IRC log for #wowace on 20080929

00:01.07Odlawanyone able to connect to curseforge?
00:01.36Pkekyo|from 250 + to 37 addons (excluding libs)... not too shabby imo
00:02.16Odlawnm.. ah found news on it
00:04.47Cryectnot bad Pkekyo|
00:05.20Zeksieulic: starter quests in Borean Tundra, when you go to the coastal bit
00:05.36ulicoh cool, thanks Zeksie!
00:05.57Zeksieyou'll have to do about 4 pre-quests for the goblin there, but doesn't take long
00:06.51ulicremember the name of any of the quests by chance?
00:07.06Zeksieerm..
00:07.16Zeksiesec
00:07.24ulicI guess I can just find all quests in Borean and figure i tout.
00:07.26Xinhuanwhatcha up to Zeksie?
00:07.33Xinhuanhaven't seen you around for month
00:07.35Xinhuan+s
00:07.45ZeksieInto the Mist
00:07.57Zeksienot same guy, but right area
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00:08.05Zeksiehi Xin ;)
00:08.12Xinhuanhehe
00:08.24Zeksiebeen busy finishing off reps and other useless crap on Zek ;)
00:08.29Zeksie32 exalted.. lawl
00:08.31Xinhuanshould have seen the zomgbuffs thread explode
00:08.34Xinhuan32? weak
00:08.49Xinhuani am on 38. until i decided to kill my 4 goblin reps for pirates a few days ago
00:08.50Zeksieok.. so i don't have Ravenholdt..
00:09.03Xinhuanso i'm on 34 now
00:09.19Zeksiethe others are just a pain :)
00:09.58Zeksietweaking x-perl atm.. giving the highlights some love. converting some of it to use GUIDs, more reliable. and added a neato POM tracker which bouncy gfx !
00:10.51Zeksiere- zomg thread: i got a little erm, tired of repeatedly answering dumb questions on there and x-perl pages. so i stoped looking at them for a while.
00:12.07XinhuanAiiane
00:12.07Xinhuanlol
00:12.37Xinhuani see someone confused you with Aliane on the WAR forums
00:12.56Xinhuanwho is a shaman in my guild on Blackrock server ;p
00:13.28Zeksiegotta run anyway. 1am here. :)
00:14.12Aiianehehe Xinhuan
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00:14.34Xinhuanhe's like /o no raids today? BYE
00:14.38Xinhuanand logs on WAR
00:15.23fewyni'd be like /gkick
00:15.45Xinhuani wouldn't have a guild left
00:15.48CIA-6103zeksie * r82156 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_BuffTehRaid/ZOMGBuffs_BuffTehRaid.lua: ZOMGBuffs_BuffTehRaid: Fixed the quirky autobuff behaviour. Should not ask you to group buff when not everyone is present any more.
00:15.50Xinhuanif i gkicked everyone ;p
00:16.42ZhinjioGood afternoon, Xinhuan
00:16.47Xinhuanhi
00:16.54ZhinjioHow're you?
00:17.50Xinhuantrying not to kill myself while writing Omen3
00:18.03Xinhuandoes sharedmedia library even work on beta?
00:19.09ulicXinhuan: I'm on beta now and I see like 30 bar textures listed so I'd say yes.
00:19.21Xinhuanwhats the exact library name?
00:19.36Xinhuanalso, i'm browsing through KTM code :)
00:20.20XinhuanCan anyone find out if the old rank 11 commander rank mounts count as the same or different mounts from the ones available after the old honor system is removed?
00:20.34ulicLibSharedMedia-3.0 I think it should be.  I just loaded up PitBull config and saw the huge list.
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00:22.13Xinhuanthere's no media in LibSharedMedia-3.0
00:22.15Xinhuanlol
00:22.43Zeksieyeah, it works. using it in ZOMG. but had to manually LoadAddOn() to pick it up.
00:23.03Xinhuanso where's the actual media?
00:23.13ZeksieSharedMedia
00:23.18Zeksieseperate downlaod
00:23.31Zeksienot a lib, just media and a bunch of :Register(stuff)
00:23.40RandomZOMG?
00:23.42Xinhuanif you don't have that, is there any default options?
00:23.59ZeksieYeah, like the default statusbar from blizz and a couple of others
00:24.03ZeksieRandom: ZOMGBuffs
00:24.11Randomoh i was thinking zomganime rofl
00:24.47Zeksienowai.. a buff addon of awesomeness, and if you dare say the name is crap, I will tear your eyeballs out, cos it's great
00:25.00Zeksiealthough the icon is shit
00:25.08Randomi can make you a new icon
00:25.23Zeksieyou are welcome to try
00:25.28Randomwhats it about?
00:25.34Randomill see if i can make something related to it
00:25.43Zeksieit's like: PallyPower + SmartBuff + BigBrother all in one
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00:25.58Randomwheres the current icon for it?
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00:26.29Zeksietrunk/ZOMGBuffs/Textures/Icon.blp
00:26.44Randomuh trunk? ill need an actual website
00:27.02CIA-6103pericles 07WotLK * r82157 10ShockAndAwe/ (ShockAndAwe.lua ShockAndAwe.toc):
00:27.02CIA-61ShockAndAwe: -
00:27.02CIA-61Version 2.51
00:27.02CIA-61<PROTECTED>
00:27.13Zeksiehttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ZOMGBuffs/Textures/Icon.blp
00:27.29Randomok
00:27.32Randomwhen i got time i can do it
00:27.41Zeksiesure thing. would be appreciated. I have no art ;)
00:27.47Randomi gotta edit these 3 websites first
00:27.54Randomannoying sc2 fans i swear
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00:28.08ZeksiePost it to the ZOMGBuffs forum or something if you do it ;)
00:28.13Randomok
00:28.16Zeksieon the wowace, General Addons bit
00:28.16RandomAnd that url is?
00:28.19Randomok
00:28.43Zeksieit has it's own thread
00:28.47Zeksiethanks in advance ;)
00:28.54Zeksienow I really have to go to bed, again. nite ;)
00:29.00CryectZeksie the name is crap!
00:29.04Cryect:-p
00:29.04Zeksiehush!
00:30.20Randomall my names on the forum are taken ): guess ill have to use some ghetto one
00:30.41Repo10test-bravo: 03ckknight * v0.1-74-g8c19283 TestBravo.lua: blah
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00:55.54CIA-6103cryect * r82158 10Recount2/ (6 files in 6 dirs):
00:55.56CIA-61Recount2:
00:55.58CIA-61-Allows prefiltering of combat events based on event type and affiliation
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01:46.44CIA-6103LordFarlander * r82159 10LibLordFarlander-2.0/LibLordFarlander-UI-2.0/LibLordFarlander-UI-2.0.lua:
01:46.44CIA-61LibLordFarlander-2.0:
01:46.44CIA-61- Button hiding appears to work correctly now. Button is hidden but bound key action will still work :)
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02:26.40CIA-61Prat-3.0 (Alpha):
02:26.40CIA-61Add a broker launcher. Make some changes to how the playernames module
02:26.40CIA-61handles case.
02:36.23CIA-6103egingell * r82161 10XRayVision/ (XRayVision.lua XRayVision.toc):
02:36.23CIA-61XRayVision
02:36.23CIA-61- Fixer for PTR
02:36.23CIA-61- Removed Ace (sorry, but I don't need it)
02:45.34CIA-6103piranther 07WotLK_Beta * r82162 10PiraPlex/PiraPlex.lua: PiraPlex :- Fix addon status detection
02:49.50QuaicheAnyone know if their is a direct API replacement for GetPlayerBuff in 3.0? I'm supposing I can hack around it with UnitBuff, but if it just changed names, there might be an easier way.
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03:05.25digmouseisnt it contained in Iriel's post?
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03:40.59Moddingtonooh, I like the new beta site
03:47.06Groktardevours Moddington's soul
03:47.13Moddington!!!
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03:47.28Moddingtonbut I like my soul
03:47.33Moddingtonsteals it back.
03:49.03Groktaroffers fewyn's soul in exchange
03:59.59Moddingtonno thanks
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04:28.43Xinhuanheh, ktm is using bubble sort ;p
04:28.50Groktarwhat?
04:28.54Groktarno way
04:29.14Groktarwhat's he sorting with it?
04:29.35Xinhuanjust a series of tables
04:29.48Xinhuanthe exact comments is
04:29.51Xinhuan"Implementing custom sorting. While i can't say for sure, i'm guessing that the lua implementation is using quicksort, and it's getting confused by recycled tables, so it's basically sucking."
04:29.56Xinhuan"This is going to be O(n^2) instead, but n is small enough to make no difference."
04:30.38Groktarhehe
04:31.11Yssarili have never had luas sort get "Confused" unless he isnt clearing the table all the way /shrug
04:31.15Xinhuanbasically, he has a table {}
04:31.26Xinhuanwith fields like guid, name, threat and class
04:31.33Xinhuanand he's sorting these tables by threat value
04:31.50Xinhuanso each person in the raid has such a table
04:32.04YssarilOUCH
04:32.23Xinhuanso if there are 28 ppl in the raid, that's just 28 tables
04:32.27Xinhuanone for each person
04:32.41Xinhuanand a master table containing pointers to those 28
04:32.45Xinhuanindexed numerically
04:33.18Xinhuanon the other hand, i just have 5 tables
04:33.52Xinhuanone for guid -> name lookup, one for guid -> class lookup, one for guid -> threat lookup
04:34.06Xinhuanand a table of guids indexed from 1 to 28 that i sort
04:34.41Xinhuani actually think his method is faster
04:35.24Yssarilwhat do you mean faster?
04:35.54Xinhuanbecause using the internal table.sort() by passing it a custom sort function, means your sort function gets called a lot from within table.sort, while a custom (even bubble) sort function doesn't require any function calls
04:36.57Yssarillast time i tried i was never able to get a custom sort to be faster than the table.sort (might just be cause i suck though)
04:37.12Xinhuanwhat custom sort algo were u using?
04:37.23Xinhuanshell? quick? heap? bubble? insertion?
04:37.33Yssarili dont remember but i think you actually pointed me to it :P
04:39.57Yssarilif its easy to isolate his sort function rip it out and run some tests on it imo
04:40.49Xinhuancbf
04:44.53Cryecthe really should use a insertion sort for something like threat
04:45.17Cryectshould be reasonably faster than the built in quick sort
04:45.25Xinhuanis string concantenation slower than table lookup?
04:46.04Xinhuansuppose i have a table t = {"party1", "party2", "party3", "party4"}
04:46.07Cryectstring concantenation is slower than doing string.format("%s%s", string1, string2) for some reason so prolly
04:46.15ckknightwrong, Cryect
04:46.20Xinhuanis accessing t[i] faster than doing "party"..i ?
04:46.29ckknightif both string1 and string2 are strings and not something else like numbers, concatenation is faster
04:46.48Xinhuanwhat do you think of my question ckknight?
04:46.51CryectOh its only for formating changes
04:47.05ckknightXinhuan: the table thing is gonna be far faster but use more memory
04:47.05Xinhuanplaying with a lot of unitIDs here
04:47.22ckknightthe end result is likely negligible
04:47.23Xinhuanits only a table of 4 in this case, since you wouldn't ever have party5
04:47.25ckknightno matter what you try
04:47.32Xinhuansame for a raid case, up to 40
04:47.35Cryecthow slow is memoziation is what it comes down to though
04:48.31Cryectcurious Xinhuan what you want to do this for that you are considering this optimization?
04:48.40Xinhuanraid scanning
04:48.53Xinhuanfor the units, their pets and their targets
04:48.54Cryectall your UnitWhatever calls are way slower than your concats
04:49.37ckknightyea, they'll be vastly slower
04:49.51Xinhuanwhat do you think of table.sort vs a custom sort then?
04:50.18Xinhuanpassing in a sort function to table.sort causes table.sort to call your function lots - its a lot of function calls even at n log(n)
04:50.50GroktarKJ 10%!
04:52.13ckknightXinhuan: imo, stick to table.sort
04:52.46Xinhuani suppose its neglible again at small N (smaller than 40)
04:53.11Cryectxinhuan, heh you have me tempted to try an insertion sort for resorting data that prolly hasn't changed much
04:53.34Xinhuanlol
04:53.46Cryectbut I know its pointless considering the sort is not really ever the expensive part
04:54.55Xinhuanwell
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04:55.23Xinhuani think t[i] would be faster than format("party%d", i)
04:55.25Xinhuanroflrofl
04:55.39Cryectit should be
04:55.55Xinhuansince its already known format("party%d", i) is faster than "party"..i
04:56.19Xinhuanso prebuilding a table of unitIDs is probably fastest
04:56.36KeiasGogo Groktar.
04:57.13Aiianehmm... yeah, unfortunately this isn't C Xinhuan
04:57.36Aiianeso you can't just do a = "party1" and then a[5] += offset
04:57.37Aiiane:P
04:57.42Aiianeor party0
04:57.46AiianeI should say
04:58.17ckknightstrings are immutable
04:58.22Aiianeyeah ckknight
04:58.26Aiianehence why I said 'this isn't C'
04:58.36ckknight*thumbs up*
04:58.40Cryectheh you get fast string compares though instead!
05:03.32WobWorks'true
05:06.13Groktarpfft
05:06.18GroktarLOVES strings in C
05:06.27ckknightdoes not
05:10.10CryectI prefer strings in python
05:10.26ckknightpython strings are also immutable
05:11.40Cryectyeah but easier to slice :-p
05:12.44ckknightlua's is basically just as easy
05:12.53ckknightpretty much
05:13.01ckknightit just does :sub(a, b) instead of [a:b]
05:13.39Cryectfor some reason I prefer not having to write sub
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05:24.34whatsinthenamego perl or go home
05:24.43ckknight...no
05:24.52nymbiai am home
05:24.59whatsinthenamelol
05:25.04Cryectif all you care about is string parsing maybe but if you want to do something a little more interesting how about no :-p
05:26.30whatsinthenamewell python and perl strings capability are quite similar, i am just more familiar with perl
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05:28.47GngskKemayo, ping
05:28.50CIA-61tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r45106ff 10/ README.textile : README update - http://is.gd/3glO
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05:51.55whatsinthenameis there a way to create a function like global_func, which i can call from any module without really needing a prefix
05:51.59ckknightyes, but it's evil
05:51.59ckknightuse namespacing
05:52.00whatsinthenamedont tell me now, its evil
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05:57.55Groktarhuggles ckknight
05:58.01ckknighto noes
05:58.08ckknightnot teh Groktar-huggles!
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06:09.09CIA-6103cryect * r82164 10Recount2/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
06:09.09CIA-61Recount2:
06:09.09CIA-61-Adds a Short function for expressions to convert number over a million to %.2fm and over a thousand to %.1fk
06:09.09CIA-61-Adds a target scan cache for when looking up a unitID for a GUID
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06:47.53FrigidaireCan anyone suggest a cooldown timer that will tell SCT when cooldowns are up, and print them to sct?
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06:59.11[SW]Dodgeg'morning :D
06:59.34ZyndromeDAI
07:00.24Zyndromeand lul, just went on to the beta and tried retribution at 70 in Strat ... cleared in 30 mins :<
07:00.42WobWorkSurprise?
07:00.53[SW]DodgeZyndrome: old strat=?
07:00.59Zyndromeyeh
07:01.16Zyndromesooooo when the patch goes live and damage stays like it is ... oh boy :P
07:01.22Zyndromeand if*
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07:42.40mitch0didum
07:44.24nevcairielanyone know a good dark firefox skin?
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07:47.21CIA-6103whitetooth * r82166 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: StatLogicLib: AutoDoc update
07:47.32mitch0just tone down your brightness and gamma settings ;)
07:47.56mitch0or use opera with the new default skin ;)
07:49.19nevcairielopera smells
07:49.35Chosiopera smells like teen spirit
07:49.52Chosilove the mouse gestures
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07:54.52Cheadshttp://www.wowace.com/forums/ and  http://forums.wowace.com/ are they supposed to be two seperate forums?
07:57.26AdirelleCheads: I think http://forums.wowace.com/ is the future forum and http://www.wowace.com/forums/ the old one
07:57.29Zyndromedont think so , the latter is beta
07:57.41Zyndromeand "Login" 404's :p
07:59.13Adirellebeta = future release
07:59.22AdirelleI mean "will become"
08:00.18CheadsZyndrome I can login to the new one
08:01.00CheadsAdirelle: thanks, I bet you are right =)
08:01.34AdirelleZyndrome: according to Kaelten, the current forum content should be imported in vBulletion, that is the beta forum (http://forums.wowace.com/)
08:01.39Adirellethat should happen soon(tm)
08:01.51ZyndromeSoon Inc & Co.
08:03.03AdirelleI know that the repo switching should happen today but I don't know about the forum
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08:08.00[SW]DodgeAdirelle: "should happen today" is like soon, if you check teh announcement you see that it allready should be done since 23rd/24th ;) and Kaelten told me on thursday that it should happen last friday.. :D
08:08.18[SW]Dodgei'll just belive that they'll do it today if it is done :P
08:08.37Adirelle[SW]Dodge: I know, he tells yesterday that should happen monday :p
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08:08.54[SW]Dodge:D
08:09.03orionshockwell did the repo move happen yet?
08:11.25nevcairielit will happen today, once the crazy USers wake up
08:12.04[SW]Dodgehm US time is ~4am right? so it will take some hours :X
08:12.29Zyndromeand THEMers
08:12.31Zyndrome~rimshot
08:12.32purlba-dum CHH
08:15.06orionshockkk, i need a project removed from the beta site... it's a duplicate
08:15.27[SW]Dodgeorionshock: beta will be cleared
08:15.33orionshockah
08:15.45[SW]Dodgeeverything what is in beta will be removed and reimported (afaik!)
08:16.11nevcairielbeta was only for testing
08:21.34Groktarrifles through nevcairiel's underwear drawer when he's not looking
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08:27.10Fisker-are you sure nevcairiel ?
08:40.44[SW]Dodgeiirc there was a smal lua script that reads a file and collect all L[] elements, anyone know where i can get it? :D
08:41.31nevcairielBartender4 in the locale directory
08:41.48[SW]Dodgethanks :)
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08:42.15nevcairielits rather specific, but if you some lua, you will understand it
08:42.19nevcairielits pretty easy
08:45.03nevcairielI should split it into 2 files, a config and a core
08:45.07nevcairielso everyone can use it 0P
08:46.15Groktaryou can put it in ace!
08:46.46Groktarlicks nevcairiel's ear
08:49.39Fisker-looks deeply into nevcairiel's eyes
08:50.39CIA-61bartender4: 03Hendrik Leppkes 07wrath * r8664664 10/ locale/Babelfish.lua : Added more configuration variables to the Babelfish script - http://is.gd/3gBN
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08:59.01[SW]Dodgelua: Babelfish.lua:111: bad argument #3 to 'format' (string expected, got boolean)
08:59.04[SW]Dodge:D'
08:59.20CIA-61bartender4: 03Hendrik Leppkes 07wrath * ra502a90 10/ locale/Babelfish.lua : Allow configurationg of a different base locale in Babelfish Script - http://is.gd/3gCl
08:59.30CIA-61bartender4: 03Hendrik Leppkes 07wrath * rc172c77 10/ locale/Babelfish.lua : Added support for non-true values in the base locale - http://is.gd/3gCm
09:01.15CIA-61bartender4: 03Hendrik Leppkes 07wrath * rca8e48a 10/ locale/Babelfish.lua : Added a type check when writing the locale files - http://is.gd/3gCt
09:01.32nevcairieluse the git version now =P
09:01.47Industrialok hendrik :D
09:02.11nevcairielOh hey its tom
09:02.17Industrial^^
09:02.36Fisker-lolool hendrik
09:02.38[SW]Dodgenev love u :D!
09:02.50CIA-61ouf_grid: 03Tekkub 07master * red6ad6a 10/ oUF/ouf.lua : Temp fix for latest wrath build - http://is.gd/3gCz
09:02.56CIA-61ouf_grid: 03Tekkub 07master * r8d7ecb8 10/ oUF_Grid.toc : AddonLoader goodness - http://is.gd/3gCA
09:03.07Industrialomgtekkuboufwtf
09:03.07CIA-61ouf_grid: 03Tekkub 07master * rfadb6ee 10/ core.lua : Change position a smidge - http://is.gd/3gCC
09:09.30[SW]Dodgenevcairiel: the script also removes outdated translations, like if i have L["foo"] = "bar" but dont use L["foo"] longer in one of teh code files?
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09:11.18nevcairielyea
09:11.21nevcairielthose are removed
09:11.23FrigidaireMornin'.
09:11.30[SW]Dodgenice :D
09:12.22FrigidaireAnyone use beql?
09:13.34Cheadsnot anymore changed to questguru
09:14.12Frigidaireo.O  Better than beql?  Have a tracker like beql?
09:14.20Groktarmakes murloc sounds
09:17.02Cheadsyeah
09:17.22Fisker-Groktar
09:17.23Fisker-my friend
09:18.05Xinhuanwhat time is the wowace move today? :)
09:19.20Groktargets ready to steal Xinhuan's projects
09:19.22nevcairielwhen the US people wake up and start it
09:19.29nevcairielnot sure how long the script will need to run
09:20.32Xinhuanhow long do you think?
09:20.53nevcairiela few hours
09:21.02mitch0I think it'll take a while to import all that junk
09:22.11Groktarvotes to append _groktar to all project names
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09:26.52ElgrenHello guys, I got some mod constantly freezing my wow. Giving me "not enough memory" error.
