TorhalI prefer cooked globals.
05:40.16Ackis*sigh* :P that will work with items/enchants/spells then? :P
05:40.25Neffi>>
05:40.27NeffiYours should
05:40.33NeffiIt has to be some other part of the code
05:40.49Ackisyah mine works now
05:40.55NeffiYou sure "SpellLink" is a spell link?
05:40.57Ackisit was that extra : at the end that was fucking me up
05:41.03NeffiOh
05:41.11AckisSpellLink will be an enchant link or a spell link
05:41.26NeffiThey're all the same, just a different match on %w+
05:41.49Ackislua> string.match("|cffffd000|Henchant:35750|h[Mining: Earth Shatter]|h|r", "^|c%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x|H%w+:(%d+)")
05:41.49lua_botAckis: 35750
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05:43.14NeffiY'know, it probably is better to just use the original code. It won't really match much faster.
05:43.20NeffiAnd it's terrible for readability
05:43.23doom0rwhat's the point of .. being right associative?
05:44.08Ackiseh it's changed already Neffi... any way to speed up: smatch(GetSpellLink(spellName), "spell:(%d+)") :P
05:44.54NeffiMatch the string all the way to the front, and not just the part you need.
05:45.09NeffiLock it with ^ to avoid multiple re-matches C-side
05:45.44Ackisso: smatch(GetSpellLink(spellName), "^|c%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x|Hspell:(%d+)") :P
05:45.48NeffiI'd imagine you'll never actually see a notable speedup. But it's "technically" faster.
05:46.19Ackisit's happening 400 times at most so it might help
05:46.57NeffiThe way the PIL explained it, it should cut down the behind-the-scenes checks on the string
05:48.04NeffiFuck
05:48.12Neffi"The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an invalid or unsupported form of compression."  Hmm
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05:52.54NeffiAckis: From the PIL:
05:52.56NeffiUsually, pattern matching is efficient enough for Lua programs: A Pentium 333MHz (which is not a fast machine by today's standards) takes less than a tenth of a second to match all words in a text with 200K characters (30K words). But you can take precautions. You should always make the pattern as specific as possible; loose patterns are slower than specific ones. An extreme example is...
05:52.57Neffi...'(.-)%$', to get all text in a string up to the first dollar sign. If the subject string has a dollar sign, everything goes fine; but suppose that the string does not contain any dollar signs. The algorithm will first try to match the pattern starting at the first position of the string. It will go through all the string, looking for a dollar. When the string ends, the pattern fails for...
05:52.59Neffi...the first position of the string. Then, the algorithm will do the whole search again, starting at the second position of the string, only to discover that the pattern does not match there, too; and so on. This will take a quadratic time, which results in more than three hours in a Pentium 333MHz for a string with 200K characters. You can correct this problem simply by anchoring the...
05:53.02Neffi...pattern at the first position of the string, with '^(.-)%$'. The anchor tells the algorithm to stop the search if it cannot find a match at the first position. With the anchor, the pattern runs in less than a tenth of a second.
05:53.19NeffiHence, I try to restrict my patterns as much as possible
05:53.31Ackisfair enough
05:53.57NeffiWith a string as small as what you're dealing with, I doubt it'll mean much though. I'm just anal about random things.
05:54.18Ackismicro-optimization is the best!
05:58.54YssarilAntiarc: <3 HudMap
06:00.06NeffiIs there any way to retrieve the blip texture from the minimap?
06:00.14XinhuanNeffi: no
06:00.28NeffiWell that's annoying
06:00.32NeffiReally annoying
06:00.38AntiarcYssaril: Glad you like it :D
06:00.40Xinhuanits designed that way for anti-botting
06:00.45AntiarcNeffi: You can change blip textures though
06:00.47Xinhuanno addon can detect them
06:00.50AntiarcYou can't detect when they show up though
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06:01.14NeffiAntiarc: Yes, but what about addons like TomTom? It would be nice to be able to match the user's preferred textures.
06:01.28AntiarcYou can replace blips, yes
06:01.29YssarilAntiarc: anyway to make it square and fill up the whole screen?
06:01.39NeffiAnd Xinhuan, I can't see that being exploitable. The texture as passed to SetBlipTexture wouldn't help a bot.
06:01.51Xinhuani was talking about detecting blips
06:01.52AntiarcYou could make it square, but you couldn't make it fill the whole screen unless you run a square aspect ratio :P
06:01.56Xinhuannot about changing their texture
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06:02.09YssarilAntiarc: just have it go outside the screen?
06:02.10Xinhuanchnaging texture is easy
06:02.21NeffiBut I was talking about checking the texture, not the blips themselves
06:02.34NeffiA :GetBlipTexture() to the current :Set...
06:02.38Xinhuanwell you were ambiguous ;p
06:02.58Xinhuan"<Neffi> Is there any way to retrieve the blip texture from the minimap? " could mean detecting when they appear
06:03.45NeffiYssaril: The minimap won't render any part that's off the screen. Instead, it gets squished down to fit the screen, resulting in poor geometry.
06:04.01YssarilNeffi: ahh (that sucks)
06:04.26Arrowmasterneed GoW2 coop partner, act3 chapter4 hardcore
06:04.26NeffiAnd because of the AA that goes into the texture files, using a mask texture that matches your screen would appear to fade towards the top and bottom.
06:04.32StanzillaAckis: got my pastey?
06:04.35XinhuanAntiarc, did you change GetMinimapShape() return value as suggested? :p
06:04.43Ackis|cff71d5ff|Hspell:26442|h[Firework Launcher]|h|r vs |cffffd000|Henchant:26442|h[Engineering: Firework Launcher]|h|r
06:04.44Xinhuanfor the hudmap to "ROUND"
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06:05.05AntiarcXinhuan: Yes, I don't think I committed it yet though
06:05.20Ackisis there an api function to convert a spell link to an enchant link at all?
06:05.39Ackisa simple gsub of the colour/enchant won't do it completely
06:06.00NeffiAre they the same ID?
06:06.02YssarilAckis: i dont thinkyou can since the enchantspell ~= the number you get on the itemlink
06:06.26Xinhuanyou will need a enchantID - itemlinkenchantid table to convert
06:06.29AckisNeffi: the spell IDs are the same ie: enchant id == spell ID
06:06.44AckisXinhuan: that's what I was thinking
06:06.45NeffiAckis: Then changing the color/name will work
06:06.59Xinhuani have this super huge table in wowequip lol
06:07.03Xinhuanthat converts them
06:07.15NeffiYou HAVE to change the name if you send the link through the chat. The server validates link names.
06:07.19AckisNeffi: I'd have to change Firework Launcher to Engineering: Firework Launcher
06:07.31Ackisand that's not somethign I think I want to do
06:08.46balstorXinhuan copyimng some omen code any idea why values = AceGUIWidgetLSMlists.font, is giving me a    AceConfigRegistry-3.0:ValidateOptionsTable(): LD50_ap.args.scale.passValue: unknown parameter
06:09.14Xinhuanno idea
06:09.25Xinhuandid you load AceGUIWidgetLSM library ?
06:09.45balstorumm wait i din't restart aop after adding al ibrary doooh
06:09.54AntiarcHas anyone done any innovative non-boring UnitFrames?
06:10.04AntiarcPitbull is super functional, but really, quite dull visually
06:10.18NeffiI disagree
06:10.26balstorgoing to copy omens profile code next :) start the xerox machine !!!!!
06:10.30NeffiIt just takes tons of config and a creative head to get it to look half-decent
06:10.48Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1045 AckisRecipeList.lua: Ackis Recipe List:
06:10.48Antiarcsee, if I'm gonna do tons of config, I'll just write my own >_>
06:10.48Repo- Optimized search strings (Thanks Neffi, I'll have your man babies now)
06:10.49Repo- Fixed bug that was causing it to fail
06:10.50XinhuanAntiarc: its interesting how omen is becoming the source to copy code from ;p
06:10.51Repo- Make the enchant link a spell link again.. it's a different colour than the enchant link but provides the same info without issue
06:10.51AntiarcWhich I'm tempted to do
06:11.02AntiarcXinhuan: It's been that way for a while! <_<
06:11.05YssarilXinhuan: wtb LDB support for routes
06:11.12Ackis@project arl
06:11.12RepoAckis: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Leader: Ackis. Authors: Jim-Bim, Zhinjio. Updated: 10 hours ago. Tickets: 13/209
06:11.13NeffiAntiarc: I know what you mean  lol
06:11.20XinhuanYssaril, can't you write one
06:11.24NeffiI wish PitBull's config was easier.
06:11.40Xinhuanthing is, omen is on full copyright atm ;p no liscense hehe
06:11.56balstorXinhuan it's cause it isn't 50 levels deep of crap just to get an option panel up
06:12.17AckisXinhuan: doesn't no license mean no copyright? :P heheh
06:12.26YssarilXinhuan: i could maybe though you could do it better :p
06:12.40Xinhuanbalstor: you'll find it funny that 1/2 of omen's code is really config code and tables
06:12.42NeffiAckis: No license means full copyright. At least in america.
06:12.56AckisNeffi: just giving him a hard time
06:12.58Xinhuanwithout the config code/tables, omen uses 81 kb of ram
06:12.59balstoryhea a lot of my code ends up like that :)
06:13.03Ackishe knows about my license issues =/
06:13.04Neffilol
06:13.07Xinhuanwith the config tables, its 210 kb
06:13.08Xinhuan~_~
06:13.09purlSTOP DOING THAT!
06:13.52AckisARL uses 4.05 MB of ram :D
06:13.53Neffihaha
06:13.53Neffi~_~
06:13.53purlSTOP DOING THAT!
06:13.53XinhuanAtlasloot uses 4.35 mb
06:13.53Xinhuanhuger database
06:13.53Xinhuanbut not much more ram
06:13.53AntiarcTexBrowser uses 13mb
06:13.54Antiarc:V
06:13.54Ackisarl has a more detailed database
06:13.59Antiarc:V
06:14.04NeffiTexBrowser?
06:14.08AntiarcWhat procced purl?
06:14.14Xinhuan:V
06:14.16NeffiI did
06:14.20Antiarc@project texbrowser
06:14.21RepoAntiarc: http://www.wowace.com/projects/texbrowser/. TexBrowser. Game: WoW. Leader: Antiarc. Updated: 2 days ago
06:14.27Neffi"~_~" Just delayed I think
06:14.30Zyndrome~
06:14.41AckisI'm at 2.28 MB w/o running a scan... need to make my db LoD
06:14.53Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz 043.0.2-release-12 * r40 : made a copy
06:14.56NeffiDoes it contain a full DB of all game textures?
06:14.57balstorfound it forgot to upgrade my embeds.xml file
06:16.14Xinhuanbalstor, i suggest you get rid of embeds.xml
06:16.19Xinhuanand just load them directly
06:16.21Xinhuanfrom the TOC
06:16.48NeffiTOC standard -> embeds.xml standard -> TOC?
06:16.55NeffiWhy did people ever use embeds.xml anyway?
06:16.55balstorwhile i don't deny your argument i got it now and to laxy to remove it
06:16.59Xinhuanembeds.xml was a WAU only thing
06:17.31Xinhuanyou can use #@no-lib-strip@ and #@end-no-lib-strip@ in the TOC now to strip out text for a nolib version
06:17.34Xinhuanin the TOC
06:17.40Xinhuanso if yu think about it, you would be doing
06:17.45Xinhuan#@no-lib-strip@
06:17.47Xinhuanembeds.xml
06:17.48Xinhuan#@end-no-lib-strip@
06:18.04Xinhuanso you might as well have just put the whole embeds.xml file in the tOC directly
06:18.47Xinhuanand more importantly, you won't have to worry about using <Script> or <Include> tags, and one less file to load == better
06:19.18NeffiWill a "#" work for an inline comment in .toc files?
06:19.23Xinhuanyes
06:19.43NeffiSo, " ## Title: test # this part's invisible " is valid?
06:19.49Xinhuannot sure
06:19.56Xinhuanjust put comments on a new line by itself prefixed with #
06:20.12NeffiI usually do. But I like to keep files clean.
06:20.21Xinhuantest it and tell us ;p
06:20.31NeffiNow you assume I'm not a lazy ass
06:20.35Neffi:p
06:20.46YssarilAntiarc: hmm HudMap isn't showing routes any idea why? routes show up when i turn of HudMap (also Gathermate nodes show up just fine)
06:20.58AntiarcYou have to get a new version of routes
06:21.03AntiarcIt's not tagged as a beta yet
06:21.08AntiarcSo you'll have to download it from wowace directly
06:21.19Xinhuani am busy farming goblin rep
06:21.23YssarilAH
06:21.26Xinhuanhence i can't verify that it works fully yet ;p
06:21.29Xinhuanbefore i tag it
06:21.38Xinhuan20643/21000
06:21.58Stanzillayou killed your rep for bloodsail?
06:22.03Xinhuanya
06:22.07Stanzillanice :D
06:22.08Zyndromehah, this keylogger-bot is busy, posting in pretty much every thread there is :p
06:22.22Xinhuanwhat forum
06:23.01ZyndromeEU forums
06:23.52NeffiHe's key-hungry   =/
06:24.01XinhuanAntiarc, so what kind of revolunary unit frames are you thinking about
06:24.06AntiarcI dunno
06:24.08AntiarcJust something not-boring
06:24.21YssarilAntiarc: btw why dosn't HudMap work with current Routes?
06:24.46XinhuanYssaril, because ROutes wasn't designed with multiple minimap sin mind ;p
06:24.58Xinhuanbut gathermate was
06:25.03Yssarilah
06:25.08Xinhuanso gathermate has an API to allow easy reparenting
06:25.15Xinhuanand routes didn't
06:25.20NeffiPitBull was pretty not-boring when it first came out. =/
06:26.04NeffiThe only thing I could ask for that Pit doesn't provide is the ability to reposition and rescale every single element by exact values. I hate its auto-positioning for texts and bars.
06:26.06AntiarcBecause the current Routes didn't account for scaled minimaps >_>
06:26.08NeffiAnd of course better config
06:26.38XinhuanAntiarc, it did, in a way, byallowing configurable widths .. but not multiple minimaps lol
06:26.47Antiarcwell yeah >_>
06:27.53NeffiXinhuan: That's one thing I hate. It should check the scale of the minimap. I have a script to make the minimap super huge while I farm, and I need to re-adjust Routes when I do that.
06:28.16XinhuanNeffi, the latest alpha now does blah/Minimap:GetScale()
06:28.21Xinhuanto account for it
06:28.34NeffiAh, okay
06:29.28Xinhuanw00t 35 exalted factions complete
06:30.15Xinhuan38 i mean
06:32.17HjalteDoes anyone have some of the texture used in Crow Butterfly UI? I can't find it anywhere on the internet anymore :<
06:33.11ZhinjioGood evening, folks.
06:35.10HjalteGood morning, Zhinjio.
06:36.21Ackishaha I have old ironjaw :D
06:36.47Ackisold crafty and old ironjaw = MINE
06:37.57Xinhuanold ;p
06:38.05Xinhuanbut hey, 38 exalted now
06:38.11Xinhuanand 19 decks in the bank to turn in for darkmoon
06:41.09ZhinjioHow're y'all?
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06:41.47ScoTTie_how much do DMF cards cost to make on your server ?
06:41.52ScoTTie_decks*
06:43.06AntiarcI dunno but I'm buying inscription cards for 20s apiece
06:43.12AntiarcAnd selling decks for 25g apiece
06:43.17Xinhuanabout 20g each
06:43.26XinhuanAntiarc: the buyers are idiots ;p
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06:43.33AntiarcYes, they are
06:43.59AntiarcAnd I'll use their money buy my alts epic mounts gladly
06:44.56ScoTTie_20g ;\
06:45.18ScoTTie_even the old cards are over 100-150 on my server
06:45.34Xinhuanwell i still have 100k gold ;p
06:45.38ScoTTie_-_-
06:45.44Xinhuani've spent some 10k gold on dmf cards already
06:45.52Xinhuani estimate a total spending of 25k gold for this exalted
06:46.08ScoTTie_wow ..
06:46.52ScoTTie_got ravenholdt exalted? :P
06:49.38Xinhuanravenholdt is one of the easier ones
06:50.17Xinhuanthe hardest ones were wintersaber, 4 goblin reps, and warsong gulch (but then again, WSG exalted was really a byproduct of rank 14 grind)
06:50.54vithos_when did you do wintersaber?
06:51.00Xinhuan3 years ago
06:51.05vithos_ouch
06:52.30Xinhuanscarab lord grind -> wintersaber -> rank 14 -> finish up wintersaber
06:53.06Xinhuanwith ravenholdt, all you need is to kill 21000 mobs from neutral to revered in hillsbrad
06:53.17Xinhuanthen pickpocket 1400 lockboxes in AV with a rogue in the north cave
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06:56.03Xinhuanyou can average about 300-400 kills per hour typically, before you get bored ;p
06:56.11Xinhuanjust set a goal, say 1% per day (420 kills)
06:59.05NeffiFucking hell
06:59.49NeffiWhy the hell do quests even take you into caves? My retard partner gets me killed, and we're in a spot where we can't rez without chain-aggroing 10+ mobs.
07:00.03NeffiCaves really, really fucking punish fuck-ups
07:00.19Xinhuanit sounds like you are doing a quest that is higher lvl than you are
07:00.25Xinhuanyou could return when you are more powerful
07:00.29NeffiNot even close
07:00.37NeffiRelics of Wakening. Easy as pie quest.
07:00.58NeffiThe mobs are lined up in such a way that I pull mobs 60 yards away 'cause they chain aggro. :(
07:01.05Xinhuani don't know of any cave where rezzing would pull 10+ mobs :o
07:01.31NeffiNever happened before today. But it's fucking annoying.
07:05.15Groktarreleases the murlocs
07:05.54RaydenUi hope there are some ridiculously populated areas in wrath
07:06.02RaydenUfor farming tons of guys later on
07:06.12RaydenUright now i can't find enough mobs for my bear to fight
07:06.28RaydenUi want to sit for 10 minutes and do nothing but click swipe
07:07.29Xinhuanclicker
07:07.41Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r120 core.lua: oops, don't put a nil check there
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07:08.49Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 04v6.0.6 release * r121 :
07:08.50RepoTagging as v6.0.6 release. Table fixes and a bad nil check removed.
07:09.42Repo10lib-st: 03ddumont * r48 Core.lua:
07:09.42RepoReally strange hiding behavior for some scrolling tables when hidden, the scrollframe still hides...
07:12.02NeffiRaydenU: Instances maybe? >>
07:14.54AckisXinhuan: do you have the read the books achievement?
07:14.59Xinhuanya
07:15.04Repo10cryolysis3: 03Paene * r80 / (2 files in 2 directories):
07:15.04RepoFixed another mount button hearthstone bug...srsly, who doesn't carry a hearthstone with them...
07:15.42Xinhuani destroy my hearthstone sometimes ;p
07:18.20Zhinjiomy shammy doesn't
07:19.26Xinhuanyou know what wow needs?
07:19.30Xinhuana floo network
07:20.01durcyn..huh
07:21.27doom0r.... wow http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/07/honda_walker_exoskeleton/
07:22.30Xinhuanhttp://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Floo_Network
07:22.30Xinhuan;p
07:25.00Ackiswhat level do you have to be to zone into scholo?
07:25.47Ackis@project arl
07:25.47RepoAckis: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Leader: Ackis. Authors: Jim-Bim, Zhinjio. Updated: 74 minutes ago. Tickets: 12/209
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07:33.14doom0ranyone got 600 usd i can have? http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/10/30/gold_usb_drive/
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07:41.48Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1725 / (28 files in 7 directories):
07:41.48RepoStarted adding Inscription, made the WotLK Atlas the compatible build.
07:44.48Xinhuan@project chinchilla
07:44.50RepoXinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/chinchilla/. Chinchilla. Game: WoW. Leader: ckknight. Updated: 19 days ago. Tickets: 10/11
07:45.24Yssaril@project routes
07:45.24RepoYssaril: http://www.wowace.com/projects/routes/. Routes. Game: WoW. Leader: Xinhuan. Author: grum. Updated: 5 hours ago
07:47.15Yssarilrepo should return last release version last beta and last alpha imo
07:47.22Repo10dgks: 03leech * r86 dgks.lua: dgks:4: Fixed errors while changing emote message.
07:48.56Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz 043.0.2-release-13 * r41 : made a copy
07:50.36Yssarilis there a lenght limit to lua strings?
07:51.31NeffiYssaril: I don't believe so. I've generate strings up to a couple hundred megs before just to see what would happen.
