| 00:00.14 | jaxdahl | here's to hoping for a raise of the cap to 80 by next week |
| 00:00.43 | Trell_ | Coldarra isn't down |
| 00:02.01 | Neo|Other | sweet. I helped a dev (or something, I assume it's a dev) reproduce the mac beta crash |
| 00:02.21 | Trell_ | it was a keylogger, masquerading as a dev. |
| 00:02.34 | Neo|Other | I think he's a tech support guy or something |
| 00:03.45 | Polarina | Neo|Other: Congratulations! |
| 00:04.32 | Neo|Other | I did report the same issue to Blizzard when I crashed (and, I think, via /bug) but it's better when it has a confirmed in-house repeatability |
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| 00:05.53 | orionshock | oh wow, the boat is "rocking" back and forth... |
| 00:05.57 | Funkeh` | who broke mmo champion |
| 00:06.05 | orionshock | someone was bored and put that in |
| 00:06.29 | Trell_ | Funkeh`: Bibi |
| 00:06.36 | Trell_ | (in before he blames me again) |
| 00:06.42 | Funkeh` | Bibi, you fucking retard |
| 00:07.17 | Funkeh` | he's afk :< |
| 00:07.39 | Funkeh` | Trell_, you fucking retard! |
| 00:07.47 | Bibi | see, it works even if I don't talk. |
| 00:08.04 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 00:08.05 | Trell_ | :( |
| 00:08.10 | Trell_ | wtf how did that turn round onto me |
| 00:08.14 | Ellipsis | owned. |
| 00:08.23 | Neo|Other | Trell_: guilt by association |
| 00:09.31 | Funkeh` | me thinks pallys need some wotlk nerfing |
| 00:09.57 | Neo|Other | so does Blizzard |
| 00:10.30 | Pkekyo| | I'm not stupid...I just have bad luck when I think :( |
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| 00:11.51 | NivFreak | Neo|Other: I can't fly over hinterlands on my mac in beta |
| 00:12.15 | Pkekyo| | NivFreak: you're not missing out on anything, hinterlands sucks :p |
| 00:12.18 | NivFreak | haha |
| 00:12.23 | Neo|Other | NivFreak: same bug |
| 00:12.27 | NivFreak | I was flying to the dark portal from ebon hold |
| 00:12.28 | Neo|Other | NivFreak: and yes I crashed there too |
| 00:12.34 | NivFreak | had to go install the beta client on my PC |
| 00:12.38 | NivFreak | and fly myself out |
| 00:12.40 | Neo|Other | you can get past it. make the view distance minimum |
| 00:12.40 | duntherk | and your toon is perma-stuck there, right? |
| 00:12.43 | Neo|Other | and look up ni the sky |
| 00:12.56 | NivFreak | nah, I got him out by using a PC |
| 00:12.59 | Neo|Other | or just keep logging in for a little while and every time you log in, you move a small amount |
| 00:13.08 | Neo|Other | just saying, pc not needed |
| 00:13.10 | NivFreak | the problem was that you land in hinterlands |
| 00:13.13 | selckin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:13.15 | NivFreak | since you DC during flight |
| 00:13.21 | Neo|Other | I didn't. I landed in ironforge |
| 00:13.23 | NivFreak | I'm guessing bad datafile or something |
| 00:13.27 | NivFreak | I'm horde :P |
| 00:13.33 | Neo|Other | might be the difference |
| 00:13.37 | Neo|Other | worde of advice |
| 00:13.44 | Neo|Other | run with medium viewing distance |
| 00:13.55 | Neo|Other | and try to avoid the red crystal in HFP |
| 00:13.56 | Neo|Other | it crashes too |
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| 00:14.12 | steev | ROFL |
| 00:14.21 | steev | one of our druid tanks logs in to vent |
| 00:14.35 | steev | and he's like heeey but he's russian so its kinda heavy accent |
| 00:14.47 | steev | and so im like heeeeeey all sexy like in response |
| 00:14.57 | steev | and he's like, are you wearing season 3 or season 4 right now? |
| 00:16.03 | Pkekyo| | bwaghhahah |
| 00:16.05 | Diao | o_o |
| 00:16.17 | Pkekyo| | nerd-love...there's just nothing quite as wrong as it |
| 00:16.19 | Neo|Other | question here then - F or M? |
| 00:16.36 | steev | both of us are M |
| 00:16.39 | Ellipsis | does it matter? either way I want to hear moar |
| 00:16.40 | Pkekyo| | Neo|Other: Q |
| 00:16.50 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: you perv |
| 00:17.00 | Pkekyo| | plonks Ellipsis. Hard. Sideways. From behind. |
| 00:17.04 | steev | and i'd guess me being "steev" and saying "he's" |
| 00:17.23 | Neo|Other | hey there are guys named Ashley |
| 00:17.27 | Neo|Other | so everything is possible |
| 00:17.45 | Pkekyo| | I'd bet Neo|Other found that out the hard way :D |
| 00:18.17 | Ellipsis | rawr |
| 00:19.53 | steev | okay - heroixs |
| 00:20.06 | steev | when you reset em |
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| 00:20.14 | steev | you can't get badges - but can you still get gear? |
| 00:20.24 | steev | well - badges from the bosses downed |
| 00:20.26 | mjc | beta win. |
| 00:20.27 | Neo|Other | I didn't no |
| 00:20.41 | Neo|Other | steev: you can't reset them? |
| 00:20.44 | seracht | Trell |
| 00:20.46 | seracht | do you here? |
| 00:20.48 | seracht | er |
| 00:20.49 | Neo|Other | just like you can't reset a raid |
| 00:20.56 | seracht | you know the texture of the backgrounds on the panels, what is that texture |
| 00:21.05 | steev | Neo|Other: yes you can - they reset - adds and bosses come back, you just don't get badges |
| 00:21.27 | Neo|Other | never noticed that I guess |
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| 00:21.53 | Pkekyo| | do you think muslims listen to "We Will Rock You" when they're stoning people? :P |
| 00:22.55 | seracht | never mind found it |
| 00:24.40 | seracht | what addon changes your minimap to a square? |
| 00:24.59 | seracht | also is there someway to consolidate all your addons (around minimaps) into 1 icon |
| 00:25.03 | Pkekyo| | Squeenix, seracht |
| 00:25.17 | orionshock | aight, time to go get tour guide.... |
| 00:25.19 | orionshock | :\ |
| 00:26.06 | seracht | Pkekyo| how about making them all into 1 thing |
| 00:26.21 | seracht | does squeenix do that too |
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| 00:26.46 | Pkekyo| | not that I know |
| 00:26.54 | seracht | hmm |
| 00:27.05 | seracht | kinda annoying to have 15 things around the minimap....and I don't like fubar :( |
| 00:27.19 | seracht | meh, it will hae to do |
| 00:27.22 | seracht | thanks |
| 00:27.27 | Dark_Elf | minimap button frame |
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| 00:32.15 | Neo|Other | seracht: ButtonBin! |
| 00:32.17 | seracht | Trell_ you here? |
| 00:32.18 | seracht | thanks Neo |
| 00:32.40 | Neo|Other | it doesn't deal with minimal buttons, but allows you to make really combat stuff like LDB |
| 00:32.56 | Neo|Other | err. with LDB objects, which can include fubar provided stuff using FuBar2Broker |
| 00:34.16 | Trell_ | yes seracht |
| 00:34.28 | Trell_ | whats up? |
| 00:41.21 | orionshock | Tekkub: u got any guides for northrind yet? |
| 00:42.33 | Neo|Other | northrind. lol |
| 00:42.48 | Chompers | northgrind, ooooh |
| 00:43.03 | Neo|Other | makes me think of pork rinds, but chillier |
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| 00:46.59 | Trell_ | he said he has |
| 00:47.31 | Trell_ | and I quote: "I firmly believe that you should not use a guide the first time you play thru new content. To live up to that, I will not be releasing my wrath guides (which I'm currently in the process of creating) until some time after Wrath goes live. Creative people will still be able to find them, I just won't be pushing out an official release the minute Wrath is in stores." |
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| 00:50.09 | fewyn | :D |
| 00:50.12 | fewyn | i agree |
| 00:51.31 | dodga | but I need to be server first 80 priest :\ |
| 00:51.46 | Ellipsis | then make your own guide :P |
| 00:52.07 | dodga | Prffft I'll just grind Ellipsis |
| 00:52.17 | dodga | Errr I mean little vicious female mobs |
| 00:52.20 | Chompers | to teks svn we go! |
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| 00:52.29 | dodga | Eeeeh I mean instances. Phew. Close one. |
| 00:53.31 | Ellipsis | glares at dodga |
| 00:53.32 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 00:53.39 | dodga | y so srs? :P |
| 00:53.43 | Trell_ | the thing is, at least in Borean Tundra, it's easy to level with quests |
| 00:53.46 | Trell_ | they're all very linear |
| 00:53.51 | Trell_ | and pretty close together |
