IRC log for #wowace on 20081031

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00:02.19AntiarcThose are git commit numbers
00:02.28Industrialletters are for pussies
00:02.31Industrialoh :p
00:02.34Arrowmasterits just the date
00:02.54Arrowmastersince people complained that the git describe style was confusing
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00:05.24Studdly1Ahh ic thanks.
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00:15.29Repo10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r34 ZOMGBuffs.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Allow Utopia to query talents from us.
00:17.40Repo10utopia: 03Zeksie * r13 Utopia.lua: Utopia:
00:17.41Repo- Fix for detecting 1 talent point talents.
00:17.42Repo- Updates debuff display after roster changes/talents read.
00:17.43Repo- More validating when reading talents from inspect.
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00:36.17Repo10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 07master * RC3-20-g0ee193d / (10 files in 3 directories): [+3 commits]
00:36.18Repo0ee193d: Hard embed LibDataBroker-1.1 and use it. Add LibDBIcon-1.0 external. Add minimap button option, default shown.
00:36.19Repo908f14e: Update deDE localization from Stanzilla.
00:36.23Repo9225089: Fix minor issue where the TPS numbers are 1 pixel higher than the rest of the text on the threat bars.
00:37.10Gnarfoz@project omen-threat-meter
00:37.10RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/omen-threat-meter/. Omen Threat Meter. Game: WoW. Leader: Xinhuan. Authors: Nevcairiel, Antiarc, anmoch. Updated: 2 hours ago
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00:37.58moeymoejoeis anyone on that just updated xperl?
00:38.00Stanzillanow Gnarfoz is going to laugh about my translation :(
00:38.08GnarfozHAHA
00:38.11Gnarfozyou're a mind reader
00:38.15Zeksiemoeymoejoe: what's up
00:38.19GnarfozI was gonna do exactly that, for real
00:38.19Stanzillagtfo my locale!
00:38.20Xinhuanlol
00:38.23Stanzillahaha
00:38.32Stanzillaimprove it plx
00:38.38moeymoejoer218 has a new obvious bug
00:38.56Zeksieworking fine here.. so not very obvious
00:39.00moeymoejoewhen hunter is group and pops his pet out a bunch of empty frames appear next to the first person in group
00:39.18GnarfozI'm gonna go to bed instead and obsess over it tomorrow evening ;p
00:39.29Stanzillayeah well, have fun with it :P
00:39.48Zeksiemoeymoejoe: find that hard to believe to be honest.
00:40.05moeymoejoethere is a row of 6 of them, no contents, just the borders
00:40.39Zeksiesomething like that's just not possible if you're talking about party pets
00:41.09GnarfozOmen ist ein leichtgewichtiges Bedrohungsmeter, :D
00:41.10Zeksieand nothing has been changed recently that has anything to do with the main frames
00:41.40Gnarfozalso, I've not seen an addon that "siezt" the user ;>
00:41.41Zeksiemoeymoejoe: screenshot or it didn't happen
00:41.56Gnarfoznot that I'd be a user of the locale anyway, enGB \o/
00:42.08Xinhuanstabs Gnarfoz with a pillow
00:42.16Gnarfozpillow. hmmm.
00:42.23Gnarfoz~sleep
00:42.23purl[sleep] overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine.
00:42.40Gnarfozpurl is truly enlightened.
00:43.00Xinhuanso you know where i test omen?
00:43.04StanzillaGnarfoz: same..
00:43.14Xinhuanin AV, at Galvanger and Drekthar (lolz)
00:43.46GnarfozXinhuan: you said that a while back, too, for another of your addons (or maybe it even was Omen) ;p
00:44.08Xinhuandunno heh
00:44.15StanzillaGnarfoz: that's nasty indeed, got a better translation for "lightweight"?
00:44.21Gnarfozare people just scared by your awesomeness or is it just quicker than getting someone to help
00:44.30GnarfozStanzilla: ressourcenschonend
00:44.39GnarfozStanzilla: actually, ressourcen schonend
00:44.40NeoTronwhat a lightweight word
00:45.01Stanzillahrm
00:45.05Gnarfozdahhagasoignaog
00:45.09GnarfozRessourcen schonend
00:45.12GnarfozWTF :p
00:45.32Gnarfozwhen I fail at my primary language, that's a certain indicator to go to bed :p
00:45.41Stanzillathat looks even worse tbh :P
00:45.45XinhuanGnarfoz, would you like to supply a patch? (or a downloadable file) ;p
00:46.23GnarfozStanzilla: just patronize the users and remove the word from that line entirely. ;> hrhr
00:46.37StanzillaGnarfoz: or just "einfaches"
00:46.48Xinhuando you know Omen uses 1.85 mb ram?
00:46.54Xinhuanas the ONLY addon installed
00:46.54Stanzilla(with libs)
00:47.00Xinhuanwith libs
00:47.01Xinhuanlolz
00:47.26Xinhuanand the omen core code and data structures only uses 90 kb, the omen options tables uses about 60 kb
00:47.46GnarfozStanzilla: something will fit, it's not like anyone will pay much attention to an ingame description of an addon - they got it somewhere, they already know :D
00:48.05Stanzillayeah
00:48.20Xinhuani'm shocked, it worked
00:48.42Xinhuanok i checked again, after a garbage collection run
00:48.47Xinhuanomen's only using 896 kb now ;p
00:48.56Xinhuandamn ace libraries!
00:49.30GnarfozXinhuan: I'll suggest stuff and ask Stanzilla what the fuck he was thinking from time to time while looking through it and then when we're done, I'll ticket/pm/pastey/whatever you a diff or something. fun times are to be had by all (who speak German :p)
00:49.50Xinhuanyes yes, and don't pastey me a SVN DIFF
00:49.56Xinhuancos i don't use svn
00:50.10Xinhuaneither give a git diff, or supply the entire file ;p
00:50.18StanzillaGnarfoz: :P
00:50.20Gnarfozwtf is a svn diff
00:50.23Gnarfozthere's no such thing
00:50.24Gnarfoz:p
00:51.12Xinhuani also just increased the size of omen's download by 20kb
00:51.18Gnarfozyou didn't!
00:51.22Xinhuanyes i did
00:51.26Gnarfozprepare the stake
00:51.27Paeneomg
00:51.31Stanzilladamn soundfiles
00:51.31Xinhuanaoogah.ogg - 14 kb
00:51.33Paenenow I need another hard drive
00:51.35Gnarfozlol
00:51.35Stanzillahaha
00:51.39Gnarfozaoogah is evil
00:51.47Xinhuani'm so damn surprised so many ppl noticed i removed it
00:51.54Xinhuanthat i guess i had to readd it lol
00:52.11Xinhuanok now for the hardest part
00:52.15Xinhuanrewriting the show/hide code
00:52.19Xinhuanand i can release v1.0
00:52.26Xinhuanlast 3 releases were just RCs hehe
00:52.29PaeneOmen3 1?
00:52.30Paenelol
00:52.40Xinhuansays "DOH!" and slaps himself on the forehead
00:52.44Xinhuanok 3.0 then
00:52.47StanzillaXinhuan: I will find 1px "bugs" in the final!
00:52.48Paene:-p
00:53.41Gnarfozmake sure to make the title bar hideable :p
00:53.49Stanzillait already is
00:54.11Xinhuanthat one took like 3 minutes to code
00:54.21Xinhuanbut 30 minutes to debug why the anchoring didn't resize by itself
00:54.36Xinhuani found out that i have to forcefully reanchor it just to make it resize
00:55.19Gnarfozsounds like something I read about, yeah
00:55.57Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r219 XPerl.lua: XPerl: Fix minimap button wierdness.
00:56.07Xinhuanyou'll also find that the 110%/130% range detection is really 5 yards this time, not 9 yards like in omen2 ;p
00:59.37Xinhuanhttp://kinkou.net/xinftp/Omen.jpg
00:59.57Stanzillahide your headpiece!
01:00.08Xinhuanscrew that, i already logged off beta
01:00.12Stanzilla^^
01:00.23XuerianXinhuan: You equip that mount there just so people know yu have it, don't you
01:00.35Xinhuanerr no actually
01:00.41XuerianUh-huh. :P
01:00.49Xinhuani actually placed it on my bars like 4 months ago
01:01.01NivFreakthe turtle mount?
01:01.09NeoTronXinhuan: do you have to do range detection at all, can't you just query and get the numbers to see if you're in range or not?
01:01.12Xinhuanuh that's just polymorph sheep
01:01.13NeoTronor maybe that's why it is like that
01:01.18Xinhuani mean turtle
01:01.23NivFreakpoly turtle
01:01.23XuerianNo. The black resonating crystal
01:01.23XinhuanNeoTron, no lol
01:01.28NivFreakOH
01:01.32NivFreakthat's what you're talking about
01:01.38NivFreakposition 1
01:01.39NivFreaknice
01:01.40NivFreaklol
01:01.40Xinhuanerr i can relog and mount up on it and take a new screenshot
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01:01.57XuerianYou'd like to, wouldn't you =O
01:02.01Xinhuanthen again, did you notice on button "0" what mount is there
01:02.01NivFreaklegendary like they should be
01:02.06NivFreaknothing like 1 per realm
01:02.15NeoTronXinhuan: no why?
01:02.17XuerianYes, I noticed that too >_>
01:02.24NivFreakwhat is that one?
01:02.29XuerianGladiator Netherdrake
01:02.32NivFreakhehe
01:02.41NivFreakwasted on a gnome
01:02.43NivFreak=x
01:02.50XuerianAll I want is the horseman's reigns >:(
01:02.58Xinhuanlol
01:03.02NivFreakI haven't even seen them drop
01:03.03Xinhuani summoned that one like 100+ times already
01:03.06Xinhuanno mount
01:03.11XuerianSeen it twice
01:03.12Xinhuanthen i ran baron a few times
01:03.17XuerianRolled second on it twice..
01:03.19Xinhuanon my 4th run
01:03.26Xinhuanthe GOD DAMN EPIC BLADE DROPPED
01:03.30Xinhuan>.<
01:03.33Xuerianhaha
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01:03.54XuerianI've seen the sword drop
01:04.05XuerianBut not the deathcharger
01:04.21Xinhuansword drop rate is still like 1 in 1000, deathcharger is only 1 in 100
01:04.30Xinhuanunless they increased both
01:04.45XuerianAnd you know DKs are going to be running it 5x/hour
01:05.06Xinhuana pally can run it in 9 min
01:05.09Xinhuana warlock in 14
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01:05.11Xinhuana mage in about 15
01:05.20Xinhuancorrectly specced of course
01:05.25NeoTrontook me a bit longer at 70
01:05.32NeoTronbut by gear is crap (on my pally)
01:05.33Xinhuani mean at 70
01:05.42NeoTronI got it
01:05.48NeoTronbut it was close to 20m for me I think
01:06.07Groktari think i finally found a food that i can't screw up
01:06.11NivFreakwe talking about a baron run?
01:06.17Groktar<- terrible at cooking
01:06.27Xinhuanafk 10 min
01:06.36XuerianYeah, ni
01:06.38NivFreakI wonder if I can solo baron as prot
01:06.38Xuerianv*
01:06.41NivFreak(warrior)
01:06.48Groktardifficult
01:06.50NivFreakmight have been hard pre-3.0
01:06.55NivFreaknot sure it would be know
01:06.55Groktarbecause of the disease
01:07.15Groktarit prevents you from regenning health, and food doesn't work
01:07.21NeoTronNivFreak: why not?
01:07.28Groktarand you can't bandage because of the dot from it
01:07.38NeoTronGroktar: what disease?
01:07.40NivFreakGroktar: that's on trash
01:07.49Megalonoh yea, strat ud part without cleanse disease is a pain in the ass :<
01:07.50NivFreakand you can avoid those mobs
01:08.01NivFreakand I could always box my priest for that I suppose
01:08.34Groktaryou can most definitely solo baron tho
01:08.40Groktarone thunderclap kills his skellies
01:08.41Groktar>.>
01:08.53NivFreakyou can always use holy water anyway
01:08.56NivFreakif not
01:09.10NivFreakI think I've killed him once post-60
01:09.22NivFreak3 man with 2 rogues and my warrior in shit gear at the time
01:09.38NivFreakfuck, I tanked all of BT in my SR neck last night
01:09.38NivFreakI fail
01:11.56vithoshaha
01:22.16doom0rrecipebook vs professionsbook ? anyone
01:26.03doom0rlooks like i need to get wowroster running again
01:27.38ckknighthttp://i33.tinypic.com/mcf11j.jpg
01:28.13Industrialho shi-
01:28.15Industrial^^
01:28.49Xinhuan[10/31 09:07:04] <Groktar> because of the disease
01:28.53Xinhuanyou can avoid those packs at the start of the instance
01:29.00Xinhuanwalk right past them
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01:40.05Repo10utopia: 03Zeksie * r14 Utopia.lua:
01:40.06RepoUtopia: Re-query missing talents for people who were out of range previously and are now in range for an inspect.
01:40.55Repo10fu-bar_dominos-fu: 03LaoTseu * r41 / (3 files in 1 directory): Fubar_DominosFu:
01:40.56Repo- Fix an issue with opening the configuration from the Dewdrop menu
01:40.57Repo- There is now a DominosFu label. Is can be easily be hidden by unselecting the Show text FuBar option.
01:42.40Repo10fu-bar_dominos-fu: 03LaoTseu 04v1.2-Beta * r42 : Fubar_DominosFu:
01:42.40Repo- v1.2 Beta
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01:52.41Repo10range-display: 03Sayclub * r190 localizations/localization-koKR.lua: Update locale koKR
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01:57.57NeffiAnyone know what type of value GetRuneType() returns?
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02:01.59sylvanaar_workuse /print
02:03.01NeffiI would think it would return nil unless I'm a DK
02:04.18sylvanaar_worki'll take a guess...a number
02:04.23sylvanaar_work1-4
02:06.33Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r649 / (6 files in 1 directory):
02:06.34Repo-- Fix mount button to properly remember ground and flying mounts across login
02:06.55WobWorkckknight: If you have some time, could you convert MrPlow to Hg?
02:07.04ckknightokay
02:07.31Xinhuanok does anyone here have show/hide issues with omen3?
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02:07.51Xinhuani still haven't figured out what's wrong
02:07.52NeffiNo
02:08.07NeffiMine's set to always show, and it does just that
02:08.10ckknightbah, you could've done this yourself with svnsync :-P
02:08.12ckknightoh well
02:08.13ckknightI can do it
02:08.29WobWorkckknight: really? I thought it needed to be done serverside?
02:08.38ckknightthat's what svnsync is for
02:09.21WobWorkhm, I wasn't sure how shifting of the repo type would affect the old repo
02:09.46Arrowmasterit doesnt at all
02:09.52Arrowmasterthe old one just goes away
02:10.19XinhuanArrowmaster, can u figure out what's wrong with Omen:UpdateVisible() ?
02:10.21ckknightWobWork: it would just leave it hanging
02:10.32ArrowmasterXinhuan: something is wrong with it?
02:10.39WobWorkah good =) I didn't want it to 'disappear' on me
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02:10.40Studdly1Question: If i have say 10 addons and 3 a disabled making it so 7 are enabled will it load any part or make loading slow even know it says its disabled ? or is it better if i just completely delete the 3 i would only use 1 out of 100 times. ?
02:10.40Xinhuanwell i'm getting lots of posts about it
02:10.48ckknightWobWork: almost done
02:10.52WobWorkckknight: <3
02:10.53Xinhuanon wowace forums, on curse, and on wowi
02:11.04Xinhuanthat is, it keeps appearing when it isn't supposed to
02:11.10Xinhuanand disappearing when it isn't supposed to
02:12.17ckknightWobWork: hg clone ssh://hg@hg.wowace.com/wow/mr-plow/mainline MrPlow
02:12.18ckknight;-)
02:12.35WobWorkfantastic =)
02:12.53ckknighttechnically you'll still be able to access the svn one
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02:13.02ckknightit's just not referenced anywhere
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02:15.39ArrowmasterXinhuan: can you remove the damn LFBP-3.0 hack since you have LibDBIcon-1.0 in it now
02:16.21Xinhuanwhat for? if ppl use fubar, i don't want to force them to use Broker2FuBar
02:16.38Arrowmasterits a total hack
02:16.42Arrowmasterhacks are bad
02:17.00Xinhuanconsidering the same one was in omen2 for half a year
02:17.26Arrowmastereverything else doesnt have fubar plugins anymore so people should just deal with it
02:17.37Arrowmasteryeah and that one was a total hack too
02:17.45Arrowmasteryou shouldnt overwrite lib functions
02:17.58Xinhuanconsidering its less than 20 lines of code, it isn't a big deal
02:18.00Arrowmasteri had to add a hack to LFBP-3.0 just to fix the mess caused by that
02:18.08Xinhuanwhat lib functions are overwritten?
02:18.12Arrowmasterand that hack is a lot more than 20 lines
02:18.21WobWorkArrowmaster> hacks are bad
02:18.23WobWorkno no
02:18.24ArrowmasterOpenMenu
02:18.29WobWork"That's a hack and that's -never- good"
02:18.44Xinhuanwhich lib uses OpenMenu ?
02:18.50ArrowmasterLFBP-3.0
02:18.58Xinhuanso how is that bad?
02:19.05Arrowmasterits a lib function
02:19.11Xinhuani'm merely overwriting omen's pointer to it
02:19.25Xinhuanit doesn't modify the lib
02:19.37Arrowmasterthat i had to specificly add a giant hack to LFBP-3.0 to fixed the shit caused by that when it was done in Omen2
02:19.39Arrowmasteryes it does
02:19.45Xinhuanno it doesn't
02:19.50Arrowmasteryes it does
02:19.52Zhinjioevenin'
02:19.54Studdly1lolz
02:19.56Arrowmasterits a little thing called lib upgrading
02:19.58Xinhuanno it doesn't
02:20.05Arrowmasterwhich that hack blew up
02:20.13sylvanaar_workyou guys are priceless
02:20.13Xinhuani see.
02:21.26Arrowmasteryour hack is completely wrong in that it overwrite OpenMenu instead of attempting to even do it a somewhat proper way
02:21.43Xinhuanerr Arrowmaster, i copied the exact way omen2 did it
02:21.47Arrowmasteryes
02:21.49Arrowmasterand like i said
02:21.56Arrowmasterthe one in Omen2 should have never been added like that
02:22.02StanzillaWobWork: are you playing wow again? :P
02:22.05Xinhuanso if it was there for half a year, and nobody pointed out it was wrong...
02:22.10Xinhuanhow was i to know it was wrong?
02:22.10Arrowmastersince it blewup LFBP-3.0 until i fixed it
02:22.12WobWorkStanzilla: a bit
02:22.17Stanzillacool :)
02:22.25WobWorkI'm logging in and having a fun time sometimes
02:22.35WobWorkThen it goes that I log in and idle and do nothing =P
02:22.40WobWorkIt's a bit bipolar atm
02:23.05Stanzillaheh
02:23.07PaeneI've kinda been doing the same thing
02:23.09Xinhuanso what's the "fix" Arrowmaster?
02:23.14sylvanaar_workwait 2 weeks
02:23.24Arrowmasterto read the docs and do it properly
02:23.31WobWorkhm, ckknight: what would be the address to access the old svn for branches that were on it?
02:23.46ckknightit should've converted the branches
02:23.52Stanzillaoldsvn.wowace.com
02:23.56ckknightoh, those
02:23.58ckknightyea
02:25.03XinhuanArrowmaster: sigh, i'll fix it
02:25.06Xinhuanmeanwhile look at the
02:25.11XinhuanVisibility function, ok?
02:25.59Arrowmasterwhen specificly are people saying its not working right?
02:26.57XinhuanArrowmaster: on page 3 of omen3 thread on wowace (i display 40 posts per page), on most current page on wowi, on first/second page of curse addon comments
02:27.13Xinhuanits all quite vague though
02:27.33Xinhuan"I can only get Omen3 to show using /omen toggle command.. Using a pet, joining a group/raid or enabling "When solo" doesn't help.. Any ideas?"
02:27.45Xinhuan"it is occuring randomly tho not when i am in an instance or anything..it is only set to come on in a dungeo etc and it is coming on when i am opening the quest log landing from flying a gryphon or even just standing there on my own"
02:28.14Xinhuan"Currently, when it is set to show during raids, it pops up all the time. I can click it away and it comes back a few seconds later. When I set it to not show during raids, it keeps vanishing, no matter how often I call it back"
02:28.30Xinhuan"I try to /omen toggle it off and it keep reappearing. I need to actually uncheck all the Show When... items to keep it off (only had Raid checked.) Edit: Now when I want it to appear it keeps disappearing!"
02:28.53Arrowmasteryour logic seems all backwards
02:29.08Studdly1Antiarc: http://www.wowace.com/projects/sexymap/tickets/3-calendar-button/
02:29.29XinhuanArrowmaster: i copied the entire function from omen2
02:29.40Xinhuanand nobody complained in omen2
02:29.49Arrowmasterand Omen2 was massively broken to the point none of us wanted to touch it much
02:30.10Arrowmasterif not t.Dungeon and inInstance and (instanceType == "party" or instanceType == "raid") then show = false end
02:30.18Arrowmasterthat seems massively backwards to me
02:30.39Xinhuani think the whole show/hide just needs to be rewritten completely
02:30.43Xinhuanwith the options rewritten as well
02:30.46Xinhuanany ideas?
02:31.30Xinhuansolo|group|raid are mutually exclusive, resting|dungeon|raid|pvp are also mutually exclusive
02:31.33Arrowmasterrewriting sounds good
02:31.38Xinhuan"have pet" isn't mutually exclusive
02:32.33Xinhuanso how should the logic work?
02:32.50Arrowmasterwell not broken would be good
02:33.03Arrowmasterif not t.Resting and IsResting() then show = false end
02:33.26Arrowmasterlike unless t.Resting is named wrong for what it really does, thats massively broken
02:33.45Xinhuant.resting is true, if the checkbox "show when resting" is on
02:33.51NeffiXinhuan: Based on your code, you're having it hide if any given condition is NOT true. Shouldn't it hide only if all conditions are not true?
02:33.53Xinhuani.e you're in a capital city
02:34.12Xinhuanthe first part starts off with show = nil
02:34.29Arrowmasterno thats the last part
02:34.47Xinhuanthen it forces it off, if the resting/pvp/instance part is true
02:34.59Xinhuanthen the last part, if it is still nil, assigns it a true or false
02:35.27Xinhuansee, right now
02:35.31Xinhuansolo|group|raid are mutually exclusive, resting|dungeon|raid|pvp are also mutually exclusive
02:35.39NeffiI realize. But it evaluates whether or not show==false. It'll hide if any given "hide" condition is met, rather than hiding if all given "hide" conditions are met. That could be your problem.
02:35.41Xinhuanso if a user says "i don't want it to show when i'm sololing"
02:35.48Xinhuanand a user says "i want it to show when in a dungeon"
02:35.58Xinhuanwhat if he's soloing and in a dungeon?
02:36.39Xinhuanwhich setting should then take precedence?
02:37.10NeffiThen how about you make the options entry for visibility a list, in which people can check/uncheck visibility for certain conditions, and change their order in the list. Higher up conditions get show/hide priority.
02:37.33NeffiDifferent people have different priorities
02:37.39Xinhuanwhat would the list look like?
02:37.51NeffiWould look annoying  =P
02:37.59Xinhuanthen its bad
02:38.16NeffiA simple faux scroll frame, in which each entry has a check button
02:38.27Xinhuanand how many entries would it have?
02:38.40NeffiHowever many the options has now, only ordered within the list
02:38.51Xinhuansolo|group|raid <-- mutually exclusive events
02:38.59NeffiProbably an overly complex solution, but gives the user the most power
02:39.07Xinhuanresting|dungeon|raid|pvp <-- also mutually exclusive
02:39.14Xinhuanso if you mutiply that, that's 12 possible combinations
02:39.29Xinhuannow add havePet|noPet
02:39.33Xinhuanthat's 24 combinations
02:39.49NeffiWell then, definitely an overly complex solution
02:40.01Xinhuanso i want ideas
02:40.06Xinhuanto make it simple and intuitive
02:40.24vithosmaybe if you had 3 states:  show, do nothing/ignore, hide
02:40.36Repo10mr-plow: 03wobin * r101 / (13 files in 2 directories): Fixed AceDebug reference
02:40.37Repoupdate to point to correct externals
02:40.37RepoPartial conversion to Ace3
02:40.45NeffiWhy even have do nothing/ignore?
