| 00:03.15 | FtH|Daemona | www.mogulus.com/daemona_live |
| 00:07.49 | CIA-51 | 03LordFarlander * r81503 10MiniPet/MiniPet.lua: |
| 00:07.49 | CIA-51 | MiniPet: |
| 00:07.49 | CIA-51 | - Critter enchant items works |
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| 00:11.03 | Tifi | when you duel a party member, do you see exact health values? |
| 00:11.19 | Ominous | Gnarfoz: please test |
| 00:11.29 | CIA-51 | 03ominous 07WOTLK * r81504 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: Possible beta fix |
| 00:11.36 | Ominous | Gnarfoz: but unfortunatly i am not even sure it dosent have any syntax errors |
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| 00:20.24 | Gnarfoz | FtH|Daemona: lol @ poison abuse |
| 00:21.12 | Ominous | Gnarfoz: do you need a zip to test the classtimer or do you have svn> |
| 00:21.25 | Gnarfoz | I have svn ;D |
| 00:21.30 | Ominous | :) |
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| 00:24.18 | Gnarfoz | http://www.ohloh.net/projects/4590/contributors/19716047400500 lol |
| 00:24.26 | Gnarfoz | I wonder where those numbers come from <3 |
| 00:24.59 | Pkekyo| | ~date |
| 00:25.00 | purl | It is now 2008.09.08 0:25:00 GMT |
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| 00:29.12 | Ominous | Gnarfoz: well yell at me when you know if it works or if there are errors :) |
| 00:29.35 | Gnarfoz | Ominous: yeah, will do, stuck in Dalaran atm xD |
| 00:30.11 | Ominous | xD |
| 00:30.30 | Ominous | post on the forums if i dont reply when you tell me |
| 00:30.39 | Ominous | as i often afk in here :P |
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| 00:36.41 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: from cia i think |
| 00:37.23 | Gnarfoz | Ominous: http://ace.pastey.net/95554 :( (activated Evasion while in Dalaran, out of combat) |
| 00:38.37 | Ominous | ok |
| 00:38.39 | CIA-51 | 03ominous 07WOTLK * r81505 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: fix bug |
| 00:38.41 | Ominous | ^^ |
| 00:38.43 | Arrowmaster | heh wowace is worth $41mil |
| 00:39.00 | Arrowmaster | according to ohloh |
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| 00:42.31 | Ominous | Gnarfoz: that should do it /hopes |
| 00:42.54 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: but who's buying...? ;p |
| 00:43.05 | Gnarfoz | also ohloh is weird |
| 00:43.27 | Ellipsis | what's a kudos and why do I have 4 of them? :P |
| 00:43.42 | Gnarfoz | I was listed as "kudo rank 4" (whatever?), claimed my name (i.e. made an account and said "yes that's me") |
| 00:43.45 | Gnarfoz | and now I'm at 1 |
| 00:43.46 | Gnarfoz | ;X |
| 00:43.51 | Ellipsis | fail't |
| 00:44.03 | Gnarfoz | same as for you, I guess :p |
| 00:44.07 | Ellipsis | I think I'll stay unclaimed for now thank you very much! |
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| 01:19.22 | *** topic/#wowace is WoWAce Future Plans! http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14316.0 | http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Author Key Give-Aways! http://wow.curseforge.com/announcements/lich-king-beta-author-key-giveaway/ | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17207 |
| 01:19.32 | Camci | I use Quartz |
| 01:19.36 | Camci | could it be that? |
| 01:19.36 | FtH|Daemona | Camci make a macro, paste "/script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("You are hovering over frame: " .. GetMouseFocus():GetName())" put it on a hotkey, mouseover the frame and hit the hotkey |
| 01:19.49 | FtH|Daemona | but yes, that might be quartz |
| 01:19.58 | Camci | Let me check :) |
| 01:20.15 | Camci | lol thats it, thanks alot ;) |
| 01:20.20 | Camci | :D |
| 01:22.07 | Ominous | Gnarfoz: did that only happen with debuffs? |
| 01:24.37 | Elgren | Camci |
| 01:24.45 | Elgren | you have mirror options in quartz |
| 01:26.04 | Elgren | It will also display extra bars for you. Like resurection timers. Timers for a battleground to start etc |
| 01:26.25 | Elgren | Breath included |
| 01:27.19 | Camci | Got it Elgren, was annoying, i changed resolution and had to move some stuff, couldnt figure out what that was |
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| 01:28.13 | Poul|Raider | 9/6 00:13:37.642 SPELL_DAMAGE,0x000000000005E276,"Reedu",0x512,0xF130003A21012875,"Spider",0xa28,51411,"Howling Blast",0x10,452,444,16,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil |
| 01:28.22 | Poul|Raider | what school is the 444 |
| 01:28.23 | Gnarfoz | Ominous: I think that was sprint, actually? :< |
| 01:29.22 | Ominous | Gnarfoz: argh that makes no sense |
| 01:29.42 | Gnarfoz | I think you're underestimating the changes to the Aura system in LK, tbh |
| 01:32.33 | Poul|Raider | Howling Blast is frost etc |
| 01:32.53 | Poul|Raider | hmm |
| 01:33.13 | Poul|Raider | did they put in an ekstra argument to Spell Damage in wotlk |
| 01:34.25 | Elgren | hum |
| 01:34.38 | Elgren | Gnarfoz changes to the aura system? |
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| 01:34.56 | Gnarfoz | ...yes? |
| 01:35.03 | Elgren | tell me about it |
| 01:35.09 | Gnarfoz | no? :D |
| 01:35.15 | Elgren | ./beg |
| 01:35.25 | Elgren | :P |
| 01:35.39 | Gnarfoz | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202271194&sid=1 |
| 01:35.45 | Gnarfoz | that thread's there for a reason :P |
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| 01:40.28 | Elgren | thats all you needed to sat |
| 01:40.29 | Elgren | say |
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| 01:44.59 | itson | omg i need help finding an app for mac |
| 01:45.06 | itson | anybody up? |
| 01:46.08 | Ominous | Gnarfoz: the thing is it got further before the last update, but nothing i have changed would cause it to fail there |
| 01:46.11 | itson | anybody on mac? |
| 01:46.40 | NivFreak | fuck |
| 01:46.44 | NivFreak | I run out to repair |
| 01:46.47 | NivFreak | and northrend crashes |
| 01:47.35 | itson | anybody know any apps i could use to toggle key on and off inside mac to spam a hunter macro? |
| 01:48.39 | NivFreak | applescript |
| 01:48.47 | itson | how do i use it? |
| 01:48.49 | itson | any guide on it? |
| 01:49.37 | Aiiane | google has many guides |
| 01:49.46 | itson | hum.. |
| 01:50.48 | Elgren | itson |
| 01:50.51 | Elgren | just toggle it man |
| 01:50.56 | CIA-51 | 03ominous 07WOTLK * r81506 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: maybe fix bug |
| 01:51.00 | Elgren | toggle toggle toggel |
| 01:51.02 | Elgren | easy man |
| 01:51.47 | Elgren | sorry; i should not go to irc after ive been out. I go to bed bye |
| 01:51.58 | Elgren | I hope you can toggel it itson, bye |
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| 01:59.40 | Pkekyo| | anyone got any experience with MSBlaster lately? |
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| 02:15.21 | Elgren | hey |
| 02:15.26 | Elgren | Pkekyo| |
| 02:15.33 | Elgren | isnt that the virus from the 90's? |
| 02:15.37 | Elgren | höhöhöhö |
| 02:15.46 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 02:16.44 | Pkekyo| | Elgren: early 2000s methinks...just curious as to wether or not it's still running rampant |
| 02:17.00 | Pkekyo| | gonna reformat my entire system...I'd rather not find out the hard way :p |
| 02:17.34 | JoshBorke | yes, it is |
| 02:17.36 | JoshBorke | install with sp2 |
| 02:17.56 | Elgren | Oh buddy |
| 02:17.57 | Pkekyo| | that's the plan...but it affected SP2 as well, I learned that the hard way back in the days |
| 02:18.03 | Elgren | What OS are you running man? |
| 02:18.08 | Elgren | Win98? |
| 02:18.09 | Pkekyo| | XP SP2 |
| 02:18.17 | Elgren | Right |
| 02:18.23 | Xinhuan | should install it with SP3 |
| 02:18.32 | Pkekyo| | I'm not going anywhere near SP3 |
| 02:18.33 | Elgren | I would get windows vista man |
| 02:18.42 | Elgren | its blaster proof atleast buddy |
| 02:18.52 | Xinhuan | SP3 beats SP2 out of the water |
| 02:18.58 | Elgren | And ive had beers so maybe not take my advice ok? |
| 02:19.00 | Pkekyo| | I wouldn't fucking touch vista if it came bundled with $1000000 USD |
| 02:19.05 | JoshBorke | i have no problems with sp3 |
| 02:19.19 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo|: really? it's not so bad |
| 02:19.20 | Elgren | Pkekyo| you sound like one of these rebels |
| 02:19.23 | Xinhuan | in fact sp3 supercedes sp1/2 |
| 02:19.30 | Xinhuan | doesn't require sp1 or sp2 to install sp3 |
| 02:19.30 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: i hate you |
| 02:19.34 | Elgren | like I HATE WHATS NEW, IM OLDSCHOOL PRO STYLE AYE PLZ THINK IM COOL |
| 02:19.36 | Pkekyo| | Elgren: I've used vista...I hate it with a fucking passion |
| 02:19.52 | Elgren | whatever buddy |
| 02:19.52 | JoshBorke | i really don't see what's so wrong with vista |
| 02:19.58 | Elgren | same here |
| 02:20.00 | JoshBorke | i can browse the web and check my email just fine |
| 02:20.03 | Elgren | plz tell me Pkekyo| |
| 02:20.08 | Elgren | or ill just take you for a fool |
| 02:20.12 | Elgren | ok buddy? |
| 02:20.39 | Pkekyo| | you do that...buddy... |
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| 02:21.08 | Elgren | Anyway |
| 02:21.13 | Elgren | are you japanese or something? |
| 02:21.18 | Elgren | I just cant understand your name |
| 02:21.19 | Pkekyo| | no |
| 02:21.41 | Pkekyo| | it's pronounced straight forward... P-k-e-k-y-o |
| 02:21.50 | Pkekyo| | - as a word |
| 02:21.56 | Elgren | sounds japanese to me |
| 02:21.59 | Pkekyo| | think 'acronym' when you say it |
| 02:22.08 | Pkekyo| | to the best of my knowledge, it's not japanese |
| 02:22.10 | JoshBorke | i don't get it |
| 02:22.19 | JoshBorke | it's too long |
| 02:22.21 | Pkekyo| | Josh_Borke: there's really nothing to get |
| 02:22.33 | Elgren | JoshBorke |
| 02:22.37 | Pkekyo| | Josh_Borke: eh? |
| 02:22.38 | Elgren | hold on a second |
| 02:22.45 | Elgren | this guy is cool, dont say anything stupid |
| 02:22.51 | JoshBorke | but i can't help it |
| 02:22.51 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 02:22.52 | JoshBorke | i am stupid |
| 02:22.54 | Elgren | he hates vista ok? he's oldschool cool |
| 02:23.14 | JoshBorke | i use linux almost exclusively and even i don't hate vista... |
| 02:23.18 | JoshBorke | something must be wrong with me |
| 02:23.23 | Arrowmaster | there is |
| 02:23.29 | JoshBorke | Arrowmaster: ouch |
| 02:23.35 | Elgren | JoshBorke |
| 02:23.43 | Elgren | You program shit? |
| 02:23.45 | Pkekyo| | JoshBorke: have you been forced to work with that thing for extensive periods of time? :) |
| 02:23.47 | Elgren | write code? |
| 02:23.48 | JoshBorke | Elgren: i have in the past |
| 02:23.54 | Elgren | thats very cool |
| 02:24.04 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo|: it's installed on my laptop which is my main machine when i'm at home |
| 02:24.13 | Elgren | I always wanted to learn it. but didnt get the time ever |
| 02:24.17 | JoshBorke | Elgren: if you say so, my most popular mod barely broke 5k downloads |
| 02:24.19 | Pkekyo| | my condolances then |
| 02:24.32 | JoshBorke | works just fine for me |
| 02:24.35 | Elgren | JoshBorke who cares, people are idiots |
| 02:24.49 | Gnarfoz | Ominous: updated. shows 1 bar, that one doesn't disappear when it runs out (stays empty) and when I have 2 buffs it should display bars for at the same time, it errors. http://ace.pastey.net/95563 |
| 02:24.56 | Pkekyo| | for me it was a bloody nightmare when I was forced to work with it...restrictions up the arse |
| 02:25.00 | Elgren | and geting more people then 5K to download it is going to take alot more then top quality |
| 02:25.11 | Elgren | its going to take for fools like Pkekyo| to understand the quality aswell |
| 02:25.19 | Elgren | So in my mind you can be very proud |
| 02:25.31 | JoshBorke | oh don't worry, my ego is huge like whoa |
| 02:25.45 | Elgren | Yes |
| 02:25.52 | Elgren | thats good too |
| 02:26.11 | JoshBorke | yea, if i ever release a working wiki, my ego won't fit in this room |
| 02:26.37 | Elgren | JoshBorke |
| 02:26.39 | JoshBorke | then again, i'm waiting on splut and healcap to be released |
| 02:26.43 | Elgren | hohoho |
| 02:27.06 | Elgren | Tell you what boosted my ego |
| 02:27.11 | Elgren | last weekend |
| 02:27.12 | JoshBorke | i missed somethign, all you said was my nickname and then hohoho |
| 02:27.17 | CIA-51 | 03Allara 07WotLK * r81507 10HitsMode/ (Changes.txt HitsMode.lua Locales/HitsMode.enUS.lua): HitsMode: - Various fixes for WotLK |
| 02:27.21 | Tifi | is there a /ignore on irc? |
| 02:27.26 | JoshBorke | friends don't let friends drink and irc |
| 02:27.33 | JoshBorke | tifi: yea, /ignore <name> |
| 02:27.55 | JoshBorke | depends on the client though |
| 02:27.59 | JoshBorke | becuase it's a client side command |
| 02:28.18 | Elgren | JoshBorke |
| 02:28.21 | Elgren | höhööööööö |
| 02:28.28 | Elgren | sorry man ive been drinking tonight |
| 02:28.35 | Elgren | trying to focus as much as I can here |
| 02:28.38 | Elgren | because I cant sleep |
| 02:28.39 | Pkekyo| | don't worry Elgren, we can tell |
| 02:29.21 | Elgren | Anyway. I was playing my shaman earlier. had to help a friend with some shit in wow. |
| 02:29.26 | Elgren | and I had a girl here |
| 02:29.31 | Elgren | and she watched for a little bit |
| 02:29.39 | Elgren | then later on the night |
| 02:29.46 | CIA-51 | 03gnarfoz 07WOTLK * r81508 10ClassTimer/Bars/Rogue.lua: |
| 02:29.46 | CIA-51 | ClassTimer - WotLK - Rogue: |
| 02:29.46 | CIA-51 | - removed Find Weakness, Mace Stun Effect |
| 02:29.46 | CIA-51 | - added Hunger for Blood, Shadow Dance |
| 02:29.48 | CIA-51 | - fixed all Poison Spell IDs (crafting spell IDs are gone because the entire "Poisons" crafting skill was removed, use the actual spell IDs instead) |
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| 02:29.56 | Elgren | she says to be to put up my big totem |
| 02:30.00 | Elgren | höööööhöhö |
| 02:30.12 | Zhinjio | Good evening. |
| 02:30.28 | JoshBorke | you chose a bad time Zhinjio, or good time, depending |
| 02:30.51 | Elgren | Whats that supposed to mean JoshBorke |
| 02:31.14 | Pkekyo| | it's supposed to mean it's a good or a bad time to join, dependant on how much you like arshattry in the early hours |
| 02:31.31 | CIA-51 | 03ominous 07WOTLK * r81509 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: forgot about the sorting, was trying to use an old variable |
| 02:31.32 | JoshBorke | or late, depending on your location |
| 02:31.37 | Pkekyo| | true |
| 02:31.53 | Elgren | Pkekyo| go hate windows vista in your winXPsp3 groupie room!! |
| 02:32.01 | Elgren | japanese room!!! |
| 02:32.16 | Pkekyo| | that's the arsehattry I mentioned a couple of minutes ago :) |
| 02:32.22 | Elgren | I go to bed I think |
| 02:32.23 | Pkekyo| | well, one minute actually |
| 02:33.00 | Elgren | I go to my friends house |
| 02:33.15 | JoshBorke | Elgren: good night, hope you feel great in the morning |
| 02:33.17 | Elgren | he sms me earlier said he had 2 girls there |
| 02:33.42 | Elgren | JoshBorke I will buddy. Im not that drunk as you might think |
| 02:33.53 | JoshBorke | no, you're quite coherent |
| 02:34.12 | Pkekyo| | coherent != sober |
| 02:34.18 | Pkekyo| | far from it, actually |
| 02:34.36 | JoshBorke | which is why i chose the word coherent and not sober ;-P |
| 02:34.56 | Elgren | Where are you from? |
| 02:35.06 | Pkekyo| | not gonna get into the semantics now :) |
| 02:35.10 | Pkekyo| | busybusybusy |
| 02:35.21 | Elgren | yes I know |
| 02:35.31 | Elgren | still trying to figure out why you really hate vista so much |
| 02:35.42 | Elgren | you have to come up with a reason buddy |
| 02:35.43 | Pkekyo| | no, actually trying to clear up space for a backup |
| 02:35.44 | Rayden | how good is 900tps? |
| 02:35.48 | Elgren | or else you'r not cool at all |
| 02:35.54 | JoshBorke | Rayden: not that good |
| 02:36.00 | Ominous | Gnarfoz: im off now, so if there are anymore errors please can you post on the classtimer forum topic on wowace |
| 02:36.01 | Pkekyo| | Rayden: decent...nowhere near great |
| 02:36.04 | JoshBorke | Rayden: considering 1 dps = 1 tps unmodified |
| 02:36.19 | Gnarfoz | Ominous: there are, certainly, because your last commit didn't change anything :\ |
| 02:36.20 | Elgren | Rayden |
| 02:36.22 | Pkekyo| | Elgren: wether or not a drunken arsehat thinks I'm cool doesn't really concern me all that much :) |
| 02:36.24 | Gnarfoz | Ominous: but I'll post there =) |
| 02:36.30 | Elgren | it depends what u are raiding man and what ur class is |
| 02:36.32 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo|: i don't think you're cool |
| 02:36.35 | Ominous | Gnarfoz: erm should have...odd |
| 02:36.38 | Elgren | I meen if your a dps class you want low TPS |
| 02:36.39 | Ominous | ill have another look |
| 02:36.41 | Elgren | and 900 would be great |
| 02:36.43 | Elgren | hahaha |
| 02:36.55 | Gnarfoz | Ominous: bar.remaining = endTime-currentTime probably fails silently |
| 02:37.01 | Pkekyo| | Josh_Borke: that doesn't worry me either :) |
| 02:37.07 | Gnarfoz | because the error is still the same at line 334, comparing two nil values |
| 02:37.11 | Ominous | Gnarfoz: dammit, the error is because i put that in after the sort line |
| 02:37.30 | Gnarfoz | oh, yeah, I see |
| 02:37.35 | Elgren | Pkekyo| I bet you never go out for a jog |
| 02:37.40 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo|: lol |
| 02:37.47 | Pkekyo| | Elgren: I haven't for a while, no... |
| 02:37.50 | Elgren | you slowly fall apart comparing windows versions |
| 02:37.55 | Elgren | poor guy |
| 02:38.09 | Pkekyo| | no, I that's not my kind of fun :) |
| 02:38.15 | Rayden | i'm a ~t4 druid tanking nightbane |
| 02:38.16 | Pkekyo| | - I |
| 02:38.20 | Rayden | pushing 800-900tps |
| 02:38.23 | Elgren | Rayden |
| 02:38.34 | Elgren | i karazhan you are doing great with that tps |
| 02:39.00 | CIA-51 | 03ominous 07WOTLK * r81510 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: erm helps if variables are defiened after the function that needs them |
| 02:39.24 | Rayden | what's a light armory site? |
| 02:39.30 | Gnarfoz | dunn dunn dunnnnn |
| 02:39.30 | fewyn | druid tanking is awesome |
| 02:39.32 | Gnarfoz | armorylight.com |
| 02:39.38 | fewyn | <- tanks in BT |
| 02:39.43 | Rayden | nope |
| 02:39.52 | Elgren | hey |
| 02:39.55 | Elgren | if I was a druid |
| 02:39.56 | fewyn | http://armorylite.com/ |
| 02:39.59 | Elgren | id be moonkin for sure |
| 02:40.02 | fewyn | meh |
| 02:40.03 | Elgren | thats so cool |
| 02:40.07 | fewyn | moonkin is lame |
| 02:40.08 | fewyn | well |
| 02:40.09 | Elgren | Rayden |
| 02:40.10 | fewyn | i want to try it |
| 02:40.13 | fewyn | just to make sure |
| 02:40.17 | Elgren | Are you a tauren or a elf? |
| 02:40.19 | Rayden | tauren |
| 02:40.20 | Ominous | Gnarfoz: anyway now i am off, its 3:40 am here :/. cheers for your help |
| 02:40.21 | erikh | arranges the wood |
| 02:40.23 | Elgren | respect man |
| 02:40.24 | Elgren | RESPECT |
| 02:40.27 | Rayden | http://armorylite.com/us/Eitrigg/petahoof |
| 02:40.28 | Rayden | grr |
| 02:40.29 | Rayden | dps gear |
| 02:40.30 | Elgren | I love the tauren |
| 02:40.32 | Elgren | Im a Orc myself |
| 02:40.32 | fewyn | Tauren > Nelf |
| 02:40.42 | Pkekyo| | tauren > all |
| 02:40.45 | fewyn | http://be.imba.hu/?zone=US&realm=norgannon&character=Fewyn <- dps gear |
| 02:40.58 | Elgren | Im a Orc Shaman |
| 02:41.16 | fewyn | i should become unlazy and enchant my s4 gloves |
| 02:41.48 | erikh | I can't manage to get vista to run mobmap updater on startup without complaining, it takes considerably more resources than xp, and it seems to take a lot more resources/effort to be "secure" when my linux and mac machines are inherently so |
| 02:41.56 | erikh | lights the match and sets it on the wood |
| 02:42.08 | erikh | i just use it because I have 4GB of ram on the box and don't want to waste it |
| 02:42.29 | Arrowmaster | vista 64bit? |
| 02:42.31 | Elgren | Ofcourse it takes more. But hey who cares buddy? I GOT MORE |
| 02:42.34 | Elgren | höhööööhööh |
| 02:42.35 | erikh | Arrowmaster: yessir |
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| 02:42.55 | erikh | Elgren: I actually use the computer I buy |
| 02:42.57 | erikh | that's why I care |
| 02:43.05 | erikh | I don't buy 4GB of ram to just say I have it. :) |
| 02:43.11 | Elgren | well buy 8 |
| 02:43.17 | Rayden | i have 4gb |
| 02:43.19 | Rayden | so nice |
| 02:43.21 | Elgren | and u can run the better os just as good as you run the bad with 4 |
| 02:43.22 | Elgren | ok buddy? |
| 02:43.44 | Arrowmaster | go away troll |
| 02:43.44 | erikh | actually, i can't; xp 64 is horrible in the driver department and I need windows for some things. |
| 02:43.59 | erikh | that leaves me with vista, since 32-bit xp won't recognize above 2.5GB of ram. |
| 02:44.05 | erikh | (roughly) |
| 02:44.12 | Elgren | right |
| 02:44.15 | Elgren | xp sucks |
| 02:44.18 | Elgren | damn shit right! |
| 02:44.22 | Elgren | erikh with me! |
| 02:44.29 | Pkekyo| | Elgren: are you making an effort to be an arsehat, or does it kinda...just happen? |
| 02:44.31 | erikh | no, xp 64-bit driver support sucks. |
| 02:44.40 | Pkekyo| | erikhno, xp 64-bit driver support sucks. <--- truth |
| 02:44.46 | erikh | xp 64-bit on good drivers is great. |
| 02:45.05 | Elgren | Pkekyo| |
| 02:45.16 | Elgren | Im a good guy, a real good guy I promice |
| 02:45.38 | Elgren | I just dont like that you come in here and complain, and say whats best and wors for no god damn reason man. |
| 02:46.04 | Elgren | Weird things upset me when ive been drinking a little bit. I hope that doesnt cut down too much on me as a person |
| 02:46.10 | Elgren | I make up for it I think |
| 02:46.10 | Arrowmaster | you are doing exactly that, like i said go away troll |
| 02:46.11 | Pkekyo| | you ordered me to install windows vista, and I replied that I won't because I hate the damn thing... |
| 02:46.33 | Elgren | Im sorry if I was giving orders |
| 02:46.39 | Elgren | I dont usually do that buddy |
| 02:46.41 | Elgren | sorry ok? |
| 02:46.51 | Pkekyo| | yeah |
| 02:47.09 | Elgren | just dont complain. Ive seen enough of negative energized people in my life and ive seen many of them end up not so bad ok? |
| 02:47.12 | Pkekyo| | use vista if you want, whatever floats your boat...but I won't :) |
| 02:47.17 | Elgren | You need to set aside your negativity man |
| 02:47.28 | erikh | wise words from a hypocrite |
| 02:47.30 | Elgren | not so good I mean |
| 02:47.36 | erikh | anyways, I need to disappear before I get angry or something :P |
| 02:47.38 | erikh | ttyl |
| 02:47.56 | Pkekyo| | g'nite erikh |
| 02:47.57 | Elgren | Hey |
| 02:48.19 | Elgren | Ive seen negative people get depressed > worse. They dont even know it. |
| 02:48.26 | Elgren | Stay away from finding errors guys |
| 02:48.38 | Elgren | I know its natural for you programmers, you errorscan with your heads |
| 02:48.47 | Elgren | its unhealthy to do it too much I promice |
| 02:48.56 | Pkekyo| | I've been depressed...trust me, I won't go back to that due to an operating system ;) |
| 02:49.06 | Elgren | You will be that guy that sit and complain at the commentators voice when you watch icehockey |
