00:03.53 | Primer | So where's the svn repository now? |
00:04.24 | fewyn | each one has it's own |
00:04.28 | fewyn | check the pages for svn info |
00:04.45 | Primer | "the pages" |
00:04.53 | Primer | So each project has its own repo? |
00:05.04 | Primer | no more huge revision numbers?!? |
00:05.08 | fewyn | basically from what i understand |
00:05.29 | fewyn | http://www.wowace.com/projects/omen-threat-meter/repositories/mainline/ |
00:07.19 | Primer | the link for my project on curseforge.com sends me to wowace.com |
00:07.44 | fewyn | it was imported to wowace |
00:07.48 | fewyn | which makes sense |
00:07.52 | Primer | you mean "from" wowace? |
00:08.02 | Primer | I just need the SVN URL...I can't find it |
00:08.08 | fewyn | what project? |
00:08.10 | Primer | it's not what it was |
00:08.14 | Primer | FlightHUD |
00:08.28 | fewyn | ok on your project page |
00:08.31 | fewyn | click repos |
00:08.33 | fewyn | at the top |
00:08.34 | Stanzilla | Primer: http://www.wowace.com/projects/flight-hud/repositories/mainline/ |
00:08.40 | fewyn | and you have a svn url |
00:08.49 | Primer | http://www.wowace.com/projects/flight-hud/ |
00:09.17 | Primer | there is no 'repo' link or text anywhere on that page |
00:09.20 | *** join/#wowace Aikawa (n=shingo@p5B0572B8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
00:09.30 | Primer | Stanzilla: I want to use my ssh key |
00:09.33 | fewyn | * Files |
00:09.33 | Primer | which is already on the site |
00:09.38 | fewyn | up at the top |
00:09.40 | fewyn | see |
00:09.42 | fewyn | files |
00:09.43 | fewyn | images |
00:09.45 | fewyn | etc |
00:09.51 | fewyn | 5th one over |
00:09.53 | Primer | bah, nm, I didn't see it |
00:09.56 | Primer | yeah, I suck |
00:10.20 | Stanzilla | Development url svn+ssh://svn@svn.wowace.com/wow/flight-hud/mainline/trunk |
00:10.20 | Primer | thanks |
00:10.26 | Primer | yup, got it, thanks |
00:10.30 | Stanzilla | :) |
00:10.52 | fewyn | Give a man a fish and it feeds him for a day, show a man to fish and it feeds him for a life time. |
00:12.08 | falconindy | Build a man a fire and he stays warm for a night. Set a man on fire and he stays warm for the rest of his life. |
00:12.45 | Primer | heh, I just couldn't see where the link was |
00:12.52 | Primer | I know svn very well :) |
00:14.12 | Primer | sigh...my branch is gone :( |
00:15.03 | Primer | good thing I still have the file locally |
00:15.12 | Stanzilla | oldsvn.wowace.com |
00:15.16 | fewyn | ^ |
00:15.50 | Primer | So where's the documentation about cutting releases and such? |
00:16.17 | Primer | And will there be disclaimers about "Don't use trunk code, as it's probably broken"? |
00:16.20 | fewyn | http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/ |
00:16.25 | Stanzilla | uh it's simply. if you want to release something just tag it |
00:16.39 | Stanzilla | s/ply/ple/ |
00:17.01 | Primer | Stanzilla: Heh, I didn't expect it to be "normal" :) |
00:17.12 | Stanzilla | it is now :P |
00:18.35 | Primer | ok, so I'm going to cut a release: svn cp url://trunk url://tags/0.5.2 (obviously paraphrased) Should that suffice? I mean, I know people will probably stick with the SVN revision number, but I had already started using dotted notation |
00:18.58 | Primer | Is there an expected standard for that too? |
00:19.16 | Primer | I'm still reading the KB, btw |
00:19.34 | Primer | ok, I see it now |
00:20.01 | Primer | I wonder if people will stick with a standard nomenclature |
00:20.10 | binder | is there a #warace channel yet? |
00:21.48 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu 04v0.5.2 * r87 : Tagging as v0.5.2" |
00:23.00 | thul | gotta love people with no resilence |
00:23.08 | thul | i saw trough them |
00:23.30 | Primer | this is so much nicer |
00:23.36 | Primer | not having to see all the other projects |
00:24.30 | Stanzilla | binder: #waruidev |
00:24.32 | Primer | err why are all the Libs coming down too? I thought that the move to .pkgmeta was supposed to eliminate that. Or must I manually remove those svn properties? |
00:24.47 | Stanzilla | manually remove |
00:24.52 | binder | thanks |
00:24.59 | Primer | ok |
00:25.41 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r88 : FlightHUD: Nuke svn:externals property |
00:26.07 | Primer | This is nice |
00:27.08 | waallen | Has anyone found a working version of autobar for wotlk beta? |
00:28.22 | fewyn | not much longer until 3.0.2 |
00:28.45 | fewyn | still can't decide on what spec i want to level as |
00:32.54 | nevcairiel | does anyone know a sane way to fix the z-index bug with dynamicly positioned divs in IE7? <.< |
00:33.33 | Primer | ...use firefox? /me runs |
00:34.27 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r89 / (8 files in 1 directory): |
00:34.27 | Repo | FlightHUD: Merge from old wowace branch. Experimental support for waypoints. |
00:34.39 | pentium166 | my preferred method is browser sniffing and "You appear to be using IE7. Please fix this." |
00:34.42 | Primer | Your .pkgmeta file is invalid: could not found expected ':' |
00:35.11 | Primer | perhaps someone who is a native speaker of English should fix that |
00:35.57 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: something like that? http://richa.avasthi.name/blogs/tepumpkin/2008/01/11/ie7-lessons-learned/ |
00:36.16 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: I've been on that page, not sure if it works for us =P |
00:36.21 | Stanzilla | k :P |
00:38.22 | pentium166 | so THAT'S what caused it |
00:38.54 | *** join/#wowace Jazr (n=for-chan@220-253-106-136.TAS.netspace.net.au) |
00:44.04 | Zeksie | wowace site dead? oh wait, no. just massively lagged |
00:46.49 | Primer | very lagged |
00:48.26 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r88 / (3 files in 2 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
00:48.26 | Repo | - Fix version numbers :p |
00:48.27 | Repo | - Fix for class mounts in 3.0.2 |
00:49.21 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r82 Coconuts.lua: Coconuts: |
00:49.21 | Repo | - Class mounts are now listed with the others in 3.0.2 |
00:53.49 | KriLL3 | why oh why doesn't the bank automagically stack items? :( say your bank if full and you got 6 of x in your bags and 14 of x in your bank clicking the stack in your bags shouldn't give "your bank is full" it should move what it can to the bank and then say "your bank is full" :z |
00:55.37 | Zeksie | anyone doing an in-game version of mmo's RaidComp thing? |
00:55.50 | fewyn | not that i've heard of |
00:55.53 | fewyn | but that would be cool |
00:55.59 | fewyn | if it detected what was already in the raid |
00:56.00 | fewyn | and such |
00:56.07 | Zeksie | yeh. speciially if. yes. what i thought |
00:56.20 | fewyn | =p |
01:03.34 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight) |
01:03.34 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
01:03.45 | Repo | 10fu-bar_raid-save-fu: 03jokeyrhyme * r23 / (4 files in 1 directory): FuBar_RaidSaveFu: |
01:03.45 | Repo | - 4 columns now (but ugly sometimes) |
01:03.46 | Repo | - options for time-until-reset formats (using LibAbacus-3.0) |
01:04.38 | *** join/#wowace Tinyboom (n=nahh@ti131310a340-0747.bb.online.no) |
01:19.23 | thul | 54 minute WSG .. PUH! and we won. |
01:29.18 | grennon | so, whats the deal with .pkgmeta? |
01:37.39 | *** join/#wowace Gaurong (n=chatzill@88-104-63-13.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
01:39.34 | Arrowmaster | it sets metadata for packaging your addon |
01:40.19 | selckin | KriLL3: but then you couldn't have the fun of making an addon for it |
01:40.51 | KriLL3 | selckin: just wish blizz used some common sense.... |
01:41.52 | *** join/#wowace Next96 (i=Next96@121.129.140.156) |
01:42.44 | selckin | their UI was never a point of detail or attention |
01:50.51 | kadrahil | anyone on the murmur premades? |
01:51.39 | *** join/#wowace EvilJohn (n=eviljohn@ppp-70-247-142-57.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) |
01:52.31 | *** join/#wowace Civrock (n=Civrock@24-182-71-043.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) |
02:00.48 | *** join/#wowace Matrix110 (i=Matrix11@pD957C7E1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
02:02.20 | *** join/#wowace quoin (n=quoin@219-90-180-77.ip.adam.com.au) |
02:06.30 | Bruners_ | any addon that lets me change the color on hotkey/macro texts? |
02:08.23 | *** join/#wowace Gagorian (i=rw3@a91-153-60-25.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
02:13.12 | Aeyan | Bleh, I hate the Blizzard downloader so much. |
02:15.47 | *** join/#wowace FrostByghte (n=frostbyg@70-250-240-34.ded.swbell.net) |
02:17.44 | grennon | schedulerepeatingevent is gone from aceevent in ace3? |
02:18.30 | Xinhuan | schedulerepeatingtimer in acetimer-3.0 |
02:21.23 | fewyn | hmmm i'm glad my ui works on the beta realms |
02:24.03 | sylvaan | are you guys using the bigwigs naxx module? |
02:25.11 | sylvanaar | anyhow, the thaddius enrage time is 6min |
02:27.52 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander 042.0.89-release * r89 : Tagging as 2.0.89-release. |
02:28.12 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander 042.5.83-release * r83 : Tagging as 2.5.83-release. |
02:28.26 | Repo | 10stable: 03LordFarlander 042.1.59-release * r60 : Tagging as 2.1.59-release. |
02:28.42 | Repo | 10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander 044.5.117-release * r117 : Tagging as 4.5.117-release. |
02:29.36 | sylvanaar | should i just update it? |
02:30.19 | grennon | is there a secret repo of the old API documentation? |
02:30.47 | Xinhuan | yes, example: http://old.wowace.com/wiki/AceConfig3 |
02:32.09 | sylvanaar | i wonder if thaddius will be 6 min on live for 3.0 before wotlk |
02:34.04 | Repo | 10big-wigs_naxxramas: 03sylvanaar * r3 Thaddius.lua: |
02:34.05 | Repo | Update Thaddius enrage timer for wotlk. Verified its accurate to the second at 6min. |
02:35.02 | fewyn | yawn |
02:35.10 | grennon | Xinhuan: thanks, huge help |
02:36.20 | Repo | 10big-wigs_naxxramas: 03sylvanaar * r4 BigWigs_Naxxramas.toc: Update toc to 30000, so it a little more clear |
02:37.05 | fewyn | gah i'm so bored |
02:37.09 | fewyn | i wish it was november |
02:37.23 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) |
02:39.42 | *** join/#wowace Aeyan (n=fake@cpe-071-076-230-073.triad.res.rr.com) |
02:53.57 | grennon | i see people use aceconfig and aceconfigregistry seemingly interchangeably in ace3 mods |
02:54.10 | grennon | when are you supposed to use registry? |
02:57.02 | *** join/#wowace cladhair_ (n=jnwhiteh@94-192-60-10.zone6.bethere.co.uk) |
02:57.48 | Xinhuan | registry is the core, everything else uses the registry |
03:10.36 | *** join/#wowace Megalon (n=starfox@d86-32-5-97.cust.tele2.at) |
03:11.27 | grennon | so IsEventRegistered bit the dust too |
03:12.30 | grennon | is CallBackHandler supposed to deprecate most use of AceEvent? |
03:14.10 | Bruners_ | why do the update addon button in the curse client redownload the addon? |
03:15.07 | kenlyric | ? |
03:15.09 | Arrowmaster | Bruners_: because thats how you update an addon |
03:15.16 | Arrowmaster | grennon: depends on how you use aceevent |
03:15.50 | Bruners_ | Arrowmaster: but its not really updated if its the same version is it? |
03:15.53 | grennon | well, my mod has a lots of binary options, they are either true or false, on startup, the toggles get loaded via aceconfig |
03:16.01 | Arrowmaster | Bruners_: i guess not |
03:16.03 | grennon | so a option being on might register an event |
03:16.15 | grennon | disabling the toggle would then unregister the event |
03:16.32 | Arrowmaster | grennon: you would still use aceevent for that |
03:16.47 | Arrowmaster | if the events are blizzard events |
03:16.53 | grennon | cool |
03:16.56 | Bruners_ | Arrowmaster: so it should be a message "addon already up to date- do you want to reinstall it" sort of |
03:17.32 | Arrowmaster | Bruners_: did it give any indication that an update was available? |
03:17.49 | grennon | is there a best practice for making my mod actually execute the toggles on startup? |
03:17.54 | syeren | Kekeke |
03:18.01 | syeren | America got shit on at Blizzcon :> |
03:18.19 | Arrowmaster | grennon: put a series of checks in your OnEnable? |
03:18.19 | Bruners_ | Arrowmaster: nope, i misclicked and it redownloaded all my addons |
03:18.28 | Arrowmaster | Bruners_: all? |
03:18.36 | grennon | hrm |
03:18.46 | Arrowmaster | hmm that does sound weird if it redownloaded all from a single click |
03:18.58 | Bruners_ | Arrowmaster: i had them all selected |
03:25.10 | Bruners_ | the parrot version located on curse dont have embedded libs |
03:30.42 | grennon | Arrowmaster: right, i forgot to copy over my old pairs/set(true) loops i had for setting my toggles |
03:30.55 | Arrowmaster | Bruners_: hey your right, somebody fucked up majorly |
03:31.04 | grennon | Arrowmaster: for some reason i thought those were auto-executed now, must be crack |
03:38.08 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight) |
03:38.08 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
03:38.38 | *** join/#wowace smcn (i=smcn@c-67-160-186-84.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
03:42.36 | Bruners_ | ckknight: the parrot version located on curse dont have embedded libs |
03:43.02 | Arrowmaster | ckk doesnt maintain parrot anymore |
03:43.06 | Arrowmaster | somebody else does |
03:43.52 | Bruners_ | Arrowmaster: ok, then the info on curse should be changed :) |
03:44.04 | Arrowmaster | he is still the original author |
03:44.49 | Bruners_ | Arrowmaster: yes, but project manager should be set to the one maintaining it |
03:46.05 | Parnic | is there a threat-2.0 or threat-3.0 lib that works in beta/wotlk yet? |
03:46.15 | Arrowmaster | Parnic: yes |
03:46.21 | Parnic | whereabouts? |
03:46.21 | Arrowmaster | Parnic: its called the blizzard API |
03:46.25 | Parnic | lol |
03:46.33 | Parnic | ok, so ace threat is going away then? |
03:46.43 | Arrowmaster | there was never any 'ace threat' |
03:46.54 | Parnic | the ace'd threat-2.0 library |
03:47.02 | Parnic | that is currently used by any threat-type addon |
03:47.02 | Arrowmaster | you mean threat-2.0 |
03:47.08 | Parnic | that's precisely what i mean |
03:47.15 | Parnic | the threat lib that was written in ace. pardon my shorthand ;) |
03:47.16 | Arrowmaster | dont call it ace'd |
03:47.20 | Parnic | sighs |
03:47.33 | Parnic | semantics aside, there will not be a lib for threat come wotlk, yes? |
03:47.41 | Arrowmaster | corrent |
03:47.44 | Arrowmaster | correct |
03:47.46 | Parnic | thank you :) |
03:51.09 | Xinhuan | there can be one if someone wants to write one |
03:51.16 | Xinhuan | it just isn't really necessary anymore |
03:51.47 | Bruners_ | is the new threat system good? |
03:51.55 | Xinhuan | decent, with some limitations |
03:52.04 | Bruners_ | how is it displayed? |
03:52.15 | Xinhuan | omen displays threat exactly like before |
03:52.36 | Bruners_ | so its just an api not meter? |
03:52.39 | Xinhuan | something like http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/omen.jpg |
03:52.47 | Xinhuan | yes, its just an API consisting of 1 useful function |
03:52.51 | Xinhuan | out of 4 functions |
03:52.56 | quiescens | fun |
03:53.30 | Xinhuan | the "Losing Threat" is part of blizzard's built in floating damage numbers/text |
03:53.59 | Bruners_ | is that printed just as you lose it or seconds before ? :P |
03:54.12 | Xinhuan | its printed just as you lose it ;p |
03:54.35 | quiescens | taunt! |
03:54.38 | Xinhuan | assuming you even turned on the blizzard numbers |
03:54.42 | Xinhuan | for damage text |
03:55.08 | Xinhuan | here, you can see that i had to target (or put the NPC) on focus |
03:55.14 | Xinhuan | in order to get its threat on the mob |
03:55.54 | Bruners_ | this should mean FD threat will be fixed then |
03:56.25 | Xinhuan | well there are 3 major limitations |
03:56.58 | Xinhuan | 1. You must be in combat with a mob to get threat numbers on it. |
03:57.21 | Xinhuan | if your pet (or main tank) is in combat, and you aren't, bad luck. no threat numbers |
03:57.45 | Bruners_ | that could be solved by sending data through addons channel ? |
03:57.52 | Xinhuan | yes, but the goal is no syncing |
03:58.02 | Xinhuan | syncing would defeat the purpose of the threat API |
03:58.14 | Arrowmaster | and also that wouldnt really solve much |
03:58.43 | Bruners_ | but if you are not in combat with that mob you dont have any threat on it either? |
03:58.46 | Xinhuan | 2. You cannot get threat details of stuff that nobody is targetting, and isn't part of your raid |
03:59.07 | Xinhuan | this means if there's 50 mobs and only 6 of them are targetted, you cannot get details on the other 44 |
03:59.45 | Xinhuan | this also means you can't get threat details of an NPC on another NPC (read: sathovarr on human kalecgos) unless someone are targetting them both |
04:00.32 | Xinhuan | 3. threat updates are about once per 1-2 seconds (this is actually faster than omen's throtled syncing transmission speed) |
04:01.16 | Xinhuan | in omen2, syncing is done at best once every 1.5 seconds |
04:01.25 | Xinhuan | in a 5-man party |
04:01.39 | Xinhuan | in a 25-man raid, its increased to about 2.5 seconds |
04:01.46 | Xinhuan | to reduce sync traffic |
04:02.40 | Xinhuan | (which initially disconnected ppl due to flooding, so compression/decompression was needed, so at the start of patch 2.4, omen2 went thru many iterations of incompatibility) |
04:03.21 | Bruners_ | i dont get why it would be so hard for blizzard to make that api |
04:03.46 | Xinhuan | bandwidth |
04:04.14 | Xinhuan | omen was transmitting 600 messages every 2 seconds, you know that? |
04:04.30 | Xinhuan | 25 people to 24 other people = 25x24 = 600 |
04:04.46 | Bruners_ | i didnt know the exact number but i knew it was huge |
04:04.48 | Xinhuan | now add in boss mods, damage meters syncing, and a bunch of other addons |
04:05.01 | Xinhuan | on top of that, syncing is received whether you used the addon or not |
04:05.18 | Bruners_ | but anyway, threat is already broadcasted some way and make it show on screen cant be that much more? |
04:05.19 | Xinhuan | meaning if i sent an addon message, everyone receives it whether they use said addon or not |
04:06.10 | *** join/#wowace Tesla6 (n=Owner@bas1-streetsville39-1279754420.dsl.bell.ca) |
04:06.52 | Xinhuan | if you listened in to the wow UI panel, when they design a UI, they are "designing it for the general mass of people" - it has to be simple and easy to use, and not overwhelm a new player with 10000 numbers |
04:07.26 | Xinhuan | addons, on the other hand, are designed with specific goals and needs to suit a specific group of people |
04:09.17 | *** part/#wowace Tesla6 (n=Owner@bas1-streetsville39-1279754420.dsl.bell.ca) |
04:11.19 | *** join/#wowace ins\ (n=ins@83.101.37.97) |
04:11.33 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: how much you going to pay me for a polar bear? |
04:11.44 | Xinhuan | how much do you want? |
04:11.52 | Arrowmaster | well i was going to ebay one |
04:12.11 | Xinhuan | that's kind of taking advaantage of your friend ;p |
04:12.16 | Xinhuan | for a profit |
04:12.18 | Arrowmaster | im poor |
04:12.37 | Xinhuan | sounds like wowmatrix analogy ;p |
04:12.44 | Xinhuan | but anyway, how much is it/ |
04:13.06 | Arrowmaster | like $40 USD + taxes and other stuff probably |
04:13.19 | Xinhuan | wouldn't the price already include taxes? |
04:13.25 | Arrowmaster | no |
04:13.28 | Xinhuan | o_O |
04:13.30 | Arrowmaster | we dont work that way around here |
04:13.36 | Bruners_ | taxes on an in-game code? |
04:13.48 | Arrowmaster | everything has added fees |
04:13.50 | Xinhuan | taxes on directv x 2 days |
04:13.50 | *** join/#wowace Kody- (n=kody@72-254-112-41.client.stsn.net) |
04:13.50 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Kody-] by ChanServ |
04:14.03 | *** join/#wowace Yssaril (n=Yssaril@adsl-99-145-231-186.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
04:14.19 | *** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
04:14.31 | Arrowmaster | buy something in a store and its like 6-9% sales tax depending on the state i think, 7% here |
04:14.50 | Xinhuan | wow DirectTv is such a ripoff |
04:14.51 | Bruners_ | they always have total price here |
04:14.56 | Arrowmaster | large purchases arent fun, they get larger |
04:15.03 | Xinhuan | $40 USD for both days right? |
04:15.06 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
04:15.31 | Arrowmaster | + a fee if you order through automated phone system |
04:15.33 | Bruners_ | only on soda cans they show the price before deposit |
04:15.39 | Xinhuan | in australia, for the same show, its $15 per day, you can just order one day or the other or both |
04:15.45 | Xinhuan | so $30 AUD for both days |
04:15.47 | Arrowmaster | + an even larger fee if you talk to an operator to assist you in ordering it |
04:15.57 | Xinhuan | and $30 AUD == about $14 USD |
04:16.26 | Repo | 10ace-gui-3-0-shared-media-widgets: 03yssaril * r4 / (2 files in 2 directories): delete old file |
04:16.27 | Repo | update toc |
04:17.02 | Xinhuan | Yssaril, what did you update? |
04:17.17 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster: http://www.mainevent.com.au/event.asp?id=540 |
04:17.17 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: the widgets now take the LSM:HashTable :) and i split each widget into its own file |
04:17.22 | Bruners_ | how do i upload files to a project? zip it and upload or? |
04:17.24 | Xinhuan | its half as cheap lol |
04:17.34 | Xinhuan | after considering the exchange rate, because |
04:17.43 | Xinhuan | the australian dollar plunged |
04:18.02 | Xinhuan | its value dropped 30% relative to singapore dollar and about 40% against US dollar |
04:18.04 | Xinhuan | sad huh |
04:18.12 | Arrowmaster | wow |
04:18.12 | quiescens | its not quite less than half as xinhuan claims |
04:18.14 | quiescens | lol |
04:18.19 | Xinhuan | so if i did use LSM.fonts |
04:18.23 | Xinhuan | i don't have to change anything? |
04:18.30 | quiescens | its somewhere between 60 and 70 cents down from 90ish |
04:18.43 | Jazr | mmm it's very sad |
04:20.18 | *** join/#wowace |Yssaril| (n=Yssaril@adsl-99-145-231-186.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
04:22.24 | *** join/#wowace _Yssaril_ (n=Yssaril@adsl-99-145-19-62.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
04:23.42 | _Yssaril_ | Xinhuan: you can still use AceGUIWidgetLSMlists but it just points to the HashTables |
04:25.10 | Xinhuan | so |
04:25.10 | Xinhuan | type = "select", dialogControl = 'LSM30_Font', |
04:25.14 | Xinhuan | values = AceGUIWidgetLSMlists.font, |
04:25.17 | Xinhuan | will still work fine yeah? |
04:25.22 | _Yssaril_ | yep |
04:25.27 | Xinhuan | btw, your library is nto LoD |
04:25.34 | Xinhuan | it fails on patch 3.0 because |
04:25.46 | Xinhuan | it dosen't force load LibSharedMedia-3.0 as that one is LoD |
04:26.17 | Xinhuan | there's a new [bug or feature?] in patch 3.0 where a LoD addon will no longer load whether its optdepped or reqdepped |
04:26.24 | Xinhuan | and the only way to load it is via LoadAddOn() |
04:26.36 | Xinhuan | this actually means that all Ace2 addons will continue to work |
04:26.37 | _Yssaril_ | so whats the point of LoD then? |
04:26.51 | Xinhuan | because AceLibrary-2.0 uses LoadAddOn() to force used library to load |
04:26.58 | Xinhuan | but all ace3 and rock addons will fail if disembedded |
04:27.16 | Xinhuan | well right now, LSM is LoD |
04:27.23 | Xinhuan | your lib uses LSM and is not LoD |
04:27.39 | Xinhuan | so your lib will load, LSM won't, and thus throw a LibStub error about library not found on line 5 |
04:27.43 | _Yssaril_ | so make it LoD and force LSM? |
04:27.54 | Xinhuan | there are 3 solutions |
04:27.59 | Xinhuan | or rather, workarounds |
04:28.07 | Xinhuan | workaround 1: make all libs NON-LoD |
04:28.12 | Xinhuan | which includes LSM |
04:28.13 | Arrowmaster | well yours is a lib anyway right so it should be LoD |
04:28.28 | Arrowmaster | well unless we use that workaround |
04:28.42 | Xinhuan | workaround 2: makes ALL LIBS LOD - and the addon that uses them must use LoadAddOn() on them at the start of their first file to force load them all |
