| 00:00.48 | Ackis | what was OneCompanion looking different than the others? |
| 00:00.55 | Ackis | s/what/why/ |
| 00:01.27 | kokolores | hm, i have figured out the problem. as soon as i install sharedmedia so i can use other textures than blizzard in omen my castbars in quartz will turn very dark...do i leave sharedmedia away so i have normal castbars with quartz i only have 'blizzard' textures for my omen bars, lose/lose situation, what to do? |
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| 00:07.13 | ckknight | new poll: http://www.curseforge.com/polls/favorite-fictional-creature/ |
| 00:07.32 | ckknight | I'd link the beta.wowace one, but you can't log in there yet |
| 00:09.14 | sacarasc | ckknight: i don't like the lack of choices... the judderman isn't even there |
| 00:09.52 | ckknight | judderman? |
| 00:10.35 | Mera | because its on wowinterface svn ackis |
| 00:12.27 | sacarasc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TUOPeNJCK8 <-- judderman |
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| 00:15.39 | Mera | http://www.acapela-group.com/Greetings/pigg-1-ba3b472a6420d |
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| 00:25.42 | Dashkal | what's a reasonable raid dps in t6? |
| 00:25.54 | Dashkal | and likewise a reasonable personal dps in that same tier? |
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| 00:27.38 | Dashkal | just looking for ballpark averages so I can do a lil minor theorycrafting on blood aura's 2% return |
| 00:31.37 | sacarasc | dunno about t6, but i've hit 1400dps in T5/badge gear |
| 00:32.37 | Dashkal | lua> 1400 * (25 - 4 - 6) * (0.02) |
| 00:32.37 | lua_bot | Dashkal: 420 |
| 00:33.27 | Dashkal | 420 HPS for the blood DK who's busy DPSing at a cost of 2 talent points... |
| 00:33.37 | Dashkal | promptly drops the talent |
| 00:34.20 | Mera | wowwebstats.com |
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| 00:34.58 | Dashkal | Mera: Yeah, I knew about that one, but it was overkill for the quick bit of math I wanted to do. Numbers aren't even close to balanced yet so this really is futile at this stage |
| 00:35.11 | Mera | ha oksry |
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| 00:35.37 | Dashkal | I'm just doing the hypothetical "How well would blood aura heal in a current raid environment" |
| 00:35.45 | Dashkal | which of course is totally irelevant |
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| 00:39.22 | NeoTron | it's pretty crap |
| 00:39.30 | steev | kicks the new curse client |
| 00:39.38 | steev | 19:15 <@robbat2> in a related thing, do you have a moment for another HAL issue? |
| 00:39.41 | steev | 19:15 <+ferringb> bleh. pci aer can bite my ass. |
| 00:39.42 | steev | eep |
| 00:39.43 | steev | sorry |
| 00:39.46 | steev | 19:15 <@robbat2> it's not using my info.ignore settings for some devices |
| 00:40.00 | NeoTron | it heals based on the DPS of the players affected, not the deathknight too |
| 00:40.42 | steev | the new curse client cuts off the damn summaries |
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| 00:43.18 | thul | i actually love mutilate |
| 00:43.44 | steev | that makes one of us |
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| 00:46.48 | Dashkal | wtb working riding crop in the beta. at least revert and let the thing work as a trinket until they decide on how to go |
| 00:47.03 | Dashkal | then I could give up my previous on a pale horse for leveling |
| 00:47.07 | Dashkal | precious* |
| 00:47.12 | thul | steev: that is ok |
| 00:51.25 | kokolores | is the beta full of ppl trying out dps stuff EJ style? |
| 01:01.51 | Pkekyo| | g'morning ladies |
| 01:01.56 | Pkekyo| | ~whalecrit thul |
| 01:01.57 | purl | ACTION crits thul with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. thul dies |
| 01:01.57 | Pkekyo| | hai thul |
| 01:02.37 | Aiiane | o.o hello Pkekyo| :) |
| 01:03.24 | Pkekyo| | hai Aiiane |
| 01:03.29 | Pkekyo| | so whatup tonight peoples? |
| 01:04.06 | Pkekyo| | has run out of things to pack and resorts to random IRCage for entertainment |
| 01:04.19 | steev | doing some fail eots as alliance |
| 01:04.23 | sacarasc | Internet Relay Cage! |
| 01:05.00 | Pkekyo| | sacarasc: infrared cage would be the more obvious choise if you're going to be an arsehat about it... |
| 01:05.18 | sacarasc | pfft |
| 01:06.42 | CIA-25 | OneCompanion: 03Mera-92869 * r22 10/trunk/ (. opts/options.lua): |
| 01:06.42 | CIA-25 | OneCompanion: wowui svn: |
| 01:06.42 | CIA-25 | OneCompanion: -too much good weed here |
| 01:10.08 | thul | Pkekyo|: haihai! |
| 01:10.11 | thul | I like mutilate :-P |
| 01:10.31 | Pkekyo| | you're a fagball |
| 01:10.51 | thul | :-D |
| 01:10.58 | thul | but seriously, it is fun |
| 01:11.33 | Pkekyo| | fagball |
| 01:12.18 | thul | Pkekyo|: i want that: http://tinyurl.com/574c7r |
| 01:12.38 | NeoTron | Dashkal: lol-unholy-20%-mounted-bonus |
| 01:13.01 | Pkekyo| | I have this: http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4702/9031846tu3.jpg , so screw you :p |
| 01:13.56 | Pkekyo| | meh, I want new optics too :< |
| 01:14.14 | Pkekyo| | $8k kinda sucks though |
| 01:18.48 | thul | i got lots of new optics |
| 01:18.51 | thul | so I'm happy |
| 01:21.23 | Pkekyo| | I only have two :( |
| 01:21.37 | thul | i have like 20 now :-P |
| 01:22.08 | Pkekyo| | screw you, seriously |
| 01:22.11 | thul | :-D |
| 01:23.12 | Pkekyo| | hard |
| 01:23.12 | Pkekyo| | anally |
| 01:23.12 | Pkekyo| | from the rear |
| 01:23.24 | thul | the f/1.2 is great, especially |
| 01:23.30 | Pkekyo| | shush |
| 01:23.31 | Pkekyo| | arsehat |
| 01:24.51 | thul | :-D |
| 01:26.34 | thul | http://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/362106236_MQdHJ-L.jpg <- Pkekyo| nice bokeh eh? ;-) |
| 01:26.49 | Pkekyo| | die |
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| 01:31.16 | thul | http://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/357643712_XCgik-L.jpg <- moar fun bokebn |
| 01:31.51 | Pkekyo| | kjefteeeeeeeeeeeeeen |
| 01:31.52 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 01:32.16 | thul | haha |
| 01:32.19 | thul | I'll go to bed now :-P |
| 01:32.26 | Pkekyo| | you do that |
| 01:32.27 | Pkekyo| | arsehat |
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| 01:45.32 | Dashkal | NeoTron: damn rights I have unholy just for that talent :p Seriously though, it's very useful when questing |
| 01:45.41 | Dashkal | I'll probably drop it at 77 when I can fly |
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| 02:09.58 | chexsum | anyone remember who the person was that accidentally gave their beta key away last week ? |
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| 02:25.24 | Gnarfoz | chexsum: Polarina |
| 02:25.39 | Gnarfoz | http://www.2and2.net/files/48aae1e6a39de.png ^^ |
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| 02:31.55 | Jygga | kewl worked |
| 02:32.00 | Jygga | thanks ^^ |
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| 02:34.17 | fewyn | i hate working conventions |
| 02:36.13 | sylvanaar | hey can someone tell me how to generate a maxed out profession link? |
| 02:36.27 | sylvanaar | Xinhuan i think i saw you do it once |
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| 02:41.16 | Globalduck1313 | quick question.....is prat 3.0 only for WotLK? |
| 02:41.22 | sylvanaar | no |
| 02:41.27 | sylvanaar | either or |
| 02:41.34 | Globalduck1313 | k gonna test now then |
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| 02:44.10 | Globalduck1313 | i understand putting the highcpufolder alongside prat in addons.....delete it from the pullouts after I put it alongside prat in addons folder or leave it? |
| 02:44.42 | sylvanaar | doesnt matter |
| 02:44.47 | Globalduck1313 | kk |
| 02:45.55 | sylvanaar | also you can update prat without updating that folder |
| 02:46.14 | sylvanaar | it has nothing in it really |
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| 02:58.41 | orionshock | wrt MessageEventFilter system they put in recently, did they say if they where going to pass the other event args to the func in 3.0? |
| 02:59.29 | sylvanaar | ooo |
| 02:59.59 | sylvanaar | i doubt it |
| 03:00.06 | orionshock | suck... |
| 03:00.12 | orionshock | i hope they do |
| 03:00.20 | sylvanaar | its meant to filter the body of the message, ie. arg1 |
| 03:00.40 | orionshock | come on, per chl settings :D |
| 03:00.51 | orionshock | custom ignore filter |
| 03:01.28 | sylvanaar | im just saying what it was intended to do, there are ways to use it for other things |
| 03:01.56 | sylvanaar | and actually, it was for the combat log i believe |
| 03:02.36 | sylvanaar | not 100% sure about that |
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| 03:03.17 | sylvanaar | heh |
| 03:05.08 | sylvanaar | i actually hope they dont, because filters with side effects can break when prat runs them |
| 03:05.59 | Primer | I wonder who manages DBM |
| 03:06.22 | Primer | because the addon's been updated on deadlybossmods.com for ages now, but on curse and wowinterface, it's still the old version |
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| 03:08.49 | sylvanaar | looks like someone is doing something like avion - lorhin, wonder what their irc nick is |
| 03:09.43 | sylvanaar | Carancu or Neya |
| 03:09.51 | sylvanaar | or something else even |
| 03:11.09 | Obelixprime | this may sound like a dumb question, but is there a way to show a total dmg done by a target via swstats? |
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| 03:16.59 | CIA-25 | 03ackis * r81331 10Querier/ (Querier.lua Querier.toc): |
| 03:16.59 | CIA-25 | Querier: |
| 03:17.00 | CIA-25 | - Removed long version of command line parameters |
| 03:17.00 | CIA-25 | - Made interface more user friendly |
| 03:17.00 | CIA-25 | - Added a reset item lock option |
| 03:17.00 | CIA-25 | - Changed lockout time to be 5 minutes instead of 10 |
| 03:17.02 | CIA-25 | - Added /querier as an option which will bring interface panel up |
| 03:17.11 | Globalduck1313 | hey sylvanaar...looks like some issues with minichat and 3.0.....flickering which i think is caused by minichat always trying to minimize the chatframe even if auto minimize is off........ |
| 03:17.50 | Globalduck1313 | also guild chat is ghosting and staying over every other channel |
| 03:17.55 | sylvanaar | oh yeah, prat3 experimental module - absolutely |
| 03:18.10 | Globalduck1313 | kk ill disable and see |
| 03:18.31 | Globalduck1313 | other than that i love this version very much easier to configure |
| 03:20.08 | sylvanaar | im glad - orionshock helped me organize the config screens a little better |
| 03:21.02 | Globalduck1313 | its very clear.....love the tooltip explanations fo verything |
| 03:21.37 | Globalduck1313 | disable experimantal and now i got spaces between chat lines and still ghosting |
| 03:22.27 | Globalduck1313 | lol nvm did a reload and its gone (spaces between chat lines) |
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| 03:32.15 | Ackis | hhaha gf is making me a cake so I sang the cake song |
| 03:32.28 | CIA-25 | 03ackis * r81332 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 03:32.28 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 03:32.28 | CIA-25 | - What was once broke is now unbroke. |
| 03:32.28 | CIA-25 | ~botsnack |
| 03:32.28 | purl | CIA-25: thanks |
| 03:32.35 | Ackis | old commit note is old |
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| 03:40.15 | orionshock | sylvanaar: :D |
| 03:40.57 | orionshock | & i figured out how to my my own display alot nicer for SickOfClickingDailies, one group and several headers |
| 03:41.00 | CIA-25 | 03sylvanaar * r81333 10Prat-3.0/modules/PlayerNames.lua: |
| 03:41.00 | CIA-25 | Prat-3.0 (Alpha): |
| 03:41.00 | CIA-25 | Reenable the playername tabcomplete. This has been known to lock up the game |
| 03:41.00 | CIA-25 | - though I can't reproduce it now. |
| 03:41.37 | sylvanaar | how did you fix it? |
| 03:42.25 | sylvanaar | ah, i can reproduce it |
| 03:42.45 | sylvanaar | i think its a bug in AceTab-3.0, if you pass "" as the second parameter |
| 03:42.56 | sylvanaar | passing nil now, and its ok |
| 03:43.04 | CIA-25 | 03ackis 07NewDB * r81334 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 03:43.04 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: Duplicate fix from live, make a debug print out function for |
| 03:43.04 | CIA-25 | testing. Zhinjio, the end result of this is you're going to get a fully |
| 03:43.04 | CIA-25 | populated database array, you can start nuking the frame stuff to get rid of the |
| 03:43.05 | CIA-25 | old one |
| 03:43.48 | CIA-25 | 03brimm * r81335 10MyThreat/ (MyThreat.lua MyThreat.toc MyThreat.xml): |
| 03:43.48 | CIA-25 | MyThreat: |
| 03:43.48 | CIA-25 | -Added a new "tank mode" that can be enabled via the options. |
| 03:43.48 | CIA-25 | -Added a new "focus mode" that can be set and cleared via a slash command. |
| 03:45.04 | orionshock | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/SickOfClickingDailies/WotLK/BC.lua |
| 03:45.13 | orionshock | sylvanaar: ^^ |
| 03:45.42 | orionshock | for SSO there are A LOT of quests, so i decided to put them all into 1 group, with headers |
| 03:47.00 | sylvanaar | looks pretty clean |
| 03:49.36 | sylvanaar | meh, i dont want to deal with jira - can i just let someone know about the acetab problem? is its maintainer around? |
| 03:56.38 | sylvanaar | ok, i doubt i can commit the fix to ace3 nevcairiel are you around? |
| 03:58.48 | CIA-25 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK * r81336 10Ace3/AceTab-3.0/AceTab-3.0.lua: Ace3 - Fix lockup when "" is passed as the prematches value. This prevents the client from locking up. |
| 03:58.54 | sylvanaar | maybe i can |
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| 04:18.40 | CIA-25 | rawr: 03Tekkub 07master * r17c4517 10/ Rawr.lua : Add deDE locale from EnSabahNur @ WoWI - http://is.gd/2ciC |
| 04:18.43 | CIA-25 | rawr: 03Tekkub 07master * ra7f9642 10/ Rawr.lua : Change to use a hook... can't say I like it, but it avoids the need to localize the detection string - http://is.gd/2ciD |
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| 04:34.52 | Shirik|zZz | I love that addon, btw Tekkub |
| 04:34.54 | Shirik|zZz | just saying |
| 04:35.17 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 04:35.25 | Tekkub | the draenei one is...bad |
| 04:35.33 | Tekkub | I'm afraid to try the belf one |
| 04:35.51 | Shirik|zZz | I thought they didn't exist |
| 04:36.18 | mykx | Hey if I'm on a regular dsl line and I buy an ADSL2+ router, will it work ok ? |
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| 04:36.49 | Shirik|zZz | wtf does a router have to do with ADSL2+ |
| 04:36.56 | Shirik|zZz | where did you read this? |
| 04:37.06 | mykx | the router said on it ADSL2+ modem |
| 04:37.16 | mykx | so i'm wondering if it will work with an ADSL(1?) line |
| 04:37.18 | digmouse | g'morning guys |
| 04:37.20 | Shirik|zZz | oh so it has both |
| 04:37.25 | mykx | yeah it's both in one |
| 04:37.34 | Tekkub | someone dug some up, they're in a different path than the other rawrs |
| 04:37.47 | Shirik|zZz | mykx: Netgear? |
| 04:37.50 | mykx | Linksys WAG200G |
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| 04:38.05 | mykx | I searched on google but couldn't find a definitive answer |
| 04:38.15 | mykx | don't really want to waste money on something that wont work, ya know :P |
| 04:39.15 | Primer | So how does a developer of addons receive a beta key? |
| 04:40.18 | Shirik|zZz | IEEE 802.3 is ethernet, right? |
| 04:40.24 | Shirik|zZz | Gah, I can't believe I'm forgetting my numbers |
| 04:40.27 | Shirik|zZz | !g IEEE 802.3 |
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| 04:40.35 | Shirik|zZz | ok [Liquidor]'s bot fails |
| 04:40.57 | Tekkub | yes it is |
| 04:40.59 | mykx | the router has ethernet and wireless 'g' on it |
| 04:41.14 | Tekkub | wireless is 802.11 :P |
| 04:41.27 | Shirik|zZz | Yes, mykx |
| 04:41.28 | Shirik|zZz | ITU G.992.1 (G.dmt), ITU G.992.2 (G.lite), ITU G.992.3, ITU G.992.5, |
| 04:41.28 | Shirik|zZz | T1.413i2, U-R2 for Annex B |
| 04:41.33 | Shirik|zZz | Those are all the supported standards |
| 04:41.48 | Shirik|zZz | G.992 is DSL |
| 04:41.55 | mykx | reads as gibberish to me, so it will be ok with DSL(1?) :) |
| 04:42.01 | Shirik|zZz | G.992.5 is ADSL+ |
| 04:42.04 | Shirik|zZz | ADSL2+* |
| 04:42.11 | Shirik|zZz | The others are the earlier standards (including yours) |
| 04:42.24 | mykx | ty mate appreciate it |
| 04:42.34 | mykx | recently switched ISP and the free router they provided is absolutely terrible |
| 04:42.53 | Primer | Anyone? Where does an addon developer go to get a beta key? |
| 04:43.15 | Shirik|zZz | ok night time now |
| 04:43.17 | Shirik|zZz | good luck |
| 04:47.47 | Primer | Soooo |
| 04:47.57 | Primer | I guess the keys were available via wowinterface.com? |
| 04:48.02 | Primer | And one needed to sign up? |
| 04:48.32 | Primer | Did I miss the boat? I mean, I've had a key longer than many developers, since I have friends in low places. I'd just to get my hands on another :) |
| 04:49.15 | abug | I think all of the big three had beta key giveaways of sorts |
| 04:49.26 | Primer | No, I'm a _developer_! |
| 04:49.30 | Primer | I want my key! |
| 04:49.36 | abug | to developers... |
| 04:53.45 | Primer | So no one here has any info? I've been searching, and I can only find vague references |
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| 05:07.45 | CIA-25 | 03ananhaid * r81337 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Felmyst.lua: |
| 05:07.45 | CIA-25 | BigWigs: |
| 05:07.45 | CIA-25 | - Felmyst zhCN/zhTW update. |
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| 05:15.54 | digmouse | I built a web camera in Spore... |
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| 05:24.00 | abug | @Primer: http://www.wowinterface.com/beta.php |
| 05:24.45 | abug | @Primer: http://news.curse.com/details/12015/ |
| 05:26.05 | abug | @Primer: http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=wotlkbeta |
| 05:26.07 | abug | you're welcome |
| 05:32.24 | eliteevil | !arena 1706 |
| 05:32.31 | eliteevil | hrm.. |
| 05:32.38 | eliteevil | I thought that was the trigger? |
| 05:32.39 | eliteevil | >.> |
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| 05:35.46 | Groktar | lol, i haven't done any c/c++ in two years, and i have an assignment due tomorrow |
| 05:35.49 | Groktar | this is going to go well |
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| 06:13.04 | orionshock | is it my addon or does the chat filter system blizzard put in fire ~5 to many times? |
| 06:15.37 | orionshock | or does CF:AddMessage from with in a filter natualy cause recursion? |
| 06:20.54 | digmouse | NeoTron: ping |
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| 06:39.11 | orionshock | i present my hackery to find out what is wrong.. or if it's just a glitch with so many addons hooking CF_OnEvent |
| 06:39.13 | orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/95394 |
| 06:39.36 | orionshock | problem is that the notification fires ~6 times... any way to get it to stop doing that? |
| 06:42.07 | CIA-25 | 03LordFarlander * r81338 10LibLordFarlander-2.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:42.07 | CIA-25 | LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 06:42.07 | CIA-25 | - Some fixes for the Snowball reagented pets for WotLK since they are now learnable |
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| 06:48.34 | CIA-25 | 03nevcairiel * r81339 10Bartender4/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:48.34 | CIA-25 | Bartender4: merged changes from GitHub |
| 06:48.34 | CIA-25 | - Added LDB launcher plugin |
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| 06:52.31 | CIA-25 | 03nevcairiel 07WotlK * r81340 10Bartender4/ (21 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:52.31 | CIA-25 | Bartender4: MBartender4: merged changes from GitHub: |