| 02:49.09 | Gnarfoz | ~botmail Ominous yay, it works fine now :) |
| 02:49.09 | Elgren | pathetic |
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| 02:49.43 | Elgren | ive seen my friend become depressed and bad things has happend |
| 02:50.19 | Elgren | Pkekyo| I hope you can let loose yourself. You will not hate stuff ok? |
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| 02:50.40 | Elgren | Bad things just pass you by. Snap up good stuff and have fun |
| 02:50.44 | Neffi | For no lack of searching, I can't seem to find solid documentation on it.. Does Ace3 offer auto-generated configuration dialogs based on a config table? |
| 02:50.47 | Elgren | thats what u sould train your brain to do |
| 02:50.52 | Elgren | take my word |
| 02:51.06 | Elgren | I go now to bed, hope I have said somethings that are not too stupid |
| 02:51.11 | Neffi | Or do we have to manually do the config dialog? |
| 02:51.19 | Pkekyo| | g'nite Elgren |
| 02:51.27 | Elgren | have fun buddy! |
| 02:51.44 | Elgren | Ima go over roll dice on what girl I shall take off from my friend |
| 02:51.45 | Elgren | hööööööööhöhööhö |
| 02:52.23 | Elgren | he's alot more drunk then I am |
| 02:52.39 | Pkekyo| | then he won't be able to get it up, and you'll get both of them |
| 02:52.49 | Pkekyo| | gl hf |
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| 03:03.29 | Pkekyo| | Not in cruelty, not in wrath, the reaper came today; An angel visited this gray path, and took the cube away. |
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| 03:17.39 | Xinhuan | Today, at 8.15PM server time Sept 8th 2008, I declare my 38th exalted faction: Ravenholdt! |
| 03:19.31 | Ellipsis | grats, nub :P |
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| 03:21.10 | JoshBorke | Xinhuan: grats |
| 03:21.45 | CIA-51 | 03gnarfoz 07WOTLK * r81511 10ClassTimer/Bars/Paladin.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 03:21.45 | CIA-51 | ClassTimer - WotLK - Paladin: |
| 03:21.45 | CIA-51 | - removed Blessing of Light, Blessing of Protection, Blessing of Sacrifice, Blessing of Salvation, Greater Blessing of Light, Greater Blessing of Salvation |
| 03:21.45 | CIA-51 | - removed Judgement of the Crusader |
| 03:21.47 | CIA-51 | - updated Judgement of Wisdon, Judgement of Justice, Jugdement of Light spell IDs |
| 03:21.49 | CIA-51 | - added Hand of Protection, Hand of Sacrifice, Hand of Salvation |
| 03:21.51 | CIA-51 | - added Seal of the Martyr, Seal of Corruption |
| 03:22.56 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: so, still going for DMF, too? so you only need to farm 1 other faction to get the title? ;) |
| 03:23.10 | Xinhuan | DMF will take about 8 months to reach exalted |
| 03:23.17 | Xinhuan | at the rate of 14 completed decks per month |
| 03:23.38 | Xinhuan | from 2500/6000 to exalted requires 104 decks |
| 03:23.51 | Xinhuan | estimated cost about 35k gold |
| 03:24.12 | Xinhuan | so not quite |
| 03:24.21 | Xinhuan | still have to farm 2 factions to get title |
| 03:24.33 | CIA-51 | 03gnarfoz * r81512 10ClassTimer/Bars/Paladin.lua: ClassTimer: add Turn Evil to Paladin spells |
| 03:24.49 | Xinhuan | can reduce number of decks required with 75 rep per fortune quest 4/28 chance of getting them every 2 hours |
| 03:25.02 | Xinhuan | inscription also can form a new rogues deck |
| 03:25.10 | Gnarfoz | rogues deck is not DMF |
| 03:25.11 | Xinhuan | we'll see.. |
| 03:25.30 | Gnarfoz | oh, but it is :X |
| 03:25.34 | Gnarfoz | nvm |
| 03:26.55 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?quest=12517 :( |
| 03:27.38 | JoshBorke | good luck xinhuan |
| 03:27.50 | Xinhuan | it doesn't say how much rep it gives though |
| 03:28.00 | Xinhuan | if any, at all |
| 03:28.18 | Gnarfoz | it says it doesn't give any because it doesn't give any, I guess? ;) |
| 03:29.10 | Xinhuan | so the quest says "requires lvl 57" |
| 03:29.16 | Xinhuan | but it gives a lvl 10 reward? |
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| 03:29.56 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 03:30.04 | Gnarfoz | placeholder of some sorts alright :< |
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| 03:31.52 | Xinhuan | actually |
| 03:32.00 | Xinhuan | i don't think anyone has ever completed the rogues deck quest yet |
| 03:32.07 | Xinhuan | so the "Gains" section is missing |
| 03:32.18 | Xinhuan | where it normally says how much XP you gain |
| 03:32.29 | Xinhuan | and how much rep/gold |
| 03:32.42 | Xinhuan | since darkmoon hasn't arrived on beta yet either |
| 03:33.52 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 03:34.06 | Gnarfoz | if no one had completed it, it wouldn't even show up at their page ;D |
| 03:34.13 | Xinhuan | incorrect |
| 03:34.16 | Gnarfoz | also: the deck summons a "Darkmoon Fortune Teller" |
| 03:34.17 | Xinhuan | people can accept the quest |
| 03:34.30 | Gnarfoz | regardless of if there's currently the Darkmoon Faire event going on |
| 03:34.32 | Xinhuan | the deck summons a darkmoon fortune teller - which summons the quest giver |
| 03:34.39 | Gnarfoz | hence the 3 locations for the Darkmoon Teller NPC in Dalaran :) |
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| 03:35.20 | Xinhuan | the deck summons a darkmoon fortune teller - which summons the quest giver <-- it doesn't actually allow them to complete it i believe |
| 03:35.26 | Xinhuan | until the actual darkmoon arrives |
| 03:35.29 | Gnarfoz | "Use the Rogues Deck to summon a Darkmoon Fortune Teller and give the deck to them. |
| 03:35.32 | Gnarfoz | " |
| 03:35.45 | Xinhuan | well, i'm not inclined to believe the deck gives 0 xp |
| 03:36.21 | Xinhuan | we'll fidn out soon anyway ;p |
| 03:36.22 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I think fortunes are the way you probably should go ^^ |
| 03:36.31 | Gnarfoz | even though it's slow as molasses, too |
| 03:36.41 | Xinhuan | i won't even get 1k rep from fortunes lol |
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| 03:37.06 | Xinhuan | only 1/7 chance of getting one of the quest ones |
| 03:38.01 | CIA-51 | 03next96 07NewDB * r81513 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua: |
| 03:38.01 | CIA-51 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 03:38.01 | CIA-51 | - Update Locale koKR |
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| 03:47.26 | CIA-51 | 03gnarfoz 07WotLK * r81514 10Parrot/Data/ (CombatEvents.lua TriggerConditions.lua): |
| 03:47.26 | CIA-51 | Parrot - WotLK: |
| 03:47.26 | CIA-51 | - fix for CLEU argument change (added "overkill") |
| 03:47.26 | CIA-51 | - fix combo points |
| 03:48.50 | CIA-51 | 03next96 07WotlK * r81515 10Bartender4/locale/koKR.lua: |
| 03:48.50 | CIA-51 | Bartender4: |
| 03:48.50 | CIA-51 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 04:07.29 | Primer | ugh, this GetRealZoneText() is crap |
| 04:08.00 | Primer | Ellipsis: even when I make a frame, and create an OnUpdate handler, GetRealZoneText never changes |
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| 04:30.54 | Fogger | so, if OnInitialize = ADDON_LOADED, what is OnUpdate? |
| 04:30.57 | CIA-51 | 03odlaw * r81516 10MacroBank/ (Locale-zhCN.lua MacroBank.lua): |
| 04:30.57 | CIA-51 | MacroBank: |
| 04:30.58 | CIA-51 | - 3.0 fix |
| 04:31.02 | CIA-51 | - zhCN localization (thanks to wowuicn) |
| 04:31.55 | Fogger | timed that right didnt I! |
| 04:32.22 | CIA-51 | 03odlaw * r81517 10MacroBank/Locales.xml: MacroBank: blah, forgot the locales.xml |
| 04:32.51 | Megalon | Fogger: OnUpdate triggers on every rendered frame of the game |
| 04:34.58 | Fogger | I knew that, really... :P |
| 04:35.39 | Megalon | they all say that afterwards! |
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| 04:36.56 | Fogger | well, in a way I did, through testing it I noticed it fired all the time, but my memory fails me. :) |
| 04:38.14 | Fogger | so would that fire before any other event? |
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| 04:38.26 | Fogger | like OnInitialise etc |
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| 04:39.31 | Fogger | well, would my mods OnUpdate function fire before my mods OnInit? |
| 04:42.24 | Megalon | oh, no clue about that |
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| 04:56.02 | Poul|Raider | 7/26 20:41:17.411 SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x000000000005920F,"Mysticfox",0x512,0xF13000686800C3D5,"Mage Hunter Initiate",0xa48,42832,"Fireball",0x4,29,4,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil |
| 04:56.07 | Poul|Raider | http://www.wowwiki.com/COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_Details |
| 04:56.14 | Poul|Raider | there are some wronge info on that page |
| 04:56.33 | Poul|Raider | _DAMAGE the event dont have the OverKill arg |
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| 05:03.17 | Gnarfoz | Poul|Raider: beta. |
| 05:03.28 | Poul|Raider | ye? |
| 05:03.49 | Poul|Raider | beta aint realy explaining that much :D |
| 05:04.07 | Poul|Raider | the overkill arg are in some of the events and missing in others |
| 05:04.09 | Gnarfoz | yes, it does? |
| 05:05.05 | Arrowmaster | Fogger: no, the first frame draw and thus first OnUpdate is actually one of the very last things to happen in the loading process, infact i think its still the only reliable way of determining if spell info has been updated to reflect the characters talents |
| 05:05.16 | Poul|Raider | Gnarfoz, care to explain? |
| 05:05.24 | Gnarfoz | what should I explain? |
| 05:05.36 | Gnarfoz | there's a new arg in beta, called overkill |
| 05:05.42 | Gnarfoz | it's between amount and school |
| 05:05.44 | Poul|Raider | but how does it work. |
| 05:05.50 | Poul|Raider | its not there on all events |
| 05:05.57 | Poul|Raider | its a beta log im browsing |
| 05:06.06 | Arrowmaster | its beta? |
| 05:06.11 | Arrowmaster | things arent finished...... |
| 05:06.16 | Gnarfoz | blah blah Arrowmaster |
| 05:06.21 | Gnarfoz | it's not on all events, he's right |
| 05:06.23 | Fogger | Arrowmaster: thing is, I'm getting a savedvar=nil error from my onupdate, the savedvar is declared in OnInit |
| 05:06.32 | Gnarfoz | because overkill doesn't make sense on some events? |
| 05:06.36 | Poul|Raider | well |
| 05:06.48 | Gnarfoz | just check a diff |
| 05:06.49 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 05:06.49 | Poul|Raider | reading the http://www.wowwiki.com/COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_Details |
| 05:07.09 | Poul|Raider | i get the impression its on every _DAMAGE events |
| 05:07.11 | Gnarfoz | since when is WoWWiki up to date? |
| 05:07.24 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 05:07.33 | Poul|Raider | so you dont know anything about if its intented only to be on some or its just not finished ? |
| 05:07.45 | Arrowmaster | Fogger: well just to be safe you could hide the frame when its created so the onupdate doesnt fire, and then show it in your oninit directly after setting the saved var |
| 05:08.03 | Gnarfoz | Poul|Raider: ... |
| 05:08.07 | Gnarfoz | which events are you missing it on? |
| 05:08.17 | Poul|Raider | 7/26 20:41:24.426 SPELL_DAMAGE,0x0000000000059398,"Empyrea",0x512,0xF13000686800C3D3,"Mage Hunter Initiate",0xa48,27088,"Frost Nova",0x10,528,16,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil |
| 05:08.19 | Poul|Raider | this one etc |
| 05:08.23 | Gnarfoz | etc? |
| 05:08.29 | Gnarfoz | etc what :p |
| 05:08.39 | Poul|Raider | well do you see the overkill argument.... |
| 05:08.46 | Fogger | Arrowmaster: thanks, I'll try that :) |
| 05:08.58 | Gnarfoz | etc means 'et ceterae' -> 'and others' - what others :D |
| 05:09.42 | Poul|Raider | why dont you go back to sleep for a few more hours. |
| 05:09.42 | Gnarfoz | ah, also |
| 05:09.50 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 05:10.09 | Gnarfoz | why don't you stick to the topic? |
| 05:10.24 | Poul|Raider | im asking a question and all you doing is sitting there beeing a jerk |
| 05:10.30 | Gnarfoz | uhm no? |
| 05:10.31 | Gnarfoz | I'm not |
| 05:11.41 | Gnarfoz | I have so far pointed out to you that: WoWWiki can't be trusted to have accurate, complete or up to date information, confirmed to you that indeed it's not there on all events (i.e. you're not imagining it), and because you didn't really say much besides "there's something wrong" tried to establish what the problem is ;) |
| 05:11.43 | Poul|Raider | Thing is my parser broke down on the logs from wotlk, then i find out about the overkill argument, but its just not there on all the events and im wondering if they are coming or its intented as it is now |
| 05:11.53 | Gnarfoz | I think it's as it is now |
| 05:12.00 | Gnarfoz | because it's overKILL not overDAMAGE :) |
| 05:12.12 | Gnarfoz | so it's probably really only on events where something is killed? :\ |
| 05:12.19 | Gnarfoz | sounds sane to me^^ |
| 05:12.23 | Poul|Raider | yes |
| 05:12.52 | Gnarfoz | thus, those events where it appears should be pretty close to UNIT_DIED |
| 05:12.53 | Poul|Raider | thats also my conclusion, but on the otherhand thats not realy that smart for parsers as you then need to check how many arguments there are and not just the event. |
| 05:12.57 | Poul|Raider | ye |
| 05:13.20 | Gnarfoz | indeed, didn't think of it that way yet |
| 05:13.43 | Gnarfoz | grayhoof fixed his EavesDrop, but I don't think he made accommodations for that |
| 05:13.46 | Gnarfoz | but it works? :D |
| 05:14.10 | Gnarfoz | also, blizz also didn't :< |
| 05:14.35 | Poul|Raider | I got expections when running on a new log, then when i fixed it for the overkill i still got expections, and i just found out now that they just dont have the overkill. |
| 05:14.53 | Poul|Raider | And its properly because overkill is only there when something dies |
| 05:15.10 | Poul|Raider | but anyway, it sucks that i need to check lengt of the arguements to see if thats the case |
| 05:15.15 | Poul|Raider | Dont realy think its intented that way |
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| 05:15.53 | Gnarfoz | heh, this might mean that I broke the WotLK branch of Parrot earlier ;D |
| 05:16.01 | Fogger | could I put LocInfo:Hide(); LocInfo:OnUpdate(); LocInfo:Show(); in XML <OnUpdate>? |
| 05:16.39 | Gnarfoz | oO why? |
| 05:17.10 | Fogger | mm, yeah, now I think about it :P |
| 05:17.22 | Poul|Raider | Gnarfoz, just checked on a mob right before it died and theres no overkill argument there either |
| 05:17.23 | Fogger | wouldnt change a damn thing would it? :) |
| 05:17.29 | CIA-51 | 03nikkodemus * r81518 10Acheron/ (Acheron.lua Display.lua Locales/Locale-zhCN.lua): |
| 05:17.29 | CIA-51 | Acheron: |
| 05:17.29 | CIA-51 | - by popular demand, restore right-click menu option for viewing death reports |
| 05:17.38 | Poul|Raider | so now im wondering wtf the overkill is for |
| 05:20.10 | Lukian | pokes Poul|Raider |
| 05:20.23 | Lukian | you really should use highlights in your IRC client :p |
| 05:20.35 | Poul|Raider | well sorry! |
| 05:20.40 | Lukian | :D |
| 05:20.55 | Poul|Raider | but we just talked about it here |
| 05:21.21 | Poul|Raider | and if it is bugged someone should report it :D |
| 05:21.32 | Poul|Raider | reporting on EU forums lead nowhere |
| 05:22.52 | Gnarfoz | Poul|Raider: well :\ http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/overkill.jpg it works in the default combat log, at least |
| 05:23.49 | Poul|Raider | but, do that mean they do the check on the lenght of the arguments :D |
| 05:23.53 | Poul|Raider | not a good solution |
| 05:24.41 | Gnarfoz | they don't |
| 05:24.49 | Poul|Raider | then i just dont get it :( |
| 05:25.00 | Gnarfoz | they don't use CLEU anyway |
| 05:25.03 | Gnarfoz | they use CLE |
| 05:25.08 | Poul|Raider | 9/6 00:13:37.642 SPELL_DAMAGE,0x000000000005E276,"Reedu",0x512,0xF130003A21012875,"Spider",0xa28,51411,"Howling Blast",0x10,452,444,16,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil |
| 05:25.12 | Poul|Raider | there its present. |
| 05:26.37 | Gnarfoz | so? |
| 05:27.23 | Poul|Raider | im where i started .D Cant see the idea of it only beeing present sometimes |
| 05:27.38 | Poul|Raider | Hmm |
| 05:27.50 | Poul|Raider | Its somewhat linked to a PARTY_KILL |
| 05:28.41 | Gnarfoz | I'm just saying: I simply added it to all lines in Parrot that previously had school, amount, blocked after amount. |
| 05:28.44 | Gnarfoz | and it works? :X |
| 05:29.09 | Poul|Raider | well i can easy find a line where thats not the case |
| 05:29.55 | Poul|Raider | but well, im just gonna do a check on the amount of arguements |
| 05:29.58 | Elgren | Pkekyo| |
| 05:30.00 | Poul|Raider | arguements |
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| 05:34.46 | orionshock | Tekkub: re: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14948.msg241134#msg241134 ; if i may bother you, what did you have in mind for a common method? |
| 05:34.58 | Poul|Raider | _MISSEDmissTypeamountMissed Amountmissed arent present either it seams. |
| 05:35.14 | Gnarfoz | are you still going by what's on WoWWiki? :D |
| 05:35.24 | Tekkub | dunno, probably caching other people's links, a request and response on the addon channel |
| 05:35.40 | Tekkub | keeping track of the build since the links are build-specific really |
| 05:36.24 | orionshock | true, have we anything to disassemble the links yet? ... is there something we can use to even open the link? |
| 05:36.36 | Tekkub | yes |
| 05:36.45 | orionshock | o.O |
| 05:36.48 | orionshock | share? :D |
| 05:37.08 | Tekkub | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10316-TradeLinks.html |
| 05:37.12 | orionshock | i know whats in the FrameXML, but last time i checked it wasn't much |
| 05:37.22 | Tekkub | talk to Moldy, I'm sure we can pull that out to a lib |
| 05:37.42 | Tekkub | he's got a script to mine the data we need out of the client |
| 05:37.50 | Tekkub | after a patch |
| 05:38.51 | Poul|Raider | Gnarfoz, naa i stoped that now and started reading the log my self to see what arguments :D |
| 05:39.10 | Poul|Raider | but it parsed the log now when checking the length |
| 05:39.15 | Poul|Raider | so its fine again |
| 05:41.35 | Gnarfoz | your log is weird, btw :X |
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| 05:42.40 | orionshock | Tekkub: ok, i'll admit i don't understand the math. But if i follow the huristics correctly, i'll be able to downsize my own addon's DB by half |
| 05:44.04 | orionshock | this is fking awesome :D and yes i would support a lib or other method for common sharing. |
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| 05:52.42 | Gnarfoz | Poul|Raider: your log is weird indeed :< mine has overkill everywhere: http://ace.pastey.net/95566 |
| 05:53.22 | Poul|Raider | It might be related to party stuff, because i got the log from the naxx raid vis major did |
| 05:53.31 | Poul|Raider | and i see the overkill neer party kills etc |
| 05:53.41 | Poul|Raider | so might be you only see overkill for party members |
| 05:53.42 | Poul|Raider | dont know |
| 05:55.19 | Gnarfoz | need someone with an US account to ask, I guess ^^ |
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| 05:56.21 | Gnarfoz | also, who is that log from? |
| 05:56.31 | Gnarfoz | you can easily check who was in whose party here: http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/september/kt25beta.jpg ;p |
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| 06:00.35 | Poul|Raider | i just searched for party_Kill in the log and every _Damage before that had overkill |
| 06:00.40 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: no, the data is directly parsed from the map functions in game, hard edges happen |
| 06:00.45 | Poul|Raider | dont remember who did the log |
| 06:01.29 | Poul|Raider | but Gnarfoz, im just leaving it like this now, dont need the overkill info for now, so just checking how many args there are. |
| 06:01.34 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: hm, meh :\ so it's not because it needs an update for 8905? :\ why do the normal blizz "hiding" overlays work then? :D |
| 06:02.35 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: any particular zone? |
| 06:02.46 | Gnarfoz | Poul|Raider: yeah, if I wasn't due to leave in about 2 hours (never mind that I originally wanted to *sleep* before that), I'd confirm that theory - should be easy enough. invite someone to a group, make it a raid, make that someone kill a mob, move him to another group, make him kill another mob |
| 06:03.10 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: dragonblight, bottom middle side, vertically accross the coast |
| 06:03.26 | Poul|Raider | ye, would check up on it myself if it was important for me, it is not right atleast :) |
| 06:03.32 | nevcairiel | oh yeah i get that too |
| 06:03.34 | nevcairiel | some squre |
| 06:03.37 | nevcairiel | *square |
| 06:03.38 | Poul|Raider | i just need to make a quick parser to make a dmgmeter from a log etc |
| 06:03.41 | Gnarfoz | yeah weird :\ |
| 06:03.43 | Poul|Raider | so not realy a big thing |
| 06:04.04 | Poul|Raider | Only need to write the part that sums up dmg done for each player and its done |
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| 06:04.23 | Gnarfoz | recount ftw <3 |
| 06:04.44 | Gnarfoz | it should be able to process logs that you inject through SVs. :D |
| 06:04.57 | Gnarfoz | that'd be awesome ^^ |
| 06:12.05 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i think they removed one map segment from the map that Mapster still tried to draw |
| 06:12.16 | Gnarfoz | yay |
| 06:13.53 | CIA-51 | 03nevcairiel 07WotLK * r81519 10Mapster/FogClear.lua: Mapster: re-parse of full FogClear Data for latest build |
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| 06:14.04 | nevcairiel | if oyu still get weird stuff, empty your SV |
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| 06:15.14 | nevcairiel | I should probably add a button in the config to reset the saved values of the fog clear data |
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| 06:20.59 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: uhm so you're saying it learns on it's own, too? |
| 06:21.10 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 06:21.14 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: and not simply uses the provided (i.e. your) data |
| 06:21.43 | nevcairiel | usually existing data never changes |
| 06:21.46 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I see that that would make sense then, if it doesn't have some kind of mechanism to know if your data may be newer |
| 06:21.46 | nevcairiel | only new data is added |
| 06:21.58 | nevcairiel | except in beta, of course |
| 06:22.13 | Gnarfoz | ah, so if I uncover a map segment, it checks if it doesn't have it |
| 06:22.37 | Gnarfoz | omg srsly, no sleep for me today, lol |
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| 06:22.42 | Gnarfoz | I suck so bad at planning ahead |
| 06:22.46 | Gnarfoz | it's frightening. |
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| 06:23.36 | CIA-51 | 03Allara 07WotLK * r81520 10HitsMode/ (Changes.txt HitsMode.lua Locales/HitsMode.enUS.lua): HitsMode: - More WotLK updates |
