IRC log for #wowace on 20080915

00:10.00WraithanAnyone use a GeForce 8400 GS?
00:10.42Wraithanor the 9400 GT?
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00:29.05Ellipsisshiny new case is shiiiiiiny
00:32.21Fisker-slaps Ellipsis around a bit with a large trout
00:32.27Fisker-i'm the scatman
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00:38.27fewynx^2*2x^2=2x^4?
00:39.36Shirikyou can do it the hard way or the easy way
00:40.05ShirikI would do it with logs, but only because I'm too lazy to find the real solution
00:41.02fewynthis has to be the hugest equation i have ever seen
00:41.39fewynit's going to take up at least this full sheet of paper
00:41.56fewynif i'm doing it right that is
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00:43.21ckknightfewyn: how is that equation huge?
00:43.37fewynnot that one
00:43.40fewynthe one i'm working on
00:43.52ckknightoh
00:43.59fewynwhy the hell do i have to do homework in college >_> at least out of the book ones
00:45.22fewyn((2x+3)/(x^2+5x-6))+((3x-2)/(x^2+x-6))=((5x-2)/(x^2-4))
00:46.12ckknightooh, dang
00:46.20ckknightthat'll be fun
00:46.26ckknightat least it's only algebra
00:46.32fewynfactoring all this shit out takes time
00:46.57Diaoo_O
00:47.03ckknightit's all about multiplying correctly and finding roots
00:47.05Diaoshouldn't take that long :p
00:47.14ckknightx^2 - 4 => (x - 2)*(x + 2)
00:47.16ckknightetc.
00:47.23fewyni knew that one off the bat
00:47.38ckknight...says you
00:47.41fewynbut once i have them factored out i have to get rid of the fractions
00:47.45ckknightin any event, math should be fun.
00:47.58fewynso it becomes
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00:48.59fewyn(x+3)(x+2)(x-2)(2x+3)+(x+6)(x+2)(x-1)(3x-2)=(x+6)(x-1)(x+3)(5x-2)
00:49.12fewyn^- that is not fun
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00:50.45fewynthat's if i did it right
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00:52.02Diaothere's a few shortcuts you can take to simplify the expansion
00:52.03Diaolol
00:55.07fewynthere is?
00:56.03Diaowell
00:56.06Diaothere's one at least
00:56.13Diaothat i can see just from looking at the equation
00:56.15Diaothat you typed
01:04.13fewyni can't believe she assigned this problem
01:08.02ckknightfewyn: put all the parts with x on the right
01:08.06ckknightmake em equal to 0
01:08.14ckknightso you have 0 = blah
01:08.57fewynyea
01:09.00fewynxD
01:09.17fewynstill would have to factor it all out
01:09.21fewynand it's bullshit
01:09.25fewyni'm skipping this
01:09.29fewynwasted too much time on it
01:10.01fewynscrew it
01:10.04fewyni'll turn it in late
01:10.06fewynmy head hurts
01:10.08ckknightlol
01:10.16ckknightI'd just solve it with my calculator
01:10.21ckknightthen work backwards and show work
01:10.22ckknight:-P
01:10.25fewynyea
01:10.48Diaolol
01:10.54Diaosimplify the expansion by uh
01:11.42Diaofirst part + (x+6)(x-1) [(x+2)(3x-2) - (5x-2)(x+3)] = 0
01:12.02Diaothen you'll notice stuff cancels as you're multiplying it out
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01:12.08fewyni'd solve it with my calculator too ckknight but i don't know how exactly to do that =p
01:12.16ckknightTI-89 FTW
01:12.19ckknightor above
01:12.26fewyni has an 83
01:12.32ckknighthaha
01:12.35ckknightI feel sorry for you
01:12.39ckknightit's serious crap in comparison
01:12.39fewynold as shit
01:12.42ckknightand I know my calculators.
01:12.42fewyni know
01:12.52ckknightI've dealt with both
01:12.54fewynwe're not allowed to use them on tests either
01:13.00fewynbecause you can solve with them
01:13.10ckknightwe could at my school
01:13.20fewynnot at BCC >_>
01:15.16ckknightoh well
01:15.21ckknightmy school is clearly cooler
01:15.44Diaolol
01:17.20Pkekyo|has superglued an EOTech to his 12ga :D
01:22.56Pkekyo|http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/funny-pictures-tiger-fetches-a-large-trunk.jpg
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01:33.55Pkekyo|http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=96359767&sid=1&pageNo=4#70
01:33.58Pkekyo|chuckles
01:35.06CIA-58spew: 03Tekkub 07master * r1a7a6ff 10/ tekPanelAuction.lua : Embed update - http://is.gd/2CT0
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01:44.28CIA-5803lifetapt * r81736 10Paranoia_EPA/ (4 files):
01:44.28CIA-58Paranoia_EPA:
01:44.28CIA-58-Added PARANOIA_DEATHKNIGHT simplified chinese translation to localization_zhCN.lua.
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01:47.14CIA-5803lifetapt * r81737 10Paranoia_EPA/ (Paranoia.lua Paranoia_EPA.toc):
01:47.14CIA-58Paranoia_EPA:
01:47.14CIA-58-svn keyword changes.
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01:51.18Pkekyo|at what level should I reroll barrens?
01:54.08CIA-5803lifetapt 07WotLK * r81738 10Paranoia_EPA/ (Paranoia.lua Paranoia_EPA.toc localization_zhCN.lua):
01:54.08CIA-58Paranoia_EPA (WotLK):
01:54.08CIA-58-Added PARANOIA_DEATHKNIGHT simplified chinese translation to localization_zhCN.lua.
02:04.02Gngsk[Ammo], ping
02:04.27Pkekyo|pong
02:04.36Gngsko_O
02:04.42Pkekyo|I'm over at Pkekyo|'s
02:04.49Gngskahh, nice
02:04.52Ellipsislol
02:05.04AeyanIt's a trap
02:05.06Pkekyo|Ellipsis: shush, he's going for it :p
02:05.21GngskI totally bought it
02:05.22Pkekyo|what'd you need Gngsk?
02:05.29GngskI don't believe you now!
02:05.31Ellipsisrofl
02:05.32Pkekyo|:(
02:05.40Pkekyo|DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL
02:05.48Aiianepatpats Pkekyo|
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02:05.54Ellipsisit's not our fault you're bad at fooling people
02:06.16Pkekyo|oi, you spilled the beans :(
02:06.27Pkekyo|what kind of rifuckingdiculous expression is that anyways?
02:07.02Pkekyo|but myeh...barrens at what level
02:07.03Pkekyo|?
02:07.28Ellipsisyou are not prepared....for barrens chat
02:07.31Pkekyo|leveled 5 chars, still can't remember shit like this
02:07.43Zyndrome·.\
02:07.46Aiianehttp://www.ispilledthebeans.com/havefun/theoriginofispilledthebeans.html
02:07.48Pkekyo|Ellipsis: where the hell are you going to find a better source for random bollocks than me?
02:07.58Pkekyo|Aiiane: what's wrong with you, seriously?
02:08.08Aiianeo_O
02:08.35EllipsisAiiane knows everything
02:08.42Ellipsiskinda like me only not quite as cool
02:08.43Ellipsis;)
02:09.07Pkekyo|shrugs
02:09.23Pkekyo|so what level for barrens olololol?
02:09.37Aiiane10, ish?
02:10.38kenlyric20
02:10.44kenlyricyou should be in ghostlands at 10
02:11.22Pkekyo|fuck ghostlands up it's stupid fucking arse
02:11.25Pkekyo|not gonna happen
02:11.27Pkekyo|I hate that place
02:12.04Ellipsishow can you hate ghostlands?
02:12.21Ellipsiswow, I totally tried to tab-complete "ghostlands" like 3 times before I realized why it wasn't working
02:12.24Ellipsisneeds caffeine
02:12.38Pkekyo|has lotses
02:12.43EllipsisGIEV
02:12.52Pkekyo|it's flowing through my veins - go for it
02:13.02Ellipsisom nom nom Pkekyo|'s blood
02:13.03Pkekyo|I hate it because I've leveled 4/5 chars there...
02:14.54elite3villol.. tab complete ftw
02:14.57Pkekyo|made my first belf char, and I've gotta get the fuck outta here
02:15.02Pkekyo|elite3vil: eh?
02:15.17Pkekyo|even with tab-completion, you'd make fuck-all sense
02:15.58elite3vilIf you're not doing ghostlands, Barrens is 10-11
02:20.55Gnarfozso, apparently, having a config.wtf in \wow\ makes it write to the real one (\wow\wtf\) but read the other one. fun tiems. :X
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04:53.44steev<PROTECTED>
04:54.28smcnwhere there's a will, there's a way
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05:08.22WraithanPkekyo|: why don't you want to do ghostlands, it is the best leveling place for the horde at that level
05:08.32JerleMinaraso.. noveember 13th release for wotlk
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05:10.16WraithanJerleMinara: link?
05:10.45JerleMinaraofficial blizzard advertisement on wowhead
05:10.45WraithanJerleMinara: no offence but if you are going by the game stores, you are an idiot
05:11.00JerleMinarano offense but blow me, because: A) saying no offense doesn't prevent offense, and B) i wasn't.
05:11.19WraithanI meant an actual source that isnt
05:11.37JerleMinarawowhead put it up, they claim it's legit, it matches the appropriate timeline, it's legit.
05:12.07WraithanWhy wouldn't it be on their worldofwarcraft page
05:12.15JerleMinarabecause it's only 10:11pm here
05:12.35fewyn[sleeping]^
05:12.42WraithanI am sorry, what?
05:12.43fewyn[sleeping]i expect a pr to auto post in 2 hours
05:12.45JerleMinarawowhead jumped the gun
05:12.50fewyn[sleeping]blizzard hq is pst
05:12.54fewyn[sleeping]wowhead is est
05:12.55JerleMinarait's only 10:11pm here in irvine
05:13.06fewyn[sleeping]3 hour difference
05:13.12WraithanJerleMinara: my friend in tech support at Blizz (wow tech support) says no official date yet
05:13.13fewyn[sleeping]i think wowhead's went live at midnight
05:13.15fewyn[sleeping]or about there
05:13.23WraithanJust target of Nov
05:13.26kenlyricactually no
05:13.27JerleMinarai trust wowhead over your friend in tech support, tbh
05:13.36kenlyricthe post on their forums went up at 10 pm
05:13.43kenlyrichttp://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=41021
05:14.39genetik-what confuses me is that November 13 is a Thursday
05:14.49fewyn[sleeping]so?
05:15.08fewyn[sleeping]this is blizzard we're talking about
05:15.19genetik-just doesn't follow historical data
05:15.21fewyn[sleeping]when do they ever do anything proper
05:15.23WobWorkomg you live in the future!
05:15.27WobWorkactually screw that
05:15.29WobWorkyou all live in the past
05:15.40JerleMinaraactually, technically, everyone lives in the past
05:15.47JerleMinaradue to the timelapse between sensory input and neural processing
05:15.57fewyn[sleeping]technicalities!
05:16.17kenlyricthe tuesday monolithic release date is a thing of the pas
05:16.18kenlyrict
05:16.22kenlyricthough it is most common
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05:24.24steevman... ret is FUN on ptr
05:26.01Diaowhat i found interesting is that kalgan said in an interview that it would be released on the "fifth of when it's ready"
05:26.03Diaolol
05:26.16JerleMinara...
05:26.21JerleMinarawhat's interesting about that?
05:26.40Diaothe fact that it's not being released on the 5th of anything?
05:26.51JerleMinara... it was a joke bud
05:27.32WobinSerious Jerle is serious.
05:30.52Ellipsisy so srs?
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05:42.14Industrialmorning!
05:42.42Ellipsislicks Industrial good morning
05:42.52Industrial=)
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05:50.59CIA-5803nikkodemus * r81739 10Acheron/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
05:50.59CIA-58Acheron:
05:51.00CIA-58- reorganized filter and report options in main UI, and separated 'Clear All' from everything else to avoid accidental clears
05:51.00CIA-58- added option to report absolute health instead of percentage in report entries
05:51.01CIA-58- added option to filter only healing or only damage
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06:42.38Industrial;o
06:44.49Ellipsislicks Zhinjio
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07:07.22ramozwoo
07:07.29ramozreleasedate for wotlk
07:10.45theoddone33wow
07:11.01theoddone33every time I think I'm going to get to play wotlk beta there's another update
07:11.04theoddone33I'm up to 5 downloads now
07:16.02nevcairiel8926 is the current version =P
07:17.06theoddone33ah, good
07:24.28Wraithanhttp://cad-comic.com/sillies.php
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07:36.00theoddone33hah
07:36.21theoddone33they fixed the unkillable guys in blasted lands
07:36.26theoddone33hilarious
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07:37.45Industrialtheoddone33: booo
07:38.19thulhttp://lucid-tv.com/103.html
07:38.24theoddone33I heard some rumor about 3.0 going live on tuesday
07:41.23CIA-58cork: 03Tekkub 07master * r7cecf3e 10/ (Config.lua Cork.lua Mousewheel.lua): Simplify mousewheel binding - http://is.gd/2DVz
07:41.37CIA-58cork: 03Tekkub 07master * r65db902 10/ Cork.lua : Prevent corking when stealthed - http://is.gd/2DVC
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07:47.34theoddone33what's murmur realm?
07:47.42theoddone33says character creation is disabled on it, heh
07:47.55Maldiviait's premade only
07:48.05theoddone33don't recall seeing it on the character copy list
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07:48.34theoddone33ah well
07:48.37theoddone33yay death knight
07:49.10Maldiviatheoddone33: you can't copy to it from normal realms, only from the template copy page
07:49.24theoddone33ah
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07:56.01Adirelle|workTekkub: ping ?
07:56.34Tekkubow
07:57.40CIA-58cork: 03Tekkub 07master * r9aa12cf 10/ modules/HunterPetHappy.lua : Fix hunter pet feeder nil error on first use - http://is.gd/2DZS
07:57.53Adirelle|worker... sorry, just understand what you did here : http://github.com/tekkub/cork/commit/7cecf3e3753e6515086c201af9034d957e244269#diff-0
07:58.11Adirelle|workat first glance, this looked weird : http://github.com/tekkub/cork/commit/7cecf3e3753e6515086c201af9034d957e244269#L0R70
07:59.18Tekkubeh?
08:00.40Adirelle|workcastonpets = something(someargs, bindwheel, someotherargs) <= this may look weird before you understand than "bindwheel" is the previous widget
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08:05.10theoddone33zomg this is annoying
08:05.15theoddone33can't figure out this eye quest
08:05.21theoddone33like the 3rd death knight quest ever
08:05.35Ellipsis...fly around, see hunters mark, use ability
08:05.45theoddone33there's no ability on my pet bar
08:06.00Ellipsisare you using an action bar addon?
08:06.04theoddone33unless I just can't find the pet bar because I never use the default ui
08:06.09theoddone33no addons
08:06.18Ellipsisthen it should be on your main action bar
08:06.25theoddone33aha
08:06.29theoddone33default ui sucks so hard
08:06.39Adirelle|workTekkub: and for the sack of being exact, UnitAura compat layer should be http://ace.pastey.net/96095 in LiveCompatLayer.lua
08:06.51noctsWait, huh?
08:07.49noctsNo, I won't argue on this one.
08:08.23clad|sleepAdirelle|work: that code doesn't compile, so I happen to disagree with you
08:08.35clad|sleep"if not name return end" isn't valid
08:08.44Adirelle|workclad|sleep: I concede it, that's drycode ^^
08:09.15Adirelle|workfixed
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08:14.47theoddone33mmm I want to move at 75% speed all of the time
08:28.47Dottedpersuades Ackis to eat the cyanide sandwich
08:30.07theoddone33guess I suck
08:30.12theoddone33couldn't kill 4 humans at once
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08:39.30[SW]DodgeAdirelle|work: geif not while fishing option for ssr xD
08:39.45[SW]Dodgeg'morning btw :)
08:40.27Adirelle|work[SW]Dodge: don't play with your mousewheel while fishing
08:40.38[SW]Dodgei mean the warings ;)
08:40.54[SW]Dodge"Thorns are missing" etc :D
08:41.16Adirelle|workit's kinda overkill, fishing ain't easy to detect
08:42.02[SW]DodgeAdirelle|work: check weapon slot for a fishing pole :P
08:42.21[SW]Dodgebut well it was just a joke, i can live with rebuffing^^
08:42.23Adirelle|worknaah, just disable it
08:47.02theoddone33is there a generally accepted "best" tree for dk leveling?
08:47.26theoddone33just stacking points in unholy at the moment since it looks good
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08:57.20orionshockthere any zh Translators here?
08:59.38NivFreaknovember 13th? blizzard is fucking crazy
08:59.52thultheoddone33: frost of course.
08:59.56thulwe all knoiw that frost is best.
09:00.03VulcanusIm just glad I dont have to sit outside during fucking winter this year
09:00.03VulcanusXD
09:00.05thulNivFreak: that is wotlk release?
09:00.10NivFreakthul: apparently
09:00.22thulNivFreak: oi oi, well, we all know what I'll be doing this xmas then
09:00.25CIA-5803orionshock * r81740 10GuildCraft/Localizations/ (zhCN-Locale.lua zhTW-Locale.lua):
09:00.25CIA-58GuildCraft:
09:00.25CIA-58-Fix zh* Locale typo
09:00.27thulscrew going home for the holidays
09:00.30NivFreakhaha
09:00.43thulI'm so getting emergency rations, lots of toilet paper and soda.
09:00.47thulcamping in my student flat :-D
09:00.48thuljuhu!
09:07.15WraithanNov 13th isn't official until it is on a blizzard page.
09:07.34theoddone33they must be wrapping up the beta cycle if they want to hit november 13
09:07.48theoddone33games shipping in october are finishing in the next week or two
09:07.52orionshocklet's not forget www.wowwiki.com/soon ?
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09:11.44Adys[12:06:48] <Wraithan> Nov 13th isn't official until it is on a blizzard page.
