IRC log for #wowace on 20080926

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00:02.27whatsinthenamewhat part of ace contains code for /dump?
00:02.45ckknightmy guess the console part
00:10.48thulhttp://fc43.deviantart.com/fs36/i/2008/269/8/1/Sing_a_song_for_me__by_cainadamsson.jpg <- portrait of the day
00:12.58Hjaltethul: Your portrait of the day needs more girls.
00:13.08thulpfft :-P
00:13.16thulit has a girl
00:13.23thulbehind the guitar:p
00:13.35HjalteMoar!
00:17.15Repo10libshare-10: 03ckknight 06ckknights-clone * 1.0-1-g03ff244 .pkgmeta: Add another newline to .pkgmeta
00:18.41NeoTronso the mammoth mount apparently has repair and reagent vendors
00:18.56Repo10libshare-10: 03ckknight 06ckknights-clone * 1.0-2-g0233c6c license.txt: fake commit
00:19.29ckknightYssaril: well, I'm having the same issue
00:19.36ckknightso time to throw a shitload of debug statements in
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00:22.27NivFreakso has anyone seen math on spell hit cap in wrath yet?
00:23.42NeoTronnegatory
00:24.33Repo10libshare-10: 03ckknight 06ckknights-clone * 1.0-4-g19be29c license.txt: fake commit
00:25.13NivFreakthe DK faq references 17% hit
00:26.24NeoTronit'd kind of suck for a 2h DK to get 17% spell hit
00:26.28NeoTronrather it won't happen
00:27.48DashkalIt mentiones right below that that virulence + a hit buff from the raid is enough to make up the difference
00:27.58DashkalIf that's correct, it shouldn't be an issue
00:29.29NeoTronthe +hit raid buffs is all +hit is it not? or just spell hit?
00:29.37NeoTronbut a blood dps build won't have virulence anyway
00:29.41NeoTronnot enough points
00:30.00NeoTronof course the amount of spells used, especially on single target bosses, is quite limited
00:30.16DashkalNeoTron: It may be worth it to _find_ those points if you're going to lose damage to misses
00:31.00DashkalThe spec you linked earlier is sinking talent points into talents that enhance spells
00:31.41DashkalMaking the question one of if it's better to get virulence or those spell talents for spell DPS
00:32.10NeoTronthere isn't any points to find
00:32.12NeoTronseriously
00:32.29NeoTron6 seconds longer diseases > 3% spell hit
00:32.41NeoTronbeing able to use obliterate at will > 3% spell hit
00:32.50NeoTronsummoning a leet sword to fight with you > 3% spell hit
00:33.01NivFreakmy locks are worried, they are on the PTR trying to find a raid spec for when 3.0 hits
00:33.03NeoTronso there simply is no such option
00:33.11NivFreakand the only things they have turned up with decent dmg are pet specs
00:33.17NeoTronNivFreak: likely stick as shadow destro
00:33.22NivFreakand apparently people are saying BT is pretty much a non-starter for pets
00:33.26NeoTronand yes the point is using pets
00:33.30NeoTronadn with 80% avoidance that is not true
00:33.35NeoTronI also used felguard up until council
00:33.47NivFreakthat's just PTR feedback, I know plenty of QQ is in
00:33.51Dashkal6 second longer diseases < 3% spell hit.  Get expertise capped so you don't miss diseases and they'll stay up 100%
00:33.53NeoTroncouncil made me change but 3.0 pets are lot better
00:34.05NeoTronit's not about missing diseases
00:34.13NivFreakwell, the imp specificly
00:34.17DashkalRotation is 10 seconds, diseases are 12...
00:34.19NeoTronit's about having more time to use damage skills
00:34.34NeoTronextended diseases means you only need to use them every other rotation
00:34.48NivFreakNeoTron: do you have VST?
00:34.56NeoTronyes
00:35.03NivFreaknone of my locks do
00:35.04NeoTronthat was t5 bonus + trinket
00:35.07NivFreakwe've never seen it drop
00:35.09DashkalThen you're going to have to either put more hit on than your melee needs or accept that icy touch will fail to apply from time to time
00:35.10NeoTronbut that won't be needed post 3.0
00:35.14NeoTron80% damage reduction is a lot
00:35.22NeoTronplus you wouldn't have soul link going
00:35.25NivFreakpeople are saying that destro spec + imp isn't working
00:35.33NivFreakthe imp is just getting obliterated
00:35.40NeoTronI think they are wrong
00:35.46NeoTronit might take a bit to get used to
00:35.51NeoTronand you need some group healers
00:35.58NeoTronchain heal or CoH for example
00:36.06NivFreakit'd be nice to hear real feedback from non-failing locks
00:36.58NivFreakNeoTron: you're done raiding until wrath?
00:37.31NeoTronyep
00:37.37NeoTronexcept possibly some kara/za type raiding
00:37.48NeoTronone thing that makes melee vs spell hit a bit better
00:37.56NeoTronyou still need less spell hit raiting per percent than melee
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00:52.36Yssarilif you add something to the games item cache by making a tooltip using the itemlink how long does the info stay in the cache andis there s limit to the cache?
00:54.44durcynYssaril: local or server?
00:54.50Yssarillocal
00:55.15durcynactually i believe they're both valid until next reboot
00:56.24Yssarilk so if i pull in all links that i want and make sure i have added them all than afterwards adding thir tooltip to my tooltip scanner will make the tooltip instantl scannable right?
00:56.44Yssarilat least till i log out of the game
00:57.55thulcanon annoys me highly
01:02.28Zyndromederp
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01:09.01NivFreakhave any of you guys done the maylgos raid on beta yet?
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01:16.36whatsinthenameis # not supposed to work on nested tables?
01:17.09whatsinthenamea = { b={}, c={} }....#a should return 2 right?
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01:18.55ckknightit should return 0
01:19.13ckknightthe nesting doesn't mean anything
01:19.23ckknight# works on numeric keys, a.k.a. indexes
01:19.49whatsinthenamethanx ck
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01:21.53Krittickdoes anyone know of an addon that will track the amount of damage my ice barrier/fire ward/frost ward/mana shield has left to absorb?
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01:34.36DashkalSo after reading it looks like I should skip heart strike this patch?
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02:02.21Antiarchttp://www.searchenginerapbattle.com/
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02:27.58Groktarhttp://www.theforum.com/photos/data/859/skills_i_has_dim.jpg
02:27.59Groktarlol
02:34.09NivFreakptr down?
02:34.33NivFreakoh
02:34.34NivFreakreboots
02:34.41NivFreakI'm guessing PTR too
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02:49.14NivFreaksigh
02:49.26NivFreaksounds like glyph of resonating power got nerfed before it even made it in
02:49.34NivFreakI wonder if they are just going to buff TC
02:50.21Groktarthey said they won't
02:50.34Groktari don't think they know what they want to do with warrior aoe tanking
02:51.06Groktarthey said that they don't want tc to generate enough threat to be in a normal rotation
03:00.32NivFreakwell, I'm fine with it being my rotation for aoe tanking
03:00.44NivFreakbut yes, I don't want it to be more than a SS or devastate
03:01.01NivFreakI don't think we have that problem currently
03:01.20Groktarit was going that direction before they nerfed imp tc
03:01.33NivFreakthat said, the idea of getting an increase past 4 targets for TC... I will probably do anything I can to obtain that
03:01.37NivFreakbe it 6 targets, be it 8
03:01.51Groktarwarriors are still woefully inadequate aoe tanks
03:01.59NivFreakI'm actually ok with that
03:02.12NivFreakI don't want ezmode aoe tanking
03:02.18NivFreakthat's part of why I find my pally boring
03:02.22NivFreakit's not engaging
03:02.26Groktari don't see the point in bringing a warrior tank anymore
03:02.36NivFreakwe still have a lot more tools ;)
03:02.47NivFreakbut yes, prot paladins in wrath are pretty amazing
03:03.01NivFreakthey eliminated the majority of their weaknesses
03:03.15kenlyrica lot of blue, signifying nothing
03:03.25NivFreakthe warrior feedback? :P
03:03.31Groktarwarriors and paladins are so similar in terms of mitgation now
03:03.32NivFreakyea, that was sort of a waste
03:03.48Groktarvery similar single target threat and health pool
03:03.54NivFreakGroktar: I thought our avoidance was still generally higher
03:04.01Groktarand they just blow warriors away on multiple mob pulls
03:04.06NivFreakand druids
03:04.08Groktarwhy would it be higher?
03:04.09NivFreakand DKs afaik
03:04.28Groktaryou're talking a couple percent at most
03:04.28NivFreakwell, our avoidance when properly spec'd was higher wasn't it?
03:04.37NivFreaksure, they want everyone evenish
03:05.28Groktarthen they need to give everyone else evenish aoe tanking
03:05.29Yssarilinteresting question for you guys if you pickup a brand new quest  will its link tooltip be cached when you get the quest or will it cache it when you actually try to use the link?
03:06.01NivFreakGroktar: I'd much rather just have a better defined niche personally
03:06.10Groktarbut they don't want niches
03:06.12NivFreakI rolled a prot warrior because I wanted the role they filled
03:06.17NivFreakso I'm sad to see it go
03:06.26NivFreakI sacraficed a lot to do it
03:06.33NivFreakI've leveled as prot
03:06.36Groktarthey've specifically said they're not going to have any encounters to prop up warriors
03:06.42Groktarie p2 souls
03:06.49NivFreakyea, but they will :P
03:06.58NivFreakthey are good about saying one thing, and doing another
03:07.03NivFreakthey might start that way
03:07.06NivFreakbut it'll get boring
03:07.11NivFreakand they will run out of idaes
03:07.12NivFreakideas
03:07.32NivFreakI'm actually more concerned for my feral brothers than I am warriors
03:07.41Groktarferal druids need lots of help
03:07.41NivFreakI'm not really sure what they have left for a niche
03:07.49NivFreakpaladins are pretty much on top atm
03:07.51Groktarat least in terms of aoe tankings
03:08.25NivFreakbut honestly
03:08.31Groktarthey need to either nerf paladins drastically or bring everyone up
03:08.35NivFreakI hope they never design an encounter like hyjal again
03:08.35Groktarand i'm in favor of the latter
03:08.55NivFreakI'd rather see them just make aoe tanking a gimmic past what a warrior can do
03:09.07NivFreakwhich means, buff TC to 6 or 8 targets
03:09.11Groktari think bringing back bloodbath would be enough
03:09.11NivFreakgive druids a method to do it
03:09.18NivFreakand design nothing to benefit from more than that
03:09.26NivFreakbbiab, gotta put the kid to bed
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04:41.21NeffiThe GeForce 260 core 216 is more powerful than a 9800 GTX+, right?
