| 00:00.01 | fewyn | http://www.wowace.com/projects/force-enchant/ |
| 00:00.08 | fewyn | but someone already made one |
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| 00:02.33 | Groktar | zomg |
| 00:02.34 | Groktar | A: We have one great update. Blizzcon exclusive! In the 1st content patch that follows wotlk, all of your ground mounts will no longer dismount in water. they'll swim now. |
| 00:02.36 | Groktar | yay! |
| 00:02.41 | fewyn | yep |
| 00:02.47 | Spennig | wow |
| 00:02.53 | Mytos | WHAT |
| 00:02.58 | Groktar | 3.1 giev |
| 00:03.13 | Mytos | i think theyre pullin the wool over your eyes |
| 00:04.32 | Groktar | Q: Will we ever find out what happened with alleria and tyrion and deathwing? |
| 00:04.32 | Groktar | A: Working on it and yes. |
| 00:04.39 | Groktar | wtb deathwing encounter |
| 00:04.55 | Groktar | tbc was severely lacking in the dragon department |
| 00:05.36 | Arrowmaster | but but |
| 00:05.39 | nevcairiel | dragons live on the old world, not in outlands |
| 00:05.44 | Arrowmaster | i killed 2 dragons? |
| 00:05.46 | Arrowmaster | i think |
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| 00:05.55 | Groktar | i hate outland so much |
| 00:06.03 | Arrowmaster | wait do undead dragons count? |
| 00:06.07 | Arrowmaster | would be 3 then |
| 00:06.17 | nevcairiel | only dragons you kill are the tainted blue dragons in sunwell |
| 00:06.24 | Mytos | nightbane adn spite werent in outland |
| 00:06.26 | nevcairiel | and the 2 undead in karazhan are old world :P |
| 00:06.28 | grennon | screw swimming, i need an updated riding crop that lets me ride across water like death knights |
| 00:06.31 | Arrowmaster | er 4 |
| 00:06.42 | Mytos | every dragon we owned was in the old world, not outland |
| 00:06.56 | Mytos | deathknights can ride across water? |
| 00:07.03 | Mytos | they giving us back waterwalk with mounts? |
| 00:07.05 | fewyn | ponders actually posting this addon |
| 00:07.19 | JoshBorke | fewyn: what addon? |
| 00:07.20 | Groktar | did they take it away Mytos? |
| 00:07.31 | Mytos | a while ago as far as i know |
| 00:07.31 | Arrowmaster | Mytos: yes, or atleast they could last time i was on beta |
| 00:07.35 | fewyn | just something quick i made up awhile ago |
| 00:07.41 | Arrowmaster | but that was like 3 patches ago |
| 00:07.49 | fewyn | to auto accept replacing "enchants" |
| 00:08.27 | JoshBorke | ah, you should |
| 00:08.37 | JoshBorke | serves people right if they don't want it |
| 00:08.39 | nevcairiel | ok now finally sleep, done fixing my library list and posting deprecated warnigns on the addon pages of some libs :P |
| 00:08.45 | JoshBorke | you shouldn't include an email though ;-) |
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| 00:20.43 | fewyn | now to figure out how this works... |
| 00:21.17 | fewyn | oh i need approval first? |
| 00:24.08 | sylvanaar | sure you could have uploaded a keylogger |
| 00:24.35 | fewyn | i r teh king at logging ur keys |
| 00:24.42 | KriLL3 | addons in the form of an executable is a no-no =P |
| 00:24.46 | fewyn | oh and i can see why that would happen =p |
| 00:33.04 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel |
| 00:33.11 | Vulcanus | Xinhuan: Go fex GatherMate_Sharing pleez :p |
| 00:33.12 | Xinhuan | whats the update on the LoD issue? |
| 00:33.20 | Xinhuan | whats broken? |
| 00:33.24 | Vulcanus | libs |
| 00:33.34 | Xinhuan | whats broken about libs? |
| 00:33.42 | Vulcanus | embeds.xml is removed |
| 00:33.45 | Vulcanus | empty* |
| 00:33.49 | Vulcanus | and yes I did try a reinstall |
| 00:34.02 | Vulcanus | Im trying to fix it myself but it seems to be ignoring my copypasted embeds.xml O.o |
| 00:34.22 | Repo | 10minimalist: 03grennon * r75 Minimalist.lua: Minimalist: Fix AutoRepair |
| 00:34.22 | Xinhuan | you probably just need acecomm-3.0 |
| 00:34.55 | Vulcanus | well acecomm isn't included in a fresh install |
| 00:34.57 | Xinhuan | can u poke kagaro about it instead Vulcanus |
| 00:35.06 | Vulcanus | lazy ;p |
| 00:35.16 | Xinhuan | pokes kagaro in the ribs |
| 00:35.26 | kagaro | yo |
| 00:35.43 | Vulcanus | gathermate_sharing. fix eet. IT DUN WERK. :p |
| 00:36.36 | Groktar | pokes out kagaro's eyes and roasts them over the fire |
| 00:36.42 | Groktar | offers them to Vulcanus |
| 00:36.45 | Groktar | kabobs? |
| 00:36.47 | Vulcanus | noms |
| 00:37.24 | kagaro | Belazor: what is wrong with it ? |
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| 00:37.35 | Belazor | A fresh reinstall isn't including any libs |
| 00:37.38 | Belazor | embeds.xml is empty |
| 00:37.47 | Belazor | (except for the top definition thing) |
| 00:38.18 | winkiller | wow, second time out of nowhere that autoturnin snatches 60MB ram and drops fps to 5 |
| 00:38.23 | kagaro | Belazor: umm what are you talking about |
| 00:39.10 | Xinhuan | he's saying the download doesn't come with acecomm-3.0 |
| 00:39.10 | Belazor | its what I saw, s'all :p |
| 00:39.12 | Xinhuan | so its broken |
| 00:39.26 | kagaro | Xinhuan: I just pulled it form my prject page i.e. the packed zip and its in there |
| 00:39.40 | Xinhuan | link Belazor |
| 00:39.44 | Belazor | well I installed it from CC and it's what happened :p |
| 00:39.57 | kagaro | Belazor: you grabbed teh nolib version |
| 00:40.03 | fewyn | blame CC then |
| 00:40.07 | kagaro | yes |
| 00:40.10 | Xinhuan | well it could be a case of CC being problematic again ;p |
| 00:40.18 | Belazor | I blame kaelten, but he's at blizzcon atm |
| 00:40.19 | fewyn | well nolib is listed at the top |
| 00:40.22 | fewyn | which is the problem |
| 00:40.23 | kagaro | well blame the packager for making the nolib version the default |
| 00:40.23 | Belazor | don't matter as I fixed it locally, just thought it was a problem for everybody ;p |
| 00:41.09 | kagaro | I think there is a ticket open already for it |
| 00:41.17 | kagaro | in fact I kow there is since I opened one |
| 00:41.30 | fewyn | so you can't even upload files to a project until it's approved? uguuu~ |
| 00:42.49 | Arrowmaster | fewyn: you can |
| 00:42.51 | Repo | 10lib-spell: 0301satkins * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 00:42.52 | Repo | initial commit, files not ready for use, but is_word function complete (roughly) |
| 00:43.03 | fewyn | it can't find a spot to do it |
| 00:43.06 | fewyn | at least not on wowace |
| 00:43.11 | Arrowmaster | eww a dash |
| 00:43.11 | |Yssaril| | fewyn: you can't upload files directly to wowace |
| 00:43.20 | |Yssaril| | fewyn: use svn/git or hg |
| 00:43.29 | fewyn | hmmm |
| 00:43.42 | stew_a | whats wrong with my dash |
| 00:43.52 | kagaro | Xinhuan: go make tag already for handynotes |
| 00:43.56 | Arrowmaster | no other libs use dashes like that |
| 00:44.15 | Xinhuan | can't really do that yet until the astrolabe |
| 00:44.17 | Xinhuan | is updated |
| 00:44.28 | stew_a | meh it doesnt package with a dash anyway |
| 00:44.28 | Arrowmaster | and libs should have the major version number in the project name |
| 00:44.35 | fewyn | hmmm... but my repo page doesn't have a link to the svn |
| 00:44.41 | kagaro | taggin it will make it work for the live patch on tuesday |
| 00:44.48 | Arrowmaster | stew_a: exactly, we were keeping library names consistant |
| 00:44.58 | kagaro | astrolabe is only gona need the update for wrath release |
| 00:45.04 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: wherent you gonna rewrite astrolabe a while back (several months back)? |
| 00:45.09 | Xinhuan | no |
| 00:45.24 | Xinhuan | kagaro: then why does handynotes need fixing in live? |
| 00:45.44 | kagaro | next weeks patch will kill the dropdowns due to api changes |
| 00:45.58 | Xinhuan | but next week's changes aren't live today? |
| 00:46.01 | Xinhuan | i'm not understanding ~_~ |
| 00:46.19 | kagaro | shrug people dooing last minute tesitng on ptr were having issues |
| 00:46.40 | kagaro | the revision I checked in works on live and ptr |
| 00:50.28 | fewyn | hmmm is there a guide to svn and using it with wowace? |
| 00:51.12 | grennon | svn is half of it, the other half is setting up your windows box like a unix admin's :-) |
| 00:51.18 | fewyn | =p |
| 00:51.20 | grennon | with ssh keys and an agent |
| 00:51.30 | fewyn | i've already got everything setup, i just don't know where things go |
| 00:52.15 | Yssaril | fewyn: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/repository-faq/ |
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| 00:53.18 | NightHawkTheSane | grr. qwest is -really- pissing me off lately |
| 00:58.25 | Repo | 10quickenchant: 03fewyn * r2 / (2 files in 1 directory): Initial Commit |
| 00:59.46 | Repo | 10quickenchant: 03fewyn 04v1.0 * r3 : Tagging as v1.0 |
| 01:00.08 | fewyn | awesome |
| 01:00.09 | fewyn | it worked |
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| 01:05.19 | fewyn | and yay my eyebrow is twitching |
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| 01:13.56 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r20 / (4 files in 3 directories): |
| 01:13.57 | Repo | Start of beta builds. Fix frames module, enabled the deDE localization for chatlinks. |
| 01:14.20 | KriLL3 | anyone knows of a way to move the gm ticket? it's on top of my buffs |
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| 01:17.38 | sylvanaar | i didnt even know it was still supported |
| 01:17.58 | sylvanaar | yeah, i scrolled up |
| 01:18.59 | jygga | can somebody help me with this error? http://www.pastey.net/98057 keeps popping up seemingly at random, some logon its there, some its not, when it is waypoints barf |
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| 01:22.44 | Trela | Does any one know if changing the name of a project through http://www.wowace.com/projects/projectname/edit/ changes the repository name and other associated project stuff as well? |
| 01:23.24 | sylvanaar | Just the name ie: Title |
| 01:24.07 | sylvanaar | i dont think you can change the other "short" name once you create it |
| 01:24.24 | Trela | I might as well delete and restart with a new name. |
| 01:24.53 | Trela | I have a naming conflict with another project even though it is a dead project. |
| 01:24.57 | sylvanaar | that name is just an ID |
| 01:25.29 | sylvanaar | the short one...the one you cant change |
| 01:26.18 | KriLL3 | odd, just won EOTS and daily didn't complete |
| 01:26.35 | sylvanaar | ive never completed the wintergrasp daily |
| 01:26.35 | Trela | Either way, it will be odd to keep updating so soon after release. |
| 01:27.27 | sylvanaar | the name you can change is the display name - thats it |
| 01:28.07 | Trela | I understand that. :D |
| 01:28.07 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 01:28.07 | Pneumatus | ckk etc can change the shortname tho, i believe |
| 01:28.52 | Trela | Eh, I will go around and stomp over the old project. |
| 01:30.22 | sylvanaar | probably |
| 01:31.18 | KriLL3 | sylvanaar: just odd since it's never failed to complete the quest before, might have been because I was the one that capped the last flag that made us win, perhaps it didn't register we had 2000, went from 1950~ to win with that flag |
| 01:31.36 | Repo | 10cleanminimap: 03Azxiana * r14 / (2 files in 1 directory): New round clean options. |
| 01:31.54 | Repo | 10cleanminimap: 03Azxiana 041.2 Release * r15 : Tagging as 1.2 Release. |
| 01:32.43 | Trela | loves all over the Repo man again! |
| 01:34.07 | KriLL3 | anyone knows of a way to move the gm ticket? it's on top of my buffs |
| 01:34.57 | Thi3f | Is it me going crazy, or is the outside left settings for text in pitbull slightly different than outside right? |
| 01:35.12 | stew_a | well its called the TicketStatusFrame if you want to reset its points KruLL3 |
| 01:35.37 | KriLL3 | stew_a: ? |
| 01:36.30 | Thi3f | Vertically that is |
| 01:36.54 | KriLL3 | what? |
| 01:37.15 | stew_a | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:37.48 | KriLL3 | is there a way to see the ticket without disturbing a GM? |
| 01:38.09 | Arrowmaster | Trela: any moderator can change the short name on a project |
| 01:38.31 | Trela | TicketStatusFrame:Show() I would assume. |
| 01:38.48 | Trela | Arrow, I will see about thinking of a name and then ask around. :D |
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| 01:49.01 | sylvanaar | so much fail... |
| 01:50.13 | sylvanaar | for whatever reason clicking on the popupmessage config in prat locks up the game. makes no sense |
| 01:51.25 | Trela | Prat 3.0? |
| 01:51.31 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 01:51.38 | fewyn | sigh |
| 01:51.43 | fewyn | evil beta servers crashing |
| 01:52.03 | Trela | will try! |
| 01:52.38 | waallen | Is there a particular reason for which Prat doesn't add timestamps to the combatlog? |
| 01:53.03 | Groktar | aosudflkajdfl |
| 01:53.06 | Groktar | i got a jury summons |
| 01:53.06 | Spennig | Sylvanaar: I was curious if you thought you'd have the WIM compatability bug ironed out for the 3.0 release? |
| 01:53.17 | Arrowmaster | waallen: because the combatlog already does that |
| 01:54.05 | sylvanaar | Spennig i have worked with pazza on it. it works with wim 3.0 pretty much |
| 01:54.48 | Spennig | Hmm, I couldn't get it working on the live server earlier. WIM crashed out and wouldn't open |
| 01:54.48 | waallen | It doesn't allow custom formatting though and several combatlog addons don't support timestamps themselves, so handling timestamps for the combatlog by Prat would come in pretty handy I guess |
| 01:54.54 | grennon | the invisible meteors on captain skyshatter are still annoying |
| 01:55.17 | Arrowmaster | waallen: the combatlog does support custom formatting |
| 01:55.37 | Arrowmaster | and any combatlog addon that doesnt completely replace Blizzard_CombatLog will work with it |
| 01:55.42 | sylvanaar | prat cant stamp your combatlogs because it does not know the time |
| 01:56.28 | KriLL3 | grennon: I suck at that stuff and I made it on the second try, just stick really close, either above or bellow |
| 01:56.42 | Arrowmaster | and afaik theres no combatlog addon that replaces Blizzard_CombatLog |
| 01:56.43 | waallen | I use this format %H%M.%S in Prat's windows and I can't set that for the Blizzard CombatLog. What I meant is that if you are for example using hitsmode and it's displaying its stuff to the CombatLog frame, you won't be printing Blizzard CombatLog's lines so they will be timestampsless |
| 01:56.44 | KriLL3 | if you keep failing get a pala to party up with you |
| 01:57.09 | KriLL3 | waallen: prat doesn't interact with the combat log |
| 01:57.23 | grennon | KriLL3: doesnt work, in front or above you still get hit by invisble meteors |
| 01:57.24 | Arrowmaster | waallen: talk to the hitsmode dev, timestamping of combatlog messages is ment to be handled by the combatlog addon only |
| 01:57.29 | grennon | KriLL3: you were just lucky |
| 01:57.30 | waallen | KriLL3: yes, I was just wondering why |
| 01:57.41 | KriLL3 | grennon: I remained above him and didn't get hit once |
| 01:57.41 | sylvanaar | ever since they made it able to replay itself into the frame, timestamping became useless |
| 01:57.51 | KriLL3 | all his attacks are aimed in a cone behind |
| 01:57.58 | grennon | KriLL3: and your experience is not representative |
| 01:58.01 | waallen | Arrowmaster: yup, I've made a ticket for that |
| 01:58.04 | KriLL3 | remain straight above and perhaps a bit ahead |
| 01:58.08 | grennon | KriLL3: its called, anecdotal for a reason |
| 01:58.29 | KriLL3 | grennon: comments on various sites seems to agree with me |
| 01:58.32 | sylvanaar | Spennig what/ |
| 01:58.40 | grennon | confirmation bias |
| 01:58.43 | KriLL3 | if you're above + infront you're not hit |
| 01:58.51 | grennon | no |
| 01:59.01 | KriLL3 | or get a pala to help you |
| 01:59.09 | Arrowmaster | grennon: reroll druid |
| 01:59.32 | Arrowmaster | they cant fail |
| 01:59.36 | KriLL3 | Arrowmaster: druids don't have much of an advantage, we loose flightform if hit |
| 01:59.40 | grennon | the least chance of getting hit by the invisible meteors seems to be 90 degrees horizontal actually |
| 01:59.49 | grennon | from the large amount of testing ive been doing |
| 01:59.50 | Arrowmaster | KriLL3: and can shift right back in |
| 01:59.50 | Spennig | sylvanaar: I'm trying to see if i can find an error log, or I'll work to recreate it for you. |
| 01:59.51 | sylvanaar | what - lose flight form |
| 01:59.56 | sylvanaar | W-T-F |
| 02:00.02 | KriLL3 | Arrowmaster: yeah, but you fall behind easily if hit 1-2 times |
| 02:00.11 | KriLL3 | sylvanaar: ? |
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| 02:00.53 | sylvanaar | you must be talking about something and i joined it at a point where it made no sense |
| 02:01.18 | KriLL3 | if you're hit by skyshattered's meteors you're forced out of flightform |
| 02:01.47 | sylvanaar | ok...thats makes more sense |
| 02:02.20 | KriLL3 | Arrowmaster: was all hot and bothered about druids having an unfair advantage |
| 02:02.49 | KriLL3 | I wasn't hit once the time I tried it so it's not really a factor |
| 02:04.23 | sylvanaar | Spennig you are using Wim-3 and the current Prat-3? |
| 02:04.29 | grennon | yeah, just did above and in front, and got hit by invisible meteor yet again |
| 02:04.38 | grennon | several youtube vids show the same thing |
| 02:04.48 | KriLL3 | grennon: invisible meteors? |
| 02:05.03 | sylvanaar | Spennig or are you using the released version of WIM |
| 02:05.15 | grennon | yes |
| 02:05.18 | grennon | its quite common |
| 02:05.21 | KriLL3 | grennon: just get a pala and weave odd patterns |
| 02:05.29 | sylvanaar | if so, prat wont work with it, only wim-3.0 |
| 02:06.35 | sylvanaar | if you have a specific error maybe i can fix it. You might just try removing pratplugin-1.0 |
| 02:07.28 | sylvanaar | what is up with popupmessage for god sake.....client lockup ftl |
| 02:07.29 | Spennig | sylvanaar: I didn't konw there was a WIM 3.0 Oo |
| 02:07.41 | sylvanaar | yeah, its in development too |
| 02:08.10 | Spennig | Is it in dev where I can find it: |
| 02:08.13 | Spennig | ? |
| 02:09.55 | sylvanaar | its on curseforge |
| 02:10.29 | Spennig | hmm. time to hunt >_< |
| 02:11.19 | Spennig | I spent most of the day dumping all my disembedded stuff and switching back to the embedded so I could get the crazy curse client to work right >_< |
| 02:13.18 | sylvanaar | why does popupmessage lock up!!?!? |
| 02:13.39 | Trela | I will install and test! |
| 02:13.43 | Spennig | to annoy you? |
| 02:13.50 | Trela | sylvanaar: 2.4 or 3.0? |
| 02:13.59 | sylvanaar | 3.0 |
| 02:16.17 | grennon | yeah, at one point i switched over my entire guild to using standalone libs with the ace updater, tuesday might be a rough transition |
| 02:17.25 | grennon | i might avoid logging to avoid their questions :-) |
| 02:17.42 | Spennig | I've been thinking the same >_< |
| 02:17.43 | Trela | PopUpMessage does not lock up for me. |
| 02:18.00 | sacarasc | will curse client have the 3.0 branches of stuff on tuesday? |
| 02:19.29 | Gnarfoz | hopefully addon authors will tag those as at least beta until then. |
| 02:19.46 | Gnarfoz | don't get your hopes up though, there's some pretty weird guys out there ;D |
| 02:20.24 | Trela | I did not! |
| 02:20.36 | sacarasc | I can see it all failing (and I get the patch on wednesday, anyway) |
| 02:21.48 | KriLL3 | are we sure about patch next week? |
| 02:22.31 | sacarasc | was confirmed on a forum or something... |
| 02:23.26 | KriLL3 | I sure hope the addon authors out there are ready for it |
| 02:23.36 | KriLL3 | and CC |
| 02:23.48 | EvilJohn | blizzcon pretty much out'd the patch for tuesday |
| 02:23.52 | KriLL3 | would be nice if it swapped your 2.4 addons for their 3.0 branches when the patch hits |
| 02:25.30 | KriLL3 | or will people make their 3.0 branches into the trunk build when the patch hits? |
| 02:28.55 | Spennig | ::blinks a bit:: Hey Sylvanaar... just looked up the WIM 3.0, no files to download. Any suggestions? :-p |
| 02:29.21 | sylvanaar | wait for pazza to release some |
| 02:29.37 | Spennig | Heh, ok |
| 02:29.39 | sylvanaar | the patch is tuesday |
| 02:29.53 | sylvanaar | in the us |
| 02:30.04 | Spennig | yeah, was hoping to test stuff before then, so I can give working suggestions to guildies who use similar mods :) |
| 02:30.05 | sylvanaar | they already said that |
| 02:30.46 | sylvanaar | i think they even said it at blizzcon |
| 02:32.01 | Groktar | casts Jury Summons on sylvanaar |
| 02:32.41 | sylvanaar | what broke popupmessage!>>!>< |
| 02:33.15 | Trela | sylvanaar: PopUpMessage gave me no issues. |
| 02:33.32 | sylvanaar | the config |
| 02:33.40 | sylvanaar | click on the config for it |
| 02:34.30 | KriLL3 | is there a nice up to date list of 3.0 compatible addons? I'm worried I'll have to discard half of mine and hack the others |
| 02:34.45 | Trela | I did. |
| 02:34.53 | sylvanaar | hrm... |
| 02:35.06 | sylvanaar | what are you doing thats different |
| 02:35.34 | sylvanaar | oo |
| 02:35.40 | sylvanaar | are you on mac? |
| 02:35.45 | Trela | Mac. |
| 02:35.51 | sylvanaar | i think i know |
| 02:36.06 | Trela | Magical OS X powers! |
| 02:38.01 | sylvanaar | heh yah |
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| 02:48.18 | sylvanaar | kill me now! it still fails |
| 02:50.06 | Trela | stabbies! |
| 02:51.20 | Zhinjio | Good evening, folks. |
| 02:52.07 | KriLL3 | Good morning |
| 02:52.13 | Spennig | Mewmew |
| 03:21.50 | sylvanaar | the best part is the module works just fine, only the options dont |
| 03:23.22 | sylvanaar | grr nil table no error |
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| 03:25.48 | Spennig | are you testing on PTR or live? |
| 03:26.29 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r21 / (4 files in 3 directories): |
| 03:26.30 | Repo | Make sure that our table we pass for multiselect options is not nil or the client will hang |
| 03:27.04 | sylvanaar | what, beta |
| 03:27.15 | sylvanaar | wotlk beta |
| 03:31.19 | Spennig | Ahh, /jealous |
| 03:32.00 | Spennig | sorry if I'm slow or whatnot, lightning bolt spamming in blood furnace for a guildie. |
| 03:41.31 | quiescens | lightning bolt, lightning bolt |
| 03:42.56 | Spennig | yeah basically. |
| 03:43.12 | Spennig | but it's a step up from trying to DPS on a resto druid |
| 03:43.47 | quiescens | lightning bolt~ |
| 03:44.18 | Spennig | ~~~zap~~~zap~~~ .... rinse lather repeat |
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| 04:01.30 | Wobin | pats the Groktar |
| 04:02.34 | digmouse | g'morning |
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| 04:33.17 | Arrowmaster | grr why the fuck am i cold from having the window open and the fan on but my cpu is still at like 53C |
| 04:33.36 | Arrowmaster | i just completely cleaned out the heatsink and it was running at 45C the other day |
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| 04:34.09 | Trela | Too much pornography! |
| 04:34.36 | Arrowmaster | unlikely |
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| 04:43.39 | quiescens | soak it in water |
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| 05:42.11 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r22 / (4 files in 2 directories): Made hasty changes ill regret later |
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| 06:59.50 | Windcape | hey, the StatBlockCore addon appear in Curse Client, but cannot be installed, nor does it appear on wow.curse.com , looks like some odd bug with the SVN to me ? |
| 07:02.00 | KriLL3 | anyone seen any BC08 caps yet? |
| 07:02.45 | KriLL3 | (dtv/ppv isn't available here btw) |
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| 07:13.50 | Bruners | why is there 4 copies of notepad in windows |
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| 07:15.04 | Bruners | and if you want to replace it you have to change all 4 of them |
| 07:17.39 | Cheads | part of the protected files |
| 07:18.20 | quiescens | windows knows best |
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| 07:38.36 | KriLL3 | why would you replace it? just install your new app and associate it with the files you want it to open |
| 07:39.30 | KriLL3 | you don't install Firefox by renaming it internet explorer.exe and putting it in your system files... |
| 07:40.31 | Bruners | KriLL3: i want it to appear for unknow files aswell |
| 07:40.57 | KriLL3 | you can do that without resorting to those measures |
| 07:41.20 | Bruners | KriLL3: well i replaced it now so its nothing more to think about :) |
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| 07:43.39 | KriLL3 | you just replaced a lightbulb by taking a chainsaw to the floor above the lamp and rotating the section of floor and lamp until it was free of the bulb... |
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| 07:47.23 | Bruners | replacing the 4 files was less work then to change all file associations |
| 07:47.49 | KriLL3 | most apps do that automatically |
| 07:48.08 | KriLL3 | not to mention the potential problems you might get down the road |
| 07:48.18 | Bruners | like what? |
| 07:49.21 | KriLL3 | something in windows might tie into notepad, and when it tries with your executable it throws an error? |
| 07:49.57 | Bruners | KriLL3: nothing is tied to notepad |
| 07:50.17 | Bruners | KriLL3: and notepad++ can handle everything that you toss it |
| 07:50.50 | KriLL3 | notepad++ also has the option of associating with all files it opens on install... |
| 07:51.20 | Bruners | KriLL3: yes and that still doesnt work 100% |
| 07:51.21 | KriLL3 | and the added rightclick option of "edit in notepad++" in explorer |
| 07:51.29 | KriLL3 | does for me |
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| 08:06.39 | orionshock | anyone know who torhal is on the forums? |
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| 08:10.30 | Repo | Use a custom onupdate for the flashing instead of aceevent/timer. |
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| 08:37.33 | Fisker- | destroys Stanzilla |
| 08:37.39 | Stanzilla | ohnoes |
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| 08:39.21 | Fisker- | i r winrar |
| 08:39.42 | Stanzilla | poor shareware :( |
| 08:40.35 | Fisker- | cuts up Stanzilla |
| 08:41.10 | Stanzilla | puts Fisker- back into his cage. |
| 08:41.18 | Fisker- | >:E |
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| 08:46.17 | nevcairiel | morning |
| 08:47.01 | [SW]Dodge | g'morning |
| 08:47.42 | syeren | Wednesday :< |
| 08:47.48 | syeren | Not looking forward to updating addons :< |
| 08:48.36 | Adirelle | g'morning |
| 08:49.06 | Stanzilla | morning |
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| 08:53.09 | syeren | Hmm. |
| 08:53.14 | syeren | A good start with Curse Client! |
| 08:53.14 | syeren | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11147-4.html |
| 08:53.21 | syeren | Welcome to the Curse Client Premium Preview! |
| 08:53.28 | syeren | Remember though this is a LIMITED Preview, and will be ending on the 6th of October. |
| 08:53.57 | nevcairiel | ~date |
| 08:53.58 | purl | It is now 2008.10.12 8:53:58 GMT |
| 08:54.01 | nevcairiel | oh well! |
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| 08:59.25 | Bruners | syeren: was there a connection with the link and the curse client? |
| 08:59.43 | syeren | No, just a miss-paste. |
| 09:01.25 | syeren | Sweet, I click "Learn more about premium", and it just puts me on curse.com |
| 09:01.27 | syeren | Sigh >_> |
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| 09:02.01 | [SW]Dodge | syeren: http://www.curse.com/content/PremiumFAQ.aspx |
| 09:02.10 | syeren | Thanks. |
| 09:02.33 | [SW]Dodge | syeren: np :) |
| 09:02.47 | syeren | Haha |
| 09:02.47 | syeren | 4) Support Curse. Premium allows Curse to continually build new features for the website. |
| 09:02.50 | syeren | How is that a feature? |
| 09:02.55 | syeren | When they have the backers they do -_- |
| 09:03.26 | syeren | "Unique color border for avatars" |
| 09:03.36 | syeren | How about the option to disable orange on the Curse site :< |
