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00:03.13Arrowmasterssh = C:\\Program Files\\PuTTY\\plink.exe
00:03.14Arrowmasterworked
00:03.46Arrowmasterit didnt like 'ssh = $GIT_SSH' though since my $GIT_SSH uses single \'s
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00:05.52BaraiusHey guys:  Stupid question is it still possible for power-user types (polite way of saying non-authors) to update via svn post-Curse?
00:06.53Arrowmasteryes
00:06.58Arrowmasterbut not all projects use svn now
00:07.51BaraiusYeah I saw the git and mercurial options.  That would be fine too.
00:08.00BaraiusHow do you get the url?
00:08.04BaraiusFor a given project?
00:08.42Arrowmastergoto the project page and click the repositiories link at the top
00:08.47BaraiusGotcha.
00:08.52BaraiusThanks much.
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00:11.37Arrowmasteromg svn+ssh:// is fucking slow on windows
00:12.04Groktarorly?
00:12.08Groktarblames Arrowmaster
00:15.09Arrowmasterif i actually had a nix box that was constantly up i think i would be looking at doing all my work on it and using rsync or something to update my addons dir
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00:23.59cubicoolHmm, what am I doing wrong: no matter what argument I pass to SetFont(), it doesn't honor my size request.
00:24.09cubicoolIs there some implicit state I need to set or something?
00:29.42NeoTronspeaking of which, did the migration zap the branches I had for wotlk?
00:33.20ckknightyes, NeoTron
00:33.28ckknightNeoTron: you can access them from oldsvn.wowace.com
00:36.00NeoTronkk
00:36.10NeoTronI have them checked out so I'm ok. only did some minor changes
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00:48.30CIA-59picobuttons: 03Tekkub 07master * r72fad21 10/ picoButtons.lua : Fix Char and Menu buttons on wrath... why the fuck is Blue using OnMouseUp now? - http://is.gd/3CVJ
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01:11.20harlis there a way to prevent certain in-game sounds to be played or to change them into other sounds?
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01:27.55ulicharl: I think you can just replace them with the exact same naming and paths found in the mpq files.
01:28.04ulicbut I'm not 100% on that.
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01:36.20harli find the sound caused by kill command quite irritating after a few times it's triggered.
01:37.04harli wouldn't risk to get banned because of changing stuff that i'm not allowed to or whatknot.
01:38.11Arrowmasterjust adding sound files to your data dir wont risk you getting baned
01:42.16quiescensdidn't they say changing models potentially risks being banned
01:42.50Xinhuansound files != models
01:44.08Arrowmasteradding model files to the data dir doesnt do anything
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02:18.15PrimerAre most WotLK addons going to be in svn still? Is there some updater that works for WotLK already?
02:20.04harlhttp://wow.harl.de/minifenster.png
02:20.48Primerwtf
02:20.56harl:p
02:21.06Shirik|Ecoledo you always play wow at 200x300 resolution?
02:21.16Shirik|Ecolesorry, 362x314
02:21.18harlcorrection: i never did.
02:22.35harli only really play at full screen
02:22.56harlbut it was fun to see how small the window mode could be made
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02:25.27Primerok, not sure if I like the absense of "true variable length bars" from Dominos
02:25.35Primeras I have an 18 slot bar
02:25.48PrimerWhere is Tuller, dammit
02:26.14Primerjeez, patching patch-2.mpq is taking forever
02:26.22Primerperhaps they should split that file up
02:26.33PrimerSooooo
02:27.04PrimerIs there an updater that works for updating addons in WotLK?
02:28.14Arrowmasterno
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02:28.41Arrowmasterand tuller wont add that to dominos
02:30.01Primerguess I'll just have 2 bars next to each other
02:30.12Primerbars can still be separate, right?
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02:30.39Primerugh, this 12m patch is taking forever to apply
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03:12.01sacarascgrrr
03:12.30sacarascusing BadBoy I just got my first piece of gold spam, to whom do I report this so they can update the database or whatever?
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03:17.48sacaraschttp://sacarasc.org/WoWScrnShot_100708_041315.jpg is a screenshot of it, anyway
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03:24.19Groktarbleeds all over sacarasc
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03:34.08sacarascthanks
03:34.44Groktaryw
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03:42.03theoddone33frost mage elesham is a fun 2v2
03:42.30Groktarwhispers a series of lewd suggestions in theoddone33's ear
03:45.03PrimerIs there a Pitbull for WotLK?
03:45.27AeyanNein
03:45.48PrimerUgh, that's a showstopper
03:45.50AeyanAt least, I don't think so.
03:46.47Zyndromenow now don't be sad ... here, let me show you the world of oUF...
03:46.57AeyanI know the Aura module doesn't work
03:47.05AeyanDisable that and it might do alright
03:47.32AeyanI shouldn't enjoy oUF as much as I do =P
03:47.36Groktaraguf is looking fairly polished
03:47.43PrimerWTF is oUF?
03:47.48AeyanIt's like some little puzzle I have to complete, hehe
03:47.57PrimerI've spent WAY too much time configuring Pitbull to abandon it
03:48.02AeyanIt's a unitframe framework, for lack of a better word
03:49.09PrimerI even wrote an addon to switch pitbull profiles based on instance/bg/arena name
03:49.26Primerwith a UI config and all
03:49.36Primerwhich integrates into pitbull's config
03:50.59Primerdoh, the low svn revision number threw me off there
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03:54.45quiescensrevision 1092477.7½
03:54.47Primervery strange, my PitBull.lua is in WTF/Acount/MyOldLogin/SavedVariables
03:54.55Primeras is my Dominos.lua
03:55.14Primerthere's nothing new in WTF/Account/myemail@address.com/SavedVariables
03:55.45PrimerSo far, old Pitbull seems to work
03:56.27DashkalDual-spec information to come at blizzcon: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/2/10638063159-how-to-fix-balance-bloat.html
03:58.35Primerok, NOW WotLK is finally usable!
04:00.28AeyanHuzzah
04:01.09PrimerAnyone know how to apply a riding crop to a dreadsteed?
04:01.38DashkalPrimer: You don't.  That feature kinda went to limbo-land.  I'll expect an answer at blizzcon most likely
04:02.03Arrowmasterlol
04:02.05Arrowmaster00:01:08 Sleepysteve asks Souv to scratch his left [Test Tickle].
04:02.18Arrowmaster"|cff71d5ff|Hspell:5025|h[Test Tickle]|h|r"
04:02.37Facktotummount trinkets do not give any speed increase in wotlk
04:04.06Facktotumtime for a sleep
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04:07.59Repo10coconuts: 03LordFarlander 042.5.76-release * r76 : Tagging as 2.5.76-release.
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04:16.20PrimerI found out today that blizzcon is sold out
04:16.33PrimerI was hoping to go, since I live close enough
04:17.57DashkalPrimer: it sold out in either 8 hours or 15 minutes depending on how you count
04:18.17Dashkalreal time was 8 hours, actual time it was available was 15 minutes
04:24.50Antiarchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni_rAamVP2s
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04:29.57Zyndrome·.\
04:39.35Arrowmasteroh wtf some lying bastard called me out
04:39.38Arrowmasterhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10638063081&sid=1
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04:51.30Daemoenhey guys
04:51.54Daemoenany *recent* pitbull uis that arent broken with the more updated pitbull releases that anyone knows of, the ones in the pitbull thread seem to all be broken to hell
04:53.53digmouseDaemoen: I'm using the latest release on live and beta and everything's ok though
04:59.16Daemoendigmouse: i mean, im looking for some nice layouts...... i am still working on learning how to set it up nicely, so wanted to play with some, but the ones i keep finding are borked with the latest pitbull, lol
04:59.50digmousemost elements of Pitbull is quite easy to setup though
05:00.01Daemoenyeah, if you know what everything is :p
05:00.11digmouseand setting up every unit is bit similiar
05:00.27Xinhuanwowowow
05:00.31Xinhuanhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10638053822&sid=1&pageNo=6#108
05:00.33digmousewhat really matters is the using of DogTag
05:00.40Xinhuan"The problem is, Caitybuns, is our technicians have not been able to verify these latency reports. I have logged into the realm and I'm not experiencing any increased latency at all. "
05:00.49Xinhuanthe whole fucking server experiences it
05:00.53Xinhuanand the GMs can't.
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05:01.30quiescensshh, its working as intended
05:01.33Daemoeni am having one serious issue with pb though...
05:01.38Xinhuanmy reply is on #118
05:01.38Daemoeni import a layout, activate it...
05:01.45Daemoenas soon as i log out... the layouts are all wiped back out
05:04.47Daemoenhttp://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6929/partyzh2.jpg  the part grouping the party is the eepanel, right?
05:11.40Daemoenalso, seems that threat bar is broken?
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05:14.27ZhinjioGood evening.
05:14.47Daemoenevening Zhinjio
05:21.32Daemoenanyone whos familiar with pitbull, could use help when youve got some time, working on trying to replicate a pb configuration 1 step at a time
05:22.22Zhinjiosure.
05:22.37Zhinjioask away, I'll try to help
05:22.42Daemoenok, first off, couple of issues with the player bars
05:23.12Daemoeni set threat to enable, but no options work.  it just allows enabled or disabled, and even when enabled, it doesnt allow anything to be changed, position or other
05:24.00Zhinjioheh. I don't use threatbar module. I use omen
05:24.03Daemoenhttp://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=6576&page=55   <---- im stepping through the one that izabel is quoting by belldandy (1 step at a time)
05:24.14Zhinjiostrike one against me.
05:24.19DaemoenZhinjio: im just trying to get the layout working :-D
05:24.31Zhinjiolooks
05:24.49Daemoeni realize its from a much much much older pitbull revision, but id expect that since im doing it piece by piece, it shouldnt be that hard to do
05:25.17Zhinjiolemme look. one sec.
05:26.27Zhinjioinitially, I'm seeing the same thing you are. enabled/disabled, everything else greyed out.
05:26.47Zhinjioit depends on threatlib being loaded, perhaps.
05:28.14Zhinjioyup, I'm seeing the same thing you are. no options configurable.
05:28.31Daemoenhrm, threatlib...
05:28.34Daemoengoes go check that
05:29.05Daemoenlemme tell ya, piecing this stuff together is a pain, lol
05:30.02DaemoenThreat-1.0
05:30.05Daemoenthat what im looking for?
05:30.09Zhinjio2.0
05:30.11ZhinjioI'm fairly sure
05:32.47Zhinjiochecks on another toon that I know has that loaded.
05:34.03ZhinjioNope, same behavior.
05:34.09Zhinjiono idea, man
05:34.14Zhinjiothats odd, for sure
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05:41.27digmousemapster works on beta or not?
05:41.52Zhinjiodigmouse: works for me
05:42.16digmousek
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05:43.11ScratchMonkey_should I be getting activation mail for wowace forums? It 302's to the curseforge registration page
05:43.27digmousemoving beta to another new HD, it runs now on the oldest HD and stuck on map change
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05:56.13Zhinjioevening, netcurse
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06:04.31Foggerthe width parameter on Gui Config elements is a bit restrictive isnt it?
06:05.08Foggerdefault too small, double too big :(
06:06.40Daemoenckknight: ping  (i know youre not here now, but i figure when you get here maybe ill be? :-D )
06:08.32DaemoenZhinjio: for your icons, any of them doing the same thing?
06:08.45Daemoenplayer icons are all behaving same way as threat...
06:09.43digmousemapster fogclear dont work on beta?
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06:13.48Daemoenanyone know where i can find the dogtag 3 syntaxes?
06:14.49Aeyanhttp://old.wowace.com/wiki/LibDogTag-3.0
06:17.18Daemoenhas a feeling fixing this layout might take longer than he thought
06:25.22ZhinjioDaemoen: dogtag has a help thinger in game now
06:25.45Zhinjiojust doing /dogtag should bring it up
06:26.12Zhinjioit also now has a "test area" so you can see what the output will look like
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06:39.02AeyanBleh, I don't think my UI will ever be good enough for me =P
06:39.16DaemoenAeyan: if youre anything like me, i know it wont :-D
06:39.35Daemoeni change mine at least twice per month, improving it (in my opinion anyway),  and im still not satisfied
06:40.09AeyanI change mine less often than I used to, by far
06:40.28AeyanBut still, everytime I get it 'just right' I get unsatisfied again
06:40.40Zyndrome;o
06:41.10ZyndromeI just keep looking for even more lightweight versions of the addons I already have
06:45.44AeyanI suppose mine's fairly light
06:45.58AeyanOr at least, as light as I'm going to have it without giving up functionality
06:46.12AeyanOr small pleasures like kgpanels
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06:53.29Zhinjiohow does kgpanels compare to eepanels2?
06:54.24AeyanPersonally, I don't think they're as easy to set up as ee
06:54.37AeyanBut you can do more with them and they're built off of Ace3
06:55.11Zhinjiothat is a plus
06:55.35AeyanI don't use it, but I understand scripting them is a lot better than ee
06:58.43Zhinjiowell, my next redesign isn't going to be until lich king
06:58.55Zhinjioso when that rolls around, I'll give it a look
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06:59.59AeyanI switched because it was one of my last holdout Ace2 addons
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07:00.12AeyanNothing wrong with that, but it seemed a waste to load all those libraries for 2-3 addons
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07:04.15Repo10bison: 03Grayal * r15 / (5 files in 1 directory): main function ready
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07:28.15vhaarrwhat's wrong with Repo?
07:28.19vhaarrhe doesn't report my commits
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07:28.52vhaarrckknight: ^
07:29.02AeyanI don't think git is reporting right now
07:29.03vhaarrdid 2 commits yesterday, he didn't report those either
07:29.08vhaarrI just use svn.
07:29.08AeyanIf you're using that
07:29.14AeyanAh, I dunno then
07:30.50ramozvhaarr: repo doesnt like you
07:31.10vhaarrunderstandable, but liking is not a prerequisite to obey
07:31.56ramozi think Repo has a new type of AI, based on liking
07:33.43vhaarrcuddles up against Repo.
07:35.20nevcairielrepo breaks once a day and needs a hug to start up again
07:36.07mitch0anyone playing on the beta right now? it would be nice if someone could test my addon with DKs (and maybe with druids/warriors)
07:37.33Zyndrome:E
07:37.34ZyndromeI r
07:37.46Zyndrome(EU beta)
07:38.35Adyscould someone point me to a quick explanation on the "..." syntax and how to use it? function foo(bar, ...) - it's not really googlable
07:39.31Zhinjiotreat it as a variable that means "the rest of the arguments not explicitly listed
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07:40.41AdysYeah, Im mostly wondering if there's any really interesting stuff I can do with it
07:40.49ramozvhaarr: it senses that you're not putting any feelings into the cuddle
07:41.00vhaarrramoz: I just did another commit and yeah, you're rigth
07:41.03vhaarrright*
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07:41.09ramozyep!
07:41.47mitch0zyndrome: could you check RangeDisplay then? :) thanks in advance
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07:43.29mitch0hm. is wowace.com down, or my connection is b0rked?
07:43.59ramozits not down
07:44.48mitch0ah, it was some local hickup
07:45.21mitch0uhm, aren't files generated if dependant libs change?
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07:46.05Arrowmasterno
07:46.07digmousepvp vendor in WGL bugged?
07:46.26nevcairielmitch0: alpha builds are, tags aer never rebuild
07:47.06Zyndromehrmmm, RangeDisplay r139 doesn't work :[
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07:48.54mitch0zyndrome: what does it say? (although I just bumped it to rebuild, as I don't think it was built when I changed LibRangeCheck)
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07:50.27mitch0zyndrome: check out r140 please
07:50.47ZyndromeI type /runewatch , and it appears like it's not even loaded, giving you the default "Type /help blah blah" msg
07:51.05Zyndrome*update omg*
07:51.57mitch0zyndrome: /rangedisplay config brings up the config ui
07:52.02mitch0or at least it should :)
07:52.14Zyndromebleh, /rangedisplay .. using X amount of addons :E
07:52.52Zyndromedisabling all addons and leaving just RD
07:53.08Zyndromenope, doesn't even load
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07:53.41Lukian!ap 1231
07:53.42Xinhuan1231 rating gives 284(5s), 250(3s) and 216(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
07:53.53mitch0damn...
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07:53.59mitch0could you pastey the error?
07:56.08ZyndromeInterface\AddOns\RangeDisplay\RangeDisplay.lua:15: Cannot find a library instance of "LibRangeCheck-2.0".
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07:56.23mitch0wtf
07:56.30mitch0did you install the -nolib version?
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07:56.56Zyndromeneg, Imma try that :<
07:57.19mitch0erm, the -nolib wouldn't work
07:57.32mitch0the normal .zip should have LibRangeCheck-2.0 bundled...
07:57.38Zyndromethat's the one I installed
07:57.41mitch0maybe I screwed up some path
07:58.02Zyndromeand ofc Coldarra goes /wrists again
07:58.13mitch0hm. path seems to be correct
07:58.21mitch0damn
07:59.05mitch0unless using '/' instead of '\' is bad in embeds.xml
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07:59.21Arrowmasterin xml you need to use \
07:59.25Arrowmasteri think
07:59.26mitch0goddam
07:59.31mitch0why? :(
07:59.31Arrowmastertoc too
07:59.36mitch0how does it work in mac then?
07:59.41Arrowmastersame way
07:59.44mitch0stupid blizz
07:59.53Arrowmasterits mainly a windows game
07:59.56Zyndromemitch0 yells: WRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
08:00.02mitch0actually, stupid M$ for screwing it up in the first place...
08:00.10mitch0zyndrome: sec, I'll correct it :)
08:00.11Arrowmasterthats the spirit
08:00.25Arrowmasteryou use / in everything except toc and xml though
08:02.11mitch0commited, hopefully it'll be packaged soonish
08:02.25mitch0zyndrome: there it is. please try r141
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08:03.23Zyndromenot atm though, the EU beta server enjoys to go down regularly
08:03.51mitch0my slashes killed it :)
08:04.04mitch0but really, how stupid is it to used \ instead of / :(
08:04.26mitch0arrow: do I have to use \\ or simple \ in embeds.xml?
08:04.36Arrowmaster\
08:05.01Arrowmasteryou use \ instead of / in everything wow touches
08:05.35Arrowmasterits just that most other stuff uses / since they were developed for nix or mac
08:06.23Xinhuanu use \ for everything except in pure lua code, where you have to use \\ due to lua text parsing
08:06.59Arrowmasteryou cant use \ in svn externals or .pkgmeta
08:07.27Xinhuani was referring to files that wow reads
08:07.34Arrowmasteryeah
08:08.01Arrowmasterwell you can use \ in lua if you use [[...\...]] but otherwise its "...\\..."
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08:08.36mitch0\ is evil
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08:09.40Zyndromeprepare to rage
08:09.40ZyndromeoShit: (1): Interface\AddOns\RangeDisplay\RangeDisplay.lua:15: Cannot find a library instance of "LibRangeCheck-2.0".
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08:09.59SroshMh, does vBulletin differentiate between screen- and accountname?
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08:10.19AntiarcLocBot: locate antiarc
08:10.20LocBotAntiarc: Antiarc is in Scottsdale, AZ, United States (Map: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=33.5610008239746+-111.908897399902&ie=UTF8&ll=33.5610008239746,-111.908897399902&spn=0.202125,0.520477&z=12)
08:10.23Antiarc\o/
08:10.38AntiarcMy first IRC bot!
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08:10.50ZhinjioLocBot: locate zhinjio
08:10.51LocBotZhinjio: Zhinjio is in Denver, CO, United States (Map: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=39.6716995239258+-104.927101135254&ie=UTF8&ll=39.6716995239258,-104.927101135254&spn=0.202125,0.520477&z=12)
08:10.56Zhinjioclose.
08:10.57Zhinjionice
08:10.58sb|workmh
08:11.22SroshI think my problem with the forum may be caused by the fact that I used a different screenname than my accountname on the old board (screenname = curse accountname).
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08:12.22AeyanMeh, screw it. Just going to stay up and see if I can get my sleep schedule fixed.
08:12.30ArrowmasterLocBot: locate Arrowmaster
08:12.35Antiarcyou killed it :(
08:12.36Arrowmasterha
08:12.43AntiarcBecause you're cloaked, aha
08:13.01Arrowmasterim not reponsible for that
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08:13.52SroshOr does someone have a better idea why I'm logged in on the main page but not on the forums?
08:13.55nevcairielIts kinda silly that you can pinpoint your location like that based on your host address .. its not even close around here =P
08:14.11ArrowmasterLocBot: locate nevcairiel
08:14.12LocBotArrowmaster: I don't know where nevcairiel is from! (Are they cloaked?)
08:14.45AeyanLocBot: locate Aeyan
08:14.45LocBotAeyan: Aeyan is in Greensboro, NC, United States (Map: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=36.1207008361816+-79.8945999145508&ie=UTF8&ll=36.1207008361816,-79.8945999145508&spn=0.202125,0.520477&z=12)
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08:14.50AeyanNifty
08:14.57nevcairielLocBot: locate nevcairiel`
08:14.58LocBotnevcairiel: nevcairiel` is in Prisdorf, 10, Germany (Map: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=53.6833000183105+9.75&ie=UTF8&ll=53.6833000183105,9.75&spn=0.202125,0.520477&z=12)
08:15.24Zhinjionow thats pretty sexy
08:15.34AeyanIt's 5.1 miles off, but that's pretty good I'd say.
08:15.47Pucmelbig brother
08:15.50nevcairielmine is like 100 km off
08:16.13Zhinjiowell, I suspect its only as accurate as your last tracerouteable hop.
08:16.17Arrowmasterif i declock im guessing it will either tell me one of two towns, one of which is correct and the other is really close
08:16.18AntiarcYup
08:16.21Zhinjioresolvable
08:17.04Zhinjioanyone in beta wanna look at the new URL and critique the new gui?
08:17.10Zhinjiohew ARL, rather
08:17.19Zhinjionew
08:17.24Zhinjiojesus my typing is bad tonight
08:17.45Zhinjiosvn://svn.wowace.com/wow/arl/wotlk-branch/trunk
08:18.17mitch0locbot doesn't reply to /msg?
08:18.38AntiarcNot right now
08:18.40AntiarcI just wrote him!
08:18.55mitch0Zyndrome: any progress? :)
08:18.59Zyndromeno
08:19.02mitch0LocBot: locate mitch0
08:19.03LocBotmitch0: mitch0 is in Szentendre, 16, Hungary (Map: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=47.6666984558105+19.0832996368408&ie=UTF8&ll=47.6666984558105,19.0832996368408&spn=0.202125,0.520477&z=12)
08:19.06Zyndromestill says the lib doesnt exist
08:19.11mitch0sorry for the spam then, it's all Antiarc's fault
08:19.29mitch0gah
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08:22.18Xinhuan16??
08:22.32mitch0zyndrome: you tried the normal r141.zip, right? not the nolibs version?
08:23.08mitch0zyndrome: anyway, thanks for the help, I'll check it out @home on the live (I only tried the -nolib config...)
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08:24.36mitch0gah, I think I know what I screwed up... s,/,\,g was a bit too much ;)
08:26.19mitch0r142 will be teh win
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08:27.02orionshockok... im gona try my first merge...
08:27.06orionshocki hope this works...
08:27.09mitch0nah
08:27.25mitch0it'll introduce a bug you'll never be able to hunt down
08:27.27mitch0:P
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08:28.56Zhinjiogood evening, orionshock
08:29.03mitch0btw, do I need to do anything special to support the new MX locale? or AceLocale-3.0 will gracefully fall back to US?
08:29.12orionshockZhinjio: yo
08:31.02mitch0zyndrome: one last try? (with r142)?
08:31.09Zyndromewintergrasp atm
08:31.27mitch0what is wintergrasp? :)
08:32.13orionshockmitch0: seems to have worked well
08:32.24AeyanWorld PvP zone
08:32.27orionshock.... nevcairiel u wana fix the description page for LibStub?
08:32.31orionshockor Arrowmaster ?
08:32.38AeyanKind of like a non-battleground battleground =P
08:33.10Zyndromewhich is bugged
08:33.13Zyndromeand alliance sucks
08:33.13Arrowmasterbusy
08:33.23Arrowmasterand damnit my /vid doesnt work with MPC-HC
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08:33.56Lukian!ap 1410
08:33.57Xinhuan1410 rating gives 324(5s), 285(3s) and 246(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
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08:36.02digmouse!ap 1558
08:36.02Xinhuan1558 rating gives 411(5s), 362(3s) and 312(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
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08:39.31orionshockthere, LibStub's first ticket ... :P
08:41.27mitch0orion: to place it in a subdir? :)
08:41.34theoddone33my pre-xpac goals involve like 10k gold :(
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08:44.56mitch0that reminds me, 2 days ago I had 2222g 22s 22c :)
08:45.24AntiarcLocBot: where is ckknight?
08:45.25LocBotAntiarc: I don't know where ckknight is from! (Are they cloaked?)
08:45.28AntiarcAww :(
08:46.00XinhuanLocBot: where is LocBot?
08:46.01LocBotXinhuan: LocBot is in Scottsdale, AZ, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3DPb)
08:46.11AntiarcLocBot: Where is Xinhuan?
08:46.12LocBotAntiarc: I don't know where Xinhuan is from! (Are they cloaked?)
08:46.14Antiarc:(
08:46.29theoddone33LocBot: where is theoddone33
08:46.30LocBottheoddone33: theoddone33 is in Oxnard, CA, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3DPC)
08:46.33thulCLONED!?
08:46.35thulCLONES!
08:46.41theoddone33ah, good
08:46.44theoddone3320 miles off
08:46.47thulLocBot: where is thul
08:46.48LocBotthul: thul is in Tonstad, 19, Norway (Map: http://is.gd/3DPE)
08:46.56thulerhm, no
08:46.56thul:-P
08:47.18nevcairielonly US people have a router on every other block
08:47.31AntiarcMore or less
08:47.57AntiarcThe more technologically-saturated an area, the better the chances of it being accurate are
08:48.23nevcairieldoesnt matter how saturated the area here is, you always end up being display on one the bigger routers
08:48.29nevcairielmaybe they dont feed data for the smaller ones
08:48.32Xinhuanwas your location correct Antiarc ;p
08:48.32nevcairielor block traces
08:48.43AntiarcMy location is about a mile from my apartment, yes
08:48.45thulAntiarc: pft :-P norway is supertechnologysaturated :-D
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08:50.28theoddone33hm
08:50.41theoddone33is there a unix program that does that same thing?
08:50.50AntiarcWhat, geolocation?
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08:50.55theoddone33yeah
08:50.58Antiarchttp://www.maxmind.com/app/geolitecity is the DB it uses
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08:51.44theoddone33could come in handy next time I've got a mysterious ip in my netstat
08:52.31ramozLocBot: where is is ramoz?
08:52.33LocBotramoz: ramoz is in Oslo, 12, Norway (Map: http://is.gd/3DQu)
08:53.14thulhaha, the Ig Nobel prices rock
08:53.15thul:-D
08:53.17ramozthink thats NIX for the norwegian people
08:55.31theoddone33hm
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08:55.44theoddone33I wonder if anyone's ever thought about an AB strategy mod
08:56.01AntiarcToo many factors to draw conclusions from I think
08:56.06theoddone33approximates the people on the other team at each node and communicates with others that have it
08:56.16AntiarcOh
08:56.18theoddone33suggests a target or defense strat
08:56.19AntiarcArathi Basin
08:56.21theoddone33based on the info
08:56.23AntiarcNot "AB testing"
08:56.36JY`mmh
08:56.50theoddone33or just collates the info into a useful box so a reasonably intelligent person could draw their own conclusions
08:56.57JY`being reactive is the most effective strat
08:57.04JY`so TS is still the best
08:57.33theoddone33hm I think that keeping the pressure on the other team is the best strat
08:57.40theoddone33rather than wait around and defend nodes
08:58.05orionshock.. did we pick up a new bot?
