| 00:00.07 | dodga | For the stuff on the WotLK branch.. I guess most stuff there is a work in progress |
| 00:00.07 | Stanzilla | if the branch name has "WotLK" in it...it probably is :P |
| 00:00.55 | dodga | Stanzilla: You never know until you dry... and fail :> |
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| 00:10.38 | ashb | bah - all i want from my bar addon is to be able to store different action sets in different profiles |
| 00:10.45 | ashb | why do none of them seem to do it |
| 00:14.18 | dodga | AFAIK there are several addons that store the actions in profiles if the bar addon uses action ids |
| 00:14.33 | ashb | mmm? |
| 00:14.48 | ashb | meaning? |
| 00:15.00 | Ellipsis | meaning no action bar addons do what you want because action IDs are stored server side |
| 00:15.13 | ashb | they are? |
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| 00:15.15 | Ellipsis | so it's not an integral part of an action bar addon to save what spells are where |
| 00:15.17 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 00:15.27 | dodga | I think ActionBarSaver it was called |
| 00:15.31 | dodga | Never tried it though |
| 00:15.33 | Ellipsis | there are addons specifically designed to save/swap action ID sets |
| 00:15.46 | Ellipsis | which you'll have to use in combination with your preferred action bar addon |
| 00:16.01 | Mytos | if i was to just string a bunch of /casts in a macro, does it still get frozen when ones on cooldown or i dont have rage like they used to? |
| 00:16.04 | dodga | Uhm, yeah. What she said. |
| 00:16.20 | Mytos | for instance |
| 00:17.22 | Mytos | ./cast bloodrage /cast whirlwind /cast bloodthirst |
| 00:17.36 | Ellipsis | with a macro like that, it will attempt to cast all three at once |
| 00:17.56 | Ellipsis | if one of them successfully goes off and triggers the global cooldown it will prevent others from casting because you're in GCD |
| 00:18.03 | Mytos | well im just trying something for a lazy spamable macro for grinding |
| 00:18.10 | Ellipsis | you want /castsequence |
| 00:18.28 | Mytos | but wouldnt that get frozen if ones on cooldown? |
| 00:18.37 | Ellipsis | er, yes |
| 00:18.40 | Ellipsis | isn't that the idea? |
| 00:18.53 | Ellipsis | or you just want to cast whichever one is up |
| 00:18.58 | Ellipsis | with a priority list? |
| 00:19.12 | Mytos | whichever is up, with a priority |
| 00:19.27 | Ellipsis | oh, then yours should work |
| 00:19.29 | Mytos | basically if i use castrandom and it decides to pick one thats on cooldown it gets stuck |
| 00:19.43 | Ellipsis | don't use castrandom or castsequence |
| 00:19.51 | Ellipsis | just use multiple /cast lines in the order of highest to lowest priority |
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| 00:21.47 | Mytos | if i put a line with /cast reset=25 rampage would that cause the rest of it to get the 25second reset? |
| 00:22.39 | Ellipsis | no |
| 00:22.43 | Ellipsis | reset is only for castsequence |
| 00:22.51 | Ellipsis | you don't need reset if you're using multiple /cast lines |
| 00:23.50 | Mytos | yea, but rampage has a 30 sec duration, and i dont wanna waste alot of rage casting it when i dont need to |
| 00:24.14 | Ellipsis | well if it doesn't have a cooldown there's no way to prevent it from being cast except to castsequence it with another ability |
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| 00:26.01 | Mytos | if i stick /castsequence reset=25 rampage, battleshout would that stop it from casting any lines after because of the reset? |
| 00:26.13 | Ellipsis | it shouldn't |
| 00:26.15 | thul | anyone else get wowhead talent calc up? |
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| 00:26.38 | Ellipsis | it will just cast rampage the first time, and battleshout every time after that for 25 seconds |
| 00:26.47 | Ellipsis | if battleshout is on cooldown it will go to the next line |
| 00:29.48 | fewyn | Mace Specialization (Arms) no longer stuns enemies, and now generates 10 rage. |
| 00:29.51 | fewyn | YAY |
| 00:30.52 | Mytos | good, they need to nerf rogue macespec now then |
| 00:31.03 | fewyn | Mace Specialization (Combat) no longer stuns enemies, and instead increases critical damage bonus by 2/4/6/8/10%. |
| 00:31.05 | fewyn | they did! |
| 00:31.20 | Mytos | its not even arms mace spec thats the pain, its duelweilding maces rogues that suck monkey nuts imo |
| 00:36.06 | Mytos | i still think critcal damage bonus by 10% is alot |
| 00:36.10 | ashb | Ellipsis: you mean http://code.google.com/p/shadowed-wow/source/browse/trunk/ActionBarSaver then? (toc is strangely out of date given recent commits) |
| 00:36.33 | Ellipsis | I have heard of a few different ones, afaik they all have fairly similar functionality |
| 00:36.46 | Ellipsis | I personally don't use action IDs so I haven't tried any of them |
| 00:36.52 | Ellipsis | otherwise I'd make a recommendation |
| 00:37.06 | ashb | what is an action id and/or what is not an action id? |
| 00:37.16 | Ellipsis | standard action bar addons all use action IDs |
| 00:37.29 | Shadowed | I never update tocs |
| 00:37.32 | Shadowed | because I'm horribly lazy |
| 00:37.37 | Ellipsis | if you use default, or bartender, or bongos, ...etc. you are using action IDs |
| 00:37.59 | Shadowed | And theres only like 3 profile saving ones |
| 00:38.05 | Shadowed | as far as I know, the other two aren't as accurate as ABS |
| 00:38.19 | ashb | so any addon that uses the default blizzard action bars? |
| 00:38.27 | Ellipsis | basically, yes |
| 00:38.49 | Ellipsis | if you install the addon and it already has stuff on the buttons that seem to be carried over from your default bars, then it uses action IDs |
| 00:38.57 | Ellipsis | most normal people use action IDs :P |
| 00:39.02 | ashb | cos i thought bongos3 didn't use them.. |
| 00:39.08 | Ellipsis | it does |
| 00:39.19 | Shadowed | 99% of the bar addons are going to use actionIDs |
| 00:39.20 | ashb | it just creates more as needed? |
| 00:39.59 | Shadowed | because setting up something to use >120 is a pain |
| 00:40.00 | Ellipsis | no, there are 120 action IDs available |
| 00:40.00 | Ellipsis | bongos will only go up to 120 buttons |
| 00:40.13 | Zhinjio | new baby pix: http://babyblog.trippy.org/?page_id=4&g2_itemId=78 |
| 00:40.18 | Ellipsis | <3 Zhinjio |
| 00:40.18 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 00:40.22 | Ellipsis | runs off to look |
| 00:40.25 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 00:40.33 | Zhinjio | everything after the first three are new |
| 00:41.21 | fewyn | yawn |
| 00:41.25 | Ellipsis | aww, she's adorable |
| 00:41.32 | Zhinjio | beams. |
| 00:41.34 | fewyn | without beta i'm terribly bored |
| 00:41.35 | Zynderps | cheerleader.jpg , grapehead.jpg, nohands.jpg , already coming up with nicknames that'll haunt her forever eh!? :E |
| 00:41.59 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 00:42.03 | Zyndrome | and beta-servers are down for new build :C |
| 00:42.10 | fewyn | i know :( |
| 00:42.12 | Zhinjio | I just threw names down quick so they'd be unique |
| 00:43.02 | dodga | ashb: Yeah I had that in mind, IIRC there are some others. Never tried any though |
| 00:44.03 | dodga | I think I made ckk explode :o |
| 00:44.25 | Mytos | zhin, your kids so lucky |
| 00:44.45 | Mytos | she looks like her mom, she could have looked like you |
| 00:44.47 | Mytos | LOL |
| 00:44.53 | Ellipsis | ouch |
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| 00:45.18 | Neo|Other | Mytos: nothing like a bearded baby? |
| 00:46.34 | Mytos | so anyone heard the new metallica single? |
| 00:49.19 | ashb | so what is the alternative to action IDs btw? |
| 00:49.26 | ashb | just a curiosity mater now |
| 00:49.31 | Zhinjio | heh, well, she's a girl. I would hope she's look more like her mom |
| 00:50.58 | Ellipsis | ashb: personally, I bind keys directly to spells/macros instead of putting them on action bars |
| 00:51.01 | Ellipsis | saves screen space |
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| 00:51.18 | ashb | i didn't realise that is possible |
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| 00:51.36 | ashb | cos i've got about half a bar of hidden things just for binding keys to |
| 00:51.43 | Diao | binding keys to macros sucks |
| 00:51.45 | Ellipsis | sure, there's an addon on wowace called spellbinder which does it |
| 00:51.50 | Diao | because you can't use modifiers with it |
| 00:52.05 | Diao | spells is nice though |
| 00:52.51 | Ellipsis | yes you can |
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| 00:53.21 | Ellipsis | if you use [mod:shift] in a macro and bind, say, G to that macro, then G and shift-G work as expected |
| 00:53.32 | Ellipsis | unless you override it by binding something different to shift-G |
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| 00:53.50 | dodga | BindPad is nice |
| 00:54.43 | Diao | err |
| 00:54.47 | Diao | not for me Ellipsis |
| 00:55.36 | Diao | i have a macro for reacquire target while stealth, blind if holding control and unstealthed, shiv if not holding ctrl and unstealthed, otherwise |
| 00:55.44 | Diao | but if i hold ctrl |
| 00:55.45 | Diao | it does nothing |
| 00:55.49 | Diao | if i bind directly to ` |
| 00:55.50 | Diao | and there is nothing bound to ctrl-` |
| 00:55.56 | Diao | but if i put it on a bar |
| 00:55.57 | Diao | it works fine |
| 00:57.06 | Diao | and i used spellbinder to bind it |
| 00:57.12 | Diao | tested multiple times with different spells too |
| 00:57.14 | Diao | and it never worked |
| 00:57.17 | Diao | until i put it onto a bar |
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| 01:06.23 | Zyndrome | http://grail.cs.washington.edu/projects/videoenhancement/videoEnhancement.htm |
| 01:06.26 | Zyndrome | that's awesome :o |
| 01:06.59 | Ellipsis | Diao: dunno what to say, I'm currently using it for my mount macro (shift to use ground mount while in a flyable area) and it works fine, bound to either a key or a mouse button |
| 01:07.05 | Xelopheris | www.daysbehind.com, Zyndrome |
| 01:07.06 | RaydenUni | what sort of drop % on the Wildfury Greatstaff? |
| 01:07.16 | Xelopheris | RaydenUni: depends if any ferals are in raid or not |
| 01:07.20 | NivFreak | haha |
| 01:07.21 | Zyndrome | my flying Delorean broke down |
| 01:07.22 | Diao | it might be because of all the conditionals i have though |
| 01:07.28 | NivFreak | 100% if there are no ferals in raid |
| 01:07.29 | RaydenUni | apparently EVERY druid got one last run |
| 01:07.30 | RaydenUni | :( |
| 01:07.35 | RaydenUni | so all the boomkins have one |
| 01:07.36 | Ellipsis | Diao: that, or maybe you have something bound to ctrl-` and just don't realize it? |
| 01:07.40 | Diao | nope, i don't |
| 01:07.45 | Ellipsis | shrugs |
| 01:07.49 | RaydenUni | which means 0 will drop for me i'm guessing |
| 01:07.51 | Diao | i even checked my bindings-cache.wtf |
| 01:07.52 | Diao | to make sure |
| 01:07.54 | Diao | and there is nothing bound to it |
| 01:08.08 | Ellipsis | dunno then |
| 01:08.09 | Xelopheris | Rayden, I was using clefthoof chest and earthwarden until 19th illidank ill |
| 01:08.19 | NivFreak | ouch |
| 01:08.26 | NivFreak | vanq drops constantly for us |
| 01:08.34 | RaydenUni | i just got my Tameless Breeches |
| 01:08.52 | NivFreak | and we have like 6 people on that token |
| 01:08.54 | Xelopheris | I was just really low on dkp by the time we got to illidan :P |
| 01:08.55 | NivFreak | only two druids |
| 01:08.57 | dodga | Zyndrome: funky :o |
| 01:09.02 | Xelopheris | Have 38 different Thunderheart pieces now |
| 01:09.10 | Diao | 38... |
| 01:09.25 | Xelopheris | 8 moonkin, 16 feral, 12 resto |
| 01:09.36 | NivFreak | hah |
| 01:09.41 | Diao | uhh |
| 01:09.44 | Diao | do you gem them differently or something |
| 01:09.57 | Diao | can't really understand why you'd have 12 resto pieces :p |
| 01:10.03 | Diao | 16 feral i can understand for tank and dps kinda.. |
| 01:10.13 | Xelopheris | resto is for pure +heal vs +heal/spirit |
| 01:10.25 | Diao | ah |
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| 01:10.55 | Xelopheris | Any Kj experts in room? |
| 01:11.43 | dodga | Reduce his HP to 0 before you wipe. scnr:D |
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| 01:14.15 | Obelixprime | where can i download the latest beta patch? |
| 01:15.40 | Xelopheris | not available yet afaik |
| 01:15.56 | Xelopheris | background downloader doesn't connect yet |
| 01:16.30 | dodga | WTF.. "Glyph of Improved Scorch - The Improved Scorch talent now generates 5 applications of the Improved Scorch effect each time Scorch is cast." teh imbaness.. WTB for Shadow Weaving! |
| 01:16.53 | dodga | zomg the mage glyphs are awesome |
| 01:17.21 | Ellipsis | whoa, 4srsly? |
| 01:17.21 | Ellipsis | that's hax |
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| 01:18.17 | dodga | yeah there are even better ones |
| 01:18.26 | dodga | Glyph of Remove Curse - Your Remove Curse spell also makes the target immune to all Curses for 6 sec. ... mkay?! |
| 01:18.34 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 01:18.55 | dodga | okay maybe that's not sooo impressive |
| 01:19.08 | Ellipsis | well, it's situational, but still ridiculously OP in those situations |
| 01:19.13 | dodga | but +2% crit damage or +20% mana regen |
| 01:19.22 | dodga | or +5 yards on ice lance |
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| 01:20.23 | dodga | let me check what Priests get.. -10% mana cost on SW:P.. a spell that any priest that actually uses doesn't need to reapply due to shadow talents... |
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| 01:21.05 | dodga | I wonder, are glyphs unique? If not, as a mage I'd stack that +2% crit thingie |
| 01:21.35 | Diao | i'm guessing you aren't allowed to apply multiple glyphs to the same spell |
| 01:22.09 | dodga | Yeah probably. Otherwise they'd be called "money sink" and not glyphs :> |
| 01:22.25 | dodga | "Yeah we're doing encounter XY now. Everybody re-glyph, kk" |
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| 01:34.03 | Killmore | 667mb for the new beta update :( |
| 01:34.24 | Ellipsis | bet it has the cinematic |
| 01:34.41 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 01:34.45 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 01:37.11 | RaydenUni | nothing but Shurikens are dropping in SSC |
| 01:37.14 | RaydenUni | 3 or 4 so far |
| 01:37.18 | RaydenUni | and no druid staves :( |
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| 01:40.51 | Zyndrome | get badges for http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34898 ? :S |
| 01:41.19 | Xelopheris | That's a dps staff |
| 01:41.26 | Xelopheris | not very tanking friendly |
| 01:41.37 | RaydenUni | just spent 100badges on pants |
| 01:41.44 | Zyndrome | bleh |
| 01:44.07 | RaydenUni | so i have 1 badge now |
| 01:45.47 | Groktar | blizzard downloader + healing muru = win |
| 01:46.10 | Obelixprime | i wish i could have the beta and the tbc client both open at the same time |
| 01:46.13 | Obelixprime | but it rapes my computer |
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| 01:55.11 | CIA-47 | FBagOfHolding: |
| 01:55.11 | CIA-47 | - Added fix to prevent error when a nil item key is used for some reason. |
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| 02:00.56 | Xelopheris | Is it possible to DL a blizzard patch using a normal torrent client? |
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| 02:01.38 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 02:04.19 | Xelopheris | ellaborate? |
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| 02:04.55 | Ellipsis | just extract the .torrent and use your favorite client? |
| 02:06.00 | Ellipsis | moar info: http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors#Torrents |
| 02:06.44 | Stanzilla | http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Patches/Beta/PC/ has some stuff, too |
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| 02:22.25 | Chompers | what the, warrior changes are interesting |
| 02:22.51 | Chompers | Rampage (Tier 9) completely changed: Your melee critical hits cause you to go on a rampage, increasing melee critical hit chance of all party and raid members within 20 yds by 5%. Lasts 10 sec. |
| 02:25.59 | Zyndrome | oh poopers |
| 02:26.06 | Zyndrome | levelcap raised |
| 02:26.13 | Zyndrome | my 71 DK has a long way to go |
| 02:27.23 | Zyndrome | "Also, we sped up the leveling curve from 70-80. We're still dialing in the leveling speed so feedback is appreciated. " |
| 02:27.25 | Zyndrome | ooooooooh |
| 02:31.10 | NivFreak | Zyndrome: level cap is 80 now? =x |
| 02:31.23 | Zyndrome | yeah |
| 02:31.29 | NivFreak | crap |
| 02:31.36 | NivFreak | do they actually think this is ready for realse? |
| 02:31.38 | NivFreak | release |
| 02:32.08 | Zyndrome | it's now that the real balancing begins D: |
| 02:32.36 | NivFreak | Chompers: thank god, rampage sucked :) |
| 02:36.00 | digmouse | do they call this "hunter big push"??!! |
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| 02:42.31 | Chompers | it sure did NivFreak |
| 02:42.48 | Zyndrome | ok, Coldarra up ... but why is there a green mist around my DK :| |
| 02:43.36 | Chompers | however, blood frenzy does less damage so arms isnt looking too good right now |
| 02:43.54 | Trell- | "Also, we sped up the leveling curve from 70-80. We're still dialing in the leveling speed so feedback is appreciated. " get in. |
| 02:44.03 | Zyndrome | thank goodness |
| 02:44.08 | Zyndrome | Blood Aura doesn't untalent itself |
| 02:45.11 | Zyndrome | Blood Rune Mastery is gone |
| 02:45.15 | Zyndrome | D: |
| 02:45.36 | Zyndrome | or I mean .. uuh |
| 02:45.42 | NivFreak | I wonder if that means I'll be lvl 71 when I log in |
| 02:45.44 | Zyndrome | *finds the name* |
| 02:45.58 | Zyndrome | yeah blood rune |
| 02:46.48 | kappaccino | come over here ! |
| 02:46.56 | Trell- | in your dreams NivFreak |
| 02:47.06 | Trell- | I doubt they'd implement reverse levelling |
| 02:47.09 | Trell- | or w/e you'd call it |
| 02:47.29 | Trell- | ie; you've earnt 2 million xp, and we changed each level to be 1 million xp, so you've gained a free level! |
| 02:47.35 | Trell- | if that makes sense >_< |
| 02:48.03 | Zyndrome | oh what the |
| 02:48.07 | Zyndrome | Blood Worms nerfed again |
| 02:48.17 | Zyndrome | 9% chance @ 3/3 |
| 02:48.23 | Trell- | ... |
| 02:50.46 | Zyndrome | http://www.shatteredminds.net/wotlk_beta/8820-worms.jpg |
| 02:50.55 | Zyndrome | can't get that green shit off me |
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| 02:54.25 | Ellipsis | is it just me or are the sounds on the login screen not synced with the dragon's actual landing/etc.? |
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| 02:56.53 | CIA-47 | 03Ghostar * r80782 10Parrot/Locales/ (ParrotLocale-zhCN.lua ParrotLocale-zhTW.lua): |
| 02:56.53 | CIA-47 | Parrot: |
| 02:56.53 | CIA-47 | - fixed zhCN/zhTW typo. |
| 02:57.48 | Zyndrome | Heart Strike got new icon, meh |
| 02:59.21 | digmouse | how much the exp of 70-80 goes down? |
| 03:01.40 | Stanzilla | +OPTION_TOOLTIP_ENABLE_DSP_EFFECTS = "Enables special voice modulation effects for Death Knights."; < lol |
| 03:02.58 | Trell- | fury warriors having MS on their normal attacks ftw. |
| 03:05.39 | Zhinjio | anyone have an extra beta key I can give my wife? she's now gonna be home with the baby for 10 weeks and is going to drive herself (and possibly me) crazy |
| 03:07.13 | Zyndrome | great, all DKs have a green mist on them :| |
| 03:08.34 | Ellipsis | Zhinjio: if I ever get an opt-in I'll send it your way |
| 03:08.48 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 03:10.31 | Ellipsis | btw the warlock talent eradication is stuck visible on people who have it, just like the "green glow" is on death knights with bloodworms |
| 03:10.53 | Ellipsis | runs around with a glowing purple bat over her head |
| 03:11.53 | RaydenUni | how often does the Wildfury staff drop? |
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| 03:16.18 | kappaccino | who drops that? |
| 03:16.24 | kappaccino | is that one from hyjal? |
| 03:16.54 | Stanzilla | sounds like the ssc random thingy? |
| 03:17.26 | Diao | random trash |
| 03:17.27 | Diao | in ssc |
| 03:19.23 | digmouse | SSC trash |
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| 03:25.39 | Stanzilla | yay, /console extShadowQuality 4 => 10fps :P |
| 03:25.59 | Zyndrome | oh its fixed |
| 03:26.16 | Zyndrome | my game froze completely occassionally with that :C |
| 03:27.22 | Stanzilla | imo "1" looks best atm |
| 03:29.14 | Zyndrome | my FPS remains unchanged :p |
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| 03:37.52 | Groktar | i am so exited about fury warriors now |
| 03:38.25 | Groktar | Rampage (Tier 9) completely changed: Your melee critical hits cause you to go on a rampage, increasing melee critical hit chance of all party and raid members within 20 yds by 5%. Lasts 10 sec., titan's grip is 1 point no haste penalty, and ms |
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| 03:40.59 | mjc | any addons for WotLK beta that are a must try? |
| 03:44.31 | mjc | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10314-JebusMailforWotLK.html LOL |
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| 03:46.18 | NivFreak | lol |
| 03:46.21 | NivFreak | we got MS in the fury tree |
| 03:46.26 | NivFreak | blizzard is so win |
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| 03:50.56 | NivFreak | Furious Attacks - Your normal melee attacks have a 100% chance to reduce all healing done to the target by 25% for 8 sec. This can stack up to 2 times. |
| 03:51.41 | mjc | heh |
| 03:53.09 | NivFreak | wtf do we want arms for again? |
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| 03:57.15 | vithos | bigwigs people around? we just had a KJ pull where nobody got the range window and the orb timer was missing |
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| 04:00.41 | Zyndrome | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/august/8820_engineering.jpg |
| 04:00.41 | Zyndrome | haha |
| 04:00.45 | Zyndrome | "MOLL-E" |
| 04:03.49 | Shardless | I'm wondering if anybody can help me I am trying to build my first AddOn and having issues with errors (I think my syntax is off but i'm not sure) |
| 04:04.14 | Ellipsis | sure, pastey you're code |
| 04:04.17 | Ellipsis | eesh, your* |
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| 04:20.01 | RaydenUni | boo |
| 04:20.04 | RaydenUni | didn't kill leothelas |
| 04:20.10 | RaydenUni | leotheras |
| 04:21.01 | Zyndrome | just go BT , you can do up to Akama blindfolded :< |
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| 04:21.26 | chaud | is there a working addon that allows for multiple tooltips in beta? |
| 04:21.46 | Ellipsis | ~pil |
| 04:21.47 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 04:22.14 | RaydenUni | yeah SSC sucks in terms of trash |
| 04:22.42 | Zyndrome | thing is I never experienced SSC or TK |
| 04:22.46 | Zyndrome | went from Kara to BT :P |
| 04:22.59 | Zyndrome | and now Shitwell Pisstaeu |
| 04:23.03 | RaydenUni | apparently last week they had 3-4 Wildfury drop last week |
| 04:23.05 | RaydenUni | 0 this week :( |
| 04:23.07 | Keias | I envy you |
| 04:23.17 | Keias | I really despise SSC/TK :( |
| 04:23.17 | RaydenUni | 3 of the thrown daggers dropped |
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| 05:51.37 | steev | wow, that sucked |
| 05:51.47 | steev | shadowstepped to nightbane in air phase |
| 05:52.50 | Xuerian | gg XD |
| 05:54.13 | Diao | did you fall off :o |
| 05:58.57 | Xuerian | Aww wtf, a 1 day cooldown on portable mailboxes? |
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| 05:59.22 | Xuerian | bs -_-; |
| 05:59.38 | Xuerian | X-ray scopes are awesome though |
| 06:00.08 | digmouse | bartender4 wotlk branch broke on 8820 |
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| 06:07.23 | CIA-47 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80783 10Prat/ (addon/modules.lua modules/Substitutions.lua): |
| 06:07.23 | CIA-47 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 06:07.23 | CIA-47 | Slim down substitutions module a bit. |
| 06:07.32 | steev | Diao: yes, you fall off |
| 06:07.53 | steev | doesn't kick you out though... you just get stuck throwing a daggerr at him during air phase |
| 06:07.59 | steev | and the fear not hitting you |
| 06:09.34 | Diao | ah |
| 06:12.18 | mjc | what are the dev guilds on beta |
| 06:17.09 | digmouse | US PVE alliance is Secure Templar |
| 06:17.21 | digmouse | horde is WTB API PST |
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| 06:28.19 | CIA-47 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80784 10Prat/modules/Substitutions.lua: |
| 06:28.19 | CIA-47 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 06:28.19 | CIA-47 | Removal of commented sections, and fixup of paste-in. Will figure out how to |
| 06:28.19 | CIA-47 | add the removed stuff back in later. |
| 06:31.53 | sylvanaar | the beta servers arent up though are they? |
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| 06:33.26 | jaxdahl | they were up |
| 06:33.29 | jaxdahl | they are down now |
| 06:33.47 | jaxdahl | oh hey, new sigil in the upper left: http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/august/lkarena_weapons.jpg |
| 06:34.07 | Arrowmaster | steev: it gets worse than that actually |
| 06:34.58 | Arrowmaster | friend accidently did that and nightbane came after him after he landed, and then teleported half of the raid down there |
| 06:35.34 | Diao | what exactly is "LK Arena" |
| 06:36.09 | nevcairiel | the blue arena set from reputation vendors |
| 06:36.18 | nevcairiel | my guess =P |
| 06:36.22 | nevcairiel | (or other vendors) |
| 06:36.32 | Diao | hm |
| 06:36.36 | Diao | but i saw "lk arena" purples |
| 06:36.40 | Diao | for the offset pieces on mmo-c |
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| 06:46.33 | sylvanaar | i cannot live without swapmagic |
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| 06:56.28 | dodga | mmo champ being hammered? :o |
| 06:57.08 | Gary13579 | more like Bibi` getting hammered... damn drunks. |
| 06:57.45 | Bibi` | dodga : nop, why ? |
| 06:58.00 | dodga | Firefox times out when opening it :( |
| 06:58.06 | dodga | uh now it works |
| 06:58.13 | dodga | yaaaay patch notes :o |
| 06:59.44 | dodga | wow.. underwhelming for priests.. once again :o |
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| 07:30.32 | JerleMinara | is there a solution to the pitbull aura thing with totalselfbuffs? |
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| 07:32.16 | dieck | hi there. is there any addon for bulk mailing items to a predefined recipient list? we want to sent Marks of the Illidari from our guild bank to our raid members on different occasions, and I'm not satisfied with mailing ~35 people manually each time :) |
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| 07:37.27 | Xinhuan | dieck, i tell them to mail me if they need marks |
| 07:37.36 | Xinhuan | so i just hit "reply" and send marks |
| 07:37.42 | Xinhuan | but yeah its still manual |
| 07:38.23 | Xinhuan | addon authors can be a bit hesitant about including "mass mailing features" which might be abusable for other purposes |
| 07:40.01 | Zhinjio | Heya Xinhuan |
| 07:40.20 | dieck | yeah, but as there are mass mailing features in BulkMail or GuildMail, I thought there may be one for sending items, too :) |
| 07:43.02 | Xinhuan | hehe |
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| 07:47.41 | JerleMinara | anyone using baggins in beta? |
| 07:48.25 | Adirelle|work | o/ |
| 07:48.57 | Nargiddley | yeah, haven't done too much testing yet tho |
| 07:49.08 | JerleMinara | any chance you might have a theory as to why i'm getting "attempt to index field 'db' (a nil value)" errors all over the place? |
| 07:49.25 | Nargiddley | I haven't run into that one |
| 07:49.33 | Nargiddley | running embedded ? |
| 07:50.01 | JerleMinara | no |
| 07:50.12 | Adirelle|work | actually I'm running embedded but Ace3, seems to work fine |
| 07:50.49 | Nargiddley | I was running it last night embedded, just the latest version |
| 07:51.04 | JerleMinara | must have something to do with embedding |
| 07:51.06 | Nargiddley | diddn't run into any problems but only been playing for a few hours in beta |
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| 07:51.24 | Adirelle|work | I checked out the Ace3 WotLK branch as a standaolne and Baggins, then I removed only Ace* directory from Baggins libs/ |
| 07:51.51 | JerleMinara | baggins is ace2..? |
| 07:52.04 | Adirelle|work | nvm, I did the same with Ace2 xD |
| 07:52.14 | Adirelle|work | so that still apply |
| 07:52.24 | Adirelle|work | s/ly/lies/ |
| 07:52.29 | dieck | hm, got my beta key yesterday. for getting the WotLK branch, do I have to use like TortoiseSVN or is there a way to use the ace updater? |
| 07:52.35 | JerleMinara | svn |
| 07:52.38 | Adirelle|work | svn only |
| 07:53.00 | dieck | ok |
| 07:53.02 | digmouse | dieck: most of them are on WoWinterface wotlk category now |
| 07:53.02 | Adirelle|work | I meant TortoiseSVN or plain svn |
| 07:53.17 | digmouse | except for bt4 and parrot |
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| 08:02.02 | CIA-47 | 03hegarol * r80786 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/BattlegroundPvP.en.lua: |
| 08:02.02 | CIA-47 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 08:02.02 | CIA-47 | - typo fixed |
| 08:02.03 | CIA-47 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3-WotLK * r80785 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/modules/combopoints/combopoints.lua: ag_UnitFrames: update ComboPoints module for latest beta build |
| 08:03.46 | Adirelle|work | who is using some kind of logging framework in his/her addons for debugging purpose ? |
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| 08:11.39 | CIA-47 | 03nevcairiel 07WotlK * r80787 10Bartender4/ (actionBar/States.lua buttonPrototypes/ActionButton.lua): Bartender4: update to changes to the secure code |
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| 08:20.10 | CIA-47 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80788 10Prat/modules/Experimental.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 08:20.10 | CIA-47 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 08:20.10 | CIA-47 | Mouseover hilighting of player chat: When hovering over a playerlink, all |
| 08:20.10 | CIA-47 | chatlines that do not apply to this player are faded out 25%, thereby |
| 08:20.10 | CIA-47 | displaying this player's chatlines as hilighted among the other lines. |
| 08:20.11 | CIA-47 | Inspiration |
| 08:20.15 | CIA-47 | from |
| 08:24.04 | Kalroth | from?! |
| 08:24.12 | Kalroth | Don't keep us in suspense! |
| 08:24.16 | Kalroth | hammers on CIA-47. |
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| 08:30.52 | Industrial | kicks CIA-47 |
| 08:30.53 | CIA-47 | ow |
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| 08:33.52 | CIA-47 | 03Copystring * r80789 10YurrCombatLog/Core.lua: |
| 08:33.52 | CIA-47 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 08:33.52 | CIA-47 | - possible fix QuickButtonFrame showing when it is not supposed to be |
| 08:36.47 | CIA-47 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3-WotLK * r80790 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/modules/combopoints/combopoints.lua: ag_UnitFrames: fix combopoints for real |
| 08:49.30 | Adirelle|work | does anyone seems this interesting : writing 1) a light-weight library that provides Debug/Info/Notice/Warn/Error (and GetLogger) mixins and sends the messages through callbacks 2) one or more addon that will displays thoses messages ? |
| 08:50.20 | cladhaire | its already been written |
| 08:50.29 | cladhaire | as per usual |
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| 08:51.05 | Adirelle|work | not suprising, and how is it called ? |
| 08:51.08 | cladhaire | auctioneer has one, now I just have to find it |
| 08:51.40 | cladhaire | now I'm not gonna be able to find it :( |
| 08:52.11 | cladhaire | oh well write it :P |
| 08:52.57 | Adirelle|work | there is swatter, but it only catch lua error, like buggrabber/bugsack and tekerr |
| 08:54.23 | nevcairiel | I dont see the point of such a combination anyway |
| 08:54.30 | nevcairiel | its only for the developer themself, mainly |
| 08:54.37 | nevcairiel | so just add a toggle for the info/debug level |
| 08:54.43 | nevcairiel | and output to chat =P |
| 08:56.09 | CIA-47 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80791 10Prat/modules/Experimental.lua: |
| 08:56.09 | CIA-47 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 08:56.09 | CIA-47 | When highlighting lines from a player, if the lines have been fully faded out, |
| 08:56.09 | CIA-47 | they are redisplayed to full alpha, and returned to fully faded out after |
| 08:56.09 | CIA-47 | the highlight ends. Increased highlight to 50%, |
| 08:56.28 | vithos | i've not used these personally, but maybe LibLogger or tekDebug? |
| 08:56.30 | Adirelle|work | as it is mainly for developper, the library has to be the lightest possible, the point is using hierarchical categories (like in Log4something) to allow fine-grained debug enabling |
| 08:57.12 | nevcairiel | LibLogger allows you to specify levels on which those messages are output, iirc |
| 08:57.49 | vithos | i think i remember there being log levels via LibLogger in MagicMarker |
| 08:58.59 | Adirelle|work | actually LibLogger has some weird pieces of code |
| 08:59.27 | Adirelle|work | and doesn't handle categories (that are orthodoxal to levels) |
| 09:00.12 | nevcairiel | I cant think of any addon that would need that kind of detailed log/debug features, but oh well, just write it yourself =P |
| 09:02.16 | Matrix110 | 749mb |
| 09:02.17 | Matrix110 | omg |
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| 09:09.10 | CIA-47 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80792 10Prat/modules/Experimental.lua: |
| 09:09.10 | CIA-47 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 09:09.10 | CIA-47 | Fix for 2 column chatframes + mouseover line hilight, restoring the correct |
| 09:09.10 | CIA-47 | alpha to the chatline should only happen once, so that the timestamps can |
| 09:09.10 | CIA-47 | fade out with the chatlines. |
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| 09:28.28 | orionshock | anything interesting in today's beta patch? |
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| 09:29.04 | nevcairiel | a focus frame in the defualt ui :) |
| 09:29.23 | nevcairiel | and the new secure-environment version is awesome |
| 09:32.21 | CIA-47 | 03shefki * r80793 10PitBull/ComboPoints/ComboPoints.lua: PitBull_ComboPoints: Forward compatability for WoTLK API changes. |
| 09:33.28 | Matrix110 | it kills all my mods I guess :-( |
| 09:33.44 | Kalroth | owned! |
| 09:34.03 | orionshock | Matrix110: what doesn't kill you, eventually will :D |
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| 09:37.20 | orionshock | lol and they broke pallys :D |
| 09:37.23 | orionshock | all is good |
| 09:38.28 | digmouse | is there any combo points mod works for wlk? |
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| 09:44.06 | Lyn_ | orionshock, :( i wanted to be OP with my green stuff (pally) xD |
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| 09:46.11 | orionshock | passes around donation plate for Paladin QQ's |
| 09:46.15 | Lyn_ | :( |
| 09:46.20 | Lyn_ | good |
| 09:46.33 | Lyn_ | i still have my shammy :x |
| 09:46.46 | orionshock | they will be buried after the patch |
| 09:46.55 | Lyn_ | rogue? |
| 09:47.28 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:47.39 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:47.49 | Lyn_ | druids should die in a fire |
| 09:47.52 | Lyn_ | dk - okay |
| 09:47.55 | orionshock | o.O |
| 09:48.04 | orionshock | blasphemy! |
| 09:48.07 | nevcairiel | druids are the love class of blizzard, live with it =P |
| 09:48.31 | Lyn_ | op in arena and still want to be op in pve... they cant have both |
| 09:48.38 | digmouse | why my Kick and Gouge are gone o.O? |
| 09:48.47 | orionshock | nevcairiel means that in a "Over the counter constantly from behind sort of way". least that's what blizzard keeps giving us :\ |
| 09:48.57 | Lyn_ | digmouse, relearn from trainer |
| 09:49.32 | Lyn_ | over 30 engineering recipes |
| 09:49.33 | Lyn_ | whowo |
| 09:49.39 | digmouse | o.O? wow |
| 09:49.40 | Lyn_ | engineer love |
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| 09:49.59 | Lyn_ | digmouse, yeah, they changed gouge and kick.. so you have to relearn it, same for intercept (warri) |
| 09:50.00 | cncfanatics | Lyn_: why can't we have both ? |
| 09:50.09 | cncfanatics | I don't PvE, so :D |
| 09:50.12 | Lyn_ | cncfanatics, cause druids suck. |
| 09:50.17 | cncfanatics | they still own you |
| 09:50.19 | Lyn_ | yeah than its okay for you |