| 00:54.06 | Trell_ | you can easily work out from the descriptions that you can go do quest x and quest n at once |
| 00:54.34 | Trell_ | althought I will confess to having to check out wowhead comments for a couple of quests :( |
| 00:54.48 | Ellipsis | fjord isn't quite as good for that, but it still works |
| 00:54.52 | seracht | Trell_, quick question. What texture is used for the borders of the panels? |
| 00:55.31 | Trell_ | ah, 1 second |
| 00:56.43 | Trell_ | bah means ive got to log in. |
| 00:57.00 | seracht | :( sorry |
| 00:57.19 | Trell_ | you should be, my work is suffering because of you |
| 00:57.23 | Trell_ | but its ok, 'cos it's boring me |
| 00:57.34 | seracht | kik |
| 00:57.50 | Neo|Other | I found Borean Tundra to be rather chaotic and disconnected |
| 00:57.58 | Neo|Other | nowhere near as "clean" as most BC zones |
| 00:58.00 | Neo|Other | imho |
| 00:58.09 | Trell_ | I found it a lot easier than most BC zones >_< |
| 00:58.34 | fewyn | i liked howling fjord |
| 00:58.38 | dodga | So who's legs do I have to hump for a beta key? :P |
| 00:58.40 | Neo|Other | what I found was that I did a few quests and upon looking for the location of another, ran into a new quest hup |
| 00:58.41 | fewyn | horde side at least |
| 00:58.47 | Neo|Other | this was repeated like 3-4 times |
| 00:58.49 | Trell_ | dodga; Funkeh`'s legs. |
| 00:58.59 | Funkeh` | ?? |
| 00:59.04 | dodga | Brrr.. I hoped for Ellipsis, but meh |
| 00:59.04 | Neo|Other | now I have quests from all over the place |
| 00:59.05 | Trell_ | Neo|Other; so, you pick them up, and continue |
| 00:59.13 | Funkeh` | Trell_, how about you concenrate on getting the website back up |
| 00:59.34 | fewyn | i complete my quests in packs so i haven't ran into that Neo|Other |
| 00:59.42 | Trell_ | Funkeh`; it is up |
| 00:59.44 | Neo|Other | Trell_: it's just not as "clean" |
| 00:59.44 | Ellipsis | Neo|Other: that's what I felt like in fjord |
| 00:59.45 | Trell_ | has been for ages |
| 00:59.48 | Neo|Other | there's no obvious progression |
| 00:59.49 | Ellipsis | tundra seemed more tbc-ish to me |
| 01:00.00 | Trell_ | seracht; HalBackgroundA.tga |
| 01:00.11 | Funkeh` | Trell_, I meant on the internet, not your machine |
| 01:00.13 | Neo|Other | you don't get "carrot quests" to lead you on to new places as much I don't think |
| 01:00.17 | Trell_ | and HalBorder.tga |
| 01:00.25 | Trell_ | screw you Funkeh` |
| 01:00.26 | Trell_ | :P |
| 01:00.37 | Funkeh` | no seriously |
| 01:00.40 | Funkeh` | are you changing dns |
| 01:00.41 | Trell_ | its up! |
| 01:00.43 | Trell_ | seriously. |
| 01:00.48 | Neo|Other | naturally part of it is not knowing the zone |
| 01:00.58 | Trell_ | scratch that |
| 01:00.59 | Funkeh` | as it's not up for me |
| 01:01.01 | Trell_ | ffs |
| 01:01.05 | Neo|Other | but I definitely didn't get that "ah, this is nice and refreshing" feeling of BC (compared to pre-bc) |
| 01:01.26 | Trell_ | put it this way, it WAS up |
| 01:01.45 | Funkeh` | grats on your temporary success |
| 01:01.52 | Funkeh` | now concentrate on fixing your failure |
| 01:01.56 | Neo|Other | fewyn: I try to.. but when I go trying to find the right spot, and run into two different other quest areas.. :P |
| 01:02.01 | Funkeh` | ;p |
| 01:02.09 | Trell_ | all I can do is ping the man |
| 01:02.11 | fewyn | heh |
| 01:02.44 | Trell_ | anyway, back to Borean Tundra - Neo|Other: I found the quests easy to 'link' together |
| 01:02.53 | Funkeh` | Trell_, yeah ping works, just something with the pages not being distribute |
| 01:03.03 | Trell_ | from valiance, complete all those, which lead you on to the first walrus quests |
| 01:03.17 | Neo|Other | Trell_: so I finish the first bunch of quests and then try to go to the airfield or whatever quest I had left, and ran into the druid spot |
| 01:03.20 | Trell_ | then the couple of naga ones, then back to valiance, few in there, then over to the farshire town |
| 01:03.21 | Trell_ | loads there |
| 01:03.27 | Neo|Other | do those quests and run into the area with the tuskarr |
| 01:03.34 | Trell_ | then it naturally leads you to the DEHTA quest chains |
| 01:03.38 | Funkeh` | scratch that, ping doesn't work |
| 01:03.41 | Funkeh` | I typoed mmo |
| 01:03.43 | Neo|Other | and doing those I ran into the quest hub with the dragon as a flight master |
| 01:03.44 | Neo|Other | etc |
| 01:03.48 | Trell_ | which then lead to more tuskarr ones, then the dragon ones |
| 01:03.50 | Neo|Other | and I didn't finish the quests on the way |
| 01:03.57 | Trell_ | well, thats your fault then |
| 01:04.04 | Neo|Other | there's no connection between them |
| 01:04.10 | Trell_ | pick all the quests up, but don't get sidetracked, seriously |
| 01:04.18 | Neo|Other | there's no "go do dehta quests" or "go do tuskarr quests in the quarry" etc |
| 01:04.33 | Neo|Other | it's not bad per se - not like I don't have stuff to do |
| 01:04.44 | Trell_ | stick to doing one chunk at a time, think of it as valiance chunk, then farshire chunk, then dehta chunk, then tuskarr chunk, then amber ridge chunk, then murloc chunk, and so on |
| 01:04.45 | Neo|Other | but it doesn't feel as "polished" as BC zones |
| 01:04.47 | Neo|Other | more like pre-bc |
| 01:05.11 | fewyn | that's how i am doing it Trell_ |
| 01:05.14 | fewyn | except horde side |
| 01:05.20 | Trell_ | horde smell |
| 01:05.21 | Neo|Other | I was trying to |
| 01:05.28 | fewyn | Me > * |
| 01:05.36 | Trell_ | the DEHTA quests were awesome |
| 01:05.40 | Neo|Other | but when you run into a new hub trying to do some quests you have no uidea where they are, I did those |
| 01:05.43 | Trell_ | really enjoyed the culmination of them |
| 01:05.47 | Neo|Other | esp when the quest location was right next to it |
| 01:05.54 | Neo|Other | Each hub is fine |
| 01:06.01 | Trell_ | fewyn; http://exposureroom.com/members/Trell.aspx/assets/2527908927574ffcb0fb47ca4736fe37/ |
| 01:06.06 | Neo|Other | it's just feels liek they are completely different without any correlation |
| 01:06.07 | Trell_ | my fave quest so far |
| 01:06.26 | Trell_ | Neo|Other; theyr'e all in 'chunks' as I said, at least thats how I view them |
| 01:06.29 | Trell_ | meh |
| 01:06.37 | Ellipsis | the only spot in borean that really bothered me about the quest organization was how amber ledge sent you to the murloc cave before you'd even been to fizzcrank to pick up the king mrgl-mgrl breadcrumb |
| 01:06.39 | Neo|Other | they are |
| 01:06.46 | Neo|Other | completely unrelated chunks without flow |
| 01:07.08 | fewyn | Trell_ Yea I did that on my spriest the other day =p |
| 01:07.11 | fewyn | it was awesome |
| 01:07.13 | Neo|Other | Ellipsis: I already did all murloc quests and didn't do any amber ledge murloc quest |
| 01:07.20 | Trell_ | me either Ellipsis |
| 01:07.28 | JerleMinara | does the vehicle stuff work with bartender 4? |
| 01:07.28 | Trell_ | although I've only just started on the Fizzcrank 'chunk' |
| 01:07.39 | fewyn | I have 2 alliance 70s and 2 horde 70s |
| 01:07.39 | Neo|Other | basically I had the mrgl-mrgl quest, but hadn't done amber ledge yet (due to trying to stick in the order I got quests) |
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| 01:07.50 | JerleMinara | i think i remember it not realy working on the death knight stuff and i'm wondering if it's gotten fixede |
| 01:07.52 | fewyn | my druid is my main focus tho |
| 01:07.54 | Ellipsis | Neo|Other: amber ledge has the 3-part readings quest |
| 01:07.57 | Neo|Other | I guess my main point is |
| 01:08.01 | Neo|Other | yeah I did the first part |
| 01:08.04 | Ellipsis | the third part is at the murloc cave |
| 01:08.07 | Trell_ | yeah I did all 3 of those |
| 01:08.20 | Neo|Other | the main point is... TourGuide will be immensly useful |
| 01:08.29 | Ellipsis | someday :P |
| 01:08.31 | Neo|Other | more so than most BC zones |
| 01:09.19 | kenlyric | because of bad design? |
| 01:09.26 | kenlyric | tbc clustered very very well |
| 01:09.41 | Neo|Other | IMHO it's not designed as well |
| 01:10.05 | seracht | Thanks Trell_ |
| 01:10.07 | kenlyric | I imagine that would be part of a polish pass |
