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| 00:00.12 | kenlyric | buttonbin is amazing |
| 00:00.20 | Bruners_ | Fisker-: i have to jump to get out of the circle in orgrimmar battleground room |
| 00:00.43 | NeoTron | kenlyric: thanks :) I will really try to get the individual block config done RSN |
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| 00:06.26 | ShaneSveller | can someone link me the updated .14 build of the client that kolie posted earlier today with some fixes? |
| 00:07.18 | Stanzilla | 18:11:32 â kolie: Anyone who had the 2.0.0.14 test release lastnight is broken: Fixed test release is here http://static.curseforge.net/client/CurseSetup-2.0.0.14.exe |
| 00:08.30 | ShaneSveller | thanks much |
| 00:10.00 | kenlyric | fubar plugin tooltips don't fade on mouseout, is that a known issue neotron? |
| 00:10.33 | NeoTron | yeah it's a bit iffy |
| 00:10.52 | NeoTron | for now workaround is to mouse over something that doesn't have it |
| 00:11.02 | NeoTron | btu thanks for reminding me to fix that, it's really annoying |
| 00:11.34 | Repo | 10hits-mode: 03Allara * r41 / (7 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 24 lines) |
| 00:11.35 | Repo | HitsMode: |
| 00:11.36 | Repo | - SUPPORT FOR WOW PATCH 3.0 (WRATH OF THE LICH KING) |
| 00:11.36 | Repo | - Major rewrite of output engine |
| 00:11.40 | Repo | - Complete rewrite of aura handling |
| 00:12.06 | NeoTron | damn 28 line committ message? :P |
| 00:12.10 | NeoTron | almost makes me curious |
| 00:13.14 | Yssaril | NeoTron: http://www.wowace.com/projects/hits-mode/files/26-r41/ |
| 00:14.41 | NeoTron | haven't used hitsmode since pre-2.4 |
| 00:14.45 | NeoTron | maybe I'll check it out again |
| 00:18.02 | Yssaril | never used it. is it any food? |
| 00:18.06 | Yssaril | *good |
| 00:18.44 | NeoTron | it's a easier-to-view combat log |
| 00:18.54 | NeoTron | much more brief and filtered etc |
| 00:19.04 | NeoTron | less useful nowadays but imho still has a place |
| 00:19.10 | NeoTron | mainly pre-2.4 it made the combat log usable |
| 00:23.29 | Repo | 10hits-mode: 03Allara * r42 Locales/HitsMode.enUS.lua: HitsMode: |
| 00:23.30 | Repo | - Knowledge base updates to remove references to files.wowace.com |
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| 00:32.33 | Repo | 10acheron: 03Nickodemus_wow * r45 / (2 files in 1 directory): Acheron: |
| 00:32.34 | Repo | - make stacking auras display as "Debuff (n)" rather than "Debuffxn" |
| 00:36.09 | Odlaw | damn finally got KJ down. what a relief |
| 00:36.39 | Stanzilla | grats |
| 00:40.45 | fewyn | There we go, got my ui up and running and updateable with CC http://gallery.fewyn.net/d/2634-1/WoWScrnShot_100908_203910.jpg |
| 00:45.29 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Stanzilla * r4759 embeds.xml: BigWigs: really remove AceDebug |
| 00:45.31 | Repo | 10adavak: 03ananhaid * r2 TODO: Badge of Justice |
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| 00:55.04 | Repo | 10hits-mode: 03Allara 04HitsMode4 r43 release * r43 : Tagging as HitsMode4 r43 release. |
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| 00:55.57 | KriLL3 | does everything in wow work 100% if I move the installation folder? |
| 00:56.26 | falconindy | KriLL3: Yeah, it does |
| 00:56.31 | KriLL3 | just realized wow is installed on a crowded IDE disk when I got a lot of near empty SATA discs |
| 00:56.34 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r80 / (4 files in 2 directories): Coconuts: |
| 00:56.34 | KriLL3 | nice |
| 00:56.35 | Repo | - Improved variable mount handling |
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| 00:59.33 | Bruners_ | what is the CD on those fucking priest instant aoe fears? |
| 01:00.04 | KriLL3 | Bruners_: too short |
| 01:00.22 | Bruners_ | its the most annoying thing after druids |
| 01:00.35 | KriLL3 | always a hoot to play against a team with a priest, they rush into melee range and fears everyone |
| 01:00.41 | KriLL3 | Bruners_: resto druids |
| 01:00.51 | KriLL3 | and imo warlocks are more annoying than that |
| 01:00.57 | Bruners_ | warlocks are fine |
| 01:01.06 | KriLL3 | a million ways to CC you, and they drain away your HP and give it to themselves |
| 01:01.24 | Bruners_ | warlocks are easy to kill |
| 01:01.27 | KriLL3 | 4-5 dots, fear, lifedrain, fear, lifedrain |
| 01:01.27 | Bruners_ | compared to druids |
| 01:01.32 | KriLL3 | naw |
| 01:01.42 | KriLL3 | restos can't hurt you, warlocks kills you in seconds |
| 01:01.57 | Bruners_ | pfft |
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| 01:02.03 | Bruners_ | resto/balanace can kill anyone |
| 01:02.10 | KriLL3 | naw |
| 01:02.21 | KriLL3 | they don't have the mana pool to both dmg and heal |
| 01:02.39 | Bruners_ | they do |
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| 01:07.51 | digmouse | g'morning |
| 01:08.03 | Bruners_ | morning |
| 01:10.17 | NeoTron | KriLL3: wow I'm sorry but I just need to lol at that |
| 01:11.01 | Jyggaa | hi, can somebody tell me how i could set up a macro to add a waypoint to my current position on carto? |
| 01:11.37 | Jyggaa | basically i need the variables that contain the current x and y values right? |
| 01:12.08 | Jyggaa | /waypoint add $x $y |
| 01:12.09 | Jyggaa | or sth |
| 01:12.21 | Jyggaa | /waypoint add $x,$y |
| 01:12.54 | KriLL3 | I'm just saying that they expend mana to deal damage and to heal, if you only need mana to heal you can outlast em |
| 01:15.28 | Bruners_ | KriLL3: where do warlocks have a million ways to CC you btw? |
| 01:16.18 | KriLL3 | fear, deathcoil, that aoe stun thing, pet charge, slow curse, and if I recall correctly one of their beams slow you |
| 01:16.31 | KriLL3 | aoe fear also |
| 01:16.59 | digmouse | omg they even dont kill ROS last night :( |
| 01:17.18 | Bruners_ | aoe stun is deep destruction, pet charge is deep demonology, slow beam is priest |
| 01:17.27 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 01:17.37 | Bruners_ | both fear and aoe fear got cast times and break easy |
| 01:17.46 | KriLL3 | you're kidding right? |
| 01:17.50 | digmouse | my lock guidies all decide to reroll DK |
| 01:18.03 | WobWork | what's priest slow beam? |
| 01:18.06 | NeoTron | fear is the least useful CC in pvp |
| 01:18.08 | KriLL3 | It's rare it ever breaks for me before the duration ends, and that's with a full set of dots + lifedrain on me |
| 01:18.11 | NeoTron | so many ways to break it |
| 01:18.22 | KriLL3 | one unless your UD/warrior |
| 01:18.24 | NeoTron | no warlock would pvp with shadowfury (in current live) at any serious level |
| 01:18.34 | NeoTron | you can also dispell fear |
| 01:18.46 | Bruners_ | shadowfury is pure for AV fun times |
| 01:18.53 | Bruners_ | nothing more |
| 01:18.56 | KriLL3 | NeoTron: that requires a class that can dispell |
| 01:19.11 | KriLL3 | and that's what, priest? paladin? |
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| 01:19.55 | NeoTron | ever heard of tremor totem? |
| 01:20.04 | NeoTron | or fear ward (I know, doesn't break fear but prevents one) |
| 01:20.16 | KriLL3 | that's shaman and priest |
| 01:20.30 | KriLL3 | you think every pvper out there got a shaman/priest next to em? |
| 01:20.42 | NeoTron | not to mention kick, counterspell, earth shock etc to interrupt any cast time/channeled spells |
| 01:20.54 | NeoTron | I know warlocks don't dominate in arenas by far |
| 01:21.19 | KriLL3 | there isn't a single way I know of to beat shadow + sl/sl |
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| 01:22.17 | NeoTron | you can kill them |
| 01:22.21 | NeoTron | what class do you play? |
| 01:22.23 | Bruners_ | they are easy to kill |
| 01:22.28 | KriLL3 | I'm feral |
| 01:22.33 | KriLL3 | Bruners_: bold words |
| 01:22.34 | NeoTron | well there's your problem |
| 01:22.47 | NeoTron | it'd be like pvping with a high destro build and expect to win |
| 01:22.50 | Bruners_ | i play one myselfe and i can kill one easy on both my rogue and hunter |
| 01:22.57 | KriLL3 | NeoTron: nothing at all like it |
| 01:23.13 | NeoTron | definitely. arena's as a destro spec warlock is positively awful |
| 01:23.20 | KriLL3 | Bruners_: how do you survive the dots + lifedrain ? |
| 01:23.23 | NeoTron | much like feral druid |
| 01:23.33 | KriLL3 | NeoTron: I actually know a destro lock that's 2100+ |
| 01:23.34 | Bruners_ | feral druids is an easy target for a warlock, yes |
| 01:23.47 | NeoTron | rock meet scissors meet paper |
| 01:24.05 | NeoTron | aren't feral druid easy targets for pretty much any class in arenas? |
| 01:24.29 | KriLL3 | ... |
| 01:24.29 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.29 | Bruners_ | not for a rogue |
| 01:24.29 | KriLL3 | I couldn't tell |
| 01:24.38 | KriLL3 | only specs I got issues with is Ice, Affliction and shadow |
| 01:24.39 | NeoTron | isn't that one of the long-standing issues druids complain about? how only resto is truly viable for arenas |
| 01:24.40 | falconindy | ferals kinda tear rogues up, just because they can outlast them in bear and bleed em out |
| 01:25.26 | KriLL3 | we more or less kill most melee classes easily |
| 01:25.28 | KriLL3 | and hunter |
| 01:25.45 | Bruners_ | depends on the hunter i would say |
| 01:25.47 | KriLL3 | spellcasters are our greatest weakness, except elementals |
| 01:26.16 | KriLL3 | not really, I've played a ton of hunters both BM and Marksman, I can take em out easily |
| 01:26.44 | KriLL3 | they can't really hurt me in bearform while my bleeds and dmg deals quite a lot of damage in the long run |
| 01:27.06 | KriLL3 | their endless scare beast attempts are mana draining though |
| 01:27.21 | Bruners_ | then they are doing it wrong |
| 01:27.33 | KriLL3 | I hate blizz for making druids the only class vulnerable to 2 CCs |
| 01:27.59 | KriLL3 | Bruners_: the key element for a hunter to deal dmg is gaining distance from you, ferals are near impossible to kite |
| 01:28.05 | falconindy | nevermind that you get to ignore roots, snares, and sheeps |
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| 01:28.17 | KriLL3 | falconindy: for a huge mana impact |
| 01:28.26 | KriLL3 | we effectively manaburn ourselves to shift like that |
| 01:28.40 | KriLL3 | that's why you're oom before you've gotten a ice mage to half hp |
| 01:28.41 | NeoTron | all I hear is QQ frankly |
| 01:28.42 | falconindy | 1 is greater than zero, sir. You have a reliable option to break those CCs, whereas almost every other class is waiting on a cooldown |
| 01:29.56 | KriLL3 | most others don't have the same desperate need to brake snares |
| 01:30.31 | Bruners_ | others being warriors, rogues and shamans ? |
| 01:30.42 | Bruners_ | oh and paladins |
| 01:30.48 | KriLL3 | casters |
| 01:32.24 | KriLL3 | and druids can't mitigate magical damage, warriors can reflect, rogue's can CloS, shamans can earthshock casts |
| 01:32.57 | KriLL3 | I can handle just about anyone dealing physical dmg, can't handle a single caster more or less |
| 01:33.19 | KriLL3 | except elem but they're neftbat |
| 01:34.57 | Bruners_ | skill cloak lasts for 5s and got a 1 min CD, not really usable to mitigate anything then braking roots/ice and dots |
| 01:35.13 | mykx | feral/rogue 2v2 can actually do very well I have a friend that was 2200 with the comp but most druids are resto for sure |
| 01:35.32 | KriLL3 | most casters tend to rely on sudden bursting when you're CCed, rogues survive that with ease |
| 01:35.50 | KriLL3 | mykx: I'm 1700~ with a rogue friend that's an alt, S2/blues |
| 01:36.08 | mykx | dunno how things are now this was back in season 2 but yeah |
| 01:36.26 | KriLL3 | restos are horribly imbalanced for 2on2 atm |
| 01:36.51 | KriLL3 | blizz didn't see the problem of putting all feral tanking skills at the shallow end of the tree |
| 01:37.07 | KriLL3 | thus they can heal well and absorb physical damage |
| 01:37.29 | KriLL3 | it's a bit better in LK but still not good imo |
| 01:38.40 | KriLL3 | also a bit odd that ferals need 11-16 points in resto... |
| 01:38.40 | Bruners_ | KriLL3: all tank classes got the most important tanking skills at the end of the tree |
| 01:38.41 | kadrahil | so um |
| 01:38.52 | KriLL3 | Bruners_: no not druids |
| 01:39.10 | kadrahil | i've only ever played on pvp servers, but on normal servers if someone is pvp flagged and they get caught in your aoe (or multishot or w/e), does that flag you? |
| 01:39.15 | KriLL3 | thick hide for example is tier 2 |
| 01:39.29 | KriLL3 | kadrahil: yes |
| 01:39.39 | kadrahil | hah, what a way to grief someone |
| 01:42.54 | KriLL3 | I'm a bit worried about feral pvp in LK, can't test it myself but it seems like we're pure dps with very little / almost no utility, we're basically a rogue and will need to partner with a healer |
| 01:43.45 | Repo | 10cleanminimap: 03Azxiana * r2 / (59 files in 17 directories): Uploading first version. |
| 01:45.19 | KriLL3 | though we deal a lot more dmg in bearform now, thus we can stand toe to toe better with physical dps |
| 01:47.38 | pakoz | Any chatter fans here? |
| 01:48.02 | KriLL3 | I use it, would that make me a fan? |
| 01:48.07 | pakoz | heh - s'pose |
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| 01:48.35 | pakoz | i'm actually trying to configure it - is there a way to make the 'text box' appear above the chat window instead of below? |
| 01:48.41 | KriLL3 | yes |
| 01:48.59 | KriLL3 | edit box polish -> attach to.... |
| 01:49.05 | pakoz | ah polish box , kk thx |
| 01:49.21 | KriLL3 | yes not very intuitive |
| 01:49.28 | KriLL3 | "input field/box" would be better |
| 01:49.53 | pakoz | thank you much~ |
| 01:50.20 | KriLL3 | np |
| 01:54.47 | Trela | P.S. Is the packager still broken? |
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| 01:55.39 | Yssaril | Trela: shouldnt be |
| 01:55.56 | Trela | Ah, I was trying to find my newest package. Thanks. |
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| 02:04.53 | Bruners_ | im so pro at being rogue, just capped whole DB and SP GY and got them down solo :P |
| 02:08.29 | KriLL3 | I've done the same on my druid except in FW, am I pro to? =P |
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| 02:13.49 | Bruners_ | KriLL3: easyer in FW |
| 02:14.04 | KriLL3 | how so? you can shadowstep right into the bunkers |
| 02:14.57 | Bruners_ | horde never defend anything at all |
| 02:15.07 | KriLL3 | other way around |
| 02:15.37 | KriLL3 | most games there is at least 15 or so horde defending first the towers, then FW |
| 02:16.42 | Bruners_ | always 5 alliance defending the bridge |
| 02:17.08 | Repo | 10caesar: 03ssveller 07master * ea30d03 core.lua: [+1 commit] Now correctly hides the chat buttons, and places combat channels on CF6 |
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| 02:17.38 | pakoz | Question:is there a way to make the text inside the polish box smaller in chatter? |
| 02:17.40 | pakoz | http://img119.imageshack.us/my.php?image=74959022xy3.jpg |
| 02:17.50 | KriLL3 | it's not named the polish box |
| 02:17.58 | pakoz | oh |
| 02:18.00 | Cryect | polish box? |
| 02:18.03 | pakoz | text box |
| 02:18.06 | KriLL3 | it's the edit/input box/field |
| 02:18.12 | pakoz | http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=52258784aj7.jpg |
| 02:20.57 | Bruners_ | have they fixed no externals on the curse client yet? |
| 02:20.58 | sztanpet | why do you need altclicktoadditem, blizzard implemented simple right click to add item where appropriate |
| 02:21.17 | sztanpet | dont think so, .14 isnt out yet |
| 02:22.02 | Bruners_ | sztanpet: altclicktoadditem also got a buy a stack feature |
| 02:22.21 | sztanpet | you mean the shift-click thing? |
| 02:23.33 | digmouse | any spell timer working well on wrath? |
| 02:23.35 | Bruners_ | no, alt click buys one stack of the item |
| 02:23.52 | sztanpet | meh |
| 02:23.54 | KriLL3 | digmouse: spelltimer? |
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| 02:24.46 | Bruners_ | sztanpet: other then that its useless:P |
| 02:24.52 | KriLL3 | is it my imagination or can talbuks enter higher water before dismounting you than other mounts? |
| 02:25.06 | digmouse | KriLL3: right, like Classtimer |
| 02:25.10 | sztanpet | depends on the lag really not on the hugeness of it |
| 02:25.15 | Archarodim | digmouse: I think classtimer works |
| 02:25.18 | KriLL3 | I can jump over the rivers in un'goro np on it |
| 02:25.24 | KriLL3 | what's classtimer? |
| 02:25.30 | sztanpet | hmpf, could be though |
| 02:25.34 | Bruners_ | KriLL3: cant you do that on most mounts? |
| 02:25.50 | KriLL3 | Bruners_: using my tiger I'm dismounted each time |
| 02:26.04 | digmouse | Archaodim: the one on wowace which is still the live version> |
| 02:26.06 | Archarodim | KriLL3: (fom its TOC): Timers for Buffs, DOTs, CC effects, etc.. |
| 02:26.08 | KriLL3 | "Working WotLK branch on wowace svn although only rogue and paladin data changed" on classtimer |
| 02:26.11 | digmouse | s/>/?/ |
| 02:26.19 | digmouse | aha |
| 02:26.46 | KriLL3 | Archarodim: doesn't most castbar addons show your offensive debuffs on your target? |
| 02:27.12 | KriLL3 | Quartz does for me, can track my 4 tanking debuffs etc |
| 02:27.23 | Archarodim | the woace versions is the right one: http://www.wowace.com/projects/classtimer/ |
| 02:27.45 | KriLL3 | FFF, mangle, demo roar and lacerate ' |
| 02:28.25 | Archarodim | Spells and debuffs |
| 02:28.47 | Archarodim | I've tried severals and classtimer was the best I found |
| 02:28.57 | KriLL3 | doesn't quartz do the same job more or less? |
| 02:29.22 | Archarodim | I don't know, I haven't tried quartz |
| 02:30.44 | sztanpet | i simply use my unitframes |
| 02:31.16 | KriLL3 | I'm used to having that stuff in down mid, and unitframes top left |
| 02:31.43 | KriLL3 | I've tried multiple times to have unitframes down mid also but my eyes always focus top left when I want to see that info |
| 02:32.13 | KriLL3 | the layout of my UI is more or less identical to the original |
| 02:32.37 | KriLL3 | http://krill3.com/screenshots/WoWScrnShot_100308_210001.jpg |
| 02:34.07 | Zhinjio | 'evenin' folks |
| 02:34.29 | KriLL3 | 'mornin' guy |
| 02:35.02 | Bruners_ | KriLL3: almost looks like mine http://lasseb.tihlde.org/img/images/WoWScrnShot_101008_043346.jpg |
| 02:35.37 | mykx | lol Bruners_: why so huge with omen |
| 02:35.40 | KriLL3 | I need buff bars, my eyes register their duration without the need to focus there, not as important for classes without buffs I guess :> |
| 02:35.50 | mykx | nvm its omen and recount merged |
| 02:37.59 | KriLL3 | would be nice if you got your buffs back on death in pvp, same as pet classes retain their pets |
| 02:38.10 | KriLL3 | only the buffs you can cast on yourself ofc |
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| 02:38.21 | KriLL3 | at least I don't need to buff OoC in LK |
| 02:38.45 | Repo | 10caesar: 03ssveller 07master * 18999c4 core.lua: [+1 commit] Size and placement tweaks |
| 02:40.18 | Repo | 10adolf: 03ssveller 07master * 964d600 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 02:40.18 | Repo | 964d600: Now more verbose, and actually works correctly if run with addons already enabled |
| 02:40.19 | Repo | 74831f0: Updated with my own addon selection |
| 02:40.29 | KriLL3 | cart2_questinfo throws an error if your questlog is empty :z |
| 02:40.40 | quiescens | pick up a quest |
| 02:40.42 | quiescens | nodnod |
| 02:40.43 | KriLL3 | ...face\AddOns\Cartographer_QuestInfo\QuestLogPatch.lua line 39: bad argument #1 to 'match' (string expected, got nil) |
| 02:40.46 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 02:41.07 | KriLL3 | I only do dailies nowadays |
| 02:41.18 | KriLL3 | dropped some old raid related once since I know I'll not ever do them |
| 02:42.13 | KriLL3 | Bruners_: why do you have a quest tracker active in pvp? |
| 02:43.55 | Bruners_ | its always there |
| 02:44.16 | KriLL3 | isn't that annoying? |
| 02:44.23 | Bruners_ | nope |
| 02:44.44 | Bruners_ | i can minimize it if i want to :P |
| 02:44.58 | KriLL3 | I use the default quest tracker but moved so it doesn't clip outside the UI |
| 02:46.18 | Bruners_ | default is crap |
| 02:46.30 | Bruners_ | i like shiny colors |
| 02:46.44 | KriLL3 | well I got doublewide questlog mapped to middle mouse |
| 02:47.05 | KriLL3 | I open it for a split second everytime I want to check my quest status |
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| 02:59.35 | Repo | 10cleanminimap: 03Azxiana * r4 / (2 files in 1 directory): Removed Ace2 dependencies. |
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| 03:13.18 | Repo | 10cartographer_quests: 03chiplss * r98 : Cartographer_Quests: change link to Gratuity-2.0 lib |
| 03:15.54 | Repo | 10adolf: 03ssveller 07master * e081951 core.lua: [+1 commit] Proper way of doing a "verbose mode" |
| 03:17.22 | Bruners_ | will ace2 be updated for wotlk or will all addons be ported to ace3? |
| 03:17.53 | ckknight | ace2 works in wotlk now |
| 03:21.33 | Arrowmaster | and we arent incarge of every addon, we cant just 'port everything to ace3' |
| 03:22.07 | Arrowmaster | goes back to working on midterm |
| 03:23.03 | Aeyan | Arrowmaster, I hear you can hook me up with Bartender5. |
| 03:23.24 | Arrowmaster | aye |
| 03:23.44 | Aeyan | Sweet. |
| 03:23.57 | Arrowmaster | would you like that with or without trojan |
| 03:24.15 | Aeyan | Oh, with, please. |
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| 03:28.56 | Aeyan | I hear LibTrojan makes it go faster |
| 03:31.36 | Bruners_ | Arrowmaster: if ace2 was not going to be changed to work in wotlk, addons would have to be ported to ace3 or rewritten :P |
| 03:32.08 | Arrowmaster | no they would have simply died unless the author of that addon or somebody else choose to rewrite them |
| 03:32.35 | Arrowmaster | and it would be up to that person if they wanted to rewrite it in ace3 or not |
| 03:32.57 | Aeyan | As far I know, Ace2 is in a state of "working fine, but if something comes along in the future and breaks it then no large effort will be made to fix it." |
| 03:33.26 | Arrowmaster | yeah im the only one that made any effort to make it work for wotlk |
| 03:34.18 | Aeyan | It's appreciated |
| 03:34.34 | Xinhuan | anyone in US want to buy blizzcon directtv for me so i can get a polar bear? ^^ |
| 03:35.39 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: not sure but i should have 2 different people ordering it for me already =D |
| 03:35.54 | Xinhuan | i can't find anyone to help :( |
| 03:36.03 | Arrowmaster | no current plans on what to do with the 2nd one if i get 2 |
| 03:36.15 | Xinhuan | sell me |
| 03:37.05 | Bruners_ | blizzcon directtv? |
| 03:37.17 | Bruners_ | is that a tv channel ? |
| 03:38.14 | Xinhuan | if you used blizzard launcher to start wow, you would be able to see it |
| 03:38.22 | Arrowmaster | no, you order blizzcon payperview from directv |
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| 03:39.36 | Bruners_ | Xinhuan: i do but i got it on hide |
| 03:41.05 | Xinhuan | well anyway, still looking for someone to help |
| 03:42.00 | Arrowmaster | well if you dont find anybody to help talk to me in 6-8 weeks |
| 03:42.50 | Arrowmaster | seriously though, trying to finish a midterm before its due tomorrow |
| 03:43.37 | Xinhuan | what is it on |
| 03:44.24 | Arrowmaster | networking |
| 03:44.57 | Arrowmaster | open book, easy stuff |
| 03:45.19 | Arrowmaster | but its late i'm tired, and i was feeling like i was going to throw up earlyer |
| 03:46.21 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: did you get my omen 3 bugreport earlier today? |
| 03:46.39 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 03:47.02 | Xinhuan | the nil index happened to be guidLookup[UnitGUID("target")] |
| 03:47.33 | Yssaril | k |
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| 03:48.03 | Daemoen | hey guys |
| 03:48.44 | Daemoen | got a question for you guys, since you know wow a whole lot better than me :-D. Getting ready to reformat my fiance's xp machine to Fedora.... but we cant find her wow cd's atm. I have heard of people just copying the entire program file directory and moving it over.... would that work? |
| 03:49.00 | Daemoen | so if i burned her WoW directory to dvd and setup wine, should work to run wow, right? |
| 03:49.05 | Daemoen | ( windows died, again ) |
| 03:49.42 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: are you gonna use http://www.wowace.com/projects/ace-gui-3-0-shared-media-widgets/ for omen? |
| 03:50.12 | Xinhuan | what does that do |
| 03:50.17 | WobWork | Daemoen: yes |
| 03:50.36 | Xinhuan | do i even have an existing addon htat uses that? |
| 03:50.44 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: stuff like font dropdown that shows a preview of the font |
| 03:50.51 | WobWork | Daemoen: although I haven't played on wine for a while, so I dunno how easy it'll be to setup |
| 03:50.52 | Yssaril | makes nice widgets for LSM types in yoru config so you can see what you pick |
| 03:51.17 | Xinhuan | maybe then |
| 03:51.47 | Daemoen | WobWork: ok, so we found the wow cds... now im just not sure if its her set or mine, lol |
| 03:51.56 | Daemoen | anyone know of a way of looking up your wow cd keys on your system? |
| 03:51.57 | WobWork | does it matter? |
| 03:52.08 | WobWork | once you've got an account, that's all you need |
| 03:52.22 | WobWork | the keys are just to set up the account |
| 03:52.23 | Daemoen | keep forgetting that its not like LoD, it doesnt match based on cd key |
| 03:52.36 | Daemoen | nods, LOD actually matches on cd key, keep forgetting |
| 03:52.37 | Daemoen | lol |
| 03:52.40 | Daemoen | ty WobWork |
| 03:53.11 | WobWork | no wukkas |
| 03:53.51 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: http://old.wowace.com/wiki/AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets <-- old wiki with the images working |
| 03:53.51 | Xinhuan | Yssaril do you know of any addon that actually uses that? |
| 03:54.19 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: i think kgpanels |
| 03:55.19 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: nope nm honestly i came up with them for a project i never finished :P |
| 03:55.49 | Xinhuan | why do i have it installed if none of my addons uses it? |
| 03:56.07 | quiescens | magic |
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| 03:57.14 | Xinhuan | its not making much sense |
| 03:57.15 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: good question :) |
| 03:57.24 | Yssaril | someone must be using it then :) |
| 03:57.41 | Xinhuan | its even loaded |
| 03:57.47 | Xinhuan | just can't figure out what is using it |
| 03:59.15 | Xinhuan | hmm a quick search reveals Afflicted and Proximo using it |
| 03:59.38 | quiescens | gasp |