04:29.08 | Xinhuan | so your lib must be LoD and include at the start on line 1 LoadAddOn("LibSharedMedia-3.0") |
04:29.21 | Xinhuan | and in my addon, i would load everything with LoadAddOn() |
04:29.43 | Xinhuan | workaround 3: embed libraries |
04:30.24 | Xinhuan | the problem here is Omen is not LoD, your lib is not LoD, wow decides to load your lib first (because it starts with A) |
04:30.33 | Xinhuan | doesn't load lsm3 |
04:32.14 | _Yssaril_ | since all libs are currently LOD i'll go that way unless the convention changes |
04:34.52 | Repo | 10ace-gui-3-0-shared-media-widgets: 03yssaril * r5 / (2 files in 2 directories): update toc to be LoD |
04:34.53 | Repo | force load LibSharedMedia-3.0 to make sure LSM is running first in WOTLK |
04:35.48 | Xinhuan | @project ace-gui-3-0-shared-media-widgets |
04:35.49 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ace-gui-3-0-shared-media-widgets/. AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets. Game: WoW. Leader: yssaril. Updated: 45 seconds ago. Tickets: 1/1 |
04:37.40 | Xinhuan | did you split it up into 5 widget files? |
04:37.46 | _Yssaril_ | Xinhuan: yes |
04:37.57 | Xinhuan | was that necessary? |
04:38.14 | _Yssaril_ | made it alot less confusing to edit each widget |
04:38.40 | _Yssaril_ | actually its 6 files there are some functions shared between widgets |
04:38.55 | Xinhuan | what's with that |
04:38.56 | Xinhuan | WWWWW = Media |
04:39.12 | Xinhuan | on line 7 |
04:39.49 | Xinhuan | your line11 blanktable is also unused |
04:39.59 | _Yssaril_ | damnit i forgot to take that out |
04:40.31 | Repo | 10ace-gui-3-0-shared-media-widgets: 03yssaril * r6 AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets/SharedFunctions.lua: remove leftover stuff |
04:40.44 | grennon | so, with .pkgmeta setup properly, can i remove the svn:externals properties ? or do those just get updated/created from .pkgmeta? |
04:41.18 | _Yssaril_ | grennon: you shouldn't use externals .pkmeta is the way to go |
04:41.19 | Bruners_ | how long would it normally take to get a project approved? |
04:41.23 | Xinhuan | yes, you can remove it grennon |
04:41.32 | Xinhuan | you should also remove embeds.xml |
04:41.43 | Xinhuan | and just put all those things in embeds.xml directly into the TOC |
04:41.51 | _Yssaril_ | Bruners_: whenever someone of the staff gets to it with BlizzCon idk how may are left |
04:41.59 | Xinhuan | use |
04:42.00 | Xinhuan | #@no-lib-strip@ |
04:42.03 | Xinhuan | #@end-no-lib-strip@ |
04:42.18 | Xinhuan | and put all the libs in between those 2 lines that you want for a embedded version |
04:42.25 | Xinhuan | like |
04:42.26 | Xinhuan | Libs\LibStub\LibStub.lua |
04:42.26 | Xinhuan | Libs\CallbackHandler-1.0\CallbackHandler-1.0.xml |
04:43.09 | grennon | brb |
04:43.10 | Xinhuan | the packager will strip everything between those 2 lines in the TOC for a nolib zip |
04:43.38 | Xinhuan | _Yssaril_, you have a beta key yeah? |
04:43.57 | _Yssaril_ | Xinhuan: yea widgets should work there |
04:44.33 | Xinhuan | oh you don't use libstub in your library, so it has no versioning ;p |
04:45.01 | _Yssaril_ | Xinhuan: no need since acegui versions each widget |
04:45.09 | Xinhuan | that's true |
04:45.43 | Xinhuan | can you download omen3 and see if you think it works ok? ;p |
04:46.16 | *** join/#wowace grennon (n=jdawg@c-75-64-65-68.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
04:46.49 | Yssaril | pulling from wrath clone fine? |
04:47.11 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/omen-threat-meter/repositories/wrath/files/ |
04:47.45 | Xinhuan | you should be fine with the nolib version, if you have ace3, LSM3 and AceGUIsmwisgets |
04:48.09 | grennon | lets see, interface version of 30200 should work for patch next week, right? |
04:48.29 | Xinhuan | no grennon, its just 30000 |
04:48.49 | Xinhuan | 30200 would imply patch 3.2.0, not patch 3.0.2 |
04:52.15 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: works like a charm maybe enable to set the header to differnt background/border from the body? |
04:53.25 | Xinhuan | fairly trivial to do that, but is it necessary? ;p |
04:53.56 | Yssaril | would be nice imo set it apart a bit |
04:58.23 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: shouldn't the header truncate if the window is too small for it? same with the bar text right now it just overlaps |
04:58.23 | *** join/#wowace echos (n=echos@ip72-199-89-69.sd.sd.cox.net) |
04:59.07 | Xinhuan | right now, the text sizes has no relation with the height of the bar |
04:59.31 | Xinhuan | as for strings that it tries to display that are too long... i'll add some stuff soon |
04:59.41 | Xinhuan | i didn't do it yet because i need to add a 3rd column for TPS |
05:00.05 | Yssaril | k looks really nice so for |
05:00.05 | Xinhuan | and that is tricky at best |
05:00.11 | Xinhuan | to make it look like omen2 |
05:00.21 | Xinhuan | change the background to "gametooltip" |
05:00.32 | Xinhuan | then change the "color of background" and change the hue to 0 |
05:00.45 | Xinhuan | then change the border color to blue |
05:00.55 | Xinhuan | and the border to "gametooltip" as well |
05:01.23 | Xinhuan | then it'll look like omen2 ;p |
05:01.39 | Yssaril | you may wanna set that as default :) |
05:02.17 | Xinhuan | i don't really want it to look like omen2 straight off the bat |
05:02.52 | Yssaril | understandable :) |
05:02.53 | grennon | hrm |
05:03.19 | grennon | anyone using tortoisesvn with the new svn+ssh? |
05:03.25 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: i noticed you added some sounds are they used anywhere yet? |
05:03.45 | Xinhuan | no |
05:03.59 | Xinhuan | those are the same ones added by omen2 |
05:04.08 | Xinhuan | i added a "you will die!" for giggles |
05:04.16 | Yssaril | saw that :) |
05:04.34 | Yssaril | should be default for dps classes when they pull agro imo |
05:04.53 | Xinhuan | it'll be a problem if ppl are in naxx |
05:04.56 | Xinhuan | i mean doing aq40 |
05:05.09 | Yssaril | how many still do? |
05:05.12 | grennon | im not even sure how to tell the svn client to use ssh as its transport to try to connect to the server |
05:05.19 | Xinhuan | ppl would, for the achievement to kill cthun |
05:05.32 | Xinhuan | or for rep |
05:06.47 | Yssaril | ic |
05:13.16 | *** join/#wowace silentium (i=silentiu@dslb-088-066-061-052.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
05:18.04 | Arrowmaster | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10871018107&postId=109709349352&sid=1#146 |
05:18.06 | Arrowmaster | so fun |
05:19.25 | Arrowmaster | and evil |
05:19.36 | Arrowmaster | going to get hell for that one |
05:22.30 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: rofl |
05:24.07 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: though you didn't explicitly say that you dont like those being updated through wowmatrix |
05:24.33 | Arrowmaster | i quoted him so i think its enough |
05:24.39 | Repo | 10minimalist: 03grennon * r69 / (6 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
05:24.39 | Repo | Minimalist: - |
05:24.40 | Repo | Ace2->Ace3 |
05:24.42 | Repo | Removed Embeds.xml |
05:24.46 | Repo | Fixed Abacus in pkgmeta |
05:24.46 | Arrowmaster | ill spell it out if he brings it up |
05:25.10 | Random | apple jacks and lemonade isnt quite a good combination |
05:25.38 | Repo | 10raid-cooldowns: 03tsigo * r7 Cooldowns.lua: |
05:25.38 | Repo | RaidCooldowns: Update Divine Shield spell ID to be compatible with 3.0. |
05:25.41 | grennon | that conversion wasnt so bad |
05:25.57 | grennon | considering i had weird aceoptions tables feeding dewdrop before |
05:26.28 | Arrowmaster | the problem is that i legally cant request wowmatrix to remove most of the stuff ive contributed to because they are under open source licences |
05:27.51 | grennon | wait, if you remove svn:externals, then you can't do a normal svn export and get the externals to double check your pathing and such, right? |
05:28.33 | Arrowmaster | grennon: right, you can setup your svn:externals to mirror your .pkgmeta though |
05:28.58 | grennon | oh? |
05:29.51 | Arrowmaster | just copy them from the pkgmeta, remove the leading spaces and the ':' after the path and set it as the svn:externals on trunk |
05:30.52 | Bruners_ | but why dont they just add the author blablabla to their page like any other addon page are doing |
05:31.26 | Xinhuan | why don't you email them and ask Bruners_ |
05:31.28 | Xinhuan | :) |
05:32.15 | Bruners_ | Xinhuan: i dont care enough, and i dont see any advertising on their page anyway :P |
05:32.34 | Xinhuan | lol Arrowmaster ;p |
05:33.04 | Arrowmaster | i have a felling he is going to object and say it doesnt count because i didnt 'write' them |
05:33.12 | Xinhuan | what liscense is Ace2 under? |
05:33.21 | Arrowmaster | LGPL2 |
05:33.27 | grennon | license to kill? |
05:33.32 | Arrowmaster | except AceOO-2.0 which is MIT |
05:33.37 | Xinhuan | that makes it legal to distribute as long as source code is given yeah? |
05:33.41 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
05:33.57 | grennon | can you distribute ace2 without the source somehow? :-) |
05:34.03 | Yssaril | why is AceOO under MIT? |
05:34.06 | Arrowmaster | although Ace2 isnt even on wowmatrix |
05:34.13 | Arrowmaster | or atleast not on the website |
05:34.19 | Zhinjio | Good evening, worthies. |
05:34.26 | Xinhuan | because Ace2 isn't an addon per-se |
05:34.55 | Arrowmaster | Yssaril: because it was considered a much more general OO emplimentation in Lua which could be easyly used for things outside of WoW |
05:35.08 | Yssaril | ahh |
05:35.10 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: Ace is though |
05:35.20 | *** join/#wowace echos (n=echos@ip72-199-89-69.sd.sd.cox.net) |
05:35.21 | Arrowmaster | but its an addon too |
05:35.46 | Arrowmaster | i think Ace officially dies with patch 3.0 |
05:36.13 | Arrowmaster | unless it already did and i didnt get the memo |
05:36.17 | Yssaril | there are things that still run on Ace and work? |
05:36.50 | Arrowmaster | if kc_items still works and kaelten never released the ace2 port then yeah |
05:37.07 | Arrowmaster | it was the reason kaelten even updated Ace for TBC |
05:37.18 | Yssaril | ahh |
05:38.31 | grennon | how do we claim a mod that didnt get auto-assigned during the switchover? i need to slap my name on AutoTurnin |
05:38.41 | Xinhuan | grennon: ask Arrowmaster |
05:38.44 | Arrowmaster | grennon: link me |
05:38.50 | Arrowmaster | i dont do searches |
05:38.58 | grennon | http://www.wowace.com/projects/auto-turnin/ |
05:39.13 | Arrowmaster | curse account name grennon? |
05:39.38 | grennon | yes |
05:39.43 | Arrowmaster | already done |
05:39.59 | grennon | danke |
05:40.12 | Arrowmaster | np mr smith |
05:40.33 | Arrowmaster | if that is your real name... |
05:41.01 | grennon | lets keep it professional, just call me Agent Smith |
05:42.32 | Bruners_ | any blizzcon vidoes i should see? |
05:42.41 | liquidzoo | Are you the Agent Smith that I got a telemarketing call for the other day? |
05:42.42 | liquidzoo | lol |
05:43.56 | grennon | no, im just an unfortunate person who was hired the same day as a Mr. Anderson who sits in the cube next to me |
05:44.06 | grennon | and thus nicknamed Agent Smith |
05:44.18 | Arrowmaster | lol |
05:44.21 | liquidzoo | lol |
05:44.41 | liquidzoo | I nearly laughed out loud at the telemarketer when he asked for Agent Smith. |
05:52.00 | kadrahil | ~purl should i go to get beer at 1am? |
05:52.02 | *** join/#wowace Sinova (n=oli_2qui@lpzg-4db334b6.pool.einsundeins.de) |
05:52.03 | kadrahil | :/ |
05:54.15 | *** join/#wowace Civrock_ (n=Civrock@24-182-71-043.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) |
05:58.15 | *** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
06:00.57 | *** join/#wowace copystring__ (n=copystri@p548A3B24.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
06:01.24 | Xinhuan | damn died again |
06:01.28 | Xinhuan | i'm all broken red now in beta lol |
06:02.29 | Repo | 10minimalist: 03grennon * r70 / (3 files in 1 directory): Minimalist: |
06:02.29 | Repo | I need CallbackHandler |
06:02.30 | Repo | I still need externals |
06:03.40 | Xinhuan | no you don't ;p |
06:03.47 | Xinhuan | CBH and Libstub are currently forcefully packaged |
06:03.55 | Xinhuan | even in the nolib version |
06:04.51 | Xinhuan | but in the no-lib version, you would assume that the standalone libs have already loaded CBH and Libstub |
06:04.56 | Xinhuan | so you don't need to load them yourselves |
06:05.10 | Xinhuan | kind of a big catch-22 |
06:05.35 | Xinhuan | winks at grennon. O_- |
06:06.15 | *** join/#wowace echos (n=echos@ip72-199-89-69.sd.sd.cox.net) |
06:06.17 | grennon | well, i stripped all mods from my beta copy |
06:06.20 | Xinhuan | also note this issue grennon: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10971929880&sid=1 |
06:06.30 | Xinhuan | if your addon uses any LoD libraries |
06:06.30 | grennon | and installed the version off curse |
06:06.45 | grennon | it plain didnt bundle callbackhandler |
06:06.53 | Xinhuan | you need to use LoadAddOn() on ALL those standalone lod libs at the top of your |
06:06.58 | Xinhuan | first file |
06:07.05 | Xinhuan | before you use :NewAddon() |
06:08.17 | grennon | i forgot to add libstub to the deps anyway |
06:08.21 | grennon | so it wasnt loading anyhow |
06:08.23 | grennon | heh |
06:12.24 | Repo | 10minimalist: 03grennon * r71 : Minimalist: |
06:12.25 | Repo | Fix tiny issue with external call |
06:13.55 | Arrowmaster | grennon: use the addresses listed on http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=84 |
06:14.15 | Arrowmaster | and libstub and callbackhandler will always be included in you zips, even the nolib one |
06:15.39 | grennon | the one generated from my first checking tonight only had stub |
06:18.43 | Repo | 10mounted: 03yssaril 07master * 0.0.15b-3-gd5e93c6 Mounted.lua: [+2 commits] |
06:18.44 | Repo | d5e93c6: Merge branch 'master' of git@git.wowace.com:wow/mounted/mainline |
06:18.45 | Repo | 75b0cb5: made 100% sure that macros will not be changed during combat |
06:19.13 | backbone87 | someone knows a convenient addon for performance tracking? |
06:19.19 | grennon | are the leading spaces in .pkgmeta anything other than cosmetic? |
06:19.26 | Arrowmaster | grennon: yes |
06:19.40 | Arrowmaster | they are part of the yaml format |
06:20.07 | Yssaril | grennon: you can also use leading tabs |
06:20.38 | Arrowmaster | no |
06:20.45 | Arrowmaster | well yes but no |
06:21.11 | Yssaril | hmm always worked for me |
06:21.41 | Arrowmaster | you arent suppost to use tabs as that makes it not valid yaml anymore, but they did add some code to the script that converts leading tabs to spaces before it tries to parse it as yaml |
06:22.13 | Yssaril | ahh |
06:24.22 | *** join/#wowace Diskmaster (n=YOURFACE@76.85.147.197) |
06:28.39 | Repo | 10minimalist: 03grennon * r72 / (3 files in 1 directory): Minimalist: |
06:28.39 | Repo | Another whack at normalized externals |
06:29.17 | *** join/#wowace HolgerDK (n=markj@0x57372af1.nfnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
06:37.52 | *** join/#wowace Srosh (n=Srosh@c210058.adsl.hansenet.de) |
06:40.34 | Repo | 10minimalist: 03grennon * r73 / (4 files in 1 directory): Minimalist: |
06:40.34 | Repo | Apparently I need AceGUI |
06:44.51 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower (n=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
06:44.51 | *** mode/#wowace [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
06:45.02 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
06:48.12 | Repo | 10buffalo: 03Daedhir * r204 Buffalo.toc: M Buffalo.toc |
06:48.16 | grennon | Xinhuan: uh, so that issue was affecting mods that have embedded libs in their own file tree? |
06:48.29 | Xinhuan | which one? |
06:48.43 | Xinhuan | i'm not following your train of thought |
06:49.16 | *** join/#wowace Vilkku (n=Vilkku@86-60-157-18-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) |
06:49.29 | grennon | im testing an empty beta folder with just my mod in it, with its deps installed underneath |
06:49.41 | grennon | so would i run into the loadondemand problem there? |
06:49.45 | Xinhuan | no |
06:49.55 | Xinhuan | wait, what do you mean |
06:49.56 | Xinhuan | by |
06:50.01 | Xinhuan | "with its deps installed underneath" |
06:50.05 | Xinhuan | sounds vague to me |
06:50.06 | *** join/#wowace quoin- (n=quoin@115-166-4-86.ip.adam.com.au) |
06:50.08 | grennon | Foo/Libs |
06:50.13 | Xinhuan | you're fine |
06:50.21 | Xinhuan | refer http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=241860#post241860 |
06:50.29 | Xinhuan | if you need to see exactly what the problem is |
06:50.30 | grennon | then damn, ive got something else weird going on thats not affecting my live install |
06:52.46 | grennon | i set self.db to a libstub of acedb in oninitialize, and then when i try accessing self.db in onenable it thinks its nil |
06:52.58 | grennon | no problem on live, just beta |
06:53.49 | Xinhuan | did you use the correct variable? |
06:53.57 | Xinhuan | did you supply a defaults table? |
06:54.41 | Xinhuan | did you use LoadAddOn() after declaring :NewAddOn() ? |
06:54.48 | Xinhuan | all of these will break acedb |
06:55.31 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: btw did blizzard say anything about the LoD change? |
06:55.36 | Xinhuan | no |
06:55.45 | grennon | dont use loadaddon period |
06:57.59 | grennon | tuesday is going to be fun |
06:58.18 | grennon | maybe the problem will reveal itself over breakfast tomorrow, night |
06:59.33 | Xinhuan | only way around not using LoadAddOn() is to embed libraries |
06:59.39 | Xinhuan | OR make all libs non-lod |
07:02.20 | Xinhuan | i wonder how much it will cost to buy an inflatable frostmourne on ebay |
07:02.22 | Xinhuan | :D |
07:04.32 | Xinhuan | ok that was a really random thought lol |
07:05.11 | Aeyan | But what about the bubble hearthing paladin? |
07:06.45 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x573bccca.henqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
07:20.25 | backbone87 | Xinhuan: why dont modify libstub so that it loads needed libs/addons |
07:20.49 | Xinhuan | i'm not one of the 6 authors that wrote libstub |
07:21.16 | backbone87 | or any other container |
07:22.05 | *** join/#wowace WyriHaximus (n=jezussie@i131220.upc-i.chello.nl) |
07:22.43 | Yssaril | should be put into aceaddon imo since libstub just versions the libs basically |
07:23.32 | backbone87 | didnt solve the "lib requires lib" problem |
07:23.42 | Yssaril | nm libstub might be better (need sleep) |
07:24.15 | *** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
07:27.09 | *** join/#wowace Carancu (n=carancu@c83-255-70-30.bredband.comhem.se) |
07:30.39 | *** join/#wowace MoonWolf (n=MoonWolf@i209133.upc-i.chello.nl) |
07:30.39 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
07:34.00 | *** join/#wowace cladhaire (n=jnwhiteh@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire) |
07:34.00 | *** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ |
07:42.09 | *** join/#wowace [quoin] (n=quoin@115-166-4-86.ip.adam.com.au) |
07:42.29 | *** join/#wowace Kalman| (n=delay@141.161.128.36) |
07:49.45 | *** join/#wowace quoin (n=quoin@115-166-4-86.ip.adam.com.au) |
07:50.12 | *** join/#wowace Industrial (n=Industri@194.145.194.227) |
07:52.27 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
07:58.06 | *** join/#wowace _neuron_ (n=x@85.252.65.217) |
08:02.47 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
08:07.09 | *** join/#wowace cladhaire (n=jnwhiteh@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire) |
08:07.09 | *** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ |
08:08.42 | *** join/#wowace Adirelle (n=adirelle@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
08:09.22 | Trela | I never really talked with the developers in the WoWAce community as much as this before. |
08:11.19 | sylvanaar | noone has said anything for an hour |
08:12.00 | Fisker- | i hate you |
08:12.12 | Zyndrome | nobody said they like you either |
08:12.13 | Zyndrome | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
08:12.50 | *** join/#wowace Pazza_ (n=john@cpe-68-173-188-62.nyc.res.rr.com) |
08:13.07 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
08:14.19 | *** join/#wowace Lyn (n=Lyn@Ld367.l.pppool.de) |
08:14.50 | Fisker- | farts on Zyndrome |
08:14.51 | Fisker- | :( |
08:14.59 | Fisker- | your forced my hand |
08:15.10 | Zyndrome | >>your |
08:15.38 | Fisker- | i hate you |
08:17.55 | *** join/#wowace Aikawa (n=shingo@p5B0572B8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
08:19.49 | Trela | growls and noms on some one. |
08:20.38 | *** join/#wowace [SW]Dodge (n=Miranda@p508CD658.dip.t-dialin.net) |
08:23.27 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
08:24.48 | *** join/#wowace charon (n=thomas@unaffiliated/charon) |
08:25.30 | Zyndrome | oh gosh look at the time |
08:25.32 | Zyndrome | IT'S RAGE TIME |
08:25.33 | Zyndrome | http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=1YpYswGtg5s |
08:26.35 | *** join/#wowace Shirik|Ecole (i=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
08:26.35 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
08:27.35 | *** join/#wowace [ND] (n=[ND]@h062040167062.gun.cm.kabsi.at) |
08:27.37 | *** join/#wowace Shirik|zZz (n=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
08:27.37 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik|zZz] by ChanServ |
08:31.39 | *** join/#wowace yoshimo (n=chatzill@p5B0C21C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
08:33.47 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
08:36.11 | Bruners_ | i got my project approved on curseforge, now what? |
08:38.36 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack_ (n=Godzmack@85-220-59-213.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
08:42.01 | Trela | Upload files! |
08:42.26 | Bruners_ | did that |
08:44.07 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
08:46.06 | Repo | 10buffalo: 03Nimbal * r205 .pkgmeta: * Fixed pkgmeta |
08:47.22 | Repo | 10buffalo: 03Nimbal * r206 : Fixed externals |
08:52.04 | Repo | 10buffalo: 03Nimbal * r207 / (2 files in 1 directory): * Another small tweak to externals |
08:52.23 | Arrowmaster | get files approved! |
08:52.23 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
08:52.44 | Bruners_ | did that |
08:53.11 | Bruners_ | i guess im missing something important |
08:53.38 | *** join/#wowace Shirik|Ghost (n=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
08:53.38 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik|Ghost] by ChanServ |
08:55.07 | Repo | 10buffalo: 03Nimbal * r208 Buffalo.lua: * Fixed nil error |
08:55.46 | *** join/#wowace ins\ (n=ins@83.101.37.97) |
08:56.19 | Arrowmaster | get downloads! |
08:58.56 | *** join/#wowace Aikawa (n=shingo@p5B05602B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
09:02.44 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
09:05.07 | *** join/#wowace Bibi (n=Bibi@AVelizy-151-1-44-2.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
09:10.34 | *** join/#wowace Sirow (n=Sirow001@p57A4CB3A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
09:11.18 | *** join/#wowace EthanCentaurai (n=EthanCen@78.149.181.45) |
09:12.50 | *** join/#wowace profalbert (n=profalbe@80-123-38-60.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
09:13.09 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
09:13.57 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack- (n=Godzmack@85-220-59-213.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
09:21.55 | Xinhuan | LibSink-2.0\LibSink-2.0.lua:388: attempt to call method 'error' (a nil value) |
09:22.32 | Arrowmaster | .... |
09:23.10 | *** join/#wowace Shirik|Ghost (i=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
09:23.10 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik|Ghost] by ChanServ |
09:23.14 | *** join/#wowace ThiefMaster (i=thief@unaffiliated/thiefmaster) |
09:23.32 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
09:26.03 | *** join/#wowace Jens-Rex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
09:28.33 | *** join/#wowace Movix (n=mattes@82.242.144.196) |
09:29.33 | *** join/#wowace dafire (n=warlock@dslb-088-070-057-133.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