| 06:52.31 | CIA-25 | - Added LDB launcher plugin |
| 06:52.31 | CIA-25 | - General cleanup |
| 06:58.25 | Groktar | so i like the way that when i code see |
| 06:58.36 | Groktar | er, c |
| 06:58.46 | Groktar | my program starts out looking hugely complicated and ugly |
| 06:59.05 | Groktar | and eventually it gets cut down to like 8 lines of code and i end up feeling like a moron for not seeing it before |
| 06:59.06 | Groktar | >< |
| 07:01.41 | CIA-25 | 03dodge * r81341 10/branches/CoolDownButtons/ (2.1/ no branch available.txt): |
| 07:01.41 | CIA-25 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 07:01.41 | CIA-25 | - |
| 07:02.02 | [SW]Dodge | damn! -.- after 3 error i forgot to set commitlog -.-' |
| 07:02.50 | [SW]Dodge | CIA-25: CooldownButtons: removed old/outdated branch |
| 07:02.50 | [SW]Dodge | :D |
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| 07:22.06 | Groktar | invalid preprocessor command 'DEFINE' |
| 07:22.09 | Groktar | uh |
| 07:22.13 | Groktar | i dun get it |
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| 07:24.36 | Groktar | lol caps |
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| 07:30.01 | Arrowmaster | orionshock: the filter system is ment to be processed multiple times per event, it takes extra hackery to get around that (the hackery mostly involves caching every arg# and comparing if the input from the last call is the same as the current) |
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| 07:40.10 | orionshock | ah thank you Arrowmaster |
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| 07:49.06 | Adirelle|work | nevcairiel: do you plan to add some kind of sticky frame to bt4 ? |
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| 08:04.56 | CIA-25 | 03Shamahan * r81342 10SimpleBar/Textures.lua: |
| 08:04.56 | CIA-25 | SimpleBar: |
| 08:04.56 | CIA-25 | - Some castbar and actionbar tweaks |
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| 08:26.06 | Adirelle|work | I have a doubt, could anyone confirm this : http://ace.pastey.net/95396 ? |
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| 08:29.28 | Adirelle|work | nvm, checked it myself... |
| 08:31.27 | CIA-25 | 03adirelle * r81343 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: fixed flawed .super implementation. |
| 08:32.05 | Arrowmaster | Adirelle|work: that self.super.Print doesnt exist? |
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| 08:33.01 | Adirelle|work | Arrowmaster: d'oh, I renamed Print to Dump, but not everywhere, anyway, the issue remains |
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| 08:33.49 | Adirelle|work | I fixed the pastey |
| 08:34.10 | Arrowmaster | oh i think i see the problem |
| 08:34.20 | Adirelle|work | the problem is that obj.Dump is derivedProtoB.Dump that will call self.super.Dump |
| 08:34.24 | Arrowmaster | obj.super doesnt exist |
| 08:34.45 | Adirelle|work | self.super = obj.super = derivedProtoA |
| 08:35.10 | Adirelle|work | e.g. self.super.Dump is derivedProtoA |
| 08:35.19 | Adirelle|work | derivedProtoA.Dump* |
| 08:35.46 | Adirelle|work | so in derivedProtoA.Dump, self.super.Dump is called again, but this *is* derivedProtoA.Dump |
| 08:36.11 | Adirelle|work | hence an infinite recursive loop |
| 08:36.35 | Arrowmaster | wait |
| 08:37.03 | Arrowmaster | ok yeah i clearly see the problem |
| 08:37.49 | Adirelle|work | super isn't related to the prototype that defines the method, but to the prototype of the object |
| 08:38.03 | Adirelle|work | and well, I think it shouldn't be called prototype |
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| 08:38.56 | Adirelle|work | the solution is simply to drop the .super attribute and uses a local |
| 08:39.24 | Arrowmaster | the problem is that your passing self to the Dump() command |
| 08:39.27 | orionshock | is there a new +mount speed enchant yet? |
| 08:39.30 | orionshock | or just the crop still? |
| 08:39.47 | Arrowmaster | so in every function call self = obj, it never changes |
| 08:39.53 | Arrowmaster | thus the loop |
| 08:40.24 | Arrowmaster | now if you changed it to self.super.Dump(self.super) it would work i think but might change your expected behavior |
| 08:41.13 | Adirelle|work | yeas |
| 08:42.10 | Adirelle|work | there is to way to fix it : either call derivedProtoA.super.Dump(self) or set up a local named derivedProtoA_super and use it, e.g. derivedProtoA_super.Dump(self) |
| 08:42.18 | Adirelle|work | s/to way/two ways/ |
| 08:43.54 | Arrowmaster | so you set obj.super? |
| 08:44.13 | Arrowmaster | im guessing you do since otherwise that code doesnt work |
| 08:46.19 | Adirelle|work | no, no, I just fix the prototype so to not rely on obj.super |
| 08:46.43 | Arrowmaster | umm |
| 08:46.49 | Adirelle|work | in OO language, .super should always reference the super class of the class for which you define the method |
| 08:47.10 | Adirelle|work | it's a kind of syntaxic sugar |
| 08:47.19 | Arrowmaster | but if ojb.super doesnt exist in that example then you would never have a loop since the first function call would error |
| 08:47.26 | winkiller | trooper.super |
| 08:48.53 | Adirelle|work | obj.super is retrieved through the "instance" metatable |
| 08:49.14 | Adirelle|work | and even if I set obj.super, it wouldn't fix the issue |
| 08:49.39 | Adirelle|work | since obj.super would still be derivedProtoA |
| 08:49.53 | Adirelle|work | here are two valid fixes : http://ace.pastey.net/95397 |
| 08:50.27 | Arrowmaster | er yeah |
| 08:51.00 | Adirelle|work | and this is a third : http://ace.pastey.net/95398 |
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| 08:53.25 | CIA-25 | 03adirelle * r81344 10Yatba/BarPrototypes.lua: Yatba: fixed bar prototype design flaw. |
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| 08:53.54 | taron | wowace |
| 08:56.50 | Adirelle|work | right, here you are |
| 08:57.14 | taron | wowace |
| 09:00.01 | [SW]Dodge | :D |
| 09:00.06 | taron | wowace |
| 09:00.08 | CIA-25 | 03adirelle * r81345 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: neater .super fix, that doesn't remove it (see r81343). |
| 09:00.35 | orionshock | " taron, charon's evil twin.. tho not as bright as him " |
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| 09:02.38 | charon | has obviously failed his evilness goals |
| 09:02.41 | taron | wowace |
| 09:02.47 | [SW]Dodge | o.o |
| 09:03.00 | [SW]Dodge | every 3minutes |
| 09:03.04 | taron | wowace |
| 09:03.15 | [SW]Dodge | ok not 3 min xD |
| 09:03.23 | taron | wowace |
| 09:03.31 | Mera | ban that retarded |
| 09:03.35 | orionshock | taron - your in the wowace channel |
| 09:04.05 | taron | yes |
| 09:04.15 | Corgan | wowace? |
| 09:04.26 | Corgan | I thought I was in wowjoker |
| 09:04.31 | Corgan | shuffles the deck |
| 09:04.47 | orionshock | hit me |
| 09:05.03 | Corgan | puts down a joker |
| 09:05.08 | Corgan | blinks |
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| 09:05.26 | Corgan | puts down another card |
| 09:05.27 | orionshock | wonders wtf that is supposed to mean... |
| 09:05.31 | Corgan | jack |
| 09:05.48 | Corgan | ace and a jack |
| 09:05.51 | Corgan | gasps at orionshock |
| 09:06.02 | Arrowmaster | little hint for anybody that gets Spore, if your creature can fly or swim well in the creature stage, dont fly over or swim in water..... something really really huge just jumped out and ate me |
| 09:06.04 | taron | wowace is correct |
| 09:06.12 | Corgan | rofl |
| 09:06.19 | orionshock | hacks corgan's paypal account for the cash |
| 09:06.29 | Corgan | Arrowmaster, I'm about to install ._. |
| 09:06.39 | taron | wowace |
| 09:06.40 | |Kev| | tomorrow, for me :( |
| 09:07.10 | orionshock | taron, wtf, why do u keep repeating the same thing? |
| 09:07.14 | Arrowmaster | taron: stop it or youll get baned |
| 09:07.29 | [SW]Dodge | Arrowmaster: what is the target of the game? i just saw some strange creatures like penises or vaginas (even both) in youtube videos O.o |
| 09:09.18 | Tigerdyr | Target of Spore is the same as Civ/Sim city |
| 09:09.27 | taron | orionshock: because it's correct |
| 09:09.32 | Arrowmaster | OMFG |
| 09:09.40 | orionshock | taron: ? |
| 09:09.42 | Arrowmaster | creature to tribal stage cut sceen |
| 09:09.47 | Arrowmaster | FUCKING AWESOME |
| 09:10.18 | taron | orionschock: wowace is correct |
| 09:10.24 | Tigerdyr | wowace is correct .. well, that depends on the context |
| 09:10.25 | Arrowmaster | 2001 refference |
| 09:10.40 | Tigerdyr | "if (wowace)" would fail if wowace wasn't initialized properly |
| 09:12.57 | taron | wowace |
| 09:13.48 | Tigerdyr | luckily, the /ignore has been invented. |
| 09:14.14 | taron | wowace is correct |
| 09:14.42 | orionshock | taron: http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en |
| 09:14.44 | orionshock | try it :p |
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| 09:14.59 | taron | wowace |
| 09:15.20 | Stanzilla | :P |
| 09:15.24 | [SW]Dodge | yay |
| 09:15.32 | Esine | Arrowmaster, I didn't want to advance to tribal stage I playde 5 hours on the creature stage nonstop :( |
| 09:15.37 | Mera | wow klined |
| 09:15.41 | Esine | and when I did my awesome flying creatures look like ants now |
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| 09:53.50 | [Liquidor] | Shirik|zZz, I would disable it if I could |
| 09:53.55 | [Liquidor] | Can't locate the script -.- |
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| 10:07.28 | thul | http://www.geocities.com/torden_gorgon/downs_balong.jpg |
| 10:08.13 | Arrowmaster | WTF |
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| 10:08.27 | Arrowmaster | a spaceship just stole one of my tribes pets! |
| 10:08.44 | Arrowmaster | make that two! |
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| 10:20.25 | CIA-25 | OneCompanion: 03Mera-92869 * r23 10OneCompanion/: |
| 10:20.25 | CIA-25 | OneCompanion: OneCompanion: |
| 10:20.25 | CIA-25 | OneCompanion: -folder create |
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| 10:49.36 | CIA-25 | 03Mera-92869 * r25 10OneCompanion/libs/: |
| 10:49.36 | CIA-25 | OneCompanion: |
| 10:49.37 | CIA-25 | -deleting embeded libs |
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| 10:57.16 | CIA-25 | OneCompanion: |
| 10:57.16 | CIA-25 | -adding externals |
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| 11:27.19 | CIA-25 | 03adirelle * r81346 10Yatba/ (Groups.lua Options.lua Yatba.lua): |
| 11:27.19 | CIA-25 | Yatba: |
| 11:27.20 | CIA-25 | - added left, top and opacity sliders to group layout configuration, |
| 11:27.20 | CIA-25 | - added a backdrop to unlocked groups. |
| 11:30.53 | CIA-25 | 037destiny * r81347 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Felmyst.lua: BigWigs: koKR Update |
| 11:38.21 | CIA-25 | 03pericles 07WotLK * r81348 10ShockAndAwe/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:38.22 | CIA-25 | ShockAndAwe: - |
| 11:38.22 | CIA-25 | Moved Locales to subdirectory to permit permissions based editing |
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| 12:07.15 | chexsum | ugh @ vista sp1 upgrade - fatal exceptions with wow :((( |
| 12:08.08 | Throngy | i've been getting quite a few lately |
| 12:08.21 | Throngy | not immediately after SP1 upgrade tho |
| 12:10.01 | Fisker- | >:3 |
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| 12:26.27 | Adirelle|work | ~seen Toadkiller |
| 12:26.32 | purl | toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-18-182-231.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 8h 55m 17s ago, saying: 'Not quite as fun but also psychologically illuminating: be mildly hungry, whip up a batch of popcorn and place in a bowl within hands reach while watching television but DO NOT EAT ANY. Now watch how as soon as the rest of your brain melts into watching tv the popcorn eating part reaches out &grabs some!'. |
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| 12:43.40 | purl | adirelle <n=adirelle@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 13h 41m 52s ago, saying: 'night'. |
| 12:43.47 | dodga | zomg. |
| 12:45.08 | Adirelle|work | hint: try with Adirelle|work |
| 12:45.14 | dodga | oh okay |
| 12:45.19 | dodga | ~seen Adirelle|work |
| 12:45.20 | purl | adirelle|work is currently on #wowace (7h 21m 30s). Has said a total of 28 messages. Is idling for 12s, last said: 'hint: try with Adirelle|work'. |
| 12:45.24 | dodga | zomg. |
| 12:46.22 | dodga | Adirelle|work: Can I remove the bar part of groups in Yatba? And freely position the duration around the icon? |
| 12:46.32 | dodga | e.g. I want only icons and duration |
| 12:46.48 | dodga | Maybe shortened name in the icon |
| 12:47.01 | Adirelle|work | er not yet |
| 12:47.09 | Adirelle|work | dunno if it's doable though |
| 12:47.18 | dodga | Dooo eeeeeet! :> |
| 12:47.36 | dodga | imho bars take up too much screen estate |
| 12:47.38 | Adirelle|work | it uses LibBars-1.0 and is called YATBA, like in Yet Another Timer *BAR* Addon :p |
| 12:47.55 | dodga | Huh, do say.. :> |
| 12:48.22 | chexsum | fork it and call it NATBA |
| 12:48.46 | Adirelle|work | Though having an icon portrait with your buffs/debuffs close to it looks a good idea too |
| 12:49.14 | dodga | Adirelle|work: I do that currently on live for my debuff (like VT, SW:P, VE, ...) on the current target using DebuffFilter |
| 12:49.21 | chexsum | is it better than classtimer ? |
| 12:49.44 | dodga | But I can imagine having a group doing that and one for group/raid CC would be cool |
| 12:49.45 | Adirelle|work | chexsum: define better ^^ |
| 12:49.52 | dodga | or stuff on my focus target |
| 12:50.00 | dodga | Uh, can groups only show crap epending |
| 12:50.11 | dodga | on the unit? like, only affecting focus, targettarget etc? |
| 12:50.22 | chexsum | class timer doesnt notice buff refreshes and buffs you can do but another player has done |
| 12:50.33 | Pneumatus | 26 greater frost protection potion recipies from grinding wintersaber rep... i can't even give them away :< |
| 12:50.33 | Adirelle|work | dodga: actually not |
| 12:50.33 | chexsum | thatd be nice for my druid |
| 12:50.45 | dodga | Adirelle|work: Dooo eeeeeet! :> |
| 12:51.13 | Adirelle|work | dodga: and it is a bit tricky, because Yatba isn't very smart with moving bar around the groups |
| 12:51.34 | dodga | :( |
| 12:51.48 | chexsum | i used to make money with those pots |
| 12:52.00 | dodga | I hate it when there are addons that partially do what I'd like, but not exactly... :P |
| 12:52.06 | chexsum | same with the stoneskin ones |
| 12:52.18 | Adirelle|work | dodga: I feel your pain ^^ |
| 12:52.29 | dodga | Therefore |
| 12:52.31 | dodga | Dooo... :> |
| 12:52.40 | dodga | Yeah whatever, it's cool :> |
| 12:52.42 | chexsum | it was queue for bg, fly to grinding place and grind until the queue came up |
| 12:52.43 | Ellipsis | spanks dodga |
| 12:52.45 | chexsum | i miss those days |
| 12:52.55 | Ellipsis | users these days...so ungrateful and demanding ;) |
| 12:52.58 | dodga | Spanking time already? |
| 12:53.07 | dodga | Ellipsis: You know I only demand you, right? |
| 12:53.18 | Ellipsis | aww :x |
| 12:53.57 | dodga | Awkward silence? :D |
| 12:54.32 | Adirelle|work | adding target/focus may requires some work |
| 12:54.51 | Adirelle|work | but hiding the bar may just require *a lot* of work |
| 12:55.54 | dodga | I wonder do all people play on 30" screens or have their complete UI clustered with unit frames and bars |
| 12:56.13 | chexsum | 30" |
| 12:56.21 | dodga | Yeah, that's what I thought |
| 12:56.40 | Ellipsis | I play on a 20" and my UI is chock full of emptiness |
| 12:56.47 | chexsum | mines only 22" but i feel its adequate |
| 12:57.19 | dodga | I think my UI is pretty empty, too, and I lieks it sooooooooooooo much |
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| 12:57.45 | Ellipsis | random question; does LDB allow multiple displays to show the same data source at once? |
| 12:57.47 | Adirelle|work | I dropped party and raid unitframes in favor of grid |
| 12:57.55 | chexsum | my uis full when im in a 40 man raid |
| 12:58.42 | Adirelle|work | Ellipsis: no reason it shouldn't |
| 12:58.42 | chexsum | has to be that way if youre a healer |
| 12:58.42 | Ellipsis | hmkay |
| 12:58.42 | Ellipsis | you have a point, chexsum :P |
| 12:58.42 | dodga | Adirelle|work: Me too, but I still need Pitbull for player, pet, focus, target, targettarget... and pastamancer already declined my request to make frames in Grid for that :( |
| 12:58.42 | Ellipsis | fortunately I don't heal! :> |
| 12:58.42 | chexsum | when i tank i just have me, the target and death list lol |
| 12:58.42 | dodga | And I currently don't have the time to hack that together myself :o |
| 12:59.05 | Ellipsis | dodga: are you not happy with pitbull for the non-group UFs? |
| 12:59.35 | Adirelle|work | one point to you dodga, is that yatba eats tons*t of space in raids |
| 12:59.37 | chexsum | pitbull made to look like perfect raid is nice |
| 12:59.49 | Adirelle|work | I had to limit the number of bars of my main group |
| 12:59.56 | dodga | Ellipsis: I like Pitbull, it does what I want, but I'd really like something more.. integrated, compact, I dunno. Pitbull seems displaced in my setup |
| 12:59.59 | chexsum | wish i could create a group of groups though |
| 13:00.26 | Ellipsis | dodga: have you tried sage? |
| 13:00.28 | Adirelle|work | chexsum: in yatba or pitbull ? |
| 13:00.37 | chexsum | pitbull |
| 13:00.37 | dodga | Ellipsis: Nopey, what's that? |
| 13:00.39 | Ellipsis | it's the opposite end of the spectrum when it comes to that :P |
| 13:00.47 | Ellipsis | tuller's UF mod |
| 13:00.57 | chexsum | its be nice to have g1-4 then g5-8 |
| 13:01.02 | Ellipsis | you might want to try it, if you don't need pettarget (that was the killer for me) |
| 13:01.23 | chexsum | raid pets can gth |
| 13:01.48 | chexsum | wish i could see them in bgs but not raids actually |
| 13:02.02 | dodga | Sage looks... minimalistic :> Might try it next week |
| 13:02.06 | chexsum | healing felhunters in bgs is ftw |
| 13:02.19 | ag` | all I can say is that I something really nice coming out for wotlk |
| 13:02.51 | chexsum | i use aguf for wotlk |
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| 13:03.23 | ag` | easier to configure, lighter than the other "big" unit frames as perl, pitbull etc., and you can create lua layouts for it like oUF |
| 13:04.13 | dodga | Can it make coffee? |
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| 13:04.29 | ag` | no |
| 13:04.40 | dodga | Does it -at least- have boobs? |
| 13:04.42 | ag` | I try not to include stupid stuff |
| 13:04.53 | Adirelle|work | coffee is never stupid stuff |
| 13:04.54 | ag` | :P |
| 13:04.54 | dodga | Hey, boobs are not stupid :/ |
| 13:04.59 | Adirelle|work | except stupid coffee, ofc |
| 13:05.05 | dodga | Oh yeah, coffee too, I guess |
| 13:05.06 | ag` | stupid coffee |
| 13:05.10 | ag` | what's that? |
| 13:05.10 | chexsum | so just milkshakes then |
| 13:05.17 | Adirelle|work | stupid coffee if stupid |
| 13:05.23 | Adirelle|work | s/if/is/ |
| 13:05.27 | Adirelle|work | that's all |
| 13:05.32 | chexsum | everyone likes milkshake |
| 13:05.33 | ag` | anon-style |
| 13:06.03 | chexsum | purl you are redundant |
| 13:06.06 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, chexsum |
| 13:06.06 | Adirelle|work | stupid coffee is the sole exception to the fact that coffee is never stupid |
| 13:06.15 | chexsum | precisely |
| 13:06.28 | Adirelle|work | purl what is stupid coffee ? |
| 13:06.29 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, Adirelle|work |
| 13:06.35 | Adirelle|work | aaww |
| 13:06.42 | Adirelle|work | ~stupid coffee |
| 13:06.51 | dodga | ~~~~ |
| 13:06.52 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT dodga!!! |
| 13:06.54 | dodga | Never! |
| 13:07.36 | Groktar | i'm starting to remember why i dropped out of school |
| 13:07.42 | Groktar | i'm a terrible programmer |
| 13:08.16 | Adirelle|work | DISCLAIMER : I don't like this kind of music, but it is aimed for us, geeks : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYQUsp-jxDQ |
