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| 00:08.28 | Kaelten | NivFreak: theres no hard feelings if you want to uninstall it btw |
| 00:08.36 | Kaelten | on a side note guys I'm up to 160k on posts import |
| 00:09.00 | NivFreak | Kaelten: I'm just trying to make the best of what we're getting |
| 00:09.08 | NivFreak | I can always just pull from svn |
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| 00:09.36 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 00:09.56 | NivFreak | in general I'm concerned with the direction, but that doesn't mean I should abandon ship :P |
| 00:10.06 | Kaelten | don't settle from the start though mate, we want to put out something that people want to use |
| 00:10.16 | Kaelten | we honestly want to make the best client we can |
| 00:10.22 | NivFreak | sure, but you want people to pay for it |
| 00:10.23 | Kaelten | its just going to be a long road to get there :) |
| 00:10.34 | NeoTron | the first thing you need to do, regardless, is to makeit not install addons secretly |
| 00:10.41 | Kaelten | we're hoping the price of soda a month won't be too much for people :) |
| 00:10.45 | NeoTron | or you'll have a spyware reputation regardless of the purpose of the addon |
| 00:10.57 | Kaelten | I definately understand that concern. |
| 00:10.59 | NivFreak | Kaelten: there are plenty of people that I play with, and I'm sure you do to, that absolutely won't pay for it |
| 00:11.03 | NivFreak | no matter what the cost |
| 00:11.11 | NivFreak | for me, yes, I don't care |
| 00:11.16 | Kaelten | I've met them ;) |
| 00:11.16 | NivFreak | $3/month is nothing |
| 00:11.36 | Kaelten | $20.00 a year? I'll spend that on a nice lunch |
| 00:11.38 | NivFreak | but I have to say, you guys aren't really taking a free market approach to it |
| 00:11.49 | leech2k | can wowace peoples get a free premo version :-) |
| 00:12.06 | NivFreak | instead of developing a solution that meets everyones needs, and then offering it at a low cost, or even then forcing them to use it |
| 00:12.09 | Kaelten | leech2k: right now its on a trial of the premium features :) |
| 00:12.15 | NivFreak | we're being forced to use an alpha/beta version of the client |
| 00:12.18 | NivFreak | that has a long way to go |
| 00:12.35 | leech2k | Kaelten: yeah, I just dread the day I have to manually click each addon |
| 00:12.35 | NivFreak | so yes, I'm in settling |
| 00:12.42 | NivFreak | I don't really have an option |
| 00:12.43 | Kaelten | valid criticism. But I'm sure you understand that free market pressures don't agree with the "when its ready" approach |
| 00:13.00 | Kaelten | google, and blizzard have enough money where that doesn't matter, we're not in as good of a situation. |
| 00:13.23 | NivFreak | I understand your constraints |
| 00:13.26 | leech2k | does curse actually pay Kaelten,ckk, others? |
| 00:13.26 | NivFreak | just don't tell me not to settle |
| 00:13.35 | NivFreak | you've put us in a situation where we have no alternative |
| 00:13.48 | NivFreak | we'll give you guys all the feedback that we can to try and get it close to what we want |
| 00:13.51 | Kaelten | leech2k: Me and ck are both full time employees |
| 00:13.55 | NivFreak | but today it isn't what we want, and likely it won't be for some time |
| 00:14.23 | Kaelten | *nods* i understand man. I'm hoping by years end it'll be in a much better state |
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| 00:15.21 | NivFreak | but yes, engineers/developers tend to be interesting folks, and doing shady shit can create a lasting impression |
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| 00:15.43 | Cryect | google goes for the when its ready approach? |
| 00:15.43 | NivFreak | a lot of people already have a negative view of curse, one which I must be missing history on |
| 00:15.54 | Cryect | have you seen the amount of stuff they release that is nowhere near ready? |
| 00:15.59 | NivFreak | Cryect: google goes for the, fuck you it's always beta approach |
| 00:16.04 | Cryect | yeah :-p |
| 00:16.40 | NivFreak | blizzard is probably also a bad example with 3.0 inc |
| 00:16.40 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 00:16.45 | NivFreak | but I understand his point |
| 00:17.33 | NeoTron | and although it's been said, it seems like an amazingly bad business decision to make a dataminer addon install automatically when, from all accounts, you already have a bad rep |
| 00:17.48 | Tekkub | Kaelten, I NEED my Amazing Member back.... http://www.flickr.com/photos/26681170@N03/2903488458/ |
| 00:17.55 | Tekkub | I'm half a man now |
| 00:18.11 | Kaelten | lol |
| 00:18.17 | Starinnia | start posting! |
| 00:18.33 | Kaelten | we'll get the post levels done in the morning :) |
| 00:19.03 | Starinnia | I think you should have Tek earn the rank back :P |
| 00:19.55 | Tekkub | this ain't an expansion pack, I don't need to regain exalted with wowace expedition :P |
| 00:20.11 | Kaelten | lmao |
| 00:20.15 | Starinnia | rofl |
| 00:20.29 | Kaelten | I'll need to put some higher ranks thoguh |
| 00:20.34 | Kaelten | something to shoot for. |
| 00:20.40 | Dashkal | Blizzard 180s on Honor: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/10532279664-wrath-of-the-lich-king-honor-update.html |
| 00:20.45 | Tekkub | So Big American Member |
| 00:21.11 | vithos | the page the curse client opens when you remove it is a 404 http://www.curse.com/client/uninstall |
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| 00:21.32 | Tekkub | so don't uninstall |
| 00:21.34 | Tekkub | duh |
| 00:22.10 | NeoTron | they should increase the honor cap and honor gain and make it so l70 honor can buy maybe one item.. :) |
| 00:22.20 | Legorol | Kaelten: approximately how long do you think files.wowace.com will be accessible still, and how long will WAU still function on the mods in their "frozen" state? |
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| 00:23.10 | Kaelten | Legorol: at least a few days more |
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| 00:23.34 | Tekkub | question, would it be worth importing TourGuide guides into a nice pretty web site? Tem's vote doesn't count he already cast it |
| 00:23.36 | Tuller | hrm, I cannot seem to commit to keybound :P |
| 00:23.59 | Shefki | NeoTron: Honor cap is gone in Wrath. |
| 00:24.17 | Kaelten | Tekkub: might be, I'd be willing to host it for you if you want. |
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| 00:24.31 | Tekkub | I already have hosting, and I've poked at it |
| 00:24.46 | Tekkub | I just wanted opinions before I dug in deep |
| 00:24.48 | fewyn | hmmm.... anyplaces i can easily find ldb addons? |
| 00:24.49 | Shefki | All the tokens have an item now and the item has the stack size that the token is limited to and they're all set to some absurdly high number including Honor. |
| 00:24.54 | Tekkub | I myself don't see any use for it |
| 00:25.05 | Tekkub | but, I could compete directly with kopp/joana |
| 00:25.36 | Tekkub | absurdly my ass, I bet it's a very logical number |
| 00:25.52 | Shefki | Okay it's probably some power of 2. :) |
| 00:25.52 | Tekkub | like say, max value storable is a long int? |
| 00:26.03 | Tekkub | what's the number exactly again? |
| 00:26.12 | Shefki | I don't remember and the beta servers are down. |
| 00:26.18 | Tekkub | bastards |
| 00:26.22 | Dashkal | lua> (2^31) - 1 |
| 00:26.22 | lua_bot | Dashkal: 2147483647 |
| 00:26.23 | Tekkub | we getting a build? |
| 00:26.31 | Shefki | That looks about right. |
| 00:26.40 | Tekkub | that's also the gold cap |
| 00:26.42 | Dashkal | if it's a 32 bit number, that's the likely value |
| 00:26.46 | Tekkub | well, copper cap to be exact |
| 00:27.02 | Tekkub | 214748.36.47 |
| 00:27.09 | Shefki | I meant absurdly high as in very unlikely anyone is going to hit it. |
| 00:27.20 | Shefki | Of course I say that and some crazy person will get that much Honor. |
| 00:27.27 | Dashkal | They said that about gold... |
| 00:27.53 | Tekkub | honor maybe, doubt anyone will get near it with the token currencies though |
| 00:28.05 | Tekkub | that mean the cap on marks of honor is gone too? |
| 00:28.13 | Shefki | I believe so. |
| 00:28.26 | Shefki | I haven't tried to cap them out though to see. |
| 00:28.36 | Shefki | Either that or the stack counts are wrong. |
| 00:28.43 | Tekkub | anywho, anyone else out there that things a TourGuide web page would be useful? |
| 00:28.57 | Shefki | Sure. :) |
| 00:29.14 | Starinnia | why are people using TourGuide outside of WoW exactly? |
| 00:29.21 | Shefki | If you make it they will come. |
| 00:29.25 | Tekkub | I don't know, that's what I'm asking |
| 00:29.49 | Tekkub | it wouldn't be too hard to import the guides, but making the site pretty isn't my best suit |
| 00:30.21 | Starinnia | make the site so ugly somebody asks you if they can make it pretty for you |
| 00:30.26 | ulic | what would said site do, just promote TG, like kopp/joana's do? |
| 00:30.39 | Tekkub | it would display the TG guides |
| 00:30.52 | Tekkub | nice and pretty, links to wowhead, tooltips from wowhead |
| 00:31.13 | Tekkub | there's no way in hell I'd "promote" like joana/kopp |
| 00:31.22 | Tekkub | fucking infomercial websites |
| 00:32.11 | WobWork | and if you buy in the next 15min, you'll get a free TEKKUB APPROVED PUNCH IN THE FACE! |
| 00:32.23 | WobWork | (Buy now!) |
| 00:32.24 | ulic | I'm not sure I'd find it useful, the thing I love about TG is that it's nice and in game, don't have to use web sites, I'm not sure what the appeal would be, at least from my perspective. |
| 00:32.49 | NivFreak | I should try TG some day |
| 00:32.51 | Shefki | Honestly, I don't use addons like TourGuide. |
| 00:32.57 | Tekkub | "Now these secrets being revealed are so startling and shocking that it is in danger of being taken off the internet as we speak" |
| 00:33.07 | Tekkub | ACTUAL QUOTE FROM KOPP'S SITE |
| 00:33.09 | WobWork | Duhn duhn Duuuuhn! |
| 00:33.24 | Shefki | Tekkub: Blizzard is going to knock down the door to their Data Center with a SWAT team. |
| 00:33.29 | Shefki | It's that shocking. |
| 00:33.44 | Tekkub | ulic, exactly why I'm asking |
| 00:34.03 | Tekkub | I'm a lazy bitch, I'm open to the idea but I want good reason to do it |
| 00:34.33 | Kaelten | lol |
| 00:34.42 | WobWork | Tekkub: as an exercise in coding to see if you can create a web framework that accepts TG routes and automatically creates the pages/links/images etc, then sure |
| 00:35.01 | Tekkub | WobWork, I already know I *CAN* |
| 00:35.20 | Hjalte | Tekkub: It might, and just might, make it easier to correct some guides. It could also be a way to show your friends what TG is about without having them install it. I'm not saying you should do it however, as I would have no use of it. |
| 00:35.43 | Tekkub | nah I wouldn't make it generate guides |
| 00:35.53 | WobWork | I'm not sure you want community inspired editing =P |
| 00:36.01 | Tekkub | it'd be the reverse, pulled from github and automatically generated |
| 00:36.17 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 00:36.21 | NivFreak | it just occured to me |
| 00:36.31 | NivFreak | my shadow priests are going to need to find some extra hit soon... |
| 00:36.33 | Tekkub | you're not wearing panfs? |
| 00:36.41 | fewyn | I AM NOT |
| 00:36.44 | NivFreak | I wonder if they even know that |
| 00:37.01 | Starinnia | they don't |
| 00:37.08 | Starinnia | always assume least knowledge |
| 00:37.12 | Tekkub | your spriests are stupid |
| 00:37.17 | NivFreak | Tekkub: agreed |
| 00:37.17 | Tekkub | tell them I hate them |
| 00:37.22 | NivFreak | I will |
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| 00:42.49 | NivFreak | Kaelten: I'm curious, what kind of sustained bandwidth usage levels did you guys see for wowace? |
| 00:43.01 | Kaelten | 30-60TB a month |
| 00:43.01 | Arrowmaster | 60TB a month |
| 00:43.03 | Arrowmaster | + |
| 00:43.05 | Arrowmaster | sometimes |
| 00:43.16 | NivFreak | that's not what I'm looking for |
| 00:43.21 | Arrowmaster | i bet 2.4 patch was hell |
| 00:43.25 | NivFreak | at peak levels during the day |
| 00:43.32 | NivFreak | what amount of constant throughput were you seeing? |
| 00:43.34 | Kaelten | ah hard to say |
| 00:43.45 | Kaelten | during patch days we'd put out 800mbit/s for extending time |
| 00:44.03 | NivFreak | not so bad |
| 00:44.11 | NivFreak | how about normal days? |
| 00:44.12 | Kaelten | non patch days doing 80+mb/s wasn't uncomon |
| 00:44.13 | NivFreak | 20mbiut? |
| 00:44.36 | NivFreak | so not insane |
| 00:44.38 | NivFreak | just reasonably high |
| 00:45.08 | Kaelten | 70-80 |
| 00:45.24 | Tekkub | he's just pulling numbers out his ass |
| 00:45.44 | fewyn | must be a big ass |
| 00:46.05 | fewyn | We had hoped that the introduction of some new Honor rewards in the upcoming patch would give players a great opportunity to spend any of their remaining Honor. However, many players would still be surprised by an Honor and token reset as it isnt something weve done in the past. As such, we've decided to not reset Honor or tokens upon the release of Wrath of the Lich King. Players who save their Honor will be able to spend it on level 80 reward |
| 00:46.09 | Tekkub | he just called you fat kael |
| 00:47.21 | NivFreak | so 100,000 honor items in wrath? |
| 00:47.22 | NivFreak | hah |
| 00:47.55 | er0r | as long as one can still afk in av while playing bejeweled ... |
| 00:48.05 | er0r | not that i would do that of course! |
| 00:48.07 | Arrowmaster | fewyn: link? |
| 00:48.24 | er0r | mmo-champion |
| 00:48.45 | fewyn | Arrowmaster: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/10532279664-wrath-of-the-lich-king-honor-update.html |
| 00:50.32 | NivFreak | so, do these guys find the patch before the client can pull it? |
| 00:50.54 | Arrowmaster | you havent been around long enough NivFreak |
| 00:51.03 | Arrowmaster | webseed abuse |
| 00:51.39 | fewyn | ^ |
| 00:53.18 | Arrowmaster | we really need to get a naming standard going |
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| 00:53.23 | Arrowmaster | especially for libs |
| 00:54.10 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: so how do I abuse it? :P |
| 00:54.12 | playfulkitten | So... can't stay logged into the forums, so does anyone mind my asking a possibly dumb question here? |
| 00:54.21 | Arrowmaster | forums are fucked |
| 00:54.38 | playfulkitten | Yah, I noticed... even though there are very recent posts it ain't much workin ;) |
| 00:54.51 | Arrowmaster | they are totally fucked for some people |
| 00:55.06 | playfulkitten | Does the new repository setup that's in work mean that no one will be capable of updating mods via SVN and keeping externals separate? |
| 00:55.23 | playfulkitten | I really abhor keeping 35 copies of the Ace 3 library for example |
| 00:55.30 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 00:55.45 | playfulkitten | (I also don't freak out if a mod breaks, I just revert to a known working version and go on my way) |
| 00:55.52 | playfulkitten | K |
| 00:57.15 | playfulkitten | So in a week or so if I come back after the dust has settled there probably will be 1 central repos to update from, just a different location? |
| 00:57.50 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 00:57.54 | Arrowmaster | there is no central repo |
| 00:59.13 | NivFreak | (scary) |
| 01:00.08 | playfulkitten | Rats... was afraid of that. That will mean updating from about 80 different places then, give or take? |
| 01:00.10 | Starinnia | I'm going to have to do so many commits to get my rev numbers back into the 80k range >< |
| 01:01.39 | playfulkitten | Unless the new Curse updater thingum will do externals separately, I suppose... |
| 01:01.40 | NivFreak | playfulkitten: I think the official answer is pay $3/month and use the curse updater |
| 01:01.47 | NivFreak | when it does that |
| 01:01.49 | NivFreak | which it doesn't |
| 01:01.50 | NivFreak | atm |
| 01:01.53 | NivFreak | :) |
| 01:01.58 | playfulkitten | *sigh* |
| 01:02.13 | Kilroo | Hm |
| 01:02.18 | playfulkitten | I can accept being a micromanager of mods costing me a bit of extra time. I don't know that I'm willing to accept it costing cash too. |
| 01:02.18 | Kilroo | hadn't thought about that |
| 01:02.19 | playfulkitten | :/ |
| 01:02.26 | Kilroo | does WUU not work anymore? |
| 01:02.34 | playfulkitten | I think I read it does not. |
| 01:02.41 | Kilroo | Awesome |
| 01:02.48 | NivFreak | they froze files.wowace.com |
| 01:02.49 | NivFreak | sooo |
| 01:02.55 | Kilroo | Hmm |
| 01:03.26 | Starinnia | nobody should be updating as frequently as they have been anymore |
| 01:03.34 | Kilroo | I guess I'll have to use WUU to pick out the set of addons I want, and then go download them manually. |
| 01:03.39 | Starinnia | there will not be a new version everytime an author touches their project |
| 01:04.01 | Kilroo | Apparently either wowace picked a lousy time to move everything or I picked a lousy time to reinstall the game. |
| 01:04.02 | playfulkitten | So is the only way to update using Curse's free abilities to bookmark every single mod I use and check every single bookmark for updates? |
| 01:04.13 | NivFreak | Kilroo: how so? |
| 01:04.18 | playfulkitten | Kilroo -- a little from column A, a little from column B ;) |
| 01:04.24 | Starinnia | playfulkitten: no, there is a free client you can use |
| 01:04.38 | Starinnia | just one click to update all is premium |
| 01:04.46 | NivFreak | playfulkitten: they have an updater, it will make you click on each addon, then click update, then wait 4 seconds, then click download |
| 01:04.53 | NivFreak | but it does work |
| 01:04.54 | NivFreak | so far |
| 01:05.06 | playfulkitten | Meh... guess it's better than bookmarking |
| 01:05.14 | Kilroo | NivFreak: I could be mistaken. What I was gathering was that there is no program I can currently use to download all the addons I want to use as a batch rather than doing it manually. |
| 01:05.19 | playfulkitten | I take it I will definitely have 50+ copies of various libs potentially? |
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| 01:05.26 | Kilroo | Sounds like I want whatever it is you are talking about, though. |
| 01:05.39 | NivFreak | Kilroo: the curse client is supposed to have premium access enable for all users at the moment |
| 01:05.47 | NivFreak | not sure when that stops |
| 01:05.52 | playfulkitten | What I had been doing, is checking for updates since I last updated, and just selecting what I needed. |
| 01:05.54 | WobWork | The issue is, that the current system is flawed |
| 01:06.08 | WobWork | One should not have to update an addon if all that has changed is a library |
| 01:06.09 | playfulkitten | Including libs independently of actual addons |
| 01:06.14 | playfulkitten | Agreed |
| 01:06.16 | NivFreak | WobWork: agreed |
| 01:06.33 | playfulkitten | And on the dev side, curse shouldn't have to repackage every single mod every time a lib updates |
| 01:06.34 | WobWork | And so, moving on to a tagging system (which is what we should have had initially) is simpler |
| 01:06.46 | playfulkitten | Tagging = good :) |
| 01:06.55 | Starinnia | right, so now, there will only be updates if the author wants to push one |
| 01:07.01 | Kilroo | goes looking for the Curse client for Linux |
| 01:07.02 | Starinnia | less updating ftw |
| 01:07.05 | WobWork | The majority of your addons won't be updated daily |
| 01:07.08 | NivFreak | Kilroo: el oh el |
| 01:07.13 | WobWork | (aside from Omen, cause Antiarc's a freak) |
| 01:07.31 | Starinnia | I thought Xinhuan was doing Omen3 |
| 01:07.35 | Kilroo | What? WUU worked natively in Linux. |
| 01:07.44 | Kilroo | Granted, that is a bit odd, since the game doesn't... |
| 01:07.49 | Tekkub | Omen won't update daily after 3.0 :P |
| 01:08.01 | Antiarc | Omen's just going to be a UI for 3.0, likely. |
| 01:08.02 | Kilroo | Curse needs better web developers, I see |
| 01:08.04 | Arrowmaster | omen hasnt been touch in like a month i bet |
| 01:08.14 | Kilroo | site doesn't degrade gracefully |
| 01:08.20 | NivFreak | Antiarc: wtb omen UI |
| 01:08.30 | Tekkub | define "degrade gracefully" :P |
| 01:08.32 | NivFreak | I'm using diamond threat meter in beta, not a big fan :) |
| 01:08.32 | Antiarc | wtb free time |
| 01:08.33 | Xinhuan | i have a early 3.0 version |
| 01:08.34 | Antiarc | I'll trade you |
| 01:08.40 | NivFreak | Antiarc: you can have all of my free time |
| 01:08.50 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: share? |
| 01:08.54 | Kilroo | It is not readily usable with Javascript disabled |
| 01:08.55 | Tekkub | if you're on IE6, fuck you... if you've disabled javascript, well you can just deal with it! |
| 01:08.57 | Xinhuan | later |
| 01:09.01 | Tekkub | note I'm NOT a curse dev |
| 01:09.06 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: <3 <3 |
| 01:09.11 | Xinhuan | its not quite ready yet |
| 01:09.19 | NivFreak | is it ever really ready? |
| 01:09.25 | Xinhuan | cos i started writing it from scratch like 2 days ago? |
| 01:09.30 | Xinhuan | its narely 500 lines of code |
| 01:09.37 | NivFreak | less is more |
| 01:09.38 | Xinhuan | that's how small the thing is |
| 01:09.42 | Kilroo | IE6 is a program that allows your computer to access the internet, and vice versa. |
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| 01:09.57 | Starinnia | IE6 makes baby Jesus cry |
| 01:10.07 | Kaelten | fewyn: ping |
| 01:10.14 | Tekkub | http://idroppedie6.com/ |
| 01:10.17 | Kilroo | I still think navigation methods that only work at all with JS enabled are sloppy though. |
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| 01:10.38 | Arrowmaster | Kilroo: what browser are you on? |
| 01:10.43 | Arrowmaster | they have CSS nav menus |
| 01:10.51 | Arrowmaster | that work without javascript |
| 01:10.56 | Kilroo | FTR, though, Tekkub, I'm a web application developer. IE8 is outdated as far as I'm concerned. |
| 01:11.05 | Arrowmaster | or atleast thats what they used on curseforge |
| 01:11.21 | VonhintenHOME` | IE8 is outdated? You mean IE7? |
| 01:11.29 | WobWork | Tekkub: 36 whole sites, eh? =) |
| 01:11.33 | Tekkub | I don't *know* if IE8 is outdated because I don't (and won't) test my stuff on IE |
| 01:11.35 | Kilroo | Arrowmaster: I am on Swiftweasel, and links with an href of javascript:void(0) don't do much with JS turned off. |
| 01:11.44 | Kilroo | VonhintenHOME`: No. I meant IE8. |
| 01:12.05 | Arrowmaster | Swiftweasel? |
| 01:12.10 | Kilroo | I will stop calling IE8 outdated when they make some decent progress on CSS3. |
| 01:12.21 | Ominous | god freshers week at uni is tiring, out clubbing 4 nights in a row and up at 8:30am every day for breakfast after getting back after 2am every night |
| 01:12.27 | Kilroo | Arrowmaster: Processor-optimized Firefox. |
| 01:13.00 | fewyn | Kaelten: pong |
| 01:13.14 | Kilroo | Good old Kaelten |
| 01:13.16 | WobWork | Ominous: You're getting old |
| 01:13.25 | NivFreak | I wonder why they nerfed enslave demon |
| 01:13.26 | playfulkitten | I agree w/ Kilroo... links to javascript:void(0) are horrible |
| 01:13.26 | Ominous | WobWork: i am 18 lol, not old |
| 01:13.34 | playfulkitten | I usually have JS turned on, but that's sloppy |
| 01:13.44 | Kilroo | If it weren't for KC-Items (at least, I think it was KC-Items) I'd probably still be using Discord... |
| 01:13.46 | Ominous | WobWork: atm aiming for 8 nights in a row :p |
| 01:13.52 | WobWork | Ominous: it's aaallll downhill from there! |
| 01:13.59 | Ominous | WobWork: dammit! |
| 01:14.23 | WobWork | Soon it'll be like: "Oh, Friday night eh? Pft, I'll go home and watch TV" |
| 01:14.30 | Ominous | lol |
| 01:14.31 | nocts|work | WobWork: No package yet? |
| 01:14.53 | Aens|Superiority | is there a web dkp system (eqdkp or ndkp or etc), that supports two attendance columns? One for the normal total events, but another column for raids actually participated in(not sitting)? |
| 01:14.55 | Ominous | WobWork: thh i am surprised i havent made any spelling mistakes yet considering how much i have had to drink atm |
| 01:15.06 | Ominous | as its 2:14am here atm |
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| 01:24.17 | NeoTron | Aens|Superiority: heh my hacked eqdkp has three. attendance, raid and standby >L |
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| 01:26.07 | Kilroo | Hmm. |
| 01:26.50 | Kilroo | Major fail for not being able to copy the link destination out of the See Addon Details link. |
| 01:27.51 | MoonWitch | Seerah: ping |
| 01:28.43 | MoonWitch | well darn |
| 01:29.37 | Aens|Superiority | NeoTron: Yeah. Going to do max bid = total dkp * actual raids attended |
| 01:30.13 | NeoTron | initially we had a system where DKP was adjusted so you could never get more credit from standby/attendance than a multiplier of your raid dkp |
| 01:30.28 | NeoTron | mainly to protect ourselves from the benchwarmer-gets-the-best-item syndrome |
| 01:30.50 | NeoTron | but a better soluition was not to have bad players on standby but kick them off instead :P |
| 01:32.55 | Kaelten | Funkeh`: you awake man? |
| 01:35.55 | Kaelten | we have forums! |
| 01:36.22 | MoonWitch | yes we do :P |
| 01:36.37 | netcurse | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=238978#post238978 |
| 01:36.40 | netcurse | imported_Kaelten |
| 01:36.42 | netcurse | lol:) |
| 01:36.45 | MoonWitch | though... |
| 01:36.56 | Aens|Superiority | NeoTron: i'd love to have a bench full of raiders who weren't bad. But you don't end up on the bench if you were good enough to be #1 |
| 01:40.27 | Kaelten | ya I'll be fixing that shortly |
| 01:40.28 | Kaelten | lol |
| 01:40.56 | fewyn | I say fewyn is the coolest and most awesomest person on earth. |
| 01:41.09 | fewyn | and Kaelten needs to merge accounts |
| 01:41.21 | Kaelten | lol |
| 01:42.44 | Jagobah | !! |
| 01:44.23 | Ominous | Kaelten: when i click forums i still get my old username appearing in the top left, when every other page says my new one |
| 01:44.31 | Ominous | top right* |
| 01:45.52 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 01:46.34 | Ominous | Kaelten: i will reset cache etc, just to make sure its not that |
| 01:47.17 | Ominous | nope |
| 01:47.24 | Ominous | still alastairbegley in the top corner |
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| 01:49.51 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 01:49.54 | Kaelten | we'll work it out |
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| 01:50.10 | ulic | what do about funky forum user linking, all my posts say imported_ulic. |
| 01:50.26 | Ominous | thanks, want me to post something and see if i post as ominous or alastairbegley? |
| 01:50.32 | Kaelten | sure |
| 01:50.33 | ulic | edit for proper english and puncuation :) |
| 01:50.45 | Kaelten | ulic there are a few people |
| 01:51.03 | WobWork | Ominous: Alastairbegley sounds more ominious =) |
| 01:51.29 | fewyn | youll have to merge those as people complain about them probably |
| 01:51.42 | Ominous | WobWork: lol, i am currently tired and drunk, things like that really confuse me :p |
| 01:51.43 | fewyn | since you imported into a preexisting install |
| 01:51.51 | Kaelten | ya there are a few that are off |
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| 01:52.48 | WobWork | AdjectiveAsAProperNoun: ProperNoun sounds more Adjectival |
| 01:53.01 | WobWork | helps out |
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| 01:53.14 | Ominous | Kaelten: the post appeared as alastairbegley |
| 01:53.31 | Kaelten | k we'll fix it don't worry :) |
| 01:53.34 | Ominous | :) |
| 01:54.14 | Ominous | wont be using the forums as much anymore as i am not busy with uni and also have tickets and comments on my project page |
| 01:54.22 | MoonWitch | lol turns out I am moonwitch23 >.< Quite funky |
| 01:54.30 | Ominous | s/am not busy/am busy |
| 01:54.44 | Kilroo | wow |
| 01:54.59 | Kilroo | this is moderately painful. |
| 01:55.26 | MoonWitch | yeah, to be honest, I am glad I am not doing the merging of (how many accounts?) |
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| 01:56.13 | Arrowmaster | i still get a redirect loop |
| 01:56.24 | Arrowmaster | =( |
| 01:56.25 | netcurse | i had this on IE |
| 01:56.28 | netcurse | not on FF |
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| 01:58.45 | Arrowmaster | MUAHAHAHA |
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| 01:59.06 | Arrowmaster | MUAHAHAHA |
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| 02:01.09 | netcurse | arrowmaster? |
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| 02:01.21 | Arrowmaster | new cloak |
| 02:01.34 | WobWork | eheh |
| 02:01.50 | Arrowmaster | Arrowmaster is n=Arrow@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ResponsibleForEverythingAndNothing/Arrowmaster * Arrowmaster |
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| 02:03.59 | Ominous | anyway i better "walk" to bed (nb: by walk i mean find something to hold onto and drag myself :P) |
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| 02:04.35 | Ominous | damn freshers (nb: i love it really) |
| 02:05.50 | Kilroo | interesting |
| 02:06.02 | Kilroo | WUU -does- still appear to be working |
| 02:06.14 | fewyn | because files.wowace.com still works |
| 02:06.15 | fewyn | for now |
| 02:06.20 | fewyn | its Frozen tho |
| 02:06.27 | Kilroo | Ahhh. |
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| 02:07.26 | Kilroo | Wonder how much I can get done while it still works. It certainly has a leg up on the curse client in terms of interface. And in terms of which addons it can find, at least at the moment. |
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| 02:08.17 | Jagobah | NeoTron: check your pm pls |
| 02:08.20 | Arrowmaster | nothing on there is going to get updated |
| 02:08.25 | Arrowmaster | since its 'frozen' |
| 02:08.41 | Kilroo | Logical enough |
| 02:09.07 | Hjalte | Kilroo: Afaik the Curse Client should be able to pick up the new wowace mods at some point. |
| 02:09.44 | Kilroo | but it's still more convenient to pull everything I want down with WUU for the time being, and switch to using the gimpy Curse thing later. |
| 02:10.52 | Kilroo | ...And Wowace was using a Quantserve script, so I just bit myself in the ass a few minutes ago and didn't realize it. Awesome. |
| 02:12.05 | MoonWitch | Kilroo: does it hurt? |
| 02:12.15 | Kilroo | Only my brain. |
| 02:12.23 | MoonWitch | giefs cookies |
| 02:13.00 | Kilroo | Oh well, so it's now twice as much trouble to decide which addon I want in a given category |
| 02:13.05 | Kilroo | I'll live. |
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| 02:17.33 | Seerah | I want cookies! |
| 02:17.51 | MoonWitch | Then cookies you shall have! |
| 02:17.52 | Starinnia | cupcakes > cookies |
| 02:18.03 | Seerah | mmmm |
| 02:18.06 | Seerah | cupcakes |
| 02:19.10 | WobWork | hm food |
| 02:19.17 | WobWork | I shall go to my favourite cafe |
| 02:19.23 | WobWork | and have breakfast for lunch |
| 02:19.28 | WobWork | mmm bacon |
| 02:19.39 | Seerah | hehe |
| 02:20.42 | MoonWitch | Where do you live Wob? |
| 02:21.06 | WobWork | Oz =) |
| 02:21.32 | MoonWitch | ah yes |
| 02:24.06 | Arrowmaster | looking at some of the recent forum posts... it seems some people dont realize that the forums are not wowace forums but shared with curseforge |
| 02:24.12 | Arrowmaster | pokes MoonWitch |
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| 02:24.54 | MoonWitch | pokes Arrowmaster back! |
| 02:25.28 | MoonWitch | I knew, but they would or vanish again, or merge into the ace ones :) |