02:40.56Xinhuanbecause some users do not want automatic show/hide
02:40.59Xinhuanthey want manual control
02:41.09Xinhuanagain, that doesn't solve the priority issue
02:41.13NeffiOh, I thought vithos meant something else
02:41.15NeffiNvm
02:41.25Xinhuanif a user specifies - hide when i'm soloing, show when in a dungeon
02:41.31Xinhuanwhat if user is soloing baron mount?
02:41.40NeffiHide when I'm soloing should take priority
02:41.55ArrowmasterXinhuan: im about to fucking slap you for making the same damn mistake as KTM
02:42.00NeffiLogically, they're soloing. There's nobody else they need to compare threat to.
02:42.14ArrowmasterXinhuan: line 1085 1086
02:42.17NeffiArrowmaster: What mistake is that?
02:42.20WobWorkArrowmaster: Is he checking if the player is a hunter? =)
02:42.28ArrowmasterWobWork: yes
02:42.39WobWorkXinhuan: Terrible =)
02:42.40Xinhuanwhat?
02:42.47ArrowmasterXinhuan: line 1085 1086
02:42.56Xinhuanyour line numbers and my line numbers are different
02:43.14Arrowmasterok function Omen:UpdatePartyGUIDs()
02:44.19Xinhuanand?
02:44.29Arrowmasterif UnitGUID("player") then
02:44.39Xinhuani had that error before
02:44.52Xinhuanthe UnitGUID of the player isn't always available on zoning
02:44.55Arrowmasterand the lines below it
02:45.18Xinhuancan you cut the wild goose chase and just say what's wrong?
02:45.26ArrowmasterguidNameLookup[UnitGUID("player")] = UnitName("player")
02:45.27Arrowmaster_, guidClassLookup[UnitGUID("player")] = UnitClass("player")
02:45.37NeffiYeah I don't see a problem
02:45.43Arrowmasteron every Omen:UpdatePartyGUIDs() call
02:45.45Xinhuanapart from calling the function multiple times, what's wrong with it?
02:46.01XinhuanOmen:UpdatePartyGUIDs() has a throtle
02:46.12Xinhuanat most once per 0.5 seconds
02:46.15Arrowmasteryou should never have to do that more than once
02:46.17Arrowmasterever
02:46.34Arrowmasterthe players guid cant change, the players class cant change, the players name cant change
02:46.52Xinhuanthat's it? a big cry over 3 extra function calls per function call?
02:47.01Xinhuanthat doesn't happen very often?
02:47.16Xinhuanomen3 uses less than half the CPU time of bigwigs, just so you know
02:47.49Xinhuanand that's because bigwigs parses the combat log
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02:48.44vithos_gah... stupid internet connection
02:49.09vithos_Xinhuan: is 'raid' group type, and 'dungeon' zone type?
02:49.20Arrowmasterno
02:49.21Xinhuanraid is 10-man or bigger
02:49.25Xinhuandungeon is 5-man
02:49.40Arrowmasterare you sure? wasnt it party at one time?
02:49.44Xinhuanits basically based on the return value of IsInInstance()
02:49.44vithos_ah ok, both zone type
02:50.05Xinhuani can probably optimize that function after i rewrite show/hide
02:50.34Xinhuanoptimization isn't quite a big concern as compared to getting core functionality to work
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02:51.59Xinhuanthere's quite many places where code is duplicated with regards to UnitGUID()
02:53.25Arrowmaster!api getnumrealpartymembers
02:53.25lua_botCould not find a match for 'getnumrealpartymembers'.
02:53.35Arrowmaster!api getrealnumpartymembers
02:53.36lua_botDocumentation for 'GetRealNumPartyMembers' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetRealNumPartyMembers
02:53.51Arrowmasteruse that func in the UpdateVisability
02:54.04Arrowmasterinstead of GetNumPartyMembers
02:54.08Arrowmastersame for raid
02:54.52Xinhuandoes it work for raid?
02:54.58Xinhuanit doesn't specify
02:55.05Arrowmaster!api getrealnumraidmembers
02:55.05lua_botDocumentation for 'GetRealNumRaidMembers' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetRealNumRaidMembers
02:55.35Xinhuan"Returns the number of members in the player's "real" non-battleground party."
02:56.22Arrowmasterthey are the exact same thing as the non "Real" functions
02:57.08Xinhuanhow will these 2 functions be helpful?
02:57.29Arrowmasterright now if you enable party or raid it will always show in battlegrounds
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02:58.25Xinhuanit doesn't atm, because the "show in BG" option overrides it
02:58.30Xinhuanin the first check
02:58.41Arrowmasterbecause that logic is completely flawed
02:58.58Studdly1Can someone just point me the right way to how i could border my minimap like the following image - http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f328/izzypizzy/WoWScrnShot_102408_001452.jpg
02:59.00Xinhuanindeed it is,
02:59.16Arrowmasterand thus ass backwards
02:59.16Studdly1i already have Kgpanels
02:59.28Xinhuanthat looks like a minimap with no borders
02:59.33Arrowmasterits not a 'check this to show it in these situations' but a 'if you dont check then they its going to always hide it in these situations'
02:59.47Xinhuanya, i need to separate them out
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02:59.50Arrowmasterwhich is why people are complaining
02:59.53Xinhuanbut need a good way
02:59.54Arrowmasteror just change the logic
03:00.05Xinhuanwhat i dont' get is why nobody complained in omen2
03:00.12Xinhuanits the exact same logic
03:00.16Studdly1it haves borders the person told me that take that pic. He used kgpanel i just cant get it to work
03:00.26Arrowmasterthey probably did
03:00.46AeyanStuddly1: kgpanels, make two panels with the dark blue with a higher strata than the lighter blue
03:01.00AeyanStuddly1: Or, make one panel with a square border colored blue
03:01.01Arrowmaster'if not t.Resting and IsResting() then show = false end' to 'if t.Resting and IsResting() then show = true end'
03:01.03Arrowmasterfixed
03:01.07Arrowmastersee its that simple
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03:01.20Studdly1Thanks Aeyan
03:01.27AeyanSure
03:01.33Studdly1i am looking at kgpanel and it seems i need artwork made already >?
03:01.37Xinhuani need some logic to determine priority
03:01.41Studdly1i am just a little confused on it thats all
03:01.47AeyanNo, you don't need the artwork thing
03:02.00Aeyankgpanels isn't very user friendly, hehe
03:02.01Studdly1ahh ok
03:02.04ArrowmasterXinhuan: if you fix the currently logic problem then priority doesnt matter
03:02.07Studdly1Ya
03:02.41Xinhuanit still does, right now the rest/pvp/dungeon has higher priority than solo/group/raid
03:02.52Arrowmasterno
03:03.11Arrowmasterstop thinking about it and apply the fix i said to all the logic, then relook at it
03:03.12Studdly1Active panel -> Create panel ?
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03:03.59AeyanYeah
03:04.42Studdly1Ahh i think i am geting it
03:04.43ArrowmasterXinhuan: oh and add an 'or false' at the end of that giant 'show = .....'
03:04.44Studdly1woot
03:04.48Studdly1thanks Aeyan
03:04.54Xinhuanit doesn't need the or false
03:05.01Xinhuanbecause if all of them are false, it is false
03:05.24Arrowmastertrue
03:05.41Xinhuanok if i remove the "not"s and change all the show=false to show=true
03:05.51Xinhuanthat fixes inverted logics, but doesn't fix priority issue
03:05.53quiescenso.o
03:06.00Arrowmasterthere is no priority issue
03:06.00Xinhuanthat means if i am soloing baron, it would show omen
03:06.11Xinhuanif "in dungeon" is on
03:06.20Arrowmasterthats not an issue to me
03:06.27Xinhuanits an issue for some
03:06.29Arrowmastersince 'in dungeon' is a show toggle
03:06.34Arrowmasterand 'solo' is a show toggle
03:06.40Arrowmasterthere are no hide toggle
03:06.55Arrowmasterif people bitch tell them to fucking think
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03:07.07Xinhuanwhat i mean is, some users want to hide it when soloing
03:07.17Xinhuanregardless of location
03:07.19Aeyan^ Yo.
03:07.21crookfingerjakelike me
03:07.37Xinhuanso the "show when" logic doesn't cater to those people
03:07.40Arrowmasterso move the checks around?
03:07.57Xinhuanbut some people want location on higher priority than solo/party/raid
03:08.00Arrowmasterand rename the solo to 'hide when solo' instead of 'show when solo'
03:08.02Xinhuansome ppl want it the other way around
03:08.30Xinhuanrenaming the logic doesn't change the conflicting logic issue
03:08.34Arrowmasterif everything is a show check then there is no issue and people can go fuck themselves for bitching about it
03:08.36AeyanI'm not sure there's a good way to cater to both
03:08.44Arrowmasterthere isnt
03:08.47Arrowmasterits impossible
03:09.02Xinhuani'm sure its possible, just need a ingenious solution
03:09.07vithos_sure there is, do it like firewall rules or something
03:09.10TorhalIt's not impossible. It's just insane. You'll have bigger if checks than you have all other code.
03:09.19Arrowmasterexactly
03:09.25Arrowmasterits not practical
03:09.38AeyanJust -assuming- which group is larger, I'd say give solo top priority and not worry about the other group
03:09.46Arrowmasterthe more practical solution is to tell them to go fuck themselves if they dont like it
03:10.07TorhalOr make a priority list the uers can move around themselves. Nobody to bitch at but themselves.
03:10.09Torhal:D
03:10.13vithos_i'm not sure my previous message went through before i disconnected, so i'll repeat it
03:10.16Torhalusers*
03:10.17AeyanSeems overly complicated, hehe
03:10.25Arrowmasterway too over complex
03:10.30vithos_something like:   When Solo?  Hide|Default|Show
03:10.41TorhalYah, but it seems like he wants to do it :)
03:11.07Arrowmasteractually where is the solo check?
03:11.39Xinhuanright now location check has higher priority than solo/group check
03:11.40vithos_then make the group of options (Solo, Party, Raid, Battleground) part of one option group in the priority list, and let the user move those option groups up or down
03:11.55Arrowmasterwont happen
03:11.57Arrowmastertoo complex
03:12.23Lukian<PROTECTED>
03:12.26Lukianissue solved :p
03:12.39TorhalUSers want AUTOMAGIC!
03:12.41Xinhuanthat reminds me, i need to add an option for omen NOT to toggle anything at all
03:12.42Industrialnp: angels on acid - leviathan
03:12.44Xinhuanlol
03:13.22sylvanaar_workXinhuan i was going to say, you need to check show for nil at each step
03:13.30ArrowmasterXinhuan: actually i can solve all of this
03:13.43Industrialguess ill spam it in ehre too; made a vid showing threat on my player/target frame; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmoTCULmj5w
03:13.44Xinhuanelaborate? heh
03:13.48Industrialgoogle mangled the vid tho :<
03:13.58ArrowmasterXinhuan: sec
03:14.42Xinhuan11am isn't too good a time for me to brainstorm a solution
03:14.52quiescenssure it is
03:15.15Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r10 / (2 files in 1 directory): cleanup and using lib-st in a better way now.
03:16.14sylvanaar_workif show~=nil and t.Resting and IsResting() then
03:16.32Xinhuansylvanaar, why is the nil check needed?
03:17.01Xinhuanall the possible options just turns it from nil to true
03:17.04quiescensI don't even know what is wrong with the current logic that you people are trying to change
03:17.19Xinhuanquiescens, i don't know what's wrong either
03:17.31Xinhuanbut there's at least 10 posts about it show/hiding at the wrong time
03:17.51ArrowmasterXinhuan: http://ace.pastey.net/100225
03:17.52Arrowmasterfixed
03:17.52quiescensoh I wouldn't know, I tend to just make things show at all times
03:17.55sylvanaar_workthe only way it can be set to true is if it is nil at the end of the function
03:18.43harlso, what map add-ons is everyone using who wouldn't feel comfortable enough continuing to use Cartographer2 after the patch?
03:18.58Arrowmasterharl: Mapster
03:19.07harli see
03:22.28XinhuanArrowmaster: with that logic, it is exactly the same as just chaining everything together in one big OR
03:22.40Arrowmasterwhich is exactly what the options say it id
03:22.43Arrowmasteris
03:22.56Arrowmasterthus NO PROBLEM
03:22.58Xinhuanyeah i want to rewrite that
03:23.02sylvanaar_workXinhuan did you convert omen to ace3
03:23.07AeyanMapster is good. Cartographer3 is available, but it's a different beast from Cartographer2.
03:23.12Xinhuansylvanaar_work, both omen2 and omen3 are ace3
03:23.30sylvanaar_workXinhuan oh, nm then
03:24.52ArrowmasterXinhuan: for now that is the fix, if you want to change the options then youll need to completely redo all the logic
03:25.10Arrowmasterthat fix most closely matchs the options
03:25.17Xinhuanya i know
03:25.30sylvanaar_workok, smarty pants
03:25.56ArrowmasterXinhuan: oh and you really should prefix your Aoogah sound in LSM with the addon name
03:26.13Xinhuansounds like a good idea
03:26.13quiescensaoogah!
03:26.15sylvanaar_workyou want to help me figure out why clicking on my popupmenu module's option node hangs the wow client
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03:28.03sylvanaar_workor for that matter - why hovering over child nodes of the toplevel nodes in the options menu tree makes the chatframe tabs pop up
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03:28.41sylvanaar_worki think those 2 things could be related
03:28.51quiescensa wizard did it
03:29.46sylvanaar_workneat
03:31.59bien|...does anybody know the update sequence of the wow armory? -.-
03:34.12Xinhuanlol Arrowmaster, there isn't anyway in LFBP-3.0 to do right-clicks
03:34.19Arrowmasteryes there is
03:34.22Xinhuanshow me
03:34.27Arrowmaster"None"
03:34.42Xinhuan"None" what?
03:34.57Arrowmasteror you could actually use the AceConfigDialog-3.0 option
03:35.08Arrowmasterlook at the comments?
03:35.12Xinhuanthere isn't any??
03:35.17Arrowmasteryes there is
03:35.18Xinhuanthe code doesn't even have the option
03:35.20Arrowmastertheres tons of comments
03:35.25Xinhuanthere isn't
03:35.28Xinhuanfind it for me
03:35.32Arrowmasterthen you are looking at the wrong code
03:35.42Xinhuani'm not looking at your libstub version
03:35.46Xinhuani'm looking at ck's version
03:35.51Arrowmaster.....
03:35.55ArrowmasterTHAT IS MY VERSION
03:36.05Xinhuanno?
03:36.08Arrowmasteryes
03:36.16Xinhuan"configdialog" can't even be found in the file
03:36.22Arrowmasterupdate?
03:37.07Arrowmasterand omen2 never used the rocked LFBP-3.0
03:37.18Arrowmasterand neither did Omen3
03:37.23Xinhuanyes that's because it hardembedded it
03:37.41Xinhuanyou've been pretty hostile today Arrowmaster
03:38.01Arrowmasteri get hostile when people question me
03:39.04sylvanaar_workquestions Arrowmaster
03:39.05Xinhuanand i question you because you don't make sense
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03:39.40Xinhuanwith the new LFBP-3.0, using "None" doesn't pass control to the addon code
03:40.06Xinhuanso it still can't capture a right click
03:40.07Arrowmasterlook at the comments for SetFuBarOption
03:40.09bluspacecowis that a bad thing /
03:40.41Xinhuani looked at it, you can set aceconfigdialog as a configtype, which works
03:40.52Xinhuanbut if i ever wanted to pass in a rightclick to the OnFuBarClick, i'm saying its impossible
03:41.06Arrowmasterthen explain how i fixed Broker2FuBar
03:41.29Xinhuanlook at line 1492
03:41.30Xinhuanif configType == "None" then
03:41.37Arrowmasterlook at the diff
03:41.39Xinhuanthe entire code section doesn't call OnFuBarClick
03:42.00Arrowmasterdo it, you know you want to
03:43.28Arrowmasterfind it yet?
03:44.01Xinhuanyep
03:44.25Xinhuanfucking 2263 line pos
03:44.32Xinhuan:<
03:44.45Arrowmasterwhich is why you just drop support for it
03:47.58Xinhuanmain reason for not using "AceConfigDialog-3.0" as the "configType" is because that opens the ace config window, rather than the blizzard one
03:48.34Arrowmasterwell omen2 didnt open to the bliz one
03:48.47Xinhuanyeah, it didn't, so standardizing it is good
03:49.15Arrowmasterit seemed like antiarc just added the fubar plugin as soon as i had a working LFBP-3.0 without rock and didnt even read the changes
03:49.22Antiarc^--
03:49.24Yssarilbtw does omen2 technically still work in 3.0?
03:49.25Xinhuanhow long ago was it that you found out about the
03:49.31Xinhuanlib upgrading thing
03:49.32ArrowmasterAntiarc: bastard
03:49.35Xinhuanwith OpenMenu
03:49.46Arrowmasteras soon as he did it basicly
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03:49.55Xinhuanand how did you "fix" it?
03:49.57digmousebut is there any meaning of using Omen2? o.O
03:50.25Yssarildigmouse: nope jsut curious :P
03:50.29Arrowmasterby hacking in a way to make it act more like a rock lib than a libstub lib
03:50.35digmouseOmen3 ftw
03:50.35Yssarils/jsut/just
03:51.04Arrowmasterby making a temp table of all the functions before overwriting them, and then when upgrading functions in embedded libs only overwriting them if they matched the previous functions
03:51.06digmouseYssaril's Summoning Purl is resisted
03:51.20Arrowmasterwhich is a total hack by libstub library comparisons
03:51.36Arrowmasterbut keeps a minor librock behavior around
03:51.53Xinhuanwhy didn't you just fix omen?
03:52.00PrimerAnyone know how this damn calendar interface works for inviting people?
03:52.03Arrowmasteri dont know
03:52.07Xinhuan=.=
03:52.11Xinhuan~lart Arrowmaster
03:52.11purldeclares Arrowmaster a moron
03:52.14PrimerI created an events, clicked mass invite, and everything's grayed out
03:52.36Primers/events/event/
03:52.41Arrowmasterwell it was a behavior change anyway so even if its a total hack its sorta better
03:52.57Primernow that the event is created, there's no more mass invite options
03:53.19ArrowmasterPrimer: are you GM?
03:53.19JaxonPrimer: now people accept/decline when they log in
03:53.27PrimerI'm not GM
03:53.36Primerbut apparently I can create events
03:53.38sztanphetPrimer you invited them to accept the event, not into the party
03:53.44Primererr
03:53.52PrimerI don't want to have to type every guild member's name
03:54.00XinhuanPrimer, you don't have a choice
03:54.05Xinhuanyou either mass invite by guild rank
03:54.09Xinhuanor type in one by one
03:54.12Arrowmasterunless your GM gives you premission to use the massinvite feature you have to
03:54.18Primergay
03:54.27bluspacecow:(
03:54.33bluspacecowcomputer's broken
03:54.42bluspacecowi think it may be the HD
03:54.45Xinhuanalso, the guildmaster only has one permission relating to the calendar
03:54.51Xinhuanwhich is "Create Guild Event"
03:55.05Arrowmasterwhich is basicly if you can massinvite or not
03:55.23Xinhuanno what i mean is, every rank only has that one permission
03:55.33Arrowmasterright
03:55.41Xinhuanso either you can create an event, or you can't
03:55.46Xinhuanbased on that permission
03:55.51Arrowmasterno i think anybody can create
03:56.10Xinhuannope, the permission for "create guild event" must be on for a person to create
03:56.18Arrowmasterhmm
03:56.21Xinhuani have it on for all ranks except initiate
03:57.02Xinhuanright now, its pretty gay, because, a person cannot see an event on the calendar, unless he's been invited to it
03:57.09quiescensthe inviting is pretty open ended, you can invite out of guild players to guild events if you want
03:57.13sztanphetthats the point yes
03:57.19Xinhuanthat is, an event must be invite-only, it isn't "opt-in"
03:57.41Xinhuanmeaning, you can't just create an event and then ppl sign up to it
03:57.59Xinhuanyou have to create an event, invite ppl to it, then those invited ppl can choose whether they want in or not
03:58.04Xinhuanor they won't even see the event
03:58.15sztanphetnot that big of a deal tho with mass invite
03:58.18Xinhuanand the calendar limits you to only invite up to a max of 100 people
03:58.32Xinhuanso if your guild has 150 people (including alts)
03:58.39Xinhuanyou can't even use the mass invite
03:58.47XuerianShould have "Open to (ranks/friends)" options
03:58.49Xinhuanit'll just error and say "you can't invite more than 100 people"
03:59.05Xinhuanso you end up just mass inviting "veteran" and above
03:59.12Xinhuanbecause you can't include "member"
03:59.26Xinhuanpretty gay right?
03:59.41Xinhuanalso you can invite people not in your guild
04:00.07Arrowmastertheres defaults to massinvite your arena teams
04:00.19Xinhuanyou can invite any random as it is
04:00.36Xinhuanas long as he's on your faction
04:01.04Xinhuanits kind of "meh" for interguild events
04:01.17Xinhuanfor eg, a guild wants to organize a joint raid on orgrimmar
04:01.22Xinhuanwith my guild
04:01.29Xinhuanbut you can't mass invite
04:02.07XuerianOpen to (Guild Name + Ranks|Friends|Arena teams) o.o
04:02.10Xinhuanalso, with the "accept/decline/out/standby" possible replies, you can't tell who signed up first/last
04:02.23Xinhuanso if you have 40 raid slots, you don't know who's the first 40 to signup!
04:03.00TorhalYssaril: TipTop scales the GameTooltip, BTW.
04:03.07Xinhuannor can you leave a comment "will be late by 30 min"
04:03.18YssarilTorhal: ???
04:03.28Xinhuanthe calander has half the guild putting their birthdays on it though lol
04:06.37Torhalyssaril: nvm, read your name wrong :)
04:06.51YssarilTorhal: hehe np
04:08.14TorhalI'm starting to wonder if Blizzard's marketing team trolls guild sites for ideas, then passes the bare-minimum information to developers.
04:10.53quiescenseverything needs to be simple
04:12.38quiescenseasier to deflect requests for features than turn away people looking for support
04:13.44Xinhuandoes it make sense to always show omen if you have a pet out? (except in a city/bg)
04:14.07XuerianDepends on the pet.
04:14.10JaxonI do it
04:14.17JaxonRather
04:14.23JaxonI manually toggle it depending on what I'm fighting
04:14.24XuerianBM hunter? yes. Demo warlock? Yes.
04:14.30XuerianOtherwise, not really..
04:14.50Repo10proximo: 03Grayhoof * r147 / (3 files in 1 directory):
04:14.51RepoProximo: Lots of changes to support new arena unit id's and GUID usage.
04:16.47TorhalXuerian: There were cases when, as a Destro Warlock, I'd send my blueberry in and watch Omen.
04:17.31XuerianTorhal: "Does it make sense to always show omen"
04:17.38Xuerian"there were cases when" does not really apply :)
04:17.58TorhalMeh. True. Call it convenience :P
04:18.10XuerianI'm a destro warlock and I do the same thing
04:18.14Xuerian;)
04:18.25TorhalI always turned the pet option on. Didn't have to remember to toggle Omen in those cases.
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04:20.45YssarilXinhuan: depends on the pet :)
04:20.50Xinhuanbtw Arrowmaster, did you follow the taint thread on ui forums?
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04:21.53Repo3d280fc: Add support for button dragging around multiple shapes; supports arbitrary shapes. Added an optional backdrop frame for the minimap which allows you to use a square tiled background and edgefile for your preset if you desire. Added large faded circle. Added 'Simple Square' preset.