| 09:50.22 | Lyn_ | pvp they own |
| 09:50.24 | Lyn_ | pve they dont |
| 09:50.27 | Lyn_ | thats the way it is :p |
| 09:50.38 | cncfanatics | they're fine in pve |
| 09:50.57 | Lyn_ | with good equip |
| 09:51.05 | cncfanatics | nah |
| 09:51.10 | cncfanatics | with equal gear as the other healers ur fine |
| 09:51.11 | Lyn_ | MOLL-E .. portable mailbox <3 |
| 09:51.16 | Lyn_ | yeah as heal |
| 09:51.20 | cncfanatics | I'm a healer :) |
| 09:51.24 | Lyn_ | yeah than ok |
| 09:51.30 | nevcairiel | Druids as Tanks are fine too |
| 09:51.34 | nevcairiel | dps could be a bit more |
| 09:51.37 | Lyn_ | i didn't mention that i mean the dd part of druids |
| 09:51.41 | orionshock | eh, last time i checked druids work like this: "Buff them for lvling, then when the QQ on the forums get's bad by the warriors and rogues, Nerf them back to the healer bitch role" |
| 09:52.01 | cncfanatics | orionshock: that was BC basicly :p |
| 09:52.14 | cncfanatics | though feral tanking is also fine now |
| 09:52.32 | Lyn_ | i only hope they nerf cyclone and increasing shapeshift costs... so they will be nerfed in arena but then they can buff them pve wise :p |
| 09:52.33 | orionshock | then as the QQ from druids ramps up, slowly buff them to where the top 10% of druids in all epics can preform like normal classes do :\ |
| 09:52.43 | orionshock | Lyn_: i |
| 09:52.52 | Lyn_ | i? |
| 09:53.09 | orionshock | Lyn_: id gladly take cyclone away for a functional entangling roots spell that dosn't dismiss it'self on a partial resist |
| 09:53.18 | Lyn_ | ;) |
| 09:53.25 | Lyn_ | uh, spellpower trinket for engineers |
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| 09:53.27 | Lyn_ | sexy |
| 09:53.47 | cncfanatics | Lyn_: I hate you :p |
| 09:53.52 | cncfanatics | shapeshifts are expensive enough as it is |
| 09:54.06 | Lyn_ | cncfanatics, then they just should change it that you can switch out of every cc |
| 09:54.08 | Lyn_ | :p |
| 09:54.10 | orionshock | OR FK ME, let me dual wield fist weapons and let the enchants proc.. how bout that.. |
| 09:54.32 | orionshock | but alas, that would make a functional class, we can't have that :| |
| 09:54.59 | Lyn_ | i dont do pvp, so i just care about the pve part... but nerfing classes on some pve-part just for pvp that sucks .. :x |
| 09:55.34 | cncfanatics | we can't switch out of every CC |
| 09:55.36 | cncfanatics | roots and poly |
| 09:55.55 | Lyn_ | and hex |
| 09:56.25 | cncfanatics | no idea for hex, didn't see it yet |
| 09:56.51 | cncfanatics | thats still barely every cc |
| 09:56.51 | Lyn_ | me too, but seems like it cause its classified as polymorph spell |
| 09:56.58 | Lyn_ | ah and you can switch out of nova |
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| 09:57.27 | orionshock | JoJ? |
| 09:57.27 | nevcairiel | yeah nova is a root class spell |
| 09:57.33 | Lyn_ | so thats - roughly said - the half of the cc |
| 09:57.44 | orionshock | please for love of god and all that is holy, let us shape shift out |
| 09:57.47 | orionshock | pallys are OP enough |
| 09:57.52 | cncfanatics | Lyn_ ... |
| 09:57.55 | cncfanatics | you just went from all cc to half |
| 09:57.56 | cncfanatics | gz |
| 09:58.01 | cncfanatics | we can take you very seriously now :p |
| 09:58.11 | Lyn_ | cncfanatics, go qq more about that |
| 09:58.13 | nevcairiel | I never understood why JoJ was not shiftable |
| 09:58.24 | cncfanatics | its not a root nevcairiel |
| 09:58.26 | nevcairiel | The tooltip says "All movement imparing effects" |
| 09:58.27 | Lyn_ | half of every cc is enough to be op + cyclone |
| 09:58.29 | orionshock | nevcairiel: not considered a movement impairing effects |
| 09:58.45 | nevcairiel | But it does impair my movement =P |
| 09:58.51 | orionshock | no actualy |
| 09:59.03 | orionshock | it simply dosn't allow you to move faster than 100% |
| 09:59.12 | nevcairiel | which limits my movement in travel form |
| 09:59.17 | nevcairiel | so it impairs my movement |
| 09:59.22 | orionshock | technicality |
| 09:59.46 | orionshock | it's not a natural movement speed |
| 09:59.55 | nevcairiel | it is for druids! |
| 09:59.59 | nevcairiel | we're all about nature! |
| 10:00.39 | orionshock | i still think that druids should get a 2min CD abilty that blows all their mana but 1 shots people |
| 10:00.55 | orionshock | i call that balanced :D |
| 10:01.07 | Lyn_ | ... |
| 10:01.10 | orionshock | rouges get it, and druids are half a rogue :D |
| 10:01.11 | nevcairiel | gogo 2v2 |
| 10:01.12 | Lyn_ | please die in a fire |
| 10:01.13 | nevcairiel | 2 druids :D |
| 10:01.28 | cncfanatics | Lyn_: what class are you ? |
| 10:01.34 | Lyn_ | shaman |
| 10:01.36 | Lyn_ | normally |
| 10:01.40 | orionshock | or give us vanish in cat form |
| 10:01.42 | orionshock | come on |
| 10:01.44 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: go 5v5 with 5 druids ? :p |
| 10:01.47 | CIA-47 | 03shefki * r80795 10PitBull/HideBlizzard/HideBlizzard.lua: PitBull_HideBlizzard: Add support for hiding the new built in focus frame in WoTLK. |
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| 10:02.05 | cncfanatics | I think we should have an ability that stuns all shamans 100 yards around us for 20 seconds |
| 10:02.21 | Lyn_ | i think druids are the same QQ-class as rogue and warlocks |
| 10:02.38 | Lyn_ | they can do much, but still want more |
| 10:02.40 | nevcairiel | I never QQ, because i play a pure PvE Resto, and i love it ;) |
| 10:02.53 | Lyn_ | maybe you, yes |
| 10:02.59 | Lyn_ | but 99% of the other druids does |
| 10:02.59 | cncfanatics | same here hehe, I just love to anoy people on irc :) |
| 10:03.26 | nevcairiel | Also I love what happend to feral on wotlk right now, leveling is so much smoother then _any_ other class |
| 10:03.35 | Lyn_ | and I hate to get nerfed just cause some fuckers say they lost a match years ago against my class |
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| 10:07.59 | orionshock | question, every time i die and look at the world map, there is a red and blue grave stone marker there; the hell is that? |
| 10:08.17 | Maldivia | a bug |
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| 10:09.20 | digmouse | there are grave stone marker all over the map |
| 10:09.38 | nevcairiel | only on some maps |
| 10:09.42 | nevcairiel | weird bug |
| 10:10.03 | digmouse | at least i see them all over og and Warsong hold |
| 10:11.11 | nevcairiel | yay you can mount in citys again =P |
| 10:11.16 | digmouse | but even blizzard floating combat text cant display combo points... |
| 10:11.26 | Lyn_ | nevcairiel, good change :p |
| 10:11.28 | digmouse | Need i switch to Pitbull? |
| 10:11.30 | nevcairiel | agUF can display combo points again |
| 10:11.38 | nevcairiel | because i fixed it =p |
| 10:11.42 | orionshock | new DK debuff icons and a new icon for Heartstrike |
| 10:11.49 | Lyn_ | uh |
| 10:11.54 | Lyn_ | have to look .. first my nerfed pally :p |
| 10:12.23 | digmouse | nev: i've updated, no cps :( need to wipe SV? |
| 10:12.40 | nevcairiel | shouldnt need to |
| 10:13.04 | digmouse | uh I'll check whether I need another update |
| 10:13.09 | Lyn_ | lol ... my judgement doesnt to any dmg oO |
| 10:13.27 | digmouse | Lyn: bugged |
| 10:13.47 | Lyn_ | ah |
| 10:13.47 | Lyn_ | good |
| 10:15.08 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna get working on fb for wotlk soon heh |
| 10:15.12 | digmouse | now ret paladins is not king of the wild |
| 10:15.30 | Lyn_ | with buggy judgements pally can go clean the toilet |
| 10:15.42 | Lyn_ | no mana back from jow |
| 10:15.44 | Lyn_ | etc pp |
| 10:15.53 | digmouse | no 10K damage |
| 10:16.08 | Lyn_ | yeah, and no 2k dmg |
| 10:16.13 | Lyn_ | :p |
| 10:16.39 | digmouse | fortunately I havent log onto my pally |
| 10:18.47 | Lyn_ | yeah nice, the "new" icon of heart strike istn really new |
| 10:18.57 | Lyn_ | and why the hell does my DK have some green glow? |
| 10:19.39 | Nargiddley | No idea but mine has the same |
| 10:19.57 | orionshock | they nerfed the proc rate on Blood worms again i think |
| 10:20.02 | Lyn_ | yeah |
| 10:20.07 | Lyn_ | and also the healing bonus from blood presence |
| 10:20.15 | Lyn_ | but thats okay |
| 10:20.19 | orionshock | btw, the green glow is aparently from a glitch from the bloodworms tallent |
| 10:20.46 | Lyn_ | oO? |
| 10:20.50 | Lyn_ | really? |
| 10:20.54 | Lyn_ | looks funny |
| 10:21.32 | Lyn_ | ah |
| 10:21.39 | Lyn_ | and blood rune mastery is removed :/ |
| 10:22.20 | orionshock | what tree? |
| 10:22.35 | Lyn_ | blood |
| 10:22.36 | Lyn_ | :p |
| 10:22.50 | orionshock | what did they replace it with? |
| 10:22.55 | Lyn_ | nothing |
| 10:23.05 | Lyn_ | they just put abonimation strength on that place and you got a free point |
| 10:24.38 | Lyn_ | does they somehow changed the damage of obliterate? it hasn't the 60% crit dmg now.. |
| 10:25.42 | Lyn_ | ah, the finally fixed bloodworms heal/dmg |
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| 10:32.33 | nevcairiel | man they broke swiftmend |
| 10:32.46 | nevcairiel | and flourish still only has one rank |
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| 10:41.28 | Sole | <Binding name="Display kGo Window" header="KGO"> BINDING_HEADER_KGO = "kGo" |
| 10:41.41 | Sole | first is the xml line, second is lua |
| 10:41.54 | Sole | it no worky |
| 10:42.18 | orionshock | AHH |
| 10:42.30 | orionshock | LK Northrend WSD |
| 10:42.32 | orionshock | :( |
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| 10:47.01 | Tifi | http://www.wowwiki.com/Using_bindings.xml_to_create_key_bindings_for_your_addon |
| 10:49.31 | CIA-47 | 03Copystring * r80796 10YurrCombatLog/Config.lua: |
| 10:49.31 | CIA-47 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 10:49.31 | CIA-47 | - fix guardian Affiliation |
| 10:56.12 | Lyn_ | mh... dk-frost = dw or not? :x |
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| 11:06.40 | CIA-47 | 03whitetooth * r80797 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: StatLogicLib: frFR update: Purified Shadowsong Amethyst |
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| 11:35.29 | orionshock | ghay |
| 11:35.38 | orionshock | LK-Northrend Server Down again |
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| 11:36.11 | Lyn_ | mh |
| 11:36.13 | Lyn_ | okay, frost is nice |
| 11:36.51 | CIA-47 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3-WotLK * r80798 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/modules/auras/auras.lua: ag_UnitFrames: temporarily fix aura filters |
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| 11:37.07 | CIA-47 | 03sole * r80799 10kGo/ (8 files): kGo: Initial commit. Description: Press a button, and a window will pop up which allows you to cast spells/abilities and use items quickly.Out of combat only. Very much beta. |
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| 11:55.55 | p3lim | Anyone know how to make a statusbar go from left to right instead of right to left (reversed in other means) |
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| 12:00.19 | orionshock | grr, wtb addon that allows me to arbitrarily add spells to stance bar |
| 12:00.45 | Matrix110 | pft stance bars |
| 12:00.49 | Matrix110 | only for looser classes! |
| 12:02.21 | CIA-47 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r80801 10ag_UnitFrames/modules/auras/auras.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Buffs and Debuffs can now be filtered individually |
| 12:02.32 | CIA-47 | 03nevcairiel 07ag_Options * r80802 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_ModuleOptions.lua locales/ag_Options-enUS.lua): ag_Options: add options for new aura filtering |
| 12:03.38 | Tifi | orionshock, cant you just add the stance spells to arbitrary action bars? |
| 12:03.50 | orionshock | no |
| 12:03.56 | orionshock | well depends on class really |
| 12:04.00 | orionshock | warriors, don't think so |
| 12:04.36 | Tifi | you could use macros |
| 12:05.11 | orionshock | i want to add things like "Path of Frost" for a DK, to the stance bar because its an aura, and it would be convenient to have it near the other ones :D |
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| 12:06.34 | Tifi | well it does work with bongos, just dragndrop the stance from the spell book |
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| 12:09.19 | Pkekyo| | ~date |
| 12:09.20 | purl | It is now 2008.08.22 12:09:20 GMT |
| 12:10.37 | cncfanatics | who maintains fishingbuddy ? |
| 12:10.43 | cncfanatics | it fucks up GameTooltip bad |
| 12:12.52 | nevcairiel | use fishermansfriend |
| 12:14.53 | cncfanatics | does it also track fish ? |
| 12:15.05 | cncfanatics | I love the fish browser in fishingbuddy :p |
| 12:20.16 | Pkekyo| | noen som vet om VFC fortsatt har Heckler & Koch trades? |
| 12:20.26 | Pkekyo| | eh, wrong channel... |
| 12:21.54 | p3lim | orionshock: I head blizz will add a aura bar too |
| 12:24.08 | Tentacled | oookay now this is evil. |
| 12:24.09 | Tentacled | Interface\FrameXML\UIDropDownMenu.lua: 838: attempt to call method 'GetName' (a nil value) |
| 12:24.25 | Tentacled | did they... remove... GetName... from the widgets..?? |
| 12:26.21 | cncfanatics | Tentacled: frameXML is probably trying to call GetName on a table that isn't a frame |
| 12:26.34 | cncfanatics | I have no idea why though |
| 12:26.56 | Pneumatus | needs moar backtrace |
| 12:27.07 | cncfanatics | indeed |
| 12:27.18 | Tentacled | sure needs, I wish I had any, that's a user's bug report on my addon under 3.0 :> |
| 12:27.22 | Pneumatus | SCT options was throwing a similar error when you closed the world map |
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| 12:28.43 | Pneumatus | no replication steps either, i guess? |
| 12:29.07 | Tentacled | perish the thought. :> |
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| 12:29.24 | Tentacled | I know 3.0 will break stuff, I just have yet to test it >_> |
| 12:32.28 | CIA-47 | 03odlaw * r80803 10PassLoot/ (PassLoot.lua PassLoot.toc): PassLoot: description change |
| 12:32.38 | Pneumatus | id take a wild stab in the dark its the change from this/self in xm |
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| 12:39.38 | Gibbonz|Work_ | as i wasnt around the day bc went live, will be interesting to see when wrath does ;p |
| 12:41.40 | Gibbonz|Work_ | little things like what happens to all your talent points, considering the changes |
| 12:42.10 | Pneumatus | 2.0 was patched in a couple of weeks before bc release |
| 12:42.23 | Pneumatus | so people got to dick around with the new talents for a while |
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| 12:42.56 | nevcairiel | you will get a refund of all talents when the expansion hits |
| 12:43.27 | phantom | Hi all im planing to configure Wow today. Which is the best private server? |
| 12:43.28 | Pneumatus | im expecting they will patch 3.0 in along with some kind of world event to move dalaran and naxx |
| 12:43.51 | Gibbonz|Work_ | thats what I imagined would happen.. you just get refunded all points to respend |
| 12:44.08 | nevcairiel | phantom: We do not offer any support for private servers, and dont talk of that subject here again |
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| 12:45.45 | CIA-47 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3-WotLK * r80804 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options/ (ag_ModuleOptions.lua locales/ag_Options-enUS.lua): aag_UnitFrames: Buffs and Debuffs can now be filtered individually |
| 12:45.45 | CIA-47 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3-WotLK * r80805 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/modules/auras/auras.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Buffs and Debuffs can now be filtered individually |
| 12:46.17 | Gibbonz|Work_ | and yeah, its an exciting prospect that i'll be around this time :) |
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| 12:58.06 | KriLL3 | how/where do you get glyphs or are they NYI? |
| 12:58.37 | nevcairiel | nyi |
| 12:58.41 | Elkano | inscription ;) |
| 12:58.43 | KriLL3 | :( |
| 12:58.50 | Pneumatus | you still cant level inscription past 130ish can you? |
| 12:58.54 | KriLL3 | Elkano: yeah figured that but inscription isn't past 100 yet |
| 12:58.55 | Elkano | and since you can't level that very much, yet... |
| 12:59.24 | KriLL3 | I wantz my polarbear! |
| 12:59.26 | Elkano | can't level leatherworking, either... which sucks since I can level skinning :/ |
| 12:59.45 | Pneumatus | alchemy still only has about 4 new recipies also |
| 12:59.46 | Elkano | so I've got my bags full of leather I can't do shit with :/ |
| 12:59.49 | smoke_ | anyone know of a stun timer that syncs? |
| 12:59.57 | odt | is inscription still for helms only? |
| 13:00.06 | nevcairiel | o.O? |
| 13:00.08 | odt | don't know anything bout wotlk |
| 13:00.16 | odt | atm they are for helms |
| 13:00.19 | nevcairiel | I think someone needs to read up on inscriptions! |
| 13:00.29 | odt | nah |
| 13:00.31 | Pneumatus | smoke_: i've been thinking about writing a syncing CC timer addon for a while, if that helps |
| 13:00.36 | odt | i just see it for myself when the game is out |
| 13:01.00 | nevcairiel | odt: ever char has 6 glyph slots that you can put glyphs in, and those come from the inscription professions |
| 13:01.17 | odt | so they are like separate from your equipment? |
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| 13:01.22 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 13:01.39 | Pneumatus | they are enchants for your spells |
| 13:01.39 | odt | hmm |
| 13:01.40 | dieck | hm, are they downrankable? can you put a minor glyph in a major slot (if you don't have a major glyph at that time?) |
| 13:01.40 | Pneumatus | basically |
| 13:01.44 | odt | ok |
| 13:01.57 | nevcairiel | dieck: no idea, but i doubt you really want =P |
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| 13:02.08 | dieck | maybe not :) |
| 13:02.36 | Lukian | Hey guys |
| 13:02.45 | Lukian | which addon is causign the Raid tab to blank out in combat? |
| 13:02.48 | dieck | are there any hints about what inscriptions will be "bop"? So if it is "neccessary" to skillup inscription yourself? |
| 13:03.08 | nevcairiel | dont think something like that was announced yet |
| 13:03.15 | nevcairiel | would be too OP for inscription, though |
| 13:03.24 | nevcairiel | I heard learnign inscription gives you another glyph slot |
| 13:03.29 | nevcairiel | not sure which "size" though |
| 13:03.34 | Pneumatus | yeh, thats on mmo-champ |
| 13:03.46 | Lyn_ | lol ... titan grip no speed penalty :x |
| 13:03.55 | Pneumatus | a minor one if they have any sense.. |
| 13:03.58 | cncfanatics | Lyn_: its called extreme testing |
| 13:04.00 | Lukian | nevcairiel, one size fits all? :D |
| 13:04.06 | nevcairiel | a major would be too OP |
| 13:04.10 | cncfanatics | they tested it with a high speed penatly, now they're testing it with no penalty |
| 13:04.11 | Lyn_ | cncfanatics, i know how its called ffs. still wondering |
| 13:04.12 | nevcairiel | everyone would go inscription |
| 13:08.24 | smoke_ | Pneumatus, there are no syncing cc timers available atm? |
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| 13:08.40 | Pneumatus | smoke_: not that i've ever found |
| 13:08.56 | smoke_ | there is cc tracker from the guy that made afflicted but its buggy |
| 13:10.14 | smoke_ | k |
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| 13:11.14 | dieck | hm, is eu beta azeroth (eastern kingdoms) world down, or is it a connection problem with me? |
| 13:11.47 | Lyn_ | dieck, down |
| 13:11.52 | dieck | k |
| 13:12.02 | Elkano | whole server down I think |
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| 13:16.14 | dieck | nevcairiel: just learned inscription on my dk, at least only "learning" does not give you another glyph slot. maybe when I skill up |
| 13:16.33 | nevcairiel | its probably a spell on some skill level |
| 13:16.51 | KriLL3 | can you even use glyph slots yet? |
| 13:16.59 | nevcairiel | in theory |
| 13:17.03 | nevcairiel | you just cant produce glyphs =P |
| 13:17.10 | KriLL3 | I wounder if glyphs are consumed if replaced etc or if you can switch em at will |
| 13:17.16 | dieck | nevcairiel: the glyph interface is a circle with the mid free, but exactly the size of a minor glyph, I'd guess that's whrer the additional slot will be |
| 13:18.19 | KriLL3 | that's my main gripe about gems, costs a minor fortune and if you change your mind / get a new item for that slot you need another one :( |
| 13:18.24 | Adirelle|work | I think there are DPS issues, my autoshot critted at 3,8k on a naga of Quel'Danas (I'm 70) |
| 13:18.47 | Adirelle|work | never seen that before, and moreover it shouldn't crit over 2,1k |
| 13:19.10 | Elkano | KriLL3, it's called money sink ;) |
| 13:19.15 | KriLL3 | dps issues? mages critting 4k~ on you seems very balanced... |
| 13:19.19 | KriLL3 | Elkano: indeed |
| 13:19.36 | KriLL3 | but the gemcrafters must be laughing all the way to the bank |
| 13:19.45 | KriLL3 | or does their mats really cost that much? |
| 13:19.54 | Adirelle|work | KriLL3: I mean I see no talent or whatever that could explain a crit of 4k where the theorical value is 2k... |
| 13:20.21 | KriLL3 | I don't have a clue how hunters work |
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| 13:20.40 | Adirelle|work | I do, that's why I said there is something weird |
| 13:20.50 | KriLL3 | leveled one to level 8 before I deleted it, mind numbing |
| 13:22.34 | KriLL3 | ... how could the pvp gear for ferals not include str, int, hit? |
| 13:22.38 | Adirelle|work | I fail to figure how you could figure how a class is before level 20 (and well, before level 60 should I say) |
| 13:23.12 | KriLL3 | Adirelle|work: I played on my brother's level 60-70 hunter for him, was mind numbing also |
| 13:23.56 | Adirelle|work | ok |
| 13:24.03 | KriLL3 | I guess my feral ways makes it really hard to stand back and play a passive role |
| 13:25.20 | Adirelle|work | where, in raid ? |
| 13:25.27 | KriLL3 | I don't raid |
| 13:25.35 | KriLL3 | in a raid everyone has a passive role |
| 13:25.49 | ckknight | waves |
| 13:25.51 | ckknight | howdy, all |
| 13:26.00 | KriLL3 | hi there :) |
| 13:26.04 | Adirelle|work | KriLL3: yes, I was about to said that |
| 13:26.12 | Adirelle|work | hi ckknight |
| 13:27.20 | Adirelle|work | actually you become more active as soon as you are given something to trap |
| 13:28.12 | KriLL3 | ... |
| 13:28.39 | KriLL3 | yeah you need to break your castsequence once every 30 or so seconds to put a trap in front of you |
| 13:29.04 | KriLL3 | though I guess you could put the trap into your macro |
| 13:29.18 | Adirelle|work | let's end this discussion here |
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| 13:32.35 | ckknight | Adirelle|work: ? |
| 13:32.47 | KriLL3 | ckknight: will PB3.0 be updated to "work" in LK or is 4.0 the LK version? |
| 13:32.58 | ckknight | it already works in WotLK |
| 13:33.29 | KriLL3 | the version I got doesn't update energy smoothly, and the runes aren't in there etc |
| 13:33.33 | KriLL3 | and buffs don't work |
| 13:33.36 | njal | do I need to get pitbull from another branch then? |
| 13:33.41 | ckknight | then you need to update, KriLL3 |
| 13:33.49 | ckknight | no, njal, I don't work in branches that way |
| 13:33.51 | KriLL3 | ckknight: latest 3.0 works properly? |
| 13:33.57 | ckknight | yea |
| 13:34.01 | KriLL3 | nice |
| 13:34.06 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: the discussion between KriLL3 and me about hunters |
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| 13:35.20 | ckknight | hey, guess what |
| 13:35.27 | ckknight | today's my birthday |
| 13:35.32 | KriLL3 | gratz :) |
| 13:35.32 | ckknight | I'm old now |
| 13:35.45 | KriLL3 | ohnoes, time to retire? :( |
| 13:35.47 | KriLL3 | ;) |
| 13:36.16 | ckknight | looks like it |
| 13:36.24 | ckknight | granted, I can legally drink now |
| 13:36.34 | dodga | Happy birthday, ckknight :o |
| 13:36.36 | KriLL3 | 18? 20? |
| 13:36.40 | ckknight | 21 |
| 13:36.48 | KriLL3 | I turned 22 2 weeks ago :) |
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| 13:40.21 | Chompers | happy birthay ckk |
| 13:41.35 | Gibbonz|Work_ | did it cost a lot to buy Drinking Legally (Rank 1)? :p |
| 13:41.58 | ckknight | I had to just grind through life waiting for it |
| 13:42.20 | Gibbonz|Work_ | happy bithday tho :) |
| 13:42.21 | Adirelle|work | ckknight: you're far from being old :p |
| 13:42.27 | ckknight | lol, Adirelle|work |
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| 13:43.00 | Vulcanus | just 1 more year till you get new skills |
| 13:43.01 | Adirelle|work | (or else I'm an elder) |
| 13:43.45 | Gibbonz|Work_ | and 9 more before he gets a mount... |
| 13:44.18 | KriLL3 | is there a reason why the wow downloader eats all your upload speed like candy leaving nothing for the overhead needed for the download? :( |
| 13:44.39 | Gibbonz|Work_ | its blizzard, its designed to fail :) |
| 13:44.55 | Vulcanus | because you disabled the limit in preferences :p |
| 13:45.11 | KriLL3 | it it just used 10-20KB/s less than your total upload your download speed would be a lot better |
| 13:45.18 | KriLL3 | Vulcanus: no you can't set a limit |
| 13:45.26 | KriLL3 | you can just turn p2p off |
| 13:45.36 | CIA-47 | 03doktorjet * r80806 10Cryolysis2/messages/turtle.lua: |
| 13:45.36 | CIA-47 | Cryolysis2: |
| 13:45.36 | CIA-47 | - fixed typo in ruRU messages |
| 13:45.40 | KriLL3 | meaning downloads as well |
| 13:45.40 | Adirelle|work | is Coldarra down ? or am I just stuck in the air in front of IF ? |
| 13:45.51 | Gibbonz|Work_ | the throttle option applies to both |
| 13:46.21 | Neya | it was up a few seconds ago Adirelle |
| 13:46.23 | Gibbonz|Work_ | if im not mistaken ;p |
| 13:46.24 | Trell- | errr, latest Beta build - I've lost my AGUF target frame |
| 13:46.32 | Neya | untill I logged due too nasty lootlag. |
| 13:46.37 | KriLL3 | Gibbonz|Work_: you turn of p2p, thus all that's left is direct download, which isn't quick |
| 13:46.49 | nevcairiel | Trell-: update? :p |
| 13:47.02 | Trell- | now why didn't I think of that. |
| 13:47.04 | Adirelle|work | so there is just a nasty bug with the flypath going to and from IF |
| 13:47.07 | Gibbonz|Work_ | and besides, that option is for background downloading :) |
| 13:47.53 | Adirelle|work | using server-side cvar seems to have some drawbacks |
| 13:48.16 | Adirelle|work | like not always saving your preferences in case of crash |
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| 13:48.30 | KriLL3 | the downloader is using so much upload it's almost impossible to browse... brilliant |
| 13:48.30 | Adirelle|work | I got my UI scale reset a couple of time |
| 13:48.35 | Pneumatus | yeh, they get repeatedly dicked up |
| 13:48.42 | Pneumatus | you can switch it off at least |
| 13:48.57 | Adirelle|work | Pneumatus: how ? |
| 13:49.05 | Pneumatus | theres a cvar |
| 13:49.11 | Gibbonz|Work_ | KriLL3: i know your pain :p |
| 13:49.17 | Adirelle|work | ok, that remember me something |
| 13:50.09 | CIA-47 | 03doktorjet * r80807 10GatherMate/Locales/GatherMate-ruRU.lua: GatherMate: another tiny fix 4 ruRU... |
| 13:50.49 | Nimbal | Hi everyone. Is there an addon that shows me all events that are fired? I think I had something like this a while ago, but can't remember the name. |
| 13:51.10 | Pneumatus | DevTools does it, i think |
| 13:51.11 | Adirelle|work | Pneumatus: for references: Saving the settings on the server can be disabled by setting the "synchronizeSettings" cvar to 0. You can then use the new UploadSettings() and DownloadSettings() functions to manage synchronization manually. |
| 13:51.31 | Pneumatus | aha, thats the one :) |
| 13:51.40 | Nimbal | Pneumatus: Thanks, I will give it a try |
| 13:56.31 | Adirelle|work | the three new hunter survival talents get refunded every time you log on, so you can have the explosive shot and 9 points to put anywhere you want... |
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| 13:58.56 | Odlaw | lawl.. xploit |
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| 13:59.12 | Tifi | is there a library to get the combat table? or some addon i could abuse? |
| 13:59.23 | Adirelle|work | actually, I put them back where they belong, but that's annoying |
| 13:59.27 | nevcairiel | the combat table? |
| 14:00.14 | Odlaw | Can you not be portaled to dalaran anymore? |
| 14:00.15 | Tifi | miss/dodge/parry/... |
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| 14:05.41 | Adirelle|work | hooray \o/ finally got rid of that cursed flight |
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| 14:11.06 | Obelixprime | can you get ravenholdt rep if you're not a rogue? |
| 14:11.14 | cncfanatics | Obelixprime: yes |
| 14:11.22 | cncfanatics | Obelixprime: why wld you want that though ? |
| 14:11.29 | Obelixprime | shits and giggles |
| 14:11.30 | Obelixprime | ii don't know |
| 14:13.42 | Fisker- | slaps cncfanatics around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:14.49 | Obelixprime | sigh |
| 14:14.52 | Obelixprime | the beta's stuck on the success screen and there's no realm list available |
| 14:15.26 | KriLL3 | great success! |
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| 14:17.24 | KriLL3 | are new areas accessible with this patch? it's ginormous, some of that has be to new content |
| 14:18.04 | Pneumatus | id hope so, i wouldnt like to get from 77 to 80 in instances alone |
| 14:19.05 | ckknight | I want instance maps already |
| 14:19.07 | KriLL3 | I stopped leveling at 71, I don't want to ruin the story and then have to do it all again when the game actually comes out |
| 14:19.23 | Obelixprime | Krill3 I feel ya |
| 14:19.24 | Fisker- | storm peaks is accessible |
| 14:19.33 | Fisker- | it seems to end just short of 78 |
| 14:19.38 | selckin | I always get annoyed trying to decrypt stupid quest text to coordinates |
| 14:19.41 | Obelixprime | I just don't have time to do that much in the beta |
| 14:19.42 | Fisker- | then you'll have to go revisit older zones |
| 14:19.47 | selckin | just tell me where it is allready, i don't care about your story |
| 14:19.49 | selckin | :\ |
| 14:20.05 | Fisker- | then you're going to like this storm peaks quests |
| 14:20.11 | Obelixprime | With raiding 5 nights a week, and trying to level atls with the refer a friend bonus, my beta key is sadly underused |
| 14:20.16 | Fisker- | "Go south west and find stormhoof and ask him about his memories" |
| 14:20.19 | Fisker- | or something like that |
| 14:20.41 | Fisker- | so i pretty much searched everywhere from the village to any spot southwest on the map |
| 14:20.47 | Fisker- | Turns out he was in the north |
| 14:20.48 | Fisker- | ... |
| 14:20.49 | selckin | i made it to 72 before quiting |
| 14:21.01 | fewyn | I am so glad you can make a torrent out of the downloaders, because seriously the blizzard downloader sucks |
| 14:21.04 | fewyn | you quit?! |
| 14:21.06 | fewyn | :( |
| 14:21.06 | KriLL3 | Fisker-: perhaps the questgiver has moved? or there is more than one |
| 14:21.14 | Pneumatus | ive been pre-grinding rep to exalted while im waiting for new beta content :P |
| 14:21.18 | Fisker- | Moved into the ocean? |
| 14:21.20 | Fisker- | i think not |
| 14:21.38 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: what rep? |
| 14:21.51 | Pneumatus | everything, just got timbermaw to go now |
| 14:21.56 | KriLL3 | ... |
| 14:21.57 | Pneumatus | for the achievement based reps |
| 14:22.06 | selckin | fewyn: none of the maps addons seemed to work properly to add notes easily, so i gave up oin beta till release, my mate is playing it now |
| 14:22.08 | KriLL3 | frostsaber or what ever guys also? |
| 14:22.17 | Pneumatus | no, but theres no achievment for them |
| 14:22.24 | Pneumatus | i completed exalted with CC and ogri'la today |
| 14:22.31 | KriLL3 | no achievement for the mount either? |
| 14:22.42 | Pneumatus | not that ive seen at least |
| 14:23.37 | fewyn | selckin: i was able to get tomtom to work kinda with mapster |
| 14:23.39 | Pneumatus | i have all outlands to exalted now, with the exception of ashtongue which i cant grind |
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| 14:24.01 | fewyn | selckin: none of the "arrow" pointing works but it works well enough |
| 14:24.07 | selckin | fewyn: do they have a '/note x y go here!' that puts icon on map and mini map? |
| 14:24.12 | KriLL3 | the beta ruined wow for me, I don't want to play the beta since I'll have to do it all over again when the game comes out and I'll know all the plotlines when I do, and the regular game sucks ass after having your new LK stuff |
| 14:24.14 | selckin | fewyn: all the ones i tried made you use a stupid UI |
| 14:24.23 | fewyn | i think cart3-0 can but it's rather buggy |
| 14:24.28 | fewyn | i don't like cart3 |
| 14:24.50 | selckin | takes like 20 secods to click and point add a note |
| 14:24.55 | selckin | takes 2 seconds to type /note |
| 14:25.08 | fewyn | well tomtom let's you create little dots |
| 14:25.16 | selckin | X in this box, Y in this box, just me copy paste from wowhead allready |
| 14:25.16 | KriLL3 | I easily got 2x more dps in LK than in BC and a lot more utility, it's hard to go back to BC :( |
| 14:25.20 | selckin | explodes |
| 14:25.23 | fewyn | using /way x y notename |
| 14:25.39 | fewyn | KriLL3: i feel your pain |
| 14:25.57 | fewyn | I'm exclusively playing beta besides playing the AH and raiding |
| 14:26.00 | selckin | i tried to convince some map authors to add easy note commands, but they all looked at me as if i was crazy |
| 14:26.11 | fewyn | You're not crazy imo |
| 14:26.35 | Pneumatus | i got bored of accumulating piles of gold |
| 14:26.41 | Pneumatus | which ill never be able to spend |
| 14:26.49 | Pneumatus | hence the rep grinding |
| 14:26.49 | KriLL3 | you will, trust me |
| 14:27.00 | fewyn | i'm going to flask the entire expansion when it hits for leveling i think |
| 14:27.04 | KriLL3 | gems, enchants, glyphs, potions... |
| 14:27.26 | Pneumatus | thats gonna cost a few k, max |
| 14:27.54 | fewyn | =p |
| 14:28.00 | fewyn | i wonder how many flasks i'll need |
| 14:28.03 | selckin | i quite trying to get gold at 50k, bought me a bunch of stupid stuff, like cenarian mount and, epic mounts for all my alts |
| 14:28.17 | Pneumatus | 10 hours per level, at a rough estimate |
| 14:28.25 | Pneumatus | so 5 flasks a level, 10 levels |
| 14:28.27 | Pneumatus | 50 flasks |
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| 14:28.58 | selckin | thats like 5 weeks of raiding :) |
| 14:29.21 | selckin | a moving speed flask would be more benifitial then any of the others for leveling |
| 14:29.28 | Pneumatus | at 70g a flask, thats a total of 3500g |
| 14:29.41 | fewyn | i'm hoping to finally discover the RA flask |
| 14:29.46 | selckin | cheap |
| 14:29.53 | fewyn | i've been making elixirs and flasks every day since BC hit |
| 14:29.57 | Pneumatus | that was the last flask i discovered :< |
| 14:30.02 | fewyn | and still haven't discovered it |
| 14:30.08 | Matrix110 | Flasking the expensive is useless |
| 14:30.16 | Pneumatus | im still misssing a transmute discovery |
| 14:30.17 | Hjalte | p3lim: Does oUF_p3lim support libmobhealth-4.0? |
| 14:30.21 | selckin | the increased it the ances some patches ago |
| 14:30.30 | p3lim | Hjalte: Nope |
| 14:30.33 | p3lim | Not at the moment |
| 14:30.35 | selckin | i rerolled professont to alchy and discovered everything in a week |
| 14:30.43 | fewyn | i hate you |
| 14:31.16 | selckin | made like ~1000 mana pots tho |
| 14:31.31 | fewyn | i've made like a million mana pots |
| 14:31.39 | Matrix110 | 2 people with 0 discoveries: One made 455 Mana Pots discovered 1 Flask | other one made ~150pots and discovered Super Reju Pot and 2 Flasks :D |
| 14:31.54 | selckin | random is random |
| 14:32.02 | fewyn | it's too random |
| 14:32.03 | fewyn | imo |
| 14:33.42 | fewyn | so |
| 14:33.48 | fewyn | they added a portable mailbox to engineers |
| 14:33.49 | fewyn | again |
| 14:33.55 | fewyn | i bet they remove it before the expansion! |
| 14:34.02 | fewyn | just like they did in BC |
| 14:34.04 | KriLL3 | they added a vendor also |
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| 14:34.09 | KriLL3 | you can sell your shit to it |
| 14:34.18 | Pneumatus | they are called repair bots |
| 14:34.23 | KriLL3 | no |
| 14:34.27 | KriLL3 | this one only does this |
| 14:34.33 | KriLL3 | and most likely is a lot cheaper |
| 14:34.41 | fewyn | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/august/8820_engineering.jpg |
| 14:34.49 | Pneumatus | repair bots are cheap anyway, just i refuse to ue them because they are non-faction-modified |
| 14:34.51 | KriLL3 | and possible to get without raiding at 60 |
| 14:35.18 | Pneumatus | you dont need to raid at 60 for either of the repair bot patterns |
| 14:35.22 | cncfanatics | indeed |
| 14:35.24 | fewyn | lol |
| 14:35.26 | fewyn | x-ray specs |