04:52.45CodayusNeffi: http://www.dansdata.com/askdan00034.htm
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04:54.09CodayusHmm, actually, that doesn't directly answer your question.  Sorry.  :-(
04:56.35CodayusAh, right, the answer actually is...  the GTX 260 should be faster than a 9800 GTX +.
04:56.39Codayushttp://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4870,1964-7.html
04:57.42Fisker-You should get the new HD4870
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07:45.53IkzDoes anyone know if aguf_Sheeper still works?
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08:29.29IkzArrgh. This is frustrating.
08:29.58IkzOnly Pitbull seems to have the customization I pine for, but it has a bug that's never been fixed.
08:42.04IkzDoes anyone know how to make AG_UnitFrames use 2D Portraits?
08:55.46digmouseomg Typhoonkin hotfixed?
08:56.37Maldiviahotfixed - as in rank 5 is 0 damage now :)
08:56.43Maldiviait's still spamable :9
08:57.34Maldiviathink the 5-manning of 25-man obsidian triggered it :)
09:00.47IkzI really wish someone would fix Pitbull and make it work right when changing targets. I hate when it bugs out D:
09:01.25digmouseMaldivia:...
09:04.39pb_ee1Ikz: Ask ckknigh_t ;)
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09:15.12charonapart from the mouseover frame, it has never bugged for me... and the mouseover seems to have trouble mostly with Grid, no idea why they hate each other
09:16.27Maldiviadigmouse: yeah?
09:17.13digmouseMaldivia: ... nothing, they did things *fast*
09:17.40Maldiviadigmouse: obsidian was fun though :9
09:18.11digmousehavent tried it, busy doing all quests in DB to unlock Wrathgate questline
09:19.20Maldiviadigmouse: 3 typhoon-druids at 150k dps :)
09:19.47Maldiviadigmouse: and paladin to bop and warrior to taunt and shield wall :)
09:20.11digmouseTyphoonkin is history!
09:20.20MaldiviaI know
09:20.29Maldiviabut was still fun
09:21.09Maldiviabut glad they hotfixed it :9
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09:23.33digmouseat least I wont get typhooned in 1sec
09:23.43digmouseand I cant typhoon others in 1sec
09:27.04Maldiviawas fun to use in pve - boring in pvp :9
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09:52.38[SW]Dodge~seen adirelle
09:52.41purladirelle <n=adirelle@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 16h 46m 55s ago, saying: 'btw, Tamaroth, "if toggle == true then" is redundant, just use "if toggle then"'.
09:52.44[SW]Dodgeq.q
10:00.19Brunersis there some kind of trinket bar addon? that shows trinket equiped and clickable
10:01.32Maldiviajust make two macros... #showtooltip 13  /use 13  for top trinket, and 14 for bottom trinket
10:01.53Maldiviabut yeah added exists for that aswell
10:02.19Brunersill test with macro first
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10:03.32Brunersthat was perfect, thanks
10:03.54Brunerswhy didnt i think about that
10:04.05theoddone33hm, playing the beta with default ui on has got me considering slimming down the number of mods I use
10:04.07theoddone33:(
10:05.27Brunerstheres no addons that works for beta?
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10:08.21Lukiansome do, some don't :p
10:09.14[SW]Dodgemy does :D
10:10.55theoddone33I just haven't installed any
10:10.58theoddone33I'm sure there are lots that work
10:14.48Brunersis it just my pt3bar that dont remember color settings from buttonfasade?
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10:47.38Trell_so...I gave in and installed Bejeweled for WoW.
10:47.49Trell_and the sick thing is...it's pretty slick.
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10:50.47theoddone33I'm sad that fingers of frost is "bugged"
10:51.00theoddone33it says only frost spells eat the charges but of course what it means is that all spells do
10:51.55theoddone33I'm not convinced it will get fixed before 3.0 goes live
10:53.17theoddone33other than that I really love 3.0 frost mage
10:54.29[SW]DodgeTrell_: whoot? need bejeweled! link plx! :D
10:54.52Maldiviahttp://www7.popcap.com/promos/wow/
10:55.19theoddone33how is it done?
10:55.21theoddone33lua I assume
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10:55.35[SW]Dodgeyea lua what else? ^^
10:55.41[SW]Dodgebrb miranda restart <.<
10:55.44theoddone33some special thing from blizzard
10:59.24Trell_lol@the bejeweled achievements
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11:06.21orionshock...
11:06.33orionshockI thought that ya'll got Omen removed from WoWMatrix?
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11:09.18Nechcknlol, does anything ever "stay" removed from that, orionshock?
11:09.28orionshockit better the FK
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11:10.26orionshocki got both my addons removed. in less than 5 hrs too
11:10.27Trell_thats embrassing, it announces to your guild when you 'skill up'.
11:10.33[SW]Dodgehaha lol@capcom: Message: ..\AddOns\Bejeweled\Bejeweled.lua line 825: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'n' (a string value
11:11.00[SW]Dodgepopcap*
11:11.01Trell_mine installed fine, ben playing it for the past 15m or so
11:11.21[SW]Dodgeinstalled fine, startet infight and tehn error :D
11:13.18Nechcknorionshock how did you send the request- email to their general address?
11:13.40orionshockthe "Contact us" link at the bottom
11:14.12Nechcknah... will look into that again- ty
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11:14.23orionshockit took 3 emails but worked
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11:26.57theoddone33hm, kind of looking forward to trying this level 70 instance in wotlk
11:27.03theoddone33not sure I'll ever get a group though, h eh
11:27.25IkzSo what's a good, up to date buffs addon that has filters and has an option to use icons?
11:30.43ArcharodimWhat's up with the mouseover unitid in current WotLK build?
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11:33.09theoddone33deep freeze doesn't appear to consume fingers of frost charges
11:33.29theoddone33not sure if that's intentional or not but hmm!
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11:34.39IkzFingers of Frost is being consumed by other things that shouldn't be consuming, though, so take that with a grain of salt
11:35.07theoddone33I know
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11:41.47theoddone33any ideas on whether inscription is worth dropping tailoring for?
11:42.06IkzDepends on your class
11:42.12theoddone33mage
11:42.18IkzDo you pvp or pve more
11:42.27theoddone33probably pvp
11:42.30Elkanodepends on what exactly the inscripton-only bonuses will be I think
11:42.44IkzInscription only bonus is an extra major glyph
11:42.50Maldiviatailors have some nice self-only-enchants, and the flying carpets
11:43.01theoddone33oh that's right
11:43.07Maldiviainscription also have the epic off-hand items for casters
11:43.08theoddone33I recall reading about the tailoring self-only things
11:43.08IkzI would personally go inscription over tailoring as a mage.
11:43.21Ikzfor pvp anyway
11:43.26Maldiviainscription have self-only shoulder enchants
11:43.39IkzDo they? Didn't know that.
11:44.10Maldiviayeah - some really nice enchants aswell :9
11:44.17theoddone33in any case I'm guessing the tailoring gear will be outdated fairly quickly for pve
11:44.20IkzAnyway - probably inscription
11:44.32theoddone33where fairly quickly for TBC was.... 6-8 months?
11:44.36MaldiviaIkz: http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?search=Master%27s+Inscription <-- for the inscription shoulder enchants
11:45.47IkzI'm enchanting/engineering atm but I'll probably be inscription/engineering
11:45.57IkzAlchemy is pretty tempting though, with the new 'endless' potions that can be used in arena
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11:47.31IkzNo way in hell I'm ditching engineering, especially since adamantite grenades are going to be awesome in BG's. No one will bother farming adamantite anymore so a quick run is cake.
11:47.44IkzThey work up to level 80
11:47.57IkzIt'll be like having iron grenades again
11:48.40theoddone33"Your Polymorph spell also removes all damage over time effects from the target" heh!
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11:49.13IkzIt might be a necessary glyph with the new 'brain freeze'
11:49.21IkzInstant fireballs can foil a switch in pvp
11:49.46theoddone33I hope it doesn't take over the spot of important glyphs like penguin or  bear cub polymorph
11:50.21IkzI think the new polymorph spells aren't going to be glyphs after all
11:50.42IkzIcy veins removing snares sound pretty sexy though
11:51.29theoddone33hah
11:51.37theoddone33certificate of ownership: allows you to rename your pet
11:52.51Ikzhunter item
11:54.04theoddone33ah, good
11:54.12theoddone33inscription has a sort of "discovery" mechanism
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11:56.54Ikzwhy are all the buff addons bars? I want an icon buff addon..
11:58.55orionshockMaldivia: my friend.... any progress?
12:02.39Trell_Ikz; Buffalo?
12:03.04Trell_thats what I use - icons, not bars.
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15:09.19IkzNow see, PVP objectives could go down there too , but it would require me to make the zone map a lot smaller to fit it, and then basically nothing's solved.
15:09.28ShaneSvellerYup.
15:10.12digmouse1% RoS!
15:10.19genetik-I would get rid of a couple columns worth of action buttons, thus allowing you to add something bigger to that blank space
15:10.38Stanzilladigmouse: kill it
15:10.39genetik-or scale the action bars down a bit
15:10.40IkzI have this thing to where I like things to be asymetrical. That would drive me crazy.
15:11.45IkzHey, I know
15:12.02digmousewe had only 24 ppl in P3
15:12.13IkzPerhaps incredibly miniature party frames, about the size of default raid window docks.
15:12.21digmouseso if at 25man it definitely a kill
15:12.25IkzHmm.
15:12.48IkzThey would be supplementary, which I'm going to have to do anyway since I'm going to be using two UF addons.
15:13.00IkzIt'd be nice to have an extra set of party frames next to my proximo window
15:13.22genetik-why do you need more than one set of party frames?
15:13.23ShaneSvellerIkz: something like grid for debuffs? ack, that's still aimed at pve, nm.
15:14.12Ikzgenetik: PVP is pretty hectic, it would help.
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15:15.59IkzHmm.
15:18.03IkzStill, absolutely  nothing there when I'm  not in a party.
15:18.15genetik-i still think you should try taking out a few columns worth of action buttons.. or scale them down a bit
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15:18.41genetik-reposition the bars as necessary after that
15:18.57IkzEven if I did I wouldn't know what to put there.
15:19.10IkzTo be honest it's not really a convenient spot for anything.
15:19.18syerenSo don't put anything there.
15:19.26syerenJust because you have space doesn't mean you have to fill it.