08:58.29*** join/#wowace LocBot (n=LocBot@wsip-70-184-82-98.ph.ph.cox.net)
08:58.40Antiarcorionshock: I'm testing it
08:58.44AntiarcLocBot: locate orionshock
08:58.44LocBotAntiarc: orionshock is in Tempe, AZ, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3DQX)
08:58.45orionshockah
08:58.47AntiarcI just wrote it
08:58.48Antiarc:O
08:58.50AntiarcYou're in tempe?
08:58.52orionshockcreepy Antiarc
08:58.57Antiarc<-- scottsdale
08:59.01orionshockjust creepy
08:59.07orionshockya im in south tempee
08:59.14JY`LocBot: locate JY`
08:59.15LocBotJY`: JY` is in Roubaix, B4, France (Map: http://is.gd/3DQZ)
08:59.22orionshockewww, Antiarc ur in snotsdale?
08:59.27Antiarc:(
08:59.31orionshockhehe
08:59.38AntiarcI can't -afford- anything here
08:59.43theoddone33I like phoenix area
08:59.45orionshockouch...
08:59.45AntiarcBut I live here because it was close to work
08:59.51theoddone33used to head there once a year for baseball
09:00.04orionshockas long as there ain't anyone in here with AT&T DSL, im cool ...
09:00.10orionshockotherwise it's the /ignore for u
09:00.17AntiarcHeh, why's that?
09:00.23*** join/#wowace jy (n=jy@rob92-5-82-229-238-237.fbx.proxad.net)
09:00.28AntiarcI use Cox, because DSL out here is teh suck
09:00.35JY`LocBot: locate jy
09:00.36LocBotJY`: jy is in Châtenay-malabry, A8, France (Map: http://is.gd/3DRc)
09:00.39orionshocki work for them, i'd rather not speak to customers while not at work.
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09:00.41JY`oh very nice :p
09:00.44Antiarcaha, okay
09:01.03orionshockAntiarc: well, qwest is deploying their new fiber service
09:01.11orionshock12mb down on DSL, it's pritty nice
09:01.17AntiarcThat's pretty schmecksy
09:01.23[SW]Dodgesomeone knows the travel speed of the 19k mammoth?
09:01.34theoddone33isn't it 100%?
09:01.35Fisker-the same as all other mounts
09:01.37Fisker-duh
09:01.42theoddone33er 150 or whatever it is
09:01.46orionshock[SW]Dodge: the joke is 19kph mamoth
09:01.48GnarfozLocBot: locate Gnarfoz
09:01.49LocBotGnarfoz: I don't know where Gnarfoz is from! (Are they cloaked?)
09:01.53[SW]Dodgedooh :_:
09:01.54Gnarfozoh, right.
09:02.20orionshockGnarfoz: what's ur IP?
09:02.25*** join/#wowace jy (n=jy@2a01:e35:2e5e:eed0:218:f3ff:fe07:70d7)
09:02.26orionshockthat's what the bot goes off of :P
09:02.35JY`LocBot: locate jy
09:02.35LocBotJY`: I don't know where jy is from!
09:02.36GnarfozI know, it's not hard to figure how it works :p
09:02.40JY`hehe :)
09:02.57AntiarcHaha, sneaky
09:03.02Gnarfozalso, decloaking wouldn't help, that'd still just locate my dedicated server ;p
09:03.06orionshockand as the Repo bot is borked...
09:03.14AntiarcI wonder how hard it would be to get it to read ipv6
09:03.28Gnarfozmake it read IPs supplied directly ;)
09:03.34Gnarfozlike locate 123.123.123.123
09:03.36AntiarcYeah, I should do so.
09:03.46orionshockBehold - i release SickOfClickingDailies v6 http://www.wowace.com/projects/sick-of-clicking-dailies/files/133-v6/
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09:04.18orionshocki know im cheep >.>
09:04.41phybercheepcheep.
09:04.55theoddone33psyn eh?
09:04.55Fisker-slaps orionshock around a bit with a large trout
09:06.03mitch0orion: this is the one that defaults to accepting all quests, and you can override with shift-click?
09:06.21orionshockmitch0: no..
09:06.29mitch0omm.. ok then ;)
09:06.33orionshockonly daily quests
09:06.36orionshocklike it's always been
09:07.05Chosianyone got some traffic stats for the dead wowace repository?
09:07.08AeyanLocBot: locate JY`
09:07.09LocBotAeyan: JY` is in Roubaix, B4, France (Map: http://is.gd/3DQZ)
09:07.17AeyanIt's magic
09:07.45VonhintenHOME`LocBot: locate VonhintenHOME`
09:07.46LocBotVonhintenHOME`: VonhintenHOME` is in Tallahassee, FL, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3DSj)
09:07.57VonhintenHOME`nice
09:08.13Antiarcrestarting it for raw IP lookips!
09:08.17*** join/#wowace ANTRat (n=antrat@rrcs-97-76-73-47.se.biz.rr.com)
09:08.34orionshockAntiarc: http://forums.wowace.com/group.php?groupid=1   go :D
09:08.36*** join/#wowace LocBot (n=LocBot@wsip-70-184-82-98.ph.ph.cox.net)
09:08.36VonhintenHOME`Ok, that's actually pretty fucking scary
09:08.43VonhintenHOME`That map was reaaaally close to my house
09:09.01AntiarcLocBot: locate 70.184.82.98
09:09.04Antiarc:(
09:09.07AntiarcIt didn't like that.
09:09.42*** join/#wowace LocBot (n=LocBot@wsip-70-184-82-98.ph.ph.cox.net)
09:09.44AntiarcLocBot: locate 70.184.82.98
09:09.44LocBotAntiarc: 70.184.82.98 is in Scottsdale, AZ, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3DPb)
09:09.45[SW]Dodgeorionshock: i'm in :>
09:09.47AntiarcWoot
09:09.57orionshockLocBot: locate orionshock
09:09.58LocBotorionshock: orionshock is in Tempe, AZ, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3DQX)
09:10.00*** join/#wowace Dave2 (i=Dave2@freenode/staff/dave2)
09:10.12[SW]DodgeLocBot: locate [SW]Dodge
09:10.13LocBot[SW]Dodge: [SW]Dodge is in Schermbeck, 07, Germany (Map: http://is.gd/3DSy)
09:10.36[SW]Dodge~fail LocBot
09:10.39purlLocBot: FAIL!
09:10.42Antiarc:(
09:10.43orionshockmine is way off
09:10.52phyberLocBot: locate phyber
09:10.55LocBotphyber: phyber is in London, H9, United Kingdom (Map: http://is.gd/3DSE)
09:11.02orionshockAntiarc: just make sure u don't get purl and LocBot in a loop :D
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09:11.09phybernegative, LocBot.
09:11.09orionshockLocBot: locate purl
09:11.10LocBotorionshock: I don't know where purl is from! (Are they cloaked?)
09:11.14JY`LocBot: locate 82.227.13.115
09:11.15LocBotJY`: 82.227.13.115 is in Évry, A8, France (Map: http://is.gd/3DSI)
09:11.21AntiarcI don't think there's syntax that could get them in a loop
09:11.21phyberLocBot: locate LocBot
09:11.22LocBotphyber: LocBot is in Scottsdale, AZ, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3DPb)
09:11.39JY`LocBot: locate www.wow-europe.com
09:11.39LocBotI don't know who that is, JY`. Are they in this channel?
09:11.45JY`LocBot: locate 80.239.186.22
09:11.46LocBotJY`: 80.239.186.22 is in France (Map: http://is.gd/3DSN)
09:11.49AntiarcIt doesn't do name resolution
09:11.54JY`:)
09:12.07mitch0the avatar upload is broken (at least with opera)
09:12.19EthanCentauraiLocBot: locate EthanCentaurai
09:12.20JY`not very precise this one :p
09:12.22LocBotEthanCentaurai: EthanCentaurai is in London, H9, United Kingdom (Map: http://is.gd/3DSE)
09:12.32AntiarcIt's a free database; I'm not gonna complain too much.
09:12.32[SW]DodgeAntiarc: is LocBot your bot? if yes tell me what the 07 is for my location :D
09:12.33EthanCentaurai~fail LocBot
09:12.34purlLocBot, you Fail!
09:12.37AntiarcYes, it is my bot
09:12.41AntiarcAnd 07 is a "region"
09:12.45AntiarcI don't know what it means.
09:12.57AntiarcThat's from the Maxmind geocitylite database
09:13.32[SW]Dodgemake it to lookup the correct name instead of the number :D
09:14.52EthanCentauraiLocBot is a bit off... I'm not in London, I'm in Glasgow! :D
09:14.54JY`LocBot: locate 193.54.195.58
09:14.55LocBotJY`: 193.54.195.58 is in École, B9, France (Map: http://is.gd/3DSY)
09:15.04JY`mmh
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09:15.15[SW]DodgeLocBot: locate 127.0.0.1
09:15.15LocBot[SW]Dodge: I don't know where 127.0.0.1 is from!
09:15.16mitch0ok, what needs to be done to upload an image as an avatar on wowace?
09:15.20JY`fail
09:15.27mitch0tried 3 browsers so far...
09:15.41EthanCentauraimitch0: I used the CurseForge page with Firefox 3
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09:15.54EthanCentauraithe avatars are shared between CurseForge and AceForge
09:16.02mitch0ethan: what file format?
09:16.09EthanCentauraiI used jpg
09:16.26mitch0hm. maybe it doesn't liek .jpeg
09:16.36Arrowmasterthe wowace page is broken i think
09:16.48Arrowmasterand you need to use curseforge
09:17.40Zhinjioping?
09:17.40Zhinjioam I here?
09:17.53EthanCentauraiKonnichiwa Zhinjio-san :)
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09:21.35AeyanActually I have a different forum avatar than my Curse profile avatar
09:22.53GnarfozLocBot: locate 87.162.231.141
09:22.56LocBotGnarfoz: 87.162.231.141 is in Harsum, 06, Germany (Map: http://is.gd/3DUd)
09:23.09Gnarfozclose, but not accurate ^^
09:23.56Gnarfozit's funny, that reminds me of those targeted dating/softporn ads "find a partner from *town close to where you live, but absurdly wrong*" xD
09:24.15EthanCentauraiLocBot: locate 78.146.49.190
09:24.18LocBotEthanCentaurai: 78.146.49.190 is in London, H9, United Kingdom (Map: http://is.gd/3DSE)
09:24.29EthanCentaurainope, still wrong
09:24.36Arrowmasterthe geolocation stuff is just off a lot in europe it seems
09:24.46Arrowmasterits really accurate in the us
09:25.08AntiarcGnarfoz: It's the same tech
09:25.16mitch0erm, that avatar image makes me nervous... guess I'll delete it ;)
09:25.18GnarfozI know, that's why it reminds me of it :P
09:25.42mitch0damn, can't remove it...
09:25.56AeyanHaha
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09:26.49EthanCentauraimitch0: upload another avatar, the old one should get overwritten
09:26.56EthanCentaurainice mugshot btw :P
09:27.59ZyndromeLocBot: locate Zyndrome
09:28.00mitch0;)
09:28.01LocBotZyndrome: Zyndrome is in Arvika, 22, Sweden (Map: http://is.gd/3DUF)
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09:28.11Zyndrome:\
09:28.14mitch0ethan: I only have an even more mugshotish one at hand ;)
09:28.20mitch0it's even black-and-white :)
09:28.50EthanCentauraiLocBot: locate Cairenn
09:28.50LocBotI don't know who that is, EthanCentaurai. Are they in this channel?
09:28.55EthanCentaurai:(
09:28.56Zyndromejust 40 kilometers away, and 3 year late
09:29.03GnarfozLocBot: locate Cairenn|afk
09:29.04LocBotGnarfoz: I don't know where Cairenn|afk is from! (Are they cloaked?)
09:29.14Gnarfozduh. :X
09:29.27ZyndromeLocBot: locate 81.233.205.74
09:29.27LocBotZyndrome: 81.233.205.74 is in Arvika, 22, Sweden (Map: http://is.gd/3DUF)
09:29.38ZyndromeNO I'M NOT >:|
09:29.43Zyndromebah, shoptime
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09:32.21AntiarcLocBot: Where do you think Chompers is?
09:32.24LocBotAntiarc: Chompers is in Coventry, C7, United Kingdom (Map: http://is.gd/3DV7)
09:33.23GnarfozLocBot: Antiarc
09:33.34Gnarfozwell, what are the keywords, then. ;P
09:33.39Antiarcwho, where, locate
09:33.46Gnarfozheh ;)
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09:36.34XinhuanLocBot: hi
09:36.45XinhuanLocBot: hi who are you?
09:36.45LocBotI don't know who that is, Xinhuan. Are they in this channel?
09:36.46AntiarcLocBot is rather stupid, and has a limited vocabulary
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09:36.57Xinhuanlol
09:37.25JY`LocBot: marry me ?
09:39.37ElkanoLocBot: Do you know the Turing Test?
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09:41.56ZhinjioElkano: do you have time to take a look at the new ARL gui in beta?
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09:42.40Elkanolater maybe, sure :)
09:42.55Zhinjiosvn://svn.wowace.com/wow/arl/wotlk-branch/trunk
09:43.02Zhinjioand whenever. I'd love some feedback
09:54.52Elkanoit's wotlk only, isn't it?
09:55.31ZhinjioElkano: yes
09:55.40ZhinjioI think it probably works in ptr too
09:55.49Zhinjiobit I've not personally tested it
09:56.41mitch0anyone working on AceConfigTab-3.0?
09:57.48ArrowmasterAceConfigTab???
09:57.52Arrowmasteri dont think that exists
09:58.01Xinhuanno
09:58.47nevcairielit does exist
09:58.51nevcairielits part of AceTab
09:59.12sb|workLocBot: locate 80.67.16.8
09:59.14LocBotsb|work: 80.67.16.8 is in Ismaning, 02, Germany (Map: http://is.gd/3DXF)
09:59.20sb|workmh.. no
09:59.36sb|workoh yes.. it is :p
09:59.40sb|workLocBot: locate 78.42.200.228
09:59.41LocBotsb|work: 78.42.200.228 is in Stuttgart, 01, Germany (Map: http://is.gd/3DXJ)
09:59.49XinhuanLocBot: locate 127.0.0.1
09:59.49LocBotXinhuan: I don't know where 127.0.0.1 is from!
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10:00.02Xinhuanwoo i just owned LocBot!
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10:00.36mitch0so, whoever started AceConfigTab gave up on it?
10:00.44sbingneryou guys know of any mod that has a shitlist? for same faction -- just like friends, except for people you don't like
10:00.51sbingnerneed to remember who pisses me off!
10:01.08Xinhuanmitch0: ace3 has not been in active development since jan or feb this year
10:01.15Xinhuanits only been "maintained" if bugs crops up
10:01.16Fisker-slaps Xinhuan around a bit with a large trout
10:01.51nevcairielthere is not much to be actively developed =P
10:02.00mitch0xin: so? is it not expected to add functionality to Ace3?
10:02.14Xinhuanyeah, but no one is doing it
10:02.20Arrowmastersome functionality has been added
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10:02.36Arrowmasterbut its mostly to AceConfigDialog or AceGUI i think
10:02.39mitch0so, I could go finish AceConfigTab if I wish, right?
10:02.48Arrowmasterwhat does it do?
10:03.00nevcairielUnless someone comes up with a real need for AceTab and wants to work on it, we're going to dump it completly some time
10:03.06mitch0well, it should tab-complete commands based on the options table
10:03.11ZhinjioXinhuan: why do you gotta be such a hater. I'm not feelin' the love, man.
10:03.16Zhinjioheh
10:03.20Xinhuantechnically yes
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10:03.34Arrowmasterthats just AceTab-3.0
10:03.38Arrowmasterwhich already exists
10:03.45nevcairielAceConfigTab is part of AceTab
10:03.48nevcairiellook at the files :P
10:03.56mitch0but AceTab doesn't do this automagically
10:03.59Arrowmasteryes i just noticed that after saying that
10:04.17EthanCentauraisbingner: I use the Ignore List myself, otherwise http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4538-CirksBadapples.html may be what you're looking for :)
10:04.33mitch0I would like at least some basic functionality, 'cos I kinda like tab completion
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10:04.46Xinhuanwhat i said remains true
10:05.02nevcairielThe dev working on AceTab disappeared, and noone else ever saw the need for the lib
10:05.09nevcairielso we discontinued it for now =P
10:05.19Arrowmasteras a lib yeah it does seem kinda weird
10:05.33Xinhuanit would be more useful as a standalone addon
10:05.35Xinhuanthan as a lib
10:05.39Arrowmasteryeah
10:05.47Xinhuanbecause its functionality isn't meant for addons
10:07.25Fisker-i'm so sick nevcairiel :(
10:07.27Xinhuanin fact, i don't see why its a lib at all lol
10:07.39vhaarrit's a lib because you can register custom completions for your addon
10:07.48vhaarrsay if you have an addon that accepts text input, like a player name
10:07.52vhaarror whatever
10:08.00vhaarrbut, yeah
10:08.07vhaarrcould've just as well been an addon :p
10:08.14Xinhuanhow would registering for custom completions work?
10:08.15Arrowmastersplit it into a lib and an addon?
10:08.35vhaarrXinhuan: I don't know, I haven't checked AceTab-3.0 at all, but I did it once with -2.0 a long time ago
10:08.39vhaarrnot sure what it was for but
10:08.40Xinhuanwouldn't it just be in the aceopt table
10:08.44vhaarrit was pretty useless anyway
10:08.47vhaarrno no
10:09.01nevcairielyou could use it to auto-complete items
10:09.03nevcairielor player names
10:09.05vhaarryou could register completions for arbitrary text inputs
10:09.31Xinhuani see, sounds useless
10:09.40mitch0so, should I spend cycles on it, or it won't be accepted anyway?
10:09.43Xinhuani bet less than 2 addons used it ;p
10:09.53vhaarryes Xinhuan
10:10.15Xinhuananything that less than 2 addons would use, shouldn't be a lib
10:11.22mitch0xin: actually, AceConfigCmd could be extended to provide tab completion automagically (without any work from the addon authors)
10:11.55nevcairielCmd interfaces shouldnt be used anyway =P
10:12.06mitch0but if the general consesus is that it's useless, and won't be merged in, then I won't spend time on it
10:12.30Arrowmasterwhats wrong with cmd interfaces?
10:12.49Arrowmasterimho a lot of ace3 stuff is seriously lacking because it doesnt offer cmd interfaces
10:12.58nevcairielwe need to decide what to do with AceTab anyway, right now we're leaning towards just dumping it, because noone was ever interested to work on it, or use it
10:13.10nevcairielArrowmaster: thats your opinion :p
10:13.22mitch0nev: but is it in a working state now? if so, why not keep it?
10:13.31nevcairielIts not
10:13.41nevcairielnot what i would accept as working
10:13.43nevcairielso i would remove it
10:13.54mitch0what would you accept as working then?
10:14.03nevcairielsomething that works flawlessly
10:14.17Aeyancmd interfaces with more than one level frustrate me in addons
10:14.38mitch0aeyan: they would frustrate you less with tab completion...
10:14.52nevcairielmangling one options table to provide proper GUI and proper Cmd is evil
10:14.58AeyanPerhaps, but doubtful
10:18.09mitch0ok, I'll look into it, if it's not too much work, I'll try to come up with something, and you could check if it's worth it or not
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10:18.38Xinhuanthe slash command only has /omen center|toggle|config
10:18.38Xinhuanat the moment anyway
10:18.38Xinhuancan't really think of anything else it would need
10:18.41mitch0xin: yet I'd like to type /om<TAB> co<TAB> ...
10:18.47sb|workXinhuan: reset
10:18.55Xinhuanwrite an addon that does it, for all ace addons
10:19.02Xinhuanreset? what for?
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10:19.08Xinhuanblizzard gives accurate threat values
10:19.25Xinhuanif the boss does a threat wipe on phase change, you can be sure omen3 will display it correctly
10:19.26sb|workwell - if that works :)
10:19.29mitch0xin: for all addons is kinda impossible...
10:19.35sb|workokay, no reset then ;0
10:19.52Xinhuanmitch0: i meant the addon would work on all ace3 addons
10:20.11mitch0xin: that's the goal
10:20.13Xinhuanthat registered with aceconfig
10:20.31mitch0xin: but it might be easier to implement in AceConfigCmd, and not in a separate addon
10:20.52Xinhuanbut i see such functionality pointless in a library that is meant to be embedded
10:21.00nevcairielIts not going into AceConfigCmd
10:21.04nevcairieli can tell you that much
10:21.14Arrowmastermitch0: no its not
10:21.20Arrowmasterthat used aceconfigcmd
10:21.22Arrowmasterno
10:21.47mitch0well, I don't know how I can technically catch TAB when typing in stuff
10:21.55Arrowmaster....
10:22.00mitch0will check. if it's possible in a separate addon, I have no objection
10:22.15nevcairielAceTab is seperate already
10:22.19nevcairielso its possible
10:22.23Arrowmastereditbox:SetScript("OnTabPressed", ...)
10:22.54mitch0ok, will work on a separate addon then
10:23.00mitch0see what I can do
10:23.01nevcairielThe problem is, that only one addon should probably ever do tab completion
10:23.05mitch0maybe I'll just give up
10:23.07Xinhuannot true
10:23.09nevcairielthats why it was put in a library
10:23.49Xinhuansome addons like ludwig/lootlink offer tab completion for item links
10:23.49Xinhuanlike type [runeclot<tab> and it should complete to the first match and turn it into an actual link
10:24.16Xinhuanjust a matter of hooking the ontabpressed script properly
10:24.28Xinhuaninstead of overwriting the previous ontabpressed script
10:24.32nevcairielyeah but if you have too many addons trying to do it, and two try to complete the same thing, you get weirdness
10:24.44mitch0basically, just call the old one if I can't do anything meaningful, right?
10:24.55Xinhuanthose addons should have options to turn tab completion off
10:24.55Xinhuani'm sure lootlink has it ;p
10:25.28mitch0alright, let's forget tabs now :)
10:25.45Xinhuandon't forget
10:25.48Xinhuanthe default UI
10:25.51Xinhuanalready has tab completion
10:25.59mitch0other topic: yesterday someone told me that IsItemInRange() would work if the itemid is already in the cache
10:26.00Xinhuanfor the /slash part at least
10:26.12mitch0so, how does these itemids get into the cache?
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10:26.30mitch0or how can I make them appear in the cache or at least check if they're there
10:27.02Arrowmastertooltip:sethyperlink()
10:27.13Xinhuanit gets into the cache if you have seen the item before since last cache wipe
10:27.13Xinhuanor specifically query
10:27.13Xinhuanvia a tooltip
10:27.40Xinhuanthat has its own set of problems
10:27.48mitch0so tooltip:sethyperlink("linen bandage") would make subsequent IsItemInRange("linen bandage") work?
10:27.53Arrowmasterno
10:28.00Xinhuanonly if the server gave you a reply
10:28.13Arrowmasterwhich it wont for a name
10:28.31Xinhuani.e the server must have seen the item linen bandage before
10:28.31Xinhuanand the reply isn't instantaeneous
10:28.31Xinhuanand if you query too many items, you can get d/ced
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10:28.38mitch0but since linen bandage is an "end product" of a first-aid recipe, I could reasonable expect it would work
10:28.47Arrowmasterit wont
10:28.54Arrowmastersince it wont know what "linen bandage" is
10:28.56Xinhuannot if you're the server first to log in
10:29.10Arrowmasteryou have to use itemlinks
10:29.34mitch0arrow: yeah, that part is clear, I used "linen bandage" as a placeholder for the actual link
10:29.48mitch0and for the itemid as well in the second call...
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10:30.25mitch0but assuming that the character has first aid, I should ensure the cache presence of linen bandage with that tooltip thing
10:30.46mitch0and it should work, as I bet it works if I click on the crafting window
10:30.54Xinhuanthere is a lot of assumptions u see
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10:30.57Xinhuanwhich may not be true
10:31.23mitch0I don't see how else it could work (given that the default ui works...)
10:31.27Xinhuani assure you a death knight does not know what "linen bandage" is
10:31.30Xinhuanon creation
10:31.51Arrowmasteryes they do
10:31.51thulhttp://freecaster.tv/1000006_1006069
10:31.52Xinhuanand if a GM told you to delete your WTF, INTERFACE and CACHE folder, you will forget what a linen bandage is as well
10:32.00mitch0unless you think that if I don't have any linen bandages on me, and I'm the first one to enter the game and I open my first-aid crafting window, I could create an error by tring to link the linen bandage
10:32.02Xinhuanno Arrowmaster, they can only make runecloth bandages
10:32.06Xinhuani think
10:32.16Arrowmasteri dont think so
10:32.23Arrowmasterbut i havent been on my DK in a while
10:32.30Xinhuannope mitch0
10:32.45Xinhuanthe act of opening the crafting window
10:32.54Xinhuanwill make your wow client query the server of the items yu can make
10:33.15mitch0ok, so it would be possible to open and close the crafting window then, wouldn't it?
10:33.27mitch0(programmatically, that is)
10:33.35mitch0and that would make linen bandage cached
10:33.38Xinhuanyes, but it only seems to work for some professions
10:33.57Xinhuanno idea why
10:34.00mitch0alright, try another aproach:
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10:34.28mitch0if in my init code I only insert the itemid check if the tooltip setting worked, I would be safe, right?
10:34.46Xinhuanwhat is your goal?
10:35.06mitch0(in the rare case where the linen bandage is not in cache, the user won't have range-checking for bandage)
10:35.08Xinhuanif you want IsInRange() to work with some itemid, i would assume the user of the addon would have said item in his inventory yes?
10:35.27Xinhuanif he doesn't have the item in his inventory, why would you want/care about IsInRange() with that item?
10:35.39Xinhuannow if the item is in the inventory, then it will be in the cache
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10:35.41mitch0xin: well, someone hinted at yesterday that IsItemInRange() works even for items that you don't have in the inventory
10:35.54Arrowmasterit shouldnt
10:35.55Xinhuanyes - but that is only if that item is in your cache
10:35.55mitch0that part I'll have to check, of course
10:36.05Xinhuanfor example, if you have linen bandages in your bags, and then you used it all up
10:36.06mitch0xin: that's the point
10:36.09Arrowmastersince bandages dont work if you dont have any
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10:36.11Xinhuanyou will still get correct results
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10:36.33mitch0xin: that's the point
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10:37.03mitch0so, my plan is to 1) make sure the item is in cache somehow, or 2) disable this check if the item is not in the cache (rare occurence, I guess)
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10:37.21mitch0I'd prefer 1) if it can be done reliably
10:37.28Xinhuanare you trying to make some proximity meter thingy for boss mods?
10:37.34mitch0no
10:37.40mitch0I'm writing LibRangeCheck
10:37.59Xinhuandoesn't one already exist?
10:38.03mitch0and first aid has a 15" range, which I couldn't/didn't check before
10:38.07mitch0yes. that's mine
10:38.18mitch0I'm trying to improve it
10:38.47Lukian15 inch? :D
10:38.51mitch0yard
10:38.59nevcairielin bigwigs we just used the max-lvl bandage and laughed at everyone who didnt have any of those in his bags :P
10:39.15Xinhuanwhat you can do then
10:39.16Xinhuanis just have a table of bandages itemids
10:39.16Xinhuanand check if the user has ANY one of them in his bags
10:39.16Xinhuanand use that one
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10:39.39mitch0xin: if it will work even after he used up his bandages, then yes
10:39.47mitch0if not, then I'll have to forget this
10:39.50Xinhuani'm not 100% sure on that one
10:39.56Xinhuanyou'll have to check yourself
10:40.01mitch0(I definitely don't want to rebuild my tables on every inv change)
10:40.06mitch0yep
10:40.09mitch0will do tonight
10:40.15mitch0now gotta go have some food
10:40.15Xinhuanu dn't have to
10:40.16mitch0&
10:40.24Xinhuanyou can just use GetItemCount()
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10:40.44Xinhuanyou can just use GetItemCount(link[, includebank])
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10:40.51Xinhuanif its 1 or more, you have it in your bags ;p
10:42.46Fisker-hehe
10:42.50Fisker-sylar is emo
10:42.50Fisker->:3
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10:43.17Xinhuanepisode what
10:43.44Fisker-the one today
10:43.45Fisker-04
10:44.31Xinhuani'll have to wait for the torrent
10:45.27nevcairiel75% and counting
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10:45.34Xinhuanon te other hand
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10:45.37Xinhuanhttp://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=heroes
10:45.43Xinhuanits already out so, downloading now lol
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10:47.52EthanCentauraiwhat makes torrents download fast? I've been trying to torrent 1Gb worth of mp3's but after 4 days I only have 300Mb of it :/
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10:49.13selckinlegal ones are fast
10:49.28Arrowmasterlets see its 6:50am right now
10:49.40Arrowmasteri had heros s03e04 downloaded at 10:30pm lastnight
10:50.13Arrowmasterand had to wait until 1am to watch it because i was raiding
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10:51.22Xinhuango google that one ;p
10:51.43Arrowmaster?