04:21.55Repobaa8629: Add Large Circle (faded) shape
04:25.00molgaris it possible to remove the "realm name" in this line; fontstring:SetText(UnitName("TARGET")) ?
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04:26.22vithos_do pets in defensive mode have threat lists?
04:26.31Xinhuanreplace UnitName("TARGET") with strsplit("-", UnitName("TARGET"))
04:26.35vithos_or aggressive for that matter
04:26.42Xinhuanvithos_: yes they do
04:26.59molgarthx alot Xinhuan :)
04:27.11Xinhuanwell at least, the 3d-game warnings still show "Aggro gained" and "Aggro lost" for enemy pets
04:27.18Xinhuanwhich is kinda weird
04:27.39vithos_heh
04:27.44Xinhuani'll have to investigate that one
04:41.57vithos_ugh, now CC 2.0.0.14 is acting up on me too.  can't install SexyMap
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04:57.09Zyndromecapturing children
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05:00.49Antiarchttp://www.wowace.com/projects/sexymap/files/68-r20081031044832/ -> download -> 404
05:01.54Yssarilwhat would be the best damage meter atm?
05:02.13Lukianrecount or violation
05:03.42Yssarilwhich is better atm recount or recount2?
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05:15.11Antiarcvithos_: should be fixed now
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05:27.22RepoNote that this is very BETA. However, it makes major use of the new arena unit ID's, which makes all click functionality work regardless of being in combat.
05:29.45sztanphetthaznice
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05:52.34doom0rMUSH!
05:53.46Groktarwants
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06:01.37Xinhuanok i rewrote it so that "if use auto-show/hide then show Omen when solo|raid|party|pet, but override with hide if in pvp|resting|ooc"
06:01.41Xinhuandoes that make any sense to you?
06:02.47AntiarcYup
06:02.49Brunersyep
06:03.27Xinhuanthere isn't any situation that would not fit the above yeah?
06:05.40Xinhuanhmm
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06:07.27Xinhuanproblem i can see would be that if a user toggles omen's manually, that wouldn't stick, Antiarc
06:07.50AntiarcThat's generally been the problem I've had problems solving, too
06:07.50Xinhuana UNIT_PET would cause the show/hide to run for eg
06:08.08Xinhuandid you manage to solve it?
06:08.14AntiarcNot really, no
06:08.31AntiarcI think the best I did was to store a flag for the session with manual toggle
06:08.37AntiarcAnd then revert to auto behavior on next reloadui
06:08.59Xinhuanlike, if i just wanted to show omen when pulling galvanger and toggled it
06:09.26Xinhuanthe next person that join/leaves the BG would cause P_M_C to fire and auto hide it
06:11.00Xinhuanmaybe i need a "manual Show/Hide flag", which is reset to nil on the next P_E_W
06:12.14Brunersbuffet is like super cool
06:12.52Groktarsneaks up behind Bruners
06:12.59Bruners73KiB vs autobars 3MIB for my usage
06:14.47Groktarfills Bruners' addons with memory leaks
06:18.37Dashkalstealth-installs the rickroll addon on Bruners
06:21.27Groktargrovels before the Great Pumpkin
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06:51.59AntiarcUsers who liked SexyMap also liked these
06:52.02AntiarcKLHThreatMeter
06:52.20[Ammo]pwnd
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07:01.21JaxonDo Battleground marks still cap out at 100?
07:01.53Zyndromeyus
07:02.05Zyndromegot it capped on my alt and keep getting them mailed
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07:19.26Repo-- LibDataBroker-1.1 support
07:21.56Xinhuan"Note: If you manually toggle Omen to show or hide, it will remain shown or hidden irregardless of Auto-Show/Hide settings until you next zone or join/leave a party/raid."
07:21.58Xinhuanhow's that
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07:22.43AntiarcIs irregardless a word? >_>
07:22.48AntiarcYou'll get flack from english majors for it
07:22.50AntiarcGuarantee it :P
07:22.54Xinhuan~dict irregardless
07:22.56sztanpetwhy not make a new setting like always show and always hide
07:22.58AntiarcIt'll come up
07:23.03AntiarcBut people will bitch about it :P
07:23.07Xinhuan~dict regardless
07:23.12Xinhuansee the difference in meaning?
07:23.23AntiarcI do, but it's a classic Internet Argument Word
07:23.28Brunersirregardless 240 up, 58 down love ithate it
07:23.28Bruners
07:23.29BrunersA word used by uneducated people intending to sound intelligent. Often, the defendant will use this word in court in an attempt to impress the judge and jury. Educated people notice and those who use this word instantly identify themselves to educated people as being uneducated. Educated people rarely correct them because it helps educated people more easily identify them if they are well groomed.
07:23.46Xinhuanok so i should replace it with "regardless of" ?
07:23.59Xinhuan"Note: If you manually toggle Omen to show or hide, it will remain shown or hidden regardless of Auto Show/Hide settings until you next zone or join/leave a party/raid."
07:24.03Antiarcthat work
07:24.05Antiarcworks
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07:25.32Xinhuanwell what i did was i have a "manualToggle" flag
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07:25.33Xinhuanwhich is false
07:25.53Xinhuanits set to true on being toggled manually, via minimap buttons, /omen toggle or whatever
07:26.16Xinhuanand set back to false on P_E_W and when inRaid or inParty booleans change
07:27.02Antiarcthat sounds good
07:27.13Xinhuanhowever, it wouldn't work with macros that directly call /run Omen:Toggle()
07:27.21Xinhuanonly on macros that do /omen toggle
07:27.29Xinhuannot sure how to work around that
07:27.30AntiarcThat's problematic for my kgPanels
07:27.43AntiarcCan't put the logic into :Toggle?
07:27.58Xinhuan:Toggle() accepts 0 or 1 arguments
07:28.05Xinhuanif its 0 arguments, it toggles.
07:28.15Xinhuanif its 1 argument, it turns it on or off, as specified in the argument
07:28.38AntiarcRight; so a call to :Toggle() with an argument should set manualToggle
07:29.18Xinhuanthere's quite a number of places in omen's code that calls :Toggle() with an argument
07:29.23Xinhuansuch as UpdateVisible()
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07:29.45AntiarcMaybe use an internal _toggle?
07:30.04Xinhuanhm.
07:30.39Xinhuanwell if an external addon calls Omen:Toggle()
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07:30.47Xinhuanshould it stay forced shown/hidden?
07:30.55Xinhuanwhat do u actually do in kgpanels?
07:31.07AntiarcI'm presume so, because the addon is taking ownership of Omen's visibility when it calls that
07:31.21AntiarcOmen:Toggle(InCombatLockdown() and true or false)
07:31.34Xinhuanwell, i added a big checkbox
07:31.44Xinhuanthat says "Use Auto Show/Hide"
07:31.47Xinhuanso if that's off
07:31.48Antiarcalternate kludge: make the signature :Toggle([flag [, setManuallyToggled]])
07:31.53XinhuanOmen doesn't ever toggle itself
07:31.57AntiarcSo I could call :Toggle(flag, true)
07:32.15AntiarcThat's ugly though
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07:35.06Xinhuanhmm i should probably just add a :_Toggle()
07:36.13Arrowmaster_G.Omen_Toggle_WithoutSettingManualToggleFlag_InternalUseOnly()
07:36.53Arrowmasteroh sorry
07:37.06Arrowmastergetglobal("Omen_Toggle_WithoutSettingManualToggleFlag_InternalUseOnly")()
07:37.27Xinhuanstabs Arrowmaster with a pillow
07:37.41Arrowmaster_G.OMEN_NIL = nil
07:38.02Xinhuanwho remembers FAKE_NIL = {} in acecomm-2.0
07:38.11Arrowmasterlol
07:38.11doom0rlol @ You can not auction an item with used charges.
07:38.17doom0ritem = Two of Portals
07:38.42Arrowmasterwas it replaced later with a FAKE_NIL = newproxy()?
07:38.44NivFreakdamn
07:38.47NivFreakI knocked the wife up
07:38.53Antiarchahah
07:38.53NivFreakkid #2
07:38.54Xinhuandon't think so
07:38.55NivFreakthere goes raiding!
07:38.56AntiarcGrats dude
07:39.30NivFreakthanks
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07:48.39ToadkillerI am late to the debate but basically whenever the need to use irregardless arises, just use regardless
07:49.06Toadkillersame way you would use nuclear instead of nuculer
07:49.20Mikkor frogs instead of toads
07:49.39ToadkillerI kill both, dont really care for the distinction
07:50.26ToadkillerAlthough their spawn rate in BT is kinda high
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08:27.21asmodaiNivFreak: belated congratulations
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09:06.04NivFreakasmodai: or early as the case might be, but thanks ;)
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09:29.54Repo10bulk-mail2: 03StingerSoft * r292 / (2 files in 1 directory): BulkMail2: added ruRU localization
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09:30.50Repo- added ruRU localization
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09:40.29XuerianElkano: Yaaaaarrrr
09:41.05digmousexinhuan: ping
09:41.07ElkanoXuerian: Braaaaiiiinnnnssss?
09:41.15Elkanoah, you ment the pic ^^
09:41.17Xinhuanpong
09:41.18Xuerian:p
09:41.47digmousenah what about setting up the default bg of omen3? current one are ... nah.. you know
09:42.14digmouseand setting it up to none would cause a weird line in the middle of the window
09:43.16digmouseI like the old omen2 style better though :D
09:44.30Xinhuanhmm i'll look at it
09:44.53Xinhuannot quite sure what you mean by "default bg"
09:45.12Xinhuanthe weird line, is a column resizing handle
09:45.32Xinhuanwhich goes away when you Lock Omen
09:46.57NivFreakI think he means the blizzard parchament background?
09:47.00NivFreakor whatever
09:47.03NivFreakit's pretty horrid :)
09:49.22Xinhuannot really going to change the default
09:49.33Xinhuani'm quite sure ppl can change it
09:49.35Arrowmasteryou should
09:49.38Arrowmasterits horible
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09:51.10NivFreakXinhuan: so I figured out what bothered me about the TPS display in omen3
09:51.14NivFreakit's the target switching
09:51.33NivFreakhaving to wait 5 seconds after I switch targets to see a TPS number is really what was bothering me
09:51.38Xinhuanthat's cos i only keep data for one target
09:51.42NivFreakI know
09:51.46NivFreakjust feedback
09:52.21NivFreakI ran ZA with a tank that was doing 800TPS tonight
09:52.31NivFreakI don't even know how the fuck you do that post 3.0
09:52.34NivFreakauto-attack?
09:54.01LukianNivFreak, nah, it's not realising how to use your abilites post 3.0 XD
09:54.32Xinhuangg rolled 15 on raven lord mount
09:54.34Xinhuansigh
09:55.09NivFreakat least it dropped
09:55.10NivFreakhehe
09:55.19NivFreakI ran Sethekk again tonight, still no drop
09:55.19NivFreak:)
09:55.29NivFreakLukian: no seriously, 800TPS now is probably autoattack
09:55.37NivFreakor maybe devastate spam?
09:56.22quiescensdevastate spam with a skinning knife imo
09:57.34Kalroth800 tps with devastate spam is very low
09:57.46quiescenswith a skinning knife!
09:58.57Kalrothstill very low :P
09:58.57charonwith a blunt skinning knife?
09:58.57quiescensI admit, I don't have a lot of data on skinning knife devastate threat
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10:03.05LukianNivFreak, broken weapon? XD
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10:05.06Repo1a4bd3a: Add an internal flag so that if the user manually toggles Omen's visibility, it stays shown/hidden until he next zones, join/leave a party/raid, or change any Auto Show/Hide settings.
10:05.12Repo14def8a: Rewrite Auto Show/Hide options to be more intuitive. Add option not to use Auto Show/Hide.
10:13.54doom0rsighs
10:14.07doom0rwilling to buy multiple account saved variables and profile migration
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10:15.30Groktarchases it
10:17.43vithossexymap is sexy.
10:17.52Groktar^
10:18.14Antiarc:D
10:19.01Groktarasks sexymap if it would like to go upstairs
10:20.54Lukian@project sexymap
10:20.54RepoLukian: http://www.wowace.com/projects/sexymap/. SexyMap. Game: WoW. Leader: Antiarc. Updated: 3 hours ago. Tickets: 2/3
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10:22.38LukianGroktar, you might have to ask Antiarc's permission XD
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10:23.06AntiarcHave her home by 11. I have a shotgun and a shovel and I'm not afraid to use either.
10:23.11Groktarhehe
10:25.10Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz * r26 / (3 files in 1 directory): Added Conversion script
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10:26.59sb|workAntiarc: boobies finally?
10:27.12AntiarcNo. But you could add them.
10:27.48asmodaiohh, square too now? :|
10:28.23AntiarcSquare, rounded corners, heart, octagon, hexagon, snowflake, all sorts
10:28.27AntiarcMostly just because I can :V
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10:29.34asmodaiheart! <3
10:29.42WobWorkhehe
10:29.47WobWorkcharacter named MustangPally
10:29.54asmodaiThe Carebears called, they want their shapes back.
10:30.23AntiarcI expect most won't be used
10:30.57cladhairehrm how hard would it be to do the default texture, setvertex'd to black
10:31.00sb|worki'd use boobie shapes.. at least until my gf finds out ;)
10:31.02cladhaireI like the way that looks
10:31.26AntiarcWhich default texture?
10:31.28cladhairebut love the features of sexymap :P
10:31.29AntiarcThe border?
10:31.31cladhaireyeah
10:31.36sb|workAntiarc: giev snowflake and heart screenshots plx ;)
10:32.04TamarothAntiarc: does sexymap support achievment frame moving ? :)
10:32.07Antiarc<PROTECTED>
10:32.09AntiarcTamaroth: Yes
10:32.12Tamarothsweet
10:32.57Antiarccladhaire: You could add the standard border as a Sexymap border, set the vertex color to whatever you want, and set it to Blend rather than Add
10:33.02AntiarcAnd voila
10:39.08sb|work"# The country you selected is not valid for this contest." ./cry ;)
10:44.45Groktar/me grovels before the Great Pumpkin
10:57.56Fisker-enrages
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11:03.13Mytosmornin fellas
11:05.22Groktarpounces Mytos
11:07.46asmodairofl:
11:07.54asmodaifrom the ups site to track a package
11:07.56asmodaiYour package has experienced an exception.
11:08.09asmodaiI guess it raised or threw one?
11:08.10charonquick, catch it
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11:08.23Mytosyea, lately ups has been lacking
11:08.33asmodaidammit, that's my PIL book
11:09.00LexSfXhey, is anyone aware of the "(a nil value)" errors which Vista laptop users have been plagued by recently?
11:09.08asmodaiotherwise it would've been here today
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11:09.17Mytosfive times in the last month theyve flagged my house as a non address even though theyve sent thousands of packages to me over the years
11:09.20Repo10tinykos: 03profalbert 07master * v0.2-beta / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] add List-management
11:09.20Repo10tinykos: 03profalbert 04v0.2-beta * 128c0aa /: [new tag, +5 commits] tag as 0.2-beta
11:09.46LexSfXit seems to be tons of Vista users with these errors about attempting to index variables with nil values
11:10.10AntiarcThat's extraordinarily vague
11:10.11LexSfXdoes anyone know what's causing it?
11:10.26LexSfXwell, i can give examples
11:10.36AntiarcStack traces would be best
11:10.49AntiarcI really highly doubt that Vista or it being a laptop could somehow be responsible
11:11.19Mytosi dont doubt it could be vista
11:11.42Mytoswhat like 10-12 security patches in 2 weeks, could easily be bad code in a patch
11:11.54Brunersbecause vista does what?
11:12.12AntiarcIt sounds like he's talking about Lua errors in addons
11:12.25AntiarcIf not, then it could be vista.
11:12.31LexSfXa friend of mine, with only the very latest X-Perl release from wowinterface and a fresh WTF folder, gets this error repeatedly: "interface\addons\xperl.lua:2142: attempt to index upvalue 'conf' (a nil value)"
11:12.39AntiarcBut I don't think Vista could magically cause Lua table indexes to be nil that would normally not be nil.
11:12.42LexSfXi'm using the exact same version of X-Perl
11:12.53AntiarcLexSfX: Stack traces would be preferable
11:13.00AntiarcAs would the FrameXML.log file
11:13.13Brunersi guess it could be a faulty hard drive
11:13.16Mytosfine! ill eat my words antiarc! lol
11:13.17Brunersbut unlikely
11:13.48AntiarcFrameXML.log should tell us if something isn't loading
11:13.49LexSfXAntiarc: how do i get a stack trace of this easily?
11:14.03AntiarcA buggrabber addon, like Swatter or BugGrabber + SubSack
11:14.05AntiarcBugSack*
11:15.00Repo10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * 05dfe4d localization/enUS.lua: [+1 commit] Update localization
11:16.35Groktarfondles sexymap
11:16.39Mytossexymap?
11:16.46Antiarc@project sexymap
11:16.46RepoAntiarc: http://www.wowace.com/projects/sexymap/. SexyMap. Game: WoW. Leader: Antiarc. Updated: 94 seconds ago. Tickets: 2/3
11:17.13LexSfXok, how do i get a stack trace using BugGrabber/BugSack?
11:17.32AntiarcOnce the error occurs, you should be able to click the BugSack icon and copy the error stack trace out
11:18.27Antiarchttp://i35.tinypic.com/2ijogg6.jpg <-- sexymap
11:18.39Mytosanybody a recent transfer to azshara?
11:19.05Mytosthat is indeed sexy
11:19.59Mytossuggestions on a good name for a yellow slithid
11:20.07DezzimalMytos: Lawman
11:20.10AntiarcBananahammock
11:20.42Mytoslawman?
11:20.49DezzimalYes
11:20.52Dezzimalfamous Azsharan
11:20.58WobWorkAntiarc: Your wife chose your son's name, didn't she? =P
11:21.10Antiarc>_>
11:21.10DezzimalThat was the first server I ever played on, stayed there for around 2 years I'd say?
11:21.17Mytosthats harsh wob lol
11:21.32WobWorkBananahammock? =P
11:21.38AntiarcIt's yellow
11:21.40AntiarcLike a banana
11:21.40Mytosi just transfered from tichondrius, and im loving it
11:21.53AntiarcAnd Bananahammock is sufficiently somewhat-crude to be a hunter pet's name
11:22.06DezzimalAzshara is a shithole of a server
11:22.15AntiarcIt's not much of a zone, either
11:22.33Mytoshah, i love both zone and server
11:22.52Mytoshead up to the northern peninsula and just grind for ages
11:23.06Mytosi did 49-60 on all my characters there
11:23.19Mytosnobody to bother you, nobody to take your mobs, nice open spaces
11:23.41Mytoseven on highpop realms its a nice solitary spot
11:23.54asmodaiok, time to see what ails InstanceMaps
11:24.44WobWorkare there any prereqs for HH?
11:25.02Antiarcnope
11:26.09WobWorkgood good =)
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11:31.34AntiarcMan, blurred speed + broom mount is the best exploration combo ever
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11:32.25kagaroAntiarc:  blurred speed?
11:32.36AntiarcThe glyph. Gives you water walking while sprint is active
11:32.46AntiarcSprint + instamount = waterwalking mount
11:32.50kagarogotcha
11:33.06AntiarcI use it to sprint over rivers and such
11:33.18AntiarcNo more annoying dismount and swim
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11:36.06Mytosdoesnt the waterwalk fall off after the sprint goes away?
11:36.10asmodaishaman + glyph of water breathing/walking = no reagents needed \o/
11:36.26Mytosor atleast after the duration of sprit is up?
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11:37.19Antiarcyes, it falls off after sprint falls
11:37.26AntiarcBut it's perfect for short stretches of wat
11:37.27Antiarcwater
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11:38.21LukianThis site may harm your computer. war3.incgamers.com <- lol? :D
11:38.26AntiarcROFL
11:38.42DezzimalMytos: its an ok casual server I guess
11:38.47Dezzimalthen again what server isn't
11:39.03Lukianhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22sheep+tag%22+warcraft3&btnG=Search
11:39.16Dezzimalbut if you want to raid in any sort of capacity, azshara is a bad move
11:39.49Brunerswho is blocking that site really?
11:39.49Mytosdunno, i been here two days and got into fatal, full clearing t6 and doing progression in sunwell
11:40.27DezzimalFatal heh, my guild was ahead of theirs when we decided to disband due to lack of recruits
11:40.36DezzimalWe fed Fatal and Armistice with our smoldering remains
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11:41.20DezzimalMost of the decent people transferred off though
11:44.19Repo10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * 49df28f ZoneText.lua: [+1 commit] Fix zone frame sizing with nil db width
11:45.24Mytoswtf is that sheeptag video lol
11:45.30DezzimalPast raid guilds that burned out due to lack of a recruit pull on azshara:
11:45.39DezzimalBlue Garter, Crucial, ThoseGuys
11:46.05Dezzimalprobably a few more that I fail to remember but those were the big three that spelled the end of raiding on that server
11:47.24DezzimalNone of the guilds currently active on azshara are legitimately attuned to hyjal/bt
11:49.28Mytoslike that matters with wotlk in two weeks
11:49.58DezzimalAzshara is going to be a dynamite server to level on
11:50.00Dezzimalno doubt
11:50.29DezzimalI did the BC 60-70 rush there
11:50.49Dezzimallittle to no disruptions
11:50.54Mytosim just stoked about not having to vpn into my home computer 2 hours before i left work to login and jump into the que on tichondrius
11:51.56DezzimalYeah I imagine there'll be queue times on my server, shattered hand, when wotlk comes out
11:52.06Dezzimalold server, lots of people reactivating
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12:07.10WobWorkso what happened to the zombie event?
12:11.37Zyndromepost-poned until Left 4 Dead is released
12:11.43Zyndromepew pew
12:19.11BrunersAntiarc: what bars do you use?
12:21.49Kalrothhis own bars
12:21.59KalrothAntiarc is an addon purist, he only uses his own addons now!
12:22.53KalrothSoon he'll form AAA; Antiarcs Addon Association
12:23.51neeneeI use the Blizzard bars
12:23.52neenee=]
12:30.24Brunershmm, automatic install from the web is no longer working :S
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13:04.02Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r221 XPerl_Player/XPerl_Player.lua:
13:04.03RepoXPerl: Fixed 5-second thing on login, cos UnitMaxPower("player",0) == 0 at login... :|
13:05.02Funkeh`hello
13:06.56ZeksieHAI
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13:09.28Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r222 XPerl.lua:
13:09.29RepoXPerl: Fixed whacky threat dial movement on target portrait.
13:11.06kadrahilyo
13:11.10kadrahilneed halp
13:11.17kadrahilp0_4029:  p4_error: Could not gethostbyname for host serenity; may be invalid name
13:11.27kadrahilthe hostname of my laptop is just set to serenity
13:12.15Zeksiethink packager died..
13:13.02asmodaiobviously gethostbyname() cannot resolve 'serenity' to an IP address via hosts or DNS
13:17.41Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r223 / (3 files in 1 directory): XPerl: Version bump.
13:17.57Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie 043.0.1e * r224 : Tagging as 3.0.1e.
13:20.12Fisker-threatens Zeksie with slavery and death
13:20.15Fisker-or death and slavery
13:20.17Fisker-in that order
13:20.24Zeksieshush
13:20.37Fisker->:(
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13:23.06asmodaifunny, curse website offering a sweepstakes with Dell
13:23.11asmodaiit has a country drop down box
13:23.18asmodaiyet the rules state:
13:23.20asmodaiThe sweepstakes is open to legal residents of the 48 continental United States and the District of Columbia, who are eighteen (18) years or older at the time of entry
13:24.11pentium166Sweepstakes is a funny word.
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13:28.11kadrahilasmodai: i have an IP set up for the host in /etc/hosts :(
13:29.33asmodaimmm
13:29.47asmodaiso 'host' resolves it as it should?
13:29.51kadrahili tried setting it to both 127.0.0.1 and the ip address of the ethernet interface
13:29.59kadrahilno, it doesn't, that's when i realized it was still borked
13:30.09kadrahilHost serenity not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
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13:30.30asmodaiand nsswitch.conf is set to even use the files?