| 04:03.00 | Xinhuan | appears there isn't much to using it apart from loading it and specifying |
| 04:03.02 | Xinhuan | dialogControl = 'LSM30_Statusbar', |
| 04:03.06 | Xinhuan | or something like that |
| 04:03.38 | Xinhuan | @ping |
| 04:03.40 | Repo | pong |
| 04:03.56 | Daemoen | has officially decided that his fiance's computer is smoking some really strong shit...... |
| 04:03.58 | Xinhuan | commit reporting is definitely broken |
| 04:05.34 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: pretty much also provides tables for all maojor LSM types so you dont even have to generate/update them yourself |
| 04:06.06 | Xinhuan | Yssaril: values = function() return LSM:List("statusbar") end, |
| 04:06.11 | Xinhuan | isn't much of a generation |
| 04:06.37 | Xinhuan | not very much different from values = AceGUIWidgetLSMlists.statusbar |
| 04:06.44 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: won't work for all of them though (forget why |
| 04:07.45 | Xinhuan | but it does |
| 04:07.53 | Xinhuan | because in the AcGUILSM code |
| 04:07.56 | Xinhuan | its doing the exact same thing |
| 04:08.19 | Xinhuan | for k, v in pairs(Media:List("font")) do |
| 04:08.19 | Xinhuan | rawset(lists.font, v, v) |
| 04:08.19 | Xinhuan | end |
| 04:08.36 | Xinhuan | its just copying the table |
| 04:09.16 | Xinhuan | so at the end of the day, you just duplicate a table from LSM and udpate it with LibSharedMedia_Registered callback |
| 04:09.36 | Xinhuan | when the actual table returned from LSM:List("statusbar") would be the same thing |
| 04:10.42 | Xinhuan | as all List() does is |
| 04:10.43 | Xinhuan | return mediaList[mediatype] |
| 04:10.54 | Xinhuan | it just returns the actual table inside LSM |
| 04:11.05 | Xinhuan | so all i would need is just a pointer to it |
| 04:13.24 | digmouse | why there is only male gnome lock premade :( |
| 04:14.34 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: problem is LSM keys are numbers so they are useless when for acegui since it will return the key so it is easier to just make a table where all keys == values then you can work with the return and be certain you have the correct one |
| 04:15.07 | Xinhuan | you only need a 3 line function to search the table for the balue |
| 04:15.09 | Xinhuan | value |
| 04:15.11 | Xinhuan | and return the key |
| 04:15.22 | Xinhuan | not an issue |
| 04:16.20 | Arrowmaster | you can get a list or a hash from LSM |
| 04:16.57 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: you can get a hash where key == value? |
| 04:17.11 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 04:17.46 | Xinhuan | for k, v in pairs(LSM:List(t)) do if v == value then return k end end |
| 04:17.51 | Arrowmaster | and im going to bed |
| 04:18.01 | Xinhuan | that's how you get the key |
| 04:18.25 | Xinhuan | i don't think there's much benefit to creating a reverse lookup table |
| 04:18.48 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: also cause you can use the widgets using AceGUI straight up then you dont need to feed them anything since they already know all the values |
| 04:19.11 | Xinhuan | you're missing the point |
| 04:19.24 | Xinhuan | if i just put values = LSM:List("statusbar"), |
| 04:19.27 | Xinhuan | that is sufficient |
| 04:19.39 | Xinhuan | because values = would point directly to the table inside LSM |
| 04:19.52 | Xinhuan | which gets updated as addons register their stuff |
| 04:20.03 | Xinhuan | don't even need to register for a callback |
| 04:20.05 | backbone87 | the previews for those widgets are pretty, but if you have a hugh amount of media content, it wastes memory? or are they loaded anyway by wow on startup? |
| 04:20.57 | Xinhuan | wow doesn't actually generate the font in memory until something uses it |
| 04:21.13 | backbone87 | and whats about textures? |
| 04:21.18 | Xinhuan | same |
| 04:21.43 | backbone87 | so when using the widgets all stuff is loaded? |
| 04:21.57 | Yssaril | backbone87: not untill used |
| 04:22.48 | Xinhuan | backbone87: they will only get used when you actually click the dropdown |
| 04:22.52 | Xinhuan | to generate the menuitems |
| 04:23.01 | backbone87 | ok |
| 04:23.51 | backbone87 | then there should be no issue using the widgets? they are pretty comfortable for the user, would be nice to see them :) |
| 04:24.26 | Xinhuan | in any case, i might just switch to using the hash table instead Arrowmaster |
| 04:24.53 | Xinhuan | saves the reverse lookup search |
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| 04:25.27 | Yssaril | hmm will have to go over the widgets and see if i can improve them and maybe get away from even needing a values input |
| 04:25.52 | Xinhuan | LSM itself provides function to return both the hash and list tables |
| 04:26.45 | Xinhuan | the table you "duplicated" does have some value though |
| 04:26.52 | Xinhuan | since your key is the same value as the value |
| 04:27.14 | Xinhuan | i'll think about it later ;p |
| 04:27.32 | backbone87 | whats about the "dialogControl" parameter in the option table? can i do more handy things with it, i dont know about? |
| 04:28.02 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: it made it really easy to implement :) but i will go over it over the weekend |
| 04:28.32 | Xinhuan | it just tells aceGUI to use a particular widget instead of its internal default one |
| 04:29.09 | Xinhuan | anyway brb |
| 04:29.36 | Yssaril | backbone87: only works on input ands select widgets though |
| 04:29.39 | backbone87 | acegui receives the whole table of an element from aceconfig? |
| 04:30.07 | backbone87 | ah ok |
| 04:30.11 | Yssaril | http://old.wowace.com/wiki/AceConfig3 |
| 04:30.28 | backbone87 | there's nothing about "dialogControl" i think ;) |
| 04:31.00 | backbone87 | a down the site |
| 04:31.07 | Yssaril | so if you replace those the replacements must still follow all the rules of input or select since somone my use your table in a comnadline or something other than aceconfig |
| 04:38.46 | Yssaril | night guys |
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| 05:03.36 | digmouse | lol the zhCN translation of Leeeeeeeeeeeroy achievement |
| 05:04.40 | Xinhuan | what is it? |
| 05:05.51 | digmouse | translating back to English it is... "The wiping star!" |
| 05:06.13 | digmouse | or "Superstar of wiping" |
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| 05:25.20 | Trela | Looks like the repositories are down. |
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| 05:38.21 | Xinhuan | repos are up |
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| 05:38.26 | Xinhuan | its the reporting bot that is down |
| 05:38.44 | Zyndrome | "We were also treated to a story of the C'thun "stomach" mechanic and how it was originally planned for the Onyxia encounter." |
| 05:38.45 | Zyndrome | Oo |
| 05:47.58 | Groktar | that would have been interesting |
| 05:50.12 | NightHawkTheSane | "you know guys, i think onyxia's swallowing more this patch" |
| 05:50.40 | Zyndrome | uhm |
| 05:50.45 | Zyndrome | would be too many jokes about it |
| 05:50.49 | Zyndrome | "Onyxia swallows!" |
| 05:50.54 | Groktar | hehe |
| 05:51.16 | Groktar | i laughed hysterically when blizzard admitted that after one patch she really did deep breathe more |
| 05:52.23 | Groktar | sets fire to Zyndrome's hair |
| 05:53.15 | Zyndrome | had a haircut yesterday |
| 05:54.01 | Groktar | didn't set fire to the hair on Zyndrome's head |
| 05:54.41 | Zyndrome | and soon enough I'll get a bald spot, just like my father |
| 05:54.46 | orionshock | anyone know of a good addon that does alt-main linking? |
| 05:55.07 | Groktar | thought baldness came from the maternal grandfather? |
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| 05:56.14 | Trela | I am just getting connection closed unexpectedly. o.o; |
| 05:56.25 | Thrae | Yes, baldness comes from the mother's side. If your maternal grandfather is bald, you will probably be bald. And mine's 80 with all of his hair. |
| 05:56.36 | orionshock | Trela: u got to add you key to the ssh stash |
| 05:57.04 | Trela | Oh bah, it probably deleted itself when I restarted. :( |
| 05:57.07 | Groktar | mine was bald by the time he was 30 |
| 05:57.09 | Groktar | :( |
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| 06:01.05 | Zyndrome | fakk it |
| 06:01.14 | Zyndrome | shoots bald-rays in all directions |
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| 06:29.32 | orionshock | is there a "dropdown-textbox" for Ace3GUI? |
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| 06:30.30 | nevcairiel | dropdown-textbox? |
| 06:30.33 | nevcairiel | a combobox? |
| 06:30.40 | Groktar | buries nevcairiel under orionshock's abba collection |
| 06:30.56 | nevcairiel | don't you sleep, ever <.< |
| 06:31.04 | Groktar | me? |
| 06:31.16 | Groktar | it's 11:30pm local... |
| 06:31.18 | orionshock | nevcairiel: ya |
| 06:31.33 | orionshock | where you can type something in or select it from a drop down |
| 06:31.46 | nevcairiel | no the dropdown doesnt support combobox behaviour |
| 06:32.09 | nevcairiel | open a ticket and it might get done, however not for AceConfigDialog, only AceGUI |
| 06:32.40 | orionshock | nevcairiel: lame :P |
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| 07:03.23 | Elkano | t-1h for my AI exam :/ |
| 07:03.58 | nevcairiel | I just started my AI class yesterday, heh |
| 07:06.36 | Xinhuan | lua> a = {1, 2} a[0] = 0 print(#a) |
| 07:06.37 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 2 |
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| 07:07.12 | nevcairiel | i wouldn't count on that behaviour if you start modifying the table with other tools Xinhuan =P |
| 07:07.44 | nevcairiel | the array-tables get broken so fast if you do something that they aren't design to do .. :/ |
| 07:07.55 | nevcairiel | *designed |
| 07:08.13 | Xinhuan | the table will only be indexed from 1 to N |
| 07:08.20 | Xinhuan | with [0] holding special info |
| 07:08.21 | Elkano | well, mine was a block course during "lecture-free time" ^^' |
| 07:08.27 | Xinhuan | there will be no holes in this table as well |
| 07:08.37 | Xinhuan | so using # should be fine |
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| 07:13.09 | Zyndrome | :C |
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| 07:15.49 | mitch0 | yo |
| 07:16.17 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r109 localizations/localization-frFR.lua: update frFR to work ... |
| 07:18.21 | Trela | wonders what sick of clicking dailies does. |
| 07:18.42 | Aeyan | Autoaccepts and autoturnins |
| 07:19.10 | Aeyan | Or maybe it was only autoaccept |
| 07:19.25 | falconindy | nope, it'll do everything for you as long as you pick the right quest mob |
| 07:19.34 | Trela | Mmm, sexy. |
| 07:19.41 | falconindy | indeed |
| 07:21.17 | Trela | Now that I fixed my permissions issues with the repository, it all works happily! |
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| 07:29.31 | Neffi | Can somebody help me? I'm looking to get the mana cost of a spell, and the game doesn't want to give it to me... |
| 07:29.49 | mitch0 | doesn't GetSpellInfo return it? |
| 07:30.03 | Neffi | I tried calling GetSpellInfo ( GetSpellLink(name,rank) ) and got nothing. Then I tried GetSpellInfo on its global ID and got an error that it's an invalid spell slot. |
| 07:30.23 | Neffi | Wowwiki says GetSpellInfo takes a spellID |
| 07:30.43 | Neffi | The first thing was strange. The spell is in my spellbook, but GetSpellInfo on the spell link returns nothing |
| 07:31.16 | mitch0 | don't confuse the spellId with the spellindex |
| 07:31.38 | mitch0 | GetSpellInfo() expects the spellid as you can see on wowhead, for example |
| 07:31.40 | Neffi | I'm not |
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| 07:31.55 | mitch0 | what spell is it? |
| 07:31.57 | Neffi | I got the spellID from searching the spell link as the game gave it to me |
| 07:32.01 | Neffi | Healing Touch rank 4 |
| 07:32.09 | Neffi | 5188 id |
| 07:32.49 | mitch0 | neffi: are you passing that spellId as a number or as a string? |
| 07:32.54 | Neffi | I tried both |
| 07:32.55 | mitch0 | (you should pass it as a number) |
| 07:33.07 | Trela | If I am reading this correctly, when we tag a repository that tag only applies to the next package that is built and none after that, correct? |
| 07:33.08 | mitch0 | then it should work... |
| 07:33.22 | mitch0 | trela: tags will be kept |
| 07:33.27 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:33.31 | Trela | Ah, thank you. |
| 07:33.46 | Trela | Is there a way to punch the tags and remove them? |
| 07:33.55 | mitch0 | svn rm |
| 07:33.57 | Neffi | GetSpellInfo: invalid spell slot |
| 07:34.07 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: so you're 100% positive that LoD Libs won't load in the current 3.0 build? (I'm building a script to remove all LoadOnDemand tags from libs) |
| 07:34.33 | Trela | Tanks. :O |
| 07:34.54 | ckknight | nevcairiel: I thought it was only for libs that don't have Interface: 30000 |
| 07:34.59 | mitch0 | neffi: are you sure "spell" is 5188 before the getspellinfo call? |
| 07:35.13 | Neffi | I tested that too |
| 07:35.19 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:35.22 | nevcairiel | ckknight: apparently Xinhuan has some test case that proves otherwise |
| 07:35.30 | ckknight | I could be wrong |
| 07:35.39 | Xinhuan | i have a post |
| 07:35.44 | nevcairiel | (thats what i thought too, but Xinhuan insited :P) |
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| 07:36.02 | nevcairiel | +s |
| 07:36.03 | Xinhuan | ckknight: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10971929880&sid=1 |
| 07:36.09 | mitch0 | neffi: test again. it should work |
| 07:36.16 | Xinhuan | the TOC number is irrelevant |
| 07:36.22 | Neffi | I'm testing it over and over as we speak |
| 07:36.30 | Neffi | That script verbatim, and an error |
| 07:37.03 | mitch0 | extract the spellid as a number before the call, and print that out |
| 07:37.09 | orionshock | Aeyan: it'll pick up and turn in daily quests only. |
| 07:37.21 | mitch0 | as in, local spellid = tonumber(spell) Print(tostring(spellid)) |
| 07:37.33 | mitch0 | just to be sure the conversion is OK |
| 07:37.37 | Aeyan | That's fine, I don't use it myself. =P |
| 07:37.38 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, there are really only 2 solutions to it, solution 1 is to remove all LoD tags from standalone libs, solution 2 is to force LoadAddOn() at the top of all addons/libs on optdeps |
| 07:37.55 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: the second one is no solution |
| 07:38.04 | TNSe | >_< |
| 07:38.05 | Xinhuan | but i'm trying to get a blue response to see if its a bug or a design change |
| 07:38.23 | Xinhuan | would you like to test my zip package to see if you get the same behavior in the EU beta client? |
| 07:39.02 | Neffi | Fuck it. Concatenating name..'('..rank..')' works, so I don't even care. >> |
| 07:39.19 | mitch0 | ;) |
| 07:39.42 | mitch0 | neffi: but it's a static config thing, then don't list spellnames, rather list the ids directly |
| 07:39.49 | mitch0 | to avoid localization issues |
| 07:39.52 | Xinhuan | right now AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets (non-lod) is failing to work completely because LibSharedMedia-3.0 is LoD |
| 07:40.00 | Neffi | It's to show mana cost in relation to my mana bar upon casting |
| 07:40.14 | Neffi | ckknight: By the way, ever think of adding that to PitBull? |
| 07:40.26 | Xinhuan | unless i insert LoadAddOn("LibSharedMedia-3.0") into the top of AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets.lua |
| 07:40.35 | Xinhuan | or remove LoD from LSM |
| 07:40.47 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: changing all wowace libs to non-lod is rather trivial, i already wrote a set of scripts to checkout all libs, do changes, and recommit which i used yesterday to virtually inflate all revision numbers of all libs .. i just have to replace the regex part =P |
| 07:40.59 | Xinhuan | aha |
| 07:41.10 | Xinhuan | did you change anything to threat-2.0? |
| 07:41.14 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 07:41.19 | Xinhuan | what did you modify? |
| 07:41.20 | nevcairiel | same treatment as all libs |
| 07:41.39 | Xinhuan | because i already artificially changed the number in one of the files to r90000 |
| 07:41.46 | nevcairiel | local MINOR_VERSION = 90000 + tonumber(("$Revision: 7 $"):match("%d+")) |
| 07:41.50 | orionshock | what +8000 to all rev numbers |
| 07:42.06 | Xinhuan | should be fine then |
| 07:42.20 | Xinhuan | did you commit it back with SVN:Keywords |
| 07:42.28 | Xinhuan | on all files? |
| 07:42.31 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 07:43.18 | Xinhuan | i'll like it if blizz responds to my post before we do any wide changes to remove LoD tags |
| 07:43.46 | TNSe | ugh |
| 07:44.06 | TNSe | guess I should start my addon scavenger hunt by now |
| 07:45.44 | TNSe | is fubar getting 3.0'ed? :P |
| 07:46.11 | Neffi | It won't likely break TNSe |
| 07:46.17 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: blizz is at blizzcon =P |
| 07:46.26 | Xinhuan | zz |
| 07:46.27 | TNSe | so not much changes in 3.0 for ui? |
| 07:46.30 | Neffi | There aren't many changes being made that would affect it, at least I don't think so |
| 07:46.41 | sb|work | morning |
| 07:46.51 | TNSe | what are the major changes for addons in 3.0? |
| 07:46.54 | Neffi | It's not going to be like the 2.0 change that broke pretty much everything. It's just like any other path. |
| 07:46.56 | Neffi | patch* |
| 07:47.00 | TNSe | thank god |
| 07:47.02 | sb|work | is there any news on incscription (benefits for having the profession) |
| 07:47.03 | sb|work | ? |
| 07:47.06 | Neffi | Some "major" changes, but not sweeping breaks |
| 07:47.14 | sb|work | still no sign of additional glyph slot :/ |
| 07:47.22 | JY` | free hearthstone |
| 07:47.59 | nevcairiel | sb|work: it changes from 3/3 to 4/2, no additional slot |
| 07:48.17 | sb|work | nevcairiel: ah okay, and thats confirmed? :p |
| 07:48.41 | nevcairiel | i think so |
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| 07:50.42 | TNSe | so what addons are known to break horribly (not talking specific names, just addon functionality) |
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| 07:50.56 | nevcairiel | TNSe: action bars |
| 07:51.13 | TNSe | so that means, I who use default action bars with macros wont have any problems? |
| 07:51.39 | nevcairiel | right |
| 07:51.44 | profalbert | Unitframes, Buff/debuff-stuff |
| 07:51.52 | sb|work | wws *cry* |
| 07:51.53 | TNSe | ouch |
| 07:51.55 | Repo | 10closet-gnome: 03Rabbit * r564 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 07:51.56 | Repo | Update the LDB display on login to display the set we have equipped. |
| 07:51.58 | TNSe | x-perl will break? |
| 07:52.05 | nevcairiel | i bet it was fixed already |
| 07:52.06 | profalbert | x-perl is fixed i think |
| 07:52.34 | profalbert | http://www.wowwiki.com/WotLK_AddOn_status |
| 07:52.57 | TNSe | wont wowwiki be stopped in 5 days? :P |
| 07:53.28 | profalbert | did I miss something? |
| 07:53.29 | TNSe | wait |
| 07:53.30 | TNSe | wowwiki |
| 07:53.31 | TNSe | wowace |
| 07:53.32 | TNSe | lol |
| 07:53.34 | TNSe | nvm |
| 07:53.38 | profalbert | oh, heh |
| 07:55.01 | TNSe | makes a 3.0 interface folder for next week. |
| 07:55.13 | TNSe | or can I in theory just copy my interface to the beta |
| 07:55.28 | TNSe | and make sure things work there and just copy back when it goes live |
| 07:55.39 | TNSe | s/beta/ptr |
| 07:56.08 | Antiarc | ATTN: This is an important political announcement. |
| 07:56.09 | Antiarc | http://www.flickr.com/photos/glark/94911493/ |
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| 07:59.50 | TNSe | daym |
| 07:59.56 | TNSe | drdamage doesnt work on 3.0 even for level 70? |
| 08:00.12 | TNSe | what the hell am I gonna read when I'm bored ingame then |
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| 08:03.09 | Neffi | Isn't the entire secure frame system being reworked? |
| 08:03.14 | Neffi | Unit frames should break horribly too |
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| 08:05.20 | TNSe | hrm |
| 08:06.08 | TNSe | I used to have custom action bars, but somewhere around 2.0, I stopped, and went over to macros. Glad for that now :P |
| 08:06.35 | Neffi | ~seen Nymbia |
| 08:06.37 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@c-67-190-49-185.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 4h 19m 35s ago, saying: 'http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/repository-faq/#w_how-does-the-packager-know-whether-a-tag-is-a-release-or-a-beta'. |
| 08:06.51 | Neffi | Does anyone know if she plans to update SpellBinder? |
| 08:07.53 | Repo | 10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana 041.6 Release * r49 : Tagging as 1.6 Release. |
| 08:09.07 | Repo | 10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana * r50 / (3 files in 1 directory): Tidied up layouts. |
| 08:09.08 | Repo | Moved Rock options to options.lua. |
| 08:09.08 | Repo | Removed some old commented code. |
| 08:12.00 | mitch0 | neffi: is it broken? |
| 08:12.18 | Neffi | YEah |
| 08:12.22 | mitch0 | damn |
| 08:12.26 | Neffi | On the beta, not sure if they changed something on the PTR |
| 08:12.31 | mitch0 | well, spellbinder is kinda simple, so I bet anyone could update it |
| 08:12.46 | Neffi | It glitches and the bind window doesn't work 'cause of the changes to button API |
| 08:13.01 | Neffi | Should actually be real simple to update >> |
| 08:13.09 | mitch0 | do it then ;) |
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| 08:16.20 | Neffi | I don't remember my SVN password or any of that shit |
| 08:16.25 | Neffi | Plus I'm lazy as hell |
| 08:16.34 | orionshock | Neffi: you don't have one anymore |
| 08:16.43 | Neffi | :( |
| 08:16.57 | Neffi | Why don't I? |
| 08:17.05 | orionshock | login to your wowace/curse account go to "My WoWace" and then repository auth section |
| 08:17.13 | Neffi | Ah, okay |
| 08:17.20 | orionshock | Neffi: they got revoked when we moved |
| 08:17.47 | Fisker- | kisses orionshock |
| 08:18.14 | Neffi | How does LibHealComm-3.0 gather incoming heal data? Does it scan unit casting for it, or rely on addon messages? |
| 08:18.17 | orionshock | starts to wonder about Fisker-, is he a bot or ghay ? |
| 08:18.30 | orionshock | Neffi: both i think, or just addon data |
| 08:18.46 | orionshock | sorry Fisker- im not your type :\ |
| 08:18.47 | Neffi | So, other people have to run it to get incoming data? |
| 08:18.57 | orionshock | Neffi: correct |
| 08:19.02 | Neffi | Ahh, that's why |
| 08:19.16 | Neffi | I recoded a little personal addon and it wouldn't work when I tested it :( |
| 08:19.25 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 08:19.26 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give thul a big kiss on the neck |
| 08:19.28 | Trela | stabs the Repo man. |
| 08:19.50 | orionshock | ? |
| 08:20.53 | Trela | I have to delete my 1.6 Release files "flag-rsp2: Azxiana 1.6 Release * r49 : Tagging as 1.6 Release." because I tagged before committing and now it will not let me reuse the tag. |
| 08:20.57 | Trela | *I had to |
| 08:21.18 | nevcairiel | thats to be expected |
| 08:21.25 | nevcairiel | tags should never ever change |
| 08:21.31 | Fisker- | btw |
| 08:21.34 | nevcairiel | guess you'll have to increment version :P |
| 08:21.45 | Fisker- | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/october/blizzcon/blizzcon_001.jpg <-complimentary shampoo? :P |
| 08:21.54 | Trela | Absolutely not! I will come up with a solution! |
| 08:22.18 | Neffi | wtf |
| 08:22.31 | Trela | The sword thing is pretty funny. |
| 08:22.33 | nevcairiel | Trela: it will never repack your 1.6 tag, even if you manage to change it, the .zip will not update |
| 08:22.52 | Fisker- | doh |
| 08:22.59 | Fisker- | There's a blizzard authenticator there as well |
| 08:23.09 | Fisker- | Anyone outside the US is technically not allowed to have it |
| 08:23.22 | Fisker- | reports Blizzard for treason |
| 08:23.27 | nevcairiel | why not? =P |
| 08:23.49 | Trela | They use the exact same authenticator for Europe. |
| 08:23.49 | Fisker- | Because you're not allowed to export cryptography |
| 08:24.02 | Trela | Europe actually got it first. |
| 08:24.21 | Neffi | Fisker-: seriously? |
| 08:24.26 | Neffi | You aren't? |
| 08:24.30 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: depends on the strength of the algorithm |
| 08:24.38 | Fisker- | Yeah anything above "Piss-weak" |
| 08:24.46 | Fisker- | That means ~everything still |
| 08:25.19 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, did you test my LoD zip? |
| 08:25.24 | nevcairiel | Neffi: they had the PGP code printed out as a book (with all published and everything), then that shipped out to the world, and typed-off, because thats allowed :P |
| 08:25.35 | Repo | 10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana 041.6 Release WotLK * r51 : Tagging as 1.6 Release WotLK. |
| 08:25.44 | Trela | HA OWNED. |
| 08:25.46 | Fisker- | It's kinda silly really |
| 08:25.56 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: yeah, apparently only loads B |
| 08:26.04 | Fisker- | The law only exists because of world war 2 i believe |
| 08:26.18 | Fisker- | It was to ensure that the enemy couldn't decrypt your sekrits |
| 08:26.24 | Fisker- | Back when encryption were shit |
| 08:26.24 | Fisker- | :P |
| 08:27.16 | Trela | Exactly. |
| 08:27.38 | Trela | is trying to decrypt a 2048-bit key at the moment. |
| 08:29.58 | Fisker- | decrypts nevcairiel and keeps his secrets |
| 08:30.10 | Fisker- | Btw |
| 08:30.13 | Fisker- | I need to whine |
| 08:30.21 | Fisker- | EU: "ZOMG AUTHENTICATOR BUY BUY" |
| 08:30.27 | Fisker- | US: "Sure why not have one on the house?" |
| 08:30.28 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 08:30.28 | Trela | I have the key and the message to be decrypted, but I just do not know how to get the key back into the actual key form. |
| 08:30.42 | Trela | Ignore me~ |
| 08:33.02 | Antiarc | Fisker-: Hand sanitizer. |
| 08:33.24 | Fisker- | for what? |
| 08:33.31 | Fisker- | Morhaine: "Introducing new game" |
| 08:33.33 | Fisker- | *fap fap fap* |
| 08:34.08 | Antiarc | Fisker-: I don't think I'd want to be shaking too many hands at blizzcon unsanitized. I mean. -Nerd cooties- |
| 08:36.22 | Fisker- | YAY! |
| 08:36.26 | Fisker- | I've gotten an E-Card! |
| 08:36.33 | Fisker- | I just have to download this ecard.exe file |
| 08:36.51 | Fisker- | btw you at blizzcon Antiarc ? |
| 08:37.00 | Antiarc | No :( |