07:51.50doom0rFrom PIL: A string may contain a single letter or an entire book. Lua handles long strings quite efficiently. Programs that manipulate strings with 100K or 1M characters are not unusual in Lua.
07:51.51Repo10lib-st: 03ddumont * r49 Core.lua: new scrollbar look
07:52.28Yssarildoom0r: thanks
07:52.29Repo10lib-st: 03ddumont 04v1.1beta * r50 : bugfixes, enhancements, and style changes
07:58.25AckisXinhuan: you're an explorer right?
07:58.28Ackisin wow
07:58.38Repo10chinchilla: 03Xinhuan * r189 Expander/Expander.lua:
07:58.38Xinhuanwhat do you mean explorer
07:58.38RepoAdd Routes re-parenting support to the Expander module (in addition to GatherMate)
07:58.46Ackisgoing to weird areas, etc
07:58.51Xinhuansort of
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07:59.06Ackisdo you know the town in the wetlands on the mountains? the dwarf town?
07:59.23doom0rthe one on the way to arathi?
07:59.31doom0rgrim batol or something?
07:59.45nevcairielgrim batol is a draon town
07:59.55Ackisno it's in the mountains... untextured shit and whatnot
08:00.01nevcairielDun Modr
08:00.03Xinhuanwhat about it
08:00.07leech2kbetween if and menethil?
08:00.26Ackisaye
08:00.38Ackisthere's a pass from it to dun morogh that goes no where
08:00.49doom0rthe airport?
08:00.49Xinhuani highly suggest you don't jump
08:00.51nevcairielthe airstrip?
08:00.59doom0ror the farms below that?
08:01.03Xinhuanbecause you will need a bg queue to get rezzed if you do
08:01.03AckisXinhuan: I jumped...
08:01.04leech2kcan u get to that town thing?
08:01.12NeffiXinhuan: Ever been on top of the warehouse in SW Harbor?
08:01.23Xinhuanyes neffi
08:01.26Xinhuanand also under SW
08:01.28doom0ri've been under SW ;x
08:01.37NeffiHow about the Hall of Mirrors?
08:01.40doom0rand on both sides of the old portal that did nothing
08:01.50NeffiMini-zone with thousands of invisible walls.
08:01.57Xinhuanlol where
08:02.01NeffiThough I think the invisi-walls got patched out
08:02.30NeffiDuring 1.8 or so, I got stuck trying to navigate the place.. It's between SW and IF, on the way to SW Harbor's roofs. But it's sort of tucked away to the side.
08:02.39NeffiWest of Searing Gorge
08:03.14Repo10routes: 03Xinhuan * r213 / (2 files in 1 directory): Update TOC to v1.2.2. Modify some comments.
08:03.19NeffiOh I got one.. ever been to Atlantis?
08:03.30NeffiThere's a small underwater village at the ocean floor
08:03.35NeffiLike 3 buildings
08:04.01doom0rthere's an island south of the scepter quest island south of tanaris near the edge of the world
08:04.01NeffiIf you make it, the inside of one building is outside of fatigue and doesn't have a breath bar
08:04.08doom0rwith something saying what are you doing here
08:04.19NeffiAtlantis is very close to that island, doom0r
08:04.28NeffiA bit northeast of it
08:04.34doom0ri've had the opportunity to travel everywhere at whim
08:04.34Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r25 / (2 files in 1 directory): moar ui work
08:04.39doom0rincluding gm island and such
08:04.47NeffiAlso, they patched out the hidden message. It no longer askes what you're doing there.
08:04.49doom0rand having onyxia as a pet ;x
08:05.03doom0rshe doesn't path well
08:05.07NeffiEver been to Aszhara Crater -- the unreleased BG?
08:05.24doom0rno, i had trouble getting instances working
08:05.27doom0rleast some of them
08:05.52NeffiI couldn't get them to properly save when people logged out or gameobjects were added. But I could get into them.
08:06.13NeffiYou should explore it. It's an amazing zone. So detailed.
08:06.19doom0rthe best thing was being friendly with every rep
08:06.31Repo10routes: 03Xinhuan * r214 TSP.lua:
08:06.32RepoIncrease the pruning distance from 20% to 30% of zone width, so that there are less chances of a route that crosses itself. (If anyone cares, changing it to 100% will remove pruning on line 313 of TSP.lua, and create routes that will never cross itself, but increase optimization time by more than double)
08:07.00NeffiYeah, I got tired of doing that manually, so I made a script to insta-boost all rep to 999 exalted. Even for hidden factions.
08:07.26NeffiServer died with Wrath's patch though. I'm a sadpanda now.
08:07.40Grumprivate servers?
08:07.44doom0ri dug through all the reps
08:07.45NeffiNo, shhhhh
08:07.50doom0rand manually tabled them
08:07.51Neffi;P
08:08.02NeffiI did it the lazy way
08:08.18doom0rI've been most places on live
08:08.20Repo10ampere: 03Tekkub 07master * 3.0.3.14-Release-1-g0283e77 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+5 commits] (1 truncated)
08:08.21Repo0283e77: Merge commit '3.0.3.14-Release'
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08:08.26Neffifor i = 1,3000 do SendChatMessage(".char setstanding "..i.." 99999999","GUILD") end
08:08.29Repoed7aa1e: Add INTERFACE_VERSION reason
08:08.31Grumdoom0r: i doubt you can get to most of em now
08:08.31doom0rpre 1.9 i walked a lot of walls
08:08.33Repo10ampere: 03Tekkub 043.0.3.14-Release * 8b61574 /: [new tag] Weekly build
08:08.58doom0ri had a lvl 2 with thorium point in 5 mins of creation
08:09.03NeffiYeah I explored almost everything live. Just not the stuff that requires hacks to get to. I was always super paranoid about a GM catching and banning me.
08:09.32nevcairielthey catch and ban you for wall walking to IF airport too, so huh
08:09.37balstoranyone reallyunderstand acedb 3.0 ???
08:10.01doom0rnevcairiel: even pre 1.9 if you got mouthy
08:10.03Neffinevcairiel: I really doubt it. It's harmless fun. They're trying to make money.
08:10.15Repo10dgks: 03leech * r87 dgks.lua: dgks:3:Fixed soundfile custom configuration tab.
08:10.21doom0rno, they have Neffi
08:10.24nevcairielNeffi: they did it before, ban people for going there
08:10.28doom0rdepends on their day and your attitude
08:10.31NeffiHeh
08:10.33Repo10buffet: 03Tekkub 07master * 3.0.3.23-Beta-1-g6141ee6 / (5 files in 1 directory): [+6 commits] (2 truncated)
08:10.33Repo6141ee6: Merge commit '3.0.3.23-Beta'
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08:10.41NeffiI go there on a regular fucking basis   O.o
08:10.42Repo7d69cee: Those argent guys are a bunch of potheads
08:10.46Repo10buffet: 03Tekkub 043.0.3.23-Beta * fbb6bc2 /: [new tag] Weekly build
08:10.53nevcairielI'm sorry for you then =P
08:11.10NeffiI guess if I get banned, I'll have an excuse to quit.  lol
08:11.15leech2kanyone know any small mods that use libsink?
08:11.25balstorI need an acedb3.0 equivalent to this (so i don't loose my data) db_data = LD50_armor:AcquireDBNamespace("LD50_armor_data");
08:11.27Neffileech2k: TopScoreFu
08:11.33leech2kNeffi: thx
08:11.41Yssarilleech2k: YssDarkPact
08:11.53leech2kk
08:11.54Neffileech2k: Also, WitchHunt if you want something that I *know* is up-to-date
08:12.08Fisker-~kiss Fisker-
08:12.09purlACTION forces Fisker- to give Xinhuan a big kiss on the hand
08:12.25leech2kjust looking for a nice libsink example any should work ... I think
08:12.34asmodaiGood morning.
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08:12.41Repoae38419: Merge commit '3.0.3.14-Beta'
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08:13.04Yssarilleech2k: don't use mine its as basic as it'll get though :P
08:14.07Repo10cork: 03Tekkub 07master * 3.0.3.8-Beta-1-g961cd45 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+12 commits] (8 truncated)
08:14.07Repo961cd45: Merge commit '3.0.3.8-Beta'
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08:14.26leech2kI just need to see how to setup the configs for it I have everything working except the settings tab
08:14.48Fisker-discontinues nevcairiel
08:14.53Yssarilleech2k: are you using AceConfig3?
08:15.00leech2kYes
08:15.03Repo10kennel: 03Tekkub 07master * 3.0.3.5-Release-1-gb506bb6 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+4 commits]
08:15.04Repob506bb6: Merge commit '3.0.3.5-Release'
08:15.04leech2kI think...
08:15.05Repo2c43bed: Weekly build 3.0.3.5-Release
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08:15.11Repo4bc7b0b: ruRU subzone
08:15.15Repo10kennel: 03Tekkub 043.0.3.5-Release * b146228 /: [new tag] Weekly build
08:15.18Yssarilself:GetSinkAce3OptionsDataTable() <--
08:15.25leech2kah nice
08:15.48leech2kwaitg
08:16.05nevcairieltek your release mechanism is rather weird .. you do 4 commits in total for one that actually changed something? :D
08:16.06Yssarilyou  need to set self:SetSinkStorage(SV) first though
08:16.19Tekkubyes
08:16.24Tekkubwell, three
08:16.25leech2kYssaril: yes that is the part I am missing
08:16.34leech2kSV is?
08:16.43asmodaisaved variables?
08:16.47Tekkubupdate changelog, update TOC and remove unwanted files, merge
08:16.49Yssaril^^
08:17.30Yssarilleech2k: you can use a saved var directly or some random other table that gets saved
08:17.33TekkubI don't want the second change to actually be in master, but I want to tag the version with the updated TOC and the files I don't want packaged removed
08:19.17Repo10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.2.0-beta1 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Update version in .toc and TODO.txt
08:19.17Repo10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 044.2.0-beta1 * 22a66e3 /: [new tag] Tagging as 4.2.0 Beta1
08:20.08Fisker-no you're weird!
08:20.24Fisker-rages
08:20.43Repo10nutcounter: 03Tekkub 07master * 3.0.3.2-Beta-1-g3f3fb08 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+5 commits] (1 truncated)
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08:31.23theoddone33http://icculus.org/~theoddone33/files/youtube.py yay
08:31.28theoddone33I stole the idea though :(
08:31.42theoddone33pops up youtube vids in mplayer so I don't have to deal with their flash
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08:37.22doom0rwoot, arl didn't lag the hell outta my tradeskill window on open, yay Ackis
08:38.20doom0rooooo, it's nice and smooth now
08:38.55doom0ris impressed
08:39.12doom0rnow if only it'd make the damn recipes drop
08:40.16XinhuanTekkub, why don't you update the changelog at the same time as the actual commit that did the change?
08:40.37Tekkubbecause then the changelog update wouldn't stay in master either
08:40.48Tekkuboh
08:40.56TekkubI read good
08:40.59Xinhuanheh
08:41.07Tekkubbecause I generate the changelog at tagging time
08:41.09Tekkub:P
08:41.31TekkubI don't know if the tag will be beta or release till I make it
08:41.54Tekkubso there would still be a commit at tag time with that info
08:42.01Tekkubwhy not just do it all?
08:42.51Tekkub"Our administrators will be reviewing your project any minute now." LIES
08:43.29Xinhuano_O
08:44.00Xinhuanwell, i do wonder
08:44.14Xinhuanhow wowi admins get notified of new zips to approve
08:44.20Xinhuanbecause it IS damn fast
08:44.31Xinhuanits almost as if they check every 5 min, all of them
08:44.53Tekkub*cough* no comment on WoWI :)
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08:53.33doom0rXinhuan: you know whether or not you can break honored with Alliance?
08:53.48Xinhuanhuh
08:53.54doom0rthe faction
08:54.05Xinhuannot sure what you mean by "break honored"
08:54.13doom0r11999/12000
08:54.19Xinhuanwhy can't you do it?
08:54.32doom0riono, that's what i'm at, not sure it sits there
08:54.55Xinhuango AV and turn in storm crystals
08:54.56doom0ri need one of those quests that give directly to Alliance to find out i guess
08:55.29doom0rthat work even if i'm max with stormpike?
08:55.36Xinhuanyes
08:55.41doom0ri'll give that a shot then
08:55.51doom0rthx
08:56.34doom0r=\ they hard ripped wildhammer out apparently
08:57.11doom0ri know someone that had 3 chars exalted with them and they didn't just hide it
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08:58.48manyis there a bag mod which sorts the content not only by "what is it into slots", but also maybe alphabetically or something to have the same stuff near to each other?
08:59.26asmodaimany: combuctor?
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09:00.02Xinhuandid it work doom0r?
09:00.17doom0rhaven't got a chance, out in blades edge for dailies
09:00.25manymh.
09:00.26manywell
09:00.29manymy problem is
09:00.46manyi have arkinv, and told it to sort everything related to tailoring in slot 6
09:01.01manythese are like 50 items in my bank
09:01.20manyand now i search imbued netherweave, which iam sure i should have, but i dont see it ^^
09:01.44manyand looking at 50 icons may be nice, but for casuals like me it isnt as intuitive as it should be ^^
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09:05.36Repo10magicrunes: 03dhedbor * r12 MagicRunes.lua:
09:05.36Repo- Added two flash warnings when a cooldown is less than the global cooldown (alpha flash and color flash on the bar only).
09:05.37Repo- Added optional gcd-warning alert sound for people that feel like it.
09:05.41Repo- Reorganized configuration pane somewhat and fixed some config option name mistakes.
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09:08.53LexSfXwhy doesn't the latest AtlasLoot have the new honor-purchaseable gear?
09:09.00LexSfXlike Cloak of Certain Reprieve
09:09.26Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03maqjav * r1726 Locales/constants.es.lua: AtlasLoot: esES update
09:09.29LexSfX:D
09:09.34LexSfXhaha, nice timing.
09:17.18Repo10better-inbox: 03Ammo * r78 / (8 files in 2 directories): add better textures by Jaxxom
09:17.29Repo10routes: 03Xinhuan * r215 TSP.lua:
09:17.30RepoAdjust the 2-opt loop slightly so that it will start checking the last 3 nodes in a path by cycling the last 3 nodes on every loop. Also perform a non-pruned 2-opt at the end of optimization. This should fix 99% of created routes that criss-cross each other.
09:18.25Fisker-~kiss Fisker-
09:18.26purlACTION forces Fisker- to give Gngsk a big kiss on the lips
09:19.33Repo10routes: 03Xinhuan * r216 TSP.lua:
09:19.34RepoRemove clearTable() function and just use wipe() introduced in patch 3.0.2
09:23.26Repo10routes: 03Xinhuan * r217 TSP.lua:
09:23.26RepoComment out unused function TSP:GetIntersection(x1, y1, x2, y2, sx, sy, ex, ey)
09:25.54manyoO
09:28.58Repo10routes: 03Xinhuan 04v1.2.2 * r218 : Tag v1.2.2 for release.
09:29.45doom0rXinhuan: I don't spose offhand you happen to have made a list of best/worst case totals for goblin grind doing knot runs?
09:30.00doom0rmats that is
09:30.09Xinhuani just buy from AH as needed
09:30.26Xinhuanrunecloth, youll get more than enough from diremaul itself
09:30.30Xinhuanso its just the
09:30.33Xinhuanleather
09:30.45doom0ri have thousands of runecloth anyways already
09:30.57doom0ri'm a whore
09:31.02doom0r9 chars, 8 mules
09:31.53doom0rit's too bad it gives rep by using him
09:31.59doom0ri'm a tailor =\
09:34.31leech2kIs it possible to output to 2 places with libsink?
09:34.37leech2ksay chat and sct?
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09:37.13doom0rLOL
09:37.16doom0r[Trade] <DND>[Loksphugvm]: Hi, Mate, Due to celebrate our 44th president Obama swept to victory <crapsite> is offering 20% bonus gold with your order Coupon code " B4DE4 " ~1200G=$25 ~~Welcome to ( crapsite )
09:37.28doom0rtake note of the "our"
09:38.02doom0rlet alone no one uses mate in the states
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09:39.15doom0ron that note, what's a configurable spam blocker that'll play nice with chatter?
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09:43.27AntiarcROFL
09:43.33AntiarcAnd another 80g from inscription decks
09:43.37AntiarcThis is like shooting fish in a barrel
09:43.47cladhairehehe
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09:44.36AntiarcI'm buying cards for about 6g
09:44.40AntiarcAnd selling decks for 30g
09:45.11doom0rpeople are selling nexus here for 1g
09:45.16doom0rsmall prismatics are going for 3
09:45.25doom0r:)
09:45.59LexSfXbut do people actually buy small prismatics?
09:46.06Xinhuanso Antiarc, i've pushed a release
09:46.07doom0ryes
09:46.08Xinhuanfor Routes
09:46.12AntiarcXinhuan: Woots
09:46.21AntiarcI'll mark the latest SexyMap beta then
09:46.27Xinhuanand updated some of the routes generation stuff
09:46.38Xinhuanso that it *shouldn't* create anymore routes that cross over itself
09:46.54Xinhuanor at least, have about 10% as much chance as it used to
09:47.11Repo10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * 5a85b36 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add more HudMap options, drop the squareFuzzy blp for an internal blp
09:47.29Xinhuanstatistically speaking, it had a 3/N chance of not detecting a criss-cross
09:47.36Xinhuanwhich was pretty high
09:50.46AntiarcHm
09:50.52AntiarcI guess I should OpDep Routes and Gathermate
09:50.59AntiarcOr those would cause them to load, yes?
09:51.18Xinhuannot really necessary... if your code simply did "if Routes and Routes.ReparentMinimap then..."
09:51.30Xinhuani.e check for their existance whenever the code needs it
09:51.32AntiarcIt does, I'm just worried about it firing that before Routes is loaded, etc
09:51.39AntiarcBut that's not an issue, since you have to manually toggle it on
09:51.41Antiarcso nevermind.
09:51.56Xinhuanit shouldn't matter at all
09:52.10Xinhuanyour option tables shoudl also have
09:52.28Antiarcthey do
09:52.29Xinhuandisabled = function() return not Routes end
09:52.29Antiarc:P
09:53.06Antiarcdisabled = function() return GatherMate == nil end,
09:53.08AntiarcShould do it :)
09:53.35Xinhuansame as "not GatherMate" ;p
09:53.40Antiarcwell yes
09:53.45AntiarcI'm just pasting what I have :P
09:53.48Xinhuani wonder which is more "efficient" hehe
09:55.08AntiarcNot hard to find out :P
09:55.22Fisker-rages
09:55.22Fisker-rawr
09:56.22Antiarc"not foo" is four instructions, foo == nil is seven
09:56.32Xinhuanlol
09:56.38Antiarchttp://pastey.net/101030
09:57.12Xinhuaninstruction count isn't an accurate way though
09:57.27Xinhuanbecause each instruction's execution time is different
09:57.35AntiarcHonestly
09:57.40AntiarcI don't think it really matters :P
09:57.41Xinhuana NOT would execute a whole lot faster than a GETGLOBAL ;p
09:58.12Antiarcboth perform the getglobal, so the question is, is "not" faster than "eq, jmp, loadbool, loadbool"
09:58.18Antiarcto which I'd guess "yes" :P
09:58.47Xinhuanwhy is there even a JMP anyway
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09:59.30AntiarcNo idea.
09:59.32AntiarcThat's kinda odd.
10:00.56LexSfXwould FuBar2Broker work to put FuBar plugins onto TitanPanel?  oooh, yes it would!
10:01.10Xinhuanrofl, LexSfX, i never considered that one
10:01.22Repo10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * 133e99c / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Update localization, add master hudmap alpha slider
10:01.23LexSfXbye bye TitanDurability, hello RepairFu!
10:01.29Xinhuanrofl!
10:01.59Xinhuani dunno, using fubar plugins on titan just tickles me
10:02.05LexSfXlol yeah
10:02.07LexSfXit's funny
10:02.22LexSfXi love everything about Titan except TitanDurability...
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10:02.49Xinhuanwhats wrong with it
10:03.33LexSfXit displays the wrong durability percentage.  it averages all the durability for all the gear in your inventory and equipped, and displays that
10:03.58LexSfXit has a mode to display the lowest durability percentage, but that puts the ENTIRE name of the lowest-durability item on the panel.
10:04.01Xinhuana lot of ppl complained about that i assume?
10:04.07LexSfXno, just me.
10:04.15doom0rlol?
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10:04.36LexSfXi'm the only one who i've ever seen say anything about that
10:05.00LexSfXthough i've not exactly been active about it.