09:29.45 | *** join/#wowace Camci (n=enescamc@ua-83-227-134-226.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
09:29.48 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 04v6.0.2 Release * r111 : Tagging as v6.0.2 Release. |
09:29.50 | Repo | Fix frFR... |
09:29.54 | Repo | 10closet-gnome_banker: 03Rabbit * r61 Banker.lua: Make sure we really retrieve all sets from the bank. |
09:29.59 | *** join/#wowace orionshock (n=chatzill@ip68-225-195-1.ph.ph.cox.net) |
09:30.13 | *** join/#wowace Bibi` (n=Bibi@AVelizy-151-1-96-154.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
09:30.54 | ThiefMaster | umm this new curse updater is crap... |
09:31.01 | ThiefMaster | it doesn't show most of my installed addons.. |
09:31.44 | Gnarfoz | because it doesn't detect them. it remembers what it itself installed. basically this means, if you want to manage your addons with it, reinstall them through CC |
09:31.45 | Bruners_ | working as intended here after i removed everything and installed with the client |
09:31.58 | ThiefMaster | that's pretty big bs :x |
09:32.08 | ThiefMaster | i wonder why WAU isn't maintained anymore.. was much nicer |
09:32.25 | Gnarfoz | who says anything about maintained? |
09:32.28 | Gnarfoz | the back-end is gone. |
09:32.34 | ThiefMaster | that's what i mean |
09:33.11 | vhaarr | perhaps you should read the forums then, do a bit of research |
09:33.16 | Gnarfoz | well, unless you want to pay for 40TB of bandwith (or more) each month, this was something that had to be done ;> |
09:33.18 | vhaarr | it has been answered approximately 361 times |
09:33.33 | ThiefMaster | is it at least possible to use external libs with the curse updater? |
09:33.42 | Bruners_ | not yet |
09:33.43 | Gnarfoz | not yet |
09:34.08 | ThiefMaster | great.. tons of duplicate stuff |
09:34.16 | *** join/#wowace syeren (i=syeren@cpc3-oldh5-0-0-cust762.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
09:34.43 | Gnarfoz | yeah, on your disk. the only thing this means is longer login times =) |
09:35.14 | *** join/#wowace Vegeta]BT[ (n=Vegeta-G@xdslgo000.osnanet.de) |
09:35.58 | Arrowmaster | its coming soon |
09:36.26 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
09:38.01 | Bruners_ | if a lib is already loaded at the first addon will it be reloaded 10 times if its 10 more addons that use it? |
09:39.10 | Gnarfoz | Bruners_: err |
09:39.11 | *** join/#wowace Jens-Rex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
09:39.21 | Bruners_ | or would the last addon with an old version write over the first addons libs? |
09:40.14 | Gnarfoz | obviously every file in your addon dir will get loaded, that also means if you have 10 addons that use lib-example-1.0 then it will get loaded 10 times. but there's "smart" code involved that will make sure that the superfluous 9 copies will get garbage collected at the next GC interval |
09:40.31 | Gnarfoz | (that is, if all lib versions are identical. if not, the most up to date one will stay in memory) |
09:40.41 | ThiefMaster | anyone knows if there's a hacked curse updater version which doesn't have this stupid 4 second ad window? |
09:40.46 | Bruners_ | that was my question :) |
09:40.57 | dafire | hey... why don't we set LibStub as "AddonLoader" ... this will make libraries LoD automaticly if LibStub is disembeded. |
09:40.57 | ThiefMaster | the ads in wau were ok.. but waiting for EVERY SINGLE ADDON is just bs |
09:41.09 | Gnarfoz | ThiefMaster: curse premium ftw? ;p |
09:41.17 | ThiefMaster | paying for addons? no thx |
09:41.31 | Bruners_ | you are not paying for addons |
09:41.33 | Gnarfoz | dafire: uhm that was something acelibrary did. |
09:41.36 | syeren | From what I have read, the actual curse client itself isn't worth paying for to begin with Gnarfoz :P |
09:41.40 | Gnarfoz | ThiefMaster: then wait for the ads. :p |
09:41.40 | Bruners_ | but paying for using the updater to update your addons |
09:41.42 | dafire | Gnarfoz: no.. it did not |
09:41.49 | Gnarfoz | dafire: yes, it did... |
09:42.08 | dafire | Gnarfoz: no .. it loaded lod addons. but it was not an addonloader technically |
09:42.28 | Gnarfoz | it loaded necessary libraries. |
09:42.43 | Gnarfoz | which is *exactly* what you were saying, sans the technical background of marking it as an addon loader. |
09:43.27 | dafire | Gnarfoz: no.. since without acelibrary the library were not loaded automaticly |
09:43.43 | Gnarfoz | so? without LibStub, the same would happen. |
09:43.49 | dafire | no.. |
09:43.56 | Gnarfoz | =[ |
09:44.04 | Gnarfoz | seriously, it's a bad idea. :P |
09:44.07 | dafire | check was "AddonLoader" in toc does |
09:44.17 | dafire | then we can speak again |
09:44.23 | Bruners_ | ThiefMaster: but, isnt the premium stuff open for all at the moment? |
09:44.37 | ThiefMaster | no idea, at least i get ads when installing an addon |
09:44.52 | dafire | i think the free premium is over |
09:45.05 | Bruners_ | im not and i installed the client yesterday |
09:46.42 | ThiefMaster | not sure about this auto update stuff.. even witouh premium - can i still update all addons manually with a single click? |
09:47.14 | silentium | is that curse updater still unable to install noext versions? I dont wanna have to redownload 10 addons just because one lib changes, I prefer just loading that one new lib version |
09:47.24 | *** join/#wowace Belazor (n=Vulcanus@212251188096.customer.cdi.no) |
09:47.37 | syeren | Keke |
09:48.00 | syeren | Can't wait until next Tuesday / Wednesday when Curse will have to put up with a headache from everyone telling them how shit their client is. |
09:48.01 | syeren | :> |
09:48.43 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack_ (n=Godzmack@85-220-59-213.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
09:49.07 | ThiefMaster | agreed |
09:49.35 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
09:49.42 | *** join/#wowace NimbleRabit (n=NimbleRa@75-171-219-145.hlrn.qwest.net) |
09:49.45 | ThiefMaster | they should simply continue WAU and show ads from curse there.. |
09:51.43 | Bruners_ | or just let them finish the curseclient and make everyone happy |
09:54.31 | sb | *sigh* i want FigurePrints to be available in germany :/ |
09:54.32 | Adirelle | silentium: not standalone lib yet, but the addons *are not* packaged again when a library changed |
09:55.42 | *** join/#wowace cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
09:55.53 | Adirelle | dafire: having "## AddonLoader: addonA" in addonB toc just means addonA is responsible for loading addonB with LoadAddOn. if addonB does not do it, addonA won't ever be loaded |
09:56.18 | dafire | sure .. |
09:56.27 | Gnarfoz | Adirelle: thanks, I was waiting for him to notice :p |
09:57.46 | vhaarr | I'm getting reports from my guild of people having problems with the background downloader, it gets stuck at some point and then says "There were multiple problems saving data.", anyone else experiencing the same thing? |
09:57.46 | Adirelle | so adding LibStub as an AddonLoader of all libraries is almost the same as adding "LoadOnDemand: 1", given LibStub is present |
09:58.03 | vhaarr | happens for me as well |
09:58.15 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: i had it stuck on some point downloading stuff, and then discarding the data because checksum seems invalid *shrug |
09:59.02 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: mine just continues downloading from http://dist.blizzard.com.edgesuite.net/WoW/ (from the "Connection info" dialog) |
09:59.04 | vhaarr | at 32kb/s |
09:59.12 | vhaarr | has been the same for hours and hours now |
09:59.16 | vhaarr | and it never gets anywhere |
09:59.20 | nevcairiel | yeah mine downloads too |
09:59.25 | nevcairiel | but the progress doesnt increase |
09:59.35 | nevcairiel | ==> its throwing the data away |
09:59.37 | vhaarr | indeed |
09:59.57 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
10:00.03 | vhaarr | so I'm at loss as to what I should do, I've tried restarting it already, had no effect |
10:00.04 | *** join/#wowace digmouse (n=chatzill@58.217.204.87) |
10:00.33 | vhaarr | erm wtf |
10:00.41 | digmouse | g'morning |
10:00.43 | nevcairiel | just wait until blizz fixes it, i guess |
10:00.52 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x573bccca.henqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
10:00.59 | Adirelle | have you tried a 3rd-party torrent client ? |
10:01.08 | vhaarr | it's downloading from "http://dist.blizzard.com.edgesuite.net/WoW/WoW-2.4.3-to-3.0.2/WoW-2.4.3-to-3.0.2-TBC-EU-OSX-Stage3.pieces" |
10:01.12 | vhaarr | note the "OSX" part |
10:01.14 | sb | vhaarr: stuck at 99%? |
10:01.17 | vhaarr | I'm on linux |
10:01.21 | vhaarr | 95%, actually |
10:01.30 | sb | mhh, its 99% for me... (windows) |
10:01.43 | sb | seens to be some EU-only problem :O |
10:01.57 | *** join/#wowace dabujo (i=xx@p4FDB38B7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
10:02.11 | vhaarr | just hope I won't have to download the whole thing again, my connection is pretty slow :p |
10:02.34 | Gnarfoz | I d/l'd the torrents manually, put them where they belong, started the bg downloader, got that error once |
10:02.42 | Gnarfoz | restarted it, and it showed 'finished' that time |
10:03.00 | silentium | I've just started the background downloader for a sec to get the latest .torrent file which I've then loaded into µtorrent to dl the files at max speed *shrug* |
10:04.07 | ThiefMaster | hm just read that you get premium for free as an author.. where do you have to claim ownershion on your addons and where do you request that free premium access? |
10:04.28 | silentium | if you started the download with the blizz client and want to switch to a regular BT client now, make sure to rename the files and remove the ".part" thing first so you dont need to redownload everything |
10:05.06 | *** join/#wowace eoM_rM (n=moe@p5489F2CF.dip.t-dialin.net) |
10:05.16 | vhaarr | nah I'll just let it run |
10:07.14 | Xinhuan | good bye friends, i'm going out :) |
10:07.30 | Stanzilla | that can't be true |
10:07.39 | Xinhuan | stabs Stanzilla with a pillow |
10:07.42 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan is faking real life :P |
10:08.20 | digmouse | otacon |
10:10.19 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
10:10.53 | digmouse | 3.0 goes live on 14 confirmed? |
10:11.19 | Gnarfoz | it's pretty obvious. however, as usual, there are no confirmations. :> |
10:13.59 | *** join/#wowace [dRaCo] (n=drc@p5B22AF35.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
10:14.08 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack- (n=Godzmack@85-220-59-213.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
10:15.56 | Bruners_ | how do i get my project published on curse.com ? |
10:17.22 | backbone87 | tag it to a beta/release |
10:18.04 | backbone87 | and of course set up .pkgmeta properly |
10:18.07 | Matrix110 | is there a .torrent for the Blizzcon stuff yet I cant find one :-( |
10:18.27 | backbone87 | there are faq's on wowace/curse how to do that |
10:19.34 | ThiefMaster | which fubar plucins should i use? the "fubar - xxx" ones or the "fubar_xxx" ones? (same xxx, so i guess one is the imported ace version and one was already on curse?) |
10:19.38 | ThiefMaster | *plugins |
10:20.26 | backbone87 | hmm check the version tags, if it's the same it should not matter, which you choose |
10:20.42 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
10:21.02 | Bruners_ | backbone87: do i need a .pkgmeta file? |
10:22.25 | ThiefMaster | ah.. the fubar - xxx seem to be extremely outdated |
10:23.14 | backbone87 | Bruners_: dont know... but if it is optional, having one is definitely better to have one, because you can give the packager some handy instructions |
10:23.28 | backbone87 | like ignores/externals/renames |
10:23.31 | *** join/#wowace krka (n=krka@c83-250-32-31.bredband.comhem.se) |
10:24.27 | Bruners_ | backbone87: dont need any of that really |
10:25.13 | Adirelle | Bruners_: you may still need to name the Addon directory ("package-as" entry) |
10:25.22 | backbone87 | http://www.curseforge.com/knowledge-base/pkgmeta-file/ |
10:25.32 | *** join/#wowace Movix (n=mattes@82.242.144.196) |
10:26.01 | Adirelle | e.g. if your project shortname is "do-something" but the addon real name is "DoSomething" you have to add "package-as: DoSomething" in .pkgmeta |
10:26.29 | *** join/#wowace Whitetooth_ (n=chatzill@118-169-197-249.dynamic.hinet.net) |
10:26.54 | backbone87 | it have to be said that this only renames the folder in the zip file, not the zip file (the "package") itself |
10:27.34 | Adirelle | actually, if your TOC file is DoSomething.toc and the folder is "do-something", you're doomed, whatever the zip filename is |
10:28.07 | Bruners_ | they are all got the same name both folder and toc |
10:28.30 | Adirelle | (and BTW, I'd bet package-as does rename the zpifile) |
10:28.55 | backbone87 | so you have something like .../trunk/MyAddon/ ? |
10:29.33 | Bruners_ | yes, uploaded it with svn |
10:29.48 | backbone87 | then you have to use the .pkgmeta |
10:29.54 | backbone87 | i think |
10:29.59 | backbone87 | dont really know |
10:30.08 | Bruners_ | make it and upload it like the others then ? |
10:30.08 | Adirelle | wait |
10:30.31 | Adirelle | Bruners_: what's you project ? |
10:31.02 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
10:31.15 | Bruners_ | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cc-gloss/ |
10:31.25 | backbone87 | as far as i unterstand it, the whole trunk is packaged into the zip unless you specify it in another way in the .pkgmeta |
10:31.59 | *** join/#wowace vhaarr (n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr) |
10:31.59 | *** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ |
10:32.14 | *** join/#wowace Jyll (n=mortat@cp104568-b.mill1.nb.home.nl) |
10:32.21 | *** part/#wowace Jyll (n=mortat@cp104568-b.mill1.nb.home.nl) |
10:32.32 | backbone87 | ok you do not have .../trunk/MyAddon/... |
10:32.55 | backbone87 | only /trunk/... so it dont have to be moved, when packaging |
10:33.54 | backbone87 | package-as: Monkey |
10:34.14 | backbone87 | where monkey is your tocs filename |
10:34.39 | backbone87 | put this in the .pkgmeta file and put in the trunk folder, and all should be fine |
10:34.56 | Adirelle | actually it seems that the packager is rather smart |
10:35.33 | Adirelle | I think it looks for the .toc file to get the default package name |
10:36.13 | Adirelle | since cc-gloss doesn't have any .pkgmeta, is named cc-gloss and is still packaged with the right name |
10:36.27 | Bruners_ | stupid windows and its file names |
10:36.31 | nevcairiel | Adirelle: you can set the package name on the CF website too |
10:36.41 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: right |
10:36.54 | Bruners_ | ok, what should i be doing then ? |
10:36.54 | Adirelle | so maybe the packager isn't so smart :p |
10:38.03 | Bruners_ | is there a way to rename dir to ls ? :P |
10:38.20 | Adirelle | not on windows |
10:39.18 | Gnarfoz | since dir is not a program... |
10:40.11 | Bruners_ | ok uploaded the .pkgmeta now |
10:40.34 | [SW]Dodge | Bruners_: create a ls.bat with "dir" in it in one of the folders that are in PATH |
10:41.03 | [SW]Dodge | like c:\windows\system32 |
10:41.21 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
10:41.50 | Gnarfoz | or just install ls! |
10:41.58 | Gnarfoz | it's not like GnuWin32 doesn't exist |
10:42.07 | backbone87 | Bruners_: you tagged it allready as v1.0 |
10:42.36 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack_ (n=Godzmack@85-220-59-213.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
10:42.40 | backbone87 | without the .pkgmeta, so this change will take an effect only when you tag next time |
10:43.08 | Bruners_ | so tag it one more as 1.1! or w/e ? |
10:43.40 | dafire | [SW]Dodge: shouldn "alias dir=ls" |
10:43.45 | dafire | 'be easier ? |
10:44.04 | Repo | 10closet-gnome_tooltip: 03Rabbit * r43 / (2 files in 1 directory): Update to work with the latest CG. |
10:44.05 | [SW]Dodge | dafire: windows commandline support alias? |
10:44.41 | dafire | hmm |
10:44.57 | dafire | i don't know and i don't have windows booted right now to check .9 |
10:45.05 | [SW]Dodge | hrhr |
10:45.21 | [SW]Dodge | Der Befehl "alias" ist entweder falsch geschrieben oder konnte nicht gefunden werden. |
10:45.24 | [SW]Dodge | no alias :) |
10:45.31 | Stanzilla | http://www.ripten.com/2008/10/10/wow-whore-has-36-accounts-raids-by-himself/ |
10:45.31 | Bruners_ | backbone87: it is now tagged again |
10:45.32 | Stanzilla | :O |
10:45.35 | dafire | but with the bat thing he can't use command line parameters.. |
10:45.40 | backbone87 | Bruners_: so just wait |
10:45.50 | backbone87 | the packager needs a few minutes |
10:45.50 | dafire | should be "dir %1 %2 %3" or something like that |
10:45.57 | backbone87 | around 30 ;) |
10:46.22 | [SW]Dodge | dafire: he just asked for dir to ls not command lines ^^ |
10:47.06 | Bruners_ | it was not really a question, just me being annoyed over always typing ls |
10:48.26 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r14 / (5 files in 4 directories): Fix a few embedded library problems. |
10:51.02 | Adirelle | Bruners_: do not ask such question on this channel :p |
10:51.21 | [SW]Dodge | Stanzilla: wtf |
10:51.42 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
10:51.46 | Repo | 10big-wigs_naxxramas: 037destiny * r5 Thaddius.lua: BigWigs_Naxxramas: koKR Update |
10:56.41 | sylvanaar | 583k for Prat, 780k for Prat_Libraries - yay'z |
10:57.21 | *** join/#wowace Trela (n=Alexia@pa-67-234-178-158.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
10:57.29 | Trela | flops around the room. |
10:57.34 | *** join/#wowace Matrix110 (i=Matrix11@pD957C7E1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
10:58.07 | *** join/#wowace fewyn (n=fewyn@46.210.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) |
10:59.34 | Trela | I post a new AddOn and get more downloads on it in a day than my older well established one. X3 |
11:00.34 | [dRaCo] | what's it do? |
11:00.41 | Trela | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/cleanminimap.aspx |
11:00.49 | Fisker- | old news is old Stanzilla |
11:01.31 | Trela | I realize there is a fatal flaw in it now, but I can fix that. |
11:02.05 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
11:02.55 | Bruners_ | how much hit is ok for doing kara as rogue? |
11:03.20 | [dRaCo] | as much as you can get if you're combat |
11:03.46 | [dRaCo] | well, you should have capped your styles before you go there |
11:03.49 | Trela | I have 217 hit as a bad rogue going into Karazhan. It really helps. |
11:04.25 | *** join/#wowace Jens-Rex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
11:06.32 | sylvanaar | need a "non-nolib-strip" |
11:08.06 | Repo | 10visualheal: 03xbeeps 047.1 * r7 : Tagging as 7.1. |
11:09.27 | Trela | I need to make FubarPlugin 3.0 hidewithoutstandby for my CleanMinimap, but it does not show up in the Rock options. I can not find it in the LUA either. @.x |
11:09.34 | krka | Trela: You shouldn't capitalize Lua like that :( |
11:09.45 | Trela | LUA |
11:10.08 | Stanzilla | L.U.A. |
11:10.29 | Trela | Lunatics Using Assembly |
11:11.08 | Mikk | Lua <- "Moon" in Portugese |
11:11.43 | Stanzilla | we know, mikk :P |
11:11.54 | Mikk | Oh, I know a lot of people know already |
11:11.58 | Mikk | Obviously not everyone ;) |
11:12.29 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r15 Prat-3.0.toc: Test the no-lib-strip stuff |
11:12.37 | Bruners_ | pugging kara with total randoms, this is going to be GREAT |
11:14.26 | Stanzilla | that's funny, someone used my email and his home address to sign up on itunes |
11:14.34 | Stanzilla | and is buying all the free songs now |
11:14.38 | Stanzilla | and I get the confirmation mails |
11:14.45 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
11:15.30 | *** join/#wowace Hjalte (n=chatzill@62.242.38.50) |
11:16.38 | Camci | [13:14] <Stanzilla> and is buying all the free songs now |
11:16.50 | Camci | buying and free - make no sense |
11:16.52 | Camci | :p |
11:17.17 | Stanzilla | meh |
11:17.22 | Stanzilla | "ordering" |
11:17.24 | Stanzilla | what ever :P |
11:17.29 | Fisker- | Stanzilla makes no sense ;_; |
11:17.37 | Stanzilla | Fisker-: your mum makes no sense :O |
11:17.41 | Camci | >_> |
11:17.43 | Camci | <_< |
11:18.24 | Fisker- | i'm making sense all over your mom |
11:19.13 | *** join/#wowace Iboong (n=user@77.87.207.194) |
11:19.38 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r16 addon/addon.lua: project revision test |
11:24.24 | *** join/#wowace Whitetooth_ (n=chatzill@118-169-204-65.dynamic.hinet.net) |
11:25.06 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
11:26.10 | *** join/#wowace charon (n=thomas@unaffiliated/charon) |
11:32.52 | *** join/#wowace Whitetooth_ (n=chatzill@118-169-202-71.dynamic.hinet.net) |
11:33.03 | *** join/#wowace Elsia (n=Elsia@212-183-54-199.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
11:35.02 | Bruners_ | kek, raid leader is a bm hunter without serpent swiftness, ferocious inspiration and beast within |
11:35.27 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
11:35.41 | Mikk | ... |
11:36.26 | *** join/#wowace Ghan (n=GhanIRC@ppp-93-104-112-81.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
11:40.21 | *** join/#wowace Mist_ (n=Mist@86-41-77-70.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) |
11:42.39 | *** join/#wowace Adirelle (n=adirelle@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
11:45.47 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
11:46.11 | *** join/#wowace Sliker_Hawk (i=SlikerHa@5acf5d49.bb.sky.com) |
11:47.34 | Repo | 10cleanminimap: 03Azxiana * r11 / (3 files in 2 directories): Fixed ability to hide minimap icon. |
11:47.35 | Repo | Added independent scaling for icons. |
11:49.04 | Trela | loves on Repo man. |
11:49.29 | *** join/#wowace spode (n=spode@90-229-150-87-no117.tbcn.telia.com) |
11:49.39 | Repo | 10cleanminimap: 03Azxiana 041.1 Release * r13 : Tagging as 1.1 Release. |
11:56.10 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
11:57.38 | *** join/#wowace dubf (n=thospr@gprs-ggsn6-nat.mobil.telenor.no) |
11:57.42 | *** join/#wowace sacarasc (i=sacarasc@cpc1-kemp3-0-0-cust978.lutn.cable.ntl.com) |
11:58.01 | Trela | Does any one know if Curse.com is purposely delayed updating files and images from WoWAce.com? |
11:58.21 | nevcairiel | its probably broken again |
11:59.23 | *** join/#wowace zarious (n=fridgid@cpe-71-64-9-146.ma.res.rr.com) |
11:59.38 | Trela | I know some times it takes a couple minutes, but I was not sure how the system actually worked. |
12:00.36 | Repo | 10fubar_factionsfu: 03Swix * r76 / (2 files in 2 directories): Added ruRU locale |
12:01.44 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r17 / (4 files in 2 directories): set some more defaults |
12:02.06 | *** join/#wowace dubf (n=thospr@gprs-ggsn6-nat.mobil.telenor.no) |
12:02.20 | Adirelle | to who had trouble with predownload : there is no issue when using a 3rd-party torrent client |
12:03.18 | [dRaCo] | and using one is faster anyway |
12:03.28 | Gnarfoz | not really, depending on your connection. |
12:03.49 | Adirelle | on a fast connection it is |
12:04.09 | Adirelle | the background download is that, "background", so it thruttle connection down |
12:04.27 | Fisker- | So they still haven't fixed a simple error? >:3 |
12:04.28 | Fisker- | gj etc. |
12:05.27 | *** join/#wowace zarious (n=fridgid@cpe-71-64-9-146.ma.res.rr.com) |
12:06.05 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
12:06.30 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
12:09.59 | *** join/#wowace Bibi (n=Bibi@AVelizy-151-1-96-154.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
12:10.05 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
12:14.24 | *** join/#wowace Whitetooth_ (n=chatzill@118-169-202-71.dynamic.hinet.net) |
12:16.06 | *** join/#wowace nekoh (n=nekoh@p4FD896DC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
12:16.47 | *** join/#wowace Whitetooth_ (n=chatzill@118-160-241-215.dynamic.hinet.net) |
12:16.50 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