| 13:08.27 | Adirelle|work | (and yes, it's old) |
| 13:08.30 | dodga | Heh reminds me that some people get their diploma in software engineering without having coded a single line by themselves :D |
| 13:08.31 | Groktar | devours Adirelle's soul in frustration |
| 13:08.44 | Groktar | hehe |
| 13:08.53 | Groktar | this is a really stupid, simple assignment |
| 13:08.57 | Groktar | and i can't do it |
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| 13:09.36 | dodga | What do you need to do? |
| 13:09.49 | Groktar | remove recursion from a binary tree traversal |
| 13:10.07 | dodga | mkay... |
| 13:10.17 | dodga | I'm glad I don't need to do that anymore :D |
| 13:10.21 | Adirelle|work | ^^ |
| 13:10.52 | dodga | We did that stuff in the initial courses, and they're like some years in the past now :D |
| 13:10.57 | Adirelle|work | I'm glag I don't have to ear stupid users' request about my addons... er... wait... |
| 13:11.09 | Groktar | it's just a standard postorder traversal, except after it visits the node it checks whether the left is empty, and if not it traverses the right again |
| 13:11.10 | dodga | Adirelle|work: Doo.. oh, yeah, coffee, huh :o |
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| 13:12.18 | Adirelle|work | stupid coffee is stupid, stupid users are stupid, are users coffee ? |
| 13:12.32 | dodga | seems so |
| 13:12.50 | Adirelle|work | I'm confused |
| 13:13.18 | dodga | Here, have some hot black user. |
| 13:13.34 | dodga | Hm, that sound wrong on so many levels... |
| 13:13.48 | Adirelle|work | :D |
| 13:14.14 | Adirelle|work | that sounds so wrong that it is quite awesome :p |
| 13:14.39 | dodga | :> |
| 13:15.16 | dodga | damned, I need to procrastinate less. Final exam in 18 hours |
| 13:15.27 | dodga | Where is that Rocky soundtrack, hmm |
| 13:15.32 | Adirelle|work | the more I look at what LibBars does, the more I tell myself I can't get rid of it to display buttons instead |
| 13:15.41 | Groktar | final exams in september!??!!? |
| 13:16.02 | dodga | Groktar: Well. Not "finals", but my last exam before I can start my thesis |
| 13:16.10 | dodga | Nothing unusual in Germany.. |
| 13:16.21 | Groktar | oh, that makes sense |
| 13:17.01 | dodga | It does? That must mean I'm not entirely stupidified by all that crap I learned in the last weeks (and this channel) |
| 13:17.48 | Adirelle|work | dodga: what are you calling crap ? stupid coffee ! :$ |
| 13:18.02 | dodga | Oh yeah |
| 13:18.15 | dodga | Of course I meant all that stupid coffee I learned! |
| 13:18.36 | Groktar | i honestly don't understand why this gets stuck in an endless loop |
| 13:18.49 | dodga | this.right = this; :> |
| 13:19.02 | dodga | "out of memory" :> |
| 13:19.10 | Groktar | heh |
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| 13:19.42 | Groktar | i would totally pastey it in the c/c++ channels but they're mean to really horrible programmers such as myself |
| 13:19.55 | Adirelle|work | groktar: use a paste bin |
| 13:19.59 | chexsum_ | bsod :( |
| 13:20.08 | chexsum_ | 20% oc isnt good apparently |
| 13:20.16 | Groktar | MORE VOLTAGE |
| 13:21.03 | chexsum__ | i think its my memory that isnt liking it' |
| 13:21.35 | Adirelle|work | I'm definitively too lazy today to add target and focus to Yatba |
| 13:21.52 | dodga | Your memory isn't liking it? Maybe Ellipsis knows what to do. I see her liking all kinds of stuff in here every day! |
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| 13:22.30 | Adirelle|work | plus they will overlap with existing unit filters :/ |
| 13:23.00 | kenlyric | do parties get a dedicated UI channel, or only raids? |
| 13:23.15 | Groktar | parties |
| 13:23.19 | Groktar | omen works in parties |
| 13:23.45 | dodga | I think there is party, raid and one that smartly uses raid if in raid and party otherwise, no? |
| 13:24.09 | Groktar | has no idea |
| 13:24.10 | chexsum__ | group |
| 13:24.19 | Groktar | goes back to staring at his nonfunctional code |
| 13:24.25 | Adirelle|work | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendAddonMessage |
| 13:24.50 | Adirelle|work | use RAID, it gets downgraded to "PARTY" when you're not in raid |
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| 13:26.32 | kenlyric | I really want yatba to be able to tell me the duration of debuffs on enemies that other party members send (without the idiotic "update every second" behavior of older mods of that genre. |
| 13:26.42 | kenlyric | right now I can't remember if yatba even does target debuffs... |
| 13:27.04 | Adirelle|work | kenlyric: it does, but we can't get others' debuff on live (API restriction) |
| 13:27.12 | Adirelle|work | kenlyric: it should work on WotLK though |
| 13:27.22 | dodga | We need to do Superduper Yatba 2000 that does not depend on LibBars |
| 13:27.36 | dodga | Because I wants ma timers to be round like clocks! :> |
| 13:28.01 | chexsum__ | sounds lame |
| 13:28.02 | kenlyric | I know I installed yatba for a reason, but I can't remember why, now. |
| 13:28.12 | Adirelle|work | kenlyric: to test it ? ^^ |
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| 13:28.17 | kenlyric | right |
| 13:28.25 | Adirelle|work | because it tracks other things that just player, focus and target ? |
| 13:28.34 | dodga | chexsum: I'm just randomly hatin' on everything. Putting flame in the oil 'n stuff :> |
| 13:28.40 | kenlyric | party pet? |
| 13:28.45 | kenlyric | :) |
| 13:28.58 | Adirelle|work | party, pet, raid, any target you ever put a buff/debuff on it |
| 13:28.59 | kenlyric | I think that was why, I wanted party buffs |
| 13:29.03 | ramoz | isnt libdatabroker on wowace? |
| 13:29.34 | ramoz | oh its one of tekkubs |
| 13:29.34 | kenlyric | must try it again, I think. |
| 13:30.15 | Groktar | http://pastey.net/95414 <-- my horrible code |
| 13:30.17 | kenlyric | I ended up just making the hunter pet my focus, so I could see its buffs/debuffs all the time |
| 13:30.26 | kenlyric | since silly zomgbuffs won't buff the hunter pet |
| 13:30.29 | Groktar | looks for a rusty nail |
| 13:31.31 | Adirelle|work | wow, I don't even remember what &*t is supposed to mean |
| 13:31.41 | Groktar | uh, just pretend it's not there |
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| 13:31.50 | dodga | the address of the thing that t points to? uuh.. |
| 13:32.42 | Groktar | Traverse works, but TraverseNR gets stuck in a continual loop |
| 13:32.50 | KriLL3 | My GTX 260 just got shipped. :D |
| 13:32.54 | Groktar | would ask in #c but they're mean |
| 13:32.58 | dodga | KriLL3: How much did you pay? |
| 13:33.09 | KriLL3 | dodga: 2600:- |
| 13:33.51 | chexsum | never seen <stack... so nfi |
| 13:33.54 | dodga | ... w00t? |
| 13:34.01 | dodga | pesos or what :D |
| 13:34.09 | chexsum | c for life |
| 13:34.16 | KriLL3 | Kronor |
| 13:34.23 | KriLL3 | or SEK |
| 13:34.45 | dodga | Groktar: Hm, if type is 1 your pushing temp again on the stack, so you'll be always looping through it, don't you? |
| 13:35.33 | Groktar | where do i do that? i see myself pushing temp on only as type 2 |
| 13:35.54 | Adirelle|work | Groktar: line 24 |
| 13:35.55 | Ellipsis | OH GOD MY EYES |
| 13:36.00 | dodga | temp = pop, .. case 1: push(temp) |
| 13:36.01 | Ellipsis | why didn't you warn us there was C on that pastey? |
| 13:36.21 | charon | it's C++, actually. |
| 13:36.24 | Groktar | cackles maniacally at Ellipsis |
| 13:36.32 | Groktar | according to the people in c++ it's not |
| 13:36.33 | dodga | Uh we found Ellipsis' kryptonite! |
| 13:36.37 | chexsum | thats not c |
| 13:36.39 | Adirelle|work | Groktar: btw shouldn't you test !emptyT(temp->right) and emptyT(temp->left) before pushing them ? (or after poping them, whatever) |
| 13:36.40 | Groktar | and the people in #c claim it's c |
| 13:36.48 | Groktar | er, people in #c claim it's c++ |
| 13:36.51 | charon | Groktar: C doesn't have the templating system |
| 13:36.55 | charon | for stack<int> and such |
| 13:36.56 | Groktar | ya, i know |
| 13:37.06 | dodga | C doesn't have namespaces, too AFAIK |
| 13:37.08 | Adirelle|work | Ellipsis: actually he warned us a few time ago |
| 13:37.08 | Groktar | my style is very much more C than C++ |
| 13:37.11 | CIA-25 | 03jokeyrhyme * r81349 10FuBar_RaidSaveFu/RaidSaveFu.lua: |
| 13:37.11 | CIA-25 | FuBar_RaidSaveFu: |
| 13:37.11 | CIA-25 | - added missing argument for CHAT_SYSTEM_MESSAGE |
| 13:37.11 | CIA-25 | - use RAID_INSTANCE_WELCOME instead of PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 13:37.11 | CIA-25 | - fixed bug in class coloring code that would occasionally eat letters |
| 13:37.17 | Groktar | so both channels hate me |
| 13:37.18 | chexsum | doesnt look like ++ either although i havent done much of it |
| 13:37.26 | chexsum | ansi c++ that is |
| 13:37.45 | dodga | KriLL3: so around 90 euro? huh?! :o |
| 13:38.15 | KriLL3 | errm no |
| 13:38.20 | charon | Groktar: well if you want "serious" criticism, i think you should try to express that type stuff in terms of classes instead of opaque numbers |
| 13:38.31 | KriLL3 | "2600 Swedish kronor = 275.182939" |
| 13:38.37 | KriLL3 | according to teh google |
| 13:38.37 | charon | i haven't really pondered what the code does, but a switch(type) isn't very c++ish |
| 13:38.48 | dodga | Oh, Sweden. I see :D |
| 13:39.07 | dodga | Yeah okay, that makes more sense :D |
| 13:39.13 | Groktar | type probably is a bad name for what it does |
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| 13:40.50 | Tifi | Groktar, why don't you store the tree depth first in an array? that way df traversal = for loop |
| 13:41.06 | Groktar | data structure not up to me |
| 13:42.02 | chexsum | stack<...> = stl apparently |
| 13:42.14 | chexsum | never seen it lol |
| 13:42.33 | CIA-25 | 03elsia * r81350 10Recount/ (6 files): |
| 13:42.33 | CIA-25 | Recount: |
| 13:42.33 | CIA-25 | - Fixed scrollbars code for WotLK. |
| 13:44.50 | Tifi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_traversal#Iterative_traversing |
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| 13:45.26 | Groktar | my nonrecursive postorder actually works correctly |
| 13:45.54 | Groktar | it's that last little sneaky part on line 6-7 that i'm having trouble with |
| 13:47.11 | Tifi | jeez that code hurts my eyes |
| 13:47.16 | Groktar | hehe |
| 13:47.18 | Tifi | sry cant help you ^^ |
| 13:47.20 | charon | i fail to see what it's supposed to do on those lines... you terminate if you hit a leaf, you scan the left, you scan the right, then finally you scan the right again if the left wasn't empty? |
| 13:47.28 | charon | the last part sounds wrong |
| 13:48.02 | Groktar | it's the professor making the assignment difficult |
| 13:48.32 | Tifi | why dont you post the assignment? ^^ |
| 13:49.03 | Groktar | the assignment is to implement the proceudure on lines 1-11 non-recursively |
| 13:49.22 | charon | why don't you draw a picture of the call stack and the variable 't' in each stack frame |
| 13:49.30 | charon | then just map the call stack to your own stack<whatever> |
| 13:49.43 | charon | i don't think you need two-state processing for that |
| 13:49.52 | charon | unless you expect the tree to change during traversal. |
| 13:50.16 | winkiller | Groktar: "doable in n*log n - proof is trivial" ;) |
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| 13:53.04 | Tifi | charon, you also need to know what you already did when you come back to a node, so tracking state is necessary |
| 13:53.43 | Adirelle|work | er... |
| 13:53.45 | Adirelle|work | wait... |
| 13:53.54 | Adirelle|work | groktar, is it really the code you are running ? |
| 13:54.05 | charon | oh, i missed the data printing thing in the middle, yes that does complicate matters |
| 13:55.15 | Adirelle|work | Groktar: line 31-32 actually reayds : if(!emptyT(&temp->left)) { t_ptr.push(temp->right); } t_type.push(1); |
| 13:55.29 | Adirelle|work | the t_type.push(1) is out of the "if" block |
| 13:56.03 | Adirelle|work | I'm 90% sure it screws up your code in some way |
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| 13:57.08 | chexsum | curlys are good |
| 13:57.11 | Groktar | oh shit |
| 13:57.40 | Groktar | omg |
| 13:58.11 | Groktar | loves Adirelle|work forever and ever and ever |
| 13:58.24 | Groktar | that certainly explains it |
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| 13:58.45 | Groktar | it kept marking everything as having not been visited >< |
| 13:59.07 | chexsum | so she good now ? |
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| 13:59.09 | Adirelle|work | that's why one should always consider curlys mandatory |
| 13:59.42 | Groktar | seriously :( |
| 13:59.58 | Tifi | or use a newline after a ; |
| 14:00.00 | Tifi | ... |
| 14:00.04 | Adirelle|work | yeah too |
| 14:00.18 | Ellipsis | ~lart Groktar |
| 14:00.18 | purl | rm -rf's Groktar |
| 14:00.24 | Adirelle|work | ~fail Groktar |
| 14:00.25 | purl | Groktar, you Fail! |
| 14:00.28 | winkiller | owned by { |
| 14:00.32 | pb_ee1 | ~fail Fail |
| 14:00.33 | purl | Fail, you Fail! |
| 14:00.40 | Adirelle|work | no, you, pb_ee1 |
| 14:00.45 | pb_ee1 | no, you |
| 14:00.52 | Adirelle|work | er... |
| 14:00.53 | Adirelle|work | mkay |
| 14:00.53 | Ellipsis | ~whaleslap pb_ee1 |
| 14:00.54 | purl | ACTION beats pb_ee1 upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 14:00.54 | pb_ee1 | ~fail Win |
| 14:00.55 | purl | Win, you Fail! |
| 14:01.02 | pb_ee1 | ~dodge |
| 14:01.02 | purl | ACTION dodges! |
| 14:01.07 | pb_ee1 | noooo |
| 14:01.10 | Adirelle|work | ~purl |
| 14:01.10 | purl | ACTION purrs |
| 14:01.17 | pb_ee1 | ~purr |
| 14:01.18 | purl | ACTION *purrs purrs purrs* |
| 14:01.28 | Groktar | so that's basically the only change i've made in the past 3 hours |
| 14:01.29 | Groktar | >< |
| 14:01.51 | Groktar | like i said, i haven't done any programming in two years |
| 14:02.33 | chexsum | leave it up to the geeks imo |
| 14:02.53 | chexsum | real men dont code |
| 14:03.13 | winkiller | but schedule meetings? |
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| 14:03.46 | Ellipsis | whee, page file just hit 2gb \o/ |
| 14:03.50 | chexsum | postpone imo |
| 14:04.02 | chexsum | reschedule |
| 14:05.28 | Adirelle|work | dodga: still here ? |
| 14:05.38 | dodga | Always. |
| 14:05.51 | Ellipsis | lies |
| 14:05.58 | Ellipsis | you sleep~ |
| 14:05.59 | Adirelle|work | about yatba, target and focus |
| 14:06.04 | dodga | Ellipsis: I'd never lie to you :P |
| 14:06.10 | Adirelle|work | actually the units are : player pet party raid friendly hostile |
| 14:06.23 | dodga | I see |
| 14:06.30 | Adirelle|work | and they are handled such way they are not overlapping |
| 14:06.45 | Adirelle|work | e.g. party is "party members but pet and player" |
| 14:07.11 | dodga | Hmkay |
| 14:07.11 | Adirelle|work | so you can just uncheck player or pet to ignore buff on thoses |
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| 14:07.37 | dodga | But no chance to make a group e.g. for only focus? |
| 14:07.56 | Adirelle|work | well, if I add focus and/or target, I just basically dump all the others |
| 14:08.09 | dodga | Hm |
| 14:08.12 | Adirelle|work | because focus may overlaps |
| 14:08.26 | dodga | Yeah I see, kinda sucks |
| 14:08.30 | dodga | ~blame Ellipsis |
| 14:08.30 | purl | ACTION blames Ellipsis (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 14:08.40 | Adirelle|work | Canada, lol |
| 14:08.54 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 14:09.00 | Tifi | purl watches south park? |
| 14:09.05 | dodga | Obviously |
| 14:09.25 | Adirelle|work | moreover, I'll have to move the timer bars around each time you change your focus or target :/ |
| 14:10.10 | dodga | Adirelle|work: Yeah don't sweat it, was just an idea, thought it would be easy to implement, but no biggie |
| 14:10.22 | chexsum | waits for the dooo eeeet |
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| 14:13.01 | dodga | Doo... |
| 14:13.04 | Groktar | sends his horrible c++ code to destroy ckknight |
| 14:13.11 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 14:13.13 | dodga | Heh, gotya there for a sec huh? :> |
| 14:13.39 | dodga | Anyway, gotta bury myself in this opengl stupid coffee for some more hours |
| 14:14.02 | Adirelle|work | Or I may add a dropdown where you select : "target", "focus" or "stuff" (<= need a better label for the later) |
| 14:14.30 | dodga | I kinda like stuff |
| 14:14.35 | chexsum | buggers ? |
| 14:14.43 | dodga | It's like "Kinderüberraschung", you don't know what you get |
| 14:14.53 | Ellipsis | stuff is a perfectly good label |
| 14:14.57 | Ellipsis | "enable stuff" |
| 14:15.04 | Ellipsis | "allow things to do stuff" |
| 14:15.07 | dodga | Hm I wonder if people outside Germany know what that is |
| 14:15.13 | Adirelle|work | purl, translate de fr Kinderüberraschung |
| 14:15.26 | Adirelle|work | thanks you purl |
| 14:15.29 | Adirelle|work | you're so useful |
| 14:16.10 | dodga | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinder_Surprise .. wtf :> |
| 14:16.37 | Adirelle|work | oh |
| 14:17.24 | Groktar | maybe i shouldn't be commenting my code with things like //plx to not be segfaulting kthx |
| 14:17.55 | dodga | I do that all the time, perfectly valid inline comment |
| 14:18.15 | Adirelle|work | whatever, gotta go, my wife is stuck in a transport strike and I have to take our daugther back from her nanny |
| 14:18.29 | dodga | Doooo eeeeet :Y |
| 14:18.34 | Adirelle|work | ... |
| 14:18.36 | Adirelle|work | later |
| 14:18.48 | dodga | He'll smack me real hard some day... :o |
| 14:18.49 | Groktar | huh |
| 14:18.58 | Groktar | my code doesn't make any sense to me anymore |
| 14:19.18 | Groktar | o, nm |
| 14:19.23 | Groktar | i get it |
| 14:19.23 | dodga | So you're into Zen coding too? |
| 14:20.16 | Tigerdyr | Zen coding .. is that like Holistic driving? |
| 14:20.28 | Tigerdyr | "that car looks like it knows where it is going" |
| 14:20.43 | Groktar | more like i can't read it through the blood in my eyes |
| 14:20.53 | Ellipsis | +3 internets for the reference, Tigerdyr |
| 14:21.05 | dodga | Tigerdyr: Yeah along the lines... Like you don't have a clue what your coding but it does what you want. Still you don't understand a line of it :D |
| 14:21.14 | dodga | So you've written it basically in trance :> |
| 14:21.24 | dodga | In a higher state of consciousness.. Zen :> |
| 14:21.25 | Tigerdyr | dodga: that sounds like my code written in sugarrush |
| 14:22.12 | dodga | probably :) |
| 14:22.41 | Tigerdyr | I've read my code over the day after - going "erh, that doesn't work - <compilecompile> whu?? it does?" |
| 14:22.43 | Tigerdyr | Zen coding ;-) |
| 14:23.01 | dodga | I should create a church for that |
| 14:23.08 | Tigerdyr | Too late :) |
| 14:23.14 | dodga | damn. |
| 14:23.54 | Tigerdyr | hmm.. you could in theory write a book called "Zen and the art of Code maintenance" ..although that would probably be a ripoff and not be about coding at all. |
| 14:24.31 | dodga | I'll think about that after I survived my oral exam in about 17 hours :o |
| 14:25.09 | Tigerdyr | I've been superbored at work - have eaten too much energybar and drunk way too much coffee today |
| 14:25.41 | dodga | You could branch Yatba and make it hide the bar.. :>> |
| 14:25.49 | dodga | Anyway, I really need to learn a bit now :o |
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| 14:26.16 | Tigerdyr | dodga: mm.. figure out why X^0 = 1 |
| 14:26.36 | Tigerdyr | (not that I know if that is new or not ;-) ) |
| 14:26.50 | dodga | Hehehe, nice one :> |
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| 14:35.14 | CIA-31 | 03mikk 07Ace3 * r81351 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Add public API: aUF:RegisterTextFunction(name, data) |
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| 14:40.12 | Polarina | ~logs |
| 14:40.12 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
| 14:42.18 | thul | august 2. 2008: 10:17.08 thul CHOCOLATE RAIN |
| 14:42.22 | thul | I remember that |