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| 06:28.14 | CIA-51 | 03nevcairiel 07WotLK * r81521 10Mapster/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Mapster: add a reset-own-data button to fogclear module |
| 06:28.38 | Wraithan | Mapster? is that like Cart? |
| 06:28.46 | Gnarfoz | somewhat. |
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| 06:29.15 | Gnarfoz | someone's probably going to say "yes, but with less bloat" but that's stupid, of course ;p |
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| 06:30.02 | Wobin | more recent map addon |
| 06:32.24 | Wraithan | I thought Cart3 was going to be the cool thing in Wotlk |
| 06:32.45 | Wraithan | does it do that waypoint think like cart? |
| 06:32.50 | Wraithan | er, well I guess I could just go look it up |
| 06:33.46 | Gnarfoz | Wraithan: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8306-Mapster.html |
| 06:34.02 | Gnarfoz | no, it doesn't, but other addons do =) |
| 06:35.05 | Wraithan | Gnarfoz: a fan of KISS? |
| 06:35.12 | NeoTron | so I'm sitting out on our first night on KJ |
| 06:35.41 | NeoTron | I am.. unable to take people making stupid mistakes. it might not be M'uru but I think M'uru burned me out as a raid leader |
| 06:35.42 | Gnarfoz | Wraithan: not particularily, how'd you figure that? ;D |
| 06:35.54 | Wraithan | Keep it simple stupid |
| 06:36.07 | Wraithan | not the band |
| 06:36.07 | Gnarfoz | oh well, I was thinking of the band, lol |
| 06:36.25 | Wraithan | KISS's main thing is do one thing and do it well |
| 06:36.55 | Gnarfoz | yeah, but there's no denying that several if not all of the bundled Cart modules do that, as well, imho :D |
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| 06:37.46 | Gnarfoz | anyway, arrrgh gotta start packing and stuff. luckily the route is simple and I don't have to leave in the evening, so being up 24 hours early in the evening won't be that much of a problem ;X |
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| 06:50.59 | jska | who know why |
| 06:55.08 | Primer | What's the proper way to terminate a frame:SetScript()? |
| 06:55.40 | Elkano | terminate in which senese? |
| 06:56.03 | Primer | seems I need to set it to nil |
| 06:56.18 | Primer | I have an OnUpdate, and under some conditions, I'd like that OnUpdate to stop |
| 06:56.44 | jska | who know why my ace multithreading program block in "ACE_Reactor::instance()->register_handler()" ? |
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| 06:59.48 | Elkano | Primer, yeah, just nil it to remove it |
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| 07:02.25 | nevcairiel | jska: I think you have the wrong Ace here |
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| 07:07.19 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 07:07.24 | Gnarfoz | http://www.ohloh.net/projects/search?q=ace sounds like the topmost one |
| 07:07.36 | Gnarfoz | this here is the second one from the top ;) |
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| 07:23.34 | clad|sleep | Wow.. how does Mikma have more commits than I do |
| 07:23.35 | clad|sleep | lol |
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| 07:29.20 | thul | HOLD ON BITCHES |
| 07:29.49 | Lyn | lol |
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| 08:39.42 | thul | http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs36/i/2008/251/8/6/Smile_by_lizabeth_michelle.jpg <- big tits are big |
| 08:40.41 | Megalon | big tits ain't a failure! |
| 08:43.13 | thul | http://www.doorhof.nl/glamnude/albums/userpics/10001/Roosmarijn_6_September_2008_(40_of_45).jpg <- I think that is the ultimate female body |
| 08:45.56 | CIA-51 | 03adirelle * r81522 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (13 files in 8 dirs): SimpleSelfRebuff: moved back all libraries to the core and simplified the loading process (less intermediate .xml files). |
| 08:45.56 | Megalon | so it has to be a picture of alizée! |
| 08:47.45 | Adirelle|work | thul: boobs seem fake |
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| 08:53.50 | sylvanaar | Adirelle|work what did you simplify |
| 08:55.08 | CIA-51 | 03elkano 07WotLK * r81523 10ElkBuffBars/ElkBuffBars.lua: ElkBuffBars: this is working again with 8905 /cheer |
| 08:55.16 | Zyndrome | http://www.gamegrep.com/news/13045-boy_accidently_kills_himself_trying_to_imitate_halo/ |
| 08:55.24 | Zyndrome | a candidate for a Darwin award |
| 08:56.43 | Adirelle|work | sylvanaar: I had "module.xml" in each module directories |
| 08:56.51 | Adirelle|work | e.g. Reminder.xml in Reminder\ |
| 08:57.04 | sylvanaar | o |
| 08:57.07 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 08:57.21 | Adirelle|work | I included them both from the core modules.xml and the SimpleSelfRebuff_module.toc |
| 08:57.36 | Adirelle|work | my idea was to have a centralized file to keep all the inclusions |
| 08:57.53 | sylvanaar | i think we think alike |
| 08:58.20 | Adirelle|work | but since I put the libs back into the core (in case of having several modules using the same libs) this isn't needed anymore |
| 08:58.38 | Megalon | Zyndrome: lol, the 11y old halo player shot himself while skipping school hi@parents :C |
| 08:59.18 | sylvanaar | thats how prat3 is, if it has Prat-3.0_* addons, they contain nothing |
| 08:59.45 | sylvanaar | just point the the file in Prat-3.0 folder |
| 09:00.09 | sylvanaar | best part is when updating - you dont have to update them |
| 09:00.19 | thul | http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs33/i/2008/244/5/2/hidden_by_saturdaynight23.jpg <- moar titties |
| 09:00.45 | Zyndrome | "art" |
| 09:01.09 | thul | haha, yeah :-D art |
| 09:01.12 | Megalon | thul, the deviantart crawler :P |
| 09:01.44 | Fisker- | >:3? |
| 09:01.51 | thul | yeah, that is me :-D |
| 09:01.59 | thul | for the record, my pics on DA are much nicer:P |
| 09:02.03 | dodga | thul: Nice boobies :> |
| 09:02.04 | Megalon | i have no problem with calling something art when boobies are involved :P |
| 09:02.15 | Fisker- | destroys thul |
| 09:02.17 | dodga | I'd post the "moar" birdie if I had the pic ATM :> |
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| 09:03.35 | thul | http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs37/i/2008/251/3/6/mill___time___by_saturdaynight23.jpg <- moar for you :-P |
| 09:04.33 | dodga | Nice carpet :> |
| 09:04.46 | Fisker- | noms dodga |
| 09:05.12 | dodga | noooo |
| 09:05.36 | dodga | I need a Unnomable Potion |
| 09:05.40 | Adirelle|work | sylvanaar: actually the modules contain the source so you have to update them |
| 09:06.09 | Fisker- | i need to destroy people |
| 09:06.15 | Stanzilla | thul: http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs36/f/2008/251/c/d/Reflection_by_emilyaddison.jpg imo |
| 09:06.18 | Lyn | fisker, go play spore. |
| 09:06.26 | Adirelle|work | but they don't contain the libs, so they could be shared by several modules |
| 09:06.27 | sylvanaar | Adirelle|work hm? they dont have to though |
| 09:07.02 | Fisker- | why is nude women art again? |
| 09:07.14 | sylvanaar | Adirelle|work look at Prat3's Prat-3.0_Debug or Prat-3.0_HighCPUUsageModules |
| 09:07.20 | Lyn | why not |
| 09:07.23 | CIA-51 | 03pettigrow 07WotLK * r81524 10Mapster/ (Libs/ Locale/frFR.lua): |
| 09:07.23 | CIA-51 | Mapster: |
| 09:07.23 | CIA-51 | - frFR Update |
| 09:07.23 | CIA-51 | - Updated externals |
| 09:07.58 | Adirelle|work | puts deviantart.com in the list of its "use the SSH tunnel ffs" list |
| 09:08.14 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 09:08.24 | Fisker- | reports Adirelle|work for not working |
| 09:08.39 | CIA-51 | 03pettigrow * r81525 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Felmyst.lua: BigWigs: frFR Update |
| 09:09.29 | sylvanaar | Adirelle|work acually, prat's are called "pullouts" since that's all you do with em. |
| 09:10.01 | Adirelle|work | sylvanaar: how do you handle not including them from the core once they have been pulled out ? |
| 09:10.08 | Adirelle|work | wait |
| 09:10.10 | Adirelle|work | I'll look the code |
| 09:10.33 | sylvanaar | these actually dont load unless pulled out |
| 09:10.36 | Geniack | WHUT?? |
| 09:10.44 | Geniack | what does my girlfriend doing in here? |
| 09:10.58 | [SW]Dodge | Geniack: what do you here? :P |
| 09:11.07 | Geniack | i am not sure yet |
| 09:11.11 | Geniack | what 'bout u? |
| 09:11.26 | Thrae | Adirelle|work: If you're looking for code like that, TinyTip can use its modules either internally or externally. |
| 09:11.32 | FinalX | lol, just looked at the url's, gf sitting behind me "looking at porn that early? tsk" |
| 09:11.37 | [SW]Dodge | Geniack: i'm a developer of a wow addon. you dont even play wow :P |
| 09:11.38 | sylvanaar | but, to answer your question, we have always used modules.xml in the addons root |
| 09:11.51 | Geniack | i play wow! |
| 09:11.54 | thul | This was mainly a video shoot for a movie I made but I took some stills in between filming as well for the website about 4 years back. I custom made the suit to fit the model. She is supposed to be a futuristic female cyborg warrior charged with protecting humans on a remote outpost in space from alien predators |
| 09:11.55 | Geniack | man.. =/ |
| 09:11.58 | Adirelle|work | this is what I've done with SSR |
| 09:12.00 | thul | ffs |
| 09:12.01 | thul | people need help:P |
| 09:12.02 | Geniack | u just dont know i am an addict |
| 09:12.02 | thul | HALP |
| 09:12.05 | thul | http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs36/f/2008/251/2/6/Commando_02_by_LatexImage.jpg |
| 09:12.07 | sylvanaar | wau and other updaters will empty out those references if your addon gets unpacked |
| 09:12.13 | Adirelle|work | but I'm don't what happen when it is not removed by WAU |
| 09:12.14 | Kalroth | FinalX: You should tell her it's only because you don't get enough in bed! |
| 09:12.19 | Adirelle|work | e.g. "by hand" |
| 09:12.19 | [SW]Dodge | thul: lol nice :D |
| 09:12.27 | Geniack | http://www.modern-savage.com/body_mods/images/tongue3.jpg |
| 09:12.29 | Kalroth | FinalX: (oh and make sure the couch is comfy) |
| 09:12.30 | [SW]Dodge | Geniack: http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs36/f/2008/251/2/6/Commando_02_by_LatexImage.jpg <- thats your GF right?^^ |
| 09:12.37 | sylvanaar | it only happens when it is |
| 09:12.38 | FinalX | oh, our couch _is_ comfy :P |
| 09:12.49 | Kalroth | haha |
| 09:12.53 | sylvanaar | if unpacked, then empty modules.xml |
| 09:12.57 | FinalX | Geniack: ew ;P |
| 09:13.10 | Geniack | :) |
| 09:13.20 | Geniack | FinalX: like to go with me and have something like this? |
| 09:13.25 | sylvanaar | otherwise modules.xml connects up your modules which havent been unpacked |
| 09:13.32 | Adirelle|work | Thrae: tinytip modules on SVN trunk is empty ? |
| 09:13.38 | Fisker- | om nom noms sylvanaar |
| 09:14.06 | sylvanaar | hey, it works lol |
| 09:14.29 | Thrae | Adirelle|work: That's because all modules are developed separately, so the modules directory is just a bunch of externals. When you check out TinyTip with externals, it populates the modules directory and uses the modules internally in-game. |
| 09:14.45 | Adirelle|work | oh... |
| 09:15.00 | FinalX | no thanks :P |
| 09:15.58 | Thrae | Adirelle|work: The way its coded, you should never check out TinyTip without externals. Just copying a module's directory to the main Addons directory makes the module external, and the internal module is not loaded. |
| 09:16.26 | Thrae | It doesn't rely on anything like WAU's special install tricks, etc. |
| 09:16.59 | nevcairiel | I only use TTBasic and TTPositioning, who needs a core |
| 09:17.22 | Adirelle|work | actually I'm trying to do the same with SSR |
| 09:17.39 | Adirelle|work | ATM, if you unpack the modules by hand, the modules.xml just try to load file that doesn't exist |
| 09:17.44 | Xinhuan | Adirelle|work, one of the commits i saw has "52 files in 12 directories" |
| 09:17.46 | Adirelle|work | but they load anyway |
| 09:17.51 | Xinhuan | that doesn't make SSR simple anymore! |
| 09:17.57 | Adirelle|work | Xinhuan: huh ? |
| 09:18.11 | [Ammo] | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:18.16 | Xinhuan | Ace: adirelle * r81494 SimpleSelfRebuff/ (51 files in 12 dirs): SimpleSelfRebuff: merged Ace3 branch into trunk. |
| 09:18.32 | nevcairiel | 51 files? and you dare to call it simple? |
| 09:18.38 | Thrae | All modules can actually work independantly of each other, to a point. They are all their own addons. The idea is to give this functionality without adding signifigant overhead. |
| 09:18.50 | Stanzilla | blasphemy! |
| 09:19.03 | Adirelle|work | Xinhuan: moved files are counted twice |
| 09:19.16 | Xinhuan | ok so 25 files in 6 directories..? :D |
| 09:19.43 | Adirelle|work | some files are 30 lines long |
| 09:19.52 | Adirelle|work | e.g. all classes buff are in their own files |
| 09:20.09 | Adirelle|work | I keep them separated for my own sanity |
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| 09:21.26 | Adirelle|work | now adds the licence.txt, readme.html and the files for WAU and modules (embeds.xml, modules.xml, filelist.wau), you I think you can easily reach 25 files |
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| 09:22.08 | nevcairiel | I still bet you its not simple =P |
| 09:22.10 | [SW]Dodge | someone knows if the feature where a friend i put to wow can give me +level also will work 70-80? xD |
| 09:22.21 | Adirelle|work | nevcairiel: from an user point of view, it is |
| 09:22.33 | nevcairiel | [SW]Dodge: only works up to 60 |
| 09:22.34 | Xinhuan | +lvl only works till level 59.99 |
| 09:22.42 | [SW]Dodge | damn xD |
| 09:23.35 | [SW]Dodge | nevcairiel: it is simple. you can check which buffs should come and when they should becom rebuffed :D |
| 09:23.56 | [SW]Dodge | like 30sek before expiration |
| 09:24.29 | [SW]Dodge | and what i like is that it does not dismount if a buff fades while mounted, or with shapeshift :D |
| 09:24.32 | Adirelle|work | I'm only introducing modules so that people that do not like certain features could remove them |
| 09:25.10 | Adirelle|work | e.g. I heard that some people don't like the LDB plugin, so it becomes a module |
| 09:25.29 | Adirelle|work | others don't like the reminder |
| 09:25.52 | nevcairiel | its usually just easier to wrap it in a "if" rather then a module =P |
| 09:26.10 | Adirelle|work | LDB is a corner case |
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| 09:26.17 | [SW]Dodge | Adirelle|work: resize the frame to http://dodgex.servegame.com/ssr.jpg it looks nicer than with defualt size =) =) |
| 09:26.40 | Stanzilla | [SW]Dodge: the title looks nice, indeed! |
| 09:27.22 | Xinhuan | well, i don't really like it when people make modules that are so small it really should have just been an on/off option in a bigger module.. that's just a personal opinion |
| 09:27.25 | [SW]Dodge | Stanzilla: the title will look not better if the widht is higher ^^ |
| 09:27.33 | Stanzilla | I know :P |
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| 09:28.04 | FinalX | [SW]Dodge: I'm sad, I tried clicking the Close button on that pic in my browser >.< |
| 09:28.08 | FinalX | need caffeine.. brb. |
| 09:28.23 | [SW]Dodge | FinalX: lol :D |
| 09:28.55 | Adirelle|work | why do I always have the feeling of being in front of a justice court here and have to justify every decision I take about *my* addons ? |
| 09:29.14 | FinalX | because we are? |
| 09:29.15 | FinalX | :P |
| 09:29.24 | vhaarr | because that's what a community is for, if you don't want that then you should take your business somewhere else |
| 09:29.33 | sylvanaar | Adirelle|work because you listen to nevcairiel |
| 09:29.50 | nevcairiel | I said 5 lines in the last half hour, shush |
| 09:29.56 | sylvanaar | not to me |
| 09:30.00 | FinalX | Xinhuan: I kinda disagree with you there mate, what if you only very specific features of that big addon? rest of the memory / load times are a waste then |
| 09:30.25 | [SW]Dodge | Adirelle|work: i just did a suggestion, if you dont like my idea then just ignore it :) (but still i think it will look nicer if the frame is smaller :P |
| 09:30.25 | Xinhuan | FinalX: modules are ALL loaded whether you use them or not, unless disembedded into their own addon in the own addon folder |
| 09:30.36 | Adirelle|work | nevcairiel: I'm talking about the 30 last minutes, but the last 4 weeks |
| 09:30.36 | sylvanaar | you need to understand what makes loading slow |
| 09:30.46 | Kalroth | Adirelle|work: Don't share *your* addons if you don't want peoples opinion, it's the only way to avoid it. :) |
| 09:30.47 | Adirelle|work | s/talking/not talking/ |
| 09:30.56 | Xinhuan | and what makes loading slow is multiple file i/o operations, the more files, the longer it takes |
| 09:30.59 | FinalX | Xinhuan: oh, modules like that. ok, you're right then :) |
| 09:31.01 | Xinhuan | adjusted by file sizes of course |
| 09:31.01 | sylvanaar | its not how much code there is, but how much of it is run at load tiem |
| 09:31.12 | Xinhuan | so 1 file of 100 kb will load faster than 10 files of 10 kb |
| 09:31.21 | sylvanaar | thats right |
| 09:31.25 | Adirelle|work | [SW]Dodge: I'm not speaking about you |
| 09:31.31 | sylvanaar | and multiple files in the same directory will |
| 09:31.43 | [SW]Dodge | Adirelle|work: okay :) |
| 09:31.43 | FinalX | ofcourse, I'm not talking about it in that way. |
| 09:31.52 | nevcairiel | and vhaarr is right, if you dont want any suggestions, dont come here |
| 09:32.00 | Kalroth | Adirelle|work: You can add a "IM NOT GOING TO CHANGE IT FOR ANYONE" to the download of your addon and people will still ask for changes and/or tell you how you should change it. :) |
| 09:32.15 | FinalX | Xinhuan: kinda read your statement as "i dont really like it when people make addons that are so small it really should have just been an on/off option in a bigger addon.." |
| 09:32.17 | Adirelle|work | Kalroth: actually some people gives their opinion in gentle manner, like in "you could do this this way" or "looks at how it is done in this addon" |
| 09:32.17 | sylvanaar | and separate addons create a new point that blizzard has to read the toc, parse it, and then walk through the files to see if they exist |
| 09:32.43 | Adirelle|work | Kalroth: and other people just come and say "you made it wrong, that's a piece of shit, you should have done this this way" |
| 09:33.02 | Kalroth | Adirelle|work: Gentle is a very relative term though. What you find annoying might seem gentle to an asshole. :) |
| 09:34.09 | Kalroth | Welcome the internet, we've got everything out here! If you don't like that, then don't publish your addons. Alternatively you can just filter those you don't like for whatever reason. |
| 09:34.12 | sylvanaar | Adirelle|work I have been dealing with some of the same issues for a long time, 1) you can never win 2) see 1 |
| 09:34.18 | sylvanaar | ~numberofplayers0 |
| 09:34.23 | purl | numberofplayers0 is probably Strange game. The only winning move is not to play. - WOPR |
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| 09:34.51 | Adirelle|work | ^^ |
| 09:35.24 | sylvanaar | Adirelle|work i even just made a thread that FinalX is quoting from |
| 09:35.25 | Kalroth | I'm sure you can find people critizing a Hello World addon in Lua |
| 09:35.29 | Kalroth | (or LUA for krka!) |
| 09:35.38 | sylvanaar | Adirelle|work have you seen it? |
| 09:35.50 | FinalX | huh? thread? quoting from? |
| 09:35.54 | FinalX | I'm quoting from IRC |
| 09:36.04 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 09:36.22 | FinalX | 11:27:22 < Xinhuan> well, i don't really like it when people make modules that are so small it really should have just been an on/off option in a bigger module.. that's just a personal opinion |
| 09:36.23 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14925.0 |
| 09:36.27 | FinalX | ^ that :P |
| 09:36.56 | sylvanaar | "Some submodules end up just being a single on/off checkbox with nothing more to it, and making a single option into a single module sounds excessive. |
| 09:37.05 | sylvanaar | similar |
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| 09:38.34 | sylvanaar | slow loading is usually caused by work being done during the main chunck load, or OnInitialize |
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| 09:39.28 | Adirelle|work | I may reconsider the LDB module |
| 09:39.48 | sylvanaar | and you dont need load on demand to support optional loading |
| 09:39.56 | NM|Xinhuan | Adirelle|work, i did say earlier its a personal opinion |
| 09:40.28 | sylvanaar | i agree with you xin - on many levels |
| 09:40.28 | Adirelle|work | though I'd keep it in a seperate file anyway, I find sources easier to manage when they are of moderate size |
| 09:40.50 | sylvanaar | I made a thread about that too |
| 09:40.52 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 09:41.24 | Adirelle|work | sylvanaar: ? |
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| 09:42.01 | sylvanaar | ill link it |
| 09:42.28 | Adirelle|work | but... I'm planning to put the item buffing part in its own module because its uses PT3 sets |
| 09:43.18 | Adirelle|work | so you can just disable it (and PT3) if you don't use the item buffs |
| 09:43.28 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 09:43.47 | sylvanaar | unless they are embedded |
| 09:43.57 | Adirelle|work | yes... |
| 09:45.16 | Adirelle|work | unless I release it as a standalone addon |
| 09:45.29 | Adirelle|work | what I want to avoid |
| 09:45.43 | sylvanaar | did you see how i suggested doing it in that thread |
| 09:45.55 | sylvanaar | its an alternative |
| 09:46.22 | Adirelle|work | empty pullouts ? |
| 09:47.18 | thul | are we talking about sex? |
| 09:47.44 | Adirelle|work | thul: no, go back watching your soft pron on deviantart.com ! :p |
| 09:47.45 | sylvanaar | well that thread is mostly about how to get load on demand like functionality without using external modules |
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| 09:48.13 | Adirelle|work | sylvanaar: this first one you linked or the second you didn't ? ^^ |
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| 09:48.28 | sylvanaar | i can find the 2nd, the first |
| 09:48.37 | sylvanaar | my post is the tldnr one |
| 09:49.09 | thul | Adirelle|work: I'm reading law right now :/ |
| 09:49.10 | thul | lawpr0n |
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| 09:50.52 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14475.0 second |
| 09:53.36 | sylvanaar | by the way - there isnt much difference between libraries and modules when you look at certain aspects of them |
| 09:54.50 | Adirelle|work | modules depend on a single core, libraries are depended on by several addons |
| 09:55.18 | sylvanaar | right but funalmentally thats about it |
| 09:55.40 | sylvanaar | when you include modules in your addon, they are "embedded" |
| 09:56.17 | sylvanaar | when they are external, then they are "standalone" |
| 09:56.42 | sylvanaar | they have structuaral and operational similarities |
| 09:57.58 | sylvanaar | ive been fussing over this issue for along time - no way to win |