12:18.50 | *** join/#wowace Atriace (n=omnizeta@188.118.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
12:21.49 | *** join/#wowace sacarasc (i=sacarasc@cpc1-kemp3-0-0-cust978.lutn.cable.ntl.com) |
12:23.37 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
12:23.47 | *** join/#wowace Megalon (n=starfox@d86-32-5-97.cust.tele2.at) |
12:26.08 | *** join/#wowace Hjalte (n=chatzill@62.242.38.50) |
12:26.19 | backbone87 | Ace options tables: can a text be applied to the "header"-type? (via name?) |
12:27.11 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
12:28.58 | SunTsu | Not that CurseClient is running for me at all, but: Is there no way to turn off toon and item information upload? |
12:29.16 | *** join/#wowace MoonWolf (n=MoonWolf@i209133.upc-i.chello.nl) |
12:29.16 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
12:29.38 | Fisker- | Can't you just uninstall the curse profiler? |
12:30.31 | SunTsu | Fisker-: As I said, I can't use it anyways, was just reading the Instructions out of curiosity |
12:31.24 | *** join/#wowace Pkekyo| (n=Pkekyo@062016163025.customer.alfanett.no) |
12:32.07 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: no, it seems to upload .wdb regardless. |
12:35.17 | *** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
12:36.53 | Fisker- | kills Gnarfoz |
12:37.01 | Bruners_ | backbone87: still nothing :S |
12:37.02 | Gnarfoz | dies |
12:37.32 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
12:37.58 | *** join/#wowace bien| (n=bien@pD9E6DEE6.dip.t-dialin.net) |
12:38.04 | SunTsu | watches with popcorn |
12:38.21 | *** join/#wowace p3lim (n=p3lim@212251216176.customer.cdi.no) |
12:38.27 | Zyndrome | spontanously explodes, for no reason. |
12:39.39 | *** join/#wowace Lysithea (i=Lyset@c-1e4ee455.017-172-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
12:39.45 | *** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
12:40.35 | ramoz | anyone got a link for the predownloader (part 2)? |
12:40.47 | *** join/#wowace Lyn (n=Lyn@Ld367.l.pppool.de) |
12:40.50 | nevcairiel | Launcher.exe in your wow dir? :) |
12:41.00 | ramoz | keeps stalling |
12:41.10 | ramoz | i meant the torrent :O |
12:41.34 | Gnarfoz | uhm the downloader .torrent is in your wow dir, too. |
12:41.50 | Zyndrome | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors |
12:41.51 | bien| | in the cache folder |
12:41.51 | Gnarfoz | also, http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ as usual =) |
12:41.52 | Zyndrome | kthxbai |
12:41.58 | ramoz | ah |
12:42.05 | ramoz | thanks Gnarfoz and bien |
12:42.48 | bien| | uhm...btw anyone here is using jwowupdater? |
12:42.57 | backbone87 | Bruners_: maybe curse is hanging around dunno, your project looks fine |
12:43.28 | Zhinjio | g'morning worthies |
12:43.33 | ramoz | bien|: i did until the move |
12:43.33 | SunTsu | bien|: I used to |
12:44.08 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r18 / (5 files in 3 directories): Put the WIM compatibility stuff into one place |
12:45.42 | *** join/#wowace Chompers (n=Chompers@cpc1-cove9-0-0-cust541.brhm.cable.ntl.com) |
12:45.48 | SunTsu | bien|: Was your question for statistic reasons only? ;) |
12:45.51 | bien| | so for now the jwowupdater is useless, since the move?! |
12:45.53 | bien| | no |
12:46.11 | backbone87 | question: can i display a tree group and tab group "parallel", e.g. if i click a node on the tree, i want to see a tabbed pane in the content area, but the node contains other subnodes |
12:46.18 | SunTsu | bien|: No, not at all. You can just use it to get the stuff from curse |
12:46.25 | bien| | how?! |
12:46.25 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 07beta * r95 / (3 files in 1 directory): RaidBuffStatus: |
12:46.26 | Repo | - Added talent report for Circle of Healing talent. |
12:46.44 | bien| | i dont find any ids for the addons... :( |
12:46.45 | SunTsu | bien|: Add all your addons as NonWoWAce Addons with curse's site id |
12:46.55 | ramoz | which is a pain in the ass |
12:46.57 | SunTsu | bien|: It's the project name now |
12:47.08 | SunTsu | ramoz: Yeah, but that was not the question |
12:47.48 | SunTsu | Could be better, right, rolfba is busy right now and will after his thesis start JWU2 |
12:47.54 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
12:48.02 | bien| | ah, okay, so i write the name: Ace3 and as id Ace3 ? |
12:48.08 | bien| | and add it? |
12:48.17 | ramoz | no |
12:48.22 | bien| | ._. |
12:48.26 | SunTsu | bien|: Just look up the project on curse and add it with the name from the url |
12:48.38 | ramoz | http://fambagge.dk/jwu/guide.html |
12:48.49 | SunTsu | .o0( And yeah, that's quite a hassle ) |
12:49.21 | SunTsu | ramoz: That's out of date, the id is the project name now |
12:49.28 | ramoz | ok |
12:50.02 | bien| | one mom i'll try it :) |
12:50.07 | SunTsu | http://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=238494&postcount=812 |
12:50.38 | Stanzilla | http://de.rofl.to/david-blaine-street-magic-part-2 < best |
12:50.40 | Stanzilla | haha |
12:51.35 | bien| | thank you SunTsu :) |
12:52.54 | SunTsu | bien|: you're welcome |
12:53.41 | *** join/#wowace sacarasc (i=sacarasc@cpc1-kemp3-0-0-cust978.lutn.cable.ntl.com) |
12:54.41 | bien| | and how do i delete an addon from the monitored page? |
12:54.55 | SunTsu | bien|: Just set the id/site to none |
12:55.29 | *** part/#wowace CrazyBenny_ (i=s_m@a02-0602a.kn.vutbr.cz) |
12:55.49 | SunTsu | I am currently thinking about a way to keep my addons up to date myself, but neither way looks nice anymore |
12:55.55 | Repo | 10mail-attachment-count: 03kunda * r27 / (2 files in 1 directory): MailAttachmentCount: Interface: 30000 |
12:56.04 | digmouse | mother shahraz down!!! |
12:56.14 | SunTsu | digmouse: congrats |
12:56.23 | digmouse | council tonight! |
12:56.27 | Repo | 10mail-attachment-count: 03kunda 04v1.2 * r28 : Tagging as v1.2 |
12:56.33 | *** join/#wowace CrazyBenny_ (n=s_m@a02-0602a.kn.vutbr.cz) |
12:57.17 | digmouse | she is sooooo easy |
12:57.22 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r19 modules/WIM.lua: Missing a WIM check |
12:57.24 | bien| | SunTsu: and the id for the addons from wowinterface? |
12:57.33 | bien| | gratz digmouse |
12:57.40 | digmouse | thanks guys |
12:57.46 | SunTsu | bien|: is the number in wowi's url |
12:58.06 | bien| | argh... its so simple -.- thanks anyway :) |
12:58.14 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
12:59.12 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04WoW3.0Beta * r96 : RaidBuffStatus: |
12:59.13 | Repo | - Delete so I can re-tag. |
12:59.20 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04WoW3.0Beta * r97 : RaidBuffStatus: |
12:59.21 | Repo | - Tagging new commit. |
13:01.37 | SunTsu | Hm, since the move the updater situation is a little bit sad |
13:02.05 | *** join/#wowace Vilkku (n=Vilkku@86-60-157-18-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) |
13:04.05 | *** join/#wowace Whitetooth_ (n=chatzill@118-169-198-45.dynamic.hinet.net) |
13:04.26 | Repo | 10skinner: 03Jncl 07master * b1.9038.0-2-g0b563d4 / (9 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
13:04.27 | Repo | 0b563d4: Skinner: Bugfix for AchievementUI GameTooltip StatusBar skinning |
13:04.28 | Repo | 2426319: Skinner: Skinned AchievmentUI, BarbershopUI, Calendar & FeedbackUI |
13:04.54 | Zyndrome | http://www.gametrailers.com/player/41216.html - robots, hatdiggers, schoolgirls, Peter Stormare alternating time |
13:05.00 | Zyndrome | GOTY |
13:05.39 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack- (n=Godzmack@85-220-59-213.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
13:05.55 | *** join/#wowace sacarasc (i=sacarasc@cpc1-kemp3-0-0-cust978.lutn.cable.ntl.com) |
13:07.54 | digmouse | so how is council difficulty comparing to mother? |
13:08.12 | nevcairiel | not that hard |
13:08.17 | nevcairiel | needs some coordination |
13:08.25 | nevcairiel | and people that can run out of AoE |
13:08.34 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
13:08.46 | Bruners_ | and mana regen |
13:08.48 | digmouse | the key is? |
13:08.53 | digmouse | a high hit mage tank? |
13:08.57 | digmouse | ppls able to run? |
13:09.22 | nevcairiel | mostly |
13:09.32 | nevcairiel | interrupt heals |
13:09.48 | Hjalte | Our shadow priests died constantly in the council fight because of wanting to finish their "difficult" rotations. |
13:09.48 | digmouse | taking a try on the trash now |
13:09.57 | digmouse | lol |
13:10.13 | Lukian | a) interrupting heals b) moving out of aoe c) quality healing and calling of aoe/poison |
13:10.32 | Zyndrome | and holy fire |
13:11.02 | digmouse | sounds not so hard |
13:11.16 | Gnarfoz | council is definitely quite a bird harder than sharaz. |
13:11.16 | Zyndrome | tell everyone to max their spell details, otherwise they'll be unable to see the AoE |
13:11.45 | digmouse | k |
13:11.51 | Lukian | Zyndrome, heh, I died to it once on the steps |
13:11.59 | Lukian | it didn't draw probably on that surface |
13:12.23 | digmouse | it's in the air |
13:12.42 | Zyndrome | consecration isn't |
13:12.56 | digmouse | the blizzard is |
13:13.10 | digmouse | firestorm and consecration is not hard |
13:13.11 | nevcairiel | flame burst isnt either |
13:13.51 | Lukian | the flame one draws on the ground |
13:13.53 | digmouse | should not be hard if had Hexlord exp |
13:13.59 | Lukian | blizzard is easy to dodge |
13:14.01 | digmouse | like kael? |
13:14.04 | Zyndrome | got caught between flamestrike, consecration and blizzard last night, that was fun... for 2 seconds |
13:14.10 | Zyndrome | what are the odds >_< |
13:14.10 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x573bccca.henqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
13:14.10 | Lukian | digmouse, yeah |
13:14.20 | digmouse | see, and that rogue? |
13:14.25 | Lukian | Zyndrome, I got double blizzard in a row ^_^ |
13:14.27 | Lukian | that was fun |
13:14.33 | nevcairiel | Zyndrome: there are always funny cases where you just die, flamestrike on you plus poison or something |
13:14.55 | digmouse | heard that he'll show himself a little before his vanish is over? |
13:14.59 | fewyn | morning #wowace |
13:15.07 | nevcairiel | digmouse: he does |
13:15.38 | Fisker- | i once got poison |
13:15.50 | Fisker- | and holy shock |
13:16.02 | Fisker- | Survived with like 50hp :P |
13:16.08 | Fisker- | divine shield = win |
13:16.59 | digmouse | how much time we have to respond between he shows himself and begin to attack people? |
13:18.31 | digmouse | wow that robot is so scary |
13:18.54 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
13:20.00 | Stanzilla | I loved letting people die on that trash |
13:20.14 | Stanzilla | "hey you got my t6 token, no shield for you!" |
13:20.33 | nevcairiel | lol |
13:25.39 | digmouse | so many trash |
13:27.12 | *** join/#wowace sacarasc_ (i=sacarasc@cpc1-kemp3-0-0-cust978.lutn.cable.ntl.com) |
13:28.16 | *** join/#wowace ag` (n=ag`@0103ds2-hl.0.fullrate.dk) |
13:29.13 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
13:31.30 | *** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
13:31.39 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
13:32.00 | *** join/#wowace Raegx (i=Raegx@cpe-74-74-156-254.rochester.res.rr.com) |
13:33.07 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack_ (n=Godzmack@85-220-59-213.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
13:33.49 | Cryect | <Gnarfoz> council is definitely quite a bird harder than sharaz. |
13:34.13 | Gnarfoz | thanks for quoting me randomly! |
13:34.15 | Gnarfoz | :) |
13:34.15 | Cryect | Man sharaz most not be much of anything after the bug fixes |
13:34.37 | Cryect | Well it wasn't random in the sense that Council was kinda almost a joke fight |
13:35.18 | Cryect | But mother was mainly hard due to bad game design |
13:35.43 | *** join/#wowace Yssaril (n=Yssaril@adsl-99-145-19-62.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
13:35.47 | sacarasc | never got that far in raiding... :( |
13:36.01 | Raegx | council is stressfull on healers if the raid doesn't stay out of the AOE = ( and god bless whoever is covering the poisons/divine wraths |
13:36.19 | Repo | 10closet-gnome_big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r45 / (2 files in 1 directory): Update to the latest CG. |
13:36.45 | Raegx | council is probably my least favorite encounter in bt |
13:37.32 | Cryect | I think mother was but thats because being a mindless damage soak isn't much fun! |
13:37.56 | Raegx | there are so many sharaz strats |
13:38.02 | Raegx | my guild didn't use any soaks |
13:38.21 | Stanzilla | we killed mother first try |
13:38.22 | Raegx | just 1 giant group and 1 holy priest standing alone to heal ppl as they run |
13:38.36 | Stanzilla | with a one camp tactic |
13:38.40 | Cryect | what the hell? |
13:38.48 | Cryect | they really changed the fight then |
13:38.59 | Cryect | hehe been a while since I've done BT so not surprised |
13:39.06 | Fisker- | Council is annoying when you're unlucky with lag + mage/druid tank |
13:39.07 | Fisker- | >:3 |
13:39.13 | Cryect | that didn't work too well on the original Sharaz |
13:39.14 | Stanzilla | we killed it after the first nerf |
13:39.18 | Raegx | ? no. There are certain places where you can stand that has a very low probability of having ports on top of the raid |
13:39.23 | Stanzilla | sometime last year |
13:39.28 | digmouse | facing them now |
13:39.33 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
13:39.41 | Raegx | what was her nerf? |
13:39.44 | Raegx | and when |
13:39.46 | Cryect | Raegx mother's cleave would instantly gib most people |
13:39.54 | Raegx | isn't that a shared cleave |
13:39.57 | Cryect | A ton of stuff was changed like a year ago |
13:39.58 | Raegx | we just had 3 tanks on her |
13:40.07 | Cryect | well that was the damage soak I was talking about |
13:40.20 | Cryect | I thought you were saying you had everyone grouped on the 1 tank |
13:40.24 | Raegx | ah I misunderstood. I'm a healer so fight context is different |
13:40.36 | Raegx | dunno I haven't done sharaz in a while now |
13:40.43 | Raegx | we finished her off long ago |
13:40.50 | Raegx | we = my guild |
13:41.07 | Cryect | Some of the changes were like making it so your tanks will never be teleported |
13:41.23 | Cryect | oh changes so you don't get teleported to locations you get stuck and some various tuning issues |
13:41.49 | Cryect | oh plus the changing of how her magic shield works |
13:42.02 | Raegx | ah, nope none of those problems. My guild was late to going to bt/hyjal |
13:42.18 | Cryect | I knew it was supposed to be a ton easier based on the time it took guilds to kill her taking a few weeks due to farming for shadow resist to a night or two |
13:42.23 | Raegx | but we did it pre-attunement nerfs |
13:42.29 | Raegx | so we did kael and vashj |
13:43.10 | Raegx | sharaz we did in 1 night. We had all raiders in SR before we even stepped in |
13:43.26 | Stanzilla | Cyrez: it was piss easy with max resi gear |
13:43.26 | Cryect | but council was night or two boss fight at the time at most so going from a boss that takes 2 weeks of farming Shadow Resist to a boss that takes 2 days tops |
13:43.46 | Stanzilla | we killed the last 3 bosses in BT in one ID |
13:44.05 | Cryect | Yeah but you shouldn't have had max resistance when you first got to Mother O_o |
13:44.07 | Repo | 10closet-gnome_tooltip: 03Rabbit * r44 ClosetGnome_Tooltip.toc: Spelling mistake in the TOC. |
13:44.08 | Raegx | if you are talking about the first 3 it doesn't matter |
13:44.15 | digmouse | crytect we do |
13:44.23 | Stanzilla | last 3 :p |
13:44.28 | Stanzilla | mother council illidan |
13:44.34 | digmouse | all 300+-350+ buffed except MT |
13:44.35 | Raegx | hah gratz then! |
13:44.39 | Stanzilla | thx :p |
13:44.53 | Cryect | when you first got to mother? |
13:44.53 | Raegx | the only accolaid I can claim is we did Illidan in 1 night |
13:45.04 | Cryect | did they increase the droprate of hearts of shadows? |
13:45.13 | Raegx | hearts of darkness |
13:45.26 | Cryect | heh shows you how long it has been since I've been raiding ^_^ |
13:45.32 | *** join/#wowace Inc` (n=mgast@pool-71-252-242-182.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) |
13:45.55 | Cryect | was kinda boring because we had to farm the trash before mother for couple weeks to almost max out the raids shadow resistance |
13:46.21 | Cryect | luckily was easy to farm with only 10-15 people |
13:46.28 | Raegx | no hyjal hearts? |
13:46.35 | Stanzilla | we bought hearts if I remember correctly |
13:46.38 | Stanzilla | from other raids |
13:46.49 | Cryect | hyjal didn't drop hearts |
13:46.57 | Stanzilla | it always did O.o |
13:46.57 | Raegx | sucks =p |
13:47.14 | Raegx | well stanzilla proposes a historical challenge! |
13:47.27 | Cryect | and we couldn't buy hearts since we were the only guild at that point |
13:47.51 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
13:47.59 | Stanzilla | we had to buy it from horde raids cause they were faster :P |
13:48.13 | Cryect | horde guilds weren't even in BT at the time :( |
13:48.20 | Stanzilla | lol^^ |
13:49.47 | *** join/#wowace Mars85 (n=Mars85@p50832739.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
13:50.03 | Bruners_ | we did trash in bt, two bosses in hyjal, trash in bt ++ |
13:51.36 | Cryect | Stanzilla, but yeah I don't think hearts dropped in hyjal early on (absolutely no loot dropped in Hyjal except off bosses). If you check the probability of hearts dropping off mobs its really low compared to BT mobs showing it was prolly added later |
13:52.06 | Stanzilla | hum |
13:53.29 | Matrix110 | it was |
13:53.33 | Cryect | anyways it sucked hearts and they were a pointless timesink to slow early guilds down :-p |
13:53.35 | Matrix110 | Trash didnt drop gems/hod in the start |
13:54.10 | Matrix110 | Cryect it was ok imho |
13:54.17 | Matrix110 | not to ridiculous but not to heavy |
13:54.41 | *** join/#wowace Adirelle (n=adirelle@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
13:54.44 | Cryect | I hate farming of any sort |
13:55.20 | digmouse | how far is their aggro distance? |
13:55.20 | Matrix110 | HoD wasnt much farming though |
13:55.40 | digmouse | the mage tank needs to spec fire? |
13:55.42 | Cryect | I seemed to recall it was like 2 weeks of farming mother trash every night |
13:55.48 | Cryect | maybe it was only a week or so |
13:55.52 | Matrix110 | digmouse where? |
13:55.59 | Bruners_ | was that for us atleast |
13:56.01 | digmouse | matrix110: council |
13:56.05 | Matrix110 | erm no |
13:56.07 | Cryect | been a year though so who knows how far I'm off |
13:56.08 | Matrix110 | can be any spec |
13:56.09 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
13:56.22 | Matrix110 | Frost being the best |
13:56.41 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
13:56.52 | Matrix110 | and you need frost on mages for Illidan later anyway |
13:57.02 | digmouse | k |
13:57.12 | Matrix110 | (going there with 2+ mages being fire is a really really slow P2 and gets kinda mana intensive) |
13:59.32 | Repo | 10yata: 03Tornhoof 07wotlk * r39 / (5 files in 1 directory): - Support for hiding buttons |
13:59.56 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
14:00.27 | vhaarr | they are removing the Riding Crop in 3.0, right? |
14:00.29 | Hjalte | I was just in heroic mechanar with the worlds worst tank :( And of course, he couldn't see it himself. Pulling 3 humanoids and a robot is totally normal of course, and then he blamed me for not being able to heal it, when I was killed from aggro of the robot. |
14:00.33 | vhaarr | and making it an enchant of sorts |
14:01.05 | nevcairiel | currently they are only removing it |
14:01.09 | nevcairiel | replacement is not in yet |
14:01.09 | vhaarr | right |
14:01.21 | vhaarr | well then I won't bother converting CG_Mount |
14:01.21 | nevcairiel | or actually, i think you keep it, and it goes defunct at 71 |
14:01.24 | vhaarr | aha |
14:01.26 | vhaarr | grr |
14:01.51 | digmouse | a wipe |
14:02.03 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
14:02.13 | digmouse | going to Hyjal instead |
14:03.14 | *** join/#wowace Elsia_ (n=Elsia@212-183-56-234.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
14:03.19 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: it's still a trinket for me on beta |
14:03.26 | nevcairiel | yeah |
14:03.31 | nevcairiel | but it doesnt work above lvl 70 |
14:03.34 | nevcairiel | so a blue post said |
14:03.38 | Stanzilla | nice... |
14:03.41 | *** join/#wowace nekoh (n=nekoh@p4FD8ACF1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
14:03.44 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
14:03.52 | Stanzilla | I wonder what's on those cds they already ship >.< |
14:04.01 | Stanzilla | it's not really final what they do there |
14:04.44 | nevcairiel | graphics and sound |
14:04.52 | nevcairiel | the big content |
14:04.57 | nevcairiel | patches will always happen |
14:05.04 | SunTsu | Stanzilla: Having it as an enchant wouldn't really work since mounts became spells. How would I enchant a spell? |
14:05.35 | vhaarr | SunTsu: your old mounts are items in your inventory before they become spells |
14:05.44 | Stanzilla | yes but why do the trinkets break when you are above lvl70? |
14:05.48 | vhaarr | they could just continue that, awarding them as items that you use to train the spell |
14:05.53 | vhaarr | and you could apply the enchant to that item |
14:06.10 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: because they want to do something new, what do i know, blue said that |
14:06.14 | Stanzilla | the funny thing is, those mount items stayed in my inventory when I learned them on beta |
14:06.18 | Stanzilla | I hope that is a bug, too |
14:06.20 | nevcairiel | that was a bug |
14:06.22 | nevcairiel | was fixed already |
14:06.26 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
14:06.28 | Stanzilla | k |
14:07.01 | SunTsu | vhaarr: Yeah, but that would really have spell ids explode or am I mistaken at that? |
14:07.06 | Stanzilla | they should make it like the diablo2 charms |
14:07.13 | Stanzilla | keep in inventory and it works |
14:07.30 | vhaarr | SunTsu: there are already tons, 200 more don't matter |
14:07.49 | *** join/#wowace Vilkku (n=Vilkku@86-60-157-18-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) |
14:08.00 | nevcairiel | personally, i would rather have something that increases speed for all mounts |
14:08.01 | nevcairiel | not one <.< |
14:08.05 | vhaarr | indeed |
14:08.30 | vhaarr | still, this would work, and it would also ensure leatherworkers employment for the coming months :p |
14:08.30 | Stanzilla | yeah but that would be the case for that diablo2-ish stuff |
14:09.02 | nevcairiel | i bet it will end up as a minor glyph |
14:09.02 | Stanzilla | keep in inventory and all mount speeds go up by 10% |
14:09.32 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: That would be something I like |
14:09.52 | vhaarr | not me, minor glyphs are supposed to be gimmicks, +10% mount speed is an absolute necessity |
14:11.11 | *** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
14:11.30 | *** join/#wowace Whietooth (n=Whitetoo@218-162-85-105.dynamic.hinet.net) |
14:11.46 | Repo | 10yata: 03Tornhoof 04wotlk-beta-0.4 * r40 : - Tagged as 0.4 |
14:13.58 | bien| | mh...i got a question again... |
14:14.27 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
14:14.34 | bien| | is it poossible to force jwowupdater to update the addons with the latest betas from curse? |
14:15.22 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
14:17.24 | *** join/#wowace Vilkku (n=Vilkku@86-60-157-18-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) |
14:19.00 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
14:19.40 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
14:22.00 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
14:22.10 | Repo | 10statlogiclib: 03Whitetooth * r185 StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: (Message trimmed by 28 lines) |
14:22.11 | Repo | StatLogicLib: Talent data updated to build 9061 |
14:22.12 | Repo | - Warlock: Updated Talent: Metamorphosis - Reduces chance to be crit, no longer increases AP |
14:22.14 | Repo | - Warlock: Updated Buff: Fel Armor - no longer gives mp5 from spi in 5sr |