09:26.56ElgrenAny known issue atm?
09:27.12nevcairielnot that i know of
09:27.30Elgrenok ill try to figure out wich one.
09:27.47Elgren[SW]Dodge man, good updates :D
09:27.56Elgrenhowever I do have a request :D
09:29.08[SW]DodgeElgren: hm? :>
09:30.04Elgrenye
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09:30.16Elgrenyou remember me? I requested shared cooldowns for warrior
09:30.22Elgrenyou made it in like 10 sec :)
09:30.33Elgrenhowever I want those cool splitted icon I have for my shaman!
09:30.51Elgrenfor the shock etc
09:30.56Elgrenloved that :D if its possible
09:31.19Elgrenrevenge/overpower shared icon, and shieldwall/retaliation/recklessness shared icon
09:31.32Elgrennow I see retaliation icon, and overpower icon for the shared ones
09:32.23[SW]Dodgeit is possible
09:32.37[SW]Dodgebut for that i have to create that icon :D
09:33.02Elgrenyes
09:33.06ElgrenI wish I could
09:33.12Elgrenbut I aint got any skills for that
09:33.13[SW]Dodgei'll do that later, currently working on reimplementing chatpost :>
09:33.13Elgren:/
09:33.28Elgrenchatpost, whats that?
09:34.09Elgrenill check it out. dont let me leech more of ur time now. however remember the icons!!!
09:35.15[SW]Dodgeyou can click a button and it will announce the remaining CD to a channel (http://imgnow.de/uploads/chatpost13ajpg.jpg)
09:35.40Elgrenah that
09:35.49Elgrenyes I remember that option when I first started using ur mod
09:39.46Xinhuano_O nobody online northrend alliance
09:39.50Xinhuanthat's rare
09:39.57Zyndromehttp://www.stacken.kth.se/~vladi/orebros_kommunala_musikskola_2008.mp3
09:40.03ZyndromeAHAHAHA oh god that is so fukken bad
09:40.20Zyndromegod Im gasping for air
09:41.57Fisker-btw nevcairiel
09:42.10Fisker-When the data is moved that also means files/wau will be shut down right?
09:42.31nevcairielright
09:44.13Fisker-So any kind of transition document i can feed my guild? :P
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09:47.37FrigidaireAnyone have any idea why I wouldn't be able to move the beql quest tracker?  I mean, I can move it, but it just snaps back into place.
09:48.15[SW]Dodgeyou seem to have another addon that handels quest tracker
09:48.21[SW]Dodge+position
09:48.38[SW]Dodgeiirc chinchilla did something similar to me
09:49.09FrigidaireHeh, before I read that I looked at my minimap and remembered chinchilla had something to do with the tracker, so checking the options now.
09:49.24[SW]Dodgeits on position submenu
09:49.25[SW]Dodge:D
09:49.44FrigidaireThanks!  ^^
09:50.05[SW]Dodgeno problem
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09:54.52CIA-6103arrowmaster * r82169 10Ace2/ (12 files in 12 dirs): Ace2: merge WotLK branch into trunk
09:55.10Arrowmasterzee shit has hit zee fan
09:55.49nevcairielcouldnt you have waited for the new packager later today <.<
09:56.40Arrowmasterno
09:56.48Arrowmasterthe idea was to do that before that happened
09:57.08Arrowmastersince the new system does not automaticly repack updated libraries
09:58.58[SW]DodgeElgren: if you want to help with the icons, go to wowhead and search the abilitys and send me the links in query
09:59.00nevcairielhow did every file end up being modified
09:59.19ArrowmasterruRU localizations i was asked to add months ago
09:59.32CIA-6103whitetooth * r82170 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: StatLogicLib: Fixed error, updated comments
10:01.21nevcairielpoor packager
10:01.27nevcairielwill run for a few hours now
10:01.54Arrowmasterluckly ill be going to bed in an hour
10:02.13Arrowmasterand right now im going to go do brewfest ram racing so ill be unavailable
10:02.29Groktardevours Arrowmaster's flesh
10:03.44vhaarrArrowmaster: +AceLibrary:HasInstance("Dewdrop-2.0") ?
10:03.53Arrowmasteroh yeah
10:04.00Arrowmasterforgot about that
10:04.15Arrowmasteri would remove it but i think its too late
10:04.29vhaarrtoo late for what?
10:04.40vhaarrand why is
10:04.41vhaarrif (event == "CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL" or event == "CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL_LIST") and select(9, ...):find("^AceComm") then
10:04.42vhaarrbetter than
10:04.46vhaarrif (event == "CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL" or event == "CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL_LIST") and _G.arg9:find("^AceComm") then
10:04.55Arrowmasterbecause arg9 doesnt exist
10:05.07vhaarrthe globals are removed in 3.0?
10:05.24Arrowmasterthought they were
10:05.31Arrowmasterblues said they would be on forums
10:05.42vhaarrthat will break a lot of addons
10:05.47nevcairielI think they still are there, but blue said they could be removed at some point
10:05.56nevcairielits a major patch, expect breakage =P
10:06.14vhaarrwhoever said that probably spoke too soon, I doubt they'll remove them
10:06.16vhaarrbut okay
10:06.27nevcairielthey dont care about addon compatibility
10:06.29nevcairielsrsly
10:06.32Arrowmasterfuck i think my commit is too late
10:06.39CIA-6103arrowmaster * r82171 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: Ace2: remove a WotLK hack thats not needed anymore
10:06.39Arrowmasterits slow on the sending part
10:06.43vhaarrArrowmaster: in any case, most of the files you changed were just changing the SVN URL at the top
10:07.04Arrowmasterthat was something i did when i started that branch
10:07.16vhaarri.e. AceEvent, AceHook, AceLibrary, AceLocale-2.2, AceModuleCore-2.2, AceOO
10:07.20vhaarrwell, it's something you shouldn't have done
10:07.28Arrowmasteryeah probably not
10:07.31nevcairieldoesnt matter at all =P
10:07.35Arrowmastersince its going to be wrong again
10:07.51nevcairielAceLibrary was changed, every addon using any of those is going to repack anyway
10:07.54nevcairielso whatever
10:08.20vhaarrahem
10:08.29vhaarrAceLibrary changed unecessarily, that's the point nev
10:08.51Arrowmasterswore there was a localization there or something
10:09.13Arrowmasteroh nvm
10:09.13vhaarrperhaps next time you will svn diff BEFORE you commit, and read through it
10:09.15[SW]Dodgelol, flying while drunken is fun
10:09.20Arrowmasterit was a big diff
10:09.34nevcairielvhaarr is just being an ass again, it still doesnt matter =P
10:09.50vhaarrit's not a big diff at all, link it to me next time and I'll read it for you ten
10:09.53vhaarrthen*
10:09.55vhaarrI'm always an ass :P
10:10.01Arrowmasteryeah come on atleast let me blow up the server before it gets taken offline
10:11.01Arrowmasteryay the last commit did make it in
10:11.02Fisker-grabs vhaarr
10:12.17vhaarrmakes coffee
10:12.50Fisker-inserts penis
10:13.29[SW]DodgeFisker-: penis = the coin of the next generation? :D
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10:14.19sacarascthe coin of generation sex
10:14.36Fisker-http://i33.tinypic.com/293h75v.jpg <-i liek btw
10:14.44Fisker-That was only physical memory btw
10:14.53Fisker-Used up 4GB or so of virtual memory
10:14.54Fisker->:3
10:15.08nevcairielstupid defrag tool
10:15.21[SW]Dodgelol
10:15.52Arrowmasterfucking hell
10:15.53Arrowmasterwtf
10:17.09Fisker-I was upgrading it to the newest version btw :P
10:17.24Fisker-And when it finished my system almost froze up because the program got confused >:E
10:18.20Arrowmasterwtf this was fucking tested on live before!
10:18.26Arrowmasterbut now its fucking erroring
10:18.30Fisker->:3
10:18.31Fisker-!111
10:18.42Fisker-only ~24 hours until i get my new monitor >:O
10:18.57Cheadsnice, which one?
10:19.09Arrowmastercool i broke AceComm even though i didnt
10:20.04Fisker-Samsung T220 >:3
10:20.06Arrowmasterthat or something is fucked up with my ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler
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10:25.49CIA-6103arrowmaster * r82173 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua:
10:25.52CIA-61Ace2:
10:25.54CIA-61-fix AceComm's ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler hook
10:25.56CIA-61-whoever told me they 'tested' this change on live and it worked fine can DIAF
10:26.19CheadsFisker- I have their old 226BW, really like it =)
10:26.43Arrowmasteryes im going to hell today because kaelten is going to kill me
10:26.51Arrowmasterafter i kill his server
10:27.23XinhuanArrowmaster, what color does a warlock pet show up as in omen?
10:27.33Arrowmasterhow should i know
10:27.38Xinhuanyou play a warlock
10:27.39nevcairielIt was faster then i expected, though
10:27.41nevcairielthe rebuild
10:27.44Arrowmastermy pet is always dead
10:27.57Xinhuanu use one when you solo i'm sure
10:27.58nevcairielI bet they show as warriors
10:28.08Arrowmasteractually i dont
10:28.12Cheadsas warlock pet is always dead or phase shifted =)
10:28.26Xinhuanwell, what color should i show them as?
10:28.35nevcairielwarriors? :P
10:28.39Cheadsyeah
10:28.39Arrowmasterjust check their class
10:28.45Arrowmastermage pally or warrior
10:28.52Xinhuanthat makes class filtering a pain in the ass
10:29.04Xinhuanbecause if i hide all warriors, that hides all hunter pets too
10:29.17Kuja^its a pally for the felguard at least
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10:29.36Arrowmasteractually i take that back, no warlock pet is a warrior
10:29.42Arrowmastersince they have mana
10:29.47Arrowmasterimp is mage reset are pally
10:29.52Arrowmasterrest
10:30.34Cheadsxin then pets should have their own special color maybe?
10:30.37Xinhuanso... hmm how should i do this
10:30.53Xinhuanif i do that then i need to keep a separate table of pets ~_~
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10:30.59Arrowmaster2008-09-29 10:27:25 Created /var/www/JostleLib/JostleLib-r59177.2.zip
10:31.06Cheadsyeah, not nice
10:31.08Xinhuanand what color would pets be?
10:31.20Arrowmasterwhat makes you think im also responsibe for JostleLib-r59177.1.zip
10:31.32Zeksiein X-Perl, i colour the pets same colour as owner
10:31.33Cheadsa mix of purple and green (warlock + hunter) hehe
10:32.05Xinhuani have an idea, where i should just remove the pet filter
10:32.17Zeksieradical
10:32.28Kuja^bah who changed bugsack to delete errors on a normal click, not alt+click anymore? :o
10:32.34Xinhuanwell having it means i really have to keep track of which GUIDs are pets
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10:32.52Xinhuanwhich isn't difficult, just annoying
10:32.53ZeksieKuja^: Running vista? recently alt-tabbed? prolly find Alt is faked down
10:33.06nevcairielXinhuan: you could just store them as a fake class
10:33.07Kuja^im on linux
10:33.17Zeksiemaybe similar thing tho :)
10:33.18nevcairielyou have to store class info somewhere, no?
10:33.32Xinhuani have 3 options atm - A) store it as whatever UnitClass() returns
10:33.37Kuja^never happened to me, lets try it again
10:33.38XinhuanB) store it as same class as owner
10:33.44XinhuanC) store it as "PET"
10:33.48nevcairielI would do C
10:33.55Arrowmasterjackpot!
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10:34.00[SW]Dodgevotes for C
10:34.03Arrowmasterwho can find something more outdated
10:34.05nevcairiellol Arrowmaster
10:34.10Xinhuanthen i'll need a pet color
10:34.13[SW]Dodgelol nice Arrowmaster!
10:34.19Cheadsdark brown?
10:34.23nevcairiel2008-09-29 10:33:39 Created /var/www/DontBugMe/DontBugMe-r26541.1051.zip
10:34.24Arrowmasterwith a higher lib repack count
10:34.28nevcairielArrowmaster ^..
10:34.41Xinhuandoes inserting a color into RAID_CLASS_COLORS taint it?
10:34.45nevcairielXinhuan: ya
10:34.46Arrowmasteryes
10:34.48Zeksieprobably
10:34.50Xinhuandrat
10:35.40Zeksie!seen cncfanatics
10:36.31Kuja^2008-09-29 10:25:46 Created /var/www/VitalWatch/VitalWatch-r25379.1132.zip
10:36.32Kuja^^
10:36.48Arrowmasterstill doesnt beat 1385
10:37.20Kuja^oh i thought you meant the rev of the addon itself
10:37.32Arrowmasteroh i know theres lower
10:37.38Xinhuanlocal c = class == "PET" and pet_color or RAID_CLASS_COLORS[class] or default_color
10:37.45Xinhuandoes that line look gay to you?
10:37.52nevcairiel1385 doesnt actually mean 1385 repacks
10:37.52Arrowmasterjust wait and youll find one of tekkubs addons still on the svn at rev 11k or so
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10:38.02nevcairielthere was a time when it used bigger numbers
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10:38.42Xinhuanhmm i need a RGB values for a pet color :)
10:38.53nevcairieljust use warrior for now =P
10:39.02Xinhuannormalized between 0 and 1
10:39.14Xinhuanwell atm my water elemental is classed as a MAGE
10:39.34CIA-6103tifi * r82178 10RamRacingRecords/ (RamRacingRecords.lua RamRacingRecords.xml):
10:39.34CIA-61RamRacingRecords:
10:39.34CIA-61- Added speedometer. (Speed derived from player coordinates.)
10:39.34CIA-61- Added speed buff indicator. (Canter, Gallop etc.)
10:39.37nevcairielhow does a color look thats merged warrior+palading+mage
10:39.51Xinhuanyou mean averaged?
10:39.51Tifiugly
10:40.00Xinhuan["MAGE"] = { r = 0.41, g = 0.8, b = 0.94 },
10:40.04Xinhuan["PALADIN"] = { r = 0.96, g = 0.55, b = 0.73 },
10:40.07Xinhuan["WARRIOR"] = { r = 0.78, g = 0.61, b = 0.43 },
10:40.14Zeksie#40fc75
10:40.19Zeksieoff-green
10:40.22nevcairielheh
10:41.01orionshockhehe, what happens when you merge a mage, pally, and warrior? - a hunter :D
10:41.12Zeksiedruid
10:41.26Xinhuanaveraging those 3 colors of RGB values
10:41.37Xinhuanyou get R = 0.71, G = 0.65 and B = 0.70
10:41.45nevcairielsome grey-ish
10:41.46Xinhuanwhich ... looks like gray
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10:42.19Tifiyou could also make it like a flag purple-brown-pink
10:42.21nevcairielSirow: what guideframe in bartender? o.o
10:42.44Siroweh when you unlock bars
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10:43.05Arrowmasterthe colored overlays?
10:43.05Sirowafaik it was called guideFrame in bartenders code
10:43.09Sirowjep
10:43.27nevcairielI'm pretty sure i dont call it guideFrame, but hookay
10:44.39nevcairielI think its done with repacking
10:44.52Cheadsr = 0,83, g = 0,98, b = 0,74   some light-ugly-green thing
10:45.05nevcairielnow publishing the files and rebuilding the xmls
10:47.44CIA-6103Sirow * r82180 10LibAvionOptions-2.0/CallbackHandler-1.0/ (. CallbackHandler-1.0.lua CallbackHandler-1.0.xml):
10:47.44CIA-61LibAvionOptions-2.0:
10:47.44CIA-61<PROTECTED>
10:49.53Fisker-nevcairiel stole his code
10:49.55Fisker-nananana
10:54.22Arrowmasternevcairiel: incase i forget, one of us should make sure theres a libstub and callbackhandler-1.0 project later today so we can point to those for externals (and not ace3)
10:54.58[SW]Dodge~framexml
10:54.59purlGet the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/
10:55.21nevcairielArrowmaster: LibStub will be there already, i'll create a CBH
10:55.54nevcairielwanted to get that out of the Ace3 dir for ages
10:56.09Arrowmasteryeah i know libstub will be, but i think trunk isnt suitable for using as an external currently due to the test cases
10:56.29nevcairielI can exclude them in pkgmeta
10:56.39Arrowmasteroh yeah
10:56.50nevcairielat least i think i can
10:56.54Arrowmasteryou can
10:56.54nevcairielgotta ask ckk about that
10:57.02nevcairielI know i can for packaging
10:57.06nevcairielnot sure for externals
10:57.21Arrowmasteractually yeah i doubt externals will look at that
10:58.09Arrowmasterdid externals ever get the ability to specifiy a revision or refspec?
10:58.15nevcairielnot yet
10:58.17nevcairielbut its planned
10:58.21Arrowmasterfail
10:58.38Arrowmasteratleast with git refspec covers everything
10:58.48nevcairielwould be nice to be able to use git branches
10:58.51nevcairielsvn can do that already
10:59.04Arrowmasterhg too i think
10:59.16Arrowmasteror maybe not
10:59.21Arrowmastercant remember
10:59.24Arrowmasterdont know much about hg
10:59.48Arrowmasterback to ram racing, need to get them done so i have time in 12 hours to do them again before raid
11:01.26Tifiso your reset timer is 12h?
11:02.15CIA-6103whitetooth * r82181 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: StatLogicLib: AutoDoc update
11:02.43nevcairielIn any case Arrowmaster, people should've used the 1.0 tag of LibStub anyway
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11:03.08nevcairielI'll write that on the LibStub page
11:03.22Arrowmasteri know, a lot didnt though
11:03.39Arrowmastertag night not be copied
11:03.45nevcairielIt wont
11:03.48nevcairielbut i can recreate it
11:04.16Fisker-slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout
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11:16.09CIA-6103dodge * r82182 10CoolDownButtons/ (14 files in 4 dirs):
11:16.09CIA-61CoolDownButtons:
11:16.09CIA-61- Updated locales (using Babelfish.lua)
11:16.09CIA-61- reimplemented old Post-to-Chat feature, check Announcement Settings :)
11:16.09CIA-61- added custom Icons for the new Warrior Spellgroups
11:17.42CIA-6103dodge * r82183 10CoolDownButtons/Icons/ (5 files): CoolDownButtons: ooops... here are the icons :D'
11:19.33Fisker-nevcairiel
11:19.42Fisker-remember somewhere in the area what the bandwitdh costs were each month?
11:19.54nevcairieldunno the costs
11:20.00nevcairieli only know it was 60TB or so
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11:23.14[SW]DodgeElgren: check the update :)
11:32.47Elgrenweeeeeeee
11:32.56Elgren!!
11:33.05Elgrensweet dude"
11:33.20Xinhuaninteresting that the wowace forums has almost no excitement about the move ;p
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11:56.41MysticalOSholy jebus, i just udpated all addons and now EVERY ace addon is broken i had to disable everything because they are ALL sending erros to chat frame cause of an ace dependancy acting up.
11:57.25Arrowmastertry updating again
11:58.26nevcairielblame Arrowmaster
11:59.24MysticalOSsomeone broke the acecomm-2.0? heh
12:00.31Arrowmasteri told you to update again
12:00.39MysticalOSi just did, testing now
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12:02.31MysticalOSchew much better
12:02.34MysticalOSwhew*
12:02.56JY`swipe target limit removal makes me think of a problem
12:02.59JY`5 rage on crit
12:03.06JY`10+ targets
12:03.11JY`20/30% crit
12:03.18JY`infinite rage ?
12:03.42Fisker-i thought that was already the case >:3
12:04.05JY`mmh yes :>
12:04.20JY`you could spam swipe without problem
12:04.54Arrowmasteri wouldnt be supprised if they changed that talent so i didnt work on swipe
12:05.00JY`swipe cost was ~5-10 rage
12:05.09JY`yes i wouldnt
12:05.11JY`or
12:05.17JY`limit 1x +5 rage / swipe
12:05.40Arrowmasteror just so something like limit it to once per second
12:05.49JY`before bear nerf at the beggining of tbc lvl 70
12:05.59Arrowmasterbear is a 2.0 attack speed right?
12:06.02JY`i was aoeing manaforges
12:06.13JY`yes as i remember
12:06.28JY`i didnt plya feral since the great feral nerf :p
12:06.32JY`played*
12:06.37Arrowmasteryeah so even with haste gear something like a 1 proc per second limit wouldnt clip autoattacks
12:06.50JY`^^
12:06.57JY`that is ugly
12:07.08JY`like wf internal cd
12:07.10JY`is ugly
12:16.36CIA-6103whitetooth * r82184 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua:
12:16.38CIA-61StatLogicLib:
12:16.40CIA-61- WotLK: Updated CritPerAgi values from build 8982
12:16.42CIA-61- Updated documentation
12:16.46CIA-6103whitetooth * r82185 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster.lua: RatingBuster: Use the new StatLogic API
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12:21.10Daemonaanyone here using tomtom on beta?
12:22.52sbrogues dont have totems Daemona!! :/
12:22.57sbbut no... :)
12:23.01sbnot yet
12:23.01Daemonal2r
12:23.06sboh tomtom
12:23.16sbffs, too much code reading + bejeweled
12:23.18sbi'm blind :)
12:23.46Daemonai get the arrow, but i cant set waypoints, and if QuestHelper sets waypoints i see them, but the arrow always points on my local position
12:24.13kenlyricwherever you go, there you are
12:24.18Daemona-.-
12:24.46Daemonausing latest tomtom from wowi wotlk branch that is ... anyone know another source? i saw a google project some time back, but no downloads there
12:25.16Cryectsb bet if Daemona used colored gems you would understand
12:25.25sbyup, think so
12:25.41Daemona{circle}tomtom{triangle}
12:26.13sbahh {circle}tomtom, not {square}totems
12:26.36Daemona{skull}!!!