09:11.56Adysmore like its not official until official fansites are actually allowed to release the date
09:11.57Adyscoughs
09:12.51WraithanThey are basing that on an advertisment, not on ANYTHING AT ALL that is posted on a blizzard page or from any official blizzard source.
09:16.34nevcairieltheoddone33: they can always patch in changes, they only ship the hard-data anyway .. art, sound .. :) and knowing blizzard, they will use every minute to patch to make it perfect
09:16.57theoddone33yeah I'm thinking mostly console games, it's pretty different for pc/mac
09:17.06Pneumatusi have a feeling 3.0 is gonna cause some fun balancing issues in SWP
09:17.21theoddone33so far dk starting zone is pretty cool
09:17.25theoddone33but you all know that already
09:17.26nevcairielI think all Blizz releases had a immediate patch on release
09:17.30BibiWraithan
09:17.32BibiYou suck.
09:18.08theoddone33when you come back and the whole place has changed, that's pretty pro
09:18.17ramozwhats their source bibi?
09:18.27WraithanBibi: Way to provide input that is relevent to the conversation, perhaps you should go back to the hole you came from troll.
09:18.28mykxPneumatus: of course, lets hope that locks dont suck or we'll have to apologize to our mages and beg them to raid again :P
09:18.33nevcairielya the phasing of outdoor zones is amazing
09:18.41Pneumatuswe still maintain 2 mages for muru
09:18.50Bibiramoz : I'm the source
09:18.59Bibiand it's more than enough !
09:19.03ramozlol
09:19.05Pneumatusand table ofc :>
09:19.10theoddone33so not everyone gets a penguin?
09:19.12Bibino, seriously, it's nothing more than an ad campaign launched too early
09:19.14mykxwe can only kill KJ with no hunters/mages in the raid, because they fail at orbs apparently
09:19.28Pneumatuswell, hunters failing
09:19.30Pneumatusno news there
09:19.31FinalXand you're surprised?
09:19.48FinalXmost people that roll hunters and mages only want to do one thing: get big numbers from their shots
09:20.01nevcairielthats not true for locks?
09:20.02FinalXmost of them are good at _just that_ :)
09:20.04WraithanThat is why I rolled my mage.
09:20.18WraithanThat and arena as a frost mage is fun
09:20.21Bibiand Ghostcrawler actually replied in a thread with the release date mentionned, and didn't make any "OH GOD ! IT'S NOT NOVEMBER 13 AT ALL" comment about it
09:20.25FinalXnevcairiel: skillcoil!
09:20.28mykxwell I dunno the funny part is, this guy blows and then complains hard when he can't get in the raid to blow a TON of saved up dkp on KJ loot that he didn't earn
09:21.22nevcairielBibi: only because his comments would even look more blur'ish if he started doing that
09:21.46Pneumatusi guess with sunwell raidance removed SWP could concievably be easier
09:22.01Bibiwell, I wouldn't confirm something if I wasn't sure about it anyway
09:22.01nevcairieleveryone does more dmg, too
09:22.03theoddone33is the DK opening supposed to be an earlier time or something?
09:22.06Bibiit's november 13, live with it.
09:22.21mykxfrom what I have read, wowhead is a recognised blizzard fansite and the add came from blizzard so it's likely either a ploy to pull away from warhammer leavers or infact it's coming out on that date
09:22.47Bibithe original release date was November 4
09:22.53Bibiand it was leaked on fansites
09:22.56nevcairielits not like any date is set in stone by blizz, if they encounter some serious issues, they will postpone again
09:23.02BibiBlizzard pushed it one week later because of the US elections
09:25.43nevcairielare they afraid that noone is going to vote because they are busy playing?
09:25.44nevcairiel:P
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09:29.36Fisker-why so knowledgable Bibi >:3?
09:29.46Bibibecause I'm Bibi
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09:33.18Pneumatuswhy so why so, Fisker- :<
09:33.28Fisker-fuck you Pneumatus
09:35.19orionshockanyone got the file name for what the blizzy downloader is getting?
09:35.30Pneumatusbg downloader?
09:35.51PneumatusWoW-2.4.3-to-3.0.1-TBC-EU-Update\Installer Tome2.mpq
09:36.08orionshockthought so, 3.0 soft patch
09:37.06orionshockPneumatus: u got a directory listing? how many files or size?
09:37.13Pneumatusjust that one file atm
09:37.42Pneumatus992Mb for EU english... and a bit smaller for enUS i think
09:37.42orionshocki guess the background downloader won't launch while wow is active :\
09:37.49Pneumatusit will if you tell it to
09:39.23orionshock:\ im on liux
09:39.27orionshockit don't want to launch
09:40.00[SW]Dodgeorionshock: eu or us?
09:40.04orionshockus
09:40.24[SW]Dodgehm ok, i could provide you an eu mirror ^^
09:40.34Pneumatusninja the torrent from someone perhaps
09:40.58orionshockna
09:41.07orionshocki got wow open atm, it would be reasonable..
09:41.21orionshocki think i got the launcher setup to not do background downloads while wow is open
09:41.25orionshockthat would xplain whay
09:41.25Pneumatusopen the launcher and changed the setup
09:41.29Pneumatus^^
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09:53.28Pneumatusare achievements being added in the 3.0 patch?
09:54.04Fisker-yes
09:55.14Pneumatuswin
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10:06.05nevcairielthat i means i have to run tons of old instances again
10:06.13nevcairielstupid 5mans and heroic 5mans i didnt get credit for
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10:09.41theoddone33the tanking tree seems kind of neat
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10:21.51orionshocktheoddone33: what class?
10:21.56theoddone33DK
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10:22.03orionshockhehe
10:22.18orionshocki predict that DK will get the same treatment as ret-pallys
10:22.30orionshockonly the BEST of the Best will get a spot
10:22.53nevcairielall classes will get that now, if blizzs plan works
10:23.12orionshockhehe
10:23.39orionshockthey have called for the crusade of the raiders - out time will come again !
10:23.52nevcairielAnd man, i cleaned and sorted my inventory and bank, i really should do that more often
10:23.58nevcairielhow much space i have now
10:24.10orionshockguild bank alt :D
10:24.33nevcairielnah dont need that
10:24.56nevcairielI have two bank alts with 18-slot bags in bank and inv, had those from before Guild Banks existed
10:25.05nevcairieland its all i need in space
10:25.24orionshockhehe
10:25.37orionshocki opened up a 3tab gbank to put all my herbs in from farming
10:25.46orionshocki plan to power level me a scribe :D
10:26.11nevcairielyou dont even need that much herbs
10:26.29Maldiviahehe, I should have enough herbs myself to go to 375 when it's released
10:26.30orionshockmeh, i like even numbers
10:26.39orionshock~100 of each
10:27.03nevcairielyeah alot people stack stuff for reaching 375
10:27.37nevcairielAbove 375 gets tricky though, you start to need northrend herbs =P
10:27.41JY`<PROTECTED>
10:27.50odti sold all my black lotuses, hope they aren't needed much
10:27.59JY`mageroyal
10:27.59nevcairielnah, only default herbs
10:28.10JY`i think it will be changed
10:28.23nevcairielRight now inscription is broken anyway
10:28.25JY`every recipe for glyphs has the same requirements
10:28.30nevcairielyou can level all the way with lvl1 herb
10:28.32nevcairiel+s
10:28.36JY`:)
10:28.36odtwas quite a PITA to level jc when lots of azerothian diamonds were needed for like 10 levels
10:28.42odtand they cost like 20g at AH
10:28.42theoddone33so DKs are supposed to be anti-spell tanks
10:28.47theoddone33but do they suck against melee or what?
10:28.50Neyaheh, I sold out most of my primals/essences and herbs when I stopped raiding, I have never seen that much gold on any single one of my characters as after that.
10:29.06nevcairieltheoddone33: not exactly, all tanks are supposed to be able to tank the same bosses
10:29.21theoddone33hm
10:29.27JY`antimagic shell is great though
10:29.35theoddone33DK tanking seems interesting though
10:29.42theoddone33of course all tanking did until I actually tried it and sucked
10:29.53nevcairielI like warrior tanking
10:30.25CarancuI enjoy my feraldruid as tank most, warrior feels odd for me.
10:30.55Carancubut that is some of the great things with the changes blizzard are making, so all can tank all, more or less.
10:31.24nevcairielalot of feral druids keep QQing about how their tree is broken, and they didnt get anything new
10:31.45nevcairielin wotlk
10:32.14CarancuI think it's close to perfect. seems like a hybrid of the tree before the big druid revamp and after.
10:33.24nevcairielThe Druid in our guild QQs because he cannot spec all mitigation and threat talents at once
10:33.27Carancuand I really enjoy the fact that I can't get all talents. allthough some talents is still odd.
10:33.32Carancuhaha
10:33.43nevcairielhe thinks it has to be possible, because he already has to choose between cat and bear
10:33.47nevcairielso he wants to get all bear!
10:33.56erikhrawr
10:34.32CarancuFeral agression is still a odd talent, even after all this time.
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10:35.05VonhintenHOME`I can understand not wanting ferals to be able to spec for bear and cat, but mitigation/threat not possible either?  that's silly
10:35.07Carancuas it doesn't really fit in with either cat or bear in a smooth way.
10:35.23nevcairielVonhintenHOME`: well you have to choose how to mix both
10:35.24Carancuit is possible, atleast I don't have a problem with it.
10:35.39nevcairielyou cant get 100% all
10:36.02nevcairielBut i dont see the problem really. Restos cant spec everything either anymore
10:36.12nevcairielI have to choose the way i want to play with my talents
10:36.49erikhback to how it was before tree form :)
10:36.55Wraithanenhancment shaman are still completely cookie cutter, other than the ones who haven't done their homeowrk
10:37.07erikhwhen it was sane to spec direct heals on a resto druid
10:37.11Carancuwith a fast grab of the "needed" tanktalents I still got 14 points to put out as I want.
10:37.38Carancuor make that 13 if berserk is classed as needed.
10:37.48WraithanEnhancment dpending on how good they make the wolfies, I will either have 20 or 21 talents left over after standard spec
10:38.12Wraithanto either go PvP or more dps
10:38.35Wraithaneven then, it is likely to go more dps because the pvp stuff isn't *GREAT* just slightly better
10:38.39Carancuwhat I worry most about that talent Wraithan is inability to control those wolfes.
10:39.26Carancuare they working as druids treents or like a normal pet? I've never found out actually.
10:39.36Wraithanthey have a pet bar
10:39.46Wraithancontrol them at the same time
10:39.46Carancuphew.
10:40.10Wraithancurrently their dps is horrid, and their skills are half/non implemented
10:40.33Caranculast time I tried to raid as balance my trees decided to go for the boss just after we cleared the trash in front of it...
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10:42.03Pkekyo|will there be a WotLK collector's edition?
10:42.55FinalXyes
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10:43.14CrazyBennyyes, but the extra content isnt known yet
10:43.16Pkekyo|price/sold where?
10:44.21orionshockanother reason to gather up so many herbs is to make the glyphs to sell :D ppl will want them for leveling :D
10:44.42Pkekyo|I need to know how much I'll have to whore myself :ø
10:44.43Pkekyo|:P
10:45.35orionshockkinda like getting primal mights
10:45.46orionshockas far as i know, there isn't a replacement for the riding crop
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10:47.34Pneumatusthey are just phasing out the riding gear post-70 as it stands
10:47.41orionshockno
10:47.59orionshockthey changed it to enchant the mount directly - a 1to1 ratio :D
10:48.31Pneumatushttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9679954886&sid=2003
10:48.52nevcairielorionshock your intel fails
10:49.06Pneumatusquoting dis
10:49.07orionshockfk
10:49.17nevcairielthey did change the item to enchant a mount, and afterwards they removed mounts as items, so you cannot enchant them anymore
10:49.24nevcairielso right now, they are unusable
10:49.31nevcairieland when you copy a new char, you have the old crop
10:49.34nevcairielnot the enchant thing
10:49.43Elkanobut you get the new carrot
10:49.52nevcairielnot anymore, iirc
10:50.00nevcairielor they forgot to remove that
10:50.04Elkanoat least I did on beta
10:50.05nevcairielhowever it doesnt work anymore
10:50.30nevcairielright now, the trinket stays a trinket, and goes defunct post 70
10:50.35nevcairieluntil they implement something new
10:50.43Pneumatusmore and more indication its going to go to a glyph
10:52.08nevcairielI wonder when we will see the first minor glyphs in game
10:52.21Pneumatusyeh, its gotta be pretty soon
10:52.22nevcairielalso, didnt they talk about 3 sizes before?
10:52.40CarancuI have memories of that aswell.
10:52.49orionshockonly 2 atm iirc
10:53.00Pneumatusim getting more and more convinced that a 4th major glyph > every other profession benefit
10:53.03orionshockthere is graphics for a center glyph, but it's not active
10:53.11orionshockim sure we can hack up the UI code and find out
10:53.18Pneumatusthe center glyph is unlocked for inscripters, iirc
10:53.25nevcairielits not right now
10:53.32ElkanoI wonder if that will become an inscriptor only glyph or sth that drops from raids
10:53.36nevcairieland tbh, a major glyph would be way too OP
10:53.43nevcairielmaybe a special version
10:53.44Pneumatusbut yeh, it would be pretty OP
10:53.51nevcairielwith a special kind of glyph
10:53.55Pneumatusmaybe it will be inscriptor only, kind of like ring enchants
10:54.10Pneumatusnot as powerful as a major glyph, but actually more use than a minotr
10:54.13Pneumatus-t
10:54.19Carancugot a feeling that we'll see a lot of alchemists switching oer to insription.
10:54.27Pneumatusalchemy is awesome though
10:54.45Pneumatusthe alchemy bonuses are good enough not to drop
10:54.46JY`alchemy is not yet implemented on beta
10:55.00Pneumatusits partially implemented, and the bonuses are implemented
10:55.13nevcairielhow is alchemy awesome?
10:55.16Pneumatusmixologist, or whatever its called is implemented, and it works
10:55.28Pneumatus25% extra bonus effect from all potions/elixirs/flasks
10:55.28Carancuthat one is not really awesome.
10:55.31Elkanothe production professions also give bonuses?
10:55.55Carancuin their own ways, most do.
10:56.00odtyeah, heard something about crit for skinners and healing for herbalism
10:56.20nevcairielstamina for mining
10:56.21Elkanoyeah, but that are gathering professions
10:56.30VonhintenHOME`25% is nice, but it's not huge
10:56.31Carancuthe heal is crap for most people, 1.5k hp, the good thing is that you can use it without breaking forms etc.
10:56.36Elkanotailoring gets improved cloth drop rates
10:56.42Pneumatuswell prior to LK all crafting professions had their own profession specific bonuses
10:56.52Pneumatuswith bop items etc
10:57.01Pneumatusalchemists had... mad alchemy potions
10:57.19VonhintenHOME`and special trinkets
10:57.20Carancuthey had their trinket too, and that one was rather good.
10:57.22nevcairielthey added some new kind of alchemists potion
10:57.25VonhintenHOME`none of which were good for a rogue
10:57.35nevcairielrather useless, good for skilling up :P
10:57.57Carancuthat new "random effect" potion?
10:58.00nevcairielyeah
10:58.10nevcairieli produced tons of it because it was so nice for leveling alchemy
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10:58.24nevcairielamazingly, when i was in bear form, i always got a healing potion
10:58.29nevcairielexactly what i needed!
10:58.38nevcairielall other mostly got me a haste-potion
10:59.15Pkekyo|~date
10:59.16purlIt is now 2008.09.15 10:59:16 GMT
11:00.39Carancuwould be fun if some kind of random shapeshift potion got added.
11:00.57Carancuthat actually didn't break on normal shapeshifting...
11:01.01Pkekyo|Carancu: noggenfogger?
11:01.05Pkekyo|ah
11:01.07Carancusort of.
11:01.28CarancuI miss running around as a skeleton swinging my twohander at 1s attackspeed.
11:02.25Carancuthat arrakoa disguise from skettis is fun though, it doesn't break on shapeshifting (or didn't last I checked), and look hillarious on a druid in flightform.
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11:14.25theoddone33mmm
11:14.34theoddone33death knight event at light's hope was cool
11:21.29orionshockim glad they added that ending quest that sent you to the king of stormwind
11:22.20orionshockimo there should be a dialouge there where you can accept or decline and be booted from the city :D
11:22.20Pkekyo|lmfao
11:22.25orionshock& IMO warlocks should have to do the same thing
11:22.28Pkekyo|the newspaper I read has got an online countdown going for WotLK :p
11:22.29orionshockwould only make sense
11:22.47Pkekyo|58 days
11:22.49Pkekyo|shrugs
11:23.48stew_ahas anyone tried strand of the ancients yet? or has that not been implemented properly yet?
11:30.31theoddone33too badthe server crashed just as I was finishing DK stuff
11:31.06orionshockquestion to all the old ppl here, Purple Lotus, was it hard to farm back pre-bc?
11:33.52Dottedhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2529.500 <- i wonder why ruRU changes cant be commited commented out, so that whenever the other localization changes have been made the russian can be commited - seperating seems stupid and pointless imo
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11:39.13odtorionshock: don't really remember farming it, but i still have stacks and stacks of it on my old bank chars. so must be quite common
11:39.14Carancunot at all orionshock.
11:41.51odtofftopic: anyone know what the freeware gui for mplayer/mencoder/mp4box was called
11:44.07Wraithanodt: gmplayer is mplayer's gui or one of them, vlc is basically mplayer libraries with a wxwidgets gui
11:44.54odtok, the one for mp4box is called yamb if anyone cares, still can't remember the app that i used for the conversions though, it had nice templaets for mobile phones etc
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11:51.59theoddone33I wonder if it's possible to miss some of the DK talent points
11:52.11theoddone33that would be ... hilarious
11:52.40ktwoanyone knows an addon what can track logon/logoff of players of another guild? #
11:53.21odtmediacoder!
