IRC log for #wowace on 20081017

00:00.09Daemoenthats whats bugging me, lol
00:00.09DashkalOk, who was it who decided that "its" is the possessive and "It's" is "it is"  I get that backwords every time </rant>
00:00.37DaemoenDashkal: always goes with contraction before possession
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00:00.43fropmmmh
00:00.50Dashkalyeah yeah I know I know.  I just hate that word
00:00.52Daemoenall contractions require the ' for proper denoting.
00:00.54Daemoennods.
00:00.55Daemoenme too :-D
00:01.00fropdoes makerocketsgonow need some dep?
00:01.11DashkalI really just want to use the ' for both usages and let context define it
00:01.37Daemoenlol, that would make too much sense though :)
00:01.48DashkalIf we can figure out minute (time) and minute (quantity) we should be able to split possessive its from contracted it is
00:01.49DaemoenAntiarc: curiously, whats up with the page icons in chatter now?
00:01.58Balstor~last Roartindon
00:02.06Balstor~seen Roartindon
00:02.07purlroartindon <n=jtlim@cm32.delta200.maxonline.com.sg> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 228d 14h 27m 18s ago, saying: 'Because it receives one parameter sometimes, two parameters at others'.
00:02.25frop~seen Apoco
00:02.25purlapoco <i=Apoco@adsl-99-162-57-237.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 84d 18h 11m 15s ago, saying: 'Arrowmaster: pm'.
00:02.33Balstorhmmm so is aloft going to be able to work again?
00:02.44fropand RBM? :(
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00:15.07Balstorthe curren aloft can be found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10864-AloftBeta.html  apparently there is a new maintainer
00:15.22alcarasin Talented, where'd the option go to import a spec from a talent calculator?
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00:17.58alcarasand why won't the Rock icon stay hidden? :(
00:18.03Repo10libfubarplugin-3-0: 03Arrowmaster * r60 LibFuBarPlugin-3.0.lua:
00:18.04RepoAdd support for configType 'None' which will register RightButtonUp for OnFuBarClick
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00:21.53ckknightArrowmaster: I added you as an author
00:22.28Arrowmaster?
00:23.57ckknightto libfubarplugin-3-0
00:24.39linear`whats that map mod daemoen has
00:24.52vhaarrckknight: why are all my projects being marked as stale on wowace.com, could you change that please?
00:25.05ckknightvhaarr: bump your tocs to 30000
00:25.08vhaarrckknight: I did
00:25.11ckknightweird
00:25.13vhaarrand I released a beta
00:25.17ckknightlink me one of your projects?
00:25.19vhaarrbut not a "Release"
00:25.25vhaarrwowace.com/projects/closetgnome
00:25.54vhaarrckknight: this happens to all my projects, and there are quite a few of them
00:25.55vhaarrnot just that one
00:26.17elite3vilI still can't get CG to work.. haven't bothered playing with it enough to figure out why though.
00:26.22ckknightah
00:26.28ckknightthe issue is that the default file is an old, non-3.0 version
00:26.36Kody-ckknight: you've got mail
00:26.41vhaarryes but you see, I don't care
00:26.48vhaarrthey're still not stale
00:27.04vhaarrso please remove the flag and make my projects immune to it
00:27.09Brunersanyone got a working oUF layout with textures for showing combo points?
00:27.11vhaarrthis is the *second* time it has happened, you see
00:27.17vhaarrlast 2 days ago or so
00:28.04ckknightKody-: all sorted
00:28.13ckknightvhaarr: it happens automatically
00:28.18vhaarryes so STOP it?
00:28.25ckknightvhaarr: but the default version isn't up-to-date
00:28.50ckknightthus falling under the definition of out of date
00:28.52vhaarrthere's no "but", there's just what I tell you, they're not fucking stale
00:29.03vhaarrso, do what you will, I've said my case
00:29.03ckknightk, hang on
00:31.27Repo10enhanced-colour-picker: 03Jncl * r42 / (21 files in 7 directories): EnhancedColourPicker: Updated .pkgmeta for library links
00:31.28Repo- Updated TOC & LUA for packager directives
00:31.29krkaRepo: LUA, what's that? Did you mean to say Lua?
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00:32.28nymbialUa?
00:32.36Repo10range-display: 03mitch0 07multi-frame2 * r160 / (2 files in 1 directory): added focus frame. probably a bit overengineered...
00:32.48Repo10ld50_ap: 03shaten * r34 LD50_ap.toc: LD50_ap:
00:32.49Repo- updated toc
00:35.32Stanzillahaha
00:35.32Repo10proccer: 03golgataner * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): Initial Upload
00:35.37Stanzillahe commited the libs directory with it
00:35.52Arrowmasterits jncl
00:35.55Arrowmasterwhat do you expect
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00:36.01Arrowmasterhes a fucking moron
00:36.21StanzillaI need this addon so I won't complain now :P
00:36.25Stanzilla*fixed
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00:37.04Arrowmasterthats on my list of things to rewrite, you know so something that simple doesnt use the entire Ace2 framework
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00:37.19NivFreakis it just me, or is the default chat window in 3.0 horribly buggy
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00:37.22Stanzillaprobably a good idea
00:37.52Arrowmasterim also not british so by rewrite i mean make a new one using an american english name too
00:38.11Repo10proccer: 03golgataner * r3 Proccer.lua: Updated one Buff
00:38.40StanzillaPimpedUpColorChooser inc? :P
00:40.37WobWorkhehe
00:44.32Repo10broker2fubar: 03Arrowmaster * r24 / (8 files in 2 directories):
00:44.32RepoRightclicks now passed to LDB plugin, use /b2f to configure the FuBar plugins
00:44.33RepoUses LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 instead of LibFuBarPlugin-Mod-3.0
00:44.46ArrowmasterPrimer: THERE YOU FUCKING HAPPY NOW
00:46.09sztanpet<3
00:46.28RaydenUnidoes lacerate do threat even if you have 5 applied?
00:46.43StanzillaArcharodim: K NOW COLOR CHOOSER NEXT, KTHXBYE!
00:46.45Stanzilla^^
00:46.47Stanzillaoops
00:46.54StanzillaArrowmaster: that's for you hunny :)
00:46.56NivFreakhrmm
00:47.01NivFreakso the server side macros thing
00:47.12NivFreakmine are different between machines...
00:47.26Repo10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 07master * RC1-6-gc3b683e / (9 files in 3 directories): [+5 commits] (1 truncated)
00:47.27Repoc3b683e: Fix VGrip1Ratio error that occurs when completing a drag and Omen incorrectly attempts to hide itself.
00:47.29Repo89d0250: Add option to color your own threat bar to a color of your choice.
00:47.33Repo3451a1d: Fixed missing localization entry for "Passed %s%% of %s's threat!"
00:47.37Repo228dc6c: Add zhTW localization from Hekylin.
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00:50.20Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r30 / (5 files in 1 directory): Updated for the WoW 3.0.2 patch.
00:50.37alcarasgrr, the rock icon won't stay hidden
00:51.06Repo10broker2fubar: 03Arrowmaster * r25 Broker2FuBar.toc:
00:51.07RepoDidn't mean to bump the version to 1.1 when 1.0 hasn't been 'released' yet
00:51.08elite3vilalcaras: or stay where I put it, it keeps defaulting back to the spot over the tracking every time I relog.
00:51.18alcaraselite3vil: i know, it is slowly driving me insane
00:51.41elite3vilIt might bother me a bit more, if I could... you know.. login.
00:51.44alcarascurse updater apparently updates only release versions, which means i can't get alphas or betas with it :(
00:51.57elite3vilI'm pretty sure there's a checkbox for that somewhere.
00:52.01Hjaltealcaras: You can get betas last I checked.
00:52.12alcarasHjalte: but not alphas, so i have to manually update
00:52.34NivFreakbtw, is tremor totem raid wide now?
00:52.40Hjaltealcaras: Not alphas, yes, but those shouldn't be necessary for the normal user anyway. Although I do agree it would be nice to let us choose.
00:52.59Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.1 * r31 : Tagging as v2.1
00:52.59alcarasHjalte: normally i wouldn't want alphas, but right now alphas are the only versions that fix errors :-/
00:53.30Repo10broker2fubar: 03Arrowmaster 041.0 * r26 : Tagging as 1.0.
00:53.57alcarasi also hate how curse client has no idea of mods i've manually installed
00:54.15Arrowmasterno updater will
00:54.20Arrowmasteror atleast will properly
00:54.41NivFreakAll you need is an ignore list :)
00:54.43alcaraspretty sure WAU used to know what was installed; I know JWU used to before this update
00:54.59Torhal_JWU still did know - it just didn't know what VERSION
00:55.20Arrowmasteralcaras: i bumped the file from alpha to beta on librockconfig
00:55.21Torhal_So you had to install through JWU (even if you had current already) for it to know your version
00:55.25alcarasArrowmaster: thank you
00:55.31alcarasArrowmaster: does that fix the icon?
00:55.45Kilroounfortunately, the WoWI updater doesn't seem to be working for me.
00:55.58Arrowmaster01:28:34p (Repo) librockconfig-1-0: Arrowmaster * r395 / (2 files in 1 directory): DIE ADDON PREFERENCES BUTTON DIE!
00:56.00Arrowmasterguess
00:56.05alcarashrm, how would i update librockconfig if i don't see it listed in curse client?
00:56.09KilrooWhich is a shame, since WoWI is where I prefer to get my addons.
00:56.17alcarasKilroo: they're working on a new version
00:56.30Kilrooalcaras: Doesn't help me much now.
00:56.51alcarasKilroo: You can theoreteically set up JWoWupdater to do it, but WoWi is blocking multiple requests which means i can't get it working
00:57.07alcaras(nor can i open many tabs on WoWI quickly without getting an error message)
00:57.30alcarasArrowmaster: thanks; i'll just get it from http://www.wowace.com/projects/librockconfig-1-0/files/
00:57.34Kilrooalcaras: I was using WUU. I'm getting by one way or another.
00:58.33alcarasgrr, even after is et LibRockConfig to Beta, curse updater still doesn't see it :(
00:58.46alcarastime for manual install :(
00:59.32Axodioushow is jwowupdater?
00:59.32sztanpetthe packager still has to package it for it to show up im guessing
01:00.28Repo10proccer: 03golgataner * r4 / (2 files in 1 directory): some Edits
01:00.35sztanpetbroker2fubar just landed btw
01:01.31Arrowmasterthe packager runs about every minute
01:01.48Arrowmasterbut then you have to wait for the syndication to happen before it will appear on curse
01:01.51alcarasIncomingHealsLib-1.0 requires AceComm-2.0
01:02.03alcaraslooks like it's time to manually install acecomm-2.0 i guess...
01:02.06Arrowmastertheres a more recent one
01:02.20alcarasapparently there's no acecomm: http://www.wowace.com/projects/?search=acecomm
01:02.25NeoTronit's part of Ace2
01:02.26Arrowmasterits in ace2
01:02.44alcarasis there something other than incominghealslib i should be using?
01:02.47alcarasthat is ace3 happy?
01:03.17fewynwtb drdamage replacement
01:03.42NeoTronwould need significant rewrites for 3.0
01:03.53NeoTronbut that's pretty obvious
01:05.06fewynyea
01:05.15fewynif i was any good at lua i'd totally do it
01:05.19liquidzooOk, strange problem I'm wondering if anyone else has had...In the middle of my tooltips, all of a sudden, is what looks like a health bar with some weird text on the left side.  Anyone have any ideas?
01:07.16Repo10capping: 03Pastamancer * r155 / (2 files in 1 directory): Capping:
01:07.17Repo- Updated externals
01:07.18Repo- Bugfixes for 3.0
01:07.19Repo- Only tested in EotS
01:09.52Repo10baggins_usable: 03Nayala 042008-10-16 * r35 : Tagging as 2008-10-16.
01:14.54Repo10baggins_usable: 03Nayala * r36 Baggins_Usable.lua: Oops forgot to remove an old file.
01:15.28digmouseLF a mod that can track my loading and reloading time
01:15.56Arrowmasterwarmup
01:16.03digmousewarmup taints hard
01:16.19AeyanAnyone else having a Gathermate + Routes issue?
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01:17.41Repo10critters: 03yssaril 07master * 6ec3469 / (13 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] change name to Critters
01:18.35Repo10skillet: 03StingerSoft * r142 / (3 files in 2 directories): Skillet:
01:18.36Repo-
01:18.37Repoadded ruRU localization
01:19.23Repo10critters: 03yssaril 07master * 79f936b .pkgmeta: [+1 commit] fix .pkgmeta
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01:25.16chiperwhat's the best method currently for getting data into gathermate?
01:25.38chiperlike, a wowhead dump
01:26.06Xinhuanwowdb dump is in GatherMate_Data
01:26.22sylvanaarJygga theres nothing wrong with prat - you are installing using the svn arent you
01:26.36Jyggaim using cc
01:26.44chiperthanks Xinhuan
01:26.46sylvanaarno waiz
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01:27.09Jyggapromise
01:27.49elite3vilprat seems like it's working fine to me, installed using the CC
01:28.10sylvanaarme too, in fact, i have been using the CC version on live just now
01:28.21sylvanaarwhat is the problem again?
01:28.23chiperthe new prat left me feeling confused.  switched over to chatter
01:28.32sylvanaarthats ok
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01:29.57sylvanaarits more helpful Jygga if you make bug reports, than just say things are bugged.
01:30.44Brunersmy addons are bugged, please fix them sylvanaar
01:30.47sylvanaaryou can post a ticket from the link on this page http://www.wowace.com/projects/prat-3-0/
01:30.57sylvanaarsure Bruners
01:31.00JyggaPrat-3.0-3.0 (Beta Version) \modules\PlayerNames.lua:1218: Cannot find a library instance of "AceTab-3.0".
01:31.02sylvanaarwaves wand
01:31.24sylvanaarJygga do you have Prat_Libraries-3.0?
01:31.44elite3vilsylvanaar: I definitely like the nifty little copy button in the top-left corner.
01:32.08alcarasAeyan: What sort of issue?
01:32.29Jyggaisnt that LoD ?
01:32.32sylvanaarelite3vil its better now, it can copy the entire frame
01:32.38sylvanaarJygga is it enabled?
01:32.45sylvanaarand no its not LoD
01:32.53elite3vilYeah, I know, that's what I like about it! =)
01:33.07Jyggaokay then that might be the problem :)
01:33.15sylvanaar=)
01:33.35Arrowmastersylvanaar: its better than the prat2 one?
01:33.50sylvanaaryes Arrowmaster, i improved it
01:34.22Aeyanalcaras: I can't create new routes. I get an error in the Gathermate plugin of Routes when I try.
01:34.23sylvanaarthe old one had limit to the number of lines it could get
01:34.53sylvanaarim not sure what this ones limit is
01:35.03AeyanI haven't wiped my sv's yet or anything. I was just wondering if anyone else was having an issue.
01:35.22chipergrr, pitbulls bitching about colorConstants.
01:35.40alcarasAeyan: I did a fresh install and didn't have issues creating routes; couldn't add vertices to the taboo areas though
01:36.50AeyanGonna delete my sv's and see if that fixes anything
01:36.52alcarasAeyan: just rename, don't delet
01:37.08Repo10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 04RC2 * 59f0816 /: [new tag] Fix VGrip1Ratio error that occurs when completing a drag and Omen incorrectly attempts to hide itself.
01:37.17AeyanBy 'delete', I mean move out of my savedvariable folder =P
01:37.20AeyanHehe
01:38.41alcarasInterface\FrameXML\StaticPopup.lua:809 attempt to index local 'self' (a nil value) <-- when I die. not sure what's causing it :/
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01:39.03alcarasanyone run across that error and know what causes it?
01:39.46chiperXinhuan: is the r185 build of routes safe to use?
01:40.19Xinhuanits safe, but its not updated for 3.0.2 yet
01:40.24Xinhuan1 or 2 things are broken
01:40.29Xinhuanlike right click menus
01:40.35Xinhuanfor vertex creation of taboos
01:40.35Arrowmasteralcaras: its caused by out of date addons
01:40.39chiperhmm, k
01:40.49Arrowmasteralcaras: the solution is to disable everything not updated for 3.0
01:41.07alcarasArrowmaster: Any idea how to isolate it down to a particular mod?
01:41.12Arrowmasterno
01:41.27chiperalcaras: trial and error.  enjoy your repair bills
01:42.14alcarasalright, well, thanks
01:42.21chiperdamnit, pitbull power bar is still bitching
01:42.28chipergonna have to revert
01:43.01AeyanHmm, yeah, still giving me the same error.
01:43.07AeyanI need to keep poking around
01:44.32alcaraswhat's it mean when an addon is red in the addon list but it doesn't say it is out of date
01:44.39AeyanLoD
01:44.39chiperfuck, the old one is doing it too.  what the hell
01:44.46liquidzoothat Blizz messed something up
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01:45.33alcarasGrid/MissingBuffs -- looking for Blessing of Light -- (which doesn't exist)
01:45.37Repo10lib-st: 03ddumont * r16 Core.lua: lib-st:
01:45.38Repocell, column, row coloring.  and column sorting.
01:45.42chiperShefki: what did you break?
01:46.57Brunershttp://pastey.net/98513 is this looking correct?
01:49.29liquidzooBagnon no longer gives you a count of how many items your toons have in the bank/backpack?  Weird.
01:49.40CivrockAnybody have a clue what could be causing a significantly higher ping in-game than in a traceroute to the server IP?
01:50.54chipera slow computer that cant run wow?
01:51.19Hjalteliquidzoo: It's because of the problems with LOD addons I believe.
01:51.22chiperahah!  the packager strikes again.  old version of librock in the pitbull downloads
01:51.43Civrockchiper: Uhh, unlikely with a capped 100 FPS in IF.
01:51.49Hjalteliquidzoo: Hence wow doesn't load the addons telling you how many items you have, but it should load it again in 3.0.3
01:52.04liquidzooHjalte:  Ok.  Just weird that I never realized how much I used it before.
01:52.28Hjalteliquidzoo: You can use BankItems meanwhile, it also reports what you have in the mail, which I like.
01:53.51liquidzooI'll check it out.
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01:55.23Shefkichiper: ?
01:55.26pastamancerCivrock: your traceroute stops at ATT ENS's border, you're not getting all the way to the wow server when you do that
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01:56.28chiperShefki: never mind, it wasnt you
01:56.34Shefkia
01:56.59chiperpitbull was tripping over rock
01:58.35Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r261 modules/TargetInfo.lua:
01:58.36Repo- probable fix for debuffs appearing as "own buff size" when they shouldn't have
01:58.57alcarasWhat happened to Talented's import template from wowhead/blizz option?
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02:00.55Shefkichiper: I'm not doing anything to PitBull until that gets resolved.  Tired of everyone blaming me for that crap
02:01.34chiperlol
02:02.13KilrooWell, I've downloaded a bunch of crap
02:02.24KilrooI think I'll leave trying to make it work for another day.
02:03.24KilroooUF and cargoShip sound promisingly fun to screw up with.
02:03.41KilrooCome home from a long day of coding and do some...er...coding.
02:03.45Kilroonight folks
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02:05.05Shefkichiper: Mistake I made last night was thinking it was a good idea to fix Rock bugs.
02:05.31ShefkiSo of course then when I fix more PitBull stuff after that it gets a new rock and the world blows up and clearly it's my fault the libraries aren't gracefully upgrading.
02:06.51Arrowmasterthats because you arent suppost to touch rock
02:07.02Arrowmasterits broken
02:07.54KemayoIt's sort of fun seeing all the hilighted messages about my addons over the last few days.
02:10.02Repo10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 * r5 / (2 files in 1 directory):
02:10.02Repo* Incorporated Dridzt's suggestions about only updating the tracking provided
02:10.03Repo- Target isn't dead
02:10.05Repo- Target can be attacked
02:10.43Repo10dictator: 03JoshBorke 07master * 0.1-30000-1-ga5b88b4 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] more tweaks
02:11.02KriLL3"Shefki: ...it's my fault the libraries aren't gracefully upgrading" GET HIM! >_<
02:11.25Repo10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 041.3 * r6 : Tagging 1.3 to get the smarter autotrack out there asap.
02:14.23AeyanFound my routes culprit
02:14.26AeyanIt's AddonLoader
02:14.30AeyanNot sure why though
02:14.56AeyanOther than the obvious 'something to do with LoD'
02:16.45Repo10libtooltip: 03Torhal * r2 LibTooltip-0.1.lua: Initial commit.
02:16.53Repo10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03StingerSoft * r110 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: Updated ruRU WoLk zone names
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02:20.02grennononebag3 is on the curse website but you cant find it with the search in the updater
02:20.20grennonanyone using onebag3 yet? is it alright?
02:20.43Repo10dictator: 03JoshBorke 040.2-30000 * 5a8a952 /: [new tag] more tweaks
02:20.55JoshBorkei heard it works fine
02:21.01Repo10medley: 03Kiralyn * r7 / (4 files in 1 directory):
02:21.01RepoUpdated to 3.0, added new "Achivement Earned" sound and a DataBroker launcher!
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02:28.50Repo10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r90 Coconuts.lua: Coconuts:
02:28.51Repo- Commented out some code to test if its breaking
02:29.19Repo10critters: 03yssaril 07master * 8c6269b / (11 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits]
02:29.20Repo8c6269b: trimmed down all locale files
02:29.20Repoa1df27e: combat macro should be fully working now (is disabled by default)
02:29.22Repoad65d09: fix toc
02:29.31Repo10critters: 03yssaril 041.0.0b * d6c2659 /: [new tag] trimmed down all locale files
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02:30.01alcarasAllPlayed: 1096: attempt to concatenate field '?' ( a nil value )
02:30.05alcarasusing the latest version :(
02:33.53ArrowmasterAeyan: it shouldnt be addonloader
02:34.14AeyanWell, disabling addonloader fixes the issue
02:34.28Repo10libbabble-class-3-0: 03StingerSoft * r46 LibBabble-Class-3.0.lua: updated ruRU (added Death Knight class)
02:35.39break19Arrowmaster: addonloader isn't the problem.. the problem is bliz, but addonloader does lod, which is broken, so therefore, using addonloader = broke stuff until 3.0.3
02:35.48AeyanSomething like that, heh
02:36.01Arrowmasterexcept that part of LoD isnt broken
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02:36.35break19but the wife has sighed sleepily about 3 times.. thats my clue to log out so she can sleep. (PC is in the bedroom)
02:36.39break19night all
02:36.53Ackisanyone have a forum post for me on what to do with bugsack?
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02:37.32Torhal_Install an LDB display or Broker2FuBar
02:37.33AeyanWith addonloader enabled, when I go to Add a route to Routes the Gathermate database list doesn't appear below the source checkboxes immediately. If I uncheck and recheck the box, they do but when I click Create it throws an error.
02:37.40Repo10medley: 03Kiralyn * r8 / (5 files in 3 directories): Oops, forgot LibDataBroker-1.1!
02:37.49Torhal_Ackis: IF you're using FuBar
02:37.50AeyanDisabled, the list is there immediately and creation is fine
02:38.11Torhal_If you're missing a minimap icon instead, grab Barrel (LDB display for minimap)
02:38.11AckisTorhal_: yes was using fubar didn't know that it was switched over... suggestions on a good ldb display?
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02:44.42LukianAckis, broker2fuber or statblocks?
02:44.56ArrowmasterAntiarc: i think i found the bug in chatter
02:45.21ArrowmasterAckis: fix Collectinator(sp?)
02:46.26AckisArrowmaster: it's in alpha, no gui, fixing other stuff when I get time to (sorry i don't even have time to play wow anymore =/)
02:46.36Ackisi got a new kitten, we named him murky
02:47.08Arrowmasterthe most broken part of it was your damn datamining script
02:47.36Ackisit was a work in progress :P I was in the US when 3.02 hit, wasn't prepared, sorry
02:48.11Ackisi'm literally going through wow doing small things with 0 talents spent
02:49.04ArrowmasterAntiarc: OMG
02:49.13ArrowmasterAntiarc: i deffently found the bug
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02:49.33JoshBorkeArrowmaster: pastey or it didn't happen
02:49.45Arrowmastertext = text:gsub("(|Hplayer:([^:]+)([:%d+]*)|h%[(.-)%]|h)(.-)$", changeName)
02:50.11Arrowmasterbug only happens on players with GUIDs containing only numbers
02:50.12JoshBorkehm, addonloader works for me
02:50.15Arrowmasterguess why
02:50.29JoshBorkegreedy numbers are greedy
02:50.56JoshBorkei actually have no idead what you're talking about :D
02:51.15Arrowmasteryeah, simple fix is to change the ([^:]+) to ([^:]-)
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02:51.44Arrowmastersince it was actually matching two |H|h|h links
02:51.57Arrowmasterbecause of the greedy expansion
02:52.02Aiianecute
02:52.26Arrowmastersince achievement links contain the player GUID and a bunch of numbers
02:52.31LegorolHi folks, how can I quickly and easily tell which version of a library ends up active when I have a bunch of AddOns installed that embed different versions of the library, as well as having standalone versions of some libs installed?
02:52.45BalstorLinens 'n Things goes bye-bye
02:53.02Balstorwhich means some good shoping in the coming weeks
02:53.05Arrowmasterso if the GUID didnt contain A-F then it got pulled into the match
02:54.41AiianeLegorol: assuming they're LibStub'd, whatever the highest minor version is
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02:56.09LegorolAiiane: I think you misunderstood the question. The aim is for me, as a user, to be able to determine which one it is either by doing something in-game, or looking for something obvious in my AddOns folder.
02:56.18LegorolI wasn't wondering how LibStub decides :o)
02:56.31Arrowmasterit doesnt
02:56.37Arrowmasterthe addon loading order does
02:58.01LegorolAll right, let me rephrase:
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02:58.31LegorolI have a bunch of versions of LibWhatever in my AddOns folder, due to it being embedded in a bunch of addons as well as having a standalone copy.
02:58.52LegorolWhat can I do as a user to identify which of those has the highest version number and therefore ends up being active?
02:59.38LegorolSay I find a bug and want to delete/rename the one that's active to see if an older/lower version has the issue too
02:59.51Legorolbut for that I need to identify which is the active one
02:59.58Legorolif that makes sense
03:00.14quiescensmm, cowtip is being slightly odd
03:00.16quiescensoh wells
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03:00.40Legorolwth??
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03:00.52KriLL3it's called spam
03:01.00CJO8dlua> function foo() print("A = ", a); end; a = 4; t = {}; t.foo = foo; foo(); t.foo(); setfenv(foo, {a = 1, print = print}); foo(); t.foo();
03:01.01lua_botCJO8d: A = , 4, A = , 4, A = , 1, A = , 1
03:01.03Legorolit looks far more creative than that
03:01.07KriLL3no
03:01.11Repo10chatter: 03Arrowmaster * r196 Modules/PlayerNames.lua:
03:01.12RepoFix broken achievement notifications caused by a greedy pattern expansion
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03:01.15lua_botufXi: A = , 4, A = , 4, A = , 1, A = , 1
03:01.15Yssarilwow they are using lua_bot to spam the channel
03:01.15Legorollooks like someone hooked up a script to use this channel as a lua engine
03:01.21ArrowmasterKaelten!
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03:01.26KriLL3Legorol: no
03:01.26lua_botZEAMj5h: A = , 4, A = , 4, A = , 1, A = , 1
03:01.27lua_botZEAMj5h: A = , 4, A = , 4, A = , 1, A = , 1
03:01.30Arrowmasterckknight!
03:01.34Legoroloh right, he is spamming the same thing
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03:01.46ckknightAiiane: bad advice
03:01.56LegorolAnyway, coming back to the library issue:
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03:02.22LegorolConsider this practical scenario. I want to make a ticket on a bug that's caused by a library, and I'd like to be able to say which version of the library am I using.
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03:02.43LegorolThe problem is: due to the library being embedded in a bunch of addons, I can't easily say (as a user) which version of the library I'm using.
03:03.23Legoroland therefore don't know what version to report in the ticket
03:03.35chiperhrm, I am really missing omen's AoE mode
03:04.19YssarilLegorol: once ingame call select(2, LibStub:GetLibrary(libname)) that should return the revison of the lib that is active
03:06.22Facktotumseems clad needs to fix the bot :S
03:07.55HessenI LOV THIS GAME NOW
03:07.57HessenWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
03:08.27YssarilFacktotum: not the bots fault its being spammed
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03:10.38LegorolYssaril: thanks, that's perfect. Now I just need to find out the precise MAJOR_VERSION for the library in question
03:11.20YssarilLegorol: open the library should be somewere to the top of the libs lua file
03:11.45LegorolYssaril: I'm trying to look for a generic solution I can advise to ordinary users too.
03:11.50LegorolThat's not exactly user-friendly.
03:12.06LegorolBasically, I'm trying to come up with a How To on reporting library-related bugs for end users.
03:12.14LegorolIt's rather difficult
03:12.44LegorolAn end user will find it hard to figure out which version of the library he needs to report and/or update/replace to try and remove a bug
03:13.02YssarilLegorol: probably easiest to point to the packed version of the addon and have the lib author figure it out
03:13.16Yssarilor someone that knows how to check such things :)
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03:14.08LegorolYssaril: it's not as simple as that. If the user has multiple copies of the library due to multiple addons that embed it, it's not clear which addon's author to run to for support request
03:14.27Legorolor even which addon to mention if reporting it to the lib author directly
03:15.38YssarilLegorol: usually it shows up as a addon error though not a lib error unless its disembedded and that has always been the problem with embedded libs that it makes debugging kindof a pain
03:16.33LegorolYssaril: the bug isn't showing up as a Lua error
03:16.39Legorolso that's irrelevant
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03:16.57LegorolOk, typical scenario:
03:17.29LegorolSome feature in a library that's embedded in multiple addons is broken. User wants to report it to library author. User needs to know what version to report. User is stuck.
03:18.23quiescensin all likelyhood, they are more likely to report it to whichever addon manifests the problem most dramatically
03:18.26quiescensheh
03:19.24YssarilLegorol: yea most likely its the addon thats using the lib that will get the blame for it since the the addon is showing the problems not the lib itself
03:20.51LegorolYssaril: you are assuming :)
03:20.59LegorolI did specifically mention an error caused by a lib, not an addon
03:22.18YssarilLegorol: i understand but if its not actually throwing an error then it will only show up by manifesting itself through the addon
03:22.49LegorolYssaril: assumption is the mother of all messups ;-)
03:23.17LegorolExample from today: Rock has problem hiding its minimap icon
03:23.49Legorolthat is blatantly the library's fault, manifests itself with all addons that embed Rock, and the obvious place to report it to is Rock's author
03:23.57Repo10grid-status-party: 03Dashkal * r30 / (2 files in 1 directory): TOC Bump - Tested in 3.0.2 with no problems
03:24.08Dashkalmeh... must convert to git
03:24.22sylvanaarthe addon its embedded it showsup on the bugsack stack trace
03:24.27YssarilLegorol: thats because it has to hack itself into saving the setting because it doesn't have acess to an SV file if its embedded
03:25.06Yssariland hacks like that are kinda unstable :P and i wouldnt call rock a lib its more of a framework that has an addon in itself
03:25.18Legoroli agree, it's a framework
03:25.25Legorolit's handled via libstub though and is embedded
03:25.33Yssarilas such the problem manifests itself thru the addon portion (the button) of the lib
03:25.35Legorolalso, i'm not interested in discussing the Rock issue specifically
03:25.41Repo10grid-status-party: 03Dashkal 04v0.9 * r31 : Tagging as 0.9
03:25.43LegorolI am interested in discussing a generic solution to the generic issue:
03:25.57Legorolhow to report library issues when multiple versions are present, simplified for an end user
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03:26.11sylvanaarbuggrabber
03:26.20sylvanaarit says the library name
03:26.21Yssarilas i said if there is no lua error the addon that manifests the problem will get blamed for it
03:26.38Legorolsylvanaar: please scroll back up before contributing :) the issue is not the name, but the version number
03:27.06LegorolYssaril: and as I said, bugs like that don't cause Lua errors and therefore don't blame any addons
03:27.30LegorolMy question, phrased as generically as possible:
03:27.39Yssarilso if there are bugs that dont show up and don't manifest themselfs in an addon then who cares noone will ever know :P
03:27.53quiescenslol
03:27.58LegorolWhen a library has a bug, which doesn't manifest itself as a Lua error, how should end users be expected to identify the version of the library to report in a ticket.
03:28.01LegorolThat's the question.
03:28.11LegorolYssaril: I just gave you an obvious example
03:28.42YssarilLegorol: he won't know that its a lib cause he will notice the promblem by his addon doing screwy things
03:28.55LegorolYssaril: how many more times do I need to repeat it?
03:29.07LegorolI am specifically asking for the situation when it's *known* that a library is causing an issue
03:29.12Legorolwhat's not known is its version number
03:29.25Repo10grid-status-lifebloom: 03Azethoth * r32 / (2 files in 1 directory): -- Fix countdown
03:29.26Repo-- Remove BS dependency
03:29.36grennonalright, when you create a new libdatabroker object, what does the "value" property do?
03:30.08LegorolYssaril: I agree that in many cases, the error will manifest itself through a particular addon misbehaving, in which case it's fine to report to that addon's author.
03:30.32LegorolHowever, I am looking for a solution for when it's obvious that it's a library error, it's not attributable to a specific addon, and the user would like to report directly to the library author.
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03:30.43sylvanaarwell, apparently some view addons can display the value in a different color (selected by the user)
03:30.55|Yssaril|Legorol: if you can figure that out then you are not the average user since you have already done some debugging and can figure out how libstub works :P other than that your really up the creek expet for disembedding and only using one version
03:31.40Legorol|Yssaril|: coming back to the Rock example: i have seen a few complaints already about it not saving its minimap icon. That's coming from ordinary users.
03:32.56ArrowmasterLegorol: the version number is available directly from LibStub
03:33.20LegorolArrowmaster: sure, and I can get it. How does a non-Lua-aware user get it?
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03:33.40Arrowmasterthey use !BugGrabber/BugSack
03:33.50Legoroloki
03:33.53Arrowmasterit lists the version number in the error messages
03:33.54Aiianea non-Lua-aware user isn't aware that it's a library-specific error? >.>
03:34.37LegorolArrowmaster: unless it's a bug that doesn't cause a Lua error
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03:34.58LegorolAiiane: most of the time, I would agree. But there are errors that even average Joe can tell that it's library specific
03:35.14Hessenmaybe its a smelly bug
03:35.24Hessenthen you need some sort of perfuming
03:35.47LegorolThe point is: you guys are telling me why I shouldn't expect the situation to arise. I am saying the situation *does* arise, and am trying to open discussion on what should a user be told in such a situation.
03:36.18Hessengo breath some fresh air. come back and fix
03:36.23Hessenu can do it Legorol!
03:36.30Legorolhuh? fix what :)
03:36.36Hessenur bug
03:36.41LegorolI don't have a bug :)
03:36.47Hessenyou want one? :P
03:36.50LegorolI'm trying to discuss process-flow, not a specific bug
03:37.00Hessenim just tired
03:37.02Hessenignore me
03:37.06Legorol:)
03:38.13sylvanaar!Buggrabber can get the library version
03:38.21sylvanaarfor Rock, Ace, and LibStub
03:42.14sylvanaarand as an outside addon, you only know the version of a library when the libstub library upgrades, not all the addons in between that didnt.
03:43.31sylvanaarso at best you can say which addons caused upgrades, and what library versions they each had
03:43.42chiperhaha, we just killed hydross in two minutes
03:43.49Facktotumhttp://ace.pastey.net/98518
03:44.19Torhal_chiper: Gah
03:44.30Facktotumanything can be done to fix that error?
03:44.42chiperour GM just said fuck SSC, we're going to hyjal tonight
03:45.53Torhal_LOL
03:47.25elite3vilchiper: good, you could probably get away with going to BT
03:47.31elite3vilHell, go kill KJ
03:47.35elite3vilnot like it's hard anymore.
03:48.13chiperprobably
03:48.24RaydenUniKJ?
03:48.31elite3vilYeah, KJ.
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03:48.35elite3vilLike, the last boss in Sunwell?
03:48.45theoddone33kara isn't fun now
03:48.45RaydenUnikil'jaeden
03:48.46theoddone33too easy
03:48.49RaydenUnisorry
03:48.52RaydenUnididn't know the acronym
03:48.53theoddone33it was always easay but now it's just ... bleh
03:49.04RaydenUnitheoddone33 the sad thing is my guild still rarely completely kara in one night
03:49.09RaydenUnilast few times we've gotten to shade
03:49.48chiperbut we dont know any of the sunwell fights.  in the time it'd take us to get trainer, we could do the first three bosses of hyjal
03:49.56chiperthe shadow resist will be tough tho
03:50.15elite3vilWhat do you need SR for?
03:50.30chiperthird boss in hyjal
03:50.38elite3villies.
03:50.38Daemoenhrm
03:50.45Facktotum>.<
03:50.45Daemoenwonders who it was that was trying to msg him
03:50.58RaydenUnipart of me is sad i won't see BT, Hyjal, Sunwell
03:51.08RaydenUniand most of TK and SSC
03:51.09Facktotumchiper: you dont need SR now
03:51.18Facktotumeven before
03:53.40chiperorly?
03:53.48chipercool, we might go pretty far tonight
03:54.25Parnicany mods around? i have comments disabled for my addon's Main page, but people can still leave comments on the mod project page (which i thought was just the Main page itself)
03:54.40Parnicthis creates confusion since now I have comments both on the wowace project page and the curse project page. can we disable one or the other?
03:54.45alcarasAceEvent-2.0.lua 695 Roster-2.1: Bad argument #2 to 'GetUnitIDfromUnit" is not a legitimate UnitID.
03:54.50digmouseif you can kill the first 3 bosses in hyjal in 2.4 then all of them are easy in 3.0
03:54.57alcarasarena1* is not a legitimate UnitID
03:54.58alcarasin arenas
03:55.04alcaraswhere's an acevent that doesn't chain error in arena
03:55.19Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar 04Beta 5 * r47 : Tagging as Beta 5.
03:56.17|Yssaril|Stanzilla: ping
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03:57.41alcarasAnyone know where there's a functional version of Roster-2.1? That works with the new arena unit IDs?
03:57.53alcarasI just updated via Curse Client and it added errors instead of fixing them :(
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03:59.01Repo10lib-st: 03ddumont * r18 Core.lua: lib-st:
03:59.02Reporow highlights
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04:01.18pastamanceralcaras: got a link to info about these new arena unit ids?
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04:03.11alcarassure, one second
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04:03.47alcarashttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7680-SSArenaFrames.html uses the new ids
04:05.32Repo10skillet: 03nogudnik 04v1.11 * r143 : Tagging as v1.11.
04:05.33Repo1.11-Beta2 seems to be stable enough.
04:07.00alcaraspastamancer: "arena1" is now a valid unitID. It should extend on through "arena5" and reference hostile arena opponents.
04:07.07alcaraspastamancer: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=97D352760EADDB76D6C5190A27C616D4.app05_07?topicId=10043170854&sid=1&pageNo=2
04:07.31alcaraspastamancer: also "arena1pet"
04:07.42pastamanceralcaras: at line 57 or so in Roster-2.1.lua add this:  for i = 1, 5 do LegitimateUnits["arena"..i] = true end
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04:08.36alcarashrm, how do is show bugsack without fubar
04:08.57linear`uh anyone here know lc3 assembly
04:08.59pastamancerI believe it's /bugsack show current
04:09.29alcarasnot recognizing it :-/
04:09.42Daemoenckknight: ping
04:09.54ckknightpong
04:09.59alcaraspastamancer: oh god, _which_ Roster file should i edit. i have 4 embedded copies :(
04:10.05Daemoenany idea whats been going on with c3waypoints?