10:52.18vithoswhat makes torrents download fast?  the swarm having more available upstream bandwidth than you have available downstream bandwidth
10:53.08Arrowmasterand you having available upstream bandwidth to not get snubed by all the peers
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10:55.05EthanCentaurailol 2 seeds 31 peers :/
10:55.17sb|workmeh - need access to my home-pc to start torrent :p
10:55.24Fisker-plottwist!
10:56.06ArrowmasterEthanCentaurai: on that music torrent? yeah your not going to get much speed from that unless one of them is on a powerful connection
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10:56.24EthanCentauraiI can't tell what the upstream/downstream bandwidth is either
10:56.52Xinhuanhmm 30 kb/sec down
10:56.52Xinhuannot too good
10:56.57Xinhuani'm uploading faster than that lol
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10:57.23AntiarcLocBot: Where in the world is Kody Sandiago?
10:57.25Xinhuandamn leechers
10:57.25LocBotAntiarc: Kody is in Garden Grove, CA, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3E4V)
10:57.25EthanCentaurai130 b/s down, 0 b/s up for me
10:57.32Arrowmaster(00:18:16 326 KB/Sec)
10:57.45Arrowmaster326 KB/s over 18 minutes
10:58.00Arrowmasterlike 8 hours ago when i downloaded it =D
10:58.23Xinhuanyeah singapore connections connecting to 100 US peers isn't too good for torrent speeds
10:58.46Arrowmasteri never said i torrented it
10:59.27Xinhuani don't have rapidshare either ;p
10:59.32Xinhuancould get it at 1.2 mb/sec if i had
10:59.45EthanCentauraiI'll probably give up at this rate... all my seeds have dropped off and I've downed 24kb in 3 hours
11:00.03Arrowmasterfuck rapidshare
11:00.17Arrowmasteri got it from and xdcc bot
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11:02.10sb|workmh - 1.8mb/s
11:02.42sb|worki wish they fixed that wow downloader not to use your full upstream :/
11:02.55Arrowmasterits not just that
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11:03.08Arrowmasteri think it purposely doesnt try to download at max
11:03.55sb|worksome voice keeps telling me to upgrade my connection from 16mbit to 32mbit :/
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11:04.49selckinwe have datalimits anyway :<:
11:05.22sb|work"we"? :O
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11:05.40selckinpeople in my country!
11:06.05sb|workLocBot: locate selckin
11:06.05LocBotsb|work: I don't know where selckin is from! (Are they cloaked?)
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11:06.38Xinhuannevcairiel
11:06.38Xinhuanstill around?
11:06.53nevcairielalways
11:06.53Xinhuanyou need to add a "search" link somewhere on the forum nav bar
11:07.05nevcairieluse the search box? :p
11:07.10Xinhuanatm, if i want to search the forums and use "advanced search"
11:07.30Xinhuanthe only way i can reach it is by doing the quick search in the top right corner first
11:07.32Xinhuanand then accessing search.php as a direct link from the search results
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11:08.09Zhinjioyay, recipe coloring works. Damn sexy.
11:10.20sb|workscreenshot or didnt happen
11:10.47sb|work(yes, i'am actually bored at work :p)
11:13.07Zhinjiohttp://geo.trippy.org/gallery2/d/2504-1/arl_0048.jpg
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11:20.24AntiarcLocBot: Where did Higdur come from?
11:20.25LocBotAntiarc: Higdur is in Uppsala, 21, Sweden (Map: http://is.gd/3E8G)
11:20.58[SW]Dodgelol Antiarc^^
11:21.24AntiarcLocBot: Who the heck is [SW]Dodge?
11:21.24LocBotAntiarc: [SW]Dodge is in Schermbeck, 07, Germany (Map: http://is.gd/3DSy)
11:21.28Higdurhaha
11:21.39Higdurcool stuff
11:21.53[SW]DodgeLocBot: Where the fuck is Antiarc from?
11:21.53LocBot[SW]Dodge: Antiarc is in Scottsdale, AZ, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3DPb)
11:21.57[SW]Dodgelol :D
11:22.00Antiarc:D
11:22.02HigdurAntiarc: where does it get it's info?
11:22.12AntiarcMaxmind's free geolocation DB
11:22.18[SW]DodgeHigdur: It knows the info!
11:22.28AntiarcIt's RIGHT BEHIND YOU!
11:22.40Higdur:o
11:22.52ArrowmasterLocBot: Where did Antiarc buy that aweful looking dress he was wearing earlyer today?
11:22.53LocBotArrowmaster: Antiarc is in Scottsdale, AZ, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3DPb)
11:22.53Higdurbig brother listens
11:23.11[SW]Dodgelol
11:23.24AntiarcI now have locbot logging location data on an hourly granularity level
11:23.40AntiarcSo I'll be able to look at the channel over time and see where the majority of discussion comes from at any given hour
11:23.48*** join/#wowace irenias (n=Alex_Zis@p54A24119.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
11:23.49Higdurso it reads the position from the IP address?
11:23.51Antiarcyeah
11:23.55AntiarcFor example
11:24.00AntiarcLocBot: Where is irenias?
11:24.01LocBotAntiarc: irenias is in Stuttgart, 01, Germany (Map: http://is.gd/3DXJ)
11:24.16Higdurwhat's the number?
11:24.38AntiarcIt's "region" - state in the US, not sure what it means outside the US
11:24.44*** part/#wowace irenias (n=Alex_Zis@p54A24119.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
11:24.52AntiarcI think I scared him off.
11:24.52Pneumatusits County in the UK
11:24.57Higdurok
11:25.05Higdurthought it was age first :)
11:25.12Higdursince it coincided for me :)
11:25.15AntiarcHahah
11:25.19AntiarcIf I could do that it would be -awesome-
11:25.25Higduridd
11:25.36Pneumatusmaxmind geoip gives a region code, and a region name though
11:25.47Pneumatusim guessing the region code isnt much use outside of US
11:25.51AntiarcOooh
11:25.56AntiarcI'll bet that's it.
11:26.05Pneumatushowever, it COULD be postcode in the UK
11:26.26Higdurnothing like that in sweden
11:26.39Higdurcould be a number for the region I guess
11:26.51Higdurbut no idea how it's numbered then :)
11:27.07AntiarcWell, the API I'm using, at any rate, doesn't return a useful region beyond the code
11:27.20Pneumatusin the UK, out postcodes are prefixed with letter/number combo that describes a more accurate part of the county
11:27.38Pneumatusso for UK at least it could be that
11:27.53Higdurours do too, but that number was not it :)
11:28.12PneumatusLocBot: where am i?
11:28.12LocBotI don't know who that is, Pneumatus. Are they in this channel?
11:28.20PneumatusLocBot: where is Pneumatus?
11:28.21LocBotPneumatus: I don't know where Pneumatus is from! (Are they cloaked?)
11:28.25Pneumatusoh yeh
11:28.26Higdurpostal codes for Uppsala start with 75
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11:28.48SunTsuLocBot: Where is SunTsu?
11:28.51LocBotSunTsu: I don't know where SunTsu is from!
11:29.00SunTsuI like that bot already ;)
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11:30.03PneumatusLocBot: where is Pneu?
11:30.09LocBotPneumatus: Pneu is in London, H9, United Kingdom (Map: http://is.gd/3DSE)
11:30.29Pneumatuswell H9 isnt a london postcode anyway
11:30.31Pneumatusso that rules that out
11:31.26AntiarcSunTsu: Aha. It's because you have an ipv6 address!
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11:31.50SunTsuAntiarc: That was my hope ;)
11:32.09Adirelle|worklocbot: where is adirelle
11:32.55Pneumatusif the bot was working on IPv6 it would probably say you were from TX
11:33.14AntiarcLocBot: Where is Adirelle|work?
11:33.15LocBotAntiarc: Adirelle|work is in Villeurbanne, B9, France (Map: http://is.gd/3Eag)
11:33.29XinhuanLocBot: where is 202.42.83.162
11:33.30LocBotXinhuan: 202.42.83.162 is in Singapore, 00, Singapore (Map: http://is.gd/3Eah)
11:33.39Xinhuanlol
11:33.45Xinhuanit can't tell WHERE in singapore
11:33.54Xinhuanso the best it could do is "00"
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11:34.40Pneumatusits rarely going to be more accurate than your datacenter's address
11:34.51Adirelle|workimpressive (and scary), it's about 1km from where I actually live
11:35.43Xinhuanif u followed the link
11:35.44AntiarcFor cable, it's going to be accurate down to the neighborhood hub, I've found
11:35.48Xinhuanfor that singapore one
11:35.49AntiarcDialup is going to be way off
11:35.59Xinhuanit just pointed it straight in the middle of a road
11:36.21Xinhuanin fact, its at a crossroad junction
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11:36.49Xinhuananyhow, that location is the center of singapore
11:36.53PneumatusDSL it seems to be miles off as well
11:37.20Pneumatusmine reported the other side of the country, at least
11:37.32Adirelle|workI think it is related to the DSLAM
11:37.57Pneumatusthe address it gave was about 300 miles from my DSLAM
11:38.10Adirelle|workhe
11:38.18Pneumatusit gave the address of my ISPs data center
11:38.19Adirelle|work~lart LocBot
11:38.19purlblames LocBot for all the evil in the world
11:38.31Antiarc:(
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11:39.01Adirelle|work~last Antiarc
11:39.03Adirelle|workjust because
11:39.36ZyndromeLocBot, LocBot, yeeep yeeep yeep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep yep
11:39.36Pneumatuslast?!
11:39.36Adirelle|workyeah, last !
11:39.36Adirelle|workerm
11:39.36Adirelle|work~lart Antiarc
11:39.36purlsends a legion of lawyers after Antiarc's head
11:39.36Antiarc:(
11:39.36[Ammo]~cthun
11:39.37purl*** Incoming tentacle rape party! Pleasure! ***
11:39.41Antiarchaha
11:39.45Adirelle|work^^
11:39.49[Ammo]:)
11:39.52Higdur:)
11:40.08AntiarcI need to put a sweet web UI on this log DB
11:40.43Pneumatuscharacter copies on the beta realms seriously shouldnt be averaging 8 days atm :<
11:40.58Antiarchttp://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060923202508AAKhUd3
11:40.58Pneumatussuch failure... i want to see how close i am to the loremaster achievement now
11:41.04nevcairielheh
11:41.17nevcairieli stopped trying to do loremaster until i get low-lvl quest tracking
11:41.54selckini'm at 700/700 682/730, and cant find a single quest
11:42.03Antiarchttp://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/new-in-labs-stop-sending-mail-you-later.html?foo
11:42.08Antiarc....uh.
11:42.24sb|workLocBot: locate 78.42.200.228
11:42.24LocBotsb|work: 78.42.200.228 is in Stuttgart, 01, Germany (Map: http://is.gd/3DXJ)
11:42.27sb|workmh 01...
11:42.50SunTsuLocBot: locate 127.0.0.1
11:42.51LocBotSunTsu: I don't know where 127.0.0.1 is from!
11:42.56nevcairielAntiarc awesome, haha
11:43.18sb|workyup Antiarc, evil :p
11:43.49StanzillaLocBot: Where is Stanzilla?
11:43.50LocBotStanzilla: Stanzilla is in Hermsdorf, 15, Germany (Map: http://is.gd/3EbC)
11:44.17Stanzillanot even close lol
11:44.58ZyndromeLocBot: Where is Wally?
11:44.59ZhinjioStanzilla: !!
11:45.15SunTsuLocBot: Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego?
11:45.15LocBotI don't know who that is, SunTsu. Are they in this channel?
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11:45.21StanzillaZhinjio: !!
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11:47.11sb|workwtf is hermsdorf? :p
11:47.26kilroggLocBot: Where is kilrogg?
11:47.27LocBotkilrogg: kilrogg is in Mülheim, 07, Germany (Map: http://is.gd/3Ec0)
11:47.28sb|workwell - depends on your isp also :)
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11:47.45nevcairielwonder what that number is supposed to mean
11:48.05kilrogghmm, only 260 miles off .. nice
11:48.20Stanzilla383km here .P
11:48.56kilroggis that number alwasy the same for a location ?
11:49.27Arrowmasterits a region number
11:50.54sb|worklocation its fine for me
11:51.02sb|works/its/is/
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11:52.15sb|workbut it really depends on your ISP - i have some local isp, so host prefixes/eintries are more accurate
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11:54.29ElkanoZhinjio: ping
11:54.57Higdurmine was within a km or so
11:55.05Higdurwhere is Higdur
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11:55.13sb|workyup, same here :p
11:55.18sb|workLocBot: locate Higdur
11:55.20sb|workhohc
11:55.24sb|workoh :)
11:55.24AntiarcI just rebooted it >_>
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11:55.40AntiarcFixed the problem where it'd eat "where is" requests for non-existant people
11:55.42Elkanoor rather... Ackis - ping
11:55.49AntiarcLocBot: locate Higdur
11:55.50LocBotI don't know who that is, Antiarc. Are they in this channel?
11:55.57AntiarcOh, he left >_>
11:56.12AntiarcLocBot where antiarc
11:56.15LocBotAntiarc: Antiarc is in Scottsdale, AZ, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3EdI)
11:56.18AntiarcWoo.
11:57.47_neuron_who/how do I nag about not being able to login to curse/the forums with my old working account?
11:57.57Arrowmasternobody
11:58.04Arrowmasterbecause you need a curse account
11:58.32_neuron_well I used reset password on curseforge, it took about 20 minutes to send me password reset instructions and a new password
11:58.41_neuron_saying you can login with username/email + password, which I can't
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11:58.56Arrowmasterold curse account?
11:59.08_neuron_no clue, could be ancient, I did have it registered to my email though
11:59.23_neuron_tried to sign up to curse, couldn't as my email was in use ;)
12:00.15_neuron_gah I hate this, why curse, so many free places that would host it, like google code for example
12:00.25Arrowmasterno they wouldnt
12:00.35_neuron_why?
12:00.59Arrowmasterbecause we would have zero control over it?
12:01.27_neuron_use svn externals from wowace.com to link to their system?  As it is now I'm a developer with zero control over my software
12:01.31_neuron_I dont think that's any better
12:01.38sylvanaarLocBot where sylvanaar
12:01.39LocBotsylvanaar: I don't know where sylvanaar is from! (Are they cloaked?)
12:01.48sylvanaar;)
12:01.51_neuron_if anything I'd say your alienating a lot of developers by pushing them into a system without even notification
12:01.57Arrowmasterand i bet google would think something was up when a single project tried to add hundreds of accounts to its access list
12:02.09Arrowmasterthere was notification
12:02.11Arrowmasterlots
12:02.12_neuron_yeah I know, you need one email to them to get permission to host massive projects there
12:02.32Arrowmasterand we didnt want it to be a single repo anymore
12:02.55_neuron_well even easier then, have all of them make their own project page, and link to that from one system
12:03.03Arrowmasterplus most of the bandwidth was from files.wowace.com
12:03.23Arrowmasterso go use googlecode if you want to
12:03.52_neuron_yeah I've seen that "so move your code" argument, but now my project is "official" on curse, AND all the libraries are there
12:03.52Arrowmasteroh and plus google only accepts certain opensource licenses
12:04.15Arrowmasterdo you not want your project 'officially' on curse?
12:04.20Arrowmasteri can easyly delete it for you
12:04.24sylvanaarits going to be a turbulent few weeks (months). I can tell
12:04.50Arrowmasterthen you can goto googlecode or whereever else you decide to
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12:05.31_neuron_yeah but you might have license problems going to curse aswell, hell a friend of mine I know atleast has in his license "do not redistribute on curse", because he doesn't like all the random people packing down his stuff and putting ancient versions on curse
12:05.58Xinhuansylvanaar, how about you get curse to pay you $5000 to write an updater for them :)))))
12:06.11Xinhuanor whatever value an updater is worth HEHE
12:06.22_neuron_in either case, how do the developers get admin access to their own projects?
12:06.28Arrowmasteryou ask
12:06.33dafirei also dislike that any addon that has his first beta is automaticly pushed to the release site
12:06.34sylvanaarlol 1500 man hours (of my time) went into WAU
12:06.45Arrowmasterand link me the project and tell me your curse account
12:06.55_neuron_well, I still can't login to my curse account :P
12:07.28sylvanaarthat is worth...um....at least $75,000 at my current consulting rate
12:08.01Xinhuani bet 100 hours of your time would produce a better client than CC ;p
12:08.26Arrowmasterand that license issue of your friends isnt an issue, since the copyright owner doesnt have to follow the licesnse and also you give curse the right to redistribute it as long as its listed on curse when you create the project
12:08.26nevcairiel1500 hours sound like too much for what WAU did
12:08.26nevcairielimho
12:08.29sylvanaarupdaters are suprisingly hard to get right
12:08.46Xinhuanit doesn't have to be right 100% of the time, just 95% is fine
12:08.59Xinhuanright now, the CC is right only 50% of the time
12:09.11phyberhow long does it take tagged addons to get to curse?  I tagged v1.1 of XPBarNone a day or two ago and they still show v1.0 there.
12:09.14nevcairielthe next release will fix more of that
12:09.19nevcairielwonder when they'll get it out
12:09.26nevcairielit was rumored for yesterday all ready..
12:09.34Xinhuanit updates addons to older versions, can't tell release form beta versions, can't do disembedding or unpackaging, matches wrong addons
12:09.37Arrowmasteri think they might still have syndication disabled due to bugs on curses side
12:09.47Xinhuanand also installs a curse addon without asking
12:10.01ArrowmasterXinhuan: there is no such thing as unpackaging for it to do
12:10.10Arrowmasterthe packager script does it
12:10.13dafirei was tired of waiting.. my script updates everything again now .9 i even can set alpha/beta/release for individual addons
12:10.18nevcairielthere is no way it can detect if a addon you installed by yourself is "newer"
12:10.18Xinhuanwell i suppose you are right for that one
12:10.31kilroggwell .. it could ask if unsure
12:10.33Xinhuanif it can't detect, then it should ask :)
12:10.36Arrowmasterit did
12:10.43Arrowmasterpeople complained that it asked too much
12:10.44nevcairielask for every addon? you would be annoyed so quick
12:10.52waallenit doesn't fetch information like version/author/tag if the addon hasn't been installed through CC for me
12:10.53dafirenevcairiel: it actually could
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12:10.59Stanzilladafire: giev script
12:11.22kilroggthat's what options are for ... asking on/off
12:11.47_neuron_anyone got any suggestions on how the hell I can fix login problems on curse btw?  I got the login/email/password but I can't login and I have no clue why.
12:11.55vithosor a listview with a status field instead of asking with a popup dialog
12:11.56nevcairielalso Xinhuan, i do not count disembedding as a functional requirement for a working updater
12:12.00nevcairielits a bonus, but not required
12:12.07dafiremy update script writes a line into the toc on updating.. so it can notice if i manually installed an addon over an updated one
12:12.23nevcairieldafire: modifying files is evil
12:12.31nevcairieladd an file if you want
12:12.35nevcairielbut modifying is bad
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12:13.18dafirei added a file in the old version .. but i now have an ingame addon that shows the line so i can see when an addon was updated from inside the game :)
12:13.19AntiarcLocBot: Who is in Germany?
12:13.28LocBotAntiarc: eom_rm, dafire, Stanzilla, beutju, coderkatze, copystring, kilrogg, irenias, [SW]Dodge, [dmp] and mseppae
12:13.36vithosadding files is annoying too.  i'd prefer a modified .toc personally :P
12:13.39Stanzillaomg
12:13.42Stanzillatoo many germans
12:13.45XinhuanLocBot: who is in Singapore?
12:13.45LocBotXinhuan: nm|xinhuan
12:13.47[SW]Dodgelol
12:13.47Beutju?
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12:13.56nevcairielalot of those arent even in this channel Antiarc o.O
12:13.59Stanzillaand nev cheats!
12:14.02Antiarc...doh
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12:14.18Xinhuanlol
12:14.22AntiarcLocBot: Who is in Germany?
12:14.23nevcairielof course i cheat
12:14.31LocBotAntiarc: eom_rm, dafire, Stanzilla, beutju, kilrogg, irenias, [SW]Dodge, sb|work and [draco]
12:14.36dafireadding an x-header in toc with some information about the last addon isn't that bad .9
12:14.37XinhuanLocBot: who is in Singapore?
12:14.39LocBotXinhuan: nm|xinhuan
12:14.48XinhuanLocBot: where is nm|xinhuan?
12:14.48LocBotXinhuan: I don't know where nm|xinhuan is from!
12:14.53Xinhuanhahahaha
12:14.54vithosbtw, why not just make WAU access files.wowace.com zips through coralcdn if bandwidth costs were too high?
12:15.07Xinhuandid i just find a bug Antiarc?
12:15.17AntiarcXinhuan: The former hits a DB; the latter tries a whois
12:15.17_neuron_or ask for mirrors, and keep wowace.com as a developer only tree, requiring svn access
12:15.31dafirequestioning irc bots in channels where people discuss stuff is really annoying
12:15.33_neuron_'s got a server on 100mbit doing nothing atm
12:15.33Xinhuani renamed from NM|Xinhuan to Xinhuan
12:15.38Xinhuanabout 3 min ago
12:15.41renchapLocBot: who is in France?
12:15.41LocBotrenchap: adirelle|work
12:15.44nevcairiel_neuron_: mirrors by some random guy get infected by a trojan faster then you know
12:15.45Xinhuanit should have detected that at least?
12:15.47Arrowmaster_neuron_: lol only 100mbit
12:15.56renchapLocBot: where is renchap?
12:15.57LocBotrenchap: I don't know where renchap is from!
12:16.02AntiarcXinhuan: It isn't very smart :P
12:16.03Stanzilladafire: I want your se...script!
12:16.06_neuron_nevcairiel, hence why you have autoupdaters grabbing zips and unpacking, not running anything
12:16.10nevcairiel_neuron_: files was on 1gig and it went down at about 880mbit usage
12:16.12_neuron_Arrowmaster, yes, mirror, as in more than 1
12:16.24Arrowmasterwhich requires loadbalancing
12:16.28_neuron_yes
12:16.36_neuron_you have the mirrors pulling from master every 5 minutes
12:16.39kilroggand with checksums no modified files are unpacked
12:16.41[SW]Dodgeoh noes o.O for some reason wowace svn doesnt like my login anymore :(
12:16.47dafireStanzilla: i won't release that one.. it contains to much shitty code .9
12:17.00Xinhuandodge, give a new pasword
12:17.01nevcairieluse svn checkouts and some simple batch file, imho
12:17.04dafire~weather hvvd
12:17.07Xinhuanin your wowace profile
12:17.11Xinhuansvn password that is
12:17.21vithosor instead/in addition to checksums, digital signatures
12:17.27_neuron_svn checkouts, svn externals and one main page that tracks all sub projects from open hosters would be optimal
12:18.17Arrowmasterexcept like i said
12:18.28Xinhuani wonder if i should update my addons all via svn/git from now on
12:18.29Arrowmastersvn wasnt much of the bandwidth at all
12:18.31[SW]DodgeXinhuan: okay, that works...  but why does my old pw not work anymore?
12:18.48Xinhuanthe import didn't import old svn accounts
12:18.49Arrowmaster[SW]Dodge: because it wasnt copied?
12:19.09Xinhuanthey merely created new accounts based on your author profiles
12:19.12[SW]DodgeArrowmaster: i allready used the nwe repo?
12:19.24Xinhuanyou can checkout without a password
12:19.32Xinhuanjust can't commit
12:19.44Xinhuanat least, for open repos
12:19.46[SW]Dodgei allready commited to new repo.
12:19.50dafirethey will probably change that when people start updating this ways ;)
12:20.20Xinhuanif you can commit to it, then you already have the password working??
12:20.25nevcairielJust give the client a week or so, and it'll run fine
12:21.07[SW]DodgeXinhuan: i commited last 3 days ago, no problem. i wanted to commit 5mins ago, cant login
12:21.29[SW]Dodgei had to change my password on wowace to get it to work :S
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12:21.52Xinhuandunno then ;p
12:21.58AntiarcLocBot: Who do you know in AZ?
12:22.04LocBotAntiarc: Antiarc
12:22.06Antiarc:D
12:22.23dafire~weather hddv
12:22.32Xinhuankicks Repo
12:22.35[SW]Dodgewell it works now so it is ok :P
12:22.37Xinhuandoes Repo respond to anything?
12:22.46XinhuanCIA responds to kicks
12:22.50Xinhuankicks CIA-59
12:22.51CIA-59ow
12:22.52dafire~weather eddv
12:23.04Arrowmaster@project omen
12:23.09RepoArrowmaster: No project found that matches 'omen'
12:23.20Arrowmaster@project omen-threat-meter
12:23.20dafire@project brokegnome
12:23.50Xinhuan@project bankitems
12:23.51Arrowmaster...
12:23.53RepoArrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/omen-threat-meter/. Omen Threat Meter. Game: WoW. Leader: Antiarc. Authors: Nevcairiel, Arrowmaster, anmoch, Xinhuan. Updated: 16 hours ago. Tickets: 1/10
12:23.59RepoXinhuan: No project found that matches 'bankitems'
12:24.01dafirenow its broken
12:24.04nevcairielfunny how that works, but the reporting is broken
12:24.12Xinhuanerr no project??
12:24.16Arrowmasterhey an open ticket
12:24.20dafire@project brokegnome
12:24.25nevcairiel@project bank-items
12:24.25Arrowmasterim gona ignore it and go back to watching anime
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12:24.45GnarfozAckis: does the wotlk-branch of ARL work on live?