| 08:37.08 | Antiarc | My wife is having a kid sometime in the next four days |
| 08:37.31 | Fisker- | rats |
| 08:37.34 | Fisker- | err grats :P |
| 08:39.27 | TNSe | lol Antiarc |
| 08:39.35 | TNSe | way to screw up timing :P |
| 08:39.54 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 08:39.57 | Fisker- | 3.1 already done? |
| 08:40.11 | TNSe | wow 3.1? |
| 08:40.14 | Fisker- | Probably not the best choice of words |
| 08:40.16 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 08:40.20 | TNSe | probably wotlk |
| 08:40.23 | Fisker- | 3.1 -- the first major content patch of the expansion, which is already done according to Kaplan -- will release the Ulduar 10 and 25-person raid instances |
| 08:40.30 | TNSe | woot |
| 08:40.32 | TNSe | hm |
| 08:40.38 | TNSe | that would be bt/hyjal for tbc |
| 08:41.39 | TNSe | "first you gotta kill sapphiron 2 man in 25 man naxx, then you gotta find a raredrop from a mob that spawns every 10 minutes." |
| 08:42.00 | TNSe | <3 attunements before they find them viable for everyone |
| 08:42.15 | TNSe | "woohoo, vial of the sunwell" |
| 08:42.19 | TNSe | "what do you mean there were only 3" |
| 08:42.23 | Fisker- | We were also treated to a tour of the Blizzard campus, but unfortunately weren't allowed into any of the development area as the World of Warcraft team is already working on something new. Kaplan mentioned that they're always 3 patch cycles ahead of the live game in terms of content design, as well as typically working on the next expansion. Take that for what you will! |
| 08:42.24 | Fisker- | lulz |
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| 08:42.43 | TNSe | wouldn't surprise me |
| 08:42.50 | TNSe | mondays: fix old content |
| 08:42.56 | TNSe | rest of week, worko n new stuff |
| 08:46.03 | Fisker- | why must people fail though |
| 08:46.06 | Fisker- | "ZOMG NEW GAEM?" |
| 08:46.21 | TNSe | lol |
| 08:46.25 | TNSe | you know |
| 08:46.26 | Fisker- | Yeah we already knew that ??? years ago when they started hiring for "next-gen mmo's" |
| 08:46.29 | TNSe | thats one of the things I like about wow |
| 08:46.36 | TNSe | that it ISNT the same game as it was 3 years ago |
| 08:46.47 | TNSe | yet, its the same people (more or less) |
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| 08:47.26 | Zyndrome | Blizzcon in a few hours, shit is gonna hit the fan |
| 08:47.36 | TNSe | wheres the lievstreem |
| 08:47.36 | Fisker- | "few"? |
| 08:47.41 | Fisker- | It's in 9 hours |
| 08:47.46 | Fisker- | There is no live stream |
| 08:47.56 | TNSe | WHAT? |
| 08:48.02 | TNSe | massive fail |
| 08:48.12 | TNSe | Antiarc, is it gonna be a boy or girl? :P |
| 08:48.16 | orionshock | is the Hand of Ad'al title tied to BT or MH attunement? |
| 08:48.27 | Antiarc | Boy! |
| 08:48.28 | Fisker- | BT attunement |
| 08:48.40 | Fisker- | But i guess that means it's both |
| 08:48.40 | TNSe | hand of ad'al? |
| 08:48.41 | Zyndrome | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/october/blizzcon/blizzcon_024.jpg |
| 08:48.42 | Zyndrome | :( |
| 08:48.46 | TNSe | thats killing magtheridon |
| 08:48.49 | Fisker- | Dunno for sure as i already had MH attunement done |
| 08:48.58 | TNSe | so TK attunement |
| 08:49.00 | Fisker- | Isn't that champion of the naaru? |
| 08:49.34 | TNSe | I dont have either because the week we were gonna kill magtheridon to attune for ssc, they removed attunement :P |
| 08:49.36 | Fisker- | The title of Hand of A'dal is obtainable as of Patch 2.4.0 to players who complete, or have completed, the attunement quests for Mount Hyjal (The Vials of Eternity) and Black Temple ([Medallion of Karabor]). Like Champion of the Naaru (the other attunement reward title), this will appear after the player's name, so it will appear something like this: |
| 08:49.38 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 08:49.47 | TNSe | then I should have hand of adal title |
| 08:49.50 | TNSe | as I've killed both |
| 08:49.58 | TNSe | and got the teleport medallion |
| 08:50.00 | TNSe | weird shit |
| 08:50.10 | Fisker- | You need to complete the attunement quest for MH |
| 08:50.18 | Fisker- | Not just kill kael and vashj |
| 08:50.18 | TNSe | I have completed that |
| 08:50.24 | TNSe | I got the best ring |
| 08:50.28 | TNSe | the neck |
| 08:50.35 | TNSe | no title lol |
| 08:50.40 | profalbert | TNSe: maybe you also need completed BT-attunement? |
| 08:50.48 | TNSe | I should get a pug to magtheridon |
| 08:50.49 | Fisker- | Try ticketting a GM |
| 08:50.53 | TNSe | just to get the attunement done |
| 08:51.30 | TNSe | back when SSC got opened my guild was slacking bigtime on getting people attuned, and we quit magtheridon the day ssc/tk was opened for everyone |
| 08:52.02 | TNSe | I'm sure there's gonna be some annoying attunement shit for ulduar |
| 08:52.20 | Fisker- | They've removed attunements |
| 08:52.24 | TNSe | similar to bt/hyjal, and they are gonna accidentally drop 1-3 attument pieces/reset to start with XD |
| 08:52.38 | [SW]Dodge | oh noes, moar prepatch o.o |
| 08:52.49 | Fisker- | MOATR |
| 08:52.50 | Fisker- | MOAR |
| 08:53.04 | Fisker- | wtb Stage 4 |
| 08:53.26 | [SW]Dodge | stage 4? |
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| 08:54.03 | Fisker- | "Downloading wow-blabla-Stage3" |
| 08:54.06 | Fisker- | I want stage 4 >:3 |
| 08:54.14 | Repo | 10cleanminimap: 03Azxiana * r6 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added FuBar icon. |
| 08:54.35 | [SW]Dodge | ah, i didnt read what it is downloading^^ |
| 08:58.21 | sb|work | oh, stage 3!? so we could really have patchday next week :p |
| 08:58.27 | [SW]Dodge | yea |
| 09:02.09 | Fisker- | Infact Patch 3.1 is done, so they might as well have patched a month ago! |
| 09:02.10 | Fisker- | :D |
| 09:03.50 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 09:03.55 | Fisker- | The preload seems to be fucked actually |
| 09:04.13 | Fisker- | Looks like it links to the mac specific patch |
| 09:04.19 | TNSe | so patch 3.1 is done |
| 09:04.22 | Fisker- | so it doesn't download anything |
| 09:04.24 | TNSe | yet, half the priest talents are bugged |
| 09:04.32 | TNSe | and deep end of holy tree is a train wreck |
| 09:04.53 | Fisker- | Same with holy paladins |
| 09:04.58 | Fisker- | regarding the train wreck anyways |
| 09:05.10 | TNSe | its kinda hillarious |
| 09:05.19 | TNSe | priests have holy concentration, which was a pretty awesome talent |
| 09:05.34 | TNSe | it gave a free spell from now and then, increasing efficiency |
| 09:05.49 | TNSe | in wotlk they thought it would be a good idea to unbind the free spell from randomness, to uh, mroe randomness |
| 09:05.55 | TNSe | you can now only get free spells after a crit. |
| 09:06.02 | TNSe | whichis coincidentally when you need it the least |
| 09:06.18 | TNSe | as you just put up 50% more healing than needed and inspiration on the target |
| 09:06.26 | quiescens | eh |
| 09:06.30 | quiescens | a free heal is a free heal |
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| 09:06.36 | TNSe | yes, which is why its not so bad |
| 09:06.41 | TNSe | the kicker is |
| 09:06.47 | TNSe | they added a new talent called improved holy concentration |
| 09:06.54 | TNSe | which increases the haste of your next 2 heals with 30% |
| 09:07.04 | TNSe | so basically, you get a free heal thats 30% faster |
| 09:07.05 | Fisker- | I remember hearing something about another pass on some classes |
| 09:07.10 | quiescens | well yeah that I suppose |
| 09:07.12 | Fisker- | Yet it doesn't even seem like paladins got one pass |
| 09:07.14 | TNSe | AFTER a crit |
| 09:07.16 | quiescens | but with regards to mana |
| 09:07.17 | Fisker- | atleast not the holy tree |
| 09:07.27 | TNSe | so you eat up the mana you just gained from a free crit |
| 09:07.33 | TNSe | so the 2 talents nearly eliminate eachother |
| 09:07.40 | TNSe | one icnreases efficiency, other throughput |
| 09:07.51 | quiescens | you don't have to cast them immediately if you weren't going to need it |
| 09:07.58 | TNSe | also both talents are very weak unless you have a significant amount of crit |
| 09:08.02 | Fisker- | Get 100% crit and it'll be pretty awesome |
| 09:08.03 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 09:08.05 | TNSe | they dont last forever quiescens... |
| 09:08.15 | quiescens | 20 seconds is plenty of time to cast 2 heals |
| 09:08.15 | TNSe | thats the thing Fisker-... |
| 09:08.19 | TNSe | they aren't 100% proc chance |
| 09:08.24 | TNSe | they are 45% proc chance on a crit |
| 09:08.24 | Fisker- | :E |
| 09:08.36 | TNSe | on top of this |
| 09:08.39 | Fisker- | Then you should get 210% crit! |
| 09:08.40 | Fisker- | :D |
| 09:08.50 | TNSe | we got a talent that gives 50% chance for afree flash heal on a yes, ANOTHER CRIT |
| 09:08.53 | TNSe | which cannot crit |
| 09:09.01 | TNSe | so we get a free spell that cannot proc our other talents |
| 09:09.12 | TNSe | and it eats 1 haste charge |
| 09:09.21 | TNSe | so, WHAT THE FUCK? |
| 09:09.35 | quiescens | you have to cast heals regardless anyway, so eventually one of them crits, and procs holy concentration, then your next 2 heals within 20 seconds are free? |
| 09:09.43 | TNSe | no |
| 09:09.44 | TNSe | next 1 |
| 09:09.46 | TNSe | next 2 are hasted |
| 09:10.04 | TNSe | next spell within 10 seconds is free, next 2 within 20 are 30% hasted |
| 09:10.33 | TNSe | top of holy tree is a trainwreck |
| 09:10.36 | TNSe | but then there is serendipity |
| 09:10.40 | TNSe | 25% of mana on overheal back |
| 09:10.51 | TNSe | which is like, almost as good as meditation |
| 09:10.57 | TNSe | which hoyl needs to go 13 points into disc for |
| 09:11.05 | TNSe | meaning, the top of holy tree is not getting used |
| 09:11.13 | TNSe | its just ... horrid. |
| 09:11.35 | TNSe | imagine having to go 13 points into prot to get illumination |
| 09:11.40 | TNSe | thats how stupid priest talents are now |
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| 09:12.42 | TNSe | but worst part is |
| 09:13.05 | TNSe | when you get elemental oath/moonkin aura + totem of wrath/other 3% spell crit, and get that extra 8% crit |
| 09:13.10 | TNSe | those said talents start working decently |
| 09:13.22 | TNSe | its just that no priest at 70 will have the gear to make it work |
| 09:13.52 | TNSe | (although I will, as I still have my old shadow gear, which incidentally is better for healing at 70 than the healing set.) |
| 09:14.03 | mykx | mm it's been 7 minutes since someone else typed buddy may want to go to sleep or something you're typing to yourself |
| 09:14.10 | TNSe | I'm ranting :P |
| 09:14.56 | mykx | :) |
| 09:15.30 | TNSe | its just that they tried to make crit good for holy |
| 09:15.39 | TNSe | by slapping it onto all 'proc' talents we had |
| 09:16.11 | TNSe | and instead of giving them independant chance to crit based on our holy crit chance, they made it proc ON crits. |
| 09:16.16 | TNSe | thats my issue :P |
| 09:16.53 | mykx | I dunno why you have issues, honestly I truely think priests will be the best healers in wotlk |
| 09:17.09 | TNSe | they will, but not because of talents |
| 09:17.15 | TNSe | the base toolbox is just that good >_< |
| 09:17.21 | mykx | raid wide CoH = win |
| 09:17.30 | TNSe | dont think coh will be the killer it was in tbc |
| 09:17.58 | mykx | for all the bad priests out there, they don't even have to change target just press coh within range and people get topped up |
| 09:18.05 | TNSe | yup |
| 09:18.36 | mykx | with pretty crappy gear I was doing 3,200HPS in karazhan solo healing on ptr |
| 09:18.38 | Repo | 10fu-bar_who-roll-fu: 03profalbert 07master * 01415f3 / (9 files in 3 directories): [new] |
| 09:19.02 | TNSe | thats the thing, coh will be awesome for TOPPING off in wotlk... it wont be like it is in sunwell now |
| 09:19.22 | mykx | I dunno, we'll have to wait and see :) |
| 09:19.38 | TNSe | it doesnt scale as much as our other heals |
| 09:19.41 | TNSe | in base healing |
| 09:19.42 | sb|work | need innervates then :p |
| 09:19.50 | sb|work | all of them! :p |
| 09:19.56 | TNSe | and it will relatively eat more mana than now |
| 09:21.58 | TNSe | but yeah, priests will still rock :P |
| 09:25.16 | sb|work | ofc they will! |
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| 09:38.03 | Trela | Is there a sand boxing AddOn for WoW? I mean one where you can code directly in WoW for testing before putting the changes into the AddOns and having to constantly reload the interface. |
| 09:38.18 | Trela | Otherwise I am going to make one! |
| 09:38.45 | profalbert | wowlua? |
| 09:39.02 | Adirelle|work | there is something like luapad |
| 09:39.13 | profalbert | Trela: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7366-WowLua.html maybe |
| 09:39.13 | Trela | looks them up! |
| 09:39.51 | Trela | That is sexy. |
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| 10:11.10 | Trela | finds a comment from OrionShock. :O http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=12484 |
| 10:11.48 | Trela | takes notes. |
| 10:12.09 | orionshock | Trela: no, just no... |
| 10:12.12 | orionshock | i don't RP |
| 10:12.43 | Trela | Yet want to modify a role playing AddOn? =o.o= |
| 10:14.16 | orionshock | i didn't "modify" one, i created one. |
| 10:14.25 | orionshock | it's on my google svn atm |
| 10:15.00 | Trela | Where is that? |
| 10:15.28 | Trela | mumbles something about the communication protocol and stabs it. |
| 10:15.41 | quiescens | so violent |
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| 10:16.32 | kilrogg | mornin |
| 10:16.48 | orionshock | http://code.google.com/p/shock-wow/source/browse/#svn/trunk/IRolePlay |
| 10:17.00 | orionshock | there might be some latent syntax errors |
| 10:17.34 | thul | I read "some latex errors" |
| 10:17.39 | thul | i need to get my head out of the gutter :-P |
| 10:17.40 | Trela | Hello Kilrogg~ |
| 10:17.43 | Trela | Hehehehe. |
| 10:19.02 | Trela | I really want FRSP2 to be compatible with some thing along the lines of TinyTip or CowTip, but I can never seem to modify those tooltips with out having to rewrite the other AddOn. |
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| 10:20.14 | orionshock | Trela: it's all a hack |
| 10:20.19 | Trela | I personally do not use either so it becomes tedious to test. |
| 10:20.41 | Trela | GameTooltip blows. |
| 10:21.06 | Trela | FRSP2 originally hacked at the GameTooltip to input the data, but now it clears the GTT and rewrites it completely. |
| 10:21.10 | orionshock | Trela: i think the method i used in IRP works with cow tip.. |
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| 10:21.50 | Trela | It should, it just adds it all to the bottom. |
| 10:21.56 | thul | http://cgi.ebay.com/Own-your-own-country-Republic-of-Iceland-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ140274186645QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item140274186645&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_1502wt_0 |
| 10:22.18 | orionshock | actually no, it does modify the first line |
| 10:22.48 | Trela | Well, yes, that will work as well. |
| 10:23.10 | orionshock | god looking over that code looks so hackish |
| 10:23.12 | orionshock | and bad... |
| 10:23.35 | Trela | FRSP2 and IMRP insert lines between other lines which requires rewriting portions of the tooltip. |
| 10:23.37 | Trela | Your code? |
| 10:24.12 | orionshock | i grab the font object for top left, modify it, then add additional data to end of the tooltip |
| 10:24.27 | Fisker- | OMG |
| 10:24.30 | Fisker- | major facepalm |
| 10:24.37 | Fisker- | how can you call yourself technical support etc >:E |
| 10:24.49 | Trela | FRSP2 clears the entire tooltip, writes the necessary data into an array, then sets each font object to the corresponding array line. |
| 10:25.18 | orionshock | ghay and clunky |
| 10:25.22 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:25.52 | Trela | If you are talking about my code, it has not broken across any WoW patches. >.>; |
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| 10:26.19 | Trela | <.<! |
| 10:26.28 | Fisker- | Any EU's here? |
| 10:26.44 | profalbert | <-- |
| 10:26.53 | Fisker- | Tried getting the new preload data? |
| 10:27.16 | Adirelle|work | Fisker-: yes, and it worked |
| 10:27.25 | Fisker- | EU and PC? |
| 10:27.34 | Adirelle|work | PC ? |
| 10:27.58 | orionshock | 3sage depolyment? |
| 10:28.08 | Fisker- | The Mac seed seems to work fine |
| 10:28.12 | Fisker- | Just asking if you're on PC or on Mac |
| 10:28.19 | Adirelle|work | oh PC |
| 10:28.22 | Adirelle|work | frFR |
| 10:28.35 | Adirelle|work | used the torrent directly |
| 10:28.59 | Trela | For retail WoW 3.x update? |
| 10:29.09 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 10:29.23 | Adirelle|work | yep, the torrent file is stored in the cache folder |
| 10:29.26 | Fisker- | Could you check the downloader and then tell me what seed it's connecting to @ Blizzard? |
| 10:30.00 | Adirelle|work | <= at work, I don't have access to it now |
| 10:30.12 | Julith | hi, is there a way to get access to the branches of the old wowace svn repository? |
| 10:31.09 | [SW]Dodge | Julith: http://oldsvn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/ |
| 10:31.18 | Fisker- | fixed it myself |
| 10:31.23 | Fisker- | n00bs :( |
| 10:31.40 | Julith | thanks dodge |
| 10:31.45 | Trela | Imagine a pseudo primitive HTML/XML tagging format used as a communication protocol sent over a Blizzard chat channel. Imagine the mess and you get the RSP communication protocol! http://www.nonamestudios.com/download/flagRSP2_files/flagrsp-comm-doc.txt |
| 10:31.54 | Adirelle|work | Fisker-: you're welcome |
| 10:32.44 | orionshock | Trela: try DoT Timmer it does it too |
| 10:32.49 | orionshock | & worse |
| 10:33.06 | Fisker- | Adirelle|work wasn't meaning you though |
| 10:33.11 | Trela | Ash_DoTimer? |
| 10:33.18 | Fisker- | I downloaded it through the correct(not bad) webseed |
| 10:33.23 | Fisker- | Assembled the missing data myself |
| 10:33.29 | Fisker- | so i'm seeding it for the rest instead |
| 10:33.44 | Fisker- | Though for some reason it seems to think i'm missing 0.1% |
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| 10:34.04 | Fisker- | But the files work fine as far as i can see |
| 10:34.05 | Adirelle|work | I think it is intended |
| 10:34.13 | Adirelle|work | to prevent the downloader to start the uploader |
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| 10:34.41 | Adirelle|work | I meant "to try to run the updater" |
| 10:35.02 | [SW]Dodge | wtf downloader is stilla t 95% since about 2 hrs O.o |
| 10:35.10 | Fisker- | Yeah |
| 10:35.14 | Fisker- | Tried to tell Blizzard about it |
| 10:35.21 | Fisker- | "But it's downloading data, it's working" |
| 10:35.27 | Fisker- | ITS DOWNLOADING BAD DATA |
| 10:35.30 | Trela | tries to get the downloader to run with no success. |
| 10:35.31 | Fisker- | Discarded data = NOT FINE |
| 10:35.44 | [SW]Dodge | 192mb of 70mb downloaded |
| 10:35.46 | Elkano | Tadaima! |
| 10:36.09 | Trela | I think I am done coding AddOns for the next month. |
| 10:37.41 | Fisker- | btw [SW]Dodge |
| 10:37.46 | Fisker- | you using a torrent client or something? |
| 10:38.09 | [SW]Dodge | for patch or generally? |
| 10:38.14 | [SW]Dodge | no to both^^ |
| 10:38.30 | [SW]Dodge | just the blizz loader |
| 10:38.36 | Fisker- | You could just connect to me for the rest of the patch then though |
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| 10:39.47 | Adirelle|work | er... 3rd party torrent clients connect to the blizzard download you know |
| 10:40.01 | Fisker- | Yeah, but it'll have to find me first |
| 10:40.09 | Fisker- | Direct connection would be faster :P |
| 10:40.30 | Adirelle|work | is wondering if µtorrent allowed to manually add a client. |
| 10:42.02 | Adirelle|work | it does |
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| 10:49.48 | Fasti | wowwiki for patches :) |
| 10:52.09 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6178319139&sid=1#13 <-lol :D |
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| 11:01.44 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 11:01.50 | Fisker- | i wonder where the webseed is specified |
| 11:02.07 | Fisker- | Unless it's somewhere in the torrent but encrypted >:3 |
| 11:03.21 | Maldivia | webseed are stored as clear-text in the torrent |
| 11:03.31 | Maldivia | (if you're refering to the blizzard downloader torrent files) |
| 11:04.15 | sb|work | hm |
| 11:04.19 | sb|work | cleartext? |
| 11:04.37 | [SW]Dodge | plain text :> |
| 11:04.38 | sb|work | whats the download speed when using some http DL manager? |
| 11:04.45 | sb|work | is it capped somehow? |
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| 11:05.05 | Maldivia | some webseed are capped, others arent |
| 11:05.47 | Maldivia | but unless you know how to construct a file using a torrent file, then the webseed wont help you much |
| 11:06.26 | Maldivia | or well, it's really only a problem if there's more than one file in the torrent |
| 11:08.28 | Fisker- | Maldivia not here |
| 11:08.40 | Maldivia | Fisker-: which torrent? |
| 11:08.50 | Fisker- | The stage 3 preload |
| 11:08.59 | Fisker- | And really it should be the tracker that has the seed of course |
| 11:09.03 | sb|work | go code some http downloader then, with multiple connections ;) |
| 11:09.20 | Maldivia | sb|work: done and done :) |
| 11:09.48 | Maldivia | Fisker-: hmm, can you link me the torrent file? |
| 11:11.57 | Fisker- | Not unless you know some place to upload it :P |
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| 11:13.47 | Maldivia | rapidshare.de or filefront.com or something similar? |
| 11:14.24 | Fisker- | http://rapidshare.com/files/152637370/BackgroundDownload.torrent.html |
| 11:15.30 | Maldivia | hmm, it doesn't appear that there are any webseed for that |
| 11:16.08 | mykx | using the torrent file in utorrent I have achieved 700KB/s using blizzard downloader I get 40 max |
| 11:16.11 | mykx | it's a piece of shit |
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| 11:19.02 | Maldivia | hmm, and getting a 404 when trying to access the webseed, so |
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| 11:25.32 | ReAn | mykx: Select the option "Don't throttle background download" |
| 11:25.36 | mitch0 | this one is the latest patch thing, right? WoW-3.0.1-to-3.0.2-Update\wow-partial-1.MPQ |
| 11:25.47 | mykx | yeah it really makes no difference ReAn :( |
| 11:25.54 | mykx | no big deal though I just use mirrors |
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| 11:26.32 | ReAn | mykx: Im maxxed out atm |
| 11:26.37 | ReAn | using blizz dloaded |
| 11:26.47 | ReAn | s/dloaded/dloader |
| 11:26.57 | mykx | odd |
| 11:27.06 | mykx | I find it maxes out... my upload but my download pfft nope |
| 11:27.30 | ReAn | i downloaded the majority of the patch @ uni |
| 11:27.39 | ReAn | maxxed out @ 5.2mb/sec down |
| 11:27.46 | ReAn | ~1.5 mb/sec up |
| 11:28.20 | ReAn | right now: 378k/sec down, 401 bytes/sec up |
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| 11:33.45 | sb|work | Maldivia: done - where? :P |
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| 11:36.35 | mitch0 | erm, how badly will I be 0wned if I download the patch from a russian mirror? :) |
| 11:37.08 | nevcairiel | very |
| 11:38.12 | mitch0 | why do ppl have to use that bloody rar thing |
| 11:38.18 | mitch0 | hates rar |
| 11:39.35 | mykx | "that bloody rar thing" .. ? compression lol |
| 11:40.27 | mitch0 | I know it's for compression. I just hate that format |
| 11:40.55 | mykx | there's lots of different ones out there it's just one of the more popular :) |
| 11:40.57 | Bruners_ | mitch0: why? |
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| 11:41.28 | mitch0 | 'cos I never seem to have a rar extractor around |
| 11:41.34 | Bruners_ | mitch0: do you prefer .ace ? |
| 11:41.34 | mitch0 | whereas zip is everywhere |
| 11:41.42 | mitch0 | zip, gzip, bzip |
| 11:42.15 | mitch0 | zip is the most preferred though |
| 11:43.33 | mitch0 | I especially hate rar files from .ru domains :) |
| 11:43.48 | mitch0 | but all the other mirrors seem to be broken |
| 11:43.51 | digmouse | I mainly use rar |
| 11:44.08 | vithos | 7z imo |
| 11:45.33 | nevcairiel | i just use zip or bz2 on *nix |
| 11:45.39 | Bruners_ | just use winace and you can extract most of them |
| 11:46.22 | mitch0 | I kinda got used to the default XP "open zip as folder" thing |
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| 11:46.40 | kilrogg | omg |
| 11:46.42 | mitch0 | :) |
| 11:47.04 | Bruners_ | i have removed zip support in windows :P |
| 11:47.10 | kilrogg | dito |
| 11:47.32 | mitch0 | *shrug* I got assimilated ;) |
| 11:47.34 | Bruners_ | as i dont like windows to read my zip files unless i open them |
| 11:48.35 | orionshock | Maldivia: ping? |
| 11:49.19 | mitch0 | 2hr meeting coming up... *shudder* |
| 11:51.25 | orionshock | Maldivia: so how do you get the data for libtradelinks? really |
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| 11:52.35 | Bruners_ | what is the best way to convert to the curse client? |
| 11:53.01 | Bruners_ | reinstall all addons with the client? |
| 11:53.39 | mykx | gl with it Bruners_, it's not very good imo |
| 11:53.42 | Trela | Bruners, honestly, the Curse Client seems to take care of every thing for you. I would recommend backing up your AddOns folder just in case. |
| 11:54.59 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.11 | kenlyric | then check your addons folder for mods not updated when you installed it |
| 11:55.14 | Bruners_ | last time i tried it, it did loads of installing and downloading without me telling it to do so :P |
| 11:55.18 | Trela | I do wish the thing would stop trying to install the Curse Profiler though. |
| 11:55.18 | kenlyric | these are the ones curse doesn't have. |
| 11:55.24 | kilrogg | And after using Curse client restoring your backup because everything is broken |
| 11:55.41 | kenlyric | yeah, having it autoupdate by default is bad design |
| 11:56.04 | mykx | eh? I had to click every single addon to update them without knowing if they needed to be updated in the first place |
| 11:56.07 | kenlyric | especially without even so much as a warning on install that it's going to do that. |
| 11:56.07 | Trela | It automatically updates because it is set to premium, but that should still be an option to select first. |
| 11:56.10 | mykx | so I stopped using it, for good. |
| 11:56.23 | kenlyric | mykx: uh, click the first addon, shift-click the last addon |
| 11:56.27 | kenlyric | update |
| 11:56.54 | kenlyric | it's imperfect, but it's not a terribly large extra number of clicks |
| 11:57.19 | mykx | oh thanks :) |