04:10.10pastamanceralcaras: pick one and bump it's minor version
04:10.11Daemoenor hasnt anyone reported it back yet?
04:10.18ckknightyea, models changed in 3.0
04:10.37alcarasone has this: local MINOR_VERSION = 90000 + tonumber(("$Revision: 91 $"):match("(%d+)"))
04:10.51Facktotumalcaras: get a databroker addon
04:11.00alcarasFacktotum: for Bugsack?
04:11.06Daemoenckknight: nods,  it gonna be a while before that part has time to be looked at?  ( not trying to rush, just curious when to watch for it :) )
04:11.09Facktotumyes
04:11.18ckknighti don't know
04:11.21Daemoenokies
04:11.36alcarasFacktotum: what's a good databroker addon?
04:11.42Facktotumi am using fortress
04:11.45alcaraspastamancer: i added those lines
04:12.20pastamanceralcaras: and increased the version number?
04:12.43alcarasi used the one with the highest version number already
04:12.57chiperoh nice, rage winterchill's death and decay is REALLY easy to see now
04:13.00pastamancerthat should work unless there's two copies with the same version
04:13.10alcarasit's the one in grid, it has  local MINOR_VERSION = 90000 + tonumber(("$Revision: 91 $"):match("(%d+)"))
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04:13.17alcaraswhich is higher than the 50xxx
04:14.25alcarasgoing to do a skirmish arena to test
04:14.47chiperRage dead in 4minutes 55 seconds
04:15.11alcarasFacktotum: downloaded fortress -- it gives errors when i type /ft
04:15.28alcarasOptions.lua:589: attempt to call global 'InterfaceOptionsFRame_OpenT-Frame' (A nil value)
04:16.06Facktotumi know sometimes it gives that error
04:16.25alcarasis there a ldb broker addon that i'll just put all the broker things into one icon on my minimap?
04:17.15alcaraspastamancer: it works
04:17.48Facktotumalcaras: if you have fubar installed you can use http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker2fubar/
04:18.14alcarasi don't have fubar
04:18.24alcarasi just want to be able to use bugsack :(
04:18.27alcarasi don't really want a ldb broker addon
04:19.31alcarasi guessi  can use fortress, just need to hide all the ones i don't want
04:19.40Facktotumbugsack is ldb now
04:19.44chiperis there no slash command for bugsack?
04:20.06pastamanceralcaras: yay, now also add LegitimateUnits["arena" .. i .."pet"] = true inside the loop to get pets
04:20.16alcaraspastamancer: already added
04:21.00kagarochiper:  we did teron so fast he only 1 person got ghosted
04:21.20alcarasnow that bugsack is working, i can paste the other bugs:
04:21.22alcaras\GridStatusMissingBuffs\GridStatusMissingBuffs.lua:431: attempt to concatenate field 'Blessing of Light' (a nil value):
04:21.27theoddone33at least I'm gonna get exalted with kara now
04:21.34alcarasGridStatusRaidDebuff-3.0\GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua:916: bad argument #2 to 'fmt' (string expected, got nil)
04:21.42alcarasFortress-1.0\Options.lua:489: attempt to call global 'InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToFrame' (a nil value)
04:22.27Facktotumhmm
04:22.32FacktotumInterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToFrame(blizOptions)
04:22.55Facktotumthis must have changed
04:24.18Repo10lib-st: 03ddumont * r19 Core.lua: lib-st:
04:24.19Repocustom highlight color
04:28.12pastamancermuahahaha, guild bank support in sanity2
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04:28.26Repo10cutup: 03tsigo * r73 / (2 files in 2 directories): Cutup: Glutton's ready for beta!
04:28.57Repo10cutup: 03tsigo 043.0.2.3-Beta * r74 : Cutup: Tag 3.0.2.3-Beta (Glutton - Hunger For Blood timer)
04:34.15Torhal_Change it to: InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory
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04:34.59Facktotumalcaras
04:35.03alcarasFacktotum: yes?
04:35.07alcarasAlso, AllPlayed:  AllPlayed-30000-1 135\AllPlayed.lua:1096: attempt to concatenate field '?' (a nil value)
04:35.11Facktotumapply that change torhal said
04:35.20alcarasah ok ty
04:35.23Torhal_np
04:35.28alcarasdidn't see it b/c chatzilla didn't beep
04:36.47alcarasit'll beep if you go alcaras: though at the start of the line :)
04:37.08alcarasty Torhal_ and Facktotum, /ft works now
04:37.29Torhal_Yay :)
04:39.44FacktotumTorhal_: is it possible to change the fonts for the ldb text?
04:40.08Torhal_That depends on the LDB display you're using.
04:40.23Torhal_I can change them with StatBlockCore and ButtonBin...no idea with Fortress, though
04:41.00Facktotumi don't see an option
04:41.18Torhal_In Fortress, or...?
04:44.24CIA-48tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * rb7c4758 10/ (16 files in 3 dirs): Remove pet training objectives, not needed with WoW 3.0 - http://is.gd/3vg0
04:44.25Facktotumyeah
04:44.34Facktotumits not a big deal
04:44.38CIA-48tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * rfe28b14 10/ (16 files in 3 dirs): Merge branch 'no-pets' - http://is.gd/4ehg
04:48.00Facktotumthe addon preferences minimap icon keeps loading even after setting hide from minimap
04:48.17Torhal_Rock screw-thinger?
04:48.46Facktotumyep
04:49.00digmouseI changed my wow install to my beta but the list showing in CC is still the ones in my 2.4.3 live
04:49.06Torhal_Yup, don't know the exact details on why but apparently someone's working on a fix
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04:52.00alcarasanyone know of a working version of sendself?
04:52.19FacktotumTorhal_: i think kolie fixed that
04:52.34Facktotumbest option for now configuration -> Set WoW Directory
04:53.38alcarasFacktotum: rock icon is fixed
04:53.48leech2kthanks for fixing icon!
04:53.59leech2know how do I update for that
04:54.47Facktotumalcaras: what? where?
04:54.53alcarasdownload the latest alpha
04:55.07Facktotumof what?
04:55.18alcarashttp://www.wowace.com/projects/librockconfig-1-0/files/
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04:56.00theoddone33wow
04:56.06theoddone33bartender 4 fails at chess event
04:56.20leech2kI used bartender4 for chess yesterday worked fine
04:56.28leech2kI even played the king :-)
04:56.40Facktotumalcaras: i am not using disembedded
04:56.42Repo10sanity-item-cache: 03Pastamancer * r47 Libs/: SanityItemCache:
04:56.43Repo- Fixed externals
04:56.51alcarasFacktotum: doesn't matter, it'll load with priority
04:56.55alcarassince it's a new revision
04:56.59theoddone33maybe I gotta enable paging on bar 1
04:57.04theoddone33normally it would go on pet bar
04:57.26theoddone33but all of my bars disappeared and I couldn't do anything
04:57.48digmousebut there is a possess option in bt4 bar state menu
04:57.54Facktotumckknight: love the comment DIE ADDON PREFERENCES BUTTON DIE!
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04:58.32Repo10sanity2: 03Pastamancer 07guildbank * r89 : Sanity2: create branch for guild bank support
04:59.07theoddone33yeah with paging turned on
04:59.08Repo10sanity2: 03Pastamancer 07guildbank * r90 Sanity.lua: Sanity2: initial guild bank support
04:59.41Repo10sanity-item-cache: 03Pastamancer 07guildbank * r48 : SanityItemCache: create branch for guild bank support
05:00.10Repo10sanity-item-cache: 03Pastamancer 07guildbank * r49 SanityItemCache.lua: SanityItemCache:
05:00.10Repo- initial guild bank support
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05:03.49molgaranyone know a working lua interpreter? getting errors with wowlua
05:04.30theoddone33so that's fucked up
05:04.39theoddone33why the hell would they change how chess works?
05:04.47theoddone33and make it screw with bar mods
05:05.36Gngskbecause chess is hard and they want to reflect that fact? like spell reflect.
05:06.04theoddone33we wiped the first try because multiple people couldn't control stuff
05:06.21theoddone33so in that sense now it's harder than it ever was before
05:06.40theoddone33this may make it possibly the hardest fight in the instance
05:06.44Gngskhaha
05:07.04Gngskmust to mail this chatlog to uidevs!
05:07.06Yssariltheoddone33: they added the possession mechanic which you will encounter more with vehicles later so you might as well set it up now
05:07.23theoddone33as far as I can tell that fight didn't scale down
05:07.26theoddone33while all the other ones did
05:10.21theoddone33prince down in under 2 minutes
05:10.27theoddone33so stupid
05:11.42Repo10sanity2: 03Pastamancer 07guildbank * r91 Sanity.xml: Sanity: fixed font object on character name dropdown
05:12.02Repo10sanity-item-cache: 03Pastamancer 07guildbank * r50 SanityItemCache.lua: SanityItemCache:
05:12.03Repo- Delay guild bank initialization until guild bank is opened
05:12.31pastamancerphew, I think that's it for tonight
05:21.18Repo10onebag3: 03Kaelten * r13 / (2 files in 1 directory): work done to the config screen
05:26.00Repo10sanity-item-cache: 03Pastamancer 07guildbank * r51 SanityItemCache.lua: SanityItemCache:
05:26.01Repo- fix lockup when removing a tag from an item
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05:31.42chiperso... who was it that said Kaz'rogal doesnt require shadow resist any more?
05:32.26pastamancerAntiarc: ping, want your blessing before I mess with sanity2/sanityitemcache too much
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05:32.45Shirik14(0111:1211:2714) 14(11+15pastamancer14) phew, I think that's it for tonight
05:32.51Hjaltechiper: Probably someone who's been farming t6 for a long time and thus is able to down him in no time at all.
05:32.58pastamancerShirik: yeah, and then I found some outstanding bugs
05:32.59Shirik14(0111:3211:2114) 14(11+15pastamancer14) Antiarc: ping, I wanna do more stuff <paraphrased>
05:33.05Shirik:)
05:33.20pastamancerlike it locking up wow when you remove a tag from an item
05:33.37Shirikoops
05:33.42pastamanceryeah
05:33.44HjalteI have one/more addons making wow crash on me at times I think :(
05:33.53pastamancerthe datastructure changed but not the function to remove tags ><
05:35.39pastamancerhmm, where does FauxScrollFrameTemplate live now?
05:35.46Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar 04Beta 6 * r49 : Tagging as Beta 6.
05:37.07pastamancerfound it
05:38.56Repo10sanity2: 03Pastamancer 07guildbank * r92 Sanity.xml: Sanity2: fixed vertical scrolling
05:39.38Repo10sanity2: 03Pastamancer 07guildbank * r93 / (2 files in 1 directory): Sanity2: stick "Guild Bank" in the enUS locale.
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05:41.18Repo10rosterlib: 03Pastamancer * r92 Roster-2.1/Roster-2.1.lua:
05:41.19RepoRoster-2.1: arena[1-5] and arena[1-5]pet are legitimate units
05:41.30pastamancernow I'm done
05:42.52sylvanaardoes mousing over nodes in the tree of your ace config cause your chat tabs to pop up?
05:43.40sylvanaarthats directed at anyone willing to try it on their end
05:44.20Facktotumi am using fane and it does not
05:44.21Repo10sanity2: 03Pastamancer 042.2-guildbank-alpha * r94 : Sanity2:
05:44.23Repo- Tag alpha release of guild bank support
05:44.24Repo- Requires SanityItemCache with guild bank support
05:44.45Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r611 AutoBarButton.lua: AutoBar :
05:44.45Repo-- handle nil case when no mounts have been converted yet.
05:44.54sylvanaarnot the fane node, but subnodes of it
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05:45.24Repo10sanity-item-cache: 03Pastamancer 042.1-guildbank-alpha * r52 : SanityItemCache:
05:45.24Repo- Tag alpha release of guild bank support
05:45.26Repo- For use with Sanity2 with guild bank support
05:45.44seebsAnyone around got experience debugging Ace mods on a case-sensitive filesystem?
05:46.28seebsI remembered why I eventually switched completely to non-embedded mode -- in embedded mode, on a case-sensitive filesystem, it is fairly common for some addon to completely destroy the entire framework by misspelling a library path.  Or something that looks a lot like that.
05:47.58pastamancersounds like a job for a little perl-fu to sanity-check the toc files
05:48.27sylvanaaryeah, it does. someone try this. Any ace3 based config with a base node + subnodes in the tree... expand the base node, and mouse over a subnode - your chat tabs will pop up
05:48.56seebsYeah.
05:49.04seebsWell, I think I found at least one of the problems.
05:49.19seebsFuBar_TrainerFu doesn't actually embed all of LibPeriodicTable.
05:49.34seebsAnd what it does embed is in the wrong subdirectory.
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05:50.29seebsI don't know why embedding is so consistently hosed.  There is something deeply wrong with finding a directory named "libs\AceAddon".  No, not a directory named libs with a subdirectory named AceAddon.
05:51.18pastamancerhaha
05:51.42pastamanceruse wine to unzip your addons? :p
05:52.19seebsUgh.
05:52.46pastamanceror more perl-fu
05:52.47seebsI'm a bit unclear on how the zips are created.  Do authors upload their code and the dependency specs, or are they just all making their own zips with whatever?
05:52.56pastamancerdepends
05:53.28seebsI'm still trying to figure out how to detect all the failure modes.  What I really want is just to be able to download the no-embeds versions.  I once spent about eight hours on this, and then I gave up, switched to no-embeds, and had everything working perfectly in about half an hour.
05:54.41Facktotumits not easy to do no-embeds now
05:54.42seebsIs there a consistent meaning to addon names being in red with no error message for them on mouseover, in the addon-selection window?  I've been trying to figure out if WoW is giving me hints as to what's wrong.
05:54.56Facktotumyes its a wow problem
05:55.03Facktotumwill be fixed in next version
05:55.05seebsI have never seen the embeds work for anything more complicated than a tiny set of addons all downloaded on the same day.  :)
05:55.08Facktotumits LOD
05:55.20Facktotumred means LOD
05:55.33seebsAhh.
05:55.52seebsLooks like it's down to "binary search for the addon which is breaking everything else Ace-based I have".  Whee.
05:56.15Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r612 AutoBarButton.lua: AutoBar :
05:56.16Repo-- handle nil case when no mounts have been converted yet.
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05:59.06Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r613 / (3 files in 1 directory): AutoBar :
05:59.07Repo-- 3.00.00.03 alpha
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06:02.50pastamancer~seen antiarc
06:02.51purlantiarc is currently on #wowuidev (18h 46m 12s) #wowace (18h 46m 12s) #curseforge (18h 46m 12s), last said: 'wut'.
06:03.10TorhalHe just had a kid, I believe.
06:03.12pastamancerah, so it hasn't been that long
06:03.26Facktotumpastamancer: thanks for the update
06:03.27pastamancerhis last visited on the forums was 2 weeks ago
06:03.45pastamancernot having sanity is insanity!
06:03.48TorhalHe was talking about being in the hospital last night
06:06.12pastamancerthey're both well written... it only took a few hours to fix having never looked at the code before
06:08.25pastamancerI'm sure there's a better way to fix the font object for the buttons, but I'm not really familiar with using xml for defining frames
06:09.17Repo10grid-status-lifebloom: 03Azethoth * r33 GridStatusLifebloom.lua: -- Add back 1/10 second to timer
06:12.00Arrowmasterrofl rag down
06:12.11Arrowmaster30+ people
06:12.14Arrowmasterhe went splat
06:12.46Arrowmasterand i got the achievement on my 63 rogue!
06:13.19Facktotumwe just downed thrall with 22 people
06:13.43Facktotum43mins after a lot of resists/dodges/parries
06:15.22Repo10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro * r139 .pkgmeta: ArkInventory:
06:15.23Repo- pgkmeta fixed
06:15.50Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth 043.00.00.03 alpha * r614 : Tagging as 3.00.00.03 alpha.
06:18.58Repo10bulk-mail2: 03dhedbor * r287 BulkMail.lua: Fixed mail sending.
06:20.09elite3vilI just solo'd Durn
06:20.19theoddone33paladin?
06:20.20Arrowmasterrofl
06:20.20theoddone33druid?
06:20.38Arrowmasteri just got on an alt and got the acorn ale from the mail
06:20.40elite3vilPaladin
06:20.49elite3vilI ended with 100% hp, 90% mana.
06:20.51Arrowmasterand it didnt go away when i used it
06:21.13seebsHmm.  ClearFont2 is complaining about an undefined global "SystemFont".
06:21.36Arrowmasterits dead
06:22.39seebs?
06:22.43Arrowmasterclearfont
06:22.46ZhinjioMore Funnyz for u: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14581
06:23.00seebsAhh.
06:23.12Repo10simple-self-rebuff: 03Adirelle * r183 / (4 files in 4 directories): Bumped modules TOC to 30000.
06:23.17Arrowmasterso yeah this acorn ale didnt go away when i used it until i filled my inventory with 192 empty brew bottles from it
06:23.32seebsIt would be really neat if Curse didn't list dead addons as recently updated.  :)
06:24.20Facktotumseebs: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8786-tekticles.html
06:24.32Facktotumshould work instead of cf2
06:24.34elite3vilanyone have even the slightest clue why ClosetGnome won't .. even let me do /cg when it's enabled, and showing up in my addons list?
06:24.52Repo10bulk-mail2: 03dhedbor * r288 BulkMail2.toc: toc bump
06:25.40elite3viljust installed the freshest version of it, deleting the old one and the wtf files.
06:26.04Facktotumdoes it give an error?
06:26.23Repo10bulk-mail2: 03dhedbor 04r289-release * r289 : Tagging for syndication (works in 3.0)
06:26.29elite3vil[02:23:49] Type '/help' for a listing of a few commands.
06:26.36elite3vilis all I'm getting.
06:26.46seebsHuh, I wonder if clearfont wasn't the thing causing some of my crazy problems.
06:27.10Facktotumelite3vil: i think its LDB
06:27.16Primernevcairiel: no self cast when no target with bt4?
06:27.23Facktotumget a libdatabroker addon and you should see an icon/text
06:28.35Primersigh, this is kind of a showstopper here
06:28.41Primerthink I need to go back to dominos
06:29.06pakozIs there a stand alone mod that will make my quest log much larger (like cartographer _quests)?
06:29.29digmousebeql?
06:29.39digmousedunno if it works in 3.0
06:31.20Lenvikanyone manage to get PitBull Quickhealth to work?
06:31.31FacktotumnQuestLog was updated for 3.0
06:31.42Zhinjiodoes it include achievement tracking now?
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06:32.23FacktotumZhinjio: which addon?
06:32.30Zhinjionquestlog
06:32.37elite3vilFacktotum: Thanks, it's working.
06:32.46seebsHmmmm.  Is Cartographer (2.2) supposed to work these days?
06:32.55Facktotumelite3vil: good :)
06:32.57ZhinjioUI'm using a downlaod from a few days ago. it doesn't include achievement tracking
06:33.10Zhinjioand its fubar2broker stuff isn't *quite* there, but its otherwise perfect.
06:34.23Repo10alarlib: 03alar * r121 AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua: Removed stale reference to Babble-Inventory-2.2
06:34.29Facktotumtime to get some sleep
06:34.31Facktotumnn
06:34.36sylvanaaryou guys know a mod that can do the av turnins?
06:34.54elite3vilsspvp2 does it
06:34.55theoddone33autoturnin
06:35.00elite3vilor used to, assuming it works
06:35.10Arrowmasterseebs: no
06:35.17sylvanaaryeah it did, but now there sspvp3 which doenst
06:35.24seebsAhh.  Should I abandon it, or go to 3.0, or what?
06:35.38theoddone33not sure if I got autoturnin to do them
06:35.40sylvanaardoes it owork?
06:35.41theoddone33since updating
06:35.50theoddone33I may have, I can'tn remember
06:38.01theoddone33I'd check but achievements are currently making me waste time in a way this game has never done yet
06:38.08Lenvikdoes anyone here know anything about pitbull? >>
06:38.10seebsOh-hoh.  Yes, swapping out Cartographer seems to make a bunch of errors go away.
06:38.24seebsI know that pitbull's the next mod I was going to try turning on to see if it'll work... :)
06:38.41seebsWhoops, one of the others did it again.
06:38.44Lenvikpitbull quickhealth isn't working for me, but pitbull itself seems to
06:38.53seebsIt looks like any mod I have which embeds LibSharedMedia-3.0 breaks CowTip.
06:39.06seebsBut if I don't use the embedded versions, and just have LibSharedMedia-3.0 in AddOns, it works fine.
06:39.22Zhinjiopitbull is working fien for me.
06:39.24Lenvikand i still need to find out what mod is breaking my guild and /who tabs of the social window
06:39.34LenvikZhinjio: do you use pitbull quickhealth?
06:39.47[ArPharazon]hey guys - could anyone help me with tracking down a bug: attempt to call method 'SetTextColor' (a nil value)
06:40.10Zhinjionegative
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06:40.15Lenvikk
06:40.35seebsArPharazon, in what mod?
06:40.37[ArPharazon]zhinjio - are you still working on SK Geo btw ?
06:40.44Zhinjioyes.
06:40.53Zhinjioand I'm aware I need to update.
06:40.56Zhinjioand I'm working on it
06:40.57[ArPharazon]cos as it happens, my bug is occurring in SK :P (v3.07 tho)
06:41.17[ArPharazon]i've messaged JoeHunk asking about SK
06:41.29sylvanaarcapping still has it listed as a feature
06:43.07sb|workmoin :o
06:46.13Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r262 / (8 files in 2 directories):
06:46.13Repo- made alpha settings properly affect non-bar elements (range finder, targetinfo, combo points, etc.)
06:46.14Repo- something's busted with the rune module if you spawn into the world and that module is at 0% alpha...trying to track that down now, but i gotta go to bed. could be a result of this change, maybe not.
06:47.36seebsHmm, looks like LibSharedMedia-3.0 itself lacks its lib.xml.
06:47.37seebsArgh.
06:47.50Repo10talented_data: 03jerry * r152 / (3 files in 2 directories):
06:47.51RepoUse the right data source. This fixes a few talents being misplaced
06:48.11[ArPharazon]seebs - i'm trying to figure out why 'SetTextColor' is no longer working in an old version of SuicideKings
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06:48.26Repo10talented_data: 03jerry 04v3.0.2-9056-release-3 * r153 : Tagging as v3.0.2-9056-release-3.
06:48.31seebsNo idea what that is.  But I think SetTextColor itself is gone.
06:49.28Repo10bulk-mail2inbox: 03dhedbor * r78 / (5 files in 3 directories): Fixed externals, pkgmeta, toc etc.
06:51.27seebsHuh.  No matter what I do, I can't make this thing find LibSharedMedia-3.0.  There are at least two versions embedded in different addons, and sometimes if I happen to have the right one load first, it comes up okay.
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06:52.34seebsThe final problem seems to be "Interface\AddOns\LibSharedMedia-3.0\lib.xml", which couldn't be loaded.  Not that it's absent, or anything.  No, it's there, and openable.  But WoW "couldn't open" it for reasons unspecified.
06:54.07Repo10bulk-mail2inbox: 03dhedbor * r79 / (4 files in 2 directories): Really fixed stuff.
06:54.41[ArPharazon]aha found it
06:55.04[ArPharazon]button:SetTextColor(1, 0.5, 0.25, 1.0) is now button:GetNormalFontObject():SetTextColor(1, 0.5, 0.25, 1.0)
06:55.07[ArPharazon]superb
06:56.10Repo10bulk-mail2: 03dhedbor * r290 / (4 files in 3 directories): Fixed externals and pkgmeta.
06:56.14seebsAh-hah.
06:56.30Repo10bulk-mail2: 03dhedbor 043.0.0 * r291 : Tagging 3.0.0
06:56.40seebsJust reload LibSharedMedia-3.0, and then fix its toc to refer to LibSharedMedia-3.0\lib.xml (in a subdirectory of the same name), and all is well.
06:57.40Repo10bulk-mail2inbox: 03dhedbor * r80 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fixed externals, bumped version.
06:57.55Repo10bulk-mail2inbox: 03dhedbor 043.0.0 * r81 : Tagging 3.0.0
06:58.30seebsAny recommendations of a fubar XP plugin?  :)
06:59.55Groktarnibbles on seebs' soul in lieu of a suggestion
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07:05.03theoddone33there's a /click command isn't there?
07:05.08theoddone33and you give it the name of a frame?
07:05.13asmodaiseebs: haven't found any decent ones recently
07:05.24theoddone33question: how do you find the name of t he frame you're interested in?
07:05.26asmodaiseebs: So I just use Pitbull's builtin xp part
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07:08.55seebsI really liked ExperienceFu, but it seems to be long dead.
07:09.19LoonacyExperienceFu is working just fine for me.
07:09.22seebsI recall disliking Pitbull's, but maybe I'll give it another go.  It's not crucial that I find something for a while.
07:09.25profalbertworks fine here
07:09.36seebsAhh, it may actually work.  I've just been afraid to load old addons for fear that Something Will Break.
07:10.06xemacshey guys
07:10.24xemacssomeone knows how to get prat running on deDE client?
07:10.25Repo10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm * r2 / (4 files in 1 directory): MorgBid2
07:10.25Repo-initial commit
07:13.08Repo10alarlib: 03alar * r122 AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua: Removed stale reference to Babble-Inventory-2.2
07:13.57asmodaiseebs: oh, some things *do* break
07:14.05asmodaiseebs: I managed to lock up my client one time already :D
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07:14.42Gngskasmodai, /run while true do stuff end ?
07:15.12asmodaiGngsk: Not sure, granted it was a bit silly to try, but I don't think it should've locked the client up this bad
07:15.21asmodaihad a character with inscription
07:15.31asmodaiand pressed 'scan skills' with ackis recipe list
07:15.38Gngskheh
07:15.51Gngsknot quite as silly as this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOIf_t68g0s
07:15.53asmodaiSomething was not agreeing :)
07:15.58asmodai*looks*
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07:16.08Gngskawww!
07:16.26asmodaiMan, that's old skool
07:16.31asmodaiI remember that beat loop
07:16.34Gngskfo sho
07:16.46Gngskstill good though!
07:17.01Groktardevours Gngsk's soul
07:17.18asmodaiGngsk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BALrsIKMr3c
07:18.31Gngski'll see that and raise you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxrWRN0aq2c
07:19.08asmodaiGngsk: I wonder how that ranks with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Xb2a7KOz8
07:19.09Gngskwow us 90s pop flashbacks
07:19.36Gngskdef top 25
07:19.55asmodaiI think Rozella's was one of the first back in the day I heard.
07:20.09asmodaiPerhaps Apotheosis with Carmen Burama
07:20.10Groktaris dirty, DIRTY girl. Spank her!
07:20.23asmodaiGroktar: Why dirty though?
07:20.27sb|workhuh girl?
07:20.29sb|work:/
07:20.33Gngskok, i swear that this is the last one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b714Wi4CDsQ
07:20.56asmodaioh damn
07:20.57asmodaiyea
07:20.58Gngskyoutube is insane for flashbacks
07:20.58Primersigh, back to dominos
07:20.59asmodaiclassic
07:21.00theoddone33so now I think I'm gonna use /click CompanionSummonButton to mount
07:21.09Primerbt4 has no way to self cast when there's no target
07:21.17Gngsktheoddone33, you have to open the mount tab once for that to work i think
07:21.26theoddone33hm, that may be
07:21.27asmodaiGngsk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLHMAFfXYNY
07:21.58Gngskwow
07:22.04Gngski forgot all about that song
07:22.14theoddone33hm you're right
07:22.17Gngsktoo bad white people didn't exist in the 90s
07:22.26theoddone33if you do it just after login it summons a non combat pet :(
07:22.49Gngskthey were all walking around in seattle with flannel shirts and it took some emo dude to emancipate them
07:22.50theoddone33that's not very useful
07:22.56asmodaiGngsk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haFXbGfISa0
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07:23.28asmodaiGngsk: Heh, actually this stuff started with white people in my country, soon it was a very mixed crowd, very nice. :)
07:23.40Gngskwell, i'm close to baltimore
07:23.42Gngskso, yeah
07:23.45asmodaiAhh ok
07:23.47asmodaiNetherlands here.
07:23.58Gngskyeah I could tell you were from europe
07:24.01Gngski been there too though
07:24.07Gngskbut not until way after these songs were popular
07:24.40asmodaiHahaha, OMG, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNV77pzvf_8 and  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIAj1ihcfME
07:24.46Gngskit's funny though, some of the stations still play these songs late night on fridays for dance clubs
07:25.14Gngskwow james brown is dead
07:25.20asmodaithis has got to be the original http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RmyPnfqres
07:25.26Gngskthat's like instant exctasy flashbacks
07:25.35asmodaiall those old Roland 707's and the likes
07:25.57Gngskso old school mix tape trading
07:26.00asmodaiFunny thing is, Dutch and Belgium artists quickly rose high in those days
07:26.11asmodaiWe embraced it like crazy :|
07:26.12Gngskcan you believe people used to send magnetic tape via male from place to place
07:26.18asmodaiI can
07:26.23asmodaiI had a shitload of tapes like that
07:26.26Gngsk*mail
07:26.35asmodaivia male too ;)
07:26.38Gngskyah, same. kinda sad to think it's just nostalgia now though
07:26.39Gngskheh
07:26.44asmodaiyou could buy tapes at certain clubs too
07:26.51asmodaiParkzicht here in Rotterdam had mixtapes
07:27.10JaxonAnyone know off the top of their head how to toggle the new calendar without using the minimap button?
07:27.10asmodaiGngsk: how about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rebFLh1Qt9A? :)
07:27.15Gngskyah, when i got it to it was kinda stale around here. used to send tapes back and forth to europe a bit
07:27.28GngskJaxon, /click ?
07:27.30asmodaiwow, my iGoogle got an overhaul :|
07:27.38Gngsklol
07:27.47sb|workmh new clock
07:27.51NeoTronyou can use /calendar
07:27.56Gngskahh, nice
07:28.35Jaxon...yeah, good idea, I didn't just spend five minutes digging through FrameXML files when I could've just tried that
07:28.38JaxonNeoTron: thanks.
07:28.43profalbertlua> string.find("Maelstrom Weapon,5", "%a+,%a+")
07:28.44lua_botprofalbert: nil
07:28.48Gngskall these youtubes make me really fear for my fate. one day i might find myself buyinhg some stupid 'best of the 90s techno' CD from BestBuy
07:29.14Gngskwhen that day comes remind me to commit suicide
07:29.19asmodaiGngsk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvBHEL-UVYQ :)
07:29.28profalbertlua> return string.find("asdf,asdf", "%a+", "%a+")
07:29.28lua_botprofalbert: luabot:1: bad argument #3 to 'find' (number expected, got string)
07:29.30Gngskomg omg, stop!
07:29.34asmodai:D
07:29.40asmodaino no no
07:29.44asmodaiI'll overload you :D
07:29.56profalbertlua> return string.find("asdf,asdf", "%a+,%a+")
07:29.57lua_botprofalbert: 1, 9
07:29.58asmodaiI didn't use drugs, so I *remember* the songs ;)
07:30.29Gngski'll be forced to surrender once you reach drum n bass
07:30.42asmodai*picks General Levy and M-Beat*
07:31.18Gngskkinda interesting when you listen to it like this though, quite a natural progression
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07:31.36asmodaiIn a lot of ways yes, especially with some of that old gear they had
07:31.57profalbertlua> mystring="asdf,5"; a1,a2 = string.find(mystring,"%a
07:31.58lua_botprofalbert: luabot:1: unfinished string near '<eof>'
07:32.18asmodaidarn, haven't heard this one in a while http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZspnU6THJrI
07:33.29Gngsknever heard it before, good though
07:33.33Gngsklight dnb
07:33.38asmodaiUK song for all I remember
07:33.44Gngskyah, sounds it
07:33.49asmodaiUK always was heavy on the D'n'B, dub, jungle
07:34.11asmodaiYou'd find more techno in Germany, and NL became dominated by hardcore (hardstep) on one side and mellow on the other.
07:34.15Gngskyah, i had an older sister who was big in the baltimore scene, back in the 90s why I know most this shit
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07:34.29Gngskturns out my new guild leader was big in the dnb scene up near toronto recently
07:34.32Gngskkinda ironic
07:34.51asmodaihahah, cool
07:35.17Gngskhe recently put me on some new stuff in a local forum post that put me all nostalgic why i linked my first youtube, heh
07:35.24Gngskfunny how one thing leads to another
07:36.29asmodaiThen you'll love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac
07:38.14Gngskno srsly, can't watch 18m youtubes
07:38.16Gngskmust sleep for work
07:38.24asmodaiIt's about the Amen Break
07:38.32Gngskyar yar
07:39.03sylvanaarlive is pretty special right now
07:39.15asmodailive? as in the band? xD
07:39.29Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1671 / (16 files in 8 directories):
07:39.29RepoNew minimap button code, the old stuff was too unreliable. More Tier 4/5/6 fixes.
07:39.38sylvanaar;)
07:39.51asmodaiOh btw, any of you know which addon changes the minimap to a square form?
07:39.59Gngsksqueenix by tekkub
07:40.04Gngsktekkub.net go go go
07:40.06xemacshi sylvanaar
07:40.29sylvanaarhi xemacs
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07:40.44Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh 04v5.01.00 * r1672 : Tagging as v5.01.00.
07:40.46Gngskman, that a really good youtube asmodai
07:40.48xemacsuhm you know about the problem regarding german and french locales (mabye others too)?
07:41.25xemacssomeone posted on the forums on that topic :o
07:41.27sylvanaaryes, but im not in one of them to test. if you want to do it you are welcome
07:41.34Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1673 Modules/AtlasLootFu/Locales.lua: Add German localisation to AtlasLootFu
07:41.35asmodaiGngsk: Yeah, it's amazing how many people don't know the history behind it
07:41.46asmodaithen again, I did too much music creation/djing back in the day :)
07:42.00xemacssure i could do that :P
07:42.14xemacsif you could provide me some patches :p
07:42.24sylvanaarpatches?
07:42.35Gngski mean, i could hear it, but i couldn't historialize it like this guy
07:42.36xemacspatches .. as in code fixes
07:42.39Gngskit's pretty entertaining
07:42.40Gngskcan't sleep!
07:42.42sylvanaarfor
07:42.53xemacsprat
07:43.06asmodaiGngsk: Sorry! :D
07:43.27xemacssorry forgot that to mentoin in my first message :o
07:43.30sylvanaaroh, the localizations need to be done, there arent any at the moment
07:43.41sylvanaaronly enUS, and somone just did ruRU
07:43.43asmodaiGngsk: that your site?
07:43.50sylvanaarthey are there, just commented out
07:43.52Gngskno it's tekkub's
07:43.58xemacsoh
07:43.59xemacsokay
07:43.59Gngskgood addons
07:44.04digmousechaos bolt is 2.0 or 2.5 sec cast now?
07:44.17xemacsi could do that for the deDE locales if you want :)
07:44.27sylvanaarsomeone needs to update them - sure that'd be great
07:44.36sylvanaargo right ahead
07:44.59digmousesylvanaar: the repos open? I'm gonna do zhCN and TW
07:45.04sylvanaaryes
07:45.13digmousek
07:45.18xemacsokay .. every "module" has its own locale section?
07:45.35xemacsor are there any other files with locales in them?
07:45.45sylvanaarmodule by module
07:45.47Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * 1.6.1-beta1-1-g5f7ca99 Data/Auras.lua: [+1 commit] possible fix for fast refreshing auras (drycoded)
07:45.54sylvanaarsame as before really
07:46.22xemacsokay
07:48.23asmodaiGngsk: random gripe: why do people appreciate drum solos, the real drums, that seemingly hit random stuff at full speed so much. It sounds like chaos to my ears.
07:49.09quiescensquick, someone name a good quest log addon
07:49.19digmousebestquest
07:49.26asmodaiI was use Fubar QuestFu
07:49.53Repo10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro * r140 / (14 files in 2 directories): ArkInventory:
07:49.54Repo- 3.01.09
07:50.03quiescensI just want something that takes the place of the existing quest log and can show more than 5 quests without scrolling
07:50.06quiescenslol
07:50.23[ArPharazon]hey guys - any ideas how to fix "attempt to call method 'SetTextColor' (a nil value)" ?
07:50.38quiescensthat's slightly
07:50.41quiescensvague
07:50.47[ArPharazon]aye
07:50.55quiescensshort version is settextcolor doesn't really exist
07:50.59asmodaiI am still wondering about ClearFont2's SystemFont: thinghy.
07:51.04[ArPharazon]well - according to the api changes, it has been removed from the button template
07:51.16xemacsuhm
07:51.27quiescensthere was a new thingy
07:51.28xemacssylvanaar some addons already have translations in them, what about these?
07:51.28[ArPharazon]however, i can still see it being used all over the latest framexml files
07:51.35xemacsdo they need a retranslation?
07:51.42quiescensbut I've misplaced it
07:52.18sylvanaarxemacs in most cases no, but they should be double checked
07:52.42xemacsokay :o
07:53.03Repo10omen-threat-meter: 03ananhaid 06omen_zh_temp * r2 / (3 files in 2 directories): Omen3:
07:53.03Repo- add zhCN Localization.
07:53.04Repo- Xinhuan help check and merge to trunk.
07:53.19Xinhuanwhoa
07:53.25asmodaihah
07:53.33quiescenslol
07:53.48asmodaidoes too much l10n/i18n in daily life :D
07:54.29xemacsuhm how should i provide the updated locales to you?
07:54.31xemacsas a .diff ?
07:54.42asmodaidiffs are always good :D
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07:55.35NeffiAnyone here have the beta client installed?
07:55.42Groktarya
07:55.55NeffiCan you tell me what your realmlist file points to?
07:56.19NeffiShould be in data/enUS now
07:57.29sylvanaarit gets put in config.wtf
07:58.03NeffiBut what's the URL?
07:58.14sylvanaarxemacs, you can check them in yourself
07:58.35Repo10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro 043.01.09 * r141 : Tagging as 3.01.09.
07:58.54sylvanaarxemacs or if you want to make a patch you can, i'd just check it in directly
07:59.42asmodaiwowinterface.com: Request block, This is to stop flooding of our server.
07:59.50asmodaisomething tells me they're overwhelmed. :)
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08:00.19Groktarsuspects Kalroth
08:00.30KalrothI did it, I confess!
08:00.41asmodaiKalroth: You will subsequently lashed in public.
08:00.48asmodaibe lashed even
08:01.37xemacsuhm
08:01.39KalrothKinky
08:01.47xemacsis there something like "escaping" in lua?
08:01.52asmodaiDet er :D
08:01.52xemacslike "\""
08:01.53xemacs?
08:02.27asmodaifor instance, you can escape the quote with a `\´, which is the escape character for Lua.
08:03.49xemacsokay that was my question :)
08:03.50xemacsthanks
08:04.08NeffiEscaping doesn't work in long-strings  ( [[ ... ]] )
08:04.23krkawhich is the whole point of long-strings
08:04.31Fisker-http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Fiskerdin <-armory talent bug = win bug
08:04.54NeffiMostly at least, but I was just letting him know
08:05.32NeffiSo, nobody can tell me what realmlist their beta client uses?