13:30.49kadrahil<PROTECTED>
13:31.10asmodai*thinks*
13:31.21kadrahili'm googling this as well ;)
13:31.22Grumhuts?
13:31.24Grum+
13:31.29Grumr ... gawd
13:31.30asmodaiCan a SecureHook still be set on WorldMapFrame
13:31.30Grumi need booze :(
13:31.40asmodaiGrum: Or a dictionary/spelling checker.
13:31.50Grumno, that would be logical
13:31.56asmodaiAh
13:32.13Grumpreparing another 6 chars to move servers
13:32.16Grummeh hurt :(
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13:32.49kadrahilthat's a big xfer fee grum
13:33.06quiescensfree transfers!
13:33.10kadrahiloh right
13:33.24Grumerm not free
13:33.28quiescens):
13:33.30Grumi wish :)
13:33.38kadrahilwhat server/faction?
13:33.48Grumdoomhammer->emeralddream
13:33.50Grumalliance
13:33.53kadrahilah
13:33.57kadrahilboth pvp?
13:34.02Grumpve
13:34.04Grumboth
13:34.05kadrahilcool
13:34.18Grumits char 6-11 of the move :(
13:34.23kadrahil;(
13:34.31kadrahili thought you could only have 10 characters on a server?
13:34.34kadrahilin your character list
13:34.42Grumgot 6 accounts
13:34.46kadrahiloh snap
13:34.53kadrahilheh
13:35.08Grummeh i need 1 more lvl70 to move
13:35.08quiescenshe has you there
13:35.13Grumi cant take enough money :(
13:35.19kadrahilyeah i have been had
13:35.53pentium166convert your money into expensive items?
13:36.13asmodaiInstanceMaps\\browse.lua:120: attempt to compare number with table   -- mmm
13:36.27Grum5.4k gold still need to be transferred that way pentium166
13:36.27kadrahili've only played on pvp servers since i started playing before bc, but i recently started leveling a second hunter on a pve server (cairne)
13:36.44Grumnot sure what to buy :)
13:36.44kadrahili must say it's kind of nice being able to quest without being camped
13:36.47Grumbut first the items
13:36.54kadrahilfor a change
13:36.56Grumkadrahil: the sole reason why i play on pve servers
13:37.05Grumi do not like to be bothered when i'm just doing shit by myself
13:37.09mitchnullasmodai: when does it happen? InstanceMaps seemed to work fine for me yesterday
13:37.13kadrahilyeah
13:37.22asmodaimitchnull: just pressing 'm' anywhere.
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13:37.38mitchnullasmodai: after applying the changes suggested on teh forumz
13:37.42asmodaioh?
13:37.43asmodaiwhere?
13:38.01mitchnullwell, I can actually commit it if nobody minds :)
13:38.09mitchnullit's a ripoff from carto, though :)
13:38.25asmodaihow about I give it a test spin too?
13:38.45quiescensbring it back in one piece
13:38.54mitchnullasmodai: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=12923&page=7&highlight=instancemaps
13:38.56asmodaiquiescens: Noes!
13:39.10asmodaicrash 'n burn baby!
13:39.25kadrahilwell i'm kind of at a standstill
13:39.40kadrahilsince i can't continue on this MPI project without resolving this gethostbyname error
13:39.57kadrahili'm going to try rebooting
13:40.02kadrahil>:(
13:42.57Brunerswould it be possible to make and addon/macro to change tracking depending on what mob you are attacking?
13:43.10asmodaimitchnull: so you telling me you fetched the cart3 file and adjusted those lines?
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13:45.00mitchnullasmodai: not sure it was cart3 :)
13:45.15mitchnullI think I checked out Cartographer, dunno what version that is
13:45.19mitchnullmaybe 2
13:45.38asmodaioh my, people fixed cart2
13:45.39mitchnullbut yes, I did what the post said, and it worked, and even the menu works...
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13:50.16asmodaiAntiarc: still awake by chance?
13:51.48asmodaiMm, what's this texture browsing addon?
13:55.56Repo10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r99 / (6 files in 1 directory):
13:55.56RepoSimpleMD: add the media widgets lib for more user-friendly config
13:57.26Grumasmodai: TexBrowser
13:57.28Grumjust waht it says :P
13:57.56asmodaishould've figured it was one of AntiArc's too
13:58.03asmodaiwas looking for texture, not tex ><
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13:59.08asmodaisteals ckknight's new macbook
13:59.29ckknighto noes
13:59.39ckknightmah macbuk
13:59.44Repo10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r100 :
13:59.44RepoSimpleMD: add it to svn:externals for those svn updater people
14:00.02Grum'add it'? O.o
14:00.44asmodaihttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/mpqviewer.aspx
14:00.50asmodaigot to love how it misses a download link at all
14:01.27Grumdoh?
14:01.34Grumits not an addon and has an executable
14:01.49asmodaiyeah, so I guess it's why it disabled the download links or so
14:02.03asmodaibut don't think curse has anything then an addon category for wow?
14:02.10asmodaianything else
14:03.09Brunershow can i change where Statblocks is placed in the strata world? it's not working with oPanel :S
14:03.14Grumwtb slave to premare my servertransfer ><
14:03.52Funkeh`Bruners, SBC lets you configure strata
14:05.49asmodaiStill gives me an error mitchnull
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14:06.14Funkeh`Bruners, you're probably best using the parenting option though
14:07.01Brunersaha, no global strata value
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14:09.32asmodaidamn, sexymap rocks
14:09.47asmodaieven has features for the 'movers'
14:10.07asmodaijust what I needed
14:13.48ckknighthow's everyone doing today?
14:14.20ZhinjioHeya ckk
14:14.24Zhinjionot bad.
14:14.38Josh_Borkeasmodai: what are 'movers'?
14:15.10ckknightthat's good, Zhinjio
14:15.11asmodaiQuestTimer
14:15.17Josh_Borkeah, ok
14:15.17asmodaiAchievement tracker
14:15.24asmodaithat sort of thing
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14:19.21balstorso level 71 no riding crop anyone know if there is a new version?
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14:25.31JY`balstor: they will change
14:25.35JY`not a trinket anymore
14:25.47JY`probably a spell
14:26.21balstorthe trinket says "fails above level 70"
14:27.20JY`the effect will be granted by another way
14:27.26JY`not yet implemented
14:28.27profalbertdoes Carrot on a stick also fail?
14:28.33balstoryou also notice all sharpening stones and oils will fail at level 80?
14:29.09balstoryes carrot on a stick says "fails above level 70"
14:29.26asmodaimitchnull: neither m nor my dropdown menu work with adjusting that mapdata.lua file (which would've been odd anyway in my eyes)
14:29.30asmodaiMithril Spurs?
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14:42.50balstorspurs seem to still work
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14:44.09asmodaimmm
14:44.15asmodaiyeah, sexymap is sexy
14:46.19smcnbalstor: re:oils, not even level 80. on beta i couldn't event put it on a lvl 72 staff from azjol'nerub, i'm actually surprised the information wasn't already more widespread. i guess people just assumed there would be higher level oils
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14:46.43kenlyrichigher level oils would be bad
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14:46.58kenlyricsince they get overwritten by all the other temporary weapon buffs
14:47.02Fastithere's no pw recovery on freenode?
14:47.05kenlyricoil users would get very very angry
14:47.07balstorsmcn but they will still work on my TF right when i'm 80"" (ergo item level not character level)
14:47.20smcnnot sure
14:47.35Fisker-hahaha
14:47.37Fisker-wtf is this shit
14:47.39smcni never tried to use it before i got that staff, guess i could re-copy and find out ;P
14:47.44Fisker-i got c'thun acid stuck on me
14:47.46Fisker-i can't get it off
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14:55.54vithosit'd be character level, not item level
14:56.26smcnor required level ;P
14:56.48smcni know it said "that item is too high level" when i tried to apply it
14:56.55vithosnot everything has a required level
14:57.17digmousewoot, a council 6% wipe
14:58.25mitchnulladmodai: could be some addon-interaction issue (with instancemaps) as it worked for me...
14:59.29vithossmcn: no, it says "Target is too high level"
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15:01.52Repoadded a new Hunter Spellgroup for Explosive/Arcane/Kill Shoot
15:02.25Repo10cooldownbuttons: 03Netrox 042.1.12 * r212 : Tagging as 2.1.12.
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15:20.50Repo10utopia: 03Zeksie * r15 / (2 files in 1 directory):
15:20.51RepoUtopia: More stability with talent queries, especially own talents on login.
15:21.37mitchnullhohum, seems like ArkInventory is a winner for me. any problems with it? (apart from the "FrameLevel Bug" mentioned in the faq)
15:22.38Repo10talented_data: 03jerry * r159 Talented_GatherData/scripts (3 files in 1 directory):
15:22.38RepoAdd initial pet talents extractor (from wowhead as Blizzard does not
15:22.39Repoprovide this data).
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15:24.55mitchnullis it possible to open just one category with arkinv? or it always opens the whole bag?
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15:32.01kenlyricyou want baggins for that kind of functionality, mitchnull
15:33.03ZhinjioI wish I could combine Ark's ease of setup with baggins' features.
15:33.07Zhinjiothat would be perfect.
15:33.34asmodaimitchnull: saw my comments earlier?
15:36.08mitchnullasmodai: I replied, too
15:36.29mitchnulladmodai: could be some addon-interaction issue (with instancemaps) as it worked for me...
15:37.03mitchnullkenlyric: is baggins "wotlk" ready?
15:39.10mitchnullhoho, there's also Luggage
15:39.23mitchnullit refers to ABP, so it might be what I need
15:40.47Zhinjiomitchnull: I'm using it now without issues
15:41.28ZhinjioMy only gripe with it is its setup is decidedly less intuitive than any of the others
15:41.50pastamancerbaggin's setup makes me want to fix grid's setup
15:41.50ZhinjioI'm hoping that Kaelten gets onebag3 to the point where we can do what we want with it
15:42.51Gnarfozwtb Combuctor with Bagnon's UI style. :>
15:42.57Gnarfozpastamancer: for reals?
15:43.24asmodaimitchnull: oh
15:43.25pastamancerGnarfoz: yeah, baggins config is painful...
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15:43.39Gnarfozdunno, I use Bagnon :>
15:43.50asmodaimitchnull: that explains, admodai, hence i didn't spot it :)
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15:43.54asmodaino highlighting
15:43.59Gnarfozdon't really like all those filter/ruleset based bag addons
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15:44.00asmodaimitchnull: you using mapster?
15:44.04asmodaiI think?
15:49.15Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r225 XPerl_Player/XPerl_Player.lua:
15:49.16RepoXPerl: More fixes to 5-second mana indicator. Go go consistancy in API events... :|
15:50.22digmouseCouncil FD!!!
15:50.47GrumFD? Feign Death? :D
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15:51.16Brunersany of you working on chatter?
15:51.26Grumwhats the problem?
15:51.44mitchnullasmodai: yep
15:51.57mitchnullasmodai: mapster+instancemaps
15:52.11mitchnull(+minimapster, but I don't think that plays here)
15:52.38Brunersnot a real problem, highlights withs item links shows the item:34826:0:0:0:0:0:0:0
15:52.48Grumhehe
15:52.56digmousenah you know defeat Council in 2.4 is not quite easy
15:53.42Grumi assume its BT boss 8-council? :)
15:56.33asmodaimitchnull: I use mapster too
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16:08.10mitchnulllaterz
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16:10.59pastamancer^^ libxspellid... you've got to be kidding me
16:11.12Grumjust delete it
16:11.30pastamancerit's just a bad idea
16:13.54pastamancerhrm, I tried to post a comment on the project page but it no workie
16:15.07genetik-i see three comments by you on it
16:15.16pastamanceroh wtf, I'm not seeing them
16:15.20genetik-heh
16:15.24genetik-awesome
16:15.31Xinhuanpastamancer, the comments take some time before they appear, don't ask me why ;p
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16:15.48ckknightpastamancer: blame Kaelten, then, he approved it
16:15.49ckknight:-P
16:15.50pastamancerXinhuan: that's bad
16:15.51Xinhuanif you posted multiple times, they will indeed get posted multiple times lol
16:16.01Xinhuanin the end i had to delete all my extra posts
16:16.07Xinhuanwhich luckily, i can do ;p
16:16.15pastamancerckknight: fix comments, and could you delete my extra posts on libxspellid because I still can't see them
16:16.35ckknighthrm, probably a caching bug
16:17.12Xinhuanrofl pastamancer
16:17.17ckknightthere you are
16:17.19Xinhuani deleted 2 of your 3 comments, and they still show up
16:17.29Xinhuaneven with a forced refresh
16:17.35pastamancernow I see one comment by me
16:17.36ckknightXinhuan: try now
16:17.37`Zypherhappy halloween :D
16:17.42ckknightquite, `Zypher
16:17.47Xinhuanyep there's only 1 now
16:17.49Xinhuanlol
16:17.53Xinhuancaching issue server side?
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16:18.51ckknightyea
16:18.58`Zypherand on this day, I am now 30 :P
16:19.01Xinhuanlol the library is not going to be very useful
16:19.09ckknightgrats, `Zypher
16:19.11ckknighthappy Birthday
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16:19.14Xinhuanpeople use spellIDs as the base key now, not the english string anymore
16:19.16pastamancerworse than not very useful
16:19.29ckknightXinhuan: it's annoying when Blizz changes the ids, though
16:19.34ckknightby removing spells mostly
16:19.47Xinhuanyeah, but that's not any different from Blizzard renaming spells, ckknight
16:19.54Studdly1Question: I have looked in all options but cant seem to get SLDT text to change colors. Am i bind or do i have to use code on the text ?
16:19.55Xinhuansuch as removing Blessing of Salvation
16:20.00Xinhuanand replacing it with Hand of Salvation
16:20.12ckknighttrue
16:20.18Xinhuanplus spell names aren't unique
16:21.26ShadowedIt's not like they change or remove spellIDs that often
16:21.56pastamancerand it's not like looking them up on wowhead is that hard
16:22.06pastamancerand then you can be sure you're getting the right spellid
16:22.09ShadowedIt is when you have to fill out an entire talent tree of them!
16:22.25Studdly1|cff7fff7f -Ace2-|r = Green. What = White ?
16:22.40XinhuanShadowed, i think wowhead's talent planner has links to every talent from their talent builder ;p
16:22.50Xinhuanevery rank even
16:22.52ShadowedNot when you want the specific spell it triggers
16:22.56IndustrialStuddly1: google.com/search?q=html+colors
16:23.29Shadoweder, thats triggered from the talentbeing used
16:23.50XinhuanShadowed, in optionhouse, can you possibly add in a list of Blizzard addons
16:23.57Shadowedwhat would that do
16:24.04Xinhuanhardcoded in that is
16:24.07Shadowedand as far as I know, you can't list Blizzard addons without hardcoding
16:24.17Shadowedoh you mean
16:24.19Xinhuanyeah, well, if an addon has a dependency on one of these
16:24.20ShadowedFor the performance?
16:24.22Xinhuanit shows up as "red"
16:24.25Shadowedmmm
16:24.34Xinhuanand says Missing Dependency, which is wrong
16:24.44Shadowedhard coded lists are evil
16:24.51Xinhuanplus it would be cool to load the blizzard addons from it as well
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16:25.28Xinhuanjust can't see their memory use though
16:25.31ShadowedI'm assuming, the only difference is instead of pulling from number, you have to just query it by name directly in GetAddOnInfo and such
16:25.37Xinhuanyup
16:26.09Xinhuan/print IsAddOnLoaded("Blizzard_CombatLog") -- prints 1, 1
16:26.10Xinhuanfor eg
16:27.25Xinhuanwas messing around with LoadWiths
16:27.32Xinhuanto load with a blizzard addon
16:27.34ShadowedBlizzard_AchievementUI, Blizzard_AuctionUI, Blizzard_BarbershopUI, Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap, Blizzard_BindingUI, Blizzard_Calendar, Blizzard_CombatLog, Blizzard_CraftUI, Blizzard_GlyphUI, Blizzard_GMSurveyUI, Blizzard_GuildBankUI, Blizzard_InspectUI, Blizzard_ItemSocketingUI, Blizzard_MacroUI, Blizzard_RaidUI, Blizzard_TalentUI, Blizzard_TimeManager, Blizzard_TokenUI, Blizzard_TradeSkillUI, Blizzard_TrainerUI
16:27.36Shadowedsee anything missing
16:27.38eblumeHi - what library and method should I use to register for a function to be called in N seconds?
16:27.44eblumeI remember AceEvent used to do that.
16:27.45Xinhuanit should just be the same list as the ones in your addons folder
16:28.00Xinhuansince blizz recreates the folders for all of them on every session
16:28.58pastamancereblume: just do it yourself with an OnUpdate function or use AceTimer-3.0
16:29.55eblumeI'm not familiar with that usage of OnUpdate - where can I find documentation?
16:30.12Xinhuani half wonder if creating your own frame with your own Onupdate (which is called from C code) is more efficient
16:30.21Xinhuanthan using acetimer, which goes thru a lot of pcalls()
16:30.27eblumeOh, I see...
16:30.29eblumeHmm.
16:30.40eblumeSo it calls 'very frequently' with a seconds argument
16:30.43pastamancerI think OnUpdate would be faster even if you had to create a new frame for it
16:30.48Xinhuaneblume, create the frame, then attach an OnUpdate script
16:30.49ShadowedFairly sure doing everything yourself is more efficient than libraries :p
16:30.57Xinhuanmyframe = CreateFrame("Frame")
16:31.00pastamanceryes, but you exit early if the elapsed time isn't long enough
16:31.00eblumeOk, thanks very much!
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16:31.01Shadowedjust not easier
16:31.41XinhuanmyframeSetScript("OnUpdate", function(self, elapsed) self.elapsed = self.elapsed + elapsed; if self.elapsed > 0.5 then DoStuff() self.elapsed = 0 end end)
16:31.50eblumeI'm using it to track input into an EditBox in real time using OnTextChanged, but I don't want it to process on EVERY change, just once every second if there is a change
16:31.58XinhuanOnUpdate function is called on every frame
16:32.05eblumeso I'll just have OnTextChanged "start tracking", and OnUpdate "if tracking"
16:32.06eblumethanks guys!
16:32.08Xinhuanwith "elapsed" being the time passed since the last time OnUpdate is called
16:32.33Xinhuanso here, you just store a variable that adds up all the "elapsed", if its passed, say 0.5 seconds, you DoStuff() and reset the timer to 0 if needed
16:32.42eblumeyup! Thanks!
16:32.46Xinhuanyou can also show()/hide() the frame
16:32.50pastamancereblume: I'd suggest either removing the OnUpdate script or hiding the frame when you don't need the OnUpdate running
16:32.54XinhuanOnUpdates are only called when a frame is Shown
16:32.59Xinhuanthey are inactive when hidden
16:33.38eblumeHmm... interesting, thanks!
16:33.44Xinhuanall OnUpdates also occur after all events have completed processing
16:34.04Xinhuanso 1. Process wow events 2. process Onupdates 3. redraw frame on screen, repeat
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16:34.19FtH|DaemonaFunkeh` you got a ticket for being a Badboy.
16:34.20Xinhuanso you can use (1) to store flags to trigger something to happen in (2)
16:34.30Xinhuanespecially for "spammy events"
16:34.44Xinhuanand (1) and (2) can control what gets drawn on screen for (3)
16:35.08Xinhuansuch as show/hiding stuff
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16:36.53odtsomeone know why cowtip is diplaying bad unit: "arenaX" for every line in arenas?
16:37.21Xinhuandunno
16:37.54Xinhuanshouldn't cowtip be using "mouseover" as a unitid ratherthan "arenaX" anyway?
16:38.15pastamancerit's probably getting events for the arenaX units and doesn't know what to do with them
16:38.19pastamancerrosterlib had a similar problem
16:38.29Xinhuanhmmmmm ok gotcha
16:38.30pastamancerthat is, not knowing that arenaX are valid unit ids
16:40.06Xinhuanhmm about 50 trick or treats left
16:40.06Shadowedsigh
16:40.11ShadowedWell, once my DNS stops being a bitch I can commit this
16:40.48Xinhuantime to test if player pets have threat tables if they are on passive mode ;)
16:40.54Xinhuanerr i mean defensive mode
16:41.01Xinhuanor aggressive
16:42.12TigerdyrXinhuan: while (mode != Standing still) { do_check_threat(); } ?
16:42.28Xinhuani mean, if i go to a battleground and start whacking enemy pets
16:42.39Xinhuanthe 3d-world SCT shows me "aggro gained" and stuff
16:42.55Xinhuanso it leads me to thinking there might be threat involved with player pets
16:43.07Xinhuanthat aren't specifically ordered to attack a player
16:43.21ShadowedIf there wasn't, they'd likely go back to doing something else after a taunt wears off
16:43.23Shadowedwhich isn't the case
16:43.47Xinhuanif so, i'll need to code a special option for it in pvp for omen, time to test :)
16:44.25Repo10socialist: 03eblume * r38 / (3 files in 1 directory): Socialist:
16:44.26Xinhuanwell maybe its not a "need", just something to satisfy my curiosity for now
16:44.26Repo- Skeleton of frame function
16:44.27Repo- Outstanding function definition
16:44.28Repo- OnUpdate functionality for searches
16:46.01Xinhuanwhat i'm interested in is whether the threat API will return threat values for enemy pets hehe
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16:51.33Xinhuanwow it does
16:51.51Xinhuannow i just need to figure out how it interacts with modes
16:53.18Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r226 XPerl_Player/XPerl_Player.lua: XPerl: 5-second rule.. again.. fixed. once more.
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17:08.01GnarfozNeoTron: why can't I scale a bin to 1.0? it always falls back to 1.01 :|
17:09.00NeoTronGnarfoz: good question, I didn't make the ace3 config widgets :P
17:09.09GnarfozNeoTron: other's addons do it fine.
17:09.25NeoTronnot my problem?
17:09.41Gnarfozwhat kind of logic leads to that deduction? :>
17:09.44NeoTronscale has a min resolution of 0.01
17:09.57NeoTronif that means 1.0 doesn't work but 1.01 does, that's an ace3 issue, not my issue
17:10.04Gnarfozit's set at 1 when you start, but neither moving nor editing the value lets me put it back to 1.0
17:10.06NeoTronso ask an Ace3 developer why
17:10.49AntiarcNeoTron: et the slider width to "full"
17:10.57AntiarcAllows that kind of fine-tweaing
17:11.00Antiarctweaking*
17:11.27NeoTronthe problem seems to be it doesn't stick to 1.0 even if set manually
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17:13.19Grumrounding problem?
17:14.01Gnarfozas I said, other ace3 addons do it fine
17:14.08Gnarfozmaybe this doesn't make sens: min = 0.01, max = 5, step = 0.05,
17:14.27GnarfozAntiarc: slider width is set to full
17:14.55Gnarfozor is another LDB displayer better suited to play fubar? SBC maybe? dunno.
17:16.06Gnarfozif step is set at 0.05
17:16.13Gnarfozhow can I even get to 1.01? :p
17:17.06Gnarfozeheheh it's clear to me now
17:17.17NeoTronah I misread
17:17.21Gnarfozwith a step of 0.05, if you touch either outer boundary
17:17.30Gnarfozyou'll be stuck with doing 0.05 steps from 0.01 on
17:17.51Gnarfozoh, if you touch the lower boundary, only. upper boundary is 5.0 so that's fine
17:18.22Gnarfozso I guess the minimum value for that slider should be a multiple of 'step' ;>
17:18.32AntiarcGnarfoz: Oh. Because the min width is 0.01, I suspect :V
17:18.37GnarfozAntiarc: exactly
17:18.38Repo10button-bin: 03dhedbor * r37 ButtonBin.lua: Fix scale stepping.
17:18.40AntiarcMake the min width 0.5
17:18.42AntiarcProblem solved
17:18.49Gnarfozas I said. as he probably just commited. ;)
17:19.38NeoTronGnarfoz: and really, 1.01 vs 1.0 hardly made a difference in the functionality, you have to admit
17:19.59GnarfozNeoTron: you know blizz's scaling is all kinds of crappy, so meh.^^
17:20.21Gnarfoznot to mention lack of integer values, anyway ;>
17:20.56Repo10grid2: 03jerry * r24 / (7 files in 5 directories): Fixes to Grid2RaidDebuffs
17:20.57RepoAdd aggro sound
17:20.58RepoFix embeds
17:20.59RepoFix Icon indicator.