| 10:01.15 | sylvanaar | thul law stuff |
| 10:01.47 | sylvanaar | thul want to help me sue my former attorney... |
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| 10:06.32 | thul | sylvanaar: well, that depends on what the issue is about, what jurisdiction it is in and such :-P |
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| 10:13.26 | orionshock | Maldivia: ping |
| 10:18.15 | thul | sylvanaar: if it is US law, you have to wait till I get more international experience :-P |
| 10:19.24 | cncfanatics | mmmm, anyone can suggest a good linux destro for a laptop ? I'm getting very anoyed with this debian |
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| 10:20.10 | thul | cncfanatics: debian, kubuntu, ubuntu, slackware, tinylinux? :-P |
| 10:20.29 | nevcairiel | gentoo! |
| 10:20.31 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 10:20.40 | nevcairiel | just use one of the ubuntu clones |
| 10:20.50 | Wraithan | archlinux |
| 10:20.52 | cncfanatics | I don't like ubuntu >.> |
| 10:21.15 | nevcairiel | it does'nt like you either, but it doesnt have a choice! |
| 10:21.29 | cncfanatics | ubuntu is like: "You're an idiot, let me help you" |
| 10:22.11 | nevcairiel | And thats wrong, how? |
| 10:22.26 | cncfanatics | the "You're an idiot" part is wrong |
| 10:26.28 | nevcairiel | well then use gentoo, it requires you to be the opposite |
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| 10:26.55 | Wraithan | Or use arch and get most of the same customization without watching text scroll for hours |
| 10:27.12 | nevcairiel | I actually like gentoo for the compiling part, too =P |
| 10:27.33 | nevcairiel | But i'm just crazy like that |
| 10:27.57 | Wraithan | Gentoo: Watching text scroll by for hours on end is fun for the whole family! |
| 10:28.35 | cncfanatics | I need to be done installing in about 6 hours :p so gentoo won't do :p |
| 10:29.11 | Wraithan | Arch wont do then either... just as much config as gentoo, minus the compiling |
| 10:29.21 | Wraithan | but everything come vanila and you have to set it up yourself |
| 10:30.57 | cncfanatics | should be possible I think |
| 10:31.29 | nevcairiel | you still need to download before =P |
| 10:33.23 | cncfanatics | backing up my files now :p will take a while as well |
| 10:33.49 | Arrowmaster | sweet i got wireshark working using a pipe to plink thats running tcpdump on my router |
| 10:33.57 | Arrowmaster | and i found something really really funny |
| 10:34.25 | Arrowmaster | im being absolutely fucking spammed with ARP requests from my isp |
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| 10:35.40 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 10:35.43 | cncfanatics | why lol ? |
| 10:35.56 | Arrowmaster | probably because theyre retarded |
| 10:36.46 | Arrowmaster | and by spammed i really do mean spammed, its like for every ip on each of their different subnets that they could assign me an ip from |
| 10:37.20 | Arrowmaster | like 15 per sec |
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| 10:38.50 | CIA-51 | 03next96 07WotLK * r81526 10Mapster/Locale/koKR.lua: |
| 10:38.50 | CIA-51 | Mapster: |
| 10:38.51 | CIA-51 | - Update locale koKR |
| 10:39.17 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna plug in my wired network for faster backups, brb |
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| 10:42.57 | cncfanatics | lol at the difference in speed between wired & wireless |
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| 10:49.36 | Arrowmaster | so are you two still running git svn fetches? |
| 10:50.41 | Wraithan | ckknight: I was gone during the weekend... happen to know the status on when you may need the extra computational power? |
| 10:51.01 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: around 60k now |
| 10:51.09 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: bastard |
| 10:51.20 | nevcairiel | after only one day |
| 10:51.31 | nevcairiel | or was it two |
| 10:51.37 | nevcairiel | did we start that on saturday or sunday? :P |
| 10:51.53 | Arrowmaster | been 1 day i think |
| 10:52.11 | Arrowmaster | mines on 80943 after a week |
| 10:52.13 | cncfanatics | let me check at how much I am |
| 10:52.19 | Wraithan | nevcairiel: that the thing ckknight was talking about needing volenteers on? |
| 10:52.30 | nevcairiel | Wraithan: i dunno |
| 10:52.38 | Arrowmaster | what was ckknight talking about? |
| 10:52.48 | Wraithan | to help convert from the old system to the new system? |
| 10:52.51 | nevcairiel | I'm just mirroring the SVN into a Git repository |
| 10:52.54 | cncfanatics | I'm at 38k |
| 10:53.12 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel's connect is fast :p |
| 10:53.20 | Arrowmaster | i dont really see how you could easyly split up what they plan to do |
| 10:53.26 | nevcairiel | 100mbit server cncfanatics |
| 10:53.30 | cncfanatics | hehe |
| 10:53.37 | cncfanatics | I'm using my smallish 12mbit home connection |
| 10:53.44 | cncfanatics | and bah, i'm out of empty cd's |
| 10:54.15 | Arrowmaster | oh fuck you ive only got 7mbit |
| 10:54.41 | cncfanatics | well, I'm at 38k now with a 12mbit |
| 10:54.50 | cncfanatics | and rly, I'm totaly not using all my bandwidth on it |
| 10:54.54 | cncfanatics | so I doubt its only that |
| 10:55.09 | Wraithan | I am on 8mbit, but it is effectly 3-4 mbit |
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| 10:57.23 | cncfanatics | mmm, any way to install a distro without cdrom or usb sticks ? :p |
| 10:57.32 | Arrowmaster | rofl, from running wireshark for fun on my wan connection i just noticed a netsend message |
| 10:57.57 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: yeah |
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| 10:58.25 | Arrowmaster | i installed this laptop by copying the netinstaller boot image onto the harddrive |
| 10:59.41 | orionshock | can someone tell me that im not crazy and that www.ipdirecttv.com is truly borked? |
| 11:00.27 | cncfanatics | while I'm at it, does anyone have an idea why the debian unstable repos hasn't changed in over a month ? |
| 11:00.44 | Arrowmaster | the unstable should have |
| 11:00.50 | Arrowmaster | what mirror? |
| 11:01.03 | cncfanatics | be.debian is my mirror |
| 11:01.06 | cncfanatics | I found it weird |
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| 11:01.33 | nevcairiel | even the stable repo changed |
| 11:01.40 | cncfanatics | orionshock: the site you gave me doesn't load |
| 11:02.13 | cncfanatics | sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade has upgraded no packages for me in over a month :p even though the update does get new defs |
| 11:03.08 | CIA-51 | 03next96 07Ace3-WotLK * r81527 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options/locales/ (ag_Options-enUS.lua ag_Options-koKR.lua): |
| 11:03.09 | CIA-51 | ag_Options : |
| 11:03.09 | CIA-51 | - dupe locale delete |
| 11:03.09 | CIA-51 | - Update locale koKR |
| 11:03.22 | Arrowmaster | try aptitude |
| 11:03.57 | nevcairiel | I never liked aptitude, apt all the way |
| 11:04.15 | cncfanatics | aptitude will give the same results, it just runs the corresponding apt-get commands |
| 11:04.39 | Arrowmaster | and why the fuck does somebody with an ip address belonging to 'African Network Information Center' keep sending me udp packets on port 15599 |
| 11:04.56 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 11:05.02 | Arrowmaster | im serious |
| 11:05.05 | cncfanatics | maybe its morse ? :o try sending some back ! |
| 11:05.32 | cncfanatics | I'd open that port and listen to it, just out of curiosity |
| 11:05.45 | Arrowmaster | i dont need to open it to listen to it |
| 11:06.08 | cncfanatics | true |
| 11:06.15 | *** join/#wowace quoin- (n=quoin@114-30-97-238.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 11:06.19 | *** join/#wowace Throngy|zzz (n=nnnnnnnn@5ad2ab33.bb.sky.com) |
| 11:06.45 | Arrowmaster | its 31 bytes of data every time and the exact same data |
| 11:07.02 | cncfanatics | any sense to make out of it ? |
| 11:07.30 | Arrowmaster | 0000 16 42 e4 20 6d 62 37 d0 5f 7d a1 da 54 23 99 00 .B. mb7._}..T#.. |
| 11:07.30 | Arrowmaster | 0010 00 01 00 08 00 00 00 c3 83 53 43 50 41 02 00 .........SCPA.. |
| 11:07.45 | Arrowmaster | theres the data |
| 11:08.03 | *** join/#wowace Throngy (n=nn@5ad2ab33.bb.sky.com) |
| 11:08.16 | nevcairiel | seems useful :P |
| 11:08.40 | Kalroth | Odds are that it's some weird server that you've contacted previously |
| 11:08.45 | CIA-51 | 03next96 07Ace3-WotLK * r81528 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-koKR.lua: |
| 11:08.45 | CIA-51 | ag_UnitFrames: |
| 11:08.45 | CIA-51 | - Update locale koKR |
| 11:09.01 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 11:09.07 | Arrowmaster | the ip doesnt have rDNS |
| 11:09.21 | Kalroth | uhm, that doesn't mean anything |
| 11:09.59 | CIA-51 | 03next96 07Ace3 * r81529 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-koKR.lua: |
| 11:09.59 | CIA-51 | ag_UnitFrames: |
| 11:09.59 | CIA-51 | - Update locale koKR |
| 11:11.11 | Kalroth | Maybe it's African Network Information Center and Southern California Percussion Alliance that's scheming on you, waiting for your port to open, just so they can hack your machine. |
| 11:12.13 | Arrowmaster | Source: 41.246.104.83 (41.246.104.83) |
| 11:13.00 | Arrowmaster | would have to plugin my laptop if i wanted to nmap it damnit |
| 11:13.24 | Megalon | limewire |
| 11:13.27 | Megalon | traffic |
| 11:13.42 | Megalon | could it be |
| 11:13.52 | Arrowmaster | ive never used limewire |
| 11:14.07 | nevcairiel | are you on dynamic ip and just recently connected? |
| 11:14.13 | nevcairiel | maybe someone else using your IP did :P |
| 11:14.16 | CIA-51 | 03next96 07ag_Options * r81530 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_Options-koKR.lua: |
| 11:14.16 | CIA-51 | ag_Options : |
| 11:14.16 | CIA-51 | - Update locale koKR |
| 11:14.39 | Arrowmaster | dynamic ip thats reserved for my mac address most of the time |
| 11:14.49 | Arrowmaster | perty sure ive had this ip for over a year now |
| 11:14.57 | Arrowmaster | had a previous one for 4 years i think |
| 11:15.01 | Kalroth | Maybe someone sent them a spoofed packet using your IP. |
| 11:15.11 | Megalon | and now you get banged |
| 11:15.16 | Megalon | by the nigeria connection! |
| 11:15.33 | Kalroth | I already called that! |
| 11:15.39 | Kalroth | It's the African Network Information Center and Southern California Percussion Alliance connection! |
| 11:16.08 | *** join/#wowace Movix (n=mattes@82.242.144.196) |
| 11:16.13 | Kalroth | aha |
| 11:16.16 | *** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@nl119-199-202.student.uu.se) |
| 11:16.18 | Megalon | oh, k ;p |
| 11:16.35 | Kalroth | Arrowmaster: SCAP = "smart cache for wireless p2p" |
| 11:17.21 | Arrowmaster | seriously this is fun |
| 11:17.30 | Kalroth | So I'm guessing you're the victim of a random SCAP packet, nothing else |
| 11:17.34 | Arrowmaster | Message [truncated]: CRITICAL ERROR MESSAGE! - REGISTRY DAMAGED AND CORRUPTED.\n\nTo FIX this problem:\nOpen Internet Explorer and type: www.winregistrycleaner.com\nOnce you load the web page, close this message window\n\nAfter you instal |
| 11:17.45 | charon | more likely the victim of a random SCAM packet? |
| 11:18.40 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:20.37 | CIA-51 | 03Mera-92869 * r30 10OneCompanion/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 11:20.39 | CIA-51 | OneCompanion: |
| 11:20.41 | CIA-51 | -added tooltips, DismissCompanion |
| 11:20.43 | CIA-51 | -updated ace3 externals |
| 11:21.27 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: lol |
| 11:23.40 | *** join/#wowace eoM_rM (n=moe@p5489B73B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:23.41 | *** join/#wowace qwesto (i=qwesto@stalin.acc.umu.se) |
| 11:29.50 | CIA-51 | 03dodge * r81531 10/branches/CoolDownButtons/ (3.0/ WotLK/ WotLK/planung.txt): CoolDownButtons: there will be no 3.0 in the next time (no need for that what was planed :P); renamed to WotLK (here will be the Wrath-Fix for CDB if i get access to Wrath :-) |
| 11:36.03 | Fisker- | eats nevcairiel |
| 11:36.22 | *** join/#wowace vhaarr (n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr) |
| 11:36.22 | *** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ |
| 11:36.30 | Fisker- | slaps vhaarr around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:38.24 | Fisker- | NeoTron my friend btw |
| 11:39.54 | *** join/#wowace ramoz (n=ramoz@nikita.modservers.net) |
| 11:40.22 | Xinhuan | am i your friend? |
| 11:40.34 | Fisker- | no |
| 11:40.39 | Fisker- | atleast not now |
| 11:40.43 | Fisker- | perhaps when i need you |
| 11:40.43 | Xinhuan | stabs Fisker- with a pillow |
| 11:41.03 | *** join/#wowace Hjalte (n=chatzill@62.242.38.50) |
| 11:41.33 | Fisker- | :( |
| 11:41.40 | Fisker- | BUT I NEEDED YOU |
| 11:42.24 | *** join/#wowace Throngy (n=nn@5ad2ab33.bb.sky.com) |
| 11:42.52 | Fisker- | oh wait |
| 11:43.00 | Fisker- | pillows aren't that great for stabbing |
| 11:43.27 | Xinhuan | have you seen egpytian pillows? |
| 11:45.41 | Fisker- | Depends |
| 11:45.48 | Fisker- | does your mom use egyptian pillows? |
| 11:45.55 | Xinhuan | no |
| 11:46.09 | Fisker- | then no |
| 11:48.03 | *** join/#wowace cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
| 11:48.05 | WobWork | yay 70 |
| 11:49.03 | Xinhuan | on beta? |
| 11:49.13 | Fisker- | raeps |
| 11:51.36 | Fisker- | flies into WobWork |
| 11:51.41 | Fisker- | btw |
| 11:51.43 | WobWork | on live |
| 11:51.47 | Fisker- | reported for playing at work |
| 11:52.03 | WobWork | uhuh |
| 11:52.10 | WobWork | Sorry, Fisker, go get a job |
| 11:52.26 | Lyn | you can't get a job with 10 years |
| 11:52.28 | *** join/#wowace nekoh (n=nekoh@p4FD8AAF3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:52.34 | Fisker- | i got a job WobWork |
| 11:52.36 | WobWork | True, you're out of luck then |
| 11:52.39 | *** join/#wowace qwesto (i=qwesto@stalin.acc.umu.se) |
| 11:52.42 | Lyn | xD |
| 11:52.43 | WobWork | pats Fisker- on the head |
| 11:52.51 | WobWork | Don't worry, I'm sure your mum still loves you |
| 11:53.14 | Fisker- | probably older than you anyways |
| 11:55.00 | *** join/#wowace cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
| 11:55.26 | Lyn | 15 minutes and i have to go :< |
| 11:56.20 | *** join/#wowace NM|Xinhuan (i=xinhuan@adsl1500-45.dyn83.pacific.net.sg) |
| 11:56.20 | Camci | Anyone good at Pitbull? :p |
| 11:56.23 | *** join/#wowace cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
| 11:57.05 | Lyn | what exactly do you mean with "good at pitbull"? |
| 11:58.21 | WobWork | If you are, Fisker, then you're even sadder than I first thought |
| 11:58.50 | Camci | Im trying to change the layout of the Focus frame |
| 11:58.57 | Camci | but cant seem to find the option for it |
| 11:58.59 | Fisker- | Your thoughts are really irrelevant WobWork |
| 11:59.14 | Lyn | shift right click on your focus frame (i think) |
| 11:59.15 | WobWork | That's what I've been telling you for ages now |
| 11:59.35 | Lyn | or was it shift click... dunno :o |
| 11:59.47 | Lyn | or control right click |
| 11:59.58 | Camci | aha |
| 12:00.04 | WobWork | <modifier>+click |
| 12:00.08 | Lyn | yes |
| 12:00.14 | Lyn | something like this :P |
| 12:00.15 | Camci | shift right click worked thanks :) |
| 12:00.21 | Lyn | then rock should open the options for focus |
| 12:00.30 | Camci | ya see it now |
| 12:00.43 | Lyn | good, i am leaving now, good bye :p |
| 12:01.37 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 12:02.56 | cncfanatics | screw this damn reinstall for now |
| 12:03.00 | cncfanatics | I don't want to miss kael tonight |
| 12:03.18 | Fisker- | :o |
| 12:03.23 | Fisker- | why so kael? |
| 12:03.29 | Fisker- | ring? |
| 12:03.39 | cncfanatics | kael'thas :p |
| 12:03.44 | Fisker- | i know |
| 12:03.52 | cncfanatics | will be our first kill |
| 12:03.55 | Fisker- | was wondering if you didn't want to miss him because of the hyjal ring |
| 12:03.56 | Fisker- | ah |
| 12:04.11 | cncfanatics | I've been in all first kills so far |
| 12:04.13 | cncfanatics | wanne keep it that way |
| 12:04.51 | Fisker- | should get illidan soon here |
| 12:07.18 | *** join/#wowace Roblibob (n=chatzill@c-07fde055.1910-5-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 12:07.39 | cncfanatics | well, we started raiding last week monday |
| 12:07.45 | cncfanatics | we're new :p |
| 12:08.03 | Fisker- | :P |
| 12:08.17 | Fisker- | surprised you even bother with TK then |
| 12:08.34 | JoshBorke | it's good experience |
| 12:08.42 | CIA-51 | 03Mera-92869 * r31 10OneCompanion/frames/templates.lua: |
| 12:08.42 | CIA-51 | OneCompanion: |
| 12:08.42 | CIA-51 | -added ChatEdit_InsertLink() |
| 12:08.50 | Fisker- | i guess :P |
| 12:09.10 | CrazyBenny | Kael is more fun than whole BT aswell :P |
| 12:09.17 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 12:09.18 | cncfanatics | we're a wotlk guild |
| 12:09.27 | cncfanatics | the only reason we do preBC raiding is to spot idiots |
| 12:09.29 | cncfanatics | and replace them |
| 12:09.31 | cncfanatics | kael is perfect for that rly |
| 12:09.50 | Fisker- | ah |
| 12:10.33 | Fisker- | our guild is pretty awesome |
| 12:10.41 | Fisker- | So we start out pretty even and do pretty good |
| 12:10.53 | Fisker- | Then people leave and we get sent back to the middle ages (raiding wise) |
| 12:11.06 | Fisker- | And then just before the Expansion we start to get back to the high-end |
| 12:11.11 | Fisker- | Rinse & repeat :P |
| 12:11.27 | Fisker- | Though could've taken Illidan months ago if it wasn't for summer + AoC |
| 12:11.50 | CrazyBenny | hehe, AoC..the biggest mistake of this year |
| 12:12.07 | CrazyBenny | so many people felt for it and all are back |
| 12:12.11 | Fisker- | Yeah |
| 12:12.12 | Fisker- | same here |
| 12:12.19 | Hjalte | Sigh, getting stunlocked to death by a lvl 63 rogue as a 64 druid >.< |
| 12:12.37 | Fisker- | stuns don't kill people |
| 12:12.40 | Fisker- | people kill people :D |
| 12:12.59 | Hjalte | I can only whip his ass if I start. |
| 12:13.08 | Hjalte | I don't have my pvp trinket yet |
| 12:13.09 | cncfanatics | Hjalte: no time to switch to bear somewhere ? |
| 12:13.20 | Hjalte | Totally stunlocked |
| 12:13.22 | Fisker- | you should see how i suck in wotlk |
| 12:13.22 | cncfanatics | or did you really get killed during he stunlock ? (you shouldn't with some outland gear rly) |
| 12:13.27 | Fisker- | I almost lost to a level 70 hunter |
| 12:13.30 | Fisker- | as level 80 |
| 12:13.33 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 12:13.34 | Fisker- | with my death knight |
| 12:13.34 | cncfanatics | fail |
| 12:13.39 | cncfanatics | l2p :p |
| 12:13.48 | Fisker- | Was pretty mean |
| 12:13.50 | CIA-51 | 03adirelle * r81532 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (9 files in 4 dirs): |
| 12:13.50 | CIA-51 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 12:13.50 | CIA-51 | - made item buffs a module, so one can disable it (that means not loading PT3 when the module is standalone), |
| 12:13.50 | CIA-51 | - created a "module" section in config panel and moved each module panels into it. |
| 12:13.51 | cncfanatics | well |
| 12:13.52 | Fisker- | They had some absorbe skill |
| 12:13.56 | Fisker- | and he had a turtle with shield wall |
| 12:14.00 | cncfanatics | tbh, death knights should be renamed kiteable knight |
| 12:14.02 | Fisker- | apparently they take his damage |
| 12:14.06 | Fisker- | hah yeah |
| 12:14.34 | Fisker- | Chains of Ice would probably had been better as a root |
| 12:14.39 | Fisker- | as it were previously |
| 12:14.51 | Camci | AoC was really fail, Sure i had fun the 2-3 first weeks then it completly sucked. :p |
| 12:15.00 | Camci | curious how WAR will go. |
| 12:15.31 | Camci | tbh gief Aion |
| 12:15.33 | Camci | ^^ |
| 12:15.35 | cncfanatics | well, they did scrap half the content to release early |
| 12:15.46 | cncfanatics | when they announced that was the moment I decided to stick to WoW :p |
| 12:16.00 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: Killed while stunlocked. I only have like 5,5k health. |
| 12:16.22 | cncfanatics | :o pretty low |
| 12:17.42 | Camci | How do i change this so it only shows the percent? |
| 12:17.42 | Camci | [Status or (Concatenate((if IsFriend then |
| 12:17.42 | Camci | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:17.43 | Camci | end), ' | ') FractionalHP:Short ' | ' PercentHP:Percent)] |
| 12:17.50 | Camci | I tried myself but it wont save... |
| 12:17.57 | Camci | it just changes back to that :S |
| 12:17.57 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: I am full cat tbc greens :) |
| 12:18.36 | cncfanatics | Camci: pasting like that will get you kicked |
| 12:18.43 | Camci | :o |
| 12:18.43 | cncfanatics | please use pastey |
| 12:18.56 | Camci | whats pastey? |
| 12:18.59 | cncfanatics | www.pastey.net |
| 12:19.09 | cncfanatics | its what you should use if you need to paste more then one line of text to us |
| 12:19.13 | Camci | ah |
| 12:19.58 | Camci | http://www.pastey.net/95577 ? |
| 12:21.02 | sacarasc | Ackis: ping |
| 12:23.01 | *** join/#wowace elaa (n=ela@p54B4D449.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:23.42 | Camci | Any idea how to show this only in percent http://www.pastey.net/95577 ? |
| 12:24.54 | Camci | nvm lol |
| 12:24.58 | Camci | [Status or PercentHP:Percent] |
| 12:24.59 | Camci | ^^ |
| 12:29.09 | chexsum | ugh @ having no water in a 2v2 with me v a serpent stinging huntard :( |
| 12:29.25 | chexsum | only reason i lost was no water - qq |
| 12:30.23 | *** join/#wowace Pkekyo| (n=Pkekyo@062016163025.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 12:31.39 | Pkekyo| | g'morning ladies |
| 12:31.40 | chexsum | lost 7 pts too so would have gained 20+ |
| 12:31.49 | [SW]Dodge | g'morning Pkekyo| |
| 12:32.54 | Pkekyo| | any good alternatives for live messenger out there? it refuses to install on my system... |
| 12:33.03 | *** join/#wowace Lopen|Wooork (n=lopen@207.74.131.76) |
| 12:33.25 | *** join/#wowace Ominous (n=Ominous@85-210-78-69.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 12:33.36 | Daemona | Does anybody here know if shadowpriest.com got an irc channel? that stupid forum software doesnt send me emails... |
| 12:34.32 | Ominous | Gnarfoz: ping |
| 12:35.30 | Pkekyo| | noone know any alternatives? :< |
| 12:36.23 | [SW]Dodge | Pkekyo|: no alternative that is comparable, but miranda and pidgin can be used |
| 12:36.46 | [SW]Dodge | Pkekyo|: what OS do you have? |
| 12:36.48 | Pkekyo| | what's the upsides and downsides about them? |
| 12:36.51 | Pkekyo| | Win XP Pro SP2 |
| 12:37.37 | [SW]Dodge | xp pro should have no problems wit live. they are small and are able to handle multiple messenger protocols but they dont have all the features |
| 12:38.05 | Pkekyo| | it won't let me install it |
| 12:38.12 | Adirelle|work | are password changes from the account web pages dispatched to the beta realms ? |
| 12:38.18 | [SW]Dodge | no video chat, no custom emotes. about file transfer i dont know |
