| 00:00.22 | Dashkal | cat cower should totally put us in a short legrub animation. |
| 00:00.24 | Arrowmaster | you know its kinda amazing what all was on the wowace svn pre 5000 commits |
| 00:00.41 | Dashkal | The bosses are so huge that the proportions would be about right |
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| 00:02.11 | Antiarc | what bar mods, if any, work in beta? |
| 00:02.30 | Tuller | all of them! |
| 00:02.33 | fewyn | i wish the login screen didn't eat my cpu |
| 00:02.51 | Tuller | that is bartender4, dominos, maul's new thingy |
| 00:03.16 | Antiarc | awesome! |
| 00:03.46 | fewyn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/latest.php?wotlk http://www.wowwiki.com/WotLK_AddOn_status |
| 00:03.49 | fewyn | those are useful links |
| 00:04.27 | smcn | neat |
| 00:05.54 | fewyn | ah |
| 00:05.58 | fewyn | they reclosed storm peaks? |
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| 00:10.45 | fewyn | anyone know what multisampling is exactly? *is looking through his video options* |
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| 00:11.05 | smcn | sampling more than once? :) |
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| 00:29.35 | Megalon | fewyn: anti-aliasing |
| 00:31.05 | Stanzilla | Finally, we have modified Heroism and Bloodlust to affect the entire raid. However, all affected raid members will be unable to cast or benefit from Bloodlust/Heroism for 5 minutes. < olol |
| 00:31.43 | fewyn | ? |
| 00:32.15 | fewyn | oh |
| 00:32.16 | fewyn | i see it |
| 00:32.24 | Wobin | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336665205&pageNo=1&sid=2000#0 |
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| 00:33.17 | NeoTron | they forgot: "We've also removed all raid utility from aff locks but we still won't scale their dps properly lolol" ;-) |
| 00:33.25 | Wobin | yeah |
| 00:33.27 | fewyn | xD |
| 00:33.39 | fewyn | good thing my lock is still covered in dust then |
| 00:33.49 | Wobin | my friend is so pissed off at that =P |
| 00:35.01 | NeoTron | seriously will be interesting to see if they will address affliction lock DPS now when mages out-raid-benefit them |
| 00:35.21 | NeoTron | (better int buff, raid-wide +crit buff only mages can apply, +possible mana regen buff from frost spec) |
| 00:35.35 | fewyn | i'm eering at some of the changes |
| 00:35.48 | NeoTron | at least one thing is good |
| 00:35.53 | NeoTron | don't have to pick up Shadow Embrace anymore |
| 00:36.01 | NeoTron | since it's now useless! |
| 00:36.34 | Megalon | hm |
| 00:36.36 | Megalon | nice bluepost |
| 00:36.37 | fewyn | xD |
| 00:36.39 | Megalon | Attack Power Buff (Multiplier): Abomination's Might, Trueshot Aura, Unleashed Rage |
| 00:36.39 | fewyn | yea |
| 00:36.41 | fewyn | a big one |
| 00:36.45 | fewyn | i like this jimmy guy |
| 00:36.52 | Megalon | typo or is TSA going to change? |
| 00:37.00 | fewyn | TSA? |
| 00:37.04 | Megalon | trueshot aura |
| 00:37.05 | fewyn | it might |
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| 00:39.52 | Megalon | mhm |
| 00:39.53 | Megalon | and |
| 00:39.57 | Megalon | Increased Spell Hit Chance Taken Debuff: Improved Faerie Fire, Misery |
| 00:40.15 | Megalon | so misery will also get changed :x |
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| 00:41.42 | Obelixprime | so ellipsis |
| 00:41.49 | Obelixprime | i need target debuffs + all debuffs |
| 00:42.02 | Antiarc | http://www.gamevee.com/viewVideo/World_of_Warcraft/PC/Fan_of_Knives/741766 for the curious |
| 00:43.35 | Ackis | keylogger |
| 00:44.33 | Antiarc | obviously |
| 00:44.41 | nymbia | yup |
| 00:45.04 | nymbia | Antiarc can log my keys any day |
| 00:45.15 | Wobin | rawr |
| 00:45.18 | Antiarc | http://www.gamevee.com/viewVideo/World_of_Warcraft/PC/The_Drakkensryd/740706 too if you haven't seen it |
| 00:47.03 | Ackis | oh hi nymbia |
| 00:47.18 | nymbia | hey :) |
| 00:47.43 | nymbia | got a toothy yesterday ^^ |
| 00:49.10 | Bruners | Antiarc: that is a quest or what? |
| 00:49.10 | Antiarc | Yeah, quest |
| 00:49.10 | nymbia | Nargiddley: ping |
| 00:49.11 | Zhinjio | thats a pretty awesome quest |
| 00:49.11 | Antiarc | You hookshot from drake to drake knocking off their riders |
| 00:49.11 | Antiarc | It's awesome |
| 00:49.11 | Nargiddley | nymbia, pong |
| 00:49.12 | nymbia | Nargiddley: configgui question for you |
| 00:49.14 | NeoTron | it says there hat misery is now 3% spell hit |
| 00:49.31 | NeoTron | they have to buff shadow priests to have respectable, well-scalable dmg too |
| 00:49.50 | NeoTron | they are in a situation where pretty much all classes that can DPS (and all specs) need to do so approximately as well |
| 00:50.12 | Antiarc | Duuuuuude. |
| 00:50.13 | Antiarc | http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=332904 |
| 00:50.23 | Obelixprime | nocts? |
| 00:50.31 | Ackis | nymbia: I got nothing :( |
| 00:50.35 | nocts | Sup? |
| 00:50.50 | Obelixprime | i figure that i need a bit of redundency |
| 00:50.57 | Obelixprime | with respect to having dotimers and quartz |
| 00:51.00 | nocts | Oh? |
| 00:51.07 | Bruners | Antiarc: have they updated the graphics in wotlk or is it just the video that make it look alot smother? |
| 00:51.15 | Obelixprime | i just had a good example |
| 00:51.18 | Antiarc | The art direction is gorgeous in Wrath |
| 00:51.23 | nymbia | Nargiddley: the documentation says that the callbacks should all get the same args -- is there a reason that ... isn't passed to confirm functions? |
| 00:51.29 | Obelixprime | we're on kj, and sinister reflections spawned |
| 00:51.42 | Obelixprime | and they all have the same name, and dotimers doesn't distinguish between them |
| 00:52.04 | Obelixprime | so i was frantically just tab dotting |
| 00:52.12 | Nargiddley | nymbia, I think this was brought up before |
| 00:52.59 | Nargiddley | nymbia, I thought it had been pushed to trunk but I'll check |
| 00:53.09 | nocts | Add what you need to function then. Perhaps consider only adding redundancy when it's required? |
| 00:53.29 | Funkeh` | nymbia, we still on for tonight again? |
| 00:53.44 | nymbia | Nargiddley: might have, ran into it a couple weeks ago and havent looked since |
| 00:53.50 | nymbia | Funkeh`: you know it hot stuff |
| 00:54.18 | Ackis | pics pls? |
| 00:54.31 | Nargiddley | nymbia, its fixed in the branch but not pushed to trunk yet |
| 00:54.43 | nymbia | Nargiddley: ok, great. |
| 00:55.49 | nymbia | Nargiddley: thanks, sorry for not checking before i asked |
| 00:56.02 | Funkeh` | nymbia, wotcha doin? |
| 00:56.13 | nymbia | Funkeh`: picking mana berries |
| 00:56.34 | nymbia | Funkeh`: or you mean what am i writing in ace3? |
| 00:56.44 | Funkeh` | yer |
| 00:57.06 | nymbia | that was something i ran into on converting spellbinder |
| 00:58.27 | nymbia | the confirm box is set to only come up when there's something already bound to that key, so the confirm function checks that.. but needs to know the value for that to happen |
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| 01:02.08 | Dashkal | Antiarc: re game hacks forum link. Am I blind or is it reviews with no help on getting the actual remakes? (I'd understand if there's no link for legal reasons, just checking if I'm blind) |
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| 01:03.39 | Antiarc | Just reviews, but those are names that I can google |
| 01:03.42 | Antiarc | Because they look AWESOME |
| 01:03.49 | Antiarc | I'm gonna have to Twilight hack my Wii now |
| 01:03.52 | Antiarc | So I can play those on there |
| 01:05.08 | Corgan | I twilight hack'd my wii |
| 01:05.10 | Corgan | ;D |
| 01:05.15 | Corgan | anything interesting to do on it? |
| 01:07.44 | Dashkal | I think my wii is patched to after the twilight fix (haven't checked, I might be misreemembering if that fix is in or not) |
| 01:08.35 | Dashkal | but I have a gamepad for the PC. emulation is just fine |
| 01:08.36 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336665205&sid=2000 |
| 01:09.12 | Dashkal | woot, free from work |
| 01:14.33 | Ellipsis | warlocks got raepd again -.- |
| 01:15.05 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 01:15.10 | Ellipsis | <3 Zhinjio |
| 01:19.00 | NeoTron | Ellipsis: need buffs. badly |
| 01:19.06 | Ellipsis | seriously |
| 01:19.31 | Ellipsis | I'm tempted to class-color that list and point out that warlocks have like 3 utility buffs/debuffs and they're almost all the weakest of their type |
| 01:19.31 | NeoTron | on the other hand this might mean affliction won't be be a gimp spec in terms of DPS |
| 01:19.43 | Zhinjio | Ackis: ping |
| 01:19.43 | Ellipsis | hahaha |
| 01:19.43 | NeoTron | either that or they kill aff warlock before we even started |
| 01:19.48 | Ellipsis | no, because we still cast shadow bolt!!!! |
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| 01:22.31 | Ellipsis | oh shi, it's a Fisker-, get in the car |
| 01:22.53 | fewyn | server go boom? |
| 01:23.40 | Shefki | Ellipsis: Send him kitten pictures. |
| 01:25.45 | p3lim | Who wrote AceTab-3.0? |
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| 01:27.53 | Trell_ | this is going to sound like a stupid question |
| 01:28.15 | Trell_ | but with Xloot, is there anyway to track who recieves an item, then stop them from being assigned anymore of that item on the Random option |
| 01:28.32 | Trell_ | ie; a sunmote |
| 01:28.58 | p3lim | AceTab-3.0 doesnt work whatsoever, Id like to know who wrote it |
| 01:30.02 | Wobin | hyperchipmunk maybe? |
| 01:32.46 | nymbia | you gonna go smack him around? |
| 01:33.48 | p3lim | AceTab IS for tab completing right? |
| 01:33.58 | nymbia | most likely |
| 01:35.52 | Ackis | p3lim: yes |
| 01:36.04 | p3lim | ok, doesnt work then :p |
| 01:36.47 | nymbia | sure you're using it right? |
| 01:39.02 | p3lim | well my test code is too stupidly easy to be wrond |
| 01:39.04 | p3lim | wrong* |
| 01:40.13 | p3lim | http://pastey.net/94997 |
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| 02:01.20 | Arrowmaster | p3lim: are you sure you are using it correctly? |
| 02:01.29 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 02:01.38 | p3lim | well the code is too easy to be wrong |
| 02:02.30 | Arrowmaster | and your code is wrong |
| 02:02.42 | Arrowmaster | prematchesstring|table|nil |
| 02:02.53 | Arrowmaster | your using an empty string |
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| 02:04.18 | p3lim | you know how to use AceTab-3.0? |
| 02:06.41 | Arrowmaster | no im looking at the doc in the code |
| 02:09.58 | Arrowmaster | but it seems that an empty string is something to not use |
| 02:11.37 | p3lim | what string? |
| 02:12.23 | nymbia | second arg of :RegisterTabCompletion() |
| 02:12.59 | Arrowmaster | prematches string|table|nil |
| 02:13.04 | Arrowmaster | in the doc |
| 02:13.21 | Arrowmaster | the fact that nil is included indicates to not use an empty string is my guess |
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| 02:16.18 | p3lim | the regex after which this set will be considered (use "" for always consider). The string passed into the regex is the substring leading up to the word being completed. |
| 02:16.39 | p3lim | as there is no substring used, its blank |
| 02:17.11 | Ellipsis | did you *try* it with nil? |
| 02:17.30 | nymbia | i'll try YOU with nil! |
| 02:17.31 | nymbia | wait... |
| 02:17.37 | Ellipsis | no thanks |
| 02:17.44 | Ellipsis | nil is too small :3 |
| 02:17.50 | nymbia | harsh. |
| 02:18.39 | p3lim | nil actually works |
| 02:18.46 | Ellipsis | tada! the docs are wrong |
| 02:19.11 | nymbia | lies, all of it! |
| 02:19.17 | nymbia | docs are never wrong! |
| 02:19.29 | p3lim | docs were wrong |
| 02:19.43 | nymbia | yeah if that's a pattern match then it probably needs ".-" or something |
| 02:20.45 | p3lim | AceTab-3.0.lua:416: attempt to concatenate upvalue 'allGCBS' (a nil value) |
| 02:21.02 | nymbia | nice |
| 02:21.25 | Ellipsis | way to break it, p3lim |
| 02:21.40 | Shefki | All bugs are Ellipsis bugs. |
| 02:21.52 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 02:22.17 | Ellipsis | little known fact that I am the originator of all code that is buggy, broken, or misleadingly documented |
| 02:22.31 | Wobin | Damn you Ellipsis |
| 02:22.36 | Wobin | =( |
| 02:22.37 | p3lim | wow my addon worked |
| 02:22.37 | Ellipsis | I'm kind of like the anti-chuck norris of code |
| 02:22.43 | p3lim | but the print is blank |
| 02:23.03 | Ackis | @project cnf |
| 02:23.04 | Repo | Ackis: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cnf/. Chuck Norris Facts. Game: WoW. Leader: Ackis. Author: Lothaer. Updated: 35 hours ago |
| 02:23.12 | Ackis | hehehe |
| 02:24.06 | p3lim | Its very very buggy, but it works |
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| 02:24.55 | Arrowmaster | p3lim: where did you get that '(use "" for always consider)' from? |
| 02:25.28 | Arrowmaster | p3lim: because its not in the docs in the code |
| 02:25.29 | p3lim | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceTab-2.0 |
| 02:25.37 | Arrowmaster | ... |
| 02:25.40 | p3lim | docs in the code referred to those docs |
| 02:25.40 | Arrowmaster | thats 2.0 |
| 02:26.11 | p3lim | see line 65 in AceTab-3.0.lua |
| 02:26.17 | Arrowmaster | i see it |
| 02:26.29 | Arrowmaster | its then followed by more docs |
| 02:26.39 | Arrowmaster | dont know why that url is there |
| 02:26.49 | Arrowmaster | maybe its ment to be 3.0 |
| 02:27.13 | Ellipsis | probably just copypasta that someone forgot to edit |
| 02:27.53 | Arrowmaster | wtb faster server |
| 02:28.14 | Arrowmaster | 2.5 hours and svn import is only 25% done |
| 02:28.50 | p3lim | but youre right, I should have looked at the docs in the lua |
| 02:34.33 | Arrowmaster | nymbia: youre here right? |
| 02:35.57 | nymbia | yeah |
| 02:36.12 | Arrowmaster | wana drop +r from the channel for a few? CIA isnt in here |
| 02:43.18 | nymbia | hrm.. what's +r do? |
| 02:43.36 | Wobin | that's the one that prevents voice to unregestered nicks, right? |
| 02:43.54 | Arrowmaster | prevents unregistered nicks from joining the channel |
| 02:45.04 | *** mode/#wowace [-r] by nymbia |
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| 02:45.28 | Arrowmaster | you can set it back now |
| 02:45.29 | Arrowmaster | thanks |
| 02:45.40 | nymbia | kicks CIA-25 |
| 02:45.40 | CIA-25 | ow |
| 02:45.48 | *** mode/#wowace [+r] by nymbia |
| 02:46.15 | Arrowmaster | kicks CIA-25 |
| 02:46.16 | CIA-25 | ow |
| 02:46.23 | Arrowmaster | yeah it can still talk |
| 02:46.36 | nymbia | why is raritan so very bad |
| 02:55.18 | JoshBorke | why you say? |
| 02:55.23 | JoshBorke | raritan not so bad |
| 02:56.36 | nymbia | terrible |
| 02:57.09 | nymbia | of course, i happen to be using vmware infrastructure console through raritan through rdp through vpn |
| 02:57.27 | nymbia | but it's still pretty bad |
| 02:57.50 | JoshBorke | i say it's kvm over ip that is terrible |
| 02:58.38 | JoshBorke | that and you're going through vpn->rdp->http->vmware |
| 02:58.47 | nymbia | minor details |
| 02:58.55 | JoshBorke | you sir, are TERRIBLE! |
| 02:58.56 | JoshBorke | :P |
| 02:59.08 | JoshBorke | i hate that it doesn'ty work on my linux client :( |
| 02:59.30 | nymbia | it might just be our raritan hardware.. the cursor likes to jump to the corner of the screen and the screen likes to re-detect the resolution |
| 02:59.40 | JoshBorke | that's terrible |
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| 02:59.49 | JoshBorke | we don't have any problems liek that |
| 02:59.54 | JoshBorke | anyway, bed time. nn |
| 02:59.59 | nymbia | later |
| 03:00.48 | CIA-25 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * r3966958 10/ : Add warlock soul link module - http://is.gd/21B4 |
| 03:11.53 | CIA-25 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * r6bfda99 10/ : Readme updates - http://is.gd/21BP |
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| 05:09.56 | Groktar | the correct way to kill muru: http://www.guild-impulse.net/images/WoWScrnShot_082808_220400.jpg |
| 05:15.45 | VonhintenHOME` | hmm, having trouble connecting to Garona |
| 05:25.27 | Groktar | http://files.rabidwolf.org/images/warcraft/bosses/muru-cod.jpg |
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| 05:28.53 | Wobin | Groktar: what happened there? |
| 05:30.16 | Groktar | cod killed the boss when everyone was dead |
| 05:30.31 | Groktar | we didn't have ankhs or anything |
| 05:30.34 | Groktar | had to run back |
| 05:31.21 | Stanzilla | got loot? |
| 05:31.29 | Groktar | ya |
| 05:31.50 | Groktar | you can see the sparklies in that picture |
| 05:33.06 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: How do you configure keybinds in BT4 in beta? |
| 05:33.14 | Antiarc | I don't see any Bartender headers in the keybinds menu |
| 05:33.23 | Groktar | /kb |
| 05:33.27 | Groktar | maybe? |
| 05:35.10 | Antiarc | oh, that's nice |
| 05:35.18 | Groktar | work? |
| 05:35.50 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 05:41.06 | Groktar | pretty sure bt4 has the best keybind setup out there |
| 05:41.10 | Zhinjio | Antiarc: thanks for your help earlier, that method worked like a champ |
| 05:41.16 | Antiarc | Woo |
| 05:41.19 | Zhinjio | its *as good as* storing a value reference |
| 05:41.43 | Antiarc | I'm streaming beta again, going to try to do CoT Strath -> http://www.xfire.com/live_video/antiarc/ |
| 05:43.15 | Groktar | sure you wouldn't rather powerlevel my dk? |
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| 05:46.24 | [SW]Dodge | is there a way to get a list of the cooldowns that are resettet after zonechange? like prowl and blink? |
| 05:46.53 | Groktar | i know psychic scream is one |
| 05:47.03 | Groktar | it's pro for zoning in and out |
| 05:47.04 | syeren | Misery: Causes spells cast at the target to have +3% spell hit. |
| 05:47.09 | syeren | Kekee |
| 05:47.34 | Groktar | ya, spriests nerfed into the ground with this |
| 05:47.50 | Arrowmaster | thats an uber buff |
| 05:47.59 | Groktar | who's not hit capped? |
| 05:48.04 | [SW]Dodge | this new(?) feature buggs my addon :S |
| 05:48.08 | Keias | antiarc do you use pidgin? |
| 05:48.13 | Groktar | shadow weaving is also self only |
| 05:48.13 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 05:48.22 | Keias | It was messing with me! |
| 05:48.29 | Keias | I'm watching the steam and I'm wonder who's setting off my highlights lol |
| 05:48.50 | Keias | wondering* |
| 05:49.07 | Groktar | the vt change is HUGE tho |
| 05:49.17 | Groktar | it shouldn't cause any threat to the priest |
| 05:49.18 | syeren | Problem is. |
| 05:49.24 | syeren | Shadow Priests have capped DPS. |
| 05:49.28 | syeren | This makes it even worse :< |
| 05:49.30 | Antiarc | Oh, haha |
| 05:49.33 | Antiarc | You all hear pidgen |
| 05:49.49 | Groktar | do you mean threat capped? this should help it a lot |
| 05:49.52 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: wow xfire sucks, you use a widescreen res dont you |
| 05:49.53 | syeren | No. |
| 05:49.55 | syeren | DPS Capped. |
| 05:49.59 | Antiarc | Yes, 1920x1200 |
| 05:50.16 | syeren | Impossible for a Shadow Priest to do over X DPS regardless of gear :p |
| 05:50.26 | Groktar | uh |
| 05:50.32 | Arrowmaster | quality sucks, make your chat font larger |
| 05:50.32 | Groktar | would like to see math on that |
| 05:50.39 | Antiarc | It's as big as it goes |
| 05:50.45 | Arrowmaster | still sucks |
| 05:50.51 | syeren | Ask any of your guild's Shadow Priests ;p |
| 05:51.18 | Groktar | priests should be able to swd and mb every cooldown now |
| 05:51.20 | Arrowmaster | still hard to read |
| 05:51.29 | Arrowmaster | try using a blockyer font |
| 05:51.37 | Groktar | won't have to put up swp |
| 05:51.46 | Groktar | all the time |
| 05:52.05 | Groktar | they really should make flay crit tho... |
| 05:52.20 | syeren | Thing is. |
| 05:52.26 | syeren | Blizzard are idiotic. |
| 05:52.34 | syeren | And nerfed Shadow Priest DPS to nerf Warlock DPS. |
| 05:52.39 | syeren | Instead of nerfing Warlock DPS. |
| 05:52.46 | syeren | All that time ago :p |
| 05:52.56 | Groktar | kind of had to fix crazy multipliers to fix warlock dps |
| 05:53.16 | syeren | I mean yeah Shadow Priests are still awesome, but kind of harsh to reduce their DPS potential even more with their debuffs :p |
| 05:54.01 | Groktar | blizzard has said they haven't done any balancing as far as comparing one class' dps to another |
| 05:54.23 | syeren | I don't care about what Blizzard say. |
| 05:54.36 | syeren | Kalgan said Mages had the best DPS in TBC, that it was "Jaw Dropping." |
| 05:54.41 | syeren | Shows how clueless their devs are ;p |
| 05:54.57 | Arrowmaster | "This is stratholme numb nuts" |
| 05:55.12 | Keias | rofl |
| 05:55.44 | Arrowmaster | and he copied it but now wont paste it because i already said it |
| 05:56.50 | Groktar | mage dps was so amazing they had to nerf the coefficient on imp fireball and imp frostbolt |
| 05:56.51 | Groktar | :D |
| 05:57.27 | syeren | :P |
| 05:57.30 | Arrowmaster | they did the same thing to affliction warlocks |
| 05:57.35 | Arrowmaster | before we even got to TBC! |
| 05:57.45 | Groktar | afflic locks would have been retarded |
| 05:57.52 | Groktar | dot dot dot run away |
| 05:57.52 | Arrowmaster | and now were completely gimped as affliction |
| 05:58.10 | Wraithan | those who were speculating about 3.0 on PTR |
| 05:58.10 | Wobin | this voice thing in quests is kinda cool |
| 05:58.15 | Wraithan | around the 8th |
| 05:58.17 | Wraithan | of sept |
| 05:58.49 | Groktar | what is Horn of Winter? |
| 05:58.58 | Wraithan | right around blizcon should be 3.0 live if it does well on PTR |
| 05:59.59 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: whats the blue buff? |
| 06:00.10 | Antiarc | Path of Frost |
| 06:00.12 | Antiarc | DK water walking |
| 06:00.30 | Wobin | strath looks so cool |
| 06:00.51 | syeren | Has anyone here ever used or heard of Netvibes.com? |
| 06:00.56 | syeren | It's pretty awesome :> |
| 06:00.57 | Antiarc | Heard of, yes |
| 06:01.13 | Antiarc | hahah |
| 06:01.16 | Antiarc | This dk has 22k HP |
| 06:01.33 | Wobin | oh man, this is vicious |
| 06:01.37 | Groktar | doesn't seem impressive for 80 at all |
| 06:01.38 | Wobin | poor stratholme |
| 06:02.43 | Wobin | did malganys just flip the zombie switch? |