| 09:03.44 | [SW]Dodge | lol :D |
| 09:04.08 | nevcairiel | you're just a orange hater! |
| 09:04.18 | syeren | I don't mind orange, if it's used well. |
| 09:04.21 | syeren | http://zomganime.com |
| 09:04.26 | syeren | Is a decent use of orange. |
| 09:04.29 | Bruners | i like orange on black |
| 09:04.39 | syeren | Curse however is not. |
| 09:04.39 | nevcairiel | thats gay-red, not orange, haha |
| 09:04.55 | syeren | nevcairiel: http://www.zomgforums.com/ |
| 09:05.10 | nevcairiel | thats orange =P |
| 09:05.32 | nevcairiel | the design looks weird though |
| 09:05.39 | nevcairiel | with the full width header and the fixed width forums |
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| 09:08.26 | Bruners | fixed width sucks |
| 09:08.33 | syeren | I like it as a designer. |
| 09:08.39 | syeren | Allows you to do make prettier things by far ;p |
| 09:08.46 | syeren | nevcairiel: http://www.xdesignss.com/ |
| 09:08.50 | syeren | Decent use of orange ! |
| 09:08.53 | syeren | But expected. |
| 09:09.09 | nevcairiel | that layout sucks, too |
| 09:09.16 | nevcairiel | fixed with but not centered |
| 09:09.26 | nevcairiel | so i have a big area empty only on the right side |
| 09:09.27 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 09:10.57 | syeren | Doesn't matter, it's a portfolio :p |
| 09:11.01 | syeren | Better than fucking 2advanced |
| 09:11.08 | syeren | But my favourite website ever is ermm |
| 09:11.09 | syeren | http://shadowness3.com/ |
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| 09:11.44 | Bruners | and that doesnt have fixed width! |
| 09:11.44 | nevcairiel | the header seems too empty |
| 09:11.54 | nevcairiel | the top left of the header needs something |
| 09:11.56 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 09:12.00 | syeren | It used to have :p |
| 09:12.06 | syeren | But that's not the live version anymoe. |
| 09:12.12 | syeren | Was just put up for archive reasons :( |
| 09:13.01 | Bruners | i general i dont like flash pages |
| 09:13.03 | syeren | It also didn't used to be anywhere near that width :< |
| 09:13.13 | syeren | That's barely flash, but I don't really like them much either. |
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| 09:14.39 | syeren | http://digitalabstracts.com/ |
| 09:14.42 | syeren | Pretty ! |
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| 09:15.15 | nevcairiel | the header doesnt seem centered, somehow itches my sense of symetry |
| 09:16.32 | Navv_ | what's the most usable windows git client out there? |
| 09:17.10 | syeren | You're not supposed to have a centered subject in Art ;) |
| 09:17.10 | nevcairiel | command line from msysgit =P |
| 09:17.12 | syeren | ! |
| 09:17.28 | syeren | But it normally doesn't have a header, must have been some contest winner. |
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| 09:17.40 | nevcairiel | syeren: different width of black bars on each side just seem wrong :) |
| 09:18.14 | nevcairiel | I'm not speaking of a centered subject within the image |
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| 09:21.07 | Tornhoof | navv, there is no tortoise-style or even wincvs style git client for windows afaik |
| 09:21.37 | Navv_ | mmh, okay |
| 09:21.42 | Navv_ | this msysgit seems to be fine |
| 09:22.10 | Tornhoof | actually windows is quite undersupported for git |
| 09:22.20 | Navv_ | that is what i gathered from some googling |
| 09:22.28 | nevcairiel | the command line works good enough |
| 09:22.40 | nevcairiel | if you want 100%, install cygwin |
| 09:22.54 | jygga | can somebody help me with this error? http://www.pastey.net/98057 keeps popping up seemingly at random, some logon its there, some its not, when it is waypoints barf |
| 09:23.29 | nevcairiel | jygga: i think that always happens when you relog/reload while you still have a waypoint up |
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| 09:23.42 | nevcairiel | but i wouldnt hold my breath for a fix |
| 09:24.19 | nevcairiel | use TomTom imho |
| 09:24.44 | jygga | but since i got carto its so convenient to use that module 8/ |
| 09:24.53 | nevcairiel | cladhaire is there a stable Astrolabe for 3.0 yet? |
| 09:25.26 | cladhaire | yes |
| 09:25.56 | cladhaire | http://svn.esamynn.org/astrolabe/branches/wotlk_data_temp/ |
| 09:25.59 | Bruners | jygga: what is warmup ? |
| 09:26.08 | cladhaire | you can drop Astrolabe.lua in the libs directory for TomTom |
| 09:26.17 | nevcairiel | I guess we'll see that in trunk come 3.0 release |
| 09:26.20 | cladhaire | people have been testing it |
| 09:26.21 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 09:26.53 | jygga | tracks loadtime of addons |
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| 09:28.54 | cladhaire | Bruners: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4939-Warmup.html |
| 09:29.03 | Thaoky | good morning |
| 09:29.04 | nevcairiel | warmup is still around? |
| 09:29.11 | cladhaire | it never went anywhere nevcairiel |
| 09:29.26 | Fisker- | pushes nevcairiel off a cliff >:3 |
| 09:29.28 | nevcairiel | updated 2006, thats not "around" =) |
| 09:29.41 | cladhaire | why not? |
| 09:29.43 | cladhaire | still works :P |
| 09:31.48 | Tornhoof | what is astrolabe? |
| 09:32.56 | EthanCentaurai | ~wiki Astrolabe |
| 09:33.24 | syeren | Need MacTotemTimers updated for 3.0 :( |
| 09:33.47 | Bruners | cladhaire: how do you use it really? |
| 09:34.24 | Bruners | doesnt show anything in combatlog and is always disabled |
| 09:35.07 | cladhaire | Bruners: type /warmup |
| 09:35.11 | cladhaire | it disables itself. |
| 09:35.15 | cladhaire | cause it slows down load times |
| 09:35.16 | cladhaire | run it once |
| 09:35.19 | cladhaire | type /warmup |
| 09:35.20 | cladhaire | read the results. |
| 09:35.23 | cladhaire | profit! |
| 09:35.29 | cladhaire | Tornhoof: map library for wow |
| 09:35.34 | cladhaire | used in TomTom, Gatherer |
| 09:36.34 | nevcairiel | HandyNotes! |
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| 09:37.23 | syeren | Tornhoof, I believe you make a totem addon right? |
| 09:37.27 | Tornhoof | yes |
| 09:37.32 | nevcairiel | which needs to update to use the -0.4 .. its using the -0.4-NC right now, which wont get updates for wotlk i assume =P |
| 09:37.51 | syeren | Tornhoof, does it have the features that http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9080-MacTotemTimer.html has? |
| 09:38.07 | syeren | I pretty much suggested 70% of it's features, so I'm rather fond of it. |
| 09:39.20 | Bruners | hmm, so baggins adds one whole second to loading time |
| 09:39.52 | Tornhoof | i dunno syeren, yata is more about the bar than the timers ;) |
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| 09:41.00 | syeren | :< |
| 09:42.06 | Tornhoof | it has no announce in sct or similar for example |
| 09:42.52 | Thaoky | is there a curse/wowace admin around please ? |
| 09:42.55 | syeren | All I want is skinnable totem buttons where I can decide what font, what color the font is, and where the text is :p |
| 09:43.12 | nevcairiel | Thaoky: what do you need? |
| 09:43.29 | Thaoky | I have an issue with my addon's page on curse, can't update it |
| 09:43.58 | Thaoky | I don't even see my project on curseforge, although the addon's page appears on curse |
| 09:44.04 | Tornhoof | you mean you want skinnable totem timer buttons ;) |
| 09:44.08 | nevcairiel | whats the name? |
| 09:44.12 | Thaoky | Altoholic |
| 09:44.25 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowace.com/projects/altoholic/ |
| 09:44.27 | nevcairiel | its there :P |
| 09:45.08 | Thaoky | yup, the page is, but I can't update the file (I want to avoid updating via svn before Tuesday) |
| 09:45.31 | nevcairiel | oh yeah you cannot manually upload files to wowace |
| 09:45.33 | nevcairiel | only with svn |
| 09:46.07 | Tornhoof | make a branch for your wotlk version ;) |
| 09:46.11 | Tornhoof | and tag that branch |
| 09:46.25 | Thaoky | fine for wowace, but is that supposed to impact curse as well ? isn't it possible to manually upload to curse anymore ? |
| 09:46.39 | nevcairiel | not if your project is on wowace |
| 09:46.51 | Thaoky | crap xD |
| 09:47.09 | Thaoky | what are the restrictions if I want to upload on curse ? different names or something ? |
| 09:47.23 | Thaoky | I mean, I don't want users to see betas on curse |
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| 09:48.18 | Bruners | Thaoky: you set that up at cursforge i believe, if you want it to publish beta or only release |
| 09:48.25 | Bruners | or both |
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| 09:48.58 | Thaoky | ok, I'll recreate the project on CF then, I guess that's the issue, it probably disappeared when the merge happened |
| 09:49.16 | nevcairiel | you should not have the project on both CF and wowace |
| 09:49.21 | nevcairiel | they share one database with curse |
| 09:49.46 | Thaoky | that's what I guessed, but then I assume I should be able to see my project on CF too |
| 09:50.12 | nevcairiel | nah they only show on one page, and since you had your svn on wowace the project got moved here |
| 09:50.32 | nevcairiel | i can move your complete project to CF if you want, you can upload files manually then |
| 09:52.29 | Thaoky | if that is not too much work, then I'd appreciate it :) |
| 09:52.53 | Bruners | cladhaire: most garbage means what in warmup ? |
| 09:52.57 | nevcairiel | done |
| 09:53.02 | nevcairiel | its only a few clicks =P |
| 09:53.08 | Thaoky | thx ^^ |
| 09:53.43 | Thaoky | just a question to be sure |
| 09:54.04 | cladhaire | Bruners: it means that that addon created the most garbage while loading.. which could just be libraries that weren't initialized.. etc. |
| 09:54.15 | dafire | hmmm.. does anybody has a lua script that orders lists in a lua saved variables file ? :) |
| 09:54.18 | cladhaire | thats all it means, interpreting the results is up to you :P |
| 09:54.25 | cladhaire | dafire: what do you mean? |
| 09:54.42 | Thaoky | nev: since there are now two projects (wowace+cf), which of these will be reflected on curse ? (presumably CF's) |
| 09:55.04 | dafire | cladhaire: i thought about adding some sv to a git repository.. but i think the order of elements change randomly ... so you can't see differences well .9 |
| 09:55.07 | Bruners | cladhaire: was just fuzzed about ratingbuster having most garbage :P (3486KiB) |
| 09:55.11 | nevcairiel | Thaoky: i said "move to CF" which means wowace vanishes and you only have CF :P |
| 09:55.22 | Thaoky | oh great :) |
| 09:55.58 | cladhaire | dafire: Do they change, or are they alphabetic? |
| 09:56.03 | Thaoky | and I can still use svn as a normal rep right ? |
| 09:56.08 | cladhaire | dafire: either way, you could re-serialize them in alphabetical order |
| 09:56.16 | cladhaire | I have to normalize the api compare tables I generate |
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| 09:57.01 | dafire | last time i tried this with svn is long time ago and i stoped it because always all sv changed on every relog .9 I'll check .9 |
| 09:57.12 | cladhaire | well they may still |
| 09:57.29 | cladhaire | so you run a script on them before you commit them |
| 09:57.35 | cladhaire | to make them diff-able :P |
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| 09:57.50 | dafire | yes.. now with using os-x it's easier then with windows .9 |
| 10:00.35 | Bruners | cladhaire: so with running disembedded libs i woudl get less garbage? |
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| 10:00.46 | cladhaire | Bruners: yes, but that pretty much mea ns nothing |
| 10:00.52 | cladhaire | the gains you would have from that are negligable |
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| 10:08.10 | Repo | 10baggins: 03Swix * r403 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added ruRU locale |
| 10:09.17 | Bruners | cladhaire: it says 4.8 sec for warmups garbage collection |
| 10:09.40 | cladhaire | yes... |
| 10:09.47 | cladhaire | and not all of that is from disembedded libraries |
| 10:09.58 | cladhaire | err embedded libraries |
| 10:10.18 | Repo | 10baggins_closet-gnome: 03Swix * r36 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added ruRU locale |
| 10:10.26 | nevcairiel | translations also play some role, alot of string garbage |
| 10:11.04 | Thaoky | nev: everything is now as I wanted, /bow /kiss /thanks :) |
| 10:11.43 | cladhaire | and any intermediate tables |
| 10:11.47 | cladhaire | of which there tend to be a few :P |
| 10:13.06 | Stanzilla | Shefki: ping |
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| 10:33.21 | [SW]Dodge | ~api UnitClassBase |
| 10:33.22 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitClassBase |
| 10:33.57 | [SW]Dodge | mhm |
| 10:34.22 | [SW]Dodge | seems to come from DogTag then o.o |
| 10:35.02 | [SW]Dodge | hmm wowprogramming.com has this function... *confused* |
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| 10:35.59 | EthanCentaurai | is it a beta function? |
| 10:36.04 | [SW]Dodge | no |
| 10:36.35 | [SW]Dodge | dogtag is using this function allready on live |
| 10:36.41 | Nargiddley | UnitClass and UnitClassBase are the same function in beta for me |
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| 10:38.17 | Srosh | Can someone explain me what the difference in using viewport with or without overlay is? |
| 10:38.41 | [SW]Dodge | Nargiddley: target a mob and try them then. unitclass should return mobname as first value and unitclassbase the "real" class |
| 10:38.58 | Nargiddley | I'll try it |
| 10:39.25 | Nargiddley | yeah thats how its working |
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| 10:40.06 | [SW]Dodge | Srosh: i think with overlay the viewport is not really modified there are just frames that "overlay" the area, and without it really decreases the area to render (which is a huge performance increase!) |
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| 10:40.36 | Srosh | Ok, thanks. |
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| 10:42.23 | Repo | 10yata: 03Tornhoof 07wotlk * r47 / (2 files in 1 directory): Further work on the totemsets |
| 10:42.48 | [SW]Dodge | i play at 1280*1024 in maximised window with 1180*705 rendered area and so i have 3times more fps :D |
| 10:43.51 | Srosh | Nice. |
| 10:44.05 | [SW]Dodge | even in raid and shatt :D |
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| 10:47.30 | Matrix110| | Srosh buy a new PC if you QQ about FPS |
| 10:47.35 | Matrix110| | I dont want you lagging in SWP |
| 10:47.59 | harl | -.- |
| 10:48.00 | Bruners | my frames still drop when there is mass aoe |
| 10:48.01 | Srosh | Nah, FPS is fine, was just wondering about the effect of that option - because it didn't seem to do anything. |
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| 10:48.08 | Matrix110| | ah |
| 10:48.14 | Matrix110| | Viewport fails anyway |
| 10:48.25 | Matrix110| | I rather have the game in the BG than Black :P |
| 10:48.51 | Srosh | No way! Been using it forever. |
| 10:48.53 | harl | you may still use the space outside the viewport area for add-ons |
| 10:49.07 | Matrix110| | I know |
| 10:49.20 | Matrix110| | But as I said I like having the game in the BG of my raid/party/chat frame(s) |
| 10:49.32 | Srosh | I can't see that behind my action bars and chat anyway, so it's nice to still have my character model be in the middle of the viewable screen. |
| 10:49.39 | Srosh | That's what I'm using viewport for. |
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| 10:49.42 | Diskmaster | Anyone in here know why wowwiki's patch mirrors page is listing redundant patch information? (They list three parts to the preload, but the torrent files are inclusive.) |
| 10:50.07 | Uhuru | curse updater suck a lot please give us wau back ! |
| 10:50.23 | Bruners | it works fine here |
| 10:50.31 | Bruners | after i reinstalled all addons with it |
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| 10:50.34 | Matrix110| | Diskmaster iam not exactly sure what you mean but my guess is that Wowwiki updated when each part got available :P |
| 10:50.38 | harl | I hereby /sign Uhuru's request. |
| 10:51.03 | Uhuru | i don't get the time to update my addons one by one cause i'm not a premium user and i have no money to give to curse |
| 10:51.15 | Diskmaster | Rather, I mean the torrent links, I can understand the specific file mirrors, but the torrents for Parts 1 and 2 of the 3.0.x preloads are redundant. O_o |
| 10:51.31 | Diskmaster | I guess I wasn't very clear at first |
| 10:51.32 | Matrix110| | oh |
| 10:51.45 | Uhuru | and the addons and libraries on curse are not up to date |
| 10:51.48 | Matrix110| | Hmm I guess the ones that updated the later ones didnt remove the previous ones :D |
| 10:52.29 | Matrix110| | and the first that uploaded said its Part 1 (with 2 files already) and the next one though Oh mine contains 2 files I name it Part 2 |
| 10:52.41 | Uhuru | you can't update all your addons with one click with curseupdater if you're not a premium user, wtf |
| 10:52.55 | Matrix110| | Uhuru welcome to 2month ago |
| 10:52.57 | Bruners | Uhuru: cant you just select all addons and push update? |
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| 10:53.15 | Uhuru | Bruners no it works only if your a premium user |
| 10:53.28 | Uhuru | and you must pay to be a premium user |
| 10:53.38 | Matrix110| | or be a AddOn author |
| 10:53.39 | [SW]Dodge | Bruners: i tried to select 3 addons and then hit "Update" and it FAILS with a crahs :D |
| 10:53.44 | harl | well, why not give wau a bit of update to make it work with the new thing. it's not as if it wasn't possible at all. |
| 10:54.29 | Matrix110| | WAU has flaws that cost hundreds of dollar each month |
| 10:54.31 | Uhuru | you must click on each add on one by one and click update for each |
| 10:54.38 | Uhuru | i don't get this patience |
| 10:55.17 | Matrix110| | And WAU is written by 2 authors now a 3rd one taking such a complex application over needs a few weeks to understand the original program first before rewriting it.. |
| 10:56.31 | harl | so wau's flaws will be corrected to have it back working in "a few weeks"? |
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| 10:56.38 | winkiller | *months |
| 10:56.47 | Matrix110| | harl thats not possible |
| 10:56.57 | Matrix110| | for WAU to be fixed they would need to change the whole web backend |
| 10:57.06 | winkiller | http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000017.html |
| 10:57.13 | Matrix110| | and as they already have the Curseforge software why not use it |
| 10:58.00 | Matrix110| | And for the Dev of the Curse Updater its WAY easier to write his own application than trying to figure out WAU |
| 10:59.49 | EthanCentaurai | meh I don't use these updater programs anyway... WAU has a massive memory leak problem and CC isn't making me Premium even though I am an author... I'm much happier receiving e-mails and downloading/extracting .zips manually :) |
| 10:59.50 | [SW]Dodge | WAU "could" be easiely updated to work with new wowace/curseforge |
| 11:00.00 | vithos | i think you're missing the point... the curse client is meant to be annoying if you don't pay for the premium mode. the people who would have your money don't want there to be a non-annoying free alternative. |
| 11:00.40 | sylvanaar | you know, I havent even tried to update my addons yet |
| 11:00.47 | Matrix110| | thats another point vithos |
| 11:00.58 | Matrix110| | sylvanaar be glad :P |
| 11:01.17 | [SW]Dodge | and imo is $19,99 per year not much |
| 11:01.21 | Matrix110| | Curse Client is currently a total mess today it updated about 25 AddOns with changes made back in August |
| 11:02.03 | harl | that's why i won't use it. |
| 11:02.19 | vithos | i just gave CC 2.0.0.13 another try, now my Combuctor install is broken, and setting it to "do not update" and updating from WoWInterface like i did before didn't fix it. |
| 11:02.26 | sylvanaar | if it'd still work id tell you guys to get one of the early wau releases from right after PProvost wrote it |
| 11:02.32 | sylvanaar | to see what it was like |
| 11:02.47 | Matrix110| | sylvanaar they were better than the Curse Client :P |
| 11:02.52 | Matrix110| | Ive used every version :D |
| 11:03.41 | sylvanaar | yeah, im just saying...for making a fair comparison |
| 11:04.00 | harl | 20 bucks a year for this, 20 bucks a year for that, montly or annual fees for a bunch of things and i'm a poor man with no money left to save. |
| 11:04.05 | harl | thank, but thanks no then. |
| 11:04.09 | harl | *thanks |
| 11:04.31 | sylvanaar | hey i got 20 bucks as a donation the other day. my first one ever |
| 11:05.12 | sylvanaar | lol, it was sorta neat |
| 11:05.35 | Bruners | you could also set up jwu or wuu to update your addons |
| 11:05.47 | Bruners | or even wowmatrix |
| 11:06.16 | Matrix110| | Yes updating the updater everytime before you update is the way to go :D |
| 11:06.21 | harl | how so |
| 11:06.35 | sylvanaar | what? |
| 11:07.18 | harl | manually adding the sources every time? wouldn't it then be easier to just download them without the updater? |
| 11:07.32 | sylvanaar | oh i see |
| 11:07.34 | Bruners | you do it once and it works |
| 11:08.00 | Matrix110| | harl no its just that Curse/Wowi change the way the addons are stored/Dled every now and then and then the updater needs a update |
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| 11:08.13 | Matrix110| | and when the Curse Client is working you can be sure that this happens frequently on Curse :P |
| 11:08.17 | vithos | Bruners: the only problem with that is, does it know which zip to choose when there's multiple ones available? |
| 11:08.44 | Cheads | it will just take the newest (atleast jwu) |
| 11:08.52 | Bruners | vithos: doubt it, but that should really be fixed on the curse page |
| 11:09.05 | vithos | i mean, what if there's a nolib zip and a normal zip |
| 11:09.08 | vithos | for the same version |
| 11:09.30 | sylvanaar | you know using those will just make them more vigalent about allowing that type of updating |
| 11:09.58 | Bruners | sylvanaar: as long as you can download from their webpage without the client you can use another updater |
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| 11:10.10 | sylvanaar | i know |
| 11:10.26 | Matrix110| | Bruners nope |
| 11:10.27 | sylvanaar | im just saying - dont try to convert the whole world to doing that |
| 11:10.33 | Matrix110| | imagine a captcha for every DL :P |
| 11:10.39 | vithos | tbh i'd rather have to type a captcha for every addon update than use CC at this point. |
| 11:10.45 | harl | Matrix110|: i don't see that as a problem at all. the only two problem I see with curse is 1/ that it needs to be payed for to be used in full bliss *cough* and 2/ that it (for now?) updates to older versions and sometimes even different add-ons because it misses a unique structure to merge the sites. |
| 11:11.29 | Matrix110| | harl if you just leech and dont get why a company needs to earn money you should start thinking a bit |
| 11:11.45 | orionshock | harl: 2) -- there are several admins at Curse, that started at WoWAce, that are cleaning up the curse.com projects and removing the crap old stuff |
| 11:11.46 | Matrix110| | and the updating part should be fixed soon I hope :P |
| 11:11.59 | harl | the company thing is kind of the problem there.. but alright. |
| 11:12.07 | Matrix110| | The crawler script is still importing projects I think |
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| 11:12.32 | Matrix110| | harl you CANT host AddOns for several 100k people for free without LOTS of generous people |
| 11:13.01 | sylvanaar | well..people do need to earn a livelyhood somehow |
| 11:13.03 | orionshock | closest u get is google.com |
| 11:13.16 | orionshock | and ... it would draw alot of attention fast.. |
| 11:13.34 | Matrix110| | orionshock can you even host such a big amount of data on google somewhere? |
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| 11:13.47 | Matrix110| | not sure on the limits from GC etc. |
| 11:14.05 | sylvanaar | i dont think 1600 projects in one repo would work |
| 11:14.14 | orionshock | what you do is offload people on to google code as seperate projects, the authors then post their project details to a central site that the updater pulls from. |
| 11:14.39 | Matrix110| | orionshock but that way Google would prolly notice it fast :P |
| 11:14.42 | sylvanaar | ah sounds like git model |
| 11:14.49 | orionshock | so that central site would register a SVN path or file location for /alpha /beta /release |
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| 11:15.09 | sylvanaar | i see |
| 11:15.12 | Matrix110| | And its not like google is generously giving out Bandwith/server capacity for free |
| 11:15.22 | Matrix110| | there always is a catch :D |
| 11:15.49 | orionshock | Matrix110|: usualy project can't exceed 100mb space on server.. but bandwidth cap.. im not sure of one |
| 11:16.22 | Matrix110| | orionshock I dont think there is one but its not like they wouldnt notice that 1600 projects are linked from a "wowace.com" page :P |
| 11:16.34 | orionshock | meh |
| 11:16.48 | orionshock | TBH the constant update mentality is what killed WAU / Old system |
| 11:16.51 | orionshock | it really did |
| 11:17.01 | Matrix110| | Nah the way it update more or less |
| 11:17.05 | sylvanaar | you know the wowace system was based on an rss feed. you could just rehost the feed and host the addons on individual sites |
| 11:17.06 | Cheads | if they are individual projects, I bet they will just clap their hands for the added attention |
| 11:17.10 | Matrix110| | the amount of data that needed a update is pretty low |
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| 11:17.45 | Matrix110| | If you dl the whole BigWigs project everytime you update it its like Downloading and isntalling a new Windows ISO instead of a 2MB patch :P |
| 11:17.58 | harl | but that's what it did |
| 11:18.00 | orionshock | Matrix110|: u'd be surprised |
| 11:18.11 | Matrix110| | But on the other hand SVN updates which do that use to much CPU power |
| 11:18.21 | sylvanaar | for what its worth, you know there was a bandwidth counter running on the WAU status bar for the past year or so. how much did yours get up to? |
| 11:18.24 | orionshock | the files site averaged 16TB a month.. IIRC |
| 11:18.33 | Matrix110| | sylvanaar ~10gb |
| 11:18.37 | sylvanaar | what? |
| 11:18.43 | sylvanaar | textures |
| 11:18.51 | orionshock | sylvanaar: mine was about 800mb after about 6 months. |
| 11:18.56 | Matrix110| | starting it took alone 4MB :D |
| 11:19.18 | vithos | another solution could have been to make a bittorrent-like distribution system to keep the bandwidth costs down, where everything is signed/verified |
| 11:19.24 | sylvanaar | mine is still at 150MB after a year or more |
| 11:19.30 | Matrix110| | Oo |
| 11:19.35 | harl | and actually, people don't need updates every hour. just make sure add-ons are working and then release it in that state once every week or so. |
| 11:19.58 | sylvanaar | i didnt run it every hour though, every few days tops |
| 11:20.05 | harl | me too |
| 11:20.25 | Matrix110| | Everytime before I Login and everytime I wanted to test a new AddOn |
| 11:20.30 | vithos | wasn't the files.wowace.com index file pretty huge too? i wonder how much that contributed |
| 11:20.43 | sylvanaar | one of the problems was that when kaelten moved the server, the compression on the index got turned off |
| 11:20.51 | vithos | should have used diffs |
| 11:20.58 | Camci | http://www.ripten.com/2008/10/10/wow-whore-has-36-accounts-raids-by-himself/ |
| 11:21.10 | Matrix110| | old |
| 11:21.14 | orionshock | vithos: um.. no, BT is not an option |
| 11:21.16 | Matrix110| | not to mention it doesnt work |
| 11:21.31 | orionshock | and diffs, only work if everyone is on the same page |
| 11:21.44 | sylvanaar | basically, the rss-feed was the simplest method for average case. |