11:54.01odtktwo: there's no incoming event for players in other guilds, unless they're all your friends
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11:54.47ktwoisnt it possible to do that with /Who Guildname and track it like all 30 seconds?
12:00.41theoddone33I wish I could keep the starting DK armor til 80
12:00.42theoddone33:(
12:00.45theoddone33it looks awesome
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12:05.21[SW]Dodgetheoddone33: you can :P ^^
12:05.38theoddone33awesome
12:05.40theoddone33glad I didn't
12:05.42theoddone33... I think
12:06.21[SW]Dodgetheoddone33: the only disadvantage is that the stats will be too low @ 80 but you can keep it in your abgs/bank for style ;D
12:06.37theoddone33oh
12:06.46theoddone33hah for some reason I thought you  meant it's possible to miss talent points
12:07.08theoddone33yeah it probably is worth keeping
12:07.29theoddone33love that they give you all the flight paths for free
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12:14.51odtthere's a release date?
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12:20.32kenlyricthey have a couple weeks past release to really worry about raid tuning.
12:20.52kenlyricwell, a week at least :)
12:21.08Obelixprimethey're already tuning stuff from the beta feedback
12:21.26Obelixprimewhat i'm really worried about is that ~month of raiding within the wrath framework
12:21.40Obelixprimei.e. potion sickness, spell and gear reworking
12:21.44kenlyricI don't see any reason they can't meet this release date. they're probably done with talent reviews on in-house builds, which is why we have a PTR.
12:21.49kenlyricit probably won't be a month
12:22.03kenlyricthey said they wanted to drop 3.0 closer to wrath release this time around.
12:22.08Obelixprimespeculation says 3.0.2 will be live in mid october
12:22.17kenlyricbut that's from an idiot frenchman
12:22.20Obelixprimeso that's like 3 weeks
12:22.23Obelixprimei suppose
12:22.30Obelixprimeyou're saying early november then?
12:22.40kenlyricI'd  say the end of october, two-three weeks
12:22.48kenlyricand you shouldn't be raiding then anyway
12:22.59Obelixprimewe still need to kill kiljaeden
12:23.01kenlyricyou should be leveling your Recruit-a-Friend alts 60-70 with the xp changes.
12:23.04Obelixprimewe've had a 29% attempt :(
12:23.05kenlyricyou better hurry then.
12:23.20Obelixprimehaah, i'm working on my frist set of raf alts
12:23.22Obelixprimethey're 39
12:23.32Obelixprimeshould get them to mid 50s next weekend
12:25.19Adirelle|workhas anyone some trouble getting into the PTR ?
12:26.58ObelixprimeNo realms appear when I get to the realm selection screen
12:27.51theoddone33so frost is the fury tree
12:27.53theoddone33interesting
12:34.16[SW]DodgeAdirelle|work: eu ptr is ok (at least char select)
12:35.50stew_ahow big is the PTR download?
12:35.59[SW]Dodge1gb for eu
12:36.04theoddone33I think the best way to dps with a deathknight is going to be a huuuuuge castsequence macro
12:36.05[SW]Dodgei think us too
12:36.24stew_a1gb, meh, have to get it later tonight
12:37.50[SW]Dodgeomg 6day copy queue O.o
12:38.11[SW]Dodgewant my wl on ptr ._.
12:39.36odtit isnt full at least, the queue?
12:40.30[SW]Dodgei cant copy a char
12:41.53odtthat's what i mean
12:42.02odti also checked at 2am before i went to bed, it was still full
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12:43.51theoddone33DK zonen would be slightly better if you could get 1h weapons
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12:54.08Pkekyo|shrugs
12:54.14Pkekyo|HL1 graphics are utterly shite :p
12:54.24theoddone33that game was great though
12:54.40Pkekyo|indeed
12:54.43Pkekyo|I'm playing it again now
12:54.52Pkekyo|doing HL today, OpFor tomorrow, BlueShift on wednesday
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12:54.57theoddone33because of the large hardon collider?
12:55.36theoddone33the thing that bugs me about DK
12:55.43Pkekyo|:P
12:55.48Pkekyo|no, just because I want to :)
12:55.50theoddone33is there are all these talents to give you more runic power
12:55.57theoddone33but there's only like one spell that uses it
12:56.05theoddone33of course I'm only 58
12:56.07theoddone33but still!
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13:06.31KriLL3are the druid form glyphs implemented yet? can't see em on the Coldarra AH
13:06.49Pkekyo|what class is the easiest to level quickly?
13:06.53KriLL3Northrend goes down every few mins now, and it rolls back to the same point each time... =P
13:07.16KriLL3Pkekyo|: well some classes are quick at the start, some slow at the start, then change after a while
13:07.37KriLL3druids are damn slow at the start, but at level 20 we get catform and speed up 3x
13:07.46Pkekyo|how 'bout locks?
13:07.57Pkekyo|never tried warlock before
13:08.04KriLL3no idea
13:08.10KriLL3I guess they have a lot of drinking time
13:08.23KriLL3or perhaps you can lifetap + drain life
13:09.10Pkekyo|always wanted to play lock, but can't be arsed if it'll take me a year to level up
13:09.23KriLL3no class takes that long
13:09.37KriLL3perhaps if you're resto/holy =P
13:09.52Pkekyo|not quite true :p
13:09.59JY`KriLL3: i have some
13:10.13JY`HT glyph
13:10.26JY`which transform HT into a flash heal
13:10.35JY`root glyph
13:10.41JY`and a third i dont remember
13:11.27KriLL3that's not the ones I meant
13:11.33JY`oh
13:11.38JY`i missed "form"
13:11.45JY`minor glyph hare nyi
13:11.51KriLL3kk
13:11.53JY`i didnt saw any on the trainer
13:12.07KriLL3kinda sucky that you can't do that stuff at the barber shop or something similar
13:12.16JY`maybe they are world drop or something like this
13:12.24KriLL3a special trainer at moonglade that lets you pick your forms would also be a way
13:12.30JY`:)
13:13.05GaurongPkekyo|: aff levelling is pretty fast
13:13.14KriLL3isn't demo faster?
13:13.16Gaurongreally mana efficient levleling
13:13.32Gaurongwell you literralyl never have to dirnk as aff
13:13.45KriLL3can't a demo lifetap + drainlife?
13:13.49Gaurongand dmg output is decent too
13:14.20Gaurongyeah but dark pact and siphon life mean you have to do that much less
13:14.32KriLL3ferals are imba after we get catform and LoTP, before that we're not that quick
13:14.44JY`and mangle
13:14.47JY`actually
13:14.57JY`changed catform so much
13:15.00KriLL3well mangle is nice, but LoTP means we never have have downtime
13:15.04KriLL3heals on crit
13:15.27KriLL3+ mana regen in forms that keeps going while you don't use mana, fight a while and you got full mana again
13:16.03Adirelle|workanyone having the PTR EU client to download ?
13:16.14KriLL3northrend world server on coldarra is a yo-yo today
13:16.43KriLL3goes down so often the rollback means you don't make any progress :D
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13:19.27JY`KriLL3: i gave up playing on coldarra during normal daytime
13:19.35JY`i played before going to work this morning
13:19.47JY`i managed to murder harold lane :)
13:20.04KriLL3seems blizz wants us all to turn nocturnal
13:20.11JY`so, 1hour lvling a day
13:20.29JY`it's hard to wake up early :(
13:20.57JY`we can't even make instances
13:21.28JY`blizz should bring back waiting queue when log in into coldarra
13:21.36JY`if it is too populated
13:21.40KriLL3I flew over wintergarde and for some odd reason I landed though I wasn't going there, and now there is no flightmaster there
13:22.08Pkekyo|:P
13:22.11JY`wait for lag
13:22.11Pkekyo|brilliant
13:22.20theoddone33well I dunno, blood is for tanking, unholy seems gimmicky, and frost is for dual wielding
13:22.20JY`thats a 1 action / 5 min
13:22.24theoddone33not sure I like any of them yet
13:22.35JY`all actions are resolved once every 5 minutes
13:22.35Megalonblood for tanking? :>
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13:22.48JY`blood have great talents for tanking
13:22.50KriLL3you got blood and frost confused
13:22.52JY`vampiric blood :>
13:23.02theoddone33hm?
13:23.02JY`expertise
13:23.05Megalon!!!
13:23.17theoddone33there are tanking talents in all 3 trees, it's weird
13:23.21JY`blood is 2h
13:23.24JY`frost is dw
13:23.29JY`unholy is spell
13:23.47KriLL3a DK can't be a pure caster can he?
13:24.04JY`not pure caster
13:24.14theoddone33I figured blood was for tanking because it has all of the "heal yourself" stuff in it
13:24.15JY`but most unholy dmg goes through shadow damage
13:24.19JY`like a mageladin
13:24.40JY`unholy/frost for magic tanking
13:24.42KriLL3theoddone33: a tank shouldn't heal himself
13:24.50theoddone33I know this
13:24.54JY`anti magic zone :>
13:24.55theoddone33but warriors have last stand
13:25.02theoddone33and sheild wall
13:25.04theoddone33etc etc
13:25.10Pkekyo|that's oh-shit buttons, not heals
13:25.14JY`+50% healing for 20s on the tank is GREAT
13:25.23theoddone33so are the blood ones?
13:25.32KriLL3druids have that on frenzied regen also now
13:25.47KriLL3with a glyph or talent, forgot which
13:25.53JY`yes
13:26.00JY`glyph
13:26.15KriLL3imo it sucks you can't switch glyphs without destroying them, can't re-glyph for another role
13:26.39Pkekyo|crossroads = win at lvl 13?
13:28.37JY`yes it should
13:29.01JY`glyphs being destroyed is consistent with enchanting and gems
13:29.13JY`just you can't respec :)
13:29.25JY`completly respec
13:29.42JY`maybe this will allow free respec in the future
13:30.07JY`respec cost will be put into glyphs changing
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13:31.08KriLL3well us ferals fill 2-3 roles with one spec, sucks to change glyphs
13:32.31Carancudon't change them then
13:32.38KriLL3:\
13:33.30nevcairiel3 roles?
13:33.41nevcairielI can understand tanking and dps
13:33.45nevcairielbut 3?
13:33.45KriLL3pvp
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13:33.57nevcairielwell if you want to pvp, its your own fault
13:34.10KriLL3I like punishing myself
13:34.18nevcairieleveryone has to re-glyph for pvp, theoretically
13:34.41KriLL3it just feels like yet another money sink
13:34.49nevcairielsame as i had to respec for doing proper pvp
13:34.51nevcairielyet i dont do it
13:34.56KriLL3enchants were enough, now we got enchants, gems, glyphs
13:34.58nevcairieland just do pvp with my pve talents =P
13:34.59Carancuit is, proffesions are a moneysink
13:35.10Megalonoh
13:35.12Megalonyou want a
13:35.29Megaloneierlegende wollmilchsau equip
13:35.39Megalonno clue how to translate that :c
13:35.45KriLL3always fun getting a new chest, 700g~ worth of gems and an enchant on top of that
13:35.53Megalonall-in-one device suitable for every purpose
13:35.55KriLL3Megalon: it's gibberish to me
13:36.10nevcairiel(we get epic gems from the guild bank for main-equip)
13:36.19theoddone33dumb that DKs have to do triage
13:36.33elite3vilTriage is fun though!
13:36.34Carancuhmm, last time I got an upgrade I stuffed out 0g, for gems and enchants, it's not really like you upgrade ofthen anyway.
13:36.34theoddone33also dumb that I stayed up all night playing this beta
13:36.46Megalonbtw, i like it how coldarra always crashes when i'm looting a titanium node
13:36.48KriLL3nevcairiel: doesn't someone have to make those gems?
13:36.51Megalon:[
13:37.12elite3vilKriLL3: We have guildies that cut them, and they drop while we're raiding?
13:37.14KriLL3Megalon: simple, it's always crashing
13:37.19Carancuyea, they have to be made, "can anyone of you cut this for me?", that's how you do it :P
13:37.23phyberKriLL3: if someone charges you 700g to cut the gems, you chose the wrong guy to cut them ;)
13:37.29elite3vil^^
13:37.36KriLL3phyber: chest has 3x slots
13:37.50pb_ee1~purl
13:37.52purlWe are the purl, prepare to be assimilated
13:37.52KriLL3they cost 200-300 to buy on the AH, I don't have a source of the mats
13:37.56nevcairielKriLL3: "make"?
13:38.18nevcairielgems drop in raids, guild jewelcrafters cut them for free
13:38.20nevcairiel*shrug
13:38.30KriLL3that's kinda lame
13:38.45KriLL3pvpers need gems also, we don't get em for free :<
13:38.51elite3vilYou don't?
13:38.59elite3vilI thought you could buy gems with honor and arena points?
13:39.04elite3vilLast time I checked, at least.
13:39.08KriLL3that's not free
13:39.15nevcairielits not free in raiding either
13:39.19nevcairielwe spent time to get them
13:39.22elite3vil^
13:39.24nevcairielyou spent time for honor -> buy gems
13:39.25phyberrepair costs++
13:39.29KriLL3nevcairiel: did you have to kill something you normally wouldn't?
13:39.45KriLL3if not it's a free bonus
13:39.50nevcairielKriLL3: occasionally, sure
13:39.59nevcairielwe do more trash to get the drops
13:40.10nevcairielthen strictly necessary
13:40.24elite3vilWe clear the M'uru trash after we kill KJ to get more trash drops (gems sunmotes patterns, etc)
13:41.05nevcairielWhen our setup for muru isnt good enough, we usually do the trash before muru and then call the raid
13:41.16elite3vilYeah, that too.
13:41.25elite3vilWe haven't had that problem in a few weeks though, thankfully.
13:41.41nevcairielwe do at least one day a week
13:41.49nevcairielwe didnt kill muru yet
13:41.54elite3vilThat's the nice thing about having a two day raid week =D
13:41.59nevcairieland one day the 4 trash bosses
13:42.03nevcairielthen 4 days muru
13:42.06nevcairielits so exhausting
13:42.19elite3vil5/6 Tuesday, KJ + BT Weds
13:42.24Pneumatuswe just started muru last night
13:42.25elite3vilbs the rest of the week
13:42.44nevcairielI always get totally sleepy after 2 hours muru
13:42.47nevcairielits a so boring fight
13:42.53elite3vilYeah, wait until KJ
13:43.03Pneumatuswe had a 5 hour raid planned to get twins down, and killed them on the 2nd attempt...
13:43.11Pneumatuskinda threw the raid plan out the window
13:43.12nevcairielI essentially sit there and spam heals on our void tank waiting for someone in the add groups to mess up
13:43.15elite3vilour raids start at 7. if we hadn't killed him by 10, we'd start to fall apart
13:43.30KriLL3nevcairiel: how's that different from any other pve fight?
13:43.46elite3vilYeah, I sit there and wait for one of our locks/mages to pull agro off me and aoe shadowbolt their side. >.>
13:44.03KriLL3the northrend world server on coldarra is doing down every few mins, and now it's time for a server restart in 13 mins... this server isn't up much...
13:44.05elite3vilOne of them always does it. seeding just as the void sent. is dying.
13:44.16nevcairielKriLL3: in other fights i have to move, switch target, pay attention, do announcements, or something. not just spam heals on one player, without moving, waiting for someone else to mess up, or that phase to end
13:44.30[SW]Dodgepro fisher there? need to know min skill for Bay of Storms ins Azshara
13:44.35elite3vilnevcairiel: what class are you?
13:44.41nevcairielresto druid
13:44.47[SW]Dodgei always get skill not high enough with 232+95
13:45.02KriLL3healing isn't exactly what I'd call fun, I was resto in the BWL days
13:45.11elite3vilSkill Required: 330 to cast, 425 to stop fish getting away.
13:45.12nevcairielits more fun then doing DPS
13:45.25[SW]Dodgeelite3vil: thanks
13:45.31kenlyricKriLL3: you were the wrong kind of healer
13:45.36KriLL3?
13:45.54elite3vilnevcairiel: You heal the void spawn tank, or the sent tank?
13:46.01nevcairielelite3vil: both
13:46.27nevcairielbut the spawn tank doesnt really need that much heal
13:46.32elite3vilYeah, I tank the spawns... they don't really seem to hit that hard.
13:46.49nevcairielthe sent however does hit hard
13:46.52elite3vilI actually have to switch my felmyst shield out for the BT trash shield so I take a little damage, for mana regen
13:46.54elite3vilYeah.. he does
13:47.18elite3vilIf he spawns on top of me and I'm not paying attn.. consecration = my death.
13:47.35nevcairielhehe
13:47.41nevcairielwe had fun yesterday
13:48.01nevcairielour pally was just doing holy wrath as the sent spawned
13:48.27elite3vilI've done that too.
13:48.37elite3vilThat hurts.
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13:48.41nevcairielbtw, blizz now officially posted a press release saying that wrath is scheduled for nov 13th
13:48.54elite3vilSo.. mid January?
13:48.58elite3vil-ish
13:49.05Josh_Borkelol
13:49.07nevcairielwe'll see
13:49.20nevcairielonce they announce dates, they tend to at least stay near them
13:49.34kenlyricthat's why they wait so long
13:49.48Pneumatusi wonder how much holiday time is being confirmed in workplaces all over the world
13:49.53kenlyricIt tells me they're at a point internally  that they're comfortable with.
13:49.55nevcairielhehe
13:49.57KriLL3I like that they're not like most large game companies, set a date at the start/mid of a project and then release it then no matter if it's done or not
13:50.08KriLL3and then patch it even before it hit's stores
13:50.18KriLL3Epic is like that also (mostly)
13:50.21nevcairielyou mean like EA pressured WAR out?
13:50.31KriLL3nevcairiel: anything ever made by EA basically
13:50.35KriLL3or rather released by
13:50.49nevcairielhey we'll just remove that content, and that class and that, and that too, hey only half the game, but ready in time!