| 06:03.01 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 06:03.34 | CIA-25 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * rd6bfe69 10/ modules/PaladinBlessings.lua : Add solo/party/bg options to pally blessing module, pretty up it's config - http://is.gd/21NO |
| 06:04.35 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: stop 2shoting everything |
| 06:05.45 | CIA-25 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * r5a4d4ad 10/ README.textile : Update readme screenies - http://is.gd/21O4 |
| 06:09.18 | CIA-25 | 03dodge * r81090 10CoolDownButtons/Modules/Cooldown_Manager.lua: |
| 06:09.18 | CIA-25 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 06:09.18 | CIA-25 | - fixded "Cooldown ready" spam after a loadingscreen if Pulse effect is enabled (now removing cooldowns <= 5seconds on loadingscreen) |
| 06:12.54 | [SW]Dodge | someone here who hosted his addon on wowi? |
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| 06:13.26 | [SW]Dodge | i cant selecte a category for uploading |
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| 06:17.27 | CIA-25 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * ra2c67a8 10/ : More new screenies - http://is.gd/21OE |
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| 06:19.15 | CIA-25 | 03zhinjio * r81091 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLFrame.lua AckisRecipeList.lua Locals/ARLLocals-enUS.lua): |
| 06:19.15 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 06:19.15 | CIA-25 | - newgui : reset button now works |
| 06:19.15 | CIA-25 | - newgui : frame title now works |
| 06:19.34 | Wobin | gah |
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| 06:19.47 | Wobin | I keep wanting to mouse around to change the view in Anti's screen |
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| 06:20.15 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 06:21.19 | Wobin | almost 400 swords! |
| 06:22.08 | Wobin | times like this I wish blizzard used the sort of exposed irc channels that funcom do |
| 06:23.11 | Arrowmaster | agreed |
| 06:24.18 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: WHAT BROOD COLOR IS IT! |
| 06:25.04 | Wobin | I really like the spell particle effects |
| 06:25.21 | Wobin | wtb moonkin ring =( |
| 06:25.25 | Keias | lol |
| 06:25.32 | Keias | Whole moonkin set soon |
| 06:25.36 | Wobin | <3 |
| 06:25.43 | Wobin | good thing I'm levelling a moonkin! |
| 06:25.49 | Wobin | suddenly we're viable =P |
| 06:26.04 | Wobin | and here I was thinking I was levelling up an offspec =P |
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| 06:27.19 | sokeravia | Does anyone have a second to answer a couple questions I've run into with AceComm? |
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| 06:27.32 | nevcairiel | less moonkin, more xparky! :P |
| 06:28.05 | nevcairiel | sokeravia: sure just ask |
| 06:28.20 | Wraithan | yall were all discussing when 3.0 was going to hit PTR, then I mention more concrete times and no one says anything, sadness |
| 06:28.57 | Arrowmaster | were busy watching Antiarc stab things |
| 06:29.08 | Groktar | devours Arrowmaster's soul |
| 06:29.13 | nevcairiel | any concrete time is a bet and as good as any other =P |
| 06:29.19 | Groktar | becomes violently ill |
| 06:29.25 | Groktar | vomits on nevcairiel's shoes |
| 06:29.31 | Wraithan | Well mine is from a blizard source |
| 06:29.41 | Wraithan | unlike most of the speculation I was reading |
| 06:30.08 | Wraithan | 3.0 on PTR is targeted at the 8th |
| 06:30.33 | sokeravia | Well, I'm trying to send a message to a 'CUSTOM' distribution when the player logs in or out, but it doesn't get seen by another user whose addon should be listening to the same distribution. |
| 06:31.06 | sokeravia | I'm also using 'WHISPER' for some other events and those are getting sent/received fine. |
| 06:31.10 | Arrowmaster | sokeravia: define 'CUSTOM' |
| 06:31.24 | nevcairiel | eww AceComm-2 .. -3 doesnt have custom anymore |
| 06:31.38 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 06:31.38 | Zhinjio | custom channels suck |
| 06:31.41 | CIA-25 | 03wobin * r81092 10Xparky/Bar.lua: |
| 06:31.41 | CIA-25 | Xparky - started hooking variables directly to the SV so that change is inevitable. |
| 06:31.41 | CIA-25 | Also, going home. |
| 06:31.41 | CIA-25 | ~lart nevcairiel |
| 06:31.41 | purl | whips nevcairiel with a wet and grimy noodle just because |
| 06:31.49 | nevcairiel | \o/ |
| 06:32.06 | Wobin | bbiab |
| 06:32.15 | sokeravia | yeah, I'm starting to get that impression :) should I just switch everything to 3 then? |
| 06:32.25 | Arrowmaster | umm yes |
| 06:32.31 | Arrowmaster | since 3 went beta |
| 06:32.33 | Groktar | lol antiarc |
| 06:32.36 | Groktar | headshot! |
| 06:32.38 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: PWNT |
| 06:32.57 | Groktar | SOMEONE NEEDS THREATMETERS! |
| 06:33.20 | Arrowmaster | he has it up |
| 06:33.33 | Groktar | gogo ghoul form |
| 06:34.46 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: YOU CANT /SAY WHILE DEAD! |
| 06:34.54 | Antiarc | I WAS UNDEAD |
| 06:34.57 | Groktar | so it's not his time? |
| 06:34.59 | Arrowmaster | haha |
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| 06:35.24 | Groktar | omg lewts |
| 06:35.42 | Groktar | new offhand for you? it looked like 1.6s, but i can't tell |
| 06:35.57 | Antiarc | It's a 2H |
| 06:36.07 | Groktar | so definitely not 1.6s then |
| 06:36.11 | Arrowmaster | i saw red |
| 06:36.19 | Arrowmaster | knew it was 2hd |
| 06:36.22 | Antiarc | 3.4 speed, 60 str, 102 sta, 68 hit |
| 06:36.24 | Arrowmaster | or an axe |
| 06:36.25 | Groktar | durp |
| 06:37.56 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: your mace is too big |
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| 06:39.18 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: lol did they seriously lock it up like normal strat? |
| 06:39.28 | Antiarc | seems so |
| 06:39.38 | Arrowmaster | back door? |
| 06:40.12 | Antiarc | I didn't see anything |
| 06:43.00 | sokeravia | Do you guys know if someone is already working on a library for custom chat channel distributions with AceComm-3? Is it generally just a really bad idea? Should I be slapping myself for this? :) |
| 06:43.10 | Arrowmaster | sokeravia: bad idea |
| 06:44.46 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: 62 DK ok? |
| 06:44.57 | Antiarc | No >_> |
| 06:45.03 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 06:45.31 | nevcairiel | I should go do some instancing |
| 06:45.33 | Arrowmaster | well my warlock is 70 but horde, and i havent even bothered to transfer yet |
| 06:45.39 | sokeravia | The only other way I can think to accomplish it would involve a lot of whisper level messages and that seems sub-optimal too....oh well, back to the old drawing board I guess... |
| 06:46.19 | Aeyan | Text is readable in the black box, not so much in the edit box |
| 06:46.40 | Arrowmaster | sokeravia: you can use custom channels if you want but youll have to do it all yourself, AceComm-3.0 wont help |
| 06:47.59 | Arrowmaster | sokeravia: but its generally a bad idea unless you really need to, which is why AceComm-3.0 doesnt handle it, its far too complex for the very limited uses |
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| 06:50.18 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: teleport npc? |
| 06:50.22 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 06:51.04 | Arrowmaster | oh is the zone outside it not open? |
| 06:51.15 | Antiarc | It's in Storm Peaks, and they had the NPC there for a while |
| 06:51.23 | Antiarc | Storm Peaks has been closed again :( |
| 06:51.29 | Arrowmaster | like i said |
| 06:51.31 | nevcairiel | Really? Why? |
| 06:51.38 | Arrowmaster | 62 DK, and i havent transfered my warlock yet |
| 06:51.45 | Arrowmaster | havent seen darlan |
| 06:51.46 | Antiarc | I don't know |
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| 06:53.07 | Daemona | they closed storm peaks again? when did that happen? |
| 06:53.21 | nevcairiel | according to the forums, yesterday =P |
| 06:53.40 | Daemona | i've been playing on storm peaks since like 16 hours ago ... |
| 06:53.50 | kadrahil | that's a long shift of wow |
| 06:53.52 | Antiarc | US |
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| 06:57.32 | nevcairiel | 0 players in storm peaks on EU realms, i bet its closed too |
| 06:58.33 | Daemona | i booted linux already on my gaming rig to do some rendering over the weekend while i am gone... cant check atm |
| 06:58.57 | Daemona | kadrahil whoops ;) i slept 7 hours of that |
| 06:59.00 | sokeravia | Thanks for the help everyone. I'm going to see if I can accomplish something similar with addon whispers and, if not, oh well it was a fun idea while it lasted. :) |
| 06:59.17 | Daemona | (9am over here) |
| 06:59.58 | nocts | So how many of the more popular mods are split between wotlk compatible and "only works with wotlk"? |
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| 07:01.20 | dodga | WTF.. Blizz is now removing the Priest class!? |
| 07:01.35 | VonhintenHOME` | lolwut |
| 07:02.07 | dodga | Changing Misery to +Hit |
| 07:02.07 | Ellipsis | good riddance I say |
| 07:02.15 | dodga | Ellipsis: diaf. :P |
| 07:02.18 | VonhintenHOME` | wutlol |
| 07:02.20 | Ellipsis | ;) |
| 07:02.24 | dodga | The list on MMO is ridiculous |
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| 07:02.37 | VonhintenHOME` | wlolut |
| 07:02.58 | Ellipsis | lowlut? |
| 07:03.00 | dodga | Every class is listed multiple times, except priests. And they only do +3% Hit (instead of +5% spell damage) and PW:F/DS |
| 07:03.12 | dodga | meh, screw this, ain't got time for this faggotry :P |
| 07:03.15 | Ellipsis | they're also mana batteries ;P |
| 07:03.23 | dodga | Ellipsis: Like 2 other classes |
| 07:03.28 | dodga | Ah, whatev |
| 07:03.29 | Ellipsis | also divine spirit |
| 07:03.35 | VonhintenHOME` | you've got plenty of time for this here faggotry |
| 07:03.41 | Ellipsis | oh you listed that |
| 07:03.42 | Ellipsis | can't read |
| 07:03.43 | Aeyan | Jeebus, yes, a misery nerf is exactly what we need. |
| 07:04.03 | nocts | Enjoy your broken games, qq newbs, I'll be enjoying the new MMO: nethack |
| 07:04.07 | Aeyan | After the shadow weaving nerf, and the VT nerf, and the shadow power nerf, and the... |
| 07:04.10 | dodga | Ellipsis: Divine Spirit is changed to +6% spellpower of total spirit, down from 10%?(dunno exact numbers) |
| 07:04.28 | dodga | Aeyan: Maybe we'll get Touch of Death or what that thing is called that Archimonde does |
| 07:04.31 | nocts | How is going from 6% to 10% down? |
| 07:04.31 | VonhintenHOME` | I'll be pwning n00bs in Warhammer |
| 07:04.38 | dodga | nocts: Other way |
| 07:04.39 | nocts | dodga: hand of Death |
| 07:04.48 | Ellipsis | dodga: with all the spirit buffs these days I bet that works out about even :P |
| 07:05.11 | dodga | Oh my bad |
| 07:05.15 | dodga | Spirit does 5% on live |
| 07:05.16 | Aeyan | Shadow Weaving: Buffs only self. |
| 07:05.17 | Aeyan | Bahaha |
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| 07:05.22 | dodga | WOW we have 1% more in LK |
| 07:05.22 | Aeyan | Well holy shit |
| 07:05.29 | dodga | I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE :> |
| 07:05.29 | Ellipsis | screw their shadowpriest/warlock synergy nerfs |
| 07:05.30 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 07:05.46 | dodga | I need pants. |
| 07:06.09 | Lukian | Ellipsis, I assume they'll buff the base dps in line with having the other buff active? :p |
| 07:06.26 | dodga | Lukian: I won't bet my ass on that one |
| 07:06.28 | VonhintenHOME` | lol, "you no longer need to rigidly control the melee/spellcaster balance of your raid<snip>" |
| 07:06.28 | Arrowmaster | nocts: you better not have been dissing nethack |
| 07:06.31 | Aeyan | With survival hunters and ret pallys now, why bother with the shadow priest. |
| 07:06.44 | Aeyan | Misery and shadow weaving benefit no one with that new system. |
| 07:06.49 | VonhintenHOME` | riiiight, cause melee will stop getting wtf pwned by cleaves and other shit that makes their life more difficult |
| 07:06.49 | dodga | E.g. Mages and Warlocks are pure DPS classes, they should always deal more damage than a hybrid, IMHO |
| 07:06.54 | Aeyan | And our scaling is terrible |
| 07:07.04 | dodga | And now they remove nearly all utility from Shadow Priests |
| 07:07.07 | nocts | Arrowmaster: I wasn't, but it was still a mediocre game. |
| 07:07.10 | Aeyan | They totally did. |
| 07:07.15 | Arrowmaster | nocts: lies |
| 07:07.19 | dodga | They'd have to raise our DPS equally to Mages/Locks or even above |
| 07:07.23 | Aeyan | Damn, I mean, damn. |
| 07:07.31 | dodga | Otherwise no sane raid leader would take a Shadow then :o |
| 07:07.38 | steev | dodga: get your ass to the back and heal bitch |
| 07:08.04 | dodga | But okay, we could assume that even when stacking +hit with gear, enchants and gems that you lack enough +hit that justifies a Shadow then... |
| 07:08.24 | dodga | steev: Oh I will, but your sorry ass won't get more than Shield Rank 1, even if it costs me more mana :P |
| 07:08.34 | steev | dodga: meh, im ret :-P |
| 07:08.38 | Arrowmaster | 3% hit is huge if you can count on always have the buff |
| 07:08.50 | Arrowmaster | otherwise most would probably gear to the cap |
| 07:08.53 | Arrowmaster | and it would be useless |
| 07:08.54 | dodga | So? Your OOM, can't heal yourself and don't do DPS :P |
| 07:09.11 | steev | jow, kthxbai |
| 07:09.28 | Aeyan | I believe the 5% would be more useful to the general populace |
| 07:09.30 | dodga | Yeah tell me how that worked out for you :D |
| 07:09.51 | Aeyan | Not to mention that it's also a 5% reduction in the shadow priest's damage, as well as all other DPS casters |
| 07:10.20 | steev | thats assuming i get to go anywhere on my ret |
| 07:10.30 | steev | i am mostly stuck taking my shaman to ZA+ |
| 07:10.56 | steev | cuz he stands in the back and heals :-P |
| 07:11.11 | steev | although i pulled a leeroy today on the dragonhawk boss |
| 07:11.32 | steev | hunter was droning on and on, on vent about how important aviation jobs are |
| 07:11.38 | steev | so i was like fuck it, im starting this |
| 07:11.38 | Aeyan | Oh snap, I just read farther into it |
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| 07:12.06 | Aeyan | The VT mana return is generic now and doesn't stack with survival hunters and ret pallies that provide the same effect |
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| 07:12.25 | Aeyan | It's just a straight up 0.5% of the person's mana per tick |
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| 07:12.43 | Aeyan | Yeah, shadow priests are dead with those changes unless changed. |
| 07:13.08 | dodga | ahahaha that is nice |
| 07:13.14 | dodga | the mana goes to the ones with the lowest mana |
| 07:13.24 | dodga | so it goes to the oompally all the time :D |
| 07:13.36 | Aeyan | Yeah, awesomeness. |
| 07:13.40 | dodga | Ah well |
| 07:14.01 | Groktar | it's per second -- so if the person has 12k mana they're getting 300mp5, vs a 1400dps spriest giving then 350mp5 on live |
| 07:14.35 | VonhintenHOME` | they don't mention if those stack |
| 07:14.38 | dodga | I think raiding might be fun in LK for some specs. All other specs are royally screwed and should reroll DK. I guess that's the message :D |
| 07:14.48 | dodga | VonhintenHOME`: They don't |
| 07:15.16 | VonhintenHOME` | So if there's 10 people with the buff, 10 more can't get it from a second priest/pally/hunter? |
| 07:15.34 | dodga | hm okay it doesn't state that it doesn't stack, but they said it multiple times, though it might change |
| 07:15.53 | dodga | VonhintenHOME`: Oh, yeah those without the buff, probably can get it |
| 07:16.21 | dodga | Actually, if player A triggers the buff I guess he has an internal cooldown, so you HAVE to bring another replenishment trigger player |
| 07:16.27 | Ellipsis | when choosing its targets, does it ignore those who already have the buff? |
| 07:16.30 | VonhintenHOME` | so, I wonder if the next round of 10 will automatically pick from the list of people without the buff |
| 07:16.32 | Groktar | which would make sense, since they said there wouldn't be a point to more than two mana batteries |
| 07:16.34 | Aeyan | But more to the point, a level 37 ret provides the same mana return as the shadow priest now. |
| 07:16.37 | dodga | it just doesn't have to be a shadow anymore |
| 07:16.39 | Ellipsis | or will it try (and fail) to apply on them if they're still OOM |
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| 07:17.02 | dodga | Ellipsis: I guess those who have the buff won't get a second one until it expires |
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| 07:17.06 | Wobin | What would be useful is if you could select who the mana regen goes to |
| 07:17.16 | VonhintenHOME` | depends on which is the priority Low-Mana or Does-Not-Have-Buff-Already |
| 07:17.17 | Wobin | like you cast the spell then click on X number of targets |
| 07:17.17 | dodga | Which would be stupid, because OOM healer might still be OOM after the buff |
| 07:17.28 | Aeyan | This kills the shadow priest because they already fall far behind other DPS classes in high end raiding due to the way DoT's scale (which I'm sure any warlock who wanted to be affliction can also tell you) |
| 07:17.37 | Groktar | ypi |
| 07:17.47 | Groktar | you're assuming they're doing nothing to buff spriest dps |
| 07:17.53 | Aeyan | Unless they do some more serious mechanics changes, shadow priests bring nothing. |
| 07:17.56 | dodga | Wobin: Mana -> Healers, Mana -> highest caster DPS, Mana no go to crap DPS or Hunters :> |
| 07:17.59 | Aeyan | You're right, I am |
| 07:18.04 | VonhintenHOME` | they'll bring them to where they should be, in their mind |
| 07:18.14 | dodga | Groktar: Until now, they didn't, shadows just received nerfs and the finger |
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| 07:18.18 | Wobin | dodga: is that the actual implementation or what you'd like |
| 07:18.19 | Aeyan | But it's more than just a +dmg effect needed to bring shadow priest DPS in line and still make it work |
| 07:18.40 | dodga | Wobin: The current implementation is: Mana goes to everybody in your group, so the raid lead decides |
| 07:18.46 | Aeyan | DoT's scale bad compared to nukes |
| 07:18.52 | dodga | Wobin: The future implementation is: Mana goes to those with low mana "smart" |
| 07:18.59 | Wobin | well that's what I mean |
| 07:19.00 | Aeyan | Give shadow priests some spammable nukes and it might be different |
| 07:19.09 | dodga | If it's as smart as the RNG that decides whats drops, it'll suck :> |
| 07:19.11 | Aeyan | It changes the class, but eh |
| 07:19.12 | Wobin | if the caster has the choice of where the buffs go, it'd make more sense |
| 07:19.24 | dodga | Wobin: Oh, yeah, it would |
| 07:19.31 | VonhintenHOME` | The more I think about healing hybrids, the more I like the way Warhammer is doing it |
| 07:19.35 | VonhintenHOME` | healer do damage to heal |
| 07:19.52 | dodga | Vampiric Embrace |
| 07:20.01 | dodga | But don't mention it to Blizz |
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| 07:20.09 | dodga | It might get nerfed or removed altogether :> |
| 07:20.15 | VonhintenHOME` | that was never a real heal |
| 07:20.45 | dodga | VonhintenHOME`: It is nice, of course it ain't Super Heal Rank 10, but it is better than healing stream totem :> |
| 07:20.51 | VonhintenHOME` | and in fact, most people that could do good DPS didn't even use it due to the agro it generates |
| 07:21.19 | VonhintenHOME` | healign stream totem is a waste of mana |
| 07:22.19 | Aeyan | Vamp is tricky business, hehe |
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| 07:22.48 | Aeyan | In 5 and 10 man content, the only time I can get away with it is if my very well geared pally friend is AE tanking and the raid/party isn't taking TOO much damage. |
| 07:23.01 | VonhintenHOME` | exactly |
| 07:23.04 | Aeyan | Otherwise, oh my goodness the threat goodness |
| 07:24.28 | dodga | I just put it up and tell the tank to stfu and do more threat :P |
| 07:24.34 | dodga | If he fails I blame him :P |
| 07:24.42 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 07:25.14 | Aeyan | Misery change might be worthwhile with a few big IFs tagged onto it |
| 07:25.16 | VonhintenHOME` | A sp pouring it on would out threat a high threat druid :) |
| 07:25.48 | Aeyan | IF you're in a raid and IF the spell hit cap in WotLK is massive and IF gear doesn't provide the same level of +hit as TBC gear |
| 07:26.00 | Aeyan | I think I'd probably prefer the blanket 5% damage, you know? |
| 07:26.01 | dodga | Aeyan: Reduce the cooldown on Mind Blast, increase the coefficient on Mind Flay, make VE generate less threat and I'll stfu :> |
| 07:26.40 | Aeyan | Well, that post has crushed my spirit for the moment =P |
| 07:26.42 | Aeyan | We'll see |
| 07:26.43 | VonhintenHOME` | You guys need something that makes spell crit worth acquiring |
| 07:26.51 | VonhintenHOME` | Because right now, spell damage and haste are it |
| 07:26.54 | VonhintenHOME` | and that sucks |
| 07:27.04 | dodga | But then again, if they nerf priests that hard I just might have enough time to become worlds greatest womanizer |
| 07:27.14 | dodga | But now, off to work! :P l8 dudes |
| 07:27.26 | VonhintenHOME` | Seeing high tier SP's still wearing frozen shadowweave, because it's the best for the slot, is broken |
| 07:27.26 | Blime | Beginning Oct. 1, Comcast users will be allowed 250 gigabytes of traffic per month. |
| 07:27.32 | Blime | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26444853/ |
| 07:27.45 | Aeyan | Bam! |
| 07:29.58 | VonhintenHOME` | 250 gigs a month is a fucking lot |
| 07:30.16 | VonhintenHOME` | If you use anywhere near that much, you're downloading shit you probably shouldn't be |
| 07:30.37 | Blime | I agree. |
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| 07:31.57 | VonhintenHOME` | I still can't fucking log into Garona |
| 07:32.14 | VonhintenHOME` | whole dallas server center is unreachable |
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| 07:32.57 | CIA-25 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * r3e2a510 10/ modules/DeathKnight.lua : Add Path of Frost to DKs - http://is.gd/21Tw |
| 07:32.57 | Adirelle|work | acetimer3 question : is registering and unregistering a timer very often enough time consuming so that I'd better use a flag to return at start of my handler ? |