| 02:26.41 | Arrowmaster | *shudder* guild members on vent talking about configuring DBM |
| 02:27.03 | Starinnia | they could be talking about configuring KTM... |
| 02:27.09 | Arrowmaster | even worse |
| 02:27.29 | Kaelten | lol |
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| 02:28.01 | Arrowmaster | i wish i could view the forums while logged in |
| 02:28.08 | Kaelten | me too |
| 02:28.46 | Arrowmaster | shale i keep trying to so you can look at the requests and figure out wtf is going on? |
| 02:30.05 | Parnic | phew, just got a few emails with a slew of updates on my own mods :P |
| 02:30.20 | Parnic | looks like a bunch of -nolib variations and old revs made it into the new site |
| 02:30.36 | Arrowmaster | that was intended i think |
| 02:30.57 | Arrowmaster | i fear what my email looks like since im a moderator and get emails every hour on the status of the queue |
| 02:30.59 | Parnic | i figured :) |
| 02:31.18 | Parnic | once syndication to curse is enabled, i'll be fit as a fiddle :) |
| 02:32.20 | Arrowmaster | 50+ emails from curseforge/wowace |
| 02:32.26 | Kaelten | lol |
| 02:32.28 | Kaelten | :) |
| 02:32.39 | Arrowmaster | and i have email notifications disabled! |
| 02:32.49 | Kaelten | we love you! |
| 02:33.23 | Arrowmaster | yes because im ResponsibleForEverythingAndNothing! |
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| 02:39.35 | Kilroo | Hmm. |
| 02:40.01 | Kilroo | I wonder if I was actually USING Infinibars the last time I was playing, or had just been trying it out and was actually still using Visor. |
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| 02:40.29 | Groktar | kj 3% last night |
| 02:40.36 | Groktar | and we just had wipe #5 on kalecgos |
| 02:40.38 | Groktar | sigh |
| 02:41.26 | Shefki | Entropus at 7% last night, we're working on Felmyst atm. Weeeee |
| 02:41.43 | Groktar | >< |
| 02:42.05 | Shefki | Took 3 tries each of Kalecgos and Brutallus tonight too. /sigh |
| 02:47.29 | MoonWitch | i need sleep |
| 02:52.24 | Cryect | Groktar, should try huggling KJ. I hear its his weakness! |
| 02:54.26 | Groktar | huggles |
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| 02:57.18 | Dashkal | Groktar....huggling.... |
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| 03:10.29 | KriLL3 | omg patch! |
| 03:10.54 | MoonWitch | i am going to say hi to dod for abit |
| 03:10.58 | MoonWitch | see yall tomorrow :) |
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| 03:41.22 | NeoTron | wonder if icy talons stack with imp icy talons yet |
| 03:43.00 | Groktar | holy huntards batman |
| 03:43.08 | Groktar | 2 over 2500 that brut |
| 03:44.39 | |Yssaril| | ckknight: is the packager not adding externals from .pkgmeta currently? check http://www.wowace.com/projects/yss-dark-pact/ |
| 03:45.01 | Fogger | what happened to the wiki? |
| 03:45.25 | Yssaril | Fogger: each project has its own now |
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| 03:49.21 | Fogger | Yssaril: I'm on the Project page for Ace3 but dont seem to find any info or documentation anywhere |
| 03:50.11 | Yssaril | Fogger: i am not sure that anything from the wiki was ported over (though Ace3 didnt really have much documentation wise to begin with) |
| 03:50.44 | Fogger | the "Hello Ace3" tutorial would suffice |
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| 03:54.04 | leech2k | .pkgmeta "externals" are working fine for me |
| 03:54.11 | Fogger | was located at: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace3_Addon |
| 03:54.52 | Fogger | mmm, google cache ftw :) |
| 03:55.25 | Yssaril | leech2k: what is your addon name so i can compare my pkgmeta file with yours |
| 03:56.40 | leech2k | dgks |
| 03:57.46 | Killmore | KJ DOWN ! w0000t |
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| 04:12.19 | Yssaril | leech2k: thanks it was imported with \ not / so i blame ckk :P |
| 04:12.30 | Yssaril | ckknight: nm figured it out |
| 04:15.02 | leech2k | Yssaril: ya the automagicly made .pgkmeta is not very functional |
| 04:15.29 | Yssaril | leech2k: yea had everything fixed exept that /cry |
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| 04:26.11 | orionshock | morning all |
| 04:26.55 | Legorol | Can someone who is more familiar with what's going on on wowace fill me in on this little detail: |
| 04:27.17 | Legorol | if someone was hosting a project on wowace before, what do they need to do to get started on the new site? |
| 04:27.32 | Groktar | it's still there |
| 04:27.36 | Legorol | presumably create a new project with their new account, and then somehow import the contents? |
| 04:27.58 | Groktar | what project? |
| 04:28.00 | Legorol | Groktar: ok, so the old SVN was mostly split up into separate projects? |
| 04:28.12 | Legorol | Groktar: i never had a project, I'm trying to compose a sort of FAQ |
| 04:28.17 | Groktar | o |
| 04:28.48 | Legorol | what would a typical author encounter who used to have an account on wowace and used to have a project on the old SVN? |
| 04:28.55 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 04v5.1 * r96 : Tagging as v5.1 |
| 04:29.05 | Arrowmaster | yay! 8/8 T6! |
| 04:29.09 | Groktar | grats! |
| 04:29.15 | Groktar | only has 6/8 |
| 04:29.17 | Wobin | Legorol: kinda |
| 04:29.28 | Wobin | Basically they need to 'take control' of the project now on curseforge |
| 04:29.38 | Groktar | on curseforge? |
| 04:29.39 | Groktar | wat |
| 04:29.42 | Legorol | I understand that a lot of them are now showing up as owned by "wowaceSVN" |
| 04:29.45 | Wobin | wowaceforge? |
| 04:29.52 | Legorol | on www.wowace.com, Wobin |
| 04:29.59 | Wobin | same diff =P |
| 04:30.04 | Groktar | wowace is separate from curseforge |
| 04:30.13 | Legorol | Groktar: so is that the recommended course of action? login with your account, and claim the project if it's owned by wowaceSVN? |
| 04:30.14 | Wobin | yes, that's the 'default' account from the conversion |
| 04:30.21 | Groktar | they just happen to run on the same framework and syndicate to curse |
| 04:30.23 | Groktar | ^ |
| 04:30.41 | Wobin | It tries to link to a current curse account by email |
| 04:30.45 | Groktar | to take control of your project you need to bug nevcairiel, Arrowmaster, Kaelten, or ckknight |
| 04:30.54 | Wobin | if it's in the toc |
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| 04:31.25 | Arrowmaster | 'tried' |
| 04:31.33 | Arrowmaster | that was only during the inital import |
| 04:33.04 | Groktar | by imported_Kaelten |
| 04:33.04 | Groktar | hehe |
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| 04:36.18 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r97 .pkgmeta: |
| 04:36.18 | Repo | socd, patch trunk .pkgmeta with proper externals to Ace3 stuff |
| 04:36.18 | Kaelten | imported_kaelten should be merged in to my main account now :s |
| 04:39.07 | Groktar | too bad, i liked that guy |
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| 04:39.52 | Kaelten | lol |
| 04:39.54 | Kaelten | :P |
| 04:41.52 | Groktar | :D |
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| 04:55.59 | Repo | 10yss-dark-pact: 03yssaril * r43 / (2 files in 1 directory): removed embeds.xml |
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| 05:12.04 | HunterZ0 | is there a new RSS feed for wowace commits? |
| 05:13.29 | Kaelten | HunterZ0: not quite yet, but we will |
| 05:14.08 | Fisker- | why so batshit retarded blizzard? |
| 05:14.25 | Kaelten | Fisker-: they must want to be like you |
| 05:14.27 | HunterZ0 | Kaelten: kk |
| 05:14.56 | Groktar | boggles at Fisker- |
| 05:14.58 | Fisker- | in that case, they're doing great |
| 05:14.59 | Groktar | where did that come from, lol |
| 05:15.25 | Fisker- | Divine Plea changed to : You gain 25% of your total mana over 15 sec (Old - 10 sec), but the amount healed by your spells is reduced by 100%. (Old - 50%) |
| 05:15.28 | Fisker- | "yay" |
| 05:15.41 | Fisker- | "Glyph of Flash of Light - Your Flash of Light heals for 50% less initially, but also heals for 140% (down from 200%) of its inital effect over 15 sec." |
| 05:15.41 | Groktar | hunh |
| 05:15.42 | Fisker- | "yay" |
| 05:15.56 | Fisker- | We're probably the only ones to have a glyph that doesn't even break even |
| 05:15.58 | Groktar | who would want that? |
| 05:15.59 | Fisker- | it's not even remotely useful |
| 05:16.10 | Fisker- | and it's worse than it's original effect |
| 05:16.33 | Groktar | mm, looks to me like it should come out to be more healing overall |
| 05:16.46 | Fisker- | it doesn't |
| 05:17.13 | Fisker- | Atleast not how it works |
| 05:17.23 | Groktar | o? start with a 1k flash -- glyph would make that 500 initially and then 700 over time |
| 05:17.23 | Groktar | for 1200 total? |
| 05:17.29 | Fisker- | My friend |
| 05:17.34 | Fisker- | The hot resets each time you use it |
| 05:17.37 | Groktar | ew |
| 05:17.40 | Groktar | vomits |
| 05:17.53 | Fisker- | Yeah |
| 05:17.54 | Groktar | i guess if it ticks once every second |
| 05:17.58 | Fisker- | Blizzard are retarded like that >:3 |
| 05:18.34 | Groktar | it's like regrowth only terrible! |
| 05:19.11 | Fisker- | Beacon of light is so laughable |
| 05:19.22 | Fisker- | If you overheal it won't heal your beacon of light |
| 05:19.35 | Groktar | glyph of healing touch is sexy |
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| 05:19.41 | Fisker- | I would lol if they did that to chain heal aka i am a n00b heal |
| 05:19.50 | Groktar | 2 second hts? |
| 05:20.00 | Fisker- | "Oh your first heal on the chain healed for 0, fuck you you won't get to heal anyone else" |
| 05:22.07 | Groktar | do pallies get a baseline aoe heal? |
| 05:22.20 | Groktar | i don't see one in the holy tree anywhere |
| 05:22.43 | HunterZ0 | Pallies don't have any multi-target heals except for Beacon of Light I think |
| 05:23.49 | Groktar | i guess it might be kinda funny in pvp |
| 05:24.05 | Groktar | put it on yourself, hide behind a pillar, and spam flash |
| 05:24.41 | Groktar | mmm, pillars |
| 05:24.47 | Groktar | humps the nearest one wildly |
| 05:25.41 | Fisker- | nah Groktar! |
| 05:25.47 | Fisker- | Cause overheal = lol you got pwnt |
| 05:27.19 | Groktar | oic |
| 05:28.07 | Fisker- | Though it's interesting |
| 05:28.18 | Fisker- | Holy Paladins are already pretty bad in arena |
| 05:28.28 | Fisker- | no mobility, no hots, no nothing |
| 05:28.36 | Groktar | looks to me that paladins will be significantly less useful to a group relative to any of the other healing classes |
| 05:28.42 | Fisker- | Though we have a shield but we can't even use a hearthstone |
| 05:29.08 | Fisker- | They pretty much already are, especially now when they don't want buffs to stack |
| 05:29.38 | Groktar | ya, only unique one is kings? |
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| 05:29.51 | Fisker- | It's already pretty annoying getting taunted from being in the bottom of the healing meter on bloodboil |
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| 05:31.07 | Groktar | oh well, maybe ret dps will be good enough that you can get into raids that way! |
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| 05:31.52 | Fisker- | Well i rolled Paladin because i didn't want to go DPS |
| 05:32.02 | Repo | 10yss-dark-pact: 03yssaril * r44 .pkgmeta: .pkgmeta fixed libsink's svn name |
| 05:32.11 | Fisker- | but i guess you're right |
| 05:32.14 | Elgren | Groktar |
| 05:32.16 | Fisker- | Tanking isn't me >:E |
| 05:32.17 | Elgren | you are a orc? |
| 05:33.05 | Groktar | night elf! |
| 05:33.09 | Elgren | :) |
| 05:33.25 | Elgren | I am Tauren! |
| 05:34.47 | Groktar | wait, what happened to instant cast holy light? |
| 05:34.54 | Groktar | infusion of light is only 1 second? |
| 05:34.59 | Arrowmaster | Yssaril: what are you using for libsinks name now? |
| 05:35.19 | Diao | yeah it got nerfed :( |
| 05:35.25 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: you renamed it from lib-sink to libsink :P |
| 05:35.33 | Arrowmaster | just checking |
| 05:35.58 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/projects/?search=lib- |
| 05:35.59 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/projects/?search=-lib |
| 05:36.00 | Arrowmaster | =D |
| 05:36.42 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: btw is the embeds.xml going away since the new packanger can clear embeds straigth out of the toc? |
| 05:36.58 | Arrowmaster | it can? |
| 05:37.23 | Yssaril | yar |
| 05:38.02 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/repository-keyword-substitutions/#w_no-lib-replacements |
| 05:46.50 | Xinhuan | hmm hello |
| 05:47.03 | Xinhuan | how do i fix this "xinhuan" and "xinhuan2" on the forums? lol |
| 05:48.06 | Fisker- | why so lollious? |
| 05:48.32 | Industrial | why so alive |
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| 05:50.21 | Groktar | i hear xinhuan2 is cooler than xinhuan |
| 05:50.44 | Groktar | and Xinhuan is out to steal his glory |
| 05:50.53 | Xinhuan | ~_~ |
| 05:50.54 | purl | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 05:51.01 | Groktar | ~ |
| 05:51.10 | Groktar | questions purl |
| 05:52.26 | Groktar | Ghost is out for the rest of the evening so I thought I would make a quick post regarding a new warrior change. Berserker Rage will now be usable in all stances. |
| 05:52.27 | Groktar | hax |
| 05:56.49 | [Wobin] | They should totally rename it |
| 05:56.57 | [Wobin] | to screwstance rage |
| 05:57.05 | Groktar | hehe |
| 05:57.13 | [Wobin] | or maybe HugznKittenz Rage |
| 05:57.40 | Groktar | that one sounds intimidating~! |
| 05:59.40 | Groktar | this guy is always popping into my channel on another server -> http://gizmodo.com/photogallery/lhcspam2/1001580881 |
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| 05:59.55 | Groktar | spends 10 minutes spamming links and incoherent nonsense |
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| 06:01.40 | [Wobin] | Groktar: That's nothing |
| 06:01.47 | [Wobin] | There used to be this weirdo |
| 06:01.54 | [Wobin] | That randomly logged into our vent channel |
| 06:02.03 | [Wobin] | yelled "DO YOU LIKE RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE?!?" |
| 06:02.09 | [Wobin] | then play some random RATM |
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| 06:02.51 | Groktar | hmm |
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| 06:02.58 | Groktar | apparently i have a registration hold for next semester |
| 06:02.59 | Fisker- | farts |
| 06:03.04 | Fisker- | |>3 |
| 06:03.05 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 06:03.12 | Groktar | blames Fisker- |
| 06:03.53 | Groktar | was really weird the way it showed up, too |
| 06:03.59 | Groktar | like a bill |
| 06:05.51 | Fisker- | :)? |
| 06:06.16 | Groktar | some nonsense about meeting with an advisor |
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| 06:17.57 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10544540440&sid=2000&pageNo=2#29 <-great observation |
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| 06:27.08 | Repo | 10sraidframesindicators: 03Nevcairiel * r27 sRaidFramesIndicators.toc: update .toc |
| 06:27.49 | nevcairiel | Anyone in here getting a "gap" in the login-info box in the new ace forums? |
| 06:27.56 | nevcairiel | trying to fix the bug, but i dont get it myself :X |
| 06:28.29 | Groktar | looks |
| 06:28.31 | Nargiddley | I think I saw that |
| 06:28.50 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 06:28.59 | Groktar | what am i looking for? |
| 06:29.11 | nevcairiel | top right corner, where it says your username |
| 06:29.14 | nevcairiel | if there is a gap |
| 06:29.28 | Nargiddley | about 1/5th of the login box is blank, your name isn't flush with the left |
| 06:30.03 | nevcairiel | does it say "Your notifications" or "Private Messages" ? |
| 06:30.30 | Nargiddley | above the box ?, Private Messages |
| 06:30.43 | Groktar | i see groktar Private Messages Log Out |
| 06:30.45 | Nargiddley | hmm wait, this is the search not login |
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| 06:31.14 | Groktar | screenshot with offending gap circled please |
| 06:31.14 | Nargiddley | I think i'm seeing a different thing |
| 06:31.18 | nevcairiel | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/e92b3f0078dfa7957f7127d20f8b64df.png |
| 06:31.22 | WobWork | I have Private Messages |
| 06:31.25 | nevcairiel | its pretty obvious |
| 06:31.32 | Groktar | hunh |
| 06:31.40 | nevcairiel | see how the "Out" has not the background |
| 06:31.52 | Nargiddley | Not seeing that |
| 06:32.41 | Groktar | ok, i send myself a pm and now it says Your Notifications |
| 06:32.44 | Groktar | but no gap |
| 06:33.05 | nevcairiel | how did Kaelten manage to get that ga |
| 06:33.07 | nevcairiel | gap |
| 06:33.09 | Groktar | tries ie |
| 06:34.41 | Groktar | no gap in ie, but the popup appears underneath the bars below it |
| 06:35.10 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 06:35.12 | nevcairiel | thats IE for ya |
| 06:35.31 | nevcairiel | fixes |
| 06:35.50 | Groktar | OH |
| 06:36.09 | Groktar | nm, that's not it |
| 06:36.28 | WobWork | =( |
| 06:36.35 | WobWork | Groktar: Raiser Of False Hopes |
| 06:38.44 | Groktar | usually, if i can't reproduce it by now |
| 06:38.52 | Groktar | i tell my users their browser is borked |
| 06:40.28 | Groktar | mm, tasty |
| 06:40.29 | Groktar | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1065209/Meet-deer-little-handful-called-Rupert-delivered-Caesarean-section-mother-killed-car.html |
| 06:41.45 | Nargiddley | nevcairiel, happens in safari for me |
| 06:42.34 | Groktar | that's ur problem! |
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| 06:42.52 | Nargiddley | I thought the ss looked like safari so I tried it |
| 06:43.15 | Groktar | Nargiddley: go to my guild's web site using safari |
| 06:43.20 | Groktar | www.guild-impulse.net |
| 06:43.56 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, for my existing svn checkouts, i just need to "relocate" to the new url? |
| 06:44.30 | Arrowmaster | fucking squiril threw an acorn at me! |
| 06:44.39 | Groktar | welcome to pvp s0n |
| 06:44.41 | Xinhuan | throw it back! |
| 06:45.20 | Groktar | infects his computer with safari |
| 06:45.25 | Arrowmaster | it ran away! |
| 06:45.33 | Arrowmaster | it did it again! then ran away! |
| 06:45.35 | Groktar | lulz it's a druid |
| 06:45.52 | Groktar | don't let it go ooc or it will fly away |
| 06:46.09 | Arrowmaster | its not a druid its a woodland squirel! |
| 06:46.10 | Repo | 10arl: 03Zhinjio 06wotlk-branch * r884 : AckisRecipeList: |
| 06:46.11 | Repo | - fixed svn:externals |
| 06:46.28 | Arrowmaster | it did it again!! |
| 06:46.34 | Groktar | offers to let Arrowmaster borrow the shotgun |
| 06:47.17 | Groktar | hmm, how do i keep new windows from stealing focus again? |
| 06:48.24 | Repo | 10arl: 03Zhinjio 06wotlk-branch * r885 : AckisRecipeList: |
| 06:48.24 | Repo | - fixing externals (redux) |
| 06:51.01 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: you do know that externals arent used by the packager right? |
| 06:52.02 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: and change your tsvn:logtemplate, you dont the AckisRecipeList: anymore and can cut your messages down to a single line |
| 06:52.18 | Groktar | www.guild-impulse.net/images/site_safari.jpg |
| 06:52.22 | Groktar | www.guild-impulse.net/images/site_firefox.jpg |
| 06:52.42 | Groktar | i ended up giving up on it after deciding that it was really a clever way to filter mac users |
| 06:54.24 | Groktar | blames Fisker- |
| 06:54.54 | Funkeh` | Fisker-, Im going to oblitirate you |
| 06:55.13 | Groktar | Funkeh`: may i help? |
| 06:55.23 | Funkeh` | no |
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| 06:55.35 | Groktar | obliterates Fisker- instead |
| 06:56.41 | mitch0 | gah |
| 06:56.52 | mitch0 | why did the old releases come to life on the new site? |
| 06:57.40 | ckknight | ? |
| 06:58.21 | mitch0 | yesterday I only had an alpha release under files, now I see like 50+ beta releases (presumable some import from the old files.wowace.com) |
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| 06:58.25 | *** mode/#wowace [+v WobWork] by ChanServ |
| 06:58.59 | Groktar | thinks WobWork needs better interwebs |
| 06:59.22 | WobWork | inorite? |
| 06:59.26 | WobWork | stupid work wireless |
| 06:59.30 | Kuja^ | guess we only need one bot in #wowuidev-commits or the bots need to be reconfigured Repo and CIA are posting the same things currently |
| 06:59.33 | Groktar | hehe, once i said interwebs when i was doing phone tech support |
| 06:59.37 | Groktar | and got QA'd |
| 06:59.42 | Groktar | they didn't like it much :( |
| 06:59.55 | Kuja^ | lol Groktar |
| 07:00.04 | WobWork | my friend just used the verb 'ninja' at her new work at MSN |
| 07:00.10 | Groktar | haha |
| 07:00.24 | WobWork | Her second day =P |
| 07:00.48 | Funkeh` | damn wow addicts |
| 07:00.48 | Groktar | i'd been there like 5 months when i did this |
| 07:00.59 | Funkeh` | well studies time, cya |
| 07:01.20 | Groktar | i probably should have rebelled and said it every single time |
| 07:01.25 | Groktar | because i ended up quitting, anyway |
| 07:01.41 | Groktar | and by quit i mean stopped showing up to work one day without saying anything |
| 07:01.47 | WobWork | Groktar: And you may as well have gonoe out while having fun! |
| 07:02.11 | Groktar | hehe |
| 07:02.21 | Groktar | in retrospect, i should have resigned properly |
| 07:02.32 | Groktar | because it was a bitch to cash out my vacation/sick leave |
| 07:02.46 | Xinhuan | the ace3 on wowace now, doesn't have any branches yeah? |
| 07:05.32 | Elkano | branches haven't been imported to the new repositories iirc |
| 07:06.21 | Arrowmaster | somebody had a proper dump of ace3 that was suppost to be imported though |
| 07:06.41 | nevcairiel | it was imported now |
| 07:07.02 | Arrowmaster | so ace3 does have branches then |
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| 07:08.52 | Xinhuan | how do you view the branch URLs? |
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| 07:11.10 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 07:11.17 | Arrowmaster | branches are the same as normal |
| 07:11.45 | Arrowmaster | svn.wowace.com/wow/ace3/mainline/branches/ or so |
| 07:12.03 | Arrowmaster | should be what an RC1 branch right? |
| 07:12.16 | Arrowmaster | svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/ace3/mainline/branches/RC1/ |
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| 07:13.54 | Repo | 10arl: 03Zhinjio 06wotlk-branch * r886 / (27 files in 4 directories): AckisRecipeList: |
| 07:13.55 | Repo | - first push |
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| 07:14.40 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: is that a branch or a fork? |
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| 07:26.20 | neenee | Morning |
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| 07:32.18 | Repo | 10omen: 03Nevcairiel * r3 .pkgmeta: Add externals to .pkgmeta |
| 07:32.53 | Repo | 10omen: 03Nevcairiel 042.0.3 * r4 : Tagging as 2.0.3. |
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| 07:34.46 | sylvanaar | quick whats the macro to press an action buttno |
| 07:35.00 | nevcairiel | ./click <name> |
| 07:35.02 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 07:35.14 | Kalroth | clicks nevcairiel. |
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| 07:39.17 | Repo | 10arl: 03Zhinjio 06wotlk-branch * r887 : AckisRecipeList: |
| 07:39.17 | Repo | - externals fix attempt |
| 07:40.08 | Arrowmaster | wtf omen on r4? |
| 07:40.10 | Arrowmaster | thats not right |
| 07:40.18 | Xinhuan | hmm uploading an avatar to my wowace profile didn't work |
| 07:40.37 | Arrowmaster | is it png? |
| 07:40.41 | Xinhuan | no its a jpg |
| 07:40.58 | Xinhuan | i don't mean the forum avatar |
| 07:41.03 | Xinhuan | i mean the author profile |
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| 07:42.04 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know |
| 07:42.11 | Arrowmaster | i havent even seen the forums since i cant |
| 07:42.26 | Xinhuan | forums works fine i think |
| 07:43.09 | Repo | 10atlas-loot: 03Daviesh * r1620 .pkgmeta: AtlasLoot: |
| 07:43.10 | Repo | - Fixed externals |
| 07:43.58 | Arrowmaster | wtb precommit hook to make these people remove their damn tsvn:logtemplate's |
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| 07:44.37 | Daviesh | Yeah, I am still cleaning up. |
| 07:44.43 | Vulcanus | what's wrong with logtemplates? |
| 07:44.44 | Shefki | Ohh that reminds me. |
| 07:45.02 | Shefki | I need to clean up some crap I put on r0 of one of my repo to import from another repo. |
| 07:45.10 | mitch0 | arrow: the AtlasLoot: prefix thing? |
| 07:45.16 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 07:45.20 | Xinhuan | well the logtemplate was required in the old svn |
| 07:45.36 | Xinhuan | or rather, the old precommit hook required the comment to have it |
| 07:45.44 | Arrowmaster | logtemplate was not, having the commit message start with the project name was |
| 07:45.48 | mitch0 | arrow: you could remove that with a precommit hook without bothering the authors :) |
| 07:45.55 | Arrowmaster | actually you cant |
| 07:45.59 | Vulcanus | fucking great... I have 81 imported users to merge now :( |
| 07:46.02 | Daviesh | Yeah, maybe that is something that could have been ditched in the migration, but it is a simple change |
| 07:46.25 | Shefki | I'm pretty sure you can alter revprops in hooks. |
| 07:46.26 | Arrowmaster | yeah its something that should have been cleaned out during the dump filters |
| 07:46.45 | Shefki | But it's been way too long. |
| 07:46.48 | Arrowmaster | im perty sure you cant since it wouldnt actually update it on the client sending it |
| 07:47.00 | Vulcanus | Does nobody care about my pains? :( |
| 07:47.08 | mitch0 | not really |
| 07:47.10 | mitch0 | :) |
| 07:47.11 | Arrowmaster | Vulcanus: fix the forums |
| 07:47.18 | Vulcanus | What's wrong with them? |
| 07:47.21 | Arrowmaster | Vulcanus: redirect loop |
| 07:47.23 | Repo | 10arl: 03Zhinjio 06wotlk-branch * r888 / (2 files in 1 directory): AckisRecipeList: |
| 07:47.23 | Repo | - another externals fix attempt |
| 07:47.24 | Vulcanus | ffs |
| 07:47.35 | Arrowmaster | ~lart Zhinjio |
| 07:47.35 | purl | cats /dev/urandom into Zhinjio's ear |
| 07:47.48 | Zhinjio | mmmmm, tasty |
| 07:47.58 | Vulcanus | well I cant do much more about the auth plugin, try clearing your cookies and logging in again :p |
| 07:47.59 | Arrowmaster | Vulcanus: i havent been able to get to the forums while logged in |
| 07:48.06 | Arrowmaster | Vulcanus: i have, all day |
| 07:48.14 | Vulcanus | well its still your fault :p |
| 07:48.21 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 07:48.32 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 07:48.36 | Zhinjio | excellent. that worked. |
| 07:48.37 | Zhinjio | sweet |
| 07:48.42 | Shefki | Ahh tsvn:logtemplate isn't actually a revprop... Bad Tortoise bad... |
| 07:48.58 | Xinhuan | well those properties aren't limited |
| 07:49.00 | Vulcanus | I dunno what else I can do with the curse auth plugin tbh, I do however need to merge these 81 imported users with their respective counterparts |
| 07:49.08 | Xinhuan | i could commit a property that says xin:huan |
| 07:49.09 | Vulcanus | though tbh its hella less than the 35k I was expecting |
| 07:49.10 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 07:49.17 | mitch0 | arrow: I meant modifying the actual log message in the pre-commit hook, not removing the tsvn:logtemplate thing |
| 07:49.21 | Shefki | Xinhuan: I'm perfeclty aware of that. |
| 07:49.57 | Repo | 10simple-self-rebuff: 03Adirelle * r176 / (3 files in 1 directory): Found a better way not to try to load module in packages. |
| 07:50.18 | mitch0 | arrow: but to be honest, it doesn't really _hurt_ that the commit log mentions the addon name... |
| 07:50.36 | Arrowmaster | being multiline instead of single does |
| 07:50.48 | Shefki | mitch0: It's entirely unnecessary now though. |
| 07:50.58 | Xinhuan | depends on whether the logtemplate included a \n in it or not |
| 07:51.07 | mitch0 | arrow: well, then just sed it out... |
| 07:51.08 | Arrowmaster | and some log message systems show the first line only |
| 07:51.14 | Arrowmaster | as a preview |
| 07:51.26 | mitch0 | I'm pretty sure it can be done |
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| 07:51.42 | Shefki | Probably would be pretty trivial to nuke all the tsvn:logtemplates out with a script. |
| 07:51.58 | Arrowmaster | a dump filter yes |
| 07:52.05 | Arrowmaster | but running that now is not trivial at all |
| 07:52.05 | Xinhuan | it would be trivial, but it would also force everyone to do a checkout update |
| 07:52.23 | Xinhuan | and it would require a new revision number because something did change ;p |
| 07:52.26 | Shefki | Just an svn up that would be unlikely to cause a conflict since it's just a prop change. |
| 07:52.33 | Shefki | Unless they locally edited that property. |
| 07:52.48 | mitch0 | I still feel nobody understands me :( |
| 07:52.50 | Xinhuan | a prop change forces svn to be unable to commit |
| 07:53.01 | Arrowmaster | its something that only could have been done before the repos were opened |
| 07:53.02 | Shefki | Xinhuan: Do a who on me. |
| 07:53.23 | Xinhuan | and? |
| 07:54.18 | Shefki | Xinhuan: A new rev is not a fatal error. It just forces you to do an update. I don't see what the issue is. Aren't most of these projects used to more than one person being able to commit and having to do svn up before they commit? |
| 07:54.37 | Xinhuan | i'm not saying its a problem |
| 07:54.43 | Xinhuan | i merely said it would force an update |
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| 07:55.09 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if they nuked the svk:* properties i told them to |
| 07:56.08 | Shefki | disclaims any responsiblity for svk despite having helped write the Perl bindings for SVN> |
| 07:57.03 | Arrowmaster | the svk properties should have never made it onto the old svn but they did |
| 07:59.42 | Shefki | I have to say it's so much nicer with the split up repos. Operations don't take forever now. |
| 08:00.10 | Daviesh | Yeah, it is definitely more speedy |
| 08:00.19 | Arrowmaster | theyre even faster if you switch your repo over to git |
| 08:00.43 | Shefki | I'm a tad biased on that front. |
| 08:00.55 | Daviesh | Then I would have to re-train my monkeys! |
| 08:00.57 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 08:01.01 | Lanerra | Arrowmaster, are you still having trouble getting onto the forums? |
| 08:01.09 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 08:01.17 | Lanerra | Alrighty, just double-checking :) |
| 08:01.24 | Arrowmaster | you? |
| 08:01.33 | Lanerra | Yup |
| 08:01.44 | Lanerra | Still giving me the loop |
| 08:02.10 | Lanerra | You guys ever find out what it is, or is it simply an artifact of the migration? |
| 08:02.29 | Arrowmaster | some where |
| 08:02.35 | Arrowmaster | seems theres multiple bugs |
| 08:02.50 | Lanerra | Ah. Is it only a select few who are stuck in the loop, or is it everyone? |
| 08:02.52 | Repo | 10atlas-loot: 03Daviesh * r1621 / (86 files in 9 directories): |
| 08:02.53 | Repo | Consolidate all AtlasLoot components into one project using 'move-folders' in the .pkgmeta file |
| 08:02.54 | Repo | 10wowace-bank-list: 03Adirelle * r55 BankList.toc: Updated TOC regarding licence. |
| 08:02.57 | Arrowmaster | select few |
| 08:03.14 | Lanerra | That is odd... |