10:09.00doom0rwtb HeightFromGround() to be able to determine when an instant should dismount while flying
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10:09.30Xinhuanlol
10:09.34Xinhuanif they provided tat
10:09.35Antiarcdoom0r: Write a mod that gets you auto-naked if you fall for X seconds without slowfall
10:09.40XinhuanRoutes would work in 3D
10:10.36doom0ri have a bubble
10:10.51doom0rit's protecting accidental hits on instants when you're way high that i would want
10:10.56doom0ri'll live, but the time is gone
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10:15.07LexSfXok, now to see if i can get FuBar_SimplerDurabilityFu to display on TitanPanel...
10:15.18doom0rAntiarc: that would annoy the piss outta me, if i'm falling because of said condition, it's because i'm at the kb
10:15.31Antiarckb?
10:15.36doom0rkeyboard
10:15.48doom0ri dont' see any value in that under those circumstances
10:15.57AntiarcMods are faster than people? :P
10:15.59Xinhuandoom0r, you could also turn off auto dismount ;p
10:16.05Xinhuan/console autoDismount 0
10:16.06doom0rit is off
10:16.11Xinhuanthat's for the land mount one
10:16.22doom0rfor flyer
10:16.24Xinhuanso you can't accidentally right click on a horde when on a mount
10:16.31Xinhuanon isle of q ;p
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10:20.13LexSfXoh...  SimplerDurabilityFu does the bad %-averaging thing too.  :(
10:20.32doom0rLexSfX: DurabilityFu
10:20.34LexSfXwhere's RepairFu?  it used to be so great.
10:20.38doom0rgood ole plain
10:20.53Xinhuanlol
10:20.54doom0rand it has choice on lowest/average
10:20.55Gngskyou just want autorepair?
10:21.00Xinhuanwhy would you ever want to show the average %
10:21.07Xinhuansounds so silly
10:21.18LexSfXi want to show lowest durability % without showing the entire item name in the bar
10:21.19doom0rXinhuan: some people are that bad at math
10:21.20LexSfXlol
10:21.23AntiarcYou can normally fall 70 yards before dying at full health, yes?
10:21.34Gngskjust get tekability and be happy
10:21.35doom0rLexSfX: yes, get taht
10:21.36Xinhuanyeah 70 without slowfall
10:21.41LexSfXdoom0r: ok
10:21.44GngskI used to want average % so bad but now I realize my own folly
10:21.48Xinhuani mean without safefall
10:22.44doom0ri can fall ceiling-x
10:23.32doom0rx = floor altitude
10:24.23doom0rsighs
10:24.29doom0ri so should have moved everythign to pve
10:25.53Fisker-so Antiarc making a mod that can calculate your height? :P
10:25.53Repo10o-uf_rabbit: 03Rabbit * r51 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fix the name tag after oUF 1.3.
10:26.03AntiarcI'm making a mod that measures how long you fall
10:26.19LexSfXgood idea
10:26.20AntiarcAnd that will know what deadly falling height is given your class/spells/glyphs/gear, etc
10:26.58omeganice, that can also help me finish the fall 65 yards thingy
10:27.04AntiarcThat's the idea
10:27.18AntiarcIt'll be a combo "save money from falling" and "cheat at achievements" mod
10:27.19Fisker-it's pretty easy
10:27.19doom0rwalk off scryers balcony
10:27.24omegacould it also log where people finish it, and put it on a website? :p
10:27.27LexSfXyeah, doom0r knows.
10:27.27Fisker-mount up, dismount, bubble/hearth
10:27.31LexSfXit's very easy.
10:27.35GngskAntiarc, spend your energy elsewhere, imo.
10:27.38doom0ror as a pally, bubble
10:27.48AntiarcGngsk: I mod because I can, not because the world is in dire need of my mods :P
10:27.52Fisker-I got it legit on beta though :3
10:27.54AntiarcPlus, I have an awesome name for this one
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10:28.02doom0rit's all about the name
10:28.05LexSfXFolly.  Fally.
10:28.11Fisker-You can fall down in the nexus and just survive it
10:28.11GngskI require more vespene gas. etc.
10:28.12doom0rguesses it only was ever about the name
10:28.56Fisker-~kiss Fisker-
10:28.56purlACTION forces Fisker- to give chead a big kiss on the ear
10:29.16GngskDeep in the unicorn's rump sack you find...sixty gold pieces, and the mysterious stench of dwarf urine!
10:30.15doom0rrerouted your mud's stdout?
10:30.24doom0r=D
10:32.56sacarascGngsk: is it the same smell as before?
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10:33.38Gngsksacarasc, mayhaps
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10:39.55AntiarcHas anyone ever measured falling speed in Azeroth?
10:40.28AntiarcOh, nevermind >_>
10:40.32AntiarcI just have to find terminal velocity
10:41.13doom0risn't the acceleration period short anyways?
10:41.21AntiarcYes
10:41.24AntiarcI just have to find out what it is!
10:42.19Antiarcshouldn't be hard
10:42.41AntiarcPoop
10:42.46AntiarcGetUnitSpeed() while falling is 0
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10:43.02doom0rwhat happens right after you run off a cliff?
10:43.07doom0rhow long til 0?
10:43.36LexSfXforever
10:43.36Megalonfalling never stops your movement in the other directions
10:43.50AntiarcFlying straight up produces a speed of 11, though
10:43.56AntiarcSo vertical movment does factor in
10:44.04LexSfXnope, only because it's 89 degrees.
10:44.14LexSfXyour camera angle is limited to 89 degrees
10:44.17LexSfXtry this:
10:44.26LexSfXthis: /console pitchlimit 90
10:44.33LexSfXand you can move directly vertically.
10:44.48LexSfXwith a speed of 0.
10:45.10AntiarcInteresting
10:45.18AntiarcHolding "X" while falling produces a movement speed of 7
10:45.36Megalonwhateve you bound x to ;)
10:45.40Antiarc"down"
10:45.55LexSfXthat's my desperate prayer.  :P
10:46.06Megalon7 is standard movement speed
10:46.13AntiarcI think that GetUnitSpeed() returns the movement vector the player is attempting to apply
10:46.17AntiarcBut falling overrides it, perhaps
10:46.40AntiarcOho, I know how I can solve this.
10:47.43vithosfly straight up with the spacebar and measure the duration you moved upwards?
10:48.04AntiarcThat doesn't give me the fall rate
10:48.10AntiarcBecause I don't know vertical position
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10:48.26AntiarcI'm going to do it with time and vertical distance traveled, with Levitate
10:48.45doom0ryou could aritificially produce it with range, but not very accurate
10:48.46AntiarcHm, no
10:48.52vithoswell, you fly up as fast as you fly forward right?
10:49.07AntiarcNo
10:49.10LexSfXyou could view the z variable with some memory watcher program
10:49.18AntiarcThat's cheating! :P
10:49.21doom0rif you can abuse range checks to figure out the height of a ledge, take the time falling and cut the factor or character push
10:49.30doom0rof*
10:50.14doom0ras long as unitspeed returns your forward motion, it should be able to help you calculate the arc
10:50.24LexSfXyou do fly up with the jump key exactly as fast as you'd fly vertically by aiming straight up with pitchlimit set to 90.
10:50.56LexSfXbah!  using FuBar2Broker, i could get FuBar_SimpleDurabilityFu working with TitanPanel, but FuBar_DurabilityFu won't work.  :x
10:51.20doom0rplugin versions
10:51.45LexSfXsentence fragments
10:52.03doom0rb2f and f2b, one handles fubarplugin 2 and the other does 3
10:52.17LexSfXohh, i see.
10:53.20doom0rso, i'd check that first
10:53.35LexSfXso i'm guessing FuBar_DurabilityFu uses version 2.
10:53.58doom0ryes
10:56.45Antiarc2.12 sec to fall 40 yards exactly, and it cost me 50% of my HP
10:56.54AntiarcMan, it's been too long since calculus
11:00.59doom0rmy only question is how did you get an exact height measurement?
11:01.41LexSfXtargeted someone friendly on the ground?  though that wouldn't be very exact.
11:01.45AntiarcFlew directly up until gheal went out of range
11:01.51LexSfXheh
11:02.06AntiarcGot exactly on another person, flew straight up until gheal went out of range, fell and have a mod that measures falling time
11:02.16doom0rthe question is, what point on the character to owhat point on your is that from?
11:02.26doom0ris that the same as your feet to ground
11:02.37LexSfXcould be your feet to their head
11:02.50doom0rsee the margin of error i'm looking for?
11:02.50LexSfXdepending on how Blizzard does hitbox+range
11:03.04Xinhuanbtw Antiarc
11:03.15Xinhuanfalling speed is 9.8 yards/sec
11:03.22Xinhuanthere's also a terminal velocity
11:03.30Xinhuanwhich uh, let me try to get the link
11:03.46AntiarcThat's acceleration, yes?
11:04.05Antiarc...heh, -9.8 yards/sec? Not exactly scientifically accurate >_>
11:04.25XinhuanAntiarc: http://homepage.mac.com/prym/partsix.html
11:04.32Antiarcdanke
11:04.35doom0rneither is 8 yards and touching someone
11:04.40Xinhuanyou might want to start reading from Part 1
11:04.45Xinhuanbecause i linked you Part 6
11:04.58XinhuanPart 1 starts from basics and premises
11:05.08AntiarcI understand the basics, mostly
11:05.12AntiarcOr did in high school :P
11:05.15AntiarcIt's coming back to me
11:05.21AntiarcCalculus was a very long time ago
11:05.24Xinhuanhe's talking about the basics of how he measured distances in wow
11:05.27Xinhuannow about the formulas
11:05.29Xinhuannot*
11:05.41Xinhuanthat is, how he can measure the height of a location
11:05.42AntiarcFlagpole measurement, basically
11:05.45Fisker-i hate that page!
11:05.53Xinhuanyes then read page 2/3/4/5
11:05.53AntiarcRight, by knowing horizontal travel distance and fall time
11:05.57Xinhuancorrect
11:06.24Xinhuanpart 6 is how he determined the acceleration and terminal velocity (without GetUnitSpeed())
11:06.55Xinhuanhe concluded in part 4 or 5 that a mage at slowfall that jumps off at 100% running speed, has a travelling vector of 45 degrees
11:07.16Xinhuanso by measuring horizontal distance, it would be the same as the vertical fall distanec
11:07.29AntiarcThat's rather interesting that it's 45 degrees
11:07.45Xinhuanappendix 1 and appendix 2 shows how the minimap terrain is generated and hashed in the MPQs
11:08.07Xinhuanso you can easily rebuild the minimap into Y-Atlas or Cartographer3 using the info in Appendix1/2
11:08.55Xinhuanappendix2 is really the most interesting part of the whole site hehe
11:10.23Xinhuanthis info is why it is "possible" although not very practical to overlay the minimap into sexyhud
11:10.46Xinhuanas the textures can be morphed/scaled into whatever you need them
11:11.05AntiarcYeah. That's very interesting.
11:11.13AntiarcI wish I could do proper texture masking
11:12.26Xinhuanwe know its not possible though
11:12.40Xinhuanbut the info in there is basically what made cart3/yatlas possible
11:13.30Xinhuanthe server date for appendix2 is Friday, December 28, 2007 1:57:58 AM
11:13.35Xinhuanhehe
11:14.12Fisker-the server date should feel bad
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11:22.17theoddone33anyone here happen to be russian?
11:24.06Xinhuan@project routes
11:24.06RepoXinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/routes/. Routes. Game: WoW. Leader: Xinhuan. Author: grum. Updated: 114 minutes ago
11:28.32AntiarcHrm. I'm missing something.
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11:28.53AntiarcI'm thinking -12.7 yards/sec isn't correct :P
11:29.14AntiarcBecause that gives me 3.32 sec of fall time to successfully land, which is a lot more than is true
11:29.26Antiarc2.708 sec of free fall killed me
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11:30.29AntiarcI suspect that damage is calculated in terms of impact velocity
11:31.24AntiarcIf you can fall 70 yards without dying, and -12.7 y/s is the correct gravitational acceleration, then you die at an impact speed of 42.164 y/s
11:32.17Megalon12.7 y/s^2 :P
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11:32.32AntiarcAcceleration is constant
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11:32.52Megalonbut it's unit is still m/s^2 ;)
11:33.00Antiarcfine, fine :P
11:33.58theoddone33it doesn't show meters on the achievement progress does it?
11:34.05theoddone33like it does with the stupid UBRS whelps
11:34.11AntiarcBy my calculations, you die at an impact speed of 39.139 y/s
11:34.18theoddone33"oh we only killed 40" "oh I only fell 43 yards"
11:34.39AntiarcThat can't be right.
11:34.46LexSfXpretty sure damage is calculated by distance falling, because when you click off levitate, you continue falling at the same velocity as if you had been accelerating that entire time.
11:35.10LexSfXbut if you click off levitate and only fall 10 yds super-fast, you don't get killed
11:35.41Antiarcyeah, you're right
11:35.54doom0rdoes guardian spirit work for the falling achievement?
11:36.05theoddone33I believe people said that it doesn't
11:36.18theoddone33I don't think it works on fall damage in general, but I'm not 100%
11:37.02AntiarcI just had an amusing thought
11:37.11AntiarcWhat if gravity were different in Outland and Azeroth?
11:38.30AntiarcAbout 2.7 seconds of freefall will kill you
11:38.45theoddone33do you have any reason to think it is?
11:38.50theoddone33because, that wouldn't make any sense
11:39.01AntiarcJust because they're different planets and Blizzard are nerds :P
11:39.13theoddone33ah
11:39.43XinhuanAntiarc, did you see this
11:39.44Xinhuanhttp://www.wowinsider.com/2008/10/31/preview-of-the-new-minimap-mod-sexymap/
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11:39.47LexSfXi thought Outland was just a land mass floating inexplicably in "the nether"  :P
11:39.53AntiarcYes, it's written by a guildmate of mine
11:40.01AntiarcHe does writeups on my mods to fill his quota :P
11:40.41Xinhuanrofl
11:40.45Xinhuancan he do writeups on my mods too?
11:40.57AntiarcI could get him too, sure >_>
11:41.00AntiarcWhat do you want him to write up?
11:41.01theoddone33only if they are sexy!
11:41.29AntiarcI'm getting an acceleration speed of -19.2 yards/sec outside of Shattrath
11:41.45Antiarc2.7 sec to die, so 70 = x * (2.7^2)
11:41.51LexSfXi like this: "For comedy, here's the default borders but in pink."
11:41.52LexSfXlol
11:41.58Xinhuani don't know, maybe Routes or something
11:42.08Xinhuanhaha
11:42.27Xinhuanbankitems is pretty popular, but it isn't something unique or new
11:42.43Antiarcv = 2x * 2.7, a = 2x, which leaves us with an acceleration of 19.2 y/s^2
11:42.45Xinhuanwhat are you trying to calculate now
11:43.02AntiarcGravitational acceleration speed, because the 12.7 number isn't making any sense
11:43.36Xinhuanhis 12.7m/s is in meters, not yards
11:43.59Xinhuanhe converted it to meters so you can compare it to earth's 9.8 m/s
11:44.04AntiarcHe also defines 1 minimap pixel as 1 foot
11:44.07AntiarcWhich is confusing
11:44.14doom0rno it's not
11:44.20doom0rhuman being 6foot tall
11:44.23AntiarcStill that's only 13.88 m/s
11:44.24doom0rand him laying his human down
11:44.29Antiarcerr
11:44.29Antiarcy/s
11:44.31doom0rread the pages fast
11:45.11Xinhuanwell did you consider terminal velocity?
11:45.43AntiarcI thought I did, but perhaps not
11:45.49Xinhuanhis calculations says it takes 4.2 seconds to reach terminal velocity
11:46.10Xinhuanso if you fall longer than 4.2 secs, your calcs won't be good
11:46.12AntiarcI can't hit terminal velocity and live then
11:46.18AntiarcI'm dying around the 2.7 mark
11:46.31Xinhuanyou need BOP, or pally bubble
11:46.32Xinhuan;p
11:46.38Xinhuanor ice block
11:46.42AntiarcNah, I want to see how much health I lose
11:46.43Repo10dgks: 03leech * r88 / (6 files in 1 directory): dgks:LibSink config fixes.
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11:46.45AntiarcI have levitate
11:46.46Megalonequipment on bank and hf@graveyard :p
11:46.59Xinhuanyeah, or bank equipment, and drop on top of the graveyard hehe
11:48.00Xinhuanthe main thing supporting his data is that he has a list of heights he falls from and he measures the falling time
11:48.07AntiarcI'm using code to measure my vertical distance
11:48.09Xinhuanso he has a linear fit line
11:48.11AntiarcThen to measure my falling time
11:48.22AntiarcAnd I'm coming up with 19y/s negative acceleration
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11:48.46Xinhuanwell how do you measure your vertical fall distance in code?
11:49.06AntiarcOnUpdate, if IsFlying then height = height + (GetUnitSpeed("player") * t)
11:49.25AntiarcFly straight up
11:49.25Xinhuangetunitspeed() returns accurates values while falling?
11:49.29AntiarcNo
11:49.34AntiarcBut it does while flying
11:49.42AntiarcSo I can get how far -up- I'm going
11:49.48AntiarcI did the 65-yard achievement with it >_>
11:50.02AntiarcI also have a bit that measures falling time with IsFalling()
11:50.10AntiarcSo, I have my height and fall time
11:50.15AntiarcAnd can extrapolate acceleration from that
11:50.23Xinhuanthat's not accurate to mesure height i think
11:50.27Grumor you can just jump of the scryer lift to the floor (not the bridge at the lift) :p
11:50.31Xinhuanhe measures his fall distance by knowing that a mage slowfall at running speed is at 45 degrees angle
11:50.45Xinhuanso he measures horizontal distance from every points he jumps off
11:50.51AntiarcI measure fall distance by knowing my travel speed * time I've been moving directly vertical :P
11:50.53Xinhuanto know the height, and that is scientific
11:51.11Xinhuanif you fly straight up, GetUnitPitch doesn't actually return you straight up
11:51.16Xinhuanits like 1 degree off
11:51.17AntiarcI'm just holding spacebar.
11:51.24Megalon/console pitchlimit 90
11:51.24AntiarcYay, straight up
11:51.26Megalon:O
11:52.05AntiarcI can drop myself to 1% health very accurately this way :P
11:52.16AntiarcI'm pretty sure my measurements are close enough to be usable
11:52.30BelazorYou're a giant nerd Antiarc XD
11:52.32Xinhuanwell
11:52.40Xinhuanhe measures his falling distanec at 1798.8 feet
11:52.43Xinhuanwhat about you
11:52.44BelazorI just threw myself off Stormspire and Ice Block'd right at the end XD
11:52.51Xinhuanif you were to go to his location and measure
11:52.56AntiarcI got to 69.36 yards up, fell, and had 89 HP left
11:53.07AntiarcI only care about distance-to-death
11:53.13Zeksieheh. nice
11:53.25Zeksieis this in a mod? :)
11:53.29Antiarcyes
11:53.32Zeksiegeibv
11:53.38AntiarcI'm working on it
11:53.42Zeksiegeiv faster :)
11:53.51Xinhuanare you using a rogue
11:53.56Xinhuansafefallol
11:53.57AntiarcPriest
11:54.07AntiarcAnd yes, I can keep dropping myself to 1% health extremely reliably :P
11:54.08Xinhuan53.2 Mph is his flying speed, is that accurate
11:54.30Antiarc11.2 yards/sec
11:54.39Xinhuaneven so, i can't see why his data would be so different from yours
11:54.48Xinhuanhis method seems pretty solid
11:55.01AntiarcHe's using different units
11:55.21AntiarcI really don't think he's using WoW yards :P
11:55.32AntiarcI think the rub is this:
11:55.42Antiarc1 "yard" in WoW is not proportional
11:56.12AntiarcIt's just a unit of measurement. It's not actually 3 feet, where a human male is 6 feet tall.
11:56.23Xinhuanwell read part3 or somewhere where he defined "1 yard"
11:56.45Xinhuanhis yard is based on the mage blink distance of 20 yards
11:57.10Xinhuanwhat units does GetUnitSpeed() return in?
11:57.34Xinhuansince that is what you are basing your unit on
11:57.42Antiarcyards/sec
11:58.04Xinhuancan that be proven?
