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00:00.39Arrowmasterbecause instead of creating global varibles it created everything inside that table
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00:03.28stew_asounds fair enough, just get the lua engine to print out a php and eval that in the php script
00:03.40dodgayikes, eval
00:04.02dodgabut then again, you can sandbox php too :D
00:04.21stew_ayeeaasss
00:05.26stew_alife is once again getting complicated >.<, as if it wasnt annoying enough to have to write your own imagecreatefromtga function to get GD to work with targas
00:06.03Arrowmasteryou could also use one of the many lua bindings
00:06.09Arrowmasternot sure if theres a lua php binding
00:06.30Arrowmasterthen you wouldnt have to write out to a file then read that file
00:06.53stew_alua binding?
00:09.50charonone lang to parse them all, and in the darkness bind them?
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00:14.39Pkekyo|KJÆRRINGÆ
00:15.15Pkekyo|BUSSÆR Å BILÆR Å BÅTÆR
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00:16.04Ellipsis~comfort Pkekyo|
00:16.04purlThere, there, Pkekyo|.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
00:16.22Pkekyo|wants tacos :<
00:16.58Pkekyo|is going to the store and buying stuff for tacos in 6hrs
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00:18.57Pkekyo|sweet, $600,000,000 lost due to banks going poop in the US...cheap stuff on ebay for me :D
00:19.03Pkekyo|do they have tacos on ebay?
00:19.38Ellipsisprobably
00:19.47Ellipsismaybe only the ones shaped like famous people though
00:19.47Pkekyo|ooh
00:19.55Pkekyo|maybe I won't have to walk to the store
00:19.57Pkekyo|dooh :<
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00:23.23Pkekyo|going to bed so the wait for tacos gets shorter
00:23.24Pkekyo|laters
00:23.34Ellipsisnight Pkekyo|
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00:57.26CIA-5803archarodim * r81757 10Decursive/Decursive.toc:
00:57.26CIA-58Decursive:
00:57.26CIA-58- version to 2.2.1
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01:34.40YssarilKaelten: where would you like us topost comments/suggestions/bugs for the beta.wowace site?
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01:57.33YssarilKaelten: is there anywhere you want us to post comments/suggestions/bugs for the beta.wowace site?
01:58.00Kaeltenhrm
01:58.02Kaeltenfor now the comments on the announcement works
01:58.05Kaeltenor hit me up directly
01:58.23Yssarildoes git work now ?
01:58.45KaeltenI just made the entries
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02:00.38|Yssaril|k
02:02.20|Yssaril|Kaelten: the search box is bigger than the actual entry box it extends to far to the left (at least in chrome and firefox)
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02:02.58ulicI mentioned that to ckk also
02:03.11Kaeltentalking about in the search site in the top right
02:03.12Kaelten?
02:03.34ulicyea the search dialog on the top right of the header area.
02:03.34|Yssaril|yea right under logout
02:03.49Kaeltenya, thats because the css was meant to show an icon there
02:04.00KaeltenI'll look at either getting an icon or removing it in the morning
02:04.10Kaeltenmake a comment on the announcement for me?
02:04.16|Yssaril|will do
02:04.18ulicdefinetly a fluff bug
02:04.23Kaeltenthanks man
02:06.58ckknightyou're a fluff bug, ulic
02:07.38Wobinhm I wonder what email I signed up under
02:08.00Kaeltenwobin your username?
02:08.05Wobinaye
02:08.56ulicckknight: I won't deny it.
02:09.11ckknightulic: we're agreed, then
02:10.03Wobinalso, typo
02:10.06WobinDate created:09/15/2008
02:10.06Wobin<PROTECTED>
02:10.22Wobinon the announcement
02:10.38|Yssaril|Kaelten: the faviconis also the curse one should be the wowace one
02:11.16Kaeltenmake comments please :)
02:12.10Wobinhm, how will branches be dealt with?
02:12.16Kaeltenclones
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02:12.43Wobinyou'll have to write something up about that I think =)
02:12.50Dashkal*sighs* is unlagged beta a thing of the past?  I haven't seen it without 1-2 second ability lag in awhile...
02:13.35ulicWobin: there are notes I think on curseforge about it, jfyi.
02:13.47Wobingoes to look
02:14.38ulicbut we shouldn't depend on CF for docs
02:14.47Kaeltenwe won't long term
02:14.53KaeltenI'm going to figure out something
02:15.39|Yssaril|or at least just clone them so they look wowaceish :)
02:15.41ulicwill the wiki be a thing of the past?  Seems like for this community a wiki might make for great documents
02:16.01Kaeltenevolving our wiki offerings on the new site is one of my goals for the next few months
02:16.32Wobinwiki is always so clumsy, I find
02:16.38Wobinthe markup especially
02:17.11Kaeltenwe support multiple markups currently
02:17.54WobinKaelten: how often does the importer run atm?
02:18.05Kaeltenon demand
02:18.05WobinI've been updating my X-Email in the tocs
02:18.12Kaeltenwe'll run it again tommorrow
02:18.37Wobink
02:19.17Wobinhm, Email or X-Email?
02:19.24WobinOr was Email depreciated
02:19.37KaeltenI think it should be X-Email
02:19.42ulicX-Email or X-eMail I think ckk said earlier.
02:19.43Wobinold addon is old
02:19.54ckknightcase-insensitive now
02:20.07ckknightand either Email or X-Email is accepted, X-Email preferred
02:21.22Wobinoh good =)
02:21.48|Yssaril|Kaelten: will the beta.wowace be wiped before it goes live with a final import or will anything we add stay?
02:21.57ckknightand you can do stuff like ckknight AT gmail DOT com
02:21.59ckknightand such
02:22.06ckknight|Yssaril|: gets wiped
02:22.27|Yssaril|k cool
02:23.06ckknightwe'll actually wipe tomorrow and do another import at that point, for people who changed their X-Email and such
02:25.25ckknightand people should fix their categories and such as well
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02:28.34WobWorkfinally
02:28.38WobWorka system that works off tags =P
02:28.43WobWorkrather than trunk
02:31.39ckknightlol
02:31.40ckknightyea
02:32.42ckknight@ticket curseforge 583 could be helpful as well
02:32.43Repockknight: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/583-possibility-to-include-the-latest-tag-of-a-library/. 583 - Possibility to include the "latest" tag of a library as external. Reported by: Nevcairiel. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 38 hours ago. Component: Packager. Status: New. Priority: High. Votes: +15. Comments: 3
02:32.56selckinanyone know when UNIT_DESTROYED triggers instead of like DIED ?
02:34.51ckknightselckin: happens if they don't leave a corpse
02:34.53ckknighte.g. totems
02:34.55WobWorkhm, how are you dealing with -current- branches of projects in your import?
02:35.11WobWorkor how can we deal with them after?
02:35.13ckknightwe're ignoring them
02:35.27ckknightyou can copy the code from them, we'll be providing the whole repo in read-only format
02:35.31NivFreakMH glave dropped on our ID
02:35.32ckknighttags, branches and all
02:35.33NivFreakwith another guild
02:35.36NivFreakour poor rogues
02:35.56selckinckknight: thanks
02:35.57WobWorkk, so we'd generate the original project, make a clone, copy the code from the branch into the clone and resubmit
02:36.24ckknightif you want to do it that way, sure
02:36.31ckknightthat's perfectly fine
02:37.15WobWorkis there a better way?
02:37.35CIA-5803wobin * r81760 10MrPlow/MrPlow.toc: MrPlow - Nothing to see, adding email
02:37.54WobWorkoh hai CIA
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02:39.09ckknightWobWork: you could keep it as a branch
02:39.16ckknightreally up to you what way you want to go with
02:39.36WobWorkah, just not sure how it's all linked together
02:39.46WobWorkon the project page
02:40.31ckknightk
02:40.38ckknighton the project page, branches aren't considered
02:40.59ckknighton said project page, the main details about the repository are gleamed from the repo called "mainline"
02:41.07ckknightif you make a clone, it will have its own page and all
02:41.20ckknighte.g. wobins-clone
02:41.29WobWorknods
02:41.36ckknightso you have /projects/mr-plow/repositories/wobins-clone/
02:41.40ckknightwhich can have its own files and all
02:41.46ckknightand all that good stuff
02:41.57ckknightthose files don't end up on curse or anything, it stays on curseforge
02:42.08Yssarilanyone here have any experiance with msysgit and its git gui?
02:42.12ckknightyou will likely eventually want to merge your changes from wobins-clone into mainline, though
02:42.51ckknightso you do that, changes go in, out pops a zip file, and the unwashed masses get a new update with all your changes from your experimental clone
02:43.55WobWorksounds good ck =)
02:44.06WobWorkhurrah for organisation =)
02:44.19Ellipsisnow if only there was a way to deploy slaps to the face automatically to users...
02:44.21WobWorkYssaril: From what I've seen, the gui is ... less than useful
02:44.38WobWorkEllipsis: If I developed that, I'd be independantly wealthy
02:44.55Ellipsisbut you'd share with me for giving you the idea, right? :)
02:45.00WobWorkSure
02:45.05Yssarilworks fine for commiting but pushing just kinda hangs (using git bash it goes right thru)
02:45.05WobWorkWith a slap to the face =)
02:45.15Ellipsisaww, you're no fun
02:46.24CIA-5803next96 * r81762 10ButtonFacade/Localization/koKR.lua:
02:46.24CIA-58ButtonFacade:
02:46.24CIA-58<PROTECTED>
02:47.22CIA-5803kagaro * r81763 10kgPanels/kgPanels.toc: kgPanels: toc update for email
02:48.06ulicwill CIA still be able to report commits for the new system?
02:48.26CIA-5803kagaro * r81764 10kgPanelsConfig/kgPanelsConfig.toc: kgPanelsConfig: toc update for email
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02:49.01EllipsisI hope so, I can't imagine life without CIA :(
02:49.07Yssarilulic: check out #CurseForge the Repo bot reports commits
02:49.20Ellipsishow would we be able to humiliate authors who make amusing typos in their commit notes?
02:49.33Kaeltenwe have a custom reporter bot
02:49.38Kaeltenallows for a few other neat tricks
02:49.42Kaeltenand we'll be adding more overtime
02:50.39Yssarilshould give some people the option to not have the bot report the commit :P
02:50.43CIA-5803starinnia * r81765 10SimpleMD/ (15 files in 2 dirs): SimpleMD: cleanup base folder a little, move locales, remove license.txt and tweak .toc slightly
02:54.16CIA-5803starinnia * r81766 10Prescription/ (Prescription.toc embeds.xml): Prescription: standardize some things for easier maintaining
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03:01.31Arrowmasteri still prefer CIA over the Repo bot....
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03:16.05CIA-5803ulic * r81768 10GuildBankMover/GuildBankMover.toc: GuildBankMover: Don't know that anyone ever used this except me, but adding my e-mail to the .toc anyway.
03:16.05CIA-5803starinnia * r81767 10Prescription_Pickup/ (Core.lua Prescription_Pickup.toc): Prescription_Pickup: add contact info
03:16.33ZhinjioBuh
03:17.06Ellipsislicks Zhinjio
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03:37.12Zhinjiohugs Ellipsis tight.
03:37.20Zhinjiohow're you?
03:38.22Ellipsispretty good, you?
03:40.58YssarilKaelten: how often does the packager run on beta.wowace?
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05:13.09aestilgod, m'uru is such a bitch.  i hate feeling like we suck.
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06:08.36magmais there any mod that will auto respond to a ready check?
06:09.18Lukianmagma, hehe I doubt it (I was wondering that myself)
06:10.32magmamy guild quite frequently keeps waitlisted people in the raid
06:10.49magmaand nobody cares if they are ready or not, so for them it would be nice to automatically respond yes
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06:55.56Wraithannevcairiel: Have the changes that have been mentioned for BT4 been propagated to live, or only on wotlk?
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07:11.43WobWorkso git vs hg, anyone got any good articles or opinions?
07:11.58Wraithangit if you are on linux, hg everywhere else?
07:12.11Wraithanis the general consensus I think
07:12.50WobWorkis that only due to lack of nice non-linux interface to git?
07:12.59Wraithanprimarily
07:14.03Wraithananyone know of a decent addon updated for linux, that will run on x86_64 without me having to go to large lengthe like sacrificing goats and such?
07:15.11WobWorka decent  what?
07:15.49Wraithansomething to update my addons so I don't have to go to 5 different sites and look up what addons are up to date?
07:16.01Wraithanwow addon updater*
07:16.15WobWorkoh
07:16.18WobWorkno idea on a global one
07:16.28WobWorkthe wowi one is java based
07:16.44Wraithanhmm, there is JWowUpdater...
07:16.57Wraithanguess I will have to install java and give that a go
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07:30.03theoddone33are people still doubting the nov 13 wotlk release date?
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07:31.15theoddone33someone was last night I think
07:35.48thulwell, well, well.
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07:41.39WraithanI was, and I had valid reason to.
07:42.08Wraithanit was posted on fan sites only, which is the equiv of being posted on game store sites.
07:43.20theoddone33it got posted to activision's investor relations email list
07:43.22theoddone33not sure when
07:43.31theoddone33monday 6:07 am
07:43.49theoddone33does anyone know if fel armor is spellstealable
07:43.56theoddone33it's not supposed to be dispellable
07:43.59theoddone33but still...
07:44.08theoddone33it's a really nice buff
07:44.19Ellipsisif it's not magic, you can't spellsteal it
07:44.28Ellipsisif it's not magic, you can't dispel/purge it
07:44.36Ellipsisit's not magic, so...draw your conclusions from there :P
07:44.53theoddone33that's too bad
07:45.03ThraeThey say Love is a magical thing.
07:45.04theoddone33I can spellsteal it off the warlocks in sunwellville
07:45.21Thraespellsteals all your Love.
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07:47.33[ArPharazon]theoddone33 - is nov13 official wolk date ?
07:47.39theoddone33yes
07:47.49[ArPharazon]superb
07:48.00[ArPharazon]has it been announced somewhere
07:48.26theoddone33my email box
07:48.28theoddone33:(
07:48.35theoddone33i'm on the investor relations email list
07:48.37theoddone33for activision
07:48.42theoddone33but it doesn't appear to be on their site yet
07:48.50[ArPharazon]ah nvm - its on the wow homepage
07:48.52[ArPharazon]:D
07:49.51theoddone33collector's edition gets a mini frost wyrm pet
07:50.03theoddone33totally worth an extra $30!
07:51.00Adirelle|workKaelten: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/596-repositories-faq-ssh-key-format/ ?
07:51.02Arrowmasteryou wouldnt happen to know a date for when they are pushing to put 3.0 on live would you?
07:51.19Arrowmasterstill need my bear mount
07:51.38theoddone33you can still get it after 3.0 can't you?
07:51.38Arrowmasterand i cant even fucking raid for a week now
07:51.40Arrowmasterno
07:51.46theoddone33really? that sucks
07:51.54Arrowmasterfucking Ike talking out my power
07:59.16Adirelle|work~seen kaelten
07:59.17purlkaelten is currently on #waruidev (6h 11m 29s) #wowprogramming (6h 11m 29s) #norganna (6h 11m 29s) #wowuidev (6h 11m 29s) #wowace (6h 11m 29s) #curseforge (6h 11m 29s). Has said a total of 23 messages. Is idling for 5h 9m 35s, last said: 'and we'll be adding more overtime'.
08:00.39CrazyBennyAdirelle|work: if you're on windows, use puttygen, that key works for sure ;)
08:01.13ArrowmasterAdirelle|work: its OpenSSH
08:01.23Arrowmasternobody fucking uses ssh.com
08:01.23Adirelle|workone-liner begginning with ssh-rsa ?
