IRC log for #wowace on 20080823

00:00.09KriLL3I have to trudge through pug HC runs with "omg dps metar!?" ppl
00:00.11dieckI can't get enough :) No that much time to play by now, still ~250 Badges short of what I would like.
00:00.24dodgaKriLL3: Get a Hyjal PuG or something :o
00:00.30dodgaand clear  Kara
00:00.39KriLL3I hate that blizz through it was funny to put some of the best pvp stuff on pve vendor tokens
00:00.40winkillerBadgerzahn
00:00.45dieckwe got betrayed by Blizzard, though. were just finished with Karazhan when they started giving badges
00:00.53winkillerdieck: same
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00:00.59KriLL3dodga: I haven't ever been to either place, I don't have a clue how to tank either
00:01.03dodgaI've cleared Kara for nearly a year and that damn Mongoose recipe did not drop ONCE
00:01.15winkillermangle, maul. FFF, mangle, maul.
00:01.18winkillerso you MT kara
00:01.19Pneumatusisnt storm peaks supposed to be open now?
00:01.24Stanzillaag`: have you fixed the problem with "tapped" mobs in aguf yet?
00:01.26dieckdodga: my priest got it on the first day :)
00:01.28KriLL3everyone going kara expects everyone in the raid to be 100% certain how everything works
00:01.37KriLL3a bit hard to get into it at this point
00:01.47winkillerI miss wiping on Attumen for 4h
00:01.48dieckdodga: followed by soulfrost and whatwasthatotherthingcalled?
00:01.50dodgaKriLL3: Sunder Armor, Sunder Armor, Sunder Armor, Sunder Armor, Devastate, Shield Slam, Spell Reflect, Shield Block, Devastate... or something? :o
00:01.51winkilleron our first kara night
00:01.56EllipsisKriLL3: you know you're allowed to read up on it before going, right?
00:01.58KriLL3dodga: I'm feral
00:02.06ashbdodga: replace all SAs with Devastate
00:02.08KriLL3Ellipsis: I have no idea where/how
00:02.08dodgadieck: diaf. I just got Soulfrost, never seen Mongoose or Sunfire drop
00:02.10dieckdodga: then we did one single ZA run. Executioner ftw ;)
00:02.13dodgaMan I hate that place
00:02.18dodgaashb: Never played warrior :D
00:02.24EllipsisKriLL3: the usual suspects? wowwiki, wowhead, ...
00:02.27winkillerit's awesome
00:02.28dodgadieck: Got Executioner on 2nd run or so
00:02.32winkillerprot pbp is so much fun
00:02.35ashbdodga: as of 2.3 (i think) devastate is SA + dmg
00:02.40KriLL3Ellipsis: doesn't really give a good indepth guide how the raids works
00:02.44ashbso only reason to use SA is on a sheeped mob
00:02.49KriLL3or where to go or what to do etc
00:02.54Ellipsiswowwiki has quite a bit of strat info
00:03.05Ellipsisand there's always our old pal google if you're really lost
00:03.10winkillerdoing the pulls is more important than boss strats as MT
00:03.10KriLL3yeah but it's generally not from a tank's pov
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00:03.31winkillerkara is 80% tank and spank for the tank
00:03.37dodgaBosskillers.com has information what every class/role should do
00:03.39dieckKriLL3: there are not many fights were you'll have to tank, if you go as 2nd tank.
00:03.41Xinhuanbosskiller.com and raidguru.net has detailed strats on every boss
00:03.50KriLL3winkiller: I love that FF doesn't deal any dmg at all, the warlocks start casting shadowbolt spam the second I FF and the rogues run to attack em before they gear near me =P
00:04.05winkillerKriLL3: normal :P
00:04.05Gnarfozso, can anyone share what they closed Storm Peaks for? (haven't even patched to 8820, yet >_>)
00:04.17winkillerwhatever that storm peaks is
00:04.29dieckKriLL3: maybe Atumen, but most tanks handle both by now. Maybe Opera. And Netherspite. All other encounters would not require a second tank :)
00:04.32ashbdruid stances have thier own CD like warrior stances right?
00:04.40EllipsisGnarfoz: well for one you couldn't die there because the graveyard was in no man's land
00:04.43KriLL3I hate "omg dps metar?!!?!" people...
00:04.46KriLL3ashb: no
00:04.55dodgaGnarfoz: They're building a Pizza Hut there... :o
00:04.56GnarfozEllipsis: fun, continue oO ;D
00:04.57ashbgcd still?
00:05.02dodgaKriLL3: DPS > all :o
00:05.10KriLL3ashb: errm they don't have cd
00:05.28KriLL3you can instantly switch
00:05.30ashbi coulda sworn they did when i was first playing about 9 months ago
00:05.37KriLL3yeah they did then
00:05.38dieckKriLL3: I do think they have gcd
00:05.59KriLL3dieck: but how can you switch from bearform, use a pot and then go back to bearform with one push of a macro?
00:06.07KriLL3or powershift?
00:06.21ashbcanceling a form doesn't use a cd
00:06.27ashbbut i'll check in a mo when i get off this gryphon
00:06.31dieckKriLL3: taking potions don't start gcd?
00:06.40dieckKriLL3: and dropping doesn't either
00:06.44KriLL3oh
00:07.01dieckKriLL3: potions start the potions cd, but not gcd iirc
00:07.11ashbistr its a 1s cooldown on the stances too
00:07.15ashbbut will double check that
00:07.36winkillerjust shifting into
00:07.38winkillernot out
00:07.49winkillerso... out _> free / pot -> free / in -> GCD
00:08.01ashbsounds about what i remember
00:08.20winkillergood night
00:08.28KriLL3imo blizz should do something about the need for powershifting / shifting repeatedly to remove CC, it's horribly annoying and feels broken
00:08.29winkillerI wish you sweet dreams of popcorn and pizza
00:08.48KriLL3popcorn pizza, with toffee on top?
00:08.58fewyni love shifting to break stuff!
00:09.06KriLL3fewyn: it eats mana like candy
00:09.07fewyni don't like shifting to pot, but that's getting fixed
00:09.20ashbwhat cos druids aren't hard enough to kill anyway?
00:09.33KriLL3ashb: ferals are damn easy to kill
00:09.42ashbtrue
00:09.42fewynnot if i'm in my tank gear KriLL3
00:09.52KriLL3fewyn: then you don't deal any damage
00:09.52dieckwinkiller got a point :) gn8
00:09.58KriLL3and casters don't care about your armor
00:10.03fewynyes, I'm the annoyance factor in 5v5
00:10.10fewynYOU CAN'T KILL ME NANANANANA
00:10.26KriLL3errm can't a mage kill you in a few seconds?
00:10.47ashbsilly squishy clothies
00:10.53fewynnot if I feral charge it midcast
00:10.54fewynor los
00:11.14KriLL3fewyn: you can't los a frost mage, and charge got cooldown
00:11.35Zyndromeoh lord
00:11.57fewynso?!
00:12.03ZyndromeI turn off "Path of Frost" , and the combatlog gets spammed with "Path of Frost fades from xxxx"
00:12.06fewynin the expansion i can shift cat and do it all over again!
00:12.09KriLL3I love classes with pets... can't los both of them, can't drink, can't bandage
00:12.38KriLL3fewyn: doesn't bear charge and cat charge share cooldown?... dunno...
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00:13.26fewyni have no idea KriLL3 =p
00:13.31KriLL3It'd try it if I could get into wow atm...
00:13.38KriLL3coldarra is fail today
00:14.04fewyni'd try it but i'm doing mount hyjal and then sunwell trash farming tonight
00:14.11ashbit probably will
00:14.25ashbthe 2 warrior interupts (zerker stand and shield one) share cooldown
00:15.22KriLL3does shadowstep turn you to face your target btw?
00:15.33ashbfsvo of face
00:15.41KriLL3cat charge feels horribly odd since it doesn't, and it's a lot slower than bear charge
00:15.41ashbi think lag can mess it up
00:15.50KriLL3you have to manually turn to face the target
00:15.58ashbcat charge?
00:16.02ashbwhat level do you get that?
00:16.02KriLL3yeah
00:16.10KriLL3any
00:16.15ashbsprint?
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00:16.23KriLL3or rather you need the charge talent
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00:16.25KriLL3?
00:16.40KriLL3if you get the charge talent in the talent tree you have catform charge
00:16.40ashbdont remember that
00:16.45KriLL3it's in LK
00:16.49ashbahh right
00:16.51ashbwith you
00:17.22KriLL3http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=49376
00:17.32KriLL3requires level 20
00:17.36KriLL3the level you get catform
00:17.51KriLL3I didn't need to train it, dunno if that's gonna change or not
00:17.54kappaccino`oh yeah they change feral charge to include cat form
00:17.56kappaccino`<3
00:18.06KriLL3kappaccino`: it's different in catform though
00:18.17kappaccino`it's still an interrupt right?
00:18.29KriLL3it's slower, costs 10 energy, makes you jump behind your victim but doens't make you face them and it dazes em
00:18.31KriLL3no
00:18.34KriLL3not that I know
00:18.42ashbnot needing pathing is nice
00:18.46KriLL3haven't had a chance to try though
00:18.56KriLL3yeah
00:19.05KriLL3but it would be even nicer if it made you face your opponent
00:19.13ashbyou'll live
00:19.13KriLL3does shadow step do that?
00:19.18kappaccino`im sure they'll iron out the kinks
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00:19.22ashbdont play a rogue so dont know
00:19.31kappaccino`let me ask real quick
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00:19.48KriLL3I don't think it does interrupt spellcasting :(
00:19.55kappaccino`yeah
00:19.58KriLL3which imo makes it kinda useless
00:20.03kappaccino`shadowstep faces you to your targets back
00:20.11ashbKriLL3: the comments imply that if you do it on a stationary target you will be facing them
00:20.18KriLL3kappaccino`: bah catcharge doesn't :(
00:20.24kappaccino`:(
00:20.33KriLL3ashb: doesn't on moving, I know that
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00:21.13KriLL3ashb: only reference to facing I see in the comments is that it doesn't
00:21.47KriLL3also it dazes the target, I'm guessing anyone with an AoE will mash that key if they're dazed
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00:22.17KriLL3though it's nice against mountfags in the arena I suppose
00:23.01KriLL3"I've read that the ~0.5 travel time for this ability is somewhat mitigated by the fact that the daze is applied when you activate the skill, not when you land behind the target." means the target got 0.5s to push their aoe spell before you can land pounce, bah
00:25.21KriLL3I wish it was a carbon copy of shadowstep, makes you face them and no travel time
00:25.51kappaccino`haha yeah
00:26.05kappaccino`you wouldn't want it to be lolintercept charge and end up miles away from your target
00:26.07kappaccino`poor warriors
00:26.17KriLL3any aoe:capable class worth their salt can spam their aoe button in less than 0.5s
00:26.32KriLL3kappaccino`: druids have that also
00:26.49KriLL3stun/charge while charging and you can end up really far away
00:27.10KriLL3always fun charging a stunned target and ending up 10m behind
00:27.33KriLL3especially fun with druid range bug
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00:29.39Ackisany users of ackis recipe list here?
00:29.58Xinhuanme
00:30.14Ackiswith the latest version, do you notice any lag when you open a trade skill/do a scan?
00:30.20Xinhuanno
00:30.32Xinhuan0.935
00:30.34KriLL3what does ackis recipe list do?
00:30.36Ackisk
00:30.37Ackis~arl
00:30.38purlhmm... arl is a poorly named add-on (8% lame), 92% dry-coded developed by Ackis. Will tell you what recipes/beast skills you're missing however, and where to get them.  It will work on Wrath of the Lich King beta servers as well.
00:30.57Xinhuanit just complains
00:31.03AckisXinhuan: thanks, was getting lag on my main but wasn't sure if that was another mod or ARL
00:31.05Xinhuanwhen i open my JC window at the same time as my enchanting one
00:31.13Xinhuanbut both are open and valid
00:31.22KriLL3does it work with etradewindow?
00:31.40Ackisyah because it gets confused on what one to scan and I was too lazy to fix it 100% when it's going away in wrath
00:31.46Ackisnever heard of etradewindow
00:31.51Xinhuanit shuld scan both ackis
00:31.55Xinhuansince both are scannable
00:32.36Xinhuanbut if u mean which profession to display in the results pane
00:32.38Xinhuanthen yeah perhaps
00:32.53AckisXinhuan: yes which one to display results
00:33.17KriLL3sorry "AdvancedTradeSkillWindow"
00:33.27AckisKriLL3: yes it works w/ ATSW
00:33.40KriLL3kk :)
00:34.13Xinhuani bought a 240g storms deck today ackis
00:34.23Ackislucky bastard
00:34.26ashb240g is ... cheap
00:34.29Xinhuani was like wtf
00:34.34Xinhuanace-8 are each like 30g
00:34.38Xinhuanso yeah
00:34.46XuerianXinhuan: Did you NEED to get any richer?
00:34.48KriLL3usually around 800g
00:34.51kappaccino`how much golds does your mains have on them now?
00:34.56Xinhuanover 100k
00:35.00kappaccino`back when I quit december 07, he had 13k
00:35.06kappaccino`Xinhuan, good god
00:35.13Xinhuani can't realy decide if i should turn in the deck for 350 rep
00:35.14ag`give some
00:35.16Xinhuanor resell for profit
00:35.28ag`or I will delete all my addons
00:35.32ag`:D
00:35.43KriLL3is ATSW broken in LK btw?
00:35.43Xinhuanits ok, i don't currently use any of your addons, but i might in the future ;p
00:35.48ag`well it was worth a try
00:36.12kappaccino`o noes :(
00:36.21ag`I mean, who wouldn't want to use MiniType, for example
00:36.45kappaccino`hey big up for ag_uf until i switched to pitbull
00:36.50kappaccino`used it for quite some time
00:36.53Xinhuani'm also at 544 lockboxes now ackis
00:36.59Xinhuan846 more to go
00:37.06KriLL3Xinhuan: huh?
00:37.19dodgaXinhuan: human?
00:37.21ag`don't worry kappaccino`, do you have wotlk?
00:37.22Xinhuangnome
00:37.26dodgahm
00:37.36KriLL3what does lockboxes have to do with anything?
00:37.36Xinhuanso need 1400 from revered -> exalted ;p
00:37.51dodgahow much was it again for one turnin?
00:37.51AckisXinhuan: debug welfare epics for me please :P
00:37.57Xinhuanackis is human so i think he has that advantage
00:37.57KriLL3does AdvancedTradeSkillWindow work in LK? I'm scared of trying...
00:37.59dodga25 or 75?
00:38.06AckisXinhuan: I'm a troll
00:38.07Xinhuankrill i'll say no
00:38.17KriLL3Xinhuan: anything like it that's more recent?
00:38.19EllipsisAckis: in more ways than one :3
00:38.22KriLL3latest update is 146 days old
00:38.24Xinhuanthe tradeskill and enchantskill ui are merged into 1 and redone
00:38.26Ackislol
00:38.27Xinhuanso everything's broken
00:38.33AckisEllipsis: I thought you liked me :(
00:38.34KriLL3yay...
00:38.39AckisXinhuan: ARL works on beta :P
00:38.43EllipsisAckis: only when I'm drunk
00:38.43KriLL3know of anything like it still in development?
00:38.45Ellipsis;)
00:38.51Xinhuan4 of my addons work in beta
00:38.52Xinhuan;p
00:38.52Ackisgets Ellipsis drunk.
00:38.55Xinhuanand i have 8
00:39.02Ellipsislikes Ackis
00:39.05Ackisw00t
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00:39.41PolarinaXinhuan: All my addons work in beta, took me less than 2 minutes to get all of them working.
00:39.43KriLL3I got 173 addons, if you count fubar parts
00:39.44kappaccino`ag`, not yet :D
00:39.51KriLL3almost none of em work in LK
00:39.53dodgaHm so THAT'S how it works...
00:39.58Ellipsisgood for you Polarina
00:40.02XinhuanPolarina: the addons of mine that doesn't work involve secure stuff :(
00:41.20kappaccino`Ellipsis also lieks mudkipz
00:41.20PolarinaXinhuan: I tend to transparently abstract the API that is likely to get changed.
00:41.20Xinhuanits pretty much a pain to have to relearn something new
00:41.21Ellipsisshh kappaccino`~
00:41.21PolarinaXinhuan: One of my addon works with 2.0, 2.1, 2.2, 2.3 and 2.4.
00:41.29njal*sits and waits for curse to approve his new empty project* :)
00:41.34Ellipsisone of mine works with 1.0-3.0
00:41.40Ellipsisthen again it's trivial so
00:41.44PolarinaEllipsis: Hello World?
00:41.47Ellipsisnot quite
00:41.52Ellipsisit's useful, but still trivial
00:42.05Ellipsis(also relies on the fact that blizz doesn't mess with chat frame code because they're just as scared of FCF as we are)
00:42.08PolarinaEllipsis: Calculator?
00:42.24JerleMinarafcf?
00:42.34EllipsisFloatingChatFrame.lua
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00:42.59njal:D
00:43.01Ackisickle
00:43.32NivFreakwe have to list to druid QQ off of your cell phone now?
00:43.34NivFreaklisten
00:43.47PolarinaEllipsis: Actually, I designed that addon during 2.0 and haven't broken since. Only really minor issues with 3.0 that they abandoned the old crafting API (Had to delete the hooks, trivial) and a call to MoneyFrame_SetType.
00:44.12PolarinaKriLL3|cell: Failed.
00:45.05KriLL3|cellNo, i can't type quickly on a keypad
00:45.37KriLL3|cellI just read on it when afk
00:45.38Xuerianthe hell cell phone you have that has a irc client?
00:45.49Ellipsislots of cell phones can run java
00:46.10Xuerian.. Fair enough
00:46.37PolarinaKriLL3|cell: 66633322266688777 7777330999666880222 2668
00:46.56KriLL3|cellAny phone that runs java can do irc
00:47.01Ackisfyi: i hurt
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00:56.41njalanyone know how long it usually takes to get a project approved on curseforge? :)
00:58.02Ackisnjal: approved
00:58.23njalAckis: you're affiliated with curseforge? :)
00:59.10AckisI'm one of the moderators, so I guess that's a yes
00:59.35dodgagief beta key! :p
00:59.36Neo|OtherAckis:  so it was a drycoded approval?
00:59.48NivFreakhaha
01:00.16Ackislol
01:00.16dodgawhat does luac -p say?
01:00.18PolarinaNeo|Other: lol
01:00.19NivFreakhow often are curse and wowi submitting for beta keys?
01:00.24Neo|Otherand with that insightful comment I am heading out for the weekend
01:00.32Neo|Otherwowi seems to be every monday
01:00.44NivFreakturn around time is how long?
01:01.01Neo|Otherwould say that varies
01:01.08NivFreak1-7 days?