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08:08.34xemacssylvanaar , telltarget , timestamps and urlcopy where already correct you can remove the comments there
08:08.45Fisker-set realmlist 12.129.236.111
08:08.48Fisker-for EU
08:08.59NeffiI need US  =(
08:09.02Fisker-l2p
08:09.22durcyn12.129.236.126
08:09.30NeffiThe damn thing won't let me re-install my beta client 'cause the live version is already at patch 3+, so I need to set my live's install to the beta realmlist
08:09.38Neffidurcyn: Thanks
08:09.41durcynuh, that's not going to work
08:09.46Repo10talented: 03jerry * r307 / (7 files in 3 directories): Add import and export functions
08:09.51NeffiIt couldn't hurt to try
08:10.00durcynlive is 9056, beta is 9061
08:10.06NeffiShit
08:12.20NeffiWait, are the patches compatible?
08:12.33NeffiCould I just make a copy of my WoW directory, then have it patch to 61?
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08:13.29Kuja^Xinhuan: is there a reason for having 2 localization folders in the omen repository? one is with l capitalized, one not
08:13.46Xinhuanthere are?
08:13.48JY`does 9056 existed on beta ?
08:14.05durcynNeffi: you can try, but you'll need HKLM\Software\Blizzard Entertainment\World of Warcraft\3
08:14.07Kuja^Xinhuan: yeah :)
08:14.08asmodaiwotlk on DVD is 3.0.1
08:14.13JY`if 9056 ever existed on beta, then a 9056->90xx patch exists on beta update server
08:14.23durcynbeta was 9038-9061
08:14.28durcynyou might be fucked
08:14.28Xinhuani only see one o_O
08:14.29JY`fail :)
08:14.38JY`indeed
08:14.42Neffi"  The installer does not need to be applied. It requires a version of "Wow.exe" older than 2.4.0.8089, but you already have version 3.0.2.9056. "
08:14.47NeffiFucking
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08:15.10JY`you won a full wow reinstall up to 2.4.2
08:15.12Kuja^Xinhuan: http://ace.pastey.net/98533
08:15.31NeffiJY`: Not worth it
08:16.17Lenvikthen dont beta
08:16.22Xinhuanwell, i don't know Kuja^, i only have 1 folder
08:16.31erikhpatching brings me pain
08:16.39Xinhuanits the one with capital L
08:16.43Lenvikif you wanted a solution to that problem you'd need a new beta installer
08:16.44JY`wish a better patching system
08:16.53Lenvikwhich is going to take longer than just reinstalling
08:17.02clad|sleepTomTom updated to fix the right-click on map issue
08:17.03clad|sleepsorry bout hat :P
08:17.21Fisker-captures clad|away in a box
08:17.46JY`could the blizzard updater just detect all the patch between your version and live version, dl all patches, apply them and launch an up to date wow
08:17.50JY`with one run ?
08:17.52clad|awayFisker-: make a human with me on another server real quick so I can get an imp?
08:17.55clad|awayneed a pet class for testing
08:18.08clad|awayyour choice of server!
08:19.24clad|awayI vote for Karazhan
08:19.27digmousehunter on beta
08:20.12Fisker-:3?
08:20.15Fisker-awright
08:20.28clad|awayname is Mallaithe
08:20.34clad|awayjust need someone to help me kill the three-pull :P
08:20.42clad|awaycause i dont want to bother leveling
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08:22.58asmodaiThat's odd, Quartz worked last night, now it doesn't (at least for professions)
08:23.03Repo10craftygnome: 03Rabbit * r55 CraftyGnome.lua: Don't scan tradeskill links unless they're our own.
08:26.23XinhuanKuja^, not much i can do lol, there's only 1 folder on my end
08:26.51Xinhuanin fact, i'm using windows, so its not even possible for me to create a "Localization" and "localization" folder to begin with
08:27.26Xinhuanits gotta to be something on your end ;p
08:27.42vhaarrXinhuan: I have those too, and I've just done a normal checkout with no local modifications
08:27.48Xinhuanhmm
08:27.52Xinhuanhow can i fix it?
08:28.13Xinhuani dont' know how or why there's 2 folders, its impossible no windows to begin with, files aren't case sensitive
08:28.14vhaarrno idea, install linux?
08:28.18Xinhuanon*
08:28.41Xinhuanwhich folder has files in it vhaarr?
08:28.46vhaarrthey both do
08:28.47Kuja^both
08:28.52Xinhuano_O
08:29.05Repo10talented: 03jerry * r308 / (4 files in 3 directories):
08:29.06RepoChange the template DB from profile to global, so that they are
08:29.06Repoautomatically shared between all characters.
08:29.10vhaarrXinhuan: L has enUS and frFR, l has deDE
08:29.24asmodaiI only see Localization on my XP64 box
08:29.34Xinhuanwhat about zhTW?
08:29.36erikhon one hand, as a soft. eng I understand the kind of hell blizzard is probably going through right now, and the hell they went through to minimize it
08:29.36asmodaiwhich has deDE.lua in it
08:29.41vhaarrthat's .. because .. you're on a piece of shit OS called windows
08:29.41asmodaiand zhTW.lua too
08:29.52asmodaivhaarr: I could test on my BSD box :P
08:30.09erikhon the other hand, when I get home from work the last thing I want to do is get pissed because I have to run pretty much everything as administrator now
08:30.19vhaarrXinhuan: ah, just did an update now and L has esES, koKR and zhTW too
08:30.23vhaarrXinhuan: only deDE in l
08:30.37Xinhuanok somehting's seriously wrong now
08:30.40vhaarrXinhuan: if you tell me the git command to nuke the folder and commit, I can do it
08:30.44vhaarrI've never used git
08:30.50Fisker-how did you know it was me btw clad|away
08:30.54Xinhuanits not so smple vhaarr
08:31.00asmodaiprobably : git remove/delete; git commit
08:31.04Xinhuanhave to move the fules from one to the other
08:31.05Xinhuanfiles
08:31.05clad|awayFisker-: lol
08:31.06Fisker-must've been hax
08:31.22clad|awayi maphack
08:31.23clad|awaysurely
08:31.24Kuja^git mv then
08:31.26asmodaigit move localization/file Localization/file; git delete localization; git commit
08:31.29asmodaiI think
08:31.34asmodaiOnly use svn/hg/bzr
08:31.44Kuja^yeah, guess that should do it
08:32.16Fisker-~seen tuller
08:32.16purltuller <n=muffins@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 9h 27m 53s ago, saying: 'menu bar, rather'.
08:32.20clad|awaydo your glyphs gets cleared when you respec?
08:32.30Xinhuanclad|away no
08:32.33asmodaiclad|away: Shouldn't for all I know
08:32.35clad|awaygood
08:32.39Xinhuanyou can shift-right click to remove a glyph
08:32.53clad|awayheard rumor and didn't like it :P
08:32.55Xinhuanglyphs are removable, unlike gems
08:33.01Repo10quick-queue: 03Jazradel * r27 / (2 files in 1 directory): Updating for 3.02
08:33.06clad|awayyeah i knew that
08:33.32Xinhuanok i need to figure out which commit the problem started on hmm
08:33.37Repo10links: 03jerry 04v1.0-release * r100 : Tagging as v1.0-release.
08:34.07Xinhuanvhaarr: i think i figured it out
08:34.12vhaarralright
08:34.26Xinhuani typed "git add localization/deDE.lua" on Oct 14th
08:34.31Fisker-grr
08:34.37Fisker-a lot of stuff isn't running when offline
08:34.41Fisker-this aggrevates me greatly
08:34.51Xinhuanwhen i should have been using the capital letter L
08:34.56vhaarrright :p
08:37.59Fisker-I'm actually surprised
08:38.30Fisker-When speccing Pure of Heart (50% time reduction on curses and diseases) it's not like the same damage but over half the time
08:40.13asmodaipats Xinhuan
08:41.30erikhgit won't track a directory with no files (because all it realloy cares about is the diffs)
08:41.43Repo10talented: 03jerry * r309 embeds.xml: Fix embeds
08:42.45erikhhow is the curse client for mac holding up?
08:43.04erikhneed something to give to my wife, and I've heard enough bitching from mod authors in here about wowmatrix that I don't want to give her that.
08:43.49seebsHaven't successfully used it yet, but the auth servers were off yesterday.
08:43.52seebsI'll probably try it tomorrow.
08:44.10seebsWhat I do for my less-technical friends is basically do a UI pack for them.
08:44.11erikhthe curse auth servers?
08:44.21erikhseebs: you aren't married, are you?
08:44.23erikh:)
08:44.28asmodaierikh: fwiw: on my windows box it works quite ok
08:44.37erikhmy wife gets what she wants, or I get to weep at the strip club
08:44.51erikhasmodai: cool, i'll give it a shot
08:44.57erikhoh, windows, heh.
08:45.24Repo10specialeventsembed: 03Rabbit * r209 / (11 files in 9 directories):
08:45.24RepoPossibly fix SEEA and SEM for 3.0, removed Gratuity dependancy from SEM.
08:45.30seebsYah, married.  I play WoW instead of something else because my spouse is Mac-only.
08:45.45erikhsounds familiar.
08:45.46seebs(Actually, since then, I've dropped all Windows use, meaning I'm on WINE, which breaks a lot of mispackaged addons.)
08:46.10seebsTurns out that a fairly large proportion of addon authors never check the capitalization of file names in toc and xml files.  :)
08:46.24erikhbeen thinking about that, but I don't want to give up wmii for something friendlier to run wine under
08:46.33seebswmii?
08:46.40erikhthat and I'd have to disable one of the monitors to run SLI
08:46.48erikhseebs: http://suckless.org/wmii
08:46.54erikhwell, suckless.org at least
08:46.57erikhit's a tiling window manager
08:46.59seebsOoh, cool.
08:47.01vhaarrseebs: sure they do, there are plenty of authors here running linux and mac
08:47.13seebsI used ion and pwm for a long time.
08:47.15clad|awaymac is case-insensitive by default tho =/
08:47.16clad|awaybut yeah
08:47.21clad|awayI always check mine :P
08:47.24seebsMac systems are only supported in case-preserving mode, according to Apple.
08:47.24vhaarrsame
08:47.29erikhseebs: yeah, it uses the plan9 vfs to drive it
08:47.41erikhso you can control it with shell scripts, ruby (my preference), python, etc
08:47.45erikhanything you feel like
08:47.54erikhextremely powerful.
08:47.59seebsI grabbed something which had an XML file saying Libs/AceAddon, and a file named libs\AceAddon.  Note that that is a backslash in the name, not a directory separator.
08:48.22erikhand just the goddamn bee's knees for anything you need an assload of boxy text input type things for
08:48.28seebsI tend towards very minimal wm, because my basic goal is to have something that just lets WoW go full screen and stay out of my face.
08:48.35seebss/stay/stays/
08:48.43erikhseebs: yeah, i guess I could setup a second user for it
08:48.57seebsBTW, if you like Unixy things, I have a getopt clone for WoW.  I wrote it so my addons could take command line flags.  :)
08:48.58erikhstill would have the SLI issue, but I could work around that with a second display I imagine.
08:49.04erikh(X display, not hardware)
08:49.28erikhseebs: getopt.. for slash commands I assume/
08:49.42seebsYeah.
08:49.48erikhhuh; neat.
08:49.50seebsHandles -x -y foo etc
08:49.57erikhthat's awesome.
08:50.08erikhyou should go balls out and emulate libpopt
08:50.30seebsNo, no I shouldn't.
08:50.33erikhheh.
08:50.39seebsI wrote a full-fledged "does everything" option parser in about 1992.
08:50.43seebsI have since realized the error of my ways.
08:50.49erikhheh, everyone has to do it once.
08:51.22erikhjust like writing a pointless compiler, a database engine, and a mail client
08:51.27Repo10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 07master * RC2-1-gc9b5042 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Sigh at Windows. Rename localization\deDE.lua to Localization\deDE.lua
08:51.33seebsI never did the mail client, for some reason.  Did all the others.
08:51.42seebsI think by the time I would have done a mail client someone had pointed me at mh.
08:51.44Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4771 / (2 files in 2 directories):
08:51.45RepoFix custom bars for 3.0 and add oRA maintank scanning to Felmyst.
08:51.54XinhuanKuja^ or vhaarr: can you do a clean git pull again, and see if the localization folder still exists?
08:52.00erikhtrust me, there's no greater hell than IMAP.
08:52.01seebshttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7832-GetOpt.html <-- getopt, in lua.  Took about 2 hours tops.
08:52.23erikhreally, reading the source to TeX and qmail are breezes in comparison
08:52.29seebsOooooh, updated WowLua.
08:52.46vhaarrXinhuan: it's gone :)
08:52.52XinhuanExcellent
08:52.58Xinhuanthe zip script apparently
08:52.58clad|awayseebs: nothing changed
08:53.05Xinhuancreated the folder with small l
08:53.08clad|awaysince i had already released a wrath compat version
08:53.09Xinhuannot big L
08:53.14Xinhuanbut all 6 localizations are in it
08:53.21Xinhuanwhich is kind of annoying
08:53.31Xinhuanrather than 5 in L and 1 in l
08:53.32erikhso, uh, someone was trying to hack a p2p system out by using the guild calendar
08:53.37erikhdid anyone ever get a prototype of that out?
08:53.42seebsWell, thanks, Clad, it's an awesome mod.
08:54.35seebsLooks like my search for a mob health meter and an energy tick watcher can end.
08:55.59seebsUgh.  I just remembered I have a meeting in a tad over 5 hours.  I should probably sleep.
08:56.21seebsHave fun, all, enjoy modding things.
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09:01.24Zhinjiotooltip item comparison mod? Examiner still working?
09:02.10Repo10closet-gnome_mount: 03Rabbit * r102 ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: Stop erroring, but options still don't work.
09:02.30asmodaiZhinjio: I'm using Mirror
09:02.56Zhinjiohow's it working for you?
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09:04.03ArrowmastertekKompare works perfectly
09:06.25Repo10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 04RC3 * f41002d /: [new tag] Sigh at Windows. Rename localization\deDE.lua to Localization\deDE.lua
09:06.57Xinhuanthat reminds me to update my tekKompare
09:08.02Xinhuani searched "tekKompare" on google
09:08.06Xinhuanfirst link - www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6837
09:08.08Xinhuanwowi blocked it
09:08.20Xinhuansecond link http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6837-3.0.1.4-Release.html works though
09:08.29Arrowmasterjust pull from github.com/tekkub
09:08.53Repo10auto-res: 03Jazradel * r26 AutoRes.toc: Updating for 3.02
09:08.55Daemona~seen xuerian
09:08.57purlxuerian <n=core@wireless-216-222-137-237.citizip.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 54d 13h 7m 28s ago, saying: 'wtb "Hide Text" option'.
09:09.03XinhuanArrowmaster: i just checked it
09:09.09Daemonaso much for xloot tooltip fixing -.-
09:09.09Xinhuanlast update is August 18
09:09.14Xinhuanmeans not updated
09:09.14Fisker-WTF
09:09.23Fisker-does council only have 1 mill hp after patch?
09:09.23Arrowmasterworks though
09:09.31Xinhuanit doesn't work for talent links or achievement links
09:09.36Arrowmasterdoes too
09:09.43durcynbutsu > xloot anyway
09:09.44asmodaiDaemona: most of xloot works if you load outdated plugins
09:09.48Fisker-butsu?
09:09.53Daemonaasmodai i know
09:10.01Xinhuanhmm i'll checkout anyway
09:10.02Xinhuanbrb
09:10.07Daemonabut i played 1 hour now and have 2500+ tooltip errors logged in bugsack ^^
09:10.10Daemonathis CANT be good
09:10.12asmodaiouch
09:10.16durcynFisker-: www.ixo.no/git/
09:10.33Fisker-I want screenshots not text files
09:10.38durcyntough
09:10.41Daemonaand its tied to UIParent.lua ...
09:10.51Fisker-your mom
09:10.54asmodaiFisker-: heh, yeah, trying to find some screenshots too :)
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09:12.42asmodaiFisker-: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7976-Butsu.html
09:13.09Fisker-haste made it = it's shit
09:13.11sb|workdurcyn: true, or teksloot - but that doesnt include master-loot functionality
09:13.19sb|workwhich is my problem actually :)
09:13.35durcynsb|work: i use ammo's MasterLoot for that
09:13.46sb|worki need some master-loot addon :/ (random distribution, self loot, raid ordered by class, etc.)
09:13.54durcynand teksloot is group loot frames, butsu is for loot frames themselves
09:13.56sb|workoh
09:14.00sb|workthere is masterloot? :P
09:14.22durcynonly for the past six months or so
09:14.28XinhuanArrowmaster: thanks :)
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09:14.42Xinhuanpulled from github, made some local changes into a local branch :)
09:14.46asmodailikes xloot actually
09:14.57durcynhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/master-loot/
09:14.57Xinhuannow i can just pull to update in the future
09:15.21Arrowmasterwhat changes?
09:15.37Xinhuani merely commented out tekKompare.lua from loading
09:15.42Xinhuansince i only want the hovertips part
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09:15.47Arrowmasteroh
09:15.51sb|workdurcyn: mhh, i know that code, i think i used that thing already
09:15.52Adirellemorning
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09:16.01sb|workbut something has to be wrong, dont know why i switched back to xloot ;)
09:16.16durcynsb|work: works for me, does self, random, and by class, fwiw.
09:16.28sb|workmhh yes... wtf.. :)
09:16.51EthanCentauraigood morning Adirelle :)
09:17.09AdirelleEthanCentaurai: thanks :)
09:20.38BelazorDoes anybody know of a way to detect if you have a specified mount, or know of any addons that do this so I can look at for reference?
09:22.16wallenoh, Butsu, that's a new one
09:22.22wallengoing to check if it works with 3.0.2
09:27.50durcynit does
09:30.08Repo10cryolysis3: 03Belazor * r12 .pkgmeta: We don't need LPT for mounts anymore.
09:30.10DaemonaBelazor -> thecollector
09:30.17Daemonawill list any pet and mount you dont have
09:30.49BelazorI needed a way to detect the ones we DO have, and I found one :) but thanks for that though, will help with my achievement whoaring ;)
09:31.19Arrowmasteryeah i should get that
09:31.30Arrowmasterjust got 46/50 pets before the servers went down
09:31.33BelazorXD
09:31.45Arrowmasterthe skunk is mine soon
09:32.06Daemonamounts: 52/77 pets: 13/72 ;(
09:32.22Arrowmasterhttp://www.warcraftpets.com/account/profile.asp?user=arrowmaster#col
09:32.45TigerdyrDaemona: 52???
09:33.04Daemonasure, i grabbed a pvp mount after the achievement
09:33.09Daemonaand the achievement reward is a mount
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09:34.11Daemonawhat sucks about thecollector is ... it doesnt tell you where to get the pet ..
09:35.11Arrowmastersomebody needs to make an alliance character on my server so i can get the westfall chicken
09:36.17Daemonahmmm
09:36.29Daemonaanyone else having "a simple re-quest" reset itself every day?
09:37.20Arrowmasterwhats that?
09:37.21Daemonarepeat a daily quest for 5 consecutive days
09:37.31Arrowmasteroh yeah
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09:46.48Xinhuanyeah its bugged
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09:47.54Xinhuani ran 11 heroic instances yesterday in 5 hours hehe
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09:50.10Repo10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 07master * RC3-1-g07967b2 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add zhCN localization from ananhaid.
09:50.45ArrowmasterI HAS A SKUNK NOW!
09:50.59EthanCentauraiWTB Febreeze :P
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09:51.30EthanCentauraierr I mean congratulations Arrowmaster :D
09:51.44Arrowmaster52 pets
09:51.59EthanCentaurai40 more than me xD
09:52.34renchapArrowmaster: how many murlocs ?
09:52.41Arrowmaster0 =(
09:52.50renchap<= 2 murlocs :)
09:52.59EthanCentaurai1 :(
09:53.14Daemonasomeone needs to do a routes addon for mounts and pets :X
09:53.58EthanCentauraiactually Lurky isn't BoA even though he was given to those who had TBC CE :/
09:54.07Repo10bison: 03Grayal * r33 / (2 files in 1 directory): minor changes
09:54.26Repo10producer: 03Grayal * r6 / (5 files in 1 directory): first version
09:54.47EthanCentauraiprobably because he was compensation for Blizz EU's cock up
09:54.52Arrowmasterhttp://www.warcraftpets.com/account/profile.asp?user=arrowmaster#col
09:55.14Arrowmasterrenchap: getting a blizzcon bear in a few weeks though
09:55.25EthanCentauraiwarcraftpets is down for database maintenance :/
09:55.50Arrowmasterit is?
09:55.55Arrowmasteri just updated my list lol
09:55.58DaemonaTastes like Chicken !
09:56.02Arrowmasterright before i linked that
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09:56.15EthanCentauraiflushes his internet cookies
09:56.22Repo10producer: 03Grayal * r7 : first version
09:56.24EthanCentauraiah there we go :)
09:56.56dieckI think you may have flushed your cache, because the cookies aren't responsible for "old" data :)
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10:03.25Mundyzdoes anyone know if grid is likely to be updated?
10:03.32Mundyzhaven't been able to find much info on it =/
10:04.03Mundyzah
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10:04.05Mundyznevermind
10:04.18Mundyzturns out im just a gigantic idiot
10:05.51Belazorrepo broke? :(
10:05.57Belazoroic :p
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10:06.12BelazorI blame kaelten
10:10.47Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r4772 / (16 files in 11 directories): BigWigs:
10:10.48Repo- add some local(waterfall config)
10:10.49Repo- koKR Update
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10:12.35Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1674 / (4 files in 3 directories):
10:12.36RepoFixed a missing library from the package.  Didn't find it because my server was down.
10:13.15Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh 04v5.01.01 * r1675 : Tagging as v5.01.01.
10:17.00Repo10alt-click-to-add-item: 03Xinhuan * r49 / (4 files in 1 directory):
10:17.00RepoRemove tsvn:logtemplate. Update the addon code to actually work. Remove embeds.xml and put its contents into the TOC. Update version to 1.2.
10:17.29Repo10alt-click-to-add-item: 03Xinhuan 04v1.2 * r50 : Tag v1.2
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10:17.43Repo10bison: 03Grayal * r34 Bison.toc: minor changes
10:17.56Repo10producer: 03Grayal * r8 / (3 files in 1 directory): first version
10:22.02mitch0what is bison?
10:22.52thula big cow
10:25.29Elkano~project bison
10:25.37Elkano!project bison
10:25.48mitch0I couldn't find it on wowace
10:25.53Elkanohmmm... can't recall the command
10:26.08mitch0@project bison
10:26.09Repomitch0: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bison/. Bison. Game: WoW. Status: Changes required. A proper longer description and maybe a screenshot  would be nice. Leader: Grayal. Updated: 2 days ago
10:26.28sb|workhaha :P
10:26.46mitch0it returns 404...
10:27.57sb|workhm yup, i think changes required = not yet approved
10:29.33mitch0wtf, they killed hunter deadzone?
10:29.43mitch0just when I implemented deadzone checking :(
10:30.11sb|workhaha
10:30.14sb|work:)
10:31.50vhaarrXinhuan: if I make the omen background transparent and hide the borders and stuff, I get a white line between each column in the display
10:32.38Mundyzcan anyone help me with http://ace.pastey.net/98537
10:33.17Xinhuanyes vhaarr, those are resizing grips for the columns
10:33.25Xinhuanlock your omen and they disappear
10:33.37vhaarrXinhuan: ah
10:33.47Xinhuanmaybe i should add that into the FAQ
10:33.53Xinhuanbecause i'm getting asked that a lot
10:34.00mitch0erm, why isn't LibRangeCheck-2.0 a valid name for Package As: ?
10:34.20Xinhuanmitch0: the .pkgmeta file cannot contain tabs
10:34.22vhaarrXinhuan: indeed, disappeared now, what about the header, can I hide it?
10:34.26Xinhuando you have tabs?
10:34.37Xinhuancurrently no vhaarr, but i'll try to add that in this weekend
10:34.42vhaarrah
10:34.43mitch0xin: I got that error from the repo admin page
10:34.44vhaarrcool
10:34.46Xinhuanat the moment, right-clicking on the title
10:34.48Xinhuanbrings up a menu
10:34.50mitch0wanted to change the zip generation
10:34.55Xinhuanand there's some options in it that isn't anywhere else
10:35.02Xinhuanso i dont' want to hide it just yet
10:35.08mitch0and it doesn't let me save that 'cos of that Package As thing
10:35.21vhaarrmitch0: try putting it in quotes, "LibRangeCheck-2.0"
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10:36.26mitch0vhaarr: no luck
10:37.08syerenHello, does anyone have 5 minutes to spare to help me modify an addon that I'm using? It requires changing XML, and I have never done it befre :/
10:38.36mitch0could be some url encoding problem or somesuch...
10:39.50mitch0damn
10:40.13mitch0which "package as" takes precedence? .pkgmeta, or the wowace repo settings?
10:40.21Arrowmaster.pkgmeta
10:40.27Arrowmasterand its package-as
10:40.43Arrowmasterand im going to bed
10:40.56mitch0ok, 'cos now the repo admin let me change hte "Package As" to some dumb thing
10:41.01mitch0and I can't change it back :(
10:42.27Mundyzanyone know what is causing this error? http://ace.pastey.net/98537
10:45.46syerenRabbit.
10:45.49syerenYou're awesome.
10:45.57syerenYou may give me an answer which helps.
10:46.29syerenI have 3 addons whcih require Ace2 to work, however when I am using Ace 2, I get this error constantly.
10:46.30syerenhttp://pastey.net/98539
10:46.37mitch0so, all of the huntard shots are now 5-N yard range?
10:47.00syerenEverytime I have asked how I can fix it in here, people have pretty much said let it die, which doesn't help considering stuff like Big Wigs needs Ace 2 :/
10:48.17nevcairielsyeren: that bug shouldve been hopefully fixed
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10:50.14Repo10range-display: 03mitch0 * r161 / (2 files in 1 directory): merged in multi-frame2 branch
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10:52.38Repo10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 * r7 Track-o-Matique.lua:  (Message trimmed by 2 lines)
10:52.39Repo* Added a lot of conditionals to the automatic tracking option.
10:52.40RepoIt is now possible to limit automatic tracking to:
10:52.41Repo- while in party/raid
10:52.45Repo- while talented with Improved Tracking
10:53.22mitch0poll: is it worth keeping the "deadzone" check just for warriors/druids charge?
10:53.48mitch0suppose not...
10:56.36Repo10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 041.4beta1 * r8 : Tagging 1.4beta1
10:58.22Repo10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant * r71 / (2 files in 1 directory):
10:58.23RepoFuBar_ConvergeFu: Updated 'externals' property for revised position of Tablet-2.0 library.
10:59.50Tinyboomanyone here maintaining craftlist2? atm it makes my chat silent, can't see what others or I type in any kind of chat...
11:00.30Repo10librangecheck-2-0: 03mitch0 * r22 LibRangeCheck-2.0/LibRangeCheck-2.0.lua: removed the now kinda pointless deadzone check :(
11:03.47Repo10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant * r72 / (2 files in 1 directory):
11:03.48RepoFuFuBar_ConvergeFu: Updated the ToC file to indicate this addons is compatible with Patch 3.0.x for WoW.
11:05.15Repo10handy-notes_flight-masters: 03durcyn * r60 HandyNotes_FlightMasters.lua: Stormwind map changed, move flightmaster to his new home.
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11:08.18nevcairiellol
11:08.25nevcairielsomeone fails
11:09.00nevcairielOr the web script does
11:09.02nevcairielhuh
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11:11.59Repo10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant 04v3.29-Darkshore-WoW-3.0.2 * r74 :
11:11.59RepoFuBar_ConvergeFu: Tagging as a proper release quality version.
11:12.24durcynlooks like the former, then. :o
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11:15.58Fisker-Anyone been to BT after patch?
11:17.37Pneumatusonly sunwell and all pre-bc raids so far :)
11:17.53Pneumatusprobably wont go to BT until we get KJ dead now
11:18.09Xinhuanlol
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11:18.25Xinhuannevcairiel: i think the -m "blah" option has to come before the tag name ;p
11:18.48Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * 1.6.1-beta1-2-gec84d33 Data/Cooldowns.lua: [+1 commit] possible fix for the Cooldown-ready-spam when changing
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11:18.55Fastionly thing difficult in KJ is now that if you dps him too fast, you are in trouble :P
11:19.04Xinhuantoo fast? why
11:19.09nevcairielXinhuan: nah it should work in that order too
11:19.26Fastior if you got more healers, should be fine I guess
11:19.28Xinhuanon our 2nd night on KJ we got him to 11%, no issues!
11:19.37Xinhuanwe even had 2 dragon orb dragons up at the same time
11:20.12Xinhuanwhich was kinda hilarious, since on KJ's ultimate, you could dual shield to cover a really big area
11:20.23Xinhuanthat resembles boobs ;p
11:20.59Pneumatuswe got KJ to 40% on our third try of the night last night before we called the raid end
11:21.19Pneumatuswhich happened to be our third try ever, also
11:21.26durcynwe killed him in i think two and a half minutes this week
11:21.32Xinhuansunwell is a pretty big joke now
11:21.35durcynit was kind of disappointing
11:21.46Xinhuani think the nerfs were a bit overdone
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11:22.30Pneumatusone guild on our realm that was still struggling with brut managed to kill him last night, but still couldnt kill felmyst
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11:23.03durcynfelmyst still does magic damage ;)
11:23.17Xinhuandid you kill muru before 2nd sentinel spawned?
11:23.23Xinhuanhis hp is a super big joke now
11:23.41durcyni think we had two, melee forgot to get back on him after the first (and only) darkness
11:24.30PneumatusXinhuan: muru dropped for us just as the 2nd sentinel was spawning, and a humanoid pack spawning
11:24.51Xinhuanfocus less on kiling the adds and you'll have muru down before 2nd wave
11:25.13Xinhuani'm not sure if the huge nerfs were warranted
11:25.13Xinhuanbut
11:25.20Xinhuan99% of ppl didn't see naxx at end of TBC
11:25.34Xinhuanbut at least a good portion of wow players will see KJ now before wrath
11:25.44Xinhuancan't decide if its a good or bad thing
11:26.03Fisker-Someone said that Council's shared hp is 1 mil now
11:26.04Fisker->:3
11:26.16Xinhuanyeah so 4 mil in total?
11:26.32Pneumatuswell for me, its a good thing... we were cockblocked at muru and at least we're gonna get KJ down now
11:26.33Fisker-Nah he meant 1 mil in total
11:26.34Fisker->:E
11:26.52Xinhuani wonder if the wowhead/etc dataminers updated their data mining addons to upload HP/mana values
11:26.59Xinhuanof mobs
11:27.25Pneumatuskalecg is still a retard check though, you're not gonna get people that cant clear T5 instances downing bosses in sunwell without practice
11:27.51Pneumatusand there's only 4 weeks to practice
11:28.04Xinhuannot really that much of a check anymore
11:28.15Repo10wf3sec: 03Heda * r66 / (2 files in 1 directory): WF3sec: libs update
11:28.16Xinhuanonly takes like 4 portal spawns to kill him
11:28.27Xinhuanrather than like 10 or 12
11:28.45Xinhuanhealers can just spam max rank and never oom because combat durations are so short
11:28.46PneumatusXinhuan: our problem last night was dragon was nearly dead and demon didnt have enough dps
11:28.57Pneumatuswe had to send half the dps through the 4th/5th portal to nuke him
11:29.01Xinhuanalso prot dps is now crazy
11:29.15Pneumatusthere's one thing more crazy than prot dps
11:29.15Xinhuantanks are doing like 3100 TPS
11:29.18PneumatusJoL healing
11:29.25Xinhuanyour top DPS is only doing about 2k TPS
11:29.32Xinhuanthere's no way you can pull aggro now
11:29.37XinhuanJoL healing is lol... 5400 HPS
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11:29.55Pneumatusi was hitting 4000 hps with circle of healing
11:30.04Pneumatusbut nowhere near out JoL paladin
11:30.26Xinhuanmight be handy if recount has an option to disable counting JoL
11:30.34Xinhuanto see the actual healing done by the pally
11:30.56Pneumatusyeh, it's kind of a poinless heal to show in healing done for comparison
11:30.59sb|work13:25 < Xinhuan> healers can just spam max rank and never oom because combat durations are so short
11:31.03sb|workyah
11:31.08sb|workbut i think THATS the reason for the HP nerf
11:31.16Xinhuani highly doubt it
11:31.18sb|workits impossible to spam (which is needed) for much longer
11:31.20Pneumatusi went oom at twins :)
11:31.26Xinhuaneven i found it difficult to oom as a fire mage
11:31.29Pneumatusonly because i healed like a nutcase
11:31.32sb|worktwins +2 minutes = impossible :p
11:31.39sb|workwith current manareg + heal needed
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11:31.53Xinhuanmana pots
11:32.05Xinhuanthey are still meant to be used like before!
11:32.16Pneumatusoh, well i didn't use mana pots :P
11:32.17Xinhuandid you notice drums has no cooldown? only heroism does
11:32.25Xinhuanas in a debuff
11:32.32Pneumatusshadowfiend + symbol of hope
11:32.37profalbertdrums have no debuff?
11:32.42Xinhuanya
11:32.42Pneumatusno, not yet
11:32.47Xinhuannot on live
11:32.54Xinhuanu still can do drum rotations
11:32.57Pneumatusheroism gives a 5 min debuff tho
11:33.09Pneumatusand pot cooldowns dont start till you drop ooc
11:33.20sb|workXinhuan: its 1 mana potion per fight, still :P
11:33.27profalbertso a single player can provide a whole group with drums w/o interrpution?
11:33.31Xinhuan3k mana is 3k mana ;p
11:33.35Xinhuanwith the alcheny trinket
11:33.36sb|workyes... :)
11:33.40Xinhuanits even more
11:34.03Xinhuanprofalbert, it has cooldown on the item, i mean there is no debuff to prevent rebuffing like heroism
11:34.13Xinhuanthey mentioned they wanted to add a 2 min debuff for drums
11:34.16Xinhuanlike heroisn
11:34.18Pneumatusi fucking love mixology for raids
11:34.22thulmixology?
11:34.34Pneumatus4 hour flasks > all other profession benefits
11:34.41Xinhuanyou should try this:
11:34.44Xinhuango run a 5-man heroic
11:34.52Xinhuanbring 2 prot warriors, a druid, a mage and a ret pally
11:35.07Xinhuanthe prot warriors aoe everything, shockwave, blah blah
11:35.11Xinhuanmage and ret pally aoes
11:35.18Xinhuaneverything just dies SPLAT
11:35.28profalbertleeeeeeeeeeeeroy
11:35.31thulwhat are we rogues supposed to do? :-(
11:35.39Mikkgo "lol i hit one thing"
11:35.44thul:-(
11:35.47Xinhuanthe ret pallies like "my mana regen is infinite"
11:35.50Xinhuanand i struggle to drink
11:35.56Xinhuanand the druid innervates me everytime its up
11:36.05Xinhuan20 min per heroic lol
11:36.11thulthe more fun casters and hybrids have, the less fun is left over for us melee dps :-(
11:36.25sb|workhuh? killing spree is fun :p
11:36.31PneumatusXinhuan: take a priest to heal, and have them holy nova tbh
11:36.42Pneumatuswhich will keep everyone topped up
11:37.07Xinhuanthe blood furnace felguards are still painful hehe
11:37.24thul:-(
11:37.24Repo10bison: 03Grayal * r35 Bison.lua: minor changes
11:37.30thulI have to quit wow :-(
11:38.17vhaarrsyeren: wut?
11:39.31nevcairielHm, LDB display that makes minimap buttons, anyone?
11:39.41Zhinjiobutton bin?
11:39.47vhaarrbarrel
11:39.52Repo10producer: 03Grayal * r9 : first version
11:40.42fauxpas`any update on a 3.0.2.-compatible version of numen? or a different decent totem addon?
11:40.42MikkI still think LDB is a piss-poor name
11:40.54vhaarrI agree with Mikk
11:41.14MikkDevs can get it well enough. Users go "huh?"
11:41.42vhaarrit should be called LibDisplay or something crap
11:41.58MikkIconsAnywhere or something
11:42.16vhaarrLibFuBar4
11:42.18Mikklmao
11:42.42MikkHaving said that, I wouldn't mind the least if it was used as LibFuBar4
11:42.57vhaarrindeed, it's in my todo
11:43.06vhaarrdunno if I'll ever get to it though
11:43.27MikkI just think it needs a catchy and understandable name that can be common to the components and displayers
11:43.32Mikk"Fu" was good
11:43.44MikkNot that it's particularily understandable
11:43.49vhaarrBroker isn't that bad
11:44.01Zhinjioin theory .. the library is invisible to the users tho.
11:44.06MikkAnyBar
11:44.19Zhinjioalthough, you are essentially prepending all the compatible addons with broker_ or whatever
11:44.23MikkZhinjio: Except users still need to know what works with what
11:44.28Zhinjioyeah
11:44.44Navv_can .pkgmetas contain git externals in this wowace thing?
11:44.48vhaarranyone is free to add LDB support to FuBar btw
11:44.49vhaarrNavv_: yes
11:44.54PneumatusNavv_: absolutely
11:44.59Pneumatusthat's the whole point in it!
11:45.14Mikkvhaarr: Well.. there _IS_ Broker2FuBar... but it's standalone
11:45.34Navv_well, so far it seems most (if not all?) are svn externals, at least on the addons I use
11:45.36Xinhuanhas anyone tried both Fortress and StatBlocks?
11:45.36Pneumatusb2f is also very restrictive, as you lose all right-click functionality on any button
11:45.49Navv_how is that in general btw, is wowace/curse promoting the use of git, instead of svn?
11:45.58vhaarrMikk: I mean, anyone is free to code it directly into fubar proper
11:46.02XinhuanNavv_: no promotion
11:46.07Navv_choose what you wan?
11:46.07Xinhuanits up to author preference
11:46.08MikkNavv_: none. they're all loved.
11:46.09Navv_want
11:46.10Navv_ye
11:46.11PneumatusNavv_: people are using what they are most happy with
11:46.15Navv_okay, thanks
11:46.25Xinhuanmany of us are liking git because merging is easy with it
11:46.39quiescensflip a coin
11:46.41MikkNavv_: But it you want to co-op with others, svn is the safe choice. Everyone has it.
11:46.45Mikkit=if
11:46.56vhaarrsvn aslo makes perfect sense, git doesn't
11:47.00vhaarralso*
11:47.01Mikkhaha
11:47.09StanzillaPneumatus: that right click stuff was fixed yesterday imo
11:47.13Navv_well, I'm not taking any sides :) use what you feel is best, I think
11:47.17Navv_and what gets the work done for you
11:47.22PneumatusStanzilla: i'll check for an update then :)
11:47.25vhaarrexactly
11:47.26Navv_just curious if there were any policies on that
11:47.31Navv_or recommendations
11:47.37MikkI'm sticking with svn for right now. Mostly because I can't be arsed to learn yet ANOTHER vcs.  Zzz.
11:47.39durcynnah, use whatever you like.
11:47.47Xinhuani am using both now as it is
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11:48.18vhaarrMikk: right, and when you've learned git, everyone will be on hg or something
11:48.19MikkAnd yeah SVN could totally do with a better 3way merger
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11:48.39Xinhuan3 way merge in git is totally win!