08:01.27Arrowmasteryes
08:01.40thulhttp://lucid-tv.com/146.html
08:01.46Adirelle|workI know but the PEM ssh format still exists
08:01.49Arrowmasteror ssh-dsa but dsa keys are less secure
08:02.26Adirelle|workanyway, tried with openssh key and password, none works
08:02.43Adirelle|workbut I'll retry, there is maybe some delay between web page settings and repo update
08:02.47mitch0dsa keys are less secure since when?
08:03.00mitch0just double the keysize if you feel unsecure about it...
08:03.23Arrowmasterby less secure i just ment in theory they take fewer years to bruteforce than rsa keys
08:03.42Arrowmasteri use 4096bit rsa keys for everything
08:03.50mitch0eh ;)
08:03.53mitch0paranoid much? :)
08:03.58Arrowmasteryes
08:04.24Arrowmasteryou get to be when you know for a 100% fact that you have been monitored before
08:04.29Adirelle|workIIRC, dsa are rumored to be insecure because the algorithm has been published by the usa governement
08:04.41mitch0adirelle: are you sure it's not a server side problem? sshd is kinda picky about the permissions on the _full path_ to your authorized_keys file
08:04.46Arrowmasterrsa lgorithm is known too
08:05.08Arrowmasterservers fine
08:05.09Adirelle|workmitch0: it's curseforge wowace server, I have no control over it
08:05.12mitch0arrow: I hope that was an intended pun
08:05.19Arrowmasterare you trying to use svn or git?
08:05.26Arrowmasterwhat client os?
08:05.48Arrowmasterrsa pattent expired
08:06.23Adirelle|workArrowmaster: the problem is not that the algorithm is known (gladfully it is) but some paranoid people think the governement has introduced a way to crack it into dsa one
08:06.42Adirelle|workArrowmaster: xp, putty, tortoisesvn
08:06.56Arrowmastertortoisesvn comes with its own plink
08:06.57Adirelle|workArrowmaster: but this is tortoise that spit out an error : no authentication method available
08:07.12Arrowmastermake sure the key it in pageant
08:07.40Arrowmasterhate this laptop keyboard
08:07.54mitch0adirelle: try to connect with that key with some ssh client that supports debug output (like ssh -v)
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08:09.23Adirelle|workactually I'm using ssh for years with success, both as user and server admin, so I suppose I'm just lacking some information about the server setup
08:10.01Arrowmasterwell i cant really test right now but i know it works fine on curseforge
08:10.46Arrowmasterand my complex putty setup on my desktop works flawlessly
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08:11.07Thrae"Complex PuTTY"?
08:11.40Arrowmasteri have saved sessions for every host with the key and username set explicitly
08:11.57ThraeAh, I see.
08:12.30Arrowmasterand multiple keys in pageant so instead of trying each key available it only trys the one explicitly set
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08:13.40Arrowmasteri have heard about but never personally experienced ssh servers not allowing access because of too many keys in your local sshagent and it attempting too many incorrect ones before it gets to the correct one
08:14.04Adirelle|workhmm, am I overlooking something
08:14.08Adirelle|workprojet repo : http://beta.wowace.com/projects/simple-self-rebuff/repositories/mainline/
08:14.24Adirelle|workthis page tells the url is svn+ssh://svn.wowace.com/wow/simple-self-rebuff/mainline/trunk
08:14.36Adirelle|workso I should connect to svn.wowace.com, right ?
08:14.43Adirelle|workas "adirelle" (lowercased)
08:15.34Arrowmasteractually i dont think so
08:15.47Arrowmasterwith git everybody uses the username 'git'
08:16.20Arrowmasterand it identifies users by the ssh key
08:16.27Adirelle|workhmm...
08:16.47Arrowmastertry 'svn' as the username
08:17.09Arrowmasteri havent actually used svn+ssh with curseforge yet
08:17.25Adirelle|workhttp://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/pages/repository-faq/#w_how-do-i-actually-use-my-repository-now-subversion
08:17.38Adirelle|workpoint 6: "Your username is your CurseForge login in lowercase"
08:17.49Adirelle|worki'll try svn anyway
08:17.51Lukian!ar 1309
08:17.57Lukian!ap 1309
08:18.06Adirelle|worksame result with svn
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08:19.01Arrowmasterhmm not sure then
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08:19.27Arrowmasteryour using ssh2 right?
08:22.31Adirelle|workyep
08:22.31Adirelle|workand it works
08:22.40Arrowmasterit does?
08:22.49Adirelle|workactually I'm connected to IRC through a tunnel to my home computer
08:22.53Adirelle|workwith that keys
08:22.58Adirelle|work-s
08:23.04renchaphow can i get ownership of my project on new wowace ?
08:23.14Arrowmasterrenchap: read the news annoucement
08:23.48ArrowmasterAdirelle|work: i dont think it matters but ckk could have fucked up the key parser and it might require the comment at the end even if it ignores it
08:24.03Arrowmasteryou didnt enter that part in
08:24.20Adirelle|workoh...
08:24.21Adirelle|workI did
08:24.25Adirelle|worktrying again ...
08:24.28Arrowmasteryou did?
08:24.39Adirelle|workI did strip it
08:24.43Adirelle|workI'll add it back
08:24.46Arrowmasteroh
08:25.35Arrowmasterrenchap: if you want ownership of your project for now i can give it to you if you just want to mess around until its reset
08:26.10renchapArrowmaster: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/jump-counter/ account: renchap
08:27.00Arrowmasterdone
08:27.10Arrowmasteryou can delete the wowaceSVN author
08:29.06digmouseGulthogg's Arcing Smash effect not dispellable right?
08:29.12renchapthanks
08:29.15Adirelle|workI added a comment, I even copied the whole key again in case I made a typo
08:29.29Adirelle|workstill not working
08:30.11Arrowmasteri dont really know then, they dont let me into anything other than what access they give me to stuff on the website
08:31.36Adirelle|workit seems it doesn't accept keyword authentication either
08:32.11Arrowmasteryou have to use the non ssh url for that
08:32.12Adirelle|workmaybe did I missed some message about "svn repos being ready soon(tm)"...
08:32.21Arrowmasterno clue
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08:34.12Adirelle|workis svn: supposed to be the dav-based protocol ?
08:34.35mitch0no
08:34.45Arrowmastertheres no webdav access i dont think
08:34.48mitch0http(s) is the dav-based one
08:35.51Adirelle|workah ok, I forgot the custom protocol
08:36.02Adirelle|workI think I never saw it used once
08:36.06Fisker-http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/5875597658-1509-blizzard-authenticator-now-in-stock.html <-lol
08:36.20Fisker-Thought it took them 2 months to get it in stock so they could have some actual lasting stock on it
08:37.45Adirelle|workgrmbl, doesn't work either: "no repository found"
08:38.58FinalXFisker-: I've had 5 of the authenticators for 2 months already :P
08:39.34Fisker-also got one
08:39.43Fisker-got it from the first ones in stock
08:40.25Wraithan!seen nevcairiel
08:40.30nevcairielwut?
08:40.51Fisker-~seen nevcairiel
08:40.53purlnevcairiel is currently on #wowprogramming #wowuidev #wowace #curseforge. Has said a total of 1069 messages. Is idling for 23s, last said: 'wut?'.
08:41.02nevcairiel~lart Fisker-
08:41.02purljudo chops Fisker-
08:41.02Wraithanthose changes you were talking bout (the snaping and such) are the propagated to live? or just wotlk?
08:41.09nevcairielWraithan: just wotlk
08:41.13Wraithanlame
08:41.22Wraithanhave to rebuild my UI because I reinstalled
08:41.28Wraithanwas hoping I could just switch over
08:41.57Arrowmasteri wonder if ckk left the cronjob on that moves all projects without files after a week for the new wowace beta
08:41.59Wraithannevcairiel: well I look forward to 3.0
08:42.24nevcairielArrowmaster: well everything with a repo will get alpha files
08:43.10Fisker-lieks
08:45.51Wraithanguess I will stick with dominos for now, until 3.0 and BT4 having all the features I want
08:47.34Arrowmasternevcairiel: thats only if it gets commited to
08:47.59nevcairielright now, yeah .. but i think its smart to just pack every addon that gets converted
08:49.27Arrowmasterprobably
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08:51.53Wraithanstatblock vs fortress?
08:52.10Adirelle|workpersonnaly I like fortress better
08:52.41Adirelle|workit uses lego blocks, that are sticky thus easier to move around
08:53.49Adirelle|workI'd like it even more if there was some option to change the padding/border size
08:55.13Arrowmasterhttp://idle.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/15/1555236
08:56.34WraithanArrowmaster: that is awesome
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08:58.32Arrowmastercheck the last link
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09:00.33KalrothBruce for president!
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09:08.50cncfanaticsg'morning all
09:09.08Wraithancncfanatics: hey man
09:10.41Fisker-cncfanatics is awesome
09:11.37cncfanaticsFisker-: totaly agree
09:11.48Adirelle|workthat statement seems biased
09:16.02WraithanAnyone use TourGuide?
09:16.24Adirelle|workI do
09:16.27cncfanaticsI used to
09:16.37Wraithanwould I miss QH by using it?
09:16.56Wraithancncfanatics: got my system running btw, the problem was I didn't have the 32bit nvidia libs installed
09:17.00nevcairielTG+LH = Win
09:17.01Adirelle|workdunno, I never used QH
09:17.14WraithanLH?
09:17.19nevcairielLightHeaded
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09:18.19Kalrothnevcairieled
09:19.38cncfanaticsWraithan: you running a 64 bit system ?
09:19.40Wraithannevcairiel: do you use TomTom also, or something else to fix that
09:19.42Wraithancncfanatics: yae
09:19.46Wraithancncfanatics: aye*
09:19.50nevcairielyeah i use TomTom as well
09:19.58Wraithaner not fix, but fit that
09:20.13cncfanaticsindeed :) has that too, needed lib32-nvidia-system (not 100% sure of the name)
09:20.19cncfanaticss/has/had/
09:20.44JY`mmh
09:21.19JY`test
09:21.22JY`s/s/x/
09:21.25JY`oh
09:21.26JY`:p
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09:22.31Wraithancncfanatics: if it wouldn't be so much work I would make a pacman-like installer for addons
09:23.32cncfanaticsWraithan: that'd be cool, but would need a lot of depency handling heh
09:23.39Wraithancncfanatics: aye =(
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09:24.33Wraithanheh actually, I could make it more AUR, and have it hit the site or svn or whatever and get the latest version via a pkgbuild
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09:27.00cncfanaticsthats what updaters do alread though Wraithan :)
09:27.43Wraithanwhat updater do you use? wowmatrix took a shit when i tried to run it, only other one I found so far is JWowUpdater but I ahven't run it
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09:30.42cncfanaticsdon't *ever* *ever* use wowmatrix please :p
09:30.51cncfanaticsJWoWUpdater is nice
09:31.11Wraithanit had a linux client, that I found out isn't compatible with x86_64
09:31.48SunTsuWraithan: I use JWU on FreeBSD, works great
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09:36.00cncfanatics1back
09:36.06cncfanatics1my mom had to magnificient idea of disconnecting the router's power
09:36.17Wraithanheh
09:36.20Wraithangood times
09:36.22Arrowmasterquit your bitching
09:36.25Arrowmasteratleast you have power
09:36.47WraithanArrowmaster: you dont?
09:36.50Arrowmasterno
09:36.56cncfanaticsthen how are you on internet ? :p
09:36.59Wraithanand you are on the internet?
09:37.00Arrowmasterlaptop
09:37.06Wraithanlaptop via?
09:37.13cncfanaticsvia what router ? :o
09:37.30Arrowmasterand a 300watt inverter in my car with a powercord running into the house to power the cable modem, router, and laptop
09:37.47WraithanArrowmaster: where are you located/
09:37.56WraithanTX?
09:38.18Arrowmastermy car battery died around 12:30 lastnight and i got it jumpstarted at 1am and let it run till 2m
09:38.20Arrowmasteram
09:38.25Arrowmasterno, Ohio
09:39.39Arrowmasterand the estimate is that i wont have power back until thursday-sunday
09:40.18Adirelle|work~seen ckknight
09:40.19purlckknight is currently on #waruidev (9h 56m 50s) #norganna (9h 56m 50s) #wowuidev (9h 56m 50s) #wowace (9h 56m 50s) #curseforge (9h 56m 50s). Has said a total of 87 messages. Is idling for 6h 1m 8s, last said: 'yes'.
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10:06.22Wraithancncfanatics: heh, do you run in twinview mode?
10:06.41cncfanaticstwinview mode ?
10:06.44cncfanaticswhat is that ? :o
10:06.57Wraithanwhat nvidia-settings calls dualview
10:07.08Wraithanfor multi displays
10:07.19cncfanaticsI'm on a laptop thats never connected to any other screens
10:07.23WraithanAh
10:08.13Wraithanwell, if you ever do... be careful wow/wine/whatever will detect your screen size as both of the monitors together, so you have to set the resolution in the config.wtf
10:08.24Wraithanwell, it could be due to the tiler I am using also
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10:12.08Wraithandoes fubar2broker work very well?
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10:17.27vhaarrye works perfectly here
10:20.33Fisker-holy
10:20.54Fisker-AH prices have totally crashed here :o
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10:21.08Fisker-a lot of stuff is being sold like 50% of the price it was 2 days ago
10:21.08Pkekyo|http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/fail-owned-wordsearch-fail.jpg bwahahahah
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10:25.06digmouseAsk: how does Fubar2Broker do?
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10:25.29WraithanIt is working well, but I only have like 2 fubar addons right now
10:25.31digmouseInstall broker and it will convert fubar plugins onto it?
10:25.45SunTsu.o0( broker2fubar seems not to be working as expected at the moment )
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10:25.54Wraithaninstall a broker display addon and it will let them use fubar plugins
10:26.01Wraithansuch as fortress
10:26.21digmousewhat if I wanna make my fubar addons work on fortress?
10:26.31Wraithanum
10:26.33WraithanThat is what I said
10:26.53digmousethat's good :D I just cant stand fubar mem usage anymore
10:26.59WraithanIt will let a LDB display addon use fubar plugins
10:27.01cncfanatics...
10:27.07cncfanaticsits not like you lack memory anyway digmouse
10:27.52digmousecnc: when I raid my mem usage boost up to 75MB or so, so I wanna bring the big guys down and make everything smaller
10:28.17Wraithan*shrug* my mem usage was over 150mb before during raids
10:28.26cncfanaticsdoesnt' rly matter if it doesn't slow you down rly
10:28.30digmouseo.O crazy
10:28.39Wraithancncfanatics: exactly, didn't slow me down so I didn't care
10:29.43cncfanaticsdigmouse: I just don't get why you care :p except if you're on a comp with less then 1GB memory it shldnt matter at all
10:30.19digmouse*shrug* I just wanna make things clear and tidy who knows
10:30.31Wraithandigmouse: my UI was clean and tidy
10:30.39Wraithanjust not the memory usage of it heh
10:30.41digmouseI'm kinda sick of little numbers
10:31.14cncfanaticsif you want to make things clean & tidy you rly shldnt go by memory usage :)
10:31.51digmouseOK next time I'll disable mem usage display and I wont care about it
10:32.03digmouseI'm calm and cool
10:32.07Wraithanexactly :D
10:32.28Wraithanif my performance isn't suffering, then I really don't care about addon memory usage
10:32.46Wraithanfunctionality and looks are all I care about really
10:33.05digmousebut my UI is not clean and tidy :(
10:35.46WraithanAny way to show the % done of the current guide in the LDB display of TomTom?