12:24.45Xinhuani have to use the new dash system huh
12:24.47Repodafire: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/brokegnome/. BrokerGnome. Game: WoW. Leader: dafire. Updated: 14 hours ago
12:25.27Xinhuanhmm how old is r79986.5
12:25.37Arrowmastermaybe
12:25.41Arrowmaster@project bank items
12:25.44nevcairielXinhuan: doesnt matter
12:25.47nevcairielits about 3.0
12:25.52Reponevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bank-items/. BankItems. Game: WoW. Leader: Xinhuan. Updated: 4 days ago
12:25.54RepoArrowmaster: No project found that matches 'bank'
12:26.07Xinhuanoh
12:26.10Xinhuanyeah ok
12:26.13Xinhuani didn't read the title
12:26.15Xinhuanonly the contents
12:26.23Xinhuan"ThreatClassModuleCore.lua error in 3.0 PTR"
12:26.24Xinhuanlolol
12:26.30nevcairiel@ticket omen-threat-meter 10
12:26.43nevcairieli renamed it to "omen", but someone renamed it back :(
12:26.51nevcairieldamn long name
12:26.51Arrowmasternevcairiel: kael did
12:26.51Reponevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/omen-threat-meter/tickets/10-threat-class-module-core-lua-error-in-3-0-ptr/. 10 - ThreatClassModuleCore.lua error in 3.0 PTR. Reported by: Slightshadow. Type: Defect. Updated: 88 seconds ago. Status: Invalid. Priority: Medium. Votes: 0. Comments: 1
12:27.15Arrowmasteruntil they do something about redirects on curse
12:27.16nevcairielshitty curse.com code cant keep up with renames
12:27.25nevcairielyay for new page, i guess
12:27.27nevcairielstill shit :P
12:27.49Xinhuanactually kaelten renamed it back because he was doing a merge
12:27.57nevcairielI merged it before
12:27.59nevcairielhe just renamed it
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12:28.13Xinhuanwell he merged something again after you did and broke the wrath repo
12:28.14nevcairielso curse.com doesnt get confused
12:28.21Xinhuani had to get kaelten to fix the wrath repo
12:28.25Arrowmasterhe just renamed it
12:28.36Arrowmasterthe rename script didnt move clones at the time
12:28.42Xinhuani see
12:28.43Arrowmasterso thats why the wrath one broke
12:28.44Xinhuanwell that sucked
12:29.00Arrowmasterand why dont i have an option to move this ticket to another project
12:29.10Arrowmasterseriously wtb the curseforge layout
12:29.27Xinhuanwhat else does Repo do apart from @project
12:29.33nevcairiel@ticket
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12:29.34nevcairiel:P
12:29.35Reponevcairiel: (ticket <project> <ticket-num> or <game>/<project> <ticket-num>) -- Returns details about the ticket
12:29.39nevcairiel@help
12:29.41Reponevcairiel: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
12:29.47nevcairiel@plugins
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12:30.28selckin@broken
12:30.28Stanzilla@netsplit
12:30.29Xinhuanwell that's not a very useful @help
12:30.29kilrogg@coffee
12:30.29nevcairiel@help project
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12:30.30Xinhuansince it doesn't list what commands are available hehe
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12:30.35nevcairielnow its broken
12:30.38kilrogg:(
12:30.46nevcairiel@project bartender4
12:30.48selckinwhat did i win?
12:30.53Xinhuani still like a kickable CIA
12:30.57Xinhuankicks CIA-59
12:30.57CIA-59ow
12:31.11selckinRepo: botsnack
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12:33.48Repopong
12:33.50Reponevcairiel: (project <project> or <game>/<project>) -- Returns details about the project
12:33.53Reponevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bartender4/. Bartender4. Game: WoW. Leader: Nevcairiel. Updated: 25 hours ago
12:34.38kilroggping of 4 minutes ...
12:34.48nevcairielprobably caused by the netsplits
12:34.56Arrowmasterno
12:35.01Arrowmasterrepo just fails
12:35.18kilroggpity
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12:35.54AntiarcLocBot: botsnack
12:36.02LocBotAntiarc: om nom nom. om nom
12:36.06LocBotI hear someone building diaper changing machine!
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12:39.23Xinhuanthat's a super long ping-pong from Repo
12:41.10Xinhuan"The dual-spec feature will shine more light on talent design (more on that at Blizzcon)"
12:41.19Xinhuanwhoa whoa
12:41.22Xinhuanwhoa
12:41.24sb|workohhhhhh
12:41.24sb|workwtf
12:41.25sb|work:)
12:41.26Xinhuanmore ways to save gold
12:41.26kilroggpity
12:41.28digmousenom nom nom
12:41.31Xinhuanmore inflation
12:41.43sb|workXinhuan: source?
12:41.44nevcairieli wouldnt be surprised if that costs some gold to unlock
12:41.56sb|worki dont care :P
12:41.58sb|workgiev
12:42.08sb|workXinhuan: source??? :P
12:42.15AntiarcHonestly, the homogenization of talent specs seems to be at odds with having two swappable specs available
12:42.16Xinhuanhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10638063159&pageNo=1&sid=2000#13
12:42.21Xinhuanlast paragraph
12:43.19Xinhuansee its almost like nobody noticed it in that long blue post
12:43.25nevcairieli noticed
12:43.28sb|workmhhh - could be also something else
12:43.35nevcairielbut i dont scream it in every chan i am in :P
12:43.55sb|workdual-spec = caster + healer in 1 spec
12:44.12Xinhuan"feature" ?
12:44.15sb|workmhhh
12:44.16sb|workright
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12:44.42nevcairielyou dont get both in one spec
12:44.49nevcairielyou probably still need a trainer to switch it
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12:44.58Josh_Borkei hate when i forget to scroll back down
12:45.30kilroggat least some place or nsc ... like a "lexicon of talents"
12:45.56dafirei hope that you can switch it everywhere where you "rest"
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12:48.53Xinhuanthat would be interesting for pvp teams
12:49.03Xinhuanif you could switch between 2 possible pvp specs quickly between games
12:49.21nevcairielyou can already do that now
12:49.26nevcairieljust costs gold
12:49.29Xinhuanyes, but not all that quickly
12:49.35nevcairieltalented
12:49.36nevcairiel:P
12:49.43*** join/#wowace Codayus (i=cody@lilly.csoft.net)
12:49.44[SW]Dodgetalented ftw
12:49.50nevcairielits a matter of running to the trainer
12:49.51Xinhuanit still takes about 1 min to respec with it hehe
12:52.02*** join/#wowace Daemona (n=koaschte@i59F62409.versanet.de)
12:52.16sb|workLocBot: locate Daemona
12:52.17LocBotsb|work: Daemona is in Itzehoe, Germany (Map: http://is.gd/3Eor)
12:52.22sb|workaha!
12:53.10[SW]DodgeLocBot: where does sb|work work?
12:53.11LocBot[SW]Dodge: sb|work is in Ismaning, Germany (Map: http://is.gd/3DXF)
12:53.20[SW]Dodge:D
12:54.15Elkanono tracking me :P
12:54.26sb|work[SW]Dodge: haha :P
12:54.39[SW]DodgeLocBot: tell me where Elkano hides :)
12:54.39LocBot[SW]Dodge: I don't know where Elkano is from! (Are they cloaked?)
12:54.43[SW]Dodge._.
12:54.46dafirewhen is the blizzcon ?
12:54.49Elkano:P
12:54.52nevcairielitzehoe? either thats way off, or Daemona moved :P
12:55.07sb|workbut he is wrong, since its only irssi on my dedicated server :p
12:55.11dafireLocBot: locate dafire
12:55.12LocBotdafire: dafire is in Barsbüttel, Germany (Map: http://is.gd/3Epb)
12:55.22Daemonathats wrong
12:55.22dafirewhere the fuck is barsbüttel
12:55.31sb|workmh itzehoe is ~hamburg isnt it?
12:55.36Arrowmasterclick the link?
12:55.41nevcairielyea sb|work
12:55.46Elkanobut even if I wouldn't be cloaked it would most likely tell me way off ^^
12:56.01Daemonaits nonetheless wrong ..
12:56.05Arrowmasterits been way off for most the germans
12:56.08Daemona... by at least 150km
12:56.18sb|workits still fine for me :P
12:56.31dafireit's 163km of for me
12:57.23dafireohh... blizzcon is this week already .8
12:58.06dafirewonder what else they will surprise us with
12:58.26Daemonaon a side note, assigning locations to dhcp adresses is futile
12:58.50dafiredepends on the provider .9
12:58.50Zhinjioresistance is futile.
12:59.19dafireyou can locate german telekom customers quite good .9
12:59.20Arrowmasteryeah i keep my dhcp addresses for a very very long time
12:59.41Arrowmasteri had one for 2 or 3 years one
12:59.43nevcairielDaemona: they go by your next router hop, not your own ;)
13:00.00dafirejust compiled python26 .. wonder how it'll work out
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13:00.38Daemonanevcairiel i bet my next router hop is somewhere around 10km of my location, as its only another hop into the telia network and i am only 6 hops from blizz servers ;)
13:01.02nevcairielthat doesnt mean you have such a good connection to Antiarc's bot :D
13:01.11Arrowmasterlucky
13:01.15AntiarcMy bot uses a free database, I'll take some inaccuracies >_>
13:01.18Arrowmasteri have the shitist routing ever
13:02.20Daemonaok... my blizz token just told me 654321, how possible is that ...
13:02.35nevcairieli had some other fun numbers
13:02.54AntiarcDaemona: Incredible! That's the same combination I have on my luggage!
13:03.04nevcairielhah
13:03.37Arrowmasterlike everybody else on roadrunner around here gets routed south to some really good timewarner switching point thats really fast but i get sent to hops that go like 2 hours north then an hour east over to the state capital which is slow as fuck
13:03.42AntiarcDaemona: Also, strictly speaking, the odds of that happening are 1 in a million. Literally. :P
13:03.55Arrowmasteri swear i start every fucking raid at 600ms or higher ping
13:04.06Arrowmasterand it goes down to sub 200ms by 1am
13:04.12Daemonasure, but you have to figure in the key sharing algorithm and the chance of hitting the button at the right moment
13:04.13Daemona;)
13:04.19dafirewhen i tweak windows settings i had a ping of 30 or something like that
13:04.48Daemonareminds me of having forgotten to order lower interleave timings for my dsl ...
13:04.56Daemonahaving 58ms in orgrimmar suxx
13:04.58Daemona;)
13:05.05Arrowmastersorry i dont purposely break the tcpip stack
13:05.28AntiarcSo, I found this thing at think geek
13:05.34AntiarcAnd one of my guildmates is getting it for my kid
13:05.35Daemonalink?
13:05.36Daemona;)
13:06.06Antiarchttp://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/kids/5e09/
13:07.17Arrowmasterthinkgeek is great
13:07.22Daemonaoh cute :X
13:07.34sb|workthinkgeek will be great later this year :p
13:08.04Arrowmasteri wore a ties suck tie during a national convention i was at for my school
13:08.36Daemonanothing beats wearing 2+2=5 shirts in math lessons
13:08.37Daemona;)
13:08.39*** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216)
13:08.42Arrowmasterlol
13:08.55Daemona(for extremely large values of 2)
13:09.32Arrowmasteri didnt have any math classes at that school when i started getting stuff from thinkgeek
13:09.34nevcairieli have one of those \o/
13:09.53Arrowmasteri would have just gotten more weird looks at my previous school
13:09.58nevcairielhehe
13:09.59sb|work<3 22 EUR -> 150 EUR change in december, need more thinkgeek stuff then :p
13:10.01Daemonaand another one for theoretical information technology class .... "there are exactly 10 types of people ... those who understand binary and those who dont..."
13:10.09nevcairielI'm at a pure CS university
13:10.34Daemonasb|work explain?
13:10.40Daemonai could use that change ;)
13:10.57Arrowmasterthis was back in highschool for me
13:11.10sb|workDaemona: http://pastey.net/97676
13:11.37nevcairielohh tax changes
13:11.40Daemonaerhm
13:11.45Daemonadid you read the news on heise?
13:11.47Daemonai guess you didnt
13:11.56sb|workuhm
13:11.58sb|workwhy? :O
13:12.30Daemonahttp://www.heise.de/newsticker/Keine-goldenen-Zeiten-fuer-Eigenimporte--/meldung/116958
13:13.08Daemonaits only for customs, not the VAT
13:13.09Daemona;)
13:13.22sb|workmeh :/
13:13.25Gnarfozhugs his 1+1 = 10 shirt
13:13.32Daemonaor whatever "umsatzsteuer" relates to in english ...
13:13.39GnarfozVAT is correct
13:13.41sb|workVAT is fine
13:13.55sb|workmhh - okay, sucks then
13:13.57Arrowmasteri think i really pissed off one of my teachers in highschool when i went up on stage at a state convention to receive an award, and we were all required to be in formal cloths, and i went up there wearing my fucking bigass black leather duster
13:14.03Gnarfozbut getdigital.de for a (really small, in comparison) subset of TG's stuff ;)
13:14.17Gnarfoz~x de en duster
13:14.17nevcairielgetdigital only has crap
13:14.20nevcairielcrappy quality
13:14.27Gnarfozpurl...?
13:14.37nevcairiel~x en de duster
13:14.41Daemonaoh interesting, they changed the ip of eu-destromath and i didnt even notice... seems i havent used my low ping VM for quite some time ^^
13:14.41nevcairiell2bable
13:14.51Gnarfoztell that to purl, that also doesn't make sense :P
13:15.14Arrowmasteryou dont know what a duster is?
13:15.18Gnarfozalso, that's not true about getdigital
13:15.25*** join/#wowace Beutju (n=tus@p57A7806E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
13:15.28nevcairielit is, i have some stuff
13:15.30Gnarfozno I don't that sounds like something you swipe dust away with. ;P
13:15.32nevcairielthe print quality is awful
13:15.35GnarfozI do, too
13:16.03nevcairieland the texts are mostly cheap copies from TG
13:16.05Gnarfozuhm dunno what kind of stuff you got, but mine is on par with 3dsupply and spreadshirt
13:16.07nevcairielnot the original fun
13:16.09Gnarfozyes, they are
13:16.28Gnarfozbut well, unless TG starts a german branch... ^^
13:17.03nevcairielit wouldnt be too bad if it would be possible to not pay the US VAT when you order =P
13:17.05Repo10arl: 03Zhinjio 06wotlk-branch * r919 / (5 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
13:17.06RepoAckisRecipeList:
13:17.07Repo- added tooltip scaling
13:17.09Repo- fixed scaling to be "on the fly"
13:17.13Repo- changed "Close" to "Exit" to match bliz UI
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13:17.29Daemonainteresting how my uplink to telia still suxx... http://pastey.net/97679
13:18.03Gnarfozthat can be shortened to "telia suxx" ;D
13:18.19Daemonanote to myself: contact thinkgeek about a franchise for german/european market.
13:18.30Gnarfozwtb
13:18.48sb|workyup wtb
13:19.04GnarfozI can't imagine that not being quite the business opportunity
13:19.08dafireyou still would pay vat :)
13:19.24nevcairielbut only once, not twice
13:19.38Daemonaor you would pay license fee's and produce local? ;)
13:19.54dafireus prices are without vat ?
13:20.01*** join/#wowace Castigo (n=dylan@host86-168-153-23.range86-168.btcentralplus.com)
13:20.01Gnarfozdepending on state
13:20.06Castigohi guys
13:20.13sb|workhttp://pastey.net/97680 - see Daemona, thats better :p
13:20.17kenlyricwhy the hell do they call it a value added tax?
13:20.25Daemonathe point is they charge you us vat, mail it to germany, charge you customs and add german vat....
13:20.29Daemonatalking about premium eeh?
13:20.32kenlyricsales tax seems more efficient
13:20.38Gnarfoz?
13:20.46Gnarfozit's a tax on the value someone added
13:20.55kenlyricit's a tax on the sale
13:20.58Gnarfozin the chain of sellers and re-sellers
13:21.10Gnarfoza sales tax is something different, as you can clearly see. ;p
13:21.15kenlyricwell no
13:21.15Daemonacable link cheater ! @ sb|work
13:21.19Gnarfozwell yes.
13:21.22kenlyricwe don't have VAT here, so I don't see
13:21.25Gnarfoz:X
13:21.44dafireDaemoen: depending on what it is you don't have to pay customs.. just vat :) i didn't had to pay customs for my ebook reader :)
13:21.56Gnarfozlack of knowledge never stops people from talking about stuff. I am the perfect example! :p
13:22.01nevcairielIn german it even has two names, one would be roughly translated VAT (Mehrwert Steuer), the other would roughly translate to "Sales Tax" (Umsatzsteuer)
13:22.03Daemonabecause it was a "book" and not a tabletop?
13:22.13kenlyricpaying customs is usally wrapped up in the shipping cost.
13:22.35Gnarfoznevcairiel: regardless, they are the same ;> (MwSt is simply colloquial, anyway)
13:22.48dafireit depends on what it is... you don't have to pay customs for pda .. but you have to pay for mp3 player .)
13:22.58kenlyricwhen I was in canada I think they had both
13:23.03kenlyricI never understood what the difference was.
13:23.14Gnarfozfor Germany, there isn't one
13:23.21nevcairielGnarfoz: MwSt is what the customer pays, Umsatzsteuer what the seller pays to the government :D
13:23.26Gnarfozand for Germany also, customs are not wrapped in shipping cost
13:23.35Gnarfoznevcairiel: it is one and the same thing.
13:23.44kenlyricbut the customer always pays both
13:23.44nevcairieli know, but thats how the terms are used
13:23.46Gnarfozand MwSt is not an official tax :>
13:23.56kenlyricoh, now I see
13:24.18kenlyricyeah, I guess there are probably VATs on goods from america, they're just wrapped up in the price.
13:24.22kenlyriclike credit card fees are
13:24.38Castigoguys does anyone of you know by heart on which event does th OnInitialize of Ace addons gets called? ADDON_LOADED?
13:24.46kenlyricit's more a function of telling the buyer that the government is to blame for these high prices
13:25.04Gnarfozactually, I can't grasp how it came to be that the colloquial term is "Mehrwertsteuer" instead of "Umsatzsteuer", the latter seems quite a bit more easy to understand in terms of how the tax comes to be... ;D
13:25.22nevcairieli dunno, but everyone uses the first
13:25.27nevcairielthe customers, that is
13:25.29Gnarfozyeah
13:25.35GnarfozI'm aware ^^
13:25.35kenlyricI think all items should have to be priced based on their actual price
13:25.54Gnarfozin 2.4.3, Blasted Lands mobs still give weapon skill, right?
13:25.58kenlyricyes
13:26.00nevcairielwell its a fixed percentage, so you can easily grasp that :p
13:26.10Zyndromehttp://kotaku.com/5059808/littlebigplanet-can-do-your-math-homework?cpage=9&sort=asc#viewcomments
13:26.15Zyndromewhat ... the .. fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
13:27.38sb|workWTF
13:28.49GnarfozoO_o
13:28.50Gnarfozwtf
13:29.22Castigozyndrome lolz
13:29.29Zyndromequite the contraption
13:29.35Castigognar yes
13:29.51*** join/#wowace cubicool (n=cubicool@router.emperor-sw2.exsbs.net)
13:29.57[SW]Dodgedoesnt tags appear on curse,com?
13:29.58Castigoin 3.0.2 doesn't but they introduced target dummies for that, so doesn't really matter
13:30.12nevcairieltarget dummies dont skill either
13:30.16sb|workyou gain weapon skill by hitting dummies?
13:30.19DaemonaZyndrome jawdropping
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13:30.52Castigothe one in darnassus?
13:31.09Castigoi tought the one in darn gave skill points
13:31.31Castigothey are just dpsometer?
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13:31.59Daemonadpsometer .... i gotta remember that, but yes, not more not les
13:32.54Castigowotlk is bcoming a "whos got it longer" race lately, achievement points, public dpsometer
13:33.06sb|workwhy public?
13:33.17Castigowell they are in a capital
13:33.20Castigou go there and test ur dps
13:33.30Castigomakes it "public" i suppose
13:33.34Castigodrboom is bit more "alone"
13:33.44Castigoand not everyone is aware of him either actually
13:33.48sb|workmhh - public would be "shows dps numbers above its head" :p
13:33.49Daemonahey you know whats great?
13:34.15sb|workuhm - no!?
13:34.23Daemonacopying your shadowpriest alt over to the beta
13:34.28Daemonamove him to borean tundra
13:34.34Daemonahaving a mace skill of roughly 150
13:34.44Daemonaand then trying to free the enwebbed victims in the quarry
13:34.47Daemona1
13:34.49Daemona2
13:34.49Daemona1
13:34.51Daemona2
13:34.52Daemona1
13:34.53Daemona4
13:34.55Daemona...
13:34.56nevcairielspells no work?
13:35.06Daemonai didnt try i am just in awe of leveling mace skill
13:35.10nevcairiellol
13:35.11Castigowhy would u want mace skill on a priest is the question :P
13:35.21Castigoachievement?
13:35.25Zyndromeyes
13:35.32kenlyricsimple completion
13:35.46kenlyricI leveled my unarmed skill on my first priest in MC
13:35.49Castigoomg i gotta skill staves on my warr then
13:35.53sb|workbtw mace skill on priest, karazhan 5manning with 1 healer, 3 casters + pally tank sucks :)
13:35.54Daemonaof course i could simply sw:d that web and get a 100% spirit tap -.-
13:35.56Daemonabut hey ;)
13:36.01Daemonamy main is a melee :/
13:36.02kenlyricI have to be careful not train weapon skills I won't use
13:36.22kenlyricI had to break the habit after I trained thrown skill on my hunter
13:36.30Castigoguys seriously does anyone knows on which event is OnInitialize of a ace addon called?
13:36.36kenlyricno way that was ever leveling up
13:36.42Gnarfoz:(
13:36.46GnarfozI think for some reason
13:36.54Gnarfozmy low interleave setting on my DSL is gone
13:37.05GnarfozI was wondering the last few days why my latency had gone up
13:37.24Gnarfozfirst hop is already 41ms
13:37.35Gnarfozso it can't be routing ^^
13:38.18*** join/#wowace topsub (n=josh@97.66.185.250)
13:38.58Castigouhm... i got odd problem
13:39.19Castigoshirikiiii neevaaa
13:39.26Shirik:(
13:39.58AntiarcLocBot: Where is Shirik?
13:39.58LocBotAntiarc: I don't know where Shirik is from! (Are they cloaked?)
13:39.58Shirikowned
13:39.58CastigoLocBot: Where is Antiarc?
13:39.58LocBotCastigo: Antiarc is in Scottsdale, AZ, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3EdI)
13:40.04*** join/#wowace Curses (n=root@c-76-116-19-171.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
13:40.05CastigoLocBot: Where is Castigo?
13:40.08LocBotCastigo: Castigo is in Southampton, United Kingdom (Map: http://is.gd/3EzG)
13:40.14Castigono way
13:40.27Shiriklet me see if I can log in uncloaked
13:40.40ShirikI'm curious to see if it puts me incorrectly in orlando
13:40.42CastigoLocBot: ur ip tracking phail, i am about 400 miles away from that
13:41.15*** join/#wowace Shirik (n=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik)
13:41.15*** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ
13:41.31sb|worktry mode -x
13:41.39sb|work./mode yournick -x
13:41.40AntiarcStill cloaked
13:41.45Shirikcrap
13:41.54nevcairielI dont think you can uncloak while being connected
13:41.59Shirikwhy did it log me in!
13:41.59nevcairieldont auth :p
13:42.01Shirikstop it!
13:42.07sb|worktry -x! :)
13:42.07CastigoLocBot: where is Shirik
13:42.08LocBotCastigo: I don't know where Shirik is from! (Are they cloaked?)
13:42.11nevcairielchange your nick to something you dont own
13:42.15ShirikThat's what I thought I did
13:42.19Shirikbut apparently my client is smarter than me
13:42.24Shiriksb|work, there is no such thing on freenode
13:42.25CastigoLocBot: Where is Woltk?
13:42.26LocBotCastigo: I don't know where Woltk is from!
13:42.32*** join/#wowace Vilkku (n=Vilkku@dsl-tkubras1-ff22c300-143.dhcp.inet.fi)
13:42.47CastigoLocBot: where is Zangarmarsh?
13:42.47LocBotCastigo: I don't know where Zangarmarsh is from!
13:42.51cubicoolIs 22 the largest font size supported by the game engine?
13:43.08*** join/#wowace Sh1r1k (n=skullsho@83.120.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com)
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13:43.17*** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ
13:43.18CastigoCubicool yes, then you can use the "scale" but it kinda screws up
13:43.23nevcairielLocBot, where is Sh1r1k?
13:43.24LocBotnevcairiel: Sh1r1k is in Port Orange, FL, United States (Map: http://is.gd/3EAg)
13:43.28Sh1r1kthere we go
13:43.36Sh1r1keh, closer, but still not right :)
13:43.40*** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ
13:44.32AntiarcLocBot: Who is Shirik?
13:44.33LocBotAntiarc: I don't know where Shirik is from! (Are they cloaked?)
13:44.46Shirikit's about 10 miles off; I'm in Daytona Beach
13:44.47Shirikbut not bad
13:44.52ShirikI expected it to say Orlando
13:45.27Castigowhy do i have to feel so stupid against AceDB ?
13:46.52dafirelol ... german fansite gamona is crying that they did not get a free flight invitation to blizzcon .9
13:49.02Shirik... what?
13:49.16Daemonaoooh poor thing :(
13:49.37Castigodafire i didn't got one either, can i cry out loud too?
13:49.44ShirikYeah really
13:49.48Daemona>:( worldserver down coldarra
13:50.16Castigodaemona i am inside atm
13:50.45Daemonaby the way, sb|work if you need an 8GB usb stick... head over to mediamarkt, those 15euro offer thingies are 10mb write/ 30mb read
13:50.49sb|workINSIDE THE SERVER?
13:50.50Daemonaawesome bang for the buck
13:50.55sb|workmhhhh
13:51.00Castigomhhhh
13:51.01sb|work8gb 15 eur?
13:51.04sb|workthats cool
13:51.05Daemonayup
13:51.11Castigoyes playing ON the server
13:51.18Castigosb i just woke up, beg you pardon
13:51.21Daemonathen you were not @ northrend Castigo stupid
13:51.22sb|work:)
13:51.35sb|workneed usb stick raid 5 then :p
13:51.36Castigodaemon idd i am in terrokar
13:52.14Daemonaand even playing alliance ... major fail ;)
13:53.18Castigowell if you say so ^^
13:53.56Castigoand btw my realm doesn't have horde population at all
13:54.06Castigoand they don't raid anything else than karazhan and gruul
13:54.11Castigoso kinda thank god i am ally
13:54.54Castigoshirik my sweeeeeeeet ^^
13:55.14ShirikSounds like my server
13:55.19Shirikbut we got a server first yesterday
13:55.30sb|workDaemona: i dont need an usb stick, but 15 eur is okay to buy some anyway :p
13:55.35Shiriklet me see if I can find SS
13:55.38sb|workor 2 or 3 ;)
13:56.04Daemonathought the same, got 2, i just plugged one into my dsl router and now i got an 8gb ftp server ;)
13:56.05Pneumatushmm, editing Bejeweled so it produces less than 7 jewels makes for an un-losable game :<
13:57.23Castigoshirik server first on what?
13:57.45nevcairielDaemona: mm that usb stick even sounds fast enough for that vista performance boost thing, i need to get one :)
13:57.50Shirikhttp://images.gammatester.com/pics/156740679b9b4b9e378924ca59b95fb4.jpg
13:57.59sb|workmh so i need 4 sticks
13:58.00Daemonanevcairiel thats a bullshit feature :X
13:58.07nevcairielnot really
13:58.09nevcairielit has it uses
13:58.12nevcairiel*its
13:58.14sb|work1 vista performance boost thingie and 3 to test raid5 :p
13:58.15Daemonaif you have >2gb ram its bs
13:58.30Castigoshirik beta?
13:58.32ShirikBetter: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/89411f73bf6821d428861db8abcccafc.jpg
13:58.35Shirikpsh no
13:58.55SunTsu.o0( I wish somebody would edit Bejeweled so it won't show any dumb status messages in guild chat anymore )
13:58.57Castigowhat boss is that lolz never seen it
13:59.03Shirikc'thun :D
13:59.16CastigoLOLZ
13:59.23Castigonone killed him before now on ur server?
13:59.25ShirikWe were horde first illidan and just about every other T5/T6 boss, but we've decided to wait until wotlk now
13:59.29Shirikso we're doing old world stuff
13:59.32Shirikyeah :D
13:59.39[SW]DodgeSunTsu: turn of the messages to guild chat in settings?
13:59.47nevcairielyou should've waited for 3.0 with the old stuff too, Shirik
13:59.49Castigo:D
13:59.51nevcairielnow you dont get achievements
13:59.54Castigoi am stuck in swp atm
13:59.57SunTsu[SW]Dodge: How do I make OTHER people do that?
13:59.57Castigoon twins
14:00.08[SW]Dodgeah.. ok.. dunno :D
14:00.08Shirikwe'll probably do it again
14:00.13Shirikwhy wait?