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| 07:38.12 | cladhaire | if you're doing that, why not make it a recurring timer? |
| 07:39.43 | CIA-25 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * r2ecd988 10/ : Fix macro generator on live - http://is.gd/21TI |
| 07:40.30 | Adirelle|work | cladhaire: actually it's a kind of bucket, bue acebucket-3.0 only handles AceEvent-3.0 events and messages, not any callback |
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| 07:40.50 | Adirelle|work | -bue +but |
| 07:40.52 | cladhaire | Then make your own custom timer/bucket that does what you want |
| 07:41.02 | cladhaire | it'll be the fastest, and the cleanest most likely |
| 07:41.53 | Adirelle|work | it's clearly a situation where several triggers lead to one handler |
| 07:42.15 | Adirelle|work | I hesitate between a timer and using a onupdate to process at the next update |
| 07:42.33 | [Ammo] | what's the difference between a timer and an onupdate |
| 07:42.43 | [Ammo] | rethoric question right there btw |
| 07:42.46 | cladhaire | triggering an update via onupdate is O(1) |
| 07:42.55 | cladhaire | AceTimer is.. more expensive |
| 07:43.05 | [Ammo] | it is for that use indeed |
| 07:43.16 | Adirelle|work | onupdate would be "on every frame", a timer could have a lower rate |
| 07:43.26 | cladhaire | ... |
| 07:43.29 | [Ammo] | not true |
| 07:43.30 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 07:43.30 | cladhaire | no |
| 07:43.33 | cladhaire | you're doing it wrong. |
| 07:43.39 | cladhaire | you have a frame, that does something OnUpdatye |
| 07:43.40 | cladhaire | hidden |
| 07:43.45 | cladhaire | when your trigger hits, show that frame |
| 07:43.55 | cladhaire | you can easily bucket it so you don't re-show it within x seconds |
| 07:44.00 | cladhaire | done! |
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| 07:44.53 | Adirelle|work | the processing can be triggered by : UNIT_AURA(STATE), target/focus changes of player or any raid member, UNIT_HEALTH, and _AURA related combat log events |
| 07:45.04 | cladhaire | yes, that doesn't change any of what has already been said |
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| 07:46.01 | Adirelle|work | I'm not sure the processing must happen on every frame after such an event occurs or I should limit the rate |
| 07:46.05 | cladhaire | its very difficult for me to believe that you're not making this more complicated than it needs to be |
| 07:46.12 | cladhaire | Yes, I undertsand that |
| 07:46.22 | cladhaire | but doing it this way, you chance a single variable to "decide" that |
| 07:46.27 | Arrowmaster | so i started loading this svn dump around 8pm, its now almost 4am and its still going.... |
| 07:46.46 | cladhaire | Arrowmaster: ow |
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| 07:46.59 | Arrowmaster | and its just a little over half way |
| 07:47.23 | cladhaire | what load? |
| 07:47.28 | Arrowmaster | 600Mhz P3s suck |
| 07:47.33 | cladhaire | heh |
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| 07:48.02 | VonhintenHOME` | probably the IO that's slowing you down, not the CPU |
| 07:48.54 | Arrowmaster | load average: 1.81, 1.31, 1.21 |
| 07:49.03 | cladhaire | Adirelle|work: If you don' understand, I can clarify.. but what you're asking for is a trivial bit |
| 07:49.45 | Arrowmaster | well im piping the output of bzcat into svnadmin, together they seem to be using all the cpu time |
| 07:49.48 | Adirelle|work | cladhaire: I know it is trivial, the question is not "how to do it" but "how often to have fresh enough data without having a to heavy CPU load" |
| 07:50.01 | cladhaire | ... experiment? |
| 07:50.03 | cladhaire | no one can tell you that |
| 07:50.20 | cladhaire | and if you code it like I told you to.. those experiments will take you 2 minutes to run |
| 07:50.33 | cladhaire | also why are you worrying about CPY load |
| 07:50.44 | cladhaire | worry about the addon doing what it needs to do when it needs to do it.. |
| 07:50.58 | cladhaire | if someone needs the update immediately (like a health update) then don't throttle it |
| 07:51.08 | cladhaire | if its something merely informative but not combat sensitive.. then you can delay it |
| 07:51.19 | cladhaire | and put a slider in so they can set the throttle for their own performance |
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| 07:51.28 | cladhaire | hell, write a heuristic to guess what the best value for a given framerate is |
| 07:51.38 | Adirelle|work | cladhaire: actually it concerns health update and aura refreshing |
| 07:51.52 | cladhaire | Then the question has nothign to do with CPU load |
| 07:51.55 | Arrowmaster | for aura updating, any throttle is good |
| 07:51.58 | cladhaire | it has to do with when the information needs to be avaialble |
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| 07:53.20 | cladhaire | and again, if there's a concern pick a conservative value and add a slider to your config |
| 07:53.21 | Adirelle|work | it will scan designated unit auras and health and update timer bar accordingly, but I only need to scan the aura once every frame |
| 07:53.25 | Adirelle|work | if I ever had some reason to do so, like being told something changed by UNIT_AURA |
| 07:54.17 | Adirelle|work | you convinced me, I'll try with a slider ^^ |
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| 08:06.03 | cladhaire | So whats better for a PVP healer, a 2h BG weapon, or a 1h/oh pair of BG weapons? |
| 08:07.52 | [Ammo] | 1h oh |
| 08:08.01 | Xinhuan | crystal spire |
| 08:08.12 | [Ammo] | talking pally though |
| 08:08.24 | [Ammo] | I like a sword and board |
| 08:08.25 | VonhintenHOME` | Did they change block value in Beta so that each 2pts of Str = 1 Block value? |
| 08:08.26 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 08:08.51 | cladhaire | I'm talking druid |
| 08:08.54 | cladhaire | since I intend to be a healer |
| 08:08.56 | [Ammo] | go for a staff |
| 08:09.04 | [Ammo] | tsk :p |
| 08:09.08 | [Ammo] | I don't have a healer druid yet |
| 08:09.14 | cladhaire | well, the spellblade and the gavel are both 225 spell power |
| 08:09.14 | [Ammo] | my bear is level 48 :) |
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| 08:09.18 | cladhaire | so i'm not losing anything there |
| 08:09.23 | cladhaire | the spellblade has +hit |
| 08:09.26 | cladhaire | the gavel has more sta/int |
| 08:09.31 | cladhaire | so I'll go with the healing gear |
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| 08:10.18 | [Ammo] | my awesome druid: http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Wellhung |
| 08:10.24 | Kalroth | haha |
| 08:10.40 | Kalroth | night elf :( |
| 08:10.46 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 08:11.34 | cladhaire | Does look like ther eis a 2h healing staff |
| 08:11.39 | cladhaire | just a 2h caster staff |
| 08:11.55 | nevcairiel | only arena healing you get is the 1h mace + oh |
| 08:12.07 | cladhaire | not arena, bg |
| 08:12.10 | cladhaire | but same i suppose :P |
| 08:12.30 | nevcairiel | yeah, except that you are 2 seasons behind on items =P |
| 08:12.55 | cladhaire | I'm fine with that :P |
| 08:13.13 | cladhaire | I have 4/5 of the pvp rep gear |
| 08:13.15 | cladhaire | which is gimp as shit |
| 08:13.18 | cladhaire | but gives me a good start |
| 08:13.27 | cladhaire | considering all i equipped when I leveled were quest rewards :P |
| 08:13.28 | nevcairiel | i have that with my warrior |
| 08:13.30 | nevcairiel | its so bad |
| 08:13.44 | cladhaire | and I ran a whole two dungeons from 60-70 |
| 08:13.50 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 08:13.54 | nevcairiel | sounds like my lock! |
| 08:14.06 | cladhaire | well 145 res, is 145 more than I had |
| 08:14.22 | nevcairiel | ya its a good start |
| 08:14.38 | cladhaire | I have to keep looking at the wotlk stats |
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| 08:14.41 | nevcairiel | get the honor-arena-s2 equip, and you are in a good starting position |
| 08:14.46 | cladhaire | to make sure i dont lose out between the caster/healing gear |
| 08:14.55 | cladhaire | s2 was merciless? |
| 08:15.16 | cladhaire | !c draoi ravencrest |
| 08:15.23 | cladhaire | WoWLuaircBot: help? |
| 08:15.25 | cladhaire | jackass |
| 08:15.39 | nevcairiel | yea merciless |
| 08:15.44 | nevcairiel | 3 is vengeful and 4 brutal |
| 08:15.45 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 08:15.55 | cladhaire | look at my SWEET gear |
| 08:15.55 | cladhaire | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Draoi |
| 08:16.00 | cladhaire | speciall the weapons |
| 08:16.18 | nevcairiel | hah |
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| 08:16.42 | syeren | Pretty sure more Druids have been made in the duration of TBC than there has been Shamans / Paladins. |
| 08:16.47 | syeren | I bet Blizzard are proud. |
| 08:16.49 | nevcairiel | btw why look at the wotlk stats? Isnt it in the BC stats more obvious which is healer? =P |
| 08:17.04 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: well no |
| 08:17.14 | cladhaire | because some of the gear got changed quite a bit |
| 08:17.22 | [Ammo] | awesome gear! |
| 08:17.31 | cladhaire | like, the s2 dagger.. goes from +400 healing/ + 141 damage, to a flat + 255 spell power |
| 08:17.34 | [Ammo] | go run 1 kara and you'll be ok :) |
| 08:17.39 | cladhaire | well, let me give you a better example |
| 08:17.51 | cladhaire | take a look at the Kodohide set versus the uhh.. Wyrmhide set? |
| 08:18.00 | cladhaire | in BC, the wyrmhide set actually gives you more +healing |
| 08:18.04 | cladhaire | even tho its the caster set |
| 08:18.10 | cladhaire | s/BC/Wrath/ |
| 08:18.22 | cladhaire | whereas in BC, it gives you much less +healing |
| 08:18.34 | cladhaire | so what should I upgrade first, my weapon? |
| 08:19.00 | Shefki | cladhaire: I wouldn't expect it to stay like that. |
| 08:19.09 | cladhaire | Shefki: .. why? |
| 08:19.18 | cladhaire | it'd give me +300 healing, and +20 stamina, and +21 resistance |
| 08:19.19 | nevcairiel | well kodohide still has the healer stats, like mana regen |
| 08:19.26 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 08:19.29 | cladhaire | I know, and the bonus, etc. |
| 08:19.32 | cladhaire | so its still the healer gear |
| 08:19.32 | Shefki | Because everything was converted by script. There are some anomalies that don't make any sense. |
| 08:19.41 | cladhaire | Shefki: in this case, they do make sense |
| 08:19.51 | cladhaire | its not really an anomoly |
| 08:19.56 | Shefki | E.G. healing enchants give more spell damage than the spelld damage enchants. |
| 08:20.01 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: so whats the offhand that I pick up? |
| 08:20.26 | cladhaire | [Merciless Gladiator's Endgame]? |
| 08:20.33 | cladhaire | oh no |
| 08:20.33 | Shefki | Salvation |
| 08:20.35 | cladhaire | Reprieve |
| 08:20.37 | cladhaire | and Salvation |
| 08:20.38 | cladhaire | there we go |
| 08:20.44 | cladhaire | so I need like 34000 honor |
| 08:20.46 | cladhaire | its AV weekend, gogo! |
| 08:20.48 | [Ammo] | easy peasy |
| 08:20.51 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 08:20.59 | [Ammo] | I did my rogues swords in 1 weekend |
| 08:21.04 | Xinhuan | i need 24000 ravenholdt rep ;p |
| 08:21.14 | Xinhuan | so far i've eradicated 18000 syndicate mobs with ice lances |
| 08:21.15 | Shefki | Honestly, I expect there to be rep PVP gear in Wrath. |
| 08:21.25 | cladhaire | me too |
| 08:21.30 | cladhaire | but that does me no good until i'm 80 |
| 08:21.30 | cladhaire | :P |
| 08:21.32 | cladhaire | I need it now |
| 08:21.35 | cladhaire | until wrath comes out |
| 08:21.38 | [Ammo] | need to play my little bald friend more: http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Spiked |
| 08:21.46 | cladhaire | I'm on a PVP team with a random PVE shaman |
| 08:21.48 | nevcairiel | get the http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=32961 |
| 08:21.55 | cladhaire | we're rated abotu 1400, but we can actually win games in that range |
| 08:21.57 | nevcairiel | in wotlk its the same stats as the dps oh |
| 08:21.58 | Shefki | I'm confused why you're worried about wrath stats then... |
| 08:22.00 | nevcairiel | but *shrug |
| 08:22.10 | cladhaire | Shefki: because.. my stats will be converted when wrath hits |
| 08:22.15 | cladhaire | and i'll be wearing it initially |
| 08:22.19 | cladhaire | I don't have time to get two sets of gear |
| 08:22.24 | cladhaire | so I'll need to level moonkin in pvp gear |
| 08:22.33 | cladhaire | hence why I'm _considering_ but not relying on it |
| 08:23.19 | cladhaire | Already have 17000 honor, so this'll be easy |
| 08:24.04 | Shefki | Really no matter how you go you'll be fine for leveling in wrath with that gear. The differences work out to be pretty minor for leveling. |
| 08:24.29 | cladhaire | I know that :P |
| 08:25.24 | nevcairiel | except that you re-equip on every other quest |
| 08:25.24 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 08:25.30 | cladhaire | yeh |
| 08:25.41 | [Ammo] | well clad wrote DressToKill |
| 08:25.44 | [Ammo] | guess it's no issue :) |
| 08:25.46 | cladhaire | :P |
| 08:25.51 | nevcairiel | I'm 77 now, and i foind _one_ item to exchange by now |
| 08:25.55 | nevcairiel | *found |
| 08:26.04 | Shefki | I'm 78 and I'm replaced 3 items. |
| 08:26.12 | Shefki | But I'm normally resto. |
| 08:26.18 | Shefki | So Moonkin stuff is my offset. |
| 08:26.28 | nevcairiel | I'm normally resto too, but i level Feral |
| 08:26.31 | [Ammo] | I have yet to decide what character to play WotlK with |
| 08:26.51 | [Ammo] | very tempted to just go play paladin since most paladins in the guild are going OH NOES not playing this anymore |
| 08:26.58 | nevcairiel | haha same here |
| 08:27.15 | Fisker- | slaps [Ammo] around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:27.19 | [Ammo] | that and the fact that this Soul Cleaver just itches for blood |
| 08:27.34 | Shefki | Yeah decided not to level feral this time becuase with the spell damage changes some of my nice resto stuff is really nice balance stuff. |
| 08:27.35 | nevcairiel | But its not as bad as it sounds, with all the modifications to buff stacking, you dont need as many pallys anymore |
| 08:27.44 | [SW]Dodge | nevcairiel: how is feral in beta? =) |
| 08:28.04 | [Ammo] | I just enjoy playing my paladin |
| 08:28.10 | [Ammo] | I'm not that much of a min-max'er |
| 08:28.12 | Arrowmaster | ill level my lock, no clue if ill be raiding or not in wotlk |
| 08:28.18 | nevcairiel | [SW]Dodge: awesome, you do like twice the dps then on live =P |
| 08:28.49 | nevcairiel | I will be raiding, not sure yet if 10 or 25 though |
| 08:29.10 | [SW]Dodge | nevcairiel: twice dps i comparision with current bc dps? :D |
| 08:29.14 | Arrowmaster | for me its 25 or canceling my account |
| 08:29.24 | nevcairiel | [SW]Dodge: yeah, the new talents own |
| 08:29.35 | nevcairiel | well not exactly doubled |
| 08:29.40 | nevcairiel | but it feels so much better |
| 08:30.25 | [SW]Dodge | nevcairiel: yay! hope to get a release or beta key soon :D want to test :D currently my druid is freezed as ther is nothing i could do :S |
| 08:30.47 | nevcairiel | I doubt i would really be happy with only raiding 10 mans for ever, but my guild has so many idiots |
| 08:31.03 | nevcairiel | well we already plan to like reform on wotlk and get rid of the old crust |
| 08:31.13 | [Ammo] | I will probably go 10 man for a while |
| 08:31.21 | [Ammo] | can't dedicate enough time to it anyway |
| 08:31.25 | Arrowmaster | well my bestfriend server transfered |
| 08:31.38 | nevcairiel | we'll clear the guild, and then do whatever we can with the people we have |
| 08:31.41 | nevcairiel | and slowly rebuild |
| 08:31.51 | Arrowmaster | and monday i joined a new guild on my server that some of my old guildies joined |
| 08:32.15 | Arrowmaster | and im not really sure how well its working out |
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| 08:32.39 | Arrowmaster | since im 1 of 3 warlock recruits |
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| 08:33.09 | Arrowmaster | and they have 2 core raider warlocks |
| 08:36.27 | cladhaire | Holy shit [Commendation of Kael'thas] is cool |
| 08:38.33 | nevcairiel | I still want that for my warrior |
| 08:38.37 | nevcairiel | but no luck :( |
| 08:39.19 | Fisker- | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
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| 08:40.01 | Arrowmaster | i know this makes me sound like an ass but through the 4 guilds ive raided with since doing MC 3 years ago, ive always been the top warlock, always had more raid time than any other locks and been considered the closest thing to a 'class lead' each guild had but joining a new guild and being a benchwarmer thats subbed in when more warlocks are needed really puts me off on raiding |
| 08:40.29 | Xinhuan | hop between less guilds? |
| 08:40.47 | Arrowmaster | it wasnt really hoping |
| 08:41.01 | Fisker- | Xinhuan we raped some kind of council >:3 |
| 08:41.23 | Adirelle|work | 4 guilds in 3 years is quite stable |
| 08:41.38 | Xinhuan | try 1 guild in 4 years ;p |
| 08:41.38 | Arrowmaster | first guild split before TBC, 2nd guild merged with another, and that one split because the leaders server transfered and since they wouldnt give us the site we just made a new guild |
| 08:42.28 | Adirelle|work | but most of the time, seniority yields more esteem thant skill |
| 08:43.39 | Adirelle|work | unless you have very smart leaders, what isn't not really common |
| 08:44.12 | Xinhuan | also has to do with recruitment policies |
| 08:44.25 | Xinhuan | if a raid often brings 3 locks to a raid, do you maintain a roster of 5 active warlocks? |
| 08:44.28 | Xinhuan | some guilds maintain like 7 |
| 08:44.38 | Xinhuan | and another might maintain 4 |
| 08:44.52 | Silviu- | We have 5 4/3 in raids |
| 08:45.03 | Silviu- | 5 at Kj :) |
| 08:45.29 | Arrowmaster | former guild had 4, we brought all 4 most the time when all 4 were on |
| 08:46.54 | Shefki | How many you need really depends on how dependable the players are. |
| 08:47.06 | Xinhuan | also has to do with dkp sometimes, ppl will often put people with higher dkp in the raid |
| 08:47.10 | Xinhuan | and lower dkp on standby |
| 08:47.38 | Arrowmaster | havent used dkp in a year |
| 08:47.55 | Vulcanus | sooo much nerdrage on mmo-champion now :p |
| 08:48.11 | Shefki | About the raid stacking stuff? |
| 08:48.14 | Vulcanus | indeed |
| 08:48.19 | Kalroth | If you got 4 warlocks with 75% attendance, then you'll have an average of 3.0 warlocks per raid. |
| 08:49.01 | Kalroth | If you want less people sitting outside, then you'll want to recruit by attendace |
| 08:49.13 | Xinhuan | that's flawed though, because if you want to maintain 3 locks on avg |
| 08:49.54 | Xinhuan | u want 5 active locks at 75% |
| 08:49.55 | Xinhuan | not 4 |
| 08:49.55 | Xinhuan | because the probabily is fairly high that 2 locks won't turn up on the same night |
| 08:49.55 | Kalroth | then you'll have 1 sitting outside a lot |
| 08:49.55 | Xinhuan | which is normal |
| 08:49.55 | Xinhuan | and gives the lock a breather |
| 08:49.57 | Xinhuan | farm dailies, etc |
| 08:50.16 | Kalroth | I guess it depends on your guild and how often you raid |
| 08:50.18 | Arrowmaster | which ive done the last 2 nights |
| 08:50.23 | Xinhuan | or to bring 4 locks if another class has missing ppl |
| 08:50.24 | Arrowmaster | and i never fucking do dailies |
| 08:50.43 | Kalroth | Personally I wouldn't recruit more than 4 warlocks, if their attendance was 75% and I wanted 3 inside. |
| 08:51.00 | Arrowmaster | i honestly had never done most of the final level of dailies on SWP before the other night |
| 08:51.07 | Kalroth | If there was a day where only 2 is online, I fill up with some other class, like mages |
| 08:51.13 | Thrae | If you have 4 Warlocks at 65% attendance, you have 2.6 Warlocks per raid. That means you have 2 full Warlocks and one bloody 0.6 stump of a Warlock running around with no head and missing one arm. |
| 08:51.47 | Kalroth | Thrae: Considering it's a warlock, he's most likely missing his brain and not his arm. :) |
| 08:52.03 | Thrae | Kalroth: He's missing his head, think he still has his brain? |
| 08:52.13 | Kalroth | A good warlock would. |
| 08:52.28 | Thrae | Oh yeah, I forgot they get Brainstones starting at Level 10. |
| 08:53.14 | Kalroth | Too bad they rarely stock up on them |
| 08:53.18 | Arrowmaster | speaking of which, so we're doing brut and have 5 warlocks in the raid, im on CoE and one of the raiders is on CoR |
| 08:53.50 | Arrowmaster | and one of the other recruits doesnt have 4pc T6 yet |
| 08:54.15 | Arrowmaster | and wow either he sucks or it makes a huge difference |
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| 08:55.26 | Arrowmaster | was weird how a lot of the attempts i was clearly leading until i had to lifetap |
| 08:55.51 | Shefki | Wow so the Shadow Priests are the ones whining the most on mmo-champion. |
| 08:55.59 | Shefki | Did they miss the huge buff to their damage they got? |
| 08:56.14 | Shefki | I expected a ton of complaining from the Shamans. |
| 08:57.03 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah wtf is up with people thinking ebon plague is going to replace CoE? |
| 08:57.23 | Arrowmaster | they seriously have to be smoking something |
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| 08:58.35 | nevcairiel | CoE increases dmg taken by 10% right? |
| 08:58.40 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 08:58.40 | nevcairiel | Ebon plague by 13% |
| 08:58.41 | nevcairiel | so? |
| 08:58.42 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 08:58.46 | Arrowmaster | and decreases resistances |
| 08:58.55 | Arrowmaster | which is huge |
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| 08:59.22 | nevcairiel | blizz only offers alternatives to all raid debuffs, they didnt say they will be 100% equal |
| 08:59.52 | Shefki | The debuffs are not equal and that's fine. They're all a little different. But they're close enough to make the difference very small. |
| 08:59.56 | Ellipsis | they said they're supposed to be all equal if fully talented |