12:27.51Daemonauh hmm erhm
12:28.02Daemonagoes and downloads experimental version of atrolabe.
12:28.05Daemonaskuddles off.
12:30.22Cryect<JY`> swipe target limit removal makes me think of a problem
12:30.31Cryectif you have "infinite" targets
12:30.45Cryectyou have "infinite" rage anyways if they are actually all hitting you
12:30.45Daemonawho cares
12:30.55kenlyricbut it's swipe
12:30.57Daemonaat 6 targets and 50% crit ...
12:31.01kenlyricit's not like it's going to kill them fast
12:31.09Daemonayou are allready rage neutral swiping
12:31.27kenlyricI can nearly do it with 3 targets at level 50
12:31.39Cryectreally a druid has a hard enough time burning rage with multiple targets alreayd >_>
12:31.40nevcairiel50% crit is kinda alot for a bear, too
12:31.55nevcairielin defense gear, anyway
12:32.01kenlyricwith 4 or 5 things hitting me I have no trouble at all
12:32.13nevcairielwould be fun soloing low lvl instances
12:32.14kenlyricbut it would be nice if it could hit more targets so they don't beat on the priest.
12:32.17nevcairielyou finally get enough rage =P
12:32.17JY`yes
12:32.21JY`low lvl instance
12:32.32kenlyricyou can solo low level instances with thorns
12:32.40nevcairieltrue
12:32.45JY`swipe still does respectable damage
12:33.06kenlyricit's worse than holy nova
12:33.22JY`the cost is lower
12:33.26sb<3 holy nova!
12:34.06CryectOH holy novaing priests on vael! :-p
12:34.16JY`before swipe nerf, i used to farm manaforge in bear
12:34.32kenlyricthe safest way to be on Vael
12:35.14JY`pbaoe heals are rare :p
12:35.45kenlyricwas it true vael only cast BA on his top 10 threat targets, or was that just one of those idiot deep breath myths?
12:36.07Cryectuh I hope not
12:36.13Cryectbut maybe?
12:36.14Josh_Borkeidiot deep breath myths
12:36.21Cryecthealers got it all the time
12:36.25kenlyricwell sure
12:36.27Cryectso I hope there were 10 dps higher
12:36.28kenlyrichealers were top 10
12:36.37kenlyricpriests
12:36.40Cryectthere wasn't that much actually healing to do on Vael
12:36.41kenlyricprayer of healing
12:36.45kenlyricmash
12:36.52JY`Cryect: hu ?
12:36.57JY`fire aoe
12:36.59nevcairieleven prayer of healing shouldnt have out-aggroed DPSers
12:37.01Cryectprayer of healing wasn't going to outthreat 10 people
12:37.08CryectJY` I know
12:37.11kenlyricyes it was
12:37.11Cryectcheck the damage it did
12:37.14Cryectit was pretty low
12:37.20kenlyricI don't think you understand how bad most dps is
12:37.27JY`mmh it was not
12:37.35Cryect300 damage every 2 seconds with no fire resistance
12:37.42kenlyricit was usually rogues then priests
12:38.20JY`our priests used to shield a druid
12:38.20Cryectthats 375 unmodified threat per second
12:38.21Cryectand thats assuming no resistance
12:38.35kenlyricx5
12:38.37Josh_Borketimes 5!
12:38.39CryectNo
12:38.39Josh_Borkenumbnuts
12:38.40Cryectthats with x5
12:38.50JY`you underestimate priests aggro power
12:38.55Josh_Borke150*5 = 750!
12:39.11Cryect5*300 damage/2 seconds/2 healing per threat
12:39.32kenlyricall I know is when I picked up holy nova i never got BA again
12:39.34kenlyricrandom luck!
12:39.49kenlyricalso, it was more fun!
12:40.10nevcairieleven i got BA as a tank healer
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12:40.30JY`as a druid : instant HT at pull on a 10% life tank is the way to go
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12:41.19JY`:)
12:41.27CryectAlso when were first doing vael we were using like 150 fire resistance on people so thats anther 37.5% threat reduction so our priests shouldn't have been that high on threat :-p
12:41.42nevcairielI still think that first-10 is a myth
12:41.43Cryectnow I will say something like bloodboil priests generate tons of threat if they are CoH
12:41.52Cryectagreed nevcairiel
12:41.59nevcairielbloodboil is much more dps on the raid, though
12:42.03Cryectcorrect
12:42.04JY`i used to get BA sometimes
12:42.06Cryectthats the difference
12:42.33JY`with lower geared raids, dps is low and healing is high
12:42.51JY`with higher geared ones, healing is easier, dps much higher
12:43.09CryectI would say with higher geared raids healing was often harder :-p
12:43.13kenlyricit was the first time since BRD that you used your max rank heal
12:43.20Cryectbecause people would remove fire resist knowing you could heal them easily
12:43.27JY`:)
12:43.38JY`that's a point
12:44.32Cryectheh I've known some people who didn't think people wore fire resist on vael besides like onyxia's cape since they started raiding like a year after their guild had Vael on farm
12:44.47nevcairielI hate on those people
12:44.59nevcairielmost of them get some smart-ass attitude because their guild is so good etc
12:45.06JY`my fire resist gear used to be my main healing gear
12:45.31JY`(100 fr)
12:45.48JY`because of mc salamander pants
12:45.56JY`i replaced these with opera event pants
12:46.01JY`:>
12:46.15Cryectheh kept those for a while
12:46.29CryectI had those for a long time as well till replaced them with T2 I believed
12:46.37JY`i got those nearly after beggining raiding at 60
12:46.44JY`T2 never dropped for me :)
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12:46.57JY`T2 pants
12:47.08JY`but we used to have 2xT2 chest on nef for a long time
12:47.14kenlyricmy first guild it was paladins
12:47.18kenlyricmy second guild it was rogues
12:47.34kenlyricevery guild had a class who never got t2 pants so they always fucking made you go to that shitty instance
12:47.42Cryecthehe
12:47.45JY`btw i do not have ragnaros achievement i think :(
12:47.48nevcairielI had full T2, and it looked so awesome :)
12:47.55Cryectglad they have not done anything so foolish anymore
12:48.07kenlyricyeah
12:48.13kenlyric*cough*DST*cough*
12:48.13nevcairielI "lost" all my classic-gear
12:48.22kenlyricnevcairiel: banned?
12:48.29nevcairielno i beleted it
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12:48.37JY`my bank is full
12:48.41nevcairielso i have to redo the dungeons for achievements
12:48.42nevcairiel;)
12:48.51JY`i would never delete T2
12:48.54CryectI still have full T3 but yeah T2 and T1 are long gone
12:48.54JY`i think
12:49.00kenlyric40 man pugs at 80
12:49.05kenlyricgoing to be so much fun
12:49.06nevcairielPlus, i never got any item from cthun =(
12:49.14JY`neither me :(
12:49.15nevcairieldidnt drop anything for me
12:49.20FastiI got tentacle!
12:49.30kenlyricI want to se 40 priest holy nova through MC
12:49.31JY`still had my heart of the wild cloack at 70 :p
12:49.40JY`cloak
12:49.51JY`i let cthun one go for other ppl :p
12:50.15JY`but aq40 is a good instance to do at any level
12:50.21JY`it scale much better with level
12:50.30JY`(twins & cthun)
12:50.38nevcairielcthun is probably still too hard for a random pug =P
12:50.41JY`:)
12:50.46JY`yes i think so
12:50.48Pucmeldark glare ... pug down
12:50.49kenlyricany fight that's not a dps race will scale better
12:51.04Daemonahaha
12:51.05JY`anyway, twins are harder than cthun
12:51.12JY`cthun still is a dps race
12:51.14nevcairieltwins are hard?
12:51.14Daemonai agree on cthun being too hard for level 70s
12:51.24Daemonawe had the same priest run 2 times into the glare
12:51.28nevcairielheh
12:51.29Pucmel1st phase of cthun is not puggable ... not on my server :)
12:51.30Daemonaby following it
12:51.31Daemona!!!
12:51.34JY`dps must be quick on tentacles
12:51.38Daemonaexcuse: i have runspeed on my boots
12:51.50Fisker-god have mercy etc.
12:51.51nevcairielhahah
12:52.02nevcairielso run a bigger circle on the outer ring =P
12:52.05Daemona^^
12:52.09JY`twins without good tank rotation is impossible because of healing
12:52.11Pucmeland 10+ppl beam can be nasty too
12:52.20JY`or a big outdps of healing
12:52.30dafiredid anyone try if the 2 days on brewfest food is game time or real time time ? :)
12:52.35nevcairieldidnt you just need one tank and one warlock tank?
12:52.46Pucmeltank rotation on twins ? wat ?
12:52.50Daemonawell last time we were bored on a weekend and did aq40... we killed him before his first weakened phase i think
12:52.52Daemona:X
12:52.52JY`tank switching
12:53.01Fisker-Tifi you emo bastard!
12:53.04dafireI'd like to keep some food for the archievements .9
12:53.06nevcairielDaemona: how is that even possible?
12:53.21Pucmelcthun cant be damaged unless weakened
12:53.27Pucmelso blablabla more
12:53.27Pucmel:)
12:53.28nevcairielyou do like 1 dmg per attack
12:53.32Daemonain his
12:53.34Daemonadooh
12:53.36Zhinjiohave scrollframes changes in wotlk? something's whacked now with the one I'm trying to get working
12:53.38Daemonabefore is stupid
12:53.39Daemona-.-
12:53.41Zhinjio(I suspect gremlins)
12:53.41nevcairielah yeah
12:53.56nevcairielwe got him to like 50% in one weakend on 60
12:54.00nevcairiel;)
12:54.41nevcairielone dps can probably solo both tentacles
12:54.48nevcairielin the stomache
12:55.11Pucmelanyway i think you can ignore boombugs on twins .. and tentacles are more like soloable on cthun at 70-80
12:56.37nevcairieltoo bad we wont get kiljaeden
12:58.08TifiFisker-, huh? O.o
12:59.26Zhinjiois there somewhere I can look that already has the "Blizzard Interface Data" ripped out for wotlk?
13:00.05ZhinjioI know there was someplace that had that automated for regular builds, but I forgot where
13:00.07nevcairiel[SW]Dodge: you uploaded cooldownbuttons to CF?
13:00.20Zhinjioor there was some download or tool you could run to generate it hyourself
13:00.23Megalon~wdn
13:00.23purlWorld of Warcraft Developer Network, a website where you can see the changes made to WoW's interface files between versions and also where you can download said versions. http://wdn.wowinterface.com/
13:00.26[SW]Dodgenevcairiel: yes
13:00.33nevcairiel"Possibly dangerous files: CooldownButtons/Locales/babel.bat, CooldownButtons/Locales/lua.exe"
13:00.34Zhinjiodanke
13:00.34nevcairieltry again
13:00.36Megalonnp
13:00.39[SW]Dodgeah damn
13:00.54dafireZhinjio: it's ofered by blizzard so you can extract it yourself
13:02.26sbnevcairiel: we wont get muru :/
13:02.36nevcairielI still hope we do
13:02.38nevcairielbut i doubt it
13:03.00sbtoo many cancelled raids
13:03.42Xinhuansame here sb
13:04.56[SW]Dodgenevcairiel: reuploaded, sorry for the exe/bat files, stubid TortoiseSVN copied them too while exporting for wowi/cf zip -.-
13:05.43Zhinjiowell, shit.
13:05.48Zhinjiothey did change scrollframes.
13:05.58Fisker-Tifi your racing stuff
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13:10.14Zhinjiohas anyone already made changes tot heir scrollframes to get them to work in wotlk that can point me to some code? I can see the differences, but I'm not sure how its going to affect how I call the scrollframe update routine
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13:13.13Zhinjiolet me be more specific: http://ace.pastey.net/96950
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13:13.32Zhinjiogiven the above pastey, what should my new calling function look like?
13:15.40Xinhuancheck bankitems ;p
13:15.44Zhinjiook
13:15.50Zhinjiobranch?
13:16.23Fisker-FINALLY
13:16.30Fisker-kodo mount for me
13:17.32Stanzillagz
13:17.32Josh_Borkegrats
13:17.38Stanzillagot it on first day :D
13:18.28Fisker-Only had to go through 4 or 5 rams + 3 other kodos to get one
13:18.30SunTsuAnd I hated that event on the first day. Currently still only few PUGs happen for heroics - everybody is totally wild about the event
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13:34.21[SW]Dodgedid the migration start yet or still everyone sleeping? :D
13:34.43Maldiviasleep... what is that?
13:34.51[SW]Dodge:D
13:35.26nevcairielThe migration is starting now, the SVN should be marked readonly already or will be in a few moments
13:35.28Fisker-Kaelten my friend
13:35.30Fisker-i lol'd
13:35.42[SW]Dodgeyay :D
13:36.09Fisker-Just wrote on our guild forums that you were going to be migrating data to the new wowace which would make WAU inoperable
13:36.19Fisker-"Greedy bastards" -Random guildmember
13:36.20Fisker-:D
13:38.48Fisker-Btw with the migration happening that means we'll actually see some sane suggestions when Curse scans our addons right? :P
13:39.08nevcairielyou wont get anything sane Fisker-
13:39.27Fisker-no me :(
13:39.59Fisker-i'm so kodoious
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13:40.48ZhinjioXinhuan: thank you.
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13:47.59sbnevcairiel: how long is the transaction going to take? 10 minutes, 10 hours, 10 days?
13:48.31Josh_Borkesb: 10 months
13:48.38nevcairiela few hours, i guess
13:49.19sbJosh_Borke: more like over 9000 months... :/
13:49.21Fisker-your mom
13:49.31sbyep Fisker-, we know :p
13:49.48[SW]Dodgethey start now and will be finished soon(tm)
13:49.59sbah btw finished soon
13:50.45sbnew screenshots http://www.duke4.net/news.php
13:51.36Pucmelcome get some !
13:52.28TifiFisker-, there's nothing emo about ram racing!
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13:57.58Fisker-indeed there is
13:58.01Fisker-i can't get that icon removed
13:58.04Fisker-and it makes no sense either
14:01.51Tifi1 sec
14:04.09CIA-6103tifi * r82186 10RamRacingRecords/ (RamRacingRecords.lua RamRacingRecords.xml): RamRacingRecords: Bugfix: Initialize GUI as hidden.
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14:05.36TifiFisker-, does it at least make sense to you while racing?
14:05.59*** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> WowAce Upgrade Status: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=15106 | http://beta.wowace.com/announcements/beta-phase-commencing-updated-date/ | http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org
14:06.06[SW]DodgeTifi: what is the addon for? :O
14:06.21Fisker-i can check tomorrow Tifi :P
14:06.28TifixD
14:06.31Fisker-my penis level is over 9000
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14:06.58Tifi[SW]Dodge, http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=15090.0
14:08.06Tifigot tired of scrolling through the chat frame to count my deliveries
14:08.48[SW]Dodge:D
14:09.23[SW]Dodgethe race has 18hrs reset timer?
14:09.34Tifiwell for me yes
14:09.44Tifi+-5s
14:09.51Tifiso im pretty sure
14:10.01Fisker-supposed to be 12 hours :(
14:10.04Tifibut on wowwiki ppl insist that it's 12h for them
14:10.05[SW]Dodgehow do you know the reset timer?
14:10.37Tifii checked after 18h-5s and 18h+5s :>
14:10.50Tifion two different chars
14:10.59[SW]Dodgeah lol ^^
14:11.01[SW]Dodge:D
14:11.24Fisker-Tifi officially it's supposed to be 12 hours
14:11.53[SW]Dodgei bet german/eu realms are bugged! :E
14:12.30Tifiyea could be a bug
14:12.51Tifilocalization error :>
14:13.01[SW]Dodgehrhr :D
14:13.36[SW]Dodgethen should it be 12hrs with the enGB client (deDE has some bad translations imo^^)
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14:22.27ShaneSvellergrats to the curseforge folks on your new data center :-) is that in any relation to the newace stuff?
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14:27.45ckknighthey all
14:28.22ShaneSvellermorning
14:28.48ElkanoAckis :) Collectionator is missing AceLocale data ^^
14:29.28AckisWorkElkano: yup :) it's still alpha
14:29.32AckisWorkno gui at all yet
14:29.40ElkanoI know ^^
14:29.46ckknightso we're doing the wowace transition today
14:29.57ckknighteveryone excited?
14:29.59AckisWorkbut it will be localized once I get some things worked out with it
14:30.08AckisWorkckknight: I showered with the gf this morning, that got me excited
14:30.17ckknightcool beans
14:31.04AckisWorkwhat time is it going live? ie: should i do any work on the ace svn this morning?
14:31.22ckknightyou can do work on the ace svn until you can no longer access the ace svn.
14:31.36Elkanockknight, when coding FuBar 2, did you mess around with the FontString object?
14:31.57ckknightnot really...
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14:32.27[SW]Dodgeckknight: excited? ya, waiting the whole last week for that day :D
14:32.37ckknightyea
14:32.40ckknightdoing the repo import now
14:32.42dafirewill the wowace forum go today, too ? or will it stay a while in its current form ?
14:32.45ckknightgonna start the project import
14:32.53ckknightdafire: we'll do that at the end, but yes, that's transitioning
14:32.55Elkanohmmm... when I have FuBar enabled it wraps FontStrings if they contain an icon, that's why I ask. disableing FuBar solves that (and I still use old Ace2 FuBar ^^)
14:33.11dafireand will the wiki with the api stuff stay acessible for now ? .9
14:34.02ckknightdafire: the wiki _will_ stay accessible
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14:34.14dafirephew .)
14:34.15ckknightthough I think in a read-only format
14:34.34AckisWorkEVERYONE PANIC!!! WAU WON'T WORK AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
14:34.44sb:)
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14:34.49Stanzilla~fail AckisWork
14:34.50purlAckisWork, you Fail!
14:35.07AckisWorkAHHHHHHHHH
14:35.09AckisWorklol
14:35.15ckknighto noes!
14:35.16dafireDON'T PANIC
14:35.18sbah that reminds me of some feature i need in curse client :/
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14:35.26Fisker-btw ckknight you are greedy bastards :(
14:35.27sb"show changelog on update"
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14:35.35dafirejust don't press the button :)
14:35.36ckknighthow's that, Fisker-?
14:35.48AckisWorkwhy so serious Fisker-?
14:35.50Fisker-Made a post on the guildforums that WAU would be shutting down today
14:36.21Fisker-One reply was "Greedy bastards" (Because you disabled auto update without premium) and the other was "Time to look for new addons then" :D
14:36.22KaeltenWhy so serious AckisWork?
14:36.29Fisker-i'm always srs
14:36.44Pucmelauto update is always evil
14:36.51KaeltenFisker-: I hate to say this but I'm loosing patience with the "How dare you charge for this" posts
14:36.53Pucmelborking things .... viruses ... etc
14:36.54ShaneSvellerhttp://davidking12.deviantart.com/art/Why-so-serial-92358606
14:37.26Fisker-Kaelten i tried to tell them about the 30-60TB bandwitdh a month thing :P
14:37.32ShaneSvellerKaelten: I support that decision completely, bandwidth is a moneysink
14:37.38Fisker-"lolol unlimited bandwitdh"
14:37.41Fisker-Then i gave up
14:37.46AckisWorkI'd post on my guild forums but I don't have a guild aahahahahahah
14:37.58Fisker-owned AckisWork
14:38.01AckisWorkKaelten: get back to the paper work!
14:38.04Fisker-is it because you are so stupidious?
14:38.10AckisWorkno
14:38.12AckisWork:(
14:38.13KaeltenThey need to understand its a hard reality.  If we had tons of money in the bank it'd be a different story
14:38.15Fisker-:)
14:38.20AckisWorkI'm just so good no one wants me
14:38.22Kaeltenbtw guys I'm about to shut down the repo for write acces
14:38.26Kaeltencommit if you got em
14:38.42Stanzilla[16:35:18] <sb> "show changelog on update" < yup! I agree
14:39.04kenlyricOMG TO THE WAU!!!!!!
14:39.14Fisker-When the move have been made will the client have a better time finding the right addons and update using the latest one from wowace? :P
14:39.50AckisWorkFisker-: I made a post on the realm forums!!!!!
14:39.52AckisWorkhttp://www.illidrama.com/forums/showthread.php?p=556288#post556288 http://www.illidrama.com/forums/showthread.php?p=556288#post556288 http://www.illidrama.com/forums/showthread.php?p=556288#post556288 http://www.illidrama.com/forums/showthread.php?p=556288#post556288 http://www.illidrama.com/forums/showthread.php?p=556288#post556288
14:39.55ckknightyes, Fisker-
14:39.55AckisWorkHAH
14:39.57Fisker-oh gawd
14:40.05Fisker-you ctrl+v too much AckisWork
14:40.17AckisWorkI use CTRL/SHIFT Insert
14:40.18Fisker-Says you're in cox AckisWork
14:40.22Fisker-you fial
14:40.24Fisker-damni
14:40.26Fisker-damnint
14:40.27AckisWorkI AM COX
14:40.29Fisker-i hate you
14:40.30kenlyricJWU will work
14:40.45AckisWorkI love you Fisker-
14:40.50kenlyricyou'll just have to add each mod manually to the non wowace addons page
14:40.54kenlyricand then slit your wrists for trying
14:40.55AckisWorkahh
14:41.14AckisWorkKaelten: Upgrade done yet? ;)
14:41.15Josh_Borkecan we kick AckisWork and Fisker-?  they are hurting my brain
14:41.22AckisWorklol
14:41.45Josh_Borkeand i have a high pain threshold for the stupid...