| 14:35.30 | cncfanatics | brb, rebooting |
| 14:35.31 | Pneumatus | the original one came from BRD |
| 14:35.49 | Adirelle|work | is there a way to go to northrend from outland ? the eastern kingdom server of coldarra seems uttery unstable |
| 14:36.05 | Pneumatus | through the shatt portal in dalaran |
| 14:36.06 | KriLL3 | fewyn: ... I wounder if they work |
| 14:36.06 | selckin | get summoned |
| 14:36.25 | fewyn | Pneumatus you read that wrong |
| 14:36.31 | Pneumatus | ah |
| 14:36.43 | Pneumatus | summon or mage portal in that case :) |
| 14:36.55 | fewyn | lol Nestingway 4000 |
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| 14:37.17 | Adirelle|work | no way from darnassus ? |
| 14:37.21 | fewyn | nope |
| 14:37.48 | Adirelle|work | damn |
| 14:37.59 | KriLL3 | well you could try to swim there... |
| 14:38.04 | Adirelle|work | ... |
| 14:38.30 | Pneumatus | you could file a stuck petition if youve got a couple of days to kill |
| 14:39.50 | Adirelle|work | BTW, Quel'Danas is handled by the outland servers, isn't it ? |
| 14:39.59 | KriLL3 | it is |
| 14:40.02 | Odlaw | ah.. found me a nice bug in beta... don't ClickAuctionSellItemButton() if there's something in the auction.. it'll crash your client |
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| 14:40.32 | fewyn | nooooooo |
| 14:40.36 | fewyn | don't slow down on me torrent! |
| 14:40.47 | cncfanatics | hmmm, calderra is down ? |
| 14:40.47 | KriLL3 | login doesn't work atm, no rush |
| 14:42.19 | cncfanatics | bleh, damnit |
| 14:42.27 | cncfanatics | I transfered my druid to beta servers before I got my epic flight |
| 14:42.29 | cncfanatics | anoying |
| 14:42.35 | Odlaw | shit even clicking on an auction by hand screws it up :) |
| 14:42.46 | Pneumatus | copy it again then? |
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| 14:42.56 | cncfanatics | I'm over the copy cap |
| 14:42.58 | cncfanatics | 4 chars is max |
| 14:43.04 | cncfanatics | I coppied all my 4 70s |
| 14:43.13 | KriLL3 | send cash between em |
| 14:43.28 | KriLL3 | my main char got 7k, I copied him 4 times :) |
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| 14:43.58 | cncfanatics | I think most are pretty broke |
| 14:44.05 | Adirelle|work | ok, so I'm really going to get to dalaran and put my stone there... if I even manage to get to nr |
| 14:44.29 | KriLL3 | Adirelle|work: which of the 5 inns |
| 14:44.29 | Adirelle|work | btw, is there any class trainer there ? |
| 14:44.31 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 14:44.34 | KriLL3 | no |
| 14:44.34 | Adirelle|work | ^^ |
| 14:44.43 | fewyn | I got to dalaran |
| 14:44.44 | fewyn | it's nice |
| 14:44.57 | fewyn | I have a mage friend though |
| 14:45.32 | KriLL3 | I paid 10k to get there :) |
| 14:45.40 | fewyn | >_> |
| 14:45.43 | cncfanatics | gold means shit on there anwyay :p |
| 14:45.47 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 14:46.27 | KriLL3 | I wanted a crystallized fire or trigger for that quest but you can't get either on the AH, but you can get em for 5k+ from some players |
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| 14:46.29 | cncfanatics | and bleh, why do I care about my mount ? |
| 14:46.39 | cncfanatics | can't use it anyway |
| 14:47.15 | Hjalte | Anyone using Dominos + Buttonfacade? |
| 14:47.42 | cncfanatics | are items bugged ? |
| 14:47.47 | cncfanatics | I can't seem to sell stuff or change gear |
| 14:48.09 | Lyn_ | Hjalte, on live, yes. |
| 14:48.30 | Fisker- | lagtiems cncfanatics |
| 14:49.03 | Hjalte | Lyn_: Live here as well. I'm experiencing that whenever I use an action, it sort of goes back to how it used to look. |
| 14:49.33 | Lyn_ | oO |
| 14:49.33 | cncfanatics | can't talk to vendor now :( |
| 14:49.44 | Fisker- | why so :( |
| 14:50.38 | Carancu | just give it a while cncfanatics. Atleast you havn't been killed yet while waiting for the lootlag to pass? ;) |
| 14:50.50 | cncfanatics | I'm in shatt :D |
| 14:50.56 | cncfanatics | its pretty, empty |
| 14:50.57 | cncfanatics | feels weird |
| 14:53.10 | Carancu | there is no setting to prevent autoenabling of track humanoids when you shift to cat, is there? |
| 14:53.16 | cncfanatics | I LOVE how all my healing gear can now be used for balance |
| 14:53.34 | cncfanatics | Carancu: if you disable the tracking while in track form i don't think it reactivates |
| 14:53.50 | Carancu | it does... |
| 14:54.08 | Carancu | it even overwrite track fish, I had to try with something. |
| 14:55.52 | Adirelle|work | whatever tracking I use, even if I die, I have track humanoids enabled, |
| 14:56.36 | Adirelle|work | I thought it was some bug due to character copy, but I can't get rid of it |
| 14:57.10 | Odlaw | right click the tracking icon |
| 14:57.13 | Odlaw | it'll get rid of it |
| 14:57.20 | Odlaw | err... |
| 14:57.39 | Odlaw | nm, right click don't work anymore.. try tracking humanoids, then track none? |
| 14:58.01 | Carancu | well, there is no problem chosing another tracking, that work as it should. |
| 14:58.13 | Odlaw | it's just a char copy bug |
| 14:58.25 | Carancu | the problem is, there doesn't seem to be any way to prevent track Humanoids from reactivating every single time I shift to kitty. |
| 14:58.39 | Odlaw | can't track none while in kitty? |
| 14:58.42 | KriLL3 | I like that |
| 14:58.55 | KriLL3 | in kitty I only want to track humanoids |
| 14:59.01 | Carancu | I can, but then I have to chose track none after every shift, that's the annoying thing. |
| 14:59.07 | Odlaw | oh i see |
| 14:59.10 | Odlaw | interesting |
| 14:59.24 | nevcairiel | If i have track herbs then it stays active i ncat |
| 14:59.25 | Carancu | heh, I want to see the map rather than have a red-yellow big circle up in that corner. |
| 14:59.26 | nevcairiel | all other dont |
| 14:59.28 | nevcairiel | for some reason |
| 15:00.08 | Carancu | ... well, it stayed with track herbs, but it activated track humanoids on top of that. |
| 15:00.15 | Carancu | talk about a messy minimap. |
| 15:00.28 | dieck | hm, I got my beta key yesterday, but is playing on beta (eu here) always that laggy? |
| 15:00.37 | KriLL3 | less messy if you remove all stuff you don't need with an addon |
| 15:00.40 | Carancu | it was fine yesterday. |
| 15:01.07 | KriLL3 | dieck: some days are better than others, afternoon on a weekend isn't a good time though |
| 15:01.33 | KriLL3 | early morning working days are the best if your sleep rhythm doesn't mean much to you... |
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| 15:01.51 | Josh_Borke | ~lart nevcairiel |
| 15:01.51 | purl | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in nevcairiel's direction, hitting nevcairiel and sending nevcairiel flying into the closet |
| 15:03.20 | Adirelle|work | nevcairiel: http://ace.pastey.net/94435 - wotlk branch, r80787 |
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| 15:04.30 | cncfanatics | aww, world server just crashed |
| 15:05.35 | KriLL3 | ... how could the pvp gear for ferals not include str, int, hit? |
| 15:05.40 | KriLL3 | just agi, stam, AP, crit, res |
| 15:06.08 | KriLL3 | will be interesting to shift and heal... |
| 15:07.07 | Nimbal | Hm.. is there no easy way to fire an event without a library like LibRockEvent or AceEvent? |
| 15:07.39 | Adirelle|work | Nimbal: "event" like "wow event" or like "internal event" ? |
| 15:08.57 | Nimbal | custom event. I'm writing a library for inventory tracking and would like to fire more informative events than the Blizzard ones |
| 15:09.20 | Adirelle|work | look at CallbackHandler |
| 15:09.27 | cncfanatics | was about to say that |
| 15:09.30 | cncfanatics | CallbackHandler is the handy way |
| 15:10.01 | Nimbal | Thanks! |
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| 15:10.50 | Obelixprime | You're a callback handler! |
| 15:11.00 | *** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> WoWAce Future Plans! http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14316.0 | http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Author Key Give-Aways! http://wow.curseforge.com/announcements/lich-king-beta-author-key-giveaway/ | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17207 | Happy 21st, ckknight |
| 15:11.10 | fewyn | happy birthday ckknight |
| 15:11.17 | ckknight | thank you |
| 15:11.18 | Nimbal | Happy Birthday! |
| 15:11.33 | ckknight | :-) |
| 15:11.49 | Adirelle|work | I'm off, see you later |
| 15:11.56 | Fisker- | wut |
| 15:12.00 | Fisker- | i'm older than you! |
| 15:12.37 | fewyn | i am too |
| 15:13.39 | ckknight | Fisker-: and I'm less of a troll than you |
| 15:14.54 | *** join/#wowace Polarina (n=Polarina@unaffiliated/polarina) |
| 15:14.57 | Fisker- | That's not hard |
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| 15:15.30 | ckknight | precisely. |
| 15:16.33 | fewyn | sigh |
| 15:16.41 | fewyn | onebank isn't working on beta now... |
| 15:16.45 | fewyn | stabs |
| 15:17.19 | Fisker- | backstabs |
| 15:18.30 | Nimbal | I would have backstabbed back |
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| 15:20.29 | ckknight | fewyn: you using v3 or v2? |
| 15:20.54 | fewyn | onebank? i was using the svn copy |
| 15:20.56 | fewyn | up until now |
| 15:21.13 | ckknight | okay |
| 15:21.14 | fewyn | wait |
| 15:21.18 | fewyn | what are we talking about? |
| 15:21.21 | *** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@66.150.230.45) |
| 15:21.28 | ckknight | @project onebag3 |
| 15:21.28 | Repo | ckknight: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 15:21.31 | ckknight | ah, hell |
| 15:21.32 | fewyn | oh |
| 15:21.38 | fewyn | there is a onebag project 3? |
| 15:21.40 | fewyn | did not know |
| 15:21.48 | ckknight | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/onebag3/ |
| 15:21.56 | fewyn | whieeee |
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| 15:22.10 | fewyn | clickies |
| 15:22.15 | Fisker- | so what about onebank and onering |
| 15:22.18 | Fisker- | are they combined? |
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| 15:22.30 | ckknight | @project onebag3 |
| 15:22.41 | Repo | ckknight: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/onebag3/. OneBag3. Game: WoW. Leader: Kaelten. Updated: 35 hours ago |
| 15:22.45 | ckknight | there we go |
| 15:22.47 | Tobi | can someone help me with my code? |
| 15:22.58 | ckknight | Tobi: what's the issue? |
| 15:23.09 | ckknight | also, |
| 15:23.11 | ckknight | ~asktoask |
| 15:23.11 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 15:23.32 | Tobi | kk:P |
| 15:25.39 | Tobi | i want some code automatic executed after 30 seconds |
| 15:26.02 | cncfanatics | you'll have to use OnUpdate |
| 15:26.05 | cncfanatics | or a timer library |
| 15:26.35 | Tobi | function xyz:PARTY_INVITE_REQUEST() |
| 15:26.36 | Tobi | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:26.38 | Tobi | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:26.41 | Tobi | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:26.42 | Tobi | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:26.44 | Tobi | end |
| 15:26.46 | ckknight | please use pastey. |
| 15:26.47 | cncfanatics | do NOT PASTE HERE |
| 15:27.02 | Tobi | ? |
| 15:27.14 | cncfanatics | don't ever paste on irc please, it spams a lot and might get you kicked |
| 15:27.15 | Tobi | ah ok i see |
| 15:27.17 | fewyn | seems they redid vehicle controls or something |
| 15:27.19 | Josh_Borke | local f = CreateFrame("Frame"); local runIn = 30, f:SetScript("OnUpdate", function(self, elapsed) runIn = runIn - elapsed; if runIn <= 0 then <do code> end end) |
| 15:27.21 | cncfanatics | if you want to show us code use www.pastey.net |
| 15:28.47 | Tobi | i tried self:ScheduleEvent(LeaveParty(), 30) |
| 15:29.25 | ckknight | Tobi: that's not how lua works |
| 15:29.34 | ckknight | Tobi: what you're doing is calling LeaveParty() right away |
| 15:29.40 | ckknight | you want to pass the function in, not the result of it |
| 15:29.49 | ckknight | so you'd do self:ScheduleEvent(LeaveParty, 30) |
| 15:29.50 | Funkeh` | self:ScheduleEvent(LeaveParty, 30) |
| 15:29.55 | Funkeh` | ^ |
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| 15:30.14 | Tobi | mhh |
| 15:31.16 | Nimbal | Could it be that the CallbackHandler doc at http://www.wowace.com/wiki/CallbackHandler-1.0 is outdated? It doesn't seem to add lib:RegisterEvent to my library. That's fine, I used a frame before, but maybe I am doing something wrong? |
| 15:31.31 | ckknight | pastey your code, Nimbal |
| 15:32.23 | cncfanatics | hmmmm, I can only find one zeppelin to northrend for horde |
| 15:32.26 | cncfanatics | where's the othero ne ? |
| 15:32.34 | cncfanatics | (I'm at the one in UC to vengeance ) |
| 15:32.39 | Tobi | ok this was working ^^ |
| 15:32.47 | Nimbal | http://www.pastey.net/94439 |
| 15:32.54 | Breeze | cncfanatics, there's one outside orgrimmar |
| 15:33.04 | Nimbal | errors out on line 10, RegisterEvent is nil |
| 15:33.19 | cncfanatics | Breeze: where exactly ? couldn't find the tower |
| 15:33.19 | Breeze | cncfanatics, at your right hand when you leave org |
| 15:33.32 | cncfanatics | hmmm, thats the oposite direction of the old tower ? |
| 15:33.36 | Breeze | Yes |
| 15:33.53 | cncfanatics | oki |
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| 15:38.20 | njal | hmm.. the only way to determine if I'm currently in a GCD is using GetSpellCooldown('Some Spell')? and finding a good spell to use for GetSpellCooldown varies between classes (and professions)? |
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| 15:39.55 | ckknight | oh, also, if anyone is up for exploring Northrend and runs Cartographer 2 or 3, please email me (ckknight at gmail) your saved variables, so that I can get foglight up to date. |
| 15:40.51 | Nimbal | Ah, wait. The RegisterEvent method is for users of the library, right? So instead of calling someFrame:RegisterEvent("LibBaggage_InventoryChanged") the user would have to call libBaggage.RegisterEvent(myAddon, "LibBaggage_InventoryChanged")? |
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| 15:44.10 | KriLL3 | anyone knows how to get into the pvp zone? |
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| 15:56.14 | p3lim | just me or is the coldarra login server really fucked up right now? |
| 15:56.29 | Adirelle | not just the auth server |
| 15:56.48 | Odlaw | is wowhead down for anyone else? |
| 15:57.01 | dieck | Odlaw: wh down here too |
| 15:57.16 | Odlaw | k, thought i fucked up my firewall rules |
| 15:57.20 | dieck | and yes, the beta servers are altogether a lazy bunch today :) |
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| 15:59.36 | Polarina | p3lim: It takes some patience. |
| 16:00.55 | thul | http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs32/i/2008/235/1/a/Avilable_Light_by_cainadamsson.jpg <- portrait of the day |
| 16:02.33 | Funkeh` | Mace Specialization (Combat) no longer stuns enemies, and instead increases critical damage bonus by 2/4/6/8/10%. |
| 16:03.36 | Funkeh` | moar nerf plix |
| 16:06.30 | Tentacled | hah, that's logical. Why would a heavy object swung at high speeds cause stunning. |
| 16:08.01 | ckknight | thul: nice photo |
| 16:08.33 | Stanzilla | throws a cake at ckknight |
| 16:08.42 | ckknight | none for me, thanks |
| 16:08.44 | Funkeh` | Tentacled, tell that to warriors |
| 16:08.47 | thul | ckknight: thank you :-) |
| 16:08.52 | Fisker- | hey Stanzilla :( |
| 16:08.56 | Fisker- | I baked ckknight a cake too! |
| 16:09.01 | Tentacled | Funkeh`: irony anyone :> |
| 16:09.01 | Fisker- | (i ated it, etc) |
| 16:09.07 | ckknight | pretty sure your cake's a lie |
| 16:09.25 | Chompers | eaugh, really ckk |
| 16:09.31 | Chompers | you went THERE? |
| 16:09.33 | Tentacled | teh caek is a lei! |
| 16:09.34 | ckknight | lol, Chompers |
| 16:09.56 | Stanzilla | Fisker-: :/ |
| 16:10.09 | Stanzilla | mine had a cherry on top! |
| 16:11.10 | Funkeh` | Mace specialization changed, it now gives your melee attacks a chance to generate 10 rage when using a Mace. |
| 16:11.14 | Funkeh` | they changed it for warriors too |
| 16:11.16 | Funkeh` | good |
| 16:12.07 | nevcairiel | no stun anymore? yay |
| 16:13.04 | Funkeh` | Trueshot Aura affects the whole raid now. |
| 16:13.07 | Funkeh` | nice |
| 16:13.12 | Chompers | i shall miss blood frenzy spec :< |
| 16:13.47 | Funkeh` | Disengage now leaps the Hunter backwards up to 13 yards. 30 second cooldown. Disengage now also only has one rank (rank 1). |
| 16:13.54 | Funkeh` | sounds like people might use this now? |
| 16:14.04 | kappaccino | what is it? |
| 16:14.05 | Funkeh` | it wasn't even on my hunters bars |
| 16:14.11 | kappaccino | some kind of hunter move that creates space? |
| 16:14.20 | Funkeh` | creates space, lol |
| 16:14.24 | nevcairiel | now you jump 13 yards backwards |
| 16:14.30 | Dark_Elf | wishes blizzard would lower the cooldown on health potions 3 minutes is too darn long |
| 16:14.35 | kappaccino | ._. |
| 16:14.40 | Funkeh` | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=781 |
| 16:14.55 | Gnarfoz | Dark_Elf: uhm... it's 2 minutes? |
| 16:15.15 | kappaccino | oh |
| 16:15.18 | Chompers | why lower it, make pots unnecesary instead |
| 16:15.18 | Dark_Elf | well 2 minutes is too long too :p |
| 16:15.21 | kappaccino | so it's like feign death 2.0 ? |
| 16:15.27 | kappaccino | without the dying part |
| 16:15.35 | Gnarfoz | no it's not |
| 16:15.37 | Chompers | have passive regen on all gear |
| 16:15.39 | Gnarfoz | it's feint |
| 16:15.48 | Gnarfoz | or rather, a bad copy of Feint |
| 16:15.50 | Carancu | and a rather bad one at that. |
| 16:15.59 | kappaccino | but it says you disengage from combat |
| 16:16.05 | kappaccino | meaning it lets you drink |
| 16:16.09 | Carancu | no |
| 16:16.09 | nevcairiel | thats just a description |
| 16:16.13 | nevcairiel | but it doesnt |
| 16:16.16 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 16:16.17 | nevcairiel | just lowers your threat |
| 16:16.17 | kappaccino | oh ok |
| 16:16.21 | Gnarfoz | it "exits combat mode" |
| 16:16.22 | Funkeh` | it's useless |
| 16:16.23 | nevcairiel | (and now brings you on range too) |
| 16:16.25 | Gnarfoz | meaning: turns of auto-attack |
| 16:16.29 | Funkeh` | considering a hunter should never really be in melee range |
| 16:16.31 | Gnarfoz | *off |
| 16:16.39 | Gnarfoz | melee huntards, ho! |
| 16:17.09 | Carancu | hey, it was "useable" on Vem and co! |
| 16:17.50 | nevcairiel | vem? thats like so last year |
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| 16:19.46 | nevcairiel | Hunters have feign-death, why do they need disengage anywa |
| 16:19.47 | thul | ok, I officially hate my keyboard. |
| 16:20.00 | AKX | EU beta is being delightfully laggy right now. |
| 16:21.43 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: actually, that's 2 years ago :X |
| 16:21.53 | nevcairiel | ya i know |
| 16:21.58 | nevcairiel | but it sounds not so funny |
| 16:22.15 | kappaccino | c'thun best fight ever |
| 16:22.23 | nevcairiel | truth |
| 16:22.31 | fewyn | i never got that far :( |
| 16:22.31 | Gnarfoz | @topic, is that 21st of August or happy birthday ckknight? :D |
| 16:22.34 | kappaccino | raid leader shouts, " WHO DIED TO THE EYE BEAM " |
| 16:22.35 | fewyn | we focused on naxx instead |
| 16:22.42 | ckknight | 22nd, Gnarfoz |
| 16:22.51 | Gnarfoz | the latter then ;> |
| 16:23.04 | kappaccino | and we only got 1 tentacle trinket |
| 16:23.21 | kappaccino | no meteors :( |
| 16:23.48 | Tentacled | waves his tentacles? |
| 16:25.07 | CIA-47 | 03elkano 07WotLK * r80808 10ElkBuffBars/ (EBB_Bar.lua ElkBuffBars.lua): |
| 16:25.07 | CIA-47 | ElkBuffBars |
| 16:25.07 | CIA-47 | - first bunch of fixes for 8820 |
| 16:25.07 | CIA-47 | - canceling of buffs isn't working due to changed and blocked API :/ |
| 16:25.11 | japanese_schoolg | iiiiiiiiiyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 16:25.17 | japanese_schoolg | hentai ja nai |
| 16:25.38 | Elkano | nan desu ka. |
| 16:25.39 | Stanzilla | O_O |
| 16:26.00 | Funkeh` | seems like they made a new frame for focus in latest build |
| 16:26.22 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 16:27.17 | Tentacled | nani-mo... kono onna-no-ko-wo chikan-shimasen deshita. |
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| 16:28.05 | Funkeh` | +LOCK_FOCUS_FRAME = "Lock Frame Position"; and movable? |
| 16:28.37 | Funkeh` | +OPTION_TOOLTIP_ENABLE_SOFTWARE_HRTF = "Enables software emulation for headphone surround sound."; O.o |
| 16:28.54 | Funkeh` | oops |
| 16:28.56 | Funkeh` | weong one |
| 16:28.58 | Funkeh` | +OPTION_TOOLTIP_ENABLE_DSP_EFFECTS = "Enables special voice modulation effects for Death Knights."; |
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| 16:29.15 | Zyndrome | but there is iiiiiiiiiiiit :C |
| 16:29.18 | Zyndrome | where* |
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| 16:29.26 | Tentacled | all races are supposed to have voice modulation, aren't they? in 3.0? |
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| 16:29.34 | chaud | there are some new voices for DKs in the files |
| 16:29.35 | Tentacled | or at least, different voice sets |
| 16:29.37 | ckknight | voice modulation? |
| 16:29.39 | chaud | scary voices |
| 16:29.57 | Tentacled | unleeeess they mean something evil plugged into voice chats... :> |
| 16:30.04 | Funkeh` | Like the deep "kill them all" stuff? |
| 16:30.27 | Tentacled | now that would be kinda neat, if they finally pulled off the voicechat stuff, with modulation. |
| 16:31.27 | Xuerian | Funkeh`: Ooowtf? voice mods? |
| 16:31.44 | Tentacled | s/neat/cheesy/ |
| 16:31.54 | Funkeh` | I'm guessing it's of emotes? |
| 16:31.57 | Funkeh` | for* |
| 16:32.18 | Funkeh` | to make the standard voics sound more DK ish |
| 16:32.24 | Funkeh` | voices* |
| 16:32.35 | kappaccino` | how does one sound like an DK ? |
| 16:32.49 | Tentacled | think darth vader. |
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| 16:33.37 | fewyn | ew |
| 16:33.43 | fewyn | i wonder if i can turn off the glow in onebag3 |
| 16:33.43 | ckknight | Luke, Come Over Here! |
| 16:33.52 | ckknight | Death Grips |
| 16:34.08 | fewyn | @project onebag3 |
| 16:34.08 | Repo | fewyn: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/onebag3/. OneBag3. Game: WoW. Leader: Kaelten. Updated: 36 hours ago |
| 16:34.24 | fewyn | that's cool |
| 16:34.33 | ckknight | what's cool? |
| 16:34.40 | ckknight | the Repo bot I made? |
| 16:34.45 | fewyn | yea |
| 16:34.50 | ckknight | yea, you can get tickets as well |
| 16:34.54 | ckknight | @ticket cartographer3 100 |
| 16:34.54 | Repo | ckknight: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/tickets/100-cartographer-3-not-compatible-with-patch-2-4-3/. 100 - Cartographer 3 not compatible with patch 2.4.3. Reported by: dbonner. Type: Defect. Updated: 37 days ago. Status: Invalid. Priority: Medium. Assignee: ckknight. Votes: +3. Comments: 2 |
| 16:35.08 | Trell- | thats awesome |
| 16:35.10 | fewyn | the glow on onebag3 on the items is kinda annoying |
| 16:35.19 | ckknight | also, it acts like a CIA bot |
| 16:35.30 | ckknight | it won't spit out to here, though, since the wowace site isn't up |
| 16:35.43 | ckknight | so it just spits out to #WARUIDev, #WoWUIDev-commits, and #curseforge |
| 16:35.45 | Funkeh` | hmm |
| 16:35.51 | Funkeh` | wipe function in latest build |
| 16:35.54 | Funkeh` | interesting |
| 16:38.16 | fewyn | hmmm |
| 16:38.27 | fewyn | curseforge is actually rather simple to use to post bugs and such |
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| 16:41.10 | ckknight | fewyn: that's the idea. If you have any suggestions, though, feel free to post a ticket on the curseforge project |
| 16:41.51 | dodga | I hate IRAD. Everybody working on IRAD and WebSphere at IBM should burn in hell eternally! |
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| 16:42.34 | fewyn | Very simple, I like it. |
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| 16:45.09 | Neo|Other | last night was a trial of frustration |
| 16:45.26 | Neo|Other | muru all night. like 2 phase 2 attempts, one of them our best so far (50%) |
| 16:48.04 | Chompers | do you split the raid into 4 groups for p2? |
| 16:48.11 | Chompers | i hear that works really well |
| 16:50.38 | Neo|Other | we've had "real" phase 2 4 times |
| 16:50.40 | AckisWork | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14782.0 and http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14781.0 if anyone feels like responding for me |
| 16:50.43 | Neo|Other | in >2 months |
| 16:51.04 | fewyn | does responding mean taking a shot gun and shooting a head off? |
| 16:51.20 | fewyn | or does it mean actually knowing lua>? |
| 16:52.06 | AckisWork | means knowing lua ;) |
| 16:52.19 | fewyn | then i can't help! sorry! |
| 16:52.40 | fewyn | ooo mmo-champion has cot: strat drops now! |
| 16:52.42 | fewyn | awesome |
| 16:52.45 | fewyn | looks through them |
| 16:53.00 | Bibi` | I heard the guy behind MMO-Champion is awesome too |
| 16:53.08 | Stanzilla | lies |
| 16:53.26 | fewyn | boo |
| 16:53.29 | fewyn | no feral weapons |
| 16:53.30 | Xuerian | AckisWork: Shot in the dark here, but tooltip:SetOwner() and CursorUpdate(Self) ? |
| 16:53.35 | Neo|Other | Bibi`: man I heard the opposite! |
| 16:53.44 | fewyn | i hope i don't get stuck having to grind to exalted for my tanking weapon again |
| 16:53.55 | AckisWork | Xuerian: worth a shot I'll have to play with it when I get home |
| 16:54.06 | AckisWork | Bibi: do you know chaud/ |
| 16:54.12 | Neo|Other | Bibi: that said, tip my head to you since MMO seems to be updating at a faster pace than WoR these days |
| 16:54.54 | Bibi | these days being the last 15 months, right ? |
| 16:55.31 | Neo|Other | Bibi: WotLK in general |
| 16:55.36 | Neo|Other | my memory doesn't go back 15 months |
| 16:55.43 | cladhaire | its always been faster |
| 16:55.53 | Neo|Other | cladhaire: not always accurate however |
| 16:56.05 | Neo|Other | cladhaire: and WoR has had information in the past, mmo did not have |
| 16:56.10 | Neo|Other | so always is not always true |
| 16:56.13 | cladhaire | *nod* it happens |
| 16:56.20 | cladhaire | and they've also blatantly stolen information, from my perspectice :P |
| 16:56.33 | cladhaire | spelled correctly, normally |
| 16:56.43 | Bibi | Neo|Other proof or didn't happen. |
| 16:56.55 | cladhaire | This warrior.. shouts and refuses to even tab to the second mob on a pair of two.. until he has 3 sunders up |
| 16:57.07 | Trell- | mmoc has me writing addon reviews for them, which means they win the internetz. |
| 16:57.18 | kappaccino` | OoOoOO http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/flash/WAR_cinematic_08.html |
| 16:57.19 | cladhaire | some people |
| 16:57.24 | Trell- | plsu Bibi blames me for anything that goes wrong. ever. |
| 16:57.28 | Trell- | *plus |
| 16:57.36 | cladhaire | well its your fault, clearly |
| 16:57.45 | cladhaire | its no wonder he blames you |
| 16:57.55 | CIA-47 | 03ackis * r80809 10WelfareEpics/ (3 files): |
| 16:57.55 | CIA-47 | WelfareEpics: |
| 16:57.55 | CIA-47 | - Add new merchant frames for comparison sake, not a damn thing has changed however. |
| 16:57.55 | CIA-47 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
| 16:57.55 | CIA-47 | ~lart cladhaire |
| 16:57.55 | purl | holds cladhaire to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails |
| 16:58.39 | kappaccino` | cool cinematic is cool |
| 17:00.37 | Pneumatus | ~seen Nymbia |
| 17:00.39 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@c-67-190-49-185.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 20h 53m 9s ago, saying: 'yo'. |
| 17:01.27 | chaud | Trell- cant even keep his movies online, dont trust a thing he has to say =o |
| 17:01.35 | thul | oh man I have missed being a subts rogue |
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| 17:09.18 | cncfanatics | hmmm, is calderra world server down ? |
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| 17:11.53 | CIA-47 | 03ackis * r80810 10Collectinator/Collectinator.lua: |
| 17:11.53 | CIA-47 | Collectinator: |
| 17:11.53 | CIA-47 | - Add COMPANION_LEARNED event and as a result mix-in AceEvent3 |
| 17:11.53 | CIA-47 | - Once I know the arguments for this event I'll have it automagically update the checklist with the pet you've learnt. Maybe we can expand that to loot as well once that's implemented? |
| 17:11.53 | CIA-47 | - Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p) |
| 17:11.53 | seracht | hi. http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd26/Kussie666/WoW/WoWScrnShot_052008_205410.jpg does anyone know what buf bars those are |
| 17:12.18 | kappaccino` | lich king cinematic is out? wooow |
| 17:12.21 | kappaccino` | is slowpoke |
| 17:12.25 | seracht | been a while :P |
| 17:12.25 | seracht | lol |
| 17:13.23 | Keias | Not sure which exactly those are, but you can do similar with Satrina's Buff frames and ButtonFacade |
| 17:14.48 | seracht | hmm i'll try satrinas |
| 17:14.50 | seracht | I love those unit frames too |
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| 17:18.03 | fewyn | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/a_new_captcha_approach.png |
| 17:18.30 | Polarina | xD |
| 17:21.31 | CIA-47 | 03ackis * r80811 10WelfareEpics/WelfareEpics.lua: |
| 17:21.31 | CIA-47 | WelfareEpics: |
| 17:21.31 | CIA-47 | - Added a GameTooltip:Show() to see if it works... |
| 17:21.31 | CIA-47 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
| 17:22.30 | fewyn | WelfareEpics? |
| 17:23.01 | fewyn | interesting |
| 17:23.36 | fewyn | just reading stuff in here makes me find interesting addons |
| 17:25.12 | seracht | with pitbull, how can you make all the text capitals? |
| 17:25.28 | AckisWork | fewyn: it's in alpha |
| 17:25.55 | Primer | sigh |
| 17:26.03 | Primer | I can't update WotLK at all |
| 17:26.17 | Primer | every updater claims there's a problem with "patch.mpq" |
| 17:26.32 | Primer | Even after installing fresh, and onto a different hard drive |
| 17:26.34 | fewyn | yes so =p |
| 17:26.41 | fewyn | i like alpha stuff AckisWork! |
| 17:26.45 | Neo|Other | so I noticed they released all these jewelcrafting stuff ... without stats |
| 17:27.14 | fewyn | i'm missing 19 quests in dragonblight |
| 17:27.20 | fewyn | i just found the goblin camp |
| 17:27.46 | fewyn | and i know i skipped 3 wanted poster quests |
| 17:29.11 | Primer | sigh, it must be something with my box... |
| 17:30.16 | Primer | The WotLK "repair" option is repairing WoW... |
| 17:30.20 | Primer | GOOD JOB!!!! |
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| 17:30.35 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 17:32.33 | AckisWork | Tekkub |
| 17:32.40 | AckisWork | how are you this fine day? |
| 17:33.14 | Tekkub | well I got woken up half an hour ago by the maint man |
| 17:33.14 | AckisWork | oh fun |
| 17:33.16 | Tekkub | and then he installed my new AC |
| 17:33.21 | Tekkub | so you tell me |
| 17:33.29 | AckisWork | new AC = good |
| 17:34.06 | Tekkub | they coulda thrown an extra 5kBTUs at it since I'm in a 2BR apt, but it's still more powerful that I'd expected |
| 17:34.17 | Tekkub | I was expecting a $100 5kBTU things |
| 17:35.29 | Primer | What's the latest version of WotLK? |
| 17:35.47 | dieck | 3.0.1 8820 today |
| 17:35.56 | dieck | I'm just at the login screen :) |
| 17:36.08 | AckisWork | Tekkub: I figured you might have something like this: a mod that lets you open up mutliple tooltips and works with wrath |
| 17:36.52 | Pneumatus | is it save to commit dataminer runs to PT-3.1, or should I try and contact Nymbia with diffs? |
| 17:36.56 | Tekkub | make multiply frames and open them? I only use a single tooltip at any given time |
| 17:37.01 | Pneumatus | s/save/safe/ |
| 17:37.18 | AckisWork | ahh ok wasn't sure |
| 17:37.38 | dieck | Pneumatus: I'd say to commit IS save, but I don't know if it's safe :) |
| 17:38.00 | Primer | thanks |
| 17:38.02 | Primer | same error |
| 17:38.37 | dieck | are the eu beta auth servers down again? |
| 17:38.45 | seracht | does pitbull have some spacing issues with power/health bars? |
| 17:38.52 | seracht | I can't seem to add padding to them |
| 17:39.07 | Primer | I really hate windows |
| 17:39.21 | Polarina | Primer: :D |
| 17:39.24 | Primer | I have a feeling there's some sort of drive or controller error, yet windows never reports anything |
| 17:39.50 | Primer | so I'm running cygwin's md5sum.exe on patch.mpq |
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| 17:40.40 | Primer | but since this isn't an updated file, no one's going to have the same version, so md5sum'ing it is futile... |
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| 17:42.39 | Vangual | if you suspect one of those components you mentioned then checksumming isn't necessarily futile |
| 17:43.00 | Vangual | just keep checksumming it over and over and if it ends up different just once, bam :) |
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| 17:44.33 | Obelixprime | level 80 eh |
| 17:44.38 | Obelixprime | i guess i better get levelling |
| 17:45.04 | seracht | ah!!! I hate this |
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| 17:48.05 | dieck | Coldarra offline again... |
| 17:48.21 | Primer | Vangual: yeah, good idea |
| 17:49.57 | Polarina | I had 42 talent points, and when I logged in I had 20, the quests I've done got "undone" except one where I return to Ebon Hold, experience too. |
| 17:49.59 | Polarina | Annoying. |
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| 17:50.30 | dieck | ask me. I gathered some herbs to try Inscriptions :) |
| 17:50.44 | dieck | now the herbs were gone, and the nodes too. |
| 17:50.59 | Polarina | But all gear from quests reward didn't get undone along with the quests. Odd. |
| 17:51.03 | dodga | they see u gatherin, they hatin... :> |
| 17:52.06 | Primer | Blizz needs to call this "alpha" |
| 17:52.18 | Polarina | couldn't agree any more on that. |
| 17:52.32 | Primer | Because "beta" implies "feature complete", which WoTLK is so obviously far-from... |
| 17:52.58 | Primer | And all these people thinking it's gonna be ready around November...HAH! |
| 17:53.06 | Primer | So unlikely... |
| 17:53.18 | Polarina | I was just about to say that.. |
| 17:53.39 | Polarina | s/about/about going/ |
| 17:54.47 | Polarina | This authenticating process is so slow that this thing is really un-testable. |
| 17:54.59 | Xuerian | Would you like some cheese, Polarina? |
| 17:55.12 | Polarina | Xuerian: I just ate something. |
| 17:55.20 | Polarina | Xuerian: No, thanks. |
| 17:55.21 | Polarina | :) |
| 17:55.22 | Seerah|away | hehe |
| 17:55.38 | Xuerian | ;) |
| 17:55.52 | Seerah | <3 X |
| 17:56.04 | Polarina | Xuerian: I just ate that stolen... Oh wait, it was your cheese. |
| 17:56.13 | Xuerian | Xinhuan: She loves us! |
| 17:56.23 | Xinhuan | what? |
| 17:56.31 | Seerah | <3 X & X |
| 17:56.31 | Seerah | :P |
| 17:56.36 | Xinhuan | ahah |
| 17:56.36 | Xuerian | ^ :p |
| 17:57.18 | Xuerian | Polarina: Ahhah. That would make sense, as I drank my whine without any cheese last night, when the new warrior talents hit. |
| 17:57.41 | Polarina | Too bad Death Knights have a talent named Dirge. |
| 17:57.45 | Guest67152 | is it possible to check how much gold is in trade window? |
| 18:01.00 | Vulcanus | look at the number |
| 18:02.28 | CIA-47 | 03ackis * r80812 10AckisRecipeList/ (7 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 18:02.28 | CIA-47 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:02.28 | CIA-47 | - Added four new localizations: |
| 18:02.28 | CIA-47 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:02.28 | CIA-47 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:02.29 | CIA-47 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:02.31 | CIA-47 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:04.27 | CIA-47 | 03ackis * r80813 10AckisRecipeList/ARLFrame.lua: |
| 18:04.27 | CIA-47 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:04.27 | CIA-47 | - Fixed a minor typo |
| 18:04.27 | CIA-47 | - Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p) |
| 18:04.30 | CIA-47 | 03mukha521 * r80814 10Aloft/Modules/Visibility.lua: |
| 18:04.30 | CIA-47 | Aloft: |
| 18:04.31 | CIA-47 | - Critter visibility fix for ruRU locale |
| 18:08.11 | Primer | Man, I heard they were adding a cooldown to circle of healing, but I didn't believe it...6 fucking seconds! |
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| 18:08.29 | Primer | How do they expect me to top healing meters!?! |
| 18:09.00 | AckisWork | ... |
| 18:09.09 | NivFreak | Primer: yea, it's lame =/ |
| 18:09.15 | Primer | That's total bullshit |
| 18:09.27 | Primer | I mean, fuck, increase the aggro for CoH |
| 18:09.32 | NivFreak | no |
| 18:09.34 | Primer | but don't give it a fucking CD! |
| 18:09.35 | NivFreak | please god no |
| 18:09.39 | AckisWork | no, that you rely on CoH for most of your healing makes me facepalm :P |
| 18:09.42 | Primer | that I could deal with |
| 18:09.50 | Primer | AckisWork: Nah'Jentus? |