17:21.35NeoTronGnarfoz: normal scale is much less exact than 1.01 ;-)
17:21.53Gnarfozwhat 'normal scale'? the UI scaling?
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17:22.35Gnarfozthat checkbox is off limits to anyone who doesn't want to die a slow, horrible death :p
17:23.23NeoTronthe effective scale of a window
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17:26.44Xinhuanok conclusion of my tests
17:27.09Xinhuana player pet has a threat table when in defensive or aggressive modes. but not in passive
17:27.29Xinhuanwhen a pet is instructed to "follow", that clears the threattable immediately
17:27.52Xinhuanbut the pet may reaggro based on what mode it was in (defensive and being attacked, etc)
17:28.05Xinhuanif the pet isn't instructed to attack a specific target, it attacks based on aggro
17:28.40Xinhuanif instructed to attack a specific target, it still maintains the threat table, but it sticks to the "tank" it is instructed to attack
17:28.57Xinhuanand blizzard threat API by definition gives that target 100%
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17:29.32Xinhuanwhat do you ppl think? :)
17:29.57nevcairielI dont think, in general
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17:30.05Megalonthinking is for the weak
17:30.15Megalonfor those who don't believe!
17:30.37NeoTroncan the pet automatically change targets if another targets generates more threat?
17:30.40Xinhuanyes
17:30.44NeoTroninteresting
17:30.50NeoTrontaunt? :P
17:30.56elite3vilThinking should be saved for people with more than 2 hours sleep, which means I don't fall into the "people who should be thinking" category.
17:30.57Xinhuantaunt works as expected
17:31.06Megalontaunt always worked :>
17:31.10Xinhuanand sets the threat equal to its previous target
17:31.17AntiarcTaunt works in PVP
17:31.19Megaloncharge, taunt, byebye icetrap!
17:31.20pentium166if it was defensive or aggressive it works
17:31.23AntiarcYup
17:31.29Xinhuanwe tried it in a 3-way test
17:31.37Xinhuanme, a warlock and a random mob in terokkar
17:31.40Xinhuanwe dueled
17:31.46Xinhuanset pet on aggressive or defensive
17:31.49Xinhuanlet the pet aggro the mob
17:31.58Xinhuanthe mob and the pet has aggro tables on each other
17:32.09Xinhuanwhen i attack the pet and/or the mob
17:32.15Xinhuani get added to their threat tables
17:32.15NeoTronso if you want control, use passive
17:32.25Xinhuanand they switch attacking in the triangle
17:32.29Xinhuanbased completely on aggro values
17:32.30pentium166as people have told hunters from day 1 :p
17:32.51NeoTronjust didn't figure pets ever had an actual threat table
17:32.51Xinhuanwhen u set the mode to passive, the pet does not attempt to maintain any threat table
17:33.04Xinhuanyou just get nils
17:33.29Xinhuanso if i get the warlock pet to attack the mob (as in ctrl+1)
17:33.38Xinhuanand then i attack the pet
17:33.39NeoTronso here's a question them - if you tell a pet to attack a player, can the pet be taunted? I assume no
17:33.46Xinhuanit can
17:33.59Xinhuanit gets taunted to whatever threat value
17:34.04Xinhuanthe player is on the pet
17:34.06NeoTronso it doesn stick to the mob it was ordered to attack as you said
17:34.22Xinhuanthat's how taunt works, it forces a target change
17:34.35Xinhuanu can taunt pets in arena
17:34.39pentium166taunt does not work if the pet is on passive, from my experiences
17:34.51Xinhuani mean when its not on passive
17:34.57pentium166okay
17:35.00Xinhuanit doesn't have any threat table when on passive
17:35.07Xinhuanwhen on agressive/defensive, taunt works perfectly
17:35.18Xinhuan1 damage = 1 threat
17:35.30Xinhuanbuffed AI on myself, 21 threat lol
17:35.37Xinhuanafter threat modifiers
17:36.10Xinhuanso... maybe i should add in a checkbox to not ignore player pets
17:36.21Xinhuanthey are normally ignored by default
17:37.40Xinhuanwhat i need to do now is to find
17:37.53Xinhuana shadowfiend and see what UnitPlayerControlled() returns on it
17:38.03Xinhuana shadowfiend is uncontrollable right?
17:38.05Xinhuanno pet bar?
17:39.13genetik-i'm pretty sure it brings up a pet bar
17:39.28nevcairielit has a pet bar now to control its target
17:39.56Xinhuanhmm
17:40.01Xinhuanwhat about treants?
17:40.06Xinhuansomething that doesn't have a pet bar
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17:40.37genetik-i wouldn't think treants have a pet bar since there's more than one of them
17:40.55genetik-i've never played a druid, though
17:41.01Xinhuannevcairiel should know
17:41.13nevcairieli've never played balance
17:41.20Xinhuanwhoa
17:41.25Xinhuanrarity druid!
17:41.42nevcairielwell i have, in 1.x sometime
17:41.44elite3vilI'm fairly certain that they have a pet bar for treants..
17:41.45nevcairielbut not since then
17:42.04ArrowmasterClasseven non combat minipets are UnitPlayerControlled() == 1
17:42.06elite3vilbut I've yet to spec balance on either of the druids I leveled to 70 (two of them. lol)
17:42.30ArrowmasterClassso yeah i think treants are
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17:45.47Xinhuani'm guessing the pets that don't have a petbar for are on defensive by default?
17:45.59Xinhuanor aggressive? hmm
17:46.21ArrowmasterClassagressive i think
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17:58.23PrimerI had never done the Vials of Eternity quest. My guild ran SSC last night, but I wasn't able to go the, and wiped 4 times then downed her. So later on I started a PUG. About 8 people didn't know the fight. We one-shot the bitch
17:58.35PrimerWe had 7 druids, and every one used their brez
17:59.47Primerin the end about 5-6 people were dead
17:59.48quiescensres spam
17:59.48Funkeh`FtH|Daemona, badboy doesn't touch /who at all
17:59.48PrimerFirst time I ever lead a big raid...it felt good
17:59.48FtH|Daemonainteresting ?
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18:00.37NeoTronPrimer: don't go there, you can never go back to following again!
18:00.59sacarascPrimer: grats
18:01.14sacarasci'm happy following
18:01.25sacarasceven if my guild ignores me half the time
18:01.28NeoTronback in the vanilla days, I was a content raid healer, not leading and often not really caring about the specifics of the trash mobs or bosses....
18:01.34NeoTronoh those days seems distant now
18:02.10PrimerI'm happy following too. It just felt good leading, and master looting, and telling people to STFU in vent
18:02.17sacarasci'm a melee dps... they just point me at what to hit and i hit it
18:02.35sacarascnice and simple
18:02.46NeoTronI'll be melee DPS in WotLK... and still lead
18:02.49NeoTronexcept 10-man raids
18:02.49Primerheh, I was the only holy priest in the raid
18:03.12Primerat one point I asked for an enervate and had 3 ticking :)
18:03.59sacarasci still need to do kael and vashj... and archi
18:04.03sacarascdone illidan though
18:04.04Xinhuanif (a) and (not b) then doC() elseif (not a) then doC() end
18:04.10Xinhuanmy brain needs to simplify that lol
18:04.24Primersacarasc: I'm only missing Archi, Illidan, and the last 4/6 in SWP
18:05.11balstor~seen tuller
18:05.15purltuller <n=muffins@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 18h 2m 20s ago, saying: 'sage is also an rss reader extension for firefox :P'.
18:05.16pastamancerXinhuan: if a then if b then
18:05.37Xinhuanhuh
18:06.04sacarascnot been to swp at all :(
18:06.34AntiarcI just need the heroics :V
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18:06.56pastamancerwell you've got 'a & !b', '!a', 'anything else', and nesting two ifs would get you that in a more readable form
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18:07.33pastamanceroh wait, the action is always the same?
18:07.37Xinhuanya
18:08.01Xinhuanbasically my brain's just not working to simplify (a & !b) & !a
18:08.16MegalonXinhuan: if not(a and b) then
18:08.17Megalonhf ;)
18:08.59Xinhuanaha
18:09.01Megalonbecause the only case you don't want to evaluate to true is if both a true
18:09.20pastamancerthat looks right
18:09.28Megalon!a & b, !a & !b, a & !b => doC()
18:09.34Megalona & b => donot ;)
18:09.36Xinhuanthat would be the same as "(not a) or (not b)" right?
18:09.42Megalonyea
18:09.44quiescens1+1=3
18:09.45Megalonyes
18:09.50nevcairielyou want xor?
18:10.21Megalonif not a or not b then
18:10.22pastamancerif I wasn't eating lunch, I'd do the truth tables
18:10.24Megalonwould be the same
18:10.32Megalonab0
18:10.32Megalon!ab1
18:10.32Megalona!b1
18:10.33Megalon!a!b1
18:10.37Megalonis the truth table he wants :P
18:10.41Xinhuanlol
18:11.39nevcairielyou confuse me
18:11.59nevcairielso you want true except when both are true?
18:12.12Xinhuanyeah
18:12.16Xinhuanunless i invert the variable name
18:12.17Xinhuanlol
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18:12.29nevcairielnah thats fine
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18:13.41quiescenswhy does this resemble the discussion from 16 hours ago
18:13.46quiescenso.o
18:14.57Xinhuanzzz its 2am already?
18:15.00Xinhuandidn't realize
18:15.11quiescensgo to sleep
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18:15.33nevcairieltbh its only 7pm
18:15.43AntiarcMorning, all
18:15.44Antiarc~uat
18:15.45purlwell, uat is Universal Antiarc Time. Created in #wowace, it is the measure of the One True Time. All other times are imposters and will be shot on sight, especially so-called "Universal" Fisker Time, which is just a sorry excuse for supposed "time" and will instead just be laughed at.
18:16.45EthanCentauraigood evening Antiarc :)
18:17.36pastamancerwhat about nature's simultaneous four day harominc time cube?!  surely any other time is educated stupid
18:17.57Gnarfozsigh
18:18.00Tristanian:s
18:18.17quiescenstime is an illusion
18:18.20Gnarfozthe quality of broker addons or integrated LDB feeds in comparison to the respective fubar plugins is quite lacking, tbh
18:18.42quiescenslunch time, doubly so
18:18.44pastamanceruse more violence!
18:19.02GnarfozI'd rather use more fubar, I guess ^^
18:23.20ArrowmasterClassoh god hahaha
18:23.21NeoTronGnarfoz: then use.... FuBar2Broker
18:23.25NeoTronor Broker2FuBar
18:23.30ArrowmasterClasslaughing so hard at one of the reports on wowace right now
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18:23.39ArrowmasterClasstoo bad you guys can see it
18:23.44GnarfozNeoTron: both are hackjobs of the worst kind :X
18:23.56Repo10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.1.2-13-g5a5e8cb /: [forced -1 +2] Use label instead of text in the LDB plugin
18:23.57NeoTronand... they work for me
18:24.08Gnarfozthat's an entirely different point
18:24.25Gnarfozit's just frustrating that it seems rather impossible to duplicate my fubar setup
18:24.31NeoTronit means, hack job or not, at least FuBar2Broker works fine
18:24.43ArrowmasterClassnevcairiel: want to look at the reports on wowace and close one of them, i would but it might look bad for me to do it
18:24.44NeoTronI duplicated my fubar setup.
18:24.49Gnarfozyeah, sure
18:24.53Tristanianldb has been around since when ? and fubar plugins since when ?
18:24.54NeoTrondidn't exactly end up very challenging to do
18:24.56Tristaniangive it time
18:25.14GnarfozTristanian: ehh well
18:25.18nevcairielArrowmasterClass: i thought i would leave it up there for shit etc :P
18:25.22Tristanianuntil 3.0 most people were not even aware of what LDB was
18:25.32Tristaniando you expect miracles overnight ? :p
18:25.37Gnarfozsigh
18:25.38ArrowmasterClassnevcairiel: lol
18:25.41FroMasterWhat's the *favored* itemdb to use with 3.0? I've been using Telo's LootLink but its not being updated...
18:25.42Gnarfozwhat is your point Tristanian
18:25.43nevcairieleveryone does, Tristanian
18:26.04quiescensthat's a troublesome argument though
18:26.07Tristanianmy point is, that you are comparing on a flawed basis
18:26.11Gnarfozbecause of the non-homogenized nature of LDB, everyone's doing stuff differently and I end up not finding stuff configurable for one feed that is configurable for another, and so on
18:26.24NeoTronhttp://eongames.com/tmp/ss.jpg like so
18:26.27ArrowmasterClassnevcairiel: dumbass shouldnt be commiting without looking at the damn changelog anyway, stupid report
18:26.31Tristanianblame the authors then
18:26.32Tristanian:p
18:26.36GnarfozTristanian: oh, so direct competitors should only be compared when both are equally old? :p
18:26.55TristanianI dont see it as a competition
18:26.56nevcairielits not really competition
18:26.59Tristanianmaybe thats the problem :p
18:27.17NeoTronone is old and tired, one is the future
18:27.22GnarfozAHAHAHA
18:27.23Gnarfozyeah right
18:27.34NeoTronFuBar will die out because addon authors will stop supporting it
18:27.34Tristanianthat's also a bit of a blanket statement :p
18:27.50Repo10bug-grabber: 03mikk * r133 BugGrabber.lua:
18:27.51RepoDisable an ill-designed safeguard that current suppresses ALL errors that have LibStub or CallBackHandler somewhere in the trace.
18:27.52Repo(It checks for if "BugGrabber" is mentioned in the path... but it embeds libstub & CBH!)
18:27.55Gnarfozuntil when ckk makes it LDB aware and it's just another displayer
18:27.59NeoTronit'll take time but things will migrate that way
18:28.06NeoTronkek
18:28.18Gnarfozyou should listen to yourself
18:28.24nevcairielGnarfoz: he already said if anyone wants to do it, they can do so, just that he wont :P
18:28.24NeoTronyou should listen to yourself
18:28.35ckknightit's not that I won't, I just have other priorities
18:28.45Gnarfozyou should listen to him, lol :p
18:28.59NeoTronreally the main "issue" today is the lack of good libstub alternatives to the tooltip and menu libraries used in fubar
18:29.19FroMasterWhat's the *favored* itemdb to use with 3.0? I've been using Telo's LootLink but its not being updated...
18:29.32Tristanianwe have winner, Neotron ;)
18:29.33GnarfozLDB was created out of pure idealism and as many other addons and libs that had that source, it fails to own up in practice. and because it's usable already, just call it 'bare bones' and cite 'user choice' and you're done :p
18:29.42JaxonFroMaster: Ludwig or GFW_Linkerator?
18:29.56nevcairielckknight: any reason the svn:eol-style pre-hook is not on CF/WoWAce anymore?
18:29.58FroMasterJaxon: Cool I'll take a look at those
18:29.58Gnarfoz< using ludwig, sadly, it can't link recipes :\
18:30.20ckknightnevcairiel: because I wasn't told to put it in
18:30.25nevcairielnow you are
18:30.27nevcairielby me!
18:30.28nevcairiel:)
18:30.28ckknightnevcairiel: if you want it, file a ticket on the repo-hooks project
18:30.34nevcairieli will, ok
18:30.46ckknight@project curseforge-repo-hooks
18:30.46Repockknight: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge-repo-hooks/. CurseForge Repository Hooks. Leader: ckknight. Updated: 24 days ago. Tickets: 1/3
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18:32.29MikkGnarfoz / Neotronl: It's entirely possible to use Tablet and DewDrop with LDB if you want. Nothing whatsoever is preventing you.
18:32.38MikkThen you have all the stuff you need, and it'll display in Any Displayer (tm).
18:32.43NeoTron...and the main issue with FuBar is the reliance on Ace2, which makes it really annoying to use for addons using Ace3 or other non-ace frameworks
18:32.48Tristanianthats quite accurate too
18:33.19Gnarfozso in practice, someone should just have finished LFBP-3.0-Mod :p
18:33.31ArrowmasterClassit is finished
18:33.31NeoTronMikk: except depending on both on Ace2 and Ace3
18:33.42GnarfozArrowmasterClass: you yourself said it wasn't
18:33.53ArrowmasterClassits sorta finished
18:33.56GnarfozArrowmasterClass: because it lacked ace3 option table support or some other crap
18:33.56NeoTronand of coruse FuBar's dependance on Rock
18:33.58MikkI know. It's less than ideal. But still better than being tied to fubar imnsho.
18:34.00ArrowmasterClassfinished as much as it ever will be
18:34.15MikkI wouldn't mind libstubbified versions of dewdrop & tablet.
18:34.16NeoTronwhich is yet another framework so now to have a Ace3 addon in FuBar you need Ace2, Ace3 and Rock
18:34.17GnarfozMikk: why even write 'not so humble' when you could just say IMO? wtf :p
18:34.25MikkBecause I'm not humble!
18:34.37nevcairiel@ticket curseforge-repo-hooks 4
18:34.37Reponevcairiel: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge-repo-hooks/tickets/4-eol-style-hooks-for-svn/. 4 - EOL Style hooks for SVN. Reported by: Nevcairiel. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 10 seconds ago. Status: New. Priority: Medium. Assignee: ckknight. Votes: 0. Comments: 0
18:34.39Tristanian!
18:34.42nevcairielArrowmasterClass: go vote ^
18:34.43NeoTronGnarfoz: and that is the problem with FuBar today
18:34.48Gnarfozthen use a word that's opposite to humble, blah :p
18:35.16MikkIMO -> IMHO -> IMNSHO -> we all love acronyms on teh interweb!
18:35.26Gnarfozand we all love idiocy :p
18:35.40ArrowmasterClassnevcairiel: done
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18:36.42GnarfozNeoTron: I'm using Ace3 and Ace2 and Rock addons anyway, so it's not like that problem doesn't have other sources, too.
18:36.58NeoTronspeaking of idiocy, an 8 year old boy died after test firing an Uzi at a weapon event in the US despite "careful instructions".
18:37.07Gnarfozhaha
18:37.16Gnarfozdarwin award for sure
18:37.19NeoTronGnarfoz: but I'm not using Rock and I don't want to force people to use Ace2 when they use my Ace3 addons
18:37.42Aiino, darwins are just for getting yourself killed
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18:37.52Aiinot being stupid enough to give a kid a gun and then the kid dying
18:37.54NeoTronGnarfoz: well for the parent(s) possibly but not really. the kid himself wasn't to blame
18:37.56GnarfozAii: uhm... and who says that's not the case?
18:38.19Xinhuanshould just write a brand new FuBar 4
18:38.20Gnarfozmeh, that wasn't clear from a two-word quote :p
18:38.39GnarfozXinhuan: well...
18:38.47ArrowmasterClassckknight: why are projects without any release or beta files appearing on curse?
18:38.50NeoTronXinhuan: which naturally should be an LDB displayer
18:38.57NeoTron... and nothing else :)
18:39.03ckknightArrowmasterClass: got an example for me?
18:39.13GnarfozNeoTron: no way :p
18:39.15ArrowmasterClassckknight: yeah, http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/test-svn-project.aspx
18:39.40ArrowmasterClassXinhuan, NeoTron: yeah i kinda wanted to do that, doubt i could ever finish it if i tried
18:40.11Gnarfozdespite claiming flexibility, I get the opposite. :\
18:40.11ckknightthat is odd, ArrowmasterClass, I'll look into it
18:40.12Pneumatushmm
18:40.20Pneumatuscan i be bothered to recode sUF into Ace3
18:41.19Pneumatusit doesnt use AceOO, so it might not be as horrific as i think its gonna be
18:41.30GnarfozBB seems to be better suited to replace my fubar at first glance, yet it doesn't offer per-block config - which is necessary because feeds just show totally random stuff :X maybe I should just get better feeds :P
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18:41.56Gnarfozbut then, SBC doesn't even have a working alpha slider
18:42.12Gnarfoz0 is invisible, 1 is still not fully opaque :O
18:42.38ArrowmasterClassckknight: and i swear projects are still getting made without being approved
18:43.00ckknightprojects, not files?
18:44.08ArrowmasterClassprojects yes
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18:44.52ArrowmasterClassthat or the activity log is broken
18:45.31Gnarfozalso funny that Broker_Mail would show MORE text when I have no mails than when I actually have mails.
18:46.25Gnarfozalso it always shows "Unread mail from:" in it's tooltip even if I don't have mail
18:46.30pastamancerthat just doesn't seem right
18:47.42XinhuanArrowmaster, i approved a few earlier
18:47.52Xinhuanit should show up if you search my name in the activity log
18:48.30Studdly1Why cant i delete a project ?
18:48.40nevcairielsometimes i think i'm the only one that deletes projects or sends them back with "changes required" :P
18:48.54Tristanianabuse of powah !
18:49.02Xinhuanthere was a UI Pack one heh
18:49.03Studdly1http://www.wowace.com/projects/fu-bar_tracker-fu/ i do not want this one. and it seems not to be use alot at all.
18:49.06Xinhuana few days ago
18:49.12Studdly1like 1k total downloads
18:49.28Xinhuanso you want that deleted Studdly1?
18:49.32Gnarfozwhy?
18:49.33Studdly1Yes
18:49.35Gnarfozit works fine
18:49.37HirsuteHrmm.  Out of interest, when WoWMatrix hits a site to pull an addon, what is it's useragent string?
18:49.39Studdly1Well
18:49.41Xinhuanyou sure?
18:49.43HirsuteAnyone?
18:49.47Gnarfozyes? I've been using that
18:49.48Gnarfozlol
18:49.51Studdly1O.o
18:49.52Studdly1well
18:49.54ArrowmasterClassHirsute: it fakes an IE one i think
18:49.54Studdly1take it over
18:49.54KriLL3Hirsute: it's faked
18:49.55pastamancerHirsute: it's random every time wowmatrix starts
18:49.56Studdly1lolz
18:50.00nevcairielHirsute: firefox 3.0
18:50.03Gnarfozit's the only working tracking method display+change fubar plugin
18:50.05XinhuanHirsute: i heard its random
18:50.07pastamancerHirsute: they actually have a list of user agents that it picks from
18:50.10Studdly1iv had it on abandoned  for awhile.
18:50.12HirsuteAh, fun.  
18:50.19pastamancerHirsute: and they're all 'legit'
18:50.22Xinhuanwell we can delete it
18:50.24HirsuteYeah.
18:50.27Xinhuanbut do you really want to? ;p
18:50.28nevcairielOh well, i just wiresharked it once, and saw a pretty default firefox agent
18:50.28ArrowmasterClassyes, its the defination of shaddy
18:50.40HirsuteJust wondering what sorts of measures one would have to take to completely block WoWMatrix.
18:50.48ArrowmasterClasscomplex ones
18:50.50Studdly1I am removing my self from all Fubar addons. so Gnarfoz if u want it take it.
18:50.52GnarfozStuddly1: so you're nemes?
18:51.04KriLL3does wowace require login now?
18:51.07XinhuanHirsute, if wowace told people how they implement such measures, that would defeat the purpose of implementing them ;p
18:51.13ArrowmasterClassKriLL3: for weeks
18:51.16KriLL3or does wowmatrix claim to be a registered user?
18:51.21Xinhuansince wowmatrix would just workaround it if they know
18:51.22HirsuteXinhuan: I'm not so much asking you to tell me.
18:51.31HirsuteI'm just wondering out loud, really.
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18:51.34ArrowmasterClassKriLL3: it doesnt download from wowace
18:51.36pastamancerwowace requires a login to get alpha files
18:51.44ArrowmasterClassto get any files
18:51.44KriLL3ArrowmasterClass: curse then
18:51.48Studdly1Gnarfoz: take it or its getting deleted :D.
18:51.49ArrowmasterClassotherwise you get sent to curse
18:51.49HirsuteIt doesn't actually directly affect me anyway, as I don't host any addons myself.