| 11:57.25 | kenlyric | also it has premium version turned on right now, so it auto-updates when you start the client anyway |
| 11:57.26 | Trela | They did say it is technically a beta. |
| 11:57.35 | mykx | but as for the second thing.. how do I know if stuff needs to be updated ? |
| 11:57.47 | kenlyric | you don't |
| 11:57.54 | kenlyric | it's still missing many basic features |
| 11:58.09 | Bruners_ | will it be possible to use a third party client? |
| 11:58.22 | Bruners_ | if that is ever made |
| 11:58.29 | kenlyric | JWU still works |
| 11:58.33 | Trela | I wrote my own client that uses the Curse Client protocol and it shows what AddOns need updated. :3 |
| 11:58.36 | kenlyric | just slow setup |
| 11:58.37 | orionshock | Woot! when you have a tradeskill window open that is from someone else, GetTradeSkillListLink() returns their link |
| 11:58.53 | mykx | Trela: any plans to release it ? |
| 11:59.03 | Bruners_ | kenlyric: by adding all addons manual? |
| 11:59.10 | kenlyric | Bruners_: yeah |
| 11:59.22 | Trela | mykx: Not sure if I want to feel the Wrath of the Curse Team. |
| 11:59.26 | kenlyric | I wouldn't do it, but it is an option |
| 11:59.40 | orionshock | Trela: does it work for linux :D |
| 11:59.44 | Trela | Yes. :D |
| 11:59.45 | mykx | I mean did they not change over to this because wowace was using a retarded amount of bandwidth every month, surely updating *every single addon* without knowing what needs to updated is 10x worse.. meh |
| 11:59.46 | kenlyric | what wrath |
| 11:59.56 | kenlyric | if all they're going to release is half-done shit, fuck em |
| 12:00.02 | orionshock | Trela: can u email it to me :D CC dosn't work on linux :\ |
| 12:00.17 | kenlyric | mykx: it doesn't update blindly. it checks for updates and updates those |
| 12:00.27 | mykx | ok |
| 12:00.30 | Trela | I wrote it in PHP and host it on my server. It checks for the latest version of the AddOns, bundles them into a zip files, and give you a download. |
| 12:01.03 | Adirelle|work | interesting, I sent this to wowmatrix : http://ace.pastey.net/97957, then answered this : http://ace.pastey.net/97956 |
| 12:01.28 | kenlyric | bah! why isn't steal your carbon on curse, all the other tekkub addons I use are. |
| 12:01.31 | Trela | I could release it, but I do not have it working for all AddOns, just the ones I specified since I do not have a full list. |
| 12:02.20 | backbone87 | Q: when creating a new project, is there a license that should be prefered for addons or "the license dont matters"? |
| 12:03.04 | kilrogg | Trela: and how did you manage authentication ? as far as I know curse's API needs login and a Session key ... |
| 12:03.17 | Trela | kilrogg: Big gaping security hole. |
| 12:03.30 | kilrogg | using an old session key ? |
| 12:03.47 | vhaarr | backbone87: no license is preferred, you need to figure it out for yourself which one you WANT to use, or chose "no license", if such an option exists |
| 12:03.55 | Trela | The session ID they are using for the premium preview is what EVERYONE is using. |
| 12:04.08 | kilrogg | ;) |
| 12:04.18 | Adirelle|work | Trela: I'd like to see your code too ^^ |
| 12:04.37 | Bruners_ | Adirelle|work: wierd response, but what is their case really? they dont host addons but list them on their page? |
| 12:04.59 | Adirelle|work | Bruners_: there a big more or less flaming thread on the forums |
| 12:05.09 | Trela | http://ace.pastey.net/97958 |
| 12:05.16 | orionshock | Bruners_: it's the $$ that is the problem not the updater |
| 12:05.30 | backbone87 | vhaarr: no license means "rights reserved"? i had read about the different licenses, but most is only bla... |
| 12:05.31 | orionshock | if wowmatrix removed the ad banner at the bottom, it would all go away |
| 12:05.57 | vhaarr | backbone87: I have no idea, basically you need someone to explain all the licenses to you, I'm not going to bother doing that |
| 12:05.58 | Adirelle|work | Bruners_: in short, they have a list of direct links to the addon files hosted on other servers, they doesn't name the author neither provide project links, and they makes money on this by providing they own ads |
| 12:06.05 | vhaarr | backbone87: google+wikipedia |
| 12:06.11 | backbone87 | done |
| 12:06.19 | vhaarr | good luck then |
| 12:06.23 | Trela | kilrogg: That is the list of functions the Curse Client uses. The log in system is just whether or not you can use the Curse Client. |
| 12:06.57 | Trela | All of those URLs go to http://addonservice.curse.com/ |
| 12:07.05 | Trela | http://addonservice.curse.com/AddOnService.asmx |
| 12:07.05 | kilrogg | I know |
| 12:07.40 | Trela | Do you work for Curse? :O |
| 12:07.55 | kilrogg | No, just looked at the client's traffic |
| 12:08.24 | Trela | The public key I took right out of the executable. |
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| 12:08.38 | kilrogg | interesting that it posts some data to hardwareservice.curse.com first ... market research included ? |
| 12:08.54 | Trela | We can decode the files that get sent to us, but not what it initially uses to start the client. |
| 12:09.07 | Trela | kilrogg: Ah, I did not know it does that. Mac client does not request it. |
| 12:11.53 | Trela | Actually, I double checked, the Mac client does and is uploading hardware data! |
| 12:11.57 | Bruners_ | the curseprofiler mines data for what really? |
| 12:12.24 | mykx | loot drops for that website they have uhh wtf is it called |
| 12:12.30 | Trela | "What data do we collect?" We only collect what is necessary for our database such as item statistics and quest information. Absolutely no personal information or passwords are even recorded or collected by the client. |
| 12:12.36 | Trela | Says nothing about hardware data. |
| 12:12.51 | Adirelle|work | mykx: wowdb ? |
| 12:12.55 | mykx | yeah that's the one |
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| 12:13.35 | mykx | I *think* it's the same deal as the wowhead client, although, I could be very wrong about that. |
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| 12:14.55 | Adirelle|work | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/curse-profiler.aspx => This addon is used to collect information about items, quests, entities/npcs as well as character profile information for upload to the Curse global database. |
| 12:15.31 | Adirelle|work | oh, there a curseprofiler v2, my bad |
| 12:15.46 | Adirelle|work | it is the same comment though |
| 12:16.25 | Adirelle|work | that doesn't say where I could access my character profile ... |
| 12:17.20 | orionshock | Trela: they already said it does collect some basic hardware data. that way they know what systems are using it so they can design around it. |
| 12:17.59 | Trela | Not quite listed in an easily spotted place for a policy though. |
| 12:18.24 | Bruners_ | http://lasseb.tihlde.org/img/images/curse.jpg <- this means i should click what? |
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| 12:19.03 | Trela | It is unsure of which one to install for updating. Select one and hit install selected. |
| 12:19.11 | nevcairiel | something like that usually means you should tell one of the wowace/CF moderators and they'll fix it, Bruners_ :) |
| 12:19.20 | orionshock | Trela: there is 1 programer on the project iirc, and only about 3 PR people that just slightly more important things to do.. so 9/10 things say that it was an oversight. |
| 12:19.47 | Trela | Probably. :3 |
| 12:19.48 | Bruners_ | nevcairiel: i just did didnt i ? :P |
| 12:20.02 | nevcairiel | Bruners_: only because i paied attention :P |
| 12:21.19 | Trela | I want to think about writing another AddOn, but I can not think of something that I want to do or is needed. |
| 12:21.32 | Bruners_ | Trela: write a really good quest log |
| 12:21.42 | Trela | :O |
| 12:21.50 | Trela | What about MonkeyQuest? That is really good. |
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| 12:22.09 | Bruners_ | something like beql only 100% working |
| 12:22.18 | nevcairiel | I use the default quest log just with DoubleWide |
| 12:22.22 | nevcairiel | thats all i need, really |
| 12:22.32 | Trela | BEQ1? |
| 12:22.46 | Bruners_ | bEQL |
| 12:23.13 | Trela | Where can I find it? |
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| 12:24.03 | Bruners_ | http://files.wowace.com/beql/beql-r79806.3.zip |
| 12:24.22 | Trela | Ah, thank you. I could not find it through search. |
| 12:24.33 | orionshock | Trela: i had that problem once.. and that's how i started writing GuildCraft. at first i was just writing because i wanted something to hack at. then i realized that my download counter on curse hit 5k one day :\ |
| 12:24.34 | eraserhead | Pitbull, is it possible to post blank frames for party or raids so as to design UI? Or do I have to be in a party or raid to get those to show and set up? |
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| 12:24.56 | Bruners_ | eraserhead: configuration mode |
| 12:24.56 | orionshock | eraserhead: go into config mode |
| 12:25.16 | Bruners_ | eraserhead: should be on the first page when you type /pitbull |
| 12:25.25 | eraserhead | kk thnx |
| 12:26.22 | orionshock | nevcairiel: who was the one who thought to put the event name as the first arg in CBH callbacks? do u know? |
| 12:26.50 | nevcairiel | mikk probably, why? |
| 12:26.56 | nevcairiel | it mimics wow event behaviour |
| 12:27.27 | orionshock | because 1) it has made my time debuging stuff in GuildCraft about 100x easier, and 2 lets me reuse functions alot with conditions on the event in question. |
| 12:27.53 | mykx | hrm does he have any other addons I like msbt |
| 12:28.06 | kenlyric | half of the statblocks addons I found required an addon called "statblocks" that doesn't exist. |
| 12:28.43 | Stanzilla | statblocks_* != statblock_* |
| 12:28.44 | orionshock | i have 2 very main functions in GC and they are used by about 4 other methods within the addon and with the event i can track where it's being used and setup conditionals. |
| 12:29.01 | nevcairiel | we do think before we code =P |
| 12:29.11 | Hjalte | kenlyric: The naming scheme is kind of stupid, but listen to Stanzilla :) |
| 12:29.14 | nevcairiel | occasionally, anyway |
| 12:29.26 | kenlyric | I know |
| 12:29.38 | kenlyric | but some of the functionality I require only comes in the broken one. |
| 12:29.44 | nevcairiel | yeah blame funkeh for the stupid names |
| 12:29.58 | Hjalte | kenlyric: That's too bad I'm afraid, the bar systems are totally different. |
| 12:30.02 | orionshock | like i can do "if event ~= "<something>" then, and in debug code it is a god-send |
| 12:30.02 | kenlyric | also, I wish dates hadn't been updated with the move from wowace to curse :/ |
| 12:30.29 | kenlyric | who the fuck decided it was a good idea to make a completely different system by adding or taking away a letter |
| 12:30.45 | nevcairiel | funkeh =P |
| 12:30.46 | kenlyric | software has version numbers for a reason |
| 12:31.01 | kenlyric | people get bad ideas from windows |
| 12:31.18 | nevcairiel | i never figured out wtf he was thinking when he named his second version of the shit |
| 12:31.24 | Hjalte | kenlyric: I suppose Funkeh' liked the name so much, that he wanted to keep it when switching to LDB :) |
| 12:31.47 | orionshock | IMO his switch to LDB was bad |
| 12:31.56 | kenlyric | so just switch? |
| 12:32.15 | kenlyric | the projects that don't work should be abandonated |
| 12:32.24 | kenlyric | it gives false hope! |
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| 12:33.11 | Hjalte | orionshock: I think it's fine, although it does confuse some, that not all the old plugins are available for LDB yet. |
| 12:34.24 | orionshock | the old one had a very very specific use, and was nice and clean. as clean as Funkeh` could do it. when it switched to LDB it became bloated with fubar style crap... |
| 12:34.31 | orionshock | needless to say i like the old one. |
| 12:34.41 | Bruners_ | Trela: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/bayis-extended-questlog.aspx |
| 12:36.51 | Xinhuan | anyone with directTV can help me buy a polar bear mount? i can pay! |
| 12:38.41 | nevcairiel | I want the stream, not the mount =( |
| 12:39.07 | nevcairiel | damn US people, broadcast only on some damn satellite provider |
| 12:39.09 | Fisker- | nice |
| 12:39.17 | Fisker- | you can play D3 at blizzcon |
| 12:39.18 | nevcairiel | give pay-per-view offer internet streaming |
| 12:39.26 | nevcairiel | offer=over |
| 12:40.22 | Bruners_ | nevcairiel: nobody that saves the streams and release it? |
| 12:40.31 | nevcairiel | someone probably will |
| 12:40.33 | nevcairiel | but i want it now |
| 12:40.36 | sb|work | Xinhuan: huh? how to get mounts? :p |
| 12:40.39 | nevcairiel | live and all |
| 12:40.50 | Xinhuan | start your wow launcher |
| 12:40.55 | Xinhuan | the advertisement is on the left |
| 12:41.02 | sb|work | meh, work Ö= |
| 12:41.03 | nevcairiel | sb|work: buy both days of pay-per-view from DirecTV, some crappy US satellite service |
| 12:41.03 | sb|work | := |
| 12:41.12 | nevcairiel | only US <.< |
| 12:41.18 | sb|work | gnnnl :) |
| 12:41.26 | sb|work | giev eu baer :/ |
| 12:41.35 | Bruners_ | Buffalo or Buffalo2 ? |
| 12:41.46 | Fisker- | You can probably fake it though :D |
| 12:41.52 | Fisker- | The voucher probably works on all realms |
| 12:41.58 | sb|work | mhhh |
| 12:42.50 | sb|work | but livestream is US only, right? so no way for me to actually see that |
| 12:43.00 | Xinhuan | US and Aus only |
| 12:43.14 | sb|work | price for 2 days? (aka mount :p) |
| 12:43.20 | nevcairiel | USD 40 |
| 12:43.38 | sb|work | mh would be okay if i could actually watch the stream then :/ |
| 12:43.45 | nevcairiel | On lvl 70, you only have 2 major glyphs unlocked, right? |
| 12:43.51 | Fisker- | yup |
| 12:43.52 | Bruners_ | thats cheap |
| 12:44.20 | sb|work | Bruners_: but its not cheap if its only the mount - no stream :) |
| 12:44.31 | Bruners_ | its 5 beers! |
| 12:44.37 | sb|work | huh? |
| 12:45.03 | Fisker- | lulz |
| 12:45.08 | Fisker- | Geoff Keighley is a host |
| 12:45.17 | Fisker- | might as well not see it :D |
| 12:45.37 | sb|work | its ~4 "oktoberfest" beers :p (= 4l) |
| 12:45.48 | Xinhuan | anyone with directTV can help me buy a polar bear mount? i can pay! |
| 12:46.01 | sb|work | Xinhuan: are you from EU? |
| 12:46.06 | Xinhuan | i'm from singapore |
| 12:46.18 | sb|work | mh |
| 12:46.31 | sb|work | so if it works for you it would also work for EU, right? :P |
| 12:47.00 | sb|work | tell me if it works, want to have that mount ;) |
| 12:47.11 | sb|work | nevcairiel: go test it :P |
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| 12:47.38 | nevcairiel | I dont pay 40USD on just a mount |
| 12:47.43 | nevcairiel | i want to see the damn stream |
| 12:47.51 | Xinhuan | what do you mean, if it works for me sb|work? |
| 12:48.08 | Bruners_ | Bugsack needs !buggrabber right? |
| 12:48.21 | kilrogg | yepp |
| 12:48.25 | Bruners_ | without its just a empty sack |
| 12:48.27 | Bruners_ | ? |
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| 12:48.59 | sb|work | Xinhuan: do you play on US servers? |
| 12:49.00 | kilrogg | It'll probably not be too enthusiastic about running without Buggrabber |
| 12:49.11 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 12:49.19 | sb|work | ahh ok.. |
| 12:49.22 | Xinhuan | whole of Australia plays on US servers |
| 12:49.45 | Xinhuan | i would assume the code works on all realms, since blizzcon is worldwide |
| 12:49.46 | Fisker- | But why get fail mount? >:E |
| 12:49.58 | Xinhuan | and europeans are included |
| 12:50.01 | nevcairiel | yeah i dont like the mount anyway |
| 12:50.11 | Bruners_ | why isnt !buggrabber then included with bugsack ? |
| 12:50.11 | nevcairiel | the ugly murloc with the flag .. nah |
| 12:50.13 | Fisker- | It's alright |
| 12:50.18 | Xinhuan | gimme! |
| 12:50.32 | Fisker- | But it's basically everyone and their mother who's going to have it |
| 12:50.42 | sb|work | nevcairiel: but it would be ~unique on your EU server :p |
| 12:51.00 | kilrogg | does anyone know how global cooldown behaves when you have y% melee haste and y% spell, z% ranged haste ? does the highest haste rating win ? |
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| 12:51.29 | Adirelle|work | kilrogg: live or ptr ? |
| 12:51.31 | kilrogg | err, x, y, z ... |
| 12:51.35 | kilrogg | ptr preferably |
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| 12:52.24 | Adirelle|work | IIRC, haste from items affect melee, spell and ranged altogether |
| 12:52.43 | sb|work | wtf |
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| 12:53.02 | Adirelle|work | I don't know is there is some talent that affects only melee, ranged or spell |
| 12:53.03 | sb|work | nevcairiel http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon/dtv/ - why is that page even translated to german :/ |
| 12:53.16 | kilrogg | shaman totems for example ... |
| 12:53.35 | Adirelle|work | so I think it depends on the spell you used... |
| 12:53.47 | Adirelle|work | s/spell/skill/ |
| 12:53.49 | Megalon | shaman totems have 1s gcd, won't get any less than that |
| 12:53.56 | Megalon | only exception is a glyphed earth shock |
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| 12:54.58 | kilrogg | I don't think you get my point ... my GCD is modified by my haste rating .. which is the same for ranged, melee and spell as of WoW 3.0 |
| 12:55.33 | kilrogg | but if I get an effect which increases only ONE type of haste rating (e.g. Wrath of Air totem = 6% spell haste) |
| 12:55.53 | Adirelle|work | oh, this is a percentage modifier |
| 12:55.56 | orionshock | kilrogg: on live i think it follows the school / type of the spell that triggered it |
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| 12:56.26 | Adirelle|work | I think like orionshock said |
| 12:56.27 | Bruners_ | ckknight: fubar2 or fubar 3.0 in curse client? |
| 12:56.40 | orionshock | that would fit with current models that blizzard uses. |
| 12:56.58 | orionshock | Bruners_: _Fubar_ or Fubar 3.0 if it's seperated out |
| 12:57.05 | Xinhuan | after some hardcore fiddling around, i've got omen3 looking like that now: |
| 12:57.06 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/omen.jpg |
| 12:57.14 | orionshock | fubar2 is the Ace2 backport of Fubar-3.0 |
| 12:57.14 | Adirelle|work | your GCD will be reduced by haste from your haste score AND the 6% from the totem only if you used a spell like skill |
| 12:57.27 | Xinhuan | fully configurable backgrounds, with tiling options, insets, edges, bars, fonts, etc! |
| 12:57.57 | Bruners_ | the fubar section is a total mess in the curse client |
| 12:58.02 | Xinhuan | (yes that is an NPC tanking the mob) |
| 12:58.03 | orionshock | Xinhuan: i have mixed feelings about that |
| 12:58.10 | kilrogg | Xinhuan: looks nice |
| 12:58.11 | Adirelle|work | Xinhuan: <3 |
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| 12:58.31 | nevcairiel | lol Xinhuan background textures, hah |
| 12:58.46 | Xinhuan | yeah, well you can set it back to "blizzard tooltip" |
| 12:59.03 | orionshock | that shot makes it look rather, ugly.. and unreadable.. tho that could just be the screenshot fubaring it... then again i like the idea that you put into it. |
| 12:59.15 | Adirelle|work | Xinhuan: go repair your stuff !1 |
| 12:59.26 | nevcairiel | the drag-edge should be more in the edge, imho |
| 12:59.26 | Xinhuan | and change the alpha and it would look exactly like omen2 default ;p |
| 12:59.26 | Xinhuan | i added a "parchment" background from the achievement pane |
| 12:59.27 | Xinhuan | yes, well, that's not a high priority fix |
| 12:59.58 | Xinhuan | orionshock: it just looks unreadble because i set the font size small |
| 13:00.02 | Xinhuan | and the font small |
| 13:00.08 | Adirelle|work | orionshock: I think the key words from what Xinhuan aid is "fully configurable" |
| 13:00.23 | Xinhuan | the default font sizes are larger than what i have in the screenshot |
| 13:00.27 | Adirelle|work | s/aid/said/ |
| 13:00.28 | orionshock | quote: ... then again i like the idea that you put into it. |
| 13:00.29 | Xinhuan | same with bar height, bar spacing |
| 13:00.47 | Xinhuan | you can choose if you want the background to be tiled or stretched ;p |
| 13:01.01 | Xinhuan | if someone bothered with their own background images in SharedMedia that is |
| 13:01.12 | Xinhuan | it just reads from there |
| 13:01.14 | Adirelle|work | Xinhuan: so, did you add some workaround about the "no threat data before entering threat list" issue ? |
| 13:01.26 | Xinhuan | there is no workaround |
| 13:01.32 | Xinhuan | you... well get into combat ;p |
| 13:02.05 | Xinhuan | i still need to do libsink options, and audible/visible threat warnings |
| 13:02.06 | Adirelle|work | bah, that shouldn't be such an issue |
| 13:02.42 | Adirelle|work | is that libsink really needed, the blizzard interface already shows such information |
| 13:02.51 | Adirelle|work | (if you enable them) |
| 13:03.11 | Xinhuan | uncertain |
| 13:03.16 | Adirelle|work | ? |
| 13:03.33 | nevcairiel | blizzard only shows it if you have the area of the mob in your sight |
| 13:03.44 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, do you think libsink options is necessary? |
| 13:03.47 | nevcairiel | like on big raid mobs, you probably dont see it |
| 13:03.52 | nevcairiel | yea, i do |
| 13:04.02 | Xinhuan | if u check omen in live right now |
| 13:04.10 | Xinhuan | it has options to output to any combination of |
| 13:04.20 | Xinhuan | Blizzard Error Frame, Channel, Chat, Default, None, Raid Warning |
| 13:04.26 | nevcairiel | it uses LibSink =P |
| 13:04.32 | nevcairiel | or at least it should |
| 13:04.39 | Xinhuan | yes well yeah |
| 13:04.48 | Xinhuan | i'm asking if you think i should include it in omen3 core |
| 13:04.48 | nevcairiel | LibSink-2.0 gives you a pre-build options table you can just stuff in some category |
| 13:04.57 | nevcairiel | yea i do |
| 13:05.05 | nevcairiel | warnings are nice |
| 13:05.10 | nevcairiel | and people like options |
| 13:05.13 | Adirelle|work | my point was it is in blizzard ctf (or even over monster heads, like damage) but if it is likely to be hidden sometimes, go for libsink |
| 13:05.16 | nevcairiel | or well, i could just do it if you want |
| 13:05.51 | Bruners_ | is there any good lightheaded alternatives? |
| 13:06.17 | kenlyric | i love libsink. being able to dump zomgbuffs warnings into the witchhunt window is quite useful |
| 13:06.37 | nevcairiel | yeah people just like the warnings in a place where they have their other stuff |
| 13:07.00 | Adirelle|work | libsink is just made of win |
| 13:08.29 | Xinhuan | aha |
| 13:08.33 | Xinhuan | omen2 does it like this |
| 13:08.34 | Xinhuan | self.configOptions.args.output = self:GetSinkAce3OptionsDataTable() |
| 13:08.39 | Xinhuan | that's easy |
| 13:09.20 | Xinhuan | i'll also have to copy the flash-and-shake code hehe |
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| 13:09.33 | Xinhuan | which i wrote anyway |
| 13:10.00 | Bruners_ | do you still need PT3Bar_Buttonfacade? |
| 13:11.02 | Adirelle|work | orionshock: finally got my mods removed from wowmatrix "until they display the author name and provide a link to the project page" |
| 13:11.08 | [SW]Dodge | oh noes ._. eu ptr stucks at "Retrieving character list"... :( |
| 13:11.14 | orionshock | Adirelle|work: niec |
| 13:11.17 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:11.24 | Adirelle|work | that doesn't address the bandwidth stealing though |
| 13:11.26 | orionshock | IMO that's the best way to kill off wowmatrix |
| 13:11.31 | Xinhuan | if they are any good, they will eventally implement project link pages |
| 13:11.52 | Adirelle|work | Xinhuan: actually that is what Laurie from wowmatrix said to me |
| 13:12.03 | Xinhuan | what did he sau |
| 13:12.04 | Xinhuan | say |
| 13:12.11 | orionshock | Xinhuan: aside from the various support and display problems.. i just don't like their bissness model. |
| 13:12.38 | Xinhuan | you just don't like that money was involved |
| 13:12.44 | Adirelle|work | quote : "We will be specifying the names of the authors |
| 13:12.44 | Adirelle|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.44 | Adirelle|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.46 | Xinhuan | if wowmatrix didn't have ads, you won't have objected |
| 13:12.52 | Adirelle|work | ah, damn, sorry for the multiline paste |
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| 13:12.58 | Xinhuan | if the author asked for donations instead |
| 13:13.01 | Xinhuan | you wuldn't have objected |
| 13:13.13 | kenlyric | money is involved? how dare they |
| 13:13.16 | kenlyric | bandwidth is free |
| 13:13.19 | kenlyric | so are servers |
| 13:13.21 | kenlyric | greedy bastards |
| 13:14.22 | orionshock | Xinhuan: yep that is really the only objection i have. if it was more i'd have to bitch about jWU and WUU too... and i don't have problems with those programs. |
| 13:14.47 | orionshock | that and they are indirectly making money off of my work... |
| 13:14.53 | Xinhuan | having ads is equally legal as asking for donations |
| 13:14.59 | Xinhuan | i see no difference |
| 13:15.03 | Xinhuan | its just a matter of ethics |
| 13:15.18 | orionshock | well sorta, putting the ads up they get money from iirc |
| 13:15.24 | orionshock | regardless if they are clicked |
| 13:16.19 | Bruners_ | they should still link to the original author tho |
| 13:16.51 | [SW]Dodge | haha they just added author names to wowmatrix :D |
| 13:17.22 | Xinhuan | if they want to keep up their ad revenue, they will of course listen to input and improve their updater! |
| 13:17.31 | Maldivia | orionshock: pong |
| 13:17.40 | orionshock | Maldivia: hey ... your alive :D |
| 13:17.46 | Maldivia | orionshock: somewhat |
| 13:17.55 | Maldivia | orionshock: and as I told you, from the data files |
| 13:18.07 | orionshock | yes.. but the data files are encoded ofc... |
| 13:18.20 | orionshock | is the ability to share scripts that dig in to wdb files some secret? |
| 13:19.32 | Maldivia | orionshock: not really, there are tons of those scripts online - the programs I use for it just isn't very public friendly |
| 13:19.43 | orionshock | lol |
| 13:20.34 | orionshock | well like so many good and awesome things in wow, it's the maintainers that matter... i just don't want to end up where a patch hits and that lib never gets updated... |
| 13:21.08 | Mikk | you do know that you can't dig into wdb files from addons, right? |
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| 13:21.12 | Mikk | it's external programs |
| 13:21.32 | orionshock | Mikk: yes this is an understood idea. |
| 13:21.35 | Mikk | ok |