| 11:21.47 | orionshock | IMO we should have been more picky about addons on the SVN and pruned it more. |
| 11:22.00 | sylvanaar | it gave you all the metadata for the zips |
| 11:22.07 | sylvanaar | and where to get them |
| 11:22.35 | cncfanatics | anyone has any experience with luajava ? |
| 11:22.44 | sylvanaar | only fail |
| 11:22.47 | cncfanatics | I can't seem to figure out how to run a lua function in java |
| 11:23.04 | sylvanaar | i tried getting it working once |
| 11:23.21 | vithos | orionshock: why not? i'm not saying it would have been trivial to implement |
| 11:23.38 | orionshock | correct, it's simply not viable to implement |
| 11:23.59 | sylvanaar | basically by the time that needed to be done - wowace was being bought by curse |
| 11:24.04 | orionshock | sylvanaar: if they keep the method with the RSS feed, could they have kept wau alive? |
| 11:24.10 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 11:24.26 | orionshock | jsut post stables to the rss feed, would have been fine. |
| 11:24.30 | sylvanaar | to keep wau working you simply mirror the feed and adjust the links |
| 11:24.32 | orionshock | keep the projects pruned |
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| 11:25.08 | sylvanaar | and of course rehost wau - so it has a trusted distribution point |
| 11:25.10 | vithos | and why wouldn't diffs work? you keep the one huge index file, but you only pull it when the list of recent diffs doesn't go back far enough to incrementally update to the current state |
| 11:25.23 | sylvanaar | its not huge |
| 11:25.37 | sylvanaar | and its in the server cache compressed |
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| 11:26.24 | orionshock | sylvanaar: personally i don't like the .net use.. but meh.. |
| 11:26.29 | sylvanaar | meh |
| 11:26.48 | sylvanaar | .net is so much easier than anything else |
| 11:26.52 | sylvanaar | for me |
| 11:27.04 | nevcairiel | C# is nice and easy to work with anyway |
| 11:27.10 | nevcairiel | unless you are into java *shrug |
| 11:27.12 | sylvanaar | thats what i mean |
| 11:27.55 | Adirelle | cncfanatics: ever tried to call Lua with C bindings ? |
| 11:28.07 | sylvanaar | I was at one point porting WAU to .NET 3.5 / WPF / WCF / WWF as a side thing - didnt get far though |
| 11:28.19 | sylvanaar | its so easy from c |
| 11:28.31 | cncfanatics | Adirelle: no, this is my first experience with the lua bindings at all, and it happens to be in java :p |
| 11:28.42 | vithos | i imagine you could have also saved a lot of bandwidth implementing a simple rsync-like system (i.e. trade the cpu use for disk space use on the server) for the addon updates too. |
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| 11:29.09 | Adirelle | cncfanatics: seems the LuaState class mimics the C api, so you may look at how to call some Lua code from C |
| 11:29.29 | sylvanaar | to call lua from C you just loadstring the call |
| 11:29.36 | sylvanaar | essentially |
| 11:29.49 | cncfanatics | well, my aim is to be able to have a lua file defining some functions |
| 11:29.56 | cncfanatics | and be able to call those functions and get their return value in java |
| 11:30.14 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:30.55 | sylvanaar | yeah, it works the same in java, just additional lameness interacting with the VM |
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| 11:32.02 | sylvanaar | you should ask in #lua |
| 11:32.08 | sylvanaar | you will get 1000 answers |
| 11:32.35 | sylvanaar | neh-ver-mind |
| 11:32.44 | Adirelle | cncfanatics: I'd say push some value on the stack, including the function value, then call LuaState.call or somethig like that |
| 11:34.19 | harl | curse's gotten a big fatty. |
| 11:35.18 | cncfanatics | so, I have a lua object, I do luaObject.push(); Object[] returnVal = luaObject.call(args, 1); |
| 11:35.33 | cncfanatics | how do I get meaningful data out of returnVal ?I know its suposed to be a boolean |
| 11:35.47 | *** mode/#wowace [+b %Repo!*@*] by nevcairiel |
| 11:35.53 | Adirelle | cncfanatics: look at the lua_call example here : http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#3.7 |
| 11:36.28 | cncfanatics | thanks for the tips |
| 11:36.30 | Adirelle | I'd bet you can map it directly to Java using LuaState |
| 11:36.47 | Adirelle | (all that stack stuff remembers me Forth) |
| 11:37.03 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: why? :< |
| 11:37.34 | nevcairiel | to prevent some spam |
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| 11:39.47 | nevcairiel | it still floods out, hah |
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| 11:40.54 | Fisker- | likes nevcairiel |
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| 11:41.47 | Adirelle | thinks Fisker- have equivocal sympathy for flooders. |
| 11:42.32 | Xinhuan | poor bot |
| 11:42.41 | Xinhuan | needs to be fixed ;p |
| 11:43.12 | Fisker- | i r bord btw |
| 11:43.33 | Bruners | not more then me |
| 11:44.05 | nevcairiel | mmm i probably should bump the new lib zips to Beta |
| 11:44.10 | nevcairiel | so the CC picks them up |
| 11:45.57 | dafire | doing the jenkins achievement crashed wow of the whole group .) |
| 11:46.04 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:46.49 | dafire | it took 4 seconds for us 4 :) |
| 11:47.27 | Bruners | is the search on curse loaded from a different db then the usual addons listing? |
| 11:48.01 | sylvanaar | there should be a Java equivalent of lua_genpcal |
| 11:48.08 | sylvanaar | lua_genpcall |
| 11:48.27 | sylvanaar | as in, if there isnt, there should be |
| 11:48.43 | dafire | what does it do ? |
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| 11:49.01 | sylvanaar | you write your bindings using sprintf |
| 11:49.07 | sylvanaar | essentially |
| 11:49.11 | dafire | leroy : http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/2167/bild5na1.png |
| 11:49.37 | sylvanaar | http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaGenericCall |
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| 11:59.27 | Hesselgren | starlon, did you fix your mod? I miss it alot :D |
| 12:01.05 | cnc|food | grrr |
| 12:01.10 | cnc|food | luajava is bloody poorly documented |
| 12:01.11 | Adirelle | remembers his daughter is starving on her baby chair, waiting for her meal to cool down |
| 12:01.11 | Adirelle | afk |
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| 12:13.04 | Adirelle | cnc|food: actually luajava seems to be a more or less direct binding from C API |
| 12:13.25 | cnc|food | call is different it seems |
| 12:13.30 | cnc|food | the arguments it takes are different |
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| 12:16.43 | cnc|food | Adirelle: it seems it pushes things on the stack and retrieves them from the stack for you |
| 12:18.03 | Eimhin | hi everyone. can i ask a few quick questions that have more than likely been asked before? |
| 12:18.17 | Hjalte | ~asktoask |
| 12:18.17 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 12:18.30 | Eimhin | :0 sorry |
| 12:18.50 | Adirelle | cnc|food: what ? LuaState.call(int nArgs, int nResults) |
| 12:18.50 | Adirelle | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:19.16 | Adirelle | larts X-Chat, that does neither show nor remove linebreaks from input |
| 12:19.43 | Eimhin | well basically, the state of CC and external libs is what is confusing me at the moment. |
| 12:20.59 | cnc|food | oh, I get it |
| 12:21.10 | cnc|food | I was using LuaObject.call(Object[] args); |
| 12:21.27 | Eimhin | I would prefer to download the betas from Curseforge rather than the release and im not entirely sure if at the moment its a current or proposed feature for CC. Should i stick to manually scouring the site? |
| 12:22.19 | nevcairiel | CC 2.0.0.14 (the upcoming release) can download Betas |
| 12:22.54 | Eimhin | thank you |
| 12:23.10 | nevcairiel | I think it supposed to be released tomorrow |
| 12:23.13 | nevcairiel | ready for 3.0 |
| 12:24.08 | Tornhoof | nevcairiel what's the proper function to hook for acegui-dropdown to be notified when the selection changes? |
| 12:24.17 | Repo | 10libdebuglog-1-0: 03Adirelle * r18 LibDebugLog-1.0.toc: Updated TOC to 30000. |
| 12:25.25 | Repo | 10libdebuglog-1-0: 03Adirelle 04v1.0.1b * r19 : Tagging as v1.0.1b. |
| 12:26.30 | nevcairiel | OnValueChanged callback? |
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| 12:27.34 | Tornhoof | ah ok, thanks looks like i missed that, i hooked the close event but that was tedious |
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| 12:32.47 | Bruners | is it just me that hates spiral cables ? |
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| 12:41.37 | dafire | when did they change firestone that it works as an temporary weapon enchant ? |
| 12:42.49 | Bruners | dafire: as in it cant be stacked with oils ? |
| 12:43.11 | dafire | i did not try.. but i don't think it can stack with oils |
| 12:43.25 | dafire | it gives 1% damage on direct casts and 35 hit rating |
| 12:44.43 | sb | is there some alternative to "skillet"? |
| 12:45.22 | sb | i need some really good tradeskill window when leveling inscription (~3 days) :o |
| 12:45.34 | Repo | 10classloot: 03Pneumatus * r47 / (10 files in 1 directory): ClassLoot: |
| 12:45.35 | Repo | - Goodbye Ace2, hello Ace3 |
| 12:45.35 | Repo | - Code refactor to pretty things up a bit |
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| 12:47.26 | Camci | anyone know if resillience will still work while leveling ? |
| 12:47.32 | Camci | is it just not gonna work in instances? |
| 12:47.39 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 12:47.40 | Bruners | why wouldnt it? |
| 12:47.45 | Camci | lol? |
| 12:47.49 | Arrowmaster | why would it not work in instances? |
| 12:47.53 | Camci | cuz it wont? |
| 12:47.58 | Camci | they said it looong time ago |
| 12:48.00 | ag` | why shouldn't it? |
| 12:48.10 | Camci | they are making it so it only works in pvp |
| 12:48.13 | Bruners | some new anti pvp thing they are doing? |
| 12:48.24 | Camci | you guys reall haveny heard lol? |
| 12:48.27 | Arrowmaster | do you have a source? |
| 12:48.35 | Camci | err |
| 12:48.35 | Camci | sec |
| 12:49.53 | digmouse | ah woot, the shield that priest in council gives to herself undispelable? |
| 12:50.04 | [dRaCo] | yes, it is |
| 12:50.06 | Pneumatus | yeh |
| 12:50.18 | digmouse | bit complicate |
| 12:50.18 | Camci | just need to find the stupid source... it been a while so its kinda old.... |
| 12:50.27 | Pneumatus | need to earthshock/cs through it when its up, iirc |
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| 12:55.42 | Camci | I cant find the source now its old... but resilience will be useless in instances in WotLK... thought you guys knew :P |
| 12:56.35 | digmouse | when she has reflection shield on her, kick doesnt work and throw works right? |
| 12:56.47 | digmouse | with arena gloves |
| 12:57.36 | Tinyboom | Camci: shouldn't it be in the patch notes then? |
| 12:57.47 | Pneumatus | i couldnt say for sure, but i know we usually have a rogue and a mage/shaman on her |
| 12:58.36 | Pneumatus | the beta patchnotes havnt been touched since alpha ended, they still say the level cap is 77 |
| 12:58.49 | Camci | Tinyboom: I dont know... i read about this in the alpha beta i think |
| 13:00.17 | [SW]Dodge | http://dodgex.servegame.com/ouf_vs_pitbull.jpg :D |
| 13:02.03 | starlon | nice |
| 13:04.42 | Bruners | Camci: untill you show a blue post or a changelog i will continue to think resilience will work |
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| 13:08.06 | Camci | it will work in pvp |
| 13:08.10 | Camci | not dungeons |
| 13:08.33 | EthanCentaurai | doesn't know what to get up to |
| 13:09.37 | Lukian | Camci, 3.0 or WLK? |
| 13:10.00 | Lukian | more so, they were saying they were "supportive of the crossover between pvp and pve gear" |
| 13:10.00 | Camci | WotLK |
| 13:10.06 | Lukian | so why make a stat not work in pve? |
| 13:10.22 | Fisker- | I thought they made resilience pvp only a long time ago |
| 13:10.37 | Lukian | Fisker-, nope, druid tanks have been using for ages |
| 13:10.54 | Lukian | and they are really pushing it on paladins/warriors now too, with the removal of 20 defense from the prot trees :( |
| 13:12.22 | Bruners | Lukian: do paladins/warriors even use those talents much ? |
| 13:12.47 | Lukian | Bruners, as a prot paladin wearing mostly/only "prot paladin gear" (on live), yes. |
| 13:13.07 | Lukian | wearing warrior gear, perhaps I'll actually have enough defense, but I don't have such a set at this point in time |
| 13:13.33 | Bruners | prot paladin gear sucks imo |
| 13:13.55 | Bruners | other for aoe tanking you dont really need that much spell dammage gear |
| 13:14.12 | Lukian | yes, quite a bit of it was badly itemised, but the threat generation was really nice :) |
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| 13:23.11 | digmouse | woot, 5 mins to buff, 10 mins to discuss details, wipe in 1min after pull... |
| 13:23.27 | sacarasc | lol |
| 13:24.12 | digmouse | MT down in 1min |
| 13:24.25 | digmouse | he hits soooo hard |
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| 13:26.48 | sacarasc | who are you fighting? |
| 13:27.34 | Stanzilla | sounds like illidan and shear :P |
| 13:27.55 | Fisker- | One does not simply get shear |
| 13:28.09 | Stanzilla | true |
| 13:30.41 | digmouse | council |
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| 13:31.52 | Bruners | council was for my part a boring fight |
| 13:33.51 | digmouse | and hard for us |
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| 13:39.45 | Bruners | how do you end a duel? |
| 13:40.05 | Arrowmaster | type /yield |
| 13:40.52 | [SW]Dodge | how to disable the "castbar" thing in oUF Layout? |
| 13:41.20 | [SW]Dodge | ah okay nvm, just found it :/ |
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| 13:49.51 | Bruners | what is the purpose of the blank space bar in pitbull ? |
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| 13:51.28 | ag` | some people like wasting space for no reason Bruners :D |
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| 13:52.09 | Adirelle | Bruners: once I reduced my pet frame to its health bar and put it in the empty space of my player frame |
| 13:52.34 | Adirelle | since I put the pet frame out of it... |
| 13:54.07 | [SW]Dodge | ag`: no reason? ;O i have my quarz bar on a blank bar instead of using the PB cast bar ;> |
| 13:54.41 | Gnarfoz | why'd you do that oO |
| 13:54.44 | [SW]Dodge | target uses pb cast bar, but both frames still look same :D |
| 13:55.12 | Gnarfoz | obviously, but *why* |
| 13:55.48 | Bruners | why not use the built in castbar? |
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| 13:56.30 | [SW]Dodge | Bruners: quartz has the lag identicator (or however it is called) |
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| 13:57.29 | [SW]Dodge | but well, i'm going to drop pitbull :) |
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| 13:58.58 | Bruners | for oUF? |
| 13:59.02 | [SW]Dodge | yes |
| 13:59.18 | [SW]Dodge | pitbull 1,2mb |
| 13:59.33 | [SW]Dodge | ouf + layout ~95kb |
| 13:59.50 | Facktotum | the only thing that puts me off on ouf is the moving |
| 14:00.40 | Bruners | [SW]Dodge: can you use dogtags in oUF and make your own texts? |
| 14:01.07 | Pneumatus | ive got my fingers that SimpleUnitFrames will be updated :s |
| 14:01.11 | [SW]Dodge | Bruners: no dogtag |
| 14:01.15 | Pneumatus | s/fingers/fingers crossed/ |
| 14:01.22 | ag` | Bruners: no, you can use something much better, lua functions!! |
| 14:01.30 | ag` | :Z |
| 14:01.33 | [SW]Dodge | maybe you can implement dogtags to your own layout but you wont need that :) |
| 14:01.46 | Pneumatus | SUF hasnt been touched for ages tho |
| 14:02.31 | Bruners | ag`: that means you have to have some knowlength in lua coding :P |
| 14:02.43 | [SW]Dodge | Bruners: sure ;) |
| 14:02.46 | Facktotum | on beta i'm using agUF and its looking good |
| 14:03.02 | ag` | beta aguf is pretty light too |
| 14:03.43 | Bruners | unless pitbull wont be updated for wotlk im going to continue using it :) |
| 14:03.45 | [SW]Dodge | Bruners: if you want to make an own/custom layout you'll 100% need knowlength in lua coding |
| 14:03.59 | [SW]Dodge | Bruners: there is a pitbull4 in work |
| 14:04.14 | [SW]Dodge | dunno about progress |
| 14:04.15 | [SW]Dodge | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/pitbull4/ |
| 14:04.46 | Facktotum | ag`: i know something light works for me :) |
| 14:04.51 | [SW]Dodge | mhm last update is about 2 mont ago :/ |
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| 14:16.40 | Bruners | is there a way to trash lightheadeds loaded quest data without reloading ui ? |
| 14:19.26 | [SW]Dodge | afaik not as there is no UnLoadAddon() |
| 14:22.41 | Bruners | what was that fubar alternative some of you talked about? |
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| 14:23.32 | Facktotum | alternative to what coordinates or quest data? |
| 14:25.08 | Bruners | alternative to fubar itselfe |
| 14:27.08 | digmouse | Fortress |
| 14:27.16 | Bruners | thats the one |
| 14:27.22 | digmouse | LDB addons |
| 14:27.25 | Bruners | thank you, i was thinking forte |
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| 14:35.52 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r23 modules/ChatLink.lua: remove debug message |
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| 14:36.36 | DARKGuy | omg |
| 14:36.37 | DARKGuy | http://www.ripten.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/wow-36box2-1.jpg |
| 14:36.54 | DARKGuy | true story: http://www.ripten.com/2008/10/10/wow-whore-has-36-accounts-raids-by-himself/ |
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| 14:37.00 | EthanCentaurai | old |
| 14:37.00 | sylvanaar | yay you are the 100'th person to post it |
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| 14:37.03 | DARKGuy | damn |
| 14:37.05 | DARKGuy | :( |
| 14:37.10 | DARKGuy | still |
| 14:37.12 | DARKGuy | how the hell?! |
| 14:37.24 | Matrix110| | it just shows the retard level of this guy |
| 14:37.27 | Bruners | how? it says there in the text |
| 14:37.34 | DARKGuy | o_O I'd like to see a live video |
| 14:37.40 | DARKGuy | you can't control that much computers at the same time |
| 14:37.45 | Bruners | Matrix110|: why is that a retarded level ? |
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| 14:38.06 | Matrix110| | Because hes wasting such high amounts of money for this game? |
| 14:38.34 | Bruners | Matrix110|: its his money and his hobby and his choice on how to spend them isnt it? |
| 14:38.51 | DARKGuy | and he's insane |
| 14:38.57 | Matrix110| | Well I dont care about how retarted he is but its my opinion that hes a retard :P |
| 14:39.22 | Bruners | i used to spend more then that on drinking |
| 14:39.23 | DARKGuy | if he was retarded he couldn't control all those characters at the same time |
| 14:40.59 | Facktotum | $1500 for 36 copies of wotlk |
| 14:41.04 | Fisker- | why not? |
| 14:41.11 | Fisker- | Install application, done |
| 14:41.16 | Fisker- | Even retards can do that |
| 14:41.20 | Facktotum | well its a lot of money |
| 14:41.31 | Fisker- | Even retards have a lot of money |
| 14:41.34 | Fisker- | Look at Paris Hilton |
| 14:42.23 | Bruners | thats the same ammount i got for being to drunk and picked up by the police |
| 14:42.51 | DARKGuy | lol |
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| 14:45.47 | Castigo | pr0t |
| 14:46.09 | Castigo | can anyone tell me why /script DUI_XP_Lead::SetTexCoord(1, 1, 1, 1) doesn't do anything at all? |
| 14:46.35 | Gnarfoz | anyone who calls that 36-boxer a retard, nerd, loser or whatever has just one reason: envy |
| 14:46.38 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 14:47.48 | DARKGuy | hahahah |
| 14:47.49 | DARKGuy | totally |
| 14:47.56 | Facktotum | why would i envy a retard? |
| 14:48.15 | Fisker- | y so srs Gnarfoz ? |
| 14:48.41 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: because the first 4 pages on [H]ard|OCP were just like that. socially insecure jocks calling him a loser ;p |
| 14:49.09 | Gnarfoz | then the long time members stepped up and called these idiots out for what they were ^^ |
| 14:49.26 | Fisker- | Why so [H]ard|OCP? |
| 14:49.57 | Matrix110| | Gnarfoz tbh I dont see a reason to control more than 1 character in a game Oo |
| 14:50.06 | Matrix110| | and its not like its magic to do it |
| 14:50.12 | Fisker- | Steamrolling people etc. |
| 14:50.18 | Fisker- | No exactly |
| 14:50.22 | Fisker- | he's just another guy |
| 14:50.28 | Fisker- | Who were stupid enough to buy 36 accounts |
| 14:50.30 | Gnarfoz | there's no reason to even *play* a game, Matrix110|, so that point is moot. |
| 14:50.46 | Fisker- | Now if he actually did something impressive with those 36 accounts that might be a different story |
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| 14:51.02 | Fisker- | But multiboxing is *NOT* impressive, regardless of the numbers used to achieve it |
| 14:51.04 | Gnarfoz | maybe he will, when he actually hits 70/80 |
| 14:51.24 | Matrix110| | He cant its simple the only thing you can do is annoy people as they instant die :P |
| 14:52.04 | Matrix110| | Fearing his group onces makes him loose control over it |
| 14:52.11 | Matrix110| | and repositioning all chars is fun |
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| 14:52.21 | Bruners | must be tricky to level with the penalty on xp due to raid |
| 14:52.30 | Matrix110| | Bruners he wont level with a raid |
| 14:52.30 | Fisker- | Don't raid |
| 14:52.33 | Matrix110| | just 7 groups |
| 14:52.46 | Fisker- | Though i do agree that is somewhat of an "issue" as opposed to other multiboxer groups |
| 14:52.59 | Bruners | still a penalty with lesser xp |
| 14:53.05 | Matrix110| | no? |
| 14:53.16 | quiescens | I figure having a follow macro would fix up being feared reasonably well |
| 14:53.17 | Bruners | as they fixed that after that french guy got boosted in the beginning of tbc |
| 14:53.42 | Fisker- | He's not in a raid |
| 14:53.44 | Matrix110| | quiescens follow range isnt that big |
| 14:53.48 | Fisker- | And the french guy wasn't either |
| 14:54.30 | Matrix110| | But I dont really know why 36 Shamans |
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| 14:54.37 | Bruners | and there wont be a xp issue with 6 groups not getting xp for the 1 groups kill ? |
| 14:54.40 | Matrix110| | 36 Mages wouldve been way funnier :D |
| 14:54.55 | DARKGuy | hahaha |
| 14:54.57 | Matrix110| | Jump into ogrimmar and do 1 AE and everyone is dead :D |
| 14:55.01 | DARKGuy | I'd bet the 36-box guy looks like this http://www.dual-boxing.com/forum/images/avatars/avatar-654.jpg |
| 14:55.42 | Sunwind | 36 mages would probably be better actually your right, 1 ice lance from every mage would instagib anyone, and it's instant cast with no CD |
| 14:56.09 | Matrix110| | and just imagine 36 mages spawning 36 water elementals that autokill for you :P |
| 14:56.21 | Fisker- | nah |
| 14:56.22 | Fisker- | wotlk! |
| 14:56.24 | Fisker- | Spirit wolves |
| 14:56.26 | Fisker- | gg |
| 14:56.26 | Bruners | mutliboxing is kinda cool |
| 14:56.29 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 14:56.39 | DARKGuy | I used to multibox Diablo II |
| 14:56.40 | Xinhuan | 36 shamans x 4 totems each = targetting hell |
| 14:56.49 | Fisker- | 36 grounding totems :P |
| 14:56.51 | DARKGuy | it was kinda hell. |
| 14:56.52 | Bruners | did MGT with a 3boxing shaman + me on warlock and a mage |
| 14:57.07 | Matrix110| | Xinhuan you have that already in a 5vs5shaman arena |
| 14:57.27 | Fisker- | I still don't get why he didn't get 40 accounts though |
| 14:57.27 | Gnarfoz | Kemayo: ping |
| 14:57.43 | Matrix110| | yeah Fisker- 36 seems a bit odd |
| 14:57.44 | Bruners | Fisker-: maby he is missing a computer :P |
| 14:58.30 | Gnarfoz | seriously |
| 14:58.34 | Gnarfoz | fucking hypocrits |
| 14:58.36 | Xinhuan | if you read the article |
| 14:58.47 | Facktotum | http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/10/09/house.divided/index.html |
| 14:58.49 | Facktotum | haha |
| 14:58.49 | Xinhuan | he considers it a far cheaper hobby than some other hobbies |
| 14:58.57 | Gnarfoz | <DARKGuy> I'd bet the 36-box guy looks like this http://www.dual-boxing.com/forum/images/avatars/avatar-654.jpg + <DARKGuy> I used to multibox Diablo II |
| 14:59.02 | Xinhuan | which can cost far more money |
| 14:59.05 | DARKGuy | lmao |
| 14:59.08 | Xinhuan | consider Magic: The Gathering ;p |
| 14:59.14 | DARKGuy | I'm damn thin compared to him :p |
| 14:59.27 | Xinhuan | you'll spend far more money on cards than on 36 wow subscriptions ;p |
| 14:59.42 | Gnarfoz | DARKGuy: you don't even know the guy? |
| 14:59.49 | DARKGuy | Gnarfoz, no |
| 14:59.53 | Gnarfoz | so stfu? |
| 15:00.02 | Gnarfoz | http://www.bradster.net/ < if you want to actually see how he looks, lol |
| 15:00.06 | DARKGuy | Gnarfoz, no! :D |
| 15:00.07 | DARKGuy | :O |
| 15:00.08 | Gnarfoz | fucking children on the internet |
| 15:00.23 | Facktotum | gently pats Gnarfoz |
| 15:00.27 | DARKGuy | no way! |
| 15:00.30 | Gnarfoz | "uh he has 5k$ to spare a year for multiboxing, he MUST be fat, lazy and has no job, or life" |
| 15:00.46 | DARKGuy | and damn he does |
| 15:00.47 | DARKGuy | wtf. |
| 15:01.05 | Gnarfoz | he seems to neither be fat nor lazy, and seems to have a life and a job. :p |
| 15:01.26 | DARKGuy | ... well he can multibox but Nyhm and Evertras make cool WoW videos and he doesn't! |
| 15:01.42 | Gnarfoz | /facepalm |
| 15:01.56 | DARKGuy | ^^ |
| 15:02.00 | Gnarfoz | how about you make something anyone will even remember in 2 weeks' time and then come back? :p |
| 15:02.15 | Bruners | i think people believe that since he got 36 accounts he spend 36 times more time on the game |
| 15:02.22 | Bruners | hates ssh lag |
| 15:02.40 | Gnarfoz | I think that'd exceed the number of hours in a day. :D |
| 15:03.12 | Arrowmaster | fuck spilled pop on keyboard! |
| 15:04.44 | Stanzilla | *o |
| 15:04.47 | Jygga | actually he does videos, dunno if they are any good tho |
| 15:04.59 | DARKGuy | he does? |
| 15:05.01 | DARKGuy | hmm... |
| 15:06.29 | Jygga | http://www.bradster.net/wow.htm |
| 15:07.00 | Bruners | how do i use Fortress? |
| 15:07.13 | mykx | Gnarfoz: your argument is silly, 5 GRAND a year on a video game is beyond retarded, how can you try and make points for the guy LOL |
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| 15:07.51 | Gnarfoz | mykx: do you have $5k to spend on a video game a year? |
| 15:08.09 | mykx | no and if I did I wouldn't spend it on a video game because it's simply retarded, absolutely no sense in it |
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| 15:08.26 | Jygga | games make you feel good ! |
| 15:08.30 | Cartas | I'm sure a lot of people spend more than that on their hobby a year :P |
| 15:08.37 | mykx | "I uhh spent this money to gank alliance in stormwind" ... what ? |
| 15:08.50 | Jygga | 36 times more good that guy has feeling is </wiseguy> |
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| 15:09.35 | Tornhoof | is it possible to show blz's StaticPopup on top of the other frames? |
| 15:09.41 | Pneumatus | as opposed to say spending 5 grand a year on golf |
| 15:09.46 | Pneumatus | which clearly isnt retarded? |
| 15:09.49 | Jygga | a friend of mine paid around 5k on a remote airplane toy ... |
| 15:10.15 | Arrowmaster | usually you dont consider 5k remote airplanes toys |
| 15:10.22 | Bruners | Richard Garriott spent 30 mill USD for 10 days in space |
| 15:10.35 | Arrowmaster | im guessing the type with a gas motor? |
| 15:10.45 | Fisker- | Can i golf for less Pneumatus ? |
| 15:10.50 | mykx | eh it's a virtual item |
| 15:10.50 | KriLL3 | errm my stage 3 download went to 993MB instantly, did it find the beta installer or something? |
| 15:11.04 | Gnarfoz | <mykx> no <-- thanks for proving my point. |
| 15:11.12 | Pneumatus | dependant on the club you wish to be a member of, Fisker- |