| 09:00.03 | Ellipsis | CoE fully talented should be 13% |
| 09:00.09 | [Ammo] | give blue post that says so |
| 09:00.13 | Shefki | All but the very very very elite won't care about the difference between CoE and Ebon Plague. |
| 09:00.14 | [Ammo] | because I doubt it |
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| 09:00.19 | Ellipsis | um...the same one everyone is referring to |
| 09:00.27 | Shefki | Ellipsis: It doesn't say that. |
| 09:00.30 | Ellipsis | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336665205&pageNo=1&sid=2000#0 |
| 09:00.33 | nevcairiel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336795321&sid=1 |
| 09:00.38 | Ellipsis | "In most cases, fully-talented players will have exactly equal power on the strength of these buffs and debuffs. Fel Intelligence is an example of where one ability is weaker than others. " |
| 09:00.57 | Arrowmaster | the very very elite would still be wanting CoE because partial resists fucking kill magic dps |
| 09:01.12 | nevcairiel | Maybe there will be a talent to buff ebon plague to have -resist =P |
| 09:01.29 | Kalroth | Finally we can kick all our mages and rogues |
| 09:01.31 | Shefki | Ellipsis: There are quite a few differences actually. |
| 09:01.36 | nevcairiel | They also said some stuff will undergo changes to allow them to be freely exchangeable |
| 09:01.36 | Kalroth | only need huntards and warlocks now! |
| 09:01.41 | Ellipsis | Shefki: I'm just the messenger :P |
| 09:01.47 | vithos | how many 'buffers' will you need in a 25man raid now anyway to cover every synergy? and is the rest of the raid going to be 'best dps class'*15? |
| 09:01.53 | Ellipsis | I know they aren't equal in most cases, all I said was they're *supposed* to be. |
| 09:02.09 | Shefki | Ellipsis: I'm just saying if you go over the changes they gave us there are quite a few cases where one buff is better than another buff... |
| 09:02.17 | Shefki | But if you read the posts that lead up to this most recent post. |
| 09:02.23 | Shefki | Then you'd know that they intended that. |
| 09:02.26 | Kalroth | ~8-10 buffers, 5-7 healers, 8-13 warlocks. |
| 09:02.33 | Ellipsis | if you take talents into account they should be mostly equalized |
| 09:02.35 | nevcairiel | vithos: the rest will be any dps class you want, they are supposed to do equal dps, now its just "bring the good players", not the "good class" |
| 09:02.37 | Shefki | Because in cases where that is the case the class brings soemthing else that is stronger. |
| 09:02.38 | Arrowmaster | wait fel int isnt going to stack with fort or arcant int? |
| 09:02.45 | cncfanatics | Kalroth: stop crying, warlock dps getting a slight nerf anyway |
| 09:02.49 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: indeed |
| 09:02.54 | Ellipsis | it's just that most people don't know all talents of all classes, especially dumb utility ones |
| 09:02.56 | Arrowmaster | wow that sucks |
| 09:03.13 | vithos | hmm.. i hope they do a really good job of equalizing dps then. |
| 09:03.17 | Ellipsis | yeah, so if you have a mage and a priest in your raid (when wouldn't you?) fel int is useless |
| 09:03.19 | Arrowmaster | they really better fix affliction dps then |
| 09:03.21 | Kalroth | cncfanatics: ok, 7-13 warlocks and 1 hunter then |
| 09:03.28 | Kalroth | affliction "dps" |
| 09:03.29 | cncfanatics | Kalroth: cry more |
| 09:03.35 | Ellipsis | aff dps should be = destro now |
| 09:03.38 | Shefki | The goal here is to put everyone pretty much within 5% of each other on potential dps. |
| 09:03.40 | Ellipsis | malediction is a joke with DKs |
| 09:03.54 | Shefki | And have skill rather than buffs differntiate who to take. |
| 09:03.57 | Kalroth | cncfanatics: I'm not crying, I'm looking forward to it |
| 09:04.03 | Kalroth | it makes leading raids tons easier |
| 09:04.04 | Shefki | RIght now everyone stacks based on class/spec. Not necessarily skill. |
| 09:04.07 | cncfanatics | Kalroth: you're clearly crying ... |
| 09:04.20 | Ellipsis | I'm crying because blizz failed to give locks any utility |
| 09:04.29 | [Ammo] | I'd like to stack a raid based on cupsize |
| 09:04.33 | [Ammo] | and I'm not talking manboobs |
| 09:04.36 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 09:04.40 | Shefki | Ellipsis: CoE, Fel Int, Imp Buff, ... |
| 09:04.43 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis. warlocks are by far not finished |
| 09:04.44 | Kalroth | 8 buffers, 6-7 healers and fill the rest of the slots up with the best class-of-the-patch |
| 09:04.45 | Shefki | What are you talking about you have utility. |
| 09:04.47 | Ellipsis | and yet aff will still get crappy dps because ["greater utility"|"you still cast shadowbolt"] |
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| 09:05.06 | cncfanatics | Kalroth: no thats not how it works ... |
| 09:05.10 | Kalroth | [Ammo]: what's with the manboob hate? |
| 09:05.13 | Kalroth | cncfanatics: oh really? |
| 09:05.22 | Ellipsis | Shefki: all of those are overridden by other spells |
| 09:05.22 | [Ammo] | Kalroth: nothing I just see enough of it on a daily basis |
| 09:05.38 | cncfanatics | Kalroth: potential dps for pure dps'ers is going to be pretty much equal ... |
| 09:05.39 | [Ammo] | the guy that sits across from me isn't exactly slim :p |
| 09:05.49 | Kalroth | M'uru is one of the hardest fights in the game, how to beat it easily? -> http://wowwebstats.com/jcv1jmohnguem?s=153338-186105 |
| 09:05.52 | Ellipsis | ebon plague (since no lock in their right mind will spec malediction just to make coe EQUAL to it), arcane int / divine spirit, and fort. |
| 09:05.56 | Shefki | Ellipsis: Imp Buff is now equal with Commanding Shout. Arrowmaster just explained why you'd prefer CoE over Ebon Plauge. |
| 09:06.16 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster just explained why a very small number of min/maxers would prefer CoE |
| 09:06.21 | Shefki | Fel Int just allows you not to have to take a Mage to get an Int buff and a Priest to get a Spirit buff. |
| 09:06.28 | dafire | Kalroth, i wonder if this still works with new debuff/buff system |
| 09:06.34 | Ellipsis | and considering you'd be gimping a lock dps-wise to spec for it, it's probably not worth the sacrifice |
| 09:06.36 | Kalroth | ebon plague got one major disadvantage, Ellipsis |
| 09:06.42 | Arrowmaster | the difference between CoE and EbonPlauge is fucking huge |
| 09:06.46 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 09:06.49 | dafire | Shefki, fel int is crap .. it was 100 int for me on beta server |
| 09:06.52 | [Ammo] | resists are a fricking pain |
| 09:06.53 | Kalroth | you need to have a death knight in the raid for ebon plague |
| 09:06.54 | Arrowmaster | CoE gives less chance of RNG fucking you over |
| 09:06.55 | cncfanatics | Kalroth: you are officialy sherlock |
| 09:07.02 | [Ammo] | p a i n |
| 09:07.07 | Ellipsis | Shefki: we don't take mages and priests for buffs...we take mages for tables and ports, and priests for healing/mana batteries |
| 09:07.12 | Shefki | dafire: I'm perfectly aware of that. |
| 09:07.15 | Kalroth | cncfanatics: and you're so easily trolled, hell my mom is harder to troll! |
| 09:07.32 | Kalroth | cncfanatics: I got a bridge for sale if you think I'm being serious |
| 09:07.35 | cncfanatics | Kalroth: I just woke up :( |
| 09:07.49 | cncfanatics | *goes take a shower to think more clearly* |
| 09:08.02 | dafire | they say warlocks are doing less damage and more support... but where did the support go now ? :9 |
| 09:08.15 | Kalroth | I'm just saying that we WILL see some stacking, it comes with the territory. You make classes more simple, it'll be easier to spot the unbalanced classes/talents. |
| 09:08.18 | Arrowmaster | dafire: yeah i agree |
| 09:08.21 | Shefki | Ellipsis: There are 3 mana battery classes and 4 healing classes. |
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| 09:08.39 | Shefki | As far as tables, sure that's true. Ports are not really that important. |
| 09:08.44 | Kalroth | People already stack today, making classes and talents simpler will only encourage stacking even more. I can't see how it wouldn't. |
| 09:08.58 | Ellipsis | Shefki: but there's only one fort. :) |
| 09:09.00 | Arrowmaster | i really really want them to fix affliction because i would really rather raid as it then destro |
| 09:09.09 | Ellipsis | no other buffs share the "increased stamina" category after these changes |
| 09:09.10 | Kalroth | Arrowmaster: So you're a slacker? |
| 09:09.14 | Shefki | Ellipsis: Fort doesn't stack with Commanding Shout or Imp Buff now. |
| 09:09.16 | dafire | no.. they don't want stacking.. they want every class do the same |
| 09:09.22 | Shefki | Ellipsis: And all 3 give the same health now. |
| 09:09.26 | Kalroth | dafire: Which isn't possible. |
| 09:09.34 | Arrowmaster | Kalroth: no i find pressing 1 button over and over boring |
| 09:09.36 | Ellipsis | Shefki: read again, fort is in a group of its own because it gives STAMINA, the other two give HEALTH and don't stack |
| 09:09.51 | Kalroth | Arrowmaster: Affliction is 1 button too, it's just a macro of several spells :) |
| 09:10.01 | [Ammo] | Kalroth: not if you're doing it right it isn't |
| 09:10.09 | Shefki | Hmm you're right there. |
| 09:10.10 | Ellipsis | if you are macroing you are doing it wrong |
| 09:10.17 | Ellipsis | there is no such thing as a rotation for affliction locks |
| 09:10.20 | Arrowmaster | if you are raiding as affliction and using a macro you are doing it very very very wrong |
| 09:10.28 | Kalroth | [Ammo]: I'm talking about affliction warlocks, they're doing it wrong the second they chose their spec. :) |
| 09:10.35 | [Ammo] | I've been affliction since release, changed in BT to destro |
| 09:10.51 | dafire | they don't want any raid spot reserved for a specific class... I wouldn't wonder if they give all healers the same heal spells next beta update |
| 09:10.52 | [Ammo] | I enjoy affliction micromanagement more than spamming SB |
| 09:11.00 | Arrowmaster | i went affliction for 2.0, switched to destro for BT |
| 09:11.21 | [Ammo] | but the spec just doesn't cut it |
| 09:11.25 | [Ammo] | compared to destro |
| 09:11.32 | [Ammo] | which basically forced me into cookie cutter SB spam |
| 09:11.32 | Ellipsis | I've been affliction since the day I dinged 70 and put on my FSW |
| 09:11.36 | Arrowmaster | was MD/Ruin for a long time (bleh), then was one of the early adopters of 7/21/21 |
| 09:11.49 | Ellipsis | and never respecced |
| 09:12.01 | dafire | I liked 1/38/21 but the succubus died to often |
| 09:12.07 | [Ammo] | I levelled affliction from feb 2005 onwards, I still enjoy the spec a fuckton |
| 09:12.16 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: i think ive got the least cookie cutter 0/21/40 build |
| 09:12.32 | dafire | 1/39/21 |
| 09:12.50 | [Ammo] | I'm 0/21/40 |
| 09:13.00 | [Ammo] | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-talents.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Ammo |
| 09:13.31 | Arrowmaster | ive got what looks like a fire destro build but i have imp SB instead of cataclysm |
| 09:13.41 | [Ammo] | check my build :) |
| 09:13.56 | Arrowmaster | weird |
| 09:14.01 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: is that supposed to be a statement about cataclysm's usefulness? :P |
| 09:14.20 | Arrowmaster | why do you have 2/5 emberstorm and 4/5 cataclysm? |
| 09:14.39 | [Ammo] | I need 2 points somewhere |
| 09:14.41 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: i actually shadowbolt spam in raids but use fire soloing |
| 09:14.42 | [Ammo] | and emberstorm is good enough |
| 09:14.44 | dafire | I wonder if 5 warlocks now will have 5 impsb debuff slots on the mob |
| 09:14.59 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: makes sense I suppose |
| 09:15.06 | Ellipsis | not difficult to get all the talents you need to do that |
| 09:15.06 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: i ment why not 5/5 cataclysm and 1/5 emberstorm |
| 09:15.16 | [Ammo] | I didn't think it possible |
| 09:15.20 | [Ammo] | but maybe I fucked it up |
| 09:15.38 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: it should be since your just moving 1 point down the tree not up |
| 09:15.40 | [Ammo] | besides, not like I have raided in last 3 months |
| 09:16.04 | [Ammo] | I probably messed it up then |
| 09:16.08 | dafire | i stopped raiding when we got the the twins |
| 09:16.29 | [Ammo] | same thing though, sac succy, spam SB till you drop |
| 09:16.43 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Tokrim |
| 09:16.44 | [Ammo] | pile of poo playing |
| 09:17.33 | [Ammo] | I have the improved imp drek because they put me in the role of 'buff the mt' a lot |
| 09:17.34 | dafire | one day at brutallus one warlock was missing and a warrior logged on his account to play him and he did more damage then two other warlocks |
| 09:17.38 | [Ammo] | which makes the build less usefful |
| 09:17.39 | Arrowmaster | i probably should respec though to go with a more competitive build |
| 09:17.39 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
| 09:18.10 | [Ammo] | I am not in the raid to perform a lot, I used to be there to talk |
| 09:18.17 | [Ammo] | and curse at people |
| 09:18.19 | [Ammo] | and talk more |
| 09:18.41 | Arrowmaster | well in wotlk destro is going to be pure fire it seems |
| 09:18.58 | nevcairiel | Dont trust any current warlock talents |
| 09:18.58 | dafire | why would you choose fire ? |
| 09:19.09 | nevcairiel | they are even more unfinished then other classes |
| 09:19.30 | dafire | with the imp scorche change fire looses damage |
| 09:19.46 | cncfanatics | dafire: most deep destro talents seem to focus on fire |
| 09:19.56 | Wraithan | d |
| 09:19.57 | Arrowmaster | hell if they changed emberstorm right now to the wotlk version (.1 cast time reduction instead of 2% haste) it would win hands down |
| 09:20.01 | Wraithan | oops |
| 09:20.29 | dafire | to bad i focused on shadow damage gear and enchant .9 |
| 09:20.40 | cncfanatics | omg o |
| 09:20.44 | cncfanatics | omg, its Wraithan |
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| 09:21.02 | dafire | what is a blonde between two warlocks ? |
| 09:21.08 | jnwhiteh | so am I a bad person for afking in AV? |
| 09:21.17 | [Ammo] | no |
| 09:21.19 | dafire | not the dumbest |
| 09:21.22 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 09:21.22 | [Ammo] | smart person :) |
| 09:21.28 | cncfanatics | jnwhiteh: you're a useless person for afk'ing in AV |
| 09:21.33 | Wraithan | cncfanatics: hey man |
| 09:21.36 | cncfanatics | up to you if being useless is bad :p |
| 09:21.38 | jnwhiteh | Fisker is gonna come kill me, I can tell it! |
| 09:21.43 | jnwhiteh | cncfanatics: I fight all the time |
| 09:21.48 | jnwhiteh | i'm just in my office for 6 hours |
| 09:21.50 | Funkeh` | you're supposed to call everyones noobs for being shit |
| 09:21.53 | jnwhiteh | figuerd i can hit the keyboard every four minutes |
| 09:21.55 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 09:22.04 | [Ammo] | autowalk and run out of the cave somewhere |
| 09:22.08 | [Ammo] | then jump |
| 09:22.15 | [Ammo] | and tell people with an automated script to report afkers |
| 09:22.21 | [Ammo] | that way you don't get reported yourself |
| 09:22.30 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 09:22.35 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 09:22.43 | jnwhiteh | i need a simple battleground autojoiner |
| 09:22.47 | jnwhiteh | there one on wowace? |
| 09:22.53 | [Ammo] | sspvp2 is good enough |
| 09:22.58 | [Ammo] | slightly big |
| 09:22.59 | [Ammo] | and not simple |
| 09:23.03 | [Ammo] | but it works well |
| 09:23.04 | jnwhiteh | all i need is auto join :P |
| 09:23.05 | Funkeh` | not as far as I'm aware |
| 09:23.08 | dafire | automaton does that too |
| 09:23.10 | Fisker- | why jnwhiteh? :o |
| 09:23.13 | dafire | and some other stuff |
| 09:23.14 | jnwhiteh | this machine is horribly crappy |
| 09:23.17 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 09:23.17 | jnwhiteh | Fisker-: aren't you on my server |
| 09:23.19 | Funkeh` | but I always hated auto join |
| 09:23.20 | jnwhiteh | or is it funkeh? |
| 09:23.21 | jnwhiteh | i always forget |
| 09:23.22 | [Ammo] | well rip the code from sspvp2 |
| 09:23.24 | Funkeh` | auto leave on the other hand |
| 09:23.25 | [Ammo] | and tell shadowed you love him |
| 09:23.57 | Fisker- | i'm on ravencrest :3 |
| 09:23.59 | Fisker- | but i don't pvp |
| 09:24.13 | nevcairiel | because you suck at it |
| 09:24.13 | Funkeh` | you sound more of an RP person Fisker- |
| 09:24.17 | Fisker- | nah nevcairiel |
| 09:24.23 | Fisker- | when i pvp I R BESTEST |
| 09:24.33 | Fisker- | once upon a time in AV |
| 09:24.40 | Fisker- | i had highest healing AND damage |
| 09:24.42 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 09:24.49 | dafire | and you were alone ? :) |
| 09:24.52 | Fisker- | nope |
| 09:24.54 | nevcairiel | thats not really hard, noone heals in av :P |
| 09:25.03 | Funkeh` | Hi my beautiful lady, how may Lord Fisker- erve your needs on this glorious day in Azeroth |
| 09:25.03 | Fisker- | i do |
| 09:25.08 | [Ammo] | all I do is heal in AV on my paladin |
| 09:25.14 | Funkeh` | serve |
| 09:25.14 | Thrae | Funkeh`: Most RP'rs aren't pedophiles...and non-RP servers have the highest population of kids. |
| 09:25.16 | [Ammo] | because that's what I enjoy |
| 09:25.32 | Funkeh` | Thrae, lol wtf |
| 09:25.32 | Arrowmaster | 'Melee Attack Speed Slow Debuff: Icy Touch, Infected Wounds, Judgements of the Just, Thunderclap' lol they forgot Curse of Weakness on that one |
| 09:25.53 | Thrae | ~fisker- |
| 09:25.54 | purl | [fisker-] Get to da choppa! |
| 09:25.54 | dafire | or they change cow again |
| 09:25.56 | Fisker- | i thought weakness was attack power reduction? |
| 09:26.00 | Thrae | ~emulate fisker- |
| 09:26.01 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, emulate fisker- is DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB, and tries to convert more followers to his cause everyday. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END DISCLAIMER |
| 09:26.04 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 09:26.06 | Shefki | Attack Power Debuff: Demoralizing Roar, Curse of Weakness, Demoralizing Shout |
| 09:26.13 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 09:26.14 | Arrowmaster | but in wotlk it has an attack speed debuff too |
| 09:26.15 | cncfanatics | that emulate is wrong |
| 09:26.23 | cncfanatics | ~literal emulate Fisker- |
| 09:26.24 | purl | "emulate fisker-" is "DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB, and tries to convert more followers to his cause everyday. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END DISCLAIMER" |
| 09:26.40 | cncfanatics | needs a <reply> before it |
| 09:26.52 | jnwhiteh | SmartQueue on the ace svn by the way |
| 09:26.58 | jnwhiteh | looks to be able to do autojoin/autoleave |
| 09:27.07 | [Ammo] | oh |
| 09:27.21 | [Ammo] | oh noes its the punkster |
| 09:27.26 | Funkeh` | no Punkie, bad |
| 09:27.35 | Punkie | omg |
| 09:27.38 | Arrowmaster | 'Finally, we have modified Heroism and Bloodlust to affect the entire raid. However, all affected raid members will be unable to cast or benefit from Bloodlust/Heroism for 5 minutes. |
| 09:27.45 | [Ammo] | Punkie: Xom finished his masters yesterday |
| 09:27.47 | Arrowmaster | ok i know somebody was bitching about that |
| 09:27.52 | [Ammo] | needless to say lots of beer was involved afterwards |
| 09:27.53 | Kalroth | About fucking time they did that |
| 09:27.57 | Arrowmaster | seems like a clear buff to me |
| 09:27.58 | Kalroth | stacking shamans was getting stupid |
| 09:27.59 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 09:28.09 | nevcairiel | yeah stacking shamans for heroism was stupid |
| 09:28.10 | Punkie | damn, that would have been good |
| 09:28.12 | nevcairiel | now you only need 1 |
| 09:28.14 | nevcairiel | \o/ |
| 09:28.19 | Arrowmaster | 2! |
| 09:28.19 | Kalroth | 2 :) |
| 09:28.33 | nevcairiel | well ok 2 for a variety of totems |
| 09:28.37 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 09:28.42 | cncfanatics | well, there are more specs then raid slots in wotlk with the addition of the DK |
| 09:28.42 | Kalroth | No, for fights that lasts longer than 5 mins |
| 09:28.45 | Arrowmaster | bloodlust is on a 10 min cooldown |
| 09:28.46 | dafire | the debuff is 5 minutes |
| 09:28.50 | cncfanatics | so all classes/specs are gonna have to be damn cose |
| 09:29.12 | Funkeh` | lol 1 shaman, HUUUUUUG |
| 09:29.18 | Punkie | brb |
| 09:29.28 | dafire | in the end the dps a class can do will decide who gets in |
| 09:29.34 | nevcairiel | one shaman of every spec would probably be best, to fill all good totems |
| 09:29.38 | Kalroth | shamans still got CH though, so we'll probably still see 2-3 resto in raids |
| 09:29.48 | Arrowmaster | so with 'Improved Shadow Bolt: Buffs only self.' if they increase it back up to atleast 20%, i could see that really helping affliction |
| 09:29.48 | Kalroth | if Blizzard insists on Sunwell'ize raid encounters |
| 09:29.56 | nevcairiel | Kalroth: nah i dont think so |
| 09:30.02 | Fisker- | btw |
| 09:30.16 | Fisker- | the exp nerf should take effect in 3.02 |
| 09:30.20 | nevcairiel | Kalroth: like every class has AoE heal now |
| 09:30.25 | Fisker- | so i can level my rogue before expansion >:3 |
| 09:30.36 | nevcairiel | even paladings! |
| 09:30.42 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: Sure, but it's hard to beat brainheal |
| 09:30.52 | nevcairiel | CoH is smart now too |
| 09:30.54 | nevcairiel | last i heard |
| 09:30.54 | Kalroth | Maybe when the downranking nerf is in effect |
| 09:31.07 | dafire | it will be |
| 09:31.10 | Kalroth | Oh okay, then shamans are fucked :) |
| 09:31.21 | Kalroth | 2 shamans per raid; 1 enhance and 1 elemental! |
| 09:31.25 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 09:31.47 | nevcairiel | could take 3, so you get agility + wf + spell dmg |
| 09:31.47 | cncfanatics | Kalroth: don't forget the fancy flourish we get |
| 09:31.48 | dafire | they put the new profession in 3.0 because noone will be able to raid anymore till the addon |
| 09:31.54 | cncfanatics | flourish = BRAIN HOT |
| 09:31.58 | Kalroth | :D |
| 09:32.11 | dafire | nevcairiel, the spell damage don't stack with other spell damage buffs |