| 12:38.59 | Pkekyo| | gotta have "Windows Update Agent 5.8.02469 or later" according to windows live messenger install, but I can't bloody get it |
| 12:39.04 | Adirelle|work | e.g. if I changed my wow password now, would it be changed on the beta realms too ? |
| 12:39.06 | vrak | pidgin, atleast, has filetransfers |
| 12:39.37 | Pkekyo| | [SW]Dodge: no video chat?! WHAT ABOUT MY CAMWHORES?! :O |
| 12:39.37 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 12:39.49 | [SW]Dodge | :P |
| 12:39.55 | kenlyric | Adirelle|work: as far as I know, no |
| 12:39.59 | [SW]Dodge | Pkekyo|: http://jalaj.net/2008/01/20/downloading-windows-update-agent-5802469/ check this |
| 12:41.02 | kenlyric | pretty sure the beta account process is a one-time copy |
| 12:41.59 | Pkekyo| | what the flying fuck is Windows Update Agent anyways? |
| 12:42.28 | [SW]Dodge | Pkekyo|: i dont know XD |
| 12:43.21 | Pkekyo| | I'm concerned it might start doing flakey bullshit to my system |
| 12:44.55 | Pkekyo| | my XP client isn't exactly legit ;< |
| 12:44.59 | [SW]Dodge | Pkekyo|: i think you only should need to avoid it if your windows copüy is not legal |
| 12:45.21 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 12:45.53 | [SW]Dodge | :> |
| 12:46.31 | Pkekyo| | I'd spring for Win XP if I could afford it, but meh |
| 12:47.40 | Jygga | uhm just ask some student if their university has an msdnaa contract for a copy? |
| 12:47.44 | Jygga | ^^ |
| 12:47.44 | [SW]Dodge | <3 MSDNAA 4 free&lrhal M$ Software :) |
| 12:47.53 | [SW]Dodge | legal* |
| 12:48.08 | Pkekyo| | wait...what? |
| 12:48.29 | [SW]Dodge | Jygga: they have the copys but the keys are registred to thier names :( |
| 12:48.37 | Jygga | orly? |
| 12:48.40 | [SW]Dodge | yea |
| 12:48.49 | Jygga | we just get a pressed cd with all the same keys on it |
| 12:48.56 | [SW]Dodge | rly? |
| 12:48.59 | Jygga | rly |
| 12:49.02 | [SW]Dodge | hm |
| 12:49.21 | [SW]Dodge | we got a website wher we was able to dl the stuff and everyone got a diffrent key |
| 12:49.29 | Pkekyo| | why the flying fuck have they made it so goddamn hard to install fucking msn messenger?! |
| 12:49.30 | Jygga | ya we got that too |
| 12:49.57 | [SW]Dodge | Pkekyo|: couz they suck! :> |
| 12:50.01 | Jygga | but our it dep is handing out cds and dvds for those without broadband etc |
| 12:50.26 | [SW]Dodge | hm |
| 12:50.34 | Pkekyo| | [SW]Dodge: stating the obvious...but what the hell...can't they just release a bloody livemessengerinstall.exe or livemessenger.msi file? |
| 12:50.36 | Pkekyo| | fucking arsehats |
| 12:51.13 | Jygga | maybe ask yours, we have to pay 3 euro "coverage fee" for the raw cd tho! :P |
| 12:51.33 | Jygga | just use pidgin or whatever? |
| 12:51.43 | Jygga | who needs that funky msn crap? |
| 12:51.45 | Pkekyo| | Jygga: not the same :< |
| 12:52.00 | Pkekyo| | I've gotten used to the luxuries of camwhores and file transfers :p |
| 12:52.18 | [SW]Dodge | Jygga: we could order a CD from within the website for 9,99 or was it $? dunno |
| 12:52.33 | Jygga | nah not from the msdnaa server |
| 12:52.49 | Jygga | from your local university IT department |
| 12:53.01 | Jygga | just drop by and ask for a copy |
| 12:53.30 | [SW]Dodge | i didt got the msdnaa acces not from a university, i was on a spezialised school for it-jobs |
| 12:53.44 | Jygga | oh okay, guess thats another story :P |
| 12:54.35 | [SW]Dodge | and the one who manages the msdnaa stuff there told us that if we dont have a broadband connection we should as a friend to download it as we get our keys directly after "order" |
| 12:55.10 | [SW]Dodge | Jygga: do you msdnaa acc have vista ultimate? we just got the business version :( |
| 12:55.36 | Jygga | msdnaa just covers business yes |
| 12:55.55 | Jygga | the dvd has all versions on it but the type of installation is defined by the key you enter during install |
| 12:56.36 | [SW]Dodge | yea i know that |
| 12:56.56 | [SW]Dodge | but i dont want to install ultimate with an illegal key so i just use the bussines :) |
| 12:56.58 | *** join/#wowace sun\ (n=sun@ARouen-256-1-67-212.w90-51.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 12:57.34 | [SW]Dodge | would like to get ultimate as i LOVE the extra poker game xD |
| 12:59.06 | Geniack | windows do suck anyway |
| 12:59.39 | [SW]Dodge | Geniack: stfu! no one asked you -.- :D |
| 12:59.59 | Daemona | oh man, why do all those "cast sequence" addons fail add pre-evaluating dots with cast time... they always state "use it now" when its dropping instead of e.g. 2 seconds ahead to account for cast time... |
| 13:00.02 | [SW]Dodge | Geniack: and if windows suck why did you download my image :D |
| 13:00.09 | Daemona | s/add/at |
| 13:01.05 | Geniack | [SW]Dodge: because game developers or at least the game industry is so damn ignorant against other os's than windows, so every fucking tard that likes to play a commercial game has to use windows or rely on good emulators |
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| 13:02.48 | charon | s/emulators/glorified linkers/ |
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| 13:03.19 | Geniack | charon: glorified linkers? |
| 13:03.45 | charon | well, wine is mostly a set of reverse engineered windows libraries and a linker for windows exe/dll formats |
| 13:03.55 | Geniack | yeah right |
| 13:03.57 | charon | they even expand it to Wine Is Not an Emulator |
| 13:04.02 | Geniack | hehe |
| 13:04.08 | Geniack | but when talking about wine |
| 13:04.18 | Geniack | i mean an emulator for simplicity |
| 13:04.39 | Geniack | did you ever try "cedega" and all those fancy extensions for wine? |
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| 13:04.59 | charon | yeah but i dropped it when i realised wine was just as good for WoW |
| 13:05.18 | Geniack | oh i see.. so you *just* play wow on linux? |
| 13:05.23 | Geniack | if you play on linux at al.. |
| 13:05.25 | Geniack | *all |
| 13:06.14 | CIA-51 | 03johny * r81533 10MisInformation/MisInformation.lua: |
| 13:06.14 | CIA-51 | MisInformation: |
| 13:06.14 | CIA-51 | - Fixes to make it run for non-hunters without quite so many errors :) |
| 13:06.14 | CIA-51 | - Config routines cleanups. |
| 13:06.16 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 13:06.17 | charon | i've run wc3, fallout and such in the past, but right now it's just wow |
| 13:06.36 | Geniack | ah ok |
| 13:06.40 | Kaelten | wine for games does a pretty good job on steam games too |
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| 13:06.56 | Geniack | i tried counter strike with wine |
| 13:07.07 | Geniack | not sure if it was the old one, non steam based |
| 13:07.20 | Geniack | and it completely wasnt able to show fonts |
| 13:07.39 | Geniack | i wasnt able to play since i cant do any configurations without fonts ;) |
| 13:09.58 | charon | yeah my flatmate plays several games over steam |
| 13:10.05 | charon | HL2, TitanQuest, Portal, not sure what else |
| 13:10.51 | CIA-51 | 037destiny * r81534 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-koKR.lua: RatingBuster: koKR Update |
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| 13:13.48 | Fisker- | slaps Kaelten around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:14.31 | Pkekyo| | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
| 13:14.32 | Pkekyo| | fresh Win XP Pro install <3 |
| 13:14.40 | Pkekyo| | it's so...silky smooth and...fresh! |
| 13:14.52 | [SW]Dodge | Pkekyo|: wb :> |
| 13:14.56 | Pkekyo| | thanks :) |
| 13:15.06 | Pkekyo| | had to reboot to get a proper resolution :p |
| 13:15.26 | [SW]Dodge | [15:07] Geniack: i wasnt able to play since i cant do any configurations without fonts ;) <- you can! *.cfg files ftw |
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| 13:31.20 | Pkekyo| | http://zip.4chan.org/co/src/1220877732442.jpg |
| 13:33.34 | kenlyric | nicely done |
| 13:34.00 | Lopen|Wooork | lol |
| 13:34.20 | Pkekyo| | :D |
| 13:38.25 | Pkekyo| | Not in cruelty, not in wrath, the reaper came today; An angel visited this gray path, and took the cube away. |
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| 13:45.05 | Pkekyo| | http://zip.4chan.org/co/src/1220868776164.jpg |
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| 13:48.50 | Nimbal | Hi everyone. I have a small question regarding memory management and frames. Frames aren't gc'd, but are they recycled by the game engine? |
| 13:49.11 | thul | checking a 4chan link from Pkekyo| ? Not ikely |
| 13:49.21 | Josh_Borke | sfw |
| 13:49.27 | Josh_Borke | Nimbal: no |
| 13:49.27 | Corgan | ^^ |
| 13:49.41 | Pkekyo| | thul: it's safe for work :) |
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| 13:50.09 | thul | Pkekyo|: haha, one of the better rickbondrolls |
| 13:50.24 | Pkekyo| | indeed |
| 13:50.25 | Nimbal | So it wouldn't be a good idea to make a cache for items that hold frame references, and then set "mode = 'k'" on this cache? |
| 13:52.31 | Josh_Borke | huh? if you're not making the frames, what does it matter? not your problem |
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| 13:56.13 | Nimbal | Ah, let me clarify that: I create objects that themselves create a frame. Since the number of objects I need can vary during runtime, I'd like to cache them. Normally, I would tell the GC to collect the objects in my cache when necessary, but then the frames would be orphaned and sitting in memory. So I'm not entirely sure whether making the cached objects collectible is good. |
| 13:56.53 | Josh_Borke | make the cached objects collectible but do a better job of working with the frames |
| 13:56.59 | Josh_Borke | ie, "gc" them yourself |
| 13:57.34 | Nimbal | So one cache for objects, one for frames? |
| 13:57.40 | Josh_Borke | yes |
| 13:57.44 | Nimbal | Alright, thanks. |
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| 13:59.51 | thul | nerds. |
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| 14:01.13 | Josh_Borke | thul: you realize you're idling in a room devoted to a project born out of writing addons for a game, right? |
| 14:01.52 | thul | hmm, idling?! |
| 14:01.54 | thul | I'm never idle. |
| 14:02.17 | Josh_Borke | but you're doing it now |
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| 14:03.25 | Tifi | this script that generates useless pages like http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Roster-2.1 ... is it explained somewhere how to use it (and make it create useful pages) |
| 14:04.31 | CIA-51 | 03Mera-92869 * r32 10OneCompanion/ (9 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:04.31 | CIA-51 | OneCompanion: |
| 14:04.32 | CIA-51 | -fixed typo |
| 14:04.41 | cladhaire | Tifi: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Autodoc_Format |
| 14:04.52 | Tifi | thank you! |
| 14:06.24 | Adirelle|work | the only limitation of this script is that it only documents one namespace per file |
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| 14:08.16 | thul | Josh_Borke: LIES |
| 14:13.11 | Tifi | "Methods that match function namespace.SomeName() and namespace.SomeName = function() are ignored" <- is there any way to get around this? (#FORCE_DOC or sth) |
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| 14:20.29 | Adirelle|work | sylvanaar: ping ? |
| 14:20.34 | thul | PONG |
| 14:20.49 | Adirelle|work | thul: are you sylvanaar ? |
| 14:21.33 | thul | I guess i hacked U |
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| 14:24.53 | Adirelle|work | please take a razor blade and go play with it in the middle of an highway ^^ |
| 14:25.36 | thul | kidnaps Adirelle|work, takes him into the middle of a highway, cuts his wrists and runs before the trailers arrives |
| 14:25.39 | thul | MOHAHAHA |
| 14:26.05 | Adirelle|work | *resisted* |
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| 14:26.15 | thul | typical :-( |
| 14:26.19 | thul | I never get crits when i need it |
| 14:26.36 | Adirelle|work | any enchanter logged in coldarra atm ? |
| 14:26.39 | Adirelle|work | (horde) |
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| 14:28.41 | thul | enchants are for nebs, just look at me: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Balnazzar&n=Thyve |
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| 14:30.14 | Zyndrome | orly |
| 14:30.47 | Zyndrome | I'm raiding Sunwell and I _still_ havn't been to get rep with HH for head enchant , leaving my headpeice unenchanted :D |
| 14:30.48 | thul | rly |
| 14:30.54 | Zyndrome | been arsed* |
| 14:32.10 | thul | I have no guild atm :-( |
| 14:32.12 | thul | <- sadcat |
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| 14:33.15 | Zyndrome | or meh, guess I'll be guildkicked soon, as I dont seem to give a shit about raiding currently until the content patch |
| 14:33.33 | thul | I would love a heroics + arena guild. |
| 14:33.40 | Zyndrome | and it's not exactly motivating either |
| 14:34.00 | thul | I joined a friends heroic-party-thing last night, doing 5 heroics in like 2-3 hours, lots of badges, lots of fun. |
| 14:34.02 | Zyndrome | "ok guys we're going Muru tonite, and we're going to wipe like 20 times again, like we've done every week for over 2 months now" |
| 14:34.22 | thul | combining 15-20 heroics (2-3 nights) with 1-2 nights of arena pr week, perfect for me |
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| 14:37.22 | FinalX | heh, we're wiping in MH at the moment due to undergeared people and all, but making progress really quickly, downed first 2 bosses first time we were in there |
| 14:38.02 | FinalX | never burned that quickly through shields as i did there though.. im the one tanking the waves :P |
| 14:38.44 | thul | I just want 2x vanir fist. And maybe a pair of badge pants for my rogue |
| 14:38.59 | Ellipsis | why bother with the badge pants? you know they won't stay on long ;) |
| 14:39.23 | FinalX | im after the badge gear as well .. but took the libram for +dmg to seal/judgement of righteousness now.. also for that reason: not lasting long |
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| 14:39.56 | Fisker- | slaps Ellipsis around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:41.32 | Ellipsis | Fisker-s Fisker- around a bit with a large Fisker- |
| 14:41.53 | Fisker- | :( |
| 14:42.17 | Fisker- | i has mouse |
| 14:42.27 | Ellipsis | I has cat |
| 14:42.29 | Ellipsis | I win |
| 14:43.00 | Fisker- | i has cats |
| 14:43.01 | Fisker- | i win |
| 14:43.16 | Fisker- | cats can't hurt the mouse i has |
| 14:43.18 | fewyn | I has... FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER |
| 14:44.44 | charon | invisible pink unicorn > flying spaghetti monster, any day |
| 14:45.38 | FinalX | my colleague owns flyingspaghettimonster.nl ^^ |
| 14:51.21 | Fisker- | you scare me fewyn |
| 14:51.30 | fewyn | why? |
| 14:51.45 | Ellipsis | because you're scary, duh |
| 14:51.53 | fewyn | awesome |
| 14:52.00 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 14:52.13 | fewyn | i'm usually told i'm cuddly and furry and people just want to hug me |
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| 14:52.36 | Ellipsis | pics? |
| 14:52.55 | Fisker- | don't do it fewyn |
| 14:53.03 | Fisker- | Or if you must get pictars in return |
| 14:53.06 | fewyn | are you going to stalk me Ellipsis? |
| 14:53.12 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 14:53.15 | Ellipsis | is that a problem? |
| 14:53.20 | fewyn | nope none at all |
| 14:53.41 | fewyn | http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=551996612 |
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| 14:54.29 | Stanzilla | I-have-no-account-fail |
| 14:54.36 | Ellipsis | you can still see the one pic :P |
| 14:55.10 | fewyn | which i think is my only pic |
| 14:55.16 | Fisker- | facebook is moar like failbook |
| 14:55.20 | fewyn | i think i have some on flickr of me and my sister |
| 14:55.27 | Fisker- | not if i broke into your house and put it up |
| 14:55.47 | Ellipsis | Fisker- is just angry because he only has two friends on facebook |
| 14:55.52 | Ellipsis | and one of them is himself |
| 14:55.58 | Fisker- | I don't even use facebook |
| 14:56.08 | FinalX | Me either. |
| 14:56.12 | Ellipsis | BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET ANY FRIENDS ON IT |
| 14:56.12 | FinalX | Don't like profile sites. |
| 14:56.13 | Ellipsis | :D |
| 14:56.14 | fewyn | http://www.flickr.com/photos/fewyn/ i'm the guy in the hoodie fyi |
| 14:56.33 | fewyn | i use facebook to get in contact with people from high school |
| 14:56.41 | Ellipsis | (is it bad that I looked at the picture of the desk first?) |
| 14:56.45 | fewyn | because myspace is full of fail |
| 14:56.47 | fewyn | =p |
| 14:56.48 | thul | PUNY |
| 14:56.52 | fewyn | that was when my desk was NEW |
| 14:56.57 | fewyn | it looks nothing like that now |
| 14:56.58 | Fisker- | fewyn |
| 14:57.06 | Fisker- | Any web 2.0 social networking bullshit is full of fail |
| 14:57.15 | thul | I like facebook, we can plan meetings and stuff there |
| 14:57.19 | thul | Pkekyo|: do you have underskog? |
| 14:57.24 | fewyn | well how else am i supposed to find out where the hell my friends from high school moved? |
| 14:57.41 | Fisker- | i wouldn't care >:3 |
| 14:57.44 | fewyn | i do! |
| 14:57.56 | fewyn | especially since a lot of my friends where female |
| 14:58.00 | fewyn | and i'm single now |
| 14:58.04 | Fisker- | But you're gay! |
| 14:58.05 | Fisker- | oh |
| 14:58.08 | Ellipsis | ! |
| 14:58.12 | Ellipsis | Fisker-, that's not nice |
| 14:58.15 | Ellipsis | go sit in the corner |
| 14:58.17 | nevcairiel | they where female? arent anymore? =P |
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| 14:58.21 | thul | gays Ellipsis |
| 14:58.25 | fewyn | i didn't mean it that way nevcairiel! |
| 14:58.38 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 14:58.48 | ckknight | also, were, not where |
| 14:58.53 | fewyn | shush |
| 14:58.55 | Fisker- | damnit ckknight |
| 14:58.58 | Fisker- | that was my comment |
| 14:59.08 | Fisker- | stupid browser locking up |
| 14:59.26 | Ellipsis | in b4 "use chrome" |
| 14:59.38 | fewyn | chrome sucks |
| 14:59.40 | fewyn | imo |
| 14:59.59 | ckknight | fewyn: see, the solution to being single is just to date multiple people at the same time. That way, if you break up with one, you'll still have a fallback |
| 15:00.19 | Fisker- | Actually it was chrome i was using right there Ellipsis |
| 15:00.19 | Fisker- | |>3 |
| 15:00.20 | Ellipsis | and how's that working out for you ckknight? |
| 15:00.25 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 15:00.29 | ckknight | pretty well, actually. |
| 15:00.30 | thul | being single is best |
| 15:00.31 | Ellipsis | Fisker-: in after "chrome sucks" |
| 15:00.35 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 15:00.40 | thul | you can game, fuck, drink, work as much as you'd like |
| 15:00.43 | fewyn | i'm more in the mood to stay home and work and yea |
| 15:00.48 | Fisker- | like how the tabbing works though |
| 15:00.49 | thul | in my case: lots of gaming, fucking and working, not so much drinking |
| 15:01.10 | fewyn | i don't really like doing the going out thing |
| 15:01.12 | Ellipsis | yeah but if you're not single you don't have to work |
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| 15:04.13 | thul | Ellipsis: oh? is that something new? |
| 15:04.19 | thul | or just for golddigging female whores? :-P |
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| 15:04.29 | Ellipsis | ouch |
| 15:04.34 | Ellipsis | it works for anyone tbh ;) |
| 15:04.39 | thul | haha |
| 15:04.48 | thul | I prefer to pay my own way trough life :-P |
| 15:04.50 | thul | I'm weird that way |
| 15:05.08 | Ellipsis | wanna pay mine too? ;D |
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| 15:13.38 | *** topic/#wowace is WoWAce Future Plans! http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14316.0 | http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Author Key Give-Aways! http://wow.curseforge.com/announcements/lich-king-beta-author-key-giveaway/ | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17207 |
| 15:13.44 | [SW]Dodge | wb purl ! :D |
| 15:13.53 | fewyn | i already have one |
| 15:13.54 | Odlaw | arn't like wowinterface still doing beta key things? |
| 15:13.57 | fewyn | so meh |
| 15:14.13 | [SW]Dodge | Odlaw: they do |
| 15:14.28 | nevcairiel | I'm like 200k ep away from 80, but i really cba to grind mobs |
| 15:14.39 | fewyn | i am at like 78.7 |
| 15:14.42 | fewyn | and full rested |
| 15:14.47 | fewyn | i could go instance |
| 15:14.50 | fewyn | might do that this week |
| 15:16.20 | Fisker- | nevcairiel |
| 15:16.22 | Fisker- | i am having hate |
| 15:16.40 | thul | wtb python skills |
| 15:16.58 | fewyn | semi-hate or full on nerd rage hate? |
| 15:17.00 | Ellipsis | wtb cheeseburgar |
| 15:17.08 | Fisker- | nerd semi-hate |
| 15:17.08 | fewyn | mmmm cheeseburger |
| 15:17.32 | fewyn | i wish people would stop undercutting me on the ah |
| 15:17.43 | fewyn | i was making nice profit on stuff until they started doing this :( |
| 15:17.51 | fewyn | now i can't even turn a profit |
| 15:18.09 | Fisker- | i was stupid >:E |
| 15:18.18 | Fisker- | Voids are worth shit on our server at the moment |
| 15:18.25 | Fisker- | so sold it instead of 2 LPS for double profit |
| 15:18.27 | Fisker- | :( |
| 15:18.34 | fewyn | >_> |
| 15:18.47 | Fisker- | of course with 32k it's not like i'm in dire need or anything |
| 15:19.09 | fewyn | i have about 5k |
| 15:19.17 | fewyn | but i'm looking to get some sunwell crafted gear |
| 15:20.14 | nevcairiel | for the last month on live? |
| 15:20.26 | fewyn | month? |
| 15:20.34 | nevcairiel | maybe 2 |
| 15:20.35 | nevcairiel | : |
| 15:20.36 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 15:20.37 | fewyn | 2-3 months and i still have to kill illidan |
| 15:20.48 | fewyn | which will happen |
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| 15:29.07 | CIA-51 | 037destiny * r81540 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: StatLogicLib: koKR Update for WotLK Gem(thanks jyounk1m) |
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| 15:31.19 | Valhallaresa | fewyn: illidan's easy, but annoying. |
| 15:31.37 | Valhallaresa | my last guild fell apart after downing illidan due to drama |
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| 15:32.49 | KriLL3 | yay drama |
| 15:33.10 | thul | drama, THE DRAMA |
| 15:33.28 | thul | voids go for 30g on our server |
| 15:33.36 | KriLL3 | my last guild was torn in pieces from drama |
| 15:33.42 | fewyn | well |
| 15:33.51 | thul | my last guild was disbanded beacause we all grew up :-( |
| 15:33.55 | fewyn | my group is waiting for the main raid to kill KJ |
| 15:34.02 | fewyn | then we can focus on plowing through BT |
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| 15:35.36 | Valhallaresa | nice |
| 15:35.50 | Valhallaresa | how large is your guild if you can do that?? |
| 15:36.10 | KriLL3 | omg, Peter Stormare is the voice actor on the main guy in Mercs2... why... |
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| 15:40.52 | CIA-51 | 03tifi * r81541 10LibQuickHealth-2.0/LibQuickHealth-2.0.lua: |