14:00.20SunTsu[SW]Dodge: That was my point ;)
14:00.49nevcairielIt doesnt track kills before 3.0, only tracks the kill if you got a item from the boss
14:00.59nevcairielso yeah, you have to do it again :)
14:01.11[SW]DodgeSunTsu : but hey, if they are on 375 they dont spam those massages again ;)
14:01.43Castigonev it tracks if you completed the q to kill the boss too
14:01.45SunTsu[SW]Dodge: Then surely somebody else will start to play it...
14:01.59Daemonaupload that "you cant loose" bewejeled version
14:02.15Shiriknevcairiel: We're just having fun, no intention :)
14:02.20ShirikWe'll probably do it again after 3.0 for achievements
14:02.21Daemonaperhaps i can piss of those idiots in my guild and therefore have them remove the addon if i beat their highscore by 10 times or so
14:02.29sb|worklol Daemona
14:02.41Daemonathere are like 5-10 people playing it
14:02.50sb|workor giev some pastey diff
14:02.53Daemonatry imagine the skillup spam
14:02.54sb|workwould be better than uploading
14:03.00Daemona..
14:03.14Pneumatusi just got 1.8mil, which im fairly sure isnt beatable without cheating :)
14:03.23nevcairielCastigo: sadly cthun didnt have a quest :P
14:03.33nevcairielPneumatus: so you cheated?
14:03.40Pneumatusyup
14:03.47sb|workPneumatus: diff or didnt happen :p
14:04.03Daemonaof course cthun got a quest
14:04.08Daemonathe drop for the necklace
14:04.09Pneumatussearch for math.random(1,7), change to math.random(1,3) or something like that
14:04.10Daemona...
14:04.17Daemonathat should qualify for the kill achievement
14:04.19sb|workPneumatus: thats it?
14:04.29Pneumatusreduce the number of jewels from 7 to 3 and you can never lose :P
14:04.38Pneumatusand you will chain like a mofo
14:04.39sb|workah its jewel-type?
14:04.50sb|workok, cool then :p
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14:06.46Xinhuanwoo finished watching heroes ep4
14:06.50Xinhuanjust gets better and better
14:06.53sb|workshhh!
14:06.58Shane|WorkXinhuan: awesome
14:07.01kenlyricTRIPLETS!
14:07.03kenlyricfucking bad
14:07.04Shane|WorkLOLOL http://www.threepanelsoul.com/view.php?date=2007-03-06
14:07.09kenlyriclike a soap opera
14:07.15Xinhuan2 isn't enough, you see
14:07.18Pneumatusyou will need to edit and reloadui back to 7 jewels to be able to finish the game tho
14:07.26Pneumatuselse you will never be able to lose
14:07.54nevcairielDaemona: not everyone got the damn necklace <.<
14:08.01sb|workwell then just do 4 oder 5
14:08.18Daemonano but you can kill cthung pre-3.0.2 for the achievemnt, just only one per id ;)
14:08.37sb|workyou could also keep some other loot!? ;p
14:08.44Xinhuanwell chtun drops 5 items
14:08.49Xinhuanso 5 ppl can get quest credit
14:08.52Xinhuanper reset
14:08.54nevcairielDaemona: the other loot counts too, just dont throw it away :D
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14:09.00Xinhuan6 if the tentacle drops too
14:09.11StanzillaXinhuan: you need reputation to turn in the husk tho
14:09.12nevcairielbut its easier just to do it next week and get 40 people in
14:09.18StanzillaI only have the husk and no repu :(
14:09.26Xinhuanjust having the husk in your inventory is sufficient
14:09.29Xinhuanto get credit for the kill
14:09.44Xinhuanas there is no other way you could have gotten it - except by kiling cthun
14:09.54nevcairielor sleeping with a GM
14:09.55Pneumatusyeh, just wait till next week and all 40 people in the raid will get the credit when he dies
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14:09.57Pneumatuseznp
14:10.03Daemonatalking about reputation ... anyone here who got more than 35 exalted reputations?
14:10.10Xinhuani have 8/9 T3, i'm missing the ring
14:10.10nevcairielXinhuan and Ackis
14:10.13XinhuanSO I PRAY
14:10.16XinhuanPRAY PRAY PRAY
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14:10.19Xinhuanit drops this coming week
14:10.20*** mode/#wowace [+v Kolie] by ChanServ
14:10.24XinhuanOR I WILL CRY
14:10.25nevcairielXinhuan: there isnt even a achievement for that thing :P
14:10.33Xinhuani just want a complete set :(
14:10.34nevcairieljust wasting inventory space
14:10.37PneumatusDaemona, ive seen screenshots of 39 i think
14:10.40Xinhuanit looks cool
14:10.45StanzillaXinhuan: it was not on the beta
14:10.51Xinhuanyes
14:10.52Arrowmasteryeah never being able to do 40 man naxx sucks
14:10.55Xinhuanthat's why if it doesn't drop this week
14:10.58nevcairielGet the new T7.25 .. looks the same :)
14:10.59XinhuanI WILL CRY
14:11.07Xinhuanassuming they patch it as well this coming week
14:11.18sb|worki think they will patch everything
14:11.21Xinhuanlast 8 naxx, no mage ring ever
14:11.30Xinhuanwhats the chances of that
14:11.36Xinhuanlua> 1-(8/9)^16
14:11.37lua_botXinhuan: 0.84809934699899
14:11.39nevcairielhow many rings drop?
14:11.48Arrowmasterive only ever seen one fight in naxx and that was raz, and with another guild on the server and they didnt even come clsoe to killing him
14:11.49Shirikwrong Xinhuan
14:11.56Shiriklua> (1-8/9)^16
14:11.56lua_botShirik: 5.3965952773543e-16
14:12.01Xinhuanerr right.
14:12.06Xinhuanno
14:12.10Arrowmasteralthough ive also 'seen' patchwerk
14:12.12Shirikwhat are you trying to do?
14:12.27Xinhuanfigure out chance of ring NOT dropping 8 naxx in a row (which is 16 rings)
14:12.34nevcairiel9 possible rings, 1 can drop, 8 trys?
14:12.36Arrowmasterpulling patchwerk in a brand new instance solo with an eye of kilrogg was fucking epic
14:12.40Xinhuanlua> (8/9)^16
14:12.40lua_botXinhuan: 0.15190065300101
14:12.42nevcairielah 2 can drop
14:12.45Xinhuan15.2%
14:12.51Shirikok wait, what's the chance of a ring dropping?
14:12.53Shirikit always drops?
14:12.58nevcairiel2 always drop
14:13.00Xinhuan2 rings always drops, but its class specific
14:13.02Shirikok, and you want yours
14:13.04Xinhuanand there's 9 classes
14:13.05Shirikso only 1 is yours
14:13.10Xinhuanyeah
14:13.15nevcairiel9 possible rings, 16 draws
14:13.15Shirikso P(myring) = 1/9
14:13.20Xinhuanso in the past 8 naxx runs, 0 mage rings have dropped
14:13.31kenlyriccry me a river
14:13.33Xinhuan15.2% chance of that heppning
14:13.36Xinhuanand its happening :(
14:13.37kenlyricwhen you get to 100, come back to me
14:13.38ShirikP(myring) u P(myring) = P(myring)+P(myring)-P(myring n myring)
14:14.11Xinhuani don't think my math is wrong ~_~
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14:14.26kenlyric<PROTECTED>
14:14.47Xinhuanwhich dragon drops healer trinkets?
14:14.57Shiriklua> p = 1/9; p2 = p + p - (p*p); --[[ 8 tries ]] return 1-(1 - p2)^8
14:14.57lua_botShirik: 0.84809934699899
14:14.58kenlyricBWL three dragons, and onyxia
14:14.59nevcairielBWL
14:15.11nevcairieli had the onyxia trinket
14:15.12Megalonfiremaw ebonroc and
14:15.13sb|workkenlyric: well http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/10873899411-question-re-barons-mount-beta-droprate.html :p
14:15.14Shiriklua> p = 1/9; p2 = p + p - (p*p); --[[ 8 tries ]] return (1 - p2)^8
14:15.14lua_botShirik: 0.15190065300101
14:15.15Xinhuanoh rejuv gem hehe
14:15.16Repo10dhud2: 03Arcanefoam 06v2-alpha 042.0Alpha * r49 : Tagging as 2.0Alpha.
14:15.16nevcairielbwl dropped once for us
14:15.17Megalonblubgor
14:15.18Xinhuanand the mana regen one
14:15.19Shirikok Xinhuan you win
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14:15.22ShirikI expected it to be much lower
14:15.43Xinhuanlol shirik
14:15.45nevcairiel16 draws out of a pool of 9 isnt _that_ much
14:15.57kenlyricOVER 100 TIMES!
14:16.07nevcairielcan the same ring drop twice?
14:16.10kenlyricthat fucking useless rag trinket dropped every week
14:16.10Stanzillayes
14:16.11Xinhuanyes
14:16.14nevcairielok
14:16.18nevcairielthen yours is correct
14:16.18sb|workkenlyric: go read that bluepost :p
14:16.19Xinhuanin fact it dropped double priest twice
14:16.21kenlyric13 fire damage!
14:16.22ShirikI made that assumption in my calculation
14:16.24Xinhuanand lots of priest rings
14:16.27ShirikXinhuan: Can I join your guild?
14:16.33nevcairiellol
14:16.35Stanzillawe only had one priest ring drop
14:16.36Xinhuanwe even DEed 2 priest rings
14:16.38Stanzillaand I got that one :P
14:16.39ShirikT_T
14:16.40Xinhuanand we brought 6 priests
14:16.41Shirikplease don't say this
14:16.50nevcairielits a T3 ring, what do you care Shirik :P
14:16.53Xinhuanits like the kodo mount
14:17.01Shiriksame reason I have a malchazeen
14:17.04Xinhuanme and my friends add up to about 20 summons daily
14:17.04kenlyricnot that it would have helped me had it dropped
14:17.12Xinhuanwe summon for 10 days straight
14:17.15kenlyricI was always the lowest dkp in the guild
14:17.21Xinhuanand we figured out that the result is HOP HOP
14:17.26XinhuanHOP HOP
14:17.27nevcairieli never got a kodo .. but at least i have the remote, the brewmaid and the ram
14:17.56Xinhuanthe 4 41-badge trinkets drop fairly evenly from our totals
14:18.04nevcairielyeah
14:18.12Xinhuanthen a small chance of dagger/brew trinkets
14:18.17Xinhuanthen even smaller for kodo/ram
14:18.20sb|workmh, need to go home :p
14:18.25kenlyricrng is a cruel mistress
14:18.38Castigosbwork lolz about the mount
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14:19.13Castigonev i organized a party for the kodo farming, fixed 5 ppl with averagely 3 alts each, everyday to give everyone the kodo
14:19.16Castigoday 1 no kodo
14:19.27Xinhuanhey now doing 20 summons a day takes 2 hours, you gotta login, invite, summon, summon boss, kill boss, logout, etc
14:19.31Castigoday 2 1 doesn't show up, replaced with another guildie, kodo drops, the new dude gets it
14:19.44Xinhuan4 out of 5 ppl in my grouped got kodos
14:19.51Castigoday3 the same one doesn't show up, neither the one who dropped the kodo the first day, another one gets in, we drop the kodo he gets it
14:19.57Castigoday4: no kodo
14:20.03Castigoday5: no kodo
14:20.09Castigoday6: sod it
14:20.23Xinhuanw00t share ratio just reached 1, time to stop utorrent
14:20.55Castigoxin 20 summons takes about 1hour if all the alts are parked outside
14:20.57Castigoor if u have a lock
14:21.02Xinhuanwe have a lock
14:21.06Xinhuanit still takes that long
14:21.22Arrowmasterwe had 4 people and whispered random 65-69s and asked them if they wanted to come and then i summoned them directly to the instance, they summoned boss, we gave them trinket then booted them out and found another
14:21.25Xinhuan20 over 2 hours == 10 per hour == 1 per 6 min
14:21.32Arrowmasterand did that till i ran out of shards
14:21.40Arrowmaster1 kodo droped and i got it
14:21.43Xinhuanlogin/logout already takes 1+ min
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14:22.09Xinhuaninvite, summon, summon boss takes another 1 min
14:22.24Xinhuanthen 1-2 min to kill the boss and then you QQ at the loot for another min :D
14:22.27AeyanI killed Coren 5 to 10 times every day, minus 3 or 4 out of the entire Brewfest period, and never saw a kodo.
14:22.28Castigobojah u type slow for 1 min to invite + summon :P
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14:22.43AeyanSaw 6 remotes and lost every roll, heh.
14:22.44Xinhuanwell we're using multiple accounts
14:22.56AeyanAs were we
14:22.56Arrowmasteri never saw a damn remote
14:23.01Xinhuanits more like 4 ppl using 7 accounts ;p
14:23.02AeyanThus the 10 summons in a day
14:23.02Castigoaeyan i got a remote, is awesome
14:23.09Castigoon wipe called you can use it
14:23.13Arrowmasterbastards keep droping it in raids
14:23.13Castigoto save repair bills
14:23.22Castigoarrow lolz i am one of them!
14:23.26Xinhuanis the remote usable in combat?
14:23.38AeyanYes, but it's cancelled if you're hit
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14:23.45Arrowmasterno they drop it while we are waiting for 1 person so we can pull the boss
14:23.46Xinhuanah like a hearthstone
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14:23.51AeyanYeah
14:23.55Xinhuanhence 1 hour cooldown
14:23.56Arrowmasterand the MT goes "NOBODY FUCKING CLICK THAT" on vent
14:24.01Arrowmasterand a fucking hunter clicks it
14:24.09Xinhuanyou should see AV
14:24.18Xinhuansummon food table, put remote on top of it
14:24.23Arrowmasterthen we summon the hunter and he aggros mobs in brd and misses the summon
14:24.24Xinhuan22 ppl leaves AV
14:24.27Xinhuanat the same time
14:24.29Arrowmasterthen we have to summon him again
14:24.29Xinhuanhilarious
14:24.52SunTsuArrowmaster: Just like mage portals. You can even say that you are not conjouring a table, somebody will click ob it for sure...
14:24.53ArrowmasterXinhuan: somebody said they got the remote the first day and had 35 people leave AV
14:25.15SunTsuer "on"
14:25.18Xinhuani call it the "retard filter"
14:25.25Arrowmasterour mages always drop 1 shatt port and 1 stonard port at the end of raids
14:25.30Castigobtw can anyone help me sorting out a retarded problem with AceDB?
14:25.45Xinhuanwhats the problem Castigo?
14:25.50Kaelteng'morning guys
14:25.56Arrowmastersomebody always goes to stonard
14:26.14CastigoXinhuan, my db doesn't get saved to file
14:26.19Xinhuani have a guildie, who always casts an IF portal on top of the IF one in shattrath
14:26.24AeyanMorning, Kaelten
14:26.25Xinhuanthen ppl try to click on it
14:26.33Xinhuanand they go wtf why can't i go IF
14:26.35JY`darnassus portal > stonard portal
14:26.36ArrowmasterCastigo: you need to register the db after ADDON_LOADED fires for your addon
14:27.03XinhuanCastigo: you need to register the db during or after OnInitialize()
14:27.03Castigoarrowmaster yes but then the OnLoad will try to setup the addon won't it?
14:27.13Arrowmasteronload is way too soon
14:27.22Castigoand xin u are lucky, my guildies mages uses exodar + shatt on top of eachother
14:27.34Xinhuani'm talking about in a solo situation
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14:27.47Xinhuanyou just go and cast an IF port on top of the IF shattrath public one
14:27.56Xinhuanand ppl will QQ about why the portal doesn't work
14:28.03Xinhuansince they aren't in your party/raid
14:28.21Castigoarrowmaster and on which function should i start reading the values from the database to configure my addon tho? not Onload clearly
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14:28.38XinhuanCastigo: you need to register the db during or after :OnInitialize() <----
14:28.39ArrowmasterCastigo: you need to register for the ADDON_LOADED event
14:28.48AckisWorkneeds a million people to click on http://ackis.myminicity.com/sec haha
14:28.57ArrowmasterXinhuan: hes probably not using AceAddon if hes using xml and OnLoad
14:29.12Xinhuanif you are using AceAddon, ADDON_LOADED event will cause AceAddon to call your addon's :OnInitialize()
14:29.18Xinhuani.e we mean the same thing
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14:29.41AckisWorkCastigo: did you look at callbacks yesterday?
14:29.49Castigoackis kinda yes :P
14:29.52Xinhuanalso note, if you are not using AceAddon, then you will need to use ADDON_LOADED, with arg1 == your addon name
14:29.54Castigoi got a piece of code for ur addon too
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14:30.41Xinhuanbasically, wow loads your savedvariables from the files just prior to ADDON_LOADED event firing
14:30.50Xinhuanso if you registered for the db before that happens
14:31.00Xinhuanwow will overwrite it when it does load from your savedvariable files
14:31.11Castigouhm.. ok
14:31.15Xinhuani.e youe acedb gets overwritten with a blank one
14:31.20Castigobut then when i should "apply" those settings to my frame?
14:31.30Xinhuanjust do it after ADDON_LOADED
14:32.01CastigoAckis check query, pasted a piece of code for u
14:32.02Xinhuanremember to check for your addon name in the first arg
14:32.04Castigour addon
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14:34.30ZarielKaelten: ping
14:35.25thulpong
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14:39.34orionshockhehe, "Glyph of Drain Soul" - "Occasionally creates an additional soul shard" ... interesting, this must be a leveling glyph
14:40.36Castigotaht's the  glyph of the full bag
14:40.54Arrowmasterraiding glyph
14:41.39p3limforums dead?
14:46.09Facktotumworking for me p3lim
14:46.21p3limodd
14:46.28p3limthe side loads but it errors
14:46.45p3limoh, now it works
14:48.07Facktotump3lim: still using rbuffs?
14:48.08Xinhuanheh i searched the blizzard Ui forums for the word "omen" and it gave me posts with the word "moment"
14:48.30Facktotumtry to use exact match
14:48.31p3limnever used rBuffs
14:48.41p3limrBuffs is actually 'stolen' from my old addon, pBuffs
14:48.45Xinhuanexcept there isn't an exact match option
14:48.50Xinhuanfor searching blizzard forums ;p
14:48.51Facktotumah ok i just see your name in the toc
14:48.56p3limyeah i know
14:49.13p3limhe forked it without asking for permission or anything.
14:49.28p3limI still use pBuffs, which has no memory leaks
14:49.32p3limand debuff coloring
14:49.35Facktotumdidnt know that
14:51.17Facktotumdoes pbuffs sort buffs with longest cooldown listed first
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14:52.49Repo10rating-buster: 037destiny * r171 RatingBuster-Locale-koKR.lua: RatingBuster: koKR Update
14:53.42Shane|WorkAs part of RatingBuster, I've still been having issues with the included TipHookerLib on Beta due to another one of my addons that I haven't hunted down entirely yet.
14:53.49p3limFacktotum: its still based on blizzard's buff/debuff frames
14:54.09p3limand i think you mean duration
14:54.15Facktotumyeah
14:54.19Shane|WorkWhen TipHookerLib goes to iterate over frames to look for the different tooltips to hook, one of them is actually missing a GetObjectType function
14:54.35Facktotumi did try doing that on rbuffs using this code http://ace.pastey.net/97627
14:54.58Facktotumbut still sorting of buffs with duration is not as i want
14:55.39p3limthats just the time text formats
14:55.47p3limhas nothing to do with the order
14:56.01Shane|Workp3lim: do you have pBuffs up on WowInt or svn anywhere? I'm looking for a buff mod for my 3.0 UI
14:56.09p3limneither atm
14:56.17p3limi could upload it to my svn if you want
14:56.43p3limits one of my (few) unofficial addons
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14:57.14p3limgot pBuff, pCore, pDruid and !Bugs
14:57.20Shane|Workgooglecode? i'd gladly take a look at it, I thoroughly enjoy your other work
14:57.26p3limand pMail
14:57.34p3limhttp://home.no/p3lim
14:58.08XinhuanShane, some frame object doesn't have GetObjectType function?
14:58.10FacktotumpTags?
14:58.11p3limmy site, though its nothing special, just eases up linking for my guildies to download some rather small addons ive made for them
14:58.21p3limpTags was discontinued a long time ago
14:58.48AeyanI was gonna hack up ouf_perfect this morning, but I always seem to forget about maintenance days
14:58.54p3limusing Ty's blp change
14:59.05Xinhuansounds like a replaced metatable for that frame
14:59.12p3limfound at http://vranx.com/
14:59.20Shane|WorkXinhuan: yeah, something else that I have is hooking the tooltip in a weird way
14:59.32p3limthough, pTags was a fork of evl_NamePlates
15:01.09Pneumatus!points 1500
15:01.09Xinhuan1500 arena points require 2963(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating.
15:01.22Shane|Workp3lim: does that do stuff to nameplates like Aloft does? I like Aloft but I don't use much of the functionality. I should just hack up something to do the nameplates myself.
15:01.31Pneumatus!rating 1500
15:01.32Xinhuan1500 rating gives 344(5s), 302(3s) and 261(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
15:02.22p3limevl_NamePlates is a good go, but I just wanted to change the looks, not the functions/placements of objects on it
15:02.37Facktotumshane: just modifies the default blizzard nameplates
15:02.51Facktotumwith a more graphical way
15:03.01p3limevl_NamePlates modifies blizzard's nameplates, Aloft replaces them
15:03.12Facktotumhttp://vranx.com/screens/nameplates.jpg
15:03.30Shane|WorkXinhuan: I have to look further, but likely culprits are Bagnon_Tooltips I got as part of Combuctor, seerah's TipTop, or Outfitter. I also have Pawn and tekKompare, but I doubt either of them are causing it.
15:03.44dafireYou don't have permission to access /screens/nameplates.jpg on this server.
15:03.44dafireAdditionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
15:03.46AeyanI use Delsim's nameplate blp's and my little addon that turns them on/off in combat
15:03.49Seerahwhat's wrong?
15:03.50dafirelearn to apache :)
15:03.57AeyanAloft was a lot of fun, but I really didn't use the features
15:04.13ArrowmasterShane|Work: its not Bagnon_Tooltips or tekKompare
15:04.29Facktotumdafire: works fine here
15:05.00Shane|WorkAeyan: I'm more concerned with the textures file size and memory usage, not to mention load-time
15:05.01AeyanWorked for me the first time...
15:06.06AeyanI can't tell you with certainty, but I think a tiny blp replacement would be better than Aloft for that.
15:06.34AeyanOr evl's
15:06.40Xinhuandoes wow recognize .ogg sound files?
15:06.54Shane|WorkYeah, I was just looking at nameplates on Vranx and there are some attractive options
15:08.07Fisker-http://www.webfilehost.com/images/wireless-network.php <-new wlan security
15:08.09Fisker-very nice
15:08.25Shane|Workp3lim: did you put pbuffs up anywhere? I looked at your gcode a few minutes ago and didn't see it
15:08.29dafireXinhuan: no.. since wow uses the directplay api and i don't think that it can play that
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15:08.48p3limyou want me to commit it?
15:09.19SirowIs there a page i can read about WotLk API changes?
15:09.21Xinhuani'm trying to figure out why Omen is registering a .ogg sound file with libsharedmedia
15:09.33Shane|WorkSirow: there's a blizz forum post that seemed pretty good coverage
15:09.35Xinhuanmedia:Register("sound", "Aoogah!", [[Interface\AddOns\Omen\Media\Sounds\aoogah.ogg]])
15:09.48SeerahShane|Work: what was the issue with TipTop?
15:09.49p3limSirow: I belive there some pastey up
15:09.50Arrowmasterwho the fuck added that?
15:09.52Shane|Workp3lim: sure, or send it to me directly, either's fine
15:10.02Xinhuani'm running blame atm to figure it out
15:10.24Shane|WorkSeerah: highly doubt it's actually your addon, but i'm having some tooltip quirks with tiphookerlib as part of ratingbuster on beta
15:10.30p3limgive me a min
15:10.35SeerahTipTop is only the default tip
15:10.46Seerahand I use RatingBuster on beta
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15:11.11dafireXinhuan: maybe wow on mac can do it .. .)
15:11.17Xinhuanappears my blame can't blame it
15:11.27Xinhuanit attributes the entire file to "root"
15:11.28Shane|WorkSeerah: me too, I've got it working now, but one of my mods is hooking the tooltip in a crazy fashion
15:11.32Daemoenmorning all
15:11.33orionshockwhat's the escape code for tab?
15:11.36Xinhuansince the omen merge destroyed all history
15:11.39Vulcanus<PROTECTED>
15:11.43Shane|Workorionshock "\t"?
15:11.47Xinhuani'll have to look at the old svn
15:11.58SeerahShane|Work: what do you mean by crazy?
15:12.07KeshijiHello, I'm a little lost here and I was wondering if someone could enlight my path ;)
15:12.08dafireXinhuan: i think there is oldsvn.wowace.com :)
15:12.18Shane|WorkSeerah: when TipHookerLib goes to iterate over some frames one of them is missing a GetObjectType function
15:12.44KeshijiAnyone? :)
15:12.49Aeyan~asktoask
15:12.50purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
15:12.54Aeyan=)
15:13.08p3limShane|Work: http://code.google.com/p/wow-p3lim/updates/list
15:14.16Shane|Workp3lim: cool, thanks, I'll definitely check it out
15:14.18p3limcrap, faulty commit
15:14.20Xinhuanappears Antiarc commited it, Arrowmaster, on r63194
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15:15.11KeshijiI was checking the projects page in WoWAce and also the Curse's website... and to say the truth I'm confused. There are some addons that say there are new versions and such (I can see the changelogs) but... when I try to download it (hoping it'll be the last version) it just fowards me to an older one or exactly the same one that I have already. :(
15:15.33Xinhuanso does wow support .ogg? lol
15:15.33KeshijiI'm doing something wrong? Or it's the website's fault? :S
15:16.04Shane|Workif anyone wants to help me look for the culprit with that quirky tooltip problem, here's a cgit tree view of my addons http://tinyurl.com/3sfm5s
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15:16.22XinhuanKeshiji - a bug exists where if a branch or clone gets a commit, the "last updated" date gets updated
15:16.29Xinhuaneven though the main trunk didn't get updated
15:16.36AeyanKeshiji: I heard there was an issue that when externals were updated, it was pushing the 'last update' date
15:16.37Xinhuanthat's where all those phantom updates is coming from
15:16.50AeyanAh, what Xinhuan said
15:17.19Shane|Workspecifically, the bug is coming up in http://ssveller.servehttp.com/cgit.cgi/lkaddons/tree/RatingBuster/libs/TipHooker-1.0/TipHooker-1.0.lua line 240
15:17.36Repo10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r15 TestAlpha.lua: Fake commit
15:17.40p3limthere, commited
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15:18.04Repo10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r16 TestAlpha.lua: Fake commit
15:18.07KeshijiEven when the change logs... change? And it pretty much it says "Hey, I made these changes... here and there... but... the file is not available... boo to you!" Even in those situations? :S (Like with Recount)
15:18.40Shane|WorkKeshiji: the download link on a projects page gives you the latest "release" version, unless I'm mistaken. this may be behind the current development version.
15:18.44Xinhuanyes
15:19.13Xinhuansuppose i make a change to the "beta" omen for wrath, its causing the lastupdated date to update for the release live one (i think)
15:19.39KeshijiBut, if I want to download the Beta version... I can't do it... no? Or I can?
15:19.47Xinhuannot from curse
15:19.52Xinhuanonly from wowace
15:20.10Shane|WorkKeshiji: if you visit the wowace project page and click the files link on the navbar, you can get beta and alpha versions there
15:20.18KeshijiAnd where exactly? Because I was checking the wowace one but still... I wasn't able to download the "beta" or "alpha" one.