13:50.51KriLL3they force people to release on dates they want
13:50.51kenlyricwhat it suggests to me is that the design is done, now all that's left is balancing
13:51.05Pneumatusas long as they get content stable up to and including naxx, they can just patch in fixes while people are levelling anywya
13:51.22JerleMinaranaxx will last about a week after guilds hit 80
13:51.29nevcairielthey have 3 weeks until people get bored with naxx :P
13:51.32JerleMinaraso "up to and including naxx" is not enough.
13:51.40kenlyricthey don't care about those people
13:51.44JerleMinarahah!
13:51.48JerleMinarayou're joking, right?
13:51.50kenlyric2% of the population is hardly worth their attention.
13:52.00JerleMinaracutting edge is what keeps casuals playing a lot of the time dude.
13:52.05kenlyricyes
13:52.06JerleMinaraliving, breathing carrots
13:52.15kenlyricit's still a carrot to the 98%
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13:52.51Obelixprimefor people who aren't in sunwell epics i doubt they'll be able to clear naxx that quickly
13:52.55nevcairielUlduar will probably be playable as well
13:53.16nevcairieland malygos
13:53.20nevcairielat least that was their plan
13:53.33Stanzillaand that black dragon
13:53.38Stanzillafor 10/25
13:53.39nevcairielthose extreme guilds will always clear the content after a month tops
13:53.47nevcairielyou cant keep them busy =P
13:53.55Kaelteng'morning
13:53.56kenlyricyou'd go crazy trying
13:54.01elite3vilmorning Kaelten
13:54.01JerleMinarai have this feeling that there won't be as much raid content in lich king
13:54.09JerleMinaraas there was in BC
13:54.20JerleMinaraconsidering a full fourth of it is stuff we've already seen
13:54.28nevcairielthere will be 2 full blown raid instances on release
13:54.34nevcairieland 2 single-boss instances
13:55.03Megalonwill all chamber of aspects raids be like Sartharion?
13:55.08KriLL3how many were there at the launch of TBC?
13:55.12Megalonor is there no information on the others
13:55.19nevcairielKriLL3: same amount really
13:55.24kenlyricno
13:55.30nevcairielSSC/TK + Gruul/Mag
13:55.37kenlyricoh, yes
13:55.40JerleMinaradifference was, one of those full blown raid instances wasn't already old news
13:55.42Megalonand karazhan ;)
13:55.44kenlyricI keep forgetting SSC was there at launch
13:55.46JerleMinaranaxx is for all intents and purposes the same
13:55.50kenlyricsince people took so long to get there.
13:55.59JerleMinarano new tactics, no new strats
13:56.02kenlyricold news to .5% of the population
13:56.02Obelixprimeattunements ftl
13:56.07kenlyricthe population we don't care about
13:56.14kenlyrics/we/they/
13:56.19KriLL3well how many % of current players played naxx?
13:56.23JerleMinaraexcept the strats are all out there and very widely available
13:56.24nevcairielI remember all naxx fights too, still i look forward to playing it again
13:56.34JerleMinaraand they do care about that population
13:56.38JerleMinarabut whatever, off to class
13:56.56Obelixprimethey want the raid experience to scale better is what i thought
13:57.01Obelixprimethey want naxx to be easy
13:57.11KriLL3imo it would be nice if blizz made level 80 spins on more 60/70 endgame and instances, they're wasted currently
13:57.11JerleMinarayeah but as a parting thought, Obelix
13:57.26JerleMinaraif 50% of your raid content upon release is easy and falls down in a week
13:57.27Megalonwell, for all those people who missed naxx60, they really missed something raidworthy
13:57.30JerleMinarawhere does that leave you
13:57.38Megalonnot like missing hyjal, a boring piece of shit instance
13:57.51Obelixprimehoping that the other 50% takes 2 months to clear?
13:57.53elite3vilMegalon: Hyjal is FUN! What are you talking about?
13:57.56kenlyricWAVES
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13:57.59thulI have never been in naxx
13:58.02kenlyrichyjal is about as fun as the same level in wc3
13:58.09kenlyricWAVES
13:58.10Pneumatushyjal is easy loot for like 2 hours work
13:58.11kenlyricoh
13:58.13kenlyricMORE WAVES
13:58.22elite3vilPneumatus: So is BT
13:58.24Pneumatusboosting alts through hyjal spices it up
13:58.41Industrialpff elitist
13:58.42Industrial:P
13:59.08thulhmm, easy loot?
13:59.14thulso, who will boost me? :-D
13:59.17Groktarincreases the number of waves back to 12
13:59.26elite3vilDoes anyone else find themselves trying to correct themselves in-game using s/old/new?
13:59.27elite3vil>.>
13:59.33nevcairielSome people just have to realize that all they did with Lich King is taking some of that "elitist" raiding just out of the game, they want more and more people to see the content
13:59.35Industrial<
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14:00.06Industrialshhh!
14:00.06Pneumatusthat's not a problem, as long as casuals cant get gear equal (or better) than the top end raiders
14:00.09Industrialhides
14:00.09nevcairielBut i agree that Naxx currently is simply too easy
14:00.20nevcairielat least the 25
14:00.30KriLL3well isn't the first raid supposed to be easy?
14:00.31nevcairielyou shouldnt be able to run through kelthuzad with sunwell gear
14:00.35kenlyricI don't see how it will to make gear the only appeal of 25 man raids
14:00.37KriLL3kara isn't exactly rocket science
14:00.56nevcairielKriLL3: it kinda was when it was first released
14:00.57kenlyric*how it will work
14:00.59elite3vilKriLL3: Do you remember pre-nerf-nerf Nightbane?
14:01.01Pneumatusi disagree, naxx 25 should still be pretty easy in sunwell gear
14:01.08KalrothNightbane 1.0 was fun
14:01.12Groktareeeej
14:01.15KalrothSame with Shade of Aran 1.0
14:01.24Groktarnightbane was ridiculous
14:01.25KriLL3Pneumatus: don't you get better blues on the way than that gear?
14:01.29Groktareven after the skelly nerfs
14:01.35nevcairielPneumatus: why? So you skip all the part about equiping yourself again? :P
14:01.42Adirelle|workelite3vil: I did, but I also have an addon that does the s/x/y/ subst
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14:01.50Groktari'd be potted out the ass and still get hit for 6k
14:01.52Kalrothequips nevcairiel.
14:01.57Pneumatuswell as it stands you wont replace sunwell gear before LK raids anyway
14:02.08elite3vilAdrielle|Work: Eh? Have a link to it?
14:02.24Pneumatuseven 70 dungeon blues are missing stats to make them competive with sunwell gear
14:02.27MaldiviaPneumatus: there are some items from level 75 and forth that are on par and some a bit better than sunwell
14:02.30Adirelle|workelite3vil: not really, it's home-made
14:02.37nevcairielL80 Instance Blues and Heroic Blues are better
14:03.01Pneumatusi guess its partially class dependant though
14:03.23nevcairielTanks need new gear (except feral) to get their crit immunity back
14:03.34elite3vilAdrielle: Reason #1283 I should get back into coding: So I don't look like a complete idiot when I s/x/y in /gchat
14:03.36Pneumatusyeh, and id guess casters need new gear to stack hit higher
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14:04.14elite3vilWarriors in T6 shoulders can get better from a quest in Nexus.. lol
14:04.15Pneumatusfor a healer at least, there doesnt seem to be any upgrades on sunwell gear without gimping vital stats
14:04.40elite3viler, tanking t6 shoulders that is.
14:04.43nevcairielPneumatus: there is actually, it just never dropped for me <.<
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14:05.17Pneumatuspre-70 your probably only gonna visit each instance once or twice unless you're dying for a particular item anyway
14:05.21Pneumatus*80
14:05.33nevcairielnot like that was ever different
14:05.48KriLL3isn't it nice XP to do instances?
14:06.01nevcairielyeah but so boring =P
14:06.17Pneumatuschaining quests is more xp/hr
14:06.20Adirelle|workelite3vil: addon source code : http://ace.pastey.net/96128
14:06.31KriLL3Pneumatus: not that easy to chain em the first time
14:06.42Pneumatusbeta practice :>
14:06.57KriLL3I stopped at 71 since I didn't want to spoil it
14:07.13KriLL3I wanted something to look forward to when I got the retail game, not just do it all once again
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14:09.14elite3vilAdirelle|Work: Thanks.. Now I have something to do for a little while... figure out how to take the source and make it work in-game. =D
14:09.22elite3vil*tabs over to google*
14:11.34ObelixprimeI would probably be like 73-74 on the beta realms if the realms actually stayed up longer than 5 minutes
14:12.06ObelixprimeI've always had the issue where I log on, get a quest or two done, try to do an instance or do something else, and the server asplodes
14:12.59FtH|Daemonaso, who is with me, Blizz will release the game at 11/13 to grab new customers and let DK catch up to 70 but switch over to northrend availability weeks later? ^^
14:13.41Obelixprimeyou think they'll "release" the game on 11/13, but not unlock northrend until a few weeks later?
14:14.18winkillerdon't think they could do that
14:14.21thulI have an exam the 12th december, no way I'm getting the game before that, but when I have had that one.. I'm so getting that expansion and locking myself in
14:17.10kenlyricI don't think anyone is with you on that one.
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14:18.31ShaneSVellerHowdy, while I'm sure plenty of you have beta keys by now, if any of you want your addons tested on beta, I'm familiar with svn/git and bug reporting and have beta access, so feel free to shoot me a PM and we can likely work something out
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14:18.41FtH|Daemonawhy do people never like my conspiracy theories? QQ
14:19.30nevcairielbecause they suck
14:20.42Megalonand nev meant it the negative way!
14:20.45fewyni wish the beta servers would stay up
14:20.47fewynreally
14:20.51fewyni want to hit 80
14:20.54fewyni'm soooooo close
14:21.46[SW]Dodgeis there a screen of the collecters edition pet?:)
14:21.49KriLL3fewyn: slip it some blue pills
14:21.51fewynyes
14:21.57Megalonearlier coldarra was at least playable for 30s after a crash
14:22.19Megalonthey seem to have fixed that with the server restart 10mins ago :>
14:22.27fewynhttp://www.warcraftpets.com/news/images/big/frosty_big.jpg
14:23.04KriLL3doesn't look that nice
14:23.14fewynit'll probably look nice ingame
14:23.15KriLL3lurky and the netherwhelp looks nicer imo
14:23.17Obelixprimei'm sort of glad that they're releasing it on a wednesday night
14:23.20KriLL3all shiney?
14:23.23Obelixprimeso i only have to take 2 days off of work
14:23.30fewynXD
14:23.33Adirelle|workjust noticed chimera shots is still bugged
14:23.36ShaneSvellerlol
14:24.09Adirelle|workviper stings drains 1368 mana, chimera shots should refill of 60% of it, that is ... 2280 mana !
14:24.29Obelixprimeobviously
14:24.48Adirelle|worklook like someone inverted the ratiop
14:25.04Adirelle|work1368 is 60% of 2280...
14:25.32ObelixprimeFROSTY
14:26.12KriLL3blizz isn't big on all this "math" stuff, they're all artsy-fartsy
14:27.01ramozfuck sake
14:27.05ramozauth server down in eu?
14:28.49KriLL3works here
14:28.51Adirelle|workelite3vil: if you're not afraid of zips, I could dcc you the addon
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14:29.57elite3vilAdirelle|work: It'd apparently work better than me trying to do this on my own.. made a .toc and .lua, enabled it in my addons list.. and um. yeah, it doesn't do anything.
14:30.45Adirelle|workactually I slightly changed the code, so it may fails
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14:32.17Adirelle|workhrmf... I think DDC is blocked by the firewall
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14:32.40elite3viltry dumping it there
14:32.43elite3vil*prods your pm*
14:33.13Groktarnibbles on elite3vil's soul
14:33.41elite3vilWhat soul?
14:34.12elite3vilGuildies are so trusting.. lol
14:34.21elite3vilMe: I'm trying a new addon
14:34.22elite3vil10:29:35 [G] <70:Extension>: enjoy your keylogger
14:34.34nevcairiellol
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14:44.56KriLL3bah add a haxxed driver for your keyboard, remap all inputs on the driver end and the hardware end, so every logger gets something totally mixed around =P
14:46.06elite3villol.
14:48.03KriLL3odd that I can make mechanicals bleed, hydraulics oil?
14:48.50elite3vilYeah, I found that odd too.
14:48.53kenlyricseems like a sensible plan
14:48.56Gnarfozsounds like red alert 1, german version
14:49.08kenlyrici mean, if you prick us, will we not leak?
14:49.15Gnarfozapropos german, for all you germans in here: xD http://amish-geeks.de/blog/spruche-aus-ihk-prufungen/
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14:50.57Xinhuanhttp://www.wowhead.com/?contest=raffle-of-the-lich-king
14:50.59Xinhuanlol
14:51.06Xinhuanalready 200+ pages of replies to the contest
14:58.00Megalonhttp://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/237331/f7f3e885/standjesstoel.html
14:58.12Megalon.jp people are so... omgwtf
14:58.37Wraithanugh, downloading and installing WoW sucks.
14:58.55fewynthis is why i keep a copy of my install on a usb disk and on my backup hdd
14:58.56KriLL3why do it then?
14:59.05elite3vilWraithan: The exact reason I keep the full installer on my USB disk and backup hdd
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14:59.34KriLL3full installer?
14:59.37WraithanKriLL3: because I trashed my windows install and got linux up and running, I forgot to back up the installer so I have to download it again
14:59.40KriLL3don't you need to update it each patch?
15:00.31Gnarfozthere's fullpatches for a reason.
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15:00.54nevcairielMegalon: too lazy to have sex themself, hah
15:01.31WraithanYou download each patch already, so it is just a matter of backing up those patch files you download
15:01.55ShaneSvellerright, even if they're stored in an idiotic location under Vista
15:03.22ShaneSvellerunder XP they went right in my WoW folder before
15:03.34ShaneSvelleron Vista it was /Users/Public/somethingsomething
15:12.33KriLL3ShaneSveller: well that's blizz choice, not m$
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15:12.55ShaneSvellerKriLL3: well, yes, but that's the suggested place according to microsoft
15:13.12Gnarfozwho cares what the fuck microsoft suggests, :P
15:13.14ShaneSvellerwish windows used ~/.whatever for everything
15:13.20Gnarfozalso, patching sequentially takes AGES.
15:13.22Gnarfozfullpatch ftw.
15:13.57KriLL3I hate that m$ wants all your personal files, savegames, settings etc on the same partition as the OS, agreed
15:14.05KriLL3I use a tool that force the path to another partition
15:14.20KriLL3thus if my OS drive ever takes a dump my personal stuff is safe
15:14.38kenlyricyeah, they should have a single setting for the master location of all settings and personal files
15:14.46KriLL3everything inside your docs etc is encrypted
15:14.49Carancujust use linked folders, my "User" folder is linked to a folder on a different disk, worked better that way for me.
15:14.54KriLL3if your OS dies it's hard to recover
15:15.17thulwhat annoys me is osx and formating/partitioning
15:15.27kenlyricright, but you still ahve to set that up manually for docs, music, pics, etc
15:15.38ShaneSvellerthul:  why?
15:15.58kenlyricit would be nice if you could tell it to look your entire user directly somewhere else.
15:15.58thulShaneSveller: beacause diskutility or ipartition won't let me partition/format parts of the active disk
15:16.01thulwhich is annoying
15:16.18kenlyric*user directory
15:16.37ShaneSvellerkenlyric: i'm pretty sure there's a grouppol setting you can do to do that, since that's how you can do it within an AD domain
15:16.55kenlyricyeah, i'm sure there's a script that can do it faster
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15:17.03kenlyricI just want to be able to go to properties and change it :)
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15:17.12kenlyriclike you can with the subfolders
15:17.16ShaneSvellerthul:  really? i do it with my macbook once in a while, one harddrive, for bootcamp/ubuntu or whatever and don't really have issues except when it's super full
15:17.45KriLL3Carancu: that's what the tool I use does but one click style
15:18.05thulShaneSveller: well, I have 500 unused/unformated GBs
15:18.16kenlyricit should really be part of the install process when you setup your first user account. It should just ask where to put the user folder
15:18.18thuland diskutility wants to format the entire disk if i want to do anything, ipartition won't touch the active disk
15:18.46ShaneSvellerthul: hrm. what version of OSX do you have, and is the formatted part HFS+ journalled or something else?
15:18.47KriLL3kenlyric: well not by default, there should be some "advanced user" option or similar
15:19.07ShaneSvelleryou can tweak it with a tool like NLite when you make your install cd
15:19.16ShaneSvelleraway from Docs&Settings
15:19.17CIA-5803zeksie * r81741 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Fixed the first group member misalignment in raid list.
15:19.31kenlyricI want less complicated
15:19.34kenlyricnot more complicated
15:19.34thulShaneSveller: latest version (leopard is it? :-P , the currently formated is hfs+ journalled, running the os.
15:19.58thulI guess I should find a piece of software that can make a bootable image, put that in my ipod, boot from that, format...
15:20.14ShaneSvellerthul:  very strange.
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15:20.56Xinhuanso a submitted a ticket today
15:21.04Xinhuani vendored by cloak of IC by mistake yesterday
15:21.14Xinhuanwithin 30 seconds of "Talk to a GM", a GM replied
15:21.25Xinhuanand the cloak was restored within 15 min (after verifying i did vendor it)
15:21.29ShaneSvellernice!
15:21.38Xinhuanhow fast is that for service!
15:22.07WraithanI've noticed their response time is within 20-30 mins lately
15:22.11Wraithanit is really nice
15:22.54thulShaneSveller: I agree. But I guess I just have to live with it, 500GB is too much to let go ignored:P
15:22.54Xinhuanso the item was mailed to me
15:22.54Xinhuanwith a CoD of 4.1g
15:22.54Xinhuan;d
15:22.54Wraithanhah nice
15:24.11Wobincloak of what?
15:24.12CIA-5803perunaion * r81742 10Prat_ArmoryLink/:
15:24.12CIA-58Prat_ArmoryLink:
15:24.12CIA-58- Initial import.