11:48.39Mikkmaybe steal git's
11:48.40vhaarrsvn works fine, stop trying to be cool with git, Xinhuan
11:48.49Mikkvhaarr: huhu, i hope not
11:48.50Xinhuanhey now, i still use svn on MOST of my addons
11:48.56Pneumatushurrah, i can finally use closetgnomes rightclick menu!
11:49.05vhaarr"look at me, I wear sunglasses, hang around in cafes with my macbook and commit using git"
11:49.11Mikkhahahahaha
11:49.21Xinhuanstabs vhaarr with a pillow
11:49.31quiescenso.o
11:49.33Navv_okay, another stupid question possibly, since I know nothing of git: how are branches/tags handled in the wowace repo for git? Or are there even such things?
11:49.37quiescensstabs xinhuan with a pillow
11:49.40Xinhuanmy pillows are very pointy :)
11:49.42MikkI think you need to work 4chan or facebook into there somewhere
11:50.04XinhuanNavv_: they are handled like you expect any svn or git repo
11:50.16MikkExcept he doesn't know git
11:50.20Navv_:)
11:50.21MikkSO!
11:50.27Navv_I know svn, not git really
11:50.33Navv_outside of git clone or git pull :)
11:50.55Xinhuanin git, you give a specific commit a name, and that is essentially a tag
11:51.03Pneumatusi've got a feeling git is gonna remain an outsider due to the fact there's no decent windows interface for it
11:51.06Xinhuanthere is no copying anywhere in git
11:51.14Xinhuanit simply creates a tag object
11:51.25Xinhuanthat points to a particular commit
11:51.31Xinhuanwhich it represents
11:51.46MikkWhich is basically what svn does too fwiw =)
11:51.58MikkIt just shows up as a folder =)
11:52.00Xinhuansvn's tagging is really just svn cp
11:52.07MikkAye, but svn cp is tagging!
11:52.10MikkAll to confuse you! \o/
11:52.28Xinhuanin that regard, if you lookup wikipedia, you'll find that they list SVN as not having tag specific features
11:52.41MikkYeah yeah yeah :P
11:52.43Xinhuansince any CVS can make branches
11:52.59MikkI'm just saying that "svn cp" doesn't copy files. It just enters a single record "hai, this path == that path at rev foo"
11:53.09Mikk== tagging
11:53.11Mikkkinda
11:53.45MikkAnd I'm really mostly being a hair-splitting ass here because I need an excuse to not do what I SHOULD be doing
11:53.58Navv_yes, im doing the exact same thing atm
11:53.59Mikkthinks of another less annoying one: fetching more coffee
11:58.47vhaarrStanzilla: care to fix .pkgmeta and the unpacking for SpecialEventsEmbed?
11:58.54vhaarryou did it so well on bw+ora2
11:59.03StanzillaI can look at it later
12:00.18quiescensckknight: LibDogTag-Unit-3.0\Categories\Misc.lua could do with having events = "PLAYER_COMBO_POINTS;UNIT_COMBO_POINTS" if it doesn't already
12:00.45quiescensor is it only UNIT_COMBO_POINTS now
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12:02.37Repo10producer: 03Grayal * r11 / (2 files in 1 directory): first version
12:02.38Repo10range-display: 03mitch0 * r162 / (3 files in 2 directories): removed deadzone check, added medium range section
12:02.51Repo10banana-dkp: 03Rabbit * r115 BananaDKP.lua: Bugfix.
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12:03.07Repo10specialeventsembed: 03Rabbit * r210 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fix .pkgmeta.
12:05.16sb|workuhm vhaarr, you changed some ora code, did that also fix ora raid cooldowns?
12:05.24vhaarrwere they broken?
12:05.28sb|workmhh, think so
12:05.34vhaarrwhat, specifically?
12:05.35durcynseemed fine to me earlier today
12:05.39vhaarrye should be fine
12:05.43sb|workmh, happened to me once
12:06.04sb|worksomething happened and all cooldowns started at 30:00
12:06.17sb|work(all shaman, all druid, all pally)
12:07.00nevcairielI had the same thing
12:07.06nevcairielbut it happend all the time
12:07.10nevcairielall cooldowns on the same time
12:08.02Repo10cryolysis3: 03Belazor * r14 / (2 files in 2 directories): All buttons now have actions.
12:08.32quiescenshmm
12:08.48quiescensdo both player_combo_points and unit_combo_points events exist
12:09.01vhaarrplayer_ was removed in 3.0
12:09.48Pneumatusanyone know of an addon like FishingAce that works in 3.0?
12:11.08quiescensokay, just unit_combo_points then
12:11.43durcynPneumatus: FishermansFriend is working fine
12:12.26mitch0could someone help me with an AceDB3 thingy? what is the best way to specify defaults, so that most of it is the same for every class, but some values are different by class
12:12.28Repo10cryolysis3: 03Belazor 04v3.0-beta1 * r15 : Tagging as v3.0-beta1.
12:14.25Jyggafishingbuddy?
12:14.34BelazorTinyboom: ping
12:14.38Zhinjiofishing buddy is fail right now
12:14.52ZhinjioI just tried it out
12:15.01Repo10range-display: 03mitch0 * r163 localizations/localization-enUS.lua: removed deadzone section localization
12:15.42Repo10specialeventsembed: 03Stanzilla * r211 / (6 files in 1 directory): .pkgmeta magic
12:17.01Stanzillathat failed..
12:17.31Stanzillait didn't move the folders
12:18.05Stanzillaah
12:18.38Repo10specialeventsembed: 03Nevcairiel * r212 .pkgmeta: Fix .pkgmeta properly :P
12:18.42Stanzillabah
12:18.46nevcairielalso, dont use tabs
12:18.46StanzillaI was about to commit!
12:18.47nevcairieluse spaces
12:19.49nevcairielI still question the need of the loot module in SEE
12:19.57nevcairieli always have to hack it up to disable that fucking warning
12:20.04nevcairieli dont want loot spam enabled
12:20.11Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r1676 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update
12:20.30vhaarrnevcairiel: afaik it's only used by that XLoot or whatever it's called
12:21.08Navv_hm, why does one have to move the folders like in that specialembeds btw
12:21.22Navv_doesnt the addon work without moving them? the modules.xml seems to be doing some magic at least, that loads them
12:23.01Repo10specialeventsembed: 03Stanzilla * r213 Libs/: Gratuity svnexternal removed.
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12:29.08Repo10range-display: 03mitch0 * r164 RangeDisplay.lua: slightly nicer colors
12:30.46Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r1677 Modules/AtlasLootFu/Locales.lua: Add frFR
12:31.06dieckhm. is wowmatrix a good alternative to the curse client, or has it major flaws?
12:31.32nevcairielyou will be hated by all if you use it
12:31.40nevcairieland probably breaking some laws too
12:31.41dieckand that's because?
12:31.46elite3vilThey're bad.
12:32.16dieckok. so is Microsoft, but I'm still using Windows :)
12:32.16Repo10omen-threat-meter: 03ananhaid 06omen_zh_temp 04Omen-zh * r3 : Tagging as Omen-zh.
12:32.25durcynwowmatrix has engaged in some rather questionable practices in the past
12:32.37durcynit's highly recommended to steer clear of them
12:33.21BelazorCryolysis is more popular than I thought :O 10 minutes and 40 downloads XD
12:33.24elite3vilspeaking of the client, anyone having connection issues right now?
12:35.11dieckok. is there any other updater beyond curse and wow ui updater?
12:38.00syerenCould anyone suggest a simple mount addon? I don't know how to make a Mount macro anymore :<
12:38.13syerenThe onle I currently use ends up using my Elekk -_-
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12:38.59mitch0dieck: svn/git
12:39.11mitch0:)
12:39.26elite3vildieck: What mitch0 meant is: no.
12:39.40elite3vil=P
12:40.09mitch0can a whole option group be disabled? if so, can some sub options in that group be enabled regardless? (talking AceConfig3)
12:40.12syerenFound one!
12:40.27Xinhuanmitch0: yes, no
12:40.40mitch0damn
12:41.05syerenLyn: You fiend.
12:41.13syerenReleased LynTotemTimers yet ????
12:41.27sb|workhmm totemtimers
12:41.45mitch0(the config code to my addon is larger and haerier than the core ... :()
12:42.39Xinhuanmitch0: guess why so many addons come with no config options! :)
12:42.48Lynsyeren, i just fixed it. but its totally different than the old.. so i dont think you'll like it (i also disabled the buttonfacade support) :p
12:42.58syerenWow you suck!
12:43.00syeren:(
12:43.08Lynlol
12:43.22Lynit's for personal use, so if you dont like it, stfu and gtfo
12:43.26syerenMy guilld member told me not to make your next release suck as much.
12:43.35LynQQ
12:43.40syerenNo idea what's he's talking about though!
12:43.53Lynthen go on nachtwache and bother gaius
12:44.26mitch0I need someone to write the config code for me :)
12:44.26Lyni even disabled the config, cause his way on using saved variables suck balls
12:44.32mitch0or at least design a sane layout...
12:44.35dieckelite3vil: actually, I could do with git/svn, but my friends can't :)
12:44.43syerenLyn, Kollektiv added Totems to his unit frames :D
12:44.52Lynund wen juckt kollektiv?
12:44.54Lyn:p
12:45.03syerenAlthough if you have time you could help me change a couple of things, it's XML and I don't understand :(
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12:46.05syerenLyn: PM
12:46.05syeren!
12:46.40mitch0AceDB will return 'false', not 'nil' for "registered" fields, right?
12:47.24sb|workwtf are you talking about Lyn? :O
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12:47.47Lynsb|work, hm?
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12:51.07qzis it possible to get full tooltip text from tradeskill name?
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12:56.54Repo10range-display: 03mitch0 * r165 / (3 files in 2 directories): config improvements
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13:08.02mitch0how do I upload screenshots for my addon on cf?
13:09.27sztanpetUpload Image
13:09.43mitch0where?
13:09.55mitch0manage project drops me back to wowace
13:09.58sztanpetat the images?
13:12.05mitch0oh, so all images are thrown together?
13:12.13Repo10omen-threat-meter: 03ananhaid 06omen_zh_temp * r4 Localization/zhCN.lua: Omen3:
13:12.14Repo- typo zhCN Localization.
13:12.27mitch0still doesn't get it
13:12.37mitch0Omen3 for example has its own screenshots
13:13.45mitch0xin: how did you add screenshots to Omen? (on cf)
13:14.02balstorhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/lOmen/images/
13:14.02Xinhuani didn't add any
13:14.10Xinhuanthey were leftover remains from omen2
13:14.17mitch0ah
13:14.19mitch0damn
13:14.21balstorand then under Images is a dropdown to upload images
13:14.27Xinhuanbut omen3 can be made to look exactly like omen2
13:14.35Xinhuanin fact it offers more options, so heh
13:15.16mitch0balstor: thanks!
13:15.29mitch0(omen2 looked crap, imo)
13:15.33mitch0it was too bulky
13:15.45mitch0btw, does omen3 have pullout-bar?
13:16.11Xinhuanno heh
13:16.27mitch0that was the single best feature of omen (when it didn't bug) :(
13:16.40Xinhuanwait, explain to me again why it was useful
13:16.50mitch0it was a single bar
13:16.55mitch0with all the info I needed
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13:17.21Repo10ignore-more: 03mikk * r38 / (2 files in 1 directory): IgnoreMore:
13:17.22Repo- 3.0 update
13:17.22Repo- Use ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter instead of hooking
13:17.24Repo- No longer hardcoded support for Chatr and ForgottenChat. They should query the message filters themselves.
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13:17.42Xinhuani'm having trouble understanding how it was useful heh, considering your tank might not be targetting anything
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13:17.50Xinhuanor that he might not even be tanking
13:18.04Xinhuanand having your threat shown relative to his seems stupid
13:18.29mitch0xin: well, it worked for me *shrug*
13:18.44Xinhuanwell lets say you have a pull out bar for tankA
13:18.49Xinhuantank B taunted off tank A
13:18.53Xinhuanand is higher on threat now
13:18.59Xinhuanwhat does the pulloutbar say for tank A?
13:19.03mitch0xin: no, I had a pulloutbar for me
13:19.17mitch0there was a special pullout bar
13:19.29mitch0or something :)
13:19.44Xinhuanin otherwords, you just want a "my % against curent target" bar?
13:19.54mitch0maybe it only showed threat to current threat leader on my target
13:20.04mitch0s/to/relative to/
13:20.04Xinhuanthat's already in the default UI - assuming you use default unit frames
13:20.24mitch0I won't
13:20.34Xinhuanyou shuld be bugging unit frame authors to add a "threat %" indicator on target frames
13:20.35Xinhuan:)
13:20.38mitch0(right now I haven't played a bit outside IF, testing my addons :)
13:20.48syerensylvanaar: Ping Pong.
13:24.01Repo10ignore-more: 03mikk 041.0.4 * r39 : Tagging as 1.0.4. (WoW 3.0)
13:27.33Repo10specialeventsembed: 03Rabbit * r214 SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0/SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0.lua: Fix upgrade path for SEM.
13:28.12sb|workXinhuan: does omen3 have some AE mode?
13:28.25Xinhuannot possible without combat log parsing and guessing
13:28.30Xinhuanaka threat-3.0
13:28.36sb|workmhh, i see
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13:28.49sb|workso the API only returns data for your current target!?
13:28.58Xinhuanit only returns data for reachable units
13:29.00sb|workor any other  unit...
13:29.07Xinhuanreachable units are units anyone in your raid is targetting
13:29.16Xinhuannote you will get NO DATA for mobs you have 0 threat on
13:29.17sb|worki see
13:29.28sb|workso no guid lookup
13:29.38Xinhuani.e a boss has 4 mobs, you atatck one, but not the other 3, the game doesn't consider you in combat with the other 3 (not on their threat table)
13:29.43Xinhuanyou'll get 0 data
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13:31.47Brunersanyone fancy helping me debug my oUF combo point issue? http://pastey.net/98551
13:32.07Repo10professions-book: 03Anxarces * r68 / (2 files in 1 directory): ProfessionsBook:
13:32.08Repo- Fixed an issue with double files.
13:34.30PollekeEhmm.. should LibStub and CBH be set as externals for library projects? Or included in the rep?
13:34.46Xinhuanset as externals in the .pkgmeta file
13:34.58Xinhuansvn:externals are unnecessary but can be included
13:35.20Pollekeok thanks
13:36.02MikkI just copy LibStub.lua and CallbackHandler-1.0.lua myself
13:36.05Mikkymmv =)
13:37.34Pollekewell thats how I have it right now. Because I was told that was the Right Way a few months a go
13:37.35Xinhuani just pkgmeta them
13:37.35Mikkboth work tbfh
13:37.39Pneumatusfor libraries they should be static uploaded to the project afaik
13:37.41Xinhuaneither way, they both get packaged
13:37.48Xinhuaneven in nolib versions
13:37.58MikkoO
13:38.04Pneumatusonly until ckk fixes tag handling
13:38.14ckknight?
13:38.16Mikkexternals in the pkgmeta file get packaged even in -nolib?
13:38.21Mikkponders what the point of nolib is if so?
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13:38.25Repo10ora2: 03ananhaid * r626 / (5 files in 3 directories): oRA2:
13:38.26Repo-zhCN update.
13:38.28Xinhuanonly LS and CBH
13:38.31Mikkoh
13:38.34ckknightMikk: only remote externals, cause those can't be tracked to repackage
13:38.47evlIs there any way to read out the actual effects of Talents and/or Glyphs programatically?
13:38.50ckknightwell, and tags, cause I need to fix that
13:39.08MikkI'm not even sure tagged should be excluded
13:39.33MikkGranted, depends on how people are tagging.. If it's just a plain tag it probably should
13:39.39Xinhuanckknight: nolib zips still forcefully include LS and CBH
13:39.44MikkBut if it's the kind of tag that is a standalone non-upgradable static ...
13:39.46Xinhuanif they are specified in .pkgmeta
13:39.48ckknightyes, that's what I just said
13:39.55PneumatusXinhuan: because the packager is broken
13:40.03Pneumatusit doesnt handle tags right
13:40.19Xinhuanerr alphas too
13:40.21Xinhuannothing to do with tags
13:40.34Xinhuanmy alpha nolib zips have LS and CBH in them
13:40.55Pneumatusthe externals referencing tags
13:40.57Pneumatusnot project tags
13:41.18Xinhuanthere are no externals...
13:41.24Xinhuanare you understanding me?
13:41.53XinhuanLS and CBH are both locally available
13:41.57Xinhuanon the wowaec svn
13:42.02Xinhuanther are not external
13:42.32Xinhuanthe overall effect is that if you simply hardembedded those 2 libs, it would be no different
13:42.56PollekeXinhuan, is the top example then wrong on this page: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/pkgmeta-file/
13:43.11Xinhuanit is not wrong Polleke
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13:43.26Xinhuanthe path in the example is wrong though
13:43.29Xinhuanif that's what you are asking
13:43.32Pollekeyeh
13:43.51XinhuanLibs/CallbackHandler-1.0: svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/ace3/mainline/trunk/CallbackHandler-1.0
13:43.52XinhuanLibs/LibStub: svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/libstub/mainline/tags/1.0
13:43.55Xinhuanthose are the correct ones
13:44.44Repo10under-hood: 03Anadale * r12 / (6 files in 4 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
13:44.45RepoUnderHood:
13:44.46Repo- Fixed Power provider to display power regeneration in real time
13:44.48Repo- Fixed ComboPoints module bug
13:44.51Repo- Default Focus frame can now be hidden in configuration window
13:44.55Repo10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03Whitetooth * r86 / (3 files in 1 directory): - Fixed .pkgmeta, externals
13:45.00Repo- Fixed Nalorakk Mangle spell id error
13:45.03Pneumatusthe CBH tag is wrong
13:45.08Pneumatusit has its own repo now
13:45.46Pneumatussvn://svn.wowace.com/wow/callbackhandler/mainline/tags/1.0.3/CallbackHandler-1.0 is the correct one
13:46.17Repo10under-hood: 03Anadale 041.3.4 * r13 : Tagging as 1.3.4.
13:46.21Repo10fortress: 03Borlox 07master * 1.042-1-g23f6d8f Options.lua: [+1 commit] ! drycoded (passes luac -p)
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13:47.59XinhuanPneumatus: its still not wrong ;p
13:48.26Xinhuanyuo'll find that most addons have it pointed at
13:48.27Xinhuansvn://svn.wowace.com/wow/ace3/mainline/trunk/CallbackHandler-1.0
13:48.31Xinhuanbecause when they did the import
13:48.33mitch0how are the localizations picked up by curseforge? (in the "More info" tab)
13:48.42Xinhuanfrom oldwowace to new wowace
13:48.47Xinhuanthey set all of them automatically to svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/ace3/mainline/trunk/CallbackHandler-1.0
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13:49.09Xinhuanand i can assure you about 1000+ addons on the svn still use svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/ace3/mainline/trunk/CallbackHandler-1.0
13:49.10Pneumatusbefore CBH got its own repo, id imagine
13:49.18Xinhuanrather than svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/callbackhandler/mainline/tags/1.0.3/CallbackHandler-1.0 ;p
13:50.08Xinhuanthe issue here primarily stems from the fact the creators of it didn't want it to be ever standalone
13:50.15Xinhuanit must always be embedded
13:50.24Xinhuanso if you use 80 addons, you'll have 80 copies of it embedded
13:50.38Xinhuanand so, no initial repo for it
13:50.52Pneumatusyou still wouldnt use it standalone though
13:50.52Xinhuanpersonally, i call it stubborness
13:50.53Repo10big-wigs: 03ananhaid * r4773 Core.lua: BigWigs:
13:50.54Repo- zhCN update.
13:51.15Xinhuanyeah but have you looked at your addon folders and see how many copies of CBH and LibStub you have?
13:51.16Pneumatusnormal addons will disembed, but will be using something like Ace3 which has it embedded
13:51.20Xinhuanthey all add up
13:51.25Xinhuan50 extra copies is like 100 kb
13:51.29PneumatusXinhuan: moot point while the nolib zips are fucked
13:51.30Repo10fortress: 03Borlox 041.05-beta1 * 658ec2a /: [new tag] - pushed toc to 30000
13:51.44Xinhuani'm not even referring to that now
13:51.49vhaarrit's not a moot point :p
13:51.53Xinhuani'm referring to the design decision that they should never be disembedded
13:52.01Xinhuanits just plains illy
13:52.03vhaarrXinhuan calls it stubborness, I call it silly
13:52.12Xinhuani call it silly too, there!
13:52.15Pneumatusonce nolibs start stripping LS/CBH it wont be an issue though
13:52.15Xinhuan3 seconds before u
13:52.15vhaarrdamn!
13:52.20digmousecan I devide the 3 phases of EoS fight in recount?
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13:52.22vhaarrbut you misspelled it
13:52.27Pneumatusat most, you'll have a few copies in the different libs
13:52.49Xinhuanthat 100 kb extra from 50 extra copies, now add in 10000 users updating addons and multiply it up
13:52.55Xinhuanits all bandwidth!
13:54.04Xinhuandigmouse: recount treats them as 3 different bosses
13:54.12Xinhuanas they have different GUIDs
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13:55.35Xinhuanno matter how small a library is, if you end up with 50 copies of it, it becomes a lot basically
13:55.38kenlyricodd
13:55.45kenlyricmy combo points don't display during combat
13:55.50kenlyricbut once the mob is dead I can see them
13:56.30Saroz[2008/10/17 15:55:08-881-x1]: Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:218: cannot change a protected metatable
13:56.30Sarozwtf
13:57.00sb|workkenlyric: nugComboBar?
13:57.13sb|work(or something like that)
13:57.35digmouseXinhuan: currenly my recount count them as 1
13:58.01Xinhuanhmm really? mine used to count them as 3 sepsrate combats
13:58.13Xinhuanlike in the dropdown for "last few fights"
13:58.16Xinhuanit listed them separately
13:58.31digmouseneed some setting?
13:59.13Xinhuandunno, its been 3 months since i did BT ;p
13:59.41Kaelteng'morning
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14:01.09Xinhuanhello
14:01.23Josh_Borkeohayo
14:02.01kroonnHey guys! Can somebody add this fix for Bartender4 to cyCircled? http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/cy-circled.aspx#302475
14:04.48mitch0heh, just read on the BT4 forum that no cycircled support is planned for bt4 :)
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14:05.18mitch0you're supposed to use buttonfacade or whatnot
14:05.21ramozbuttonfaceade!
14:05.23sb|workuhm... cyCircled is dead, isnt it?
14:05.34ramozit was when bt4 was released atleast
14:05.44kroonnbut it works, http://pwnz0r.dyndns.org/cyCircled_bt4_fix.rar - plugin for cyCircled
14:05.59mitch0it's a rar, so it's fail.
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14:06.20digmouseButtonFacade = win
14:07.30kroonnoh, Swix already commit this fix, but arrormaster revert this reason "Bartender4 does not support cyCircled "... that support, if all works fine Oo
14:07.55kroonn*arrowmater, sorry
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14:25.05Repo10broker2fubar: 03Adirelle * r27 / (4 files in 1 directory):
14:25.06RepoFix externals and remove AceHook-3.0 (that wasn't even used).
14:25.07RepoUse Blizzard options UI for configuration.
14:26.21Repo10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant * r75 / (4 files in 1 directory):
14:26.22RepoFuBar_ConvergeFu: Added the ItemLevelDKP tool as a replacement for the broken ItemLevelDKP addon.
14:28.19Repo10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant 04v3.30-Echoes-of-Doom-WoW-3.0.2 * r76 : FuBar_ConvergeFu: Tagging this as a proper release.
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14:33.38mitch0lua> local a = 1; while ((a = 2)) do print(a) end
14:33.38lua_botmitch0: luabot:1: ')' expected near '='
14:34.00mitch0guessed as much :(
14:34.26Repo10incubator: 03durcyn 043.0.2-1 * r181 : Tagging as 3.0.2-1.
14:36.11DarkAuditFuBar_Quests is borking Blizz error UI ("out of range", "You can't mount here", etc.)
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14:44.18DarkAuditannnd... ticket posted http://www.wowace.com/projects/fu-bar_quests-fu/tickets/1-blizzard-ui-error-messages-not-appearing-when-addon/
14:45.29vhaarreeehm
14:45.38vhaarrKaelten: so if I want to create a new project on wowace, what do I do?
14:45.39vhaarrhrm
14:45.58vhaarrjust made something new and was just going to do 'svn add', but realized that might not work
14:46.03mitch0is there a way to remove the first element of a table? (the one previously returned by next(t))
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14:49.44KnaledgeKolie - you linked to an RC yesterday, is there an update today again?
14:49.53Kolienot yet.
14:49.56vhaarrckknight: ping
14:50.00KolieEven then not much would change.
14:50.06ckknightvhaarr: pong
14:50.07KnaledgeKolie - also the "Changelog" feature for right-click context menu is not working as intended.
14:50.13Knaledgenot sure if this is known
14:50.29vhaarrckknight: I created a new project on wowace, it made a repository for me, but when I tried 'svn co <repo>', I get "authorization failed"?
14:50.44vhaarrthe "access type" is set to open
14:50.48ckknightmight need to wait a minute
14:50.50vhaarrah
14:50.53ckknightwhat project?
14:51.01vhaarrckknight: right, it worked now :)
14:51.05ckknightokay
14:51.41Kaeltenvhaarr: small lag as the servers talked and danced :)
14:51.45vhaarrright
14:52.06Repo10libdbicon-1-0: 03Rabbit * r2 / (11 files in 6 directories):
14:52.06RepoFirst commit, embed this library to automagically create a small minimap icon for your LDB object.
14:52.19KnaledgeKolie - you enter into a 25% CPU usage lock, for approximately 3-4 minutes, and then are presented with a (seemingly) "custom" dialog box that contains an _old,old_ changelog.
14:52.36DarkAuditDoes mapster have instance maps?
14:52.46digmouseno
14:52.58KolieKnaledge, windows?
14:53.05KnaledgeKolie - Windows XP, SP3
14:53.12Koliehow many cores/processors do yo uhave
14:53.21mitch0what is the lua equivalent of C's continue?
14:53.27digmouseXinhuan: maybe the RoS cannot be devided into 3 since now it's 1 fight no 3 now, you dont leave combat in the 3 phases
14:53.48Koliethats a cool trick.
14:53.49Knaledge4 total cores, 2 dye (2 "physical processors", 4 physical cores), 16GB of RAM
14:53.51Xinhuanmitch0: there is none
14:53.56mitch0doh.
14:53.59Xinhuanhowever, you can do the following trick
14:54.01mitch0there's break but no continue?
14:54.02Knaledge(though only addressing 3, with 4 total)
14:54.14Xinhuanfor i = 1, 100 do ( ) end
14:54.17Xinhuanin between that ( )
14:54.18Xinhuanyou put
14:54.44Xinhuanrepeat (blah) until true
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14:54.57KolieSo its maxing a core..
14:55.02Xinhuaninside that (blah) you can "break" from it which will in effect exit the repeat-until true loop
14:55.09mitch0xin: smelly
14:55.10Xinhuanwhich that "continues" the for-loop
14:55.17Xinhuanits the only way
14:55.25mitch0well, no
14:55.27Xinhuanwhich then "continues" the for-loop
14:55.33mitch0the other way is nested ifs
14:55.40mitch0which are also ugly, but not as smelly
14:55.42Xinhuannested IFs is very messy
14:55.53Xinhuanespecially if you have about 5-100 of them
14:55.54KolieIts because the CL is so huge.
14:55.54KnaledgeKolie - procrep shows me at 0 and 2 using 10-15% each
14:55.58KolieIts processing the cl.
14:56.23Knaledgescratch that, now balancing 0-2 at 8-10% each
14:56.31Knaledgehighest load on 0/2
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14:56.53KnaledgeWell, one solution might be to just open the .txt changelog included in all adons
14:56.55Pkekyo|err....how the hell do I get FuBar to expand to the entire width of my monitor?
14:57.00Knaledgeand if none found, then present error.
14:57.26KnaledgeOtherwise, this will be a under-used feature, I'd suspect.
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14:57.54Knaledgeeither way, even if the CL was so huge - it's still old, regardless.
14:58.17DarkAuditis there a fix to FuBar's handling of the lower bar after zoning, or will I need to file a ticket?
14:58.18KnaledgeAtlasLoot is showing the last commit as 81380
14:58.28Knaledge(which is on 09/04/2008)
14:58.33Knaledgesept 4th 2008
14:58.47HirsutePkekyo: If your screen is at a resolution itdoesn't expect, you don't.
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14:59.36Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r4774-release * r4774 : Tagging as r4774-release.
14:59.49Knaledgeand BankItems is showing as 58086 on January 1st, 2008
15:00.20KnaledgeBroker_Bags Aug 22, 2008
15:00.22Knaledgeand so on
15:01.15Pkekyo|Hirsute: ''doesn't expect'' ?
15:01.46Knaledgeoff-topic - anyone know of ... any photoshop plugin that allows me to replicate an ice pattern?
15:01.51Knaledgefrost pattern on glass, if you will
15:02.10Repo10librangecheck-2-0: 03mitch0 07drycode * r24 : temp branch
15:02.10Funkeh`ckknight, ping
15:02.12KnaledgeI'm trying to create custom textures for kgPanels in PS cs3
15:02.13Pkekyo|Knaledge: I'd imagine it'd be easily done with a brush set tbh
15:02.21Knaledgeyou'd think... hehe
15:02.21Pneumatusanyone know how i can backtrace an error that doesn't indicate any addons are causing it... all i'm getting is Interface\FrameXML\SecureHandlers.lua:511: Cannot use SecureHandlers API during combat:
15:02.23ckknightFunkeh`: yes?
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15:02.46Funkeh`ckknight, there used to be a place on curse.com that consolidated everyones comments from all your addons into 1 page like wowi, where is it?
15:03.26Repo10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r94 / (5 files in 4 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0:
15:03.27Repo- Data update
15:03.27Repo- Removed two Northrend zones from GetMapZonesWithExtras
15:03.30Repo- UI Resizing
15:03.50Repo10librangecheck-2-0: 03mitch0 07drycode * r25 LibRangeCheck-2.0/LibRangeCheck-2.0.lua: halfway done, broken
15:04.48ckknightFunkeh`: your guess is as good as mine
15:05.12Funkeh`:/
15:06.37Xinhuandeathcharger mount
15:06.44Xinhuandrop rate has been buffed
15:06.52Xinhuanit appears to be about 5%-10% now
15:07.17alcaras(hopes for Routes Taboo fix :)
15:07.33kenlyrici wonder which mod is filtering the text error messages (like when mining fails)
15:07.41ramozoh, and routes is whining about some dalaran data
15:07.50Xinhuanyes i'm fixing it
15:08.21Pkekyo|Hirsute: ''doesn't expect'' ?
15:08.28alcaras<3 Xinhuan
15:08.55HirsutePkekyo|: Sec
15:09.41HirsutePkekyo|: Yes, it uses an image at a set resolution as the texture for the bar.  It has multiple images to accomodate multiple resolutions.  If your resolution isn't one that it has an image for, it seems it picks the closest one.
15:09.59KnaledgeHey all - any recommendations on a frame moving addon? I just found FloatingFrames
15:10.06Mikkckknight: Since you're (hopefully) in the know.. Author e-mail addresses are no longer shown anywhere in the curse network, right? (And purposefully so?)
15:10.14Knaledgebut I have been using MobileFrames/FluidFrames forever
15:10.36KnaledgeI want to be able to move bag pos, window pos, and save it
15:10.38Pkekyo|Hirsute: I've disabled textures
15:10.45ckknightMikk: I don't know the policies on curse.com, on curseforge, you only see email addresses if you have certain rights (if you are the author or are a moderator)
15:10.54HirsutePkekyo|: Then I have no idea.
15:11.01Mikkckknight: right, cheers. i'll bug kaelten then.
15:11.14KaeltenMikk: ?
15:11.17Mikkhah
15:11.20Repo10libdbicon-1-0: 03Rabbit * r3 LibDBIcon-1.0/LibDBIcon-1.0.lua: Added API to hide and show the icon.
15:11.29MikkKaelten: Policy on showing user e-mail addresses on the curse network?
15:11.34Pkekyo|doh >.<
15:11.38MikkAs in "do i get spammed if i put in my proper one"?
15:11.42Kaeltenthey shouldn't be leaking anywhere.
15:11.55Kaeltenand if they are we'll get a tinker's damn to fix it
15:12.01Brunersshould only be visible for people that are logged in atleast
15:12.11MikkGood good.
15:12.20durcynballs to that, shouldn't be visible to users, logged in or not. i get enough spam.
15:12.40Mikkmhm. if at all visible, it should be optional and configurable for the user putting it in.
15:12.46Mikkif no config = no visibility
15:12.56Mikkif i want people to mail me, i can always put it in my addon page or whatever
15:13.46Pkekyo|Question: How do I change the width of FuBar?
15:14.07durcynPkekyo|: drag the end of it
15:14.09Repo10closet-gnome: 03Rabbit * r572 / (5 files in 1 directory): Added LibDBIcon-1.0 support.
15:14.09Xinhuanvhaarr: that lib is like fubarplugin to show a minimap button
15:14.10Xinhuan?
15:14.48vhaarrXinhuan: yes
15:15.14vhaarrfeel free to poke around and see if you can make it tinyer, it's quite small already but could maybe be made even smaller
15:15.16Pkekyo|that's really quite fucking fucktarded
15:15.17Pkekyo|thanks for the tip though
15:15.20Xinhuani assume its draggable and will follow the shape of the minimap as well?
15:15.25vhaarrXinhuan: indeed
15:15.32Fisker-dies Xinhuan
15:15.35vhaarrXinhuan: you do :Register(name, object, db) on the library
15:15.35Xinhuanwho/where stores the location of the button?
15:15.42vhaarrguess that answers that
15:15.46Xinhuanheh yes it does
15:16.06Brunerslink to the 2.0.1.0 curse client?
15:16.06vhaarrwhere "name" is the same as your LDB object name, and object is simply the LDB object reference
15:16.22Xinhuani'll look at it tomorrow
15:16.39vhaarrXinhuan: it doesn't automatically provide you with a config table like LibSink, you have to add an option for it yourself
15:16.56vhaarrthen you can do lib:Hide(name) and lib:Show(name), obviously on login the library will read the option and act accordingly
15:17.11Xinhuani'm still quite undecided if omen should come with a minimap button
15:17.37vhaarrlibdbicon-1.0 acts completely independant from any LDB display or FuBar present on the system
15:18.00vhaarri.e. the icon will be created regardless of any other display presence
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15:18.03Xinhuanso wait, how does it interact with ldb?
15:18.08vhaarrit doesn't
15:18.18Wujuanyone here interested in singing pokemon on WOW?
15:18.21vhaarrin the sense of a display addon
15:18.28Xinhuanso it is just like libminimapbutton?
15:18.50vhaarrXinhuan: take a step back now and rephrase your question, I seem to have misunderstood it
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15:19.18Xinhuanwhat i mean is, how is this different from an existing library that creates a button and puts it on the minimap?
15:19.23vhaarranyway it's just ~150 lines of code, you can read it yourself
15:19.38Xinhuankagaro proposed one a year ago and is less than 100 lines ;p
15:19.42vhaarrXinhuan: ah, well it listens to icon change events from LDB
15:19.50vhaarrand supports LDB tooltips
15:21.17Xinhuanmy last addon used a minimap button that is not libary based
15:21.38Xinhuanit has 3 savedvars - yes/no for showing/hiding, a radius, and a angle
15:21.41Pkekyo|Elkano's Buff Bars up as a LK version yet?
15:21.46vhaarrXinhuan: same as this then
15:21.49durcynPkekyo|: Yeah.  
15:21.59vhaarrI'm not sure this library is the solution I want, but it's at least a step out there, a test if you will
15:22.09durcynPkekyo|: http://www.wowace.com/projects/elkbuffbars/
15:22.18vhaarrand it's pretty small and cuddly
15:23.08Xinhuani'll look at it after i update CG later heh
15:23.16vhaarrFunkeh`: care to add support for LibDBIcon-1.0 to BigWigs/Violation/oRA2 ?
15:23.36Funkeh`:o what's that?
15:23.47vhaarrFunkeh`: update closetgnome and see
15:24.01Pkekyo|thanks durcyn, lifesaver
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15:24.45Repo10cryolysis3: 03Belazor * r16 classes/mage/mage.lua: Fixed possible nil error with Evocation.
15:24.56cogwheelso um... where can i find an svn of the Ace2 libs now?
15:25.03Repo10cryolysis3: 03Belazor 04v3.0-beta2 * r17 : Tagging as v3.0-beta2.
15:25.07vhaarrFunkeh`: local icon = LibStub("LibDBIcon-1.0"); icon:Register("LDBObjectName", ldbObject, savedVarsTable); icon:Show("LDBObjectName"); icon:Hide("LDBObjectName")
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15:25.22vhaarrcogwheel: svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/ace2/mainline/trunk
15:25.24evlif I have local something = function() return "foo" end
15:25.27evlhow can I call that?
15:25.31cogwheelvhaarr: ty
15:25.32vhaarrFunkeh`: that's the whole api
15:25.39Funkeh`lol
15:25.40KnaledgeAny thoughts on UnderHood?
15:25.42Funkeh`nice and simple
15:26.10vhaarrFunkeh`: you don't have to call show/hide on login, the library does it then, it's just for if you add a setting to the addon to toggle the icon
15:26.44Funkeh`like enabling it etc
15:26.54vhaarryes, look at closetgnome, it supports it
15:26.56vhaarrI have to run, bbl
15:27.12vhaarrevl: something()
15:27.24evlCan't really get it working
15:27.38Matrix110fail evl
15:27.47evlbar.maxDurationFunction = maxDurationFunction
15:27.47evlbar:SetMinMaxValues(0, bar.maxDurationFunction())
15:27.52evlahhh
15:28.05evlthe dreaded . vs : mistake!
15:28.05FacktotumBruners: in the topic
15:28.19sztanpetAdirelle could you tag the latest broker2fubar revision as beta, so we can pull it from the curseclient plz?
15:28.42sztanpeti mean r27
15:28.54Adirellesztanpet: have you tested it ? I only did some rough testing
15:29.11sztanpetnop, but i shall give it a go then
15:30.31Adirellesztanpet: nvm, bumped r27 to beta, I'll create a release if it seems to be ok
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15:30.43sztanpetty
15:31.56Saroz[2008/10/17 15:55:08-881-x1]: Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:218: cannot change a protected metatable
15:31.57Adirellewut, Kolie did some optimizations to CC ? it seems far more responsive
15:33.07sztanpetworks perfectly for me anyway, clicked on everything
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15:33.27FacktotumAdirelle: yes scans addons much faster
15:34.15Adirellechangelog is faster too, or maybe, it is just because the Curse server aren't hammered anymore
15:34.32KnaledgeThere's still issues with changelog
15:34.40Adirelletrue
15:34.46Knaledgebut I think the CC has done well shaping up lately
15:34.52Knaledgewell done kolie
15:35.29Adirellesztanpet: I tested b2f with the old closetgnome, with Arrowmaster change to LibFuBarPlugin, it now gets the right-click
15:35.37sztanpetyup
15:35.44Adirellenew* ClosetGnome, I mean
15:35.45sztanpetbartender and friends work too
15:35.58sztanpetbigwigs too
15:36.32Repo10xpbarnone: 03phyber 07master * v1.2-1-g546aced / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Added slider bar to set the position of the text, defaults to center.
15:36.39sztanpetoh, it doesnt show up in the addon list tho, only with /b2f
15:37.32KnaledgeAnyone recommend a replacement for AuldLangSyne?