01:01.31Neo|Otherfirst round =>over 2 weeks, 1nd round => 1 week (since they occured at the same time). not sure about the rest
01:06.30KriLL3why don't they stop sending out beta keys? their beta servers aren't increasing in number of capacity... and I doubt players stop playing the beta at the same rate as they send out invites
01:06.32PolarinaNeo|Other: I was with ticket number 712 and got in Thursday (last Thursday).
01:06.54KriLL3it feels like blizz are trying to pack 10 crates worth of sardines into one tin
01:07.33PolarinaKriLL3: They want to combine all servers into one like they do in EVE Online.
01:07.42AckisI've been smashing my head against a wall for an hour because I used ipairs instead of pairs :(
01:07.48KriLL3I doubt that's possible with wow's infrastructure
01:08.06dodgaipairs? that some new apple thingie? :>
01:08.15KriLL3in EVE each solar system is it's own server(s) aka each solar system is it's own instance
01:08.20Polarinadodga: It's a Lua function.
01:08.26dodgaI know :P
01:08.34dodgaNo wait
01:08.37Ackislua> print("foo" and false or "wheee" and true)
01:08.38lua_botAckis: true
01:08.39dodgaYou're messing with me right?
01:08.42KriLL3wow's zones has too much interaction and players to make each an instance, and having a loading screen between each would suck
01:08.43Polarinadodga: I get the joke.
01:08.49dodga:\
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01:09.01Polarinadodga: iPod, iTunes, iPairs?
01:09.22dodgaDon't get it :o
01:09.45PolarinaKriLL3: Uh? Because two solar systems can't collide..., yet.
01:10.18PolarinaKriLL3: It's like telling the difference between Tanaris and Hillsbrad Foothills.
01:10.27KriLL3Polarina: in eve each star/solar system is on it's own server(s) this it's it's own instance
01:10.39KriLL3in wow the continents are on different server(s)
01:10.42PolarinaKriLL3: They have only one server.
01:10.57KriLL3Polarina: no they have an epic fuckton
01:11.04KriLL3they're all in the same cluster though
01:11.16PolarinaKriLL3: Same thing..
01:12.39KriLL3Polarina: well you couldn't do the same in wow, would require each zone to have an instance portal thingy between it and the next zone and a load time as your char moved server
01:12.49KriLL3the same way continents do
01:13.02PolarinaKriLL3: There's no loading time between solar systems in EVE.
01:13.07KriLL3there is
01:13.14PolarinaKriLL3: O'rly?
01:13.16KriLL3it's short though
01:13.21KriLL3it's hidden in the ship appearing
01:13.32KriLL3during that time it loads the area
01:13.37PolarinaKriLL3: It's called multi-tasking.
01:13.46Ackismulti-tasks your face
01:13.51KriLL3well you don't have control while it loads
01:14.03PolarinaKriLL3: It takes time to travel.
01:14.19KriLL3do you have a point?
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01:14.26PolarinaKriLL3: No.
01:14.30KriLL3kk
01:14.37PolarinaKriLL3: Of course not, why should I?
01:15.11Kemayockknight: You pinged me?
01:15.13KriLL3NEDM!
01:15.43PolarinaAnd by the way, each time I see a document that doesn't state if a time is measured in seconds or minutes or whatsoever (e.g. Ace docs), I will take it as a lightyear.
01:15.56KriLL3:D
01:16.10KriLL3well XX:XX is usually mm:ss
01:16.13PolarinaAnd then come here crying; "IT WON'T WORK"
01:16.35KriLL3Polarina: light year isn't a measure of time btw
01:16.45PolarinaKriLL3: Oh, damn!
01:16.46dodgaheh, I so close to making an addon that uses lightyears
01:16.53PolarinaKriLL3: My fault.
01:16.56dodgajust so Polarina goes "wtf why does it work!?"
01:17.07dodgaand then comes here "IT WORKS"
01:17.13Polarinadodga: :)
01:17.16KriLL3Polarina: N.E.D.M!
01:17.30dodgaReverse psychology - amidoinitrite?!
01:17.40PolarinaKriLL3: Never End Dis Madness?
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01:17.50KriLL3no no no
01:17.55KriLL3not even doom music
01:18.23PolarinaKriLL3: You mean "A dump"?
01:18.34KriLL3chapstick helps
01:19.43KriLL3Polarina: you're not familiar with YTMND it seems
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01:20.33PolarinaKriLL3: I am.
01:20.45KriLL3how could you miss NEDM?
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01:20.54KriLL3http://wiki.ytmnd.com/NEDM
01:20.59KriLL3it's like the most common fad on there
01:21.00dodgauh ytmnd
01:21.34CIA-4703ackis * r80824 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLFrame.lua ARLText.lua AckisRecipeList.lua):
01:21.34CIA-47AckisRecipeList:
01:21.34CIA-47- Fixed some issues with the text dump... works kind of now (no scroll bar :P)
01:21.34CIA-47- Optimized some scan code
01:21.35PolarinaKriLL3: Well, I was going to link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YTMND
01:21.48PolarinaAckis: You forgot to mention it's dry-coded.
01:21.57dodgamaybe it isn't?
01:22.06dodgaah, who am I kidding. it sure is.
01:23.22KriLL3Polarina: NEDM was started buy some retard on a forum posting pics of a burning cat, NEDM usually consists of a cat in the arms of a firefighter, or cat faces being put on characters in movies killing humans, usually in a burning fashion
01:23.49AckisPolarina: It isn't
01:23.49KriLL3like on the pilot of the walking in star wars that shot down an a-wing etc
01:23.58PolarinaKriLL3: The Swarms are Back.
01:24.06PolarinaAckis: DAMN YOU!
01:24.24PolarinaAckis: :)
01:24.32Ackis:P
01:24.48CIA-4703shefki * r80825 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Fix the QuestsLog toggle to work in WotLK beta.
01:25.21KriLL3Polarina: http://lolpilotse.ytmnd.com/
01:25.45PolarinaKriLL3: "Click here to download plugin."
01:25.58PolarinaKriLL3: Nice site. :P
01:26.02KriLL3errm, it needs no plugin that I know
01:26.06KriLL3java perhaps
01:26.09KriLL3try it in IE
01:26.24PolarinaKriLL3: wine ie6.exe  ?
01:26.35KriLL3?
01:26.44KriLL3I meant ie7/ietab
01:26.56PolarinaKriLL3: wine ie7.exe ?
01:27.05KriLL3I dunno what wine is
01:27.15PolarinaKriLL3: http://www.winehq.org/
01:27.34KriLL3you're on linux?
01:27.43PolarinaKriLL3: GNU/Linux. :)
01:27.48KriLL3doesn't FF on linux support javascript?
01:28.02PolarinaKriLL3: Java ~= Javascript
01:28.30PolarinaKrill3: And it says I need Flash.
01:28.42KriLL3odd, the content I get isn't flash
01:28.42PolarinaKriLL3: But there's none for 64-bit versions.
01:28.53KriLL3I'm on Vista x64
01:28.54PolarinaShockwave Flash.
01:29.08PolarinaKriLL3: None for GNU/Linux 64-bit.
01:30.56KriLL3http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXHaRu9gqcQ&feature=related 2:59, you can watch youtube right?
01:31.21PolarinaKriLL3: Flash == No.
01:31.46KriLL3you can't use a ton of sites sans java :( much suck
01:31.49KriLL3*flash
01:31.51KriLL3...
01:32.21PolarinaKriLL3: No, they suck! As do 90% of all sites on the internet that can't follow standards!
01:32.32KriLL3flash is a standard
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01:32.46PolarinaW3C standards...
01:32.57KriLL3flash doesn't break any W3C standards
01:33.19PolarinaKriLL3: But the sites do.
01:33.33KriLL3I personally don't like using flash since it's cumbersome and doesn't work on portable devices etc, but it doesn't go against W3C
01:33.48KriLL3Polarina: not necessarily
01:33.59PolarinaKriLL3: I said 90%, not 100%.
01:35.12Funkeh`I don't know many portable devices that don't support flash and java
01:35.13KriLL3well 99% of all sites that doesn't validate properly is mixing xhtml and html, forgets to close something, doesn't have the correct doctype etc, most of which browsers can ignore
01:35.41KriLL3Funkeh`: flash support is actually really rare in portable device's browsers
01:35.49PolarinaKriLL3: The browser doesn't ignore, it GUESSES!!!
01:36.08KriLL3many cellphones can run flash movies though, but it can't provide input for interactive stuff
01:36.08Funkeh`What makes you think that
01:36.12KriLL3Polarina: yeah
01:36.23PolarinaKriLL3: That's my point.
01:36.28Funkeh`Every portable device I've used that connects to the internet supports flash
01:36.37KriLL3Funkeh`: years of experience using tons of cellphones from various manufacturers?
01:36.50KriLL3I think you're talking laptops
01:37.05Funkeh`No, I'm not.
01:37.12Funkeh`My phone supports it just fine
01:37.21PolarinaKriLL3: Flash + Portable Devices = USB Memory Stick.
01:37.47KriLL3Funkeh`: which phone?
01:38.02Funkeh`A motorola
01:38.03NivFreakFunkeh`: sans iphone, haha
01:38.27PolarinaKriLL3: Which phone? - "Skype"
01:38.28KriLL3Funkeh`: what OS and browser does it use?
01:38.45Funkeh`opera, can't remember the os
01:39.35NivFreakPolarina: you can get flash working on 64bit
01:39.49PolarinaNivFreak: Using 32-bit binaries?
01:39.56NivFreakyes, with 64bit firefox
01:40.03PolarinaNivFreak: No thanks.
01:40.09KriLL3I got opera on my nokia, it can't do flash
01:40.11NivFreakuh... huh?
01:40.24PolarinaNivFreak: CBB.
01:40.45Polarinas/BB/BD/
01:41.10NivFreakyou lost me
01:41.36Polarinamourns upon the death of NivFreak.
01:42.13NivFreakanyway, you can use nspluginwrapper to get flash :P
01:42.22PolarinaWTC.
01:42.25NivFreakamongst other things
01:42.29KriLL3NivFreak: ?
01:42.48NivFreakin general, I've found that 64bit browers still suck pretty hard on linux
01:42.53NivFreakthanks to the vendors
01:43.01PolarinaNivFreak: Firefox 2 works fine here.
01:43.09NivFreakPolarina: but not your plugins ;P
01:43.15NivFreakflash, java, etc
01:43.22PolarinaNivFreak: I haven't even made an attempt.
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01:49.09KriLL3NivFreak: heard of swfobject.js ?
01:52.44StanzillaShefki: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14780.0
01:53.37Funkeh`anyone using fx 3.1
01:54.52NivFreakKriLL3: nope
01:55.54PProvost|awaySo which is the preferred naming convention for LDB plugins? Looks like we have Broker_XXX and StatBlock_XXX going these days. And preference?
01:56.08PProvost|aways/And/Any/
01:56.14Funkeh`no
01:56.26Funkeh`there isn't a naming policy
01:56.39KriLL3really neat way of implementing flash without breaking W3C standards and using long blocks of object/embed code
02:00.06njalwhats LDB?
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02:00.59KriLL3an acronym
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02:02.06njalfor
02:02.12KriLL3http://www.acronymfinder.com/LDB.html
02:02.17KriLL3pick one
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02:04.53njali pick Leverandørdatabank
02:05.37njalI assume we're really talking about LibDataBroker after googling a bit
02:05.39Funkeh`~ldb
02:05.40purli heard ldb is a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master
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02:11.36ant1pathytesticles.  that is all
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02:15.23ant1pathytest?
02:15.41ulicfail!
02:15.48ant1pathysweet
02:15.55ant1pathyhow do i finish up with nickserv?
02:15.58ant1pathyjust wait for the email?
02:16.17ulicbeen a while since I signed up, don't remember.
02:16.43ant1pathyk k i'll make a thread if i have issues later
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02:17.50ant1pathyanyone good with pitbull?
02:18.00KriLL3ckknight ?
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02:18.12ant1pathythat's available ;D
02:18.40thulhttp://fc08.deviantart.com/fs32/i/2008/235/1/0/Anja_Ivanova_III_by_cainadamsson.jpg <- portrait of the day
02:18.55KriLL3I know how to configure it to some degree, what's your question?
02:19.15KriLL3thul: bah tilt shift lens
02:19.16ant1pathytrying to turn off timers on certain auras (target, focus)
02:19.22ant1pathybut not all of them
02:19.31KriLL3ant1pathy: gl
02:20.02ant1pathyi would experiment with oUF, but i'm not familiar with the coding and would need some time to play with it
02:20.30KriLL3personally I use SBF
02:20.31ant1pathyi use omniCC, and i like the BIG NUMBERS
02:20.44thulKriLL3: not really:) quite far from it actually :-P
02:20.51ant1pathyi use Buffalo for my buffs, but like the debuffs being RIGHT THERE on top of my health bar
02:20.52KriLL3thul: ?
02:21.20ant1pathyand of course target and focus debuffs need to be close by
02:21.23thulKriLL3: just a very fast lens. f/1.2
02:21.38njaldoes the packager on curseforge run automatically, or do someone have to approve every "build" it does? seems to me its taking random time/random commits and packages them :P
02:21.39KriLL3kk
02:21.48KriLL3looks a whole lot like a tilt shift though
02:21.56thulKriLL3: my new toy, 58mm 1.2
02:22.24KriLL3is there a way to make the curse client actually update anything?
02:23.14ulicnjal: I think any commit to trunk gets build if you have alphas on, anything to branches is a beta build, and anything to tags is a release build, and they should get built pretty straight away, at least last I messed with it.
02:23.41KriLL3it takes an age to load/scan then it makes random addon folders read only, asks which fanpack most of my addons are from and then finally crashes just as it's about to update something
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02:24.23KriLL3I can't really see why ace wants to move from WAU to curse, though I guess it's cheaper to use an app that doesn't actually download anything...
02:24.38njalulic: seems to be waiting a few minutes (might be some externals taking some time for their servers, but it works quickly for me here).
02:24.44ulicKriLL3: is that the beta or the live one?
02:24.45Arrowmasterbecause otherwise wowace would shutdown?
02:24.51KriLL3beta
02:24.52Arrowmasterseems like a good reason to me
02:24.54njalmy only "real" gripe with it atm is that it creates a changelog automatically, which I dont lke :P
02:24.57njallike*
02:25.16KriLL3Arrowmaster: I'll have to manually download the files when WAU is shut down it seems :/
02:25.38Arrowmasternjal: you can always disable the packager and do it manually and upload your own zips
02:26.01njalespecially since my usual git-magicky-rewrite-the-history voodoo doesn't trick it -- hehe :)
02:26.07KriLL3the curse client just wastes time, spits out random error messages about not being able to create files and then crashes
02:26.27Arrowmasterif it cant create files then something seems very wrong
02:27.14njalKriLL3: at least you're not using a mac, so you get the _ability_ to use the curse client
02:27.48njalI so hope they wont stall for long after the shutdown of wau-clients and release a curse client for mac quickly :)
02:28.55KriLL3"can't create file 'D:/Users/<my user>/AppData/Local/Temp/PitBull/BaFader/BarFader.lua' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified)"
02:28.59KriLL3OK Details
02:29.09thul2
02:29.45KriLL3CurseClient.exe has stopped working A problem caused the probram to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available.
02:29.48ant1pathyk, just turned them all off and made omnicc apply to all sizez
02:30.01KriLL3thul: the error message is white since it crashed :>
02:30.14ant1pathynot exactly what i wanted, but it works i guess
02:31.47KriLL3might it be the ™ in my username?...
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02:32.42KriLL3no it can't be, doesn't work on my other user that doesn't have anything like that
02:32.56KriLL3I'm guessing it's not tested on Vista64
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02:58.44TinyboomKriLL3: Curseclient 2.0 Beta works fine on Vista64:) At least for me...
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03:01.11KriLL3I think I'm running an earlier version, does 2.0 ask you which fanpack all your addons are from after scanning your addons folder for half an hour?
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03:02.03KriLL3I get the same error with 2.0
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03:03.35KriLL3"Directory 'D:/Users/<my user>/AppData/Local/Temp/PitBull/PitBull/Layouts/' (error 3: the system cannot find the path specified)"
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03:08.19KriLL3"Processing new addons (this may take several minutes)" the bar doesn't move...
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03:08.44KriLL3WAU doesn't need to do that...
03:09.54KriLL3I really hope the curse client is usable before WAU is killed off :(
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03:20.45Mytosok this is probably my most off the wall question yet
03:21.00Mytosis there a way to log into the wow chat system like you could with everquest and everquest 2
03:21.07KriLL3no
03:21.13MytosFAIL
03:21.17Ellipsisonly way to use wow chat is to use wow :P
03:21.45Mytosok, whos with me on starting a petition to get the functionality implemented
03:21.55Xinhuandon't bother
03:22.01KriLL3well perhaps you'd be able to stip almost all parts from the client but the chat but I bet you'd get banned for not having a standard client
03:22.17Xinhuanit will not be implemented
03:22.25Mytosim pretty sure that wowchat isnt much different than irc is, i just wanna be able to login with mirc like i could in everquest
03:22.35Mytosi dont see why it wont
03:22.42Xinhuanbecause it will allow botters easier to bot, and worse, allow gold selling spammers another method to spam
03:22.56KriLL3get a bot that sits in all channels and got a log addon, make it sync it logs to a website or something...
03:23.59Ellipsissome (gasp) private servers have functionality like that
03:24.16Ellipsisit's not that it's impossible, it's that it's not in blizzard's best interests
03:24.20Xinhuanit just won't be allowed, it facilitates wow-to-nonwow communications
03:24.36Xinhuanand makes botting that much easier
03:24.54KriLL3Ellipsis: does the logs get printed, then moved by a robot from the printer to an OCR machine? the output of which is inputted in morse code?
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03:25.21EllipsisKriLL3: no, the server code sends chat messages to an IRC server
03:25.36KriLL3couldn't you make a script that does that with chat logs?
03:26.07Xinhuanthe fact is, you could make an ingame addon that outputs chat, which gets sent to irc, which gets parsed by a program which bots the game
03:26.14KriLL3there are addons that logs the chat
03:26.22Xinhuanyes but they are not real time
03:28.01Xinhuanspecifically, wow.exe doesn't write the chatlogs to files in real time, it flushes its cache every now and then
03:28.16Xinhuanor when you log out
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03:28.28KriLL3what's the duration? a couple of mins?
03:28.39Xinhuancan be up to 30 min
03:28.44Xinhuanif there's very little chat going on
03:29.10KriLL3Xinhuan: a large number of bots that login/logout repeatedly? :>
03:29.19Mytosi dont want any functionality other than chatting, and it wont effect gold selling any more than gold sellers spam now
03:29.26Xinhuanit still wouldn't be real time
03:29.30KriLL3no
03:29.31XuerianMytos: Old suggestion is old, it isn't happening
03:29.44Xinhuanif its delayed by anything more than 1 or 2 seconds it isn't real time anymore
03:29.44Mytosthose accounts can still be reported and banned even if theyre only using a chat system
03:35.02Mytosi love how you guys all dash my hopes on the rocks and then go silent :(
03:35.35KriLL3yay curseclient just gave me a "Microsoft Visual C++ Debug Library" popup...