15:24.57AnaralPrat_ArmoryLink? Hmm, what will that add to prat?
15:25.08Wobinoh
15:27.00Stanzillahow about armory links? :P
15:27.30Wraithannowai!
15:27.56elite3vilo.O
15:29.00AnaralLol
15:29.12FtH|Daemonagrumbles.
15:29.17FtH|Daemonaauthenticator is back in stock
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15:29.23FtH|Daemonaand they still accept CC only
15:30.24CIA-5803perunaion * r81743 10Prat_ArmoryLink/ (. Prat_ArmoryLink.lua Prat_ArmoryLink.toc):
15:30.24CIA-58Prat_ArmoryLink:
15:30.24CIA-58- Added ArmoryLink files.
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15:42.02Obelixprimearmory link?
15:43.58nevcairielcan probably spit out a clickable link for the armory
15:49.06KazieIs there a auction addon that will make it a lot easier to put something like 45 void crystals on Auction House and 200 Arcane dust for instance?
15:49.33nevcairielauctioneer?
15:49.51AnaralHeh
15:50.08AnaralAye, that would be the one. :)
15:50.37KazieI'll try that then.. thank you
15:50.49KazieIt's hell selling out from 4 full guild bank tabs :D
15:51.21sacarascAuctioneer sucks for runecloth... finds too many results and does nothing
15:51.41AnaralHow so, Sac?
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15:52.27sacarascbolt of runecloth, runecloth pants, runecloth whatever, etc
15:52.37sacarascthen it just doesn't update prices correctly
15:52.51sacarascso I just sell runecloth cheaply
15:53.12AnaralAre you using the most recent build of AucAdv?
15:54.06sacarasci went with classic or whatever... it's easier for my boredom destroyed brain
15:54.37AnaralWell we no longer are updating Classic, and come 3.0, we'll be abandoning Classic all together.
15:55.36AnaralAucAdv help docs and setup has also been improved and we plan on improving it even more in the coming weeks. I'd suggest giving AucAdv another try.
15:57.06WraithanOnce I get my system back up and running, I plan on looking into if I can make Auctioneer display a shitton LESS data
15:57.27AnaralThat's very easy to do. :)
15:57.43KazieDo you guys have a link for a simple AUC? .. instead of a pack with all kinda of useless shit addons?
15:58.47KriLL3Neptulon offline, Northrend Coldarra server goes down every few mins...
15:58.57KriLL3and PTR's copy char feature queue is full
15:58.58fewynSo
15:59.02fewynwhat do I want for lunch?
15:59.03kenlyricKazie: I dream of the day when that happens.
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15:59.12KriLL3out of 3 ways to play WoW all of them don't work atm =P
15:59.40KaziePTR works fine for me
15:59.42Kazielive fine
15:59.48Kaziei'm not complaining :)
15:59.53GnarfozFtH|Daemona: thanks for the heads-up BUT.... "There has been an error processing your request." THEIR SHOP STILL DOESN'T WORK, at all. /sadface
16:00.11FtH|Daemonahmpf next time order me one too ....
16:00.14FtH|Daemonai pay via paypal ;)
16:00.44sacarascAnaral: does advance have a nice simple post auction thing like classic?
16:00.44FtH|Daemonasuxx to be student and your bank doesnt want to give you a CC cause your part-time job doesnt count as steady income ...
16:00.53AnaralKazie, there is an AucAdvanced that just has the core mods used to make AA work, without the other addons included in the suite. It's the fourth download link on http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/#preview
16:00.56GnarfozFtH|Daemona: I can order one for you if it works with IE7 :X
16:01.20Gnarfozmaybe I should try Chrome, lol
16:01.38kenlyricwell
16:01.44kenlyricit has swatter
16:01.51kenlyric*gas_on_flames
16:01.52AnaralSac, yes. It's the Appraiser. Just set up the stat mods you want Appraiser to price items at, set the stack count, and number of stacks you want to sell, then you're all set.
16:02.14WraithanI just hate the 3 pages(possibly an exaggeration) of tooltip it gives you. AucAdv that is
16:02.17Anaralkenlyric, What's wrong with Swatter.
16:02.24sacarasci liked the nice simple one in classic ;(
16:02.26kenlyricoh nice, you include a stat module now.
16:02.30kenlyricnothingg
16:02.46kenlyricare it and bugsack still angry?
16:02.49AnaralWraithan, if you go into config, just go through all the stat mods, and uncheck the info you don't want.
16:02.59Gnarfozsigh, doesn't work with IE7 either. :X
16:03.02GnarfozWTF blizzard, wtf.
16:03.28Anaralkenlyric: I don't know, I don't use bugsack.
16:03.34kenlyricwell, there you go
16:04.02GnarfozI mean seriously. they didn't have the damn thingies in stock for TWO months
16:04.08Gnarfozand now the order process still doesn't work?
16:04.13Gnarfozwho's buying them! :D
16:04.32kenlyricStdDev is the stat module I use
16:04.59AnaralI like simple and histogram myself.
16:05.36kenlyricstddev seemed like simple but less prone to exaggeration
16:05.44kenlyricI couldn't grock what histogram was
16:06.12FtH|Daemonagonna stream some naxx over @ http://www.mogulus.com/daemona_live
16:06.17FtH|Daemonaif you are bored, that is ;)
16:06.39GnarfozFtH|Daemona: yay naxx, hope you don't lag as much as the MMOC frontpage dude did. ;D
16:06.43Zyndromeshoots boredom-rays
16:07.07kenlyricI was thinking when i tried the basic zip before something was missing
16:07.12FtH|Daemonalets see
16:07.17Anaralkenlyric Histogram takes all pricing info, over all time, not just to a set point in time.
16:07.17FtH|Daemonashould come up in the next seconds
16:07.19kenlyricthough I can't think what it would be
16:08.41kenlyricyou should put histogram in the AucAdvanced zip
16:09.21AnaralIt'll be there once all the kinks are worked out.
16:09.26Gnarfozit's in there right now?
16:09.43AnaralWait, it is in the latest build
16:09.46kenlyricGnarfoz: no, in the basic one, not the full one
16:10.20AnaralOh, I'll suggest that to RockSlice.
16:10.25kenlyrici guess from its description I've never used auc-filter
16:10.56kenlyricand I really should re-try informant :)
16:10.59Zyndromehttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/tayside_and_central/7616451.stm
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16:11.10AnaralAye, Informant has been much improved.
16:11.56FtH|DaemonaGnarfoz hows fps?
16:12.10kenlyricwell, I haven't used it since pre-tbc, when it would bug out on herbing nodes and extend upa nd down the screen.
16:12.12GnarfozFtH|Daemona: dunno, getting a test signal atm. check query btw
16:12.23kenlyricI can't even remember what mod i replaced it with
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16:12.39kenlyricit was less than satisfactory, and I stopped using it after a while.
16:12.46FtH|Daemonauhm seem i didnt went to auto-live :X
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16:12.55kenlyricoh right, I stopped crafting and sold everything in the AH
16:12.56Zyndrome"Your channel is now live"
16:13.00kenlyricso I didn't care what stuff was used for.
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16:14.41Sunwindmoo
16:15.04Sunwindanyone know a way to get advanced colour picker in eePanels?
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16:21.55copystringadvanced?
16:22.44Sunwind:E
16:22.52Sunwindsigh, any kgPanels users here?
16:24.16KazieI used to use KgPanels and eePanels..
16:24.26Kazieanyone know a Autoloot addon for mails?
16:25.33copystringPostal does that i think or Postman
16:25.33GnarfozFtH|Daemona: lol, wie ich bei dem whisper-sound (*ching*) instinktiv alt-tab gedrueckt hab um zu wow zu wechseln... dabei bin ich nicht online ;D
16:25.51FtH|Daemonaand now you failed
16:25.58FtH|Daemonawriting here instead of the query ;)
16:26.00FtH|Daemonafps is ok?
16:26.05kenlyricBetterInbox
16:26.13kenlyricthere are many
16:27.56GnarfozFtH|Daemona: yeah, fps is good
16:28.30GnarfozFtH|Daemona: can't really read shit, though. MSBT/parrot numbers is basically the only thing that's readable ^^
16:28.51FtH|Daemonathats intended ;)
16:28.55FtH|Daemonanoone needs to read the raid chat ;)
16:29.29Megalonso your raid is something for gallileo mysteries
16:29.56FtH|Daemonafor some reason my stance bar stays up
16:29.59Gnarfozno, it's just that bitrate+resolution are really bad, but you're probably upstream handicapped (less so than I am though, xD) - if you really wanted, you could probably blank out that part ^^
16:30.26GnarfozGAHHH blizz store is MEGA FAIL
16:30.45FtH|Daemonayeh, kinda 350kb
16:30.54FtH|Daemonabut getting it upgraded to 500 in the next weeks
16:31.32CIA-5803phyber * r81744 10Fizzle/Inspect.lua:
16:31.32CIA-58Fizzle:
16:31.32CIA-58- Inspect module now properly updates when the target changes their equipment.
16:33.08Gnarfozbig magenta asshole company firmly says that nothing more than 3m/192k is possible here. which is ridiculous seeing that we were once part of Hannover's dsl test pilot rollout and I've enjoyed dsl for nearly 10 years now :X and there's outdoor DSLAMs like... 300m in each direction down the damn street. and I can get neither adsl2+ (16m/1m) nor vdsl (25/5 or 50/10)? bullshit :D
16:33.46phyber<PROTECTED>
16:33.50phyberpeople will buy anything.
16:34.03Gnarfozhuh? :D
16:34.18phyberlooks like you said there is a company selling big magenta assholes ;)
16:35.26Gnarfoznope
16:35.29Gnarfozhttp://www.t-home.de/ < that.
16:38.30CIA-5803ackis * r81745 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Jewelcraft.lua:
16:38.30CIA-58AckisRecipeList:
16:38.30CIA-58- Fix ticket 56
16:38.30CIA-58- Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p)
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16:49.28xyu`is there going to be a WaRace? :P
16:50.34kenlyricthere's not even a wowace
16:50.51xyuo_O
16:50.52kenlyricwell, there is, but it's jsut a paper moon
16:51.26xyuisn't that a movie?
16:52.06Industrialxyu: pf you just want your addon fix
16:52.09Industriallearn to make them.
16:52.10Pkekyo|leveling a lock for the first time - how should I spend my talentpoints?
16:52.15xyui do. i know :(
16:52.19IndustrialPkekyo|: full affliction
16:52.35Pkekyo|Industrial: what talens?
16:52.38Pkekyo|talents*
16:53.06Industrialsec
16:53.57Pkekyo|only lvl 13 thus far
16:54.07Industrialhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IVMriRfzVtbo
16:54.30Industrialim drain soul is pwn for leveling/grinding
16:54.33Industrialimp*
16:54.36xyuyep
16:54.46Industrial15% mana return if you just put a rank 1 drain soul on something when its about to die
16:55.09kenlyricjust get a mod that will autodelete shards
16:55.20Industriallike idWarlockDeleteShards !
16:55.28Industrial*cough*
16:55.32kenlyricI guess whatever
16:55.51kenlyriceeshards even still works, though it only lets you limit it 10
16:56.01Pkekyo|drain soul = win?
16:56.10xyuimproved
16:56.15Industrialyes check Imp drain soul
16:56.34Industrialnot sure when I stopped using my voidwalker and just ued my imp
16:56.37Industrialused*
16:56.57Industrial(as a mana battery :P)
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16:58.49Pkekyo|zomg
16:58.56Pkekyo|that's...awesome
16:59.09kenlyricimp makes a fairly poor mana battery
16:59.26kenlyricsuccy is better, I seem to recall
16:59.54Pkekyo|no succubus at lvl 13
17:00.06kenlyricwell, true
17:00.24KriLL3what's the point of the succubus anyway?
17:00.37KriLL3poor dps, not enough hp/stuff to tank
17:00.43Pkekyo|seduction?
17:00.50KriLL3what's that?
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17:01.46Pkekyo|what I did to your mother!
17:02.12kenlyricit's not really poor dps
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17:02.45kenlyricit's better than anything but the felguard
17:05.14KriLL3I don't like that they can run after you even in stealth
17:08.30Dottedanyone know where the buttons module in prat-3.0 went?
17:09.47KriLL3I mead u an buttan but i eated it
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17:10.32Odlawwtb succuwhores from mgt.
17:10.38cncfanaticsanyone experience with making compiz & wine like eachother ?
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17:14.37NeoTronso we had sort of a downer week because our MT was AT&T 3 out of 4 days
17:14.43NeoTronso we spent wed/thu doing nothig
17:15.08Wraithancncfanatics: got xfce setup with xmonad as my WM, downloading wow now
17:15.11NeoTronbut last night we got twins and M'uru down which was nice - repeat muru kill came in about 1.5 hrs from trash clear, not too shabby for our 2nd
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17:15.26NeoTronthen we did illidan and got our 3rd skull since last november
17:15.28WraithanAT&T?
17:15.42NivFreakand you get about 1 month to kill kiljaden before 3.0.2
17:15.45NeoTronbut not until killing Doomwalker (guild first!) following up with Kazzak afterwards :P
17:15.59NeoTronNivFreak: yeah we are aware. 3.0.2 might be a killer but again might not
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17:16.23NeoTronWraithan: her connectivity to, ironically, World of Warcraft and the guild website (but pretty much nothing else) has been down for a week
17:16.41Wraithaninteresting.
17:16.49NivFreakI'd be most cocerned with brutalus post 3.0.2
17:16.55NivFreakconcerned
17:17.12NivFreakavoidance on tanks are down, stackings gone, I doubt classes will be bug free or properly balanced ;)
17:17.27NivFreakI haven't heard them mention any retuning yet
17:17.50smcnReAn: avoidance down, well, they are removing sunwell radiance
17:17.54smcner
17:17.59smcnthat was just supposed to be re:
17:18.01smcn:P
17:18.24NivFreaksmcn: did they announce that offically?
17:18.30smcnyes
17:18.37NivFreakok, so one solved
17:18.43NeoTronsmcn: does that really help with say M'uru?
17:18.45NivFreakare they nerfing brutalus too?
17:18.56smcni have no clue, i'm not in sunwell :P
17:19.02NeoTronNivFreak: they are also removing the high armor on druids
17:19.08NivFreakNeoTron: I'm aware
17:19.09smcni haven't heard anything about actually nerfing bosses aside from sunwell radiance
17:19.17NeoTronthey really should
17:19.19NivFreaksmcn: link?
17:19.21NeoTronsignificantly
17:19.24Industrialkenlyric> succy is better, I seem to recall really? doesnt imp have more mana cause hes a mage pet? and hes out fo combat anyway when I am not. hm guess succy can do that too?
17:19.32NivFreaksunwell matters not to me at this point
17:19.34NeoTronjust so people can experience it before it's too late (if it isn't already)
17:19.35smcnNivFreak: it was like a week ago, i'd have to scour bluetracker :P
17:19.42kenlyricsuccy can still do damage and give you mana too
17:19.50smcni think the thread was specifically about sunwell radiance though
17:19.54NeoTronIndustrial: with destro the imp should be fine on mana, is the theory
17:19.58kenlyricshe won't go oom in 3 seconds liek the imp
17:20.02NivFreakbeta pretty much proved to me that it's worthless from gear perspective, and I think it would be too much of a strain on my guild to even try at this point
17:20.10Industrialerm, im talking about affliction
17:20.11NeoTronNivFreak: the sunwell radiance post is on the beta raids/dungeon forum
17:20.16kenlyricand you can turn off her mana ability.
17:20.29kenlyricand she'll still whip them for at least a little extra dps
17:20.32NeoTronfor affliction imp is pretty crap
17:20.41NeoTronif you want it to dps
17:20.42smcnHas sunwell radiance been removed? is the title of the thread
17:20.46Industrialomg no
17:20.48Industrialdark pact
17:20.51Industrialit gives me mana
17:20.57Industrialnoone can see it and it stays out of combat
17:21.02Industrialso full regen of mana for it
17:21.05Industrialwhile I spend the mana
17:21.20WraithanIndustrial: less spam, more condensed thoughts.
17:21.27Industrialbreathes
17:21.30kenlyricnobody can see the succy, either.
17:21.39Industrialbut the imp has more mana
17:21.59Industrialif i show them my pet its dead anyway :P
17:22.39cncfanaticsWraithan: nice stuff
17:22.45cncfanaticswine & WoW work perfectly :)
17:23.02sacarascnot perfectly, but well enough
17:23.05Industrialon osx i get random texture glitches :<
17:23.17Industrialbut apparently thats the driver and has been so for everyone forever...
17:23.20cncfanatics0 issues with both wine & eve online here
17:23.32cncfanaticswish WAR worked yet, I wanne try it out
17:23.36KriLL3cncfanatics: old or new gfx?
17:23.51cncfanaticsKriLL3: if you mean eve online, new
17:23.56cncfanaticswith shadows(!) and bloom active
17:24.04KriLL3really? doesn't that need a lot of grunt?
17:24.27cncfanaticslot of what ? :o
17:24.48smcnNivFreak: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9679403166&pageNo=1&sid=2000#4 if you still wanted to see the actual blue text ;)
17:25.03KriLL3brawn, muscle, hardware
17:25.29cncfanaticsnot rly
17:25.33smcnalso wrt tanking, you won't have crushing blows to worry about
17:25.33cncfanaticsworks perfectly on my laptop
17:25.39cncfanaticsthe laptop is only 3 weeks old though :p
17:26.01KriLL3what GPU?
17:26.42NeoTronmy main tank, the druid, who loves druid and is leveling a 2nd druid to use as a gatherer
17:26.50Industrial...
17:26.57NeoTronis seriously considering changing tanking class to paladin, warrior or DK come wotlk
17:27.03smcnlol
17:27.12Industrialwhy not a hunter for gathering?
17:27.19KriLL3well I'm miner + engineer, that's 2 gathering professions of 2 =P
17:27.23smcnferal druids are the mages of wotlk imo, as in whiny :P
17:27.38Industrialim leveling one!