| 14:42.31 | thul | I listened to chocolate rain approx 10 times pr day that period |
| 14:42.32 | thul | interesting |
| 14:43.10 | Ellipsis | licks thul |
| 14:43.35 | AckisWork | gets a camera. |
| 14:43.38 | thul | gets an erection |
| 14:44.17 | AckisWork | wonders what was licked. |
| 14:44.57 | thul | 18:32.17 Ellipsis I love those trees <- Ellipsis is a treehugger |
| 14:45.22 | Ellipsis | hugs thul's tree |
| 14:45.44 | AckisWork | :O |
| 14:46.02 | chexsum | 27XEWB-DPE4-87824X-CRNV-9BC4YW if anyones still waiting - first in best dressed |
| 14:46.16 | CIA-31 | 03elsia * r81352 10RecountDeathTrack/DeathTrack.lua: |
| 14:46.16 | CIA-31 | RecountDeathTrack: |
| 14:46.16 | CIA-31 | - Made WotLK friendly. |
| 14:46.17 | Fisker- | wuts dat? |
| 14:46.23 | chexsum | beta key |
| 14:46.27 | thul | gets an even larger erection |
| 14:46.27 | Fisker- | for uwt? |
| 14:46.30 | Fisker- | wut* |
| 14:46.35 | chexsum | wotlk |
| 14:46.39 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 14:46.41 | Kolie | 1 error left. |
| 14:47.08 | Ellipsis | generous of you chexsum :P |
| 14:47.31 | chexsum | i hated waiting so meh |
| 14:47.40 | Larana | AckisWork: Does the ARL for 2.4 work with beta, or do I need to wait for updates on WoWI for the beta version updates? |
| 14:49.01 | thul | I so want to make Ellipsis + cave-jokes now |
| 14:49.05 | Ellipsis | why would you use ARL on beta? |
| 14:49.06 | thul | but I'll pass, since I'm an innocent fellow |
| 14:49.15 | Ellipsis | it's not like any recipes you get there count :P |
| 14:49.43 | chexsum | beta is just a big dream |
| 14:49.46 | Larana | To test it. :p |
| 14:49.52 | AckisWork | Larana: it works but the recipe DB isn't updated |
| 14:50.25 | AckisWork | at least it should work (tm) |
| 14:50.40 | Larana | Aye, knew that the DB still wasn't working. But once it does I'll be a giddy little boomkin. |
| 14:50.44 | Polarina | AckisWork: Can you dry-code the recipes? |
| 14:50.59 | AckisWork | hahaha :P |
| 14:50.59 | Pneumatus | little + boomkin, does not compute |
| 14:51.06 | Larana | lol |
| 14:51.58 | CIA-31 | 03elsia * r81353 10Recount/ (GUI_Config.lua GUI_Realtime.lua): |
| 14:51.58 | CIA-31 | Recount: |
| 14:51.58 | CIA-31 | - Some fixes relating to WotLK support |
| 14:52.10 | AckisWork | Larana: I'm in the process of a complete (mostly) rewrite of the backend to incorporate a new database structure (which so far is 100% dry-coded) so I'll be finishing that up and then getting the new DB structure in place... however life is getting hectic for me |
| 14:52.18 | thul | I'll make it soooo dry for you *theeth snap* |
| 14:52.58 | Pneumatus | getting a dataminer to set all the new flags is gonna be fun |
| 14:53.05 | AckisWork | heh |
| 14:53.09 | Kalroth | thul: That's what she said last night. |
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| 14:53.36 | thul | Kalroth: you have seen the video? :-P |
| 14:53.44 | AckisWork | zomg Larana is a girl! |
| 14:53.49 | Kalroth | thul: No, I'm not sure I want to now :p |
| 14:53.50 | Larana | Heh |
| 14:53.52 | Larana | Yeah |
| 14:54.04 | Kalroth | omg fake, there's no gurls on the intarwebs |
| 14:54.19 | thul | Kalroth: it is a fun, fun, fun video. |
| 14:54.27 | AckisWork | was making a bad joke |
| 14:54.30 | thul | Kalroth: parody/humour/sex thing |
| 14:54.47 | Larana | ~hug AckisWork |
| 14:54.48 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs AckisWork |
| 14:54.48 | AckisWork | http://www.explosm.net/comics/1392/ |
| 14:54.51 | Kalroth | it's like that dutch beer commercial? |
| 14:54.52 | AckisWork | whee! |
| 14:55.34 | Kalroth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH7bjIajc0A this one (warning, it's a little sexist) |
| 14:55.48 | Larana | Aww, I love Syanide & Happiness |
| 14:56.44 | Ellipsis | Kalroth: I lol'ed |
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| 14:57.21 | Kalroth | I think it's disgusting |
| 14:57.28 | Kalroth | I'd never share my beer with another man |
| 14:58.49 | Larana | Hmm, to lvl my hunter, do dailies or play on Beta...? |
| 14:58.59 | kenlyric | LOL |
| 14:59.34 | AckisWork | Larana: make me a sammich |
| 15:00.10 | Larana | makes AckisWork a sammich of peanutbutter and pickles. |
| 15:00.39 | AckisWork | om nom nom noms |
| 15:00.44 | Larana | Ewww |
| 15:01.16 | AckisWork | don't knock it til you've tried it |
| 15:01.36 | kenlyric | I have |
| 15:06.00 | Polarina | Larana: Play on beta AND level your hunter (multi-tasking). |
| 15:06.44 | Larana | Lol, err, I don't know if my puter could dual box, and also not sure how well I could play on beta and level on live. |
| 15:08.00 | AckisWork | Larana: bot! |
| 15:08.26 | Larana | That'd take too long to set up. ;) |
| 15:09.05 | Ellipsis | even bots run on computers :P |
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| 15:12.29 | CIA-31 | 03ackis 07NewDB * r81354 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.lua CHANGELOG.txt): |
| 15:12.29 | CIA-31 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 15:12.29 | CIA-31 | - Reorganized file structure (all non-reviewed/rewritten functions are moved to the end right now) |
| 15:12.29 | CIA-31 | - Created detailed function comments for review/rewritten functions |
| 15:12.29 | CIA-31 | - Feedback requested: do this for Wrath only or consider non-Wrath clients? |
| 15:12.30 | CIA-31 | - Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p) |
| 15:14.00 | AckisWork | I'm actually surprised that it compiles |
| 15:15.17 | harl | bah.. i hate it when people invite me without asking me first |
| 15:15.33 | [Liquidor] | You guys know of any proffession chat bots? |
| 15:17.20 | Larana | harl: the only time I do that is if it's for a group quest where it's just me and one other guy and the quest mob has already spawned, but usually I try to send a tell right before I issue the invite. |
| 15:17.45 | AckisWork | randomly invites people that are killing the same shit he's killing |
| 15:19.01 | kenlyric | does that ever work |
| 15:19.08 | AckisWork | quite often |
| 15:19.08 | kenlyric | it never worked in TBC launch |
| 15:19.31 | harl | i add people to my ignore list who invite me more than one time without writing anything |
| 15:19.58 | kenlyric | but when threre are 40 of you trying to kill the same area of mobs, you should have to ask |
| 15:20.09 | kenlyric | you should be ahppy it will go 5x as fast |
| 15:20.31 | thul | I don't do that if I'm in lfg-thing or doing some "Kill # beasts" quest |
| 15:20.35 | thul | i accept and have fun |
| 15:20.42 | thul | btw, anyone on balnazzar or ravencrest europe? :-P |
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| 15:20.57 | ag` | thul, I used to play on RC |
| 15:21.07 | ag` | long time ago tho |
| 15:21.40 | harl | doesn't want "fast", harl wants "happy" and that's not the same. |
| 15:22.02 | ag` | I moved server with some friends around s2 start because it seemed pretty dead on the alliance side |
| 15:22.11 | ag` | there was borked but that was it really |
| 15:22.15 | ag` | I guess it is better now |
| 15:22.39 | thul | I'm on horde side. |
| 15:22.48 | Groktar | offers to write lots of c code for you |
| 15:22.49 | [Liquidor] | thul, we are a couple of guys on RC yes |
| 15:22.56 | thul | harl: grinding is _always_ funnier when faster :-P |
| 15:23.01 | thul | [Liquidor]: horde or aly? :-P |
| 15:23.23 | ag` | he's alliance I think |
| 15:23.26 | thul | ah, ok |
| 15:23.29 | harl | thul: no, it's not. |
| 15:23.38 | thul | harl: of course it is, grinding is boring |
| 15:23.46 | thul | the faster it goes, the better. |
| 15:23.49 | harl | thul: no, it's not. |
| 15:24.06 | thul | yes, it is. |
| 15:24.16 | SNiLD | Kaelten: hey is OneBag3 compatitable with 2.4? |
| 15:25.46 | Kaelten | SNiLD: I'm told it works, but not officially |
| 15:25.48 | harl | actually, that's not my point at all, thul. i want people to communicate with me and not invite me speechless and expect me to accept their invite. that's stupid. if they talk to me and if it makes sense what they propose i may accept their invite. otherwise not. |
| 15:26.15 | SNiLD | Kaelten: ok thanks |
| 15:26.20 | harl | other than that, i rather prefer to play on my own the most time. |
| 15:26.49 | Kolie | yay all compile errors gone. now my favorite part, the 180 linking errors. |
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| 15:27.15 | [SW]Dodge | Kolie: wow good luck D: |
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| 15:27.46 | thul | harl: good for you, that is the way you act. if I'm using a piece of the game that lets me be in a queue for groups (aka: the lfg-system) and people invite me, I accept the invite happily assuming that they invite me for that reason. I also do the same when grinding "20 mobs" quests. This is beacause I assume that most people invite for a reason and beacause I can leave the group if my original assumption. I may lose 2 seconds of my time and 2kcal, you may lo |
| 15:27.59 | thul | I guess people are different, I like social gameplay, you like asocial gameplay. |
| 15:28.33 | harl | on the contrary. |
| 15:28.34 | [Liquidor] | I like social gameplay, which is why I demand to hear from a player first before I accept a random invitation to anything. |
| 15:28.45 | harl | exactly |
| 15:28.58 | thul | If I'm in the queue for heroic mechanar, I accept (not very random are they then?) invites happily. |
| 15:29.03 | AckisWork | sending a tell to get into a group to kill 10 mobs that you're both killing is too much effort :P accept the invite or I'll SW:D that mob you're queuing a fireball on :P |
| 15:29.16 | thul | I offer myself and my services as a rogue in the LFG, they accept that offer. |
| 15:29.25 | [Liquidor] | Well in that case AckisWork, I would be the one inviting anyway :P |
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| 15:31.22 | thul | I think I'll try to run 2-3 heroics each week from now on, I want those vanir fists soo bad |
| 15:31.28 | thul | and that means I have to get like 240 marks |
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| 15:31.44 | Kolie | fuck, I added the correct libs and now I have 213 linker errors. |
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| 16:05.07 | Zyndrome | "Sorry, SMF was unable to connect to the database. This may be caused by the server being busy. Please try again later. " |
| 16:05.09 | Zyndrome | =( |
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| 16:23.05 | CIA-58 | 03ackis 07NewDB * r81357 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 16:23.05 | CIA-58 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 16:23.05 | CIA-58 | - Redid more functions, crafting will now follow trade format, no detailed comments for those functions as they're getting nuked come wrath |
| 16:23.05 | CIA-58 | - Some more vars are moved to local scopes |
| 16:23.06 | CIA-58 | - Updated functions to add to vendor list, changed the vendor list to match, need to update all recipes to conform to new vendor IDs (vendor IDs == NPC ID) |
| 16:23.11 | CIA-58 | - No need to translate babble faction stuff on vendor list, pass a number and depending on which that is, we will select the faction, should save on table look ups, etc. |
| 16:23.14 | CIA-58 | - Feedback requested: do this for Wrath only or consider non-Wrath clients? |
| 16:23.34 | AckisWork | long commit note is long? |
| 16:25.16 | pb_ee1 | Naa that's ok |
| 16:25.21 | pb_ee1 | Fisker- is just going to kill you |
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| 16:28.35 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: bt4 LDB launcher thingy without having ldb-1.1 in your addon = fail :X |
| 16:28.40 | CIA-58 | 03pericles 07WotLK * r81358 10ShockAndAwe/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:28.40 | CIA-58 | ShockAndAwe: - |
| 16:28.40 | CIA-58 | drycoded updates to add bars to uptime frames |
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| 16:29.49 | Ellipsis | oh noes, the drycode is contagious |
| 16:31.13 | AckisWork | ahahahahhahha muhahahahahah |
| 16:31.33 | AckisWork | it's going to be interesting the first time I run my branch in wow |
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| 16:32.45 | Tifi | is there an upper limit for the size of savedvars? |
| 16:33.58 | ag` | someone said they've tried to have strings that are more than a few megabytes with no problems |
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| 16:34.21 | Tifi | kk thx |
| 16:34.40 | [SW]Dodge | Tifi: due to a mistake i got a SV file with ~3gb |
| 16:34.49 | CrazyBenny | there is probably, as everytime I turn on AH I get "Your Auctioneer SavedVariables file is 1.418% Full" from auctioneer |
| 16:34.53 | Tifi | omg |
| 16:35.06 | [SW]Dodge | _G found a way into my sv |
| 16:35.14 | Tifi | rofl n1 xD |
| 16:35.18 | nappy- | is there an addon which rezises the minimap (bigger than squeenix's 200%) ? for farming? |
| 16:35.20 | [SW]Dodge | (i bet it would increas more if i didnt killed wow.exe) |
| 16:35.27 | Daemona | ag` i know for sure that the Ace framework will fail if the saved combat segments for Recount are too big ;) |
| 16:35.31 | [SW]Dodge | nappy-: try chincilla |
| 16:35.33 | Daemona | (~40-60mb) |
| 16:35.38 | nappy- | thanks |
| 16:35.42 | [SW]Dodge | chinchilla* |
| 16:35.59 | Larana | CrazyBenny: That's part of Auctioneer Classic, which once 3.0 is released will no longer be part of the Auc Adv Suite. |
| 16:37.20 | Kolie | 24 linker errors togo. |
| 16:40.04 | kenlyric | oh thank god! |
| 16:40.31 | kenlyric | it'd be nice one day to have an auctioneer zip which is just auctioneer and the parts it *needs* again. |
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| 16:41.25 | CrazyBenny | aye, theres so much stuff I've never used |
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| 17:14.56 | Zyndrome | soon enough, there will be a gamefix that removes the stupid stat-cap in SPORE |
| 17:15.38 | Zyndrome | no matter how much stuff you put on your monstrosity, you still get only a certain (low) number of attack, charm, whatever >:/ |
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| 17:17.28 | Zyndrome | I want to put shitload of parts that gives more jump on my creature, so I can be all like "BRB, GOING TO THE MOON" |
| 17:19.46 | Dashkal | hrm, I might have to get that game |
| 17:19.53 | Dashkal | haven't decided yet. So much hate for EA |
| 17:22.02 | kenlyric | what' |
| 17:22.04 | kenlyric | dumb |
| 17:22.24 | kenlyric | it's like saying I hate fox so I won't watch the X-files |
| 17:23.02 | Dashkal | kenlyric: actually, that's true and true :p I stay off that channel |
| 17:23.17 | kenlyric | lies |
| 17:23.27 | kenlyric | do you like star wars? |
| 17:23.29 | Dashkal | Point being I, as much as is reasonably possible, avoid giving money to companies I hate. |
| 17:23.56 | Dashkal | Reasonable being not cutting myself off from populate culture entirely |
| 17:24.04 | kenlyric | so |
| 17:24.05 | Dashkal | populate? |
| 17:24.06 | kenlyric | buy spore |
| 17:24.11 | Zyndrome | populate |
| 17:24.25 | kenlyric | bristol palin is populate culture |
| 17:24.30 | Dashkal | I swear something in my brain is miswired |
| 17:24.47 | kenlyric | besides, what's to hate about EA |
| 17:24.55 | kenlyric | sure, they tried to ruin every company they own |
| 17:24.57 | Dashkal | I probably will. I have a pretty intense dislike for Vivendi as well... |
| 17:24.58 | kenlyric | but they got better |
| 17:25.20 | Zyndrome | they turned me into a newt! |
| 17:25.50 | kenlyric | of more pressing concernare the number of developer and distributor videos in the front of games |
| 17:26.00 | Dashkal | though to be fair, TV is a terrible example for me. I watch Mythbusters. Bout it. |
| 17:26.02 | kenlyric | that you have to click or hit a key to skip every bloody time you want to play |
| 17:26.26 | Dashkal | I should make one of my g15 keys a turbo spacebar |
| 17:26.32 | Dashkal | just hold it down until the menu appears |
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| 17:26.40 | kenlyric | the simpson's hit and run had six |
| 17:26.52 | kenlyric | at least you can skip them now |
| 17:27.08 | Zyndrome | and NOW I get a "lol darkfall beta" email ... just like... a week late? :p |
| 17:28.05 | Dashkal | You couldn't skip them? Ouch. |
| 17:28.28 | kenlyric | I don't mean in that game |
| 17:28.33 | Primer | So, out of curiosity, I've been looking at the prices of accounts on www.buymmoaccounts.com |
| 17:28.34 | kenlyric | I just mean games in general |
| 17:28.42 | Primer | Do wow accounts really sell for this much? |
| 17:28.52 | Primer | Here's an example: http://www.buymmoaccounts.com/wow-account-for-sale/?i=12183 |
| 17:29.10 | Primer | Mostly T6 geared warlock, with another 70 in the same account, $1159 |
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| 17:29.17 | Primer | I mean, damn, that's a lot of cash |
| 17:29.34 | kenlyric | no |
| 17:30.02 | Dashkal | t6 at this stage of the game? I doubt it's worth anywhere near that. |
| 17:30.11 | Daemona | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5640237665&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
| 17:30.17 | Dashkal | Though I could see it pulling in that kind of cash at the start of BT |
| 17:31.25 | Primer | Daemona: how can they claim that everyone that simply visited the site now has a keylogger? |
| 17:31.36 | Daemona | no idea |
| 17:31.44 | Daemona | as i dont visit that site in general ;) |
| 17:31.59 | Dashkal | Primer: probably an internet exploder exploit |
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| 17:32.16 | Primer | Dashkal: 0 day, unpatched, and in-the-wild? |
| 17:32.28 | Dashkal | Primer: ->unnpatched<- |
| 17:32.54 | Dashkal | Plenty of people don't bother to update their IE |
| 17:32.59 | Primer | I suppose |
| 17:33.19 | Dashkal | keyloggers would be far far less common if people had to download and run an executable to get infected |
| 17:33.57 | Primer | heh, I always use firefox from my Linux box anyhow |
| 17:34.15 | Primer | even if I need to download an addon, since that Linux box is also my file server |
| 17:34.25 | Dashkal | I've seen linux/ff get infected anyway :p Whoever through to have firefox open executables with wine by default should be shot |
| 17:34.40 | Primer | uhhh |
| 17:34.44 | Primer | I've never ever seen that |
| 17:34.52 | Dashkal | Hit /. about three years back |
| 17:35.16 | Dashkal | MIght have been thunderbird. |
| 17:35.35 | Dashkal | The article was more focused on wine being mature enough to actually be susceptable to these things |
| 17:36.24 | Primer | but still, what can it really do? |
| 17:36.36 | Primer | once it runs, it's done...and it'll surely be run as a user |
| 17:36.46 | Primer | worst it could do is rm -rf ~ |
| 17:36.58 | Primer | which, of course, would still suck |
| 17:37.05 | Dashkal | worst it could do is far more, but highly unlikely |
| 17:38.03 | Dashkal | if you run wow under wine you're now susceptable to the same keyloggers windows users are hit with. But we're going offtrack here. These browser exploits are usually targetting at IE/Windows simpy because there's more victims that way |
| 17:38.43 | Dashkal | And they're less likely to notice until too late. |
| 17:40.03 | Primer | you need root to keylog on Linux |
| 17:40.38 | Primer | hrmm, well |
| 17:40.54 | Primer | not sure if the device file is owned to the console user |
| 17:40.58 | Primer | shouldn't be |
| 17:41.39 | Dashkal | Keylog wineserver |
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| 17:42.30 | Dashkal | ANd no, you don't need root. There are tools that do keylog X to help you get your fancy new keyboard layout working |
| 17:43.13 | Dashkal | But still, just not going to happen. Why would the black hats put in all the effort to target such a small percentage of users, especially given that these users are likely more able to defend against these attacks |
| 17:53.16 | Primer | ahh yes, one can run xev quite readily as the user that's running X |
| 17:53.21 | Primer | just need a connection to the X server |