| 01:10.14 | Neo|Other | and we'ev just given one example where I have to double back due to not completing quests in the "correct" order where Ellipsis has to do the same for anothe reason |
| 01:10.50 | Trell_ | I've just realised I've been listening to Sophie Ellis Bexter on repeat >_< |
| 01:10.57 | Neo|Other | I just remember BC being a lot more well clustered with natural progression |
| 01:11.10 | Neo|Other | like in HFP you do quests around honor hold and then are told to progress to the temple |
| 01:11.14 | Neo|Other | and then do quests around there |
| 01:11.31 | Trell_ | Neo|Other; that was confusing for me (as alliance) on BC day - I kept finding loads of quest hubs there too |
| 01:11.54 | Neo|Other | Borean Tundra really inflates this imho |
| 01:12.25 | Neo|Other | it just was so random to run into the tuskarr quarry area withotu any prior 'idea' it might be there |
| 01:12.47 | Neo|Other | perhaps there would have been a cookie crumg from the tuskarr village that's overrun by vikings but I did that after the quarry |
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| 01:17.22 | seracht | hi, with eePanels2, how do i add my custom textures to it? |
| 01:18.25 | seracht | never midn |
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| 01:30.46 | CIA-46 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80747 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua: |
| 01:30.46 | CIA-46 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 01:30.46 | CIA-46 | Change the way guild is queried due to guilds with >500 ppl. Update the |
| 01:30.46 | CIA-46 | return values from WhoInfo() |
| 01:38.46 | Xelo | do fall through macros still work? |
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| 01:48.29 | fewyn | poo |
| 01:48.46 | fewyn | tomtom isn't working in wrath right... at least not the arrow |
| 01:49.07 | Woodish | Does anyone know of a mod for displaying combopoints in a moveable frame? |
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| 02:32.27 | Xelo | Any pro KJ dragons around? |
| 02:42.52 | seracht | Trell_ you here? |
| 02:43.18 | Woodish | Hello guys, anyone use or is familar with RBM? |
| 02:43.34 | ReAn | Recount have a 3.0 Branch yet? |
| 02:46.38 | seracht | Trell_ do you know how he made those panels lol |
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| 02:51.56 | orionshock | i guess astrolab hasn't been updated for WotLK? |
| 02:52.39 | Kaelten | anyone know the name of the quickshot border texture that people keep bugging me about for onebag? |
| 02:52.41 | Kaelten | quickslot* |
| 02:53.21 | seracht | what plugins do you need for Prat normally? or is the default addon good enough |
| 02:54.10 | Ikz | orion, was that mod not possible to do? |
| 02:54.36 | orionshock | it is, just fubared how the function identify's the spell |
| 02:54.46 | orionshock | don't have a mage and cant remember how to fix it.. |
| 02:55.14 | ReAn | orionshock, i have a mage on beta/live, need help? |
| 02:55.25 | orionshock | na |
| 02:55.36 | orionshock | real problem Ikz i just don't care that much... sorry |
| 02:56.09 | Ikz | Eh. Well I offered money. |
| 02:56.33 | Ellipsis | save your offers of money for someone who can code |
| 02:56.53 | ulic | Kaelten: been a while since i looked that on up, but if I recall it is called QuickSlot or something similar |
| 02:57.08 | Kaelten | ya.. I tried to grep for it... |
| 02:58.00 | Kaelten | Interface\Buttons\UI-Quickslot2 |
| 02:58.00 | Kaelten | woot |
| 02:58.11 | Kaelten | figures i'd find it on onebag's thread |
| 02:59.12 | ulic | hehe |
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| 03:03.02 | Groktar | 1853hps on twins on my priest |
| 03:03.03 | Groktar | raar |
| 03:03.13 | Groktar | shaman beat me by 35k |
| 03:03.14 | Groktar | :( |
| 03:03.37 | Kaelten | bah thats the default border that bagslots use anyway |
| 03:06.39 | orionshock | anyone got tom tom working in northrind? |
| 03:07.26 | Kaelten | I know clads been working on it |
| 03:07.30 | Kaelten | no idea if its worked |
| 03:08.13 | seracht | Have any of you used buttonbin before |
| 03:08.22 | seracht | I have way too many buttons around my Minimap I need to remove |
| 03:08.24 | Ellipsis | I hacked my local copy of tomtom to at least work |
| 03:08.34 | Ellipsis | and ffs orionshock, it's northREND |
| 03:08.41 | orionshock | :P |
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| 03:10.08 | Megalon | nordrind and northrend, don't mix 'em up! |
| 03:14.42 | Zyndrome | nerthrond |
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| 03:17.25 | Zhinjio | So please welcome Madeline Gale into the world this evening, 6:20pm MST. Mom and baby are doing great, recovering. |
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| 03:17.52 | ulic | Zhinjio: grats man! |
| 03:18.32 | Zyndrome | Dad is knocked out due to liqour. |
| 03:18.39 | Megalon | haha |
| 03:18.46 | Ellipsis | congrats Zhinjio! |
| 03:19.04 | Ellipsis | hugs Zhinjio |
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| 03:19.44 | Zhinjio | thanks so much. |
| 03:20.11 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 03:20.16 | Zhinjio | good stuff. |
| 03:20.30 | Ackis | aahh Zhinjio you're talking in here lol :P |
| 03:21.09 | Ackis | BABY Zhinjio ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 03:21.40 | Zhinjio | smiles. |
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| 03:22.11 | Ackis | smokes a cigar for Madeline! |
| 03:22.50 | njal | geh |
| 03:23.06 | njal | how can I determine if the player has windfury on his weapon? |
| 03:23.18 | njal | (as in the player being me) |
| 03:23.24 | Ackis | try /tell player do you have windfury on your weapon? |
| 03:24.05 | njal | kinda doing it from lua -- and all buffs seems detectable (and that the person has a weaponbuff, but not the name of the weaponbuff) |
| 03:26.31 | njal | just doesnt seem possible :S |
| 03:27.03 | Tinyboom | Congratulations Zhinjio ;) |
| 03:27.43 | seracht | is cyCircled for Bartender? |
| 03:28.09 | Xelo | njal, need to be able to inspect |
| 03:29.02 | njal | Xelo: I'm trying to find out the name of the current weapon enchant _on my own character_ from lua, and it doesnt seem possible, or I'm not looking at the right places |
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| 03:30.44 | CIA-46 | 03ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80748 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (5 files in 4 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Added aggro border module |
| 03:30.44 | CIA-46 | 03ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80749 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options/ (ag_ModuleOptions.lua locales/ag_Options-enUS.lua): ag_UnitFrames: Added options for aggro border module |
| 03:30.46 | seracht | http://img26.picoodle.com/data/img26/3/8/20/f_WoWScrnShotm_bef4681.jpg anyone know how they got the buttons to look like the that? |
| 03:34.03 | Ellipsis | looks like old VolM |
| 03:34.48 | seracht | ya :P |
| 03:34.50 | seracht | I just realized lol |
| 03:34.51 | seracht | thanks |
| 03:36.22 | Zhinjio | damnit, I can't figure out the international dialing to vienna |
| 03:36.28 | Xelo | njal, think it's GetWeaponEnchantInfo() |
| 03:36.37 | Xelo | but I don't have any sharpening stones on my to test with |
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| 03:37.00 | seracht | hey Ellipsis what do you do about all the buttons around your minimap |
| 03:37.05 | njal | Xelo that only returns like "mhHasEnchant, mhTimeLeft, mhCharges"... etc |
| 03:37.09 | seracht | is there someway to get...rid of them or put them in another button |
| 03:37.17 | njal | and not any way of determining the _name_ of the enchant |
| 03:40.27 | Ellipsis | seracht: I don't have any buttons around my minimap |
| 03:40.55 | Xelo | njal, looks like it's only tooltip parsing then |
| 03:41.09 | Ellipsis | I don't use addons that create minimap icons, and I hide all the default blizz buttons |
| 03:41.12 | Xelo | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=101150523&pageNo=17#331 Best info I could find on it |
| 03:43.29 | njal | heh |
| 03:43.40 | njal | next step for me then is to figure out how I get the actual tooltip text |
| 03:44.01 | Woodish | njal |