15:19.44IkzProbably what I'm going to end up doing, sy.
15:19.46AckisWorkhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=15073.0
15:21.13syerenIkz.
15:21.14syerenhttp://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot092608161624td6.jpg
15:21.22syerenIs my current UI which I do a lot of arena with :p
15:22.00syerenAbove the focus target is the focus castbar, and on the opposite side of the screen is the target cast bar :p
15:22.12IkzI actually have a similiar UI, I'm switching FROM something like that to something more like I used to use, one sec
15:25.12Ikzhttp://img254.imageshack.us/img254/7083/wowscrnshot090508191016kc4.jpg
15:25.20IkzThat's what I'm switching from
15:25.36IkzDifferent sized buttons seemed like a good idea, but they're really not..
15:28.58Ikzhttp://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4229/funinironforgela9.jpg And this is the old interface I used.
15:29.43cladhairewhoa
15:29.57KolieWobin: ping.
15:29.59cladhairewhy do you need that many buttons?
15:30.13IkzI liked having all my buttons visible for frapsing since you can see what I'm hitting and when, but ultimately it was too much, so I got rid of the black space and bound most of my buttons in a button window I keep off screen
15:30.16WobinKolie: yo
15:30.34KolieDid you get an error updating yesterday?
15:30.46IkzBut there were advantages to the black space and I think it's worth getting back.
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15:32.21IkzWhich, is why I'm working on this new interface, which is a shadow of my old interface, but I'm trying some new things.
15:33.06IkzOh and on that old interface I clicked on my buffs, so the second row is rank 1's.. but I don't do that anymore, now everything is keybound.
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15:34.45Quaiche|workckknight or Kaelten: I couldn't find this on the beta site... but if I already have CF projects going, will the imported ones show up in CF, in the new WowAce CF, or in both.
15:35.03Kaeltenthey'll be duped temporarily
15:35.06IkzI'll really miss having a combat log up all the time.
15:35.17Kaeltenyou'll be able to merge themt ogather
15:35.20Quaiche|workTruly duped or just showing up in both places?
15:35.23ckknightthey'll be duped, you can then merge em pretty easily, though
15:35.32ckknighttwo separate projects until you merge
15:35.50nevcairielSomehow i think both of you answered the wrong question =P
15:35.58Quaiche|workI think you misunderstand. I don't have dupes of Ace project sin my CF.
15:36.03Quaiche|workI have other CF Projects
15:36.09nevcairielImported projects will only show up on wowace
15:36.09Quaiche|workWhere will my Ace projects go?
15:36.15Quaiche|workI want them on CD
15:36.16Quaiche|workCF
15:36.20Quaiche|workHow do I arrange that?
15:36.25ShaneSvellerp3lim: I'm digging your keybinds in the forum thread, I had looked at oBindings but didn't really grasp it from Haste's layout, thanks. (i play a feral)
15:36.28ckknightask an admin, Quaiche|work
15:36.30Quaiche|workkk
15:36.37p3limShaneSveller: Yw
15:36.39ckknightit's a three-click process for us
15:36.45nevcairielckknight: i think i missed the move button yet, or only for you two super admins? =P
15:37.02ckknightnevcairiel: just superusers
15:37.06ckknightfor now...
15:38.11nevcairielso, whats the state of happening today?
15:38.17Quaiche|workHow do the migration dates look right now? Still heading for next week?
15:38.19ckknightcurse.com is launching pretty soon
15:38.25Quaiche|work(LOL.. nevcairiel and I are thinking alike)
15:38.26ckknightQuaiche|work: Monday's what we're looking at
15:38.27nevcairieli thought it already did
15:38.43ckknightnevcairiel: by pretty soon, I mean like within a few hours
15:38.46ckknightneed advice on http://www.curseforge.com/knowledge-base/what-to-do-after-creating-a-project/
15:39.06nevcairielSomehow the curse page started to look different yesterday
15:39.13AckisWorknevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=15073.0 :P
15:39.15nevcairielso i thought it launched =P
15:39.37Quaiche|workyay ckknight ! you close my ticket once that page is done. :)
15:39.49ckknightgimmeh advice on the page, Quaiche|work
15:39.56Quaiche|workadingnow
15:40.08Quaiche|work(damn kybard)
15:40.10nevcairielAckisWork: why do you set your defaults twice anyway?
15:40.13IkzJeez I can't even change the font in ag_UF. Ugh.
15:40.30AckisWorknevcairiel: I didn't think I was
15:40.39nevcairielyour :New line has a defaults table
15:40.41nevcairieland you call it
15:41.00nevcairielalso you cant really use "char" as a default profile
15:41.07nevcairielit'll be one profile named "char"
15:41.11nevcairielnot the character profile
15:41.27nevcairielchar is default anyway, just leave it out
15:41.50AckisWorkahh, legacy from a tutorial I read, the default = nil and I've changed the code with my current release so that my db is created like: self.db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("ARLDB")
15:42.05Quaiche|workckknight: I think you should just go ahead and walk people though setting up svn in the "what's next" page
15:42.14Quaiche|workinstead of pointing them to the FAQ
15:42.24ckknightQuaiche|work: but the FAQ has all the data
15:42.28ckknightI'm not duplicating.
15:42.30AckisWorkI was reading the docs but couldn't find anything identifying why profile data isn't saving
15:42.32nevcairielI dont see why dashes in the name should matter
15:42.41digmouseRoS FD
15:42.46nevcairielunless its a WoW bug
15:42.50digmousewith only 5 left
15:42.53Quaiche|workckknight: okay, you wanted feedback.
15:43.01Quaiche|workThe other page isn't set like a tutorial
15:43.07Quaiche|workthis one is
15:48.45Quaiche|workckknight: at the end, link into the tagging/releasing faq
15:48.54Quaiche|workSince this is just a link doc
15:49.29ckknightwhich page are you talking about?
15:54.05p3limIsnt there something in the middle of THINOUTLINE and THICKOUTLINE? :/
15:56.05Elkanosends out some free hugs... http://blip.tv/file/1061088
15:57.45IkzThis is a nightmare, there's no way to move Xperl frames unless I have the giant options window open? Seriously?
16:01.40Shane|afkIkz: ew, Xperl
16:01.47IkzI'm running out of options
16:01.49genetik-makes sense to me.  i can't think of a reason why i'd want to move a unit frame unless i was configuring it
16:02.21IkzThe options window is massive
16:02.26IkzIt takes up most of the screen
16:02.42genetik-if it can't be resized, that's just one more strike against xperl in my opinion
16:02.42genetik-heh
16:03.07IkzIt can't be resized.
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16:03.20IkzNot that you'd want it to since it uses probably the worst downscaling font in the universe
16:03.21whatsinthenamehello all
16:04.33IkzWell screw it, I'll just use the default blizzard frame for targeting and Pitbull everything else.
16:04.57whatsinthenameis it possible to register multiple call backs to the same event by one addon?
16:05.50Shane|afkwhatsinthename: so as to execute multiple functions from one event?
16:06.50whatsinthenameyeah exactly
16:07.16Shane|afkyou don't want to just use a master function to call the rest sequentially?
16:08.14whatsinthenamei can do that, however if i can register mutiple functions it will e a lot easier
16:11.02Arrowmasteryou can only have one OnEnent for each frame, so no thats not possible for blizzard events
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16:16.45ckknightyou can do it with haxx
16:17.19Josh_BorkeHookScript
16:17.40Arrowmasterdirty ugly hax
16:17.45Arrowmasterand slow too
16:18.21Groktarhax Arrowmaster's code
16:18.53Josh_Borkef:SetScript("OnEvent", function(f, event, ...) for key, func in pairs(f.event.callbacks) do func(f, event, ...) end end)
16:18.56Josh_Borkeugly hax
16:19.09digmousehow much shadow res unbuffed is enough for a 1st mother attempt?
16:19.36Groktari'd try to get 250 for everyone
16:19.51Arrowmasterdigmouse: try to get 3 or 4 of the 5 crafted items, a lot of people dont make the pants i think
16:20.11digmouseuh seems we are enough, everyone get 4 crafted and the necklace
16:20.13Groktarmy guild did 10-15 man farming groups for hearts
16:20.23digmouseso 315 unbuffed for almost
16:20.42Groktarseems like that should be 260ish
16:20.44Arrowmaster315 unbuffed is more than enough
16:20.51Groktarya, 295 is max
16:21.23Groktarpeople can put the SR enchant on spare helms, too
16:21.24digmouseok then maybe we'll get people wearing 3 crafted and necklace
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16:21.36Groktarno, wear 4+neck if you have it
16:21.57Groktari'm pretty sure that isn't 315
16:22.03Arrowmasteri have all 5+neck+shadow prot and im 5 over the cap
16:22.17Groktarya
16:22.25Groktarno way is 4+neck over the cap tho
16:22.28Arrowmasterand thats what i use for tanking illidan
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16:22.43Arrowmasterno SR enchant on cloak and no helm enchant
16:23.12Arrowmasteri think i actually put -20 resist on my SR cloak
16:24.03digmouseoh 4+neck is 238 only
16:24.28Groktar:)
16:24.35Groktarget sr enchants on helms and you'll be golden
16:24.47Groktarand legs for people w/o necks
16:25.08digmousemost ones have neck
16:25.22Arrowmasterwell off to class
16:25.26Groktarlater
16:25.45Groktar238 is going to be troublesome
16:25.52Groktarif that's what the whole raid is sitting at
16:26.06digmousecrafted 4+ neck that is 238
16:26.11Groktaryes
16:26.23digmousewith buff it should be around 320-330
16:26.30Groktaryes, i can add
16:26.45digmouse330 buffed is not enough?
16:26.50Groktarand you can't, because 238 + sr buff = 308
16:27.15Groktareveryone should be aiming for at least 260 unbuffed
16:27.16digmouseand mark of wild
16:27.20Groktardoesn't stack
16:27.26digmouseo.O
16:27.40Groktarbut it's fine
16:27.44digmouseso SR helm enchant is needed
16:27.48Groktarya
16:27.55Groktarmost people should have extra helms
16:28.11Groktarit's only 90g, so w/e
16:28.44digmousethat 258 unbuffed
16:28.54Groktarya
16:29.03digmouseenough?
16:29.09Jagannath365 is the cap right?
16:29.14Groktaryes Jagannath
16:29.25digmouse258+70 = 328 seems safe
16:29.32JagannathWhat pieces of the SR gear do you have digmouse?