| 15:11.12 | mykx | spending $5000+ real money on pixels it's absolutely retarded and no argument can change it really |
| 15:11.24 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: no thats the Stage1 and 2 in it =P |
| 15:11.24 | KriLL3 | Bruners: lord british is a bit... wacko |
| 15:11.26 | Arrowmaster | like the guy that bought 1 million gold in wow? |
| 15:11.30 | Fisker- | Sure |
| 15:11.31 | mykx | exactly |
| 15:11.33 | Cartas | You're very closed-minded on the matter, it seems, mykx! |
| 15:11.35 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: huh? |
| 15:11.45 | Arrowmaster | KriLL3: wacko is an understatement |
| 15:11.47 | Fisker- | The argument here is kinda like: |
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| 15:11.51 | nevcairiel | Stage3 is no individual download |
| 15:11.56 | nevcairiel | its just an extension of 1 and 2 |
| 15:11.58 | Pneumatus | WoW is a hobby, and there are plenty of hobbies around you can/will spend more than 5 grand a year on |
| 15:12.00 | nevcairiel | so if you had 1 before |
| 15:12.03 | nevcairiel | it jumps to that |
| 15:12.12 | Fisker- | Well to golf i'll need golf balls made out of gold, or i can't golf properly |
| 15:12.17 | KriLL3 | I dunno if I did... |
| 15:12.21 | Jygga | driving your own car = useless hobby |
| 15:12.23 | Jygga | ^^ |
| 15:12.27 | Fisker- | Spending money on gold golf balls = retarded |
| 15:12.32 | Fisker- | spending money on golf = not so retarded |
| 15:12.35 | Gnarfoz | pimping your car = even less useful |
| 15:12.48 | Cartas | I believe that's fallacious logic, Fisker-! |
| 15:12.50 | Bruners | two years ago i spent ~1500usd on drugs |
| 15:12.52 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: clearly, that makes sense! ... not :D |
| 15:13.04 | Fisker- | How can it nok make sense? |
| 15:13.05 | mykx | eh.. if he plays for 4 years he will have spent over 20k and what would he have to show for it? pixels.. if he invested that in a real hobby he would have something to show for it |
| 15:13.06 | Jygga | Bruners im with ya! ^^ |
| 15:13.07 | Cartas | Because everyone wants to gold with golden golf balls... |
| 15:13.12 | Jygga | i dont regret nothing! |
| 15:13.20 | Pneumatus | "a real hobby" |
| 15:13.24 | Pneumatus | you lose so hard mykx |
| 15:13.29 | Fisker- | He's throwing money out the window pointlessly |
| 15:13.43 | mykx | real being physical not some imagination world fueled by anti social nerds |
| 15:13.58 | Bruners | Fisker-: i bet he enjoys it so not pointless |
| 15:13.59 | Gnarfoz | ahahahaha |
| 15:14.04 | Gnarfoz | get the fuck out you jock :p |
| 15:14.15 | Jygga | yeah like "honey lets go to that unholy expensive restaurant pleeeeeaaaase?" |
| 15:14.17 | Gnarfoz | <mykx> eh.. if he plays for 4 years he will have spent over 20k and what would he have to show for it? pixels.. if he invested that in a real hobby he would have something to show for it <-- it's a HOBBY you don't have to have anything to show for it! |
| 15:14.38 | Fisker- | Bruners enjoyment doesn't make it any less or more retarded |
| 15:14.44 | DARKGuy | Oh........HELL |
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| 15:14.51 | DARKGuy | my addon's page was CHANGED T_T |
| 15:14.53 | mykx | I'm just not the type to piss away money and say oh well it's a hobby, if you want to do that go for it |
| 15:15.00 | DARKGuy | oh yay I have a curse page for my addon |
| 15:15.01 | DARKGuy | but still |
| 15:15.03 | DARKGuy | I miss my wiki page |
| 15:15.04 | DARKGuy | T_T |
| 15:15.10 | Jygga | <3 self propelled discussions |
| 15:15.12 | DARKGuy | now I gotta redo it |
| 15:15.12 | DARKGuy | :/ |
| 15:15.27 | Cartas | You just said: 'if you want to do that go for it', Mykx. But you seem to be hostile to someone actually doing that. |
| 15:15.36 | DARKGuy | Project Manager: WoWAce SVN?! |
| 15:15.38 | DARKGuy | it's -me-! |
| 15:15.39 | DARKGuy | :/ |
| 15:15.50 | mykx | not trying to be hostile at all, just expressing my views on it |
| 15:16.13 | Jygga | thank you for that, appreciated |
| 15:16.15 | DARKGuy | wtf.... |
| 15:16.16 | Bruners | how do i make fubar plugins hook into Fortress? |
| 15:16.30 | Pneumatus | how is spending 5000 a year on a hobby for a guy that potentially pulls six figures any different from someone spending 100 a year on a hobby that only gets state benefits? |
| 15:17.42 | DARKGuy | As long as he gets good sex |
| 15:17.47 | DARKGuy | from gamer chicks |
| 15:17.51 | DARKGuy | I think it's worth :P! |
| 15:18.01 | mykx | because $100 is nothing, $5000 could do a lot for a good cause. imo it's like taking a zippo to a wad of cash |
| 15:18.25 | Cartas | That metaphor doesn't work whatsoever. |
| 15:18.27 | Pneumatus | [the point] -> |
| 15:18.30 | Sunwind | a good cause rofl |
| 15:19.13 | Sunwind | it's his money, he can do whatever he likes with it, end of story. |
| 15:19.20 | DARKGuy | yeah |
| 15:19.21 | DARKGuy | he's insane. |
| 15:19.30 | Fisker- | nahuh Sunwind |
| 15:19.33 | mykx | i'm not arguing that at all just saying he's an idiot, regardless of how much he makes a year |
| 15:19.35 | Jygga | its like spending money on a presidential campaign that you will loose anyhow |
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| 15:20.12 | Cartas | But, your main grounds for him being an 'idiot' is that it's "jus virtual not physical" or somesuch. |
| 15:20.13 | Bruners | Jygga: thats money you wouldnt have gotten if you didnt run for president |
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| 15:20.28 | Cartas | Thus, buying games at all is like "taking a zippo to a wad of cash"? |
| 15:20.30 | Megalon | i feel thee envy people |
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| 15:20.43 | Jygga | ya well i think i meant the guys actually funding a presidential campaign :) |
| 15:20.44 | mykx | not entirely Cartas: you can enjoy wow with 1 account you do not need thirty six. |
| 15:21.01 | Cartas | On what authorititive grounds are you to claim what people need? |
| 15:21.05 | Pneumatus | so people with 2 accounts must also be equally idiotic |
| 15:21.12 | Jygga | i got two / |
| 15:21.14 | Jygga | 8/ |
| 15:21.26 | Cartas | You're an idiot with no life, clearly. |
| 15:21.30 | mykx | no authoritive grounds, just that you can make every class in the game with 1 account |
| 15:21.32 | Jygga | yeah :) |
| 15:21.34 | fewyn | A 60 Day pre-paid game time has been successfully added to your account! Your pre-paid time will end on December 11, 2008 7:20:38 AM. |
| 15:21.37 | Jygga | loving it |
| 15:21.42 | Megalon | hooray 4 far distance psychologics |
| 15:21.48 | Cartas | You know you're taking a zippo to a wad of cash, Jygga. |
| 15:21.52 | Cartas | And that money could go to a good cause! |
| 15:21.56 | Megalon | and all other far-distance-and-over-the-internet doctors :) |
| 15:22.04 | mykx | Pneumatus: what are you talking about? I myself have 2 accounts.. we're talking about 36 |
| 15:22.18 | Pneumatus | so why is having 2 accounts not idiotic, but 36 is? |
| 15:22.28 | Pneumatus | you already said yourself you can have every class on a single account |
| 15:22.29 | Cartas | You can enjoy 1 account, you do not need 2, mykx. |
| 15:22.30 | mykx | the money ? |
| 15:22.48 | Bruners | this guy got the money to do it |
| 15:22.49 | Jygga | its just a multiplication on both sides of the equation |
| 15:22.54 | Pneumatus | so, how many accounts are acceptable to have, and how many accounts make it idiotic? |
| 15:22.55 | KriLL3 | can you honestly say you'd enjoy 36 accounts 36x as much as one? |
| 15:23.00 | Jygga | money * 36 = fun *36 |
| 15:23.01 | Jygga | ^^ |
| 15:23.26 | Repo | 10rating-buster: 03Whitetooth * r174 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 15:23.27 | Repo | RatingBuster: Added "ranged critical strike" pattern for Heartseeker Scope |
| 15:23.39 | Cartas | 35 is the line, Pneumatus. |
| 15:23.43 | mykx | I appreicate not everybody is the same but honestly the game gets very boring after a while to me at least. I just cannot see having 36 account as anything less than retarded but hey to each his own. |
| 15:23.50 | Pneumatus | if only that guy had known |
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| 15:23.52 | Jygga | he is definately loosing the fun of random raid wipefests |
| 15:24.05 | Pneumatus | if he hadnt gone the one extra this whole debate wouldnt have happened! |
| 15:24.15 | Cartas | I know, it's such a shame. |
| 15:24.36 | Cryect | what if the 36 accounts are being used to farm gold and sell it for profit is it still idiotic to have 36 accounts? |
| 15:24.50 | mykx | not at all but he said he uses them to "pwn alliance noobs" |
| 15:24.55 | mykx | or something to that effect |
| 15:24.55 | Cartas | Yeah, because the line of idiocy is drawn at 35, Cryect. |
| 15:24.58 | Cartas | No matter what the use. |
| 15:25.00 | Bruners | mykx: the article said that not him |
| 15:25.07 | Jygga | 36*glider adds a lot to the costs |
| 15:25.22 | Cryect | I don't really believe anyone with 36 accounts is likely to use it for "legit" reasons |
| 15:25.33 | Cartas | Don't you? |
| 15:25.39 | Jygga | i wouldnt! |
| 15:25.56 | Pneumatus | i cant believe anyone with 2 accounts is likely to use them for "legit" reasons :> |
| 15:26.27 | Megalon | anyone without an account, probably does not use it for "legit" reasons |
| 15:26.47 | Cryect | Looks legit don't be a pussy |
| 15:27.07 | mykx | if you have 2 accounts, you can for example help your own alt out with quests. fair enough that's 1 of many reasons. but erm yeah if you think 36 is cool then perhaps you should get your head checked out. |
| 15:27.24 | Pneumatus | flawed argument is flawed |
| 15:27.34 | Cartas | Oh, sorry, I had no idea you were medically qualified on the matter, mykx! |
| 15:27.34 | mykx | because you say so? lol ok then |
| 15:28.02 | Arrowmaster | THATS JUST FUCKING WRONG! some god damn lvl 63 resisted my incenerate in AV |
| 15:28.03 | mykx | I'm not saying I am at all, you're just a fool and come back with a sarcastic comment to everything I say. but whatever it's irc |
| 15:28.18 | Pneumatus | helping your alts out with quests is a valid reason, so helping your alts out with 25-man raids, or 36-man city raids must be equally valid |
| 15:28.34 | Arrowmaster | and ive got 207 hit rating |
| 15:28.41 | Cartas | Hm, well, I guess I could come back with something more than sarcasm, but I was waiting for you to have a non-presumptuous, random opinion on the matter. |
| 15:28.58 | KriLL3 | Arrowmaster: level 1 rabbits can resist my moonfire and dodge my melees... |
| 15:29.08 | Cartas | Erm... maybe remove that 'random opinion' from there, per'aps! |
| 15:29.19 | Arrowmaster | i had to cast twice to kill the damn gnome |
| 15:29.21 | Bruners | Arrowmaster: always 1% to resist/miss isnt it?:P |
| 15:29.34 | Arrowmaster | till 3.0 yeah |
| 15:30.01 | Arrowmaster | if they changed the max hit % in 3.0 im way over it i guess |
| 15:30.19 | KriLL3 | does melee hit work for spell hit also? hate my cyclones being resisted most of the time |
| 15:30.20 | Bruners | still 1% chance to resist/miss |
| 15:30.34 | Arrowmaster | 18.39% spell hit |
| 15:30.51 | Bruners | Cyclone should have 1% to be sucessful and 99% chance to brake early |
| 15:31.12 | pentium166 | especially if you're feral |
| 15:31.49 | Bruners | anyone of you that uses Fortress ? |
| 15:39.35 | KriLL3 | Bruners: does it have ramparts? |
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| 15:44.11 | Bruners | KriLL3: ramparts? |
| 15:44.18 | KriLL3 | nvm |
| 15:44.48 | Bruners | how do i make fubar plugins appear in Fortress and not on the minimap |
| 15:45.02 | nevcairiel | install FuBar2Broker |
| 15:45.47 | Fisker- | hates nevcairiel |
| 15:45.51 | Fisker- | y helo thar |
| 15:46.46 | Bruners | nevcairiel: and for the ones that reports missing dependency i change what? |
| 15:47.00 | nevcairiel | dunno? :D |
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| 15:51.57 | Fisker- | blargh |
| 15:51.59 | Fisker- | i'm ded |
| 15:52.09 | Bruners | and still typing? |
| 15:52.17 | DARKGuy | Hmm I got a small question |
| 15:52.32 | DARKGuy | Do saved variables are saved in the character's WTF folder as soon as they're saved? |
| 15:52.42 | DARKGuy | er, as soon as they're modified ? |
| 15:52.51 | DARKGuy | or only in login/logout? |
| 15:53.00 | quiescens | on logout |
| 15:53.07 | quiescens | on a clean logout |
| 15:53.12 | Bruners | or reload |
| 15:53.13 | DARKGuy | right |
| 15:53.37 | DARKGuy | Hm, so there isn't any way one can "change" something UI-wise and have it reflected on a file on disk on realtime? |
| 15:54.00 | nevcairiel | no |
| 15:54.13 | DARKGuy | dang it :/ |
| 15:54.14 | Bruners | think the eula states you cant |
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| 15:55.09 | DARKGuy | that sucks, because I could've made an addon that changes a saved variable or something in a file and have mpd/winamp read that and act accodingly :P |
| 15:55.17 | quiescens | you can pretty easily pull things out of the game |
| 15:55.24 | DARKGuy | how? |
| 15:55.35 | Gnarfoz | you can not |
| 15:55.47 | DARKGuy | hacking the memory? xD |
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| 15:55.56 | Gnarfoz | that's "easy" and "bannable" at the same time. |
| 15:56.01 | DARKGuy | yeah :P |
| 15:56.56 | Bruners | DARKGuy: but why would you want winamp to act to anything ingame? |
| 15:58.12 | Gnarfoz | because he doesn't know about global hotkeys, probably? ;D |
| 15:59.37 | DARKGuy | Not WinAmp... I know global hotkeys, but you know :P |
| 15:59.46 | DARKGuy | I could like, make it generic so I could even use MPD with it |
| 16:00.05 | DARKGuy | if MPD reads that file and finds an 1 = next track. 2 = play, etc |
| 16:00.22 | DARKGuy | and have some nice buttons somewhere to do that :P |
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| 16:01.37 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 16:01.41 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 16:01.51 | Gnarfoz | that's excatly what global hotkeys are for, what do you need buttons for |
| 16:02.30 | DARKGuy | I'm not a hotkeys/awesome/xmonad/minimalist user |
| 16:02.38 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 16:03.33 | Bruners | i use ctrl+page up/down, home, end as hotkeys for stuff like that |
| 16:03.52 | Bruners | think that is the default in winamp aswell |
| 16:04.40 | DARKGuy | ya |
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| 16:04.46 | DARKGuy | still, I'd like something visual :p |
| 16:05.15 | Pneumatus | g15 |
| 16:05.20 | Bruners | dont play fullscreen and make some controlls always on top |
| 16:05.27 | DARKGuy | jesus no. |
| 16:05.43 | DARKGuy | My idea with the saved variables too was that I could write a plugin that would write them and WoW would read them. That way I could even read a playlist and control it gui-like |
| 16:05.46 | DARKGuy | I loved MyMusic |
| 16:05.58 | Facktotum | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6650-SimpleMp3Playerv2.0.3.html#info |
| 16:06.02 | Facktotum | evolve on that |
| 16:06.48 | Bruners | DARKGuy: play fullscreen and have your buttons always on top then |
| 16:06.50 | Arrowmaster | AHAHAHA |
| 16:06.57 | Arrowmaster | we summoned loktar in AV |
| 16:07.03 | quiescens | grats? |
| 16:07.14 | DARKGuy | Bruners, not a viable option :p |
| 16:07.29 | Bruners | DARKGuy: you need it to be inside wow as an addon? |
| 16:07.44 | DARKGuy | yes :P |
| 16:07.55 | Bruners | like now i have wow fullscreen but got my putty always on top visible |
| 16:07.56 | DARKGuy | having the buttons always on top would unfocus Wow |
| 16:08.10 | DARKGuy | o_O! |
| 16:08.11 | DARKGuy | how? :O |
| 16:08.14 | Bruners | not if you play windows maximized |
| 16:08.16 | DARKGuy | may I see? :P |
| 16:08.19 | DARKGuy | hmm :/ |
| 16:08.19 | Bruners | windowed |
| 16:08.34 | DARKGuy | how do you play Windows maximized? XD |
| 16:08.54 | Facktotum | select windows>maximize in the video settings? |
| 16:08.54 | Bruners | video options-> hook Windowed mode and maximized |
| 16:09.07 | DARKGuy | yeah I know that :p |
| 16:09.17 | DARKGuy | how do you manage to have putty and wow like that though |
| 16:09.23 | DARKGuy | I'm curious |
| 16:09.23 | DARKGuy | :p |
| 16:10.03 | Bruners | google putty tray |
| 16:10.17 | Bruners | its a modfied version with some extras |
| 16:11.13 | fewyn | My picture of the day to all of you http://wow.allakhazam.com/wiki.html?v=69516 |
| 16:11.40 | DARKGuy | oh wow, now that's a nice putty mod |
| 16:11.41 | DARKGuy | ^^ |
| 16:12.05 | DARKGuy | omg rofl |
| 16:12.13 | Bruners | i like the url handling the most |
| 16:12.14 | Facktotum | oh god i've seen that costume |
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| 16:12.30 | Facktotum | i was wondering how she could walk with that thing |
| 16:12.30 | sb | meh, vista sucks in windowed mode :/ |
| 16:12.45 | DARKGuy | walking with that must be huge |
| 16:12.46 | sb | every time i have some "tooltip" (e.g. winamp "now playing") my wow fps drops to 5 |
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| 16:12.53 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 16:13.00 | sb | its back to okay when wow has full focus agagin |
| 16:13.09 | Bruners | sb: i had that on xp |
| 16:13.12 | sb | i dont know if its video driver issues or something else |
| 16:13.15 | DARKGuy | Vista sucks for gaming tho |
| 16:13.16 | sb | oh okay :o |
| 16:13.23 | sb | how did you fix it Bruners? ;) |
| 16:13.26 | Bruners | i use vista |
| 16:13.30 | Bruners | everything ok here |
| 16:13.31 | sb | wtf :) |
| 16:13.33 | Facktotum | lets not start vista vs xp flame wars please |
| 16:13.40 | sb | its not flame wars |
| 16:13.49 | sb | i need some solution here ;) |
| 16:13.52 | Facktotum | it will get to that |
| 16:13.54 | sb | and "install xp" is no option :) |
| 16:14.18 | Facktotum | bruners: are you on ati or nvidia? |
| 16:14.24 | Bruners | ati |
| 16:14.28 | Facktotum | sb? |
| 16:14.38 | eraserhead | Pitbull: I want to export/send my layout to another palyer. How do I save my layout so it shows up listed under the export option under the layout tab? |
| 16:14.40 | sb | nvidia |
| 16:14.54 | Facktotum | so there you have it its completely a different story |
| 16:15.21 | Bruners | sb: go to performance options and try different settings on tooltips there |
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| 16:15.51 | Bruners | unhooking the slide/fade stuff for tooltips |
| 16:16.20 | DARKGuy | oh yeah |
| 16:16.32 | sb | well - buts its no winamp issue :) also happens when some other window has focus |
| 16:16.43 | Bruners | sb: try what i said |
| 16:17.01 | sb | ah, talking about os settings? |
| 16:17.05 | Bruners | yes |
| 16:17.09 | sb | oh okay, will try |
| 16:17.11 | Xinhuan | anyone knows the difference between RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE and PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED ? |
| 16:17.44 | nevcairiel | RRU fires for everything and their mother |
| 16:17.49 | nevcairiel | PMC only for your 5man party |
| 16:17.59 | nevcairiel | (and their mother) |
| 16:18.00 | Bruners | sb: right click my computer->properties->advanced settings->advanced->[performance]Settings |
| 16:18.16 | Xinhuan | not true, PMC also fires for raid |
| 16:18.18 | sb | Bruners: already got it, thanks ;) |
| 16:18.22 | Xinhuan | even if your party isn't changed |
| 16:18.28 | nevcairiel | i didnt see that yet |
| 16:18.50 | nevcairiel | well RRU also fires for like giving MT/MA etc |
| 16:19.11 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4538 |
| 16:19.14 | Xinhuan | there wasn't a reply |
| 16:19.19 | Xinhuan | as to the difference between those 2 events |
| 16:19.22 | fewyn | http://wow.allakhazam.com/wiki/Blizzcon_2008_Interviews_-_Interview_Amanda_Hosler_-_Costume_Contest_Winner that's the person from the picture |
| 16:19.34 | Gnarfoz | ~seen kemayo |
| 16:19.36 | purl | kemayo is currently on #wowuidev #wowace #curseforge, last said: 'Industrial: Yeah, I never really "released" BetterQuest. More like sneakily put it onto trunk and started ignoring QuestsFu.'. |
| 16:20.20 | Xinhuan | Zeksie |
| 16:20.44 | nevcairiel | Well i usually use RRU for things like member joined/left raid |
| 16:20.48 | nevcairiel | and PMC for my own party |
| 16:20.53 | nevcairiel | no idea if its really relevant :P |
| 16:21.29 | sb | Bruners: didnt fix it |
| 16:22.10 | DARKGuy | did the turtle carry her :|? |
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| 16:23.11 | DARKGuy | man I thought she was draenei |
| 16:23.12 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 16:24.19 | Bruners | sb: try setting the ingame Multisample setting to 1x, just saw a blue post about it for xp |
| 16:24.31 | sb | Bruners: tried... no effect :/ |
| 16:24.45 | sb | and yep, i know that post :) |
| 16:25.30 | Bruners | now that i think about it, i used my nvidia card when that was an issue |
| 16:25.50 | sb | hehe, so its some nvidia driver issue :O |
| 16:26.09 | sb | i also remember not having that problem with my ati card..... |
| 16:26.34 | Facktotum | i just set wow to window maximized and does the same thing |
| 16:26.41 | Facktotum | im on an nvidia as well |
| 16:27.01 | Facktotum | powerdvd has the same issue |
| 16:27.26 | Bruners | disable tooltips then :P |
| 16:28.12 | sb | i will try rebooting... |
| 16:28.12 | sb | brb |
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| 16:30.13 | Zeksie | Xinhuan ? |
| 16:30.24 | Xinhuan | do you know the difference between |
| 16:30.34 | Xinhuan | RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE and PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED? |
| 16:30.45 | Xinhuan | i am hoping you do |
| 16:31.06 | Cryect | uh RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE doesn't trigger in parties? |
| 16:31.07 | Zeksie | yea, RRU gets fired for any raid roster change, ppl come, go, promote demote etc. PMC is for party members only |
| 16:31.27 | Zeksie | is this a trick question btw.. |
| 16:31.39 | Cryect | testing your knowledge! |
| 16:31.39 | Xinhuan | as far as i can tell, PMC also fires if ppl get moved around in a raid and when ppl join/leave the raid, even when the changes do not affect your own party in the raid |
| 16:31.48 | Cryect | thats correct Xinhuan |
| 16:31.53 | Xinhuan | so what is the difference? |
| 16:31.57 | Xinhuan | between those 2 events |
| 16:32.05 | Cryect | RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE doesn't trigger for nonraids |
| 16:32.05 | Xinhuan | does firing RRU always fire PMC? |
| 16:32.10 | Zeksie | raid IDs changed, which falsely flags PMC i'd bet |
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| 16:32.44 | Xinhuan | if i need to keep an up-to-date table of GUID -> name lookups for my raid, which event should i use? |
| 16:32.47 | Zeksie | i've not tested it to be honest |
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| 16:33.06 | Zeksie | do what i do. use both events, set a flag and update on next OnUpdate |
| 16:33.16 | Cryect | why do you need to keep a GUID->Name lookup |
| 16:33.18 | Zhinjio | Hey Zeksie.. question for you |
| 16:33.26 | Xinhuan | Cryect: to display in omen |
| 16:33.30 | Zeksie | i do that cos you can get multiple RRU if you get mass invites/leaves et.c |
| 16:33.32 | Cryect | easy to get always get Name->GUID if they are in your group |
| 16:33.33 | Zhinjio | is there a setting that will make the Earth shield thinger go away when you leave party? |
| 16:33.46 | Zeksie | no Zhinjio: but it's a good point |
| 16:33.53 | Zeksie | will write it down. |
| 16:33.58 | Xinhuan | i need GUID -> name |
| 16:34.00 | Xinhuan | not name -> Guid |
| 16:34.03 | Cryect | Xinhuan you could just the combat log |
| 16:34.15 | Zhinjio | awesome, thanks. |
| 16:34.18 | Xinhuan | combat log isn't necessary |
| 16:34.25 | Xinhuan | it generates a few thousand events |
| 16:34.29 | Xinhuan | every minute |
| 16:34.31 | Cryect | heh true |
| 16:34.32 | Xinhuan | compared to RRU |
| 16:34.55 | Cryect | pretty sure PARTy_MEMBERS_CHANGED is what you want |
| 16:35.04 | Cryect | triggers whenever people are added/removed and moved around |
| 16:35.06 | Zeksie | again, i'd use both and flag for OnUpdate.. |
| 16:35.21 | Cryect | won't be triggered for things like Promotions/demotes though |
| 16:35.23 | Zeksie | cos right NOW they might behave this way, but who's to say it won't be 'fixed' |
| 16:36.27 | Zeksie | omg.. 2 donations in one week, at this rate i can buy... *does the math*... heh |
| 16:36.42 | Fisker- | slaps Zeksie around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:36.46 | Cryect | So does threat lib no longer give you names? |
| 16:37.00 | Xinhuan | threat lib parses the combat log Cryect |
| 16:37.08 | Cryect | right so its knows the names for the guids |
| 16:37.09 | Xinhuan | to guess threat |
| 16:37.12 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 16:37.19 | Xinhuan | and you no longer need threat libs in 3.0 |
| 16:37.34 | Zeksie | doing a raid shortly Xinhuan: I'll do a small modlette to count number of PMC and RRU |
| 16:37.41 | Xinhuan | ok! |
| 16:38.04 | Xinhuan | it would be useful to know which event fires when, especially for you as a UF author |
| 16:38.18 | Cryect | So why do you need guids if you are using UnitDetailedThreatSituation |
| 16:38.50 | Xinhuan | because i'm doing raid scanning, mulitple unitIDs can be the same player |
| 16:38.53 | Xinhuan | or the same mob |
| 16:39.05 | Xinhuan | so i use a table that goes by unique GUIDs |
| 16:39.19 | cncfanatics | lua_toboolean gets values from the stack without removing them right ? I'll still have to pop them myself ? |
| 16:39.35 | Cryect | raidX can't be the same as any other raidY where x!=y |
| 16:39.45 | Xinhuan | raidXtarget can be |
| 16:40.16 | Xinhuan | although you do have a valid point |
| 16:40.19 | Cryect | yes but you don't care about threat against players |
| 16:40.32 | Xinhuan | note that omen will also display threat of NPCs on NPCs |
| 16:40.40 | Cryect | ah okay |
| 16:40.56 | Xinhuan | an example being kalecgos |
| 16:41.19 | Cryect | yeah, figured you had reasons why you were doing it this way instead of a simpler way |
| 16:41.59 | Cryect | but with kalecgos they aren't in your raid so RRU won't be triggered? |
| 16:42.12 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6178009702&sid=1#3 <- DUN DUN DUN |
| 16:42.13 | Xinhuan | although it might be simply if during the raid scanning, i store a valid unitid as well hmm |
| 16:42.17 | Xinhuan | simpler* |
| 16:43.01 | Xinhuan | i also need to color each bar by their class color |
| 16:43.09 | DARKGuy | WHAT?! |
| 16:43.17 | DARKGuy | why the hell is the bear gonna be removed? :/ |
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| 16:43.28 | Xinhuan | so would performing UnitClass() every time be better than just raid scanning? |
| 16:43.29 | Cryect | so people don't go back and farm it who knows |
| 16:43.30 | Pneumatus | they _still_ havnt said categorically that they will be patching on tuesday, have they? |
| 16:43.36 | fewyn | because it's a timed event and set for level 70s |
| 16:43.38 | fewyn | not 80s |
| 16:43.40 | DARKGuy | that's so unfair. |
| 16:43.43 | Xinhuan | what do you think cryect? |
| 16:43.44 | fewyn | not really |
| 16:43.55 | DARKGuy | those who want it will never have it now |
| 16:43.56 | Cryect | Hmmm table lookup would be fastest |
| 16:43.56 | DARKGuy | it's un fair. |
| 16:44.07 | Cryect | I would just store classes of Units every RRU |
| 16:44.09 | Xinhuan | currently when PMC fires, i store lookup tables of GUID -> class and GUID -> name |
| 16:44.21 | Cryect | could just store Unit->Class |
| 16:44.27 | Cryect | since Unit won't change till next PMC |
| 16:44.47 | Cryect | oh and unit->name |
| 16:44.49 | Xinhuan | yes it will, especially if its a unitID like raid5target |
| 16:45.01 | Cryect | oh thats right you are keeping the targets there |