14:22.18 | Repo | - Rogue: Removed Talent: Vitality |
14:23.56 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
14:24.03 | *** join/#wowace selckin (n=selckin@unaffiliated/axxo) |
14:24.36 | Hjalte | bien|: I don't think jwu supports beta or alpha releases. You'll have to use Curse Client for that, once it is working. |
14:25.53 | *** join/#wowace _neuron_ (n=x@85.252.65.217) |
14:26.03 | bien| | damn :( |
14:26.08 | SunTsu | .o0( As I said, updater situatiuon is sad, currently ) |
14:26.24 | bien| | yeah |
14:28.15 | *** join/#wowace charon (n=thomas@unaffiliated/charon) |
14:32.04 | bien| | i hope the curse updater is working soon... ._. |
14:32.36 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
14:33.15 | SunTsu | I can't use it anyway. And would not use it if I can't configure it not to send data to curse |
14:33.36 | nevcairiel | hands out tinfoil hats |
14:33.44 | SunTsu | So I am out of working updaters |
14:33.46 | selckin | and it wants you to be a premuim curse nub to auto update |
14:33.50 | selckin | so its out |
14:34.03 | Hjalte | selckin: How many addon updates do you have each day anyway? |
14:34.04 | fewyn | bien| the CC is working |
14:34.08 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: I at least want the choice |
14:34.15 | fewyn | i'm using it right this second to update my addons |
14:34.18 | fewyn | works perfectly fine |
14:34.19 | *** join/#wowace nekoh_ (n=nekoh@p4FD8BB9F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
14:34.26 | selckin | Hjalte: the point is that is why you use the client, i can just do it off the websites otherwise |
14:34.31 | SunTsu | fewyn: Not under Wine/FreeBSD |
14:34.40 | fewyn | GG Wine is not supported |
14:34.52 | fewyn | which is obvious |
14:34.59 | Hjalte | selckin: It's still much easier than doing it on the internet, having the client check for updates and unzipping it into your folders. |
14:35.15 | selckin | it's still doing all kinds of things behind your back |
14:35.26 | selckin | it has lost my trust |
14:36.04 | bien| | fewyn: but not for beta releases |
14:36.05 | Trela | tries to figure out why Curse.com is not updating and grrs. |
14:36.24 | SunTsu | Even if it was working, does it show what it is about to update, what it has updated, does it show change logs and all that stuff? |
14:36.25 | fewyn | bien| hmmm... no it seems to be downloading the latest beta releases in .14 |
14:36.38 | fewyn | doesn't show changelogs but it does the others |
14:36.49 | nevcairiel | .14 supports beta releases now |
14:36.52 | Hjalte | There is an activity log in the Curse Client. |
14:36.53 | nevcairiel | but its a pre-release |
14:37.00 | nevcairiel | it is supposed to be released on monday |
14:37.16 | bien| | so i cant download .14 ? |
14:37.23 | fewyn | you can if you can find the link.... |
14:37.26 | nevcairiel | there is a link to the prerelease somewhere |
14:37.31 | fewyn | sec i'll pull it up |
14:37.36 | bien| | nice... oO |
14:38.02 | Hjalte | It's here: http://static.curseforge.net/client/CurseSetup-2.0.0.14.exe |
14:38.08 | fewyn | http://static.curseforge.net/client/CurseSetup-2.0.0.14.exe |
14:38.19 | Hjalte | :) |
14:38.34 | SunTsu | Does ist do ext/no-ext by now? |
14:38.41 | nevcairiel | no |
14:38.42 | bien| | i'll try it :) |
14:38.42 | *** join/#wowace Mars85 (n=Mars85@p50832739.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
14:38.52 | Chompers | oooh, new version |
14:38.53 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
14:38.54 | Hjalte | SunTsu: They're working on implementing it |
14:38.57 | nevcairiel | no-ext is low on the priority list to do |
14:39.16 | nevcairiel | the general updating is more important :P |
14:39.44 | SunTsu | All in all it looks too much like not ready |
14:40.03 | Mars85 | With the LoadOnDemand change Blizzard stated that they dislike disembedded :( :P |
14:40.10 | *** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
14:40.43 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: Will there be an option to turn off sending data to curse? |
14:40.51 | nevcairiel | probably not |
14:41.01 | nevcairiel | but i dont work for curse nor on the updater |
14:41.03 | nevcairiel | so no idea :P |
14:41.10 | Trela | SunTsu: You can block the data with firewall settings. |
14:41.12 | Arrowmaster | Mars85: they did not |
14:41.19 | selckin | Trela: yeah, just like spyware! |
14:41.27 | SunTsu | Trela: Only if I wnat it to cease working as a whole |
14:41.29 | Trela | selckin: Yeah, I know! |
14:41.32 | Chompers | so where's the changelog for .14? |
14:41.37 | SunTsu | want even |
14:41.50 | [SW]Dodge | Chompers: no changelog yet .14 is still test release |
14:41.51 | nevcairiel | Chompers: as mentioned before, its a pre-release, it doesnt have a complete changelog yet :P |
14:41.58 | Chompers | oh okay |
14:42.04 | Trela | SunTsu: You can stop it from sending by only blocking hardwareservice.curse.com and not addonservice.curse.com. |
14:42.28 | Hjalte | This is a nice post for everyone to read if you're interested in the Curse Client and what it might become: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=240833#post240833 |
14:42.46 | SunTsu | Trela: As long as they don't change that |
14:43.00 | Trela | If they do, I will find how to update and block it. :P |
14:43.27 | *** join/#wowace EthanCentaurai (n=EthanCen@78.149.181.45) |
14:43.30 | SunTsu | Trela: And If there won't be an option to turn off sending most likely it will be changed so it can't differentiated |
14:43.37 | selckin | anything that requires that does not deserv your trust |
14:43.42 | Chompers | the disembedded libary this was pretty bad for me first time i used the client |
14:43.55 | Chompers | i imagine someone new to addons wouldnt have that problem though |
14:43.58 | Stanzilla | [2008/10/11 16:42:31-2562-x1]: AceTab-2.0-40685 (Ace2):193: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value < nice |
14:44.04 | Stanzilla | I'm good at finding old errors |
14:44.08 | Chompers | just the people who used disembedded libs to begin with |
14:44.09 | Trela | Depending on how sophisticated your firewall is you will be able to block it still. |
14:44.15 | nevcairiel | that error has been around for ever Stanzilla =P |
14:44.26 | Stanzilla | I know |
14:44.29 | Arrowmaster | solution, dont use AceTab-2.0 |
14:44.40 | Stanzilla | I'm not looking for a fix :P |
14:44.42 | Arrowmaster | perty sure thats easy to do |
14:44.45 | nevcairiel | Chompers: meh, using disembed always leaves you somewhat on your own to manage your shit :P |
14:45.05 | bien| | argh, now i know, why i dont like the curse updater... :/ |
14:45.23 | Chompers | true nev |
14:45.40 | Chompers | i would have thought it would save on bandwidth costs though |
14:45.57 | SunTsu | Trela: My firewall is as sophisticated as I want it, but if all runs over the same socket/connection there will be no mingling in it |
14:46.00 | Chompers | packing up and sending all those libs again and again, seems a waste |
14:46.34 | Tornhoof | suntsu, if they connect to a different ipendpoint (e.g. addons*.*) they will use a different socket |
14:46.46 | Trela | SunTsu: CC only downloads information, but only uploads when sending hardware information. Assuming you can block uploads only, you should be able to block it. |
14:46.50 | SunTsu | Tornhoof: Yeah, _if_, that's the point |
14:46.56 | *** join/#wowace Sunwind (n=Paradox@cpc1-brmb6-0-0-cust544.bagu.cable.ntl.com) |
14:47.11 | SunTsu | Trela: So how does it request anything if it can't send? |
14:47.20 | Tornhoof | trela that won't work |
14:47.40 | Tornhoof | btw who wrote that it sends hw info? |
14:47.41 | SunTsu | Trela: You at least need something like GET / HTTP/1.1 or such |
14:48.39 | Trela | I noted it a few days ago that it does. It uploads a small data file to hardwareservice.curse.com. |
14:48.47 | SunTsu | Tornhoof: It sends item information and toon information, and I really want an option to turn it off and on. |
14:48.59 | Tornhoof | yeh |
14:49.16 | Tornhoof | that option is mandatory |
14:49.20 | SunTsu | .o0( but why would I care, I can't use it at all, so it can be the same to me ) |
14:49.21 | Arrowmaster | SunTsu: disable the addon in game, and delete all the saved vars for it |
14:49.41 | SunTsu | Arrowmaster: Gnarfoz said it uploaded .wdb anyway |
14:49.46 | Trela | Stopping the AddOn itself will prevent game client information. |
14:49.59 | Arrowmaster | you really care about .wdb? |
14:50.13 | Trela | The WDB just has item information. *Shrugs* |
14:50.32 | Zeksie | there's no OnValueChanged equivelant for FontStrings is there? |
14:50.33 | Arrowmaster | well item spell quest etc |
14:50.38 | SunTsu | Arrowmaster: I do care about everything that goes from me to a site which I do not know and therefore not trust to full extent |
14:50.39 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack- (n=Godzmack@85-220-59-213.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
14:51.01 | Zeksie | nm. will hook settext. |
14:51.02 | SunTsu | Arrowmaster: And as I said, I want the option to turn it off |
14:51.19 | SunTsu | If I use it should be mine to decide |
14:51.45 | SunTsu | That, too, has to do with trust, which is a mutual thing |
14:52.54 | Trela | Well, this is sort of odd. I submitted, had approved, and uploaded my new CleanMinimap. http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/cleanminimap.aspx |
14:53.06 | Trela | Then I find this older one with the same name, but different URL. http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/clean-minimap.aspx |
14:54.22 | Trela | Updated some time ago, but technically a different AddOn. Thinking about how to resolve it. |
14:56.17 | Hjalte | Trela: I'd consider renaming my addon if the other addon is older. |
14:56.48 | Trela | Yeah, I know what you mean. I am trying to think of something, but I am not sure I can rename the project. :P |
14:57.25 | *** join/#wowace EthanCentaurai (n=EthanCen@78.149.181.45) |
14:58.06 | *** join/#wowace stew_a (n=Stewart@unafilliated/stewa/x-008753) |
14:58.27 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x573bccca.henqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
14:59.34 | bien| | I HATE THIS UPDATER... :/ |
14:59.40 | stew_a | ok this is wierd, we;re raiding naxx and someone makes an ML error, so they page a GM to fix it. we just come to gluth and the GM appears before us disguised as a slime. he does the change, then joins our raid and helps us fight gluth xD |
15:00.00 | Cheads | nice =) |
15:00.01 | Arrowmaster | lol |
15:00.14 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack_ (n=Godzmack@85-220-59-213.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
15:00.28 | Arrowmaster | you got a gm for a ML error on beta? thats even more amazing |
15:00.31 | stew_a | and we wipe >.< |
15:00.42 | stew_a | beta? nono we're on retail |
15:00.44 | Belazor | bien|: In Soviet Curse, updater hates you! |
15:01.07 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
15:01.23 | Zyndrome | http://www.ripten.com/2008/10/10/wow-whore-has-36-accounts-raids-by-himself/ |
15:01.30 | Zyndrome | .............................. |
15:02.13 | Zyndrome | guess he won the lottery |
15:03.33 | bien| | Belazor: nah...this curse updater is killing my addons...the second time... :/ |
15:03.33 | Mars85 | o_O |
15:04.17 | EthanCentaurai | can I be a nit-picking asshole and ask someone to capitalize the E and the C in my name on WowAce? so it's EthanCentaurai rather than ethancentaurai... :) |
15:06.00 | Arrowmaster | EthanCentaurai: youll have to talk to kaelten |
15:06.18 | Gnarfoz | don't bet on anything happening though ;) |
15:06.35 | EthanCentaurai | hehe |
15:06.57 | EthanCentaurai | it doesn't matter really, I just want it to be uniform with the rest of CurseForge :) |
15:07.00 | stew_a | GM has hung around for a second try :-) |
15:07.43 | stew_a | and we kill gluth in under a minute |
15:08.07 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: I made some tries with the concept of libraryloader |
15:09.12 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
15:09.31 | stew_a | GM ninjad some of our loot |
15:10.15 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
15:10.37 | Arrowmaster | lol? |
15:11.49 | EthanCentaurai | stew_a: awesome! grats! screenshots plz :) |
15:11.55 | stew_a | of...? |
15:12.12 | EthanCentaurai | your raid |
15:12.20 | EthanCentaurai | :P |
15:12.21 | stew_a | hold on a sec, thaddius fight |
15:16.26 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
15:16.54 | bien| | can anyone help me with pitbull? |
15:17.10 | stew_a | ok thaddius daed give me a minute |
15:17.22 | bien| | and the following error message: LibDogTag-3.0.90203: Error with code "[Status or (if HP(known=true) then\ |
15:17.22 | bien| | <PROTECTED> |
15:17.22 | bien| | else\ |
15:17.22 | bien| | <PROTECTED> |
15:17.22 | bien| | end)]" (Base;Unit). ...itBull\libs\LibDogTag-Unit-3.0\Categories\Health.lua line 38: |
15:17.23 | bien| | <PROTECTED> |
15:17.32 | Zyndrome | I suggest you get a dachshound |
15:17.34 | Zyndrome | ~rimshot |
15:17.35 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
15:18.06 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
15:18.30 | Stanzilla | bien|: update with the latest alpha zip |
15:19.15 | Stanzilla | or beta |
15:20.53 | bien| | pitbull or the library? |
15:21.08 | Stanzilla | the lib if you run disembedded |
15:22.00 | stew_a | EthanCentaurai: http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot101108155223ex3.jpg |
15:24.00 | JensRex | Guys... have I been peering all day? |
15:24.42 | SunTsu | JensRex: Sort of |
15:24.51 | Trela | Just says Remote Closed the Connection to us. |
15:25.02 | JensRex | Every 10 minutes or so? |
15:25.10 | SunTsu | JensRex: Yeah |
15:25.13 | Arrowmaster | something like that |
15:25.19 | JensRex | Sorry for spamming like that. |
15:25.30 | JensRex | I changed ISP and their stupid DLink router is a flaming bag of shit. |
15:25.49 | Arrowmaster | dont worry, you cant be as bad as Shirik|zZz |
15:25.53 | JensRex | All I saw here was mIRC hanging after MOTD. |
15:26.14 | EthanCentaurai | thanks stew :) |
15:26.16 | JensRex | Now I hooked up an old Motorola cable modem and a WRT54G, and all seems to be working now. |
15:26.22 | Repo | 10auratochat: 03Rabbit * r29 embeds.xml: Fix embeds.xml. |
15:26.41 | Mars85 | wrt54g(l) is best :) |
15:26.44 | bien| | Stanzilla: that doesnt help |
15:26.51 | JensRex | Indeed. |
15:26.57 | Repo | 10error-monster: 03Rabbit * r76 / (9 files in 1 directory): Convert to Ace3, simplified a great deal. |
15:27.09 | Raegx | so wahts w/ wowmatrix? Any good? |
15:27.18 | Arrowmaster | wrt54gl with tomato = <3 |
15:27.19 | Raegx | what* |
15:27.21 | JensRex | I think DLink has some sort of paranoid "firewall" feature. |
15:27.21 | Arrowmaster | Raegx: no |
15:27.30 | stew_a | does anyone know if the patch has been announced for this tuesday/wednesday yet or..? |
15:27.32 | Raegx | @arrow anything specific? |
15:27.35 | JensRex | And dislikes Freenode because of open proxy checks. |
15:27.49 | Arrowmaster | Raegx: its evil |
15:27.58 | Arrowmaster | and supports gold sellers |
15:28.10 | JensRex | It also randomly decided to drop my IMAP and FTP connections, for no good reason. |
15:28.26 | Raegx | hmmm so besides the gold selling bit, anything else |
15:28.47 | Arrowmaster | it violates the ToC of curse and wowinterface |
15:28.57 | Arrowmaster | ToU |
15:28.58 | Arrowmaster | whatever |
15:29.37 | Arrowmaster | and disrespects authors rights |
15:29.40 | nevcairiel | its also illegal |
15:29.43 | nevcairiel | its bandwidth theft |
15:29.52 | nevcairiel | which is considered a crime, at least here |
15:30.38 | Arrowmaster | and this douche still hasnt replied to me http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10871018107&sid=1&pageNo=8#146 |
15:35.18 | Repo | 10ads: 03Zikko * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): working prototype of the GUI. Still need to change to templates in ADS.xml |
15:39.27 | *** join/#wowace Odlaw (n=ozzy@c-98-245-75-224.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
15:39.35 | EthanCentaurai | heh... getting this error: Bartender4-4.1.0-Alpha\Bar.lua:91: CreateFrame(): Couldn't find inherited node "SecureHandlerStateTemplate" on login on live servers... I guess it my installed version of BT4 suddenly became beta only overnight? :S |
15:39.43 | *** join/#wowace Whietooth (n=Whitetoo@218-162-85-105.dynamic.hinet.net) |
15:40.20 | nevcairiel | EthanCentaurai: usng curse client set to install beta? |
15:40.22 | nevcairiel | then it did :p |
15:40.38 | EthanCentaurai | I did |
15:40.55 | EthanCentaurai | manually downloads a release version from AceForge. |
15:42.25 | *** join/#wowace waallen (i=wallen@78.134.22.199) |
15:43.08 | EthanCentaurai | notice the files tagged as alpha are flagged as 2.4 compatiable :) |
15:43.20 | Bruners_ | any of you that is a admin/mod type on curseforge? |
15:45.39 | Arrowmaster | yes |
15:46.06 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
15:46.46 | SunTsu | OK, I surrender, I switch to embedded and get my addons via svn/git |
15:47.56 | EthanCentaurai | lol now I'm getting "## X-LoadOn-Hooks: ToggleFrame (ToggleFrame): not a function:\nAddonLoader-2.0\\AddonLoader.lua:129" on login... no other debug code, I guess it's tekAbility tho |
15:48.21 | *** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
15:48.31 | Bruners_ | Arrowmaster: could you give me some tips on why my project wont get published ? |
15:49.02 | Arrowmaster | syndication may be broken again |
15:49.34 | nevcairiel | EthanCentaurai: could be Mapster, too |
15:50.54 | EthanCentaurai | nevcairiel, it is! how strange... CC didn't touch Mapster O_o |
15:51.09 | Bruners_ | Arrowmaster: could you check and see if i have done everything correct here ? |
15:51.21 | Arrowmaster | Bruners_: is there a beta or release file? |
15:51.24 | EthanCentaurai | gives Nev some cookies. |
15:51.27 | Bruners_ | Arrowmaster: release |
15:51.37 | Arrowmaster | Bruners_: then everything should be correct |
15:52.42 | *** join/#wowace Sirow (n=Sirow001@p57A4CB3A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
15:53.09 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
15:53.53 | *** join/#wowace Worf (n=worf@84-119-54-39.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
15:54.37 | *** join/#wowace Whietooth (n=Whitetoo@218-162-85-105.dynamic.hinet.net) |
15:58.03 | *** join/#wowace Aeyan (n=fake@cpe-071-076-230-073.triad.res.rr.com) |
16:00.41 | *** join/#wowace Ethan (n=EthanCen@78.149.181.45) |
16:03.19 | Tornhoof | nevcairiel is there any reason that your bt4 4.1.0-WotLK-Beta2 version has no optional dependencies for libdatabroker in the toc? |
16:03.34 | nevcairiel | LibDatabroker has no standalone library |
16:04.57 | Tornhoof | ah ok |
16:07.07 | Tornhoof | do you happen know the proper .pkgmeta entry for libdatabroker? |
16:07.49 | [SW]Dodge | why does bt4 need databroker? :) |
16:07.56 | Gnarfoz | launcher |
16:08.02 | nevcairiel | yeah a launcher icon |
16:08.05 | nevcairiel | for the config |
16:08.08 | [SW]Dodge | ah ok |
16:08.25 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't need it, I guess? but who the fuck wants 500 addons because for every addon you have the addon, its config addon, its LDB addon, its ... the list goes on :D |
16:09.46 | *** join/#wowace Industrial (n=Industri@194.145.194.227) |
16:09.58 | nevcairiel | if you delete LDB from the dir it won't create a button |
16:10.07 | nevcairiel | but huh |
16:10.10 | *** join/#wowace Whietooth (n=Whitetoo@218-162-85-105.dynamic.hinet.net) |
16:10.13 | nevcairiel | LDB itself is like 30 lines |
16:10.19 | nevcairiel | and the launcher maybe 10 |
16:14.04 | *** join/#wowace Azurewrath (n=Azurewra@16.106.113.82.net.de.o2.com) |
16:16.46 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack- (n=Godzmack@85-220-59-213.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
16:20.14 | *** join/#wowace Whietooth (n=Whitetoo@218-162-85-105.dynamic.hinet.net) |
16:24.00 | *** join/#wowace Obelixprime (n=Obelixpr@CPE0018f86c695d-CM0011aea76396.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
16:25.52 | Arrowmaster | i almost feel bad |
16:26.46 | Arrowmaster | downloading at 820+ kB/s (maxing my downstream) from a torrent thats got a sub 150 kB/s average swarm speed |
16:26.57 | Arrowmaster | almost |
16:29.18 | Repo | 10manaperc: 03phyber 07master * v1.0-2-gd260c78 ManaPerc.lua: [+1 commit] Druid power bars suck. |
16:31.51 | *** join/#wowace Whietooth (n=Whitetoo@218-162-85-105.dynamic.hinet.net) |
16:33.52 | *** join/#wowace Adirelle (n=adirelle@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
16:34.06 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
16:35.37 | Adirelle | hrm, shouldn't inflight and inflight_load be merged ? |
16:36.14 | Arrowmaster | maybe |
16:37.04 | Arrowmaster | although its more of adding the inflight_load stuff to the inflight repo then deleting the inflight_load project than truely merging |
16:37.14 | Arrowmaster | totalpackage will probably have to do it |
16:37.36 | Adirelle | Arrowmaster: right |
16:38.05 | Adirelle | ATM the InFlight addon itself is just not usable without InFlight_Load |
16:38.22 | Adirelle | s/usable/loadable/ |
16:40.17 | Repo | 10yata: 03Tornhoof 07wotlk * r41 / (4 files in 1 directory): - Added LDB support |
16:40.46 | Adirelle | wow, I shouldn't have take a look at InFlight_Load, now my brain is screwed |
16:41.01 | Cyrez | kicks Repo |
16:41.12 | Cyrez | New bot? o_0 |
16:41.17 | Arrowmaster | Cyrez: yes |
16:41.42 | Arrowmaster | Adirelle: yeah i know, totalpackage wrote some decent stuff that just worked but its fucking ugly |
16:41.56 | *** join/#wowace Lysithea (i=Lyset@c-1e4ee455.017-172-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
16:42.09 | *** join/#wowace Whietooth (n=Whitetoo@218-162-85-105.dynamic.hinet.net) |
16:42.24 | *** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
16:42.58 | Adirelle | Arrowmaster: I'm quite that works, but I don't really see the point of having both addon in that particular case |
16:43.04 | Cyrez | If whoever runs it can get it in #wowace-cia as well, I can add it to the access list. |
16:43.31 | Arrowmaster | Cyrez: dont think it will happen, its already in #WoWUIDev-commits |
16:43.42 | Cyrez | :( |
16:43.51 | Arrowmaster | and its kinda buggy sometimes, and floods itself off the network |
16:44.01 | Cyrez | Ouch. |
16:44.14 | Arrowmaster | yeah more channels would just make that worse |
16:44.44 | Cyrez | I suppose I could write another relay script. |
16:45.34 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r90 / (4 files in 4 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
16:45.35 | Repo | - LibSpecialEvents fixes for updating |
16:45.40 | Arrowmaster | why though when we have #WowUIDev-commits? |
16:45.55 | Cyrez | Cuz people still idle in my channel, lol. |
16:45.58 | Arrowmaster | hmm freenode doesnt support CPRIVMSG it seems |
16:46.10 | Arrowmaster | i only idle there because it still exists |
16:46.17 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander 042.0.91-release * r91 : Tagging as 2.0.91-release. |
16:46.20 | Arrowmaster | and im lazy |
16:46.44 | Arrowmaster | and just set mode +if #WoWUIDev-commits |
16:46.44 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack_ (n=Godzmack@85-220-59-213.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
16:47.39 | EthanCentaurai | LordFarlander: ping |
16:47.57 | Arrowmaster | EthanCentaurai: hes not here |
16:48.05 | Repo | 10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander 044.5.118-release * r118 : Tagging as 4.5.118-release. |
16:48.13 | EthanCentaurai | doh |
16:48.18 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander 042.5.84-release * r84 : Tagging as 2.5.84-release. |
16:48.30 | EthanCentaurai | meh, I'll write a ticket instead |
16:48.32 | Repo | 10baldrick: 03LordFarlander 041.5.84-release * r84 : Tagging as 1.5.84-release. |
16:48.39 | Arrowmaster | you use his crap? |
16:48.55 | EthanCentaurai | crap? :O |
16:49.08 | EthanCentaurai | aye, I use MiniPet and Coconuts |
16:49.27 | EthanCentaurai | in beta tho, not lie |
16:49.31 | EthanCentaurai | s/lie/live |
16:49.37 | Arrowmaster | i think he ran away last time he came on irc and we bombarded him with things that were wrong and he could fix |
