IRC log for #wowace on 20081027

00:00.16Repo10libbars-1-0: 03Antiarc * r9 LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua:
00:00.16RepoRevert anchor sizing to fix anchoring/growth problems, add default icons/textures for bars, call SetValue on bar init.
00:00.26selckin16/8 :(
00:07.45*** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://www.wowace.com/announcements/news-flash-incoming-improvements-to-the-curse-client/ | New .15 Mac Build! http://static.curseforge.net/client/Curse%20Client%20Setup%202.0.0.15.dmg || CC Window Test Build 2.0.1.0.RC1 http://tinyurl.com/5l6cfz | Username changes: http://www.wowace.com/request-name-change/
00:09.01kenlyrichot
00:09.07syerenShadowed: ping.
00:09.14Shadowedsyeren: mmm?
00:09.14kenlyricmake a list of all the stuff you'll take away from us when it leaves beta :(
00:10.43syerenI disabled cast bars but they still appear :<
00:11.21syerenOn your Arena Frames.
00:11.58Shadowedstupid defaults
00:12.05Shadowedtype /script SSAF.db.profile.showCC = false
00:12.07ShadowedI'll fix it later
00:13.28Repo10libdogtag-unit-3-0: 03ckknight * r158 Categories (3 files in 1 directory): remove references to WotLK.
00:13.29Reporemove MobHealth references and fix up the Health module a bit.
00:14.08Repo10libdogtag-3-0: 03ckknight * r208 Events.lua: Small bugfix
00:15.21Kaeltenholy shit ckknight is commiting to his addons?
00:15.24Kaeltenand I have on the same day?
00:15.25ckknightzomg!
00:15.31Kaelten*looks around for the end of the world*
00:15.35ckknightKaelten: I also fixed Cart3 today
00:15.46Kaeltenlol nice
00:15.54KaeltenI put half a dozen options into onebag3
00:15.59ckknightinstance maps and Yatlas-style textures
00:16.13ckknightfunny enough, you can see all of Northrend's textures now :-P
00:16.17Kaeltenlol
00:16.18Kaeltennice
00:16.39dieckhm. I just wanted to go to bed. But maybe I'm just going to download cart3 :)
00:17.10ckknightlol
00:17.29Arrowmasterfucking head wont stop whispering me
00:18.07ckknightOoh, I like it when people comment in a nice way rather than a mean way
00:18.13ckknightwe should require people on curse to take prozac.
00:18.17ckknightbefore commenting
00:19.02Repo10skinner: 03Jncl 07master * b1.9056.7-2-gbd1c361 / (16 files in 3 directories): [+2 commits]
00:19.03Repobd1c361: Skinner: Updated BetterInbox & MacroBank skins
00:19.03Repoac93c94: Skinner: Bugfix for ReadyFrame not being skinned
00:20.03Adirelleckknight: prozac doesn't prevent people to be mean, believe me
00:20.09ckknightaw :-(
00:20.16ckknightheroin, then?
00:20.35Adirellethey stay just mean but they don't care anymore
00:20.40Kaeltenckknight: I want to specify a messege they have to type in backwards before they can ask me when onebank is coming
00:20.51ckknightlol
00:21.42selckinhttp://xkcd.com/481/
00:22.31diecknice work ckknight
00:22.37ckknight:-)
00:23.07dieckyou could add a "close menu" to the add note / set waypoint menu. I'm often stuck with that, until I remember scrolling the map removes it :)
00:23.08ckknightoh, btw, Kaelten
00:23.16Kaeltensup
00:23.22ckknightI was wondering when OneBank was going to come
00:23.29TorhalAdirelle: Why is it that people are so resistant to change that when it comes, they take it as a personal offense? :D
00:23.34ckknightdieck: hrm.
00:23.44AdirelleTorhal: huh ? what?
00:23.46dieckckknight: may be a personal problem of mine ;)
00:23.59TorhalAdirelle: The Forum post about tagging :)
00:24.03Adirelleoh
00:24.08*** kick/#wowace [ckknight!n=Kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten] by Kaelten (type I will not flame your coworks backwards)
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00:24.36ckknightskrowoc ruoy emalf ton lliw I
00:24.49Kaelten:P
00:24.54Adirellehrm
00:25.00AdirelleI'm pretty sure he cheated
00:25.03Kaeltenlmao
00:25.11Torhalckknight: When he booted you, he added "2600 times"
00:25.23Adirellein less than 5 minutes
00:25.38Adirelleand without the control keys
00:25.42Adirelleso you cannot copy/paste
00:25.44ckknightsʞɹoʍoɔ ɹnoʎ ǝɯɐ1ɟ ʇou 11ıʍ ı
00:25.48TorhalHaha
00:26.01Kaeltendamn
00:26.06Adirellekicks x-chat for not displayed utf8 correctly
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00:26.07KaeltenI guess he can ask me now :(
00:26.13ckknightlol.
00:26.18ckknightI don't care, not like I play WoW
00:26.35ckknightbtw, Kaelten, http://tobiastom.name/linkinus/flip.scpt
00:26.50Kaeltenlol
00:26.53Kaeltencheater!
00:26.57ckknightlol
00:27.05ckknightz1n1 'ɹǝʇɐǝɥɔ ɐ s'ɯoɯ ɹn
00:27.36AdirelleI KNEW IT !
00:27.38ckknightoh well, I've had my fun
00:27.51ckknightbtw, Adirelle, I didn't cheat the first time
00:28.03Adirellewhat you said :)
00:28.48Adirellesome time ago I pasted some text in a wiki of some kind, and it asked me to type all URL host backwards
00:28.57Adirellethat was annoying as hell
00:29.36Adirellelike 6 tries to post a page
00:31.17ckknightyea, really annoying
00:31.22ckknightI think pastey.net does that
00:31.52Adirelleanyway, gotta sleep, g'night folk
00:34.03Repo10skinner: 03Jncl 07master * b1.9056.7-3-gcd00b9c / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Skinner: Fix library defs
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00:38.59Kaeltenlmao this episode of alantis is awesome
00:39.34Repo10cowtip: 03ckknight * r35 / (6 files in 6 directories): get the mouseover unit in a standard way between modules.
00:39.35RepoTrack which unit is the mouseover unit, so that if it changes without SetUnit being called, the fade module will know that it should properly hide things.
00:39.44ckknightStanzilla: ^---
00:40.00Stanzillaw00t
00:41.17Fisker-NO Kaelten
00:41.19Fisker-bad boy
00:41.23Kaeltenhuh?
00:41.26Fisker-clip shows are NOT awesome
00:41.33Kaeltenclip shows?
00:41.44Fisker-If you are referring to the newest atlantis episode :P
00:41.54Kaeltenoh no
00:41.57KaeltenI'm in season 3
00:42.05Kaelten"Tao of Rodney"
00:42.23Kaeltenthe one where he starts to evolve and can read minds etc
00:42.26ckknightdid they rip off the Tao of Steve in that one?
00:42.26Kaeltenit's been a blast
00:42.30ckknight:-P
00:42.39Kaeltendon't know actually
00:42.56Kaeltenhe starts to evolve towards acesnsion, gains all kinda super powers.
00:43.10ckknightI want super powers :-(
00:43.14ckknightI'd totally abuse them, though
00:43.19ckknightwhich is probably why I don't have em
00:43.21ckknightsighs
00:43.26Kaeltenlol
00:43.33Kaeltendefinately go grab this episode it's awesome
00:43.49ckknightnah, if I were to start, I'd start from the beginning
00:44.04ckknightand I'm not sure if I'm ready for that level of commitment
00:44.08Kaeltenthat's what I've been doin
00:44.19Kaeltenit's been better than I hoped
00:45.50ckknightshould I move Cartographer3 to wowace?
00:46.04Kaelten<PROTECTED>
00:46.31ckknightonly real reason it was on curseforge instead of wowace was for git support in the first place :-P
00:46.54ckknightblah, it's all salmony
00:47.27ckknightKaelten: did you ever get your test server set up?
00:47.38Kaeltennope
00:47.47KaeltenI spent most of yesterday working on that announcement
00:47.50ckknightah
00:48.01Kaeltenand today I went to walmart
00:48.07ckknightI went to walmart today, too
00:48.13ckknightthe cashier I had was far too friendly
00:48.44ckknightended up talking about the perfect way to destroy their giant display of soda
00:48.50ckknightthe one that looks like a skull
00:49.05Kaeltenlol
00:49.12ckknightI figure it could be destoyed by removing only two boxes
00:49.33ckknightthat'd disrupt the structural integrity enough to cause an avalanche
00:49.39Kaeltenprobably
00:49.45Kaeltenit was pretty impressive though
00:51.04Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_102608_174800.jpg
00:51.05Antiarc<_<
00:51.15AntiarcMy texture browser is inspiring me to do neat things with my UI
00:51.35AntiarcThe rings spin around the minimap and stuff
00:51.42AntiarcThe outer counterclock, the inner clockwise
00:52.05ckknightyea, apparently the pepsi people came in and did it, not the walmart people
00:52.13KaeltenAntiarc that looks spiffy.
00:52.21Kaeltenckknight: heh, not suprising.
00:52.26Repo10skinner: 03Jncl 04b1.9056.8 * ccb587d /: [new tag] Tagging as b1.9056.8
00:52.27AntiarcI'm gonna package up a little mod for it I think
00:52.29ckknightAntiarc: I do that with Chinchilla
00:52.31AntiarcOffer some presets
00:52.41ckknightif you set the minimap to rotate
00:52.42Antiarcckknight: Oh? I've used simpleMinimap for ages
00:52.44KaeltenAntiarc :)
00:52.48ckknighttry Chinchilla
00:52.51ckknightyou might like it
00:52.59ckknightI should really move it away from Rock someday
00:53.03ckknightmaybe that day is today
00:53.14AntiarcI was thinking of writing a minimap mod
00:53.17Fisker-trips ckknight into lava
00:53.19AntiarcWith a focus on visual spiffyness
00:53.22Fisker-guess not
00:53.25ckknighto noes, not teh lava
00:53.42ckknightAntiarc: try Chinchilla, put on the Chinchilla texture, set it to round, and set the minimap to rotate
00:53.50Antiarcwell
00:53.52ckknightthen spin and watch the little Chinchilla run around the minimap
00:53.54ckknightwhee!
00:53.55AntiarcI mean the rings spin onupdate
00:54.06ckknighthilarity ensues.
00:54.10AntiarcSo you get this slow smooth animation that eats CPU cycles and looks pretty
00:54.17ckknightyea
00:54.27ckknightwhat you should do is have two rings that spin against each other
00:54.32Antiarcthey do
00:54.35ckknightooh
00:54.58Antiarchttp://pastey.net/99810
00:55.00AntiarcThat's it
00:55.06Arrowmasterso yeah you know the reports of the doors to the old officer quarters in org/if being shut
00:55.07KaeltenAntiarc geif geif mod! :P
00:55.11Arrowmasteryeah totally zombies doing it
00:55.12AntiarcThe inner ring spins at 4x the rotational velocity of the outer
00:55.17AntiarcYou all can grab that pastey if you want
00:55.24AntiarcBut I'm gonna put a nice Ace3 config on it
00:55.27AntiarcAnd make it all sexytime
00:55.33AntiarcThen I'll commit it tonight
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00:56.32AntiarcSeriously though
00:56.36AntiarcYou should all get my texbrowser
00:56.40AntiarcAnd spend some time playing with it
00:56.47Zeksiename?
00:56.50AntiarcLots of great assets in there that have been largely ignored for 4 years :P
00:56.52AntiarcTexBrowser :P
00:56.56Repo10libdogtag-unit-3-0: 03ckknight * r159 Categories/Health.lua: Fix IsMaxHP
00:56.58Zeksieno really... name?
00:57.00Zeksie:)
00:57.01Antiarchttp://www.wowace.com/projects/texbrowser/
00:57.54Zeksiethx ;)
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01:00.43ckknight<PROTECTED>
01:00.57ckknightthat's probably like, a dollar, right?
01:01.46AntiarcI'm thinking
01:01.50AntiarcI could use one of those textures
01:01.52ckknightah, 11 bucks
01:01.53AntiarcAnd a custom WAV
01:01.53Stanzilla100.00 Swedish kronor = 12.6167 U.S. dollars
01:02.05AntiarcAnd make a mod that dials the stargate when a mage casts a portal spell  >_>
01:02.11Stanzillaomg
01:04.01Stanzilla01:53:03 ∙ ckknight: I should really move it away from Rock someday < cowtip first, you already have the files open! :P
01:04.12ckknightugh
01:04.16ckknightthey're both gonna be bitches
01:04.24ckknightand I don't want to use Ace3, I hate the way things are named there
01:04.26ckknightshudders
01:04.34ckknightah, don't think that day is today
01:05.18Stanzillahehe
01:05.55Stanzillausing ace3 would be the easy way tho :P
01:06.25ckknightyea, but too many things about it irk me
01:06.45AntiarcAce3 is fine, lern2play >_>
01:07.05ckknightsorry, Antiarc
01:07.08ckknightthe only way to win is not to play
01:07.20Antiarchow about a nice game of chess?
01:12.20Fisker-how about a nice game of cold war?
01:16.14Zeksiecould have put more quests with this Apocathary guy in Shattrath.. bit disappointing, although the conversation with the brains on the way is quite funny.
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01:19.58AntiarcI wish there was a way to use texture masking in WoW
01:20.47Zeksievote
01:20.59Zeksieand some more choices to BLEND/ADD/MOD
01:21.17Antiarcwell, blend/add/mod correspond to mathematical operations >_>
01:21.52Zeksieyeh, i know. but the engine must be able to do other stuff already. not a huge leap to extend that to the lua interface
01:21.59Antiarcyeah
01:23.24Zeksieand what i wouldn't give for some line drawing funcs at times..
01:24.01Zeksiea virtual texture with a table of points or something would be fine
01:25.35RaydenUniso the EPL quests
01:25.35RaydenUni"check your map for a place under attack" does this work if you have cartographer?
01:25.35RaydenUnimy map shows nothing
01:25.49Zeksiei saw nothing too
01:27.56AntiarcWorks with Mapster
01:27.57AntiarcFWIW
01:29.59Repo10all-played-laotseu: 03LaoTseu * r152 / (7 files in 1 directory): AllPlayed:
01:29.59Repo- New tooltip for Show XP Progress as suggested by HunterZ
01:30.34Zeksiemapster's too minimalist for me.
01:31.26Stanzillawhat's missing?
01:32.02Zeksiei don't wanna have ot install 10 different mods to do what cartographer does
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01:32.30AntiarcAh, an emacs user
01:32.32Zeksiei don't use all of cart, but enough of it to miss it when it's not there
01:32.33Antiarc*runs*
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01:35.40chipermuahaha, my guild is forming an all zombie raid
01:36.05chiperwe're gonna all get infected, portal to theramore, and then stomp our way through barrens and hit org
01:36.24selckincan take ogrimmar portal as a zombie
01:36.36quiescensI'm sure orgrimmar will already be mostly zombies
01:37.36stew_ayou know theres a Feat of Strength to convert 100 people to zombies without dying apparently
01:37.38chiperreally?
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01:38.12selckinyes
01:39.37Zeksiewtf..
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01:41.15Repo10incubator: 03durcyn * r182 Incubator.toc: Works in 3.0, bump toc for packaging
01:41.36Zeksiepeople only?
01:41.41Repo10incubator: 03durcyn 043.0.2-release * r183 : Tagging as 3.0.2-release.
01:43.22Hell-Razorgrr tic is full once AGAIN fuckni 800 line wait
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01:48.46doom0rwts lag
01:50.44vithos_stew_a: any sort of proof of that before i start wasting tons of time?
01:51.17Megalonsteino: sure you don't mean the cot4 achievement?
01:51.21Megalonhttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?achievement=1872
01:51.25Megalonbut that's no feast
01:52.29Castigomegalon those ones i suppose are the one
01:52.33Castigostraight before the baron
01:52.57Castigothe "omfg we are so dead" aoe group once u killed all the stitches abominations
01:53.33MegalonCastigo: nope, it's cot: culling of stratholme, there are zombies which respawn all over the place, and you get a bar which fills up, and resets every minute
01:54.34doom0rIt's too bad that achievement wasn't gainable in Shat.
01:55.13doom0ranyone elses invasion seem to have stopped?
01:55.52Megalondoom0r: still having skulls on the map, but the respawn rate of necropoli is bugged, read a bluepost that they wanna hotfix it tonight within a restart
01:56.08doom0rthanks, was wondering why they stopped appearing here
01:56.29Megalonhttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/11829526596-please-increase-necropolis-spawn-rates.html
01:56.31Megalonthere it is
01:56.42doom0rcheers
01:56.51Megalonon hour server it's like 4-5hours, and they get killed in like minutes
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02:06.38RaydenUniboring
02:06.38RaydenUnimy guild did the vampire boss without me and now they are doing HHM
02:06.39RaydenUniugh
02:07.23sacarascvampire boss being the new guy in Karazhan? he was way too easy and boring
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02:09.59kaidenCan anyone suggest a good buff management addon (like bollo) that supports buttonfacade
02:11.34laegmacros are fun
02:16.19Xinhuanhey Ackis
02:16.24Repo10cowtip: 03Stanzilla * r36 CowTip.toc: add DogTag libs to OptDeps
02:21.41Repo10mounted: 03yssaril 07master * v1.1.11-2-gb5f487a / (13 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
02:21.43Repob5f487a: added tooltip to the macro text box so that you can read the tags again :)
02:21.43Repoafa4207: splitting out shaman and druid options so that we can clear them if we are not one of them :)
02:21.50Repo10mounted: 03yssaril 041.2.2b * 40bc5cd /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.2.2b
02:22.47Repo10pit-bull: 03Stanzilla * r1767 PitBull.toc: add DogTag libs to OptDeps
02:29.57AntiarcWell, KJ down
02:30.00AntiarcRide the nerf wave! :V
02:30.14quiescensmoo
02:32.49StanzillaAntiarc: loots?
02:32.54Antiarcall caster crap
02:33.20Stanzilla^^
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02:37.31Repo10statlogiclib: 03Whitetooth * r194 StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua:
02:37.31Repo- Paladin: Added Talent: Redoubt - Increases your block value by 10%/20%/30%
02:38.09doom0rhmmm, arl + lsw on default frame == crap
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02:38.34aestilanyone in here play freeciv?
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02:49.55Repo10statlogiclib: 03Whitetooth * r195 StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: - Shaman: Updated Talent: Mental Quickness - Moved to 2,21
02:56.41XinhuanAntiarc: we gave a KJ legendary bow to another guild, cos we didn't have a hunter lol
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03:02.49selckinrogue loot
03:04.28break19.... wonder how many new players bliz is missing out on because of the damn zombies.. "Free trial? sounds good. Ug, I died as soon as I logged in? wtf? *delete*"
03:04.37Repo10statlogiclib: 03Whitetooth * r196 StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: - deDE update: Added "Tempowertung" Haste Gem support
03:04.58selckinless then they lose from ppl qqing
03:05.57break19honestly.. if I wanted to worry about being killed while browsing the AH, I would have rolled on a pvp server.. I didnt.
03:06.33Arrowmasterthats something people on pvp servers normally dont even worry about
03:06.40Kaeltenbreak19: :P
03:07.42break19it sucks ass tho.. my wife cant even level her baby shammy, and I cant level my baby druid...
03:08.13break19it's not so bad for our 70s, we can have a little fun before we die, but the lowbies just get 1 shot
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03:09.15Kaeltenbreak19: go read my reply to your forum post
03:09.31Bluspacecowhi hi hi
03:09.34quiescenssort of cuts both ways
03:09.39break19I did..
03:09.50AntiarcI think the point of this whole thing is to make it bad enough that we really react badly to the plague
03:09.54Kaeltenlol
03:09.55AntiarcIt's incentive to go beat up Arthas
03:10.04AntiarcPlus, Putress just showed up in Shatt
03:10.12AntiarcSo I suspect a temp cure or immunization is incoming
03:11.17quiescensunless.. he's secretly involved
03:13.54quiescensanyway, most previous events have come under fire as being something that could be completely ignored
03:14.30AntiarcYup
03:14.37Bluspacecowrofl
03:14.38AntiarcThis one is really forcing people to change the way they play
03:14.40pastamancerno ignoring this
03:14.42AntiarcWhich I think is good if it's short-term
03:14.43Bluspacecow<----- still @ work
03:14.46Bluspacecow:(
03:15.32Bluspacecowmeh
03:16.39Bluspacecowits only forcing people to take along some kind of disease cleansing ability when doing dailies
03:16.56pastamancerthe head that putress has you take to undercity confirms that the plague is caused by the lich king
03:17.18Bluspacecowmmmmmmmmm head
03:17.21Bluspacecowwait
03:17.28Bluspacecowwrong kind of head :D
03:17.31quiescenson balance I'd say they probably should have added a little bit of protection to lowbies
03:17.45pastamancerit would have been nice if all zombies had the same stats
03:17.46Bluspacecowthat where us higher levels must step in
03:17.56pastamancerso a level 1 who gets zombied can actually have some fun as a zombie
03:17.59Bluspacecowunite against the threat of the hodre
03:18.01pastamancerrather than getting one-shot by guards
03:18.04quiescensor that
03:18.11Bluspacecowit doesnt scale ?
03:18.21quiescensit scales with the player's level
03:18.21Bluspacecowmy 70 zombies has 6665 armor
03:18.31quiescensnono, we're saying it shouldn't scale
03:18.46quiescensso that level 1 players have stats high enough to survive guards
03:18.50pastamanceryeah, make all zombies level 70
03:19.00quiescenseither or
03:19.08selckinthat would make thigns worse in newbie zones
03:19.32Bluspacecowso make it so all zombies have the same stats ?
03:19.35quiescenseither lowbies should have had more defense or they should be able to participate rather than get oneshotted by everything
03:20.01Antiarchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubQKbE5fNUs
03:22.19laegblizz should let developers of addons know about code before patches so they can start to make their mods compatible
03:22.31Antiarctotally
03:22.56quiescensmaybe if there was some way to test things before patches came out
03:23.04Bluspacecow....
03:23.10quiescensin an environment similar to the actual game
03:23.10Bluspacecowlolz
03:23.11BluspacecowLaeg i thought they did
03:23.26Bluspacecowtheres an upcoming code changes thread in the UI/macros forum
03:23.42StanzillaAntiarc: omg a girl talking!
03:23.48pastamancerwait, I thought quiescens was joking
03:23.49Bluspacecow:(
03:23.54Bluspacecowim not a girl :(
03:24.00AntiarcThat's one of our shamans
03:24.04AntiarcShe's awesome
03:24.10quiescensabout which?
03:24.23Bluspacecowhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202271194&sid=1
03:24.23laegBluspacecow: ahh ok
03:24.24pastamancerboth
03:24.33Bluspacecowhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043170854&sid=1
03:24.36Bluspacecowsee
03:25.10pastamancerbecause well... the ptr and the ui forum
03:25.12BluspacecowLaeg you remember that rash of really bad tooltip errors with addons in 2.4 ?
03:25.14quiescensshrugs, I think the event is interesting
03:25.18quiescensfrom my perspective
03:25.25Bluspacecowit was in the changes thread
03:25.30Bluspacecow2 months before 2.4 hit
03:25.49quiescensbut I can understand that it would be frustrating if someone was trying to level
03:25.51AntiarcWhat, laeg was serious?
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03:28.52Antiarclol
03:28.54AntiarcGruul in 2 growths
03:28.59Bluspacecowsounds like he was uninformed
03:29.01sacarasclol
03:29.58tjsbah, gruul in 2 growths is easy with the dps buffs, want to do something harder? test your tank and healers, try for gruuls in 30 growths ;D
03:30.21tjsrumor has it at 30 it resets back to 1
03:30.25tjso.O
03:32.35Bluspacecowbut seriously laeg some authors dont have much ime to code or play much less check forums like a monkey on crack as i do
03:32.41Bluspacecow*time
03:33.28quiescensI imagine some of them would like to play the game rather than develop on a test realm where things change every 13 seconds
03:35.16Torhalquiescens: I thought we narowed it down to 12.5 seconds.
03:35.23Torhalnarrowed*
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03:40.47Bluspacecownah it got nerfed to 14 :(
03:41.05TorhalFigures.
03:41.35TorhalBlort. Bedtime.
03:42.09doom0rbanzai alert is missing options
03:43.09Arrowmaster*sigh*
03:43.21Arrowmaster[2008/10/26 23:41:49-3694-x1]: WTF\Account\<ACCOUNTNAME>\SavedVariables\QuestHelper.lua:22541: unexpected symbol near ']':
03:43.46doom0rquest helper?
03:43.48Bluspacecowrofl
03:43.51doom0rpssh
03:43.52Bluspacecowuse Carbonite :D
03:43.59doom0ri AM quest helper
03:44.16Arrowmasterwtf
03:44.22doom0rwhere's this? there how do i do this? like that
03:44.25Arrowmasterit fucking broke my saved vars for other addons
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03:44.43pastamancerI didn't think it was possible to break saved vars
03:44.55Arrowmasterwell tinytip is back at defaults now
03:45.21Arrowmasterand that loads after questhelper
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03:46.16Bluspacecowi hate QH as for me it seems to FORCE you where to go and what to do
03:46.29Mytosany titans grip warriors in here, id like to ask some advice on enchants
03:47.05doom0rno, but i have advice
03:47.07doom0rdon't get spellpower
03:47.17Mytosget healing, yah i know lol
03:47.18Bluspacecowor mana per 5
03:47.27doom0r^!
03:47.47Bluspacecowwhy healing guys ? does it effect bandages ?
03:48.12Mytosnah, i wanted to know if executioner/mh, and mongoose/oh was still the best enchants with titans grip, or if double mongoose would be better
03:48.18quiescensspellpower is fine, they changed it all remember
03:48.57Mytosnah, the enchant for +81healing before patch nets you 43 spellpower
03:49.20doom0rwe had a pally that was a total nub, bought a mage, joined a raid last minute...... we told him to fire ward the raid. OMG, he spent at least 5 solid mins trying to figure out why he couldn't
03:50.38doom0ri'm not sure the numbers there Mytos, but that kind of question usually to be properly answered involves swing timer calc and other things
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03:51.50Mytosim thinking itll be double mongoose since the speed boost and the agi boost will equate to more hits and higher crit chance, were the armor pen of executioner would take so long to stack the dps increase seems negligable
03:53.00quiescensmiss rate shouldn't have changed the calculations
03:54.16quiescensmongoose will be better in general unless you're already geared with a fair amount of armour ignore and the target is debuffed with various armour debuffs
03:54.19Mytosnah not the miss rate, just hte fact that you hit slow with titans grip and mongoose gives a speed boost to melee, so ill hit more often when its up
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03:55.20tjsdoes anyone know of any pure LUA encryption libraries
03:55.22tjs?