| 18:09.50 | NivFreak | AckisWork: you can't |
| 18:09.54 | Primer | Melee group...? |
| 18:09.56 | Primer | helloooo |
| 18:10.07 | Primer | best fucking healing spell for a raid healing priest |
| 18:10.07 | NivFreak | we use a ton of CoH on bloodboil and najentus |
| 18:10.16 | NivFreak | but other than that, it's situational often ;) |
| 18:10.23 | AckisWork | ... |
| 18:10.28 | NivFreak | (kidding) |
| 18:10.29 | AckisWork | renew > CoH for those fights |
| 18:10.29 | NivFreak | :P |
| 18:10.31 | Primer | AckisWork: you're doing it wrong then |
| 18:10.37 | Primer | hahaha |
| 18:10.39 | Primer | noob |
| 18:10.48 | AckisWork | I'm doing it wrong when I'm #1 healing after killing KJ... yah sure |
| 18:11.11 | Primer | then you're not on raid healing |
| 18:11.18 | AckisWork | no, I am |
| 18:11.27 | AckisWork | you just don't know how to play a priest |
| 18:11.29 | Primer | Then you're doing it wrong |
| 18:11.37 | AckisWork | it's not "facepalm roll head on coh" |
| 18:11.40 | dodga | CoH+Ribbon of Sacrifice = Fun times ;> |
| 18:12.26 | NivFreak | + eye of gruul |
| 18:12.29 | AckisWork | CoH is too limited right now, it's very situational |
| 18:12.41 | Primer | I'll give you that |
| 18:12.46 | NivFreak | it is, but with proper planning it's amazing |
| 18:12.53 | Primer | but in those situations, it's invaluable |
| 18:12.57 | NivFreak | yea |
| 18:13.04 | fewyn | Zeksie: You there? |
| 18:13.08 | NivFreak | it's amazing on mother |
| 18:13.09 | AckisWork | illidan P2, Felmyst encaps, and muru P2 when I'm on the right group are the *only* times I've ever spammed CoH |
| 18:13.18 | NivFreak | when someone FAs into the raid |
| 18:13.43 | Obelixprime | How about when the Flames get to the Stanley cup finals.. |
| 18:13.47 | Obelixprime | do you spam CoH then? |
| 18:13.57 | AckisWork | flames suck ass |
| 18:14.03 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 18:14.09 | Obelixprime | Jerome Iginla though |
| 18:14.16 | Primer | Anyhow, I've only been to 4/9 BT, so I'm a noob, I'll confess |
| 18:14.39 | Pneumatus | ( dodga ) CoH+Ribbon of Sacrifice = Fun times ;> |
| 18:14.42 | AckisWork | Primer: my suggestion: try to keep CoH around 20%ish and use renews a lot more |
| 18:14.43 | Pneumatus | quoting dis |
| 18:14.55 | AckisWork | and keep PoM up |
| 18:14.59 | Primer | but in the fights where we have a melee group eating it, and we have no resto shams, CoH is what I use |
| 18:15.06 | Primer | PoM is always up |
| 18:15.14 | Primer | as the CD comes up, it goes out |
| 18:15.37 | Thrae | http://i37.tinypic.com/2wnsp6w.jpg |
| 18:15.48 | AckisWork | why renew is better? heals for the same amount as CoH per tick, and gives you extra GCD's for group healing |
| 18:16.09 | NivFreak | renew is better in a situation where it'll tick out and the person won't die before it finishes ;) |
| 18:16.37 | NivFreak | but otherwise, it's hard to beat CoH with a proper planned positioning and trinets etc ;) |
| 18:16.51 | AckisWork | which if you're raid healing they should NEVER be below 1k health :P |
| 18:17.02 | Pneumatus | renew at bloodboil for example will fail on its ass |
| 18:17.08 | Pneumatus | but CoH rocks, hard. |
| 18:17.09 | Primer | except it's single target, which of course you know...I'm just saying, in a situation (yes, situational) where a melee group goes to 10% HP, and you need to get them all back up ASAP, CoH is where it's at |
| 18:17.26 | NivFreak | Pneumatus: our priests use both to get the job done |
| 18:17.32 | AckisWork | 5 renews on a group, keep a pom, and boom gtg |
| 18:17.33 | Primer | especially when you do have other aoe healers |
| 18:17.38 | Primer | dude |
| 18:17.44 | Primer | 5 renews == 5 GCDs |
| 18:17.51 | Pneumatus | 5 gcds = dead clothies |
| 18:18.01 | AckisWork | and then you're GCD free for how long? :P |
| 18:18.02 | Pneumatus | if 1 priest is responsible for keeping a group alive, people will die |
| 18:18.11 | Pneumatus | using just renews, i mean |
| 18:18.23 | NivFreak | we leave one CoH priest on bloodboil healing during phase 2 |
| 18:18.25 | Pneumatus | even with 2500 +heal they dont tick enough to counter bloodboil |
| 18:18.28 | AckisWork | there's not going to be a single dead clothy with 5 gcd's used |
| 18:18.33 | *** join/#wowace KriLL3 (i=KriLL3@unaffiliated/krill3) |
| 18:18.36 | NivFreak | Pneumatus: huh? |
| 18:18.43 | NivFreak | renew out ticks bloodboil last I checked |
| 18:18.48 | NivFreak | even with 2000 healing |
| 18:18.49 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 18:18.52 | NivFreak | not two stacks maybe |
| 18:19.05 | Pneumatus | 1 stack of bloodboil is 800 damage per second |
| 18:19.10 | Primer | My raid leader kept having me spec for imp DS for Hyjal/BT. Our AOE healers are 2 priests (but with me as imp DS, count me out, so it's 1) a resto sham, and several pallies |
| 18:19.10 | Pneumatus | renew doesnt tick for that much |
| 18:19.11 | AckisWork | anyways why is fish slow? |
| 18:19.28 | Primer | And Nah'jentus was a fucking wipe-fest |
| 18:19.31 | Obelixprime | Whoever was talking about doing bear runs on alts last night... well, I tried it last night and we got it done with 3 minutes left |
| 18:19.31 | Fisker- | 1 stack of bloodboil is 600 isn' it? |
| 18:19.37 | Primer | since our group isn't that greatly geared |
| 18:19.38 | KriLL3 | is it even possible to get to the PVP area? I've tried the borders around it from other zones and I only find unpassable mountains |
| 18:19.44 | Arrowmaster | AckisWork: fish is always slow |
| 18:19.49 | Primer | anyhow, I told him "I'm spec'ing CoH, fuck DS" |
| 18:19.54 | Primer | he was pissed |
| 18:20.01 | NivFreak | we never bring a DS priest anymore |
| 18:20.08 | Primer | but when we started to consistently one-shot Nah'Jentus, he saw the light |
| 18:20.15 | NivFreak | I have 3xresto shaman, 3xcoh priest |
| 18:20.17 | Pneumatus | sorry, it is 600 per sec |
| 18:20.26 | NivFreak | Pneumatus: right |
| 18:20.33 | NivFreak | and renew ticks for like 750 with 2K healing |
| 18:20.37 | NivFreak | iirc |
| 18:20.46 | Pneumatus | renew doesnt tick every second though, does it |
| 18:20.59 | Primer | yeah, my renews tick for about 900 with 2400 healing |
| 18:21.01 | Pneumatus | it ticks every 3 seconds, for about 1k |
| 18:21.15 | Pneumatus | 600*3 < 1000 |
| 18:21.16 | Primer | so do the math |
| 18:21.32 | cncfanatics | anyone in EU beta able to connect ? |
| 18:21.41 | NivFreak | I can't speak for pure renew healing, like I said, my priests use both to deal with it |
| 18:21.46 | Primer | 5 GCDs for renew, where the last few guys get nothing til you're at least 7 seconds in |
| 18:21.57 | Primer | or 1000 heals on all party members every second |
| 18:22.01 | fewyn | Fewyn has earned the achievement [Might of Dragonblight]! |
| 18:22.02 | fewyn | yay |
| 18:22.04 | Primer | presuming you can survive the aggro |
| 18:22.08 | fewyn | i feel like i accomplished somethnig today |
| 18:22.17 | Primer | I've had CoH crit for 2500 |
| 18:22.27 | Primer | don't see that with renew |
| 18:22.59 | Primer | Anyhow, CoH gimp is pissing me off |
| 18:23.06 | Primer | it's bad |
| 18:23.12 | NivFreak | did they do the same thing to chain heal? |
| 18:23.24 | Pneumatus | my CoH hits for around 1400, crits for 2200ish, so i just need to hit it every 3 seconds on bloodboil to keep a group alive |
| 18:23.24 | Primer | If they did, then it's terribad |
| 18:23.26 | Fisker- | what gimp? |
| 18:23.37 | Primer | Fisker-: 6s CD |
| 18:23.38 | NivFreak | I'm not really sure I care for wrath, I assume fights will be adjusted |
| 18:23.41 | NivFreak | but what scares me |
| 18:23.43 | NivFreak | is patch 3.0 |
| 18:23.51 | NivFreak | when we have to live with the new talents/spells until xpac |
| 18:24.09 | Fisker- | last i heard the cooldown was removed again |
| 18:24.44 | nevcairiel | it was |
| 18:24.48 | Xuerian | NivFreak: "Have to live with the new talents/spells till xpac"? |
| 18:24.53 | nevcairiel | but they said they're still thinking about adding it again |
| 18:24.54 | Primer | I was just reading the patch notes from the latest update |
| 18:25.07 | Xuerian | You mean get to be giddy about being able to turn into a demon and whatnot? |
| 18:25.08 | nevcairiel | the patch notes are out-of-date =P |
| 18:25.10 | Primer | CoH spam == huge aggro |
| 18:25.14 | Primer | there's no need to patch it |
| 18:25.16 | CIA-47 | 03piranther * r80815 10PiraPlex/ (PiraPlex.lua PiraPlex.toc): (log message trimmed) |
| 18:25.16 | CIA-47 | PiraPlex :- |
| 18:25.16 | CIA-47 | 1. change versioning to simply use the wowace revision # to identify versions of PiraPlex |
| 18:25.16 | CIA-47 | 2. seperate CleanupDeps() into two sub-functions EnableRequiredDeps() and DisableUnrequiredDeps() |
| 18:25.16 | CIA-47 | 3. add a function to report current addon state to chat window |
| 18:25.19 | CIA-47 | 4. remove vestigial 'newestVersion' field from our SavedVariables |
| 18:25.21 | CIA-47 | 5. add a 'revision' field to our SavedVariables |
| 18:25.25 | Pneumatus | Primer: get less-rubbish tanks then |
| 18:25.28 | Primer | it's already balanced |
| 18:25.30 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 18:25.33 | Fisker- | also |
| 18:25.33 | Primer | Pneumatus: eh? |
| 18:25.48 | cncfanatics | is anyone on EU able to connect ? :s |
| 18:25.52 | Primer | I don't heal tanks unless I have to |
| 18:25.58 | Xuerian | NivFreak: Honestly, I WANT to be at build 3.0 |
| 18:26.01 | Fisker- | err? |
| 18:26.01 | Lukian | CIA bot isn't working in #wowace-cia :( |
| 18:26.03 | Pneumatus | regardless of the amount of aggro CoH spam gives, the tanks should be more than capable of keeping up |
| 18:26.09 | Primer | tank gets PoM and renew, pallies pick up the slack |
| 18:26.12 | nevcairiel | If any healer ever pulls aggro, your tank is definately a idiot |
| 18:26.20 | CIA-47 | 03piranther * r80816 10PiraPlex/PiraPlex.lua: PiraPlex :- remove left-over mention of 'isBeta' variable |
| 18:26.25 | Primer | I'm talking about mobs |
| 18:26.28 | Primer | Hyjal pulls |
| 18:26.31 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: adds |
| 18:26.31 | NivFreak | yea |
| 18:26.39 | NivFreak | and btw, my renews tick for 812 |
| 18:26.39 | Xuerian | lrn2protpally |
| 18:26.40 | Primer | things like that |
| 18:26.42 | NivFreak | I was wrong |
| 18:26.48 | Bruners | nevcairiel: a paladin could do that with tank thing enabled |
| 18:26.59 | Pneumatus | we have holy pallys tanking hyjal trash |
| 18:27.00 | Primer | NivFreak: how much +healing, fully buffed? |
| 18:27.00 | NivFreak | a great example of healers pulling aggro |
| 18:27.02 | nevcairiel | Bruners: its his own fault if he enabled that =P |
| 18:27.03 | NivFreak | is tidewalker |
| 18:27.09 | Fisker- | pulling aggro on hyjal trash is just that more impressive |
| 18:27.09 | NivFreak | Primer: that's with 2098 healing |
| 18:27.13 | NivFreak | it's my alt |
| 18:27.15 | Primer | ahh |
| 18:27.17 | Fisker- | since your aggro is divided amongst all targets |
| 18:27.22 | Primer | well, my priest is my alt too |
| 18:27.41 | CIA-47 | 03piranther * r80817 10PiraPlex/changelog.txt: PiraPlex :- remove pointless hard-to-maintain changelog |
| 18:27.45 | NivFreak | I love my priest though |
| 18:27.46 | Primer | but I have 2295 unbuffed |
| 18:27.56 | NivFreak | I have 4 70s |
| 18:27.56 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 18:27.59 | cncfanatics | holy shit |
| 18:28.01 | Primer | I only have 2 |
| 18:28.04 | NivFreak | warrior/priest/hunter/pally |
| 18:28.06 | cncfanatics | my zeppelin is stuck above hillsbrad |
| 18:28.07 | cncfanatics | and I can't move |
| 18:28.09 | Primer | lock/priest |
| 18:28.12 | Primer | my lock is pvp though |
| 18:28.19 | Primer | well, at least, I'm trying to be pvp |
| 18:28.23 | NivFreak | my priest was pvp, but I got sick of arenas |
| 18:28.26 | Primer | I can't find a druid that plays at the same time I do |
| 18:28.42 | KriLL3 | is it even possible to get to the PVP area? I've tried the borders around it from other zones and I only find unpassable mountains |
| 18:28.53 | NivFreak | you have to fly |
| 18:29.06 | NivFreak | I've managed to get in on foot, and I get a no mans land debuff and ported back to a starting area |
| 18:29.13 | seracht | http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4533/wowscrnshot082208142816bg7.jpg comments/suggestions? |
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| 18:30.28 | Primer | seracht: Did you win the duel? |
| 18:30.54 | seracht | no :( |
| 18:31.03 | Primer | who do resto druids beat? |
| 18:31.16 | chexsum | feral druids |
| 18:31.21 | Pneumatus | protection warriors |
| 18:31.50 | Primer | Should disc priests be able to consistently beat rogues? |
| 18:32.06 | chexsum | mutilate rogues own priests |
| 18:32.10 | chexsum | otherwise yeah |
| 18:32.26 | Primer | only rogue I have is a 19 twink |
| 18:32.28 | chexsum | if you can get a heal off you shouldnt die |
| 18:32.42 | Xuerian | Primer: Demo locks. The lock will kill itself for mana to kill the druid that it can't burst hard enough :p |
| 18:32.45 | AckisWork | ~seen kagaro |
| 18:32.51 | purl | kagaro <n=kagaro@cpe-065-190-128-061.nc.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7d 45m 51s ago, saying: 'Arrowmaster: did you update your svn checkout? I added the binmode for windows'. |
| 18:32.51 | Primer | I was dueling this rogue and could never get him past 50% |
| 18:32.53 | Primer | CC after CC after CC |
| 18:33.21 | chexsum | only rgues that give me grief are undead |
| 18:33.27 | Primer | I once dueled a resto druid on my SL/SL lock...lasted like 20 minutes |
| 18:33.31 | CIA-47 | 03piranther * r80818 10PiraPlex/deps.lua: PiraPlex :- update deps list |
| 18:33.46 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: I guess that's nice since it forces people sub 77 to level, instead of TBC/WoW where lowbies spend much of their time PvPing |
| 18:33.48 | Primer | I don't think I ever dropped below 80% HP or mana |
| 18:34.14 | Primer | he was adamant he could beat me...I think he figured I'd get bored |
| 18:34.35 | Xuerian | Primer: That's why I said demo =P. SL/SL or Aff can drain enough/dark pact, destro can burst |
| 18:35.02 | KriLL3 | destro is really fragile in pvp |
| 18:35.08 | Xuerian | KriLL3: No kidding -.- |
| 18:35.10 | Primer | yeah |
| 18:35.18 | Primer | oh, speaking of fragile |
| 18:35.27 | Xuerian | I only use it in pvp because I can't be bothered to respec from sac/incinerate |
| 18:35.46 | Primer | I have a great screen shot |
| 18:35.51 | KriLL3 | Xuerian: my feral druid eats desto :) |
| 18:35.57 | Primer | http://www.theredemptionguild.net/modules.php?name=gallery2&g2_itemId=1693 |
| 18:36.03 | Xuerian | KriLL3: No doubt |
| 18:36.04 | Primer | 22.2k HP on my lock |
| 18:36.33 | Xuerian | Primer: Holy sheit o.0 |
| 18:36.47 | KriLL3 | Primer: not if your pet gets killed :) |
| 18:37.24 | Primer | Xuerian: that's a combination of many buffs, of course |
| 18:37.35 | Primer | including the battlemaster trinket |
| 18:37.41 | Xuerian | Primer: lol |
| 18:38.18 | Primer | I still want to equip my Commander's Badge and get a warrior to do Commanding Shout after we kill Galv |
| 18:38.18 | KriLL3 | pft |
| 18:38.30 | Primer | the Galv buff is what gives like +20% HP |
| 18:38.36 | KriLL3 | I got 24k on my druid, if I use full tanking gear and beserk... |
| 18:38.51 | KriLL3 | only self buffed =P |
| 18:39.00 | KriLL3 | 28~ with some help I think |
| 18:39.04 | Primer | heh, well...I'm a warlock |
| 18:39.37 | Primer | I'm just going for dramatic effect here |
| 18:40.13 | KriLL3 | is the demonic form good btw? |
| 18:40.21 | Primer | I haven't tried it |
| 18:40.22 | KriLL3 | does it make you into some kind of melee dps? |
| 18:40.36 | Primer | I've only seen it a few times |
| 18:40.46 | Primer | you get an aoe fire thing, that's passive |
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| 18:40.56 | Primer | just standing next to you causes fire damage |
| 18:41.00 | Primer | IIRC |
| 18:41.16 | KriLL3 | I'd like to try some pvp with the new beta stuff but it's kinda hard with the lag, I tried to kill a pvp enabled mage but he had a buddy and they critted me on a regular basis at 4k... and I couldn't hit em once, "out of range, you're facing the wrong direction" ... |
| 18:41.27 | Mytos | whats a good dps rotation for a hunter past lvl60? this is my first one and im not sure |
| 18:41.35 | KriLL3 | lag + melee + feral druid range bug = moving targets aren't possible to hit |
| 18:41.43 | kappaccino` | ya know |
| 18:41.51 | Primer | The only pvp I've done in the beta so far was to try haunt |
| 18:41.56 | KriLL3 | Mytos: check sites, there should be a lot of castsequence macros |
| 18:42.02 | kappaccino` | I really do believe the feral range bug is because of the way the model looks on the screen |
| 18:42.09 | KriLL3 | kappaccino`: yeah that's the reason |
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| 18:42.14 | kappaccino` | so I installed this alternative worgen skin for cat and it's much better |
| 18:42.16 | Primer | and that was against a ret paly, who was able to crit me for 6100 |
| 18:42.24 | KriLL3 | back when we could use the noggenfrogger in feral forms it fixed it |
| 18:42.30 | Lukian | Xinhuan, no haste summary in WoWEquip? |
| 18:42.36 | Xinhuan | its on top |
| 18:42.36 | kappaccino` | yeah I used to be skeleton cat all the time hahaha |
| 18:42.41 | KriLL3 | kappaccino`: that'd get you banned |
| 18:42.55 | KriLL3 | kappaccino`: looked funny having a 2-hand with 1.0 speed =P |
| 18:43.00 | KriLL3 | bam bam bam |
| 18:43.04 | nevcairiel | yeah that was so crazy |
| 18:43.06 | Lukian | Xinhuan, ah found it :) |
| 18:43.16 | kappaccino` | I even used the transformation trinket turning my tauren into a tiny gnome |
| 18:43.25 | kappaccino` | it changes sexes everytime I shifted |
| 18:43.50 | KriLL3 | I love that a quest near the nexus where you'll go on the back of a dragon without warning doesn't work if you're in feral forms =P |
| 18:43.56 | KriLL3 | "can't taxi while shapeshifted" |
| 18:44.00 | KriLL3 | had to repeat the quest |
| 18:44.11 | nevcairiel | alot quests do that |
| 18:44.15 | nevcairiel | its kinda annoying though |
| 18:44.16 | KriLL3 | well most warn you |
| 18:44.23 | *** join/#wowace ag` (n=ag`@0x535bbf09.bynxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 18:44.33 | KriLL3 | imo if you're supposed to get taxi:ed it should unshift you |
| 18:46.37 | KriLL3 | I'm in a terrible predicament, all new feral stuff in LK are great, to the point it's almost physically painful to play BC, and I don't want to do all the new LK quests since I'd only have to do em all over again... |
| 18:46.49 | KriLL3 | so I can't play LK and I can't play BC :( |
| 18:47.29 | kappaccino` | did you get that talent all the way down in the feral tree |
| 18:47.34 | kappaccino` | was it rampage or something |
| 18:47.35 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 18:47.40 | KriLL3 | berserk |
| 18:48.22 | KriLL3 | 15 sek immune to CC and all energy costs are slashed 50% and in bearform you gain something like 20% more hp and hit 3 targets |
| 18:48.53 | KriLL3 | you can literally spam catform attacks and the energy doesn't move downwards fast enough to go out before the effect ends |
| 18:49.07 | KriLL3 | + tigers fury gives you 60 energy |
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| 18:49.18 | kappaccino` | lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyTzg3yi6do |
| 18:49.25 | kappaccino` | berserker barrage ! |
| 18:49.40 | *** join/#wowace Belazor (n=Vulcanus@084202194016.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 18:50.37 | kappaccino` | so the new tigers fury gives AP and more energy? |
| 18:50.42 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 18:50.48 | KriLL3 | and doesn't cost anything, just has cooldown |
| 18:51.09 | KriLL3 | it's a talent somewhere that adds 20/40/60 energy |
| 18:51.26 | KriLL3 | and another talent reduces mangle cost bellow 40, 36-38 or something like that |
| 18:51.38 | KriLL3 | so you can fit a shred in there without waiting |
| 18:52.13 | Zyndrome | heh, the beta makes me go "god, this is boring" when I log on to live :C |
| 18:52.20 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 18:52.25 | KriLL3 | I can't even play it anymore |
| 18:52.44 | KriLL3 | I do easily 2-3x more dmg in the beta and got a lot more utility stuff |
| 18:53.05 | KriLL3 | and I don't want to play the beta since I don't want to re-do all the stuff later when it comes out :( |
| 18:53.30 | KriLL3 | I've stopped playing almost completely, the irony is that I just paid for another 6 months |
| 18:53.55 | Zyndrome | I leveled my DK to 71 so far, and when I think about that I have to redo it all ... le poop |
| 18:54.03 | kappaccino` | interesting |
| 18:54.13 | kappaccino` | so it's either leveing my druid or making a death knight |
| 18:54.15 | KriLL3 | I hate 50-70 leveling |
| 18:54.29 | KriLL3 | you've done it all before |
| 18:54.35 | Zyndrome | but it went pretty fast, dinged 70 at 2 days /played |
| 18:54.37 | Zyndrome | .. |
| 18:54.38 | KriLL3 | it's better than starting at 1 though |
| 18:54.57 | KriLL3 | yeah but it's still less fun that putting red hot forks into your eyes |
| 18:55.09 | KriLL3 | at least imo |
| 18:55.37 | KriLL3 | and for some reason I got a really hard time playing anything other than my druid, I guess I'm way too used to it |
| 18:56.42 | KriLL3 | my brother had a "friend" of his borrow his account and move his 70 hunter in reasonably good gear from the pvp server he, I and all our mutual friends are on, to some backwater recently opened pve server |
| 18:57.09 | KriLL3 | and you can't move from pve to pvp for some odd reason, only the other way, so I helped him level up a new hunter to 70, it sucked |
| 18:57.27 | Zyndrome | which is why I don't lend my account details to anyone :P |
| 18:57.33 | KriLL3 | I copied a castsequence macro for this talent spec and hit that one button... |
| 18:57.38 | Pneumatus | you cant move from pve to pvp because all the pvpers complain you levelled ezmode carebare style |
| 18:57.38 | KriLL3 | yeah me neither |
| 18:58.10 | KriLL3 | most ppl I know lent their account to someone or sold it etc and had all kinds of problems |
| 18:58.32 | KriLL3 | friends borrowing your account to their friends etc until it was so far away you never got it back etc |
| 18:58.56 | KriLL3 | my account got a really strong password and I haven't borrowed it to anyone |
| 18:59.24 | KriLL3 | my beta account has a different a lot less secure password and I've let my bro borrow it because I don't use it much |
| 19:00.09 | Mytos | thats a beta account though |
| 19:00.16 | fewyn | seems northrend server took a dump while i went to get lunch |
| 19:00.17 | Mytos | my two accounts are locked up like vaults |
| 19:00.18 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 19:00.36 | KriLL3 | my main account is damn secure |
| 19:01.16 | Mytos | ive got a 15 character password on both, and as soon as the blizzard store gets them back in im locking them both to the same keytag |
| 19:01.47 | KriLL3 | I got a 16 char randomly generated string |
| 19:01.58 | KriLL3 | letters numbers etc |
| 19:02.03 | Mytos | speaking of, anyone know when the blizz store will have the us model back in stock? |
| 19:02.22 | KriLL3 | I got a 24 long string with ! % etc also but I don't think wow works with that stuff |
| 19:02.40 | KriLL3 | funny thing about my passwords is that I couldn't tell you even if I tried, they're in muscle memory =P |
| 19:02.46 | Mytos | it does, just not caps |
| 19:02.52 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 19:03.45 | Ellipsis | I remember once playing an mmo where the password change was done in-game but most other account functions were done through the website... |
| 19:04.11 | Ellipsis | I changed my password to something with too many funny symbols and it wouldn't let me login on the website anymore, even though I could play the game fine |
| 19:04.21 | KriLL3 | I remember highschool where every 2 weeks you had to change password and you couldn't use one you had before, that was fun |
| 19:04.23 | Ellipsis | I figured it was probably safer that way since I didn't need to change anything on the account |
| 19:04.37 | Pneumatus | untill your credit card expires, at least |
| 19:04.45 | KriLL3 | we all used the password get got at the start of the term (randomly generated) + 1, 2, 3 etc =P |
| 19:04.58 | Ellipsis | Pneumatus: well then I could just change teh password to something alphanumeric :P |
| 19:05.11 | Ellipsis | the idea is, most people trying to steal an account would test the login on the website rather than the game |
| 19:05.17 | Pneumatus | assuming it hadnt lost sync and broke forever :> |
| 19:05.36 | Pneumatus | the thought of changing your password in game is hideous though... say you're at a net cafe and go for a piss |
| 19:05.37 | kadrahil | wow |
| 19:05.42 | kadrahil | my computer parts are already here |
| 19:05.44 | Pneumatus | you come back to find someone has changed your in-game password |
| 19:05.52 | kadrahil | i just placed the order wednesday evening on newegg, that was freaking fast |
| 19:05.56 | Ellipsis | Pneumatus: that's why you're supposed to log out before going afk :P |
| 19:06.13 | Ellipsis | grats kadrahil |
| 19:06.20 | Ellipsis | waits patiently for hers |
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| 19:13.19 | Mytos | so wait, the highest possible dps i can do is just spamming a steadyshot/kill command macro? |
| 19:13.27 | Mytos | i mean REALLY? |
| 19:13.44 | dodga | you just won the game :> |
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| 19:13.58 | Mytos | like, even throwing a serpent sting in there every 20 odd seconds isnt gonna up the dps? |
| 19:14.05 | dodga | oh wait, that's essentially true for every class :o |
| 19:14.29 | Pneumatus | serpent sting is a waste of a gcd |
| 19:15.05 | Mytos | not even like an arcane shot every once in a while? |
| 19:15.43 | qwesto | Weaving in a Arcane Shot or Multi Shot instead of a Steady increses dps, iirc |
| 19:15.53 | KriLL3 | northrend is toast |
| 19:15.59 | qwesto | but not drastically |
| 19:16.03 | KriLL3 | tried to use a FP and nothing happened |
| 19:16.20 | Ellipsis | I can't even log in to northrend |
| 19:16.30 | dieck | hm. as there is auctioneer for prices and BankItems vor listing all items you have, wouldn't "net wealth" be a interesting fact to calculate? :) |
| 19:16.37 | Mytos | i mean shit i knew hunters were easy, but REALLY? |
| 19:17.16 | KriLL3 | Mytos: you can make a castsequence macro and only hit it |
| 19:17.22 | KriLL3 | that's how easy hunters are |
| 19:17.35 | qwesto | Mytos, you also have to feign death sometimes :P |
| 19:17.39 | Pneumatus | you can do the same with most dps classes though, tbh |
| 19:17.43 | KriLL3 | naw |
| 19:17.56 | KriLL3 | most melee need to be more active than that |
| 19:18.00 | qwesto | Warlocks don't even need a macro |
| 19:18.01 | KriLL3 | especially druids |
| 19:18.01 | Pneumatus | destro locks |
| 19:18.10 | Pneumatus | Shadowbolt Shadowbolt Shadowbolt Shadowbolt Shadowbolt Shadowbolt Shadowbolt Shadowbolt Shadowbolt Shadowbolt Shadowbolt Shadowbolt Shadowbolt Shadowbolt Shadowbolt |
| 19:18.13 | Pneumatus | etc |
| 19:18.16 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 19:18.25 | KriLL3 | there is a reason most bots are hunters =P |
| 19:18.26 | qwesto | CoE, Shadowbolt, Shadowbolt, etc :P |
| 19:18.38 | Lukian | Mytos, yes, really. |
| 19:19.05 | Mytos | this makes me hate the hunters that have fucked up in my druids raids even more |
| 19:19.10 | KriLL3 | you can be as efficient while playing a hunter afk with something hitting the keyboard key bound to your castsequence as if you're sitting there |
| 19:19.58 | Lukian | unless you use a 1:1.x rotation and multishot breaks something :p |
| 19:20.00 | KriLL3 | train your pet to mash that button :) |
| 19:21.03 | Pneumatus | warlocks bind every key to shadowbolt and mash their head on the keyboard, dont they? |
| 19:22.20 | Mytos | im depressed now |
| 19:22.52 | Mytos | i figured id hit 70 and figure out the hunters were doin shit wrong on my realm, and then id blow them away and make htem look like shit |
| 19:22.59 | Pneumatus | http://imgnation.net/images/fkft.jpg |
| 19:24.00 | fewyn | Ding 73 |
| 19:24.06 | jy__ | gratz :) |
| 19:24.21 | jy__ | not tired of leveling on laggy server ? |
| 19:24.35 | jy__ | i gave up |
| 19:24.58 | Polarina | I didn't, but the bugs did. |
| 19:30.14 | Polarina | s/bugs did/bugs made be/ |
| 19:30.30 | Primer | I installed the "Talented" addon a while back, and I don't recall if the default talent UI showed the "next step" of a talent |
| 19:30.39 | Primer | Talented does not, and it bugs the crap out of me |
| 19:30.54 | Polarina | Primer: The default UI shows the next step. |
| 19:31.07 | Primer | Talented doesn't show the next step even when you select it |
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| 19:31.18 | Polarina | Primer: Uninstall it. |
| 19:31.18 | CIA-47 | quecho: 03Tekkub 07master * rffd2bac 10/ README.textile : Add readme - http://is.gd/1Qby |
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| 19:31.59 | Primer | Polarina: can you recommend anything better? |
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| 19:32.23 | Polarina | Primer: Blizzard_TalentUI is my favourite. |
| 19:32.26 | Primer | I like saving talent specs and be able to apply them with a single click |
| 19:32.31 | Primer | err |
| 19:32.40 | KriLL3 | I stopped leveling at 71, I don't want to spoil it |
| 19:32.41 | dieck | talented? |
| 19:32.42 | Polarina | Primer: Just memorize your specs. |
| 19:32.46 | Primer | no |
| 19:32.49 | KriLL3 | and you have to do it all over again anyway |
| 19:33.38 | KriLL3 | yeah I wish you could switch between 2 sets of talents at will |
| 19:33.40 | Primer | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/9159/ <-- talented |
| 19:33.44 | KriLL3 | one pvp and one pve without cost |
| 19:33.56 | Primer | yeah, that'd be great |
| 19:33.56 | Polarina | Primer: What do you want me to do about it? You can ether keep that bug bitching around or uninstall it. |
| 19:33.57 | KriLL3 | if you wanted to change me you'd have to pay ofc |
| 19:34.03 | KriLL3 | *em |
| 19:34.16 | Primer | Polarina: heh, I was hoping that perhaps the author was here and would fix it :) |
| 19:34.33 | Polarina | Primer: Is the addon on wowace? |
| 19:34.36 | Primer | yes |
| 19:34.45 | KriLL3 | I'm feral, the main problem for me is that blizz in their infinite wisdom is making a lot of tanking and dps stuff separate in the feral tree, you can be a tank or dps, not both :( |
| 19:34.46 | Polarina | Primer: I'll take a look into it for you. |
| 19:35.01 | Primer | Polarina: Me love you long time! |
| 19:35.10 | KriLL3 | aka I'll be a prot warrior in pvp |
| 19:35.34 | KriLL3 | I don't want to respec each time I want to enter the damn arena or go raiding/heroic/etc |
| 19:35.54 | Primer | Polarina: one nice thing about talented is that I can inspect another class, and if I like their spec, save it as a template, then apply it to my alt of that class |
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| 19:36.12 | Vilkku | what's up with SCT and the new build? |
| 19:36.17 | Polarina | Primer: Can you give me detailed description of the issue your experiencing? |
| 19:36.27 | Primer | ohhh wait |
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| 19:36.35 | KriLL3 | Primer: I wish it remembered your bars also |
| 19:36.41 | Primer | In order to get access to talent trees for all classes, as well as tooltip description for all ranks of talents, you must also install Talented_Data, here: http://www.curse.com/downloads/detail.../9160. |
| 19:36.42 | KriLL3 | you need a second addon for that |
| 19:36.47 | Primer | I never knew that |
| 19:37.12 | Polarina | Primer: Try to check if that helps first. |
| 19:37.20 | Primer | Doing so now |
| 19:37.24 | KriLL3 | it sucks quite hard imo that you need to go and re-learn levels of spells you access through talents and then put em back in your bars |
| 19:37.41 | Primer | Polarina: I'm curious...are you just bored? I have an addon that could use another developer :) |
| 19:37.45 | KriLL3 | Primer: linky no worky |
| 19:37.50 | Polarina | Primer: Kind of. |
| 19:38.05 | Primer | KriLL3: Which one? |
| 19:38.13 | KriLL3 | Primer: your latest link |
| 19:38.19 | KriLL3 | "http://www.curse.com/downloads/detail.../9160" |
| 19:38.25 | EthanCentaurai | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/9160 :) |
| 19:38.35 | Primer | Hrmm, Works For Me⢠|
| 19:38.44 | Primer | Polarina: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/11457/ |
| 19:38.50 | Pneumatus | KriLL3: you dont need to re-train previously learned spells on beta at least |
| 19:38.56 | Primer | KriLL3: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/9160/download/57885/ |
| 19:38.59 | EthanCentaurai | "Copy Link Location" pwns "just copy website text" :p |
| 19:39.03 | Primer | Is where it took me |
| 19:39.14 | KriLL3 | yeah noticed that |
| 19:39.29 | Lukian | Xinhuan, was that you fiddling with an anti-logout script a while back? :) |
| 19:39.29 | Primer | Polarina: If you're really bored, I have new code in branches/FlightHUD, and some comments in the comment section |
| 19:39.38 | Xinhuan | dosen't work anymore |
| 19:39.52 | Lukian | Xinhuan, tried turning into a snowman? :) |
| 19:40.02 | Xinhuan | no |
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| 19:40.17 | Polarina | Primer: I'm not that bored. |
| 19:40.28 | Primer | :( |
| 19:40.34 | Primer | No one likes my addon |
| 19:40.44 | Primer | it's pretty useless, I admit... |
| 19:40.55 | KriLL3 | flighthud was a cool idea but I don't like it's format, if it was just a thing on the side of the screen showing your angle I'd like it more |
| 19:41.10 | KriLL3 | it's in your face and large as hell aspect didn't sit well with me |
| 19:41.24 | Primer | You can move it and resize it, you know |
| 19:41.30 | Primer | as well as select what do display |
| 19:41.32 | KriLL3 | yeah and it warps horribly |
| 19:41.47 | Primer | warps? |
| 19:41.54 | KriLL3 | the texture stretches |
| 19:42.06 | Primer | err |
| 19:42.10 | Primer | not sure what you mean |
| 19:42.25 | Primer | how else would one resize? |
| 19:42.32 | KriLL3 | the angle indication is a series of images, resize or it and it gets blurry |
| 19:42.47 | KriLL3 | well can't you make it render bars or something like that? |
| 19:42.50 | Primer | it's one image |
| 19:43.05 | KriLL3 | well a series of images since it changes |
| 19:43.14 | Primer | I was never able to get a definite answer on drawing primitives when I was creating it |
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| 19:43.31 | Primer | The pitch indicator is only 1 image |
| 19:43.41 | Primer | the compass is 2 images, since it has to wrap |
| 19:44.14 | Primer | I would have loved not having to use any images at all |
| 19:44.25 | Primer | that would have scaled nicely |
| 19:44.42 | KriLL3 | another reason I stopped using it is that a druid can just tap the swift flight button twice to shift out and back in again and be level :) |
| 19:44.56 | Primer | heh |
| 19:45.11 | Primer | I've started adding code to implement waypoints, which was the original goal |
| 19:45.18 | Primer | level flight was just a perk, for me |
| 19:45.22 | KriLL3 | that's the only part of LK I don't like, not being able to fly until 77 |
| 19:45.25 | dodga | what addon? |
| 19:45.32 | KriLL3 | flighthud |
| 19:45.56 | KriLL3 | imo they should at least let you fly a short time before getting too cold in LK so you could traverse ravines etc |
| 19:46.02 | KriLL3 | say 20-30s |
| 19:46.22 | KriLL3 | and not let you fly over zone mountains due to wind gusts or something |
| 19:46.30 | dodga | "time sink" :> |
| 19:46.38 | Primer | Polarina: that fixed it |
| 19:46.39 | KriLL3 | would maintain their "vision" and still let you traverse obstacles |
| 19:46.51 | KriLL3 | dodga: yeah |
| 19:46.51 | Polarina | Primer: Ok. |
| 19:47.04 | KriLL3 | also Northrend feels a damn lot bigger than the wow and tbc areas |
| 19:47.41 | KriLL3 | wow felt like everything was miniaturized, buildings and areas felt like a RTS enviroment, everything was scaled down |
| 19:47.45 | KriLL3 | LK feels almost 1:1 |
| 19:48.09 | KriLL3 | or am I just going insane from not being able to fly? |
| 19:48.42 | dodga | maybe |
| 19:48.54 | Matrix110 | Walk trough Barrens |
| 19:49.01 | Matrix110 | then ask again for bigger areas :P |
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| 19:49.04 | dodga | hm no beta key yet.. I don't wanna learn :/ |
| 19:49.18 | dodga | I needs to procrastinate! |
| 19:49.23 | KriLL3 | well barrens is 2-3 zones in one |
| 19:49.28 | dodga | To notalwaysright.com it is! |
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| 19:51.37 | Polarina | dodga: My favourite site! |
| 19:51.53 | dodga | Yeah mine too! |