| 15:40.52 | CIA-51 | LibQuickHealth-2.0: Make it easier for addon authors to add the library as an optional dependency. |
| 15:40.52 | CIA-51 | - Added another event UnitHealthUpdated(unitID, health, healthMax) which fires for unitIDs instead of GUIDs. |
| 15:40.52 | CIA-51 | - Small API change: It's LQH.UnitHealth(unitID) now instead of LQH:UnitHealth(unitID). Added LQH:GetHealth(unitID). |
| 15:40.55 | CIA-51 | - HealthUpdated now fires only if the health changes instead of every time UNIT_HEALTH fires. |
| 15:40.59 | CIA-51 | - More documentation and code examples. |
| 15:42.42 | Esine | hm.. LibQuickHealth is much like LibMobHealth, but possibly more accurate? |
| 15:44.00 | KriLL3 | "Perception: changed to a passive, now grants one character level of passive stealth detection" yay |
| 15:44.14 | Esine | KriLL3, isn't that way, way worse? |
| 15:44.19 | KriLL3 | no |
| 15:44.19 | Tifi | Esine, no, lqh is for players (health values are known), lmh is for mobs (health values are unknown) |
| 15:44.25 | Esine | now Perception grants many character levels when activated |
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| 15:44.33 | Esine | but one character level as passive ability.. that's not much |
| 15:44.49 | Esine | Tifi, how would health values be known? |
| 15:44.55 | Tifi | s/players/players in your party or raid/ |
| 15:44.57 | Esine | oh! for players in your group? |
| 15:44.58 | Esine | riiight |
| 15:45.02 | KriLL3 | I'm a non human stealther, it's yay. |
| 15:45.05 | Tifi | :) |
| 15:45.17 | Esine | KriLL3, yes, it's yay for us :) but worse for humans |
| 15:45.21 | Valhallaresa | I like the feign-death part. |
| 15:45.32 | KriLL3 | idiotic that humans got a huge edge against stealthers in the arena |
| 15:45.45 | Valhallaresa | A lot of the time it doesn't pick anyone up. |
| 15:45.47 | Esine | idiotic that dwarves are the best class for rogues with stoneform |
| 15:46.10 | Esine | idiotic that taurens can stun you :( |
| 15:46.38 | fewyn | i'm bored |
| 15:46.38 | KriLL3 | Esine: well stoneform has a 3 min cooldown, and lasts 8 seconds |
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| 15:46.59 | Esine | KriLL3, I guess you didn't pick up the best part of stoneform. It removes bleeds. imba for pvp |
| 15:47.11 | Esine | Valhallaresa, is that patch in beta now? is it like the hunter's feign death ability? |
| 15:47.19 | KriLL3 | Esine: just use fearie fire |
| 15:47.23 | fewyn | i didn't know i had stoneform on my priest until 4 years later =p |
| 15:47.28 | Esine | KriLL3, cloak of shadows |
| 15:47.43 | KriLL3 | also on a cooldown |
| 15:47.47 | Esine | yeah 1 minute |
| 15:47.54 | Esine | 45 seconds with new talents in wotlk |
| 15:48.03 | KriLL3 | that's way too short |
| 15:48.12 | KriLL3 | how long duration is it? |
| 15:48.14 | Esine | it's 1.5 min by default but the talents make it short |
| 15:48.16 | Esine | 5 sceonds |
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| 15:48.23 | nuoHep | its actually 1.3min base and 1min with talents in wotlk |
| 15:48.29 | nuoHep | 1.5 |
| 15:48.33 | nocts | Zhinjio: !!!!!!! |
| 15:48.34 | Esine | really? that's not how I read nuoHep |
| 15:48.37 | nocts | Zhinjio: I has beta key for you |
| 15:48.40 | Esine | the talents should shave off 60 seconds |
| 15:48.49 | nocts | !seen Zhinjio |
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| 15:48.53 | nuoHep | you want a screenshot? :p |
| 15:49.03 | Esine | do you have two points in the talent? ;) |
| 15:49.05 | nocts | !last Zhinjio |
| 15:49.12 | Ellipsis | ~seen Zhinjio |
| 15:49.35 | purl | zhinjio is currently on #wowace #curseforge, last said: 'Good evening.'. |
| 15:49.42 | Esine | oh, you're right nuoHep. I must've misread |
| 15:49.52 | Esine | it is 30 seconds with two points :( |
| 15:49.57 | nuoHep | I actually don't have it but it reduces by 15/30 |
| 15:50.01 | Fisker- | ~destroy Ellipsis |
| 15:50.02 | purl | no |
| 15:50.04 | Esine | yeah. |
| 15:50.06 | Fisker- | i hate you purl |
| 15:50.16 | Ellipsis | :d |
| 15:50.20 | Fisker- | :e |
| 15:50.25 | Esine | :g |
| 15:50.36 | Fisker- | :k |
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| 15:59.20 | CIA-51 | 03tifi * r81542 10LibQuickHealth-2.0/LibQuickHealth-2.0.lua: |
| 15:59.20 | CIA-51 | LibQuickHealth-2.0: moar docs |
| 15:59.20 | CIA-51 | - "UnitHealthUpdated replaces not only UNIT_HEALTH, but also UNIT_MAXHEALTH [...]" |
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| 16:01.00 | Esine | Tifi is spamming the channel :[ |
| 16:01.01 | GoldPush | How on earth do I enter button hotkey configmode in bongos3 ? |
| 16:02.03 | Tifi | i'm completely innocent, CIA-51 is the culprit |
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| 16:02.31 | Pkekyo| | in win XP...is starting folder windows in a new process a good thing? |
| 16:02.36 | Stanzilla | GoldPush: try /kb |
| 16:02.52 | GoldPush | omg that works =) thx awesome |
| 16:02.58 | Stanzilla | np |
| 16:03.35 | CIA-51 | 03elsia * r81543 10/branches/AutoProfitY/: |
| 16:03.37 | CIA-51 | AutoProfitY: |
| 16:03.39 | CIA-51 | - Fixed externals |
| 16:04.01 | [SW]Dodge | Pkekyo|: i wish vista would have folder windows in own processes! hate if they die and fuckup my whole desktop :/ |
| 16:04.06 | Esine | Pkekyo|, generally Windows is slower working with multiple processes than threads. The only thing you would gain from it that I can think is if explorer.exe crashes it wouldn't take down all explorers. |
| 16:04.20 | Pkekyo| | ok, I won't bother then |
| 16:04.24 | [SW]Dodge | most trayicons disapper like icq/msn/irc etc |
| 16:04.25 | [SW]Dodge | :( |
| 16:04.36 | [SW]Dodge | so i have to restart them all or reboot |
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| 16:11.15 | fewyn | watch bleach movie? yes or no? |
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| 16:12.16 | [SW]Dodge | yes^^ |
| 16:13.30 | Primer | It seems that doing frameName:SetScript("OnUpdate", nil) doesn't work |
| 16:13.46 | Primer | My code is definitely reaching that point, but the OnUpdate continues |
| 16:14.53 | Josh_Borke | Primer: then you're doing it wrong |
| 16:14.57 | Primer | Does it matter that I'm unsetting the OnUpdate within the OnUpdate handler? |
| 16:15.17 | Josh_Borke | no |
| 16:15.28 | Primer | http://sh.nu/p/24883 |
| 16:15.33 | Primer | it's very small |
| 16:15.37 | Primer | line 33 |
| 16:16.08 | Josh_Borke | i have no idea how to manage pitbull |
| 16:16.19 | Primer | forget that the word pitbull is there |
| 16:16.22 | Josh_Borke | but instead of futzing with the OnUpdate script, just put in a quick jump out |
| 16:16.23 | Primer | it doesn't matter |
| 16:17.18 | Josh_Borke | well, except for the fact that PitBull_ProfileSwitcher isn't a frame and no where does self.dummyFrame equate to a frame |
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| 16:17.34 | Primer | ahhh, ok |
| 16:17.49 | Primer | I keep forgetting that "self" isn't always what I expect |
| 16:17.56 | Ominous | Gnarfoz: ping |
| 16:18.10 | Throngy | speaking of pitbull (well, kinda) can someone point me at an addon that does a good (and somewhat simpler) job of embedding dogtag? |
| 16:19.15 | ckknight | CowTip? |
| 16:19.22 | ckknight | it's a different way |
| 16:20.01 | Throngy | ok i'll check it out tonight |
| 16:20.40 | [SW]Dodge | Throngy: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Lunatic/ <- but with DogTag2 (and i'm not sure if it was the best way to implement it, lol^^) |
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| 16:21.53 | Primer | excellent, it's working |
| 16:21.55 | Throngy | thanks guys |
| 16:21.58 | Primer | Josh_Borke: thanks |
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| 16:24.45 | [SW]Dodge | Lol there is a dot timer called "Ellipsis" :D |
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| 16:25.44 | digmouse | any good tank here? we got stuck at bloodboil, the tanks cant get enough threat, and any tank can not get 1st threat easily |
| 16:26.32 | Deadhawk | What's the tanks group setup for a start? |
| 16:26.47 | digmouse | 2 prot warrior and a prot pally |
| 16:26.52 | Tifi | are they wearing +hit, expertise? |
| 16:27.07 | Tifi | rage potions help, too |
| 16:27.13 | digmouse | let me check armory |
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| 16:27.44 | Deadhawk | Make sure the warriors have WF totem and the pala has the spell DPS totems, I presume your hunters are using MD rotations? |
| 16:27.47 | digmouse | their threat is not high enough and DPS wont go |
| 16:28.04 | digmouse | ye, 2 hunters in a MD rotation |
| 16:28.07 | Tifi | did he enrage? |
| 16:29.02 | digmouse | Bloodboil? 10 min |
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| 16:30.14 | Deadhawk | Our tanks never had any problems with threat as long as they had the right totems and an odd MD now and again. All I can presume is that their ability rotations are incorrect |
| 16:30.40 | digmouse | I think so too. They dont have totems |
| 16:30.50 | Deadhawk | Give them totems |
| 16:30.53 | Deadhawk | Thats a massive boost |
| 16:31.35 | digmouse | and how much hit and expertise they need? |
| 16:31.38 | Deadhawk | Like I said, the warriors should have Windfury and the Prot Paladin should have Totem of Wrath etc |
| 16:32.14 | digmouse | 9% hit enough? |
| 16:32.18 | Tifi | yes |
| 16:32.29 | digmouse | and expertise? |
| 16:32.31 | Tifi | my question was: when you hit the enrage timer, and all of you dds stay alive (not pulling aggro), what's his hp %? |
| 16:32.46 | Tifi | 13.75% is the cap, so.. as much as possible i gues |
| 16:32.47 | Tifi | s |
| 16:32.59 | digmouse | 28% 7:30, far from good |
| 16:33.10 | digmouse | that time is not enough |
| 16:33.20 | Deadhawk | Well our MT has 118 hit and 27 exp in the gear he uses for BT and he has 0 problems |
| 16:33.24 | digmouse | OT at 28% and wipe |
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| 16:33.53 | Tifi | well at 7:30 hes supposed to be at ~25% so thats ok |
| 16:34.39 | CIA-51 | 03tifi * r81544 10LibQuickHealth-2.0/LibQuickHealth-2.0.lua: LibQuickHealth-2.0: typo |
| 16:35.41 | Tifi | dds can overnuke when hes at 5-10%, and you have 2 shield walls |
| 16:35.57 | digmouse | MT only has 35 hit, shit |
| 16:36.07 | digmouse | and the Off Tank 88 |
| 16:36.29 | Deadhawk | Get a moonkin in there with 3/3 imp FF ;) |
| 16:37.58 | digmouse | we even dont have a feral druid |
| 16:38.08 | Deadhawk | You dont really need one |
| 16:38.08 | digmouse | got lots of pally and priest |
| 16:38.38 | Deadhawk | Do your DPS know that theres no aggro in the Fel Rage phase? Your overall DPS seems a little low |
| 16:39.01 | digmouse | in normal stage tanks dont get enough threat |
| 16:39.14 | digmouse | and in that stage the DPS wont go up |
| 16:39.24 | Tifi | are you really really sure that threat is your problem? |
| 16:39.36 | Tifi | this encounter is supposed to be about healers |
| 16:39.51 | digmouse | sure, all the tanks got only 600-700 TPS |
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| 16:40.05 | Deadhawk | With the debuffs your tanks will be getting, they should have need 100 rage all the time |
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| 16:40.08 | digmouse | healer got no problem, we never get Fel Raged person down |
| 16:40.17 | Deadhawk | Then I guess they need to sort out their ability rotations |
| 16:40.22 | Tifi | why do you wipe at 7:30? |
| 16:41.07 | digmouse | OT |
| 16:41.14 | digmouse | Over Taunt |
| 16:41.28 | Tifi | what is that? o.O |
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| 16:41.53 | Deadhawk | Ah, perhaps let your tanks tank a little longer per person |
| 16:42.04 | Deadhawk | Before the next tank takes over |
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| 16:42.21 | digmouse | ok that is a non tank player get passed Main Threat |
| 16:42.50 | Tifi | well, then target that person, and type in /slap |
| 16:43.13 | digmouse | what we got is: no enough threat in normal stage, the 3 tank are hard to take over each other |
| 16:43.39 | digmouse | always one tank much higher and get 10+ debuffs stacked on him |
| 16:43.55 | Tifi | no no, what you got are dds that do too much threat |
| 16:44.27 | digmouse | some mage shoot only 2 or 3 Frostbolt and that's passing 90% main threat |
| 16:44.42 | digmouse | the tanks got only 600-700 TPS |
| 16:45.00 | Tifi | that's normal |
| 16:45.24 | Tifi | just tell your dds that they really have to watch omen |
| 16:45.39 | digmouse | weird, we dont get much DPS in normal stage and the threat is pretty high |
| 16:45.43 | digmouse | we all get omen |
| 16:45.58 | Valhallaresa | are you all updated? |
| 16:46.10 | Tifi | warriors and palas are very bad at building threat when they don't get hit |
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| 16:46.41 | Tifi | even priests spamming group heals should keep an eye on omen |
| 16:46.56 | digmouse | all the newest, the oldest one is r79785 |
| 16:46.56 | Valhallaresa | I've never needed to. o.O |
| 16:47.06 | Deadhawk | Then perhaps, contradictory to what I said before, shorten their tank tank per tank |
| 16:47.14 | Valhallaresa | CoH spam ftw? |
| 16:47.37 | Deadhawk | err, tank time per tank* |
| 16:47.43 | Tifi | yea, one of our priests died because of coh spam ^^ |
| 16:48.14 | Valhallaresa | yeah.. thats when you start tossing out ProM to piss off the DPS. >.> |
| 16:48.25 | digmouse | I'll get tanks stack some hit and expertise |
| 16:49.08 | Valhallaresa | my thoughts on anything before Mother: always play how low, use ProMs as much as possible to make DPS watch Omen |
| 16:49.20 | Tifi | digmouse, i suggest you hit the enrage timer with everyone alive first, then worry about your tanks' threat |
| 16:50.10 | digmouse | thanks Tifi, I'll try |
| 16:50.27 | digmouse | get tanks hit and expertise and make the rotation better |
| 16:50.41 | digmouse | maybe take 3 hunters in a MD rotation |
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| 16:54.55 | Tifi | wait Valhallaresa, prom threat is attributed to the ppl getting healed? |
| 16:55.13 | Valhallaresa | Yes. |
| 16:55.18 | Valhallaresa | in Beta, its bugged. |
| 16:55.40 | Tifi | oh ok |
| 16:55.40 | Valhallaresa | This is why priests always ProM a tank before pulls |
| 16:55.47 | Valhallaresa | instant extra aggro for tank |
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| 16:56.42 | digmouse | care i post out tanks' armory and give me some gear suggestion? |
| 16:56.47 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Funkeh`] by ChanServ |
| 16:57.05 | Tifi | xD |
| 16:57.34 | digmouse | http://cn.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=%E7%B4%A2%E6%8B%89%E4%B8%81&n=%E5%B7%B4%E9%BB%8E%E6%98%A5%E5%A4%A9 maybe you'll need to change language |
| 16:58.18 | Funkeh` | I wonder if people are actually goiong to buy spore >.< |
| 16:58.34 | digmouse | http://cn.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=%E7%B4%A2%E6%8B%89%E4%B8%81&n=%E6%A9%84%E6%A6%84%E6%A0%91 |
| 16:58.45 | digmouse | Funkeh: why? |
| 16:59.07 | Funkeh` | I personally think it's an overdone version of the sims |
| 16:59.22 | digmouse | but that's fun |
| 16:59.28 | ckknight | I like The Sims |
| 16:59.29 | Funkeh` | No, no it's not |
| 17:00.00 | ckknight | Funkeh`: you seen http://www.amazon.com/review/product/B000FKBCX4/ ? |
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| 17:00.17 | Funkeh` | Also lets not forget, "Well the E is basically down here sucking my left ball, and over here is the A sucking my right ball, all-in-all EA is sucking both ma balls" |
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| 17:01.51 | Funkeh` | ckknight, lulz |
| 17:01.54 | Funkeh` | nice 1 stars |
| 17:02.07 | ckknight | yea |
| 17:02.16 | digmouse | Tifi and Deadhawk u there? |
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| 17:03.36 | Tifi | well i can't look into you tank's bags ^^ |
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| 17:04.20 | digmouse | o.O why |
| 17:04.31 | Tifi | i like the badge items (neck, wrist, pants) for expertise, and there are a couple items from MH with +hit |
| 17:05.21 | Tifi | if damage taken becomes a problem (too many debuff stacks), you still have blessing of protection |
| 17:05.56 | digmouse | we may give up bloodboil for some weeks and farming Hyjal and #1-3 of BT to get them more hit and exp |
| 17:06.06 | Tifi | ._. |
| 17:06.25 | Tifi | or, just tell your dds not to pull aggro |
| 17:06.26 | digmouse | maybe change for RoS |
| 17:06.33 | Valhallaresa | roS is worse than BB |
| 17:06.37 | Tifi | lol yea thats easier |
| 17:06.48 | Fisker- | slaps Funkeh` around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:08.13 | digmouse | that debuff can be get rid of by BoP? |
| 17:08.19 | Tifi | no |
| 17:08.31 | digmouse | make him lose threat? |
| 17:08.55 | Valhallaresa | on the MT if the other 2 can't keep up, yeah.. |
| 17:08.57 | Tifi | temporarily, but at least he won't get any more melee hits and debuff stacks |
| 17:09.41 | Tifi | the 2nd on threat gets aggro and has it easier to build up threat |
| 17:10.14 | digmouse | we've done that I thought |
| 17:10.23 | Tifi | but more +hit and exp is always a tradeoff, you'll lose dodge etc |
| 17:11.16 | digmouse | Think dodge or parry is not enough for our warrior off tank |
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| 17:13.23 | Poul|Raider | 0xF130003E9C001AF5 , Guid >>= 6; return (Guid & 0x000FFFFFFF); should this not return the 0000003E9C (the id of the mob) ?? |
| 17:14.47 | Tifi | probably not |
| 17:15.07 | Tifi | one hex digit is 4 bit, not 1 |
| 17:15.15 | Tifi | Guid >>= 6*4 |
| 17:15.18 | Poul|Raider | lol :) |
| 17:15.19 | Poul|Raider | thx |
| 17:15.27 | Poul|Raider | stupid me! |
| 17:19.25 | NeoTron | "Dear Blizzard. M'uru burned me out as a raid leader. What can you do to help?" |
| 17:19.51 | SNiLD | "Have a cookie" |
| 17:20.32 | NeoTron | I don't know if I have it in me to work on Kil'jaeden |
| 17:20.45 | NeoTron | don't get me wrong, I want to kill him but I don't know if I can. |
| 17:20.49 | Lukian | take up smoking |
| 17:21.04 | NeoTron | err. no. I might be burned out on raiding but I'm not stupid |
| 17:21.13 | Lukian | raid leader on vent the other night "How will I ever quit smoking when you guys raid like this?" |
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| 17:21.53 | CIA-51 | 03elsia * r81545 10Recount/ (GUI_Detail.lua Recount_Modes.lua Tracker.lua): |
| 17:21.53 | CIA-51 | Recount: |
| 17:21.53 | CIA-51 | - Set up new overkill and missAmount fields for WotLK combat log |
| 17:21.53 | CIA-51 | - Fixed bug when reporting summary details when no damage was taken. |
| 17:21.54 | CIA-51 | - Fixed a bug in Activity mode when data is empty |
| 17:21.58 | NeoTron | good argument for 10-man raiding if you ask me |
| 17:22.15 | Lukian | Is an "Overkill" meter being added? :D |
| 17:22.25 | [SW]Dodge | what is overkill? :O |
| 17:22.30 | NeoTron | overhealing for damage |
| 17:22.34 | Tifi | hey digmouse, according to http://rehfeld.us/wow/wws-tps/ i had a whopping 545 tps on our last BB kill, the other tanks had 469(warrior) and 642(druid) |
| 17:22.35 | NeoTron | meaning you did more dmg than themob had health |
| 17:22.36 | [SW]Dodge | ah |
| 17:22.41 | SNiLD | lol nice :-D |
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| 17:23.26 | SNiLD | isn't overdamage more appropiate term? |
| 17:23.43 | NeoTron | but OVERKILL is cooler for their arena announcers |
| 17:23.48 | NeoTron | soon we'll also get KILLING SPREE |
| 17:23.50 | NeoTron | and stuff |
| 17:23.53 | digmouse | Tifi: so that mean our dds get too much threat? |
| 17:24.01 | NeoTron | to make the true transition int FPSRPG |
| 17:24.07 | NeoTron | MMOFPS :P |
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| 17:24.22 | digmouse | but in normal stage even our healer pulled aggro |
| 17:24.59 | vithos | pulled aggro, or got aggro when the knockback happened? |
| 17:25.08 | digmouse | pulled |
| 17:25.18 | digmouse | our tank got 600-700 TPS |
| 17:25.28 | Deadhawk | I dont think that should occur in the first place, however a fix would be to get your other healers doing more so the healer that pulled aggro wont have to heal so much in the first place |
| 17:26.08 | Deadhawk | But that would also mean your healer is doing about 1600HPS |
| 17:26.21 | digmouse | so that's weird |
| 17:26.41 | digmouse | that's why I think our tanks do too low threat |
| 17:27.57 | Zenom | 600-700 TPS? |
| 17:28.01 | Zenom | are they in blues or t4? |
| 17:28.41 | NivFreak | BB is odd |
| 17:28.45 | smcn | is this the part where someone says lolattunements? |
| 17:28.46 | NivFreak | but that seems low |
| 17:29.05 | NeoTron | ah the "we killed M'uru" recruits |
| 17:29.14 | NeoTron | the ones that come every time you kill a boss they are wiping on |
| 17:29.25 | NivFreak | actually |
| 17:29.30 | Zenom | unless of course the healer pulled during the rage phase of BB |
| 17:29.33 | NivFreak | digmouse: that's pretty close to what my tanks are doing on BB |
| 17:29.41 | NeoTron | BB threat typically seems low |
| 17:29.48 | NivFreak | well, there's also phase 2 |
| 17:29.53 | NivFreak | which we don't build threat during |
| 17:29.57 | NivFreak | and I know I have to throttle way back |
| 17:30.02 | NivFreak | so I don't smoke the non-focused tanks |
| 17:30.15 | Zenom | ya i know as a melee we don't even dps for a while |
| 17:30.18 | Zenom | because we would be pulling |
| 17:30.36 | NeoTron | a typical fight where tank TPS doesn ot scale with player DPS |
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| 17:30.38 | digmouse | sometimes our rogue even pull |
| 17:30.54 | Zenom | bad rogue? |
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| 17:31.15 | digmouse | some mage shoot 2 or 3 frostbolts with no crit and he pull |
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| 17:31.29 | Zenom | they are probably not waiting long enough to dps then |
| 17:31.36 | digmouse | I have to FD after 3 or 4 auto and steady |
| 17:32.27 | Zenom | we don't dps for the entire phase 1 |
| 17:32.34 | Zenom | and we have no problems |
| 17:33.15 | Zenom | other than that watch omen, rogues, hunters, etc shouldn't be pulling since they have an aggro dump |
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| 17:34.01 | digmouse | I do think our tanks need some gear tuning |
| 17:34.13 | Zenom | could just be rotations too |
| 17:34.27 | Zenom | hard to say |
| 17:34.29 | digmouse | ye, rotations is another |
| 17:34.42 | digmouse | they need do more threat |
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| 17:35.18 | digmouse | anyway I'll suggest them get some totems |
| 17:35.25 | NivFreak | this is a nice TPS tool |
| 17:35.28 | NivFreak | much better than my last one |
| 17:35.44 | NivFreak | my teron last night: http://rehfeld.us/wow/wws-tps/report-49500 |
| 17:36.02 | NivFreak | and my personal BB threat (top of tanks): http://rehfeld.us/wow/wws-tps/report-49491 |
| 17:36.03 | Valhallaresa | well, if you wanted you could also get some priests to Prom & druids to LB tanks to contribute to more threat... |
| 17:36.11 | Valhallaresa | not much, but if threats that much of an issue.. |