| 03:44.07 | Woodish | what r u working on? |
| 03:45.22 | njal | lets call it a crutch for shamans that cant remember to keep windfury up. so I need to determine if the player has the windfury buff/enchant or not |
| 03:45.43 | ulic | there are mods that do that already njal |
| 03:45.58 | ulic | if you don't like them I'm sure you could look at them to see how they check it. |
| 03:46.22 | njal | do you remember any names for some of those, or should I just google? |
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| 03:48.03 | Zhinjio | alright. heading back to the hospital. Y'all be good. |
| 03:48.07 | Zhinjio | waves |
| 03:52.21 | ulic | njal: not off the top of my head, just look at shaman addons on curse or wowace |
| 03:56.44 | Woodish | Ellipsis http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot082108055444xr7.jpg |
| 03:56.45 | Woodish | my UI now |
| 03:57.01 | ulic | njal: I know elk buff bars displays em with the names |
| 03:57.21 | ulic | that's not a weapon buff specific addon though |
| 03:57.34 | njal | seems like tooltip parsing |
| 03:58.16 | CIA-46 | 03cryect 072.4 * r80750 10Recount2/ (8 files in 6 dirs): |
| 03:58.16 | CIA-46 | Recount2: |
| 03:58.16 | CIA-46 | -View Config now has a source/target tab that loads up data from the filter |
| 03:58.16 | CIA-46 | -Adds the ability to work easily with lists for Checkboxes |
| 03:58.16 | CIA-46 | -Setups the beginning of the translation file |
| 03:58.17 | CIA-46 | -Minor Optimization to UpdateAttrTable for GUID Tracking |
| 03:58.46 | seracht | Ellipsis huh? like you don't use prat or clearfont or anything? |
| 03:58.49 | seracht | those create minimap icons |
| 03:59.14 | Woodish | you can disable them |
| 03:59.18 | Woodish | and put on fubar |
| 03:59.37 | CIA-46 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80751 10Prat/modules/ChannelNames.lua: |
| 03:59.37 | CIA-46 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 03:59.37 | CIA-46 | Fix nil error. |
| 03:59.44 | Woodish | seracht look at my screenshot, I only got one and I dont know how to get rid of the LFG indicator |
| 03:59.45 | Ellipsis | seracht: god no |
| 04:00.01 | Ellipsis | my chat code is all custom written and my fonts are file replaced |
| 04:00.16 | Groktar | imo, it should take longer to fly from the dk starting area to blasted lands |
| 04:00.29 | JerleMinara | yeah 10 minutes isn't near long enough |
| 04:00.38 | JerleMinara | i'm thinking 30-45 minutes minimum |
| 04:01.47 | Woodish | Ellipsis |
| 04:01.53 | Woodish | you dont use RBM do you? |
| 04:02.00 | Ellipsis | no, what is it? |
| 04:02.16 | Woodish | create bars, to track stuff |
| 04:02.20 | Ellipsis | shrugs |
| 04:02.24 | Woodish | like diminishing returns |
| 04:02.27 | Ellipsis | everything I do can be handled with EBBs |
| 04:02.33 | Woodish | cooldowns on nearby enemy players |
| 04:02.33 | Woodish | Yes |
| 04:02.33 | Ellipsis | I don't pvp so DRs don't matter |
| 04:02.56 | Woodish | I taught so :) |
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| 04:03.54 | Wraithan | MoveAnything still viable or is there a newer/better/whatever version of it? |
| 04:05.45 | orionshock | sylvanaar: have you checked prat3's compatiblity with thinks like tekKompare? |
| 04:06.03 | sylvanaar | orionshock no, it will be the same as prat2's id suspect |
| 04:06.38 | orionshock | humm... we'll they arn't playing nicely :\ |
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| 04:07.19 | sylvanaar | what does it do? |
| 04:08.09 | orionshock | well tekKompare has a chat frame mouse over popup for the tooltip of the item/quest ect link. and it's not poping up :\ |
| 04:08.13 | Ellipsis | shows tooltips while mousing over item links |
| 04:09.00 | sylvanaar | oh, not surprising |
| 04:09.41 | sylvanaar | have a link, i can look |
| 04:10.04 | orionshock | of? the addon |
| 04:10.07 | sylvanaar | yeah |
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| 04:10.22 | Wraithan | Ok, anyone know of an addon that works that allows one to move the tool tip and where the bliz messages that appear in red in the middle of the screen? |
| 04:10.26 | orionshock | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6837-tekKompare.html |
| 04:10.42 | seracht | hmm I still can't find anything to do this :( |
| 04:10.50 | Ackis | ant statblocks users? |
| 04:11.20 | Ackis | s/ant/any/ |
| 04:11.49 | CIA-46 | 03StingerSoft * r80752 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster.lua: RatingBuster: fix ruRU |
| 04:22.13 | sylvanaar | orionshock nothing jumps out at me. prat securehooks onhyperlinkshow, thats all i can think of. What modules are you using? |
| 04:22.59 | orionshock | there's alot of them... |
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| 04:23.44 | orionshock | usual stuff |
| 04:23.52 | orionshock | defaults mostly |
| 04:25.52 | Wraithan | Is there a way to move the 'You are too far away!' frame? |
| 04:26.02 | Wraithan | I can't find the frame name for it |
| 04:26.14 | Ellipsis | IIRC it's UIErrorsFrame |
| 04:26.20 | sylvanaar | works for me (tm) |
| 04:26.23 | Ellipsis | you can redirect those messages with ErrorMonster |
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| 04:27.22 | sylvanaar | orionshock perhaps its something else? i see tooltips fine |
| 04:27.47 | sylvanaar | orionshock item tooltips at least |
| 04:28.05 | Wraithan | Ah nice |
| 04:28.19 | orionshock | odd |
| 04:28.54 | sylvanaar | it does generate an error on beta though |
| 04:29.16 | Wraithan | is there a frame list somewhere? |
| 04:29.58 | orionshock | nope |
| 04:30.31 | sylvanaar | where he calls SetHyperlink, the blizzard feedback ui complains if it isnt an itemlink |
| 04:30.50 | Wraithan | Anyone happen to know the name of the frame that displays the zone info? |
| 04:30.52 | Wraithan | er |
| 04:30.54 | Wraithan | zone name |
| 04:31.24 | orionshock | well w/o prat loaded it's not working :\ |
| 04:32.17 | Ellipsis | then I guess it's not prat's fault |
| 04:34.01 | orionshock | indeed |
| 04:34.20 | sylvanaar | its given me a good idea for a fun feature though |
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| 04:36.30 | mjc | is there an ally pve beta guild? :P |
| 04:37.54 | Zyndrome | doubt there's much PvP guilds, at least on EU, as its Blueshield Country |
| 04:38.51 | Ellipsis | mjc: yeah, secure templars |
| 04:39.05 | mjc | ally or horde :P |
| 04:39.08 | Ellipsis | ally |
| 04:39.14 | Wraithan | Anyone know the name of the tooltip fram |
| 04:39.20 | Ellipsis | GameTooltip |
| 04:39.22 | Wraithan | it wont give it to me using the mouse over |
| 04:39.23 | Wraithan | ah |
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| 04:42.31 | steev | fail pug is fail |
| 04:42.59 | steev | kill order: skull, x, diamond, triangle, moon |
| 04:43.07 | steev | about 10 pulls later |
| 04:43.16 | steev | i noticed... only 3 people are attacking skull |
| 04:43.28 | steev | im like, wtf are yall doing? |
| 04:43.34 | Xelo | skull > x should be fucking universal |
| 04:43.39 | steev | everyone else: triangle first right? |
| 04:43.45 | steev | indeed |
| 04:45.21 | CIA-46 | 03mukha521 * r80753 10VanasKoS/ (16 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:45.21 | CIA-46 | VanasKoS: |
| 04:45.21 | CIA-46 | - ruRU locale implemented to all modules. |
| 04:45.21 | CIA-46 | - DataGatherer: Log Range options removed (commented out) as there are no such CVars available past 2.4 |
| 04:52.14 | NeoTron | feels his guild dying over M'uru. |
| 04:54.50 | Zyndrome | OH YOURS TOO? |
| 04:55.10 | Zyndrome | every Sunwell-raid feels like we're progressing towards a brick wall that says "Bang head here" |
| 04:56.19 | NeoTron | we had like 35ppl online yesterday |
| 04:56.29 | NeoTron | today 10m after raid start we had 25 |
| 04:56.34 | NeoTron | and not a makeup that can kill muru |
| 04:57.04 | NeoTron | we never had issues on progression nights before |
| 04:57.09 | NeoTron | if anything we had issues on farm nights |
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| 04:59.04 | Zyndrome | we're getting used to seeing <Randomname> has come online, <Randomname>: hi guys , <Randomname> has left the guild. |