| 08:03.25 | Arrowmaster | if i logout i can get to the forums |
| 08:04.06 | Shefki | Wonder how much in the way of problems not preserving the revisions is going to have. Though I understand why you didn't. 80k empty revisions would kinda suck. |
| 08:04.23 | Repo | 10cast-yeller: 03Adirelle * r167 CastYeller.toc: Updated TOC category. |
| 08:04.39 | Arrowmaster | lots of problems |
| 08:04.50 | Lanerra | Yup, same here. I can see forums when logged out. I wonder if it futzes up if you log in while looking at the forums? |
| 08:04.55 | Arrowmaster | but 80k empty revisions was just impossible to do |
| 08:05.01 | Arrowmaster | it does |
| 08:05.07 | Arrowmaster | also not working in IE for me |
| 08:05.09 | Lanerra | Yup, it does...damn |
| 08:05.24 | Arrowmaster | hmm i wonder, think ill go try IE on a different computer |
| 08:05.46 | Xinhuan | i don't think having 2 or 3 digit revision numbers will be an issue ;p |
| 08:06.38 | Shefki | Xinhuan: Anyone using the rev numbers as their version numbers is going to have some issues though. |
| 08:06.49 | Xinhuan | hmmmmmmmm |
| 08:07.02 | Xinhuan | only if the code directly references those revision numbers |
| 08:07.04 | Xinhuan | i think |
| 08:07.20 | Shefki | Updaters... |
| 08:07.42 | Xinhuan | its well known in advance the new wowace would break all updaters though |
| 08:07.53 | Lanerra | Arrowmaster, maybe there was a glitch with certain users when the import happened? |
| 08:08.33 | Shefki | THe solution is to simply make your version number be something like 90000 + your rev in the repo now. |
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| 08:09.01 | Arrowmaster | Vulcanus: i even tried in a completely different browser on a different computer and it didnt work, it has to be a problem with my account |
| 08:09.28 | Lanerra | Yeah, that's what I was just thinking. Some users got corrupted or something in the transfer |
| 08:09.51 | Lanerra | Is it limited to users who had both a wowace forum account, and a curse account? Or does it seem to be purely random? |
| 08:09.54 | Arrowmaster | i had posted on the curseforge forums before the import and now all my posts on there are from guest |
| 08:11.06 | Xinhuan | i got Kaelten to merge them successfully |
| 08:11.41 | Adirelle | I had two accounts on curse, an old one I want to forget and a new one I'm using, all my wowace posts have been imported with my old account |
| 08:11.55 | Adirelle | Xinhuan: so Kaelten can do this... |
| 08:12.03 | Xinhuan | i would hope so |
| 08:12.22 | Shefki | Maybe we should have added an option to svnadmin to create a repo that started at a certain rev number that didn't have empty revs for the revs before that. Just an empty r0 and the server could just create an in memory empty rev if anyone requested anything from the revs from 1-n |
| 08:12.36 | Shefki | That would have let you guys keep rev numbers without the overhead. |
| 08:12.39 | Vulcanus | Arrowmaster: Once I get home we can do some moar debugging, for now I can't do much |
| 08:12.44 | Vulcanus | be about 6 hours |
| 08:12.52 | Xinhuan | i think that makes things more complicated than it needs to be |
| 08:13.27 | Arrowmaster | Vulcanus: ill probably be asleep in 6 hours |
| 08:13.44 | Xinhuan | also, git doesn't use revision numbers, any updater of sorts would need to handle all repo types |
| 08:13.48 | Xinhuan | not just svn |
| 08:13.50 | Vulcanus | bah XD |
| 08:14.15 | Vulcanus | what about 4? XD |
| 08:14.31 | Shefki | Xinhuan: Sure but git uses hashes that you can't even try to use as version numbers that would imply any sort of relationship between two versions. |
| 08:14.32 | Arrowmaster | yeah ill probably be up then |
| 08:14.59 | Vulcanus | kk, I have Agent Systems class then, which I cant pay attention to regardless XD |
| 08:15.37 | Shefki | Xinhuan: So that would never be an issue in the first place, since nobody would ever try to use those hashes that way. |
| 08:15.45 | Xinhuan | yeah what i meant was updaters would need a different way of identifying which revision is "more recent" |
| 08:15.45 | Xinhuan | can't use rev numbers |
| 08:15.45 | Xinhuan | timestamps would just make the most sense to me |
| 08:16.04 | Xinhuan | to me, updaters just need to be updated :) |
| 08:16.06 | Shefki | Xinhuan: Timestamps would be better assuming you have accurate timestamps. |
| 08:16.07 | Arrowmaster | timestamps always made more sense |
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| 08:16.49 | Shefki | Which is why my version numbers are something like so: YYYYMMDD-rXXXX |
| 08:17.06 | Shefki | Then even if my rev numbers change for some reason the date stamp is still valid. |
| 08:17.56 | [SW]Dodge | Shefki: new svn repo = new rev number? :) |
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| 08:18.50 | Repo | 10atlas-loot: 03Daviesh * r1622 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fixed missing library from .pkgmeta |
| 08:19.21 | Shefki | Sorry, I'm just thinking outload. The consequences of the change in rev numbers is interesting to me becauese you guys have probably just done one of the largest repo splits I've ever seen. |
| 08:19.47 | Arrowmaster | one repo to 1600+ repos |
| 08:19.56 | Arrowmaster | although only trunk was moved |
| 08:20.03 | [SW]Dodge | yea that was a _BIG_ change ;) |
| 08:20.17 | Shefki | Though the biggest migration that was ever done was the gcc CVS -> SVN migration. |
| 08:20.20 | [SW]Dodge | yay feral druid buff |
| 08:20.30 | Shefki | Since they brought all their history with them from CVS and imported it in SVN. |
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| 08:21.55 | Shefki | Well at least the biggest somewhat public conversion. THere may have been bigger/messier conversions done that I'm unaware of. |
| 08:22.09 | Shefki | Wonder if Mozilla ever moved to Mecurial like they planed. |
| 08:22.17 | [SW]Dodge | Shefki: they copied a lot of history too ^^ |
| 08:22.21 | Arrowmaster | they planed to? |
| 08:22.44 | Vulcanus | w00t only 44 users left |
| 08:22.50 | Arrowmaster | i thought they were sticking with svn forever since quite a few people in mozilla work for svn |
| 08:22.54 | Shefki | I almost took a job with Mozilla as a build engineer migrating them from CVS to something else. |
| 08:22.54 | Repo | 10atlas-loot: 03Daviesh 04v4.06.04-TestBeta * r1623 : Tagging as v4.06.04-TestBeta. |
| 08:23.16 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Actually except for newer projects Mozilla was on CVS. |
| 08:23.28 | Shefki | They had a handful of new stuff on SVN that never existed in CVS. |
| 08:23.34 | Lanerra | 44 users left for what, Vulcanus? |
| 08:23.39 | Shefki | At the time they were thinking Mercurial. |
| 08:23.49 | Vulcanus | merging imported_<username> into <username> on WoWAce forums |
| 08:24.23 | Shefki | Yup Mozilla is using Mercurial now. |
| 08:24.34 | Vulcanus | its those people who used different emails for curse.com and wowace.com/forums |
| 08:24.46 | Lanerra | Ah, I see. Thanks for the work, then :) |
| 08:25.57 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: And as far as SVN people goes. As far as I know nobody working at Mozilla is a committer on SVN or ever has been. |
| 08:26.10 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Lots of SVN people went to Google at one point. |
| 08:26.22 | Arrowmaster | maybe it was a different project i was thinking of then |
| 08:26.45 | Arrowmaster | google uses preforce |
| 08:26.52 | Shefki | Yup. |
| 08:27.36 | Shefki | But probably just about all the major people who worked on SVN cycled through Google a few years back. They hired them for their Open Source division. Don't think very many of them are still there. |
| 08:27.44 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: I bet you were thinking of Apache. |
| 08:27.46 | Vulcanus | svn is awesome. That is all. |
| 08:27.50 | Shefki | Tons of Apache and SVN overlap. |
| 08:27.55 | Arrowmaster | Shefki: oh yeah thats it |
| 08:28.09 | Shefki | Especially since SVN uses APR. |
| 08:28.18 | renchap | Shefki: i am moving our internal cvs repositories to svn tomorrow |
| 08:28.24 | renchap | about 120k revisions |
| 08:29.25 | Shefki | Using the python tool to import? |
| 08:30.29 | Vulcanus | ha didnt know schwick had an account on wowace |
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| 08:32.08 | Shefki | I bet I didn't have the same email for the wowace forums as curse. |
| 08:33.06 | Vulcanus | if your username is same as irc name, it didn't seem to conflict |
| 08:33.22 | Shefki | Might have had a username of breser |
| 08:33.35 | Vulcanus | no idea then, I'm way past B |
| 08:33.35 | Vulcanus | :p |
| 08:35.28 | Shefki | Hmm where's Ellipsis. |
| 08:37.12 | Vulcanus | and doen! |
| 08:37.20 | Vulcanus | now to update user titles & ranks, and forum info |
| 08:39.11 | Xinhuan | is it possible to remove the "wowaceSVN - Original author" thingy from addons? |
| 08:39.31 | Xinhuan | oh never mind lol |
| 08:39.34 | Xinhuan | wrong page |
| 08:39.56 | Shefki | Ahhah... my forum id got imported as shefki2 Vulcanus |
| 08:40.26 | Vulcanus | Ill merge them |
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| 08:40.37 | Shefki | Vulcanus: TY :) |
| 08:40.44 | Vulcanus | done |
| 08:41.21 | Shefki | That was fast. |
| 08:42.43 | Shefki | Wow this is kinda creepy, if you go to the calendar you can see everyones birthday. |
| 08:42.43 | Vulcanus | aye its just a matter of clickign a few links ;p |
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| 08:43.54 | Shefki | October 1, 1902 (106) |
| 08:43.57 | Shefki | Yeah right. |
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| 08:46.25 | Vulcanus | That's because your birthday wasn't stored correctly on curse |
| 08:47.00 | Shefki | That wasn't mine. |
| 08:47.16 | Shefki | But yeah I fixed my birthday on curse ages ago after I got tired of it saying I was really old. |
| 08:47.20 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 08:47.36 | Zyndrome | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7645059.stm heh |
| 08:47.38 | Vulcanus | grats on your 106th bday!!! |
| 08:47.40 | Kalroth | "Welcome back, granpa Shefki" |
| 08:48.20 | Shefki | I'm not that old. |
| 08:48.25 | Shefki | Thankfully. |
| 08:48.43 | Shefki | So any of you guys/gals going to Blizzcon? |
| 08:48.51 | Kalroth | You kids get offa mah porch! |
| 08:49.09 | Shefki | Kalroth: Don't make me leave dog poop on it. :P |
| 08:49.17 | Kalroth | :P |
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| 08:49.48 | Shefki | I kinda understand that though. Neighbor kids love using my driveway to ride their bikes on because it's steep. |
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| 08:51.41 | Shefki | "Much of the content in the add-on game involves battling against the army of undead that Arthas controls." |
| 08:51.58 | Shefki | I'm always amazed at mainstream jouurnalists writing about games. |
| 08:52.18 | Shefki | "Alongside the new content Blizzard is also expected to start updating the graphics engine for WoW to make its cartoony look more realistic. " |
| 08:52.22 | Shefki | Where do they come up with this stuff. |
| 08:52.53 | Zyndrome | journalists = crazy people |
| 08:53.16 | renchap | Shefki: yes, i am using cvs2svn |
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| 08:59.35 | Shefki | So are you guys going to move the jira tickets into the curseforge ticketing system? |
| 08:59.47 | Arrowmaster | doubt it |
| 08:59.55 | Arrowmaster | only a few projects used jira |
| 09:00.01 | Shefki | *nod* |
| 09:00.17 | Shefki | The PitBull tickets are such a mess. |
| 09:00.26 | Arrowmaster | and some of them (*cough* and of ckk's *cough*) were full of useless tickets |
| 09:01.10 | quiescens | mm, I'm trying to work out why something is happening in pitbull at the moment too |
| 09:01.33 | Shefki | What's that? |
| 09:02.16 | quiescens | seems to break if you're already in a party with someone, and then someone else joins when you're in combat |
| 09:02.24 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: I've tried to clean up the PitBull ones but it's a real pain. |
| 09:02.39 | Shefki | quiescens: Consequence of the way PitBull is designed. |
| 09:02.42 | Arrowmaster | quiescens: even the default ui does that |
| 09:02.45 | Shefki | You're entering a snake pit. |
| 09:02.58 | quiescens | I mean, it breaks, and stays broken until you reload ui, even if you come out of combat |
| 09:03.13 | Shefki | Breaks how? |
| 09:03.41 | Shefki | I've actually done a fair amount of work to try and make it behave better in these cases. |
| 09:03.41 | quiescens | well, it'll display 2 people, when there's 3, sometimes it'll leave ghost frames over the other player in the party |
| 09:03.54 | Shefki | Yeah that's a known bug. |
| 09:03.59 | Shefki | I wouldn't spend too much time trying to debug it. |
| 09:04.06 | quiescens | it works perfectly if you're in combat, alone, and then have someone join |
| 09:04.14 | Shefki | The real fix for these issues is to rewrite it with the new secure templates for 3.0. |
| 09:04.32 | Shefki | The existing system is almost impossible to do right what CK wanted to do. |
| 09:04.56 | Shefki | Which was making frames as needed and recycle them rather than have every frame for every possible unit id made in advance. |
| 09:05.08 | Xinhuan | should just rewrite pitbull from scratch ;p |
| 09:05.16 | Shefki | That's the plan. |
| 09:05.18 | quiescens | I just thought it odd that it happens only if you're already in a party and add more people to it whereas it works fine if you are solo initially |
| 09:05.46 | Shefki | quiescens: That's a consequence of how the Blizzard secure code drives the PitBull code. |
| 09:06.05 | Shefki | If there's no party then the Blizzard code makes frames for you. |
| 09:06.17 | Shefki | IF there's already a party then the frames already exist and PitBull tries to recycle them. |
| 09:06.25 | Shefki | The Blizzard code can do things that PitBull can't in combat. |
| 09:07.07 | Shefki | Xinhuan: Of course when and if it gets rewriten I can't fathom to say. |
| 09:07.24 | Shefki | Xinhuan: Given ck seems enamored with Warhammer and is busy with curse... probably never. |
| 09:07.39 | Stanzilla | Shefki: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/pitbull4/ |
| 09:07.40 | Xinhuan | there's always ellipses :) |
| 09:07.42 | Stanzilla | he already started :P |
| 09:07.56 | Shefki | Stanzilla: Yeah that's been there for a while. |
| 09:08.39 | Stanzilla | maybe he has time for it when the curse storm calms down |
| 09:08.44 | Shefki | I hope. |
| 09:09.03 | Shefki | Xinhuan: Ellipsis and I already talked about it. Neither of us really want to do it. |
| 09:09.20 | Xinhuan | well its that or let pitbull die |
| 09:09.37 | Shefki | I've been bug fixing for Wrath quite a bit. |
| 09:09.53 | Xinhuan | yah but nothing beats a rewrite for efficiency and stuff |
| 09:09.54 | Shefki | I may do enough of a rewrite to move it into the new templating. |
| 09:09.59 | [SW]Dodge | someone knows how long a (successfull) ZA timerun takes? |
| 09:10.07 | Xinhuan | 30 min |
| 09:10.24 | Xinhuan | from hitting gong to kiling 4th chest |
| 09:10.25 | [SW]Dodge | rly? |
| 09:10.31 | [SW]Dodge | nice |
| 09:10.44 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 09:10.49 | Arrowmaster | little longer than that |
| 09:10.55 | Xinhuan | actually closer to 40 |
| 09:11.00 | Shefki | Xinhuan: ATM my priority is on TBag. |
| 09:11.13 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: how much time is left on timer for your runs? |
| 09:11.23 | Xinhuan | 10-12 min usually |
| 09:11.40 | Shefki | Max time is 45 minutes isn't it? |
| 09:11.42 | Arrowmaster | yeah ive dont it that fast before but lately havent had much time left |
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| 09:12.59 | Xinhuan | had one of those silly runs where we had 3 wipes too, but still got bear anyway |
| 09:13.28 | thul | i want to raaaid |
| 09:13.31 | Shefki | Anyway quiescens your issue is a massive design flaw not a simple bug, sorry. :( |
| 09:14.28 | Xinhuan | you could use xperl - it uses 800 kb added all up, pitbull uses 4.2 mb ;p |
| 09:14.51 | Xinhuan | makes you wonder if all that frame recycling really worked hehe |
| 09:15.02 | Shefki | If I switch away from PitBUll I'll be moving back to AGUF. |
| 09:15.14 | Xinhuan | ya aguf is closest to pitbull |
| 09:15.33 | Shefki | But that won't happen until at least Wrath is done since I've got custom mods for PitBull for Sunwell that I use. |
| 09:15.48 | Shefki | And I have no desire to rewrite them this close to them being obsolete. |
| 09:15.51 | Xinhuan | you may need to switch by 3.0 at least |
| 09:15.58 | quiescens | I suppose |
| 09:16.07 | Shefki | Why? PitBull works fine for me on the beta. |
| 09:17.15 | Shefki | As far as I know short of existing design issues I've got all the wrath bugs fixed in it. |
| 09:17.37 | Shefki | Well I take that back. Still need to do a pass over the aura filter. |
| 09:17.56 | Shefki | But I'm putting that off until 3.0 becuase they keep changing stuff. |
| 09:17.57 | Shefki | So there's no point in doing it every week. |
| 09:19.45 | Shefki | One thing I do need to do is figure out the LoD issue with FuBar. |
| 09:19.53 | Shefki | That's driving me nuts. |
| 09:20.45 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 07WotLK * r98 core.lua: SOCD-WoTlk: fix typo in core to actualy check stuff |
| 09:23.15 | Shefki | Ohh well night. |
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| 09:27.29 | [SW]Dodge | short question about item durations, i got a ingame mail from brew of the month club with some beer. the duration is 14 days does this timer start now or if i get it out of the mailbox (still have it in the mail). i dont want to take it and then see it dissappearing befor 3.0patch hits live and it wont become counted for brewfest :S |
| 09:27.45 | [SW]Dodge | +achievment |
| 09:28.04 | quiescens | those things used to count only when you have them in your inventory |
| 09:28.10 | quiescens | but I don't know if that's still the case |
| 09:29.40 | [SW]Dodge | yea i know becouse of that i want to keep it in mailbox with 29days duration. but i dont know if the 14day counter allready start now :S |
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| 09:29.51 | [SW]Dodge | well i'll open a ticket and ask a GM :P |
| 09:31.19 | quiescens | it will probably only count while its in your inventory |
| 09:32.59 | Arrowmaster | also the 14 day duration is game time not real time i think |
| 09:33.10 | Arrowmaster | my brewfest tokens still have 21 days on them |
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| 09:34.26 | quiescens | oh so they only changed that for certain items? |
| 09:34.59 | quiescens | they did explicitly go back and change the halloween stuff to "real-time" instead of in-game time a couple patches back |
| 09:35.06 | quiescens | I thought that meant they changed all of them |
| 09:36.43 | SunTsu | quiescens: I saw somebody on a halloween broom some days ago |
| 09:37.05 | [SW]Dodge | Arrowmaster: my tockens have again 21 days 2 days ago they had 19 days |
| 09:37.18 | quiescens | okay, I'll rephrase what I meant to say |
| 09:37.18 | [SW]Dodge | Arrowmaster: think the counter increase if you get more :D |
| 09:37.30 | [SW]Dodge | s/increase/reset/ |
| 09:37.33 | quiescens | they did explicitly *say* they changed it to real time |
| 09:37.48 | quiescens | but I didn't have any of the halloween stuff to actually care whether they did |
| 09:37.57 | quiescens | - The various Hallowâs End broom mounts now have their proper real-time |
| 09:38.01 | quiescens | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:38.05 | quiescens | or so they claimed |
| 09:38.43 | Arrowmaster | i still have halloween brooms |
| 09:38.44 | quiescens | but the blizzard is never really quite sure whether or not the changes in their patch notes actually exist |
| 09:38.47 | Arrowmaster | like 6 of them |
| 09:39.07 | quiescens | I still think the brooms looked a little silly |
| 09:39.12 | quiescens | the flying carpets sound fun though |
| 09:39.14 | Arrowmaster | also have valentines day packages from 2 years ago |
| 09:39.23 | quiescens | I run out of space |
| 09:39.31 | Arrowmaster | theyre all in the mailbox |
| 09:40.00 | Arrowmaster | i did have 19 random halloween wands and a bunch of others that ive been using up in raids to free space |
| 09:40.23 | quiescens | I have one ground mount, one flying mount and don't keep the novelty pet thingies, and only have the tabard I'm actively wearing ): |
| 09:41.10 | SunTsu | quiescens: The question still remains whether the countdown begins while having them in the mailbox. I don't think so. I think they changed it for items in your inventory |
| 09:41.38 | Arrowmaster | SunTsu: no it doesnt |
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| 09:41.48 | Arrowmaster | items dont count down in the mailbox |
| 09:41.58 | Arrowmaster | like i said i have brooms from last year |
| 09:42.09 | Arrowmaster | and valentines gift packages from 2 years ago |
| 09:42.48 | SunTsu | Arrowmaster: That was the main question which started the discussion |
| 09:43.19 | Arrowmaster | and i answered it |
| 09:43.25 | [SW]Dodge | okay, so i'll keep the beer in my mailbox until 3.0 hits live jsut to be sure :) |
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| 09:57.08 | zoktar | hi maybe a silly question but i cant find any config button either in fubar or round minimap, to config OUF addons, /ouf doesnt work neither ouf_config |
| 09:58.15 | Stanzilla | there are no ingame configs for oUF layouts |
| 09:58.38 | zoktar | so if i want to move em i need to edit the luas? |
| 09:58.46 | zoktar | the frames that is |
| 09:59.18 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 09:59.33 | zoktar | kk thnx |
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| 10:06.24 | zoktar | anyone suggest a frame mover addon? |
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| 10:33.20 | Vulcanus | nevcairiel: Go get yourself an avatar on the forum :p |
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| 10:36.28 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07wrath * 4.1.0-WotLK-Beta2-2-g9a61737 / (62 files in 9 directories): (2 revisions total) |
| 10:36.29 | Repo | Merge branch 'master' into wrath |
| 10:36.33 | Repo | Updated .pkgmeta externals for final migration |
| 10:40.47 | nevcairiel | Was my name always red? |
| 10:41.07 | Xinhuan | its green |
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| 10:41.19 | nevcairiel | in the forum |
| 10:42.12 | Xinhuan | dunno heh |
| 10:42.21 | nevcairiel | dafire. does the style look broken or anything with that width hack? |
| 10:44.12 | Xinhuan | nev is that . to - change retroactive across all projects |
| 10:44.20 | Xinhuan | or do i have to edit all those .pkgmeta files |
| 10:44.46 | nevcairiel | you might have to remove some extra dashes |
| 10:44.54 | nevcairiel | but the . change was done by the script |
| 10:45.15 | Xinhuan | so i have to manual check every project to see if something broke? |
| 10:45.32 | nevcairiel | thats recommended anyway :p |
| 10:45.41 | Xinhuan | or is there a convenient ERRORS.txt like last time |
| 10:45.55 | nevcairiel | not public right now |
| 10:46.00 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: the forum skin still has the old footer :) |
| 10:46.06 | Xinhuan | i found it convenient |
| 10:46.13 | Xinhuan | to see if anything was broken across the whole site |
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| 10:46.17 | nevcairiel | ya i know Stanzilla, had more important stuff to fix |
| 10:46.28 | Stanzilla | thought so :) |
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| 10:49.37 | Vulcanus | nevcairiel: I added the markup for adminstrators |
| 10:50.17 | Vulcanus | and the other staff, but theres hardly any :p |
| 10:52.18 | nevcairiel | the fucking notifications dropdown hides behind the nav bar in IE7 |
| 10:52.21 | nevcairiel | do something <.< |
| 10:52.40 | Vulcanus | www.getfirefox.com |
| 10:52.49 | nevcairiel | I do have that |
| 10:52.56 | nevcairiel | i still dont like it broken for 10% of the users or so |
| 10:53.07 | Vulcanus | do we only have 10% IE users? |
| 10:53.14 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 10:53.33 | Vulcanus | what nav bar do you mean though, the Hi <username> one? |
| 10:53.41 | digmouse | feeling a bit uncomfortable missing SVN branches to get wotLK beta mods |
| 10:54.25 | nevcairiel | Vulcanus: nah, the area where the search box is |
| 10:54.40 | Arrowmaster | well over half of wowace users use firefox |
| 10:54.43 | Vulcanus | Ill look at it in asec |
| 10:54.46 | Arrowmaster | and more use opera too than IE i think |
| 10:54.53 | Arrowmaster | and probably chrome now too |
| 10:55.07 | nevcairiel | i tried hacking up some z-index magic, but apparently its a IE bug, but i didnt find a work around yet |
| 10:55.22 | digmouse | IE? ain't it a bitch |
| 10:55.23 | nevcairiel | http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html |
| 10:55.25 | nevcairiel | proof of concept |
| 10:59.21 | dafire | nevcairiel: it don't look relally broken :9 |
| 10:59.30 | nevcairiel | in IE? |
| 10:59.35 | nevcairiel | the order of the boxes is wrong |
| 10:59.51 | nevcairiel | oh the width thing |
| 10:59.51 | dafire | which boxes ? |
| 10:59.53 | cladhaire | kik |
| 10:59.53 | nevcairiel | yeah i tried it |
| 10:59.58 | dafire | ah .9 |
| 11:00.12 | nevcairiel | wonder if i can tweak the page to look properly in a full-width skin |
| 11:00.20 | nevcairiel | will try when everything else is running |
| 11:01.30 | Fisker- | NEVCAIRIEL OMG |
| 11:01.36 | Fisker- | so happy |
| 11:01.45 | Vulcanus | beyond such cosmetic things and Arrowmaster not being able to login properly, anything else broken? |
| 11:01.52 | Fisker- | Someone in denmark got the case i wanted in stock >:3 |
| 11:01.59 | Fisker- | and it's cheaper than it was in germany |
| 11:02.00 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 11:05.32 | Vulcanus | I guess no then |
| 11:05.46 | zoktar | anyone know a frame mover that works with ouf's ? |
| 11:06.37 | dafire | zoktar: just edit the lua file .9 |
| 11:06.57 | zoktar | tryin cant find the location settings |
| 11:07.21 | dafire | look where the frames are created .. there should be some SetPoint( |
| 11:07.34 | dafire | which layout are you using ? |
| 11:07.48 | zoktar | orbz |
| 11:07.59 | zoktar | orbs even |
| 11:09.35 | dafire | ok .. it's in the end of oUF_Orbs.lua |
| 11:09.58 | dafire | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:09.58 | dafire | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:09.58 | dafire | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:10.11 | zoktar | ah thanks |
| 11:10.43 | dafire | you probably use futureorb1 style if you did not change that at the top of the file |
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| 11:18.51 | dafire | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:18.53 | dafire | woot |
| 11:20.04 | Arrowmaster | oh shit... |
| 11:20.13 | Arrowmaster | thats fucking awesome |
| 11:20.18 | cladhaire | wow,. |
| 11:20.20 | cladhaire | thats ridic |
| 11:20.39 | Arrowmaster | that might be too good |
| 11:20.43 | dafire | infernal down from 5 min to one min :( |
| 11:20.57 | Arrowmaster | the dps of drain soul was already 'ok' |
| 11:21.17 | vithos | is there any other site like wwsscoreboard? |
| 11:21.25 | vithos | that one seems to be dead |
| 11:21.34 | Pneumatus | amagad, they have moved imp pw:f to tier 3 of the disc tree |
| 11:21.53 | nevcairiel | they said they changed it with imp:something else |
| 11:22.11 | Pneumatus | yeh, imp inner fire, which is a complete waste of talent points |
| 11:22.15 | Pneumatus | seeing as it doesnt scale |
| 11:22.23 | nevcairiel | people requested it |
| 11:22.25 | nevcairiel | and it happend |
| 11:22.29 | dafire | shadowbolt don't work on everlasting affliction anymore .9 |
| 11:22.51 | Pneumatus | the request was to switch imp inner fire with imp pw:s, not pw:f |
| 11:23.01 | nevcairiel | they nerfed glyph of regrowth .. druid heaing is going to be so boring again |
| 11:23.35 | Pneumatus | its basically now making holy priests have a mandatory 15/16 points in disc rather than 13/14 |
| 11:24.36 | Arrowmaster | dafire: wtf? |
| 11:24.44 | Arrowmaster | dafire: doesnt that like make it useless? |
| 11:24.46 | dafire | it's haunt now |
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| 11:25.30 | dafire | haunt or drain life |
| 11:25.46 | dafire | guess they dont't want only corruption and then shadowbolt spam |
| 11:29.19 | Fisker- | kisses nevcairiel |
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| 11:35.18 | sbu | Pneumatus: no way |
| 11:35.28 | sbu | i wont spec pw:f then :p |
| 11:35.49 | sbu | so it changed from not speccing imp inner fire to not speccing imp pw:f |
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| 11:35.55 | dafire | blizzard won against glider author .9 |
| 11:36.17 | dafire | has to pay 6 millions |
| 11:37.24 | nevcairiel | link? :p |
| 11:39.23 | Pneumatus | sbu: shadow? |
| 11:39.29 | sbu | heal |
| 11:39.29 | dafire | http://www.golem.de/0810/62718.html (german) :) |
| 11:39.33 | sbu | holy |
| 11:39.43 | Pneumatus | you put points in silent resolve then? |
| 11:39.46 | dafire | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7645059.stm (english) |
| 11:39.56 | sbu | Pneumatus: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?priest=052300003000000000000000000023505103200015253005331351000000000000000000000000000 |
| 11:40.06 | sbu | lvl 80 spec |
| 11:40.16 | Pneumatus | silent resolve is made of fail |
| 11:40.54 | chexsum_ | imp pwf is less meaningful as your stam increases anyway |
| 11:41.00 | Pneumatus | at least if they had switched pw:s with imp inner fire you could put 5 points in tier 2 without wasting them in silent resolve |
| 11:41.13 | sbu | perhaps remove that desp. prayer point and put it into lolwell - dont know yet :P |
| 11:41.27 | sbu | mh thats right.. |
| 11:41.30 | Pneumatus | they still need to ditch meditation anyway, theres no way holy priests should have to spend a mandatory 13 points in disc anyway |
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| 11:42.27 | Pneumatus | basically identical to my current planned build anyway, except i wont be taking healing focus in teir 1 holy |
| 11:44.08 | sbu | okay, -healing focus, -desp prayer, +3/3 imp healing |
| 11:44.43 | dafire | looks like affliction warlock will be fun again .9 |
| 11:45.21 | Pneumatus | imp inner fire is still basically a waste of space though, as it doesnt scale |
| 11:45.38 | Pneumatus | if they made inner fires spell damage increase based on your current spelldamage, that would work |
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| 11:45.43 | Stanzilla | Pneumatus: shadows need meditation, too |
| 11:46.10 | Pneumatus | in that case, 13 points in disc is mandatory for all priests, which is even worse |
| 11:46.25 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 11:46.43 | Stanzilla | I can't find a good shadow specc for lvl 70 |
| 11:46.50 | Pneumatus | and only the pvp specced disc/holy priests, or gimped ds priests will ever have imp pw:f |
| 11:46.52 | winkiller | 14/0/47 |
| 11:47.08 | winkiller | is what all raiding SPs I ever encountered have |
| 11:47.09 | sbu | Pneumatus: its 327 +heal instead of 255 +heal |
| 11:47.21 | sbu | with imp inner fire |
| 11:47.21 | Stanzilla | winkiller: i meant with 3.0 |