15:37.41KnaledgeI love that addon but it's pretty hosed :(
15:38.00Facktotumsomething that bothers me with CC is that altough there is newer version of the addon it still does not detect
15:38.07Facktotumeven if its a release
15:38.27Adirellesztanpet: I know why, wait
15:39.04sztanpetFacktotum not CCs fault, it takes a tiny wee bit of time to get the addon syndicated to curse.com
15:39.16KaeltenFacktotum: specifc info would be good to help us see if there is a problem.
15:39.41KnaledgeFacktotum - also make sure you click "Get List" once in a while
15:39.43FacktotumKaelten: i checked my changelog.txt for pitbull
15:39.47Fisker-I can show you the way to heaven Kaelten
15:39.57Repo10broker2fubar: 03Adirelle * r28 core.lua:
15:39.58RepoRegister the Blizzard UI on initialization, instead of postponing it to first /b2f use.
15:39.58KnaledgeI launched CC today this morning and it only showed 3 addons as being 10/17/2008
15:40.02Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r263 / (2 files in 2 directories):
15:40.02Repo- made "config mode" only show bars that are currently enabled
15:40.04Repo- made combo points module show 5 combo points while in config mode
15:40.08Repo- added horizontal offset to combo points module
15:40.12Repo- added ability make combo points add vertically instead of horizontally (if in graphical mode)
15:40.15Knaledgebut when I clicked "Get List" it showed like 60+ for today
15:40.47Facktotumget list?
15:40.58Knaledgeerr... that is - this is all AFTER the CC told me I had outdated addons and I updated them
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15:41.11Knaledgeturns out, there were even more but I had to manually "Get List" first
15:41.25KnaledgeFind Addon > Get List
15:41.29KaeltenKnaledge: it should find updates seperately of "Get List"
15:41.32Repo10fortress: 03Borlox 07master * 1.05-beta1 Fortress.toc: [+1 commit] - pushed toc to 30000
15:41.43KaeltenFacktotum: pardon?
15:42.09kagaroXinhuan: what did I propose? saw the gowl notification up was away
15:42.20FacktotumKaelten: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pit-bull/files/
15:42.23Xinhuanminimap button library
15:42.34kagaroohh yeah that
15:42.42Facktotumi had v3.2.6 and altough there is 3.2.7 it didnt said there is an update
15:43.07KnaledgeKaelten: Yeah, it doesn't seem to do that. It runs what looks like an initial "Get List" on startup, but the "Find Addon" list is never updated fully until I hit the "Get List" button.
15:43.11Knaledgenot sure why
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15:43.15Pkekyo|so...is Frost still theshit for mages?
15:43.35kagaroat this point shooting a LDB object and letting it handle wether they want a button or whatever seems better
15:44.16Adirellesztanpet: I have to go, I bumped r28 to beta, it should fix the UI issue
15:44.25sztanpetthanks
15:44.27sztanpet<3
15:45.46PollekeWhy is this no longer working? worldFrameHook = WorldFrame:GetScript("OnMouseDown"); WorldFrame:HookScript("OnMouseDown", function(...)
15:46.08KnaledgeW?
15:47.06sbdurcyn: ping
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15:47.30Matrix110hmm Buggrabber is acting odd
15:47.37SlaymanIt got a little harder joining your channel ppl
15:47.41Matrix110its working but my minimap button is missing:-(
15:48.03ulicMatrix110: moved to LDB
15:48.13Matrix110ah
15:48.18FacktotumMatrix110: get an LDB addon
15:48.29Pkekyo|this new system for mounts... is there a limit for how many you can have at the same time or?
15:48.39sbdont think so
15:48.46sbsince there is a 50mount achievement :p
15:48.57sband you cant also delete them
15:49.06ulicsb: that's the logic I was gonna use also
15:49.10sberr swap those words :p
15:49.24ulicthat's a lot of mounts.
15:49.35Pkekyo|sweet :D
15:49.43Pkekyo|definitely getting 50 mounts
15:50.23ulicI'm pissed that I don't get my non-epic mounts since I deleted them to save bag space when I got epics, now I have to buy them again :(
15:50.31sbdurcyn: (GetSpellInfo(45357)), -- Inscription
15:50.35selckinoh no, 8g
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15:50.37sbalso (GetSpellInfo(51005)), -- Milling
15:50.38selckinhep
15:50.43sbbroker_professions that is :p
15:51.01ulicis that all they cost?  I haven't even looked at them in a long while.  heheh
15:51.47ulicyea 10g without discount
15:52.23Facktotumthe reward from the mounts achievment is fugly
15:52.42Facktotumi refuse to ride that drake
15:53.05Repo10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant 04v3.30-release * r77 : FuBar_ConvergeFu: Tagging this as a proper release.
15:55.05KnaledgeAny replacement addon for AuldLangSyne?
15:55.13Knaledgeused to be maintained by Kemayo
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15:56.42Repo10librescomm-1-0: 03DathRarhek * r41 / (2 files in 1 directory): LibResComm-1.0:
15:56.43Repo- Fix hooks for 3.0
15:56.44Repo- Marking beta
15:57.25Sarozif a lib gets updated, does CC update all mods that depend on it?
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15:57.50kagaroulic: blizz was mailing out to everyone today all their pets and mounts as a resolution to missing pets/mounts
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15:58.14ArrowmasterSaroz: no
15:58.16kagaroi know my mailbox was full of every pet and mount I had
15:58.21Sarozthats gay
15:58.26ulicoh, even ones that had been deleted long ago?  I thought that was some other issue, cool.
15:58.31Sarozwtb wowace back :S
15:58.36Arrowmasterno
15:58.45kagaroi gota check to se if it had my deleted ones too
15:59.04sberrr
15:59.08kagaroSaroz: it shouldnt matter anyways author tags a release he knows works
15:59.10sbhow to get your own realm name?
15:59.16sbin lua
15:59.22Sarozmeh
15:59.25Sarozwhat about alphas
15:59.30kagaroif it was grabbing alphas al the time, author now stuck trying to figure out whats going on
15:59.35ArrowmasterGetRealmName()
15:59.38Saroznow I have to poke my addon every time a lib gets updated
15:59.44kagaroand CC defaults to release anyways
16:00.21Zhinjioanyone have any thoughts on how to get a kgpanel to anchor properly to a pitbullframe? (since they can change names)
16:00.37kagaroSaroz:  dont mark it as a releae till you know it works
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16:00.55kagaroor mark it as a beta and test it first
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16:01.14FacktotumKnaledge: did you install it and test ?
16:01.21Arrowmasteromg my mailbox is full of pets and mounts i already learned
16:01.30KnaledgeFacktotum: hm?
16:01.35kagaroAlso if it is a libstub version of a library, it self updates anyways
16:01.38FacktotumAuldLangSyne
16:01.43Knaledgeyes
16:02.20Knaledgeit keeps forgetting my strings and it isn't updating status/doesn't show the strings sometimes
16:02.26kagaroZhinjio: Pitbull has an internal method to get the frame I think.
16:02.33DarkAuditdrat... my new avatar isn't retroactive to my no-avatar-at-all posts :(
16:02.34KnaledgeI mean, I can't complain too much - I've used it for nearly a year
16:03.04[SW]DodgeKaelten: ping (i dont want to ask for bagbreak, but reporting a "bug")
16:03.13Zhinjiokagaro: can you explain? eepanels had a way around this, but I don't see anything in kgpanels
16:03.26KaeltenDodge: ?
16:03.32kagaroeepanels has a workaround?
16:03.58[SW]Dodgekadrahil: onebag3, got the bug where all buttons are grayed out
16:04.03[SW]DodgeKaelten: *
16:04.10FacktotumKnaledge: errors or just not working as intented?
16:04.20Knaledgeerr...
16:04.27KnaledgeI feel there is no difference.
16:04.32Zhinjioyes, there was some checkbox for "do some magic for pitbull frames". when checked, it would properly anchor to a pitbull frame and stay stuck to it.
16:04.35sylvanaari still want to know why when I mouse over the first sub nodes in an ace config dialog tree, my chatframe tabs pop up
16:04.41asmodaiwaves at kagaro
16:04.42asmodaierr
16:04.43asmodaiKaelten:
16:05.02ZhinjioI'm gonna look in there and see what it did. one moment
16:05.19KnaledgeYo kagaro - super sweet work on kgPanels
16:05.32Knaledgereally - your menu structure is so good.
16:05.51sylvanaarsomeone in game try it with any ace3 addon with a multilevel options table - so I know its not just me
16:05.52KnaledgeEver consider adding a... key sequence.. to unlock / lock panels?
16:05.55KaeltenDodge: You've got to be fucking kidding me!
16:06.41[SW]DodgeKaelten: no, i'm not kidding you, its true. to bad that i didnt make a screenshot for you
16:07.19Kaeltenstarts swearing and hitting walls
16:07.24KnaledgeWhy is everyone on the 10/15/08 post on WoWace.com complaining about CC not installing proper addon updates?
16:07.26Knaledgeis that true?
16:07.32KnaledgeI don't seem to have that issue.
16:07.44kagaroKnaledge: maybe at some pint
16:07.49sylvanaarthey didnt listen to the advise
16:07.55sylvanaar~patchday
16:07.55purlpatchday is probably TODAY IS WOW PATCH 3.0 - WAU has been disabled. You can no longer use it to update your addons. It has been removed and replaced with the Curse Client which you can find at http://www.curse.com/client/ ... or doom and gloom terror and trouble, zomgeverythingisbroke! Pro tip: When using the curse client, start with an empty addon folder.
16:07.56kagaroZhinjio: what version of eepanels?
16:08.24Knaledgekagaro - latest one had that
16:08.34KnaledgeI think it was from august/september some time
16:08.43Zhinjionods.
16:08.54KnaledgeI have it, as I think zhinjio does as well
16:08.54DarkAudittrying to change my forum avatar... keep getting "upload of file failed"
16:08.56Zhinjiosomething called "dynamic panel handling" or something
16:09.11ZhinjioI'm trying to dig through that code right now
16:09.18ArrowmasterZhinjio: you cant easyly do it
16:09.20Kaeltenif someone can figure out whats causing the grey out issue I'll be VERY happy
16:09.30Zhinjiocrap.
16:09.38[SW]DodgeKaelten: it seems taht you dont have any idea what thta could cause? :)
16:09.42KnaledgeKaelten - don't bags gray out when the GameMode is called?
16:09.42KaeltenDodge: can you paste me a list of the mods you're using?
16:09.47Knaledgeor... something?
16:09.56KaeltenKnaledge: ?
16:09.58KnaledgeLike when the escape menu is presented?
16:10.14kagaroZhinjio: I do dynamic frame handling
16:10.15Knaledgejust saying perhaps something is causing/trigerring that "state" falsely
16:10.40kagaroPitbull issue is it reuses the same frame
16:10.41KnaledgeWhen you press escape toget the main menu (log out, exit game,video/audio settings... that whole menu) - the bags become gray
16:10.46Kaeltenor maybe I'm missing the event to reverse it.
16:10.50KaeltenKnaledge: are you sure?
16:10.55KnaledgeMaybe something is causing that to trigger
16:10.59Knaledgepositive
16:11.04Repo10grid-status-res: 03DathRarhek * r35 / (2 files in 1 directory): GridStatusRes:
16:11.04Repo- pkgmeta external fix
16:11.05Repo- Marking beta
16:11.05Knaledgeyou cannot interact with bags while main menu is up
16:11.07[SW]DodgeKaelten: query
16:11.54Zhinjiokagaro: I just did a reload, and the panels previously anchored to other frames moved '
16:11.54[SW]DodgeKnaledge: main menu = the options frame with button for video/sound/interface/etc?
16:12.04Zhinjiois it just because I did  a reload?
16:12.17kagaroI believe so, there is no way to destroy a frame
16:12.17KnaledgeKaelten - I'm not saying I've figured out the bug, just saying I know that normally, without this onebag addon.. etc... you press Escape to bring up main menu and your bags are grayed out.
16:12.26kagaroso it got recycled by pitbull
16:12.30Zhinjiolemm logout and in again.
16:12.36KaeltenDodge: can you see if you can reproduce it at all?
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16:12.56KnaledgeKaelten - just hypothesizing about what could be causing OneBag3's bag icons to be gray... which was thta aybe somehow that same "state" described above is being triggered silently
16:12.57[SW]DodgeKnaledge: i can movei items and even equip from bag while the ESC menu is opened
16:13.19dodgaFor some reason Ace3 taints my UIErrorsFrame_OnEvent... any ideas on what's going wrong or how to fix it :D
16:13.33Kaeltendodga: its one of the addons that uses Ace3 most likely.
16:13.35Knaledgewell, I'm 99.999999% positive that in default vanilla WoW, you cannot manipulate the bags when main menu is up
16:13.37ZhinjioI think i'm going to reserve judgement until I get pitbull fully configured and all frames are present and accounted for.
16:13.39Pheredhelhow long does it usually take to transfer a project vom wowacesvn to the author?
16:13.53KaeltenPheredhel: not long
16:13.59dodgaKaelten: Anything else I can do instead of disabling and enabling them to narrow it down? :D
16:13.59Kaeltenof course its possible that I've not seen the request yet
16:14.00[SW]DodgeKaelten: i tryed to reproduce it but i didnt got it yet, but i could try it
16:14.01Kaeltenlink?
16:14.04Zhinjiobut I suspect this isn't going to work.
16:14.09Kaeltendodga: not really :(
16:14.16Repo10broker_money: 03smb * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory): - version 1.2
16:14.17dodgathan I'll do that :D
16:14.17Repo- toc for 3.0.2
16:14.18Repo- only show per realm money in tooltip (cross-realm money display later maybe later...)
16:14.27KaeltenDodge: If I could figure out *how* to make it happen, I'll know where to look to fix
16:14.55KnaledgeDodge - try just running ONeBag itself
16:15.01Knaledgethen work up to anything frame related
16:15.04Pheredhelok, then I was right, when I just resubmitted the report after about 5 days or so, might have been lost then
16:15.19Repo10broker_money: 03smb 04v1.2 * r8 : Tagging as v1.2.
16:15.22[SW]DodgeKaelten: yea, i'll try to figure how to reproduce that but it is to random to see a possible reason
16:15.22KaeltenDodge: I've *never* gotten this bug, but its been reported forever
16:15.31dodgaOkay found it, it's BetterQuest
16:15.37ZhinjioI wonder if there's a way to script the anchoringof the panel or something.
16:15.38KaeltenI wonder if its skinner
16:15.38Zhinjiohmm
16:15.52dodgaKemayo! You're tainting my UIError frame :D
16:16.21NivFreakZhinjio: please please please please FIX SKG
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16:17.01NivFreakit's just the UI
16:17.16Knaledgewhat does SKG do? The description is raid loot distro
16:17.21Knaledgebut.. err.. heh
16:17.30Knaledgeany more info somewhere?
16:17.30Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r264 modules/Runes.lua:
16:17.31Repo- fixed runes module misbehaving after loading into the world when ooc alpha was set to 0
16:17.43PaeneAnyone familiar with SVN want to tell me how I can checkout only the files within the trunk folder, and not trunk folder itself...for example, I'm currently getting a path like Addons/Cryolysis3/trunk/blah, I want Addons/Cryolysis3/blah
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16:18.25asmodaisvn checkout http://remote/repo/trunk/blah Addons/Cryolysis3/
16:18.37asmodaiand should give you blah under Cryolysis3
16:18.38NivFreakKnaledge: it's a took to admin a suicide kings loot system
16:18.40ZhinjioKnaledge: http://skg.trippy.org/wiki/
16:18.46fewyndo i want a phone with a keyboard? y/n?
16:18.47asmodaior even need to do
16:18.51asmodaisvn checkout http://remote/repo/trunk/blah Addons/Cryolysis3/blah
16:18.53Paeneasmodal: blah represents a ton of files
16:18.57NivFreakZhinjio: please tell me you're going to get it update soon
16:19.00NivFreakupdated
16:19.05NivFreaklike today :)
16:19.05PaeneI was everything in the trunk folder, without trunk itself
16:19.32ZhinjioI"m about to go to sleep. I was up all night with a screaming baby.
16:19.39Paene*want
16:19.44NivFreakjoin the club!
16:19.45NivFreak:)
16:20.10Repo10lern2count: 03jerry * r116 lern2count.toc: update TOC
16:20.22wallenIs it a 3.0.2 feature the one that doesn't display tooltips over party unitframes if those are in a different location than yours?
16:20.49Arrowmasterno
16:20.52sylvanaarhttp://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=245139&postcount=186
16:20.52Paeneso instead of getting Cryolysis3/trunk/all of the other files for my addon  I want Cryolysis3/all of the other files for my addon
16:21.30sylvanaarsomeone look at that and tell me they can repro it please
16:21.30Knaledgeso we are looking to do.... loot council, using a pre-determined list that each raid member is responsible for maintaining. this list has their desired loot on it. The loot council meets during the week (before after raids) to discuss the list each member posted, and we organize who has a higher priority ti get what, before the next raid.
16:21.37wallenI remember it wasn't like that pre-2.3, the last time I played wow
16:21.48KnaledgeWe are using NRT to track looting in raid... and we want to use some kind of DKP to track attendance.
16:23.52asmodaihttp://videogames.yahoo.com/featurescreenshot?eid=1255557&index=0
16:23.55asmodaithat's just too sick
16:24.16Knaledgeoh thats that 26 player guy
16:24.21EvilJohn-36
16:24.23asmodai36 even
16:24.24Knaledgethats called "I need a life"
16:24.32Knaledge... outside of Azeroth.
16:24.47kagaroZhinjio: you could script it, listen for target change event, party change events and then do Pitbull:IterateUnitFramesForUnit(unit) to get the frame ref for reparenting
16:25.12asmodai"It costs me exactly $5711 in subscription costs per year with 36 accounts on the 6 month pay schedule," he writes.
16:25.13ZhinjioI was just about to ask ckknight for details on that. Excellent.
16:25.27Zhinjioasmodai: fairly old news.
16:25.36asmodaiguess so
16:25.46sbhmm
16:25.47sbpeople are sick
16:25.52sb50g for glyph of aquatic form
16:25.54Knaledgeyeah that is unhealthy.
16:25.59Knaledgethat too
16:25.59sbwtf?? i dont get it :)
16:25.59Funkeh`what the hell
16:26.08Funkeh`im getting total graphics corruption in wow
16:26.18sbsold 5 glyphs so far...
16:26.29Pollekeehmm... my project GridStatusRes is owned by wowaceSVN. The FAQ states I need "to claim ownership over it with your WoWAce account". How do I do that?
16:26.30Knaledgeoh noes - a puffy capacitor on your vid card prehaps?!?!?
16:26.43sylvanaarnvdia?
16:26.47StanzillaArrowmaster: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=245000#post245000
16:26.56Funkeh`ati, but it's just wow
16:26.58Arrowmasterwhat
16:27.03Arrowmasterim about to walk out the door
16:27.26ArrowmasterOH FUCKING GAY
16:27.28Zhinjiokagaro: how hard would it be to include that in kgpanels itself?
16:27.31Stanzilla^^
16:27.35DragonWinKaelten: I have the problem right now where all items are grey and I can't use / move any of them. If I try I move the frame instead
16:27.37pastamancerPolleke: poke someone who works for curse... kael, ckk, not sure who else can change ownership
16:27.38Zhinjiothats some whacky stuff to attach to each panel.
16:27.41kagaroa pitbull specific hack?
16:27.50Arrowmasterthe forums converted my "ITS BROKEN!" into "Its Broken!"
16:27.56kagaroas my current dynamic frame handling works with stuff like agUF
16:28.02sylvanaarhaha
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16:28.12DragonWinKaelten: relogging /rl does not solve the problem. Deleting the onebag3.lua and bak files does not solve it either
16:28.12Zhinjioyes, thats what I'm suggesting.
16:28.19Pollekeckknight, poke
16:28.20KnaledgeAnyone have a feature comparison of each unit frame addon?
16:28.24ArrowmasterKaelten: ^^ i dislike that forum feature!
16:28.25kagaropitbull is a case of reusing a frame called party1 for target at some later point
16:28.36Knaledgelike.. Pitbull vs UnderHood vs ag_uf vs X-Perl, etc. ?
16:28.43Pollekepastamancer, I'll give it a try. Thanks
16:28.44Arrowmasterok walking out door to class now
16:28.55DragonWinArrowmaster: have fun
16:29.06ZhinjioI guess thats a no, eh?
16:29.22dodgatekticles no workie :(
16:29.47kagaroyou can do a script to handle the case, and kgPanels is generic not unit frame specific
16:30.07Zhinjiook
16:30.12kagaroOther option would be to use PitBull to get the frame in question and/or send a callback when it changes
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16:30.24ZhinjioI'll work on it when I get some time.
16:30.29Zhinjiothanks for your suggestions.
16:31.32PaeneSo the new SVN doesn't use externals anymore, so when doing a SVN checkout, we won't get the most up-to-date libs?
16:32.13Xinhuanrofl
16:32.15kagaroZhinjio:  maybe an good case for a seperate addon to keep track of dynamic unit frame type mod to handle that kinda unit frame recycling
16:32.21Xinhuana bunch of horde is trying to kill tyrande on my server RIGHT NOW
16:32.24Xinhuanand she is refusing to die
16:32.30Xinhuanwhenever she reaches 2% or 1%
16:32.33PrimerYou go girl!
16:32.34Zhinjiokagaro: yup.
16:32.35Xinhuana priest on alliance side
16:32.39Funkeh`Knaledge, reboot to the rescue it would seem
16:32.41Xinhuanwould cast [Guardian Spirit] on her
16:32.48Xinhuanshe doesn't die and instead heals back to 50%
16:32.53Primerhaha
16:32.53Xinhuanlololol
16:32.53Primernice
16:32.54kagaroXinhuan: hahah
16:32.57Zhinjioidles to sleep.
16:32.57Xinhuanits been about 10 min now
16:33.00Xinhuanof guardian spirits
16:33.04nevcairielisnt she like level 80 anyway?
16:33.04Xinhuanhorde is PISSED
16:33.06Xinhuanyeah
16:33.12Xinhuanthat's why it takes it so long
16:33.16Xinhuanto bring her down from 50 -> 1%
16:33.19PrimerSo pvp flags don't go up even then?
16:33.19Xinhuanfor her to heal back to 50%
16:33.25Xinhuanpretty much
16:33.32PrimerI'm guessing this is a carebear realm?
16:33.36Repo10grid-status-lifebloom: 03Azethoth * r34 GridStatusLifebloom.lua: -- Clean up some commented out code
16:33.41Xinhuanpvp server
16:33.52Primerthen perhaps kill the priest?
16:33.52XinhuanBlackrock bg9 represent!
16:34.07Xinhuanthere's enouhg priests around that can self-rez and instacast the spirit
16:34.11Xinhuanat the right time
16:34.21pastamancerdamn, guardian spirit looks nice...  holy priests get all the cool toys
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16:34.34Primerahh, so they're waiting to res with her targeted, and just rez and cast
16:34.39Xinhuanright now
16:34.42Xinhuanbecause tyrande is lvl 83
16:34.50Xinhuanthey are taking about 90 seconds to bring her from 50% to 1%
16:34.58Xinhuanand spirit guardian has a cooldown of 3 min
16:35.01PrimerYeah, I went full holy on my priest after the patch, I've cast that a few times, but only in a 5 man heroic
16:35.04Xinhuanjust needs 2 priests to rotate lol
16:35.15Pollekeor kill the priest?
16:35.29Xinhuanlike i said
16:35.31Xinhuanthe priest just corpse runs
16:35.32Primerwasn't really able to gauge its effectiveness
16:35.32MikkThat's the point. Rez->Cast happens before you even see the priest being rezzed due to lag
16:35.42Xinhuanrez-instacast on tyrande
16:35.43MikkGranted they'll run into reztimer
16:35.47MikkAfter a bit :S
16:35.51Xinhuanyeah there's at least 5 priests there now
16:35.55Xinhuannot an issue
16:36.01Xinhuantyrande isn't going to die ;p
16:36.53MikkHmmm.. Can someone think of somewhere that drops a boatload of green items so you can easily test a masterloot addon?
16:37.01MikkOh wait... sillythus
16:37.13Knaledgeyeah or gnomer
16:37.30Knaledgeall that green slime shit you put in those machines
16:37.36MikkOoh
16:37.52MikkNext question! Anyone sitting on Coldarra atm that I can steal for a group? =)
16:37.54XinhuanMikk: Stockades
16:37.57Xinhuan6 bosses in it
16:38.01Knaledgeplus then, you can bolster your ego by pounding on some ezmode mobs
16:38.03Xinhuanand you can aoe pull the whole place in one pull
16:38.08MikkDruid!
16:38.19Xinhuansame thing, just bear form and thorns them to death
16:38.20Xinhuanthen hurricane
16:38.24MikkThen again ->  barkskin+aoe works i guess
16:38.32Xinhuanand swipe has no target limits now
16:38.34Knaledgeyeah dude wtf druids with that hot they have
16:38.36Xinhuanyou hit ALL of them
16:38.43KnaledgeI get ticks from a T6 + SWP druid for like 2200
16:38.45Xinhuanstoackades is good because there's no casters in it too, they are all melee
16:38.46Knaledgenot even kidding.
16:38.56Xinhuanso you don't even need to los those mobs
16:39.00Xinhuanto getthem to run to you
16:39.07MikkYeah stockades is good
16:40.21KnaledgeXinhuan - awesome work on Omen3 by the way bud
16:40.29Xinhuan:)
16:40.36KnaledgeYou've come a long way even with BankItems in there
16:40.37DarkAuditI pulled Killing Spree off on some guards in the dwarf/gnome starting area while doing the exploring badge... did it in front of a newbie gnome rogue... I think I have a groupie now
16:40.40Knaledgegood stuff.
16:41.42KnaledgeHey sylvanaar  with Prat 3
16:42.05Fastiany other tinytip like addon?
16:42.07Knaledgeremember the script you helped me with that allowed me to toggle chat tabs with a macro AND completely hide the chat buttons?
16:42.13Knaledgeit was like..
16:42.26Knaledge<PROTECTED>
16:42.28Knaledgesomething like that
16:43.08KnaledgeI was using a macro to change chat tabs but couldn't get the chat scroll arrows and such to hide - you helped me with that and I'm wondering if Prat 3 has evolved to not require it anymore
16:43.43FacktotumFasti: http://fin.instinct.org/wowmods/i/8032:ranttooltip
16:43.48sylvanaarlol someone confirm this. I need to re-test popupmessage where it appears lower in the list of modules so as not to have an index greater than the number of chatframes
16:43.50sylvanaarhttp://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14602
16:43.52Knaledge<PROTECTED>
16:43.54Knaledge/script Prat_ChatButtons.OnUpdateInterval = 0.01
16:43.57sylvanaarsrsly
16:44.27sylvanaarKnaledge that was prat 2
16:44.38KnaledgeYeah - that last part was your recommendation
16:44.41Knaledgethe OnUpdateInterval
16:44.44Knaledgeit worked great but
16:44.49Knaledgeis that required anymore? that is.
16:44.49sylvanaarprat2
16:44.50Matrix110uhm
16:44.52sylvanaarno
16:44.58Matrix110is [flyable] returning true in Darnassus?
16:45.10Knaledgeso whatever that was doing - Prat 3 is doing it now
16:45.11Matrix110My macro works fine in IF but in Darnassus You cant use that item here
16:46.14KnaledgeALso - is it still not possible to make a custom macro flash now?
16:46.23sylvanaarKnaledge it was because you wanted the text to wrap around the buttons without any delay. and prat3 isnt doing that
16:46.38KnaledgeLike... can I make a macro button on my actionbar flash when I get a whisper, let's say?
16:46.42Fastioh there's lots of tooltips
16:46.55Fastiway too many :P
16:47.36sylvanaaryeah
16:47.38KnaledgeSylvanaar are you sure? I thought you helped me with that to make it so that when I get chat messages, it wouldn't keep popping up the default blizz UI chat buttons?
16:48.08sylvanaaridk
16:48.24Knaledgelike we couldn't set it to "0" because it would error out, so we had to do 0.01 .. this controlled the opacity I believe.. of something.
16:49.08sylvanaarNo, it controlled how often the corrections were made. and im pretty sure it was for text wrapping
16:49.48Repo10alarlib: 03alar * r123 Libs/: AlarLib
16:49.48RepoREmoved externals
16:50.03Xinhuanheh they are still going at it
16:50.13Xinhuan50% -> 1% -> 50% -> 1% -> 50% -> 1% ->
16:50.18Xinhuan50% -> 1% -> 50% -> 1% -> horde ported out
16:50.28Primerhahaha
16:50.43Repo10alarlib: 03alar * r124 / (3 files in 2 directories): AlarLib
16:50.44RepoCleaned up tree. No more externals
16:50.45Xinhuanwell they just left
16:50.46Funkeh`thanks alar
16:50.49Xinhuanhow long as it been?
16:50.52Funkeh`was getting annoyed with no 3.0 update
16:51.00sylvanaarlol
16:51.02Repo10cryolysis3: 03Belazor * r18 Cryolysis3.toc:
16:51.02RepoFixed inability to open the configuration menu in some scenarios.
16:51.39Repo10cryolysis3: 03Belazor 04v3.0-beta3 * r19 : Tagging as v3.0-beta3.
16:51.40Xinhuanthere's going to be forum QQ now
16:51.49sbvhaarr: yap, oRA timers broken
16:51.54sbits all 60min now
16:53.00Fisker-destroys
16:53.05sylvanaari have my brez timer pop up for no reason in oRA2.
16:53.27vhaarrsb: I'll fix it on sunday if I get the bug as well then
16:58.07Matrix110ui fixing fails-.-
16:58.36Fisker-Funkeh`
16:58.41Fisker-garden2game.com >:E
16:58.44Fisker-not blacklisted
16:58.50Funkeh`not helpful
16:58.55Fisker-QQ
16:59.27Funkeh`Fisker-, entire line
16:59.55Fastimm fubar_calendar being made? :)
17:00.14*** join/#wowace Vilkku (n=Vilkku@86-60-157-18-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi)
17:00.43Fisker-www.garden2game.com
17:00.50Fisker-22200G in stock
17:00.59Fisker-Thos are 2 seperate messages btw
17:01.04Fisker-Then it got blocked
17:01.22Funkeh`well maybe it doesn't like you
17:01.29Fisker-:(
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17:01.34Fisker-nobody likes me
17:01.37Fisker-not even Arrowmaster
17:01.41Fisker-even though i've been so schweet
17:02.19ArrowmasterClassdamn right i dont
17:02.34Xinhuanwhy would ppl need/want a fubar_calendar
17:02.37Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r50 addon/locales.lua:
17:02.38RepoEnable enUS as the default locale. This should enable non enUS users to function. Thanks X-buZZ
17:03.11p3limwhat was GetPlayerBuff replaced with?
17:06.07StanzillaUnitAura stuff
17:06.52pastamancerXinhuan: because their minimap mod hides the calendar?
17:07.06Xinhuanthose minimap mods should have options to toggle it ehhe
17:07.07Xinhuanhehe
17:07.22Xinhuanor u can use /calendar
17:07.24Xinhuanto open it
17:07.33Xinhuanor /achieve to open the achievements one
17:07.44Xinhuandon't even need to type it fully, just type /cal<tab><enter> :)
17:07.54pastamancertyping is hard, spelling is harder
17:08.05Facktotump3lim: UnitAura(unit, index, filter)
17:08.10Xinhuanharden up! :)
17:08.35Chosiis there a working drdamage?
17:08.40Repo10sanity2: 03Pastamancer 07guildbank * r95 / (3 files in 2 directories): Sanity2: fixed .pkgmeta and externals, updated toc
17:08.41Chosior do i have to use theorygay?
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17:09.19p3limFacktotum: thanks
17:09.23theoddone33Xinhuan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y
17:09.33LukianParnic, yo
17:09.41Xinhuanhaha
17:09.44odthow do you enable buggrabber/bugsack/fubar/broker2fubar at the same time? i try to load those to troubleshoot my pitbull issue, but then even fubar won't start
17:10.00odtsome addon is seriously messing things up
17:10.22p3limGetPlayerBuffDispelType still there?
17:12.45odtdmn UI hell
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17:13.54evlAny quick reference to 3.0 APi changes anywhere?
17:14.01Repo10craft-list2: 03Athou * r132 / (2 files in 1 directory): CraftList2:
17:14.02Repo- 3.0 compatibility
17:14.59Xinhuanwoo someone fixed it
17:16.05Repo10sanity-item-cache: 03Pastamancer 07guildbank * r53 / (2 files in 1 directory): SanityItemCache: fixed .pkgmeta, updated toc
17:16.11theoddone33that guardian spirit thing on tyrande is pro
17:16.26theoddone33I was playing with it in kara last night
17:16.47theoddone33my biggest problem was that the tank was too much taunting and feign death
17:16.57theoddone33er wow that sentence sucked
17:17.00Chosiis prat3 working yet?
17:17.04Chosii miss mousewheel scrolling
17:17.14Chosiand which fubar should i use? 2 or 3?
17:17.19Chosiredoing my addons now from scratch
17:17.28vhaarrevl: US forums
17:17.57Repo10sanity-item-cache: 03Pastamancer 042.1.1-guildbank-beta * r54 :
17:17.58RepoTagging version 2.1.1 of the guildbank branch.  Hopefully the package builds properly.
17:18.34KriLL3Chosi: chatter has that, and it's working
17:18.38Chosiah okay
17:18.55Chosithanks
17:18.59KriLL3np
17:19.03Chosiso which fubar to use?
17:19.14[dRaCo]3
17:19.17KriLL3ugh
17:19.22MikkFuBar2Broker + Fortress
17:19.23Mikk:o)
17:19.36KriLL3I don't understand why people decided to start with LDB stuff
17:19.43ChosiShows your FuBar addons in your LDB display.
17:19.46Chosiwth is ldb anyways?
17:19.49Chosi:P
17:19.56KriLL3the great new thing!
17:19.58KriLL3(tm)
17:20.01MikkLDB is a standard that ties together addons that want to be shown in bars... and bar viewer addons
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17:20.12KriLL3it was titanbar -> fubar -> LDB
17:20.22MikkExcept LDB is just a small standard and not an addon
17:20.27Repo10sanity2: 03Pastamancer 042.2.1-guildbank-beta * r96 :
17:20.28RepoTagging version 2.2.1 of the guildbank branch.  Hopefully the package builds properly.
17:20.28[dRaCo]though titanbar supports LDB
17:20.30KriLL3and LDB requires a ton of parts to get to work etc
17:20.37Mikkeh what are you smoking?
17:20.41MikkLDB requires next to nothing
17:20.48Mikkfor addons wanting to be displayed
17:20.54KriLL3fubar is one addon, you add plugins to it
17:20.56MikkLibFuBar has comparatively huge
17:20.59Navv_statblockcore seemed to be enough for me
17:21.04Navv_to get ldb icon thingees on screen
17:21.09Josh_Borkestatblock_core works
17:21.11Josh_Borkeas does fortress
17:21.18MikkAnd? Now, instead of FuBar, you get to choose ANY DISPLAY YOU LIKE
17:21.24KriLL3I like fubar
17:21.25MikkFuBar, Titan, Fortress, .... and half a dozen more
17:21.28MikkSo use FuBar
17:21.33MikkI don't like FuBar myself, so I don't have to use it now
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17:21.35KriLL3LDB stuff doesn't work well with it
17:21.36MikkEveryone is happy
17:21.41Josh_BorkeKriLL3: continue to use fubar and use Broker2Fubar
17:21.42[dRaCo]fubar doesnt support LDB yet, does it?
17:21.49MikkIt does with Broker2FuBar installed
17:21.49[dRaCo]native, that is
17:21.50Josh_BorkeKriLL3: that's because none of the LDB developers like fubar :-P
17:21.52[dRaCo]yeah
17:21.53KriLL3Josh_Borke: no right click
17:22.01MikkSomeone said that was fixed like today
17:22.05KriLL3no
17:22.29Josh_Borkei'm happy with my fortress setup
17:22.34MikkI use fortress too
17:22.35KriLL3I've talked with the author and he just giggled when I asked eta on rightclick
17:22.39MikkMight get a minimap pinholer too
17:22.54Josh_Borkei set it up exactly like i would have set up fubar
17:23.12KriLL3does fortress have support for fubar plugins, and does it make a proper bar you can skin?
17:23.20Josh_Borkenope
17:23.31KriLL3then it's rubbish
17:23.37Josh_Borkefor you :-)
17:23.38Mikkto you maybe
17:23.38Mikknot to me
17:23.41Josh_Borkefor me it works great
17:23.50KriLL380% of my bar bits are fubar plugins
17:23.59Josh_BorkeKriLL3: then keep using fubar?
17:24.00MikkAnd with FuBar2Broker, you get fubar plugins in ANY LDB displayer
17:24.09KriLL3Josh_Borke: I'm missing 20% :(
17:24.12Josh_Borkewhat LDB are you using?
17:24.19MikkMe? Only Fortress right now
17:24.20KriLL3Broker2Fubar
17:24.29MikkErr yeah that way
17:24.30Josh_Borkei don't know of many (if any) LDB that aren't also fubar plugins
17:24.38MikkI do
17:24.44Josh_Borkebesides tek's :-P
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17:25.34KriLL3closetgnome, bartender4
17:26.00Josh_Borkeyou could always use a LDB display and put it on to your fubar bar
17:26.11KriLL3I do, but it's not supporting right click
17:26.12Josh_Borkethen you get your clicks and your styling
17:26.17Josh_Borkeno, don't use Broker2Fubar
17:26.30Josh_Borkeuse StatBlockCore or Fortress and set the background to be transparent
17:26.36Mikk*snork*
17:26.40Josh_Borkethen _hope_ that the blocks end up on TOP of the fubar bar
17:26.43Josh_Borke~lart mikk
17:26.43purlkeeps mailing mikk free America Online CDs until he drowns
17:26.45theoddone33can you change actionbar paging with a /script command in combat?
17:26.53Josh_Borketheoddone33: no
17:26.56Funkeh`Josh_Borke, you can change strata in statblockcore
17:26.57Josh_Borkemaybe?
17:27.04Josh_BorkeKriLL3: ^^
17:27.09MikkI'm not getting the problem with clicks though.. is it a spec problem or a developer pebcak problem?
17:27.10Funkeh`to put it above or below a bar
17:27.24Josh_BorkeMikk: it's probably a mixture of both
17:27.31kadrahilhmm
17:27.33kadrahili has a question
17:27.36kadrahilDistracting Shot
17:27.37kadrahilDistracts the target to attack you, but has no effect if the target is already attacking you. Lasts 6 sec.
17:27.46kadrahildoes that mean distracting shot ignores the misdirection buff now?
17:27.47Josh_BorkeMikk: since i don't think the LDB spec specifies what .click is for (assuming .click is the right handler)
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17:28.36Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r4775 / (3 files in 1 directory): BigWigs: quick attempt at a minimap ldb icon
17:28.50KriLL3just had a pala call mmo-champ "a gossip rag" "I don't see anything about retribution" "that's not a blue poster (@ ghostcrawler)" Denial is a river in Africa.
17:28.58MikkGetMouseButtonClicked() ?
17:29.03MikkNot hard? oO
17:29.08Funkeh`OnCLick
17:29.44KriLL3eeriliy familiar to my old action script...