| 16:45.07 | pentium166 | the bear was intended to be a reward for people who could do the 4 bosses quickly while it was still somewhat challenging and it hasn't been a secret that it was getting removed with 3.0 |
| 16:45.16 | Xinhuan | the alternative is to always call UnitClass |
| 16:45.21 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 16:45.23 | Xinhuan | which is better |
| 16:46.00 | Cryect | Well I'm confused on the raid5target why would you be checking that during a PMC? |
| 16:46.10 | Cryect | since raid5target could change during nonPMC events |
| 16:46.23 | Xinhuan | i'm not |
| 16:46.27 | Cryect | oh |
| 16:46.33 | Xinhuan | during a PMC, i just store only the raid and raid pets |
| 16:46.43 | Cryect | well for simplicity sake prolly best to keep it all GUIDs |
| 16:46.52 | Cryect | if you are keeping guids for the targets |
| 16:46.59 | Cryect | much easier to read the code then |
| 16:47.44 | Xinhuan | hmm, i'm going to have to think about it |
| 16:48.21 | Xinhuan | currently, what i do is, i loop over the entire raid, raidpets and their target |
| 16:48.26 | Xinhuan | and query their threat on the mob |
| 16:48.36 | Xinhuan | and store the GUID->threat in a table |
| 16:48.46 | Xinhuan | then i sort this table by threat |
| 16:48.56 | Cryect | yeah |
| 16:49.01 | Xinhuan | then i just loop over this table for display |
| 16:49.15 | Cryect | makes sense |
| 16:49.36 | Xinhuan | however, the class and name of any GUID can also be obtained while raid scanning |
| 16:49.52 | Xinhuan | since the scanning is only over valid unitIDs |
| 16:50.01 | Cryect | yep |
| 16:50.02 | Xinhuan | so i'm not sure which way to go is best |
| 16:51.44 | Zeksie | what's the performance hit for doing that loop constantly? |
| 16:51.56 | Cryect | well I assume he's doing it like once a second |
| 16:52.02 | cncfanatics | Adirelle: to call a function and get its result: push the function on the stack; lua_call(0, 1); lua_toboolean(lua_gettop()); lua_pop(1); right ? |
| 16:52.26 | Cryect | cncfanatics, thats correct from what I recall from lua bindings |
| 16:52.30 | Xinhuan | not too high |
| 16:52.45 | Zeksie | might be better to metre it out over time, rather than updating all at once, do some each 100ms or so |
| 16:52.54 | Xinhuan | the difference would really just be a table lookup (to get the name and class) |
| 16:53.00 | Xinhuan | vs calling UnitClass and UnitName |
| 16:53.16 | Xinhuan | in the former, the table gets updated only during PMC and Unit_Name events |
| 16:53.18 | Cryect | would be preferrably Zeksie though more complex |
| 16:54.19 | Zeksie | not so bad. he's already got a known size table of IDs. |
| 16:54.42 | Xinhuan | since the table only contains your raid, the absence of a lookup entry would also mean its not in your raid (i.e an NPC or another player that is tanking but not in your raid) |
| 16:54.46 | KriLL3 | anyone seen any torrents for ppv dtv blizzcon? :< |
| 16:55.12 | Xinhuan | say you form a 80 man raid on thrall, the tank is in the other raid, you'll still be able to see his threat |
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| 16:55.37 | Zeksie | cool |
| 16:55.51 | Xinhuan | because he's "reachable" through "targettarget" |
| 16:56.26 | Zeksie | and if i'm right from the brief look i had at it, even if he's not reachable, you can still determine your own threat % yes? |
| 16:56.31 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 16:57.09 | Zyndrome | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
| 16:57.12 | Xinhuan | currently, i always scan the mob's target as well, so 99% of cases, the tank is reachable |
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| 16:57.25 | Zeksie | yeah. indeed |
| 16:57.58 | Zeksie | one thought though.. |
| 16:58.12 | Xinhuan | interestingly the raw% given by the threat api gives 255 if you are tanking |
| 16:58.12 | Fisker- | slaps Xinhuan around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:58.40 | Zeksie | like you're building a list of valid IDs on roster change, you could also do a superset valid ID list which updates whenever someone has a UNIT_TARGET event, and discard duplicates at that time |
| 16:58.58 | Zeksie | rather than every update, it'll only be on target changes |
| 16:59.03 | Fisker- | slaps Zeksie around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:59.23 | Zeksie | although you'd prolly want to filter healers on that a bit.. hmm |
| 16:59.30 | Gnarfoz | btw |
| 16:59.33 | Zeksie | would have to run a comparison. |
| 16:59.45 | Xinhuan | what i do is |
| 16:59.53 | Gnarfoz | can anyone tell me why the Ace sub-libraries have XML files in them? |
| 17:00.01 | Gnarfoz | that do nothing but load the lua file? |
| 17:00.16 | Zeksie | cos ppl didn't know better back in the day? |
| 17:00.41 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 17:00.45 | Zeksie | no. i think it's so the main ace2 proper can Include that xml file? not looked, but i'd guess that |
| 17:00.47 | Xinhuan | well Zeksie, i even have this: http://pastey.net/98090 |
| 17:00.48 | Xinhuan | ;p |
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| 17:01.06 | Gnarfoz | Zeksie: well... the main ace2 could just as well include the lua file? :D |
| 17:01.22 | Zeksie | heh |
| 17:01.29 | Xinhuan | might be useful for you too |
| 17:01.55 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: maybe you know? <Gnarfoz> can anyone tell me why the Ace sub-libraries have XML files in them that do nothing but load the lua file? |
| 17:02.06 | Zeksie | i tried it Xinhuan: even went as far as caching IDs and event the displayed info at one point. made no difference since the update to the new GC |
| 17:02.24 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: because it's better for addons to reference the xml than the lua |
| 17:02.33 | ckknight | since the xml could add other files later if the author so wanted |
| 17:02.50 | Gnarfoz | ah, hm, ok |
| 17:02.52 | nevcairiel | yeah you could split it up afterwards |
| 17:02.53 | Zeksie | exactly. and they don't care about the path, cos it's relative |
| 17:02.55 | nevcairiel | if you wanted |
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| 17:05.47 | Zeksie | Xinhuan: that lookup is also around 40x faster... so has my vote ;) |
| 17:05.58 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 17:06.08 | erikh | what goes into getting the forums off? |
| 17:06.16 | erikh | i mean, that sounds tricky... and sticky. |
| 17:06.18 | Xinhuan | its just that much faster especially if used in OnUpdates |
| 17:06.20 | Zeksie | assuming it's an integer only table you have |
| 17:07.18 | Zeksie | i'll have to revisit that i think. i looked at it before for memory usage concerns. not speed. ;) |
| 17:07.19 | eliteevil | Zeksie: I like the new label for which pally is doing which blessing in ZOMG. =) |
| 17:07.44 | Zeksie | new? label... i bet it's always been there and you only just noticed ;) |
| 17:07.45 | Cryect | he won't have an integer only table since he is using guids |
| 17:08.04 | Zeksie | no. this table (in the pasty) is ints |
| 17:08.16 | Cryect | oh! |
| 17:08.25 | Zeksie | mmmm.. now, converting guids to ints might help that actually |
| 17:08.27 | Cryect | in middle of making lunch :-p |
| 17:08.30 | Xinhuan | Cryect: that pastey could probably be useful for recount too ;p |
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| 17:08.39 | Zeksie | might wanna test that Xinhuan |
| 17:08.46 | Cryect | oh you doing that :-p |
| 17:08.51 | Cryect | I remember when we discussed that a while ago |
| 17:09.10 | Xinhuan | for the most part, the only things i care about optimizing is OnUpdates |
| 17:09.19 | Cryect | I only do a raid scan max of once a second in Recount 2 |
| 17:09.30 | Cryect | so wouldn't really buy much |
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| 17:10.03 | eliteevil | Zeksie: I probably had it disabled somehow, and it showed up when I cleared out my savedvariables. |
| 17:10.24 | Repo | 10yata: 03Tornhoof 07wotlk * r48 / (3 files in 1 directory): - Added UI for totem set feature |
| 17:10.44 | Cryect | Recount and Recount 2 try to keep valid UnitId's as well for a unit (though won't update till requested again) |
| 17:11.03 | Cryect | so in general it doesn't go down the path of having to create unitid strings |
| 17:12.56 | KriLL3 | the owner of this UI: http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot101208194948jq1.jpg just told me it's not cluttered |
| 17:13.23 | Cryect | who the hell would keep such a large proximo window on their screen O_o |
| 17:13.36 | Cryect | well I guess a guy who goes by Morphin |
| 17:14.30 | erikh | my healer layout isn't that cluttered |
| 17:14.34 | erikh | and it's cluttered. :) |
| 17:14.57 | Trela | Where is that owner? I want to smack them. |
| 17:15.08 | Bruners | i really dont understand why you would need the menu bar |
| 17:15.16 | nevcairiel | the minimap and proximo totally clutter the center |
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| 17:15.49 | erikh | yeah, the two bars on the right are probably things (s)he never uses as well |
| 17:16.03 | erikh | err, the bag/micro menu |
| 17:16.03 | Spennig | ... and i thought I had a lot of stuff showing on my UI.... |
| 17:16.15 | Zeksie | well. that's interesting... woudln't have expected a numeric lookup on a sequential table to be slower than a string key lookup. |
| 17:16.28 | nevcairiel | hashes are pretty fast |
| 17:16.42 | Zeksie | sure. but int keyed tables have an index as well as hash. |
| 17:16.54 | Zeksie | i'd have thought index lookup would be far superior |
| 17:17.00 | erikh | should be |
| 17:17.08 | erikh | are you sure it thinks it's indexed? |
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| 17:17.24 | selckin | your benchmark is probably fail |
| 17:17.29 | Zeksie | yep. tried 2 ways |
| 17:17.43 | erikh | i mean, the cost of hashing the key should be enough to show a difference |
| 17:20.34 | Arrowmaster | Zeksie: your index'd table was probably really a hash table, you have to use table.insert or it becomes a hash table |
| 17:21.09 | Zeksie | i tried that too arrow. |
| 17:21.12 | Zeksie | both ways |
| 17:21.19 | Zeksie | made no diff |
| 17:21.33 | erikh | Arrowmaster: yeah, that's what I was thinking.. his indexes are actually getting atoi()'d and then hashed |
| 17:21.38 | erikh | which would make it slower. |
| 17:21.54 | Arrowmaster | Zeksie: brand new table with all data added via table.insert? |
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| 17:22.24 | Zeksie | yup |
| 17:24.04 | Repo | 10instance-maps: 038tImER * r46 / (2 files in 1 directory): InstanceMaps: switch from embeds.xml to no-lib-strip |
| 17:25.57 | Zeksie | oh jees.... we went for the non LoD libs did we... |
| 17:26.38 | Arrowmaster | Zeksie: had to, unless blizzard fixed that bug in the patch for tuesday and never put that patch on beta |
| 17:27.09 | Zeksie | sucks. i'm actually gonna have to tidy my addons folder now.. |
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| 17:27.27 | Repo | 10yata: 03Tornhoof 07wotlk * r49 / (12 files in 2 directories): - localization |
| 17:28.58 | Repo | 10yata: 03Tornhoof 04wotlk-beta-0.5 * r50 : Tagged for beta |
| 17:29.00 | peteskiski | hi |
| 17:30.09 | peteskiski | anyone here |
| 17:30.15 | Zeksie | no |
| 17:30.59 | Bruners | peteskiski: just ask your question, if you are lucky someone will answer |
| 17:31.10 | peteskiski | i have a question about bartender4, how do you display your xp bar i dont see it anywhere |
| 17:31.22 | Bruners | dont think there is one |
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| 17:31.36 | peteskiski | thats stupid |
| 17:31.36 | Arrowmaster | there isnt |
| 17:31.43 | Xinhuan | whats the code you used for your testing, Zeksie? |
| 17:31.50 | Zeksie | moment |
| 17:31.57 | peteskiski | well then it needs to be implemented |
| 17:32.03 | Bruners | peteskiski: why is that stupid? |
| 17:32.06 | Cryect | why would BT4 have an XP bar? |
| 17:32.19 | peteskiski | ummm so you can see your xp? |
| 17:32.36 | erikh | peteskiski: that's not what bartender is for |
| 17:32.46 | erikh | either way, there are a number of xp bar mods out there. |
| 17:32.49 | nevcairiel | actually, Bartender4 will get a XPBar with the 3.0 release |
| 17:32.50 | peteskiski | i understand but now i dont have a xp bar |
| 17:33.03 | Bruners | peteskiski: http://wow.curse.com/search/SearchResults.aspx?q=xp+bar |
| 17:33.10 | nevcairiel | it hides the blizzard bar by default, so you can unhide it and move it |
| 17:33.12 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: you have one in the wrath branch? |
| 17:33.16 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 17:33.21 | nevcairiel | well not pushed yet |
| 17:33.29 | nevcairiel | because it would repack my master again =P |
| 17:33.33 | Fisker- | what if i don't want a xp bar? >:3 |
| 17:33.39 | nevcairiel | its disabled by default |
| 17:33.40 | Zeksie | http://pastey.net/98094 |
| 17:34.06 | Fisker- | But the what would i troll? |
| 17:34.09 | Fisker- | then* |
| 17:34.11 | nevcairiel | peteskiski: wait 2 days and you'll get the xp bar with BT4 back :) |
| 17:34.15 | Trela | Here is a clean interface. http://www.experimentalinsanity.com/albums/wow/MihauUI1.jpg |
| 17:34.33 | Primer | I'm a bit disappointed with Dominos |
| 17:34.34 | nevcairiel | only rogues can live with a tiny interface like that |
| 17:34.35 | Spennig | nevcairiel: dropped a question on the forums, but i'm curious, what was the reasoning behind pulling the rollbar out of 4? |
| 17:34.48 | erikh | heh, beat me to it. |
| 17:34.58 | Trela | nevcairiel: I use that on my priest, shaman, mage, and every thing else. |
| 17:34.59 | Primer | Bongos worked really well for me, and now it seems that neither is going to be maintained |
| 17:35.01 | Bruners | Trela: but its missing important stuff like unit frames |
| 17:35.10 | erikh | Trela: you don't heal, do you? |
| 17:35.19 | nevcairiel | I heal and i raid lead |
| 17:35.22 | nevcairiel | i need some more infos |
| 17:35.33 | Arrowmaster | bartender3 had a rollbar? |
| 17:35.37 | Spennig | yup |
| 17:35.41 | Trela | Bruners: They are there. I use DHUD/MetaHud/IceHUD for player/target frames. X-Perl for parties and raids. |
| 17:35.47 | Arrowmaster | oddly i dont remember it |
| 17:35.58 | nevcairiel | was added pretty late |
| 17:36.02 | Spennig | it was disabled by default |
| 17:36.06 | Trela | erikh: My healer. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Feathermoon&n=Azxiana |
| 17:36.09 | Bruners | Trela: and its only visible during? |
| 17:36.15 | Trela | Yes. |
| 17:36.16 | nevcairiel | I shouldve taken some in-fight screenshots |
| 17:36.20 | nevcairiel | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/e0a361b037dc8827b2a96fc248293f04.jpg |
| 17:36.20 | Spennig | I was thrilled when i could use one mod to get it moved off the top of where my action bars go |
| 17:36.23 | nevcairiel | my raid ui currently |
| 17:36.33 | Trela | switches to priest. |
| 17:37.23 | Bruners | mine http://ui.ipwn.se/i/235.jpg :) |
| 17:37.24 | erikh | nevcairiel: is that grid? |
| 17:37.31 | erikh | or xper? |
| 17:37.34 | erikh | err, xperl |
| 17:37.42 | nevcairiel | Spennig: well as i posted on the forums, its not exactly related to action bars, and i personally never used it, so uh, it got removed =P |
| 17:37.53 | nevcairiel | erikh: agUF for player/target and sRaidFrames for raid |
| 17:37.55 | Fisker- | wingrid is wiiiiiin |
| 17:38.02 | Fisker- | failsraidframes is faaaaaail |
| 17:38.03 | erikh | ah |
| 17:38.09 | Fisker- | also ze germans |
| 17:38.24 | Fisker- | oh and a GM :3 |
| 17:38.39 | [SW]Dodge | <3 Thalidra, shes a nelf drood! |
| 17:38.47 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 17:38.49 | [SW]Dodge | thalidara |
| 17:38.50 | nevcairiel | as am i :) |
| 17:38.52 | Trela | I do not have any more of my in raid pictures. :x |
| 17:38.52 | Fisker- | What is she saying? |
| 17:38.54 | [SW]Dodge | yea |
| 17:38.54 | erikh | too |
| 17:38.56 | Fisker- | druids suck btw |
| 17:39.01 | erikh | meh |
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| 17:39.11 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: she just watched us kill brutallus |
| 17:39.15 | nevcairiel | and felmyst |
| 17:39.17 | Spennig | K, i'll just end up needing to find a simple mod that just lets me rescale and move the rollbar, then. teksloot worked for last night, but made me want to beat my head on my desk |
| 17:39.24 | [SW]Dodge | nev you are german? |
| 17:39.25 | steino | Bruners: your ui is still so overkill :PPPP |
| 17:39.35 | steino | Bruners: http://www.stein-ivar.net/i/WoWScrnShot_092908_231528.jpg ;) |
| 17:39.36 | Bruners | steino: lies! |
| 17:39.39 | Fisker- | Looks like she's looking for a PUG for maggi |
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| 17:39.43 | Fisker- | That's why i'm asking >:3 |
| 17:39.50 | nevcairiel | yeah that too |
| 17:39.50 | Fisker- | also did i mention that druids suck? |
| 17:39.55 | Repo | 10rating-buster: 03Whitetooth * r175 / (3 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 17:39.57 | Repo | RatingBuster: |
| 17:39.57 | Repo | - Release 1.4.0 |
| 17:39.58 | Repo | - toc to 30000 |
| 17:40.02 | Repo | - Updated "About RatingBuster.txt" with level 80 formulas |
| 17:40.02 | Bruners | steino: why havent you approved me on gtalk? |
| 17:40.03 | nevcairiel | [SW]Dodge: indeed |
| 17:40.06 | Spennig | ::grins:: I resemble that Fisker |
| 17:40.12 | steino | Bruners: cause I dont use gtalk |
| 17:40.13 | steino | :< |
| 17:40.16 | Trela | Bruners: I do like that skin you use for your chat. It matches what I use for my Minimap. Is that a Prat thing? |
| 17:40.47 | [SW]Dodge | nevcairiel: lol, i thought you are US :D |
| 17:40.50 | Stanzilla | [SW]Dodge: germans are evil! |
| 17:40.59 | Bruners | Trela: its eepanels, chatter and fane |
| 17:41.00 | Gnarfoz | yes, I am! |
| 17:41.03 | [SW]Dodge | Stanzilla: not! |
| 17:41.09 | Bruners | steino: slack! |
| 17:41.10 | Trela | Ah, more AddOns. |
| 17:41.14 | steino | Bruners: lies! |
| 17:41.19 | Bruners | steino: msn then? |
| 17:41.21 | Stanzilla | [SW]Dodge: :D |
| 17:41.24 | steino | Bruners: ye |
| 17:41.35 | Stanzilla | http://staneck.de/upload/files/caf390-WoWScrnShot_092308_212608.jpg |
| 17:41.36 | Stanzilla | mine |
| 17:41.40 | Xinhuan | what was the result of your pastey, Zeksie? |
| 17:41.59 | [SW]Dodge | http://sourceway.eu/netrox_ui.jpg <- my old ;3 |
| 17:42.14 | Fisker- | http://i37.tinypic.com/24q8jsh.jpg <-wingrid is win |
| 17:42.19 | Jygga | uhm can somebody tell me what "there were multiple problems saving data" means in the blizz torrent client? |
| 17:42.22 | nevcairiel | get a widescreen already [SW]Dodge |
| 17:42.25 | Arrowmaster | Whitetooth: you know if you would stop prefixing your commit messages with your addon name it wouldnt have beem trimmed in here and we would have seen the whole thing |
| 17:42.42 | [SW]Dodge | nevcairiel: no money :/ |
| 17:42.51 | *** part/#wowace sithy (n=sithy@gob75-5-82-231-181-76.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:43.01 | nevcairiel | also, your ss is a perfect example why buff bars suck |
| 17:43.03 | nevcairiel | i mean comeone |
| 17:43.07 | nevcairiel | the space they waste |
| 17:43.07 | nevcairiel | pff |
| 17:43.12 | [SW]Dodge | hehe |
| 17:43.13 | Bruners | http://ui.ipwn.se/i/72.jpg my really old one |
| 17:43.19 | Whitetooth | Arrowmaster: ok I think I will do that :p |
| 17:43.26 | [SW]Dodge | i decreased teh size in my current ui :) |
| 17:43.37 | Arrowmaster | Whitetooth: finally =D |
| 17:43.37 | Trela | Fisker-: Your bottom half is a black hole! |
| 17:43.47 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 17:43.52 | Gnarfoz | JY`: it means: use a real torrent client to get the files ^^ the blizz thingy seeds OSX files in the windows torrent, confusing the downloader |
| 17:44.09 | Fisker- | I don't like UI elements mixing with the enviroment |
| 17:44.14 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: your fubar/ldb/whatever buttons are too big =P |
| 17:44.23 | JY` | mmh |
| 17:44.28 | erikh | heh, here's a pre-bc one: http://erik.hollensbe.org/mobs.jpg |
| 17:44.32 | Fisker- | It's an old screenshot |
| 17:44.38 | Fisker- | Remade it after i got my 22" |
| 17:44.41 | erikh | can't find anything current, though. |
| 17:44.55 | Fisker- | Only grid, buffs and minimap outside the black area now |
| 17:44.55 | Trela | Gnarfoz: Where can I find the torrent? |
| 17:45.03 | Jygga | okay JY` now you know it"! |
| 17:45.10 | Jygga | but thanks Gnarfoz |
| 17:45.14 | Gnarfoz | Trela: \Cache\ sub dir of your wow install, I think. |
| 17:45.17 | Gnarfoz | also, a.wirebrain.de/wow/ :) |
| 17:45.39 | Trela | Thank you. :3 |
| 17:45.56 | Xinhuan | if i want to find out if Righteous Fury is active on myself... do i have to scan all my buffs? |
| 17:45.57 | Bruners | steino: failborder on unit frame is fail |
| 17:46.04 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: yes |
| 17:46.11 | Xinhuan | sigh |
| 17:46.19 | nevcairiel | or pay attention to gains |
| 17:46.22 | nevcairiel | and loses |
| 17:46.22 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 17:46.23 | Repo | 10rating-buster: 03Whitetooth 041.4.0 * r176 : Tagging as 1.4.0. |
| 17:46.31 | Xinhuan | i think i'll go with scanning buffs |
| 17:46.37 | Gnarfoz | wasn't there IsBuffActive? or is that SEA? |
| 17:46.38 | Jygga | and where does the blizz downloader put files these days? is it Patches or Updates or what? |
| 17:46.38 | Xinhuan | instead of parsing combat logs |
| 17:46.43 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: thats SEA |
| 17:46.48 | Gnarfoz | Jygga: Updates |
| 17:46.48 | Xinhuan | or parse gains/losses |
| 17:47.00 | peteskiski | so @nev your gunna add the xp bar back into bar4?? |
| 17:47.07 | steino | Bruners: lies! its pwetty |
| 17:47.15 | nevcairiel | peteskiski: its already back in the version for 3.0 |
| 17:47.16 | Adirelle | technically, there is no more parsing anymore |
| 17:47.20 | Jygga | hm because the thing it told me its downloading up to 95% (stage3 worth 1.5gb) is not there |
| 17:47.29 | Adirelle | s/no more/no combat log/ |
| 17:47.31 | nevcairiel | peteskiski: so wait 2-3 days for 3.0 to hit the servers, and you get it |
| 17:47.32 | Gnarfoz | Jygga: yes, it keeps re-downloading it |
| 17:47.32 | Bruners | steino: msg me your msn then |
| 17:47.42 | peteskiski | when did that come out.. i just downloaded it like 3 days gao |
| 17:47.46 | Gnarfoz | Jygga: blizz is seeding wrong files on the torrent that don't match the checksums |
| 17:47.48 | peteskiski | oh ok |
| 17:47.59 | Jygga | no when i run it again it does a hashcheck on something i cant dind |
| 17:48.03 | nevcairiel | peteskiski: supposedly its being patched this week |
| 17:48.06 | Jygga | s/dind/find |
| 17:48.07 | nevcairiel | who knows what will happen |
| 17:48.14 | Xinhuan | actually scanning buffs seems is tricky too, UnitBuff doesn't return the buff spellid ~_~ |
| 17:48.16 | Primer | Sigh, I guess it's time to try a new action bar addon. Any recommendations? |
| 17:48.17 | Gnarfoz | Jygga: yeah, because it itself deleted it ^^ |
| 17:48.28 | Bruners | steino: gtalk>msn |
| 17:48.31 | Spennig | What are you using now Primer? |
| 17:48.31 | Adirelle | Xinhuan: scanning buff, on live or 3.0 ? |
| 17:48.31 | Jygga | but it isnt downloading anything for the first 95% Oo |
| 17:48.34 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: it's GetSpellInfo all over again :[ |
| 17:48.35 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: get the localized name from GetSpellInfo? :) |
| 17:48.35 | Xinhuan | 3.0 |
| 17:48.36 | peteskiski | what can i use in the mean time to see my xp bar |
| 17:48.53 | Primer | Spennig: I was using Bongos, which I loved, but it's been discontinued, so I'm using its replacement, Dominos |
| 17:48.54 | Gnarfoz | Jygga: yeah, that's just how torrents work ;) |
| 17:48.57 | Primer | which...sucks |
| 17:48.57 | Adirelle | Xinhuan: doesn't UnitBuff(GetSpellInf(spellId)) works ? |
| 17:49.06 | Adirelle | I thought it was in the buff API revamp |
| 17:49.08 | Gnarfoz | Adirelle: it should =) |
| 17:49.13 | Jygga | Gnarfoz no it isnt ... |
| 17:49.20 | nevcairiel | peteskiski: i like xparky, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8259-Xparky.html |
| 17:49.21 | Spennig | Primer: which features do you want? |
| 17:49.26 | Xinhuan | are u sure how UnitBuff works in 3.0? |
| 17:49.36 | Gnarfoz | Jygga: huh? of course it is. if part of a torrent fails the hash check, it's downloaded again |
| 17:49.41 | Jygga | even torrents cant recover data that some blizz downloader "deleted itself" ^^ |
| 17:49.46 | nevcairiel | functionality of UnitBuff wasnt changed |
| 17:49.46 | RaydenU | so patch on tuesday |
| 17:49.51 | Xinhuan | name, rank, icon, count, debuffType, duration, expirationTime, isMine, isStealable = UnitBuff(unit, buffIndex[, castable]) |
| 17:49.51 | nevcairiel | only the return values were |
| 17:49.53 | Jygga | Gnarfoz but it doesnt! ^^ |
| 17:49.54 | Adirelle | Xinhuan: test it ? ^^ |
| 17:49.57 | RaydenU | druid tanking gear won't be affected until LK right? not the patch? |
| 17:50.00 | Xinhuan | it says nothing about spellIDs |
| 17:50.03 | Jygga | the error is that "some data couldnt be saved" |
| 17:50.06 | nevcairiel | RaydenU: patch |
| 17:50.07 | Xinhuan | the inputs are simply an index number |
| 17:50.11 | RaydenU | oh cool. i guess |
| 17:50.12 | Adirelle | not spell id, spell name |
| 17:50.12 | Xinhuan | from 1 to N |
| 17:50.15 | Adirelle | lemme check |
| 17:50.15 | RaydenU | will get to see the changes earlier |
| 17:50.17 | Primer | Spennig: I just want bars that I can move, resize, and assign key binds |
| 17:50.22 | RaydenU | i get to be nerfed sooner than i thought :D |
| 17:50.38 | nevcairiel | its not really a nerf, imho |
| 17:50.40 | Jygga | i just want to find that pile of wasted storage space and download it by http or sth ^^ |
| 17:50.43 | *** join/#wowace Shirik|Ecole (i=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
| 17:50.43 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 17:50.51 | Arrowmaster | blizzard needs to make GameTooltip:GetSpell() return spellid too |
| 17:50.51 | nevcairiel | you lose some armor, get reduction through talents |
| 17:50.59 | Spennig | Primer: If you don't mind finding the separate rollbar, i'd say hit Bartender4, I switched from Bongoes to Bartender a while ago and haven't looked back. |
| 17:51.25 | Jygga | the file that the downloader tells me it is downloading doesnt exist but it keeps doing hashchecks on it when i start the downloader again -.- |
| 17:51.36 | nevcairiel | cant Dominos do what you want Primer? I didnt actually use it, but tuller isnt stupid =P |
| 17:51.37 | Jygga | fubar |
| 17:51.38 | Fisker- | let's all ask Shirik|Ecole how blizzcon is |
| 17:51.47 | Adirelle | nevcairiel, Xinhuan: look how Tekkub check buff here : http://github.com/tekkub/cork/tree/master/templates/SelfBuffer.lua#L14 |
| 17:51.53 | Shirik|Ecole | nevcairiel, I don't have ops here |
| 17:51.54 | Adirelle | he uses the spell name |
| 17:51.56 | Shirik|Ecole | can you kick Fisker- please? |
| 17:52.00 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 17:52.04 | *** kick/#wowace [Fisker-!i=nevcairi@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/nevcairiel] by nevcairiel (Thanks for your visit) |
| 17:52.06 | Adirelle | it's 3.0 code and it works |
| 17:52.07 | Jygga | anyway thanks for trying Gnarfoz 8/ |
| 17:52.18 | Primer | nevcairiel: I know he's not, but there's a few bugs in his 2.4.3 version |
| 17:52.23 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 17:52.24 | *** join/#wowace Fisker- (i=ballmer@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 17:52.26 | Primer | nevcairiel: and it hasn't been updated since July |
| 17:52.27 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 17:52.28 | Shirik|Ecole | <3 <3 <3 |
| 17:52.33 | Gnarfoz | well, it behaves like I said for me, so I'm out of ideas. I got my files via the torrent and it accepted them |