| 13:22.38 | orionshock | but being able to decode that tradlink, i have redesigned my entire addon around this idea... and if i can't im back to the ghetto method of things... |
| 13:22.38 | Mikk | Xinhuan: i'm not really following why you think you need to integrate libsink into omen3 core |
| 13:23.12 | Mikk | I mean.. just because an addon CAN have its own slew of code to do something, doesnt make it a good idea? :P |
| 13:23.13 | Julith | does anyone know which combat event the autoattack (white damage) of a ranged unit triggers? "SWING_DAMAGE" or "RANGE_DAMAGE"? |
| 13:23.40 | Mikk | Julith: test! :P |
| 13:23.54 | orionshock | oh & Mikk, nevcairiel said your the one that opted to have the event name added to CBH's callbacks. I'd like to thank you for that. it has made things easier for me to debug and craft functions around this idea. |
| 13:24.05 | nevcairiel | Mikk: huh, i dont get what you mean, whats so bad about using LibSink for customizable output? |
| 13:24.09 | Julith | jeah, but could have been somebody already knows :) |
| 13:24.23 | Xinhuan | i dont know Mikk, i assumed a lot of people liked to use LibSink in omen to output that they are nearly at the threat threshold |
| 13:24.32 | Mikk | nevcairiel: that's my point too. it isn't. what I'M not getting is why you would want to duplicate libsinks code :) |
| 13:24.41 | nevcairiel | oh he isnt |
| 13:24.44 | Mikk | oh, my bad then |
| 13:24.51 | nevcairiel | he was just wondering if he wants libsink support |
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| 13:24.55 | nevcairiel | his wording kinda sucked =) |
| 13:25.02 | Mikk | oh. yes. definitely libsink support plix. |
| 13:25.06 | Maldivia | orionshock: my utils for it are very hard coded, and they cross-reference item cache files aswell, to find the bop items |
| 13:25.11 | Xinhuan | i'm not duplicating any code, i'm just considering if i should include libsink as a lib with omen |
| 13:25.42 | Mikk | libsink is hot steamy sex, and everyone deserves some |
| 13:25.42 | Mikk | imo |
| 13:25.42 | Mikk | =) |
| 13:25.55 | Xinhuan | Your .pkgmeta file is invalid: |
| 13:25.55 | Xinhuan | Your external references should not end with a slash: 'svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/ace-gui-3-0-shared-media-widgets/mainline/trunk/AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets/' |
| 13:25.56 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 13:25.56 | Maldivia | orionshock: have a db set up the handles all that, and then I have a simple SQL query, the extracts the lists afterwards :9 |
| 13:26.01 | orionshock | Maldivia: oh, the tricky way.. i would have ghetto hacked it with a tooltip scanner and an in game addon... |
| 13:26.10 | Mikk | (and if you're including libsink, you don't have to have an output method of your own at all) |
| 13:26.20 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: isnt that path kinda invalid too? at least it looks awful :( |
| 13:26.30 | Xinhuan | that's the path i stole from omen2 |
| 13:26.34 | Xinhuan | i mean |
| 13:26.38 | Xinhuan | no not from omen2 |
| 13:26.39 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 13:26.47 | Xinhuan | well from whereveer i got it |
| 13:26.51 | nevcairiel | but its the right path |
| 13:26.57 | nevcairiel | damn forgot to rename that one |
| 13:27.12 | nevcairiel | oh well, sucks to do it now =P |
| 13:27.49 | Xinhuan | pushing my commit anyway |
| 13:27.53 | Maldivia | orionshock: well, after every patch, I rescan every single recipe in the game, to check for new BoP items, that's why it often takes some time, since I actually have to get patch, extract information, validate data, and then combine the data files |
| 13:27.56 | Xinhuan | after removing that "/" |
| 13:28.29 | Xinhuan | for some reason, i get some error, but the push is successful |
| 13:28.42 | nevcairiel | whats the error? |
| 13:28.54 | Xinhuan | i'll pastey it soon |
| 13:29.08 | nevcairiel | also remove that crappy LoadAddOn shit =P |
| 13:29.30 | Xinhuan | i'll remove it when all libs are updated without ## LoD: 1 |
| 13:29.32 | nevcairiel | Ace3 isnt LoD anyway |
| 13:29.44 | Xinhuan | yeah so it doesn't hurt |
| 13:29.53 | Xinhuan | just a redundant line |
| 13:30.19 | Xinhuan | my next goal is to throw in audible/visible/sink warnings by tonight |
| 13:30.57 | Adirelle|work | ~api LoadAddOn |
| 13:30.58 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_LoadAddOn |
| 13:31.11 | orionshock | Maldivia: humm.... |
| 13:31.20 | orionshock | well the time has come to sleep, night all |
| 13:31.37 | Maldivia | night night |
| 13:31.47 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: i have the weekend like completly off, any other feature what i could work on? =P |
| 13:31.49 | Mikk | Xinhuan: not following... updated without LoD:1 ? |
| 13:31.59 | Mikk | shouldnt libs mostly BE LoD? oO |
| 13:32.05 | Xinhuan | hmm nevcairiel, i didn't get an error commited this time |
| 13:32.09 | Xinhuan | i mean pushing |
| 13:32.14 | nevcairiel | Mikk: OptionalDep seems to no longer load stuff thats LoadOnDemand in 3.0 |
| 13:32.17 | Xinhuan | however, it took 5 minutes to push |
| 13:32.22 | Xinhuan | is there a reason? |
| 13:32.25 | nevcairiel | so we're planning to remove the LoD flag from libs |
| 13:32.37 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: no idea, would have to see the error from earlier |
| 13:32.51 | Xinhuan | just a stack trace about Connection Reset by peer with some error code |
| 13:32.53 | Mikk | WHAAAT? |
| 13:32.58 | Mikk | Seriously, that needs to get fixed |
| 13:33.01 | Adirelle|work | ^^ |
| 13:33.03 | Xinhuan | Mikk: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10971929880&sid=1 |
| 13:33.12 | nevcairiel | Mikk: its been like that since beta day1, apparently |
| 13:33.15 | Xinhuan | i wrote a test case to show iriel, but he hasn't showed up |
| 13:33.36 | nevcairiel | Mikk: and 3.0.2 release is frozen now |
| 13:33.40 | Xinhuan | its been like that since beta days |
| 13:33.40 | Mikk | Shit |
| 13:33.49 | Xinhuan | back since august that is |
| 13:33.51 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: probably the repo hook timing out =P |
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| 13:34.06 | nevcairiel | seeing how Repo just died |
| 13:34.07 | Xinhuan | just that i never took the time to figure out what the problem is until 2 days ago |
| 13:34.54 | Mikk | fuck |
| 13:35.01 | nevcairiel | i dont care really |
| 13:35.06 | Xinhuan | well, the LoD issue is quite a big one, well not that big |
| 13:35.08 | Xinhuan | but still |
| 13:35.08 | nevcairiel | if you install a lib, you should use it too |
| 13:35.16 | nevcairiel | or disable it completly |
| 13:35.18 | Mikk | nev: but if you deinstall the addon.... |
| 13:35.21 | Mikk | the lib shouldnt load |
| 13:35.32 | nevcairiel | Mikk: if you run disembed, take care if your shit |
| 13:35.33 | Xinhuan | i have lots of libs, i can't figure out which one is actually in use anymore lol |
| 13:35.38 | nevcairiel | Mikk: run embed, no issue =P |
| 13:35.58 | Josh_Borke | quit disembedding |
| 13:36.08 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: i just disable them from time to time and see what i need to enable back for everything to work, hehe |
| 13:36.28 | Adirelle|work | they are LoD addon too, like the one that loads only when you get to the auction house (or whatever) |
| 13:36.39 | nevcairiel | Adirelle|work: those load fine |
| 13:36.45 | nevcairiel | because some code loads them |
| 13:36.50 | Xinhuan | yes, well those load fine, because Blizzard code loads them |
| 13:36.55 | Xinhuan | with LoadAddOn |
| 13:37.01 | Adirelle|work | nevcairiel: do they disembeeded lod lib load fine too ? |
| 13:37.01 | nevcairiel | AddonLoader doesnt have any issue either |
| 13:37.04 | Adirelle|work | their* |
| 13:37.10 | nevcairiel | Adirelle|work: no |
| 13:37.14 | Xinhuan | because addonloader also uses LoadAddOn() |
| 13:37.15 | Adirelle|work | nevcairiel: that's my point |
| 13:37.25 | nevcairiel | Adirelle|work: your point is totally confused |
| 13:37.28 | nevcairiel | like you |
| 13:37.29 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 13:37.34 | Adirelle|work | ^^ |
| 13:37.53 | Xinhuan | basically, from my tests, the only way to load a LoD addon is via using LoadAddOn() function, simply optdepping it or Reqdepping it no longer works |
| 13:38.11 | Adirelle|work | actually I promised myself not to try to discuss that kind of point with you, but I couldn't help myself |
| 13:38.14 | Mikk | not reqdeps either? sheesh |
| 13:38.16 | nevcairiel | did you try reqdep? |
| 13:38.43 | Xinhuan | actually i didn't, maybe i'll go try now |
| 13:38.49 | nevcairiel | Adirelle|work: the difference is that LoD Addons load from some Lua code, libs don't do that, your comparison is totally flawed |
| 13:39.31 | nevcairiel | well except Ace2 libs, but we're trying to exterminate those =P |
| 13:39.35 | Xinhuan | ## RequiredDeps: AddonA |
| 13:39.40 | Xinhuan | that's the correct header right? |
| 13:39.51 | Adirelle|work | nevcairiel: ok, let me reword it then, I have disembedded libraries that are used by LoD addon, so I don't want those libraries to be loaded everytime but only when the LoD addon is loaded |
| 13:40.01 | Bruners_ | any news on when they will make people pay for premium service ? |
| 13:40.11 | Adirelle|work | that's a corner case though |
| 13:40.14 | nevcairiel | Adirelle|work: no chance =P |
| 13:40.27 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: yeah one of them |
| 13:40.27 | Xinhuan | ya nevcairiel, there are some addons that i would use, say, on my mage, but not my rogue |
| 13:40.35 | Xinhuan | and those libraries are in use by only the mage addon |
| 13:40.40 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: disable them and their libs on your rogue |
| 13:40.43 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 13:40.45 | Xinhuan | true |
| 13:40.54 | nevcairiel | LoD is the only case that bites you |
| 13:41.09 | Josh_Borke | seems to me this could be fixed by don't disembed :-P |
| 13:41.10 | nevcairiel | but libs usually dont suck performance unless they are actually in use |
| 13:41.36 | Xinhuan | according to my ReqDep test, AddonB fails to load even whsn specifyin AddonA as a reqdep, because AddonA is LoD. |
| 13:41.44 | Xinhuan | so neither A nor B loaded |
| 13:41.50 | Xinhuan | and both are listed red in the addon screen |
| 13:41.51 | nevcairiel | thats kinda dumb =P |
| 13:41.52 | Xinhuan | red text |
| 13:42.30 | Xinhuan | basically any LoD addon will have its text in red in the login screen, and those will not load |
| 13:42.37 | Mikk | jesus |
| 13:42.39 | Xinhuan | addonB was red, cos it required addona which was red |
| 13:43.14 | Josh_Borke | Xinhuan: can you LoadAddon(AddonA) then LoadAddon(AddonB) in game? |
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| 13:43.24 | nevcairiel | Josh_Borke: probably |
| 13:43.32 | nevcairiel | or hm |
| 13:43.35 | Adirelle|work | LoadAddOn seems to check dependecies for the failure reasons, chances are the login screen does it too |
| 13:43.37 | nevcairiel | wonder if you can load the non-LoD |
| 13:44.06 | Josh_Borke | Xinhuan: in the ReqDep case i mean |
| 13:44.15 | nevcairiel | Anyway all discussions about that are kinda pointless, 3.0.2 is frozen, so i need to fix all libs are the screaming starts |
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| 13:44.31 | Xinhuan | yes Josh_Borke |
| 13:44.33 | nevcairiel | s/are/or/ |
| 13:44.40 | nevcairiel | bah purl |
| 13:44.40 | Josh_Borke | interesting |
| 13:44.41 | nevcairiel | wrong one |
| 13:44.50 | Xinhuan | you can indeed do /run LoadAddOn("AddonA") LoadAddOn("AddonB") |
| 13:44.53 | Xinhuan | in game and they will load |
| 13:44.58 | Repo | 10fu-bar_pet-info-fu: 03Jaydehawk * r85 PetInfoFu-readme.txt: FuBar_PetInfoFu: |
| 13:44.59 | Repo | - updated readme to 2.4.3 |
| 13:45.10 | Xinhuan | what's wrong with Repo |
| 13:45.15 | Xinhuan | it didn't report my omen3 push |
| 13:45.22 | Josh_Borke | i think that's a bug (the reqdep case |
| 13:45.22 | nevcairiel | ckk fixed it just now, i think |
| 13:45.25 | Stanzilla | it doesn't like you |
| 13:45.34 | ckknight | I'm gonna go with Stanzilla on this one. |
| 13:45.36 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: obviously both are bugs |
| 13:45.40 | Stanzilla | ;D |
| 13:45.45 | nevcairiel | Mikk: the first one doesnt have to be |
| 13:45.51 | Mikk | an optional dependency declarator that does... exactly nothing? |
| 13:45.53 | Josh_Borke | i'm all for the first one :-D |
| 13:45.59 | Josh_Borke | Mikk: that is a false statement |
| 13:46.39 | Adirelle|work | Mikk: wrong, if they addonA wasn't LoD, it would be loaded before addonB |
| 13:46.42 | Josh_Borke | if something is LoD AND it is optionally depended on that means WoW shouldn't have to load it for the addon because it's optional |
| 13:46.46 | Adirelle|work | s/they // |
| 13:46.58 | Xinhuan | basically the issue is with LoD-ness |
| 13:47.10 | Xinhuan | an LoD addon can ONLY be loaded via LoadAddOn() and nothing else |
| 13:47.15 | Xinhuan | right now, that is |
| 13:47.25 | Xinhuan | optdep, reqdep, etc all useless |
| 13:47.31 | Adirelle|work | actually, the optdep forcing to load LoD addon was either a "feature" or a bug, depending on how you see it |
| 13:47.32 | Xinhuan | i didn't test ## LoadWith |
| 13:47.36 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: So, in your mind, what is the purpose of OptDep now? |
| 13:47.40 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: Being pretty? |
| 13:47.48 | nevcairiel | Mikk: load optdeps that are not LoD? |
| 13:47.56 | Josh_Borke | mikk: to provide optional capabilities when another addon is ALREADY available |
| 13:47.58 | nevcairiel | load-order and all |
| 13:48.04 | Xinhuan | well yes Adirelle|work, because its an optdep, technically its not required for the main addon to work |
| 13:48.05 | Josh_Borke | what nev says |
| 13:48.07 | Mikk | Does it even do that tho? =P |
| 13:48.10 | Xinhuan | so it CAN be seen as a feature |
| 13:48.13 | nevcairiel | Mikk: yeah it does |
| 13:48.24 | Xinhuan | which is why my post is asking if its a bug |
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| 13:49.05 | nevcairiel | Anyway, its definately not going to change for 3.0.2 |
| 13:49.22 | nevcairiel | so my script will run some time to remove all LoadOnDemand tags from library .tocs |
| 13:50.00 | Josh_Borke | YES! another blow to disembedded libs |
| 13:50.11 | Mikk | >.< |
| 13:50.20 | Mikk | I like my libs disembedded thankyouverymuch |
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| 13:50.24 | Mikk | Can't fucking code if not |
| 13:50.28 | nevcairiel | so do i |
| 13:50.33 | Fisker- | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:50.34 | nevcairiel | but i dont care a bit if they are LoD |
| 13:50.45 | Josh_Borke | why can't you code if they are embedded? |
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| 13:51.39 | Mikk | because half the devs suck at upgrade paths |
| 13:51.42 | Mikk | ! |
| 13:51.57 | Josh_Borke | you shouldn't use shitty libs :-P |
| 13:52.05 | Mikk | excellent choice |
| 13:52.16 | Mikk | unfortunately, aint my choice of addons i use use shitty libs |
| 13:52.18 | nevcairiel | its only those crappy Ace2 libs that suck |
| 13:52.25 | nevcairiel | its much harder to break LS upgrade path |
| 13:52.32 | Josh_Borke | but somehow it has been done nev |
| 13:52.45 | nevcairiel | sure its possible if you try hard enough |
| 13:52.46 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 13:52.46 | Mikk | youd be surprised |
| 13:53.05 | nevcairiel | with Ace2 it was trivial to break upgrade path |
| 13:53.13 | nevcairiel | or rather, AceLibrary libs |
| 13:53.56 | Josh_Borke | http://notalwaysright.com/chippendales-the-golden-years/1280 |
| 13:54.10 | Mikk | you should take a look at LibPossessions in Skillet |
| 13:54.12 | Mikk | before i fixed it |
| 13:54.27 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 13:54.33 | nevcairiel | at least its easy to fix |
| 13:54.40 | nevcairiel | and not that shitty activate func dealy |
| 13:55.03 | Fisker- | attacks |
| 13:55.05 | nevcairiel | and new table thing |
| 13:55.07 | nevcairiel | etc |
| 13:55.10 | Adirelle|work | the first time I read about AceLibrary, I didn't understand a shit about the deactivate/activate stuff |
| 13:55.30 | Xinhuan | i wonder who thought up that stuff anyway |
| 13:55.32 | Fisker- | win Josh_Borke |
| 13:55.41 | Mikk | nevcairiel: actually, that's exactly what it did. it made a copy of the current lib object. CLEARED the current lib object. and then, erronously, copied stuff back |
| 13:56.09 | nevcairiel | Mikk: sounds like ckk wrote that lib :) |
| 13:56.31 | nevcairiel | he still did it in some of the LibStub libs he wrote =P |
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| 13:56.52 | Fisker- | http://notalwaysright.com/be-careful-what-you-ask-for-part-2/1282 |
| 13:56.53 | Fisker- | teehee |
| 13:56.56 | Adirelle|work | nevcairiel: lie |
| 13:57.01 | Xinhuan | truth |
| 13:57.04 | nevcairiel | Adirelle|work: truth |
| 13:57.08 | nevcairiel | want me to find one? |
| 13:57.10 | Xinhuan | he wrote libroster |
| 13:57.17 | Adirelle|work | can't be reality, ckk is like chuck norris =P |
| 13:57.18 | Xinhuan | and he created new tables and copied them over |
| 13:57.28 | Xinhuan | for no purpose |
| 13:57.33 | ckknight | punches Adirelle|work with his beard-fist |
| 13:57.36 | Xinhuan | he eventually went back and just reused the old table ;p |
| 13:57.54 | Adirelle|work | dodges. |
| 13:57.55 | Fisker- | punches ckknight with his beard |
| 13:58.11 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: the only reason is to "remove" funcs/data that are no longer created/used by the new version of the lib |
| 13:58.30 | Xinhuan | which could just be niled out |
| 13:58.38 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 13:58.42 | Xinhuan | lib.UselessFunction = nil |
| 13:58.52 | nevcairiel | thats why LibStub gives you oldMinor |
| 13:59.07 | nevcairiel | so you can clean house based on what revision it was before |
| 13:59.29 | nevcairiel | obviously, you never should even remove a func from an object |
| 13:59.31 | nevcairiel | imho anyway |
| 13:59.35 | nevcairiel | it breaks API and all |
| 13:59.47 | Mikk | nothing public |
| 13:59.47 | Adirelle|work | I find funny the way tek wrote LDB around oldminor |
| 14:00.00 | nevcairiel | Adirelle|work: he did it right =P |
| 14:00.06 | nevcairiel | although it looks funny |
| 14:00.15 | Adirelle|work | Mikk: it should'nt be in the object it is not public |
| 14:00.24 | Adirelle|work | nevcairiel: I know, I still find it funny ^^ |
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| 14:00.44 | nevcairiel | well he pretty much went overboard with it |
| 14:00.48 | Gu1AiR | lib folders are case sensitive? |
| 14:00.48 | nevcairiel | not everythign was needed what he did |
| 14:00.50 | nevcairiel | but still |
| 14:01.02 | Mikk | Adirelle|work: I know, but it's not entirely uncommon either way |
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| 14:01.40 | Mikk | Gu1AiR: Yes and no. On windows they aren't. |
| 14:01.47 | Adirelle|work | actually LDB is so small that it's a bit overkill IMO |
| 14:02.15 | Fisker- | kisses nevcairiel on the mouth and pukes |
| 14:02.16 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 14:02.37 | Adirelle|work | Fisker-: "trop classe" |
| 14:03.45 | Xinhuan | does fubar work on patch 3? |
| 14:03.49 | Xinhuan | i haven't actually tried |
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| 14:04.01 | Gu1AiR | Mikk: i had to rename LibBaggage-1.0 from libbaggage-1 otherwise it wouldn't work |
| 14:04.03 | nevcairiel | i dont use fubar anymore, so dunno |
| 14:04.12 | Gu1AiR | libbaggage-1 is extracted from the curse download |
| 14:04.36 | Fisker- | i'm not french Adirelle|work ;_; |
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| 14:05.02 | Adirelle|work | I know |
| 14:05.22 | Shane|Work | nevcairiel: I don't use fubar either, just f2b and Fortress, or cargoShip from WowInt (that one lets you code your LDB displays in a way similar to oUF) |
| 14:05.36 | Adirelle|work | that means something like "you have too much class" |
| 14:05.47 | Shane|Work | I only have f2b for older addons that still provide a fubar config-launcher |
| 14:05.52 | Adirelle|work | that was ironic ofc |
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| 14:06.13 | nevcairiel | Gu1AiR: that was an error in that lib, i fixed it now |
| 14:06.56 | Xinhuan | ok how come Repo reported in the other channel but not here |
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| 14:07.07 | nevcairiel | because its a CF project |
| 14:07.09 | Gu1AiR | :) |
| 14:07.21 | Xinhuan | o_o |
| 14:08.43 | nevcairiel | wtb UI and Class panel streams from today =( |
| 14:09.07 | Shane|Work | is anyone liveblogging it on twitter or the like? |
| 14:09.13 | Gu1AiR | wowradio |
| 14:09.27 | Gu1AiR | i could not find a stream this year |
| 14:09.27 | nevcairiel | stupid blizz, selling their streaming rights to some sucky US company that doesnt even offer internet streams |
| 14:09.47 | Zyndrome | "We are now forcing the default UI forever, due to arena." |
| 14:10.14 | Adirelle|work | NOW EVERYONE PANICS |
| 14:10.23 | Adirelle|work | =p |
| 14:11.07 | Stanzilla | ui panel is first, right? |
| 14:11.23 | nevcairiel | after opening, yeah |
| 14:11.37 | Adirelle|work | and classes panel last |
| 14:11.44 | Adirelle|work | oh no, wait |
| 14:11.54 | Adirelle|work | there is two class panel apparently |
| 14:12.01 | nevcairiel | yeah one today and one tomorrow |
| 14:12.17 | Gu1AiR | opening is in 1hr? |
| 14:12.29 | Stanzilla | "we will buff shadow priest dps to be above warlock dps" kthxbye |
| 14:12.35 | Fisker- | splits hairs with nevcairiel |
| 14:12.40 | Adirelle|work | and I still learn2quicklywriteproperenglish, I'm sorry to impose you that |
| 14:12.52 | Adirelle|work | I still have to*, damn it |
| 14:13.01 | Stanzilla | :D |
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| 14:14.07 | Adirelle|work | notice that every I write wrong french on the guild channel I remember our guildmaster is a french teacher... |
| 14:14.18 | Repo | 10announcer: 03zebulac * r3 / (9 files in 9 directories): Added .pkgmeta |
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| 14:16.22 | Stanzilla | w00t |
| 14:16.29 | Stanzilla | the latest thunderbird nightly has tabs |
| 14:16.35 | Shane|Work | hotness |
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| 14:17.13 | Shane|Work | for the WowRadio stream do i just want the "listen with your media player" link? |
| 14:19.04 | Gu1AiR | yes but it has no broadcast until the panels start |
| 14:19.24 | Gu1AiR | as of now there is music |
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| 14:20.08 | Shane|Work | that .pls file doesn't seem to work, I'm on OSX, should I try VLC instead of iTunes? |
| 14:20.26 | Gu1AiR | i open it with vlc |
| 14:20.38 | Gu1AiR | dunno about OSX sorry :) |
| 14:20.41 | Shane|Work | yeah, that worked |
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| 14:24.28 | Arrowmaster | tabs in thunderbird? wtf? |
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| 14:30.05 | Xinhuan | .pls? |
| 14:30.12 | Xinhuan | i just use windows media player |
| 14:30.18 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 14:30.25 | Gu1AiR | shame on you |
| 14:30.35 | ShaneSveller | Xinhuan: OSX doesn't have that particular infestation |
| 14:30.36 | Gu1AiR | wmp is blasphemy |
| 14:30.39 | ShaneSveller | =P |
| 14:31.21 | Xinhuan | oh windows isn't THAT bad! |
| 14:31.29 | Xinhuan | still get 150 fps in ironforge hehe |
| 14:31.32 | quiescens | gasp |
| 14:31.33 | Gu1AiR | its not about windows |
| 14:31.41 | Gu1AiR | just wmp and IE |
| 14:31.52 | pentium166 | especially ie6! |
| 14:34.41 | ShaneSveller | frankly, i don't care to do end-user support for anyone dumb enough to still use ie6 |
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| 14:36.17 | ShaneSveller | huh, anyone ever checked out the Digsby app on windows? |
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| 14:36.23 | ShaneSveller | it's fairly slick |
| 14:37.32 | Zyndrome | yarr, been using Digsby for a while |
| 14:37.38 | Zyndrome | poops on MSN Messenger |
| 14:38.07 | ShaneSveller | was looking for something to watch twitter with on my work desktop and decided to have a go with it, I like it a lot so far, particularly the tray icons per service |
| 14:38.11 | Fisker- | farts on Zyndrome |
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| 14:38.53 | Zhinjio | how do you get a macro to cast the spell specified on yourself? |
| 14:38.58 | Zhinjio | I thought it was just [target=self] |
| 14:39.11 | ShaneSveller | that's what i thought |
| 14:39.16 | ShaneSveller | unless it's target:self maybe |
| 14:39.21 | Cheads | target=player |
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| 14:40.38 | Fisker- | shoves Zyndrome on the ground and pulls him up to a curb |
| 14:40.58 | Kolie | now now Fisker-: play nice. |
| 14:40.59 | Fisker- | puts on his stomping boots |
| 14:41.05 | KriLL3 | I don't need to target myself to cast on myself, if my target is hostile beneficial spells end up on me, or if I have no target at all |
| 14:41.06 | Zyndrome | god-emotes out of the situation |
| 14:41.16 | Fisker- | :( |
| 14:41.29 | ShaneSveller | kolie: sorry to ambush you, last night when visiting pages like http://www.wowace.com/projects/closet-gnome/files/475-r564/ and using the install via cc link, it didn't reflect the version page i was on, it just chose the latest release |
| 14:41.37 | ShaneSveller | with the updated version of the .14 build |
| 14:41.48 | Kolie | Thats what it does. |
| 14:42.00 | Kolie | It installs from the project feed. |
| 14:42.49 | Kolie | I recommend setting the addon to "alpha" in the curse client |
| 14:42.57 | Gu1AiR | Kolie: did you attend the meal? |
| 14:43.03 | Kolie | meal? |
| 14:43.15 | Gu1AiR | or whatever was that with blizzard |
| 14:43.15 | Fisker- | He's asking you if you eat |
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| 14:43.31 | fewyn | hmmm |
| 14:43.32 | KriLL3 | a veiled way to ask if you're a robot |
| 14:43.37 | Kolie | I'm not in my home of california, thanks for reminding me ;) |
| 14:43.46 | ShaneSveller | Kolie: It seemed to me like that should be installing the version i was looking at if i was on a particular release |
| 14:43.59 | fewyn | Kolie: does CC have a log window of what's it doing/downloading? |
| 14:44.01 | Kolie | ShaneSveller: I said the same thing, not currently what it does. |