| 04:59.33 | Zyndrome | last night we had to bring in an alt pally tank for Felmyst >_> |
| 05:00.02 | Zyndrome | our main pallytank is on 2 week vacation, and our second one just spontanously left the guild |
| 05:00.39 | Zyndrome | at first they suggested that just the two of us holy pallys would tank the skeletons .. "you're fukken joking right?" |
| 05:03.39 | NeoTron | we have similar issues |
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| 05:11.19 | CIA-46 | 03Jmbtsang * r80754 10FocusInterruptSounds/Core.lua: |
| 05:11.19 | CIA-46 | FocusInterruptSounds: |
| 05:11.19 | CIA-46 | - Extended the innervate warning for RoS and Twins |
| 05:12.24 | Zyndrome | but they can almost consider them another player short, cause I'm about to snap |
| 05:13.18 | CIA-46 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80755 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua: |
| 05:13.18 | CIA-46 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 05:13.19 | CIA-46 | As a fix for people in guilds with >500 members, if someone speaks in guild |
| 05:13.19 | CIA-46 | chat, and a 2nd query of the guild info yields nothing. Issue a who for the |
| 05:13.19 | CIA-46 | name of the player's guild. (This at least lets me see colored names on beta) |
| 05:13.32 | steev | DO IT! |
| 05:15.41 | CIA-46 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r50a04e2 10/ TourGuide_Horde/60_61_Hellfire_Peninsula.lua : That should mostly finish up Horde Hellfire - http://is.gd/1MXC |
| 05:16.55 | Zyndrome | or just snap completely on vent |
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| 05:26.40 | CIA-46 | tourguide_recorder: 03Tekkub 07master * r7664e40 10/ (TourGuide_Recorder.lua TourGuide_Recorder.toc): And so it begins... - http://is.gd/1MY7 |
| 05:26.41 | CIA-46 | tourguide_recorder: 03Tekkub 07master * r53bf3f9 10/ TourGuide_Recorder.lua : Update to Astrolabe-0.4 - http://is.gd/1MY8 |
| 05:26.41 | CIA-46 | tourguide_recorder: 03Tekkub 07master * rc1bcd80 10/ TourGuide_Recorder.toc : Update TOC - http://is.gd/1MY9 |
| 05:26.44 | CIA-46 | tourguide_recorder: 03Tekkub 07master * rb20d05f 10/ TourGuide_Recorder.lua : Fix slash command - http://is.gd/1MYa |
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| 05:36.20 | CIA-46 | tourguide_recorder: 03Tekkub 07master * r27ffc8a 10/ TourGuide_Recorder.lua : We don't use that variable... - http://is.gd/1MYr |
| 05:36.20 | CIA-46 | tourguide_recorder: 03Tekkub 07master * r30f6c97 10/ TourGuide_Recorder.toc : Require TomTom - http://is.gd/1MYs |
| 05:36.21 | CIA-46 | tourguide_recorder: 03Tekkub 07master * r035545b 10/ TourGuide_Recorder.toc : TOC metadata - http://is.gd/1MYt |
| 05:36.21 | JerleMinara | ooh.. Automated tourguide builder? |
| 05:36.22 | CIA-46 | tourguide_recorder: 03Tekkub 07master * r1a734e8 10/ README.textile : Add readme - http://is.gd/1MYu |
| 05:38.36 | CIA-46 | tourguide_recorder: 03Tekkub 07master * rcb40a3f 10/ changelog.txt : It's CHANGELOG, CHANGELOG, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood! - http://is.gd/1MYy |
| 05:38.48 | steev | whats the name of that team syeren was talking about the other day? JAC |
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| 05:40.55 | CIA-46 | tourguide_recorder: 03Tekkub 07master * r6e28d79 10/ changelog.txt : Update changelog for 3.0.1.3-Beta - http://is.gd/1MYG |
| 05:40.55 | CIA-46 | tourguide_recorder: 03Tekkub 07master * rbb265e7 10/ (README.textile TourGuide_Recorder.toc): Weekly build 3.0.1.3-Beta - http://is.gd/1MYH |
| 05:40.57 | CIA-46 | tourguide_recorder: 03Tekkub 07master * rdf26806 10/ : Merge commit '3.0.1.3-Beta' - http://is.gd/1MYI |
| 05:44.36 | CIA-46 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r3054f0b 10/ README.textile : Link to new recorder addon - http://is.gd/1MYP |
| 05:56.49 | CIA-46 | 03daviesh * r80756 10AtlasLoot/Core/HooksandAPI.lua: |
| 05:56.49 | CIA-46 | AtlasLoot: |
| 05:56.49 | CIA-46 | - Minor tweak that MIGHT fix an Atlas bug people are reporting, but as none of the dev team or Atlas or AtlasLoot can replicate the bug and get more information, I am shooting in the dark. |
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| 06:00.09 | orionshock | TourGuide_Recorder? |
| 06:00.12 | orionshock | interesting |
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| 06:01.26 | CIA-46 | 03neotron * r80757 10ButtonBin/ButtonBin.lua: |
| 06:01.26 | CIA-46 | ButtonBin: |
| 06:01.26 | CIA-46 | - Added option to set the pixel width of the bin. |
| 06:01.26 | CIA-46 | - Added toggle to decide whether or not to clamp a bin to the screen. |
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| 06:14.03 | orionshock | gfg, when are they gona nerf locks? |
| 06:15.49 | CIA-46 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80758 10Prat/modules/ (Alias.lua PlayerNames.lua): |
| 06:15.49 | CIA-46 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 06:15.49 | CIA-46 | Remove extra debug output and text |
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| 06:20.52 | JerleMinara | LOD is still broken right? |
| 06:21.13 | nevcairiel | LoD isnt broken |
| 06:28.33 | Arrowmaster | there a new patch? |
| 06:28.47 | nevcairiel | not yet |
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| 06:51.40 | CIA-46 | 037destiny * r80759 10LittleWigs/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:51.40 | CIA-46 | LittleWigs: TempestKeep: |
| 06:51.40 | CIA-46 | - Freywinn: fix Tranq spellID |
| 06:51.40 | CIA-46 | - added Sarannis & Splinter |
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| 07:00.15 | winkiller | wow, a little late :P |
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| 07:01.25 | bfeldman | any bigwigs people around? |
| 07:03.18 | JerleMinara | are you sure LOD works nev? i tocbumped all my libs and they're still showing red |
| 07:03.28 | JerleMinara | and don't seem to be loading |
| 07:03.35 | nevcairiel | works for me |
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| 07:07.22 | nevcairiel | at least it used to when i initially tried it, wasnt in this build |
| 07:07.29 | JerleMinara | oh, it's not working in 8788? |
| 07:07.37 | JerleMinara | actually wait no most of my libs are loading |
| 07:07.59 | JerleMinara | just not LibKeyBound and a few others.. LibStub's saying there's no library instance of LKB, yet it's been tocbumped and should be oading same as everything else |
| 07:08.24 | JerleMinara | any suggestions? |
| 07:08.46 | JerleMinara | and sonnuva.. there it goes. whatever. not even going to ponder why. |
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| 07:11.00 | CIA-46 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3-WotLK * r80760 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Extras/ (incomingheals/incoming.lua quickhealth/quickhealth.lua): ag_Extras: QuickHealth module stops loading if QuickHealth wasn't found |
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| 07:15.28 | orionshock | found the new "where is Mankrik's Wife" quest... it was "Where is the assassin" in hellfire and now... in Northrend it's "Where are the sinkholes?" |
| 07:15.33 | p3lim | happy bday to me *munches muffin* |
| 07:16.10 | nevcairiel | orionshock: its so easy to find them :( |
| 07:16.47 | nevcairiel | there is another one in howling fjord though |
| 07:16.52 | orionshock | i know, but atleast 4 ppl have asked in /1 in the last 3 mins |
| 07:17.05 | nevcairiel | dont remember the quest name |
| 07:17.14 | nevcairiel | but you have to find some guy in a house in the ghost world |
| 07:17.26 | nevcairiel | thats like in the channel every 5 minutes |
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| 07:28.10 | orionshock | ok so how do u get to dalran? |
| 07:29.14 | nevcairiel | level to 74 |
| 07:29.17 | nevcairiel | talk to innkeeper |
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| 07:29.42 | nevcairiel | voila ports you there :) |
| 07:30.33 | orionshock | your bad a BS nevcairiel |
| 07:30.43 | nevcairiel | wat? |
| 07:30.50 | nevcairiel | its true |
| 07:31.12 | orionshock | oh well.. cool |
| 07:31.17 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:31.57 | nevcairiel | the teleportation crystal only works if you've been in the city once before |