03:36.12KriLL3Expression: _BLOCK_TYPE_IS_VALID(pHead->nBlockUse) <about> <retry> <ignore>
03:36.24XuerianKriLL3: I think there's a better channel for curse issues, I'm sure someone here can correct me
03:37.02KriLL3like?
03:37.06XuerianMytos: Sorry, but it's just not going to happen. There's nothing else to say. Blizz has flatly said no from day one. No changes to that stance, at all. No hints otherwise, every time it comes up. If you want to chat in game, use xfire or the like, is the answer
03:37.22XuerianKriLL3: I said "I think", for a reason. I don't actually remember at the moment.
03:37.28KriLL3kk
03:37.46Xuerian#curseforge maybe
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03:48.26KriLL3ohnoes
03:49.52Mytosthat on beta or on live?
03:51.54njalwith AceConfig3, is it possible to get a group of stuff to be shown as expanded pr. default?
03:52.05njals/pr./by/g
03:52.32Xinhuannot by any easy means
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03:53.01Xinhuanneed some cryptic internal stuff to set some internal tables
03:53.14Xinhuanwhich remembers if its expanded or not
03:53.39njaldamn :( getting tired of pressing the little "+"-button every time I reload the ui
03:55.43ZyndromeMytos : live , pic from my silly GM
03:57.41Mytosyour gm is a GM ?
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03:59.20Primerhopes the bios updates fixes the random "data read" errors
03:59.34PrimerHaving to completely re-install WotLK
04:00.03PrimerJust pulled down 1.15G patch
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04:01.02JerleMinaraany way to /cast a mount now in a macro?
04:01.16PrimerFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKkk
04:01.27PrimerIt did it again
04:02.15EllipsisJerleMinara: yeah, the name in the mounts tab
04:02.23Ellipsisyou can shift-click it into the macro
04:02.52KriLL3it's basically just the name of the mount
04:03.02KriLL3reins of the <name> -> <name>
04:03.15KriLL3"Black War Tiger" is an example  
04:03.31Ellipsisthat's not entirely accurate
04:03.43Ellipsise.g. Summon Dreadsteed -> Summon Dreadsteed ;)
04:03.46PrimerPerhaps he means in the beta?
04:04.08Ellipsiser...we're all talking about the beta
04:04.12Ellipsiswhat are you talking about? o.O
04:04.24PrimerIsn't it a complicated script now?
04:04.29Ellipsis...no?
04:04.30PrimerI recall running into this
04:04.58Ellipsisyou can use /cast and shift-click the mount name from your mounts tab and it works just fine
04:05.00Primer/run local t = "MOUNT"; if SecureCmdOptionParse("[outdoors,flyable,nomounted]") then CallCompanion(t, 3) else if SecureCmdOptionParse("[outdoors,nomounted]") then CallCompanion(t, 1) end; end
04:05.07Primeris what I ended up doing
04:05.25EllipsisPrimer: that's for a random mount, the only reason it's so complicated is differentiating between flyable and non-flyable
04:05.29PrimerHe did say "macro"
04:05.33Primererrrrrr
04:05.33Ellipsisif you know what mount you want, you don't need that mess
04:06.04PrimerAre you contending that a macro that works in WoW for mounting works in beta? Because that's just not true
04:06.11Ellipsisfor example my mount macro is something akin to /cast [mod,noflyable] Summon Dreadsteed; Violet Netherdrake
04:06.17Ellipsisno, it's not
04:06.21Primeryeah, in WOW
04:06.25KriLL3Ellipsis: that's a summoned class pets, they never were items, correct?
04:06.28PrimerBut in LK, that doesn't work
04:06.34EllipsisKriLL3: the dreadsteed? yeah
04:06.37EllipsisPrimer: it DOES
04:06.38Ellipsistry it.
04:06.43PrimerI DID!!!!
04:06.56KriLL3<PROTECTED>
04:06.56Ellipsisyour silly macro is only complicated because you're randomzing your mount
04:07.02PrimerFirst thing I did when I got beta was to copy my macros-cache.txt over
04:07.09EllipsisPrimer: your old macros won't work
04:07.10PrimerI'm _not_ randomizing it
04:07.11Ellipsisare you listening at all?
04:07.15PrimerSigh...
04:07.18Primerthat's what I just said
04:07.19Ellipsisyou have to change the cast NAME
04:07.22Ellipsisbut that's all.
04:07.32Ellipsisyou can still use a simple /cast line
04:07.34PrimerIf I could get the fucking game running I'd try it
04:07.37Ellipsisthere is no reason at all to involve lua
04:07.39KriLL3Primer: that macro is fubar
04:08.52PrimerIt's what I obtained from the forums, after several other people reported they were unable to use their old mount macros
04:09.12Ellipsisthen people are dumb
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04:09.50KriLL3<PROTECTED>
04:09.52KriLL3mine
04:09.55PrimerI hate windows
04:09.58PrimerJust hate it
04:10.05KriLL3except I removed the swift flight part until I'm 77
04:10.12KriLL3why?
04:10.31KriLL3also the noflyable part from the mount
04:10.57KriLL3<PROTECTED>
04:11.00KriLL3what I use in the LK beta
04:11.24PrimerSo I'm using rsync to copy my WotLK directory from my windows laptop to my windows desktop...
04:11.27KriLL3it doesn't use travelform if I'm moving out of combat though, that's the only feature I miss from my TBC version
04:11.36Primerbecause "map network drive" just doesn't work
04:11.51KriLL3Primer: tried rightclick -> share?
04:12.02PrimerDoesn't work
04:12.12KriLL3your network setup is broken I guess
04:12.15PrimerIt's not
04:12.29KriLL3there is no way for a macro to differentiate between you moving and not, correct?
04:12.37PrimerI just don't want to deal with windows idiosyncrasies
04:12.42KriLL3Primer: I can share stuff over my network np, all windows machines
04:12.58PrimerOne is XP home, the other Vista
04:13.03Primerrsync is working just fine
04:13.14EllipsisPrimer: I just tested /cast Violet Netherwing Drake
04:13.19Ellipsisit worked.
04:13.27KriLL3I got xp32 vista32 vista64 machines, all sharing the same network
04:13.41KriLL3Ellipsis: why wouldn't it?
04:13.47EllipsisPrimer swears it doesn't
04:13.51Primersigh...
04:14.01Primerall I know is, my old macro didn't work
04:14.03Ellipsishe just fails at realizing that the name of the ITEM to summon the mount is different from the name of the MOUNT
04:14.13Ellipsiswhich is the ONLY change that has to be made to pre-wrath macros
04:14.25Primer/use [flyable,nomounted] Reins of the Violet Netherwing Drake; [noflyable,nomounted] Summon Dreadsteed
04:14.29PrimerThe old one
04:14.37EllipsisPrimer: remove "Reins of the"
04:14.51Ellipsisthat's all that's needed
04:14.54KriLL3and you can't use flying mounts prior to 77 in northrend
04:14.58Primerand people HERE said CallCompanion was the solution
04:15.00KriLL3and it's flyable
04:15.05EllipsisPrimer: well then they were dumb
04:15.06KriLL3Primer: they're fools
04:15.11PrimerWTF can I say
04:15.18KriLL3Primer: that macro is pointless in northrend prior to 77
04:15.19PrimerI asked for help, got it, and what I got worked
04:15.28Primerbottom line
04:15.29Ellipsisit's ridiculously overcomplicated
04:15.32PrimerNow I know better
04:15.33KriLL3just put your dreadsteed on your bar
04:15.48Primerand I thank you for enlightening me :)
04:15.52PrimerBar?
04:15.55PrimerI don't use "bars"
04:15.59KriLL3...
04:16.04KriLL3then keybind it
04:16.15PrimerUhh, I have a macro
04:16.20KriLL3why?
04:16.23Primerthat casts the correct mount for the correct zone
04:16.23Ellipsisthe macro won't work in northrend
04:16.30KriLL3Primer: it doesn't work in northrend
04:16.37PrimerIt mounts my dreadsteed just fine
04:16.39Ellipsisbecause flyable returns true in northrend even if you don't have the cold weather flying skill
04:16.45KriLL3northrend is flyable, but you can't fly prior to 77
04:17.09KriLL3the noflyable portion of your mount will make it do nothing in northrend
04:17.20KriLL3or rather it will try to fly and fail
04:17.28Primernot true
04:17.31Ellipsis...
04:17.31KriLL3...
04:17.35Ackisping Xinhuan
04:17.38KriLL3facepalm
04:17.39Primerwith the /run one...
04:17.41Ellipsisfine, I'll test that too.
04:17.45PrimerI'm telling you
04:17.52Primerthe one that goes /run bla bla bla works
04:17.53Ellipsis"You can't use that here."
04:17.53Xinhuanhi
04:18.00KriLL3I know it's true, I fiddled with my very own macro
04:18.14Primer/run local t = "MOUNT"; if SecureCmdOptionParse("[outdoors,flyable,nomounted]") then CallCompanion(t, 3) else if SecureCmdOptionParse("[outdoors,nomounted]") then CallCompanion(t, 1) end; end
04:18.19KriLL3northrend = flyable thus [noflyable] = false
04:18.26AckisXinhuan: how do you get around the fire shield annoying you in AV for pickpocketing?
04:18.28PrimerI don't know what to tell you
04:18.39Xinhuani don't. i'm alliance so i go to the north cave
04:18.40Primerthat one mounts my dreadsteed in northrend
04:18.41EllipsisPrimer: you're remembering wrong.
04:18.43Xinhuanwhich doesn't have that debuff
04:18.44Ackisahh ok
04:18.47Xinhuanno firesheilds there
04:18.48Ackislucky bugger
04:19.06Xinhuanthat or do ubrs
04:19.08Xinhuanor lbrs
04:19.09KriLL3Primer: might as well just have your dreadsteed on a bar/keybind, would achieve the same thing
04:19.15PrimerEllipsis: then it's just dumb luck...because it works
04:19.20Ellipsisno it doesn't
04:19.25EllipsisI just tested it
04:19.33Ellipsisusing the violet netherwing drake and summon dreadsteed spells
04:19.40Ellipsisit tries to summon the drake and fails
04:19.45Ellipsis[9:17:10 pm] <Ellipsis> "You can't use that here."
04:19.53KriLL3<PROTECTED>
04:19.57KriLL3"you cna't use that here"
04:20.23KriLL3remove the flying part, I get travelform since the mount is only used in non flying
04:20.32KriLL3remove the non flying part from the mount and it works
04:20.45KriLL3<PROTECTED>
04:21.08PrimerI wish windows would report what's wrong
04:21.14Primerevent log has NOTHING
04:21.29KriLL3PEBKAC
04:21.29PrimerI bet if I booted Linux, there'd be things logged
04:21.35Primerplease
04:22.10KriLL3Primer: you're testing your macro in outland? that'd explain why it works
04:22.19KriLL3it wouldn't in northrend though
04:22.34PrimerIf I could get the damn game to run on this box, I'd find out
04:22.49KriLL3I don't see the point of having a macro prior to 77 in northrend if you only use flyingmount or normalmount
04:22.59KriLL3since there isn't anything to choose from
04:23.10PrimerYou presume I'll only be there?
04:23.14EllipsisI directly bound to my riding mount for beta -.- not like I'll be in outland much
04:23.18KriLL3where else would you be?
04:23.28PrimerMajor cities...
04:23.28KriLL3<PROTECTED>
04:23.30KriLL3mine
04:23.31Ellipsisonly reason to leave northrend is to train...and there are no trainers in outland
04:23.36KriLL3Primer: where you can't fly
04:23.45PrimerMan, you guys are tought
04:23.47Primertough
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04:24.03KriLL3we're harsh against stubborn ppl =P
04:24.12Ellipsiswe're only tough when we're right ;)
04:24.21KriLL3the only town you can fly in prior to 77 is shattrath, and there isn't much point going there imo
04:24.34PrimerHeh, my hearth is there
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04:24.42PrimerNorthrend, hearth, SW
04:24.54Ellipsispersonally I'm setting my hearth to stormwind
04:24.55Primerwhile in Shat, I want to _fly_ to the portals...
04:24.58PrimerREASON ENOUGH?!
04:25.00KriLL3hearth to dalaran
04:25.21EllipsisPrimer: why waste time loading shatt just to portal out of it? :P
04:25.28KriLL3there is an in a couple of meters from the portals there
04:25.37Ellipsisthere's *no* reason to be in shatt
04:25.37KriLL3*inn
04:25.40PrimerAre there portals in Dalaran to SW and IF?
04:25.52KriLL3Dalaran replaces shatt more or less
04:25.54KriLL3yes
04:25.58Zyndromeheh
04:26.02PrimerI confess, I haven't played the beta much
04:26.13Ackisyou know I haven't looked... is there a portal from dalaran to sunwell?
04:26.14KriLL3SW IF Darn Exodar Shattrath
04:26.15Zyndrometrying Frost on my DK ... pew pew 6k frost strikes ..
04:26.55KriLL3Primer: http://images.wikia.com/wowwiki/images/5/52/Dalaran_beta_map.jpg
04:27.08KriLL3see the inn right next to the horde and alliance clusters of portals?
04:28.05KriLL3Ackis: no, but you can go from dalaran to shatt to sunwell
04:29.08KriLL3but who cares about sunwell post LK release?
04:29.51KriLL3Ellipsis: imo it would be nice if Northrend was "noflyable" until you did that cold weather quest
04:32.41KriLL3wouldn't break everyone's macro
04:35.01KriLL3btw did the latest patch make it impossible to get portaled/summoned to Dalaran prior to being level 74?
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04:39.15PrimerHrmm, my laptop is only operating at 100mbps...
04:39.22PrimerGuess it's plugged into the wrong switch
04:39.23Primerbah
04:39.34PrimerThe world is conspiring against me today
04:39.42NeoTronbeta->fail()
04:39.57PrimerCan we all agree to call it "The Alpha"?
04:39.58NeoTronpatch seems to have made it impossible to log in and stay on
04:40.33KriLL3NeoTron: I haven't seen an NPCs yet post patch :)
04:40.46KriLL3I think it's a feature
04:42.06KriLL3blue screen of death claims ‘nuther victm.
04:42.20NeoTronI know it's beta and all but you'd figure they do some testing before a friday afternoon patch :P
04:42.35KriLL3yeah, they did after pushing it
04:43.00KriLL3we're the Q&A team, free labor ftw
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04:43.55Zhinjioevenin'
04:44.04Ellipsishugs Zhinjio
04:44.10Zhinjiohugs Ellipsis
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04:46.19synteurquick question - i read there was a wrath beta version of bartender4 out, where can i find that? (also, is there a section for wrath beta :P?)
04:46.48KriLL3is the US beta server also a total pile of fail atm or is it coldarra's fault?
04:47.49KriLL3http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Bartender4/WotlK/
04:47.59NeoTronwell I can't even respec before I'm kicked off
04:48.04KriLL3http://www.wowwiki.com/Wotlk_Addon_Status will perhaps help
04:48.10NeoTronand this is US/PvE (Northrend)
04:48.17synteurty!
04:48.24NeoTronso much for testing frost
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05:05.17synteurthere an easy way to get all the contents of that svn dir without having tortoise installed etc?
05:06.12Xinhuaneasy way? no
05:06.36Xinhuanthe easiest without a svn client installed would be to download each file individually
05:07.39synteuryeah that's what i've been doing. not too bad, meh lol
05:08.35ulicjust install tortise
05:24.36Xinhuanhmm i just won might of the scourge
05:24.51Xinhuanif i keep it into wotlk and lvl 60 naxx isn't available anymore, would it be worth more gold?
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05:25.56synteurwow, i just ran a naxx on live
05:25.57synteurand that dropped
05:26.01synteurway to ninjasell my junk
05:26.32synteurbut that's a good question tbh
05:26.40synteuri was offered 2k for it actually, lols
05:26.46Xinhuani am offered 5k
05:26.50synteurnot bad, rofl
05:26.57Xinhuanbut i already have 110k
05:27.19Xinhuanwas hoping someone would offer me say... a dragon kite, or a tyrael pet or something more unique ;p
05:30.58synteurso what was the basis of the naxx run you did? just for fun?
05:31.10synteuror are there other people out there like me running every week to finish a staff before its gone :O
05:36.34PProvost|awayDoes anyone know what property I set in my oUF layout to hide party in raid?
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05:37.08XuerianSetAttribute("showRaid", false)
05:37.27Xuerian(party:SetAtt...)
05:39.30synteuroh, so any idea what's up with button paging on wrath beta?
05:39.37synteurlike, moreso than the fact that its... broken
05:45.27ZhinjioOk, back off to the hospital I go.
05:45.29Zhinjioidles.
05:45.50Xueriansynteur: Probably the fact that the new secure frames system was introduced today
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05:47.20PProvost|awayXuerian: So now the party frames for all groups but mine are hidden, but my party is still showing. Suggetions?
05:48.07XuerianPProvost|away: Nuh? pastey the part where you spawn the frames
05:48.41PProvost|awayWill when I can... in a raid. LOL
05:54.04AckisXinhuan: you don't have a tyrael? =/
05:54.20Xinhuannope
05:54.29Ackisyou entered the competitions for one?
05:54.34Xinhuanya
05:54.38Ackisk gl to you
05:54.42Ackisit's such a cool pet
05:54.43Xinhuanbut i suspect they cheated
05:54.48Xinhuan3 min to win
05:54.59Ackismaybe better than the murloc pet
05:55.04Xinhuan5 min and the contest was over
06:01.14PProvost|awayXuerian: http://pastey.net/94500
06:02.14XuerianSo what, your raidgroup doesn't show when you do that?
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06:05.02PProvost|awayRaid frames show, and my party frames show. I only want the raid frames.
06:06.20XuerianPProvost|away:  blerk, use this hunk of code at the bottom then. oUF_Lyn/p3lim use it, I believe. http://pastey.net/94501
06:07.07PProvost|awayThanks. I actually saw that in Lyn and forgot about it. Thanks
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06:20.19PProvost|awayLike a charm Xuerian. Thanks again.
06:20.48XuerianPProvost|away: Ayep... One of the few parts I haven't re-written from Lyn's.
06:26.58PProvost|away:)
06:31.32Ellipsisyay, my hard drive is making funny sounds \o/
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06:31.43CIA-47Parrot:
06:31.43CIA-47- Fixed zhCN/zhTW typo again.(oops...)
06:38.47PProvost|awayXuerian: I thought I found an oUF API page somewhere, but not I can't find it anywhere. You know what I'm talking about?