| 11:47.23 | EvilJohn | Stanzilla: it's hard, but you'll have to ditch the discipline points |
| 11:47.25 | winkiller | ah :P |
| 11:47.39 | EvilJohn | i had somethign for my SP taht worked, but it was't great |
| 11:47.40 | Stanzilla | EvilJohn: yes, meditation 1/3 it seems |
| 11:47.49 | EvilJohn | at best |
| 11:47.50 | Pneumatus | yeh, 72 spelldamage at 80 for 3 talent points |
| 11:47.51 | nevcairiel | Hm what sounds saner, using 1.3 and eventually adding a 1.3.1 later, or directly starting with 1.3.0 and then going 1.3.1? |
| 11:47.57 | sbu | Pneumatus: yup... |
| 11:48.12 | EvilJohn | 1.3.0 |
| 11:48.14 | sbu | not that bad... |
| 11:48.19 | Pneumatus | not to mention the fact you have to re-cast it every other pull |
| 11:48.28 | EvilJohn | 1.30.0 sets expectations |
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| 11:48.54 | sbu | okay, its great for casters |
| 11:48.54 | nevcairiel | I should just use the first number too |
| 11:48.58 | sbu | aka shadow priests :p |
| 11:49.01 | nevcairiel | right now its always fixed for me =P |
| 11:49.03 | sbu | 70 damage is a lot |
| 11:49.12 | Pneumatus | 1.3.0 -> 1.3.1 makes more sense than 1.3 -> 1.3.1 |
| 11:49.40 | EvilJohn | agreed |
| 11:49.46 | Pneumatus | the former suggests you will be using a minor revision number, the latter suggests the minor revision is an afterthought |
| 11:50.00 | sbu | err its 54 spelldamage, 75 heal |
| 11:50.15 | sbu | so the spellpwer -> healing isnt good at this point |
| 11:50.35 | sbu | it should be 50spelldamage, 100 heal... |
| 11:50.57 | Pneumatus | they should have just done what the community requested and switched it with pw:s rather than fortitude, cocking up the ever increasing amount of points needed to be spent in disc |
| 11:50.58 | dafire | that would be to much |
| 11:52.09 | Groktar | Pneumatus: but don't forget the ARMOR! |
| 11:52.17 | sbu | dafire: but 54*1.88 is 101... and not 72 :) |
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| 11:52.25 | Groktar | ^ |
| 11:52.28 | Pneumatus | if priests are getting hit, tanks fail tbh |
| 11:52.28 | sbu | so 100 would be "ok" |
| 11:53.05 | Pneumatus | take the armor portion off the buff if it means they can switch it, imo |
| 11:53.18 | Pneumatus | at level 70, imp inner fire is a complete waste of time anyway |
| 11:53.23 | Pneumatus | as the level 70 version doesnt give spellpower |
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| 11:53.44 | dafire | sbu: that won't work with scaling |
| 11:54.14 | Pneumatus | which means your level 70 raiding spec will have something retarded in tier 2 like 3/3 imp pw:s and 2/3 silent resolve, which is even worse |
| 11:54.25 | Stanzilla | Pneumatus: it does? |
| 11:54.31 | sbu | silent resolve isnt that bad... |
| 11:54.34 | Stanzilla | lemme test |
| 11:54.42 | sbu | remember, no more blessing of salvation |
| 11:55.01 | Pneumatus | the last time i checked, rank 7 inner fire doesnt have spellpower, they only added it in rank 8 which you get at 71 |
| 11:55.02 | Groktar | is all over silent resolve |
| 11:55.06 | sbu | CoH spamming without -aggro = dead priest :) |
| 11:55.10 | sbu | even in bossfights |
| 11:55.45 | dafire | sbu: how do you get 1.88 ? |
| 11:56.00 | Stanzilla | Pneumatus: ok you are right :P |
| 11:56.05 | sbu | its 3000-4000 HPS, so 1500-2000 TPS (without aggro modifier) - hard time for tanks :) |
| 11:56.17 | sbu | dafire: mh.. no idea... just got that number somewhere |
| 11:56.35 | Groktar | that gets divided among the number of mobs sbu |
| 11:56.40 | Pneumatus | which, assuming your gonna respec for levelling when LK comes, makes that an absolutely useless raiding talent for 3.0 |
| 11:56.40 | sbu | Groktar: bossfight |
| 11:56.50 | sbu | there is only 1 mob |
| 11:57.14 | nevcairiel | 2000 TPS is nothing for tanks |
| 11:57.19 | Groktar | ^ |
| 11:57.25 | nevcairiel | in 3.0, anyway |
| 11:57.33 | nevcairiel | and you dont run that constantly |
| 11:57.48 | sbu | okay, dont know about tank changes in 3.0 |
| 11:57.59 | Pneumatus | im not even gonna start on the fact that tank-specced tanks can put out 1.5k dps, and heal specced healers cant even put out half that |
| 11:58.55 | sbu | they can :) |
| 11:59.05 | sbu | e.g. bloodboil fight |
| 11:59.12 | Pneumatus | fail |
| 11:59.17 | sbu | why fail? |
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| 11:59.33 | Pneumatus | healers can put out 1.5k dps at bloodboil? |
| 11:59.38 | Groktar | hehe |
| 11:59.39 | sbu | ahh DPS |
| 11:59.41 | sbu | :( |
| 12:00.06 | sbu | whats with DPS!? :p |
| 12:00.13 | Pneumatus | grinding/levelling |
| 12:00.20 | dafire | well .. an aditional tank on raid that has no tank target is more useless then an additional healer .9 |
| 12:00.24 | Pneumatus | tanks now get it ezmode, but healers are still gimped |
| 12:00.31 | sbu | ahhh, okay |
| 12:00.49 | nevcairiel | holy priests can put out some nice dps |
| 12:00.49 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 12:00.52 | sbu | Pneumatus: i will spec shadow with healgear and 4/8 T6 |
| 12:01.00 | sbu | (4/8 shadow) |
| 12:01.10 | sbu | for leveling |
| 12:01.24 | Pneumatus | nevcairiel: in 3.0 holy dps will only hit 600-700 dps |
| 12:01.32 | dafire | with bc will there still be a damage and a healing set for healers ? |
| 12:01.35 | sbu | nevcairiel: dont chat, fix curse client syndication! ;) *hides* |
| 12:01.37 | dafire | uhm |
| 12:01.39 | dafire | wrath :) |
| 12:02.01 | nevcairiel | dafire: sure, all sets still have multiple versions |
| 12:02.04 | sbu | dafire: 4/8 shadow set for +10% mindblast damage |
| 12:02.13 | sbu | + some hit |
| 12:02.23 | nevcairiel | has 8/8 T6 Feral |
| 12:02.41 | Stanzilla | the priest heal t6 bracers are better than the dps bracers in 3.0 |
| 12:02.44 | Stanzilla | >.< |
| 12:02.53 | nevcairiel | doesnt matter |
| 12:02.54 | Stanzilla | for dps that is |
| 12:02.58 | dafire | i have 6/8 t6 on my warlock .. i could have 8/8 but i wanted to l keep the vashj robe .9 |
| 12:03.01 | nevcairiel | you will have like one week or maybe 2 :P |
| 12:03.09 | sbu | nevcairiel: i also have 8/8 t6 shadow, but i dont want to use it, because there is more spirit and stuff on heal - so heal gear is better for non-raid damage :) |
| 12:03.22 | Groktar | fricken druids in my guild all have 8/8 for 3 specs |
| 12:03.27 | Groktar | and i only have 1/8 shadow |
| 12:03.28 | Groktar | :( |
| 12:03.33 | Arrowmaster | dafire: vashj robe? why would you use that crap over t6? |
| 12:03.36 | nevcairiel | I still doubt anything beats the smooth leveling as a druid |
| 12:03.43 | nevcairiel | as feral that is |
| 12:03.45 | dafire | Arrowmaster: i always found it better .9 |
| 12:03.48 | nevcairiel | i had like no downtime, ever |
| 12:03.50 | nevcairiel | in beta |
| 12:03.55 | sbu | DK is nice ;) |
| 12:03.58 | ShinSR71 | vashj robe is awesome last time i checked |
| 12:04.29 | Pneumatus | illidan hates me, im still wearing the ZA robe |
| 12:04.44 | Pneumatus | ive got 5/8 holy and 2/8 shadow now tho |
| 12:05.07 | sbu | muru hates me, didnt get that healing chest, 1 kill so far ;p |
| 12:05.23 | Pneumatus | still working on muru :< |
| 12:05.34 | dafire | vashj robe is one of the best in game .9 |
| 12:05.42 | sbu | killed muru 2 days ago :) |
| 12:05.47 | Groktar | in my guild it's always the guy that's been in guild for a week that wins the roll on offspecs |
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| 12:05.55 | sbu | was great.. and i didnt really expect it to h appen before wotlk ;) |
| 12:05.56 | Stanzilla | Adirelle: is the SSR repo broken again? |
| 12:07.15 | sbu | nevcairiel: whats your status with that project merging? ;) |
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| 12:13.12 | nevcairiel | sbu: still working |
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| 12:18.03 | nevcairiel | 187 projects left |
| 12:18.04 | nevcairiel | *sigh |
| 12:19.41 | Josh_Borke | you can do it! |
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| 12:25.48 | Fisker- | nevcairiel throw them in the garbage and tell Kaelten that you completed it |
| 12:25.49 | Fisker- | ! |
| 12:25.49 | Fisker- | :P |
| 12:27.13 | nevcairiel | that requires the same amount of clicks |
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| 12:28.59 | nevcairiel | but hey, i just foudn a nice addon that i have to try |
| 12:29.54 | Stanzilla | what is it? :) |
| 12:30.06 | nevcairiel | HeadCount |
| 12:30.09 | nevcairiel | some raid tracker |
| 12:30.12 | nevcairiel | so sick of CT_RT |
| 12:30.39 | vhaarr | but you haven't tried NRT? |
| 12:31.29 | nevcairiel | I did |
| 12:31.35 | nevcairiel | but i didnt like it either |
| 12:31.41 | nevcairiel | and you werent aroudn to bitch at |
| 12:31.48 | Fisker- | NRT is awesome |
| 12:31.51 | vhaarr | >< |
| 12:32.01 | Fisker- | but vhaarr wasn't around so i could suck up to him |
| 12:32.19 | vhaarr | I am now, suck all you want! |
| 12:32.21 | nevcairiel | Maybe i'll try it again and bitch again =P |
| 12:32.59 | vhaarr | headcount basically just copied a lot of NRTs features, I don't really know why the author made it |
| 12:33.12 | Groktar | wonders how omen3 is getting along |
| 12:33.31 | nevcairiel | I dunno, i just found it |
| 12:33.36 | SunTsu | [X] done |
| 12:33.44 | SunTsu | fc |
| 12:35.43 | Groktar | i thought you were writing it nevcairiel? |
| 12:36.41 | vhaarr | Xinhuan is dabbling in the field, I think |
| 12:36.51 | Xinhuan | what? |
| 12:36.51 | vhaarr | but there's no point coming here asking when it's done every day |
| 12:37.08 | vhaarr | "Omen3" |
| 12:37.14 | Xinhuan | oh yeah |
| 12:37.20 | sbu | nevcairiel: i like headcount - needs epgp support, but its still nice ;) |
| 12:37.46 | Xinhuan | i have an initial version of omen3 written, just not uploaded yet |
| 12:38.03 | vhaarr | I like your mother, she needs blonde hair, but she's still nice. |
| 12:38.05 | Xinhuan | i plan to add some simple config tonight |
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| 12:38.36 | sbu | vhaarr: *sigh*! |
| 12:38.40 | nevcairiel | upload it already :p |
| 12:38.47 | sbu | vhaarr: go play with Fisker- :/ |
| 12:38.51 | Groktar | ^ |
| 12:39.16 | Cryect | <vhaarr> headcount basically just copied a lot of NRTs features, I don't really know why the author made it |
| 12:39.19 | Xinhuan | nah not quite yet, i made quite a lot of changes hehe, want to finish it ;p |
| 12:39.33 | Cryect | Maybe he/she didn't like how it NRT was presented or functioned? |
| 12:39.39 | vhaarr | sbu: I don't see why you would advertise like that for an addon, nevcairiel is perfectly capable of making his own decision, if you want to play business why don't you go on the curse channel or something |
| 12:40.07 | vhaarr | Cryect: yeah obviously he did it for a reason, I just said I don't know which one it is? |
| 12:41.06 | vhaarr | fucks off for dinner |
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| 12:46.51 | Tifi | err did anyone ever use GetAddOnCPUUsage? someone edited the wowwiki page and claims that it returns seconds, but it's definitely millis for me on live. is that changed in the beta? |
| 12:47.36 | Pneumatus | have they implemented the inscriptor-only glyph slot in beta yet? |
| 12:48.06 | sbu | i hope they have fixed my mammoth| :p |
| 12:48.22 | Pneumatus | they arent retroactively fixing the 15k ones |
| 12:48.32 | sbu | no idea Pneumatus, will test when i get home (~2h) |
| 12:48.38 | sbu | i know, but i have a 20k one ;) |
| 12:48.40 | Pneumatus | hopefully they have fixed the 20k ones so we can get rid of our vendors |
| 12:48.45 | sbu | yep |
| 12:49.20 | sbu | i love that falling-damage bug (bug?! dont know :p) ;) |
| 12:50.08 | Pneumatus | before this most recent patch the center glyph still hadnt been unlocked, had it? |
| 12:50.17 | Groktar | suspects sbu of witchcraft |
| 12:50.30 | sbu | mhhh? :) |
| 12:50.39 | Groktar | points at sbu |
| 12:50.41 | Groktar | WITCH! |
| 12:51.40 | dafire | throws stone |
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| 13:06.26 | Groktar | dances seductively |
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| 13:08.15 | vithos | groktar! |
| 13:08.26 | vithos | what class do you play? |
| 13:08.32 | Groktar | priest/warrior |
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| 13:10.19 | vithos | what specs? |
| 13:12.31 | Groktar | all? |
| 13:12.54 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r85 / (3 files in 1 directory): SimpleMD: cleanup .pkgmeta and the toc file |
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| 13:13.24 | vithos | i see. |
| 13:15.38 | cncfanatics | anyone know a good mail client ? |
| 13:15.56 | Maldivia | cncfanatics: what needs? what OS? |
| 13:15.56 | Stanzilla | there are no good mail clients |
| 13:16.12 | cncfanatics | I'm on linux |
| 13:16.17 | cncfanatics | getting anoyed, I often have no inet on my laptop |
| 13:16.22 | cncfanatics | so I want to be able to access my mails while offline too |
| 13:16.28 | Maldivia | tbird? |
| 13:16.36 | JY` | mutt ? :) |
| 13:16.42 | cncfanatics | I don't like thunderbird at all :p |
| 13:17.17 | cncfanatics | JY`: I considered it, but would really prefer a gui tool |
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| 13:17.25 | JY` | ^^ |
| 13:18.23 | JY` | evolution should be tbird alternative but i never used another gui mail client than tbird |
| 13:18.23 | Maldivia | evolution? kmail? |
| 13:18.25 | mitch0 | cnc: kmail, opera's M2 |
| 13:18.48 | mitch0 | (teh latter might have issues with storing stuff localy though ;) |
| 13:18.53 | Repo | 10mobile-vault: 03Starinnia * r66 / (3 files in 1 directory): MobileVault: proof .pkgmeta file and tweak toc file |
| 13:18.56 | mitch0 | kmail is nice though |
| 13:19.15 | mitch0 | my wife used that for a while without problems |
| 13:19.22 | cncfanatics | mmm, I'll try out both evolution and kmail |
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| 13:19.48 | JY` | the choice depend on desktop environnement |
| 13:19.55 | Maldivia | yeah - kmail is kde, evolution is gnome |
| 13:20.18 | cncfanatics | on gnome atm :) |
| 13:20.31 | cncfanatics | but if kmail is strictly superior I don't have problems with it, already using Qt for a few things anyway |
| 13:20.54 | cncfanatics | trying to get as much things as possible localy atm |
| 13:20.54 | Maldivia | evolution tries to be an outlook clone |
| 13:21.02 | cncfanatics | never liked outlook |
| 13:21.07 | Maldivia | so contains calendar, tasks aswel |
| 13:21.08 | mitch0 | no wonder... |
| 13:21.27 | Maldivia | well, if forced to work with an exchange server, the options are kind of limited |
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| 13:27.39 | p3lim | forums fixed now? |
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| 13:31.17 | Repo | 10prescription_pickup: 03Starinnia * r32 Core.lua: Prescription_Pickup: small tweak |
| 13:34.12 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal * r2 .pkgmeta: first checkin |
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| 13:39.25 | Repo | 10omen: 03Xinhuan 06wrath * 22759746a2e3 /: Initial commit of Omen3. |
| 13:39.25 | Repo | This has no config, no syncing, no parsing of combat log, and just uses pure Blizzard threat API and threat values. |
| 13:40.08 | Xinhuan | ok that wasn't too difficult |
| 13:40.11 | Stanzilla | omg omen :O |
| 13:40.40 | Xinhuan | trust me, its quite ugly at this moment |
| 13:41.04 | Xinhuan | and half my addon folders are messed up with git and svn |
| 13:42.41 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal * r6 : first checkin |
| 13:44.59 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia 04v2.0.9 Release * r86 : |
| 13:45.01 | Repo | Tagging as v2.0.9 Release. Final version in 2.0 line, WoW 3.0 means SMD 3.0 |
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| 13:46.25 | Repo | 10mobile-vault: 03Starinnia 04v1.0.9 * r67 : Tagging as v1.0.9. |
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| 13:47.09 | Unrealii | ¤¦¤¦8071 |
| 13:47.46 | Obelixprime | Does anyone know if Sinister Reflections are Demons? |
| 13:48.55 | Xinhuan | Kaelten, poke |
| 13:49.16 | Kaelten | eck |
| 13:49.19 | Kaelten | who's poking me? |
| 13:49.30 | Kaelten | netcurse: I made a mistake |
| 13:49.31 | Xinhuan | me hehe |
| 13:49.39 | Kaelten | I sat down at the computer before making it into the office |
| 13:49.42 | Xinhuan | i can't seem to upload an avatar for http://www.wowace.com/home/ |
| 13:49.45 | Kaelten | and they've managed to suck me in :s |
| 13:49.56 | Kaelten | Xinhuan: ya going to look into that today, do it at curseforge.com/home |
| 13:49.59 | Kaelten | it'll bleed over |
| 13:50.06 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 13:50.18 | Fisker- | bleeds over Kaelten |
| 13:50.30 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 13:50.32 | Fisker- | you fixed my curse |
| 13:50.38 | Kaelten | ? |
| 13:50.48 | Xinhuan | wow i logged over to curseforge and saw a flood of tickets |
| 13:51.06 | Vulcanus | OMAN 3 DUN WURK. FIX PLZ |
| 13:51.07 | Hjalte | Xinhuan: That's funny, you're linking to my page! |
| 13:51.07 | Fisker- | Kaelten the "-" and "_" problem |
| 13:51.17 | Kaelten | :) |
| 13:51.17 | Hjalte | Xinhuan: :P |
| 13:51.39 | Fisker- | So when can you go premium? :P |
| 13:51.44 | Fisker- | When the free "trial" goes away? |
| 13:53.00 | Pneumatus | are the random daily quests the same across different realms on any one day, and possibly the same between EU/US? |
| 13:53.19 | Fisker- | They are random for each realm |
| 13:53.49 | Xinhuan | hah blizzard reverting their honor wipe |
| 13:53.51 | Pneumatus | can the horde/alliance pvp quests be different on any one day? |
| 13:54.01 | Fisker- | That i do not know |
| 13:54.04 | Kalroth | Xinhuan: they're also nerfing mobs health :( |
| 13:54.11 | Fisker- | wut? |
| 13:54.20 | Xinhuan | which mobs |
| 13:54.24 | Xinhuan | are you talking about |
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| 13:54.28 | Kalroth | 30% less health on all raid instance mobs on PTR |
| 13:54.36 | Kalroth | KZ, ZA, Sunwell, you pick one |
| 13:54.38 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 13:54.40 | Maldivia | what? |
| 13:54.45 | Stanzilla | wtf? |
| 13:54.48 | Fisker- | that's 3 million off brutallus |
| 13:54.53 | Fisker- | or brutalicus or whatever |
| 13:54.57 | Xinhuan | err i hope you're kidding |
| 13:55.01 | Stanzilla | bluepost link? |
| 13:55.07 | Maldivia | are they lowering the reset to 3 days aswell, for easy farming? |
| 13:55.07 | Kalroth | http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t32253-patch_3_02_discussion/p4/#post917007 |
| 13:55.17 | Kalroth | "Every single mob and boss in raidinstances we saw on PTR has had its maxhp nerfed by 30%. We have visited Kara, ZA and Gruul's lair." |
| 13:55.29 | Kalroth | "An ilvl141 ring has dropped from the 4th chest, looks like it has the same loot table now as the 3rd chest." |
| 13:55.57 | Kalroth | I guess the easiest way to confirm it would be to try it yourself |
| 13:56.05 | nevcairiel | the low lvl instances are probably a perfect indicator for sunwell |
| 13:56.07 | Kalroth | Since there's no blue post. |
| 13:56.09 | Xinhuan | well so that's just PTR? |
| 13:56.16 | Fisker- | Kalroth link the post instead of the position |
| 13:56.16 | Fisker- | :P |
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| 13:56.21 | Fisker- | Position is account based |
| 13:56.27 | Kalroth | http://elitistjerks.com/917007-post181.html |
| 13:56.35 | Kalroth | and http://elitistjerks.com/917335-post182.html |
| 13:56.48 | Fisker- | Well should be possible to target the first bosses in BT |
| 13:57.01 | Fisker- | LOL |
| 13:57.05 | Fisker- | my authenticator code was 000042 |
| 13:57.15 | dafire | i got 322222 .) |
| 13:57.21 | Kalroth | "My guild did Kalecgos and Brutallus last night on PTR. We had no mods and alot of giddy raiders trying out their new abilities, glyphs and the such and in no way were even close to taking it serious and killed him in 3 minutes." |
| 13:57.24 | Fisker- | 000042 as in 42 dafire :) |
| 13:57.29 | dafire | ya ya |
| 13:57.33 | Kalroth | http://elitistjerks.com/916338-post179.html |
| 13:58.06 | nevcairiel | not that it'll really matter, we'll have 2 weeks with the patch before expansion |
| 13:58.09 | dafire | it's probably the "let everyone enjoy all content the last days patch#" |
| 13:58.25 | vhaarr | Kalroth: you have any idea if they removed the Sunwell Radiance buff in 3.0? |
| 13:58.27 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: it matters for me :p we're currently working on P4 of KJ :) |
| 13:58.29 | Kalroth | vhaarr: they did |
| 13:58.32 | vhaarr | phew |
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| 13:58.42 | vhaarr | if not our tanks would get instagibbed |
| 13:58.46 | Kalroth | your tanks will have about 10-15% more avoidance on Brut |
| 13:58.55 | vhaarr | yes, thank you |
| 13:59.15 | vhaarr | my warrior drops from 560 defense to 490 in his threat gear |
| 13:59.18 | Maldivia | almost sounds as if they retuned the lvl 70 25-man version to 10-man 80 version now? |
| 13:59.20 | Kalroth | the radiance is 20% less dodge and 5% more hits, but since they change how avoidance stacks, it's not that high |
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| 13:59.24 | vhaarr | probably around the same in avoidance gear |
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| 14:02.26 | neenee | Hm.. Does anyone know how I might retrieve my wowace forums password? For some reason I can't login with it anymore |
| 14:03.10 | Fisker- | Naj'entus got 2,65m hp |
| 14:03.13 | Fisker- | down from 3,8 |
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| 14:04.21 | Kalroth | Fisker-: Free loot! |
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| 14:10.08 | Repo | 10prescription: 03Starinnia 04v1.0.9 * r63 : Tagging as v1.0.9. |
| 14:10.19 | orionshock | is there a new google group i can watch ? or has that not been setup yet? |
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| 14:13.51 | Repo | 10prescription_pickup: 03Starinnia 04v1.0.0 * r33 : Tagging as v1.0.0. |
| 14:15.03 | Groktar | devours Repo's soul |
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| 14:19.53 | ckknight | Groktar: no devouring. |
| 14:20.01 | ckknight | light nibbling is acceptable |
| 14:20.26 | AckisWork | om nom noms ckk |
| 14:27.40 | Groktar | hehe |
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| 14:39.38 | Groktar | nibbles on Shirik |
| 14:42.48 | Repo | 10arl: 03Zhinjio 06wotlk-branch * r889 / (4 files in 1 directory): AckisRecipeList: |
| 14:42.49 | Repo | - added handlers for world drop, mob drop |
| 14:42.50 | Repo | - broke documentation to separate file |
| 14:42.51 | Repo | - no unknown handlers at this time |
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| 14:52.24 | Fisker- | In regards to the bosses |
| 14:52.39 | Fisker- | Just confirmed in the nerf in BT, SSC, SWP as well as trash |
| 14:53.08 | Fisker- | Not a complete 30% all the time, sometimes more sometimes less, but that could just be inaccuracies from the data addons etc. |
| 14:53.39 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic 04v2.0.0 * r391 : Tagging as v2.0.0. |
| 14:54.22 | Groktar | what nerf in bt? |
| 14:56.10 | Elgren | Guys, anyone can advice a good adon to ad a moveable/scaleable extra skillbar? except for bartender that breaks apart the blizzard graphics at the bottom of the screen |
| 14:57.13 | Elgren | no suggestions? :/ |
| 14:57.33 | Curses | You want to keep the original blizzard bars and just add something you can move or scale? |
| 14:57.37 | Fisker- | Groktar hitpoints |
| 14:57.40 | Elgren | ye |
| 14:57.49 | Fisker- | All raid mobs have hat their hitpoints reduced by around 30% |
| 14:57.50 | Elgren | Curses, correct |
| 14:57.55 | Repo | 10stable: 03LordFarlander 042.5-release * r54 : Stable: |
| 14:57.57 | Repo | - 2.5 doesn't exist used the wrong tag :p |
| 14:58.03 | Fisker- | hat = had :P |
| 14:58.11 | elite3vil | including bosses? |
| 14:58.19 | Fisker- | yes |
| 14:58.20 | Curses | Hmm, I don't know, almost all bar mods someone change the look of the blizzard bars |
| 14:58.23 | elite3vil | that for 3.0? |
| 14:58.34 | Curses | hmm how did that someone get in there :/ |
| 14:59.02 | vhaarr | ckknight: svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/auratochat/mainline/trunk seems to be broken |
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| 14:59.32 | Fisker- | elite3vil i guess so |
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| 14:59.38 | Fisker- | but it's not mentioned in any patch notes |
| 14:59.42 | Fisker- | so "could" be a bug |
| 14:59.43 | Elgren | I just wish I could keep the blizzard bottom bar intact with bartender |
| 14:59.55 | Fisker- | Though one could argue how changing hundres of mobs can be unintentional :P |
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| 15:00.30 | elite3vil | eh.. you know.. it *is* Blizzard |
| 15:00.51 | elite3vil | They change something in Sunwell, and it breaks stuff in Naxx, and a level 23 quest in 1k Needles |
| 15:01.17 | Fisker- | :) |
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| 15:06.43 | Repo | 10fubar_instanceinfofu: 03Belazor 04release * r38 : Tagging as release. |
| 15:06.54 | Vulcanus | I hope that works |
| 15:06.55 | Vulcanus | XD |
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| 15:07.11 | nevcairiel | you really shouldnt call your tag "release" <.< |
| 15:07.15 | Groktar | heh, i just scrolled up to see that it was a HP nerf |
| 15:07.23 | Vulcanus | oh? |
| 15:07.27 | Vulcanus | halp me then nef :( |
| 15:07.30 | Vulcanus | nev* |
| 15:07.37 | nevcairiel | Its the version number that will show up on your download |
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| 15:07.45 | Vulcanus | oh XD |
| 15:07.49 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4751 / (2 files in 2 directories): Removed externals and fixed .pkgmeta. |
| 15:08.15 | Repo | 10fubar_instanceinfofu: 03Belazor 041.0 * r39 : Tagging as 1.0. |
| 15:08.18 | Vulcanus | happy now? |
| 15:08.22 | nevcairiel | ya |
| 15:08.34 | Vulcanus | now I just need to fix its toc file and push it as release |
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| 15:11.15 | Vulcanus | so how did you do that toc thing with no-libs? |
| 15:11.54 | nevcairiel | huh? |
| 15:12.01 | nevcairiel | X-Embeds is no longer needed |
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| 15:12.25 | Vulcanus | I saw somebody mentioning something you wrap the lib definitions in the toc file in, so that disembedded would not have that line in the toc |
| 15:12.33 | nevcairiel | oh |
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| 15:12.48 | nevcairiel | yeah thats possible, but not required |
| 15:12.54 | nevcairiel | looks up the guide |
| 15:12.58 | Vulcanus | cheers |
| 15:13.18 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/repository-keyword-substitutions/ |
| 15:13.41 | nevcairiel | check the last section |
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| 15:14.35 | Vulcanus | "Turn into # stripping libraries" <-- wut? |
| 15:14.40 | Vulcanus | May has engrish? |
| 15:14.54 | Stanzilla | Vulcanus: http://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=239055&postcount=4 ? |
| 15:15.08 | Vulcanus | thats the place where I saw it, cheers |
| 15:16.26 | Vulcanus | just as soon as I thought I got the handle of correct way to use embeds.xml and x-embeds and whatever, and boom they go about changing it completely |
| 15:16.27 | Repo | 10error-monster: 03Rabbit * r75 / (2 files in 2 directories): Remove externals and fix .pkgmeta. |
| 15:16.31 | Vulcanus | *grumble* |
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| 15:17.40 | Funkeh` | ello |
| 15:17.48 | Vulcanus | y helo thar |
| 15:17.56 | Stanzilla | hi Funkeh` |
| 15:18.02 | leech2k | hi |
| 15:18.07 | Vulcanus | you need to bug Kaelten about getting your admin perms back funkeh :p |
| 15:18.22 | Vulcanus | I can only set the groups, not the actual admincp access params |
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| 15:18.28 | Funkeh` | for the forum I guess |
| 15:18.31 | Vulcanus | yar |
| 15:18.44 | Fisker- | so nevcairiel |
| 15:18.48 | Vulcanus | http://forums.wowace.com/showgroups.php <-- you notice anybody missing? |
| 15:18.49 | Fisker- | you done porting projects? |
| 15:18.59 | nevcairiel | no |
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| 15:21.02 | Stanzilla | Vulcanus: ckk? |
| 15:21.18 | Vulcanus | was he a mod or admin? |
| 15:21.24 | Stanzilla | uh dunno |
| 15:21.26 | ckknight | I forget |
| 15:21.32 | ckknight | remove ZealotOnAStick |
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| 15:22.14 | ckknight | Vulcanus: stick me on admin, in any case, I'm an admin for the normal site |
| 15:22.14 | leech2k | well thats wierd |
| 15:22.29 | Vulcanus | sec, I have kael going over it now :p |
| 15:22.34 | leech2k | yesterday I had 1 file under files... today I have like 20 :-) |
| 15:23.06 | Fisker- | Patch day is october 14th btw |
| 15:23.23 | Vulcanus | proof or gtfo |
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| 15:23.44 | Stanzilla | Weâre currently planning to end the fourth Arena season on October 14, 2008 < |
| 15:23.46 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5963200897&sid=1 |
| 15:24.11 | Legorol | That's not a proof of patch date. With Blizzard, you never know. They can end the season (and determine season rewards) on 14th October without patching. |
| 15:24.32 | Fisker- | Legorol |
| 15:24.37 | Legorol | Fisker- |
| 15:24.43 | Fisker- | The season would end with the release of the CONTENT PATCH |
| 15:24.46 | Fisker- | from the US |
| 15:24.51 | Fisker- | EU says Arena ENDS that date |
| 15:24.55 | dafire | they said weeks ago that they target mid october for the patch |
| 15:24.56 | Pneumatus | well it makes sense really, no point ending S4 on LK release as the gear would be useless |
| 15:25.00 | Fisker- | that means content patch releases said date |
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| 15:25.30 | Fisker- | October 14th was a very obvious date already yeah |
| 15:25.31 | dafire | it can always get pushed back if there are unforeseen problems but mid october was their target |
| 15:25.37 | Pneumatus | i mean, accumulating for s5, knowing it will be wiped once you ding 71 |
| 15:25.37 | Fisker- | but now it's official |
| 15:25.44 | Pneumatus | and s5 isnt gonna have any level 70 gear |
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| 15:26.05 | fewyn | doesnt say s5 starts on the 14th either |
| 15:26.05 | Legorol | All I'm saying that whilst it's officially confirmed that *Arena season* will end on 14th October, I'm still saying that doesn't mean that they neccessarily have to patch that day. |
| 15:26.15 | Legorol | They could end the season on 14th October and patch a week later. |
| 15:26.40 | Fisker- | As i said |
| 15:26.45 | Legorol | Until blue says that content patch is on 14th October, everything else is circumstantial |
| 15:26.46 | Fisker- | They have said they will end it when the content patch launches |
| 15:26.50 | Fisker- | so they couldn't |
| 15:27.42 | Pneumatus | 14th would be about right for 3.0 to be patched in anyway :) |
| 15:28.04 | Legorol | I totally agree that 14th is a reasonable date, I'm just saying that the currently available information doesn't confirm 14th as a patch date. |
| 15:28.20 | Pneumatus | not directly at least |
| 15:28.21 | leech2k | What is the status of addons pushing to curse? |