14:41.54AckisWorkwe aren't stupid, just silly
14:42.11Josh_Borkes/stupid/silly/
14:42.18Josh_Borkehappy now?
14:42.27AckisWorkmmmhmmm
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14:43.16Kaeltenbtw Ackis, going to have some work for you soon
14:43.35AckisWorkKaelten: sounds good
14:43.51Fisker-i'm gonna nuke your fucking mini city to oblivion
14:43.54Fisker-i hope you die in hell
14:44.04Kaeltenoblivion is a fun game
14:44.07Kaeltenyou can diaf too!
14:44.16Kaeltenwe're going to need to start assigning and merging projects here in the next little bit
14:44.29kenlyricoblivion is a fun game if you enjoy spreadsheets
14:44.31AckisWorkFisker-: http://ackis.myminicity.com/ind :)
14:44.36Fisker-no
14:44.38AckisWorkyah I figured
14:44.39ckknightKaelten: I'm thinking maybe we should add a view for moderators to assign ownership easily
14:44.48ckknightcurrently it's a 3-step process
14:44.50Fisker-i already clicked it cause i clicked that "My many many mods" but then clicked the link underneath >:E
14:44.55Kaelten2 step?
14:45.00ckknight3-step.
14:45.00AckisWorkFisker-: lol you fail
14:45.03Kaeltenadd author, assign owner?
14:45.12ckknight(3) remove wowaceSVN
14:45.15Kaeltenheh
14:45.45ckknightokay, clean slate: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/
14:46.22Fisker-So what Tuller is putting his stuff up on wowace after the merge or what? :P
14:47.25sbmh, need haste addons on wowace/curseforge, i think thats the only addone i use that is only on wowi
14:47.56ShaneSvellertalk to haste then :-P he uses git so you might be able to talk him into adding cf as a mirror
14:48.03Fisker-i need my new monitor >:3
14:48.10sbyup ShaneSveller
14:48.41ShaneSvelleror even just get permission to mirror them for him with the project stating it is an unofficial mirror
14:48.49ShaneSvellercronjob that bad boy
14:50.01AckisWorkKaelten: I think I destroyed the wowace status thread...
14:50.29dafirefirst casualties :)
14:51.05kenlyrictekkub and tuller and clad, oh my!
14:51.19kenlyricthose are the non-conformists!
14:51.51Xinhuanwork ackis
14:51.54sbokay, haste doesnt want to publish his stuff on cf/wowace :p
14:51.54Xinhuani mean
14:51.57Xinhuanrofl ackis
14:52.16syerenhaste is a baller.
14:52.56Xinhuanget it all up and working quick :)
14:53.13Xinhuani'll be the first to make a new project or branch to test stuff ;p
14:53.30Xinhuanspecifically i want to commit omen3 v0.1 somewhere
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14:53.54AckisWorkI don't get it Xinhuan
14:54.09dafireXinhuan: start on github and push to wowace later )
14:54.19Xinhuantoo troublesome
14:54.25Xinhuanhow about i just start on wowace
14:54.53ckknight(P.S. if you make a project on beta.wowace.com, it'll work)
14:55.01ShaneSvellerwhy would that be troublesome, xinhuan?
14:55.04Xinhuanyeah but you said its going to be wiped
14:55.12ckknightXinhuan: no
14:55.13ckknightit won't be
14:55.15ckknightI did the wipe
14:55.17ckknightwipe's done
14:55.23Xinhuanoh
14:55.25ckknightif you notice, I didn't wipe projects that people made manually
14:55.34Xinhuanno i didn't notice heh
14:55.44ckknighthttp://beta.wowace.com/projects/
14:55.56dafireckknight: the poll has no choice for apple key .p
14:56.10Xinhuanthat's a lot of "tests"
14:56.35Xinhuanwhat happens if i create a project called "Omen"
14:56.42ckknightdafire: hehe
14:56.43VulcanusNobody likes mac
14:56.44nevcairielyou shouldve wiped those ckknight :P
14:56.46Xinhuanand you later try to import omen from wowace
14:56.55ckknightnevcairiel: *shrug*
14:56.55Fisker-then i'll have sex with you Xinhuan >:3
14:57.05ckknightnevcairiel: we could still delete em
14:57.09dafireckknight: too bad the new shadows won't work fully on mac :(
14:57.20nevcairielat least those directly labeld test
14:57.43Xinhuan"This name will be used in URLs and on-disk paths. It will also act as the unique identifier for your project. Currently this name is not changable."
14:57.44Fisker-macs are like the empire in star wars
14:57.46Fisker-except worse
14:57.53Xinhuansounds bad if i named it wrong, or want to rename it
14:58.01nevcairielso dont typo
14:58.07nevcairielmoderators can change it
14:58.12Stanzillathat will be hard for AckisWork
14:58.17Stanzilladrycoded addon names :(
14:58.21Xinhuanwhat happens if i create a project called "Omen"?
14:58.25dafireXinhuan: you can change the on disk path with the .pkgmeta file
14:58.36nevcairieli rename it and slap you
14:58.36ShaneSvellerdafire: they don't work fully on my windows box either, with SLI 8800GTs
14:58.40Xinhuanunfortunately, i don't know what a .pkgmeta is
14:58.56nevcairielthe name you choose there has no relevance whatsoever
14:58.58nevcairielits just display
14:59.04nevcairielin urls
14:59.09Xinhuandisplay is important!
14:59.10dafireShaneSveller: yes.. but blizzard will probably fix it... on mac they have to wait until apple adds needed opengl extensions
14:59.18Fisker-heh
14:59.26Fisker-if i were Kenco i'd SEO klhtm to Omen then
14:59.27Fisker->:3
14:59.33AckisWork~lart Stanzilla
14:59.33purlnukes Stanzilla with a single large nuke
14:59.54Stanzilla!
15:00.14AckisWorkHA
15:00.56dafireXinhuan: with pkgmeta file you can control some things of the packager: http://www.curseforge.com/knowledge-base/pkgmeta-file/
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15:02.08Fisker-touches Funkeh` in his pants
15:02.16ckknightokay, two projects left on wowace: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/
15:02.51Fisker-fun
15:03.09[SW]Dodgeckknight: hu? http://beta.wowace.com/projects/testa/
15:03.13Stanzillanow delete Fisker-
15:03.15Funkeh`hi
15:03.27Fisker-nah Stanzilla i got undelete
15:03.36Stanzillahi Funkeh`
15:03.39StanzillaFisker-: hax
15:04.07Fisker-i'm so happy since i got my brewfest kodo
15:04.15AckisWorkyou got one?
15:04.18AckisWork~hate Fisker-
15:04.18purlHey ackiswork, ,,|,
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15:08.26Tifihow can i check if the player has a certain quest? i know the quest id
15:09.16Fisker-tomorrow is teh day >:3
15:09.22Fisker-i will end AckisWork
15:09.43AckisWorkFisker-: Marry me?
15:09.50Fisker-sure
15:09.54Fisker-same result anyways
15:10.02AckisWorkk
15:10.25Tificlad|away, ping
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15:14.45ulic~api IsUnitOnQuest
15:14.46purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_IsUnitOnQuest
15:15.04Seerahck or nev: is there a trick to changing your avatar on beta.wowace.com? :P
15:15.34nevcairielmy wowace -> upload avatar?
15:16.07nevcairielhttp://beta.wowace.com/home/upload-profile-image/
15:16.07Seerahalways comes back with "This field is required"
15:16.07nevcairielhm
15:16.10nevcairieli didnt exactly try it
15:16.28Seerahon both ff3 and ie (though I haven't tried on ie in a couple weeks)
15:16.44nevcairielblame Kaelten
15:16.58dafirethats game breaking... stop the transition
15:16.59Tifiulic, doesnt accept quest ids, only quest log ids
15:17.00dafire.)
15:18.30Kaeltenthats weird
15:18.40KaeltenSeerah: try doing it on CF and see if it works?
15:19.44Repo10ouf-ithato: 03ssveller * 81550aaa894c layout.lua: (2 revisions total)
15:19.45RepoDummy layout courtesy of p3lim
15:19.45RepoInitial commit
15:20.01nevcairielwhere did that come from
15:20.07Funkeh`indeed
15:20.22SeerahKaelten: aye, works there
15:20.31Kaeltenthats not just weird
15:20.37Kaeltenthats *very weird*
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15:20.50*** mode/#wowace [+v purl] by Funkeh`
15:20.51Josh_Borkenevcairiel: see!  i told you!  different backends and frontends for new wowace and curseforge!
15:20.51nevcairielpeople should not be able to use repos until the project is not approved =P
15:22.11ShaneSvellerthat's interesting and nifty
15:22.15SeerahJosh_Borke: but the new avvie is showing on wowace....
15:22.17ShaneSvellerbut apparently also alarming
15:22.39ShaneSvellerit seems i should get out of the habit of pushing to remotes often, at least to wowace, heh
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15:23.17ShaneSvellerso as not to flood irc
15:23.26ShaneSvellerso you guys don't want us to be able to push to repos before the project is authed?
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15:23.56nevcairielMan all those projects in the approval queue on wowace should provide longer descriptions <.<
15:24.06ckknightso mark em as changes required.
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15:24.12nevcairielya i do
15:24.19Funkeh`holy fuck
15:24.22Funkeh`my inbox
15:24.24Seerahthey're probably just used to the old site
15:24.24Funkeh`my poor inbox
15:24.28Seerahhaha
15:24.30Stanzilla^^
15:24.39Seerahhuggles Funky
15:24.44Funkeh`it's destroyed by aproval emails
15:24.46KaeltenFunkeh`: ?
15:25.02Seerahyou guys get emails for that? ;)  we don't :P
15:25.09Funkeh`it's new
15:25.18Funkeh`at least, wasn't there before
15:25.19ShaneSvellerman, even the beta is quite snappy, shane likey
15:26.23nevcairielI dont get mails about wowace projects yet
15:26.25nevcairielonly curseforge
15:26.27ShaneSvellerhttp://beta.wowace.com/knowledge-base/what-to-do-after-creating-a-project/ this page still refers to CurseForge under the "Uploading files" header, is that intentional acceptable?
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15:26.41ShaneSvellerintentional/acceptable*
15:26.55ckknightokay all, I'm gonna do the project import now. This will likely be the last project import, this is the real one.
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15:27.40Funkeh`ShaneSveller, first the upload, then the tweaks
15:28.06ShaneSvellerFunkeh`: alrighty
15:28.57ShaneSvellerany word on multiple SSH keys ala GitHub?
15:30.20KaeltenShaneSveller: its on our roadmap
15:30.26ShaneSvellergreat
15:30.45Kaeltenwe have a lot of things on our roadmap though so exact dates are hard to specify
15:31.21Kaeltenthe sites going to change a lot between here and the end of the year though :)
15:31.33ShaneSvellerI wonder if they open-sourced their version of git-daemon, done in erlang for high concurrency. might be a boon to you guys, it had some extra work done for better SSH key support too
15:31.42ckknightShaneSveller: 2-3 weeks is likely. I'll probably do it when I get back from my brother's wedding and Kaelten is gone to Blizzcon
15:31.43ShaneSveller(they being github)
15:32.06Kaelteninteresting
15:32.45clad|awayTifi: pong
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15:34.40Pucmelw
15:34.43Pucmelbah
15:35.23sbckknight: is there some svn/git/hg web frontend?
15:35.30nevcairielnot yet, planned
15:35.31ckknightnot yet
15:35.44sbso no more source browsing from work.. *sigh* :P
15:36.02Funkeh`do work? :P
15:36.10sbuhm... ;)
15:39.00sbckknight: and.. what about something like that wowace google group? mailing list, webpage with all commits, dont know... ;o
15:39.23sbpage where you can see all commits "live" (non-irc!)
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15:40.10ckknightwe plan for something like it
15:40.20ckknightthat's gonna be Kaelten's baby, he has some good ideas for it
15:40.53Kaeltenhrm?
15:40.59ckknightKaelten: repo viewer
15:41.08AckisWorkis Kaelten's baby.
15:41.11Funkeh`well, commit history browser
15:41.18Funkeh`I guess you mean like an all in one?
15:41.24Funkeh`from every repo?
15:41.34ckknighthey all, moderators now have the ability on projects marked with the author "wowaceSVN" to "Reassign Project Owner". This makes reassigning simple and easy.
15:41.40sbyup Funkeh`, see http://groups.google.com/group/wowace
15:42.28nevcairielnow do a quick fix to close reports
15:42.30nevcairiel<.<
15:42.42ckknightclose reports?
15:43.02nevcairielhttp://beta.wowace.com/admin/reports/47-project-testa/
15:43.07nevcairielmisses all navigation :P
15:43.12KaeltenFunkeh`: yes it'll be a universal one.
15:43.16Kaeltennevcairiel: :P
15:43.22nevcairielhaving to append /edit/ to the url is kinda lame
15:44.03ckknightthat's Kaelten's doing
15:44.05ckknight:-p
15:44.09Fisker-IMMA NOTIFYING THE ADMINISTRATORS
15:44.45nevcairielalso, 500: http://beta.wowace.com/admin/reports/?filter_status=+
15:45.04nevcairieltrying to filter for type=all
15:47.32ulicgood to hear, seems like LittleWigs still got assigned to wowaceSVN for some reason, thought I had the toc updated, but I'll worry about that later.
15:47.50Funkeh`ill fix it for ya
15:47.51AckisWorkulic: will be easy to change once it's complete :)
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15:48.07ckknightfixed, nevcairiel
15:48.35ckknightplease, feel free to change people's ownership now
15:48.40ckknightthere is no harm at this point
15:48.49ckknightit'll stick
15:49.38AckisWorkwhat about merging?
15:49.43AckisWorkbetween wowace/CF?
15:51.08ckknightno issue there
15:51.19ckknightand if you want to change sites, tell Kaelten or myself
15:52.41Xinhuancan you reassign Routes, FuBar_Routes and Cartographer_Routes to me ;p
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15:52.50Xinhuanapparently the import didn't parse my X-Email right
15:53.00Xinhuansince there are 2 author emails in it
15:53.40SunTsuWhich reminds me that sometimes Routes+Cartographer has sticking waypoints, mostly happens in SMV
15:53.58nevcairielckknight: is merging safe yet?
15:54.08ckknightnevcairiel: probably, no issues have arisen
15:54.15nevcairielit 500'ed
15:54.17nevcairiel;)
15:54.19ckknightfucking a.
15:54.31nevcairieltried merging bartender3 and wowace-bartender3
15:54.50nevcairielonly taking bartender3 data, not the wowace-bartender3 stuff
15:55.25ckknightfixed, nevcairiel
15:55.54nevcairielyour new re-assign owner doesnt show up in activity log
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15:56.04ckknightdamn, you're right, nevcairiel
15:57.02ckknightfixed, nevcairiel
15:59.43nevcairielckknight: merging still fell of its mount =(
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16:02.26nevcairielckknight: btw, why not that transfer ownership for all projects? <.<
16:04.36ckknightfixed, nevcairiel
16:04.47nevcairielagain fell of
16:04.47ckknightum, cause it was only for wowaceSVN thing
16:05.13ckknightI think that's cause your project failed to merge last time...
16:05.28ckknightyea, it is
16:06.30nevcairielcan you fix that? :D
16:07.04ckknightyea, hang on
16:07.19ckknightokay
16:07.29KriLL3is there a way to ensure that if I pounce without at target it targets enemy players first? I'm sick and tired of opening on their pets/mobs near etc
16:07.31ckknightshould be fixed
16:07.40nevcairielagain =(
16:08.12dafireKriLL3: no.. probably not
16:08.37KriLL3:(
16:09.09ckknightfound the bug, nevcairiel
16:09.58SunTsuKriLL3: Hm, just target them?
16:10.55KriLL3SunTsu: that's not as easy as you might think in pvp
16:11.02ckknightokay, nevcairiel
16:11.10sbmhh - how to get svn+ssh working with tortoise?
16:11.24Seerahkaelten: there are warhammer forums on the wowace site?
16:11.32Fisker-when can we upgrade to premium btw? >:3
16:11.33sbi get a putty error telling me "bad service request ssh-connection"
16:11.45nevcairielckknight: still no luck
16:11.47SunTsuKriLL3: That may be, I don't PvP as long as I can avoid it
16:11.51Seerahclicking on "New Posts" from the new wowace forums, shows me threads from a warhammer forum
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16:12.10ckknightsb: http://www.curseforge.com/knowledge-base/how-to-use-tortoise-svn-over-ssh-in-312-easy-steps/
16:12.14Fastiis it something in blizzards ui that makes "bar1" "stuck" on bartender/dominos/bongos? ><
16:12.29Fastiworks fine for 99% of the time :)
16:12.34ckknightnevcairiel: oh hell, my bad (swapped if statements
16:12.36ckknight)
16:12.41sbckknight: thats notthe point, already did everything :p
16:12.53sb"not the point" even
16:12.53Fisker-damn ckknight
16:12.56Fisker-no way i'm reading that
16:13.01Fisker-312 easy steps?
16:13.01Fisker-Madness
16:13.07Fastineed to log in and out of the game, /reloadui doesn't work for stuckness
16:13.53ckknightnevcairiel: try now
16:14.02ckknightFisker-: 3 1/2
16:14.04nevcairielit worked
16:14.10nevcairielBUT, it placed the final project on CF
16:14.10Fisker-i know ckknight :P
16:14.15nevcairielthere should be a box to choose that <.<
16:14.16Fisker-Great SEO though
16:14.18Fisker-:D
16:14.36ckknightnevcairiel: choose what?
16:14.45nevcairielwhere the merged project ends up
16:14.51ckknightwhich site, you mean?
16:14.53nevcairielya
16:15.05nevcairielalso, move bartender3 to wowace =P
16:15.10ckknightwell, it goes to which one you chose the short name for.
16:15.15nevcairielbah
16:15.24nevcairielall merging will favor the CF short name
16:15.26ckknightI'll add an option, though
16:16.21sbmhh
16:16.29sbckknight: No supported authentication methods available!?!
16:16.38nevcairielsb: run pageant
16:16.42sbi already do
16:16.49nevcairieladd your key in it :P
16:16.53sbit is :)
16:21.12sbchanged from DSA to RSA - same error...
16:21.16NivFreakdo we have a beta log parser that's working yet?
16:22.15Gnarfoznot that much different from 2.4?
16:22.23NivFreakWWS doesn't work afaik
16:22.28NivFreakI'll try statscl
16:22.40Gnarfozrecount worked without changes for ages
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16:22.57NivFreakthat's not a log parser ;P
16:22.57Xinhuanthat's cos elsia added all the new beta stuff to the live client
16:23.13GnarfozXinhuan: uhm yeah, not what I'm talking about.
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16:24.42Gnarfozwtb updated Carrier build :<
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16:27.30NivFreakso I scripted a dps rotation on a premade last night and went to bed
16:27.42NivFreak3xDL,1xLT rotation on a lock
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16:27.57NivFreak3307 applications of DL, 539 misses
16:28.50Primerpulls out his WoW Acronym handbook...
16:29.13Primerbrowses to the D's...
16:29.26GaurongDrain Life
16:29.30Gaurongi think?
16:29.35Primerthanks
16:29.41KriLL3the IWIN button of warlocks
16:29.54KriLL3a couple of dots, fear, drain life, rinse and repeat
16:29.59KriLL3target dead, you full hp
16:30.10Primerfor pve, sure
16:30.18KriLL3pvp
16:30.45NivFreakthe idea was to find a rotation that I could leaved autoamted for 6 hours while I slept ;P
16:30.48Primerdrain life is pretty ineffective against high resilience targets
16:30.59NivFreakautomated
16:31.03Primerespecially if the target is pounding on you
16:31.11KriLL3Primer: I got 400+ res and it still hurts like ****
16:31.23KriLL3they're not since you can permfear
16:31.29Primerit ticks for around 200 for me on high resil targets
16:31.38Primerit ticks for 500 on mobs
16:31.41Primerfor me, of course
16:31.45NivFreakthe problem was
16:31.52NivFreakI got enough resists on drain life
16:32.01NivFreakthat I was OOM and without enough health to tap this morning
16:32.05NivFreakwhen I checked on it
16:32.27Primerwhat were you targeting?
16:32.37NivFreakheroic target dummy
16:32.39NivFreaklvl 83 mob
16:32.46Primerahh cool
16:33.11Primer3/3 in suppression?
16:33.23NivFreakzero talent points
16:33.26NivFreak0/0/0
16:33.29Primero
16:33.29Primerk
16:33.37NivFreakzero hit from gear
16:33.44NivFreakI wanted a clean test
16:33.46Primerso you're just trying to get a base line measurement?
16:33.51NivFreakyes
16:33.58NivFreakno one has any data on hit chance
16:34.01NivFreakfrom what I've seen
16:34.09NivFreakso I figured I'd let it run for a few hours
16:34.16NivFreakand see what I came up with
16:34.27Primerit doesn't seem that bad then
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16:44.53Pkekyo|Interface\AddOns\FuBar\FuBar_Panel.lua:282: attempt to call method 'DispatchEvent' (a nil value) <--- how to fix?
16:45.01p3limdafire: why do you wanna split up that function?