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10:36.04digmousehttp://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12412820vu0.jpg my guidies gone crazy seeing my UI
10:36.48Wraithandigmouse: for a while, take what you have there, and then add another monitor full of addon crap
10:36.51digmouseAND, forget about the language
10:37.04Wraithanthat is what I was running for a while, before I cleaned up my UI
10:37.33digmouseand I've tuned up it a little now ,disabled some repeated message in Parrot and CDT2
10:37.41digmouseand they feel better
10:38.49CarancuI can't understand how you can play with that much going on on the screen at once :P
10:39.45digmouseI'm not a healer and not RL so I just need to care my target and what happened around me
10:39.53cncfanaticstime to eat
10:39.55cncfanaticscya all
10:39.56digmouseso that dont bother much
10:40.10vhaarrdigmouse: why do you should party buffs, raid player levels, and why do you have the command bar shown and the bag bar?
10:40.10digmouseand it's dinner time for me~
10:40.17vhaarrs/should/show/
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10:40.53vhaarrand party portraits?
10:41.13digmousevhaarr: that's what I've tuned up, the menu bar and bag bar now show up on mouseover
10:41.27digmouseand, I like portraits ^^
10:41.29vhaarrand party targetS?
10:41.41vhaarrscrolling combat text, why do you use it, do you ever read what it says?
10:41.55vhaarrespecially since you have the combat log visible anyway
10:42.11Carancuhttp://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/carancu/WoWScrnShot_071708_171733.jpg Apart from my msbt my ui haven't changed much from that (I'm a Tank normally)
10:42.39Carancumy hunter uses the same ui in fact.
10:42.47WraithanCarancu: what are the crazy symbols for?
10:43.01Carancuthose are my combopoints.
10:43.44CarancuI use Lorhin to show the number of points, was the first type of triggers I made to betatest the addon, and then they stuck as I liked them
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10:44.39digmouseI need to tune up parrot some, make it only show icon and number
10:45.07WraithanWhat does parrot do?
10:45.32digmousedisplay my damage and something
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11:33.52winkillerlike sct
11:42.54Gagorianso Fisker-
11:43.32Fisker-so Gagorian
11:43.53Fisker-After getting that melee debuff my healing jumped around 400%
11:43.55Fisker->.3
11:43.56Fisker->:3
11:44.04Fisker-well according to dr damage of course
11:44.06Fisker-not rly
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11:55.18GagorianFisker-: Liar. *coughs*
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12:02.28Fisker-never Gagorian
12:03.15GagorianWell your compulsive lying disorder is fixed in the latest version
12:03.40GagorianCIA-58 is sucking so apparently no commit messages
12:04.21Fisker-no new version here yet
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12:08.57ag`-_-;;
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12:29.00[SW]Dodgeis teh achviement data gathering on live active? want to redo the explorations :P
12:29.18nevcairielexploration is retroactive
12:29.28nevcairielbecause, uh, the map knows what you've discovered already
12:32.57Groktarwatches nevcairiel from a dark corner
12:33.48Groktarpounces nevcairiel and sucks out his soul
12:33.52[SW]Dodgeafter ptr copy my char does not have all explorations i have
12:33.57[SW]Dodgeno westfall no ghostlands
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12:34.30Groktarhow do you know you've finished both?
12:35.40[SW]Dodgeah ok, i see that the zones have subzones which have to be explored ~.~
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12:36.02Slayman~purl cookie
12:36.38Slaymanhello y'all!
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12:37.08[SW]Dodgesomeone knows how the addon was called that shows me which zones i didnt have explored?
12:37.35winkillernevcairiel: you got any hint how *exact* those are? like sometimes there's no "fog of war" on the map and you still miss one subregion that gives discovery exyp
12:37.50[SW]Dodgesome days ago i saw one what adds an info field to the map, or is ther a way to get information about explored zones?
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12:37.57nevcairielonly the fog of war regions are required for the achievement
12:38.12nevcairielthere are alot more subregions that give some exp
12:38.22winkillercool
12:38.25winkillerthanks
12:38.59kenlyricso you're safe as long as there's no green on your map
12:39.08kenlyricor whatever color you use for fog of war
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12:40.16nevcairielya
12:40.33nevcairielI think i have all exploration with my main
12:40.40Wraithanauditorfu not work via fubar2broker + fortress?
12:40.49winkillerI'm missing bits and pieces somewhere
12:40.49Stanzilla[SW]Dodge: cargExplorer on wowi
12:41.04winkillernothing that's not easily fixed on one day for 2-3 toons
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12:41.23[SW]DodgeStanzilla: thanks :D
12:42.25WraithanAnyone using AuditorFu with Fortress?
12:42.30SunTsuI like exploration XP... "OK, just one quest to deliver and that should be my level up.... Where the heck is that npc?" "You just discovered eastern plaguelands and received xyx XP" *ding*
12:42.50WraithanSunTsu: I got level 60 and level 70 that way
12:42.52Wraithanbecause I could.
12:42.54Wraithanlol
12:43.35kenlyricyou don't get triple exploration xp in recruit-a-friend :(
12:43.41kenlyricclearly an oversight
12:43.48Wraithankenlyric: QQ moar
12:45.02kenlyricit's a burden
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12:49.27harlis there a way to find out the reason someone is AFK or DND without sending him or her a message?
12:50.11nevcairieldont think so
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12:51.38harlok. too bad.
12:53.58WraithanSay I was calling globals from another addon to set or unset options, if I just wanted to make some options that show up in the interface options window, it should be really simple right?
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13:07.14Adirelle|work~seen kaelten
13:07.18purlkaelten is currently on #waruidev (5m 8s) #wowprogramming (5m 8s) #norganna (5m 8s) #wowuidev (5m 8s) #wowace (5m 8s) #curseforge (5m 8s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 3m 3s, last said: 'g'morning'.
13:07.23Kaelten:P
13:07.28Adirelle|workyeah
13:07.54Kaelteng'morning
13:07.57Kaeltensup?
13:08.03Adirelle|workI have some issue with the cf beta repos, I'm wondering if it was a bug or if I'm kinda dumb
13:08.18KaeltenI
13:08.20KaeltenI
13:08.21Kaeltenbah
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13:08.29KaeltenI'll reserve my opinions till I hear more information
13:08.33Kaeltenwhats the issue
13:08.39Adirelle|workwait
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13:09.10Adirelle|workI'm trying to access this repository : http://beta.wowace.com/projects/simple-self-rebuff/repositories/mainline/
13:09.38Adirelle|workusing instruction of the repo FAQ
13:09.41Kaeltenah, use newsvn.wowace.com
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13:09.53Adirelle|workxD
13:09.54Kaeltencan't switch over svn.wowace.com without cutting access to the current repo
13:10.12Kaeltenbut keep in mind that the repo there is going to get wiped for import on friday
13:10.41Adirelle|workI do
13:10.54Kaeltenkk :)
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13:11.49ckknightKaelten: the repos aren't in place for public consumption yet
13:12.40Kaelten?
13:12.40ckknightthey're not in place and such
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13:13.00ckknightso not sure what newsvn.wowace.com will point to :-P
13:13.00Adirelle|workoh
13:13.25Adirelle|workso I guess the ssh access aren't in place either
13:13.40ckknightaccess to what?
13:13.51Adirelle|workthe svn repos xD
13:13.54ckknightit'd be the same thing.
13:13.56ckknightexactly.
13:13.56Wraithanyum, I love netsplits
13:13.59ckknightso obviously not
13:14.35Kaeltenckknight: newsvn.wowace.com points to the repos server
13:14.37Kaeltenthe new one
13:14.42ckknightokay
13:15.03ckknightwell that's all well and good, but the converted wowace repos aren't in place yet on the repos server
13:15.04ckknight:-P
13:17.14KaeltenI know
13:18.21Adirelle|workdoes the profile SSH auth page do anything, even on this empty repos server ?
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13:21.17ckknightyea
13:21.40ckknighttechnically, if you were to make a new project and a new repo, it'd all be golden
13:22.29Adirelle|workok, and that new project will be wiped friday ? (we may continue this talking on #curseforge)
13:22.39ckknightyes.
13:22.52nevcairielits currently only for testing the new setup
13:22.55ckknightall projects on the wowace site will be wiped
13:22.56nevcairielall will be removed
13:22.58kagaroKaelten:  so we migrate friday then
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13:23.07ckknightif you want to help test, please do make projects and such
13:23.13Kaeltenthere is one assumption in there
13:23.17Kaeltenbut yes thats the plan
13:23.22ckknightKaelten: hardware in place?
13:23.27ckknightis that the assumption?
13:23.29ckknightor what?
13:23.36kagaroits gona suck only having a windows client for curse client i can hear my guildies bitching now
13:23.46Kaeltenckknight: that the new curse.com launches on thursday
13:23.55ckknightwe'll have a mac client soon enough, linux client soon after that
13:23.58ckknightKaelten: ah, right
13:23.59charonkagaro: *cough* svn/git/hg *cough*
13:24.13kagarocharon:  its not me im talking about
13:24.19ckknightwowace comes after curse.com, if that gets delayed, wowace gets delayed
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13:24.38charon(yeah it's more load, but linuxers are usually clever enough to not hit the update button every two minutes hoping for updates)
13:25.03ckknightnot all.
13:25.07ckknight:-P
13:25.17charonhmm
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13:25.24ckknightin any event, as long as svn up doesn't become a widespread phenomenon, it shouldn't be a huge deal
13:25.39charondon't shatter my carefully built illusion of a world view :(
13:26.16nevcairielMan i should write a script to remap all my svn checkouts to CF
13:26.29kagaroim just gona re-checkout
13:26.43ckknightnevcairiel: you'd need to match up old project -> new project
13:26.53ckknightand the author of the new project may change names after-the-fact
13:27.00ckknightor merge with another project
13:27.01ckknightand such.
13:27.08nevcairielhe will be slapped accordingly, then
13:27.22ckknightno, it'll need to happen
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13:27.35ckknighta lot will be misnamed
13:27.58Kaeltenthere is going to be a phase of transition over the next few weeks.
13:28.05ckknightfor example, if the project tries an already existing name, e.g. PitBull -> pit-bull, it already exists, it becomes wowace-pit-bull
13:28.08kenlyricARG
13:28.13ckknightat which point, I'd merge them into pit-bull
13:28.17kenlyricthe email section on curse is still broken
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13:28.24Kaeltenkenlyric: ?
13:28.26Kaeltenwhats up man
13:28.33Kaeltenor rather what are you trying to do?
13:28.33kenlyricwhy the hell don't they show your email address with everything else?
13:28.39kenlyrichttp://my.curse.com/account/profile/emails/
13:28.43Kaeltenlol, the current curse.com is broke
13:28.47kenlyrictrying to find out why my curse email address is
13:28.55Kaeltenusername?
13:29.17kenlyricnever mind, I'm an idiot
13:29.22Kaeltenlol
13:29.23kenlyricI just searhed in gmail
13:29.43Kaeltenwell I can double check for you if you tell me your username :P
13:29.45Adirelle|workkaelten, is there some delay between project creation, repository type choosing and the effective creation of the repo ?
13:29.59KaeltenAdirelle|work: should be miniscule
13:30.07ckknightAdirelle|work: there is a human delay between project creation and repo type choosing
13:30.16ckknightcreation of the repo can take up to 10 seconds
13:30.30ckknightbut likely just 1 or so
13:30.43Adirelle|workI meant "'til next batch", if it was done in a batch (like packaging)
13:30.51KaeltenAdirelle|work: no its a real time queue
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13:31.30Kaeltenckknight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-4UN4MkSyI
13:31.33Kaeltenits scary
13:31.37Adirelle|worknewsvn.wowace.com damn it, not svn.wowace.com
13:31.42Kaeltenlol
13:31.47nevcairielckknight: when you import the repos, you insert them for a alpha build in the packager queue?
13:32.01ckknightnevcairiel: no, we're gonna import the old files
13:32.15ckknightKaelten: it's zeeg, get him away!
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13:32.22nevcairielthe latest only?
13:32.24nevcairielor like, all?
13:32.40nevcairiel(and can i opt my project out of that? =P)
13:32.50ckknightall
13:32.59ckknightthere was no plans to opt-out
13:33.04ckknighttalk to Kaelten, he said to import files
13:33.06ckknight:-P
13:33.27nevcairieli would end up deleting those files anyway
13:33.29Kaeltenducks
13:33.41nevcairieland from what i've seen, deleted files still hang around in the display
13:34.18Kaeltennevcairiel: its because you can see deleted files
13:34.30ckknightnevcairiel: cause you're a moderator
13:34.33Fisker-Kaelten
13:34.38KaeltenFisker-:
13:34.39nevcairielI dont want to see them!
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13:34.43nevcairiel:P
13:35.00[SW]Dodgehuh? newsvn.wowace.com ?
13:35.03nevcairielor more specific, i dont want a million old ace versions in my new wowace projects
13:35.04Fisker-So friday means that WAU will be shut down, or how does that work?
13:35.29ckknightwe should shut it down earlier for you, Fisker-, out of spite.
13:35.33Fisker-yeah
13:35.43KaeltenFisker-: first step is, we get the new site fully up. then we work on taking down files.
13:35.46Fisker-I'm on the premium part of the users on the test client hoho
13:35.57Kaeltenreboot brb
13:35.59Fisker-Just want to easy my guild into the new system
13:36.05Fisker-ease*
13:36.37nevcairielckknight: wtb "purge deleted files" option :P
13:36.52ckknightdoubt you'll get it
13:36.55ckknighttalk to Kaelten
13:36.57ckknightor file a ticket
13:37.30Adirelle|workok, so the svn://url works
13:37.39nevcairielI just dont like having hundreds of old revisions imported as files, specially if i choose to not build alphas at all afterwards
13:39.48ckknightnevcairiel: I understand the need, and I'm not discounting it, but it's ultimately a policy decision that Kaelten needs to be the deciding factor on
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13:40.48Fisker-i'm giving a discount on all policies
13:40.49Fisker-lolol
13:40.50Fisker-etc.
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13:43.05thulwhat is it with people and talking about "evolution is just another theory" ?
13:43.33Adirelle|workbeware, sloppy subject
13:43.33WraithanYup, it is, just like gravity.
13:43.57Megalonthul: there is always the other one, the one with the great pink flying teapot who created everything
13:44.08thulMegalon: exactly my point
13:44.15thulWraithan: and yes, I just used that example.
13:44.18thulIceKarma: well, how hard is it to understand the distinction between "gravity happens, that is a fact, the how's and why's we have different theories about"?
13:44.22thul(another room)
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13:51.45kenlyricgravity is a theory, hitting the ground is proof
13:52.07Wraithanugh, I hate it when I know it is going to be hot later in the day
13:52.09kenlyricthul: that's the fundamental thing that people don't understand about science.
13:53.08Wraithanit is going to be 92 today, so right now while it is less than 60 out I have fans blowing into my house once the temp gets above 70ish I shut my house up completely so it doesn't get hot
13:53.11Wraithanbut I am cold in the morning
13:53.16Wraithannot sure it is worth it
13:53.56thulkenlyric: well, I just don't get why people don't understand it
13:54.06kenlyricoh
13:54.08kenlyricpeople are dumb
13:54.18kenlyricand, to be honest, they aren't taught it very well in school
13:54.32thulwell, THAT is the main problem
13:54.36Wraithaneh
13:54.58Wraithany'all can't say for an absolute fact that evolution is the only way we got to where we are.
13:55.07thuleven in very open minded societies in norway, where science and education is central, people learn to do what the teacher says, to listen blindly and basically: HAVE FAITH.
13:55.09kenlyricI think we'd learn better if there was creation science in the classroom
13:55.25kenlyricyou get better at knowing what science is by recognizing when it is done badly.
13:55.26thulif you question authority, if you bring in other sources, if you have own opinions, you get penalized.
13:55.43thulthis lasts until bachleor degrees or even master degrees levels in some parts.