17:30.30MikkGetMouseButtonClicked() returns e.g. "LeftButton", "RightButton" inside any code that was executed because of a mouse click happening
17:31.15ArrowmasterClassthe OnClick handler sends the mouse button and if it was an up or down event in the args
17:31.27sylvanaarret pallies are so funny with the whole nerf thing, making the pallies cry is fun
17:31.35theoddone33wasn't there an /actionbar1 /actionbar2 etc command when the new macro system first came out?
17:31.50ArrowmasterClassyeah /changeactionbar
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17:31.58theoddone33ah that's it
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17:32.26MikkArrowmaster: Yeah of course. The question is if that gets passed on to LDB events.
17:32.36wallenDoes anyone know how to display tooltips over party unitframes even when those are in a different location than yours?
17:32.58theoddone33I can do /changeactionbar 1 in combat but I can't do /script ChangeActionBar(1) ...
17:33.16theoddone33makes sense I guess because it could use a variable + logic with script
17:33.20NivFreakKolie: I'm trying the CC windows updater in wine for my linux install ;)
17:33.43odtdoes mapster support old carto notes?
17:34.00odtand how would importing them look like
17:34.25Adirellekadrahil: test yourself with your pet
17:35.17Adirellekadrahil: I tested it already and yes, distracting shot ignore misdirection, actually I think it doesn't even generate threat
17:36.21quiescensits more of a taunt now isn't it
17:36.34kagarowtb tradeskill ui to sort glyphs by major and minor
17:38.12theoddone33did 3.0 add any changes to the macro language?
17:38.48evla break statement in lua breaks out of the nearest while/for loop?
17:39.09KriLL3theoddone33: some things changed
17:39.26KriLL3mounts are spells now, not items, so if a cast fails it stops there
17:39.39KriLL3before I had travelform lower in the macro and it used travel if I was moving :(
17:40.15BaraiusOoooh...that was cool...wish I had known about that.
17:40.22HjalteOften when trying to log in to wow, I get a critical error saying that there is not enough available memory to process the command. Is this happening to anyone else? (I'm pretty sure it's an addon problem)
17:41.17ckknightpastamancer: pong
17:41.20ckknighterr
17:41.21ckknightPolleke: pong
17:43.44KriLL3is it possible to ignore guilds?
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17:44.05quiescensprobably
17:44.19Repo10itembonuslib: 03Swix * r150 ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: Added ruRU locale
17:44.20balstorhjalte haven't seen but yhea some bad addon like bannabar could do that
17:44.34balstorspeaking of which bannabar should be marked do not use
17:44.48theoddone33any docs on the custom conditional stuff in bartender4?
17:44.52theoddone33can't seem to locate any
17:45.24theoddone33ah, found it
17:45.31theoddone33it's just macro conditions
17:45.42Hjaltebalstor: I'm pretty sure that almost all the addons I use are updated for the patch. I've done a lot of testing but I can't find a culprit. I guess I'll have to wipe my addons folder and start adding addons one at a time. But it doesn't always happen, so it's very difficult to trace.
17:45.54Pollekeckknight, my project GridStatusRes is owned by wowaceSVN. The FAQ states I need "to claim ownership over it with your WoWAce account". How do I do that?
17:46.04PneumatusPolleke: report it
17:46.08ckknightPolleke: or just tell me
17:46.13ckknightgimmeh link to the wowace project
17:46.22Pollekehttp://www.wowace.com/projects/grid-status-res/
17:46.50sbmhh
17:46.53sbis FCF_FlashTab still available?
17:49.23NeoTronZeksie: in x-perl the variable classOrder is accessed but never defined.
17:50.41Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r51 modules/AltNames.lua: Drycode changes to altnames to update for 3.0
17:51.09Repo10xloot: 03mikk * r344 / (5 files in 2 directories):
17:51.10NeoTronwas in the middle of making BulkMail2Inbox work last night when my server completely bugged out (for the rest of the evening)
17:51.10RepoXLoot: Update for 3.0. Xuerian seems awol so I'll be doing the minimum work required just to keep it working for now.
17:51.20NeoTronMikk: many thanks
17:51.23Repo10xloot-group: 03mikk * r56 XLootGroup.toc:
17:51.23RepoXLootGroup: Update for 3.0. Xuerian seems awol so I'll be doing the minimum work required just to keep it working for now.
17:51.29balstorhjalte I remember back in the day certain raid frames would crash you if you logged in while your toon was a member of a raid
17:51.30Repo10xloot-master: 03mikk * r70 / (3 files in 1 directory):
17:51.31RepoXLootMaster: Update for 3.0. Xuerian seems awol so I'll be doing the minimum work required just to keep it working for now.
17:51.36[dRaCo]yeah, thanks :D
17:51.38Repo10xloot-monitor: 03mikk * r101 XLootMonitor.toc:
17:51.39RepoXLootMonitor: Update for 3.0. Xuerian seems awol so I'll be doing the minimum work required just to keep it working for now.
17:51.48Hjaltebalstor: I'm afraid I'm ungrouped most of the time :(
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17:52.25NeoTronMikk:  I was looking forward to fixing xloot myself so glad someone else id oing it.
17:53.14sbmhhhhm
17:53.14sbInterface\FrameXML\StaticPopup.lua:809: attempt to index local 'self' (a nil value):LibResComm-1.0\LibResComm-1.0.lua:297: in function `OnShow'oRA2_Participant-2.0\Participant.lua:216: in function <Interface\AddOns\oRA2_Participant\Participant.lua:215>
17:53.14Loonacyhugs Mikk.
17:53.14sbvhaarr? :)
17:53.46simlanI have a question now that wowace is dead: what is the place to adinister my old ace addons that are now on curse?
17:54.03simlanIs there any webpage with information on that topic?
17:54.12ArrowmasterClasswww.wowace.com
17:54.24sb+ i have an empty "rezz / release" dialog when dead..
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17:56.11BaraiusOooh...just saw that.  /cheer Mikk
17:56.54Mikkwowace is NOT dead
17:56.55Mikkonly files.wowace
17:56.56Mikk>.<
17:57.08Mikk(who the hell is spreading "wowace is dead" ?!?!)
17:57.10LoonacyWowace is dead, long live Wowace!
17:57.18simlandoes it mean that I can still use my old SVN?
17:57.20Cheadswhat happened to the CC download link at http://www.curse.com/client/ ?
17:57.29Mikksimlan: it's still there, it just got rearranged a bit so everyone has their own repo
17:57.55Mikkif you don't have access to your repo, it'll be fixed if you ping an admin
17:58.13NeoTronsome projects use git but overall it works pretty much the same from a developer PoV
17:58.17NeoTronexcept it works better
17:58.32simlanIt's been a while since my last check-in and I lost all information about the SVN - except my username and the password
17:58.33Mikkand we get proper release tagging !!!!
17:58.50NeoTronsimlan: what is your project name?
17:58.53Mikksimlan: search for your project on www.wowace.com. click "repositories".
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17:59.40simlanah great, thanks Mikk
17:59.42baer_hi
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18:00.55baer_i got a strange problem with pitbull, for some reason i still see the original char frames (from blizzard), but not any of the other unitframes.
18:01.10KriLL3missing libs
18:01.31kagarovhaarr: crafty gnome is working with inscriptions properly
18:01.41p3limGetPlayerBuffDispelType got replaced with...?
18:02.07baer_KriLL3: well, how can i find out, what's missing?
18:02.25KriLL3error messages
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18:02.45baer_hmm... there were no error messages about pitbull, while starting
18:02.55pastamancerp3lim: UnitBuff and UnitDebuff
18:03.05p3limhuh?
18:03.07theoddone33any way to get a button press from an action bar to simulate a shift/ctrl hold?
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18:03.33pastamancerp3lim: dispel type is one of the return values from Unit(De)Buff
18:03.35Mezir|SemiAFKquite an act to join the channel <_<
18:03.43Repo10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r211 / (4 files in 1 directory): BadBoy: blacklist update
18:03.43Mezir|SemiAFKwell is there already a way to use bartender again?
18:03.44p3limhm ok
18:03.53p3limalso a return from UnitAura, right?
18:04.06KriLL3yes bartender has worked since beta
18:04.26pastamancerp3lim: dunno
18:04.30NivFreakbartender4 to be clear
18:04.30Repo10craft-list2: 03Athou 04v3.0 * r133 : Tagging as v3.0
18:04.42KriLL3yes 4
18:04.42Repo10xloot: 03mikk 040.9-30000 * r345 : Tagging as 0.9-30000.
18:04.53Mezir|SemiAFKgreat -.- i used bt3 so...i have to rebuild everything?
18:05.00KriLL3yes
18:05.06Mezir|SemiAFKor is there a way to us bt4 with my bt3 setup?
18:05.13Repo10xloot-group: 03mikk 040.5-3000 * r57 : Tagging as 0.5-3000.
18:05.13KriLL3no ide
18:05.24KriLL3ask the author
18:05.38Repo10xloot-master: 03mikk 040.7-30000 * r71 : Tagging as 0.7-30000.
18:06.10Repo10xloot-monitor: 03mikk 040.7-30000 * r102 : Tagging as 0.7-30000.
18:06.29MikkGreat. "3000" indeed
18:06.29baer_aaaah.
18:06.32NeoTronso the problem with pStats + LDB seems to be that the "mousewheel" functionality isn't registered in any way with LDB
18:06.38baer_looks like every module in pitbull was disabled.
18:06.41NeoTronso an LDB viewer couldn't handle it even if it wanted to
18:06.48Repo10xloot-group: 03mikk 040.5-30000 * r58 : Tagging as 0.5-30000.
18:06.57KriLL3fubar has mouse scroll
18:06.58p3limNeoTron: doesnt work
18:07.08NeoTronKriLL3: this isn't fubar however
18:07.13p3limif tekkub adds :EnableMouseWheel() to LDB ill add it
18:07.16KriLL3just saying
18:07.29MikkAdding mousewheel functionality to ldb sounds like a very bad idea to me
18:07.36MikkSeeing as how an LDB displayer might show things in a scrollable list
18:07.38simlanhow long does it take until updates to the WoWAce SVN are traveled to the curse client?
18:07.48Mikksimlan: 1 minuteish
18:07.51Belazoramg xloot is getting updated?
18:07.54NeoTronMikk: optionally allowing it doesn't sound like a bad idea
18:07.54Belazorrelevant to my internets!
18:08.06simlanMikk: oh really?
18:08.16simlanthats quite fast :)
18:08.20chiperxloot! yay!
18:08.22NeoTronp3lim: all that should be needed is to provide the OnMouseWheel function to LDB... and then the LDB displayer could optionally implement it. no?
18:08.41MikkYeah but that sounds a bit like random functionality :S
18:08.48NeoTronMezir|SemiAFK: no, you need to set up BT4 from scratch
18:08.58p3limNeoTron: no, LDB doesnt register the mousewheel in the first place
18:09.10Josh_BorkeLDB doesn't register anything
18:09.11p3limtried to provide it, didnt do any good
18:09.11NeoTronp3lim: LDB doesn't register anything, the display addons do
18:09.13CheadsMikk I can think of many LDB lists that coud use that.. especially if you use a low res monitor
18:09.17Josh_BorkeLDB is a simple go between objects and displays
18:09.25NeoTronp3lim: you can provide it and I can implement it in ButtonBin
18:09.32NeoTronbut no, it doesn't handle it now, nor does any other wise
18:09.37NeoTronsince it's not part of the current spec
18:10.12MikkWhat always will work is popping out a little frame say "mousewheel me in here!"
18:10.33Mikksaying*
18:10.37CheadsI think that's the idea too
18:11.01NeoTronsure you could implement it like that as well but then you move the tooltip handling from the LDB viewer to the LDB data provider
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18:11.15MikkErmmmmmmmm
18:11.26MikkDoes ldb viewers do tooltips at all right now?
18:11.27KriLL3I'm 11 quests short in blade's edge and only quest I can find is Grim(ore) Business, wrd
18:11.29KriLL3*wtf
18:11.31NeoTronyes
18:11.33NeoTronof course
18:11.41KriLL3any ideas people?
18:11.43p3limNeoTron: sure, ill do that
18:11.52Mikkp3lim: Don't do stuff that isn't in the spec
18:11.56MikkBad idea
18:12.02p3limwhat do you mean Mikk ?
18:12.10NeoTronp3lim: you can provide your own OnEnter/OnLeave and then make it so you mouse into the tooltip and scroll that way
18:12.18NeoTronMikk: then fix the spec!
18:12.43Mikkp3lim: Oh hum I might have misunderstood you
18:12.55NeoTronit's a valid use case for things like pStats and say a reputation monitor
18:13.09ulicKriLL3: start going to all the quest givers, http://www.wowhead.com/?zone=3522#quests?
18:13.23MikkPopping out a dropdown list that you can scroll in seems a lot better to me
18:13.36chiperKriLL3: once you do grim(ore) you open up all the og'rila quests
18:13.59MikkMore userfriendly and doesn't create usage problems for ldb viewers
18:14.28KriLL3ulic: thx chiper: where do I find 4 guys to do that with?
18:14.32NeoTronwhat FuBar does is to allow you to mouse into the tooltip that opens and thus interact with it
18:14.44chiperKriLL3: pug it, there's always people doing those quests
18:14.49NeoTronyou can do that with LDB since FuBar addons keep working like that with FuBar2Broker
18:14.49chiperor, you know, ask your guild
18:15.06KriLL3they're less than 4 ppl =P
18:15.15MikkWell.. asking addons to paint their own tooltips if they want to interact with them hardly seems bad to me
18:15.22MikkMuch less lock-in
18:15.33KriLL3NeoTron: I support making long tooltips scrollable, I don't support making tooltips into full blown nested configuration
18:16.09NeoTronfubar addons that do this is the rep one where you can choose which rep to track using the tooltip and the thing like pstats that show memory usage
18:16.34MikkAnd Baggins where you can click bags.
18:16.37Cheadstopscore does it too
18:16.39MikkAnd several others I'm sure
18:16.45Josh_Borkei vote for support of OnEnter and OnLeave callbacks
18:16.53NeoTronJosh_Borke: alraedy supported
18:16.56MikkTadaa
18:17.03Josh_Borkethen what's the problem exactly?
18:17.10MikkHe doesn't want to paint his own tooltip :P
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18:17.15NeoTronnope
18:17.18Josh_Borkeand i don't want to have to level to 70
18:17.24KriLL3funny, people said fubar is bloated so they made ldb, now they want to bloat ldb up to fubar levels ;)
18:17.27Josh_Borkeyou can't always get what you want
18:17.34baer_hmmm... i found my chat addon problem.
18:17.44MikkKriLL3: Aye, hence me being an ass :P
18:17.46baer_simpleCombatLog stopped me from seeing the chat.
18:17.59chiperbaer_: that's still around?
18:18.07p3limfind a solution for it, and ill update pStats with a function
18:18.08DarkAuditJosh_Borke, but if you try sometimes you just might find you get what you need
18:18.10chiperI thought that got outmodded with the new combat log
18:18.21NeoTrontooltip handling in an LDB displayer is very complex
18:18.33NeoTronbecause of the flexibility in LDB how to provide a tooltip
18:18.34ArrowmasterClassnot really
18:18.36Josh_Borkep3lim: a solution has been found, do it yourself
18:18.40Mikkp3lim: paint your own tooltip. mousewheel-enable the tooltip. done.
18:18.40KriLL3all the "simple..." addons should be relegated to the lowest pits of hell
18:18.44Mikkp3lim: it works today
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18:18.53ArrowmasterClassBroker2FuBar is only a few lines for tooltip support
18:19.00KriLL3they're all bloated hackjobs and most of them don't even work anymore
18:19.14simlanA lot of libraries I used in my addon are gone, like Dewdrop-2.0 and FuBarPlugin-2.0. Where can I get information how to migrate to the new SVN structure?
18:19.21chiperArrowmaster: thanks for fixing that right click thing, btw.  I'm assuming it was you
18:19.26ArrowmasterClassit was
18:19.29kadrahilAdirelle: sorry i went afk, i just scrolled up and saw your response
18:19.32Mikksimlan: they're all there. search for them on wowace.com and you'll see the new svn addresses
18:19.40p3limi have no use for the mousewheel support myself, so i dont really care about it :p
18:19.54p3limand I dont understand what you mean
18:19.57kadrahilAdirelle: if it's more of a taunt now that would explain why mobs that i misdirect to the tanks in BT are going to me instead of the tanks now, since i used distracting shot as one of my misdirect shots
18:20.24Industrialso i need just 1 felweed for this? http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39342
18:20.26Mikkp3lim: listen to the OnEnter / OnLeave events that ldb gives you. paint a tooltippy frame that understands mousewheel
18:20.45chiperkadrahil: hah, i forgot about that.  I better warn our hunters about that
18:20.50p3limMikk: and how would I do that?
18:21.04chiperit's fucking retarded how many people in my guild didn't even glance at the patch notes
18:21.15chiperI'm so sick of answering the same damn questions over and over
18:21.20Mikkthen dont
18:21.23Mikksay "read patchnotes"
18:21.27ArrowmasterClasschiper: i think everybody is
18:21.34Adirellekadrahil: it works more like warrior's mocking blow now
18:21.38ulicjust past in a link to the patch notes :)
18:21.39kadrahilchiper: yeah, it caused me to rage gquit in the middle of illidan the other night
18:21.49kadrahilchiper: because i got yelled at and i yelled back and they just muted me
18:22.00ArrowmasterClassi dont know how many times ive answered a question like "where can i find a lexicon of power" with "ask a guard"
18:22.01kadrahilnow that i read that i'm like well crap
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18:22.04Industrialanyone?
18:22.06Industrialso i need just 1 felweed for this? http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39342
18:22.35simlanthanks Mikk, seems to work at least for the one I tried
18:22.40Industrialand then 4 in total for http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41094 ?
18:22.48MikkIndustrial: Just read the comments. It has your answer.
18:22.53kadrahilchiper: yeah that would be a good idea :)
18:22.59ArrowmasterClassIndustrial: read the comments
18:23.04Industrialoops, sorry :<
18:23.09ArrowmasterClasssee right there
18:23.14ulicIndustrial: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=51005
18:23.22ArrowmasterClassanother stupid question answered with 'read'
18:23.23ulicMilling is like Prospecting.
18:23.24Repo10buffalo: 03Nimbal * r211 Buffalo.lua: * Fixed debuff type. Thanks to Oversun for providing it
18:23.26chiperArrowmaster: well the lexicon thing I kind of get (was that even in the patch notes?), but people asking where they buy glyphs from is pretty lame
18:23.51ArrowmasterClass'wheres the barbershop' 'ask a guard'
18:23.53MikkMhm.. it's only one of the major announced points of 3.0
18:24.04Repo10enhanced-colour-picker: 03Jncl * r43 libs/: EnhancedColourPicker: Delete libs directory
18:24.08chipereven having to explain what inscription IS shouldn't be necessary.  how can you not know these things are coming?
18:24.14IndustrialArrowmasterClass: note that i ask only after having searched myself.
18:24.26ArrowmasterClassIndustrial: i know, just picking on you
18:24.29KriLL3"what are glyphs" was asked yesterday in /1 by a 70
18:24.37Mikkas if level matters
18:24.40baer_is there a "modern" replacement for "ColaLight" and/or "ColaMachine" ?
18:24.43Mikkhalf the knobbheads still call gems "sockets"
18:24.49ArrowmasterClasswe had somebody in this channel ask how to get from org to karazhan
18:24.54Mikkbaer_: SellFish?
18:24.58ArrowmasterClassand then ask how to get to the zeplin
18:25.03Mikklmao
18:25.03chiperArrowmaster: that guy was a special kind of idiot
18:25.05baer_Mikk, thanks, will try it.
18:25.20ArrowmasterClassor was that in wowuidev, cant remember but it was one of the two channels
18:25.25chiper1) claiming he leveled his first character to 70 in 3 weeks.
18:25.30KriLL3Arrowmaster: no it was here
18:25.40chiper2) claiming he leveled a 70 without ever having taken a zeppelin
18:25.57KriLL3well it's technically possible, just not feasible =P
18:25.59MikkI'll take "Ebay" for 200 quid please, Dave
18:26.13chiper3) Thinking he was going to get T6 when all he had were greens
18:26.31simlanMikk: since you're the ultimate problem solver: what do I need to do if my SVN account is not working anymore (project leader for my SVN is wowaceSVN?!?)
18:26.34ArrowmasterClasssaid he got kicked from a BT raid for being 'too green'
18:26.38KriLL3don't you just have to show up at kara and talk to a dude to get full T6?
18:26.48chiperKriLL3: :)
18:26.55ArrowmasterClasssimlan: you need to set your svn password if you are using svn://
18:27.09Repo10enhanced-colour-picker: 03Jncl 04b1.9056.0 * r44 : Tagging as b1.9056.0.
18:27.23simlanArrowmasterClass: the client is asking for my password but it's not accepted
18:27.29Mikksimlan check your PMs :p
18:27.36Adirellesimlan: repositories are open by default, i.e. anyone with an properly setup account can commit
18:27.46chipersimlan: use the File A Report link (or whatever it's called) on your project and let them know that it belongs to you
18:27.46Industrialhmm, the glyph i wanted was cheaper then the mats on the ah :P
18:28.10ulicsimlan: have you looked at http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/?
18:28.21bien|is it possible to remove the "addon preferences" button from the minimap? uncheck the option doesnt take effect it is there after a reload
18:28.32chiperIndustrial: *nod* I'm glad I didnt spent the money for my penguin poly on day one.  it's now 1/10th the initial cost
18:28.33ArrowmasterClasswhen i get home im making it a priority to delete enhanced-colour-picker and rewrite it just because i hate jncl (and hes not even the author of that)
18:28.44ArrowmasterClassbien|: install librock-1.0
18:28.46ArrowmasterClasser
18:28.53ArrowmasterClassand librockconfig-1.0
18:29.11chiperis librockconfig not included in librock?
18:29.15Chosickknight?
18:29.20IndustrialArrowmasterClass: wheres the lexicon of power
18:29.22Industrialhides
18:29.23BaraiusSo did anyone ever figure out what AddOn was blocking chat messages after the patch?    I have heard several different culprits none of which seemed reasonable.  I did the whole "enable one by one" thing on my home machine, but I never managed to repro the behavior.  It Just Worked(tm).  
18:29.33ArrowmasterClassBaraius: every addon, disable them all
18:29.35chiperIndustrial: it's in my pants, come get it
18:29.45Industrialchases chiper
18:30.12ArrowmasterClasswhen ever anybody tells me they are getting an error i tell them 'disable everything and only enable the ones you know work'
18:30.15BaraiusSo just disabling and re-enabling fixes it?
18:30.23ArrowmasterClassBaraius: no
18:30.28Chosicartographer.lua:561 table index is nil
18:30.30ArrowmasterClassdisabling the addon doing it fixes it
18:30.33Chosianyone got that too?
18:30.37KriLL3but you know the culprit
18:30.42ArrowmasterClassChosi: cartographer2 dead
18:30.46BaraiusYeah...I went through that excecise.  Just didn't figure out from that which one did it.
18:30.59BaraiusDreading doing it on another machine.
18:30.59KriLL3Baraius: wtf?
18:31.02ChosiArrowmasterClass: lies!
18:31.08chiperChosi: I dumped cart2 in favor of mapster/gathermate/handynotes/tomtom
18:31.17chipercart's dead
18:31.27Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r4776 / (3 files in 1 directory): BigWigs: minimap icon fixes
18:31.29Chosiokay :|
18:31.30chiperand I'm not a fan of Cart3's fancyness
18:31.35Chosime neither
18:31.49chiperbut, seriously, that combination is exactly like cartographer
18:32.09DarkAuditckknight said it wasn't dead
18:32.09chiperand in some ways better
18:32.18ArrowmasterClassnever listen to ckknight
18:32.28chiperDarkAudit: ckknight has too many things to do
18:32.29ArrowmasterClassits dead
18:33.23DarkAuditso now I need a map addon that handles instance maps... mapster doesn't, and Cart3 isn't ready yet
18:33.27bien|ArrowmasterClass: that doesnt help :/
18:33.31ShefkiXinhuan: Why does Omen still come with Threat-2.0 in the embeds?
18:33.39Xinhuanit does? heh
18:33.41chiperoh yeah, that is one thing that combo doesn't do, instances
18:33.45ShefkiXinhuan: Mine still has it.
18:33.56ArrowmasterClassShefki: delete and reinstall
18:33.59KriLL3think of it as stabilizers, pointed into the air
18:34.06BaraiusKrill3:  I got my home machine working by doing a disable all then turning them on one by one (or five by five).  But at the end of that excercise I had a working system I never reproduced the problem.  (I had a mix of enabled and disabled addons so I am assuming I just didn't enable one that was the magic broken one).  Just dreading doing that again on this box so I was hoping someone Knew The Answer.
18:34.07ArrowmasterClassDarkAudit: InstanceMaps
18:34.09chiperI don't suppose omen will ever get an aoe mode again?  I really miss it
18:34.13Xinhuanpretty sure your client updater
18:34.15Xinhuandidn't delete omen
18:34.20Xinhuanit merely overwrote
18:34.21ArrowmasterClasschiper: not really possible
18:34.27ShefkiWell then that would be curse.
18:34.43Xinhuanas in you didn't delete the old omen before installing the new one
18:34.45chiper:/
18:34.57chiperno way to get threat on a target based on unit id?
18:35.09XinhuanunitID yes
18:35.11XinhuanGUID no
18:35.18chiperbah
18:35.24balstorI need a way to twist cncfanatics arm to fix flexbar this weekend
18:35.41chiperwish I had known that, I would have gotten in line at blizzcon to bring it up
18:36.02bien|ArrowmasterClass: after a reload the button is still there and moving the button doesnt have any effect
18:36.06wallenDoes anyone know how to display tooltips over party unitframes even when those are in a different location than yours?
18:36.06baer_is there a way to summon a mount via macro?
18:36.07Xinhuanthey wouldn't have allowed it
18:36.12Xinhuancos of network bandwidth
18:36.14Repo10action-combat: 03simlan * r66 : Fixed some externals
18:36.15KriLL3chiper: gl, half the questions were asked by 12 year old palainds
18:36.23xemacsis it possible that bugsack isnt working atm?
18:36.28ArrowmasterClassbien|: i killed the button but you need to install the updated library
18:36.36wallenxemacs: are you using fubar?
18:36.37Repo10buffalo: 03Nimbal 04v1.01 * r212 :
18:36.39RepoTagging as v1.01. Since there was no version naming scheme in place, I'll start one now (svn revisions confuse some people)
18:36.39Baraiusbaer_:  I think it as simple as replacing /use with /cast
18:36.42chiperKriLL3: ??  I only saw one 12 year old ask a question at all the panels I attended, and it was about a priest
18:36.52baer_baraius ok, thanks
18:37.08chiperthere were some annoying questions asked tho, asking for things there's already great addons for
18:37.19Xinhuan<PROTECTED>
18:37.22Xinhuanthey are aliases for each other
18:37.25KriLL3or stuff blizz has already said
18:37.29bien|ArrowmasterClass: i took the both releases of the libs...
18:37.37ArrowmasterClassget teh beta
18:37.38bien|and the config
18:37.40KriLL3Xinhuan: /cast is better, it's longer thus more important
18:37.58chiperyeah.  like that hunter aspect GCD thing.  I'm pretty sure I had already heard they were removing aspects from the GCD
18:38.18Chosichiper?
18:39.16Ironhandhaving a small issue with Grid - whenever an icon is displayed in the center of a player frame, the entire frame is set to a single colour, completely covering all indicators... is there a known fix for this?
18:40.37wallenIronhand: did you try shrinking the dimensions of the icons?
18:40.46xemacs(20:34:12) (wallen) xemacs: are you using fubar? <- yea
18:40.47xemacs3.0
18:41.11wallenxemacs: I think the latest revisions of Bugsack support LDB only
18:41.21wallenthus you won't get an icon anymore in fubar
18:41.26xemacsldb?
18:41.33ArrowmasterClassxemacs: get Broker2FuBar
18:41.40xemacsokay
18:41.43xemacsgonna try that
18:42.40bien|ArrowmasterClass: its still there and theres no way to remove it... oO
18:42.51balstorokay svn issue , I updated my externals to point to the new locations for the libraries, tag a release and the release fails to find the new paths for the libraries,
18:42.54balstorideas???
18:43.35ArrowmasterClassbalstor: because the locations are incorrect?
18:43.59balstorits like it didn't pick up my new externals
18:44.22ArrowmasterClassare you using svn:externals?
18:44.34ArrowmasterClassbecause the packager doesnt use those
18:44.35balstoryhea
18:44.47balstorwhat does it want now?
18:45.01ArrowmasterClasshttp://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/pkgmeta-file/
18:45.11Kuja^sylvanaar: is it a known issue that font settings in prat-3.0 have no effect?
18:45.19ArrowmasterClassbien|: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/librockconfig-1-0/download/298861.aspx
18:45.23Ironhandwallen: I tried that but no help, however, I just tried changing the icon border size from 0 to 1 and the problem disappeared... except that I now have a border on my icons that I don't want
18:46.00bien|ArrowmasterClass: i downloaded exactly this one
18:46.34ArrowmasterClassbien|: notice the changelog, i fixed it
18:47.43wallenIronhand: I am not sure about what you could do, I disabled the icons in grid and I've setup border indicators for the most common debuffs since I don't play a dispell class
18:48.03balstorthanks arrowmasterclass
18:48.19Ironhandwallen: I'm guessing it's a Grid bug, so I'll try to report it
18:48.26xemacsArrowmaster thanks that worked
18:48.26xemacs:)
18:49.24bien|ArrowmasterClass: i downloaded it again...still the same, it remains at the minimap... :(
18:49.38ArrowmasterClasswell it shouldnt
18:49.47ArrowmasterClassbecause its gone for me
18:49.49Ironhandwhile on the subject of grid & debuffs... is there a way (some sort of module perhaps) to automatically display typeless debuffs, rather than having to add them manually if I want them displayed?
18:49.56bien|so, tell me what i have to do...
18:50.35Ironhandsomething like "Debuff type: None" in the Grid->Status->Auras menu
18:50.39bien|i unchecked the point "show minimap icon" and after a reload it is there again
18:51.37PrimerI wish tradeskill would get updated. Unless there's a better, updated addon
18:51.39Primeranyone?
18:53.02ArrowmasterClassbien|: did you enable them in the addon panel at the character screen?
18:53.50bien|they are active...yes
18:54.29Brunerswho is updating CowTip at the moment?
18:54.41bien|Bruners: me
18:54.48bien|oh
18:54.49bien|no
18:54.55bien|i read using
18:55.00bien|not updating^^
18:55.59balstorokay why is "    Libs/AceAddon-2.0 svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/ace2/mainline/trunk/AceAddon-2.0"  invalid in .pkgmeta
18:56.54StanzillaLibs/AceAddon-2.0: svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/ace2/mainline/trunk/AceAddon-2.0
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18:57.12balstorooo the colon palm + face
18:57.20Aens|SuperiorityCan someone help me track down the source of this error?  Classtimer.  ClassTimer-2.0\ClassTimer.lua:365: attempt to compare number with string
18:57.33Aens|Superiorityand then it mentions ace 3 bucket and acetimer
18:57.36ArrowmasterClassAens|Superiority: its classtimer! disable it!
18:57.45Aens|Superiorityit was working yesterday error free.
18:57.49ramozso, there's been alot of talk about LDB lately, but which of them are the best fubar replacement?
18:57.52Aens|Superioritythen i updated on curse.
18:58.35StanzillaAens|Superiority: spells that got removed in 3.0 cause that error imo
18:58.46Stanzillawhat's your class?
18:58.58Aens|Superioritydruid
18:59.07Aens|Superioritybut it throws the error on rejuv or lifebloom
18:59.14Repo10ld50_abar: 03shaten * r51 .pkgmeta: LD50_abar:
18:59.14Repo- new external location
18:59.15Hjalteramoz: If you're looking for a bar, then you should use Buttonbin. If you can live with blocks, that you can link together, then StatBlockCore and Fortress will do. There's also addons such as Carousel but they're not really fubar alternatives.
18:59.43ramoztried statblock, but didnt like it - thanks tho - will try buttonbin and fortress :)
18:59.58StanzillaAens|Superiority: open druid.lua and check the spellIDs on wowhead
19:00.06Stanzillaif you find one that doesnt exist anymore, comment it out
19:00.30Aens|SuperiorityArrowmaster: what alternatives are there to classtimer? I need one that is aware of hot/dot durations and who casted them
19:00.44Repo10ld50_abar: 03shaten 043.1 * r52 : Tagging as 3.1.
19:00.50vrakis cartographer3 useable atm (with the old set of extra modules) ?
19:00.58Aens|Superiorityi used chronometer before i switched to classtimers but chronometer had the annoying habit of removing bars when someone else's lifebloom expired.
19:01.37Aens|Superiorityand when classtimer was working last night, it was aware of my glyph that increased my moonfire duration by 3 seconds every cast.
19:01.38Stanzillajust to what I said and check if it get's better :p
19:03.27Aens|Superiorityoh, i know it worked yesterday. I was using the wowinterface version and now the one on curse!  Thanks for the option stan but i'm bad like that.
19:03.51Aens|Superioritypower of google over the power of notepad
19:04.06Chosiwtf i keep getting out of memory errors
19:04.17simlanI experience
19:04.39simlansince the wow update PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED is not called anymore, it this is known issue?
19:04.52chiperhavent had any issues with chinchilla
19:04.56chiperoops, ww
19:05.02Repo10grid-pastamancer: 03Pastamancer * r1019 GridFrame.lua: Grid: untested but possible fix to icon border size.
19:05.08pastamancer^^ test prz
19:05.20ChosiProgram:D:\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe
19:05.20ChosiFile:.\src\lmemPool.cpp
19:05.20ChosiLine:311
19:05.20ChosiRequested 3200 bytes of memory
19:05.24Chosiwhoops
19:05.25Chosishit.
19:05.58Chosianyways. must be some addon that causes this
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19:06.53Mikksimlan: i think it's reported as a UNIT_ thing now?
19:07.19simlanHm ok, I'll take a deeper look
19:07.51Parnicis there any way to specify that i want a specific revision of a library to be included with my addon when the packager goes to work?
19:07.57Parniclibrangecheck is broken in its mainline :(
19:08.04Chosiokay it's fubar 3.0's fault
19:08.08Chosidisabled and works.
19:11.06Repo10routes: 03Xinhuan * r186 / (4 files in 1 directory):
19:11.06RepoRemove tsvn:logtemplate. Update TOC and version. Remove embeds.xml/locales.xml and move them into the TOC.
19:12.03bien|ArrowmasterClass: should i extract the both libs into another folder like the ace2 one? Oo
19:13.23ArrowmasterClassno
19:14.09bien|then i have no clue why it doesnt work :(
19:14.21PrimerDoes anyone know of an addon like TradeSkill but that's updated? Old TradeSkill doesn't work
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19:14.44KriLL3ADTW
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19:15.02Primermore verbose, please?
19:15.04KriLL3or is it ATSW ?
19:15.12KriLL3advanced trade skill window
19:15.18Primerneither yields a search result
19:15.31ChosiADTW
19:15.40Chosiadvanced trade skill window as KriLL3 said
19:15.46Primerfound it
19:17.10kenlyricskillet
19:18.01KriLL3wtf, took so long to load that I'm back to where I started on the boat...
19:19.23Zeksiegggr. what's a map mod that works atm. Cartographer just not playing my game..
19:19.38[dRaCo]mapster
19:19.42BaraiusYeah
19:19.50Zeksiewill look
19:22.18NeoTronZeksie: did you see my comment on classOrder in xperl?
19:22.18Pneumatusid ditch cartographer if there was a replacement for guild positions that the masses would use :s
19:22.32Zeksieno? looking
19:22.54NeoTronXPerl/XPerl_Init.lua:      for j,class in ipairs(classOrder) do
19:22.55Chosiah come on...pitbull worked now it's throwing errors...
19:23.02NeoTronclassOrder is not defined anywhere
19:23.05NeoTronso ipairs(nil)
19:23.24Zeksiety
19:24.18DhragaAnyone else that have had pitbull_aura errors with 3.2.7 ?
19:25.30NeoTronZeksie: also, I'm not sure what causes this but it seems if I am killing a mob and die (likely reason), when I come back to said mob its health still show as partially dead
19:25.36Chosipitbull_powerbar
19:25.39Chosifuck this.
19:25.41Chosiseriously :\
19:26.24ZeksieNeoTron: if you went out of range to it, then it can't possibly be anything with x-perl. i don't cache health... unless LibQuickHealth is doing that instead? by guid perhaps,.
19:26.27Repo10arl: 03Ackis 06wotlk-branch * r935 / (2 files in 2 directories): Remove test.lua and add Unknown Zone
19:26.30DhragaI'm having this problem -> http://ace.pastey.net/98584 (not sure if it's librockTimer or pitbullaura)
19:26.37NeoTronZeksie: I died, ran back..
19:26.50NeoTronseen this on a guard in orgrimmar as well as drakes in BWL...
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19:27.52NeoTronLQH being the issue is certainly possible
19:28.34NeoTronit definitely caches it
19:29.35ArrowmasterClassLQH?
19:29.44ArrowmasterClassoh
19:29.48ArrowmasterClassnvm
19:30.14Repo10ld50_ap: 03shaten * r35 .pkgmeta: LD50_ap:
19:30.15Repo- Fixed externals
19:30.57NeoTronman I don't think I want to use LQH. is it optional in XPerl?
19:31.00Repo10ld50_armor: 03shaten * r29 .pkgmeta: LD50_armor:
19:31.01Repo- Fixed Externals
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19:32.47NeoTronthere's nothing ever resetting the health, clearing the caches etc
19:33.12Pneumatusguys, im looking for an addon that will give me movable icons or something when i've got certain specific buffs active... does such a thing exist without involving every one of my buffs?
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19:39.51Repo10cutup: 03tsigo * r75 modules/Glutton.lua:
19:39.52RepoCutup/Glutton: Attempted fix for talent scanning on initial login.
19:40.23Repo10cutup: 03tsigo * r76 modules/Glutton.lua: Cutup/Glutton: Uh, yeah. Delete Print calls.
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19:42.12sbvhaarr: Interface\FrameXML\UIPanelTemplates.lua:230: attempt to index local 'self' (a number value):oRA2-2.0.$Revision: 624 $\Core.lua:706: in function <Interface\AddOns\oRA2\Core.lua:705>
19:42.15sbanother one
19:42.40vhaarrsb: "another one", can you please post both of them in a privmsg to me
19:42.45sbokay :)
19:42.48sbi can post all of them :p
19:42.52sbin some pastey
19:42.55sbcomplete
19:43.00Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4777 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fix the minimap option.
19:43.06sztanpetvhaarr ping
19:43.19NeoTronZeksie: aha might be that I used LQH-1.0 while LQH-2.0 seems to be a bit better..
19:43.20vhaarrsztanpet: pong
19:43.23simlanstupid question - how to get the player name in wow lua?
19:43.27vhaarrsb: go ahead
19:43.45vhaarrsimlan: UnitName"player"
19:43.59sztanpetcould i ask you to tag closetgnome r572 as beta please? :D
19:44.05vhaarrsztanpet: not yet
19:44.06simlanthanks vhaarr
19:44.14sztanpetokay
19:44.19Chosipitbull worked all the time, and for some reason it starts bugging
19:44.24Chosiwith powerbar
19:44.25Chosi:S
19:45.36bahadurHello people, if it is not considered rude to ask after having searched and came up empty handed, I need some little help with Prat:PopupMessage, anyone with some lua text matching should be able to help I guess
19:46.01Chosiwtb new unitframes
19:46.41odtsomething like valuation that works with 3.0?