| 15:28.40 | Pneumatus | i was expecting a 2nd chunk of background downloader before 3.0 is pushed |
| 15:28.48 | Fisker- | Then you're unable to read Legorol |
| 15:28.53 | Pneumatus | the 992mb or whatever it was doesn't seem enough |
| 15:29.03 | Legorol | Fisker-: sure I'm able to. You have two blue posts (and I take your word on it): |
| 15:29.03 | Fisker- | Cause infact the currently available information does state it'll be out october 14th |
| 15:29.14 | Legorol | one that suggests that season 4 ends on 14th october |
| 15:29.26 | Legorol | another that suggests that they intend to end the season at the same time as they do the content patch |
| 15:29.35 | Fisker- | Blue != Suggestion |
| 15:29.42 | Pneumatus | wheres the blue post to say s4 ends when the new patch is released? |
| 15:30.03 | Fisker- | US forum somewhere |
| 15:30.05 | Legorol | Even if those two things were posted by blue, here is the thing: |
| 15:30.18 | Legorol | In a week's time, they can *still* decide to patch later, and still end season 4 on 14th October. |
| 15:30.24 | Fisker- | duh |
| 15:30.37 | Fisker- | They can also decide to postpone the expansion to 2009 |
| 15:30.48 | Fisker- | That doesn't change the official release date is november 13th 2008 |
| 15:31.02 | Legorol | All right, agreed. |
| 15:31.18 | Legorol | So unless otherwise stated, assume patch is on 14th October. Just don't be surprised if it gets separated from the S4 end date. |
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| 15:31.42 | Pneumatus | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10535470483&sid=1 |
| 15:31.43 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9237585330&sid=1 there it was |
| 15:31.51 | Pneumatus | "Were currently planning to end the fourth Arena season on October 14, 2008, and as always -- this date could easily change." |
| 15:32.19 | dafire | they said they make a snapshot on patch date |
| 15:32.33 | dafire | the rating from patch day will count for the rewards |
| 15:32.41 | dafire | but there will be no reset of points |
| 15:32.44 | Pneumatus | point is, that 14th of october is very speculative |
| 15:33.01 | Pneumatus | thats obviously the date they have in mind to be patching in 3.0, but can/may be changed |
| 15:33.08 | dafire | no it's not |
| 15:33.13 | Legorol | I think that the implications are the other way around: |
| 15:33.28 | Legorol | *if* they are patching on 14th October, *then* the S4 will definitely end on that date |
| 15:33.36 | Legorol | however, the reverse is not implied by any of the posts imo |
| 15:33.42 | Legorol | I don't see any post that states that |
| 15:33.49 | Legorol | *if* we end S4, *then* we'll patch on that day |
| 15:33.55 | dafire | if they patch later they will get in troubles with wotlk release .9 |
| 15:34.04 | Legorol | dafire: how so |
| 15:34.11 | Pneumatus | you think that they just took at random guess at a date and decided the 14th in the hope that that was the 3.0 patch day? |
| 15:34.12 | Legorol | they could patch two days before wotlk release |
| 15:34.14 | Fisker- | "the current arena season will end in respect to the ladder upon the release of our next major patch." |
| 15:34.27 | dafire | Legorol: they never would |
| 15:34.28 | Legorol | Fisker-: exactly |
| 15:34.40 | Groktar | they could, but it wouldn't be smart |
| 15:34.42 | Legorol | That sentence means that if the patch is released, that mandates a season finish |
| 15:34.50 | Fisker- | no |
| 15:34.52 | Fisker- | None of them are mutually exclusive |
| 15:34.54 | Groktar | because you know the servers are going to be jacked for a week after 3.0 comes |
| 15:34.57 | Legorol | However, I don't think that that sentence implies the reverse |
| 15:34.59 | Fisker- | If the arena season ends, the patch is released |
| 15:35.04 | Fisker- | if the patch is released, the arena season ends |
| 15:35.05 | Groktar | and they're not going to want to bork wotlk release |
| 15:35.06 | dafire | they expect many many account reactivations with wotlk .. and they will want to make sure everythink runs fine until then |
| 15:35.11 | Fisker- | There are no other alternatives |
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| 15:35.33 | dafire | s/everythink/everyting/ |
| 15:35.37 | Pneumatus | the season ending appears to be wholly dependant on the patching being released though... they have no reason to end the season at any other time |
| 15:35.46 | Legorol | Pneumatus: sure they do |
| 15:35.56 | Legorol | They have now announced planned S4 end date, that's always a serious thing |
| 15:35.59 | dafire | they can't end the season on an other date |
| 15:36.02 | Legorol | They may have to push the patch back due to technical reasons |
| 15:36.05 | Legorol | dafire: of course they can |
| 15:36.13 | Legorol | But they can still end S4 on 14th October |
| 15:36.14 | dafire | Legorol: no they can't |
| 15:36.14 | Polarina | What was the command to change the screenshot format to PNG or TIFF? |
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| 15:36.27 | Fisker- | Everything can be pushed back due to technical reasons |
| 15:36.29 | Elgren | Anyone got a suggestion for me? Im looking for a adon to add a extra skillbar. Not bartender since it split up blizzard bottom bar. |
| 15:36.32 | Groktar | idk, look in config.wtf |
| 15:36.35 | Pneumatus | dafire: "as always -- this date could easily change" |
| 15:36.39 | Legorol | dafire: how would you, or me, or anyone other than Blizzard know what they can and can't do? |
| 15:36.42 | Xinhuan | uh no, they never announced the s4 end date |
| 15:36.42 | Pneumatus | is that ambiguous? |
| 15:36.49 | Fisker- | that doesn't change that as far as they're concerned both S4 end and the patch release is the same date |
| 15:36.57 | dafire | the season ending is linked with the patch this time |
| 15:36.58 | Fisker- | They just did Xinhuan |
| 15:37.02 | Xinhuan | they didn't |
| 15:37.12 | dafire | they announced that they want to make a database dump with the ending |
| 15:37.14 | Xinhuan | they merely said it will be on 3.0 patch day, which doesn't have a fixed date yet |
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| 15:37.19 | Repo | LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 15:37.19 | Repo | - Standardize order of externals |
| 15:37.19 | Groktar | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10535470483&sid=1 |
| 15:37.22 | Repo | - Fixed path to externals (a lot that had unneeded hyphens have been renamed) |
| 15:37.22 | fewyn | and as always -- this date could easily change. |
| 15:37.26 | Repo | - Standardize order of TOC, TOC version number includes revision as is my standard |
| 15:37.28 | Pneumatus | Xinhuan: have you been reading for the last 10 mins? |
| 15:37.34 | Pneumatus | Xinhuan: "Were currently planning to end the fourth Arena season on October 14, 2008" |
| 15:37.45 | Fisker- | fewyn |
| 15:37.46 | Legorol | dafire: I don't see how a database dump mandates patching |
| 15:37.50 | Fisker- | And as always the world could go under |
| 15:37.53 | Fisker- | LHC could blow up |
| 15:37.58 | Repo | 10baldrick: 03LordFarlander * r79 / (3 files in 1 directory): Baldrick: |
| 15:37.58 | Fisker- | Your mom could be having sex with another man |
| 15:37.59 | Repo | - Standardize order of externals |
| 15:37.59 | Fisker- | etc. |
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| 15:38.01 | Repo | - Standardize order of TOC, TOC version number includes revision as is my standard |
| 15:38.02 | dafire | Legorol: it mandates downtime |
| 15:38.03 | fewyn | THE LHC IS GOING TO MAKE A BLACK HOLE |
| 15:38.08 | fewyn | LETS ALL DIED |
| 15:38.11 | Legorol | dafire: and you can't have downtime without a patch? |
| 15:38.13 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 15:38.21 | Pneumatus | the snapshot could be made in regular maintaince tho |
| 15:38.27 | Polarina | fewyn: It has been shut down until sprint 2009. |
| 15:38.28 | Groktar | Pneumatus: the reason for ending the season wrt the ladder is suspected class imbalances at 70 with the patch |
| 15:38.30 | dafire | Legorol: but they want to make the dump to seperate old talent and new talent pvp |
| 15:38.35 | Repo | 10simple-self-rebuff: 03Adirelle * r177 libs/: Fixed svn:externals. |
| 15:38.40 | dafire | how much sense would that make without patch ? |
| 15:38.47 | Groktar | ^ |
| 15:38.52 | Pneumatus | but yeh, there's no way that S4 will end _after_ the patch |
| 15:38.55 | Legorol | dafire: you can make that dump at any point up to and prior to the patch |
| 15:39.05 | Groktar | yes, but why would you? |
| 15:39.12 | Legorol | I think we all agree that they can't realistically end S4 *after* the patch, but there's nothing preventing them from ending it *before* the patch |
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| 15:39.17 | dafire | Legorol: i think you have a problem to understand why they end s4 |
| 15:39.20 | Pneumatus | if they decide to patch in 3.0 next week, S4 will end then |
| 15:39.24 | Legorol | dafire: not at all |
| 15:39.29 | Groktar | give people an opportunity to get as high as they can in the ladder |
| 15:39.29 | dafire | sure you have |
| 15:39.30 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r69 / (2 files in 1 directory): Coconuts: |
| 15:39.30 | Pneumatus | which is highly unlikely seeing as how broken things are still |
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| 15:39.32 | Repo | - Standardize order of TOC, TOC version number includes revision as is my standard |
| 15:39.42 | Legorol | My point is: season end date is a serious thing that they need to announce 2 weeks in advance. |
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| 15:39.48 | Repo | - Standardize order of TOC, TOC version number includes revision as is my standard |
| 15:39.49 | Legorol | Patch date is not something that they have to announce in advance. |
| 15:39.56 | Repo | 10stable: 03LordFarlander * r55 / (2 files in 1 directory): Stable: |
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| 15:40.02 | Repo | - Fixed path to externals (a lot that had unneeded hyphens have been renamed) |
| 15:40.03 | dafire | but it is bound togther this time |
| 15:40.06 | Repo | - Standardize order of TOC, TOC version number includes revision as is my standard |
| 15:40.07 | Legorol | Obviously they can't put the season end date after the patch |
| 15:40.18 | Legorol | dafire: give me one reason why it *has to be* bound together |
| 15:40.20 | Pneumatus | Legorol: if they decide to patch 3.0 in next week then S4 end will have to move... |
| 15:40.27 | Legorol | What's stopping them from ending the season a week before the patch? |
| 15:40.29 | Repo | 10tabard: 03LordFarlander * r41 / (3 files in 1 directory): Tabard: |
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| 15:40.36 | Groktar | Legorol: they don't *have* to do anything |
| 15:40.41 | Legorol | Pneumatus: I agree |
| 15:40.42 | Groktar | but it doesn't make sense to end it just to end it |
| 15:40.44 | Pneumatus | but they can do whatever the hell they want |
| 15:40.59 | Legorol | That's what I'm saying too. Patch pretty much mandates S4 ending. But not the other way around. |
| 15:40.59 | Pneumatus | S4 may end before 3.0 is patched, but not vice-versa |
| 15:41.00 | Groktar | "hey, i feel like ending the season today for no reason" |
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| 15:41.03 | dafire | Legorol: because it is no real end of s4 .. it is just a dump they want to do when they patch. read their posts. |
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| 15:41.08 | Legorol | Pneumatus: exactly |
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| 15:41.30 | Groktar | also, they said the date could change |
| 15:41.34 | Pneumatus | however, they may want to be patching 3.0 at the same time to give the new honor rewards |
| 15:41.45 | Vulcanus | INTERNETS |
| 15:41.47 | Groktar | if they were planning on ending it before the patch, why would it be subject to change? |
| 15:41.48 | Vulcanus | SERIOS BUSSNESS |
| 15:41.56 | Legorol | dafire: you do realise that ending a season has serious implications: determining top rated teams, season rewards etc. That's why they try to announce the season end date 2 weeks in advance. |
| 15:42.16 | Pneumatus | the S4 drakes arent currently in the data files either are they? which would imply they need to patch 3.0 in to give out new drakes |
| 15:42.19 | Legorol | However, none of this requires the patch to be applied on the same day. |
| 15:42.33 | Legorol | Pneumatus: they have delayed handing out drakes before. |
| 15:42.38 | Legorol | I don't see the problem |
| 15:43.09 | Groktar | this is a stupid conversation |
| 15:43.11 | Legorol | When S4 ends (regardless of whether it's a patch day or not), they can dump the state of the ladders. That's an administrative task. |
| 15:43.16 | Groktar | wanders off to take a shower |
| 15:43.20 | Legorol | They can patch 3.0 in whenever they want on or after S4 end date |
| 15:44.28 | dafire | but they already announced in their forum that they will do it with the patch.. that the day they patch is the day that counts for the rewards of s4 |
| 15:44.46 | dafire | and that they won't reset points |
| 15:44.59 | dafire | so it's not a real season ending |
| 15:45.09 | Legorol | dafire: and this announcement is as sure as the announcement was about honor points being wiped, right? ;-) |
| 15:45.32 | dafire | Legorol: it is as long as they don't post otherwise |
| 15:45.47 | dafire | so don't cry that you didn't get a 2 weeks warning when they patch ;) |
| 15:46.07 | Legorol | no worries, I won't, I never said they *won't* patch on 14th October |
| 15:46.38 | nevcairiel | I did! |
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| 15:46.42 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 15:46.52 | Legorol | nevcairiel wins the intarwebz |
| 15:46.56 | Pneumatus | lol @ mmo-champ |
| 15:47.19 | nevcairiel | mmo-c always assumes stuff like that |
| 15:47.20 | Pneumatus | they are giving a "95% chance to happen" of 3.0.2 being patched in on the 14th |
| 15:47.22 | nevcairiel | its silly |
| 15:47.27 | Pneumatus | such wild assumptions |
| 15:47.43 | nevcairiel | I give them 2 weeks more |
| 15:47.48 | nevcairiel | so we have 2 weeks of 3.0 before patch |
| 15:47.50 | Fisker- | I never said they would release it |
| 15:47.51 | nevcairiel | er |
| 15:47.53 | nevcairiel | before expansion |
| 15:47.56 | Fisker- | But bar no unforseen issues it would |
| 15:47.59 | Pneumatus | no later than the 28th, id imagine |
| 15:48.01 | dafire | since blizzard said weeks ago that this is their target date it's not that speculatative |
| 15:48.05 | Pneumatus | but the 14th definatly sounds reasonable |
| 15:48.14 | nevcairiel | thats only 2 weeks from now |
| 15:48.19 | nevcairiel | i seriously doubt it |
| 15:48.38 | Pneumatus | i dont, they will patch broken classes in and fix them on the LK patch |
| 15:48.50 | Pneumatus | or just leave them broken (95% probable) |
| 15:49.03 | dafire | with 2.0 it was the same.. the talents were not final and changed with the mini patch that startet the bc event |
| 15:49.05 | Fisker- | http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3251/anonfailwo1.jpg <-what happened to 4chan? :( |
| 15:49.24 | nevcairiel | Pneumatus: didnt you just blame mmo-c for wild assumptions? now defending that day? =P |
| 15:49.35 | Pneumatus | irony > nevcairiel |
| 15:49.45 | nevcairiel | irony on irc is fail |
| 15:49.50 | Pneumatus | evidently |
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| 15:50.20 | Pneumatus | i wouldnt put a 95% probability on it, regardless :P |
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| 15:51.27 | dafire | a game breaking bug might change it.. but i doubt they postphone it because of some balancing problems |
| 15:51.51 | nevcairiel | one month with the patch before expansion still seems awfully long |
| 15:52.11 | nevcairiel | with BC it only was that long because christmas the devs had off :p |
| 15:52.29 | dafire | i don't think they got more then a week of |
| 15:53.09 | dafire | i know several game developer and they would never get vacation that short before an release .) |
| 15:53.10 | digmouse_ | any alchemy leveling guide? |
| 15:53.39 | Fisker- | nevcairiel TBC was a month prior as well |
| 15:53.46 | Fisker- | December 5th i believe |
| 15:53.52 | Fisker- | was launched january 16th |
| 15:54.33 | nevcairiel | Also with all the issues they have with arena-winner assignments etc, i would bet that they release the patch one week later |
| 15:54.41 | nevcairiel | to split the shit-storm into two |
| 15:55.27 | dafire | they don't need to do the assignements with that date |
| 15:55.36 | dafire | they just snapshot the data at this point |
| 15:55.41 | nevcairiel | we'll be taking a snapshot of the season's ladder and then go through our normal process to determine who is eligible for the end-of-season rewards. This process should take approximately one week. |
| 15:55.45 | nevcairiel | quote ^ |
| 15:55.59 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r884 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 15:56.00 | Repo | Remove svn:externals to help with checking out since we have .pkgmeta, and updated .pkgmeta |
| 15:56.06 | dafire | "For starters, the current arena season will end in respect to the ladder upon the release of our next major patch. What this means is, we'll be taking a snapshot of the current season's ladder just before the realms are taken down for patch maintenance," |
| 15:56.11 | dafire | ^ quote |
| 15:56.16 | Fisker- | Well nevcairiel it's split already then :P |
| 15:56.28 | Fisker- | If the patch is released at the same time there's a weeks notice on the arena shit storm |
| 15:56.46 | dafire | they maybe need 2 weeks to get the rewards out |
| 15:56.56 | dafire | but they will take the snapshot on patch day |
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| 15:57.30 | dafire | i guess some help worker will get that database into his excel sheet and looking for the winners :9 |
| 15:57.37 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:57.46 | nevcairiel | that sounds almost as fun as merging projects |
| 15:57.50 | nevcairiel | do not want, anymore |
| 15:57.51 | dafire | lol |
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| 15:58.05 | nevcairiel | 104 left :( |
| 15:58.15 | Fisker- | Well giev admin |
| 15:58.17 | Fisker- | i'll do it for you |
| 15:58.22 | Polarina | I got into The Storms Peak without a flying mount, and pass the big mountains. |
| 15:58.45 | nevcairiel | great for you, its still not fun to be in there without flying |
| 15:59.10 | Fisker- | Most of the zone requires flying mount |
| 15:59.14 | Fisker- | as well as icecrown |
| 15:59.37 | Polarina | Fisker-: I'm not in the K3 area. |
| 15:59.38 | Fisker- | i absolutely love the dragon quest where you chase others by changing mounts |
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| 16:03.23 | Vulcanus | ckknight fix svn |
| 16:03.28 | Vulcanus | username no wurk |
| 16:03.39 | Vulcanus | authentication error from server: username not found |
| 16:03.58 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 16:04.03 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 16:04.05 | ckknight | what's it say? |
| 16:04.07 | ckknight | username = vulcanus? |
| 16:04.09 | ckknight | how are you logging in, svn:// or svn+ssh://? |
| 16:04.19 | Vulcanus | svn:// - curse.com username is Belazor |
| 16:04.27 | nevcairiel | Vulcanus: try all lower case |
| 16:04.28 | Vulcanus | tried both belazor and Belazor, no wurk |
| 16:04.32 | nevcairiel | hm |
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| 16:06.10 | ckknight | Vulcanus: did you set your svn password? |
| 16:06.14 | Vulcanus | yes |
| 16:06.18 | Vulcanus | even 3 times :p |
| 16:06.34 | ckknight | okay |
| 16:06.35 | Vulcanus | and I did it from wowace.com |
| 16:06.38 | ckknight | that's fine |
| 16:06.43 | ckknight | what project you trying to checkout? |
| 16:06.57 | Vulcanus | http://www.wowace.com/projects/fubar_instanceinfofu/ |
| 16:07.03 | Vulcanus | checking out works, its committing that does not |
| 16:07.37 | ckknight | found the issue |
| 16:07.42 | ckknight | try again? |
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| 16:08.00 | Repo | 10fubar_instanceinfofu: 03Belazor * r40 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 16:08.01 | Repo | (Hopefully) fixed ToC and .pkgmeta, also removed svn:externals |
| 16:08.04 | Vulcanus | w00t |
| 16:08.06 | Vulcanus | cheers |
| 16:08.09 | Vulcanus | what was the issue? |
| 16:08.37 | ckknight | the repository manager got borked a bit earlier, your password never hit the repos server |
| 16:08.39 | ckknight | I'm fixing it now |
| 16:09.03 | Vulcanus | oic |
| 16:09.17 | Vulcanus | so the correct way to tag it to get it public would be like v1.0-release right? |
| 16:09.27 | ckknight | I prefer just v1.0 |
| 16:09.30 | ckknight | but it's your choice |
| 16:09.51 | Vulcanus | it's a release only project (since it's so small and really cannot fail XD) so v1.0 is fine |
| 16:09.58 | Repo | 10fubar_instanceinfofu: 03Belazor 04v1.0 * r41 : Tagging as v1.0. |
| 16:10.04 | Xinhuan | ck, your knowledge base says all tags are packaged right? |
| 16:10.31 | Xinhuan | and whether its packaged as a beta or release depends on matching a regex? |
| 16:11.17 | Parnic | is syndication enabled already? :) |
| 16:11.45 | dafire | Xinhuan: yes |
| 16:11.54 | ulic | tags are just meta data right? they don't duplicate all the files right? unless you actually checked in changes to the tags? |
| 16:11.57 | Xinhuan | what if the tag is named "unstable"? |
| 16:12.04 | dafire | ulic: yes |
| 16:12.18 | dafire | Xinhuan: it will match "stable" :) |
| 16:12.26 | Xinhuan | that's what i'm thinking |
| 16:12.33 | Parnic | ulic: each tag is a copy of the trunk at the time the tag was made. they are copied into the tags dir |
| 16:12.58 | Parnic | so there is a duplication of files, but it's just a snapshot of your main line at the time the tag was made |
| 16:12.58 | dafire | Xinhuan: the regex is ^v?[0-9\.\-_]+$|release|stable |
| 16:13.10 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel said that wouldn't match unstable |
| 16:13.14 | Cheads | Parnic: does not look like syndication is enabled yet |
| 16:13.16 | Xinhuan | i disagreed! |
| 16:13.30 | NivFreak | holy shit |
| 16:13.37 | NivFreak | all TBC monsters health reduced by 30%? |
| 16:13.44 | NivFreak | I was expecting a nerf, but wow |
| 16:13.55 | Groktar | yeah... |
| 16:14.10 | Groktar | i reallly hope my guild gets KJ before it goes live |
| 16:14.15 | Groktar | 3% on monday night |
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| 16:14.17 | Groktar | >< |
| 16:14.29 | dafire | Xinhuan: it should match everything that contains stable :9 |
| 16:14.46 | Tinyboom | Groktar: link to blue? |
| 16:14.56 | Cheads | does the curse client have some log of what was updated? |
| 16:15.14 | Tinyboom | Groktar: nvm |
| 16:16.16 | netcursed | curseclient.log |
| 16:16.46 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: that regex doesnt even match v1.0-stable, nor does it match v1.0-unstable .. unless regex rules changed in the last week :P |
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| 16:17.16 | dafire | nevcairiel: uhm... of course it will |
| 16:17.29 | dafire | | is or |
| 16:17.31 | nevcairiel | test it |
| 16:18.36 | Groktar | haha, this show is great |
| 16:18.44 | Groktar | he compared greenpeace to the kkk |
| 16:18.52 | Fisker- | tickles nevcairiel |
| 16:19.10 | Xinhuan | ^v?[0-9\.\-_]+$|release|stable would match v1.0-stable |
| 16:19.16 | Xinhuan | because stable matches it |
| 16:19.19 | dafire | nevcairiel: i tested .) |
| 16:19.21 | Xinhuan | there isn't a ^ or $ |
| 16:19.31 | Xinhuan | before or after the "stable" |
| 16:19.35 | Parnic | it would also match v1.0-unstable |
| 16:19.54 | dafire | it would also match v0.1-constabler |
| 16:20.09 | nevcairiel | then my regex treats it differently, it only matches v1.0 for me |
| 16:20.44 | Xinhuan | sounds like you have a non-standard regex parser ;p |
| 16:21.04 | AckisWork | v1.0 == beta? |
| 16:21.09 | sylvanaar | typhoon was fun again |
| 16:21.14 | nevcairiel | there is no "standard" regex parser :p |
| 16:21.14 | sylvanaar | just got hotfixed |
| 16:21.38 | Parnic | did you mean to do this? ^(v?[0-9\.\-_]+|release|stable)$ |
| 16:21.48 | dafire | i usually test regex with "Rx Toolkit" from komodo |
| 16:21.52 | sylvanaar | been having a blast all morning - then all of a sudden - nothing |
| 16:22.02 | Xinhuan | check this screenshot out lol: http://i34.tinypic.com/v5l9b6.jpg |
| 16:22.06 | nevcairiel | Posix regex only matches v1.0 |
| 16:22.14 | nevcairiel | or rather v1.0- |
| 16:22.21 | nevcairiel | everything behind that isnt matched |
| 16:22.23 | Legorol | a posix extended regex should match stable if you are doing ^v?[0-9\.\-_]+$|release|stable |
| 16:22.37 | nevcairiel | it matches "stable" alone, yeah |
| 16:22.43 | nevcairiel | but not the -stable within a longer combination |
| 16:22.54 | Parnic | that regex is not matching anything on either side of "stable", just the letters |
| 16:22.58 | nevcairiel | it should be like |
| 16:23.01 | Parnic | which means that "asodifhasdfistableaihsaifhd" would match just fine |
| 16:23.08 | Legorol | nevcairiel: sounds like something wrong with the parser |
| 16:23.21 | Legorol | the posix extended regex definiton implies that | is the lowest precedent operator |
| 16:23.24 | Parnic | or "completely unstable, do not use" would also match "stable" |
| 16:23.48 | Legorol | therefore an expression of the form ^abc$|def should match "abc", should not match "abcd", should match "def" and should match "defg" |
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| 16:24.30 | nevcairiel | ^v?[0-9\.\-_]+(stable|release)?$ |
| 16:24.31 | Parnic | if you were intending to match just "vX.Y" or "release" or "stable", you could use: ^(v?[0-9\.\-_]+|release|stable)$ |
| 16:24.33 | nevcairiel | that sound right? |
| 16:24.53 | ckknight | Parnic: that's not what I want |
| 16:24.56 | ckknight | no, nevcairiel |
| 16:25.11 | ckknight | ^v?[0-9\.\-_]+$|stable|release |
| 16:25.32 | nevcairiel | I agree with that regex being totally wrong |
| 16:25.33 | dafire | the whole point of the discussion was that -unstable will match the stable trigger |
| 16:25.36 | nevcairiel | just on different terms as the others |
| 16:25.53 | ckknight | in any event, we shouldn't force people to put stable or release in, I like just having v0.1 |
| 16:26.07 | ckknight | we could do \bstable\b or something |
| 16:26.13 | digmouse_ | ckknight: does the new curse client have a localization plan? |
| 16:26.22 | nevcairiel | just leave the words out, imho |
| 16:26.23 | ckknight | what do you mean by that? |
| 16:26.28 | nevcairiel | anything that needs explanation is beta :P |
| 16:26.32 | Xinhuan | well who is correct ckknight? nev or us? |
| 16:26.43 | ckknight | Xinhuan: what's your argument? |
| 16:26.58 | Xinhuan | whether ^(v?[0-9\.\-_]+|release|stable)$ would match a tag named "unstable" |
| 16:27.02 | Xinhuan | not that i mean |
| 16:27.06 | Xinhuan | i mean ^v?[0-9\.\-_]+$|stable|release |
| 16:27.16 | dafire | maybe instead of matching for release match for beta... .) |
| 16:27.19 | netcurse | digmouse_, we built it to support localisation, german and french would be the first, but we do have lots of work left on the client itself ;) |
| 16:27.30 | dafire | so everything is release if it does not contain a b |
| 16:27.31 | dafire | .) |
| 16:27.52 | dafire | v0.1-beta or v0.1b |
| 16:28.03 | ckknight | Xinhuan: it would match unstable |
| 16:28.10 | Xinhuan | that's what i thought |
| 16:28.12 | ckknight | Xinhuan: I'll probably add \b's in to stop that |
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| 16:33.00 | digmouse | I mean, will the new curse client be available in other languages? |
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| 16:35.34 | ulic | there is no need for X-AceForum & X-RelSite-Curse anymore right, those where pretty wowace wiki specific. |
| 16:35.45 | nevcairiel | ya |
| 16:36.01 | Industrial | X-YourSistersCellNumber |
| 16:36.11 | nevcairiel | that we still need |
| 16:36.21 | ulic | she's married, sorry. |
| 16:36.38 | Polarina | Which of these screen-shots do you think looks better? http://www.simnet.is/gabrielp/screenshots/world-of-warcraft/wrath-of-the-lich-king/beta/stormspeak-1.jpg or http://www.simnet.is/gabrielp/screenshots/world-of-warcraft/wrath-of-the-lich-king/beta/stormspeak-2.jpg |
| 16:36.45 | ulic | also X-Category can probably go too, since it's set via the web. |
| 16:37.07 | Xinhuan | X-category is used by ingame code |
| 16:37.13 | Xinhuan | such as fubar |
| 16:37.24 | Xinhuan | or addon control addons |
| 16:37.29 | ulic | ah ok |
| 16:37.32 | Xinhuan | to organize into separate dropdowns |
| 16:37.34 | Industrial | Polarina: first, second is more upcose and you can see edges more of thinfs that are supposed to be "round" (pillars) |
| 16:37.46 | Industrial | Polarina: also, wow is so cartoony Q_Q |
| 16:37.59 | Polarina | Industrial: o.O |
| 16:38.19 | Industrial | yeah I really dislike that :P btw realism |
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| 16:39.34 | Repo | Add newest dataminer to the file and rename documentation file |
| 16:39.48 | Polarina | Industrial: Then look at the water at http://www.simnet.is/gabrielp/screenshots/world-of-warcraft/wrath-of-the-lich-king/beta/valgarde-utgardekeep.jpg |
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| 16:41.52 | Funkeh` | ulic, I'd keep the X-RelSite just now |
| 16:43.17 | ulic | oh yea? ok. |
| 16:46.15 | kenlyric | wow is cartoony because "realism" looks like shit |
| 16:47.04 | Funkeh` | what ^ said |
| 16:47.06 | Josh_Borke | Polarina: looks like real water to me! |
| 16:47.08 | digmouse | uh how to export pitbull layout? |
| 16:47.09 | Vulcanus | unless it requires a 9800GTX to run, like The Witcher or Oblivion |
| 16:47.10 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 16:47.20 | Polarina | Josh_Borke: xD |
| 16:47.23 | Funkeh` | The same reason TF2 is cartoony |
| 16:47.49 | Funkeh` | wtf at conan >.< |
| 16:48.03 | digmouse | the witcher dont need a 9800GTX :) |
| 16:48.35 | Vulcanus | if you intend to run it at 1920x1200 with everything on max, it does |
| 16:48.36 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 16:48.54 | digmouse | that a fact :D |
| 16:48.57 | Polarina | The Witcher isn't as good in English as it is in Polish. |
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| 16:49.21 | Vulcanus | Well I prefer to be immersed rather than piss myself of laughter from the dialogue |
| 16:49.21 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 16:49.50 | Vulcanus | Witcher is a game where I can't just sit down and play for 30 mins, I look up what I think is 5 mins later and it's actually 4 hours later |
| 16:49.51 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 16:50.07 | kenlyric | as long as you turn off their insane 16x antialiasing, the witcher can be run at max on an 8600 |
| 16:50.19 | Vulcanus | then it wouldn't be max would it |
| 16:50.20 | Vulcanus | XD |
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| 16:51.01 | Polarina | Exactly. |
| 16:51.06 | kenlyric | antialiasing is the biggest scam in graphics |
| 16:51.20 | Vulcanus | I still can't believe they released the Enhanced Edition for free for previous game owners |
| 16:51.39 | kenlyric | uh... |