13:55.46thulthis saddens me :/
13:57.01WraithanWhat saddens me is when people call faith stupid, to be quite honest, I am a non-believer in an denomination, I am pretty sure evolution is the correct way of looking at things, but I am not so cocky to asume others are stupid for having faith in what THEY have been taught
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13:57.41thulwell, blind faith IS stupid to me.
13:57.47thulblind belief, blind faith.
13:57.55Wraithanfor the most part the proponents of evolution are no different than the proponents of creationism, both just regurgitating what they have been taught, neither with emperical evidence on hand
13:57.56kenlyricI have faith in the power of stupidity to move the world
13:58.05thulWraithan: I have to disagree.
13:58.16kenlyricno, i agree
13:58.25thulWraithan: I have read quite a few books on evolution the last years, and none of those have based their arguments on "I have been taught"
13:58.41kenlyriche didn't say books
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13:58.44kenlyriche said people
13:58.50kenlyricand idiots are everywhere
13:58.51thulthey might base their theories indirectly on empircal evidence by citing other authors.
13:59.01thulhe said proponents of evolution kenlyric.
13:59.07kenlyricthat would be people
13:59.39Wraithanunless you feel books have opinions outside of the people who wrote them, in which case you may fall more into the side of faith than science
13:59.55kenlyricit's one of the reasons the argument lives, proponents can be just as clueless about presenting the theory
14:00.06KriLL3guys, this isn't the time or the place
14:00.15Pkekyo|PANTS!
14:00.21Wraithan!lart KriLL3
14:00.23kenlyricsends flying monkeys after krill
14:00.24Wraithangah
14:00.29Wraithanwrong channel
14:00.33Wraithan~lart KriLL3
14:00.33purltakes out a cattle prod and gives KriLL3 a good jolt
14:01.45thulWraithan: I don't know if I understand you correctly, you think that every single person alive should check out every single scientific fact, or else they just have faith?
14:02.02thulas far as I'm concerned, if I understand you right, we have a very different view on what "science" is then :-P
14:02.25Wraithanlets not continue this here, as KriLL3 said it isn't the right place
14:02.43Wraithan#offtopic
14:02.52WraithanI am there if ya want to continue
14:03.00thul:-(
14:03.15thulI'll create #science, but I think that it is already there?
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14:08.30JoshBorkeTOSA
14:08.36ckknightWraithan: woo, evolution ftw! woo retarded fish frog!
14:09.13SunTsu.o0( Just have some evolutionist and a kreationist play spore together and look how it turns out )
14:09.47Wraithanckknight: heh, I believe in evolution, but I like to debate, especially messing with peoples words
14:10.06ckknightevolution takes place exactly how Spore represents it.
14:10.16ckknightclearly.
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14:10.42ckknightthough actually Spore by its very nature is somewhat intelligent design
14:11.42KriLL3well it wouldn't be much of a game if you had no input on the designs, it kinda hard to be, doesn't mean will is devote ID guy
14:12.22SunTsuckknight: Exactly that's why I mentioned it
14:13.06ckknightthe flying spaghetti monster shall touch you with his noodly appendage.
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14:20.45kenlyricnom nom nom
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14:23.23digmousethe beta realms close along side PTR or continue some test after 3.0 goes live?
14:23.45nevcairielthe PTR will probably close when 3.0 goes live
14:23.48nevcairielnot sure about beta
14:24.00nevcairielprobably not
14:24.01digmousethink the beta will continue
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14:24.17digmousesince PTR only tests thing outside northrend
14:24.34digmouses/thing/things/
14:25.11WraithanIf I am using AceConfig-3.0 do I have to use all Ace3 stuff? or can I mix and match
14:25.46digmousemost parts of Ace3 are standalone I think
14:25.50WraithanI am considering updating an addon (AuditorFu) to work with ldb, and one of the main problems right now is the config stuff
14:25.55nevcairielFor AceConfig-3.0 you only need AceGUI-3.0
14:26.01nevcairieleverything else is standalone
14:26.03[Ammo]and cbh
14:26.09Wraithancbh?
14:26.11nevcairielthats a given :P
14:26.13digmouseU dont need to use AceAddon-3.0 if u try write ace3 config
14:26.17SunTsuchexsum_: A guild mate of mine tried CombatAlert and your LibFeedBack-1.1 does not seem to satisfy the dependencies of it
14:26.46Wraithan[Ammo]: what I cbh?
14:26.50Wraithaner, what is
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14:29.15thulwhat do we do about patents?
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15:03.05harlbah. gordon ramsay sucks.
15:04.00kenlyricthat was random
15:04.02kenlyricand no
15:04.08kenlyriche just sucks on american TV
15:04.50thulwho is gordon ramsay?
15:05.06Zyndromethe angry chef
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15:05.33Zyndromehost of Hells Kitchen
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15:06.22KriLL3that's a sucky show
15:06.27harlindeed.
15:06.29thulhmm
15:06.30thulnever seedn
15:06.31thulseen
15:06.40KriLL3basically he yells at people in a kitchen
15:06.42KriLL3that's it
15:07.10thulsounds like my friends mum when she's drunk
15:07.25harlhe throws out an insult every few seconds like he's got to be antisocial to everyone or something
15:08.21thulsounds like a great guy
15:08.26kenlyricwell, on the british version his derision is well deserved
15:08.44kenlyricbecause those people are cooking rat shit and feeding it to people
15:10.01kenlyricand I think you miss the entire point of the show, anyway
15:10.14kenlyricthe entire theme is boot camp for chefs
15:10.23thulsounds sucky
15:10.23thul:-P
15:12.03harli don't care about his food. actually i don't think i'd like going to one of his restaurants and i personally dislike 2 hand full of chefs, which is basically all of them i know - but he's an ugly bully yelling and grunting. nobody should act like he did at some points. (dunno what he's like now.)
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15:12.23kenlyricmy favorite episodes are the ones where he ruins the dreams of the head chef and makes the busboy the head chef.
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15:13.54kenlyricyeah, hell's kitchen is the contest one, to become a chef, right? that one is silly
15:14.16WraithanGood Eats, I like that show
15:14.18kenlyricthe one where he fixes crappy restaurants is like a public service
15:14.19Lopen|Wooorkkitchen nightmares (i think) is the good one
15:14.40kenlyricso you don't eat rat shit and the small business surives.
15:15.34harlhe does stupid things when "fixing" "crappy" restaurants.
15:16.09selckini'm sure you mean "stupid"
15:16.36harlno, i really mean stupid.
15:16.51harlthe whole guy acts like being stupid.
15:17.08kenlyricTHAT'S A 50 DKP MINUS
15:17.23kenlyriche's essentially just a raid leader playing with bads
15:17.56Lopen|Wooorkdidn't two or three of his own resturants go under?
15:18.08harlwell, i sure don't wanna do any raids with him.
15:18.12kenlyricyeah
15:18.13selckinwhy would he making tv otherwise
15:18.29harldunno. make money. and advertise himself.
15:18.33kenlyricharl: are you some kind of thin-skinned precious kitty?
15:18.59kenlyriche doesn't yell at the people who aren't stupid
15:19.22harlhe does. if you've seen all there is, then you should know about it.
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15:19.58kenlyricwell, who knows what american producers put him up to
15:20.08kenlyricin the british version, he only yells at dumbells
15:20.20Lopen|Wooorkive only ever watched the british version
15:20.29ShaneSvellerAre there any wiki articles or addons I should look over to see how to write my addon in a modular fashion similar to Quartz, Cart or PitBull?
15:20.51kenlyricthat show mostly makes me appreciate how hard working in a kitchen in a busy restaurant is
15:21.07harlmaybe. i only know his appearances on american and german tv which are basically the same regarding this.
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15:23.23ShaneSvelleralso, if i wanted to validate my lua syntax under OSX without running WoW, can I just install the lua package from MacPorts and run the luac executable?
15:23.29kenlyricit also makes me appreciate that at a good restaurant, my plate won't come out scalding hot :)
15:25.09harli usually like it better to make my own food. (and no, that doesn't mean it's "good" food, but at least i know it wasn't made by sweating people while yelling at each other.)
15:25.26harlbtw does string.gsub only support like ascii-7 or something?
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15:28.48[SW]Dodgeis achievment tracking activ on live or does it only start after patch?
15:28.59durcynnot until 3.0.x drops
15:29.08[SW]Dodge:(
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15:30.05durcynyou can fudge it by getting drops from end-bosses in old instances though, for whatever that's worth
15:30.55[SW]Dodgethat should work? ;D
15:31.28ulicyea, they scan your items, or at least I think that's the plan.
15:31.58Slaymanpurl, cookie
15:32.00ulicso that might work for you, but not for a whole guild, since you'd have to kill says Ragnaros 40+ times to get everyone some loot.
15:32.11Slaymanpurl, good bot
15:32.11purlSlayman: thanks
15:32.16durcynitems, completed quests, yeah
15:32.32durcynor you could just wait until the patch drops and clear it once or twice
15:33.05[SW]Dodgewell i first do low level instances for myself :P
15:33.10ulicyep, that's what I plan on doing with my guild.  All the old world instances which most of them never did anyways.  Calling it Monday Night Mayhem.
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15:34.37ulicshouldn't be too hard to pick up 40 people, even if you pug some, if they are 70's who really cares if they suck or not, as long as they don't pull the whole instance.
15:35.55[SW]Dodgeyou wont need 40 player for mc or bwl
15:36.06thulwhat are we talking about?
15:36.09thulwhy would one do that?
15:36.10[SW]Dodgeaq should be possible with less to
15:36.27[SW]Dodgethul: raid achievments^^
15:36.29durcynyou can 10-man 90% of level 60 content without issue
15:37.01SunTsuulic: I saw 40 lv70 wipe over and over again on AQ40's first boss
15:37.19ulicof course you wouldn't NEED 40, but you could take 40 to help more people.
15:37.24thul[SW]Dodge: which is what? :-P explain it to me
15:37.44ulicand heck drag in some 60's and help them level up while you're at it :)
15:38.05[SW]Dodgethul: with 3.0 there are achievments, and one of the categorys is dungeon& radi wit subcat classic where you have to do the pre-bc raids
15:38.15[SW]Dodge+normal low lvl instances^^
15:38.47ulicw00t for getting to solo deadmines again!
15:39.03thul[SW]Dodge: ah, ok. and you get stuff? I|ll google it :-P
15:39.10[SW]Dodgeulic: yea, there is also an counter for van cleeve kills
15:39.16ulicyou just get street cred :)
15:39.34[SW]Dodgethul: you'll get titles, dunno if there are meer ^^
15:39.38ulic[SW]Dodge: that's true, they are basically logging your entire life now.
15:40.05[SW]Dodgeto bad that they didnt startetd the logging wit 1.x :(
15:40.09thul[SW]Dodge: oh, that is all?
15:40.29[SW]Dodgethul: on mmo-champ i read something about an uniqe mount
15:40.41thul[SW]Dodge: hmm, ok
15:41.20[SW]Dodgethul:  http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?tab=0&page=777 <- a lisst of all achievements
15:42.31thul[SW]Dodge: dnake
15:42.33thuldanke even
15:42.45[SW]Dodgecurrently working on world exploration :D
15:42.54[SW]Dodgeeastern kingomds 95%
15:42.58winkillerdomination > exploration
15:43.04[SW]Dodgekalimdor 59 ._.
15:43.24[SW]Dodgewinkiller: yea :P
15:43.57[SW]Dodgewinkiller: but i need to know what i'm going to dominate ^^
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15:45.04thulhttp://www.friflyt.no/getlucky/
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16:00.00[Liquidor]Does the link ".lightbox: Test Link" open up a small window to you? http://armory.artoman.com - If not, which browser are you using?
16:01.01Bibi`[17:41:33] <[SW]Dodge> thul:  http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?tab=0&page=777 <- a lisst of all achievements
16:01.08Bibi`a very outdated list of all achievements.
16:08.04AckisWorkupdate it? :D
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16:19.18Anadale_ping ckknight
16:19.40ckknightpong, Anadale_
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16:19.58Anadale_sorry, disconnected
16:20.06ckknightpong, then
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16:20.17Anadale_ckknight, I have a problem adding custom tag to LDT-3.0
16:20.23ckknightokay
16:20.30Anadale_I've copied LDT-Unit-3.0 as a blueprint
16:20.34ckknightokay
16:20.38Anadale_removed everything that I don't need
16:20.42Anadale_Added my tag
16:20.55Anadale_renamed LDT-Unit-3.0 to LDT-Items-3.0
16:21.09Anadale_And added a simple tag to return number of specified items in bags
16:21.14Anadale_easy thing
16:21.22ckknightokay
16:21.22Anadale_Now,  I can see tag in help
16:21.38Anadale_But anytime I try to use this tag I got "Unknown tag"
16:21.46Anadale_tag code is never called
16:21.47ckknightwhere are you trying to use it?
16:21.51ckknightor how?
16:21.55ckknightyou have to specify the namespace properly
16:22.04ckknightwhen making the fontstring
16:22.13Anadale_aha
16:22.18Anadale_just a sec, please
16:23.08ckknightsorry, gonna go to lunch now, will be back in 30-60 minutes
16:23.14Anadale_Okay, found a problem.
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17:10.59Dashkal(lore) Does anybody know anything about these dragons? http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/september/8926mount_1_v2.jpg
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17:12.23AeyanDon't think so
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17:17.08NeoTronalbino black dragon!
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17:21.47nevcairielDashkal: twilight dragons were never mentioned before, afaik anyway
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17:22.12Dashkalok, so I'm not just missing something.
17:22.43DashkalDragon lore got much more interesting in WotLK (Future self quest...)
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17:23.11ShaneSvellerCan someone confirm/clarify for me: if i want to hardcode my chatframe layouts, and say i want to have 3 frames docked together and tabbed, do i just assign them all the same x-y points and then use SetChatWindowDocked() on the second and third? after a ReloadUI they should be docked together, right?
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17:24.42ShaneSvelleras long as the first is ChatFrame1?
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17:39.13DashkalAnybody care to comment on a WotLK druid tanking spec? http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZxhGscrdceocxzAo0eczb
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17:44.19[SW]DodgeDashkal: i would miss improved lotp
17:45.01[SW]Dodgemove the primal precision pints to lotp
17:45.35DashkalI dunno... The thinking there is that missing that initial mangle is far more dangerous than the loss of 4% health every 6 seconds
17:46.09DashkalI guess I'll have to consider the presence of a blood DK.  With one, I'll do the precision, but I see your point with no other health aura
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17:55.18DashkalThere, same spec adapted to DPS http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZxhGsfrd0eR0xzAo0Eczb (and this time I got ilotp)
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17:56.02[SW]Dodgeno king of the jungle?
17:56.10[SW]Dodge60instant energy ftw
17:56.28CIA-5803ackis 07NewDB * r81785 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList/ARLDataminer.lua:
17:56.28CIA-58AckisRecipeList:
17:56.28CIA-58- Data miner update to work with new version, now parses the type of drops correctly
17:56.28CIA-58- Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p)
17:56.39[SW]Dodgeand oyu dont need 3/3 in thick hide
17:58.25CIA-5803oridan * r81787 10SpellReminder/ (auras.lua core.lua options.lua):
17:58.25CIA-58SpellReminder:
17:58.25CIA-58- FIX: remove bars when making them inactive.
17:58.25CIA-58- FIX: bug with rank detection on temporary weapon buffs.