16:45.24p3limdafire: it doesnt have any disadvantages but those haste said
16:46.04dafirep3lim: instead of using thousends of if's to determine the unit you could create different functions
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16:46.37p3limlike i said in my reply: 1 function for each unit?
16:47.04Industrial18:45 < p3lim> dafire: why do you wanna split up that function?
16:47.04Industrial18:45 < p3lim> dafire: it doesnt have any disadvantages but those haste said
16:47.08Industrialgod damn p3lim
16:47.11Industrialif you have nothing to say
16:47.15Industrialdont say anything
16:47.25noble8_have nothing nice* to say?
16:47.39Industrialnah, I'm talking content.
16:47.47dafire1 function for each class of unit... so 1 for target, one for player... and then from those call a function that does what all need and then do stuff only needed by the frame
16:48.18p3limok
16:48.23p3limwas just wondering
16:48.59HjalteIs there a stand-alone addon that will notify me when my name, or any word I've specified, is said in a channel on wow?
16:48.59p3limIndustrial: im asking the guy a question, relax
16:49.27noble8_yep chatter
16:49.52dafirei just didn't understand why many ouf layouts have a 300 function and try do everything in that function :)
16:50.00Repo10callbackhandler: 03Nevcairiel * r2 / (7 files in 3 directories):
16:50.01RepoImport of CallbackHandler-1.0 as standalone project, no longer confined to the locked space inside Ace3
16:50.06HjalteChatter is a whole bunch of things :) I think I might have found an addon that fits my description though, "ChatHighlighter".
16:50.09dafire+lines
16:50.29noble8_yep thats the module of i
16:50.30noble8_it
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16:54.24Repo10callbackhandler: 03Nevcairiel * r3 CallbackHandler-1.0/CallbackHandler-1.0.lua: Set svn properties
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16:56.06Xinhuanboo
16:56.14Xinhuanmy post count isn't carried over to the new wowace forums!
16:56.42KaeltenXinhuan: we haven't done the forum import yet :P
16:56.48Xinhuanoh :)
16:57.53Repo10callbackhandler: 03Nevcairiel 041.0.3 * r4 : Tag Version 3 of CallbackHandler-1.0
16:58.28KillmoreHi, I dont understand.. I get this error since this morning [2008/09/29 12:49:52-1406-x1]: AceOO-2.0-82169 (Ace2):734: AceComm-2.0: AceComm-2.0 requires AceEvent-2.0
16:58.28KillmoreAceComm-2.0-82173 (Ace2):2339: in main chunk
16:58.38Killmoreand I have AceEvent-2.0
17:03.51Xinhuanit means you need to reupdate youe ace2
17:03.57Killmoreok
17:03.59NivFreakPrimer: it's 16%, so it just disproves the 9% theory
17:05.43PrimerNivFreak: surprise!
17:05.45Repo10ouf-ithato: 03ssveller * 863df172749a / (3 files in 1 directory): (2 revisions total)
17:05.46RepoAdded in textures, margins/padding, coloring, castbar still DOA
17:05.47RepoBasic bars in place, castbar nonfunctional
17:06.02Primer11-13-2008, the day the real beta comes out
17:06.24ShaneSvellerRepo-bot is slick, ckknight
17:07.18Aiiexcept when it dies
17:07.19Aii:P
17:07.42ShaneSvellerI'm just worried about spamming up the channel with my no-talent hacked up lua work lol
17:08.20ulicthat's what /ignore is for
17:08.27ShaneSvellerFair enough.
17:08.33Fisker-hugs nevcairiel
17:09.16ulicI like seeing, I've found several addons that I've found useful because I saw someone commit and it peaked my interest.
17:09.32digmousethe new ace is up?
17:09.41ShaneSvellerulic: me too
17:09.44sbuh Kaelten
17:10.00ulicdigmouse: I think it's still comming up
17:10.28digmouseI still dont quite get used to the new system
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17:15.41Adirelledigmouse: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=15106.0
17:17.30sbKaelten: curse client integration wednesday? not today?
17:17.43digmouseI used the system on curseforge and just dont get used to it, I'm a translator, so I have to do works on lots of mod, no only just 1 or 2, still looing into it.
17:18.04digmouses/looing/looking/
17:18.08Fisker-wednesday sb
17:18.31sbFisker-: you suck :/
17:18.53Fisker-why?
17:19.21AdirelleI guess we'll have to reinstall all addons through the curse client
17:19.33Fisker-it'll handle that itself?
17:19.39KriLL3why oh why doesn't anyone in wsg actually realize the objective of the battleground? they all just zerg middle and die, they don't take flags, they don't cover flag carriers and they don't ever try to kill the enemy flag carrier, unless he happens to run straight into em... and perhaps not even then
17:19.39Adirellemaybe
17:19.50AdirelleI think it should
17:19.57Fisker-It does
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17:23.03EthanCentauraihasn't been this excited since the last full moon.
17:23.37DashkalIgnore the flag carrier, he often has healers.  Just get HKs forget marks!
17:23.53DashkalBonus honor is for <insert opposing faction here>
17:24.33EthanCentauraiway to kill the moment Dashkal :P
17:25.02DashkalI'm a lil bitter about wsg myself :p  I like capture the flag type games, but that one is just painful :(
17:25.21EthanCentaurairoll a Horde :)
17:25.21Industrialwhere did oRA go on the wowace svn?
17:25.22ulicSo the curse client will check versions on both curse & wowace?  What if the addon exists on both?
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17:25.36DashkalEthanCentaurai: no friends hordeside.  Really what it comes down to.  Play with the people I know
17:25.39Industrial[Ammo]: ping
17:25.55EthanCentauraiulic: it will probably send you the most up-to-date release :)
17:26.41Dashkalulic: It cannot exist on both.  Project short names are unique
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17:28.05Funkeh`ulic, Is it just ulic on curse?
17:29.30ulicyep
17:29.42ulicthat yep was to Funkeh`
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17:30.09Funkeh`I added you to lw
17:30.09Pkekyo|Interface\AddOns\FuBar\FuBar_Panel.lua:282: attempt to call method 'DispatchEvent' (a nil value) <--- how to fix?
17:30.17uliccool, thank you.
17:31.53DashkalFunkeh`: Could you assign me grid-status-party please?
17:32.02Cheadsuhm wasn't files.wowace.com supposed to be removed?
17:32.07EthanCentauraiPkekyo|: please give more information, i.e. when the error occurs, does it happen with certain mods enabled/disabled etc... it's a good thing us coder guys are psychic :)
17:32.16EthanCentaurainot :P
17:32.27ulicoh I see, so I have two projects now, wowace-little-wigs and little-wigs, one on curse and one on wowace, with two different short names.  Is that gonna make a mess?
17:32.42Dashkalulic: only if you install both at once
17:32.52Funkeh`Dashkal, D
17:32.55Dashkaldanke
17:32.58EthanCentauraiCheads: files.wowace.com will probably be removed in the near future, after the migration :)
17:33.01ulichehe, so the answer is, it could screw up clueless users :)
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17:33.43CheadsI thought that was happening now, the migration?
17:33.43NivFreakfiles.wowace.com shouldn't be removed until we have a mac curse client that works
17:33.43Dashkalulic: yes.  Might wanna nuke one or the other since they both syndicate to curse anyway
17:33.55NivFreakwhich means I should try what kolie gave me ;)
17:34.01Cheadsok Niv
17:34.22EthanCentauraiis still waiting for his iMac to arrive... damn you Apple! :(
17:34.23Cheadsso.. it a not to distant future =)
17:34.33nevcairielNivFreak: files will stick around, however nolonger updated =P
17:34.42nevcairiel(for now)
17:35.04ShaneSvellerEthanCentaurai: welcome to the flock, in advance :-)
17:35.10EthanCentauraixD
17:35.14NivFreaknevcairiel: I assume it's still getting updated for nwo
17:35.16NivFreaknow
17:35.23nevcairielno its not
17:35.25nevcairielits not possible
17:35.36nevcairieltotally different servers
17:35.36Josh_Borkeimpossiblee!
17:35.40nevcairieldifferent scripts
17:36.05EthanCentauraiit's only been like... 3 weeks since I placed my order :S
17:36.15p3limis there an event to register AFK?
17:36.30EthanCentauraip3lim: PLAYER_FLAGS_CHANGED I think :)
17:36.40p3limthanks EthanCentaurai
17:36.46ShaneSvelleranyone know how to block by IP in colloquoy?
17:37.30KriLL3imagine this scenario, I got the flag in wsg, I run towards out base, the idiot hunter behind me in my team can't keep up on foot, so what does he do? aspect of the pack, warrior charges me, I switch to bearform, I'm dazed time and time again...
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17:37.45KriLL3finally saw the damn "buff" and removed it, stupid hunter
17:39.32Dashkalthere, gsp all setup
17:39.39DashkalThough the screenshot looks bad scaled...
17:39.52ShaneSvelleris there any way to make aloft not take up over 1MB of memory? unless i start nuking textures, fonts, and maybe modules from the folder
17:40.30QuaicheHas anyone started work on making IceHUD work in the Beta?
17:41.15DashkalQuaiche: yes.  Until the most recent patch it was working fine.  They may have fixed it since then as well
17:41.33QuaicheOkay, it went wonky on my yesterday. I'll take a look.
17:41.36ShaneSvellerDashkal: gsp?
17:41.43QuaicheDo you know if anyone has added a Runes module?
17:41.46DashkalGrid indicators for party leaders http://beta.wowace.com/projects/grid-status-party/
17:41.49QuaicheWas thinking about doing that
17:41.55DashkalQuaiche: there was one, but I found it beyond ugly
17:41.58ShaneSvellerDashkal: ah, sorry
17:42.03Quaichelol
17:42.19ShaneSvellerQuaiche: Runewatch isn't too bad but a little gaudy to some. works great though.
17:42.30nevcairielDashkal: all setup is longer descriptiong, imho =P
17:42.44nevcairiel-g
17:42.53Dashkalnevcairiel: The entire mod is a little blue dot in the corner of the grid box.  Not much to say :p
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17:43.13QuaicheFor now was just gonna write a hack in my private layout code that moves it where I want it
17:43.18DashkalBut I'll copy the readme into the description box
17:43.33ShaneSvellerQuaiche: that's what I do after seeing that Tekkub did it that way
17:43.38Quaiche:)
17:43.42nevcairielAll new projects that came with a one-liner description i send back to changing that
17:43.54QuaicheDid tek do it in his tekLayout code?
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17:44.28Fisker-tickles a nevcairiel
17:44.32ShaneSvellerQuaiche: nah, his oUF layout on github
17:44.33Dashkalnevcairiel: when will SVN be available?
17:44.39nevcairielwhen the import is done
17:44.41Quaicheah
17:44.42nevcairieli dont have a status on that
17:45.44Dashkalthere, and working on a better default image for the icon
17:45.50NivFreaknevcairiel: so you're saying that, files stopped updating today?
17:45.57nevcairielyes
17:45.58NivFreakwow
17:46.00ShaneSvellerwha? GC said they're removing the target limit on swipe
17:46.01NivFreakthat's fucking retarded
17:46.02NivFreakgood job
17:46.10DashkalShaneSveller: *bouncebouncebouncebounce*
17:46.12NivFreakso basically
17:46.15DashkalFerals can AoE now
17:46.21NivFreakupdates are broken for anyone without a curse client
17:46.24ShaneSvellerDashkal: srsly, /cheer
17:46.31NivFreakand there isn't a working mac client
17:46.40NivFreakKaelten: I thought you said this wasn't going to happen
17:46.42nevcairielyou can download updates from the pages
17:46.51NivFreaknevcairiel: boy, I never thought of that
17:46.55KaeltenNivFreak: hrm?
17:46.56KriLL3the curse client doesn't work on PCs either
17:46.58Kaeltensb: yes wednesday
17:47.14NivFreakKaelten: we have no released mac client, and you guys just broke all other updaters from working
17:47.16nevcairielNivFreak: the world will end for a week without updates!
17:47.20NivFreakyes
17:47.22Koliehmm?
17:47.30Funkeh`NivFreak, What?
17:47.36Funkeh`I think you're jumping the gun
17:47.39Funkeh`the updater is working for me
17:47.40sbKaelten: why not today, after the transition!?
17:47.41ShaneSvellerDashkal: if i understand it, that just means we have an x degree arc where it hits all mobs out to 5m or whatever the range is
17:47.45KolieKriLL3? why not.
17:47.56NivFreakFunkeh`: mac updater?
17:48.02DashkalShaneSveller: yep, which is fine by me.  I didn't want concecrate or thunder clap, just _something_ that would hit more than three
17:48.06KriLL3Kolie: it's bugged
17:48.18KriLL3it only crashes, doesn't actually update anything
17:48.19nevcairielthe .13 worked fine for me yesterday
17:48.26Fisker-i'm emo for you Funkeh`
17:48.34KolieKriLL3: when does it crash, what are you doing, and what version.
17:48.38DashkalI'd really prefer not to be tanking something that's dazing me anyway...
17:48.46Kaeltensb: because we need to clean up the projects on wowace, merge and assign in what not in order to stop a lot of crap on curse from being messed up
17:48.49NivFreakNeoTron: 16% resist chance from what I can tell
17:49.05Funkeh`NivFreak, I just booted up jwu
17:49.07Funkeh`works fine
17:49.15NivFreakFunkeh`: there are no updates going to files.wowace.com
17:49.19Funkeh`yes
17:49.22Funkeh`so?
17:49.29NivFreakso that means, we can't get updates anymore
17:49.33NivFreakwithout the curse client
17:49.38NivFreakand there isn't one for mac yet
17:49.39Funkeh`there are no commits for files to get mate
17:49.43Funkeh`since svn is locked
17:49.47KolieNivFreak: there isnt a released one.
17:49.50Fisker-you can download them from the project site
17:49.56KaeltenNivFreak: he's working on it right now and a minimal action list of 5 items left
17:50.05Funkeh`files.wowace.com has the latest files, use whatever updater you want
17:50.11nevcairielYou probably didnt realize, the time of daily updated addons is over. The clients will only shove you updates if the dev releases that.
17:50.15Funkeh`there is nothing newer because svn is locked
17:50.34Kolienevcairiel: How are daily updates over?
17:50.41KaeltenKolie: trust me
17:50.50Kaeltencompared to what we've had, its going to be much more infrequent
17:51.09KolieYea not on commits, I know that.
17:51.18NivFreakKolie: so you're saying we're past a burn-your-mac-down point now?
17:51.36nevcairielI havent seen a "Get me alpha" option in the updater, so you only get Releases (and maybe Betas)
17:51.41KaeltenNivFreak: almost :)
17:51.42nevcairieland those dont happen every 10 minutes
17:51.46Kaeltennevcairiel: that option is forth coming
17:51.53kenlyricisn't there still an svn of some kind?
17:51.54nevcairielKaelten: dont ruin my fun!
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17:51.57Josh_Borkenot always right is a terrible thing
17:51.57Kolienevcairiel: Right now yeop, but its scheduled for after I get mac working
17:51.59nevcairielkenlyric: yes there is
17:52.01Kaeltennevcairiel: lol
17:52.03KolieWhich is prio #0 right now.
17:52.03kenlyricyou can fly by the seat of your pants in the repo!
17:52.36kenlyricI've been prepping myself, only running jwu once a week
17:52.40kenlyricbreakin the habit!
17:52.55ShaneSvelleri haven't updated anything in my Live UI since I got my beta key, lol
17:53.07KolieReally, all I need to do is code in an updater, and we can start a mac beta.
17:53.27ShaneSvellerand WAU sometimes did odd things to my beta addons, so i was doing those by hand once in a while if something broke
17:53.35Dashkalnevcairiel: there, _now_ it's all ready for svn hookup
17:53.55nevcairielnice :)
17:54.06Kaeltendon't go merging yet !
17:54.07Kaelten:P
17:54.18nevcairielI already did because ckk said its all good =(
17:54.24kenlyricI still don't know what I'm going to do. probably just do curse client and then manual updates through favorite emails for wowi addons
17:54.30Fisker-I did updates several times a day before >:3
17:54.37Fisker-now i almost only do it each time i raid
17:54.37DashkalKaelten: murr?  I'm quite content to wait for it.  I just wanted the page looking nice
17:54.42Koliekenlyric: bug wowui for a psyn feed.
17:54.47KaeltenDashkal: ?
17:54.58Kaeltenckknight: don't we ened to wait for repos to be imported?
17:54.59DashkalKaelten: I thought that was aimed at me.  nevermind
17:55.05KaeltenDashkal: yer a monkey
17:55.05kenlyricjust bug the bad authors to switch to curse!
17:55.08Josh_BorkeKaelten: why disable fisheye?
17:55.09ckknightKaelten: for what?
17:55.14Josh_Borkecouldn't you just disable the crawler?
17:55.16DashkalKaelten: code monkey get up get coffee / code monkey go to job
17:55.17kenlyrictekkub, tuller, and clad OH MY
17:55.25ckknightyea
17:55.29Kaeltenckknight: merging
17:55.30kenlyriccode monkey stab you in the face with poo
17:55.34ckknightnobody else merge, I wasn't thinking when I directed nevcairiel to
17:55.36ckknightbut he did help debug it
17:55.40KaeltenJosh_Borke: server load, I have some stuff running that needs the disk io
17:55.58KaeltenDashkal: go code monkey go!
17:55.59sylvanaarhow does modified cieck work again?
17:56.46kenlyricis there any decent way to make curse client like two different wow install folders?
17:56.53Fisker-Kaelten can go make damn client self :(
17:57.05Fisker-oh wait i wasn't supposed to say that
17:57.16KaeltenFisker-: huh? speak english man not what ever that was
17:57.34Fisker-It was from the codemonkey song duh
17:57.35Fisker->:E
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17:57.47Kaeltenlol
17:58.11ShaneSvellerkenlyric: like live and beta? i hope so
17:58.29kenlyriclike live and live
17:58.32sylvanaarthey are all predifned constants "CHATLINK", etc, that act like the name of a secure button?
17:58.41kenlyricbut live and beta works too
17:59.02ShaneSvellerkenlyric: why have two installs of live?
17:59.12kenlyricdual boxing on one computer
17:59.57sbor live + beta + ptr :p
17:59.59kenlyricit's about 8 gigs so I don't have to type my usernames in when I login
18:00.28ShaneSvellerlol
18:00.53kenlyricI used to also have fewer addons on the slave
18:01.01kenlyricbut then the slave became the master, so they're both the same
18:01.19Fisker-damn
18:01.20kenlyricthe windows used to be different sizes, but I don't do that anymore, either
18:01.28Fisker-why does warhammer look so plain?
18:01.28kenlyricI guess can just stop.
18:01.29Funkeh`has anyone tried the new messenger beta
18:01.33kenlyricFisker-: because it tries to look real
18:01.37Fisker-oh yeah
18:01.42Fisker-Funkeh` yeah
18:02.03Funkeh`did it install over 8.x ?
18:02.12Fisker-I already had a previous 9.x beta
18:02.15Fisker-but it installed over it
18:02.25Funkeh`uh, over the beta or live
18:02.34Fisker-It doesn't keep a live
18:02.43Funkeh`okay
18:04.42Dashkalhrm, while I respect his job is to collect feedback, posts like this are the reason I only submit feeback via the in-game tool: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10539068322&sid=1
18:05.19nevcairielI dont understand your reasoning
18:05.26nevcairielafraid your post is considered off-topic?
18:05.52kenlyricstop posting off topic, you insensitive clod
18:05.52nevcairielIt was about time they did something like that. The PTR forums was so full of spam
18:05.53DashkalI see no purpose to the PTR forum outside of unable-to-play posts
18:06.06smcnDashkal if you were subscribed to a bluetracker rss you would know why. there is at least 20 posts a day asking why a post was deleted. people on the ptr forums are fucking retarded.
18:06.06DashkalEverything that's on topic can be handled via that tool
18:06.06Fisker-I got a perm ban for a single off topic post >:3
18:06.21nevcairielWell some complex issues might require feedback
18:06.26Fisker-was worth it though
18:06.32nevcairieland forums are better for that
18:07.00Dashkalsmcn: I am subscribed to the blue tracker.  If 3.0 doesn't come live soon I'm gonna write a greasemonkey script to filter out PTR posts.  I find that forum of very limited value
18:07.14nevcairielDashkal: thats true
18:07.22ShaneSvellerDashkal: share it plx
18:07.32DashkalShaneSveller: blue.mmo-champion.com
18:07.36Fisker-kinda fun how they have to remind people of following the rules :P
18:07.42ShaneSvellerDashkal: haha, no, the gm script :-P
18:07.42Fisker-And that they will enforce said rules
18:07.43Fisker-hoho
18:07.56DashkalShaneSveller: lol, only if I get annoyed enough to write it.  Mostly I just skip anything with Maaven.
18:08.01Fisker-greases codemonkey up
18:08.10Dashkalagain, absolutely nothing against him.  I more question the point of that forum.
18:08.18kenlyricthey comment entirely too much on posts they lock/delete
18:08.19Fisker-Hortus is a GOD
18:08.30ShaneSvellerDashkal: I basically skim anything besides Ghostcrawler's posts
18:08.32kenlyricblue trackers would be saved if they never commented on them
18:08.32Fisker-falls to his knees
18:08.33DashkalFisker-: I was expecting Hortus to pull a Tseric
18:08.40DashkalI'm glad for his sake he got out
18:08.45DashkalHe was getting more and more hostile
18:08.56ShaneSvellerDashkal: GC is suprisingly verbose considering how often she reiterates how busy everyone at Blizz is
18:09.17DashkalShaneSveller: GC is amazing.  How she finds the time to be the Dev's voice AND a designer is beyond me
18:09.22Fisker-Well he can just do like they do on the EU forums
18:09.32Fisker-pretend to be in wonderland
18:09.59Xinhuannev, can you reassign Routes, FuBar_Routes and Cartographer_Routes to me ;p
18:10.02ShaneSveller"We're super, super busy, like I-haven't-eaten-in-2-days busy, but here's a wall of text about the next beta build".