15:20.31Repo10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r19 TestAlpha.lua: Fake commit
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15:20.38Xinhuanat the top of the navbar
15:20.42Xinhuanclick "repositories"
15:20.52Xinhuanthen at that page, go to the bottom right corner of the page
15:21.00Xinhuanand you see a list of "clones"
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15:21.23Xinhuanfor omen, its called "wrath", click on that, then in the navbar click "files for this repo"
15:21.32Xinhuan(yes its highly unintuitive)
15:21.42Stanzillaagree
15:22.06Shane|Worka more high-profile link to other "branches" or "clones" would be fantastic, maybe on the project frontpage, even
15:22.42KeshijiDammit, haha "This repository has not been cloned. . . yet." (That's what it says for Recount) and still the lastest version that I can download is the 2.4pre3.0c
15:22.47KeshijiI feel so stupid D:!
15:23.36Keshijihttp://www.wowace.com/projects/recount/repositories/mainline/
15:24.11waallenHas anyone that's been using ClassTimer on the beta noticed that it tracks dots/magic effects that belong to other players than the player?
15:24.14Xinhuanwell yeah, recount doesn't have a clone
15:24.22Xinhuanyou're probably after recount2
15:24.37Xinhuanso search for that project instead
15:24.46Stanzillarecount works in the beta
15:24.48Stanzillathe normal one
15:24.51Xinhuanyep
15:24.58Xinhuanit doesn't actually have a branch/clone
15:25.02Xinhuansince its updated to work in both
15:26.27Facktotumwaallen: when you are in a party or raid?
15:26.36KeshijiThe same thing happens with Elkano's BuffBars at the wowace page. It says it was updated at 10/06/2008, when the last file was uploaded the 09/29/2008 and there are no clones as well in the "repository" page. Oh the dilema... D:
15:27.19Xinhuanbasically, look at
15:27.39Xinhuanhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/recount/files/
15:27.45Xinhuanyou'll see alphas, betas and releases
15:27.51Xinhuanon curse, you will only see beta/releases
15:28.03Xinhuanthe alphas are what is causing the silly date to update
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15:28.16KeshijiI see
15:28.40Shane|WorkXinhuan: so it's intended for the date on the Recently Updated Projects page to only reflect the most recent release version?
15:28.49Xinhuani would hope so
15:28.50KeshijiAnother little and silly question. When I download an addon... I should get the libone or the nolib one? I couldn't find documentation on the forums for that one (yes, noob here)
15:29.09waallenFacktotum: no, even when I am alone
15:29.10orionshockKeshiji: are you a power user?
15:29.10Xinhuanif you don't know what a "nolib" version does, dont' get it
15:29.13Shane|WorkKeshiji: definitely the lib version, unless you fancy tracking down dependencies for a while
15:29.23AeyanYeah, stick with the lib version
15:29.31Arrowmasterthat recently updated page reflects any change to the project page, not the repo or just the files
15:29.49KeshijiThanks, heh. :)
15:29.52Aeyannolib is for disembedding (you'll have to identify all the libraries needed and download those manually as well)
15:30.14orionshockArrowmaster / Xinhuan the wowace site should follow any change to the project; but i think we're all saying the same thing that curse should follow the last beta/release file instead.
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15:30.26Xinhuani think ckknight knows
15:30.48ckknighthrm?
15:31.09KeshijiAaah, like add tags here and there in each addon and make them search at a specific location and such no?
15:31.52ShaneSvellerthe regular lib version of an addon should include absolutely everything you need to run it unless it is a module or plugin for another addon
15:32.01Keshijii c :)
15:32.24p3limhttp://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=103648#post103648
15:32.31AeyanNo, disembedding isn't quite that complicated but in general it's just better to go with the lib version
15:32.38AeyanEspecially with Ace3
15:32.56AeyanOoo, names
15:32.57AeyanHmm...
15:33.06KeshijiThanks :)
15:34.42ElkanoKeshiji, yeah, I don't understand it myself... haven't touched it since the merge happend
15:34.52Sirowcool, there wll be GetUnitPitch("unit"), GetUnitSpeed("unit")  in 3.0.2 :D
15:34.57p3limplease reply to that topic, might not answer on IRC at all times
15:35.31KeshijiIt's the voodoo, mon!
15:36.15AeyanWell, I'm not that creative to just pop some out on the spot, heh
15:36.19AeyanEspecially with zero sleep
15:36.39ckknighthey, who had an issue with their default file being the wrong one on wowace?
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15:38.14Facktotumwaaleen: i didnt notice that myself. i have been using classtimer in raids as well
15:38.47ShaneSvellerFacktotum: I'm having a few problems with ClassTimer on Beta
15:39.23ShaneSvellermostly something about attempting to compare a string to a number, don't recall clearly
15:40.14Facktotumno such problems here
15:40.25orionshockhas anyone managed to fix LS KB page?
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15:43.00yoshimo"a character with that name already exists" on login , can anyone tell me how this can be solved?
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15:43.46Pneumatusblimey, havnt seen that error for a while
15:43.54orionshockyoshimo: give it a min or 3 for your toon to logout
15:43.58Pneumatusjust wait till the server boots the toon
15:44.09Pneumatusit used to happen all the time back in the day
15:44.35yoshimothis is coldarra this is betarealm ;) we were doing violet hold but the server didnt allow us to do so ;)
15:46.15Facktotumthats normal
15:46.19Xinhuanyou make another char
15:46.22Xinhuana lvl 1 is fine
15:46.28Xinhuanthen /who your other character
15:46.30Xinhuanuntil it logs out
15:46.32Xinhuan:)
15:47.15Facktotumprobably the server is still down
15:47.45yoshimoit was lagging like hell , so better down than "non working"
15:50.20Maldivia~seen mitch0
15:50.22purlmitch0 is currently on #wowace (1d 4h 43m 25s). Has said a total of 141 messages. Is idling for 5h 10m 7s, last said: 'now gotta go have some food'.
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15:51.46Facktotumhe must have eaten a lot of food
15:52.09Maldiviayeah
15:55.39yoshimoorionshock,  i think it is way more than 3m  . hes still logged in ;)
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15:57.16Facktotumwell the server must be having issues
15:57.48yoshimoas usual ;)
15:58.05yoshimomeanwhile ill play my lvl 1 druid ;)
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15:59.21kadrahilheh my freaking alt key gets stuck on this keyboard
15:59.29kadrahilso i'm sitting here mashing buttons trying to kill this thing
15:59.32kadrahiland wondering why nothing is working
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16:03.55cubicoolWhat's the easiest way to hook into the "toggling" of an ability like Heroic Strike or Maul?
16:04.01cubicoolIs there an event generated for this?
16:04.49cubicoolI'm having trouble toggling it on/off before my swing is up, and I want to make a mod to scold me. (I don't display any buttons in my UI, so I don't want to use that)
16:05.24Facktotumthere is an addon for warriors that helps with that
16:05.31Facktotumaltough i dont remember the name
16:05.36cubicoolbah. :)
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16:06.02kilroggallright, back I am ... anything important regarding addon updaters happened in the meantime ?
16:06.13Facktotumi will ask a guildie hold on
16:07.09XinhuanIsAutoRepeatAction() perhaps?
16:07.23Stanzillavhaarr: I still get BugSack-2.x.x.152\BugSack.lua:374: attempt to call field 'RegisterCallback' (a nil value) even with the latest !BugGrabber
16:08.01Xinhuanor maybe IsCurrentAction()
16:10.23Stanzillavhaarr: and the broker plugin shows "0" as the error count but the tooltip shows the one I pasted
16:11.12thulcubicool: what do you mean?
16:11.16thultimers?
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16:16.43Tornhoofckknight, did you find out what went wrong with the .pkgmeta in tags for yata?
16:16.57ckknightI believe I know the issue
16:17.01ckknightbut I need to look into it
16:17.04ckknightand fix it
16:17.55Tornhoofokidokey
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16:28.41leech2khmm this is lame
16:28.55leech2kjust activated an account for beta but character copy q is full :-(
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16:36.16Facktotumpremades or character copy?
16:38.18Matrix110|I dont get the Curse Client it wont update anything -.-
16:38.30leech2kcharacter copy
16:38.34leech2kpremades work fine :-(
16:39.39Facktotumthen copy a premade of your class
16:39.56Repo10pit-bull: 037destiny * r1740 libs/: PitBull
16:39.57Repo- externals update
16:39.59leech2kya but really want to try out stuff with my gearset
16:40.17Facktotumwhat level of gear do you have?
16:40.28leech2kjust za/badge
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16:40.53Facktotumyou will start replacing as you level up
16:41.13leech2kI know, but plans are to live in 5 mans for first few days
16:41.24leech2kjust want to make sure the tanking gear is decent for that
16:41.28Facktotumwhat for leveling?
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16:41.32leech2kya
16:41.41Facktotumquesting is the best leveling in wotlk
16:41.46fewyn[work]^
16:41.51leech2kit won't be for the first few days :-)
16:42.01Facktotumit will if you play and move on
16:42.06fewyn[work]only reason i will be in dungeons at all the first few days is if northrend is unstable
16:42.13fewyn[work]or doing dungeon quests
16:42.14Facktotumthe higher level areas will be free of people
16:42.23Facktotumyeah dungeon quests as you level up
16:42.26leech2kin tbc there were 20+ people waiting for each spawn on my server
16:42.38leech2knot to mention very constant pvp at each of those spawns
16:42.39Facktotumbut wotlk is not tbc
16:42.42fewyn[work]ally or horde leech2k?
16:42.47leech2kally
16:42.50fewyn[work]goto fjord
16:42.57fewyn[work]it'll be less populated
16:42.58fewyn[work]imho
16:43.07leech2kwhat boat take u there?
16:43.09fewyn[work]everyone knows there's a new harbor in stormwind
16:43.13leech2kya
16:43.13fewyn[work]so they'll goto tundra
16:43.17waallenIs anyone using a working fubar clock addon on the 3.0PTR?
16:43.22fewyn[work]but if you goto methinil
16:43.25fewyn[work]you can goto fjord
16:43.38leech2kah I knew there was another boat jsut didn't know from where :-)
16:43.40fewyn[work]and i personally think there will be less people there
16:44.04fewyn[work]it makes sense to me at least
16:44.09leech2kI agree.
16:44.28leech2kI have only been on the beta a bit and tons of people at tundra.
16:44.35Facktotumyou can go fjord>tundra>dragonblight>grizzly hills>
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16:44.57kenlyricanyone know of any mods that throw a mail notification icon on fubar? they can do more than that.
16:45.01winkilleris it me or is there no category for castbar mods?
16:45.07kenlyricbut the mail notification icon is critical
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16:45.25Facktotumi use lynstats
16:45.37Facktotumgives a graphical text notification
16:45.49fewyn[work]that's what i'm going to do Facktotum
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16:46.18Facktotumi was lvl80 when starting storm peaks
16:46.27Facktotumor almost in the middle of the quests there
16:46.48fewyn[work]they fucked around with xp to level too much for me while leveling
16:46.53fewyn[work]i ended up 80 half way through storm peaks
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16:47.10fewyn[work]i assume i'll hit it at the start or before storm peaks
16:47.29Facktotumyeah
16:47.58Facktotumalso sholazar basin is fast and easy quests
16:48.07fewyn[work]yea
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16:48.16fewyn[work]i really am sad that they changed the cold weather flying
16:48.27Facktotumah yeah i did the quest myself
16:48.32fewyn[work]gold sinks are sad
16:48.35fewyn[work]i did too
16:48.35Facktotumits awesome :)
16:48.37fewyn[work]i enjoyed it
16:48.45fewyn[work]didn't feel it was out of the way or anything
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16:48.50fewyn[work]i was already there for questin
16:49.09leech2kwhat did they change about it?
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16:49.42fewyn[work]they moved it from being a quest to 1000g gold sink
16:49.55leech2kwow...
16:50.00leech2kthey said they weren't going to do that
16:50.08fewyn[work]you'll easily have the gold by then
16:50.22fewyn[work]unless you're an aher
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16:50.28fewyn[work]and spend it all
16:50.29leech2kya, I already have atleast 5k, but still I will probaly blow most that for crafted gear at 80
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16:50.48fewyn[work]i'm still not sure on tailoring
16:50.56fewyn[work]beyond the flying carpet i don't see anything wow worthy
16:51.01leech2ktailoring for priests is already better than t7
16:51.10fewyn[work]maybe i should look again
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16:51.14fewyn[work]i'm a lock tho in wotlk
16:51.26leech2kya for damage its not as good as it was in tbc
16:51.36fewyn[work]they already are nerfing my fsw
16:51.42leech2kcause they are all +spellpower install of spell school
16:51.48AckisWorkheh ude points: Lifetime Points:   82400
16:52.23fewyn[work]nice Ackis
16:52.31fewyn[work]i have like 10k?
16:52.32fewyn[work]i think
16:52.57Tornhoofis it possible to find out which text strings (those referenced in globalstrings.lua) are used in a tooltip?
16:53.13Repo10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r22 TestAlpha.lua: Fake commit
16:53.15AckisWorkanyoneh ere been to a darkmoon faire?
16:53.40fewyn[work]?
16:53.49AckisWorkdarkmoon faire... the wow tcg things
16:53.54fewyn[work]nope
16:53.57leech2kthere goes ck spamming irc again...
16:54.00fewyn[work]i don't actually play the tcg
16:54.07fewyn[work]i collect the cards tho
16:54.13fewyn[work]just like i collect mtg cards
16:54.15AckisWorkI don't play either just collect the cards but there's a faire at blizzcon I was going to check out
16:54.20fewyn[work]ah
16:54.29fewyn[work]maybe i'll get to go to blizzcon next year
16:54.42fewyn[work]i have a real reason to justify going now
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16:54.53leech2kI played a bit, but since sealed formats don't work well I lost interest.
16:54.53AckisWorkheh
16:54.57fewyn[work]besides the whole i want to go reason
16:55.02AckisWorkit looks like I'm done playing wow now so bleh
16:55.16fewyn[work]See I live in Florida
16:55.24fewyn[work]and Cali is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy over there
16:55.35AckisWorkdude I'm Canadian and I'm going :P
16:55.38fewyn[work]kinda hard to justify traveling
16:55.47Repo10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r23 TestAlpha.lua: Fake commit
16:55.54fewyn[work]well good for you =p i don't have that kind of money to spend all the time
16:57.16Repo10test-alpha: 03ckknight 04v1.0-beta * r24 : Tagging as v1.0-beta.
16:59.52Facktotumenchanting and jewelcrafting look really promising for wotlk professions
17:00.04Facktotumi have to get rid of leatherworking
17:00.58Tornhoofbracer leatherworking thingies are awesome
17:01.14fewyn[work]Anyone know of any decent (read: cheap and reliable?) shell hosts that allow eggdrops?
17:01.30Facktotumjust that doesnt justify a good profession thornhoof
17:01.40Tornhoofyeh
17:01.45Facktotumlw mats are evil
17:01.48Tornhoofyeh
17:01.59Facktotumaltough i have a druid alt with skinning
17:03.29Facktotumfewyn[work]: http://www.shellxnet.com/shellhosting.html
17:04.18fewyn[work]you use them Facktotum?
17:04.33Facktotumone of my clients does
17:04.36fewyn[work]ah
17:04.37fewyn[work]cool
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17:04.43fewyn[work]i'll probably order one later then
17:06.43Facktotumanyone played brothers in arms: hell's highway on the 360?
17:07.01Daemoenhey guys, anyone else here running wow on osx happen to have issues with it installing 2.4 - 3.0?
17:07.47Facktotumits best to check wow forums for that kind of problem
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17:11.21Daemoenis 3.0 not official yet?
17:11.42Facktotumits on the PTR
17:11.50dafirenext week
17:12.07Facktotummost are hoping its next week but i am not sure
17:12.23falconindy1Season 4 is ending on the 14th, which is coincidentally next tuesday
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17:13.08leech2kdid they announce the end of s4 already?
17:13.09leech2kcrap
17:13.12Daemoenahh
17:13.25selckinno mount for you
17:13.28dafireif nothing seriosly breaks it will be next week.. they dont mind if some balancing is broken .9
17:13.30Daemoenthat would explain why its not doing anything, never seen them do a prepatch release, but never really paid attention either
17:13.53Facktotumare you waiting on the 3.0 patch to install?
17:13.55Facktotumduh :)
17:14.03NeoTron3.0 in a week
17:14.31DaemoenFacktotum: :p
17:14.45Daemoenbah, they are actually having the realms down the full time today, that sucks
17:14.54dafirehardware upgrades
17:14.57Daemoenahh
17:14.59fewyn[work]proabbly hardware upgrades
17:15.11Daemoenwonder what type of servers they are running :-D
17:15.18fewyn[work]they have a whole new continent and a ton of new dungeons for each and every server
17:15.23fewyn[work]plus a new bg
17:15.37fewyn[work]i'm going to assume something custom and produced just for this Daemoen
17:15.43*** join/#wowace Iboong (n=user@77.87.207.194)
17:15.51dafireno.. they run usual mainstream servers
17:16.04dafirebut every realm is splittet on some of them
17:16.04leech2kI am sure its a very typical setup
17:16.05Daemoenfewyn[work]: you mean new continents and stuff outside of WOTLK or is this the WOTLK additions
17:16.06ckknighthttp://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/695-downloading/
17:16.11Facktotumi wouldnt mind being a network admin for of their servers
17:16.13Daemoenhey ckknight
17:16.17ckknighthey Daemoen
17:16.23fewyn[work]probably servers to factiliate the new wotlk content Daemoen
17:16.26dafirehey ckknight  ::)
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17:16.30leech2kFacktotum: they are hiring often they pay crap
17:16.33fewyn[work]they've been adding new hardware for the last few months
17:16.37Facktotumckknight: rofl
17:17.02Daemoencouple questions for you  Working on mimicing a layout on the forums for pitbull, and alot of the options in pitbull flat out wont work.   threat bar is totally greyed out even when enabled, alot of the icons (player) are greyed, etc
17:17.16Facktotumi sometimes wonder why certain people own a computer
17:17.28fewyn[work]same here
17:17.30fewyn[work]like my dad
17:17.34fewyn[work]i always wonder
17:17.59ckknightDaemoen: go to config mode
17:18.09ckknighthey dafire
17:18.31dafireopening mac mini was not that much fun :)
17:18.56ckknighthrm
17:19.40leech2khttp://www.blizzard.com/us/jobopp/it-netops-tech.html
17:20.03Daemoenckknight: will do when able to :-D
17:20.20Daemoenthe threat bar requires Threat-1.0 right?
17:20.29Facktotumif i lived in the US i would consider that job
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17:21.19leech2kThey are still hiring for their "Next-Gen MMO", any guesses to what that may be? Maybe it will be announced at blizzcon
17:21.21Daemoendamned, irvine is just a bit too far
17:21.37Facktotumaltough night shifts dont sound fun
17:21.40*** join/#wowace wallen (i=wallen@78.134.22.54)
17:21.40selckinWorld of Diablo, wow with new textures
17:21.43StanzillaDaemoen: Threat-2.0
17:21.46dafireireland sounds fun
17:22.15Facktotumhttp://www.blizzard.com/us/jobopp/designer-ui-wow.html
17:22.17leech2kWoW2? with better engine, World of Starcraft?
17:22.29Daemoenyuck, hate starcraft
17:22.47Daemoenk, i do have threat3
17:22.48Daemoenack, 2
17:23.13leech2kThe is rumors they are working on something completely new...but I doubt it.
17:23.26EthanCentauraiWorld of Lost Vikings
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17:23.32selckinEthanCentaurai: i'd buy that!
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17:23.33Facktotumi also doubt something will be announced at blizzcon
17:23.37MrBaerhi everyone.
17:23.40leech2kWorld of Blackthorne?
17:23.42Facktotumthey have 2 pending games at the moment
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17:23.57Daemoenblackthorne?
17:24.02MrBaeris there a way to check whether an library is already loaded and to get instance(s) of it?
17:24.17Daemoenuninstalls all of his addons to start rebuilding his setup
17:24.34ckknightMrBaer: LibStub("LibBlah-1.0", true)
17:24.41ckknightreturns the lib if exists, otherwise nil
17:24.59leech2khttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackthorne an old blizzard game
17:25.13Megalonworld of lost vikings
17:25.14Megalon:<
17:25.16MrBaerckknight
17:25.21MrBaermany thanks. :)
17:25.39fewyn[work]Updated World of Warcraft System Requirements http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10960996582&sid=1
17:25.53MrBaerbtw, is there a running version of pitbull for upcoming 3.0.x?
17:25.53Daemoenhow much of fubar has been ported to the new fubar system
17:26.43leech2khmm my server always comes up last
17:26.47dafirethere is a new fubar system ?
17:26.59Daemoenfubar vs fubar3 i think it was, or was it fubar2
17:28.22EthanCentauraioh great, XP Service Pack 3 is mandatory now? :S
17:28.45leech2ko come on they even brought up the lame rp servers before mine
17:28.45DaemoenEthanCentaurai: yep,and it breaks the hell out of shit too
17:28.54Facktotumservice pack 3 is fine
17:29.06EthanCentauraiService Pack 3 makes my laptop go QQ :(
17:29.06DaemoenFacktotum: like hell it is :p
17:29.07leech2kI have never had issues with xp sp3 on over 200 workstations
17:29.19Facktotumsame here leech2k
17:29.37Daemoenon every single system ive installed it on, it broke updates completely
17:29.41EthanCentauraiah fuck Windows I'm getting a Mac
17:29.41Daemoencant get them at all now
17:29.49Gnarfozit's not like you're not close to what sp3 is if you have sp2 + all updates...
17:30.10Daemoen( and these are actually LEGIT systems...... ironically, the ones that i do have ill keys on are the ones that still update, lol )
17:30.29EthanCentaurai~epic fail Microsoft
17:30.29purlMicrosoft, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Microsoft, you are that epic failure.
17:30.49Daemoenlaughs
17:31.11NeoTronI must say Engineering has an amazingly small number of new items in LK
17:31.29leech2kvista is the new edsel
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17:32.01leech2kfinally my server is up
17:32.04ckknightquestion: should the packager output text files with or without the utf-8 BOM?
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17:32.32Arrowmasterckknight: with whatever they originally had
17:32.36kenlyricxp was a total wasteland of wormfood until SP2
17:33.43EthanCentauraikenlyric: yup, now it's a wasteland of turd :)
17:34.16kenlyricvista got stable a lot faster than XP ever did
17:34.30EthanCentaurailogs off before the pro-Windows fanbase gets him.
17:34.37leech2kvista got stable?
17:34.39Gnarfozxp has been stable for me for more years than vista exists or was in beta :X
17:35.06fewyn[work]vista is fail
17:35.09selckinckknight: most editors don't afaik
17:35.12leech2kyou better tell ms they already gave up and have their new version in alpha :-)
17:35.38dafirei dont like bom because i always forget it when parsing files .9
17:36.41Foggeris there a way to set a custom width for widget elements in AceConfig?
17:36.59ckknightI'm going with if they had it initially, I'm keeping it in
17:37.41selckinif it isn't creating the files, it shouldn't mess with anything
17:38.02ckknightselckin: a preprocessor is run on them.
17:38.30ckknightit's how it does keyword substitutions and the like
17:39.06ulicRepo: ticket curseforge 686
17:39.06Repoulic: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/686-file-attachment-sizes/. 686 - File Attachment sizes. Reported by: ulic. Type: Task. Updated: 4 days ago. Component: Forums. Status: New. Priority: Medium. Votes: +2. Comments: 0
17:39.32ulicckknight: don't know if anyone has seen that or not, only small attachments can be used on the forums.
17:39.41ckknightulic: tell Kaelten
17:39.53ulicok, I'll keep my eyes peeled.
17:40.07Arrowmasterugg i feel like im getting old, ive only been up for 20-24 hours and im already perty tired
17:41.13ckknightulic: (he's online now)
17:41.24FacktotumArrowmaster: you need more grub
17:41.44Arrowmasterthat too, not much to eat around here right now
17:42.34quiescensgo to sleep
17:42.40Arrowmastercant
17:42.46quiescenssleep is good for you
17:42.48Arrowmastergota be somewhere in a few hours
17:42.58quiescensclown will eat you?
17:42.59NeoTronshould have slept a few horus ago then!
17:43.00Daemoenfor eepanels, should you have both eepanels and eepanels2?
17:43.23Arrowmasteri couldnt sleep then!
17:43.40quiescensexcuses
17:43.41falconindy1daemoen: eepanels2 is the next version of eepanels. you only need 1
17:43.53Facktotumyou can also use kgpanels
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17:44.33Arrowmasterjust because its 1:45pm and i would normally be asleep right now....
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17:45.10Repo10talented: 03jerry * r294 / (27 files in 3 directories): Talented: update for 3.0.2 with Ace3
17:45.11selckinkgpannels is next version of eepanels2 isn't it
17:45.49falconindy1Is it? I assumed they were developed in parallel by different authors
17:46.00selckindunno :\
17:46.04SeerahkgPanels is the successor to eePanels
17:46.16Seerah*2
17:46.20selckini win
17:46.22falconindy1fair enough!
17:46.24ulicbut developed by different people.
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17:47.00Seerahbut it is not the next version of eePanels2 ;)
17:47.18ulicexactly
17:47.51leech2kI am going to miss chastise.
17:48.13Repo10links: 03jerry * r96 .pkgmeta: Links: fix pkgmeta
17:48.46AeyanNo more Feedback! Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
17:49.11AeyanNo more Desperate Prayer either, but meh
17:49.16AeyanI get teh plague
17:50.02sztanpetthere will be an instant heal tho, wont there?
17:50.39kenlyricyou can talent desperate prayer, though you won't as shadow.
17:50.44AeyanYou can get desperate prayer from the holy tree now
17:50.47Daemoenhow come cart3 isnt in ace's file repo, would make it much easier
17:50.49AeyanWhere holy nova used to be
17:50.49sztanpetah yea
17:51.13AeyanI'm on a PvP server and it was a great 'oh shit' button
17:51.18AeyanBut oh well.... the plague.
17:51.29NivFreakI'm going to miss r1 holy nova =/
17:51.40NivFreaknow it'll OOM me trying to find rogues
17:51.52AeyanHehe
17:51.59AeyanPerception nerf too
17:52.17Facktotumdont worry rogues will not try to find you anymore
17:52.19AeyanNot a huge fan of that racial but it did have it's moments
17:53.53AeyanAnyway, I lose feedback and desperate prayer and gain holy nova, symbol of hope and devouring plague
17:54.00AeyanFair enough for me
17:54.04NivFreakFacktotum: eh?
17:54.16leech2kdwarf priest gets huge nurfs
17:54.22leech2kthey were a little op before though I guess
17:54.51AeyanI cast Feedback once, to see the graphic
17:54.57AeyanI believe that was it, heh
17:55.15Daemoenanyone know of a way to completely disable the blizzard map?  trying to replace the minimap entirely with cart3
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17:56.00AeyanI think /run MinimapCluster:Hide() will do it
17:56.56ShaneSvellerwith all due respect to those who serve our nation's armed forces in a real fashion, recruiters are frakking scum. I just had one of them knock on my car window while I was on the phone in a Subway parking lot to try to talk to me about signing up.
17:57.27ShaneSvellerI know i look young and compared to many I am, but i'm 3 or 4 years too old to be dazzled with a sign-up bonus and patriotic posters.
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18:01.33leech2krecruiters use to call me all the time
18:01.36Repo10bison: 03Grayal * r17 / (14 files in 1 directory): first complete version
18:01.39leech2kthey even let me drive a hummer
18:01.49leech2kthey were really pushy
18:03.15IndustrialBAM http://www.speedtest.net/result/335208195.png
18:03.30Dashkal(checks to see it wasn't linked here already...) Oh this is funny: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/24/10961146215-kelthuzad-mc--hysteria.html KT self-pwnage
18:03.36fewyn[work]I stopped getting phone calls after I told them how I enjured my leg
18:06.38Matrix110|Industrial you cant beat my awesome score:
18:06.44Matrix110|http://www.speedtest.net/result/335214006.png
18:07.09Industriallulz
18:07.33Matrix110|you got Cable or?