| 17:36.25 | digmouse | our raid is pretty bad at those hit and run bosses |
| 17:36.47 | digmouse | we wiped a hole night on our 1st Supremus kill |
| 17:37.01 | NivFreak | that's pretty bad |
| 17:37.08 | NivFreak | although |
| 17:37.12 | NivFreak | we still have like 7 people die |
| 17:37.14 | NivFreak | every kill |
| 17:37.36 | NivFreak | I think we 2 shotted him the first time, just because of healers not being near tanks on a transition |
| 17:37.38 | digmouse | some get killed on staring more killed on volcanos |
| 17:37.41 | Valhallaresa | my old guild used to clear BT in 2 nights, and only 1-shotted Supremus the first time. |
| 17:38.01 | Valhallaresa | Its the same thing with mother tho. >.> |
| 17:38.05 | NivFreak | We've only ever wiped to supremus once |
| 17:38.09 | digmouse | half of our raid is fully BT geared |
| 17:38.13 | NivFreak | but a lot of people die ;P |
| 17:38.14 | Deadhawk | Silly question but AceEvent-3.0 doesnt need CallbackHandler-1.0 or AceBucket-3.0 to work does it? |
| 17:38.31 | digmouse | and the other half is totally freshman to 25-raid |
| 17:38.32 | NivFreak | it's really pretty hard to die on that fight |
| 17:38.36 | NivFreak | only if you do stupid things |
| 17:39.01 | Valhallaresa | i got hateful'd once while healing. >.> |
| 17:39.01 | digmouse | but some do stupid thing |
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| 17:39.52 | Valhallaresa | because the tank was an idiot, and didn't move supremus into the right spot. :( |
| 17:40.19 | vithos | there's a right spot? |
| 17:40.42 | Valhallaresa | my old guild had a specific spot for tank & spank phase. |
| 17:41.10 | vithos | weird |
| 17:41.11 | digmouse | once we tanked him after a kite phase, and he stuck |
| 17:41.23 | digmouse | we cannnot attack him and he killed us all |
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| 17:42.59 | NivFreak | so let's see |
| 17:43.03 | NivFreak | looking at recent mother kills |
| 17:43.11 | NivFreak | 11 vanq tokens, 7 prot, 3 conq |
| 17:43.15 | NivFreak | gg blizzard |
| 17:43.18 | Valhallaresa | opposite |
| 17:43.22 | NivFreak | and I have more people on conq than anything else |
| 17:43.24 | Valhallaresa | too many conq. |
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| 17:44.10 | NeoTron | NivFreak: random is teh bestest |
| 17:44.24 | NivFreak | yas |
| 17:44.30 | NivFreak | it's ok |
| 17:44.36 | NivFreak | warlocks don't need 4pc t6 *cough* |
| 17:45.14 | sacarasc | NivFreak: just be glad that you get to kill her at all ;( |
| 17:45.31 | NivFreak | how can you not kill her? |
| 17:45.34 | NivFreak | she's a resist check |
| 17:45.34 | thul | hey ho, let's go |
| 17:45.51 | sacarasc | we've only downed 3 in BT |
| 17:45.51 | Valhallaresa | Mother's a moron check |
| 17:45.58 | Valhallaresa | which is made easier with that mother mod. |
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| 17:46.04 | NivFreak | mother mod? |
| 17:46.09 | NeoTron | never had an "easy" mother mod |
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| 17:46.21 | NeoTron | only mother mod I tried insisted on enabling itself on all bosses EXCEPT mother :P |
| 17:46.48 | NivFreak | We have 1-2 ports on top of the raid, and 1 on top of the tanks on almost every pull |
| 17:46.52 | Valhallaresa | lemme find it. |
| 17:46.58 | NivFreak | my rule of thumb is, if we lose more than 1 person per 10% |
| 17:47.00 | NivFreak | I leash |
| 17:47.03 | NivFreak | and we re-pull |
| 17:47.04 | Valhallaresa | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/easy-mother/ |
| 17:47.15 | NivFreak | I've only had to leash a couple times |
| 17:48.25 | NivFreak | that's nuts |
| 17:48.25 | NivFreak | :P |
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| 17:48.52 | Valhallaresa | I actually had my sis's sis-in-law (pally) deliberately follow me to kill me, then bubbled |
| 17:48.58 | NivFreak | haha |
| 17:48.59 | CIA-51 | 03adirelle * r81547 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:49.05 | CIA-51 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 17:49.09 | CIA-51 | - WotLK: fixed buff time left detection, |
| 17:49.13 | CIA-51 | - trackings now fully use 2.3 API. |
| 17:49.26 | digmouse | and, any good hunter here? |
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| 17:49.38 | NivFreak | so did they finish the threat API in wrath yet? |
| 17:49.43 | NivFreak | do we have a meter that works with it? |
| 17:49.47 | NeoTron | Adirelle|work: so fixed the bugs you complained about ni ButtonBin (movement and the nil error). ;-) |
| 17:50.04 | thul | hmm, my wow client won't login anymore |
| 17:50.23 | Valhallaresa | just stuck on connecting? |
| 17:50.28 | thul | it hangs at the loginwindow |
| 17:50.31 | thul | known error? |
| 17:50.40 | Valhallaresa | are the login boxes not showing up? |
| 17:51.01 | thul | yeah, they are, and I'm inputting my password |
| 17:51.04 | thul | but then... hang |
| 17:51.37 | thul | hmm, every interaction with the login window makes it hang actually (tried to do "show lancher" checkbox now) |
| 17:51.41 | thul | interesting |
| 17:52.06 | NivFreak | also, why doesn't bigwigs flash and shake for all of council's AoEs? |
| 17:52.12 | NivFreak | it seems to just be blizzard |
| 17:54.13 | Deadhawk | hmm, I cant seem to register any events when using AceEvent-3.0, are there any differences between Ace 2 and 3 that are commonly overlooked? |
| 17:54.18 | digmouse | Now, we'll try use rogue tank if our tanks cant do it |
| 17:54.23 | Deadhawk | I have read the documentation but I guess I may of missed something |
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| 17:55.21 | CIA-51 | 037destiny * r81548 10Recount/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:55.21 | CIA-51 | Recount: |
| 17:55.21 | CIA-51 | - Added missing locale |
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| 17:59.38 | kagaro | anyone know what the new spell hit cap really is ? |
| 17:59.46 | kagaro | ive seen 2 numbers thrown around |
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| 18:01.16 | NeoTron | I am trying to figure out the same |
| 18:01.17 | kenlyric | 17% |
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| 18:01.22 | NeoTron | if I can play on a stable realm I'll test it |
| 18:01.26 | kenlyric | same as always |
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| 18:01.32 | NeoTron | kenlyric: tested and proven? |
| 18:01.33 | kenlyric | except now you can actually hit 17% |
| 18:01.35 | NeoTron | kenlyric: or guessing? |
| 18:01.41 | kenlyric | yes |
| 18:01.44 | kenlyric | for many weeks now |
| 18:02.08 | kenlyric | unless it changed in the last patch, but I haven't heard anything |
| 18:02.22 | kenlyric | it's confirmed by blue that you can hit 100% hit |
| 18:02.27 | Obelixprime | ^ |
| 18:02.56 | NivFreak | it's 9% |
| 18:02.58 | Obelixprime | Only actual spell resists on bosses will screw you |
| 18:02.59 | NivFreak | for spell hit cap |
| 18:03.03 | kenlyric | there's rumors flying around that they will make you only need 9% on bosses, but it's not happened |
| 18:03.05 | NivFreak | no hidden 1% remains |
| 18:03.09 | Cheads | I believe that's been confirmed twice by blue that you can get 100% hit |
| 18:03.36 | NivFreak | there was a link to the testing on sk-gamings forum |
| 18:03.38 | NivFreak | pegging it at 9% |
| 18:03.43 | NivFreak | with zero misses |
| 18:03.46 | NivFreak | on a +3 mob |
| 18:03.53 | NeoTron | link? |
| 18:04.11 | NeoTron | because 9% vs 17% is what I've heard but never seen numbers on |
| 18:04.47 | NivFreak | it was the threat linked off of mmo-champions |
| 18:04.50 | NivFreak | for the first naxx raids |
| 18:04.56 | NivFreak | thread even |
| 18:05.37 | Groktar | idk if 9% might be too low, but 17% is really high |
| 18:05.48 | Groktar | really hard to get |
| 18:06.06 | NivFreak | well, if you have an ele shaman and boomkin, some classes will need 0% hit on gear |
| 18:06.11 | NivFreak | with a 9% cap |
| 18:06.26 | kenlyric | especially now that there are no talents that give you free 10% spell hit |
| 18:06.31 | NivFreak | but really, 9% makes sense with what they are trying to do, as odd as that seems |
| 18:06.38 | NivFreak | since they want casters/healers sharing some portion of gear |
| 18:06.48 | Groktar | yeah |
| 18:06.56 | Groktar | it just seems that if it's so easy to get hit capped |
| 18:06.59 | kenlyric | ooops about hit |
| 18:07.02 | Groktar | why put miss in the game at all |
| 18:07.36 | NivFreak | it may have been easy in TBC |
| 18:07.40 | kenlyric | heals need hit |
| 18:07.47 | NivFreak | but the gear isn't as overloaded with it as it was in t6 |
| 18:08.18 | kenlyric | I require a link as proof |
| 18:08.38 | Valhallaresa | It hurts to see hit gear on items that are itemized towards healing. |
| 18:09.14 | kenlyric | NivFreak: I require a link as proof of 9% |
| 18:09.47 | NivFreak | I don't care? |
| 18:09.48 | NivFreak | go find it |
| 18:09.50 | NivFreak | I told you where |
| 18:09.53 | kenlyric | doesn't exist |
| 18:09.56 | kenlyric | so you lied |
| 18:10.05 | NivFreak | sure, if that makes you happy |
| 18:10.10 | NeoTron | NivFreak: I see people stating it's 9% but no links |
| 18:10.42 | NivFreak | gah, what was the name of the guy that did the testing... |
| 18:10.49 | NeoTron | the problem remains - claims w/o data |
| 18:11.29 | NivFreak | did you find the skgaming thread? |
| 18:11.40 | NeoTron | I'm looking on mmo champion |
| 18:11.45 | NeoTron | like you said |
| 18:14.00 | NeoTron | and no not finding anything on sk gaming site |
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| 18:23.10 | thul | http://www.break.com/pictures_nsfw/contacts562950.html <- titties |
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| 18:24.13 | Josh_Borke | Bear in mind that increasing your hit rating from gear also increases your chance to not miss on your poison delivery (since hit rating works for both melee and spell attacks now). So, if you have +8% hit chance (for example), you'd never fail to apply poison to even a night elf (barring some other additional poison resist that they manage to get somehow). |
| 18:25.24 | nevcairiel | that would be 6% miss on a player |
| 18:25.37 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: YOUR MOM |
| 18:25.38 | nevcairiel | or resist rather |
| 18:25.46 | thul | http://www.break.com/pictures_nsfw/lucy-becker-topless-at-beach-i562930.html <- moar boobs |
| 18:25.50 | *** mode/#wowace [-v Josh_Borke] by nevcairiel |
| 18:26.09 | Josh_Borke | whoa, since when did i have +v? o.O |
| 18:26.15 | Josh_Borke | oh wait |
| 18:26.17 | nevcairiel | you didnt |
| 18:26.19 | Josh_Borke | I DIDN'T! |
| 18:26.20 | Josh_Borke | loser |
| 18:26.40 | Josh_Borke | :-P |
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| 18:28.09 | thul | http://www.torsopants.com/not-funny-shirts/my-marxist-feminist-dialectic-brings-all-the-boys-to-the-yard < that rocks |
| 18:29.39 | NeoTron | http://www.ask8ball.net/ silly site buy damn that thing seems to be right on the money |
| 18:29.46 | NivFreak | wow |
| 18:29.46 | NeoTron | funny how random is so ... easy to "believe" :P |
| 18:29.51 | NivFreak | they took all the agility off warrior t6... |
| 18:30.03 | NivFreak | prot t6 |
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| 18:30.22 | nevcairiel | they did that with all tank sets |
| 18:30.25 | nevcairiel | got more strength |
| 18:30.51 | NivFreak | yea, but that's a fair amount of lost avoidance |
| 18:31.05 | NivFreak | I guess that'll make it more useful in the low level dungeons ;P |
| 18:31.28 | NivFreak | hrmm, they probably really will put a hard stop on raiding with the 3.x patch |
| 18:31.40 | nevcairiel | the new talents add a good amount of avoidance back :P |
| 18:31.55 | CIA-51 | 03adirelle * r81549 10SimpleSelfRebuff/SimpleSelfRebuff.lua: SimpleSelfRebuff: hopefully fixed "attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'timeEnd'". |
| 18:31.57 | NivFreak | true |
| 18:32.22 | kenlyric | http://www.torsopants.com/not-funny-shirts/what-cant-sporks-do-well-ill-tell-you-what-they-cant-do |
| 18:32.27 | NivFreak | wow |
| 18:32.32 | NivFreak | and they yanked my SB off my gloves |
| 18:32.33 | NivFreak | wth |
| 18:32.47 | nevcairiel | yeah they are nerfing blocking |
| 18:33.03 | nevcairiel | shield block has what cooldown now? |
| 18:33.06 | nevcairiel | rather high or so |
| 18:33.21 | NivFreak | yea, but still |
| 18:33.24 | NivFreak | natural block == win |
| 18:33.33 | NivFreak | so yea, they stripped a lot of mitigation/avoidance off t6 |
| 18:33.34 | nevcairiel | there are no crushings anymore |
| 18:33.35 | nevcairiel | so meh |
| 18:33.37 | NivFreak | I wonder how that will work out |
| 18:33.50 | NivFreak | block == mitigation :P |
| 18:33.51 | nevcairiel | the 500 dmg you block from a 8k hit |
| 18:33.52 | nevcairiel | shush :P |
| 18:33.52 | NivFreak | regardless |
| 18:33.57 | NivFreak | it adds up |
| 18:34.06 | NivFreak | and it's more lik 800 :P |
| 18:34.28 | NivFreak | and will be higher with all this str |
| 18:34.28 | Zyndrome | wow ... "ok wipe" on Felmyst, people run into the green mist, I just bubble and dance... suddenly, 3-4 massdispells |
| 18:34.34 | Zyndrome | clever, AI, clever |
| 18:34.53 | sb | haha :p |
| 18:35.08 | NeoTron | that is comical |
| 18:35.17 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: well see the plus side, you generate a shit-ton of threat |
| 18:35.49 | nevcairiel | Did they release info on the "helpful new pulling ability" yet? |
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| 18:38.44 | qwesto | nevcairiel, you mean http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=57755 ? |
| 18:39.05 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 18:39.07 | nevcairiel | yea |
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| 18:39.31 | nevcairiel | guess we need to spec the silence on that =P |
| 18:40.24 | Fisker- | SILENCE |
| 18:40.50 | dodga | i keel u? |
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| 18:42.47 | seracht | anyone know a command to see your ping in game? |
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| 18:43.13 | Trell- | hi, quick question, I've isntalled ButtonFacade - and now I have a movable bright green box on my screen that I can't get rid of - its name (using the /command to get framename) is FacadeBuffsFrame |
| 18:43.19 | Trell- | anyone got any idea how I can get rid of it? |
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| 18:50.19 | digmouse | Trell: what buff mod u r using? |
| 18:51.31 | Aens|Superiority | oh god. button facade and bt4 aren't alligned properly. Got circles which dont line up with the icons beneath. |
| 18:51.34 | seracht | wow, this sucks. Anyone here in EU ever try to play on US servers? |
| 18:51.50 | Gngsk | oh god! |
| 18:51.59 | Josh_Borke | seracht: check your latency |
| 18:52.07 | seracht | Josh_Borke ya..its 1500 |
| 18:52.10 | seracht | it was better yesterday |
| 18:52.13 | Aens|Superiority | Gngsk: it looks like someone vomitted on my action bars. Its pretty terrible. |
| 18:52.13 | seracht | dunno what happened |
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| 18:55.34 | Trell- | digmouse; Buffalo |
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| 19:04.41 | digmouse | Trell: I remember Buffalo need an extra addon to have button facade support? |
| 19:05.57 | Trell- | it's working fine :O |
| 19:06.11 | Trell- | the only problem I have is a big green box, apparently something related to buttonfacade :( |
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| 19:08.14 | Aeyan | In BasicBuffs and FacadeBuffs, the big green box just means it's unlocked. Been a long time since I used Buffalo, though. |
| 19:10.58 | ag` | something like /fb lock |
| 19:11.02 | ag` | or /facebuffs lock |
| 19:11.03 | ag` | dunno |
| 19:12.44 | Aeyan | Have to use the Interface Options panel for FacadeBuffs |
| 19:13.33 | Trell- | yeah |
| 19:13.43 | Trell- | /bf brings up the config screen |
| 19:13.50 | Trell- | but theres no way in there to remove the green box |
| 19:17.17 | Stanzilla | hm /bf is the buttonfacade option screen |
| 19:17.35 | Stanzilla | the green box just meens that it is unlocked |
| 19:17.43 | Stanzilla | so go to the options of your buff addon and lock it :P |
| 19:19.35 | Trell- | its Buffalo, and it is locked :( |
| 19:19.39 | Pkekyo| | downloading 2.4.2 takes complete fuckloads of time :< |
| 19:21.22 | Pkekyo| | ~ugt |
| 19:21.25 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 19:23.43 | Aens|Superiority | oh, haha. WUU reinstalled bartender3 by itself so the terrible UI thing was just bartender3 peaking out from underneath bartender 4 |
| 19:24.38 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:24.55 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 19:25.46 | Pkekyo| | I'm bored...more guns required! |
| 19:27.03 | Pucmel | Icecrown Citadel confirmed in post-release content patch |
| 19:27.05 | Pucmel | here you go |
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| 19:27.44 | GoldPush | is there a command/macro to drop something from your inventory |
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| 19:29.20 | Obelixprime | YOu're an Icecrown Citadel |
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| 19:34.58 | Adirelle | anyone tried the new beacon of light on the beta ? |
| 19:35.52 | Jygga | mhhhh bacon |
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| 19:36.34 | Nechckn | lol I thought Adirelle sais bacon, too! |
| 19:36.45 | Nechckn | thinks of tastey animal pieces |
| 19:36.54 | Adirelle | so ? |
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| 19:40.23 | Fisker- | i will hurt you Pkekyo| |
| 19:43.50 | Fisker- | believe in me nevcairiel |
| 19:48.41 | CIA-51 | 03adirelle * r81550 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (SimpleSelfRebuff.lua buffs/tracking.lua): SimpleSelfRebuff: only register spellbook trackings. |
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| 19:59.19 | TheOther | ~lart Pkekyo| |
| 19:59.20 | purl | takes out a cattle prod and gives Pkekyo| a good jolt |
| 19:59.42 | TheOther | bah, stupid dc's changing my nick.... |
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| 20:00.41 | Tinyboom | ahh, that's better :p now i can lart you proper Pkekyo| :p |
| 20:00.48 | Ominous | 1\qa3e4rtyui |
| 20:00.51 | Tinyboom | ~lart Pkekyo| |
| 20:00.51 | purl | whips out a sword and chops Pkekyo| in half |
| 20:01.01 | Tinyboom | and good night :) |
| 20:08.00 | Pkekyo| | why am I a target all of a sudden? |
| 20:08.55 | ReAn | If i change my AceConfig3 options table object do i need to re-register it? |
| 20:09.18 | *** join/#wowace Kolie2 (n=kraft@68.159.148.120) |
| 20:09.58 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 20:12.32 | Tifi | ~seen Phanx |
| 20:12.37 | purl | phanx <n=phanx133@adsl-69-228-193-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 89d 15h 24s ago, saying: 'hurrah, forums are alive!'. |
| 20:12.37 | ReAn | hrm, either my mod is failing hardcore, or im failing hardcore |
| 20:12.41 | ReAn | cuz my options isn't updating :( |
| 20:15.43 | Tifi | i believe there's a method to tell aceconfig that the table has changed |
| 20:19.31 | Tifi | why do you need to change the table btw? |
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| 20:39.22 | NeoTron | ReAn: you need to signal ace2 |
| 20:39.25 | NeoTron | ace3 eevn |
| 20:40.01 | Hjalte | Anyone else experiencing that Chrome gets really slow with wow open? |
| 20:40.33 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:41.24 | Archarodim | Hjalte: it hapend to me once but it was not only Chrome it was the whole Windows API that was laggy until I killed Chrome... |
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| 20:55.23 | Zyndrome | http://warhammeronlineeusignup.ytmnd.com/ |
| 20:58.07 | NeoTron | clear indication why world of warcraft is better than warhammer online |
| 20:58.15 | NeoTron | WoW vs WhO or WO |
| 20:58.26 | NeoTron | like "wow"! or "who"? |
| 21:00.04 | nevcairiel | warhammer has the official abrevation WAR |
| 21:00.25 | nevcairiel | Warhammer: Age of Reckoning |
| 21:00.53 | Zyndrome | Warhammer: Ages of Verification |
| 21:01.19 | Kuja^ | exactly :( |
| 21:01.27 | Jagobah | I was able to login yesterday O_o |
| 21:01.32 | Kuja^ | or: age of 414 xD |
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| 21:19.00 | thul | http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs36/i/2008/252/2/b/Liv_II_by_cainadamsson.jpg <- portrait of the day |
| 21:19.55 | nevcairiel | didnt we have one today already? |
| 21:20.18 | thul | hmm, we did? :-( bah, I'm coming out of countstuffthing |
| 21:21.04 | Zyndrome | there's a color stealing machine in your vicinity |
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| 21:21.54 | thul | I don't like color photos too much |
| 21:22.57 | Ellipsis | boobs? |
| 21:24.05 | thul | well, they are nice yes |
| 21:24.35 | Valhallaresa | boobs are annoying |
| 21:25.30 | Xelopheris | are beta servers down? O_o |
| 21:25.37 | Xelopheris | us* |
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| 21:31.54 | Valhallaresa | us beta servers are coming down, maybe 1 was brought down early? |
| 21:31.59 | Valhallaresa | or crashed |
| 21:32.59 | thul | Valhallaresa: I love boobs |
| 21:33.03 | Valhallaresa | lies |
| 21:33.14 | Valhallaresa | they're evil |
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| 21:34.36 | thul | I love them |
| 21:34.44 | thul | i can kiss them, play with them, massage them with oil, lick them.. |
| 21:38.50 | Dashkal | Valhallaresa: source on the beta going down? I missed that somewhere |
| 21:39.08 | Valhallaresa | my friend who's on beta right now. |
| 21:39.14 | Valhallaresa | popped up with a server msg |
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| 21:40.05 | Valhallaresa | maybe they're doing the fix for stormpeaks now they know the prob |
| 21:45.31 | CIA-51 | 03pericles 07WotLK * r81551 10ShockAndAwe/: |
| 21:45.31 | CIA-51 | ShockAndAwe: - |
| 21:45.31 | CIA-51 | Ace3 addons updated to trunk so changed lib svn paths |
| 21:53.35 | Ominous | hmm i spilt water over my laptop with it on and it now dosent turn on, what are the chances of it working when its dryed out? |
| 21:54.14 | thul | my GF is so weird |
| 21:54.22 | thul | 1 to 2342034 Ominous |
| 21:55.28 | Ominous | gah, will have to try to use the warrenty for it then :P |
| 21:59.49 | charon | some laptops have little drains that guide the water away from the internal stuff, in which case only your keyboard will suffer, if at all. and a keyboard should survive water as long as there's no sugar in it |
| 22:00.38 | Trell- | why the no sugar thing? |
| 22:00.43 | Trell- | <--- retarded |
| 22:00.56 | Ominous | yea but atm it only turns on every once in a while and then dosent make it past the first screen with boot options etc before cutting out |
| 22:01.06 | Xinhuan | sugar will cause dirt to stick |
| 22:01.34 | Ominous | spilt coke on my last laptop, was fine just needed a new keyboard |
| 22:01.45 | Ominous | as all the keys were sticky as hell |