19:47.00bahadur<PROTECTED>
19:47.03chiperchosi: install LibRock
19:47.10chiperI had that problem yesterday too
19:47.21Chosiah
19:47.28sztanpethttp://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4.1
19:47.29Chosiso it's still missing inside pitbull?
19:47.34chiperit's actually not pitbull throwing the fit, it trickles down to the librock build that's bundled with pitbull
19:47.43chiperbecause the packager isnt updating when dependancies get fixed
19:48.11bahadurthanks sztanpet, Ill see if I can find exactmatch, thanks
19:50.02Chosialso had the problem that some fucking addon is trying to take more memory than it may?
19:50.17chiperI dont think that's possible any more
19:50.33Chosifor some reason my wow keeps crashing with some out of memory error
19:51.10Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4778 / (2 files in 1 directory): Make LibDBIcon-1.0 optional.
19:51.13Chosidisabled fubar 3.0
19:51.15Chosiit's gone
19:51.17Chosiweird shit
19:51.41chiperif wow is crashing, it's a wow bug
19:51.52chiperan addon shouldnt ever be able to crash the enviroment
19:52.00NeoTronit might be that the lua does some infinite memory allocating loop
19:52.02chiperat least, in theory
19:52.14NeoTronI agree with the sentiment that an addon shouldn't be able to make WoW die but they clearly can
19:52.33Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar 04Beta 7 * r52 : Tagging as Beta 7.
19:52.41NeoTronwonder if a classic fork bomb would work in lua or if you run out of stack space
19:53.32durcynsb: can't do milling, it's protected
19:53.46sbyup :(
19:53.49sbbut inscription works :)
19:54.14durcynthough i suppose it might be worth setting up secure templates within ldb eventually, i cba at the moment
19:54.57NeoTronmilling = http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/expeller.aspx
19:55.15NeoTronnot fully automated but certainly rather useful
19:55.22NeoTronmuch like the addon it was based on
19:55.37durcynoh, locksmith/crowbar style i presume?
19:55.47Repo10banana-dkp: 03Rabbit * r116 / (4 files in 1 directory): Add LibDBIcon-1.0 support.
19:55.49NeoTronnot sure what those are
19:55.53NeoTronbut it creates a /macro
19:56.16NeoTronand allows you to click the button or a key binding to use it to prospect/mill with a single button
19:56.18simlanWhat API documentation is generally used to develop addons?
19:56.32chiperNeoTron: oh nice
19:56.35chipermakes a note
19:56.40simlanWell, I use wowwiki.com, but it contains a lot of outdated information
19:57.07chipersimlan: I'd recommend the WoW Programming book, but I think it's out of date too
19:57.09NeoTronI haven't yet gotten to a point where I need to start milling since my DK will be my inscriptionist
19:57.22chiperNeoTron: me too
19:57.33uliclikewise, hurry up Nov. 13th.
19:57.52simlanchiper: where is that book?
19:58.04chiperit used to be linked in the topic...
19:58.37chiperhttp://www.amazon.com/World-Warcraft-Programming-Reference-Creating/dp/0470229810/
19:59.00theoddone33nice
19:59.21chiperyou'll recognise quite a few of the names mentioned in the editorial review
19:59.33simlanah a paper book. I'm actually not going to buy anything for development :)
19:59.53chipereww, there's a WotLK strategy guide already?
20:00.01theoddone33I got thanked in a book once
20:00.03Baraiusheh
20:01.06balstor~last cncfanatics
20:01.15balstor~seen cncfanatics
20:01.16purlcncfanatics <n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 1h 59m 8s ago, saying: 'i used to have flexbar do it but well, 3.0 wrecked it'.
20:02.02Repo10violation: 03Rabbit * r483 / (5 files in 2 directories): Add LibDBIcon-1.0 support.
20:02.52Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4779 Core.lua:
20:02.53RepoHide the option when the library is not present, don't disable it.
20:02.59mitchnull2008/10/17 22:01:09-319-x1]: ButtonBin-1.0\ButtonBin.lua:802: attempt to index global 'AceGUIWidgetLSMlists' (a nil value)
20:03.17mitchnullwhere should that AceGUIWidgetLSMlists be defined?
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20:04.15NeoTronmitchnull:  in AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets
20:04.37NeoTronmanually disembedded or is it packaged incorrectly
20:05.17simlanCan anybody give me a hint which function to use now since GetPlayerBuffName and -Texture is gone?
20:05.23mitchnulldisembed (my fault :)
20:05.37balstorUnitAura or UnitBuff
20:06.09sbfucking 1% KJ wipe :o
20:06.12balstorsee 1.0 doesn't necessarly ever end
20:06.20balstoropps wrokng window :P
20:06.25NivFreakpeople wipe on KJ now?
20:06.26NivFreak:)
20:06.29sbyes :p
20:06.37NivFreakforgot to put gear on?
20:06.55Repo10ora2: 03Rabbit * r627 Core.lua: Hopefully fix the window scrolling. Drycoded.
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20:09.41Aens|SuperiorityNivFreak: we can almost kill him without seeing a single darkness before the last phase >.>
20:10.03Chosiok my memory issue is definitely a fubar 3 problem
20:10.05Chosifubar 2 works
20:10.12Aens|Superiorityand we couldn't kill KJ before 3.0. Best we got was 20%.  So depressing.
20:10.12Chosi3 crashes my wow
20:10.15NivFreakyea, we're going to head to sunwell for free gears
20:10.30[Liquidor]~seen kebian
20:10.32purli haven't seen 'kebian', [Liquidor]
20:10.41chiperwe're gonna wrap up hyjal tonight for the first time, then move on to bt
20:11.03NeoTronmitchnull: ok cool ;-) Although I could probably make it not fail in that case maybe
20:11.42chiperwe two-shot Kaz'Rogal last night having never seen him before.  was a lot of fun
20:11.45balstor~seen grayhoof
20:11.46purlbalstor: i haven't seen 'grayhoof'
20:11.55balstor~slap purl
20:11.56purlACTION slaps purl, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
20:12.01chiperfirst attempt wiped at 2.3%, we were very annoyed
20:12.36NivFreakgod, BT is such a joke now
20:12.48NivFreakwe haven't done hyjal in a few months, but we're doing it sunday for fun
20:13.06chiperthe trash is now harder than the bosses
20:13.08NivFreakshould be a joke, but I bet we still have some archimonde failure
20:13.16NivFreakchiper: that was always the case
20:13.49NivFreakazgalor trash is the hardest part of hyjal, and it's not really hard :P
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20:14.18chiperthe frost wyrms are fun
20:14.32chiperseeing that big thing drop out of the sky...
20:15.06DhragaDoes anyone know why an addon on Curse get's listed as updated today, but only the old versions are available for download... Example = http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/grid-status-raid-debuff.aspx
20:15.12ZealotOnAStickIs there anything for a Fubar or LDB plugin that provides easy access to the new in-game calendar?  (because my minimap mod doesn't have that monster button there)
20:15.15mitchnullNeo: nah, it's OK. it was manually disembedded, I just didn't want to hunt ;)
20:15.27chiperDhraga: it's updating the time based on the betas on wowace
20:15.38PrimerZealotOnAStick: mine doesn't either
20:15.44PrimerI hope there is one
20:15.45chiperZealotOnAStick: /calendar?
20:15.46mitchnullis there any way to select a tab (group) in AceConfigGUI before opening the config frame?
20:16.09ZealotOnAStickchiper easier than typing all that.  A click or right-click to pop up sort of functionality I was hoping for.
20:16.16ZealotOnAStickYou know, for teh lazy.
20:16.24chipermake a macro :P
20:16.27LoonacyMake a macro?
20:16.35balstorhmm new sct and sctd over at wowinterface.....
20:16.53mitchnullisnt's MSBT better?
20:17.00fewynare there replacements for ct_ra frames?
20:17.02chipermitchnull: IMO, yes
20:17.03NivFreakI <3 MSBT
20:17.12LoonacyIsn't Parrot better?
20:17.15NivFreakno
20:17.16NivFreak:)
20:17.18chiperfewyn: like... pitbul?
20:17.19mitchnullparrot is a CPU hog
20:17.33fewynsomething that looks similar chiper and i can let a nub use
20:17.34mitchnullpitbull is a CPU _and_ memory hog :)
20:17.49chiperfewyn: oRA2 if they just want tank frames
20:17.56chiperotherwise I'd say just use the ingame frames
20:18.05chiperdrag from the raid window
20:18.13balstoryhea i like ora2 a lot
20:18.31NivFreakthe one redeeming quality of pitbull, is it almost always is working after a patch :)
20:18.32mitchnullso, anyone knows how to pre-select a tab in an AceConfigGUI?
20:18.34balstorora2 + sraidframes == ctraid (pretty much)
20:18.38chiperalso, x-perl is more nub friendly
20:18.51chiperNivFreak: indeed
20:19.00NivFreakit's really the only reason I still use it
20:19.08balstoryhea but x-perl had a history of crashing people so i just avoided it for a long time
20:19.12chiperI use it because it roxors
20:19.22Zeksiecrashing ppl??
20:19.33balstorwell over a year ago
20:19.50NivFreakyea, I dumped x-perl because of that issue
20:19.51Zeksieyou mean at the same time that ALL unitframes had the same problem
20:19.52[dRaCo]xperl used to be really hard on memory and stuff
20:19.55NivFreakit would cause random DC's
20:20.02Repo10bugsack: 03Rabbit * r160 / (6 files in 2 directories): Add LibDBIcon-1.0 support.
20:20.02balstorif you were in a raid and had to log out and in you could never log back in till you were kicked from the raid
20:20.10*** join/#wowace TNSe (n=evil@cm-84.212.153.14.getinternet.no)
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20:20.13NivFreakZeksie: not all :)
20:20.16Zeksiebalstor: that wasn't only x-perl. it was nearly all
20:20.22NivFreakwell, that one patch sure
20:20.24Zeksieand it was somewhat random till we all figured out why
20:20.26balstorit was so bad in naxx we banned it's use ( and wireless modems)
20:20.26BaraiusPit Bull did it too
20:20.28NivFreakbut it was doing it for more than that one patch :P
20:20.35Zeksiewasn't really x-perl as such
20:20.58Zeksietook ppl a while (Xinhuan actually) to figure out exact cause
20:21.03Zeksieonce that was done, we all fixed stuff
20:21.12[dRaCo]so what are the new UFs of the day?
20:21.15BaraiusZeksie: Would you consider doing an "estimated heal" feature similar to Pit Bull?
20:21.19balstorthese days the only addon i know that crashes people is that bannabar ( needs to be marked do not use)
20:21.19fewynbalstor: thanks that will work great
20:21.21Xinhuanwhat ?
20:21.28Xinhuanwhat did i fix
20:21.31ZeksieBaraius: has had tahat since 3 or 4 weeks ago
20:21.38BaraiusWhoa!
20:21.40Zeksiethe UNIT_NAME_UPDATE problem in raid headers
20:21.41BaraiusReally.
20:21.48BaraiusSweeeeeet.
20:21.52Xinhuanoh that one
20:21.52DhragaAnyone got a good replacement for Valuation (Vendor prices on items in tooltip) ?
20:21.58Baraius*bounce* *bounce* *bounce* /hug
20:21.58Xinhuanyeah, i spent 2 days
20:22.01Xinhuanon that one
20:22.02Zeksieyou just have to manually install LibHealComma nd it'll pick it up
20:22.08Repo10action-combat: 03simlan * r67 / (5 files in 1 directory): ActionCombat back working and WoW 30000 compatible
20:22.39Baraius(Gonna pop up WoW and try that :-))
20:22.48FroMasterDhraga: I use Informant from Auctioneer. I don't load any of the other auctioneer stuff, just Informant and stubby (to add the tooltip)
20:23.13Zeksiealthough LHC is a bit off with healing estimates atm cos of the spellpower change
20:23.31LoonacyStupid spellpower change. :(
20:23.34DhragaFroMaster: Thanks I'll try that, is it easy on memory hogging ?
20:23.53Baraiuskk
20:24.01BaraiusI used xperl on my laptop and really liked it.
20:24.08ZeksieBaraius: it also now has a bubble estimate too, if you PWShield someoen, it'll show a bar with what htey have left of it
20:24.11FroMasterIts not bad. I don't usually see it in the top 10 on my machine
20:24.19BaraiusAwesome.
20:24.20Zeksieand hot bars just like it etc.
20:24.33DhragaThanks
20:24.35Zeksiepom tracker.
20:24.37Zeksiebla bla
20:24.41balstor~senn Murazorz
20:24.45balstor~seen Murazorz
20:24.47purlbalstor: i haven't seen 'murazorz'
20:25.01Pkekyo|will jumping into the canals help me elude the stormwind guards?
20:25.34genetik-Dhraga: search for ItemPriceTooltip on curse.. that's what i've always used.  simple addon that does just that
20:26.07chiperPkekyo|: sounds logical, try it
20:26.09Dhragagenetik: Thanks, I'll try that one also
20:26.18chiperit's not like there's a lot of guards to elude
20:26.33chiperonce you get paste the trade district you're pretty clear
20:26.37chiper*past
20:27.15balstorcolalight should be marked abondaned
20:27.57DhragaBtw is auctioneer still a memory hog or has it improved ?
20:28.09NeoTronit uses memory because it stores a lot of data
20:28.11Pkekyo|I FUCKING HATE DOORS IN ALLIANCE CITIES
20:28.18NeoTronpretty unavoidable I'd say
20:28.24ZealotOnAStickwhen it's actually doing something, yes, auctioneer chews a massive amount of memory.
20:28.24chiperPkekyo|: tauren?
20:28.28NeoTronhowever I can't give you exact numbers since I haven't checked
20:28.35MoonWitchPkekyo|: draenei?
20:28.43NeoTronPkekyo|: fishing?
20:28.43Pkekyo|tauren
20:28.45chiperPkekyo|: ha ha, sucks to be you.
20:28.52Dhraga:)
20:28.53Pkekyo|trying to get into the stockades
20:28.56LoonacyNoggenfogger.
20:28.57ZealotOnAStickif you however run it LoD ad AH, or just use informant/enchantrix other times, etc., it's not too bad.
20:28.58chipermakes his gnome dance
20:28.59NeoTronme and a troll sat fishing in Ironforge for a while
20:29.09NeoTronhe caught the fish first but it didn't take long for me to catch mine
20:29.17NeoTronthen I went and fished in Orgrimmar
20:29.26Pkekyo|it's my 19th death since I got inside the walls of stormwind
20:29.26NeoTronfortunately I caught that fish faster and only died twice
20:29.37Pkekyo|got stuck in the fucking stockades door :<
20:29.50balstorapparently colalight replacement for item prices is http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7035   haven't tried it yet though
20:29.53MoonWitchlol
20:30.02NeoTronI was a bit lucky. when I entered the org backdoor a mage entered right before me so he pulled aggro off all the guards :P
20:30.03Pkekyo|damn kodo
20:30.16MoonWitchbalstor: it's good
20:30.17NivFreakdirty ally
20:30.27Pkekyo|why would you go to org for fishing?
20:30.42NivFreakthe fisherman diplomat
20:30.45NivFreakachievement
20:30.46balstorif you looking for just a fish in org, fish under the bridge that leads into org
20:31.02NeoTron<PROTECTED>
20:31.21balstorin stormwinf there is apparently a place out near the coast marked as stormwind where you can fish
20:31.24NeoTronI sat in the area near the first aid trainer
20:31.29NeoTronbehind a palm tree or whatever
20:31.42balstorthough there is a stockade achievement also
20:31.44NeoTronmost people getting there (hearth?) just mounted up and rode away
20:32.05ArrowmasterNeoTron: in the hut?
20:32.11NeoTronbalstor: the more interestin one is http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=1837
20:32.14Arrowmasterthats where the portal goes to
20:32.22BaraiusZeksie:  Woot!  Thank you (Three weeks ago)!
20:32.25NeoTronArrowmaster: yeah. I was in the general area but not in the hut for obvious reasons
20:32.30Zeksie:)
20:32.43Pkekyo|err...why was there a harbor quarter added to SW?
20:32.45NeoTronthose l75 guards have some massive aggro ratio
20:32.47balstoryhea in org sit in the water fall in ironforge stay up late
20:32.51BaraiusSomething to look forward too when I get on.
20:32.55NeoTronPkekyo|: so you can get frmo SW to northrend and auberdine?
20:33.11Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r199 XPerl_Init.lua: XPerl: Minor fix for missing buffs tooltip.
20:33.12Daemonaok, anyone good here with installation instructions for usb hardware?
20:33.15NeoTronthe troll that was fishing with me in IF only got attacked twice
20:33.19NeoTronit's a rather hidden area
20:33.27NeoTronmost people woudln't notice a lone hordie sitting there
20:33.35Arrowmasterthe cavern?
20:33.35Daemonaif got some instructions to install a usb cardreader on win98, but i cant get a clue...
20:33.35charonDaemona: plug in?
20:33.42genetik-hell, a lot of people don't even remember that area of IF exists
20:33.47Arrowmastertheres no hiding spots in there though
20:33.54PrimerNeoTron: is that an achievement? Fish in an opposing faction's major city?
20:33.55charonah well, "replace win98 with $better_os, plug in"
20:34.14Daemona"when pluging USB device ,the sytem clues on looking up the driver,the folder is which the driver procedure is in. support"
20:34.18ArrowmasterNeoTron: did he atleast try to hide by lying down?
20:34.24Daemonathat is the whole readme.txt
20:34.35PrimerEngrish
20:35.00NeoTronPrimer: I linked them above
20:35.06Pkekyo|something has to be done about the horde graveyard situation in Elwynn Forest
20:35.16Pkekyo|getting ported across the entire fucking zone is rifuckingdiculous
20:35.20NeoTronone to fish in stormwind/org, one to fish a rare fish in IF, one to fish a rare fish in Org
20:35.22PrimerNeoTron: cool
20:35.23Arrowmasterwhere is the alliance graveyard for org?
20:35.24NeoTronso 3 different ones
20:35.24Daemonawell nothing bad... but if i plug it in, the install hardware dialog pops up ... and well if i point it to the extracted files it claims nothing to install in there ^^
20:35.27PrimerI'm doing that one :)
20:35.29NeoTronArrowmaster: razor hill
20:35.34NeoTronsucks rather badly
20:35.43DaemonaPkekyo| why are you dying there? ;)
20:35.45Arrowmasterso same situation as horde in stormwind?
20:35.55NeoTronyep
20:36.07Arrowmasteri know ironforge fucking sucks for horde too
20:36.17NeoTronthey stopped the use of the closest graveyards to avoid zerging I gather
20:36.22Arrowmasteryeah
20:36.39Daemonayeah its somewhere south of the city on the way from startzone to IF
20:36.43NeoTrongood news is my fishing is now at 365
20:36.49NivFreakso they bumped all the city leaders to 80 now right?
20:36.57DaemonaNivFreak 83
20:37.00NivFreakwell yea
20:37.04Daemonaguards to 75
20:37.09NivFreakoh shit
20:37.10NivFreakhaha
20:37.13NeoTronare they actually level 83?
20:37.16Arrowmasteralthough its weird since in elwynn forest the town is so close to stormwind that we get sent to a gy across the zone, where as in IF or Org the other faction just gets sent to the town outside
20:37.17Daemonawe did Tyrande and Velen yesterday with 25-30 ppl
20:37.17NeoTronor Skull?
20:37.22Daemonajust bring lots of hunters
20:37.22balstorkilled the dranei one last night
20:37.28NivFreakNeoTron: they seem to be able to set skulls to a min level now
20:37.32Dhragaso Anyone got a real good tooltip addon they can recommend (I have been using TinyTip for ages)
20:37.34Repo10alarlib: 03alar * r125 AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua: AlarLib
20:37.35RepoUpdate poiiicons management to 16x16
20:37.38DaemonaNeoTron skull, but i did like 14-120 glancing
20:37.39Daemona;)
20:37.42NeoTronyou can't possibly kill them if they were level 83?
20:37.53Arrowmasterthe 'heroic' training dummy is deffently 83
20:37.54NivFreakNeoTron: try the heroic training dummies out
20:37.56NivFreakyea
20:38.03NeoTronI couldn't hit them with any spells at all on a warlock
20:38.05Primerman, some of these accomplishments are insane
20:38.06NivFreakyea
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20:38.10NeoTronmaybe if you were all hunters :P
20:38.12ArrowmasterDhraga: tinytip
20:38.18DaemonaNeoTron thats why you bring HEAPS of hunters
20:38.29NivFreakwell, if they are 83
20:38.29balstor5 million hitpoints, just took time, leave casters on alliance
20:38.30Arrowmasterwhy hunters?
20:38.32NivFreakthey can still crush :)
20:38.32Daemonacause those can sustain 1k dps even though they are lvl 83
20:38.37DhragaArrowmaster: hehe, so it's updated... hmm must have missed it
20:38.44NeoTronArrowmaster: because they tend to be able to hit high level mobs easier
20:38.55Arrowmasteroh yeah, no dodge or parry
20:38.59Daemonai managed ~600 on my rogue with precision and 380 hit rating
20:39.00NeoTronArrowmaster: hunter is the only class where I could reasonbly easily kill mobs 7+ levels above me
20:39.04Arrowmasterand their miss rate is lower than casters
20:39.05Daemonaand ~10% expertise
20:39.35Daemonavelen is easy, cause he only casts some holy smite holy wrath type of spell
20:39.42Daemonayou tank him with 2 hunters and are fine
20:39.43Daemona;)
20:39.43NeoTronheck back in duskwood I killed err what's his name the level 35 insane eltie in the graveyard
20:39.46balstorhunters are physical dmage so no ressit also on the dreni ranged tank worked better
20:39.46NeoTronat level 28
20:39.57PrimerOk, so I read in the patch notes that people are supposed to be able to get deleted tabards, pets, and mounts
20:40.03Primerfor accomplishments
20:40.08balstortabard vendor
20:40.11PrimerWhere does one get mounts?
20:40.12Daemonaonly those which you cant re-access
20:40.17Daemonalike the worg puppet
20:40.19chiperoh that reminds me.  did hunter DPS get massively buffed, or is recount broken?  last night in Hyjal one of our hunters was on top with 3000 dps.  he's not even in T5
20:40.27balstorstable master(pets) and blacksmith (keys)
20:40.31NeoTronchiper: it's massively buffed
20:40.33Primerok, thanks
20:40.33Daemonachiper no, working as inteded
20:40.34ArrowmasterNeoTron: theres a group of 4 alliance outriders in the barrens that are lvl 24-25 that i killed with like a lvl 12 hunter
20:40.36chiperthat's just insane
20:40.41Daemonasame with ret paladin dps
20:40.48Daemonaworking as intended too ..........
20:40.48DarkAuditBlizzard mailed me back all the pets and mounts I had trained on Tuesday
20:40.50NeoTronsome of the classes can go over 4000 dps in sunwell
20:40.54balstoryou can't get deleted pets
20:40.59balstorerr mounts
20:41.09ArrowmasterNeoTron: and some classes can barely break 2k
20:41.15NeoTronArrowmaster: that's pretty impressive. I know of the mobs, I've got a few horde chars
20:41.19DarkAuditso I ended up with extra copies I couldn't use or sell
20:41.25PrimerI got 2 new AQ40 mounts last night
20:41.32ArrowmasterNeoTron: i cheated and got them all below 50% then ran them into a town
20:41.33NivFreakDarkAudit: yea, I have a fuck ton of them in my mailbox
20:41.36Primerit was funny, 40 70s wiping in AQ40
20:41.36NivFreaklike 4 mails full
20:41.36Daemonayou only need the red one !
20:41.42Primeron those twin bosses
20:41.46Primerbecause people just zerged
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20:42.02NivFreakPrimer: oh god, some pug grabbed me to tank twin emps last night
20:42.04NivFreaktotal failure
20:42.14NivFreakno one stopped DPS
20:42.16NeoTronwe 15 manned BWL or so. did razorgore and vael with 9 people
20:42.18chiperprimer: yeah, twin emps tends to school people in the need for strategy
20:42.24NeoTronwas a bit insane until we got more than one healer
20:42.36NivFreakBWL is a lot easier than AQ40 I think
20:42.39Arrowmasterwe did aq20 and our healer died on the first pack of mobs on rajaxx
20:42.39NeoTronit is
20:42.39Daemonaschool? you just wont get past em if you dont understand proximity aggro on port
20:42.49Arrowmasterbecause we grabbed more than 1 pack
20:42.55NeoTronwe zerged pretty much everything
20:42.56Arrowmasterbut we still killed him
20:42.59NivFreakDarkAudit: people can't pay attention in PUGs
20:43.10Arrowmasterbecause we had 2 prot pallys that healed
20:43.11DarkAuditNivFreak, or raids :)
20:43.11chiperI want to head to UBRS and get that Leeeeeeeroy achievement
20:43.13Daemonayou know whats the greatest to watch in aq40`?
20:43.17Dhragaregarding dps.. I have been so busy with addons so I havent event specced my Warlock yet.. anyone tested any high dps builds yet ? (I was 0/21/40 Tier 6 Lock)
20:43.21Daemonalvl 70's with runspeed on boots
20:43.23NivFreakchiper: it's easy
20:43.26Daemonarunning into the beam
20:43.26NivFreakI have it
20:43.28Daemona;)
20:43.32ArrowmasterDhraga: there are no high dps builds
20:43.40Arrowmasteryou will do less than you did prepatch
20:43.40chiperNivFreak: I figured, at least for any AoE capable class
20:43.42NeoTronLocks remain around 2000-2500 dps
20:43.55NivFreakDaemona: yea, I've seen that a few times :)
20:43.55NeoTronit's just that everyone else gained 1000-1500 DPS so locks now are near the botton of the dps pack
20:44.05Dhragaarrowmaster: ack.. Warlocks... nerfed since 2.0
20:44.06NivFreakchiper: I did it on my warrior
20:44.07NivFreaklol
20:44.17ArrowmasterNeoTron: i couldnt even do 2000 dps as affliction
20:44.21NeoTronDhraga: not nerfed, just not buffed
20:44.29Arrowmasterno we really were nerfed
20:44.34chiperNivFreak: well thunderclap DID get buffed :)
20:44.35NeoTronwarlocks can do ~the same amount of DPS now
20:44.38NivFreakDhraga: one of my destro locks had good success with affliction
20:44.39NeoTron2500ish dps on brutallus etc
20:44.44DarkAuditone of our higer officers was pleading with people to be available to try and drop Illidan before Wrath hits... we may do it in the first week :)
20:44.45NivFreakchiper: shockwave
20:44.49chiperthat too
20:45.08NivFreak51/0/10
20:45.09ArrowmasterDarkAudit: you will, everything is fucking a joke now
20:45.15chipermy GM is creaming in his pants that he can actually do DPS on his prot tank  it's kind of funny
20:45.21HjalteBugsack (+buggrabber) is being weird. No slash commands and I also don't see Bugsack in my LDB display?
20:45.35DarkAuditArrowmaster, if our tank doesn't DE his weapon again
20:45.37ArrowmasterHjalte: you dont see it in your LDB display? wtf
20:45.39NivFreakchiper: yea, I beat a bad shadow priest on every fight in BT while MTing ;)
20:45.43DhragaWhat I've heard so far is that none is impressed by desto anymore, and the only viable builds are either demo or affliction... is that correct from your experience ?
20:45.47chiperand then there's our prot pallies, doing AoE damage that rivals our mages
20:46.07NeoTronDhraga: nope
20:46.11ArrowmasterDhraga: i dont see how people think affliction can do good dps
20:46.14NivFreakDhraga: destro is fine
20:46.17NeoTronbest WWS I've seen from SWP is destro
20:46.18chiperDhraga: aye, all our locks abandoned a full destro build
20:46.20Arrowmasteri couldnt break 2000dps
20:46.22NivFreakDhraga: better than demo
20:46.31chipermost are doing a demo/destro hybrid
20:46.34NeoTronI saw one 3300 DPS destro parse
20:46.42Arrowmasterwhat kinda gear?
20:46.45NeoTronbut that lock had like 67% crit rating
20:46.49Arrowmasterwtf
20:46.52NeoTronrandom luck
20:46.59Arrowmasterive only got 19% as affliction
20:47.04HjalteArrowmaster: I've had it working earlier today, but after reinstalling, I don't know if it's actually working. It isn't red or anything on the addons page on my login screen though.
20:47.07NeoTronppl with full  SWP gear, including kil'jaeden, seem to do about 2500 DPS or so
20:47.10DarkAuditArrowmaster, affliction still spec of choice for leveling post-60?
20:47.17NivFreakmother was fun this week
20:47.19ArrowmasterDarkAudit: no clue
20:47.20NivFreakhttp://wowwebstats.com/mruqq3nbbcbku?s=311259-325830
20:47.28NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/5hadot4m5wk31?s=136-25278
20:47.31ArrowmasterDarkAudit: it still has great self healing though
20:47.32NivFreakkarmy is affliction
20:47.33DhragaOkies, I was kinda interested in testing a FG demo build for fun if they have altered it so that our pets actually can stay alive now :P
20:47.43NivFreakDhraga: demo is the lowest dps spec atm
20:47.43HjalteIs there a script command that I can do that should result in a bug? :)
20:48.02Dhragaouch... hehe okies not going demo then ;)
20:48.05chiperHjalte: use your imagination
20:48.05NeoTronDarkAudit: affliction or demo both work for leveling
20:48.13NivFreakthe key for affliciton right now is
20:48.18NivFreakyou can only have one in the raid
20:48.19NivFreakdue to a bug
20:48.24ArrowmasterNivFreak: your warrior sucks
20:48.27NivFreakor someone gets fucked on dps
20:48.29NivFreakArrowmaster: which one?
20:48.33Arrowmasterthe top one
20:48.44NivFreaklol, why?
20:48.45Hjaltechiper: "/script do x at uuuu" worked :P
20:48.51Arrowmasterdeep wound is broken
20:48.53balstorwhat addon will put a small box on my screen with the current cordinates?
20:49.00chiperHjalte: use a function call wrong
20:49.06NivFreakArrowmaster: this was the first time he logged in after patch, no PTR or beta
20:49.11chiperpass nil to a string
20:49.14NivFreakbut yea
20:49.19NivFreakwe know arms warriors are broken
20:49.21Arrowmasterour 2x warglaive warrior got 3800 dps on brut
20:49.34NivFreakwe killed illidan for the first time, last week :P
20:49.36NivFreakbefore the patch
20:49.37chiperbalstor: tomtom will
20:49.38NivFreaker, well
20:49.38Arrowmasterwith deep wounds doing more damage than any other ability
20:49.40NivFreak2 weeks before I guess
20:49.41NeoTronI'd say a 2x warglaive warrior is a bit better geared
20:49.46balstorthanks chipper
20:49.51NivFreakwe're no sunwell guild :P
20:49.56NivFreaknever even zoned in as a guild
20:49.59chiperbalstor: but LocationFu and Broker_Location also work
20:50.07NivFreakwe have 1 or 2 DPSers with 4pc t6
20:50.46DarkAuditI'm still in triple digits in the red for BT DKP, so my only shot at glaives is if we drop him with no warriors or other rogues in the raid
20:51.17chiperso so so happy we dont use dkp
20:51.21Facktotumi have been waiting for the offhand for the last 6 months now
20:51.47DarkAuditchiper, we use FCZS
20:52.01chiperwe just open roll
20:53.28chipermaster looter posts each item one by one.  roll if you want it.  main spec mains get first dibs, then main spec alts, then off spec.
20:53.58Arrowmasterloot council
20:54.18NeoTronI am so glad I'm doing 10-man raiding come wotlk
20:54.31NeoTronwith the same relaxed loot system we use in kara etc
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20:54.51chipervery very little loot drama in my guild, we dont tolerate it.  kicked a lock out two weeks ago when the GM found out he had been telling people not to roll on his loot
20:55.01DhragaHmm btw it feels as I have missed something as I have no clue what the the LDB that have been mentioned here quite a few times is... guessing Fubar replacement ?
20:55.14chiperlibdatabroker
20:55.31chipermore like a fubar foundation
20:55.47DarkAuditI ended up in the hole 'cause for about a month, every drop was a rogue drop, and I was the only rogue in the raid
20:56.20Dhragachiper: and where do one DL the libdatabroker then ?
20:56.30chiperDarkAudit: see, I think that's just silly.  if you're the only one that can use it...
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20:57.22chiperDhraga: libdatabroker is just the library that all the mods use.  you need a display addon that uses LDB to get the fubar effect.  there's a bunch on wowi
20:57.30chiperI just use Broker2Fubar
20:57.52DarkAuditchiper, I see it as I've gotten more than my fair share of loot out of the raid if something more than one person can use drops
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20:58.06DhragaAh... so broker2fubar directs the ldb plugins to fubar then ?
20:58.13chiperDhraga: yes
20:58.24chiperDarkAudit: yeah, I suppose that makes sense
20:58.25DhragaThanks, I'm downloading that then..
20:58.44chiperstill seems wrong tho.  to go in debt for something that otherwise would be a shard
20:59.04ThiefMastersigh.. not being able to install addons with externals is so annoying
20:59.26ThiefMastercan't fucking get rid of babble spamming the error log with missing translations because  there are tons of adding embedding it :x
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21:01.33Daemonawtf ... http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/gizmodo/full/~3/423837733/multi+computer-f1-racing-screensaver-wins-office-coolness-pole-position
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21:03.34Repo10routes: 03Xinhuan * r187 Routes.lua: Fix taboo region creation menus and menuitems to work.
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21:04.22chiperDaemona: that is awesome
21:05.09Daemonathe problem is... for the sake of me i cant find more than 4 computers around me ... a circle is so boring ... i guess i gonna mess with a lab in university on monday :X
21:05.09winkillerKaelten: will there be onebank3/oneview3?
21:05.39Kaeltenyes....
21:05.41Kaelten:(
21:05.56DaemonaKaelten, just copy the Blizz line "When it's done..."
21:06.08NeoTronmy favorite is "in 2 weeks"
21:06.09Pkekyo|recommendations for where in Stormwind to fish (horde)?
21:06.12winkilleryes is ok :D
21:06.18NivFreakI've switched from onebag/* to combuctor
21:06.20Daemonaoh no, that was Duke Nukem Forever... the Blizz line is "Soon (tm)"
21:06.29NeoTronPkekyo|: SW achivement is just one fishing so should be trivial
21:06.31NivFreakfor the most part, I like it a lot more
21:06.34DarkAuditDaemona, I thought that was 3D Realms' excuse line
21:06.36NivFreaksmall things irritate me about it
21:06.39NeoTronthe If one i where you have to stay there for potentially hundreds of casts
21:06.45KaeltenNivFreak: :P
21:06.45winkiller"Duke Nukem Forever only takes so long because it will run on GNU/Hurd"
21:06.48winkillermy favorite
21:06.59NivFreakKaelten: broken addons == I move on :P
21:07.08KaeltenNivFreak: OneBag3 isn't broken :P
21:07.10chiperPkekyo|: end of the canal between trade district and old town?
21:07.14NivFreakOnebag was the 2nd or 3rd addon that I installed
21:07.19NivFreakKaelten: Onebank is
21:07.19chiperPkekyo|: I dont remember many NPCs down there
21:07.25thulPkekyo|: which server?
21:07.27Kaeltenno OneBank isn't done yet :P
21:07.30Kaeltenmuch different
21:07.31Kaeltenhehe
21:07.37winkillerI used to have onebag on all chars except druid and warrior
21:07.38Daemonapff ArkInventory for my sanity's sake... i am bad at keeping my bags in order ... so i just write rules ... and more rules ..
21:07.39NivFreakmuch like your curse move
21:07.41NivFreakI don't care
21:07.44DarkAuditWowInsider suggests the moat in front
21:07.45NivFreaknot done == broken
21:07.46NivFreakand it sucks
21:07.47NivFreak:)
21:07.50winkilleras any "static" bag sucks for 5+ itemsets
21:08.04winkillerreordering stuff ftl
21:08.14NivFreakwinkiller: outfitter ftw
21:08.18Kaeltenheh
21:08.40Kaeltenonebag3 is going to support a few types of plugins
21:08.45Pkekyo|thul: bloodfeather
21:08.49winkillerI tried em all
21:08.51Pkekyo|bwahahah, WoW reference to portal <3
21:08.51Kaeltenone of them for helping control layout and ordering of the slot
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21:08.54winkillerbagnon, baggins, etc
21:09.01Pkekyo|'The Cake is Not A Lie' achievment
21:09.05NivFreakwinkiller: did you try combuctor?
21:09.10chiperPkekyo|: :)
21:09.10winkillernope
21:09.11NeoTronis theer an addon to sort the guild bank btw?
21:09.11thulPkekyo|:P
21:09.15NeoTronpreferably between tabs..
21:09.17NivFreakwinkiller: it's decent, not perfect
21:09.23NivFreakNeoTron: I think ark does that
21:09.25NeoTronbecause I also use auto-sorting bags because I can't stand sorting it myself
21:09.44NeoTronNivFreak: ugh. I don't like Ark though. it's bad peformance
21:09.50NivFreakI use sanity bags when I need to search for shit
21:09.50NeoTronin my experience (why I changed to Baggins)
21:09.52chiperfriend and I think they need to put a Rick Astley in wow
21:09.53KaeltenNeoTron: OneVault will do some sorting, maybe not between pages, iirc thats annoying to accomplish
21:09.53Daemonano ark only sorts tabs by rules, it doesnt re-arange
21:09.56NivFreakNeoTron: I also am not a fan of Ark
21:10.08NeoTronKaelten: within a page would help
21:10.11NeoTrona lot
21:10.14DaemonaKaelten especially as it will spam the guild bank log
21:10.28NeoTronDaemona: this is a private guild bank so who cares? :P
21:10.32KaeltenWell, I'm not actually going to be moving the items
21:10.32NivFreakoh
21:10.38NivFreakyou want something that actually resorts?
21:10.40winkillerKaelten: where can I post the most wishlist stuff? :P
21:10.42KaeltenI'll be moving the slots to make it appear sorted :)
21:10.44NeoTronwas creating a new guild and accidently misspelled the name
21:10.44DaemonaNeoTron then you can work with arkinventory and rules if you only need it per tab
21:10.45NivFreakinstead of just displays them sorted?
21:10.46winkiller-the most
21:10.50NeoTronand didn't notice until I had bought 3 slots so I kept them
21:11.06Kaelten@project onebag3
21:11.07RepoKaelten: http://www.wowace.com/projects/onebag3/. OneBag3. Game: WoW. Leader: Kaelten. Updated: 15 hours ago. Tickets: 1/1
21:11.16Kaeltenwinkiller: ^
21:11.35winkillerty
21:11.37NeoTronNivFreak: well I would use a virtual view too, I don't care
21:11.46NeoTronjust thought that'd be hard to accomplish with the guild bank
21:11.58NeoTronplus with the guild bank, in the nominal case, others might look at it too
21:12.04NeoTronso ACTUALLY sorting has its benefits
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21:12.35Kaeltenwell the thing about the displaying it sorted is that it'll be more performant
21:12.36NivFreakyea, I sort it by hand :)
21:13.16Kaeltenwell its faster to set points on the slots than it is to move items
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21:15.04LegorolHi folks, is there any known solution to the problem with Rock's minimap icon (the screw thingy) showing up on each login?