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16:29.52digmouseme? 4 pcs crafted, necklace
16:30.03Groktaris at 280 with 5 pieces, enchant, no neck
16:30.08JagannathSo, all but legs?
16:30.18digmouseand SR helm in my pocket
16:30.22digmouseye right
16:30.59JagannathAre you a dps or healer or tank..?
16:31.05digmousei can craft leg but that wouldnt be a too much stat sacrifice?
16:31.11digmouseJagannath: hunter
16:31.24JagannathWell the fight is very easy.
16:31.25JagannathVERY
16:31.31Groktar^
16:31.36Groktarit's mostly just an SR check
16:31.44JagannathWhen my guild first downed her, we 1 shot her and it was like free t6.
16:31.47digmouseour crafter is busy crafting SR gears now
16:31.52digmousein front of me
16:31.53JagannathAll the SR is, is a cock block for progression.
16:31.54Jagannath=p
16:32.14digmousealmost everyone has 4pcs+necklace
16:32.19digmouseand SR helm is easy
16:32.37digmouseso besides tanks everyone 258 unbuffed at least
16:32.49JagannathIf everyone get 4 pieces + neck + SR enchants on their pieces it might be enough for your first attempts =p
16:32.56JagannathHow many tanks do you have?
16:33.12digmouse2 prot pally 1 or 2 prot warrior
16:33.17digmouseno bear
16:33.22Jagannath^ =p
16:33.32digmouseworring about DPS
16:33.41JagannathWell it's a 3 tank fight.
16:33.47JagannathWarrior MT, imo. 2 OT's
16:33.57digmouseour tanks are good:D
16:33.58JagannathMT doesn't wear SR gear at all, only the OT's
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16:34.30digmousewith some new people we had a 5:10 Gorefiend last night and a 9:10 RoS with only 5 alive
16:34.43JagannathLmao.
16:34.43Groktarand OTs don't *need* sr, but you can get some gibs
16:34.44JagannathNice.
16:34.49digmouseRoS FD tonight
16:35.03JagannathWell they certainly can't be wearing 0 SR gear/
16:35.05Groktar9:10 seems a bit long for ros
16:35.10Jagannath-/ +. =p
16:35.20Groktaryou certainly *can* do it with 0 sr
16:35.27JagannathFirst attempts though?
16:35.30Groktargrins
16:35.32JagannathRaid isn't resist capped :o
16:35.47JagannathI smell a Wipe Fest =p
16:35.53digmouseRoS downed in 3 nights
16:35.53Groktari wasn't really suggesting they do it with 0sr on the offtanks
16:36.02JagannathHehe.
16:36.19digmouseour mages, lock and rogues are bad in DPS
16:37.08digmousehunters are the first 3 everytime
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16:38.24Gaurongwell warlock dps is hard
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16:38.53Stanzillaone button spamming is very hard
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16:39.19digmouseall hunters get 1600+ on gorefiend and RoS but the best locks and mages get 1100
16:39.40Groktarlolwat?
16:39.44Groktarare the locks affliction?
16:39.53digmouseno,.. shadow destro
16:40.10TifiMy spell rotation is the following
16:40.10Tifi2 -> 5 -> 3 -> 2 -> 6 -> 4 -> 2 ->2 ->2 -> 3
16:40.10Tifirepeat
16:40.11digmousespamming SB and inc
16:40.11Groktardid they downrank their SB or something?
16:40.12Stanzillawtf
16:40.13GroktaroO
16:40.16TifiOf course keys 1-6 ARE all bound to shadowbolt.... but this makes me feel skillful!
16:40.23Stanzillataking a break between each shadowbolt?
16:40.27digmousehunters are one button spamming too@
16:40.40oloffolI'm using this code to "reply" to a whisper, but it sends the message to me instead:   SendChatMessage("Invite failed!","WHISPER","Common",UnitName("unit"))
16:41.10digmousemacro spamming and I got 1600 and even 2100 on one ROS attempt
16:41.11oloffolif GetNumRaidMembers() == 0 and GetNumPartyMembers() == 4 then  SendChatMessage("Invite failed!","WHISPER","Common",UnitName("unit"))
16:41.20NeoTronoh my. we just got an app posted in our general (not application) forum... using a app template from another guild
16:41.32NeoTronpart of the app says: "Why I want to raid with <other guild>:"
16:41.39digmousehow much SR OTs need?
16:41.54Groktarless than everyone else
16:41.54Tifioloffol, you need to replace UnitName("unit") with the person who should receive the whisper
16:42.00digmouse150 unbuffed?
16:42.10Groktarjust the epic sr pieces, imo
16:42.12oloffolyeah, but how can I specify the last person who whispered me?
16:42.22oloffoli.e. the person who triggered the message
16:42.32JagannathLmfao.
16:42.38JagannathThat app is pro.
16:42.52Quaiche|workoloffol: you need to trap the whipser, store it and reuse it
16:42.55digmouseepic sr pieces can mean 4 crafted + necklace or 1 crafted..
16:43.03Quaiche|workI do that in AutoText
16:43.08oloffoloh
16:43.49JagannathWhen I OT'd Mother, I only wore the 4/5 crafted I think. No cloak. Something like that, it's been awhile =p
16:43.52TifiChatEdit_GetLastTellTarget()
16:44.04Tifioloffol,
16:44.11oloffolthank you
16:44.46Groktarthat doesn't seem right...
16:45.24Tifiwhen i OT mother i'm wearing 0 sr
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16:45.30digmouse3crafted+neck enough for offtanks?
16:45.34Groktarya
16:45.59Tifiwhy sr for OTs?
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16:46.27Tifii was only ever ported when we had 1 mt 3 ots
16:46.38Groktarlol
16:47.06Groktarsr is good for the ots because people can still get ported near them
16:47.22Groktarand if she saber lashes near the same time it can be bad
16:48.04Groktarespecially since with uncapped SR healers will likely have lots of mana problems
16:48.10Groktarand take their time healing up the OTs
16:48.49NeoTronso we did Noth last night for the first time
16:48.59Groktardidja decurse?
16:49.00Groktar:D
16:49.03NeoTronone shotted with most people never seen it before
16:49.13NeoTronand from waht we noticed, there's no decursing possible in 10-man version at least
16:49.13Groktarhow many people does the curse hit now?
16:49.17Tifiwell, maybe i'll start wearing the neck :>
16:49.17Groktaro
16:49.19Groktarinteresting
16:49.22NeoTronyou get cursed but you can't decurse it
16:49.30NeoTronit was a really easy fight though
16:49.42NeoTronRazuvious was buffed/fixed
16:49.42Groktarso does it just not do a whole lot of damage?
16:49.49NeoTronnot too much I guess
16:49.59NeoTronwe had 3 healers and no one ran OOM from what I saw
16:50.22NeoTronRaz was our hardest fight because we had a new mind controller who had issues... like finding her pet frame :P
16:50.29Groktarhehe
16:50.59NeoTronmainly you can't mess up
16:51.00Groktarsince setting up pet frames ahead of time is hard and all
16:51.08NeoTronso you have to get the taun/tshieldwall down or the adds will die
16:51.12NeoTronit is
16:51.22NeoTronbecuase she just got beta installed and hadn't had any time
16:51.31NeoTronso set up bars + frames while we were waiting
16:51.38NeoTronand as a druid, you don't exactly have a pet to try with
16:51.51NeoTronthis is on the premade server
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16:55.56NeoTronI got a nice chest piece, polearm (not the best of weapons but an upgrade), bracers and a <hot> mail dps belt (I love the int as a DK)
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17:04.09whatsinthenamehttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=15074.0 second alpha of ReminderPlus released, feedback appreciated
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17:09.41[SW]Dodgeyay
17:09.41[SW]Dodge:D
17:11.09[SW]Dodgewhatsinthename: seems that the file is not yet approved? :)
17:12.09whatsinthenamejust uploaded it , hopefully soon >.>
17:12.16[SW]Dodge:D
17:12.35whatsinthenameapproved now
17:14.53Tifiwhatsinthename, reminders are triggered only by events?
17:16.25krypsd a Rui a
17:16.30krypsoops, sorry
17:16.55[SW]Dodgewhatsinthename: after /rp a nearly empty gui is shown?`:)
17:17.43Groktardevours Kaelten
17:20.13whatsinthenameclick on reminder or events or objects
17:21.26[SW]Dodgemy first impression of the gui is that it is not really intuitive :/
17:22.47Tifiwhatsinthename, i have a suggestion. make it so that reminders are tied to conditions, and if all those conditions evaluate to true the reminder pops up. the value of a condition might change because time changes, or an event fires etc
17:24.45whatsinthenameTifi: thats how it is , the conditions being OnEvent/OnTime/OnObject_click  with a validity clause attached to it if the user wants
17:25.17[SW]Dodgewhatsinthename: "Font: Not Set(Size: Not Set)" <- where can i set a font?
17:25.25[SW]Dodgesame to backgournd and border?
17:25.26whatsinthenameNYI
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17:25.39[SW]Dodgeq.q
17:26.07[SW]Dodgethen the addon can does nothing as i can create a valid reminder o.o?
17:27.01whatsinthenamedamnit i forgot to set defaults for em ./cry
17:27.07[SW]Dodge:D
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17:27.57[SW]Dodgeyou should have defaults for most settings, that the user can set the condithons to fire the reminder and enjoy it w/o wasting hours to set it up :P
17:29.22p3limI would like to have the Blizzard RaidUI's dropdown menus in oUF, how can i do that? Any suggestions are appriciated (been looking through RaidUI past half hour
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17:30.49nevcairieltype2 = menu
17:30.50nevcairielor so
17:31.17Groktarstupid forum software
17:32.05Groktarevery time i edit someone's post it puts Edited: <timestamp> by GROKTAR
17:32.15KaeltenGroktar: what did I do to you!
17:32.21Kaelten:
17:32.23Groktaryou looked tasty
17:32.31Groktarlicks his lips
17:32.31Fisker-you cheated on him
17:32.33Kaeltenare you hot female and over 18?
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17:32.46Fisker-licks Groktar
17:32.50Kaeltenif not I'll pass that portion of our relationship :)
17:32.50Groktargiggles
17:32.51AckisWorkKaelten: I am, murky pls?
17:32.58KaeltenAckisWork: LIES!
17:33.07AckisWorklol
17:33.09Fisker-kisses Groktar on the mouth
17:33.19Groktarvomits into Fisker-'s mouth
17:33.27Fisker-vomits into Groktar's mouth
17:33.32AckisWorkKaelten: I have b00bs though
17:34.07Kaeltenum... man boobs EWE!!!!