11:58.15AntiarcSure, give me a moment
11:59.42Xinhuanzeksie, the fun of that achievement is to watch ppl splatter and die though :D
11:59.57Xinhuanhaving an addon tell you how far to drop spoils the fun hehe
12:00.09Zeksieyes.. i know... that's why *I* would use the mod and demonstrate how EASY it is. while they still die :)
12:00.16Xinhuanrofl
12:00.19sacarasci got the falling achievement on my first try
12:00.33Xinhuansacarasc: what class are you :)
12:00.39doom0rnonono
12:00.44sacarascshaman
12:00.45doom0rmake the mod to ENSURE they die
12:00.52doom0r=D
12:01.23doom0rstarts a viral campaign
12:01.26theoddone33something that you could test with that mod
12:01.34theoddone33whether the ceiling is curved or straight
12:01.39theoddone33domed or just flat
12:02.14AntiarcHm, I need the zone speed for terrokar
12:02.28Xinhuanzone speed?
12:02.39AntiarcThe scalar for map coordinates
12:02.57AntiarcSince zones go from 0..1, but not all zones are the same size
12:03.20XinhuanTerokkarForest = {5399.832305361811,3599.888203574541,22,},
12:03.28Xinhuan5399.83 yards wide
12:03.32AntiarcSweet, thanks
12:03.47Xinhuanthis data is straight from the WorldMapZones.dbc
12:04.00Xinhuanthey actually give it in 2 numbers, in x1, x2 offsets
12:04.08Xinhuanso deducting one from the other gives the width
12:05.16Antiarcyeah, I'm getting matching values for speed based on movement via GetPlayMapPosition and GetUnitSpeed
12:06.14Xinhuanonly if you are truly travelling horizontally
12:06.22XinhuanGetUnitSpeed() returns the true 3d speed
12:06.32XinhuanGetPlayMapPosition returns horizontal x-y plane speed
12:06.37Xinhuanx-y plane speed is a constant
12:06.41AntiarcI'm walking on a flat surface :P
12:06.41Antiarchttp://pastey.net/101035
12:06.41Xinhuanwhen on the ground
12:06.55Xinhuanso in many cases, GetUnitSpeed is actually useless ;p
12:07.08Xinhuanbecause sometimes you want the x-y plane speed, not the true speed
12:07.17AntiarcBut I demonstrated that GetUnitSpeed() returns speed in yards
12:07.23AntiarcWhich was the original question
12:07.49Xinhuanaha
12:08.48Antiarc696.5 yards up = 62 HP remaining :D
12:08.50Xinhuando you have a plot of "Time falling" vs "Distance fell" in your measurements
12:08.58AntiarcYes
12:09.02AntiarcMy mod spits that out for me
12:09.05Xinhuandid you mean 69.6 yards
12:09.18Fisker-hateloves Antiarc
12:09.29Antiarc05:08 Fell 69.652795757067 yards in 2.6980001218617 seconds
12:09.43Xinhuancan you log on your rogue and figure out whats the maximum distance a rogue with safefall can fall :D
12:09.47AntiarcSo I'm nearly positive that 2.7 sec is the time-til-death
12:09.49AntiarcI will in a sec
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12:09.53AntiarcI have the safe fall glyph though
12:09.56AntiarcSo that'll mess with it
12:10.03Xinhuanyou can remove the glpyh
12:10.04AntiarcHowever
12:10.08Xinhuanshift-click remove ;p
12:10.10AntiarcThat destroys it :(
12:10.14Xinhuanor measure both with/without hehe
12:10.17Matrix110A Mage can fall forever without dieing aslong as you see the end or reach it before 10secs are over!
12:10.36XinhuanMatrix110: you can recast it while falling
12:10.38AntiarcAnyhow. 2.7 seconds of freefall til death, not considering terminal velocity means -19 yards/sec acceleration
12:10.47Fisker-So what safe fall just makes you not take any damage from a certain height but take the same amount of damage as everyone else when you reach a certain height?
12:10.50Matrix110No Iceblock has a 30sec CD
12:10.57Matrix110and slow fall doesnt count for falling without dieing :P
12:11.03AntiarcFisker-: It increases the distance rogues can fall
12:11.12Fisker-by less than 4 yards?
12:11.17AntiarcSo yeah, more or less it adds more buffer
12:11.21AntiarcIt's like 20 yards or something
12:11.24AntiarcI can fall a long way on my rogue
12:11.33Fisker-Then how did 69 yards almost kill you?
12:11.38AntiarcI'm on my priest
12:11.39theoddone33plus level 50 quest cloak
12:11.41Fisker-oh
12:11.46theoddone33plus glyph of slow fall (unless the r emoved that?)
12:11.48Matrix110Rogues dont die from the Aldor fall I think
12:11.51theoddone33er safe fall
12:12.04AntiarcAnyhow. 2.7 seconds is kill time. That's all I need to know for this mod.
12:12.08theoddone33I love falling off the cliff in AB without breaking stealth
12:12.18AntiarcNow I just need to figure out the average time to unequip all items with durability
12:13.31Xinhuanyou saw the darklegacy comic on the 65 yards achievement right?
12:13.36Xinhuanpretty funny
12:13.36AntiarcDon't think so
12:14.00Xinhuanhttp://www.darklegacycomics.com/161.html
12:14.02Xinhuanthere go look
12:14.26Antiarcglyph of safe fall is still 45g on my server
12:14.35Antiarcso sorry, we're keeping the glyph >_>
12:15.11Xinhuanhe landed on the guy, so his fall distance is 5 feet 10 inches less ;p
12:15.13Xinhuanpretty funny
12:15.28AntiarcA 75 yard fall reduces me to 37.5% HP with Safe Fall + glyph
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12:15.52Xinhuanyou should figure out whats the max fall distance
12:15.57Xinhuanthat you don't lose health for
12:15.58AntiarcI'm going to
12:16.01AntiarcOh
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12:16.03Xinhuanas well
12:16.04doom0rsafe fall has a value of 17
12:16.06AntiarcThat should be doable
12:16.09doom0rglyph has 10
12:16.19AntiarcSo in theory, 97 yards?
12:16.21AntiarcLet's test it >_>
12:16.38Xinhuanso what we're interested in is whether the "fall distance where you take damage" is scaled or not scaled
12:17.05AntiarcI know that the safe fall distance is higher for my rogue
12:17.07Xinhuanmeaning, does the glpyh increase the distance you don't take damage?
12:17.09AntiarcI can fall much further without taking damage
12:17.13AntiarcJust with safe fall
12:17.19AntiarcThan I can on my priest/war
12:17.48doom0rper fall mod cases, so he can appropriately give per, the safe fall time
12:17.51Antiarc95.7 yards = 1.3% HP left
12:18.09AntiarcSo, I think it's safe to assume that Safe Fall is 87 yards, Safe Fall + glyph is 97 yards
12:18.37Xinhuannow find the max distance you don't take damage
12:19.00Xinhuanlets assume its 57 yards?
12:19.03Antiarcsafe at 36 yards
12:19.04Xinhuanas a initial guess
12:19.13Xinhuan57 because you got +27
12:19.17Xinhuanas modifiers
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12:19.20AntiarcLost 210 damage at 40.2 yards
12:19.27Xinhuanhmm
12:19.32FtH|Daemonahmpf
12:19.45Antiarc59 damage 39.9 yards
12:19.52AntiarcSo I'll assume 39 yards before taking damage
12:19.54FtH|Daemonadid the update to the europe launcher exe really delete my \cache\wdb ?
12:19.58Xinhuantry 38
12:19.58FtH|Daemonagoddamn idiots -.-
12:20.03Xinhuanif you can
12:20.14AntiarcNo damage at 38.33 yards
12:20.18XinhuanFtH|Daemona: launcher updates always deletes the wdb ;p
12:21.13Xinhuanso for a rogue with glpyh, its 39-97 yards for falling damage
12:21.18Xinhuannow find out if its proportional
12:21.26Xinhuanlua> (39+97)/2
12:21.26lua_botXinhuan: 68
12:21.32Xinhuando you take 50% loss at 68?
12:21.32AntiarcI'm gonna find the minimum range for damage on a priest
12:21.40AntiarcGimme a sec
12:22.12Antiarc883 damage at 20.1 yards
12:22.36AntiarcNo damage at 10.95 yards
12:22.44AntiarcNo damage at 11.2
12:22.54Antiarc3 damage at 12.98 yards
12:23.04AntiarcSo 13-70 yards is the non-rogue fall range
12:23.04Xinhuanso 13 yards
12:23.14AntiarcSo rogues get 3x the fall range with Safe Fall + Glyph :O
12:23.21AntiarcThat's awesome
12:23.28Xinhuanwait
12:23.31Xinhuanlua> 70-13
12:23.31lua_botXinhuan: 57
12:23.38Xinhuanlua> 97-39
12:23.39lua_botXinhuan: 58
12:23.39FtH|Daemonaand now go test how high sawmill is in arathi basin? ;)
12:23.44Xinhuanthe range is the same Antiarc
12:23.56Xinhuan1 yard error there
12:24.05Megalon97 is not exactly triple of 70 :P
12:24.17Xinhuannow find out if the damage loss is proportional
12:24.24Xinhuanfrom 0-100 linearly
12:24.38AntiarcI don't think it i
12:24.48AntiarcWait >_>
12:25.00Antiarc28.67 yards is a 32% HP loss
12:25.00Xinhuantry falling at the midpoint between 13 and 70 (which is 41.5)
12:25.07Fisker-pirates irc
12:25.23Megalonprivates irc
12:25.32doom0rYo ho ho and a bottle of RAM.
12:25.34Xinhuanlua> (28.67-13)/(70-13)
12:25.35lua_botXinhuan: 0.27491228070175
12:25.36Antiarc41.69 yards = 47.3% HP loss
12:25.45Xinhuanlua> (41.69-13)/(70-13)
12:25.45lua_botXinhuan: 0.50333333333333
12:25.49doom0rhttp://www.songstowearpantsto.com
12:25.49Repo10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1046 ARLFrame.lua: AckisRecipeList:
12:25.49Repo- fixed shield/fist filtering completely
12:25.50Repo- these were seriously messed up - bad ackis!
12:26.05AntiarcOh, wait
12:26.10Xinhuanseems proportional
12:26.17Antiarc50.33% HP
12:26.20AntiarcSo yes, proportional
12:26.27Fastiis there a macro to target someone in specific raid slot?
12:26.29AntiarcSo you can predict exactly how long you can fall before dying :)
12:26.39*** join/#wowace Julith (n=Miranda@i59F7F93A.versanet.de)
12:26.42AntiarcFasti: /cast [target=raid1] Flash Heal
12:27.00Fasticould keybound every raidslot for ultra fast healing :P
12:27.00AntiarcSo yes, I think it's proportional
12:27.05Fastino more mouse needed!
12:27.27Megaloneasy doable with 25man raids!
12:27.41Fastino
12:27.50Fastiif I want to retain my old keys too
12:27.53AntiarcSo anyway
12:27.58doom0rmake a box that takes a heal on enter, and type the name in
12:27.59doom0r;x
12:28.07AntiarcNow I just have to get my mod to unequip your gear if you pass your death fall time
12:28.08Fastican do up to 3 groups easily, but the last 2 groups will be positioned badly
12:28.17doom0rit'd be like Typing of the Dead
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12:28.21Xinhuanproblem is, how do you detect when you are freefalling
12:28.26AntiarcIsFalling()
12:28.36Xinhuanso an OnUpdate that constantly calls that?
12:28.39AntiarcYeah
12:28.49Xinhuanlol
12:28.54Megalonwell, only ever 2.6s? :P
12:28.55AntiarcYou could do it on aura changed or something, since you'd lose a mount aura
12:29.03Megalons/ever/every/
12:29.10Xinhuanthink of a good mod name
12:29.11Megalonas you die by 2.78s? ;x
12:29.16AntiarcI have a good mod name
12:29.19AntiarcIt's called "Aieeeeee"
12:29.38Megalonand where is the good mod name?
12:29.42Xinhuanhttp://www.darklegacycomics.com/161.html
12:29.46Xinhuanits still funny ;p
12:30.07asmodaiAntiarc: sounds like a threat meter ;)
12:30.44MegalonGoneIn2.78Seconds
12:30.50doom0rlol
12:31.10Xinhuancan you verify IsFalling() is false when swimming or floating in Gravity Lapse? ;p
12:31.11doom0rslaps geek approval on that
12:31.26AntiarcNo, but I can just make it not unequip if in combat
12:31.42AntiarcIt's nil when swimming
12:31.46MegalonIsSwimming is not IsFalling
12:31.48Megalon:x
12:32.22Xinhuanmake it a closetgnome plugin hehe
12:32.30AntiarcI should
12:32.42XinhuanClosetGnome_Aieeeeee
12:32.43Xinhuanlol!
12:32.44doom0r*cough* itemrack *cough*
12:33.31Xinhuanthat or equipmentmod-independant ;p
12:33.42AntiarcI'm just gonna make a standalone mod I think
12:33.47AntiarcThen see about plugins
12:34.28Xinhuanthere's already a closetgnome plugin that removes all your gear with durability if your health goes low
12:34.40Xinhuanalthough it might only do weapons
12:34.48Xinhuannot sure, i never checked it
12:34.48doom0rthe question remains
12:34.59doom0rWhat good is it if you manually start to fall?
12:35.18doom0rwith say intention of hitting slow fall
12:35.31AntiarcI'm a rogue
12:35.37AntiarcI don't bother with such petty things
12:35.40AntiarcOoh
12:35.46AntiarcI should test with my Duskbat
12:35.57AntiarcWTF
12:36.00AntiarcThey nerfed my Duskbat!
12:36.02AntiarcBastards!
12:36.15AntiarcThose sons of bitches
12:36.53Xinhuani like to iceblock fall on top of ppl in shatt ;p
12:38.12AntiarcHow do I get a list of installed glyphs?
12:40.09AntiarcGetGlyphSocketInfo
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13:02.54Repo10item-level-dkp: 03Raut * r35 core.lua: Fixed code for German(or probably other) clients.
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13:09.56Repo- formatted shield left test
13:09.57Repo- updated shield calculation for 3.0.3 ("Focused Power" affects shield now and blizzard counts "Impr. PW:Shield" twice :)
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13:33.00Repo10glassunitframes: 03h3nrym2 * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory):
13:33.01RepoHealth bars now gradually change to red as the units HP decreases.
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13:52.56ZhinjioGood morning, folks.
13:55.44thulhmm, where are the hair dressers?
13:57.58Zhinjiothe one in SW is in the alley behind the AH
13:58.02thulok
13:58.14ZhinjioIF is... opposite the inn just left of the entrance
13:58.18Zhinjionot sure about Darn
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13:59.35Fisker-yay
13:59.40Fisker-someone got wotlk early
13:59.43Fisker-*downloads*
14:03.20thulZhinjio: thanks :-D
14:03.24thulFisker-:P
14:03.54Fisker-I hope i get WotLK early :(
14:04.11Fisker-Blizzard should take a hint and release the game a couple of days prior to the release on the servers imo
14:04.31thuli have preordered
14:04.35sb,hh,
14:04.37Fisker-same
14:04.41Fisker-But i want to play at midnight :E
14:04.42sbpreorder + midnight shopping
14:04.42thuli hope it comes in time
14:04.46sbhere :)
14:05.41Fisker-Curse this country and it's intelligence
14:06.00Fisker-Everywhere else it's like "DURRRRRR release game early? Sure
14:06.24Fisker-Here it's "Fuck you, i don't want to be fined (even though you won't since they can't afford to anyways)"
14:06.58Fisker-Need moar selleers willing to put their job on the line
14:08.01thulhaah
14:11.13Matrix110Fisker- they way Blizzard does it is retarted and they know it :P
14:11.39Matrix110Just login to acc. managment
14:11.50Matrix110Press "Order WotLK key" enter payment details done
14:11.53Matrix110get DL link
14:12.00Matrix110would be awesome
14:12.02Matrix110but no...
14:13.06renchapa friend just received an email which says that his wotlk collector has been sended and he will get it monday
14:13.10renchapwith tracking number
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14:14.32Matrix110renchap yes the retailers got everything already
14:14.32Matrix110but they are not allowed to send it out before 12. in the morning
14:14.32Grumordered 2x LE; 2x normal and going out for another 2x normal o.O
14:14.33renchapi preordered it, will get it at midnight in paris
14:15.07Matrix110amazon has to send out like 1mio WotLKs and they arent allowed to do it prior the 12th -.-
14:15.28Matrix110they are all packaged already and everything
14:17.26Pneumatusits crazy really, its not like you can do anything with it once it arrives
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14:18.53Fisker-Actually they are allowed to send it out in such order it reaches their customers
14:19.23Fisker-Atleast in terms of internationally
14:19.55Fisker-I've had some international orders where they are send prior to the day before (as national post is usually day-to-day) because it would take some days for it to reach me
14:20.13Fastiwonder when the gamersloot puts the torrent up :P
14:20.17Zhinjioif someone has an extra collector's edition to trade, I'd be grateful. my mother in law didn't get to the website(s) fast enough
14:20.55Repo10libqtip-1-0: 03Torhal 04v1.0 * r41 :
14:20.55RepoHaven't received any bug reports or feature requests at all, so I'm tagging for release.
14:22.04Fastioh it seems to be up already
14:23.01Repo10aieeeeee: 03Antiarc 07master * 7ce1f7d / (2 files in 1 directory): [new, +2 commits]
14:23.02Repo7ce1f7d: Add UnitIsGhost to short circuit re-equip
14:23.03Repo7d6849e: Initial commit
14:23.13Fisker-Zhinjio i can get one but it'll cost you a i7 965
14:23.17Antiarc@project aieeeeee
14:23.18RepoAntiarc: http://www.wowace.com/projects/aieeeeee/. Aieeeeee!. Game: WoW. Status: Needs Approval. Leader: Antiarc. Updated: 11 seconds ago
14:23.27Fisker-only costs $3000 here!
14:23.37[SW]Dodgelf a new UI. gimme screenshots :D ^^
14:23.47AntiarcIt's a money-saver
14:23.58Fisker-i get 403
14:24.02AntiarcIt unequips your gear when you're about to fall to your death
14:24.05AntiarcAnd it has to be approved first
14:24.13Fisker-;_;
14:24.13Antiarchttp://static.wowace.com/uploads/18/308/72/aieeeeee-r20081108142225.zip
14:24.29Fisker-Folder isn't capsed
14:24.30Fisker-fail = fail
14:24.46Repo10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r95 Elephant.toc: Elephant: Updating TOC.
14:25.10Fisker-Does it come with insurance Antiarc ?
14:25.16AntiarcNo
14:25.29Fisker-slack
14:25.48[SW]Dodgeneed that addon approved, want it in CC ^^
14:25.52Repo10aieeeeee: 03Antiarc 07master * 1e6d463 .pkgmeta: [+1 commit] Add pkgmeta
14:26.09Fisker-Anyways won't the addon fail on mac?
14:26.16AntiarcWhy would it?
14:26.22Fisker-case-sensitivity
14:26.54Fisker-does it take into consideration your current hp? :P
14:26.58AntiarcYes
14:27.05Fisker-cool
14:27.10Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r1728 / (5 files in 5 directories): - misc stuff
14:27.56AntiarcLemme fix that real fast
14:28.07Fisker-wtf
14:28.19Fisker-not taking any fall damage
14:28.30Fisker-your addon rules!
14:28.55Fisker-wtf
14:29.01Fisker-i'm invulnerable to fall damage
14:29.01Fisker-:DDD
14:29.05Fisker-this is sick
14:29.08Fisker-or lag
14:29.09ZhinjioAieeeee and Vendorbait approved.
14:29.09Killmorewhat ?
14:29.10Antiarcwhat?
14:29.21KillmoreAntiarc !
14:29.26Killmoreyou hack the game :P
14:29.29[SW]Dodge@project Vendorbait
14:29.29Repo[SW]Dodge: http://www.wowace.com/projects/vendorbait/. VendorBait. Game: WoW. Leader: Tekkub. Updated: 6 hours ago
14:29.32AntiarcApparently, without knowing it
14:29.42Fisker-i'm srs
14:29.51[SW]Dodgei'll get both :D
14:29.59Repo10aieeeeee: 03Antiarc 07master * b71bbe3 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fix package-as
14:30.02Killmorevendorbait is ?
14:30.13[SW]Dodge"Highlight the best quest reward choice for selling to vendor"
14:30.16Fisker-haha wtf
14:30.20Killmoreomg
14:30.25Fisker-pictures says all
14:30.49robotuschI feel another ban coming Fisker-'s way sooner or later ;)
14:31.07Fisker-indeed
14:31.12TorhalFisker-, stop exploiting...even if it's Antiarc's fault...:D
14:31.18Fisker-doesn't reequip weapons btw
14:31.27Antiarcit re-equiped mine
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14:32.11Fisker-Could be a bug due to caster/melee equipping working differently?