| 07:32.02 | nevcairiel | and used the crystal from the top |
| 07:32.04 | orionshock | oh? |
| 07:32.42 | nevcairiel | feel free to ride to crystalsong forest and test the crystal :P |
| 07:32.50 | orionshock | im going to if only for kicks |
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| 07:34.44 | nevcairiel | noone is going to Dalaran until you yourself hit 74 or the first mage/warlock does |
| 07:34.56 | Steven__ | hi :) |
| 07:35.30 | Steven__ | anyone any good with addons? |
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| 07:35.58 | nevcairiel | ~asktoask |
| 07:35.59 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 07:36.23 | Fisker- | nevcairiel YOU |
| 07:36.28 | nevcairiel | throws a playstation at Fisker- |
| 07:36.30 | Steven__ | i cant seem to get prat 2.0 to work for some reason :/ |
| 07:36.47 | Ellipsis | om nom nom pocky nom nom |
| 07:36.51 | Fisker- | because of you i'm no longer an agent of this system nevcairiel ;_; |
| 07:37.00 | nevcairiel | I WON! |
| 07:37.13 | Ellipsis | I don't know what you're talking about but grats nevcairiel |
| 07:37.28 | nevcairiel | I have no idea either, but its making Fisker- sad, so its good |
| 07:37.32 | Ellipsis | also http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/col/786985559.html |
| 07:37.53 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 07:38.57 | Fisker- | sad? |
| 07:39.00 | Fisker- | I R ANGRY |
| 07:39.02 | Steven__ | anyone? |
| 07:39.21 | winkiller | Ellipsis: where does this om nom nom come from |
| 07:39.29 | winkiller | first meme I somehow.. overlooked |
| 07:39.56 | Fisker- | 4chan obviously |
| 07:40.03 | Fisker- | everything comes from 4chan |
| 07:40.19 | Ellipsis | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=om%20nom |
| 07:40.44 | eps | haha |
| 07:40.50 | Fisker- | but then other people ruin it |
| 07:40.55 | Fisker- | like can has cheezburger |
| 07:40.59 | eps | MY LOVE FOR 4CHAN |
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| 07:41.14 | eps | GUYS GUYS LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY 4CHAN |
| 07:42.06 | Ellipsis | hi eps |
| 07:42.11 | Ellipsis | i herd u liek 4chanz? |
| 07:42.16 | eps | hi Ellipsis :) |
| 07:42.22 | eps | moar cp? |
| 07:42.35 | Fisker- | do want cp |
| 07:43.27 | Zyndrome | claps his chest while trying to bite his ear |
| 07:43.29 | Zyndrome | I'm CP |
| 07:43.33 | Zyndrome | .. |
| 07:43.43 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 07:43.46 | Ellipsis | and I'm scared |
| 07:43.58 | eps | Also I don't like 4chan, furthermore, |
| 07:44.11 | eps | or at least I'm indifferent |
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| 07:44.28 | Fisker- | 4chan's grown to big |
| 07:44.30 | Zyndrome | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebral_palsy |
| 07:44.31 | Fisker- | too* |
| 07:44.49 | Zyndrome | 4chan - hackers on steroids |
| 07:44.52 | Ellipsis | kind of like Fisker- |
| 07:44.52 | eps | my revisionalist historical recollection |
| 07:44.58 | Fisker- | no u Ellipsis |
| 07:45.41 | eps | hackers? more like retards on the meds from their parents cupboard |
| 07:45.44 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: so ButtonBin or Fortress for a FuBar'ish display, whats the difference? =P |
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| 07:54.39 | Fisker- | buttonbin is better nevcairiel |
| 07:54.56 | Fisker- | though i'd like it to use fubar options for whether or not to show text/labels |
| 07:55.23 | Fisker- | i guess you could say that buttonbin is what it says it is |
| 07:55.34 | Fisker- | and fortress has proper datadisplay :P |
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| 07:56.19 | Fisker- | which is annoying because the LDB idea is good |
| 07:56.34 | Fisker- | But you have 1 addon for displaying the buttons and another one for displaying the data |
| 07:57.00 | Fisker- | of course that's only because of fubar, but most mods are using fubar anyways ;_; |
| 07:57.12 | Fisker- | in short NeoTron made me emo inside |
| 07:59.28 | nevcairiel | from the screenshots it looks like ButtonBin displays the data properly too |
| 08:02.03 | Fisker- | dunno then he's changed something lately |
| 08:03.42 | Fisker- | ah |
| 08:03.45 | Fisker- | it does show it |
| 08:04.02 | Fisker- | it's just that it also shows all the "Insert addon label here" which i don't need |
| 08:04.13 | nevcairiel | i bet you can disable that |
| 08:04.13 | Fisker- | which also blocks out the data because it fills a lot :D |
| 08:04.38 | Fisker- | Well the fubar ones can't be disabled atleast |
| 08:04.50 | Fisker- | it ignores the options in the fubar plugins |
| 08:04.57 | Fisker- | and i can't find a method in the options |
| 08:24.11 | CIA-46 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80761 10Prat/modules/ (4 files): |
| 08:24.11 | CIA-46 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 08:24.11 | CIA-46 | Channel nicknames can be prefixed with # to make "[1. Gen]" type links, and |
| 08:24.11 | CIA-46 | without # to make "[Gen]" type links. Bugfix to who'ing for guild>500ppl. |
| 08:24.11 | CIA-46 | Make the copychat text editable on the frame. |
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| 08:30.36 | CIA-46 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80762 10Prat/modules/ChannelNames.lua: |
| 08:30.36 | CIA-46 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 08:30.36 | CIA-46 | Change the precidence of channel nicks and channel replacements. Channel |
| 08:30.36 | CIA-46 | nicks will be used if they are specified, if there isnt one, then the |
| 08:30.36 | CIA-46 | channel replacement will be used. |
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| 09:09.15 | orionshock | anyone know of a netural repair guy in asuremyst island |
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| 09:14.46 | Zhinjio | Buh. |
| 09:14.57 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
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| 09:29.30 | Trell_ | morning |
| 09:31.54 | cncfanatics | anyone can help me with castyeller ? can't get it to work :( |
| 09:35.11 | Adirelle|work | cncfanatics: what's not working ? |
| 09:36.09 | cncfanatics | Adirelle|work: its not announcing anything |
| 09:36.19 | cncfanatics | I've setup what spells it should announce, but it never does |
| 09:36.38 | Adirelle|work | which class/client ? |
| 09:36.43 | Adirelle|work | locale, I meant |
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| 09:37.07 | cncfanatics | enGB |
| 09:37.08 | cncfanatics | druid |
| 09:37.19 | Adirelle|work | testing them in combat ? |
| 09:37.36 | cncfanatics | atm I'm fishing |
| 09:37.39 | cncfanatics | but it didn't work last ZA |
| 09:37.51 | cncfanatics | mostly tested with rebirth :p |
| 09:39.11 | Adirelle|work | wait |
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| 09:39.35 | Adirelle|work | rebirth is only announced in combat... |
| 09:39.58 | cncfanatics | I'm pretty sure it was in combat |
| 09:40.03 | cncfanatics | was at 20% during the akil'zon fight |
| 09:40.08 | cncfanatics | no way I was out of combat |
| 09:40.10 | Adirelle|work | a basic test : create a custom announce on your heartstone |
| 09:40.42 | cncfanatics | oki, I'll party invite a guildy and test |
| 09:40.45 | Adirelle|work | with no restriction, using either emote or custom channel (I personnaly set it up to "cytest") |
| 09:41.14 | cncfanatics | will it announce when i start casting or finish casting btw ? |
| 09:41.21 | cncfanatics | cast starts, ah there |
| 09:41.27 | Adirelle|work | at start or failure |
| 09:41.41 | Adirelle|work | it worked ? |
| 09:42.10 | cncfanatics | sec |
| 09:42.55 | cncfanatics | its not announcing |
| 09:43.18 | cncfanatics | added Hearthstone to announce, no restrictions |
| 09:43.48 | cncfanatics | :o, only in instances was active |
| 09:43.49 | cncfanatics | retrying |
| 09:43.58 | cncfanatics | working now |
| 09:44.13 | cncfanatics | also |
| 09:44.17 | cncfanatics | until I added Hearthstone |
| 09:44.30 | cncfanatics | all the destination channels in the announces tab were not there |
| 09:44.50 | cncfanatics | same for events to announce |