06:39.41XuerianPProvost|away: No idea, I just used the lua files
06:41.23PProvost|away:)
06:42.22AntiarcSo I just had a fun addon idea
06:43.02AntiarcRecord names of players and NPCs, with the last location seen at
06:43.16AntiarcThen respond to queries, either natural language or addon, with last seen at information
06:43.23AntiarcMaybe even tomtom coords or something
06:44.04Wobininteresting
06:44.14AntiarcExtremely useful for beta
06:44.17Wobinwhat would you call it?
06:44.20Antiarc"Donde"
06:44.26AntiarcI dunno
06:44.29Wobin?
06:44.31AntiarcI just came up with it when I was making a sammich
06:44.34Antiarc(om nom nom)
06:44.38AntiarcDonde is Spanish for "where"
06:45.16Wobinhm, it'd have to record on mouseover, wouldn't it?
06:45.25Antiarcor target, but yeah
06:45.33Wobinunless you want to scan nametags
06:45.34AntiarcSo the idea is that you would triangulate a postition
06:45.39AntiarcOr give a general area
06:45.46Wobinpft
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06:45.51Wobinjust record player location at that time
06:45.53Ellipsisbut how do you know who to query?
06:45.56AntiarcRight
06:45.59Wobinthat's accurate enough
06:46.03AntiarcEllipsis: I'm thinking something like queries in general
06:46.06Antiarc"Where is Snorlaxx?"
06:46.15Wobin"Behind the couch"
06:46.42WobinYou could query people with the addon in the same zone perhaps
06:46.47Ellipsisso if I want to find someone I have to hope I'm in the right zone (for general) or someone in a city has seen them (trade) or someone in my guild...?
06:47.10AntiarcWell, even more powerfully, it would let you autoreply to queries like that
06:47.11Wobinmaybe for npcs it's zone based
06:47.16AntiarcWhich would build interest in the addon
06:47.24Wobinbut for players it could be worldwide
06:47.53Ellipsisbut my problem is, if I create a new character on a realm and want to find person X, I have no means of communicating with anyone who's likely to know where person X is
06:48.14Wobinwhy not use the addon channel?
06:48.23Ellipsisa global addon channel?
06:48.45Wobinhehe, we could go back to a custom channel =P
06:48.50Ellipsisfrowns
06:49.11WobinBut really, if you create a new character on a realm and want to find person X
06:49.15WobinWhy not send them a tell?
06:49.21Ellipsisbecause I'm a stalker
06:49.30Wobin'who <name>' works well then
06:49.33Ellipsisand stalkers don't just call up their victims and say "hey, where are you?"
06:49.59Wobinnow you're just making up issues
06:50.11Ellipsisno, not really, just looking at it from my use case
06:50.37Wobinnot a valid use case =P
06:50.43Ellipsisif I find through /who that they're in random_zone, that doesn't mean I can necessarily go to random_zone and ask in general :P
06:51.02Wobinwell, then you're stuffed, aren't you?
06:51.05Ellipsisyes
06:51.09Wobintough shit =)
06:51.21Ellipsisgoes back to her old-fashioned /tar char_name stalking
06:51.30Antiarche use case I'm thinking of is primarily for new content
06:51.43AntiarcSomething of an organic, active database
06:52.11Ellipsishow are you going to get enough people to use the addon to make that work?
06:52.13Ellipsisespecially if it responds to natural language queries so they don't even need the addon to query those who have it
06:52.37Xuerianthe only problem I can see with this is spam
06:52.59AntiarcI never said I had a plan, just an idea
06:53.06AntiarcAnd damn, my turkey sandvich was good.
06:53.09AntiarcI think I need another.
06:53.10XuerianIf more than one person in x channel "knows" and answers, user gets that many messages
06:53.20Xuerianmmm sandvich
06:53.39AntiarcI'd thought of that, but you could mitigate it by introducing a random delay
06:53.44AntiarcAnd if someone else answers, just don't answer
06:53.53Xuerianhow do you tell if someone else answers?
06:53.56Ellipsiswhat if your information is significantly newer than theirs?
06:54.07WobinI'd include a timestamp
06:54.11AntiarcWell, there could be override options, like significantly newer or way off mark
06:54.17Wobinso you get the responses, and your addon gets the most recent
06:54.18Antiarc"Joe was at 54, 23 16 minutes ago"
06:54.36AntiarcIf you have the addon it could filter responses and provide the best one
06:54.43AntiarcOr triangulate a series of responses into a better picture
06:55.13Ellipsisor graph their locations over time onto a map
06:55.13Ellipsis:d
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06:55.24AntiarcSure, that works too
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06:56.37Ellipsisso if it's not for stalking people, what *is* the intended use of this addon?
06:56.50XuerianPublic service, likely
06:56.54Antiarc^--
06:56.56Wobinstalking people in the same zone
06:57.05Ellipsisif I want to find someone, why don't I just send them a tell and ask them where they are? :P
06:57.09Wobinor npcs
06:57.14XuerianThat's our question for you, ell.
06:57.23AntiarcIt could have PVP uses, but I'm thinking about stemming the flood of questions like "Where is Quest Mob X?" when Wrath launches
06:57.24Ellipsishey I explained why *I* don't
06:57.44Ellipsistoo bad there's no mouseover for sinkholes
06:57.45Ellipsis>_>
06:57.56XuerianAntiarc: What I' do, is make a button to send the reply... like the therapis
06:58.02Xueriantherapist, even
06:58.12AntiarcThat's a great idea
06:58.20Wobineh?
06:58.29AntiarcIf you have the answer, provide a button to reply
06:58.30XuerianMakes it user-initiated, Wobin
06:58.33Wobinah
06:58.33AntiarcRather than automatically doing it
06:58.34XuerianNo "omg bot" problems
06:58.51XuerianAlso adds a layer of person-checking to make sure the answer was right
06:59.05XuerianAnd a chance for someone to wait for someone to not get a answer, or someone else to answer in a public channel
06:59.09Antiarc^--
06:59.15AntiarcGreat solution all around
06:59.21Wobinwell
06:59.26Wobinchopchop, get to it, Anti =)
06:59.35Antiarcwhat, you think I have free time? :P
06:59.40AntiarcI'm just the idea man
06:59.43WobinYou could call it WheresWaldo/Wally
06:59.46Ellipsisbut it doesn't make me waffles
06:59.50AntiarcSomeone else make it and get famous
06:59.54XuerianEll does have a vague point
06:59.55Ellipsisway to fail at waffle-making ideas, Antiarc!
06:59.59XuerianWhat does it do for the user running it
07:00.19AntiarcWell, you could provide advanced comms and triangulation
07:00.23AntiarcTie it into the quest log
07:00.47XuerianHmm, likely...
07:00.51XuerianWhispers can be addon messages?
07:00.55Antiarcyes
07:01.13AntiarcYou could also tie into the achievement system, and hack in an achievement for "100 questions answered" or something, I'm sure :P
07:01.16XuerianMake the addon send a 'you have addon too?' query with the response, if they do, send more data
07:01.20AntiarcGo go artificial carrots on a stick!
07:02.03XuerianWith something like a "Map it!" button for the reciever
07:02.40Antiarcreally, it's just a data collector like for wowhead or whatnot, except in game and more fluid
07:03.13XuerianNo reason you couldn't make the natural language thing go both ways
07:03.21Antiarcyup
07:03.25Antiarcwhere is x?
07:03.27Xuerianscan incoming messages for cords, mark them as links or pop up a map it thingy
07:03.28Antiarcx is at 12, 34
07:03.52AntiarcMost people just need general locations
07:04.07AntiarcThis would do that in game and in realtime
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07:07.31AntiarcI really like how nearly all the Wrath quests have cardinal direction pointers in them
07:07.40Antiarc"Just to the southeast", or "far north of here"
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07:15.37Wobin"There is a mailbox here"
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07:37.07Zyndromewww.shatteredminds.net/wotlk_beta/path-of-spam.jpg , so entertaining every time
07:37.09Zyndrome..
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07:42.22Wobinhm
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07:42.26Wobinthey need to change the animation of that
07:42.33Wobinso you actually see ice beneath their feet
07:42.49Wobincause if we can leave footprints in snow
07:43.00Wobinthat would be a cool effect in having frozen footprints in the water
07:43.24Wobinalthough the footprint for the cats is still bugged =P
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07:47.19CIA-4703Shamahan * r80834 10SimpleBar/Textures.lua:
07:47.19CIA-47SimpleBar:
07:47.19CIA-47-
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07:48.31Wobinck turned 21?
07:48.35WobinHe can drink now!
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07:48.37CIA-47PitBull_QuickHealth:
07:48.37CIA-47- use embeds.xml to load libraries
07:48.40Wobinfeels old
07:49.31orionshockis gathermate / routes working on beta?
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07:51.12CIA-4703nemes * r80836 10LibGUIDRegistry-0.1/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
07:51.12CIA-47LibGUIDRegistry-0.1:
07:51.12CIA-47- use embeds.xml to load libraries
07:51.13CIA-47- fix compile errors in (unused) LibGUIDRegistry-0.2.lua
08:02.57WobinNow I remember why my sleeping patterns shifted while doing serious addon coding
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08:03.08Wobinall the interesting conversations happen at 2am
08:05.45Zhinjioevenin'
08:06.17Arrowmasterwheres nemes, messing with my dead lib
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08:17.27ag`my sleeping pattern doesn't exist
08:18.00ag`uni starts in a week, so I am trying to normalize it by staying up all night
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08:18.17ag`but I've failed 1-2 times where I gave up at 10-12 AM
08:18.31ag`This time I will win though
08:18.37ag`it is 10 AM now
08:18.40ag`I know I can do it :D
08:18.55cncfanaticsg'morning all
08:19.17cncfanaticsag`: so basicly, ur gonnas tay up whole day ? :o and then get a regular sleep time ?
08:19.30ag`that's what I am trying
08:19.47ag`because my problem right now is that I am not tired at all until 7-8AM
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08:20.03ag`so if I want to sleep at a normal time I figured I needed to get myself real tired
08:20.15Zhinjiohmm, I'm getting an "ApplySystemFonts" error on CF2 I've not seen before.
08:20.25Zhinjioweird. I use this on three machines
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08:22.22cncfanaticsI never needed CF heh
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08:23.03CIA-47tekerr: 03Tekkub 07master * r76ae08f 10/ (LibStub.lua tekErr.toc): Forgot LibStub - http://is.gd/1QRk
08:23.30Zhinjiowell, I never liked the default system fonts.
08:23.37Antiarchttp://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v272/216/62/100801207/n100801207_30446621_1410.jpg
08:24.37Tobiis AcceptTrade() the same like trade button after trade already opened?
08:24.59orionshockTobi: it's protected iirc
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08:26.20CIA-47teksloot: 03Tekkub 07master * rd38e3d2 10/ teksLoot.lua : Useless line... - http://is.gd/1QRt
08:26.21CIA-47teksloot: 03Tekkub 07master * r7533e98 10/ teksLoot.lua : I'm told this fixes an OnUpdate error, but I've not been able to test it personally - http://is.gd/1QRu
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08:39.49Zhinjioevenin' kaelten
08:40.09Kaeltenheya
08:40.20KaaosaHm, I think it's time to restyle my ui
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08:45.38KaaosaIs it possible to have Grid show like, some dummy frames or do I have to be in a raid to see what it'll look like?
08:46.37NivFreakhah, freaking servers
08:46.49NivFreakKaaosa: I just queue up av
08:46.50NivFreak:)
08:47.13KaaosaHehe
08:47.28CIA-4703stalake * r80838 10Baggins_BtmScan/Baggins_BtmScan.toc: Baggins_BtmScan: Changed addon website in TOC
08:47.39dieck_is there an event fired off when using a gathering skill?
08:48.01dieck_other than the loot event? anything to see which skill was used?
08:48.14Arrowmasterspellcaststart?
08:49.35NivFreakfreaking no mans land debuff
08:52.29dieckArrowmaster: might work :)
08:53.28dieckas I just started herbalism and gathered ~100 herbs above the 75/75 limit I thought of writing a small addon producing warning when you've reached the maximum (except 375/450). or is there already something like that?
08:54.00CIA-4703stalake * r80839 10GearEvaluator/GearEvaluator.toc: GearEvaluator: Changed addon website in TOC
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08:55.12Fisker-Kaelten my friend
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09:09.11dieckhm. there is CRAFT_SHOW and TRADE_SKILL_SHOW. Which professions are crafts and which tradeskills? and how do I find out which window opened?
09:10.06KaeltenCraft is enchanting and pet training
09:10.41dieckand tradeskills are tailor, lw, smith, jc?
09:11.13dieckso, how can I see which window was opened?
09:11.13Kaeltenet al
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09:26.48dieckis there any simple way for an addon to know if it's run in TBC or WotLK?
09:29.12Adirellehello,
09:29.30Adirelledoes anyone received a "University of Melbourne Research Participation" MP from Ridonkculous ?
09:30.20Tentacleddieck:    local WOTLK = not not ToggleAchievementsFrame
09:30.34ArrowmasterTentacled: bad
09:30.40Tentacleds/nts/nt/
09:30.50ArrowmasterGetBuildInfo()
09:31.11dieckTentacled: nice idea, thx :)
09:31.12Tentacledhey, anything that works :)
09:31.20Arrowmasterlocal WotLK = select(4,GetBuildInfo()) >= 30000
09:31.31Arrowmasterchecking for functions is bad
09:31.44dieckah, that looks more professional :) but I like the ArchievmentFrame idea ;)
09:31.52Arrowmasteryou shouldnt
09:32.14Tentacledit is. GetBuildInfo is indeed the "true" solution.
09:32.15Arrowmasterthey removed one of the achievement frame functions last build
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09:34.27Fisker-Kaelten my friend!
09:34.37Fisker-any plans on a onebank and onering replacement as well? :o
09:34.41Kaeltenof course
09:34.50Fisker-rawr
09:34.54cncfanaticsWTB free vwmare
09:34.57cncfanaticsvmware*
09:35.19Fisker-sure
09:35.27Fisker-you can buy free vmware from me for 2000$
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09:42.13AntiarcIs there someone here with a paladin named Bubbilee?
09:42.20AntiarcIn a guild named <WTB API PST>
09:42.33Adirellecncfanatics: virtual box ?
09:42.46Adirellewoot, Antiarc is a alive !
09:42.54AntiarcI am!
09:43.46cncfanaticsAdirelle: I love you
09:43.46Adirelleyou didn't read the ace forums, did you ?
09:43.53AntiarcI did not, no
09:43.57AntiarcI've been super busy
09:43.59AntiarcWhat's up?
09:45.25Funkeh`so
09:45.29Funkeh`anyone playing tf2
09:45.40Arrowmasteri did a little the other day
09:45.48Funkeh`I just installed hl2 and steam just to try it
09:46.02cncfanaticsoh btw, anyone can tell me what the EU developper guild is called on the beta servers ?
09:46.02Arrowmastermy computer lags a lot playing it though
09:46.03AdirelleAntiarc: I've sent you some PM
09:46.25Funkeh`intense graphics?
09:46.27Adirellecncfanatics: don't, virtualbox doesn't handle internal natted network like vmware do
09:46.40Arrowmasterold computer, not much ram
09:46.59AntiarcI'll check it
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09:47.32nevcairielcncfanatics: horde or alliance?
09:47.45CIA-47tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r5b9f5c7 10/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Various small guide fixes - http://is.gd/1QTG
09:47.54cncfanaticsnevcairiel: horde
09:48.10nevcairielsecure templars, iirc
09:48.35CIA-4703ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80841 10ag_UnitFrames/ (18 files in 16 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Various tweaks and fixes
09:48.43Funkeh`what wierds me out
09:48.48Funkeh`it's over 4 gig
09:49.30cncfanaticsomg
09:49.40cncfanaticsthe terminal command for virtualbox is VirtualBox
09:49.45cncfanaticsless capitals plx
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09:50.32ArrowmasterFunkeh`: my steam dir is 20 gigs
09:50.38Adirellecncfanatics: and you'll have to set up some network bridging (though I guess you're on linux, where this isn't too difficult)
09:50.51cncfanaticsAdirelle: I'm on linux yes
09:50.56cncfanaticsand I jsut need it to play the odd windows game tbh
09:51.04cncfanaticsmost of my games work perfectly on wine
09:51.06cncfanaticsjust some don't :p
09:52.16AntiarcAdirelle: Hm, it seems that you could provide GetLength and GetThickness alongside GetHeight and GetWidth, to allow for a smooth transition without having to have two versions of the lib in trunk
09:52.22AntiarcThey're the same thing, just smarter
09:54.55AntiarcI'd like to avoid a new version of the lib in trunk if possible, because that just creates confusion and maintenance problems
09:55.01AntiarcIf it's absolutely required, sure
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09:55.41Arrowmasterwhat lib?
09:55.46AntiarcLibBars-1.0
09:55.57CIA-4703nevcairiel 07WotlK * r80842 10Bartender4/buttonPrototypes/ActionButton.lua: Bartender4: small fix for classes without stances
09:56.03KaaosaSo like, I've got Grid set to show a little square when someone has a Renew, but is it possible to have it only show when it's my Renew?
09:56.46cncfanaticsKaaosa: yes
09:56.55cncfanaticsdownload the module MyHots
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09:57.21cncfanaticsnevcairiel: can't find anyone online from that guild
09:57.24KaaosaAwesome, thanks
09:57.43nevcairielcncfanatics: maybe there is noone online right now? :)
09:58.24cncfanaticsnevcairiel: possible, but not probable :p
09:58.46nevcairielI'm nearly always alone in the alliance guild
09:58.50nevcairielso its probable
10:01.24AdirelleAntiarc: actually, that the switching of width/height at creation the is a bit misleading
10:02.13Adirelleif I fix this, I think it would break some code used to it
10:02.14Antiarcwell, it seems like it's nearly entirely a semantic/doc change
10:02.37AntiarcHow so? Method signature changing?