| 09:32.20 | nevcairiel | dafire: others like what? |
| 09:32.23 | Arrowmaster | Heroism: Cannot be recast while caster has Exhausted debuff, and those with Exhausted debuff cannot be affected by it. |
| 09:32.23 | Arrowmaster | Bloodlust: Cannot be recast while caster has Sated debuff, and those with Sated debuff cannot be affected by it. |
| 09:32.28 | Arrowmaster | ok i have found the solution |
| 09:32.33 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 09:32.37 | Kalroth | bring alliance shamans :P |
| 09:32.41 | Arrowmaster | yes! |
| 09:33.09 | nevcairiel | dafire: what else buffs spell dmg? |
| 09:33.30 | Arrowmaster | so did any of the shadow priests actually read this thread? |
| 09:33.38 | Arrowmaster | Vampiric Touch: Grants Replenishment mana regeneration buff to up to 10 raid members on dealing damage. |
| 09:33.39 | Arrowmaster | Hunting Party: Grants Replenishment mana regeneration buff to up to 10 raid members on specified shots. |
| 09:33.39 | Arrowmaster | Judgements of the Wise: Grants Replenishment mana regeneration buff to up to 10 raid members on Judging. |
| 09:33.40 | dafire | hmm... i saw it in the list.. where is it now .9 |
| 09:33.51 | Arrowmaster | does anybody else notice a major difference between those? |
| 09:33.53 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: curious how that'll turn out |
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| 09:34.31 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: from reading that i think spriests will regen the most, but *shrug |
| 09:34.51 | Arrowmaster | or does it have an internal cooldown where the spriest cant proc it faster |
| 09:34.57 | dafire | Increased Spell Power Buff: Focus Magic, Improved Divine Spirit, Flametongue Totem, Totem of Wrath, Demonic Pact |
| 09:35.10 | dafire | is the category |
| 09:35.29 | nevcairiel | focus magic is a single buff |
| 09:35.40 | nevcairiel | imp DS is alot less then the totem |
| 09:35.42 | Arrowmaster | i thought it was a buff on the mob? |
| 09:35.49 | Arrowmaster | er debuff |
| 09:35.57 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
| 09:35.59 | Arrowmaster | kinda like hemo |
| 09:36.07 | Arrowmaster | where it had charges |
| 09:36.07 | nevcairiel | sounds like the wrong category then |
| 09:36.18 | Maldivia | "Focus Magic: Now buffs raid instead of debuffing monsters. " |
| 09:36.21 | dafire | or they change it :9 |
| 09:36.30 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 09:36.43 | nevcairiel | Hm |
| 09:36.49 | nevcairiel | need new build to see actual changes |
| 09:36.57 | dafire | great that they put the demonic pact in that |
| 09:37.14 | dafire | so the new 45+ talent of demon warlocks is useless |
| 09:37.20 | nevcairiel | demo is a solo spec again =P |
| 09:37.45 | Arrowmaster | it really didnt look great to me before |
| 09:37.53 | Arrowmaster | solo/pvp spec |
| 09:38.18 | Arrowmaster | and 10man |
| 09:38.20 | Arrowmaster | i guess |
| 09:38.24 | Wobin | poor afflic locks |
| 09:38.28 | dodga | Arrowmaster: From what I read "mana replenishment" will work like this: player (SP, Hunter, Pally) triggers effect, 10 people gain a buff that restores the same amount of mana regardless of who triggered the effect |
| 09:38.29 | Wobin | left out in the cold |
| 09:39.05 | dodga | Also, that buff does not stack, and the one that triggers will not be able to trigger it for some time probably |
| 09:39.06 | Wobin | What's the bet it'll be a sting or chimera shot for the hunters |
| 09:39.13 | Punkie | g'day |
| 09:39.36 | Arrowmaster | Wobin: my bet is on 'arcane shot' |
| 09:39.52 | Wobin | hehe since it's back to what it originally is, now? =) |
| 09:40.25 | dafire | so the shadow priests will probably do more damage but have no aggro reset spell ? .9 |
| 09:40.35 | Arrowmaster | dafire: fade |
| 09:40.37 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 09:40.40 | dafire | ^ |
| 09:40.40 | Wobin | welcome to boomkin country |
| 09:40.53 | dafire | i never raided with a boomkin .9 |
| 09:40.54 | nevcairiel | spriests have a 30% aggro reduction built in |
| 09:41.01 | Wobin | I totally wish we had an aggro dump |
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| 09:42.23 | dafire | i wonder if they patch today |
| 09:42.41 | nevcairiel | they promised a new build, dunno where it ended up |
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| 09:43.19 | dafire | i guess there will be the need of an addon that checks which buff/debuff groups are active and which are missing .9 |
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| 09:44.22 | dafire | i wonder if they still show both debuffs on the target or if you can only see the stronger one |
| 09:44.33 | dafire | which is active then |
| 09:44.53 | Wobin | hm typhoon looks interesting |
| 09:45.16 | Wobin | I thought it was an aoe, but it's more an aimed area attack |
| 09:47.04 | Arrowmaster | 'Secondly, the "replenishment" system seems a bit odd to me just from a warlock perspective (I play a lock on live) because their manage use is so much more spiky than other classes. I'd suggest a fair amount of actual raid-play testing to make sure that the lock rapid-mana-consume-then-lifetap model doesn't penalize 25-man raids with 2-3 locks in them "eating up" too much of the regen.' |
| 09:47.09 | Arrowmaster | you know thats a really good point |
| 09:47.24 | Arrowmaster | since i can go oom in a single bloodlust |
| 09:47.42 | Arrowmaster | faster than any other class |
| 09:47.49 | dafire | as a lock i never got a shadow priest on raiding |
| 09:48.02 | Arrowmaster | i used to never get any kinda group buffs |
| 09:48.10 | dafire | they always put the mages/healers in their group |
| 09:48.15 | Arrowmaster | but the raid leader feared my TPS |
| 09:48.28 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: haven't heard of that system yet, how does it work ? |
| 09:48.48 | Arrowmaster | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336665205&pageNo=1&sid=2000#0 |
| 09:49.14 | Arrowmaster | the raid leader let me die on kalec trash once |
| 09:49.40 | Arrowmaster | apparently i was doing 3.6k TPS on a sentinel and he wouldnt taunt |
| 09:50.09 | Kalroth | owned! |
| 09:50.25 | Wobin | well |
| 09:50.36 | Wobin | you have to teach your warlocks the hard way at times =P |
| 09:50.53 | Arrowmaster | i used to tank trash in MC =D |
| 09:51.03 | Wobin | cause just cause you -can- do 3.6k tps, doesn't mean you -should- =P |
| 09:51.33 | Wobin | brb, sp3 |
| 09:53.15 | dafire | well at least it shows that blizzard can still surprise us *sigh* |
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| 09:53.56 | Pkekyo| | gotta love it when discussing traveling with your friends... "I've got warrants, so I can't go -anywhere-" :P |
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| 09:57.05 | cncfanatics | lol at that blue's nickname |
| 09:57.06 | cncfanatics | <3 it |
| 09:59.00 | Pkekyo| | what blue? |
| 10:00.24 | Wobin | thingie of the numbers? |
| 10:03.59 | CIA-25 | 03adirelle * r81094 10Yatba/ (Yatba.lua embeds.xml libs/): |
| 10:03.59 | CIA-25 | Yatba: |
| 10:03.59 | CIA-25 | - rewrote aura scan scheduling (thanks to Cladhaire for his advices): it should be less CPU-intensive while still reactive, |
| 10:03.59 | CIA-25 | - got rid of AceTimer and AceBucket, |
| 10:03.59 | CIA-25 | - added help in several option tooltips. |
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| 10:04.25 | Wobin | ... was it polling? =) |
| 10:06.48 | Adirelle|work | Wobin: no, it wasn't |
| 10:07.13 | Wobin | ^^ |
| 10:08.07 | Arrowmaster | after 10 hours im still not done loading this svn dump |
| 10:08.13 | Arrowmaster | im going to bed |
| 10:08.20 | Wobin | dump of what? |
| 10:08.25 | Arrowmaster | wowace |
| 10:08.32 | Wobin | I'm somewhat not surprised =P |
| 10:08.38 | Wobin | it's ridiculously large |
| 10:08.43 | Arrowmaster | its a 600Mhz P3 too =D |
| 10:08.57 | Wobin | I'm so impressed at the size of it really. |
| 10:09.04 | Wobin | when I look back at how long it's been |
| 10:09.10 | Arrowmaster | 4GB dump i think |
| 10:09.13 | Arrowmaster | i didnt decompress it |
| 10:09.15 | Wobin | back in the days... |
| 10:09.18 | dieck | hm, wasn't there a note that you should not try to get the whole svn? :) |
| 10:09.23 | Arrowmaster | its like 800MB bzip'd |
| 10:09.28 | Wobin | when the channel membership number equalled what the op number is now |
| 10:09.40 | Wobin | reminisces |
| 10:09.50 | Arrowmaster | dieck: im not checking out the svn, i have an svn dump file that i am parsing |
| 10:09.58 | dieck | ah, k |
| 10:10.06 | Arrowmaster | which was given to me by kael |
| 10:10.08 | dieck | I read it wrong :) |
| 10:10.46 | Arrowmaster | its at commit 57000 after 10 hours |
| 10:11.08 | Arrowmaster | i think this dump goes to like 78000 or 79000 |
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| 10:12.13 | dieck | so you're getting yourself a local mirror? |
| 10:12.25 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 10:12.48 | dieck | and parsing is neccessary for that? I thought you'd only have to copy the server directories? |
| 10:12.55 | dieck | though most of my experience is with cvs :) |
| 10:13.03 | Arrowmaster | svn is different |
| 10:13.34 | Arrowmaster | although you could do that i think maybe |
| 10:13.37 | dieck | looks like that, if you need >10h for a copy of 4gb data :) |
| 10:13.43 | Arrowmaster | but it would be a lot larger than the dump file |
| 10:14.09 | Arrowmaster | since svn inflats disk usage for large repos a lot |
| 10:14.16 | Arrowmaster | since every commit is a different file |
| 10:14.32 | Arrowmaster | or atleast in one of the db designs it is |
| 10:14.56 | dieck | hm. if the data you're importing is the same as the data stored on the servers, how can the amounts differ that much? and how can you answer my question before i posted it? :) |
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| 10:15.47 | Arrowmaster | the dump file is a 'human readable' (binary files dont get fucked up transfering it different ways) reading of every commit |
| 10:15.58 | dieck | so you're dump has no revision history but is just the state of "now"? |
| 10:16.07 | dieck | ah |
| 10:16.08 | Arrowmaster | its a lot different than the actual layout of the repo in use |
| 10:16.23 | dieck | i see |
| 10:16.25 | Arrowmaster | im not sure if this dump is a delta dump or not |
| 10:16.39 | Arrowmaster | if its not then its every file in every revision |
| 10:17.15 | Arrowmaster | but since its been compressed to less than a 4th of the size i think its not a delta dump |
| 10:17.24 | Arrowmaster | since those dont compress as well |
| 10:17.28 | dieck | hm, but then the dump would be bigger than the actual repo, and you'd be better off copying the dirs? :) |
| 10:18.04 | Arrowmaster | if both systems are setup exactly the same running the exact same version of svn and everything else maybe |
| 10:18.15 | dieck | I think I'll have to setup a svn myself and play around a bit :) |
| 10:22.03 | Arrowmaster | yeah the disk space usage of this repo is close to the dump file size uncompressed and its not even finished yet |
| 10:22.26 | Arrowmaster | due to the large amount of individual files bloating it up |
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| 10:24.29 | Arrowmaster | now im really going to bed |
| 10:24.49 | dieck | I'm going to lunch :) |
| 10:35.08 | Trell_ | I'll ask this again, just before I shoot off to a meeting; with Xloot, is there anyway to track who recieves an item, then stop them from being assigned anymore of that item on the Random option |
| 10:35.10 | Trell_ | eg; a sunmote |
| 10:40.19 | [dRaCo] | none that I'm aware off |
| 10:41.29 | CIA-25 | 03adirelle * r81095 10Yatba/Yatba.lua: Yatba: typo. |
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| 10:44.43 | Xinhuan | there are no lowbie herbs on the AH... no bloodthistle, no earthroot, no peacebloom, no silverleaf |
| 10:44.49 | Xinhuan | on live realm ~_~ |
| 10:44.54 | Xinhuan | that's a surprise |
| 10:45.01 | dieck | Xinhuan: words got out about 3.0.0 :) |
| 10:45.02 | Ellipsis | has anyone written a spell sound replacement addon? |
| 10:45.12 | nevcairiel | you cannot replace spell sounds |
| 10:45.21 | Ellipsis | no, I mean... |
| 10:45.38 | Ellipsis | you could implement spell effect sounds in lua so you can change which sounds go to which spells |
| 10:45.46 | Ellipsis | and then just turn off the default "sound effects" option |
| 10:45.56 | Ellipsis | that would also allow you to hear just your character's spells, etc. |
| 10:45.59 | nevcairiel | have fun associating all spells to their sounds =P |
| 10:46.06 | Ellipsis | eh, I only need it for my class :) |
| 10:46.13 | Xinhuan | only about 20000 spells in the game ;p |
| 10:46.26 | Xinhuan | including one for every recipe of every profession |
| 10:46.53 | Ellipsis | I don't care about that stuff, just a subset of all effects |
| 10:47.00 | Ellipsis | I'm going to do one for my character |
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| 10:53.32 | Fisker- | Ellipsis' Ellipsis |
| 10:53.49 | Ellipsis | ooh, that tickles |
| 10:53.56 | orionshock | so what's better, a string:find() or a table lookup? |
| 10:54.21 | CIA-25 | 03orionshock 07WotLK * r81096 10SickOfClickingDailies/ (Classic.lua core.lua): |
| 10:54.21 | CIA-25 | SOCD: |
| 10:54.21 | CIA-25 | Make quest / npc gitter work again, like it does now in live. |
| 10:54.45 | Fisker- | slaps Ellipsis around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:54.51 | Xinhuan | table lookup is faster |
| 10:55.11 | Xinhuan | as string:find() is a table lookup + metatable lookup + function call |
| 10:57.15 | Ellipsis | wow, seriously? you actually *use* mirc? |
| 10:58.54 | CIA-25 | 03orionshock 07WotLK * r81097 10SickOfClickingDailies/ (localizations/qDB.lua template_module.lua): |
| 10:58.54 | CIA-25 | SOCD: |
| 10:58.54 | CIA-25 | add template module, del extra file |
| 10:59.03 | orionshock | Xinhuan: good point |
| 10:59.05 | Kalroth | slaps Ellipsis around with a giant fire hose. |
| 10:59.15 | nevcairiel | you could always local string.find before |
| 10:59.37 | orionshock | nevcairiel: sorta don't have to; strfind |
| 10:59.43 | orionshock | blizz made some shortcuts |
| 10:59.50 | nevcairiel | its a global, local that too :P |
| 10:59.56 | orionshock | lo |
| 10:59.58 | orionshock | l |
| 11:00.25 | orionshock | but i can say that i've made my addon overly complicated now for such a simple task |
| 11:00.34 | Ellipsis | it already was |
| 11:00.38 | orionshock | meh |
| 11:00.58 | orionshock | i liked v1 tbh, no framework; but one pain in the ass main table |
| 11:01.31 | Xinhuan | what's wrong with clicking dailies |
| 11:01.42 | [SW]Dodge | therse a weird bug in pitbull for me. it does only show 1 party member but we are 3 |
| 11:01.44 | orionshock | hehe |
| 11:01.57 | Ellipsis | [SW]Dodge: were you in combat when the missing people joined? |
| 11:02.01 | Ellipsis | and is this live or beta |
| 11:02.32 | [SW]Dodge | Ellipsis: bc-live |
| 11:02.40 | [SW]Dodge | and i'm not sure if i was in combat |
| 11:02.44 | orionshock | lets see, click for opening the npc gossip, click to get quest desc, click to accept quest; click to open the npc gossip, click to get into quest, click to turn in quest, click to get gold from quest |
| 11:03.01 | [SW]Dodge | just saw him talking but not in the unit frames |
| 11:03.10 | orionshock | 7 clicks x 25 dailies x 6months of it every single fking day |
| 11:03.17 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:03.27 | Xinhuan | you probably clicked more keys to make that addon than what you would have clicked ;p |
| 11:03.32 | orionshock | at the time so Xinhuan you can see where the insanity came from |
| 11:03.50 | Xinhuan | wait you did dailies for 6 months nonstop? LOL |
| 11:03.59 | orionshock | epic mount! |
| 11:04.09 | Xinhuan | i farmed 5k gold in 3 days |
| 11:04.12 | orionshock | 45mins before work every day... |
| 11:04.13 | Xinhuan | not 6 months |
| 11:04.15 | orionshock | i was taking my time |
| 11:04.28 | Xinhuan | =.= |
| 11:04.47 | orionshock | in my defense i only got to play for about 2hrs a day |
| 11:04.52 | Kalroth | Blizzard loves players like you, orionshock! |
| 11:05.10 | orionshock | Kalroth: i will stab you |
| 11:05.19 | Kalroth | :P |
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| 11:05.38 | orionshock | i had a sad situation when i was on a west cost pvp server while working 2nd shift; so it wasn't quite the right server for me to raid on |
| 11:06.21 | orionshock | i eventually xfered to an oceanic server |
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| 11:18.38 | dodga | eheh with that colors in the post on mmo champ i get even more disappointed |
| 11:18.48 | dodga | nearly everything is orange or purple... |
| 11:18.54 | dodga | time to level my lock I guess |
| 11:19.23 | [SW]Dodge | Ellipsis: new one joined group, i wasnt in combat still only one of the members is shown |
| 11:22.05 | [SW]Dodge | Ellipsis: and target + targets-target + targets-targets-target health bar do not update/disappear O.o |
| 11:22.30 | Ellipsis | no errors? |
| 11:22.55 | vithos | anyone know if there's a way to have a seperate WUU profile for a seperate WoW install? |
| 11:23.12 | [SW]Dodge | Ellipsis : teh only errors swatter shwos are from atlas |
| 11:24.19 | Ellipsis | strange |
| 11:26.13 | [SW]Dodge | yea :) |
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| 12:03.04 | harl|WoW | bah.. how do i get firefox 3 to accept any certificates without bleating about them? |
| 12:03.24 | harl|WoW | inheriting windows security instead of applying its own is definitely a big step back for a stand-alone project -.- |
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| 12:17.27 | Obelixprime | jesus titty fucking christ... |
| 12:17.52 | Obelixprime | i can say that I saw the change to raid buffs coming, but i didn't really expect them |
| 12:17.55 | Obelixprime | to do it |
| 12:19.00 | Obelixprime | annnnd, now that i'm going through it |
| 12:19.03 | Obelixprime | it doesn't look that bad |
| 12:20.24 | dodga | Because you're either a druid or a lock? :> |
| 12:20.32 | Obelixprime | no |
| 12:20.40 | Obelixprime | i didn't get to the mana return part |
| 12:20.41 | Obelixprime | fuck... |
| 12:21.21 | Obelixprime | i'm a shadow priest |
| 12:21.36 | dodga | Me too |
| 12:21.41 | dodga | And I think those changes suck balls |
| 12:21.45 | Obelixprime | jesus... isb only buffs the lock |
| 12:21.47 | dodga | And not mine :/ |
| 12:22.01 | Obelixprime | shadow weaving only bufffs me? |
| 12:22.06 | dodga | yep |
| 12:23.18 | Obelixprime | what happens to vampiric embrace? |
| 12:23.26 | dodga | probably still only group wide |
| 12:23.42 | dodga | if they'd make it also affect 10 targets choosing the ones to heal smartly like mana regen |
| 12:23.46 | dodga | that would be cool |
| 12:23.53 | dodga | but then again, aggro 'n stuff |
| 12:23.53 | Stanzilla | fun fact: with those changes you don't need a shadowpriest in your raid |
| 12:23.56 | Stanzilla | >.< |
| 12:24.00 | dodga | Stanzilla: diaf :/ |
| 12:24.06 | Stanzilla | I am one myself |
| 12:25.03 | Obelixprime | uhhh |
| 12:25.06 | Obelixprime | misery change is dumb |
| 12:25.26 | Obelixprime | but it does account for the change in the shadow focus talent |
| 12:25.49 | Obelixprime | now we still need 10% hit rather than 13% |
| 12:26.08 | Stanzilla | ...if they keep the cap at 16%... |
| 12:26.30 | Obelixprime | you think they'd change it? |
| 12:26.39 | Stanzilla | I hope they will |
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| 12:28.43 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 12:28.45 | Stanzilla | "I like this change, as this basically means no more "oh, you are utility, so your DPS must suck" excuses. So Blizzard will have to buff our DPS at the very least and, I hope, will fix scaling problems." |
| 12:29.04 | Obelixprime | huge mind flay ticks |
| 12:29.04 | Obelixprime | ! |
| 12:29.16 | dodga | kek |
| 12:29.19 | dodga | yeah they will |
| 12:29.21 | dodga | NOT! |
| 12:29.24 | Obelixprime | i do more dmg on beta then on live |
| 12:29.31 | Obelixprime | due to the twisted faith talent |
| 12:29.38 | Obelixprime | i can easily crit for 4k on beta |
| 12:29.42 | Obelixprime | while soloing |
| 12:29.55 | Obelixprime | where i crit for that fully raid buffed |
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| 12:30.47 | Stanzilla | yeah and shadow speccs will look wierd when 3.0 hits because people will want improved inner fire |
| 12:31.27 | dodga | Stanzilla: Na, I'd go for ImpDS |
| 12:31.31 | Obelixprime | they havne't fixed it yet to affect spell power have they? |
| 12:31.37 | dodga | Obelixprime: not yet |
| 12:31.56 | Obelixprime | so |
| 12:31.57 | Stanzilla | the beta builds are far behind when it comes to talents |
| 12:32.12 | Stanzilla | lock's chaos bolt still has the old cooldown etc |
| 12:32.15 | Obelixprime | with the "replenishment" change we'll be returning 750 mana per second |
| 12:32.36 | Obelixprime | given that the people have 15000 mana each |
| 12:32.39 | Obelixprime | now |
| 12:32.42 | dodga | I'd spec like this http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=bqMhzhxzbZZGcfMowzcVaVzI |
| 12:32.59 | dodga | though i could put 3 points from Mental Agility into Inner Fire, if it'd affect +damage :P |
| 12:33.03 | sb | dodga: nah... |
| 12:33.17 | Obelixprime | looking at how hunters and paladins return mana i think we'll still maintain a "mana battery" role, just due to the frequency we'll trigger the replenishment effect |
| 12:33.45 | dodga | sb: whaddayamean nah |
| 12:33.57 | Stanzilla | dodga: nooo..no need for shadow affinity and get rid of the spirit buff |
| 12:34.08 | sb | dodga: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents2.html?tal=05000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000320323051024012305150501350 |
| 12:34.13 | nevcairiel | its 0.5% per second, thats somehow not 750 in my book =P |
| 12:34.26 | dodga | Stanzilla: -threat = more dps and anything else in the shadow tree sucks arse for max pve :P |
| 12:34.27 | Obelixprime | 15000 * 0.005 * 10 |
| 12:34.39 | Stanzilla | dodga: shadowform has enough -threat |
| 12:34.44 | dodga | huh? |
| 12:34.45 | sb | dodga: +10 points and not taking spirit :p |
| 12:34.55 | dodga | shadowform has -30% like now on live with salv |