| 17:52.36 | Fisker- | why so hostile? |
| 17:52.44 | Gnarfoz | why so blizzcon? |
| 17:52.49 | Fisker- | Shibot can't hurt me :3 |
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| 17:52.51 | peteskiski | fisker what server u play on |
| 17:52.56 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: its easy to test anyway |
| 17:52.57 | Primer | Spennig: You mean where the items show up for greed/need/pass? |
| 17:53.00 | RaydenU | <nevcairiel> its not really a nerf, imho <-- i know druids will be getting buffed in other places. I welcome the changes, however it is a little disappointing to see that gear i worked hard for will now be "useless" |
| 17:53.02 | Kazie | Is it just me or is Pitbull bugging like hell from the LibDogTag something? |
| 17:53.11 | RaydenU | even if i will be stronger in the end |
| 17:53.11 | Xinhuan | ya i guess |
| 17:53.12 | Shirik|Ecole | ok I have to catch my flight so |
| 17:53.16 | Shirik|Ecole | Byes!!! |
| 17:53.18 | Fisker- | peteskiski ravencrest eu |
| 17:53.26 | Fisker- | bye Shirik|Ecole (hows blizzcon) |
| 17:53.28 | Spennig | Primer: Yes, i'm hunting a good one to move that, at the moment. teksloot isn't -bad- just not what i want. |
| 17:54.29 | Primer | Spennig: Bongos was great for all of these frames |
| 17:54.38 | *** join/#wowace Daemoen (n=Daemoen@c-98-234-126-198.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 17:54.43 | Xinhuan | so UnitAura("player", "Righteous Fury") |
| 17:54.49 | Xinhuan | should be sufficient to tell if the player has that buff |
| 17:54.50 | Primer | And Dominos isn't too different from it, but it's different enough for me to dislike it |
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| 17:54.52 | Daemoen | hey guys, anyone else here use poisonfu? |
| 17:54.57 | Primer | Spennig: for example, I want hidden bars |
| 17:54.59 | nevcairiel | try it with AI first :p |
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| 17:55.03 | Spennig | Primer: It was ok, I liked Bartender3 better, for several features, especially the GUI to adjust things. |
| 17:55.07 | Xinhuan | AI works |
| 17:55.13 | Jygga | Gnarfoz i got it -.- |
| 17:55.18 | Primer | Bongos could do this, Dominos can only make the bar transparent, but it's still clickable |
| 17:55.22 | Adirelle | Xinhuan: and it is an"intended change": http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202271194&pageNo=1&sid=1#7 |
| 17:55.24 | nevcairiel | Spennig: people actually liked the popups? o.O |
| 17:55.25 | Xinhuan | now i don't have a death knight, not sure if frost presence is a buff |
| 17:55.34 | Bruners | current ui as of just now http://ui.ipwn.se/i/238.jpg |
| 17:55.43 | Spennig | nevcairiel: popups? |
| 17:55.48 | nevcairiel | dropdowns |
| 17:55.51 | nevcairiel | whatever you call them |
| 17:56.17 | Spennig | Oh, ::shrugs:: I liked how you had it setup :-p |
| 17:56.27 | Spennig | I could be odd though, wouldn't be the first time |
| 17:56.37 | nevcairiel | btw Xinhuan, dunno if you catched it earlier, shirik talked to zoot about the change, but he wasnt sure if it was intended or a bug, and wanted to talk to slouken and probably get back to us on the forums later =P |
| 17:56.50 | Daemoen | and could use some assistance with poison fu, got my weapons enchanted, and now poisonfu is borked |
| 17:57.04 | Xinhuan | ok nevcairiel |
| 17:57.17 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: sounds like nothing's gonna happen, to me! ;D |
| 17:57.19 | Xinhuan | you're talking about the LoD thing yeah? |
| 17:57.23 | nevcairiel | ya |
| 17:57.27 | Primer | So, can bartender have separate bars, be able to be resized and arbitrarily placed, have them be completely hidden (for use with keybinds only), and have a bar be hidden until in combat? |
| 17:57.36 | Spennig | Yes |
| 17:57.37 | Spennig | http://www.guildawakened.net/AshPics/UI/WoWScrnShot_101208_134527.jpg |
| 17:57.47 | nevcairiel | Primer: depends how you define "resized" |
| 17:57.54 | nevcairiel | cant have more then 12 buttons |
| 17:57.54 | Spennig | is mine, the bar o nthe right side is autobar, the rest of the bars showing are BT4 |
| 17:58.12 | Daemoen | can scale the size though :-D |
| 17:58.22 | Daemoen | loves his bt4 now that he figured out how to do kb's |
| 17:58.27 | Primer | nevcairiel: Bongos/Dominos has a scale slider |
| 17:58.28 | Spennig | yes, and length of bars up to 12, and shiny things |
| 17:58.35 | nevcairiel | Primer: oh yeah scale is in |
| 17:58.52 | Primer | excellent, I'm giving it a try |
| 17:58.55 | nevcairiel | Primer: Show/Hide was vastly improved in the 3.0 version, you can hide/show it on any conditions now |
| 17:59.05 | nevcairiel | presets for combat/noncombat and other stuff, too |
| 17:59.05 | RaydenU | does bartender 3 now allow for more than 12 bars? |
| 17:59.06 | Primer | So 4 is for WotLK? |
| 17:59.14 | nevcairiel | Primer: for both, actually |
| 17:59.18 | Primer | ahhh cool |
| 17:59.22 | nevcairiel | but some of the new features are only in the wotlk version |
| 17:59.23 | Spennig | my UI shot was with BT4 |
| 17:59.35 | nevcairiel | RaydenU: 10 bars with 12 buttons each, not more |
| 17:59.36 | RaydenU | or BT4, more than 12 bars? plz? |
| 17:59.38 | RaydenU | ugh |
| 17:59.41 | RaydenU | i want more bars |
| 17:59.42 | Primer | OMG I got a curse client ad!! |
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| 17:59.59 | Daemoen | nevcairiel: would it be possible to hide it until a target is selected and then show specific bars? |
| 18:00.04 | Daemoen | if so, how would you do that :-D |
| 18:00.11 | nevcairiel | RaydenU: maybe at a later point, its not as easy as one might think .. blizzard only gives you 120 buttons to store stuff on |
| 18:00.22 | nevcairiel | Daemoen: with the WotLK version thats possible, yeah |
| 18:00.24 | Fisker- | i want over 9000 bars :( |
| 18:00.29 | RaydenU | for druid: casting bar, healing bar, kitty bar, kitty finisher bar, stealth bar, bear bar, potions bar, misc bar, dailies bar, i'm sure i have something else i use |
| 18:00.38 | Primer | Heh, seems that my addon is updated in the curse client, and it's "-nolib" |
| 18:00.39 | Gnarfoz | wtf? |
| 18:00.40 | RaydenU | nevcairiel that's fine. give me fewer buttons per bar then. |
| 18:00.50 | Daemoen | RaydenU: you can already change buttons |
| 18:00.55 | Primer | So what determines if some package is -nolib? |
| 18:00.59 | RaydenU | can i have 20 bars with 6 buttons each? |
| 18:01.12 | erikh | RaydenU: autobar (pots, dailies, etc) + bartender (stances) works well enough for me |
| 18:01.27 | RaydenU | hmm |
| 18:01.32 | Daemoen | thought that was possible, but not sure * points at nev * |
| 18:01.33 | RaydenU | maybe if i get something else for dailies and whatnot |
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| 18:01.35 | nevcairiel | Daemoen: you can use all macro conditions to show/hide bars, so you would probably use ..: [target=target,exists]show;hide |
| 18:01.47 | erikh | it'll pickup the daily items |
| 18:01.54 | Daemoen | ahh |
| 18:02.02 | RaydenU | screenshots of autobar? |
| 18:02.11 | nevcairiel | RaydenU: i want to do dynamic bars at some point, but i didnt get around to it yet, sadly. |
| 18:02.21 | RaydenU | that's cool. just saying it's something i wish i could have |
| 18:02.29 | RaydenU | i like having lots of bars i can switch basedon context |
| 18:02.36 | RaydenU | alt- i use for finishers |
| 18:02.40 | KriLL3 | is there an addon out there that gives a button on your bars that shows another bar on/off? I'd like something like that for emotes |
| 18:02.56 | KriLL3 | "drop down" so to speak |
| 18:03.07 | RaydenU | also, this is a little more complex, but allow for alt modifier based on context. When I'm in bear i'd like alt to switch to a different bar than when i'm cat. Make sense? |
| 18:03.29 | nevcairiel | hm yeah |
| 18:03.31 | Lukian | RaydenU, just use macros? :p |
| 18:03.32 | nevcairiel | you can do that actually |
| 18:03.41 | nevcairiel | just needs a custom macro |
| 18:03.45 | RaydenU | really? I couldn't figure it out on BT2 or 3 or whatever i do |
| 18:03.46 | Repo | 10instance-maps: 038tImER 04InstanceMaps-r47 * r47 : tagging as beta |
| 18:03.49 | RaydenU | oh. that's a pain |
| 18:03.52 | RaydenU | :P |
| 18:03.53 | Daemoen | hates the alt/ctrl binding thingy.. makes one hell of a mess with his setup |
| 18:03.56 | nevcairiel | not what you think |
| 18:04.02 | Daemoen | im curious how you guys all manage to use so many buttons :-D |
| 18:04.05 | nevcairiel | its new in BT4 for WotLK |
| 18:04.15 | nevcairiel | You can use macro conditions to control the page changing |
| 18:04.28 | RaydenU | Daemoen like i said: caster bar, healing bar, kitty bar, kitty stealth bar, kitty finisher bar, bear bar, another bear bar, potions, misc |
| 18:04.28 | nevcairiel | so you would do.. |
| 18:04.32 | RaydenU | oh. cool |
| 18:04.37 | KriLL3 | Daemoen: I'm a druid, need 2 bars in caster, and 1.5 in cat & bear, only needed one in TBC for forms :< |
| 18:04.39 | erikh | Daemoen: 1-9, 0, alt 1-5, ctrl 1-5, shift 1-5, f1-f5 |
| 18:04.46 | KriLL3 | RaydenU: kittystealth isn't needed |
| 18:04.48 | KriLL3 | make macros |
| 18:04.57 | Daemoen | erikh: yuck :-D |
| 18:04.59 | KriLL3 | I got rake/pounce and shred/ravage |
| 18:04.59 | RaydenU | oh yeah, i use another bar for druid shapeshifting, so i can use shift[1-5] for my forms |
| 18:05.05 | RaydenU | KriLL3 how do you set it up? |
| 18:05.09 | KriLL3 | I got rake/pounce and shred/ravage |
| 18:05.10 | erikh | Daemoen: I only need to move my hand for the 6-9 stuff |
| 18:05.13 | RaydenU | just use different abilities? |
| 18:05.18 | RaydenU | mm. |
| 18:05.20 | RaydenU | guess i could |
| 18:05.23 | nevcairiel | --> switches to bar5 on alt in bear, to bar 6 on alt in cat: [stance:1,mod:alt]5;[stance:3,mod:alt]6; |
| 18:05.23 | Daemoen | redefined all of his key stuff long time ago... uses numpad for walking, and a left hand numpad type layout for skills/etc |
| 18:05.24 | RaydenU | that i could do actually |
| 18:05.26 | erikh | which is nice when you're spamming LB nonstop |
| 18:05.28 | KriLL3 | #showtooltip [stealth] Ravage; Shred; |
| 18:05.29 | RaydenU | i still like having my finishers on alt |
| 18:05.29 | KriLL3 | #show [stealth] Ravage; Shred; |
| 18:05.31 | KriLL3 | /cast [stealth] Ravage; Shred; |
| 18:05.35 | KriLL3 | sorry about wall of text |
| 18:05.37 | RaydenU | i should do that |
| 18:05.41 | RaydenU | i never got around to macro'ing my druid |
| 18:05.56 | KriLL3 | RaydenU: I did from the start when using blizz bars that didn't page on stealth |
| 18:05.56 | Repo | 10instance-maps: 038tImER 04r48 * r48 : tagging as beta, again. |
| 18:05.58 | nevcairiel | being abel to use any macro conditions for paging will allow you to do anything |
| 18:06.13 | RaydenU | nevcairiel you can use macros to specify bars? that's cool |
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| 18:06.23 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: #showtooltip implies #show, you can save one line there |
| 18:06.28 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 18:06.37 | Primer | nevcairiel: is there an option to make the bars not go beyong the screen edge? |
| 18:06.37 | RaydenU | nevcairiel i look forward to playing with BT4 |
| 18:06.49 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: which line btw? =P |
| 18:07.17 | nevcairiel | Primer: not right now, i took it out some time because people complained they couldnt move it exactly on the edge, might add it back in with a option, though |
| 18:07.30 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: the one with #show =P |
| 18:07.30 | RaydenU | nevcairiel you work on BT alone? |
| 18:07.34 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 18:07.35 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 18:08.03 | Primer | nevcairiel: yeah, because it's very tedious to get it into where I want it when they don't snap into place |
| 18:08.22 | nevcairiel | Primer: the 3.0 version snaps to the inner border of the worldframe and UIParent |
| 18:08.24 | nevcairiel | if that helps |
| 18:08.27 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: you could add it back and set the clamp region to be a few pixels too small |
| 18:08.35 | KriLL3 | anyone knows the author of mr.plow and can spank him to ensure it knows if your bags are profession bags? |
| 18:08.36 | Primer | also, can it disable the default bars? Seems it didn't do this |
| 18:08.55 | nevcairiel | no it doesnt, you have to disable them by yourself .. but i guess i could add that |
| 18:09.12 | RaydenU | what was the BT3 "roll" bar? |
| 18:09.15 | Primer | just curious, as bongos/dominos did this by default |
| 18:09.37 | nevcairiel | RaydenU: you could move the group-loot frame, aka where you press "need" "greed" "pass" |
| 18:09.41 | erikh | i hate cleaning up backups. |
| 18:09.49 | Spennig | RaydenU: It was just an option to move and scalle the loot-roll popup thing |
| 18:09.52 | RaydenU | huh |
| 18:09.53 | RaydenU | didn't know that |
| 18:10.21 | RaydenU | nevcairiel have you been testing BT4 in the wrath beta? |
| 18:10.32 | nevcairiel | I totally modified it for the beta |
| 18:10.47 | RaydenU | it would be nice if all my mobs were wrath compatible on launch |
| 18:10.56 | RaydenU | and also, while i'm dreaming i'd like a pony |
| 18:11.06 | erikh | it'd be nice if I didn't have to work 40 hours a week, too |
| 18:11.07 | Shefki | Stanzilla: You were looking for me? |
| 18:11.20 | Stanzilla | Shefki: yes, priv msg inc :) |
| 18:11.24 | Shefki | k |
| 18:11.27 | nevcairiel | RaydenU: i'll push my wrath version out when the patch hits, no worries |
| 18:11.35 | RaydenU | yeah, sounds awesome |
| 18:11.55 | KriLL3 | RaydenU: omgpwnies! |
| 18:12.15 | RaydenU | it's always so much fun when you load up a new patch and 5 minutes in WoW tells you, your mods are spawning too many errors and it is slowing down wow, do i want to shut them all off? |
| 18:12.24 | KriLL3 | yeah |
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| 18:12.33 | Industrial | ~seen nimbal |
| 18:12.36 | purl | nimbal <n=chatzill@p5488DE87.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 20d 7h 8m 25s ago, saying: 'Oh... well, that explains it. Though it is strange why it worked when I first saved something into a subtable. Thanks for the hint.'. |
| 18:12.43 | KriLL3 | "I don't like your addons, I'm removing em all." |
| 18:12.47 | erikh | I just signed back up after a 2 month hiatus... new curse updater is awesome, btw. anyways, I was wondering, did they ever patch out the trinket pop on cast macros? |
| 18:13.13 | erikh | e.g., I have a macro that casts lifebloom normally, and if a trinket is available, it pops it and then casts LB |
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| 18:13.38 | Industrial | .. why would they do that |
| 18:13.52 | Industrial | thats intended behaviour, because you put the trinket in the macro first |
| 18:13.53 | erikh | well, they've done weird shit like that in the past. |
| 18:13.56 | erikh | yeah. |
| 18:14.06 | erikh | the macros completely fail in arena, f.e. |
| 18:14.10 | Industrial | why |
| 18:14.18 | erikh | same with my nature's swiftness + HT macro |
| 18:14.34 | erikh | i can't give you a technical answer, other than my obnoxiously low rating :) |
| 18:14.57 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.01 | Industrial | lol |
| 18:15.10 | erikh | heh |
| 18:15.12 | nevcairiel | cant use two trinkets at once anymore :p |
| 18:15.16 | Industrial | i know |
| 18:15.20 | erikh | yeah, i know they patched that out |
| 18:15.23 | erikh | and the idol swap trick |
| 18:15.30 | RaydenU | ? |
| 18:15.43 | Industrial | but having two damage trinkets equipped and using them both in your direct damage spell makes it proc more then if you'd use its yourself |
| 18:15.45 | erikh | macro that swaps in harold's rejuv broach for rejuv, the lifebloom one for LB, etc. |
| 18:15.51 | Gnarfoz | swapping idols/librams interrupts casts |
| 18:15.54 | Industrial | ont just pops after the other's buff finishes |
| 18:16.01 | erikh | yep. it didn't used to, but does now |
| 18:16.01 | Industrial | one* |
| 18:16.35 | Industrial | nevcairiel: erm, because you might forget it yourself every 30/45 secs :3 |
| 18:16.40 | erikh | just wondering if they changed it. I'll just test when I'm done cleaning up these huge tarballs. |
| 18:16.50 | nevcairiel | i dont like click macros anyway |
| 18:16.53 | nevcairiel | i prefer passive ones =P |
| 18:17.05 | erikh | :) |
| 18:17.18 | Industrial | i just have two on use spellpower trinkets that I put on ym lightningbolt pewpew. |
| 18:17.41 | Cheads | Gnarfoz also trinkets |
| 18:17.57 | Gnarfoz | Cheads: ... can't swap trinkets in fight?! |
| 18:18.01 | Gnarfoz | duhhh :p |
| 18:18.10 | Cheads | no but you can out of combat |
| 18:18.13 | Gnarfoz | :X |
| 18:18.16 | Gnarfoz | yes. |
| 18:18.19 | Industrial | http://vashj-eu.warcrafter.net/Xamth |
| 18:18.19 | RaydenU | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_3.0.1 <-- why is the address 3.0.1 but the page is called 3.0.2? |
| 18:18.26 | Industrial | oh i logged out in pvp.. |
| 18:18.35 | Arrowmaster | because its a redirect? |
| 18:18.37 | nevcairiel | RaydenU: redirect |
| 18:18.37 | Cheads | and that can be annoying that casting is stopped, when you are about to start a fight |
| 18:18.37 | renchap | RaydenU: (Redirected from Patch 3.0.1) |
| 18:18.50 | RaydenU | oh. what happened to 3.0.1? |
| 18:18.58 | nevcairiel | it was patched to 3.0.2 |
| 18:19.00 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 18:19.09 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 18:19.14 | RaydenU | 3.0.2 is coming out tuesday supposedly? |
| 18:19.17 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 18:19.20 | Fisker- | 3.0.1 is just the patch that they ship with the golden master |
| 18:19.23 | RaydenU | so that wiki page is all wrong |
| 18:19.23 | KriLL3 | Wednesday actually |
| 18:19.28 | RaydenU | cause it talks about opening up northrend |
| 18:19.32 | RaydenU | and upping the level cap |
| 18:19.39 | Fisker- | They can't ship it with 3.0.2 since they have to start producing the discs early enough for the demand |
| 18:19.44 | nevcairiel | RaydenU: thats the official patch notes from Beta |
| 18:19.48 | nevcairiel | thats not wrong |
| 18:20.08 | nevcairiel | its just not what we get on wednesday :) |
| 18:20.12 | RaydenU | so what is the patch coming wednesday? |
| 18:20.12 | nevcairiel | or tuesday for US |
| 18:20.17 | nevcairiel | 3.0.2 too |
| 18:20.20 | nevcairiel | just with different notes |
| 18:20.25 | RaydenU | 3.0.2 for BC vs 3.0.2 for LK |
| 18:20.29 | RaydenU | ? |
| 18:20.31 | KriLL3 | talents, etc |
| 18:20.39 | nevcairiel | its the same patch really |
| 18:20.42 | KriLL3 | is inscription in the patch or in the bp? |
| 18:20.55 | RaydenU | just somethings will be limited if you don't have LK |
| 18:21.01 | nevcairiel | except that you need to unlock your account for LK content |
| 18:21.06 | KriLL3 | level cap, northrend |
| 18:21.12 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: up to 375 in the patch already |
| 18:21.29 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: but can you pick inscription prior to buying LK? |
| 18:21.33 | fewyn | yes |
| 18:21.34 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 18:21.40 | nevcairiel | up to 375 =P |
| 18:21.41 | fewyn | inscriptions is not a wotlk only thing |
| 18:21.42 | KriLL3 | ah, so we'll have glyphs? |
| 18:21.45 | fewyn | yep |
| 18:21.45 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 18:21.51 | fewyn | it's a BC thing tho |
| 18:21.53 | nevcairiel | 2 majors on lvl 70 |
| 18:21.58 | nevcairiel | 3 on 80, then |
| 18:22.01 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 18:22.18 | KriLL3 | I wounder what inscription level is needed for the glyphs |
| 18:22.26 | Gnarfoz | ~seen kemayo |
| 18:22.27 | purl | kemayo is currently on #wowuidev #wowace #curseforge, last said: 'Industrial: Yeah, I never really "released" BetterQuest. More like sneakily put it onto trunk and started ignoring QuestsFu.'. |
| 18:22.32 | KriLL3 | if any cool glyphs need 70+ to make it would be a shame |
| 18:22.32 | nevcairiel | http://wotlk.wowhead.com KriLL3 :P |
| 18:22.35 | fewyn | go look it up on wowhead KriLL3 |
| 18:22.45 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: alot need skill 400, of the cool ones :( |
| 18:22.50 | Gnarfoz | last said... when! |
| 18:22.54 | Gnarfoz | PURL! MORE INFO! |
| 18:22.55 | fewyn | but there are some semi useful ones |
| 18:22.57 | RaydenU | they are adding real practice dummies in wrath? awesome |
| 18:23.06 | Gnarfoz | Kemayo: ping-a-ling |
| 18:23.08 | nevcairiel | (20:22:56) —› Kemayo has been idle for 6days 10hrs 14mins 52secs |
| 18:23.08 | nevcairiel | (20:22:56) —› Kemayo signed on 6days 10hrs 14mins 48secs ago |
| 18:23.14 | nevcairiel | he doesn talk much |
| 18:23.21 | Gnarfoz | maybe he died. |
| 18:23.22 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 18:23.23 | fewyn | yep RaydenU |
| 18:23.29 | Arrowmaster | im gona have to go inscription for the random darkmoon card stuff for getting exalted with darkmmon |
| 18:23.30 | fewyn | they are cool but not great for real testing |
| 18:23.35 | nevcairiel | RaydenU: yup, in every major city, its nice |
| 18:23.41 | KriLL3 | yay all i want are 375 or bellow :D |
| 18:23.42 | Gnarfoz | I just want him to close the InstanceMaps ticket ;p |
| 18:23.43 | RaydenU | why not great? |
| 18:23.47 | Gnarfoz | because I fix'd it |
| 18:24.04 | fewyn | because more than one person can be on it and it doesn't similate taking damage at the same time as doing it |
| 18:24.30 | fewyn | the dummy doesn't move either or anything special |
| 18:24.36 | nevcairiel | its a dummy |
| 18:24.39 | nevcairiel | why would it move |
| 18:24.40 | fewyn | it's more of trying to see the highest you can get |
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| 18:24.43 | RaydenU | well yeah |
| 18:24.48 | RaydenU | it's good for theorycrafting though |
| 18:24.49 | nevcairiel | you can test your rotations |
| 18:24.51 | KriLL3 | I want a fighting mech! |
| 18:24.52 | fewyn | you'll never see the same numbers |
| 18:24.57 | fewyn | on a real fight |
| 18:25.00 | RaydenU | it's an optimal case |
| 18:25.02 | Fisker- | hell marches over nevcairiel |
| 18:25.25 | KriLL3 | I want a steam powered gnomish contraption |
| 18:25.44 | RaydenU | hmm |
| 18:25.48 | RaydenU | rip at 5 points now |
| 18:26.09 | Arrowmaster | oh man this isnt going to be fair in wotlk, fishing pole duels are gona be rigged against me |
| 18:26.11 | KriLL3 | pve will be SR/Rip every second finisher I guess |
| 18:26.23 | fewyn | yep KriLL3 |
| 18:26.26 | fewyn | that's how to do it |
| 18:26.30 | fewyn | do it at 4 points tho |
| 18:26.33 | KriLL3 | maim is powerful in pvp now that it doesn't break on dmg |
| 18:26.38 | fewyn | otherwise you might waste a combo point |
| 18:26.49 | KriLL3 | fewyn: if you crit? |
| 18:26.57 | fewyn | yea |
| 18:27.06 | fewyn | it's more optimal to shred to 4 then use a finisher |
| 18:27.14 | Primer | oh boy, no castbar... |
| 18:27.29 | Primer | nevcairiel: no castbar in bartender? |
| 18:27.34 | KriLL3 | I'm looking forward to locking down some mages with maim and treating them to a vigorous backrub, WITH MY CLAWS |
| 18:27.43 | Arrowmaster | Primer: never |
| 18:27.49 | KriLL3 | it's never been part of it |
| 18:27.57 | KriLL3 | I suggest quartz |
| 18:27.58 | Primer | uhh, I have no castbar |
| 18:28.04 | Arrowmaster | you should |
| 18:28.04 | KriLL3 | quartz |
| 18:28.11 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt remove the castbar |
| 18:28.13 | RaydenU | shit |
| 18:28.18 | Primer | I can't stand the default castbar and I _must_ be able to move it |
| 18:28.20 | Arrowmaster | and the castbar isnt part of the default bar interface |
| 18:28.20 | RaydenU | growl has a 20 yard range now? |
| 18:28.24 | Primer | this is a showstopper |
| 18:28.29 | KriLL3 | Primer: quartz... |
| 18:28.30 | Arrowmaster | Primer: so get quartz |
| 18:28.33 | nevcairiel | Primer: if you cant stand the default, get quartz |
| 18:28.39 | Primer | roger |
| 18:29.07 | Primer | man, curse client hangs a lot |
| 18:29.23 | Primer | seems as if the UI hangs on network I/O |
| 18:29.28 | KriLL3 | I like that PB doesn't have a cast bar, way too many addons try to be everything for everyone and thus being bloated and or over extended |
| 18:29.41 | KriLL3 | *BT |
| 18:29.57 | Fisker- | not like you need threading Primer |
| 18:30.07 | Primer | who said anything about threading? |
| 18:30.14 | Primer | you don't need threading to do that... |
| 18:32.40 | Industrial | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=sZZxf0tMuhf0c |
| 18:32.48 | Industrial | um, am i reading Judgement of the Wise right? is that right? |
| 18:33.02 | Industrial | 100% chance to 33% of my base mana returned? |
| 18:33.07 | Industrial | on any judgement? |
| 18:33.11 | Kazie | is it serious that WAU has been replaced by CurseClient? :O |
| 18:33.22 | sb | it is |
| 18:33.23 | Industrial | Kazie: yes read wowace.com/forums |
| 18:33.26 | KriLL3 | y so srs? |
| 18:33.32 | nevcairiel | Industrial: yea, but your base mana isnt that high |
| 18:33.38 | nevcairiel | but srsly, ret pallys dont go OOM anymore |
| 18:33.44 | Industrial | thats like |
| 18:33.45 | Industrial | woa |
| 18:33.52 | Industrial | still how much K is that |
| 18:34.00 | Industrial | or do i not understand base mana |
| 18:34.04 | KriLL3 | ret palas going oom was the only redeeming thing about them |
| 18:34.04 | Kazie | Why? .. CurseClient doens't even install addons properly.. it even installs 4-5 addons you don't even want not to mention it ruins the addons you already have... :o |
| 18:34.07 | nevcairiel | about 1k on 80 |
| 18:34.08 | nevcairiel | iirc |
| 18:34.11 | Industrial | daaamn |
| 18:34.20 | Industrial | oh base mana is without gear?> |
| 18:34.25 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 18:34.28 | nevcairiel | without gear and buffs |
| 18:34.29 | KriLL3 | good morning |
| 18:34.31 | Industrial | hmmm |
| 18:34.38 | Industrial | thats a bit loew then indeed |
| 18:34.43 | Industrial | but still no oom = win |
| 18:34.56 | KriLL3 | palas should have to pay for that much dps |
| 18:34.57 | Kazie | industrial no.. it's not even close to beeing low |
| 18:35.07 | Spennig | Kazie: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14404 |
| 18:35.26 | Industrial | Kazie: dunno, howmuch do spells cost in wotlk? at 80? ;) |
| 18:35.26 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: what much dps. lol |
| 18:35.34 | Industrial | Gnarfoz: lmao |
| 18:35.46 | Gnarfoz | they only CAN do good dps now because they don't go OOM |
| 18:35.47 | Kazie | Industrial: Not much more than it does now.. BMP compared to SC |
| 18:35.54 | Gnarfoz | if you take that away, dps goes away, too. |
| 18:35.57 | Industrial | hmm |
| 18:36.17 | Gnarfoz | ret dps in 2.4.3 is limited by... mana! |
| 18:36.34 | KriLL3 | and it seems they retain mana better in LK |
| 18:36.36 | Gnarfoz | and it's only competitive with highest end gear :X |
| 18:36.37 | Kazie | Industrial: I have not played beta, but i have tried the PTR.. i get ~950 mana pr. judgement sometimes way more duo to diffrent combinations of spells.. |
| 18:36.51 | Kazie | that is more than enough to solo onyxia(yes i did that on ptr) |
| 18:36.55 | sb | Gnarfoz: +windfury :p |
| 18:37.04 | Saroz | ARGGG fucking curse client broke my pitbull now |
| 18:37.09 | Fisker- | I'm a PC |
| 18:37.16 | Kazie | Saroz: same here.. along wiht all my other addons |
| 18:37.19 | Saroz | ye |
| 18:37.24 | Saroz | fucking bullshit crap shit fuck |
| 18:37.28 | Primer | I'm a PC too...except my PC runs Linux |
| 18:37.29 | Gnarfoz | sb: it's limited by windfury? |
| 18:37.34 | Saroz | and I dont want the fucking thing in 10000000 modules |
| 18:38.39 | Saroz | fix :S |
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| 18:40.45 | Industrial | Kazie: nice |