| 16:51.44 | kenlyric | i'd expect bug fixes to be free |
| 16:51.53 | Polarina | kenlyric: A scam? Huh? |
| 16:51.57 | Vulcanus | bug fixes is like 1/5th of the EE |
| 16:52.00 | kenlyric | the extra missions are reward for suffering through a year of bugs |
| 16:52.06 | kenlyric | no, it was 99.5% of EE |
| 16:52.10 | Vulcanus | bs |
| 16:52.22 | kenlyric | 99.5% of the point of EE |
| 16:52.27 | Vulcanus | again BS |
| 16:52.35 | Vulcanus | redone dialogue to make it more extensive, remade model system to have less duplicates |
| 16:52.37 | kenlyric | "we've made the game playable, only $19.99 for current game owners!" |
| 16:52.42 | Vulcanus | free* |
| 16:52.48 | kenlyric | I consider the dialogue fixes to be bug fixes |
| 16:52.53 | Vulcanus | it is absolutely free for current game owners |
| 16:53.02 | Vulcanus | I know because I bought the original, normal edition |
| 16:53.08 | kenlyric | I know, I'm saying it would be idiotic to charge for anything but the extra missions. |
| 16:53.08 | Vulcanus | and I am now running a legal EE |
| 16:53.34 | kenlyric | or just be like EA |
| 16:53.36 | Repo | 10bwkh: 03Ackis * 2da0d341df92 /: Initial commit of git repo since I nuked the svn repo |
| 16:53.44 | kenlyric | make The witcher2008 with bug fixes |
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| 16:54.24 | Vulcanus | But still, a game that raked home almost every GOTY award it was nominated for, and the game devs actually spent the time and money to not only fix bugs but redo dialogue. It's quite rare in today's game development business |
| 16:55.40 | Vulcanus | You may call it "making the game playable" but for me (Vista x64 SP1) it was playable from day 1 (I bought it at patch 1.2 I think it was), and they have my respect for releasing the EE for free to me. They could have charged like $5 or something, but it was free. |
| 16:55.43 | Industrial | Polarina: you mean the repeating pattern in the water? yes. |
| 16:55.56 | mitchnull | what game are you talking about? |
| 16:55.58 | Vulcanus | The Witcher |
| 16:56.18 | mitchnull | oh. never heard of it |
| 16:56.41 | Vulcanus | if you like mature-rated CRPGs, you must play it |
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| 16:57.24 | mitchnull | mature-rated means it's full of tits and stuff? :) |
| 16:57.43 | Industrial | and gore? |
| 16:57.54 | Vulcanus | tits, gore, swearing |
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| 16:58.15 | Vulcanus | "Your mother sucks dwarf cock!" <-- random quote from when you're near a fistfight |
| 16:58.48 | Industrial | lol. |
| 16:58.53 | kenlyric | tits and pussies |
| 16:58.56 | Industrial | fun :O |
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| 16:59.05 | kenlyric | the first sex card has a pussy |
| 16:59.12 | kenlyric | (cat) |
| 16:59.17 | Industrial | :p |
| 16:59.18 | kenlyric | strategically places |
| 16:59.20 | kenlyric | *d |
| 16:59.26 | kenlyric | it's quite subtle |
| 16:59.30 | kenlyric | or, the opposite of subtle |
| 16:59.33 | kenlyric | juvenile |
| 16:59.59 | Vulcanus | the sex cards are censored if you get the US version yes |
| 17:00.03 | Vulcanus | <-- EU |
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| 17:00.10 | Vulcanus | we have them uncensored XD |
| 17:00.20 | kenlyric | what's censored on them? |
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| 17:00.37 | Vulcanus | for instance, your dryad sex cards have hair flowing over the twat |
| 17:00.39 | Vulcanus | ours do not |
| 17:00.49 | kenlyric | no cat in the EU version |
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| 17:00.51 | kenlyric | lame |
| 17:01.04 | Vulcanus | the cat is still there, just its not covering anything XD |
| 17:01.05 | kenlyric | the cat was more clever than anything else surrounding the sex cards |
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| 17:01.08 | fauxpas | this discussion is so worthless without screenshots |
| 17:01.17 | Adirelle_ | right |
| 17:01.29 | mitchnull | :) |
| 17:01.31 | Stanzilla | http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Sex_Town_Clerk.jpg |
| 17:01.33 | Vulcanus | fauxpas: http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Sex_Cards_by_Act |
| 17:01.37 | kenlyric | http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Sex_Triss_Merigold1.jpg |
| 17:01.38 | Stanzilla | heh |
| 17:01.40 | Vulcanus | stanz hax |
| 17:01.41 | Industrial | Polarina: I want that kind of realism in wow :P |
| 17:02.22 | kenlyric | where's the EU version of triss? |
| 17:02.28 | ag` | lol Stanzilla |
| 17:02.29 | fauxpas | they actually censor that? wow :P |
| 17:02.30 | ag` | the witcher :D |
| 17:02.35 | Industrial | Polarina: http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/witcher/images//f/f0/Over_the_Shoulder_view.jpg |
| 17:02.53 | Vulcanus | ew, low reso screenshots |
| 17:03.01 | Polarina | Industrial: I've seen that game. :) |
| 17:04.01 | fewyn[work] | bored |
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| 17:05.06 | Adirelle | ~Fisker - fewyn[work] |
| 17:05.20 | Adirelle | I'm disappointed |
| 17:05.23 | fewyn[work] | ? |
| 17:05.26 | fewyn[work] | What did i do now? |
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| 17:10.29 | fewyn[work] | i am really found of the forums now that it's vbulletin |
| 17:10.36 | fewyn[work] | means i can easily move around and post now! |
| 17:10.37 | fewyn[work] | whieeee |
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| 17:13.57 | Repo | 10querier: 03Ackis * r58 / (3 files in 1 directory): Update .pkgmeta and externals.txt |
| 17:15.05 | Vulcanus | AckisWork where's the dry-code notice |
| 17:15.13 | Vulcanus | YOU'RE RUINING EVERYTHING |
| 17:15.15 | Vulcanus | EVERYTHING |
| 17:15.17 | Vulcanus | ;_; |
| 17:15.22 | fewyn[work] | slaps AckisWork around a bit with a large trout |
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| 17:19.06 | Tuller | hey Kaelten, what are the steps to become able to edit wowaceSVN projects? :P |
| 17:19.09 | AckisWork | I haven't done any coding :P |
| 17:19.29 | Kaelten | Tuller: if you need to claim one of yours just link me |
| 17:19.37 | Kaelten | if you just want to work on them they should all be open |
| 17:20.01 | Tuller | well here's what i'm trying to do: basically commit to the public keybound project |
| 17:20.07 | *** join/#wowace Dashkal (n=dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 17:20.23 | Tuller | login information seems to not work, and ssh seems to blow up |
| 17:20.24 | Kaelten | all the projects should have been imported so any registered user can commit to them |
| 17:20.42 | Kaelten | ckknight: any ideas on that one? |
| 17:21.07 | ckknight | Tuller: can you ssh into svn.wowace.com? |
| 17:21.16 | ckknight | it should tell you you don't have a command |
| 17:21.27 | Tuller | tortoise blows up on attempting to |
| 17:21.44 | ckknight | I need an error message |
| 17:21.59 | Repo | 10hits-mode: 03Allara 07wotlk * r39 : Create wotlk branch |
| 17:22.06 | ckknight | oh, I see your issue |
| 17:22.35 | EthanCentaurai | hugs ckknight. |
| 17:22.39 | Tuller | so does putty :P |
| 17:22.53 | ckknight | Tuller: your pubkey was on 4 lines, not 1 |
| 17:22.55 | ckknight | hey EthanCentaurai |
| 17:22.56 | Tuller | no supported authentication available |
| 17:23.13 | ckknight | try now |
| 17:23.51 | EthanCentaurai | I can't get mSysGit to work on my XP box :( |
| 17:24.08 | Groktar | wants Vulcanus in his belly |
| 17:24.20 | Vulcanus | blushes |
| 17:24.30 | Fisker- | captures Groktar |
| 17:24.34 | Tuller | same sortof issue |
| 17:24.34 | mitchnull | git is a hack :) |
| 17:24.46 | Repo | 10cnf: 03Ackis * r2 / (6 files in 1 directory): Initial commit of repo since I nuked the other one. :( |
| 17:24.47 | EthanCentaurai | throws Groktar a gnome to nibble on |
| 17:24.49 | Tuller | using this as the url: svn+ssh://svn@svn.wowace.com/wow/libkeybound-1-0/mainline/trunk |
| 17:25.00 | Groktar | becomes aroused by Fisker-'s advance |
| 17:25.03 | Repo | 10hits-mode: 03Allara 07wotlk * r40 / (19 files in 4 directories): - Recommit of wotlk branch |
| 17:25.10 | Fisker- | lieks |
| 17:25.19 | sb | mh svn+ssh still not working here, dont get it |
| 17:25.34 | Tuller | tried the simple plaintex auth too, won't brake it |
| 17:25.42 | Tuller | err won't work that is :P |
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| 17:26.24 | Fisker- | wants wowace release >:E |
| 17:26.24 | [SW]Dodge | when will the wowace addons be available on curse.com? |
| 17:26.29 | Fisker- | hivemind |
| 17:26.43 | netcurse | today or tomorrow |
| 17:27.23 | Fisker- | Do you have a red button you can push on? |
| 17:27.59 | [SW]Dodge | netcurse: okay, but... uhm, what would be the best i can do with my old project i have on curseforge? |
| 17:28.44 | NivFreak | anyone have naxx 10 or 25 man combatlogs for a clear? |
| 17:28.52 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis * r30 / (4 files in 1 directory): Update files |
| 17:29.15 | Fisker- | clears NivFreak |
| 17:31.24 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis * r31 / (7 files in 2 directories): Fix database issues |
| 17:31.27 | fewyn[work] | at home i have some partials NivFreak |
| 17:31.35 | fewyn[work] | haven't had a chance to do a full clear yet |
| 17:32.06 | Dashkal | This may be of interest to wowace people as well (comment if interested): |
| 17:32.09 | Dashkal | @ticket curseforge 669 |
| 17:32.09 | Repo | Dashkal: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/669-subscription-email-for-repository-commits/. 669 - Subscription email for repository commits. Reported by: Dashkal. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 3 minutes ago. Component: Repositories. Status: New. Priority: Medium. Votes: 0. Comments: 0 |
| 17:32.10 | NivFreak | how does patchwerk's hatefuls work in 10man now? |
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| 17:33.47 | Jim-Bim | will fisheye be ported to the new svn, too? |
| 17:34.26 | Dashkal | Jim-Bim: Not fisheye itself, but there will be a repo browser |
| 17:35.02 | Jim-Bim | eta on this? |
| 17:35.26 | Dashkal | Last response I got was "after the wowace rollout" |
| 17:35.36 | Repo | 10welfareepics: 03Ackis * r77 / (2 files in 1 directory): Update externals and .pkgmeta |
| 17:35.40 | Dashkal | @ticket curseforge 347 |
| 17:35.41 | Repo | Dashkal: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/347-repository-browser/. 347 - Repository browser. Reported by: Dashkal. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 9 hours ago. Component: Repositories. Status: Accepted. Priority: Medium. Assignee: Kaelten. Votes: +65. Comments: 7 |
| 17:36.18 | Repo | 10welfareepics: 03Ackis * r78 : Really update externals |
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| 17:38.35 | Tornhoof | hmm is the wowace to curseforge import complete? |
| 17:38.39 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: status invalid layout == .pkgmeta = fucked? |
| 17:40.34 | nevcairiel | no idea |
| 17:42.48 | Repo | 10alttab: 03Ackis * a7f306efa726 / (2 files in 1 directory): Update version |
| 17:43.22 | ckknight | Tornhoof: basically, now we're just picking up the pieces |
| 17:43.49 | Tornhoof | ah just wondering why yata disappeared on curseforge |
| 17:45.11 | Kaelten | is anyone else getting white pages? |
| 17:45.24 | Kaelten | on the new forums? |
| 17:47.27 | dafire | no .. but that might be caused by php out of memory conditions |
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| 17:47.59 | dafire | if the script execution memory limit is too low .. |
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| 17:48.08 | dafire | in php.ini |
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| 17:48.48 | flak | ! |
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| 17:53.49 | flak | makes sure ckknight isn't around |
| 17:53.54 | flak | devours Repo |
| 17:56.07 | fewyn[work] | http://gallery.fewyn.net/v/WoWBarber/ |
| 17:56.40 | Dashkal | in that lighting that gnome totally looks like a goblin |
| 17:57.04 | fewyn[work] | well goblins do run the shop! |
| 17:57.16 | Repo | 10alttab: 03Ackis * bf2b5dae210f AltTabber.toc: (2 revisions total) |
| 17:57.17 | Repo | Update localization info in ToC |
| 17:57.18 | Repo | Update TOC with feedback, wowi and wowui release |
| 17:57.27 | chexsum_ | lolsmite: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?priest=553332003002012203030000000023455130202010200130000000000000000000000000000000000 |
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| 17:57.59 | kenlyric | that may be the worst spec ever designed |
| 17:58.12 | kenlyric | lightwell in a pvp spec.... |
| 17:58.14 | chexsum_ | ;) |
| 17:58.24 | chexsum_ | have you tried it ? |
| 17:58.35 | kenlyric | the one time you're almost certainly to lose 30% of your life at once :) |
| 17:58.37 | chexsum_ | its new and improved |
| 17:58.59 | flak | you frequently lose 30% of your life at once in pvp kenlyric? |
| 17:59.14 | flak | it's per attack, yes? |
| 17:59.21 | chexsum_ | yea |
| 17:59.25 | Tuller | ckknight: it didn't work :P |
| 17:59.29 | flak | so if i have 12k hp you'd need to hit me for 3600? |
| 17:59.38 | kenlyric | per hit, heh |
| 17:59.46 | kenlyric | why even have a breaking limit on it then |
| 17:59.51 | chexsum_ | unless youve got a trinketted pyro youre not dropping 4k off my health |
| 17:59.59 | kenlyric | I figured it was some kind of internal cooldown, damage in wo seconds or something |
| 18:00.30 | flak | is suspicious of lightwell and refuses and spec it |
| 18:00.33 | kenlyric | that'll be absolutely amazing for arena then. |
| 18:00.39 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5963180708&sid=1#9 <- so subtle |
| 18:01.01 | kenlyric | they'll have to add a debuff for arenas I'd think, that's a lot of healing. |
| 18:01.19 | kenlyric | poor disc priests |
| 18:01.28 | kenlyric | they'll have to buff the entire raid for spirit AND fort now |
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| 18:01.32 | flak | what a pointless thread |
| 18:01.37 | chexsum_ | ill heal myself better than a druid with that spec |
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| 18:01.58 | flak | i still wouldn't spec disc for a raid |
| 18:02.03 | NeoTron | is kind of interested to see if DW DK works out. |
| 18:02.09 | kenlyric | the end of imp fort |
| 18:02.18 | kenlyric | some sucker per raid will get forced into taking it |
| 18:02.25 | NeoTron | I was thinking abou the spell hit vs melee hit issue and DW has the benefit of not wasting hit on just 1-2 abiltiies |
| 18:02.34 | flak | 300hp? screw that |
| 18:03.17 | chexsum_ | imp forts the new imp spirit |
| 18:03.22 | chexsum_ | only looneys will take it |
| 18:03.38 | flak | hey now, we boxed imp spirit for our first brut and muru kills |
| 18:03.41 | kenlyric | 450 hp! |
| 18:04.12 | kenlyric | actually, it's right around 500hp |
| 18:04.14 | flak | installing tvs at mcdonalds was the worst idea ever |
| 18:04.18 | flak | they got fuckin pokemon going |
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| 18:05.22 | NeoTron | wow so they nerfed the HP of all BC raid bosses by 30%? |
| 18:05.23 | flak | puts on headphones and turns up the music really loud |
| 18:05.27 | flak | ya |
| 18:05.34 | NeoTron | not just riad bosses but all mobs |
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| 18:05.40 | flak | lol muru |
| 18:05.47 | flak | we'll kill him in 1 wave |
| 18:05.56 | NeoTron | that's pretty insane |
| 18:06.13 | flak | we're already killing him before the second sentinel in the 4th wave |
| 18:06.27 | NeoTron | same |
| 18:06.32 | NeoTron | except we don't riad anymore but yea |
| 18:06.37 | NeoTron | we killed him twice only |
| 18:06.39 | Zaphon | is that their way of dealing with the changes in talents that we are getting in 3.0 before WotLK ships? Just nerf the crap out of everything instead of re-tuning for the new talents |
| 18:06.41 | flak | damn |
| 18:06.42 | flak | :I( |
| 18:06.58 | flak | i'm fine with hitting everything with the nerf pat |
| 18:07.00 | flak | *bad |
| 18:07.02 | flak | *bat |
| 18:07.03 | NeoTron | Zaphon: or to get ppl to get soem leet gear they were unable to get before |
| 18:07.06 | chexsum_ | i think they want us to get gear faster |
| 18:07.19 | NeoTron | ah well |
| 18:07.29 | NeoTron | I'm happy not wiping in SWP raiding |
| 18:07.30 | flak | let people see more content |
| 18:07.31 | kenlyric | why bother returning for 3 weeks of play? |
| 18:07.31 | chexsum_ | 45m kara runs sound good |
| 18:07.37 | NeoTron | so won't ponder it too much |
| 18:07.38 | kenlyric | *tuning |
| 18:07.53 | Zaphon | yeah, as I was thinking if anything the new talents make most classes better, not worse, so buff the bosses, not nerf them. |
| 18:07.59 | Zaphon | but hey nerf is good. :-) |
| 18:08.13 | flak | just so long as they wait until after kj dies |
| 18:08.33 | flak | so we can just go blow up sunwell in 3 hours every week |
| 18:08.38 | Gnarfoz | <Zaphon> is that their way of dealing with the changes in talents that we are getting in 3.0 before WotLK ships? Just nerf the crap out of everything instead of re-tuning for the new talents <-- the irony of that wasn't obvious to you? |
| 18:09.08 | flak | and tbh, the nerf is going to be needed |
| 18:09.12 | Zaphon | outdated content is well outdated |
| 18:09.22 | flak | haste stacking shaman gonna get rollt in 3.0 |
| 18:09.30 | kenlyric | new talents make most classes different, not better |
| 18:09.49 | flak | i know i'm afraid of what's going to happen to my direct healing next patch (priest) |
| 18:09.55 | Zaphon | my mains are all tanks (feral druid, prot warrior, prot pally), so from my perspective it's better. :-) |
| 18:10.05 | kenlyric | it wouldn't be better in sunwell |
| 18:10.10 | flak | pretty much going to be grabbing flash heal glyph and spam that all day long |
| 18:10.11 | Gnarfoz | "nerfing" (which doesn't even apply to changes made on PTR & beta, because... it should be obvious, why) is one of two forms of "re-tuning", the other is "buffing" :p |
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| 18:11.34 | flak | is the potion change still in game? |
| 18:11.39 | flak | potion sickness until ooc? |
| 18:13.17 | Gnarfoz | that's gone for two months by now =} |
| 18:13.22 | flak | kk |
| 18:13.27 | Megalon | still on in beta |
| 18:13.31 | flak | o |
| 18:13.32 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: noo |
| 18:13.44 | Megalon | the visible debuff is gone yea ;> |
| 18:13.45 | flak | that would certainly justify lowering mob hp |
| 18:13.48 | flak | shorter fights |
| 18:14.04 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: huh oO |
| 18:14.22 | Gnarfoz | you mean for some reason they made it like it was but now it doesn't have a debuff? xD |
| 18:14.40 | flak | i figure i'll break even, since i never get a spriest on live |
| 18:14.47 | Gnarfoz | (while both Sated and Tinnitus do?) |
| 18:14.50 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: it just has no icon |
| 18:14.51 | flak | and i should pretty much always have replenishment |
| 18:14.59 | Stanzilla | you get an error message tho |
| 18:15.37 | Gnarfoz | "icon" = debuff |
| 18:15.50 | Gnarfoz | so: no debuff for this, while the other 2 are actual debuffs |
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| 18:16.10 | kagaro | you potion cooldown doesnt start till your out of combat |
| 18:16.23 | flak | that's kinda silly |
| 18:16.27 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 18:16.30 | flak | who cares if you're chugging pots while ooc |
| 18:16.32 | Gnarfoz | if my potion's aren't on cooldown |
| 18:16.35 | flak | no reason for a cd at all |
| 18:16.42 | Gnarfoz | ... etc? |
| 18:17.03 | flak | Gnarfoz: he didn't say they weren't on cooldown, but that the cd wouldn't *start* |
| 18:17.07 | kagaro | once you chug the pot, the cooldown wont start ticking till your ooc, that better |
| 18:17.07 | Gnarfoz | probably not able to put a no-duration cooldown on something because of lack of foresight regarding cooldown API |
| 18:17.16 | digmouse | wtf TBC rain instas nerfed in newest build? |
| 18:17.20 | Gnarfoz | when is something on cooldown...? AFTER the coldown starts :P |
| 18:17.27 | Gnarfoz | meh :\ |
| 18:17.37 | Gnarfoz | digmouse: what. |
| 18:17.45 | Gnarfoz | "TBC rain"? |
| 18:17.46 | digmouse | see mmo-champion |
| 18:17.53 | digmouse | i mean raid |
| 18:18.07 | flak | hehe |
| 18:18.14 | flak | we were just discussing that digmouse |
| 18:18.22 | Gnarfoz | well, welcome to the discussion, check the backlog of the last... just scroll up. :P |
| 18:18.25 | flak | <- thinks they had to do it because of pot sickness |
| 18:18.33 | digmouse | will that come to 3.0.2 lol |
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| 18:20.50 | flak | why wouldn't it? |
| 18:21.45 | digmouse | pray |
| 18:22.45 | Gnarfoz | +s |
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| 18:23.06 | NeoTron | so I like how, it seems, WotLK is moving more towards AoE vs Crowd Control |
| 18:23.14 | Lukian | Is there an addon to mass demote people in a guild / tidy up guild ranks? |
| 18:23.15 | Gnarfoz | (not declining verbs in emotes reminds me too much of s_a_n) |
| 18:23.17 | NeoTron | AoE just plays a lot nicer imho. more fun |
| 18:23.25 | Gnarfoz | Lukian: yeah: /gdisband :D |
| 18:24.02 | Lukian | Gnarfoz, uh no. inviting 150 people is more effort than clicking ~350 times. |
| 18:24.14 | Gnarfoz | you sure? :> |
| 18:24.17 | Lukian | yes |
| 18:24.32 | Gnarfoz | also, what happens if you delete a guild rank that people currently have? |
| 18:24.35 | flak | actually i think it's the opposite neotron |
| 18:25.01 | flak | tbc instances largely had pulls with bunches of mobs that you were *supposed* to cc |
| 18:25.18 | Lukian | Gnarfoz, hmm that's an interesting question |
| 18:25.25 | flak | not really until paladin tanks started seeing t5+ that aoeing everything was really common |
| 18:25.26 | Lukian | anyone able to answer that? |
| 18:25.37 | flak | but from the instances i've done on beta |
| 18:25.41 | flak | most pulls are under 4 mobs |
| 18:25.45 | NeoTron | flak: so far we've aoe'd exclusively pretty much |
| 18:25.51 | flak | really? |
| 18:25.56 | NeoTron | and some pulls are larger than 4 |
| 18:26.07 | NeoTron | both heroics, normal 5-mans while leveling and raids |
| 18:26.12 | flak | mmm |
| 18:26.18 | NeoTron | never used CC except occasional mind control |
| 18:26.21 | flak | maybe that's because i levelled a dk |
| 18:26.22 | NeoTron | and MC mainly because it's fun |
| 18:26.28 | flak | and there was no freakin tank gear |
| 18:26.35 | NeoTron | can actually MC just about any humanoir mob in heroics now |
| 18:26.37 | flak | so we had to cc or i'd get squashed |
| 18:26.40 | NeoTron | well |
| 18:26.47 | NeoTron | I've tanked as DK and I aoe ank |
| 18:26.51 | NeoTron | aoe tank |
| 18:26.56 | flak | while levelling at all? |
| 18:27.04 | stew_a | can anyone point me at (or tell me its not in lua) the hyperlink onclick handlers for the default interface please? |
| 18:27.04 | NeoTron | in naxx and heroics with premade pvp gear and on Northrend while leveling |
| 18:27.21 | flak | :/ |
| 18:27.24 | NeoTron | ofc on northrend the healers were, primaily, SWP geared |
| 18:27.28 | NeoTron | at low/mid 70s |
| 18:27.51 | flak | ya, it was fine when i had an swp geared player healing me |
| 18:27.57 | flak | druid spamming regrowths |
| 18:27.57 | flak | hehe |
| 18:28.45 | Lukian | "To remove a guild rank, there must be no guild members currently at that rank" |
| 18:28.49 | Lukian | that doesn't work |
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| 18:29.15 | flak | yeah, i've had some interesting problems with that |
| 18:29.38 | flak | clearly see nobody with that rank, but still couldn't delete it |
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| 18:32.50 | MoonWitch | Kaelten: ping |
| 18:33.11 | MoonWitch | actually, any of the wowace mods can do this i think |
| 18:33.16 | MoonWitch | lol |
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| 18:33.42 | Groktard | frick i hate kids |
| 18:33.45 | Groktard | yap yap yap |
| 18:35.31 | Shefki | stew_a: SetItemRef |
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| 18:38.49 | Repo | 10surgeon-general: 03Brimmstone * r14 / (2 files in 1 directory): Updated Externals |
| 18:38.50 | Repo | Updated TOC |
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| 18:46.35 | EthanCentaurai | forum admin: ping! :D |
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| 18:54.27 | ScratchMonkey_ | what's needed to upgrade my svn working copies now that curseforge takes over? I don't see a forum thread about that |
| 18:54.45 | ScratchMonkey_ | is there a new svn url? |
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| 18:56.53 | NeoTron | each project has their own |
| 18:57.30 | Vulcanus | Funkeh` is that you dicking with the forum names and descriptions on the forums? XD |
| 18:57.46 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 18:58.12 | Repo | 10cnf: 03Ackis * r3 CNF.toc: ToC update |
| 18:58.12 | Vulcanus | find a reasonable name for the addons forum then, --- does not qualify |
| 18:58.13 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 18:58.22 | Dashkal | ScratchMonkey_: click "repository" from your project while logged in. The new url will show. Simplest route is to just check it back out. |
| 18:58.36 | ScratchMonkey_ | thanks, will do |
| 18:59.06 | Funkeh` | Vulcanus, it's a separator |
| 18:59.14 | Vulcanus | well |
| 18:59.43 | Vulcanus | IMO it would be better to create a forum called AddOns under WoW, then have all the current forums in the "separator" forums as sub-forums of aforementioned AddOns forum |
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| 19:00.00 | Funkeh` | god no |
| 19:01.15 | Vulcanus | alternatively we could all netsplit |
| 19:01.16 | Repo | 10bwkh: 03Ackis * acca42a8636d BigWigs_KalecgosHealth.toc: ToC Update |
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| 19:01.16 | Gnarfoz | not a netsplit ^^ |
| 19:02.19 | stew_a | how do you know its not? |
| 19:02.19 | Gnarfoz | -tomaw/Wallops- Hi all. We have some server desync between servers. I'm going to relink them now which will be noisy but quick and should resolve the issue. Thanks :) |
| 19:02.19 | Gnarfoz | like that ^ |
| 19:02.20 | stew_a | ah |
| 19:02.20 | sacarasc | it's still a netsplit, just a planned one |
| 19:02.20 | Repo | 10bwkh: 03Ackis 07v1.41 * v1.41 BigWigs_KalecgosHealth.toc: (2 revisions total) |
| 19:02.20 | Repo | ToC Update |
| 19:02.20 | Repo | Initial commit of git repo since I nuked the svn repo |
| 19:02.54 | Aeyan | Haha |
| 19:02.54 | sacarasc | fail bot |
| 19:03.04 | EthanCentaurai | Funkeh`, are you able to change user's names on the forums? |
| 19:03.09 | ScratchMonkey_ | drat, looks like some projects are still in zip file land, i see cartographer has gone to git |
| 19:03.10 | Vulcanus | I am |
| 19:03.40 | Vulcanus | EthanCentaurai: give me your old and new usernames |
| 19:04.37 | EthanCentaurai | Vulcanus: I'm currently logged as DarkImakuni on the forums but ethancentaurai everywhere else. Can you change me to EthanCentaurai please? :) |
| 19:04.56 | EthanCentaurai | split personality fails :P |
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| 19:06.17 | Repo | 10querier: 03Ackis * r59 Querier.toc: ToC Update |
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| 19:06.18 | Vulcanus | Funkeh`: Did you see my suggestion before the split? |
| 19:06.19 | EthanCentaurai | Vulcanus: awesome thanks! |
| 19:06.19 | Vulcanus | np |
| 19:06.19 | EthanCentaurai | gives Vulcanus a cookie. |
| 19:06.19 | Vulcanus | noms |
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| 19:06.29 | ScratchMonkey_ | what is "the client" I'm seeing mention on project download pages? I don't see a link about that on the curseforge home page |
| 19:06.29 | Funkeh` | Vulcanus, and I said god no |
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| 19:06.35 | Vulcanus | why not? |
| 19:06.53 | Funkeh` | something as important as the addon forums themselves are not going to be sub forums |
| 19:07.03 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis 06wotlk-branch * r892 AckisRecipeList.toc: Update ToC, calling this beta 1 |
| 19:07.04 | Vulcanus | You are aware we can make a practically unmetered amount of subforums appear on forumhome rite? |
| 19:07.23 | EthanCentaurai | ScratchMonkey_: "the client" probably refers to the Curse Client - http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/ :) |
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| 19:07.40 | ScratchMonkey_ | ah, i see it on curse.com, but not curseforge.com, yep |
| 19:08.15 | ScratchMonkey_ | the big win I saw in svn before was that I could make local customizations to an addon and they'd be preserved by an update (possibly with a conflict resolution required) |
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| 19:09.07 | ScratchMonkey_ | I expect git will do that, but I hate stuff available only by zip because it can't do that |
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| 19:10.18 | Pneumatus | clone the repo and maintain your own version? |
| 19:10.33 | Dashkal | ScratchMonkey_: well, if you're willing to put a little work in, zip-only _can_ do that with a couple shell scripts |
| 19:10.58 | Dashkal | It basically comes down to maintaining your own private repo |
| 19:11.13 | ScratchMonkey_ | true, one could go with the vendor drop model |
| 19:11.13 | kenlyric | you can't do zip? |
| 19:11.35 | Repo | 10welfareepics: 03Ackis * r79 WelfareEpics.toc: ToC Update |
| 19:11.44 | kenlyric | oh, pronoun confusion |
| 19:11.46 | Dashkal | ScratchMonkey_: pretty much yeah |
| 19:11.48 | kenlyric | nvm |
| 19:12.06 | Kaelten | ok the last ping to me completely scrolled away |
| 19:12.14 | Repo | 10o-uf_sb: 03smb * r3 oUF_sb.lua: - fix boss coloring |
| 19:12.45 | ScratchMonkey_ | I wonder if the curse client can be used to maintain the WC for the vendor drop then |
| 19:12.52 | EthanCentaurai | MoonWitch pinged you Kael :) |
| 19:12.57 | ScratchMonkey_ | will have to play with that |
| 19:14.23 | Dashkal | ScratchMonkey_: I don't believe that that's yet a feature but you could post a ticket against the client's project on curseforge asking for it. |
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| 19:14.54 | Dashkal | the client works with zips, not RCS systems (it won't svn update, just replace the old copy with the new zip) |
| 19:14.55 | ScratchMonkey_ | I figure it's a case of faking up a directory structure for the client that makes it think it's an addon tree |
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| 19:15.03 | Dashkal | ahh |
| 19:15.06 | Dashkal | I see where you're going |
| 19:15.14 | ScratchMonkey_ | as long as it doesn't delete the .svn metadata it should be ok |
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| 19:16.12 | Pneumatus | assuming the client lets you extract addons to an arbritary folder, rather than the one set in the registry |
| 19:16.40 | EthanCentaurai | lol just noticed the humorous message at the bottom of the forum page :) |
| 19:16.49 | ScratchMonkey_ | many people clone their wow installations, so the registry entry set by blizzard may not be the active one |
| 19:17.07 | Repo | 10heal-organizer: 03Ackis * r55 / (3 files in 1 directory): Externals update, pkgmeta update and toc update |
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| 19:17.29 | Pneumatus | well, i mean it depends where the curse client feels like letting you have addons installed |