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03:59.13pastamancertealib is around somewhere, as is a rsa implementation
03:59.35tjspastamancer: cheers, I'll check it out
04:00.43pastamancertea is probably your best choice since the rsa implementation doesn't do key generation
04:01.03pastamancerI think it's on wowi
04:02.20Arrowmasterits on oldsvn.wowace.com for sure
04:02.26Arrowmasteralong with md5lib
04:02.39Arrowmasterand aeslib i think
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04:04.00pastamancerthat reminds me... I've been meaning to play around with diffie-helman in lua... I should check out their bignum implementations
04:07.48Bluspacecow@project tea-lib
04:07.49RepoBluspacecow: No project found that matches 'tea-lib'
04:07.56Bluspacecow:(
04:08.04Bluspacecowthat thingy never works for me :(
04:10.20tjsargh
04:10.33tjsMODDERS! please licence your work :/
04:10.37Mikkwhy
04:11.12tjswell, it lets people know if/when/where they can use it
04:11.13ZhinjioGood evening, folks.
04:11.24pastamancertealib not licensed?
04:11.29tjsnope
04:11.31break19as far as my stuff goes: public domain unless stated otherwise
04:11.34tjsnot that I can see
04:11.39Arrowmaster@project tealib
04:11.40RepoArrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/tealib/. TEALib. Game: WoW. Status: Out of date. Imported from wowace SVN project TEALib. Leader: wowaceSVN. Updated: 17 days ago
04:11.53Mikkbreak19: you kinda need to put that in the files tbh
04:12.17break19mikk, its on the curse project ipage.
04:12.26Mikkor there
04:12.40Mikkanyway, my point is "not just saying it on irc" =)
04:12.54chiperis there a pvp timer module for pitbull yet?
04:12.59Mikkas for my own addons, i'm quiet comfortable having them nonlicensed
04:13.02Mikklibs are another matter
04:13.03break19all of my out of date addons.. in otherwords, all my addons. lol
04:13.06Yssarilanyway to have the game tooltip follow the curser but not to the top middle of it like ANCHOR_CURSOR does?
04:13.20MikkYssaril: apply an offset?
04:13.38YssarilMikk: dosn't apply to ANCHOR_CURSOR
04:13.54tjshm
04:13.55MikkThat's funny. All the tooltip addons do it.
04:14.24tjsis there a way to have the entire contents of a frame scale as the frame is resized?
04:14.39break19lessee.. one of em is useless now, all it did was put LMH4 stuff on the default bliz unit frames.. 2 of them are fubar plugins, and I use broker stuff now. and dont use the two apps for which I made the plugins for anymore anyway.. and the third? well.. I havent gotten around to it yet.
04:14.55pastamancertjs: perhaps an OnUpdate
04:15.01Mikkas in someone drags its corner? not automatically... but you could have an onsize that changes the scale or something
04:15.02break19.. basically because it's useful for mutilate-spec rogues.. and mine's subtelty now... heh
04:15.19Mikkand what you would want THEN is a fake drag, not a normal sizing one
04:15.27Mikkbecause scaling + sizing = funny
04:15.34tjs*nods*
04:15.48tjsty
04:16.12YssarilMikk: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/GameTooltip/SetOwner says the same thing and i just tried it in wow dint have any effect it seamed
04:18.27MikkThen I guess people create a fake frame somewhere and offset to that
04:19.45Arrowmastertinytipposition does exactly what your trying to do, take a look at it
04:19.54MikkLooking at TinyTip, it uses an OnUpdate that fetches the cursor position and moves accordign to it
04:20.17Yssarilk will look into it
04:20.34Yssarilthough i think it might be more trouble then is worth
04:21.09break19hey kael: since you're now the lead on the client development... is there going to be a ppc version, ever? :)
04:22.15Mikkblinks
04:23.10break19mikk: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/news-flash-incoming-improvements-to-the-curse-client/
04:23.33Mikklaughing my ass off here!!!  http://www.boingboing.net/2008/05/23/test-reveals-highest.html
04:25.40break19mikk: the highest IQs use macs. we all knew that
04:26.02break19looks over at his ibook, currently charging on the dresser.
04:26.04break19:)
04:28.48Mikkactually if you follow the link at the bottom there to the up-to-date version of that list, it's got all the unices at the top
04:28.59Mikkwith very varying browsers
04:29.36Mikknot that a 2 pt diff in iq means jack
04:29.40break19mikk: yes.. but BSD is a unix :)
04:29.51break19*chuckle*
04:30.01break19I wonder. how do they rate chrome users on xp ?
04:30.17Mikki'm at the stupidest of stupid apparently
04:30.19Mikki use opera on xp
04:30.36Mikk(funny, when i test i tend to end up at ~135...)
04:30.42Mikkthe tests must be broken
04:31.15ZhinjioI liked Chrome when I was using it, but it wouldn't let me install to any location, so I ditched it pretty quick
04:34.07break19I love my chrome
04:39.56Mikkuses opera because it does rss+mail
04:40.25Bluspacecowgets out the cookie and reads the new curse client thread
04:40.32Hessenhey, anyone know of a barmod that will let me keep blizzards bottom bar artwork? and still ad configurable bars on the screen?
04:40.47Hessencant seem to find this
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04:42.32Bluspacecowstill looking for that Hesssen ?
04:42.36Hessenyea
04:43.20Bluspacecow:( stoopid wow forums
04:43.25Bluspacecowit ate my post :(
04:43.30Hessenhuh?
04:43.35quiescenswas it tasty
04:43.40Hessenhum, maybe you make too tasty posts yes
04:43.57Bluspacecowhad this really long reply typed out about data broker
04:44.16Bluspacecowthen i went to re-authenicate and when it loaded it wasn't there :(
04:44.32Hesseneww
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05:09.10Repof7f29ee: move tooltip to a better location and make sure that it pops over not under :)
05:09.11Repoa67dec5: ranges will no longer fill width you will not have 2 next to each other on the default UI
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05:26.34Repo-- Consolidated TooltipShow handler since its impossible to move separate ones around
05:26.35Repo-- Hunter and mage spells added.
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05:43.33Bluspacecowrofl toast time
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05:54.47Zyndromenotalwaysright.com , go go
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06:06.30Hessenhum
06:06.35Hessenhttp://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw14412.jpg
06:06.44Hessenhow do you give pitbull borders like these?
06:07.41HessenTo my knowledge pitbull is using dynamic frame names like PitbullFrame1Cluser1 etc. and those represent different frames every time. So it cant be by kgpanels or anything like that.
06:10.01doom0rwhy not?
06:10.19doom0ryou can creat a blank area with a border and put other stuff on top of it
06:11.13Hessenyes
06:11.38Hessenbut you cant parent a kg panel to say the target frame in pitbull. because the target frame will get a different framename every time
06:12.14Hessenso you cant make the kg panel to show, and hide with the actual frame its supposed to be linked to
06:13.47chiperoh man, it's scary how much fun that was.  we put together a 15 man raid, all got infected, and portaled to theramore
06:13.59chiperransacked theramore, then trudged up to crossroads
06:14.26chiperslaughtered everyone in crossroads, then moved on to ratchet and tore it up
06:14.38chiperfinally took the boat to booty bay and tore it to pieces
06:14.46chiperthe entire time as zombies
06:15.24chiperthis was after we had also spent an hour in orgimmar
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06:15.52doom0rhmmm, need to be able to summon the boss in brs solo
06:16.07chiperit's hillarious watching what people do when they realize that 15 zombies are bearing down on them
06:21.18chipergoes to bed
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06:32.56asmodainew quest in Shattrath
06:33.07asmodaiplus an apothecary delegation
06:33.11asmodaiand some holy delegation
06:33.29doom0rtake the item i saw
06:33.32doom0rwhat else?
06:33.36doom0rthat's been there several hours now
06:34.40asmodainothing else yet what I can see
06:35.14doom0rwell what ar you talking bout the delegations?
06:35.40asmodaihttp://www.flickr.com/photos/asmodai/2976834649/
06:35.45asmodaihttp://www.flickr.com/photos/asmodai/2976833605/
06:35.55asmodaithat last one has Grand Apothecary Putress in it, in the ten
06:35.56asmodaitent
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06:37.23doom0rinteractable?
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06:38.48asmodaiyou can speak with some
06:38.51asmodainothing else yet
06:38.53asmodaianyway, off to work
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08:02.43ElkanoAckis ping?
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08:24.30vhaarr[Ammo]: I already tagged 636 as release
08:24.59vhaarrI found out you don't have to tag, you can "Edit file" in the wowace project and change the type from Alpha to Release
08:25.07Repo10fubar_guildfu: 03Elkano * r106 / (2 files in 1 directory):
08:25.08Repotrying to fix up the mess left by Viktor3b... if you don't know how to use svn, don't try on my repository...
08:25.22hyperChipmunksnickers.
08:25.46[Ammo]vhaarr: oh, I always tag
08:25.51[Ammo]vhaarr: shrug, just pushed it to wowi
08:26.29ckknighttagging is good practice
08:27.09vhaarronly if you care about releasing in general
08:27.45[Ammo]well this whole deal at least gives me control over release versions
08:27.48[Ammo]in whatever way
08:28.02[Ammo]ckknight: remove the description from the projects in my projects overview
08:28.06[Ammo]I know what they do p
08:28.14[Ammo]I want less scrolling
08:28.14vhaarrI asked Kaelten for that a month ago
08:28.26ckknight[Ammo]: tickets are useful to communicate what features one wants
08:28.33ckknightvhaarr: we've been busy
08:28.35WobWorkckknight: did you get my message earlier?
08:28.42ckknightno, WobWork
08:28.47[Ammo]ticketschmicket
08:29.17WobWorkckknight: k, Is there any way to convert a repo from SVN to Hg as outlined in http://ww2.samhart.com/book/export/html/49 ?
08:29.23Elkanohmm, ckknight, I wonder if syndication for EBB was fixed over the weekend...
08:29.29ckknightWobWork: take a look at hg convert
08:29.30WobWork(ie, with history)
08:29.36ckknightElkano: my guess: possibly
08:29.46WobWorkckknight: I thought that had to run on the server?
08:29.51[Ammo]time to jump in the car and get to work
08:29.52[Ammo]later...
08:29.55ckknightif so, I could run it for you
08:29.56ElkanoI'll see soon ^^
08:30.01WobWorkckknight: <3
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08:30.15WobWorkcould you run it for MrPlow? (proj: mr-plow )
08:30.16Elkanowell, there was a commit to EBB anyways so I'll just try
08:31.27ckknightWobWork: in the morning
08:31.34WobWorkckknight: Sure =)
08:31.42WobWorkmuch appreciated
08:32.00WobWorkactually, if it doesn't take too long, could you move all the rest of my svn ones to Hg?
08:32.14WobWorkotherwise just that and Xparky probably
08:32.16ckknightwe'll see in the morning
08:32.22WobWorkMany thanks
08:33.36Elkanook, ckknight, r135 ended up as a working file <3
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08:51.39asmodaiElkano: ohh, you're here
08:51.53ElkanoI am?
08:51.55asmodaiElkano: question: is it normal that EBB resets tracking to none whenever it gets loaded?
08:52.10Elkanothat's not EBB but the client itself
08:52.35asmodaiIs it? I could've sworn whenever I logged it it kept the tracking from last time.
08:52.39asmodaimmm
08:53.04Pheredhelit did in 2.4 but doesn't seem to do so now
08:53.28asmodaiMmm, so that's a regression.
08:53.53asmodaiI wonder if people complained about it yet.
08:53.58Pheredhelwell, try it, could really be
08:54.16asmodai*nods*
08:54.20Pheredheljust deactivate all addons and try if it resets when you relog
08:54.35asmodaiYeah, will do that when I get home from work
08:54.56asmodaiWill also take the time to see which addon is screwing with InterfaceXML\
08:55.09p3limwhen i rightclick an item in my backpack, what function runs?
08:55.25p3limits one of blizzards (hidden?) APIs
08:56.49p3lim[Ammo]: how is the MT frames in oRA built up?
08:57.04vhaarrContainerFrameItemButton_OnClick / ContainerFrameItemButton_OnModifiedClick?
08:57.16p3limvhaarr: thanks
08:57.16vhaarrp3lim: that's a rather broad question, isn't it, why don't you just go read the code?
08:57.40p3limwanna fix some support for it in oUF
08:58.03vhaarryes and?
08:58.42p3limcba looking through ace'd code this early
08:59.02p3limjust would like to know how its build up (on unitID's or whatever)
08:59.22[Ammo]read the code, it's not that hard
08:59.39[Ammo]and unitids is quite useless when moving people around raidgroups
08:59.44vhaarrindeed, and your statement is bullshit "cba looking through ace'd code", like that was harder than other code
08:59.45[Ammo]so guess what identifier...
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09:05.56asmodaiElkano: oh btw
09:06.10asmodaiElkano: why do temporary enchants throw an error on login?
09:06.33Elkanono idea
09:07.06asmodaiYou've seen it before or not?
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09:08.36Elkanono, but I also didn't test them that much ^^'
09:12.57asmodaiElkano: haha
09:13.28asmodaiElkano: Want bug reports? :)
09:13.29Elkanowell, I stopped playing both, my shaman and my rogue
09:13.38Elkanosure ^^
09:13.48asmodaiahh
09:13.52asmodaiok
09:13.58asmodaiwill get to it when I get home
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09:15.35Repo10grid2: 03jerry * r16 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fix Bar Indicator Generator.
09:15.35RepoFix Default Configuration.
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09:25.54asmodaiheh
09:26.01asmodaihttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=54299
09:26.04asmodaiWotLK Prologue Dual-plagued Brain Speech
09:26.47MegalonDual-plagued Brain has 42hp
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09:27.32asmodaiThat quest from the bishop, level 70 only?
09:27.38asmodaicouldn't get it with my level 62 :(
09:28.41Megalonquestlevel is 70
09:28.53Megalonbut no clue at which level you can get it
09:29.31asmodai> 62 at least ;)
09:29.36asmodaiI see it as grey
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09:31.06Megalonhm think it was yellow for my lvl70
09:31.17Megalonperhaps i looked at the wrong one then :/
09:35.18Arrowmasterso this guy in my guild has seriously been setting his alarm clock every hour to wake up and trick or treat in wow
09:35.34Arrowmasteri just caught him when i logged on to do it
09:35.58Arrowmasterand he says 'brb in an hour' and logs off
09:36.18quiescenstell them to go to sleep
09:36.46quiescensfind out where their hearth is and turn their innkeeper into a zombie
09:36.55TigerdyrArrowmaster: why the <censored> would someone do that? is there some sort of achievement
09:37.04Arrowmasteryes
09:37.11Arrowmasterthe collect 2 masks one
09:37.19Tigerdyrerh..
09:37.21Arrowmasterthat cant even be completed right now
09:37.32Arrowmasterhes got 15/20 so one more to go
09:37.43asmodaiMegalon: could be, it's that woman IIRC on the left hand side when you come down the Aldor rise
09:37.56asmodaidiagonally opposite the Apothecary delegation
09:37.59Tigerdyrone of my old guildies have cheered.. 50 Vanity pets and 50 mounts
09:38.08asmodaihaha
09:38.40Arrowmasteri had 50 pets last week, still working on rep for mounts
09:38.59Tigerdyrofc, he rejoiced when they put in the achievements
09:39.09asmodaiI am liking the achievements thus far
09:39.10Tigerdyrhe has Exalted with every faction he can be
09:39.16Tigerdyr's ok imo
09:39.19Tigerdyrgives something to do
09:39.34asmodaiit's only a pain in the ass that to 'discover' Orgrimmar you have to get killed by guards to set foot acros the treshold to trigger discovery :S
09:39.54TigerdyrRide! fast! :)
09:40.03asmodaiStill on my 60% mount :(
09:40.05Arrowmastershould have done it before the patch like i did
09:40.10asmodaimissing, mmm, 300g for my next skill up
09:40.17Tigerdyrerk
09:40.18Arrowmasterhell i fucking dinged 60 by discovering stormwind
09:40.24Tigerdyrlol
09:40.28asmodaiThen again, only started playing WoW again 2 months ago
09:40.43asmodaiso from 1 to 62 in 2 months of semi-casual play, not shabby.
09:40.49Tigerdyrmm..
09:41.04TigerdyrI started playing one of my alts again after having quit my GM position
09:41.41Tigerdyr67 - 69 in the span of a week, semi casual - ofc, working instances with rested exp helps alot
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09:43.04asmodaiTigerdyr: I assume GM in this case is guild master? :)
09:43.38Tigerdyryeh :)
09:43.43TigerdyrNot gamemaster ;-)
09:44.27asmodai:)
09:44.31asmodaiYou never know...
09:47.35asmodaiUpon clicking on the mob they wanted me to deliver the brain too, I got this:
09:47.36asmodai"You are now Neutral with The Hand of Vengeance."
09:48.09Tigerdyrerh
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09:48.54TigerdyrHand of Vengeance?
09:48.58asmodaiaye
09:49.27Megalonwotlk horde faction
09:49.43Tigerdyrah
09:49.45Megalonthe undead one, howling fjord basecamp
09:49.53Tamarothstupid question, if i have some addon as a dependency, i can call his functions right ?
09:49.54asmodaiwonder which is for Alliance?
09:49.57Megalonwarsong thing is boring tundra one
09:49.59asmodaiThat Valiance Expedition?
09:50.32MegalonThe Silver Covenant
09:50.37asmodaiah, thanks Megalon
09:50.54Megalonah yea
09:50.59Megalonand valiance
09:51.06asmodaihahah:
09:51.11asmodaiApparently, along with Phase 5, the Frozen Shades are active, and say different things depending on what your character's wearing.  My roomie's wearing a Memento of Tyrande and the shade asked her, rather politely to remove that 'disgusting thing' before spamming her with 'your friends and family will die'
09:51.21Megalonborean tundra and the other one in howling fjord i think
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09:54.13asmodaiI'm not sure what's more annoying, people going mega serious over things or people whining their face of that their precious playing time is being nullified with the zombies
09:54.27asmodaitheir face off even
09:54.46asmodaiIt only lasts for a while, big deal, soon it's over and people will whine about boredom again
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09:57.49asmodaiweird
09:57.52asmodaiThrall gone
09:57.55asmodaiMagni gone
09:58.44asmodaiFunny how 3 major cities see the most zombies: Shattrath, IronForge and Stormwind, and only because people stay grouped together there all the time.
09:58.50asmodaiExodar, Darnassus, relatively quiet
10:02.13asmodaiEssence of Wintergrasp
10:02.13asmodaiInstant
10:02.14asmodaiAllows the bearer to see and loot Stone Keeper's Shards. Also increases their focus in combat, improving the experience they gain.
10:02.16JY`it's not like it would be interesting :p
10:02.21JY`to invade darnassus
10:02.30asmodai"spoke to a GM about it, he said that they have been receiving a few questions about it, that it is indeed a bug"
10:02.30JY`only bored horde raid
10:02.33asmodaiheh
10:02.35asmodaiJY`: hahaha
10:02.57asmodaiI like to go to Exodar or Darnassus, less fps lag :)
10:07.19asmodaialthough:
10:07.20asmodaiThe commoners sent me to Bishop Lazaril. Bishop Lazaril wanted me to take a Light-infused Artifact to Velen in the Exodar.
10:07.29asmodaiso perhaps you need that prereq first
10:07.30asmodaimmm
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10:15.20Groktarpounces you
10:16.19Industrialfluffs Groktar
10:16.30Industriali win!
10:17.10Groktarhehe
10:18.21Tamarothso, you know, if i have one addon as dependancy and it does have few arrays, can i have access to those arrays from my addon ?
10:21.50Groktari don't know
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10:22.02Groktargives Tamaroth a baby ferret to console him
10:22.28IndustrialTamaroth: if you put it in the globl namespace
10:22.55asmodaiGroktar: that's sweet
10:23.10Industrialeg in addon1 you do MyAddonVariable='foo' and you are sure that noone will ever take that name (prefix it with YourAddon_ or something) you can access that from another addon.
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10:24.43Industrialcladhaire: !
10:24.44TamarothIndustrial: i couldn't find declaration of them, but they are in toc file as a SavedVariables
10:25.01Industrialcladhaire: ding50 on durid
10:25.08Industrialcladhaire: finy kittay wooo
10:25.13Industrialslying, even*
10:25.15Industriallskdjfa
10:25.17Industrialflying.
10:25.23Industrialneeds more caffeine
10:25.24cladhaire?
10:25.28cladhairegz
10:25.35Industrialcladhaire: feral charge - cat :p
10:25.52sylvanaaryeah, thats a cute new ability
10:26.02cladhaireaye
10:26.09Industrialits like shadowstep for kitties :D
10:26.50Antiarchttp://i37.tinypic.com/2mpx1jd.jpg
10:27.08asmodaiAntiarc: I assume the minimap?
10:27.12AntiarcYesh
10:27.19asmodaiThat's one damn sexy texture around it
10:27.33sylvanaardo you guys use instant health?
10:27.39AntiarcSexyMap will let you do very sexy things to your minimap
10:27.57asmodaiAntiarc: wait
10:28.02asmodaiAntiarc: it can rotate?
10:28.04Antiarcyes
10:28.07sylvanaarcyborz the minimap
10:28.07asmodaihahahaha
10:28.11asmodaiomg
10:28.12Antiarchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubQKbE5fNUs
10:29.41Repo10recount: 03Elsia 043.0.1 release * r941 : Tagging as 3.0.1 release.
10:31.25Castigo<Castigo> is there a way to have 2 separate xml
10:31.25Castigo<Castigo> without having to define all the frames in one xml as virtual?
10:33.06Arrowmastermost of us just dont use xml
10:33.11Zhinjioc
10:33.11asmodaiAntiarc: that's sweet dude
10:33.16Zhinjiowoops
10:33.34Antiarchttp://i36.tinypic.com/2j1s8bk.jpg
10:33.42AntiarcTexBrowser + SexyMap = match made in heaven
10:34.41asmodaiAntiarc: I doubt it will have a huge impact on performance?
10:34.50Groktarthat's pro
10:34.57AntiarcIf you turn on the animation and stuff, it runs an onupdate, but it isn't too heavy yet
10:35.04AntiarcI'll make it as performant as possible, definitely
10:35.10asmodai*nod*
10:35.30asmodaiRight now I am getting annoyed by the hits in fps I am getting from hovering over my items
10:36.23Brunersfancy, but still kinda pointless :P
10:37.38asmodaiPointless? It's cool, makes your UI much nicer.
10:37.51asmodaiThat's a point for some people.
10:38.15AntiarcWell
10:38.19AntiarcIt has some nice functionality, too
10:38.23AntiarcLike hiding all the minimap buttons
10:38.27AntiarcAnd fading them in when you hover over the map
10:38.34asmodaiowww
10:38.35AntiarcCleans up your UI a lot without removing access to them
10:38.44asmodaiyeah, indeed
10:38.55asmodaiI've been looking at ways to reduce the UI, but keeping functionality
10:42.03asmodaiAntiarc: well, fwiw, I think it's cool :)
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10:43.37asmodaiahhh
10:43.41asmodai*evil glee*
10:43.46Adirelle|workthe fade in on map hovering is win
10:43.51asmodaiKaelten will be involved with the CC
10:44.05asmodaiSo we can yell at Kaelten as well >:)
10:44.20asmodaigoes to dig through OneBag3's sources
10:44.26asmodaiKaelten: btw, thanks for those options
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10:45.45RepoRemove Aura Time Tracker frame.
10:45.45RepoSplit DebuffPriorities from SetupIndicators
10:45.48RepoAdd unit parameter to HasStatusChanged in Auras (for Grid2Alert)
10:49.27Antiarchttp://i35.tinypic.com/eqckdl.jpg
10:49.54asmodaiyeah, sweet :)
10:50.16Zhinjiocan anyone provide an example of an ace3 addon that uses dewdrop. either I'm screwing something up or I'm not understanding something
10:50.20Zhinjiomy code don't jump
10:50.24AntiarcDewdrop is ace2
10:50.25Zhinjioer, work.
10:50.39Zhinjiowell, it can still be loaded via libstub, no?
10:50.53Zhinjioor?
10:51.02Grumsomeone made a LibTooltip recently
10:51.09Grumwhich should be like Dewdrop right?
10:51.19ZhinjioI thought that would mimic tablet
10:51.23asmodaiAntiarc: only circular map representation what you are aiming for or also square? ('course, that texture will fail then me rekcons)
10:51.31Zhinjiobut maybe, if the tooltip items are clickable.
10:51.35ZhinjioI'll take a look.
10:51.36AntiarcI'm just doing circles right now
10:51.38AntiarcBut I could add squares
10:51.43AntiarcThough that'd be weird with rotations
10:51.48GrumAntiarc: you creating new art orso?
10:51.48asmodaiAntiarc: yeah, it would
10:51.55AntiarcGrum: That's all standard art
10:52.09asmodaiAntiarc: but a square shape does give more overview, mmm, trade offs
10:52.24pschrinerAntiarc: wow looks terrific
10:52.59Adirelle|workasmodai: where is Kaelten talking about CC ?
10:53.00GrumAntiarc: hehe nice :)
10:53.27ZhinjioAdirelle|work: main announcement
10:53.41Zhinjiospecifically: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/news-flash-incoming-improvements-to-the-curse-client/
10:53.48Adirelle|workoh, I don't read them :p
10:53.50asmodaiZhinjio beat me to it :)
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10:54.47laegplease recommend a mod for managing minimap buttons
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10:55.09Adirelle|worklaeg: hello
10:55.14laeghi
10:55.30ZhinjioAdirelle|work: just the person I wanted to talk to
10:55.43Adirelle|workZhinjio: ?
10:55.43Zhinjiocan libtooltip allow you to make a clickable row?
10:56.00Adirelle|worknot without hacking it
10:56.18Zhinjiois that functionality you'd like to integrate eventually?
10:56.53ZhinjioI'm trying to find a way to do dewdrop-like functionality
10:56.54Adirelle|workmaking clickable ? no, allowing to someone to custom it to do so ? maybe
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10:57.30Adirelle|workerm... pardon my english
10:57.50Zhinjiothe simplest case I can think of would be like AddClickableLine( blah, blah, blah function() )
10:57.53Zhinjioor such
10:58.33ZhinjioI think I'm gonna go look how auditorfu does it. I suspect thats ace2/dewdrop tho
10:58.53Adirelle|workactually we lacks a proper dewdrop thingy
10:59.04Zhinjionods.
10:59.05Adirelle|workor maybe is there something in acegui ?