| 19:52.12 | dodga | since yesterday I spent at least 5 hours on it :D |
| 19:54.02 | Gnarfoz | Righteous Weapon Coating for fury warrior offhand (or mainhand if no enh shaman, 2hand for MS warriors if no enh shaman) in SWP: Yes/No? |
| 19:54.41 | NivFreak | so, did anyone else have abilities randomly moved around on thier action bars after the last patch>? |
| 19:54.45 | NivFreak | in beta |
| 19:55.41 | Zyndrome | bleh |
| 19:55.56 | Zyndrome | respecced to Unholy , Blood got shit with the latest build |
| 19:57.48 | Gnarfoz | no takers for the Righteous Weapon Coating question? :( |
| 19:58.18 | Polarina | You can get map coordinates in instances in WotLK! :D |
| 20:00.44 | KriLL3 | Polarina: can you use the map inside em? still don't understand why you can't |
| 20:01.09 | [dRaCo] | Gnarfoz: dunno, check the warrior forums if 75 AP are worth more that whatever the blacksmith thingy adds |
| 20:01.18 | Gnarfoz | crit/+dmg |
| 20:01.19 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 20:01.26 | Polarina | KriLL3: You can get coordinates, but Blizzard doesn't provide a map. You can create a map using the minimap textures. |
| 20:01.28 | Gnarfoz | I'll scour EJ if no one knows off hand |
| 20:01.34 | [dRaCo] | crit should be pretty easy to calc |
| 20:01.47 | Gnarfoz | GPSLib is dying noooooooooooo |
| 20:01.47 | Gnarfoz | :X |
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| 20:01.51 | KriLL3 | Polarina: why doesn't cart2/3 do that? would be nice :( |
| 20:02.02 | Gnarfoz | erm |
| 20:02.04 | Gnarfoz | WotLK |
| 20:02.04 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 20:02.08 | Gnarfoz | that's why! |
| 20:02.12 | KriLL3 | so you didn't have to use atlas etc |
| 20:02.31 | Gnarfoz | cartographer IS "etc" in that sentence. |
| 20:02.41 | Gnarfoz | it's not like carto doesn't have instance maps? |
| 20:02.42 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:02.49 | Fisker- | Gnarfoz |
| 20:02.51 | Fisker- | my friiiiiiiieeeeeeeend |
| 20:03.10 | Gnarfoz | birthday boy even wrote something to create the maps on the fly, ingame |
| 20:03.26 | Gnarfoz | instead of relying on pre-rendere maps that have to be distributed with the addon, like Atlas does |
| 20:03.40 | Gnarfoz | see topic for "birthday boy" :P |
| 20:03.48 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: but it doesn't work like a proper map does it? |
| 20:03.50 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: I'll destroy you |
| 20:03.54 | KriLL3 | so you can see your buddies etc |
| 20:04.01 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: reading comprehension ftw?! |
| 20:04.11 | Fisker- | :( |
| 20:04.14 | Fisker- | i hate you Gnarfoz |
| 20:04.19 | Gnarfoz | hate KriLL3 instead |
| 20:04.23 | Fisker- | i hate you KriLL3 |
| 20:04.24 | Ellipsis | KriLL3: there's no way to get coords for other people...so no |
| 20:04.28 | Gnarfoz | he's being more thick than necessary ;) |
| 20:04.29 | KriLL3 | :( |
| 20:04.31 | Fisker- | Ellipsis my friend! |
| 20:04.44 | Ellipsis | Fisker- my pet! |
| 20:04.45 | KriLL3 | I don't see why you can't see where your party is inside an instance |
| 20:04.49 | Fisker- | :( |
| 20:04.53 | Ellipsis | KriLL3: because the API returns 0,0 |
| 20:05.06 | KriLL3 | Ellipsis: fix it, I demandz it |
| 20:05.07 | Fisker- | There was some proof of concept though |
| 20:05.07 | Ellipsis | you can see them on the minimap, but addons have no way to access the information |
| 20:05.09 | Fisker- | a while back |
| 20:05.16 | KriLL3 | else no cheezburger |
| 20:05.16 | Ellipsis | it doesn't matter now |
| 20:05.20 | Ellipsis | wotlk is supposedly adding instance coords |
| 20:05.23 | Fisker- | Where you can gain information through minimap pings >:3 |
| 20:05.29 | Neo|Other | "The Nigerian high commissioner in Australia says people who are ripped off by so-called Nigerian scams are just as guilty as the fraudsters and should be jailed. " |
| 20:05.35 | KriLL3 | Ellipsis: cheezburger for the joo! |
| 20:05.46 | Neo|Other | now although I agree people that fall for the scams are stupid, jailing them seems a bit excessive |
| 20:05.51 | KriLL3 | Neo: wtf? |
| 20:05.51 | Ellipsis | woot |
| 20:05.57 | Fisker- | Neo|Other! |
| 20:05.59 | Fisker- | my friend |
| 20:06.01 | Neo|Other | it's like jailing a victim of violent crime because he was outside after dark in a seedy area |
| 20:06.22 | Ellipsis | well considering most of those scams work by convincing people to cooperate in not-so-legal activities |
| 20:06.31 | Pneumatus | appears you can get times on other peoples buffs/debuffs now? |
| 20:06.43 | Fisker- | btw |
| 20:06.50 | Fisker- | it reminds me of the lulz |
| 20:06.54 | Neo|Other | Pneumatus: yay |
| 20:07.05 | Fisker- | someone gave up like ~â¬300k for a nigerian scam |
| 20:07.10 | Neo|Other | Ellipsis: usually they just have ppl send them money |
| 20:07.15 | Polarina | Neo|Other: Jailing for stupidity is the right thing to do. |
| 20:07.18 | Pneumatus | on the default interface at least you can mousover other peoples buffs / mob debuffs and it shows a time |
| 20:07.34 | Fisker- | It was extremely lulz that the person actually were in the bank to borrow the money |
| 20:07.34 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: I already said that, btw. that PoC is "GPSLib" ;) |
| 20:07.34 | Neo|Other | Polarina: although in concept perhaps I agree it wouldn't exactly be viable |
| 20:07.45 | Neo|Other | the view of "stupid" depends on the eye of the beholder |
| 20:07.54 | Fisker- | and she said that he needed to "help a friend" in need |
| 20:07.56 | Fisker- | so double pwned |
| 20:07.57 | Ellipsis | Neo|Other: not really, it's generally put to them in a more complex way |
| 20:08.02 | Neo|Other | it's like MUD's having a "common sense" rule that is applied to everything the mud leaders don't like |
| 20:08.19 | Ellipsis | to where if the story described in the scam were true, what the victim is doing would still be considered fraud |
| 20:08.32 | Neo|Other | I prefer to lol at the idiots |
| 20:08.47 | Neo|Other | certaily shouldn't get any of the money they were stupid enough to lose back |
| 20:10.09 | Fisker- | my story was lulz i tell ya! |
| 20:14.12 | AKX | Btw, is files.wowace.com the place to go to get hopefully beta-compatible mods? |
| 20:14.47 | Ellipsis | no, most wotlk work on wowace is in branches |
| 20:14.55 | AKX | Ah, fair enough |
| 20:15.07 | Ellipsis | if you want a quick set of working addons, wowinterface has a wotlk compatible section |
| 20:15.44 | AKX | Nah, there's just a couple ones I'd need. Thanks. |
| 20:16.02 | Xuerian | AKX: I luvs me some chatr :3 |
| 20:16.12 | AKX | Xuerian :D <3 |
| 20:16.25 | AKX | I'm honestly very surprised it's been working for like... over a year without any modification |
| 20:16.32 | AKX | (Works in WotLK too!) |
| 20:16.32 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 20:16.45 | Ellipsis | licks Zhinjio |
| 20:16.47 | Ellipsis | how goes it? |
| 20:16.50 | Zhinjio | it goes well. |
| 20:16.54 | Zhinjio | just got up from a nap |
| 20:17.04 | Zhinjio | heading back to the hospital in a few |
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| 20:18.06 | Fisker- | licks Zhinjio |
| 20:18.13 | Zhinjio | Yikes! |
| 20:18.16 | Zhinjio | oh, hey |
| 20:18.47 | Fisker- | hey |
| 20:21.00 | Zhinjio | ok, thats my cue. Hospital. bebe. Talk to y'all soon. |
| 20:21.03 | Zhinjio | idles. |
| 20:21.08 | Xuerian | AKX: Lol :P |
| 20:21.12 | Ellipsis | have fun Zhinjio :) |
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| 20:22.21 | Fisker- | spams Ellipsis |
| 20:22.23 | Vonhinten | <- playing WAR |
| 20:22.34 | Fisker- | <- Also playing shit |
| 20:22.54 | Ellipsis | <- playing Fisker- |
| 20:23.06 | Fisker- | that's a pretty awesome game |
| 20:23.27 | Vonhinten | I hear it has a really small quest log |
| 20:23.54 | Fisker- | Well all quests have the same objective |
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| 20:24.10 | [dRaCo] | kill all Fisker-s |
| 20:24.11 | Ellipsis | yeah but the end boss is a wimp |
| 20:24.14 | Fisker- | nah |
| 20:24.20 | Fisker- | Troll |
| 20:24.52 | Ellipsis | troll and wimp are not mutually exclusive :) |
| 20:25.06 | Gnarfoz | AKX: if it's just a few, list them ;) |
| 20:25.28 | [dRaCo] | is the boss a wimpy troll or a troll wimp? |
| 20:25.39 | ckknight | Kemayo: ping |
| 20:26.09 | NivFreak | wow |
| 20:26.13 | NivFreak | fury warriors are just nuts now |
| 20:26.16 | AKX | Gnarfoz, well.. GarbageFu (or equivalent), XLoot (or equivalent), I suppose |
| 20:26.21 | NivFreak | so great |
| 20:27.35 | Gnarfoz | AKX: XLoot1.0 from branches works, but it doesn't have group roll frames anymore. I use teksLoot (wowinterface.com) for that (it needs a one-line fix though, but Tekkub releases weekly builds IIRC, maybe it's already in) |
| 20:27.46 | Gnarfoz | AKX: I don't know GarbageFu so I can't comment on it. :) |
| 20:27.56 | Xuerian | AKX: I don't know if I ever pushed my wotlk-compat version of xloot 1.0 before I horribly mangled it -then gave up in favor of butsu. I THINK the trunk xloot works, at least that's what people have said in the working mods forum |
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| 20:28.31 | Groktar | heh, wotlk s1 gear is blue? |
| 20:28.42 | Shefki | I don't think that's S1 gear. |
| 20:28.46 | Shefki | I think that's rep gear. |
| 20:28.50 | Gnarfoz | it's NAMED s1 gear. |
| 20:28.53 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 20:28.54 | Shefki | Like we got a few patches back on live. |
| 20:29.03 | Groktar | it says gladiator's on it |
| 20:29.27 | Groktar | LK Arena 1 |
| 20:29.28 | Gnarfoz | it even says "Arena 1" in the name |
| 20:29.28 | AKX | God I love Firefox 3's memory usage! |
| 20:29.29 | Gnarfoz | :) |
| 20:29.31 | AKX | 2.5 gig! |
| 20:29.34 | Gnarfoz | AKX: you love memory leaks? |
| 20:29.34 | Groktar | and the set bonus says glad on it |
| 20:29.35 | Gnarfoz | heh yeah |
| 20:29.36 | Shefki | Well it is basically a copy and paste job from S4 with slightly changed stats. |
| 20:29.52 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: uhm? what else is there to change? xD |
| 20:29.53 | KriLL3 | I hope the model is a filler |
| 20:29.54 | Xuerian | AKX: Good lord, what did you do to it? |
| 20:29.59 | AKX | Xuerian, started it. |
| 20:30.04 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: But I'm not reading Arena 1 as Season 1. |
| 20:30.07 | AKX | Sometimes the tab recovery feature makes it go nuts |
| 20:30.08 | KriLL3 | and I don't understand how the feral stuff can lack int, str, hit |
| 20:30.12 | Xuerian | AKX: With what, a industrial-strength air compressor? |
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| 20:30.19 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: too bad, because that's what it means. |
| 20:30.26 | KriLL3 | you'll be able to shift 4 times or something like that sans int... |
| 20:30.42 | Xuerian | AKX: Mine's been running for a while and isn't past 140mb, with a assload of addons (inc Tab Mix Plus (dev)) |
| 20:30.43 | AKX | I had it started while killing crows in Northrend, and forgot it in the background, then went afk for a bit and returned to an entirely swap-thrashing laptop \o/ |
| 20:30.46 | Gnarfoz | just dig in the MPQs for model names ;) |
| 20:30.49 | Groktar | oh wow NOT COOL |
| 20:30.52 | KriLL3 | I dunno what blizz is thinking making ferals wear rogue gear |
| 20:31.03 | Shefki | Do you seriously think they're gonna make S1 gear blue? Even if it's really good people will still bitch. |
| 20:31.07 | Groktar | so i was on the aldor rise elevator when the server went down earlier |
| 20:31.12 | Shefki | Just becuase it's not purple. |
| 20:31.19 | Groktar | and went splat when i logged back in |
| 20:31.27 | AKX | Xuerian, I started it again now |
| 20:31.31 | AKX | At 660M and rising |
| 20:31.33 | AKX | 704! |
| 20:31.36 | AKX | 717! |
| 20:31.39 | AKX | 751! |
| 20:31.49 | AKX | 802! |
| 20:31.53 | Xuerian | AKX: Srslsy, you're doing it rong. |
| 20:31.55 | Xuerian | Something. |
| 20:31.59 | Xuerian | But rong, nontheless XD |
| 20:32.06 | AKX | Yes. Very rong. |
| 20:32.10 | KriLL3 | I wounder if you'll have to mix resto/bal gear with feral just to get enough int to shapeshift more than a couple of times... |
| 20:32.25 | Xuerian | KriLL3: Did they up the shift costs? |
| 20:32.29 | KriLL3 | no |
| 20:32.31 | KriLL3 | why? |
| 20:32.37 | KriLL3 | feral gear in LK doesn't have any int on it |
| 20:32.46 | KriLL3 | just stam and agi |
| 20:32.49 | KriLL3 | no str either |
| 20:32.50 | Xuerian | Feral gear in bc doesn't have much int on it either >_> |
| 20:32.54 | AKX | Xuerian, now I managed to stop it before it reached singularity and restarted. Only 64 M now! |
| 20:32.57 | KriLL3 | yes it does |
| 20:33.02 | Xuerian | Unless you count tiers, which aren't out in wotlk yet either |
| 20:33.08 | KriLL3 | I got a bit over 7000 mana in full feral gear |
| 20:33.29 | KriLL3 | LK feral gear doesn't have any int/str what so ever |
| 20:33.35 | KriLL3 | just stam and agi |
| 20:33.57 | KriLL3 | I guess we'll either have to use some caster gear or get a full set of str/int gems... |
| 20:33.57 | Xuerian | KriLL3: You're comparing teirs/seasons to blue feral gear I think |
| 20:33.59 | Xuerian | http://armorylite.com/us/Arathor/Cairnriil |
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| 20:35.28 | KriLL3 | Xuerian: no blizz said ferals and rogues would share the same gear |
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| 20:35.33 | AKX | By the way: Futura looks awesome as a Friz Quadrata replacement font. :D |
| 20:35.33 | KriLL3 | thus no int/str |
| 20:35.52 | KriLL3 | they've lost their marbles imo |
| 20:36.11 | NivFreak | they don't want ferals healing :) |
| 20:36.11 | Xuerian | KriLL3: Unless they're dropping Class: Rogue and Class: Druid, I call bullshit |
| 20:36.30 | KriLL3 | in BC they added gear that was actually meant for ferals (gasp!) but it seems in LK they're removing it |
| 20:36.46 | KriLL3 | Xuerian: you don't read mmo-champion do you? |
| 20:36.55 | NivFreak | KriLL3: but they are changing talents/class to not really NEED that gear |
| 20:36.55 | Xuerian | KriLL3: Not regularly... >.> |
| 20:37.00 | KriLL3 | I haven't seen a single feral item in LK yet |
| 20:37.08 | Xuerian | KriLL3: Go ahead and define feral for me |
| 20:37.17 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: how? how could they account for the loss of str, int and hit? |
| 20:37.25 | NivFreak | KriLL3: all rogue/feral gear is intended to be the same but gemmed/enchanted differently |
| 20:37.28 | KriLL3 | Xuerian: huh? |
| 20:37.34 | KriLL3 | eww |
| 20:37.37 | Shefki | Anyone know if 2.4.3 has been rolled out for everyone by now? So it's save to rip out pre-2.4.3 compat code? |
| 20:37.38 | EthanCentaurai | happy 21st birthday ckknight! :D |
| 20:37.42 | Shefki | safe* |
| 20:37.44 | ckknight | thanks, EthanCentaurai |
| 20:37.51 | KriLL3 | so ferals would have to gem + ench healing, int, str etc? :( |
| 20:37.54 | Xuerian | KriLL3: Your biggest complaint was int so far. wtf you complaining about int on feral gear for, unless you powercrack? (Powershift) |
| 20:38.03 | KriLL3 | while rogues can just gem/ench hit + agi |
| 20:38.20 | Shefki | Xuerian: Shifting out of snares in arena... |
| 20:38.31 | KriLL3 | Xuerian: are you stupid? you have to shift and heal a number of times to even be viable as feral, my 7000 mana doesn't last that long |
| 20:38.42 | Xuerian | Ahh, pvp nuts. |
| 20:38.43 | KriLL3 | oh he's a pve guy, no need to shift ever then |
| 20:38.46 | Xuerian | You're all amusing. >_> |
| 20:38.50 | NivFreak | KriLL3: they don't want ferals to heal |
| 20:38.51 | NivFreak | :P |
| 20:39.07 | Shefki | NivFreak: Then they need to make them viable as pure dps. |
| 20:39.08 | Xuerian | Now correct me if I'm wrong. Are epic tiers out yet? |
| 20:39.13 | AKX | Is FuBar WoTLK compatible? |
| 20:39.14 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: then why not just make us into rogues if we spec dmg feral or warriors if we spec armor feral?... |
| 20:39.15 | NivFreak | Shefki: I think they are trying to |
| 20:39.22 | KriLL3 | we're a damn hybrid, we should be allowed to heal ourselves |
| 20:39.26 | Shefki | NivFreak: Agreed, especially with feral charge working in cat. |
| 20:39.36 | ckknight | AKX: yes |
| 20:39.49 | Shefki | AKX: Works here, buut don't use disembeded with the addons. It's messed up. |
| 20:39.53 | NivFreak | KriLL3: my warrior is hybrid, why can't he heal? :P |
| 20:39.53 | Lukian | ^ that's one less shapeshift. |
| 20:39.54 | AKX | Great, thanks ckknight. :) |
| 20:40.09 | KriLL3 | it feels like blizz is taking druids more and more in the wrong direction, they're making us less and less hybird and more and more into 4 different classes in one wrapper |
| 20:40.18 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: no warriors aren't hybirds |
| 20:40.38 | KriLL3 | Lukian: you still need to shift to bear to stun or take damage, it doesn't stop the need to constantly shift |
| 20:41.19 | KriLL3 | and to remove CC |
| 20:41.19 | Xuerian | KriLL3: <cough> are tiers (pvp and pve), beyond rep blues, out yet?> |
| 20:41.20 | dodga | KriLL3: Eventually they spread all druid abilities to the other classes and remove the abomination that a druid is :P |
| 20:41.20 | KriLL3 | Xuerian: blizz has said numerous times that feral and rogues will share gear |
| 20:41.20 | NivFreak | KriLL3: per blizzard, warriors ARE hybrids |
| 20:41.20 | Lukian | Xuerian, those aren't rep blues? |
| 20:41.39 | NivFreak | we are a tank/dps hybrid |
| 20:41.52 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: they're not, they can spec dps or tanking but that doesn't make them hybirds, they can't do both roles at once |
| 20:41.55 | AKX | Aaand um, what's the actionbar mod of the now? |
| 20:42.01 | Xuerian | bartender4 |
| 20:42.02 | KriLL3 | a druid can heal and dps |
| 20:42.08 | Lukian | what Xuerian said :) |
| 20:42.31 | CIA-47 | 03shefki * r80819 10AuldLangSyne/FriendList/FriendList.lua: AuldLangSyne_FriendList: Rip out the pre 2.4.3 compat code that is breaking thigns on WotLK and no longer needed. |
| 20:42.43 | AKX | Thanks. |
| 20:43.03 | NivFreak | KriLL3: perhaps you haven't played wrath yet :) |
| 20:43.06 | Xuerian | Lukian: http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/august/lkarena_druidmelee.jpg "Rep blues" |
| 20:43.13 | KriLL3 | I have |
| 20:43.23 | Lukian | Xuerian, could be season 1 gear :p |
| 20:43.35 | Obelixprime | damnit! lithuania lost in the olympic basketball game |
| 20:43.44 | NivFreak | warriors can tank and dps :P |
| 20:43.49 | Xuerian | Lukian: Would you like to add a semantics argument to the real argument, or simply translate what i say into what you likely know I mean? |
| 20:46.13 | Lukian | Xuerian, sure |
| 20:46.22 | Lukian | KriLL3, that set has 200 +heal with talents. |
| 20:46.26 | Xuerian | Go over in your corner then, Lukian |
| 20:46.44 | KriLL3 | no +int though so we can't really heal anyway |
| 20:47.23 | Shefki | No Int is probably a side effect of sharing itemization with rogues. They'll probably fix it by giving mana from some other stat like agi or str. |
| 20:47.42 | NivFreak | KriLL3: my prot pally can cast like 2 holy lights before he's OOM |
| 20:47.43 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 20:47.44 | Lukian | it'll have to be agility |
| 20:47.45 | Xuerian | KriLL3: Item #1: Gear is not final, these pieces are just being introduced. Quest and instance blues match BC gear step for step so far. Item 3: Blizz IS moving towards more viable DPS from feral. |
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| 20:48.06 | Shefki | Lukian: Could be anything, they just have to adjust the scale of how much mana to whatever they wanted. |
| 20:48.22 | Shefki | But agi does make the most sense to me. |
| 20:48.23 | Xuerian | KriLL3: Item #3: Stop being babied, and if you WANT to do everything, go build your own damn gear set like we had to before we got decent gear sets |
| 20:48.37 | Shefki | Since it makes sense to be able to shift more if you're more agile. But *shrug* |
| 20:48.47 | Xuerian | Yeah, I said item 3 twice >_> |
| 20:48.59 | Xelopheris | Hmm, moving in the last 100ms of my cast on beta cancels my cast now O_o |
| 20:49.02 | KriLL3 | Xuerian: I actually like being a hybird |
| 20:49.11 | KriLL3 | being a rogue in all but name doesn't appeal to me |
| 20:49.23 | Xuerian | KriLL3: Awesome, I'm glad you like it. I'm not suggesting you stop. In fact, I suggested you do it. Please goto -2 |
| 20:49.25 | KriLL3 | Xelopheris: errm lag? |
| 20:49.40 | KriLL3 | Xuerian: huh? |
| 20:49.42 | Shefki | I noticed beta doesn't cancel a cast of a CC with "more powerful spell active" until the end of the cast not the start like live. |
| 20:49.53 | Xuerian | KriLL3: Ya know, instructions? goto? nevermind. "Stop being babied, and if you WANT to do everything, go build your own damn gear set like we had to before we got decent gear sets" |
| 20:50.00 | NivFreak | Xuerian: what buff has a cast time? |
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| 20:50.06 | NivFreak | lifebloom? |
| 20:50.09 | NivFreak | heh |
| 20:50.11 | Xuerian | o.0? |
| 20:50.19 | KriLL3 | Xuerian: you're not making any sense |
| 20:50.23 | NivFreak | misfire |
| 20:50.27 | Xuerian | KriLL3: Funny, because you're not making any either |
| 20:50.28 | NivFreak | Shefki: what buff has a cast time? |
| 20:50.38 | Ellipsis | hots? |
| 20:50.40 | Shefki | I didn't say buff. I said CC |
| 20:50.43 | NivFreak | ah |
| 20:50.44 | AKX | And erm, what's the WoTLK-compatible chat mod of the now? |
| 20:50.49 | NivFreak | I'm tired |
| 20:50.53 | Xuerian | AKX: Chatter, in branches iirc |
| 20:50.54 | NivFreak | AKX: prat works fine |
| 20:50.54 | Shefki | So like ohh. Entangling Roots. Hibernate, Cyclone. |
| 20:50.57 | Shefki | Like all of them. |
| 20:50.57 | Xelopheris | Chatter works for the most part |
| 20:50.57 | fewyn | prat-3.0 |
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| 20:51.03 | KriLL3 | Xuerian: I understand that you have yet to try pvp, but trust me, sant int a feral is useless |
| 20:51.09 | AKX | NivFreak, Prat from files didn't work right at all :) |
| 20:51.14 | AKX | I'll check Chatter. |
| 20:51.16 | Shefki | Roots is mostly what it matters with becasue roots does damage that scales based on spell power. |
| 20:51.20 | NivFreak | AKX: wfm |
| 20:51.22 | KriLL3 | the removal of int, heal, hit, str is catastrophic |
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| 20:51.29 | Shefki | So if you have a proc that increases your damage then you can't reroot until it wears. |
| 20:51.29 | NivFreak | I did pull it out of svn |
| 20:51.30 | NivFreak | with externals |
| 20:51.32 | Shefki | Which is annoying as hell. |
| 20:51.47 | Xuerian | KriLL3: Removal? Please show me Season 5 gear. Season 6? Season 7? |
| 20:51.49 | Xuerian | wowhead plz |
| 20:51.56 | Shefki | Unless you do rank stepping. |
| 20:51.57 | AKX | giggles at his AddOns folder. Chatr and Chatter side by side. |
| 20:52.05 | Shefki | Which is now annoying becuase of the downranking change. |
| 20:52.19 | KriLL3 | Xuerian: I know you're not every well informed but blizz has said time and time again that ferals will use the same gear as rogues |
| 20:52.30 | KriLL3 | rogue gear doesn't have int and str |
| 20:52.39 | Xuerian | KriLL3: Oh, I'm sorry. I just saw that whole "Class: Druid" thing, and got all confused-like |
| 20:52.56 | KriLL3 | yeah and if you actually check the stats it's the same as rogue gear |
| 20:53.09 | Xuerian | I even linked the page. I checked the stats. |
| 20:53.12 | KriLL3 | I guess they just wanted to give em different names and perhaps different color |
| 20:53.20 | Xuerian | I also said they just introduced them to the beta client |
| 20:53.23 | KriLL3 | that's the only difference |
| 20:53.25 | NivFreak | and more than likely, if they want your class to function the way you do (which I doubt) you'll end up with a talent that converts agility to int or something like that |
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| 20:53.48 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: that's one more talent you need to waste points on |
| 20:53.58 | Xuerian | And since we already went over blizz beta = everyone else alpha, they're likely to change when pvp people start whining again. |
| 20:54.00 | NivFreak | it doesn't have to be a talent you spend points in |
| 20:54.11 | NivFreak | it can be trainable, it can be part of your base class mechanic |
| 20:54.12 | Xuerian | s/when/since/ |
| 20:54.16 | KriLL3 | atm you can't get most of the nice stuff in the feral tree without some major sacrifices, we got way too many 3/5 talents for base stuff :( |
| 20:54.32 | Polarina | Ok. My character is stuck in Hillsbrad Foothills in mid-air, Dalaran Crater, and I can see people in Borean Thundra. |
| 20:54.36 | NivFreak | KriLL3: they want bloated trees |
| 20:54.41 | NivFreak | for variety |
| 20:54.47 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: it sucks horribly |
| 20:54.53 | NivFreak | uh |
| 20:54.55 | NivFreak | ok |
| 20:55.03 | NivFreak | you'd rather have no talents? |
| 20:55.17 | KriLL3 | I just wish they added a dps and a tanking talent that you couldn't combine or something, instead of making all nice stuff 5 ranked |
| 20:55.23 | Xuerian | I think he wants to click the "Feral" button (one checkmark), and be able to heal/tank/dps in a arena match. :) |
| 20:55.33 | NivFreak | sounds like it |
| 20:55.45 | KriLL3 | if you want berserk and omen you have to skip a ton of stuff in the feral tree |
| 20:55.57 | Xuerian | That's. kindof... the point |
| 20:55.57 | NivFreak | oh no! |
| 20:56.08 | NivFreak | clearly just go buy warfare |
| 20:56.09 | KriLL3 | both are kinda essential to be viable |
| 20:56.17 | Xuerian | KriLL3: The box. Step outside of it |
| 20:56.31 | Xuerian | We know there is a "OMG VIABLE" and "OMG NOT VIABLE" in BC |
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| 20:56.38 | Xuerian | However, we're not talking about bc, are we? |
| 20:56.42 | KriLL3 | no |
| 20:56.44 | KriLL3 | why? |
| 20:56.53 | Xuerian | Because you're comparing BC viable to WotLK viable |
| 20:57.02 | KriLL3 | I got the beta |
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| 20:57.14 | nocts | Does Lyn have a git or googlecode page? |
| 20:57.22 | Xuerian | You doing lots of arenas on there? You tried all the combinations? You used the arena pvp gears? |
| 20:57.28 | Gnarfoz | obviously not |
| 20:57.29 | KriLL3 | you need the lower shapeshift cost talent anyway and omen is 3 more points, especially if you have no +int |
| 20:57.30 | NivFreak | step 1 |
| 20:57.32 | NivFreak | hit lvl 80 |
| 20:57.35 | Gnarfoz | because EU beta has no BGs or arenas |
| 20:57.40 | Gnarfoz | and 80 was unlocked *today* |
| 20:57.45 | Gnarfoz | so he's not 80, either :p |
| 20:57.54 | Xuerian | EXACTLY |
| 20:57.57 | Xuerian | It's not fucking DONE |
| 20:58.02 | Xuerian | -_-; |
| 20:58.05 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: you don't need to be level 80 to know no int on feral gear is utterly broken |
| 20:58.06 | NivFreak | not to mention that the classes have NOT been balanced |
| 20:58.17 | NivFreak | since the lvl cap JUST got axed |
| 20:58.17 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: absolutely not true |
| 20:58.22 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: explain |
| 20:58.27 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: would you say ret paladins need mana in pve? |
| 20:58.29 | Xuerian | KriLL3: You need to be 80 to know that 80 feral gear is "broken" |
| 20:58.37 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: no idea, haven't played one |
| 20:58.49 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: see? live players would probably say they need mana regen for pve. |
| 20:58.55 | Gnarfoz | when in fact, they don't, at all |
| 20:59.06 | KriLL3 | Xuerian: I can strip of all my pvp gear right now and jump into rogue gear with no +int, would totally break me, would that make you happy? |
| 20:59.17 | Polarina | I can disable screenfog! |
| 20:59.19 | Gnarfoz | you're comparing apples with oranges, that is all |
| 20:59.24 | NivFreak | KriLL3: so are you trolling or stupid? |
| 20:59.32 | KriLL3 | neither |
| 20:59.45 | KriLL3 | I can't see why none of you understand that feral druids need +int and +healing |
| 20:59.50 | Xuerian | KriLL3: I really don't care what you do. Quite honestly, it's annoying to me that you are taking 70-77 feral gear and crying about it, when you are a endgame PVPer. Honestly, show me a set of 67 feral gear that's good for pvp. Come on, do it, show me |
| 20:59.52 | KriLL3 | there is a reason it's on our pvp gear |
| 21:00.08 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: there's a reason SO FAR it's on your gear SO FAR |
| 21:00.14 | Gnarfoz | don't you get it? |
| 21:00.18 | Gnarfoz | >_> |
| 21:00.27 | Xuerian | KriLL3: I can't see why you aren't paying attention to what we're saying. We are NOT saying int and healing are unimportant |
| 21:00.41 | KriLL3 | you're trying to tell me I'll somehow magically get a lot more str and int endgame that scales with gear? |
| 21:00.53 | Gnarfoz | no, we are NOT talking about the actual stats AT ALL :p |
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| 21:01.01 | Xuerian | My FIRST statement questioned why you wanted int.. my VERY FIRST. You answered logically, 'pvp'. That was the END. IT. FIN |
| 21:01.22 | Xuerian | The CURRENT discussion is that gear isn't done yet, you're not 80 yet, and 77 gear vs S1-4 70 gear is NOT a valid comparison |
| 21:01.26 | KriLL3 | Xuerian: you're not a pvp:er, I understand that, but you can't base everything in wow around pve |
| 21:01.46 | Xuerian | smiles pleasantly, and pats KriLL3 on the head. |
| 21:01.48 | Gnarfoz | you're so not paying attention KriLL3, that it's starting to hurt |
| 21:01.53 | KriLL3 | a pve feral druid atm has no real need for int, I get that, but pvp does |
| 21:01.54 | Xuerian | I'm going to go stop wasting my time |
| 21:01.59 | Gnarfoz | dito =X |
| 21:02.17 | KriLL3 | seems we have some communication problems |
| 21:02.33 | Gnarfoz | yes, you lack reading comprehension even though we've rephrased 3 times by now ;p |
| 21:02.47 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: nothing you've said has made sense to me |
| 21:02.49 | Gnarfoz | try re-reading it again in 10 minutes, I doubt it's intentional =) |
| 21:03.23 | KriLL3 | so far you've seemed to argue that a level 80 druid has no need for mana, which makes my head hurt |
| 21:03.43 | Gnarfoz | we have not, with one word =) |
| 21:04.20 | KriLL3 | then why defend blizzard's decision to make feral and rogues share the same gear? |
| 21:04.25 | Gnarfoz | we aren't |
| 21:04.38 | KriLL3 | rogue gear doesn't have int, str, heal etc which ferals need |
| 21:04.58 | NivFreak | and getting enraged over a clearly half finished class design, is hilarious |
| 21:05.02 | Gnarfoz | I give up. re-read the conversation from the start some time later please, you're stuck somewhere. :P |
| 21:05.20 | Xuerian | offers Gnarfoz some popcorn. |
| 21:05.25 | NivFreak | if you think any of the classes are going to ship like they are now, you're nuts |
| 21:05.27 | Gnarfoz | (yes, literally NO class balancing has been done in beta so far) |
| 21:05.30 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: it just seems utterly broken, same as blizz saying that ferals will have a lot less armor in LK |
| 21:05.40 | NivFreak | if they do, I'm going to delete all my toons and play my fury warrior only |
| 21:05.41 | NivFreak | haha |
| 21:06.02 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: do you perceive negative changes in a beta as a "nerf"? |
| 21:06.04 | NivFreak | KriLL3: and they have said over and over that YOU WILL HAVE CLASS MECHANICS TO COMPENSATE FOR THE LACK OF ARMOR |
| 21:06.15 | NivFreak | does caps help? |
| 21:06.18 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: more dodge? yay no rage |
| 21:06.26 | Xuerian | NivFreak: I tried it, it doesn't. |
| 21:06.37 | Gnarfoz | where do you read "more dodge" in "class mechanics"? |
| 21:06.41 | NivFreak | KriLL3: I'd like to ask my previous question again |
| 21:06.46 | NivFreak | KriLL3: are you trolling or stupid? |
| 21:06.50 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: that's our only form of damage mitigation other than armor |
| 21:06.52 | Gnarfoz | you don't even know what "class mechanics" is gonna be, because it's not finished |
| 21:07.10 | KriLL3 | what else could it be? |
| 21:07.17 | NivFreak | KriLL3: You started playing in TBC didn't you |
| 21:07.24 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: nope |
| 21:07.26 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: who knows? IT'S NOT DONE |
| 21:07.29 | Gnarfoz | >_> |
| 21:07.30 | KriLL3 | I started playing in the closed beta |
| 21:07.43 | NivFreak | so then you should know better |
| 21:07.45 | Gnarfoz | another obvious sign blizz hands out keys to entirely random people :D |
| 21:07.54 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: yeah but I somehow doubt blizz will make a total U turn in their changes to druids |
| 21:08.05 | njal | grr |
| 21:08.20 | Shardless | Thay have done 180's with other classes why not druid? |
| 21:08.27 | KriLL3 | so far they seem hellbent on making us less and less hybrid like |
| 21:08.31 | njal | how do I create a FontString with white colored text? |
| 21:08.37 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: uhm yeah... if you're already "conviced" of stuff that no-one except blizzard themselves have any knowledge about, then obviously all is already settled. |
| 21:08.44 | Xuerian | njal: :SetTextColor(1, 1, 1) |
| 21:09.02 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: they've said we will share rogue gear and have less armor, what does that tell you? |
| 21:09.15 | Primer | nerf rogues? |
| 21:09.20 | Shardless | lol |
| 21:09.27 | Xuerian | njal: Or, |cFFFFFFFFwhatever|r |
| 21:09.28 | njal | aha, thanks :) how could I miss that |
| 21:09.38 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: it tells me you read so much between the lines that you start imaging shit that isn't there :p |
| 21:09.39 | KriLL3 | there are no other leather casters so resto/bal will have their own gear still, but ferals wont, that's kinda odd |
| 21:09.44 | Xinhuan | it tells me that they will make a agi give more stats to a rogue than to a druid ;p |
| 21:10.01 | NivFreak | KriLL3: think of it like paladins |
| 21:10.06 | KriLL3 | what of them? |
| 21:10.15 | KriLL3 | they'll share gear with DK and warriors |
| 21:10.16 | NivFreak | holy paladins will have thier own gear |
| 21:10.28 | NivFreak | the rest will be shared, yes |
| 21:10.36 | KriLL3 | so? |
| 21:10.54 | KriLL3 | retri doesn't need other gear than a warrior, right? |
| 21:10.56 | Shardless | Just like a moonkin will have its own gear where as feral may share with rougue |
| 21:11.06 | Shardless | rogue^^ |
| 21:11.07 | NivFreak | KriLL3: right, because they changed thier CLASS MECHANICS |
| 21:11.26 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: don't they still need mana to execute almost all attacks? |
| 21:11.33 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 21:11.44 | NivFreak | last I checked they still have mana |
| 21:11.44 | Gnarfoz | didn't I just say something about ret paladins 5 minutes ago |
| 21:11.46 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 21:11.48 | Lukian | KriLL3, not really, they get most of it back via talents |
| 21:11.48 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: yes |
| 21:11.49 | Gnarfoz | they don't need int |
| 21:11.57 | NivFreak | news flash |
| 21:12.02 | NivFreak | classes have base intellect |
| 21:12.09 | Gnarfoz | more at 11 |
| 21:12.12 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:12.26 | KriLL3 | Lukian: errm the only thing that balanced retri's instance burst was their small manapool which made em go oom after the first burst, if they can keep going forever they'll be insane |
| 21:12.34 | NivFreak | oh wait |
| 21:12.37 | NivFreak | wait for it |
| 21:12.41 | NivFreak | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/august/lkhonor_druidnuker.jpg |
| 21:12.42 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: base int is enough to shift like 4-5 times for a druid |
| 21:12.54 | NivFreak | WHAT IS THAT! |
| 21:13.04 | KriLL3 | oomkin gear |
| 21:13.04 | NivFreak | heh |
| 21:13.12 | Lukian | KriLL3, my comment was directed towards a pve environment :P |
| 21:13.27 | KriLL3 | I don't care about pve |
| 21:13.30 | NivFreak | you could mix that |
| 21:13.31 | NivFreak | :P |
| 21:13.52 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: yeah but it's less than ideal |
| 21:13.55 | nocts | Dominos doesn't seem to be showing possession bars. Anyone else? |