17:59.08NeoTronstill can't decide if DK is the way to go or not
17:59.24NeoTronI am just very... how shall I put it - unexcited about the current state of warlocks
18:00.19Dashkalmeep, danke, [SW]Dodge, completely missed that
18:00.56AckisWorkcia is slow today
18:00.58Dashkalhrm, this will be tricky.  While I don't need the armor, that talent was getting me to the next tier
18:01.13CIA-5803ackis 07NewDB * r81788 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList/ (ARLDataminer.lua autofa.lua): (log message trimmed)
18:01.13CIA-58AckisRecipeList:
18:01.13CIA-58- Data miner will parse trainer information, add the appropiate aquire strings to it, and add more flags
18:01.13CIA-58- Added auto-generated first aid file just to keep track of progress
18:01.14CIA-58- Still need to deal with quests, mobs, vendors for aquire
18:01.18CIA-58- Need to deal with most of the flags
18:01.20CIA-58- Need to get Kagaro to add some sort of reputation stuff for me
18:02.07[SW]DodgeDashkal: you can just put 2 in it and maybe get this 2 points into  brutal impact
18:02.14KalrothSetRaidTargetIcon() only works with "target", "focus" and "raid1" to "raid40"?
18:02.36DashkalI was thinking dumping them in Feral Aggression (just 2) would be more useful for pure DPS.  For PvP it'd be impact for sure
18:03.48Dashkalhttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZghMsfrd0eo0xuAo0Eczb
18:04.31DashkalMeh, I really dislike the resto-feral talents.  They feel so clunky
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18:07.22Dashkalmeh, much as I like ilotp, I just keep having trouble finding the points.  But if there's no blood DK, I could sacrifice a little DPS from somewhere else for it.
18:07.33CheadsNeoTron you are not alone
18:07.59[SW]DodgeDashkal: yea feral is hard to find a good specc^^
18:08.14DashkalI'm gonna call that a good thing.  I have choices!
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18:09.12[SW]Dodgeyea
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18:09.34[SW]Dodgeas long as you dont have so much choices like for a warlock ^^
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18:11.49Dashkaltoo much choice is bad.  true.  I just like that I'm sitting here evaluating which spec I want based on the presence/absence of buffs.  As in they really are both good.
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18:13.15DashkalSo I'm considering being a vampire for Halloween.  Sounds mundane?  The twist is I'm thinking of being a Malkavian who's utterly terrified of spoons.
18:18.55[SW]Dodgenoooooo :( 1 exploration in eversong woods is missing but my map does not have any read areas anymore :( (fog of war = red)
18:19.32NivFreakbetter figure out a search pattern
18:19.39DashkalWhat's it called?
18:20.47Funkeh`turn the map mod off and see, sometimes these exploration things can f up
18:23.10[SW]Dodgemap mod disabled, no foggy area :(
18:23.55NivFreakI had that problem in northrend actually
18:23.58NivFreakin borean tundra
18:24.17NivFreakthere was some small camp I hadn't discovered, with no visible map fog
18:24.30NivFreakand I got the achievement when I randomly ran through it
18:26.20DashkalNivFreak: the one kind of south-east of the FP to coldarra?
18:26.39sylvanaarDotted did you need me for s/t?
18:26.56Dottednah found out myself
18:27.24NivFreakDashkal: I was thinking it was actually northeastern part of the zone, but tbh I didn't pay that much attention
18:27.58DashkalI noticed that northrend has way too many discovery points that grant xp.  I gained a good four bubbles once I got my death chicken.
18:28.26NivFreakyea, I got a lot of XP just exploring in general
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18:28.42NivFreaklike 2000 per area too
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18:37.26[SW]Dodgegna, how i could find the last area? :(
18:37.47[SW]Dodgewant to do the 110 areas in kalimdor :S
18:38.32DashkalSeriously, what's it called?  Might be able to do a little wiki searching work to find it that way
18:38.48[SW]Dodgetghe area?
18:38.50[SW]Dodgei dunno
18:39.04[SW]DodgecargExplorer just tells me there is 1 missing area
18:39.39DashkalDoing this on live?  That makes it harder.  Cause the achievement tells you what you're missing
18:40.08[SW]Dodgeyea found it!
18:40.24DashkalGrats :D
18:40.30[SW]Dodgeit was the academy on b11 starting isle
18:40.40[SW]Dodgeuh
18:40.41[SW]Dodgewait
18:40.55[SW]Dodgei discovered the academy but still 1 is missing :(
18:41.13DashkalTweak the mod code to dump the names of the missing sections?
18:41.35[SW]Dodgehow to get the names of missing sections? :P
18:42.18DashkalWell, cargExplorer is doing it somehow...
18:43.01DashkalIf it's just counting revealed areas it could just be wrong as well
18:43.06[SW]Dodgei think it just counts the map overlays
18:43.53DashkalDo you have that little island off the west coast?  Or was that in ghostlands?
18:44.30DashkalNope, I'm thinking ghostlands
18:44.31[SW]Dodgethat was ghostlands
18:45.08DashkalHere's a list of areas for the achievement: http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?achievement=859
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18:49.26[SW]Dodge1 is missing
18:49.29kenlyricif those points are ever worth anything, you'll get a lot for exploring
18:49.42[SW]Dodgebut i have the names of the zones i have discoverd
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18:49.49[SW]Dodgechecking wich is missing :D
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18:50.27[SW]DodgeAzurebreeze Coast <- seems to be the missing one :D
18:53.38[SW]Dodgein northeastern..
18:53.39[SW]Dodgehmm
18:58.41[SW]DodgeYAAAY
18:58.42[SW]Dodge!
18:58.42[SW]Dodge!
18:58.44[SW]Dodge:;
18:58.46[SW]Dodge:D
18:58.57[SW]Dodgeeastern kindoms 100% discovered =)
18:59.20kenlyricNOW DO IT AGAIN BITCH
18:59.40[SW]Dodgeno, now i do the missing 110 areas in kalimdor
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20:22.19EthanCentauraianyone here on EU PVE realms?
20:22.44EthanCentauraiI'm seriously considering moving realms
20:22.55EthanCentauraiI'm sick and tired of the kids on Azjol-Nerub
20:23.12EthanCentauraianyone recommend a more mature PVE realm to move to?
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20:24.43NivFreakEthanCentaurai: they are everywhere
20:24.48NivFreakare you alliance?
20:24.50Arrowmasterhttp://picasaweb.google.com/arrowmaster/IkeDamage
20:25.04EthanCentauraiI am Alliance
20:25.12EthanCentauraithere's my problem?
20:25.13NivFreaktry horde, on some servers it's a lot better
20:25.16NivFreaknot all
20:25.28nocts|work^
20:25.30NivFreakand since we got BEs, it seems to not be as much of a difference
20:25.34nocts|work^^
20:25.52nocts|workBoth sides have idiots, but I've noticed a trend of horde being a little more open to oddities than the alliance.
20:26.16NivFreakWe've been infested with a few problems on my server horde side
20:26.22EthanCentauraiwell 75% of Alliance these days are 10 year olds :P
20:26.23nocts|workSame here ever since BE.
20:26.25NivFreakbut really, half an ignore list and you'd never know
20:26.38EthanCentaurailoves the IgnoreMore addon
20:26.39nocts|workEthanCentaurai: ACtually, polls showed the age groups pretty similar.
20:26.54nocts|workHowever, I think it's the differences of social aspects that attract people of different mindsets instead of just age.
20:27.01nocts|workA mature 16 year old is still 16.
20:27.17EthanCentaurais/10 year olds/immature
20:27.25nocts|workI'd rather say that the horde have more mature and understanding players than the alliance.
20:28.15NivFreakI think for some people it's the hero vs underdog appeal
20:28.17nocts|workMaybe it has something to do with "OMG IM A HUMAN AND UR RUINING MY FANTASY GAME", where as in horde the game is already fantasy built by models and worlds non-realistic, making you more understanding to other people/personalities around you.
20:28.32NivFreakyea
20:28.38NivFreakbut it's all perspective
20:28.43nocts|workYup
20:28.47NivFreakthe situation is reversed on some servers as well
20:28.47EthanCentauraitbh I only play Alliance because I like draenei :P
20:28.58WraithanEh not always, could guildies and I trashed the 3 dudes who were pvp outside of kara, then we each were teabagging one of the dudes we killed...
20:29.03NivFreakEthanCentaurai: tauren > draenei
20:29.06Wraithans/could/couple/
20:29.20nocts|workWraithan: I don't think that works. Teabagging doesn't show lack of maturity.
20:29.32EthanCentauraiNivFreak: moo... are you happy now? :P
20:29.36nocts|worklol
20:29.39NivFreakhehe
20:29.44WraithanI am on horde side, as a side note
20:29.47NivFreakdraenei are just alliance space cows
20:30.05nocts|workEthanCentaurai: I'm pure horde, but I have to say something about the Draenie shaman: Being the exiled class from an outside society meant that I could interact with the Alliance community but not actually be a part of it.
20:30.26nocts|workI could feel like I was horde/tribal while still retaining the chance to enjoy some different quests and sights.
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20:31.04Wraithannocts|work: and you got the cool looking totems...
20:31.08nocts|work^
20:31.09Wraithan<PROTECTED>
20:31.43nocts|workAnd now, going back to horde, when I see a draenie shaman I give a huge smile.
20:31.49nocts|workThey always, ALWAYS put up a good fight.
20:32.01Wraithannot really
20:32.05nocts|workWell, for me.
20:32.10nocts|workAnd I'm a good PvPer.
20:32.18Wraithanyou must have good ones, or you are no good against shaman lo
20:32.24nocts|workI'm a shaman :P
20:32.37WraithanSpec?
20:32.50nocts|workEnhancement, long before they nerfed it, and kept trunking and HKing afterwards.
20:33.01WraithanHeh, same
20:33.41Wraithanmy favorite are the elemental shamans in bgs
20:33.47nocts|workLong live the horde, but damn.. the draenie are a lot of fun to play.
20:33.52sacarasci suck and i'm a draenei shaman ;p
20:33.54nocts|workMeh :/ As enhancement I'm never really concerned.
20:34.06WraithanI mean to kill
20:34.08nocts|worklol
20:34.10nocts|work<3
20:35.27WraithanI am always enhancement, when you silence them, they almost always frost shock, and I am usually in ghost wolf by then, once they can cast again I usually have a grounding and a earthbind down... and it is GG
20:35.40Wraithansince they usually try and kite me
20:35.58Wraithaninstant ghost wolf makes me happy :D
20:36.27nocts|workTotally
20:36.41nocts|workAnd : http://www.sunbelt-software.com/stu/iraq/sand016.jpg <- gg sandstorms in iraq
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20:41.39Wraithananyone notice the 'shift-o' channel roster thing?
20:42.30thulI have an unusual PC problem, my female friend calls me and says that when she presses "o" (the letter) she only gets the number 6.
20:42.33thulany ideas? :-P
20:42.52Wraithansomeone moved the key or she spilled shit in her keyboard
20:43.22thulhmm
20:43.22thulok
20:43.54Wraithanthere are other possibilities, but almsot all the reasons mean it is busted
20:44.28thulfound out
20:44.29thulnum lock
20:44.30thul:-D
20:44.36Wraithanlaptop?
20:44.41Wraithandidn't think about that
20:44.42thulmhm
20:44.52thulthanks anyway:)
20:45.41WraithanThough, this is a fun experiement, swap 3-4 keys on someone's keyboard,
20:46.00Wraithanonly really works on the hunt and peckers... but depending on the keyboard it will mess with the touch typers too
20:46.08Wraithansince it key will be raised or lowered wrong
20:46.52EthanCentauraithe guy who invented the qwerty keyboard was a romantic fellow, as he brought U and I together...
20:47.37Wraithanoh how sweeet of him
20:48.39Wraithanhmm started building a Ace3 config for auditor so it would work with fortress... going to be a major pain in the ass to do it righ
20:48.43ckknighthey all, back
20:48.54EthanCentauraiwelcome back ckknight :D
20:49.13Wraithanbut to do it 'wrong' and just use functions from AuditorFu, will be easy
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21:04.43Cheadsgawd MH trash is soo boring
21:04.53FinalXCheads: not when you're the tank :P
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21:05.08FinalXor well, becomes boring after a while as well
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21:07.32Dashkal!api GetBuildInfo
21:07.33lua_botDocumentation for 'GetBuildInfo' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetBuildInfo
21:08.13Dashkalwrong channel
21:09.33CheadsFinalX ok.. I'm SoC-man =)
21:09.52FinalXthat does get boring quickly, aye :)
21:10.24Cheadsyeah
21:10.35Cheadsespecially since our tanks DC all the time
21:10.44FinalX>.<
21:11.00FinalXi hate those abominations as tankadin though
21:11.02FinalXfucking stuns
21:11.08FinalXx4 if not controlled
21:12.57Zyndromegod, my guild got Entropius to 3% now ... wtf is people doing to suddenly just go BOOM
21:13.23Cheadsgetting too excited =)
21:13.46ZyndromeI can tell from the rattling when they talk on vent, nervous hands typing
21:18.07FtH|Daemonahmmm hmm is that a known problem in Ace2 that it will error out with a memory allocation error: block too big in line 216 of AceLibrary.lua ?
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21:18.31FtH|Daemonaseems a complete BT run in recount saved is too much upon a relog
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21:21.46FtH|Daemonastrange, its only 20.2MB
21:22.25Lukianperhaps it's corrupt?
21:23.35Cheadsprobably in combination with other memory hungry addons
21:23.48Cheadsatleast that's when it happens to me
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21:24.19Megalonnever had a problem when i did not purge recount after a raid and logged in the next day
21:24.58Zyndromefinally my guild killed Muru ... just took ... 3 months?
21:25.01Zyndromeof constant wipes
21:25.10Cheadsgz
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21:33.05JagobahI know the pain in fighting Muru
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21:40.36FtH|Daemonahmmm that could be... http://i34.tinypic.com/98tvg9.jpg
21:40.40IndustrialKemayo_: ping
21:40.49Tifiwhat happens when i use a loop variable from a for loop as an upvalue?
21:41.22nevcairielTifi: I dont really get what you mean, example?
21:41.24Tifiis it treated like a constant? or shared across all function instances?
21:41.53Industriallua> a=1 for a,b in ipairs({'foo','bar','baz'}) do end print(a)
21:41.53lua_botIndustrial: 1
21:42.16Industriallua> a=1 for a,b in ipairs({'foo','bar','baz'}) do A=a end print(a..' '..A)
21:42.17lua_botIndustrial: 1 3
21:42.18Tifilua> f={} for i=1,2 do f[i]=function() print(i) end for i=1,2 f[i]() end
21:42.19lua_botTifi: luabot:1: 'do' expected near 'f'
21:42.25Tifilua> f={} for i=1,2 do f[i]=function() print(i) end for i=1,2 do f[i]() end
21:42.25lua_botTifi: luabot:1: 'end' expected near '<eof>'
21:42.27Industrialthat helps :D?
21:42.31Tifigeez
21:42.52nevcairielas Industrial showed, the loop variable lives in its own scope
21:42.53TifiIndustrial, no ^^
21:43.02IndustrialKemayo_: wtb BetterQuest wiki page.
21:43.18Tifilua> f={} for i=1,2 do f[i]=function() print(i) end end for i=1,2 do f[i]() end
21:43.19lua_botTifi: 1, 2
21:43.51nevcairielif you create a new closure, the current value of the upvalue is used
21:44.22Tifiso it's creates a new variable initialized with the loop variables value right?