17:34.46DashkalAckisWork, even after all this time, you can still creep me out.  Congrats
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17:36.18AckisWorkDashkal: :D
17:36.49VonhintenHOME`Ackis?  http://msp219.photobucket.com/albums/cc233/momndad4ever/us/man-boobs.jpg   NSFW (not really that bad, but IT might think you're wierd)
17:37.27EthanCentauraistabs forks into his eyes to avoid looking at the disgusting image.
17:38.21AckisWorkthose are hot tbh
17:38.29AckisWorkDashkal wanna make out with Kaelten and I?
17:38.32Groktaro damn
17:38.36Groktari wanna titty fuck that
17:38.37Groktarmt
17:39.12Tifiwhatsinthename, but you can only have one event per reminder right?
17:39.48DashkalVonhintenHOME`: Congrats, you just took the creepy title from Ackis
17:40.00Groktarare those zits?
17:40.05KaeltenNot sure Groktar is doing pretty good too.
17:40.07whatsinthenameyes tifi
17:40.16Groktarsees a train wreck and can't stop watching
17:40.27Dashkaland AckisWork, sorry, girl-boobs are a requirement
17:40.31AckisWorklol
17:40.32VonhintenHOME`Creepy?  That wasn't creepy like this is creepy:  http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u268/2aws/tits.jpg  NSFW
17:40.41DashkalYou know?  I think I'll pass this time
17:40.50Groktaroh
17:40.51Groktarmy
17:40.51Groktargod
17:41.04Groktarif you cropped his head
17:41.09Groktari would totally think that was a woman
17:41.41Tornhoofi don't really want to know what woman you know ;)
17:41.46Tifiwhat i meant earlier is: make conditions separate objects, and each reminder has a (variable sized) list of conditions
17:42.30Tificonditions might be more complex, like "being in a city"
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17:43.11whatsinthenamehmm, i should do something like that for a future build
17:44.40whatsinthenamev1.11A is up, awaiting validation, fixed the defaults
17:45.44Fisker->:3?
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17:50.32Tifiwhatsinthename, you might also want to combine the different dialog windows into one tabbed dialog
17:51.27Tifiand what exactly are "objects" in the dialog?
17:51.33whatsinthenameTifi: thats a big issue, I had great trouble with ace config when doing that, I will probably have to rebuild it using ace gui to do that
17:52.03Tifii see
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17:52.32whatsinthenameobjects = OnClick handlers, for example when you click on a player maybe, still working on that part
17:53.12Tifio.O
17:53.30Tifiwho wants a popup when clicking on a player? ^^
17:53.42Josh_Borkeobviously me
17:53.55whatsinthenamepeople are weired
17:53.57Groktarlooks at Josh_Borke suspicously
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17:58.01whatsinthenamei think i am gonna code the conditions handler next, that should make it a little more appealing
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18:11.51FtH|Daemonahmm hmm Hellboy or The Jackal ?
18:16.05sylvanaarok, Lua pattern matching is on my nerves today because i cant properly handle " Sylvaan" "Sylvaan " and "Sylvaan"
18:16.22sylvanaaroh and " Sylvaan "
18:16.38Tornhoof\s*Sylvaan\s* or similar?
18:16.52Tifistring.trim?
18:17.08Tornhoofhmm is there no reversetranslation anymore in acelocal 3?
18:18.25sylvanaar<PROTECTED>
18:18.56winkilleraaaaaaahhh
18:19.04winkillerFtH|Daemona:  [19:44:09] (@xxxx) hm ... hellboy oder schakal?
18:19.07Tornhoof[^w]?Sylvaan[^w]?
18:19.15winkillerseems I miss a tv guide :P
18:19.20Josh_Borkewhy not [^%a]?Sylvaan[^%w]?
18:19.24Josh_Borkeerm, %a
18:19.25winkillertv's stalking me on irc :<
18:19.30Tornhoofah yes it's a in lua ;)
18:20.00sylvanaarJosh_Borke i tried: "%A("..name..")%A"
18:20.13sylvanaaralmost the same
18:20.17sylvanaarnot quite
18:20.40ArrowmasterClasssylvanaar: frontier pattern
18:20.48sylvanaarnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
18:21.07Josh_Borkelua> (" Sylvaanisnotmyname"):match("[^%a]*Sylvaan[^%a]*")
18:21.07lua_botJosh_Borke:  Sylvaan
18:21.21ArrowmasterClasssylvanaar: i dont understand what your trying to do
18:21.22Josh_Borkewait, i see the problem
18:21.40sylvanaarmatch my name when its not part of another word
18:21.49Tornhoofthat should do it
18:21.58Tornhoofi mean what josh posted
18:21.59Josh_Borkelua> (" Sylvaanisnotmyname"):match("[%w]*Sylvaan[%w]*")
18:21.59lua_botJosh_Borke: Sylvaanisnotmyname
18:22.01ArrowmasterClasssylvanaar: yeah thats exactly what frontier pattern is for
18:22.07Josh_BorkeTornhoof: it doesn't
18:22.16sylvanaari know - i still dont understand it
18:22.28sylvanaarplus its undocumented
18:22.53ArrowmasterClass(" Sylvaanisnotmyname"):match("%f[%W]Sylvaan%f[%w]")
18:23.02Tornhoofwhere does [^%a] not work?
18:23.07ArrowmasterClasslua> (" Sylvaanisnotmyname"):match("%f[%W]Sylvaan%f[%w]")
18:23.08lua_botArrowmasterClass: nil
18:23.16Josh_Borkeit matches Sylvaan when it shouldn't
18:23.17ArrowmasterClass(" Sylvaan"):match("%f[%W]Sylvaan%f[%w]")
18:23.30ArrowmasterClassstupid client
18:23.33ArrowmasterClasslua> (" Sylvaan"):match("%f[%W]Sylvaan%f[%w]")
18:23.33lua_botArrowmasterClass: nil
18:23.37Tornhoofexample josh?
18:23.44Tornhoofthe one you did above was with [%w]
18:23.47Josh_Borkelua> (" Sylvaanisnotmyname"):match("[^%a]*Sylvaan[^%a]*")
18:23.47ArrowmasterClasslua> (" Sylvaan"):match("%f[%w]Sylvaan%f[%W]")
18:23.48lua_botJosh_Borke:  Sylvaan
18:23.48lua_botArrowmasterClass: Sylvaan
18:23.50ShaneSvellersylvanaar: so you only want it to match exactly Sylvanaar without anything before or after besides whitespace?
18:23.59sylvanaaryes
18:24.04ArrowmasterClasslua> (" Sylvaanisnotmyname"):match("%f[%w]Sylvaan%f[%W]")
18:24.05lua_botArrowmasterClass: nil
18:24.18ArrowmasterClassyeah i got it
18:24.18ArrowmasterClass"%f[%w]Sylvaan%f[%W]"
18:24.18Josh_Borkelua> (" Sylvaanisnotmyname"):match("%f[%w]Sylvaan%f[%w]")
18:24.18lua_botJosh_Borke: nil
18:24.23Josh_Borkelua> (" Sylvaan"):match("%f[%w]Sylvaan%f[%w]")
18:24.24lua_botJosh_Borke: nil
18:24.26Tornhoofk i got ya josh, thanks
18:24.29ShaneSvellersylvanaar: i.e. ^sylvanaar$ in a different regex format?
18:24.56Tornhoofno shane, in sentences too
18:25.05Josh_Borkethe end of string business is what makes it hard
18:25.09sylvanaarok, Josh and Arrow have earned the achievement "Expanding the Frontiers"
18:25.41Tornhoofhmm who wrote acelocal-3.0?
18:25.57ArrowmasterClassTornhoof: the ace3 dev team, why?
18:26.19ArrowmasterClasssylvanaar: i doubt that pattern will work well for other languages
18:26.46Tornhoofi'm missing reversetranslation ;)
18:27.04ArrowmasterClassnot neded
18:27.06ArrowmasterClassneeded
18:27.25Tornhoofand how can i get that functionality?
18:27.38Josh_Borkewhy do you need it?
18:27.42ArrowmasterClasscopy it from libbabble-3.0?
18:27.43sylvanaarArrowmasterClass why
18:27.54Tornhoofsimple, totem tooltip parsing
18:27.57ArrowmasterClasssylvanaar: because lua doesnt support utf8
18:28.07Tornhoofone tooltip return let's say Werkzeug: Erdtotem
18:28.30Tornhoofi will extract the Erd (hardcode to Erde (german tooltip is fucked there) and reverselookup it back to Earth
18:28.47Tornhoofwhich i will then use in the remainder of my code ;)
18:28.58ArrowmasterClasssounds like the wrong way to do it
18:29.15sylvanaarim slow today, how does it work for chinese? what am i missing besides clearly my brain
18:29.19ArrowmasterClassshould just use the spellid
18:29.40ArrowmasterClasssylvanaar: because %w doesnt match chinese characters
18:29.59Josh_Borkesylvanaar: you're fucked because you want to be able to match beginning and ending string
18:30.05Josh_Borkesylvanaar: just do it in 3 matches
18:30.12IkzDoes anyone know of a set of party frames that will align itself to a center?
18:30.17Tornhooflarge list of spellids and i don't want to update the code everytime blz decides to give us a new totem or remove another one
18:30.43Josh_Borkemake a reverse lookup yourself then
18:30.46ArrowmasterClassthats no excuse
18:30.54ArrowmasterClassspellids are the proper way
18:30.57Tornhoofno
18:30.58ShaneSvellerIkz: i'm still saying you could put any UF anywhere you damn well please if you bothered with oUF
18:31.01Tornhoofthey are not
18:31.03Tornhoofthey are limited
18:31.04ArrowmasterClassyes they are
18:31.20Tornhoofwhy should i bother writing a mapping spellid to element
18:31.27Tornhoofif it's already in the game information (aka tooltip)
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18:31.40IkzHow hard is it for someone who knows nothing about Lua coding to use oUF?
18:31.46Tornhoofi'll write my own rev. lookup then yeh
18:32.06ArrowmasterClassIkz: probably impossible
18:32.15sylvanaarJosh_Borke well, there is one of these per user name. i have to limit it to 1
18:32.45ShaneSvellerIkz: to write a layout from scratch, yeah, likely impossible.
18:32.48Josh_Borkeextrapolate to a function then
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18:33.08ShaneSvellerIkz: poking around other existing layouts to see "what they did there" is quite helpful though
18:33.29sylvanaaryeah, i can do that
18:33.29IkzWell what I'm asking is for party frames that will align themselves to a central point.