14:32.23Fisker-http://i33.tinypic.com/14mqclt.jpg
14:32.28Fisker-http://i36.tinypic.com/10p6knn.jpg
14:32.35Fisker-Even healed myself to check if it was lag
14:32.52Fisker-may still be a product of lag
14:33.00Repo10gsshield: 03Julith 04v0.3 * r10 : Tagging as v0.3
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14:33.15TorhalAntiarc, how the hell did you put invisible anti-gravity boots in your addon?
14:33.23AntiarcTorhal: Heck if I know!
14:33.27Fisker-haha
14:33.28AntiarcIs it doing it for you too?
14:33.33Fisker-still works
14:33.36TorhalI haven't tried. About to :)
14:34.24robotuschalso Fisker-, /slap Gimme and tell him it's on thursday, not tuesday
14:34.34Fisker-Gimme?
14:35.01Fisker-Does it ignore bg's btw Antiarc ?
14:35.08AntiarcNo, not yet anyway
14:35.20AntiarcThough why would you want it to? >_>
14:35.28AntiarcFalling deaths in BGs cost durability
14:35.37sblol Antiarc, thats great :p
14:35.37Fisker-robotusch get ingame
14:35.43Fisker-they do? :3
14:35.47Antiarcyes
14:35.53Fisker-never noticed that
14:36.10robotuschon my way out, so unless you feel like waiting an hour or so
14:36.33Fisker-:E
14:36.41Fisker-DO IT
14:36.49Fisker-rather play wow than be on your way out
14:37.48Fisker-now it works with equipping weapons strangely enough
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14:38.10Repo10aieeeeee: 03Antiarc 07master * 7ec0b9c Aieeeeee.lua: [+1 commit] Make re-equipping smarter
14:43.35Fisker-haha
14:43.55Fisker-i don't wanna ever relog
14:44.05Fisker-it's probably temporary
14:44.28Fisker-or maybe i'm GM tagged? :E
14:45.17KillmoreFisker-: I dont have your cheat of death luck hack :(
14:45.24Fisker-:3
14:46.14Killmorewhat is your lag on your server ?
14:46.22Killmoremine 50ms
14:47.35Fisker-200-300 here
14:47.40Fisker-but thats because im torrenting
14:47.43Fisker-tried disabling it
14:47.44Fisker-same result
14:47.45Brunersyou used bubble didnt you ?
14:47.52Bruners:P
14:48.28Killmoremaybe is something with spirit of redemption or you really hack :(
14:48.59Fisker-no Bruners :E
14:49.01Repo10aieeeeee: 03Antiarc 07master * d22d10d Aieeeeee.lua: [+1 commit] Don't assume that non-catform druids have feline grace. But druids have flight form anyway. If you're a druid and using this mod, you ~fail
14:49.59[SW]DodgeAntiarc: noes :_:
14:50.21AntiarcDruids should be bouncy balls in bearform
14:50.25AntiarcBecause they're so fat
14:50.38Fisker-besides you can see from the timestamps that i couldnt have used bubble
14:50.48Brunersi died on my paladin
14:51.02Fisker-I think i might be flagged as a GM
14:53.33BrunersAntiarc: but that spam could be avoided?
14:54.30Pneumatushmm, is there a way with ratingbuster to check the stats of an item based on a talent spec other than your own current talents?
14:54.37Fisker-isn't there a statistic for longest fall btw?
14:55.27Brunersthere is an achivement if that is what your talking about
14:55.47AntiarcOne of the things I learned to do when doing this mod
14:55.52AntiarcWas measure how high up I am
14:55.58AntiarcSo I can fall from a precise height now >_>
14:56.21Antiarcbtw
14:56.24Pneumatuswhats the max height you can fall from without dying?
14:56.26AntiarcAzeroth has 2x earth's gravity
14:56.31Antiarc70 yards if you're a non-rogue
14:56.40Antiarc97 if you're a rogue with safe fall and the glyph
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14:58.31Bruners65 yards is 90% health ?
14:59.09Antiarclua> 1 - 52/57
14:59.09lua_botAntiarc: 0.087719298245614
14:59.20Antiarc8.77% HP left
15:01.48charon~64m at 19.6m/s^2? that sounds... painful
15:02.04qwestoso, if Azeroth has 2x earth's gravity, what's the max height you can fall from without dying irl? :P
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15:02.56AntiarcI guess it's 17.37 m/s^2
15:02.56eliteevilqwesto: depends on your landing. :P
15:03.00AntiarcSo not quite 2x
15:03.01AntiarcBut close
15:03.35TorhalAntiarc, if you haven't done so already you may want to add an SV so the addon will re-equip upon ressurection if the player says "fuck it" after falling to their death and simply logs out.
15:03.59AntiarcEh. Guess I could.
15:04.03balstorwell IRL it all depends on the landing material, a good peat bog of sorts there is no limit to the distance you can fall water on the other hand is under 100 feet at least
15:04.05TorhalHeh
15:04.38PucmelStewardess Vesna Vulovic survives 10160m fall without parachute
15:04.41Pucmeltry it :)
15:04.56balstora good thick snow pack is about 3 miles or so ^ her
15:05.28balstorworse thing to hit from way up, water, worse than concreate
15:05.45PucmelIn World War II there were several reports of military aircrew surviving long falls: Nick Alkemade, Alan Magee, and I.M.Chisov all fell at least 5,500 meters and survived.
15:05.58Pucmelwell dont try it i guess :)
15:06.23balstorit ain't over till you try ace3 then all falls get you
15:06.53Brunerstwo buddies of mine jumped from a bridge ruining their knee caps and shit
15:07.25charononto/into what?
15:07.28balstorAce3 Question: in Ace2 i have a DB called LD and I issue a db_data = LD50_armor:AcquireDBNamespace("LD50_armor_data");  whats an equivalent call for Ace3?
15:07.29Brunerswater
15:07.53Antiarcself.db = Chatter.db:RegisterNamespace("ChatFont", defaults)
15:07.58balstorwater is not all soft as people and the movies think
15:07.59AntiarcThat's what I use for Chatter modules
15:08.18Brunerscharon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdIlwTMYH_c&feature=related
15:08.28balstorAntiarc put if my namespace already exist that will error out???
15:08.42Antiarcwhat>
15:08.43Antiarc?
15:09.26balstorAntiarc : but if my namespace already exist (created laast login) won't  that methodl error out???
15:09.32AntiarcNo
15:09.50DezzimalI knew a guy that lost his toenails cliff jumping
15:10.15Dezzimaldidn't really trim them too much, jumped in with his feet pointed downward, hit the water
15:10.18charonBruners: how high is that bridge?
15:10.21Dezzimalcouple of em ripped off
15:10.35balstorcliff jumping reminds me ofwhat my father said about airplane jumping, why in the hell would he jump out of a perfectly good plane
15:12.09Repo10aieeeeee: 03Antiarc 07master * 499623d / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Make the item re-equip list a saved var so that you can re-equip after a stupid falling death because the cat jumped on the keyboard and dismounted you, and you got so mad that you threw it off the balcony, but then felt horrible and took it to the vet but then you sat in the waiting room for so long that you got logged out. This way when you log back in and rez it'll re-
15:12.14Brunerscharon: not sure
15:12.19Brunerscharon: http://www.ytre-beiarn.net/gallery/mai2007/mai_2006_028 side view
15:12.48Dezzimalrepo bot abuse
15:14.49Silviu-http://s216.photobucket.com/albums/cc84/dpstheskullffs/hahahazi6.jpg lol nice
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15:17.29Antiarchttp://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=252222
15:19.44[SW]DodgeAntiarc: nice description :D
15:21.33Brunershaha
15:23.12Zyndrome._.
15:26.30Repo10aieeeeee: 03Antiarc 07master * 6ff4ef3 Aieeeeee.lua: [+1 commit] Fix for blank slots?
15:26.33asmodaiMmm, I wonder why combuctor at times doesn't allow me to click items in the bank unless I click another tab and then back again
15:28.45Fisker-awww Antiarc
15:28.51Fisker-that's what you get for being a good guy
15:28.56Fisker-get killed and then the effect wears off
15:29.00AntiarcHaha
15:29.01AntiarcOwnt
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15:32.12balstorAntiarc with AceDB-3.0 i get my second namespace but I can't control the prfile it writes the data to, anyone of lying my way around that?
15:32.32balstoranyone=anyway
15:32.33AntiarcIt should take an option after defaults for that, I think
15:35.43Fisker-http://i34.tinypic.com/16k2l42.jpg :(
15:36.10p3limis away: I'm not here right now, leave a message.
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15:39.50robotuschlol Fusker
15:41.14KilrooWell, I've got four oUF layouts here.
15:41.24KilrooIf I can combine them the way I want, I should be good.
15:41.40Kilroorubs his hands together cheerfully.
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15:51.41JensRexWho owns purl?
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15:55.04Matrix110~purl
15:55.05purlWe are the purl, prepare to be assimilated
15:56.35robotuschLet's all lulz at Fisker-
16:00.19Studdly1Antiarc
16:01.26Studdly1Antiarc Ping
16:02.45Matrix110you need to be more annoying like Antiarc SexyMap Omen Omen3 Chatter
16:03.22Studdly1lolz
16:03.25balstorso AceDB-3.0 has ONE profile key (internally) across ALL addons, grrrrrrr
16:03.47Studdly1Chatter will not let me pick texture bg
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16:06.14StanzillaStuddly1: if you say chatter in this channel antiarc will kill a kitten, so be careful!
16:06.27Studdly1O.o
16:06.31Zyndromebut ... you just did
16:06.40Stanzillaomgz :(
16:06.41Matrix110hmm is there any maintained raidstatus addon?
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16:06.43Studdly1I said chatter before. nothing happened.
16:06.53Stanzillasee, now the brown one is dead :(
16:07.12Fisker-no u robotusch :(
16:07.33Fisker-Infact i should use it to my advantage
16:07.56Fisker-As far as i know they block CC payments when an account gets suspended because it could be because it was compromised
16:08.21Fisker-So i can just say "Yeah i was hacked and some evil guy used hax to get candy corns"
16:08.25Fisker-:3
16:10.11robotusch:P
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16:14.05Repo10gathermate: 03Pettigrow * r587 Locales/GatherMate-frFR.lua: frFR Update
16:16.49Camcianyone plays warrior? i need a good lvl 29 twink spec :p
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16:19.43Fastioo.. wotlk installed and ready to go!
16:19.52Fastigive servers and cdkey
16:20.20Fastior nm servers, as it works with current live
16:20.33Fisker-so you can login with the wotlk client?
16:20.36Fastiyes
16:20.39Fisker-awsum
16:20.58Fastiit's a fully patched beta client, edit realmlist and copy current live wow.exe in there and start it
16:21.36Fastinot sure if it's going to work for release, but seems to be working already so.. muh
16:22.23Fisker-ah
16:22.34Fisker-Gonna download the wotlk release
16:22.39Fisker-Been put up on torrents
16:23.05Fisker-5 days till hell breaks loose etc.
16:23.35Fastiis it really wotlk retail?
16:23.36Zyndromeorly
16:23.52Fastihttp://forums.gamersloot.net/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=3697
16:23.54Repo10arl: 03Pettigrow * r1047 Locals/ARLLocals-frFR.lua: frFR Update
16:23.55Zyndromedo want to pre-install and just type in the key when I get it :E
16:24.26FastiI did that, or I had beta client already as I was in beta, just updated last 2 patches and worked etc
16:24.59Fisker-Fasti i believe so
16:25.05Fisker-but haven't checked myself
16:25.09Fisker-not downloaded yet
16:25.10FastiI highly doubt that there is wotlk retail version on torrent atm, altough it is already done
16:25.23Fisker-dunno if i can list the image contents at the moment
16:25.37Fisker-I'm surprised is wasn't before
16:25.42Fisker-wotlk has been in stores for weeks
16:25.48SroshCan you link?
16:25.52Fastigamersloot will put up a retail torrent before release at least
16:26.11Fisker-Srosh probably shouldn't
16:26.17Fisker-But it's on a pretty popular bay
16:26.22Fisker-if you know what i mean
16:26.32SroshGotcha.
16:27.07Fisker-looks legit btw
16:27.54Fisker-5 tomes and an installer +dx
16:28.05Fastilink
16:28.20FastiI'll compare it to my beta client tomes
16:28.38Fastior bah
16:28.41Fisker-wouldn't be the same :3
16:28.42Repo10achievement-ranking: 03kunda * r14 / (4 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 3 lines)
16:28.43RepoAchievementRanking:
16:28.44Repo- bugfix variable is now set back correctly (achievementFunctions.selectedCategory / AchievementFrameComparison_UpdateFriendStatusBar() workaround)
16:28.47Repo- add better check if event trigger stuck (no more brute force)
16:28.48FastiI dont have it tombed
16:28.51Repo- new option: 'Maximum Data Entries per server:' 100 (DEFAULT) or 1000
16:28.53Fastiit's untombed :P
16:29.03Fisker-installer is digitally signed though
16:29.11Fisker-so likely not fake
16:29.14Fisker-http://i33.tinypic.com/23rp91v.jpg
16:29.21Fastiwhat timestamp?
16:29.38balstorit's a sad day I had to post on the forums for help :(
16:29.38Fisker-it's in the picture
16:29.40Fastiah
16:30.26Fastiye not the same at least
16:30.37Fastilink pls :P
16:31.10Fastiah piratebay seems to have one
16:31.41Fisker-that's what i said about a popular bay :P
16:32.12Fastithe uploader is a newbie thou
16:32.33Fastior actually very old newbie
16:33.10Fisker-:3?
16:33.11Fastiwonder why it is 7.7GB
16:33.17Fastiksjon?
16:33.25Obelixprimehi, is there a way to see where my error text is being redirected/what is supressing it?
16:33.57Fisker-Fasti it's EU :P
16:34.08Fastiye? I'm eu!
16:34.17Fastithe beta client is only 2GB
16:34.21Fisker-Apparently they've changed multilanguage systems
16:34.23Fastiwhy such difference
16:34.25Matrix110wow-wotlk-eu.iso that one Fisker-?
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16:34.27Fisker-Which makes everything fill a lot more
16:34.30Fisker-yeah Matrix110
16:34.35Fasti?
16:34.38Fisker-Fasti the system wasn't in when the beta started
16:34.46Fisker-Just try to compare the recent EU and US patches
16:34.50Fisker-EU patches are almost double in size
16:34.54Matrix1101 seed? :P
16:34.59Fisker-due to this new way of doing multilanguage
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16:35.13Fisker-Had 3 before
16:35.23Fisker-Maybe they're hit & runners but others should be done soon as well then
16:35.32Fastiwonder if my client will work then :P
16:36.46Fisker-as far as i know the system was adopted during beta
16:36.48Fisker-so should work fine
16:37.03Fisker-may even be that they have packed the ELP's as well
16:37.12Fisker-But we won't know until we have downloaded
16:37.42Fastibut there's only been  ~800megs of patches.. 2GB+that isn't anywhere near 7.7 :P
16:37.44Fisker-Or perhaps the WotLK DvD provides a more significant upgrade path than the beta
16:37.54Fisker-WotLK beta can only be upgraded from 2.4.3
16:38.11Fastioh yeah.. that means
16:38.12Fisker-But the retail version may be upgradeable from Vanilla/TBC
16:38.18nevcairielthe dvd will alow you to do 2.x -> 3.0.1
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16:38.23nevcairielneeds TBC
16:38.31Fasti+1GB more
16:38.35Fisker-not official yet!1
16:38.43Fasti2.x ? 2.4.2   Full Patch (~1130Mb)
16:38.56Fastistill lacks ~3GB
16:39.03Fisker-I'm counting on leveling from 60-80 in deadwind pass
16:39.14nevcairielgood luck =P
16:40.39Pkekyo|err...can you get a wow account online these days?
16:40.40Pkekyo|ie. not have to go to the bloody store to buy a WoW and TBC copy?
16:40.43Fasti+1.3GB if 3.0.3 patches
16:40.56FastiPkekyo|: yep
16:41.00Pkekyo|Fasti: how?
16:41.13Fastigamersloot.net works at least
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16:41.34Fastibought TBC from there
16:41.48Pkekyo|I was more thinking of something more official...
16:41.58Fastiit's an official store :P
16:42.13nevcairielblizz doesnt do it themselv officially yet
16:42.28Fastishops pay blizzard
16:42.46nevcairielshops pay vivendi
16:42.56nevcairielor "activision-blizzard"
16:43.37Fasti2.4.3 ? 3.0.1   (Classic) Incremental (~2xxx MiB) that's the beta I guess
16:43.50Fastiuups
16:43.51Fasticlassic
16:43.54Fastinm
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16:53.52Fastihmmmm
16:53.54Fastilol
16:54.02Fastifeedback/bug report tool
16:54.04Fasti><
16:54.12Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r26 / (2 files in 1 directory): indexing correction and attendance tier changes
16:54.13FastiI'm having doubts
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17:07.38Repo10achievement-ranking: 03kunda 04v1.031 * r15 : Tagging as v1.031
17:08.06Gnarfozgit gui is killing me
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17:09.45GnarfozFisker-: so you agree that a certain bay's wotlk.iso looks legit?
17:09.52Gnarfozwtb MD5 of it or something
17:12.15Fisker-I agree that it looks legit
17:13.47FastiI will wait for more
17:14.25Fastiwant to get rid of this bug/feedback tool :P
17:15.32GnarfozFasti: wait for more what?
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17:16.10Fastimore torrents from it
17:16.14Slaymanhai guys
17:16.20Fastior actually someone who has completed it
17:16.20Fisker-Just remove Blizzard_FeedbackUI
17:16.21Fisker-duh
17:16.26Fastiit comes back
17:16.32Fisker-Remove it from the MPQ it's in
17:16.36Fastiah
17:16.37charon... haunting you forever!
17:17.01Fisker-Should be done in 2 hours here
17:17.06Fisker-barring any unforseen consequences
17:17.13Fastihow many seeds?
17:17.17Fastias I only saw 1 there
17:17.31Fisker-2 According to my client
17:17.52Fisker-Most should be done in about an hour i guess
17:17.57Fisker-it's around 90% available now
17:18.26Fisker-When it hits 100% shit is gonna hit some fans etc.
17:18.26Fastiavg completetion?
17:18.27Fastihow much the most of the peers have?
17:18.41Fisker-yeah
17:19.27Gnarfozit was much faster yesterday evening
17:19.33Gnarfozbut I'm limited to my home adsl right now
17:19.43Gnarfozwould be loads faster on my 100/100 line ^^
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17:22.09Slaymananyone of you knows an addon, that like Bagnon_Forever tracks the guildbank contents of my toons?
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17:24.20GnarfozFisker-: more speed plx! to the intertubes!
17:25.04Fisker-we can't
17:25.08Fisker-Ted Stevens is in prison
17:27.17charon"Prison, it's not like a big building, it's more like a series of cubes." (stolen from /. comments)
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17:29.28Gnarfozcharon: rofl
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17:31.17Daemoenwhich channel is it for the auctioneer group, anyone remember?
17:32.40asmodainorganna?
17:33.29asmodaislayman: altolic, bankitems, combuctor (which uses bagnon)
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17:40.03CamciIs there a way to get the line to start on the edge? I think it was like the before but after an update i cant get it back there :p Im using Prat: http://i33.tinypic.com/2gvk1tc.jpg
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17:40.27Fastimeh
17:40.43Fastimy beta client updated my macros with old ones
17:40.56nevcairielheh
17:41.18Fastiand the .bak ones didn't work ><
17:43.05Fastiall my new macros with 3form abilities in them gone ><
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17:45.40Slaymanasmodai: I use Bagnon with forever, but on my bank alt with his own guild it doesn't track anything in the Guild Bank
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17:50.40DezzimalDaemoen: #norganna for technical stuff, and #wowuidev for chatter
17:50.51Dezzimalnot the addon, the concept of general banter
17:51.59Fastidominos totally not working?
17:52.20Fastithe configure mode is not working
17:54.51sztanpetFisker- are you getting anything since 89% on the wotlk dvd
17:55.04Fisker-not gotten that far yet
17:55.12Fisker-download isn\t that fast here >*
17:55.14Fisker-:(
17:55.57Gnarfozsztanpet: check the availability, the swarm is not saturated further than that
17:56.03sztanpetaye
17:56.04CrazyBennysztanpet: be patient young padawan
17:56.12Gnarfozit's at 0.901, I'm at 89.8%
17:56.17Gnarfozso... just a little while longer ;)
17:56.26GnarfozAckis: ping
17:56.51Slaymanwant rs.com links for addon dvd, european version?