21:44.56nevcairielkinda
21:45.05nevcairielits a constant in code then
21:45.36Tifilua> f={} for i=1,2 do f[i]=function() print(i) i=i+1 end end for i=1,2 do f[i]() end  for i=1,2 do f[i]() end
21:45.36lua_botTifi: 1, 2, 2, 3
21:46.04Tifiguess not
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21:48.32Pkekyo|http://static.nettby.no/users/k/n/a/knapoli/files/n683865108_2927828_9294.jpg <--- guess her age
21:48.51Ellipsisdo not want
21:49.08nevcairielshe is either way too old, or way too young
21:49.26nevcairieli would say 14 or so =P
21:49.31Pkekyo|16
21:49.47Pkekyo|and she  looks like a 40 year old crackwhore trying to get her shit back together
21:49.56nevcairielthe hands look young
21:50.08Pkekyo|nevcairiel: well, they are :p
21:50.19nevcairielyeah but its a give-away =P
21:50.43ckknightPkekyo|: yea, crackwhore
21:50.47Ellipsisher clothes don't fit
21:51.08thulhey ho, let's go
21:51.27nevcairielI wonder if i missed thuls daily portrait or if he is slacking again
21:51.32thul16 Pkekyo| ?
21:51.41thulnevcairiel: I'm slacking, but I have taken it, so it is uploaded within 30 minutes:p
21:51.45Ellipsisthul is always slacking
21:51.46Pkekyo|thul: JA
21:51.51Pkekyo|helt forjævlig
21:51.52Ellipsisjust to different degrees ;)
21:51.54thulEllipsis: in your pants.
21:52.24Pkekyo|thul: ville ikke rørt den skapninga der med pølseklype om jeg var drita engang
21:53.11Ellipsisthat reminds me
21:53.22Ellipsiswould one of you nice norwegian boys translate the phrase "lykke til" for me?
21:53.47Pkekyo|good luck
21:53.57Ellipsisah, well that's simple enough
21:53.59Ellipsisthanks :)
21:54.09Pkekyo|why is a norwegian saying nice things to an Ellipsis? >.<
21:54.15Ellipsislol
21:54.22EllipsisI have several norwegian friends actually :P
21:54.27Ellipsisand swedish
21:54.28Pkekyo|oh lawd
21:54.33Pkekyo|WHERE WILL IT END?!
21:55.44Ellipsiswell see back when I was studying swedish I found it easiest to learn by working with native speakers...and the norwegians got all jealous and wanted attention too
21:55.51thulPkekyo|: haha, aldri
21:55.54Ellipsisso, you see, I'm well loved around there ;)
21:55.55thulPkekyo|: aaaaldri
21:56.04thulEllipsis: including me? :-P
21:56.04thulhehe
21:56.11EllipsisI hope so :D
21:56.25Pkekyo|om hu virkelig var førti...kanskje...om jeg var full nok...
21:56.25Pkekyo|men aldri i helvette om jeg hadde rørt en sekstenåring som så sånn ut
21:56.32Pkekyo|Ellipsis: why the flying fuck would you study swedish?
21:56.39Pkekyo|oh nvm, could always come in handy for porn flicks
21:57.00Ellipsislol
21:57.03Ellipsisit's a long story
21:57.24thulPkekyo|: noe sier meg at flatlusa detter ut når hu går
21:57.29Pkekyo|ahahahahah
21:57.48Pkekyo|tror den dama har størknet sminke som gjør at trynet er stuck i den grimasen for alltid :p
21:59.01Pkekyo|ærlig talt...ser ut som at Joker hjalp dama å sminke seg :P
21:59.10thulhttp://fc66.deviantart.com/fs37/i/2008/260/1/b/Praying_for_Cancer_by_cainadamsson.jpg <- portrait of the day :-D
21:59.25Pkekyo|what optics?
21:59.47NeoTronvarför pratar ni plötsligt norska?
21:59.47thul58mm f/1.2
22:00.04Ellipsisbecause they're noobs
22:00.04Pkekyo|NeoTron: dirty stuff that's not healthy for the rest of the chan to hear ;>
22:00.22Repo[wow] test-bravo: 03ckknight * v0.1-59-geb97198 TestBravo.lua: O hai guise!
22:00.24Pkekyo|I'd like to do portraits... but I think I hate people too much :p
22:00.27thulhehe
22:00.30thulis that one too dark?
22:00.31thulor is it ok?
22:00.48EllipsisPkekyo|: you can take pictars of me!
22:00.51Pkekyo|it's fine, but dislike the focal blur on top of her index finger
22:01.00NeoTronhur mycket svenska förstår du Ellipsis?  Jag pratade en gång med en person här i Seattle som hade "studerat svenska". Jag förstod inte ett ord av vad han försökte säga.
22:01.15thulNeoTron: jag tror det er et ganske vanlig problem
22:01.36Ellipsislol NeoTron, only a year of uni-level study
22:01.41Pkekyo|NeoTron: aa, presis vad thul säger
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22:02.18Ellipsisand obviously I'm better at understanding what's said than forming my own sentences (too much of the former and not enough practice with the latter)
22:02.28NeoTronEllipsis: seems sufficient to grasp what I'm saying at least, which is slightly impressive after just a year. Of course my wife studied Swedish (in Sweden, at the univ) for a year and she's pretty good still. despite it being 12 yrs ago
22:02.34Pkekyo|NeoTron: she just wanted it so her resumé would look better when she tried to get roles in porn flick :p
22:02.45EllipsisPkekyo|: my sekritz, you shares them!
22:02.49NeoTronI studied french for 5 years and I really don't remember anything at all
22:02.59Repo[wow] test-bravo: 03ckknight * v0.1-60-g53e9caf TestBravo.lua: O hai thar
22:02.59Pkekyo|Ellipsis: I even has torrents :O
22:03.06Pkekyo|NeoTron: same, but for three years :p
22:03.13Pkekyo|I got good grades though
22:03.14NeoTronin my first raiding guild we had a druid who was a male porn star
22:03.15ckknightwoo, Repo is working on #wowace properly now
22:03.18EllipsisNeoTron: well, I've had more than a year of reading it on IRC ;)
22:03.35EllipsisI lurked swedish channels for quite some time due to...interesting circumstances in my online life
22:03.44NeoTronthat probably helps
22:03.51Pkekyo|Ellipsis: cybered with some swedish broad
22:03.55EllipsisPkekyo|: totally
22:03.56Pkekyo|:p
22:04.05Pkekyo|I'm spot on the money every damn time! woop!
22:04.08NeoTronWe start English studies in 3rd grade, which is round 8-9 yrs old. So got a few more years of that
22:04.29NeoTronplus of course all media influence (movies, books - internet later on)
22:04.42NeoTronbut we were taught proper Brittish English
22:04.52Ellipsissadly it's hard to find anywhere around here to properly study swedish
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22:04.59NeoTronsomething I've gladly purged completely
22:05.02Stanzillackknight: will that [wow] tag stay? kinde useless for Wowace :O
22:05.10thulhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR5gqCfWo7M <- my greates inspiration :-D (listen guys, seriously, listen to the lyrics :-D )
22:05.40Pkekyo|Ellipsis: play on EU servers and join a guild...in ANY EU guild there's always at least two swedes that'll teach the rest of'em english
22:05.46EllipsisI could have driven up to seattle a few times a week to learn from a native speaker....or I could just sit on ventrilo all day
22:05.56Pkekyo|ie. "SLICKA MINA PUNGKULOR OCH ÅK ÅT HELVETE MED ER BÖGIGA FITTJÄVLAR"
22:06.01thulEllipsis: so, WSU? any good? :-P
22:06.25Adirelleckknight: Repo didn't announce the last [wow] updates to #curseforge, is it expected ?
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22:06.41Ellipsisthul: UW ;)
22:06.46NeoTronPkekyo|: sophisticated swedish too
22:06.55Pkekyo|NeoTron: really? :p
22:07.02Pkekyo|I never could get the spelling of 'helvete' right afaik
22:07.04EllipsisPkekyo|: what's sad is I understand that more easily than NeoTron :P
22:07.14Pkekyo|Ellipsis: that's just bloody brilliant ;)
22:07.23Pkekyo|but most likely just due to me spamming it in this channel for a year or so
22:07.26thulEllipsis: hmm, not WSU? UW got law? :-P
22:07.38Ellipsisthul: I wouldn't know, definitely not my field ;)
22:07.54Ellipsis~lart thul
22:07.54purlslams thul against a large cement Tux
22:07.57thul:/
22:07.59Ellipsisthat youtube crashed my browser
22:08.01EllipsisI hope you're happy
22:08.03thul:-(
22:08.13NeoTronPkekyo|: it's spelled helvete
22:08.36Pkekyo|yay, I finally did it right :p
22:09.21Pkekyo|"snälla spagge, äta skit och dö"
22:09.37NeoTronso warlock glyphs aer good and only reason we think otherwise is because the grass is greener on the mage side of the road
22:09.40NeoTronapparently
22:09.40Ellipsiso.O
22:09.45NivFreakNeoTron: wow
22:09.45thulhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Qugtp90NU <- gotta admit that the guy singing is sexy Ellipsis ? :-D
22:09.46EllipsisNeoTron: I rofl'd
22:09.47NivFreakthat's a lie
22:09.54NeoTronäta => ät
22:09.59NivFreakand that's coming from a non-warlock
22:10.16Pkekyo|cheers NeoTron
22:10.21thulI love christoffer schau :-D
22:10.25Ellipsisthul: not my type :P
22:10.26Pkekyo|two years since I had a swede in the guild now, I'm getting rusty
22:10.41ckknightStanzilla: true, I'll fix that
22:10.49thulEllipsis:/
22:10.51Stanzilla^_^
22:10.54ckknightAdirelle: I'm conused
22:10.56ckknightconfused*
22:10.59NeoTron<PROTECTED>
22:11.00NeoTronSome changes to the Glyphs are upcoming, but this seems like "grass is greener" to me.
22:11.18NivFreaklol
22:11.24NeoTronthere isn't even a glyph for incinerate at all
22:11.25NivFreakI'd say, look at warrior glyphs
22:11.27Ellipsisfacepalms
22:11.28NivFreakbut I don't want mine nerfed
22:11.30NeoTrononly shadow bolt (SB one is boring but good)
22:11.43Stanzillalook at shadow priest glyphs
22:11.45Stanzillathey all suck
22:11.53NivFreakfrom a prot warrior perspective, I'm very happy with what we are getting
22:12.00Stanzillareduced mana cost for a spell we use once per fight? nice...
22:12.02NeoTronhttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/9/9956359190-wotlk-8-weeks-away.html that whole post by Koraa is a slap in the face (both because he answered a month old troll post and because his answers are bording on trolling)
22:12.05NivFreakwtb new beta build with warrior glyphs
22:12.29NeoTronStanzilla: can't beat longer duration on a 30m self buff
22:12.35Stanzillaheh
22:12.37NeoTronbecause it really matters if we do it once or twice per hour
22:12.42Repotest-bravo: 03ckknight * v0.1-61-ga9fffd2 TestBravo.lua: Hello once more!
22:12.47ckknightwoo
22:12.59NeoTroninscription overall is kind of a letdown
22:13.00thulseriously, that song just rocks.
22:13.03ckknightno [wow] on the front, since wowace is game-specific
22:13.08thulYOUR PUSSY IS A GRAVEYARD AND I'M DYING TO GET IN
22:13.16NeoTronas someone said there are very fun fun/unique glyphs - one good example is the rogue sprint-on-water one
22:13.32NeoTronthat's fun, cool and unique
22:13.45Stanzillackknight: make the addon name blue like the current script does and not bold imo :P
22:14.06Pkekyo|thul: what the hell?
22:14.26ckknightk, let's see how it looks
22:14.50thulPkekyo|: what?
22:14.55thulthat is the lyrics
22:14.59Pkekyo|oh
22:15.35Repo02test-bravo: 03ckknight * v0.1-62-gef50d1a TestBravo.lua: Stanzilla is a farty-pants!
22:15.46Stanzillanice :D
22:15.52ckknightsays the farty-pants.
22:16.02Ellipsis:< that color does not work at all on a black background
22:16.15ckknightI could do light blue instead
22:16.26Stanzillacan you use teh same blue?
22:16.27NeoTronlight pink
22:16.30Stanzillalike we had in the old script
22:16.32thulhttp://www.myspace.com/cumshots <- bitter erection is cool too Pkekyo|
22:16.32Ellipsissomething that works on either color would be best
22:16.35ckknightStanzilla: ?
22:16.36thulgod I love cumshots :-D
22:16.40thul(the band, for the record)
22:16.43Stanzillackknight: the blue that CIA used
22:16.45Ellipsislike the green looks fine on white or black
22:16.54EllipsisCIA uses teal
22:16.55Pkekyo|thul: rather go for normal erections
22:17.21thulyou should be glad to even get one :-P
22:17.22thulMOHAHAHA
22:17.55Pkekyo|thul: a joke about not being able to relieve said erection would've given better results tbh
22:18.13Repo10test-bravo: 03ckknight * v0.1-63-g49d2c9a TestBravo.lua: Stanzilla is still a farty-pants.
22:18.13Ellipsisare you guys talking about porn and I missed it?
22:18.20Ellipsis\o/ ckknight
22:18.28thulEllipsis: music
22:18.35thulPkekyo|: http://www.kamerabild.se/artikel/ny_canon_eos_den_17_september_080910205533-595.html
22:18.40thul(and other scandie photogeeks :-P )
22:18.51Pkekyo|never liked the EOS cameras tbh
22:19.02Pkekyo|too big and arsehatty
22:19.05thul:-(
22:19.06thulcanon ftw.
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22:20.10Pkekyo|prefer Olympus...but it's a bitch to find optics
22:20.19thulerhm?
22:20.23thul_lots_ of alternative glas
22:20.24thuls
22:20.26thul_lots_
22:20.27ckknighthey all, beta.wowace.com is getting its projects wiped again.
22:20.36thulm42->olympus adapters + manual focus + cheap lenses AHOY
22:20.48thulbut that said, I have huge hands (among other things Ellipsis *wink*), so I need big cameras :-P
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22:20.57thulLife is a game, and I FUCKING LOST IT AND STILL YOU CRY!
22:20.58thul*sings*
22:21.05Pkekyo|Ellipsis: it's true, he's got a HUGE nose as well
22:21.24thulactually, after i operated out most of my nosebone, it is smallish
22:21.25thul:/
22:21.46Pkekyo|thul: could've told me that before.... I've spent fucking 3k on a 14-42m, 3.5-5.6f optic
22:22.01thulPkekyo|: you did not ask :-P mflenses.com
22:22.03thulforum.mflenses.com
22:22.04Pkekyo|thul: gotten bitchslapped and broken it again?
22:22.11thulPkekyo|: 8 times.
22:22.14Ellipsisthul: just how big are your hands, eh?
22:22.21Pkekyo|from here and to the moon
22:22.23Pkekyo|then back again
22:22.44thuleller hmm, my longest finger is 9-10cm long :-P
22:23.04thulfrom the butt of the hand to the tip of the longest finger... well I'd guess about 20-23cm
22:23.07thul:-D
22:23.25Pkekyo|that's not big at all
22:23.34thulwell, it is
22:23.36Pkekyo|well...if that's big, I've got big hands as well apparently >.<
22:23.44thulI have met 1 or maybe 2 people with larger hands than me
22:23.47Pkekyo|I had a tape measure handy :P
22:23.54thuland that includes quite a few powerlifters and strongmen :-P
22:23.58thulhaha, ok, I'll measure to be sure.
22:24.00Pkekyo|mine are about the same size as yours
22:24.26thulPkekyo|: http://cgi.ebay.com/M42-Adapter-for-Olympus-E-520-510-420-330-1-AF-Confirm_W0QQitemZ190251075914QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item190251075914&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 <- get that + any m42 cheapo lens you want ( i recommend the CZJ 135 3.5 )
22:24.52Pkekyo|m42? elaborate please?
22:24.57thulm42 is an old lensmount
22:25.00thulabundance of different cool lenses
22:25.00Ellipsisthul: is "eller" your new pet name for me, or does your IRC client tab-complete more than just nicks? :P
22:25.09thulEllipsis: it tabcompletes stuff :-P
22:25.21Ellipsisthat's kinda funny
22:25.27Pkekyo|wouldn't be much of an impressive pet name :p
22:25.28thulEllipsis: "el" gets to "eller" beacause when I was like 14, I used to just say "that el. that".