18:07.38Industrialyes
18:07.41Matrix110|giev
18:07.44Industrialtheres a 120 variant too
18:07.45Industrialmeh
18:07.48Industrialwtb glass
18:07.52ShaneSvellerfewyn[work]: corrective lenses and asthma, mild though it may be, will both exclude you also. but they keep forgetting that. I must've talked to every staff member at that office over the last year
18:08.04Matrix110|Well if I would live in a bigger city I could atleast get 50Mbit VDSL but no....
18:08.06Industrialif i could i would, but they arent putting down glass where i live .. YET.
18:08.44Facktotumis there an equivalent of fios in eu yet?
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18:08.54Matrix110|yes
18:09.42Matrix110|its not like the US are champions on infrastructure anyway :P
18:10.06Facktotumi know that
18:10.39Facktotumi live on an island so vdsl is still a long way
18:10.57Matrix110|in Sweden/Norway you can get Fibre in many cities
18:11.08Matrix110|In germany only in 1 or 2 cities
18:11.15Matrix110|dunno about other countries
18:11.18Facktotumyeah sweden was always on top with internet connections
18:11.57AeyanIt's cold up there, I doubt they really want to walk outside.
18:12.21Matrix110|Well having non underground cables eases things up alot
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18:12.53Matrix110|1km of Fibre costs the ISP here 5k € over the ground its less than 1k €
18:12.53Matrix110|fail
18:13.05Repo10bison: 03Grayal * r18 / (7 files in 1 directory): first complete version
18:14.08Daemoenfubar2 is ck's too right?
18:14.22Matrix110|yes
18:14.25Industrialcheck the .toc file
18:14.27Matrix110|but others fix/maintain it
18:14.49Chompersits not fubar version 2, if you're thinking that
18:14.52Facktotumhttp://www.speedtest.net/result/335218600.png
18:15.03Arrowmasterit is fubar version 2
18:15.12Facktotumwith 30Mbit cable
18:15.26Chompersi thought its fubar on ace2
18:15.35Matrix110|did you choose the closest server Facktotum ?
18:15.40Facktotumsweden
18:15.44Arrowmasterits a copy of an older version of fubar
18:15.46Arrowmasterversion 2
18:15.49Facktotumi will do closest
18:15.49Arrowmasterwhich used ace2
18:17.10Daemoenok, so there are three fubars from what im reading, fubar, fubar2, and fubar 3.0
18:17.24Daemoenwhich one on ace is fubar v3 :-D cuz there isnt a fubar3 listed in the files
18:17.30Arrowmasterfubar
18:17.47Daemoenok, so get rid of FuBar 2.0 then.. got it
18:17.51Arrowmasterversion 1 2 and 3 have all been named fubar
18:18.12Facktotumclosest servers kinda suck
18:18.18DaemoenArrowmaster: right, but im looking at the forums and fubar 2 shows up as a seperate listing from fubar
18:18.30Arrowmasterbecause it is now
18:18.38Arrowmasterit wasnt until fubar 3 was made
18:18.42Arrowmasterand people didnt like it
18:18.49Daemoenso fubar == fubar 3,  fubar 2 == fubar 2.0
18:18.53Daemoenthats confusing, lol
18:19.03Arrowmaster@project fubar2
18:19.04RepoArrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/fubar2/. FuBar2. Game: WoW. Leader: wowaceSVN. Updated: 5 days ago
18:19.10Matrix110|Fubar 2.0 is for the Rock haters
18:19.16Arrowmasterlook at that page
18:19.19Daemoenahh
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18:23.19ramozi use it
18:23.22ramozim not a rock hater =(
18:23.58NivFreakthen why use it
18:24.09ramozdont wanna have all the rock libs just for fubar
18:24.26NivFreakit's the only rock addon you use?
18:24.31ramozyeah
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18:25.33kenlyricyou won't get all the rock libs
18:25.43kenlyricyou'll get the rock libs that fubar needs
18:25.49kenlyriclike, talent inspection
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18:26.45ramozwell i get some libs, and fubar 2 works perfectly fine for me
18:26.55Daemoenhrm...
18:27.06Daemoenanyone have any idea how the heck to get rid of the default minimap totally :-D
18:27.16Arrowmasterexcept you can only use older fubarplugin-2.0 plugins
18:27.40ArrowmasterDaemoen: MinimapCluster:Hide()?
18:28.15DaemoenArrowmaster: and where would i do that?
18:28.28Arrowmasterwith /script or in an addon
18:28.28Daemoenim trying to get rid of that one since i plan on using cart3 as my minimap :-D
18:28.45Daemoenperfect :-d
18:28.54Aeyansniffles.
18:28.55Arrowmasterand why the hell would you use cart3 as a minimap? it cant do what the minimap can
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18:30.18Groktarso there's a proposition to amend the state constitution to ban gay marriage on the nov 4 ballot
18:30.33DaemoenArrowmaster: what cant it do that smm can? :p
18:30.38Groktarand my mom is catholic and goes to mass on sunday
18:30.46Daemoenother than act as a plugin button magnet
18:30.47ArrowmasterDaemoen: act like a minimap
18:31.06Daemoensure it can
18:31.10Arrowmasterno it cant
18:31.11Groktarso after mass this past sunday the priest starting ranting on about how he couldn't support the church on gay marriage and that prop 8 was wrong
18:31.18AeyanWell, you can zoom cart3 three all the way down and tell it to follow your character
18:31.22Groktarand then admitted he was gay and cleared out all his shit
18:31.37DaemoenArrowmaster: how so :p
18:31.38Arrowmasterexcept its still not like a minimap
18:31.39sztanpetwas he stoned?
18:31.42Daemoeni use it just fine as a mini map
18:31.44Aeyan-three
18:31.45sztanpetstoned to death i mean
18:31.51Groktarlol
18:31.53Daemoenall i need it for is viewing information, thats it.  nothing more, nothing less
18:32.06Groktardon't think america is quite *that* backward
18:32.08Arrowmasterthe minimap works indoors and in instances
18:32.13Arrowmastercart3 wont
18:32.32DaemoenArrowmaster: true, but then i can just do /script MiniMapCluster:Show()
18:32.38Daemoen:-D
18:33.03Arrowmasteralso whats shown on the minimap changes depending on what elevation you are at
18:33.10Arrowmasterin places
18:33.21Arrowmasterso that stuff above you isnt shown for example
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18:36.34Facktotumblizzcon being broadcasted anywhere this year?
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18:36.52ShaneSvelleron DirectTV somehow, i don't know details
18:37.11Facktotumi've seen that but its there going to be a live feed
18:37.34Arrowmasterthey used to in the past
18:37.44Arrowmasterbut with the directv thing this year it makes you wonder
18:37.48Fisker-not this time though
18:37.55Fisker-money was more important than the european fans
18:37.59Facktotumi will be at blizzcon just getting some info for some friends
18:38.44Fisker-Warcraft Radio will apparently be making radio broadcast though
18:39.33ShaneSvellerGroktar: wow.
18:39.46ShaneSvellersorry, late to the party, had lunch and then fixed a meltdown here at work
18:39.59pirantherIs there a working Ace2 (for development) for the PTR?
18:40.26Matrix110|Its called Ace3
18:40.40pirantherso Ace2 is not going to be updated anymore then?
18:40.50Matrix110|prolly will be but why use old things? :P
18:40.59Arrowmasterace2 works in 3.0
18:41.01pirantherto get other old things working :)
18:41.03Matrix110|especially when you say its for developing
18:41.10Arrowmasterbut if it breaks majorly in the future nobodys going to fix it
18:41.27Daemoenwhat is it that allows you to move the smm?
18:41.34pirantherkk, thx :)
18:43.37CheadsXinhuan any plans to bring Handynotes to wotlk ?
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18:45.29ShaneSvellercheads: they work fine for me
18:45.44ShaneSvellercheads: no new data but they're completely functional
18:45.51leech2kSpeaking of Ace3, thanks to all that worked on it. I converted my mod to Ace3 and it just works in wotlk :-)
18:46.47Worfaaah ... my forum login got renamed ... that explains ... (and i try and try and try ... ) ... took me a view password recovery tries to understand :)
18:47.07CheadsShaneSveller I get an error upon login on fresh install
18:48.05ShaneSvellerCheads: I was running r183 last night on beta with no problems, what version did you get?
18:48.24Cheadsthe version I can find on curse...
18:48.48ShaneSvellercheads: http://www.wowace.com/projects/handynotes/files/
18:49.09ShaneSvellercheads: if you want beta-compatible ace stuff it's better to get it by hand from wowace.com until 3.0 goes live
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18:50.05Cheadshmm wonder why I didn't find that.. but thanks again
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18:56.12XinhuanCheads: handynotes is already updated for wotlk, pending astrolabe library updates
18:56.18Xinhuankagaro did the update fixes
18:57.53Cheadsthanks I somehow managed to use an ancient version
19:00.59Cheadshow about postal?
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19:01.49Xinhuanthere's a patch posted on forums for it, i'll simply apply it on patch day ;p
19:02.12Xinhuanmainly changes to "self" argument passing
19:02.19Cheadsah ok
19:02.23Xinhuanand blizzard renaming a function
19:02.39Xinhuanthey changed a capital V to a small v
19:02.43Xinhuanor something like that
19:03.20Zeksieheh. where?
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19:04.39Xinhuanforgot
19:05.21Daemoenckknight: even with config mode enabled, no information concerning why threat isnt working
19:05.30ckknighthrm
19:05.31ckknightI don't know
19:05.49DaemoenZhinjio had the same issue when he tried to verify for me
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19:09.35Jyggahm i got that add translation double entry error again ... is it possible to load babble twice? or are there some entries spread through more than one lib?
19:09.56Jyggamostly carto notes module
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19:10.30ZeksieYou prolly have two lots of the modules. ie: Cartographer modules in addons folder, AND in cart proper folder
19:10.50Zeksiedelete the ones in Cartographer folder (addons\Cartographer\Cartographer_*)
19:11.01Zeksieif you have them in addons also
19:12.32Daemoenhttp://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=6576&page=55  <--- under the current pitbull, how hard would it be to create the look that belldandy made (izabel quoted it)
19:14.06ShaneSvellerwhat kind of sick joke is the url http://www.wowace.com/projects/o-uf_incoming-heals/
19:14.41ShaneSvellerthat's a terrible identifier for an addon
19:15.36ckknightit's easy for a moderator to change
19:15.59chiperDaemoen: that's not hard at all, I have my unit frames pretty close to that
19:16.19Daemoenchiper: mind exporting it?
19:16.36chiper... isnt that an export directly under the picture?
19:16.44chiper(regardless, I'm not at home)
19:16.48Daemoenyeap, and it doesnt work :-D
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19:17.11Daemoenand i cant even make it 1 stepping through it, lol.  most of the stuff seems to be disabled on my pitbull for some reason
19:17.15selckinwho'e dumb idea was it to replace caps with - anyway
19:17.19Jyggaaokay ... trying that :)
19:17.22chiperah, parts of the export are missing
19:18.21chiperthe most time consuming part would be the texts.  looks like some custom tags there
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19:19.10chiperhey ckknight, any chance putbull could ever get vertical bars?
19:19.18ckknightit already exists, chiper
19:19.20chiperoh?
19:19.46chiperto what extent?  I'd like to eliminate metahud
19:20.31ckknightmove the bar to the left or right instead of the center
19:20.37chipermmm, ok
19:20.39ckknightoption's called "Side", I believe
19:20.48chiperwill have to check that out after work
19:21.13chipernow what about duplicating a frame?  IE, have multiple frames for the player, but with different things on them
19:21.24ckknightno support for that
19:21.28chiperk, thought not
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19:23.51chiperdon't suppose it's easy for me to hack pitbull to add more than one 'player' frame?
19:24.11ckknightit's possible
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19:27.07chiperah, I see how it's done.  not as simple as I had hoped
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19:27.33Mike-N-Govhaarr: Ping
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19:29.05Repo10yata: 03ckknight 06ckknights-clone 04v0.1 * r35 : make v0.1 tag
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19:30.33Matrix110|Forum logins work wonderful
19:30.44Repo10yata: 03ckknight 06ckknights-clone 04v0.1 * r36 : remove v0.1 tag
19:30.46Repo10yata: 03ckknight 06ckknights-clone 04v0.1 * r37 : make v0.1 tag again
19:31.21Groktarbites Repo
19:31.36Matrix110|I deleted Cookies
19:31.41Matrix110|tried 3 different Browsers
19:31.46Matrix110|login doesnt work
19:31.47Matrix110|ffs
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19:32.01Groktarconvinces Repo to devour ckknight's project
19:32.09ckknightlol, Groktar
19:32.43AckisWorkclones ckknight
19:32.56Matrix110|aha awesome I logged in on the vB page 15 times but wasnt logged in but when I press the small Login in the right top edge i get auto logged in
19:32.57Matrix110|fail
19:33.18nevcairielyou are fail :P
19:33.26nevcairielthe vb login page was hidden for a reason
19:33.38Matrix110|It comes up when you press: Post reply
19:33.39Matrix110|or
19:33.43Matrix110|Quote Post
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19:41.36Castigobrb
19:42.03ckknightTornhoof: ping
19:42.27Matrix110|uhm
19:42.37Matrix110|Curseforge theme on wowace suddenly without any reason
19:42.55ckknightgnomes.
19:43.01Matrix110|really weird:P
19:43.06ckknightthat is odd
19:43.09ckknightKaelten: thoughts?
19:43.27KaeltenI know why
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19:44.04ckknightam I right? was it gnomes?
19:44.15ckknightyou know we should've implemented those segregation policies months ago
19:44.25EthanCentauraiall hail our overlord: Kael'ten Sunstrider, lord of the ace'dorei :D
19:44.48Kaelten~lart EthanCentaurai
19:44.48purlinstalls a bad bootloader on EthanCentaurai and turns EthanCentaurai into a brick
19:44.49Kaeltenlol
19:44.59EthanCentaurai:'(
19:45.06ckknightlol
19:45.06Matrix110|~wiki EthanCentaurai
19:45.09Dashkalooo, I like that one
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19:45.45Repo10pitbull_kalecgos: 03Shefki * r25 PitBull_Kalecgos.toc: - Remove a duplicated line from the toc.
19:45.45Repo- Move PitBull_Aura to OptionalDeps so it will work with an embeded PitBull.
19:46.33Fastidemonslaying elixir has GCD?
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19:47.06StanzillaShefki: pitbull threatbar has a wow24 check remaining if you care
19:47.06Kaelten~comfort EthanCentaurai
19:47.30KaeltenNo I disabled all the plugins for a min there
19:47.42ShefkiStanzilla: Okay guess I'll go remove it.
19:47.47Stanzilla:)
19:47.53ulicKaelten: did you by chance see my ticket about the forums only accepting small sized attachments?
19:48.00Kaeltennope
19:48.05Fastiwowhead says n/a, but I can't do anything after it for ~1sec, the ability icons dont do the usual gcd stuff either
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19:48.18ulicticket curseforge 686 I think it is.
19:49.25Fisker-~kiss Kaelten
19:49.36Fisker-purl fails again
19:50.33fewynsomeone do my college algebra homework for me please and thank you
19:51.42Facktotumalgebra was fun in my college days
19:55.26Repo10pit-bull: 03Shefki * r1741 ThreatBar/ThreatBar.lua: - Remove pre-WoW 2.4 compat code.
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19:58.34Groktarhttp://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot100708040137mt4.jpg
19:59.00ShefkiStanzilla: There you go...
19:59.03Groktar29.3k dps!
19:59.20ShefkiSome sort of bug?
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20:00.06Groktaryeah, KT mc'd a tank and activated hysteria
20:00.15Shefkilol
20:00.25Groktarer, mc'd a DK
20:00.34fewynanyone know any decent broker clock plugins?
20:00.42fewynbroker_clock shows in 24hr format
20:00.45fewynand it's getting annoying
20:00.48fewynand server time
20:01.09Groktarwhat's wrong with 24 hour?
20:01.20fewyni don't like the 24 hour clock
20:01.38ShefkiYou could add an option to show in 12 hour format. :)
20:01.52Matrix110|Major worldwide fail
20:02.03fewyni could add one, if i knew how to code in lua Shefki
20:02.36Matrix110|UN should implement metric measurements, 24h timeformat, and 1 date scheme and abandon all the other junk
20:03.04Groktardoes anyone outside of the us not use metric?
20:03.14pentium166yyyy mm dd hh:mm:ss, go go go
20:03.16Groktarloves his inches, yards, and feed
20:03.26CheadsUK?
20:03.27Groktar*feet
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20:03.32Matrix110|Groktar UK
20:03.40Repo10yata: 03Tornhoof 07wotlk * r34 / (3 files in 1 directory): - Options fixed
20:03.41Matrix110|but they use metric aswell
20:03.41Groktaroh wow
20:05.41Repo10pitbull_kalecgos: 03Shefki 04release-26 * r26 : Tag for release.
20:05.53Matrix110|but with the NASA and other scientific institutes using metric systems we can hope for a better less complicated world :D
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20:08.16ckknightTornhoof: um, you here?
20:08.22Tornhoofyes
20:09.26ramozwhats the latest PTR build? 8962?
20:09.37ckknightTornhoof: I fixed the issue with your branch tag not getting externals
20:10.01Tornhoofokay, let's try
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20:11.39Repo10yata: 03Tornhoof 04wotlk-alpha-0.3 * r35 : - Externals test
20:12.37ckknightTornhoof: worked
20:12.42ckknight(you can check http://www.curseforge.com/packager/)
20:13.54Tornhoofalready downloaded the file to check if it works ;)
20:14.37Tornhoofyah works, (not only the packager, but also the result)
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20:14.46Tornhoofthanks for fixing that
20:15.29nevcairielramoz: 9038 if you didnt find out yet =P
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20:19.12Elsiaheya
20:19.54Elsiacurrently getting script warnings using the wowace forum, shall I ticket it? or pastey here?
20:22.07Elsiaok ticket it is ;)
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20:22.56mjcany protadins around? trying to figure out if I should go with the stam meta or the avoidance meta
20:22.59mjchttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Magtheridon&n=Abarirenji
20:24.28ShaneSvelleris it possible to write my addon such that it will automatically reload my UI under a certain condition upon logging in?
20:24.41ShaneSvellerie if something in my SVs is true, ReloadUI()
20:24.59Repo10xperl: 03StingerSoft * r181 / (25 files in 17 directories): XPerl: update ruRU
20:25.07ShaneSvellerright now it's a blocked action, but maybe if i tie it to an event that fires later?
20:27.46Daemoenack... bt4 has alot of work to be done to catch up to its predecessor...
20:27.50Daemoenwhy the rewrite of it anyway
20:28.16nevcairielbecause i wanted it
20:28.38Daemoenyoure the author, or just a demanding user :p
20:28.47nevcairielfigure it out :)
20:28.51nevcairielgoes back to muru
20:29.09Xinhuanfriend's birthday is coming up, he plays wow 100% of the time, doesn't work, is extremely rich (consider him a millionaire), what kind i buy him as a birthday gift?
20:29.11mjcprotadins? bueller?
20:29.32Xinhuancan*
20:29.42NivFreakXinhuan: rocket mount?
20:29.46ShaneSvellerLove?
20:29.48Daemoennevcairiel: any idea when the keybindings will be supported :-D
20:29.49Xinhuani'm not rich
20:29.52NivFreakhehe
20:29.58NivFreakhooker?
20:30.03nevcairielDaemoen: it has keybindings
20:30.07Xinhuanhe's not 16 yet
20:30.12ShaneSvellerDaemoen: what're you talking about? the version i have uses KeyBound
20:30.12NivFreak16 huh?
20:30.17Daemoenhrm....
20:30.22Repo10arl: 03Ackis 06wotlk-branch * r920 / (3 files in 1 directory): Added skill level and faction filtering
20:30.26ramozdoesnt he go to school?
20:30.28Xinhuanhmm well, will be 16
20:30.29NeoTronXinhuan: clearly, nothing
20:30.36Xinhuannope, he's rich enough not to need to go school
20:30.39NivFreakwhat does 16 have to do with anything?
20:30.40ramozthen its a hooker!
20:30.42NeoTroninstead he should buy you something
20:30.46Daemoenhow do you assign them, im used to bt3 where it was all through the keybindings menu
20:30.48ramozmaybe just a stripper
20:30.50Xinhuanso apart from buying something like chocolate
20:30.52genetik-Daemoen: /kb
20:30.53ShaneSvellerXinhuan: 16, and so rich all he does is play wow. you should buy him a hitman. that is, a hit. on him.
20:30.57NeoTronrich enough to be stupid? :P
20:31.24ramozwish i were rich enough to be stupid
20:31.42ElsiaDaemoen: try /kb
20:31.57NivFreakman, more apps need to rotate on my iphone
20:32.00Xinhuansigh
20:32.01Elsiaslaps self. Too late.
20:32.06Daemoen:-D  ty.  nevcairiel sorry, didnt realize how to do that :)
20:32.49ElsiaXinhuan: The idea counts. if he loves paladins, get him something paladin-related for example-.
20:33.12Xinhuanwhat would be paladin related?
20:33.15Xinhuanhe plays a priest anyway
20:33.39Elsiaget him a robe? or a pile of bandages?
20:34.12ElsiaI don't know how your friendship works, but those are things I could give friends of mine to lighten them up and they know that I thought about things they care about
20:34.33Elsiafirst aid kit?
20:34.49Elsiafor shadow priest, an "i melt ze face" t-shirt
20:35.01nuoHepÜÓÃ6ëÈàê
20:35.12Xinhuansuch wow merchandise isn't easy to buy in singapore ;p
20:35.13nuoHepsorry :/
20:35.24Elsiaget one made a a custom print t-shirt?
20:36.06Elsiaself-made stuff are awesome presents. make a movie dvd with the best priest pvp videos all neatly assembled... stuff like that
20:36.42Elsiatake the video 5-manning naxx-40 loatheb ;)
20:36.50Elsia3 priests on that one
20:36.59Xinhuanzzz
20:37.07mjcany tankadins at all? :(
20:37.35Elsiahehe, well I don't know the guy, I'm just throwing out ideas... you know him better, so you have a better shot at making good guesses
20:38.02Xinhuani hope i can think of something more meaningful than chocolate ;p
20:39.00ShefkiElsia: Is there somee reason that if I load in with no data in Recount it shows Test bars until I logout or reload the UI?
20:39.15ElsiaShefki: it really shouldn'
20:39.27Elsiat do that, do you ahve a bugsack/bauderror or something?
20:39.36ShefkiBauderror yeah.
20:39.42Elsiano errors?
20:39.47ShefkiNone.
20:40.01Elsiaweird, what version and what serve (live/ptr/beta)
20:40.03ShefkiI've got RecountFu intalled, wonder if that's causing it.
20:40.05Shefkilive
20:40.17Shefki901 is what it says for a version in the config window.
20:40.20Elsiacould be recountfu. can you try with taht disabled
20:40.30ShefkiYeah will do, didn't think of that.
20:40.35ShefkiIt's been like this for probably two weeks.
20:40.36Elsiatry update. there should be a newer version out
20:40.51Elsianot sure about recountfu, I don't maintain that
20:41.37ShefkiRan CurseClient earlier but that only picks up release versions.
20:42.05Elsiashould be a more recent version than 901 marked as release
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20:43.34ShefkiLooks like it's RecountFu casuing it.
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20:44.43Elsiahmm ok cool, I'll try to figure out what's going on
20:45.11ShefkiTake that back.
20:45.17Elsiaeek
20:45.17ShefkiJust got it to happen without RecountFu loaded.
20:45.25Elsiawhen does it happen?
20:45.55ShefkiUsually when I first start the game if I've got no data.  Like I've reset before I log out (which I typically do)
20:46.16Elsiawhat happens when you clear data?
20:46.20ShefkiNothing.
20:46.25ShefkiJust gray test bars.
20:46.32ShefkiEven when data is collected it doesn't update the display.
20:46.36Elsiathat's odd
20:46.45ShefkiDoing a reloadui fixes the display once there is data.
20:46.58Elsiahmm alright. let me try to reproduce this somehow
20:47.28Elsiaany particular class/locale etc?
20:48.03ShefkiI'm a druid.
20:48.09ShefkiDoesn't seem to matter where I'm at.
20:48.20ShefkienUS if you mean locale as in language.
20:48.58ShefkiAnd I just forced curse client to update the addon, 901 is still the version I have.
20:49.42Elsiacool
20:50.00Elsialets see if I reproduce it. you are using recountfu but not recountthreat or reacountdeathtrack?
20:50.11ShefkiHave neither of those installed.
20:50.23ShefkiAnd I'm able to reproduce without recountfu.
20:50.51Elsiak lets see
20:51.47ShefkiAnd yeah the reason it's still showing as 901 is Recount.lua hasn't changed since 901.
20:52.08Elsiaright
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20:52.56Elsiawhat OS are you on?
20:53.01ShefkiOS X
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20:53.49Elsiait's strange, cannot seem to cause the issue on my windows box. will have acess to osx tomorrow, though haven't seen this before there either.
20:54.04Elsiaso you delete, quit wow and it's borked when you relaunch right?
20:54.20ShefkiYup
20:55.04Elsiadisplay mode is "Damage Done"?
20:55.31ShefkiAlthough it appears it's not 100% that way, since from messing with it sometimes it's behaving sometimes not.
20:55.39ShefkiUsually on Healing Done.
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20:55.53Elsiahmm ok
20:56.35ShefkiLet me see if I can find a reliable way to cause it.
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20:56.49Elsiathat'd be good, can't seem to reproduce it for now
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20:58.22ShefkiTry this:
20:58.33ShefkiReset, do a /rl
20:58.48ShefkiSeems when I log out it behaves.  If I do a /rl it doesn't
20:58.59ShefkiMaybe I forget doign some /rl's from working on my own stuff.
20:59.26Elsialet me try
20:59.52Repo10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles * r65 InventoryOnPar.lua: InventoryOnPar: -
20:59.53Repoversion report format changed.
21:00.19Elsiaworks for me, maybe you have some other addon interfering somehow? can you try just recount all by itself?
21:00.27ShefkiSure.
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21:02.47NeoTronElsia: so I was seeing some weird recount results when testing DPS. Basically when I joined pets to myself, I did less DPS than I should have done. Basically DPS listed was quite a bit less than (damage dealt / time in combat)
21:02.51NeoTronkind of odd.
21:03.16ShefkiHmm can't seem to reproduce with just Recount.
21:03.34ElsiaNeoTron: it takes the longer combat time between you and your pet, so say if you send your pet in and wait a little to attack your combined dps will not be the arithmetic sum but somewhat less
21:04.07ElsiaShefki: I'd love to figure out what addon causes the interference, can you let me know if you figure out what does this?
21:04.31ShefkiYup working on it.
21:04.36Elsiacoolio
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21:07.02NeoTronElsia: I was using the time specified in the dropdown "past event" list to calculate the dps
21:07.14NeoTronis that different from what you just said?
21:07.26NeoTronbesides my DPS was listed as like 1100 and I did 1900
21:07.48Elsianot sure what "past event" refers to
21:07.56NeoTronit was while using short-term dps pets such as dancing rune weapon and gargoyle
21:08.02NeoTronthe list of past fights
21:08.04Elsiaand 1900 by whose definition of dps ;)
21:08.05NeoTronthere's only one such list
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21:08.12NeoTronby dmg/duration
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21:08.32Elsiawe are talking recount?
21:08.35NeoTronyes
21:08.43Elsiado you mean "past combat"?