| 21:14.06 | Lukian | KriLL3, they are barely thinking about pvp atm :p |
| 21:14.25 | KriLL3 | it just seems like a step back from TBC when ferals finally got items meant for them instead of using rogue leather and warrior 2 hands |
| 21:14.26 | NivFreak | spell power == healing, crit works for both melee and casting |
| 21:14.42 | NivFreak | KriLL3: the difference is, everyone is sharing now |
| 21:14.47 | Gnarfoz | the DIFFERENCE is |
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| 21:14.52 | Gnarfoz | TBC is done |
| 21:14.55 | Gnarfoz | LK is not |
| 21:15.11 | Gnarfoz | wait until they actually start balancing stuff, be it for PVE or PVP |
| 21:15.16 | Gnarfoz | they have done neither, yet |
| 21:15.23 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: a huge mistake imo, will make everyone look the same and everyone need to gem/ench the stats that are missing |
| 21:15.26 | Gnarfoz | maybe they'll even enable battlegrounds! |
| 21:15.48 | NivFreak | KriLL3: and think of the void crystals! the poor void crystals! |
| 21:15.53 | KriLL3 | I'd have to get a full set of str and int gems and enchants just to be able to shift |
| 21:15.59 | Gnarfoz | you'd have to |
| 21:16.11 | Gnarfoz | wait until you are 80 and have tested what you're spouting. that is all. |
| 21:16.30 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: a feral with a small manapool is sitting duck |
| 21:16.39 | Gnarfoz | he is in TBC live |
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| 21:16.53 | Gnarfoz | what the FUCK do you know about LK when no one is 80 and BGs and arenas are disabled?! |
| 21:16.58 | Gnarfoz | and no balancing has been done? |
| 21:17.06 | Gnarfoz | have we gotten through to you by now? |
| 21:17.14 | KriLL3 | at 80 shifting will not be cheaper... |
| 21:17.18 | Gnarfoz | SAYS WHO? |
| 21:17.20 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: No, no, he doesn't realize it, but he's agreeing. He says "Is", not "will be" :D |
| 21:17.34 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: gimme some o' dat popcorn |
| 21:17.47 | Gnarfoz | =X |
| 21:17.50 | Xuerian | hands Gnarfoz a bowl of popcorn and a mexican-currypowder shaker. |
| 21:18.09 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: it costs a % of your base mana, thus you can't shift more than a set amount of times if you don't have any +int |
| 21:18.14 | KriLL3 | no matter what your level is |
| 21:18.29 | Xinhuan | excuse me, wotlk is a brand new game, its not tbc |
| 21:18.32 | Gnarfoz | so, maybe they'll take that back? |
| 21:18.36 | Xinhuan | comparing the 2 is like apples and oranges |
| 21:18.37 | Xuerian | cheers as another present-tense flies across the field of battle, a long trail of blood following behind. |
| 21:18.44 | Shardless | well by that logic if its a percentage no matter your mana pool the amount of shifts would be the same |
| 21:18.48 | Gnarfoz | because when it's actually being tested, they notice that ferals shift 3-4 times and the go OOM? |
| 21:18.55 | Xuerian | hands Xinhuan a bowl of popcorn too. |
| 21:18.57 | Gnarfoz | or maybe they won't and all ferals in arenas will be fucked |
| 21:19.03 | Neo|Other | Shardless: percentage of base mana. not total mana |
| 21:19.06 | NivFreak | Shardless: base mana |
| 21:19.16 | Gnarfoz | neither has happened yet - still you are stating that the latter has, indeed, happened |
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| 21:19.43 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: I already said the apples vs. oranges thing 30 minutes ago, me sad :( |
| 21:19.52 | Shardless | oh haha missed that, should start paying more attention i suppose |
| 21:20.07 | KriLL3 | well what could they do to remedy the situation? make a certain % of your agi into mana/int?... |
| 21:20.18 | NivFreak | amazing! |
| 21:20.22 | Gnarfoz | I don't now, but by all means, tell the suggestion forums! |
| 21:20.34 | Gnarfoz | *know |
| 21:20.54 | Neo|Other | KriLL3: and who says they won't? |
| 21:20.56 | KriLL3 | I just can't see the point of making almost everyone share gear |
| 21:21.00 | NivFreak | now now, I don't want to make you cry |
| 21:21.01 | NivFreak | but |
| 21:21.05 | NivFreak | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/august/lkarena_druidmelee.jpg |
| 21:21.09 | NivFreak | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/august/lkarena_rogue.jpg |
| 21:21.13 | NivFreak | zomg they look the same! |
| 21:21.16 | KriLL3 | Neo|Other: it would remove the need to prioritize |
| 21:21.31 | Lukian | NivFreak, really? I didn't notice, I was in cat form. |
| 21:21.38 | NivFreak | Lukian: haha |
| 21:21.44 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: S4 and sunwell gear is already like that, which is utterly retarded imo |
| 21:21.45 | [dRaCo] | NivFreak: oh noes! nerf! |
| 21:21.56 | Xinhuan | making them share gear is to reduce gear wastage |
| 21:22.02 | Xinhuan | blizzard said at WWI |
| 21:22.05 | NivFreak | yep |
| 21:22.08 | NivFreak | less resets, more gear |
| 21:22.11 | NivFreak | more content |
| 21:22.11 | NivFreak | win |
| 21:22.13 | Xuerian | Lukian: Lol, touche' |
| 21:22.14 | KriLL3 | making everyone look nearly identical and mage everyone wearing the same armor type identical is just plain lazy |
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| 21:22.21 | KriLL3 | *make |
| 21:22.24 | Xinhuan | if moonkin boots drop, you dont' want to go "wtf moonkin boots again" or "if only so and so is in the raid" |
| 21:22.27 | Daemona | ... euro beta is teh pwn |
| 21:22.36 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: I heard. |
| 21:22.36 | KriLL3 | I'd like to be able to see if it's a pala/dk/warrior by looking at em... |
| 21:22.40 | Daemona | i stoped counting world server down after the 7th ... |
| 21:22.53 | NivFreak | Daemona: sounds like US beta |
| 21:22.53 | KriLL3 | Xinhuan: I'm not a pve:er, I could care less about drops |
| 21:23.06 | Xinhuan | except pvpers comprise a small portion of the population |
| 21:23.10 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: gave my 3rd beta key to a friend and all I keep getting on ICQ today is "has it been THIS BAD all the time? QQ QQ QQ" |
| 21:23.12 | Xinhuan | so i could say the same and i could care less about pvpers |
| 21:23.19 | KriLL3 | there is no good reason to make pvp sets you buy with honor/arena points all the same |
| 21:23.21 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: give me your 4th please |
| 21:23.25 | Neo|Other | as a note the existing new pvp armor uses sunwell graphics |
| 21:23.27 | dodga | Oh world server down? Damn cat tripped the cable again. I'll fix it, sec. |
| 21:23.32 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: sure |
| 21:23.35 | Neo|Other | that's not exactly necessarily going to be the final models |
| 21:23.39 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: :) |
| 21:23.45 | Gnarfoz | Neo|Other: no WAY |
| 21:23.48 | NivFreak | I've been playing on a friends key |
| 21:23.52 | KriLL3 | world server down on a weekend evening? I'm shocked, truly. |
| 21:23.57 | Gnarfoz | Neo|Other: PH doesn't stand for PLACEHOLDER, AMIRITE? |
| 21:23.57 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: Response "It was worse, that's why this is beta and not alpha." |
| 21:24.00 | Xinhuan | i just find it funny that you expect a "i can't care less about pvers" argument to go through |
| 21:24.10 | Neo|Other | Gnarfoz: it can also be intended |
| 21:24.19 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: heh yeah, that was one I tried, it still resulted in more QQ |
| 21:24.20 | Neo|Other | not like there werent pre-bc stuff reused during BC |
| 21:24.22 | Xinhuan | because most people in the game do a bit of both |
| 21:24.26 | KriLL3 | Xinhuan: why does pvp sets have to suffer from pve re-designs? |
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| 21:24.37 | Xinhuan | blizzard clearly stated the reasons |
| 21:24.41 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 21:24.42 | Xinhuan | they want the gear to have crossovers |
| 21:24.44 | Shefki | If you want reliability go play live. |
| 21:24.49 | Neo|Other | KriLL3: I wondered that too. makes the ezmode pvp epics look like they belonged to ppl with skills! |
| 21:24.51 | NivFreak | KriLL3: why does PVE have to suffer from PVP rebalancing |
| 21:24.52 | KriLL3 | Xinhuan: that's not possible with resilience |
| 21:25.00 | Xinhuan | that's what they are changing |
| 21:25.09 | KriLL3 | Neo|Other: pvp is less ezmode than pve |
| 21:25.11 | Xinhuan | so that it isn't like it is in tbc |
| 21:25.18 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: or so "pros" say. :P |
| 21:25.25 | Xinhuan | they want the gear to crossover so that ppl in pve can cross over to pvp easily |
| 21:25.27 | Xinhuan | and vice versa |
| 21:25.31 | Neo|Other | KriLL3: yeah, we got pleny of loot from M'uru so far, I mean we have wiped for 2 months |
| 21:25.38 | NivFreak | haha |
| 21:25.39 | Xinhuan | again pointing towards gear sharing |
| 21:25.41 | Neo|Other | or... yeah, in pve you actually have to kill stuff and win to get loot |
| 21:25.44 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: in pvp you actually have to pay attention and be good to get anywhere past BGs, pve can be done with a cast sequence macro |
| 21:25.45 | Xinhuan | i think its clear you haven't been reading blue posts |
| 21:25.56 | NivFreak | most of the high rated pvpers tend to be in high end pve guilds too |
| 21:25.56 | Xinhuan | about their design goals |
| 21:26.00 | NivFreak | shocking I know |
| 21:26.25 | KriLL3 | Neo|Other: you're fighting a collection of pre-defined events, you don't need to improvise outside of a working plan |
| 21:26.33 | NivFreak | KriLL3: that's the most ignorant statement I've heard out of you yet |
| 21:26.37 | NivFreak | and that's saying something |
| 21:26.56 | NivFreak | pve is not simon says |
| 21:27.03 | KriLL3 | it is |
| 21:27.06 | Shefki | Ohh geez can we not have this retarded PVE vs PVP debate. |
| 21:27.23 | NivFreak | here's a tip, good players excel a both |
| 21:27.25 | Fisker- | pve is simon says |
| 21:27.28 | NivFreak | and bad fail and bitch about the other |
| 21:27.29 | Xuerian | Yeah, we're kindof crossing a whole new threshold. I mean, I like popcorn and all, but I don't have that much of it |
| 21:27.29 | Fisker- | but here's a shocker |
| 21:27.32 | Fisker- | simon doesn't say shit |
| 21:27.33 | Fisker- | now shut up |
| 21:27.36 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: a boss has a defined set of reactions all of which can be predicted, true? |
| 21:27.36 | Neo|Other | if PvE is Simon Says, PvP is playing in the sandbox with your truck.. |
| 21:28.03 | Shefki | KriLL3: There are random elements in PVE but who cares. |
| 21:28.04 | NivFreak | KriLL3: not true, many boss encounters rely heavily on reactions to random use of abilities |
| 21:28.04 | Xuerian | snorts, inhaling a kernal of popcorn.. subsequently choking. |
| 21:28.11 | Xinhuan | nobody's arguing pvp requires skill |
| 21:28.18 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: kernel, pls ;) |
| 21:28.23 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: he is! |
| 21:28.23 | Shefki | This is like debating if people should play Zelda or Duke Nukem. |
| 21:28.24 | Xinhuan | its more the fact you are downplaying pve that everyone has a problem with |
| 21:28.27 | NivFreak | last I checked, I can predict a rogue opener in arena too |
| 21:28.29 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: lol something worth arguing about |
| 21:28.32 | Shefki | You're never going to agree. |
| 21:28.33 | NivFreak | shocking, which stun do I trinket again? |
| 21:28.51 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: lol @ that analogy, nice :D |
| 21:28.54 | KriLL3 | Xinhuan: I did raid, I know what it's like |
| 21:28.55 | Xinhuan | the game is revolved around both pve and pvp |
| 21:28.57 | NivFreak | Shefki: my debate is different, my point is bad players bitch about one or the other |
| 21:29.03 | Xinhuan | they are linked |
| 21:29.05 | NivFreak | and try to belittle it |
| 21:29.12 | Shefki | I suck at PVP and know it. |
| 21:29.15 | Shefki | I don't care. |
| 21:29.16 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: you probably "let yourself be taken on a raid" which is something completely different :p |
| 21:29.21 | Xinhuan | no matter how you look at it, pvp has suffered because of pvp and pvp has suffered because of pve |
| 21:29.28 | NivFreak | and certainly, no one ever gets carried in arenas! |
| 21:29.29 | Shefki | PVP is for all practically purposes a different game, a different set of skills. |
| 21:29.30 | NivFreak | it doesn't happen! |
| 21:29.35 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: no I was in the guild that first killed nefarian on our server |
| 21:29.35 | NivFreak | all arena players have mad skills! |
| 21:29.42 | Shefki | Some people excel at different things. |
| 21:29.47 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: and in a 40man raid, how many people mattered? |
| 21:29.50 | Shefki | Thank god we're not all trashmen. |
| 21:29.53 | NivFreak | I mean, I must be amazing, I have basically all of the arena gear from s3 when I last played! |
| 21:29.56 | Gnarfoz | let me tell you: about 20 |
| 21:30.03 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:30.06 | Daemona | grgls |
| 21:30.07 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: I very much doubt 25 raiding is different |
| 21:30.17 | NivFreak | KriLL3: it's a lot different |
| 21:30.26 | NivFreak | and shocking, you haven't done it |
| 21:30.27 | Xinhuan | you're mistaken then |
| 21:30.28 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: you were saying? :D |
| 21:30.31 | KriLL3 | you still got a defined set of tasts against an enemy that doesn't improvise |
| 21:30.34 | KriLL3 | *tasks |
| 21:30.40 | Xinhuan | more than 1 death in a 25 man usually means a wipe in sunwell |
| 21:30.50 | Shefki | An enemy that doesn't improvise but vastly out guns you. |
| 21:30.51 | Primer | You know what would be cool? Non-AI bosses. |
| 21:30.52 | Daemona | damn i can play for the first time this week and the beta server is worse than live realms on release of vanilla |
| 21:30.52 | Gnarfoz | and you don't know everything your enemy in pvp can do to you? what kind of pvper are you, if you don't? |
| 21:31.21 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: watch out, he might cast cyclone! |
| 21:31.22 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: :X |
| 21:31.25 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: a pvp:er improvises and thinks creatively |
| 21:31.26 | NivFreak | didn't see that coming! |
| 21:31.31 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: sure, I wank creatively |
| 21:31.37 | Daemona | sure, and a MS warrior casts cyclone |
| 21:31.37 | KriLL3 | no doubt |
| 21:31.42 | Primer | It'd be like joining a bg, except you join to play the boss. Every time you wipe the group, you get...a badge! |
| 21:31.44 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: :D |
| 21:32.01 | NivFreak | Primer: dailies what? |
| 21:32.03 | NivFreak | hah |
| 21:32.14 | Gnarfoz | the only creativity I've seen in pvp was people spamming DIFFERENT emotes at me than the other guy. |
| 21:32.15 | Daemona | KriLL3 you know what styles your opponent has and can predict when he will use em |
| 21:32.17 | Primer | no...YOU are the boss! |
| 21:32.19 | *** join/#wowace lagger (n=kimble@c-71-232-110-143.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 21:32.23 | Shefki | LFM for M'uru failures. Get a badge quick. |
| 21:32.29 | lagger | anyone know how GetComboPoints works now |
| 21:32.32 | lagger | in beta |
| 21:32.39 | Shefki | See my post in the UI forums on 3.0 |
| 21:32.39 | Primer | And you fight against players. |
| 21:32.41 | Daemona | average joe priest WILL insta fear after getting out of the cheapshot, premium rogue will simply cloak |
| 21:32.42 | Xinhuan | works the same? |
| 21:32.46 | Gnarfoz | lagger: try a diff of the UI code, or what Shefki said |
| 21:32.49 | Shefki | No it's changed. |
| 21:32.49 | Daemona | see the parallels to pve? |
| 21:32.55 | lagger | GetComboPoints("unit"[,"target"]) |
| 21:33.00 | lagger | whats the 2nd arg for |
| 21:33.04 | Shefki | The target. |
| 21:33.10 | Shefki | unit is who you want combo points. |
| 21:33.10 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it says "target" :p |
| 21:33.13 | Shefki | target is which target. |
| 21:33.17 | KriLL3 | Daemona: to some degree, but no where near as accurate as you can predict boss behavior, and most pve players can stick to a single cast sequence macro since they only fulfill one function, tanking, dps or healing |
| 21:33.21 | Gnarfoz | it's all being laid out for us now |
| 21:33.22 | Shefki | You can have combo points on more than one target. |
| 21:33.25 | Gnarfoz | other people's buff timers |
| 21:33.30 | Gnarfoz | and other peoples combo points |
| 21:33.30 | Gnarfoz | etc |
| 21:33.33 | Shefki | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202271194&postId=91849937033&sid=1#118 |
| 21:33.34 | lagger | um |
| 21:33.35 | Gnarfoz | so you have to specifiy relations |
| 21:33.35 | KriLL3 | in pvp you need to use almost all your spells/abilities |
| 21:33.36 | lagger | what can u replace unit with |
| 21:33.41 | Gnarfoz | all valid units. |
| 21:33.41 | KriLL3 | in pve you need 5 |
| 21:33.48 | Shefki | lagger: Go read the URL I just linked. |
| 21:33.51 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: oh, count up those 5, will you |
| 21:33.54 | lagger | kk |
| 21:33.56 | Polarina | Could someone here forward this to Blizzard? http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5552255460&postId=55517361986&sid=1#18 |
| 21:34.09 | Polarina | I really want Arthas to have the ability Snow Corn Wind. |
| 21:34.15 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 21:34.17 | lagger | so you can |
| 21:34.19 | lagger | get the combo points |
| 21:34.19 | NivFreak | how many abilities do I use raiding |
| 21:34.21 | lagger | of your target now? |
| 21:34.30 | Shefki | Yes. |
| 21:34.42 | Xinhuan | i don't get why krill is arguing so heavily - nobody is objecting that pvp requires more skill |
| 21:34.42 | Gnarfoz | sounds fun. |
| 21:34.43 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:34.55 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: it requires more activity, not more skill |
| 21:34.56 | Neo|Other | I think we can all agree that KriLL3 has no experience in 25-man raiding and that everything he says about it safely can be ignored, so let's ignore it |
| 21:34.57 | Gnarfoz | ;> |
| 21:34.59 | Shefki | lagger: I haven't figured out if you can GetComboPoints() on enemy units yet. |
| 21:35.01 | Neo|Other | it's not worth the effort |
| 21:35.04 | NivFreak | I stopped at 15 |
| 21:35.07 | Daemona | Xinhuan no, for pvp you need more selective skills |
| 21:35.07 | NivFreak | yep, pve is easy |
| 21:35.12 | Adirelle | damn, I spent my last golds in buying the fifth stable slot, and now I can't learn the new levels of mining and first aid ... |
| 21:35.24 | Daemona | eu or us? |
| 21:35.27 | Daemona | @ Adirelle |
| 21:35.27 | Shefki | First aid is on the trainer now? |
| 21:35.34 | Adirelle | Daemona: eu |
| 21:35.40 | Daemona | horde or alliance |
| 21:35.51 | Adirelle | both, but playing my ally atm |
| 21:35.52 | NivFreak | if pvp required "more skill" then all pvpers would be great raiders by default, right? |
| 21:35.55 | NivFreak | :P |
| 21:35.59 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: duhhh. |
| 21:36.00 | dodga | ahaha By fire be purged! |
| 21:36.04 | dodga | Man I loved Raggy |
| 21:36.05 | Daemona | well you loose if you need it on the ally ;) |
| 21:36.07 | Xinhuan | almost every pvper i know is a great raider |
| 21:36.21 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: and vice versa |
| 21:36.26 | Xinhuan | everyone above 2100 rating is a sunwell guild |
| 21:36.26 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: that's not the same statement ;) |
| 21:36.27 | Shefki | Xinhuan: Ohh I know some 2k+ PVPers that are horrible at raiding. |
| 21:36.40 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: all of the top end arena folks I know were top end pve first |
| 21:36.44 | Shefki | They have excellent awareness but suck at pushing the limits on dps. |
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| 21:37.00 | Xinhuan | awareness is often a superior thing to have compared to pushing the limits |
| 21:37.04 | Gnarfoz | "don't stand in the fire" is more important than DPS in most fights, anyway |
| 21:37.06 | Xinhuan | awareness is soemthing you can't teach |
| 21:37.11 | Xinhuan | but pushing the limits is something you can |
| 21:37.18 | Gnarfoz | press 2 harder. |
| 21:37.21 | Gnarfoz | 22222222222222222222222222222 |
| 21:37.23 | Gnarfoz | :D |
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| 21:37.31 | Gnarfoz | or variants thereof ;) |
| 21:37.37 | NivFreak | well |
| 21:37.39 | NivFreak | to be fair |
| 21:37.41 | NivFreak | he is a feral druid |
| 21:37.54 | NivFreak | they are pretty fucking simple in pve |
| 21:38.01 | lagger | how do you guys extract the wotlk interface data |
| 21:38.07 | lagger | addon kit doesnt work for me |
| 21:38.11 | Gnarfoz | addon kit works fine? |
| 21:38.16 | Xinhuan | i use MyWarcraftStudio |
| 21:38.17 | Gnarfoz | also, MPQ extractors of all sorts |
| 21:38.20 | Xinhuan | to extract any file in any mpq |
| 21:38.32 | NivFreak | btw |
| 21:38.36 | Shefki | lagger: Did that post answer your questions? |
| 21:38.38 | NivFreak | I demand my prot paladin be viable in arenas |
| 21:38.43 | NivFreak | and my prot warrior |
| 21:38.53 | lagger | yeah it did shefki thanks |
| 21:39.36 | Shefki | Good, figured someone else would need that and I had to figure it out experimentally last night to fix PitBull |
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| 21:39.53 | NivFreak | Shefki: which part of pitbull? :P |
| 21:40.11 | Shefki | The Combo Points module. |
| 21:40.13 | NivFreak | ah |
| 21:40.26 | NivFreak | I hear auras are working again? |
| 21:40.42 | Shefki | I fixed that ages ago. |
| 21:40.44 | Xinhuan | ck said he fixed it |
| 21:40.45 | lagger | o wowcompares has beta addons i can dl nice |
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| 21:41.47 | Shefki | Though I think ck did something else to auras after me but that was before I had a beta key and was just drycoding based on what announced changes were. |
| 21:42.26 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 21:42.30 | NivFreak | I wonder if actionbarsaver works yet |
| 21:42.36 | Shefki | But yeah I fixed the Combo Points module and added the focus frame to the Hide Blizzard module last night. |
| 21:43.14 | Xinhuan | only took blizz 2 years to add a focus frame ;d |
| 21:43.48 | Shefki | God I hope they made the UNIT_ events fired for focus actually work right all the time now. |
| 21:47.18 | lagger | what file is RAID_CLASS_COLORS in again |
| 21:47.43 | Xinhuan | Fonts |
| 21:47.48 | Shefki | grep is your friend. :) |
| 21:48.00 | Xinhuan | fonts.xml i think |
| 21:48.11 | Shefki | Fish are friends not food. |
| 21:48.23 | lagger | it isnt anymore |
| 21:48.24 | lagger | on beta |
| 21:48.56 | Xinhuan | maybe Fontstyle.xml then |
| 21:49.02 | Xinhuan | use a bit of imagination and extrapolation |
| 21:49.20 | lagger | o it is |
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| 21:50.02 | Vulcanus | ~lart fewyn |
| 21:50.02 | purl | hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at fewyn |
| 21:50.10 | fewyn | ~lart Vulcanus |
| 21:50.10 | purl | hereby declares Vulcanus a troll |
| 21:50.26 | Xinhuan | ~lart purl |
| 21:50.26 | purl | installs a bad bootloader on xinhuan and turns xinhuan into a brick |
| 21:50.35 | Xinhuan | HEY not fair |
| 21:50.37 | Shefki | lol |
| 21:50.41 | Shefki | That one is awesome. |
| 21:51.05 | Adirelle | erf, the eu beta server never forgets to remember you you're on beta... |
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| 21:51.33 | Gnarfoz | *remind |
| 21:51.40 | Primer | Is there any option in the default UI to make hovers appear at the cursor? |
| 21:51.46 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 21:51.56 | Primer | I simply can't get used to hovers being in a static place |
| 21:51.59 | Adirelle | Gnarfoz: thx |
| 21:52.01 | Primer | it's crappy |
| 21:52.40 | Polarina | What do I do when I lost my password to the SVN? |
| 21:52.40 | Adirelle | i can't get used to hovers that cover half of your field of vision |
| 21:53.00 | Adirelle | Polarina: burn a candle and pray, or ask some svn admin to send you a new one |
| 21:53.24 | Polarina | Adirelle: And where can I contact the svn admins? |
| 21:53.50 | Adirelle | here, but I must admit I only know one : Kaelten |
| 21:54.02 | Gnarfoz | the wiki helps |
| 21:54.02 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 21:54.09 | Polarina | Link? |
| 21:54.21 | dodga | www.com :> |
| 21:54.26 | Adirelle | yeah, too, you may even find a email |
| 21:54.46 | Primer | I seems there's this icon over my head that emits a purple light and looks like the batman call signal...wtf |
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| 21:55.02 | Neo|Other | Primer: Eradication I believe |
| 21:55.07 | Polarina | Primer: Ultraviolet? |
| 21:55.27 | Primer | Supposed to only last 12 seconds though |
| 21:55.33 | Primer | but it's not going away |
| 21:55.38 | Neo|Other | seems a bunch of abilities/talents have have effects when they trigger are permanently triggered |
| 21:55.44 | Primer | lovely |
| 21:55.47 | Neo|Other | like DK's with bloodworm talent are perma-green |
| 21:55.58 | fewyn | any tutorials on how to use git as an end user? |
| 21:56.38 | Xinhuan | yes, google "git manual" |
| 21:56.49 | Xinhuan | the first 2 chapters teach what u need to know as a end user |
| 21:56.51 | dodga | git --help? :> |
| 21:56.58 | dodga | *runs* |
| 21:57.10 | Neo|Other | to change the subject - used the eye of kilrogg pull method on muru... saved us a rotation indeed |
| 21:57.24 | Neo|Other | not that we overall did any better but alas |
| 21:57.35 | NivFreak | you guys still haven't downed muru? |
| 21:57.41 | fewyn | fail! |
| 21:57.42 | Neo|Other | no |
| 21:57.44 | NivFreak | ouch =/ |
| 21:57.47 | NivFreak | not that I have |
| 21:57.48 | Xinhuan | i wonder if that is considered "creative use of mechanics" or "exploit of unintended side effects" |
| 21:57.50 | fewyn | comforts NeoTron |
| 21:57.53 | NivFreak | but I know you've been on him for a long time |
| 21:58.02 | Neo|Other | all night last night - two solid phase 2, one being our best at 50ish % |
| 21:58.12 | Neo|Other | just over 2 months |
| 21:58.16 | fewyn | i hear it's heavy on the consumable usage |
| 21:58.21 | NivFreak | what's tripping you guys up? |
| 21:58.30 | Neo|Other | idiotic mistakes mainyl |
| 21:58.37 | NivFreak | same people over and over? |
| 21:58.43 | Neo|Other | to a degree but not fully |
| 21:58.47 | Xinhuan | its ok, my guild hasn't got past muru phase 1 yet |
| 21:58.55 | Neo|Other | part of the issue is not being able to raid due to the right people not being online |
| 21:59.09 | NivFreak | yea, that's pretty common right now |
| 21:59.14 | Xinhuan | our issue is aggro holding on the waves |
| 21:59.26 | Neo|Other | lose adds is an issue |
| 21:59.36 | Neo|Other | dps killing themself when on adds too |
| 21:59.52 | Xinhuan | our problem is mainly healers pulling the initial aggro |
| 21:59.58 | Xinhuan | and once a healer dies, ppl start dying |
| 22:00.00 | fewyn | bbiab |
| 22:00.10 | Neo|Other | how many healers do you run with out of curiosity? |
| 22:00.15 | Xinhuan | 6 for muru |
| 22:00.29 | Neo|Other | we use 7 after the nerf |
| 22:01.50 | Polarina | Is it possible for me to get into Russian realms without having to pay my subscription in rubbles? |
| 22:02.06 | KriLL3 | why would you want to do that? |
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| 22:02.14 | dieck | russians living abroad? |
| 22:02.15 | Polarina | KriLL3: For fun? |
| 22:02.31 | Gnarfoz | yes it is, ruRU is part of wow-europe, afaik? |
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| 22:02.49 | Gnarfoz | hm, no it isn't |
| 22:02.51 | Gnarfoz | :X |
| 22:02.51 | Primer | World Server is Down! |
| 22:03.00 | KriLL3 | dieck: errm can't you pay anywhere in any currency and it's converted into roubles automagically? |
| 22:03.03 | Polarina | Gnarfoz: Well, it is, but I need a russian client. |
| 22:03.08 | Gnarfoz | you don't? |
| 22:03.15 | dieck | KriLL3: dunno, ask Polarina :) |
| 22:03.19 | Polarina | Gnarfoz: I do need one. |
| 22:03.21 | KriLL3 | my account got Kronor in it and I pay blizzard in euros |
| 22:03.25 | Gnarfoz | why would you need a russian client for it |
| 22:03.25 | KriLL3 | np |
| 22:03.32 | Polarina | Gnarfoz: Ask Blizzard. |
| 22:03.38 | Gnarfoz | I'm asking you! |
| 22:03.41 | dieck | KriLL3: Kronor? swedish? |
| 22:03.44 | Polarina | Gnarfoz: Russian realms = Russian client is must have. |
| 22:03.48 | KriLL3 | dieck: duh |
| 22:03.53 | Gnarfoz | Polarina: ... says who, where, WHY |
| 22:03.55 | Gnarfoz | damnit |
| 22:03.55 | Polarina | Gnarfoz: I can't get on russian realms from english client. |
| 22:03.55 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 22:04.06 | Gnarfoz | have you *tried* other than "they're not in my list"? |
| 22:04.09 | Gnarfoz | i.e. changing realm list? |
| 22:04.22 | Polarina | Gnarfoz: I'm not that dump. |
| 22:04.25 | Polarina | Gnarfoz: Yes, I have. |
| 22:04.36 | lagger | is there some reason |
| 22:04.41 | lagger | why the beta server crashes every 30 minutes |
| 22:04.49 | Gnarfoz | people here tend to be dumber than one would assume, pardon my thoroughness. :p |
| 22:04.52 | KriLL3 | isn't all text on the russian realms in that gobeligoop charset? wouldn't a non russian client just look at the text in utter confusion? |
| 22:05.05 | Gnarfoz | what would the client need to know the text for? |
| 22:05.09 | Gnarfoz | you are the one who would be confused. |
| 22:05.27 | KriLL3 | to display it? |
| 22:05.28 | Gnarfoz | and it's "gobledegook" and "ISO-Something" :P |
| 22:05.43 | Gnarfoz | it would simply display it? |
| 22:05.48 | ReAn | anyone know any Unitframe addons that work with the latest beta build? ag_UnitFrames just asploded |
| 22:05.54 | Gnarfoz | if your font doesn't have the characters... you're fucked? :p |
| 22:05.57 | Gnarfoz | ReAn: exploded |
| 22:06.15 | Gnarfoz | also, which version are you using, ReAn? branches/Ace3-WotLK or the one from WoWI? |
| 22:06.33 | ReAn | i got it from someone in here |
| 22:06.36 | ReAn | a while back |
| 22:06.38 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: the enEU client can't display russian, I played on the non official russian realm before I managed to escape it and russian characters don't show |
| 22:06.42 | ReAn | i think it was from the branches |
| 22:06.48 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: such a client doesn't even exist |
| 22:06.50 | KriLL3 | I doubt the ingame font got russian characters |
| 22:07.00 | Pneumatus | lol european english |
| 22:07.08 | Pneumatus | they wish! |
| 22:07.21 | Matrix110 | KriLL3 mine does atleast |
| 22:07.23 | KriLL3 | what ever it's called, you know what I mean |
| 22:07.26 | Matrix110 | I see all the russian gibberish |
| 22:07.32 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: you can a) change the font *really* easily and b) who said that it COULD? it will display boxes or nothing or blah. you'll have unlabeled buttons, unreadable chat etc. but why would it FAIL? |
| 22:07.48 | Pneumatus | all the fonts ive used in-game display whatever characterset russians use |
| 22:07.52 | Gnarfoz | it would work, there'd just be no readable text for you to read. computer programs don't need to read. |
| 22:08.05 | Polarina | Gnarfoz: It doesn't fail, the server forbids the client to even make an attempt. |
| 22:08.31 | Pneumatus | one of the Cyrillic sets anyway |
| 22:08.35 | ReAn | Gnarfoz: Where can i get the branches/Ace3-WotLK version? I was browsing through svn, i can't find it |
| 22:08.37 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: nah, Fritz Quadrata TT doesn't have cyrillic, I take it, at least I've time and again seen people add fonts for ruRU to some addons. but I think that was for raid warnings which doesn't use Fritz |
| 22:09.01 | Pneumatus | thats quite possible, as its been a fair while since i used fritz |
| 22:09.08 | Gnarfoz | ReAn: 1st step: get yourself a svn client; 2nd step: check out http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/ag_UnitFrames/Ace3-WotLK/ |
| 22:09.19 | Matrix110 | Calibri has it! |
| 22:09.32 | Pneumatus | vera has it! |
| 22:09.34 | Gnarfoz | Polarina: and you're talking about something else than KriLL3. too bad people don't fucking read anymore. :P |
| 22:09.41 | Gnarfoz | REAL FONTS HAVE IT YEAH |
| 22:09.42 | Pneumatus | along with pretty much every character set known to man |
| 22:09.43 | Gnarfoz | :X |
| 22:09.49 | Pneumatus | as well as some that man doesnt even know about! |
| 22:09.49 | Gnarfoz | Arial has it, too. |
| 22:10.19 | Pneumatus | but yeh, any self-respecting font has cyrillic tables |
| 22:10.38 | ReAn | Gnarfoz: that's why i couldn't find it, lowercase a was at the bottom of the list |
| 22:10.39 | Gnarfoz | I doubt Fritz Quadrata TT has the luxury of self-anything |
| 22:10.40 | ReAn | thx |
| 22:10.46 | Gnarfoz | it's being used like a slave by Blizzard :> |
| 22:10.57 | Gnarfoz | ReAn: ^_^ |
| 22:11.41 | Drundia | russian wow has a cyrillic version of fritz quadrata |
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| 22:11.50 | Pneumatus | Fritz doesnt have much more than [a-zA-Z0-0] |
| 22:12.11 | Adirelle | the new hunter survival talents are promising, though they are still half-implemented (and reset at each login) |
| 22:12.30 | KriLL3 | Adirelle: sounds like fun |
| 22:12.37 | Pneumatus | it has the odd accented letter to cope with french, and probably the couple of german letters |
| 22:12.58 | Gnarfoz | normal FQTT already has umlauts, so hm. |
| 22:13.12 | Gnarfoz | still wonder why they're so cheap with the font. |
| 22:13.17 | Polarina | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7577014.stm - "Chine blocks iTunes music store" |
| 22:13.44 | Gnarfoz | FQTT is not much more than a copy of Frutiger, of which, I'd assume, there'd be a version with a huge unicode table :X |
| 22:13.45 | KriLL3 | aren't most of the fonts clearfont2 adds proprietary? |
| 22:13.52 | Gnarfoz | most of them, yes. |
| 22:13.56 | Pneumatus | i think the only complete codepage that fritz has is the western one |
| 22:14.03 | KriLL3 | isn't that errm, illegal? |
| 22:14.03 | Pneumatus | which includes the common accented chars |
| 22:14.05 | Gnarfoz | but CF2 is like, totally useless and taints your UI? :D |
| 22:14.20 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: what other addon can you change font with? |
| 22:14.31 | Gnarfoz | you don't need an addon, that being my point |
| 22:14.36 | KriLL3 | ?... |
| 22:14.37 | Pneumatus | i use MiniType |
| 22:14.40 | Gnarfoz | put your fonts in \Fonts\? |
| 22:14.42 | Gnarfoz | done! |
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| 22:14.50 | KriLL3 | how do you change em ingame? |
| 22:14.56 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 22:15.01 | Gnarfoz | you don't. |
| 22:15.03 | Pneumatus | lets be honest, how often do you change your fonts |
| 22:15.04 | Pneumatus | once. |
| 22:15.06 | KriLL3 | I haven't seen a menu option for it |
| 22:15.07 | Adirelle | doh... |
| 22:15.08 | Gnarfoz | they replace the fonts. |
| 22:15.15 | Ellipsis | KriLL3: you don't need a menu option |
| 22:15.30 | KriLL3 | huh? |
| 22:15.32 | Ellipsis | take the font file you want, give it the same name as the blizz one, and put it where blizz looks for its file |
| 22:15.34 | Gnarfoz | stuff that's present in the file system gets overlaid on top of the stuf in the MPQs |
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| 22:15.40 | Ellipsis | tada, the game uses your file instead of its own |
| 22:15.47 | Gnarfoz | what she said. |
| 22:15.49 | Pneumatus | MiniType at least isnt taint-tastic, and grabs its fonts from sharedmedia |
| 22:15.53 | Gnarfoz | (is what I said, just different words) |
| 22:16.11 | Gnarfoz | ag`: me love you long time |
| 22:16.19 | KriLL3 | where is the fonts folder? |
| 22:16.25 | Gnarfoz | WoW\Fonts\ |
| 22:16.29 | Ellipsis | you create it. |
| 22:17.16 | KriLL3 | what if you want more than one font? I don't want the same in the chat and in announcements/SCT etc |
| 22:17.24 | Adirelle | if one sets the alpha of a children frame, will it override the parent alpha ? |
| 22:17.35 | Ellipsis | then you use an addon which lets you select specific fonts for each element |