| 18:40.58 | Industrial | im leveling a pally, L21 |
| 18:41.06 | Industrial | just got my pally wep from the quest ^^ |
| 18:41.10 | Kazie | Industrial: It's pretty cool yes. |
| 18:41.13 | Industrial | its a human called Dredd :3 |
| 18:41.24 | Industrial | (judge dredd ;P) |
| 18:41.30 | KriLL3 | get a wig |
| 18:41.31 | Kazie | Industrial: I hope you're alliance then, cuz it's just a major timewaste for Blood Elves. |
| 18:41.43 | Industrial | why timewaster? |
| 18:41.44 | Kazie | Ahh h ood |
| 18:41.46 | Industrial | and yes im human |
| 18:42.12 | Industrial | http://vashj-eu.warcrafter.net/Dredd |
| 18:42.15 | Kazie | because you get a better 2h sword from the last quest in Ghostlands, than the Polearm from the blood elf paladin quest. |
| 18:42.28 | Industrial | oh yea |
| 18:42.44 | Industrial | but you can just get the mace from deadmines with 11 str on it anyway |
| 18:42.53 | Industrial | i just want it for fun :3 |
| 18:42.55 | Arrowmaster | the bloodelf one is like lvl 23 but the alliance one is lvl 35 |
| 18:42.59 | Industrial | im also going to get the L60 armor |
| 18:43.23 | Industrial | difference between the deadmines mace and pally mace is +5dps -11str for the pallymace |
| 18:43.42 | Industrial | so i'd argue the deadmines one is even better :p |
| 18:43.52 | KriLL3 | would be nice if druid white dmg scaled with weapons... |
| 18:43.54 | Kazie | Arrowmaster: That's besides the point really ^^ the point is that it's not worth getting the weapon from your quest as Blood Elf. But if you're alliance it might be. |
| 18:44.01 | KriLL3 | love hitting for 200~ |
| 18:44.20 | KriLL3 | rake does more dmg |
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| 18:44.35 | Kazie | KriLL3: Then you wouldn't have your insane amount of AP |
| 18:44.37 | Arrowmaster | lvl 20 with SoC and the ghostlands sword is perty amazing though |
| 18:44.45 | Saroz | god kill me now, all ace mods that landed on curse are broken to shit |
| 18:44.53 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?compare=6953;7230 |
| 18:44.58 | Kazie | Arrowmaster: Yes, that's why nobody bothers to get the Polearm from the paladin quest. |
| 18:45.27 | Arrowmaster | the sword really gives SoC the nickname Seal of Chance |
| 18:45.37 | Arrowmaster | chance to 2shot mobs at that level with it |
| 18:45.48 | Zeksie | and equal chance to be there for 2 mins |
| 18:45.54 | KriLL3 | Kazie: I no can haz cheezburger and eatz it? |
| 18:45.56 | Industrial | actually http://www.wowhead.com/?compare=6953;7230&weights=Paladin%20-%20Retribution%20(DPS);117:20:84:21:95:51:37:114;100:63:55:53:44:28:26:9 |
| 18:45.59 | Industrial | :p |
| 18:46.00 | Industrial | <3 wowhead comparisons |
| 18:46.20 | Chompers | you having problems too saroz? :< |
| 18:46.30 | Saroz | tons |
| 18:46.34 | Saroz | Parrot has no libs with it, wtf |
| 18:46.37 | Saroz | *bangs head on table* |
| 18:47.01 | Arrowmaster | Saroz: yeah the maintainer didnt put them in |
| 18:47.07 | Kazie | KriLL3: Yus! i mst has mny chizbuggers! |
| 18:47.16 | Saroz | *sigh* |
| 18:47.19 | Saroz | what a fucking mess |
| 18:47.40 | Saroz | even god damn Pitbull is fucked up |
| 18:47.56 | KriLL3 | I'll not run CC in a while then... |
| 18:48.17 | nevcairiel | the next version of CC will fix some of that |
| 18:48.18 | Kazie | CC is fucking everything up KriLL3 |
| 18:48.19 | Saroz | god I wish I had taken a backup |
| 18:48.23 | nevcairiel | you can set it to install Beta releases |
| 18:48.30 | Saroz | where |
| 18:48.34 | nevcairiel | and thus you get alot more up2date libs |
| 18:48.40 | nevcairiel | er |
| 18:48.43 | Saroz | I aint getting no libs |
| 18:48.43 | nevcairiel | up2date addons :P |
| 18:48.52 | nevcairiel | well thats another bug <.< |
| 18:48.56 | Saroz | *sigh* what fucking ever |
| 18:49.03 | Corgan | tackles Industrial |
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| 18:49.25 | KriLL3 | patchday is death of UI day? |
| 18:49.30 | nevcairiel | always |
| 18:49.35 | Saroz | it wouldnt be |
| 18:49.37 | Saroz | but now it is |
| 18:49.37 | Kazie | nevcairiel: I sure hope so.. i just tried it and my result was: None of my addons working properly after update through CC - CC installed 4-5 addons on its own, including Curseprofiler(WTF?!), and it couldn't even uninstall the addons again. |
| 18:49.40 | sb | nah its not |
| 18:49.41 | Corgan | Industrial, http://i33.tinypic.com/2v2w4.png |
| 18:49.42 | KriLL3 | goes to buy some lilies |
| 18:49.48 | Stanzilla | KriLL3: only with curseclient |
| 18:49.49 | Saroz | Thanks to CC it's gonna be a nightmare |
| 18:49.52 | Stanzilla | without, everything is ok :D |
| 18:49.54 | Zyndrome | but this time arond it's not as devastating as TBC release :p |
| 18:49.57 | Zyndrome | around* |
| 18:50.25 | Nimbal | Hi everyone |
| 18:50.35 | KriLL3 | luckily most of my UI doesn't require addons, they just make it spiffy |
| 18:50.51 | KriLL3 | I rely on macros and my bars aren't anything special |
| 18:50.53 | Saroz | cba with this shit, fix CC, cya on wednesday |
| 18:51.38 | Kazie | unfortunately for me.. i use Pitbull, BT4, CDB, BF, PP, SBF, SM - just to mention a few addons that is appearing on my addon almost all the time. |
| 18:52.10 | Stanzilla | Kazie: just download the zips from wowace |
| 18:52.42 | KriLL3 | I run a ton of addons, including most you listed, I don't need em all though |
| 18:52.52 | Groktar | nibbles on Kazie's soul |
| 18:52.53 | KriLL3 | I can make do with a bog standard UI in a pinch |
| 18:53.09 | KriLL3 | Groktar: is it bitter? |
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| 18:53.28 | Industrial | Corgan: :D? |
| 18:54.48 | Kazie | Stanzilla: It's not that i have anything towards downoading them manually.. because i can easily do that from files.wowace.com - The fact that CC just wrecked my WHOLE UI, even addons it didn't touch is what pissed me off.. i fucked up my whole WTF folder as well |
| 18:55.30 | sb | WWTTF |
| 18:55.31 | sb | http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/10/steelseries-wow-mmo-gaming-mouse-makes-wasting-your-life-that-mu/ |
| 18:55.32 | sb | WTB, NOW! :o |
| 18:55.34 | Industrial | This any good? http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=sZ0eVVc0xZxf0tMIhfMsg |
| 18:55.46 | sb | "The laser mouse hits on November 13th to coincide with the Lich King launch, and should retail "under $100."" |
| 18:55.57 | Kazie | Industrial: No |
| 18:56.10 | Industrial | 15 buttons, nice |
| 18:56.12 | Industrial | my MX1000 had 12 |
| 18:56.22 | sb | i need that thingie ;) |
| 18:56.22 | KriLL3 | sb: there aren't enough details on that mouse yet for my liking, and no reviews, that side button looks odd... |
| 18:56.35 | sb | KriLL3: mh - we will see :) |
| 18:56.37 | KriLL3 | Industrial: MX1000 got 10 |
| 18:56.40 | Industrial | Kazie: hm ok. i dont know anything about pallies. |
| 18:56.45 | Industrial | Kazie: reconing used to be the shit |
| 18:56.47 | Industrial | :P |
| 18:57.00 | Kazie | Industrial: Vanilla wow was a long time ago ^^ |
| 18:57.01 | Industrial | 1shots etc, but then it got nerfed I guess? |
| 18:57.04 | Industrial | hehe |
| 18:57.16 | Kazie | Industrial: It's only 1h weapons. |
| 18:57.29 | sb | KriLL3: http://www.gamingstore.de/en/shop/index.php?warenkorb_id=31448&domain_id=1&als_liste=&tab_id=&detail=true&produkt_id=332&kategorie_id0=27 |
| 18:57.33 | Kazie | hmm nope |
| 18:57.40 | Kazie | Industrial: But it's not good for ret. |
| 18:57.47 | KriLL3 | I said details, not marketing speak |
| 18:57.47 | sb | - 16 million illumination choices with 3 intensity and pulsation levels <-- enough for me to buy ;)) |
| 18:57.51 | sb | hehe |
| 18:57.56 | sb | but there are some more pictures |
| 18:58.00 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 18:58.18 | KriLL3 | but I want to know what sensor it uses, it's DPI, if it's comfy, if you can reach all buttons np etc |
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| 18:58.53 | Industrial | Kazie: oh lol :P |
| 18:58.59 | Kazie | Industrial: there's not really many choices if you want to be a true dps paladin today tbh. |
| 18:59.00 | KriLL3 | and that 4 way side button looks cheap |
| 18:59.29 | Industrial | me now http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZZVbhk |
| 18:59.58 | KriLL3 | I don't know wtf blizz were thinking when they gave a class with insane burst and multiple bubbles and other abilities to regain full hp a 6 second stun and debuff that locks you to 100% speed |
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| 19:00.54 | Fisker- | do not want sb |
| 19:00.55 | Kazie | Industrial: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin=052300010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 |
| 19:01.02 | Kazie | Industrial: use that instead.. gives you another 3% crit |
| 19:01.15 | Kazie | When you judge Crusader on a target |
| 19:01.31 | sb | Fisker-: 16M colors!!! |
| 19:01.36 | Kazie | After the patch, it's just when you have a judgement on your target |
| 19:01.37 | Industrial | Kazie: thats wotlk tho :3 |
| 19:02.00 | Kazie | Industrial: I know.. but read the current Imp. seal of crusader |
| 19:02.11 | Kazie | gives you another 3% crit to the target with Judgement of the Crusadr |
| 19:02.40 | Industrial | oh |
| 19:02.43 | Industrial | ups |
| 19:02.57 | Kazie | they just changed the talent to be on overall judgements in WoTLK because Seal of Crusader does not exist by then |
| 19:03.10 | Kazie | It's judged effect has been merged into all your holy spells :) |
| 19:03.21 | Kazie | just like Blessing of Light has been with your Holy light and Flash of Light |
| 19:05.31 | Fisker- | man people are weird |
| 19:05.40 | Fisker- | talking about how Blizzard is milking money out of SC2 |
| 19:06.12 | RaydenU | no one complained when it was announced that the LotR movies was going to be a trilogy |
| 19:06.23 | Fisker- | Apparently they failed to see that the new campaigns are roughly THREE (Funny with 3 races in the game right?) larger than the usual campaigns |
| 19:06.25 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 19:06.55 | RaydenU | i like how people ask if it's the cost of the DVD's what is making them do this |
| 19:07.21 | RaydenU | no, i don't think it's the $0.99 dvd, it's the months of development time that is preventing them from putting the huge campaign in one game |
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| 19:08.01 | RaydenU | and then people all decide this is a justifiable reason to buy the first and pirate the 2nd two |
| 19:08.37 | JerleMinara | so, quick question.. if I have a couple of disembedded libs, and then those same libs are also embedded, which will take precedence when loading? assuming the two libs are slightly different minor versions? |
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| 19:09.46 | Fisker- | i want to play SC2 though |
| 19:09.58 | JerleMinara | specifically the disembedded one is a newer version and the embedded is slightly older |
| 19:10.08 | Pneumatus | JerleMinara: the standalone ones assuming they are optdepped |
| 19:10.31 | RaydenU | Fisker- no one sees this as 3x the starcraft, they are just upset they will be paying more |
| 19:10.33 | Pneumatus | otherwise the ones that are loaded alphabetically first |
| 19:10.43 | JerleMinara | RaydenU: Except it's the same amount of content |
| 19:10.44 | RaydenU | it's really no different from other games that are released episodically |
| 19:10.49 | RaydenU | JerleMinara really? |
| 19:10.49 | Fisker- | I think we'll be paying less |
| 19:10.51 | RaydenU | you know this? |
| 19:10.54 | JerleMinara | yes |
| 19:10.56 | JerleMinara | look at it this way |
| 19:10.58 | RaydenU | you are on the blizzard development team? |
| 19:10.58 | Pneumatus | if one is a newer version though, the newest version should always take presidence |
| 19:11.06 | Fisker- | Cause the expansions won't be as expensive as the full game |
| 19:11.07 | JerleMinara | option A: 11-13 zerg/terran/protoss each per release |
| 19:11.09 | JerleMinara | or |
| 19:11.23 | JerleMinara | option B: 26-30 terran, 26-30 zerg, 26-30 protoss, released into three |
| 19:11.32 | JerleMinara | with the added bonus of campaign metagames instead of just missions |
| 19:11.37 | RaydenU | wait |
| 19:11.41 | RaydenU | where did option A come from? |
| 19:11.48 | JerleMinara | uh, that's the classic RTS model |
| 19:12.01 | RaydenU | people are complaining that starcraft2 is going to be released in 3 parts, instead of 1 |
| 19:12.04 | JerleMinara | right |
| 19:12.08 | RaydenU | they aren't complaining that it's one race per expansion |
| 19:12.09 | JerleMinara | no i'm saying that it's not an option for us |
| 19:12.27 | RaydenU | they want 26 terran, 26 zerg, and 26 protoss all in one game |
| 19:12.31 | JerleMinara | ... except the point is it would have been "released in 3 parts" in the same way, they just owuld've carved up the expansion |
| 19:12.33 | RaydenU | for $50 |
| 19:12.33 | KriLL3 | well part 2 & 3 will be priced like expansions |
| 19:12.38 | JerleMinara | which is completely unrealistic Rayden |
| 19:12.42 | RaydenU | it is |
| 19:12.43 | JerleMinara | and would have taken years |
| 19:12.51 | RaydenU | you can't afford to do that |
| 19:12.56 | RaydenU | no one seems to understand that |
| 19:13.03 | RaydenU | i haven't heard any prices yet |
| 19:13.14 | KriLL3 | RaydenU: only 26? I'd think they wanted 2000+ =P |
| 19:13.15 | RaydenU | the one thing that can be a little weird is how it works with multiplayer |
| 19:13.23 | JerleMinara | not really rayden |
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| 19:13.29 | JerleMinara | it'll be like sc:bw |
| 19:13.41 | RaydenU | JerleMinara if they add 6 units per expansion, then spending $150 would be annoying |
| 19:13.44 | RaydenU | it depends on how much they add |
| 19:13.46 | JerleMinara | initial release has whatever, release 2 has more units, release 3 has more |
| 19:13.59 | JerleMinara | i think it'll end up at about 110 |
| 19:14.07 | JerleMinara | $50 $30 $30 |
| 19:14.13 | RaydenU | i'm excited about the 3 part campaign though |
| 19:14.16 | RaydenU | sounds cool |
| 19:14.21 | RaydenU | i want to see how they make Zerg more RPG like |
| 19:14.25 | RaydenU | and the protoss more diplomatic |
| 19:14.48 | EthanCentaurai | still longs for a World of StarCraft MMO... |
| 19:15.00 | JerleMinara | better keep waiting, the new one is a totally new ip |
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| 19:15.18 | EthanCentaurai | aye :( |
| 19:16.08 | RaydenU | JerleMinara i thought they had 2 new games |
| 19:16.12 | RaydenU | an MMO, and something with new IP |
| 19:16.20 | JerleMinara | the MMO is the new ip |
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| 19:16.25 | RaydenU | this is known? |
| 19:16.32 | RaydenU | that seems kind of iffy |
| 19:16.33 | JerleMinara | yes it was announced at blizzcon |
| 19:16.35 | RaydenU | more risk |
| 19:16.37 | RaydenU | oh really? link |
| 19:16.57 | JerleMinara | it was day 1, early on in one of the panels, i'm too lazy to find it, i was there :P |
| 19:17.48 | Repo | 10raid-cooldowns_display: 03tsigo * r58 RaidCooldowns_Display.toc: RaidCooldowns_Display: Update toc version. |
| 19:17.52 | RaydenU | 12:00 PM - Blizzard's "secret project" confirmed to be a new MMO with a brand new universe, but we won't hear anything about it before a while. |
| 19:17.54 | RaydenU | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=20349.0 |
| 19:17.56 | RaydenU | hmm |
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| 19:20.40 | Repo | 10libavion-2-0: 03CommanderSirow * r44 LibAvion-2.0/LibAvion-2.0.lua: LibAvion-2.0: |
| 19:20.40 | Repo | - Bugfix |
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| 19:25.20 | Matrix110| | hmmm |
| 19:27.02 | JoshBorke | where's a guy supposed to get aguf base on ace3/ |
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| 19:27.59 | Matrix110| | Josh_Borke unpossible atm |
| 19:28.08 | Daemoen | anyone know who the dev/maintainer of fubar poisonfu is? its supposedly Ace2 |
| 19:28.15 | Daemoen | just looked through the project pages and it doesnt seem to be though |
| 19:28.28 | Matrix110| | Josh_Borke you can however get the most recent version from oldsvn.wowace.com |
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| 19:32.38 | Repo | 10libavion-2-0: 03CommanderSirow * r45 LibAvion-2.0/LibAvion-2.0.lua: LibAvion-2.0: |
| 19:32.39 | Repo | - Updated internal documentation (need to update wiki) |
| 19:33.12 | Repo | 10libavionoptions-2-0: 03CommanderSirow * r15 LibAvionOptions-2.0/LibAvionOptions-2.0.lua: LibAvionOptions-2.0: |
| 19:33.13 | Repo | - Updated internal documentation (need to update wiki) |
| 19:33.59 | Matrix110| | oh great the fail Curse Client downloaded libs-.- |
| 19:34.09 | Matrix110| | I wondered why I have 10k files in my AddOn dir |
| 19:34.11 | JoshBorke | Matrix110|: thanks |
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| 19:36.43 | JerleMinara | Matrix110|: http://wuu.vagabonds.info :P |
| 19:37.01 | Fisker- | http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=887081 <-console user |
| 19:37.32 | Matrix110| | JerleMinara I just do a search for the folder libs ctrl a del :P |
| 19:37.35 | Fisker- | "OHGNOS ITS SIMPLIFIED MASTERMIND, I'M DOOMED" |
| 19:37.48 | JerleMinara | Matrix110|: no i mean use wuu instead of CC :P |
| 19:38.08 | Matrix110| | I wont use a Client that isnt allowed to pull updates from a Page |
| 19:38.26 | Repo | 10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 06wrath 07master * 7428e39 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add audible/visible threat warnings. Use LibSink-2.0. Fix LDB/FuBar related bugs. Fix list of events needed to trigger updates. |
| 19:38.49 | JerleMinara | eh? WUU's "not allowed"? It's no different than manually doing it |
| 19:39.41 | Matrix110| | It is different |
| 19:39.57 | [SW]Dodge | doesnt oUF has something for Combopoints? |
| 19:40.11 | Matrix110| | You cant tell me Users would manually check for updates for their 120addons 5times a day like some do with Updaters :P |
| 19:40.19 | Matrix110| | I see it with auctioneer |
| 19:40.25 | Matrix110| | I rarely update it because I do it manually |
| 19:42.15 | Spennig | Depends on the user, I've been crazy enough to do it, when i've had the time. |
| 19:42.27 | Matrix110| | Well I did it in the start aswell |
| 19:42.39 | Matrix110| | everyday I went to Curse/WoWI and checked the updated list |
| 19:42.52 | Matrix110| | But I had 20? addons at that time |
| 19:43.03 | Spennig | since i started using addons i've never had less than like 40 |
| 19:43.06 | Spennig | :-p |
| 19:43.24 | Matrix110| | When I started using AddOns only like 50 existed :D |
| 19:43.33 | Spennig | I've taken to just bookmarking the pages for mods I like / use, and opening them all in a clean browser, then flipping pages |
| 19:43.49 | Spennig | I'm a heathen, I didn't use mods till 2.0 hit before BC |
| 19:44.24 | Spennig | Now... well, when I housecleaned yesterday, I deleted 284 folders from my addon dir |
| 19:44.29 | Matrix110| | Using mods since I started playing |
| 19:44.35 | Spennig | some were libs, but still. |
| 19:44.39 | Spennig | ::nods: |
| 19:44.39 | Matrix110| | which was in Beta |
| 19:45.06 | Spennig | ::grins:: sounds like my husband, except he avoids as many mods as possible... |
| 19:45.21 | [SW]Dodge | ckknight: Chinchilla border opacity fails :C |
| 19:45.25 | Matrix110| | smilies dont work in IRC btw |
| 19:45.40 | ckknight | yea they do |
| 19:45.50 | Matrix110| | well ckknight :) ofc but not :smilie: |
| 19:45.58 | ckknight | right. |
| 19:46.10 | Spennig | :) just habit from oleplaying :-p |
| 19:46.13 | Spennig | *roleplaying |
| 19:46.30 | Matrix110| | Oh I thought you use trillian orso for mirc and press a smilie :D |
| 19:46.55 | Spennig | ::grins:: nah, using pidgin, actually, trillian was being a bugger about letting irc work right |
| 19:46.58 | Bruners | you could add support for them in mirc or <insert client> |
| 19:47.37 | Spennig | I decided since i'm trying to track the betas and the updates on addons for WLK so I can keep my guild updated I should lurk here and see what i can learn |
| 19:47.41 | Matrix110| | I dont want to have smilies besides the ones I can do with my Keyboard inside mirc |
| 19:48.24 | Matrix110| | btw nevcairiel is this Changelog of BT4 supposed to have twenty million pages of junk inside? :P |
| 19:48.32 | Bruners | smilies with pictures fucks up code when you paste it |
| 19:48.41 | charon | Matrix110|: ☹ ? |
| 19:48.43 | Zyndrome | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
| 19:48.58 | Spennig | Hmm. here's a question for anyone. Anyone know a good simple loot-frame mod that allows resizing and moving of the loot frame? don't need other frames moved, just that one |
| 19:49.01 | charon | though that likely won't come out right on mIRC because it's still stuck in the encoding stone age afaik |
| 19:49.20 | Matrix110| | its a bit small charon |
| 19:49.35 | Bruners | Spennig: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7976-Butsu.html |
| 19:50.03 | Spennig | Bruners: Thanks, I actually was looking to test that one later. I'm kinda making a list :-p |
| 19:50.20 | Bruners | Spennig: and there is xloot |
| 19:50.21 | Matrix110| | oh Bruners that looks nice but aslong as Xloot works I wont switch :D |
| 19:50.33 | Zhinjio | yeah, xloot > * |
| 19:50.48 | Bruners | i dont see a need for anymore as blizzard loot fram opens with mouse now |
| 19:50.49 | Spennig | Xloot said it's not being Dev'd, at least on teh wowI site. |
| 19:51.10 | Matrix110| | Spennig its maintained by others as very many people use it :P |
| 19:51.16 | Spennig | and most of what i need is the ability to get it off the top of my action bars :-p and maybe make it smaller |
| 19:51.18 | Matrix110| | Normally somebody fixes it so it works |
| 19:51.33 | Spennig | Ahh, okies. where's the best palce to keep an eye on it for updated versions? |
| 19:51.40 | Matrix110| | wowace |
| 19:51.44 | Spennig | I'll grab it for testing too then, okies |
| 19:51.54 | Matrix110| | I think xloot even works on wotlk |
| 19:52.06 | Matrix110| | atleast I think i used it on the beta realm |
| 19:52.21 | Spennig | I'm trying to have a relatively smooth transition for 3.0, so I'm about to copy-test my mods over on PTR |
| 19:52.48 | Spennig | ::evil grin:: I like looking like an intelligent GL when my guildies are panicing. "What? mine work >_>" |
| 19:53.50 | Spennig | ::curious:: what about the other Xloot mods? Group, Master, monitor? |
| 19:53.57 | Spennig | good? useless? |
| 19:54.00 | Thrae | http://www.ripten.com/2008/10/10/wow-whore-has-36-accounts-raids-by-himself/ <-- too old? |
| 19:54.03 | Matrix110| | They change other stuff but iam not using them |
| 19:54.11 | Spennig | ::nods:: ok |
| 19:54.12 | Matrix110| | Thrae yes you are about person number 200 posting it |
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| 19:54.22 | Bruners | 201 now |
| 19:54.38 | Bruners | atleast fifth only today |
| 19:54.50 | Fisker- | way to old Thrae |
| 19:55.08 | Fisker- | Actually so old that i might begin to kill the next person posting it >:3 |
| 19:55.33 | Thrae | Should have done a /lastlog. |
| 19:55.50 | Spennig | Can I help bury bodies? ^_^ |
| 19:55.50 | Repo | 10avion2: 03CommanderSirow * r2 / (57 files in 12 directories): Avion2: |
| 19:55.50 | Repo | - First import (early alpha, only Combopoints, Aggro, Health included yet) |
| 19:56.12 | Bruners | or check the date on the article, chances that a wow centered irc channel have seen it after 3 days is huge |
| 20:00.53 | Sirow | hmmm, www.wowace.com won't load (old.wowace.com works), WTF ? |
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| 20:01.24 | Facktotum | yep wowace.com seems down |
| 20:02.07 | Sirow | okey |
| 20:02.53 | KriLL3 | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/october/diablo3concert.jpg omgpwnies! |
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| 20:03.19 | Spennig | wowace is slow for me, but working... |
| 20:03.51 | Facktotum | is there a way to sort buffs with Buffalo in descending time order? |
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| 20:07.56 | Nimbal | Facktotum: Nope |
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| 20:08.40 | Sirow | will .pkgmeta files also be found in subdirectories (eg. if i want to put one into each modules folder)? |
| 20:08.51 | Pneumatus | no |
| 20:08.57 | Pneumatus | you only need a single pkgmeta |
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| 20:13.01 | KriLL3 | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/october/blizzcon/391011651.jpg win |
| 20:13.15 | Repo | 10avion2: 03CommanderSirow * r3 / (2 files in 1 directory): Avion2: |
| 20:13.16 | Repo | - Added externals |
| 20:13.24 | Pneumatus | he obviously wasnt riding his caravan mount |
| 20:13.32 | Pneumatus | which you can jump off dalaran on, and not die! |
| 20:13.42 | Pneumatus | (unless its been fixed) |
| 20:14.01 | ckknight | lol, KriLL3 (pwnies) |
| 20:15.41 | Bruners | where is dalaran ? |
| 20:16.03 | sb | northrend :p |
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| 20:16.35 | KriLL3 | naw, it's next to that big lake between hillsbard and silverpine |
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| 20:17.01 | RaydenU | wow |
| 20:17.07 | RaydenU | Tameless Breeches are getting the huge nerf |
| 20:17.24 | RaydenU | almost 300 armor in return for 9 str |
| 20:18.04 | Arrowmaster | let me guess leather armor that used to have bonus armor? |
| 20:18.10 | RaydenU | Embrace of Everlasting Prowess is getting even wors |
| 20:18.11 | RaydenU | yes |
| 20:18.19 | RaydenU | oh |
| 20:18.22 | RaydenU | no i guess it's similar |
| 20:18.35 | RaydenU | i saw some leather pieces are getting more agi and dodge in return for the lost armor |
| 20:18.39 | Zhinjio | Has anyone seen anything that indicates that the rep amounts for turnins (eg, Winterspring beads) will be changing in 3.0? |
| 20:18.41 | RaydenU | but the nice pieces i have are getting more str :( |
| 20:18.53 | Arrowmaster | well blizz said they werent going to add bonus armor to leather items anymore |
| 20:19.21 | RaydenU | yeah |
| 20:19.27 | RaydenU | but they are maintining their iLevel |
| 20:19.35 | RaydenU | which means the armor is getting distributed into other places |
| 20:19.48 | Arrowmaster | want to know a secret |
| 20:19.56 | RaydenU | i know |
| 20:20.04 | RaydenU | it will all be worthless in a few levels |
| 20:20.07 | Arrowmaster | the more stats you distrubute item points over, the less it costs |
| 20:20.10 | Bruners | so no more 10k armor clothies? |
| 20:20.14 | RaydenU | huh? |
| 20:20.18 | sb | clothies? |
| 20:20.21 | sb | its leather! :p |
| 20:20.42 | RaydenU | well the change applies to all armor doesn't it? |
| 20:20.44 | Arrowmaster | trying to pump fewer stats higher rather than spreading it out between an aditional stat doesnt get you as much |
| 20:20.46 | Bruners | so just for leather then ? |
| 20:21.02 | Arrowmaster | its just leather i think |
| 20:21.03 | sb | Random: dont think it applies to pvp armor stuff |
| 20:21.09 | RaydenU | yeah but 300ac vs 9str? that's pretty lame |
| 20:21.13 | sb | pve-leather only |
| 20:21.14 | Arrowmaster | they dont want druids having capped armor again |
| 20:21.37 | Bruners | i guess it will just be harder to get capped |
| 20:21.43 | RaydenU | and they want all leather dps to use the same gear |
| 20:23.04 | Bruners | this means more hunter gear then |
| 20:23.22 | RaydenU | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/10/07/shifting-perspectives-dude-wheres-my-armor/ |
| 20:23.27 | RaydenU | hunter gear? |
| 20:23.36 | Bruners | gear = hunter gear |
| 20:23.37 | Facktotum | Nimbal: not even if i edit the lua? |
| 20:23.47 | RaydenU | why hunter gear? |
| 20:23.50 | RaydenU | hunters wear mail |
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| 20:25.02 | RaydenU | will be all rogue gear |