| 12:35.04 | dodga | and on live that is nowhere near enough -threat |
| 12:35.10 | sb | mhh |
| 12:35.16 | sb | you need imp shadowform :P |
| 12:35.16 | dodga | even more so wenn VT affects 10 and not 5 people |
| 12:35.17 | nevcairiel | its all -threat you'll get =P |
| 12:35.27 | dodga | sb: what for? |
| 12:35.32 | nevcairiel | just skip on VE |
| 12:35.32 | vithos | will replenish cause threat for the shadowpriest? |
| 12:35.38 | dodga | vithos: Of course it will :o |
| 12:35.47 | dodga | nevcairiel: I don't do VE if not needed |
| 12:35.55 | sb | dodga: -interruption chance |
| 12:35.58 | sb | 70% |
| 12:36.04 | dodga | sb: Nope |
| 12:36.09 | sb | nope what? :) |
| 12:36.09 | dodga | Interrupt Chance is no longer |
| 12:36.19 | dodga | It is converted to Time lost when interrupted |
| 12:36.32 | sb | but it could cancel mindflays |
| 12:36.34 | dodga | Also ImpVE = le grande suck |
| 12:36.53 | sb | do you raid in SWP? :P |
| 12:36.55 | dodga | sb: huh? yeah of course it could, so? |
| 12:36.56 | vithos | dodga, i thought it might be a power gain for the recipient, since it sounds like it's a buff you gain |
| 12:37.10 | dodga | sb: Yes I do, and I have ImpVE specifically for Kalecgos, that doesn't mean it's great |
| 12:37.11 | nevcairiel | it is a buff |
| 12:37.11 | Obelixprime | ugh |
| 12:37.15 | Obelixprime | misery is such a useless talent now |
| 12:37.17 | nevcairiel | will probably not add aggro to the priest |
| 12:37.18 | Obelixprime | if you're not raiding |
| 12:37.23 | Fisker- | nevcairiel is my friend : |
| 12:37.24 | Fisker- | :) |
| 12:37.31 | dodga | vithos: Might, might not, who knows |
| 12:37.51 | nevcairiel | mana-regen aggro isnt really that strong anyway |
| 12:38.08 | Stanzilla | ImpVE is a life saver on twins |
| 12:38.22 | Obelixprime | I'd start 3.0.2 with this for levelling |
| 12:38.22 | Obelixprime | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=bVMh0hZZG0fVoizsVqbzAo |
| 12:38.26 | sb | same with muru :p |
| 12:38.35 | nevcairiel | You start 3.0.2 with at least 1-2 month of raiding =P |
| 12:38.51 | dodga | Okay, we are required to take impve, so cut back 2 points from somewhere, can we got on now :P |
| 12:39.03 | dodga | s/got/get/ |
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| 12:39.33 | Obelixprime | so... are they only going to make misery 1 rank? and move it closer to the top of the tree then? |
| 12:39.50 | Stanzilla | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents2.html?tal=05023011330000000000000000000000000000000000000000000320023051023010305152501351 |
| 12:39.53 | Stanzilla | for lvl 80 raiding |
| 12:40.03 | Obelixprime | the tree is borked with these changes |
| 12:40.04 | nevcairiel | hopefully the new build with all the new talents is coming soon |
| 12:40.09 | kadrahil | so now spriests are going to be stacking spirit? |
| 12:40.09 | Obelixprime | i'm not even going to discuss it |
| 12:40.10 | sb | Stanzilla: imp inner fire is heal only isnt it? |
| 12:40.18 | Stanzilla | it was changed |
| 12:40.19 | sb | err inner fire - without imp :p |
| 12:40.22 | Stanzilla | but not in the recent build |
| 12:40.25 | dodga | Stanzilla: What do you need Dispersion for in PvE, and as long as Inner Fire is +heal only that is crap |
| 12:40.31 | Stanzilla | dodga: life saver |
| 12:40.33 | dodga | Also stop using the official talent calculator, that is days behind |
| 12:40.41 | Stanzilla | lol^^ |
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| 12:40.47 | Stanzilla | nothing has changed for priests... |
| 12:40.59 | dodga | Stanzilla: Imp Shadowform has |
| 12:41.08 | dodga | It is no longer chance to resist interruption |
| 12:41.12 | nevcairiel | All the talent calculators are kinda pointless atm |
| 12:41.28 | nevcairiel | there will be several builds that revamp like all classes again |
| 12:41.32 | nevcairiel | well most of them, anyway |
| 12:41.43 | kadrahil | WOW that pain and suffering talent is NICE |
| 12:41.46 | kadrahil | good change |
| 12:41.47 | Stanzilla | dodga: I would still specc it |
| 12:41.53 | kadrahil | well addition |
| 12:42.09 | dodga | Also I don't see the point why Priests should have their lifesaver as 51 points, where as Mages get theirs as normal spell (sub the mana/hp regen) |
| 12:42.20 | Stanzilla | because blizz hates priests :P |
| 12:42.24 | dodga | Stanzilla: I wouldn't, but meh, that's what talents are for :> |
| 12:42.32 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 12:42.57 | dodga | I'd go for ImpDS because you probably want your Holy priest to spec Guardian Spirit |
| 12:43.07 | dodga | And with all that changes who knows if you take a 3rd priest with you |
| 12:43.26 | nevcairiel | ImpDS on the shadows? |
| 12:43.28 | nevcairiel | finally! |
| 12:43.38 | dodga | nevcairiel: Nope :P |
| 12:43.42 | nevcairiel | more buff biatches =P |
| 12:43.42 | dodga | 23 pts in Disc |
| 12:44.14 | sb | holy spec isnt that easy :/ |
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| 12:44.47 | sb | you can't take imp inner fire |
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| 12:44.54 | dodga | No take candle? |
| 12:45.19 | Stanzilla | dodga: 1 disc priest per raid imo |
| 12:45.32 | dodga | What for |
| 12:45.37 | Stanzilla | utility |
| 12:45.40 | sb | Grace buff ;) |
| 12:45.46 | dodga | Okay lemme restate my question |
| 12:45.56 | dodga | What do you need from deep disc :D |
| 12:46.00 | sb | Grace! |
| 12:46.04 | dodga | sb: stfu already :P |
| 12:46.19 | nevcairiel | I seriously doubt you'll take any class only for utility anymore, considering the new buff-slots etc .P |
| 12:46.20 | Stanzilla | grace, devine aegis |
| 12:47.09 | dodga | I can see those making a difference on new encounters, but once you have a fight down you probably don't need that mitigation |
| 12:47.13 | Stanzilla | *divine |
| 12:47.16 | dodga | And take a dedicated healer instead |
| 12:47.32 | nevcairiel | divine aegis seems kinda useless |
| 12:47.38 | dodga | Because honestly 3% less damage |
| 12:47.41 | dodga | Think Brutallus |
| 12:47.48 | dodga | 20k damage, 3% less is virtually nothing |
| 12:47.52 | nevcairiel | its just what, a shield for 2k dmg? |
| 12:48.21 | dodga | nevcairiel: yeah probably |
| 12:48.32 | Stanzilla | 30% |
| 12:48.35 | Stanzilla | not 3 |
| 12:48.47 | nevcairiel | grace is 3% |
| 12:48.52 | nevcairiel | or 2 even |
| 12:49.01 | dodga | Stanzilla: Grace is 1% less damage on target per talent point |
| 12:49.06 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 12:49.06 | nevcairiel | per stack |
| 12:49.09 | nevcairiel | 2 points |
| 12:49.12 | sb | 2 * 3 |
| 12:49.12 | nevcairiel | 3 stacks |
| 12:49.14 | nevcairiel | 6% max |
| 12:49.19 | nevcairiel | thats nothing really =P |
| 12:49.29 | Fisker- | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:49.36 | dodga | Divine Aegis is 30% of a crit heal, assuming 6-8 k crits heals, that would be around 2k shield |
| 12:50.17 | dodga | Oh yeah, Grace is 2*3%, still not enough to make a difference |
| 12:50.20 | dodga | Just get a holy priest with Guardian Spirit which actually is a "oh shit!" talent |
| 12:50.36 | nevcairiel | I would rather take a holy or just some other full-healer |
| 12:51.00 | nevcairiel | Considering that it probably wont really matter much which classes you take |
| 12:51.17 | dodga | That's the grande scheme :P |
| 12:51.20 | sb | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=bVG0zhZfLxcf0qVhVIst - looks good to me |
| 12:51.37 | dodga | sb: wut no lolwell :> |
| 12:51.40 | sb | or 1 / 3 imp inner fire w/o guardian spirit |
| 12:52.13 | dodga | sb: Seems good to me, too |
| 12:52.23 | nevcairiel | 1 imp inner fire is only 12 raw healing |
| 12:52.24 | nevcairiel | no? |
| 12:52.28 | nevcairiel | seems kinda useless |
| 12:52.29 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 12:52.32 | dodga | Screw imp inner fire, GS way better |
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| 13:04.30 | dodga | And again, I shut 'em all up :D |
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| 14:50.46 | sb | mh - are there any good bc endgame ms warriors in here? :p need some gear examples :/ |
| 14:51.00 | sb | (~2k+ dps brutallus....) |
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| 15:06.04 | Balstor | i'm a decent warrior, what is your issue woth ms dps (only gear?) |
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| 15:08.01 | Balstor | but generally sb maxdps.com has some nice gear list, while getting a good swing timer (LD50_abar) and slam rotation down is probally more important |
| 15:08.04 | sb | warri from my guild wants to play endgame (swp 4/6) ms, and needs some gear hints (stat weight, etc.) |
| 15:10.12 | Balstor | well 30% crit 6.5% to 9% to hit and the attack power out the ass, haste can help but procing haste will screw with your slam rotation |
| 15:10.18 | sb | with hit cap, crit cap etc. |
| 15:10.55 | Balstor | As a warrior officer my first concern is can he do slam rotations, cause that is the rough aspect of doing it |
| 15:11.32 | Balstor | And then he should either be sword or axe spec with some massive 2-H weapon (ZA sword, hyjal etc etc) |
| 15:12.08 | [dRaCo] | axe from teron gorefiend |
| 15:12.16 | sb | well yes.. thats some basics :) |
| 15:12.20 | sb | axe without being orc? |
| 15:12.38 | sb | think swordspec is superior then, isnt it? |
| 15:12.53 | [dRaCo] | not by that much |
| 15:12.59 | [dRaCo] | so if you've got a better axe, use it |
| 15:13.38 | sb | i think he would get S4 weapos then... |
| 15:13.48 | Balstor | here is the guide i make my warriors read on how to slam correctly: http://www.honorbound.se/Slamdps2.pdf |
| 15:14.00 | [dRaCo] | If he's got the choice, yeah, then swords are the way to go |
| 15:14.35 | Balstor | pvp gear is a decent start to raiding gear for a MS warrior, then swap in and some pieces from raiding. |
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| 15:24.49 | Balstor | calling your DBA admin to get a job done, bad: he is in Australia and it's around 1am saturday |
| 15:26.32 | Ellipsis | any good australian will still be up at that hour ;P |
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| 15:31.16 | Obelixprime | so, a guildie just brought up a good point... shadowpriests with the current raid buff changes are going to be the easiest class ever to play |
| 15:31.33 | Obelixprime | i.e. a priest in greens will output the same mana return as a priest in full epics |
| 15:31.53 | sb | but will suck at dps, even with high end gear |
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| 15:31.59 | sb | and thats the problem :) |
| 15:32.07 | Obelixprime | right |
| 15:32.33 | dodga | Obelixprime: They're easy to play atm on live, too, so what's the point :D |
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| 15:33.59 | Obelixprime | the skill factor required will be going lower? |
| 15:34.14 | dodga | so they're like hunters and rogues? |
| 15:34.16 | Obelixprime | i.e. there's no desire to max your own personal dps for the groups mana beneift |
| 15:34.27 | Obelixprime | there can be bad rogues and hunters though |
| 15:34.38 | dodga | still izimodedps :D |
| 15:34.48 | dodga | ah wait, that was warlock |
| 15:34.56 | Obelixprime | it takes some finesse to max personal damage as a spriest |
| 15:35.10 | Obelixprime | which basically revolves around cutting off mind flay ticks |
| 15:35.19 | dodga | Seriously though, every class is easy as hell to play, and if some people slack you're screwed in tricky fights anyway :D |
| 15:35.27 | dodga | Obelixprime: I don't cut off mind flay ticks |
| 15:35.32 | dodga | And my group still never runs oom |
| 15:35.37 | Obelixprime | how much haste do you have? |
| 15:35.42 | dodga | uhm |
| 15:35.45 | dodga | dunno |
| 15:35.50 | dodga | only the trash rings from BT |
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| 15:36.28 | Obelixprime | well, when you get ~200 haste there's a significant increase in dmg that you can get by cutting off mind flays early for everything else |
| 15:36.35 | Obelixprime | its not needed, but the increase is there |
| 15:36.40 | dodga | Hm I see |
| 15:37.05 | Obelixprime | i can get ~5 mind flay ticks in between mind blasts |
| 15:37.31 | Obelixprime | which you can do with no haste, but is hella tough due to lag and response |
| 15:37.34 | dodga | Armorlink plx :D |
| 15:37.44 | dodga | armory* |
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| 15:38.04 | dodga | !armory |
| 15:38.10 | dodga | no workie? |
| 15:38.10 | Obelixprime | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Scilla&n=Obelixprime |
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| 15:38.20 | digmouse | purl is sleep maybe |
| 15:38.24 | dodga | ~~~~ |
| 15:38.25 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT dodga!!! |
| 15:38.28 | dodga | nope :D |
| 15:38.39 | dodga | ~fail purl |
| 15:38.40 | purl | You suck at everything in life, purl. I hate you because you fail. |
| 15:38.45 | digmouse | see? u pissed her off |
| 15:38.54 | AckisWork | ~~~~~ |
| 15:38.54 | purl | grrrr |
| 15:38.57 | dodga | Yea, I'm good at that |
| 15:38.59 | AckisWork | ~~~~~~ |
| 15:38.59 | purl | ACTION takes out a revolver and shoots ackiswork in the head three times. |
| 15:39.00 | digmouse | .... |
| 15:39.05 | AckisWork | ~~~~~~~ |
| 15:39.05 | purl | ACTION lets a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh eat ackiswork. |
| 15:39.13 | digmouse | wow revolver |
| 15:39.23 | Punkie | more |
| 15:39.30 | digmouse | Bionic Commando Rearmed is sooooo hard -.- |
| 15:40.01 | dodga | Obelixprime: That's some nasty gear :D Want too :D |
| 15:40.39 | digmouse | I wanna RAID :( |
| 15:40.59 | Obelixprime | haha |
| 15:41.04 | Obelixprime | thanks |
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| 15:43.14 | Balstor | hey anyone got a rough idea of what a shadow priest damage rotation should be?? ( I play a freinds toon when he needs a raid body in farm content and 10 mans) |
| 15:44.01 | sb | there is no rotation for shadowpriests (tm) |
| 15:44.45 | sb | Balstor: http://dwarfpriest.com/2008/02/21/priest-dps/ |
| 15:45.16 | dodga | Balstor: Keep up Vamp Touch, Shadow Word Pain, keep Mind Blast and if possible Shadow Word Death on cooldown and in between mind flay |
| 15:45.36 | Obelixprime | ^ |
| 15:45.39 | Obelixprime | basically |
| 15:45.53 | Balstor | sweet I was doing most of that excpt mind blast i think, sonice |
| 15:46.12 | dodga | that flowchart is funky :D |
| 15:46.23 | sb | there is a better one :p |
| 15:46.33 | sb | http://dwarfpriest.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/holy-dps.gif |
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| 15:46.47 | dodga | Is it really better to do SW:D before Mind Blast? |
| 15:47.22 | Obelixprime | no |
| 15:47.38 | dodga | yeah thought so |
| 15:47.51 | Balstor | sweet, hey i got a spare hurricane here anyone want one?? |
| 15:48.12 | Obelixprime | if you think about it you're either going to be doing (SWD+MB)/(2*GCD) or (SWD+MB)/(GCD) |
| 15:48.19 | Obelixprime | the first being if you do swd then mb |
| 15:48.27 | Obelixprime | the other doing mb then swd |
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| 15:48.55 | dodga | Obelixprime: Yeah that's what I thought and always did, but that flowchart is saying otherwise |
| 15:49.44 | Obelixprime | hmm |
| 15:49.45 | Obelixprime | smite |
| 15:50.31 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 15:51.03 | Balstor | my primary dps rotation is usually devastate ->devastate ->devastate ->devastate ->whirlwind |
| 15:52.42 | Balstor | o sb make the warrior install a swing timer like ld50_abar, without a swing timer there slam dps will be lower than a tank :P |
| 15:52.48 | Balstor | lunchies time |
| 15:54.00 | Aeyan | The SW:D is just because it puts the longer cooldown out there first, the GCD evens out either way |
| 15:54.24 | Aeyan | I like MB first because I have a nice flow where all my cooldowns tend to come up right when I need them |
| 15:54.39 | Aeyan | Plus MB+SW:D is fun |
| 15:55.51 | Obelixprime | i've hit almost 10k combo with them back to back not on a gimmick fight |
| 15:56.31 | Aeyan | The SW:D can hurt =P |
| 15:56.56 | Wobin | http://dwarfpriest.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/holy-dps.gif |
| 15:56.57 | Wobin | heheh |
| 15:57.53 | FinalX | 13k sw:death crits on curator during evo is fun |
| 15:58.01 | FinalX | ...especially when you have 8.7k health |
| 15:58.13 | Aeyan | Yeah |
| 15:58.26 | Aeyan | I popped myself for 21k on Netherspite once |
| 15:58.31 | FinalX | haha |
| 15:58.43 | Aeyan | I wasn't thinking and forget the blue beam buff doesn't wear off as soon as you step out of the beam |
| 15:58.45 | FinalX | never tried that on netherspite yet |
| 15:58.51 | Aeyan | It's not a great idea =P |
| 15:59.08 | FinalX | well i did kill myself 4 times on curator, out of mb->sw:death habit |
| 15:59.32 | FinalX | then going "how the hell did i di..oh." |
| 15:59.36 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 16:00.45 | Wobin | oh man |
| 16:00.52 | Wobin | I remember dying as a hunter in Mech |
| 16:01.05 | Wobin | because imp Mend pet removed unstable affliction |
| 16:01.13 | Wobin | I had absolutely -no- idea why I kept dying =P |
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| 16:09.03 | Aeyan | Oh I've had the unstable crit one-shot in there |
| 16:09.25 | Aeyan | Oh nos, their unitframe is glowing blue. |
| 16:09.26 | Aeyan | Heh |
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| 16:13.49 | [SW]Dodge | got a question, is there an official ETA for WotLK? someone told me that it will come in ~3 month. |
| 16:14.31 | JerleMinara | october november or december |
| 16:15.26 | [SW]Dodge | not very precise but i hope it will be soon :D |
| 16:15.34 | Obelixprime | i don't |
| 16:15.52 | Obelixprime | but i do think they're going to put 3.0.2 on the ptr in the next few weeks |
| 16:16.06 | Obelixprime | so its going to be beta and beta - northrend |
| 16:16.11 | Obelixprime | double the testers! |
| 16:17.16 | [SW]Dodge | Obelixprime: i think 3.0.2 on ptr will be unplayable due to TOO many player :D |
| 16:17.24 | sb | yep :( |
| 16:18.16 | [SW]Dodge | i bet everyone will try the new talents on ptr to find a good spec |
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| 16:19.08 | sb | i has good spec already! :/ |
| 16:19.17 | sb | but want to test inscription stuff :p |
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| 16:21.10 | [SW]Dodge | ^^ |
| 16:21.43 | [SW]Dodge | inscription was the enchants as items like on arena realms(at least the ptr ones^^)? |
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| 16:21.53 | [SW]Dodge | or EXTRA enchants? |
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| 16:25.53 | kadrahil | pokes vithos |
| 16:27.19 | vithos | sup |
| 16:28.07 | sb | wtf are you talking about [SW]Dodge? :P |
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| 16:28.23 | [SW]Dodge | sb i dont know xD |
| 16:28.33 | sb | inscription is for glyphs - its like... character/spell 'gems' |
| 16:28.44 | sb | so you socket your character to get some spell bonus |
| 16:28.53 | [SW]Dodge | hm |
| 16:29.54 | [SW]Dodge | i'll check the wow-europe page if there are infos about that xD |
| 16:30.09 | [SW]Dodge | i'm not really up2date in most things relating wotlk^^ |
| 16:30.56 | sb | [SW]Dodge: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?page=767 |
| 16:31.55 | sb | but the good stuff isnt implementet yet |
| 16:32.43 | [SW]Dodge | wow that looks awesome |
| 16:33.19 | [SW]Dodge | i have to prepare for wotlk O.o need MONEY xD |
| 16:36.39 | vithos | kadrahil, hi |
| 16:36.43 | Zedde | Hello I need help finding a good chassi to my computer, anyone who could give me some advice ? |
| 16:37.39 | Zyndrome | Antec P182 |
| 16:37.48 | Zyndrome | (obviously what I use) |
| 16:38.12 | Wobin | http://www.shimafuji.co.jp/product/semc5701a01.html |
| 16:38.46 | Wobin | measures 2â³x2â³x1.7â³ =) |
| 16:42.08 | fewyn | i really wish wow's login screen wouldn't eat my cpu for breakfast |
| 16:42.17 | Wobin | omnomnomnom |
| 16:42.38 | fewyn | and is the US login server down? |
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| 16:42.41 | Wobin | night all |
| 16:42.45 | fewyn | nvm |
| 16:42.47 | fewyn | it seems it is |
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| 16:53.44 | Obelixprime | doh, i just made a double post on the priest wotlk forums |
| 16:53.58 | Stanzilla | grats |
| 16:58.22 | kadrahil | vithos: sorry i went afk as soon as i poked you :/ |
| 16:59.20 | vithos | indeed |
| 17:00.09 | kadrahil | i has my ros belt finally |
| 17:00.16 | kadrahil | so my hit is back up to 126 ;o |
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| 17:00.44 | vithos | i've gotten frustrated with how broken autoshot is with KC and haste |
| 17:01.18 | vithos | so now i'm just kinda waiting for 3.0.2 to care about theorycrafting |
| 17:01.24 | kadrahil | ah |
| 17:01.29 | kadrahil | aren't they reworking autoshot? |
| 17:01.42 | kadrahil | to have its own GCD or something? |
| 17:01.57 | vithos | delinking it from casting completely |
| 17:02.05 | vithos | i.e. it can go off in the middle of a steadyshot cast |
| 17:02.06 | kadrahil | yeah that's going to be nice |
| 17:02.08 | kadrahil | yep |
| 17:02.10 | vithos | yeah. |
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| 17:02.31 | vithos | right now, if i try to use KC with my "best" gear, it'll just chain 8 steady shots in a row with no autos |
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| 17:02.41 | vithos | so i just don't use KC |
| 17:03.02 | kadrahil | yeah i have that issue too, but i only have 50 haste or so from the felspine |
| 17:03.14 | kadrahil | so i end up chaining 3 or 4 steadies in a row sometimes |
| 17:03.32 | vithos | i have something like 130 haste, i got the blackened naaru sliver |
| 17:03.38 | kadrahil | oh grats |
| 17:03.48 | kadrahil | i thought that just stacked AP though? |
| 17:03.59 | vithos | it's got 54 passive haste too |
| 17:04.05 | kadrahil | oh, ok |
| 17:04.10 | vithos | and i have the haste neck |
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| 17:04.18 | kadrahil | and cloak? |
| 17:04.21 | kadrahil | or teron cloak |
| 17:04.25 | vithos | haven't killed KJ yet |
| 17:04.33 | vithos | er, cloak of fiends is haste too, but no, i use the kael cloak |