| 14:44.12 | Kolie | fewyn: kind of, the activity button. |
| 14:44.13 | ShaneSveller | Kolie: so that's planned? |
| 14:44.26 | fewyn | ah |
| 14:44.29 | fewyn | that should be fine |
| 14:44.32 | Kolie | ShaneSveller: its being mulled over. its low on the list |
| 14:45.09 | ShaneSveller | wouldn't it mostly be a matter of adding another variable to the URL and reflecting that within the client? or is it considerably more complex than that? |
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| 14:45.42 | Kolie | It's |___| much more complex then you think. |
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| 14:46.07 | Kolie | And it takes a coordinated effort, I make the change, release, then wowace changes the site. |
| 14:46.09 | Funkeh` | hi |
| 14:46.23 | Kolie | And the person to do that is at blizzcon |
| 14:46.41 | Kolie | And what happens when updates roll around? do you update? Do you freeze at the version? |
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| 14:47.17 | Stanzilla | licks Funkeh` |
| 14:47.17 | ShaneSveller | meaning if i install a given release and a new one comes later, do you update it? |
| 14:48.01 | nevcairiel | Kolie: maybe remove the install buttons from the individual versions in the meantime :P |
| 14:48.03 | ShaneSveller | well, in any case, it only bothered me because the client also didn't seem to reflect my version preference, since it was set for alpha |
| 14:48.03 | fewyn | everyone important enough to do things is always at blizzcon |
| 14:48.06 | Hjalte | I'm having a discussion with some random idiot on my server; How much harder is heroic magisters compared to other "hard" heroics (eg. shattered halls)? |
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| 14:49.10 | Fisker- | captures Zeksie |
| 14:49.18 | Zeksie | denied! |
| 14:51.33 | KriLL3 | anyone knows a way for us non US ppl to watch the blizzcon event? I can't even pay to view it... :z |
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| 14:51.47 | ShaneSveller | KriLL3: i'm told you can get an audio stream on wowradio |
| 14:52.24 | Gu1AiR | audio stream not video |
| 14:52.27 | Gu1AiR | when the panels start |
| 14:52.46 | KriLL3 | audio, smaudio, I wantz the video! :< |
| 14:53.16 | Gu1AiR | no video except for the gaming tournaments |
| 14:53.27 | Fisker- | i'd rather eat Zyndrome that listen to wowradio >:3 |
| 14:53.32 | Fisker- | Also no video = fail :( |
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| 14:53.45 | KriLL3 | I guess someone will upload a rip of the pay per view thing |
| 14:53.51 | Zyndrome | fgdsfgds |
| 14:53.55 | fewyn | I'll have pictures from blizzcon all day at http://wow.allakhazam.com/wiki/Blizzcon_2008_Photo_Gallery |
| 14:54.00 | fewyn | it'll be updated throughout the day |
| 14:54.05 | Gu1AiR | i really loved Bunny from last year |
| 14:55.11 | Fisker- | If you see Tigole tell him imma coming |
| 14:55.49 | Fisker- | And tackle Eyonix for me |
| 14:55.50 | Fisker- | >:E |
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| 14:56.04 | fewyn | I'm not actually there |
| 14:56.34 | fewyn | I'm getting sent pictures throughout the day from people on staff at Alla so I can post them as they come |
| 14:57.11 | Fisker- | beats up fewyn |
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| 14:57.29 | Gu1AiR | well those two girls are hot |
| 14:57.33 | Gu1AiR | good job |
| 14:57.36 | fewyn | i r not thar |
| 14:57.41 | fewyn | i am not taking the pictures |
| 14:57.57 | fewyn | These where all taken by Wordaen |
| 14:58.03 | KriLL3 | beat him up |
| 14:58.12 | fewyn | =p |
| 14:59.40 | Gu1AiR | its not even 8am yet in anaheim |
| 15:00.10 | Fisker- | oh but it is! |
| 15:00.12 | fewyn | those where from yesterday |
| 15:00.22 | fewyn | da pre-game show! |
| 15:00.27 | Fisker- | oh but they "wher'ent" fewyn |
| 15:00.28 | Fisker- | HOHO |
| 15:00.31 | ShaneSveller | IncGamers is liveblogging the con http://www.worldofwar.net/articles/417691/blizzcon-2008-live-blog |
| 15:00.39 | Fisker- | gtfo |
| 15:00.47 | ShaneSveller | using CoverItLive, which Major Nelson used for the TGS earlier this week, worked great for me |
| 15:01.13 | Fisker- | Everyone at IncGamers can go slash their wrists open and die |
| 15:01.20 | Fisker- | >:E |
| 15:01.34 | Gu1AiR | wow fisker you are wild |
| 15:01.36 | quiescens | so violent |
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| 15:02.00 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 15:02.02 | fewyn | Allakhazam > IncGamers! |
| 15:02.15 | Gu1AiR | definately IncGamers don't have girls yet |
| 15:02.15 | Fisker- | http://www.blizzplanet.com/ <-will be liveblogging as well |
| 15:02.17 | Fisker- | but fewyn |
| 15:02.22 | Fisker- | * > IncGamers |
| 15:02.33 | Adirelle|work | Kolie: is there some publicly available version of the CC beta newer than |
| 15:02.33 | Adirelle|work | 2.0.0.13 ? |
| 15:02.33 | fewyn | =p |
| 15:02.42 | Fisker- | Even the Evil Twin counterpart of IncGamers > IncGamers |
| 15:03.02 | jaxdahl2 | halls open at 10am pacific right? |
| 15:03.28 | Hjalte | Adirelle|work: I'm using 2.0.0.14, but it might just be linked in this channel or #curseforge. Do you want me to send it to you? |
| 15:03.33 | Fisker- | i think so |
| 15:03.37 | Fisker- | but no show until 11am |
| 15:03.45 | Adirelle|work | Hjalte: yes please |
| 15:03.48 | Fisker- | tournament wise that is |
| 15:03.53 | Fisker- | there's the opening cerimony of course |
| 15:03.59 | Gu1AiR | opening ceremony is at 10am |
| 15:04.16 | Corgan | BYE FISKER |
| 15:04.20 | Corgan | I'M GOING TO BLIZZCON |
| 15:04.21 | Gu1AiR | 11am actually |
| 15:04.26 | Corgan | waves |
| 15:04.31 | Fisker- | hi Corgan |
| 15:04.34 | Gu1AiR | quick fisker |
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| 15:04.38 | Gu1AiR | punish him |
| 15:04.41 | Fisker- | oh yes |
| 15:04.45 | Fisker- | curbstomps Corgan |
| 15:04.47 | Corgan | Too bad |
| 15:04.49 | Corgan | I'm already gone |
| 15:04.50 | sb_ | mhh |
| 15:05.19 | Adirelle|work | Hjalte: DDC might not work here (FW + SSH tunneling), |
| 15:05.32 | sb | nevcairiel: are alphas syndicated to curse? |
| 15:05.39 | nevcairiel | no |
| 15:05.54 | sb | then i dont understand the "alpha" option in my curse client :/ |
| 15:05.59 | Hjalte | Adirelle|work: I found the link I used: http://static.curseforge.net/client/CurseSetup-2.0.0.14.exe |
| 15:06.03 | Kolie | You have a pre release test copy. |
| 15:06.13 | Hjalte | Yeah, I do. |
| 15:06.19 | Adirelle|work | neat, I'll test it |
| 15:06.53 | thul | pkeylooool |
| 15:06.55 | thul | WHERE ARE YOU?! |
| 15:07.00 | Hjalte | It works here. I like how it started updating addons once I switched to Global Release Preference: Beta :) |
| 15:08.26 | Kolie | I just confirmed that alphas wont be in the addon service for a lil bit. |
| 15:08.52 | Kolie | The client is ready for it, but the addon service needs a bit of tweaking to put that in apparently. |
| 15:09.10 | Adirelle|work | I'll test it later, I have to go home now |
| 15:09.14 | ShaneSveller | Kolie: gotcha, that explains my issues last night |
| 15:09.39 | Kolie | Setting it wont hurt. |
| 15:09.53 | Kolie | If you pick alpha, you'll get them if and when the come, otherwise it tries beta, and then lastly releases. |
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| 15:11.10 | sb | Kolie: mhh okay... so if i update to alpha manually it wont overwrite that data until a new beta or release version is syndicated to curse, correct? |
| 15:11.13 | sb | so no problem :p |
| 15:11.39 | Adirelle|work | later |
| 15:12.32 | Kolie | correct. |
| 15:12.56 | Kolie | Which means there is something newer then what you installed. |
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| 15:13.01 | Kolie | So probably old anyways. |
| 15:13.22 | Kolie | So you can manually apply that alpha fix, and it will go to the "release" when its ready. |
| 15:14.02 | ShaneSveller | alpha fix? |
| 15:14.33 | sb | Kolie: yup, but if its some release -> alpha -> alpha -> release cycle |
| 15:14.46 | Kolie | Your addon breaks. Developer pushes out an "alpha" copy. You manually install it. |
| 15:14.54 | sb | and i just get the alpha, it would only be updated when that new release (which includes alpha changes) is released :p |
| 15:15.02 | Kolie | Then he tests it a bit more, fixes some stuff, makes it release. |
| 15:15.05 | sb | yup |
| 15:15.10 | Gu1AiR | Stage 3 is available for downloading on the background downloader |
| 15:15.12 | Kolie | Client overwrites the manual installed fix as expected. |
| 15:15.19 | sb | okay, thats perfect |
| 15:15.21 | ShaneSveller | ok |
| 15:15.29 | ShaneSveller | Gu1AiR: yup, I got it this morning before work |
| 15:15.33 | Kolie | This is why we dont use the filesystem :) |
| 15:15.35 | sb | updater is broken :/ |
| 15:15.40 | sb | stuck at 99% |
| 15:15.47 | sb | (wow stage 3 dl) |
| 15:16.06 | ShaneSveller | ./facepalm I forgot to load openssh-server on my fresh ubuntu install last night |
| 15:17.04 | winkiller | how? it's running by default |
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| 15:18.52 | ShaneSveller | winkiller: well unless the ufw also blocks 22 by default, no, it didn't |
| 15:19.04 | winkiller | sounds very strange |
| 15:19.08 | winkiller | I never ever had that |
| 15:19.15 | winkiller | oh wait |
| 15:19.20 | winkiller | you mean.. desktop? |
| 15:19.25 | winkiller | could be then |
| 15:19.51 | [SW]Dodge | ubuntu desktop has no ssh server by default :S |
| 15:19.52 | ShaneSveller | winkiller: right, i have a server box and i just put a new copy of hardy on my desktop after messing with the Intrepid beta for a bit |
| 15:20.04 | ShaneSveller | winkiller: i was tunneling through my server to the desktop to no avail |
| 15:20.28 | winkiller | then go do work instead of playin with your homeserver :P |
| 15:20.56 | eraserhead | Pitbull: Is there a way to add latency to the cast bar? Ive seen it suggested to put quartz underneath it. |
| 15:21.18 | winkiller | that's just a sick idea :P |
| 15:21.38 | ShaneSveller | winkiller: but, but, i want to get into a WIP addon i forgot to commit from my desktop! |
| 15:21.48 | Gu1AiR | eraserhead: why not use quartz as a single castbar? |
| 15:21.52 | winkiller | fail :P |
| 15:22.03 | [SW]Dodge | eraserhead: afaik it is not possible, i just moved my quartz below my unitframe and disabled the pb cast bar :) |
| 15:22.42 | [SW]Dodge | eraserhead: it looks like it is the pb castbar but with swing, gcd and latency :D |
| 15:22.43 | eraserhead | OK thnx for the suggestions Dodge thats what Ill do |
| 15:22.44 | ShaneSveller | winkiller: trust me i know |
| 15:22.45 | Zhinjio | eraserhead: what Dodge said. |
| 15:22.48 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 15:23.10 | [SW]Dodge | Zhinjio: didnt read what you said :P |
| 15:23.23 | [SW]Dodge | i just saw his question ;) |
| 15:23.28 | winkiller | load average: 0.91, 0.73, 0.58 |
| 15:23.32 | winkiller | speaking of ubuntu server :P |
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| 15:23.47 | winkiller | php5.3.0-alpha2 works \o/ |
| 15:24.00 | fewyn | \o/ |
| 15:24.01 | Fisker- | harasses winkiller |
| 15:24.13 | winkiller | hai2u |
| 15:24.38 | winkiller | 39 Zaxxis insignia to exalted |
| 15:24.48 | ShaneSveller | winkiller: current project is ipv6 tunnel between home server on a static ip and remote VPS |
| 15:25.04 | winkiller | mhm |
| 15:25.11 | winkiller | no room for home server here |
| 15:25.16 | winkiller | flat is too small :P |
| 15:25.35 | winkiller | instant girl aggro I'd say |
| 15:25.52 | ShaneSveller | winkiller: i built mine in a SFF case, 2x500GB sata, amd x2 6000+ and a compact flash card on a sata adapter, 4GB DDR2800 |
| 15:26.03 | winkiller | lol |
| 15:26.06 | ShaneSveller | winkiller: had to put an extra fan in that mounts in PCI slot |
| 15:26.09 | winkiller | my last home server was my P200MMX |
| 15:26.12 | ShaneSveller | little bugger gets hot |
| 15:26.14 | winkiller | 2y ago |
| 15:27.22 | ShaneSveller | PDT is GMT-8 right? |
| 15:27.57 | winkiller | never heard PDT in my life |
| 15:28.23 | Zhinjio | pacific daylight time, and yes, I believe thats correct |
| 15:28.23 | ShaneSveller | erm, whatever US pacific is? |
| 15:28.29 | winkiller | ah daylight :P |
| 15:28.30 | ShaneSveller | thanks |
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| 15:29.07 | ShaneSveller | first panel is at 10:30 local? |
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| 15:29.53 | fewyn | opening ceremony is 11am |
| 15:29.55 | fewyn | pst |
| 15:30.00 | fewyn | so 2.5 more hours |
| 15:30.03 | winkiller | ceremny lol |
| 15:30.13 | Repo | 10baggins_closet-gnome: 03Nayala * r35 Baggins_ClosetGnome.toc: Reimport from my SVN |
| 15:30.16 | fewyn | first panel is at 12 |
| 15:30.21 | fewyn | which is world of warcraft ui |
| 15:30.23 | ShaneSveller | gotcha, plenty of time for me then |
| 15:30.28 | fewyn | Entire lineup is here http://wow.allakhazam.com/wiki/Category:Blizzcon_2008 |
| 15:30.32 | ShaneSveller | to go get lunch with the girlfriend |
| 15:30.38 | winkiller | actually I'm quite glad I'm not even tempted to go there :P |
| 15:30.39 | ShaneSveller | fewyn: thanks |
| 15:31.02 | fewyn | I'll be covering it from afar and posting things to the wiki the rest of the weekend |
| 15:31.08 | ShaneSveller | I think i'll skip the d3 sections and read about it |
| 15:33.13 | jaxdahl2 | PDT is -7 |
| 15:33.16 | jaxdahl2 | PST is -8 |
| 15:33.20 | jaxdahl2 | it's currently PDT |
| 15:34.05 | Gu1AiR | 8.33am in anaheim |
| 15:34.08 | jaxdahl2 | correct |
| 15:34.28 | Kolie | yawn. |
| 15:34.34 | jaxdahl2 | it changes to PST 1st sunday of november |
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| 15:37.53 | sb | meh - downloader sucks :) |
| 15:37.58 | sb | there were multiple problems saving data |
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| 15:40.52 | Fisker- | funny they haven't fixed the problem yet |
| 15:41.03 | winkiller | CC is in ur wow. shardin ur dataz |
| 15:41.41 | p3lim | is there any events that I can use to update something when my pet (hunter) is summoned/picked out of stables? |
| 15:42.37 | sb | mhh okay, at least 8 more addons that need LDB support :p |
| 15:43.45 | ShaneSveller | sb: ldb is like crack, isn't it? |
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| 15:44.25 | sb | uhm... huh? :) |
| 15:45.25 | sb | pb_ee1! elephant wants to have LDB support ;) |
| 15:47.29 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal * r19 / (4 files in 1 directory): complete version |
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| 15:50.47 | Repo | 10ads: 03Zikko * r1 / (5 files in 1 directory): second test with pkgmeta |
| 15:50.48 | Repo | initial release |
| 15:52.32 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6178009098&sid=1#12 >:3 |
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| 15:57.44 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal 04Beta * r20 : creating Beta Tag |
| 15:58.04 | Repo | 10announcer: 03zebulac 04v1.0 * r4 : Tagging as v1.0. |
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| 16:04.19 | Repo | 10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 06wrath 07master * 89715aa / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add optional LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 support (if detected). |
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| 16:09.14 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r86 / (13 files in 10 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 16:09.14 | Repo | - Standardize xml format |
| 16:09.15 | Repo | - Update to data miner and cache (not ready for primetime for 2.4.3, but will be used instead of build after 3.0.2 releases) |
| 16:09.20 | Repo | - Made libstub minor revisions etc 90000 + current revision |
| 16:11.11 | kenlyric | facepalm |
| 16:11.20 | Xinhuan | why kenlyric? |
| 16:11.29 | kenlyric | nothing |
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| 16:13.55 | Repo | ZOMGBuffs: Tidied up Spell Change detection (respeccing and such), and fixed such things as Earth Shield not clearing from active icon and tracking icons when un-learned. |
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| 16:14.30 | Arrowmaster | Zeksie: you kill me you know |
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| 16:20.23 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal * r21 / (2 files in 1 directory): complete version |
| 16:21.30 | Repo | 10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander 044.5.116-release * r116 : Tagging as 4.5.116-release. |
| 16:21.50 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander 042.5.81-release * r81 : Tagging as 2.5.81-release. |
| 16:22.04 | Repo | 10stable: 03LordFarlander 042.5.57-release * r57 : Tagging as 2.5.57-release. |
| 16:22.31 | Repo | 10producer: 03Grayal * r2 / (12 files in 1 directory): first alpha version |
| 16:22.45 | Repo | 10producer: 03Grayal * r3 .pkgmeta: first alpha version |
| 16:23.02 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander 042.0.87-release * r87 : Tagging as 2.0.87-release. |
| 16:24.02 | Xinhuan | @project omen-threat-meter |
| 16:24.02 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/omen-threat-meter/. Omen Threat Meter. Game: WoW. Leader: Antiarc. Authors: Nevcairiel, Arrowmaster, anmoch, Xinhuan. Updated: 5 hours ago |
| 16:24.15 | Xinhuan | 5 hours? |
| 16:24.33 | nevcairiel | ckk changed the display |
| 16:24.52 | fewyn | http://www.mytelus.com/ncp_news/article.en.do?pn=tech&articleID=3010829 |
| 16:25.12 | ckknight | 5 hours? that makes no sense |
| 16:25.15 | Xinhuan | display of what? |
| 16:25.24 | Arrowmaster | that reminds me, why am i on omen but not threat-2.0, i worked on threat-2.0 not omen |
| 16:25.31 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal * r22 : complete version |
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| 16:25.44 | Repo | 10stable: 03LordFarlander 042.1.58-release * r58 : Tagging as 2.1.58-release. |
| 16:25.44 | Xinhuan | cos nevcairiel put you on it |
| 16:25.54 | nevcairiel | threat-2.0 is gone in a week |
| 16:26.05 | nevcairiel | also add yourself if you want :P |
| 16:26.05 | Arrowmaster | actaully anti put me on it for wotlk beta |
| 16:26.12 | Xinhuan | so anyway, why is there a 5 hour last updated timing? |
| 16:26.18 | Arrowmaster | i will but im about to walk out the door and goto class right now |
| 16:26.29 | Xinhuan | did something actually get updated about it? |
| 16:26.33 | fewyn | threat-2.0 is gone in a week? |
| 16:26.51 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 16:26.53 | Repo | 10stable: 03LordFarlander 042.5.57-release * r59 : Stable: |
| 16:26.53 | Repo | - Darnit tagged with the wrong version number again |
| 16:27.01 | nevcairiel | ckknight the damn file importer is _still_ running? man.. |
| 16:27.10 | ckknight | nevcairiel: 52 gigs! |
| 16:27.11 | fewyn | xD |
| 16:27.25 | Arrowmaster | i swear im going ninja remove his damn tsvn:logtemplates |
| 16:27.27 | Repo | 10producer: 03Grayal * r4 : first alpha version |
| 16:27.28 | Xinhuan | @project threat-2-0 |
| 16:27.28 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/threat-2-0/. Threat-2.0. Game: WoW. Leader: Antiarc. Authors: Nevcairiel, anmoch, Xinhuan. Updated: 18 hours ago |
| 16:28.01 | nevcairiel | 18 hours sounds like my script package |
| 16:28.01 | Arrowmaster | ok out |
| 16:28.10 | Arrowmaster | be back when i get to school in 30m |
| 16:28.16 | Matrix110| | The Curse Client fails it wont display me any updates even when set to alpha after 3. Oct |
| 16:28.18 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 16:28.34 | Arrowmaster | curse client only supports releases right now |
| 16:28.47 | nevcairiel | the .14 also supports beta |
| 16:28.48 | Matrix110| | .14 has a useless option then? :D |
| 16:28.57 | Xinhuan | so blizzcon starts in 2 hours yeah? |
| 16:29.00 | nevcairiel | alpha is supported by the client |
| 16:29.06 | nevcairiel | but not by the website backend |
| 16:29.06 | Arrowmaster | why? |
| 16:29.13 | Gu1AiR | 1hr 15mins |
| 16:29.14 | Arrowmaster | ok seriously out now or ill be late |
| 16:29.23 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster: need to book your mount most likely |
| 16:29.28 | Xinhuan | haven't found anyone yet |
| 16:29.35 | Xinhuan | all ended up buying for themselves! |
| 16:29.36 | nevcairiel | he is gone :p |
| 16:29.49 | Xinhuan | i was only 8 secs slow :( |
| 16:29.49 | nevcairiel | i want the damn stream for the stream |
| 16:29.52 | nevcairiel | not for mounts |
| 16:30.01 | nevcairiel | but cannot has :( |
| 16:30.02 | fewyn | you're all wrong, blizzcon starts in 30 minutes |
| 16:30.13 | fewyn | 11am pst for opening ceremony |
| 16:30.25 | Matrix110| | and we have to wait for somebodys cap |
| 16:30.27 | Matrix110| | awesome |
| 16:30.27 | Xinhuan | that's 1.5 hours isn't it |
| 16:30.31 | fewyn | no |
| 16:30.34 | fewyn | it's 30 minutes |
| 16:30.36 | Xinhuan | says 9.30 am server time on my PSt server |
| 16:30.41 | fewyn | huh |
| 16:30.42 | Xinhuan | (blackrock) |
| 16:30.47 | fewyn | am i doing my math wrong again? |
| 16:30.56 | fewyn | pst is 3 hours behind est isn't it? |
| 16:31.02 | Xinhuan | are you suggesting blizzard's pacific server time is wrong? ;p |
| 16:31.35 | fewyn | maybe? |
| 16:31.36 | Repo | 10producer: 03Grayal * r5 LICENSE.txt: first alpha version |
| 16:31.43 | fewyn | my math is wrong |
| 16:31.51 | fewyn | i thought pst is 3 hours behind est |
| 16:31.58 | sacarasc | 1 + 1 = 2 |
| 16:32.22 | nevcairiel | its 9:30 now, yeah |
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| 16:36.35 | Fisker- | blows up world |
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| 16:37.05 | EthanCentaurai | no don't do that Fisker-, my plans for domination haven't come to fruition yet :( |
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| 16:41.58 | Zeksie | Anyone know of erm... what I'd call a 'Safe Trade' addon? ie: disable the trade button for say 2 seconds after the window contents change. to stop those ppl that spam change them at the last second? |
| 16:42.05 | Zyndrome | god Vista is such a massive pile of bile |
| 16:42.31 | Zeksie | nah Zyndrome: properly configured (ie: turn a load of shit off), it's pretty good |
| 16:42.51 | Zyndrome | my bro is having his friends over for a LAN |
| 16:43.02 | Zyndrome | and one got Vista, and can not in any way get access to the network |
| 16:43.10 | Xinhuan | Zeksie, default UI already does that |
| 16:43.25 | nevcairiel | Zyndrome: probably set his network to "public", that blocks alot of shit |
| 16:43.31 | nevcairiel | Zyndrome: try if ping at least works :P |
| 16:43.31 | Xinhuan | wel it doesn't actually disable the button |
| 16:43.41 | Zeksie | mmm. no it doesn't... i'm talking about it disabling the Trade button for 2 seconds after the contants change, then re-enabling it |
| 16:43.42 | Zyndrome | doublechecking again |
| 16:43.43 | Xinhuan | but it removes your confirmation |
| 16:44.03 | Zeksie | yes. but ppl still get caught out, especially if you're a bit lagged |
| 16:44.21 | Xinhuan | not possible to get caught even if you're super lagged |
| 16:44.25 | Xinhuan | the client auto unconfirms |
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| 16:44.46 | Zyndrome | nevcairiel : private, check. can ping router, check. |
| 16:44.55 | Zeksie | not convinced it's unpossible. was just a thought |
| 16:44.58 | nevcairiel | firewall? |
| 16:45.03 | Zyndrome | none |
| 16:45.10 | Zeksie | workgroup name ? |
| 16:45.26 | Zyndrome | Muhammed Allahu Akbar |
| 16:45.37 | Xinhuan | i haven't actually heard of anybody falling for any such "last minute change" trick yet |
| 16:45.42 | Zeksie | no.. i mean isit the same ;) |
| 16:45.59 | Zyndrome | I think it has the default one "WORKGROUP" |
| 16:45.59 | Zeksie | i have. but it's only hearsay. so i can't comment on the exact situation |
| 16:46.26 | Zyndrome | hmmmmm ... *sudden revelation* |
| 16:46.30 | nevcairiel | Zyndrome: double check the firewall is off, make sure the "Client for Microsoft Network" is actually enabled |
| 16:46.36 | nevcairiel | *windows firewall |
| 16:46.47 | Zeksie | now i'm gonna go back to finding this display issue in x-perl.. :| |
| 16:46.50 | nevcairiel | I've had so many people claim "I HAS NO FIREWALL" and their windows fw was on anway |
| 16:47.17 | Zeksie | that was the first thing i turned off.. |
| 16:47.48 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: That doesn't contradict what they said, but that's a different story ;) |
| 16:47.56 | nevcairiel | SunTsu: shush |
| 16:47.57 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 16:48.09 | SunTsu | shuts up |
| 16:48.30 | nevcairiel | Last LAN was the first time i actually had someone who disabled his client for microsoft networks and the file sharing service, and he was wondering why it didnt work |
| 16:48.40 | nevcairiel | they blamed my precious network already |
| 16:49.10 | chexsum_ | get you act together |
| 16:49.15 | chexsum_ | make it work |
| 16:51.41 | Zyndrome | well, fuck it I got raid now |
| 16:51.55 | chexsum_ | you wont find sympathy here |
| 16:52.52 | Zyndrome | nevcairiel , what's funny is that Vista-computer only find my media-sharing on my computer (for the xbox360) :p |
| 16:53.07 | Zyndrome | but nothing else works |
| 16:53.15 | nevcairiel | sounds like file sharing is turned off |
| 16:53.22 | nevcairiel | media sharing is a different service, iirc |
| 16:53.24 | Zyndrome | I jump on the bandwagon and go with "Vista sucks" :p |
| 16:53.28 | Zyndrome | cause I got raid now |
| 16:53.40 | chexsum_ | sp1 is retarded |
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| 16:53.47 | nevcairiel | people that run a OS and don't know how to use it suck, independant of which OS |
| 16:53.50 | chexsum_ | i cant even watch a friggin movie |
| 16:54.05 | chexsum_ | nev, dont be like that |
| 16:54.18 | chexsum_ | this is gatesville |
| 16:54.19 | Tornhoof | he's right though |
| 16:54.20 | Tornhoof | ;) |
| 16:54.32 | chexsum_ | no |
| 16:55.13 | chexsum_ | people who know windows are retarded |
| 16:55.24 | Sliker_Hawk | [17:53] <chexsum_> nev, dont be like that |
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| 16:56.16 | chexsum_ | knowing windows is like admitting youre gay |
| 16:56.35 | chexsum_ | i could have been cruder |
| 16:56.47 | chexsum_ | gay receiver |
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| 17:00.17 | ramoz | so |
| 17:00.26 | ramoz | who broke SickOfClickingDailies? |
| 17:00.45 | ramoz | says FR localization is broken |
| 17:00.46 | chexsum_ | yourmomma of azeroth |
| 17:00.50 | ramoz | No wai! |