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| 18:06.41 | Zyndrome | http://www.ravencrestrealm.com/roguebow.PNG ._. |
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| 18:12.35 | Dashkal | wtb warrior with TF, Sulfurious[sp?], both glaives, and the bow :p |
| 18:12.45 | Xinhuan | and bug mount? |
| 18:12.50 | Dashkal | oh of course :p |
| 18:19.31 | Dashkal | oh boy, this will not end well (Buffy MMO): http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/04/1749247 |
| 18:24.40 | nevcairiel | wtf o.O |
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| 18:27.30 | dodga | boobies? |
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| 18:34.47 | ckknight_ | http://www.pyzam.com/funnypictures/details/7729?cat=all&sort=newest |
| 18:36.16 | kenlyric | well, it's joss whedon |
| 18:36.20 | kenlyric | nothing ever ends well |
| 18:38.13 | Dashkal | ckknight_: that's ... disturbing |
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| 18:40.50 | AckisWork | ping Zhinjio |
| 18:41.54 | Ellipsis | is it bad that the only disturbing thing I can see about the picture is the sexism? |
| 18:42.14 | Ellipsis | not that it bothers/offends me, it's just pretty strong in that pic o.O |
| 18:42.32 | AckisWork | there's sexism? |
| 18:43.17 | Dashkal | Ellipsis: I'm not seeing it. Explain? |
| 18:43.17 | ckknight_ | I don't see the sexism, Ellipsis |
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| 18:43.26 | Ellipsis | well I know my christmas presents don't all come in pastel pink and blue |
| 18:43.33 | Ellipsis | and only the pink ones have bows on them? :P |
| 18:43.59 | Dashkal | About the only way to differentiate gender on a 'person' that's a rectangular prism. |
| 18:44.06 | Ellipsis | not really |
| 18:44.16 | Ellipsis | the "mother" already appears smaller and in a more feminine pose |
| 18:44.34 | Ellipsis | and why do you need to differentiate gender in the first place? maybe to establish the parents thing, but why the kids then? |
| 18:45.14 | Dashkal | No 'need' to do so, they simply decided to do so. Doesn't imply sexism, per se. Differentiating doesn't mean discriminating |
| 18:45.27 | Ellipsis | (the painting on the wall gets the parents/children point across with very different colors) |
| 18:45.49 | Ellipsis | the girl only gets to open girl presents and the boy opens boys |
| 18:47.10 | Dashkal | "only gets"? |
| 18:47.27 | Dashkal | You made that sound like she was getting something lesser because her present was wrapped by a female |
| 18:47.33 | Dashkal | s/by a/in a/ |
| 18:48.00 | Ellipsis | hers doesn't even appear to have a present in it |
| 18:48.01 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 18:48.11 | Ellipsis | maybe she just enjoys the raw human flesh instead |
| 18:48.15 | AckisWork | Ellipsis: make me a sammich |
| 18:48.16 | Ellipsis | while the boy gets a cool little truck! |
| 18:48.20 | Dashkal | *snickers* |
| 18:48.22 | Ellipsis | Ackis: make it yourself |
| 18:48.31 | AckisWork | good thing I'm AckisWork! |
| 18:48.42 | Ellipsis | you totally missed the "sudo" opening |
| 18:48.44 | Ellipsis | fail. |
| 18:48.48 | Dashkal | Can't argue there. Just saying that while I see the differentiation, I don't see discrimination. I see nothing to imply one gender is getting something _over_ the other. |
| 18:49.10 | Ellipsis | I don't know, that fire truck looks pretty darn cool |
| 18:49.30 | Ellipsis | I think the point would get across just as well with subtler (or no) differentiation |
| 18:49.49 | Dashkal | You may be right about that one. The differentiation isn't required by any means. |
| 18:50.05 | Dashkal | erm, actually I see a use |
| 18:50.38 | Dashkal | Invoking those stereotypes grounds the image much better with "Traditional Christmas". It's very easy to see the equivalent 'normal' scene as you look at that image. |
| 18:51.05 | Ellipsis | yeah, I know my mom wears a bow on her head and can't put her feet on the floor...and my dad ALWAYS smokes a pipe on christmas day |
| 18:51.08 | AckisWork | Ellipsis: sudo? |
| 18:51.22 | Ellipsis | AckisWork: double fail for missing the reference when it's pointed out to you! |
| 18:51.37 | Ellipsis | http://xkcd.com/149/ |
| 18:51.44 | Dashkal | Ellipsis: not quite what I meant. Just that invoking "Traditional Christmas" grounds it better than invoking "Real Christmas" |
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| 18:52.06 | AckisWork | I don't get it :( |
| 18:52.10 | Dashkal | Little Billy and little Sue opening their presents. |
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| 18:52.38 | Ellipsis | Dashkal, unless there's a specific image that is being referenced, I don't think it's much use |
| 18:52.47 | Nimbal | ping nevcairiel |
| 18:53.10 | Ellipsis | there's a christmas tree, it's snowing outside, there are candy canes in the "stockings" |
| 18:53.23 | Ellipsis | sounds like christmas to me |
| 18:53.31 | Dashkal | GIS "Christmas Morning" First page has multiple photos that fit that pattern |
| 18:54.03 | Ellipsis | the tree is a universal in all those |
| 18:54.12 | Ellipsis | (well, except the porn, but you probably are using safesearch) |
| 18:54.25 | Dashkal | The tree, and the family make it |
| 18:54.31 | Dashkal | heh, at work, so safesearch has to be on :p |
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| 18:55.08 | Ellipsis | actually most of these pictures focus more on the kids specifically than the family |
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| 18:55.37 | Ellipsis | two genderless grownups and two genderless kids doesn't represent family? they're boxes, I don't think they make babies the same way we do, there's no reason to even have a male and female :P |
| 18:56.07 | Dashkal | I didn't say that genderless wouldn't represent a family, just that adding the genders makes it _more_ clear than otherwise. |
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| 19:00.35 | Dashkal | yay splits |
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| 19:00.37 | Larana | Everyone is just so flexible. Who knew they could all do the splits so well. |
| 19:01.21 | Dashkal | didn't do it so well |
| 19:01.21 | Dashkal | ow... |
| 19:01.21 | Larana | lol |
| 19:01.21 | Ellipsis | has plenty of practice |
| 19:01.21 | Dashkal | Teach me your secrets :p |
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| 19:01.21 | Dashkal | Actually, I might be better off not knowing... |
| 19:01.48 | AckisWork | hoop earrings |
| 19:01.48 | AckisWork | that's my secret |
| 19:02.15 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 19:02.26 | Ellipsis | the trick is simply to miss the ground |
| 19:02.30 | Ellipsis | er, wait, wrong secrets |
| 19:02.31 | Dashkal | I so need to see a photo of that, AckisWork. Someone had better be taking photos come blizzcon :p |
| 19:02.51 | AckisWork | haha |
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| 19:03.16 | AckisWork | ps: 35 hours until I no longer live by myself |
| 19:03.47 | Primer | Getting married? |
| 19:03.53 | Ellipsis | his gf is moving in |
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| 19:03.59 | Primer | same thing |
| 19:04.00 | AckisWork | ^ |
| 19:04.06 | Ellipsis | i.e. his freedom ends, \o/ |
| 19:04.55 | AckisWork | lol |
| 19:05.07 | Dashkal | I'm so sorry, AckisWork |
| 19:05.19 | AckisWork | her mom asked me yesterday: two days of bliss, or two days until your girl comes? my response was: two days until bliss hahaha |
| 19:05.42 | AckisWork | the hard part is going to be writing mods =/ |
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| 19:06.05 | Dashkal | From hints you've dropped, walking may be the hard part... |
| 19:06.23 | AckisWork | lol |
| 19:08.16 | Ellipsis | (pics btw) |
| 19:08.53 | AckisWork | :P |
| 19:11.02 | NeoTron | so what makes me sad is getting to phase 2 m'uru.. and having 3 healers die reasonbly quickly from void zones |
| 19:11.17 | NeoTron | which of course inevitably leads to everyone else dying |
| 19:12.10 | Hjalte | Tekkub: Weren't you toying around with a rewrite of the cork buff addon at some point? |
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| 19:14.30 | Hjalte | Tekkub: Forget I asked, wowinterface search ftw. |
| 19:14.38 | Tekkub | :P |
| 19:17.19 | Pkekyo| | why won't people ever believe me when I say I haven't slept with a girl? Who am I, bloody Bill Clinton?! |
| 19:17.39 | Adirelle | Broker2FuBar + FuBar2Broker in the same time is lose |
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| 19:18.04 | Dashkal | Adirelle: oh that sounds so very nasty... |
| 19:18.33 | Adirelle | Dashkal: I found too, that's why I disabled Broker2FuBar before connecting :p |
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| 19:19.48 | Adirelle | first try at getting rid of fubar |
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| 19:20.46 | Dashkal | I miss fubar. I haven't found a displayer that quite lets me match how fubar did it. Fortress has way to much border space. |
| 19:27.30 | Hjalte | Tekkub: Let me get this right - Fursuit, a reminder to put me in a form? |
| 19:27.40 | Adirelle | until now, I used FuBar and Broker2FuBar to have the LDB object displayed in FuBar |
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| 19:29.02 | Adirelle | I'll test statblock |
| 19:29.04 | Adirelle | +core |
| 19:29.55 | Tekkub | Hjalte, yes, for druids that keep forgetting to go back to boomkin after droppig out to heal |
| 19:30.08 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Kolie] by ChanServ |
| 19:30.26 | Hjalte | Tekkub: Ah. I see the problem there. It's more unlikely forgetting to get back to catform etc :) |
| 19:30.58 | Tekkub | yes, turn it off if you don't want it |
| 19:31.24 | Hjalte | Tekkub: I did. It is intentional that there is no thorns reminder? |
| 19:33.45 | Hjalte | Does anyone know, what addon could make my quests look weird when copied with Shift-leftclick into the chat from the quest log? I can only think of Chatter at the moment. |
| 19:34.04 | Hjalte | I don't see it myself, but others tell me that the formatting is all wrong. |
| 19:34.06 | Tekkub | read the description :P |
| 19:34.39 | kappaccino | is there going to be a warace? |
| 19:34.54 | kappaccino | war-ace O_o |
| 19:34.58 | NeoTron | Dashkal: have you checked out ButtonBin? |
| 19:35.24 | Dashkal | NeoTron: I have not. I thought buttonbin was a launcher, not a displayer. Am I incorrect? |
| 19:35.43 | NeoTron | yes |
| 19:35.45 | Hjalte | Tekkub: You always have the right answer, don't you? :> |
| 19:36.02 | Tekkub | I get sick of repreating myself |
| 19:36.05 | Dashkal | NeoTron: is it 3.0 ready? |
| 19:36.05 | NeoTron | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw17018.jpg for example |
| 19:36.17 | NeoTron | yes |
| 19:36.22 | Dashkal | sweet, I'll poke at that tonight |
| 19:36.31 | NeoTron | i didn't make a 3.0 release so you'll want an external Ace3 at least |
| 19:36.54 | NeoTron | did they fix autoloading on beta yet? (optional deps) |
| 19:37.30 | AckisWork | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/9336520906-constructive-feedback-for-server-first-titles.html |
| 19:37.32 | NeoTron | Dashkal: it started as " a bunch of buttons" (not launcher only though but just no labels) and then quickly grow to where it is now |
| 19:37.40 | NeoTron | the name no longer fits what it is |
| 19:37.41 | Dashkal | No idea, actually. I run a very limited set of addons on beta. ItemRack, Fortress with a couple displayers, and chatter |
| 19:38.09 | NeoTron | well chatter is ace3 so I'd suspect you have a working ace3 around :P |
| 19:38.18 | Dashkal | I do. One of them has ace3 in it |
| 19:39.00 | Dashkal | Chatter, I think |
| 19:39.25 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 19:39.27 | Kolie | imagebin.ca/view/ODRi3R.html |
| 19:39.41 | CIA-51 | 03nevcairiel 07WotlK * r81360 10Bartender4/ (Bartender4.toc libs/LibDataBroker-1.1.lua): Bartender4: add misBartender4: add missing LDB |
| 19:39.52 | CIA-51 | 03nevcairiel * r81361 10Bartender4/Bartender4.toc: Bartender4: fix load order |
| 19:40.44 | Adirelle | WTB addon that makes blizzard interface frame moveable |
| 19:41.02 | Dashkal | Kolie: Suggest rewording to "This appears to be the first time the Curse Client has been run." |
| 19:41.06 | Hjalte | BetterBlizzOptions? |
| 19:41.11 | Hjalte | Adirelle |
| 19:41.18 | Adirelle | I guess that should be a 3-lines addon... |
| 19:41.26 | Adirelle | Hjalte: I'll take a look |
| 19:41.35 | Kolie | Dashkal: That would ruin my localization. |
| 19:42.21 | NeoTron | is there an x-perl wotlk brance in svn? |
| 19:42.36 | Dashkal | s/to/you have/ then? |
| 19:42.44 | Dashkal | Your phrasing is strange in that text |
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| 19:47.40 | Kolie | Lol its not strange, its not a sentence. |
| 19:48.01 | Kolie | Its amusingly translated for speakers of all broken languages. |
| 19:48.01 | thul | CHOCOLATE RAIN |
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| 19:52.12 | Polarina | :P |
| 19:52.41 | NeoTron | Kolie: OS X error count: 0? :) |
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| 19:56.13 | Kolie | Compile and linker errors: 0. |
| 19:56.22 | nevcairiel | functional: infinite |
| 19:56.24 | Kolie | One of the librarys im using is crashing every time I use it. |
| 19:56.38 | Kolie | it gets deep in the function calls of the lib and crashes. |
| 19:57.41 | Kolie | works fine under windows :) |
| 19:57.44 | Hjalte | Some addon, must be either Chatter, Lightheaded (Tour Guide?) is making the quest links from me in the chat look strange to others. |
| 19:58.09 | Hjalte | It's adding something like 0000xxxCLINK, people tell me. |
| 19:59.01 | ckknight | probably Chatter |
| 19:59.09 | Pneumatus | yeh, chatter sounds like a candidate for that |
| 19:59.24 | ckknight | it only turns it into a CLINK if you couldn't make a link otherwise |
| 19:59.55 | CIA-51 | 03ackis 07NewDB * r81362 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 19:59.55 | CIA-51 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 19:59.55 | CIA-51 | - Removed all references to wrath flags, this is only going to work on wrath. 3.0 is going to be "soon" |
| 19:59.56 | CIA-51 | - Removed beast training |
| 19:59.58 | CIA-51 | - Removed everything dealing with the crafting window |
| 20:00.00 | CIA-51 | - Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p) |
| 20:00.07 | Pneumatus | chatter only dicks around with links in non-standard channels as well i think |
| 20:00.46 | Hjalte | I'm posting in general and LFG channel, and I think the link looks weird in both. I should be able to post quest links in those channels, I believe. |
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| 20:01.52 | Hjalte | Ah. "Chat Link" module. It must be broken or something. |
| 20:02.18 | Ellipsis | it's not broken |
| 20:02.25 | Ellipsis | if you can't send links in the channel it will use the CLINK format |
| 20:02.52 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: But I -can- send quest links in the lfg channel, and it still converted it :) |
| 20:02.53 | Adirelle | Hjalte: thanks for BetterBlizzOptions |
| 20:03.09 | thul | hmm |
| 20:03.13 | Hjalte | Adirelle: My pleasure. |
| 20:04.12 | Dashkal | Ellipsis: Chatter was converting links for me in General (and it's still on /1) |
| 20:05.14 | Hjalte | Hmm. Okay, so maybe I can't send links in lfg channel. I was just sure I could. At least now, when I sent a link, it translated it into normal text. |
| 20:07.35 | Hjalte | I'm just rambling like usual. I thought it was default Blizzard behavior to send the quest link. It seems it is not. |
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| 20:13.15 | Adirelle | hrm... would anyone mind if I said that Broker2FuBar has FuBar2Broker as an loadmanager ? erm... nvm... that's very nasty |
| 20:14.04 | Ellipsis | o.O; |
| 20:14.16 | Ellipsis | why would you run both? |
| 20:15.36 | nevcairiel | yay |
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| 20:15.45 | nevcairiel | they removed first-80 achievements and titles |
| 20:15.50 | AckisWork | old news nev |
| 20:15.53 | NeoTron | ~seen Zeksie |
| 20:15.56 | purl | zeksie is currently on #wowuidev (1d 5h 39m 3s) #curseforge (1d 5h 39m 3s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 8h 45m 9s, last said: 'luc2: It reads the CTRA addon channel for rezzing info. it's just another way of representing the res info'. |
| 20:15.57 | nevcairiel | I'm raiding |
| 20:15.58 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 20:16.32 | AckisWork | notepad++, how easy is it to reformat a set of lines with regexp? ie: change the order of parameters around in function calls/ |
| 20:17.02 | Ellipsis | ctrl-f, go to the replace tab and make sure the regex option is checked |
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| 20:19.28 | Adirelle | Ellipsis: that would prevent Broker2FuBar from loading when FuBar2Broker is enabled, e.g. prevent the two running at the same time |
| 20:20.01 | Adirelle | but this is an nasty hack, the real solution is to check if FuBar2Broker is loaded in Broker2FuBar, so it could print an warning and disable itself |
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| 20:27.27 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: the real solution is for people not to be dumb and install both |
| 20:29.43 | Fisker- | Ellipsis' Ellipsis |
| 20:30.14 | AckisWork | I can't believe this actually compiles O_o |
| 20:30.15 | CIA-51 | 03ackis 07NewDB * r81363 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList/ (8 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 20:30.15 | CIA-51 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 20:30.15 | CIA-51 | - Created skeletons for new lookup table files |
| 20:30.15 | CIA-51 | - Changed order of lookup table functions so I actually will only need 1 and can |
| 20:30.15 | CIA-51 | reuse it. Will require an order change in the vendor database but that's a |
| 20:30.17 | CIA-51 | small issue as I need to convert all the vendor IDs to NPC IDs. Added error |
| 20:30.19 | CIA-51 | checking so I don't get screwed by a nil value. |
| 20:31.31 | Fisker- | Ellipsis' Ackis |
| 20:32.04 | AckisWork | woah |
| 20:32.10 | AckisWork | I feel dirty now |
| 20:33.27 | Larana | AckisWork How do you create a skeleton? |
| 20:34.22 | AckisWork | roll a deathknight and raise dead? :) |
| 20:35.08 | Larana | lol, okay, but in reference to ARL? |
| 20:35.21 | AckisWork | it's just a blank file with a template entry in it |
| 20:35.32 | Larana | Ah otay |
| 20:39.01 | SNiLD | ~seen lilsparky |
| 20:39.03 | purl | i haven't seen 'lilsparky', SNiLD |
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| 20:43.46 | thul | i want a mutilate/ambush/shadowstepbuild:P |
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| 20:45.40 | Fisker- | I want a holy/holy/resto/resto build (You heard me, 4 healing specs) |
| 20:46.06 | SNiLD | hey anyone know an addon like LilSparky's Workshop that would show the total price to make an item in the tradeskillwindow list? |
| 20:46.38 | SNiLD | FizzWidget's ReagentCost shows the costs only when you click the item not in the list :/ |
| 20:48.09 | Wraithan | Any easy way to switch between 2 configs for all of my addons on the same computer? |
| 20:48.31 | winkiller | not that I know o |
| 20:48.32 | winkiller | f |
| 20:48.37 | AckisWork | profiles |
| 20:48.38 | dodga | copy WTF folder :) |
| 20:48.40 | winkiller | and yes, it would be awesome |
| 20:49.20 | Wraithan | AckisWork: profiles don't work for all addons, and I don't know of a way to globally set the profile the addons that use them use |
| 20:49.38 | SNiLD | create two batch files that start the game with different WTF folders |
| 20:49.40 | AckisWork | there |
| 20:50.15 | AckisWork | there's no profile manager however I've found that it works for the different builds I use |
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| 20:50.32 | AckisWork | bartender, spellbinder, pitbull all get changed for shadow/holy for example |