17:57.18sztanpetim only at 10%, i was wondering wether the tracker doesnt show me enough seeders or there arent any
17:57.21Gnarfozrs sucks :< just get the torrent :D
17:57.33Fastirightclick just doesn't work in dominos config
17:57.38Slaymanrs does not suck, if you've premium
17:57.57asmodaiI don't get this combuctor behaviour...
17:58.22Slaymanasmodai: what behavior is that? mine?
17:59.22Fastigoes silent
18:01.38Repo10glassunitframes: 03h3nrym2 * r8 GlassUnitFrames.lua: Fixed Stack Overflow error
18:08.36asmodaino no
18:08.39asmodaiwhen I open the bank
18:08.50asmodaiI often cannot left click an item with combuctor to pick it up
18:08.58asmodaifirst have to switch back and forth to another tab
18:09.31Repo10glassunitframes: 03h3nrym2 * r9 GlassUnitFrames.lua: Update
18:10.52AckisGnarfoz: pong (was sexing up the gf)
18:10.55Repo10nobility-console: 03ciscoh * r61 GuildManagementTools/Development/: removed dev notes folder
18:11.41TorhalAckis: I hope you don't dryhump...
18:11.42Torhal:D
18:11.44GnarfozAckis: oh noes, TMI TMI
18:11.59GnarfozAckis: lol j/k. can you assign a wowaceSVN project to me?
18:12.18Ackissure project?
18:12.23GnarfozAckis: checked with the original author in the mean time and he's fine with it
18:12.28Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1048 Locals/ARLLocals-zhTW.lua: Ackis Recipe List:
18:12.28Gnarfoz@project dont-bug-me
18:12.28Repo- Full zhTW translation by andy52005
18:12.28RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/dont-bug-me/. DontBugMe. Game: WoW. Status: Out of date. Imported from wowace SVN project DontBugMe. Leader: wowaceSVN. Updated: 40 days ago
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18:13.08Ackiswhat's your curse username?
18:13.11GnarfozAckis: wowace username sadly still is '8tImER' /glare Kaelten
18:13.13fewynhttp://img243.imageshack.us/img243/4232/hahahazi6bk3.jpg
18:13.27AckisGnarfoz: use the form to submit a name change
18:13.39Ackis(if you haven't)
18:13.48Ackisand it's assigned, who's the original author?
18:14.43GnarfozMoonsorrow
18:14.43Adirellehrm... how do you show the blizzard timer frame from commandline ?
18:14.43GnarfozAckis: nothing happens. I mailed him twice in the early days before the actual switch, then I had ckk loosen up the regex on the 'old username' field because my username actually isn't one you could create right now... still, nothing :(
18:14.43GnarfozAdirelle: /timer?
18:14.49AckisGnarfoz: adding authors is broked... it's kinda my policy (personal policy) to have the original author on the project
18:15.10AdirelleGnarfoz: thx
18:15.42GnarfozAckis: Iunno :?
18:15.52Stanzillarofl fewyn
18:15.59fewynawesome isn't it Stanzilla?
18:16.16Torhalfewyn: Someone had some time on their hands :)
18:16.17Stanzillayes it is :P
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18:16.55fewynIt wasn't me, it was posted in OOT in Alla
18:17.00fewynon Alla*
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18:18.58harlanyone knows if it could be the curse client that opens an empty google search page in my browser when i leave my place for a while (aprox. 30 minutes)?
18:22.36mitchnullanyone got a "localization-santitizer" script? :)
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18:23.46mitchnullsomething that clears out any lines from the localizations that have no corresponding entriies in the default (enUS) locale, and adds the missing ones commented out or something
18:24.47BelazorZhinjio: ping
18:25.25ulicharl: I run CC and a browser and I don't get empty google pages.
18:25.41Fisker-y so srs?
18:25.58Groktarpounces Fisker-
18:26.30Repo10glassunitframes: 03h3nrym2 * r10 GlassUnitFrames.lua: Health Bar colour change fixed.
18:26.30harlulic: ok, thanks.
18:27.10Fastihmm.. my error messages are gone
18:27.28Fastiwant them back x-x
18:30.39Adirellehave domino some known issue with possess bar ?
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18:30.56Fastiwhy isn't my fubar working aswell..
18:31.17Repo10glassunitframes: 03h3nrym2 * r11 GlassUnitFrames.toc: Health Bar color change fixed.
18:31.17RepoUninstall Color HealthBar addon if installed.
18:31.31balstorif you set the bar legth to one aka 120 bars then the possess bar will only change one button and not auto span the 12 bars as expected
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18:32.24Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6751685355&sid=1#4 <-fail
18:32.39Fisker-so 1 hour left Fasti :3
18:32.44balstorif anyone is real bored with AceDB-3.0 I could use a bug help: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=252236#post252236
18:34.24Fastizzzz what addon supresses error messages?
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18:34.48balstorI use swatter
18:35.06Fastisomething implemented in some "major" addon
18:35.24Kilrooswatter comes with Auctioneer, doesn't it?
18:35.30balstoryes
18:35.35Fastidont have that
18:35.54Fastihappened after I runned wotlk beta on live server
18:36.14Fastithen my macros got fked, and no error msg on my wow-live client
18:36.46Groktarcurls up in Fasti's lap and goes to sleep
18:36.53balstorhttp://zip.norganna.org/libs/!Swatter/!Swatter-latest.zip
18:37.37balstormacros will get fucked if you log in from diffrent clients into the same account cause the macro storage on the server was coded by fucking retarded monkeys
18:37.42Groktarmmmm
18:37.58Groktari think i'm going to watch Harold and Kumar go to White Castle in some 1080p goodness
18:38.07Fastiye, I'm redoing it, but I need my error messages
18:38.23Repo10dont-bug-me: 038tImER * r35 / (4 files in 2 directories):
18:38.24Repo- basically rewrite the 'entire thing', it's only a couple of lines anyway
18:38.25Repo- removed Ace2
18:38.25Repo- used ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter from patch 2.4 instead
18:39.30Fastiprat doesn't do it?
18:40.58Fastibtw, I'm on about "out of range" error msg etc :)
18:41.33TorhalFasti, are you using a quest addon? I seem to remember a forum thread addressing that
18:42.28Fastimm questfu active
18:43.12TorhalYup: FOund the post. Someone said that was doing it
18:43.29Torhal"I can confirm this: it was Fubar - QuestFu for me (which is a predecessor of BetterQuest).
18:43.29Torhal"
18:43.40Fastiyeye works
18:43.45TorhalNoice.
18:43.52TorhalTry QuestGuru.
18:44.37Repo10ld50_armor: 03shaten * r34 / (4 files in 2 directories): LD50_armor:
18:44.38Repo- Initial Conversion to Ace3
18:44.38Repo- Ace3-DB is somewhat brain dead may revert that to Ace2
18:46.23Repo10dont-bug-me: 038tImER * r36 Libs/: - kill libs folder
18:47.45Fastinah, dont need any quest thing
18:51.51Repo10dont-bug-me: 038tImER 042.0 * r37 : Version 2.0, now with even less code.
18:53.38Repo10range-display: 03mitch0 * r198 / (3 files in 2 directories): implemented backrop selection
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19:06.27Fisker-so close Fasti
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19:09.46Fisker-Your time is almost up Fasti
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19:21.02FastiFisker-??
19:21.43Fastiit's up when you are playing with it :P w/o bug/feedback tool :P
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19:23.25Repo74d64d9: Merge commit '3.0.3.2-Beta'
19:23.26evlAnyone know if there is any other way of grinding Exodar rep after you've done the starting zone quests? I'm half way into Revered but it seems like the only option now is Runecloth-o-Rama
19:23.27Repo8109025: Weekly build 3.0.3.2-Beta
19:23.28Repod04588b: Update changelog for 3.0.3.2-Beta
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19:23.40FtH|Daemonaevl turnin @ alterac
19:23.44evlnope
19:23.48evlthey changed that, only gives IF rep
19:24.05FtH|Daemonathey removed the spill-over?
19:24.15evlI only get 10 IF rep for one armor turnin
19:24.21evland 75 for each Storm Crystal
19:24.23evlnothing else
19:24.38evlWhich makes it pretty impossible to reach exalted without insane grinding of Runecloth :(/
19:25.31sztanpetwhy is that a problem
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19:25.38JaxonOkay
19:25.41JaxonLets play a quick game
19:25.42Jaxonhttp://jaxon.ca/gotcrabs.jpg
19:26.04sztanpetchat ui!
19:26.09evlsztanpet: Because at current prices it would take me about 3500 gold to get 10k rep? :P
19:26.21pentium166evl: have you done all the dun morogh quests?
19:26.31sztanpetevl your grinding rep, why would you let that stop you
19:26.46FtH|Daemonaerhm if i recall correctly you should get repu for all capital cities once you are exalted with ironforge ?
19:26.55Fisker-what addon is that Jaxon
19:26.55evlSo
19:26.59evlI need to get to exalted with IF first
19:27.01FtH|Daemonaat least thats the way it worked for me with av (horde side)
19:27.03evland then I get soillover?
19:27.07JaxonFisker-: yes?  There are a few in there.
19:27.16Fisker-duh
19:27.18Fisker-The fishing one
19:27.20FtH|Daemonanot sure, because i was exalted with all but silvermoon for quite some time
19:27.29Jaxonevl: as far as I know you get spillover all the time it just doesn't display.
19:27.33Fisker-I was exalted with silvermoon pre-expansion, wee!
19:27.43Fisker-But then i rerolled belf and were like /headdesk
19:27.44pentium166I got exalted with Stormwind and Exodar on my shaman from doing all the night elf and dwarf starting quests and normal leveling
19:27.49JaxonFisker-: FishingAce or something.  Wait, no, FishingBuddy
19:27.50evloh
19:27.54FtH|Daemonawhich expansion are you talking bout WotlK Fisker- ? ;)
19:27.59Fisker-TBC
19:28.04evlSo I need to do all starting areas
19:28.09evloO
19:28.13Fisker-Got exalted with Silvermoon before the release of TBC
19:29.03Fisker-You can shit bricks now if you want
19:29.04Fisker->E
19:29.05Fisker-:E
19:29.13ulicanyone know for sure which raid instances will be active when WotLK will be live, I know Naxx is.
19:29.18JaxonI need to get my Silvermoon rep up as well.  And I never grinded Darkspear at 60 because I AM a troll.  Now I don't know if I want to bother farming that much Runecloth.
19:29.45Fisker-There's malgyos and chamber of aspects
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19:29.52Fisker-and then the wintergrasp instance
19:30.01Fisker-those 4 should be open when WotLK goes live i believe
19:30.29ulicok, that's the best info I could find too, thanks.
19:31.07Repo10vanas-ko-s: 03Vana * r231 / (5 files in 2 directories): VanasKoS: fan update from Xilcoy, thanks to delsombras
19:31.11ulicand other than naxx, all those are single boss encounters, kinda interesting, wonder if they will get more content out before the top guilds finish all that.
19:31.31pentium166probably not the top guilds
19:31.39pentium166unless it's like, almost done already
19:31.41Fisker-That's why the achievements are there :P
19:31.53Fisker-or atleast that would be my guess
19:32.07evlDoes the combat log display spillover rep?
19:32.54asmodaiulic: Halls of Lightning
19:33.47asmodaiulic: actually, check dungeons @ http://www.mmo-champion.com/
19:34.20ulicasmodai: raids not dungeons, but yea, there's lots more dungeons.
19:35.58asmodaioh ok
19:36.12asmodaiSorry ,my mistake
19:36.21ulicno worries
19:36.48asmodaiseems about 4-6
19:38.13asmodaiNaxxramas, The Eye of Eternity, Vault of Archavon, Chamber of Aspects
19:38.27asmodaicoming: Ulduar, Azjol-Nerub, Icecrown Citadel
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19:40.47ulicoh, there is going to be a raid in Azjol-Nerub, hadn't seen anything on that one.
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19:43.30KriLL3is there an addon that seamlessly hides any communication from players bellow level x?
19:44.05RaydenUum
19:44.13RaydenUsomeone just posted on my guild forum asking for stories of cybering in wow
19:44.26KriLL3facepalm
19:45.26RaydenUi'm wondering if the account got hacked
19:45.31ulicKriLL3: I don't think so, because you have to /who them first to get their level, so to ignore them with already knowing them makes things not so clean.
19:45.38RaydenUalthough that seems like a relatively harmless thing to do
19:46.30KriLL3ulic: a shame really, 99% of spammers are level 1 and no addon that autoblocks spam keeps up quickly enough, you still get 1-2 a day
19:47.31ulicspam is pretty dead on my server, dunno why, just lucky I guess.
19:47.38RaydenUyeah i don't get much spam
19:47.41RaydenUi also don't hang out in org
19:47.57KriLL3random wispers about "how's your day?" etc is all that's left on mine
19:48.07KriLL3the yellers are gone
19:48.32Gnarfozjust use badboy :O
19:48.34RaydenUoh we get some yelling
19:48.35KriLL3they always wisper the same thing, and they're always level 1 warriors in elwynn forest
19:48.38KriLL3Gnarfoz: I am
19:48.39Gnarfozlevel based ignoring is not feasible
19:48.39RaydenUbut it's not really what i'd consider spam
19:48.54[SW]DodgeAntiarc: aieee didnt requip stuff after relogging as ghost :(
19:48.57KriLL3RaydenU: I meant gold seller stuff
19:49.13RaydenUyeah i don't see any more of that
19:49.17KriLL3Gnarfoz: Badboy doesn't catch those whispers
19:49.44GnarfozKriLL3: I'm certain. but again, level based ignoring is not feasible :\
19:50.00KriLL3it would be if blizz didn't require you to /who
19:50.09Gnarfozbut they do, so stop theorizing :p
19:50.15KriLL3an ingame setting to ignore everyone x levels bellow you or bellow level x would be nice
19:52.09RaydenUcould be pretty annoying
19:52.13RaydenUlvl 1 alts couldn't whisper anyone
19:52.34RaydenUor just require a lvl 1 to solve something before whispering :P
19:52.42RaydenUor you have to wait 10 seconds
19:53.13MegalonRaydenU: i wouldn't have any problems with it
19:53.21Megaloni would actuelly to set it to 68 or so :P
19:53.25Megalonactually ;o
19:53.34KriLL3me2
19:53.44KriLL3I don't have any use for communication with lower level players
19:53.58KriLL3and you could ofc turn it off/set an exception list etc
19:54.03KriLL3say buddys
19:54.43FastiFisker-: done yet?
19:55.02Fisker-just in a moment
19:55.06Fisker-at 99%
19:55.24RaydenUi don't mind talking to people
19:55.37RaydenUi've had someone msg me and ask me what kind of gear they should be looking for when levelign their druid
19:55.45Fastiinstalling it?
19:56.06Fisker-nah download
19:56.09Fasti><
19:56.19Fisker-Once i caught up with the swarm things started going slow :P
19:56.19Fisker-duh
19:56.25Fastihow many seeds?
19:56.33Fisker-still 2
19:56.47Fastihttp://forums.gamersloot.net/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=3701
19:57.10Fasti"my brother used this and he has no problems ." I doubt.. if he's not the seeder himself
19:57.46Fisker-duh it won't work with the US version btw
19:57.54FastiI'm eu
19:58.04Fisker-talking about the post there
19:58.25FastiI'm talking about legimity of the torrent :P
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19:58.58Megaloni know people who already got there CE
19:59.08Kilroodammit
19:59.12Kilrooeclipse won't run.
19:59.34Kilroowonder what I screwed up.
19:59.45Megalonjava installed? >:P
20:00.15KilrooIt was when I was using eclipse earlier before I installed the update. Not sure why it wouldn't be now.
20:00.16Fisker-bah Megalon
20:00.21Kilroomeh
20:00.28Kilroodon't feel like dealing with it.
20:01.19Repo10range-display: 03mitch0 * r199 RangeDisplay.toc: version bump
20:02.36Fisker-I hope i get my CE in advance as well Megalon
20:02.40Fisker-Though people here are like
20:02.49Fisker-"Oh teh noes if i break teh street date i'll be shot"
20:03.11robotuschwell, they would be
20:03.19robotuschFakse = Redneck country
20:03.24Megalonhttp://img1.abload.de/img/bildchen1z1wr.jpg
20:03.30Megalonthats what it looks like :P
20:03.47Fisker-no u robotusch
20:03.55Fisker-GERMANLAND OH NEIN
20:04.17Megalon*brabbelbrubbrlbrubrurblblublbublul*SAUERKRAUT*brabbelbrubbrlbrubrurblblublbublul*
20:04.31Megaloneven had sauerkraut today :7
20:04.35Megalonjummy
20:04.45Megalonerm, yummy :O
20:04.46[SW]DodgeAdirelle: ping :-)
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20:05.04GnarfozMegalon: /eat
20:05.26GnarfozMegalon: is that your CE?
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20:05.45Gnarfozif so, could you take an MD5 of the game disc? (hoping it's identical to the normal one)
20:06.00Gnarfozor rather of an iso image of the disc
20:06.12Gnarfozneed to check the legitimacy of this damn torrent :P
20:06.15Megalonnope, not mine
20:06.27HjalteIs Fires over Skettis bugged for druids? Or have you never been able to do it in flight form?
20:06.40GnarfozMegalon: too bad D:
20:07.08Megaloni'll be happy with my plain wotlk version too ;)
20:07.19charonHjalte: it was definitely possible to do the bombing runs in flight form
20:07.28Fisker-Seems like we might've been trolled Fasti
20:07.33Repo10nauticus: 03Drool * r80 / (3 files in 1 directory): Nauticus:
20:07.34Repo- tidy up request scheduler
20:07.35Repo- fix error when toggling faction/zone list filter
20:07.42GnarfozFisker-: does that include me, too? (i.e. the iso?)
20:08.03Fisker-For the moment everything is stuck at 99.5%
20:08.32Fisker-oh wait it's moving again :3
20:08.34MegalonFisker-: i'm at 99.6!
20:08.44Hjaltecharon: I forgot I was in a 2-man raid -.-
20:08.53charonhaha
20:09.03JaxonMy mouse button 2 isn't turning me or changing my camera.
20:09.04Jaxon...
20:09.08Fisker-Perhaps i should call the people responsible for my CE
20:09.15Fisker-and tell them they either send it today or i kill them tomorrow
20:09.30Fisker-srs bsns is srs
20:10.01robotuschWho you be ordering from?
20:10.07Fisker-softxchange of course
20:10.28robotuschsame as last time, where you got it 2 days after release? xD
20:10.30Megalonf y wnt t sv sm vwls y shld xcld thm ll!
20:10.44Fisker-I don't recall that being the case robotusch :3
20:10.44Megalonf yr trffc s s lmtd ;/
20:10.55GnarfozMegalon: you're dropping out
20:10.59Gnarfozplease speak up :p
20:11.16Fisker-i undertstood it :(
20:11.45Megalon:)
20:12.28Fisker-i didn't want to :(
20:13.53kenlyricis something up with CC? can't build an addon list
20:13.53Fisker-HE WHO CORRUPTS HIS WOW INSTALL FIRST CORRUPTS HIS WOW INSTALL BEST
20:13.58Fisker-gogogog
20:14.11robotusch:O
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20:16.43Fisker-why must EU policies suck though robotusch ?
20:16.58Fisker-If they allowed us to upgrade to CE we could just get the standard game first
20:17.01Fisker-and then the CE
20:17.04Fisker-MOAR MONEYS FOR THEM
20:17.07Fisker-:E
20:17.12Fisker-win win situation
20:18.32HunterZ0stupid useless curse updater won't download anything grr
20:19.09Fisker-we're so close :3
20:19.41Megalon99.9% :7
20:20.05Fisker-:6
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20:21.59kenlyricHunterZ0: well, good to know it's not just me.
20:22.22HunterZ0kenlyric: seems it can't talk to the site at all atm except to log in or something
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20:28.27Fisker-so close
20:28.33Fisker-and yet so far away, etc.
20:28.45CrazyBennyjust one more pieeeece...
20:28.49Matrix110mind numbbin 4% here already
20:28.55Matrix110fail
20:28.58Matrix110*numbing
20:29.15Fisker-i'm so done that i'm going to ruin my install
20:29.20kenlyriclordy
20:29.29kenlyricthe wowui client needs admin access to function
20:29.35kenlyricwtf
20:29.46KriLL3you run as a normal user?