18:51.50GnarfozXinhuan: move that over to me then, if the other choice is to delete it :p
18:51.58HirsuteI just like thinking about sticking it to WoWMatrix.
18:52.02Xinhuanyou should ask Studdly1 about that Gnarfoz
18:52.17Xinhuanhe can add you as an contributor, then reassign project ownership to you
18:52.20ArrowmasterClassi think wowmatrix is even doing page scraping now client side for curse right?
18:52.24GnarfozXinhuan: evil between lines reader! he just told me 3 times to take it over :p
18:52.31Studdly1lolz
18:52.40pastamancerArrowmasterClass: correct
18:52.44Studdly1i can do what Xinhaun said.
18:52.45GnarfozStuddly1: well, do what xinhuan said, then
18:52.53ArrowmasterClassmeaning generating unique download urls per visit wouldnt even work
18:53.08ArrowmasterClassbut wowmatrix uses curl right?
18:53.15GnarfozStuddly1: I'm still "8tImER" on wowace because Kaelten is the only one (not) who can do name changes :p
18:53.17pastamancerlibcurl
18:53.17HirsuteYeah.  Someone needs to kick the wowmatrix creators right in the nuts.
18:53.31XinhuanGnarfoz, i think Belazor can too :)
18:53.41Xinhuanbut i'm not certain
18:53.44Belazoronly on forums
18:53.47Xinhuanah
18:53.48GnarfozXinhuan: well, there's a rename request in the (supposedly there is one?) queue
18:53.50ArrowmasterClassif you can figure out how to identify libcurl via something like http header order then it might be possible to block it
18:53.55Xinhuani can't see that one Gnarfoz
18:54.10GnarfozXinhuan: yeah, why would you be able to if you can't rename, heh ;)
18:54.24Studdly1All u :)
18:54.32Xinhuanwell i could login the forum's modcp, but i can't modify most things in it
18:54.45GnarfozStuddly1: kk, better than it being totally gone :P
18:54.52Studdly1YA
18:54.53Xinhuancan ban and unban and stuff, but nto actually modify any user's settings, not even my own surprisingly
18:55.07ArrowmasterClasspff i dont even have forum mod rights
18:55.09Studdly1it was just hard for me to test/fix things if i do not use Fubar
18:55.12BelazorXinhuan: Forum username != WoWAce/CF/Curse username
18:55.20ArrowmasterClassBelazor: it should
18:55.32ArrowmasterClassBelazor: sync them
18:55.34XinhuanBelazor, i worked around it by requesting a new password using the forum's retrieve pw ;p
18:55.54BelazorI don't want to touch the curse auth plugin again :(
18:56.20Xinhuansince the modcp works on forum password, not the wowace/cf/curse password
18:56.41Belazorya if we enable the auth plugin then we cant log back in to the admincp :(
18:56.47Belazorso either we fix it before it times out or we're fucked
18:56.48BelazorXD
18:56.51Xinhuanyeah that would be disastrious
18:57.07Gnarfozask Ackis to help
18:57.07Gnarfozhe can dry-code a fix! :p
18:57.13Belazornot completely fucked tho, but just needing Kael to disable plugins via config.php
18:57.22Belazorbut tbh its a minor problem since it only affects staff
18:57.50Belazorand if kael will soon stop handing out admin/smod like it was [Candy Corn] then the problem is more or less contained as we can set passwords for you in the admincp XD
18:58.33Xinhuanlol
18:58.54Repo10fu-bar_tracker-fu: 038tImER * r54 : remove tsvn logtemplate
18:59.04ArrowmasterClassi still dont have forum mod =(
18:59.07Xinhuan8tImER lolol should ban that user name
18:59.09ArrowmasterClassi dont feel trusted =(
18:59.10Xinhuan:D
18:59.11GnarfozXinhuan: it is
18:59.47GnarfozXinhuan: it's not a valid username, i.e. you couldn't create a account of that name nowadays. but it's from 2005
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18:59.56Xinhuano_O
19:00.08Xinhuanstarts with a digit huh
19:00.15GnarfozXinhuan: I even had to have ckk remove (or relax) the regex on the "old username" field on the name change request form
19:00.21BelazorArrowmasterClass, less QQ and maybe youll get it!
19:01.00Gnarfozbut I've been mailing Kaelten about a name change since the early stages of the merge (july?) and now the form, and still I'm stuck with that awesome curse-gaming.com (v1 :P) username ^^
19:01.33ckknight:-P
19:02.08nevcairielGnarfoz: you could just re-register.. :)
19:02.10KriLL3Yssaril: why is mounted devolving? each update I try looses more and more functionality :(
19:02.28Gnarfoznevcairiel: uhm yeah and lose the connection between my wowace user and the curse one? not gonna happen
19:02.42Gnarfoznevcairiel: it's bad enough as it is, apparently my old forum user is simply gone. :p
19:03.02nevcairielwowace and curse are the same users
19:03.11Gnarfoznow they are, yes.
19:03.20Gnarfozremember, there was this 'migration' thing, recently :p
19:03.23nevcairielwe could transfer you the access you have to your new user
19:03.36Gnarfozthere isn't a "Gnarfoz" forum user, but my posts aren't attributed to "8tImER" either
19:03.48Xinhuanso whats the issue?
19:03.49nevcairielGnarfoz2?
19:03.51Gnarfozmaybe they were just pruned, that's a possibility I can't discount :P
19:04.20ArrowmasterClassthey cant just be gone
19:04.22Gnarfozcan't be that hard to simply rename the stupid account :D
19:04.51nevcairielhttp://forums.wowace.com/member.php?u=63911 <- not you?
19:04.53Gnarfozor is there simply not a tool for it that updates all the necessary locations and it'd be a by-hand thing? ;)
19:05.13ArrowmasterClassconsidering how bad the curse auth plugin is.....
19:05.19ArrowmasterClassi doubt theres a tool
19:05.26Gnarfoznevcairiel: oh neat, where did you find that? I couldn't find that. yes, that's my old forum user, I take it
19:05.32nevcairieli searched
19:05.35nevcairielfor users
19:05.36nevcairiel:P
19:05.38Gnarfoznevcairiel: but now when I go to the forums, I'm already logged in as 8tImER
19:05.45nevcairielyeah
19:06.20nevcairieli think Belazor can actually merge those
19:06.30ArrowmasterClass6 total posts cant be right is it?
19:06.31nevcairielso it doesnt collide when kaelten renames it, sometime
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19:07.04GnarfozArrowmasterClass: no, that's right. I knew I posted some crap some time and I shouldn't be at 0 posts ;)
19:07.59Repo10button-bin: 03dhedbor * r38 ButtonBin.lua:
19:07.59RepoNamed ButtonBin block frames ButtonBinBlockX where X is a serial number.
19:08.10GnarfozBelazor: can you do that? merge the forum accounts "8tImER" and "Gnarfoz" into "8tImER"? (yes that sounds the wrong way around but I want to keep the old user and have it renamed rather than re-register and be a 2008 newbie and so on ;))
19:08.43nevcairielNeoTron needs a rename, too
19:09.56Gnarfozloads of other people, do, too
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19:10.24GnarfozI'd have thought it more logical to have the wowace svn username come out on top in the merge ^^
19:11.03nevcairielthe wowace svn users didnt really survive the merge
19:11.03NeoTroncurse.com already has a neotron
19:13.23Gnarfoznevcairiel: yeah, figures. I wouldn't have ended up with my asinine username otherwise :D
19:14.08nevcairielmerges of two virtually independant systems are always fun, i'm glad it worked out so well
19:14.30nevcairielno idea how much work a rename really is, or why K doesnt do it
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19:15.22Gnarfozright now probably because he's not around :D
19:15.24nevcairielthey should've redone the whole auth dealy when doing new curse
19:15.31Gnarfozapart from that, no clue ^^
19:16.00[Ammo]kaelten is around
19:16.06[Ammo]just not working on wowace stuff atm
19:16.09[Ammo]he's working on the backend drek
19:16.22[Ammo]which will find its way into wowace
19:16.27Tristanianhe's working on the client too last I heard
19:16.38[Ammo]he's the manager
19:16.40[Ammo]afaik :)
19:16.44Tristanian;)
19:17.12[Ammo]not that it really matters
19:17.20[Ammo]some things still need fixing, but its usable for now
19:18.10Gnarfoz[Ammo]: I was more referring to his /away here on IRC ^^
19:18.34Gnarfozfunnily, his freenode account is 'Kaeltenaway', ;D
19:18.34BrunersWe've recently broken 500,000 Client installs.
19:18.46Brunersthat sentence looks wierd
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19:18.51Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1009 / (4 files in 3 directories): Dataminer update (minor turned off flag)
19:18.56[Ammo]oh he might be away but shrug
19:19.13JaxonBruners: I wonder how many are just "oh, new version"
19:19.13Gnarfozonly if it were "We recently broke 500,000 Client installs." :D
19:19.40nevcairielGnarfoz: yeah he linked his accounts backwards =P
19:22.06NeoTron[Ammo]: thanks for updating Fisherman's friend, I'll have my "patch" removed from wowi
19:22.30[Ammo]haha
19:22.37[Ammo]I had my PC releasing the magic smoke
19:22.42[Ammo]literaly
19:22.52NeoTronblue smoke of wonder and despair
19:22.52[Ammo]new one should arrive next week
19:23.03[Ammo]I should go from 8 fps in raids to at least 60+
19:23.06[Ammo]:)
19:23.15NeoTronI admit I never had a pc go blue smoke on me, although they ahve died in less spectacular fashions
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19:23.38nevcairieli've had blue smoke already
19:23.46[Ammo]I've had flames too
19:23.48nevcairielonce the PSU and once the motherboard
19:24.12[Ammo]we were handing out PCs on university to unknowning psychology students
19:24.16nevcairielbut, luckily, never in my main pc, always some random old box i abused for testing or as a server
19:24.21[Ammo]who got instructions on how to install it
19:24.24[Ammo]and what cable to put where
19:24.28nevcairiellol
19:24.32Brunersburned one psu once by swithcing the 220~ switch
19:24.32[Ammo]so these 100+ girls got their new PC
19:24.41[Ammo]and we made them hook em up one by one
19:24.52[Ammo]this girl hooked everything up correctly
19:24.54[Ammo]turned it one
19:25.00[Ammo]and a flame poofed from beneath it
19:25.05nevcairielo.O
19:25.11nevcairielwhats actually really flameable in there
19:25.16[Ammo]completely fried motherboard
19:25.21[Ammo]instantly
19:25.30[Ammo]her reaction was shock and horror
19:25.32nevcairielyou sure it was all correct? :p
19:25.35[Ammo]yeah
19:25.56nevcairielweird
19:25.59[Ammo]'no worries, we'll get you another'
19:26.07[Ammo]*grab next pc from the pile*
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19:26.13nevcairielyou should get one of those in every pile
19:26.18nevcairielhehe
19:27.10[Ammo]man the good old days
19:27.16[Ammo]that was 10 years ago or something
19:27.24odtanyone care to fix cowtip for arenas?
19:27.36odtstill getting bad unit: "arenaX" for each line in the tooltips
19:28.36AntiarcHoly crap!
19:28.54[Ammo]you've been shat on by the lord almighty?
19:29.03AntiarcBye bye software patents
19:29.09Tinyboomlol
19:29.19HirsuteAntiarc: Eh?
19:29.25Tinyboomque?
19:29.26Antiarchttp://www.itexaminer.com/us-court-throws-out-most-software-patents.aspx
19:29.29Antiarchttp://www.pli.edu/patentcenter/blog.asp?view=plink&id=369&poll=currentResults&pID=110&poll=currentResults&pID=111&poll=currentResults&pID=112&poll=currentResults&pID=113&poll=currentResults&pID=114
19:30.15BrunersAntiarc: what bars do you use?
19:30.21BrunersAntiarc: and barskins
19:30.28AntiarcPitBull are my current unit frames
19:30.34AntiarcBartender4 are by action bars
19:30.57AntiarcAnd I think I use the Adorne buttonfacade skin
19:31.41HirsuteAntiarc: Thanks.  Wow.  That's going to change the landscape a bit.
19:31.53AntiarcYeah. Just a little.
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19:32.47JaxonIs that one of the default BF skins?  i haven't installed it yet.
19:33.48BrunersAntiarc: how did you make two buttons large on each side and small ones in the middle?
19:33.57Antiarc3 separate bars
19:34.03Brunersok
19:34.29Gnarfozyay flexibility, I guess
19:34.30XuerianAntiarc: Holy shit
19:34.30Gnarfoz;p
19:34.33TinyboomAntiarc: hummm, care to put that in the type of english I have the brains to understand after a full day of work and not having english as my native language....ohhh ,BRAAAAIIIIINSSS ^^
19:34.44XuerianSoftware patents just got pwned? This is awesome.
19:34.49Antiarcyes.
19:35.22XuerianI mean, beyond awesome. I think I might just .... well, that's not really appropriate for this chat room
19:35.34Gnarfozanyone know off hand how the software patent thing played out in the EU, anyway? I kind of lost track back then.
19:39.12Tinyboomwould this affect us users in any way? and won't it be appealed for the next x number years?
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19:40.33DashkalTinyboom: users are affected in that it'll be harder for vendors to lock them down.  Appeals?  Depends on how good software vendors get at bribery I expect.
19:41.11BrunersAntiarc: do you have link to the in combat shot ?
19:41.28Repo10socialist: 03eblume * r39 Socialist.lua: Socialist:
19:41.28Repo- Minor additions to db query interface.
19:41.29Repo- Maybe 75% to first displayable alpha.
19:41.41XuerianTinyboom: Proprietary software.. More alternatives >:)
19:42.11Antiarchttp://i37.tinypic.com/2w3tiqh.jpg
19:42.13XuerianTinyboom: More alternatives, more competition. More competition, more value and less price for said software
19:42.47XuerianAntiarc: Whars the minimap =O
19:43.04AntiarcIt disappears in combat
19:43.15XuerianAhh
19:43.32HirsuteApple and Microsoft won't be able to slap people for making software with similar features....
19:44.55NeoTronMight invalidate the patent I'm a co-inventor of.. http://www.google.com/patents?id=csGWAAAAEBAJ
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19:45.14NeoTronheh google found a patent with my brother as the inventor: http://www.google.com/patents?id=Z9eoAAAAEBAJ
19:46.24Gnarfozand I thought that was a play on words with 'dead boar'
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19:48.49NeoTronnegative.
19:49.05BrunersAntiarc: how do you make recount hide ?
19:49.14AntiarcI'm using a kgpanels script
19:49.27Brunersaha
19:49.27NeoTronit's my last name and it has its origins in my great grandfather who made it up from the words "Heda" and "bor". Heda is the name of a place where he lived, "bor" means live
19:49.32PrimerGuildy is telling me run speed meta gem stacks with boar's speed. Anyone verify this?
19:49.32XuerianYou know the number one reason I'm glad these patents are getting invalidated?
19:49.37XuerianI can't read the motherfuckers
19:49.52NeoTronI agree
19:50.00XuerianThey violate every single grammatical principle there is 0_o
19:50.06NeoTronI didn't exactly push for the patent I'm named on but I had to read it and validate it
19:50.13NeoTronit was... a bit tough to understd wtf it was all about
19:50.19XuerianNeoTron: Summary?
19:51.11NeoTrona boolean engine used to determine what rights a user has to watch a piece of DRM'd content (it determines if you can watch it and what rights are associated - i.e how long you can watch it etc)
19:51.12XuerianActually, nevermind, just figured out it's a fancy login/user system
19:51.16NeoTronevil stuff
19:51.24XuerianWell... I was close >_>
19:51.44NeoTronI have no idea why they wanted to patent it but... patent self preservation
19:52.16NeoTronthe big losers here are the lawyers... the ones doing patent research and submissions
19:52.26NeoTronwhich is a good thing
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19:53.03XuerianBusinesses may not be happy that their patents are gone, but that is the huge upside, don't have to scrounge and scurry to patent every little thing
19:53.20GnarfozAntiarc: what ldb displayer is that?
19:53.26Antiarcbuttonbin
19:53.39Gnarfozmultiple bins then, I guess? :\
19:53.50Antiarcyeah
19:54.11Gnarfozsigh :\
19:54.21BrunersAntiarc: btw, you want a chatter bug ?
19:54.49GnarfozI know FuBar works fine and I can just use Broker2Fubar, but hell I'd like to switch to LDB based stuff mainly. :X but I can't even get it to look remotely acceptable
19:54.54NeoTronGnarfoz: what's wrong with that, really?
19:55.06Gnarfozwith what? :)
19:55.06NeoTronhttp://eongames.com/tmp/ss.jpg that is almost identical to my fubar setup..
19:55.19AeyanButtonBin is the best I've found for the 'bar' display look
19:55.26Gnarfozyour fubar setup had text enabled for launcher plugins?
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19:55.31Gnarfozthat just show "addon name"?
19:55.47NeoTronGnarfoz: depends. I had a bunch of buttons without labels
19:55.59NeoTronjust like I do now
19:56.09Gnarfozalso why does Broker_Mail insist on showing "No Mail" instead of just showing nothing, or 0, like MailFu did? :X
19:56.23Gnarfozyeah but ButtonBin only allows to configure that per bin
19:56.30NeoTronyeah I am aware
19:56.40Gnarfozso I have to re-order my plugins
19:56.43NeoTronbut that's why you can have more tahn one. ;-)
19:56.52NeoTronalthough I still want to add per-block config
19:56.54Gnarfoznot that big a deal, really, but interleaving is impossible ^^
19:57.17NeoTronyep
19:57.29GnarfozI should just start fixing other areas of my UI first and later revisit this whole fubar situation
19:57.40AeyanI get my Hallowed title on Tuesday
19:57.41AeyanHappiness
19:57.53Gnarfozmaybe I won't go mad and finish re-doing my UI before Wrath release, ;D
19:58.15AeyanI need a new set of borders for the UI
19:58.22AeyanMine are just... stale.
19:58.28Fisker-i hate you NeoTron
19:58.36Gnarfoz@project ace2
19:58.36RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ace2/. Ace2. Game: WoW. Status: Out of date. Imported from wowace SVN project Ace2. Leader: Kaelten. Authors: Rabbit, hyperactiveChipmunk, Nevcairiel, ckknight, Arrowmaster. Updated: 16 days ago. Tickets: 3/4
19:58.44Gnarfozout of date is nice
19:58.55nevcairielwell it is :P
19:59.00Fisker-rages
19:59.02TristanianI blame nev
19:59.04Tristanian:p
19:59.22Gnarfozas the top most comment on the project nicely puts it:
19:59.24Gnarfoz"Pretty sure a majority of addons still use Ace2... and my error log can confirm that... Let's continue fixing this until it's phased out, thanks! " :p
20:00.04GnarfozI'm aware it's been commited to after the move, but bumping .toc # to 30k and letting that sit as an alpha instead of tagging it when nothing is broken is really weird :p
20:01.03nevcairielthe wowace page is dead again, cant load anything
20:01.12nevcairielckknight ^
20:01.34ckknightwowace page?
20:01.48nevcairielhm now it works again
20:02.00Brunersckk fixed it
20:02.07nevcairieli bet it didnt work at all for about a minute
20:02.09DashkalI tried as well.  The added pressure must have unclocked the tibe
20:02.13Dashkalclogged*
20:02.23ckknighttubes
20:03.01Dashkalthat too
20:03.28Xinhuanthe internet is a series of tubes!
20:04.15pentium166a gigantic nuclear furnace
20:04.17pentium166er, wait
20:06.01Kemayoasmodai: I just want to note that I completely support you fixing InstanceMaps.
20:07.02Fisker-so nevcairiel
20:07.09Fisker-any progress on focus casting? :3
20:07.22nevcairielget the alpha, works already
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20:07.30Fisker-:E
20:07.45Fisker-but it was you who changed to this system so you wouldn't have people going like
20:07.50Fisker-"WAAAAAAAH THIS ALPHA DOESN'T WORK"
20:08.12nevcairielwell you can also wait for the release
20:08.31nevcairieli dont care really
20:08.32Aiigah, halloween sucks.
20:08.36Brunersthink i scared Antiarc
20:08.45Aiiall the zombies moaning 'braiiiiins' keeps highlighting me.
20:08.47Fisker-but i do :3
20:09.17nevcairielAii: get word boundaries into your highlight, imho :)
20:09.42nevcairielI have one on nev, and people say "never" and some other words all the time .. :)
20:09.55DashkalAii: I want to I want to nom on your braiins...
20:09.57Gnarfozword boundaries, yay
20:10.38Tristaniantesting...
20:10.38Aiinevcairiel: I have them on pidgin at home
20:10.41Tristaniannever
20:10.45Tristanian:p
20:10.53Repo10automaton: 03gxxam 07master * f4dd2ff modules (14 files in 2 directories): [+7 commits] (3 truncated)
20:10.53Repof4dd2ff: Remove some 3 year old debug statements that are apparently causing nil dereference errors.
20:10.53Aiibut I don't really feel like modifying the hilight script for irssi
20:10.55Repo9eb7a26: Merge branch 'master' into delocalize
20:10.58Repoec5224f: De-acelocalify a bunch of stuff
20:11.02Repo0766083: De-acelocalify release
20:11.52nevcairielHm where do i get about 1200 reputation with exodar if i've done their starting areas already
20:12.17AeyanForest Song?
20:12.31Fisker-nevcairiel runecloth
20:12.45nevcairielrunecloth sucks :(
20:13.03nevcairielI have one quest left that supposedly gives 500 reputation with alliance
20:13.04nevcairieldoes
20:13.11Fisker-btw
20:13.14nevcairieli need more of those
20:13.21Fisker-what's the point in the curse client if it can't pick up alpha releases on wowace?
20:13.34pentium166doesn't just doing alliance quests give you rep with the other factions?
20:13.39pentium166I was never 100% sure how that worked
20:13.50nevcairielpentium166: yeah, 25%, but that would take a while :D
20:14.01Fisker-I believe the zombie quests give alliance rep as well
20:14.13Fisker-and there's the orphanage quest for hallow's end
20:14.25nevcairieldone and done
20:14.33AeyanForest Song, plus a few in the Hinterlands, Swamp of Sorrows, West Plaguelands camp
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20:14.46AeyanThink there's an exodar guy in Southshore too
20:14.49nevcairielswamp? where there?
20:15.05AeyanThat little Broken camp in the NW
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20:16.02Xinhuannevcairiel: AV
20:16.16Xinhuan20 rep per 5 storm crystals
20:16.32Xinhuanso you only need to loot and turn in 300 storm crystals for 1200 rep
20:16.37Xinhuaneasily doable in 1 hour
20:16.39DashkalXinhuan: where do you actually turn those in?  I've never actually found him
20:16.53Xinhuanif yuo're alliance, in the path next to the north bunker
20:16.54nevcairielXinhuan: i can farm and handin runecloth faster then that :P
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20:17.02Xinhuanyeah but stormcrystals is free
20:17.05Xinhuanand u get honor to boot
20:17.12Fisker-rages more
20:17.14Xinhuanand possibly AV tokens
20:17.21nevcairielalliance pvp sucks on my BG, specially AV
20:17.29Xinhuanrunecloth is like 8g a stack
20:17.31Xinhuansif turn them in
20:17.33Xinhuani AH them
20:17.45Fisker-you can't suck av :(
20:18.12AeyanOh, I beg to differ.
20:18.26nevcairielnah i'll do random other quests with the 63 reputation per quest =P
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20:18.52GnarfozI know I've asked this before....
20:18.53Fisker-nevcairiel makes me happy in my pants
20:19.02GnarfozX-Embeds is no longer necessary for anything, right?
20:19.08nevcairielright
20:19.55Gnarfozis X-Category? ^^
20:21.30Xinhuannevcairiel, the storm crystals is 20 to all 5 cities per 5 crystals ;p
20:21.33Arrowmasteri dont think its required but i think i remember there being a precommit hook that checks if it matchs some preset categories
20:21.36Xinhuanand 40 to ironforge
20:21.40Xinhuansince 20 is really spillover
20:21.47nevcairieli dont need other citys anymore
20:21.55nevcairielonly need 1200 rep for exodar and i'm done
20:22.08Repo10utopia: 03Zeksie * r16 / (2 files in 1 directory):
20:22.09RepoUtopia: Fixed Trauma from always showing, and stacks now removed from icons when they should be.