| 22:17.45 | KriLL3 | Ellipsis: like? |
| 22:18.02 | Ellipsis | all SCT addons that I know of let you choose fonts for their display... |
| 22:18.21 | Pneumatus | all chat addons that i know of let you chose fonts also |
| 22:18.26 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: CF2 doesn't handle fonts "in different places", does it now |
| 22:18.50 | Pneumatus | but yeh, CF2 is just a blanket replace, same as MiniType |
| 22:18.55 | KriLL3 | no it sets the base font |
| 22:19.01 | Ellipsis | which is what the file replacement does |
| 22:19.05 | Gnarfoz | and taints your UI while at it! :D |
| 22:19.14 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: what does that even mean? |
| 22:19.15 | Gnarfoz | you could just get SharedMediaFonts (or what it's called) if you really need the fonts ;) |
| 22:19.57 | Pneumatus | Gnarfoz: you still need an addon to apply those fonts, unless you pick the one you want and copypasta it into the fonts dir, etc |
| 22:20.05 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: you don't know what that means and you're talking smack about raiding, shit about balancing etc. and you don't know? :X |
| 22:20.18 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: the addons do that, themselves, like YOU said yourself right there. |
| 22:20.22 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: I'm not an addon dev, I have no idea what UI tainting is |
| 22:20.23 | Ellipsis | Pneumatus: you didn't read what we said, did you |
| 22:20.50 | Ellipsis | KriLL3: think of it as "potential bugs" |
| 22:21.00 | Ellipsis | it may or may not actually cause problems, but avoiding it would be preferable |
| 22:21.02 | Gnarfoz | blanket replace via \Fonts\ dir, choose fonts for special cases in the addons themselves, add fonts you don't have through SharedMedia(Fonts) |
| 22:21.06 | KriLL3 | you mean it interferes with the default UI? |
| 22:21.12 | Ellipsis | it can, yes |
| 22:21.16 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 22:21.26 | Pneumatus | fwiw, i've never seen CF2 cause taint, but i just prefer MiniType |
| 22:21.46 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: it means: addons doing stuff that'll possibly break your UI in ways you wouldn't think. mostly the "why doesn't my XYZ work anymore?" kind of errors |
| 22:22.00 | KriLL3 | somewhat like the addon I got that adds a game menu to fubar throws an error if I try to shift click a spell in the spellbook when making a macro? |
| 22:22.13 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: it changes fontstrings used in secure frames... taint. |
| 22:22.21 | Ellipsis | I've seen CF2 cause taint, but it only caused one actual issue that I know of (setting MT/MA through raid UI) |
| 22:22.39 | Gnarfoz | or being unable to move people between groups, same frame :X |
| 22:22.53 | Xinhuan | and tainting the raid UI is very very very VERY bad because the raid UI is the ONLY way you can change ppl's group while in combat |
| 22:23.09 | KriLL3 | doesn't really matter for pvp:ers |
| 22:23.09 | Xinhuan | as the functions are protected |
| 22:23.21 | Xinhuan | oh we're back to the pvp vs pver now aren't we? |
| 22:23.22 | Pneumatus | well, you could just set the groups up right before you engage ;) |
| 22:23.25 | Xinhuan | go away KriLL3 |
| 22:23.38 | Pneumatus | but fair enough, never seen CF2 taint like that personally |
| 22:23.49 | Xinhuan | u usually want to swap groups in combat to accomodate heroism rotations and healers running oom vs spriest |
| 22:23.56 | Ellipsis | the idea is, why use an addon that taints and has a history of actually BREAKING functionality....when you can accomplish the exact same thing without an addon and have 0 risk of problems |
| 22:23.56 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: uhm being able to change in combat is neccessary ;) |
| 22:24.20 | Pneumatus | being able to change in combat just messes healers up because their tanks start appearing in different places on Grid/we :P |
| 22:24.32 | KriLL3 | Ellipsis: I used CF2 since I thought that the only way to change the font, other than similar addons |
| 22:24.39 | Xinhuan | u don't move tanks in raids usually |
| 22:24.45 | Ellipsis | and now you know how to do it without CF2 :) |
| 22:24.47 | Xinhuan | u only move shamans and healers |
| 22:24.48 | Xinhuan | usually |
| 22:24.54 | Pneumatus | no, but shuffling people in/out of tank groups causes their frames to move |
| 22:24.57 | Ellipsis | (though the CF2 website itself lists that method, aka "step 2" |
| 22:24.59 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: aren't the tanks in their own section anyway? |
| 22:25.00 | Ellipsis | ) |
| 22:25.03 | Xinhuan | well true |
| 22:25.14 | Xinhuan | but still color coded grid and stuff |
| 22:25.15 | Pneumatus | KriLL3: not on my Grid setup |
| 22:25.16 | Xinhuan | not much of an issue |
| 22:25.34 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: that's a Grid addon |
| 22:25.41 | Pneumatus | holy moly |
| 22:25.44 | KriLL3 | ?... |
| 22:25.45 | Xinhuan | Gnarfoz, he doesn't raid remember? |
| 22:25.49 | Pneumatus | they have finally implemented a focus unit frame |
| 22:25.51 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: yeah. |
| 22:25.59 | Gnarfoz | :X |
| 22:26.00 | Xinhuan | all he cares is about himself and his pvp |
| 22:26.06 | Ellipsis | licks Xinhuan |
| 22:26.12 | Gnarfoz | and speculations about the future. :> |
| 22:26.18 | Pneumatus | i thought pvp was dead |
| 22:26.20 | Gnarfoz | i.e. crystal ball! |
| 22:26.21 | KriLL3 | I raided in BWL and back then addons had tanks in a separate section, blizz didn't have their own raidframes |
| 22:26.33 | Xinhuan | except that BWL addons are a far cry from now |
| 22:26.37 | Ellipsis | um, yeah, you know how 2.0 broke a ton of stuff? |
| 22:26.39 | Xinhuan | and have a different rule set |
| 22:26.42 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: he doesn't. |
| 22:26.47 | Ellipsis | back then taint didn't even exist... |
| 22:26.49 | Xinhuan | no addon in the BWL era will work now |
| 22:26.51 | KriLL3 | don't you still assign MT etc? |
| 22:27.00 | Ellipsis | yes, but you display them using secure headers now |
| 22:27.11 | Ellipsis | you can't just create arbitrary frames to do arbitrary things |
| 22:27.12 | Xinhuan | you assign them in a completely different manner now |
| 22:27.20 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: there's for one, blizz's own MT/MA now. you don't even need an addon for that |
| 22:27.21 | Xinhuan | with limitations set out by blizz |
| 22:28.16 | Obelixprime | yaya world server down |
| 22:29.53 | Xinhuan | i want to impress that BWL and now is 3 years apart and is a totally different game |
| 22:30.02 | Obelixprime | NEVER |
| 22:30.17 | Pneumatus | we 15-manned MC last night for the lolz |
| 22:30.44 | Xinhuan | BWL was the era of spamming 1 button to win |
| 22:30.48 | Xinhuan | ala decursive |
| 22:30.57 | Pneumatus | now that's the dps job! |
| 22:31.04 | Ellipsis | facepalms |
| 22:31.04 | Polarina | yells: "SHADOWBOLT!" |
| 22:31.05 | KriLL3 | decursive was kinda needed with 40 guys |
| 22:31.15 | Pneumatus | not in the slightest |
| 22:31.31 | Xinhuan | that just shows your ignorance KriLL3 |
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| 22:31.54 | KriLL3 | no its shows I got experience from raiding back then |
| 22:31.58 | Xinhuan | decursive merely automated things |
| 22:32.01 | Xinhuan | that can be done manually |
| 22:32.13 | Shefki | Surely in PVE you could predict who the boss will debuff and just be ready to remove it /sarcasm. |
| 22:32.16 | Xinhuan | yes but raiding experience from 3 years ago has no relevance to raiding now |
| 22:32.18 | Pneumatus | decursive took the brains out of it, it could still be done manually, and just as efficiently |
| 22:32.44 | KriLL3 | if you have a dedicated target to heal and you're expected to hunt and peck decurse/abolish poison among 8 parties you'd prefer automation also |
| 22:33.05 | Xinhuan | boss fights in tbc are about raid coordination, not about brute forcing |
| 22:33.06 | KriLL3 | it's very different with 5 parties |
| 22:33.26 | Xinhuan | you are used to te old style of raids where you make 8 groups of 5, and each group is self-sufficient |
| 22:33.29 | Xinhuan | in healing and decursing |
| 22:33.31 | Pneumatus | i find it very very hard to believe you had any raid experience pre-bc |
| 22:33.31 | Shefki | Except now we get debuffs that you don't want to remove immediately. |
| 22:33.41 | Xinhuan | and your first 4 groups are "tank groups" |
| 22:33.44 | Xinhuan | raiding has changed |
| 22:33.45 | Shefki | E.G. Curse of Boundless Agony |
| 22:33.54 | Xinhuan | now raiding group setups is about group synergy |
| 22:33.58 | Pneumatus | or Unstable Affliction :) |
| 22:34.03 | Xinhuan | and every healer has to cross heal every other group |
| 22:34.04 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: I took part in the first nefarian kill on the server and almost all the wipefests prior, I got the SS to prove it |
| 22:34.14 | Xinhuan | you're missing the point |
| 22:34.28 | Xinhuan | the pointis raiding 3 years ago is a completely different experience from raiding now |
| 22:34.45 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: stop now before you go insane |
| 22:34.45 | Xinhuan | if you haven't tried it, dont' assume its the same |
| 22:34.57 | Pneumatus | raiding 3 years ago you also had the luxury of 25% of the raid being afk and still winning |
| 22:35.00 | Xinhuan | nah i am just "defending" this graveyard in AV |
| 22:35.08 | KriLL3 | yes and I'm saying part of the difference makes decursive a lot less important |
| 22:35.18 | Gnarfoz | decursive wasn't important to begin with. |
| 22:35.33 | Shefki | Now if you lose a single person most of the stuff in Sunwell is hard to kill. |
| 22:35.44 | Shefki | Though with gear you get a little bit more flexibility. |
| 22:35.45 | KriLL3 | if you were the only one able to remove poisons with a boss that really likes to apply poisons and expected to heal at the same time, yes it was |
| 22:35.46 | Gnarfoz | and BWL isn't Sunwell, either |
| 22:35.47 | Xinhuan | i haven't heard of any guild that wiped on bosses because of the decursive change |
| 22:35.54 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: you weren't though |
| 22:35.58 | KriLL3 | I was |
| 22:36.11 | Xinhuan | then that's a raid composition issue |
| 22:36.12 | Gnarfoz | you were the only paladin or shaman in your raid? |
| 22:36.17 | Pneumatus | or druid |
| 22:36.18 | KriLL3 | druid, stupid |
| 22:36.19 | Gnarfoz | or dr00d |
| 22:36.27 | Pneumatus | so you took no paladins/shamans with you? |
| 22:36.29 | KriLL3 | shamans wasn't in alliance raids, paladins were too busy healing |
| 22:36.30 | Pneumatus | and 1 druid? |
| 22:36.36 | Xinhuan | then that's a raid composition issue |
| 22:36.47 | Shefki | I'm typically the only druid in our raids. |
| 22:36.50 | KriLL3 | that's how raid compositions were back then |
| 22:36.54 | Shefki | Ocassionally we'll have a feral. |
| 22:37.00 | Pneumatus | not even close, KriLL3 |
| 22:37.01 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: guess why I answered with both choices? because I don't fucking know which faction you play? |
| 22:37.18 | Pneumatus | we used to raid with 3/4 priests, 3/4 druids, 3/4 paladins |
| 22:37.19 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: I was there, don't claim you know better than me |
| 22:37.39 | Pneumatus | ( KriLL3 ) that's how raid compositions were back then |
| 22:37.44 | Xinhuan | but we do, we raided both bwl and tbc! you didn't |
| 22:37.44 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: also, you're makit it more and more obvious you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about, be it pre-BC raiding or pve, or whatever. luckily, no one is going to ask for some pvp advice |
| 22:37.48 | Pneumatus | you're refering to generic raid compositions there |
| 22:37.48 | Gnarfoz | :X |
| 22:37.51 | Gnarfoz | *making |
| 22:38.32 | KriLL3 | I was in several raiding guilds back then and saw tons of SS:s of raids, 1-2 druids were the norm |
| 22:38.32 | Pneumatus | the fact that your imaginary guild only took one druid, and your paladins were too busy healing to cleanse doesnt make that the defacto standard |
| 22:39.05 | Shefki | Seriously pre Wrath nobody took no Paladins becuase of the value of the buffs. |
| 22:39.10 | Gnarfoz | he claims that he himself was too busy healing |
| 22:39.22 | Gnarfoz | to be dispelling with brain-1.0 rather than decursive |
| 22:39.32 | Gnarfoz | but at the same time, paladins were too busy healing, too |
| 22:39.39 | Gnarfoz | wonder what the priests were doing |
| 22:39.45 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: paladins assumed the druid would take care of it |
| 22:39.47 | Pneumatus | probably didnt take priests either |
| 22:39.53 | Gnarfoz | you don't ASSUME anything |
| 22:39.58 | Pneumatus | their healing team was obviously 1 druid and 9 paladins |
| 22:40.03 | Gnarfoz | because you've been asigned your task, like you also said earlier. |
| 22:40.08 | nevcairiel | apparently your raid sucked if you assume stuff like that =P |
| 22:40.31 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: I never said they didn't |
| 22:40.31 | Gnarfoz | nah, it just turns out that stuff is both this way and that way at the same time |
| 22:40.38 | Ellipsis | [3:35:06 pm] <KriLL3> if you were the only one able to remove poisons with a boss that really likes to apply poisons and expected to heal at the same time, yes it was |
| 22:40.40 | Xinhuan | /bg to belinda quick |
| 22:40.42 | Xinhuan | err mt |
| 22:40.50 | Ellipsis | KriLL3: apparently you weren't the only one ABLE to remove them |
| 22:40.51 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: <3 |
| 22:41.15 | KriLL3 | can palas and priests also remove poisons? |
| 22:41.20 | KriLL3 | I'm not sure |
| 22:41.25 | Ellipsis | facepalms |
| 22:41.30 | Ellipsis | priests can't, pallies can |
| 22:41.41 | Gnarfoz | dude |
| 22:41.44 | winkiller | in your face! |
| 22:41.47 | Ellipsis | there are always at least 2 classes capable of removing any given debuff type |
| 22:41.50 | Shefki | Seriousy how can you not know who can remove poisons... |
| 22:41.55 | Gnarfoz | why did I say something about shamans/paladins earlier? |
| 22:42.03 | Ellipsis | if you're a healer/decurser you should know this stuff |
| 22:42.05 | KriLL3 | my raidframe was full of green until I did something about it, almost no-one was de-poisoned unless I did it, I know that much |
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| 22:42.14 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: because he's making it up as he goes along? just an idea :D |
| 22:42.17 | KriLL3 | Shefki: was a long time since I raided |
| 22:42.19 | Ellipsis | KriLL3: then your pallies were lazy and your raid leader sucked |
| 22:42.29 | winkiller | long time ago = no pallies ;) |
| 22:42.31 | Shefki | Ohh so they removed all the poisons from PVP? |
| 22:42.33 | Xinhuan | [8/23 06:42:17] <KriLL3> my raidframe was full of green until I did something about it, almost no-one was de-poisoned unless I did it, I know that much <-- then your raid fucking sucks |
| 22:42.36 | Ellipsis | that doesn't mean decursive was required for everyone |
| 22:42.38 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: he's alliance, lots of pallies to go around. |
| 22:42.42 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: also: shamans. |
| 22:42.43 | KriLL3 | Ellipsis: our RL was a 16 year old boy that couldn't formulate a single sentence of readable English |
| 22:42.47 | winkiller | Gnarfoz: pssst! |
| 22:42.57 | Ellipsis | then I have two questions for you, KriLL3 |
| 22:43.01 | Ellipsis | a) why were you raiding with them? |
| 22:43.14 | Ellipsis | b) more to the point, what makes you think that you can generalize your experience to all pre-TBC raiders'? |
| 22:43.23 | KriLL3 | and one of our palas had TF and was busy over-aggroing breath dragons :) |
| 22:43.24 | Xinhuan | his server must suck too, because his guild apparently has server 1st nef |
| 22:43.30 | Shefki | Answer to a is obvious. He thinks raiding is so easy a 16 yo boy who can't talk can lead it. |
| 22:43.30 | Ellipsis | just because you needed decursive to make up for poor raid organization doesn't mean EVERYONE was in that situation and needed that addon. |
| 22:43.46 | KriLL3 | Ellipsis: we were first to kill neffy on a large server... |
| 22:43.59 | Ellipsis | something doesn't add up here. |
| 22:44.10 | Ellipsis | large server and the first nef kill goes to a shitty raid like that? |
| 22:44.11 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: want some of Xuerian's popcorn? |
| 22:44.16 | Xinhuan | wait, a 16 year old that can't formulate sentences leads a raid and gets server first? |
| 22:44.22 | Ellipsis | mmm please Gnarfoz, I hope there's extra butter |
| 22:44.27 | Xinhuan | with a raid that only brings one druid to dispel? |
| 22:44.32 | dieck | heh. first kills. I think we did the LAST kill of Nef. pre-TBC :) |
| 22:44.36 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: actually, some mexican stuff! I suppose it's hot or something :D |
| 22:44.37 | Shefki | Can I have some too? |
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| 22:45.00 | KriLL3 | Xinhuan: each class had a sub leader of sorts |
| 22:45.03 | Gnarfoz | (what has popcorn got to do with butter, btw o_O) |
| 22:45.13 | KriLL3 | most of the RL's retardedness was bypassed |
| 22:45.20 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: a match made in heaven? |
| 22:45.21 | Xinhuan | then he isn't the RL anymore is he |
| 22:45.39 | KriLL3 | Xinhuan: a figurehead that gives all loot to his friends more like |
| 22:45.46 | Pneumatus | butter on popcorn is an american thing, i think |
| 22:45.49 | Gnarfoz | awesome raid is awesome |
| 22:46.02 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: I thought it universal and I'm european |
| 22:46.09 | Shefki | So you're telling us that the raid leader sucked but delegated to capable people. |
| 22:46.19 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: must be, I only know popcorn... sweetened or salted. not ... buttered |
| 22:46.20 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: he brought along a shadow priest buddy in blue pvp rep gear :) |
| 22:46.26 | Shefki | But we're supposed to believe that removing poisons didn't get assigned or done well because the raid leader sucked? |
| 22:46.28 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: butter & salt |
| 22:46.34 | Pneumatus | or tofee coated, Gnarfoz |
| 22:46.37 | Gnarfoz | there's no pvp rep gear pre-bc? o_O |
| 22:46.38 | KriLL3 | sweetened is a UK only thing I think |
| 22:46.42 | Ellipsis | KriLL3: then your pally leader sucked too |
| 22:46.44 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: wsg rep |
| 22:46.50 | Gnarfoz | urgh |
| 22:46.52 | KriLL3 | Ellipsis: he was the one holding TF |
| 22:46.55 | Gnarfoz | how do you even combine butter and popcorn oO |
| 22:47.00 | Gnarfoz | it's not "messy" that way |
| 22:47.01 | Ellipsis | s/sucked/REALLY sucked |
| 22:47.05 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: errm, it's standard... |
| 22:47.06 | Gnarfoz | or rather, it would be messy that way |
| 22:47.16 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: yeah, it's not, because I say so. |
| 22:47.29 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz: butter and salt are rather standard popcorn toppings here :P |
| 22:47.39 | KriLL3 | every single cinema I've been in adds liquid butter and salt to popcorn |
| 22:47.41 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: I'm going with what Pneumatus said =) |
| 22:47.51 | Ellipsis | caramel corn is nom nom though |
| 22:47.55 | Ellipsis | kettle corn even better |
| 22:48.04 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: well, good for you. generalizing is better left to people who do it sparingly |
| 22:48.06 | KriLL3 | and I've seen the same all over Europe, heard the UK does really funky stuff like sugar |
| 22:48.11 | Gnarfoz | why would I even *ask* if it wasn't "standard" here. |
| 22:48.22 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: I have no idea where you are |
| 22:48.24 | nocts | Damnit ManGos. Hurry up and compile for 8820 |
| 22:48.27 | lagger | whatd they change to auras |
| 22:48.30 | lagger | all my buffs show up at 8h |
| 22:48.33 | winkiller | our popcorn has salt or sugar |
| 22:48.34 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: an even better reason to not generalize. |
| 22:48.44 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: exactly! (yeah I know where you're from ;P) |
| 22:48.46 | lagger | it worked like 2 patches ago |
| 22:48.47 | Ellipsis | KriLL3, you should probably quit while you're behind today :P |
| 22:48.49 | KriLL3 | winkiller: how does it taste with sugar? seems an horribly odd combination |
| 22:48.51 | winkiller | Gnarfoz: and? |
| 22:48.59 | winkiller | KriLL3: good |
| 22:49.06 | KriLL3 | like putting garlic on a lolipop... |
| 22:49.07 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: nothing. I'm just saying - I'm from the same place =) |
| 22:49.11 | Pneumatus | the sugar is added when the popcorn is hot, so it melts over it and coats it |
| 22:49.17 | Pneumatus | and its awesome. |
| 22:49.22 | KriLL3 | popcorn is salty and savory, can't imagine it sweet |
| 22:49.28 | winkiller | Gnarfoz: but i know more countries where it's like that ;) |
| 22:49.31 | Gnarfoz | yup. correct term would probably be caramelized =) |
| 22:49.33 | Ellipsis | Pneumatus: popcorn doesn't get hot enough to melt sugar :P |
| 22:49.40 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: list em! defeat the evil butter users! |
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| 22:49.58 | winkiller | well, I bought some buttered microwave popcorn in austria.. |
| 22:50.03 | Pneumatus | you fry kernels in oil, of course it gets hot :P |
| 22:50.07 | winkiller | but it's not cinema popcorn |
| 22:50.07 | Ellipsis | you're either referring to caramel corn where the sugar is cooked into caramel first and then poured over the popcorn, or kettle corn where sugar and a little bit of salt are sprinkled over it :P |
| 22:50.17 | KriLL3 | winkiller: all microwave popcorn is pre-buttered and salted here, since that's what you put ontop of it |
| 22:50.17 | winkiller | I also bought toffee popcorn in a supermarket here |
| 22:50.20 | Ellipsis | Pneumatus: umm...you do? |
| 22:50.26 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: yes, you do. |
| 22:50.32 | Ellipsis | not here |
| 22:50.33 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: you only know microwave popcorn, right? :p |
| 22:50.34 | winkiller | KriLL3: we don't *have* decent microwave popcorn here |
| 22:50.35 | Ellipsis | no |
| 22:50.36 | Gnarfoz | *jab* |
| 22:50.38 | KriLL3 | Isn't it the UK that add sugar to popcorn? |
| 22:50.38 | winkiller | thus I had to import it |
| 22:50.51 | KriLL3 | I've heard it's done there |
| 22:50.55 | Ellipsis | KriLL3: sugar is used in the US as well, if a bit less frequently |
| 22:51.00 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 22:51.05 | winkiller | I didn't eat popcorn in the UK |
| 22:51.10 | winkiller | my life is wasted |
| 22:51.15 | winkiller | :( |
| 22:51.19 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz: most popcorn here is buttered, and in that case it's popped in a butter-flavored oil, yes |
| 22:51.22 | KriLL3 | from what I've heard the norm is salt+butter in the rest of Europe, I might be mistaken |
| 22:51.22 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: well, how is popcorn made in the US then? |
| 22:51.23 | Pneumatus | im guessing our popcorn in the UK is what americans refer to as kettle corn |
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| 22:51.28 | fewyn | ~lart Vulcanus |
| 22:51.28 | purl | takes a big bite out of Vulcanus's jugular vein |
| 22:51.29 | Gnarfoz | eh, lag. :) |
| 22:51.31 | Ellipsis | but for sweet popcorn like kettle corn, they usually air-pop it |
| 22:51.41 | Gnarfoz | air-pop oO |
| 22:51.42 | KriLL3 | the Nordic area is butter + salt though, I can vouch for that |
| 22:51.49 | Ellipsis | yes...heat the popcorn dry |
| 22:51.56 | Gnarfoz | uhm that works? |
| 22:51.59 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 22:52.01 | winkiller | we didn't discuss the different types of corn used yet |
| 22:52.03 | Gnarfoz | I guess what Pneumatus said applies |
| 22:52.06 | Pneumatus | kettle corn by very definition isnt air-popped |
| 22:52.08 | Ellipsis | popcorn pops because of the water *inside* it :P |
| 22:52.12 | KriLL3 | most popcorn machines work a bit like a hairdryer |
| 22:52.12 | Pneumatus | its cooked ina bloody kettle :P |
| 22:52.13 | Gnarfoz | I've never even heard of different corns being used |
| 22:52.32 | KriLL3 | a hopper of corn with a stream of hot air blown through |
| 22:52.34 | JensRex | eots makes me want to hang myself. |
| 22:52.34 | winkiller | US has some stuff that's not allowed in the EU |
| 22:52.45 | KriLL3 | winkiller: most of it cause cancer |
| 22:52.46 | KriLL3 | :) |
| 22:52.59 | Ellipsis | Pneumatus: traditionally yes...hence the name |
| 22:53.02 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: that, and they have vastly more space to grow god-knows how many sorts of corn! :D |
| 22:53.07 | Pneumatus | http://www.viewpoints.com/images/review/2007/137/9/1179410585-77661_full.jpg |
| 22:53.11 | winkiller | hehe |
| 22:53.12 | Ellipsis | but the kettle does not have oil or water in it :P |
| 22:53.21 | Ellipsis | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettle_corn |
| 22:53.29 | winkiller | Kettle porn? |
| 22:53.33 | Gnarfoz | pr0n. |
| 22:53.33 | winkiller | that sounds hawt |
| 22:53.36 | KriLL3 | all popcorn machines I've ever seen had a hopper that had hot air blown through holes |
| 22:53.52 | KriLL3 | and if you do it DIY in a kettle you added butter and salt |
| 22:54.13 | winkiller | there was this popcorn machine in our local hockey stadium that played a happy tune with a voice singing when making popcorn |
| 22:54.18 | winkiller | that was creepy, I tell you |
| 22:54.22 | JCinDE | Anyone know how to get Cartographer_ExtractGas minimap icons to disappear when you get in range the way Cartographer_Herbalism icons do? |
| 22:54.23 | KriLL3 | the butter to make it not stick and for flavor, salt for flavor, you usually added the salt once it was done |
| 22:54.29 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 22:54.32 | Ellipsis | popcorn does not stick |
| 22:54.36 | Ellipsis | even if you pop it dry |
| 22:54.44 | winkiller | toffee popcorn sticks like mad |
| 22:54.50 | Pneumatus | JCinDE: probably by ditching it and installing GatherMate, as its no longer supported |
| 22:54.57 | KriLL3 | I've seen it happen, was prior to Teflon though |
| 22:54.59 | Ellipsis | yes but plain popcorn kernels that have been air-popped do not stick |
| 22:55.13 | Ellipsis | have you people never had truly plain popcorn? |
| 22:55.18 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: the german Popcorn entry at wikipedia should probably point to kettle corn for the english version :X |
| 22:55.25 | KriLL3 | Ellipsis: that's my point, if you do it in a kettle the surface heats it, not air |
| 22:55.35 | JCinDE | GatherMate replaces just the profession tracking portion or all of Cartographer? |
| 22:55.38 | Ellipsis | KriLL3: popcorn turns -inside out- when it pops.... |
| 22:55.46 | dodga | gross. |
| 22:55.49 | dodga | but tasty. |
| 22:55.56 | Gnarfoz | ellipsis will turn you inside out. |
| 22:55.57 | Pneumatus | JCinDE: it replaces Cartographer_Herbalism/Mining/Etc |
| 22:55.58 | Ellipsis | the outer surface is then NOT STICKY AT ALL, it's more like dry styrofoam |
| 22:55.59 | JCinDE | tyvm |
| 22:56.14 | Gnarfoz | "Das in Deutschland übliche gezuckerte Popcorn dagegen ist in den USA nahezu unbekannt, jedoch ist eine süÃ-salzige Variante, âKettle cornâ, seit einigen Jahren weit verbreitet." |
| 22:56.26 | Gnarfoz | hm, kettle corn is salted *and* sweetened? |
| 22:56.26 | winkiller | there was this song, "you turn me inside out" |
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| 22:56.39 | winkiller | we may only assume that it was about popcorn actually |
| 22:56.47 | KriLL3 | Ellipsis: yeah but if the kettle is dry you risk burning the part of the popped corn that faces down |
| 22:56.50 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz: yes, but only a very small amount of salt |
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| 22:57.28 | Ellipsis | KriLL3: which is why most people "air pop" instead which means to use hot air to heat the popcorn, additionally the popper is usually designed so that the hot air blows the popped kernels out of the popper and into a container to cool |
| 22:57.29 | winkiller | yeah, our salted popcorn is also only slightly salted |
| 22:57.33 | Pneumatus | to make sweetened popcorn, having a little oil in the kettle helps the sugar stick |
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| 22:57.47 | KriLL3 | Ellipsis: yeah |
| 22:57.48 | Gnarfoz | while I enjoy "contaminating" my friends's popcorn bags with my salted popcorn (sweetened popcorn has like, what, 90% "market share" here), the combination tastes funny :D |
| 22:57.53 | winkiller | Last I airpopped popcorn is 10 years ago |
| 22:58.06 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: UK correct? |
| 22:58.10 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: incorrect |
| 22:58.14 | KriLL3 | US? |
| 22:58.34 | Gnarfoz | I'll leave it to your observation powers to find out (hint /whois winkiller) |
| 22:58.40 | winkiller | Popcorn was first discovered by the native Americans, who believed that the popping noise was that of an angry god who escaped the kernel. |
| 22:58.42 | smoke_ | is there a syncing stun/cc timer? i know chronometer/classtimers has that, but does it sync w/ your party/raid? |
| 22:58.45 | winkiller | THAT'S awesome news |
| 22:58.49 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: FOOD OF THE GODS. |
| 22:58.52 | KriLL3 | winkiller <n=winkille@monohedron.de> âLive fast. Die young. Respawn. Take revenge.â |
| 22:58.54 | Gnarfoz | literally. :D |
| 22:59.07 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: I already did yours, didn't give me anything useful and I asked you... |
| 22:59.08 | Pneumatus | smoke_: unless someone has writteon one in the last 12 hours, the answer remains the same |
| 22:59.24 | smoke_ | damn!!!! |
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| 22:59.37 | winkiller | smoke_: what you really want, is synchronized popcorn machines |
| 22:59.42 | Gnarfoz | with music. |
| 22:59.47 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: .de = germany |
| 22:59.47 | smoke_ | i wanted to see if anyone knew of anything, but i guess ur right :/ |
| 22:59.48 | fewyn | lol |
| 22:59.52 | fewyn | they closed storm peaks? |
| 22:59.54 | Pneumatus | that both kettle cook, and air-blow the kernels |
| 22:59.59 | winkiller | we DO know about popcorn it seems |
| 23:00.01 | fewyn | LOL |
| 23:00.01 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: I know, yours doesn't have .de |
| 23:00.03 | Pneumatus | at the same time! |
| 23:00.30 | winkiller | mine normally also doesn't have a real host :P |
| 23:00.32 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: that's why I said earlier I'm from the same place as he is. (I did direct it at him, but well, I don't only read lines directed at me, do I :D) |
| 23:00.38 | smoke_ | the cast bars bellow the name plates are bugged atm even w/ default blizz name plates? |
| 23:00.41 | Gnarfoz | fewyn: so they did, does anyone know why? |
| 23:00.50 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz: of course not, you like to jump in on everyone's conversations ;P |
| 23:00.56 | winkiller | haha |
| 23:00.56 | Pneumatus | on beta, smoke_? |
| 23:01.00 | winkiller | no, on popcorn |
| 23:01.01 | smoke_ | na, on live |
| 23:01.07 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: and for that, I have to be prepared! :D |
| 23:01.09 | smoke_ | im using pTags the nameplate p3lim made |
| 23:01.12 | Ellipsis | YOU ARE NOT PREPARED |
| 23:01.13 | smoke_ | and my cast bars are bugged |
| 23:01.26 | Ellipsis | sorry, had to get that one in one last time before it becomes obsolete |
| 23:01.28 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: thanks for taking that bait. phew. |
| 23:01.35 | Gnarfoz | I was counting on it |
| 23:01.35 | fewyn | issues Gnarfoz no exact info |
| 23:01.38 | Ellipsis | licks Gnarfoz |
| 23:01.43 | Gnarfoz | is licked. |
| 23:01.44 | winkiller | I prefer 10 people yelling "YOU ARE NOT REPAIRED" on TS |
| 23:01.49 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 23:01.49 | winkiller | if someone forgot |
| 23:02.03 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: I didn't see anything about you being from the same place |
| 23:02.11 | winkiller | damn, now I want popcorn |
| 23:02.38 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: maybe Xuerian has some left, still |
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| 23:02.50 | Pneumatus | sweet? salted? caramel (optionally with pecans)? plain? |
| 23:02.53 | winkiller | I could fire up the microwave |
| 23:02.56 | winkiller | but it's a bit late |
| 23:03.00 | winkiller | maybe tomorrow |
| 23:03.05 | KriLL3 | germans spread chocolate on sandwiches, nothing they eat surprise me anymore, but sweet popcorn seems even less sane |
| 23:03.06 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: with some mexican stuff, I guess it's hot |
| 23:03.08 | Xuerian | pops some mooar. |
| 23:03.09 | winkiller | People |
| 23:03.09 | winkiller | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:03.23 | winkiller | KriLL3: we do? I only know that from the French |
| 23:03.29 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: Nutella? :X |
| 23:03.31 | winkiller | Baguette with Chocolate |
| 23:03.45 | Stanzilla | <3 Nutella |
| 23:03.47 | winkiller | Gnarfoz: that's nut-nougat, not chocolate |
| 23:03.48 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: or NuÃpli, if you're so inclined |
| 23:03.58 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: EÃzett Essschokolade! :D |
| 23:03.59 | KriLL3 | winkiller: what's the diff? |
| 23:04.01 | winkiller | rofl ok |
| 23:04.13 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: diff is: it's not chocolate, it's nougat. :D |
| 23:04.29 | Gnarfoz | but there actually is chocolate, too |
| 23:04.32 | winkiller | boy, it's sweet like chocolate |
| 23:04.32 | KriLL3 | they're both brown and taste about the same |
| 23:04.35 | Gnarfoz | (different product) |
| 23:04.38 | winkiller | (again a musical reference) |
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| 23:04.50 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: well, I know MORE stuff that's brown |
| 23:04.52 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 23:04.53 | dodga | Nutella \o/ |
| 23:04.57 | winkiller | lol |
| 23:05.01 | Pneumatus | nutella on popcorn? |
| 23:05.03 | Pneumatus | that sounds hideous |
| 23:05.04 | Gnarfoz | ugh |
| 23:05.05 | winkiller | got a highlight on that or what? |
| 23:05.11 | Gnarfoz | obviously, who doesn't. |
| 23:05.17 | winkiller | yuck |
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| 23:05.34 | winkiller | actually I do prefer chocolate on sandwiches |
| 23:05.43 | winkiller | but that's not a typical german thing |
| 23:05.49 | winkiller | it's bachelor's food |
| 23:05.58 | KriLL3 | I wouldn't raise an eyebrow if I saw a german eat salami dipped in toffee sauce |
| 23:06.02 | winkiller | because no ham and cheese in the fridge |
| 23:06.17 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: cheap, simple, and pure energy, right? :> |
| 23:06.20 | KriLL3 | I've eaten meals there at restaurants and hotels, the combination... |
| 23:06.26 | winkiller | KriLL3: we don't have toffee sauce :) |
| 23:06.29 | winkiller | Gnarfoz: yep |
| 23:06.42 | KriLL3 | winkiller: forgot the english word for it, the stuff you put on top of icecream |
| 23:06.44 | Gnarfoz | also, it's not like EÃzett Essschokolade is really mainstream :D |
| 23:06.45 | KriLL3 | tastes like toffee |
| 23:06.53 | winkiller | ah ok |
| 23:07.17 | winkiller | well, I already tried McDonald's fries dipped into vanilla icecream |
| 23:07.21 | winkiller | that's actually not too bad |
| 23:07.23 | KriLL3 | ... |
| 23:07.25 | Gnarfoz | toffee... topping, or something? I dunno. While you were just making an example, I don't think anyone would eat that |
| 23:07.32 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: germans would |
| 23:07.33 | Pneumatus | they are better in strawberry milkshake |
| 23:07.39 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: OMG |