10:59.25Zhinjiothis morning nevcairiel mentioned something about EasyMenu or something?
10:59.31Zhinjiowhich I had never heard of.
10:59.41Zhinjiomade it sound like a default bliz thing tho
10:59.41Repo10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * 8a4d0e9 / (8 files in 2 directories): [new]
10:59.52Arrowmasterits been part of the bliz framexml since atleast 2.4
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11:00.30castigopain in the arse ghosting...
11:00.45ZhinjioArrowmaster: is it at all useful? he said it was just for really simple stuff
11:01.12Arrowmasteri dont really think so
11:01.39Zhinjioauditorfu is dewdrop. darnit.
11:02.17Zhinjiodoes noone using ace3 like dropdowns or something? I'd have thought it would be a popular method
11:02.26Zhinjioor manner of use or whatever I'm trying to say
11:02.38Zhinjioreconsiders alternatives.
11:03.28castigoArrowmaster i found out how to include 2 xml files, just include them in the toc
11:03.30Zhinjiohmm, ace3gui maybe
11:03.43castigothe problem is that kinda creates like a truck of troubles
11:03.45asmodaihahah, Amazon.com offers me the choice to pay my order in EUR or USD
11:03.53asmodaiEUR 152 or USD 163
11:04.18asmodai163 USD ~= EUR 130
11:04.44Zhinjio<PROTECTED>
11:04.45Zhinjiohmm.
11:04.54Fasti152eur = 191usd
11:05.28Fastinm :P
11:05.57ZhinjioNargiddley wrote it.
11:06.00Zhinjiohmm
11:06.09AntiarcZhinjio: I use EasyMenu for my dropdowns
11:07.00castigoArrowmaster it creates "inter" depedency ftl if one module reference the other one
11:07.04Zhinjiosome code that includes it? chatter?
11:07.14AntiarcMobSpells does some
11:07.16AntiarcCheck wowwiki
11:07.18AntiarcIt has the info
11:07.22Zhinjioalright
11:07.24Arrowmastercastigo: like i said, most of us dont even use xml
11:08.26Grumi think you dont even have to use xml and can do anything from lua directly; or is there still some odd ends you need to do?
11:08.50Arrowmastervirtual templates
11:08.58Arrowmasterbut those arent even necessary
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11:10.07castigoArrowmaster yep i could do all from lua
11:10.29orionshockis there a trick to felmyst at all?
11:10.33castigobut since i already wrote the xml it's just a pain :P and since i have like 50 frames, rewriting it using virtual can be a bit of a pain
11:10.40Grumorionshock: how do you mean?
11:10.44Grumyou hit it and it dies
11:10.52castigoorionshock apart from not missing the portals an "screw" the tank rotation it suggests on bosskillers?
11:10.53orionshockeasy mode with flight phase?
11:11.01castigoah felmyst lolz
11:11.03Grumoh
11:11.06Grumstand at the big tree
11:11.17orionshockwe're doing that...
11:11.21castigothe tank stands by the big tree, the rest group up
11:11.25Grumwatch the dragon; if he makes a 'large move' towards you; you know you have to run down like hell
11:11.32castigoin SQUARES (each on a square corner, healer in the middle)
11:11.57Grumand 'towards you' means: North in this case :)
11:11.58castigothis leaves the "best" runaway chance u can have, that's all
11:12.11Grumcastigo: thats ground phase :p
11:12.46Arrowmastersince 3.0 we just use the 'hit till it dies' strat for everything in sunwell
11:12.50castigohe didn't said tricks for fly phase :P
11:12.52Arrowmasterit works
11:13.02castigoArrowmaster tank'n'spank ftw
11:13.31Zhinjiook
11:13.34Arrowmastermore like tank'n'havetoslowdowndpsonkalecbecauseyoualmostkillhimbeforeportalsspawn
11:13.45ZhinjioI need to play with it, but I think EasyMenu will take care of what I need
11:13.52Grumand orionshock: it used to be a lot harder
11:13.59Grumbut then again; anything in SWP used to be a lot harder :P
11:14.04bluspacecowomg im loveing Bank Stack :D
11:14.06castigoArrowmaster that u know u can "virtualize" <Button> aswell or just frames?
11:14.17Grumbluspacecow: stop typing /sort ! ;)
11:14.18Arrowmasterbuttons are frames
11:14.24Grum(i know i do that nearly every 5 minute ^^)
11:14.27bluspacecow<PROTECTED>
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11:15.10Grumhumz who will take it on themselves to create a decent AH addon? :P
11:15.39bluspacecowwell sometimes i like having sorted and unsorted items ...makes it easy to see new items
11:16.14bluspacecowGrum:auctioneeraddon.com  v5.1 ftw
11:17.36bluspacecow<PROTECTED>
11:18.29bluspacecowoh cool  [Darnarian's Scroll of Teleportation] from the isle daily stack now :D
11:18.34Zhinjiocrap, I forget how complex some of my dropdowns are.
11:18.42Zhinjioresigns himself to several hours of recoding.
11:19.25asmodaibluspacecow: I was happy that tailoring bolts now stack to 20
11:19.33bluspacecowwait
11:19.37bluspacecowthey do ?
11:19.41asmodaiyes
11:19.47asmodaiwas 10 before
11:20.22asmodaihttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=2996
11:20.48bluspacecowoh wow
11:20.51pschrineris there an addon that can show you how much non-money "currency" (badges, mark of honor) you have on each char? banklist did that, but oc it cannot anymore
11:20.51bluspacecowthats sexy
11:21.01asmodaiSaved me a lot of bank space on my tailoring alt :)
11:21.13asmodaipschriner: perhaps altoholic?
11:21.25asmodaiNot sure.
11:21.28Zhinjionods. that and auditor
11:22.27bluspacecowyou mean when your'e not on that character
11:22.31castigolooool on silvermoon NO invasion points are working
11:22.33pschrinerasmodai: thanks I'll check, looks like a pretty large canon for a tiny problem though :D
11:22.35castigothere are 2 up and both are bugged
11:22.41Groktarugh
11:22.44GroktarFUCK THE WOW FORUMS
11:23.06Groktarate another post
11:23.08asmodaiPrimer: true :(
11:23.14asmodaierr
11:23.20asmodaipschriner: true :(  but it's a nice addon overal
11:23.22Groktargod damn down syndrome kids coding that thing
11:23.37asmodaiGroktar: I doubt they have fixed my website nits yet
11:23.45bluspacecowyeah Grok i know
11:23.46asmodaiI keep posting website improvements XD
11:24.11bluspacecow:( they zombie killed the mining daily turnin guy :(
11:24.12pschrinerasmodai: yes it looks like I can skip using banklist if I use altoholic
11:24.16Groktarthis has to be the only forum software on the planet that loses your post when you have to login
11:24.27asmodaiwhen your main forums have +/- 317 errors on validation for the front page....
11:24.34bluspacecowexacly !
11:24.38bluspacecowreally sad
11:25.08asmodaiI mean, I'd get off their case if they'd drop the XHTML doctype
11:25.21asmodaibut you want xhtml, you gonna be decent and nice
11:25.35asmodaiEven if you want transitional, rules stay the same.
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11:25.52asmodai& is &amp; in references/links.
11:26.10asmodaionChange -> onchange
11:26.12asmodaiand so on
11:26.12bluspacecowi try to make a habit of answering posts in *notepad* then pasting them in fo rthe wow forums
11:26.17bluspacecowthat or TextEdit
11:26.29asmodaibluspacecow: Hehe.
11:27.07EthanCentauraidoes AceConfig-3.0 support keybindings in it's configs yet?
11:27.21EthanCentauraiI wanna drop Rock but that's the only thing I miss
11:27.21bluspacecowas a result when i got to shut my computer down i gotta close 12 unsaved TextEdit windows ....that and figure out if i've posted it or not
11:27.36Zhinjiooh nm... dewdrop is working fine
11:27.41ZhinjioI had a typo in my libstub call
11:27.44Zhinjiosighs.
11:29.45asmodaijeez
11:29.45castigosighs, needs 2 shards for the cool tabard that matches his t6
11:29.55castigoand no invasion points are working...
11:30.00asmodaihow to give tai chi chuan a bad name: http://www.gstaichi.org/english/videoClips7.php
11:31.45bluspacecowshot through the heart ....
11:31.51bluspacecowand you're too late ....
11:31.54Repo10ora2: 03ananhaid * r638 Core.lua: oRA2:
11:31.55Repo-zhCN update.
11:31.56bluspacecowyou give love ...a bad name !
11:32.17Repo10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * f63e84b / (3 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
11:32.18Repof63e84b: Make the first run variable a bit more intuitive
11:32.19Repoe5c6090: Added presets; will set the Blue Runes preset first time addon is run
11:37.38laegi hope they fire whoever is responsible for the zombies at blizz
11:37.42laegit's ridiculous.
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11:39.05bluspacecow:(
11:39.11bluspacecowi likes the zombies
11:39.16bluspacecowthey're fun in tea
11:40.27pschrinerI think it's pretty neat that we one upon a time are really surprised by something, no beta phase, no leaks whatsoever
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11:52.49Repo10tankwarnings: 03rbarreiros * r29 Core.lua:
11:52.50Repo- If the user isn't in a party, the fallback code should fail silently without any error message
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11:57.07asmodaiSo what kind of video cards do you guys use?
11:57.39pschrinerasmodai: I use an ATI X800XL
11:57.48Repo10tankwarnings: 03rbarreiros 04v1.0 * r30 : Tagging as v1.0.
11:58.24ArrowmasterX800XTPE
11:58.24asmodaiI'm on a 8800 GTS (the 640 MB model at least, thought that was the GTS), and trying to figure out where some of my slow downs are coming from.
11:58.47asmodaiIs it sometimes more processor/mainboard related rather than the GPU with WoW?
11:59.34Repo10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * a7db17d / (3 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
11:59.35Repoa7db17d: Add scale option to main options
11:59.36Repo5aa9c32: Sexied up the config options a bit more
11:59.49pschrinerasmodai: for my GPU, the new shadow model is a killer; I've disabled it. moreover I've found that Wow is rather jumpy on dual core CPUs, at least on mine it doesn't really behave nicely
11:59.52LukianAntiarc what is sexymap? XD
11:59.57Grumbluspacecow: i did mean a *decent* addon ;)
12:00.06Antiarchttp://www.wowace.com/projects/sexymap/images/2-sexy-map/ <-- sexymap
12:00.13Lukianlaeg, I LOVE THE ZOMBIES
12:00.15Antiarchttp://www.wowace.com/projects/sexymap/images/1-sexy-map-example-and-config/ <-- sexymap
12:00.20LukianPeople QQ'ing make me laugh :D
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12:00.34asmodaipschriner: mmm, I have an Athlon X2
12:01.10pschrinerasmodai: and I've moved from the very very neat pitbull - dogtags to ag_unitframes - but i've heard the default dogtags don't cause as many issues as those i was using
12:01.15Lukianlaeg, I enjoyed it taking me 5mins to cross my capital city for once, and attempt to fend off the zombies on the way, and when I finally turned, I did as much damage as I could to the guards and players XD
12:01.36asmodaiIn general I get 60-80 fps, but with raid groups or visiting Shattrath I'm going down to ~30 fps
12:01.38LukianAntiarc, holy crap that is sexy!!
12:01.49AntiarcIt's all kinds of configurable
12:01.53AntiarcThat's just the default preset
12:01.56Arrowmasterdogtag in general has always been a cpu hog i think
12:02.16pschrinerasmodai: I think that's perfectly fine. How is your fps in 25 mans, in combat?
12:02.30LukianAntiarc, the issue I've had with most map addons is that 'square' mode (or similar) really chews my cpu/fps.
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12:02.44AntiarcThis one doesn't support square, at least not yet
12:02.45asmodaipschriner: normal combat is quite ok, as solo. But when we did Onyxia with about 15 people I went to 20-30 fps I think
12:02.47AntiarcMaybe eventually
12:02.51LukianAntiarc, good! :)
12:02.55Lukianleave it that way for now :D
12:03.11Arrowmastersquare shouldnt effect your fps at all
12:03.27asmodaipschriner: Hovering quickly over items is giving me a 20 fps dent every time. So I wonder if my CPU or some bandwidth somewhere is being insufficient.
12:03.29Lukianwell it used to, not sure if it still does
12:03.30pschrinerArrowmaster: quite a pity - I've read up a lot on the performance issues of dogtag, and they seem in part to stem from v3. but i don't want to have build a handmade version of pitbull that uses v2
12:03.48Lukian(I also run wow under wine)
12:03.50Arrowmasterv2 was worse than v3 i think
12:03.51Pheredhel<PROTECTED>
12:04.15asmodaiPheredhel: I think 2^31, but might be wrond
12:04.17asmodaiwrong
12:04.18Lukianpschriner, don't use pitbull / dogtag then :)
12:04.24Arrowmasterall versions of dogtags had preformance issues
12:04.40asmodaiI like Pitbull :(
12:04.59Lukianasmodai, do you excessively configure it?
12:05.00pschrinerasmodai: I'm playing on an X2 3800EE, which is I think almost the smallest version. Combined with 3 GBs of RAM that is in general sufficient for Wow.
12:05.00sylvanaarhey guys WhoLib and Fubat_WhoLibFu are attributed to the wrong author
12:05.07asmodaiLukian: not really
12:05.15Lukianasmodai, tried agUnitFrames?
12:05.16sylvanaars/Fubat/Fubar/
12:05.20asmodaiLukian: not yet
12:05.22pschrinerLukian: well as i wrote, i don't, but i still think it's a pity
12:05.34sylvanaarArrowmaster can you fix that? or nevcairiel?
12:05.47Pheredhelhmm, ok looks like lua has arbitrary size integer
12:05.59asmodaipschriner: got 2 GB in the box now. I could always add 1 or 2 GB extra and see what it does.
12:06.19sylvanaaror is that something for ckknight and Kaelten?
12:06.32pschrinerasmodai: anything beyond ~ 1.1 GB should be fine. I wouldn't add another GB
12:06.34ArrowmasterPheredhel: lua doesnt use int's it uses doubles
12:07.06Pheredheloh, ok thanks
12:07.33asmodaipschriner: Mmm, I ought to check what a pristine WoW environment is giving me in Shattrath
12:09.45pschrinerasmodai: I wouldn't judge your PC's performance on Shattrath; Shattrath combines the worst aspects you can have. Far line of sight, plenty of character models, e.g.
12:10.17asmodaiFair point.
12:10.28dieckhm. how much reputation does a black temple full clear grant?
12:10.29asmodaiBut still, ought to give me an idea of the hit I take in groups as well.
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12:11.09castigodieck 3-4k
12:11.11dieckpschriner: then performance in Exodar should be great. No line of sight whatsoever and no characters :)
12:11.29asmodaiLukian: will give it a spin too.
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12:11.31asmodaidieck: :P
12:11.39castigodick  massive gfx ad blrndinh tho
12:11.46castigooops
12:11.49Zhinjioorionshock: does the current GC have a fubar icon if I'm *not* running broker2fubar?
12:11.49castigodieck
12:12.22kenlyricGC or CG?
12:12.26asmodaiBut I mean, it's not like character models are *that* detailed compared to many other games.
12:12.32ZhinjioGuildCraft
12:12.37kenlyricah
12:12.41asmodaiSo if I enter the main hall with A'dal, and I notice a hit of 10-20 fps.
12:12.43orionshockZhinjio: no, it's all LDB
12:12.50Zhinjiook, thats what I thought
12:12.51asmodaiIs that GPU or CPU/bandwidth related
12:13.23ZhinjioI was trying to see how you did the tooltip, and then realized it wouldn't work without either ldb or broker2fubar
12:13.23asmodaiI mean, might just be that my Asus board with the NForce 570 chipset is not adequate enough for my 8800's throughput or so. Haven't checked it deeply yet.
12:13.26Zhinjiothanks
12:13.26Zhinjiofor confirming
12:14.15Lukianasmodai, /console farclip 177
12:14.28asmodaiLukian: to reduce the distance?
12:14.37Lukianpretty sure that's cpu
12:14.43Lukianyup
12:14.48asmodaicool
12:14.53asmodaiwill give it a spin when I get home
12:15.24asmodaiCould very well be the CPU yes.
12:15.26bluspacecowman im hungry
12:15.39asmodaihands bluspacecow one of his cheese sandwiches
12:15.57bluspacecowi should go make my self something to eat BRB
12:16.07Repo10auto-invite: 03idefix6 * r27 / (3 files in 1 directory): Update for patch 3.0.2.
12:16.11bluspacecowwanders in the direction of the kitchen
12:18.06asmodaiRight now it's an Athlon 64 X2 EE 4600+
12:18.10castigois scoffing a bag of wotsits
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12:21.49ZhinjioI guess thats actually a fairly reasonable assumption
12:22.00Pheredhelis there a fast way to get the number of entries in a table?
12:22.11Zhinjioif someone is going to run FuBar, they're going to pretty soon find out that alot of the things they want rely on Broker2FuBar to work
12:22.15Zhinjioponders
12:22.51Zhinjioas opposed to writing code that caters to whichever method you use (fubar vs ldb)
12:23.25Pheredhelah found
12:24.04PheredhelI hope broker2fubar is included in fubar soon, it would make quite some sense for me
12:24.17Zhinjioon the other hand, you just have a tooltip, no real config menu other than blizz'
12:24.20Zhinjios
12:24.21kenlyricI'd rather just switch to fortress
12:24.23kenlyricbut
12:24.43kenlyricmost of the ldb plugins that mirror fubar plugin functionality have much reduced functionality
12:25.02kenlyriclike the money plugin doesn't show alt money and account money totals
12:25.14Zhinjiouse auditor?
12:26.06Pheredhelkenlyric: how about using the fubar ones and fubar2broker?
12:26.09kenlyricwell, that's other thing, finding an addon for ldb isn't exaclty intuitive either
12:26.17Adirelle|workvhaarr talked about merging broker2fubar into fubar, but I don't know what he had in mind
12:26.19kenlyricthe fubar ones lose display functinality in fubar2broker
12:26.32Zhinjiosome do, yes.
12:26.33kenlyriclike in order to show the value, you also have to show the name
12:26.48ZhinjioWhat I'm finding is that I'm down toprobably 2 or maybe 3 fubar plugins that I miss from fortress
12:26.49vhaarrAdirelle|work: how can you not know? pretty simple, isn't it
12:27.03Zhinjioand thats an acceptable loss given that something will eventually come along to fix that
12:27.34Adirelle|workvhaarr: copying the core and merging the config with fubar one ?
12:27.43vhaarrthe config stinks
12:27.46vhaarrthere will be no config
12:28.52Adirelle|workno config like "no way to put the plugin in the left/center/right  side of the bar" ?
12:29.04vhaarryeah that's right
12:29.07vhaarrhow else would you do it?
12:29.14Adirelle|worknothing more
12:29.30vhaarrso what did you mean when you said "I don't know what he had in mind"?
12:30.17Adirelle|workI thought they were two ways to handle this : 1) wrap the ldb in "fake" fbp addon, 2) does some voodoo magic in fubar core to handle them
12:30.42NivFreakugg
12:30.48vhaarrit's simply copying broker2fubar into FuBar proper, and then you're done
12:30.56NivFreakit's been years, but tonight I need a db9 to db25 serial adapter like nothing else
12:31.00NivFreakFUCK YOU SUN
12:31.04ZhinjioNivFreak: I have another version for you to try out, if you have time.
12:31.17asmodaiNivFreak: heh
12:31.20NivFreakZhinjio: work disaster atm
12:31.33ZhinjioNivFreak: ah, wondrous sun tip cables. I've made a few in my time.
12:31.36NivFreaksome ancient sun server that was running NIS auth off of it under a rack somewhere died
12:31.37Adirelle|workanyway, about the config, ATM any fubar plugin (not wrapped ldb) is responsible to handle their 4/5 config options (side/minimap/show text/show icon)
12:31.45asmodaiI remember a bunch of years ago when I still did system and network administration, I carried a shitload of serial cables with me :S
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12:31.54NivFreakyea, I'm a dev manager now
12:32.00NivFreakbut no one knows what to do with this thing
12:32.05NivFreakhehe
12:32.05asmodaiCisco also is/was the suck with their variety of cables.
12:32.30asmodaiYou're trapped in a maze of serial cables, all subtly different in pin layouts. What will you do?
12:32.38NivFreakcut yourself
12:32.51HjalteIs there an addon that I can use to monitor (and do simple statistics on) procs like the one from Timbal's Focusing Crystal that shoots a Shadow Bolt at the enemy?
12:32.53NivFreakI know this fucker is just sitting in the boot rom too
12:33.45Kaeltensylvanaar did they fix those two addons?
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12:34.48asmodaiKaelten!
12:35.04asmodaiKaelten: So, did you volunteer or were you suckered? :)
12:35.11Zhinjiohahaha
12:35.28Kaeltenasmodai ?
12:35.40asmodaiKaelten: Your involvement on the Curse Client (CC)
12:36.03Kaeltenoh, I'm just stepping up to fill a need.
12:36.28asmodaiKaelten: Cool. Btw, thanks for those options in the OneBag3's options menu.
12:36.43Kaeltenmore to come soon :)
12:36.47asmodaiKaelten: I'm digging through your sources now
12:36.48bluspacecowmmmmm sausages , bacon , mushrooms , baked beans on toast
12:36.54Kaeltenheh
12:36.59Kaeltenit's still in rough draft stage
12:37.10asmodaiKaelten: So with a bit of luck I ought to help out on that or OneBank soon
12:37.25asmodaibluspacecow: I'd be inclined to say you're British
12:37.36bluspacecowlolz imakiwi
12:37.38bluspacecowkiwi
12:37.42Kaeltenwell the reason I haven't done onebank yet
12:37.53bluspacecowbut when i talk on vent sometimes girls go "whos the sexy british man ??????"
12:37.57asmodaibluspacecow: Heh
12:38.04asmodaibluspacecow: vegemite or marmite?!
12:38.06asmodaiQUICK!
12:38.14bluspacecowvegemite
12:38.19Pneumatusalliance ghouls taking the orgrimmar portal makes the game implode :<
12:38.19bluspacecowall the way bro
12:38.26bluspacecowmarmite's australian :(
12:38.31Kaeltenis because the code for onebag is still in flux
12:38.47Kaeltenand they'll be refined to such a comonality by the time I'm done that I don't want to waste my time now
12:38.47asmodaiKaelten: That's ok *grin* Just a matter of adapting. :D
12:38.54asmodaiOh.
12:39.04asmodaiHence OneCore3?
12:39.09Kaeltenexactly
12:39.24Kaeltentake a look at how much code is in the old onebank
12:39.45selckinwhats the standard fishing addon these days :\
12:40.09Pneumatusi use FishermansFriend
12:40.16asmodaiKaelten: Well, I'll dig through it anyway, since you seem to become busier ;)
12:40.20Adirelle|workAntiarc: you added some fancy options to libbars recently, didn't you ?
12:40.26bluspacecowlolz "standard"
12:40.36Kaeltenhehe, kk
12:40.38Kaeltenbbiab
12:40.42Kaeltenneed to get my kid to school
12:40.44selckinPneumatus: looks like a good one thanks
12:40.55ZhinjioG'morning, Kaelten
12:41.11bluspacecowbbiab ?
12:41.26asmodaibe back in a bit
12:42.05Zhinjioapparently, I confused my entire guild last night using "fwiw" as an abbreviation
12:42.09ZhinjioI thought it was pretty common
12:42.14Adirelle|workfwiw ?
12:42.20asmodaifor what it's worth
12:42.21NivFreakfor what it's worth
12:42.25Adirelle|workthx
12:43.11Zhinjiomost of my guild think I'm a freak anyway, I suppose.
12:43.17Zhinjioheathens
12:43.28asmodaiZhinjio: Because you know how to fiddle them knobs?
12:43.35Zhinjiosomething along those lines
12:43.48Zhinjiosomeone changed my public note the other day to "Master of the Internetz"
12:43.53asmodaiHeh
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12:44.37asmodaiMine is along the lines of 'master of the secksi tongues' due to my i18n/l10n involvement in many projects and knowing quite a number of languages in various levels of proficiency
12:44.44Zhinjioyou know, its hard enough getting these damn 20 masks WITHOUT getting duplicaets.
12:44.46Xinhuan[20:43:42] [Guild] [Meytriks]: My name is Meytriks. I am a survivor living in Stormwind City. I will be at the Stormwind Harbor everyday at mid-day...when the sun is highest in the sky. I can provide food, shelter and security. If there's anybody out there, you are not alone..
12:44.48Xinhuanhahahahah
12:44.49Zhinjioer, duplicates
12:44.58Xinhuanwe challenged him to /yell it out instead of /guild
12:45.04ZhinjioXinhuan: thats awesome.
12:45.06asmodaiXinhuan: rofl
12:45.08selckinZhinjio: some masks aren't in game
12:45.15asmodaiselckin: Eh? :|
12:45.16bluspacecowhe sounds sexy
12:45.18Zhinjiobuh? o.O
12:45.22bluspacecowi can has date ?
12:45.30asmodai2008-10-27
12:45.33Zhinjiohow so?
12:45.33asmodaiXD
12:45.44selckinasmodai: dreani blood elf masks don't exist
12:45.58Zhinjioum.
12:45.59asmodaiah
12:46.04asmodaithat's smart
12:46.07dieckI think blizzard announced to remove the mask collecting archievment
12:46.15selckinfrom the title
12:46.17selckinachievement stays
12:46.18asmodaiYeah, the from the meta achievement for Hallow's End
12:46.19Zhinjioyup.
12:46.59Zhinjioits funny, the texture used for the mask achievement is, in fact, the belf male mask
12:47.09Zhinjioso thats doubly dumb.
12:47.21selckinthey had to add the itemids to the achievement
12:47.28Brunerswhy are they removing it?
12:47.31selckinprobably just didn't add to drop tables
12:47.42asmodaiYou know, one thing I am really wondering about, is Blizzard having too few people to coordinate things properly or growing too big to do so nowadays?
12:47.45ZhinjioBruners: because its impossible
12:47.59Zhinjiosee conversation above
12:48.08Brunerswhy just not fix it instead of removing it
12:48.16Zhinjiothe event is half over
12:48.38Zhinjionot exactly giving people that fair ofa shake in getting the achievement
12:49.01Zhinjioplus, even if they did the two masks, the drop rate is way too low to make it realistic
12:49.20asmodaiI've seen people trade wand zaps for 2g a zap XD
12:49.35selckini'm missing 4 bar the impossible ones
12:49.37Brunersseen them going for 10g aswell
12:49.40ZhinjioI'm on ... .lets just say "more than your average bear", and I still only have 8/20 masks
12:49.45asmodaiBruners: jeez
12:50.27asmodaiI mean, it's only an achievement. Another chance next year XD
12:50.44asmodaiYou need to wait 1-2 years anyway for the Brewfest ones (monthly brew anyone?)