| 09:45.22 | cncfanatics | seems to work correctly now ) |
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| 09:49.01 | cncfanatics | tnx Adirelle |
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| 09:52.32 | Fisker- | NeoTron i got you now |
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| 09:54.31 | Pkekyo| | http://www.jewtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=19aad2fa1b32f36ed4ae |
| 09:54.31 | Pkekyo| | anyone know the name of this song? |
| 09:55.39 | Trell_ | jewtube >_< |
| 09:55.55 | Pkekyo| | propagandatube ftw ;) |
| 09:56.48 | Elkano | hmm... sounds familiar, but can't tell the name, sorry |
| 09:56.59 | Trell_ | yeah I know it too |
| 09:57.08 | Trell_ | its a 'remix' of a classic |
| 09:57.16 | Pkekyo| | what's the name of the classic then? |
| 09:57.18 | Trell_ | oh Elkano; just the person |
| 09:57.24 | Trell_ | Pkekyo|; I don't know :'( |
| 09:57.31 | Trell_ | your buff bars on life, tracking doesn't work |
| 09:57.39 | Trell_ | s/life/beta/ |
| 09:57.52 | Pkekyo| | girl I know've been looking for the song for more than a year now...she spells it out phonetically to me on msn just about every week and asks me to look for it :p |
| 09:58.22 | Pkekyo| | "dada dudi di dada, dada dudi di dada, dada dudidudi dudidudi du da dadi daaa" :P |
| 09:58.49 | Elkano | trell, you mean forgetting what was selected after login? |
| 09:59.07 | Trell_ | no; at the top of the buff bars, you have 'click to select tracking type' right? |
| 09:59.09 | Wobin | is it the chicken dance? |
| 09:59.22 | Pkekyo| | Wobin: no, slower pace |
| 09:59.30 | Pkekyo| | check the link a bit up ;> |
| 09:59.44 | Elkano | yeah, was working fine for me last time I checked |
| 10:00.03 | Trell_ | I click to select one, and it doesn't select, nor does it stay selected |
| 10:00.11 | Pkekyo| | on a more serious note though: BUMSECKS |
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| 10:00.37 | Elkano | maybe a blizzard bug? it's their menu and code iirc |
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| 10:00.55 | Wobin | blah |
| 10:00.57 | Wobin | It's popcorn |
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| 10:01.10 | Nargiddley | bah beat me to it |
| 10:01.21 | Nargiddley | had to find the thing in my playlist to double check heh |
| 10:01.21 | Wobin | Hehe, and I only dc'd three times to get it out =P |
| 10:01.34 | Nargiddley | that and that site was being slooooow |
| 10:01.56 | Pkekyo| | Nargiddley: full title? |
| 10:02.06 | Wobin | Popcorn is pretty much it |
| 10:02.15 | Wobin | it was an eighties electropop song |
| 10:02.23 | Pkekyo| | I can hardly just youtube "popcorn" now, can I? :P |
| 10:02.23 | Trell_ | actually, Elkano; it's working now, which is weird |
| 10:02.27 | Pkekyo| | or maybe I can, let's try it |
| 10:02.38 | Wobin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popcorn_(song) |
| 10:02.54 | harl | why's there a difference between the actual melee range starting at 5 meters and Omen's pull aggro melee range starting at 6 meters? |
| 10:02.58 | Trell_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZT4owFcD4M |
| 10:03.03 | Trell_ | there you go Pkekyo| |
| 10:03.09 | Trell_ | do a search for 'popcorn song' |
| 10:03.12 | Trell_ | easy peasy. |
| 10:03.32 | Fisker- | Wobin my friend |
| 10:03.57 | Pkekyo| | jesus titty fucking christ...they made a crazy frog thing out of it |
| 10:03.57 | Wobin | rofl http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2007/03/79_versions_of_.html |
| 10:04.04 | Wobin | Want more POPCORN |
| 10:04.09 | Wobin | 79 versions of it |
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| 10:04.44 | Pkekyo| | lol |
| 10:04.49 | Pkekyo| | gotta catch'em all |
| 10:05.04 | harl | yesh |
| 10:05.14 | Pkekyo| | just like STDs and Pokémons! |
| 10:05.27 | harl | no, not those ones |
| 10:05.42 | Pkekyo| | yes; CATCH THEM ALL |
| 10:05.49 | harl | noooo! |
| 10:06.08 | Pkekyo| | JEEEEEEEEEEEES |
| 10:06.19 | harl | gee... STDs suck |
| 10:06.31 | harl | so do pokemons |
| 10:06.36 | Pkekyo| | lies, dey r tasteh |
| 10:06.39 | harl | just in another way |
| 10:06.52 | Nargiddley | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjfsAJ5bMhk is the same version as on the video I'm pretty sure |
| 10:06.53 | harl | lol |
| 10:06.55 | Fisker- | just like children Pkekyo|! |
| 10:06.55 | Wobin | now I'll be whistling that song forEVER |
| 10:06.55 | Pkekyo| | you maded pikachu suck your penor? o.O' |
| 10:07.02 | Fisker- | </highly inappropiate> |
| 10:07.20 | harl | oh don't make ME puke.. |
| 10:07.23 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 10:07.30 | Pkekyo| | whyes nuts? |
| 10:07.59 | harl | lol |
| 10:08.01 | Pkekyo| | that popporn song is stuck in my head |
| 10:08.04 | Pkekyo| | popcorn* |
| 10:09.14 | Wobin | popporn? =P |
| 10:09.28 | Pkekyo| | Wobin: no, shush |
| 10:10.05 | Fisker- | pops Wobin's corn |
| 10:10.22 | Fisker- | i has butter rawrs |
| 10:10.25 | Pkekyo| | o.O' |
| 10:10.29 | Pkekyo| | PEVRERT |
| 10:10.53 | Fisker- | you said that with the popcorn but not with the children? |
| 10:10.57 | Fisker- | I don't know who's more sick here |
| 10:11.03 | Fisker- | :D |
| 10:11.13 | Pkekyo| | I just figured the children-stuff was self-explanatory |
| 10:12.20 | Fisker- | right! |
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| 10:17.12 | Fisker- | because PvE gear is specialized gear. For DPS classes as an example it is designed to do the most damage as possible in the shortest time as possible and it does not have a lot of survivability. |
| 10:17.12 | Fisker- | Oh |
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| 10:17.19 | Fisker- | i thought pve gear was for sustained DPS not burst dps |
| 10:17.31 | Fisker- | good thing our game developers know better |
| 10:17.42 | Fisker- | (designers) |
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| 10:20.59 | CIA-46 | 03Swix * r80763 10DeuceCommander/ (DeuceCommander.lua DeuceCommander.toc): |
| 10:20.59 | CIA-46 | DeuceCommander: |
| 10:20.59 | CIA-46 | -add ruRU localization (credit by Ynitron) |
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| 10:24.19 | Pkekyo| | indeed Fisker- |
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| 10:26.30 | Pkekyo| | current LA time? |
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| 10:46.04 | CIA-46 | 037destiny * r80764 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Splinter.lua: LittleWigs: koKR Update |
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| 10:49.41 | Trell_ | right, who was called Ioladin on the beta, im sure someone in here posted a pic/video of themselves |
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| 10:54.06 | Pkekyo| | Trell_: howso? |
| 10:54.38 | Trell_ | just because they raped me in about 2 shots :( |
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| 10:56.51 | Pkekyo| | wait, what? :p |
| 10:57.43 | Pkekyo| | you'd better call the cops then |
| 11:01.37 | Trell_ | I'm in the very process of doing so! |
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| 11:13.06 | dafire | so i guess the beta server runs better now since they use it on the games convention ? |
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| 11:29.19 | Matrix110| | if somebody needs the wotlk intro |
| 11:29.20 | Matrix110| | http://dump.no/files/ec64b33bbf3b/WoW-WotLK_Intro_ENGB.avi-downloader.torrent |
| 11:29.32 | Matrix110| | extracted from Blizz DLer |
| 11:29.43 | Xelo | Nice |
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| 11:30.14 | Tattva | Greetings |
| 11:30.21 | Tattva | maybe anyone can help me |
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| 11:30.39 | Tattva | Will the MobHealth 4 Library work stand alone with Pitbull? |
| 11:31.02 | Xelo | should |
| 11:31.21 | Tattva | ok. thank you very much^^ |
| 11:31.23 | Xelo | anyone else having connection problems? |
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| 11:33.01 | Groktar | prat needs more branches |
| 11:33.13 | Groktar | do i want wotlk or wotlk-3.0 |
| 11:33.31 | Matrix110| | You want Chatter |
| 11:33.33 | Matrix110| | wotlk branch:P |
| 11:33.41 | Groktar | lol |