| 20:50.43 | Wraithan | Since sometimes I am using dualview setup with Monitor + TV, and WoW is only running on the monitor, other times I am running span view Monitor + Monitor |
| 20:51.37 | winkiller | I thought more of: define "minimal set of addons to load on every char", "raiding set" and "rest" |
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| 20:51.48 | NivFreak | wasn't someone writing a master profile switcher? |
| 20:51.53 | Ellipsis | imo all it would take to make a perfect profile system is to have it automatically trigger on certain things...bg queues for your pvp setup, speccing into a specific talent for your spec setups, etc. |
| 20:51.57 | winkiller | so when I make a new char, I just tick "default" and have the 20 default addons :P |
| 20:52.18 | Wraithan | I think I am just going to do the batch file setup |
| 20:52.49 | winkiller | think that's best for your case |
| 20:53.07 | Ellipsis | I used to keep 3 copies of addons.txt - one for normal play, one for my AH chars, and one for my bankers |
| 20:53.34 | Wraithan | can't you just turn addons on and off on a per char basis, or was that before that? |
| 20:53.43 | Ellipsis | you can, that's what addons.txt does |
| 20:53.55 | Ellipsis | but that way I always had a backup, and could copy it over when I made a new char, etc. |
| 20:54.03 | winkiller | yeah, I just thought about writing a little tool for that |
| 20:54.19 | Ellipsis | it was kind of my "master copy" of the file so that I didn't have to worry about accidental changes while testing stuff, etc. |
| 20:54.22 | winkiller | does /console reloadui also take addons.txt into account? |
| 20:54.30 | Ellipsis | er...what? |
| 20:54.59 | winkiller | because my wow takes freakin ages to reload and restart. so creating chat -> reload/restart is annoying |
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| 20:55.05 | winkiller | or even.. editing something |
| 20:55.34 | Ellipsis | I'm not sure what you're asking exactly |
| 20:55.45 | Fisker- | I believe WoW atleast tries to index all files in the WoW folder |
| 20:55.51 | winkiller | ofc it does |
| 20:56.01 | winkiller | if you change your addon.txt and do a /reloadui - are the now OFF addons really off? |
| 20:56.09 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 20:56.10 | Ellipsis | I doubt it |
| 20:56.27 | NivFreak | winkiller: just use ACP |
| 20:56.46 | Ellipsis | yes, why use a perfectly good text file when you can download an entire addon to accomplish the same thing |
| 20:56.46 | NivFreak | you can setup addon profiles |
| 20:56.48 | NivFreak | load them in game |
| 20:56.55 | NivFreak | and reloadui to pick up the enable/disables |
| 20:56.55 | winkiller | wtf, why did I miss that? |
| 20:57.00 | winkiller | I tried it |
| 20:57.14 | winkiller | must've been some "no time, hurryhurry" moment |
| 20:57.16 | winkiller | thanks a lot |
| 20:57.18 | NivFreak | np |
| 20:57.21 | winkiller | I'm gonna try this |
| 20:57.33 | winkiller | 229 folders in AddOns :P |
| 20:57.38 | NivFreak | Ellipsis: ACP doe snice things like handle dependancy chains |
| 20:57.38 | winkiller | no wonder it takes a while to load |
| 20:57.44 | NivFreak | winkiller: I have like 450 |
| 20:57.52 | winkiller | and probably a faster machine :P |
| 20:57.59 | winkiller | or HDD |
| 20:58.02 | winkiller | it's annoying |
| 20:58.09 | winkiller | my 2nd wow folder starts in 20sec |
| 20:58.11 | NivFreak | it takes a good amount of time to reload ;P |
| 20:58.12 | winkiller | without addons |
| 20:59.06 | NivFreak | I have a 17" MBP that I play on mostly |
| 20:59.06 | NivFreak | 7200rpm drive |
| 20:59.07 | Ellipsis | NivFreak: so does WoW |
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| 20:59.07 | CIA-51 | 03odlaw * r81364 10PassLoot/ (9 files): PassLoot: Attempt to add LibSink stuff. |
| 20:59.07 | NivFreak | Ellipsis: sort of ;) |
| 20:59.07 | Ellipsis | if you disable addon A and addon B requires addon A, addon B won't load |
| 20:59.07 | Ellipsis | it's like magic! |
| 20:59.07 | NivFreak | but I go the other route |
| 20:59.08 | NivFreak | I disable everything |
| 20:59.09 | NivFreak | enable what I want |
| 20:59.14 | NivFreak | and it grabs the libs it needs |
| 20:59.20 | Ellipsis | um...that's not ACP |
| 20:59.22 | NivFreak | and adds them to the profile |
| 20:59.23 | Ellipsis | that's how libs are designed |
| 20:59.39 | NivFreak | doing it from the wow addons screen doesn't even get them :P |
| 20:59.49 | Ellipsis | it does except for a few |
| 20:59.58 | NivFreak | those few are a problem :P |
| 21:00.00 | Ellipsis | acelibrary and rock will enable a requested lib automatically |
| 21:00.01 | NivFreak | anyway, yes |
| 21:00.03 | Wraithan | hmm could make a small app that creates a file in the wtf folder to tell which was the last run setup (dual or single monitor) and depending on that copy the contents of the current wtf to the appropriate backup folder and copy the wanted backup folder to the wtf, so it updates my backup folders too |
| 21:00.04 | NivFreak | he can edit the text file |
| 21:00.06 | NivFreak | keep 10 copies |
| 21:00.10 | NivFreak | and change it |
| 21:00.14 | NivFreak | or he can use a very simple addon |
| 21:00.17 | NivFreak | that let's him check boxes |
| 21:00.21 | NivFreak | and store sets |
| 21:00.36 | Ellipsis | /rolleyes |
| 21:00.40 | Fisker- | destroys |
| 21:00.48 | NivFreak | I swear someone in here was writing an addon tha twould switch profiles for all addons |
| 21:00.51 | Ellipsis | I prefer the text files, since, you know, they're already tehre |
| 21:00.52 | NivFreak | that would even |
| 21:01.06 | NivFreak | Ellipsis: and choices are a good thing, you use what works for you |
| 21:01.10 | Ellipsis | but whatever, I don't care if the rest of the world installs tons of crap to get functionality that already exists...not my system |
| 21:01.30 | Ellipsis | (there's also the fact that I don't use any addons written by sylvanaar) |
| 21:01.47 | Vulcanus | whats wrong with sylv? XD |
| 21:02.12 | Ellipsis | nothing's wrong with him, I just disagree with his design philosophy |
| 21:02.27 | Ellipsis | I avoid his addons because there are usually better solutions to the problem for me |
| 21:02.39 | Vulcanus | what philosophy is that then? Dunno if it's been said, I just entered this thred lul |
| 21:03.02 | Ellipsis | he has a very "why should the user have to worry about anything" approach |
| 21:03.26 | Ellipsis | he writes code which IMO is rather overcomplicated in order to prevent the user from needing a clue |
| 21:04.09 | SNiLD | or glue? |
| 21:04.13 | Ellipsis | since I usually either have a clue or am willing to go find one, it doesn't suit my needs well |
| 21:04.33 | Vulcanus | well depending on the addon, it can imo be a good idea to make it as user-friendly as possible. But then again, addons like say eePanels or kgPanels wouldn't suit well with such an approach |
| 21:05.34 | Ellipsis | indeed |
| 21:05.53 | Ellipsis | there's also the "kitchen sink" problem his addons seem to suffer from |
| 21:06.00 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.10 | Polarina | sry |
| 21:06.10 | Vulcanus | you're gonna have to go into details on that one XD |
| 21:06.11 | Ellipsis | he figures code is cheap, why not add a little extra if it might be useful to someone somewhere |
| 21:06.21 | Vulcanus | oic |
| 21:06.21 | Ellipsis | Vulcanus: ever looked at Prat's modules? :P |
| 21:06.36 | Vulcanus | I stopped using prat after I realised Chatter exists |
| 21:06.46 | Ellipsis | here's an example |
| 21:06.48 | Vulcanus | loads WAU |
| 21:06.55 | kenlyric | that sounds like the design philosophy of pitbull |
| 21:07.00 | Ellipsis | you know when you hide the scroll buttons, you get that neat little "scroll to bottom" button when your chat frame is scrolled up? |
| 21:07.17 | Vulcanus | ye |
| 21:07.18 | kenlyric | yes |
| 21:07.19 | Vulcanus | I like that |
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| 21:07.39 | Ellipsis | did you know that the code for that button includes geometric calculations to determine whether the button is overlapping whatever text happens to be in the frame? |
| 21:07.56 | Ellipsis | I see that as overkill |
| 21:07.56 | Vulcanus | what the fuck XD |
| 21:07.59 | kenlyric | amg hiding text! |
| 21:08.00 | Ellipsis | some might disagree |
| 21:08.15 | Vulcanus | if it hides text, why not just scroll further up, lol |
| 21:08.22 | SNiLD | well damnit, if i'm missing two letters of the text, how can i know what it means! |
| 21:08.35 | Xinhuan | do you also know Prat core uses :RegisterAllEvents(), processes them all, then calls its submodules one by one for the events its submodules have registered for? |
| 21:09.10 | Xinhuan | yes, prat processes ALL events, all 10000000 of them, in combat, out of combat, at your mailbox, in the AH, in your dreams |
| 21:09.11 | Ellipsis | in the chat code I use, I duplicated the functionality of that button - because I liked it - but in a more efficient, cleaner way |
| 21:09.11 | Vulcanus | See now ellipsis was talking the kind of nerd that I can understand, and then xinhuan had to prance in and start talking phd in programming-level shit |
| 21:09.12 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 21:09.24 | Xinhuan | i believe you can code addons Vulcanus :) |
| 21:09.33 | Xinhuan | so you should be able to understand what i just said |
| 21:09.56 | Vulcanus | if I read it a few more times Im sure I can wrap my head around it ;p |
| 21:10.17 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan == overkill |
| 21:10.29 | Stanzilla | he puts fucking books in his addons and calls them FAQ |
| 21:10.35 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 21:10.39 | Ellipsis | your mom is overkill |
| 21:10.43 | Stanzilla | no u |
| 21:10.45 | Xinhuan | they are merely text strings ;p |
| 21:10.46 | Vulcanus | u |
| 21:10.55 | Ellipsis | also I like long...documentation |
| 21:10.58 | Stanzilla | 2 A4 sites! |
| 21:11.12 | Xinhuan | seen my Routes ingame documentation? ;p |
| 21:11.20 | Xinhuan | in 7 languages |
| 21:11.21 | Ellipsis | can't say I've ever used one of your addons, actually |
| 21:11.29 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: I translated it thx :P |
| 21:11.30 | Gagorian | Why the pause between long and documentation |
| 21:11.42 | Gagorian | What are you trying to imply?! |
| 21:11.44 | Gagorian | HMMM? |
| 21:11.47 | Vulcanus | Im too scared to look at the routes code, the algorithm used for determining the actual routes would probably melt my brain |
| 21:11.53 | Ellipsis | merely that I like big docs. |
| 21:12.03 | AckisWork | s/o/i/ ? |
| 21:12.17 | Stanzilla | Vulcanus: now figure how fun it was to translate the way it works into another language :P |
| 21:12.27 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 21:12.28 | Xinhuan | actually Vulcanus, the algorithm is only about 60 lines long, and documented thoroughly |
| 21:12.43 | Xinhuan | so with the comments its more like 100 lines long |
| 21:12.44 | Vulcanus | great now you made me want to go look |
| 21:13.04 | Ellipsis | I kinda like the concept of routes, though I'd probably rather generate the route out of game and import a saved one into the addon :P |
| 21:13.09 | Vulcanus | if you don't hear back from me in 10 mins, pleez attend my funeral |
| 21:13.10 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 21:13.27 | Xinhuan | Ellipsis, the code to generate the route is barely 3kb of ram o_O |
| 21:13.32 | Ellipsis | that's not the issue |
| 21:13.40 | Ellipsis | I can generate the route faster with WoW not running |
| 21:13.42 | Xinhuan | it is the actual route itself when stored that takes the ram lol |
| 21:13.49 | nevcairiel | oh wow how great is that, now some GM deleted my ticket about my stuck character, but i still wasnt unstuck |
| 21:13.54 | Ellipsis | my computer is "special", remember :P |
| 21:14.03 | Ellipsis | it likes to do one thing at a time |
| 21:14.17 | Ellipsis | ~comfort nevcairiel |
| 21:14.18 | purl | There, there, nevcairiel. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 21:14.18 | Xinhuan | ok i might have exeaggerated it a bit |
| 21:14.18 | Gagorian | Clearly a man computer |
| 21:14.28 | Xinhuan | the text is 260 lines with about 200 lines of code |
| 21:14.33 | Vulcanus | get ckk or somebody to buy you a new comp then elli :p |
| 21:14.41 | Ellipsis | I am building my new one right now |
| 21:14.45 | Ellipsis | it just takes time :P |
| 21:14.57 | Vulcanus | Im sure if you post your pic on the forum youll have plenty of volunteers to donate stuff |
| 21:14.57 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 21:15.00 | Xinhuan | it was inflated by 50 lines or so due to the addition of taboo regions lol |
| 21:15.01 | Ellipsis | rofl |
| 21:15.03 | AckisWork | lol |
| 21:15.12 | Ellipsis | what makes you think I'd take advantage of people like that? |
| 21:15.18 | Vulcanus | You're a woman. |
| 21:15.22 | Ellipsis | oh snap :x |
| 21:15.40 | Ellipsis | I'm not *that* kind of woman |
| 21:15.57 | Ellipsis | I only accept food and shelter as a result of my body, never computer parts! |
| 21:16.16 | nevcairiel | you should change that policy |
| 21:16.18 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 21:16.18 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 21:16.21 | Ellipsis | (well...except this mouse...and this keyboard...and the headset....ok, fine, but only peripherals!) |
| 21:16.27 | Vulcanus | There's two kind of women: Women who take advantage of men, and women who have not yet realised (or are too ugly) that they can take advantage of men. |
| 21:16.34 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 21:17.23 | Xinhuan | so |
| 21:17.40 | Vulcanus | yeah |
| 21:17.40 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 21:18.08 | Xinhuan | this AV is taking ages to lose |
| 21:18.41 | Xinhuan | so i get to chat more |
| 21:19.02 | Vulcanus | btw: I see what you did there Xin, with your fancy ass math_abs() and delta x and delta y and so on and so forth. But what you should do is make it able to detect mountains and make the line take this into account. gogo |
| 21:19.03 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 21:19.22 | Xinhuan | it doesn't detect them |
| 21:19.27 | Xinhuan | but you can specify them ;p |
| 21:19.44 | Vulcanus | ye as if I can be arsed to define 500 million taboos |
| 21:19.44 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 21:20.01 | AckisWork | table.sort(t, func) where func takes two indexes that it's comparing... can I add a third parameter to the function? |
| 21:20.09 | Xinhuan | no |
| 21:20.22 | Xinhuan | it doesn't send in a 3rd |
| 21:20.28 | Xinhuan | you can just use an upvalue as the 3rd |
| 21:20.36 | Vulcanus | and here I was thinking you let luac -p answer your "will it blend" questions |
| 21:20.59 | AckisWork | it'd probably compile but not do what I want :P |
| 21:21.02 | Xinhuan | so declare a local upvalue, and have the calling function change that value before calling table.sort |
| 21:21.03 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 21:21.11 | Xinhuan | and your sort function will access it |
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| 21:21.34 | Vulcanus | "upvalue" is not a term Ive heard outside lua. Explain plz. |
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| 21:21.40 | Xinhuan | just a round about way to get a 3rd arg into it ;p |
| 21:21.48 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: that's how I have it right now kind of :P |
| 21:22.16 | Xinhuan | an upvalue is a variable that a function has access to, but that variable wasn't declared in the function itself, but isn't a global either |
| 21:22.32 | AckisWork | it's in a do/end scope correct? |
| 21:22.38 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 21:22.40 | Xinhuan | or file scope |
| 21:22.41 | CIA-51 | 03pericles * r81365 10InventoryOnPar/InventoryOnPar.lua: |
| 21:22.41 | CIA-51 | InventoryOnPar: |
| 21:22.41 | CIA-51 | - |
| 21:22.41 | CIA-51 | v10.04 - Changed transition levels to give players a level or two to get kit before new formulae kicks in |
| 21:22.45 | Vulcanus | who invents this shit XD |
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| 21:23.14 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: one of my goals with the rewrite is to get rid of global scope variables |
| 21:23.16 | Ellipsis | brazil, apparently? |
| 21:23.24 | Vulcanus | oh god |
| 21:23.26 | Vulcanus | BRs |
| 21:23.35 | Vulcanus | has GM'd a Lineage II private server |
| 21:23.36 | Vulcanus | :( |
| 21:23.47 | Ellipsis | I'm sorry? :P |
| 21:24.18 | Xinhuan | i've pickpocketed 31g from AV so far today |
| 21:24.23 | Xinhuan | in the last 4 hours |
| 21:24.26 | AckisWork | lol |
| 21:24.43 | Xinhuan | 53g in total in the last 24 hours |
| 21:25.00 | Vulcanus | "i am has bun" <-- actual quote from a BR that somehow managed to get into an English speaking L2 server |
| 21:25.21 | AckisWork | my old server gurubashi was infested with BRs |
| 21:25.22 | Xinhuan | so anyway Vulcanus, if you are curious about the algorithm Routes uses, its explained at the top of TSP.lua in english |
| 21:25.34 | AckisWork | first BR guild to kill Illidan I think |
| 21:26.29 | Ellipsis | english is overrated |
| 21:27.12 | Xinhuan | BR is the abbreviation for my server |
| 21:27.15 | Xinhuan | Blackrock |
| 21:27.36 | AckisWork | Ellipsis: if all they did was have trouble with english it wouldn't be an issue |
| 21:27.50 | Ellipsis | I know |
| 21:27.54 | Xinhuan | wonder if diao is home |
| 21:28.01 | Kemayo | Adirelle: Give Broker2FuBar an OptDep on FuBar2Broker, and disable if F2B is loaded OnInitialize. |
| 21:28.07 | Ellipsis | had a BR "friend" on another IRC network |
| 21:28.38 | CIA-51 | 03ackis 07NewDB * r81366 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.lua CHANGELOG.txt): |
| 21:28.38 | CIA-51 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 21:28.38 | CIA-51 | - And God said let there be sorting, and there was dry-coded sorting. |
| 21:28.38 | CIA-51 | - Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p) |
| 21:28.54 | Adirelle | Kemayo: ok |
| 21:29.22 | SNiLD | Vulcanus: how can you put your "say" bar above the text area with Chatter? |
| 21:29.28 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: see I'm using a branch! :P |
| 21:29.35 | Xinhuan | whoa |
| 21:29.44 | Stanzilla | gz |
| 21:29.53 | Xinhuan | why do you bother typing in the "dry coded" stuff then |
| 21:30.06 | AckisWork | too lazy to change my commit file |
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| 21:33.34 | Vulcanus | AckisWork: if you meant actual Brazillians then you might find some of the L2 PvP videos funny. Made by a guild (clan) called La Migra, they are the immigration police. They talk to people, and if they fail to get a response or get jibberish/Engrish in response, they PK the person and say "Deported" XD |
| 21:34.04 | Vulcanus | SNiLD: fairly certain theres an option for it, I have it on mine |
| 21:34.07 | AckisWork | heh |
| 21:34.25 | SNiLD | Vulcanus: couldn't find one from the settings |
| 21:34.53 | Vulcanus | hrm, Ill check |
| 21:34.59 | SNiLD | thanks |
| 21:35.46 | Kemayo | Adirelle: Feel free to switch its author to you as well, or something. I think you've put far more work into it than I have at this point. :) |
| 21:36.20 | Adirelle | Kemayo: I won't, so you'll get the user feature requests and bug reports xD |
| 21:36.42 | Kemayo | Well, so long as it's not alturism, I can stand it. :P |
| 21:37.49 | Xinhuan | ~dict alturism |
| 21:37.50 | Vulcanus | right, I can't find it either. but mine is at the top, how did that happen XD |
| 21:38.19 | SNiLD | Vulcanus: dunno but i have a "clean" install now and it definately doesn't go up with Chatter :/ |
| 21:38.26 | Vulcanus | ~dict altruism |
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| 21:39.25 | Adirelle | I'm now trying to switch from fubar to fortress |