10:04.09Adirellewell, actually you have (simplified code) : bar = addon:CreateBar(..., orientation, width, height) assert( (bar:IsVertical() and bar:GetHeight() or bar:GetWidth()) == width )
10:04.58Adirellemost of the code somehow use the "isvertical" thingy
10:05.21Adirellewell, wait
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10:06.56Adirellenevcariel proposed to modify the GetWidth()/GetHeight() to handle switching depending of orientation
10:07.07AdirelleI thought this wasn't a good idea*
10:07.20AntiarcI would say we create GetLength and GetThickness which do just that
10:07.26AntiarcLeaving GetWidth/GetHeight intact for now
10:07.36AntiarcThat preserves old code and provides a more fluid interface moving forward
10:07.41AntiarcWithout requiring a lib fork
10:07.56AntiarcDeprecate GetWidth/GetHeight in the doc
10:08.02AntiarcAnd then maybe remove them at some point down the road
10:08.12Adirellebut... the Createx() signature would change slighty to become CreateBar(..., orientation, length, thickness) (which is it is already de facto)
10:08.26AntiarcThat's fine, that's just naming, not implementation
10:08.38AntiarcExternal usage doesn't depend on what the parameters are named internally
10:08.41Adirellewell, GetWidth/GetHeight still have a sense : it's the vertical and horizontal dimension, whatever the orientation
10:08.57Adirelle(and they come from the Frame API)
10:09.55Adirelle(please forgive my grammar borking, I'm typing too fast :p)
10:10.19AntiarcWell, the goal, as I see it, is to not breaking existing usage, while providing more semantically correct usage for addons moving forward
10:10.30AntiarcOr am I completely missing the point? :)
10:10.35Adirelleno, no
10:12.06KaaosaWhere is this MyHots module located? >_>
10:13.03AdirelleAntiarc: and what about adding borders, spacing, SetLabel, SetValueLabel, Show/Hide Icon and the like ?
10:13.51AntiarcThat stuff seems fine, no reason why that shouldn't be included
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10:14.03Luthorhuss~seen hjalte
10:14.06purlhjalte <n=chatzill@0x57307810.svgnxx3.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19h 25m 3s ago, saying: 'Lyn_: Live here as well. I'm experiencing that whenever I use an action, it sort of goes back to how it used to look.'.
10:14.09AntiarcThe intent of the lib is to let programmers get to displaying bar and timer data as quickly as possible
10:14.12AntiarcThough --
10:14.25AntiarcI exposed the frame specifically so that programmers could put borders on it and whatnot
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10:15.39AdirelleI was wondering if it would be possible to allow to create some derivated prototypes
10:15.51Adirellebut that's ain't so easy
10:16.41Adirelleactually I did created some oo bar handling it in Yatba, but it's parallel to the bars and doesn't not inherited of the barPrototype
10:17.12Adirelles/not inherited/inherit/
10:19.01Fisker-i only has 30k
10:19.05Fisker-so i must do additional dailies
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10:22.22CIA-4703adirelle * r80843 10Yatba/libs/LibBars-1.1/ (7 files): Yatba: (LibBars-1.1): reverted splitting.
10:24.26AdirelleI'll finish that latter, I have to feed my daughter right now
10:26.39Corgananyone looked into the achievement hyperlinks?
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10:39.46Funkeh`hahaha
10:39.47Funkeh`oh my
10:39.50Funkeh`tf2 is awesome
10:40.50Fisker-oh my
10:42.08ArrowmasterFunkeh`: i should play latter and unlock the rest of the heavy weapons but im going to bed
10:42.41Fisker-you don't have heavy unlocks yet?
10:42.44Fisker-slow Arrowmaster is sloooooooow
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10:42.48AntiarcTF2 is wonderful
10:42.54Arrowmasteri only played for an hour or two
10:43.01AntiarcOh hey
10:43.05Arrowmasterive got all the medic and pyro ones though
10:43.08AntiarcIf anyone in here wants a month pass for TF2
10:43.10AntiarcI've got one
10:43.58Diskmasterhas only gotten the sandvich so far for the Heavy
10:44.27LukianAntiarc, my housemate would probably love that XD
10:44.57AntiarcLemme rustle it up
10:45.18Diskmasteralso appears to have a guest pass available
10:47.25AntiarcLukian: Can you PM me an email address ot send it to?
10:48.36Lukiandone
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10:50.04CIA-4703ammo * r80845 10oUF_Ammo/Ammo.lua: oUF_Ammo: fix health and power bar backgrounds
10:50.37DiskmasterWhat servers do you guys frequent when you play? :O
10:54.26[SW]Dodge2.4.3 is latest patch or is there allready a new one? (didnt played for more than 1 month)
10:55.47[SW]Dodgeokay patcher dont want to pacht more :D
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11:05.36cncfanatics~seen Wraithan
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11:05.43CIA-4703pericles * r80846 10InventoryOnPar/InventoryOnPar.lua:
11:05.43CIA-47InventoryOnPar:
11:05.43CIA-47-
11:05.43CIA-47v10.03 - Fix formula for WotLK
11:06.40epsoh wow obama picked clinton as his running mate 0.o; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65I0HNvTDH4
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11:09.21cladhairethat is pure win
11:09.24[Ammo]eps: I thought he picked that old fart?
11:09.28[Ammo]kiden or whatever
11:10.03epsjust following the report in the link :/
11:10.21[Ammo]Joe Biden
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11:24.18Corgananyone know the limit on requesting items from the server ._.
11:25.44Xinhuanlast i checked, its approximately 1 per 10 seconds
11:25.58Xinhuanfor invalid items
11:26.03Xinhuanand no limit for valid items
11:26.15Corganhrmm
11:26.18Xinhuan"valid item" here meaning the server has seen it since reboot
11:26.20Corganyeah
11:26.36Corganis there a limit of invalid items before a DC?
11:26.42Corganwithin a certain timeframe
11:26.48Xinhuanyeah, its about 6 per minute
11:26.58Corganright.
11:27.00Corgan<3
11:27.14Xinhuanyou're pretty safe if you limit to max 1 per 10 secs
11:27.31Xinhuanunless multiple addons are doing it
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11:43.46WobinAnyone who's in the US/Canada should go now and buy Beyond Good and Evil for $4.99: http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=game&AppId=15130
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11:57.13Lukianwhy isn't it available in my region? :(
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12:01.02Wobinbecause you're australian
12:01.09Wobinand not american/canadian
12:01.21WobinI totally agree with your sentiment
12:04.11Lukianhehe
12:04.28Lukiansilly question, but why can't I even view the product?
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12:10.11Wobincause it's only on offer to those people
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12:25.00CIA-4703danielbarron * r80847 10RaidBuffStatus/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
12:25.00CIA-47RaidBuffStatus:
12:25.00CIA-47- Added check for Trueshot Aura.
12:25.00CIA-47- Added an option to completely disable the dashboard and buff checking during combat.
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12:26.53cncfanaticshmmm, is there a way to tell pidgin to keep reconnecting until it manages ?
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12:30.42Trell-can anyone tell me if Coldarra is up?
12:31.24Zyndromeafaik it's struggling at this time of the day
12:31.38Trell-yeah I just got to char select, but it took absolutely ages.
12:32.31ZyndromeColdarra is down on all four, getting lashed and punched, bleeding from every orifice
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12:33.18Trell-oh, I'm in.
12:35.20ZyndromeI thought the same .. but then, Sir Lag and his henchmen appeared at the gates to the server
12:36.10Pneumatusare the instance servers just as bad, or is it just the northrend server?
12:37.12Trell-team fortress 2 it is then
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12:46.02Antiarchttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?quest=11934
12:47.15Zyndromehttp://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2743/wowscrnshot082208153002uc1.jpg
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12:48.47AdirelleAntiarc: here are the change I plan for LibBars-1.0 : http://ace.pastey.net/94509
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12:49.07AdirelleI tried to narrow them, this is drycode and I have yet to test them
12:49.28Adirelle(in fact, I already spotted some errors from first reading)
12:49.55Lyn_Zyndrome, gief axe!"
12:50.11Lyn_and lol @ text :o
12:53.49dieckhm, does GetSkillLineInfo return the "skillRank" with or without modifiers?
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12:58.42nevcairielAdirelle: you mis-spelled Iterate =P
12:59.34Adirellenevcairiel: thanks, I'm doing a second pass to fix some typos and inconsistencies
13:00.30ZyndromeLyn_ , not my character though
13:00.35Zyndrome(tauren, sheesh)
13:00.40Lyn_:o
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13:01.05Zyndromestill poking around as lvl 72 , with no idea where to go, stuck with elite-quests in Dragonblight D:
13:01.51Lyn_yeah i am 72 too with my undead dk
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13:03.58Zyndromesome quests could use more clear pointers where to go , especially the dragonflight ones D:
13:04.35Lyn_but hye, you see ysera in dragonblight!11 :DDD
13:04.49Zyndrome"Emerald Dragonshrine? Huh where? *wowhead* ... aha..."
13:05.06Lyn_:P
13:05.18Lyn_some hints are in the questlog
13:05.21Lyn_like "southwest"
13:05.26Lyn_and where is it? southeast or so
13:07.11Zyndrome< gleaner
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13:08.21Adirellelua> for a,b in pairs(nil) do end
13:08.21lua_botAdirelle: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)
13:08.27Adirelledamn it
13:08.36Adirellelua> for a,b in nil do end
13:08.36lua_botAdirelle: luabot:1: attempt to call a nil value
13:08.49Adirellelua> for a,b in function() end do end
13:08.49lua_botAdirelle: No output
13:08.52Adirellefine
13:09.29Zyndromehttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?quest=12474
13:10.12Zyndromeif you follow the instructions blindly , you end up at Storm Peaks
13:10.29Zyndromeor well, just follow them :p
13:10.44Zyndrome"Take the north gate out of town and travel north by northwest until you arrive at your destination."
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13:23.09AdirelleAntiarc, nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14641.msg238620#msg238620
13:23.20AdirelleI'm have to go, please leave comments on the topic
13:23.22Adirellelater
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13:35.29Lyn_anyone knows a good name for a boar pet? (huntard)
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13:37.02Dark_ElfPorkchop
13:37.30Lyn_xD
13:38.26ZyndromeLunch
13:38.33kappaccino`breakfast
13:39.01kappaccino`oh boar pet...
13:39.06kappaccino`Mspiggy
13:39.22ZyndromeOMGCHARGESTUNSTUN
13:39.25Zyndrome..
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13:39.51Lyn_mh
13:39.55PneumatusPumba
13:40.15Zyndromeor just name it any inanimate random object
13:41.08Wobin"Cat"
13:42.28Lyn_I tame a black boar and call it BLACKDEATH! :O
13:42.50Wobinpft
13:42.55Wobinboring name
13:42.58Lyn_Blackcow
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13:43.29Zyndrome"Cat"
13:43.30WobinSquare
13:43.38Lyn_I call it Chargestunbacon
13:43.51WobinBaconBits
13:43.58Lyn_Chargingbacon
13:44.09WobinKosher
13:44.58Lyn_baconboy :o
13:45.33Pneumatusare there any addons in development that work as an item browser with the new token frame, so they show you what you can buy with the tokens you have?
13:45.49Lyn_does the token frame work now?
13:46.05Pneumatusyup
13:46.34Lyn_also the BC "badge of justice"?
13:46.50Pneumatuswell, the only thing ive got in my token window is badges of justice :)
13:47.17Lyn_ah nice
13:47.18Lyn_:)
13:47.32Lyn_can you give me a screenshot with them ? cant login atm :x
13:47.45Pneumatusnot logged in atm
13:47.49Lyn_ah okay :)
13:51.59Pneumatusi tempted to write an item browser that links with the tokens screen, just, its been semi-done in about a million addons already
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13:54.20Lyn_mh :o sounds nice? would be cool when its like lightheaded... on the side of the token screen :)
13:54.50Pneumatusyeh, so you open up the token screen and you get a 2nd panel to the right, with all the items you can afford/use, and options to show stuff you still cant afford
13:55.01Trell-so code it
13:55.02Trell-go go go
13:55.28Lyn_and you can slide it in and out!
13:55.29Lyn_:D
13:55.37Lyn_i like sliding things XD
13:55.38LukianPneumatus, extend atlasloot? :o
13:56.21Pneumatusi looked at atlasloot's code once
13:56.28Pneumatusthat was one time too many
13:57.01Pneumatusplus, it would only be a very small subset of atlasloots data anyway
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13:57.56Pneumatusi might have a play around this afternoon and see whats possible from the token window
13:59.22Lyn_Pneumatus, I want to be a beta tester! :O
14:01.29Trell-did someone say the Aura module on beta works with pitbull now?
14:01.34Trell-'cos I'm still getting the same errors
14:01.48Stanzillanah, doesn't work
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14:02.34vrakwhere do i report bugs ? (trac.wowace.com doesn't resolve)
14:03.53Megalonvrak: http://jira.wowace.com i think :>
14:04.42VangualTrell-: what kinda errors? the current version available should still yield some errors if you have class-spell filters set
14:06.21Trell-er I forget now, went back to agUF - but it was the same error I was getting with Aura module enabled - constant error about spellAura
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14:10.17ashbhmmm anyone know of a library that will give me the res of a friendly player?
14:12.23dodgaIsn't their LibResComm or something?
14:12.38ashbi was thinking more from just inspecting
14:12.40dodgas/their/there/
14:12.47dodgadamn my typing goes all the way down
14:13.07Trell-this error comes up in the latest build for agUF on selecting ANY target: agUnitClass.lua:2153: Usage: GetComboPoints("unit"[,"target"]
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14:13.46Jibbsanyone farmiliar with AceLocale and how to use it properly?
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14:13.58cladhaireJibbs: don't.. there's hardly any need to.
14:14.05cladhairebut that's just my opinion
14:14.12Jibbshaha. well what's its purpose?
14:14.16cladhairelocalization
14:14.18Jibbsi see it used frequently in ace mods
14:14.21Jibbsah
14:14.45ashbdodga: Keeps track of resurrection spells casted in a group.
14:14.52ashbLibResComm-1.0 ain't what you think :)
14:14.59Matrix110|just let a Popup appear: USE THE FUCKING ENGLISH CLIENT
14:16.23Jibbsi'm looking for good documentation on how to properly use aceOptions for waterfall
14:16.54[Ammo]I suggest reading up on AceConfigDialog and its options if you're going to use waterfall
14:17.47dodgaashb: Oh I see, thought you were looking for that kind of thing :)
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14:19.33Jibbs[Ammo]... I'm looking for documentation on how to properly build my options table
14:19.43Jibbsas in what types i have access to primarily
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14:24.48ashbdodga: resilience was what i meant, soz
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14:30.44dodgaOh I see
14:32.26ZhinjioG'morning.
14:34.28ashbthere's no different between resilience and resilience rating is there?
14:34.39ashbwell
14:34.50ashbyeah, is there?
14:36.22chexsum<PROTECTED>
14:36.41chexsumhavent seen anything that isnt
14:37.28ashbno neither had i
14:37.30ashbhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibItemBonus-2.0/LibItemBonus-2.0/locales/enUS.lua
14:37.34ashbseems to have a pattern for both
14:37.39ashbwhich got me wondering
14:39.13chexsumthey both use the same info
14:39.20chexsumsame as defense
14:39.47chexsumwhereas twith hit theres HIT and TOHIT
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14:46.45Pneumatushmm, why do i have a feeling dicking with the token window is out of my league
14:47.56GnarfozTrell-: once again, you amaze
14:48.05GnarfozTrell-: agUnitClass.lua has 707 lines. :P
14:48.15Gnarfoz767
14:49.03Gnarfozyou're obviously not using the "latest build" ;)
14:49.59Gnarfozsvn co http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/ag_UnitFrames/Ace3-WotLK/ c:\temp\aguf\   (and then copy out the 3 ag_* dirs to your addons dir)
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14:55.52Ackiswow auth down?
14:56.03dieckwas it ever up today?
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14:56.32diecktried several times and did not get any login. sometimes I got to the char selection, but no chars were loaded
14:56.54Ackisugh
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14:57.07ashbah Examiner does what i want anyway
14:57.08ashbjob done
14:57.56ZhinjioG'morning, Ackis
14:58.09Zhinjiowife and bebe come home today!
14:58.14Ackisomg cool :D
14:58.24Zhinjioyeah, now we can figure out how life works again
14:58.34Pneumatusis the whole of coldarra down atm, or just the northrend server?
14:58.37Ackishaha it doesn't for another 10 years my friend ;)
14:58.50cncfanaticsPneumatus: I just got kicked from calderra as well
14:58.58Zhinjiowell, we need to get some new routines going at least.
14:59.40Ackisheh can you do that with a baby right now? unpredictable poops
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15:02.12Zhinjiowe'll see, I guess.
15:04.05Ackisany people play on illidan here? :)
15:04.53kenlyricunpredictable baby is unpredictable
15:05.09kenlyricthat said, last night was our fifth nigh in a row of sleeping through the night
15:05.14kenlyricsweet, joyful rapture
15:05.47Ackiswhat's your phone number? I want to call you at 4am so you don't get used to it
15:05.49dieckkenlyric: drugs or muffles? :)
15:07.05kenlyriccattleprod during the day
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15:07.31diecksound like a reliable method :)
15:08.28Pneumatusumm, am i being a div with AceHook-3.0... v2 says you can directly hook a function, but v3 wants a object and a method?
15:09.09ashbPneumatus: what do you want to hook?
15:10.24Pneumatuswell, the tokenframe is built from a bunch of TokenFrameContainerButtonN's, but i figured i should just be able to hook TokenButton_OnClick, rather than finding every instance and then hooking those
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15:10.36XelopherisDo TourGuide or Tomtom work on beta yet?
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15:22.21Trell-Xelopheris; TourGuide has no guides for Northrend yet
15:22.31Trell-and isn't likely to until a while after retail
15:22.39PolarinaShame.
15:23.49Ackisthere's guides in development
15:24.13PolarinaDry-coded guide?
15:24.31Ackis:P
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15:25.05dodgaDry-guided code?
15:25.08GnarfozTrell-: did you read? :>
15:25.15Trell-read what?
15:25.27Gnarfozmy "answer" to your ag_uf "bug report"
15:25.50Trell-hey, I just said what the error was telling me.
15:25.58Trell-don't shoot the messenger
15:26.03Gnarfozyou also said you were using "the latest build" which you don't :)
15:26.12Trell-normally I just skim read, pick out words that look important, then make up the rest of the sentence.
15:26.21Trell-so you're lucky you got the report verbatim
15:26.30Gnarfozimportant word: you're not up to date :D
15:27.09PolarinaThen write a in-game updater.
15:27.39Gnarfozuhm that's already been done, Polarina
15:27.46PolarinaGnarfoz: WHERE?!?
15:27.50GnarfozRDX
15:27.56Polarinagoogles.
15:28.06Gnarfozdon't you'll want to gouge your eyes out
15:28.26PolarinaReally complicated... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RDX
15:28.52Gnarfozerm yeah...
15:28.53Gnarfoznot.
15:29.08GnarfozRaid Data Exchange by Venificius :p
15:29.40PolarinaData, not code.
15:30.32Gnarfozso what?
15:30.35Gnarfozfucking google AGAIN
15:30.46XelopherisTrell: Tourguide has guides for outland which makes redoing those 10 levels on a DK bearable
15:30.47GnarfozI was providing you with better search terms :p
15:31.16Trell-yes, Xelopheris
15:31.21Trell-it works fine for 'old world' content.
15:31.26Trell-I use it on my DK.
15:31.41Gnarfozactually, I'd think work could be started on TourGuide guides in beta... quests will change, but I doubt it's gonna be that many
15:31.58Trell-Gnarfoz; you got a homepage for RDX?