20:29.47Fisker-HAH
20:29.48Fisker-new it
20:29.50Fisker-knew it*
20:29.58CrazyBennyyou just need to be registered, thats all
20:29.59kenlyricno, I don't
20:30.06Fisker-Fasti
20:30.07kenlyricbut it still need system level elevation
20:30.18CrazyBennyoh
20:30.20GnarfozFisker-: done, yay
20:30.25kenlyricwhich is dumb, because it's just an updater
20:30.29Fisker-http://i34.tinypic.com/2v9yequ.jpg
20:30.33Fisker-i were the rightests!
20:30.37Matrix110curse updater doesnt need elevated rights!
20:30.42kenlyricit does too
20:30.44GnarfozFisker-: it's in the FAQ.
20:30.45Matrix110no
20:30.50kenlyricit "takes" elevated rights
20:30.50Matrix110works totally fine here without
20:30.52kenlyricit may not need them
20:30.55GnarfozFisker-: you don't deserve to gloat if you don't rtfm :p
20:30.56Fisker-wut Gnarfoz ?
20:31.06kenlyricevery time I launch it I have to confirm that I really want to launch it
20:31.07Matrix110Well I mean UAC rights not just elevated ones
20:31.10GnarfozFisker-: that you can install the EU dvd on any language install. it's in the FAQ.
20:31.11kenlyriclike it's an install
20:31.27Matrix110kenlyric not the curse client if you didnt install to c:/programs atleast
20:31.28kenlyricbut it shouldn't act like that after the install
20:31.34Fisker-Been a new addition then Gnarfoz
20:31.36kenlyricI didn't say curse client
20:31.40kenlyriccurse client works fine
20:31.45GnarfozFisker-: dunno, it was there 2 days ago :\
20:31.45Matrix110the wowi does it I know
20:31.45Fisker-Even on the GM forums they've said you need to buy a german copy to work with german wow etc.
20:31.47Matrix110I wondered aswell
20:31.48kenlyricwowui client
20:32.02Matrix110Fisker- go!
20:32.04Matrix110install
20:32.07Fisker-i am
20:32.15Fisker-my velociraptor isn't working hard enough
20:32.26Fisker-punishes it
20:32.37Matrix110well the install takes 40-80mins :D
20:32.45Fisker-err no
20:32.49Fisker-halfway through
20:32.51Fisker-gone 2 mins or so
20:32.55Matrix110Oo
20:33.05Matrix110Beta install took ages here
20:33.18Fisker-also need to patch though :(
20:33.22Matrix110velociraptor raid 0?
20:33.25Fisker-nah
20:33.28Fisker-just velociraptor
20:33.31nevcairielbecause the beta had to copy the data from your live install
20:33.32Fisker-but it's HDD->HDD anyways
20:33.34nevcairielwhich takes ages
20:33.35Matrix110hmm that shouldnt speed it up that much
20:33.45Matrix110ah ye DVD install could take ages :D
20:33.50Matrix110DVD transfer speeds ftl
20:34.01Gnarfoziso image = dvd transfer irrelevant
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20:34.12Fisker-indeed
20:34.23GnarfozFisker-: then your german fails. they said on german forums that the language of your install is irrelevant
20:34.35Fisker-I don't read the german forums duh
20:34.46Gnarfozduhhhhh.
20:34.51Gnarfozinstall faster *whiplash*
20:34.52nevcairielknows a guy who knows a guy that is a supplier and will upload a dvd image on tuesday or so
20:34.53Odlawungh
20:35.08robotusch:O?
20:35.14Gnarfoznevcairiel: we're done downloading the dvd image today. you're late. :p
20:35.21Matrix110idd
20:35.28nevcairielGnarfoz: from some 3rd party page torrent
20:35.29nevcairielyay?
20:35.30nevcairiel:)
20:35.33Matrix110care? :P
20:35.40nevcairielBesides, what do i need it now :P
20:35.45Gnarfoznevcairiel: so your supplier is what, not a third party? :p look up the definition on that :p
20:35.45Matrix110to install it
20:35.56nevcairielGnarfoz: its not some evil torrent page :p
20:36.01Gnarfozsure, evil, :>
20:36.08OdlawWanting to make an addon that depends on one of auctioneer's addons.. Auc-Advanced |cff665555(core)   Do I really need to include the color code crap in my Dependencies list in the .toc ?
20:36.09Gnarfozthe page is absolutely irrelevant, as with all torrents.
20:36.26Gnarfozthe tracker doesn't have anything to do with the content. also, the installer is digitally signed
20:36.32Gnarfozand the only executable on the disc
20:36.33nevcairielI would rather trust one guy i know then one guy that seeded some random iso image
20:36.47nevcairieland i still get it in time :)
20:36.48GnarfozI'd like an md5 of an original disc, too
20:36.51Gnarfozbut then...
20:36.54Gnarfozwho to trust
20:37.18Fisker-Does that mean you trust me nevcairiel? :3
20:37.23nevcairielFisker-: neva
20:37.26Fisker-:(
20:37.28Fisker-i want nehalem
20:37.37nevcairielFisker-: neva either
20:37.48Matrix110The nehalem boards a sexy
20:37.51Matrix110giev
20:38.08KriLL3are the mobos a lot cheaper since they essentially don't need a north bridge?
20:38.12Matrix110no
20:38.20Matrix110x58 = highend chipset
20:38.23Matrix110only expensive boards :D
20:38.24Gnarfozthe only thing that moved is the memory controller, anyway
20:38.28Matrix110there is no consumer chip atm
20:38.28KriLL3well not atm since they're enthusiast price markup... but later
20:38.29nevcairielyeah
20:38.33nevcairielstill needs the bus controllers
20:38.42Fisker-it's annoying that the music stops when you alt+tab over :(
20:38.51KriLL3isn't that done in the south bridge?
20:38.58nevcairielnah
20:39.01Fisker-baww
20:39.06nevcairielnorth bridge is all the high-perf stuff
20:39.07KriLL3Fisker-: that's an option in the game
20:39.07Fisker-i forgot to "Upgrade account online"
20:39.11Fisker-then i could camp the upgrade link
20:39.16nevcairielmemory controller, PCI-Express Bus, CPU Bus
20:39.16Fisker-no KriLL3 i mean the wotlk installer
20:39.17Fisker-not in-game
20:39.20KriLL3ah
20:39.26KriLL3installer? from where?
20:39.34Fisker-a pretty know bay of pirates
20:39.37Matrix110well its failure that the southbridge still exists though:P
20:39.38Fisker-that's all i'm going to say
20:39.38KriLL3ah
20:39.42Fisker-my mouth is sealed
20:40.02KriLL3but you'll still need an upgraded account and servers =P
20:40.11Fisker-of course
20:40.23Fisker-but better have the install ready when it's time than spend an hour on that
20:40.26KriLL3and atm I guess the only way to upgrade your account is buying it in the store
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20:40.37KriLL3Fisker-: if it is the proper installer
20:40.44Fisker-I'm done installing
20:40.48Fisker-so it is
20:40.57KriLL3copied your wow folder?
20:41.00KriLL3and installed on that?
20:41.01Fisker-no
20:41.03Matrix110KriLL3 there are dozens of shops that sends you the key at 0:01 and send you the game after that
20:41.05Fisker-just installed on it
20:41.16KriLL3Fisker-: doesn't that break the current game?
20:41.19Matrix110no
20:41.21Fisker-apparently not
20:41.26KriLL3Matrix110: I'll do the store opening event stuff
20:41.45KriLL3I'm getting the CE
20:41.50Matrix110well if you live close to that I would go there aswell although the idea to be inside a crowd of idiots:P omg
20:42.03Gnarfozyou'd be one of them
20:42.05Gnarfoz:>>
20:42.07KriLL3I was there for TBC also, was fun
20:42.34Matrix110Gnarfoz I meant the casuals :P
20:42.47Matrix110They arent geekish enough to shut up about WoW in the RL
20:42.48Gnarfozthey go there? I doubt it
20:42.54GnarfozFisker-: https://upgrade.wow-europe.com/installer/index.xml?product=WLK&locale=enGB&trial=0&promo=0 bookmark it. :>
20:42.54Matrix110they do...
20:42.56KriLL3a load of different backpack wearing guys & girls came along with free candy & energy drinks etc
20:43.00KriLL3they do
20:43.09KriLL3but they're at the bottom end of the line, I was at the top last time
20:43.13KriLL3and plan on being again
20:43.18Fisker-fucking saved as they say Gnarfoz
20:43.23KriLL3we got showered with free swag, candy etc :>
20:43.31GnarfozFisker-: indeed.
20:43.49Matrix110would like a CE but every goddamn shop sold out like 30mins after they announced the release date here -.-
20:43.57Matrix110And I cba to go to some store at 0:01
20:43.58Matrix110:D
20:43.59KriLL3I pre-ordered it months ago
20:44.16KriLL3I got the 2 other CEs so I kinda have to get the third
20:44.29nevcairielI didnt find a shop here that let you pre-order it
20:44.35Matrix110same
20:44.44Matrix110atleast before they announced the release I mean
20:44.52nevcairielyeah
20:44.52Matrix110and they knew how many CEs they get
20:44.53KriLL3nevcairiel: I just walked into my local gamestop and put down the cash for it
20:44.55Fisker-It's a shame though
20:45.00Fisker-most stores here are milking the CE
20:45.02Matrix110Amazon CEs were sold out in like 10mins :D
20:45.11nevcairielthey put the CE up in september or something
20:45.14Fisker-because they know people who just have to get it because they have gotten the previous ones
20:45.15nevcairielsold out after a few mins
20:45.18Gnarfozpatching 3.0.1 -> 3.0.2 takes longer than installing LK
20:45.19Fisker-So they double the price
20:45.19Gnarfozdamnit
20:45.20Fisker-:E
20:45.27Matrix110Fisker- yeah some stores here sold the TBC CE for 200€ :D
20:45.30Fisker-ownt Gnarfoz
20:45.56Matrix110But tbh for 70€ I think the amount of goodies in the CE is to low
20:46.04Matrix110Fallout3 CE has more and its a fullprice title
20:46.07BlimeWill WotLK be for sale and download from wow.com? I heard some rumors...
20:46.14Fisker-It will
20:46.17Repo10fu-bar_vanas-ko-sfu: 03Vana * r29 / (3 files in 1 directory): o made it work again
20:46.19nevcairielnot on release, though
20:46.20Fisker-Don't need rumors for that
20:46.30BlimeHow long after release?
20:46.36Fisker-noone knows
20:46.38nevcairielsome time
20:46.40Matrix110They arent allowed to do it on release day prolly by the big publishers
20:46.41BlimeAh okay
20:46.43Repo10vanas-ko-s: 03Vana * r232 VanasKoS.toc: VanasKoS: updated toc
20:46.46Matrix110and retailers
20:46.49KriLL3Matrix110: exactly
20:46.49nevcairielvivendi wants to milk the shop sales
20:46.55BlimeI was planning on walking into a Walmart at midnight   ;-)
20:47.16KriLL3that's the big problem with digital distribution, the old and dying retail stores will never let go of release sales
20:47.25nevcairielscrew them
20:47.27Repo10nobility-console: 03ciscoh * r62 GuildManagementTools (3 files in 1 directory): changed to stand alone menu
20:47.28Repochange Core.lua to GuildManagementTools.lua
20:47.30KriLL3they'll have to be pried from their cold dead hands
20:47.43Gnarfozoverused phrase much
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20:48.01KriLL3nowai
20:48.03Matrix110Digital Download is fine but the problem is its NOT cheaper and it has to be cheaper ffs I will always order games I buy at Amazon if the DD is not cheaper
20:48.26nevcairielyou pay for the lazyness
20:48.26KriLL3Matrix110: main reason they're not cheaper is agreements with retailers again
20:48.31Matrix110I know
20:48.48KriLL3it's gonna change sooner or later
20:48.52KriLL3it's always like that
20:49.00nevcairielYou pay for being lazy and getting it instantly, nothing wrong with that =P
20:49.31KilrooLet's see...AI has party pets...Arvak has target of target of target...Caellian has all the other units I want...
20:49.35KriLL3well you're less secure since you don't have a physical copy, you don't get the printed stuff like manual/cover etc to look at etc
20:49.48Repo10vanas-ko-s: 03Vana 04v3.1 * r233 : VanasKoS: tagging as v3.1
20:50.44Repo10fu-bar_vanas-ko-sfu: 03Vana 04v0.3 * r30 : tagging as v0.3
20:50.45KriLL3if the distribution platform you used becomes obsolete your purchase in most cases go bye-bye
20:51.01nevcairieljust use Steam
20:51.02nevcairiel;)
20:51.04KriLL3...
20:51.12KriLL3I'm allergic to steam
20:51.20Matrix110I dont like Steam although its good :P
20:51.21nevcairielthe platform isnt bad
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20:51.55Matrix110Fisker- how big is the final install with wotlk?
20:52.01KriLL3how does everyone and their mother loose their accounts on it all the time? or is that their own fault for not having firewall/AV etc?
20:52.06Matrix110need to know if I have to deinstall more games :D
20:52.19KriLL3Matrix110: well the installer is 7GB~
20:52.21nevcairielMatrix110: about 15GB
20:52.30KriLL3and you should always leave a lot of space on partitions anyway...
20:52.48KriLL3if it's nearly full you'll get performance issues
20:52.57KriLL310-20% free is the rule of thumb
20:53.04Matrix110no shit :P
20:53.09trhum.. how long should it take curse.com to updated after a svn commit?
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20:53.26KriLL3trh: depends on what kind of mood it's in
20:53.26Megalonyea, betaclient was ~15gb
20:53.39Megalonand live should around the same then
20:53.42trhKriLL3: what's a good average?
20:53.50KriLL3trh: no idea
20:54.04Fisker-fail
20:54.09Fisker-i thought they said that the intro wasn't done
20:54.13Matrix110I made my Games partition in the "2-3CDs max" games time :D
20:54.17KriLL3Fisker-: it is? :)
20:54.28KriLL3Matrix110: ouch
20:54.29trhKriLL3: ah.. seems fast.. like 5 minutes
20:54.36Matrix110Its only 41GB
20:54.47asmodaipats Steam
20:54.49Fisker-KriLL3 people complained about the intro
20:54.53asmodainever had much issues with it
20:54.54Fisker-and blues said it wasn't done
20:54.55KriLL3Matrix110: mine's 405GB
20:54.59Matrix110Using another Partition already for Games but the one WoW is installed in will stay that big
20:55.00KriLL3but that's apps/games
20:55.06Fisker-But it's the same as the one they released
20:55.19EvilJohnhm, curse client not connecting for anyone else?
20:55.26KriLL3Fisker-: did the beta have the LK intro? didn't see it
20:55.27KillmoreEvilJohn: same
20:55.31EvilJohnroger that
20:55.32Fisker-i don't think so
20:55.39Fisker-but the intro was released to the web
20:55.50KriLL3the dragon flying over skellies video isn't the intro right?
20:56.02Matrix110no
20:56.02Fisker-hmm
20:56.04KriLL3or is it?
20:56.06KriLL3kk
20:56.09Fisker-technically the zeps to northrend should be in :D
20:56.09Gnarfoznevcairiel: btw, it's pretty easy to verify that this is indeed a trustable and legit dvd image. because it's 3.0.1, you have to patch up again, and those patchers verify integrity while patching. and they work fine. :)
20:56.14Matrix110the Intro is the Arthas comes out of his temple thingy
20:56.17Matrix110and something happens
20:56.20Fisker-unless they changed zeps
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20:57.36nevcairielGnarfoz: meh i still wont bother if i can FTP it in 2 days =P
20:57.44Matrix110QQ
20:57.59KriLL3will take a total of 2 hours for me
20:58.00Gnarfoznevcairiel: yeah, but then, not everyone has access to that ^^
20:59.10Matrix110FTP has fullspeed torrent has fullspeed (yeah with 2mbit thats not hard) so who cares torrent is done tomorrow morning :P
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20:59.54Gnarfoz;>
21:00.10Fisker-bawww
21:00.11Gnarfozthat torrent will take off in the days to come, I'm sure of it
21:00.13Fisker-they fixed zeps :(
21:00.26KriLL3fixed?
21:00.43Fisker-At a point they were clientside
21:00.49KriLL3Matrix110: torrent isn't maxing for me :/
21:00.55KriLL3?
21:01.02Matrix110KriLL3 I have 2mbit....
21:01.09KriLL3I have 24Mbit
21:01.10Matrix110everything is fullspeed for me
21:01.11Matrix110:D
21:01.13CrazyBennyso you can play with wotlk installed without any problems?
21:01.17Fisker-yeah
21:01.18Matrix110yes CrazyBenny
21:01.22KriLL3CrazyBenny: I'll not take the chance
21:01.28CrazyBennygood good
21:01.37KriLL3blizz might be annoyed and flip a switch somewhere
21:01.52Matrix110nah
21:01.54Matrix110they dont care
21:02.02KriLL3I'll install it when I leave to the midnight open thing
21:02.06Matrix110they dont care about that torrent either
21:02.20KriLL3well since it's useless without a key ofc they don't
21:02.21Matrix110TBC I installed the client days before aswell
21:02.42KriLL3though I guess in theory people could use it with a private server
21:04.11CrazyBennywell, most people I know have moved from private servers to official ones...the shitty emulators are good advertisment for wow aswell :p
21:04.31Killmoreso, using the beta client like http://www.worldofraids.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19645 "should" work fine?
21:04.43KriLL3isn't the server end software just as complex as the main game anyway? I can't see how a third party could accurately replicate that  
21:05.08KriLL3Killmore: doubt you can update it with patches
21:05.58balstorfunnilly the big expense in any mmo is graphic assets, the server code is maybe 3 on the list with thr client being number 2
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21:06.27KriLL3balstor: errm, isn't the actual bandwidth costs a lot higher than the development costs?
21:06.59FastiFisker-: virusscanned it? :)
21:07.13balstorhmm I hadn't estimated the bandwidth cost but wow is about56k per client so hmm have to check
21:07.49balstorI know in the ddata centers i use there is no charge for bandwidth but then again i'm not deploying an mmo
21:08.21Pneumatusooh, they fixed pets autocasts getting reset all the time then
21:08.46KriLL3server hardware should also be a large cost
21:09.02KriLL3and staff to maintain it
21:09.40Repo10dr-damage: 03Dally1991 06wrath-clone * r745 Data/Priest.lua: DrDamage:
21:09.41Repo- Small priest fix for Shadowform
21:10.37Belazorless spriest moar paladin
21:10.51Fisker-wtf is that cloud thing for priests?
21:10.52Fisker-no Fasti
21:10.56Fisker-no need to
21:10.59Fastiscan pls :P
21:11.21Pneumatusdispersion, Fisker-?
21:11.31robotuschHoly Hymn!
21:11.35KriLL3just wait for it to end, then nuke agian
21:11.41robotuschMost useless spell ingame
21:11.48Fisker-i'm a paladin :3
21:11.50KriLL3well it's still annoying in pvp
21:11.54Fisker-and nevers robotusch
21:12.31Pneumatusi see they want to nerf circle of healing again
21:12.34Belazoryou don't count fisker-, you're a gayadin XD
21:12.47Pneumatusrather than just fixing the fact that its better to use that than flash heal if its gonna hit more than 1 person
21:12.54*** part/#wowace Tesla6 (n=Owner@bas1-streetsville39-1279744926.dsl.bell.ca)
21:13.14robotuschFisker-, was the LK client working with current live?
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21:13.27Fisker-yes
21:13.27*** mode/#wowace [-r] by Funkeh`
21:13.50Fastivirusscan? :)
21:13.53Fisker-no
21:13.57Fastiwhy? :)
21:14.12Fisker-because i don't need to
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21:14.13Zyndromelawl :/
21:14.22FastiI can't download multiple times, I can only download once ><
21:14.35Fastithen I have used my limit
21:14.39robotuschhm, might as well install it then, before I let loose on farming the last Sporeggar rep
21:14.42Zyndromeall this messing around, and some tinkering, I find that the vent-server really is dead, but the status-page still says it's Healthy
21:15.14Zyndromegrmlgglrgmgr
21:16.09Slaymanback to the case, anyone knows an addon that let's me view my other toons Guild Bank? not the Bank but the Guild bank of my 1man mule-toon-guild?`
21:16.33sztanpetso Fisker- its confirmed huh?