| 21:39.32 | Vulcanus | AHA |
| 21:39.52 | Adirelle | so I think I won't maintain FuBar2Broker really long |
| 21:39.58 | Vulcanus | SNiLD: Edit Box Polish module -> Attach to... "top" |
| 21:40.08 | Adirelle | that said, it seems to works pretty well now |
| 21:40.11 | SNiLD | oh! |
| 21:40.13 | SNiLD | thanks |
| 21:40.22 | Vulcanus | np :) |
| 21:40.38 | Wraithan | Adirelle: fortress? |
| 21:41.00 | Wraithan | info bar mod? |
| 21:41.01 | Kemayo | Vulcanus: Spelling is tricky, okay! :P |
| 21:41.17 | Vulcanus | yea I just guessed myself, I had no idea what the word meant |
| 21:41.24 | Xinhuan | more like info block mod ;p |
| 21:41.28 | Vulcanus | just thought I might have heard it as truism |
| 21:41.29 | Adirelle | Wraithan: fortress ! http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10401-Fortress.html |
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| 21:42.35 | Vulcanus | somebody want to explain what all this "databroker" thing is? Since people are going apeshit over it to the point of nev making BT4 error about it, I mean :p |
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| 21:43.14 | Dashkal | LibDataBroker is an intermediary that allows mods that provide data to communicate with mods that display it, without knowing about each other |
| 21:43.18 | Xinhuan | traditionally, you have an addon collecting data from wow, and then displaying it - all in the same addon |
| 21:43.34 | Adirelle | purl, what is ldb ? |
| 21:43.34 | purl | i guess ldb is a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
| 21:43.35 | Xinhuan | LDB is a "new idea" where an addon supplies data to LDB |
| 21:43.43 | Xinhuan | and a second addon takes that data from LDB and displays it |
| 21:43.59 | Wraithan | Ah nice |
| 21:44.02 | Vulcanus | right, so it's basically "I'm gathering this for my own use, if anybody else wants it here it is"? |
| 21:44.04 | Ellipsis | what's all this bt4 erroring about? |
| 21:44.05 | Xinhuan | so while the supplying data addon can remain the same, the user could choose his favourite display addon |
| 21:44.13 | Xinhuan | such as fubar, or statblocks or fortress |
| 21:44.55 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Xinhuan |
| 21:44.55 | purl | raises middle finger to Xinhuan |
| 21:45.13 | Vulcanus | BT4 includes a "launcher plugin" for LDB now and its causing a "cannot find library instance of LDB" |
| 21:45.15 | Adirelle | ldb also allows the creation of launchers, e.g. dataobject who primary goal is to run some action |
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| 21:45.26 | Vulcanus | mod works fine so I haven't bitched about it in any extensive manner |
| 21:45.53 | Josh_Borke | Vulcanus: BT4 author (cough nevcairiel cough) is just terrible |
| 21:46.02 | Vulcanus | ye I know |
| 21:46.26 | Vulcanus | but I guess everybody have to l2c some day XD |
| 21:46.26 | Funkeh` | It took me a month to get him to add my pastey |
| 21:46.31 | Funkeh` | expect another month to add the libs |
| 21:46.38 | Adirelle | ^^ |
| 21:46.41 | Xinhuan | ^_^ |
| 21:46.49 | Josh_Borke | what line is it? i'll ninja edit |
| 21:47.00 | Vulcanus | I cba to load wow again XD |
| 21:47.04 | Vulcanus | Ill try to find it in the code |
| 21:47.09 | Adirelle | Josh_Borke: nev moved bt4 to github |
| 21:47.22 | Josh_Borke | that bastard |
| 21:47.27 | Vulcanus | guessing 115 in Bartender4.lua |
| 21:47.46 | Josh_Borke | i can't fix github |
| 21:48.26 | Vulcanus | I wish the new wowaceforge would let people use whatever version control software they wished to edit somebody else's repo, no matter what it was stored in |
| 21:48.39 | Vulcanus | impossible, sure, but it would save issues like this |
| 21:48.51 | NeoTron | Adirelle: and ofc you should evaluate ButtonBin ! |
| 21:49.31 | Adirelle | NeoTron: I tested ButtonBin, Fortress and StatBlockCore |
| 21:50.05 | NeoTron | if you didn't like BB I'd like to know why. :P (ofc you might just want the individual block mechanic which is fair and which I don't do since, well, fortress and SBC does that) |
| 21:50.47 | Vulcanus | all this LDB stuff sounds redundant imo :p |
| 21:50.59 | Adirelle | NeoTron : I tested the SVN version |
| 21:51.18 | Adirelle | but I see it is the same as the one on wowi |
| 21:51.20 | NeoTron | Adirelle: it is |
| 21:51.44 | Wraithan | wtf holds all the config information right? including things like resolution right? |
| 21:51.48 | Adirelle | take no offence, but it is pretty buggy |
| 21:51.50 | Vulcanus | ye |
| 21:52.05 | NeoTron | Adirelle: ... no? I use it all the time and I don't really notice any outright bugs. such as what? |
| 21:52.27 | NeoTron | might be that it bugs with some specific plugins perhaps |
| 21:52.59 | Adirelle | dunno, sometimes the bars doesn't stick to its overlay (or conversely) |
| 21:53.14 | NeoTron | do you mean the "green movement" frame? |
| 21:53.24 | Adirelle | yes |
| 21:53.26 | NeoTron | because I know that sometimes get mixed up when you have move on and change sizes |
| 21:53.31 | NeoTron | hardly a critical issue though |
| 21:53.48 | NeoTron | it's a bug but just don't resize stuff while moving |
| 21:53.49 | Adirelle | no, there weren't critical bugs |
| 21:54.02 | Adirelle | at worst it was fixed by a reloadui |
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| 21:54.32 | Adirelle | I had some errors too (but I'm sorry, I didn't keep them) |
| 21:54.35 | NeoTron | not required either. just lock the position (click on the green) |
| 21:54.47 | NeoTron | every time you start moving it will redo positioning |
| 21:55.05 | Wraithan | This is where known issue files/documention comes in :D |
| 21:55.08 | Fisker- | set sail for fail NeoTron |
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| 21:55.40 | NeoTron | Fisker-: sorry you're already taking up the space |
| 21:56.04 | Wraithan | There is enough room on the failboat for both of you |
| 21:56.07 | Adirelle | beside bug and errors, I was finally not comfortable with it |
| 21:56.09 | Wraithan | :D |
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| 21:56.48 | NeoTron | I'm glad you reported the bugs and errors so I could fix them though. helpful! (sarcasm, yes) |
| 21:57.09 | Adirelle | wait, I didn't have uninstalled though :p |
| 21:57.13 | NeoTron | I don't think I ever get any error errors though |
| 21:57.31 | NeoTron | that said, the point I mainly am interested is in the third one |
| 21:57.48 | NeoTron | ie. why you don't like it besides the "bug and errors" |
| 21:58.55 | Adirelle | so I enabled it again |
| 21:58.59 | Josh_Borke | Vulcanus: what do you mean by redundant? in that it is reproducing functionality already present? |
| 21:59.24 | Fisker- | not only the space NeoTron but space itself! |
| 21:59.31 | Adirelle | first, there is no per-object configuration, to disablie label or text |
| 21:59.47 | NeoTron | TODO: "Per data-block configuration such as label specifics etc." |
| 22:00.03 | NeoTron | next? :P |
| 22:00.05 | Adirelle | objects are more or less inconsitents with those, not speaking of fooled FuBar plugins |
| 22:00.40 | NeoTron | that said, what I do is to have two bars with labels, one without all put at the top making it look like one bar |
| 22:00.58 | NeoTron | mainly what Im missing on a per-block setting is the ability to remove useless icons |
| 22:01.20 | NeoTron | but yes, it's a planned feature |
| 22:01.37 | ckknight | hey all, how's everyone doing? |
| 22:01.57 | NeoTron | if that's the only 'big' thing I'm in good shape ;-) |
| 22:02.07 | Ellipsis | yawns |
| 22:02.11 | Ellipsis | boring day is boring :( |
| 22:02.18 | Wraithan | bored, so I am writing a nice application to swap my wtf folder out depending on my current resolution |
| 22:02.48 | Adirelle | ok, so I confirm, resizing + moving in the same time leads to "wild" green overlay |
| 22:03.10 | Adirelle | what's annoying because you tend to do both at the same time when trying to find the good layout |
| 22:03.35 | ckknight | so how many people here would be willing to sacrifice some *nix CPU cycles to help the wowace transition? |
| 22:03.37 | NeoTron | I am aware of that issues yes |
| 22:03.48 | Wraithan | <~ can |
| 22:04.04 | AckisWork | pokes Ellipsis |
| 22:04.05 | Wraithan | got a 2.8GHz comp that just sits here as my chat box |
| 22:04.23 | Adirelle | http://ace.pastey.net/95436 |
| 22:04.49 | ckknight | k, well, we're working on a way to distribute the repo splitup situation (and by we, I mean charon) |
| 22:05.05 | Wraithan | ok |
| 22:05.08 | ckknight | this won't be for a little while, but the more people we get doing it, the less downtime we'll have |
| 22:05.21 | Wraithan | let me know what software I will need and I can download and set it up |
| 22:05.24 | Adirelle | NeoTron: this is happening on a empty bin |
| 22:05.52 | NeoTron | Adirelle: that is an utterly bizarre error |
| 22:06.06 | NeoTron | I'll check it out when I can, not sure what would cause it to happen |
| 22:06.08 | Wraithan | pacman -Sy archistehwin! |
| 22:06.17 | Adirelle | I selected the bin #2 by error and clicked on "show labels" |
| 22:06.35 | ckknight | Wraithan: make, svn, rsync, ssh |
| 22:06.36 | ckknight | likely |
| 22:06.37 | Adirelle | there is nothing in that bin, it shouldn't be displayed too |
| 22:06.45 | NeoTron | bin:GetTop() * bin:GetEffectiveScale() - UIParent:GetHeight()*UIParent:GetEffectiveScale() |
| 22:06.47 | Wraithan | have all of them |
| 22:06.53 | erikh | ckknight: distributing the computation? :) |
| 22:06.59 | ckknight | erikh: that's the idea |
| 22:07.01 | NeoTron | under what circumstance are any of those nil? |
| 22:07.03 | erikh | a good one |
| 22:07.15 | Adirelle | dunno |
| 22:07.18 | ckknight | we don't have enough juice here to distribute it in a reasonable timeframe |
| 22:07.21 | erikh | are you doing it with dumpfilter or taking a less direct route? |
| 22:07.28 | ckknight | erikh: we already have it split up |
| 22:07.31 | erikh | oh |
| 22:07.34 | ckknight | putting it back together is the issue |
| 22:07.37 | NeoTron | Adirelle: is the bin hidden? |
| 22:07.38 | erikh | i see. |
| 22:07.41 | ckknight | well, making repos from the dumps |
| 22:07.45 | Adirelle | NeoTron: yes |
| 22:07.53 | NeoTron | ok I'll check it out |
| 22:08.14 | ckknight | so basically, you rsync a dumpfile to your box, make a repo, tar.gz it, rsync it back, server un-tar.gz's it, checks to see if it's good, and marks it as done |
| 22:08.16 | Wraithan | ckknight: will y'all have a make file to do it, or will it take active particpation? |
| 22:08.18 | ckknight | repeat until finished |
| 22:08.25 | ckknight | Wraithan: makefile ftw |
| 22:09.01 | ckknight | and probably a shell script to run to handle the rsyncing and all |
| 22:09.21 | AckisWork | ckknight: only *nix? nothing for windows? |
| 22:09.34 | Wraithan | easier to script all that in *nix |
| 22:09.47 | ckknight | windows isn't posix-compliant, at least for all intents and purposes |
| 22:10.01 | Xinhuan | that rules me out ;p |
| 22:10.05 | Josh_Borke | that statement is terrible ckknight |
| 22:10.16 | ckknight | probably. |
| 22:10.18 | Wraithan | lots more config nessisary for windows to do stuff like this |
| 22:10.34 | ckknight | we're not dealing with sensitive data or anything, so nothing's going to be encrypted or anything like that |
| 22:10.48 | Adirelle | NeoTron: well, beside those little quirks, I think I just prefer the individual block mechanism |
| 22:10.49 | ckknight | just um, don't be evil, k? |
| 22:10.57 | Wraithan | er |
| 22:10.59 | Wraithan | no promises? |
| 22:11.07 | Wraithan | :D |
| 22:11.07 | Xinhuan | that's a lot of trust lol |
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| 22:11.30 | bentglasstube | wassup bitches this is bentglasstube |
| 22:11.30 | Wraithan | how many hours are you thinking? |
| 22:11.39 | ckknight | Wraithan: depends on the number of users |
| 22:11.44 | ckknight | but possibly up to a day |
| 22:11.50 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 22:11.58 | ckknight | maybe more, hard to gauge right now |
| 22:12.12 | NeoTron | Adirelle: I appreciate the reports. ofc the lacking features will be fixed but I'll make sure to fix the moving bug and that error |
| 22:12.20 | Wraithan | ckknight: I can bring up my gaming box in linux also, and have my 3.4GHz C2D working towards it too |
| 22:12.24 | Xinhuan | glass doesn't bend unless its exposed to extreme heat, bentglasstube :) |
| 22:12.38 | ckknight | Wraithan: alright. |
| 22:12.40 | bentglasstube | Xinhuan: this is true! |
| 22:12.45 | Wraithan | but I can't miss raids |
| 22:12.51 | Wraithan | heh |
| 22:13.23 | ckknight | hehe |
| 22:13.30 | ckknight | the idea is that you'd be able to start and stop, just do what you can |
| 22:13.33 | Adirelle | NeoTron: another thing, but this is maybe just personnal feeling, I tried the label mouseover display, it was sometimes hard to get the right plugin, I'm wondering if some delay *wouldn't help |
| 22:13.44 | Wraithan | ok |
| 22:14.01 | Wraithan | I have a small farm I can bring up for the task, how many days out are you from doing this? |
| 22:14.06 | NeoTron | I don't like label mouseover myself, a delay might help it though |
| 22:14.20 | NeoTron | it was a requested feature. I find it annoying when crap moves around. |
| 22:14.23 | Adirelle | same with the tooltips: on multiline layout, they may covers the other plugins |
| 22:14.26 | Wraithan | and how much harddrive space is needed? |
| 22:14.27 | NeoTron | a delay might make it less annoying |
| 22:14.33 | ckknight | well, e.g. Cartographer is 13 MiB compressed |
| 22:14.39 | NeoTron | tooltips have a few issues I plan to fix too. |
| 22:14.51 | Wraithan | 100mb enough? |
| 22:14.54 | NeoTron | they sometimes stick around a bit too much |
| 22:15.11 | NeoTron | i.e "sticky" tooltips (fubar typically) don't go away unless you enter the tooltip and then exit it |
| 22:15.12 | Adirelle | one thing that could be win : move them to the side of the bin, instead of sticking it to the button |
| 22:15.26 | Wraithan | actually all my farm boxes have at least a gig free |
| 22:15.28 | ckknight | you'd download that, uncompress, do your thing, then tar.gz the repo, roughly 7-20 MiB, which is then transferred back |
| 22:15.38 | Wraithan | forgot I upgraded the harddrives in them |
| 22:15.42 | NeoTron | you mean keep the tooltip in a fixed location outside the bin? |
| 22:15.56 | ckknight | so there is a bandwidth cost to this |
| 22:16.03 | ckknight | but it's not huge |
| 22:16.07 | Wraithan | eh |
| 22:16.09 | Adirelle | not really |
| 22:16.12 | Daemona | hmm *digs up his vmware* |
| 22:16.14 | Daemona | any linux does? |
| 22:16.20 | Wraithan | I am the only one that uses my net |
| 22:16.22 | Adirelle | just ensure the tooltip doesn't overlap the whole bin |
| 22:16.24 | ckknight | basically, Daemona |
| 22:16.35 | NeoTron | I hate tooltips :P |
| 22:16.39 | ckknight | we don't have it ready to test or anything yet, we'll let you all know how and when to help out |
| 22:16.56 | NeoTron | configuring how they are handled would make sense and a lot of it can be helped with a small delay |
| 22:17.01 | Adirelle | notice I'm not sure you can do it with objects that do their own handling |
| 22:17.18 | NeoTron | all fubar objects to |
| 22:17.19 | NeoTron | do |
| 22:17.23 | Daemona | my suggestion would be to get a howto up for creating a vmware on windows, supply a linux to boot and a short howto get the "converter" running |
| 22:17.28 | NeoTron | which are the ones that "stick" too much |
| 22:17.43 | Daemona | that way you would get a huge audience even on windows to help |
| 22:17.52 | NeoTron | if you need to mouse over something for a second for it to show, it becomes much less of an issue |
| 22:17.55 | Wraithan | Daemona: good idea, could probably base it off dsl or something |
| 22:18.11 | Adirelle | say the button is in the center of a 3x3 square, set the anchor point to the bin border, not the button border |
| 22:18.14 | Daemona | they could just fire up the VM, minimize and run netlimiter to not choke the upload |
| 22:18.26 | Daemona | just my 2cc ;) |
| 22:18.26 | NeoTron | ironicall I got that piece of code (tooltips) from fortress ;-) |
| 22:18.37 | Adirelle | lol |
| 22:18.58 | NeoTron | Adirelle: yeah sure. configurable of course |
| 22:19.00 | Adirelle | I ripped the same code to put it into Barrel |
| 22:19.01 | ckknight | Daemona: yea, we might distribute a vmware image or something |
| 22:19.25 | Daemona | hmm by the way... anyone know if vmware is yet signing their stupid drivers to work under vista? |
| 22:19.39 | Daemona | the "freeware" version beta 2 |
| 22:19.43 | Adirelle | ckknight: when is the work planned ? |
| 22:19.44 | Daemona | or whatever its called atm |
| 22:19.52 | Daemona | soon (tm) |
| 22:19.54 | Daemona | ;) |
| 22:20.00 | ckknight | Adirelle: it'll probably start in a week or so |
| 22:20.04 | Adirelle | ok |
| 22:20.06 | ckknight | give or take |
| 22:20.07 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 22:20.39 | NeoTron | Adirelle: anyhow, if you prefer individual button behavior BB is not meant for you. That said your feedback / suggestions are good never the less |
| 22:20.53 | ckknight | also: if you want to make your projects automatically match up to your user on the new wowace, make sure that you have X-eMail match your curse email. |
| 22:20.57 | Wraithan | It would probably be adventagious of you to make it run with a cli argument for where to dump things/config files are, so you could run multiple copies, for those of us with dual cores |
| 22:21.12 | ckknight | Wraithan: that's what -j2 is for |
| 22:21.17 | Adirelle | NeoTron: thx |
| 22:21.47 | Wraithan | ? |
| 22:21.57 | Daemona | ckknight whats the bottleneck if you put it on a home pc? cpu power or upload? i guess its the upload? |
| 22:22.09 | ckknight | IO churn |
| 22:22.13 | Wraithan | daemona, upload for sure |
| 22:22.15 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:22.18 | ckknight | but yea, likely upload |
| 22:22.30 | Daemona | tell the people to buy a SSD ;) |
| 22:22.37 | Daemona | and then run the client on that |
| 22:22.41 | Daemona | whistles innocently. |
| 22:22.44 | ckknight | hehe |
| 22:23.02 | Daemona | i think i couldnt warant getting some iRam ... i always wanted one... |
| 22:23.09 | Wraithan | bah SSDs suck if you are doing lots of writes |
| 22:23.10 | Daemona | whistles some more. |
| 22:23.22 | Fisker- | ckknight doesn't care about me :( |
| 22:23.23 | Daemona | Wraithan go and look for some iRam ;) |
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| 22:23.28 | ckknight | sure don't, Fisker- |
| 22:23.31 | Wraithan | they burn out way sooner than conventional drives |
| 22:24.07 | Daemona | ckknight so its rather some "grab from wowace, de-compress, re-arrange, compress, upload to curse" job? |
| 22:24.21 | ckknight | Daemona: basically. |
| 22:24.45 | ckknight | though actually it'll all be something.wowace.com |
| 22:24.58 | Daemona | was talking about the backend |
| 22:25.13 | ckknight | but yea, you got the idea |
| 22:25.27 | Wraithan | backends are my favorite part ;) |
| 22:25.28 | Daemona | well guess the best would be, supply a boot image, linux based |
| 22:25.49 | Daemona | people then could decide to boot it or load it into a VM |
| 22:26.11 | Daemona | have it create a ram-disk to reduce IO strain on the hdd on de-compression and compression |
| 22:26.31 | ckknight | oh, and so you all know, we will likely be making some parts of the curseforge/wowace code available for public hackery soon |
| 22:26.31 | Daemona | but i guess you brain-stormed that much already hu? |
| 22:26.55 | ckknight | at least the packager as well as the repo hooks |
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| 22:29.26 | Fisker- | plants a bomb in ckknight |
| 22:29.49 | Fisker- | i have planted a bomb inside you, you'll never find it before it's detonated |