22:25.35Ellipsisah, hehe
22:25.36thulEllipsis: my pet name for you is *sensorship*
22:25.42Ellipsis:o
22:25.43ckknightnot censorship?
22:25.44Ellipsisdiiiiiirty
22:25.55thulimagine, same irc client AND same completions for 11 years :-P
22:25.58thulckknight: that too :-D
22:26.16thul25cm from thumb-point to middle finger point Pkekyo| :-P
22:26.38thulPkekyo|: that adapter, lets you USE all these old, manual focus/manual aperture lenses, and they come for quite cheap.
22:26.47thulyou can even get a rokkor 58 1.2 (like mine) for like 300 usd.
22:26.59thulor a super takumar 135 f/3.5 for 16 usd
22:27.09thulPkekyo|: cheap 20, 30, 50, 80, 135mm primes.
22:27.11NeoTronwhen I first spent a summer in the US when I was 16 I came home and interjected occasional English words (short ones typically - and, or etc)
22:27.35Ellipsisheh, the reverse of what most people do
22:28.00Pkekyo|meh, optics are too expensive for me :(
22:28.00Pkekyo|need a job
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22:28.18NeoTronand maybe you know but eller = or in Swedish at least
22:28.24Pkekyo|norwegian as well
22:28.30thulPkekyo|: even the 16 usd ones? :-(
22:28.41thulif you get an adapter, I'll even just ship a few up to you for free, so you can test it out :-P
22:28.53EllipsisNeoTron: indeed, otherwise I would have been quite a bit more confused by thul's frequent usage of it :P
22:29.08thulEllipsis: sooorryy... :/
22:29.08Pkekyo|thul: aye, I'm skint to the bone
22:29.22thulPkekyo|: ah, ok :/ got ya.
22:29.28Ellipsisthul: well you know how upset I get when people mangle my nick!
22:29.30thulI made crazy amounts of money this summer, so I'm good for now.
22:29.35Pkekyo|been unemployed since august...can't find anything new :(
22:29.37Ellipsisyou make angry Ellipsis aaaaaaangry
22:29.43Pkekyo|didn't make any money that I didn't spend this summer :p
22:29.50NivFreakis there an achievement for naxx classic?
22:29.56Stanzillanope
22:30.01Ellipsisthere's one for atiesh
22:30.09Pkekyo|meh, zuiko digital doesn't go lower than f2.8 on their optics
22:30.17thulEllipsis: memeeee
22:30.22Pkekyo|and it costs FUCKLOADS
22:30.44thulPkekyo|: har vel femti-seksti igjen etter sommeren, og da har jeg brukt typ tjue-tredve :-P
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22:30.50thulPkekyo|: få deg en rokkor 58 1.2
22:30.58thulPkekyo|: jeg har en ekstra, du kan få kjøpe den for 2k :-P
22:31.26Pkekyo|thul: jeg tjente vel kanskje en tidel av det du har igjen
22:31.31thulhmm, ok :-P
22:31.32Pkekyo|har ikke 2k :(
22:31.38Pkekyo|og jeg har brukt alt
22:31.41thulokda.
22:31.42Pkekyo|har tredve kroner igjen
22:31.57Pkekyo|og de ryker på iskaffe så snart butikken åpner utpå morningen :p
22:31.59thulmen spar til en 58 1.2. De rocker. Jeg bruker den kontinuerlig. Den blir kanskje litt trang på en olympus da, blir 120mm 1.2
22:32.16thuljeg har et par 20-30mm primes du kan få gratis :-P men du må jo ha adapter uansett.
22:32.20thulså da sliter du.
22:32.49Pkekyo|mhm
22:32.52Ellipsisgeez you two, get a room if you're going to talk dirty like that
22:32.54Ellipsis:P
22:33.07thulPkekyo|: si ifra om du får tak i et adapter da
22:33.09Pkekyo|Ellipsis: shush...either you join in or don't say anything at all
22:33.10thulskal jeg sende opp noe ræl:)
22:33.20EllipsisPkekyo|: I'm *always* willing to join in
22:33.23Pkekyo|thul: will do, men du blir nok nødt il å minne meg på å kjøpe det igjen i framtiden :p
22:33.25Pkekyo|Ellipsis: then do so
22:33.31thulone of the pro photoguys told me that my praying for cancer picture is powerful :-D
22:33.36thultime to masturbate to self ego.
22:33.38Pkekyo|hahahah
22:33.41Pkekyo|brilliant
22:33.48nocts|workhttp://ablk.com/pd.html holy apple laptops
22:33.58Pkekyo|wants a fisheye :(
22:34.19thulhttp://www.kenrockwell.com/zenit/zenitar-16mm.htm <- kp
22:34.21thulPkekyo| even
22:34.41Pkekyo|:p
22:35.04ckknightthul: praying for cancer?
22:35.16Pkekyo|ckknight: yes, he wants you to die painfully
22:35.17NeoTronPkekyo|: here you are: http://hawaiiangamefish.bizland.com/eye.jpg
22:35.24Pkekyo|NeoTron: diaf
22:35.44thulckknight: yeah
22:35.52ckknightno, I have some weird deal with Shiva, Pkekyo|, I don't go out that way
22:36.04ckknightthul: link?
22:36.26thulhttp://fc66.deviantart.com/fs37/i/2008/260/1/b/Praying_for_Cancer_by_cainadamsson.jpg
22:36.44thulckknight: read song of kali?
22:36.52Ellipsislol
22:37.03ckknightsorry, thul
22:37.22Pkekyo|I love how different optics produce different flares... was amazed when I went from my old ~40mm to my new one :p
22:37.34thulPkekyo|: mhm, that is part of the charm.
22:37.48thulckknight: it is not the best book of dan simmons, but worth the read
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22:39.10NivFreakyou get extra glyphs as a scribe, right?
22:39.18AdirelleI have the feeling that TG guides haven't be updated to the exp boost
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22:42.30Adirellenight
22:44.53ckknighthey all, beta.wowace.com has been wiped and repopulated with new projects.
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22:47.30Pkekyo|so...what's the new proffession in WotLK?
22:47.51NivFreakinscription
22:48.08Pkekyo|is it any good?
22:48.08Ellipsisblinks
22:48.11NivFreakI'm trying to figure out what if any benifits you get from being a scribe
22:48.16NivFreakPkekyo|: yes
22:48.22EllipsisPkekyo|: which rock exactly have you been hiding under?
22:48.25Pkekyo|anything I should farm? :p
22:48.30Pkekyo|Ellipsis: the one marked "real life"
22:48.33NivFreakglyphs are sort of a core part of wrath
22:48.43NivFreakthey modify your abilities
22:49.43NeoTronit's good if you're a warrior!
22:49.50NeoTrondoesn't matter if you're a warlock
22:49.57NeoTronbut that's because mages are green or something
22:50.19Pkekyo|green? wth
22:50.45NivFreakNeoTron: they matter, even if they aren't stellar
22:50.54Ellipsisyes, they totally matter
22:51.11EllipsisI want 60m fel armor and an improved soulstone
22:51.41FtH|Daemonathe benefit from being a scribe is
22:51.47FtH|Daemonayou get a 4th major glyph
22:51.48FtH|Daemona...
22:51.54Pkekyo|so it would be better for my warr than BS or mining?
22:52.00NeoTronPkekyo|: the only reason warlocks feel we have lacking glyphs is not because they are bad but, compared to makes, their grass is greener
22:52.03Ellipsiswhich is either awesome or crappy depending on your class glyphs
22:52.21NeoTronEllipsis: don't forget a flying eye of kilrogg
22:52.22NivFreakFtH|Daemona: Is that already in?
22:52.34NivFreakdidn't we only get 2 major glyphs at one point?
22:52.40FtH|Daemonanot sure, but you know, rumours and stuff
22:52.48Ellipsisoh yeah, him too
22:52.53FtH|DaemonaNivFreak that was before it was changed to 3 major 3 minor
22:53.04FtH|Daemonaand dumping the 2 lesser
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22:53.19NivFreakah
22:53.31Pkekyo|is there anything I could/should farm for inscription?
22:53.32NivFreakis that 4th glyph slot the only perk?
22:53.35FtH|Daemonaat least my none scribe lvl 80 glyph screen shows 3/3
22:53.36NeoTronPkekyo|: herbs
22:53.44FtH|Daemonalots of herbs
22:53.49Pkekyo|any lists of what you'll need out there yet?
22:53.58NeoTronyes
22:53.58FtH|Daemonagoogle for elprofessions or something
22:54.02NeoTronbasically all herbs work
22:54.07FtH|Daemonagot a good break down on inscription
22:54.15FtH|Daemonabeside loti and those bloodthistle stuff
22:54.19NeoTronhttp://wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Guide/Inscription not sure if it's still correct
22:54.22NivFreakPkekyo|: warrior glyphs are amazing
22:54.31NivFreakbut not in yet
22:54.33FtH|Daemonarogue glyphs rock
22:54.40Pkekyo|NivFreak: howso?
22:54.41thulrogue grypsh?
22:54.44thulglyphs?
22:54.46thulhow do they work?
22:54.47FtH|Daemonasure
22:54.48NeoTronit seems like right now all leveling uses druid glyphs
22:54.56FtH|Daemonathey take a talent
22:55.03FtH|Daemonaincrease the cooldown of an ability
22:55.08FtH|Daemonaadd a glyph for it
22:55.18FtH|Daemonaand the result is its the same as before
22:55.22FtH|Daemonabut for pve its nerfed
22:55.27FtH|Daemona\o/ glyphs
22:55.29NeoTronFtH|Daemona: ah but locks have like the only 15m cooldown talent... but we can improve it with a glyph!
22:55.41NeoTronbecause instant summon is too good to do more than every 15m...
22:55.53FtH|Daemonahey you are talking to a rogue, who took a race
22:55.59FtH|Daemonathat pays energy to use his racial
22:56.01FtH|Daemonakeke?
22:56.05NeoTronnever mind dk's 5 minute (basically non-existant for unholy) cooldown
22:56.41FtH|Daemonanot mentioning its even sucky when you dont get hit below 30% when you decide to use it
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22:57.04NeoTrontroll?
22:57.10FtH|Daemonajoining irc from class can get you into detention ArrowmasterClass
22:57.11FtH|Daemona;)
22:57.20FtH|Daemonayeah NeoTroll
22:57.23NivFreakPkekyo|: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=15026.0
22:57.32NivFreakPkekyo|: warrior glyphs are toward the bottom
22:59.12ArrowmasterFtH|Daemona: thats just my default nick on this client that im running from the usb drive i take with me to class
22:59.49FtH|Daemonaexcuses ....
23:00.32Pkekyo|looks rather good, actually
23:01.54Arrowmasterjust blew a fuse in my car and had to replace it with my only spare of that size.....
23:02.15thulis fan of knives any good?
23:02.45thuland that trick of the trade should make Blessing of Salvation useless for rogues?
23:02.48thulor what?
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23:04.17Ellipsisthere is no salv
23:04.37Arrowmastercorrection, there is no Blessing of Salvation
23:04.43WraithanAnyone use AuditorFu oh beta/ptr?
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23:05.41*** mode/#wowace [+o Funkeh`] by ChanServ
23:05.44thulah, ok
23:05.54thulbut trick of the trade and fan of knives look good, shadowdance too
23:05.57thulgief lvl 80 rogue
23:06.15thulhttp://www.last.fm/user/thul ftw
23:07.28WraithanRammstein was good until I learned german
23:07.54thulI like their lyrics :-)
23:08.15thulbut I have to go to bed guise!
23:08.16thuland guilrrs.
23:08.18thul(that is you Ellipsis)
23:08.20thulcya tomorrow morning!
23:08.22WraithanMost of them are eh, tell me how in any way Sonne makes sense
23:08.33thulhere comes the sun?
23:08.37FtH|Daemonaomg rammstein, the first german band i feel ashamed about when a non-native german says he loves their music (and doesnt understand the lyrics)
23:08.39thulDO YOU HATE BEATLES TOO?! HUH?!
23:08.51thulFtH|Daemona: I understand the lyrcs AND love them :-P
23:08.54thulseeman.. *<3*
23:08.57Wraithanit shine out of his eyes and his hands?
23:09.03Wraithanand it will burn your face
23:09.15thulhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fn0BO6o-Ps <- there you go
23:09.15FtH|Daemonaread the lyrics of "du hasst"
23:09.26thulWraithan: it is a song about warlocks and shadow priests.
23:09.29thulFtH|Daemona: been there, done that
23:09.32Wraithanhaha
23:09.45WraithanFtH|Daemona: yeah, my friends don't believe those are wedding vows
23:09.59Wraithan'that doesn't make any sense' well no shit.
23:09.59thulWraithan: they are:P
23:10.10thulwill you be faithful?
23:10.15thulWILL YOU LOVE ME?!
23:10.20Wraithannein.
23:10.31NeoTronRammstein rocks
23:10.31FtH|Daemonathe only resonable one i will acknowledge is "reise, reise"
23:10.34thulNEIN!
23:10.39thulFtH|Daemona: seeman?
23:10.42NeoTronI don't really care about the lyrics (regardless of the language)
23:10.50thulFtH|Daemona: what the hell is wrong with the lyrics in seeman? :-P
23:11.05FtH|Daemonaguess rammstein is generally not my taste
23:11.13FtH|Daemonabut the stage shows are good :X
23:11.27Ellipsislicks thul
23:11.33thulDer BESTE  Seeman  war doch ICH!
23:11.37FtH|Daemonadid you know, rammstein's success in the states came from the first xXx movie wit Vin Diesel?
23:11.45thulFtH|Daemona: you just have to invite me to a crystal in berlin the next time I'm there.
23:11.52thul(I'm norwegian btw, not american, for the record :-P )
23:11.53NeoTronGerman and Swedish industrial/trance/[etc] ftw
23:11.54thulEllipsis: MOAR!
23:12.02thulNeoTron: heard rammsund?
23:12.04FtH|Daemonano need to travel that far thul, i am from flensburg, ;)
23:12.09NeoTronthul: negative
23:12.18FtH|Daemonathats kinda 5 minutes from the border to denmark
23:12.18WraithanI really like the Feuer Frei... dispite their lyrics
23:12.21thulFtH|Daemona: hehe, ok
23:12.29thulNeoTron: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=98144756
23:12.34thulthat is rammstein in new norwegian
23:12.34thul:-D
23:12.43thulHjartet mitt brenn and Mutter
23:12.44NeoTronweird
23:12.47thul... seriously, so fun
23:13.07WraithanFtH|Daemona: maybe they getting bigger, but that band was among the reasons I took german, friend of mine and I all listened to the
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23:13.28WraithanFtH|Daemona: before xXx every came out
23:13.29thulhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOtwAnKYPzw :-D <- NeoTron
23:13.35FtH|Daemonaanyone learning german for non-profit reasons need to be shot...
23:13.38FtH|Daemonathe grammar is just horribale
23:13.44FtH|Daemonaand i am saying that as a native speaker
23:13.55thulFtH|Daemona: the law firm I work at has lots of german clients
23:13.58thulgood enough? :-P
23:14.05FtH|Daemonaacceptable
23:14.12Wraithanbah, it was better than taking spanish or french
23:14.19thulspanish and french are both for girls
23:14.21FtH|Daemonaagreed Wraithan
23:14.23thulgerman is a beautiful language :-)
23:14.27Wraithanthough spanish would have been more useful
23:14.29thulit fits my looks :-D
23:14.32Pkekyo|christ...THEY FUCKING MADE A GLYPH FOR REND!