12:51.10selckinaslong as te reward isn't an instant cast mount i don't want it
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12:51.15selckinomg please let me keep my broom :(
12:51.20asmodaithat broom rocks yes
12:51.26Zhinjioasmodai: I think though, that all of the things you had to do to achieve the goal have to be "reachable" during the time of the event.
12:51.38Zhinjioafter that, the rest is just to keep you playing for another 12 months
12:51.45asmodaialthough looking at it from the side is highly, ehrm, "suggestive"
12:51.53Zhinjiohahaha.
12:52.06ZhinjioI made that comment to a female guildie last night, and was met with a blank stare.
12:52.10asmodaihahaha
12:52.17asmodaiI noticed it on my female draenei
12:52.33Zhinjioshe said something "you think?" and I replied "Maybe its just the way you ride it"
12:52.33EthanCentauraiis that a broom between your legs or are you happy to see me?
12:52.37Zhinjiothen, the blank stare.
12:52.42asmodairofl
12:52.55Zhinjioat least I didn't get slapped.
12:53.16asmodaiI'm glad my guild is a casual raiding one, we have our fair share of women.
12:53.23asmodaiIt does make it nicer in general.
12:53.55asmodaiAnd man, some of these girls are prototype look/colour/dress/pet-crazy, but the others are fanatic levellers and raiders :|
12:54.57asmodaiGot a cute girl challenging to fight me in COD4, hahaha. Seriously, I think that rocks. :)
12:55.03selckin"omg its not epic, i don't want it"
12:55.29bluspacecow:( my mob died before my Haunt ball could hit him (
12:55.47asmodairofl
12:55.49asmodaihttp://www.threadless.com/product/844/Spoilt#zoom
12:55.54asmodaicontains movie/story spoilers
12:58.26Grumasmodai: cute girl ... right ..
12:58.27bluspacecowahh
12:58.37bluspacecowbut can you name the movies :D
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12:59.18Grumi was just checking; seems i dont know half of them
12:59.24Grumguess i'll have to download some stuff ;"(
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12:59.40asmodaibluspacecow: 80-90% of 'm
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13:00.32asmodaithe statue of liberty one for example, don't get it
13:00.34Grumhumz which ones are: 'it was earth all along'; 'kristin hr'
13:00.47Grummost are prolly 'one google away'
13:01.15ZhinjioI can name nearly allof them
13:01.18bluspacecow"earth all along" == planet of the apes
13:01.33Grumseen that movie; dont recall the connection :(
13:01.37asmodaiahhh
13:01.40asmodaiah
13:01.40asmodaiyes
13:01.41Grumhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green <-- for the left bottom
13:01.42asmodaiDuh
13:01.44bluspacecowat teh end
13:01.51bluspacecowwhen he sees the statue of liberty
13:01.54asmodaithe statue of liberty buried in the sand
13:02.28Grumor just google properly: http://www.illinoisloyalty.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=3114
13:06.02sylvanaarhai vote on my enhancement request if you want... http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/827-auto-create-milestones-from-tags/
13:06.49Kaeltensylvanaar: did those two projects get reassigned properly?
13:07.36sylvanaarlet me check
13:07.40chexsumeyes up a chartreuse bomb
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13:08.20chexsumtime to get wasted
13:08.24sylvanaarKaelten no, not that i can tell
13:08.45Kaeltenwho do they need to be assigned to and can you give me links?
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13:09.44sylvanaarsure
13:10.11sylvanaarKaelten http://www.wowace.com/profiles/akazik/
13:10.30Elkano~seen Kemayo
13:10.32purlkemayo is currently on #wowuidev (2d 2h 42m) #wowace (2d 2h 42m) #curseforge (2d 2h 42m), last said: 'asmodai: If your perking is relating to me fixing up any of my addons, I warn you that it's somewhat unlikely.  :D'.
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13:12.47sylvanaarKaelten looks like you guys are doing some serious redevelopment of the client, i just finished reading your post.
13:13.09Kaeltenyep :)
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13:15.35bluspacecowi know you're tired of hearing this Kaelten
13:15.44bluspacecowbut go go OS X PPC client :D
13:16.10sylvanaarKaelten i have one suggestion to that end. change the client to have no UI, then provide the UI separately - and allow for development of alternate ui's
13:16.45Kaeltenbluespacecow:  I'd like to, but there are some technical limitations that'll make it difficult.
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13:18.01sylvanaarKaelten that way you can get around the platform specific limitations to the UI, anyhow its a good idea in theory at least
13:18.54GrumwxWindows should be able to provide a 'local' look on any playform right?
13:19.00Grums/play/plat/
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13:20.01Repo10auto-invite: 03idefix6 04v1.80 * r28 : Tagging as v1.80
13:21.20GrumKaelten: the post you made looks excellent; i hope the client comes along just as good aswell :)
13:22.47Kalrothwas there boobies in the post?
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13:23.27pentium166yes, but they were well hidden
13:23.31Kalroth:(
13:23.38Repo10sell-junk: 03CrazyBenny * r39 SellJunk.toc: using no-lib-strip
13:23.52Kalrothaw, he went ninja afk when Grum poked him, no fun :(
13:24.54ShaneSvelleris anyone else unable to get into wow acct mgmt?
13:25.19ShaneSvelleri couldn't all of yesterday, just did a minute ago for one account, and now the other is back to giving me the same Apache Tomcat errors i got all of yesterday
13:25.34Pheredheloha... just finished my logic interpreter and on the way, found another way to optimize... and i havend even added complexer logic than and and or
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13:33.11sylvanaarwe need nand
13:33.37Pheredheli know, or a not
13:34.08sylvanaari wonder why programming languages use and and or, when all logic is expressable using nand
13:34.42sylvanaarfor that matter why cpu instruction sets use it
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13:35.28sylvanaari dont know why i'm asking that - random musing
13:38.04Pheredhelwell why they use it:
13:38.15Pheredhelcause it makes no difference to use and or nand
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13:38.48Pheredhelboth are executed in a single step on the processor
13:38.49sylvanaarKaelten i think part of the problem with the wholib authorship was due to merging of 2 different projects possibly.
13:39.05sylvanaaryeah
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13:42.43Repo10yatba: 03Adirelle * r9 Groups.lua: Fixed flaws caused by recent LibBars tweaks.
13:42.45Repo~lart Antiarc
13:42.45purlflings poo at Antiarc
13:42.58Tamarothhmm, anyone is using addon studio ?
13:43.38[SW]Dodgesomeone else has huge amoutns of errors after updating skinner today?
13:44.32Xinhuanhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=14514#comments
13:44.39Xinhuanapparently, death knights can learn this
13:45.24Stanzillabut not wear
13:45.25sylvanaarlearn it sure
13:45.30sylvanaarany tailor can
13:45.40Xinhuanno
13:45.45Xinhuanonly warlock and death kniht tailors can
13:45.47Xinhuansee line 2
13:45.58sylvanaaroh
13:46.26sylvanaarmissed that
13:47.26LukianXinhuan, heh I linked that yesterday in wowhead :p
13:47.30sylvanaarthey nerfed mah aoe...
13:48.27[SW]DodgeMessage: ...face\AddOns\AtlasLoot\Libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua line 218: cannot change a protected metatable
13:48.42sylvanaaryeah, i got that before too
13:49.09[SW]Dodgeonly if i have newest skinner enabled + a lot of ohter errors
13:49.31[SW]DodgeMessage: ...BigWigs\Libs\AceModuleCore-2.0\AceModuleCore-2.0.lua line 196: AceOO-2.0: Classes can only inherit from one or zero classes and any number of mixins or interfaces
13:50.57[SW]DodgeMessage: table: 2C72D1C0: AceConsole: args.standby: "IsActive" is not a proper function
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13:53.35Xinhuandid you try to mixin a libstub library into ace2?
13:53.38Xinhuanit won' work
13:53.58[SW]Dodgeit seems that something breaks ace2 :/ i installed ace2 as standalone and now i get the "cannot change a protected metatable" fromt Interface/ace2
13:54.18[SW]DodgeXinhuan: i tried nothing, i just updated some addons
13:54.20[SW]Dodge:X
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13:55.17[SW]Dodgeit seems to be skinner
13:56.00bluspacecow@project skinner
13:56.01Repobluspacecow: http://www.wowace.com/projects/skinner/. Skinner. Game: WoW. Leader: Jncl. Updated: 13 hours ago. Tickets: 1/1
13:56.34bluspacecowhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/skinner/files/900-b1-9056-8/
13:56.45bluspacecowseems to be the latest build do you have that version ?
13:57.20[SW]Dodgei updated with curse
13:57.33bluspacecowand which version was taht
13:57.46[SW]DodgeChangelog-Skinner-b1.9056.8.txt <-  in my skinner dir
13:57.57[SW]Dodgeso i thiink its the latest
13:59.18bluspacecow@project big-wigs
13:59.19Repobluspacecow: http://www.wowace.com/projects/big-wigs/. BigWigs Bossmods. Game: WoW. Leader: funkydude. Authors: Rabbit, Ammo. Updated: 3 days ago
13:59.35bluspacecow@project atlas-loot
13:59.35Repobluspacecow: No project found that matches 'atlas-loot'
13:59.48bluspacecow@project AtlasLoot
13:59.49[SW]Dodgebluspacecow: i now downgraded skinner to http://www.wowace.com/projects/skinner/files/894-b1-9056-7/ and it wokrs
13:59.50Repobluspacecow: No project found that matches 'AtlasLoot'
14:00.02[SW]Dodgejust 3 errors and no longer dieing ace2 :/
14:00.36bluspacecowok on skinner's project page is a link to the forum thread
14:00.45bluspacecowsubmit something there about it ;D
14:01.20chexsumatlas-loot-enhanced probably
14:01.37bluspacecow@project atlas-loot-enhanced
14:01.38Repobluspacecow: No project found that matches 'atlas-loot-enhanced'
14:01.59chexsum@atlasloot-enhanced
14:02.12Zhinjio@project atlasloot-enhanced
14:02.12RepoZhinjio: http://www.wowace.com/projects/atlasloot-enhanced/. Atlasloot Enhanced. Game: WoW. Leader: Daviesh. Authors: Hegarol, arith, Celellach, Kurax. Updated: 6 days ago. Tickets: 1/7
14:02.17chexsum@project atlasloot-enhanced
14:02.18Repochexsum: http://www.wowace.com/projects/atlasloot-enhanced/. Atlasloot Enhanced. Game: WoW. Leader: Daviesh. Authors: Hegarol, arith, Celellach, Kurax. Updated: 6 days ago. Tickets: 1/7
14:02.39chexsumsnap
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14:03.39[SW]DodgeUpdated to use LDB instead of FuBar, (let the flames begin...) <- fail
14:03.43[SW]Dodge:D
14:03.54[SW]Dodgei bet this change is the problem :D
14:04.29bluspacecowso you have fubar addons loaded but not FuBar ?
14:04.41chexsumFuBar > all
14:05.32Pneumatusyou dont need fubar to run libfubar-plugin addons
14:05.46Pneumatusthey can clip to your minimap instead
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14:08.47Repo10benecast: 03Wintrow2 * r88 Options.lua: Intermediate commit, updating waterfall to Ace3
14:10.11Zhinjiowhats the tag in an ldb object that lets you make a tooltip on hover?
14:10.15[SW]Dodgenow there is just the "old" atlas error(line 380:
14:10.15[SW]Dodge<PROTECTED>
14:10.29ElkanoZhinjio http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/wikis/data-specifications
14:10.36Zhinjiothank you
14:11.31mitchnullwhat is a good LocationFU replacement (that does LDB)?
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14:12.16mitchnullalso, what does minimapster do? :)
14:12.31Stanzillait's a minimap addon
14:12.32[Ammo]guess
14:12.54[Ammo]the description is pretty self-explanatory provided you know what mapster does :p
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14:13.56mitchnullammo: well, I'm not exactly sure about the mapster part either ;)
14:14.14[Ammo]then start by checking out mapster :p
14:15.26Zhinjiomitchnull: I haven't found a LocationFu replacement yet, although I'm looking
14:15.31mitchnulljust read it. think I know what it is now. guess I'll just check out minimapster too and see what it does
14:16.23mitchnullzhinjio: hm. maybe porting locationfu wouldn't be such a big deal
14:16.31laeghas anyone here been using prot warrior for pvp since the changes?
14:16.41Zhinjiopossibly. I haven't looked into it.
14:17.07ZhinjioI'd consider doing it if I weren't already swamped
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14:17.59ZhinjioI'm still puzzling through ldb.
14:18.21Grumsomeone made a broker_location project recently
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14:22.35Repo10cartographer_quest-info: 03lahow * r66 Cartographer_QuestInfo.toc: Cartographer_QuestInfo:
14:22.35Repo- minor toc tweak as suggested by chronosis
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14:33.19bluspacecowi love wowace project subscriptions :D
14:34.43asmodaibluspacecow: why so?
14:35.01bluspacecowcause i got an email when an addon updates
14:35.56asmodaiah
14:36.04asmodaimisparsed what you said
14:36.12bluspacecowrofl
14:36.12asmodais/sub/de/
14:36.30bluspacecowive gone from clicking the WAU update all button like a monkey on crack
14:36.48bluspacecowto getting an email everynow and then for the 5 addons i have subs for
14:38.41Grumanyone got a timemachine?
14:38.54castigoGrum i am working on one
14:39.01castigo:P
14:39.06quiescensits packed away
14:39.08Grumlet me guess; its finished in the future?
14:39.15castigoGrum BINGO!
14:39.15Stanzillastabs Grum
14:39.17bluspacecowhopefully elk's been able to squish the error i was getting
14:39.20Grumbleeds
14:39.33castigoGrum i am desperately looking for a teleport instead
14:39.46Gruml2haertstnoe!
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14:39.53bluspacecowthe one where when my shammies flametongue/windfury weapon buff runs out the bar streatchs across the screen
14:39.53castigoGrum irl i mean!
14:40.10Grumbluspacecow; thats a feature
14:40.19castigoGrum it tried to wave my hands and think insde myself "/use Hearthstone"
14:40.25castigobut my wife tought i was mad
14:40.41Grumdont forget the green lights .. it wont work otherwise
14:41.20bluspacecowwait it is /
14:41.24bluspacecowoks :D
14:41.43castigoGrum i can see my daughter going to her mom and ask "what's daddy doing? he looks a bit silly"
14:41.56Grumhe's haertstnoeing!
14:41.58mitchnullhow do I turn off the minimap icon for closetgnome?
14:42.16mitchnullnevermind ;)
14:42.22Stanzilla/cg
14:42.25castigomitchnull loginscreen -> Addons-> Disable closetgnome
14:42.26Elkanobluspacecow, which error?
14:42.35Grum<bluspacecow> the one where when my shammies flametongue/windfury weapon buff runs out the bar streatchs across the screen
14:42.43bluspacecowyep
14:42.50bluspacecowand sometimes it lingers there
14:42.53Elkanothat's one I never could hunt down :( I still think it's a client bug
14:43.06bluspacecowi was using an old build of EBB tho
14:43.14asmodaiI haven't had that yet
14:43.41asmodaibluspacecow: do you get an EBB: ERROR: windfury/flametongue when you log in as well?
14:43.54asmodaiwhen you logged out with those spells/enchants up
14:44.18bluspacecownah
14:44.26bluspacecowdoesnt happen all the time
14:44.40ulicasmodai: yea I got that recently too.
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14:45.10asmodaiany of you in a position to show it to Elkano now?
14:45.21ulicnope
14:45.26bluspacecownot me
14:45.30asmodaiheheh
14:45.30bluspacecowi got bed in 20 mins
14:45.31Elkanoasmodai, which version have you been using? 2.2.1-r130?
14:45.43asmodaiElkano: what's the latest in the CC release/beta?
14:45.55bluspacecow2.2.1-r135
14:46.03asmodaithat one :)
14:46.05Elkanowell, since 6h or so it's 2.2.2-r135
14:46.06bluspacecow@project elkanos-buff-bars
14:46.07Repobluspacecow: No project found that matches 'elkanos-buff-bars'
14:46.09asmodaioh
14:46.14bluspacecow:(
14:46.16asmodaiwell, the one before that then :)
14:46.20Elkano@project elkbuffbars
14:46.21RepoElkano: http://www.wowace.com/projects/elkbuffbars/. Elkano's BuffBars. Game: WoW. Leader: Elkano. Updated: 23 hours ago
14:46.30asmodaiInstalled it Saturday or Sunday
14:46.41bluspacecowelkano i could test but unfortunately i dont have a plain vanilla interface setup
14:46.45ulicyea I'm probably on one from at least 18hrs ago.
14:46.48bluspacecowwhich is what i think you need
14:47.01bluspacecowie someone who has cleared their wtf folder and only has EBB loaded
14:47.26ulicI think you only get those messages from temporary weapon enchants.
14:47.33bluspacecowive only been seeing the bug when the weapon buff runs out
14:47.46asmodaiulic: yeah
14:47.46FinalXheh, and my wow install at work is messed up :( silly wine/cedega
14:47.50bluspacecowwhich is why i cant test it  - the buffs 30 mins long and i dont wanna be up that long
14:48.12ulicyea the bar across the screen is also weapon enchants, but that bug has been there for eons.
14:48.14asmodaibluspacecow: no problem :)
14:48.14bluspacecowdoes EBB have a debug mode ?
14:48.34bluspacecowany kind of debug dev report i can gen ?
14:48.47ulicI'll try to look at after work tonight maybe.
14:49.13Zhinjiohmm,ludwig doesn't seem to be working at gathering new data
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14:49.38asmodaiI'll be home in about <3 hours
14:50.11Repo10skinner: 03Jncl 07master * b1.9056.8-1-gccc0108 / (4 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Skinner: Fix library defs again...
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14:54.34ulicElkano: If we reproduce that warning error thing at login do you want it as a wowace ticket or something else?
14:54.57mitchnullwhat is that bag replacement? (not baggins and not arkinv)
14:55.26asmodaiOneBag3? bagnon?
14:55.50Stanzillacombuctor?
14:56.28Elkanoulic, wowace ticket is fine, that's what they are for :)
14:57.42ulicI just noticed there weren't any yet, so wasn't sure you were intending to use them :)
14:57.47AckisWorkElkano: ulic should make a ticket asking if he should make a wowace ticket imo
14:58.25thulElkano: i love your buff bars :-D
14:59.10Kaeltenmitchnull  I like OneBag3, but then again I'm biased
14:59.11Elkanoah, ackis :)
14:59.14Elkano~lasrt AckisWork
14:59.18Elkano~lart AckisWork
14:59.18purlsmacks AckisWork up side the head with a clue-by-4
14:59.53[SW]DodgeKaelten: i like onebag3 too ! :D
15:00.03[SW]Dodges/like/love/
15:00.04[SW]Dodge!
15:00.20AckisWorkI'd like onebag3 better is there was a onebank3, oneview3 and onering3 to go with it...
15:00.31Shane|Workmaybe i'm missing something, is there a simple way to erase all character specific macros in lua?
15:00.37Matrix110ArkInventory ftw
15:00.40Matrix110but a pain to config :P
15:00.40Kaelten~lart AckisWork
15:00.40purldrops a baby grand on AckisWork
15:00.43[SW]Dodgeoh... yeah, and a free bagslot display :D
15:00.58KaeltenMatrix110: what's spiffy about ark anyway?
15:01.07AckisWork~love Elkano
15:01.08purlIf you love Elkano so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
15:01.10AckisWork~love Kaelten
15:01.10purlIf you love Kaelten so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
15:01.10Shane|Worki was looping from 1 to GetNumMacros and calling DeleteMacro on each, didn't seem to work as expected
15:01.12Matrix110spiffy? :P
15:01.13AckisWork~love self
15:01.14purlIf you love self so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
15:01.35Matrix110spiffy
15:01.35Matrix110
15:01.35Matrix110(adj) used to describe something as unique or amusing. Similar usage to cool.
15:01.38Matrix110aha
15:01.42AckisWorkafk meeting
15:01.58KaeltenMatrix110: I'm just curious.   OneBag3 is going to have plugins support, wondering if it's going to be able to fix it.
15:02.06Kaeltener supply that meaning
15:02.28Matrix110Well Kaelten the best feature of is basically that you can virtually divide your "one bag" frame into unlimited that contain lets say only Green Leg Items or Only gems
15:02.35Matrix110you can define rules use PT3 etc. etc.
15:02.56Matrix110after unlimted there should be a *bag
15:03.10Matrix110But a screenshot describes it best
15:03.20sb|workvirtual bags it is :p
15:03.49Kaeltenah, so yes the plugin system will be able to allow that on onebag3
15:03.56Matrix110http://www.themook.net/mookui/images/arkinventory.jpg
15:04.00Matrix110foudn via google
15:04.12Matrix110http://www.themook.net/mookui/MookUI_bankbags.jpg
15:04.21Repo10skinner: 03Jncl 04b1.9056.9 * 7e1e2f7 /: [new tag]  Tagging as b1.9056.9
15:04.45Matrix110Oh and that you can hide stuff is great
15:05.03Matrix110I like hiding my reagents like Arcane Powder, Runes of Teleport, Light Feathers etc.
15:05.46bluspacecow~lart Bluspacemoo
15:05.46purlexecutes killall -TERM Bluspacemoo
15:07.01bluspacecow~lart Blu
15:07.01purlputs on some milking gloves. "All right, now, Blu, this won't hurt a bit...."
15:08.04Repo10ner-frames: 03Jncl * r31 Locales (3 files in 1 directory):
15:08.04ReponerFrames: Bugfix for Locales, had the wrong addon name in them
15:11.16Shane|Workas long as you can compress empty slots, i'd be happy with OneBag3
15:11.28Shane|Workthat always annoyed the crap out of me with ArkInv
15:11.34Shane|Workjust stack them and give me a count
15:12.46Repo10ner-frames: 03Jncl 04b1.9056.1 * r32 : Tagging as b1.9056.1.
15:12.49ZhinjioI'm going to wait for Kaelten to finish before I go switching bag mods again
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15:17.02KaeltenShane: also possible with the new plugin stuff
15:17.42Shane|Workgood deal
15:18.12Shane|Workright now i use combuctor, which i like well enough
15:18.37selckini want virtual bags i can just drag betwean without rules
15:18.39Shane|Worki liked ArkInv but the cpu and memory overhead was just indecent
15:20.00selckinsetting up the rules is a pain, and they never really do the right thing
15:20.12selckin+ i can have like a healer set bag, and then 'extra healer item' bag
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15:28.04Repo10simple-unit-frames: 03Pneumatus * r76 / (3 files in 1 directory):
15:28.04Repo- New support for setting custom formatting styles using DogTag.
15:28.05Repo- Style management is available through /suf style
15:28.17sztanpet@project simple-unit-frames
15:28.17Reposztanpet: http://www.wowace.com/projects/simple-unit-frames/. SimpleUnitFrames. Game: WoW. Leader: Pneumatus. Updated: 5 seconds ago
15:28.58pastamancerselckin: hmm, and have it remember which items go in which bags?
15:29.39mitchnullcan I define custom categories in combuctor? like, I have this "equipment" filter in ABP where I manually place all my current items. is it possible with Combuctor? (or OneBag3)?
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15:32.56selckinpastamancer: don't even require that
15:33.07Kaeltenmitchnull: OneBag3 is going to offer plugins so that people can write stuff like that if they want it.
15:33.11selckinpastamancer: draggong the full bag from bank to char would be cool tho, just check if enough free space
15:34.39selckinpastamancer: i just want new items to go in a new items bag basicly
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15:34.50mitchnullkaelten: sounds nice. will check it out then when it's ready :)
15:34.54selckinpastamancer: i want to be in control, not some rules that take 2 hours to setup, adn then fail half the time
15:35.34mitchnullI'm still looking for a decent tooltip mod, too. rantTooltip's configuration is a bit too hard :)
15:35.35selckindragging stuff to virtually named bags should be really fast to sort
15:35.40selckinand make it easy to create them
15:35.55selckinwtb!
15:36.07Shane|Workmitchnull: I like seerah's tiptop
15:36.32Shane|Workhas nice, sane defaults
15:36.34Stanzillacowtip works fine again
15:37.05Shane|Workused to love cowtip but it would be the only Rock addon i'd have, so i traded it in for something funky and/or fresh
15:37.36weabdoesn't seem like a good enough reason to stop using it if you loved it.
15:38.22Shane|WorkI don't want to add an extra framework if i don't have to, and tiptop behaves almost identically. i never messed with dogtags for it, so, it seemed overkill.
15:38.34thulI would love it if someone just made a package for me :-P threat meter, readily configured unit frames, chatframes, damage meters, sct etc :-P
15:38.34Seerahhugs Shane|Work
15:39.00mitchnull:)
15:39.06Shane|Workgives Seerah thumbs up
15:39.08mitchnullwill try this tiptop thing
15:39.57Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06ace3-clone * r120 / (26 files in 3 directories): SKG :
15:39.57Repo- LDB conversion done. If you want icons on fubar, use Broker2Fubar
15:39.58Repo- Comms not working. DB not working. Obviously still WIP
15:40.00Repo- Reorganized Locales
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15:47.16ckknightwell, I got my new macbook pro
15:47.53Fisker-<insert machate>
15:49.19Zhinjioso ace3 folks: ace2/librock had an event they would fire "FullyInitialized" ... does Ace3 have some equivalent?
15:49.24BelazorWonder what his parents said when he told them he was gay
15:49.25BelazorXD
15:51.16Stanzillackknight: is it cool?
15:51.26asmodaiFisker-: lol
15:51.38Zhinjioand if not, what is a good event to wait for to begin doing real work (something that guarantees all SVs are loaded, player is in and guild data is available)
15:51.44ckknightStanzilla: pretty shiny
15:51.57castigoah in the latest version of dominos
15:52.00castigothere is OneBag :P
15:52.02ckknightBelazor: yea, I'm not gay
15:52.09ckknightso your theory is flawed
15:52.17thulI'm gay for you.
15:52.25ckknightthx
15:52.26weabi wasn't sure he was even talking about you
15:52.27ckknightbut no thx
15:52.30weabbecause it made no sense
15:52.36thul:-(
15:52.55ckknightweab: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/apple
15:54.09weabyeah i made it about 10 seconds
15:55.36Zhinjionoone has any thoughts on events that would be good to wait for?
15:55.46ZhinjioPLAYER_ALIVE seems the latest in the login process
15:55.56Zhinjioaccording to wowwiki anyway
15:56.36ckknightyea, that listing's out of date, quite probably
15:56.44ckknightthe way I did FullyInitialized was kinda hackish
15:56.55ckknightsince there's no deterministic event to tell you all the channels are loaded
15:57.00Shane|Workckknight: grats, do you have one of the new aluminum-brick ones?