| 22:29.50 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 22:29.51 | Adirelle | I may have my office computer running the job, at the condition that it uses some kind of netlimiter to avoid to scare our network admin |
| 22:29.53 | Daemona | triggers Fisker-. |
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| 22:32.42 | CIA-51 | 03adirelle * r81367 10!CooldownFader/!CooldownFader.toc: !CooldownFader: added my e-mail in the .toc. |
| 22:32.49 | CIA-51 | 03adirelle * r81368 10BankList/BankList.toc: BankList: added my e-mail in the .toc. |
| 22:33.01 | Ellipsis | alphabetical batch commits, whee~ |
| 22:33.10 | CIA-51 | 03adirelle * r81369 10CastYeller/CastYeller.toc: CastYeller: added my e-mail in the .toc. |
| 22:33.14 | CIA-51 | 03adirelle * r81370 10LibDebugLog-1.0/LibDebugLog-1.0.toc: LibDebugLog-1.0: added my e-mail in the .toc. |
| 22:33.22 | CIA-51 | 03adirelle * r81371 10MinimapTarget/MinimapTarget.toc: MinimapTarget: added my e-mail in the .toc. |
| 22:34.01 | CIA-51 | 03adirelle * r81372 10QuietCast/QuietCast.toc: QuietCast: added my e-mail in the .toc. |
| 22:34.17 | CIA-51 | 03adirelle * r81373 10SimpleSelfRebuff/SimpleSelfRebuff.toc: SimpleSelfRebuff: added my e-mail in the .toc. |
| 22:34.25 | CIA-51 | 03adirelle * r81374 10Yatba/Yatba.toc: Yatba: added my e-mail in the .toc. |
| 22:34.40 | Adirelle | done |
| 22:34.53 | Adirelle | no I'm awaiting you, spammers ! |
| 22:34.57 | Adirelle | +w |
| 22:36.42 | ckknight | hehe |
| 22:37.01 | ckknight | basically, if we can't tell whose project it is, it becomes wowaceSVN's project |
| 22:37.08 | ckknight | at which point, you can report it and a moderator can reassign it |
| 22:37.37 | ckknight | going by Author: doesn't work, since that's not really guaranteed to be unique in most cases, which is sad |
| 22:38.10 | Stanzilla | Adirelle: SimpleSelfRebuff Ace3 port and LDB launcher: GO! |
| 22:38.20 | Adirelle | awwww |
| 22:38.38 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 22:39.09 | Adirelle | for now I'll sleep |
| 22:39.12 | Adirelle | night |
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| 22:52.17 | Wraithan | Will wow get upset if I have additional files in wtf or wow directory? |
| 22:52.41 | Gngsk | if they're on the bad files list I think it won't let you log in |
| 22:53.03 | Gngsk | otherwise, you should be fine |
| 22:53.07 | Wraithan | kk |
| 22:53.50 | NivFreak | Wraithan: I keep random tarballs there all the time |
| 22:54.08 | Wraithan | I plan on adding 2 dirs and a file to my wow directory heh |
| 22:54.10 | Wraithan | er |
| 22:54.12 | Wraithan | 2 dirs and 2 files |
| 22:54.33 | NivFreak | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:54.45 | NivFreak | if you want to do tricky things |
| 22:55.16 | Wraithan | config files for this app, the app to switch the wtfs out, and the 2 backup wtfs |
| 22:55.39 | Wraithan | already have it autodetecting my resolution so I don't ahve to have 2 different launchers |
| 22:55.58 | Wraithan | config file, not plural |
| 22:56.29 | Wraithan | automation is such a beautiful thing |
| 22:57.10 | bentglasstube | does your resolution change so often that it became an issue? |
| 22:59.09 | Wraithan | yeah |
| 22:59.27 | NeoTron | I symlinked my WTF account directories so despite two account I share global settings |
| 22:59.36 | Wraithan | I change between dual monitor and monitor + TV 2+ times a day |
| 22:59.38 | NeoTron | I don't rn both account at the same tiem on the same computer though |
| 23:00.22 | Wraithan | which isn't normally a problem but when I am running dual monitor, I have wow spanning both |
| 23:00.39 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I still just need to automate a pull/push of my savedvars from somehere central |
| 23:00.50 | Wraithan | and when it is monitor + TV usually I am watching a movie or streaming some shows off hulu/netflix |
| 23:00.57 | NivFreak | since I play on several different machines |
| 23:01.11 | Wraithan | NivFreak: syncbak |
| 23:01.13 | Wraithan | er |
| 23:01.13 | NivFreak | the different resolutions/aspect ratios screw me up a bit though |
| 23:01.16 | Wraithan | syncback |
| 23:01.22 | Wraithan | oh |
| 23:01.23 | NivFreak | rsync? :P |
| 23:01.53 | Wraithan | I run windows for gaming, and syncback will automate the updating |
| 23:01.55 | NivFreak | I have a bunch of stuff I'd actually like to happen when I exit my client |
| 23:02.06 | NivFreak | upload my group cal and SKG saved vars to my guild website |
| 23:02.14 | NivFreak | sync some savedvars between machines |
| 23:02.19 | NivFreak | roll combat logs |
| 23:02.21 | NivFreak | chat logs |
| 23:02.22 | NivFreak | etc |
| 23:02.24 | Wraithan | lol |
| 23:02.26 | NivFreak | I just need to get around to doing it |
| 23:02.28 | NeoTron | unison is nice |
| 23:02.34 | Wraithan | just run wow via a script |
| 23:02.37 | NeoTron | two-way file sync app |
| 23:02.46 | Wraithan | and when the process terminates it will finish out the script |
| 23:03.09 | Wraithan | shell scripts are awesome :D |
| 23:03.18 | NivFreak | NeoTron: merging savedvars could be scary :) |
| 23:03.20 | NivFreak | but yea |
| 23:03.30 | NeoTron | well I assume you'd typically play one or another |
| 23:03.38 | NivFreak | Wraithan: of course, but I was just saying I have yet to do it |
| 23:03.39 | NeoTron | it can also do one-way syncing either direction |
| 23:03.52 | NivFreak | I need to write a bit of simple perl code to post my savedvars to a web app |
| 23:04.23 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I have 4 accounts, and I play them randomly on 3 different machines (and 3 OSes) |
| 23:04.48 | NivFreak | I was dualbox healing and tanking in BT last night because I was short a healer |
| 23:05.00 | NivFreak | my TPS rough, but I topped heal meters on najentus |
| 23:05.00 | NivFreak | haha |
| 23:05.56 | smcn | i knew someone who 3-boxed a warrior(tank), priest(healer), and hunter in heroics:P |
| 23:06.10 | NivFreak | yea, that would be rough |
| 23:06.20 | NivFreak | tanking najentus is tank and spank for the tank |
| 23:06.27 | Wraithan | It wasn't as rough in some ways, but I used to 6box in EQ |
| 23:06.46 | NivFreak | my hunter was also in raid last night, but not played by me |
| 23:06.49 | NivFreak | so I should try it ;P |
| 23:07.12 | NivFreak | I find that I can dualbox fine, but doing tank+heal+dps would be rough in anything but the most trivial fights |
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| 23:07.34 | NivFreak | I guess on najentus I could if I wasn't pulling spines |
| 23:07.51 | NivFreak | just use keyclone and make all my tanking buttons my steadyshot macro |
| 23:07.52 | NivFreak | haha |
| 23:08.05 | NivFreak | or shit, just heroic strike I guess |
| 23:08.50 | Wraithan | or just your mouse wheel be steadyshot |
| 23:09.09 | Wraithan | then you can map everything else to regular keys and mouse wheel to steady shot |
| 23:10.10 | NivFreak | yea, too much while raid leading :P |
| 23:13.54 | KriLL3 | There it is! BlizzCast 5 is now on the RSS, only NINE days after it was put on the site. |
| 23:13.59 | KriLL3 | NINE |
| 23:14.13 | smcn | what? nine! |
| 23:14.19 | KriLL3 | NINE DAYS |
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| 23:15.07 | KriLL3 | do they code the XML with their toes? |
| 23:16.12 | NivFreak | hah, it just showed up in itunes |
| 23:16.13 | NivFreak | nice |
| 23:16.36 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 23:16.46 | KriLL3 | I just saw it "new podcast!" errm... it's over a week old |
| 23:17.02 | NivFreak | that's how long it took the torrent to itunes to finish |
| 23:17.03 | NivFreak | haha |
| 23:17.06 | KriLL3 | we need to smack those guys around a bit, but they don't have any contact info on the site |
| 23:18.08 | KriLL3 | slap them within an inch of their lives and then make them update their feeds at the same time they update their site |
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| 23:25.00 | Daemona | uhm |
| 23:25.14 | Daemona | the summary on the itunes store for cast 4 and 5 are the same ^^ |
| 23:25.42 | NivFreak | lol |
| 23:25.43 | NivFreak | yea |
| 23:25.46 | KriLL3 | I'm so damn glad of mace stun being removed in LK, just wish Paladins who got a million ways to stay alive + thick armor didn't have 3-4 stuns and a slow also... |
| 23:26.06 | KriLL3 | it took them 9 days to add it, and they didn't even get the summary right?... |
| 23:26.20 | Larana | I |
| 23:26.24 | Daemona | and its only 15mb compared to cast4 110mb |
| 23:26.27 | Daemona | very strange |
| 23:26.33 | KriLL3 | they can bubble twice and still got a million stuns |
| 23:26.51 | KriLL3 | the one on the site is 70MB |
| 23:26.57 | KriLL3 | I guess it's broken |
| 23:27.31 | Larana | I'm guessing that there isn't a WowAce Forums thread listing all the WotLK compatable ace addons? Yes, I know about WoWI and WoWWiki's list, just wanted to know if WoWAce had one of their own. |
| 23:27.37 | CIA-51 | 03Mera-92869 * r27 10OneCompanion/ (12 files in 4 dirs): |
| 23:27.37 | CIA-51 | OneCompanion: |
| 23:27.37 | CIA-51 | -bugfix & updates |
| 23:30.54 | Ackis | blizzard shit on itunes? ewwwww |
| 23:33.04 | KriLL3 | Ackis: their RSS feed is also broken & late |
| 23:33.16 | KriLL3 | iTunes only pull down RSS feeds, it has nothing to do with the applestore |
| 23:33.29 | Ackis | it was on their launcher? |
| 23:33.35 | Ackis | I don't use/have itunes |
| 23:33.36 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 23:33.52 | KriLL3 | launcher? |
| 23:33.52 | Ackis | the article was on the blizzard launcher |
| 23:33.53 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 23:34.03 | Ackis | ... |
| 23:34.05 | Ackis | you do play wow? |
| 23:34.09 | KriLL3 | ofc |
| 23:34.24 | Ackis | there's a launcher that loads before you play said game (optional) |
| 23:34.32 | KriLL3 | never seen one |
| 23:34.39 | Ackis | lol |
| 23:34.45 | Ackis | load launcher.exe from your wow folder |
| 23:34.56 | Ackis | there's also the option in game |
| 23:34.58 | KriLL3 | why would I want to do that? |
| 23:35.09 | KriLL3 | I start the game's main exe |
| 23:35.17 | KriLL3 | Wow.exe |
| 23:35.29 | Ackis | when you install the game it points to launcher.exe |
| 23:35.40 | Ackis | and I'm telling you how you can see it since you have no idea what I'm talking about :P |
| 23:35.59 | Larana | The launcher.exe will also give you an error log if you get hacked or some other issue prevents wow from starting. |
| 23:36.38 | KriLL3 | Ackis: it was on their site, that's where I first saw ep5 |
| 23:36.41 | KriLL3 | 9 days ago |
| 23:36.55 | KriLL3 | they just updated their RSS feed and iTunes feed with ep5 |
| 23:37.00 | Ackis | Larana: it also allows you to pre-patch right? |
| 23:37.16 | Larana | Aye |
| 23:37.27 | KriLL3 | I'm just a bit confused as to why they update their feeds more than a week after the fact, and the file they provided for the feeds is broken, and with the wrong summary |
| 23:38.02 | Ackis | anyway my question is, what the hell are they selling, and any way I can get them without installing apple ishit? |
| 23:38.10 | KriLL3 | errm, how many bubbles can a paladin cast on himself in the same fight (less than 5 mins) and what do they do? |
| 23:38.25 | KriLL3 | Ackis: huh? |
| 23:38.59 | KriLL3 | you can get RSS feeds with a huge multitude of media players/podcast applications, I dunno if winamp supports it but I think so |
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| 23:39.27 | Ackis | isn't itunes a store? |
| 23:39.36 | KriLL3 | yes and no |
| 23:39.42 | KriLL3 | podcasts are free |
| 23:39.53 | KriLL3 | as is a couple of other stuff on there |
| 23:40.14 | KriLL3 | and you can input any RSS feed you wish manually and it downloads it np |
| 23:40.29 | KriLL3 | you haven't listened to a podcast yet I take it? |
| 23:40.34 | NivFreak | itunes is an app |
| 23:40.34 | NivFreak | :P |
| 23:40.35 | AbsoRayne | Is there a way to make DogTags pick up a difference between say HasAura or hasMyAura (if such a tag may exist) |
| 23:40.39 | NivFreak | there is an itunes store |
| 23:40.45 | NivFreak | it's a subset of itunes |
| 23:41.52 | Ackis | so you can get the blizzard stuff for free? |
| 23:41.58 | Ackis | never listened to a podcast |
| 23:42.20 | KriLL3 | iTunes is actually a *gasp* full fledged media player, it can play music files from just about any source, including lossless and mp3 files on your harddisk, not just from the iTunes store, I know this is a hard concept to grasp, so ask and I'll try to explain it |
| 23:42.25 | KriLL3 | Ackis: yes |
| 23:42.32 | KriLL3 | 99.999% of all podcasts are free |
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| 23:43.10 | Wraithan | Um, it doesn't play flac without addins and even then, it doesn't work very well |
| 23:43.19 | Ackis | sarcasm coming from the guy who doesn't know about the wow launcher :P |
| 23:43.25 | KriLL3 | a podcast is a bit like a radio show if it's audio only, a bit like a TV show if it's video + audio, you have an app that automatically pulls down each new episode as it's released |
| 23:43.49 | KriLL3 | Ackis: I don't use default ways to start games/apps, I make shortcuts to the main .exe |
| 23:44.00 | KriLL3 | Wraithan: flac isn't the only lossless format |
| 23:44.59 | Wraithan | I find it is the most common lessless |
| 23:45.02 | Wraithan | lossless |
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| 23:45.30 | KriLL3 | true, but converting from one lossless format is extremely quick and *gasp* lossless ;) |
| 23:45.43 | KriLL3 | I convert flac to apple lossless at 98x |
| 23:45.51 | KriLL3 | aka if it's 98 mins it takes 1 min |
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| 23:46.48 | Wraithan | I know what that meant, and it still sucks that I have to convert my stuff for their media player, wish they would just support flac directly |
| 23:47.00 | Elgren | Hello, does anyone know what frame I should anchor my kg_panel to. If I want it set to my pitbull raidgroup 1 frame? |
| 23:47.17 | NivFreak | Wraithan: last I checked, you could just install codecs :P |
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| 23:47.46 | KriLL3 | Wraithan: me2, but most big companies like to impose their own proprietary garbage, memorystick comes to mind |
| 23:47.47 | Dashkal | ~devtools |
| 23:47.48 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 23:48.35 | Dashkal | Elgren: I don't know the specific answer, but nab devtools and use /dtframestack. It'll help you find the name of whatever frame you want to anchor to |
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| 23:48.47 | KriLL3 | my GTX 260 comes in the mail tomorrow :) |
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| 23:51.08 | sacarasc | you hope |
| 23:52.06 | KriLL3 | I know |
| 23:52.09 | KriLL3 | I'm tracking it |
| 23:52.25 | Elgren | Dashkal Im not that into it. Is that something I can do easily? |
| 23:52.35 | KriLL3 | could someone please list all paladin stuns? Hammer of Justice I know but they seem to have 2-3 more |
| 23:52.49 | NivFreak | SoJ |
| 23:52.53 | Dashkal | Elgren: Very. Just install devtools as an addon and /dtframestack to show the stack of frames under your cursor. do it again to make it stop |
| 23:52.56 | KriLL3 | stands for? |
| 23:52.59 | NivFreak | seal of justice |
| 23:53.09 | Elgren | Dashkal ty |
| 23:53.14 | KriLL3 | don't they have more? repentance or something like that? |
| 23:53.16 | NivFreak | Fills the Paladin with the spirit of justice for 30 sec, giving each melee attack a chance to stun for 2 sec. Only one Seal can be active on the Paladin at any one time. |
| 23:53.21 | NivFreak | are we talking wrath, or live? |
| 23:53.22 | Wraithan | KriLL3: and they could be using scrubhearld |
| 23:53.40 | KriLL3 | yay scrubhearld + macestun = stunlock |
| 23:53.56 | Wobin | I'm going to miss macestun |
| 23:54.03 | NivFreak | not me |
| 23:54.04 | KriLL3 | I won't |
| 23:54.05 | NivFreak | I like the burst more |
| 23:54.13 | NivFreak | I've always prefered swords |
| 23:54.14 | KriLL3 | It's utterly retarded that a class with that much armor and dps can stunlock |
| 23:54.20 | NivFreak | the one thing I'll miss, is weapon specs |
| 23:54.24 | NivFreak | since I'll be 51 fury |
| 23:54.25 | Wobin | Oh, as a rogue I mean |
| 23:54.25 | NivFreak | :) |
| 23:54.37 | Wobin | screw those warriors |
| 23:54.39 | KriLL3 | rogues can stunlock because they're flimsy, warriors aren't |
| 23:54.39 | NivFreak | haha |
| 23:54.48 | NivFreak | warriors are so fucking brutal in wrath atm |
| 23:54.57 | Wobin | yeah, warriors should just eat it |
| 23:54.59 | NivFreak | nerfs will come soon I'm sure |
| 23:55.04 | Wobin | rogues are where the stunning is at |
| 23:55.19 | KriLL3 | It's lovely how druids atm doesn't scale at all while warriors scale into the sky :> |
| 23:55.22 | NivFreak | Wobin: does that mean my holy priest should be able to stunlock? : |
| 23:55.32 | NivFreak | KriLL3: dps or tank |
| 23:55.38 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 23:55.42 | NivFreak | < KriLL3> It's lovely how druids atm doesn't scale at all while warriors scale into the sky :> |
| 23:55.44 | Wobin | NivFreak: well.. you can with that priest one |
| 23:55.55 | NivFreak | Wobin: ? |
| 23:55.59 | Wobin | it just takes a good rotation of priests to get the stunlock going =) |
| 23:55.59 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: ? |
| 23:56.13 | Wobin | chastisement? |
| 23:56.14 | NivFreak | KriLL3: what do you mean druids don't scale |
| 23:56.20 | KriLL3 | they don't |
| 23:56.25 | NivFreak | in what sense |
| 23:56.25 | KriLL3 | what else is there to say? |
| 23:56.27 | NivFreak | and where |
| 23:56.34 | KriLL3 | dps |
| 23:56.36 | KriLL3 | everywhere |
| 23:56.47 | NivFreak | boomkin scale |
| 23:56.52 | NivFreak | last I checked |
| 23:56.53 | Wobin | threatcapped |
| 23:57.00 | NivFreak | mine isn't threatcapped |
| 23:57.05 | NivFreak | :P |
| 23:57.11 | Wobin | you've not hit high enough then =P |
| 23:57.11 | KriLL3 | most of our abilities only scale a little bit with AP, rest doesn't scale at all, we were meant to scale with crits but that doesn't work with resilience |
| 23:57.16 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: feral, duh |
| 23:57.34 | NivFreak | KriLL3: they are getting a big rework in beta soon, that's sort of a known problem |
| 23:57.46 | KriLL3 | boomkin does an epic ton more dmg than catform, has more CC and has plenty of armor |
| 23:57.47 | Wobin | <3 my boomkin |
| 23:57.49 | NivFreak | you don't have anything to worry about from prot warrior dps though :P |
| 23:57.53 | Wobin | it's true |
| 23:58.05 | Wobin | especially with root being usable indoors now |
| 23:58.10 | Kolie | Mac client can login ( then crash ) |
| 23:58.11 | NivFreak | my boomkin rarely outthreats my destro locks long term |
| 23:58.13 | Carancu | things are already better in the beta, we're not there yet, but the jurney there has begun. |
| 23:58.14 | Wobin | and chain cycl |
| 23:58.23 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: the big problem with ferals though is that all the fixes we get in LK would make us about equal in pvp to everyone now, and everyone else is getting a lot of boosting also |
| 23:58.26 | NivFreak | he's not the world's best boomkin, but he's not a poor player |
| 23:58.42 | NivFreak | KriLL3: I demand my prot tree be pvp viable |
| 23:58.59 | Wobin | NivFreak: hehe how? |
| 23:59.03 | Megalon | i demand 0-0- being pvp viable |
| 23:59.05 | KriLL3 | feral with full dps skew isn't a good tank, now shut it |
| 23:59.06 | Megalon | 0-0-0 |
| 23:59.07 | Megalon | :x |
| 23:59.08 | NivFreak | Megalon: yes, good point |
| 23:59.26 | NivFreak | KriLL3: and a warrior with full dps isn't good as a tank or at pvp |
| 23:59.27 | KriLL3 | ferals can't be good tanks and dps anymore |
| 23:59.29 | NivFreak | so what's your point |
| 23:59.56 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: just saying that prot isn't viable in pvp, neither is full tanking feral spec |
| 23:59.59 | Wobin | that's what the DKs are for =P |