20:22.14Xinhuanneeds 2199 rep to max :)
20:22.18Dashkalnevcairiel: no no no, 1/1000 ex just looks bad, you need it anyway to fill :p
20:22.35nevcairieli set them to inactive
20:22.39nevcairieland they fill at the next world event
20:22.45nevcairiel*shrug
20:22.55Dashkalbah, so untidy :p
20:22.57NeoTronZeksie: so I tried utopia.. and I couldn't move the bar even when unlocked
20:23.10Zeksieit's the bar bit that's draggable. not the icons
20:23.16Zeksieit does state this in tooltip :)
20:23.30NeoTronI tried to drag the bar
20:23.31NeoTronit didn't work
20:23.32Zeksiejust hadn't gotten round to doing all
20:23.40Zeksieyou fail
20:23.40nevcairielDashkal: i have more achievements to work on =P
20:23.41NeoTronoh wait
20:23.54NeoTronyou can't just move the whole thing, have to find a pixel outside the buttons?
20:24.01Dashkalnevcairiel: heh, fair enough :p
20:24.12Zeksiejust haveb't done it yet.. deal with it
20:24.55NeoTronZeksie: nevur!
20:25.01Zeksieheh
20:25.14Zeksiefeel like crap today. so have done about.... nothing..
20:25.14NeoTronso the option to lock/unlock is then confusing :P
20:25.32NeoTronit was sitting right where my raid notifications are shown so I couldn't see it :P
20:25.41Zeksieheh
20:26.04XinhuanZeksie making unintuitive UIs? that's a first ;p
20:26.25NeoTronZeksie: have you gotten reports of ZOMG not working correctly btw?
20:26.35NeoTronI was playing my pally last night and half the time it wouldn't rebuff blessings
20:26.49NeoTronlike it put blessings on the pets, put self buffs/aura on myself... but didn't but the party members
20:26.52Zeksieomg!
20:27.01Aeyan...zomg?
20:27.16NeoTronI did it manually and it worked fine, just curious if it's a known issue
20:27.22ZeksieNeoTron: prolly ppl out of range or something, it wouldd have been waiting for something like that.
20:27.40elite3vilNeoTron: I haven't had any problems like that unless people were OOR
20:27.43NeoTronwell since manual buffing worked fine, they were clearly not out of range ;-)
20:27.57NeoTronand as far as I know, I'm usually not OOR of myself
20:28.00Zeksieppl can be in range to buff if they're memeber of a class and you buff someone else int he class (like 80 yards), but not physcally in range of the spell, so zomg skips them
20:28.07Zeksiewrong
20:28.13NeoTronit buffed pets (10m blessings), but none of the greater ones
20:28.32NeoTronthis was a 5-man party, all different classes
20:28.32Zeksiejust check what it says next time. prolly had the clocky thing up
20:28.56Zeksieand maybe you have the wait for party/raid option enabled or something
20:29.02NeoTronid I recall correctly it worked fine in ZA
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20:29.27elite3vilOnly odd-ish thing I've been noticing is after I die, and run back to my corpse it takes a minute to realize I'm not dead anymore.. unless I PW:S myself or something.
20:31.02Zeksieelite3vil: noticed that too. but i'm buggered if I cna work head nor tail of this code any more.. needs scrapping and re-doing imo.. ;)
20:31.20NeoTronI've had times where buffing someone manually caused the auto-buffing to start working..
20:31.29NeoTronso i's possible it's the same thing
20:31.44Zeksieyeh. most likely is. missing a scheduled re-check somewhere
20:31.49NeoTronbut only for greater blessings, it buffed other stuff fine including bacon of light
20:32.26Repo10fu-bar_tracker-fu: 038tImER * r55 / (5 files in 1 directory):
20:32.27Repo- switch to .pkgmeta for externals & no-lib-strip for future disembedding support, update toc#
20:32.28Repo- unset svn properties
20:32.48elite3vilZeksie: It's not enough to be annoying at least.
20:33.20elite3vilWhat *is* annoying is the one paladin that is too lazy to switch from PP to ZOMG, even though he bitches about PP every. single. raid.
20:33.31Zeksieheh
20:33.39NeoTronZeksie: oh, is it intentional that you can't move raid group positions if you're in a raid (drag and drop, not changing scale and such)?
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20:33.58NeoTronbecause in AV I couldn't move any of grouo 1-8, but could move the higher (empty, not used) ones fine
20:34.13Zeksiedrag with the title
20:34.35NeoTronhmm
20:35.20elite3vilZeksie: So are you trying to say that you're going to recode ZOMG at some point here? =P
20:35.36Zeksieproblem i had with trying to drag from the frames proper, is it would start activating my Clique clicks..
20:35.50Zeksieelite3vil: i didn't say I was going to.. I said it needed it :)
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20:36.52NeoTronZeksie: put a dummy frame on top of it like ButtonBin? :P
20:37.19Zeksienah, i'm doing it now... cept there's no UnregisterForDrag function... wth..
20:37.27Zeksiedo you do RegisterForDrag(nil) ?
20:38.10Tristanianstore it, nil it, restore it ? :p
20:38.12Zeksiedoing in utopia that is.
20:38.50GnarfozMain (zhTW) and Main (deDE) are useless right now, right? curse is no longer multi-language?
20:39.11Repo10utopia: 03Zeksie * r17 Utopia.lua: Utopia: Can now drag with the icons.
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20:44.01Raegxhoooooooo
20:44.38Raegx@arrow @ck @nev any on?
20:45.19Fisker-Is there no way to exit maraudon after jumping down the waterfall?
20:45.27Arrowmaster?
20:45.29NeoTrondon't think there is
20:45.35genetik-run all the way around
20:45.37ArrowmasterFisker-: yes, theres a path back up
20:45.43Fisker-BLARGH
20:45.50Repo10tooltip-item-info: 03Ammo * r30 TooltipItemInfo.lua: add support for items in the guildbank
20:45.55NeoTronhearth is your friend. embrace the hearth
20:45.55Fisker-i wanna kill the dungeon designer :(
20:45.56Xinhuanthere is a path
20:45.57Xinhuanbut
20:46.04Xinhuanit'll take you about 8 min to run it
20:46.13NeoTronmany old world dungeons, and heck, even BC dungeons, lack handy exits
20:46.14Zyndromehttp://www.joystiq.com/2008/10/31/obama-palin-coming-to-mercenaries-2-dlc/
20:46.16Xinhuanfrom princess to the top of the waterfall
20:46.17Zyndromewhaaaaaaaat?
20:46.23Xinhuanthen another 10 min for u to run out from there
20:46.29Xinhuanyou'll best hearth and fly back ;p
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20:46.51NeoTronso far WotLK dungeons seems to often have quick exits where appropriate
20:46.56Xinhuannot all
20:46.56Repo10o-uf_combat-feedback: 03Ammo * r34 oUF_CombatFeedback.toc: toc to the hand
20:47.09XinhuanShattered Halls doesn't, Mana tombs doesn't, crypts etc
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20:47.19genetik-mana tombs has an easy exit
20:47.23AeyanMana Tombs does
20:47.28Xinhuanhmm
20:47.34genetik-it drops you right at the first boss
20:47.42Xinhuanhmm
20:47.46doom0ractually, i noticed that
20:47.49Xinhuanmost people go back and do the escort anyway
20:48.00doom0rthe design on the original instances, all the lower ones have quick exits
20:48.14Xinhuanarcatraz sucks
20:48.20Xinhuandeadmines has a nice exit
20:48.21AeyanHehe
20:48.27doom0rso does shadowfang keep
20:48.28AeyanI ran that way too many times for my damn hood
20:48.39doom0rthey layer allt he walkways back over areas so you can jump down
20:48.51genetik-deadmines is the only one i can think of that has the easy exit at a low level
20:49.05doom0rwc brings you back to the start point for the last boss
20:49.34Arrowmastertheres other reasons WC sucks though
20:49.35NeoTronZyndrome: so is it scary that I could, in fact, imagine Palin doing that stuff? ;-)
20:49.53genetik-i just went to WC for the first time the other week for the achievement.. what a piss-poor instance design
20:50.07genetik-why not just put a piece of cheese at the end
20:50.08NeoTronWC is just confusing, but it does have a nice exit
20:51.21genetik-ubrs kind of had a quick reverse
20:51.28genetik-back into the rookery
20:52.14genetik-DM east
20:52.32NeoTronthere are definitely nice quick exits in some
20:52.46NeoTronBRD.. .LBRS.. shiver
20:52.50genetik-heh
20:53.02genetik-aq40 had the fake quick exit
20:53.03genetik-heh
20:53.11NeoTronyeah wtf is up with that?
20:53.19genetik-dunno.. i always thought it was a bug
20:53.19NeoTronit seems like there should be a quick exit but there isn't
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20:53.27Gnarfoznever found out
20:53.28Gnarfoz:D
20:53.30NeoTronclearly a door that could open right at the exit
20:53.37NeoTronthat doesn't open
20:53.39genetik-yeah
20:53.44Amadeohelro
20:53.52genetik-maybe there's a secret boss that no one has ever found that unlocks it
20:54.06genetik-deep within the stomach of c'thun
20:54.19GnarfozRaegx: funny how you failed to actually highlight any of the guys you were trying to highlight, except for maybe nev. ;p
20:54.34doom0ri ran lbrs 4 times cause i kept ending up without mother's milk on me
20:54.39doom0r...
20:54.40Gnarfozgenetik-: sure, take a left when you enter the stomach, instead of fighting the tentacles :p
20:54.44doom0r~epic fail doom0r
20:54.44purldoom0r, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you doom0r, you are that epic failure.
20:54.47genetik-hehe
20:54.52Arrowmasteri think that boss was named viscidus
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20:55.31Arrowmasterdid anybody ever actually kill cthun, ouro, and viscidus in the same week?
20:55.45Tristanianin general ?
20:56.00doom0rprogression?
20:56.09Tristanianprogression wise I dont think so
20:56.23doom0rno, i'm pretty sure vodka did 2 of them the same week
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20:56.32Arrowmasteri thought most guilds killed viscidus like once then ignored him
20:56.33doom0ri could be mistaken
20:57.30Tristanianviscidus wasn't worth the trouble but usually a clear didn't take more than a few hours
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20:57.33NeoTronArrowmaster: we did a little while ago.... at 70 that is
20:57.34Tristanianincluding him
20:57.37falconindyAntiarc: does SexyMap support the Capture Mover frame yet? Am I missing it?
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21:00.31KriLL3falconindy: all pvp addons moves that, I'm guessing it's redundant
21:00.59Tristanianworst thing about AQ was going back to Maraudon for Huhuran
21:01.02Tristanian:p
21:01.07falconindyKriLL3: hrmm, im not used to that. SimpleMiniMap and Chinchilla both moved that frame for me
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21:01.39Adirelle[SW]Dodge: ping ?
21:02.00[SW]DodgeAdirelle: pong :O
21:02.13Adirelledid you try the latest SSR alpha for the tracking stuff ?
21:04.12[SW]Dodgei'm using what cc gives me (beta)
21:04.15XinhuanAQ40 lol
21:04.19Xinhuanworst trash ever
21:04.40Xinhuanespecially the 5 mini bosses between huhuran and twins
21:04.45Aiidepends on how you define 'worst'
21:04.52Adirellehrm... I need someone but me to test the alpha, my tests were quite rough
21:04.58Adirelles/rough/simple/
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21:06.28Tristanianactually the Anubisath dudes were fine, pre-cthun trash was way worse
21:06.31Repo10addon-loader: 03Ammo * r63 / (2 files in 2 directories): no more logtemplate drek
21:06.32Tristanian:p
21:06.46Repo10simple-self-rebuff: 03Adirelle 04v2.0.2-beta-2 * r193 : Tagging as v2.0.2-beta-2.
21:06.49Xinhuanprecthun trash was actually good for trash epics andmounts though!
21:06.55Xinhuanthe 5 anubisath weren't lol
21:07.01Tristanianheh
21:07.33TristanianI think I still have a red crystal in the bank somewhere :p
21:07.36Tristanianreminder
21:07.36Gnarfozmeh I have to agree with Tristanian there
21:07.45Gnarfozpost-twins trash was way worse
21:07.58Tristanianjust a needless time sink really
21:08.12Xinhuanthe purpose of that trash is to give you scarabs/idols
21:08.51Repo10minimapster: 03Ammo * r42 / (2 files in 2 directories): remove log template and fix libstub external
21:09.05Adirelle[SW]Dodge: please check
21:09.05Adirellev2.0.2-beta-2
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21:09.53Tristanianand then the fun part, cthun with tentacles spawning in mid air or buried half inside walls
21:10.30Xinhuanor twins despawning for 30 min because someone was outside the doors on engage
21:10.35Tristanianah ye
21:10.37Tristanianhahahaha
21:10.40[SW]DodgeAdirelle: updating
21:11.31Repo10mountiful: 03Jomar * r11 / (2 files in 1 directory): Mountiful:
21:11.32Repo- Added paging to options
21:11.33Repo- Pet commands should alternate between summoning and being put away now
21:11.58molgaranyone know how can i remove the "realm name" in this line; fontstring:SetText(UnitName("TARGET")) ?
21:12.12Xinhuani thought i told someone that yesterday
21:12.18Arrowmasteryou did
21:12.27Xinhuanfontstring:SetText(strsplit("-", UnitName("TARGET")))
21:12.53molgarthat only seperated em into ,
21:12.58Arrowmasterfontstring:SetText((strsplit("-", UnitName("TARGET"))))
21:13.10Xinhuanyeah, if sets the first return value
21:13.14Arrowmastertry that one
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21:13.35XinhuanArrowmaster's version just has an extra () in there hehe
21:13.47Raegxany of you guys following openRDX at all?
21:13.49Raegxits interesting
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21:13.51pastamancerthe extra () is important though!
21:13.58Raegxmight be nice as   ...... aceRDX ^_^
21:14.03Repo10crow-bar: 03Ammo * r40 / (2 files in 2 directories):
21:14.04Repotoc the the hand and fix libstub external, probably doesn't work atm, will test properly next week or so
21:14.09Xinhuani forgot SetText() took in more argumens
21:14.10Xinhuan;p
21:14.13molgarhmm... okey i'll try ones more then, but yesterday when i tryed, i only got an , insted of - and the realm name was still there
21:14.16pastamancerrdx doesn't need a framework, it is a framework
21:14.21molgarso i thought it was wrong
21:14.30molgarbut maby i done something wrong then
21:14.40Tristanianafaik rdx is meant for designers rather than developers
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21:14.43Tristanianor so I heard
21:15.18Fisker-punches
21:15.46Repo10lock-smith: 03Ammo * r50 / (2 files in 2 directories):
21:15.47Repotoc to the hand, and fix libstub external, testing is for losers.
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21:16.46Gnarfozrdx is for /dev/null, imo
21:17.28Xinhuanwhen an addon needs encryption and keys and stuff, its getting way too serious ;p
21:18.25Repo10socialist: 03eblume * r40 Socialist.lua: Socialist:
21:18.26Repo- Some more query processing. Nearly done! Exciting!
21:18.27Repo- Going to need to learn to recycle frames or this will get nuts.
21:18.32PrimerOk, you all are going to think I'm even geekier than before, but...here's the costume my wife and I made for my son, who is 10: http://sh.nu/download/images/halloween/img_3314.jpg
21:19.07Gnarfoz@project quartz
21:19.07RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/quartz/. Quartz. Game: WoW. Leader: Nymbia. Updated: 11 days ago. Tickets: 7/7
21:19.19Xinhuanwhere did you get the skulls from? ;p
21:19.43Gnarfozorc sized shoulders ftw
21:19.59TristanianI like the red shades
21:20.01Tristanian:p
21:20.15Xinhuanneeds a tabard
21:20.19XuerianHahaha, that's awesome Primer
21:20.37Xinhuanthe bare black chest looks a bit plain in contrast to the rest
21:21.27XuerianPull a irony and make it the argent dawn tabard
21:21.47NeoTronmy daughter is alice in wonderland... and my son is a fireman for the 4th year in a row... :P
21:21.58PrimerXuerian: we kinda ran out of time
21:22.10XuerianAh well :p. Looks good anyway!
21:23.29Zeksielua> ("raid1"):gsub("^(%a+)(%d+)$", "%1pet%2")
21:23.29lua_botZeksie: raidpet1, 1
21:24.04DashkalPrimer: very very nice
21:24.39PrimerMy daughter is a witch: http://sh.nu/download/images/halloween/img_3310.jpg
21:25.12blimelock t5 shoulders?
21:25.21Primerblime: that was the goal
21:25.23Xinhuanshe needs a tabard too :D
21:25.25Repo10handynotes_guild: 03Nevcairiel * r41 / (3 files in 2 directories):
21:25.26RepoRemove embeds.xml in favor of no-lib-strip and remove externals and libs dir
21:25.28blimethat's pretty cool :)
21:25.31Primerbut I like to think of them as arena season 2 shoulders :)
21:25.51Primerright now the red patches are there for "daytime operation"
21:25.55Repo10addon-loader: 03Ammo * r64 : external that means outside, so not here, bye!
21:26.07Primertonight they'll be removed and replaced with red glowsticks
21:26.27Primerit's also T5/S2 helm
21:26.35Primernote the chain going over his head
21:27.25blimehehe
21:28.14Repo10addon-loader: 03Ammo * r65 AddonLoader.toc: nolibstriptiptotheflip
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21:28.53XuerianAntiarc: TexBrowser is win :)
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21:31.59Repo10bug-grabber: 03Arrowmaster * r134 / (7 files in 2 directories):
21:32.00RepoMake calls to LibStub and CallbackHandler-1.0 safe for if either is not found
21:32.00RepoRemove LibStub and CallbackHandler-1.0 since BugGrabber is ment to not depend on anything
21:32.02RepoRevert Mikk's quick fix now that a proper fix has been made
21:32.06RepoCleanup svn properties
21:32.31Arrowmaster^^^ fucking svk:merge property thats been around since like r7xxx
21:32.44Repo10better-inbox: 03Ammo * r75 / (2 files in 2 directories): remove externals and libstrip that shit
21:33.36Repo10better-inbox: 03Ammo * r76 BetterInbox.toc: end the libstrip as well
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21:34.22Repo10crow-bar: 03Ammo * r41 / (2 files in 2 directories): remove externals and libstrip that shit
21:34.58Repo10fishermans-friend: 03Ammo * r73 / (2 files in 2 directories): remove externals and libstrip that shit
21:35.26DashkalPrimer: what material did you use for building it?
21:36.14Repo10guild-filter: 03Ammo * r47 / (2 files in 2 directories): remove externals and libstrip that shit
21:36.40Repo10lock-smith: 03Ammo * r51 / (2 files in 2 directories): remove externals and libstrip that shit
21:37.33Repo10minimapster: 03Ammo * r43 / (4 files in 2 directories): remove externals and libstrip that shit
21:37.54PrimerDashkal: foam from boxes used to ship our 1U servers :)
21:38.00Primerfrom supermicro
21:38.03Repo10fdlogger: 038tImER * r27 FDLogger.toc: - update .toc
21:38.21DashkalPrimer: The geek is strong in you.  *salute*
21:38.26Primer/bow
21:38.29Repo10smooth-durability: 03Ammo * r69 / (2 files in 2 directories): remove externals and libstrip that shit
21:38.56PrimerDashkal: add some toothpicks, glue, primer, and paint...voilà!
21:39.04Repo10smooth-quest: 03Ammo * r54 / (2 files in 2 directories): remove externals and libstrip that shit
21:39.41Repo10steroids: 03Ammo * r41 / (2 files in 2 directories): remove externals and libstrip that shit
21:40.15Repo10witch-hunt: 03Ammo * r211 / (2 files in 2 directories): remove externals and libstrip that shit
21:40.18GnarfozPrimer using primer... uh oh recursiveness :p
21:40.18DashkalVery very cool.  Right now I'm wishing I had some foam on hand... I want to sever one of my arms without, you know, actually losing the arm
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21:42.05Repo10fdlogger: 038tImER 041.1 * r28 : Version 1.1, still works on 3.0.2 ;-)
21:43.50Arrowmasterlua> "^[^\\]*" == [[^[^\]*]]
21:43.51lua_botArrowmaster: true
21:43.56Arrowmasterok which is more readable?
21:44.13nevcairielthe first
21:45.13Arrowmasterlua> "^%[string \".-([^\\]+\\)([^\\]-)\"%](:%d+):(.*)$" == [[^%[string ".-([^\]+\)([^\]-)"%](:%d+):(.*)$]]
21:45.14lua_botArrowmaster: true
21:45.20Arrowmasterwhich is more readable?
21:45.49Brunersanyone fancy helping me debug my little addon? (40 lines)
21:46.03GngskBruners, what's it do?
21:46.20nevcairielArrowmaster: neither
21:46.31Repo10itemrackfu: 038tImER * r12 FuBar_ItemRackFu.toc: - .toc update, seems to still work fine. :)
21:46.39doom0rArrowmaster: stop finding ways to put smilies in your code
21:46.47Brunerstries to check what race the mob you are targetting and make a macro with track that race (hunter tracking)
21:47.12Brunerscode http://pastey.net/100272 - error http://pastey.net/100271
21:47.27Arrowmasternevcairiel: fine i wont touch the patterns
21:47.44nevcairielwhat are you doing anyway?
21:49.21Repo10itemrackfu: 038tImER 041.3 * r13 : Version 1.3, still works on 3.0.2
21:49.39Aiisame thing he does every night, nevcairiel
21:49.43Aiitry to take over the world
21:50.03nevcairielDon't we all do that?
21:50.21Dashkalnevcairiel: nah, don't want the job of running it afterwords
21:50.30nevcairieldelegate!
21:50.47DashkalMinions have this nasty habit of taking over if you don't pay attention
21:51.13Aiiwhere's that evil overlord top100 list when you need it
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21:52.11doom0rAii: it's called /.'s search
21:53.27charonDashkal: randomly kill a constant fraction of them every so often
21:53.42Dashkalcharon: there is that
21:56.16Repo10bug-grabber: 03Arrowmaster * r135 / (2 files in 1 directory):
21:56.17RepoConvert all AceLibrary and Rock usage to direct LibStub usage, thus pure LibStub libraries without a :GetLibraryVersion() function are now identified as libraries
21:56.18RepoRemove silly "Title-koKR:" from toc that just colored the English title
21:57.00[SW]DodgeAdirelle: ping, beta2 has atrackings
21:57.14[SW]Dodge-a
21:57.26Adirelle[SW]Dodge: I now, has it some bug with the other buffs ? :p
21:57.27Arrowmasteryes i split my work out over two commits incase vhaarr tries to kill me
21:57.33Adirelles/ now/ know/
21:57.47[SW]DodgeAdirelle: wasnt able to test yet ^^
21:57.57[SW]Dodgezg -> mc first boss -> ZA <.<
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22:01.31GnarfozArrowmaster: you think there's a chance he won't?
22:02.00Arrowmasteryes
22:02.44Gnarfozhehe
22:07.02Repo10bug-grabber: 03pr0ff * r136 / (2 files in 1 directory): Add ruRU locale
22:07.22Arrowmaster.....
22:07.33nevcairielhah
22:07.51[Ammo]motherfucker
22:07.57[Ammo]can we just ban all .ru
22:08.09pastamancerhaha
22:08.09Arrowmasterdid he actually break something?
22:08.17[Ammo]he probably removed and added
22:08.21nevcairielnah he just added locations
22:08.32[Ammo]oh, a smart person/
22:08.46nevcairielyou cant do the A/D in one commit really, svn yells at you then
22:10.42Xinhuani rofled
22:10.46Xinhuanwhen ammo yelled
22:10.50[Ammo]hey
22:10.53[Ammo]I yell quickly :)
22:11.02[Ammo]it used to be the asians
22:11.08[Ammo]but russians are the new hip
22:11.23JaxonI'm amazed at how quickly some of the addons get localized after being updated by the real authors.