| 17:01.07 | chexsum_ | are you aclling me a liar ? |
| 17:01.14 | ramoz | are you a liar? |
| 17:01.38 | chexsum_ | if i said no would you believe me ? |
| 17:01.51 | ramoz | Depends if you're telling the truth or not.. |
| 17:02.05 | chexsum_ | so you think im a liar?@?@?@? |
| 17:02.19 | chexsum_ | yes r no |
| 17:03.09 | chexsum_ | ~google yourmomma |
| 17:03.20 | ramoz | I have no opinion about the issue. |
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| 17:03.43 | chexsum_ | !google yourmomma |
| 17:03.48 | chexsum_ | purl |
| 17:03.56 | chexsum_ | you are lesbo |
| 17:04.01 | Josh_Borke | ~hug Cairenn |
| 17:04.02 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Cairenn |
| 17:04.18 | chexsum_ | ~wtf |
| 17:04.30 | chexsum_ | oh crap shes pming me |
| 17:05.09 | Hjalte | I'm getting a "There was multiple problems saving data" error in the Blizzard Background Downloader :\ |
| 17:05.23 | Josh_Borke | Hjalte: are you out of disk-space? |
| 17:05.34 | chexsum_ | you need to reinstall debian |
| 17:05.42 | Hjalte | Josh_Borke: Not at all, I almost haven't got anything else installed on that drive. |
| 17:06.13 | *** join/#wowace KriLL3 (n=KriLL3@unaffiliated/krill3) |
| 17:06.19 | Hjalte | Maybe it doesnt like files larger than 1,5 GB or something. |
| 17:06.37 | Shane|AFK | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.53 | Hjalte | Shane|AFK: Windows XP Pro 32-bit |
| 17:06.54 | chexsum_ | 666 |
| 17:06.59 | Shane|AFK | Hjalte: cause on my vista the default downloader saves everything in C:\Users\Public\Docs\Blizz\ instead of the drive/folder where WoW |
| 17:07.12 | Shane|AFK | is* |
| 17:07.18 | chexsum_ | ~fubar |
| 17:07.19 | purl | fubar is f*cked up beyond any recognition, e.g. "This whole operation is fubar, soldier" (gay lisp included), or a Bar addon like Titan Panel and Telo's Infobar. |
| 17:07.53 | chexsum_ | ~fubar is also and everything. |
| 17:07.54 | purl | okay, chexsum_ |
| 17:07.54 | Belazor | Weird it saves it in public and not <username> |
| 17:08.00 | Hjalte | Shane|AFK: Both of my drives have more than enough space. The downloader is just downloading more and more but it won't complete more than 1.5 GB of 1.57 GB. |
| 17:08.20 | ArrowmasterClass | Hjalte: US or EU? |
| 17:08.21 | chexsum_ | breaks purla bit more |
| 17:08.27 | Hjalte | ArrowmasterEU |
| 17:08.30 | Shane|Work | Hjalte: I'd ask what filesystem you're using but it ought to be NTFS and nothing in the downloader is large enough to hit a FS size limit anyhow |
| 17:08.36 | Hjalte | ArrowmasterClass: EU* even |
| 17:08.45 | ArrowmasterClass | Hjalte: i think Fisker- said something was wrong with the EU seed |
| 17:08.50 | Hjalte | Shane|Work: Yeah, it's NTFS |
| 17:09.29 | Hjalte | ArrowmasterClass: Oh, shame on Blizzard then. Fisker-, did they them blizzard screw with mah feed? |
| 17:09.30 | Megalon | Hjalte: closed downloader after it kinda stuck at 1.52gb for 30mins :o |
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| 17:09.45 | Hjalte | Megalon: Sounds like my problem. |
| 17:10.14 | Gu1AiR | my EU patch downloaded fine |
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| 17:10.24 | eraserhead | Pitbull: Thanx for the help guys got my UI all set up for raids/bgs etc. and hopefully tues. lol |
| 17:10.27 | Gu1AiR | i can upload it if you guys need |
| 17:10.37 | Shane|Work | If the seed is frakked then i'm guessing extracting a torrent and using a regular torrent client won't help? |
| 17:10.56 | Gu1AiR | try it |
| 17:10.56 | Shane|Work | might be worth a shot though |
| 17:10.58 | Fisker- | the blizzard seed is using the mac torrent to seed the windows patch |
| 17:11.06 | Fisker- | so it's sending incorrect data |
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| 17:11.19 | Fisker- | Seeded the correct data some hours ago |
| 17:11.35 | Fisker- | Should be possible to complete with P2P enabled |
| 17:11.49 | Hjalte | Fisker-: Haha, I see you're right. It says OSX the place I am downloading from. |
| 17:13.03 | Hjalte | I've got peer to peer disabled, because I don't want to take up too much bandwidth from the rest of the people where I live. |
| 17:13.21 | EthanCentaurai | if Patch 3.0 does go live next week I'm gonna quit WoW until WotLK and my iMac arrive... I cba to download a metric assload of patches when a DVD is on the horizon |
| 17:13.50 | Fisker- | Well the patch will probably be out by the time Blizzard figures out |
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| 17:14.44 | Hjalte | Sigh, I don't really feel like downloading 1.5 GB from somewhere else. |
| 17:15.05 | EthanCentaurai | I'm sure a patch is due, but I think it's more likely to be 2.4.4 which will include an NPC to get the Big Blizzard Bear mount from BlizzCon and content for WotLK |
| 17:15.19 | EthanCentaurai | just my 2c :) |
| 17:15.20 | Fisker- | It'll still keep your data :P |
| 17:15.44 | thul | Im in the most incompetent BG in the history of mankind |
| 17:15.54 | Fisker- | "Content for wotlk" IS the 3.0 patch |
| 17:15.59 | EthanCentaurai | thul: roll Horde :) |
| 17:16.01 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 17:16.01 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give qvr a big kiss on the neck |
| 17:16.06 | Dashkal | thul: if 75% of your raid isn't still in the AV cave, you lose that one :p |
| 17:16.36 | JensRex | s/AV cave/AFK cave |
| 17:17.06 | JensRex | See also: retard hill. |
| 17:17.49 | JensRex | Where the entire offensive team will stand, to let every horde rogue recap towers. |
| 17:18.25 | JensRex | Actually, they backstab me, then take towers. |
| 17:18.28 | KriLL3 | anyone else a bit confused about the "MMO Mouse"? there isn't much info on it and it looks as if the shell is stepped, wouldn't be comfy |
| 17:18.48 | KriLL3 | http://www.gamingstore.de/en/shop/index.php?warenkorb_id=30185&domain_id=1&als_liste=&tab_id=&detail=true&produkt_id=332&kategorie_id0=27 <-- if you haven't seen it yet |
| 17:19.25 | KriLL3 | and that hexagon on the side... is it a button? is it more than one button?.. |
| 17:19.43 | thul | EthanCentaurai: i don't want to relevel |
| 17:19.46 | Gu1AiR | steelseries is nihilum sponsor no? |
| 17:20.04 | KriLL3 | no idea |
| 17:20.41 | KriLL3 | thul: 1-70 is getting nerfed in 3.0/LK I think |
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| 17:21.23 | Gu1AiR | http://www.gamingstore.de/en/shop/index.php?warenkorb_id=30500&domain_id=1&als_liste=&tab_id=&detail=true&produkt_id=257&kategorie_id0=2 |
| 17:21.31 | Gu1AiR | thats what i use KriLL3 |
| 17:21.51 | Gu1AiR | i dont see the other mouse to be any better |
| 17:21.52 | KriLL3 | Gu1AiR: I'm on a MX1000 |
| 17:22.00 | KriLL3 | more buttons is nice |
| 17:22.07 | Gu1AiR | i got that steelseries free |
| 17:22.11 | Gu1AiR | so :) |
| 17:22.22 | KriLL3 | but I'm not quite sure how the buttons on that mmo one works |
| 17:22.33 | KriLL3 | or if it's comfy to hold and reach the buttons etc |
| 17:22.35 | SunTsu | .o0( If only my X-server could detect all my mouse buttons... ) |
| 17:22.40 | Primer | I use an mx1000 and have shift, control, and alt bound to the side keys |
| 17:22.46 | thul | KriLL3: much? |
| 17:22.47 | Primer | and use key combos for everything |
| 17:22.52 | KriLL3 | thul: ? |
| 17:22.58 | Primer | SunTsu: use evdev |
| 17:23.04 | Primer | and btnx |
| 17:23.07 | Primer | err |
| 17:23.09 | Primer | s/and/or/ |
| 17:23.11 | SunTsu | Primer: I could if I was using Linux ;) |
| 17:23.21 | KriLL3 | Primer: I got my druid forms on the side keys, questlog on mousewheel press, character/bags on the tilt and autorun on the page down button |
| 17:23.22 | Primer | heh |
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| 17:23.26 | KriLL3 | page up is bear |
| 17:23.32 | SunTsu | No evdev for FreeBSD, actually ;) |
| 17:23.48 | thul | kirmuch nerfed? |
| 17:23.51 | thul | KriLL3: much nerfed? :-P |
| 17:23.51 | Primer | btnx uses xinput, which is a kernel module |
| 17:23.58 | Primer | so it probably doesn't work on FreeBSD either |
| 17:24.06 | KriLL3 | thul: ? |
| 17:24.11 | Primer | userpsace -> event stack |
| 17:24.13 | fewyn | I just spent the last 2 hours organizing the guild bank >_> |
| 17:24.13 | KriLL3 | what's nerfed? |
| 17:24.30 | KriLL3 | fewyn: Mr.Plow! =P |
| 17:24.38 | Shane|Work | MrPlow works on gbank? |
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| 17:24.42 | fewyn | Yea that doesn't sort it how i want it to |
| 17:24.43 | KriLL3 | no idea |
| 17:24.44 | ArrowmasterClass | fewyn: and then somebody came and moved stuff randomly on you? |
| 17:24.54 | fewyn | Nope |
| 17:24.59 | fewyn | Because they feeeeear me |
| 17:25.10 | ArrowmasterClass | in my old guild the guy that ran the guildbank liked to keep stuff organized |
| 17:25.13 | Hjalte | Oh, one of the live blogs starts soon. |
| 17:25.19 | Shane|Work | both, actually |
| 17:25.56 | ArrowmasterClass | people used to mix it around on him but never when they could get caught |
| 17:25.56 | KriLL3 | fewyn: recoiling away from your breath isn't the same as recoiling in horror |
| 17:26.25 | fewyn | http://warcraft.fewyn.net/roster/index.php?p=guild-vault&a=g:2 |
| 17:26.27 | fewyn | ^ the bank |
| 17:27.49 | KriLL3 | is a certain old guy from Alaska the guild leader? |
| 17:27.56 | fewyn | nope |
| 17:28.47 | KriLL3 | :( |
| 17:29.21 | fewyn | the core of my guild hails from ohio but live in ohio, florida and georgia now |
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| 17:29.47 | Gu1AiR | whats with the elemental fire? |
| 17:30.03 | fewyn | I think that was majokko farming brd |
| 17:30.20 | fewyn | i forget exactly why |
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| 17:32.38 | ArrowmasterClass | fewyn: heh im from ohio |
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| 17:32.50 | fewyn | I used to live in Columbus |
| 17:33.08 | fewyn | well technically Grove City, but it's close enough |
| 17:33.42 | ArrowmasterClass | columbus is on my shitlist right now, my roadrunner gets routed through columbus and everynight at primetime my latency spikes to insane numbers until late at night |
| 17:34.39 | fewyn | yep |
| 17:34.43 | harl | oO |
| 17:34.47 | fewyn | which is why i like where i live now |
| 17:35.00 | fewyn | i live near a bunch of old people |
| 17:35.05 | fewyn | so i get a prime connection |
| 17:38.12 | Zeksie | If you have an XML template which has <Scripts> section, does each script get instanced the moment you create a frame derived from that tempate? or is 1 single copy of that function created and kept with the template to reference from? |
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| 17:39.09 | Zeksie | nm. i'll find out. sec :) |
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| 17:40.00 | ArrowmasterClass | Zeksie: not sure but i think in the past everything in xml script sections was wraped in two functions or something weird |
| 17:41.10 | Zeksie | yeh, testing it now. was just something that worried me for a moment |
| 17:42.21 | Zeksie | good. they use a reference to the template's one. phew :) |
| 17:43.50 | NeoTron | so Diablo 3 vs World of Warcraft UI |
| 17:43.55 | nevcairiel | yeah the code in the templates just gets a function header |
| 17:43.58 | NeoTron | I predict Diablo 3 will get a bigger audience :P |
| 17:44.21 | nevcairiel | I would take live D3 and transcript of UI later .P |
| 17:44.21 | KriLL3 | I'd like WoW to borrow some D3 UI visuals :> |
| 17:45.28 | NeoTron | Zeksie: btw in x-perl, when you open the config, it would be amazingly useful if ther was at least ghost outlines of all frames like there is for party/raid |
| 17:45.38 | fewyn | back in a few hours, i need to drive out to orlando. |
| 17:45.40 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: borrow d3 ui? http://images.gammatester.com/pics/4256f48716e49795e5352528d0767b5e.jpg like that? :D |
| 17:45.52 | NeoTron | it's kind of annoying to have to focus stuff, and worse have a pet out and make the pet attack something |
| 17:46.01 | KriLL3 | no not really |
| 17:46.04 | Zeksie | i did that for pet/pet target |
| 17:46.12 | Zeksie | other frames were not so desperate |
| 17:46.36 | NeoTron | when did you do that? |
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| 17:46.57 | Zeksie | week or two ago |
| 17:47.01 | NeoTron | another thing though - when you have targettarget and targettargettarget frames... and target yourself |
| 17:47.16 | NeoTron | it's close to impossible of knowing which of the two is which :P |
| 17:47.38 | KriLL3 | targettargettarget isn't needed imo |
| 17:47.56 | Zeksie | i'd agree KriLL3: but many ppl asked for it |
| 17:48.17 | KriLL3 | well provide it in your addons by all means, just meant I don't use it personally |
| 17:48.18 | Zeksie | yeah NeoTron... but serves you right for being one of those freaks that needs TTT :) |
| 17:48.19 | NeoTron | KriLL3: the frame exists, so it's irrelevant whether or not it's needed for you ;-) |
| 17:48.28 | KriLL3 | NeoTron: I don't use it |
| 17:48.34 | NeoTron | obviously |
| 17:48.48 | NeoTron | but it exists in x-perl and it's an issue as such |
| 17:48.59 | KriLL3 | I got player, target, targettarget (small thing with just name, tiny portrait and hp bar) and focus |
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| 17:49.06 | NeoTron | and don't get me started of targettargettargettarget frame! |
| 17:49.11 | KriLL3 | oh and small focustarget also |
| 17:49.28 | Zeksie | i like it when the 'issues' are small like this. cos i can largely ignore them :) |
| 17:49.36 | NeoTron | ~lart Zeksie |
| 17:49.36 | purl | beats the living hamstercrap out of Zeksie |
| 17:49.55 | NeoTron | speaking of issues, no clue why the rune display doesn't work but it doesn't :-/ |
| 17:50.18 | NeoTron | like I don't seem to see any cooldown indicators at all when I tested |
| 17:52.27 | Xinhuan | someone mentioned "arena1" is a valid unitID in arenas |
| 17:52.33 | Xinhuan | so you might look into it Zeksie :) |
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| 17:52.42 | Xinhuan | in patch 3.0 that is |
| 17:52.53 | NeoTron | arena1pet |
| 17:52.56 | NeoTron | arena1target |
| 17:52.57 | NeoTron | ftw |
| 17:53.02 | Xinhuan | (yes it refers to the enemy team) |
| 17:53.48 | NeoTron | X-Perl Arena Frames |
| 17:54.33 | Xinhuan | [10/11 01:51:41] <Syzgyn> Cladhaire: It looks like UnitClass("arena1") works regardless of visibility |
| 17:55.26 | NeoTron | so /cast [target=arena1] |
| 17:55.40 | NeoTron | not that it would be amazingly useful maybe but the possibility exists |
| 17:56.52 | Repo | 10closet-gnome: 03Rabbit * r565 / (2 files in 1 directory): Minor tweaks and fiddles. |
| 17:57.36 | Repo | 10closet-gnome_banker: 03Rabbit * r59 / (2 files in 1 directory): Update to work with latest CG. |
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| 17:58.51 | NeoTron | yay tweaks and fiddles! |
| 17:59.15 | NeoTron | vhaarr: I don't know if this is a closet gnome issue but it seems that on beta sets stop working between patches or something |
| 17:59.24 | NeoTron | maybe that's included in the fiddling |
| 17:59.36 | Repo | 10phat-loot: 03Stanzilla * r32 / (4 files in 2 directories): externals and wotlk fix (works on live) |
| 17:59.43 | vhaarr | NeoTron: hm might be between adding a new set and stuff, because the hooks break in 3.0 because of the self change |
| 18:00.43 | vhaarr | if so, I haven't fixed that yet |
| 18:00.51 | vhaarr | currently I'm moving it to Ace3 and finding all sorts of oddities |
| 18:01.06 | vhaarr | and testing the new UI |
| 18:01.55 | NeoTron | if I add a set, change gear, add a second set it works fine ti swap between them |
| 18:02.02 | vhaarr | ah okay |
| 18:02.04 | NeoTron | then at some unknown point every single piece stops working |
| 18:02.21 | NeoTron | it might be between patches but I can't say for sure because I don't swap sets often (just if I happen to go tank now and then) |
| 18:02.27 | vhaarr | right, well, I'll fix that asap when I see the bug obviously |
| 18:02.41 | NeoTron | how does it identify an item? |
| 18:02.44 | vhaarr | for now it sounds pretty arcane indeed |
| 18:02.49 | vhaarr | which item? |
| 18:02.59 | Gu1AiR | http://media2.wcradio.com:8000/listen.pls audio stream live from Blizzcon with opening ceremony |
| 18:03.01 | NeoTron | like how does it know what items are in the set? name, item id etc? |
| 18:03.09 | vhaarr | NeoTron: full item string link |
| 18:03.14 | NeoTron | ah |
| 18:03.22 | NeoTron | those include enchants and stuff? |
| 18:03.24 | vhaarr | NeoTron: anything else doesn't contain all the subtle differences like gems and enchants |
| 18:03.25 | vhaarr | yes |
| 18:03.42 | NeoTron | I wonder if blizzard, ebtween patches, change the format somehow |
| 18:04.11 | vhaarr | they did |
| 18:04.18 | NeoTron | if there's a feature I' like to see added, should I open a ticket? |
| 18:04.28 | vhaarr | look at line 863 (in the latest revision) of closetgnome.lua |
| 18:04.46 | vhaarr | NeoTron: provided I'll get a email notification, be my guest (I've never used the ticket system) |
| 18:04.53 | vhaarr | nev fixed that |
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| 18:05.00 | vhaarr | so they changed something |
| 18:05.55 | vhaarr | (no, that function doesn't pollute the global scope, it's predeclared at the top) |
| 18:06.59 | NeoTron | I was just wondering if it was possible to "recover" missing items in a set due to gem or enchant changes, by going by name (asking the user maybe) |
| 18:07.01 | nevcairiel | they changed the item string again? |
| 18:07.15 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: all I know is that item sets on occasion break in their entirety |
| 18:07.37 | nevcairiel | I created my sets after i fixed CG, and they still worked last patch |
| 18:07.38 | nevcairiel | never broke |
| 18:07.40 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
| 18:07.40 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: think between patches but due to low frequency of changing sets, I am not sure |
| 18:07.54 | NeoTron | I don't think I updated CG since joining beta |
| 18:08.09 | NeoTron | so it's very possible your fix would do the trick |
| 18:08.43 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: if you didnt get the fix, your sets would break when you level up |
| 18:08.52 | NeoTron | aha |
| 18:08.58 | NeoTron | that could in fact be the issue |
| 18:09.32 | NeoTron | makes sense - happens rarely and can't really tell when |
| 18:11.16 | vhaarr | when users upgrade to the new CG all sets will be wiped anyway, and most people will do that at the 3.0 release |
| 18:11.31 | nevcairiel | huh |
| 18:11.40 | nevcairiel | unless you changed something, it wont lose the sets |
| 18:11.45 | nevcairiel | i added an upgrade path |
| 18:11.49 | vhaarr | from acedb-2.0 to 3.0? |
| 18:11.52 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 18:11.54 | nevcairiel | right |
| 18:12.01 | nevcairiel | you can nuke my upgrade path for set format then =P |
| 18:12.07 | vhaarr | after 3.0 ye |
| 18:12.24 | Zyndrome | fgds |
| 18:12.35 | Zyndrome | our last serious Illidan kill until WotLK .. and what do we get |
| 18:12.38 | Zyndrome | SKULL of course |
| 18:12.43 | Zyndrome | starts getting mad |
| 18:13.16 | NeoTron | of course |
| 18:13.26 | NeoTron | I did my possibly last ZA run last night |
| 18:13.36 | NeoTron | and I get the ring I've been trying to get for a long fricking time |
| 18:13.52 | Zyndrome | and our GM remains with only one boob |
| 18:14.00 | NeoTron | the ring I have only once seen before... but when I was on my hunter not my warlock |
| 18:14.11 | NeoTron | we had two rogues with mainhands, no offhands |
| 18:14.18 | NeoTron | after 9 months |
| 18:14.32 | vhaarr | can't beat nihilum anyway NeoTron :p |
| 18:14.34 | Zyndrome | we've never had a single mainhand drop |
| 18:14.36 | NeoTron | and now when you say it, we got a skull on our last illidan kill |
| 18:14.45 | NeoTron | went to a boomkin |
| 18:16.39 | TNSe | okay |
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| 18:16.55 | TNSe | tell me that priests and paladins are NOT going to be using adamantite sharpening stones on their weapons |
| 18:17.02 | TNSe | please someone tell me that |
| 18:17.05 | Repo | 10closet-gnome_banker: 03Rabbit * r60 Banker.lua: Added a helpful note. |
| 18:17.36 | TNSe | phew |
| 18:17.41 | vhaarr | NeoTron: anyway if you haven't tried the new CG, I'd appreciate some feedback on the UI. I'm not sure if I'm pleased with it myself at the moment |
| 18:17.41 | TNSe | it specifies melee crit rating |
| 18:17.55 | NeoTron | vhaarr: I'll check it out |
| 18:17.59 | vhaarr | coolio |
| 18:18.01 | NeoTron | does it upgrade old sets correctly? |
| 18:18.07 | vhaarr | it wipes them completely |
| 18:18.11 | NeoTron | ok |
| 18:18.17 | NeoTron | not that I really care at this point :P |
| 18:18.20 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 18:18.21 | vhaarr | :p |
| 18:18.22 | NeoTron | never going to use my old raid sets |
| 18:18.28 | ulic | vhaarr: where is the new one? Just alpha builds of the normal one? |
| 18:18.31 | vhaarr | yes |
| 18:18.33 | Shane|Work | vhaarr: I hope I can finally give up Outfitter for CG |
| 18:18.51 | NeoTron | CG was such a relief to use after ItemCrap |
| 18:18.53 | vhaarr | Shane|Work: if something kept you from CG before, that won't change now |
| 18:18.54 | ulic | vhaarr: only works on beta or live also? |
| 18:19.00 | vhaarr | ulic: should work on both |
| 18:19.23 | vhaarr | unless that something was "because it uses Ace2" |
| 18:19.24 | Shane|Work | vhaarr: I never gave it an honest chance because i was too familiar with OF and wanted to level rather than mess with my UI much |
| 18:19.31 | vhaarr | right, okay then |
| 18:19.42 | ArrowmasterClass | teacher told us to start up windows xp in vmware and open a command prompt because we were going to ping something, so he starts walking around to see if anybodys have issues getting into xp in vmware and ive got a cmd prompt open running ping -t |
| 18:19.48 | vhaarr | well the current UI isn't final so don't judge it until it is :p |
| 18:19.53 | ArrowmasterClass | he just said 'show off' and walked away |
| 18:20.28 | Shane|Work | vhaarr: my current wishlist is just LDB, event-driven sets, and bank-deposits |
| 18:20.39 | ulic | the only feature that I really miss (and I wrote a hack module to do it, but not polished), was to create stats based off stats, like make a set of all my best FR gear. |
| 18:20.45 | vhaarr | event-driven sets will come when I convert Switcher |
| 18:20.53 | vhaarr | ulic: I'd like that as well |
| 18:21.04 | vhaarr | banker does bank-deposits and retrieves |
| 18:21.09 | vhaarr | which I already converted |
| 18:21.15 | Shane|Work | hotness |
| 18:21.48 | NeoTron | CG is really straight forward |
| 18:21.48 | ulic | I think the only part that I couldn't really make work with my module was toggling the slots on and off if it added an item to a slot. |
| 18:21.55 | vhaarr | NeoTron: for the record, I'd rather have the 3 checkboxes someone suggested in the ButtonBin thread for controlling icons than per-object config |
| 18:21.56 | NeoTron | only thing that has bugged me is changing gems and enchants :P |
| 18:22.01 | ulic | but it's been a while since I looked at it. |
| 18:22.17 | NeoTron | vhaarr: I will check the thread.. |
| 18:22.51 | NeoTron | email subscriptions broke with the forum change |
| 18:23.01 | Shane|Work | still broke as far as i can tell |
| 18:23.07 | Shane|Work | i've made new subs and gotten nothing |
| 18:23.12 | vhaarr | NeoTron: if you have that item equipped when you change it, and then Shift-Click the set in the tablet to "update" it, the only thing that will happen is that the slot will turn yellow |
| 18:23.15 | Shane|Work | to both forum threads and addon updates |
| 18:23.28 | vhaarr | NeoTron: you click the slot (with the changed item in it) to turn it green, and then click "Update" |
| 18:24.11 | vhaarr | anyway back in 30 |
| 18:24.51 | ArrowmasterClass | ROFL |
| 18:25.17 | ArrowmasterClass | he went and turned off a set of lights in the room, and two computers turned off |
| 18:25.27 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:25.34 | ArrowmasterClass | turned it back on and they came on |
| 18:25.43 | ArrowmasterClass | turned off again and they stayed on |
| 18:25.47 | NeoTron | ArrowmasterClass: magic |
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| 18:32.08 | Thaoky | hello |
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| 18:44.00 | Cheads | uhm anyone know of an addon lie ManuFac Snoop that's maintained? An addon where you can see all skills(and recipes) from all professions? |
| 18:44.55 | Shane|Work | ARL? |
| 18:45.04 | Shane|Work | (AckisRecipeList) |
| 18:46.06 | Gu1AiR | http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/ |
| 18:51.30 | Cheads | is'n that only for your current professions? |
| 18:52.18 | Gu1AiR | Cheads: www.wowhead.com |
| 18:52.50 | Cheads | ... |
| 18:53.26 | Gu1AiR | there is no such addon for everything that people wish |
| 18:53.51 | Shane|Work | vhaarr: ClosetGnome bugs out on Live when ctrl-click to set icon, let me make sure it's just CG and not a plugin |
| 18:54.00 | Cheads | there's ManuFac Snoop ... but that will be obsolete soon |
| 18:54.12 | Hjalte | Cheads: Try TradeSkillInfo, I think that's the name of the addon I used once. It's great, if I remember right. |
| 18:54.25 | vhaarr | Shane|Work: ah, I see it |
| 18:54.40 | Hjalte | Cheads: You'll probably want to get the UI as well. |
| 18:54.52 | Hjalte | Cheads: Not sure if it's maintained still. |
| 18:54.57 | Shane|Work | vhaar, yeah ItemNameFromSlot nil error |
| 18:55.27 | Repo | 10closet-gnome: 03Rabbit * r566 ClosetGnome.lua: Bugfix. |
| 18:55.30 | vhaarr | Shane|Work: fixed |
| 18:55.40 | Shane|Work | i'll test it now, thx |
| 18:55.54 | Cheads | Hjalte doesn't look like it's maintained either... oh well.. might be something one day again =) |
| 18:56.33 | Shane|Work | I still urge you to give the wotlk branch of ARL a try, it's come a long way and has a great GUI |
| 18:58.31 | Cheads | hmm seems like Atlasloot enhancend has an awful lot of crafting ... |
| 18:58.36 | Repo | 10closet-gnome: 03Rabbit * r567 ClosetGnome.lua: |
| 18:58.37 | Repo | Don't check the ammo slot in :IsSetFullyEquipped, IsEquippedItem doesn't recognize it. |
| 18:58.37 | Cheads | Shane|Work I do use ARL already =) |
| 18:58.48 | Shane|Work | the wrath branch? |
| 18:59.07 | Cheads | not on live |
| 18:59.19 | Shane|Work | vhaarr: yup, that did it |
| 19:01.10 | Cheads | Shane|Work on live I use 0.9732 .. that's the latest from http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/ |