15:32.03Trell-I can't find one through google
15:32.04kenlyricI believe it already has
15:32.09Gnarfozno I don't, Venificius does :D
15:32.11Trell-well, I can, but it's all old outdated stuff
15:32.20Gnarfozand no, it's not what you think when you hear "in-game updater"
15:32.22PolarinaTrell-: http://www.openrdx.com/
15:32.38GnarfozPolarina: no
15:32.48PolarinaGnarfoz: It stands for Raid Data Exchange.
15:32.56Polarinahttp://elitistjerks.com/f32/t19460-openrdx_-_raid_data_exchange/
15:33.01GnarfozI hate stupid people.
15:33.16GnarfozVenificius wrote RDX and it's that pay-for-use mod, if THAT rings a bell
15:33.24Gnarfozopenrdx and rdx.cid are clones
15:33.29PolarinaOh..
15:34.04GnarfozI think it's defunct by now, anyway
15:34.15Gnarfozand: it's not an "ingame addon updater" :D
15:34.27Gnarfozit has some mechanism to distribute bossmod code to your raid, though
15:34.45Gnarfozso you could adapt (or write) mods on the fly and distribute them
15:34.45PolarinaGnarfoz: In-game updater for general use?
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15:34.58Chomperspay to use a mod, oh my
15:35.03Gnarfoz"I was elected to leeeeeeeed, not to reeeeeeeeed."
15:35.04AckisGnarfoz: there's wrath guides out already :P
15:35.12GnarfozAckis: so? good!
15:35.13PolarinaGnarfoz: lol
15:35.24Ackisjust saying :P
15:36.43PolarinaI demand a quest named "The Swarms are Back"
15:39.07Polarinais bored and implements a O(log2n) algorithm for fibonacci numbers.
15:40.09Ackis...
15:40.41Pneumatuswhy do i get the feeling doing this (http://ace.pastey.net/94516) isn't the best way to hook OnClick for the token buttons
15:41.01AckisI need a bot that will run around tab dotting all mobs in the area for me :P
15:41.32kenlyricrdx was well worth it if you made full use of it. Which nobody ever did because they broke much of its functionality with secure frames.
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15:42.35kenlyricdynamically changing frames and sending them other people made healing assignments pretty trivial.
15:42.41kenlyricPUSH THIS BUTTON FOR WIN
15:43.09Gnarfozkenlyric: I certainly agree =)
15:44.36fewyn"Push this button to make the server crash"
15:45.11Ackissomeone at blizz keeps doing that fewyn
15:45.16fewyni know :(
15:45.37fewynit keeps crashing while I'm filling out a feedback survey
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15:49.23PolarinaEfficient Fibonacci number implementation in Lua: http://rafb.net/p/xfjnLj93.html
15:51.38PolarinaComments?
15:51.46dieckonly one. WHY?
15:52.05PolarinaOne?
15:52.14dieckonly one comment :)
15:52.23XelopherisHrm, does that fibonaccis equence even work?
15:52.34PolarinaXelopheris: Yes, that algorithm works.
15:52.49PolarinaXelopheris: It's O(log2n)
15:52.55Ackismake it into a wow mod :P
15:53.10XelopherisCan anyone find ONE good reason to use a fibonacci sequence in a mod?
15:53.18Zyndromehttp://notalwaysright.com/sorry-youve-just-exceeded-our-stupid-quota/1115
15:53.25Zyndromehaha oh man I lol'd out hard at that one
15:53.27AckisXelopheris: spam
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15:54.14dodgaPolarina: Why don't you do "if n <= 0 then return 0 end" before declaring those locals and remove that if-sequence?
15:54.38Polarinadodga: I'm against multiple returns in a single procedures.
15:54.47Polarinas/procedures/procedure/
15:54.53dodgathen don't do efficient implementations of anything :P
15:54.56dieckheuraka. first login to coldarra today
15:55.32Polarinadodga: It's already O(log2n).
15:55.38Polarinadodga:
15:55.44dodgabut think about the stack! :>
15:55.50Gnarfozthat doesn't sound very efficient
15:56.11Gnarfozoh btw
15:56.16Gnarfozis Murder Spree working in 8820?
15:56.31GnarfozI want to finally level my rogue a bit, but broken ultimates kind of make it boring :p
15:57.30PolarinaGnarfoz: It's the most efficient fibonacci algorithm you can find.
15:57.55Gnarfozpossible, it's not like I care :d
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15:58.26AckisGnarfoz: tits or gtfo!!!!
15:58.37Gnarfozshoves his manboobs into Ackis' face
15:58.49Ackismmmmm *boings*
15:59.17CIA-4703ennuilg * r80848 10scorchio/ (changelog.txt core.lua scorchio.toc):
15:59.17CIA-47scorchio:
15:59.17CIA-47- Hardcoded player as FALSE in blacklist.
15:59.33Ackissomeone should fix welfare epics for me
15:59.53AckisRavenholdt: Friendly - 2583/6000 (43.0%)
16:00.26CIA-4703arcanefoam * r80849 10DHUD2/ (DHUD2_README_EN.txt core.lua texts.lua):
16:00.26CIA-47DHUD2:
16:00.26CIA-47- Fixed bugs that didn't change the color of the bars according to the bar value
16:00.26CIA-47- Added additional logic to avoid bugs on elite type and target text sometimes popping
16:00.26CIA-47- Fixed bug that showed empty bars when you die in dead to alive instances, i.e. TK & Kara
16:01.03GnarfozAckis: are you still not killing mobs until 0/21000?
16:02.06dodgaYou never kill mob for Ravenholdt fame afaik
16:02.32Gnarfozyes, you do
16:02.37Gnarfozask Xinhuan ^^
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16:03.08dodgaoh, okay you can turn in syndicate emblems
16:03.11Xinhuanu can kill mobs 1 rep each until 11999/12000
16:03.22Xinhuanthereafter, 1400 lockboxes from there to exalted
16:03.54dodgahm which mobs, wow wiki seems borked
16:04.04Xinhuandurnhold keep in hillsbrad (the lvl 20 zone)
16:04.16Xinhuani just run around and ice lance
16:04.24XelopherisXin, it's retarded long to do >.>
16:04.30AckisI'm killing them now :P turned in boxes to get to about 1600 into friendly
16:04.32Xelopherisrespawn time of that place is like, 5m
16:04.34Ackisand I'm pissing off lowbies
16:04.40Xinhuani assure you killing 75 mobs is far faster than pickpocketing 5 boxes for the same 75 rep
16:04.58Xinhuanwrong, respawn time is as soon as there is less than 50% of mobs alive
16:05.04Xinhuanthey are using dynamic respawn
16:05.21Gnarfozfunny how they only employ that in, like, 5 places
16:05.22Gnarfoz>_>
16:05.22Xinhuansometimes i kill mobs and they respawn in front of me
16:06.16dieckColdarra Northrend down again. Beta is not as much fun as I anticipated :)
16:06.38Ackishave you started on darkmoon faire?
16:06.49Xinhuannot really, not sure if i want to try
16:06.57Xinhuanaces of old decks are incredibly anal to get
16:07.03Xinhuanlvl 60 ones that is
16:07.10Xinhuanand lvl 70 decks are expensive
16:07.16Xinhuanwould you spend 100k gold to rep it?
16:07.27Ackisyou can get 2000/6000 by normal turn ins, and then need around 110 decks to get exalted
16:07.40Xinhuani'm aware, in fact i'm 4k/6k
16:08.15cncfanaticswhy would anyone want ravenholdt rep ? :o
16:08.23Stanzillafor teh lulz
16:08.24Xinhuanproblem is collecting the decks is a chore, and requires like 2 bank tabs of space
16:08.25dodgaFor the title "The Exalted" :o
16:08.27Stanzillaand for the full rep bar
16:08.28Gnarfozmore Achievements :D>
16:09.01cncfanaticsis that getting exalted with all factions ingame ?
16:09.17dodgaXinhuan: Why don't you turn in Scorpid Blood?
16:09.27Xinhuanbecause it doesn't give rep past 2000/6000
16:09.39Xinhuanwell i decided long long ago not to try exalted bloodsail and steemwheedel at the same time
16:10.06Stanzillaisnt exalted bloodsail killing 1 mob with a 5 min respawn timer from revered to exalted?
16:10.14Xinhuanyes
16:10.24dodgahm I see
16:10.39Stanzillathat's very stupid >.<
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16:10.48Xinhuanexactly
16:11.09XelopherisIt takes about 2 months if you do it every respawn
16:11.26Xinhuanalso it takes
16:11.38Xinhuananother 200 or so diremaul keys to go from hated back to neutral
16:12.07Xinhuan1 key approx is 1 hour
16:12.30Xinhuando that 5 hours a day, its like 40 days
16:12.36StanzillaI'm faster with Mind Soothe :P
16:12.45Xinhuannot really
16:12.52Xinhuanthe boss guards take 10% chance to drop
16:12.55Stanzillawell you have invis and blink
16:13.00Xinhuanbut the normal elites drop them at 3% chance
16:13.11Xinhuanu still have to grind them
16:14.10AckisXinhuan: I just ran in, killed boss 1, boss 2, reset, repeat
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16:14.25Xinhuani worked out that kiling bosses only and resetting is slower
16:14.29Xinhuancos i tried it
16:14.39Xinhuancos kiling 3 ogres gives the same chance as killing 1 guard
16:14.57Xinhuanits easier just to clear every pack but prioritize the guards first
16:17.14Jibbswhats the API to create a font string in lua?
16:17.28Jibbsyou cant do it with createframe can you?
16:21.12Gnarfozclose, but no cigar
16:21.33Jibbsi didnt think so
16:21.43Jibbswhats the proper call?
16:22.07AckisI think someone reported me for killing the syndicate mobs...
16:22.17Jibbsis it createfont?
16:22.29Gnarfoz!api CreateFontString
16:22.29lua_botCould not find a match for 'CreateFontString'.
16:22.31Gnarfoz:X
16:22.34Gnarfoz!api CreateFont
16:22.34lua_botDocumentation for 'CreateFont' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CreateFont
16:22.36Gnarfozyay
16:23.44Gnarfozso, anyone think http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=fMefoe0sVMoArstZc makes sense to do some leveling?
16:23.53Ackisno
16:23.57GnarfozI haet you
16:24.15AckisI didn't look tbh
16:24.26GnarfozI could tell from your response time :p
16:24.40Ackismaybe i'm just fast
16:25.08GnarfozI know you not to be
16:25.12Jibbsyeah but how do i apply that to a frame?
16:25.12Gnarfoz:D you're a troll, mon.
16:25.45GnarfozJibbs: actually, it's CreateFontString, I just fail at using the bot
16:25.51Gnarfoz!api Frame CreateFontString
16:25.51lua_botCould not find a match for 'Frame CreateFontString'.
16:25.55Gnarfoz!api Frame:CreateFontString
16:25.56lua_botCould not find a match for 'Frame:CreateFontString'.
16:25.58Gnarfozwhatever :(
16:26.17PolarinaIs anyone interested in a MISC architecture?
16:26.23CIA-4703adirelle * r80850 10LibBars-1.0/ (LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua TODO):
16:26.24CIA-47LibBars-1.0:
16:26.24CIA-47- new bar and group methods: :ShowIcon(), HideIcon(), :IsIconShown(), :ShowLabel(), :HideLabel(), IsLabelShown(), :ShowTimerLabel(), :HideTimerLabel(), :IsTimerLabelShow(),
16:26.24CIA-47- new bar and group methods: :SetThickness(), :GetThickness(), :SetLength(), :GetLength(),
16:26.24CIA-47- new bar methods: :SetLabel(), :SetTimerLabel(), :GetLabel(), :GetTimerLabel(),
16:26.27CIA-47- new group methods : :IterateBars(), :HasAnyBar(),
16:26.29CIA-47- updated the DODO file,
16:26.39Ackis~fail Gnarfoz
16:26.40purlYou suck at everything in life, Gnarfoz. I hate you because you fail.
16:26.41AckisDODO file?
16:27.16PolarinaAckis: Dry-coded commit log.
16:27.57Gnarfozag`: ping
16:28.11AdirelleAckis: yes, DODO file, I said
16:28.13Adirelle(damn it)
16:28.31Adirelleer... any way to edit the log anyone ? xD
16:28.44GnarfozAdirelle: no, that's because it's a log.
16:28.57Gnarfozag`: ag_uf is broken on beta :(
16:28.59AdirelleGnarfoz: actually, svn admin could do it, but I was joking
16:29.13Ackishad to get someone to edit a svn log once...
16:32.11noctsOpinions on Ouf versus ag_uf?
16:32.55Ackisthey're both unit frames
16:33.30JibbsCreateFontString is not a valid method
16:33.34Jibbsis it frame:CreateFontString () ?
16:33.49Ackisjibbs: try www.wowwiki.com -> interface section
16:34.21Jibbsthere's quite a large gap of information in the widget api for creating a dynamic font string
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16:34.47Jibbsbut i seem to have stumbled on something
16:36.45CIA-4703adirelle * r80851 10Yatba/ (Yatba.lua Yatba.toc libs/LibBars-1.1/): Yatba: got rid of internal LibBars in favor of up-to-date LibBars-1.0.
16:37.05dieckhm. I've much to travel to become "The Explorer" with my druid :)
16:38.37GnarfozJibbs: yes, it's frame:CreateFontString()
16:38.54Gnarfozag`, nevcairiel: http://ace.pastey.net/94518 :(
16:39.20Kaaosayeeeeaaaah, Red Alert 3 beta~
16:39.45Gnarfozalso lol
16:39.56Gnarfozall my fubar plugins get jumbled around on beta now
16:39.57Gnarfoz:X
16:40.01Gnarfozhalp
16:41.07Gnarfozckknight: is there any way to get more info than [18:39:34]Error loading LoadOnDemand plugin FuBar_DurabilityFu   [18:39:35]Error loading LoadOnDemand plugin FuBar_TrackerFu  on errors like these?
16:42.16AckisRavenholdt: Friendly - 3003/6000 (50.0%)
16:42.18Ackisugh
16:42.31Adirelleanyone could explain why this piece of code doesn't work unless I change the font name ? http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua?r=80401#l852
16:42.34Ackis[09:59] <Ackis> Ravenholdt: Friendly - 2583/6000 (43.0%)
16:42.42Ackisso I'm looking at an hour per 500 rep
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16:45.52Ackiszomg nymbia
16:45.56Ackisyou missed crocs yesterday :P
16:47.09CIA-4703adirelle 07Ace3 * r80852 10CastYeller/: CastYeller: Ace3 branch merged back into trunk long time ago.
16:48.01WobinAckis: how are you gaining rep?
16:48.14Ackiskilling syndicate mobs in durnhold
16:48.22Wobincan you use lockboxes?
16:48.28Ackisyes
16:49.09CIA-4703adirelle 07oo * r80853 10Yatba/: Yatba: branch merged into trunk.
16:49.56GnarfozWobin: yes, but that's slower
16:50.08Wobinwell, that plus killing
16:50.19Wobincause you get the lockboxes before the kill =)
16:50.19Ackismeh it's probably the same for me
16:50.39Ackiswould need 35 lock boxes an hour to be 550 rep
16:50.56Wobinare you a rogue?
16:50.57Ackisand I was getting a lot of them from AV last night
16:51.03Ackisno, have a rogue alt though
16:51.06Wobinoh
16:51.17Wobinotherwise I'd have suggested you pickpocket before you kill =)
16:51.28Ackisthese guys don't drop the lockboxes you need
16:51.33Ackislevel 55-62is mobs do
16:51.50Ackisthese are level 20ish only
16:52.01Adirelleany replacement for PT3Bar ? AutoBar still seems er... large...
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16:52.55Ackisbut if you're on Illidan US I'll buy heavy junkboxes from you :P
16:53.39fewyndehta is cenarion expedition rep, that's weird
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16:54.44CIA-4703wobin * r80854 10Xparky/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
16:54.44CIA-47Xparky - Fairly much a complete rewrite.
16:54.44CIA-47- Now is better designed in terms of OO and is more reliable in rotational results.
16:54.44CIA-47- Next up is to setup the setup again and hook the events
16:54.44CIA-47- will probably add LDB later, depending on how things work.
16:55.17GnarfozAdirelle: lol, and PT itself isn't "large"? :X
16:55.35AdirelleGnarfoz: yes, but I already use Baggins and the like
16:55.51Adirelleso PT3Bar is just a thin layer over it
16:55.51Gnarfozso? AB uses PT, too?
16:56.16Adirelleseems far more complicated
16:56.28Adirellethough it's maybe more sane since Toadkiller rewrote it
16:56.40Adirellethe original code was awful
16:57.17Gnarfozcouldn't care less tbh
16:57.35GnarfozI've yet to see something that comes close, functionality-wise
16:57.51nymbiato each his own ;p
16:58.07Gnarfozyeah, more working addons to ME pls
16:58.15Gnarfozwhat changed in 8820 that broke so much? :X
16:58.47nymbiaand i think comparing autobar's largeness to PT3 is flawed, since autobar uses/includes PT3
16:58.47Ackis~lart nymbia
16:58.47purlnabs the moon and broadsides nymbia with the sea of tranquility
16:59.43Adirellenymbia: actually, we were comparing autobar and pt3bar, both using PT
17:00.32Xelopheriswowow, zeppelins don't dismount you anymore
17:00.38nymbiaAdirelle: hrm... well in that case, it's a pretty clear comparison
17:01.01nymbiapt3bar is what.. a couple hundred lines long?
17:01.44Adirellesomething like that
17:01.54Adirelleraw configuration
17:02.01nymbiathe difference is features vs size
17:02.29Adirelleand I'm using a branched version that just adds pet feeding
17:02.31Lukianag`, around?
17:02.50nymbiathrew pt3bar together because i didn't need 95% of what autobar had to offer, especially at the performance cost (which was high back then, may be much better now)
17:03.38Adirellesame here, I think Toadkiller made a good work on it, he should had renamed it AutoBar2 IMO
17:05.06Ackis~seen kagaro
17:05.07purlkagaro <n=kagaro@cpe-065-190-128-061.nc.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7d 23h 18m 7s ago, saying: 'Arrowmaster: did you update your svn checkout? I added the binmode for windows'.
17:05.24Ackisnymbia came back now I just need kagaro to as well!
17:05.58nymbia~flee
17:05.59purlACTION runs away screaming
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17:07.29Ackisoh come on, all I'd do is ask you to check for 78 different items on the AH for me :P
17:07.42Gnarfozso, LSM-3.0 is broken on beta? or so :X
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17:09.02nymbiaAckis: rofl
17:09.11JerleMinaraanyone know aynthing about a known issue with flametongue weapon on beta?
17:11.13Ackisnymbia: http://www.illidrama.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16737 heh
17:12.01nymbiaAckis: hahaha
17:12.09nymbiaAckis: old world cards?  why?