16:50.12 | Aeyan | What ever happened to Alar? |
16:50.31 | *** join/#wowace pb_ee1 (n=nospam@bgn92-4-82-238-214-117.fbx.proxad.net) |
16:50.37 | Arrowmaster | not sure, i know hes using googlecode for something now though |
16:52.27 | *** join/#wowace Whietooth (n=Whitetoo@218-162-85-105.dynamic.hinet.net) |
16:54.13 | [SW]Dodge | branches are created with "clone repo" ? |
16:55.04 | Arrowmaster | no |
16:55.43 | molgar | How can i Set a texture to fade at the same time as a ScrollingMessageFrame? |
16:55.44 | Repo | 10manaperc: 03phyber 07master * v1.0-3-g76934fe ManaPerc.lua: [+1 commit] Made Druid power bar handling work properly (hopefully). |
16:57.38 | *** join/#wowace Nahkiss (n=nahkiss@a91-154-38-81.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
16:57.54 | Zhinjio | molgar you can probably parent it to the message frame, which I believe will force it to fade the same way. |
16:58.09 | Repo | 10simple-chat-mods: 03Rabbit * r110 / (2 files in 1 directory): Add afk.lua, hides subsequent AFK messages. |
17:00.10 | Repo | 10manaperc: 03phyber 04v1.1 * 0b3e4d6 /: [new tag] Made Druid power bar handling work properly (hopefully). |
17:02.38 | [SW]Dodge | hmm |
17:02.57 | [SW]Dodge | searching for ouf on wowace, but it only finds layouts or plugins :S |
17:03.32 | molgar | hmm, okey, ill try that.. |
17:04.08 | nevcairiel | ouf isnt on wowace |
17:04.28 | [SW]Dodge | ah okay |
17:05.01 | *** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
17:05.03 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: kaelten accidently moved Alar to curseforge when he merged his projects *shrug |
17:05.56 | Fisker- | Can't find titan, klhtm and dbm on wowace?++ |
17:07.09 | Arrowmaster | Fisker-: troll elsewhere |
17:07.45 | nevcairiel | hm 2 hours to raid panel |
17:07.45 | nevcairiel | goes to hack on BT4 |
17:07.47 | Fisker- | I am |
17:08.03 | Fisker- | not like you can see it nevcairiel >:3 |
17:08.09 | vhaarr | you're just trolling here as well? :p |
17:08.32 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: i can listen to the audio stream |
17:08.37 | Fisker- | of course vhaarr |
17:08.42 | vhaarr | ^^ |
17:08.47 | Fisker- | but it's wcradio >:E |
17:09.05 | Obelixprime | how do i know which addons on curse are wotlk capable? |
17:09.07 | *** join/#wowace spode (n=spode@90-229-150-87-no117.tbcn.telia.com) |
17:09.15 | Fisker- | doesn't like the IncTrojans and WCRadio duopoly >:3 |
17:10.21 | Repo | 10ahsearch: 03kunda * r59 / (3 files in 1 directory): AHsearch: |
17:10.22 | Repo | - no more wotlk-fix-category-msg with a fresh install |
17:10.23 | Repo | - minor fixes e.g. removed some debug code/update to new project page |
17:20.32 | *** join/#wowace sb (n=sb@HSI-KBW-078-042-200-228.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
17:26.28 | molgar | Anyone know how i can make a Texture Fade? |
17:27.20 | Cyrez | You mean make it see-through? |
17:27.40 | molgar | no, fade... like ScrollingMessageFrame,.. so i dont see it at all |
17:27.51 | Cyrez | OOOOOOoooo. |
17:29.04 | molgar | i manage to fade the text thats inside the scrollingmessageframe, but not the texture, |
17:29.10 | molgar | i even set the parent |
17:29.16 | molgar | but still no changes |
17:29.46 | Cyrez | sylvanaar might know, possibly. |
17:33.21 | *** join/#wowace dafire (n=warlock@dslb-088-070-057-133.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
17:33.22 | *** join/#wowace Paradox_ (n=Paradox@cpc1-brmb6-0-0-cust544.bagu.cable.ntl.com) |
17:33.29 | Arrowmaster | molgar: you cant easily |
17:34.01 | Cyrez | Yeah, that's what I was guessing. |
17:34.06 | *** join/#wowace yoshimo (n=chatzill@p5B0C21C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
17:34.20 | Arrowmaster | hmm wait |
17:34.27 | Arrowmaster | there might be a way |
17:34.30 | molgar | well, u can ;P i have another mod that does it, but i just dont quite understand how when i read his mod... |
17:34.57 | Arrowmaster | what scrollingmessageframe are you trying to do it on? |
17:35.03 | molgar | i wondering about if i should hide it insted, same time as the messageframe fade.. might be the right sulution |
17:35.13 | *** join/#wowace Dashkal (n=dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
17:35.18 | molgar | ScrollingMessageFrame |
17:35.22 | Arrowmaster | which |
17:35.31 | Arrowmaster | thats just a frame type |
17:36.27 | molgar | hmm, i dont use any templates if thats what u meen |
17:36.36 | Arrowmaster | i mean whats the name of the frame |
17:36.51 | Arrowmaster | is it one you are creating? |
17:37.23 | molgar | well no, i actually made it in xml. the frame is no problem rly, that fade after 5 sec, as it should |
17:37.43 | Arrowmaster | try something like '/dump FrameName:GetChildren()' ingame in the editbox |
17:37.58 | Arrowmaster | i think there will be a bunch of fontstrings listed |
17:38.18 | molgar | hmm, alright, ill try |
17:39.43 | Arrowmaster | i think if you parent the texture to one of those it might fade with the text, but like everytime new text is added to the frame it will show again |
17:39.52 | Arrowmaster | if you get the right one that is |
17:40.11 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07wrath * 4.1.0-WotLK-Beta2-7-g5efa96d / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
17:40.12 | Repo | 5efa96d: Added a Leave Vehicle Button to the Main Bar on Slot 12 |
17:40.13 | Repo | 7d5f26a: Updated TODO.txt |
17:40.26 | Arrowmaster | im guessing you are trying to do something like a border? that fades out when the text is gone? |
17:40.31 | nevcairiel | yay one of the blockers done for 3.0 |
17:41.22 | Arrowmaster | hmm i think im going to try portal prelude again, earlyer the main menu never finished loading... |
17:41.35 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack- (n=Godzmack@85-220-59-213.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
17:43.21 | *** join/#wowace Ozguli (n=probli@e83-245-128-28.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
17:43.28 | Ozguli | do you know what would be awesome? |
17:43.38 | Ozguli | a wow pluging port of the MegaHAL conversation bot |
17:43.43 | Ozguli | plugin* |
17:44.04 | Ozguli | the kb of this laptop fails.. |
17:44.24 | Ozguli | that's all this time |
17:44.28 | *** part/#wowace Ozguli (n=probli@e83-245-128-28.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
17:48.26 | nevcairiel | man i love the new state headers |
17:48.28 | nevcairiel | so easy to do stuff |
17:49.37 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07wrath * 4.1.0-WotLK-Beta2-8-g1b76f3f ActionButton.lua: [+1 commit] Fix error in auto-assist code with harm-assisting |
17:50.05 | *** join/#wowace Megalon (n=starfox@d86-32-5-97.cust.tele2.at) |
17:55.38 | *** join/#wowace Atriace (n=omnizeta@188.118.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
18:00.24 | [SW]Dodge | state headers? |
18:00.26 | [SW]Dodge | :) |
18:01.00 | *** join/#wowace Soulsbane (n=Soulsban@dial-69-55-144-224.sofnet.net) |
18:05.00 | waallen | weirdness in Parrot, every damage coming/going from/to a warlock gets stickied, http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/496/wowscrnshot101108194142ye2.jpg |
18:06.54 | Repo | 10auratochat: 03Rabbit * r30 .pkgmeta: Add missing package-as line to .pkgmeta ... wtflux? |
18:06.59 | *** join/#wowace EthanCentaurai (n=EthanCen@78.149.181.45) |
18:07.26 | Repo | 10ahsearch: 03kunda 04v3 * r60 : Tagging as v3 |
18:07.37 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack_ (n=Godzmack@85-220-59-213.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
18:13.17 | Repo | 10banzai-alert: 03Rabbit * r105 / (5 files in 2 directories): Nuke Ace2. |
18:13.51 | Zyndrome | "The first big news is Strand of the Ancients getting changed from 10vs10 to 15vs15. The amount of Vehicles is also being doubled." |
18:14.05 | Zyndrome | that's an improvement, 10vs10 feel so empty atm |
18:14.13 | Zyndrome | almost always a draw :< |
18:14.31 | nevcairiel | yeah the area is so fucking big |
18:16.03 | *** join/#wowace dubf (n=dubf@gprs-ggsn6-nat.mobil.telenor.no) |
18:16.12 | Zyndrome | "They also want players to be able to level up in battlegrounds through XP rewards in addition of honor. Daily quests will also be added." |
18:16.14 | Zyndrome | mohahahhahah |
18:16.20 | nevcairiel | haha in your face twinking |
18:17.51 | Fisker- | I thought they said as lately as some days ago that they were absolutely not going to do XP rewards in BGs |
18:18.08 | *** join/#wowace Gaurong (n=chatzill@88-104-63-13.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
18:18.13 | dafire | hmm.. if you download addonloader manually it gives you the nolib version ? |
18:18.14 | dafire | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/addon-loader.aspx |
18:18.26 | Cyrez | I'm not much of a PvP person but I still remember in the earlier days of my mage when I did BG and a teammate told me "nice frost gear". :) |
18:18.38 | nevcairiel | dafire: curse.com is just fucked |
18:18.45 | *** join/#wowace JerleMinara (i=Jerle@ip68-101-124-118.oc.oc.cox.net) |
18:18.57 | Fisker- | a billion dollars that the xp rewards are optional of course |
18:18.58 | Fisker- | >:3 |
18:20.01 | Fisker- | hehe |
18:20.05 | Fisker- | hunters = least represented |
18:20.11 | Fisker- | In what, non-retards? |
18:21.18 | Bruners_ | dafire: there is no versions, one named -nolib |
18:22.03 | dafire | Bruners_ ? |
18:22.56 | Industrial | I think the whole embedded thing wors like religion |
18:22.59 | Bruners_ | dafire: manually downloading gives you nolib version, if you look at downloads there you see that there is two files with same version number on named -nolib |
18:23.05 | Industrial | works |
18:23.25 | Zyndrome | "g Moop: is there an addon for the auction house which can save my searches?" |
18:23.27 | Zyndrome | cant recall any |
18:23.44 | dafire | Bruners_: i know that there are other versions... but it should give the avarage user a working copy if he presses the big download button |
18:23.47 | Industrial | 1. tell people how to do things based on a retarded concept |
18:23.53 | Industrial | 2. ... |
18:23.56 | Industrial | 3. profit! |
18:25.00 | Bruners_ | dafire: that would be ammo's? fault for uploading the -nolib version last :P |
18:25.23 | dafire | Bruners_: no.. the -nolib versions are not uploaded.. they are created by curse |
18:25.25 | Industrial | imho, the term disembedding should even exist in the wow universe and no "auto updater" (another one of those concepts) should support it. |
18:25.28 | Stanzilla | that was done by a script |
18:25.32 | Industrial | shouldn't |
18:25.49 | Industrial | then, there wouldnt be any whining or problems |
18:25.52 | Industrial | win! |
18:25.58 | JerleMinara | except disembedding is a huge performance boost on startup |
18:26.19 | Repo | 10yata: 03Tornhoof 07wotlk * r43 / (7 files in 1 directory): - First support for Totemsets, still missing ui for it |
18:26.21 | dafire | the mistake was the embedding |
18:26.22 | kenlyric | disembedding was great when I was backing up daily to a usb flash drive |
18:26.26 | JerleMinara | ding ding ding dafire |
18:26.32 | dafire | ding |
18:26.32 | Industrial | except thats only true if you have more then 100 addons, load every addon whenever you not need it (eg your whole auctioneer database, always) |
18:26.40 | Industrial | etc |
18:26.41 | kenlyric | so one lib update didn't updated 45 mods |
18:26.46 | JerleMinara | except your statement is incorrect Industrial |
18:26.57 | Industrial | kenlyric: thats just svn externals, not embedded libs per se. |
18:27.06 | kenlyric | disembedding is NOT a huge performance boost |
18:27.08 | Industrial | ^ |
18:27.09 | JerleMinara | I use a lot of addons, many of them LOD, and disembedded is still a lot faster to load in |
18:27.33 | dafire | disembedding was a huge boost when every addon shipped the huge ace2 |
18:27.37 | Industrial | the part where you said "I use a lot of addons" makes it so that your system gets heavier load |
18:27.40 | kenlyric | LOD has nothing to do with embedding |
18:27.45 | Industrial | you cant circumvent heavier load |
18:27.57 | Industrial | use less addons if you want less load |
18:28.07 | JerleMinara | kenlyric: not LOD in the literal sense but I was addressing his auctioneer thing |
18:28.17 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07wrath * 4.1.0-WotLK-Beta2-9-g461f274 ActionBarStates.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed disabling of Auto-Assist |
18:28.23 | JerleMinara | Industrial: there's a 5 second difference between loading in disembedded and loading in embedded |
18:28.29 | kenlyric | couple seconds faster login isn't a huge boost. If you have 100 addons, it's just going to take a while. |
18:28.33 | Industrial | so, 5 seconds. once. ever when you log in |
18:28.36 | Industrial | after that its loaded |
18:28.38 | dafire | JerleMinara: defrag your drive ;) |
18:28.39 | Industrial | big deal |
18:28.47 | JerleMinara | dafire: defragged last night :P |
18:29.26 | Industrial | the point is making dumb people screw their systems up and whine on the forums about problems created from nothing is ANOYING me cause i have to read it (for literally years now) |
18:29.49 | Cryect | wait someone is calling 5 seconds of extra load time a lot? |
18:30.00 | JerleMinara | it's like a 50% increase! |
18:30.01 | JerleMinara | :V |
18:30.05 | Industrial | s/5/x/. it doesnt matter how much the save is |
18:30.18 | JerleMinara | 10 to 15, utterly unacceptable. |
18:30.21 | Bruners_ | 5 seconds is a long time |
18:30.29 | Industrial | look the other way, check what time it is |
18:30.32 | Industrial | oh hey, game loaded |
18:30.35 | Cryect | 50% increase? you load all the models and world in under 5 seconds + your addons? |
18:30.36 | kenlyric | not when your login is already 60 seconds because you're running so many addons |
18:30.45 | Industrial | kenlyric: then clearly the addons are not the problem |
18:30.47 | dafire | trash some ace2 addons and your load time goes down 20 secs :) |
18:30.59 | kenlyric | the addons are the problem |
18:31.00 | JerleMinara | Cryect: my log in is about 10 seconds, with embedded it stretches to 15 |
18:31.02 | JerleMinara | hence, 50% |
18:31.03 | kenlyric | the embedding is not |
18:31.17 | Industrial | no, the user is |
18:31.21 | Industrial | for using that many oaddons |
18:31.27 | kenlyric | lies |
18:31.29 | kenlyric | all necessary |
18:31.31 | Industrial | try it with firefox. same effect. does it make firefox suck? |
18:31.35 | Industrial | no. |
18:31.40 | kenlyric | all necessary |
18:31.46 | Industrial | see? brain damage. |
18:31.47 | JerleMinara | but eh, disembedded works just fine, I use WUU and fiddlefucked with the new stuff so it autoupdates wowace libs disembedded |
18:31.48 | Cryect | if you are interested in reducing your load times would be better to move your addon directory to ram |
18:31.48 | JerleMinara | so life goes on |
18:31.53 | kenlyric | only if it makes the game run slower |
18:31.58 | kenlyric | who the fuck cares about boot times |
18:32.12 | kenlyric | ONLY LINUX TRASH |
18:32.17 | Industrial | JerleMinara: I use zips and load everything as its shipped, and my wow has been running fine for.. forever. |
18:32.30 | Industrial | kenlyric: my windows boots in under 30 secs *flex* |
18:32.40 | JerleMinara | good for you. Just because you don't use the feature doesn't mean that others don't |
18:32.49 | Industrial | ofcourse |
18:32.52 | JerleMinara | but it's a moot point now. |
18:32.54 | dafire | Industrial: you must have disembedded windows |
18:33.28 | dafire | better use zips and download manually then using curse downloader .9 |
18:33.36 | Industrial | <insert your mom joke> |
18:33.37 | Gnarfoz | at the moment, yes |
18:33.46 | dafire | that won't change |
18:33.48 | JerleMinara | dafire: i use WUU with some tweaks which now manually downloads them :P |
18:33.57 | JerleMinara | so i have my one button update that pulls the latest release version |
18:34.07 | Industrial | I actually pay attention to my addons so I know when they update |
18:34.26 | Industrial | instead of mashing "UPDAYT" every 15 mins |
18:34.35 | Industrial | and then wondering why your interface changed |
18:34.38 | kenlyric | you obviously don't have enough! |
18:34.49 | JerleMinara | I'm not keeping track 50-some addons Industrial |
18:34.53 | Industrial | i am |
18:34.54 | kenlyric | yeah, the curse updater is insane about that. No indication what it updates |
18:34.59 | Industrial | its very easy |
18:35.02 | JerleMinara | why bother? |
18:35.04 | dafire | skilless players do need more addons |
18:35.05 | JerleMinara | that's what software's for dude |
18:35.12 | kenlyric | I just check the folder update times |
18:35.19 | Industrial | yeah, like rss and a favorites list on wowinterface.com |
18:35.25 | Adirelle | CC .14 may display a log window |
18:35.37 | Industrial | then , when something updated i go read what changed |
18:35.38 | JerleMinara | i just fire up WUU and hit f10 whenever I launch wow and i don't have to worry about it |
18:35.39 | Repo | 10hits-mode: 03Allara * r44 Locales/HitsMode.enUS.lua: HitsMode: |
18:35.39 | Repo | - [1] Fixed error: GetString: Unable to locate "GAINSRAGEFROM" |
18:35.40 | kenlyric | all my mods aren't on one website, that's what pisses me off |
18:35.55 | JerleMinara | kenlyric: http://wuu.vagabonds.info :V |
18:35.59 | Industrial | JerleMinara: so you dont care wtf changed, and you just want the lates because its the best? |
18:36.05 | dafire | my updater writes a html log and shows it in the browser after update :) |
18:36.06 | JerleMinara | If something updates I grab the changelog |
18:36.14 | Industrial | 10000 |
18:36.17 | Industrial | 's of people dont |
18:36.22 | JerleMinara | ok |
18:36.29 | JerleMinara | i'm not sure how that's relevant to the conversation, but ok? |
18:36.32 | Stanzilla | dafire: I still want your updater! |
18:36.36 | Industrial | and that anoys me. the fact that they can do that automatically |
18:36.39 | JerleMinara | why |
18:36.43 | JerleMinara | why does it annoy you what other people do? |
18:36.45 | JerleMinara | get over it dude. |
18:36.47 | Industrial | when it breaks they will post on wowace |
18:36.48 | kenlyric | it's good to know that industrial's single mission has never changed |
18:36.51 | JerleMinara | so ignore them? |
18:36.54 | Industrial | and i need to read it, again and again |
18:36.56 | JerleMinara | no you don't |
18:37.03 | JerleMinara | see there's where your argument breaks down |
18:37.03 | Industrial | yes i do, because i go there too! |
18:37.05 | kenlyric | JerleMinara: he's been doing this for years, you might as well stop. |
18:37.26 | JerleMinara | Vonhinten: If the thread title resembles "HALP WHY DUZ MY ADDON NUT WORK", don't click it |
18:37.28 | JerleMinara | err |
18:37.32 | JerleMinara | stupid autocomplete |
18:37.32 | JerleMinara | haha |
18:37.48 | Industrial | JerleMinara: yet when I just tabbed to this channel i saw a convo about it |
18:37.49 | dafire | you can ignore ppl in vbulletin :9 |
18:37.50 | Industrial | so i whined back |
18:37.54 | *** join/#wowace Shirik|Ghost (i=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
18:37.55 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik|Ghost] by ChanServ |
18:37.55 | JerleMinara | .... |
18:37.59 | Industrial | yes, every day. |
18:38.02 | JerleMinara | see again this is where you make yourself look foolish |
18:38.25 | JerleMinara | just because people are talking about something doesn't mean you have to inject yourself into said conversation because you have this horrible victim complex about the hordes who dare to be less savvy than you |
18:38.29 | JerleMinara | oh mighty updater of the addons. |
18:38.39 | JerleMinara | seriously dude, how's the view from that high on the horse? :) |
18:38.40 | Bruners_ | i just timed my login now, embedded and not embedded. embedded used 2 seconds less time! |
18:38.43 | kenlyric | you don't know industrial very well |
18:39.05 | JerleMinara | kenlyric: i don't but I get this feeling he's the type of guy that's better when you put him on the ignore list |
18:39.20 | JerleMinara | Bruners_: huh, that's interesting. never would have expected that |
18:39.31 | dafire | Bruners_: you have to log in a thousand times until you get the time back that you have to find out what external you are missing and where those errors come from |
18:39.43 | Gnarfoz | you also seem to be that kind of person, for different reasons. |
18:39.49 | JerleMinara | in truth the 5 seconds isn't a big issue but I get kind of OCD about computer stuff, so I like having it all spread out and neatly organised :P |
18:39.57 | JerleMinara | Gnarfoz: aww, what reasons? Please do share |
18:40.07 | EthanCentaurai | Bruners_: I assume you did embedded first, then disembedded. WoW caches addons and resets the cache (thus taking longer) if it detects a change. |
18:40.10 | kenlyric | libs in their own folder is less organized... |
18:40.14 | Industrial | wanting me to stop talking because you disagree for one :) |
18:40.15 | Gnarfoz | I should time my logins w/ embedded/disembedded... if I could even get addons right now. CC just doesn't want to work right now :D |
18:40.27 | Bruners_ | two different wow folders |
18:40.39 | Bruners_ | samme addons only installed differently |
18:40.41 | JerleMinara | kenlyric: in one sense, yes, but at the same time you're not duplicating functionality across multiple places, wasting space! |
18:40.48 | Gnarfoz | anyway, it takes *ages* with disembedded already. it's not going to be faster embedded :> |
18:40.59 | Bruners_ | tested 3 times for each one |
18:41.19 | Industrial | JerleMinara: if I have something to say about a subject why wouldnt i say it? |
18:41.22 | dafire | the advantage got smaller because libraries got smaller ... the heavy ace2 times are over |
18:41.43 | Industrial | JerleMinara: you found it interesting enough to talk about, isn't that enough reason alone? |
18:41.55 | Gnarfoz | dafire: uhh right, like half of my addons are still ace2 :D |
18:42.01 | Industrial | and I'm not enforcing my opinion too. I'm just stating it |
18:42.07 | dafire | Gnarfoz: you are doing it wrong |
18:42.16 | Gnarfoz | no, it's just lots of addons. :( |
18:42.49 | Bruners_ | atleast 20 of my addons are ace2 |
18:43.02 | dafire | then look for better alternatives :) |
18:43.05 | Stanzilla | my only ace2 addons left are grid and bigwigs |
18:43.19 | kenlyric | what, who even pays attention to what libs their addons use? |
18:43.20 | kenlyric | zzzz |
18:43.23 | kenlyric | as long as it isn't cosmos |
18:43.42 | Industrial | JerleMinara: I _think_ it's a backwards concept. I believe software works when it does what it was made for. Not updating something doesn't mean its broken. This is what many people think and thus they need everything they have the latest version. the easier they can get it the better. |
18:43.58 | Industrial | and when shit does hit fans (every day) I get to read about it \o/ |
18:44.12 | Stanzilla | uhhhh |
18:44.15 | dafire | because you don't have to disembed if you don't use addons that use a shitload of libraries .) |
18:44.17 | Stanzilla | and Enhanced Colour Picker! |
18:44.32 | Industrial | or just dont disembed at all |
18:44.35 | Bruners_ | Industrial: for bosstimers and the like updating is often important |
18:44.52 | Industrial | and addons should use stable libraries too. so if it breaks it doesnt break 100 versions |
18:45.05 | Industrial | so you have 2 versions of 1 library running, tough shit. a little memory extra |
18:45.20 | Industrial | er, 100 addons* |
18:45.24 | Industrial | makes sense, right? |
18:45.35 | Industrial | thats what the embedding is for in the first place |
18:45.41 | Industrial | let more then 1 versions coexist |
18:45.53 | Industrial | version* (sorry, typos) |
18:45.55 | nevcairiel | not really |
18:46.00 | dafire | Industrial: no |
18:46.01 | nevcairiel | the libs update |
18:46.06 | Industrial | minors, yes. |
18:46.06 | nevcairiel | and the old version gets thrown out |
18:46.31 | Industrial | but minors are bug fixes, not new shiny featurs to base your addons on |