15:57.00ckknightit's done mostly in a heuristic manner
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15:57.10ZhinjioI'm all ears
15:57.26ckknightShane|Work: yea, the new MacBook Pro, 2.8 GHz
15:57.51Shane|Workwhee
16:02.41Pneumatuswoot, old crafty after 324 casts and 8 ganks
16:03.04selckini got both before lvl 225 fishing
16:03.06selckin\o/
16:03.08Zhinjioyeah, PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD is decidedly not good enough
16:03.18ZhinjioGetGuildInfo is empty
16:03.27Zhinjiogod I hate this part
16:04.17Zhinjioits like I need some sort of frigging timer just to tell if I'm far enough in game yet or not.
16:04.20Zhinjiothats so lame.
16:06.07Zhinjiothe other stupid thing is that the guild motd has already displayed at that point
16:06.15Zhinjioyou'd think the rest of the guild info would be available.
16:06.18Zhinjioits not.
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16:07.04mitchnullhave you tried doing it in the first onupdate?
16:07.16ZhinjioNope.
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16:07.21Zhinjiowhen does that start firing?
16:07.40ZhinjioI would have thought that would be WAY before alot of other stuff is done
16:08.52ulicmaybe after, VARIABLES_LOADED
16:09.24ZhinjioI'm thinking maybe I'll just throw myself into OnUpdate and keep checking every 5 seconds or so until the guild info comes back clean.
16:09.30Zhinjiobut man, thats such a hack.
16:09.42ckknightZhinjio: it'll likely be after GUILD_ROSTER...
16:10.12Zhinjiowell, I'm actually calling GuildRoster() myself
16:10.53Zhinjiohmm.
16:11.07ZhinjioI'm not that GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE fires on logging in... testing now.
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16:27.32Xinhuanwere you looking for me Zhinjio
16:30.56Zhinjioum.
16:31.04Zhinjiono, I think I found the thing I was looking for.
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16:34.30Repo10ag_unitframes: 03andreasg * r665 / (6 files in 6 directories): fixed aggro on health bar, fixed color picker error
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16:40.00RaydenUniwomen prefer alliance, men prefer horde
16:44.11Gnarfozbs.
16:44.42RaydenUnihttp://blog.gamerdna.com/blog/2008/10/24/horde-vs-alliance-data-smackdown/
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16:45.50Gnarfozso, where do they say they got that data?
16:46.08NivFreakfrom people who signed up to thier site
16:46.09NivFreaklol
16:46.15Gnarfozgreat basis
16:46.17NivFreakyea
16:47.19Gnarfoznot really representative, but interesting nonetheless
16:47.26NivFreakis it?
16:47.48RaydenUnithere's about a 1% discrepancy between their numbers and those that can be found on the armory
16:48.40Gnarfozthe armory has gender data?
16:48.56RaydenUnithis is for alliance/horde
16:49.01RaydenUniit does not have gender data
16:49.01Gnarfozthe only data they can check against the armory is class/faction/char-gender balances
16:49.04RaydenUnisince they dont' ask you that
16:49.12Gnarfozuh this is about player gender
16:49.22RaydenUniOne, you can look at a huge sample of individual GamerDNA members. If you look at literally thousands of profiles, you get 60% Alliance, 40% Horde. Or, you can pull raw character data from the Armory. That gets you… 58.41% Alliance, 41.59% Horde.
16:49.22Pneumatusaccording to their stats, your twice as likely to encounter a female playing an NE druid than a male
16:49.29Pneumatuswhich sounds fail
16:49.34RaydenUniyeah but i'm saying that their alliance/horde stats are comparable to the armory
16:49.41RaydenUniso their gender figures are on some level representative
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16:49.51RaydenUniPneumatus i dont think so...
16:49.59GnarfozI never want to see a statistic that you had your hands in creating :O
16:50.17RaydenUni"Finally, for the most interesting result, 11% of all female WOW players are running an Alliance Druid, compared with only 5% of male players.  That puts the two groups almost even in raw numbers. "
16:50.27RaydenUnii had nothing to do with these numbers
16:50.36Gnarfozthat's totally different kinds of data from different sources. relevance and accuracy of one doesn't make the other more accurate or relevant
16:50.38RaydenUniPneumatus i think the % is from males and females indepdenantly
16:51.00RaydenUnino, but i think it implies similarities
16:51.08RaydenUnisince they didn't offer their pool size
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16:51.14Zergrethnevcairiel, ping
16:51.38Pneumatusunless of course they have dicked their stats up, and are basing it on character sex, not player sex
16:51.42Pneumatusthen it would make more sense
16:51.49RaydenUnino it's player sex
16:51.57sylvanaaranyone know how to get fisheye to ignore whitespace changes?
16:52.13Gnarfozno clue :X
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16:55.30harlwtf.. my chat's gone again..
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16:55.55harlcan't read what i or anyone else writes in-game
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16:59.15ulicharl: some mod with bad message hooks no doubt.
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17:00.18harlyesterday, i found out that Black List was preventing my chat. i disabled that and all i did was get another add-on (IgnoreMore) which i've disabled now as well, but chat's still gone
17:03.02sylvanaari have a few users that report that issue - yeah, its some chat mod that wasnt updated for 3.0
17:03.42harlit seems to be DontBugMe for me now
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17:07.04hax-Hey, are there any addons that will let me script lua inside of the world of warcraft game?
17:07.39weabtinypad
17:08.00hax-thx
17:08.05ulicomnibus
17:08.16ulicit might not be developed anymore though, haven't checked.
17:09.28hax-hm
17:09.35hax-is fubar a seperate addon?
17:09.54hax-I was looking on curse and came upon "adds tinypad to fubar"
17:10.01hax-not sure if that was just one of the toolbars or what..
17:10.16weabhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4417-TinyPad.html
17:10.44AnaralDoes anyone know how and/or where I can change my account time on WowAce? Having it set to GMT throws me off. :)
17:11.06hax-i see
17:11.08hax-thanks weab
17:11.14hax-and ulic
17:11.58weabnot sure if it's exactly what you're looking for, it's really just a notepad that can run scripts
17:12.33hax-thats what i was looking for :P
17:12.34ulicomnibus is the same, note pad that can run scripts.
17:12.48hax-just something I can use to develop lua within wow
17:12.57hax-makes life easier that way :P
17:13.49AnaralNM, found it in the forums User CP section... though I could have sworn I had already set the time there.
17:13.52ulicAnaral: I don't think it can be set for wowace.com yet.  I remeber it being discussed though.
17:14.21ulicI'm not sure the actual wowace or CF use that though.
17:14.38AnaralAh.
17:14.38ulicoh it might work for the forums, but not the rest of the site.
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17:14.54ulicforums is probably mostly what you care about though.
17:14.54AnaralYeah. No worky for wowace.com. Oh well.
17:15.31harlwhat else would there be.. UTC?
17:18.17Anaralharl: I want the time to be set to GMT -5
17:18.40AnaralSo not that I want an alternative to GMT, just a subtraction of it.
17:18.49harli see.
17:18.51AnaralBut yeah, if it's not in yet, no biggy
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17:23.51godzirrawaves.
17:25.35godzirraDoes anyone know of a way to hide pallypower?  I know I can do /pallypower suspend
17:25.41godzirrabut there's no easy way to hide it
17:25.43quiescensflees.
17:25.44godzirralike a fubar plugin
17:25.51godzirraI was thinking about writing one but I'm still a lua noob.
17:26.16godzirrapeers at quiescens
17:26.47ulicmoves to ZOMGBuffs for all his buffing needs.
17:26.56ulics/moves/moved
17:26.59godzirraI tried to use zomgbuffs, I just couldn't get used to it.
17:27.03Fisker-IT OWNS
17:27.14godzirraAnd it kept having problems with pallypower when I was trying to get them to work together.
17:27.16Fisker-now bow down to Zek
17:27.19quiescenszomg
17:27.21Zek*wave
17:27.31Fisker-captures Zek
17:27.34godzirraSo anyone know an answer to my question? :)
17:27.43Fisker-These mortal infidels my queen
17:27.55Fisker-They seek to invade your sanctum and steal your sekrits
17:28.04Zeksiewhat problems with PP godzirra?
17:28.05godzirrau has sekrits?
17:28.13Fisker-Zeksie has sekrits
17:28.29godzirraZeksie: Just looking for an easy way to hide it.  Like a fubar plugin that when clicked on hides PP, the same way the grid fubar plugin works
17:28.39Zeksieare both PP users and ZOMG users updated? I had to change some comms bits after PP update his bits.
17:28.54godzirraNot 100% positive to be honest.
17:28.54quiescenstoo soon, executus?
17:28.56Zeksieoooh. sorry. thought you meant problem with ZOMGBuffs ;)
17:29.00godzirraAh, no. ;)
17:29.11godzirraI tried out zomgbuffs and just kept having trouble with it, probably because I'm used to PP.
17:29.18godzirraI kept screwing up the PP settings since I had assist.
17:29.19Zeksiei purposely made ZOMG take up nearly no screen space.. PP is too 'in-yer-face' all the time
17:29.32godzirraYeah, thats the one thing I really dislike about it.
17:30.00Zeksieif you tried a very early ZOMG, you might wanna re-look at it. It's quite a lot smoother since early versions
17:30.08Zeksie(read: less bugs)
17:30.31quiescensbugs are fun too~
17:31.00godzirraI'll check it out.
17:31.04godzirraPP is the one blight on my clean ui.
17:31.05godzirra;)
17:31.23harlis there any kind of differentiation between attributes adding to SPELLDMG or HEAL left in the game?
17:31.31selckingodzirra: zomgbuffs
17:31.34selckinit rocks!
17:31.39godzirraharl: There must be.  Because some things add to only heal still.
17:32.00godzirraselckin: Ill try it out again
17:32.05godzirraI tried it right after the patch (I think)
17:32.17harlhm
17:32.34Zeksiejust having to recode the raid buffs bit atm to not bit stupid regarding the now raid-wide buffs.
17:32.48godzirraHeh.
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17:32.57quiescensa small number of talents/spells affect one or the other specifically
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17:37.27Industrialany wowace.com admin on?
17:37.36Industrialcan someone change my username to Industrial
17:37.41Industrialits 1ndustrial now
17:37.47Industrialand everyone knows I'm the one and only.
17:37.50Hirsute<.<
17:37.56Hirsute>.>
17:40.14EthanCentauraiIndustrial: http://www.wowace.com/request-name-change/ :)
17:41.30Industrialty
17:41.42ulicoh maybe I can get my request in first and become Industrial.
17:41.57Industrial<insert violent threat>
17:42.19godzirrar31 is newest zomgbuffs?
17:42.25Zeksie32
17:42.33Zeksiethat might be alpha tho.
17:42.34godzirraWhere can I get it?
17:42.41Zeksielemme check that
17:42.49Industrialulic: hm how about "I will rip off your limbs and use them to scoop your innards on your face, eat that bitch!" ?
17:42.50Grumi guess ... on www.wowace.com/projects/zomgbuffs?
17:43.02GrumO M G i am rite!
17:43.13Industrialcouldnt come up with a better one on such short notice
17:43.35Zeksieyeh. marked r32 as release. forgot that.
17:44.03leech2kcan I make zomg not cast while mounted?
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17:44.08leech2kIt kills me sometimes. :-)
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17:44.10godzirraHrm.  Is there a way to download r32 without checking it out of svn?
17:44.16Grumyes
17:44.19Grumman ....
17:44.21Grumclick 'Files' ....
17:44.28Grumand then .. O M G .. you can has download!
17:44.35Zeksieleech2k: if you had a version from a few days ago, then get an update, cos i fixed that some more.
17:44.39pentium166But no bucket.
17:44.49leech2kZeksie: thanks
17:44.51godzirraThat actually takes me to the svn log.
17:44.59Industrialtries to eat godzirra's brains cause Industrial is a zombie but cant find any
17:45.00godzirraO M G.
17:45.07Zeksieit used to check IsMounted() after PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED which was 100% reliable, but they removed that event and UNIT_AURA is fired earlier.. and IsMounted() is not yet flaged.
17:45.14XinhuanIndustrial: you can bug Belazor about it ;p
17:45.18Zeksieand there's no event that fires when you actually mount
17:45.25Industrialpokes Belazor
17:45.38leech2kI see
17:45.41godzirraI guess I'll just get r31.
17:46.20Zeksier32 should be on curse by now
17:46.21leech2khttp://static.wowace.com/uploads/18/303/803/ZOMGBuffs-r32.zip
17:46.24Zeksiedoesn't take long to go thru
17:46.25leech2ktry that
17:46.38godzirraThat worked.  Thanks leech2k
17:48.06Zeksieworking on a debuff monitor atm.. was gonna integrate it into zomg.. but it think it's more suited to be standalone
17:48.25Zeksiesomething that's aware of the new stacking rules, and raid potential debuffs et.c
17:49.23leech2kI need to find a mod that lets me know when Surge of Light of Holy Concentration procs... cause I seem to miss it in sct sometimes.
17:49.31Zeksieand will prolly end up doing the same for raid buffs, somewhat along the lines of MMO's raidcomp. but in-game
17:51.27Zergrethanybody using tiptac here?
17:51.52Zergrethgot some problems with it. it still shows the default tooltip when hovering over my unitframes
17:51.54harlSpell Power sucks
17:52.07Zergrethand no, it will not hide the tiptac one, the default overlays the tiptac tooltip :/
17:53.23harli'm using tiptac. no problems with it atm
17:53.23godzirraZeksie: how does zomg handle pally auras?
17:53.23leech2kin game raidcomp would be cool
17:53.23leech2kseems like a lot of work though
17:53.23Zeksiegodzirra: has a self buffs module. it'll remember last aura u used, and it'll auto prompt you for crusader when mounted. when you dismount, you'll get auto buffed back to last one.
17:53.23Zergrethharl, damnit. so its probably related to one of my other addons
17:53.26harlprobably
17:54.03godzirraNeat
17:54.05Zeksiegodzirra: same module handles righteous fury and seals if you want it to
17:54.30Zeksiethere's also the raid buff module, which you can setup to monitor targets for hand of freedom, bacon of light etc.
17:54.53godzirranods.
17:54.56ulicmmm, bacon.
17:55.03godzirraI'm prot so really I'm just worried about blessings mostly.
17:55.08Zeksieyeh
17:55.30Zeksieauto generated blessings ftw ;)
17:55.44Zergrethhm. disabled every other addon, still the same damn problem
17:55.45Zergreth>.<
17:55.47godzirrawell, if I could get everyone in the guild to use it that'd be great =p
17:55.59godzirraactually if it works with pally power as long as I get them to put me in charge of blessings it works out
17:56.07Zeksieshouldn't need to godzirra. it'll talk with PP users
17:56.20Zeksieyeh, you either have to be promoted, or they need free assignments enabled
17:56.32godzirraright
17:56.32Repo10pitbull_profile-switcher: 03Barfolomeu 04v0.0.2 * r8 : Tagging as v0.0.2. Added LibBabbleZone support.
17:57.03ZeksieZOMG is less strict, and assumes free assignments between palas, and from raid leaders/assistant
17:57.48selckini really want to be abel to disable freedom/sacrifice part of it
17:58.06Zeksienot forgetting the chat interface, made specifically for one of my druids. who would change his blessing needs at least 15 times per raid.. so i made it so he could do things like: !zomg -salv +bom
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17:58.17Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r968 / (3 files in 2 directories): Ackis Recipe List:
17:58.19Repo- Attempt to fix the shift click on a recipe
17:58.19Repo- Added to locals L["NoItemLink"]
17:58.21Repo- Dry-coded (Compiles with luac -p)
17:58.23Zeksieand it would change whichever pala was doing salv, to bom.. without any feedback from palas
17:58.37Zergrethah, the comments on WoWI say the double-tooltip problem is wow related and obviously a bug
17:58.38Zergrethowell
17:59.24Zergrethafk
17:59.27ZeksieZergreth: yeh, cos you hook tooltip:SetUnit and the UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_something event, and sometimes, both of them fire at once..
17:59.39godzirrawhats the f reedom sacrifice part do
17:59.53BelazorIndustrial: doen
18:00.06selckinZeksie: can i disable the freedom parts?
18:00.15Zeksiegodzirra: you set a target for freedom or whichever buff, and you'll get a tracker icon just for that spell on that person. you'll see the time left, and get an audible warning wwhen it expires. you can click the icon to rebuiff that person with it
18:00.26Zeksieselckin: you mean the tracker icon?
18:00.28Zeksieyes
18:00.45Zeksiein bufftehraid options, tracker.. or something
18:01.07IndustrialBelazor: wub yoo :3
18:01.13selckinZeksie: yeah and autobuffer after i cast it on someone
18:01.17selckinZeksie: gets quite annoying in pvp
18:01.25godzirrak, afk to do work stuff
18:01.30Zeksieyup, turn off learnable for that spell
18:01.57selckini've not been able to find how
18:02.24Zeksieloading pala so i can tell u exactly
18:03.05Zeksiebufftehraid menu, single spells, hand of freedom, learnable
18:03.17Antiarchttp://i36.tinypic.com/2j1s8bk.jpg
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18:03.25selckinoh
18:03.27selckinthanks
18:04.18Hjalte~seen apoco
18:04.20purlapoco <i=Apoco@adsl-99-162-57-237.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 95d 12h 13m 10s ago, saying: 'Arrowmaster: pm'.
18:04.43Zeksienew quest popped up from Putriss.
18:05.04Zeksienm.. i'm on wrong char!
18:05.06Zeksiekek
18:05.33Fisker-slaps Zeksie around a bit with a large trout
18:05.37Zeksiehush!
18:05.44Fisker-but i hate you :(
18:06.26Zeksiethose quest should give Hand of Vengeance rep.. :(
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18:08.06ZeksieFisker-: my guild leader does too. says anyone that makes you dependant on their mods is evil
18:08.08Repo10simple-soulstone: 03vaeyl * r53 / (4 files in 1 directory):
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18:21.45Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r969 / (2 files in 2 directories): Ackis Recipe List:
18:21.46Repo- Fix eroneous errors when no recipes are displayed (ticket 146)
18:21.47Repo- Added to locals L["ARL_ALLKNOWN"]
18:21.48Repo- Dry-coded (Compiles with luac -p)
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18:25.19asmodaiwell
18:25.22asmodaigood news, sort of
18:25.46asmodaithat InterfaceXML\ crap erroring out is one of the addons I force load because of it being out of date
18:28.30AckisWorklua> 1 < 1
18:28.31lua_botAckisWork: false
18:28.55asmodai:|
18:32.50Fisker-pastamancer my friend
18:33.01Fisker-True Zeksie
18:33.05Fisker-Blizzard is pretty evil
18:35.33Industrialasmodai: DUH?
18:36.03Fisker-Ackis is evil btw
18:37.17AckisWorkhttp://mibbit.com/pb/7Q0Tcv  <-- easier way to do that sorting for acquisition?
18:37.28AckisWorkty Fisker-
18:38.00asmodaiIndustrial: mm?
18:38.14Industriallua> 1<1
18:38.15lua_botIndustrial: false
18:39.15asmodaioh, nah, sorry, was not related
18:41.00asmodaiI officially declare wowjutsu strange.
18:42.36Repo10hits-mode: 03Allara * r57 / (3 files in 2 directories): - Added support for Shadowstorm spell school
18:42.55Repo10hits-mode: 03Allara 04r57-release * r58 : Tagging as r57-release.
18:45.53ulicasmodai: why is that?  You don't like their rankings math?
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18:47.55asmodaiulic: the batch system
18:48.01asmodaitrying to get my guild updated
18:48.12asmodaiit creates a batch id, and a position in the queue
18:48.22asmodaiand I see the queue number jump down, up, down up
18:48.33asmodaiand a few days later the batch id doesn't exist anymore
18:48.44asmodaiand I never got below, say 25000 in the queue :|
18:49.16NeoTronoh no no more zombie!
18:49.21pentium166;o
18:49.27NeoTronI am glad me and a friend went on a zombie rampage last night
18:49.36NeoTronwe took over westfall and darkshire
18:49.43NeoTronand then I took over all of lakeshire solo
18:49.52NeoTronlike every single npc there was a zombie or dead
18:50.02pentium166I wanted to see if I could find a place to get a perpetual zombie infestation going
18:50.35NeoTronit was really easy to make it last
18:50.46NeoTronevery time I attacked an npc it spawned a guard. take over the guard and npc.. :P
18:51.10pentium166I mean without intervention after the initial attack
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18:51.43NeoTronsome ppl got that going on sunwell isle
18:51.46NeoTronthe murloc camps
18:51.56NeoTron50-80% of them were all zombies
18:52.29nevcairielI hate people like you, NeoTron :P
18:52.41AeyanApparently the plague is ending in the next hour or so
18:52.51nevcairielfinally.
18:53.15ThraeFinally the Plague is ending. My Mom can stop bugging me to play WoW.
18:53.40AeyanHehe
18:54.06pentium166I had to hang out in the Exodar because it was the only place where the battlemasters were up all the time
18:54.33ulicnevcairiel: I don't know how to use git, and don't really care to learn right now, if I send you a .diff file for Riptide addition to HotCandy will you include it?
18:54.51nevcairielulic: all i need is a spell id, really =P
18:55.17ulicwell I was gonna make it easier on you than that, but I can supply that to.
18:55.43nevcairielas long as there are no talents/gear/glyphs that make the effect longer
18:55.44ulicnevcairiel: I have not used hotcandy yet, does it remove the lifebloom timer if it get's used up before the timer runs out?
18:55.57nevcairielyes
18:56.07ulicnevcairiel: I'm sure there will be a glyph eventually, but not yet.
18:56.29ulicnevcairiel: ok cuase riptide goes away similarly.
18:56.46nevcairielit watches the combatlog for fading buffs
18:57.10ulicanother question, there are different ranks of spells, but it seems like you only include one spellId, how does that work?
18:57.24nevcairielit matches on name
18:57.25pentium166riptide is more like rejuv/regrowh and swiftmend than lifebloom
18:57.37nevcairielbecause it uses UNIT_SPELLCAST_* events
18:57.41asmodaipentium166: same here, Exodar++
18:57.42nevcairielthat only provide a name
18:57.46nevcairielno id
18:57.54ulicnevcairiel: oic, you want any spellId or lowest rank?
18:58.08nevcairieli looked one id up already =P
18:58.15ulichehe
18:58.19uliccool, thanks.
18:58.27nevcairieli have no shaman to test, so uh
18:58.28laeg600 people in the forstmane queue :(
18:58.33ulicbars are important for riptide to get your most out of it.
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18:58.49ulicnevcairiel: I can manually grab an alpha and test it later tonight.
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18:59.13Repo10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.4.0-4-g39dca5b HotCandy.lua: [+1 commit] Add dry-coded riptide support
19:00.03nevcairielI wish they would fix the remaining two combatlog aura events
19:00.07pentium166What does dry-coded mean, untested?
19:00.17nevcairielyea
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19:01.10Repo10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.4.0-5-g952cda5 HotCandy.lua: [+1 commit] Enable Riptide by default, too
19:01.29ulicnevcairiel: sweet thanks, I'll give it a whirl this evening before our Molten Core run, horray for good reasons to go to old raids.
19:02.16Antiarchttp://picasaweb.google.com/cheald/LoganWeek2#5261910279772664306 <-- my kid is a leet raider
19:02.25NeoTronhttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/5/11694179879-angry-title.html
19:02.54PrimerAntiarc: haha nice
19:03.00Cheadsand once again Ghostcrawler shows his stupidity
19:03.15Primerreminds me of playing when my kids were young. I'd put them on a pillow across my arms and keep the keyboard on the desk
19:03.16asmodairofl
19:03.35NeoTronCheads: NERD RAGE MUCH?
19:03.39asmodaiI don't understand the hate GC is getting from people.
19:03.44NeoTronhe's great
19:03.50asmodaiThe guy's doing what no one did before:
19:03.53asmodaireally trying to communicate
19:03.55AntiarcGC is a girl
19:04.03pentium166a HOT girl
19:04.04asmodaihe's a guy :P
19:04.19asmodaiThere's photos of him @ BlizzCon :P
19:04.24Cheadshe's just so damn annoying all the time.. tagging all those pathetic threads with his lame comments
19:04.27PrimerWho is GC?
19:04.36Cheadsghostcrawler
19:04.41NeoTronAntiarc: I have similar photos of me playing Kohan I think it was with my daughter. first one she's content, second one not so much
19:04.46PrimerAnd I should know who that is because...?
19:05.02ulichehe, one reply was "MORE TOPLESS GNOME FOOLISHNESS"
19:05.03Cheadshe writes a lot of blue posts on beta
19:05.07PrimerAhhh
19:05.16NeoTronPrimer: because you read blue posts?
19:05.19NeoTronlike 80% of them it seems
19:05.32Cheadsand 79% of those he makes are just lame comments
19:05.52NeoTronCheads: you must be a ret pally
19:06.01NeoTronand no, he writes a ton of useful feedback
19:06.13NeoTronas opposed to Koraa whose comments are mostly insubstantian :P
19:06.19Cheadsneo never tried ret pally
19:06.22asmodaiI see Cheads is keeping stats ;)
19:06.32Cheadswarlock though
19:06.59NeoTronwhat you should be angry about as a warlock, if anything, is Koraa's lame comments that often seemed to be in the wrong thread and said nothing :P
19:07.29NeoTronbut then again both are software devs and it's not exactly in their job description to communicate with an angry mobs
19:07.30Tristanianisn't that the case with most blues ?
19:07.35Cheadsjust the annoyance that every (seems like) thread I read from GC, are lame comments
19:07.37TristanianGC isn't much better imo
19:07.45Tristanianexactly
19:08.02NeoTronTristanian: except GC
19:08.03NeoTronthe difference is GC is actually providijng a lot of honest direct-from-devs feedback
19:08.12Cheadsjust close the damn threads and ban the morons
19:08.14Tristanianand ?
19:08.35NeoTronoften without sugercoating or simplifying
19:08.35TristanianGC has proven on more than one occasion that he has very little clue on what she's talking about
19:08.39NeoTronTristanian: and what? it makes GC's post a very nice addition
19:08.48pentium166GC is a guy.
19:08.51Tristanianaesthetically perhaps
19:08.52NeoTronTristanian: if you still call GC a SHE you're the one who doesn't know
19:09.08Tristanianhe/she/it, does it really matter
19:09.09NeoTronand show me any example of where GC doesn't know what he's talking about
19:09.40TristanianI would tell you to have a look at the Druid beta forums
19:09.42asmodaiFunny, everytime I see all those crying posts on forums, I am playing that sound clip of the Heavy of TF2 in my head: waaaaaaaaaaaa, cry some more.