18:33.50sylvanaarjust get both chars on either side, and then check them manually
18:34.42Tifilua> ("Sylvaanius "):match("%f[%w]Sylvaan%f[%W]")
18:34.42lua_botTifi: nil
18:34.45sylvanaar.?Sylvaan.?
18:34.46Tifilua> ("Sylvaan "):match("%f[%w]Sylvaan%f[%W]")
18:34.47lua_botTifi: Sylvaan
18:34.51Tifilua> (" Sylvaan "):match("%f[%w]Sylvaan%f[%W]")
18:34.52lua_botTifi: Sylvaan
18:34.58ShaneSvellerIkz: alter a layout you like and change the SetPoint calls on the Party header
18:35.00sylvanaarthat works Tifi
18:35.12ShaneSvellerIkz: what central point are you trying to align to? screen center?
18:35.20Tifilua> ("NotSylvaan"):match("%f[%w]Sylvaan%f[%W]")
18:35.21lua_botTifi: nil
18:35.28IkzYes
18:35.39IkzHorizontally.
18:36.22ShaneSvellerIkz: Ah. again, having no lua knowledge at all would probably make oUF a PITA, but it does give you fantastic control of placement
18:36.31Pkekyo|is 'moron' the oposite of 'oxymoron'? :P
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18:37.13EthanCentauraian 'oxymoron
18:37.22EthanCentauraiis a stupid cow
18:37.29EthanCentauraiand so is my Enter key :(
18:37.41sylvanaarhow about a foxymoron
18:37.49sylvanaardumb and cute?
18:37.52ShaneSvellerjessica simpson?
18:37.56EthanCentauraibaka kitsune
18:39.06Koliegf.
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18:58.52digmouseanyone see the bejeweled mod code?
18:59.45Koliedigmouse: mE!
19:00.03digmousei think... that code is a disaster...
19:00.31KolielOOKS MINIFIED
19:01.03digmouseI am almost pissed writing locale for it
19:02.32sylvanaari havent checked the wowace porting thing, the svn hasnt been frozen or anything right
19:03.28ArrowmasterClassdigmouse: its been run through LuaSrcDiet
19:03.36sylvanaarwhats that
19:03.42ArrowmasterClassgoogle ti
19:03.43ArrowmasterClassit
19:03.43digmouselining tool?
19:04.15sylvanaarah
19:04.35ArrowmasterClasshmm my google isnt working
19:04.58sylvanaarsource size minimizer
19:05.07CheadsLuaSrcDiet reduces the size of Lua 5.1.x source files by aggressively removing all unnecessary whitespace and comments, optimizing constant tokens, and renaming local variables to shorter names.
19:05.47sylvanaarthat help?
19:05.47ArrowmasterClassto bad i cant get my connections on this computer to use the other network card and go out the adsl instead of the campus network
19:06.16ArrowmasterClass(adsl network card is for vmware)
19:07.09Ikz~seen Elipsis
19:07.10purli haven't seen 'elipsis', Ikz
19:07.19Ikz~seen Ellipsis
19:07.20purlellipsis <n=ellipsis@c-71-231-115-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 4h 1m 23s ago, saying: 'now it's active hate'.
19:07.23Fisker-:(
19:07.35Fisker-~kiss sylvanaar
19:07.36purlACTION forces sylvanaar to give Seerah|away a big kiss on the forhead
19:07.37Dashkalthat's a good while offline for her...
19:08.02ArrowmasterClassrofl the teacher just told us to goto kongregate.com and entertain ourselves while he fixes something
19:08.19sylvanaarFisker- ?
19:08.53Fisker-random target
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19:11.50Wraithanhttp://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/
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19:16.25IkzI beseech all of you, I've been looking for hours for a way to make a unit frame addon put buffs on the top of the frame, and debuffs on the bottom. None of them seem to have this functionality.
19:17.23DashkalI remember old discord let you do just that.  Pitbull may (though I have very limited experience with that one)
19:17.23digmousePitBull
19:17.43digmouseyou can set buffs and debuff seperated in any postion
19:18.21IkzActually no you can't.
19:18.26IkzBecause I started at Pitbull.
19:18.32digmouseIkz: need a prove?
19:18.42IkzSure why not.
19:18.49digmouseu have to set the aura option to be separated
19:18.57digmousewait for a while
19:19.03IkzNo, that puts them on opposite ends.
19:19.13IkzI need buffs on top and debuffs on bottom of the frame it self
19:19.24digmouseye, you can
19:20.18Groktarwotlk branch of aguf does it!
19:20.34digmouseGroktar: agree!
19:20.54AckisWorklua> mod(50000, 10000)
19:20.55lua_botAckisWork: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'mod' (a nil value)
19:20.56Ikzdigmouse: Actually I had my wires crossed for a minute there. You can in Pitbull, but the problem with Pitbull is that it has a targeting bug
19:21.00AckisWorklua> math.mod(50000, 10000)
19:21.01IkzThat is not going to get fixed any time soon
19:21.01lua_botAckisWork: 0
19:21.15Groktarlicks aguf-wotlk
19:21.16digmouseIkz: what targeting bug?
19:21.47IkzSometimes when you switch targets in combat, the portrait does not change and the health bar stays where it was at regardless of the new target's health.
19:22.06digmouseI never experienced that..
19:22.22IkzI've had plenty of people in here vouch for me.
19:22.30IkzIt's a long-standing bug
19:23.00digmousesometime I got problems of target and pet healthbar stayfull and wont disappear
19:23.10digmousebut after a reload it's gone
19:24.18fewyn[work]hmmm
19:24.23fewyn[work]stasiscl is pretty cool
19:24.29fewyn[work]i'm starting to like it
19:25.16Gnarfozindeedily
19:27.38digmousewhat is that
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19:28.48Groktarmy ankle feels like it's on fire
19:29.12Groktarhad a night terror and sprained it jumping out of bed
19:29.16digmouseIkz: see http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snap4gr5.jpg I put my buff on topleft and debuff on bottomright
19:29.58Ikz.:14·20·46:. <Ikz> digmouse: Actually I had my wires crossed for a minute there. You can in Pitbull, but the problem with Pitbull is that it has a targeting bug
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19:30.11digmouseah I didnt see tha
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19:30.45kagaroAckisWork: ping
19:31.07Quaiche|workWow... stasiscl _is_ cool
19:31.12Quaiche|workHaven't seen that before
19:34.49digmousebut.... what is stasiscl
19:34.58Quaiche|workgoogle it
19:35.00ZyndromeCURSE YOU BEJEWELED
19:35.01Gnarfozwell, do what quaiche did
19:35.09Zyndromeaddictive :C
19:35.12digmouseZyndrome: curse X 2
19:35.22Gnarfozdamn you quaiche, why'd you have to be quicker than me :<
19:35.22Quaiche|workBasically a perl script that produces WWS-like web pages from CombatLog files
19:35.33Quaiche|workI typed less. :)
19:35.36Gnarfozor shorter: a self-hostable wws clone
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19:35.42digmouseoh that means nothing for me
19:35.53Quaiche|workgoogle it and you'll see why you might care
19:36.00Gnarfozfor me it means $9 less per month
19:36.03Quaiche|workDon't know about WWS?
19:36.06Gnarfoz(even though that's just 6€ ;D)
19:36.12digmouseI do know
19:36.33Quaiche|workNot sure I want to lose the things WWS has that stasiscl doesn't do, but I'll keep an eye on it
19:36.35digmousebut WWS or anything else means nothing for me :D
19:36.43Quaiche|workwowwebstats.com
19:37.17digmouseI know WWS and other analyzing site
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19:37.52Quaiche|workOh,  you mean you don't care
19:37.56Quaiche|workFair enough
19:38.14Quaiche|workI find it very valuable when looking for things I can do or that I can help others do beter
19:38.22digmouseI'm not a RL though
19:38.41sbQuaiche|work: its slow....
19:38.48sbits _really_ slow :P
19:38.51Gnarfozyou don't have to be for wws to be useful to you
19:38.51Quaiche|workstasiscl is slow?
19:38.53sbyep
19:38.57Gnarfozhow so? oO
19:39.10Gnarfozit's not like WWS is fast, lol
19:39.11Quaiche|workAgree'd Gnarfoz, you don't have to be a RL to find it useful
19:39.14sbtakes like 5+ min to analyze 4h raid
19:39.19Quaiche|workOUCH
19:39.25sbwws does the same in ~10s
19:39.31Gnarfozuhm no? :\
19:39.35Gnarfozalso, machine specs.
19:39.39sbits more like 20+ minutes :p
19:39.54sbuhm, intel 9550
19:40.00Gnarfozintel?
19:40.01sbQ9550
19:40.12Gnarfozcpu type :<
19:40.20Gnarfozxeon? c2q? what the heck is that :p
19:40.26sbintel quad core 3.4ghz
19:40.32Gnarfozcpu. type. :<
19:40.36Gnarfozintel is a company, not a cpu
19:40.44sbC2Q ffs :)
19:40.47Gnarfozkk
19:40.57sbits all in "quad core 3.4ghz"
19:41.01sbor in "Q9550" :P
19:41.05sb*slap*
19:41.11Gnarfozwell
19:41.18Gnarfozthat's a *description* as well
19:41.22IkzIf only Discord Unit Frames worked, my troubles would be over.
19:41.23Gnarfozthat would have fit onto a Xeon, maybe
19:41.43sbIkz: yes.. whatever :p
19:41.45Gnarfoznot up to speed on these weird product naming schemes anymore since clock frequencies became rather irrelevant. when only AMD was doing it, it was easier ;D
19:42.13Cheadsq is quad .. e is dual !!
19:42.19Quaiche|workIkz: Just write an oUF layout for yourself?
19:42.24Cheadst is lapTop ;O)
19:42.31Gnarfozyeah, *that* makes sense, right
19:42.32Gnarfoz;D
19:42.35Cheadsno =9
19:42.38Gnarfoz=[
19:42.40Cheadswell.. atleast not to me
19:43.00Gnarfoznot to me, either, but I bet the person who decided that earns 5 times of what we earn, combined :p
19:43.23Cheadsatleast!
19:43.28sbmh... vampiric embrace is broken ;)
19:43.37sbonly heals for 1 hp
19:44.39sbuhm whats "overkill"?
19:44.48Gnarfozoverhealing -> killing -> overkilling
19:44.55sb"hits target tommy for 1 shadow (1929 overkill)"
19:45.09Gnarfozwell, you killz0red it too much!