| 19:17.39 | ScratchMonkey_ | i'll have to see if the client can use local cache directories, i have several people on my lan playing wow, with a server we share where i store addons |
| 19:17.44 | Pneumatus | if you can specify a random folder, or what |
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| 19:19.17 | Repo | 10heal-organizer: 03Ackis 04v2.2 * r56 : Tagging 2.2 release |
| 19:19.38 | sacarasc | lots of Ackis spam \o/ |
| 19:19.58 | AckisWork | sorry |
| 19:20.16 | Groktard | nibbles on AckisWork |
| 19:20.22 | AckisWork | :P |
| 19:20.28 | sacarasc | you should be sorry... making me feel lazy because I'm doing nothing while you're hard at work making addons for me |
| 19:21.02 | AckisWork | not making them just getting the repo's up and working again since i'm an idiot |
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| 19:22.19 | ScratchMonkey_ | Pneumatus: client has a setting to specify wow folder, so I'd guess I could create a dummy with only Interface/Addons in it |
| 19:22.52 | ScratchMonkey_ | It seems to lack the ability to specify multiple such folders, which would be nice for having multiple clients installed (eg. a separate PTR setup) |
| 19:23.09 | AckisWork | ScratchMonkey_: it uses that for the wtf folder too (ie: curse client) |
| 19:23.14 | AckisWork | it supports PTR iirc |
| 19:24.38 | Gnarfoz | hate for not being able to use PTR when you're in beta, btw :< |
| 19:26.24 | ScratchMonkey_ | doesn't the PTR require a completely separate game directory? I see only one game directory setting in the client, so you'd need to keep switching it between the two |
| 19:27.23 | ScratchMonkey_ | otoh, I guess you could use two windows profiles to store the pointer, requiring one to log out and back in to another Windows user |
| 19:27.34 | ScratchMonkey_ | or do a runas |
| 19:29.49 | kenlyric | you should just be able to make a second copy of the curse client |
| 19:29.52 | kenlyric | that'd be easier |
| 19:31.11 | NeoTron | is there a "tagging FAQ" for automatic file creation? |
| 19:31.44 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: ... can't you just log into the PTR using your beta account? |
| 19:32.13 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: no, because the PTR client wants to join "Coldarra" :> |
| 19:32.24 | Gnarfoz | (yes, I'm using the correct client :\) |
| 19:32.55 | NeoTron | what do you mean? |
| 19:33.05 | NeoTron | in my beta client (not ptr) I can select the PTR servers |
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| 19:34.02 | Gnarfoz | oh, misread you |
| 19:34.15 | Gnarfoz | didn't try it that way around |
| 19:34.54 | Gnarfoz | will that make me a "upgraded to LK already" user, compared to other, non-beta PTR users? |
| 19:35.07 | NeoTron | nope |
| 19:35.11 | NeoTron | PTR is PTR |
| 19:35.13 | Gnarfoz | because I want to try out the post-3.0.2, pre-LK release situation |
| 19:35.15 | Gnarfoz | kk |
| 19:35.21 | ScratchMonkey_ | kenlyric: where does the client store its settings? that gates what you mean by a "second copy" |
| 19:35.38 | falconindy | Is there a way to mimic the with/without externals behavior in the new curse client that WUA had? I'm not finding anything in the doc |
| 19:35.39 | kenlyric | I have no idea |
| 19:35.40 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: my beta client doesn't show PTRs :< |
| 19:35.43 | kenlyric | it just seems very installer-happy |
| 19:35.49 | kenlyric | so I assume it's difficult |
| 19:35.50 | Gnarfoz | falconindy: not yet |
| 19:36.03 | falconindy | Gnarfoz: ack. |
| 19:36.05 | kenlyric | jwu was just "make two copies, run" |
| 19:36.22 | sacarasc | i used curse client and it killed all my addons |
| 19:36.27 | Gnarfoz | falconindy: kolie said the provisions for it are already there, however, some of the infrastructure is not |
| 19:36.36 | Kolie | For what. |
| 19:36.52 | Gnarfoz | automatic disembedding |
| 19:37.07 | Gnarfoz | or externals/no externals thingy |
| 19:37.07 | Kolie | Uhm, well more or less something that does what you intend. |
| 19:37.23 | falconindy | Yeah, I don't feel comfortable using the curse client right now if it can't do that yet. |
| 19:38.06 | Gnarfoz | then don't :> |
| 19:38.58 | falconindy | I'm not going to. But its now my fault that I have to go back and get older copies of addons from WUA without the embedded libs |
| 19:39.30 | kenlyric | caring about embedding is so 2007 |
| 19:40.06 | falconindy | I don't enjoy my addons using 70mb instead of half that |
| 19:40.36 | falconindy | Graphics lag on KJ is lame |
| 19:40.36 | kenlyric | lol |
| 19:41.04 | kenlyric | that's not... |
| 19:41.09 | kenlyric | what the hell are you talking about |
| 19:41.16 | Gnarfoz | how much memory your addons take up is not to blame for your crap fps on KJ |
| 19:41.17 | kenlyric | embedded libs do not double the memory usage. |
| 19:41.21 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:41.29 | Gnarfoz | (your graphic settings, however, might be. as might your actual hardware.) |
| 19:41.36 | kenlyric | they don't do ANYTHING after the first GC |
| 19:42.10 | falconindy | err, ok. But I get similar lag on Iliidan, and running without mods made a difference. I'm willing to admit its not the mods themselves, but its mod related |
| 19:42.11 | kenlyric | the only thing disembedding aids is zoning time. |
| 19:42.12 | Gnarfoz | the only thing, and yes, it IS annoying, is that they blow up my login time even more ;> |
| 19:42.33 | falconindy | Hate me for being OCD, I guess |
| 19:42.33 | kenlyric | and update frequency |
| 19:42.41 | Gnarfoz | falconindy: check your graphic settings. check the "texture resolution" slider. is it at the maximum setting? |
| 19:42.49 | falconindy | My rig is solid. It's not a hardware issue |
| 19:42.55 | Gnarfoz | yadda yadda |
| 19:42.56 | Gnarfoz | check that |
| 19:43.05 | falconindy | I'm not logged in, but yeah it is |
| 19:43.08 | Gnarfoz | I'm running a c2d e6750 + 8800gtx |
| 19:43.17 | Gnarfoz | and I get bad fps on Illidan's Flame Burst? |
| 19:43.26 | Gnarfoz | somehow, that doesn't seem right |
| 19:43.41 | Gnarfoz | but... WoW's implementation of AF sucks balls and kills my FPS |
| 19:43.52 | Gnarfoz | so I moved it down one notch from the top, and boom double FPS :X |
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| 19:44.21 | godzirra | Heya folks. |
| 19:44.24 | NeoTron | flame burst always does that since the 2.4 patch |
| 19:44.27 | falconindy | I'll give it a shot, thanks. |
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| 19:44.28 | Gnarfoz | yes, it's not obvious, yes, maybe you got a FPS increase from disabling addons (maybe you "saw what you wanted to see") |
| 19:44.41 | Tornhoof | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:44.42 | godzirra | Before I start writing my own, does anyone know of a mod that just warns you as a paally that you weren't smart enough to turn crusader aura off before combat started/ |
| 19:44.44 | falconindy | *shrug* It could be bloated savedvar files |
| 19:44.54 | Gnarfoz | in any case though, there's probably easier ways to gain FPS than disembedding ;> |
| 19:45.05 | NeoTron | before 2.4 flame burst was fine, post 2.4 it drops fps to nothing for a little bit |
| 19:45.26 | NeoTron | godzirra: get BuffEnough |
| 19:45.31 | falconindy | Yeah, I noticed the change with 2.4 as well. Initially I wanted to blame the new combat log |
| 19:45.34 | NeoTron | a lot more than just crusader aura, but it does at least include it |
| 19:45.36 | Aeyan | I had that issue with the Ahune fight |
| 19:45.47 | NeoTron | I had the same issue on twins |
| 19:45.49 | Aeyan | When he resurfaced, it utterly decimated my FPS |
| 19:45.53 | NeoTron | every time shadow nova went off, I stuttered |
| 19:46.12 | NeoTron | it was not a graphical issue I don't think since the main group is outside my field of view most of the tim |
| 19:46.14 | falconindy | Yeah, you'll likely have the same problem with KJ's flame dart then |
| 19:46.39 | Aeyan | Never seemed to matter for me with the Ahune fight |
| 19:46.46 | Aeyan | I could stare at the ground and I'd still lag |
| 19:46.53 | Aeyan | At resurface |
| 19:47.10 | godzirra | NeoTron: is it an ace addon? |
| 19:47.21 | NeoTron | godzirra: yeah |
| 19:47.35 | godzirra | thanks |
| 19:47.36 | NeoTron | http://www.wowace.com/projects/buff-enough/ |
| 19:47.40 | godzirra | Saves me from writing my own :) |
| 19:47.43 | NeoTron | it's on wowinterface too btw |
| 19:47.57 | godzirra | k |
| 19:49.16 | godzirra | I wish I could find more info about these things |
| 19:52.07 | elite3vil | godzirra: ZOMGBuffs also deals with auras, but other things as well (blessings, other classes buffs, etc.) |
| 19:52.18 | Aeyan | I've found out about a lot stuff just hanging around in the wowace 'Post your UI' thread, heh |
| 19:52.19 | godzirra | Cool.. i'll check that one out too. |
| 19:52.30 | elite3vil | I use it in place of PallyPower. |
| 19:52.30 | godzirra | I always end up with someone telling me to change my aura =p |
| 19:52.37 | godzirra | I heard its compatible with pallypower too |
| 19:52.38 | godzirra | ? |
| 19:53.05 | elite3vil | compatible, yeah. Better to get everyone to switch from PP though, 'cause ZOMG is so much better. =P |
| 19:53.29 | elite3vil | took me a few weeks to get people to switch |
| 19:53.46 | elite3vil | now everyone's like "why weren't we using this before" |
| 19:53.47 | elite3vil | =P |
| 19:53.51 | godzirra | I will recommend it if I like it, but getting people to switch away from things is hard =p |
| 19:53.58 | elite3vil | anyways, back to sleep before the raid. |
| 19:54.02 | godzirra | Take care |
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| 19:54.44 | falconindy | everyone hates EE for his love of zomgbuffs. its a trick! |
| 19:54.45 | Repo | 10clean-shot: 03TDW * r34 CleanShot.toc: CleanShot: - Toc updated (new X-Website) |
| 19:55.02 | elite3vil | lol, howdy Falcx. |
| 19:55.19 | falconindy | sup =P |
| 19:55.28 | elite3vil | and it's RBS that they hate me for, not ZOMG. =P |
| 19:55.41 | falconindy | They must not realize it, then. |
| 19:55.58 | elite3vil | *shrug* |
| 19:56.15 | elite3vil | call me if I'm late for the raid again, k? lol. |
| 19:56.20 | elite3vil | I'm gonna go take a nap |
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| 19:56.29 | falconindy | sure thing |
| 19:56.30 | elite3vil | or you could always just have Menyu tank the reflections |
| 19:56.31 | godzirra | hrm |
| 19:56.35 | godzirra | I'm not entirely clear on how zomg works =p |
| 19:56.37 | falconindy | no! no! i'll call! |
| 19:56.57 | elite3vil | godzirra: rtm? |
| 19:57.05 | godzirra | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.16 | elite3vil | or do what I do.. it's called "click random buttons until you figure out what they do" |
| 19:57.17 | elite3vil | =P |
| 19:57.31 | godzirra | I'm doing that... its not working too great. :) |
| 19:57.58 | Fisker- | Been any news on wowace being listed in the curse client lately? |
| 19:59.14 | Aeyan | Sometime today perhaps was the last info I heard |
| 19:59.40 | Aeyan | Nothing new about it today yet |
| 20:00.16 | NeoTron | does anyone have high end dps parses from naxx-10/25 |
| 20:00.28 | NeoTron | I'm mainly meaning pve geared, not with stupid premade pvp gear |
| 20:00.54 | NeoTron | I'm mainly curious how DK's and ret pallies hold up when geared (and how they compare) |
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| 20:02.37 | Repo | 10mage-announce: 03Jomar 041.0 * r56 : Tagging as 1.0. |
| 20:02.40 | Repo | 10kg-panels: 03kagaro 04v1.03 * r261 : Tagging as v1.03. |
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| 20:02.44 | Repo | Touching tags for syndication |
| 20:02.48 | Repo | 10kg-panels-config: 03kagaro 04v1.03 * r145 : Tagging as v1.03. for syndication |
| 20:02.57 | kagaro | wow thats late |
| 20:04.32 | Aeyan | Repo's been under some stress |
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| 20:06.17 | ckknight | kagaro: yea, the repo manager wasn't running. I got it so that it'll pick up where it left off, though, so it's a good test ;-) |
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| 20:06.29 | kagaro | gotcha |
| 20:06.37 | kagaro | yeah i noticed all my stuff syndicated |
| 20:07.37 | Repo | 10rating-buster: 03Whitetooth * r163 / (2 files in 1 directory): RatingBuster: .pkgmeta and externals update |
| 20:09.15 | Groktard | nibbles on Repo |
| 20:09.40 | Repo | 10rating-buster: 03Whitetooth * r164 : RatingBuster: externals update |
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| 20:10.48 | NeoTron | so how are you supposed to tag stuff for release? v1.0, 1.0...? |
| 20:11.02 | kagaro | arg why is the defualt forum display order by thread name |
| 20:13.05 | NeoTron | kagaro: better question yet, how can you change the default? |
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| 20:13.25 | kagaro | i checked in the user cp no option to change sorting that i saw |
| 20:13.40 | ckknight | NeoTron: v1.0 |
| 20:13.43 | NeoTron | ckknight: thanks |
| 20:13.43 | Aeyan | It's not default for all the subforums, oddly enough |
| 20:13.44 | godzirra | Hrm. how do I get zomgbuffs to whine at me for having sanctuary aura on in combat? |
| 20:13.47 | ckknight | NeoTron: that's how I do it and what I recommend |
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| 20:15.57 | kagaro | ckknight: where do you change the your default sort for the forums? |
| 20:16.07 | ckknight | no idea, I don't do forums |
| 20:16.37 | kagaro | who does? |
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| 20:17.20 | NivFreak | any holy paladins healing naxx on beta yet? |
| 20:17.30 | dafire | kagaro, you can change your preferences in the usercp |
| 20:17.46 | kagaro | i did not see any entry in teh usercp for sort control |
| 20:18.25 | dafire | hmm.. i don't know if you can change sort of threads.. just posts in thread .. |
| 20:18.27 | kagaro | just for within a thread, but not the board index |
| 20:18.38 | Funkeh` | kagaro, you can do it in your CP |
| 20:18.46 | dafire | what's wrong with the board index ? .9 |
| 20:18.48 | Funkeh` | not sure why name is default |
| 20:18.51 | Funkeh` | ill look into it |
| 20:18.51 | kagaro | Funkeh`: where? i dont see that option |
| 20:18.54 | Fisker- | cries |
| 20:19.21 | dafire | i think it might be f*cked up by impex.. i had this when i changed a forum from ibb to vb :9 |
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| 20:19.49 | Tuller | whee, I was able to commit changes to keybound |
| 20:20.58 | NeoTron | I second kagaro's comment. I didn't see an option for ti |
| 20:21.39 | dracula | hm, got some troubles with colors in chat again |
| 20:22.00 | dracula | asked yesterday in this channel about it... got it working with DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage |
| 20:22.30 | dracula | but when I use it in SendChatMessage(msg, "RAID") it disconnects me |
| 20:22.39 | dracula | unless I remove the color codes |
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| 20:25.02 | dafire | you can't send colors to other players |
| 20:25.11 | dafire | it will always disconnect you |
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| 20:25.58 | dracula | oh wait... addons like Deadly Boss Mods send the colorized string via an addon msg and then display it locally... |
| 20:27.31 | Repo | 10statlogiclib: 03Whitetooth * r175 .pkgmeta: StatLogicLib: .pkgmeta update |
| 20:27.52 | Groktard | do they dracula? |
| 20:28.04 | Repo | 10xperl: 03Zeksie * r139 / (24 files in 2 directories): XPerl: 2.4.3e |
| 20:28.12 | dracula | well... they display boss warnings with colors |
| 20:28.15 | Groktard | are you talking about the blue raid warnings in dbm? |
| 20:28.45 | Groktard | if you "/rw *** Groktar is Bad ***" it will come out as a blue warning to everyone with dbm |
| 20:29.03 | dracula | yes but it also uses class colors for names |
| 20:29.37 | dracula | like "Inner Demon on: Dracula, Groktard, Repo" etc... |
| 20:29.38 | *** join/#wowace Curses (n=justinki@c-76-116-19-171.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 20:29.45 | dracula | with names in class color |
| 20:30.00 | Groktard | should be able to figure that out itself |
| 20:30.13 | Groktard | without it being in the actual message |
| 20:30.27 | dracula | yeah but the class colors is only one example ;) |
| 20:30.35 | dracula | it also colorizes certain abilities |
| 20:32.14 | sb | Pneumatus: "We talked about it some, and we're cool with moving Fort up and Shield down. " |
| 20:32.35 | Pneumatus | they said that last time, and cocked it up :P |
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| 20:34.58 | Pkekyo| | Brownies were invented when a cake got drunk and fucked a cookie. |
| 20:35.16 | Lukian | licks Pkekyo| |
| 20:35.43 | Pkekyo| | doesn't know how to respond. Pkekyo| runs for the hills. |
| 20:36.45 | Funkeh` | kagaro, nvm |
| 20:36.48 | Funkeh` | kagaro, fixing it now |
| 20:36.59 | kagaro | Funkeh`: thanks |
| 20:38.27 | Groktard | catches Pkekyo| and huggles |
| 20:38.50 | Groktard | repalces kagaro's computers with emachines |
| 20:38.56 | Fisker- | has sex with Pkekyo| |
| 20:39.16 | Groktard | replaces Fisker-'s computers instead |
| 20:39.41 | Fisker- | :( |
| 20:39.55 | kadrahil | touches Fisker- with a twenty-foot rusty halberd |
| 20:40.01 | kagaro | ~lart Groktard |
| 20:40.01 | purl | squishes Groktard like a bug |
| 20:40.19 | Polarina | http://www.simnet.is/gabrielp/screenshots/world-of-warcraft/wrath-of-the-lich-king/beta/icecrown-citadel.jpg |
| 20:40.19 | Polarina | :) |
| 20:41.11 | kadrahil | :D |
| 20:41.21 | kadrahil | icecrown is a cool place |
| 20:41.22 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10532600037&sid=2000&pageNo=12#221 hahaha fucking awesome |
| 20:41.36 | Groktard | wonders if he should pay attention |
| 20:41.41 | Funkeh` | kagaro, I hate you by the way |
| 20:41.44 | Funkeh` | this could take a while |
| 20:41.52 | kagaro | Funkeh`: I know you do |
| 20:42.01 | Polarina | Fisker-: :P |
| 20:42.07 | Groktard | professor going on about opengl functions |
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| 20:43.58 | Groktard | seems kinda ghetto |
| 20:44.22 | Groktard | glBegin() <crap> glEnd() |
| 20:44.53 | Polarina | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?forumId=7573589&sid=2000&topicId=10532597167&pageNo=1& - Can someone tell them to do /console ffxSpecial 0 ? |
| 20:45.01 | Stanzilla | licks Funkeh` |
| 20:45.05 | Pkekyo| | feels violated |
| 20:45.07 | Pkekyo| | :/ |
| 20:45.13 | Polarina | Groktard: Your professor is not taking the professional way. |
| 20:45.27 | Polarina | Groktard: He should teach you about vertex buffer objects. |
| 20:45.36 | Groktard | hmm |
| 20:46.48 | Polarina | Groktard: With glBegin() <crap> glEnd(), you are resending the model to the card each time you render a frame - and you send it multiple times if you have multiple instances of the same object. Doesn't it seem wasteful? |
| 20:47.07 | Groktard | no idea, first time i've seen any of this |
| 20:47.43 | Polarina | Groktard: Tell your professor if he knows anything about "vertex buffer object". If he doesn't, you'd better get yourself a better professor. |
| 20:48.19 | Polarina | s/Tell/Ask/ |
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| 20:51.36 | Funkeh` | kagaro, do me a favour |
| 20:51.44 | Funkeh` | go over all the forums and make sure they are fixed now |
| 20:51.44 | Aeyan | Tekkub: Thanks for the headsup on stylish |
| 20:51.50 | kagaro | k |
| 20:52.00 | Tekkub | yea I"m harassing Kael to apply to to the forums |
| 20:52.06 | Tekkub | he's ignoring me |
| 20:52.07 | Aeyan | and yes, rabble rabble rabble |
| 20:52.08 | Tekkub | he hates me |
| 20:52.22 | Aeyan | I'm sure it's just tough love |
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| 20:53.49 | Repo | 10alttab: 03Ackis * a01d979e4917 AltTabber.toc: Minor ToC Update |
| 20:53.59 | kagaro | Funkeh`: they all look good as well as the sub forums |
| 20:54.10 | Funkeh` | brilliant |
| 20:54.35 | Tekkub | is Repo un-broke now? |
| 20:54.46 | Tekkub | or should I push more shit? |
| 20:55.12 | Aeyan | I was about to say something about putting the 'general' addon subforums at the top of the World of Warcraft header, but then I thought... it's probably best if people see AddOn HELP! first... |
| 20:55.37 | Tekkub | yea the HELP! forum is there for a reason... so I can ignore them all in one fel swoop |
| 20:55.50 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 20:55.54 | Tekkub | but kael needs to install the forum filter plugin for that to work on the new forums |
| 20:56.13 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r2 / (87 files in 18 directories): ZOMGBuffs: Committing latest. |
| 20:56.16 | Tekkub | I don't have the access I did in SMF, or I'd do it myself |
| 20:56.50 | Aeyan | vBulletin letting you ignore forums for new posts is a nice feature |
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| 20:59.30 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r3 .pkgmeta: ZOMGBuffs: Added pkgmeta. |
| 20:59.39 | NeoTron | what is this .pkgmeta thing? |
| 20:59.53 | Zeksie | like filelist.wau |
| 20:59.58 | Zeksie | with extra stuff too |
| 21:00.12 | NeoTron | like ability to split it into multiple directories? |
| 21:00.15 | Zeksie | instructions for zipping up basically |
| 21:00.20 | Aeyan | http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/pkgmeta-file/ |
| 21:01.06 | NeoTron | thanks |
| 21:02.20 | NeoTron | so how does .pkgmeta work vs "svn pe svn:externals ."? |
| 21:02.37 | NeoTron | keeps reading. |
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| 21:02.51 | Arrowmaster | it works where as svn:externals doesnt |
| 21:03.18 | NeoTron | ok what I meant was, really, that I edited my svn externals and it seems to have updated the .pkgmeta file? |
| 21:03.25 | NeoTron | either that or the pkgmeta file was correct to begin with |
| 21:03.42 | ckknight | that was me running a script |
| 21:05.10 | NeoTron | our of curiosity how does svn know about .pkgmeta if you do a checkout? does it? |
| 21:05.33 | Dashkal | It doesn't. use svn externals for that (the packager otoh ignores svn externals) |
| 21:05.41 | NeoTron | ok so basically you need both |
| 21:05.50 | NeoTron | if you want that functionality |
| 21:05.55 | Dashkal | pretty much |
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| 21:06.22 | NeoTron | which of course I typically would not |
| 21:06.49 | NeoTron | ckknight: I assume that script is a one-time thing? |
| 21:06.57 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:07.20 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: haha did you delete the cartographer subforum? |
| 21:07.27 | ckknight | no |
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| 21:07.44 | Arrowmaster | somebody did i guess |
| 21:07.51 | Aeyan | Funkeh`, I imagine |
| 21:07.57 | Arrowmaster | oh i see it now |
| 21:07.58 | Arrowmaster | renamed |
| 21:08.00 | Funkeh` | ? |
| 21:08.12 | Funkeh` | oh right, yes |
| 21:08.17 | Arrowmaster | 'Map/Minimap AddOns Cartographer, Mapster, Routes, etc..' |
| 21:10.40 | Funkeh` | A single forum for cart didn't seem necesary anymore |
| 21:11.26 | *** mode/#wowace [+v purl] by Funkeh` |
| 21:11.32 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Repo] by Funkeh` |
| 21:12.43 | sb | oh, there are lots of wowaceSVN addons in my curse updater, guess it works now? :P |
| 21:13.28 | [SW]Dodge | what is the easiest way to get 33108rep for Cenarion Circle as 70 feral? ;) |
| 21:13.43 | Tekkub | just give ckk's addons their own forum :P |
| 21:14.12 | sb | mhhhhhh question... |
| 21:14.20 | Dashkal | [SW]Dodge: Lots of gold and lots of armaments |
| 21:14.30 | dracula | circle.. not expedition |
| 21:14.36 | Dashkal | oops, missed that |
| 21:14.39 | [SW]Dodge | ;P |
| 21:14.41 | [SW]Dodge | Dashkal |
| 21:14.47 | [SW]Dodge | +: expedi is allready exalted |
| 21:14.48 | [SW]Dodge | ^^ |
| 21:14.54 | Aeyan | Trying for a title? |
| 21:14.58 | dracula | I had almost given up on Cen. Circle with my mage, until I discovered that the 3x Badge handin gives 1000 rep |
| 21:15.21 | sb | ckknight: there is no "without externals" options right now, correct? so i have to remove my libs (because the standalone libs wont get updated) |
| 21:15.29 | [SW]Dodge | Aeyan: yea :P i'm farming achievments ^^ |
| 21:15.41 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 21:15.43 | dracula | that one convined me to go for exalted... and it went pretty fast with the badges |
| 21:15.56 | dracula | currently farming Timbermaw rep :p |
| 21:16.03 | Aeyan | Haven't worked towards anything on my live character yet |
| 21:16.03 | ckknight | sb: for right now, that needs to be added to the addon service. You should bitch at netcurse to bitch at Adamar |
| 21:16.05 | ckknight | :P |
| 21:16.05 | [SW]Dodge | dracula: which badge? |
| 21:16.17 | dracula | Tactical Badge + Logical Badge + Combat Badge |
| 21:16.20 | Aeyan | I did make sure to get the Friend or Fowl on the beta server though |
| 21:16.20 | sb | ckknight: so what to do now? :p |
| 21:16.25 | NeoTron | ckknight: you need better bitching forwarding! |
| 21:16.29 | [SW]Dodge | dracula: timbermaw i have done in 2.5 days from 1500/3000 neutral to 999/1000 |
| 21:16.40 | Stanzilla | [SW]Dodge: go farm twilight texts |
| 21:16.43 | dracula | yeah, currently at 19500 :) |
| 21:16.51 | dracula | brains off, arcane explosions on |
| 21:16.55 | fauxpas | i farmed twilight texts as well, was pretty easy |
| 21:17.08 | dracula | the texts were fine for the last 5k |
| 21:17.14 | ckknight | NeoTron: well, Adamar doesn't come on IRC, but netcurse does. The support's already in for the curse client, the addon service just hasn't been updated |
| 21:17.14 | NeoTron | I like the dungeon achievements - i.e do the dungeon in a special way |
| 21:17.15 | dracula | especially the prophet drops many |
| 21:17.18 | [SW]Dodge | Stanzilla: text drops bad ~,~ |
| 21:17.20 | fauxpas | it's not that bad of a grind |
| 21:17.23 | NeoTron | like not using one color dragon in occulus |
| 21:17.33 | NeoTron | but probably will not grind rep achievements etc :P |
| 21:17.38 | Stanzilla | [SW]Dodge: ^-^ |
| 21:17.39 | NeoTron | unless there's a benefit to me to do it |
| 21:17.40 | Aeyan | Anyone know some nifty sharedmedia borders? |
| 21:17.42 | dracula | if you see the Prophet, get her... she can drop up to 10 texts |
| 21:17.42 | fauxpas | like two afternoons of farming for me |
| 21:18.10 | fauxpas | and you can use all the runecloth for capital reps |
| 21:18.57 | dracula | argent dawn wasnt too hard either |
| 21:19.08 | fauxpas | havent reached exalted yet |
| 21:19.10 | dracula | fourth cauldron field worked great |
| 21:19.26 | Aeyan | That reminds me, I've yet to give my friend the good news |
| 21:19.34 | fauxpas | the one warrior i warrior i was farming stratholme with reached exalted 5.5k before me :( |
| 21:19.37 | fauxpas | woah |
| 21:19.44 | fauxpas | -wararior - |
| 21:19.52 | fauxpas | i'm tired -.- |
| 21:19.57 | Aeyan | He was pissed about the Cenarion Expedition faction in Outland that had heard nothing of your exalted exploits for the Circle in Azeroth =P |
| 21:20.12 | Aeyan | Few months ago he said he's totally waiting on the Argent Expedition in Northrned |
| 21:20.13 | Aeyan | rend |
| 21:20.31 | dracula | Argent Crusade |
| 21:20.46 | Aeyan | Yeah |
| 21:20.49 | Aeyan | That's the good news |
| 21:21.06 | fauxpas | dracula: how exactly did you farm argent dawn on the cauldrn fields? might be easier to spec enhancement for one or two days than finding people for strath |
| 21:22.05 | dracula | I must admit it was mostly bareable because I could pull 8 mobs and AoE them down in 3 explosions |
| 21:22.14 | fauxpas | oh :( |
| 21:22.36 | dracula | not sure if I would have gone for it on my main (feral druid) |
| 21:22.55 | fauxpas | all the achievement nerds i know already have done argent dawn :( |
| 21:23.08 | dracula | make sure you carry the item that reveals the Ectoplasmic Resonator |
| 21:23.08 | fauxpas | gotta convert more people for the cause |
| 21:23.23 | fauxpas | but they're all busy playing bejeweled probably |
| 21:23.32 | dracula | haha yeah |
| 21:23.47 | dracula | that addon is an amazing remake |
| 21:23.53 | fauxpas | yup |
| 21:24.07 | fauxpas | i introduced it to a couple of people in my guild |
| 21:24.17 | fauxpas | on the first day i was like "yay, 11k, that's a good score" |
| 21:24.24 | fauxpas | now everyone's at 60k+ |
| 21:24.54 | dracula | same here... and it's fun to see many guild chat announcements of skillups |
| 21:25.08 | fauxpas | especially between brutallus wipes |
| 21:25.22 | Pneumatus | brut wipe recovery takes like 2 mins |
| 21:25.40 | Repo | 10alttab: 03ckknight 06ckknights-clone * 0e26c0e8f325 AltTabber.lua: Fake commit |
| 21:25.48 | fauxpas | shortest bejeweled timed game takes 2 mins as well :P |
| 21:26.32 | fauxpas | one rep i'd like to have is arathi basin. the tabard is really sweet |
| 21:26.50 | fauxpas | but i'd go insane before reaching exalted |
| 21:26.53 | Aeyan | Truth |
| 21:26.57 | Aeyan | On both accounts |
| 21:27.24 | dracula | wsg and ab are madness |
| 21:27.29 | dracula | compared to AV |
| 21:27.49 | fauxpas | i got s2/s3/s4 honor stuff, even a couple of s2 gladiator items, some even for multiple specs |
| 21:28.00 | fauxpas | and still sitting at 11500/12000 or so |
| 21:28.02 | Polarina | Which do you think is better? http://www.simnet.is/gabrielp/screenshots/world-of-warcraft/wrath-of-the-lich-king/beta/nexus-far.jpg or http://www.simnet.is/gabrielp/screenshots/world-of-warcraft/wrath-of-the-lich-king/beta/nexus-near.jpg |
| 21:28.54 | Aeyan | Far |
| 21:29.07 | fauxpas | depends, the far one is more .. 'epic' because it has all those platforms and mountains in the background |
| 21:29.12 | Repo | 10quartz: 03Nevcairiel * r2 .pkgmeta: Add .pkgmeta |
| 21:29.17 | fauxpas | but the near one has shiny light! |
| 21:29.29 | Aeyan | Bleh, Far all the way =P |
| 21:29.51 | Polarina | I'm looking for something to impress others - making them saying something like "wow", if you know what I mean. |
| 21:30.10 | fauxpas | then go with the far one |
| 21:30.12 | dracula | far |
| 21:30.19 | fauxpas | to show the scale of the surroundings |
| 21:30.22 | dracula | better overview |
| 21:30.25 | Polarina | Thanks. :) |
| 21:30.32 | dracula | what is it btw? ;) |
| 21:30.42 | Polarina | Nexus. |
| 21:30.43 | dracula | oh nexus |
| 21:30.46 | Polarina | The Nexus. |
| 21:30.47 | Aeyan | The Nexus, a dungeon |
| 21:30.58 | dracula | gonna be a jump to get there |
| 21:31.52 | Aeyan | The artists did a great job in Wrath |
| 21:32.03 | Aeyan | Nexus, Crystalsong Forest, Storm Peaks, etc etc |
| 21:32.03 | fauxpas | i'm really happy that i didn't actually level on the beta realm |
| 21:32.06 | Aeyan | All beautiful |
| 21:32.11 | fauxpas | saves all the excitement for release :) |
| 21:32.14 | dracula | I was already impressed by the new loading screens |
| 21:32.23 | Fisker- | nerfs nevcairiel |
| 21:32.24 | dracula | so much sharper |
| 21:32.36 | Polarina | fauxpas: I agree, still level 70 and have screenshots from Storm Peaks. :) |
| 21:32.38 | Repo | 10alttab: 03ckknight 06ckknights-clone * 0103df03f446 AltTabber.lua: Fake commit |
| 21:32.51 | Fisker- | why so fake? |
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| 21:33.37 | Kolie | Any takers on a CC beta for mac? Two known issues, really long startup time, and two apps. http://static.curseforge.net/client/CursseClientSetup-2.0.0.12.dmg |