17:27.41KriLL3smcn: we got cause
17:27.43cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
17:27.51KriLL3cncfanatics: k
17:28.01Industrialthats not a laptop! thats a monster!
17:28.06Industriala lap-burn.
17:28.11Wraithancncfanatics: I was thinking about getting the fullsize of that one or the 9400, for a TV out card
17:28.13KriLL3smcn: everyone got something new and exciting in LK, we got some re-hashed & watered down rogue/warrior stuff
17:28.17CIA-5803ackis * r81747 10WelfareEpics/ (. externals.txt):
17:28.17CIA-58WelfareEpics:
17:28.17CIA-58- Externals update
17:28.17CIA-58- Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p)
17:28.17CIA-5803ackis * r81746 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Vendor.lua:
17:28.18CIA-58AckisRecipeList:
17:28.20CIA-58- Fix ticket 54
17:28.22CIA-58- Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p)
17:28.26NeoTronbecause druids are being so ... yeah
17:28.34smcnwell, i thought that was the definition of feral but okay
17:28.44Industrialrofl
17:28.46NeoTronIndustrial: instant flying form + herbing as a bird is pretty leet
17:28.47KriLL3well we're supposed to have something unique...
17:28.51cncfanaticsWraithan: I got a tv out
17:28.52IndustrialNeoTron: true
17:28.59cncfanaticsforgot the name of the port though
17:29.01smcni have 2 druids myself, resto will be my first 80 and feral will be my 2nd
17:29.10Wraithancncfanatics: so do I, my 8800GTS has one too
17:29.21Wraithancncfanatics: S-Video?
17:29.26cncfanaticsyep
17:29.28cncfanaticsI rarely use it though
17:29.38AckisWorkanyone know the author of combat alert?
17:29.41NeoTronbasically they are taking away health and mitigation without really giving anything back - not really too disimilar from other classes though
17:29.57NeoTrondestro locks right now are rather meh, and demo locks aren't stunning (affliction is nice however)
17:29.59Wraithancncfanatics: the issue though with my setup, is I run dual head + I want a TV out, which you can't do on one card, at least not most cards
17:30.23cncfanaticsheh , why you need both ?
17:30.46Wraithanbecause I run dual head, plus stream media onto my TV...
17:31.31Wraithanon that compter... have another dual head computer next it also, using syngergy to connect the 2
17:31.31cncfanaticsheh, I use my old box to stream media to my tv :) its been converted into a server
17:31.32Tornhoofis it possible to do delayed visibility acions with the new state headers?, like the old delaytimemap-anchor-leave
17:32.20Wraithancncfanatics: none of my other boxes have TV out, so in anycase I need to buy hardware
17:33.50cncfanaticsthats anoying ofc heh
17:34.02NeoTronspeaking of LK though, I played my pally (as ret spec with crap gear) and ... it sort of plays like a DK now
17:34.08NeoTrondifferent of course but similar "feel"
17:35.56cncfanaticsmeh, I'm prolly quiting WoW except for coding
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17:37.06NeoTronamusing comment "Feral mana seems to have taken a big hit. We have some thoughts on how to adjust it. " - no shit sherlock! you're putting druids in rogue itemized gear exclusively!
17:37.38KriLL3I'm shocked, SHOCKED I say.
17:37.59KriLL3removing all int from our gear hurts our mana pool? I'd never have guessed
17:38.03cncfanaticswhy would ferals need mana now ?
17:38.10cncfanaticsno need to powershift anymore
17:38.18KriLL3you are kidding right?
17:38.27NeoTroncncfanatics: there are plenty of reasons to shift
17:38.34cncfanaticsno, I'm asking :p PvE-wise
17:38.36KriLL3a feral sans mana is a pointless object
17:38.48NeoTronin pvp you might want to root or cyclone or a quick regrowth. just one example
17:38.50cncfanaticsthats PvP
17:38.55KriLL3cncfanatics: well even in PvE you want to shift some and perhaps offheal
17:38.56NeoTronpve raid wise likely no reason
17:39.02cncfanaticsI know about that ofc :p
17:39.06NeoTronbut say shoft and innervate or battlerest
17:39.13cncfanaticswhy not just add some int on pvp feral sets ?
17:39.24NeoTrongood question
17:39.27KriLL3because there will be no feral set
17:39.35NeoTronI suspect they will add some ap=>int conversion thing
17:39.40KriLL3we'll use the same items as rogues
17:40.03Stanzilla!points 1924
17:40.04XinhuanYou cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap).
17:40.15Stanzilla!rating 1924
17:40.16Xinhuan1924 rating gives 949(5s), 835(3s) and 721(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
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17:41.49KriLL3well except for our weapon
17:41.56KriLL3I guess you could put a billion int on it
17:43.13NeoTronwhich would make it potentially completely OP for resto / balance use due to having a billion int :P
17:43.44KriLL3they're both super OP anyway, why not make them silly OP?
17:43.52Carancunoone said you can't use items with int on them, they are there, just not in the form you obviously want them too
17:44.14KriLL3Carancu: ah yes, mixing pvp/pve items meant for rogues with caster gear... that's brilliant
17:44.36Carancutrading a agi/sta item for a int/sta item is just as using two agi/int/sta items.
17:44.59KriLL3not really, they don't have set bonuses, not all other stats we need, like hit, ap etc
17:45.38Carancuno, but if you are going to spend itembudget on those stats other stats take a hit.
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17:46.49Carancusaying that we should have int on all our feralpices is just saying that you want them to have less other stats.
17:47.10KriLL3I'd like to have all of it, and I can't see why you'd be opposed to that
17:47.58KriLL3or some ap/agi -> int/mana thing
17:48.49Carancutake it as an example then, you have 40 points you can spend on int/agi/str/spi, now you want to use all those for agi/str and then you want more for int? The manaissue for ferals has to be solved by other means than pure stats in my opinion.
17:49.18digmousethe night ends with a 6% Bloodboil wipe
17:50.17CarancuGurthog is a pain sometimes.
17:50.28KriLL3Carancu: ferals need just about every stat in the game, sure not as much spirit and str perhaps but we still need a bit of either, just wish blizzard realized that and stopped thinking of us as rogues
17:51.31CarancuAs I said, spending stats to solve the manaissue is just going to lower the performance of the spec overall. It has to be solved in other ways.
17:52.26KriLL3as long as it's solved, blizz hasn't realized it yet it seems
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18:07.58GnarfozFunkeh`: my "fix" doesn't work on live, just testing now.
18:08.11Gnarfozdoesn't error, but bossblock simply doesn't do anything ^^
18:08.25Funkeh`heh
18:08.51Funkeh`keep it just now and remember to patch it when 3.0.2 goes
18:08.57Funkeh`ill forget
18:09.05NivFreakman
18:09.25NivFreaklibhealcomm must need a few fixes for wrath
18:09.41NivFreakI tried it last night and any canceled heals would stay on my frames as incoming
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18:19.16Lukianhegarol or daviesh ever in here?
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18:21.31digmouseLukian: go atlas forum or their own IRC, I dont remember they appeared here once
18:22.04Lukiancheers
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18:25.50Tornhoofanyone worked with the new securehandlers for buttons in here?
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18:32.03Lukiandigmouse, hmm I couldn't find their IRC info :(
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18:50.16FtH|Daemonapatchwerk inc @ http://www.mogulus.com/daemona_live
18:53.09nevcairielisnt patchwerk a rather boring fight to watch..
18:53.19CIA-5803saroz * r81748 10BadgeWatch/Core.lua:
18:53.19CIA-58BadgeWatch:
18:53.19CIA-58- Add Emblem of Valor and Emblem of Heroism
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18:53.54digmouseLukian: they dont have it on their forum>
18:54.03digmouses/>/?/
18:55.08StanzillaFtH|Daemona: are you raiding with nethersturm legion again or fth only?
18:59.26Xinhuanso
18:59.33Xinhuan/dump GetItemCooldown(27388) <-- mr pinchy
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18:59.40Xinhuangave me return value of
18:59.42FtH|Daemonafth only
18:59.42sacarascFtH|Daemona: is that an addon, or can you see the mobs health in the beta?
18:59.50Xinhuan4198284.145, 172800, 1
18:59.51FtH|Daemonayou can see it on beta
19:00.30StanzillaFtH|Daemona: FROGGER FAIL :D
19:00.37FtH|Daemonadamn look where i am lying
19:01.17Xinhuanso it says i have 51 days on cooldown on that thing
19:01.33CIA-5803nevcairiel * r81749 10Mapster/Mapster.toc: Mapster: add email to .toc for wowace transition matching
19:02.42sacarascFtH|Daemona: was that a wartorn plate scrap there? :o
19:03.03XinhuanFtH|Daemona: are the lvl 60 versions of the scraps reusable?
19:03.09FtH|Daemonano
19:03.16FtH|Daemonathey just didnt clean the loot table it seems
19:03.24Xinhuani've got a few hundred scraps from lvl 60 naxx
19:03.30Xinhuanwhat about the frozen runes?
19:03.35Xinhuangot nearly a thousand of those
19:04.01nevcairielall void and unusable =p
19:04.41sacarascdamn
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19:23.22ulicwhat's the word on the CF migration anyways, I haven't seen/heard much lately.
19:23.22ckknighthey ulic
19:23.25ckknightguess what I did
19:23.26ckknighthttp://beta.wowace.com/projects/
19:24.06ulicwell it's not in the topic, how am I supposed to know?  :)  Just as I guess.
19:24.16ckknightcause I did it 5 minutes ago
19:24.18ckknight:-P
19:24.47ulicoh, hehe
19:24.57ulicwell cool then
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19:25.43ulicshould we report any issues we see with the site, off the top I noticed there is a large blank space when I type text into the search box in FF3.
19:26.00ckknightyea...
19:27.43Ominous_ckknight: are we supposed to be able to login to beta.wowace.com?
19:28.58ulicis that latin? :) http://beta.wowace.com/profiles/wowaceSVN/
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19:29.49Stanzillayes
19:29.57Stanzillapseudo latin
19:30.15Xinhuanckknight, can you make a post or sticky or something on what authors need to do for a smooth transition?
19:30.18ulicdoes is say "All your base are belong to us"?
19:30.45kenlyricand make it the otpic instead of the years old "wowacefuture plans"
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19:31.54Megalonlorem ipsum in latin?
19:32.14ckknightXinhuan: yea, a big post will be made
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19:32.51Xinhuanwill any of the stuff be reintroactively updated on that beta site
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19:33.39ulicbtw, I've always appreciated that the logo is 3 aces, rather than card A, C, E, always thought that was lame since there are no cards with C or E :)
19:34.22ulicanyways, past lunch time, back later, lots of excitment with release dates and wowace/cf betas
19:35.00ckknightXinhuan: what do you mean?
19:35.20Xinhuanlike if i were to change my X-email in the toc, would it auto update on that beta site?
19:35.32ckknightwhat you see on the beta site will be wiped
19:35.42ckknightwhen we do the real import, it'll update properly
19:35.52Xinhuanah
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19:35.59Xinhuando you have a date estimate?
19:36.04kenlyricoh
19:36.13kenlyricknowing what to add to the toc would be helpful.
19:36.49ckknightXinhuan: a week?
19:36.52nevcairielX-Email with the mail of your curse account
19:36.56Xinhuanok
19:36.58ckknightkenlyric: X-Email or X-eMail
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19:37.13ckknighteither update that now (easier for everyone) or wait until after and get a moderator to do it
19:37.27ckknightmoderators can transfer ownership that way
19:37.40ckknightbut try not to annoy the moderators
19:37.43nevcairielI refuse to spend my whole day fixing addons!
19:37.59Ellipsissighs
19:38.05Ellipsisellipsis is still taken on curse
19:38.10Ellipsisshould I just come up with another name? :/
19:38.18MegalonElllipsis
19:38.29Megalonor perhaps ElIipsis
19:38.38Megalon;p
19:38.53smcnellipses, plural = more good
19:38.58Ellipsis>_>
19:39.03ckknightEllipsis: email Kaelten
19:39.06nevcairielbtw ckk you need some EU mods for CF .. always only me around and i have to answer questsions!
19:39.08AeyanThere's an addon on wowinterface called Ellipsis now, heh
19:39.17Ellipsisckknight: what's his email address?
19:39.22ckknightkaelten@gmail.com
19:39.29EllipsisAeyan: yeah I know, dotimer clone :P
19:42.09Xinhuanso ckknight
19:42.16kenlyriccf profile doesn't seem to have an email attached to it
19:42.18Xinhuanif i don't use a throw-away-email like hotmail or gmail
19:42.26Xinhuanwouldn't the toc file need to have my real email in it?
19:42.32ckknightyep
19:42.37vithos~seen fleetwood
19:42.45purlvithos: i haven't seen 'fleetwood'
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19:42.47ckknightwhatever your curse email is set to
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19:42.48Xinhuanwhich is subsceptible to spam and stuff?
19:42.55ckknighteither that or change it after the fact
19:43.01ckknightwe can't go by username, it's not deterministic
19:43.21Xinhuanhmm i have mixed feelings about this
19:43.32ckknightnothing's perfect
19:43.41AckisWorkckknight: did you change yours? I recall you used to do it ckknight at gmail dot com or something like that?
19:43.47ckknightyea
19:43.56ckknightI didn't change it
19:43.58ckknightAckisWork: that works
19:44.08ckknightif you have " AT " or " DOT ", it'll change it for you
19:44.12AckisWorkhmm ok, it must just be because my projects are fucked then?
19:44.17ckknightor stuff like [at] etc.
19:44.20Xinhuan"ckknight at gmail dot com" is recognized properly?
19:44.24ckknightyea, Xinhuan
19:44.38Xinhuanaha so one line of defense is better than none
19:44.42AckisWork## X-email: ackis AT shaw DOT ca
19:44.54nevcairieljust use a gmail account, i get lots of spam, none reaches me =P
19:45.11ckknightAckisWork: we checked X-Email and X-eMail
19:45.12ckknightI added X-email now
19:45.17Xinhuanwell that's not very fair, considering some users would actually DO email you though
19:45.31ckknightsome users email me
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19:46.15nevcairielXinhuan: not that i dont use that account, but gmails filters are just awesome
19:46.22kenlyricI must be dense
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19:46.31kenlyricer than normal
19:46.49Xinhuanthat's really hard to say, nevcairiel, its "too awesome" sometimes
19:46.52Xinhuanand filters out beta keys!
19:46.54kenlyricone would expect email to be located in the profile?
19:46.59nevcairielXinhuan: mine didnt :D
19:47.03NeoTronckknight: why not just... x-email (case insensitive)?
19:47.05Xinhuani didnt' mean just wow ones
19:47.09AckisWorkckknight: might want to add ## eMail as well (http://www.wowwiki.com/TOC_format#Example_.toc_file ) and X-email was from that same page
19:47.11Xinhuanwow beta keys that is
19:47.20ckknightNeoTron: the dictionary we use is case-sensitive
19:47.25nevcairielI dunno, i check my spam folder weekly or so
19:47.29nevcairieland scim through it
19:47.29Xinhuanlike i received a Fifa2 beta key today, was filtered out
19:47.32ckknightsighs
19:47.34ckknightgonna tweak
19:47.39NeoTronlowercase stuff before inserting and looking up?
19:47.44nevcairielckknight: tolower the string before checking against the dict? =P
19:47.45AckisWork~comfort ckknight
19:47.45purlThere, there, ckknight.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
19:47.54ckknightnevcairiel: hey, guess what I'm doing
19:48.03ckknightI already said I was gonna tweak it
19:48.04KriLL3fun to pvp with 3-5 sec delays vs casters
19:48.18KriLL3they just need to run around and spam a button, you'll never hit em
19:48.49KriLL3+ druid range bug, had to be 2-3 cat lenghts in front of the damn mage to him him
19:49.08ArcharodimIs it possible for two different pets from two different players on the same server to have the same name?
19:49.14Xinhuanyes
19:49.16Xinhuanvery possible
19:49.18kenlyricmaybe the curse email address is stored in "http://my.curse.com/account/profile/emails/"
19:49.22kenlyricwhich is brokened
19:49.38NeoTronArcharodim: yes. me and another log had the same name on our succubi
19:49.40ckknightalright, we're good
19:50.10NeoTronckknight: so I assume then that I can sign up for a curse account using any login name... since neotron is used. Still plan to do a purge?
19:50.14EllipsisArcharodim: yes, very possible
19:50.17Archarodimok thank you Xinhuan and NeoTron
19:50.22ckknightNeoTron: talk to Kaelten about that
19:50.23Ellipsisjust think how many hunters are running around with "Cat"
19:50.34Archarodimand Ellipsis ;)
19:50.58NeoTronEllipsis: indeed. On one of my hunters, Cat was quite a sight. Nice boar
19:51.00ArcharodimDecursive was assuming the contrary, that may explains some strange bug reports I received...
19:51.12AckisWorkckknight: another field you might want to consider checking if there's no matches would be something like X-RelSite-Curse, however I'm not sure how used that field is
19:51.13Ellipsislol NeoTron
19:51.38ckknightAckisWork: for the author name?
19:52.22AckisWorkckknight: no, it would give you the curse release ID which you could then link that project to the one on CF
19:52.35AckisWorkwhich is probably going above and beyond the parser
19:52.52ckknightyea, we're not going to merge automatically, you can do that the way you want on your own time.
19:53.07AckisWorkk
19:54.18vithoshmm.. any objections to fixing LittleTrouble's X-Embeds to reflect the addon switching from SharedMediaLib to LibSharedMedia-2.0 6 months ago?
19:54.37Xinhuannever heard of the addon ;p
19:55.45vithosit's an autoshot timer, still works when it has the correct lib installed
19:55.47AeyanIt's an autoshot timer, if I remember correctly
19:55.53NeoTronso
19:55.55NeoTronwhy bother?