21:15.07NivFreakI have to admit though, I do like having ways to easily filter my bags based on rarity and catagory
21:15.11NivFreakI just hate the way baggins does it
21:15.26NivFreakI still like one big bag for what I'm viewing, not 20 of them all over my screen
21:15.38ArrowmasterLegorol: LibRockConfig-1.0 alpha standalone should fix it
21:15.48Stanzilla^ nope
21:15.58Arrowmasterit should!
21:16.06Stanzillabut it doesn't .P
21:16.07LegorolArrowmaster: i see no such file on LibRock's page
21:16.16Arrowmasterits not on LibRock-1.0's page
21:16.21Pkekyo|allies on my server are strangely fond of killing off naked bovines :<
21:16.21Arrowmasterits on LibRockConfig-1.0's page
21:16.25Legoroloh i see
21:16.30Legorolwhat's the difference between the two addons?
21:16.58ArrowmasterLibRock-1.0 is like AceLibrary+AceAddon-2.0
21:16.59DarkAuditArrowmaster, the alpha and not the release?
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21:17.05Arrowmasteryeah the alpha
21:17.15Arrowmasterbug ckknight if you want it to be a release
21:17.22Arrowmasteractually i think ill bump it to beta
21:17.23Stanzillai just checked out via svn but it isnt fixed :(
21:17.28LegorolArrowmaster: I don't know how Ace is/was structured, sorry :)
21:17.38LegorolSo what does LibRock do, and what does LibRockConfig do?
21:17.39ArrowmasterStanzilla: ITS FIXED FOR ME
21:17.45StanzillaOMG
21:17.45LegorolTheir description pages are... sparsed at least
21:18.24ArrowmasterLibRockConfig creates that annoying minimap icon, and that annoying "Addon Preferences" window everybody refered to as the "Ace config"
21:18.49NeoTronKaelten: naturally, either would work for me
21:18.52NeoTronsince it's my own personal bank
21:18.53DarkAuditArrowmaster, r395 the right set?
21:19.01NeoTronthe guild bank I have an OCD officer to clean up
21:19.02LegorolArrowmaster: i wouldn't mind a bit more developer-oriented description
21:19.03Arrowmasteryeah
21:19.11ArrowmasterLegorol: you wont get one, rock is dead
21:19.16Legorolah ok
21:19.45LegorolAny known issues with mixing different versions of LibRock and LibRockConfig?
21:19.48Legorolthat i should be aware of..
21:19.50Arrowmasteryes
21:20.05Arrowmastersomething is broken in LibRock-1.0 with library upgrading
21:20.28Arrowmasteroh wait the r395 is already a beta
21:20.42DarkAuditArrowmaster, The Who says LONG LIVE ROCK
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21:21.42DarkAuditr395 is the most recent set on the files page... tagged a beta
21:22.17Pollekenevcairiel, ping
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21:22.55LegorolArrowmaster: ok is it safe for me to mix LibRock-1.0 WoW-3.0-release-2 (which is the latest release version) and LibRockConfig-1.0 WoW-3.0-release?
21:23.05Arrowmasteryes
21:23.09Legorolthanks
21:23.15dodgabtw happened to the /bugsack command?
21:23.41Stanzillavhaarr: is libdbicon optional in closetgnome?
21:24.00Arrowmasterdodga: gone for now until either vhaarr or i add it back
21:24.01NivFreakdodga: I think bugsack is broken or something
21:24.05NivFreakhehe
21:24.05dodga:(
21:24.12NivFreakis the fubar plugin dead too?
21:24.16Arrowmasteryes
21:24.20Arrowmasterits a LDB plugin now
21:24.26NivFreakwtf is LDB?
21:24.30Arrowmasterworks fine with Broker2FuBar though
21:24.33Arrowmaster~ldb
21:24.33purlldb is, like, a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master
21:24.33CIA-48cork: 03Tekkub 07master * r6f5f399 10/ modules/Druid.lua : Remove Omen of Clarity, is now passive - http://is.gd/4hc2
21:24.44vhaarrStanzilla: ah no, but it should be
21:24.45NivFreakso install broker2fubar, alright
21:24.47vhaarrStanzilla: I'll fix that tomorrow
21:24.56vhaarrdodga: it'll be back
21:25.06NivFreaklast updated 9/19/08, that seems bad :)
21:25.11PrimerAnyone know of an addon like Power Auras?
21:25.11Stanzillavhaarr: kk thx :)
21:25.14dodgavhaarr: I'll take your word for it :>
21:25.14ArrowmasterNivFreak: huh?
21:25.19NivFreakbroker2fubar
21:25.26PrimerSeems this hasn't been updated in ages, and one that worked in 2.4.3 no longer works
21:25.27AxodiousPrimer: power auras has been updated
21:25.28Arrowmaster@project broker2fubar
21:25.29RepoArrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker2fubar/. Broker2FuBar. Game: WoW. Leader: Kemayo. Authors: Arrowmaster, Adirelle. Updated: 5 hours ago. Tickets: 1/1
21:25.33Axodiousits on WI
21:25.36dodgaTekkub: Do you intend to fix tekticles? :D
21:25.37PrimerAxodious: awesome! thanks
21:25.44Axodiousits called power auras classic
21:25.47NivFreakah, so alpha only
21:25.50NivFreakis updated
21:25.55Tekkubworks fine for me
21:26.02ArrowmasterNivFreak: it shoudlnt be alpha!
21:26.06NivFreakwait
21:26.07NivFreakwtf
21:26.07dodgaTekkub: I get some errors, you want some pastey?
21:26.09NivFreakI blame CC
21:26.15NivFreakKolie: yes, you!
21:26.16NivFreak;)
21:26.17Tekkubuse the wrath version
21:26.54dodgaTekkub: Like, the snapshot from tekkub.net?
21:27.02dodgaBecause I'm using the one from WoWI
21:27.51NivFreakArrowmaster: just curious, what was the advantage of this change?
21:28.00vhaarrXinhuan: did you fix it so that fubar includes fubarplugin-3.0 ?
21:28.00Tekkubhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10186-tekticleswrath.html
21:28.01vhaarror someone
21:28.21dodgaTekkub: Uuuuh nice, I'll try that
21:28.32ArrowmasterNivFreak: did you look at that page for ldb?
21:28.41Xinhuanno i didn't
21:29.07Arrowmastervhaarr: fubar doesnt include libfubarplugin-3.0?
21:29.12vhaarrno
21:29.17Xinhuanit does not
21:29.27Arrowmasterwell every plugin does
21:29.33XinhuanLFBP-3.0 doesn't require fubar
21:29.34vhaarryes but mine won't
21:29.43vhaarrso someone add it to FuBar
21:29.52NivFreakArrowmaster: yes?
21:29.56XinhuanLFBP is "standalone" so that if fubar doesn't exist, it instead creates minimap buttons
21:30.00vhaarrso I can OptDep fubar and see if the library is present and then make a  plugin
21:30.05Xinhuanrather than create fubar plugins
21:30.10vhaarrXinhuan: and how does that affect adding it to fubar proper?
21:30.13vhaarrit doesn't
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21:30.17vhaarrI'll add it then
21:30.25Xinhuanask ck ;p
21:30.28Arrowmasterill do it
21:30.32vhaarrArrowmaster: okay
21:30.44Xinhuanif you add it, half the complaints on omen will stop ;p
21:30.46vhaarrgoodie
21:30.53Xinhuanthen i just have to worry about the other half
21:30.58Xinhuanwhich is minimap button
21:31.39vhaarrXinhuan: what I'm going to do with ClosetGnome is make one file called ClosetGnome-UI-LDB and one ClosetGnome-UI-FuBar, the FuBar plugin won't load if the LDB plugin is created
21:31.49vhaarrXinhuan: the LDB part will include a LibDBIcon-1.0
21:32.02Xinhuandid you see what i did in omen's PLAYER_LOGIN event?
21:32.07vhaarrand the fubar libs will not be included, and I'll OptDep FuBar
21:32.11vhaarrno
21:32.14Xinhuango look at it
21:32.17Xinhuanits about 20 lines
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21:33.02vhaarrXinhuan: right
21:33.06vhaarrXinhuan: same thing then, pretty much
21:33.13Panos13hm, i have asked everywhere but noone seems to have this issue:  I have problem selecting my pitbull raidframes, aka some "hotspots" work on the frame, but some dont so i need  to try multiple times;P
21:33.17vhaarrexcept I won't create the fubar plugin if LDB succeeded
21:33.31vhaarreven if fubarplugin-3.0 is there
21:33.35Xinhuani create them both anyway, unless one of the 2 bridges is present
21:33.40vhaarrI know
21:33.45vhaarrthat's why I said what I just said ..
21:34.22dodgaTekkub: Seems to be working, thanks a lot :D
21:34.27DarkAuditargh... need dinner... headed out for gyudon
21:34.35Repo10cryolysis3: 03Belazor * r20 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Cleaned the ToC some
21:34.36Repo- Added support for Frost Armor
21:34.41LegorolArrowmaster: how do i change the position of the Rock minimap icon? (now that you fixed the bug with it reshowing)
21:34.51Arrowmasteri didnt fix any bug
21:34.55Arrowmasteri just hard killed it
21:35.10Arrowmasterby commenting out a :Show() line
21:35.14Legorolalthough i must report that it's not working :(
21:35.17Legorolin r395
21:35.25ArrowmasterIT WORKS FOR ME!
21:35.35Legorolthat's fine :) but doesn't for me ;-)
21:35.38Legoroltake that as a bugreport
21:35.44Stanzillahaha :P
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21:38.19ThiefMasterhm, xperl seems to taint the "set focus" option in the player context menu
21:38.40Arrowmasteri think lots of things will taint that
21:38.53vhaarrArrowmaster: well bedtime, if you don't add it tonight I'll do it in the morning
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21:39.03Arrowmastervhaarr: im doing it right now
21:39.45KolieNivFreak: he was using wowi, I win.
21:40.06Repo10libdbicon-1-0: 03Rabbit * r4 .pkgmeta: Add .pkgmeta file.
21:40.14NivFreakKolie: hehe
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21:41.13Repo10gprice-each: 03Odlaw * r33 / (2 files in 1 directory): GPriceEach:
21:41.14Repo- Removed dependency on a load on demand addon (Blizzard_AuctionUI) and try to load it in OnEnable()
21:41.15Repo- Updated toc.
21:43.18waallencan you add fonts to tekticles by editing the lua? I mean, is there an in-game selector or something close to it?
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21:45.24Panos13im gonna retry just in case anyone missed it:P
21:45.28Panos13hm, i have asked everywhere but noone seems to have this issue:  I have problem selecting my pitbull raidframes, aka some "hotspots" work on the frame, but some dont so i need  to try multiple times;P
21:45.57Arrowmastertrying to make sure i get this right and dont cause a circular dependancy issue, i think that problem from beta was fixed but you never know
21:46.00waallenI don't use pitbull for raidframes but last time I had something similar to that, I had hidden actionbars or bars in general close to those spots
21:46.34waallenI am going to try again too, does anyone know how to display tooltips over party unitframes even when those are in a different location than yours?
21:46.40NivFreakyea, chat windows seem likely to be an issue ;)
21:46.43NivFreakor invis frames
21:46.50NivFreakI've had similar problems
21:47.04Panos13thanks waallen, might be the issue
21:47.30waallenno problems, I myself couldn't click some buttons on the actionbars because they were too close to chat frames / borders sometimes
21:47.45Panos13looks like you were right:P
21:47.55waallenglad to help!
21:48.01Panos13yea, i had some bt4 bars with no buttons active underneath:P
21:48.30waallen:)
21:48.47NivFreakthat was one of those issues that really angered me ;)
21:49.12waallenI think I had that with bartender buttons being overlapped by invisible autobar buttons
21:49.29NivFreakyea
21:49.37NivFreakman, I really like the concept of autobar
21:49.40Repo10fubar: 03Arrowmaster * r6 / (3 files in 1 directory):
21:49.41RepoEmbed LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 and add Broker2FuBar as an 'optional dependancy' in .pkgmeta
21:49.42NivFreakbut it really kills my performance
21:50.08waallenit's quite memory intensive I guess but I can't really play without it, I am just too used
21:50.40waallenI don't like having buttons for bandages, health pots, healthstones, racials and professions all around my actionbars either
21:52.01Repo10chatter: 03grum * r197 Chatter.lua: Chatter:
21:52.02Repo- make /chatter work again (3.0.2 undocumented change)
21:52.53Repo10chatter: 03grum * r198 Chatter.lua: Chatter: Future proof FCF_Tab_OnClick fix.
21:53.39Repo10fubar: 03Arrowmaster * r7 FuBar.toc: Correct CallbackHandler-1.0 path
21:54.33Repo10fubar: 03Arrowmaster 04v3.5.1 * r8 / (6 files in 1 directory): Tagging as v3.5.1
21:55.08Arrowmasterthat was weird
21:55.25Arrowmasterit shouldnt have done that
21:56.01Repo10chatter: 03grum * r199 Modules/PlayerNames.lua:
21:56.02RepoChatter: Fix PlayerNames for playerlinks without ':[0-9]+' in it.
21:57.38NivFreakmeh, WIM doesn't do tabbed chat atm
21:57.39NivFreakfail
21:58.06Cheadswim is in a rather buggy state right now
21:58.11HjalteNivFreak: I believe Cellular might do that.
21:58.27NivFreakCheads: yea...
21:58.41Repo10chatter: 03grum * r200 Modules/ChannelNames.lua:
21:58.42RepoChatter: Properly fix ChannelNames (the last fix left 'add space' broken.)
21:59.04NeoTronthe lack of tabbed chat is the main killer for me in wim back when I still used it
21:59.13NeoTronHjalte: cellular is a wim like addon?
21:59.32NivFreakI've been really enjoying the chat frames bugs that affect both the vanilla frame, and prat :)
21:59.43HjalteNeoTron: Yes.
21:59.44NivFreakevery other tab randomly disappears
22:00.25sylvanaaryou know you can mouse over the ace3 options tree and the tabs will pop up
22:00.27NeoTronI have a better one
22:00.46NeoTronI logged in into 3.0 and all of a sudden I got a bunch of tabs BACK on a character that perviously had lost all of tem
22:00.49sylvanaarits like its ticklish
22:00.58NeoTronsylvanaar: hot
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22:01.42sylvanaari know, cyboring with my options menu, makes my chat tabs all wiggly
22:01.47NivFreaknice, pitbull aura just started spamming errors
22:02.27sylvanaarjust delete you chat cache and start over
22:03.02Pneumatussylvanaar: is there a way to make prat highlight player names in text, but NOT in item/spell links? :)
22:03.20sylvanaarum, it doesnt do it in the item links imo
22:03.22Arrowmastera proper pattern matching
22:03.24Pneumatusit does
22:03.44Pneumatusthere's a guy in my guild called "healing" which cocks up item links
22:03.53Arrowmasterlol
22:03.56sylvanaardo you have any other chat addons?
22:04.01Pneumatusno, just prat
22:04.16sylvanaartry turning on the links module
22:04.19Pneumatusi had to switch off "color names everywhere" as it was annoying me :s
22:04.43sylvanaarchatlink even
22:05.46Pneumatuswill give that a try
22:06.13Pneumatusno, they still get colored
22:06.53sylvanaarwell, it will require some retuning then, as i'll have to add prioritization
22:07.02Repo10chatter: 03grum * r201 / (2 files in 2 directories): Chatter:
22:07.02Repo- Fixed ChatTabs and enabled it again in modules.xml.
22:07.04RepoThere is still a lingering issue described in ChatTabs.lua which needs further investigation.
22:07.12Pneumatusyou want me to make a ticket or something to remind you of the issue?
22:07.19sylvanaarsure
22:07.39sylvanaareven better if you can copy chat it, and post the sample
22:07.48sylvanaarusing bbcode
22:08.46NivFreakckknight: have you seen this yet? http://ace.pastey.net/98608
22:08.47sylvanaaryou know how to do that right?
22:08.57ckknightyea
22:09.00Arrowmasterlua> string.format("%2$s %1$s", "one", "two")
22:09.00lua_botArrowmaster: luabot:1: invalid option '%$' to 'format'
22:09.15NivFreakckknight: k, so I assume it's not me doing something bad? :)
22:09.22ckknightcould be
22:09.22Arrowmasterso thats wow only?
22:09.24ckknightshrugs
22:09.40ckknightArrowmaster: it was actually lua 4.0, lua 5.0 removed it, but WoW patched it in
22:10.37Repo10dictator: 03JoshBorke 040.3-30000 * 513bc3c /: [new tag] add options to all of the modules (only enable-disable for now)
22:12.06Pneumatussylvanaar: no idea how to color text using the curse bbcode o.O
22:12.09Repo10chatter: 03grum * r202 Modules/PlayerNames.lua:
22:12.10RepoChatter: Fix PlayerNames on /who with non [A-Za-z0-9] chars. %w is too restrictive.
22:12.17Pneumatuswtb rich text editor
22:12.41sylvanaarits a copychat option...then you post that and its an option when you post to use bbcode
22:15.05Brunerswhat buffmod is working good now? pref buffalo like
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22:15.42Pneumatussylvanaar: ticket bbcode fails, [color] isnt a valid tag, sorry :<
22:18.01sylvanaarsee the dropdown that says "markup"
22:18.05sylvanaarchange to bbcode
22:18.29Pneumatusargh, when you edit a ticket you cant change markup
22:18.30sylvanaarIt says "Curse wiki" normally
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22:20.11Pneumatussylvanaar: just tried posting a comment with BBCode set again, and its still not recognising the color tag
22:20.21sylvanaargood enough
22:21.05DarkAuditmmm... gyudon
22:21.09Arrowmasteruse cursewiki
22:21.22Arrowmasteryou can cheat and use <html> </html> in cursewiki
22:21.26sylvanaari dont think bbcode options works
22:21.49Arrowmasteryou can cheat and use <html><font color="red">text</font></html> in cursewiki
22:22.18sylvanaaroh
22:22.21sylvanaarmore work
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22:26.21Pneumatusthere you go, ive put a comment with some html color on the ticket as well :P
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22:27.19sylvanaarok, cool thanks
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22:27.57sylvanaarthe background color in the forum is too light...can i change it?
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22:30.21thulhttp://fc61.deviantart.com/fs34/i/2008/291/8/0/TV4_by_BenoitPaille.jpg <-  Ilike that picture too (nsfw)
22:34.24fewynGlyph of Souls - Reduces the mana cost of your Ritual of Souls spell by 70%. (Old - Your Ritual of Souls spell no longer requires a Soul Shard.)
22:34.26fewynfucking fail
22:36.16Josh_Borkewho gives a rats ass about the mana cost?
22:36.20Josh_Borkeyou're going to cast it while you can drink
22:36.20fewynnot me
22:36.26Josh_Borkethat's a dumb change
22:36.31fewyni want the shard gone
22:36.34fewyni want shards GONE
22:36.35fewynperiod
22:36.42Josh_Borkeshards will never be gone
22:36.44fewynold broken and stupid system
22:36.48Josh_Borkebecause then you're just a shadow mage
22:36.57fewyni have to carry an entire god damn bag slot wherver i go
22:37.24Josh_Borkei agree that it's dumb that you have to waste a bag slot
22:38.10sylvanaarYou know its not supposed to be matching Healing]
22:38.16sylvanaarthats wierd
22:38.55bien|is there a LDB plugin to display the bag such as bagFU ?
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22:42.21sylvanaari guess the frontier pattern doesnt work for ] arrowmaster
22:42.38Arrowmasterit does
22:42.59Arrowmasteryou need to do %f[%]] probably
22:43.09Arrowmasterand what are you trying to match?
22:43.20sylvanaarArrowmaster]
22:43.23Repo10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r27 / (4 files in 4 directories): ZOMGBuffs:
22:43.24Repo- Added Earthliving weapon to shaman self buffs.
22:43.24Repo- Now checks for Improved Earth Shield for display stack counter.
22:43.24sylvanaarshould not match
22:43.27Repo- Should not display blessings buffs bars in raid list when nothing of your own to show any more.
22:43.33Arrowmasterhuh?
22:43.37sylvanaark
22:43.38Arrowmasteris this for the item link fix?
22:43.46sylvanaaryeah
22:43.56Pneumatuswell, [..Arrowmaster..] shoudn't match ideally
22:43.59Arrowmasteryou should ignore everything inside |H|h|h
22:44.09Pneumatusignore anything thats already colored, perhaps
22:44.15Arrowmasterno
22:44.24sylvanaarwell, ArrowmasterFooFoo
22:44.28sylvanaar<PROTECTED>
22:44.35Arrowmastereverything inside |H.-|h.-|h
22:45.04Arrowmasteryou cant touch any links
22:45.17Pneumatuslooking at it actually, you definatly cant
22:45.22sylvanaarwhat i mean is, names need to end with a space or eol
22:45.29Pneumatusas because you've touched the link, they then cant be re-linked
22:45.43Repo10guildmap3: 03Sadiqi 040.3.1 * r3 : Tagging as 0.3.1.
22:45.45sylvanaaryes they can
22:46.00Arrowmasternot if you mangle it
22:46.11sylvanaarno, not if i mangle it, i realize that
22:46.24Pneumatus[2008/10/17 23:14:25-600-x1]: SendChatMessage(): Invalid escape code in chat message:
22:46.30sylvanaarbut i already link things over channels
22:46.30Pneumatusafter they get mangled
22:47.16sylvanaari guess i can take the match and yield back the ]
22:48.03Pneumatussylvanaar: [Healing Prayers] does the same
22:48.14sylvanaarright
22:48.15Pneumatus"Healing" is colored, the rest remains the default blue
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22:48.35sylvanaarwhat i am saying is that in the same way that XHealing shouldnt match
22:48.42Pneumatusyeh
22:48.42sylvanaar<PROTECTED>
22:49.10sylvanaarbut i guess you would want Healing?
22:49.13sylvanaar<PROTECTED>
22:49.24Pneumatusinside a link it shouldn't match at all
22:49.36sylvanaari understand that
22:49.43Arrowmasteryou need to ignore links for everything you do in prat
22:49.57Pneumatusit looks like [azAz]Healing wont match, but any non-alphanum does still match
22:50.27Arrowmasterwhats the pattern?
22:51.24sylvanaarmeh you could have [A Healing B]
22:51.42sylvanaarthat really messes stuff up
22:52.52bien|can someone help me with http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9022/errorxz6.png ?
22:52.59Pneumatussec while i switch chat logging on :)
22:53.02pastamancerfrontier pattern!
22:53.10sylvanaarno it already failed
22:53.34pastamanceroh :(
22:53.53sylvanaarit works really well for any other case, i have to match all known link types, and replace them with themself
22:54.04sylvanaarthats all
22:54.07Repo10autoqueue: 03Jazradel * r2 / (2 files in 1 directory): Updating for 3.02
22:54.24pastamancerfor prat?
22:54.25sylvanaarit is already using frontier patter though pastamancer
22:54.27sylvanaaryes
22:54.33pastamancerhave fun
22:54.41sylvanaartheres only a few
22:54.48sylvanaarthey are already defined
22:54.52sylvanaarin prat
22:56.27Pneumatusgkicking everyone whos name appears in a link's name may solve the problem :>
22:56.34sylvanaarlol
22:56.43sylvanaarno, i'll fix it eventually
22:57.12bien|anyone here who uses Ara_Broker_Guild_Friends ?
22:58.02Repo10autoqueue: 03Jazradel 04release * r3 : Releasing for 3.02
22:58.14sylvanaari'll have to add priorities to the patterns though, so that the link patterns can be tried first
22:58.48sylvanaarmy head hurts
22:59.03Pneumatushmm, chatlog strips |Hlink etc?
22:59.09Pneumatuslose :<
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23:02.12sylvanaaryeah, but it leaves the linking around the channel
23:02.16sylvanaarthats new
23:02.40sylvanaari know it wasnt always like that
23:04.08AdysAny idea why Ace2 keeps putting back its minimap icon even though I disable it every time?
23:04.38Pneumatusthats rock, adys
23:04.52Adysow
23:05.09Pneumatusjust hide it, or something
23:05.34Adysyeah I mean, I disabled the minimap icon
23:05.39Adysevery reloadui it comes back
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23:06.06PneumatusAdys: tried /rock -> hide fubar plugin?
23:06.35AdysDont have that option, only got the "Show minimap icon" toggle
23:06.49Adysacts the same about "Send addon version info" and "Send talent info"
23:07.15ArrowmasterAdys: thats not ace2
23:07.16Repo10fishermans-friend: 03dhedbor 04r64-beta * r64 : Tagging r64-beta to get it syndicated to curse
23:07.25Pneumatusnot sure then, i know its been commented out in the latest rock build though
23:07.32Arrowmasterits librockconfig
23:07.34Arrowmasterand i fixed it
23:07.51Adysupdates
23:07.56bien|and it dont work Arrowmaster ^^
23:08.13bien|it doesnt work on my client... -.-
23:08.16bien|sry^^
23:08.27leech2kcan I move rock icon location if there is another icon coverin it?
23:08.28ArrowmasterIT WORKS FOR ME
23:08.40ArrowmasterDELETE YOUR DAMN LIBROCKCONFIG FROM ALL EMBEDS
23:08.57Arrowmasteri bet i know what the problem is
23:09.00Pneumatusleech2k /script MiniMapTrackingButton:Hide()
23:09.02Pneumatus:)
23:09.09Pneumatusthen you can drag it :P
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23:09.28leech2kthx
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23:09.54Adirellethe feeling I have sometimes is that embedded lib *should* work, but as most devs work with disembedded libs, most related issues pass through
23:10.23bien|Arrowmaster: i dont have any librockconfig embedded... oO
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23:10.32bien|or i dont find it
23:10.57PneumatusAdirelle: the issue is only going to be compounded by the fact that developers will need to tag new releases to send out updated embeds for those not embedding
23:11.09bien|arrr....
23:11.18bien|Arrowmaster i'm so sorry :(
23:11.37Arrowmasterok nvm, i was thinking that the svn:keywords might have been wrong but nope, its correct
23:11.40Arrowmasterso yeh
23:11.46ArrowmasterNOT MY PROBLEM
23:11.58bien|i've found the configs :/
23:12.13Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03StingerSoft * r1678 / (3 files in 2 directories): - ruRU update.
23:14.00bien|Arrowmaster: should i delete the embeds, or should i replace them?
23:14.10Arrowmasterwhat damn addons do you people have that use librock anyway?
23:14.38sztanpetthe good ones!44
23:14.43Arrowmasterthere are no good ones
23:14.48sztanpetlies!
23:14.56bien|Arrowmaster: cowtip,chinchilla,pitbull,parrot
23:15.02sztanpetyup
23:15.08sztanpetzeh most essential ones
23:15.34PneumatusArrowmaster: cart2
23:15.41ArrowmasterPneumatus: disable that crap
23:15.51Pneumatusfind me a replacement for guild positions then
23:15.59ArrowmasterHandyNotes_Guild
23:16.01sztanpetcart3 !
23:16.22sztanpet< ckk fanboi
23:16.35ckknightmuch love to the fanbois
23:16.54Arrowmasterand no love for those that cleanup ckknight's mess all the time
23:17.03ckknightI give them love
23:17.11ckknightnot physically, though
23:17.14Repo10broker2fubar: 03Adirelle 041.1 * r29 : Tagging as 1.1.
23:17.15ckknightI have boundaries
23:17.24sztanpetaw, i wuv u all |------------| this much!
23:17.59sztanpetbtw doesnt libdbicon seem to not care about the icon being set to hidden
23:18.30Arrowmasterckknight: seriously can we please do something about open repos and people tagging stuff they shouldnt
23:18.48ckknightwe could disable open repos
23:18.50Repo10broker_tracking: 03andreasg * r40 : Fix externals
23:18.54Repo10broker_pv-p: 03andreasg * r41 : Fix externals
23:18.58Repo10broker_mail: 03andreasg * r40 : Fix externals
23:18.58Arrowmasterlike no tags from anybody thats not on the author list (except site mods)
23:19.02Repo10broker_clock: 03andreasg * r45 : Fix externals
23:19.17ckknightfile a ticket about that
23:19.29Arrowmasterag`: why are you fixing externals? they arent used anymore
23:20.06evlAnyway to call super/original method?
23:20.12evlI'd like to override RegisterEvent
23:20.21NeoTronArrowmaster: if ppl check out from svn they are.. and some still are
23:20.23Arrowmasterckknight: example being fishermans-friend, some random person that i dont think ive ever seen a commit from before tagged it for beta when its not even fixed yet
23:20.36Arrowmasterif you checkout from svn you should be using standalones
23:20.46Arrowmasterunless your a massocist
23:20.48Arrowmasteror something
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23:21.09ckknightmasochist
23:21.36sylvanaaryou can tag open repos?
23:21.49sylvanaaroh, using svn
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23:22.11Adirellethat should work with git/hg too I think
23:22.40sylvanaarso if i tag from the svn that will become a beta
23:22.50Arrowmasteror release
23:23.05sylvanaarhoho
23:23.09Arrowmasterexactly
23:23.40sylvanaarneed to secure the tag tree
23:24.13Adirellefile-level control in svn has terrible performance
23:24.23Arrowmasterumm
23:24.27Arrowmasterits all in the hooks
23:24.34Arrowmasterthat already exist
23:24.41Arrowmasteror are you talking about something ele
23:24.42Arrowmasterelse
23:25.25NeoTronwho
23:25.28NeoTronerr
23:25.45Adirellethe built-in file-level authorization
23:25.58Arrowmasternah the hooks can do it
23:26.01bien|Arrowmaster: i deleted all librockconfig and librock folders and replaced them with the ones you told me but the button wont die :(
23:26.31Adirellethough this maybe in the case of using both built-in authorization and HTTP protocol (mod_svn)
23:28.29Adirelleg'night
23:28.38ShefkiUnless someone else messed with LibRockConfig that I haven't noticed that bug is just still there and broken.
23:28.55ArrowmasterShefki: i fixed it the other day
23:29.03Stanzillathe button is still there
23:29.10ArrowmasterNOT MY PROBLEM
23:29.17ArrowmasterITS FUCKING GONE FOR ME
23:29.21Stanzillamaybe you fixed something but did not commit it? :P
23:29.27sztanpethe did
23:29.40sztanpetthe commit msg was DIE MINIMAPBUTTON DIE or something like
23:29.41Stanzillabut what he commited does not fix it :P
23:29.45Arrowmasterits because you have embedded versions and rock is fucking broken
23:30.15ShefkiActually I don't and it's still broken. :)
23:30.17Axodiousi blame wau not being here anymore :(
23:30.31Arrowmasterwau has nothing to do with it
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23:30.54ArrowmasterShefki: ok fine give me a sec
23:31.11ShefkiArrowmaster: I don't care, you don't have to run off and mess with it.
23:31.26sylvanaarhe wont be able to stop now
23:31.50Arrowmaster@ticket curseforge.com 778
23:31.50RepoArrowmaster: No project found that matches 'curseforge.com'
23:31.54Arrowmaster@ticket curseforge 778
23:31.54RepoArrowmaster: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/778-restrict-tagging-on-open-repos/. 778 - Restrict tagging on open repos. Reported by: Arrowmaster. Type: Defect. Updated: 20 seconds ago. Component: Repositories. Status: Accepted. Priority: Critical. Votes: 0. Comments: 0
23:32.03Arrowmasteri abuse my access
23:32.17Arrowmasterskip right from 'new' to 'accepted'
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23:32.22doom0rmmm, ocd makes life somewhat enjoyable
23:32.41sylvanaarthe irony
23:33.04Repo10flex-bar2: 03shaten * r440 .pkgmeta: FlexBar2: fixing Externals for packager
23:34.27Repo10analyst: 03Bethink * r4 / (14 files in 1 directory): Porting to Wow 3.0/Ace3 (work in progress)
23:34.49Repo10range-display: 03mitch0 * r166 / (3 files in 2 directories): more config tweaks, broken at the moment
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23:36.28doom0rhow's that range-display look, something similar to nudge?
23:38.49Arrowmasterckknight: god damnit
23:39.06Arrowmasterckknight: you fucking bastard and your god damn fucking total hack jobs
23:39.48Repo10librangecheck-2-0: 03mitch0 07drycode * r26 LibRangeCheck-2.0/LibRangeCheck-2.0.lua: cleanup, better item caching
23:39.53balstorhe's jealous of your elite corner hacking skill
23:40.06NeoTronit seems to me that Arrowmaster has lots of anger recently
23:40.14ShefkiArrowmaster: What did he do?
23:40.35Arrowmasterthe fucker is using TALENT_FRAME_WAS_SHOWN as his saved var for rock
23:40.53Shefkilol
23:41.01mitchnulldoomor: basically, it's like "30 - 35" :)
23:41.07[dRaCo]... the fuck?
23:41.14ckknightI blame the lack of RegisterForSave
23:41.17ShefkiI looked at fixing rock config and couldn't figure out the saved  var and gave up.
23:41.31ArrowmasterITS FUCKING BROKEN I TELL YOU
23:41.34syerenAll better be watching http://tv.esl.eu/de/esltv_stream/stream/55-flv-free
23:41.35ArrowmasterROCK IS DEAD
23:41.38ShadowedThats an old thing
23:41.41Shadowedrealllllllllly old
23:41.41ArrowmasterNOBODY WILL FUCKING FIX IT NOW
23:41.44syerenWoW 3v3 Tournament with 3.0 patch.
23:41.44syerenhttp://tv.esl.eu/de/esltv_stream/stream/55-flv-free
23:41.45syeren!
23:41.57mitchnulldoom0r: http://www.wowace.com/projects/range-display/images/
23:42.35mitchnulldoom0r: but the current version is broken I think (at least the gui config part). I'll release a beta soonish (maybe tomorrow)
23:42.54Arrowmastertime to collect the wowace/curseforge spam from my email
23:43.17NeoTronArrowmaster: I disagree with that ticket. greatly. It's one of the biggest benefit to the users with the new system.
23:43.29ArrowmasterNeoTron: its broken
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23:43.42ShefkiWhat ticket?
23:43.43NeoTronhaving a flag to disable it not bad. disabling it by default would be
23:43.45Brunersckknight: could you update cowtip with the correct folder layout for LibSharedMedia-3.0 ?
23:43.48Arrowmasterand i for one will not allow anything i create to be an open repo because of it
23:43.53doom0rmitchnull: thanks, didn't realize there was an ss feature on the pages
23:43.58ArrowmasterBruners: theres no problem
23:44.04ArrowmasterBruners: and that layout will change
23:44.07NeoTronthat's fine but it allows things like worable BulkMail2 to be available
23:44.19mitchnulldoom0r: yeah, it's not very obvious :) I learnt of it only today, too ;)
23:44.21NeoTronwhere the author hasn't been around in forever
23:44.44NeoTronin fact I just told a friend of mine how that was one of the biggest benefit with wowace now over other places to host wow addons
23:44.47ShefkiIsn't BulkMail2 obsolete with the multi-mail system anyway?
23:44.56BrunersArrowmaster: Interface\Addons\CowTip\libs\LibSharedMedia-3.0\LibSharedMedia-3.0
23:45.02NeoTronShefki: not at all
23:45.03ArrowmasterBruners: not broken
23:45.04NeoTronShefki: it automatically mails stuff to the correct bank alt
23:45.13ArrowmasterBruners: infact its correct for the future
23:45.26mitchnulllaterz
23:45.40BrunersArrowmaster: its not working here with the version from curse unless i move the lua up one folder
23:45.50doom0rShefki: it's about the difference between playing an FPS with a kb/mouse vs. a gamepad
23:45.55ArrowmasterBruners: then cowtip needs retaged
23:46.25ArrowmasterNeoTron: except fuckers creating tags of unfinished stuff is just wrong
23:46.39BrunersArrowmaster: thats possible
23:47.01ShefkiArrowmaster: Has anyone actually done that yet?
23:47.06ArrowmasterYES
23:47.36ShefkiAlso do you have an issue with your caps lock key?
23:47.39NeoTronArrowmaster: it has its drawbacks but in many cases it's highly benefitial
23:47.44Shadowedwait
23:47.56ShadowedAre you arguing that it's good for random users to tag things so other users can download them?
23:47.58NeoTronthe benefits outweighs the drawbacks, but if people abuse it you can already fix it.
23:48.16NeoTronShadowed: I'm arguing that it's a good thing that I can fix an addon and tag it, yes
23:48.24Arrowmasterdraw back of when it happens to an author they will close their repo to prevent it from ever happening again due to the support nightmares of somebody else causing unfinished code to be released
23:48.30ShadowedThen why don't you take it over and release it
23:48.32NeoTronwhen the author has been missing for 6-12 months
23:48.37NeoTronand it broke in 3.0
23:48.57Arrowmasterbulkmail2?
23:49.05ArrowmasterhC was here just recently
23:49.14Brunershttp://bruners.googlepages.com/fixes <- caps lock fixer
23:49.18NeoTronArrowmaster: but he hasn't touch BM2 for a long time
23:49.29NeoTronit was broken _before_ 3.0 cam eout and has been for quite a while
23:49.34Arrowmasterso fix it and request being added to the author list
23:49.39NeoTronit just completely broke from the patch vs just causing occasional errors
23:49.51Arrowmasteryeah because the hooks need changed
23:50.04NeoTronthere's some other errors too (same as were heer before I believe)
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23:50.27JoshBorkehm
23:50.34JoshBorkei wonder why my mod hasn't been updated yet
23:50.43doom0rIs there any header only feed for http://www.wowace.com/projects/ anywhere?
23:50.51Arrowmasterno
23:50.57Arrowmasterand that is not a 'new files' list
23:51.00Arrowmasterdont use it as one
23:51.23doom0rno one said it was :)
23:51.30Arrowmasterthat list is useless
23:52.26Repo10dictator: 03JoshBorke 040.3a-30000 * 62884fe /: [new tag] add options to all of the modules (only enable-disable for now)
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23:54.19doom0ris there an activity log elsewhere that would be as condensed as if that was header only?
23:54.40Arrowmasterno
23:55.04doom0rk, hmmm, sounds like a cf ticket suggestion after i go get food
23:55.27Arrowmasterwe dont need one, theres a list of updated addon on curse
23:56.13doom0rthat needs some work
23:56.53Repo10nauticus: 03Drool * r69 / (5 files in 1 directory): Nauticus:
23:56.54Repo- bump TOC
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23:56.54Repo- fix externals and libs
23:56.59Repo- TODO: recalibrate routes
23:57.12NeoTronArrowmaster: so maybe this is a stupid question but.. how do you "contact the author" via wowace.com? I don't see any email or way to send a message on an author's profiel
23:57.27doom0ron new sessions it shows me an update "date" then falls back a day, like it's correcting itself for time offset
23:57.42Arrowmasterprivate message on forums
23:57.46ag`question
23:57.52ag`was shaman shields always mana free
23:57.55ag`and why? :P
23:57.55[dRaCo]no
23:58.01[dRaCo]and it is now because.
23:58.09ag`uh wierd shit
23:58.11NeoTronsome integration between profile <-> forum PM might be nice
23:58.25crookfingerjakeI've just installed TortoiseSVN so I can grab updates off the SVN, but how do I get there?
23:58.41Arrowmasterif you dont know how to use svn then you dont need to
23:58.44Arrowmasteruse the damn curse client
23:58.53crookfingerjakeYou're too kind.
23:59.04Arrowmasterdo you want public repo access removed?
23:59.39crookfingerjakeOf course not, I don't intend to muck about in there, only grab particular updates from time to time.

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