22:11.23Arrowmasterjncl reported file r55 of LSM3 because of my commit message yelling at him
22:11.28Repo10cryolysis3: 03Belazor * r69 / (2 files in 2 directories):
22:11.29RepoMake :GetHighestRank work with the result of :GetLookupTable
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22:11.36Xinhuanyes he did
22:11.43Xinhuanand now that you read it, you can close that ticket
22:11.52Arrowmasteri read it earlyer
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22:12.06Arrowmasteri didnt want to close it because i thought it would look bad if i did
22:12.12Gnarfoz@project libsharedmedia-3.0
22:12.12RepoGnarfoz: No project found that matches 'libsharedmedia-3.0'
22:12.18Gnarfoz@project libshared-media-3.0
22:12.18RepoGnarfoz: No project found that matches 'libshared-media-3.0'
22:12.21XinhuanJaxon, depends on how popular that addon is
22:12.22nevcairiel3-0
22:12.23GnarfozGAHH fucking dash mess
22:12.24nevcairielno dot
22:12.28Gnarfoz@project libshared-media-3-0
22:12.28RepoGnarfoz: No project found that matches 'libshared-media-3-0'
22:12.45EthanCentaurai@project libsharedmedia-3-0
22:12.45RepoEthanCentaurai: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libsharedmedia-3-0/. LibSharedMedia-3.0. Game: WoW. Leader: Elkano. Updated: 35 hours ago
22:12.46nevcairielGnarfoz: its really easy, no extra dash, all lower case, dot converted to dash
22:13.01nevcairielLibFoo-1.0 ==> libfoo-1-0
22:13.04Gnarfozit's just weird that libs evade the camelcase -> dash rule
22:13.10[Ammo]yeah
22:13.12Xinhuanoh yeah nevcairiel?
22:13.14Xinhuanexplain this one
22:13.14nevcairielwe made em evade
22:13.17Xinhuan@project ace-gui-3-0-shared-media-widgets
22:13.17RepoXinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ace-gui-3-0-shared-media-widgets/. AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets. Game: WoW. Leader: yssaril. Updated: 17 days ago
22:13.18GnarfozI know.
22:13.21Arrowmasterthats because we renamed every single one
22:13.27Arrowmasterhmm
22:13.30Arrowmasterok we missed that one
22:13.32nevcairielXinhuan: thats not a lib in my book :P
22:13.39[Ammo]hahahaha
22:15.50Gnarfozit's the lib that makes both of the other libs worth existing :p
22:16.19Arrowmasterwhy the hell cant i view the message when i mark a report as resolved
22:16.20[Ammo]borlox/ag`: make fortress AceDB non-char specific but Default, it's shit currently.
22:16.25Arrowmasteri wanted to link it for the lolz
22:16.44Xinhuanyou can i think
22:16.51[Ammo]you should not resolve reports that involve your cursing ass arrowmaster
22:16.54Xinhuanjust need to xearch for it via activity log
22:17.05[Ammo]he was right, and you should be gangraped by gay gorillas
22:17.06Arrowmaster"You're still a dumbass. I'm afraid we can't fix that."
22:17.07[Ammo]:p
22:18.46Arrowmasterseems like a non issue to me since he admited to not even looking at the changelog and making a commit that would have broken dozens of addons if they had been repackaged before it was reverted
22:19.00Xinhuandidn't have to be so hostile
22:19.01Arrowmasteraka dumbass
22:19.05Xinhuanyou know it
22:19.18[Ammo]it was pretty harsh, you should save that harshness for the russians
22:19.20[Ammo]they deserve it more
22:19.26Arrowmasteranything involving jncl or hshh i will be as hostile as possible
22:19.41Gnarfozfunny how that ruRU commit to BugGrabber wasn't packaged. *cough*
22:20.01Gnarfozpackager chose to spew out HTML instead. :P
22:20.02charonwhich by the way raises another issue behind the problem that the "forbid tags" ticket tries to solve
22:20.16Arrowmasterhaha
22:20.16AiianeUnsuccessful attempt at uploading /repos/packaging/zip/wow/!BugGrabber-r136.zip 500 INTERNAL SERVER ERROR:
22:20.19charonas long as addons package trunk versions of libraries along with them, we don't get anywhere
22:20.21nevcairielGnarfoz:
22:20.22nevcairielUnsuccessful attempt at uploading /repos/packaging/zip/wow/!BugGrabber-r136.zip 500 INTERNAL SERVER ERROR:
22:20.23nevcairielhaha
22:20.29Gnarfoznevcairiel: I just said. :X
22:20.31Gnarfoz:p
22:20.33Aiiane<-- leet copypaste skills
22:20.46Xinhuanwhat internal server error? out of disk space? :d
22:20.49Gnarfoz<center><big>We're sorry, you've attempted to access a page that decided to jump off its flying mount high over shattrath and forgot to bubble. <br /> If you find this message to be in error please notify the administrators.</big></center>
22:20.54Gnarfozthat internal server error
22:21.00nevcairielcan anyone see the packager status now? o.O
22:21.06Arrowmasteryeah
22:21.09Gnarfozyes
22:21.10Arrowmasterthey have been able to for a while
22:21.12Xinhuanya nev
22:21.14Xinhuanits public
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22:21.23nevcairielanyway, ckknight, go fix that 500 with uploading addons, been happening alot recently
22:21.27Xinhuanso that any author will know what went wrong with packaging
22:21.50ckknightdid it just happen for you, nevcairiel?
22:22.04Xinhuanit just happened for some commit a few minutes ago
22:22.18ckknight*sigh*
22:22.19ckknightdamn Kaelten
22:22.22ckknightoh well
22:22.47Arrowmasteruploading via http is evil
22:23.10ckknightirrelevant to the current situation
22:23.10[Ammo]nfsmount and copy is clearly better :)
22:23.13charonckknight: this has happened at least three times since wednesday or so
22:23.28ckknightcharon: yea, it's cause Kaelten keeps fucking with things
22:23.31charonwe just weren't able to figure out wth it was because by the time we saw it, it had scrolled away most of the output
22:23.47Xinhuanlog it?
22:24.23Aiianeckknight: it should be pointed out that kaelten is not the only one that likes to 'fuck with things', so to speak :P
22:24.40nevcairielthere is a full python log of it
22:24.41ckknightXinhuan: yea, we get emails
22:24.59ckknightAiiane: yea, but the issue that we're currently talking about has been Kaelten's fingerprint dealy lately
22:27.38ckknightI'm fixing it now, btw
22:27.42ckknightbut it's not fixed yet
22:29.41Xinhuanso, i haven't been following cartographer3 much, is there some _waypoints version that only works on cart3?
22:30.20Arrowmasterit has a builtin waypoints module i think
22:30.46Xinhuan-.-
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22:32.19selckinwould a dvdrom drive from 2003 be able to read dual layer?
22:32.43ckknightXinhuan: why?
22:33.10[SW]DodgeAdirelle: ping, fix your Readme.html !
22:33.11Xinhuanhmm, a routes user asked about why it didn't work with cartographer_waypoints
22:33.19Xinhuanturns out he was using cart3
22:33.30ckknightoh, I have a generic syntax call for both cart2 and cart3
22:33.36ckknightI think I may have documented it...
22:33.50Adirelle[SW]Dodge: ACK
22:34.02[SW]DodgeAdirelle:  :>
22:34.03Arrowmasterthis is why cartographer2 needs to fucking die, people cant tell the difference or dont mention which they are using when talking about them
22:34.34elite3vilAdirelle: You might wanna have that checked out, iirc ACK is only a correct reply to SYN... not ping. =P
22:34.49Adirelle[SW]Dodge: er... there shouldn't be any readme.html... could you try to reinstall ?
22:35.04Adirelleelite3vil: ACK
22:35.17NeoTronI can see it now: "Wow NGE: In an effort to make the game more accessible, we've decided to simplify the confusing class system. We now have three classes: Tank, Heal and Damage. Also buffs have shown to be time consuming and confusing, so we consolidated them into the 'Buff Enough' ability. All three classes can self apply this buff."
22:35.34NeoTron</end If SOE owned World of Warcraft>
22:35.37[SW]DodgeAdirelle: ok was an old one :>
22:35.49ckknightXinhuan: okay, sadly, I don't appear to have docs (or I misplaced them)
22:36.05ckknightXinhuan: but here's the API: SetWaypoint(continentID, zoneID, x, y, text, metadata) or SetWaypoint(zone, x, y, text, metadata)
22:36.28Xinhuanwhat about callbacks?
22:36.55ckknightwhere zone is the zone texture, x and y are between [0, 1], text is string or nil, metadata is anything you want
22:37.00Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1010 RecipeDB (11 files in 1 directory):
22:37.00RepoReran dataminer with a bug fix, should have skill levels correct now.
22:37.01ckknightcallbacks?
22:37.11ckknightthere's also GetWaypoint(), which returns the metadata that was last set
22:37.14Xinhuanon reaching a waypoint, there is a callback
22:37.14ckknightand ClearWaypoint()
22:37.20Xinhuanor message being sent
22:37.23Arrowmasterthis is the guy who made LibSharedMedia-2.0, who fucking needs callbacks
22:37.40ckknightno, there isn't, I'm not even sure I handle that, hang on
22:37.52ckknightArrowmaster: settle down, you
22:37.57Arrowmasterhaha
22:38.43ckknightXinhuan: no, there's no callback, it just calls Cartographer3_Waypoints.ClearWaypoint() once you get within 5 yards of your destination
22:39.05ckknightyou could hook that if you so desired.
22:39.22Xinhuanoh, not really usable then, since the purpose of the callback is so that i can queue the next waypoint in
22:39.25Xinhuanto form a route
22:40.19Xinhuancart2 send a message on both rock and ace2, tomtom provided a optional callback parameter
22:41.20AntiarcXuerian: Glad you like it :D
22:42.02Repo10fu-bar_dominos-fu: 03LaoTseu 04v1.2-Release * r43 : Fubar_DominosFu:
22:42.02Repo-
22:42.45Arrowmasterawesome commit message
22:43.24Arrowmasternow why again did you not kill all tsvn:logtemplate properties during the merge even though you randomly killed other properties?
22:44.27fewynhttp://google.com/robots.txt read the second line
22:44.40ckknightlol
22:44.45nevcairielheh
22:44.54doom0rlmfao
22:44.56Xuerianhahaha
22:45.18Pneumatus404 :<
22:45.24XuerianIndeed
22:45.30XuerianShould've completed the joke :p
22:45.37fewynstill funny
22:46.49fewynsomeone write me a list of must have addons
22:47.16XinhuanYou must have Blizzard_CombatLog
22:47.30Arrowmasterok, only going to type these out once make sure you get them all
22:47.42Arrowmasteryou get all that?
22:47.46fewynYep!
22:47.55fewynwiped both hdds yesterday
22:48.06NeoTronon purpose?
22:48.12fewynyes
22:48.28fewyn680gb wiped clean
22:48.35fewynmbr and everything
22:48.37NeoTronseems... like a lot of work. why?
22:48.47fewynI somehow got a keylogger and no idea how I got it
22:49.01Xinhuanyou could have saved most of that fewyn
22:49.06KriLL3why didn't you just run S&D?
22:49.07Jaxon^^
22:49.08fewynI prefered not to
22:49.12JaxonNot the S7D thing.
22:49.13Xinhuandata, videos, mp3s, etc can't be be infected
22:49.18fewynit kept coming back Krames
22:49.18Fisker-anyone know if you can summon the dukes (the level 60 5-man group elites
22:49.20Fisker-)
22:49.21fewynKriLL3
22:49.22Fisker-summon = solo :P
22:49.32fewynso i found it easier just to wipe everything
22:49.38JaxonFisker-: yes, but I'm a hunter, so I have stuff to tank for me.
22:49.42fewynleaving nothing to chance
22:50.50GnarfozFisker- can spec ret, so that's even better
22:51.30KriLL3retri & feral are the 2 best elite soling specs imo
22:51.38KriLL3tank, dps, healing
22:51.46Stanzillayay, 80 man city raids
22:51.52Stanzillacu undercity
22:52.04NeoTronStanzilla: doesn't that mean only 1/2 the ppl get credit?
22:52.10Stanzillayes
22:52.14Stanzillawe kill the bosses twice
22:52.24Stanzillawe hop from UC to TB and back
22:52.35KriLL3I'll wait until level 80
22:52.39KriLL3too much work atm
22:53.27KriLL3why did blizz up the NPC levels on this patch and not LK release or similar?
22:53.42KriLL375 guards & 80 stealth seeing guards sucks
22:54.09fewynbecause they are noobs :(
22:54.41falconindyKriLL3: do you know of a pvp mod that'll do timers as well as handle the capture frame? I've been having trouble finding one
22:54.49KriLL3capping
22:55.02falconindycapping is awesome. i already use it, but it doesn't support moving the capture frame
22:55.13KriLL3you sure?
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22:55.18Fisker-it does
22:55.26falconindyoh shit
22:55.28Fisker-that's the only reason i use it
22:55.34falconindyerr, pardon my french... yeah, im just blind
22:55.46KriLL3other -> repoisition
22:55.49falconindygorgeous. thanks
22:56.24ZhinjioAntiarc: ping
22:56.34ZhinjioGood evening, folks.
22:56.37ZhinjioHappy Spooky day.
22:56.52elite3vilHi Falcx.
22:57.03falconindysup EE
22:57.13elite3vilwearing out my f5
22:57.18elite3vilwaiting to see if Ton ever replies.
22:57.24falconindyhe sent me mail in game
22:57.33elite3vilbut no, instead we get more Drak posts.
22:57.35elite3viloh, really?
22:57.37elite3vilwhat saying?
22:57.44falconindysaying he wanted to talk to me this weekend
22:58.08elite3viloh. good.
22:58.19falconindyyou see web's post?
22:58.30Fisker-oh lord
22:58.35Fisker-a duke has 16k hp
22:58.54Fisker-makes no sense
22:59.04Fisker-<PROTECTED>
22:59.10Fisker-unless they nerfed it after TBC
22:59.22Arrowmasterremember, 60 sucks
22:59.30Arrowmasterrag only has 1.1 mil hp
22:59.38Repo10arl: 03Pettigrow * r1011 Locals/ARLLocals-frFR.lua: frFR Update
22:59.50ArrowmasterKJ still has 10x that after the 3.0 nerf
23:00.32Fisker-Arrowmaster i've soloed harder bosses at more hp
23:00.38Fisker-well just as much actually
23:01.31Arrowmasterwell with 51 point talents now, yeah 60s are probably way more powerful than 1.x 60s
23:02.10vhaarrArrowmaster: you need to add cbh and ls to BugSack
23:02.46Arrowmasteryou never added them to bugsack????
23:02.55vhaarrwhy should I, it reqdeps on buggrabber
23:03.00Fisker-Arrowmaster that was 1.x as well
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23:03.54vhaarrArrowmaster: and you kind of broke the getting versions of addons stuff, didn't you?
23:04.00Arrowmasterno
23:04.52Arrowmasterit shouldnt have broken anything
23:04.58vhaarralright
23:06.04fewynsigh
23:06.10fewynforgot to turn CC to install alphas
23:08.45Gnarfozthat doesn't even work, yet
23:11.16fewynwell then i can yell and scream
23:11.28fewyni thought it did work tho
23:11.46Arrowmastereww why does LibDBIcon-1.0 have an extra subfolder
23:12.35Gnarfozewww why does it exist
23:12.37Gnarfoz;D
23:12.45Gnarfozfewyn: only release & beta, yet
23:12.58fewynsigh
23:13.03fewynx-perl is throwing errors at me
23:13.12fewynwhere's Zeksie?!
23:13.27Zeksiehe's here
23:13.28Gnarfozright there.
23:13.33Torhalfewyn: He's in Utopia.
23:13.36Torhal:D
23:13.40fewynyay
23:13.45GnarfozTorhal: zomg oO
23:13.50Zeksietell me what error, and I'll get it to throw it HARDER!
23:14.00TorhalGnarfoz: Bwah?
23:14.05fewyngetting tons of error and my frames are showing up grey and wierd like
23:14.14fewynhttp://ace.pastey.net/100282 one of the many errors in my bugsack
23:14.24GnarfozTorhal: utopia? zeksie? x-perl? zomg? :p
23:14.35TorhalGnarfoz: And stuff, as well.
23:14.41Gnarfozof course.
23:15.04fewynhttp://gallery.fewyn.net/d/2676-1/WoWScrnShot_103108_191426.jpg and there's a screenshot
23:15.30Zeksiemmm. ok. new install I guess. must have broke that bit
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23:15.37fewynyep
23:17.03Zeksie1 mo
23:17.40Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r227 XPerl_Options/XPerl_FrameOptions.lua: XPerl: Fix it to not f**k up with new install.
23:18.01Zeksiedrycoded, but get that one and try it
23:18.27Repo10auto-turnin: 03Swix * r77 AutoTurninGlobals.lua: added ruRU locale
23:19.37fewyngives it a try
23:19.59PrimerAre macros supposed to be saved server-side too now? Someone was telling me this was the case, but I haven't observed this
23:20.12fewynyes Primer
23:20.19fewynzomg Zeksie
23:20.19PrimerIn fact, my key binds reset when I login from another location
23:20.20fewynit works
23:20.23fewynthanks
23:20.26Primerso wtf
23:20.33fewynPrimer using a bar mod?
23:20.36Primeryes
23:20.38PrimerDominos
23:20.40fewynthat might be why
23:20.49Primerdoesn't explain the macros though
23:21.03Repo10socialist: 03eblume * r41 / (4 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 2 lines)
23:21.04RepoSocialist:
23:21.05Repo- Added 16x16 and 32x32 logo.
23:21.06Repo- Making shift to use static result elements
23:21.10Repo- MUCH better than creating new frames
23:22.00PrimerSo when curse client reports "Addon overwrites development files" does that mean it's not updating it, or that it IS overwriting the files?
23:22.44Repo10bugsack: 03Arrowmaster * r166 / (9 files in 2 directories): Fix .pkgmeta, toc, and svn properties
23:22.59Arrowmaster^^^ more fucking svk:merge properties!
23:23.05Primerhrmm, I just got a new bugsack from curse client...
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23:25.59XinhuanPrimer: macros have an additional
23:26.00Xinhuanbug
23:26.11Xinhuanif u logged on more than 1 char in a wow.exe session
23:26.19Xinhuanthe 2nd onwards doesn't get saved
23:28.04Repo10mountiful: 03Jomar * r12 Mountiful.lua: Mountiful:
23:28.05Repo- bugfixes
23:29.53Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r228 / (4 files in 2 directories): XPerl: Version bump
23:32.38Arrowmasterckknight: what do i have to pay you for a precommit hook that checks the package-as from the .pkgmeta and rejects all commits with a commit message that starts with "<package-as>:"
23:33.04ckknightum, file a ticket on the repo hooks thing
23:33.28Arrowmasterlol
23:35.36Xinhuanso me and a warlock
23:35.39Xinhuanduo-ing HHM
23:35.55Xinhuanthe voidwalker tanks, and does 17 fucking thousand (17k) TPS
23:36.07KriLL3does DM quests count towards loremaster?
23:36.35Arrowmasterdarkmoon?
23:36.55falconindydeadmines? dire maul?
23:36.56Xinhuanplease tell me that's a bug Arrowmaster
23:36.56KriLL3Dire Maul
23:37.07Stanzillayes Xinhuan
23:37.08ArrowmasterXinhuan: huh?
23:37.14Stanzillavoidwalker is bugged atm
23:37.16Arrowmasterit does?
23:37.18Arrowmasterwtf
23:37.23Xinhuanwe're 2-manning HHM, voidwalker is doing 17k TPS
23:37.28Arrowmasterwish my felguard did that much tps
23:37.29Xinhuani can barely do 2k TPS
23:37.35Stanzillayou have to specc it tho
23:37.36KriLL3HHM?
23:37.36Stanzillathen it bugs
23:37.37Xinhuanas a mage
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23:38.27Xinhuani was like wtf, 250k threat in like 15 seconds
23:38.36Arrowmasteri should respec and get my guild to let my voidwalker tank sunwell next week
23:40.25KriLL3well I doubt the voidwalker got the hp, armor, mitigation and "oh snap" stuff a proper tank has
23:40.32Stanzillaif they can heal it...
23:40.34KriLL3your healers would be taxed
23:41.01Xinhuanerr
23:41.07Xinhuanthere is a video of a Voidwalker
23:41.09Xinhuantanking brutallus
23:41.10KriLL3and tanks got higher TPS than they used to now
23:41.12Xinhuango google
23:41.32Xinhuanvoidwalker is doing 17k TPS, that's 6x higher than any warrior can do at 3k TPS
23:41.38KriLL3did they have a million healers spamheal it?
23:41.44Arrowmastera guild on my server back in 1.0 used a voidwalker to tank sulfuron once
23:42.00KriLL3TPS isn't the issue
23:42.40doom0rjust saw 3585 points
23:43.13Repo10fu-bar_emote-fu2: 03Swix * r50 FuBar_EmoteFu2.toc: last fix for ruRU
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23:45.15Xinhuan3585 points?
23:45.32KriLL3that's not over 9000
23:45.57Xinhuanare we talking about the same thing
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23:48.01kadrahildoes anyone know why you can't accept teh quest to turn in the scourgestones?
23:48.03kadrahilat the bulwark?
23:48.05kadrahili'm friendly with AD
23:48.16kadrahiland i did all the andorhal quests and the uther's tomb
23:48.39KriLL3heh their page on wowwiki
23:48.45KriLL3*check
23:48.46KriLL3wtf
23:48.46kadrahiloh crap
23:48.51Arrowmasterthose are repeatable quests
23:48.53kadrahilthere is a pre-reqw
23:48.54kadrahilfrom UC
23:49.05kadrahilthat you turn in to maher to get the scourgestone repeatable quest
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23:49.31Stanzillahttp://www.staneck.de/upload/files/63cf73-WoWScrnShot_110108_004845.jpg
23:50.01*** join/#wowace Jygga (i=Jygga@port-212-202-202-32.dynamic.qsc.de)
23:50.49Jyggacan somebody tell me where exactly to go to get to tenris? i was there killing him but i was rather brainafk so i forgot to grab the questitem and now there is respawn and ... i dont know where to spirit walk ^^
23:51.07Jyggawe didnt kill moroes ...
23:51.14Gnarfozabove attumen.
23:51.21KriLL3Jygga: the door will be closed
23:51.21Gnarfozalso, the door to his room closes ^^
23:51.23Jyggaim standing on the steps up from attumen
23:51.27kadrahiloh wait
23:51.37KriLL3ask a GM for help, they can port you through the door
23:51.38kadrahilthe turn in quests also start from duke nicholas zverenhoff at light's hope
23:51.46doom0rgo up the steps, turn left
23:51.49doom0rclear to kitchen
23:51.51doom0ropen the door
23:51.52doom0rpew pew
23:52.05nevcairielArrowmaster: you broke bugsack
23:52.14Arrowmasterhow
23:52.23Jyggahmk i was running straight from stairs ran half way around that circle and no door screaming ^^
23:52.27Jyggathanks ill try
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23:52.49nevcairielArrowmaster: http://ace.pastey.net/100285
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23:53.41Arrowmasterfuck
23:56.19nevcairielit seems like you have some kind of circular dependency, BugSack needs BugGrabber (and its callback thingy), but BugGrabber needs BugSack to load to get CBH :P
23:56.45Jyggacan somebody mark me his location on a wowhead map?
23:57.06nevcairielto who?
23:57.55Jyggatenris mirkblood -.-
23:58.06Jyggais there a karazhan map on wowhead? ^^
23:58.10Jyggadamn ...
23:58.25nevcairielnop
23:58.29nevcairielbut its really easy
23:58.34elite3vilIs that the new boss in KZ?
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23:59.20nevcairielyou go through attumens room, up the stairs, through the first room, the second already has the door on the right, on the left you can watch down to attumen room again
23:59.51elite3vilGo to Moroes' room, go through the door to the kitchen, walk through the kitchen (just go straight) and take a left when you hit the railing above attumen's room and the door will be on your left.

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