| 17:04.34 | kadrahil | well i meant the ZA cloak |
| 17:04.37 | kadrahil | oh |
| 17:04.40 | vithos | t5 kael cloak |
| 17:04.42 | kadrahil | yeah |
| 17:05.04 | kadrahil | i'm so frustrated over my guild's loot council |
| 17:05.12 | kadrahil | they've given our first 4 madness's to melee |
| 17:05.15 | kadrahil | no hunter love at all |
| 17:05.34 | kadrahil | i'm still using brooch+hourglass |
| 17:05.39 | kadrahil | in nearly full T6 |
| 17:05.58 | vithos | no berserker's call? |
| 17:06.04 | kadrahil | i haven't seen it drop |
| 17:06.08 | kadrahil | in the... 3 times i cleared za ;( |
| 17:06.29 | kadrahil | i'll be upset if they pass me over for the ret pally next time it drops |
| 17:06.34 | kadrahil | because he already has zerker's call and shard |
| 17:08.57 | Pkekyo| | any germans here atm? |
| 17:09.05 | Throngy | just realised bongos3 is pretty much discontinued :( |
| 17:09.10 | Throngy | what should i move over to? |
| 17:09.16 | vithos | Throngy, dominos |
| 17:09.18 | Stanzilla | Dominos |
| 17:09.31 | kadrahil | dominos is the new bartender? |
| 17:09.45 | Stanzilla | nope, the new bongos |
| 17:09.48 | kadrahil | oh |
| 17:10.03 | Throngy | i had a quick look at that but i like to have bars with different numbers of buttons, and i got the impression that it wouldn't do that? |
| 17:10.10 | vithos | it does that |
| 17:10.28 | Throngy | oh well in that case... thanks |
| 17:10.36 | Stanzilla | you just can't have more than 12 buttons per bar |
| 17:10.45 | Throngy | ohhh right that's np |
| 17:11.08 | Throngy | i'll get onto it now, cheers :) |
| 17:11.15 | Pkekyo| | anyone know wether or not germans work on friday? >.< |
| 17:11.25 | Throngy | they do afaik |
| 17:11.33 | Pkekyo| | gah |
| 17:11.37 | Stanzilla | they do^^ |
| 17:12.10 | Pkekyo| | sure doesn't seem like it >.< |
| 17:12.54 | kadrahil | is anyone using bartender4? |
| 17:13.09 | Pkekyo| | my damn parcel has been sitting around in fucking koeln for 20 hours |
| 17:13.15 | kadrahil | :( |
| 17:13.29 | kadrahil | gently pats Pkekyo| |
| 17:13.43 | Throngy | seems dominos is popular here kadrahil |
| 17:13.57 | vithos | i switched from bt4 to dominos |
| 17:14.06 | vithos | for no real reason |
| 17:14.43 | Aii | ~lart Pkekyo| |
| 17:14.43 | purl | tries to shut Pkekyo| up |
| 17:15.09 | Balstor | had o toss this out, for all your UI customization, flexbar2 is the champ :) |
| 17:15.16 | Throngy | while i'm at it, anybody using statblockscore and what do you display the data with? |
| 17:15.50 | vithos | i don't use statblockscore but i've been using buttonbin as a LDB display |
| 17:16.25 | NeoTron | plans to do some more work on ButtonBin this weekend. |
| 17:16.29 | Throngy | ok i'll look that one up (and ldb was the term i was looking for before i gave up :P) |
| 17:16.33 | NeoTron | been sort of displaced a bit by raiding and other crap |
| 17:16.39 | Pkekyo| | ~whalecrit aii |
| 17:16.40 | purl | ACTION crits aii with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. aii dies |
| 17:17.04 | Aii | ~whaleparry Pkekyo| |
| 17:17.05 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Pkekyo|'s attacks. |
| 17:17.18 | NeoTron | see if I can figure out Button Facade |
| 17:18.01 | thul | !points 1600 |
| 17:18.02 | Xinhuan | You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap). |
| 17:18.05 | Pkekyo| | ~whalenuk aii |
| 17:18.12 | thul | !rating 1700 |
| 17:18.12 | Xinhuan | 1700 rating gives 607(5s), 534(3s) and 461(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 17:18.13 | Pkekyo| | ~whalenuke aii |
| 17:18.13 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around aii with his mind powers. |
| 17:18.23 | Aii | ~whaleimmune Pkekyo| |
| 17:18.23 | purl | ACTION uses his Divine Shield and is immune to all Pkekyo|'s physical attacks for the next 12 seconds. |
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| 17:18.52 | Pkekyo| | ~whalescrewyou Aii |
| 17:19.01 | Ellipsis | ~whalefail Pkekyo| |
| 17:19.05 | Aii | ~whalelemmings Pkekyo| |
| 17:19.06 | purl | ACTION 's jaw drops as an army of lemmings escape the mouth of a rather sizeable whale named Remus. The army tramples Pkekyo| |
| 17:19.25 | Pkekyo| | sobs |
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| 17:23.28 | Throngy | NeoTron: That'd be nice... |
| 17:23.30 | NeoTron | Throngy: basically I mae ButtonBin initially to serve as a minimalistic container for LDB launcher buttons (ones w/o need for labels) but it's turning more into a fubar alternative (as well - can still work as a mini-launcher) |
| 17:24.15 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: any reason why i should switch from fortress? |
| 17:24.23 | nevcairiel | for a fubar thingy |
| 17:24.49 | Throngy | i'm really looking for something to replace the ancient StatusWindow |
| 17:24.52 | CIA-25 | 03adirelle * r81102 10Yatba/Yatba.lua: Yatba: fixed error of group filtering panel. |
| 17:25.19 | Throngy | LDB seems to be the way of the future |
| 17:25.27 | kadrahil | ;o |
| 17:25.37 | kadrahil | i've been out of touch with addons it seems |
| 17:25.41 | Dashkal | lemmings? O.o |
| 17:25.44 | kadrahil | since i used default wow on my laptop for so long |
| 17:25.45 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: if you don't like dealing with individual blocks |
| 17:26.04 | NeoTron | I like LDB as a concept but don't like the "lego block" method of organizing things |
| 17:26.14 | NeoTron | I'd rather have bars/bins where I drag/drop things around in |
| 17:26.50 | nevcairiel | can i have a "long" bar with align left,right,center? |
| 17:26.55 | NeoTron | no |
| 17:26.56 | nevcairiel | currently i use 3 groups for those |
| 17:27.11 | NeoTron | but you can have a long bar with left alignment, one with center (without bt) and one to the right |
| 17:27.18 | NeoTron | and change growth directions |
| 17:27.29 | nevcairiel | sounds like the same as fortress =P |
| 17:27.36 | NeoTron | no... |
| 17:27.36 | Throngy | so you're asking if you can build a fubar replacement wth it? :) |
| 17:27.45 | NeoTron | fortress has 40 little boxes with 40 LDB plugins |
| 17:27.46 | thul | I DO HATE tab-targeting |
| 17:27.48 | thul | for real |
| 17:27.53 | thul | seriously |
| 17:27.55 | thul | _hate_ |
| 17:28.14 | NeoTron | BB has 5 bins (hard coded currectly) that organize / grow dynamically |
| 17:28.18 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: well i can stick those together to make a big bar |
| 17:28.26 | NeoTron | sure |
| 17:28.32 | nevcairiel | and they move as one |
| 17:28.42 | thul | i just hate |
| 17:28.43 | thul | _hate_ |
| 17:28.49 | NeoTron | however, personal experience here, it is annoying to me and it had significant wasted space |
| 17:28.53 | NeoTron | mainly the "setup cost" is high |
| 17:29.24 | NeoTron | I don't want to "set stuff up" that is setup automatically much faster and easier if you wish |
| 17:29.33 | NeoTron | as I said though, initially I planned to make just a bunch of buttons in a "bin" |
| 17:29.38 | NeoTron | it's grown since |
| 17:30.46 | Throngy | i'll have a play - but got my bars to do first :/ |
| 17:31.55 | Balstor | how does this LDB compare to flexbar2? |
| 17:32.52 | NeoTron | not at all |
| 17:33.09 | NeoTron | LDB is fubar/titan panel type information display/launcher, not an action bar |
| 17:33.55 | *** part/#wowace kagaro (n=kagaro@cpe-065-190-128-061.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 17:34.08 | Balstor | OOO cool |
| 17:34.27 | Balstor | I try to stay up2date on all the addons, but some slip through |
| 17:34.37 | NeoTron | ~ldb |
| 17:34.37 | purl | hmm... ldb is a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
| 17:34.53 | Balstor | speaking of which someone should remove bannabar or fix that thing |
| 17:34.55 | NeoTron | basically it's a framework independant way for an addon to provide information and for other addons to display it |
| 17:35.20 | NeoTron | where fubar is ace2 (possibly Rock) and titan panel is titan panel (although I believe titan panel is getting LDB support) |
| 17:35.34 | Balstor | hmm I may have to give it a shot, got a couple of ideas for new addons kicking around in the back of my brain |
| 17:35.36 | Dashkal | does bananabar still lock up the loading screen? |
| 17:35.41 | Balstor | yes |
| 17:35.55 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: titan uses rock *shudder* |
| 17:36.10 | Xinhuan | titan and rock hehe |
| 17:36.19 | Balstor | I recently changed to FastMark |
| 17:36.34 | Fisker- | slaps Xinhuan around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:36.47 | Balstor | to be fair I think bannabar has been locking up at the loading scrren for over 10 months now |
| 17:36.51 | Xinhuan | stabs Fisker- with a pillow |
| 17:37.00 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: I am not .. arguing for or against either. FuBar is rock too unless you use the haxed FuBar2 one |
| 17:37.32 | Balstor | is there any guides for migrating your addons from Ace 2 to ace 3?? |
| 17:40.08 | Xinhuan | ackis |
| 17:40.20 | Xinhuan | or AckisWork |
| 17:40.25 | AckisWork | sup? |
| 17:40.26 | Xinhuan | http://www.elsprofessions.com/inscription/cards.html |
| 17:40.39 | Xinhuan | more ways to get darkmoon rep coming in patch 3.0 :D |
| 17:40.47 | thul | i hate |
| 17:40.47 | thul | :-( |
| 17:40.49 | thul | tab |
| 17:40.50 | thul | targeting |
| 17:40.51 | thul | ! |
| 17:41.59 | Balstor | use aloft instead of tab targeting :) |
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| 17:42.29 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: I saw those actually, but they require inscription to turn in don't they? |
| 17:42.35 | Xinhuan | not very sure |
| 17:42.40 | Xinhuan | it says its not bop |
| 17:43.07 | AckisWork | The Rogues Deck is bound when picked up (at creation), and requires 50 Inscription skill to use |
| 17:43.26 | Xinhuan | "The individual cards are not bound to the Inscriber, nor do that they require Inscription to use." |
| 17:43.30 | thul | I have no ide what aloft is :-P |
| 17:43.43 | Xinhuan | reading, ackis, reading! :D |
| 17:43.56 | AckisWork | lol |
| 17:44.16 | Xinhuan | also i'm at 11686/12000 ravenholdt now |
| 17:44.21 | AckisWork | nice grats |
| 17:44.28 | AckisWork | I'm at 5kish I think |
| 17:44.44 | AckisWork | 5190/12000 |
| 17:44.47 | Xinhuan | farming that last bit before i run back and forth lockboxes |
| 17:45.02 | Xinhuan | with AV weekend, i think i can manage it |
| 17:45.11 | AckisWork | and 4350/6000 for darkmoon faire and I have 9 decks saved up (3150 rep there) |
| 17:45.26 | Xinhuan | how much $$ are your decks |
| 17:45.30 | nevcairiel | couldnt you turn in other stuff for darkmoon? |
| 17:45.37 | Xinhuan | only to 2000/6000 nev |
| 17:45.39 | AckisWork | I've paid 300g for a deck at most |
| 17:45.40 | nevcairiel | or was that only for tickets? |
| 17:46.09 | NeoTron | what are ravenholdt rep good for? |
| 17:46.14 | nevcairiel | nothing |
| 17:46.17 | nevcairiel | just having |
| 17:46.57 | Xinhuan | its good to become my 38th exalted ;p |
| 17:47.07 | Fisker- | what trickery is this? |
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| 17:58.09 | Balstor | hmm I need to make a rogue with inscription and name him Gambit ( I already am a coon ass so I can already talk in the right dieliect) |
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| 18:02.01 | raegx | if a chat msg is stopped by one mod via: ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter, does the CHAT_MSG_* event fire for all other mods or is it stopped dead before that fires |
| 18:02.13 | nevcairiel | a event cannot be stopped |
| 18:02.21 | nevcairiel | its just not displayed in the chat frames |
| 18:02.25 | raegx | i see |
| 18:02.26 | raegx | ty |
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| 18:05.58 | raegx | ...im trying to figure out why ZOMGBuff attempts to re add chat handlers for Cellular and WoW IM |
| 18:06.15 | raegx | it doesn't make sense if filtering doesn't stop events from firing.... |
| 18:08.55 | raegx | from zomgbuffs: http://pastie.org/262706 |
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| 18:11.25 | Ac-town | i dont know much lua yet |
| 18:11.29 | Ac-town | but is this valid? "self:Hook(Cellular, "CHAT_MSG_WHISPER_INFORM", function() |
| 18:11.29 | Ac-town | " |
| 18:11.43 | Ac-town | i would think self:Hook(Cellular, "CHAT_MSG_WHISPER_INFORM", function()) |
| 18:12.09 | nevcairiel | nah its valid, the function continues on the next line |
| 18:12.17 | Ac-town | ah |
| 18:12.35 | Ac-town | ah, yes, i see now |
| 18:14.15 | CIA-25 | 03ackis * r81103 10AckisRecipeList/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:14.15 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:14.15 | CIA-25 | - Removed text based GUI |
| 18:14.15 | CIA-25 | - Localizations L["Use GUI"] and L["GUI_TOGGLE"] removed |
| 18:14.18 | CIA-25 | - Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p) |
| 18:15.08 | njal | hrmph. how do I tell how long until the next melee swing (for lets stay the mainhand) is going to land? |
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| 18:18.38 | njal | am I back to watching combat events again? :S |
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| 18:19.02 | Xinhuan | start watching i think ;p |
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| 18:26.04 | NeoTron | don't recall who it was that commented that the Intel Core i7 would cost $1000ish but it seems the cheapest ones will start around $300 if Wikipedia is correct |
| 18:27.59 | kenlyric | what do the most expensive ones cost? |
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| 18:39.03 | Dashkal | cat druids: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/2/9023610487-energy-regen-change--intended.html |
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| 18:39.32 | NeoTron | kenlyric: $1000ish for extreme 3.2 GHz edition |
| 18:39.37 | NeoTron | or $999 |
| 18:41.06 | CIA-25 | 03ackis * r81104 10AckisRecipeList/DownloadCount.lua: |
| 18:41.06 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:41.06 | CIA-25 | - Remove DownloadCount.lua, I made it a project at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/dlcount/ with more extensionability |
| 18:41.06 | CIA-25 | - Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p) |
| 18:45.21 | CIA-25 | 03ackis * r81105 10AltTabber/DownloadCount.lua: |
| 18:45.21 | CIA-25 | AltTabber: |
| 18:45.21 | CIA-25 | - Remove DownloadCount.lua, I made it a project at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/dlcount/ with more extensionability |
| 18:45.21 | CIA-25 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
| 18:46.36 | Stanzilla | Ackis even drycodes file removals :O |
| 18:46.44 | CIA-25 | 03ackis * r81106 10CNF/DownloadCount.lua: |
| 18:46.44 | CIA-25 | CNF: |
| 18:46.44 | CIA-25 | - Remove DownloadCount.lua, I made it a project at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/dlcount/ with more extensionability |
| 18:46.44 | CIA-25 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
| 18:47.17 | CIA-25 | 03ackis * r81107 10Collectinator/DownloadCount.lua: |
| 18:47.17 | CIA-25 | Collectinator: |
| 18:47.17 | CIA-25 | - Remove DownloadCount.lua, I made it a project at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/dlcount/ with more extensionability |
| 18:47.17 | CIA-25 | - Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p) |
| 18:47.26 | AckisWork | why aren't those all one commit? =/ |
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| 18:52.15 | ramoz | different addons |
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| 18:54.14 | CIA-25 | 03ackis * r81108 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 18:54.14 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:54.14 | CIA-25 | - Update OnInit stuff |
| 18:54.14 | CIA-25 | - Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p) |
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| 18:55.30 | CIA-25 | 03ackis * r81109 10Querier/ (DownloadCount.lua Querier.lua): |
| 18:55.30 | CIA-25 | Querier: |
| 18:55.30 | CIA-25 | - Remove DownloadCount.lua, I made it a project at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/dlcount/ with more extensionability |
| 18:55.30 | CIA-25 | - Add blizz options panel stuff |
| 18:55.30 | CIA-25 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
| 18:56.44 | sb | omg... 4/6 SWP and wipe on 6th trash wave in MH |
| 18:56.58 | NeoTron | lol |
| 18:57.00 | NeoTron | know the feeling |
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| 18:57.02 | sb | all dead, run in - winterchill busy with some adds... killed mobs and killed boss.. wtf :o |
| 18:58.01 | NeoTron | wait 6th trash wave before winterchill? not the 6th before azgalor? |
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| 19:03.35 | Cheads | apparently =) |
| 19:04.20 | PProvost|away | Hey Kaelten you here? |
| 19:04.29 | Kaelten | In spirit m friend |
| 19:04.32 | PProvost|work | :) |
| 19:05.01 | Kaelten | what can I do for you? |
| 19:05.32 | PProvost|work | Simple question (I think): Would you encourage or discourage people from moving their own addons from wowace to CF. Since I've already started other projects on CF, I'm thinking about moving all my stuff from wowace over and deleting them from the wowace svn |
| 19:06.11 | Kaelten | I'd discourage it. |
| 19:06.13 | Kaelten | in a few weeks we'll be done with the import |
| 19:06.15 | Kaelten | and if you really want we can shift stuff between the sites for you |
| 19:06.30 | Kaelten | but ultimately your call |
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| 19:10.49 | Bruners | is anyone having problems with catter atm ? |
| 19:11.06 | Bruners | *Cellular |
| 19:14.40 | Arrowmaster | fuck! |
| 19:14.41 | Arrowmaster | svnadmin: Can't flush file to disk: Input/output error |
| 19:14.49 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:14.51 | Arrowmaster | and it was on 75169 |
| 19:14.54 | nevcairiel | disk full? =P |
| 19:15.07 | Arrowmaster | shouldnt be |
| 19:15.19 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: damn |
| 19:15.20 | Kaelten | lol |
| 19:15.34 | Kolie | sigh. |
| 19:15.50 | Arrowmaster | maybe i can just wipe 75169 from it then try and continue from there |
| 19:17.17 | Arrowmaster | AH |
| 19:17.21 | Arrowmaster | IT BLEW UP |
| 19:17.36 | NeoTron | *KABOOM* |
| 19:17.47 | NeoTron | did my first airplane mission in WotLK last night |
| 19:17.56 | Arrowmaster | end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector ..... spam on my console |
| 19:18.02 | PProvost|work | Kaelten: I'm just enjoying the CF site and don't want to have to work in two places any more. :P |
| 19:18.05 | NeoTron | killed some flying mobs with a missile and machine gun equipped airplane |
| 19:18.06 | NeoTron | was fun |
| 19:18.16 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: bad thing |
| 19:18.19 | Kaelten | PProvost|work: glad to hear you're enjoying it :) |
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| 19:18.44 | Kolie | I wanna kill some people with a missle and machine gun equipped airplane! |
| 19:18.50 | Arrowmaster | rebooting it |
| 19:19.06 | Dashkal | NeoTron: that daily and the dragonblight one out of wyrmrest are a ton of fun |
| 19:19.12 | PProvost|work | But you guys do need to fix that Descriptions update bug I filed. :) |
| 19:19.31 | Kaelten | ? |
| 19:19.36 | Kaelten | I don't think I've seen it |
| 19:19.42 | Kaelten | I've been stuck in template land |
| 19:20.19 | Fisker- | slaps Kaelten around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:21.09 | NeoTron | Dashkal: this one isn't a daily I don't think. it's a quest in Howling Fjord |
| 19:21.15 | NeoTron | I must say I do NOT like that zone at all |
| 19:21.26 | nevcairiel | i really liked HF |
| 19:21.28 | Dashkal | NeoTron: it's a daily |
| 19:21.30 | nevcairiel | way better then tundra |
| 19:21.38 | NeoTron | the "here's a quest, go do it" and then doing 2-3 followups |
| 19:21.40 | NeoTron | and then back |
| 19:21.53 | NeoTron | rarely do I seem to have more than 2-3 quests in the quest log |
| 19:21.59 | Dashkal | The dailies I know of right now are two in HF (The zeplan bombing and the shot down the gargoyles) and one in dragonblight where you fight adragonback |
| 19:22.14 | nevcairiel | well thats pretty much normal in the most zones =P |
| 19:22.16 | NeoTron | cool I didn't see a blue thing like for the zeppelin |
| 19:22.23 | NeoTron | (which, btw, doesn't work on Mac OS X) |
| 19:22.24 | Dashkal | I haven't completed BT so I'm sure I've missed one there |
| 19:22.33 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: Borean Tundra is differeny |
| 19:22.48 | NeoTron | my complaint there was almost the opposite - got way too many quests! |
| 19:22.52 | nevcairiel | the quests in borean are stupid though |
| 19:22.55 | Dashkal | BT does tend to stack up in your log pretty quickly I noticed. But I've only done the first couple hubs |
| 19:22.55 | NeoTron | but comparing the two BT > HF |
| 19:23.07 | Dashkal | I disagree. I love HF over BT :p |
| 19:23.12 | NeoTron | I agree that some of the most interesting quests so far have been in HF |
| 19:23.18 | Dashkal | damn good thing too, don't want everybody stacking up in HF |
| 19:23.21 | NeoTron | but BT = faster leveling |
| 19:23.30 | nevcairiel | HF was pretty fast for me |
| 19:23.40 | NeoTron | maybe I'm just "doing it wrong" (TM) |
| 19:23.50 | nevcairiel | you could do the quests pretty much in a good order |
| 19:23.54 | NeoTron | HF just semes splintered |
| 19:23.55 | nevcairiel | and never had to look for quests |
| 19:24.07 | NeoTron | "go all the way to the east" or "go all the way to the west" "carrot quests" |
| 19:24.24 | NeoTron | and the quest descriptions like "somewhere far to the NW" |
| 19:24.31 | NeoTron | and then it's like two stone throws away |
| 19:24.42 | nevcairiel | I dunno *shrug |
| 19:24.48 | nevcairiel | i even got the quest achievement in BT |
| 19:24.50 | nevcairiel | and i liked it |
| 19:25.13 | NeoTron | I like BT > HF so I'm confused with your comment :P |
| 19:25.15 | Dashkal | erm? I found the naavigation pretty good with the exception of westgard and ... gj... that place in the NW corner |
| 19:25.17 | nevcairiel | er |
| 19:25.19 | nevcairiel | HF i mean |
| 19:25.21 | nevcairiel | you confue me |