| 22:02.04 | charon | sugar eventually gathers so much sticky dust under the keyboard contacts that they won't trigger any more |
| 22:02.06 | Ellipsis | you can just take the keyboard out and clean it :/ |
| 22:02.15 | charon | or so i figure. i haven't ruined any keyboards yet. |
| 22:02.16 | Xinhuan | not all laptops allow u to do that i think |
| 22:02.26 | Ellipsis | most modern laptops do at least |
| 22:02.42 | PProvost|work | Question: Lately I've noticed a number of addons stashing global functions into locals at the top of their source files. I'm guessing this is to ensure you have the originial if someone else hooks that global method. Is there some other reason to do this? |
| 22:02.52 | Ellipsis | speed |
| 22:02.52 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 22:02.56 | Xinhuan | speed is the reason |
| 22:02.59 | PProvost|work | Perf is better? |
| 22:03.05 | Xinhuan | slightly |
| 22:03.21 | *** part/#wowace ag` (n=ag`@89.150.189.251) |
| 22:03.25 | Xinhuan | if you used the global version of the function, say tonumber() |
| 22:03.28 | PProvost|work | Okay. I've also noticed people doing it with lua functions like "select". Same thinking there? |
| 22:03.38 | Xinhuan | you're actually looking up _G["tonumber"] and then executing the function |
| 22:03.48 | Xinhuan | if you have a "local tonumber = tonumber" |
| 22:03.50 | PProvost|work | So if you do it more than once... |
| 22:03.59 | Xinhuan | then you have a local variable reference to the global |
| 22:04.04 | PProvost|work | Okay. Makes sense. Just wanted to be sure I understood. |
| 22:04.04 | Xinhuan | so you save a table lookup |
| 22:04.19 | PProvost|work | Although honestly, I have to wonder how much perf this really saves. Sounds like nitpicking |
| 22:04.32 | Xinhuan | the amount of performance saved is minute |
| 22:04.42 | Xinhuan | its really only important in OnUpdate functions |
| 22:04.47 | PProvost|work | Gotcha |
| 22:04.50 | PProvost|work | Makes sense |
| 22:05.02 | PProvost|work | Or unless you're afraid of getting hooked |
| 22:05.14 | Xinhuan | it costs 4 bytes of memory anyhow, to create that extra local reference |
| 22:05.30 | PProvost|work | Perf costs memory. Memory saving costs perf. :) |
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| 22:06.48 | Xinhuan | generally speaking, you won't see much performance increase unless its over a loop that executes over 10k times |
| 22:06.58 | Xinhuan | when comparing local vs global |
| 22:07.15 | Xinhuan | at least, when referring to human perception that is |
| 22:08.58 | thul | why do blizzard block nicks like "lucifer"? |
| 22:09.33 | _SunTsu | thul: Just pull an Angel Heart and call yourself LouisCypher |
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| 22:10.00 | thul | I want to be Lucifer :-( |
| 22:10.10 | thul | or cheradenine |
| 22:12.38 | Ominous | would it be ovious to a technition that my laptop was damaged by water? |
| 22:14.50 | Xinhuan | probably |
| 22:14.52 | Xinhuan | why? |
| 22:15.25 | Ominous | got a warrenty for technical faults on laptop |
| 22:17.55 | Xinhuan | just let it dry out |
| 22:31.21 | NeoTron | I noticed even Blizzard does this now |
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| 22:33.14 | Fisker- | Xinhuan if it was damaged by water there would most likely be proof either way |
| 22:33.32 | Fisker- | Unless he like poured water on a laptop while it was running |
| 22:33.33 | Fisker- | >:E |
| 22:34.46 | steev | is there any way to set a hotkey for stance bars? |
| 22:35.19 | steev | on my rogue i'd like to not have some crappy bar setup just so i can set a hotkey for stealth |
| 22:38.28 | Diao | special action button 1-10 |
| 22:38.40 | Diao | default binding is ctrl+ f1-f10 |
| 22:41.55 | Ominous | Fisker-, i nocked about a normal sized glassworth of water over it while it was running |
| 22:42.17 | Ominous | though alot of it was mopped up with a cloth very quickly |
| 22:43.35 | steev | Diao: ahh okay thanks |
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| 22:54.24 | Fisker- | well as far as i know Ominous |
| 22:54.42 | Fisker- | drinking water isn't as obvious as saltwater :P |
| 22:55.56 | Ominous | well our house insurance covers accidental damage, so at the end of the day i will be ok |
| 22:56.07 | Ominous | just it will put our house insurance premium up i think |
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| 23:03.10 | CIA-51 | 03cncfanatics * r81552 10LibQuickHealth-2.0/LibQuickHealth-2.0.lua: LibQuickHealth-2.0: Some cosmetical changes and extra commenting |
| 23:07.06 | CIA-51 | 03cncfanatics * r81553 10LibQuickHealth-2.0/LibQuickHealth-2.0.lua: LibQuickHealth-2.0: Remove lifetap handling code as WotLK breaks it |
| 23:07.39 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: doesnt WotLK break the need for LQH anyway? |
| 23:08.04 | cncfanatics | no |
| 23:08.09 | cncfanatics | blizz fucked up their implementation, as usual |
| 23:08.15 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 23:08.59 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: see http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t26517-instant_health_updates/p6/#post874500 |
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| 23:11.03 | Arrowmaster | so what its only noticeably faster for the players health? |
| 23:11.42 | NeoTron | wait so using IH is about 0.015s faster? |
| 23:12.13 | NeoTron | if so... why bother? who would even notice a 0.015s difference? |
| 23:12.21 | cncfanatics | no, IH updates 0.015s after the combat log event triggered (one frame) |
| 23:12.33 | cncfanatics | the blizz one triggered max 8 times a second |
| 23:12.46 | cncfanatics | l2read :p (even though that guy's english sucks yes) |
| 23:13.19 | cncfanatics | "As of build 8885 setting the CVar predictedHealth to 1 does make a difference. Health updates went up from the 2-3 per sec up to 3-5 per sec, occasionally but rarely updating more (up to 8 updates in one second)." is the important part |
| 23:13.45 | Tifi | but it still has built in throttling? |
| 23:13.50 | Arrowmaster | from reading that he says the client and not instanthealth was updating on the next onupdate |
| 23:14.05 | Arrowmaster | instanthealth doesnt even have an onupdate afaik |
| 23:14.09 | cncfanatics | oh yes, I need to learn to read indeed |
| 23:14.18 | cncfanatics | still max up to 8 updates a sec though |
| 23:14.27 | thul | any hemorogues with glaives here? |
| 23:14.29 | cncfanatics | which is bothering, needs to be tested in raid setting |
| 23:14.39 | NeoTron | is 0.125s delay that bad? |
| 23:14.42 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:14.53 | NeoTron | a human would not see a large difference between that and 0.015s :P |
| 23:15.09 | cncfanatics | it adds up with lag |
| 23:15.11 | NeoTron | 0.125s is about the reaction time of someone with fast reactions |
| 23:15.12 | Arrowmaster | since you wouldnt even see the update until the next onupdate anyway |
| 23:15.12 | Tifi | 15ms = 1 frame at 66fps |
| 23:15.40 | cncfanatics | don't forget it adds up with your usual ms lag |
| 23:15.53 | Arrowmaster | instanthealth may update faster but it cant display any faster than the next onupdate |
| 23:16.06 | cncfanatics | if you're at 100ms ping you really get it 225ms after the health was lost |
| 23:16.16 | cncfanatics | compared to 115ms after the health was lost with instanthealth |
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| 23:16.34 | cncfanatics | (asuming frames update every 15ms) |
| 23:16.45 | Arrowmaster | so really its not 0.125s delay at all since both would update at exactly the same time for you to see it |
| 23:17.12 | cncfanatics | mmm, I don't think so |
| 23:17.49 | cncfanatics | you'll be improving your reaction speed by 110ms if you notice it 110ms sooner |
| 23:18.00 | cncfanatics | s/notice/get§ |
| 23:18.19 | cncfanatics | as you can only start reacting when its on your screen |
| 23:19.06 | vithos | at what point is the throttling triggered though |
| 23:19.31 | vithos | does it delay 125ms after the first update in a while, or only start delaying after 8 updates |
| 23:20.07 | Xinhuan | err wait, so blizz is including instant health on beta now? |
| 23:20.37 | cncfanatics | not really |
| 23:20.54 | Arrowmaster | sorta |
| 23:21.05 | cncfanatics | they throttled UnitHealth at 125ms and kept the UNIT_HEALTH throttle as 300ms as far as I can see |
| 23:21.43 | Xinhuan | still sounds reasonable |
| 23:21.57 | cncfanatics | means your 125ms slower in reaction time :) |
| 23:22.08 | Xinhuan | that's the worst case scenerio |
| 23:22.14 | Arrowmaster | wait they are updating UnitHealth() faster than they fire UNIT_HEALTH? |
| 23:22.16 | Xinhuan | on avg it would be 63 ms |
| 23:22.19 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: yep |
| 23:22.24 | Arrowmaster | thats kinda silly |
| 23:22.25 | Tifi | that's so ridiculous, libquickhealth is so soft on the cpu, i really don't understand why they have throttling at all |
| 23:22.38 | Arrowmaster | Tifi: bandwidth |
| 23:22.41 | cncfanatics | no |
| 23:22.42 | Xinhuan | or only 40ms slower than using instanthealth |
| 23:22.45 | cncfanatics | UnitHealth computes clientside |
| 23:22.54 | cncfanatics | and you get a UNIT_HEALTH packet every 300ms serverside |
| 23:23.04 | cncfanatics | wotlk is not bringing a single more update from the server |
| 23:23.39 | Tifi | they could just add like 3 bytes to a CLEU packet |
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| 23:23.58 | cncfanatics | tbe extra computing they're doing when the predictedHealth CVAR is 1 is totaly clientside |
| 23:24.03 | cncfanatics | s/tbe/the/ |
| 23:24.23 | Arrowmaster | Tifi: except the server doesnt even process the info that fast |
| 23:24.42 | cncfanatics | Tifi: I can understand the UNIT_HEALTH throttle, the server only computes health values every 0.3 sec |
| 23:24.43 | Arrowmaster | why do you think you can take a hit that would kill you but get healed at exactly the same time and live |
| 23:25.04 | cncfanatics | what I don't understand is why the client can't compute it every CLEU event |
| 23:25.34 | cncfanatics | (without us making it do that that is) |
| 23:25.51 | Xinhuan | maybe the client may end up with inconsistent hp values if it tries to do that |
| 23:26.14 | cncfanatics | the lib ends up with consistent hp values, so can the client :p |
| 23:26.24 | Tifi | i don't think blizz has a problem with inconsistent values |
| 23:26.46 | Tifi | they are inconsistent on live |
| 23:27.01 | Tifi | you can take a 6k hit according to the combat log |
| 23:27.18 | Fisker- | i r nr dth |
| 23:27.23 | Arrowmaster | i still dont see the point of ignoring the health value on UNIT_HEALTH, to me being sure that the data is more accurate most of the time is more important than it being slightly faster and accurate a smaller amount of time |
| 23:27.31 | Tifi | then UNIT_HEALTH might fire like 100ms afterwards and UnitHealth tells you that you're at 100% |
| 23:27.48 | cncfanatics | we don't ignore it |
| 23:27.54 | cncfanatics | we add more updates inbetween |
| 23:28.03 | Arrowmaster | isnt 2.0 doing that though? |
| 23:28.17 | Arrowmaster | since it breaks with large amounts of health regen that arent in the combatlog |
| 23:28.26 | cncfanatics | 2.0 still uses UNIT_HEALTH |
| 23:28.41 | cncfanatics | it just ain't as silly as 1.0 is in believing its always correct :p |
| 23:28.54 | cncfanatics | UnitHealth can be incorrect even when UNIT_HEALTH just triggered |
| 23:29.14 | Tifi | it doesn't break |
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| 23:29.27 | Tifi | it uses blizz's values if the health regen is too big |
| 23:29.35 | Tifi | that's not really breaking |
| 23:30.24 | Tifi | and normally you don't have >50 HP5 in combat |
| 23:32.53 | Xinhuan | i think that Incomingheals lib helps more than instanthealth |
| 23:33.16 | cncfanatics | ofc it does |
| 23:33.16 | Xinhuan | its usually healing coordination that wins, not the fact that you can heal that 0.1 sec faster |
| 23:33.35 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan: you can combine both though |
| 23:34.34 | Xinhuan | the inconsistencies are from combat log events that arrive out of order |
| 23:34.58 | Tifi | and both are not only useful for healers, but also tanks |
| 23:35.16 | Fisker- | Xinhuan my enemy |
| 23:35.18 | Xinhuan | for eg, a reflected spell in the combat log, before the spellreflect cast |
| 23:35.20 | Fisker- | MORTAL enemy |
| 23:35.26 | Xinhuan | (this causes omen to ignore it) |
| 23:35.36 | Tifi | lol |
| 23:36.03 | cncfanatics | they don't actualy arrive out of order I thinl |
| 23:36.10 | cncfanatics | its the server allowing some "leeway" on when the player activates it |
| 23:36.14 | Tifi | they do cnc |
| 23:36.34 | Xinhuan | in any case, there are examples of out-of-order in the combat log |
| 23:36.38 | cncfanatics | oh wait, I misread the example |
| 23:36.38 | Xinhuan | they dont' always repotr in the order |
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| 23:36.43 | Xinhuan | that htey happen |
| 23:36.47 | Tifi | sometimes its damage, heal in the combat log, but overheal, dmg on the server |
| 23:37.30 | Xinhuan | another example, is when your combat log clearly states you counterspelled the enemy (interrupted something), but the enemy spell went off anyway |
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| 23:37.47 | Tifi | or dmg1, dmg2 in the combat log, then a UNIT_HEALTH that only counts dmg2 in, and the next UH counts dmg1 in |
| 23:38.05 | Tifi | rare, but it happens |
| 23:38.17 | NivFreak | I like the abilities of mine that fire after the death event |
| 23:38.18 | cncfanatics | which leaves me wondering exactly how blizz coded their server :p |
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| 23:38.38 | Xinhuan | even if such cases are "rare", as in 1 in 1000, it occurs frequently enough to notice them |
| 23:38.38 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: that can also be caused by counterspelling it really late similair to the change the made to make /stopcasting macros not needed |
| 23:38.39 | NivFreak | crush->die->shield block is a personal favorite that happens once in a long while |
| 23:39.11 | cncfanatics | NivFreak: haha yea |
| 23:39.20 | Xinhuan | i dunno about that Arrowmaster, but if the combat log reads "You interrupt XYZ's blah", and his XYZ casted |
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| 23:39.25 | Xinhuan | then i didn't actually interrupt anything |
| 23:39.34 | Xinhuan | and therefore its wrong |
| 23:39.43 | Xinhuan | its almost as if the interrupt combat log event is client generated |
| 23:39.49 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know |
| 23:39.54 | NivFreak | I see that frequently |
| 23:40.01 | NivFreak | more when my lag is up |
| 23:40.09 | NivFreak | MSBT will even pop an interrupted message |
| 23:40.26 | NivFreak | and I'm pretty sure it happened on RoS last night |
| 23:40.35 | NivFreak | a rogue missed his kick, but his combat log showed an interrupt |
| 23:41.10 | Tifi | on ros thats even more fun |
| 23:41.14 | cncfanatics | I just say "blame blizz" in those cases rly |
| 23:41.18 | cncfanatics | thats the only valid answer there is :p |
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| 23:41.22 | NivFreak | Tifi: it's "exciting" |
| 23:41.31 | Tifi | ^^ |
| 23:41.31 | cncfanatics | NivFreak: it wiped you ? :p |
| 23:41.35 | NivFreak | cncfanatics: no |
| 23:41.41 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure if faster reactions is worth these "rare" occasions where the combat log has wrong information |
| 23:41.46 | NivFreak | but I did lose a lock for it |
| 23:42.00 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: I'm a fan |
| 23:43.51 | Xinhuan | i wonder if Diablo3 will allow UI modifications |
| 23:44.03 | Nosrac1 | I bet it will |
| 23:44.25 | NeoTron | in visual basic |
| 23:44.35 | NivFreak | logo |
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| 23:44.42 | Arrowmaster | actionscript |
| 23:44.46 | Arrowmaster | oh wait |
| 23:44.58 | Arrowmaster | sorry thats all the future MMOs bound for failure |
| 23:45.00 | NeoTron | activex |
| 23:45.22 | Primer | Anyone know of an addon or a document or something that has all possible output for GetRealZoneText() ? I'd like to have a table with this info, without having to actually visit every possible place in the game :) |
| 23:45.50 | Xinhuan | nope primer |
| 23:45.57 | Arrowmaster | babble-zone..... |
| 23:46.05 | Arrowmaster | although it has more |
| 23:46.31 | Xinhuan | that list will contain every possible zone from iterating the list of continents/zone + every instance |
| 23:46.47 | Arrowmaster | you could get it from the dbc files |
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| 23:47.54 | Tifi | NivFreak, on ros did you notice that the deaden timer is wrong after a missed kick? |
| 23:48.04 | Blu3ness | I am very interested in creating an arena tracker which tracks enemy comp, arena points, win/lose information and integrating it into a django website, does anyone want to help me get started? |
| 23:48.06 | NivFreak | Tifi: I didn't notice that |
| 23:48.17 | NivFreak | it's a guide |
| 23:48.23 | NivFreak | or at least, I've always assumed so |
| 23:48.24 | Xinhuan | i think there's already such addons/sites |
| 23:48.33 | cncfanatics | any game using actionscript deserves to have fuck all |
| 23:48.41 | cncfanatics | seriously, who got that fucking fail idea in the first place ? |
| 23:48.42 | Blu3ness | Xinhuan: do you want to provide more information? |
| 23:48.43 | NivFreak | in general, a deaden seems to always been the only spell that is cast instantly after an interrupt |
| 23:48.48 | Xinhuan | no |
| 23:48.50 | NivFreak | so it's easy to catch/reflect |
| 23:48.55 | Blu3ness | Xinhuan: i tried to search for it, didn't find any |
| 23:49.04 | Xinhuan | there's one, i can't remember what site it is now |
| 23:49.15 | Xinhuan | generally speaking ppl prefer to have privacy than to reveal every detail of every fight uve been in |
| 23:49.41 | Primer | I never stopped to consider localization |
| 23:49.42 | Tifi | NivFreak, i think deaden is a different spell school than shield and the other spell |
| 23:49.47 | Blu3ness | it's going to be a team only with restricted access, it's more for statistical tracking and analysis rather than to have information made public |
| 23:49.58 | Blu3ness | the code is going to be open-source tho. |
| 23:50.00 | Primer | It's odd that there's no numeric table for these zones |
| 23:50.04 | NivFreak | Tifi: it's certainly different that spirit shock |
| 23:50.10 | Tifi | yes |
| 23:50.14 | NivFreak | deaden is shadow |
| 23:50.15 | Xinhuan | my guild doesn't use rogues to kick spirit shock |
| 23:50.17 | Arrowmaster | Primer: because they arent numberic data |
| 23:50.21 | Xinhuan | we use 3 mages to counterspell |
| 23:50.25 | NivFreak | spirit shock is arcane |
| 23:50.30 | Xinhuan | with 8 sec school lockout |
| 23:50.34 | Xinhuan | per CS |
| 23:50.50 | Xinhuan | CS isn't on GCD either |
| 23:50.54 | Primer | Arrowmaster: still, it'd be so much easier if it was. GetRealZoneText() returns localized text |
| 23:50.57 | Xinhuan | but does have 1% chance to resist |
| 23:51.04 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: I don't trust my mages that much |
| 23:51.09 | NivFreak | and resist == fail |
| 23:51.14 | Primer | I doubt anyone would have much use for this addon I'm making anyhow |
| 23:51.22 | Primer | I want it for myself |
| 23:51.23 | NivFreak | Our phase 2/3 are still fairly tight |
| 23:51.27 | NivFreak | so losing dps is scetchyt |
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| 23:51.56 | Xinhuan | last ros i did, in phase 1, by the time te first enrage ended, it was on 35% health ;p |
| 23:52.02 | Tifi | so you're using mages because of the gcd? |
| 23:52.15 | Xinhuan | no we used mages because our rogues can't kick ;p |
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| 23:52.25 | Tifi | lol ok |
| 23:52.34 | Xinhuan | that, and that we have more mages than rogues anyway |
| 23:53.10 | Xinhuan | there's a 2nd technical reason really |
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| 23:53.18 | Xinhuan | with mage CS, the boss casts about 1 spirit shock every 9 secs or so |
| 23:53.26 | Xinhuan | with rogue kick, it casts 1 every 6 secs or so |
| 23:53.35 | Xinhuan | due to school lockout |
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| 23:53.43 | Tifi | true |
| 23:53.57 | Xinhuan | so if you take that into account, u have less spirit shocks to CS, than to kick |
| 23:54.08 | Xinhuan | and so you have higher DPS |
| 23:54.52 | NivFreak | we tried to use earthshocks in our rotation the first time we did RoS |
| 23:55.02 | NivFreak | it took me a bit to figure out why we were failing :P |
| 23:55.07 | Xinhuan | 3 sec lockout on that one is fail ;p |
| 23:55.09 | Tifi | but you need 3 mages instead of 2 rogues, that's 50% more sources for error ^^ |
| 23:55.21 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 23:55.36 | NivFreak | I'd rather have my mages spamming spell steal anyway |
| 23:55.42 | NivFreak | they tend to top meters on that fight |
| 23:55.48 | Xinhuan | its far better to devour that one |
| 23:55.54 | NivFreak | lol |
| 23:55.55 | NivFreak | no way |
| 23:56.13 | NivFreak | they take no return damage after the spell steal |
| 23:56.22 | NivFreak | it lightens the healing load, and WAY increases dps |
| 23:56.37 | Xinhuan | healing load is not very relevant, given that healing is x2 |
| 23:56.39 | Tifi | it might be safer, but shield on mage+deaden=nice |
| 23:56.39 | Xinhuan | in p2 |
| 23:57.00 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: 13k crit with deaden up == ouch |
| 23:57.06 | Xinhuan | ros is doable with just 5 healers |
| 23:57.08 | Fisker- | btw Xinhuan |
| 23:57.10 | Xinhuan | usually bring 6 |
| 23:57.14 | Fisker- | before i die i have to tell you this |
| 23:57.16 | Fisker- | i hate you |
| 23:57.19 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 23:57.26 | Xinhuan | stabs Fisker- with a pillow |
| 23:57.48 | Xinhuan | alttabs to his "33 minute RH Rush" |
| 23:57.52 | thul | sleeps |
| 23:58.03 | Xinhuan | 132-276 reinforcements, this will take 9 more minutes to lose |
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| 23:58.12 | Tifi | do you switch ppl in and out for bosses? BB with 5 healers? |
| 23:58.37 | Xinhuan | depends on which day it is |
| 23:58.43 | Xinhuan | sometimes only do up to BB on day 1 |
| 23:58.49 | Xinhuan | and remainder on day 2 |
| 23:58.54 | cncfanatics | damn, what is the name of the script file that gets executed automaticly when linux starts up again ? |
| 23:58.57 | cncfanatics | I'm fail and forgot >.> |
| 23:59.25 | CIA-51 | 03tifi * r81554 10LibQuickHealth-2.0/LibQuickHealth-2.0.lua: LibQuickHealth-2.0: typo |
| 23:59.32 | Xinhuan | its usually the case of "lets clear up to felmyst, damn not enough healers online for twins, lets go BT" |
| 23:59.34 | Xinhuan | kinda dumb |
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