18:46.51 | Bruners_ | embedded takes up about 10mb more for the addons i use |
18:46.59 | Industrial | and you dont have 10MB ram? |
18:47.08 | Bruners_ | speaking of diskspace now |
18:47.16 | Industrial | and you dont have 10MB diskspace? |
18:47.20 | Bruners_ | and its not an issue :P |
18:47.35 | Bruners_ | atm i have about 1TB free |
18:47.45 | Industrial | so why ever include it in an auto updater to rip addons apart and throw them together automatically? |
18:47.51 | *** join/#wowace Yssaril (n=Yssaril@adsl-99-145-19-62.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
18:48.00 | Industrial | i dont want my addon being touched :P |
18:48.03 | JerleMinara | why not? |
18:48.10 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack- (n=Godzmack@85-220-59-213.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
18:48.14 | Industrial | cause its _always_ problems |
18:48.19 | JerleMinara | that's what id on't get, why crusade against the ability of people to save that 10 megs of diskspace or 10 megs of ram |
18:48.24 | JerleMinara | if they want to do it, that's their prerogative |
18:48.46 | kenlyric | because it's computers |
18:48.57 | kenlyric | gotta have a religion somewhere.. |
18:49.29 | *** join/#wowace Whitetooth_ (n=chatzill@118-169-192-206.dynamic.hinet.net) |
18:49.34 | Bruners_ | wasted ram is still wasted ram be it 10mb or 100mb |
18:49.38 | Industrial | because they made an issue out of something then totally blew it up and wowace exploded into what it is today |
18:50.12 | Industrial | and i just disagreed with the way things went (and still do) |
18:50.40 | Bruners_ | what was the discussion about again ?:P |
18:50.52 | dafire | Bruners_: but there is no wasted ram.. a library that is already loaded won't load again |
18:51.10 | Industrial | why people made auto updaters and why people need their libraries disembedded |
18:51.19 | Industrial | more the latter |
18:51.57 | Bruners_ | Industrial: auto update is just more of an extra feature to the updating software, why have to click update when the software can do it for you |
18:52.00 | JerleMinara | it just strikes me as fairly petty to get so incensed at the idea that someone out there is daring to disembed their stuff. |
18:52.34 | Industrial | JerleMinara: not just someone, enough to make it so big an issue that theres an entire forum dedicated to it |
18:52.42 | Industrial | now |
18:53.03 | Paradox_ | on monday are we getting a new version of CC? hopefully with beta addon downloadability |
18:53.08 | Paradox_ | AND disembedded libs! |
18:53.15 | JerleMinara | i was using someone in the sense that you would use the word "people" |
18:53.34 | JerleMinara | don't read that forum. i could see your point if there was no forum and it was spread through the wowace forums, but.. it's not? |
18:53.48 | JerleMinara | I don't know, I just don't get your perspective and I don't get why it's such a big deal to you. ah wel |
18:53.53 | Industrial | its even on the irc channel (where ive been hanging out since there were 4 people on it) |
18:54.22 | JerleMinara | going to go work out and head to blizzcon. fight the good fight industrial. continue the crusade, someone's gotta do it! |
18:54.35 | Industrial | marches |
18:55.20 | Industrial | its just geekwars :P same as vim/emacs or tabs/spaces |
18:55.37 | JerleMinara | yeah I figured as much |
18:55.44 | JerleMinara | i find those sorts equally contemptible, but i'm glad we're on the same page! |
18:55.58 | Industrial | (for the record, vim and tabs) |
18:56.02 | Industrial | (*cough*) |
18:56.59 | Elsia_ | emacs and you don't care for tabs/spaces arguments anymore, it's in the scripts ;) |
18:57.17 | JerleMinara | linux is for nerds, notepad++? |
18:57.32 | JerleMinara | and "tabs/spaces was really an argument? *really*?" |
18:57.35 | JerleMinara | and on that note, laters :P |
18:57.37 | *** join/#wowace Vegeta]BT[ (n=Vegeta-G@xdslgo000.osnanet.de) |
18:58.04 | Repo | 10yata: 03Tornhoof 07wotlk * r44 / (11 files in 2 directories): -Localization support |
18:58.33 | Industrial | Elsia_: yeah I just regexp all spaces to tabs anyway or gg=G :3 |
18:58.50 | Repo | 10yata: 03Tornhoof 07wotlk * r45 Localization/zhTW.lua: - Looks like i forgot one |
19:01.35 | Elsia_ | geekwars are silly, little endian vs big endian? microkernal vs linux? ruby vs rails? embedded vs embossed? correct answer to all these: yes please! ;) |
19:02.02 | Tornhoof | embossed? |
19:02.10 | Industrial | Tornhoof: is too! |
19:02.13 | Industrial | hides |
19:02.20 | Elsia_ | addons should be embossed onto your harddrive ;) |
19:02.38 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
19:02.39 | Elsia_ | advantage: only download once : |
19:02.40 | Elsia_ | D |
19:02.45 | Tornhoof | i guess i don't follow ;) |
19:02.47 | *** join/#wowace Keias (i=Saiek@c-69-245-192-208.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
19:02.52 | Elsia_ | I'm just joking around |
19:02.57 | dafire | we need an embedder that embedds all addons into one lua file for optimizations |
19:03.13 | Tornhoof | yeh thought so after thinking twice about embossed ;) |
19:03.20 | Elsia_ | auto-unfolding all loops etc I'm up for that |
19:03.27 | Industrial | and then scrambles it and makes it copy itself over wow channels |
19:03.46 | Industrial | have fun |
19:03.47 | Elsia_ | all addons should be self-generating code |
19:04.03 | Tornhoof | yes someone write a lisp interpreter in lua |
19:04.18 | Industrial | and then implement lua in it |
19:04.19 | Tornhoof | or rather use lisp instead of lua in wow 4.0 |
19:04.35 | Industrial | im in for python |
19:04.36 | Industrial | :p |
19:04.48 | Elsia_ | as long as noone uses oberon it's ok |
19:04.55 | Tornhoof | hehe |
19:05.14 | Tornhoof | why not, I'm for programming language localized versions of wo |
19:05.15 | Tornhoof | w |
19:05.24 | Tornhoof | so no enGB locale, but a LISP locale |
19:05.37 | *** join/#wowace Whitetooth_ (n=chatzill@118-169-192-206.dynamic.hinet.net) |
19:05.55 | *** join/#wowace Erica647 (n=Erica@cpe-076-182-120-037.nc.res.rr.com) |
19:06.10 | Elsia_ | wonder what would be the most painful language to write addons in |
19:06.18 | Tornhoof | brainfuck |
19:06.20 | Elsia_ | lambda calculus? |
19:06.24 | nevcairiel | whitespace |
19:06.57 | Erica647 | machine language? |
19:07.26 | Industrial | hm, yesterday I made a normal to reverse polish notation converter.. in java :P |
19:07.27 | Erica647 | Hey Sek... Lyndi here |
19:07.41 | Industrial | (I had to, not like I did it for fun >_>) |
19:08.00 | *** join/#wowace Sir_Harry_5th (n=jezussie@i131220.upc-i.chello.nl) |
19:08.01 | Tornhoof | what does reverse polish notation look like? |
19:08.17 | Elsia_ | 2 3 + 5 - = |
19:08.29 | Elsia_ | (2+3)-5= |
19:08.44 | *** join/#wowace Arrowmaster (n=Arrow@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ResponsibleForEverythingAndNothing/Arrowmaster) |
19:08.49 | Industrial | 523+- |
19:08.52 | Elsia_ | it's parse order basically, easy for machines to read |
19:09.04 | Tornhoof | ah yes i remember |
19:09.13 | Elsia_ | so some old calculators used it, because they sucked at storing even minimal data |
19:09.40 | Elsia_ | we are dating ourselves but oh well :D |
19:09.45 | Pneumatus | basically written in the order that values/operations are pushed onto the stack? |
19:09.50 | Elsia_ | yes |
19:10.40 | Tornhoof | heh dunno when i last heard about that, must be some 10 years ago in university or something |
19:10.50 | Industrial | yeah it was a stack excercise (for uni! :D) |
19:11.01 | Elsia_ | the very early TI calculators used it, for real... and those were expensive in the days |
19:11.17 | Pneumatus | one of my final year modules was to extend the 'hoc' bison compiler |
19:11.32 | Elsia_ | bisons are nice animals |
19:11.34 | SunTsu | I have a HP48GX who does rpn |
19:11.40 | Erica647 | Can anyone tell me if there are any good and free irc clients that don't expire after 30 days... and work on Windows? |
19:12.01 | Bruners_ | Erica647: irssi |
19:12.02 | Industrial | xchat |
19:12.08 | Industrial | irssi only runs with cygwin |
19:12.32 | Erica647 | I have xchat but it says it expires in 30 days |
19:12.37 | Industrial | or.. there might be standalones with the cygwin dll ripped out |
19:12.45 | Elsia_ | mirc is actually worth the one-time shareware fee |
19:12.49 | *** join/#wowace |Yssaril| (n=Yssaril@adsl-99-145-19-62.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
19:12.50 | Industrial | theres an open source build |
19:12.53 | Elsia_ | and you can use it past 30 days if you want |
19:13.06 | Industrial | http://www.silverex.org/news/ |
19:13.07 | sb | mhh |
19:13.13 | Bruners_ | just be bad ass and use a pirated serial |
19:13.27 | Bruners_ | not that i promote using priated software |
19:13.36 | sb | mirc isnt that expensive... |
19:14.10 | Erica647 | ok thanks... gonna check those out |
19:14.35 | Tornhoof | hydrairc should be fine too |
19:15.44 | Trela | Any one know if there is a way to force Curse to update with WoWAce? |
19:15.57 | Bruners_ | Erica647: Chatzilla if you use firefox https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/16 |
19:15.58 | Erica647 | Thanks Torn... trying Hydra now |
19:17.17 | Industrial | NimbleRabit: ping |
19:17.22 | *** join/#wowace smcn (i=smcn@c-67-160-186-84.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
19:17.36 | *** join/#wowace Arrowmaster (n=Arrow@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ResponsibleForEverythingAndNothing/Arrowmaster) |
19:18.30 | fewyn | someone help me decide on my leveling spec for my lock in wotlk |
19:19.21 | Industrial | affliction |
19:19.26 | Industrial | cause it will pwn |
19:19.33 | SunTsu | fewyn: I am going affliction again |
19:19.37 | Industrial | and is generally very fun to play, cause you are just playing with other people |
19:19.59 | *** join/#wowace Whitetooth_ (n=chatzill@118-169-192-193.dynamic.hinet.net) |
19:20.03 | Cyrez | It really depends on whether you're going PvE or PvP or both, IMHO. |
19:20.05 | fewyn | i leveled 1-51 demo and 51-70 as affliction but with all the changes i'm not sure |
19:20.10 | fewyn | i said leveling |
19:20.15 | fewyn | not a 80 spec =p |
19:20.31 | Industrial | im affliction all the way >_> |
19:20.44 | Industrial | (only 59 now tho) |
19:20.48 | fewyn | that's what i'm going to do at 80 |
19:21.00 | Cyrez | Want enough in Demo to beef up at least your Void, and the rest really depends on your personal style. |
19:21.06 | Industrial | well affliction doesnt have downtime ever so good for leveling right? |
19:21.08 | fewyn | i just wonder if demo might make it easier to level? |
19:21.15 | SunTsu | I was affliction until 1100 Spelldamage and loved leveling with it. And now that affliction even uses crit for dots |
19:21.22 | fewyn | i used to use my VW a lot while leveling |
19:21.32 | fewyn | i actually haven't summoned him in a long ass time |
19:21.36 | Industrial | i only ever used my imp after level 25 |
19:21.48 | *** join/#wowace erica647 (n=erica647@cpe-076-182-120-037.nc.res.rr.com) |
19:21.50 | Industrial | only to tap |
19:21.56 | Industrial | er, dark pact |
19:22.07 | fewyn | i only have a pet out for dp |
19:22.10 | erica647 | Hydra is awesome :) |
19:22.13 | Industrial | and you can take on 3 mobs at the same time, win, and not have downtime :P |
19:23.08 | fewyn | need to decide on an exact spec then |
19:23.28 | *** join/#wowace Groktar (n=Groktar_@76-236-38-194.lightspeed.frsnca.sbcglobal.net) |
19:24.19 | Cyrez | Beef up your Void and put the rest of your points into sucking the live out of everything. |
19:24.56 | Bruners_ | hmm, mirk checks your serial online now? |
19:25.10 | fewyn | mirk? |
19:25.14 | Arrowmaster | mirc? |
19:25.23 | Bruners_ | mirc yes |
19:25.52 | Cyrez | zips his lips. |
19:26.21 | Arrowmaster | wow this speed test is perty fail |
19:26.24 | *** join/#wowace icemoon (n=chatzill@58.38.173.42) |
19:26.27 | Stanzilla | http://www.kvirc.de/?id=&lang=en |
19:26.29 | Stanzilla | imo |
19:26.38 | Arrowmaster | theres no way my cable is 19448 kbps |
19:26.54 | Arrowmaster | seems to not be clearing its own cache |
19:27.46 | Industrial | fewyn: http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=IfxrrurhoiVRcstbxc0c ? |
19:28.43 | fewyn | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=IcxrbhbNoVAohot0xhZM maybe something like that to start out as? |
19:28.46 | Industrial | I didnt take Soul Link on purpose cause that'd hurt the pet and your life leeches dont heal the pet meaning you'd have to heal it all the time |
19:28.59 | Industrial | which is anoying imo |
19:29.17 | Industrial | but i never use it to take damage anyway :P |
19:29.18 | *** join/#wowace varaman (n=Miranda@62-47-56-181.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
19:31.01 | Industrial | just fear :3 |
19:31.19 | stew_a | i don't suppose anyone knows of a good string similarity algorithm? i need to check how similar 2 strings are, but not equal, similar |
19:31.27 | SunTsu | .o0( If you can fear it you can kill it ) |
19:31.39 | Industrial | stew_a: I'd ask that in #lua |
19:31.56 | Industrial | SunTsu: yes, </3 undeads |
19:32.07 | stew_a | ah good point |
19:32.17 | Industrial | i just shadowbolt them to death :< |
19:32.28 | SunTsu | Industrial: I really love them at the moment, leveling paladin in dusk wood |
19:32.32 | Industrial | hehe |
19:33.39 | SunTsu | What I dislike is the change to CoR, no more controlled fear |
19:34.04 | SunTsu | Curse juggling was really fun |
19:34.34 | *** join/#wowace Whitetooth__ (n=chatzill@118-169-192-193.dynamic.hinet.net) |
19:35.01 | Zhinjio | Zeksie: ping |
19:35.02 | Groktar | bads couldn't do it so they had to remove it |
19:36.26 | SunTsu | Groktar: Maybe there were too many complaints about tanks getting a heart attack.. "ZOMG! Don't fear! DONT FEAR!" |
19:37.04 | Groktar | hehe |
19:37.35 | *** join/#wowace erica647 (n=erica647@cpe-076-182-120-037.nc.res.rr.com) |
19:37.40 | Groktar | i'm pretty sure it really was because bads couldn't do it |
19:37.48 | Groktar | blizzard explained their reasoning once |
19:39.23 | Groktar | Curse juggling was a very hardcore tactic. Yes, it demonstrated mastery of the class mechanics, but it also made groups reluctant to have the lock fear at all, because it wasn't easy to do. |
19:39.41 | Groktar | translation: bads can't do it |
19:43.02 | Zyndrome | christ |
19:43.10 | Repo | 10hits-mode: 03Allara * r45 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Removed revision number from options window |
19:43.12 | Zyndrome | massive lag atm @ Wintergrasp on beta :( |
19:44.14 | Repo | 10hits-mode: 03Allara 04r46-release * r46 : Tagging as r46-release. |
19:48.19 | Repo | 10mendeleev: 03Rabbit * r226 / (4 files in 1 directory): |
19:48.21 | Repo | Initial removal of Ace2, still needs some cleanup and the options should be made nicer. |
19:51.10 | [SW]Dodge | someone here who has expirience with creating ouf layouts? |
19:52.26 | vhaarr | ~asktoask |
19:52.27 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
19:52.49 | [SW]Dodge | hehe okay :) |
19:53.11 | Bruners_ | the toggle auto updated in curse client does what? |
19:53.24 | *** join/#wowace Sliker_Hawk (i=SlikerHa@5acf5d49.bb.sky.com) |
19:53.26 | *** join/#wowace Whitetooth__ (n=chatzill@118-169-196-171.dynamic.hinet.net) |
19:53.55 | *** join/#wowace Sunwind (n=Paradox@cpc1-brmb6-0-0-cust544.bagu.cable.ntl.com) |
19:55.38 | [SW]Dodge | currently i'm trying to make my own layout based on ouf_classic there they have a ["size"] = 'small' in the second oUF:RegisterStyle() call, the size setting is used in the "func" function there and it gets the value as parameter, is there a way to get it somewhere else too? (i want/need it in PostUpdateHealth function) |
19:56.11 | [SW]Dodge | Bruners_: it should enable auto update of your addons. but afaik this requires premium |
19:56.31 | *** join/#wowace kenlyric (n=kenlyric@skenlam.itpo.iu.edu) |
19:56.33 | *** join/#wowace Random (n=Denial@unaffiliated/windaria) |
19:57.11 | Bruners_ | [SW]Dodge: but isnt that already turned on in configuration->addon settings? |
19:57.31 | vhaarr | [SW]Dodge: just store it as a property on the frame and access it there? |
19:57.35 | Bruners_ | [SW]Dodge: if i check toggle auto update the addons turns red |
19:57.51 | [SW]Dodge | Bruners_: then it disables the autoupdate maybe |
19:58.02 | [SW]Dodge | vhaarr: grml... yea... thats a nice idea xD |
19:58.04 | [SW]Dodge | thanks :P |
19:58.21 | vhaarr | :p |
20:03.10 | NimbleRabit | Industrial, ? |
20:04.23 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x573bcc63.henqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
20:09.20 | Repo | 10crit-spit: 03Rabbit * r27 CritSpit.lua: |
20:09.21 | Repo | Add a LDB display, nothing is embedded so some other addon must have it. |
20:09.56 | *** join/#wowace grennon (n=jdawg@c-75-64-65-68.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
20:10.53 | *** join/#wowace Nechckn (n=N@c-98-218-229-122.hsd1.dc.comcast.net) |
20:11.18 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Nechckn] by ChanServ |
20:14.15 | *** join/#wowace harl (i=harl@dslb-088-077-132-004.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
20:14.26 | grennon | supplying a defaults table breaks acedb? |
20:15.15 | JoshBorke | grennon: false! |
20:17.38 | Industrial | NimbleRabit: Are you "Nimbal" ? |
20:17.40 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
20:17.41 | Industrial | NimbleRabit: >_> |
20:18.01 | NimbleRabit | nope |
20:18.06 | Industrial | aw, ok, sorry then :P |
20:18.09 | NimbleRabit | lol np |
20:20.39 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack_ (n=Godzmack@85-220-59-213.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
20:21.26 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
20:21.36 | Gnarfoz | someone's trying to sell his beta account in trade chat :D |
20:21.51 | *** join/#wowace KriLL3 (n=KriLL3@unaffiliated/krill3) |
20:21.51 | [SW]Dodge | ok... again i see that it is HARD to code if there is a cool movie in TV :/ |
20:22.25 | SunTsu | [SW]Dodge: Hm, hard to prove since there normally is hardly a good movie on TV |
20:22.55 | [SW]Dodge | SunTsu: paytv :P |
20:23.38 | [SW]Dodge | s/paytv/(free) paytv/ |
20:23.39 | [SW]Dodge | ^^ |
20:23.42 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
20:25.37 | *** join/#wowace Xinhuan (i=xinhuan@adsl1500-63.dyn83.pacific.net.sg) |
20:25.46 | *** join/#wowace cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
20:28.26 | JoshBorke | does Ace3 support modules? |
20:28.31 | [SW]Dodge | yeqa |
20:28.34 | [SW]Dodge | -q |
20:29.06 | [SW]Dodge | YourAddon:NewModule("name" [,libs...]) |
20:29.37 | JoshBorke | mmk, thanks |
20:29.43 | grennon | alright, when testing my ace3 based mod on beta, i get as far as calling aceconfigdialog now, at which points it barfs on no instance of acegui-3.0 |
20:29.55 | grennon | i double checked and made sure acegui was in the toc file |
20:30.12 | grennon | and in the path the toc file specified |
20:31.04 | JoshBorke | then you're doing something wrong :D |
20:31.10 | grennon | obviously |
20:31.33 | grennon | my wife reminds me of that several times a day in fact |
20:32.40 | JoshBorke | it probably has to do with the order listed |
20:34.20 | Repo | 10yata: 03Tornhoof 07wotlk * r46 TotemBar.lua: - fix |
20:36.03 | grennon | order listed in the toc? |
20:36.08 | JoshBorke | grennon: correct |
20:40.49 | grennon | okay, putting acegui before aceconfig in the toc seemed to have fixed that |
20:45.38 | backbone87 | is it possible to remove the button from multiline textboxes within aceconfig? e.g. for read only but copyable content? |
20:45.46 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
20:45.46 | [SW]Dodge | someone knows if i can recruite-a-friend myself without creating a full account(no key for the recruited acc) and get the 3x ep for an alt on my account? (with dualboxing^^) |
20:46.29 | *** join/#wowace Higdur_ (n=nike@81-229-140-43-o1124.telia.com) |
20:47.14 | grennon | wunderbar, got this mostly working now |
20:48.15 | *** join/#wowace Higdur__ (n=nike@81-229-140-43-o1124.telia.com) |
20:48.46 | grennon | interfaceoptionsframe_opentoframe no longer there in 3.0? |
20:50.59 | nevcairiel | its OpenToCategory now |
20:51.09 | nevcairiel | just renamed |
20:52.42 | grennon | hrm, could i just check for the existence of that function and then use whichever one exists as a way to provide backward/forward compat til tuesday? |
20:52.51 | *** join/#wowace Kody- (n=kody@da001d1793.atl-ga.osd.concentric.net) |
20:52.51 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Kody-] by ChanServ |
20:53.37 | *** join/#wowace Elsia (n=Elsia@212-183-56-234.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
20:53.47 | nevcairiel | sure |
20:58.44 | *** join/#wowace theduke (i=user@chello084113137160.3.13.vie.surfer.at) |
20:59.35 | grennon | yeah, thats nice |
20:59.36 | grennon | self.gui = InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToFrame or InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory |
21:01.32 | Trela | Mmm, sexy idea! |
21:01.40 | Trela | pointing to Grennon's idea. |
21:01.56 | EthanCentaurai | [SW]Dodge: no, you need to upgrade the trial account to a full account (you need a separate key) and buy two months of time for said account |
21:02.08 | grennon | yeah, it works great for a whole 3 days and then can be removed :-) |
21:02.17 | grennon | just helps me keep dual-testing live/beta til then |
21:02.26 | [SW]Dodge | EthanCentaurai: damn! |
21:03.36 | Adirelle | is there a list of all the items that becomes "currencies" with the 3.0 ? |
21:04.08 | Adirelle | (or a way to extract it) |
21:06.20 | Adirelle | weird, tabletlib doesn't display any background anymore |
21:11.31 | Repo | 10classtimer: 03ominous 06classtimer-wotlk * r271 Bars/Deathknight.lua: added some dk stuff thanks to waallen |
21:12.24 | *** join/#wowace Yssaril (n=Yssaril@adsl-99-145-19-62.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
21:20.34 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
21:23.01 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: ping |
21:23.12 | nevcairiel | huh? |
21:23.51 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: do you know if Mapster 'knows' Bloodcurse Isle (island off of Bloodmyst Isle, draenei start area) in regards to 'foglight'? |
21:24.03 | nevcairiel | it does everything |
21:24.06 | nevcairiel | +know |
21:24.27 | Gnarfoz | sure? :> |
21:24.38 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i noticed a weirdness there though, it stayed red after discovering, try reload ui :P |
21:24.43 | Gnarfoz | because the Cartographer Foglight module doesn't seem to handle it. shows it colored... yes. |
21:24.46 | Gnarfoz | that,. |
21:24.55 | Gnarfoz | hmm reload you say? |
21:25.01 | nevcairiel | if its red in the first place, it knows it |
21:25.02 | Gnarfoz | maybe it's the same problem ;) |
21:25.04 | nevcairiel | its some weirdness |
21:25.51 | Gnarfoz | seriously, sometimes I feel stupid talking to people in English when I know they know my 1st language, too ;D |
21:26.01 | Gnarfoz | random observation. ;) |
21:26.10 | Groktar | devours Gnarfoz's soul |
21:26.24 | Gnarfoz | hmm nope, stays "dark". I'll try Mapster. |
21:27.35 | nevcairiel | it works for me |
21:27.35 | nevcairiel | as i said, i have the full map discovered |
21:27.36 | nevcairiel | but i had to reload ui after i initially discovered it |
21:27.36 | nevcairiel | <.< |
21:28.02 | Gnarfoz | well, I *think* I have it discovered anyway |
21:28.19 | Gnarfoz | because I didn't get a discovery message and I'm 100% certain I did the quests here when I leveled. |
21:28.51 | Gnarfoz | but still, it shows it greyed out. Cartographer_Foglight, that is. that hasn't been touched in quite a while though, so I'll give Mapster a try to check. ;) |
21:29.25 | Gnarfoz | come 3.0, I'll switch over anyway because Mr. 4 gigs of raw code will be too busy hacking on cf/wowace ;D |
21:29.38 | Cheads | =) |
21:29.38 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
21:29.43 | Cheads | Mapster is nice |
21:30.04 | nevcairiel | i just recently revalidated all foglight data |
21:30.10 | Groktar | likes mapster |
21:30.18 | Groktar | what's foglight? |
21:30.38 | Gnarfoz | lifts the 'you haven't been here, yet' fog on the map |