18:10.21kenlyricher wall of texts contain no content
18:10.25kenlyrica computer generates those
18:10.33ShaneSvellerXinhuan: wtb LDB port of Fu_Routes
18:10.36DashkalMind you I think most of it is that she needs so little sleep.  I see her posting after I've gone to bed at midnight (PST -- I'm making an educated guess that she's in my timezone)
18:10.58Xinhuani don't use LDB myself, so you're welcome to make one :)
18:10.59nevcairielXinhuan: done
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18:11.21Xinhuanwow i alt tabbed back into wow
18:11.30Xinhuanfound myself dead
18:12.11Xinhuancos i'm hated with them
18:12.23Xinhuanand i flew to gadgetzan
18:12.23Funkeh`at least it's not like source games
18:12.28Funkeh`takes over a minute to tab in
18:12.35ShaneSvellerFunkeh`:  what about 'em?
18:12.39Kaeltenheh
18:12.47ShaneSvellerFunkeh`: oh.
18:12.58ShaneSvellerFunkeh`: i've never really had it take that long, especially with Portal
18:13.10Funkeh`usually the multiplayer games
18:13.14ShaneSveller<10 seconds when I had 2GB of RAM on XP, now I have 4GB under Vista x64
18:13.15Funkeh`cs, tf2, dod
18:13.18Xinhuanthanks nev
18:13.25Xinhuancan you add me to all the gathermate related ones too
18:13.27Xinhuanoh and gatherhud
18:13.47Funkeh`the none source games would tab in instantly
18:13.53Funkeh`yet all of them tab out instantl
18:14.05Funkeh`non-source*
18:14.37nevcairielXinhuan: let the project leader do that =P
18:14.54Fisker-It's a directx "problem"
18:15.05Fisker-When you tab out all the resources are freed
18:15.12Xinhuanwell fix gatherhud to me then :)
18:15.13Fisker-so they have to be reallocated when you tab in again
18:15.20ShaneSvellerXinhuan: the other day, maybe 3 - 4 days ago, I had GatherMate freak out on beta, I don't think I'd updated it any time recently. Has that been addressed?
18:15.24Fisker-For some reason source seems to take a "bigger" hit on it though
18:15.28Fisker-But it's noticable on all games
18:15.41Xinhuanhmm freak out? last i checked it still works
18:15.47ShaneSvellerFisker-: you should see WAR after tabbing back in: hello, plain, barely-textured primatives
18:15.52Fisker-I wish all games adopted a fullscreen windowed mode though
18:15.55Xinhuanonly the config didn't until you update ace3 from trunk
18:15.57ShaneSvellertexture-pop after 5-10 seconds
18:16.04Fisker-ShaneSveller that could just as well be the game as usual ololol
18:16.21Xinhuannot sure what a "texture-pop" is
18:16.45Xinhuanthis one nevcairiel - http://beta.wowace.com/projects/gather-hud/ :)
18:16.46ShaneSvellerXinhuan: every going from grainy, blurred low-res textures to the full-res stuff you usually see
18:16.57ShaneSvelleroften part of some sort of dynamic level of detail system
18:16.59Xinhuanwhat's that got to do with gathermate?
18:17.12Cheadsinstalling addons with the curse client... expecting the worst =)  .. last time all my addons were overwritten with old versions and whole WTF dir was cleared first time I startet it  .. eek
18:17.26Fisker-You should still wait
18:17.32Cheadsthat is too late =)
18:17.34ShaneSvellerchead: i was under the impression cc didn't touch WTF at all?
18:17.36Fisker-wowace won't be on there until wednesday
18:18.00CheadsShaneSveller I have no idea, but it was some time ago
18:19.34ShaneSvellerXinhuan: i'll try a fresh copy of Gather* tonight, i'm sure it's all fine unless the most recent build whacked it
18:19.49Xinhuanok ShaneSveller
18:20.36ShaneSvellerI probably had dragged that copy from my Live interface
18:20.44NivFreakKolie: in case you missed my message the other day, the mac updater you sent me just crashes when you try to launch it
18:21.06NivFreakit's missing a library
18:21.08KriLL3same as the PC updater
18:21.19KriLL3just spews error messages and then crashes
18:21.20NivFreaklibwx_macud_richtext-2.8.0.dylib
18:22.48ShaneSvelleris there any functional difference between ptr 3.0 and wrath 3.0, besides a possible lag in versioning? in other words, if i put together a UI on beta, is it likely to work more-or-less intact when 3.0 goes live or when I try it on PTR?
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18:23.31NeoTronShaneSveller: it will work
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18:23.39NeoTronmeaning they are identicao
18:23.52ShaneSvelleralrighty, thanks
18:25.44NivFreakhttp://ace.pastey.net/96974
18:25.52NivFreakoh
18:25.54DashkalShaneSveller: they patch at the same moment.  The beta client can actually be used as a PTR client
18:25.55NivFreakkolie DC'd
18:25.56NivFreaklame
18:26.12ShaneSvellerDashkal: hm. really?
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18:26.28Dashkalyep.  Just on the PTR the northrend boat doesn't come
18:26.37ShaneSvellerinteresting.
18:26.59DashkalI think the PTR client lacks the terrain data for northrend, but aside from that they're the same code
18:27.16NivFreakyea, I noticed I could do that too
18:27.32NivFreakwhich is funny, since I bothered installing the PTR client
18:27.59smcnwow i'm an idiot, i was about to ask what would happen if you logged on the ptr client while you were in northrend... /facepalm self
18:28.05DashkalI decided that I had blown enough hard drive space on multiple copies of the game.  A patch before the current one I noticed the PTR servers showing up on my realm list
18:28.10smcns/client/server/
18:28.28Dashkalsmcn: neat trick that :p
18:28.44Pkekyo|Interface\AddOns\FuBar\FuBar_Panel.lua:282: attempt to call method 'DispatchEvent' (a nil value) <--- happens at login, any idea how to remedy the issue?
18:29.15ShaneSvellerDashkal: so you just edit realms.wtf and off she goes?
18:29.24ShaneSvelleror don't even need that?
18:29.25DashkalShaneSveller: No need to edit
18:29.31ShaneSvellercraziness.
18:29.33Funkeh`Fisker-, have you igured out how you remove the border like in 8.x?
18:29.38DashkalShaneSveller: the Beta client can see them stright-up in the realm selection
18:29.39Funkeh`or hide it, rather
18:30.01DashkalShaneSveller: Now on the PTR forum the XP cap is still there, no DKs, and the boat doesn't come, but that's the difference.  Same client, just another server
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18:32.05ShaneSvelleris PT3Bar a viable alternative to autobar if you're at all handy with Lua?
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18:33.51Fisker-Funkeh` in 8.x?
18:34.03Funkeh`you could remove the window border
18:34.20Fisker-DirectX?
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18:34.29Funkeh`messenger you twat
18:34.32Fisker-ah
18:34.40Funkeh`pats Fisker-
18:34.52Fisker-:(
18:34.55Fisker-but nah
18:34.59Fisker-just running it standard
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18:50.23Fisker-farts on Chompers
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18:53.22NeoTronShaneSveller: I used it for a while but overall I'd say no
18:53.32NeoTronShaneSveller: mainly because autobar is so much more than a few consumables
18:53.40ShaneSvellerNeoTron: alrighty. that'
18:53.52ShaneSveller's true but i'm not as much of a fan since those sweeping changes a while back
18:54.08ShaneSvellermay or may not stick with AB, might just go without.
18:54.12NeoTronlet's just say that I used autobar, changed to pt3 and then eventually got tired of not having autobar and switched back
18:54.25NeoTronand that the main thing I miss on beta right now is.. autobar
18:54.32NeoTronspecifically right now I miss the easy quest item use
18:54.41ShaneSvellerhave you looked at QuesterJester?
18:54.56ShaneSvellerbuttonfacade support, does only quest items on an autobar-style button
18:55.38NeoTronI have not
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18:56.13ShaneSvellerI've only tried it for the process of re-rolling my beta dk to try the starter zone with a lot less lag, but it worked great for me. button icon didn't always clear like it should, otherwise it's perfectly functional.
18:57.39NeoTronlevel 79 DK.. and I keep dragging repeat quest items to my actionbar
18:57.45NeoTronwhich is why I realize how much I miss it :P
18:57.49ShaneSvellerhehe
18:58.11DashkalNeoTron: 79?  I thought you were ahead of me!
18:58.20Chosiis there any more complex economy whatever selling auction magic addon than vendor?
18:58.26Chosiace'd
18:58.38Industrialdont "is it ace".
18:58.42Industrialuse auctioneer.
18:58.47Chosiokay
18:58.53Industrialits the best, and will never be surpassed.
18:58.58ShaneSvellerChosi: Industrial is right. Auctioneer Advanced is pretty much the tits.
18:59.00Chosidoes auctioneer have that "is buyout smaller than vendor price?"
18:59.05ShaneSvellerChosi: yup.
18:59.08Chosigreat
18:59.11Industrialauctioneer has everything.
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18:59.25ShaneSvellerChosi: with the full suite it can tell you vendor this, DE that, and auction the other.
18:59.44Chosiawesome
18:59.45ShaneSvellerand you can perform a full AH scan in a short while, ~70 seconds on my rig
18:59.50Chosihaven't touched auctioneer for a long time
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19:02.05kenlyricalt-batch post
19:02.09kenlyricctrl-alt-shift batch post
19:02.22NeoTronDashkal: I've been doing other stuff
19:02.33NeoTronDashkal: like raiding naxx on my premade dk and running heroics
19:02.43Dashkalahh
19:02.49Dashkaland eww to raiding naxx in pvp gear :p
19:02.53NeoTron<PROTECTED>
19:03.02NeoTronI topped out around 2000 dps
19:03.04DashkalNot that I'm any better.  80 but still in mostly quest greens
19:03.16NeoTron+
19:03.19Dashkalyeah, I'm sub-1000.  Unholy atm
19:03.20NeoTronspell hit vs melee hit sucks
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19:03.31NeoTronthey really should be the same
19:03.39DashkalGonna play frost tonight
19:04.17Chosikenlyric: what does that do?
19:04.17DashkalI'm still pretty certain I'm going blood come live, but I really _really_ needed to learn the other two
19:04.34NeoTronas unholy dps I've done 3000+ dps (premade heroic) on trash
19:04.40NeoTronI haev 4 pieces from naxx I think
19:04.44kenlyricChosi: scans the AH for the things in your inventory and then posts those things
19:05.08NeoTronI've done 2000 dps on the boss level test dummy as unholy on the server
19:05.10NeoTronincluding pet dps
19:05.24NeoTroncan't do the same with blood
19:05.31ShaneSvellerdoes RatingBuster off the files page this morning work on 3.0?
19:05.32NeoTronlarge degree due to spell hit
19:08.57dafireKaelten: you made a terrible mistake .)
19:09.11nevcairielAnyone else need their project re-assigned?
19:11.46NeoTronnevcairiel: how do you know, is it done yet?
19:11.46nevcairielproject import is
19:11.46nevcairielsvns and files are importing as we speak
19:11.46dafirehttp://beta.wowace.com
19:11.46kagaroyou should put  alink of un-assinged projects nevcairiel
19:11.47nevcairiellong list is long
19:11.50nevcairieljust check wowaceSVN user =P
19:11.51ShaneSvellerIs there anything that is similar to nQuestLog working on Beta? I just want a prettier Quest Tracker that is expand/collapsible and movable
19:11.54Xinhuannevcairiel, does projects i have co-author or "access" to supposed to show up in "my projects"?
19:12.02nevcairielXinhuan: ya
19:12.14Xinhuankagaro supposedly gave me access
19:12.22AckisWorkhttp://beta.wowace.com/profiles/wowaceSVN/ <-- doesn't list everything
19:12.24Xinhuanhmm wait i'll double check
19:12.45nevcairielAckisWork: click the projects link in the menu
19:12.45Xinhuanoh ok it does
19:12.47NeoTronseems like all mine are on my page
19:12.56Xinhuani was looking at the wrong page it seems
19:13.15Xinhuanif you searched for say "Xinhuan" it would only list projects that you are project lead of, but not contributor of
19:13.31Stanzillawho will get ownership for ace/2? :P
19:13.43nevcairielalready fixed that one
19:15.43Fisker-i will die
19:15.44QuaicheYay! They show up in both WowAce and CF/home
19:15.59nevcairielThats the only place where both show up, though
19:16.03nevcairieleverythign else is seperated
19:16.14QuaicheI sure wish they were ordered better on my /home page. :P
19:16.54NeoTronso one major issue I have with (all) curseforge/wowace "list" pages
19:16.59*** join/#wowace waallen (i=wallen@78.134.21.8)
19:17.06NeoTronespecially addons.. no way to "show me addons beginning with letter X" :P
19:17.11nevcairielheh
19:17.19NeoTron"hmm wonder which of these 452 pages have M addons"
19:17.22nevcairielI bet thats one of the visual enhancement tasks
19:17.26Matrix110hmmm
19:17.28nevcairielthats on Kaelten's whiteboard
19:17.31NeoTronfortunately the search works
19:17.39Matrix110a Link on the wowace page to the client would be nice btw :P
19:17.39Kaeltennevcairiel: it is
19:17.54KaeltenMatrix110: noted
19:18.07Matrix110I know where to find it but clueless noobs...
19:18.18KriLL3I wish there was a way to just start typing like you can do in WAU
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19:19.32KriLL3is there any eta on when the curse updater will work?
19:19.39KriLL3seems WAU doesn't anymore
19:19.50KaeltenKriLL3: wau should be fine
19:19.57KaeltenI haven't turned of files.wowace.yet
19:20.02kenlyricjwu is still fine. Just nothing updated today
19:20.05Fisker-works here
19:20.06QuaicheWhen does files.wowace.com stop getting updated?
19:20.10*** join/#wowace stew_a (n=Stewart@unafilliated/stewa/x-008753)
19:20.13kenlyricand probably nothing updated anymore :)
19:20.18KaeltenQuaiche: its already stopped getting updates
19:20.19kenlyricbut it still *works*
19:20.22Fisker-i already think they stopped updating it
19:20.23Fisker-^^
19:20.34QuaicheOkay, so you can update to LKG, but moving forward it is now CC or manual.
19:20.36Kaeltenstopped this morning when I closed off write access
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19:20.41QuaicheJust checking
19:20.49Kaeltenand CC won't have wowace files until wednesday
19:20.53KriLL3so we have to use the curse client?
19:20.55KriLL3it doesn't work
19:20.57[SW]DodgeKaelten: what time is it in CST atm?
19:20.58[SW]Dodge:D
19:21.00KaeltenKriLL3: elaborate?
19:21.06KaeltenDodge: 2:20
19:21.07Quaiche[SW]Dodge: 2:21pm
19:21.09Kaeltenlong script is long!
19:21.11KriLL3Kaelten: it spits out a ton of error messages and then crashes
19:21.13kenlyric3 days with no updates?!?!?!?!??!??!
19:21.17[SW]Dodgedoooh :(
19:21.28KaeltenKriLL3: pastie?
19:21.30KriLL3someone linked the bug to people with . in their user names
19:21.56nevcairielKriLL3: get those error messages to kolie, then :)
19:22.31KriLL3I've given em to someone through the report a bug feature, but it still doesn't work weeks after
19:22.35Fisker-btw Kaelten will premium also cover the regular site or only the client?
19:23.41AckisWorkFisker-: it's for the curse network
19:23.45BelazorOMG CHAOS! Update with WAU while you still caaaaaaaaan!
19:23.49AckisWorkwowdb, wardb, curse, curse client, etc
19:24.31Fisker-hmm
19:24.47Fisker-Probably would be a good idea to force addon authors to make more sane descriptions
19:24.54Fisker-or have seperate client descriptions
19:27.14[SW]DodgeFisker-: or make the client to show the descriptions better :D
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19:31.42Fisker-true :P
19:32.27NeoTronafter I set my ssh public key, is theer a delay before I can use it?
19:32.30kenlyricadd on an external addons option to curse client!
19:32.50nevcairielNeoTron: shouldnt be, but remember that the repositories are still importing
19:33.38Matrix110hmmm
19:33.42NeoTronto use the svn I assume I do  svn+ssh://login@svn[...]?
19:33.56NeoTronI never used ssh with svn
19:34.32KriLL3does anyone know of an addon more like WAU that still works? I don't want a huge app that does a million things and crashes before it does anything useful
19:34.41NivFreakhehe, we just got our first in guild warglaive
19:34.43KriLL3it just asks what fan pack all my addons come from then crashes :<
19:34.44sbYSAYYYY
19:34.45NivFreaksadly by recruitment
19:34.46sbmuru down
19:34.48sbfinally :)
19:34.49NivFreaksb: grats!
19:36.20QuaicheWhen will wowace.com start perma-redirecting to the new site?
19:37.38NeoTronsb: grats. we got two kills in before the guild imploded
19:37.54EthanCentauraigives Kaelten a piece of the chocolate cake he made
19:38.28KaeltenEthanCentaurai: you never answered my email did you?
19:38.42EthanCentauraiI have, I sent a reply :)
19:39.03NivFreakNeoTron: didn't you implode it?
19:39.25Kaeltenah
19:40.11EthanCentauraiI hope it arrived OK, my router died shortly afterward :(
19:40.35Kaeltenchecking
19:40.37Kaelten:)
19:40.55Kaeltenwhat was your old name again?
19:41.12NivFreakNeoTron: did you see my comment about resist rate in beta
19:41.16NeoTronNivFreak: sure >:-)
19:41.23NeoTronNivFreak: it's 17%? I didn't see your comment
19:41.30NivFreakwell
19:41.34NivFreak3500 casts of drain life
19:41.37NeoTronNivFreak: but to be fair we'd been unable to field suitable raids for two weeks
19:41.38NivFreakresist rate was 16%
19:41.40NivFreaknot 17, but 16
19:41.42NeoTronah
19:41.44NivFreaknot sure if that's RNG
19:41.48NivFreakor if they just dropped the 1%
19:41.49NeoTronit's possibly it
19:41.55NeoTronit's annoying as a DK
19:42.08NeoTronI can expect to have 4% bonus hit (boomkin/sp + draenei)
19:42.12NivFreakI need to borrow one of my lock's accounts on PTR
19:42.14NeoTronso I need to get 12% spell hit
19:42.26NivFreakmeh, I guess there are no lvl 73 mobs to test on
19:42.27NeoTronand 9% melee hit
19:42.36NeoTronNivFreak: you'd need a helaer
19:42.36smcndidn't they say they dropped the %1?
19:42.54NeoTronNivFreak:  I tested on a level 75 mob (at level 72) but it was a pain in the neck
19:43.09NivFreakNeoTron: I wrote a quick apple script and let it run over night
19:43.17NivFreakNeoTron: 3xDL,1xLT
19:43.27NivFreakthe resists eventually screwed me though
19:43.38NivFreakand I ended up OOM and without enough life to tap
19:43.46EthanCentauraiKaelten: DarkImakuni :)
19:43.48NivFreakbut I did get 3500 casts of DL in over 6 hours
19:43.51NivFreakso it was decent enough
19:44.08NivFreakI might spec into affliction to get the drain talents
19:44.14NivFreakso I can do that without the resists screwing it up
19:44.19NivFreakI was 0/0/0
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19:47.26NeoTronah
19:47.36NeoTronwell 16% seems in line with waht they have said
19:48.20NivFreakI just assumed it would be 17%
19:48.36NeoTronI had heard that the 1% was just removed as smcn said
19:49.24NeoTronNivFreak: it seems unholy will have one major benefit - don't need extra hit
19:49.30NeoTronor frost most likely
19:49.47NeoTronit's possible a 51/0/20 blood spec (or similar) would work too
19:49.56NeoTronjust have to use obliterate in a more conscious manner
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19:54.44NivFreakwatches his portfolio crash
19:54.47NivFreakfuck...
19:55.09NeoTronpatience is the key!
19:55.19NivFreaklike I said, watch
19:56.46KriLL3what exactly makes the curse client cheaper for the wowace guys than WAU?
19:57.16NivFreakKriLL3: adds
19:57.18NivFreakads
19:57.25KriLL3WAU got ads also
19:57.30NivFreaknot that pays curse
19:57.34NivFreakafaik
19:57.45NivFreakor even if they do, the other 2123423 updaters don't
19:58.04KriLL3I don't like the curse client, it's meant to run in the background and try to find your addons by guessing, and most of the stuff on there isn't even recent :z
19:58.20KriLL3WAU is a lot more handy, want to update your addons? you open it, click update, done.
19:58.23netcurseThis will be fixed by Wednesday.
19:58.46KriLL3the curse client wants to be a lot more than just an addon updater, which makes it feel clunky
19:58.50netcursethe CC can do..
19:58.55netcursethe exact sam
19:58.55netcursee*
19:59.09KriLL3can't we get something more like WAU but using the curse repositories?
19:59.20KriLL3I don't want yet another program running in my systray
19:59.26netcurseWhat the CC doesn't do that WAU does?
19:59.32netcurseyou can run the CC once a month
19:59.37netcurseno problem
19:59.38KriLL3quick and snappy updates
19:59.59KriLL3CC takes ages looking through your addons each time you start it
20:00.06netcurse?