19:09.55Tristanianbut the threads are probably lost to clutter
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19:09.59asmodaiAnd suddenly, the day was sooo much brighter.
19:10.03Cheadswell.. regarding the current rage from ret pallies.. he claimed they were finely tuned for 80.. but apparently he doesn't think so anymore =)
19:10.10NeoTronTristanian: ah yes, tons of good feedback to druids. I envied those threads as a warlock
19:10.26TristanianIndeed, we did give feedback and TONS of suggestions
19:10.36Tristanianand even numbers from actual tests
19:10.38Tristanianand raiding
19:10.42NeoTronCheads: zomg more informationz makes diffurence!
19:10.51NeoTronTristanian: and you seem to think they don't do texting
19:10.52NeoTrontesting
19:11.05NeoTronTristanian: and they read it
19:11.09CheadsNeoTron obciously, but it's still contradicting himself =)
19:11.13TristanianI don't agree with how they choose to interpet them
19:11.34NeoTronas they test more, and collect more information in general, the state changes
19:11.38NeoTrondruids have no reason to QQ
19:11.47Tristanianis that so ?
19:11.48NeoTronheck, any dps druid at 70 would outdps a good warlock
19:11.56NeoTronferal or balance
19:12.00Tristanian70 is immaterial
19:12.03Tristanian./care about it
19:12.07Tristanian80 is the real game
19:12.08NeoTronit continues at 80
19:12.24Tristaniando you have numbers to back up those claims ?
19:12.28NeoTrondo you?
19:12.39Tristanianactually I do and I have posted them when and where it counted
19:12.42NeoTronI've seen raids where druids outdps locks on patchwerk
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19:12.51Tristaniandestruction ones maybe
19:12.57NeoTronbut it's usually hard since no one really ever bring warlocks to raid anymore from what Iv'e seen
19:13.07NeoTronfew parses seems to include locks
19:13.23Tristanianthey are fools not to, locks are very very viable still
19:13.25NeoTronand if you find them, usually you need to look somewhere near the tanks
19:13.39NeoTronviable, but not comparable
19:13.41pentium166next to the elemental shamans, eh
19:13.51NeoTronpentium166: indeed
19:13.53CheadsNaxx parse: http://wowwebstats.com/mej2qselnf1pm
19:15.57NeoTronpretty low DPS overall
19:15.59Fisker-your paladin is in the bottom of the healing
19:16.02Fisker-he should l2p
19:16.08Fisker-he should pwn priests, no problem
19:16.16pentium166er
19:16.25CheadsFisker- he's ret =)
19:16.38Fisker-chead the other paladin is ye
19:16.39Fisker-yes
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19:16.52NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/edqr4yqoumiw5?s=351530-389501
19:16.55Cheadsthere's just 1 pally there
19:17.00NeoTronI love how the BEAR druid is above the warlock
19:17.03Fisker-L2Rememberyourraid
19:17.23Cheads....
19:17.24Fisker-Try looking at some of the classes which have no class
19:17.31Fisker-He might begin with a Z
19:17.39Fisker-probably end with an arae
19:17.53Cheadsok, not my raid.. didn't see any were without class
19:17.55Fisker->:3
19:18.59mitchnullare these glyphs in the game already?
19:19.24NeoTronthe parses from the beta server does show somthing however - your DPS will decrease as you level if you got good l70 gear
19:19.27mitchnull(I'm kinda outta touch)
19:19.35Fisker-i'm just teh obvious trollin'
19:19.46Fisker-Friend of mine saying that paladins that don't pwn priests = l2p
19:20.16Cheadsmitchnull  what glyphs? there are glyphs on live, yes?
19:20.31pentium166decrease as you level?
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19:20.49pentium166due to combat ratings or...?
19:20.59Cheadsmust be that
19:21.06mitchnullcheads: ah, ok
19:21.07Cheadsstat decay
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19:21.28mitchnullcheads: was just checking out some on wowwiki. some are pretty strange, like the frostbolt one
19:21.36mitchnullare these glyphs easily swapped?
19:21.43Cheadsyeah
19:21.51NeoTronso how the heck can a hunter pet's  auto attack be the hunters higher causing damage ability?
19:22.04Cheadsso far, guess there will be some more rare at a later time
19:22.06NeoTronthe pet itself did 2859 DPS
19:22.24NivFreakwws?
19:22.28NivFreakoh
19:22.29NivFreakI see
19:22.56Cheadsneo that sounds a bit too much
19:23.00NivFreakwow, i wanna see his spec
19:23.01NivFreaklol
19:23.16NeoTronwould have been 11th on the DPS scale by itself
19:23.24NeoTronhas to be some weird bug
19:23.27laegif you have a 100% crit chance with an ability can resilence effect that?
19:23.39Repo10grid2: 03jerry * r19 / (5 files in 2 directories): Add some check for status and indicators.
19:23.40RepoBar default to 0 now when no status is linked to them.
19:23.41Repomade UTF8 optional
19:23.43laeg"The improved crit chance derived from the Remorseless Attacks talent stacks with that from the Improved Ambush talent, making it possible for a rogue with 15% or more base crit chance to obtain a 100% Ambush crit chance during the Remorseless effect. "
19:23.47NeoTronbut man pets do some sick dps
19:23.52NeoTronthis wolf did 1900ish DPS
19:24.20NeoTronno wonder hunters own damage meters if the pets do that much dps
19:24.27Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r970 / (3 files in 1 directory): Ackis Recipe List:
19:24.28Repo- Fix typo in ARLFrame (fix ticket 148)
19:24.29Repo- Start location sorting stuff
19:24.30Repo- Dry-coded (Compiles with luac -p)
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19:25.50Sunwindanyone know what addon could be causing me to get a bar at the spirit healers in battlegrounds that says "AOE Rez" ?
19:25.55SunwindI cant figure out which it is..
19:26.13DashkalDBM?
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19:26.51Sunwinddon't have it
19:27.50PaeneAre textures in an addon folder loaded into memory when the game starts?
19:27.51AntiarcPut your mouse over the bar, and type /dump GetMouseFocus():GetName()
19:29.47StanzillaSunwind: quartz?
19:30.48GnarfozSunwind: Quartz, Capping, DBM
19:30.50Gnarfozdo that
19:30.56Gnarfozprobably quartz ;)
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19:37.56PaeneAre textures in an addon folder loaded into memory when the game starts?  In other words, is it better to use icons already available when WoW loads, or does it not matter in terms of memory usage for both the client and addons?
19:38.40nevcairielI think they are loaded when used for the first time
19:38.46Tristanianyes
19:39.10Paeneic
19:39.21Tristanianthey shouldn't burden your memory that much
19:39.27Tristanianunless you have problems already
19:39.53PaeneI'm just curious, considering switching to a different texture scheme that involved less images in the addon folder overall
19:40.15mitchnullbut creating icons is hard ( at least for me :) so I always reuse some in-game icon
19:40.17Tristanianare you using a lot of textures ?
19:40.29Paeneyeah
19:40.31Paenediff skins
19:40.35Paenefor the sphere
19:40.42Tristanianaproximate size ?
19:40.56Paeneper skin folder? or per image?
19:41.02Tristanianper image
19:41.42Paenethe textures folder is 7.6mb....one sec on the per images
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19:42.14Paene33 images per skin at 16kb per image
19:42.57Tristanianbut the user isnt gonna use all of those ;)
19:43.01Paeneright
19:43.05Paenethat's why I was asking
19:43.10Paene:)
19:43.21Belazorcourse the OPTION to use them is there
19:43.41Paeneit's about .5mb per skin
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19:45.25doom0rsomeone wanna take my A/C out? i'll pay for lunch ;x
19:45.39Fisker-scratches Gnarfoz' balls
19:45.48Gnarfozthanks
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19:46.30LexSfXfor Titan developer(s), if any are here...: http://pastey.net/99880
19:47.28NeoTronI wonder.. does Mark of Blood work with AoEing mobs :P
19:47.33IndustrialLexSfX: ... dont just drop it in ehre and think it will be ok
19:47.39LexSfXi won't.
19:47.49LexSfXi'm looking for somewhere to contact Titan developers too.
19:47.53Industrialoki
19:48.17LexSfXi've looked all over though, and there doesn't seem to be a forum thread about it or anything.  the only place i can find is on Google Code.
19:48.35PolarinaLexSfX: Looking for a SVN repository?
19:48.39LexSfXnope
19:48.45PolarinaOk.
19:49.16LexSfXlooking for somewhere to talk to a Titan developer who can make "official" code changes so nobody's upset.  :P
19:49.26NeoTronfor example, on a fight like hexlord during the aoe, would it heal everyone damaged by the shadow bolts?
19:49.30PolarinaI'm looking for one, since wowace was killed.
19:50.04NeoTronwowace was killed? when?
19:50.07Brunerswhat is first, The Chronicles of Riddick or Pitch Black ?
19:50.46TristanianBlack
19:51.17Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r971 / (4 files in 2 directories): Ackis Recipe List:
19:51.18Repo- Remove L["Unknown"] = "Unknown Drop: The drop location of this recipe is unknown.  Please contribute by posting on the Ackis Recipe List thread at www.wowace.com/forums"
19:51.23PolarinaNeoTron: http://files.wowace.com
19:51.23Repo- Add a function to get the locations for the recipe, just does trainers now, will have to test and extend
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19:51.26PolarinaNeoTron: Front page.
19:51.28Repo- Dry-coded (Compiles with luac -p)
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19:51.56PolarinaRepo: Can you paste a bit faster?
19:52.12NeoTronPolarina: see I am using wowace still, works great. in fact it works better. so. QQ? :)
19:52.29PolarinaNeoTron: Indeed. QQ
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19:52.39LexSfXPolarina: you were looking for the TitanPanel SVN?
19:53.00PolarinaLexSfX: No.
19:53.04LexSfXPolarina: k.
19:54.13Industrialhttp://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/digital-short-rasta-man/787201/
19:54.14TristanianLexSfX even if you knew the SVN, which isn't a secret, its locked :P
19:54.17Tristanianso pm me
19:54.18Tristanian:p
19:54.47PolarinaSomeone put my addon up on Curse!
19:54.52PolarinaWithout permission!!!
19:55.18Stanzillaomg!!!
19:55.26Funkeh`1000$
19:55.27Stanzillawas it on wowace svn before?
19:55.48PolarinaStanzilla: Yes, but I didn't give them permission to upload it to Curse.
19:55.54Stanzillaomg
19:55.56Stanzillathat must be haxx
19:56.11nevcairielwowace was curse for a long time, you shouldve read the disclaimers =P
19:56.25Polarinanevcairiel: What disclaimer?
19:56.36nevcairielsee, there is your problem
19:56.49Polarinanevcairiel: There was no disclaimer.
19:57.45nevcairielYou keep thinking that :)
19:57.51PolarinaThere was none!
19:58.01Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r972 / (2 files in 1 directory): Ackis Recipe List:
19:58.01Repo- Dick around with keyword subs
19:58.02Repo- Dry-coded (Compiles with luac -p)
19:58.30PolarinaAckis: Why do you keep dry-coding?
19:59.36Pneumatusi bet its in his default commit message
20:00.21crookfingerjakehe's so hardcore
20:01.51pentium166real hardcore coders don't test compile it, they just know it works
20:01.58mitchnullI bet he's at work (or school)
20:02.03pentium166or something
20:02.08NeoTronthis is kind of funny: http://www.wowprogress.com/i/graph/boss25741.png
20:02.36PrimerI dry coded some crap and put it into production, only to find out later that it was causing recursion in an event handler
20:02.46Primerthat was exponential
20:03.19Primercaused our asterisk server to explode
20:03.57selckincommiting or putting in production is another level of stupidity
20:04.42NeoTronisn't "compiles with luac -p" redundant nowadays since it auto-compiles on commit and fails if compile fails
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20:04.59nevcairielNeoTron: shh dont tell Ackis that!
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20:05.20Funkeh`(but yes it does)
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20:07.35PrimerDongle
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20:08.25Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r973 / (3 files in 1 directory): Ackis Recipe List:
20:08.27Repo- Dick around with keyword subs
20:08.27Repo- Fix type with sorting
20:08.28Repo- Dry-coded (Compiles with luac -p)
20:08.46PolarinaWhere's CIA?
20:09.12NeoTronousted by Repo
20:09.14AckisWorkNeoTron: I know :P but I like it :P
20:10.05Polarinanevcairiel: Where's the disclaimer located? And if I host a new project, will it be moved to Curse?
20:11.11mitchnullis the water elemental glyph in game yet?
20:11.42Repo10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina 043.0.0 * r57 :  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
20:11.43Repo- Add SBF button to Interface panel
20:11.43Repo- Fix so Sentry Totems are not destroyed when right clicked
20:11.45Repo- Fix so frames with out of combat visibility do not flash in combat
20:11.50Repo- Fix so flowed buffs actually use the expiry settings of their home frame
20:11.52ArrowmasterPolarina: yes
20:12.01Arrowmasterdont like it then go away
20:12.16PolarinaArrowmaster: Then I will.
20:12.18Dashkalwowhead syndicates to curse.  Same as curseforge.
20:12.38Arrowmasterwowhead doesnt
20:12.48Dashkalwowace*
20:12.59Dashkalsorry, wowhead on the brain.  annoyed with the inaccurate skill levels on glyphs
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20:14.04Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r974 / (15 files in 2 directories): Ackis Recipe List:
20:14.05Repo- Change headers
20:14.06Repo- Fix another typo with ARLFrame.lua
20:14.06Repo- Dry-coded (Compiles with luac -p)
20:15.28selckinwhats a good alternative to capping?
20:15.28PolarinaAckisWork: What is with the "-p" emoticon?
20:15.37Pneumatusits a flag to luac :P
20:15.40Polarinaselckin: Spawning zombies?
20:17.29Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06ace3-clone * r121 / (22 files in 3 directories): SKG :
20:17.30Repo- auto-header-ified all files
20:17.59PrimerWhat is "auto-header"?
20:20.11*** mode/#wowace [+b *!*@ool-182f2d46.dyn.optonline.net] by Cairenn
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20:20.22ckknight$this->hasFlavr() ? $nom->nom('nom') : $want->doNot();
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20:20.57Xinhuanso much forum posts about the zombies
20:21.05Xinhuanhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=10001&sid=1
20:21.09XinhuanGeneral Discussion forum
20:21.18Xinhuanand i'll estimate 70% of them to be negative
20:21.24Xinhuanafter reading page 1
20:21.39NeoTronXinhuan: negative feelings is usually what prompts people to make posts
20:21.40ZhinjioPrimer: just included some packager variables to make the headers on my files look nie
20:21.50NeoTronit's much less common and requires a higher threshold for people to post positively
20:21.55Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r975 / (14 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
20:21.55RepoAckis Recipe List:
20:21.56Repo- Add L["Location"] to localization
20:21.58Repo- Modified a header
20:22.02Repo- Fixed another sorting bug
20:22.07Xinhuanyou might be interested in this thread
20:22.07Xinhuanhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11829528661&sid=1
20:22.08PrimerZhinjio: Ahh, I thought perhaps it was something that I needed to do too
20:22.13Xinhuanfor a poll
20:23.20PolarinaAckis: No drycode?
20:24.17AckisWorkPolarina: it was trimmed
20:24.33Polarinahttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=82D3F09A3DB61E71FB2B9366F629FF46.app23_03?topicId=11855820476&sid=1
20:24.36PolarinaAckisWork: Ah.
20:24.45NeoTronI don't get why people would be "on the brink of cancelling" over this
20:25.17Zhinjioprobably because they were already on the brink of ccancelling
20:25.19Zhinjioheh
20:25.21uliclet them go, most server stability for the rest of us.
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20:25.31nevcairielIf the event wouldve been much longer, i would've written evil GM tickets once an hour
20:25.36nevcairielit was so damn annoying
20:25.40nevcairielyou couldnt do shit in game anymore
20:25.44Gnarfozwasn't polarina banned for abusing the lua bots
20:26.06*** join/#wowace JensRex (n=jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens)
20:26.06ulicwe talking spaking or what?
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20:26.12ulic*spank
20:26.19PolarinaGnarfoz: Nope. :)
20:26.20Gnarfozmeh, only on wowuidev
20:26.21Xinhuanhttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/11829507524-blizzard-always-asks-for-our-feedback.html
20:26.23Xinhuanaha a blue post
20:26.33Xinhuanadmitting that the pvp aspect of it is anticipated
20:26.38Gnarfozand the ban doesn't match because he's evading through another hostmask (i.e. someone should update the ban)
20:26.39Xinhuanand indeed sanctioned
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20:27.16NeoTronXinhuan: of course it was
20:27.19Dashkalyep.  It was intended from the start to fuck up normal wow life.
20:27.30NeoTronit's meant to be felt
20:27.36Xinhuanwhoa 26 pages
20:27.36DashkalI loved it, but just the same I'm glad I can go back to world of grindfest :p
20:27.39NeoTronand even with swp epics, I hardly had any repair costs to speak of
20:27.50nevcairielOnly thing i _really_ hated
20:27.51Gnarfozof course you didn't
20:27.56nevcairieli couldnt kill the damn zombie-players in shat
20:27.59nevcairielwtf was that
20:28.01Dashkal^^^
20:28.04NeoTronnevcairiel: yeah that was broken
20:28.11DashkalProbably a limitation of Sanct
20:28.13NeoTronwasn't fun to be a zombie in shatt either for the same reason
20:28.29NeoTronI do think zombies in outlands was a bit silly
20:28.33nevcairielthey zombies ran around infecting every player and godamn npc
20:28.34Fisker-l2p nevcairiel
20:28.34DashkalHopefully if something like this happens again they'll avoid repeating that in Dalaran
20:28.36nevcairieland i couldnt do shit
20:28.45Fisker-players can't infect you in shattrath
20:28.52NeoTronFisker-: they can. retch
20:28.55DashkalFisker-: they can: Retch
20:28.59NeoTronlol
20:29.04Dashkaltoo slow :p
20:29.11Fisker-How do i am stupid and not know how to use movement controls?+
20:29.30Fisker-people who get infected by zombies = failures
20:29.38Repo10benecast: 03Wintrow2 * r89 Options.lua: Cursing at Waterfall...
20:29.39RepoTrying to make an optionstree that does Ace2 AND Ace3...
20:29.39Fisker-Unless they intentionally try to get infected
20:29.54Fisker-or are being camped at some kind of portal etc.
20:29.56NeoTronFisker-: I accidently got infected when riding around a corner into 10 npc zombies
20:30.01DashkalFisker-: two or three barfs and you get infected like it or not, add the slow debuff thanks to the barf cloud and making it to a healer in a minute isn't trivial
20:30.26Fisker-don't get hit by the barf in the first place
20:30.26NeoTronI went to check the stockades after reports of rats running out (which they were) and got zombified in no-time
20:30.42NeoTronI agree that the cloud is pretty harmless
20:30.47DashkalWhich means don't touch the ground.  Which means no talking to bankers or the like
20:30.59Xinhuanare u people on a pvp or pve server?
20:31.03DashkalOnly real way to avoid it was to simply stay out of shattrath
20:31.07Fisker-It means don't stand still when zombies attack
20:31.15Fisker-and banks in shattrath have healers
20:31.23DashkalNot at the end
20:31.28DashkalThe aldor one was in the back
20:31.34Dashkaldidn't save the bankers or the guild banks
20:31.38Fisker-"making it to a healer in a minute isn't trivial"
20:31.48DashkalDepends on where you got caught
20:31.49NeoTronDashkal: I could easily out-maneauver zombies in shattrah
20:31.49Fisker-It is if you're 40 yards from it
20:31.55Fisker-same
20:32.04DashkalStay in the air and you're fine
20:32.06NeoTronand I actively tried to kill them
20:32.08Fisker-Infact i've only been converted once when i didn't intend on it
20:32.19Xinhuanare u people on a pvp or pve server?
20:32.20Fisker-And i wasn't actively evading them by staying in air etc.
20:32.24Fisker-pvp here
20:32.30DashkalXinhuan: PvP, but irelevant.  Shattrath is PvE regardless
20:32.40NeoTronmy favorite thing, after infecting westfall, darkshire and lakeshire, was going through the portal to silvermoon city
20:32.40Polarinanevcairiel: You need a zombie meter.
20:32.44NeoTronI'm alliance
20:33.00DashkalI never did try that.  I wanted to die next to a fishing spot
20:33.05Xinhuani found out today that
20:33.16NeoTronI infected the guards of the dide in the room next door
20:33.16Xinhuanfor the "kill 5 players in each of the following enemy capital cities"
20:33.17NeoTronsome boss
20:33.19Xinhuanachievement
20:33.30Fisker-you don't need honorable kills >:3
20:33.31Xinhuankilling a infected player doesn't actually count, since he doesn't die, he turns into a zombie lol
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20:33.38PrimerI'm curious as to why the game makes you login before downloading a patch
20:33.38Fisker-oh
20:33.44Primerit seems stupid
20:33.51Fisker-Use the launcher
20:34.06Fisker-Can't download a patch if it doesn't connect etc.
20:34.10Xinhuanif u use the launcher, it auto connects and auto patches
20:34.25Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r976 / (2 files in 2 directories): Ackis Recipe List:
20:34.25Repo- Update a disabled item in the GUI
20:34.26Repo- Dry-coded (Compiles with luac -p)
20:35.19ArrowmasterPrimer: it doesnt, if you put in an invalid account name and password it will still start updating
20:35.42XinhuanAckis i don't understand how an addon can have so much active development on it it has 976 commits ;p
20:35.59NeoTronhe's had like 10 commits today!
20:36.04Xinhuanlol
20:36.22NeoTronAckisWork: is ARL resource hungry?
20:36.29Xinhuanit isn't
20:36.31NeoTronI never looked at it but have been meaning to do
20:36.40Xinhuanbecause it doesn't do anything until you click the "Scan" button
20:36.43NeoTronit tells me waht recipies I'm missing and how to get them right?
20:36.47Xinhuanyeah
20:36.53NeoTronXinhuan: memory use? It has a large database?
20:36.56Xinhuanbut it doesn't check what you have till you click "Scan"
20:37.04Xinhuanyeah it has a more or less complete database
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20:37.32Xinhuanfor the most part, you'll want the addon when you are searching for stuff, but disable it otherwise
20:37.52Xinhuannot that it hurts anything, other than initial login loading time, by maybe half a second
20:38.11AckisWorkNeoTron: it's memory intensive but no work is done really except when you hit the button
20:39.03Fisker-It's KLH Recipe List imo
20:39.07NeoTronAckisWork: considered making LoD arl_<profession> stuff for the databases? How much is "memory intensive"?
20:39.12PrimerArrowmaster: ahh, good to know, thanks
20:39.30GnarfozFisker-: oh burn
20:39.35AckisWorkNeoTron: yes considered it, eventually will do that methinks, it's about 1 meg without doing a scan, 3 megs when you've done a scan
20:39.39Repo10mage-announce: 03Jomar * r68 / (2 files in 1 directory): MageAnnounce:
20:39.40Repo- fixed errors with announcements
20:39.43NeoTronthat's not very much
20:39.47NeoTronI was thinking 10-20 MB :P
20:39.48PrimerOh, yeah, I had been changing the icon to run wow.exe directly
20:39.55Primerforgot about how the launcher does that now
20:40.13Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r209 / (4 files in 2 directories): XPerl:
20:40.14Repo- Option to make 'Stealable' enemy buffs Big as well as your own debuffs.
20:40.14Zhinjiocan the "..." syntax be used anywhere?
20:40.15Repo- Stealable enemy buffs now have a rotatey pulsey thingy on the buff icon.
20:40.20Arrowmasterno
20:40.31Arrowmasterjust functions
20:40.40Fisker-ow @ CPU usage Zeksie
20:40.44Zhinjioso it has to be "defined" so to speak, in a function header
20:41.01Arrowmasteryes
20:41.17ZeksieFisker- it's not all that
20:41.24Zhinjiopoop
20:41.59Stanzillapicks a new color for Arrowmaster, green this time!
20:42.10ckknighthey all, how would you feel if we forced all zips and image uploads on wowace to match /^[a-zA-Z\-_0-9\.]+$/ ? (note: this would be done automatically on upload, you wouldn't need to rename anything locally)
20:42.36Arrowmasterzip uploads?
20:42.52Zeksielooks fine to me
20:42.54ZhinjioI wouldn't use any other symbols in 'em
20:43.05Polarinackknight: I would prefer /^[a-z0-9\-]+$/
20:43.16Polarinackknight: And a period.
20:43.16Zeksienot really a restriction, and if they're using other symbols, they should be put to death
20:43.44Zhinjiodon't need + .. can't see any other symbols that I need.
20:43.46Zhinjiolooks good
20:44.01PolarinaZhinjio: Huh?
20:44.10PolarinaZhinjio: The + isn't included.
20:44.15Zhinjiocorrect
20:44.15ckknight+ on the end means {1,}
20:44.22ZhinjioI'm aware.
20:44.25ZhinjioI was just thinking out loud
20:44.28ckknightokay
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20:44.42Zhinjiolaughs.
20:44.49Polarinackknight: Personally, I would want all letters lowercased.
20:44.53Zhinjiodude, I was doing regular expressions when you were in diapers.
20:44.59ckknightPolarina: not everyone feels that way
20:45.07ulicso the most common character that would no longer be allowed is a <space>?
20:45.10Polarinackknight: Just so you know my opinion.
20:45.20ckknightulic: correct.
20:45.21ckknightfucking spaces.
20:45.26ulic:)
20:45.27Polarinaulic: You can use a dash.
20:45.31ckknightZhinjio: how do you know I was in diapers? maybe my parents were hippies and didn't believe in them.
20:45.42Primer"You have used up your prepaid time for this account..." when logging into beta...beta not up any more?
20:46.00Zhinjioheh
20:46.06Zhinjioor .... maybe they weren't.
20:46.32ckknightyea, they're both entrepreneurs. Never hippies.
20:46.51Xinhuanckknight, what's the purpose of it?
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20:46.55laegckknight: any chance of intergrating the tubular bar on chinchilla with pitbull?
20:47.04ckknightXinhuan: spaces in zip names annoy me.
20:47.28asmodaia good shell escapes the space :)
20:47.28ckknightlaeg: um, doesn't PitBull have a tubular texture with SharedMedia?
20:47.29Xinhuanbut are they actually causing an issue?
20:47.34ckknightno, Xinhuan
20:47.41ckknightI just like cleanliness
20:47.46ckknight...must clean
20:47.48laegckknight: i'll look into it, thanks
20:47.52harlis there a way to check if a friendly player who's not in my party is AFK/DND?