17:12.18Ackisdarkmoon faire rep
17:12.28nymbiaoh
17:12.28nymbialol
17:12.48nymbiaintense
17:12.56nymbiawhere's your rep at now?
17:13.09Ackis(4350/6000)
17:13.19AckisExalted Darkmoon Faire (4350/6000) 99 decks needed (6 saved)
17:13.24AckisExalted Ravenholdt (3170/6000) (Syndicate kills needed: 14830  Heavy Junkboxes needed: 1400 to exalted (58 saved))
17:13.36nymbiawow
17:13.40Ackisso I need 93 decks to get exalted lol
17:13.48nymbiakeep ya busy til wrath i guess ;)
17:14.00Ackislol yup
17:14.34Ackisjust hard to find the cards
17:16.57Ackisso feel free to check ally AH for me for decks, you find any 300g or less grab em ;)
17:17.05nymbiasure thing
17:17.25Ackistrying to go into wrath w/ 39 exalteds
17:18.15CIA-4703feithar * r80855 10/branches/FBagOfHolding/:
17:18.15CIA-47FBagOfHolding:
17:18.15CIA-47- Branching for WotLK
17:18.18WobinYou're insane, Ackis =P
17:18.29Fisker-why so nymbia nymbia?
17:18.44nymbiaFisker-: its all your fault
17:19.24AckisWobin: why so serious?
17:20.37Ackishttp://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh172/jthees/lolcats/Serious-Cat-Joker.jpg
17:20.42Ackisjust for you Fisker-
17:22.41Fisker-Why so minicity spam Ackis?
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17:29.31Ackisit's not spam! http://ackis.myminicity.com/sec
17:32.15fewynkill it!
17:32.16fewynit's spam!
17:33.16Ackisno
17:33.17Ackisclick it
17:33.18Ackis:P
17:34.01fewyni know what it is, i clicked it already
17:34.12Ackisyay
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17:42.37JerleMinaraanyone using baggins in beta?
17:47.25Pneumatushmm, i cant decide a good way to display items purchasable with tokens
17:47.44Pneumatustoying with the idea of perhaps using MerchantFrame, but it could get messy i think :s
17:50.53PolarinaPneumatus: Show the token icon just as you show the gold, silver and copper icon.
17:51.43PneumatusPolarina, that's what i'm thinking, but i'm concerned that it's going to get messy due to the fact its not actually tied to a merchant, etc
17:52.16PolarinaPneumatus: How can you tell without making an attempt?
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17:52.24Pneumatusi can't :)
17:52.31Trell-does recount hold any more data than the last 5 fights?
17:52.42PolarinaPneumatus: This is World of Warcraft, you are forced to do things the ugly way.
17:52.52PolarinaPneumatus: Get used to it. :)
17:53.01Pneumatuswell, the other option would be to write a complete frame/interface for displaying the items
17:53.07GnarfozTrell-: uhm, yes.
17:53.45Trell-how do I access it?
17:53.51PolarinaPneumatus: You can just copy the original display function, make it local and modify it to display tokens.
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17:53.56Trell-I can see it's got data, since it's showing in other windows
17:54.04Trell-but I wanna see it on the 'main' window
17:54.37Gnarfozeh?
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17:54.41Gnarfozselect "overall data"
17:55.18Trell-yes.
17:55.19Trell-I have :P
17:55.29Gnarfozwhat more do you want?
17:55.32Trell-I want to use that drop down to show other fights than just the last 5
17:55.52PolarinaTrell-: All it takes is to modify a local variable.
17:56.02Trell-ie; last night we did TK - I want to be able to select the VR or Al'Ar fight, but it's more than 5 fights ago
17:56.03Gnarfozyeah, or enable the "only show boss segments"
17:56.04Trell-if that makese sense
17:56.12Gnarfozoption
17:56.14Gnarfozin... the options window!
17:56.15Gnarfoz:D
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17:56.31Gnarfozwhich only puts fights with level -1 mobs in that list
17:56.34Trell-yeah, I've ticked that now
17:56.40Gnarfozmind you, wipes count as fights ;P
17:56.50Trell-but I still can't see Al'Ar or VR :(
17:56.52Gnarfozso, somebody know why my UI blew up in 8820 now?
17:57.10PolarinaGnarfoz: Patch Day?
17:57.13GnarfozPolarina: ?
17:57.23PolarinaGnarfoz: Thinks break during patch days.
17:57.25Gnarfozwhat part of "in 8820" was u nclear?
17:57.43PolarinaGnarfoz: I can get you a diff.
17:57.46Gnarfoznormally, my UI withstands "patch days" pretty easily.
17:57.49GnarfozI have a diff.
17:58.50Gnarfozsome LoD loading stuff seems to be affected
17:59.01GnarfozFuBar has trouble loading some plugins, and LSM-3.0 doesn't seem to get loaded at all
17:59.34PolarinaGnarfoz: Did the TOC get updated?
17:59.59Gnarfozit's not like that matters at all
18:00.19Gnarfozthere's a) "Load out-of-date addons" and b) well, a)
18:00.20Gnarfoz;D
18:01.23PolarinaGnarfoz: It doesn't load optional dependencies if a addon is out of date.
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18:02.59GnarfozPolarina: ...so? I don't see a case of that in my addons dir
18:03.08PolarinaOk.
18:03.22Gnarfozag_UF has LSM in it
18:04.09PolarinaI'm going to create a addon to crash the client.
18:07.13PolarinaNo wait, addon to make 3D glasses work!
18:07.24PolarinaToo bad I don't have one.
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18:11.47PolarinaYay, it works!
18:12.33Pneumatushmm, i have a feeling adding items to a merchant frame is gonna be more pain than its worth
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18:13.21PolarinaPneumatus: Override the API and provide extra information?
18:13.55Pneumatusjust having a look at what Ackis has done with WelfareEpics to see if im gonna be able to do it sensibly
18:17.37Gnarfoz/cry
18:18.32GnarfozLSM-3.0 no worky
18:19.03StanzillaGnarfoz: go pester Elkano
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18:20.07Groktargot my dk up to 67 now
18:21.29GnarfozStanzilla: :X
18:21.43Gnarfozit doesn't error though, so I have no idea what's wrong
18:24.29ag`Gnarfoz, what did you want earlier?
18:24.54Gnarfozag`: got the pastey link?
18:26.18ag`Gnarfoz, no, I was sleeping
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18:27.20Gnarfozag`: http://ace.pastey.net/94518
18:27.42Gnarfozag`: I'm not certain it's ag_uf's fault at all. FuBar behaves strangely, too, since 8820.
18:28.17Gnarfozag`: looks like LSM is broken somehow (doesn't error, though, I even got it as a stand-alone, made it non-LoD and bumped the TOC - nothing changed)
18:29.06CIA-47teknicolor: 03Tekkub 07master * rc196955 10/ teknicolor.lua : Adapt english handler for DK's - http://is.gd/1RgN
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18:29.33ag`Gnarfoz, yeah
18:32.18Gnarfozag`: is there any way to make it independant of LSM? ^^
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18:32.54Gnarfozother than willing Elkano in here to yell at him :D
18:33.03nevcairieli didnt have any errors with LSM
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18:33.46Gnarfoznevcairiel: I said so, too. no errors. it just doens't work :D
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18:34.36Gagorianwhy does GridStatusHealingReduced announce every time that it's no longer being updated on wowace
18:34.40GagorianIt's starting to annoy
18:34.56nevcairielbecause it wants you to update from somewhere else
18:35.14GagorianOne announcement would be perfectly enough
18:35.40CIA-47picodps: 03Tekkub 07master * r205ccd1 10/ picoDPS.lua : Screw it, we'll update the text OnUpdate instead of when leaving combat - http://is.gd/1Rh9
18:35.54Gnarfoznevcairiel: or are you saying your ag_UF-WotLK-Ace3 works fine?
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18:36.16Stanzillamine looked weird and the raid icons were broken
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18:37.28Gnarfozmy bars are all white, raid icons show up all the time (all of them at the same time), frames don't update when I change targets, and the pasteyed errors, of course.
18:37.30CIA-47squeenix: 03Tekkub 07master * rf0bb42e 10/ tekKonfig/tekKonfigAboutPanel.lua : Embed update - http://is.gd/1Rhi
18:37.50StanzillaGnarfoz: yeah same here
18:37.59nevcairielI have the missing color bug, but ag is fixing that right now
18:38.08nevcairielbut i never had the other stuff you reported =P
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18:38.26nevcairielhttp://images.gammatester.com/pics/d96a42e675283966ca03cb4ba5922b42.jpg
18:38.27nevcairiellooks fun!
18:38.52Groktardo dk cooldowns spaz out for anyone else? abilites that require 2 or more  runes seem to sometimes show as being ready even when they're not
18:39.02Groktarusing bt4, haven't tried using default ui yet
18:39.04Stanzilla^^
18:39.07Dark_Elfi notice tourguide is on my screen like 3 times now, lol
18:39.23Killmorenevcairiel: nice !
18:40.00nevcairielalso some warrior buffed me with vigilance yesterday
18:40.03nevcairieland its still there
18:40.04nevcairiellol
18:40.46Groktarvigilance still has the 10% threat reduction?
18:40.51nevcairielya
18:40.54Groktarlooks for a warlock to put it on
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18:44.32KriLL3this might not the the channel of choice for this question but here goes anyway: anyone got experience with Razer's "Lachesis" mice? my current mouse is nearing the end of it's life cycle and I'm researching replacements  
18:45.12KriLL3the switch in the left click button is giving up after 5 years of gaming, most clicks become 2+ clicks
18:48.10Gary13579Next mouse I'm getting is G9, but haven't read much about that one sorry
18:48.34epsLook pretty good
18:48.35KriLL3Gary13579: from review I've read it's overpriced and not that good to begin with
18:48.51epsmy poor chameleon will probably die some day soon
18:48.59KriLL3I'm generally a logitech guy but they haven't made anything since my MX1000 to replace it
18:49.02Gary13579the G9? yeah, it's overpriced, but ebay is half the price for new
18:49.23Gary13579G15 was like $120, got it for $40 on eBay
18:49.24epshope it doesn't, it's been the best mouse I've had
18:49.55nymbiamx518, yo
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18:50.09KriLL3the mx518 to too few buttons for me
18:50.26nymbiafair enough
18:50.36epsstuff buttons I only use two + scroll constantly, I rarely use side buttons or any others
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18:50.58KriLL3I use the side buttons for all my druid shapeshifts :)
18:51.09epsI use fx keys :P
18:51.15KriLL3fx?
18:51.32epsf1 through f12
18:51.50KriLL3oh
18:52.08epsoh nice ts server is up to 700 clients atm :D
18:52.13Groktaruses function keys, too
18:52.16epsexpecting 3k in 15 minutes
18:52.32epsonly awesome advantage of ts is pure numbers it supports
18:52.38Groktarf1-f3 shapeshift and f5 focus
18:52.52epsf1 focus for me then the rest for forms but yeah works well
18:53.00KriLL3doesn't sound very convenient in combat to move your hand away from your movement keys
18:53.38epsfingers on a or d or w can hit the fx keys and it's doubtful that you'll be trying to move in three directions at any one time :P
18:54.06epsthe only time it gets tricky is when you're deflighting catforming running forward then stealthing all in one hit
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18:59.29ZhouI get  ESDF as moving keys, so QWAZXCVGTRTG and their shift-version are all easy to reach while moving using ESDF...
19:00.23epsI don't play wow that seriously
19:01.06ZhinjioI fail at sleeping today.
19:01.26Zhoujust shift your hand a little bit to right, get about 4 or 5 more keys to use, with shift, that will be more than 10....
19:02.02KriLL3Zhou: I use the same setup except I use a N52te
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19:06.03ennuilgMorning...
19:06.15KriLL3afternoon
19:07.43Zhou3AM here...
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19:09.18ennuilg~greeting
19:09.28ennuilg~morning
19:09.29purlGood morning!
19:09.37ennuilgGah... Thanks purl...
19:10.18ennuilgCan't find the thing about it always being morning on IRC, but trust me - it is! :-)
19:10.56Arrowmaster~ugt
19:10.56purlhmm... ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
19:11.03ennuilgThat's it! Ta.
19:12.41epsts server up to 1300 clients
19:13.04kappabuntuteamspeak?
19:13.21epsindeed
19:13.30CIA-4703ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80857 10ag_UnitFrames/ (5 files in 5 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: fix for missing textures and sm error
19:13.30kappabuntuscary
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19:20.23ag`Gnarfoz, try now
19:20.40Groktarinstalls
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19:23.34Groktaroh wow
19:23.47Groktari wonder what whacked out version of ag_unitframes i had
19:24.00Groktari just grabbed the latest of the svn and it's completely different
19:25.02Zhouget a quetion, is there any ace addon (or addons, more than one is ok) can alternate DoTimer. (CDT, ClassTimer are out of discussion, they don't fit my needs well)
19:25.28Groktarmaybe i should install ag_options
19:26.28LukianGroktar, yeah the svn version is epci
19:26.31Lukianepic :D
19:26.42Groktari was using something from wowinterface
19:26.50Groktarsaid it was rev 6xxxx
19:26.52GroktaroO
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19:28.27Groktarlove the new options
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19:30.30HjalteZhou: Yatba seems quite good. I am using that now for my hots + dots. If you need cooldowns, grab Heatsink.
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19:42.17AdirelleHjalte: didn't even know anyone used it ^^ it is kinda experimental
19:43.25Groktarshould aguf be disabling blizzard castbar and focus yet?
19:43.58nevcairielwhy should it disable the castbar?
19:44.21nevcairielbut it should hide the focus, yea
19:45.11Groktarit's got a castbar on the player frame
19:45.17Groktarif that's turned on it should hide the blizz bar
19:45.26Zhoudisable both...it shall has its own caster bar for each unit
19:46.42HjalteAdirelle: It works fine here. I like those headers with health.
19:47.13Ellipsisping Shefki
19:47.21ennuilgI can't remember the last time I upgraded ag_UF... It's just always worked.
19:48.18Zhouhow does au_UF compared with Pitbull?
19:48.55Stanzillaless features, better performance
19:49.17Zhoui c
19:50.13CIA-47tekdebug: 03Tekkub 07master * r94e14c9 10/ (LibStub.lua tekDebug.toc): Forgot LibStub - http://is.gd/1RkV
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19:50.56Zhourecently get bothered by the "Combat fade" feature of Pitbull. In battleground, while some one leave the party, Pitbull have chance to show an error message repeatly
19:51.05Adirellethe header is a idea from a friend that plays a warlock
19:51.26Adirellehe said there is no way to follow the timers with the name inside them
19:52.12HjalteAdirelle: I've always liked to have headers, and having it show health too is a nice extra. I used to play a warlock as well, right now I'm using it for a druid though.
19:53.37Funkeh`I've become a tf2 adict
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19:57.03HjalteI've never been good with first person shooters. I can't shoot anyone.
19:57.31StanzillaZhou: can you pastey that error message or make a jira (jira.wowace.com/browse/pb) ticket for it?
19:57.31EllipsisI am intrigued by this vague mention of something called Yatba
19:57.39EllipsisEllipsis needs moar information
19:58.12XuerianFunkeh`: TF2 is fun, for about a hour
19:58.28XuerianA few more hours if you manage to get in a server where spys aren't overplayed (or aren't locked out)
19:58.59HjalteEllipsis: It's for when your screen goes "dot dot dot dot dot dot".
19:59.10Ellipsisso, like, always? :P
19:59.37kappabuntuservers lock out spy?
19:59.41kappabuntuwhy they gotta hate
19:59.46kappabuntui have 75+ hours on my spy
20:00.07AdirelleEllipsis: it is a guid-based timer bar addon
20:00.18Ellipsissame reason to lock out awps, noobs think it's an instant win button
20:00.33kappabuntuso spies are noob friendly now?
20:00.34XuerianWell, I'd liken sniper lockouts to awp lockouts
20:00.40kappabuntu:(
20:00.40EllipsisAdirelle: interesting, wotlk compatible? and where can I find it?
20:00.59AdirelleEllipsis: untested on wotlk, it is in the svn
20:01.14ZhouStanzilla:the error is that when some one leave the party, he "leave combat" as in a battleground. Sometime Pibull view this as leave "Leave combat" and try to fade the unit fram of that person. But that one is no longer in the party...so Pitbull get an error with the "CombatFade".
20:01.18AdirelleI guess I'll have to rewrite the aura related code for wotlk
20:01.23XuerianUgh, heatsink looks ugly
20:01.28Ellipsisah, will probably need updating for aura refreshes
20:01.29Xuerianwtb "Hide Text" option
20:02.23Adirelleactually it keeps an quite up-to-date GUID-to-UnitId map, it use it to handle events like UNIT_AURA
20:02.44Adirellebut if there is some kind of refresh event in the combat log, it would simplify the process
20:03.01Adirelle-is +was
20:03.37Ellipsiswell, there's supposed to be
20:03.51Ellipsislast I heard it wasn't working quite as expected, but it will probably work by the time it's out of beta
20:06.07Adirelleanyway, Yatba seems to work surprisingly well, now I just hesitate to add some visual options (like settings mob header color based on health, or disabling the health tracking), a blacklist and maybe some announcing stuff
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20:13.43Adirellewhat's the differences between Fortress or StatBlockCore ?
20:14.43Stanzillaoptions and display
20:15.23Adirelle^^
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20:19.30ulicShefki: I don't see the option to display combo points as text anymore, do you know if that was removed?
20:20.05Ellipsisulic: you can always do it with a custom tag
20:20.40ulicI thought used to be in there always, but then after some upgrade this week it's gone.
20:20.42CIA-47037destiny * r80859 10PitBull/HideBlizzard/HideBlizzard.lua:
20:20.42CIA-47PitBull
20:20.42CIA-47- koKR Update
20:21.05Ellipsiser, you mean you had a tag for it and it disappeared?
20:21.24Ellipsisor the option to enable a default tag with combo points disappeared?
20:22.04ulicwell first I thought it was an option, but now I see a tag for it that maybe stopped working.  I'll explore further.
20:22.24Ellipsisupdate again, it's probably just the effects of the bug Shefki just fixed
20:23.50ShefkiWhat Ellipsis said.
20:24.38ulicah, cool
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20:28.19Gnarfozag`: I'll try soon, thanks for looking into it. so it wasn't some general LSM-3.0 error?
20:29.06Gnarfozhm, nah, fish tells me you just made it not use LSM ;D
20:33.02steevanyone here use dogtag?
20:33.04steever
20:33.06steevcowtip
20:33.29Ellipsisyup?
20:33.44steevever get it to just suddenly totally error out
20:33.52Ellipsis"error out"?
20:33.55steevand you can't click on much in game anymore
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20:35.09steevhttp://dev.gentoo.org/~steev/files/screenshots/WoWScrnShot_082308_091640.jpg
20:35.17steevthats a picture of all my texts with cowtip
20:36.03Ellipsiswhat do you mean by "error out" though? does it actually throw an error, or is it glitching in some way?