19:45.11sbmhh okay that would explain why vamp embrace only heals 1 hp :)
19:46.32Quaiche|workhaha
19:47.23sbso you cant test shadow dps because you would be dead after ~1 minute ;)
19:50.13DashkalCuriosity: Does SW:Death have a kickback on 1hp dummies?
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19:52.24sbyup...
19:52.37Josh_Borkesounds like a bug
19:54.55DashkalGuess it works based on a 'kill' and not based on dealing more damage than they have in HP.  Figured as much but I was curious
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19:58.03sboh btw, how does that 20k mount work?
19:58.18sbespecially those built-in vendors :)
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20:10.33digmouseis wowace svn dead?
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20:11.18yacoobHello there, anyone remembers me here? :)
20:12.26yacoobjust dropped in to check, whether there's much people porting their addons to WAR
20:18.58Kuja^is there a script command for acceppting group invites? can't see the window for it
20:21.16cncfanaticsbonks his head
20:22.08cncfanaticsanyone got experience with using unordered_map in C++ ?
20:23.15Tornhoofa bit
20:23.54cncfanaticshttp://pastebin.com/d3d425500 this is my current code with error output under it
20:24.05cncfanaticsbeen trying different things for several hours but I'm wondering why this one won't compile
20:25.39Tornhoofno idea sorry
20:25.56Tornhoofanyway using void (*)() as param is bad anyway
20:26.16Tornhoofyou might want to take a look at some of the boost libraries to wrap that
20:27.13cncfanaticswell, I'd rather first get this working
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20:29.39whatsinthenameis there a way to find out what arguments an event supports in game?
20:37.04Josh_Borkeyou mean what arguments an event generates when triggered?
20:37.11Josh_Borkei use devtools to check out events
20:41.57IkzThis Tuck Unit Frames addon is pretty good.
20:43.32cladhaireIkz: link?
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20:45.30Ikzhttp://www.curse.com/downloads/from-curseforge/7577/ It's a bit archaic - I made a simple tweak to it to make the buff offset move in steps of 1 instead of 2, but it's a simple addon with a simple look that works. Also I changed the reset command from /tuf to /tufreset so I won't do it accidentally.
20:45.35IkzYou need iFrameManager too.
20:45.42NeoTronsb: from what I understand there are teo vendors riding on the passanger seats (can't kick them off yet). they are reagent vendor and repair vendor, not sure about the details
20:45.57IkzI haven't tested the diminishing returns yet
20:46.41sbNeoTron: i read some blue post saying you can dismiss your vendors to make it a 3 person mount
20:46.49sbbut what happens to your vendors then? :P
20:48.02NeoTronI assume you just dismount and remount
20:48.12NeoTronthe dismissing doesn't work yet afaik
20:48.37sbmhhhhhhh... :)
20:48.41sbWTB ;)
20:48.51Tifiwhatsinthename, http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_(API)
20:54.19NeoTron1) grind exalted with kirin tor, 2) buy :P
20:54.35NeoTronat 20000g it's definitely one where getting faction first is a good idea
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20:57.27sbmhhhh... yes
20:57.36sbbut vendors always with you - thats great :)
20:57.56nevcairielyou can boot them off that thing, though
20:57.59cladhaireTifi: whatsinthename: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events as well, but as Josh_Borke mentioned the absolute best way is to use DevTools.
20:58.02nevcairieland make space for passengers
20:59.31NeoTronapparently the vendors is a gnome and a draenei with a turban
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21:14.06Arrowmasterwhat do the vendors do?
21:14.26Arrowmasteroh nvm i see now
21:14.59Koliecurse.com launched.
21:15.22sbnevcairiel: yes... boot them off is one thing
21:15.28sbnevcairiel: but how do i get them back?
21:15.39Arrowmasterdismount and remount?
21:15.41sbmhhh...
21:15.59nevcairielno idea, i didnt have enough money
21:16.06sbso they are always with you... following your mount :p
21:17.51[SW]DodgeKolie: there is a issue with curseforge and new curse,com: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cdb/ => http://www.curse.com/downloads/from-curseforge/7874/
21:17.58[SW]Dodgeresults in an error
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21:19.04KolieI went to the first link.
21:19.13KolieIt appears fine
21:19.19Koliesecond link is bad, where did you get it
21:19.25nevcairielKolie: scroll down to the comments section
21:19.33KolieComments look fine.
21:19.35Kaeltenhrm
21:19.37KaeltenI know where
21:19.49nevcairielI get that page-not-found in the comments iframe
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21:20.23KolieKaelten: why does it work for me.
21:20.36[SW]DodgeKolie: i got the second link from the first link :P in Facts section "Curse Project: CooldownButtons"
21:20.58nevcairielya fails for me too
21:21.16nevcairielsame error for my project, btw
21:22.07[SW]DodgeKolie: and from my.curse.com/my/ the linkt to my addon is http://wowstaging.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/cdb.aspx and that results in a "You are not authorized to view this page "message"
21:22.57[SW]Dodgeand my.curse.com tells me in "My Activitry that i joined curse on 09-17-2008 but added my addon on 08-25-2008
21:24.13KaeltenI'm fixing
21:25.12sbnevcairiel: mhh okay, just started character copy with 20k gold...
21:26.18Kolie[SW]Dodge: I only work on the client, Kaelten is the best to forward website issues to.
21:26.40[SW]Dodgeok, i think he saw that :D
21:27.51[SW]DodgeKolie: is there a way to see the startup message after the 2013 client update again?
21:29.35KaeltenDodge: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cdb/
21:29.37Kaeltenfixed
21:30.00Kolieyea, search your registry for seenpremmsg
21:30.02Koliedelete the key
21:30.04[SW]DodgeKaelten: yay thanks :D
21:30.33Kolieor set it to 0
21:31.35[SW]Dodgeokay, there it is... what do you mean with "No delays in getting your addons!"? o.o?
21:32.36[SW]Dodgeand the automatic updates feature = on startup without clicking "Update"?
21:33.05Pkekyo|why are japanese kids so goddamn fucking whiney?
21:33.48sb[SW]Dodge: you have to watch some ad for 4 seconds before you can press the "update" button.. for EACH addon you wish to update
21:35.12[SW]Dodgewtf o.o sorry but thats a good reason to not use the client :(
21:35.54[SW]Dodgeit would take more than 6min to update my addons if i dont pay o.O
21:36.21AckisWorkassuming that every addon is updated? :P
21:37.17[SW]Dodgehm okay.. but i want fast updates like with wau ;( or wowui manager (which is slow enough due to requring confirmation)
21:37.49Pkekyo|is wau dead? :(
21:37.55[SW]Dodgeand imo curse client could get some "buffs"
21:38.05[SW]DodgePkekyo|: wau will die after new wowace launch afaik
21:38.15[SW]Dodges/after/with/
21:38.27Pkekyo|[SW]Dodge: but wai?
21:38.48Pkekyo|whoever decided that is a royal cunt
21:38.48Pkekyo|wau is fucking full of win and awesome until the end of time
21:39.01[SW]DodgePkekyo|: wau uses files.wowace.com and that will no longer exist :(
21:39.11Pkekyo|wth >.<
21:39.15Pkekyo|FUCKING FAIL
21:39.21[SW]DodgePkekyo|: /sign
21:39.26Pkekyo|yay for updating addons manually
21:39.47[SW]Dodgeyay for writing own small updater :D
21:39.53EthanCentauraiPkekyo|: files.wowace.com and WAU were generating a metric assload of bandwidth issues, and bandwidth isn't cheap
21:40.31Pkekyo|fucking fail still stands
21:40.43Pkekyo|[SW]Dodge: yay for not knowing howto >.<
21:41.13[SW]DodgePkekyo|: yay for knowing how to :P
21:41.45Pkekyo|aw screw you :<
21:41.59Pkekyo|WAU was awesome
21:41.59Pkekyo|why the hell knock suck a great thing?
21:42.21[SW]DodgePkekyo|: IF i do a own client i'll release it to public :D
21:42.33DashkalPkekyo|: unless you can afford a bandwidth bill that size...  wowace pushed a TON of data
21:42.38Pkekyo|doit! naow!
21:42.48Pkekyo|Dashkal: well, the addons still have to come from somewhere...?
21:43.00[SW]Dodgei want it wau like but not only wowace. it should support wowi and curse :D
21:43.01Pkekyo|that somewhere will also have bandwith issues
21:43.11DashkalPkekyo|: certainly.  The thing is making it _less_ convient to update all your addons will discourage people from updating to every single alpha rev.  less overall usage
21:43.38Pkekyo|>.< fucking fail
21:43.45Pkekyo|I've got 150+ addons
21:44.02Pkekyo|and I'll have to bloody update them manually every damn time those arsehats at blizz HQ breaks something
21:44.51EthanCentauraiPkekyo|: QQ somewhere else
21:44.53DashkalUnless you want to foot the bill, pretty much yes
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21:45.03Pkekyo|EthanCentaurai: nowhere else is about wowace
21:45.30EthanCentauraiyou're not the only one sad to see WAU and files.wowace.com go
21:45.43EthanCentauraibut I deal with it
21:46.01Pkekyo|well, I just found out, so I reserve the right to bitch and moan for ATLEAST three days
21:46.02[SW]DodgeEthanCentaurai: how?:)
21:46.05Pkekyo|now shoo
21:47.20EthanCentaurai[SW]Dodge: by learning as much as possible about the migration and finding methods to avoid a huge upset, like I have done
21:47.44EthanCentauraiPkekyo|: you haven't noticed the messages on the wowace forums? http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14316.0
21:47.54Pkekyo|no I haven't
21:48.07DashkalI took my 100+ addons and reduced them down to about 7 :p
21:48.34[SW]DodgeDashkal: lol
21:48.49DashkalAs an added bonus I can load in under a minute now :p
21:48.51Pkekyo|that's rifuckingdiculous
21:48.51Pkekyo|no-can-do
21:50.00Dashkal2.4 taught me it was possible.  3.0 _made_ me do it.  Amazing how many mods just plain broke in 3.0.  Not the secure stuff either, subtle breaks.
21:50.15cladhairewhy is it amazing?