20:48.02ThiefMasterwhisper him
20:48.02ckknightdon't think so, harl
20:48.02laegi really really like the tubular bar, it almost feels wrong.
20:48.05Arrowmaster!api afk
20:48.06lua_botFound 2 possible results for 'afk': UnitIsAFK, ReportPlayerIsPVPAFK
20:48.08ckknightlol, laeg
20:48.11laeg:D
20:48.12Xinhuanyes harl, whisper him, or add him to friends list
20:48.19ckknightah, yea, Arrowmaster
20:48.24harlckknight: ok
20:48.25Arrowmaster!api uniisdnd
20:48.26lua_botCould not find a match for 'uniisdnd'.
20:48.32Arrowmaster!api unitisdnd
20:48.33lua_botDocumentation for 'UnitIsDND' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitIsDND
20:49.01Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r977 AckisRecipeList.lua: Ackis Recipe List:
20:49.01Repo- Add some debug info to the location function
20:49.02Repo- Dry-coded (Compiles with luac -p)
20:49.06Arrowmastershould be able to use those on target or mouseover i think
20:49.15harli'm asking because Pitbull doesn't show afk/dnd status for target/focus/mouseover if it's not in the same party.
20:49.17Arrowmasterfor friends and guild members, those apis also tell you
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20:49.29harlso if it's possible, maybe that could be added to PB
20:49.50Vegeta]BT[hi :) does anyone here know about the Dewdrop 2.0 Lib Issues ? This Library cause an error so that some of my addons wont load. Or is there an alternative available for the latest Patch ?
20:50.03ZeksieVegeta]BT[: waht error?
20:50.03ArrowmasterVegeta]BT[: there is no issue
20:50.08Zeksieworks fine for me.
20:50.10ZhinjioVegeta]BT[: I'musing it just fine.
20:50.31laegckknight: do you have a screenshot of your current UI anywhere?
20:50.32Vegeta]BT[@Zeksie: there are too many of them, my Buggrabber is exploding :)
20:50.40Polarinaulic: Or a underscore.
20:50.42ckknightlaeg: I mostly just code, don't play WoW
20:50.53laegnp
20:50.56ZeksieVegeta]BT[: for a bet, it's the other addons that aren't updated, and can't cope with the LOD bug
20:50.57harloO
20:51.36EvilJohn-ckknight, did you ever make it past level 60?
20:51.41EvilJohn-or, even to?
20:51.46ckknightI'm lvl 61!
20:51.48ckknightwoo
20:51.50ckknight:-P
20:51.51EvilJohn-nice!
20:51.51Arrowmasterhaha
20:52.16EvilJohn-maybe someday, you can go on a raid
20:52.31Vegeta]BT[i also began to delete parts of the WTF Folder and something comes back online, but not all :(
20:53.08ckknightEvilJohn-: I'm gonna start playing WAR. I got a new comp that can play it
20:53.23EvilJohn-how is their addon support?
20:53.50TristanianI heard they support pretty much what WoW does
20:53.54Tristaniantruth/lie ?
20:54.00EvilJohn-that would be impressive, I hope so
20:54.07Arrowmasternot quite
20:54.10EvilJohn-it's one of the biggest reasons I couldn't get into LOTRO
20:54.21Tristanianexplain Arrow, whats their UI like ?
20:54.23harlwhat's the default_chat_frame equivalent for the currently active chat frame?
20:54.35ArrowmasterSELECTED_CHAT_FRAME?
20:54.48ckknightEvilJohn-: it has a lua environment and all
20:54.56EvilJohn-interesting
20:55.01ArrowmasterTristanian: i have no clue, i just know its not as fully featured as wow yet
20:55.12harlArrowmaster: thanks.
20:55.14EvilJohn-i'm afraid to play it
20:55.18Tristanianperhaps restricted in some way then
20:55.21EvilJohn-after the AoC waste of time
20:55.38Vegeta]BT[maybe it will help, if i build my UI completely new ? could it be the fact that i use some older LUA Saves in the WTF Folder ?
20:55.38EvilJohn-once, I swore never to give funcom another dollar
20:55.51ArrowmasterVegeta]BT[: no
20:56.16Tristanianwas a good thing I got early into the AoC beta, gave me a pretty clear view of why it wouldn't work :p
20:56.23Vegeta]BT[hm :(
20:56.37Arrowmasteri wonder if my AO characters still exist
20:57.01Arrowmastermade a fucking fortune in that game last time i started playing it again
20:57.09ckknightEvilJohn-: yea, AoC sucked balls
20:57.13Tristanianin what way ?
20:57.17Tristanian:p
20:57.22EvilJohn-yeah
20:57.29EvilJohn-I'm sure war is better and all
20:57.44Vegeta]BT[anyway thank you for your answers :) i'll keep trying :)
20:58.10ckknightEvilJohn-: I've played some WAR, it's very fun. I just needed a better machine
20:58.10Tristanianmy only gripe against AoC is probably the fact that is mostly PvP oriented
20:58.15Tristanianbut thats subjective
20:58.18Tristanianentirely
20:58.46EvilJohn-ckknight: was your hardware that dated? Maye that's why you only made it to 61...
20:58.48EvilJohn-:)
20:58.59ckknightlol, no, that's not the reason
20:59.06ckknightWAR is more graphics-intensive than WoW
20:59.12ckknightI just lost favor with WoW
20:59.17ckknightgot to be too much of a grind
20:59.17EvilJohn-understood
20:59.38ckknightto the point where just hanging out and coding was more fun than grinding one more mob
20:59.42ArrowmasterTristanian: isnt WAR mostly PvP oriented too?
20:59.47EvilJohn-i watched a lot of buffy the vampire slayer leveling characters. it's kinda sad that only way to enjoy playing that part of the game is not really pay attention to it.
21:00.12Tristanianblah
21:00.17Tristaniansorry my bad I meant WAR
21:00.46Tristanianbut some people enjoy that aspect so
21:00.48Tristanianits a choice
21:01.12Zhinjioomg
21:01.21Zhinjioits all working.
21:01.26ZhinjioI can't believe it.
21:02.09AckisWorkwhat's all working?!?!?
21:02.28Tristanianrelax Ackis I dont think he is referring to any recent drycoding
21:02.32Tristanian:PP
21:03.08PolarinaWhat is CHAT_MSG_FILTERED for?
21:03.33ZhinjioSKG
21:03.42PolarinaSKG?
21:03.48AckisWorkTristanian: :(
21:03.53AckisWorkZhinjio: WICKED DUDE :D :D
21:04.29Tristaniancome one Ackis you should be honored
21:04.45TristanianKaelten assures me you are the best drycoder out there
21:04.48Tristanian:p
21:05.39AckisWorklol
21:05.44AckisWorkI've just done it so much
21:05.53leech2kno wow at work?
21:05.53Xinhuansylvanaar
21:06.14AckisWorkyah no wow here
21:06.17Xinhuanpokes sylvanaar in the ribs
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21:07.09Zhinjiothats with the converskion to Ace3
21:07.21Zhinjionow I need to go in a dungeon and process a loot event, make sure all that part works.
21:07.33Zhinjio@project SKG
21:07.34RepoZhinjio: http://www.wowace.com/projects/skg/. SKG. Game: WoW. Status: Out of date. Imported from wowace SVN project SKG. Leader: Zhinjio. Updated: 6 days ago
21:08.22ZhinjioPolarina: loot distribution plugin
21:09.26PolarinaAckisWork: Why you program addons at work? What's your job?
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21:10.26leech2kI always find extra time to drycode at work. Even though I don't get paid for writing wow mods.
21:10.33ThiefMasterZeksie: "only show buffs castable by myself" is still broken ;o
21:10.51ZeksieThiefMaster: yep. and it'll stay that way for a while i'm afraid.
21:10.54Zeksiebeacuse:
21:11.23Zeksiethe old UnitBuff function's last parameter was 'castable'.. which i'd use, but now this is gone in favor of different options which don't include that filter
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21:11.58Zeksieso i'm gonna have to do some own filter or something.
21:12.18Zeksiehave disabled that part of the code for now, which stops the odd duplicate debuff problems ppl had cos of it.
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21:13.21Fisker-slaps Zeksie around a bit with a large trout
21:13.30ThiefMasterdamn blizzard removing useful stuff like that :x
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21:14.24ThiefMasterhm, the new third argument of UnitBuff won't work? ("If present and true (1), then only player-castable buffs will be returned; buffIndex still starts at 1.")
21:15.32Zeksiedunno where you're reading that, but that's the old usage
21:15.54ZeksieThiefMaster: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=6757458597D675B42685CCC504D56810.app23_03?topicId=8202271194&sid=1
21:15.56ThiefMasterhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitBuff
21:16.38Repo10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * 67dcb2c / (8 files in 3 directories): [+2 commits]
21:16.38Repo67dcb2c: Make scaling more granular
21:16.39Repo208f86c: Add shape selection options, add shape to presets, add a new purple diamond preset
21:16.51XinhuanAntiarc, what addon is that?? :)
21:17.06Antiarchttp://www.wowace.com/projects/sexymap/images/2-sexy-map/
21:17.06Zeksiehis minimap graphics love addon
21:17.10Antiarchttp://www.wowace.com/projects/sexymap/images/1-sexy-map-example-and-config/
21:19.42sztanpetoooh that map is sexy
21:20.07XinhuanAntiarc: O_O
21:20.08Repo10simple-self-rebuff: 03Adirelle * r191 ItemBuffs/ItemBuffs.lua: Hopefully fixed rogue poison.
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21:21.15Xinhuani am kinda speechless ;p
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21:21.37Gnarfozit's really too bad that my ui setup requires a square minimap, making that addon useless for me :(
21:21.42Repo10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * 8e19207 BorderPresets.lua: [+1 commit] Add 'Burning Sun' preset
21:21.46AntiarcIt can do squares now, Gnarfoz
21:21.54Gnarfozwell
21:22.04Gnarfozbut squares are not ubahsexy, right?
21:22.25Gnarfozor rather, can't do awesome spell effect borders because... well, how many of those are square? ^^
21:22.26AntiarcThey can be!
21:22.29AntiarcSure it can
21:22.30AntiarcSec
21:22.46Antiarchttp://i38.tinypic.com/2zfr3gj.jpg (new preset)
21:22.49Gnarfozyour sexy square minimaps. show me them.
21:23.07Gnarfozit took longer for me to degrade my english to that lolspeak level than for you to post the screenshot link
21:23.21Gnarfoz(how's that square?)
21:23.41Zhinjiois sexymap still alpha? I don't see it in CC
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21:24.00Gnarfozvery much so
21:24.18Antiarcyes, it's alpha
21:24.36Antiarchttp://i34.tinypic.com/9h887a.jpg
21:24.56Gnarfozhm, yeah
21:25.00GnarfozI see :>
21:25.29Gnarfozprobably still gonnga go with a 2px black border, though ;D
21:26.02Antiarchttp://i36.tinypic.com/imozee.jpg
21:26.49Gnarfozthat's just unusable :P
21:26.56Gnarfozthanks for playing, though ;)
21:27.03Xinhuanlol
21:27.05leech2kbut its pretty!
21:27.06Gnarfozit looks awesome for circle minimaps ;)
21:27.11Xinhuani'll agree with the unusable comment ;p
21:27.21NeoTronAntiarc: so it might look fancy, but seems to waste a lot of space :P
21:27.28sylvanaarXinhuan yes
21:27.44Xinhuansylvanaar, i don't quite understand the tickets you made about wholib ;p
21:27.45AntiarcIt's stupid configurable
21:27.48Xinhuancan you elaborate?
21:28.00sylvanaarXinhuan er what?
21:28.29sylvanaarwhat tickets?
21:28.29Xinhuan"The user name of this project's author is: akazik"
21:28.37AntiarcSo I'm sure you can find a way to integrate it into your UI :P
21:28.50sylvanaarlook at header on the source code
21:29.13GnarfozAntiarc: well ^^ I bet loads of people will, just for the shinyness ;) but I'm running a boring letterbox UI and that really doesn't allow round UI elements ^^
21:29.19Antiarchehe
21:29.25sylvanaarif you contact the person at that email address (which i did), its not the user the project is registered to
21:30.24Xinhuanoh.. so you were supposed to make a ticket to tell the author of wholib about it yeah? :)
21:30.47sylvanaarhuh
21:31.00Xinhuani'm not understanding
21:31.18Xinhuanwhat is your purpose/point?
21:31.19sylvanaarwhy not
21:31.19Xinhuan~_~
21:31.20purlSTOP DOING THAT!
21:31.27sylvanaarlol
21:32.12sylvanaarthe purpose is, I'm trying to work with the author of that code, but the project isnt attributed to him
21:32.34Xinhuanam i supposed to say, search the database of a user that matches that email address, and then reassign the project lead to him? ;d
21:32.35sylvanaarit looks like it was auto-assigned during the wowace merge
21:32.41Xinhuanhmmm
21:33.02sylvanaarso, i am providing the correct user name. if you dont believe me - thats fine
21:33.03Xinhuanthe automatic reassignment is due to the TOC
21:33.06Xinhuan## eMail: wow@kazik.de
21:34.22Xinhuanlast login april 30 hmm
21:34.31sylvanaarsend an email (i did)
21:34.56Xinhuandid u get a reply?
21:35.00sylvanaaryes
21:35.07sylvanaargeez
21:35.15sylvanaarthats how i know the guy's user name
21:35.31Gnarfozsylvanaar: you're skipping too many steps, if that's not obvious by now
21:36.05Xinhuanlol
21:36.07GnarfozXinhuan has no idea of what you did, what happened, what reply you got etc. just saying "the username of this project's author is x" is just confusing :p
21:36.13Xinhuanexactly
21:36.18Gnarfozor at least, did, 5 minutes ago
21:36.21Xinhuani'm not sure what you're trying to achieve!
21:36.24AckisWork@project wholib
21:36.25RepoAckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/wholib/. WhoLib. Game: WoW. Status: Out of date. Imported from wowace SVN project WhoLib. Leader: Malex. Updated: 11 days ago
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21:36.33Gnarfozgetting wholib assigend to the correct wowace user
21:36.39Xinhuanok :)
21:36.41Gnarfoz*assigned
21:36.53Gnarfozat least that's what I read from this ^^
21:37.48sylvanaaryes, that is correct lol
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21:37.54Xinhuansylvanaar, aren't you the one that did the majority of the commits to it anyway?
21:38.16Gnarfozactually, I thought it was by one of the weird asian translators who break everything
21:38.21Gnarfoz(lol, sry)
21:38.31AckisWorklol same
21:38.49AckisWorkbut then that's whodrop
21:38.52Xinhuani mean, ignoring translations and stuff
21:39.03sylvanaarXinhuan no, i have made fixes, but I was contacting the guy to see about taking it over - thats how this all started
21:39.19Xinhuandoes he allow you to take over?
21:40.59sylvanaarwe are still talking about it, he may make the changes himself. idk. we didnt get that far really.
21:41.10laegguys the new rogue ability shadow dance allows me to use all the attacks which are on my stealth action bar when i'm not in stealth
21:41.31laegdoes anyone have a solution?
21:41.39laeg(lasts 10 seconds)
21:43.19Xinhuanok sylvanaar, should be all fixed
21:43.28Xinhuanhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/fubar_wholibfu/
21:43.37sylvanaarawesome, thx
21:43.40Xinhuanand
21:43.41Xinhuanhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/wholib/
21:43.47Zhinjiook, fail.
21:43.55ZhinjioUnknown addon chat type
21:44.11Zhinjiopokes around.
21:44.51Nechcknquit poking me, you!
21:45.02sylvanaarlol
21:45.19Nechckn;-)
21:45.42harlcan TipTac and Karma be made compatible somehow?
21:45.58cladhaireAntiarc: Stupid question, I hope.. but how do i open the sexymap options?
21:46.02harlso that Karma shows up in tooltips again
21:46.10AntiarcRight click the map
21:46.12AntiarcOr check the interface options
21:46.26Repo10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * d05e1e9 BorderPresets.lua: [+1 commit] Added 'Midnight Moon' preset
21:46.35cladhaireAntiarc: neither of those work =/
21:46.42cladhairei tried the second of course, obviously :P
21:46.49AntiarcCheck for errors, if you would
21:46.56AntiarcI may be missing a lib reference or whatnot
21:47.01AntiarcAlso disable any other minimap mods you're using
21:47.03sylvanaaryou know, i told people at work that I was leaving early for a massage appointment, and almost every one of them mentioned "happy ending" in thier reply to me.
21:47.10sylvanaarjust thought id share that
21:47.12cladhaireno libstub
21:47.14Antiarcbrb, heating food for wife
21:47.15AntiarcDoh
21:47.17cladhairethat'd do it.
21:47.18cladhaireheh
21:47.18AntiarcI'll fix that
21:47.22cladhaireokay :P
21:47.26cladhaireI really like the idea
21:47.36cladhairestill have to try out chatter :P
21:47.43harlsylvanaar: happy ending.
21:48.05sylvanaarreminds me of an episode of robot chicken
21:48.38Gnarfozis it just me or does anyone else totally not get why that makes sense?
21:48.52sylvanaarwhat
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21:49.07Gnarfozmassage appointment + happy ending
21:49.11sylvanaarlol
21:49.22sylvanaaruse urban dictionary
21:49.57ulicor ask your father.
21:50.02sylvanaarhaha
21:50.03Antiarccladhaire: How'd you grab it, via git?
21:50.08AntiarcBecause .pkgmeta should have included libstub
21:50.09cladhaireAntiarc: aye
21:50.14cladhairegit
21:50.14AntiarcAh, okay
21:50.21Gnarfozulic: for that, I'd need to understand it, so I could translate it.
21:50.24AntiarcSupplement with the libs folder from http://static.wowace.com/uploads/18/304/363/sexymap-r20081027214604.zip
21:50.51ulicGnarfoz: if you understand the words in english and translate them word for word he might get it.
21:51.04cladhaireAntiarc: thanks.
21:51.11Repo10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * 0312b14 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
21:51.12Repo0312b14: Change to directly embedded libstub, rather than .pkgmeta'd libstub
21:51.14Repod0be0ff: Add LibStub, fix embeds.xml
21:51.23sylvanaarGnarfoz http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=happy+ending
21:51.38cladhaireI'd love to get a wrapper for svn/git that checks it out, gets the pkgmeta file and does magic things with it
21:51.41Gnarfozsylvanaar: yes, I was already on the way there ;)
21:51.49cladhairecause not being able to use checked out ccopies kinda makes me sad a bit
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21:51.57GnarfozoO
21:52.02Xinhuanthat would be useful cladhaire
21:52.05Gnarfoza-ha?
21:52.06sylvanaarhaha
21:52.10harlfinds it interesting how blood elves seem to be smaller when he plays a tauren himself than with other races.
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21:52.23Gnarfoznobody would have gotten that from just the translated words
21:52.25GnarfozI swear :p
21:52.32cladhairepkgsvn, pkggit, pkghg
21:53.37Gnarfozit's one of those "can't translate without proper cultural context" things
21:53.37sylvanaari know, its english slang
21:53.37nevcairielthats why i just run standalone libs :)
21:53.37sylvanaartransliteration doesnt work, yeah
21:53.37Gnarfozprobably also a distinct lack of "massage parlors" here might have something to do with it
21:53.39Gnarfoz^^
21:53.56sylvanaarwhere?
21:54.02Zhinjioidiom
21:54.04sylvanaarlol, what country doesnt have them
21:54.07Zhinjiois the word you want, I think
21:54.20sylvanaarcolloquialism
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21:54.32Gnarfozscratch that, I might just have not paid attention to them
21:55.00harlknew what happy ending was to mean even though he's never been interested in neither massages nor "happy endings" for that matter. how's that.
21:55.01sylvanaarin europe you can find them using that teletext thing
21:55.44GnarfozGermany, for completeness's sake, btw
21:56.03sylvanaari bet you they have an equivalent in german
21:56.15harlof course
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21:57.33Gnarfoztracking back, when you said "massage appointment", I was thinking of medical treatment, i.e. phisiotherapy
21:57.46sylvanaaryes, that was what it was
21:58.12Gnarfozgah ;D
21:58.37sylvanaaryou see why its funny now?
21:58.39Gnarfozthese damn things you'll only ever get if you live in a place instead of just knowing the language ^^
21:58.42asmodaibtw
21:58.49asmodaiany of you know if the gbank gets more tabs?
21:58.50Gnarfozyeah, it's glaringly obvious now ^^
21:58.54harli've seen a few paper entries related to those things actually, they explicitely advertised that, but that was about 15 years ago. haven't seen that kind of stuff lately anymore.
21:58.59asmodaiwith these glyphs it's filling up like crazy
21:59.12harl(in germany that is)
21:59.26NeoTronany locks here that still raid and have opportunity to test various specs?
22:00.00NeoTronwe're heading back to SWP in an attempt to kill KJ before the expansion and I want to not suck too bad :P
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22:01.56Gnarfozharl: just went looking, actually - those that I could find under "massagesalon" presented themselves rather... well, slutty
22:02.09GnarfozNeoTron: press 2
22:02.18NeoTronGnarfoz: har har
22:02.24Gnarfoz;p
22:02.30harlGnarfoz: yep
22:02.32NeoTronalthough I do plan to test a imp/shadow bolt build on the dummy tonight
22:02.39Gnarfozor 1-8 if you like, they're all mapped to shadow bolt anyway! :>
22:02.46harllol
22:04.02doom0rWOW....
22:04.15doom0ri just had a horrible experience in other's failure at logical reasoning
22:04.43doom0rmy neighbors put the back seat in on their astrovan managing to only put 3 of the four points in and lock it in place
22:04.44doom0rgg
22:05.15doom0rthey spent 2 hours try to fix it.... took me 20 seconds
22:07.16Antiarcplz give suggestions for additional sexymap configuration options
22:07.26AntiarcI'd like to have it nice and beefy before I tag a beta for syndication
22:07.40doom0r@project sexymap
22:07.41Repodoom0r: http://www.wowace.com/projects/sexymap/. SexyMap. Game: WoW. Leader: Antiarc. Updated: 15 minutes ago
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22:17.18ZhinjioNivFreak: ping
22:18.51`Zypherevening kiddos, this may or may not be old news
22:18.53`Zypherhttp://www.codeweavers.com/about/general/press/20081027/
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22:19.57Gnarfozahaha hilarious
22:20.08SaryaiSweet.
22:20.25SaryaiThat might just be enough to convince me to switch this box to linux. =D
22:20.45`Zypherindeed
22:21.29`Zypherscurries back to his waruidev channel
22:21.42SaryaiHate XP so much... Vista isn't horrible once you beat it into submission, but eh. Open source FTFW.
22:22.42Gnarfozhow can you hate xp more than vista
22:22.49Gnarfozthat's mindboggling
22:22.57`Zyphermindbottling*
22:23.34Gnarfozbrainnnnsss
22:23.41Saryai*shrug* Don't really know.
22:24.00`Zypherckknight: do we have purl in here?
22:24.06ckknight~ping
22:24.06purl~pong
22:24.10SaryaiI'll take linux over either any day, but if I have to use windows I prefer the feel of vista.
22:24.10ckknight~~~~
22:24.11purlARGH!!! STOP IT ckknight!!!
22:24.15Repo10mounted: 03yssaril 07master * 1.2.3b-1-ge11de8a / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] do not create Druid/Shaman frames if we don't need them (this will also solve the tiphooker problem)
22:24.20`Zypher~dance
22:24.21purl<(*.*<) <(*.*)> \(*.*)/ (>*.*)>
22:24.23SaryaiIt doesn't run so bad when you've got a decent machine
22:24.24`Zypheryay
22:24.24Repo10mounted: 03yssaril 041.2.4b * b87402e /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.2.4b
22:24.25ckknight`Zypher: why you hanging out in wowace?
22:24.37`Zypherckknight: I failed in my campaign to ignore wow forever.
22:24.43ckknightokay
22:24.52`Zypherwhy?
22:24.53ckknightwell, don't cause a ruckus
22:24.57ckknightthat's all
22:25.04AckisWorkcauses a ruckus
22:25.07AckisWorkahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
22:25.07`Zypherckknight: I'll try not to :(
22:27.46`ZypherAckisWork: am I a bad influence?
22:27.57AckisWorkmaybe ;)
22:28.17`Zypherthats too bad :(
22:29.43Dashkalthat lame duck page is total win
22:29.59thuldaaaalek
22:30.08Gnarfozwho's `Zypher and why would he be causing ruckusses?
22:30.09Gnarfoz;D
22:30.18`ZypherGnarfoz: warhammer addons :P
22:30.46Fisker-sanyone know if autoturnin still works?
22:30.57Gnarfozdoes
22:31.11Fisker-doesn't seem to do for argent dawn repeatables
22:31.19Fisker-or runecloth according to my friend
22:31.40Repo10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * 842c606 / (6 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
22:31.40Repo842c606: Added new mail indicator to buttons module
22:31.41Repo32e0b8f: Upvalue some globals
22:35.02*** join/#wowace Moddington (n=chatzill@d75-153-245-251.abhsia.telus.net)
22:36.59GnarfozFisker-: choose better friends, then
22:37.14Fisker-whatever do you mean mr. Gnarfoz?
22:37.20Zhinjiocan 'nil' be the default table passed to New (Acedb=3.0)?
22:37.30GnarfozFisker-: I implemented the AD support some days ago, runecloth was working the whole time
22:37.41Zhinjioso like self.db = LibStub( "AceDB-3.0" ): New( "SKG_DB", nil, "Default" )
22:37.52Fisker-AD still doesn't autocomplete here
22:38.20nevcairielZhinjio: if you dont want defaults, sure
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22:38.28Zhinjiowell, I set some later.
22:38.43Zhinjiothe thing I don't like about defaults is that if you have a default value, its not visible in your SV
22:38.50chiperso, I read that the plague has ended
22:38.50Zhinjioits a nit
22:38.58nevcairielthats part of the point of defaults 0P
22:39.04ZhinjioI know.
22:39.20Zhinjiobut it means that you can't tell what your value is by looking in your SV file (as a user)
22:39.34Zhinjioblah, I'm not going to argue this. Its just my pet peeve.
22:39.49ZhinjioI just wanted to know if that was valid. Thanks.
22:39.51nevcairielusers shouldnt look in SVs :D
22:40.03Xinhuannevcairiel, have you added libdbicon to bt yet?
22:40.21nevcairielnah i was too lazy/busy
22:40.54AntiarcI've tagged a SexyMap beta, you can grab it via the curse client now.
22:41.04Fisker-wats sexymap?
22:41.22Antiarchttp://www.wowace.com/projects/sexymap/images/
22:41.23ZhinjioThanks Antiarc
22:41.54Fisker-my eyes!