| 23:07.40 | winkiller | oh cool |
| 23:07.42 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: so true! |
| 23:08.02 | Gnarfoz | although funnily enough, I made that discovery while in the UK. ;D |
| 23:08.06 | KriLL3 | mcd shake is mostly vegetable oil anyway... which is what the fries mostly consist of |
| 23:08.10 | Gnarfoz | ... where they had 0.8l milk shakes. |
| 23:08.19 | winkiller | GIEF |
| 23:08.25 | Gnarfoz | had. they're gone now. :( |
| 23:08.28 | KriLL3 | I have yet to see anything served at McD that didn't make me green |
| 23:08.39 | Gnarfoz | I have yet to see anything that makes me green |
| 23:08.45 | winkiller | I had chicken nuggets 3x this week |
| 23:08.48 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: well you're german |
| 23:08.55 | winkiller | never had so much McD food for years |
| 23:08.56 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: no, I just eat all kinds of shit :p |
| 23:09.07 | winkiller | when I was in the UK for a couple of weeks |
| 23:09.12 | winkiller | THAT was the worst food I ever got |
| 23:09.14 | KriLL3 | winkiller: laws here dictate you can't call it chicken nuggets since it doesn't contain enough chicken |
| 23:09.14 | Gnarfoz | Duke Nukem reference incoming in 5... 4... |
| 23:09.21 | winkiller | rofl |
| 23:09.27 | Gnarfoz | 3... |
| 23:09.35 | Gnarfoz | no takers? :< Ellipsis? |
| 23:09.46 | winkiller | I don't exactly know what you mean |
| 23:09.47 | Gnarfoz | /sadface |
| 23:09.48 | KriLL3 | if you want to call a product by a type of meat/fruit etc it has to contain more than 70% or something like that |
| 23:10.05 | winkiller | then a milkshake is called.. how? |
| 23:10.15 | KriLL3 | well that's different |
| 23:10.18 | winkiller | aha :P |
| 23:10.19 | Gnarfoz | icecream... thingy. |
| 23:10.21 | KriLL3 | that's a name of the product |
| 23:10.27 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 23:10.31 | winkiller | milk - shake |
| 23:10.33 | Gnarfoz | Chicken McNuggets is a brand name. |
| 23:10.35 | winkiller | like chicken - niugget |
| 23:10.37 | Adirelle | but, well, does it contain 70% or more milk ? |
| 23:10.37 | KriLL3 | it can't be called a strawberry milkshake though |
| 23:10.43 | KriLL3 | no |
| 23:10.45 | Gnarfoz | if anything, the nuggets should be exempt from that rule :D |
| 23:10.46 | winkiller | 5$ shake! |
| 23:10.58 | winkiller | quarter pounder with cheese :D |
| 23:11.05 | Gnarfoz | Royalllll mit Käse. |
| 23:11.13 | Gnarfoz | the dub of that movie sucks. |
| 23:11.15 | winkiller | it's the metric system |
| 23:11.17 | winkiller | :P |
| 23:11.26 | KriLL3 | to be called strawberry milkshake it would have to contain actual strawberries, it can be called strawberry flavored milkshake though |
| 23:11.28 | Gnarfoz | what'd you shoot him for?! |
| 23:11.43 | KriLL3 | winkiller: actually it's called a quarterpounder here... |
| 23:11.43 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: sounds sane enough |
| 23:11.55 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: so, your not from france, are you now! :D |
| 23:12.07 | winkiller | KriLL3: strawberry flavored, milk flavored cold thingy |
| 23:12.08 | Adirelle | I think this channel has been taken over by gluttons |
| 23:12.16 | KriLL3 | I'm Swedish, we use the metric system also but we got a lot of American influences |
| 23:12.20 | winkiller | lol |
| 23:12.22 | Gnarfoz | Adirelle: the d3 miniboss from the d3 trailer? |
| 23:12.41 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: rent "Pulp Fiction" and watch it, please. :D |
| 23:12.48 | winkiller | well, in the part of germany I come from we also have a "pound" .- it's just a term for 500g |
| 23:12.56 | Gnarfoz | that's what a pound is. |
| 23:12.57 | Pneumatus | to be called a milkshake surely it needs to also contain shaken milk |
| 23:13.04 | Pneumatus | which mcd milkshakes obviously dont |
| 23:13.09 | KriLL3 | winkiller: imo it's only good for 2 things, as an industrial lubricant or suicide by heart attack |
| 23:13.11 | Adirelle | Gnarfoz: er... no, more like that animal that eats ton of anything... |
| 23:13.11 | Pneumatus | they contain runny icecream |
| 23:13.16 | winkiller | Gnarfoz: ever tried to use that in Hamburg? :) |
| 23:13.17 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: I've seen it plenty of times :) |
| 23:13.37 | Gnarfoz | Adirelle: oO enlighten me! :) |
| 23:13.44 | winkiller | Glutton is the abomination in Razorfen Downs |
| 23:13.45 | KriLL3 | we don't use pounds at all here we're 100% metric but it's a term/word we've borrowed |
| 23:13.50 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: then why aren't you getting our quotes from it? :< |
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| 23:14.04 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: I am, just saying I'm not french... |
| 23:14.05 | winkiller | Gnarfoz: he didn't eat his popcorn |
| 23:14.14 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: Hamburgers (OH NOES PUN!) don't say "Pfund" and mean 500g? oO |
| 23:14.25 | Adirelle | Gnarfoz: that's maybe a french thing, you know, like "this animal does that" |
| 23:14.31 | winkiller | Gnarfoz: most of Germany doesn't :) neither the austrians |
| 23:14.36 | Industrial | KriLL3: industrial lubricant? |
| 23:14.37 | dieck | I can only say if you're in sweden try lingonberry milkshake |
| 23:14.40 | Industrial | call Ellipsis |
| 23:14.44 | Adirelle | which could be different between countries |
| 23:14.48 | KriLL3 | Industrial: it contains a lot of oil |
| 23:14.52 | Pneumatus | lingonberry, that's a made-up fruit, surely |
| 23:14.57 | KriLL3 | and it can't ever go bad |
| 23:15.02 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: it's a berry |
| 23:15.06 | winkiller | oil.. milkshakes.. |
| 23:15.12 | winkiller | dreams of a barrel of milkshake |
| 23:15.15 | KriLL3 | winkiller: mcd milkshake is mostly oil |
| 23:15.20 | winkiller | I don't care |
| 23:15.23 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: uhm, I've not heard of other definitions of a pound besides 500g, so I'd assume everyone I'd say that word to would know what I'm on about, but apparently not...? Hm. Hannover for me, btw. |
| 23:15.26 | winkiller | it tastes fucking awesome |
| 23:15.50 | KriLL3 | winkiller: yours might be different but the stuff served here makes me gag |
| 23:15.54 | Gnarfoz | 0.8l milkshake was the win. |
| 23:16.03 | Pneumatus | more like 450g, but :) |
| 23:16.06 | Gnarfoz | I didn't even order food. :D |
| 23:16.09 | KriLL3 | proper milkshake is mostly dairy |
| 23:16.13 | winkiller | Gnarfoz: from what I've talked to several people, some might *know* that it's 500g, but no one uses it. except southerners :P |
| 23:16.37 | dieck | winkiller: southern germans? Bayern? :) |
| 23:16.39 | KriLL3 | mcd icecream is based on oil and soy-milk powder, their shake is about the same |
| 23:16.45 | Stanzilla | Bayern > * |
| 23:16.55 | KriLL3 | the icecream got the consistency of hair gel and tastes about the same... |
| 23:17.00 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: alright, it's probably actually phased out of general use, I wasn't trying to imply that it's still used widely, just that you can use it and people probably know what you're on about |
| 23:17.04 | Pneumatus | how do euros order quarter-pounder burgers? |
| 23:17.15 | dieck | winkiller: in Niedersachsen the pound of 500g is quite common. no-one order 1/2 kilo of anything. just "1 Pfund" |
| 23:17.16 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: we've been there! :P |
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| 23:17.19 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: in Sweden you ask for a quarterpounder |
| 23:17.24 | Pneumatus | 113.39g burger? |
| 23:17.26 | dieck | Pneumatus: one Big Mac please :) |
| 23:17.34 | winkiller | Pneumatus: the problem is.. you only get burgers at McD and Burger Kifn actually |
| 23:17.38 | winkiller | and they have fixed names |
| 23:17.42 | Pneumatus | really?! |
| 23:17.45 | Gnarfoz | I always order Eintopf at BK |
| 23:17.46 | winkiller | we don't have other burger places |
| 23:17.48 | Gnarfoz | just to fuck with them. |
| 23:17.55 | dodga | royal with cheese. |
| 23:18.01 | dodga | nubs. |
| 23:18.03 | Gnarfoz | dodga: been there. |
| 23:18.05 | dieck | winkiller: I heard they'll open a Wendy's in Berlin next year :) |
| 23:18.16 | Stanzilla | Big Tasty imo |
| 23:18.17 | Gnarfoz | dieck: awesome, gotta move, gotta move! <3 |
| 23:18.25 | dodga | Oh, and Bayern sucks. BW > * :P |
| 23:18.32 | Pneumatus | so you dont have generic fast food takeaways that sell burgers? |
| 23:18.33 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: btw, we have KFC, here :X |
| 23:18.34 | dieck | Gnarfoz: if you're from Hannover, I'm faster in Berlin. <- Braunschweig ;) |
| 23:18.37 | winkiller | Pneumatus: IF you get a "burger" outside of McD/BK, they call it hamburger - and range sizes from 100g to 500g meat |
| 23:18.52 | Pneumatus | are they actually hamburgers though? |
| 23:18.56 | winkiller | Gnarfoz: that aren't burgers - that's just half a chicken in a bun |
| 23:19.02 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: not really. the two franchises majors pretty much own the entire market for *burgers |
| 23:19.16 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: true enough |
| 23:19.21 | Pneumatus | i mean, bk/mcd at least are beefburgers :) |
| 23:19.27 | dieck | Pneumatus: there are some "american style diners" around that offer burgers. and there you can get quite big ones -- but no drive-in ;) |
| 23:19.28 | winkiller | yea |
| 23:19.35 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: "QP cheese" written right on the menu above their heads, and you say it "quarterpounder" |
| 23:20.05 | Adirelle | Pneumatus: food shops are generally considered expensive |
| 23:20.10 | winkiller | Pneumatus: as dieck said, there is no "standard" - it's so rare to get a burger that they don't have a standard to watch |
| 23:20.24 | winkiller | we don't usually eat burgers |
| 23:20.28 | winkiller | at restaurants :P |
| 23:20.33 | Adirelle | right |
| 23:20.38 | Pneumatus | next you're gonna tell me you dont have kebabs either. |
| 23:20.41 | Gnarfoz | gimme a nice fat kotelett :D |
| 23:20.45 | dieck | germans are more in for Schnitzel :) |
| 23:20.52 | winkiller | yes, we have kebabs |
| 23:20.53 | dieck | or Rumpsteak |
| 23:20.59 | KriLL3 | most restaurants serve burgers, meatballs + mashed potatoes for the children |
| 23:21.01 | Gnarfoz | or Schweinshaxe :D |
| 23:21.04 | dodga | Schnizzle \o/ |
| 23:21.11 | Gnarfoz | dodga: what. |
| 23:21.18 | Pneumatus | i only know one food word in german |
| 23:21.19 | dieck | Gnarfoz: no one eats that. It's for tourists only ;) |
| 23:21.21 | winkiller | we wanted to order Schnitzel-Pizza yesterda |
| 23:21.25 | Pneumatus | spanferkel. |
| 23:21.30 | Gnarfoz | dieck: Saumagen :X |
| 23:21.33 | winkiller | because we couldn'T think of a pizza with more meat than schnitzel |
| 23:21.35 | dieck | Pneumatus: ah, delicious :) |
| 23:21.43 | KriLL3 | winkiller: does that even work? |
| 23:21.44 | Pneumatus | which, translated by a guy i played EVE with, was literally "pig on a stick" |
| 23:21.45 | dodga | Gnarfoz: Schnitzelmontag = Schnitzel all you can eat :> |
| 23:21.53 | Gnarfoz | dodga: good god. where. |
| 23:22.00 | winkiller | KriLL3: pizza can hold everything. except milkshakes :) |
| 23:22.09 | dodga | Gnarfoz: Onkel Otto, Stuttgart |
| 23:22.14 | Gnarfoz | I've seen some weird pizza toppings... |
| 23:22.30 | winkiller | Pneumatus: you put it on a stick over the fire, yes. but not served that way |
| 23:22.30 | Pneumatus | full english breakfast pizza |
| 23:22.36 | winkiller | ARG |
| 23:22.37 | KriLL3 | winkiller: but schnitzel needs to be cooked separately first right? the batter on the side facing the pizza would be near raw... |
| 23:22.37 | Gnarfoz | spaghetti pizza, dönerpizza (ugh), you name it |
| 23:22.38 | dieck | Pneumatus: that's right. if done right, you just take a small pig, slaughtered and prepared and put it over a fire, spinning it round |
| 23:22.49 | Pneumatus | yeh, spit roasted suckling pig |
| 23:22.51 | winkiller | KriLL3: ofc, we just wanted to have some of them on top |
| 23:22.56 | Adirelle | here I've seen (and ate) some weird crêpes (crepes for thoses who don't read UTF8) |
| 23:23.00 | dodga | Gnarfoz: Schnitzelpizza. Oh yes. |
| 23:23.06 | dodga | Not me, but a friend :P |
| 23:23.15 | winkiller | you spin me round and round, like a spanferkel, baby, round and round! |
| 23:23.25 | winkiller | *right |
| 23:23.29 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: you and your weird music references! :D |
| 23:23.39 | KriLL3 | winkiller: almost as odd as my buddy that eats kebab pizza with fries on top |
| 23:23.46 | winkiller | ugh |
| 23:23.51 | Gnarfoz | yumm... no, ugh. |
| 23:24.02 | winkiller | but pizza chicken curry is delicious |
| 23:24.06 | Adirelle | KriLL3: what's the issue, the pizza or the fries ? |
| 23:24.08 | KriLL3 | fries and garlic sauce |
| 23:24.11 | Gnarfoz | Döner mit alles. :> |
| 23:24.15 | winkiller | und scharf! |
| 23:24.17 | Gnarfoz | (yes, that's proper german.) |
| 23:24.18 | KriLL3 | Adirelle: the combination |
| 23:24.29 | Adirelle | ^^ |
| 23:24.33 | Gnarfoz | I'm pondering wether to get me döner-a.de |
| 23:24.42 | dodga | Gnarfoz: Und mach ma bissle Mais drauf :> |
| 23:24.45 | winkiller | you could even put another pizza on top of a pizza |
| 23:24.53 | KriLL3 | a bit like the American national foot, sausage wrapped in a chocolate chip pancake on a stick |
| 23:24.53 | dieck | winkiller: it's called Calzone :) |
| 23:24.59 | Gnarfoz | or something equally nerdy making fun of how you order Döner here ;D |
| 23:25.00 | winkiller | Diao: no, that's only 1 |
| 23:25.14 | Gnarfoz | ./configure --mit-alles --scharf --funroll-loops -O3 |
| 23:25.17 | winkiller | lol |
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| 23:25.19 | Diao | ? |
| 23:25.23 | KriLL3 | the germans sure don't have that! |
| 23:25.25 | Adirelle | well known but still funny : http://www.cmcrossroads.com/bradapp/docs/pizza-inv.html |
| 23:25.27 | Pneumatus | pancakes should never be thick enough to fit chocolate chips in :P |
| 23:25.38 | Pneumatus | the french got the right idea with crepes |
| 23:25.47 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: everything is thick enough for chocolate chips in the US :) |
| 23:25.49 | Gnarfoz | crepes are basically pancakes :> |
| 23:25.58 | winkiller | very basically |
| 23:25.59 | Gnarfoz | or the other way around, whatever |
| 23:26.07 | KriLL3 | http://www.junkfoodblog.com/uploaded_images/jimmy-dean-pancake-sausage-chocolate-chip-736804.jpg <-- proof! |
| 23:26.09 | winkiller | crepes are palatschinken |
| 23:26.15 | Gnarfoz | oO |
| 23:26.17 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 23:26.18 | Adirelle | I would say that pancakes are just thick crepes :p |
| 23:26.19 | winkiller | pancakes are pancakes :D |
| 23:26.30 | Gnarfoz | how are they schinken at all |
| 23:26.34 | Gnarfoz | there's no meat involved |
| 23:26.40 | dodga | winkiller: Yes they are :o |
| 23:26.41 | winkiller | it's austrian |
| 23:26.55 | KriLL3 | bacon pancakes are tasty, but sausage, pancakes and chocolate? *barfs* |
| 23:27.00 | Pneumatus | pancakes in the uk tend to be thin, like crepes. We have scottish pancakes, which are basically the same as US pancakes |
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| 23:27.06 | winkiller | american pancakes are double as thick as German ones. and crepes are 1/3 fof that |
| 23:27.30 | dieck | there's a nice pancake restaurant in Hannover, were you can get many combinations :) |
| 23:27.32 | Gnarfoz | uhm I had pancakes... today, actually! (lol ME forgetting when I last ate, that's something new) |
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| 23:27.39 | Gnarfoz | dieck: Milo's? :D |
| 23:27.44 | KriLL3 | here we got pancakes which is a really thing thing to 2-3mm depending on the recipe, and "oven pancakes" which is the thick stuff, the oven variety is a lot less common |
| 23:27.46 | Gnarfoz | and they were like, 2mm thick? at the most :X |
| 23:28.01 | Gnarfoz | dieck: or something like that? in Linden |
| 23:28.08 | dieck | Gnarfoz: don't know how it is called. in the street going left at the end of the Archivstraße :) |
| 23:28.23 | dodga | No new mails... rrrrrrrawwrrrrr where are teh beta key :o |
| 23:28.24 | dieck | Gnarfoz: no, just north of the old city |
| 23:28.36 | Gnarfoz | dieck: that'd be CalenbergerstraÃe |
| 23:28.49 | dieck | sounds like that, yes |
| 23:29.03 | KriLL3 | oh and btw that sausage on a stick wrapped in a chocolate chip pancake is a microwavable frozen food, for that extra class |
| 23:29.07 | Gnarfoz | hm, then I'm confusing two places that are both on the same bus route :> |
| 23:29.13 | winkiller | my train went through Hannover in late May - my only visit there :P |
| 23:29.21 | Primer | hehe I have a co-worker grinding honor for me |
| 23:29.22 | Gnarfoz | you're missing out |
| 23:29.22 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 23:29.42 | KriLL3 | I cba playing live after playing LK |
| 23:29.53 | KriLL3 | it's torture not having berserk etc |
| 23:29.54 | winkiller | I cba playing beta even if I had a key |
| 23:30.08 | ag` | I have key and I cba |
| 23:30.14 | KriLL3 | winkiller: I cba playing beta after I realized I'd have to do it all over again anyway |
| 23:30.19 | Gnarfoz | I cba. |
| 23:30.21 | winkiller | lol |
| 23:30.23 | Gnarfoz | (whatever). |
| 23:30.27 | Gnarfoz | dieck: http://maps.google.de/maps?f=q&hl=de&geocode=&q=pfannkuchenhaus&sll=52.369894,9.728158&sspn=0.002417,0.006974&ie=UTF8&ll=52.370012,9.728158&spn=0.002417,0.006974&t=h&z=18&iwloc=A ! |
| 23:30.32 | KriLL3 | I got to level 71 and completed BT, didn't want to do more |
| 23:30.34 | ag` | 1. it's a waste because you lose progress, 2. it's a waste because you destroy your live experience |
| 23:30.47 | Adirelle | cba = ? |
| 23:30.58 | KriLL3 | ag: I destroyed my live experience prior to realizing 1 :( |
| 23:31.01 | Gnarfoz | can't be assed/arsed |
| 23:31.03 | KriLL3 | aka I can't play wow at all atm |
| 23:31.06 | winkiller | Gnarfoz: and I bet you all pronounce that so funny as "fannkuchenhaus"? :P |
| 23:31.24 | ag` | KriLL3: I was more thinking of live experience when it comes out |
| 23:31.27 | KriLL3 | and the fun part is that I paid for another 6 months 3 weeks ago |
| 23:31.32 | KriLL3 | ah |
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| 23:31.35 | Gnarfoz | Pf is actually spoken as pf here |
| 23:31.42 | dieck | Gnarfoz: versenkt |
| 23:31.43 | winkiller | wow, I'm impressed |
| 23:31.56 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: what'd you expect, were the Hochdeutsch-Hochburg :> |
| 23:32.04 | Gnarfoz | Pferde are Pferde! :D |
| 23:32.09 | KriLL3 | well I'm a feral druid mostly interested in pvp, I'm nerftastic in TBC, I'm imba in LK, it's damn hard to force myself to play TBC |
| 23:32.25 | Gnarfoz | mixing German words with English like that certainly looks weird. |
| 23:32.31 | Stanzilla | indeed |
| 23:32.32 | ag` | wow, daggercap bay looks amazing |
| 23:32.36 | Stanzilla | I'm laughing all the time |
| 23:32.43 | winkiller | Pfannkuchen mit Curry-Huhn, Ananas und Champignons |
| 23:32.49 | KriLL3 | doing a third of the damage and not having berserk is kinda hard... |
| 23:32.51 | winkiller | Iwould SO order that now |
| 23:33.04 | Pneumatus | in other news, i love the new vehicle ui |
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| 23:33.11 | winkiller | even for 9.20 |
| 23:33.25 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: lol, I didn't even go to their page, awesome ;D |
| 23:33.41 | Adirelle | i'm off, later |
| 23:33.44 | winkiller | popcorn, now pancakes |
| 23:33.45 | Gnarfoz | dieck: ah, too bad, the other place I was mixing it up with doesn't seem to be googleable |
| 23:33.48 | KriLL3 | my fav pizza, ox meat, mold cheese and bearnaise sauce :D |
| 23:34.05 | Gnarfoz | sauce bernaise on pizza? |
| 23:34.07 | Gnarfoz | hm, interesting. |
| 23:34.17 | dieck | Gnarfoz: never mind, I'm not that often in Hannover for Pfannkuchen :) |
| 23:34.20 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: does the vehicle UI work properly now? it looked weird before |
| 23:34.29 | Pneumatus | yes |
| 23:34.30 | winkiller | that's the spirit. take your favorite dish and serve it on a pizza |
| 23:34.31 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: fits the ox meat, I wouldn't combine it with much else |
| 23:34.32 | Pneumatus | its all better |
| 23:34.33 | dieck | mostly driving by, A2/B6 on the way to my family |
| 23:34.38 | Gnarfoz | dieck: I doubt it's even a Pfannkuchen-place, I probably mixed it up *bad* ;D |
| 23:34.43 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: it was broken for you also before right? |
| 23:34.46 | Pneumatus | yeh |
| 23:34.50 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 23:34.56 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: everything can be made into a pizza, right? |
| 23:34.56 | dieck | Gnarfoz: does the Spaghetti-Palace still exist? ;) |
| 23:34.57 | KriLL3 | thought it might be my non standard UI scale that did it |
| 23:34.58 | Pneumatus | ill upload a pic in a sec |
| 23:35.13 | Gnarfoz | dieck: uh that's near the Marktkirche, right? |
| 23:35.17 | dieck | yes |
| 23:35.39 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: and if it's soup, just use something like Pizza Hut's cheesy crust border so it forms a kind of "pool" :D |
| 23:35.41 | KriLL3 | I really hope BT4 will be compatible with the vehicle gfx somehow :> |
| 23:35.47 | winkiller | rofl |
| 23:36.01 | Gnarfoz | dieck: hm, I'm not sure :X |
| 23:36.04 | winkiller | potato soup shouldwork as a topping though |
| 23:36.16 | Ellipsis | this conversation is getting icky :( |
| 23:36.17 | Gnarfoz | properly done, yes |
| 23:36.29 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: I hate edges like that, cheap pizza places make a big thick crust edge to cut down on the space they need to cover with ingredients |
| 23:36.29 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: come on in, child |
| 23:36.32 | dodga | Man I got a lot of one day exempts :D |
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| 23:36.49 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: uhm, have you ever had cheesy crust Pizza Hut pizza? |
| 23:36.55 | KriLL3 | nope |
| 23:37.01 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: it's literally MADE OF AWESOMENESS. |
| 23:37.05 | winkiller | and cheese |
| 23:37.05 | Pneumatus | http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot082308003451ki3.jpg |
| 23:37.06 | KriLL3 | I'll take your word for it |
| 23:37.31 | Gnarfoz | they actually put *more* tasty stuff on the pizza this way, because they fill the crust with cheese. :D |
| 23:37.40 | KriLL3 | I've seen like 4 pizza huts in Sweden and I'm well traveled, they all served American style "pan pizza" which I hate |
| 23:37.45 | winkiller | stop talking about food, ffs |
| 23:37.46 | KriLL3 | oh |
| 23:38.06 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: huh, isn't Pizza Hut a franchise? they should have "Big N.Y." pizzas, too |
| 23:38.21 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: is your ui scale super high or does it scale depending on the amount of bar items?... |
| 23:38.23 | Gnarfoz | which is basically what "us europeans" know as a pizza (i.e. not in a damn pan :D) |
| 23:38.37 | winkiller | pan pizza shouldn't be called pizza, actually. I love it anyway though :P |
| 23:38.40 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: huh? |
| 23:38.47 | Pneumatus | well, a vehicle is never gonna have more than 6 abilities |
| 23:38.50 | Pneumatus | but its that size |
| 23:39.01 | KriLL3 | as said I've seen a total of 4 pizza huts, with the logo and everything, and they only serve "pan pizza" |
| 23:39.19 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: seems a bit ginormous to me |
| 23:39.22 | winkiller | Gnarfoz: our Pizza Huts also only had pan until ~5 years ago or so |
| 23:39.25 | winkiller | maybe 10 |
| 23:39.27 | winkiller | not sure |
| 23:39.34 | Gnarfoz | o_O that's mega fail right there |
| 23:39.34 | winkiller | in the beginning there was only pan pizza |
| 23:39.47 | winkiller | (sounds like from the bible) |
| 23:39.52 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 23:39.57 | KriLL3 | your standard pizza location here isn't a franchise, it's run by an immigrant (I'm not being racist, it's true) and they usually run 1-3 locations tops |
| 23:39.58 | Gnarfoz | in the beginning... there was pizza. |
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| 23:40.10 | KriLL3 | and they don't serve pan pizza |
| 23:40.19 | winkiller | whichis a good thing |
| 23:40.21 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 23:40.22 | Gnarfoz | indeed it is! |
| 23:40.32 | Stanzilla | now I'm hungry you fools :/ |
| 23:40.32 | Gnarfoz | just saying |
| 23:40.34 | KriLL3 | though I like the pizzas you make into a boat or bubble |
| 23:40.42 | winkiller | Stanzilla: I've been since the popcorn part :( |
| 23:40.45 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: well... |
| 23:40.59 | Stanzilla | the only thing left here is Prinzenrolle >.< |
| 23:41.18 | Gnarfoz | so none of you guys is actually from Hannover? just passers-through, visistors and pancake afficionados? :X |
| 23:41.27 | winkiller | I would have to get up and be noisy :( |
| 23:41.34 | Gnarfoz | what the heck are visistors. visitors! :P |
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| 23:41.35 | KriLL3 | my ox meat, mold cheese and bearnaise sauce pizza is usually "half baked" means it's smaller than a normal pizza but the filling is deeper and the edge is raised like an oval pool |
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| 23:41.46 | Gnarfoz | more sauce. |
| 23:41.53 | winkiller | weaksauce |
| 23:41.54 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:42.02 | Gnarfoz | bernaise certainly isn't weak |
| 23:42.03 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:42.04 | KriLL3 | means the filling isn't all liquid like a "baked" pizza and you get more filling :) |
| 23:42.12 | winkiller | calzone |
| 23:42.16 | KriLL3 | yeah |
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| 23:42.34 | KriLL3 | that's one kind of pizza done like that, you can say baked to anything here and it's done like that with any content |
| 23:42.39 | winkiller | I'm so gonna plunder the drige when I get up tomorrow |
| 23:42.45 | KriLL3 | or half baked and it's done the way I described |
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| 23:42.53 | winkiller | s/drige/fridge/ |
| 23:43.15 | fewyn | Anyone familiar with druids and potting on live? |
| 23:43.19 | fewyn | and macros |
| 23:43.21 | dodga | why wait until tomorrow :> |
| 23:43.25 | ashb | >_< Domino doesn't do range colouring....? |
| 23:43.29 | dodga | do it now, hush! :> |
| 23:43.30 | winkiller | /script MakePizza() |
| 23:43.40 | Stanzilla | ashb: get RedRange by Iriel |
| 23:43.48 | KriLL3 | http://www.metropol-arboga.se/Bilder/Musaj_pizza_ov2.jpg not a brilliant pic but it should convey the meaning |
| 23:43.54 | winkiller | no, I can't get up. my chair is so loud and the girl will wake up |
| 23:44.04 | winkiller | smaklig! |
| 23:44.06 | winkiller | I know that word |
| 23:44.07 | KriLL3 | fewyn: what do you want to know? |
| 23:44.07 | dieck | fewyn: http://ace.pastey.net/94477 |
| 23:44.12 | dodga | "the girl"...? |
| 23:44.27 | winkiller | yeah, the girl. that's sleeping not too far |
| 23:44.34 | winkiller | *who's |
| 23:44.36 | KriLL3 | dieck: how does that macro work? |
| 23:44.40 | dodga | wtf are you doing on irc, chitchatting about food when there's a girl in your room? :o |
| 23:44.40 | KriLL3 | hit it twice? |
| 23:44.41 | winkiller | girl as in ~friend |
| 23:44.49 | dodga | yeah, whatev. :P |
| 23:44.52 | winkiller | she's asleep |
| 23:44.59 | dodga | so? wake her up! :> |
| 23:45.07 | dodga | Maybe she's hungry, too? |
| 23:45.11 | winkiller | rofl |
| 23:45.13 | dieck | KriLL3: drop form, take a healthstone and/or Healing Pot, go bear :) |
| 23:45.21 | Gnarfoz | maybe she's TIRED, too, and that's why she's asleep? :D |
| 23:45.39 | KriLL3 | really nice that you can do almost everything in feral forms in LK, dunno if you can combine crystallized though, haven't found enough of em yet, loved falling out of swift flight when opening a clam, combining motes etc... |
| 23:45.42 | dieck | KriLL3: if you're out of gcd it will be instantaneos |
| 23:45.51 | KriLL3 | dieck: nice |
| 23:45.52 | dodga | Actually I already see the dialgoue: "Hey I'm making something to eat. Want something?" - "Nah, I'll just grab your food." |
| 23:45.57 | dodga | Gnarfoz: You think? |
| 23:45.58 | ashb | Stanzilla: ta |
| 23:46.02 | winkiller | mhm, instanteneous pizza |
| 23:46.07 | Gnarfoz | dodga: yeah, that's how it usually plays out, anyway, doesn't it |
| 23:46.21 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: wtb Pizzadrucker. |
| 23:46.30 | Stanzilla | ! |
| 23:46.31 | KriLL3 | pizza rolls are also nice |
| 23:46.43 | dodga | Data Becker's Pizzadruckerei? |
| 23:46.46 | KriLL3 | you take a regular pizza or perhaps a square on and roll it after baking :) wrap i foil |
| 23:47.06 | winkiller | Gnarfoz: bad idea. what if the tomato cartrdige is empty without you noticing? |
| 23:47.20 | KriLL3 | keeps warm for ages and you can eat it from your hand |
| 23:47.24 | Gnarfoz | dodga: lol, I can so see that right now |
| 23:47.30 | dodga | Me too |
| 23:47.41 | dodga | I already envision the TV spot |
| 23:47.42 | winkiller | but layouting would be cool |
| 23:47.46 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: not certain. you'd probably just have more cheese. |
| 23:47.50 | winkiller | no more odd number of toppings on a slice! |
| 23:48.03 | Gnarfoz | lol, My First Pizza Layout Creator |
| 23:48.05 | KriLL3 | dieck: I so wished potion injectors worked like a container or something for potions, or you could drag potions on em to re-supply |
| 23:48.08 | KriLL3 | making new ones suck |
| 23:48.17 | winkiller | ONOES, my pizza crashed |
| 23:48.21 | dodga | "Are you tired of those same old pizzas? Black and white every day? Well fear not, we have THE thing for you: Pizza Printer!" |
| 23:48.22 | dieck | KriLL3: at least you can stack them :) |
| 23:48.25 | Gnarfoz | actually, that reminds me of Pizza Connection / Pizza Syndicate. :D |
| 23:48.37 | KriLL3 | dieck: yeah but I had old ones when they changed that, was really weird |
| 23:48.38 | dodga | Gnarfoz: I have Pizza Connection here :> |
| 23:48.39 | winkiller | Pizza Connection was awesome |
| 23:50.17 | winkiller | I also got the cd somewhere |
| 23:50.17 | dodga | Bought it at a con several years ago :D |
| 23:50.17 | Gnarfoz | an actual "mafia" game that made sense! :D |
| 23:50.17 | winkiller | dope wars didn't? |
| 23:50.17 | KriLL3 | if you could re-fill em they should need more/rarer mats of but I'd gladly trade that |
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| 23:51.11 | Gnarfoz | dunno, I'm into food, not drugs! :p |
| 23:51.18 | dieck | KriLL3: as I have a engineer myself with both injectors, I've got no problems :) |
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| 23:51.19 | winkiller | yeah. but once we wanted to recreate it as a browsergame |
| 23:51.20 | winkiller | but without drugs |
| 23:51.21 | KriLL3 | dieck: it was just a bit confusing, I returned long after the change and never saw it in patchnotes |
| 23:52.31 | winkiller | patchnotes reads like potatoes. after all this food talk |
| 23:52.33 | dieck | KriLL3: I started using them lately, as bag space began to matter :) |
| 23:53.17 | Ellipsis | om nom nom mashed patchnotes? |
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| 23:53.21 | dieck | winkiller: mehlig? |
| 23:53.22 | winkiller | exactly |
| 23:53.23 | winkiller | or potato wedges instad of patchnote changes |
| 23:53.24 | KriLL3 | dieck: I recently bought a full set of giantique bags |
| 23:53.24 | winkiller | whatever :P |
| 23:53.24 | winkiller | incidentally I bought a set of potatoes today |
| 23:53.24 | winkiller | but not a full set |
| 23:53.24 | dieck | KriLL3: show-off :) |
| 23:53.24 | KriLL3 | about half of that bagspace is permanently occupied |
| 23:53.24 | KriLL3 | dieck: anyone that's done dailies for a couple of weeks got that kind of gold |
| 23:53.24 | winkiller | my warrior has 3*20+18 and never more than 10 free |
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| 23:53.24 | KriLL3 | ouch |
| 23:53.25 | winkiller | and it's an alt :P |
| 23:53.25 | winkiller | but engi |
| 23:53.25 | winkiller | :P |
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| 23:53.25 | dieck | i got ~13k, but why spend it on bags :) I've got no problems after I started buying 2 bank tabs for my mule :) |
| 23:53.25 | KriLL3 | I guess you don't loot a lot of gray items |
| 23:53.49 | winkiller | my druid has 2*20+2*18 and never more than 15 free. damn 4 gear sets |
| 23:53.49 | KriLL3 | dieck: I got 5 level 1 chars with a full set of 18 slot / 22 slot profession bags =P |
| 23:53.49 | winkiller | rofl |
| 23:53.49 | KriLL3 | set em up back when each backslot cost more than the last |
| 23:53.49 | dodga | http://www.abload.de/img/pizzaconnectiongdn.jpg ihihihi :> |
| 23:53.49 | winkiller | I have 10 chars, lowest is 19 |
| 23:53.49 | winkiller | and ALL have full bankslots |
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| 23:53.49 | winkiller | :P |
| 23:54.08 | winkiller | no space for bank alts |
| 23:54.08 | KriLL3 | winkiller: my druid has tanking and dps sets, and some items for pvp |
| 23:54.26 | winkiller | tankset, dps set, healing set, balance set, and some pvp items |
| 23:54.39 | winkiller | warrior has tank(mitigation), dps, threat, pvp, style |
| 23:54.39 | KriLL3 | I only play one char, my druid, got a 60 rogue, 32 shaman, 42 warrior 18 paladin, cba leveling em |
| 23:54.50 | winkiller | full brewfest set+ram |
| 23:55.01 | KriLL3 | winkiller: why keep items you need to respec to use? |
| 23:55.01 | dieck | I don't know yet wether I should sell most stuff before LK, or wait if the prices reach new levels :) |
| 23:55.03 | KriLL3 | I got em in my bak |
| 23:55.05 | KriLL3 | *bank |
| 23:55.19 | winkiller | uhm. I do my dailies in dps gear and pvp often |
| 23:55.31 | winkiller | and my druid always used his healing set when I was feral |
| 23:55.32 | KriLL3 | dieck: I got 84 primal airs, I log on that alt from time to time and sell a couple |
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| 23:55.43 | KriLL3 | winkiller: huh? |
| 23:55.56 | KriLL3 | why use resto gear as feral? |
| 23:55.58 | winkiller | I use all sets except the balance set |
| 23:56.03 | winkiller | for healing stuff? |
| 23:56.10 | KriLL3 | what healing stuff? |
| 23:56.14 | winkiller | stuff :P |
| 23:56.21 | winkiller | 5mans, group quests |
| 23:56.34 | winkiller | ok, theat damn pug refused me at gruul |
| 23:56.38 | dieck | you heal 5mans in feral spec? |
| 23:56.47 | winkiller | non-heroics, yea |
| 23:56.51 | KriLL3 | you can't change armor in combat/arena, I keep weapon offhand and idol for healing in pvp but the rest of my healing gear is in my bank, I don't have a balance set |
| 23:56.53 | winkiller | not ofent hough |
| 23:56.56 | dieck | ah, non-heroics :) |
| 23:57.07 | KriLL3 | I only tank in instances |
| 23:57.12 | dieck | never been there lately, no badges :) |
| 23:57.16 | winkiller | hehe |
| 23:57.26 | KriLL3 | I've dps:ed like once or twice... |
| 23:57.31 | winkiller | same |
| 23:57.32 | KriLL3 | felt really odd |
| 23:57.53 | winkiller | it's fun for a change |
| 23:58.00 | KriLL3 | was really hard to remove the instinct of trying to keep aggro =P |
| 23:58.09 | winkiller | but if then again with my rogue main.. it's not a big change |
| 23:58.13 | KriLL3 | I've tanked in instances for a couple of years... |
| 23:58.22 | dieck | KriLL3: I have that at every bossfight where I have to go kitty :) |
| 23:58.44 | winkiller | never really raided as feral |
| 23:58.52 | KriLL3 | me neither |
| 23:58.55 | winkiller | just Gruul and Maggy, and there I tanked |
| 23:58.57 | dieck | so I put Cower on the key where Growl is in bear ;) |
| 23:58.59 | KriLL3 | I do heroics for badges |
| 23:59.04 | winkiller | lol |
| 23:59.13 | winkiller | I don't even have cower bound |
| 23:59.20 | dodga | I can't save myelf from badges |
| 23:59.21 | KriLL3 | me neither |
| 23:59.33 | dodga | nearly 600 of them in the bank |
| 23:59.34 | KriLL3 | I put it on another bar and clicked it |
| 23:59.37 | dodga | nothing to spend them on |
| 23:59.45 | KriLL3 | dodga: I hate you :( |
| 23:59.49 | dodga | <3 |
| 23:59.55 | winkiller | once I had 450 badges. spread over 5 chars |