| 19:25.29 | Fisker- | i hate you NeoTron |
| 19:25.52 | NeoTron | Dashkal: overall I feel both BT/HF to be worse designed than HFP etc (as in the "flow" of things) |
| 19:26.03 | NeoTron | the quests are often more interesting, mainly due to new features |
| 19:26.09 | Dashkal | mmm, HFP is very very good for quest flow |
| 19:26.10 | nevcairiel | i really disliked HFP |
| 19:26.23 | NeoTron | like vehicles and possession of mobs (like the falcon quest, airplane quest, mammoth quest etc) |
| 19:26.30 | nevcairiel | I like HF for that sequential questing |
| 19:26.43 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: liking it or not, HFP had a nice flow for questing even pre-Tourguide |
| 19:26.46 | nevcairiel | all that "pick up 10 quests, and do what you want" was confusing |
| 19:26.47 | Dashkal | agreed. I _liked_ having only 3-4 quests active at once |
| 19:27.05 | NeoTron | there were quite a few synergy quests - where you finished not just 1 at a time but 2-4 quests in the general vincinity |
| 19:27.23 | Dashkal | And if you play it right, Dragonblight is the same way (though some overlap between the tuskarr and the west alli town exist) |
| 19:27.28 | NeoTron | that type of questing seems almost completely absent in my limited experience of partial HF/BT questign |
| 19:27.35 | nevcairiel | ya dragonblight was nice too |
| 19:27.41 | nevcairiel | grizzly is a bit more scatterd |
| 19:27.44 | nevcairiel | but not that bad |
| 19:27.56 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: pretty much all of BC was that kind of questing though |
| 19:28.07 | NeoTron | you mostly sequentially moved between quest hubs |
| 19:28.08 | nevcairiel | ya and i didnt really like it =P |
| 19:28.15 | NeoTron | I preferred it :P |
| 19:28.16 | Dashkal | NeoTron: Disagree. The 3-4 quests active at a time were usually all in the same spot. Go here and (a) kill some moss elementals, (b) kill some sprouts (c) kill this named guy |
| 19:28.18 | Dashkal | to give an example |
| 19:28.24 | nevcairiel | ya |
| 19:28.29 | nevcairiel | grizzly is nice that way |
| 19:28.33 | nevcairiel | you only have a handful of quests |
| 19:28.36 | nevcairiel | but you can all do them |
| 19:28.42 | NeoTron | this is also why I like to be in beta |
| 19:28.49 | NeoTron | because it let's me optimize for release |
| 19:29.02 | NeoTron | I don't really like being lost althoguh it is fun to explore... :) |
| 19:29.27 | Dashkal | I have had to resort to wowhead exactly three times so far. I'm loving this |
| 19:29.42 | Dashkal | two of those were just my fail at reading the quest correctly |
| 19:29.46 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 19:29.54 | nevcairiel | i had one quest tht actually send you to the east |
| 19:29.57 | nevcairiel | but mob was in the west |
| 19:30.01 | Dashkal | oops |
| 19:30.06 | nevcairiel | well reported it, so hopefully fixed =P |
| 19:30.37 | NeoTron | those are fun |
| 19:30.54 | NeoTron | I have to get used to "far to the X" often not being very far at all |
| 19:30.59 | Fisker- | don't you hate me NeoTron? :( |
| 19:31.04 | NeoTron | but sometimes "far to the X" means go X until the edge of the world |
| 19:31.06 | Dashkal | I keep getting messed up by the warcraft scale |
| 19:31.12 | NeoTron | Fisker-: of course, do I have to say it too? |
| 19:31.27 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 19:31.27 | Dashkal | NPCs see the world at actual size, we see it where you can get on a hourse and go one end of a contenent to the other in an hour |
| 19:31.38 | NeoTron | it might be my limited two zone experience but so far the zones don't feel very large |
| 19:31.48 | Dashkal | HF feels pretty huge to me |
| 19:32.02 | NeoTron | I know overall it's bigger than outlands |
| 19:32.04 | nevcairiel | all the zones are huge |
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| 19:38.56 | Arrowmaster | arrow@warm-nutz:~$ rm -rf /home/arrow/repos/svn/wowace/ |
| 19:39.03 | Arrowmaster | still waiting...... |
| 19:41.44 | charon | how many files? :) |
| 19:42.16 | Arrowmaster | atleast 75169 |
| 19:47.54 | Obelixprime | lo |
| 19:47.57 | Obelixprime | l |
| 19:48.03 | Obelixprime | why don't you rm -rf / |
| 19:52.34 | Gngsk | anyone here hip to the dev status of aguf in branches? is it all ace3 wotlk? |
| 19:52.41 | Gngsk | I mean if I use it on live will it explode? |
| 19:52.59 | nocts|work | Am I a sadist for liking oUF? |
| 19:53.10 | Gngsk | i doubt it |
| 19:53.14 | Gngsk | a lot of people seem to like it |
| 19:53.28 | Gngsk | i'm sure it's great, i just haven't gotten around to messing with it |
| 19:53.47 | Gngsk | i have loved just about every addon that i've installed which was written by haste |
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| 19:57.08 | KriLL3 | not at all creepy |
| 20:01.58 | Daemona | grumbles about the status of coldarra. |
| 20:13.18 | CIA-25 | 03trasher * r81110 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-frFR.lua: |
| 20:13.18 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 20:13.18 | CIA-25 | - update frFr |
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| 20:28.14 | Balstor | is there any guides for migrating your addons from Ace 2 to ace 3?? |
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| 20:28.54 | Balstor | and yhea I know I capatalized it wrong :P |
| 20:30.19 | NeoTron | I know an addon I'd like to have for M'uru |
| 20:30.23 | NeoTron | a phase 2 duration timer |
| 20:30.28 | NeoTron | that shows me how long we've been in phase 2 |
| 20:31.15 | NeoTron | and also when people die... raid leader tool |
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| 20:44.01 | CIA-25 | 03pettigrow * r81111 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-frFR.lua: AckisRecipeList: frFR Update |
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| 20:47.28 | NeoTron | M'uru is the killer of raid leaders. I have to make a raid that just makes me not like doing it (sitting some of our best and most loyal players) |
| 20:50.16 | KriLL3 | why not skip him? |
| 20:51.12 | JerleMinara | can't |
| 20:51.12 | CIA-25 | 03ackis * r81112 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 20:51.12 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 20:51.12 | CIA-25 | - Comment updates |
| 20:51.12 | CIA-25 | - Update text dump to make it look a bit better (removed new lines) |
| 20:51.12 | CIA-25 | - Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p) |
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| 20:51.15 | NeoTron | KriLL3: because.. what else would we do 3 out of 4 days per week? |
| 20:51.18 | NeoTron | BT/Hyjal? Lawl |
| 20:51.18 | Balstor | bahh hate DCing |
| 20:56.24 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swq9hBdvkKU |
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| 21:00.52 | NeoTron | so my immediate question after "wtf would you do that for" is why did his helm fall off? |
| 21:00.59 | NeoTron | seems amazingly ... dumb :P |
| 21:01.48 | CIA-25 | 03ackis * r81113 10AckisRecipeList/ (4 files): |
| 21:01.48 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 21:01.48 | CIA-25 | - Comment updates, updated filter flags |
| 21:01.48 | CIA-25 | - Move local/db stuff from toc -> xml files |
| 21:01.48 | CIA-25 | - Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p) |
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| 21:05.29 | NeoTron | AckisWork: do you have a pre-commit hook that adds the dry-coded line? |
| 21:06.11 | AckisWork | no, it's a line in a .txt file |
| 21:06.23 | AckisWork | my pre-commit hook runs it through luac -p however |
| 21:07.08 | Fisker- | slaps AckisWork around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:08.06 | Fisker- | you cannot stop me AckisWork |
| 21:08.24 | AckisWork | meh |
| 21:08.27 | AckisWork | I'm not in a good mood |
| 21:08.32 | AckisWork | I want to punch a baby |
| 21:08.45 | nocts|work | Fisker-: Again, with the lack of RFC compliance |
| 21:09.17 | Fisker- | AckisWork then go ahead |
| 21:09.32 | AckisWork | punches Fisker- because he's a big baby. |
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| 21:19.28 | AckisWork | set = function(info, v) myfunc(v) end <--- Can I specify how many parameters are passed? |
| 21:19.36 | Antiarc | YAY |
| 21:19.38 | Antiarc | PATCH GOING UP |
| 21:19.39 | Antiarc | YAY |
| 21:19.46 | Antiarc | We will be taking down the Beta realms at 2:30PM Pacific time today August 29th 2008 to update to the latest build. |
| 21:20.03 | smcn | oh sweet |
| 21:20.18 | smcn | just got the maintenance message ig didn't realize it was a build |
| 21:20.23 | KriLL3 | what's that in real time? |
| 21:20.30 | Stanzilla | dances with Antiarc |
| 21:20.53 | KriLL3 | perhaps this patch won't crash 24/7 |
| 21:21.38 | Daemona | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336456482&postId=93355976100&sid=2000#0 |
| 21:21.56 | Stanzilla | too slow :P |
| 21:22.19 | Daemona | what time zone is blizz time again? |
| 21:22.30 | Daemona | my iphone doesnt know irvine, ca ^^ |
| 21:22.55 | AckisWork | PST |
| 21:23.08 | Daemona | thats like, LA ? |
| 21:23.26 | Daemona | sorry for being an ignorant european ;) |
| 21:23.36 | nevcairiel | pacific time |
| 21:23.40 | nevcairiel | -9 gmt |
| 21:23.46 | Odlaw | did they post the patch to download yet? |
| 21:23.52 | nevcairiel | or -8 |
| 21:23.54 | nevcairiel | -9 from us :P |
| 21:23.58 | Antiarc | Yeah, all of California is PST |
| 21:24.00 | Daemona | yeah a well known city in the PST zone is? LA? |
| 21:24.04 | Antiarc | The servers just went down |
| 21:24.40 | Ac-town | 14:24:37 |
| 21:24.49 | NeoTron | so I hope this build has some sweeping changes for warlocks to complement the stacking change that rendered warlocks pointless beyond the one healthstone dispenser |
| 21:25.06 | Daemona | never mind.... its obvisouly 14:24 over at LA which kinda answers my question. |
| 21:25.59 | Obelixprime | what? |
| 21:26.09 | Obelixprime | the new beta build is coming out soon? |
| 21:26.10 | CIA-25 | 03ackis * r81114 10Querier/ (Querier.lua Querier.toc): (log message trimmed) |
| 21:26.10 | CIA-25 | Querier: |
| 21:26.10 | CIA-25 | - Version bump |
| 21:26.10 | CIA-25 | - Added spell and item link scanning, not sure if parameters will be passed correctly, if they don't run: |
| 21:26.10 | CIA-25 | /script Querier:SpellQuery(start,end) |
| 21:26.11 | CIA-25 | /script Querier:ItemQuery(start,end) |
| 21:26.13 | CIA-25 | - Start = start ID, end = end ID |
| 21:26.18 | smcn | wao |
| 21:26.24 | KriLL3 | no idea, might be tomorrow or something |
| 21:26.32 | AckisWork | ~seen chaud |
| 21:26.34 | purl | chaud <i=chaudhar@71-85-134-215.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7d 4h 25m 7s ago, saying: 'Trell- cant even keep his movies online, dont trust a thing he has to say =o'. |
| 21:26.42 | Obelixprime | is it going to include the raid buff changes? |
| 21:26.49 | NeoTron | so have they been updating the wrath talent previews lately? |
| 21:26.52 | KriLL3 | how could we know? |
| 21:27.01 | Obelixprime | INSIDER INFORMATION |
| 21:27.04 | Obelixprime | obviously |
| 21:27.06 | NeoTron | used to be ahead of the build but now it seems to be .. not |
| 21:28.09 | KriLL3 | I can't even login on the forums, something is broken |
| 21:29.10 | NeoTron | so I think I forsee the need for a WotLK addon |
| 21:29.29 | NeoTron | "Raid Stack Check" to see if the raid has all needed debuffs and buffs |
| 21:29.56 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 21:29.58 | Obelixprime | that's sad |
| 21:30.00 | Obelixprime | but useful |
| 21:30.12 | KriLL3 | motw doesn't stack with anything :D |
| 21:30.20 | KriLL3 | we're still useful, hurrah! |
| 21:30.32 | NeoTron | and tell you if you're wasting raid slots ond ebuffers you don't need |
| 21:30.47 | Zyndrome | "buff X - lol not needed - oh ok, buff Y then - kek nope, no need for that too" etc |
| 21:30.49 | NeoTron | "wtf is that warlock in the raid for, you already have one! get a real dpser!" |
| 21:30.50 | Zyndrome | D: |
| 21:31.12 | KriLL3 | NeoTron: warlocks dps a bit too well... |
| 21:31.16 | NeoTron | KriLL3: LK |
| 21:31.18 | NeoTron | not BC |
| 21:31.20 | NeoTron | different beasts |
| 21:31.21 | KriLL3 | oh |
| 21:31.31 | NeoTron | in LK warlocks should dps less than mages due to better raid utility [sic] |
| 21:31.42 | NeoTron | ofc that is now a thing of the past so we'll see |
| 21:31.57 | NeoTron | mages are one of the classes with unique raid benefits now, locks have none |
| 21:32.00 | KriLL3 | I'm just fond of the *Shadowbolt* *Shadowbolt* *Shadowbolt* *Shadowbolt* *Shadowbolt* *Shadowbolt* *Shadowbolt* *HP->MP* *Shadowbolt* *Shadowbolt* *Shadowbolt* *Shadowbolt* *Shadowbolt* locks |
| 21:32.14 | NeoTron | 10% crit to target will become a necessary debuff and only mages provide it |
| 21:32.17 | KriLL3 | yes I'm a tank, how did you know? =P |
| 21:32.23 | CIA-25 | 03pericles * r81115 10DisqoDice/ (. DisqoDice.lua DisqoDice.toc Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 21:32.23 | CIA-25 | DisqoDice: Initial Commit |
| 21:32.23 | CIA-25 | - Enhance Shaman timer information for Water Shield, Shocks, Windfury and Stormstrike. |
| 21:33.22 | KriLL3 | had that happen on 3% at neffy the attempt before our first kill, we were mighty happy with that warlock |
| 21:43.18 | CIA-25 | 03pericles * r81116 10DisqoDice/: |
| 21:43.18 | CIA-25 | DisqoDice: - |
| 21:43.19 | CIA-25 | Initial commit with Libraries added |
| 21:45.39 | CIA-25 | quelevel: 03Tekkub 07master * r0e9a439 10/ README.textile : Add readme - http://is.gd/23cp |
| 21:45.39 | CIA-25 | quelevel: 03Tekkub 07master * r8a40a55 10/ Quelevel.lua : Fix error with GetGossipActiveQuests iter - http://is.gd/23cq |
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| 22:52.58 | Primer | Has anyone experienced, or know someone has experienced, this: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6441211400 |
| 22:53.07 | Primer | Because I've been experiencing it |
| 22:53.40 | Primer | Yet, as every other reporter claims, all other games play fine |
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| 22:55.58 | Archarodim | are you using an NTFS or Fat32 partition? |
| 22:56.08 | Primer | And all the checks check out |
| 22:56.12 | Primer | NTFS on XP |
| 22:56.28 | Primer | If I move wow from one drive to another, the problem persists |
| 22:56.44 | Primer | I've re-installed WoW as well |
| 22:56.47 | Archarodim | have you verified in the system event logs if you had disks related warning/errors? |
| 22:56.54 | Primer | onto the other disk |
| 22:57.00 | Primer | there are none |
| 22:57.21 | Primer | been up and down the event log |
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| 22:58.23 | Archarodim | have you checked your RAM with gnu memtest86+ ? |
| 22:58.46 | Primer | That's next |
| 22:59.03 | Primer | I've run linux all day for a day, updated my distro, and it was fine |
| 22:59.09 | Primer | granted, that's on a separate disk |
| 22:59.26 | Archarodim | else you can also try to move your WoW folder to another hard drive (no need to re-install) |
| 22:59.40 | Balstor | what level of textures are you using? |
| 22:59.57 | Primer | Yeah, I've moved it several times already |
| 23:00.02 | Primer | copied it over from 2 other machines |
| 23:00.27 | Primer | Textures is one notch from the bottom, IIRC |
| 23:00.39 | Archarodim | have you tried to move it on an external USB hard drive (not connectd through an USB hub)? |
| 23:01.13 | Primer | I haven't gone that far. I have a drive, but it's formatted ext3 at the moment |
| 23:01.20 | Primer | and it's got some data I'd need to move off |
| 23:01.24 | Primer | but that's a good idea |
| 23:01.54 | Archarodim | your using SATA or IDE? |
| 23:01.58 | Primer | both |
| 23:02.05 | Balstor | it sounds like a falure in the hard disk driver, I know nvidia motherboard chipsets had that issue ( and may still do) |
| 23:02.32 | Primer | Well, I do have an nvidia controller |
| 23:02.45 | Primer | I updated the bios a few days ago |
| 23:02.49 | Primer | but the problem persists |
| 23:02.58 | Archarodim | it can also be related to bugged HDD firmware (bug related to NCQ) |
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| 23:03.23 | Primer | I'm currently running it from the OS drive |
| 23:03.26 | Archarodim | I used to have a maxtor affected with this bug... |
| 23:03.28 | Primer | which is IDE |
| 23:03.32 | Balstor | go search around i know there was some talk about hat a few months ago, i just don't remember all the details ( I onlu use scsi, no nvidia in the marketplace) |
| 23:03.39 | Primer | Check out that forum thread though |
| 23:03.45 | Primer | TONS of people reporting the same thing |
| 23:03.57 | nevcairiel | tons of people run nvidia hardware, though =P |
| 23:04.12 | Primer | plus they're reporting that they've tried all the suggested solutions, and nothing seems to help |
| 23:05.25 | Archarodim | you should check your RAM before trying other solutions |
| 23:05.28 | Primer | I can trigger the error with a specific set of circumstances |
| 23:05.55 | Primer | an example, I queue for a bg in shat, and I start flying out to do the herb collection daily while I wait |
| 23:06.01 | Primer | as soon as I zone out of shat, bam |
| 23:08.20 | Zyndrome | http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=fKK933KK6Gg |
| 23:08.21 | Zyndrome | haha oh wow |
| 23:08.55 | Archarodim | that's interesting, you could eliminate the HDD related issue possibility by moving your WoW install to another drive, if you're able to recreate the crash as you described above then it's not a HDD issue |
| 23:09.07 | Mera | sound like ram bugs that happens only when a part of the damaged mem is used |
| 23:09.31 | Primer | Mera: I agree |
| 23:09.33 | Mera | already solved ram bug with memtest86 & friends too |
| 23:09.51 | Primer | as in "identified the bad chip and replaced it"? |
| 23:09.57 | Archarodim | with memtest86+ make sure to make a full pass |
| 23:10.24 | Mera | yes i have identified it by doing test , when it fails i remove one slot and check again to identify which one fails |
| 23:10.51 | Primer | I can actually boot memtest directly from grub |
| 23:11.02 | Mera | really good tool memtest |
| 23:11.21 | Primer | I just don't trust it, as I've had it report that all is well, and have had bad memory |
| 23:11.44 | Archarodim | after doing a full pass (all tests)? |
| 23:11.56 | Primer | yeah, letting it run overnight |
| 23:12.30 | Archarodim | hmmm that's strange... is it memetest86+ or memtest86? |
| 23:12.47 | Primer | I don't recall |
| 23:14.41 | Archarodim | well try with http://www.memtest.org/ you can install it on a USB stick |
| 23:18.21 | Primer | My box actually boots from a grub based USB stick already |
| 23:18.24 | Primer | it's quite handy |
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| 23:39.26 | Primer | wow, memtest already found something |
| 23:41.49 | Primer | It fails consistently on the same address too |
| 23:42.01 | Primer | perhaps re-seating the memory will help...or not... |
| 23:42.03 | Primer | sigh... |
| 23:44.55 | thul | http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs37/i/2008/242/9/a/Corner_by_cainadamsson.jpg |
| 23:45.06 | thul | http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs37/i/2008/242/b/8/Elevator_by_cainadamsson.jpg |
| 23:46.14 | Dashkal | I can't really understand the facination with those super-close shots |
| 23:46.37 | thul | well, I can't understand the fascination people have with madonne or/and justin timberlake, so i guess tastes differ :-P |
| 23:46.59 | Dashkal | Not discounting it. I really don't understand it |
| 23:47.13 | Dashkal | I can set my lil campera up on a tripod, set it to digital macro, and make those too. |
| 23:47.31 | thul | well, that could be said about all images. |
| 23:47.37 | thul | "i can take pictures in color too" |
| 23:47.43 | thul | that is a quite similar statement :-) |
| 23:47.56 | Dashkal | ponders a better way to articulate this |
| 23:48.48 | Dashkal | Many of the ones I've seen appear to be a shot in that style for no purpose other than to be in that style. The subject itself seems to be of less importance |
| 23:49.01 | thul | hehe, I think I get your point, but it kind of belittles my composition. "your composition does not exist, you just put a lens towards a target close in" |
| 23:49.04 | thul | which is not really what the intention was. |
| 23:49.18 | thul | the intention was to convey a mood, something I thought i did, but obviosly not for you :-) |
| 23:49.28 | Dashkal | It's a difficult complaint to phrase. Don't take it as an implied insult, just a lack of understanding |
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| 23:50.10 | thul | as most of the images i take, I try to just... catch a mood. |
| 23:50.31 | thul | I don't really try to do much else, it is an abstract thing, especially with low dof images |
| 23:50.38 | Dashkal | nods |
| 23:50.42 | Ackis | lua> string.find("1234 5677", "%d+ %d+") |
| 23:50.42 | lua_bot | Ackis: 1, 9 |
| 23:50.43 | Dashkal | In that light I can see the idea |
| 23:50.49 | Dashkal | Thank you :) |
| 23:52.23 | thul | no need to thank me :-) I try to think like an abstract painter.. try to use forms, colors (or lack of) and structure to just.. set a mood. |
| 23:52.54 | Dashkal | heh, the thanks was for showing me what I missed. My current mood just isn't conductive to that form of art (I'm in the middle of writing java UI code) so I plain missed the idea. |
| 23:54.03 | thul | I just read a book about using differnet shapes to set mood and how non-narrative images still can communicate |
| 23:54.06 | thul | so I try to experiment :-) |
| 23:54.31 | Ackis | lua> opt, val = string:match("1234 4444", "([a-z0-9]+)[ ]?(.*)");print(opt) |
| 23:54.32 | lua_bot | Ackis: luabot:1: calling 'match' on bad self (string expected, got table) |
| 23:55.06 | Ackis | lua> opt, val = string.match("1234 4444", "([a-z0-9]+)[ ]?(.*)");print(opt) |
| 23:55.07 | lua_bot | Ackis: 1234 |
| 23:55.52 | sb | mhh - recruit a friend thingie is soo sick |
| 23:56.06 | sb | wailing caverns + quests = +4 levels |
| 23:56.16 | sb | (with lvl 70 in group) |
| 23:56.45 | sb | its like 6k XP / quest |
| 23:59.55 | Ackis | lua> return isnumber("1234") |
| 23:59.56 | lua_bot | Ackis: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'isnumber' (a nil value) |