20:00.12netcurseit takes half a second for me
20:00.15KriLL3and CC is meant to be run in the background all the time, something I'm not a fan of
20:00.22KriLL3took a couple of mins for me
20:01.29*** join/#wowace ShaneSveller (n=mellerfa@64-199-29-162.ip.mcleodusa.net)
20:01.50ShaneSvellerAnyone know of a lib for tooltips with clickable lines?
20:02.15EthanCentauraiShaneSveller: Tablet-2.0
20:02.33ShaneSvellerEthanCentaurai: is that 3.0-compatible?
20:02.35KaeltenKriLL3:  how many addons do you have?
20:02.48EthanCentauraino idea, I can't get into beta or PTR :(
20:03.09KriLL3200 including sub stuff for fubar, blizzard's own, atlas + a lot of parts etc
20:03.28netcurseKriLL3, trust me 90% of the development time has been spent on making a good updaters, we are listening to feedbacks and we want to make it the best possible
20:03.31KriLL3how I wish addons used just one folder, and had sup portions inside
20:03.56KriLL3netcurse: why can't you just copy & paste WAU but point it to curse? :<
20:04.00KaeltenKriLL3: if they'd give us sub toc support that might have been a reality
20:04.28KaeltenKriLL3:  WAU didn't meat all of our objectives, including offering a mac client.  
20:04.31Kaeltenmeet*
20:04.41ckknightKriLL3: (a) because WAU isn't cross-platform and has no hope of being so (b) it was a big money drain
20:04.48KriLL3cc doesn't have a mac version either ;)
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20:04.59ckknightKriLL3: Kolie is working on it right now
20:05.16KriLL3ckknight: how is CC more economic than WAU if you pointed both to the same files and gave it the same ads?
20:05.21ckknightsince it's wxWidgets, it's not gonna be too hard
20:05.32KriLL3is WAU VB?
20:05.37ckknightit's C#
20:05.44nevcairielC# is the "in" VB :P
20:05.46KriLL3doesn't C work just fine on macs?
20:05.46ckknightKriLL3: the way the ads are presented is different, granted, WAU could've been hacked to show ads in a similar way
20:05.56nevcairielits C#, a microsoft creation
20:05.57nevcairielnot C
20:06.03profalbertC ~= C#
20:06.09KriLL3ckknight: how does it show ads? I'm on a "premium trial"
20:06.18nevcairieleveryone is
20:06.19nevcairiel;)
20:06.20KriLL3nevcairiel: it's some kind of .net right?
20:06.23nevcairielya
20:06.27*** join/#wowace Groktar (n=domein@129.8.226.24)
20:06.39KaeltenKriLL3: it is and mono isn't to a point to reliably run it last we checked
20:06.51ShaneSvellerboo CLR environments
20:06.53ShaneSvellerboo .NET
20:06.55ckknightKriLL3: for non-premium, you have to install each addon individually, and you view an ad each time
20:06.57Groktar"introduction to api"
20:07.03ShaneSvellerboo anything that is coded in Visual Studio, lol
20:07.07Groktarer, "introduction to opengl"
20:07.12KriLL3ckknight: view and ad each time? as in a popup?
20:07.20Groktarmaybe i picked a good week to finally come to class
20:07.23EthanCentauraimicrosoft love copying other peoples work and slagging it off as their own... after all UNIX was the first OS but Microsoft stole it, rebranded it and made all the credit while UNIX etc drifted into legend :S
20:07.27ckknightKriLL3: not a popup, it shows in a designated area
20:07.33stew_a<PROTECTED>
20:07.45ckknightEthanCentaurai: they mostly took a lot of their NT ideas from VMS
20:07.56KriLL3ckknight: you're saying I need to manually update 100~ addons?
20:08.10EthanCentauraiKriLL3: I do :)
20:08.13Kaeltenalso trust me the new system will actually result in much less bandwith and will result in an overall better support for authors, and the sites hsoting the addons.
20:08.14ShaneSvellerstew_a: blizz really locked down targeting of anything, so very likely not
20:08.15KriLL3that's 200 clicks?
20:08.17ckknighteither that or pay $2.99/month
20:08.21Pneumatus"UNIX was the first OS"
20:08.25Pneumatusyou're not even close
20:08.33KaeltenKriLL3: seriously, witht he new system you should only get about 10 updates a week give or take?
20:08.39EthanCentauraiwell what do I know :S
20:08.41KriLL3Pneumatus: didn't you see jurasic park?
20:08.43GroktarPneumatus: i wasn't even going to touch that one
20:08.54KriLL3Kaelten: how so?
20:08.57ckknightKriLL3: Kaelten's right, we're moving to a system that doesn't promote trunk zips
20:09.07ShaneSvellerKriLL3: computer kryptonite: Jeff Goldblum's MacBook
20:09.10stew_aShaneSveller: yeah i know, i've got 1 or 2 slightly hacky workarounds using secure frames but they're fairly messy
20:09.14ckknightKriLL3: zips are only sent to curse.com (which the curse client uses as a data source) when they are tagged
20:09.17KaeltenKriLL3: authors have to tag an update.
20:09.21KriLL3well can you update each one easily or do I need to click each addon manually and try to update?
20:09.37KaeltenKriLL3: one click will show you all the addons that need to be updated
20:09.39KriLL3does it show which got new versions?
20:09.43KriLL3kk
20:09.44Kaeltenyes
20:10.14KriLL3I guess I can live with that, I can't live with it's systray hogging though
20:10.29KriLL3you have to be able to set it to not go to systray on close
20:10.38ckknightKriLL3: check the menu, guy
20:10.41ckknightyou have that ability
20:10.47ckknightit's like "X to close"
20:10.47KaeltenKriLL3: you can
20:10.48ckknightor something
20:10.50Pneumatuswelcome to a discussion about a month ago?
20:11.00KaeltenPneumatus: lol, we all play catch up sometime
20:11.05KriLL3"close client on X" man that's a horribly description =P
20:11.19KriLL3"Close to systray" would be better
20:11.21Kaeltenit could use an improvement
20:11.30KriLL3or system tray
20:11.42Kaeltenbut Kolie with that suggestion
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20:12.37NivFreakwe could really use a mac updater
20:12.43NivFreak*cough*
20:12.45ckknightNivFreak: and Kolie's working on it
20:12.58KriLL3I can't imagine that there are that many people playing wow on macs
20:13.01NivFreakckknight: and has been
20:13.08ckknightKriLL3: I have a mac
20:13.12NivFreakand unlike what was said, it was not ready to go before files stopped being updated
20:13.16NivFreaknot even a beta
20:13.24NivFreakKriLL3: there are a ton of people playing wow on mac
20:13.27KriLL3ckknight: yes a few % have macs, but most mac users aren't gamers
20:13.42ckknightwhat about Breakout
20:13.44ckknightSuper Breakout
20:13.47KriLL3...
20:13.47ckknight...Photoshop
20:14.05NivFreakthe only non-console game I really play is WoW
20:14.10NivFreakit runs great on my mac, so I use it
20:14.17NivFreaksometimes I play on my vista box
20:14.21NivFreakbut usually just the mac
20:14.36KriLL3well I guess it's different in the US
20:14.40NivFreakno?
20:14.45KriLL3here macs are novelty items at best
20:14.56NivFreakyou, as usual, are talking without any data to back you up
20:14.59ckknightwhere is "here"?
20:15.03KriLL3Sweden
20:15.08dafireus has the biggest share on macs
20:15.09ckknightoh
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20:15.19ckknightwell if you're a Swede, then no thank you.
20:15.24ckknight:-P
20:15.30NivFreakman
20:15.39KriLL3dafire: not that odd, it's their local market
20:15.39ShaneSvellerI use a Mac all day long except for gaming, I have a MacBook (santa rosa 3.1) and a 5th-gen iMac at home as well, my g/f plays the Sims 2 on the iMac but that's about the only workout it gets
20:15.44NivFreakI think the market would have been better off if another plan had crashed into a skyscraper
20:15.47NivFreakthis is so fucked
20:15.51KriLL3same as Volvos are the most common cars here in Sweden...
20:16.49KriLL3and us Swedes are a bit techier than the average nation
20:17.31Groktar(and KriLL3 is the exception to the rule)
20:17.50KriLL3what rule?
20:17.59FinalXa/w 21
20:18.01FinalXoops
20:18.16Groktarboggles at KriLL3
20:19.07dafiremacs are good.. only thing i don't like is their limited hardware offer .. if you don't want a mac with included screen you can choose between €500 mac mini or €2500 mac pro and nothing between that
20:19.31NivFreakI mostly just use thier laptops
20:19.35KriLL3well most mac users buy it all in one package, then replaces it all
20:19.39NivFreakand still roll my own desktops
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20:20.23dafireI'll probably get a macbook when I need to get a new laptop.. and I run macos on my desktop right now.. but it's not mac hardware .9
20:20.46KriLL3if I ever got a laptop it would be a 10-9'' Eee or similar
20:21.03KriLL3macbooks keyboard is unusable for me, and they're way too pricy
20:25.03Industrialis there halo3 for pc?
20:25.20netcursenop
20:25.23netcurseand it will never go on pc
20:25.29Industrialdamn
20:25.43Industriali wanna play a good shooter game (already downloading halo 2 atm)
20:25.58IndustrialI tried Delta Force: Black Hawk Down yesterday
20:26.00netcursesome free to play fps are not too bad
20:26.00Groktari can't even imagine having enough time to play a game other than wow
20:26.06Industrialbut apparently you cant play online anymore without a legit key
20:26.08Industrialyou always used to
20:26.12netcursehttp://combatarms.nexon.net/Intro.aspx try this it's free
20:26.47IndustrialI especially like shooters where I can take a sniper rifle and lay in the mountains and pick ppl off :>
20:27.22Industrialnice netcurse
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20:37.43digmousetry Call of Duty 4 Multiplayer then
20:39.38Adirelle[SW]Dodge: ping ?
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20:41.52EthanCentauraioffers everyone a jelly baby, but hides the black ones...
20:42.36ckknightis that a racially motivated action?
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20:44.49VonhintenHOME`Everyone's always lookin' to lock the blacks up
20:45.08EthanCentaurai:O
20:45.15EthanCentauraiI never meant like that :O
20:45.23VonhintenHOME`Suuuure you didn't
20:45.37[SW]DodgeAdirelle: pong, sorry had a timed Bejeweled while flying xD
20:45.44Adirelle^^
20:46.00VonhintenHOME`You know if you arrange your name "Ethan" and add an "m", it spells "The Man"
20:46.03Adirelle[SW]Dodge: please do not tag 3.0.2 version of CDB as " release" on curse.com
20:46.05VonhintenHOME`What do you have to say for yourself
20:46.11Adirelleit does very bad things with the curse client
20:46.55AckisWorkVonhintenHOME`: if you rearrange your name and add "is an idiot" it spells "VonhintenHOME` is an idiot"
20:47.02AckisWorkheh
20:47.11EthanCentauraiAckisWork: pwnage :D
20:47.14VonhintenHOME`You didn't rearrrange anything
20:47.26AckisWorkyes I did
20:47.32AckisWorkI swapped the o's around
20:47.40Tifiidentity permutation
20:48.33[SW]DodgeAdirelle: ok, tagged as 2.4.3 now
20:48.45Adirelleer...
20:49.08Adirellethat is not the point
20:49.22Adirelle(unless it is 3.0.2 AND 2.4.3 compatible)
20:49.34[SW]Dodgeit works for both
20:49.44Adirelleok, so that's fine, I had a doubt
20:49.50[SW]Dodgeit has a smal wrath hack ;)
20:50.16Adirellethe fact is that actually the curse client update to the latest release, be it compatible with the wow client version or not
20:50.47Adirelleand as latest CDB release was tagged 3.0.2, I'm wasn't sure it was compatible with 2.4.3
20:50.52Adirelles/'m//
20:51.18[SW]DodgeAdirelle: thats not a problem, the only issue it was that some paly spells changed
20:51.22Fisker-~kiss purl
20:51.23purlACTION forces purl to give [SW]Dodge a big kiss on the lips
20:51.42Fisker-~kiss AckisWork
20:51.42purlACTION forces AckisWork to give steev a big kiss on the lips
20:51.52[SW]Dodgelol? :D
20:52.39Groktar~kiss sallystruthers
20:52.40purlACTION forces sallystruthers to give Jagannath a big kiss on the hand
20:53.56Fisker-~kiss Fisker-
20:53.57purlACTION forces Fisker- to give Jagobah a big kiss on the forhead
20:56.54KriLL3I think blizzard should make the boats, zeps and tram sync better to when I want to use them
20:57.08KriLL3they're always leaving the second I see them :z
20:57.21profalbertthen it is quite well synced ;)
20:57.36KriLL3no, I usually can't catch em
20:57.51profalbertyep, as i said ;)
20:58.07KriLL3they should delay them 30s, then I'd time them all perfectly
20:59.42AckisWorkFisker-: I love you
21:00.16KriLL3I wounder if there will ever be an addon that re-orders your pets and mounts
21:00.30KriLL3similar ones should be next to each other, instead of in alphabetic order
21:00.56KriLL3almost all mount/pet names start with the color
21:01.09NeoTronfound the forum template for my new guild forums: http://www.phpbb.com/styles/demo/3.0/index.php?style=125
21:02.25KriLL3ftw
21:02.29Seerahhehe
21:02.42KriLL3makes my eyes bleed
21:02.46SeerahI like the sparkles!
21:03.07KriLL3the sparkles should be animated
21:03.31NeoTronthey are :P
21:03.42KriLL3nope
21:03.56NeoTronhow do you define animated?
21:03.57AckisWorkKriLL3: mini-pets too imo :P
21:04.01Seerahthis one's cool http://www.phpbb.com/styles/demo/3.0/?style=25
21:04.10KriLL3AckisWork: well I meant mini pets
21:04.13KriLL3I'm not a hunter
21:04.26KriLL3oh there is a mouse over effect, didn't see that
21:04.34KriLL3I thought you meant the bg etc
21:04.40NeoTronah no yeah the mouse over.
21:04.42NeoTronit's quite scary
21:05.06KriLL3big blocks of flickering stuff? naw...
21:06.31KriLL3who do I hit in the face to make AtlasLoot Enchanced work with sub tables when you go to a quickloot link at the bottom?
21:06.56KriLL3say S4 druid stuff is link 4, I should be able to use the sub table button to go to other classes & weapons :<
21:09.28Kaeltenis it kagaro?
21:14.45Fisker-~kiss AckisWork
21:14.46purlACTION forces AckisWork to give Yssaril a big kiss on the ear
21:15.10EthanCentaurai~kiss me
21:15.11purlACTION forces ethancentaurai to give sb a big kiss on the neck
21:15.19Yssaril~slap AckisWork
21:15.19purlACTION slaps AckisWork, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
21:15.20EthanCentaurai:O
21:15.34Groktardevours EthanCentaurai's soul
21:15.43EthanCentauraiisn't very tasty...
21:15.44sbwhy me????
21:15.45sbwtf!
21:15.52sbpurl: you suck!
21:15.52purlSorry!
21:16.02EthanCentauraixD
21:16.05sbpurl: go, kiss Fisker-!
21:16.08AckisWorkwhy so mean Yssaril?
21:16.25Groktarsticks his to tongue in purl's ear
21:16.36EthanCentaurai~kiss Groktar
21:16.37purlACTION forces Groktar to give TNSe a big kiss on the forhead
21:16.40Groktartypes out some more goodry engrish
21:17.11digmouselooks into his dictionary
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21:18.44Groktarforces digmouse to hold his breath until long script is finished
21:20.04EthanCentauraiwishes Kaelten the best of luck with the migration before logging off for bed.
21:20.17KaeltenEthanCentaurai: your name change was just done
21:20.18Kaeltenbtw
21:20.25EthanCentauraiok thanks :)
21:20.27Tullerthat is a hell of a long script, I assume :P
21:20.27ckknightpeople don't wish me luck with the migration
21:20.29ckknightsniffles
21:20.37EthanCentauraihugs ckknight
21:20.39Kaeltenckknight: you share in my good fortune
21:20.42ckknightlol
21:20.48GroktarKaelten is prettier
21:20.53ckknightpssh
21:21.06Groktari hear ckknight is red headed and a stepchild
21:21.22ckknightyes, and comments about beating red-headed stepchildren do piss me off, so you know
21:21.50EthanCentauraiwishes ckknight the best of luck with the migration, and logs off.
21:21.54Groktari never said anything about beating them
21:21.55Groktar:(
21:23.44ckknightseemed like you were heading in that direction
21:25.19dafireguess ckknight used dogtags in the script :p
21:25.27ckknight?
21:25.59dafireanother one complained that it uses to much cpu on the forums :)
21:26.54Tullerwell, its a good thing my hair is copper colored
21:29.09ckknightmine's something around Auburn
21:29.53digmouseso, the migration means everytime I wanna do localization for a new addon, I need to get myself accesss to its repo, and do this again for another?
21:30.29Pneumatusall repos are gonna be set open, arent they?
21:30.59Arrowmasterby default yes
21:31.14Arrowmasterbut theres also a new localization system that authors can setup
21:31.15nevcairielThere will be a website translation system in the comign weeks
21:31.31digmousebut isnt it in CF you have to tell the author u wanna do sth. and let them mark you as member?
21:31.42Pneumatusunless they set the repo open
21:31.55ckknightdigmouse: repos are open by default on wowac
21:31.57ckknightwowace*
21:31.58Pneumatusyou can pake your repos public on normal CF projects without requiring auth
21:32.02nevcairielJust use Git, keeps the people out anyway
21:32.02nevcairiel;)
21:32.03ckknightalso, we're coming up with a localization system
21:32.07ckknightnevcairiel: *thumbs up*
21:32.34nevcairielbut srsly, set my Git repos to closed so noone screws up my history =P
21:32.35digmouseso I dont need to worry about anything then
21:32.41Pneumatusare there plans to make global locale strings, so ditch the babble libs and use some kind of global updating system to each addon?
21:32.44Yssarilwhat do people have agains git just cause it dosnt hook into explorer and slows down your system :P
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21:32.51ckknightPneumatus: no
21:33.00Pneumatusshame, that could be cool
21:33.09Arrowmasterno it wouldnt
21:33.16ckknightyea, it has issues
21:38.26VonhintenHOME`ckk, you tested curseforce on ie7 at all?
21:38.49ckknightIE isn't a big priority for us, why, found an issue?
21:39.06VonhintenHOME`The drop down menu's for Repository Actions etc open under other div's
21:39.14ckknightlameness
21:39.15VonhintenHOME`makes it impossible to click some of the items
21:39.23ckknightKaelten: the z-index is still fucked up for IE, apparently
21:39.33Kaeltenon curseforge?
21:39.36Kaeltenor wowace?
21:39.40VonhintenHOME`cf
21:39.50Kaeltenaware
21:39.54Kaeltenwill be handled in the backports
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21:55.55winkillerz-index is a bitch
22:00.22KriLL3IE is a bitch
22:02.24digmouseno, IE is SoB
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22:18.41KaeltenIE's z-index is a bitch
22:18.45Kaeltenits relative to its parents
22:18.54KaeltenI'm debugging the mac client
22:18.56Kaeltenhehe
22:21.20VonhintenHOME`I hate web development
22:21.35VonhintenHOME`it's a moving fucking target, always has been
22:21.46StanzillaI like html/css stuff
22:21.57Stanzillaas long as I dont have to care about different browsers :P
22:22.03Fisker-fathers some z-indexes with Kaelten
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22:25.23Zyndromewtb oUF_Swingtimer :\
22:30.57[Liquidor](Me standing): http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8392/wowscrnshot092908201419ki5.jpg
22:32.03AntiarcKaelten: Hahahah, oh, you're dealing with that too?
22:32.16AntiarcDepending on the problem to be solved, I've used a few solutions to get around it
22:32.20KaeltenAnduinLothar: which one?
22:32.24AntiarcBut yes, the z-index bugs are one of the nastiest.
22:32.30Kaeltenoh the relative z-index thing?
22:32.32Kaeltenya its a bitch :s
22:32.45Kaeltencheck out my menu javascript on the new wowace
22:33.12Stanzilla[Liquidor]: lol what stuff is that?
22:33.49KaeltenAntiarc: interesting lines to follow
22:33.50Kaelten<PROTECTED>
22:33.50Kaelten<PROTECTED>
22:33.50Kaelten<PROTECTED>
22:33.51AntiarcKaelten: If you're using Javascript, I've used it by using JS to pop the DOM node out of the tree and re-insert it under the body element
22:33.57AntiarcHehehe, yes, exactly
22:34.40[Liquidor]Different races here :) http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9388/magewcr0.png
22:36.15[Liquidor]Heh I bet you prefer this one :P http://i32.tinypic.com/28mir61.png
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22:40.27ckknightokay everyone
22:40.29ckknightrepos are in place
22:40.54Stanzillayay
22:40.58ckknighthrm
22:41.03ckknightdon't use em yet, gotta install the hooks
22:41.21Dashkalapparently not the public ones...
22:41.26[Liquidor]These are nice too :) http://www.wowhead.com/?item=13129#screenshots I use them on my twink: http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2513/wowscrnshot031208212559zy0.jpg and http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8765/wowscrnshot031208212542un9.jpg hehe :P
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22:42.24Kaeltengotta run man
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22:45.52leech2khmm
22:47.11ckknightokay, repos are all done
22:48.36fewynoh cool
22:48.39fewynthe upgrade is today?