20:36.10steevit throws a ton of errors
20:36.16steevbut, i can't screenshot or anything
20:36.27Ellipsisany idea what they said, from memory?
20:36.55steevsadly no, it happened in the middle of running slabs normal, although i had it happen once in pvp
20:37.03steevnever had it happen til i did the targeting line
20:37.08steevnot to say that is the cause
20:37.14Ellipsisdo you happen to know what you were mousing over when it happened? an item, player, ..?
20:37.23steevan npc
20:37.29Ellipsishm
20:37.39steevone of the skeletons that pops up as you're running through a hallway
20:37.45CIA-4703LordFarlander * r80860 10LibLordFarlander-2.0/ (8 files in 8 dirs): (log message trimmed)
20:37.45CIA-47LibLordFarlander-2.0:
20:37.45CIA-47- Added CritterEnchant items
20:37.45CIA-47- MiniPet database renamed Critters, shortcuts added from old names
20:37.45CIA-47- New function GetTOCVersion
20:37.46CIA-47- GetRandomFromList no longer checks for current
20:37.48CIA-47- IsModifierDown moded into UI
20:37.59steevif i get it again, ill try to screenshot the errors
20:38.05steevalthough
20:38.09steevdoesn't bugsack save em
20:38.16Ellipsisyes
20:38.29Ellipsisyou should be able to look at errors from previous sessions if you had it running when that happened
20:38.33steevhrm
20:38.39Ellipsis(as long as you were able to close WoW normally, that is)
20:38.41steevbut only if i've only logged out
20:39.10Pneumatushas anyone got any tokens in their token UI other than badges of justice?
20:39.15Pneumatus(on beta)
20:39.31steevugh - ill have to have it happen again
20:39.49steevis there a way to save bugsack variables or whatever per user rather than overall?
20:40.06Ellipsisnot without changing the code afaik, why?
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20:42.40steevbecause if it were saved per toon, i'd have it still since i hadn't logged that particular toon back in but i've switched between my rogue and shaman a few times since
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20:44.08Ellipsisyou should still have it though
20:44.17Ellipsisunless you've gotten a *ton* of errors since then
20:44.52Polarinahttp://www.wowbash.com/image-4084.html
20:49.04Antiarchttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?quest=11934
20:50.37Fisker-why so Ellipsis Ellipsis?
20:50.49Polarina:P
20:51.03Ellipsisbecause I Fisker-d your mom, Fisker-
20:51.44Pneumatusdid storm peaks get opened up again, or is it still dead?
20:52.37AntiarcWas still dead as of 5 this morning
20:53.14Fisker-want that quest Antiarc
20:53.23Fisker-what's with the extra page in the spellbook though?
20:53.27CIA-47tekjunkseller: 03Tekkub 07master * rffcf992 10/ README.textile : Readme - http://is.gd/1Ro5
20:55.15Adirellenymbia: is there any version of quartz working for the latest beta build ?
20:55.44StanzillaAntiarc: btw, blizz fixed the problem with right clicking on chat tabs when chatter is enabled
20:56.03AntiarcOh, hooray
20:56.03nymbiaAdirelle: not yet
20:56.10AntiarcFisker-: glyphs
20:56.27Adirelleok
20:56.48Fisker-but glyphs are already unlocked? :I
20:58.18StarinniaI bet when its release new characters have to unlock the glyph page, looks like its a lvl 13 quest
20:59.52Fisker-i'll be bringing that guy sum shit in expansion then
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21:03.27Adirellecoldarra is so laggy that my pet fails to follow me
21:04.16Fisker-owend
21:04.19Fisker-owned
21:04.24Adirelle?
21:04.38Fisker-you are owned if your pet fails to follow you
21:04.39Fisker-:o
21:04.55Adirellenot really, as the mobs fail at getting at melee range
21:05.04Adirellebecause of lag
21:05.09Fisker-hax
21:05.24Adirellehax ?
21:05.57CIA-47tekerr: 03Tekkub 07master * r6f1dd6b 10/ : Embed update - http://is.gd/1RoD
21:05.59CIA-47tekerr: 03Tekkub 07master * r904ff4c 10/ : Updating TOC to 30000 - http://is.gd/1RoE
21:06.01CIA-47tekerr: 03Tekkub 07master * r7c64b5f 10/ : Update changelog for 3.0.1.2-Beta - http://is.gd/1RoF
21:06.03CIA-47tekerr: 03Tekkub 07master * rb8f1419 10/ : Weekly build 3.0.1.2-Beta - http://is.gd/1RoG
21:06.05CIA-47tekerr: 03Tekkub 07master * r67e7960 10/ : Merge commit '3.0.1.2-Beta' - http://is.gd/1RoH
21:06.33Fisker-hax
21:08.15Groktarheh, finally found a quest i can't solo on beta
21:08.17Groktartusker > me
21:15.02dodga~fail Groktar
21:15.03purlGroktar, you Fail!
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21:28.43TeichTeichihello
21:28.55TeichTeichisomeone with a mac here?
21:29.13Ellipsisno, we hate macs
21:29.20Fisker-nah
21:29.23Fisker-we just hate the users
21:29.42Kirkburn|afkFisker-, do you do /anything/ other than troll IRC? :P
21:29.52Ellipsishe trolls eu forums too
21:31.00TeichTeichimy wowaceupdater does not show any files anymore...nor the ones installes, neither the ones avalable
21:32.36TeichTeichiinstallationfolder and xml location are still the same ... has anyone an idea why i have this problem
21:33.04Ellipsiswell that depends what updater you're using
21:33.21TeichTeichiwowaceupdater 4 mac
21:33.27EllipsisWAU is windows-only
21:33.32TeichTeichii worked all the time
21:33.33Ellipsiswhat is the name of your updater
21:34.00TeichTeichihttp://www.lsmason.com/software/wowaceupdater/
21:34.04TeichTeichithis one
21:34.23TeichTeichireinstalling did not help
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21:37.17Ellipsishuh, never heard of it, must be a port
21:37.54TeichTeichirouter problem?
21:38.44Ellipsisyou'll have to see if there's a thread on wowace for it, otherwise you could email the author or something to report the issue
21:39.08TeichTeichikk
21:39.17Ellipsishow long have you been having this problem?
21:39.30TeichTeichijust a few days ago
21:39.33CIA-47makerocketgonow: 03Tekkub 07master * rffb6a5f 10/ : Embed update - http://is.gd/1Rql
21:39.36CIA-47makerocketgonow: 03Tekkub 07master * r13ddf71 10/ : Update changelog for 3.0.1.4-Beta - http://is.gd/1Rqm
21:39.39CIA-47makerocketgonow: 03Tekkub 07master * rb24e8a2 10/ : Weekly build 3.0.1.4-Beta - http://is.gd/1Rqn
21:39.41CIA-47makerocketgonow: 03Tekkub 07master * rd4ade04 10/ : Merge commit '3.0.1.4-Beta' - http://is.gd/1Rqo
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21:47.32kenlyricmake rocket go now
21:47.34kenlyricteeeheee
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21:49.07steevthat updater actually looks pretty spiffy
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22:02.06kenlyrichas there  been an update to the demise of the svn/wau?
22:02.46Gnarfozno, because it's still alive
22:02.48Gnarfoz;)
22:03.16Gnarfozag`: your update removes LSM calls in those places - does that mean it's just a workaround and LSM is actually broken on beta right now?
22:03.27ag`I'm not done:)
22:03.31ag`and it is still broken
22:03.47Gnarfozso it is broken, then. :X
22:04.07GnarfozI'll try latest build now, I guess the other mods that use it, I'll just have to wait
22:04.22Gnarfozthis is weird somehow... because I'm not getting actual error messages :X
22:04.27Gnarfozhard to pin it down
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22:13.48synteurany buffbars updated for wrath with working timers?
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22:20.48XelopherisSynteur: EBB is updated I believe
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22:34.53CIA-4703ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80861 10ag_UnitFrames/ (10 files in 9 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: real fix now
22:35.35ag`Gnarfoz, try again
22:35.57Gnarfozsynteur: SBB works, too (just needs a fix for canceling buffs)
22:36.13Gnarfozag`: will do. any idea to what's actually causing the problems?
22:37.40synteurgnarf, got a link to either (or both) on the svn?
22:38.32CIA-4703Swix * r80862 10FuBar_LootTypeFu/ (FuBar_LootTypeFu.toc LootTypeFuLocale-ruRU.lua):
22:38.32CIA-47FuBar_LootTypeFu:
22:38.32CIA-47-Added ruRU localization
22:39.11Gnarfozsynteur: sbb is on wowi, ebb is on files.wowace.com
22:39.15CIA-4703Swix * r80863 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/ (FuBar_PerformanceFu.toc locales/PerformanceFuLocale-ruRU.lua):
22:39.15CIA-47FuBar_PerformanceFu:
22:39.15CIA-47-Added ruRU localization
22:39.19Gnarfozhttp://wowinterface.com/downloads/info10285-SimpleBuffBarsWoTLK.html
22:40.50CIA-4703Swix * r80864 10FuBar_RestFu/ (FuBar_RestFu.toc Locales/locales.xml Locales/ruRU.lua):
22:40.51CIA-47FuBar_RestFu:
22:40.51CIA-47-Added ruRU localization
22:42.11CIA-4703Swix * r80865 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (FuBar_TopScoreFu.toc Locales/locales.xml Locales/ruRU.lua):
22:42.11CIA-47FuBar_TopScoreFu:
22:42.12CIA-47-Added ruRU localization
22:42.35CIA-4703Swix * r80866 10FuBar_VanasKoSFu/ (FuBar_VanasKoSFu.toc VanasKoSFu.lua):
22:42.35CIA-47FuBar_VanasKoSFu:
22:42.35CIA-47-Added ruRU localization
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22:47.15Ellipsisthat's a lot of ruRUFu
22:47.18Ellipsisducks
22:50.49Merarussian invasion
22:50.54dodgaYour ruFu is weak, Ellipsis
22:51.04Ellipsisno u...fu
22:51.27dodga:(
22:52.31CIA-4703Swix * r80867 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua:
22:52.31CIA-47FuBarPlugin-2.0:
22:52.31CIA-47-small ruRU fix (Specially for Ellipsis)
22:52.38Ellipsislol
22:53.48Ellipsis<3 swix, wherever you are
22:55.33dodgaHm I see, so that's how it works
22:56.19nymbiayes, yes it is.
22:56.28Ellipsisaww come on, I'm not that easy
22:56.30Ellipsisam I?
22:56.55nymbialol
22:57.08Ellipsis(yeah, probably best you guys don't answer that)
22:57.18nymbiawell if it gets us translations, you better be!
22:57.18dodgaOh it was rhetorical?
22:57.19nymbia<3
22:58.12Ellipsishah, thanks I guess
22:59.26ashbdo the ammount of stats you get per level follow any kind of preticable pattern?
23:00.12Polarinaashb: Yes. It may be pseudo-random or something else.
23:00.36ashbi was just wondering if anyone's measured it or something
23:00.46EllipsisI don't think anyone's found a formula for it
23:01.57ashbi guess it changes between races and classes
23:02.18Ellipsisyeah, though the amount per level might not be race-dependant
23:02.26Ellipsisthe base stats are at least
23:02.35ashbnot that they change by all that much
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23:07.10Ackisjust had a 4 hour "nap"
23:07.34ashbanyone else got a 70 warrior they are logged in as?
23:08.40ashbor any other level of warrior for that matter
23:08.49AckisI have a level 1 warrior
23:09.00ashbk anything but a level 1
23:09.06ashbor 2
23:09.13GnarfozXinhuan: ping
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23:14.02Ackisnymbia: come to tauren mill and kill some lowbies, I want to laugh at their tears in general
23:14.02CIA-4703Mera_LaCroisadeEcarlate 07WotLK * r80868 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: Ace2 - fixe revert because buggy now in build 8820
23:14.23nymbiaAckis: ROFL
23:14.48nymbiaAckis: i would but i'm working :(
23:15.00Starinniayou don't play WoW while working?
23:15.21nymbiawell.. maybe ;)
23:15.33Ackiswtf it's saturday afternoon :P
23:15.41StarinniaI guess its easier for me since I got my boss addicted :P
23:15.46Gnarfozckknight: ping
23:15.51ckknightpong
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23:16.17Gnarfozckknight: is there any way to get more info about these kinds of errors? [01:13:10]Error loading LoadOnDemand plugin FuBar_BagFu
23:16.29GnarfozAckis: please tell, where is tauren mill?
23:17.00Starinniatauren mill is in thunder bluff, its where they make flour.. duh
23:17.13sacaraschehe
23:17.20ckknightGnarfoz: got a bug catching addon, e.g. Swatter/BugSack?
23:17.28Gnarfozckknight: yes, the latter
23:17.48ckknightand did it fire any errors?
23:18.08Gnarfoznope
23:18.52ckknightthen I dunno
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23:20.39Starinniai just noticed my warrior is using a caster trinket in beta, all i saw was +haste
23:20.41Gnarfozmind you, they are indeed loaded
23:20.54Gnarfozworld server down :X
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23:23.50Parnicis anyone familiar with debugging why an addon just straight up doesn't load? wotlk beta 8820 caused my addon to stop loading altogether and i get no error messages and no logs in FrameXML.log or anywhere else. I don't evenk now where to start figuring out what's wrong
23:24.07Gnarfozsounds like trouble I'm having.
23:24.10Nargiddleydoes it use Ace2 ?
23:24.12Parnica user reported that loading bartender4 (an ace3 addon) alongside mine (icehud, an ace2 addon) causes my addon to start working.../befuddled
23:24.13Parnicyes, ace2
23:24.29NargiddleyI think theres a problem with ace2 in the latest build
23:24.34Parnic:(
23:24.34NargiddleyBaggins has the same problem
23:24.38Nargiddleytry this
23:24.45Gnarfozmy addons in question use rock, I think
23:24.46ashbParnic: i often get that with a problem in my OnInit
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23:24.59Parniccrap. i'm using the wotlk beta version of the ace2 addons, but they haven't been updated for ~3 weeks
23:25.06Nargiddley/script AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):InitializeAddon(AddonObject, "AddonName")
23:25.15Gnarfozsome frenchie just updated ace2 wotlk branch with something ;p
23:25.17Parnicalright i'll give that a shot
23:25.23Parnicheh
23:28.27Parnicok, AceAddon line 565..."addon" is nil
23:28.33Parnicstarts hunting
23:28.56Nargiddleyfirst param was nil then
23:28.57Parnicthat is in function AceAddon:InitializeAddon(addon, name). hmm.
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23:29.32Nargiddleyfor baggins I use (Baggins, "Baggins"), since Baggins is my global addon object
23:29.58Parnicoh heh
23:30.00Parnicyeah, that caused it to load
23:30.06Gnarfozso Mera_LacroisadeEcarlate's (WTF) fix is to undo the fix? ;X
23:30.08Parnicswitching to IceHUD, "IceHUD"
23:30.36Parnicok nar, so that means it's a prob with ace2's init sequence?
23:30.43Nargiddleyyeah
23:31.45Gnarfozthe "fix" was more of a hack from what I understood, and yes, it had something to do with the init sequence
23:32.44Nargiddleyyeah its an ugly hack, and will probably break things horribly when Ace2 gets fixed
23:32.59Gnarfozwhen or if that ever happens ;)
23:33.15Gnarfozbut, as he/she commented out the "fix" and it now works in 8820
23:33.20Gnarfozit probably won't need fixing
23:33.32Parnicthe weirdest part is that apparently loading an ace3 wotlk addon alongside mine causes mine to work
23:33.37Parnici can't really figure that out since we don't share any libs
23:33.59NargiddleyI bet its ADDON_LOADED acting differently
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23:34.17Nargiddleyhaving other addons there to fire it more often could act as a fix of sorts
23:34.22ParnicGnarfoz: where was this "fix"/hack checked in?
23:34.30GnarfozParnic: WotLK branch of Ace2
23:34.32Parnicmainline or the wotlk beta branch?
23:34.34Parnichmm
23:34.38Parnici'm not seeing it in fisheye
23:34.54Gnarfozdo you mean the latest one from minutes ago?
23:34.56NargiddleyI get the same behaviour in both trunk and the branch
23:35.06Nargiddleyand haven't tried that latest one
23:35.10Parnicwhichever one you're saying fixes 8820, i can't find it :P
23:35.18GnarfozParnic: fish is *really* slow.
23:35.26Gnarfozhttp://groups.google.com/group/wowace/browse_thread/thread/fa9e3297246bcba2 is the commit
23:35.39Parnicgotcha. thanks :)
23:35.39Gnarfozhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Ace2/WotLK/ is the branch URL
23:37.26Ackispoops on Gnarfoz
23:37.37Gnarfozyummy
23:37.44Ellipsiswatches
23:37.55Ackiswoah
23:37.59sedai|put it in a bun
23:38.06Parniclooks like that un-hack does fix things :). thanks for the help, guys
23:38.09Gnarfozput it in a box
23:38.22Gnarfozdick in a box
23:38.22Gnarfoz:p
23:38.35Ackisdick in your butt what?
23:38.47Gnarfozdickbutt.
23:39.02Ackisso Ellipsis I hear you're easy :P lol
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23:40.09GnarfozAckis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhwbxEfy7fg
23:40.55Ackiswow
23:42.07Ackisis there a way to save a WWS locally?
23:42.37Gnarfozuhm save the webpage?
23:43.17LaakHey guys, I got a question about moving frames. When I call Frame:StopMovingOrSizing() it sets the anchor frame to nil and anchor points to whatever closes to that position relative to UIParent. Is there any other way to move frames with mouse or do I have to save all the anchors and so before starting to move and then recalculate offsets after?
23:43.58ag`Gnarfoz, I just did some changes to how textures were loaded.. I think it works now.
23:44.36Gnarfozag`: yeah, it seems to work. the ace2 fix that just got checked in fixed the other addons that started erroring with 8820. still weird though.
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23:46.30Gnarfozag`: dunno if that's a ace3 issue or not, but in 8820, there's a "Set Focus" option in a unit's context menu. clicking that gives me the "ace3 has been blocked from... [blah blah]" error
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23:50.28CIA-4703Swix * r80869 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (FuBar_GroupFu.toc GroupFuLocal-ruRU.lua):
23:50.28CIA-47FuBar_GroupFu:
23:50.28CIA-47-Added ruRU localization (by Star_Hobbit)
23:50.49sedai|i need tinytooptip for wotlk
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23:56.26Polarinasedai|: /run GameTooltip:SetScale(GameTooltip:GetScale() / 2)
23:56.35GnarfozPolarina: haha. ;D
23:56.50Polarinasedai|: That should make it tiny.
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23:57.04Gnarfozsedai|: check http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=110
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