| 21:34.50 | Adirelle | actually, that's a real commit |
| 21:34.58 | Adirelle | what's commited is fake |
| 21:35.00 | ckknight | shh, Adirelle |
| 21:35.05 | Adirelle | :p |
| 21:35.19 | NeoTron | Kolie: Downloaded it, will check it out later |
| 21:37.36 | netcurse | ace addons are now on the CC |
| 21:37.42 | Kolie | http://static.curseforge.net/client/CurseClientSetup-2.0.0.12.dmg fixed linkie |
| 21:37.43 | Fisker- | yay |
| 21:37.47 | Fisker- | lieks netcurse |
| 21:37.57 | Fisker- | but hates those who made it happen like nevcairiel, ckknight, etc. |
| 21:38.02 | Fisker- | :P |
| 21:38.13 | ckknight | ? |
| 21:38.21 | Fisker- | <-bad joke :( |
| 21:38.22 | ckknight | netcurse helped make it happen |
| 21:38.27 | Fisker- | oh |
| 21:38.34 | Fisker- | Thought you did most of the work :P |
| 21:38.42 | Fisker- | Or subtantially more of the work :P |
| 21:40.24 | ckknight | but netcurse pays me |
| 21:40.37 | Fisker- | but i pay netcurse |
| 21:40.55 | Repo | 10alttab: 03ckknight 06ckknights-clone * f4f44c247de0 AltTabber.lua: Fake commit |
| 21:41.46 | Groktar | kills ckknights-clone |
| 21:41.48 | Fisker- | The client doesn't seem to find: http://www.wowace.com/projects/wowace-simple-minimap/ |
| 21:42.19 | Repo | 10alttab: 03ckknight 06ckknights-clone * 8a0e8b3a317c AltTabber.lua: Fake commit |
| 21:42.23 | NeoTron | out of curiosity why were some repositories called "wowace-addon-name" instead of "addon-name"? name collision? |
| 21:42.53 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: yeah |
| 21:42.54 | ckknight | yea, name collision |
| 21:43.04 | nevcairiel | i merged alot of those today |
| 21:43.08 | nevcairiel | but not all |
| 21:43.09 | nevcairiel | yet |
| 21:43.18 | NivFreak | so |
| 21:43.21 | NivFreak | I have this bad feeling |
| 21:43.30 | NivFreak | I have nothing to complain about on my prot warrior |
| 21:43.32 | NivFreak | nothing at all |
| 21:43.40 | NivFreak | I can almost feel the nerf bat hovering |
| 21:43.52 | NivFreak | the only thing I can complain about, is it's all too easy |
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| 21:45.16 | Aeyan | I feel mostly beaten and depressed enough to keep my eyes closed and curled up in the fetal position until release, when I can open them and see if it's bright yet |
| 21:45.44 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 21:45.55 | Fisker- | It only seems to be finding 1/3 of my "wowace" addons |
| 21:45.58 | Groktar | i'm looking forward to booting all the bad shaman |
| 21:46.11 | Fisker- | Any ideas? |
| 21:46.33 | NeoTron | I'm trying to decide to play a ret pally or death knight |
| 21:46.48 | NivFreak | Aeyan: what class? |
| 21:46.54 | Aeyan | Shadow Priest =P |
| 21:46.58 | NivFreak | lol |
| 21:46.59 | [SW]Dodge | Fisker-: same problem :( |
| 21:47.09 | NivFreak | I haven't actually spec'd shadow in wrath yet |
| 21:47.14 | NivFreak | the changes sound pretty hot though |
| 21:47.22 | Groktar | i like having an aoe |
| 21:47.37 | NivFreak | dude |
| 21:47.40 | NivFreak | I leveled SM cath last night |
| 21:47.49 | NivFreak | figured I'd try out my pleveling with my warrior instead of pally |
| 21:47.54 | Aeyan | Eh, mostly I was just fond of the status-quo, with a unique utility |
| 21:48.01 | NivFreak | I think it took me about 40 seconds to kill every mob |
| 21:48.03 | Repo | 10yatba: 03ckknight * r2 Yatba.lua: Fake commit |
| 21:48.06 | Aeyan | I know why they're changing things though and I think it'll be alright in the end |
| 21:48.07 | NivFreak | where it would take me 4 or so on my pally |
| 21:48.30 | Aeyan | Just decided not to follow every little buff and nerf till it comes close to crunch time |
| 21:48.37 | fauxpas | i'm afraid of wotlk .. grid+clique+ 2 different ranks for chainheal bound to my mouse might not be enough anymore :( |
| 21:49.08 | kadrahil | :( |
| 21:49.13 | Pneumatus | more than enough, infact 1 rank too many! |
| 21:49.19 | fauxpas | heh |
| 21:49.25 | fauxpas | might turn out that way, yeah |
| 21:49.27 | Aeyan | Yeah, they're nerfing the crap out of downranking |
| 21:49.36 | Fisker- | I'm not afraid of wotlk, Blizzard made me not need any healing spells anymore |
| 21:49.39 | kadrahil | i can't wait to reroll a DK as my main :P |
| 21:49.46 | Aeyan | DK will be my tank |
| 21:49.49 | Aeyan | I don't really have one |
| 21:49.56 | kadrahil | i'm not sure if i'll tank or dps |
| 21:50.04 | kadrahil | i know i want to be frost because i really enjoy that spec right now |
| 21:50.09 | kadrahil | leveling one on beta |
| 21:50.16 | Aeyan | I'll... probably be unholy. |
| 21:50.16 | fauxpas | but .. i don't know .. i thought about going enhancement .. it's really quite fun (although new mw blows) .. but playing a melee class takes way too much of an effort on trash :P |
| 21:50.19 | Aeyan | Just a guess at the moment though |
| 21:50.33 | kadrahil | there's this bug right now with ghouls |
| 21:50.37 | kadrahil | when you summon them, they just die |
| 21:50.41 | kadrahil | :( |
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| 21:51.07 | Shinja | hi |
| 21:51.14 | NivFreak | the hardest part of tanking post 3.0 |
| 21:51.25 | NivFreak | is trying to figure out how to keep 10 mobs off you |
| 21:51.30 | fauxpas | there is a bug with spirit wolves .. instead of healing for 150% of their damage the heal for 1/150th of their damage (0-2) |
| 21:51.37 | kadrahil | rofl |
| 21:51.41 | Aeyan | Haha |
| 21:51.49 | NivFreak | fauxpas: nice |
| 21:51.59 | kadrahil | they finally fixed beastial wrath! |
| 21:52.03 | Shinja | they a bug with glancing too |
| 21:52.10 | kadrahil | so my hunter enrages now too instead of just the pet |
| 21:52.21 | Shinja | anyway, i can't register on new wowace forum |
| 21:52.36 | fauxpas | i especially like people going all "woah they nerfed spirit wolves! they now heal for 0-2 hp! blizzard is so stupid" on the forums |
| 21:52.46 | Fisker- | hmm [SW]Dodge |
| 21:52.57 | Fisker- | if you mark all and go "Reinstall/update" it seems to find a lot more |
| 21:53.11 | Fisker- | aka install a lot more |
| 21:53.27 | fauxpas | i'm really afraid of letting the curse client touch my addons .. :P |
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| 21:54.22 | [SW]Dodge | fauxpas: yea, me too |
| 21:55.19 | [SW]Dodge | the client has something i dont like,but i'm not sure what it is :S |
| 21:55.20 | fauxpas | i think ill just go with what i have untill wotlk (or the patch incase it really brakes stuff) |
| 21:55.38 | fauxpas | it's perfect as it is anyways :D |
| 21:55.44 | Groktar | redoing them at patch makes a lot more sense than wotlk |
| 21:55.59 | dracula | exalted! |
| 21:56.06 | [SW]Dodge | maybe it is just that it is not WAU xD |
| 21:56.23 | Groktar | i miss the way wau used to use 50% cpu while doing nothing |
| 21:56.33 | fauxpas | i'll miss jwowupdater :( |
| 21:56.38 | dracula | I can never stop at 149 / 1000 |
| 21:56.44 | fauxpas | heh, yeah |
| 21:56.48 | fauxpas | it just doesnt look right |
| 21:56.58 | [SW]Dodge | dracula |
| 21:57.17 | [SW]Dodge | gna-.- dracula: yea 999/1000 is the only true exalted ^^ |
| 21:57.37 | dracula | I believe for Frostwolf there was actually another trinket upgrade at 999 |
| 21:57.55 | Repo | 10yatba: 03Adirelle * r3 / (10 files in 2 directories): Added .pkgmeta. |
| 21:57.56 | Repo | Fixed file properties. |
| 21:57.56 | Repo | Removed embeds.xml. |
| 21:58.07 | Repo | 10alttab: 03Ackis * 5336e17cf32e AltTabber.toc: Minor ToC Update |
| 21:58.37 | Repo | 10cast-yeller: 03Adirelle * r168 .pkgmeta: Fixed .pkgmeta. |
| 21:59.58 | Repo | 10alttab: 03ckknight 06ckknights-clone * b1bc93eba7ca AltTabber.lua: Fake commit |
| 22:00.05 | Fisker- | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/files/103-curse-client-installer-1-0-6-0/ <-can you still use that for the setup? |
| 22:00.35 | fauxpas | i think it will simply autoupdate after you start it for the first time or so |
| 22:00.45 | Fisker- | nevermind >:3 |
| 22:01.02 | Stanzilla | Fisker-: http://mediabeta.curse.com/CurseClient/CurseSetup-2.0.0.13.exe |
| 22:01.14 | Shinja | humm |
| 22:01.16 | Fisker- | yeah i saw it |
| 22:01.23 | Shinja | need a curse accoutn to use it |
| 22:01.32 | Stanzilla | I just tested it |
| 22:03.23 | netcurse | we still need to merge lots of projects |
| 22:03.30 | netcurse | i would wait tomorrow ;) |
| 22:03.41 | Fisker- | ah |
| 22:03.44 | Fisker- | thought all were merged |
| 22:03.47 | netcurse | nop |
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| 22:06.10 | NeoTron | are there any other buffs that are equivalent to BoW and BoK? |
| 22:06.48 | Megalon | manaspring comes into my mind |
| 22:07.20 | NivFreak | but stacks, right? |
| 22:07.22 | Megalon | but i think you mean for raids without palas? |
| 22:07.23 | Megalon | yes |
| 22:07.29 | NivFreak | so here's a question |
| 22:07.32 | NivFreak | is mana spring raid wide now? |
| 22:07.37 | Xinhuan | viper aspect |
| 22:07.37 | Gaurong | yeah |
| 22:07.38 | NivFreak | is mana tide? |
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| 22:07.50 | Gaurong | don't know about tide |
| 22:07.54 | Megalon | tooltip states group members |
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| 22:08.21 | NeoTron | I meant if there was something that did not stack yes |
| 22:08.36 | NeoTron | basically is there a point to having two paladins in the same 10-man raid |
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| 22:08.43 | Megalon | i think bow is one of the buffs that stands out as unique |
| 22:08.57 | NeoTron | both BoK and BoW seeems to fit the bill |
| 22:09.03 | NeoTron | BoSanc too? |
| 22:09.05 | Megalon | flamtongue totem with +spellpower buff |
| 22:09.14 | Pneumatus | is there a way on the new wowaceforums to show more threads per page in each forum? |
| 22:09.21 | Megalon | yea, sanctuary is pretty unique :> |
| 22:09.35 | NeoTron | basically I'm thinking about whether to play paladin or DK |
| 22:09.37 | Pneumatus | 20 isnt enough :< |
| 22:09.38 | NeoTron | ret pally |
| 22:09.38 | Xinhuan | BoP :) |
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| 22:11.30 | thul | nerf warriors :-( |
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| 22:13.34 | kadrahil | anyone recruiting hunters :( |
| 22:13.38 | kadrahil | for sunwell |
| 22:14.11 | fewyn | you wish |
| 22:14.14 | kadrahil | yeah i do |
| 22:14.18 | kadrahil | because my guild sucks at kalecgos |
| 22:14.21 | fewyn | i wish someone was recruiting feral druids for sunwell |
| 22:14.42 | kadrahil | you can be a feral druid in my hunter group if you want |
| 22:14.48 | fewyn | the guild i alt raid BT with weekly is transfering off |
| 22:14.53 | kadrahil | ouch |
| 22:14.55 | kadrahil | why? |
| 22:15.03 | fewyn | because no one wants to transfer to norgannon |
| 22:15.09 | fewyn | our 3 sunwell guilds left |
| 22:15.12 | fewyn | in the last 2 months |
| 22:15.13 | kadrahil | lol |
| 22:15.16 | kadrahil | that sucks |
| 22:15.22 | fewyn | yea |
| 22:15.29 | fewyn | so now im in limbo |
| 22:15.45 | kadrahil | yeah we have two guilds horde side on my server in sunwell, one's working on muru and the other just killed kalecgos |
| 22:15.53 | fewyn | i can probably follow them and maybe get a spot in wotlk with them or go back to alliance |
| 22:15.54 | kadrahil | we're struggling on kalecgos still |
| 22:15.58 | Polarina | Where is this screen-shot from? http://www.hugi.is/blizzard/images.php?page=view&contentId=6176193 |
| 22:16.00 | kadrahil | yeah |
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| 22:16.01 | thul | lf nerf-warriors :-P |
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| 22:16.14 | fewyn | im not sure |
| 22:16.14 | kadrahil | Polarina: looks like the lake in terokkar? |
| 22:16.17 | fewyn | what i want to do |
| 22:16.20 | kadrahil | skettis maybe/ |
| 22:16.30 | fewyn | i dont want to be stuck behind in progression |
| 22:16.32 | fewyn | ever again |
| 22:16.42 | kadrahil | yeah i'm stuck right now |
| 22:16.47 | kadrahil | i have almost everything i want out of BT |
| 22:16.48 | fewyn | no youre not stuck |
| 22:16.55 | fewyn | im stuck |
| 22:16.58 | fewyn | bloodboil |
| 22:16.59 | kadrahil | but i can't get into sunwell |
| 22:17.04 | fewyn | =p |
| 22:17.08 | kadrahil | heh :( |
| 22:17.11 | fewyn | im stuck on bloodboil |
| 22:17.15 | kadrahil | ahh |
| 22:17.21 | dracula | heh same with our guild |
| 22:17.31 | NivFreak | heal harder |
| 22:17.35 | fewyn | dracula: my raids are 90% alts |
| 22:17.44 | dracula | we haven't had any real attempts |
| 22:17.45 | fewyn | and 10% mains |
| 22:17.57 | Aeyan | Polarina: Yeah, I think kadrahil is right. That's the lake in Terokkar between the Alliance and Horde towns, accessible by flyer |
| 22:17.57 | fewyn | we should be able to kill bloodboil |
| 22:17.57 | dracula | with the current expansion fever ppl lose interest |
| 22:18.11 | fewyn | but because they are in Sunwell they think they can slack on fights in BT |
| 22:19.09 | kadrahil | dracula that's what's happening to us |
| 22:19.15 | kadrahil | but i think with 3.0 and the sunwell nerf that might change |
| 22:19.23 | NivFreak | 30% less health |
| 22:19.26 | kadrahil | yep |
| 22:19.31 | NivFreak | no more sunwell raidance in theory |
| 22:19.39 | dracula | why is that ? |
| 22:19.43 | dracula | the 30% health reduction |
| 22:19.45 | kadrahil | i hate being one of those guilds that has to wait for nerfs to instances for progression |
| 22:19.58 | kadrahil | probably just to encourage progression dracula |
| 22:20.07 | dafire | to let everybody enjoy all content of bc |
| 22:20.12 | kadrahil | yeah |
| 22:20.16 | Aeyan | Polarina: http://www.wowwiki.com/Lake_Jorune |
| 22:20.20 | dracula | odd |
| 22:20.30 | dafire | like giving everybody pvp gear before bc |
| 22:20.42 | Pneumatus | wtb breadcrumbs on the bottom of each forum post :< |
| 22:20.46 | Dashkal | might as well, last month and then it's all 'worthless' content... |
| 22:20.54 | Pneumatus | well, thread page |
| 22:21.19 | dracula | I have hopes that with the new talents and the boss health reduction ppl will want to raid again |
| 22:21.19 | Polarina | Aeyan: Thanks. |
| 22:21.53 | thul | hmm, so.. is there anything ELSE than garrote/rupture/try to kite within charge-range i can do? |
| 22:21.56 | thul | as a rogue? |
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| 22:22.08 | Pneumatus | drums of panic |
| 22:22.14 | Pneumatus | rocket boots |
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| 22:25.05 | Repo | 10light-queue: 03funkydude * r42 LightQueue.toc: |
| 22:25.05 | Repo | LightQueue: TOC bump (test wowace commit) Believe it or not, I will update this for all BG's to be a comparable alternative for AVEnabler. |
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| 22:25.44 | dracula | wooo, 145 turnins to go |
| 22:26.50 | Repo | 10alttab: 03ckknight 06ckknights-clone * 6d19789fae81 AltTabber.lua: Fake commit |
| 22:29.26 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: will you make it respond to AVEnabler version querys so i can trick the fuckwads that say 'no you must have enabler!' |
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| 22:30.36 | Funkeh` | I guess |
| 22:31.14 | Funkeh` | I can probably just make it respond with lightqueue if it's not voerly aggresive |
| 22:31.19 | Funkeh` | overly* |
| 22:31.53 | Pneumatus | lightqueue = preformav without the monster frontend? |
| 22:32.15 | Funkeh` | um, sort of |
| 22:32.21 | Funkeh` | google lightueue |
| 22:32.25 | Funkeh` | it was pretty famous once |
| 22:32.30 | Funkeh` | "back in the day" |
| 22:32.44 | Arrowmaster | its actually been around since stinkyqueue before preformav was even popular |
| 22:33.06 | Funkeh` | yeah |
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| 22:34.13 | fewyn | bored |
| 22:35.12 | Funkeh` | Should I hold your hand and sing you a lullaby? |
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| 22:38.30 | fewyn | Funkeh`: unless you are a really hot chick, then no |
| 22:38.44 | Funkeh` | I am |
| 22:38.54 | fewyn | I dont believe you! |
| 22:39.05 | Funkeh` | Want to see a picture of me penis? |
| 22:39.20 | fewyn | noty |
| 22:39.42 | Funkeh` | Want to see a picture of me, penis? |
| 22:39.44 | fewyn | now whered vulcanus go |
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| 22:40.37 | fewyn | All the Alliance haircuts http://gallery.fewyn.net/v/WoWBarber/ (This took a long time suprisingly >_>) |
| 22:41.57 | Pneumatus | human female layered was broke the last time i had it |
| 22:42.04 | Pneumatus | it clips hideously with helms :< |
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| 22:42.54 | [SW]Dodge | fewyn: wtf... you seem to have to much time xD |
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| 22:43.24 | fewyn | exactly my point [SW]Dodge |
| 22:43.32 | Zhinjio | do saved variables not get saved at all in beta? |
| 22:43.38 | Zhinjio | or am I just missing something? |
| 22:43.40 | fewyn | they get saved |
| 22:43.45 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 22:44.04 | Zhinjio | I'm not seeing my settings persist through reloads |
| 22:44.10 | Zhinjio | something else must be wrong. |
| 22:45.37 | Aeyan | Mine reset randomly |
| 22:45.39 | Aeyan | Or did |
| 22:45.47 | Aeyan | Been several builds since I played for any length of time there |
| 22:46.04 | Zhinjio | well, I'm just talking about changing a setting, and having it persist through a reload. |
| 22:46.06 | Aeyan | Mostly an issue I had with uiscale, but some other graphics/sound stuff reset too |
| 22:46.07 | Zhinjio | even that doesn't work |
| 22:46.10 | Zhinjio | I know stuff gets wiped |
| 22:46.14 | Aeyan | I dunno about that |
| 22:46.31 | dracula | yes UI scale keeps resetting for me too |
| 22:46.32 | Zhinjio | I wonder if its an Ace3 thing, or the way ARL uses it. |
| 22:47.01 | Arrowmaster | probably the way ARL uses it |
| 22:47.13 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 22:47.16 | Arrowmaster | since ackis fails |
| 22:47.17 | Zhinjio | I tend to agree |
| 22:47.21 | Zhinjio | hhaahah |
| 22:47.23 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r208 BadBoy.toc: BadBoy: bad boy is bad |
| 22:47.38 | Zhinjio | have you seen any of the latest GUI screenies from the new version? |
| 22:47.48 | Zhinjio | I'm pretty happy with the way its shaping up |
| 22:47.56 | Arrowmaster | fewyn: you need to do horde haircuts |
| 22:48.13 | digmouse | did they fix the god-damn shadow issue? |
| 22:48.26 | fewyn | i am Arrowmaster |
| 22:48.31 | fewyn | im taking a short break from it |
| 22:48.53 | fewyn | long ass walk from darnasus/exodar to auberdine and taking the sw boat |
| 22:49.18 | Funkeh` | http://www.wowace.com/projects/bad-boy/files/ lolfuck |
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| 22:49.25 | Funkeh` | 11 pages |
| 22:49.45 | [SW]Dodge | lol |
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| 22:49.49 | Arrowmaster | fewyn: sw the only alliance town with a barber? |
| 22:49.57 | fewyn | Arrowmaster: that and ironforge |
| 22:51.07 | Arrowmaster | you should have zoomed in more |
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| 22:53.27 | digmouse | what's the price of paid-renaming in US and EU? |
| 22:53.58 | Fisker- | â¬10 in EU |
| 22:54.03 | Fisker- | or 9.99 or something silly like that |
| 22:54.35 | Fisker- | wait |
| 22:54.39 | Fisker- | â¬8.00 actually >:3 |
| 22:54.43 | digmouse | 100 CNY woot |
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| 22:55.00 | digmouse | that's 80 for me |
| 22:55.03 | Xinhuan | $25 USD in us |
| 22:55.04 | [SW]Dodge | 8eu in eu |
| 22:55.23 | [SW]Dodge | 8* in eu :P |
| 22:55.43 | digmouse | 25ï¿¥ rlly? |
| 22:55.53 | digmouse | I mean 25$ |
| 22:56.30 | Xinhuan | no i lied, its $24.99 |
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| 22:56.46 | Fisker- | i am in disbelief |
| 22:56.49 | digmouse | lol |
| 22:56.50 | Fisker- | sure you're not talking about PCT? |
| 22:57.48 | digmouse | and paid realm transfer? |
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| 22:58.42 | Xinhuan | oh heh |
| 22:58.57 | Xinhuan | renames are $10, but transfers are $25... but transfers include renaming :) |
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| 22:59.14 | Xinhuan | transfers free up the name right away on the old server |
| 22:59.20 | Xinhuan | renames free it up only after 90 days |
| 22:59.53 | digmouse | ya I guess it should not be so high just renaming |
| 23:00.47 | Fisker- | technically not Xinhuan :P |
| 23:00.51 | durcyn_ | so, who do i talk to about getting projects assigned, since i apparently missed the whole X-Email thing |
| 23:01.05 | Fisker- | It's considered abuse to rename your character through the PCT if you do it intentionally |
| 23:01.19 | Fisker- | Though obviously blizzard have a hard time finding out unless you confess :P |
| 23:02.06 | digmouse | I always rename on PCT |
| 23:02.12 | digmouse | even I dont really need it |
| 23:02.18 | NeoTron | Fisker-: that's dumb. really |
| 23:02.35 | Fisker- | what is? |
| 23:02.43 | NeoTron | that it's not "allowed" to rename |
| 23:02.44 | Fisker- | Confessing or that it's considered abuse? :P |
| 23:02.49 | Fisker- | Yeah :P |
| 23:02.51 | NeoTron | PCT is imho a superset of name changes |
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| 23:03.16 | digmouse | Hey guys we are offending the EULA! Blizzard: I didnt find that |
| 23:03.23 | Fisker- | I remember someone who got a warning for it because he said he was trying to get his character renamed but made the character on the destination realm in the wrong name |
| 23:03.23 | Fisker- | :D |
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| 23:05.24 | digmouse | damn the last cursed talisman wont drop |
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| 23:09.02 | digmouse | any profession recommendation? I rerolled my lv60 mage which I started 2 years ago and she has no profession now |
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| 23:13.28 | Dashkal | Flying Carpet |
| 23:14.01 | NeoTron | tailoring, enchanting, alchemy or inscription if you want ones that are likely to benefit you |
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| 23:15.35 | winkiller | 1336g 85s. shit |
| 23:15.39 | Funkeh` | ckknight, having fun? |
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| 23:15.51 | ckknight | things are alright |
| 23:15.52 | ckknight | almost done |
| 23:16.40 | digmouse | decided Alchemy since my main is Herb and she needs potions in raiding, but cant decide what's the 2nd |
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| 23:20.28 | ckknight | omg yes |
| 23:20.31 | ckknight | it fucking worked! |
| 23:20.47 | Xinhuan | what worked? o_O |
| 23:21.01 | Dashkal | uh, grats? |
| 23:21.04 | ckknight | local externals, specifically Ace3, which has folders under the trunk |
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| 23:21.19 | ckknight | also, due to the way I set it up, I figured out a good way to have subfolders for git and hg |
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| 23:22.59 | whatsinthename | what happened to all the ace docs? i cant find the links on the new site |
| 23:23.15 | ckknight | http://old.wowace.com/wiki/Main_Page |
| 23:23.54 | whatsinthename | are they gonna be moved to the new site? |
| 23:24.38 | ckknight | eventually, yes |
| 23:25.14 | chiper | reads the subject url. so I guess this means WAU is useless now, eh? |
| 23:25.28 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:25.36 | chiper | sigh, 3.0.2 is gonna be a real bitch |
| 23:25.52 | ckknight | why's that? |
| 23:25.57 | QuantumDelta | old fashioned way <3 |
| 23:26.11 | chiper | gonna take a lot more effort to find the updates I need |
| 23:26.31 | QuantumDelta | Is it possible (or has someone already done it?) to get the client to not hide 'low level quests' exclamation marks above npcs? :< |
| 23:26.52 | chiper | QuantumDelta: I think that's coming in 3.x |
| 23:27.02 | chiper | there's a new tracking option for low level quests |
| 23:27.13 | QuantumDelta | hmm |
| 23:28.06 | QuantumDelta | goes'n'checks |
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| 23:31.26 | Kilroo | Hmm |
| 23:31.36 | QuantumDelta | It's not in the current beta build |
| 23:31.45 | Kilroo | Ok, time to start looking for updates and replacements for all these things that are out of date. |
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| 23:33.51 | whatsinthename | is there a way to get a list of all the displayed/frames objects on the screen at a time |
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| 23:34.32 | Xinhuan | enumerate all frames |
| 23:34.39 | Xinhuan | and check :IsVisible() |
| 23:35.08 | Xinhuan | ckknight, authors can't edit repositories, only project leads? |
| 23:35.19 | ckknight | I believe so |
| 23:35.33 | Zhinjio | you can clone, though, if you want |
| 23:35.35 | chiper | hrm, does that page listing all the changes that this new site encompases still exist? I can't remember all the details of what this changeover means |
| 23:35.45 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/omen/repositories/wrath/ |
| 23:35.52 | Xinhuan | can you change that to package on alphas as well? |
| 23:35.57 | chiper | trying to explain it to a friend and finding myself a little lacking |
| 23:36.18 | Xinhuan | or change project lead to me ;p |
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| 23:36.25 | Xinhuan | nev said project leads are unedittable for clones lol |
| 23:37.11 | Xinhuan | which could be a bug |
| 23:37.16 | NeoTron | so is Omen working with the new threat API ten? |
| 23:37.43 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 23:37.54 | Xinhuan | i've opted for raid scanning heh |
| 23:38.03 | Xinhuan | there's no other feasible way to do it |
| 23:38.10 | NeoTron | been using diamond threat meter so far |
| 23:38.12 | Xinhuan | without requring syncing that is |
| 23:38.26 | Xinhuan | so its either "use syncing" or "use raid scanning" |
| 23:39.07 | ckknight | Xinhuan: done |
| 23:39.26 | ckknight | and yea, that is a bug, you should be able to change repo leads |
| 23:39.27 | Xinhuan | ckknight, that doesn't repackage past commits right? |
| 23:39.32 | ckknight | right |
| 23:39.53 | Xinhuan | it'll be more convenient if alpha testers can download alpha packages |
| 23:39.54 | Xinhuan | as it is |
| 23:42.06 | Xinhuan | omen3 currently uses... 90 kb of ram (lol) |
| 23:42.34 | digmouse | what i care is CPU usage |
| 23:42.46 | Xinhuan | i can't really measure that |
| 23:42.48 | Xinhuan | yet |
| 23:42.54 | Kilroo | Hmm. |
| 23:43.07 | Xinhuan | do you know of a addon performance tool that works on wrath? |
| 23:43.20 | Kilroo | should make a list of his addons that are 2.3-compatible. |
| 23:43.50 | digmouse | dont know if Profiler works |
| 23:44.02 | Xinhuan | i just logged on.. i'm in valiance keep and i have a "essence of wintergrasp" buff :o |
| 23:45.02 | leech2k | is omen needed after 3.0? |
| 23:45.11 | ckknight | for display, minimally |
| 23:45.14 | Xinhuan | if you want to see threat, yes |
| 23:45.35 | leech2k | Doesn't blizzard have a built in bar ui now though? |
| 23:45.40 | Xinhuan | they removed it |
| 23:45.43 | leech2k | ah |
| 23:45.47 | Xinhuan | about 4 builds ago |
| 23:45.55 | leech2k | I am so far behind. |
| 23:45.56 | Arrowmaster | they did? |
| 23:45.59 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 23:46.05 | Arrowmaster | then why is there an option for it in the UI? |
| 23:46.13 | Xinhuan | its only for blizzard's built-in SCT |
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| 23:46.23 | Xinhuan | on your target that is |
| 23:46.41 | Xinhuan | my goal is for omen3 to use less than 100kb, but that might prove difficult once i include in the config and option tables |
| 23:47.00 | digmouse | change target, attacking u, high threat, etc |
| 23:47.08 | ckknight | Omen3_Settings |
| 23:47.33 | Xinhuan | i'm not terribly keen with options being in a different addon |
| 23:47.48 | Xinhuan | probably just make a function to create the option tables on demand instead |
| 23:48.22 | Arrowmaster | that wont really reduce memory usage |
| 23:48.40 | Arrowmaster | and i dont see why you would want to try and keep it that small |
| 23:48.54 | Xinhuan | we'll see :) |
| 23:49.05 | NeoTron | I made my decision between deathknight and ret pally - I picked hunter |
| 23:49.11 | Xinhuan | i dont' think there will be more than 20 options anyway |
| 23:49.30 | digmouse | i decided to reroll mage |
| 23:49.30 | NeoTron | to be clear, I swapped role with a friend who'll play the DK and I'll play hunter - ranged DPS is better from a raid leadership perspective |
| 23:49.49 | digmouse | my main is hunter |
| 23:49.51 | leech2k | Any chance of a counter being added to the files page that shows how many time each zip has been downloaded? (on wowace.com) |
| 23:50.05 | Xinhuan | omg seconded that request leech2k |
| 23:52.03 | ckknight | leech2k: already a ticket for that |
| 23:52.28 | leech2k | ckknight: sweet |
| 23:52.32 | digmouse | just writing new wowace and curse client tutorials for noob users |
| 23:53.03 | Kilroo | I hate the curse client already |
| 23:53.13 | Kilroo | Not too much though. |
| 23:53.26 | Kilroo | It's not that it's actually BAD, it's just not as good as WUU. |
| 23:53.48 | digmouse | I miss WAU |
| 23:53.56 | leech2k | seems ok to me so far, just different, after I look past the sneaky mod install |
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| 23:54.18 | digmouse | but you cant update things in a row if you dont pay for it |
| 23:54.29 | Xinhuan | sneaky mod install? |
| 23:54.41 | leech2k | the data collection mod it installs |
| 23:54.50 | Xinhuan | just disable it ;p |
| 23:55.06 | leech2k | I did. It would be nice if the installer asked you first though. |
| 23:55.20 | leech2k | Maybe a little checkbox defaulted to on or something. |
| 23:55.37 | Kilroo | Hm. |
| 23:55.57 | Kilroo | Guess the client can't see everything. |
| 23:56.01 | digmouse | wondering if it will be available in my native language |
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| 23:56.37 | leech2k | Any word if "release" mods are pushing over to curse.com yet? |
| 23:56.48 | Windcape | hey, I got a question about SharedMedia. What addon to install lol? There's LibSharedMedia 2, 3, SharedMedia and SharedMediaLib |
| 23:57.08 | Kilroo | What're "release" mods? |
| 23:57.30 | leech2k | Well files tagged as "Release".... |
| 23:57.41 | Kilroo | Ah. |
| 23:57.46 | Kilroo | Oh, I see what it is. |
| 23:57.55 | digmouse | windcape: SM is an addon based on LSM |
| 23:57.58 | Kilroo | Curse client won't show things that are out of date. |
| 23:58.03 | [SW]Dodge | wtf... ForceQuit() is evil... cant login "A character with that name already exists" |
| 23:58.10 | Kilroo | Wow, a September 29 release is out of date. |
| 23:58.14 | Windcape | digmouse yes, but I don't use diseembedded libs |
| 23:58.32 | digmouse | then try SM with embedded lib |
| 23:58.44 | digmouse | it should support LSM1, 2 and 3 now |
| 23:58.50 | Arrowmaster | Windcape: "SharedMedia" the rest are libs that will do nothing for you |
| 23:59.10 | Arrowmaster | digmouse: sharedmedia doesnt have any embeded libs |
| 23:59.22 | Windcape | also, when is the WAU taken down? |
| 23:59.36 | digmouse | woot, I dont use that, just another little one |
| 23:59.38 | Arrowmaster | its already dead |
| 23:59.43 | digmouse | use new curse client |