| 19:04.08 | Shane|Work | WowAce feature request: a sub-page of My Wowace that gives me all my commit-access repo urls |
| 19:05.25 | Stanzilla | 90% of all repos? |
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| 19:06.42 | Shane|Work | Stanzilla: no the ones I'm a owner/member of |
| 19:06.53 | NeoTron | Shane|Work: open a ticket.. somewhere |
| 19:07.06 | NeoTron | not sure waht project is correct for such tickets thoguh |
| 19:07.24 | Shane|Work | or even what tracker, really |
| 19:07.30 | Shane|Work | curseforge tracker maybe? |
| 19:09.15 | Chompers | this blizzcon stream isnt what i expected |
| 19:09.40 | Chompers | i was hoping for the wow class panels, not the arena stuff |
| 19:09.52 | Fisker- | duh |
| 19:09.57 | Fisker- | TAKE IT UP THE ASS Chompers |
| 19:10.00 | Fisker- | like all other EU |
| 19:10.30 | Fisker- | Must make moneys >:3 |
| 19:11.48 | Chompers | yeah |
| 19:11.55 | Chompers | 40 dollars for a stream |
| 19:12.05 | Chompers | yeah, i'm going to pay that |
| 19:12.15 | Fisker- | You can't even pay for that if you're outside US |
| 19:13.04 | Fisker- | but that's how it is |
| 19:13.19 | Chompers | $40 is what in real money? |
| 19:13.25 | Fisker- | WWI was going to be pay-per-view, then US whined and bam the day after it was fixed >:3 |
| 19:13.32 | Fisker- | (You get a fail mount though) |
| 19:13.40 | Shane|Work | last i heard USD was half the euro-monies |
| 19:13.51 | Fisker- | But with Blizzcon, the rest of the world whined for unlimited amount of days |
| 19:13.53 | Shane|Work | erm, 2 USD = ~1 euro |
| 19:14.08 | Fisker- | Then a couple of days prior to Blizzcon: "Lolpwnt you get tournament streams, gtfo" |
| 19:15.27 | Matrix110| | Well we can hope for the usual "stuff" to happen and even get HD Blizzcon cap :D |
| 19:15.44 | Fisker- | probably gonna be pirated |
| 19:15.47 | Fisker- | pirating = winning |
| 19:16.42 | Cheads | 1 euro = 1.36 usd |
| 19:16.59 | FtH|Daemona | it would be so much better if some DirecTV user would just stream it on mogulus or something ... |
| 19:17.15 | FtH|Daemona | can you imagine that 5 digit viewer number |
| 19:17.25 | FtH|Daemona | and smoke coming out of the mogulus servers? ;) |
| 19:17.36 | nevcairiel | they should've offerd internet streams |
| 19:17.40 | nevcairiel | i even wouldve payed for it |
| 19:17.52 | FtH|Daemona | definitly |
| 19:18.06 | Fisker- | Well with a free mount |
| 19:18.11 | Fisker- | You gotta be like idiot to not get it |
| 19:18.12 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 19:18.25 | nevcairiel | could've run it through some of blizzards servers, they should have some free capacitys =P |
| 19:18.32 | Matrix110| | no |
| 19:18.41 | Matrix110| | they already p2p patches.... |
| 19:18.46 | Matrix110| | and abuse users |
| 19:20.37 | Fisker- | I'm disappointed they didn't decide to show Savior vs. Cloud on the tourney stream |
| 19:24.19 | Repo | 10yata: 03Tornhoof 07wotlk * r38 / (4 files in 1 directory): - More Options, Keybindings |
| 19:24.20 | Repo | - Mostly drycoded - ptr sux |
| 19:26.54 | Fisker- | Man |
| 19:27.22 | Fisker- | The time they used introducing us to the tournaments and random commercials/trailers/whatever they could've started and completed the Starcraft tournament >:3 |
| 19:28.09 | Gu1AiR | matches don't start until 20mins |
| 19:28.17 | Gu1AiR | its all commercials |
| 19:28.26 | Matrix110| | stream url? |
| 19:28.41 | Gu1AiR | http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon/video/stream-wow.xml |
| 19:28.44 | Gu1AiR | http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon/video/stream-rts.xml |
| 19:28.46 | Matrix110| | thanks |
| 19:28.54 | Gu1AiR | its a little screen |
| 19:29.02 | Gu1AiR | kinda gay |
| 19:29.10 | Fisker- | bah |
| 19:29.12 | Matrix110| | atleast it works |
| 19:29.14 | Matrix110| | WWI was a mess |
| 19:30.03 | Fisker- | Would've been a greater mess if there were any actual panel streams |
| 19:30.06 | Fisker- | that's for sure |
| 19:30.17 | Fisker- | this is only not a mess because almost noone gives a crap about tournaments |
| 19:30.27 | Fisker- | Not to mention the Diablo 3 teaser back then |
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| 19:33.44 | Fisker- | Consider if Black War Kodo bug still existed when they made the WotLK trailer |
| 19:33.51 | Fisker- | "I watched with pride as you grew into a weapon of BLACK WAR KODO" |
| 19:34.11 | Gu1AiR | dual spec..no no no stop |
| 19:34.16 | Gu1AiR | that was awesome |
| 19:34.33 | Shane|Work | Gu1AiR: more details plx no streaming here |
| 19:34.45 | Gu1AiR | http://media2.wcradio.com:8000/listen.pls |
| 19:35.02 | Gu1AiR | basically this guy asked about having a confirmation panel for respecs |
| 19:35.05 | Shane|Work | that still isn't working for me |
| 19:35.23 | Gu1AiR | blizzard guy started talking about dual spec and he was stoped by another woman |
| 19:35.38 | Gu1AiR | Dont know if its been announced but we are " [interruped] "no no NO" |
| 19:35.45 | Gu1AiR | something like that |
| 19:35.56 | NeoTron | ahaha |
| 19:35.57 | NeoTron | pwned |
| 19:36.29 | Gu1AiR | Shane|Work: try this http://media2.wcradio.com:8004/listen.pls |
| 19:37.00 | Shane|Work | no dice, i've tried both every few minutes since 3pm EST |
| 19:37.19 | Shane|Work | were working previously, but i think the latency on our work leased lines is too much for little ol' VLC |
| 19:38.16 | Matrix110| | wcradio stream wants user/pass Oo |
| 19:38.34 | Gu1AiR | i had that problem |
| 19:38.49 | Gu1AiR | try itunes |
| 19:39.07 | Matrix110| | I wont install Itunes |
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| 19:40.25 | Gu1AiR | works for me on vlc |
| 19:40.54 | Xinhuan | if you have winamp, or an old version of WMP, you can also use the link |
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| 19:41.08 | Xinhuan | WMP10 requires hacking to make it play .pls |
| 19:41.20 | Gu1AiR | who is kevin kelly? |
| 19:41.32 | Matrix110| | now its working but its around 3times to fast |
| 19:41.33 | Matrix110| | Oo |
| 19:45.18 | Gu1AiR | http://screlay-dtc0l-3.shoutcast.com:8024/ |
| 19:45.21 | Gu1AiR | how about that? |
| 19:47.42 | Matrix110| | ah that works |
| 19:47.46 | Matrix110| | thanks |
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| 19:49.14 | Gu1AiR | Q: Will we be getting more action bars with all of our new spells? |
| 19:49.14 | Gu1AiR | A: This may come in the future. They're looking at it, but "if we're adding that many action bars, something is wrong." Number of action bars feels right. If it needs to be increased, there are problems elsewhere, not the UI. |
| 19:49.28 | Gu1AiR | :\ |
| 19:56.08 | Shane|Work | I can't commit to my git repo :-( i'm getting pubkey errors even tho it's the same frakking one i used yesterday |
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| 19:58.08 | Trela | Did you restart since then? |
| 19:58.37 | Shane|Work | different machine, same pubkey |
| 19:59.06 | Shane|Work | I even just re-copied/pasted my key to the website to change my auth stuff |
| 19:59.23 | FtH|Daemona | did the ui designers just thank the mod community for offering steady input and ideas? ;) |
| 19:59.42 | Gu1AiR | they did kinda |
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| 20:00.09 | Kolie | http://static.curseforge.net/client/CurseSetup-2.0.0.14.exe |
| 20:00.13 | Kolie | oops wrong window |
| 20:00.17 | Kolie | New test build though :) |
| 20:00.18 | Trela | :O |
| 20:00.30 | Fisker- | slaps Kolie around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:00.37 | Trela | downloads to hack it more. |
| 20:00.53 | Gu1AiR | eyes kolie |
| 20:01.04 | Kolie | flashes Gu1AiR. |
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| 20:01.24 | Gu1AiR | changelog :) |
| 20:01.27 | Cheads | Kolie newer than the one from yesterday? |
| 20:01.36 | Kolie | I just built this one 2 minutes ago. |
| 20:01.45 | Kolie | Euro tards get ISO dates. |
| 20:02.11 | Trela | Kolie: You are the programmer for the Client? |
| 20:02.15 | Chompers | 'two bar based mods' |
| 20:02.18 | Kolie | Kind of. |
| 20:02.19 | Chompers | more like one, hurrr |
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| 20:02.46 | theduke | hey guys, small problem |
| 20:02.57 | Gu1AiR | i have big problems |
| 20:03.01 | Gu1AiR | want to trade? |
| 20:03.16 | Kolie | why Trela? |
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| 20:04.01 | NeoTron | sssh. Trela is busy programming the ICBM to your current location Kolie |
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| 20:04.23 | Kolie | yay! |
| 20:04.43 | theduke | I'm using AceConfig 3 for adding my addon options to the blizz addon options dialogue ( LibStub("AceConfigDialog-3.0"):AddToBlizOptions ) and it shows up just fine, but neither the (properly defined in the options table) get or set functions get called |
| 20:04.43 | theduke | anything I could be forgetting?^^ |
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| 20:05.04 | nevcairiel | theduke: pastey your code on http://ace.pastey.net/ |
| 20:05.39 | Shane|Work | anyone? help me with my pubkey? |
| 20:06.02 | Kolie | Sure send me your priv key and pub key pair and ill help you. |
| 20:06.29 | NeoTron | lol |
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| 20:06.44 | Shane|Work | about that... |
| 20:06.49 | NeoTron | dirty phisher |
| 20:07.16 | nevcairiel | Shane|Work: which repository? |
| 20:07.40 | Shane|Work | nevcairiel: git@git.wowace.com:wow/fidel/mainline.git and git@git.wowace.com:wow/caesar/mainline.git , for sure |
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| 20:08.00 | nevcairiel | can you checkout? |
| 20:08.16 | nevcairiel | or clone/pull for that matter =P |
| 20:08.27 | Shane|Work | from the devel url or public? |
| 20:08.44 | Shane|Work | fidel is an empty repo, caesar should have some code |
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| 20:09.18 | nevcairiel | try cloning from the dev url |
| 20:09.26 | Shane|Work | clone is denied as well |
| 20:09.33 | Shane|Work | for Caesar |
| 20:09.51 | nevcairiel | try again |
| 20:09.55 | nevcairiel | er |
| 20:09.56 | nevcairiel | wait |
| 20:10.04 | theduke | so... |
| 20:10.05 | theduke | http://ace.pastey.net/97985 |
| 20:10.24 | nevcairiel | ok now |
| 20:10.41 | Shane|Work | no such luck |
| 20:10.54 | nevcairiel | Shane|Work: talk to ckknight |
| 20:11.10 | nevcairiel | theduke: you need to define your set/get functions _before_ using them in your table |
| 20:11.19 | Shane|Work | if the http://www.wowace.com/home/repository-authorization/ link is known to work i'll try a new pubkey |
| 20:12.28 | theduke | ahh... right |
| 20:12.28 | theduke | thanks nev |
| 20:12.56 | Shane|Work | ckknight: ping |
| 20:13.05 | ckknight | hey Shane|Work |
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| 20:14.06 | Shane|Work | ckknight: i'm getting pubkey errors with any/all of my devel URLs for my addons, 3-4 different ones |
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| 20:14.18 | Trela | Kolie: Will the newer versions of the Curse Client plug the session ID security hole? |
| 20:14.18 | ckknight | what's your curse username? |
| 20:14.25 | Shane|Work | I just now tried a new pubkey and that also didn't help (after changing it at http://www.wowace.com/home/repository-authorization/) |
| 20:14.29 | Shane|Work | ckknight: ssveller |
| 20:17.21 | ckknight | okay, Shane|Work |
| 20:17.44 | Shane|Work | just started working now, either cause of you or cause of me reverting to an old pubkey and resetting it at that link (again) |
| 20:18.01 | Repo | 10fidel: 03ssveller 07master * 6ab71eb / (2 files in 1 directory): [new] |
| 20:18.05 | Shane|Work | whee |
| 20:19.04 | Kolie | Session ID Security hole? |
| 20:19.20 | Kolie | Thats a new security hole to me. |
| 20:19.33 | Repo | 10benito: 03ssveller 07master * 78062c5 / (2 files in 1 directory): [new] |
| 20:19.33 | Trela | The part where it uses the same session ID for every one on each log in. |
| 20:19.38 | NeoTron | Kolie: the session ID keeps falling out of the hole and landing on the windows start bar all the time. it gets messy |
| 20:19.43 | Trela | XD |
| 20:19.59 | Kolie | Trela: It doesnt use the same session id for everyone |
| 20:20.01 | Trela | It allows access from outside the client with no log in. |
| 20:20.24 | Kolie | You logged in, with the client. |
| 20:20.59 | Trela | Then grabbed the session ID it displayed and used that to manually query the server through Firefox hours later. |
| 20:21.03 | Repo | 10caesar: 03ssveller 07master * 18999c4 /: [forced -1 +0] Size and placement tweaks |
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| 20:21.20 | Kolie | Why is this a security hole? |
| 20:22.03 | Trela | Some one could program a client that would not have to log in and bypass the need for paying for premium. |
| 20:22.19 | Kolie | You have to log in from the curse client. |
| 20:22.42 | Kolie | Otherwise you cant get the session id to begin with. |
| 20:22.47 | Trela | At least once and then that is it. |
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| 20:23.07 | Kolie | That's not the client anywyas. |
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| 20:24.17 | Trela | looks for the pastey. |
| 20:24.26 | Kolie | I'm told they expire every hour. |
| 20:24.34 | Kolie | I can neither confirm nor deny that. |
| 20:24.44 | Trela | http://ace.pastey.net/97958 |
| 20:24.46 | Trela | They do not. |
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| 20:29.35 | Shane|Work | looking for some feedback for current and planned features for one of my dictator mods |
| 20:30.00 | Trela | Add the ability to take over China. |
| 20:30.25 | Shane|Work | it is intended as an addon control panel that needs little to no user intervention in most cases. it current works off of a group-based whitelist, and all addons not explicitly enabled are disabled the next time you relog or reloadui |
| 20:31.00 | Shane|Work | that's not super handy unless you frequently experiment with new addons and don't want them polluting your UI during "srs bsns" time |
| 20:31.28 | Shane|Work | but the main selling-point features I want to add are role-based addon selection and event-driven enable/disable |
| 20:31.41 | NeoTron | Shane|Work: i often wish addons I tested once and discarded, but didn't uninstall, wouldn't automatically load on all my other characters |
| 20:31.49 | Shane|Work | 1. x toon is an ah mule and so only needs "inventory" and "ah" mod groups |
| 20:32.21 | Shane|Work | 1.2 y toon is your raiding main and needs the "raid" and "threat meter" and "damage meter" groups enabled in addition to the normal set |
| 20:32.43 | Shane|Work | so you have roles like "leveling", "tradeskill", "mule", "raider", etc. |
| 20:32.54 | NeoTron | sounds sane |
| 20:33.05 | Shane|Work | and you set the current toon's role with a simple slash command and in the future that selection of addons would be automatically applied |
| 20:33.06 | NeoTron | do you manually categorize addons? |
| 20:33.16 | Shane|Work | currently it's done in the lua |
| 20:33.23 | Shane|Work | so specific to my addon collection |
| 20:33.29 | NeoTron | ok that's a bit limiting :P |
| 20:33.30 | Pneumatus | anyone know where the "Conqueror" title is from? |
| 20:33.37 | Shane|Work | i'm debating whether to leave it as such or begin building a GUI config |
| 20:33.47 | Shane|Work | where each tab represents a role and you check off addons that apply in that role |
| 20:34.05 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r703 AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIWidget-MultiLineEditBox.lua: AceGUI-3.0 MultiLineEditBox Widget: |
| 20:34.06 | Repo | - Properly disable the widget in SetDisabled |
| 20:34.06 | Repo | - Adjust style to be conform to the other widgets |
| 20:34.44 | Shane|Work | the second point would be to optionally leave, say, "raid" addons disabled unless you are presently in a raidgroup, then prompt you to /rl to load them once you join one |
| 20:34.51 | nevcairiel | ckknight: changing a ticket to "Fixed" doesnt show up in the activity log |
| 20:35.00 | Shane|Work | and leave bank and ah-centric mods disabled unless you are resting |
| 20:35.01 | Shane|Work | etc. |
| 20:35.12 | Shane|Work | someone similar to the way addonloader works |
| 20:35.15 | ckknight | nevcairiel: got an example of where this occurred? |
| 20:35.17 | nevcairiel | ckknight: nor does "Declined" |
| 20:35.25 | nevcairiel | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ace3/tickets/3-multiline-input-dosnt-disable/ |
| 20:35.29 | nevcairiel | and ticket 4 for declined |
| 20:35.45 | nevcairiel | oh, i also set it to Accepted before |
| 20:35.46 | Shane|Work | NeoTron: I'm perfectly willing to do a GUI config, probably as an LOD module if that sounds like something that appeals to you |
| 20:35.48 | nevcairiel | which doesnt show up |
| 20:36.19 | Shane|Work | NeoTron: i need the learning experience anyhow. i just need to figure out how to do scrolling frames, tabs, and lists of checkbox toggles, basically. |
| 20:37.23 | ckknight | nevcairiel: that is odd |
| 20:37.34 | Shane|Work | i mostly need help with dynamically setting up options with AceConfig |
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| 20:43.00 | Chompers | oh my |
| 20:43.07 | Chompers | ghostcrawler is a guy |
| 20:43.43 | Shane|Work | fo rizzle? |
| 20:44.19 | sacarasc | chompers is heartbroken now |
| 20:44.48 | Chompers | im laughing at all the forum people that were hitting on him |
| 20:46.40 | Gu1AiR | wow |
| 20:46.45 | backbone87 | nevcairiel: the ticket overview "all" isnt showing up all tickets, too, or is this intended? |
| 20:46.45 | Gu1AiR | what a storm |
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| 20:55.30 | [SW]Dodge | some one knows where i can find the video with deathknights in diffrent races? |
| 20:56.56 | selckin | KJ down \o/ |
| 20:57.46 | Stanzilla | gz |
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| 21:01.00 | ckknight | nevcairiel: fixed |
| 21:01.09 | nevcairiel | cool |
| 21:01.23 | ckknight | caching without proper invalidation |
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| 21:03.07 | backbone87 | nevcairiel: regarding ticket4 for ace3: when using metatables for the args parameter, you still dont know "where" you are in the options, because of the missing info-table. this is still a problem in a dynamic tree |
| 21:03.29 | Repo | 10adolf: 03ssveller 07gui-config * 8dff30a / (48 files in 14 directories): [new] |
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| 21:05.46 | Daemoen | hey guys, anyone in here happen to be running any linux distro with nvidia and sli? having all sorts of issues getting nvidia to function at all, just wonderring how much trouble others are having recently |
| 21:07.12 | nevcairiel | backbone87: oh well, thats still not really planned to be integrated, would mean too big overhaul of all libs that read the options table, changing the spec etc |
| 21:08.18 | backbone87 | hmm |
| 21:18.44 | Stanzilla | adolf is like not a cool name for an addon :P |
| 21:20.20 | winkiller | yeah agreed |
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| 21:28.12 | Chompers | 'dont nerf me bro' |
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| 21:32.33 | ckknight | Belazor: ping |
| 21:35.58 | fewyn | ckknight: pong, i'll poke his ass on msn for you if need be |
| 21:36.07 | ckknight | nah |
| 21:36.25 | fewyn | it's probably getting late for him tho |
| 21:36.29 | fewyn | he does live in norway |
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| 21:39.47 | Tinyboom | only 23.39 here in norway :) |
| 21:40.31 | Bruners_ | for some that is late |
| 21:40.45 | [SW]Dodge | Bruners_: not :P |
| 21:41.06 | Tinyboom | I still choose to call that early on a friday evening :) |
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| 21:51.23 | Belazor | ckknight: pong |
| 21:51.38 | ckknight | I merged the Cryolysis2 projects between curseforge and wowace |
| 21:51.41 | ckknight | btw. |
| 21:52.04 | Belazor | cool cheers, the old one on curse was probs quite out of date ;p |
| 21:52.20 | ckknight | meh |
| 21:56.05 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03Cinedelle * r110 localizations/localization-frFR.lua: frFR update |
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| 22:11.20 | Sunwind | monday - able to update to alpha/beta addons on the CC? |
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| 22:23.40 | thul | i just hate a few game mechanics. |
| 22:25.33 | Daemoen | ok, anyone happen to know of a way of getting the WoW installer.exe..... i have my WoW cds... but one problem... |
| 22:25.37 | Daemoen | mac versions, lol! |
| 22:28.07 | NeoTron | so there's no "mac" vs "windows" version on install CD's |
| 22:28.14 | NeoTron | they are both on the same CD |
| 22:28.23 | Daemoen | ummm, then why the heck cant i find an installer.exe on the darned cd? |
| 22:28.56 | Daemoen | i was sure that it was mac and windows too until i went to look for the exe so i could run it through wine |
| 22:29.53 | NeoTron | hidden somehow? I have never heard of a "mac only" install |
| 22:31.47 | Gu1AiR | download it from wow site |
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| 22:34.30 | Daemoen | yeah, i found it |
| 22:34.46 | Daemoen | theres some way of making it so that the system mounts it with things hidden and even doing an ls -lah doesnt show it |
| 22:35.01 | Daemoen | you have to remount it using a flag passed to mount called nohide :-D |
| 22:37.19 | Daemoen | anyone happen to be running sli under linux for wow? if so, have you found it performs better or worse with sli enabled? |
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| 22:46.17 | molgar | Is there a internet site where i can find all the diferent templates and a picture of how they look? |
| 22:46.42 | Bruners_ | curseclient is not that bad after all |
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| 22:52.56 | molgar | k, ty |
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| 23:18.49 | KriLL3 | is there a way to fix the water edge issue or is it unavoidable? |
| 23:19.03 | fewyn | water edge issue? |
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| 23:19.54 | KriLL3 | fly high over water that ends in a shallow beach and it flickers around the edges really quickly |
| 23:20.12 | Stanzilla | uh that is nasty |
| 23:21.03 | waallen | Is anyone using Hitsmode? I've been trying to display events affiliated to others/people not in party-raid but I haven't succeeded in doing so- |
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| 23:25.30 | pentium166 | i don't think there's a way to fix that, KriLL3 |
| 23:25.54 | KriLL3 | pentium166: figured, I'm guessing it's a problem with Nvidia or sumsutch, clipping issue |
| 23:27.33 | Gnarfoz | who says it doesn't happen on ATI cards? |
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| 23:31.19 | Gu1AiR | http://www.aioforum.com/windows_vista_stuff/53006-windows_vista_eternity.html |
| 23:32.57 | Stanzilla | Gu1AiR: crap and illegal |
| 23:33.10 | Stanzilla | I don't want to know what keylogger etc is hidden in there |
| 23:33.57 | fewyn | probably a few |
| 23:34.12 | fewyn | i'll stick with my actually legal copy of windows xp |
| 23:35.12 | Gu1AiR | why does something has to contain keyloggers? |
| 23:35.17 | Gu1AiR | dont be so obsessed |
| 23:35.44 | falconindy | no such thing as a free lunch. people have a right to be concerned these days |
| 23:36.04 | falconindy | its not obsession when you're just trying to protect your best interests |
| 23:36.35 | falconindy | also, its vista. enough of a reason to stay clear. |
| 23:37.08 | Gu1AiR | oh not again |
| 23:37.10 | Gu1AiR | vista is fine |
| 23:37.57 | falconindy | that's your opinion. many people would agree with the sentiment that vista is a downgrade from XP and offers no redeeming new features |
| 23:38.19 | falconindy | the new file system that was supposed to go in with vista? never made it |
| 23:38.29 | falconindy | the new security system that was planned as well? scrapped |
| 23:38.44 | falconindy | the registry is still prone to rootkits |
| 23:38.47 | Gu1AiR | so what are you running? |
| 23:38.51 | fewyn | the security system that came with it? so annoying i'm going to assume 90% of the people are told to turn it off |
| 23:39.24 | falconindy | im running XP until i can drop the remaining windows app from my regimen and move to Ubuntu |
| 23:39.44 | Gu1AiR | linux is not viable |
| 23:39.52 | Gu1AiR | i cannot play games |
| 23:40.01 | Stanzilla | you fail then |
| 23:40.10 | falconindy | Hi, meet WINE |
| 23:40.15 | fewyn | i can play wow in wine |
| 23:40.17 | nevcairiel | WoW on linux is pure fail |
| 23:40.18 | fewyn | it's easy |
| 23:40.22 | nevcairiel | OpenGL in WoW sucks ass |
| 23:40.25 | Gu1AiR | no its the g33ks who think linux is superior to windows are failing |
| 23:40.31 | fewyn | now ventrilo on wine |
| 23:40.34 | fewyn | that's not fun |
| 23:40.40 | Gu1AiR | linux is fine for servers and desktop |
| 23:40.42 | Gu1AiR | but thats it |
| 23:40.53 | falconindy | you're obviously out of your league Gu1AIR |
| 23:40.58 | fewyn | and you play games on a desktop *gasp* |
| 23:41.25 | Gu1AiR | yes falcon i have a job that makes out of your league |
| 23:41.35 | backbone87 | nevcairiel: need feedback... you have a query |
| 23:41.58 | falconindy | Of course you do. The way you speak about OS's makes your ignorance pretty obvious. |
| 23:42.04 | Gu1AiR | you are a just a linux fanboi who thinks wow i can run linux i'm cool |
| 23:42.18 | falconindy | Thanks for proving my point |
| 23:42.35 | Gu1AiR | your point is being an idiot |
| 23:42.56 | fewyn | Now you're just proving his point even more I think, with your oh so witty come backs. |
| 23:43.05 | SunTsu | .o0( Says the gui who needs ad hominem attacks ) |
| 23:43.13 | SunTsu | s/gui/guy/ |
| 23:45.02 | nevcairiel | backbone87: i don't get querys unless initiated by me :) |
| 23:45.16 | backbone87 | ;/ |
| 23:45.38 | backbone87 | the ping me please :) |
| 23:45.48 | backbone87 | *than |
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| 23:53.53 | Primer | Only thing I didn't have in wow played in wine was 5.1 sound |
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| 23:55.27 | grennon | anyone have a suggestion for a fairly simple ace3 mod that uses acedb/aceconfig that i can use for examples? |
| 23:55.59 | grennon | trying to update my shizz from ace2 to ace3, and dump dewdrop for the ingame options UI |
| 23:57.30 | Primer | My addon uses the in-game options UI |
| 23:58.38 | Primer | If only I could find the new svn URL... |
| 23:58.59 | grennon | whats the addon name? |
| 23:59.03 | Primer | FlightHUD |