22:48.48leech2kkind of
22:48.51leech2kits starting today
22:48.53fewynfunfun
22:49.14leech2kI think the word is stuff should be working again by wednesday?
22:49.55Adirelleckknight: still svn+ssh://svn@newsvn.wowace.com/ ?
22:50.01ckknightyea, for now
22:50.27ckknightprojects and repos are stable on beta.wowace.com
22:50.29ckknightforums are yet to be done
22:50.31ckknightworking on it now, actually
22:50.38ckknightonce forums are done, we switch the dns
22:50.45ckknightat least for www.wowace.com
22:52.22leech2kMy mod now says wowaceSVN is the author, is that something I need to fix, or something still being worked on?
22:53.00NivFreakhehe
22:53.07NivFreakeven I know what that means
22:54.18ulicleech2k: it means you need to find an admin to fix it for you, they may or may not be kinda busy right now.
22:54.26leech2kso it seems beta.wowace.com and curseforge.com username/profile are now one and the same right?
22:54.29ckknightleech2k: what's your addon?
22:54.33ckknightyes
22:54.37ckknightI can fix it for you
22:54.54leech2kdgks, dgks_baby, dgks_sexy, dgks_female should belong to leech
22:55.21leech2kbut u can fix it later :-)
22:55.34leech2kWhen things settle down.
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22:56.17leech2kow nice that wqas quick
22:56.21ckknightdone
22:56.24leech2kthx
22:56.48leech2kand btw things are really looking good so far :-)
22:56.56kenlyricso how do i get at least one beta or release file if i have no files, or does approved by an admin come first?
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22:59.05KriLL3anyone knows of a good buff addon that shows bar, timer and icon?
22:59.22Gnarfozsimplebuffbars?
22:59.34KriLL3is that related to simpleminimap?
22:59.51Gnarfozno
22:59.56KriLL3good
22:59.56Gnarfoz(wtf?)
23:00.03leech2klol
23:00.13Adirelleckknight: this URL leads to "authorization failed" : svn+ssh://svn@newsvn.wowace.com/wow/simple-self-rebuff/mainline/trunk
23:00.25Adirellethe ssh parts is ok (checked with putty)
23:00.54ckknightthat's odd
23:01.04leech2ko noes do I need to hang out in #curseforge now :-)
23:01.27ckknightdon't see any real reason to, leech2k
23:01.31ckknightyou're welcome to, of course
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23:02.51KriLL3Gnarfoz: got a link? google gives nothing
23:02.57Gnarfozwowinterface.com
23:03.08Adirelleckknight: same with svn://adirelle@newsvn.wowace.com/wow/simple-self-rebuff/mainline/trunk
23:03.25Adirellesomething weird with the project ?
23:04.02Adirellelike in "your authentication is ok, but you don't have the right to access the repository"
23:04.17ckknighthrm
23:04.22ckknightlemme see what I can do
23:04.42NeoTronI just get "Permission denied (publickey)."
23:04.46KriLL3Gnarfoz: Simple Buff Bars =P
23:04.48NeoTroneven though I have my public key up there
23:05.05ckknightum, Adirelle I was able to ceckout with svn+ssh
23:05.08ckknightcheckout*
23:05.09GnarfozKriLL3: directory name etc.
23:05.14NeoTronmeaning ssh fails to authenticate
23:05.21KriLL3does CC pull info from wowi btw?
23:05.26ckknightno, KriLL3
23:05.29GnarfozCURSE client
23:05.34Gnarfoz>_<
23:05.39KriLL3so I'll still have to prowl wowi? :(
23:05.58Gnarfozfavorite + email notificaction
23:06.20Adirelleckknight: I don't :/
23:06.34Adirellestill "authorization failed"
23:06.42ckknighthrm
23:06.45KriLL3Gnarfoz: yeah, but it's still hard to know what addons I have that doesn't get updated via CC/WAU etc
23:07.16Adirelletrying with putty, i've got "Successfully connected, but no svn command provided" so I think SSH is ok
23:07.20Gnarfozwell, that's something you'll have to keep track of yourself, anyway
23:07.35Adirelleso it is something with repo access
23:07.40ckknightAdirelle: running pageant?
23:07.43Adirelleyes
23:08.03Arrowmasterhow many keys loaded into pageant?
23:08.04Adirelleauthenticating with pageant key #0
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23:08.06Adirelleone
23:08.43Adirelleplease remember that often authentication =/= authorization
23:09.23AdirelleI could make some pastey with log if you would like to
23:09.32ckknightplease do
23:10.41KriLL3Gnarfoz: it doesn't reset the duration of spells/effects if renewed right? SBF makes the bar short of it's full length if you ever renew a spell, setting the duration manually doesn't work either :(
23:10.56sacarascwith the mode, is WAU being stopped? (and what about JWU?)
23:11.05GnarfozKriLL3: ... what
23:11.26Adirelleckknight: http://www.pastey.net/96995
23:12.11AdirelleI guess I could try to enable file logging somewhere in tortoiseplink
23:12.11leech2kIs the curse client going to make me cry?
23:12.11KriLL3Gnarfoz: SBF makes the bar less than it's full length if you ever renew the spell, say lifebloom, it lasts 6 sec, renew it a bunch of times and SBF thinks it lasts 20s+
23:12.11Gnarfozwhat the hell is SBF
23:12.21KriLL3thus when you cat it again fresh the bar is near empty when you just cast
23:12.37KriLL3"SatrinaBuffFrame"
23:13.18Gnarfozstill not getting it ^^
23:13.35Gnarfozwhy would you want your buff frames to display something that's not the case?
23:13.53KriLL3?...
23:14.26Adirelleckknight: btw, this already worked on a test project (during "open beta test")
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23:14.57fewynawe
23:15.01fewyni can’t search fisheye anymore
23:15.09fewynwill the new site have svn updates?
23:15.18fewynor a way to search the logs from the old svn?
23:16.15cladhaireso
23:16.25cladhaireI've not sold a piece of Soulbound equipment, since I hit level 60
23:16.26cladhairehttp://images.gammatester.com/pics/4dcfe9b90786a9242f28be0acbfb00be.png
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23:16.40LanerraHmmmm...so this new Curse Client goody...is it going to allow one to browse all addons available ala WAU, or will it only serve as an Updater only?
23:17.04cladhaireI wonder if I should just sell them all, since they'll be useless in wotlk
23:17.35Cryectaren't they useless now?
23:17.47ckknightAdirelle: wanna try now with svn://?
23:17.53Dashkalwell, if you don't, you certainly won't have the bag space to continue with that habit all the way through wotlk...
23:18.05LanerraHoly crap, Clad
23:18.15Adirelleckknight: svn://adirelle@newsvn.wowace.com/ ?
23:18.19ckknightyes
23:18.30Cryectcladhaire I guess never repairs! just switches to a new set of armor
23:18.40Adirelleckknight: worked
23:18.44Pneumatuscladhaire: i aways regretted DEing my T1/T2/T3
23:18.52cladhairePneumatus: well this is all shit gear, as you can see
23:18.53cladhairethe reason I did it
23:18.57ckknightAdirelle: now I gotta go through and do that for every repo
23:18.58Adirelle(except externals, but that another issue)
23:18.58cladhaireis when I leveld the first Druid to 70
23:19.05Pneumatusbut greens, i wouldnt be so attached to :)
23:19.08cladhaireI realized I sold a bunch of the best +armor items in the game for druid tanks.
23:19.13CryectAh
23:19.15cladhairebut now, all I wear is my PVP gear
23:19.23cladhaireso everything there, will like never be equipped :P
23:19.31Cryectwell druids were the only class that had quest items that were really good
23:19.31Adirelleckknight: ?
23:19.39ckknightpermissions weren't set on import
23:19.59CryectHeh remember wearing so many greens before they fixed that
23:20.09cladhaireALMOST over 1k gear score
23:20.09cladhairehttp://ravencrest-eu.warcrafter.net/Draoi
23:20.19cladhairewill be there after I get S2 shoulders
23:20.24cladhaireso as a resto druid
23:20.28Adirellethat makes sense
23:20.34cladhaireWarrior a good partner?
23:20.36LanerraAlso, will Wowace.com still be an access point, or is it going to be something like wowace.curse.com ?
23:20.42cladhaireor should I look for a rogue/warlock?
23:20.47Adirelleckknight: thanks
23:20.48fewynhttp://norgannon.warcrafter.net/fewyn
23:21.02PrimerLast night I was talking to someone in vent about priest specs, and how they seem to vary a lot
23:21.06cladhairefewyn: http://norgannon-us.warcrafter.net/fewyn you mean?
23:21.34fewynyes!
23:21.34PrimerWhich then got me to thinking: Why is it that most priest has 3/3 Improved Healing?
23:21.41netcurseLanerra, wowace.com
23:21.43fewyni r bear
23:21.45fewynhere me roar
23:22.02PrimerSurely, greater heal is NOT the bane of a disc priest! and the other 2 heals...do pvp priests even cast those? Heck, do PVE priests even cast those?
23:22.14Primerinquiring minds want to know
23:22.23LanerraCoolness, thanks :) For a second, I thought people were gonna ignore me
23:22.48PrimerI saw this one priest that could have justified having it. He pvps with the skull of guldan
23:23.06Primerwhich I presume stacks with power infusion, and if so, his greater heal must be what, 1 second?
23:23.18PrimerI wonder if heroism stacks with those too
23:24.12Primercrickets...
23:24.53Arrowmasterpriest in my guild got a <5 sec res in an arena with skull of guldan and some other stuff
23:25.30leech2kcrazy
23:25.55KriLL3kinda odd that you can res in the arena
23:26.08Primernot at all
23:26.09leech2kI have done it a couple times.
23:26.12Primersame here
23:26.16Primerin 2's no less
23:26.18leech2kOnly against bads though.
23:26.29leech2kAnd only under 1600 rating :-)
23:26.30Primermage and I had been going at it for an hour
23:26.35KriLL3Primer: well plenty of classes got repeatable CC that last long enough to res
23:26.48leech2kNah, you have to get out of combat.
23:26.48LanerraAnd the Curse Client  collects character, item, and quest information?
23:26.53Primerheh, I kept trying to res when the mage was drinking
23:27.11PrimerI actually got 3 reses off in that one fight
23:27.20leech2kpower infusion
23:27.22Primerfirst 2 times the dude took it right away...the noob
23:27.23leech2k:-)
23:27.28Primerthe last time I told him to wait
23:27.34Primeruntil my fear was up
23:27.47Primerand he has LoS on the spawn spot
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23:28.26Primerso funny, I dueled a resto druid for close to an hour last night
23:28.43leech2kI did disc preist vs disc priest for over an hour before
23:28.44Primerit was so obvious that the one who was gonna win was going to be that one that didn't have to log
23:28.46leech2kit sucked
23:29.05Primermana burn, oom, mace?
23:29.07Primerrepeat?
23:29.25leech2kmana burn until somone runs out then they just los until they regen full again
23:29.28leech2kand try it again
23:29.55Primerduring that one fight the mage had to conjure food
23:29.58Primerit went so long
23:30.01leech2klol
23:30.26leech2kI was 1v1 vs a resto druid once it was about 15 water later when I beat him.
23:30.32PrimerSo...opinions regarding Improved Healing in a disc priest's spec for 2's?
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23:30.57leech2kafter 3.0?
23:31.15Primerheh, I was confident I would have won against the resto druid I was fighting last night...has it not been going on for over an hour, and it was 2:30 AM and I had work the next day
23:31.15leech2kor now?
23:31.18Primernow
23:31.34PrimerDo you use heal or lesser heal _at all_?
23:31.35PrimerI don't
23:31.39leech2kI always use it. I have tried without, but flash heal just eats my mana to quick.
23:31.54leech2kno I do not use heal or lesser heal in pvp
23:31.55Adirelleanyone heard of a bug while trying to learn charge rank 5 from blasted land boars ?
23:32.03Primerthing is, greater heal is such a long cast
23:32.22PrimerI have used it in arena, but only when I know I won't get interrupted, and usually along with inner focus
23:32.28Primeror PI
23:33.02leech2kI play with a rogue so I use it mostly when he is in stealth, or taking consisted dps
23:33.11leech2kconsistent*
23:33.26Primeryeah, I know it's the best-bang-for-the-buck heal
23:33.27leech2kor when I want somone to wast a pummel,cs,etc on me
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23:34.12Primerwhat about Silent Resolve?
23:34.20PrimerI see so many priest put points into that
23:34.49Primerit seems futile to me. Either the opposing team has dispellers or it doesn't
23:34.51leech2kThats another spot where it is mostly preference.
23:35.01Primerthose that do will dispel, regardless of the number of times it takes
23:35.01leech2kYou either get imp shield of sr
23:35.05Primerthose that can't...won't
23:35.41leech2kFailing a dispel is 1.5 seconds they are not healing/being offensive though :-)
23:35.42PrimerI mean, last night I had a rogue tell me my spec "sucked"
23:36.21PrimerAnd he goes on to mention why, to which I rebut what I've just mentioned
23:37.02leech2kYeah, really those two talents you mentioned depend a lot on your playstyle and the groups you are facing most often.
23:37.12PrimerWhat about focused power? Is mass dispel not something I want? Perhaps not so important in 2's, but definitely in 3's and 5's
23:37.23leech2kAnd your role on your arena team :-)\
23:37.31Primerwell, I'm mostly doing 2's now
23:37.32leech2kYou MUST have focused power.
23:37.37Primersince it's the easiest
23:38.05leech2kMass Dispell really is the only reason to have a priest over a druid atm.
23:38.27Primeragain, in 3's and 5's, sure
23:38.29Primerbut 2's?
23:38.32leech2k2s for sure
23:38.52PrimerI need to build out a new spec then
23:39.22PrimerI'm pondering going with 0 points in improved healing
23:39.32leech2karenajunkies.com has pretty good preist stats, they may even talk about specs
23:39.45Primeryeah, been there
23:39.49leech2kYou could try 0 in improved healing and see how you like it
23:40.04leech2kIts not bad, I just didn't care for it :-)
23:40.13Primerconsidering that I never cast heal or lesser heal, and greater heal is usually reserved for inner focus...
23:40.23leech2kTo many warriors that keep ms up on rogue. And gheal is all the can kkep them up
23:40.36Primerpresuming you get the chance to cast it
23:40.45Primer2.4 seconds in...spell lock!
23:40.47Primerkick!
23:40.51Primerpummel!
23:41.10leech2kI just get one casting all the time when he is full. And fizzle if not needed.
23:41.10thulI hate hunters
23:41.17thulif they get the jump (and they got flares :() they win
23:41.41KriLL3anyone knows an fubar addon that gives a drop down list of transport methods? tired of having hs and moonglade port on my bars
23:41.55LanerraAlrighty...so the Curse Client will have access to Curse's addon DB and WoWAce's DB...and so a Curse Account is still required to use the client? Which means I need a WoWAce account and a Curse Account?
23:42.11ckknightwowace account = curse account
23:42.38leech2kKriLL3: Why not just use your spellbook for rarely used ports?
23:42.39LanerraSo all our settings and stuff gets transfered over?
23:42.50KriLL3leech2k: that doesn't work
23:42.53leech2kLanerra: well... sort of
23:42.56ckknightwhat do you mean by settings and stuff?
23:43.01ckknightwhich settings and which stuff?
23:43.05leech2kKriLL3: Your spell book doesn't work?
23:43.13KriLL3the hs isn't in there
23:43.40leech2kKriLL3: Of course... thats in your backpack.
23:43.45Primerleech2k: ok, last thing: Battlemaster trinket
23:43.50Primeryay or nay?
23:43.50LanerraLike profile settings
23:43.58LanerraEmail Address, signature, etc.?
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23:44.36leech2kPrimer: I use it. I have tried jc trinket, and mgt trinket. They are okay, but I liked the bm for silences.
23:44.56Primerpopping it removes silence?!
23:45.00leech2kno
23:45.05NivFreakgives you health
23:45.07NivFreakto live through it
23:45.10leech2kbut it can help u stay alive through the silence :-)
23:45.12Primeryes, I know it gives health
23:45.14NivFreakI macro mine with a healthstone if i have it ;)
23:45.22Primerbut a silence is a bit after-the-fact
23:45.57sacarasci just (accidently) killed all my addons, then I reinstalled the important ones via JWowUpdater (using the svn zips) and now it says that most of them are incompatible... anyone know why?
23:45.57Primerare not all silences instacasts?
23:46.04LanerraAnd so if we have both a Curse and WoWAce account, is that gonna cause any problems?
23:46.20ckknightby wowace account, do you mean a forum account on wowace?
23:46.28ckknightcause like, wowace has had like 3 auth systems
23:46.30LanerraYeah
23:46.31ckknightsvn, forum, wiki
23:46.33ckknightoh, and jira
23:46.36ckknightall different
23:46.36leech2kPrimer: They are all instant, but I don't get what you are asking.
23:46.37ckknight:-P
23:46.40LanerraActually, I have both Forum and Wiki
23:46.43ckknightLanerra: should merge em
23:46.47LanerraAnd a Curse account
23:46.50Primerleech2k: ok, my bad
23:46.53ckknighthopefully
23:46.54PrimerI see what you mean
23:46.55LanerraOh, groovy, so no hang ups?
23:47.01ckknighthopefully.
23:47.13PrimerI had it in my head that you couldn't activate the trinket/use a HS when silenced...duh
23:47.16PrimerI'm not with it today
23:47.27leech2kI see
23:47.28Primerwent to sleep too late...damn druid!
23:47.38ckknightbah
23:47.42leech2kMy rogue took a break, I will never get my weapon/shoulders now :-(
23:47.43ckknightthis forum import is not gonna finish tonight
23:47.55PrimerI'm no where NEAR that kind of rating
23:48.01PrimerI'll be happy to get a S4 ring!
23:48.09leech2kI am stuck around 1800
23:48.29PrimerI'd love to upgrade my S1 helm :)
23:48.39leech2kI never really play more thatn 20 games a week though. Could be my problem.
23:49.02Primerspeaking of helm...meta gem...stun resist, or healing?
23:49.03LanerraThat bad, huh, CK?
23:49.12leech2konly one choice for meta atm
23:49.23Primerwell, I've been "pugging" arenas on both my 70s for a long time now
23:49.34leech2kIED
23:49.35Primerjust 10 games a week on random teams
23:49.48LanerraImprovised Explosive Device?
23:49.54leech2klol
23:49.57PrimerImprovised Explosive Device?
23:50.01leech2kInsightful Earthstorm Diamond
23:50.06Primerand that one is...?
23:50.10Primermp5?
23:50.11Primererr
23:50.14Primerfree mana?
23:50.20leech2k12 int restore mana
23:50.28leech2kfree 300 mana every min or so
23:50.34Primerthat is one of my biggest problems...oom
23:50.52leech2kdrink more :-)
23:51.03Primernot easily done in 2's
23:51.08leech2kit is
23:51.12Primerwhich I seem to play on mostly
23:51.12leech2kjust gave to wough. Could be my problem.
23:51.30leech2kwhoops
23:51.39leech2kyour dps needs to get u a break :-)
23:51.42leech2kkill pets
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23:52.56Primerduring this one fight we killed this hunter's pet like 10 times
23:53.12Primerwe were unable to interrupt him summoning another pet
23:53.14leech2ku failed then
23:53.19Primerunless we used fear
23:53.20leech2ku need to mana drain him
23:53.26leech2kso he can't resummon
23:53.42Primeryeah, I'm still learning these things
23:53.51Primerlearned a lot from dueling last night
23:53.56leech2knever let him get 2k mana back
23:54.09Primerdueled a hunter, expecting to lose, and I wiped the floor with him
23:54.28leech2kI have not lost a duel this xpack with my priest :-)
23:54.42leech2kdisc + resil can take pretty much everying
23:54.50leech2klocks are the only hard fights
23:54.53leech2kwell and other healers
23:54.55Primerthat's another thing, I need better gear
23:55.06PrimerI only have 440 resil, and 1870 heals
23:55.13leech2kumm... that fine
23:55.24Primermp5 is total ass, but not so bad that I wasn't able to maintain mana fighting that druid
23:55.28leech2ku will want ~494 resils and 1500+ healing is fine
23:55.37leech2kmp5 is always bad in pvp gear
23:55.44Primerof course, 12 shadow fiends helped
23:55.49leech2klol
23:55.51LanerraSo, where can I see all the perks of having a premium membership with Curse?
23:56.07Primerand stopping to drink + shadowmeld
23:56.22Primerleech2k: May I inspect your toon on armory? URL?
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23:56.39leech2kI logged in pve gear
23:56.53Primerhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gorgonnash&n=Ihavenoidea
23:56.54Primermine
23:57.14leech2khttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kil%27jaeden&n=Ratchet
23:57.52PrimerI definitely got you beat in raid gear
23:58.02leech2kI only did 10 mans this xpack :-)
23:58.05Adirellenight
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23:58.15PrimerI've gone 4/9 BT so far
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23:58.42leech2kI did the raid guild thing from release and well.. I didn't have enough time to pvp and play with my casual friends :-)
23:59.02Primerwell, I only do 1 raid per week
23:59.10Primer2 nights a week
23:59.28Primerusually we were doing 4/5 Hyjal the first night, then 4/9 BT the next
23:59.37PrimerNow, with the expansion coming, no one wants to raid
23:59.56NivFreakWe're just getting illy into p3
23:59.59Primerso we're lucky to get 4/5 Hyjal in 2 nights, since the raids invariably start late, if at all

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