21:31.08 | Groktar | is that different than mapster? |
21:31.15 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
21:31.16 | Repo | 10minimalist: 03grennon * r74 / (2 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
21:31.17 | Repo | Minimalist: |
21:31.18 | Repo | Made Blizz UI Frame call back/forward compat with 2.4/3.0 |
21:31.18 | Gnarfoz | it's a module of it =) |
21:31.19 | Repo | Fixed embeds with 3.0 order |
21:31.22 | Repo | Removed unused code |
21:31.23 | Groktar | o, ok |
21:31.40 | Gnarfoz | actually, for Mapster, it's called "FogClear" but whatever |
21:31.55 | Gnarfoz | it's the same as Cartographer's Foglight module, except not pseudo-abandoned |
21:32.19 | nevcairiel | i optimized it some, too :P |
21:32.24 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: yep, it's carto's not-being-updated-ness that was the culprit. it shows as discovered with Mapster =) |
21:32.45 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: try deleting the foglight/fogclear data from your saved vars |
21:32.58 | Arrowmaster | if the maps were changed you might have old data |
21:33.09 | fewyn | i <3 foglight |
21:33.13 | fewyn | i turned it solid black |
21:33.17 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: oh, good point. I keep forgetting it saves that even though nev has a full map anyway =) |
21:33.17 | fewyn | when i went on my discovery trip |
21:33.30 | Gnarfoz | I have it set to 50% alpha black =) |
21:33.31 | fewyn | so i could discover everything |
21:33.41 | nevcairiel | i added a button to clear the saved data to Mapster |
21:33.44 | nevcairiel | if it bugs out |
21:33.47 | Gnarfoz | yeah I know |
21:33.49 | fewyn | took me 2 days to get everything discovered |
21:33.52 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: yeah really should make it save build number or something too and auto clear on new builds |
21:34.26 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: actually... why does Mapster have a color picker without alpha? :< |
21:34.29 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: generally it really shouldnt be needed if the mod maintained, i only have it for me so i can copy the data out there |
21:34.36 | Gnarfoz | I can choose only color, not alpha of that color |
21:34.37 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: huh? it does have alpha |
21:34.42 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
21:35.17 | nevcairiel | i save it, too |
21:35.30 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: hm nope? this is 1.0.3 live build and when I click on the color square in the fogclear options, I get a color circle + brightness slider :\ |
21:35.35 | Gnarfoz | but no alpha |
21:36.17 | nevcairiel | hm |
21:36.20 | nevcairiel | checks |
21:36.33 | fewyn | yea |
21:36.34 | fewyn | no alpha |
21:36.38 | fewyn | i remember that specifically |
21:37.11 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: lol, when toggling fogclear on and off repeatedly with bloodmyst isle open, that island off to the right I was talking about (Bloodcurse Isle) sometimes as a "halo" around it and somtimes it's fully blacked out... |
21:37.17 | Gnarfoz | something strange is going on there ;) |
21:37.28 | nevcairiel | that part of the map is somehow bugged |
21:37.48 | Gnarfoz | you bet :X |
21:38.47 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: does mapster do libguildpositions stuff, btw? |
21:39.18 | nevcairiel | not on its own |
21:39.24 | nevcairiel | HandyNotes + HandyNotes_Guild |
21:39.44 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
21:39.49 | fewyn | does handynotes work in wrath? |
21:40.02 | fewyn | i don't think i've tried it yet |
21:40.16 | grennon | holy shit |
21:40.22 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
21:40.23 | grennon | i just found grepWin |
21:40.36 | fewyn | xD |
21:40.40 | Gnarfoz | ? whatsat |
21:40.44 | JoshBorke | HOLY SHIT!!! nevcairiel: the wowace register page looks TERRIBLE |
21:40.44 | Gnarfoz | also, GnuWin32 |
21:40.47 | fewyn | grep for windows =p |
21:40.53 | grennon | programming on windows is such torture without a good grep |
21:41.00 | grennon | and grepWin is pretty nice |
21:41.24 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: ...handynotes is what, carto_notes clone? ^^ |
21:41.38 | Gnarfoz | I suck at keeping track of all these singled-out carto module clones ;) |
21:41.40 | grennon | going from using vi and unix utils all day at work to using gvim on windows at home from modding always felt like a regression |
21:42.04 | grennon | but yeah, grepwin will help you find which files call a method you are looking for real fast |
21:42.50 | grennon | i found it a little while ago when i went to upgrade my tortoisesvn |
21:43.10 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.0.3-1-g93b6f75 FogClear.lua: [+1 commit] Add Alpha configuration to the overlay color configuration |
21:43.11 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07wrath * 1.0.3-WotLK-6-g5c4a4a6 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+6 commits] (2 truncated) |
21:43.13 | Repo | 5c4a4a6: Merge branch 'master' into wrath |
21:43.17 | Repo | 93b6f75: Add Alpha configuration to the overlay color configuration |
21:43.21 | Repo | 6e7e0e6: Fixed .pkgmeta syntax |
21:43.23 | grennon | in fact, MS should just replace that sorry animated dog search with that grepWin :-) |
21:43.25 | Repo | e271f38: Added .pkgmeta file |
21:43.39 | nevcairiel | hm i didnt push for a while =P |
21:43.44 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: heyt |
21:44.14 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: spammer |
21:51.15 | grennon | Odlaw: heard you finally killed KJ this week |
21:53.45 | *** join/#wowace Hence (n=chatzill@83.251.78.252) |
21:53.47 | *** join/#wowace Hindrian (n=chatzill@83.251.78.252) |
21:55.06 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
21:55.20 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
21:56.28 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
21:57.20 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack- (n=Godzmack@85-220-59-213.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
21:57.26 | *** join/#wowace kagaro (n=kagaro@cpe-065-190-128-061.nc.res.rr.com) |
21:58.15 | Repo | 10raid-cooldowns: 03tsigo * r8 / (2 files in 1 directory): RaidCooldowns: |
21:58.16 | Repo | - Add Priest/Guardian Spirit |
21:58.17 | Repo | - Update toc for 3.0 |
21:58.20 | *** join/#wowace Thelyna (n=burp@122-57-255-32.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
21:59.03 | *** join/#wowace eliza (n=Lyn@Ld367.l.pppool.de) |
22:04.05 | fewyn | so |
22:04.17 | fewyn | bets on if the servers will die tuesday? |
22:04.29 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
22:06.45 | *** join/#wowace Elsia_ (n=Elsia@212-183-56-151.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
22:09.19 | *** join/#wowace Spennig (n=Aingeal@host-12-181-179-249.clearviewcatv.net) |
22:09.37 | *** join/#wowace dabujo (i=xx@p4FDB38B7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
22:10.22 | selckin | won't be patch! |
22:10.42 | nevcairiel | fewyn: beta should stay online, northrend isnt live yet =P |
22:10.45 | nevcairiel | ptr will die |
22:11.17 | fewyn | no i meant the wowace servers =p |
22:11.42 | nevcairiel | oh |
22:11.47 | nevcairiel | nah doubt it |
22:11.53 | nevcairiel | mass updating will be through curse |
22:12.12 | fewyn | yea |
22:12.27 | fewyn | but there's going to be MASS updating |
22:12.37 | nevcairiel | not everything breaks |
22:12.40 | nevcairiel | not like 2.0 |
22:12.45 | Fisker- | noone will be premium |
22:12.47 | Fisker- | everyone will be like |
22:12.49 | Fisker- | "GOOOOOOOD" |
22:12.59 | Fisker- | and hate Curse for all eternity :( |
22:13.04 | fewyn | xD |
22:13.19 | fewyn | if premium comes out before 3.0.2 i'll pay for it anyways |
22:13.44 | Spennig | I just hope the curse stuff notices the updated mods before 3.0 >_> |
22:14.16 | fewyn | well i switched it to using alpha builds, seems most everything works that i checked to see if it worked in beta |
22:15.00 | Fisker- | So SC2 beta soon i guess |
22:15.12 | fewyn | probably |
22:15.16 | fewyn | within 6 months |
22:15.21 | Fisker- | nah |
22:15.23 | Fisker- | within the month |
22:15.24 | Fisker- | ~ |
22:15.30 | fewyn | which is within 6 months |
22:15.42 | Fisker- | But the remaining 5 isn't |
22:15.54 | fewyn | =p |
22:15.56 | Chompers | damn wow radio stream |
22:15.59 | Chompers | stop buffering |
22:16.02 | Fisker- | So you might as well go batshit retarded and say "Within the end of time" |
22:16.06 | Chompers | i wanna hear the class panel |
22:16.07 | fewyn | yep |
22:16.13 | fewyn | i don't think anyone is airing it :( |
22:16.24 | fewyn | i think wcradio is doing the d3 panel |
22:16.41 | Chompers | they're doing both |
22:16.44 | *** join/#wowace Sunwind (n=Paradox@cpc1-brmb6-0-0-cust544.bagu.cable.ntl.com) |
22:16.48 | Fisker- | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWI <-I wonder how quickly you'd be banned for redirecting that to WorldWide Invitational? :D |
22:16.51 | fewyn | where's the class panel? |
22:17.41 | Chompers | http://media2.wcradio.com:8000/listen.pls |
22:17.49 | *** join/#wowace Iboong (n=user@77.87.207.194) |
22:18.22 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack (n=Godzmack@85-220-12-188.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
22:19.21 | fewyn | ew having latency issues with the feed :( |
22:20.22 | nevcairiel | class panel feed is broken |
22:20.26 | nevcairiel | thats why we listen to d3 =P |
22:21.16 | fewyn | =p |
22:21.20 | fewyn | I DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO D3 |
22:21.38 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
22:23.17 | *** join/#wowace Vulcanus (n=Vulcanus@212251188096.customer.cdi.no) |
22:25.51 | *** join/#wowace NightHawkTheSan2 (n=jonathan@216-160-120-88.tukw.qwest.net) |
22:37.54 | *** join/#wowace Vegeta]BT[ (n=Vegeta-G@xdsleo247.osnanet.de) |
22:38.48 | *** join/#wowace charon (n=thomas@unaffiliated/charon) |
22:41.40 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
22:42.29 | [SW]Dodge | ~API GetDifficultyColor |
22:42.29 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetDifficultyColor |
22:43.03 | *** join/#wowace Jagobah (n=jago7777@adsl-155-216-159.owb.bellsouth.net) |
22:46.17 | Repo | 10xperl: 03Zeksie * r188 / (30 files in 17 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
22:46.17 | Repo | XPerl: |
22:46.18 | Repo | - Address some issues with POM animation. Hopefully should no longer get the occasional stuck sparkle. |
22:46.21 | Repo | - Fixed the Party members health numbers being replaced by percentage. |
22:46.25 | Repo | - Small performance optimizing for LibHealthComm handler. |
22:50.44 | Repo | 10dhud2: 03Arcanefoam 042.0Alpha * r50 / (2 files in 1 directory): DHUD2: |
22:50.45 | Repo | -Added new default table. Options still don't change but you can now see how the values change in the UI. |
22:52.18 | *** join/#wowace Whitetooth___ (n=chatzill@118-169-198-116.dynamic.hinet.net) |
22:53.52 | RaydenUni | when is patch? tuesday? |
22:54.10 | Chompers | looks like it |
22:54.13 | Chompers | nothing official though |
22:54.53 | Repo | 10hits-mode: 03Allara * r47 Locales/HitsMode.enUS.lua: |
22:54.55 | Repo | - [3] Fixed error: GetString: Unable to locate "GAINSENERGYFROM" |
22:55.09 | *** part/#wowace Elsia_ (n=Elsia@212-183-56-151.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
22:55.13 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
22:56.58 | Keias | They said at BlizzCon that a "big patch is coming tuesday" |
22:57.12 | Keias | Forgot which panel though :( |
22:57.28 | Gnarfoz | it's pretty glaring obvious that it's next week. |
22:57.56 | Gnarfoz | arena season snapshot + modified hallow's end stuff that's not yet in the game starts 2 days afterwards? when else if not then! :D |
22:58.29 | Spennig | ::grins:: careful, we can't expect Blizz to make sense tho. |
22:58.59 | *** join/#wowace Archarodim (i=HydraIRC@lev92-4-88-164-134-95.fbx.proxad.net) |
22:59.17 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack_ (n=Godzmack@85-220-12-188.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
22:59.33 | Zeksie | anyone else getting strange reports of ace errors popping up? i know the problem is prolly a conflicting ace2 module somewhere, but if anyone has any info that's more exact, it'd be helpful to forward on to users. |
22:59.43 | Zeksie | Poor things have lost WAU and are struggling :) |
22:59.52 | Arrowmaster | no |
23:00.10 | Arrowmaster | unless you can actually give an error message |
23:00.14 | Spennig | I am actually in the process of re-doing all my addons from that >_< trying to just switch to the CC was ugly. |
23:00.42 | Stanzilla | I bet it's lib upgrading |
23:00.48 | Zeksie | Arrowmaster: a few examples: http://www.wowace.com/projects/zomgbuffs/tickets/13-library-errors/ |
23:01.10 | Zeksie | is obviously an embed issue. but what exactly, i'm not sure |
23:01.17 | Arrowmaster | oh thats bug |
23:01.22 | Arrowmaster | oh that bug |
23:01.28 | Arrowmaster | theres only one fix |
23:01.34 | Zeksie | shoot |
23:01.48 | Arrowmaster | stop using anything that uses AceOO-2.0 |
23:02.04 | Arrowmaster | which includes all of Ace2 |
23:02.15 | Zeksie | funny |
23:02.16 | Gnarfoz | ... |
23:02.18 | Gnarfoz | not |
23:02.21 | Arrowmaster | im serious |
23:02.31 | Arrowmaster | its some flaw in AceOO-2.0 |
23:02.32 | Gnarfoz | also: what's the standalone replacement for Carto_instanceloot called again? |
23:02.58 | Arrowmaster | we tried to track it down last year but gave up |
23:03.11 | Zeksie | ok.. |
23:03.21 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: InstanceLoot =P |
23:03.36 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: thought so, too - where's it at, though? |
23:03.47 | Arrowmaster | if they install the most recent standalone Ace2 i bet the errors would go away though |
23:03.54 | nevcairiel | dunno |
23:03.56 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowace.com/projects/?search=instanceloot :[ |
23:04.01 | Gnarfoz | not on wowi, either |
23:04.17 | Fisker- | burn in righteous fire Zeksie |
23:04.17 | nevcairiel | oh wait |
23:04.18 | Fisker- | >:3 |
23:04.21 | Zeksie | Arrowmaster: was gonna suggest that, cos I've never had such a problem |
23:04.21 | nevcairiel | there only was InstanceMaps |
23:04.33 | Gnarfoz | and that includes that? |
23:04.44 | Arrowmaster | Zeksie: yeah and neither did any of us trying to track that damn bug down, because we all used disembeded |
23:04.45 | nevcairiel | maybe |
23:04.46 | nevcairiel | not sure |
23:04.47 | nevcairiel | :D |
23:05.08 | Gnarfoz | I hate half-assed clones that are better solely because they're rewrites... but incomplete |
23:05.12 | Gnarfoz | xD |
23:05.33 | Gnarfoz | yeah, there's a loot.lua in there |
23:06.04 | Arrowmaster | Zeksie: hmm ill have to check, seems somebody did a commit to Ace2 after i did |
23:06.06 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
23:06.09 | Arrowmaster | so there is an alpha version |
23:06.26 | Arrowmaster | which will be embedded but not in standalone |
23:07.14 | nevcairiel | probably only my upgrade path fix |
23:08.13 | Arrowmaster | upgrade path fix? |
23:09.21 | nevcairiel | i bumped all minors of all libs |
23:10.14 | Zeksie | Arrowmaster: yeah, i run disembeded too. only way that 'feels' right :) |
23:10.16 | Gnarfoz | Kemayo: so, did you notice that InstanceMaps has utf problems all over the place? :D |
23:10.34 | Gnarfoz | Kemayo: almost every string in it displays as ? or ?? :D |
23:10.39 | Zeksie | one thought though, because of the new version numbering, it's going to break the detection of MINOR_VERSION? if that's not already re-coded? |
23:11.43 | *** join/#wowace Gagorian (n=k@a91-153-60-25.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
23:12.43 | Arrowmaster | ok i edited the alpha zip to be release now |
23:12.44 | Repo | 10mounted: 03yssaril 07master * 0.0.15b-4-g81de0d3 Macros.lua: [+1 commit] fix macro tooltips |
23:13.11 | *** join/#wowace |Yssaril| (n=Yssaril@adsl-99-145-19-62.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
23:13.23 | Arrowmaster | Zeksie: thats what nevcairiel's commit fixed |
23:13.24 | nevcairiel | hm only 60 libs left on my list that i probably would need to fix LoD wise |
23:13.43 | Zeksie | ok. will point them to that in the first instance. |
23:14.03 | *** join/#wowace Cyrez (n=thecyrez@c-24-5-6-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
23:14.35 | Arrowmaster | i hadnt fixed it because i was told that during the import, svn:keywords were SUPPOST to be removed from everything and the original values of those keywords left in the file |
23:16.13 | Repo | 10mounted: 03yssaril 040.0.16b * 50efbd2 /: [new tag] fix macro tooltips |
23:17.15 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: actually, the script i wrote and ran was supposed to run during import, virtually inflating all numbers |
23:17.19 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack- (n=Godzmack@85-220-12-188.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
23:17.42 | nevcairiel | but somehow it was forgotten |
23:17.45 | Zeksie | :) |
23:17.56 | *** join/#wowace TheOther (n=nahh@ti131310a340-0747.bb.online.no) |
23:18.18 | Zeksie | it's like anniversarries. You fully intend on buying flowers, and you're almost as surprised as she is when you turn up empty handed.. |
23:18.38 | nevcairiel | lol |
23:18.57 | Spennig | >_< |
23:20.47 | Repo | 10ace-gui-3-0-shared-media-widgets: 03yssaril * r7 AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets.toc: remove LoD so it will load in 3.0 |
23:25.20 | Stanzilla | was that the start of a commit flood nev? :P |
23:25.21 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster check the list of libs i posted on teh forums, somehow it feels too short, but oh well, sleep now |
23:25.28 | nevcairiel | no |
23:25.31 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
23:25.44 | Stanzilla | nice, how I failed to see that yss commited that |
23:25.49 | Stanzilla | need sleep :> |
23:25.50 | nevcairiel | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=242081#post242081 |
23:26.09 | nevcairiel | thats all the libs that dont use LibRock or AceLibrary as load manager |
23:26.18 | nevcairiel | at least i think that =P |
23:26.43 | *** join/#wowace quoin (n=quoin@115-166-4-86.ip.adam.com.au) |
23:27.20 | Arrowmaster | well there will still be other issues |
23:27.43 | nevcairiel | whats that? |
23:28.00 | Arrowmaster | like im not sure but i think i might have used LibStub("SomeAce2Lib") in places while fixing up old stuff |
23:28.10 | |Yssaril| | Stanzilla: that was me cause it wasnt on nevs list since its not really a lib |
23:28.16 | nevcairiel | meh your own fault then |
23:28.24 | Arrowmaster | yeah who cares really |
23:28.29 | Arrowmaster | its blizzards fault anyway |
23:28.42 | Arrowmaster | because im 100% sure this has to be a bug |
23:28.58 | Arrowmaster | from how theyve kept fucking up the addon load stuff |
23:29.25 | nevcairiel | I'll probably run the script tomorrow then, need to get Repo down before |
23:29.40 | nevcairiel | but really sleep now :) |
23:29.47 | |Yssaril| | nevcairiel: jsut keep it up and see what happens :) |
23:30.07 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
23:30.18 | nevcairiel | 50 commits? |
23:30.24 | nevcairiel | doesnt sound too smart |
23:30.31 | *** join/#wowace fewyn (n=fewyn@46.210.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) |
23:30.42 | |Yssaril| | you think repo would break? |
23:30.56 | nevcairiel | it would spam us to hell |
23:30.58 | nevcairiel | or flood out |
23:31.13 | |Yssaril| | hehe |
23:34.18 | *** join/#wowace ins\away (n=ins@83.101.37.233) |
23:34.21 | Arrowmaster | why the fuck doesnt vB have a strikethrough |
23:35.49 | Repo | 10dhud2: 03Nevcairiel * r51 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fix embeds.xml and .pkgmeta |
23:36.06 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
23:36.56 | fewyn | it does doesn't it? |
23:37.06 | fewyn | i'm pretty sure it does |
23:37.41 | Repo | 10xperl: 03Zeksie * r189 / (3 files in 1 directory): XPerl: Version bumped to 2.4.3g. |
23:38.10 | fewyn | oh |
23:38.12 | fewyn | not by default |
23:38.17 | fewyn | Vulcanus |
23:38.18 | fewyn | ! |
23:38.25 | fewyn | go add a strikethrough bbcodde |
23:38.36 | Vulcanus | meh, why XD |
23:38.50 | fewyn | because i said so |
23:38.56 | fewyn | and that's reason enough imo |
23:39.02 | grennon | captain skyshatter is my mortal enemy now |
23:39.08 | fewyn | me too |
23:39.36 | Repo | 10xperl: 03Zeksie 042.4.3g * r190 : Tagging as 2.4.3g. |
23:40.07 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
23:40.43 | Arrowmaster | Vulcanus: because smart people use strikethroughs! and we like to think were smart people! |
23:41.11 | Vulcanus | psh |
23:41.28 | fewyn | do it |
23:41.41 | Arrowmaster | seriously though, it would be useful |
23:41.49 | fewyn | DO IT |
23:42.28 | *** join/#wowace Jazr (n=for-chan@220-253-106-136.TAS.netspace.net.au) |
23:43.55 | KriLL3 | grennon: why? |
23:44.54 | Vulcanus | Arrowmaster: [strike]text[/strike] |
23:45.11 | Arrowmaster | Vulcanus: k |
23:45.19 | grennon | KriLL3: because i cant beat him :-) |
23:45.27 | KriLL3 | I did second try |
23:45.29 | Vulcanus | "k"? I believe the proper term is "thank you" =p |
23:45.55 | Arrowmaster | Vulcanus: I SHOULDNT HAVE HAD TO ASK YOU TO INSTALL IT IN THE FIRST PLACE! |
23:45.58 | KriLL3 | it's easier if you have a crop or a paladin wingman btw, stick close to his tail and most of his attacks hits him |
23:46.05 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
23:46.10 | Arrowmaster | Vulcanus: <3 |
23:46.14 | Vulcanus | Yes you should, nobody uses it except the people who try to be funny :p |
23:47.29 | *** join/#wowace NightHawkTheSane (n=jonathan@70-56-92-112.tukw.qwest.net) |
23:47.36 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: so not fixing the obsolete libs gets the authors to fix their junk faster eh? :D |
23:47.44 | *** join/#wowace Mytos (n=nate@c-76-99-111-229.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
23:47.48 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: yes |
23:47.49 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack_ (n=Godzmack@85-220-12-188.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
23:48.35 | Mytos | is there some way that i can make it so it doesnt ask me if i wanna reenchant an item while im trying to level my enchanting? |
23:48.51 | Vulcanus | OMG. I PATCH GAEM N NOW MY ADON DUN WERK. CURS CLEINT SUXX, I GONA SUE U GAIZ |
23:49.44 | nevcairiel | Hm elkano wrote LibInventory-2.1 |
23:49.48 | nevcairiel | wonder wtf he uses it for |
23:49.53 | Mytos | speakin of curse client, whats the deal with it putting its own addon in my interface folder |
23:50.09 | Vulcanus | Blame the execs of Curse |
23:50.18 | Vulcanus | they didn't want kolie to allow it to be uninstalled |
23:50.20 | Arrowmaster | Mytos: disable it if you want, it will stay disabled |
23:50.26 | Vulcanus | sucks, I know, I just disable it within the game |
23:50.41 | Mytos | i think its just creepy |
23:50.42 | Arrowmaster | just consider it cost of doing business, like ads |
23:50.49 | KriLL3 | CC is an adware installer now? |
23:50.51 | Arrowmaster | its just a dataminer for wowdb |
23:51.04 | Mytos | it makes me very wary of the fact that nowadays wowace is basically merging with curse |
23:51.05 | nevcairiel | you can uninstall it from the updater |
23:51.15 | Vulcanus | oh? you couldn't before |
23:51.30 | nevcairiel | i think it was added |
23:51.44 | Vulcanus | ha |
23:51.45 | Vulcanus | awesome |
23:52.36 | Mytos | anyways, im leveling enchanting with an alt, it wouldnt be nearly so bad if i didnt have to confirm if i wanted to redo the enchant on the item im using to level, anyone have a suggestion? |
23:56.35 | Mytos | anybody? |
23:57.10 | fewyn | you can make a short addon i think |
23:57.11 | Spennig | <-- clueless and lurking in hopes that intelligence will seep in. |
23:57.28 | fewyn | i pieced one together once somehow |
23:57.44 | fewyn | let me see if i can find it |
23:59.07 | fewyn | Ah yep and it still works |