19:56.02NeoTronsome 3.0 in a month it won't be needed
19:56.26vithoswell, i'm using it until then
19:56.54vithosi just want to stop WAU from installing SharedMediaLib when nothing actually needs it
19:58.19vithosbesides, you still might want to use feign death or aimed shot immediately after an autoshot goes off, or time your movements to not interrupt it
19:59.00NeoTronwell
19:59.01AckisWorkyou're doing it, it's your time, feel free to update the library stuff IMO
19:59.03NeoTronfixing it doesn't hurt
19:59.05NivFreakI canceled my warhammer pre-order
19:59.07NeoTronbut I still don't think it'll be needed
19:59.11NivFreakblizzard has succeeded
19:59.26NeoTronNivFreak: because WAR was bad, or because LK is the bomb?
19:59.41NivFreaksome of both
19:59.41ckknighthow is WAR bad?
19:59.52NivFreakI had so many issues with my pre-order for war
19:59.57ckknightah
20:00.04NivFreakand yes, LK is 2 months away
20:00.06NivFreakfor good or bad
20:00.15NivFreakso I don't have time to invest in another MMO
20:00.23NivFreakI'm sure this is what blizzard intended
20:00.32NivFreakbut we're probably all going to pay for it with wrath hits
20:00.58NivFreakI'm a bit curious to see what amazon will do since I had redeemed my pre-order codes
20:01.03NivFreakfor warhammer
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20:03.01NivFreaksooo
20:03.05NivFreakwotlk pre-order
20:03.07NivFreakwho should I trust
20:03.17NivFreakI could go do the midnight line at gamestop in alderwood
20:03.20NeoTronI wonder if preorder will even be needed
20:03.27NivFreakI want CE boxes
20:03.31NeoTron... are you saying I might actually run into you in RL?
20:03.37NivFreakNeoTron: most likely if you want to
20:03.42NeoTronif I decided to do tht
20:03.48NivFreakyea, I'm still on the fence
20:03.54NivFreakI did the line at northgate for TBC
20:03.56NivFreakwasn't bad
20:04.01NeoTronI didn't for BC at all
20:04.13NeoTronjust went the next day to a local store and picked it up without preorder
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20:09.04NivFreakthey had a nice launch event for TBC though
20:09.17NivFreakthe massive world pvp battle we had at the portal was great
20:09.27NivFreakand if you waited much past 2am to get your copy
20:09.29NivFreakyou missed it
20:10.03Xinhuancan't be really any different from aq opening, or tarrenmill-vs-southshore
20:10.10NeoTronI got the tabard
20:10.11NivFreakno, but all were fun
20:10.12NivFreak:P
20:10.21NeoTronand I don't like "world pvp" so.. I wni? :P
20:10.25AeyanYou got the /flex tabard
20:10.29NivFreakNeoTron: to each his own :)
20:10.29AeyanI wanted that, hehe
20:10.33NivFreakI play on a pvp server for a reason
20:13.04NeoTronAeyan: yeah I had it heh
20:13.11NeoTronand I don't.. for the same reason
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20:15.47NivFreakthat said, I'll probably level in instances
20:15.47CIA-5803vithos * r81752 10LittleTrouble/LittleTrouble.toc: LittleTrouble: put LibSharedMedia-2.0 in X-Embeds instead of SharedMediaLib
20:16.06NivFreakmainly just because of the mob/quest competition
20:16.09NeoTronmight be a wise initial choice
20:16.24NivFreakI've done the starting areas on beta a few times now
20:16.34NivFreakand each time has actually be worse and worse because of the number of people
20:16.52NeoTronwell the most recent influx has caused more issues
20:17.02NivFreakyep
20:17.09NivFreakstability and lag have been aweful
20:17.14NeoTronI love how the ghouls in the area just N of valiance keep crawl out of the ground only to vanish
20:17.17NivFreakI've been just going from instance to instance
20:17.35NivFreakoh man, I finally decided to do the howling fjord stuff (or rather try)
20:17.42NivFreakthe carrion birds are insane with 10 seconds lag
20:17.44NivFreakand 100 people
20:18.10DashkalAnybody know what server the DK starting area lives on?  I'm kind of surprised that the instances haven't been chain dying with all the DKs about.
20:18.26NeoTronI tried to do azjol'nerub (or rather the other instance there but was going to respec).. and got stuck in space
20:18.33NivFreakDashkal: it seems to only be northrend that crashes
20:18.35NeoTronDashkal: instances seem to not die
20:18.35nevcairielDashkal: probably the instance servers
20:18.41NeoTronfor the most part
20:18.51nevcairielduring the weekend even instances died
20:18.51DashkalThat makes me wonder if the DK starting area is actually on northrend.
20:19.04kenlyricI think it's in EPL
20:19.17NivFreaknevcairiel: only briefly I think
20:19.20kenlyricit's... out of phase
20:19.24nevcairielNivFreak: not exactly
20:19.30nevcairielwe couldnt play whole day on the EU realm
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20:19.32NivFreakan hour or two?
20:19.33NivFreakoh
20:19.34NivFreakeu realm
20:19.40DashkalCould be EK as well.  I know that if I have to grind 57-58 it'll prolly be in winterspring.  Kalimdor will be a ghost town
20:20.01NeoTronDashkal: except you don't really
20:20.09NeoTronI was 58 by the time I got out and went straight to outlands
20:20.20NeoTronmind you I did some extra grinding but not much
20:20.20DashkalWell, it's not in EK proper.  It has a loading screen when you transition from the starting area into the real world
20:20.32ckknightDashkal: Scarlet Enclave isn't on a continent, it's like a battleground or an instance
20:20.42DashkalNeoTron: When I did it (pre the quest to talk to the faction leader) I was 57 and 19 bubbles
20:20.53NivFreakI did the last half of 57 in blasted lands
20:20.58NivFreakjust killing mobs
20:21.06Dashkalckknight: I know.  What I'm trying to figure out is which of the three (four?) continent servers its on.
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20:21.24Xinhuanprobably none
20:21.28Xinhuanits on its own instance server
20:21.33DashkalI expected it was tied to the instances
20:21.38Xinhuanlike dire maul
20:21.52DashkalXinhuan: that could make sense too, but I thought the instances were tied together.
20:22.26DashkalJust based on the one crashes they all crash bit.  (Maelstrom's instances servers died en-masse shortly after 2.0)
20:23.05AeyanYou on Maelstrom too?
20:23.07Aeyan=P
20:23.21NivFreakgamestop wants $43 for overnight shipping
20:23.23NivFreakfor two CE copies of wrath
20:23.24NivFreakwt
20:23.24NivFreakf
20:23.26DashkalI even made a note to look you up, Aeyan :p  But I've been in the beta.  Almost never on live.
20:23.42AeyanAh, if we talked about it before I'd forgotten
20:24.01DashkalI'll be Dashkal come WotLK live.  Savrine atm
20:24.18AeyanOh, right, now I remember
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20:34.36Ellipsisbah, I don't get it
20:34.49Ellipsisdemon form gives you a possess bar *and* keeps your pet bar?
20:35.07NivFreakpossess bar replaces your normal action bar right?
20:35.28Ellipsisyeah
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20:35.39Ellipsisthis is annoying because I was going to use my pet bar for a possess bar
20:35.45sbhmm
20:35.46Ellipsisbut this one special case requires I have both :/
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20:35.47sbwhats wrong with shaman spelldamage display? :P
20:36.04Polarina1Wrath of the Lich King release date announced!
20:36.07Ellipsissb: you broke it?
20:37.53stew_aok i have a lua file with a (rather complex) table (of unknown name) and 0 or more functions in, and i need to turn the table into a php array. whats the best way of going about doing that?
20:37.56sbEllipsis: http://img49.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot091508222733jf9.jpg :p
20:37.58NivFreakPolarina1: you caught up eh?
20:38.10Polarina1NivFreak: Yes.
20:38.23NivFreaksb: lol
20:38.27NivFreaknice bug
20:38.37Ellipsissb: stop hacking, geez
20:38.44sbits not me!
20:38.52Ellipsisthat's what they all say
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20:40.46Adirelleis there a way to extract the torrent from the background downloader ? (wowtorrentex failed)
20:44.51dodgaWTF benevolent pinchy
20:44.53dodgagief my pet!
20:45.01Ellipsis~comfort dodga
20:45.01purlThere, there, dodga.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
20:45.55dodga:(
20:45.58dodgaI iz sad panda
20:46.56dodga~lick purl
20:46.57purlACTION licks purl *SHLUUURRRRPPP*
20:48.41ArrowmasterAdirelle: torrent should be in the cache folder automaticly
20:48.56dodgaEllipsis! Put on your apron and smack a Mr Pinchy out of.. well, Mr Pinchy :P
20:49.29Thraedodga: That sounds dirty.
20:49.41dodgaIt better be :>
20:49.47Ellipsisjust dirty enough to get me interested :P
20:50.09dodgaSo you're up for it?
20:50.49EllipsisI'm up for anything
20:50.51Ellipsis;)
20:50.54dodgaUuuh.
20:51.14dodgaIntriguing
20:51.40dodgaI better put on my robe and wizard hat
20:53.20Fisker-slaps Ellipsis around a bit with a large trout
20:53.36Ellipsisoohhhh
20:53.39NivFreakwow
20:53.55NivFreakso lesser heal and heal will be even more useless in wrath
20:53.56NivFreakcrazy
20:55.00dodgaOn Priest?
20:56.13NivFreakyea
20:56.51dodgaYea, spec Shadow, melt faces
20:57.01sbshadow priests crying here...
20:57.15dodgameh whatev
20:57.22dodgaI'll just DPS and if they want mana I'll say
20:57.26sbless spellpower than liverealm, no dps, blahblah :p
20:57.26dodga"Spec ret nup!"
20:57.55Fisker-slaps Ellipsis around a bit with a large trout
20:57.59Fisker-i slap
20:58.25EllipsisI raep
20:58.39NivFreakI'm still trying to decide what spec I'll level my priest as
20:58.42NivFreakand my warrior tbh
20:59.02Fisker-do it Ellipsis
20:59.03Ellipsisthere's a choice for priest leveling specs?
20:59.46KriLL3well there is healing, pvp healing and dmg, *ponders'
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21:01.46NivFreakEllipsis: not all leveling is done solo :)
21:01.53NivFreakand disc has some appeal
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21:02.04NivFreakI leveled my priest in TBC as holy
21:02.05NivFreak:)
21:02.09NivFreakand my warrior as prot
21:02.15KriLL3ouch
21:02.22NivFreakthe warrior was more painful
21:02.23NivFreakhehe
21:02.45KriLL3why not respec? even in prot gear you'll do more dmg if you got arms/fury talents
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21:03.33JY`is that me or coldarra is not lagging
21:03.49EllipsisNivFreak: well, true...I leveled a priest holy and a druid resto in tbc...and then my lock destro
21:03.54Ellipsisgosh I'm weird
21:03.58KriLL3well my live server just went cold turkey, perhaps someone shifted some resources
21:05.33KriLL3a gnome somewhere deep in the bowls of the blizzard mega-machine re-routed power, and reversed the shield polarity for good measure
21:05.53Fisker-raeps Ellipsis
21:06.50Chompersnow now fisker
21:06.52Ellipsisoh Fisker-, moar
21:06.54Chompersless of that
21:07.01Fisker-no u Chompers
21:07.13Chompersbut
21:07.16Fisker-i'm SRS
21:07.21Chompersim not the person raping others
21:07.35Fisker-no u
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21:08.53NivFreakKriLL3: because I was running enough instances that it wasn't worth it
21:09.29NivFreakand 50G respecs seemed like a lot more at 60 ;)
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21:16.08AbsoRayneIm having an issue with CowTip and SLDT. I have my CowTip set to 80% size, but whenever I hover over SLDT to get the Tooltips on the information I have, the Tooltips size gets blown up to about 120%, but the slider in the CowTip menu will still say 80%.
21:16.25Wraithanhttp://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/sillies.php
21:19.01Xinhuandoes SLDT use its own tooltips?
21:19.50AbsoRayneI would assume so, when I mouse over they appear there, and not at CowTips anchor point.
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21:20.11Xinhuanthen you will need to look at SLDT options
21:20.14AbsoRayneAnd theres no way to edit the ones from SLDT
21:20.23AbsoRayneNot that I can find at least
21:20.31Xinhuantry asking SLDT author
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21:27.12ckknighthttp://beta.wowace.com/announcements/beta-phase-commencing/
21:27.55Fisker-why so beta?
21:28.15NivFreakis the mac curse client beta out yet? :)
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21:28.54ckknightNivFreak: not yet, you'll have to talk to Kolie, but he's setting up servers for the new curse.com. I know he's working on it, though (for srs)
21:29.12NivFreakif this goes live without it
21:29.16NivFreakI'll just write an svn client
21:29.18NivFreaker
21:29.19NivFreakscript
21:29.22Xinhuanckknight, if i register an account on http://beta.wowace.com/home/create/?next=/home/login/
21:29.26NivFreakand you'll never get my advertising :)
21:29.33Xinhuanwill it carry over to the actual thing
21:29.37ckknightyes, Xinhuan
21:29.50Fisker-you'll get my money if you don't make a mac client
21:29.50NivFreakadvertising dollars even
21:29.51NivFreakwhatever
21:32.43Xinhuanhmm
21:33.22Xinhuanckknight, are any of the project links on the projects page supposed to work? ;p
21:33.25Tullerhrm, you simultaneously broke curseforge and brought out the wowace beta :P
21:34.09Xinhuanall of them just give an error atm
21:34.26ckknightsorry about that
21:34.38NivFreaknevcairiel: is there a reason bigwigs doesn't flash and shake for flamestrikes on council?
21:34.42Xinhuanok seems fixed now
21:34.46NivFreaknevcairiel: is it an issue of no debuff to watch?
21:35.18nevcairielNivFreak: what do i know, do i look like a bigwigs dev =P
21:35.38NivFreaker
21:35.41nevcairielI never activated flash and shake anyway, so i wouldnt know
21:35.44NivFreakhaha
21:35.46NivFreaksorry
21:36.18NivFreakwas Funkeh` bigwigs?
21:36.23NivFreakI've forgotten apparently
21:36.26XinhuanNivFreak, the main reason would be that flash and shake.. will flash and not shake if you have nameplates on ;p
21:36.42NivFreakXinhuan: lol, I didn't know that, but even flashing would be great
21:36.50Chompersour new hunter just replaced his green legs 'of the bandit' with some shiny new t6
21:36.59Chompershow stupid is that
21:37.03NivFreakflamestrike is actually fairly easy to miss, and some of our people apparently queue off of SCT dmg or something retarded
21:37.09NivFreakChompers: hahaha
21:37.11Ellipsisheh, I did that once in AQ
21:37.20Ellipsisreplaced green "of the eagle" pants with an epic
21:38.30leech2knext he will legendary bow, right?
21:39.45leech2kI should really turn timestamps on I guess.
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21:54.31Kaeltenhttp://beta.wowace.com/announcements/beta-phase-commencing/
21:55.04Fisker-why so old news? >:3
21:55.07CIA-5803aiiane * r81754 10AiiDLink/ (. AiiDLink.toc): AiiDLink: Added X-Email (silly wowace transition :).
21:55.41Kaeltenbah
21:55.42Ellipsiswhy so Fisker-, Fisker-?
21:55.47Kaelten~lart Fisker-
21:55.47purllowers Fisker-'s priority
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21:56.16*** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> WoWAce Future Plans! http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14316.0 | http://beta.wowace.com/announcements/beta-phase-commencing/ | http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org
21:57.42Fisker-why so Ellipsis Ellipsis?
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21:58.12Fisker-so it's game over on friday or what?
21:58.32Ellipsisyes, end of the world, lhc destroys us all, etc.
21:59.22thullhc's Ellipsis
21:59.36Odlawwhat happens friday
21:59.54Stanzillago read teh topic :D
22:00.12Odlawquite a few links in that topic
22:02.56Ellipsishm, the user list looks funny in opera
22:05.04Ellipsisso it says to report issues regarding those pages but...whom do we report them to?
22:06.32Fisker-reports them to Ellipsis
22:06.38Fisker-1-0 and all that
22:18.48Pkekyo|plonks Ellipsis
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22:18.54Ellipsisoof
22:19.03Pkekyo|runs off
22:21.29thulhmm, I need a asian gf, that can give me loooong massages after my submission wrestling
22:21.52Ellipsis....
22:21.57Ellipsisbut I'm not asian?
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22:22.32Megalonnothing modern surgery can't fix
22:22.51thulEllipsis: well, you are taken, and I have heard evil rumors that you are not in norway either :-(
22:23.13thulso, even though my heart longs for your gentle touch and your warm embrace, I have to settle for second best.
22:23.13Ellipsisthose rumors don't *have* to be true ;)
22:23.25thulhehe, THAT is true, I might just choose to cling to them.
22:23.28WraithanAnyone have a working xorg.conf/XF86config they use with nvidia driver for WoW?
22:23.36Wraithancan't seem to get my hardware acceleration working
22:23.54Wraithanhttp://pastie.org/272974 <~ my xorg.conf if anyone wants to look at it, perhaps they could explain
22:24.09Pkekyo|aah, I can see the error allready
22:25.01WraithanPkekyo|: oh?
22:25.16Fisker-tickles Kaelten
22:25.17Pkekyo|yes, yes I do
22:25.43WraithanPkekyo|: mind telling me, or at least pointing out a line number?
22:25.49thulI guess that did not make Ellipsis love me :-(
22:26.09Pkekyo|don't worry, Ling Mei will still love you long time, suckysucky five dollas
22:26.15Pkekyo|Wraithan: no
22:26.23Ellipsisthul: I always love you
22:26.27Pkekyo|ok, ok, I'll tell you
22:26.33Pkekyo|this is the god's honest truth
22:26.35Pkekyo|YOU SUCK :p
22:26.43Pkekyo|sorry
22:26.47Pkekyo|just couldn't resist
22:26.59thulEllipsis: hehe, ok, then it is ok :-P
22:27.01Kaelten~lart Pkekyo|
22:27.01purlthrows Pkekyo|'s poor little doggy off a cliff
22:27.04Fisker-haxes Pkekyo|
22:27.08Kaeltenstop taking your insecurities out on others
22:27.15durcynadmires Pkekyo|'s honesty
22:27.17Fisker-but Kaelten transition to live on friday?