| 20:27.25 | Stanzilla | what's the color code for runic power? |
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| 20:31.50 | EthanCentaurai | ckknight: will CowTip ever use SharedMedia-3.0? :) |
| 20:31.59 | EthanCentaurai | Stanzilla: same as mana afaik |
| 20:32.11 | Stanzilla | i just did the SM3 thing |
| 20:32.17 | Stanzilla | will commit when I found the color^^ |
| 20:32.29 | ckknight | EthanCentaurai: it could, theoretically, I've been meaning for it to |
| 20:32.53 | EthanCentaurai | cool :) |
| 20:32.55 | nevcairiel | 2.0 -> 3.0 is just API compatible |
| 20:32.59 | nevcairiel | -just |
| 20:33.11 | Arrowmaster | except for the callbacks |
| 20:33.24 | Arrowmaster | some things actually did use the callbacks in 2.0 |
| 20:33.32 | EthanCentaurai | read SM3 as Super Mario 3 for some reason... O.o |
| 20:33.33 | Repo | 10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 06wrath 07master * 3b22dde / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add class filters. |
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| 20:34.35 | ckknight | good game |
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| 20:38.39 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 20:38.43 | Xinhuan | what else is omen missing |
| 20:38.55 | EthanCentaurai | an LDB plugin :) |
| 20:39.14 | Xinhuan | already has one |
| 20:39.30 | Xinhuan | or to be more specific, if it detects LDB, it creates a launcher for it |
| 20:40.15 | Spennig1 | ok, possibly stupid sounding question... what is LDB? |
| 20:40.26 | EthanCentaurai | cool, it's just that Skinner and Omen-2.0 are the only addons I have now which still use FuBarPlugin... |
| 20:40.37 | EthanCentaurai | Spennig1: LibDataBroker-1.1 |
| 20:41.30 | Spennig1 | EthanCentaurai: Thankee :) I'm trying to learn by listening and osmosis >_< |
| 20:41.41 | Repo | 10pit-bull: 03ckknight 04v3.2.1 * r1745 : Tagging as v3.2.1. |
| 20:41.54 | EthanCentaurai | hehe |
| 20:42.28 | Xinhuan | EthanCentaurai: omen2 on live realms currently already has the same LDB launcher |
| 20:42.35 | Xinhuan | since .. about 3 months ago |
| 20:43.43 | eraserhead | just about finished rebuilding my UI this week and want to thank all the authors for your hard work. One thing Im missing and have no idea which mod use to do it, was a flight timer. Suggestions on whcih mod did that? |
| 20:44.17 | Facktotum | if you have quartz there is a flight timer |
| 20:44.35 | Arrowmaster | no there isnt |
| 20:44.43 | eraserhead | yes I do i looked around but could not seem to find it in there |
| 20:44.51 | EthanCentaurai | Xinhuan: good point... quick question, why does it still mixin FuBarPlugin-Mod-3.0 aswell as using LDB? :S |
| 20:44.55 | dodga | The flight timer in Quartz never worked for me, but then again I always uesd InFlight :D |
| 20:45.10 | Arrowmaster | the flight timer in quartz doesnt exist |
| 20:45.17 | Arrowmaster | it only shows data from other addons |
| 20:45.35 | eraserhead | ok InFlight i will check that one out |
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| 20:46.37 | Repo | 10cowtip: 03Stanzilla * r3 / (6 files in 4 directories): LibSharedMedia-3.0 and Runic Power for DKs |
| 20:46.47 | Stanzilla | EthanCentaurai: test that please ^ |
| 20:47.10 | EthanCentaurai | downloads |
| 20:48.08 | Spennig | ::curious:: last I used Cowtip it didn't have a hook to show information from FlagRPS, or IRP, or MYRoleplay or the RP mods as such, is that ever getting added (or was it while i wasn't looking) |
| 20:48.22 | eraserhead | Vanilla wrapper version of UI: http://s519.photobucket.com/albums/u357/ImaShrubber/WoWScrnShot_101008_193006.jpg bottom right is focus target macros and pitbull targets and where omen and violation will display |
| 20:48.49 | eraserhead | thnx again all and heres to next tues and all goes well fer ya |
| 20:49.00 | Xinhuan | EthanCentaurai: no idea |
| 20:49.08 | eraserhead | passes a jug of shine around the room |
| 20:50.10 | EthanCentaurai | chugs down the fall-down-water and passes out, collapsing in a heap in the middle of the room |
| 20:50.32 | Daemona | uggh roleplaying on irc |
| 20:50.50 | eraserhead | pulls another jug out the back of the VW van |
| 20:51.38 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03ananhaid * r4762 Sunwell/KilJaeden.lua: BigWigs: |
| 20:51.39 | Repo | - zhTW update. |
| 20:52.54 | EthanCentaurai | Stanzilla: it works fine on live :) cheers! |
| 20:53.02 | Stanzilla | cool |
| 20:53.22 | EthanCentaurai | I'd test on beta, but I'm lacking in the hard drive space department... :( |
| 21:04.10 | [SW]Dodge | sylvanaar: ping, how usable is prat-3,0 atm? |
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| 21:07.41 | Spennig | [SW]Dodge: I' not Sylv, but it's useable. there's a few quirks that won't be clear on live realm, but are set up for the 3.0+ stuff. |
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| 21:08.24 | [SW]Dodge | what quirks on live? |
| 21:09.01 | Spennig | Some new features, I think, since i don't have the beta, I couldn't test them. Also, if you use WIM, we're waiting for WIM 3.0 to communicate between them |
| 21:09.48 | Spennig | the WIM issue is the only reason I haven't switched yet |
| 21:09.52 | Repo | 10avion2: 03CommanderSirow * r4 / (5 files in 4 directories): Avion2: |
| 21:09.53 | Repo | - Updated externals (path problem) |
| 21:09.54 | Repo | - Removed some debug stuff (need to upload Avion2_DefaultMedia) |
| 21:10.08 | [SW]Dodge | well, i'll wait with prat ;) |
| 21:10.25 | Spennig | ^_^ i'll be honest and say I like the new interface a lot better. |
| 21:10.28 | waallen | it works really well |
| 21:10.48 | Spennig | i think Sylv is also going to be putting a fubar / minimap option into it that's not there in the one I tried |
| 21:11.05 | waallen | the only thing that I can't seem to get to work at the moment is the editingbox module which is 'broken' only in the latest revision |
| 21:11.20 | waallen | so if you download one that's been released before that, you'll be ok |
| 21:11.20 | Spennig | hmm. which revision? |
| 21:11.32 | waallen | r23 |
| 21:11.36 | Spennig | >_< |
| 21:12.01 | Spennig | I wonder if it'll work if I pull the module form the other revision and look at the other updates that way |
| 21:12.11 | sb | mh, wim3 already working? |
| 21:12.28 | Spennig | Sylv says yes, but there's no files I can find to download and try >_< |
| 21:14.55 | Daemoen | anyone happen to know which part of ulda digmaster loads in? |
| 21:15.09 | Fisker- | http://api.browsershots.org/png/original/40/40762f7cba6f7828ea1e587d541a850c.png <-fail |
| 21:15.16 | waallen | [2008/10/12 23:10:21-360-x1]: ...\CowTip\libs\LibDogTag-Unit-3.0\Categories\Auras.lua:360: bad argument #2 to 'format' (string expected, got nil):...\CowTip\libs\LibDogTag-Unit-3.0\Categories\Auras.lua:360: in function `v':CowTip\libs\LibDogTag-Unit-3.0\Cleanup.lua:40: in main chunk - What addon should this lua error be ticketed to? Cowtip or LibDogTag? |
| 21:15.24 | Daemoen | ahh, hes on the outside.. |
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| 21:22.33 | Arrowmaster | Fisker-: rofl i never thought of using browsershots.org to look at keyloggers |
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| 21:37.14 | Ziraly | http://tinyurl.com/3zwbdo |
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| 21:40.40 | Repo | 10cowtip: 03Nevcairiel * r4 HealthBar/HealthBar.lua: Fix Stans mess |
| 21:42.48 | Repo | 10cowtip: 03Nevcairiel * r5 PowerBar/PowerBar.lua: Fix this thing too |
| 21:43.26 | Repo | 10cowtip: 03Nevcairiel * r6 PowerBar/PowerBar.lua: Copy/Pasta is bad, hmkay |
| 21:48.26 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r17 / (3 files in 3 directories): ZOMGBuffs: |
| 21:48.26 | Repo | - Fixed error when putting ZOMGBuffs on standby when not a raid buffing class. |
| 21:48.26 | Repo | - Portal module; Hearthstone and other items faded a little to make them more clear. Could use someone with some arty skills to do a higher res (256x256) pic of Hearthstone and a random Scroll looking thing. :) |
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| 21:50.40 | Trela | Zeksie: Will see what I can do about the art. |
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| 21:51.11 | Fisker- | lets all harass Kody- |
| 21:52.50 | Groktar | harrasses Fisker- |
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| 21:54.01 | Repo | 10cowtip: 03Nevcairiel * r7 CowTip.toc: Fix typo in the .toc |
| 21:54.33 | Trela | Mooooo. |
| 21:55.17 | Groktar | moos at Trela |
| 21:55.41 | Trela | I wonder if I could integrate FRSP2 with CowTip. |
| 21:56.44 | Spennig | If you can get it to noticve FRSP would be lovely, 'cause then it'd notice IRP, as well |
| 21:58.08 | Trela | Oh, I was going to just make sure FRSP2 would play nicely with CowTip. :D |
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| 21:59.23 | Spennig | ::chuckles:: ok, that works too ^_^ |
| 21:59.46 | Spennig | i wish cowtip would show the extra stuff from FRSP2 and such in it's tooltip :-p |
| 22:04.16 | Trela | I could modify CowTip to do that, but I am not sure CK would want me messing with it like that. |
| 22:06.22 | Groktar | nibbles on Trela's soul |
| 22:06.24 | Spennig | ::nods:: no worries, I'll eventually get around to ticketing ck a request for it |
| 22:07.38 | Spennig | Ok, am I just special, or does the PTR seriously suck for trying to run mods? Even the ones that are suppsoed to be 3.0.2 compatible? |
| 22:08.11 | nevcairiel | sounds like you are special |
| 22:08.25 | Spennig | figures |
| 22:08.37 | Spennig | ::hits head on desk:: |
| 22:10.28 | Groktar | gently pats Spennig |
| 22:10.36 | Groktar | ~kiss Spennig |
| 22:10.37 | purl | ACTION forces Spennig to give theduke a big kiss on the hand |
| 22:11.10 | Spennig | ::grins and licks Groktar and purl:: |
| 22:11.20 | Groktar | licks Spennig on the tongue |
| 22:11.41 | Spennig | kinky :) |
| 22:11.59 | Groktar | noms Spennig's tongue |
| 22:12.22 | Spennig | ::giggles and returns the favor:: |
| 22:12.27 | ckknight | Trela: you could theoretically make a third-party module |
| 22:12.32 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 22:12.36 | Trela | True. |
| 22:12.52 | Trela | I am actually cleaning up some horrendous code in FlagRSP2 first. |
| 22:13.23 | ckknight | where are you developing that? |
| 22:13.31 | ckknight | or is that on wowace now? |
| 22:13.49 | Trela | http://www.wowace.com/projects/flag-rsp2/ |
| 22:13.59 | Trela | Have been for a while, actually. :3 I moved over to Rock for it. |
| 22:14.12 | ckknight | ah. |
| 22:14.51 | Trela | I used Rock since I use all these other AddOns that have Rock in them like FuBar and Cartographer. >.>V |
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| 22:19.15 | ckknight | yea, those are mine |
| 22:20.52 | Trela | I love your coding. :3 *Shrugs~* |
| 22:21.40 | Spennig | Grr. ok, is there anything like bugsack that works for PTR that doesn't fill itself with it's own bugs? >_< |
| 22:22.39 | Trela | Swatter |
| 22:22.44 | Spennig | k |
| 22:23.58 | Pneumatus | bugsack works on beta, so id assume it works on PTR too |
| 22:24.26 | Facktotum | it does |
| 22:25.22 | Spennig | it works, but was / is giving me errors from itself, and some libs, I am not good at sifting what I can ignore and what i can't, so I'll just drop it for now, and try something else |
| 22:26.08 | liquidzoo | Trela: You're working on a FlagRSP rewrite? Nice. |
| 22:26.35 | Trela | liquidzoo: FlagRSP2 has been around since 2005. |
| 22:26.50 | liquidzoo | I am aware. I've been using it since then |
| 22:27.08 | Trela | I am the original author. :P |
| 22:27.13 | Facktotum | Spennig: post the errors there http://ace.pastey.net/ |
| 22:27.19 | liquidzoo | ah :P |
| 22:27.21 | Facktotum | and give the url |
| 22:28.36 | sylvanaar | waallen i dont think editbox was broken was it |
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| 22:28.50 | sylvanaar | Wobin its just off |
| 22:29.01 | sylvanaar | waallen its just off |
| 22:29.03 | liquidzoo | I've been using FlagRSP WotLK recently. It works for me, though it's had its quirks. |
| 22:29.06 | waallen | no clue, I get a lua error with it |
| 22:29.08 | waallen | it's enabled |
| 22:29.14 | waallen | if that's what you mean |
| 22:29.17 | sylvanaar | waallen what error |
| 22:29.28 | waallen | I made a ticket on Prat-3.0 |
| 22:29.44 | waallen | http://www.wowace.com/projects/prat-3-0/tickets/2-two-lua-error/ |
| 22:29.48 | vithos | wow... why does the arena system queue me against a team that actually gives ZERO POINTS when i win |
| 22:31.01 | Pneumatus | looks like you're missing LSM widgets |
| 22:31.31 | Pneumatus | AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets not embeded perhaps? |
| 22:31.55 | sylvanaar | its is |
| 22:32.25 | sylvanaar | it was broken by nevcairiel's script im willing to wager |
| 22:32.46 | Groktar | curls up in sylvanaar's lap and drifts off to sleep |
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| 22:33.53 | sylvanaar | waallen are you certain you are using the zip which does not say -nolibs |
| 22:34.07 | waallen | yeah, I am |
| 22:34.36 | Pneumatus | i bet its because Prat3.0_Libraries is marked LOD |
| 22:34.53 | sylvanaar | i doubt it |
| 22:34.55 | ckknight | are there any bittorrent clients for Mac better than Azureus? |
| 22:35.12 | sylvanaar | but it could be i guess |
| 22:35.25 | Pneumatus | sylvanaar: you know about the issues with LoD optdeps not loading anymore, unless they are LoadAddon()'d? |
| 22:35.49 | sylvanaar | yeah, my local copy isnt LoD, maybe i forgot to take it out |
| 22:35.54 | Repo | 10expeller: 03dekimsey * r8 / (3 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 22:35.55 | Repo | Expeller: |
| 22:35.55 | Repo | - Added credits for Prospector by kergoth |
| 22:35.56 | Repo | - Rewrote macro generation to work properly on characters without the correct professions. |
| 22:36.00 | Repo | - Eliminated prior issue with macro by using SecureActionButton as suggested by Adirelle. |
| 22:36.30 | Repo | 10button-bin: 03dhedbor * r33 ButtonBin.lua: Fixed block visibility issue. |
| 22:36.58 | waallen | I don't know if that matters but I've got an Ac3 in the AddOns folder |
| 22:37.08 | waallen | may it be the case that it's the one being used instead of the one embedded in Prat' |
| 22:37.51 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r24 libraries/Prat-3.0_Libraries.toc: Remove LoD tag left there from yesterday |
| 22:37.59 | Pneumatus | i'd hazard a guess that if you disabled every addon apart from the Prat* ones, you'd get a bunch of other lib errors (assuming its the LoD problem) |
| 22:38.16 | Pneumatus | or update to r24 to see if its fixed :> |
| 22:38.35 | waallen | yeah, going to do that after this arena |
| 22:38.40 | Facktotum | ckknight: http://www.transmissionbt.com/ |
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| 22:39.37 | sylvanaar | im cranky today, but i really want to know why ace3 cant be fixed so it doesnt break when loadaddon'ed. everything else works fine |
| 22:39.48 | Pneumatus | they still havnt finished developing utorrent on mac :< |
| 22:40.33 | Trela | has a REVELATION! |
| 22:40.45 | Trela | knows how to fix FRSP2 suck now! |
| 22:40.46 | ckknight | what's that, Trela? |
| 22:40.48 | ckknight | lol |
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| 22:41.35 | ShaneSveller | silly Lua questions: how can I get the size of a list, and how can I append to a list? |
| 22:41.36 | Trela | If you have ever used it and turned off its enhanced tooltip to use the default game tooltip it places a second messy one next to it. I am going to clean up the code and make it more configurable, but I know how now! |
| 22:43.05 | Spennig | Facktotum: I'll leave you the URL in a min, and a list of what I have loaded each test. |
| 22:43.28 | waallen | sylvanaar: r24 fixed that |
| 22:43.37 | sylvanaar | thats good |
| 22:43.44 | ckknight | ShaneSveller: local len = #t; t[#t+1] = 'bewbs' |
| 22:43.53 | waallen | and cowtip lua error got fixed too, nice |
| 22:44.21 | liquidzoo | Trela: If someone could work out one of the RP mods so it is compatible with the tooltip mods they would be worshipped :P |
| 22:44.24 | sylvanaar | they need to fix ace3 so its not so delicate |
| 22:44.30 | ShaneSveller | ckknight: ty |
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| 22:44.45 | sylvanaar | goes back to his cave |
| 22:45.04 | break19 | so, erm, what else was done to pitbull besides switching it to use .pkgmeta? lol |
| 22:46.28 | break19 | cc updated pitbull. and now i've got errors out the wazoo, after I removed the errant modules from the main dir, still have errors |
| 22:47.41 | break19 | http://ace.pastey.net/98111 |
| 22:47.46 | break19 | there's just one |
| 22:48.02 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r85 Coconuts.lua: Coconuts: |
| 22:48.02 | Repo | - Fixed a rather annoying typo I wonder why I never had errors with... |
| 22:50.11 | Facktotum | break19: are you running embedded or disembedded libs? |
| 22:50.26 | break19 | embedded. CC doesnt yet do disembedded |
| 22:51.34 | Facktotum | http://www.wowace.com/projects/pit-bull/files/620-v3-2-1/ |
| 22:51.37 | Facktotum | try that version |
| 22:51.58 | break19 | same version.. |
| 22:53.03 | break19 | its the same version i have already... |
| 22:53.14 | Facktotum | you using any special dogtags? |
| 22:53.20 | break19 | nope |
| 22:53.31 | [SW]Dodge | break19: live or beta? |
| 22:53.37 | break19 | live |
| 22:53.49 | [SW]Dodge | libmobhealth installed? |
| 22:53.58 | [SW]Dodge | or mobhealth |
| 22:54.11 | break19 | whatevers included with the pitbull release. lmh4 i think |
| 22:54.34 | sylvanaar | exited game etc. |
| 22:54.37 | break19 | first eror im getting is [2008/10/12 17:23:30-525-x1]: LibMobHealth-4.0\LibMobHealth-4.0.lua:48: attempt to index local 'frame' (a nil value) |
| 22:54.49 | break19 | syl: yes *bonk* :p |
| 22:54.59 | sylvanaar | hey you always have to ask |
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| 22:55.15 | ckknight | LMH is getting deprecated in like, two days |
| 22:55.17 | break19 | syl: I know. |
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| 22:55.31 | sylvanaar | there you go, its just broken on live |
| 22:55.46 | ckknight | I think we all know who's at fault for this one |
| 22:55.48 | ckknight | ...gnomes |
| 22:55.53 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 22:55.58 | break19 | ckknight: maybe so, but its still on live, which is where I play, and it's tagged as a release.. which means it's supposed to work on the current wow version :p |
| 22:56.14 | sylvanaar | it would have..see |
| 22:56.16 | break19 | poor gnomes, always gettin blamed. :p |
| 22:56.19 | ckknight | break19: you should see if you can fix it |
| 22:56.49 | sylvanaar | someone nuke gnomer |
| 22:56.52 | break19 | ckknight: meh, debugging my own stuff is worth it.. debugging someone elses? not so much. heh |
| 22:56.56 | sylvanaar | ..oh wait |
| 22:57.29 | sylvanaar | break19 i think you hit the nail on the head |
| 22:58.18 | break19 | sylv: perhaps if I'd written it, I'd be able to even attempt to debug it... However, it's just slightly too advanced for me |
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| 23:00.37 | Arrowmaster | break19: do you have any idea how much of ckknight's stuff i've had to debug over the years? suck it up and get to work |
| 23:00.46 | Repo | 10classloot: 03Pneumatus * r48 ClassLoot.lua: ClassLoot: |
| 23:00.46 | Repo | - switch getglobal() calls for _G[] references |
| 23:00.53 | break19 | arrow: lol |
| 23:01.01 | break19 | crys |
| 23:01.01 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: <3 |
| 23:01.15 | break19 | it was working earlier today. *sniffle* |
| 23:01.25 | ckknight | lim(x -> 3-) <=x |
| 23:01.25 | falconindy | So Pitbull's current package isn't working... all the plugins for it are at the same level as the base addon directory... likely that either the .pkgmeta is written wrong or the TOC is |
| 23:01.26 | break19 | kicks CC for not having a rollback feature |
| 23:02.03 | break19 | falcon: uhm, my pitbull was unpacked properly |
| 23:02.14 | break19 | at least that works right now.. lol |
| 23:02.18 | ckknight | be sure to remove your old PitBull directory |
| 23:02.20 | falconindy | I'm not downloading through the curse client. im just grabbing it off the wowace site |
| 23:02.21 | ckknight | then reinstall |
| 23:02.32 | falconindy | the .zip isn't just 1 directory |
| 23:02.47 | break19 | odd thing is, it appears to be working, save for all those errors |
| 23:02.51 | Pneumatus | the pitbul zip is full of modules which are separate addons |
| 23:03.47 | Arrowmaster | Pneumatus: i think its suppost to be that way |
| 23:03.53 | Pneumatus | looks like the lod scripts arent needed anymore btw ckk |
| 23:04.02 | break19 | falcon: the toc is, likely, but it'll work fine if you simply extract the zip into your addons folder |
| 23:04.08 | Pneumatus | yeh, the lod split scipts still in PitBull/ confused me :> |
| 23:04.13 | falconindy | Well, I'm trying to help my roommate troubleshoot really... I downloaded Pitbull yesterday and got a single folder in the .zip |
| 23:04.21 | break19 | that was yesterday |
| 23:04.27 | break19 | there was an update today. |
| 23:04.30 | break19 | and it broke me |
| 23:04.32 | break19 | heh |
| 23:04.36 | Stanzilla | ckknight wanted to remove the bat file :P |
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| 23:04.49 | break19 | if I had to guess, I'd say it's due to lmh4 problems |
| 23:04.51 | falconindy | Was that what the 'hasty changes ill later regret' commit wa about? |
| 23:05.03 | Arrowmaster | right now its impossible to remove the bat files |
| 23:05.14 | Arrowmaster | the precommit hook has no exceptions for executables |
| 23:05.31 | Arrowmaster | so nobody is allowed to edit or delete them |
| 23:05.54 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: yea, need to fix that... |
| 23:07.02 | falconindy | l |
| 23:07.09 | Pneumatus | also, wtb some pitbull images on the dev page :> |
| 23:07.13 | falconindy | I'm also noticing packaging issues with parrot and talented |
| 23:07.23 | falconindy | there's required libs that aren't included in the zip |
| 23:07.42 | falconindy | frameXML.log errors out everything, but it'll load anyways because the libraries exist elsewhere |
| 23:07.48 | Arrowmaster | thats not a packaging issue with parrot |
| 23:08.02 | Pneumatus | heh, pitbull is tagged with ace2 on curse |
| 23:08.04 | falconindy | well then it's a embeds.xml issue |
| 23:08.10 | Arrowmaster | its a 'the maintainer never created a .pkgmeta when he switched to git' issue |
| 23:08.56 | falconindy | either way, there's references to things that don't exist... figured i'd mention it |
| 23:09.12 | Arrowmaster | and being tagged ace2 is a 'ckknight never updates is addon descriptions on curse, ever' issue |
| 23:09.50 | ckknight | I'm gonna go back to blaming gnomes. |
| 23:10.29 | break19 | but but.. gnomes are so cute and cuddly! |
| 23:10.36 | break19 | and they taste great when stirfried! |
| 23:11.18 | break19 | .. odd.. 13 bugs in bugsack.. 13 slots left in my bags.. ohnoez |
| 23:14.32 | Repo | 10caesar: 03ssveller 07master * a0329d3 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Frame coloring added |
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| 23:15.19 | Repo | 10pit-bull: 03ckknight * r1746 / (2 files in 1 directory): remove bat and sh files |
| 23:15.26 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: you can now remove bad filetypes |
| 23:15.29 | ckknight | anyone can |
| 23:15.33 | ckknight | just can't update or add |
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| 23:16.43 | break19 | hmm. it appears the entire set of bugs is due to lmh4 stuffies |
| 23:17.06 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: did you make a ticket about that? |
| 23:17.13 | Arrowmaster | i dont think so |
| 23:17.17 | ckknight | okay |
| 23:17.18 | Arrowmaster | somebody else might have |
| 23:17.31 | break19 | and in lmh4, it appears that oldlib is being set, but there's no oldlib.frame to set frame to, and frame is being set to nil |
| 23:18.14 | Gnarfoz | who cares about lmh anymore. just delete it in two days' time. ;) |
| 23:18.51 | break19 | I'm trying to learn here, do ya mind? lol |
| 23:19.06 | Arrowmaster | grr im almost about to learn C just so i can write a program to do what im trying to script |
| 23:19.48 | break19 | C aint all that hard to learn, just to master. |
| 23:20.27 | break19 | it's been damn near 10 years since I've done anything in C tho.. so I'm prolly not the best person to ask about it. heh |
| 23:21.10 | Arrowmaster | trying to make a batch file (since i couldnt get any other kinda script files to work) that i can drag a file onto (thats the part i couldnt get other script languages to do) and rename the file after applying a regexp to the filename |
| 23:21.56 | break19 | arrow: bash? or tcsh? |
| 23:22.04 | Arrowmaster | windows batch |
| 23:22.07 | break19 | ew |
| 23:22.24 | Arrowmaster | actually right now im cheating and calling a msys sh from the .bat |
| 23:22.32 | break19 | heh |
| 23:23.52 | break19 | man. I hate debugging libs :( |
| 23:24.05 | break19 | s'why I dun write em |
| 23:25.39 | break19 | meh, piss on it. I'll throw in my lmh4 from my pre-CC backup |
| 23:27.36 | vithos | libmobhealth? |
| 23:28.07 | vithos | it's going to be useless in 2 days anyway |
| 23:28.07 | break19 | ya. |
| 23:28.34 | Trela | How come?~ |
| 23:28.47 | vithos | well, assuming 3.0 is on tuesday |
| 23:29.05 | vithos | you can see health values on all units |
| 23:29.39 | break19 | vithos: as I've explained, "RELEASE" tag should be what works on the -CURRENT- version, not what works in 2 days :p |
| 23:29.51 | Trela | Nice. |
| 23:30.15 | Trela | break19: I tagged mine at release because it works on 2.4 and 3.0. |
| 23:30.41 | break19 | thats fine |
| 23:31.13 | Trela | I have yet to have any major patch break my Addons. |
| 23:32.17 | break19 | my main one wasnt broken, per se, but I should still rewrite it to take advantage of spellids now. just havent bothered to, since it still works. (on enus locales only) |
| 23:33.20 | break19 | yay, installed my backup of lmh4 and errors went away |
| 23:33.39 | Trela | I have people yell at me in foreign languages for not making FRSP2 in their language, but they offer no translations. :D~ |
| 23:37.18 | Repo | 10expeller: 03dekimsey 04v1.2 * r9 : Tagging as v1.2. |
| 23:38.07 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: whats the faction that requires you to run the diremaul east thing a gajillion times? |
| 23:38.27 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: oh, and did you also do the Shen'dralar rep? |
| 23:38.40 | Kilroo | I wish Curse were more like WoWi. |
| 23:39.04 | Xinhuan | 4xgoblins |
| 23:39.09 | Xinhuan | + shandrala |
| 23:39.16 | Xinhuan | but shandrala doesn't require you to run diremaul |
| 23:39.23 | Xinhuan | instead you need to run scholo for skin of shadows |
| 23:39.24 | Zhinjio | no, its libram turnins, isn't it? |
| 23:39.28 | Zhinjio | oh |
| 23:39.35 | Zhinjio | 4xgoblins? |
| 23:39.36 | Xinhuan | yeah you don't have to kill anything to reach thelibrary in DM to turn in |
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| 23:39.50 | Xinhuan | yeah, known as steamwheedel cartel |
| 23:39.54 | Zhinjio | aha |
| 23:40.26 | Zhinjio | sorry, I'm slow today. brain not entirely wired in correctly |
| 23:45.14 | Repo | 10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana * r52 / (3 files in 1 directory): Removed ugly extra tooltip. |
| 23:45.15 | Repo | Made default tooltip use extra information, but can be selectively toggled. |
| 23:45.15 | Repo | Cleaned code extensively. |
| 23:53.39 | *** join/#wowace Undine (i=shamus@92-238-208-134.cable.ubr09.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 23:55.29 | *** join/#wowace Corgan (n=Corgan@63.249.57.52) |