21:08.48NeoTronerr
21:08.52NeoTrontheer is a list of the last 5 fights
21:09.07NeoTronliek the main reason I use recount over any other damage emter
21:09.10Elsiayes... it doesn't use the total combat time to calculate DPS
21:09.44NeoTrondoes it liek add the pet and my combat time then/ :P
21:09.58NeoTronit's not like I stood there doing nothing for  5 minutes while a pet did 1 dps
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21:10.03Elsiait takes the longer of the two
21:10.24Elsiathe merged dps formula is (damage_you + damage_pet)/(max(your_time,pet_time)) roughly
21:10.35NeoTronwell I'll record screenshot but it's definitely broken since it wasn't even close
21:10.47NeoTronpet started when I started and stopped within a second or trhee of me
21:10.54NeoTronand it was like a 6-7m fight
21:11.17Elsiahmm
21:12.00Elsiaso you say the arithmetic sum is 1900dps and recount's merged dps is 1100dps but the combat time of both of you is very close to each other?
21:12.10NeoTronright
21:12.27NeoTronI don't have exact number but unless I made some blatant mistake that is about what it is
21:12.42Elsiayou can just unmerge and add the values
21:12.44NeoTronI really doubt I'd be even able to do just 1000-1100ish dps in my part naxx-10 part pvp premade gear
21:12.56NeoTronthat's about as much as my non-premade DK can handle
21:13.03NeoTronthe added amoutn is correct
21:13.07NeoTronyou can't add DPS
21:13.23NeoTronbecause pets like dancing rune weapon and gargoyle have very low dps time
21:13.31NeoTronbut high DPS
21:13.42Elsiaah, but that's correct then
21:14.03NeoTronno it's not :P
21:14.07MegalonNeoTron: hunter? had an premade hunter with 2600-2400dps in naxx10 :o
21:14.08Fisker-slaps NeoTron around a bit with a large trout
21:14.10NeoTronmerged, the DPS should be correct
21:14.10Elsiasee your combat time is long, but pets time is short, it takes the max of both, hence the number is low
21:14.12NeoTronMegalon: DK
21:14.23Elsiadefine "correct" dps
21:14.26NeoTronDMG/TIME
21:14.30Megalonah, thought of pets=hunter sry ;D
21:14.31Elsiawhat "time"?
21:14.33NeoTrontotal damage dealt divided by time of combat
21:14.51NeoTronthe time that is indicated in the history of past stored fights
21:14.58NeoTronof which recount has at most 5
21:15.09Elsiathat's not how recount defines DPS
21:15.17NeoTronthat is how I define DPS when trying to calculate it
21:15.21Elsialet me try to find gello's post explaining the many different way to define DPS...
21:15.30NeoTronrecount defining my DPS at like half of actual DPS makes no sense
21:15.44Elsiahow do I explain this...
21:15.51NeoTronif it gets completely broken by high dps, low duration pets, something is wrong
21:16.02Elsiaok so you do 1000 dps where your damage is 10000 and the time is 10 seconds
21:16.11Elsiayour pet does 100 damage over 1 second
21:16.18Elsiawhat is the correct dps?
21:16.24NeoTron1001
21:16.28NeoTronwait 1010
21:16.51Elsiathat's what recounts formula gives
21:17.01NeoTronno that is what I get when I add the numbers to 1900
21:17.04NeoTronrecount gave me much less :P
21:17.26Elsianote that the pet is only dealing damage for 1 second
21:17.47NeoTronthat is besides the point. I'm only interested in total damage divided by total duration
21:18.04Elsiawell recount doesn't give you that ;)(
21:18.17NeoTronin my case I did probably around 1600 DPS, ghoul around 185 DPS and any extra DPS from 2xgargoyle summons
21:18.28NeoTronexample
21:18.37Elsiaah hmm I see your point
21:18.44Elsiathere is a potential bug for multiple pets
21:18.47NeoTronI do 600000 damage, ghoul does 75000 dmg, gargoyle does 70000 damage
21:18.49NeoTronfight lasts 6 minutes
21:18.55NeoTronwhat is the DPS recount tells me?
21:19.09NivFreakzero
21:19.10NivFreakclearly
21:19.19NeoTronlua> (600000 + 75000 + 70000)/6*60
21:19.21lua_botNeoTron: 7450000
21:19.22Elsiano see I think I realized that there is a problem with recount handling multiple pets
21:19.24NeoTronerr
21:19.29NeoTronlua> (600000 + 75000 + 70000)/(6*60)
21:19.30lua_botNeoTron: 2069.4444444444
21:19.45NeoTronok then that makes sense :P
21:20.05Elsiarecount doesn't faithfully handle multiple pets yet, but given the DK craze i'll have to look into that. thanks for pointing it out
21:20.38NeoTronDK's can have DRW/gargoyle + 1+ ghoul (resummon, different name/id, if they die) + any number of blood worms
21:20.52Elsiayeah
21:21.18NeoTronhow does it handle boomkin treants or mage elementals that can be used more than once / are more than one entity/
21:21.23NeoTrondoes it go by guid or names?
21:21.31ShefkiElsia: Narrowed it down a bit more.  The Recount Main window has to be closed when I log in or reloadui
21:21.33Elsiathey have the same names
21:21.52ElsiaShefki: let me try
21:21.55NeoTronok
21:22.02NeoTroneven mages will hit this though with mirror image + frostie
21:22.18ElsiaShefki: still works fine on my end
21:22.50ElsiaNeoTron: yeah it was possible before with guardians, but not really a big deal. WotLK makes multi-pets a normalcy
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21:25.49Elsiahmm I take that back, recount should handle multiple pets correctly... I'll try test some
21:25.59ShefkiElsia: Found how to reproduce it for sure.  It's an interaction with another addon.
21:26.06Elsiaforgot that I added that for totems :P
21:26.17ElsiaShefki: great, which one?
21:26.17ShefkiI'm using Goose to show Recount's main window when I join a group.
21:26.33Elsiahmm goose?
21:26.37ShefkiWith the following config:  Show or hide frame: Recountt_MainWindow
21:26.44Shefkiwhen: [group] show
21:26.56ShefkiGoose basically let's you show or hide frames based on macro conditionals.
21:27.04Elsiaah, i see
21:27.06Shefkiermm Recount_MainWindow
21:27.26ShefkiIf I log in without any data and the Recount_MainWindow hidden and then show it I end up with Test bars.
21:27.34ShefkiIf it's already shown then everything is fine.
21:27.38Elsiajust showing the window doesn't necessarily populate the window with the bar data though
21:28.10Elsiacan you tell goose to do something else but show/hide, like call a function?
21:28.25ShefkiDon't think so.
21:29.06ElsiaBecause what you'd want is something along the lines of: Recount.MainWindow:Show();Recount:RefreshMainWindow()
21:29.10dodgaAnybody using OpenWRT on a WRT54GL here? :D
21:29.12Stanzilla~seen nymbia
21:29.17purlnymbia <n=nymbia@c-67-190-49-185.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 16h 23m 56s ago, saying: 'svn'.
21:29.37ShefkiWell the odd thing is I'm not in a group right now.
21:29.46ShefkiSo technically goose shouldn't be doing anyhting.
21:29.55Elsiai blame goose :D
21:30.27ShefkiAnd I'm showing the window manually with /recount show
21:30.35ElsiaNeoTron: I see the problem, I don't properly track overlapping combat time between pets :P
21:31.07Elsiahmm /recount show does exactly Recount.MainWindow:Show();Recount:RefreshMainWindow() which populates the bars
21:32.13NeoTronElsia: ah... hmm... does that mean you count pet uptime as a sum of the uptime for all pets or something weird? :P
21:32.22Elsiayeah
21:32.25Elsiawhich is wrong
21:32.36Elsiait's kinda hard to do the right thing :P
21:32.50ElsiaI'll have to think about that one
21:33.09ElsiaI could wheasle out and take max of all combatants
21:33.25Repo10mounted: 03yssaril 07master * 0.0.11b-1-g5ad7d0f 10 files: [+1 commits]
21:33.25Repo[5ad7d0f] redid the options to be more intuitive
21:33.39Elsiawonder if there is a clean yet not table heavy way of doing the right thing :P
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21:35.27Foggerok, this function is a mess, but it works on beta, though not on live I get an error on line 12, (elapsed is nil) can anyone tell me why? http://pastey.net/97694
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21:38.49Repo10recount: 03Elsia * r931 Recount_Modes.lua: Recount:
21:38.50Repo- No longer falsely overestimate pet combat time in merged DPS formula when multiple damage dealing pets are present (Thanks to NeoTron for figuring this one out).
21:40.12ShefkiElsia: http://ace.pastey.net/97695
21:40.13ElsiaNeoTron: can you try this and let me know if numbers are more in line?
21:40.17ShefkiElsia: Definately Goose.
21:40.59[SW]DodgeShefki: line 4 is faik ;> "if self.checkIn &lt;= 0 then"
21:41.01[SW]Dodgefail*
21:41.10ShefkiIt's in an XML file.
21:41.16ShefkiAnd I didn't write it.
21:41.29Elsiahehe
21:41.43ShefkiNote what it's doing with .IsShown
21:42.04ShefkiI have no idea why it needs to mess with the frames IsShown function to do what it does.
21:42.21Elsiathat code is whack
21:42.37ShefkiYeah I'm not even sure WTH it is supposed to do.
21:42.43Elsiaif frame:IsShown() then frame:Show() else ... makes no sesne
21:42.51Elsiaso if it's shown you show it some more?
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21:43.22NeoTronElsia: I can't try right now as I'm at work
21:43.25ShefkiOr how about the caching of the shown state to return with IsShown()
21:43.31NeoTronbut I will try it tonight
21:43.40ElsiaNeoTron: no worries, throw me a PM if it's still messed up any time
21:44.27ShefkiAnyway I'm ditching Goose.
21:44.30ShefkiThat code scares me.
21:44.41Elsiayeah, sounds sensible :D
21:45.11ShefkiIf only Recount had the ability to show the main window in a sensible way when I actually want it.
21:45.25Elsiayou want group-based visibility?
21:45.40ShefkiYup.
21:46.29ShefkiThe options make it seem like that's a possiblity but it doesn't seem to work.
21:46.36ElsiaI'll put it on the wishlist, not sure yet if I can add this easily, probably needs to be combined with group-based data collection
21:47.19Elsiaonly works for combat and zone type, not grouping yet
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21:47.44Elsiayet I agree that filtering by grouping makes a lot of sense
21:48.29ShefkiDoes Hide When Not Collecting only hide the frame?  It won't show it will it?
21:48.47Elsiait will when you enter a zone where it collects
21:48.59Elsiaso if you mostly group in instances, you can use that as the next best thing
21:49.23Elsiathat's what I use for raiding basically
21:49.25ShefkiMaybe that's good enough.
21:49.42Elsiawell give it a try... I'll see if I can add some group-based filtering
21:50.49ShefkiI think I started using Goose before that was added.
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21:51.03ShefkiAs whack as that code was everything worked fine until recently.
21:51.17Elsiahehe, maybe it's fine, it's just oddly written code
21:51.36Elsiawell fine modulo messing with the way recounts needs the main window shown :P
21:52.01ShefkiI don't think it was really intended to use with any window.
21:52.12ShefkiI think it was mostly intended to hide and show actionbars.
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21:54.33ElsiaI spent some time optimizing the main window trying to reduce the number of refreshes. it only refreshes when recount deems it needed per its state. I can see there being a problem if it actually believes the window is hidden when someone else shows it... I guess there may be a way for me to check and refresh :P
21:54.40Elsiabut goose is too scary :D
21:55.14ShefkiI wouldn't have bothered you if I'd realized it was doing stuff like that.
21:55.26ShefkiI assumed it was a simple frame:Show() or frame:Hide()
21:57.32Elsianah no worries, was cool to realize that and it's good to know because others may use goose with recount and then I know already
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21:58.10ElsiaI should probably do a fix recount side... it's kinda legit to try to show that window
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21:58.42ShefkiElsia: well I think the issue is that it's overriding the IsShown() nd making it return things it shouldn't.
21:58.53Elsiatrue
22:00.13Elsiathat code surely will taint if he grabs the wrong frame too :P
22:00.36Kaeltennevcairiel: save me!
22:04.08mitchnullyo
22:04.26mitchnullhow many times can I call GetItemInfo w/o any ill efects?
22:06.35Arrowmasterits getting info from your cache only, so unlimited
22:06.35Kaeltenmitchnull: I've called it 65k times before
22:06.38Kaeltenin a loop
22:07.22NeoTronGetItemInfo doesn't cause issues
22:07.33NeoTronit's the item tooltip digging that does
22:08.08mitchnulland the docs are correct that it won't b0rk with some error on uncached items, just return nil, right?
22:09.10mitchnullyeah, seems like it (at least there doesn't seem to be an item with id 991251 :)
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22:14.41Jyggahm, even IF i got standalone libs and bundled libs those shouldnt trigger an "translation added twice" bug right? Oo
22:14.48Fisker-Groktar
22:15.00Fisker-doh
22:18.01ArrowmasterJygga: thats not a lib error its an addon error
22:18.42Arrowmasterfrom installing an addon thats ment to be unpacked into multiple addons and also installing it again without unpacking it
22:19.16Jygga<3 that curse client then 8/
22:19.24mitchnullerm is the itemSubType return value of GetItemInfo localized?
22:19.30Arrowmastercan you tell what addon it was?
22:19.40mitchnullor is it "Bandage" for all locales (example)
22:20.07Arrowmasterthe addon probably hasnt been updated to use the new stuff for setting up modules like that
22:20.13Jyggathe errors are triggered by all cartographer modules, guess i have to cleanswepp those and resinstall right
22:20.14Jygga?
22:20.20Arrowmasterprobably
22:20.31Arrowmasterlet me take a look at cartographer
22:21.02Jyggawell it all started when the curse client began to update addons on the fly
22:21.04Jygga:)
22:21.19Shefkimitchnull: The item type and sub type are localized.
22:21.57StanzillaJygga: you probably have Cartographer_Notes and a Notes folder inside the Cartographer folder etc
22:22.31mitchnullshefki: yeah, just found it on wowwiki.. that kinda sucks :(
22:23.10mitchnullI wanted to do an "assert(bandage)" check, but meh, let's hope they don't screw around with itemids :)
22:23.34JyggaStanzilla yep thats the case
22:24.25StanzillaJygga: curse client currently only supports the "style" when those folders are inside the cartographer folder, so if you want to keep using it, delete those extra Cartographer_* folders outside it
22:24.30Repo10collectinator: 03Ackis * r34 Dataminer.rb: Dataminer update
22:24.42ArrowmasterStanzilla: it has nothing to do with the curse client
22:24.55nevcairielsomeone just has to fix the .pkgmeta of carto
22:25.02Arrowmasterwhich im about to
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22:25.09nevcairieloh noes
22:25.13Arrowmasterneed to fix some other stuff in it too
22:25.19Jyggaokay so which do i keep now? :)
22:25.26nevcairielI thought i fixed all externals and shit in there
22:25.44Arrowmasternevcairiel: meh i forgot --ignore-externals and it errored on me
22:25.53nevcairielheh
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22:26.03nevcairieli wrote me a simple script to do that for me
22:26.14nevcairieli just type "co cartographer" and it checks the right shit out
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22:26.56Jyggasorry for dragging you into believing its something fixworthy instead of "just another stupid user"-thing ! ^^
22:27.17Repo10arl: 03Ackis 06wotlk-branch * r921 ARLDataminer.rb: Dataminer update
22:27.37StanzillaArrowmaster: ah you're right, sorry..got confused :P
22:28.02Nechcknnevcairiel  I keep typing  co cartograher    but it's not working!
22:28.04ArrowmasterJygga: nah its something that need fixed after the move anyway
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22:28.34NechcknSee.. that's the sort of comment I'm used to.  =)
22:29.34chipersourceforge just got a makeover
22:29.40Arrowmasteragain?
22:30.01chiperhrm, I'm being told this was done earlier
22:30.14Jyggathen im relieved, which versions do i keep now? which "style" will prevail?
22:30.27Arrowmasterthe multiple addon one will
22:31.03mitchnullsuperb, IsItemInRange(itemLinke, unit) works for bandages the character never even seen ;)
22:31.18Arrowmastermitchnull: hax
22:31.31mitchnullpsst! don't tell them
22:31.33Arrowmastermitchnull: try the decapitator?
22:31.40mitchnullwhat's that?
22:31.50Arrowmasteronehand axe from prince in kara
22:32.13Arrowmasteron use to throw it
22:33.11mitchnullwhat's its range?
22:33.21Arrowmastersomething like 35+ yards
22:33.39Megalon40y
22:34.10mitchnullseems to work
22:34.14mitchnullyeah,long range
22:34.17Arrowmasterwow
22:34.19Arrowmasterhax
22:34.27mitchnulltried on a lvl1 warrior :)
22:34.40Arrowmasterumm try it on somebody that cant use axes
22:34.42mitchnullarrow: but it's less likely it'll be in the itemcache...
22:34.58Arrowmasterits highly likely to be seen on the server though
22:34.59mitchnullok, I'll try on my mage
22:35.08Arrowmasterpeople that got it will not be deleting it
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22:35.55mitchnullalthough it's strange its in my cache
22:36.00mitchnullI bet I never seen it
22:36.21Arrowmasterif youve inspected somebody thats had it then it will be in your cache
22:36.42mitchnullsome addon sneaked it in!
22:36.51mitchnull:)
22:38.04mitchnullworks with my mage, too
22:38.17mitchnullhohum
22:38.32mitchnulllot of improvement possibilities for LibRangeCheck then ;)
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22:40.02mitchnullhow would I go about collecting all the targetable items with range?
22:40.29Arrowmasterumm, wowhead filters?
22:40.32Arrowmasterno clue
22:41.19mitchnullthis 40yd range on this axe is not part of the data, for example...
22:42.02Arrowmasterclick the text for the onuse on wowhead
22:42.24mitchnullah
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22:42.38Repo10acheron: 03Nickodemus_wow 04release * r43 : Tagging as release.
22:43.09Repo10buff-enough: 03Nickodemus_wow 04release * r57 : Tagging as release.
22:43.13mitchnullI guess an sql select from their DB would be more productive than crawling the whole site :)
22:43.28Arrowmasteryeah doesnt seem they have decent filters for that
22:43.32Arrowmastertry wowdb
22:45.32mitchnullanyway, tts, nighty night
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22:54.27mjcany prot pallies? could use some gear advice
22:54.54NeoTronhmm how did the forum stuff get migrated on wowace?
22:55.12Chompersmoar spell damage mjc
22:55.13ChompersMOAR
22:55.13NeoTronas in will posts by me be considered to be by me or do I need to somehow get the association made?
22:55.27NeoTronmjc: man that's about to change in a week
22:55.43mjcthat's what I'm asking
22:55.44mjc:P
22:55.56NeoTronpost-patch - whatever the warrior would wear
22:56.05Facktotummjc: http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t21425-paladin_protection/
22:56.55mjcit was updated recently?
22:57.01mjclooked at it on friday
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22:57.29Maldiviamitchnull ?
22:57.42mitchnullhm?
22:57.43thulwhat msn-clients do people use in osx?
22:57.49mjcthul: adium, amsn
22:57.58mjcdepending on whether you want multi-protocol or actual features
22:58.03thulI'm using adium now.. but it lacks a feature that annoys me.
22:58.08mjcplus there is an official MSN client
22:58.15mjcthul: what feature
22:58.28JyggaArrowmaster got the same problem with Pitbull, just fyi :)
22:58.34thulwell, it won't let me talk to people that set themselves "show as offline"
22:58.36liquidzoopidgin
22:58.40thulit did before, but not after one of the last updates
22:58.44liquidzoooh...OSX, nm
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23:11.00Repo10cartographer: 03Arrowmaster * r2250 / (40 files in 18 directories): Fix .pkgmeta to use move-folder's and fix various svn props
23:13.03Yssarilfyi the new wowace is a pain to use with ie6 :P damn work not upgrading
23:14.40Facktotumie6 is blasphemy
23:15.04YssarilFacktotum: ie is blasphemy :P
23:16.29Facktotumwell ie6 is the biggest blasphemy yet
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23:24.55Jyggapitbull error that got me confused: http://www.pastey.net/97700 (not showing health text, might be connected to libmobmobhealth error http://www.pastey.net/97701 ? attempts to fix by reinstall failed
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23:27.44Stanzillackknight: ^
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23:34.08Repo10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r8 / (6 files in 5 directories): ZOMGBuffs:
23:34.08Repo- Fixed wow3 detection, so it'll now run on PTR as well as beta.
23:34.09Repo- Jiggled some jigglies.
23:34.12Repo- Moved state change code to core, yes. I was told and wouldn't listen. Go me.
23:34.31ShefkiJygga: Live or beta?
23:34.38Jyggalive
23:34.48NeoTronhttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=43015 is a pretty sick buff for enhance shamans and probably ret pallies
23:35.23leech2knice, fs: Zeksie * r8 / (6 files in 5 directories): ZOMGBuffs:
23:35.28leech2khmm
23:35.33leech2knot what I meant to paste
23:35.51Zeksiekek
23:36.11leech2knice, Jiggled some jigglies.
23:36.33ShefkiJygga: Looks like a LibMobHealth bug.
23:36.48Zeksiehey. that's serious business!
23:36.51Jyggahttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=34766 <- thatone is cheaper for the same buff :)
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23:37.23ShaneSvellerAckis: ping
23:37.32ShefkiJygga: The LibDogTag issue is just DogTag not finding the function because MobHealth barfed at the file level before it created the function.
23:37.46Repo10ora2: 03Rabbit * r620 / (3 files in 3 directories):
23:37.47RepoExplain about the new keybindings in the tooltip instead of showing a list of tanks (have that in the UI anyway.)
23:38.16NeoTronJygga: there's a bit of a difference between "buffs self" and "buffs the raid" though
23:38.28Jyggaand the spellpower portion is missing ye
23:39.17Stanzillavhaarr: got my message about the bugsack bug?
23:39.24vhaarrwhat bug?
23:39.26thulhttp://www.ratebeer.com/Ratings/Beer/Beer-Ratings.asp?BeerID=10514 < i want that
23:39.33vhaarrStanzilla: no
23:39.37JyggaShefki can you throw some wisdom over here on what i could do to fix it? i must have done something (propably alloweing the curse client to do stuff...) that made it barf :P
23:40.12Stanzillavhaarr: I had this bug BugSack-2.x.x.152\BugSack.lua:374: attempt to call field 'RegisterCallback' (a nil value) then you told me to update buggrabber too but I still get it, and the bugsack ldb feed shows "0" but I have that one bug listed in the tooltip
23:40.27ShefkiJygga: Do you happen to have an old version of LibMobHealth installed?
23:40.38vhaarrStanzilla: /print BugGrabber.RegisterCallback ingame
23:40.55ShaneSvellerbugsack has an ldb feed now?
23:40.57Jyggaif i had, i dont now, still not fixed
23:41.02Stanzillavhaarr: function: 18C445C8
23:41.24vhaarrStanzilla: that makes no sense whatsoever, your addons are royally screwed in some way
23:41.27vhaarrlocal modifications, I dunno
23:41.46Stanzillaclean svn checkouts
23:41.47Stanzilla:(
23:42.20vhaarrShaneSveller: trunk does yeah, removed Ace2 and fubarplugin from it
23:42.26ShefkiJygga: This may be related to the revision numbers changing when wowace moved.
23:42.38ShaneSvellervhaarr: fawesome, thank you very very much
23:42.45Jyggar68090 | ckknight | 2008-04-04 21:06:31 -0400 (Fri, 04 Apr 2008) <- got thatone now
23:42.51vhaarrit's still using dewdrop for options
23:43.03vhaarrsome people call that "eeeewww", I call it "works fine, shut up"
23:43.40NeoTron"eeeewwww"
23:43.58NeoTrondoesn't dewdrop use Ace2? or at least AceLibrary?
23:44.02vhaarracelibrary yes
23:44.05vhaarrno harm in that
23:44.10NeoTronis AceLibrary separate from Ace2?
23:44.13vhaarryes
23:44.45vhaarrdewdrop could easily be changed to use LibStub though
23:44.48ShefkiJygga: Well you've got two copies of LibMobHealth-4.0 coming from somwhere.
23:45.08vhaarrsomeone just has to care enough to do it, I don't, since I don't see AceLibrary as a problem
23:45.11ShefkiJygga: Possibly one is embeded in an addon.
23:45.17Jyggagrepping that ...
23:45.26vhaarror, in fact, Ace2 at all
23:45.59vhaarrbut now that fubar isn't the center of the world anymore, Ace2 isn't really a solution either, so I'm removing it where I can
23:46.13NeoTronAceLibrary is part of Ace2 so you're still depending on Ace2
23:46.20vhaarrwtf are you on about
23:46.26vhaarrit pulls in AceLibrary as an external
23:46.55vhaarrNeoTron: so fix dewdrop then to use LibStub
23:47.05Stanzillavhaarr: downloaded fresh zips from wowace and still that error
23:47.12NeoTronfrom a disembedded PoV it's part of Ace2. I'm not complaining
23:47.12vhaarrStanzilla: zips?
23:47.23vhaarrNeoTron: noone can run disembedded now anyway, it's all fucked
23:47.23Stanzillayes
23:47.30vhaarrwith LDB, CBH and LibStub everywhere
23:47.38Stanzillahttp://static.wowace.com/uploads/18/225/589/BugSack-r154.zip and http://static.wowace.com/uploads/18/219/597/!BugGrabber-r126.zip
23:47.49vhaarrhad no idea that even existed, Stanzilla :p
23:47.53Stanzilla^^
23:48.12NeoTronI still do but I probably will stop, taking the load time hit, due to the wowace change
23:48.12vhaarrStanzilla: well your UI is fubared, you have some local modifications on something else then, I dunno
23:48.27Stanzillamkay
23:48.28Stanzillaweird
23:48.50vhaarrNeoTron: well I run disembedded since I just use svn on everything, but I have Ace2 still since I don't consider it a pest like everyone else
23:49.18NeoTrontoo much depend on Ace2 atm anyway
23:49.19vhaarrStanzilla: ah wait
23:49.26vhaarrStanzilla: I know what it is
23:49.50vhaarrgrrr
23:49.52NeoTronnot so much a pest as it is duplicate code
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23:50.00vhaarrsee, now I have to include LibStub and CBH with !BugGrabber
23:50.26Stanzilla:)
23:50.50NeoTronare optional dependencies fixed on beta yet btw?
23:51.01ShefkiDon't think so. :(
23:51.02NeoTronthat's another thing that can end disembedding real fast
23:51.31NeoTronI had to manually load LibBars in MagicTargets to make it work
23:52.51vhaarrnevcairiel: ping
23:53.05vhaarrckknight: Your .pkgmeta file is invalid:
23:53.05vhaarrcould not determine a constructor for the tag '!BugGrabber'
23:53.05vhaarr<PROTECTED>
23:53.05vhaarr<PROTECTED>
23:53.19vhaarrit doesn't like the !
23:53.20ckknightput it in quotes
23:53.26ckknightpackage-as: "!BugGrabber"
23:53.34Repo10bug-grabber: 03Rabbit * r127 / (3 files in 2 directories): Add LS and CBH.
23:53.37vhaarrckknight: thanks
23:53.38NeoTronvhaarr: one option to embedding them is to have optional dependency on LDB
23:53.47ckknightyea, ! is seen as an event for YAML
23:53.48ckknightor something
23:53.49vhaarrNeoTron: there is no standalone LDB
23:53.55NeoTroncorrect
23:54.02NeoTronbut any display addon would have them embedded
23:55.05ShefkiYAML seems like real overkill for .pkgmeta
23:55.12Repo10bug-grabber: 03Rabbit * r128 BugGrabber.lua:
23:55.13RepoNo reason to check for the existence of LS or CBH anymore since we package it.
23:55.21vhaarrfucks off
23:57.51ckknightShefki: I completely disagree
23:58.19ckknightShefki: by having it in YAML, I am warranted quite a few things. (1) don't have to write my own parser (2) it's extensible, so I can keep adding new things to it
23:58.25ckknightShefki: do you really have a better alternative?
23:58.32NeoTronlisp
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23:59.11NeoTronheh

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