22:27.25Pkekyo|when people make it possible for me to be an arsehat...I get a tingly feeling inside...can't resist :<
22:27.31KaeltenFisker-: ?
22:27.43Pkekyo|thul: http://bash.carr.no/?id=13587
22:27.45Pkekyo|chuckles
22:27.58Fisker-We expect to start the real transition sometime on Friday, September 19, 2008.
22:28.00EllipsisKaelten: so as I was asking earlier, where do we report issues with the wowace beta pages?
22:28.25thulPkekyo|: fantastisk :-D
22:28.27Kaeltenbest to bug me directly for the time being
22:28.34thulEllipsis: so, san diego, seattle or san fransisco?
22:28.52Pkekyo|thul: almost fell off my damn chair laughing... hadn't slept for several days :p
22:29.05Ellipsiswell then, I noticed that the "authors" list looks a bit odd in opera - the two columns have slightly different formatting, usernames on the left seem to be a larger font size than on the right
22:29.12Ellipsisnot sure if the same is true in other browsers
22:29.29WraithanPkekyo|: wow, you are useless.
22:29.31KaeltenEllipsis: screen?
22:29.43Pkekyo|Wraithan: thanks :)
22:29.47Ellipsissec
22:29.53Pkekyo|quite the observer, aren't you? :p
22:30.44Fisker-you stoel my question Ellipsis :(
22:30.54thulPkekyo|: hehe, goodie :-P
22:31.23thulikke søk på thul Pkekyo| :-P
22:31.48Pkekyo|thul: neida
22:31.53Pkekyo|ikke i det hele tatt
22:33.23Pkekyo|Ellipsis: feed thul some bubblegum if you see him
22:33.25EllipsisKaelten: http://i36.tinypic.com/2e37i9v.png
22:33.40Pkekyo|ooh, fancypants opera skin
22:33.44Ellipsistinypic shrunk it a bit so it's slightly blurry, but the problem is still visible
22:34.05Kaeltenah thats actually intentional
22:34.08Fisker-hates opera users
22:34.11Ellipsiso.O
22:34.21Ellipsisthe two columns aren't meant to be the same?
22:34.27KaeltenI tried putting a border between the two sets of columns
22:34.41ckknightKaelten: bah, they should be the same
22:34.56Kaeltenwell if you're refering to the slight boldness of the second set of users, thats intentional
22:35.07Kaeltenits the same as the first
22:35.29thulPkekyo|: eey, evil :-P
22:35.37Pkekyo|thul: lies :p
22:35.37thulPkekyo|: I can't believe they did that :-D
22:35.42Pkekyo|Ellipsis: now give him bubblegum
22:35.44Pkekyo|thul: did what?
22:37.00EllipsisKaelten: they're different font sizes though
22:37.09Kaeltener... they shouldn't be
22:37.18Ellipsisthat was kind of my point :P
22:37.52Xinhuanwoo wotlk CE box contents announced
22:37.56Kaeltenheh, I'll fix it
22:38.14StanzillaKaelten: add the letter jumping while you are at it please :P
22:38.39Kaeltenlol
22:38.42Kaeltenthats a little more work
22:38.47StanzillaI know :P
22:38.48NivFreakXinhuan: blizzard really needs to stop letting 3rd parties beat them to thier announcements ;)
22:39.02Fisker-btw Kaelten
22:39.10Pkekyo|why does 'Shipping Up to Boston' make me want to watch 'Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels'? >.<
22:39.10Fisker-reporting my own post doesn't work so well
22:39.35Xinhuanlol
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22:41.41Kaeltenupdate just pushed out to the site, I'll be back on in a bit, I got to go pick up my kid
22:41.45Kaeltenand get some groceries.
22:41.50Ellipsishf
22:41.52Kaeltenbbiab
22:42.00NivFreakcan two paladins put beacon of light on the same target?
22:42.10thulPkekyo|: posted the log :-(
22:42.51Fisker-conspires against Ellipsis
22:42.56Ellipsis!
22:43.05Ellipsisdoes not trust Fisker-
22:43.43Fisker-oh but you should
22:44.12Ellipsisand why should I do that?
22:44.36Fisker-Because i'm also conspiring against Stanzilla
22:44.50FtH|DaemonaNivFreak not sure on the mechanic, but i know i had 2 beacon of light buffs today in naxx
22:44.59NivFreakFtH|Daemona: crazy
22:45.09NivFreakI still haven't gotten into naxx on beta
22:46.19Stanzilladestroys Fisker-
22:47.25FtH|Daemonai lucked on trash loot today, 2x Omen of Ruin
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22:50.53NivFreakdo 2xfast daggers work out alright?
22:51.21Ellipsispokes Fisker- with a pointy stick
22:52.13CIA-5803archarodim * r81756 10Decursive/Dcr_utils.lua:
22:52.13CIA-58Decursive:
22:52.14CIA-58- Fix pet name formatting function
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22:54.50Fisker-blargh
22:54.54Fisker-i'm ded Ellipsis
22:55.36xyu`Gud!
22:55.56Fisker-just kidding i can reincarnate
22:55.58Fisker-night
22:56.01xyu`:(
22:56.07Fisker-tell kaelten that i hate him :(
22:56.48Ellipsisk
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23:00.29Ellipsislicks Pkekyo|
23:01.09Dashkal*sigh* Eyonix... you've done some good things... but FAIL: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/9956309056-servant-of-xxxx.html
23:03.52dodgawtf.
23:03.55dodgahttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/6/9957009134-upcoming-priest-racial-changes.html
23:03.55KriLL3damnit
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23:04.06dodgaThey finally made Starshards somewhat useful
23:04.10dodgaAnd now they remove it!?
23:04.11dodgamkay
23:04.27dodgaI don't know what those Blizzies are smokin' but damn I want some of that shite
23:04.32NivFreaksweet
23:04.37NivFreaknon-talented holy nova
23:04.45NivFreakI always felt so guilty putting a pt there
23:04.53NivFreakbut it's so great
23:04.56dodgathough I don't get it
23:04.58NivFreaksnake trape what?
23:04.59NivFreak:)
23:05.02dodga- Symbol of Hope - Now a base ability. Now restores 5% base mana every 2 seconds for 8 seconds to your party. Renamed "Hymn of Hope."
23:05.06NivFreaks/trape/trap/
23:05.10dodgaSo we're still mana battery #1
23:05.15NivFreakdodga: BASE mana
23:05.20EllipsisNivFreak: but you can always just say you did it for the lulz?
23:05.23dodgaNivFreak: so?
23:05.32NivFreakso that's what
23:05.41NivFreak200 mana
23:05.46NivFreakper tick
23:05.48smcnyou know the spells that say 80%+ base mana cost on wowhead? :P
23:05.51dodga"Hey I iz ret I raid kk?" - "No we'll take the priest who does the same as you AND has that symbol of hope thing"
23:05.52Stanzillagive me my desperate prayer back
23:05.53Stanzillabastards!
23:05.57smcnthey don't actually cost 80% of your mana :P
23:06.13NivFreakdodga: lol
23:06.19NivFreakthat's a trivial amount of mana
23:06.23NivFreak1600 or so
23:06.31dodgaNivFreak: So we do say 1k mana every few minutes
23:06.39dodgaThat's still cool, no?
23:06.46NivFreakI'm guessing long CD
23:06.50NivFreakand it's party based
23:07.05NivFreakand priests could use a little something to be honest
23:07.09Fisker-lol dodga
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23:07.10dodgaHeh, people never stop whining
23:07.14dodgaAnd I'm a priest :>
23:07.24dodgaI wanna keep my Starshards though :P
23:07.24Ellipsiswhines about whiners
23:07.35dodgauh wtf.
23:07.38dodgaSorry I didn't clarify, they all become base abilities (other than desperate prayer). There are no longer any "Priest racial abilities."
23:07.39xyu`As long as us mages remain whiners #1!
23:07.39StanzillaI wanna keep desperate prayer
23:07.42Stanzillait's my ass saver
23:07.43dodgamkay, nice.
23:07.49Fisker-Blizzard and consistency is always awesome
23:08.13Fisker-"zomg unique, we're never bowing down to your outrageous demands of balance!"
23:08.20Fisker-Later: "Omg balance"
23:08.44xyu`balnique!
23:09.16dodgaI suppose they have a big oracle that they ask every now and then "Oh mighty smiter, shall we give all priests fear ward?" - "no." - "now?" - "no." - "now?" - "no." - "what about now?" - "yeah okay." - "really?" - "fuck no!"
23:09.25Fisker-though i'm guessing the mana regen racial will be like other mana regen specs/classes, i.e. not stack
23:09.38Fisker-yeah dodga
23:10.30dodgaOr another of my favorites "Let's see, how can we screw priests over in this patch... Uuuh I know! Let's give them a totally new icon for a totally useless ability that nobody even has on their action bar!"
23:10.36EllipsisPkekyo|: btw that's no fancy opera skin, just windows native :P
23:10.56Fisker-hisses
23:11.07Fisker-opera >:E
23:11.19EllipsisFisker-: what do you use, chrome? :P
23:11.30Fisker-urmom
23:11.34Fisker-it's based on khtml
23:11.37Fisker->:3
23:12.01Fisker-anyways i only hate opera because you stoel my question :(
23:12.07Ellipsiswhat.
23:12.19Fisker-<-emokitteh is sensitiev
23:13.02dodgahm
23:13.11dodgapriests will be selfbuffing galore then
23:13.18EllipsisFisker-, you are making almost as much sense as usual
23:13.21Fisker-om nom noms
23:13.34Adirellehrmf... can't browse my repo on curseforge, tried password and ssh key (btw, openssh or ssh.com format ?)
23:13.40Fisker-I make as much sense as Blizzard is consistent
23:13.42Fisker-true story
23:13.48EllipsisI see what you did there
23:13.55Ellipsisso what do you mean I stole your question?
23:14.04StanzillaDesperate Prayer - ... Cooldown also reduced to 30 seconds.
23:14.11Stanzillathat is OP btw
23:14.16StanzillaDP costs no mana
23:14.29Ellipsismmm, DP spam
23:14.38Stanzillafree self heal for up to 3k every 30 sec?
23:14.39Stanzillanice O.o
23:14.42Ellipsiswhat are you complaining about, you're human
23:14.48Stanzillabut not holy!
23:14.52EllipsisQQQQQ
23:14.56Stanzillayes!
23:15.14dodgaHm, is Hex of Weakness like Mortal Strike or is it healing done by the target?
23:15.40Fisker-i hate ganking shadow priests at 10% and then they use desperate prayer and turn around and kill me in 5 seconds Stanzilla
23:15.41Fisker-QQ
23:15.53Stanzillathat's what I do
23:15.56Stanzillaall the time :D
23:16.07dodgakek I can chastise Ellipsis then
23:16.18Ellipsiswait what
23:16.21Ellipsisno :(
23:16.22dodgadamn it's holy.
23:16.30dodgaBut for you I'll leave Shadowform
23:16.41Ellipsisthat's so sweet, I think
23:16.50Aiichastising Ellipsis? kinky
23:16.52Ellipsiskinky at least
23:16.53Fisker-no me dodga
23:16.59Aii>.>
23:17.04EllipsisAii: I'll let you in on the action if you want
23:17.09Fisker-performs exorcism on Ellipsis
23:17.10Aii<.<
23:17.15Aiimaaaaaaaaaybe?
23:17.18Fisker-i'm specced in improved exorcism!
23:17.24dodgaTurn undead should work on Ellipsis too!
23:17.50EllipsisI'm not undead
23:17.52Fisker-http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=27138#used-by-npc <-wut?
23:17.54EllipsisI'm just a different kind of alive
23:18.11dodgaI thought you was a lock?
23:18.32Fisker-i r holy
23:18.38Fisker-i'm liek attacking people on 30%
23:18.46Fisker-and then i'm liek "Shit didn't get him to 19%"
23:18.48Fisker-then i get owned :(
23:18.51dodgaHammering your justice into them?
23:18.55Ellipsiso.o
23:18.58dodgaI think I'm gonna be sick.
23:19.15EllipsisI am a lock...but not in demon form :d
23:19.21Fisker-holy shocks Ellipsis
23:19.40Fisker-anyways Ellipsis
23:19.44Fisker-it's turn evil now
23:19.46Fisker-so it works on you
23:19.53Fisker-because you're pure evil :
23:19.53Fisker-:(
23:20.11Ellipsiso rry?
23:20.23Fisker-ya rry
23:20.35dodgahm crap, misread Koraa. they remove all priest "racials" instead of those 3, lulz
23:20.36NivFreakso my bears are learning p2 illidan atm
23:20.38dodgaI iz ded.
23:20.44NivFreakand they just found an addon called blazed
23:20.46NivFreakheh
23:20.58Fisker-lol dodga
23:21.00Fisker-you failed
23:21.07dodga~fail dodga
23:21.08purlYou suck at everything in life, dodga. I hate you because you fail.
23:21.12NivFreakI love that they design encounters that really require you to tweak graphics settings to be successful
23:21.25Fisker-yeah
23:21.36Fisker-shouldn't they consider showing all boss effects even on low spell level?
23:21.58NivFreakyea, council is pretty much impossible without max spell detail
23:22.06NivFreakand having max detail on illidan is insane
23:22.16NivFreakbut having low detail means you can't see blaze
23:22.25Ellipsisall they need to do is make sure they add "base" effects to all boss abilities that work at lowest spell detail
23:22.36Ellipsisand then stack the shinier effects on top of those for higher detail
23:22.37steevare there any addons that work with ptr?
23:22.45NivFreaklots
23:23.15steevspecifically, quartz
23:23.16leech2kdgks works fine :-)
23:23.16leech2kon beta and ptr
23:23.16NivFreakI'd imagine the same addons that are working in wrath mostly work on the ptr
23:23.16steevwhere do i find em cuz i tried parrot and the version i have fails
23:23.16NivFreakand wowwiki has a list
23:23.27Adirellenight
23:23.34leech2kI am sure if you give a few days most the wowace mods will get fixed up.
23:24.12Ellipsisparrot will probably be worse off than most of them due to lack of maintenance lately
23:24.17steevNivFreak: have a link?
23:24.38steevnevermind, found it
23:24.57dodgaEllipsis is gonna fix Parrot? Shweet.
23:25.17Ellipsissearches in vain for a log of her committing to that
23:25.25NivFreaksteev: http://www.wowwiki.com/WotLK_AddOn_status
23:25.28NivFreakah
23:25.28NivFreakheh
23:26.33thulach
23:26.44thulcog = cogitech?
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23:26.52steevyeah, i searched addons, then wotlk, then i said fuck it, wotlk addon
23:28.18steevis there a way to take the bt3 setup and have bt4 use it?
23:29.03ulicsteev: I'm pretty sure there is not.
23:29.20steevhmm, okay
23:29.35Fisker-it's a bomb!
23:31.42steevweird
23:32.07steevi could have sworn i enabled the addons
23:33.02steevoh well, ptr is down for the count, again
23:35.33Pkekyo|my arm looks wicked in pictarz :p
23:35.51Ellipsisit's true
23:36.17Pkekyo|Ellipsis: I've concluded that it isn't restricted to that single pose :O
23:36.25Ellipsisneeds moar pictarz
23:36.30Pkekyo|haha
23:36.55Pkekyo|lopsilols
23:40.07kenlyrichttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/6/9957009134-upcoming-priest-racial-changes.html
23:40.34dodgakenlyric: Years behind :>
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23:43.32steevsweet
23:43.38steevwowlua works without any changes?
23:44.04steevor is r239 different than what is on wowprogramming.com
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23:45.51stew_aso does anyone know the best way of parsing lua tables in php? its a strange table that breaks most parsers and the file has a function or 2 at the start of the file
23:47.46Ellipsiswhy not just have your lua output php code? :P
23:48.06Arrowmasteror output xml
23:48.16dodgaYeah I did something like that, made Lua to output XML
23:48.20dodgaAnd parsed that in PHP
23:48.47stew_abecause this is really not that sort of thing, i did it once before and made lua otuput a php array in a php file, but its not really suitable here unless i run it through the lua binary on the server
23:49.04dodgaAnd you can
23:49.13dodgaAnd you can't/don't want that because..?
23:50.14stew_athe scripts aren't trusted content, its user provided, and i'd rather not run unknown scripts through the binary
23:50.28dodgaValid points
23:53.05dodgathen do some regex to change the lua to make it xml?
23:54.21Arrowmasterthats why you sandbox it
23:54.43charonstill doesn't solve the halting problem ;)
23:55.13dodgacharon: That can't be solved, you learn that in one of the first computer science lessons :P
23:55.31charonmust have slept through those
23:55.51dodgaDidn't miss much :P
23:55.57Arrowmasteri have some code that reads a file and runs it through loadstring() but before executing it, it changes the function enviroment to a blank table so nothing but basic lua syntax is available
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23:56.13stew_asandbox it?
23:56.42dodgaArrowmaster: That's mean. Did you ever think about the function environment? It does have feelings and stuff
23:56.55dodgaJust emptying it.. like that..
23:57.14Ellipsisit's just temporary, it won't feel a thing
23:57.42dodgaThey teach you women to say that in elementary school, don't they
23:57.48Ellipsis:>
23:58.05stew_aok but then how do you go from running lua code to php, obviously you wouldnt want the IO functions or anything to be available to the running script so you can't just dump to a file
23:58.42dodgastew_a: I'd suppose you loadstring the table and the iterate over it, print'ing the things you need
23:59.52Arrowmasteryeah in my example i loadstring the file and because i set its function enviroment to a blank table before running it, i can just look at whats in that table and i have the contents of the file

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