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22:46.12Repo10mounted: 03yssaril 07master * 1.2.4b-1-g8569d0b / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] fix Druid / Shaman support since i broke it to fix the TipHooker problem
22:46.22Repo10mounted: 03yssaril 041.2.5b * e5f6951 /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.2.5b
22:46.23Axodiousok, im totally confused about shared media, i use sharedmedia (called exactly that) for the roth border, it hasn't been updated since july on curse and doesnt exist on WI... i see like 4 different things calling themselves sharedmedia in one way or another, what is name of the current version of "sharedmedia"
22:46.31Moddingtonooh, sexy minimap
22:46.44Zhinjioin AceLocale-3.0 is there a way to test if a particular translation exists?
22:47.15YssarilAntiarc: thats sexy :P
22:48.21[Ammo]Zhinjio: L = LibStub("AceLocale-3.0"):GetLocale("omg")  if L["doesthisexist"] then print "yeah" end
22:48.34asmodaiwoot, got the argent dawn feat of strength! /flex
22:48.43nevcairielIt'll throw a warning, [Ammo]
22:48.43asmodaiKaelten: around?
22:48.55Zhinjio[Ammo]: thats what I was doing. Unfortunately, that is always returning true.
22:48.59[Ammo]nevcairiel: oh hrmf
22:49.10nevcairieland return the key as value :)
22:49.32[Ammo]hmm yeah
22:49.33[Ammo]well
22:49.40[Ammo]I guess it's silly to check for translations
22:49.42nevcairielthere is no way to test for existance of a translation
22:49.45[Ammo]stop abusing translations :p
22:50.53[Ammo]I should check code before barfing out bullshit
22:50.59asmodaiAntiarc: I'll give 'r a spin tomorrow
22:51.13thulHfB is a bit useless in pvp
22:51.15asmodaiulic: looks like the recent EBB doesn't show those tench errors
22:51.17XinhuanZhinjio: you need to use rawget()
22:51.28Zhinjioyikes.
22:51.34Zhinjiothat sounds dangerous.
22:51.35Xinhuanif rawget(L, "doesthisexist") then print "yeah" end
22:51.36asmodaioh guys, I am sure one of you know and it's probably very easy
22:51.43Xinhuanits very simple
22:51.46Zhinjioheh
22:51.47[Ammo]still abuse
22:51.58Xinhuanthat simply checks if L["doesthisexist"] exists
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22:52.05asmodaiwas reading some addon code (onebag3 in this case) and it sets up a frame and all that, and it has frame.isMoving = true at first
22:52.10Xinhuanwithout going through the __index metafunction
22:52.11asmodaiand later does: this.isMoving = false
22:52.16SaryaiSomeone mind telling me what's wrong with this? http://ace.pastey.net/99901
22:52.19asmodaihow come you suddenly can use 'this'?
22:52.21nevcairielyou should probably still rethink your design if you need abuse like that
22:52.22ulicasmodai: ok, I'll try it tonight anyways.
22:52.28asmodaiulic: please do!
22:52.47XinhuanSaryai: what's wrong with it?
22:52.48Saryaikeep getting "oUF_TaroParty.lua:129: Usage: UnitIsConnected("unit")" errors no matter what I try with it.
22:52.51Repo10dr-damage: 03Dally1991 06wrath-clone * r717 DrDamage.lua: DrDamage:
22:52.51Repo-Quick change to hopefully fix some issues reported by Macaroon users. (Thanks isidian!)
22:53.08LexSfXooh, nice.  Macaroon changes!  :D
22:53.14LexSfXSVN updating!
22:53.36SaryaiThat's like my tenth try on the code... was just checking UnitIsConnected(unit) before, trying the local approach now, but usage errors every try. =\
22:55.30Archarodimare you sure your not sending a non-string value to UnitIsConnected()?
22:55.58mitchnullanything special I should do to make InstanceMaps work with mapster?
22:56.15mitchnullI can select instances from a dropdown, but no map is shown
22:56.28SaryaiArcharodim: Using oUF's builtin unit code for it... sec while I look it up
22:59.49Repo10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * 6d2172f / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add AutoZoom module
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23:02.29SaryaiArcharodim: Can't find the exact funtion. x.x
23:02.36*** join/#wowace hax- (n=hax-@12.39.110.50.skytex.net)
23:02.56hax-I was looking for the WoWCombatLog.txt file, but I am unable to find this, is there a certain location this file is stored?
23:03.07Antiarcyour WoW directory/Logs
23:03.17hax-hum, didn't see it in there
23:03.24hax-is it written after the game is closed?
23:03.25AntiarcHave you logged anything?
23:03.34hax-yes, I did /combatlogs
23:03.39AntiarcIt's fully flushed when you logout
23:03.41hax-and it said it has started logging
23:03.42AntiarcThe command is /combatlog
23:03.44AntiarcOh, okay
23:04.08hax-even did a search for it on the pc, no results lol
23:04.56hax-hm
23:04.57hax-there it is..
23:05.11hax-it has showed up now
23:05.20hax-does this show what is attacking at the current second?
23:06.00nevcairielno, its buffered
23:06.30hax-ah
23:06.33hax-bummer..
23:06.46hax-I need a log that is to the second :s
23:06.55Gnarfozonly available in game
23:06.58nevcairielyou're out of luck, then
23:07.01AntiarcYou can only flush the combat log by logging out
23:08.19hax-hm
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23:10.05*** mode/#wowace [+o Funkeh`] by ChanServ
23:10.43Funkeh`hello
23:10.54Funkeh`man, burn after reading is confusing
23:11.19Fisker-you've been busted vhaarr
23:11.32Funkeh`Fisker-, so is your face
23:11.38Gnarfozoh oh
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23:11.57Funkeh`Meh, i'm not trying
23:12.00AntiarcHahahah
23:12.03AntiarcThe candies stack
23:12.10Gnarfozto 4
23:12.10Gnarfoz:\
23:12.12Fisker-not as busted as your mom though
23:12.13AntiarcMy level 6 addon development rogue has +49% spell hit right now
23:12.24Gnarfozyay inverse scaling
23:13.01tejingis the layout information for the chat frames stored server side now? I used to just copy around my chat and layout chaches when I made a new char.. that doesn't seem to be working now
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23:14.58Fisker-so Gnarfoz
23:15.16sylvanaari just bought a 360 to play fable 2, i hope it doesnt suck
23:15.29Fisker-it does
23:15.34AdirelleAntiarc: about libbars, I think the barLists initialization is messed up, I had to change some settings order in my client code to have the whole thing anchored properly
23:15.43sylvanaar...
23:15.43GnarfozFisker-: obviously.
23:16.13Fisker-what do you think will happen now when i go up to this argent dawn guy
23:16.16Fisker-and click him
23:16.23Fisker-1. Automatic turnin?
23:16.25Fisker-2. Nothing
23:16.27Fisker-3. ???
23:16.32Fisker-4. Profit?
23:16.37sylvanaar5. CTD
23:16.45Fisker-6. STD
23:16.47crookfingerjake5
23:16.55crookfingerjakefollowed by 6
23:17.09AdirelleCTD ? STD ???
23:17.13sylvanaar6 then 5
23:17.27sylvanaarSTD is what you think it is
23:17.36AntiarcAdirelle: What do you mean?
23:17.37crookfingerjakewell said
23:17.57Gagoriannevcairiel: Can you help me on a matter? What's the new standard way of getting an actionID from the button object?
23:18.17Gagoriannevcairiel: return SecureButton_GetModifiedAttribute(button,"action",SecureStateChild_GetEffectiveButton(button)) is probably outdated?
23:18.23nevcairielthere is a standard way`?
23:18.45AdirelleAntiarc: that I had to change :SetPoint, :ReverseGrowth and :UpdateOrientation call order to have 1) the button anchored correctly 2) the whole group anchored where it should
23:18.47GagorianWell, it used to work on most actionbar addons ;)
23:19.22nevcairielGagorian: actually thats still what blizzard does
23:19.32AdirelleAntiarc: wait, I'll pastey the changeset
23:19.40AntiarcI did change how the anchoring happened, because in practice I was finding the existing implementation to be very difficult to stick bars right where you wanted them
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23:19.58Gagoriannevcairiel: attempt to call upvalue 'SecureStateChild_GetEffectiveButton' (a nil value)
23:20.17nevcairielwasnt that always SecureButton_GetEffectiveButton ?
23:20.20nevcairieli thought it was =P
23:20.24Adirelleactually I think that not all anchoring code is called in initialization
23:20.28NivFreakZhinjio: you need me to test something?
23:20.29nevcairielwonder where you got your command
23:20.35Gagoriannevcairiel: well it used to work :D
23:20.38AdirelleI didn't dig into it though, that's a guess
23:21.00Gagoriannevcairiel: patch broke it or something
23:21.00GnarfozFisker-: whatever? AD turnin works
23:21.06nevcairielanyway, i finished my loremaster of kalimdor finally, so i can go to sleep now :9
23:21.17nevcairielGagorian: yeah just change to SecureButton_GetEffectiveButton
23:21.20nevcairielanyway, good night
23:21.26Gagoriannevcairiel: thanks
23:21.27FtH|Daemonanevcairiel o.O did you move the mapster button? ;)
23:21.28GnarfozFisker-: at least if you're talking about scourgestones. it doesn't do bone fragments crap
23:21.44Repo10clean-shot: 03TDW 04release * r39 : CleanShot: - bad tagging
23:21.51Repo10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander * r129 MiniPet.lua: MiniPet:
23:21.53Repo- Fix for clicking on Broker info
23:22.02FtH|DaemonaAckis something is wrong with ARL its listing i know 111 cooking patterns, but the achievement shows 113 ?
23:22.29Fisker-It only autocompletes the quest
23:22.58Gnarfoz@project auto-turnin
23:22.59RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/auto-turnin/. AutoTurnin. Game: WoW. Leader: grennon. Updated: 3 days ago
23:23.13NeoTronnevcairiel: are you a draenei? Someone in the guild is 14 quests short and can't find anything to do
23:23.14AdirelleAntiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/99902
23:23.27GnarfozFisker-: so you're saying you're using r76?
23:23.37AntiarcOh, I see
23:23.41AdirelleAntiarc: I moved the :Set from a else block that should be used only on reused groups to the end of my settings
23:23.41AntiarcI'll see if I can find what's up
23:23.55Fisker-I got the one curse client recognizes
23:24.05GnarfozFisker-: well, l2addons then
23:24.10vhaarrFisker-: wut?
23:24.14Fisker-awsum
23:24.21AdirelleI think the orientation is not completely taken into account in the NewBarGroup, or something like that
23:24.32Fisker-l2useversioningproperly
23:24.33Fisker->:3
23:24.45Adirelle(BTW, I had to swap some lines around to cope with the previous change too :p)
23:25.10Repo10clean-shot: 03TDW * r40 CleanShot.toc: CleanShot: -
23:25.11NeoTronvhaarr: so I must admit I really don't like the new ClosetGnome
23:25.15GnarfozFisker-: fuck off, tell grennon, it's not my addon
23:25.22Gnarfoz~seen grennon
23:25.25purlgrennon <n=jdawg@c-75-64-65-68.hsd1.tn.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10d 19h 55m 49s ago, saying: 'alright, when you create a new libdatabroker object, what does the "value" property do?'.
23:25.26vhaarrNeoTron: okay cool, tell me what's wrong with it
23:25.27NeoTronI will
23:25.28NeoTron:)
23:25.39Fisker-So
23:25.58Fisker-You can't actually download that version as it redirects to curse and curse doesn't have r76
23:26.02NeoTronvhaarr: First I miss not having the equip-from-tooltip. It's more cumbersome to go into the menu.
23:26.27Arrowmastergrrrrrr
23:26.30NeoTronvhaarr: the fact that I have to go to the interface options to configure the banker is the worse issue though. Also really dislike how it automatically stores stuff in the bank that's not checked as "keep"
23:26.40Arrowmasterfucking people riping mods they didnt even create
23:26.50NeoTronvhaarr: I kept trying to take an item from the bank that cg banker kept putting back in since it was in a set
23:27.03Arrowmasterjust deleted a 'Fubar_Skins' from curse that was a 100% copy of FuTextures
23:27.30NeoTronvhaarr: basically the functionality is similar but usability went down the drain
23:27.40kenlyrichey, I didn't steal gridstatusstrings. I totally changed a variable in the code.
23:27.54GnarfozFisker-: log in?
23:27.59vhaarrNeoTron: it should only flush once every 5 minutes to the bank
23:28.15NeoTronvhaarr: it didn't. as I said, I tried to take an item out and it kept putting it in
23:28.27*** part/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@catv3EC945BD.pool.t-online.hu)
23:28.28NeoTroneven so I don't want any automatic bank stuff a all
23:28.56vhaarrNeoTron: if you toggle the "Keep" options it resets the last flush timer
23:29.00vhaarrany of them
23:29.06NeoTronI hadn't
23:29.12vhaarrbugged then, I'll take a look
23:29.16NeoTronnot until I realized what it was doing
23:29.21NeoTronthe idea of autoflush is one I don't like
23:29.22Repo10clean-shot: 03TDW 04v1.3 * r41 : Tagging as v1.3.
23:29.32vhaarrperhaps you'd like it if it worked properly
23:29.39NeoTronoverall the usability is at a level where I'm considering trying other options right now
23:29.54NeoTronnot really I'm sorry to say. I like to be able to flush on command but never want it doing it for me
23:29.55vhaarrno reason to tell me that, it won't push me to change anything
23:30.14vhaarrin fact, it just pisses me off
23:30.26vhaarrbut yes, I agree with what you've said in any case
23:30.33NeoTronunderstood
23:30.38Repo10dr-damage: 03Dally1991 06wrath-clone * r718 DrDamage.lua: DrDamage:
23:30.39Repo-Dominos support! Old issues should be fixed!!
23:30.42kenlyriche doesn't write mods for users
23:30.50NeoTronthis is a case where a lack of a proper dropdown menu doesn't have the usability
23:30.51Gnarfoznobody does
23:30.52Gnarfozapparently
23:30.54kenlyriche writes mods to spite them
23:30.56vhaarrNeoTron: fact is, you're the first person to give me real feedback so
23:31.02*** join/#wowace hax- (n=hax-@12.39.110.50.skytex.net)
23:31.03hax-hm,
23:31.04NeoTronespecially since I can't click my LDB icon to jump to the config, so it's many clicks to get there
23:31.17vhaarrnow that I have user feedback that confirms exactly what I've been thinking myself
23:31.20vhaarrI can change things back
23:31.22hax-Anyone have any idea how to use the MessageHandler?
23:31.23kenlyricall the ldb icons are like that
23:31.29kenlyricI think it's ldb design or something.
23:31.34NeoTronI still love how lightweight it is
23:31.37vhaarrNeoTron: okay read what I've said, eod now, thanks for the input.
23:31.48Repo10heal-organizer: 03raegx * r64 / (3 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
23:31.49RepoHealOrganizer:
23:31.50Repo-embed for AceGui
23:31.51Repo-embed for CallbackHandler
23:31.53NeoTronI did read
23:31.55Repo-normalization of all prefixes for ChatThrottle
23:32.12NeoTronwhat we need is a proper libstubbed menu library I think
23:32.22vhaarrI'll be making libdewdrop3
23:32.27Gnarfozv5
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23:32.29Tristanianfor real ?
23:32.31NeoTronId likely be using it
23:32.32Tristanian!
23:32.44hax-They dont list any / commands on using this thing lol
23:32.46vhaarrnoone will like it but me
23:32.57Gnarfozmake LibTablet-7.0 while you're at it :P
23:33.09vhaarrsomeone is making LibTooltip for that
23:33.12Pneumatusdoes anyone know of a buff monitoring addon that allows you to specify certain buffs to watch for, and show a set of icons or something when they are active?
23:33.14vhaarrso I'm waiting for that to stabilize a bit
23:33.19Pneumatuslike to watch for clearcast procs or whatever
23:33.38GnarfozPneumatus: sounds like powerauras to me
23:33.39Repo10heal-organizer: 03raegx 04v2.3.2 * r65 : HealOrganizer:
23:33.40Repo-Includes proper embed missing in previous releases
23:33.41Repo-Whisper back functionality now works again
23:33.42Repo-Should no longer cause loading issues w/ other Ace-3.0 addons
23:33.44Gnarfozwhich means: Aurora
23:33.47Pneumatus(i dont want to replace my whole buff frames, just to watch certain buffs in addition to the normal buff bars)
23:33.59Gnarfozor whatever the most current incarnation of that is
23:34.32doom0rPneumatus: NeedToKnow
23:34.56Tristanianon a side note I think people expect too much from libtooltip :p
23:35.04Tristanianin reality its just an enchanced gametooltip
23:35.05hax-back
23:35.06hax-anyway
23:35.13hax-Has anyone ever used MessageEvent
23:35.19vhaarrTristanian: I expect clickable lines
23:35.28Tristanianthen you will be disappointed
23:35.34Tristanianno scrollbars either
23:35.38vhaarrthen what is the point if we don't have that?
23:35.41vhaarrfuck scrollbars
23:35.42Pneumatusdoom0r: thanks, TellMeWhen linked from that projects page looks more like what im after :)
23:35.42hax-I am trying to capture the combat log chatline
23:35.52Tristanianmultiple columns pretty much
23:36.05vhaarrguess I'll fork it then
23:36.07hax-anyone?
23:36.08hax-lol
23:36.25vhaarrhax-: messageevent doesn't deal with the combat log
23:36.37vhaarrit's very out of date anyway
23:36.42vhaarrhax-: what do you want to do?
23:36.49hax-bah
23:36.53Arrowmasteranybody know of a mod for keeping track of when mail on different characters is going to expire and disappear into the void?
23:37.01hax-I am trying to capture data from the combat log chatline and export it...
23:37.11vhaarrhax-: so register for COMBAT_LOG_EVENT?
23:37.22Groktarimo, the best place to experiement with css stuff you don't understand is on a live site
23:37.38NeoTronor are you just looking for /combatlog logging?
23:37.39doom0rPneumatus: i never looked at that line, that's exactly what i need for my pally
23:37.41doom0rthanks!
23:37.42hax-I was trying to hook to the combat log so there is no delay in updating the logging
23:37.59NeoTronnot exactly clear what "logging" is
23:38.01vhaarrhook, delay, logging?
23:38.01Pneumatusdoom0r: i've got enough candybars going on, some nice little icons should do the trick instead :)
23:38.04hax- /combatlog has to much of a delay, so I was just going to hook/export
23:38.06hax-e.g.
23:38.11NeoTronexport to where?
23:38.13vhaarrwhat delay?
23:38.26NeoTronyou can't write to a file from an addon
23:38.36hax-a troll attacks me "You were attacked by "Troll"  [script: exports to "c:\my\log.txt" file upon that event happening"
23:38.36NeoTronor otherwise export from outside of wow
23:38.44NeoTronso use /combatlog
23:38.48NeoTronthat's your only option
23:38.52Arrowmasteryou cant do that
23:38.55hax-again...combatlog has big delay
23:38.59NeoTrontoo bad?
23:39.00vhaarrwhat delay?
23:39.04NeoTronvhaarr: it's buffered
23:39.13vhaarrof course the writes are buffered
23:39.17hax-hm
23:39.20vhaarranything else would be torture for the file system
23:39.22NeoTronright
23:39.27vhaarrdoes it actually write the combatlog in realtime?
23:39.30NeoTronnot saying it's bad, just explaining what hax- meant
23:39.31vhaarrI thought it only did that on reloadui
23:39.35NeoTronreal time
23:39.37vhaarraha
23:39.41vhaarrhax-: there's nothing you can do
23:39.43hax-no, the combat log doesn't update for like 1 min lol
23:39.49vhaarrhax-: live with it, end of discussion
23:39.50hax-damn
23:39.52hax-dummer
23:39.55XinhuanArrowmaster: bankitems tracks mail expiry, but it doesn't give warnings ;p
23:39.56NeoTronbut it never actually closes/flushes the log once started
23:39.56hax-bummer*
23:39.57hax-lol
23:40.01Arrowmasteryou CAN NOT export data out of wow
23:40.03Arrowmasterin realtime
23:40.13NeoTronI mean it won't close the log until you log out, even if you disable logging with /combatlog
23:40.29hax-oh well ;p
23:40.37ArrowmasterXinhuan: maybe ill just patch up the hooks in OfflineMail
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23:40.45Arrowmasterive been using that since like 1.x
23:40.46Xinhuanhaha
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23:40.48NeoTronwas annoying to have to log out of WoW to flush the combat log back when I played on Windows
23:40.51Arrowmasterit never got updated for 2.x
23:40.56Tristanianwtf
23:41.03TristanianOfflineMail still works ? :o
23:41.12XinhuanNeoTron: intended, to avoid read/writes to file
23:41.13Arrowmasteri was using it in 2.4
23:41.24Xinhuanso it does big writes at once while in a while
23:41.24Tristaniangive link or upload somewhere ;P
23:41.27NeoTronXinhuan: I am aware
23:41.33Arrowmasterheh
23:41.37Xinhuanonce* in a while
23:41.38Arrowmasteri have no clue where i got it from
23:41.45Tristanianthat addon was sweet back in the day
23:41.45NeoTronXinhuan: but when you explicedly diable combat logging with /combatlog, it should close the file or at the very least flush it
23:41.57TristanianI think I accidentally trashed it, then I couldnt find it anywhere
23:41.58Xinhuanit doesn't, because if it did, ppl would abuse it
23:42.02Tristaniannot a working version that is
23:42.04Xinhuanby /combatlog toggling
23:42.13NeoTronXinhuan: so... they would... abuse their own performance
23:42.16NeoTronand I care why?
23:42.26Pneumatus__MACOSX folders need to diaf
23:42.30Xinhuanit matters because that allows real time updates to a source outside wow
23:42.33NeoTronyou can't inject stuff into the combat log can you?
23:42.34Xinhuanwhich is not allowed
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23:42.47Xinhuanppl used to use keybinds to abuse this
23:43.06Xinhuanpreviously, changing keybinds and clicking OK immediately saves the changes to disk
23:43.09Xinhuanthis was abused
23:43.09NeoTronbut what would you abuse in this case? cast spells in a specific order to indicate that you want to change mp3 track? :P
23:43.26Xinhuanlol
23:43.44Xinhuanits abusable for botting
23:43.46Xinhuanleveling bots
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23:43.46NeoTronI can understand key bindings since you can inject specific data in a known fashion
23:44.05Xinhuanbots can read the combat log if flushed real time, then react accordingly
23:44.09NeoTronah wlel macs don't have an issue
23:44.23NeoTronsince they don't have the "already opne zomg" issue windows has
23:45.19JaxonThis is an interesting conversation sicne it relates to something I was having earlier today.  Trying to find a suitable way to automatically breakup the singular combatlog.txt file into "events."
23:45.29JaxonRather, not trying, but brainstorming an effective way to do it
23:45.49Xinhuanjaxon, detecting rezzing would be a good way
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23:45.53Repo- fixed GROUP -> RAID in comms call
23:45.54Repo- misc minor fixes
23:45.55Xinhuansince that indicates "out of combat"
23:46.00Xinhuanfor boss fights at least
23:46.12Xinhuanand i don't mean combat rezzing
23:46.28JaxonXinhuan: cool suggestion, but I was thinking more along the lines of a single evening.  You could go by date, but only if you ended before midnight.
23:46.56NeoTronshouldn't be too hard - detect long gaps in events?
23:46.56Xinhuanheh
23:47.05NeoTronlonger than a configurable threshold I guess
23:47.13Xinhuanyeah, well WWS detects its stuff by having a list of known bosses
23:47.19Xinhuanand if there is say a gap of time
23:47.34NeoTronWWS is stupid and should be able to handle >24 hrs :P
23:47.36Xinhuanbetween a boss being engaged, it separates the log
23:47.39Fisker-<3 scourge event
23:47.46Fisker-exalted with AD in 2 days from honored
23:47.46Xinhuaninto multiple attempts
23:47.49JaxonNeoTron: I think that is there more for a file size limit.
23:48.02NeoTronJaxon: design issue
23:48.05Xinhuanand 1 minute is a reasonable amount of time usually
23:48.14NeoTronJaxon: they store each report as a single unit, that is somehow loaded all into memory
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23:48.31JaxonNeoTron: I haven't actually looked at it much, I never enjoyed ... all into memory, how absolutely retarded.
23:48.43doom0rFisker-: Janice + Shield Spike was 2 hours
23:48.45NeoTronit's my guess based on comments from the author
23:48.58doom0rJandice*
23:49.00NeoTronand he seems to store it in a file (xml, flatfile, not sure) somehow rather than a database. again based on comments
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23:49.08NeoTronI obviously have no idea
23:49.14JaxonI wonder how quickly I could write a personal replacement with perl or something and just hand it off to a guildmate to do all the formatting.
23:49.39JaxonNeoTron: I think the logs themselves are stored, that way they can be reparsed for updates to the WWS engine.
23:49.43NeoTronyou could make such a better WWS. wish I had the time and resources to do it
23:50.04JaxonYou know what, I think I will.
23:50.12NeoTroncross-fight correlation for example
23:50.24NeoTron"compare person's X dps on boss Y for the past month"
23:50.45NeoTron<PROTECTED>
23:50.57FroMasterAnyone familiar with Manufac by Nymbia? Great mod but not updated since 3.0.2 and throws a bunch of errors. What's a good TradeSkill mod that will show you all the tradeskills, craftable items and mats required?
23:51.00NeoTronI wanted that back when I was trying to figure out why my mages sucked (see if they ran OOM for example)
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23:54.00Gnarfozthere's already at least one open source wws clone in perl
23:54.08Gnarfoznot nearly as usable yet, though, imho
23:54.26Gnarfozand someone keeps perking up when it's name is mentioned and says: "but it's slow as hell"
23:54.29Gnarfoz:D
23:54.42JaxonGnarfoz: I think because anyone who is going to start writing things in Perl isn't going to have the patience to make it look pretty like the WWS guy has.
23:54.49JaxonDo you have a link or a project name?
23:54.52Gnarfozsure
23:54.55Gnarfozstasiscl
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23:56.00JaxonI dont' see how it could be slower than a client-server model if it is generating the HTML on the local machine.
23:56.12NeoTronmaybe it's badly written?
23:57.02Gnarfozhe was talking about factor 5 slower or something
23:57.03GnarfozoO
23:57.18GnarfozI never tried to have it parse a log, so I couldn't say, myself
23:57.29GnarfozI should grep logs to see who that was ^^
23:59.17Arrowmasterwell what do you expect
23:59.29Arrowmasteryour doing the parsing yourself instead of letting a server somewhere else do it
23:59.44JaxonGnarfoz: thanks for the link.

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