21:19.05Fisker-of course
21:19.17sztanpet<3
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21:19.33Fisker-i wonder though
21:19.41Fisker-there doesn't seem to be any mac executables or whatever
21:19.58HjalteSlayman: BankItems
21:20.31Fisker-WTF
21:20.32SlaymanHjalte: thx i'm gonna give that a try
21:20.35Fisker-where did blizzard learn xml?
21:20.42Repo10range-display: 03mitch0 * r200 / (2 files in 1 directory): - fixed lock/unlock problems
21:20.43Repo- added LibDataBroker to embeds.xml, too (should be only in embeds.xml, but it doesn't have a disembedded version...)
21:21.35Fisker-http://ace.pastey.net/101059-1lml
21:21.45leech2kdoes /n work in lua?
21:22.24SlaymanCC appears to be broken, or at least unwilling to DL
21:22.28leech2knm \n
21:23.24SlaymanHjalte: you positive that it'll display GUILDbank? doesn't look like it
21:23.29Slayman~seen Xinhuan
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21:23.37Repo10range-display: 03mitch0 04v3.1-beta7 * r201 : Tagging v3.1-beta7
21:23.37SlaymanXinhuan: , ping
21:23.38Repo- major update: optional background display
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21:24.03Slaymandamn
21:24.06laegany thoughts on the best 2 pvp professions for a rogue?
21:24.06FroMasterSlayman: I'm also having trouble downloading
21:24.22laegi think it used to be JC and enchanting
21:24.22Repo10glassunitframes: 03h3nrym2 * r12 / (2 files in 1 directory):
21:24.23RepoFixed a problem when the addon 'Titan Panel' is used. Unit frames will now be positioned properly.
21:24.37SlaymanFroMaster: let's assume that CC is currently not working as intended, it's not you nor me
21:30.28HjalteSlayman: 100% positive.
21:30.51Fastiusing performanceFU cpu thingie, is fubar really using 13%cpu time?
21:31.04KriLL3I'm still doing manual from ace/wowinterface
21:31.18Fastior is performanceFU using fubar somehow?
21:31.27KriLL3makes sense
21:31.31SlaymanHjalte: yeah I read up on it due to the fact that CC is not working, thanks, now i hope i can minimize redundancy of features with Bagnon
21:31.48XinhuanSlayman: pong
21:32.21KriLL3anyone else have an issue were your bars turn normal colored (in range) but using the ability you get "out of range"?
21:32.29AdirelleKaelten: ping ?
21:32.30SlaymanXinhuan: sorry to have bothered, you wanted to ask sth but it was explained by Hjalte
21:32.32KriLL3just at the edge of rage
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21:35.43SlaymanKriLL3: What Bar Addon
21:35.48KriLL3bt4
21:35.51mitchnullkrill3: yep. guess the final "definitive" range check is done server side
21:36.08KriLL3mitchnull: can't the bar be set to err on the side of caution?
21:36.17mitchnullno
21:36.21KriLL3:\
21:36.32mitchnullas it gets the ranges from the API, too, and the API lies
21:36.40KriLL3lies, all lies!
21:37.22KriLL3can't you subtract like 3 yards from what the API says though?
21:37.22robotuschrhaa, I'm missing the obvious here
21:37.37KriLL3or add, or whatever
21:37.39robotuschI can't find the setting in Grid to set the alpha for out of range peeps
21:37.46Fisker-n00b
21:37.52mitchnullkrill3: the api doesn't give you "30yd", rather "spell X is in range"
21:37.57KriLL3ah
21:38.05mitchnulland it lies
21:38.22KriLL3but if you got a spell that has like 5yd longer range than another one? :D
21:38.33mitchnullit works then
21:38.41mitchnullcheck out RangeDisplay :)
21:38.49mitchnull@project range-display
21:38.50Repomitchnull: http://www.wowace.com/projects/range-display/. RangeDisplay. Game: WoW. Leader: mitch0. Updated: 14 minutes ago
21:39.11KriLL3that name sounds familiar, doesn't it mitchnull?
21:39.16mitchnull:))
21:39.35Repo10fubar2broker: 03dhedbor * r72 FuBar2Broker.lua: Only 'tablet:Open' OnEnter, not from UpdateTooltip.
21:39.41Fasti"I downloaded this and after installation the game takes up 12gb of space."
21:39.47Fastithat's way too small
21:40.19mitchnullnah
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21:40.23KriLL3Fasti: the torrent from a certain bay?
21:40.27Fisker-11,8GB infact
21:40.29Fastiyes
21:40.33mitchnullif you don't keep all your patches lying around, it could be OK
21:40.40Fastiah yeah
21:40.42KriLL3I've heard others in here say it's 15GB~
21:40.43Fastior not
21:40.51Repo10fubar2broker: 03dhedbor * r73 FuBar2Broker.lua: Removed debug.
21:40.52Fastimy wotlk beta is 17GB
21:40.52mitchnullmy wow folder is around 10 GB
21:40.52Fisker-as mitchnull says
21:40.53Fisker-patches = fail
21:41.04Fastiand it doesn't have anything extra
21:41.08leech2khow would I check if game sound if on or off from my mod?
21:41.15Fastioh.. it has them
21:41.26Fastiin install folder, didn't notice
21:41.27mitchnullleech: it's probly some CVar
21:41.34Fastithat's only 2.5GB
21:42.01Fastisomeone scanning it too  :)
21:42.11KriLL3leech2k: "marco..."
21:42.17leech2k?
21:42.18KriLL3if it responds you got sound
21:42.44leech2klol
21:43.32Fasti"So I did a check with KL detector and didn't find anything. Ofcourse it's no full guarantee but I guess it's a clean torrent."
21:44.01SlaymanHjalte: how do i switch chars in BankItems? wanna watch another char
21:44.04KriLL3I've scanned it with 4 tools already, I'd say it's safe
21:44.18Fastihave you played on live servers with it?
21:44.29KriLL3though you can't be too careful on bay, way too many scriptkiddies and noobs
21:44.32KriLL3no but others here have
21:44.45Fastiok, guess I'll dl that
21:45.11KriLL3It's done in an hour here, started about 30 mins ago
21:45.18SlaymanHjalte: found it ^^
21:45.33Fisker-QQ KriLL3
21:45.34KriLL3I'll do the whole night opening to get CE thing
21:45.39KriLL3Fisker-: ?
21:46.49Fisker-[22:45:07] <KriLL3> It's done in an hour here, started about 30 mins ago
21:47.13KriLL3that's quite good speed on a public torrent, where everyone leeches to their hearts content
21:48.39Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r27 sdkp.lua:
21:48.40Reporemoving error printing, swatter is pretty nice, going to use it from now on.
21:48.50KriLL3most people can't download at 1MB/s =P
21:52.51Fisker-i'm so awesome
21:55.36Fisker-lol
21:55.42Fisker-RMT is getting taxed in china
21:56.29FroMasterNow the Curse Client can't login... "An unknown error occured contacting the server."
21:58.46KriLL3mitchnull: can you remove the "target" text from it?
21:59.00KriLL3and green bg when you don't have a target or they're not in rage etc
21:59.10KriLL3*range
22:00.15Repo10tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * 3.0.3.41-Beta-1-gfe63c4c / (6 files in 2 directories): [+7 commits] (3 truncated)
22:00.16Repofe63c4c: Merge commit '3.0.3.41-Beta'
22:00.16Repoaf68f99: Weekly build 3.0.3.41-Beta
22:00.20Repo63f0edc: Update changelog for 3.0.3.41-Beta
22:00.24Repo4b0c373: More ally coord updates
22:00.28Repo10tourguide: 03Tekkub 043.0.3.41-Beta * 67aa8f0 /: [new tag] Weekly build
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22:01.03KriLL3mitchnull: nvm, found it
22:03.04mitchnullkrill3: any feedback is much appreciated :)
22:03.15KriLL3the lock option wasn't that obvious at first
22:03.19KriLL3found it
22:04.11mitchnullthere should be a tooltip on hoover
22:04.26doom0ro.O recipe radar got updated
22:04.35KriLL3ah, yes
22:04.40KriLL3saw it on the fubar thingy
22:05.04KriLL3I got ahead of myself and tried to remove it by changing the bg options etc
22:05.19CamciIs there a way to get the line to start on the edge? I think it was like the before but after an update i cant get it back there :p Im using Prat: http://i33.tinypic.com/2gvk1tc.jpg
22:06.23leech2khmm, I cannot find a cvar that determines if sound if off or on
22:06.25doom0rlooks like everythings inset
22:06.26mitchnullkrill3: personally I hate the background settings, but some users requested them ;)
22:06.31KriLL3kk
22:07.34KriLL3does anyone know of an addon that shows you what angle you're flying at? the old fubar speed showed your speed over the ground, thus if you were level you were 418%, new one is your speed full stop, fly in any direction and it's 418%
22:08.16sbTekkub: no >70 quests in TG yet? :o
22:09.16Xinhuan@project aieeeeee
22:09.16RepoXinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/aieeeeee/. Aieeeeee!. Game: WoW. Leader: Antiarc. Updated: 6 hours ago
22:09.22Fastioh it's just 27.5% avg completion
22:09.58PneumatusCamci: check in timestamp options, theres an option to enable/disable 2 column chat
22:10.02FtH|DaemonaFasti the wotlk eu torrent?
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22:10.16Fastiye
22:10.17FtH|Daemonai got connection to at least 18 100% seeds
22:10.22Fastiye me too
22:10.27*** join/#wowace Antiarc1 (n=Antiarc@wsip-70-167-195-98.ph.ph.cox.net)
22:10.39Fastibut seeds usually doesn't really give much :P
22:10.43*** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ
22:10.58Fastithey just stay there and look pritty
22:10.58FtH|Daemonaand as long as your client grabs the rarest pieces first (which is the default) then the swarm should be fine, at least for you if you joined early enough
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22:11.12Fasti2.3%
22:11.20Fastigot both connections dling it
22:11.39Megalonleech2k: http://www.wowwiki.com/Console_variables#Sound
22:11.42Fastibut with only 27.8%avg... I wont be putting high speed upload :P
22:11.48Fastiif it was closer to 50%
22:12.01Fasticrappy dl/ul limit here
22:12.05Fasti12/7
22:12.14Fasti/week
22:12.32CamciPneumatus: thanks man :)
22:12.57leech2kMegalon: thanks
22:13.52Pneumatusanyone know if zygors guide updated to the new boats yet? :P
22:15.26Fasti1.2share! except that 66% of that is lan :P
22:15.46Fastimm lets try unlimited
22:16.06KriLL3why is (right)clicking not working on the cart2 map now again? :\
22:16.24KriLL3all stuff under the map work through it
22:16.51mitchnullcart2 is kinda dead, or so I've heard
22:16.52Arrowmasterbecause cart2 is broken
22:17.03KriLL3well it worked for a while
22:17.07KriLL3that part at least
22:17.19Arrowmasterwhich is why i say its broken
22:17.33KriLL3random bits stop working?
22:17.34Fisker-slaps Arrowmaster around a bit with a large trout
22:17.39Arrowmasterexactly
22:19.48Megalonlike it is with Fisker-'s common sense, broken :P
22:19.51Repo10panda: 03Tekkub 07master * 2.4.3.9-Beta-89-gc70fcec / (25 files in 2 directories): [new, +161 commits] (157 truncated)
22:19.52Repoc70fcec: Readme update
22:19.55Repo6f8b4a7: Add shift-click linking, craft all is now alt-click
22:19.59Repobc5f093: Add flasks and elixirs panels
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22:21.58Fastiohwell then again the speed is going to get nerfed fast with 26%avg
22:22.08Arrowmasterwow site down? cant get to account management
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22:28.05GnarfozXinhuan: to update BankItem's guild bank data, do you have to click all tabs once each time or is opening the gbank enough
22:28.08Gnarfoz?
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22:29.55Goncyn1Anyone around who could answer a PitBull configuration question?
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22:30.10Repo10nobility-console: 03ciscoh * r63 GuildManagementTools/GuildManagementTools.lua: re-sync
22:30.19pentium166just ask the question
22:30.37smoke_hey guys im trying to setup my pitbull right now and my dog tags im trying to figure out i have [MP:Hide(0):Short:Color('7f7fff')], how would i make it hide the MP if its at max mana?
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22:31.02smoke_i can do hide(1000) or whatever my max mana is but is there a variable i can put in there like MaxMP?
22:31.58charondoesn't it have a missing MP variable? so you can spell it as 'if missing mana != 0 then ...'
22:32.13GoncynI would like to have my PitBull XP and rep bars as very narrow vertical bars to the right of my player unit frame, but I can't get them small enough. The sizes are proportional, and "1" isn't small enough. All the other bars are horizontal so I can't change their relative width, only height. Any ideas?
22:32.15smoke_nm
22:32.20smoke_MaxMP worked, hmm that was strange wasnt earlier
22:32.39Gngsksmoke_, UnitManaMax('player')
22:33.12dieckhi! does anyone know how the curse client knows which addons are installed? here, it finds addons I don't have in my addon folder anymore (since 3.0.2). does it check for savedvars or something and ignores the directory?
22:34.52kenlyricdieck: did you have them in the folder before?
22:35.04kenlyricit doesn't remove addons that are no longer in the folder.
22:36.26dieckkenlyric: yes, they were there before 3.0.2
22:36.35dieckthen I've redone my interfacew
22:36.50dieckso, how can I "remove" old entries from the curse client addon list?
22:36.59kenlyricuninstall
22:37.08kenlyricit'll remove it from the list
22:37.20dieckah, ok
22:37.27diecknot very comfortable, though
22:37.54doom0rwtb hdd data grafting layer
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22:38.55dieckkenlyric: hm. it doesn't find new addons, too. I suppose that's also intended?
22:41.20kenlyricyou might have the option to turned off? Config -> Addon Settings - > Scan for addons
22:42.14kenlyricfyi, the curse client seems to be working now
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22:44.07Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r167 TradeskillIdData.lua:
22:44.07Repo- Remove the primal nether from "Enchant Boots - Surefooted" mats list
22:45.47Repo10cryolysis3: 03Belazor * r81 Cryolysis3.lua:
22:45.47RepoUn-local some functions as doing it accidentally broke caching.
22:46.55dieckkenlyric: ah, it scanned the folder as soon as I ended wow :)
22:47.06XinhuanGnarfoz: you have to open each tab one by one
22:47.18Xinhuanblizzard only sends data about the current tab
22:47.26Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r168 TradeskillInfoUI (3 files in 1 directory): - Do not use ["xxx"] = true in non-base locales
22:48.47Gnarfozdang
22:48.50GnarfozAloft doesn't error
22:48.56Gnarfozbut doesn't actually *do* anything either
22:49.08Gnarfoz:\
22:50.00Repo10routes: 03Xinhuan * r219 Locales/Locale-zhTW.lua: Update zhTW localization from NightOwl.
22:50.30Repo10dhud2: 03Arcanefoam * r82 .pkgmeta: DHUD2:
22:50.30Repo-Fixed AceDBOptions not getting zipped
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22:55.00doom0rGnarfoz: add checks til you break it more =D
22:55.27Gnarfozdoom0r: already found it, it works as far as my config is concerned :>
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22:55.39Gnarfozchecked for evl_nameplates on EJ and someone posted something to fix *that*
22:55.47Gnarfozand I applied the same fix to aloft :)
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23:00.04doom0rshakes his fist at people who don't offer embedded libs when it's required
23:00.24pentium166is there no wiki or anything for dogtag :(
23:00.53doom0rya, but /dogtag works at least
23:01.33pentium166is that a "yes, there is no wiki"?
23:02.02Repo10utopia: 03Zeksie * r32 Utopia.lua: Utopia:
23:02.03Repo- Fixed both Mangles and both Faerie Fires not showing up as available.
23:02.04Repo- Fixed bar colour not changing as more debuffs applied.
23:02.21doom0rya
23:02.22doom0r;x
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23:11.31dieckhas anyone else problems with Pitbull? I see blizzard unit frames and dark, half-transparent "frames" where pitbull should be
23:13.50Xinhuanhttp://s216.photobucket.com/albums/cc84/dpstheskullffs/hahahazi6.jpg
23:13.56Xinhuani found that funny heheh
23:14.04CIA-63tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r4b0c373 10/ (2 files): More ally coord updates - http://is.gd/6JK7
23:14.05CIA-63tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r63f0edc 10/ changelog.txt : Update changelog for 3.0.3.41-Beta - http://is.gd/6JK8
23:14.06CIA-63tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * raf68f99 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Weekly build 3.0.3.41-Beta - http://is.gd/6JK9
23:14.08CIA-63tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * rfe63c4c 10/ : Merge commit '3.0.3.41-Beta' - http://is.gd/6JKa
23:14.55doom0rnice
23:16.43sztanpetdieck an error msg would help
23:17.14diecksztanpet: no error message is shown :) I'll ask bugsack
23:17.16XinhuanWhoa do i see Panda on wowace, Tekkub
23:17.40sztanpetits probably the usual rock lib mismatch thing
23:17.44CIA-63nutcounter: 03Tekkub 07master * r92d6b2c 10/ (NutCounter.lua NutCounter.toc tekKonfigButton.lua): Add loot-all buttons to the mail frame - http://is.gd/6JKZ
23:18.26charonwould love to see CIA-63 announce the 161-commit push to wowace earlier
23:18.29diecksztanpet: maybe. I just updated "everything" via curse client
23:18.45sztanpetbut you deleted everything beforehand right?
23:18.57diecksztanpet: as usual :)
23:19.17diecksztanpet: first tried without, then switched to "fresh" install
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23:19.30doom0rhmmm
23:19.42doom0rin the middle of a changelog on an addon on wowi, cialis is blocked
23:19.45sztanpettry installing librock as standalone see if that fixes it or not, im just guessing here without errors
23:19.58doom0rbut it's in the middle of a word, not by itself as a proper name
23:20.05Fisker-y so srs Zeksie ?
23:20.07diecksztanpet: no buggrabber for the error. (just one for TooltipExchange and one for DrDamage)
23:20.29diecksztanpet: just librock-1.0 or more?
23:20.43dieckcomm, config, event, d so on?
23:20.45dieckdb
23:20.49sztanpetlibrock-1.0 is enough for me
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23:21.12dieckdone, restarting
23:21.21Xinhuan[07:21:04] [2. Trade] [Dascha]: Palin is how Obama spells Paladin
23:21.24Xinhuani rofled again
23:21.25linear`anyone know if UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED fires for partypet[1-4]
23:22.16Fisker-the end is near Xinhuan
23:22.47doom0rwow
23:22.52Fisker-http://eu.version.worldofwarcraft.com/update/PatchSequenceFile.txt <-y so confusing?
23:23.00doom0rwowi's word filter goes rampant
23:23.35Zeksielinear` should fire for all direct units, yes
23:23.45pentium166are you a bad enough dude to shut down wowi's word filter?
23:24.07doom0ri'm not logged in
23:24.23doom0ris there an option?
23:25.02pentium166i was thinking more along the lines of http://marathongame.wikia.com/wiki/Rampancy
23:26.17doom0ri was thinking more along http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rampant #2
23:26.31diecksztanpet: no effect. http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot110908002259ht6.jpg -- should be player, target, target's target
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23:27.19sztanpethmpf, no idea
23:27.26sztanpetworks for me
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23:29.49diecksztanpet: hm, looks like some interference. if I only load pitbull it's ok
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23:30.49Repo10panda: 03Tekkub 07master * 3.0.3.10-Beta-1-g941d886 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+4 commits]
23:30.49Repo941d886: Merge commit '3.0.3.10-Beta'
23:30.50Repo3d87b27: Weekly build 3.0.3.10-Beta
23:30.53Repo184c547: Update changelog for 3.0.3.10-Beta
23:30.57Repofcfa79d: Updating TOC to 30000
23:31.01Repo10panda: 03Tekkub 043.0.3.10-Beta * b229df1 /: [new tag] Weekly build
23:31.57Fastimmmmmeh
23:32.01Fastiless and less seeds :P
23:33.23diecksztanpet: re-enabled all addons (saved via acp before turning them off) -- and voila, pitbull working as intended. strange.
23:33.48sztanpethah
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23:40.57sbAntiarc!!!!!!!!!
23:41.00sbgo fix that addon :p
23:41.52sbaiee should detect levitate :o
23:42.23Xinhuaneasy to detect
23:42.41Xinhuanif UnitAura("player", GetSpellInfo(1234))
23:42.46Xinhuanwhere 1234 is levitate's spellID
23:42.50sbhmyup
23:42.57sbjumped down
23:43.04sblevitate on
23:43.15sb+ engage boss at the ground (dire maul)
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23:43.21sbso i was naked then :p
23:45.09sztanpetpwned
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