23:14.37Pkekyo|AND IT'S STILL USELESS!
23:14.43FtH|Daemonathough i took a volunteered year of french and russion back in school
23:14.49FtH|Daemonadamn i sucked :X
23:14.53WraithanPkekyo|: QQ moar pl0x
23:15.09FtH|Daemonabeta patching? or did i miss warrior glyphs in the last push?
23:15.10thulhttp://photos-e.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v241/176/110/742385027/n742385027_523324_4568.jpg <- (not safe for work for germans :-P )
23:15.27EllipsisI'd hit it
23:15.32FtH|Daemonaits 1.15 ... which german is supposed to be at work??
23:15.41thulEllipsis: of course you would, it's me :-P
23:15.45Fisker-w/me hits Ellipsis
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23:15.48Fisker-crap
23:15.49Ellipsisthat was my point
23:15.49Fisker-hits Ellipsis
23:15.57Ellipsis~epic fail Fisker-
23:15.58purlFisker-, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Fisker-, you are that epic failure.
23:16.09FtH|Daemonaits so out of context, it could be anything
23:16.12FtH|Daemona@ thul
23:16.14Fisker-GENTLEMEN
23:16.20thulFtH|Daemona: the thing, I'm jewish, and we were at the jewish museum in berlin, and my friend wanted to take a few pictures of me in front of the jew-signs.
23:16.25thuland with my looks...
23:16.27thulwell, we got looks
23:16.28thul:-P
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23:16.32FtH|Daemona....
23:16.53FtH|Daemonalet me dig up the picture i got strange looks for the last time ...
23:17.06Fisker-Ellipsis
23:17.11Fisker-make gentlemen less offensive to women
23:17.12Fisker-gogo
23:17.28Ellipsiser...what?
23:17.37thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/280570357_cqoZ9-XL.jpg <- I found derrick's lost brother too
23:17.48Ellipsisgentlemen aren't offensive to women, it's the ones who AREN'T gentle that bother us
23:17.52Fisker-Like how men's room is offensive to women etc.
23:17.54thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/280570451_tconZ-XL.jpg <- I look too gentle to be a german soldier though :-(
23:18.04Ellipsismen's room isn't offensive to women...we don't use it
23:18.10Fisker-i hate you
23:18.14EllipsisI love you too
23:18.15thulI think http://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/280757830_Ns43x-XL.jpg is the best image from the entire tirp
23:18.26Fisker-UNGENTLEMEN
23:18.27thulhttp://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/280568783_S627h-XL.jpg <- or that.. but that is beacuse she is so stunningly beautiful.
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23:18.33Fisker-am ungentleman
23:18.36FtH|Daemonathere you go thul ... 2004 ... me at a strange time on a webcam ... http://www.koaschten.de/web_backup/shellplanet/webcam-boeser-assi.jpg
23:18.38Fisker-ungentles Ellipsis
23:18.50thulhahaha
23:18.53Stanzillalol
23:18.55thulFtH|Daemona: are you a crazy scientists? :-P
23:19.08thulhttp://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v113/175/79/830405726/n830405726_1081593_5238.jpg <- (the spelling is wrong, I know) that is for you Ellipsis :-P
23:19.10elite3vil19:18:51 [W From] <70:Menyu:2>: << How do you turn off the ZOMGBLESSINGS : Greater Blessing of Kings on Hunter [384] messages? >>
23:19.12elite3vil^ Anyone know?
23:19.21Ellipsisthul: thanks, afk now ;D
23:19.27FtH|Daemonano, i came back from a party, where i was hired as a driver and somehow found that stupid sunglasses in my rented suit
23:19.30Stanzillathul: spelling mistakes! you fail!
23:19.37thulStanzilla: I know :-(
23:19.50thul(i did not make the poster, it was for the group "cd covers we would like to see" :-P
23:19.58FtH|Daemonaelite3vil -> bother Zeksie
23:21.03FtH|Daemonahaha epic
23:21.12FtH|Daemonabrowsing your really old webspace for pics ...
23:21.32FtH|Daemonacaption: "You wont do that" http://www.koaschten.de/web_backup/t-online/fun/tobi_fragezeichen.jpg
23:21.37Stanzillanice Diablo2 items you have there :P
23:21.50FtH|Daemonacaption: "OMG ... you really did it..." http://www.koaschten.de/web_backup/t-online/fun/tobi_fragezeichen_2.jpg
23:21.57FtH|Daemona~lart Stanzilla
23:21.57purlfarts in Stanzilla's general direction
23:22.13FtH|Daemonaif you find something evil, let me know, i delete it then ;)
23:22.39Wraithanhttp://img140.imageshack.us/img140/488/chrisandkoibo3.jpg
23:22.44Stanzillaa list of windows xp serials is evil?  
23:22.46Stanzilla:P
23:22.50FtH|Daemonauuuh who was that with that pic of that girl that looked like a 30y old crack whore?
23:22.54WraithanMe and my girlfriend's daughter
23:23.05FtH|Daemona... you cant beat this -> http://www.koaschten.de/web_backup/t-online/fun/hmm.jpg
23:23.20Ellipsisomg I want that hat
23:23.29Arrowmastertranslation?
23:23.30FtH|Daemonatranslated Jessica (11): I am old enough for sex.
23:23.43FtH|Daemonasome talkshow
23:23.47FtH|Daemonarunning at 2pm
23:23.47StanzillaFtH|Daemona: http://www.koaschten.de/web_backup/goettertempel/stuff/XP-KeYS%20(07-06-2003,%2000.37).txt
23:23.53FtH|Daemonahaha
23:23.59FtH|Daemonanice find Stanzilla
23:24.00Stanzillathe keygen is there, too^^
23:24.08FtH|Daemonasince its from 2003
23:24.13*** join/#wowace kagaro (n=kagaro@cpe-065-190-128-061.nc.res.rr.com)
23:24.14FtH|Daemonai dont think i will get in trouble
23:24.20FtH|Daemonai guess google indexed it by now
23:24.24Arrowmasterthose keys wont even work
23:24.26FtH|Daemonacoughs.
23:25.18FtH|Daemonaunless they changed the check algorithm they should
23:25.18Arrowmasterwell they will but you wont be able to run windows update except automaticly
23:25.18FtH|Daemonathey where checked against the windows xp dll doing the verification
23:25.18FtH|Daemonaexactly
23:25.25Arrowmasterare those pro or corp?
23:25.41FtH|Daemonashould be pro
23:25.52Fisker-i just can't sleep Ellipsis :(
23:25.59Arrowmasteri had a list of over 1000 corp keys at one time
23:26.27FtH|Daemonabut you know ... better safe then sorry <del>
23:26.29StanzillaFtH|Daemona has blood in bottles
23:26.31Stanzillahttp://www.koaschten.de/web_backup/t-online/server/SIMG0005.JPG
23:27.02FtH|Daemonano its selfmade strawberry juice ...
23:27.07EllipsisFisker-: come sleep with me and I'll make it all better
23:27.17FtH|Daemonaon the other side ... how do you like my 30 bucks 1he server?
23:27.24Fisker-no you are evil :(
23:27.36Stanzillaits awesome
23:28.27Stanzillahttp://www.koaschten.de/web_backup/t-online/fun/9L2M-062.jpg
23:28.28StanzillaLOL
23:29.18Ellipsiswhy so beige?
23:29.50FtH|DaemonaStanzilla you cant beat this -> http://www.koaschten.de/pics/screenshot_101.bmp
23:30.01Stanzillaomg bmp
23:30.20WraithanFtH|Daemona: bmp = fail.
23:30.23Arrowmasterconvert to png!
23:30.27Wraithan~lart FtH|Daemona
23:30.27purlsteals FtH|Daemona's mojo
23:30.29FtH|Daemona:D
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23:30.36FtH|Daemonahey hands of my troll mojo purl
23:30.40FtH|Daemona~lart purl
23:30.40purldumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on fth|daemona
23:30.46FtH|Daemonaouch
23:31.00Wraithanowned.
23:31.11StanzillaI don't like trolls :(
23:31.33Megalontrolls are like frenchs, noone likes em
23:31.49Wraithanbut they think awfully high of themselves.
23:31.57Ellipsiseats Fisker-
23:32.33FtH|Daemonahmmm ever considered you pushed an overclock too far? -> http://www.koaschten.de/pics/coolerchange/PICT0006.JPG
23:32.37Fisker-dies
23:32.53FtH|Daemonahttp://www.koaschten.de/pics/coolerchange/PICT0005.JPG
23:33.04Fisker-that's nothing
23:33.13EllipsisI've done far worse than that x.x
23:33.31WraithanFtH|Daemona: i've cracked chips... that is just a bit of charing
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23:33.38Wraithanand burst a cap
23:33.39FtH|Daemonathe sad thing is, i bought it that way 2nd hand ..
23:33.41Fisker-One of my friends overclocked it so much so one of the regulation transistors burned out in a righteous flame
23:33.56FtH|Daemonaand didnt find out till a year later when i exchanged the heatsink cause i wanted to overclock it
23:34.22Fisker-i had the funniest problem on my computer btw
23:34.27Fisker-Suddenly WoW started running like shit
23:34.37Fisker-turns out my CPU was running ~85-90c
23:34.40FtH|Daemonahmmm hmm .... funny coincidence
23:34.46FtH|Daemonaisnt it election time in the state?
23:34.48FtH|Daemonahttp://www.koaschten.de/pics/us_election_04.png
23:35.03Fisker-teehee
23:35.06Fisker-Anyways
23:35.07ckknightwoo, America!
23:35.12Fisker-My heatsink had burnmarks
23:35.14Fisker->:3
23:35.31Stanzillayour head has burnmarks, too
23:35.35Fisker-also my fingers had burnmarks when i verified that temperature on the heatsink
23:35.43ckknightFtH|Daemona: that doesn't mean that all smart people vote Republican or that all dumb people vote Democrat :-P
23:35.45Fisker-your mother has burnmarks
23:36.18ckknightFtH|Daemona: still funny, though
23:36.18Fisker-yes it does
23:36.18Fisker-statistics = right
23:36.18Fisker-always
23:36.18FtH|Daemonayeah and you know what, its 4 years old :X
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23:37.25Megalonthere is nothing that cannot be proven by a kolmogorov-smirnov test!
23:37.48Fisker-Ellipsis i have cold feet
23:38.00Arrowmasteractually if you look at the bottem, the data is older than 4 years old
23:38.11FtH|Daemonaoh man ... now this is embarassing now ... http://www.koaschten.de/wardrive/wireless-dithmarschen.gif
23:39.11Arrowmasterwhat is it?
23:39.18FtH|Daemonaguess
23:39.29Ellipsislooks like a wardriving map to me, from the url and the image :P
23:39.34Fisker-why so wireless
23:40.14ArrowmasterShirik: can we have Shiibot kick Fisker- every time he says "why so *"
23:40.23Shiriklol
23:40.29dodgay so srs :P
23:40.30Fisker-don't worry Arrowmaster
23:40.32EllipsisI approve of that suggestion
23:40.33Fisker-i have a backup plan
23:40.35Fisker-y so srs?
23:41.43FtH|Daemonawas a fun time back then... working for some computer support firm ... own car, laptop and gps ...
23:41.57FtH|Daemonanetstumbler was the hype for the nerds back then
23:42.05FtH|Daemona80% unsecured wlan
23:42.25FtH|Daemonaglad i didnt upload some of the stuff i discovered on some wlans :X
23:42.38Fisker-any CP?
23:42.58Arrowmasteryou mean you didnt go driving around printing horse porn out on any printers you found?
23:43.19Fisker-horse porn is pretty awesome
23:43.27Wraithan~lart Fisker-
23:43.27purlhooks into a hydrant and hoses Fisker- down
23:43.29FtH|Daemonano i gathered jpgs with a script from open wlans :X
23:43.48Arrowmasteronly jpgs?
23:44.08FtH|Daemonayou gonna laugh how many holiday and girlfriend pics you can find that way...
23:44.20Fisker-horsepenises Wraithan
23:44.21FtH|Daemonaand how many xp machines had no admin password so you could acces c$
23:44.40WraithanOH SHI-
23:45.00FtH|Daemonacan see Wraithan logout his current xp user and set an admin pw
23:45.12Wraithanum
23:45.18WraithanI don't have XP installed.
23:45.34Arrowmastermy desktop doesnt have a password on the "Administrator" account
23:45.36FtH|Daemonayeye... i can see you panic right accross the street ;)
23:45.37Wraithanthe OH SHI- was for the horsie penis.
23:45.51FtH|Daemonahmm k :(
23:46.07FtH|Daemonaseems you consider horse genitals more funny than nerd jokes
23:46.14Arrowmasteralthough the "Administrator" account only has guest privileges
23:46.17WraithanI don't have windows installed on any computers in my house
23:46.37FtH|Daemonaconclusion: you run wow on a mac, or not at all
23:46.39FtH|Daemonainteresting
23:46.40Fisker-It's no longer possible to just check drives if the administrator account has no password
23:46.45WraithanFtH|Daemona: arch linux.
23:47.00FtH|DaemonaFisker- didnt try that in ... years? ;)
23:47.08Fisker-was for Arrowmaster
23:47.08FtH|Daemonanot so much into wardriving anymore
23:47.17Pkekyo|eh...I'm lvl 16 and I've run out of quests in crossroads...now what?
23:47.26FtH|Daemonacamp taurajo?
23:47.26Fisker-kill yourself
23:47.41Fisker-have you done the quests west of crossroads?
23:47.43Fisker-or in ratchet?
23:47.51FtH|Daemonayou sound like you never played horde before
23:47.58Pkekyo|ooh, ratchet...cheers
23:47.58FtH|Daemonawhat Fisker- said
23:48.09Pkekyo|FtH|Daemona: I have...but I level sloooooooooooooooooowly...and I don't pay any attention
23:48.11FtH|Daemonayou definitly need a TourGuide.
23:48.22WraithanPkekyo|: get tomtom lightheaded and tourguide
23:48.37Pkekyo|why?
23:48.54FtH|Daemonabecause
23:49.06FtH|Daemonathen you can not pay any attention and level FAST
23:49.27Pkekyo|I level fast allready, boosting with a lvl 68
23:49.47FtH|Daemonayou fail
23:49.56FtH|Daemonayou would let a friend level a new char
23:50.01FtH|Daemonaand then award bonus levels to you
23:50.03FtH|Daemona!
23:50.07Pkekyo|eh?
23:50.19FtH|Daemona~fail Pkekyo|
23:50.20purlPkekyo|, you Fail!
23:50.59FtH|Daemonahttp://elitistjerks.com/f15/t29868-blizzard_s_new_recruit_friend_initiative_triple_experience_free_levels/
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23:51.46Fisker-i don't think Pkekyo| can access it
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23:52.18FtH|DaemonaFisker- the question that remains is ... not enough elitist or not enough jerk?
23:52.20fewynHOUSE IN EIGHT MINUTES
23:52.38FtH|Daemonathe question is
23:52.45FtH|Daemonawhich season and which country fewyn
23:52.48Fisker-i'm not enough elitist
23:52.56Fisker-lots of jerk though
23:53.02Fisker->:3
23:53.03fewyn5
23:53.12fewynand US FtH|Daemona
23:53.13Cryectjerk fisker
23:53.29EllipsisI did that once
23:53.32Ellipsisit was messy :<
23:53.33FtH|Daemonathat looked stupid Cryect ;)
23:54.44Fisker-i'm gonna end you Ellipsis
23:54.58Ellipsisagain?
23:55.08Fisker-damn
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23:57.47Wraithanhttp://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=15285936
23:57.55WraithanI am so getting those for my girlfriend's daughter
23:58.14Wraithanshe is only 1.5 years old, but it will be valuable lessons

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