21:50.21cladhairethe core templates were completely changed
21:50.31cladhairetherefore anythign that touched them will have errors, that are relatively easy to fix
21:51.17Dashkalcladhaire: when I had 100+ addons, all those trivial fixes were a bit overwhelming.  So I started over with a blank UI and added the bare minimum for me
21:51.24cladhairethat makes sense
21:51.29cladhaireI'm just saying you've overstating the "problem"
21:51.36cladhaireconsidering many of those mods will have simple fixes RELEASED
21:51.41cladhairethus it becomes "update your addons"
21:51.42cladhaire:P
21:52.04Pkekyo|cladhaire: but updating 100+ addons is rifuckingdiculously impossible now that wau is dying :(
21:52.12Josh_Borkeno it's not
21:52.13cladhairemeh i don't seem to have any issues
21:52.14Josh_Borkequit bitching
21:52.16DashkalAbsolutely.  But I got access to 3.0 about a month back.  At the time there wern't releases.  I was faced with fixing them myself, or doing without (not playing beta wasn't an option) :p
21:52.18cladhaireand I've never used WAU
21:52.34Cheads"Developers are protected and ensured the ability to get there mods updated via the new wowace and curseforge"  what exactly is 'the new wowace' ?
21:52.42Pkekyo|Josh_Borke: read up, I'll be bitching and moaning for atleast three days
21:52.50DashkalCheads: beta.wowace.com
21:52.56Cheadsthanks
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21:52.59cladhaireDashkal: compeltely understandable, I'm just saying your experiences are far from typical
21:53.06Dashkalcladhaire: *nods* good to know
21:53.07Josh_BorkePkekyo|: you're bitching about things breaking once every 18 months
21:53.17DashkalGuess I just had bad luck.  My UI was a nightmare when I tried to load it
21:53.28cladhairewell that makes sense, and starting from scratch is good
21:53.34DashkalTo be fair, I don't know exactly how many broke.  It was a mess to the point where going up from zero was much simpler
21:53.40cladhairehehe
21:54.08Josh_Borkeso when 3.0 hits, is it going to be like 2.0 was and disable all mods with toc under 3x?
21:55.06cladhaireyep
21:55.11cladhairei'd bet money on it :P
21:55.31Josh_Borkeperfect
21:55.43Josh_Borkeeasiest way to know if a mod has been updated or not :-P
21:55.45ramozWoWI doing the same, cladhaire?
21:55.59cladhaireI'm not sure if that's been decided or not.
21:56.02DashkalI should start looking at action bar addons again.  DKs are perfectly playable with default bars.  Feral druids are a bit more of a challenge...
21:56.16NeoTronDashkal: I found that I use A LOT more abiliies on my dk
21:56.27NeoTronnot only rotations but also 1-2 minute cooldown ones
21:56.34NeoTronI had none such abiltiies on my warlock
21:56.42Cheadshmm files.wowace.com going away.. .. so trying to get people to use the curse client... that you need premium curse thing to use (properly) hmmm
21:56.51DashkalNeoTron: I don't have much trouble fitting all my quick-access skills on the numbered bar.  Anything long running I could usually *gasps* click
21:57.09NeoTronclick sure
21:57.16NeoTronbut you ned it somewhere to click
21:57.22NeoTronand I don't like using 1 to =
21:57.29NeoTronI prefer multiple rows of keys with modifiers :P
21:57.34Dashkalheh, that works too
21:57.41NeoTronbut still fidn I use a lot more
21:57.46DashkalI play live with a four stack of bars, the bottom two of which switch with my form
21:58.16NeoTronat least 11 abiltiies I want handy
21:58.23DashkalFunny thing though... The only critical thing missing in the default bars for feral druids is a cat stealth bar.  One of those and my skills fit
21:58.58NeoTronmain issue I have with normal bars is that the possess mechanic replaces the main bar but uses different key bindings
21:59.24DashkalI don't think I've seen the posess mechanic.  Vehicles use the normal binds
21:59.56DashkalThough it's amazing how many creature vehicles exist who can auto-attack, but don't have a button (and don't autoattack on skill use like players!)
22:01.58Dashkalwow: http://notalwaysright.com/me-customer-me-hungry/762
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22:04.04ulichttp://www.curse.com/articles/curse-en-news/277997.aspx curse.com link under Curse Network Services is fail.
22:04.59StanzillaI heard Kody- cares :)
22:06.05Industrialaspx :D? werent they using django?
22:06.15ckknightwe were
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22:06.43ckknightIndustrial: not anymore, we launched the new site today
22:06.54ckknightcurseforge still uses django, though not for _too_ much longer
22:06.55Industrialic
22:07.07Industrialhad problems with it?
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22:09.16Gnarfozand still curse uses this fucking image resizer
22:09.46Gnarfozthat, in a single move, ignores aspect ratio and doesn't understand even 1-bit alpha transparency ;D
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22:15.57Cheadsso I guess there's supposed to be 'protection' so only the curse client will be able to download addons from curse?
22:16.14Josh_Borkecorrect
22:17.07Gnarfozat least without going through the ad-laden pages, that is
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22:25.35NeoTronhere's our best app so far
22:25.37NeoTronhttp://adrguild.com/index.php?page=2&p=22516&phpbb_script=viewtopic
22:26.09NeoTronGnarfoz: bin laden pages? TERRORIST!
22:26.42cladhaireso we'll see how this goes.. I just joined a 2v2 with a 2k+ experience warlock.  I'm clearly undergeared, but willing to put the time and skill into it.
22:26.50cladhaireHopefully I dont' embarass myself
22:26.52Gnarfozl2read, + there's tons of bin ladens around, just one who's a well known terrorist :p
22:27.01NeoTronlies
22:27.03NeoTronand propaganda
22:27.06NeoTronthere is only one!
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22:40.24whatsinthenamedoes wow lua support string.gmatch?
22:44.36ckknightyes
22:44.47mjc_blehckknight: email wasn't regged heh :P
22:44.55ckknightah
22:44.58ckknightthat makes sense, then
22:45.24Zhinjiowoot, brewfest kodo!
22:47.22Cheadshmm who is developing the curse client? someone we should know?
22:47.34Cheadskaelten?
22:48.19StanzillaKolie <
22:48.53Cheadsok
22:49.39Kody-You ran him off!
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22:50.14Cheadshehe
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23:06.11thulhmm, I think the GF-trouble kind of solved itself.
23:07.21nocts|workYou hit her with a car?
23:08.11Funkeh`sex usually solves everything
23:08.24thulnocts|work: well, long story, I had to work double shift today, she called me just before the second one started and said she was sick, I rushed home, got her some tea and food, she got angry beacause she wanted me to be home from work to help her (not very sick, just a bit headache :-P ), and I said.. "sorry, have to work, crisis!" and left.. bit of an argument etc, etc, and now, when I got home, something quite close to a breakup over facebook mail :-P
23:08.30thuljhu
23:09.21nocts|workMEh.
23:09.28thulkind of
23:10.02nocts|workSounds more like stress than anything else.
23:10.10nocts|workHave you leveled with her yet?
23:10.56nocts|workI'm wondering if she's pulling briefly closer (during her sickness) because she feels you pulling slightly away? Common emotional movement, followed by anger generally after the movement is denied.
23:12.18thulthat might be.. I'm just thinking that I might just roll with her breaking up with me and just go to bed for a week and come out as a single and fresh man, I'm just too tired to do much else at the time. Part of the problem is that I work 200-300 hour months, but she knew that before we even met.. :/
23:12.35thulwell, well.. I guess I should sleep on it
23:13.08Gngskshe's psychic?
23:13.18nocts|workHuh?
23:13.27thulGngsk: common friends.
23:13.30Gngskahh
23:13.38thuland it is a quite well known "fact" in my circle that I'm a workoholic.
23:13.45thulI like working a lot, it keeps me busy, that's me.
23:14.10Gngskworkaholic and play wow?
23:14.23thulhmm, a norwegian guy was charged for paying underaged guys to jump on his stomach with ice skates on
23:14.26thulGngsk: well, yes.
23:14.35thulI have a pityful /played :-P
23:15.10Dashkalthul: I'm sorry your /played is too high
23:15.38thulheh
23:15.42thulhttp://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/5/54/548/548249/horror_1222429940.jpg <- what movie is that from?
23:15.53thulDashkal: i think it is 50-60 days or something, since original release.
23:16.10Dashkalnot too bad.  My guild leader is over 75 _at level 70_
23:16.34Dashkalthul: Looks like the ring.  uncertain
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23:16.40thulhmm, ok
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23:17.15[SW]Dodge95days 17hr on L70; 138day total :D
23:17.36[SW]Dodge(my druid only ^^)
23:18.25thulhmm, ok :-P
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23:19.24fewynhmmm
23:19.28fewynlast.fm is pretty cool
23:19.34fewynhaven't used it in forever
23:20.08thulhttp://last.fm/user/thul
23:21.03fewynhttp://www.last.fm/user/fewyn
23:21.57fewynusing the last.fm radio
23:22.01fewynand it's pretty cool
23:22.11thulYour musical compatibility with fewyn is VERY LOW
23:22.30fewyni'm just getting back into the swing of things
23:22.37fewyni haven't really listened to music in several years
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23:46.24HjalteCan anyone tell me where I go if I want to download the latest copy of eg. oChat from hastes git? http://ixo.no/git/oChat.git/
23:48.10DashkalYou want it directly from git?  If you're certain on this, you need to get a git client.  For windows that means msysgit
23:49.00Funkeh`no you dont
23:49.14HjalteWell, I'd prefer a zipped download - Isn't that possible?
23:49.27DashkalOnly if ixo.no generates zips.
23:49.41DashkalBest bet is to wait for haste to build one
23:50.22ckknightget haste to push to curseforge and let that make zips? :-P
23:50.40DashkalGetting something directly from hit isn't for the faint of heart.  If you're not comfortable with distributed version control, this is a snake pit you don't want to stick your head into
23:50.44Dashkalgit*
23:52.10NeoTronwonder how tourguide outlands is progressing
23:52.28HjalteHmm. I'm certain I've downloaded oUF from his git before, in a zip, so I was hoping it'd be possible with other projects too.
23:52.30NeoTronshould be fine but will be behind everyone else by playing a DK.
23:54.34DashkalHjalte: you didn't download from git, you downloaded an automatically generated package.  curseforge is an example of a site that does autogeneration of zips.  I think gitorious[sp?] does as well.
23:56.59[SW]Dodgewtf my windows firefox just updated to 302... my ubunto updated yesterday to 3.0.3... win rls is outdated :E
23:57.49[SW]Dodgelol, and mozilla.com offers 3.o.3 setup... wtf? -.-
23:58.12HjalteIf me and a fellow druid both have the quest for epic flight form that means killing Anzu, is it then possible for both of us to complete it in the same run?
23:58.43[SW]DodgeHjalte: yes
23:58.51[SW]Dodgedid it with 2 other dr00ds :D

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