| 11:33.43 | Groktar | is that yours? |
| 11:33.49 | Matrix110| | No |
| 11:33.51 | Matrix110| | Antiarcs |
| 11:34.06 | Groktar | chatter it is |
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| 11:34.42 | Matrix110| | Its essentially Prat but more efficent :P |
| 11:34.46 | Groktar | ahh |
| 11:34.50 | Matrix110| | And some more features even |
| 11:35.18 | foxlit | Is efficiency still measured in aces per kiloton? :) |
| 11:35.20 | Groktar | lol svn checkout taking forever |
| 11:35.39 | dafire | how can be even more bloat then prad be more efficient ? |
| 11:35.41 | Matrix110| | foxlit fps wise :P |
| 11:36.03 | foxlit | I don't see how |
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| 11:36.51 | Gibbonz|Work | ~seen Zeksie |
| 11:36.53 | purl | zeksie <n=zeksie@cpc2-nott9-0-0-cust211.nott.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 8d 23h 13m 47s ago, saying: 'Anaral: yeh, there's an X-Perl for wrath. 3.0.0c, can get it from wowi, curse, etc.'. |
| 11:36.56 | Matrix110| | CPU profiling told me that 5% CPU Time went to Prat |
| 11:37.02 | Matrix110| | to chatter its 1-2% |
| 11:37.17 | Matrix110| | (That was 4 or 5 month ago) |
| 11:37.49 | foxlit | external libs and everything? |
| 11:37.57 | Matrix110| | disembedded ofc |
| 11:38.21 | Matrix110| | But the CPU time of the libs accounts to prat aswell |
| 11:38.22 | Matrix110| | Ive tested |
| 11:38.24 | Matrix110| | Prat only |
| 11:38.26 | Matrix110| | and Chatter only |
| 11:38.34 | Matrix110| | So sleaker libs matter aswell :P |
| 11:39.03 | dafire | testing external says nothing |
| 11:39.24 | Gibbonz|Work | shame he's not on atm.. would be nice if you could swap the side level numbers appear on xperl's frames |
| 11:39.41 | dafire | if an addon causes heavy load in libs that should count to the addon :9 |
| 11:40.11 | Matrix110| | If you test ONLY Prat and ONLY Chatter with disembedded libs it would matter to me when Ace2 uses 50% CPU Time or Ace3 using 2% CPU Time(thats just figure numbers I cant remember the actual numbers:P) |
| 11:41.14 | Gibbonz|Work | so I can put the targettarget frame more comfortably next to my minimap ;p |
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| 11:51.32 | Gibbonz|Work | Elkano: can ebb be set to not show the demo buff or otherwise hide itself when no buffs/debuffs are applied? if, not any chance of adding such an option? :) |
| 11:52.12 | Elkano | just exit config mode meaning hide the anchor |
| 11:52.28 | Elkano | alt+leftclick should do |
| 11:52.45 | Gibbonz|Work | ah right... new to ebb you see :) |
| 11:52.53 | Gibbonz|Work | nice mod :) |
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| 11:56.46 | Gibbonz|Work | previously ive only ever used the xperl playerbuffs but new rig, new ui, fancied a change |
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| 12:13.24 | CIA-46 | 03Copystring * r80765 10YurrCombatLog/ (. Core.lua): |
| 12:13.24 | CIA-46 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 12:13.24 | CIA-46 | - add missing AceDBOptions-3.0 to externals |
| 12:13.24 | CIA-46 | - small change for extra attacks |
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| 12:27.00 | Polarina | YAY! I got a beta key! |
| 12:27.02 | Obelixprime | yaya cinematic trailer |
| 12:27.26 | Josh_Borke | Polarina: try not to post it this time |
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| 12:33.36 | Polarina | Ok. |
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| 12:46.54 | dodga | Or at least upgrade your account and post it then :) |
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| 12:54.09 | Gibbonz|Work | hmm seems teknicolor doesnt like ct_core's chatframe timestamps |
| 12:54.41 | Funkeh` | post it this time? what happened? O.o |
| 12:56.24 | Gibbonz|Work | im getting a nil error at line 190 of teknicolor.lua, which is an end :p |
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| 13:02.42 | Gibbonz|Work | ~seen Tekkub |
| 13:02.43 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 15h 27m 36s ago, saying: 'Hjalte, ^'. |
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| 13:41.11 | Saryai | So... testing out my old hand of justice in the blasted lands, and I've come to the realization that I need a better combat log. -.- |
| 13:41.37 | Saryai | Anyone know of a way to do something like: |
| 13:42.30 | Saryai | [You] [Mortal Strike] [Servant of Allistar] 1480 |
| 13:42.41 | Saryai | Maybe? |
| 13:43.19 | Saryai | All I really want is [source][skill][target] damage (or *damage* if crit) |
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| 13:51.22 | Gibbonz|Work | isnt the new combat log configurable enough for that now? |
| 13:56.38 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 13:58.56 | Pneumatus | hmm, LibPeriodicTable-3.1-Reputation has some errors... |
| 14:03.38 | CIA-46 | 03StingerSoft * r80766 10Cartographer_Vendors/import.lua: |
| 14:03.38 | CIA-46 | Cartographer_Vendors |
| 14:03.38 | CIA-46 | - added import ruRU (Credit by SLA) |
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| 14:03.51 | Saryai | it's configurable enough... but getting it to display like that is impossible via the default interface. |
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| 14:04.09 | Saryai | I really should try something like simplecombatlog. |
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| 14:05.11 | Gibbonz|Work | i thought it had means to use tags to format it however you like |
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| 14:05.44 | Saryai | Yeah, adjusting those tags requires major mojo though |
| 14:05.52 | Gibbonz|Work | but fair enough :) |
| 14:06.01 | Saryai | And there's no way to reorganize information |
| 14:06.32 | Saryai | So you either parse and display with another addon (SCL) or find tags that work |
| 14:08.07 | Gibbonz|Work | hehe ok... hope you find a solution :) |
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| 14:11.34 | CIA-46 | 03StingerSoft * r80767 10Cartographer_QuestInfo/ (Cartographer_QuestInfo.toc Data/Name-ruRU.lua): |
| 14:11.34 | CIA-46 | Cartographer_QuestInfo: |
| 14:11.34 | CIA-46 | - added ruRU quest data |
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| 14:13.53 | CIA-46 | 03StingerSoft * r80768 10Cartographer_QuestInfo/Data/Name-ruRU.lua: |
| 14:13.53 | CIA-46 | Cartographer_QuestInfo: |
| 14:13.53 | CIA-46 | - fix fckng typo |
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| 14:17.59 | CIA-46 | 03StingerSoft * r80769 10Cartographer_QuestInfo/Locale/Locale-ruRU.lua: |
| 14:17.59 | CIA-46 | Cartographer_QuestInfo: |
| 14:17.59 | CIA-46 | - update ruRU |
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| 14:21.50 | Obelixprime | anyone use wowmatrix? |
| 14:22.09 | Kaelten | Obelixprime: I hope not. |
| 14:22.23 | Obelixprime | kaelten: what's wrong with you |
| 14:22.25 | Obelixprime | it |
| 14:22.29 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 14:22.31 | Kaelten | lol |
| 14:22.45 | Obelixprime | sorry |
| 14:23.51 | Obelixprime | but yeah, what's so bad about it? |
| 14:23.59 | Kaelten | They leach bandwidth from sites who have to pay for it. They mirror and copy addons without permission of the authors. They display their own ads inside the client (which happen to be gold spam related part of the time). |
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| 14:24.57 | Kaelten | They do not honor requests from authors to take addons out of their updater. |
| 14:24.59 | Obelixprime | How's that different then wowaceupdater, or jwowupdater or wow ui updater |
| 14:25.09 | Obelixprime | oh |
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| 14:25.36 | Kaelten | WAU is a quasi-official updater for wowace |
| 14:25.43 | Kaelten | it also hosts ads that help support wowace |
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| 14:26.30 | Obelixprime | hmm |
| 14:26.32 | Kaelten | I allow other updaters to use the feeds on wowace currently, but to my knowledge WowMatrix is the only one who puts their own ads in their updater. |
| 14:26.33 | Obelixprime | alright |
| 14:28.13 | Kaelten | WowMatrix may be something that many users wants, and I understand that. But its going to end up causing a lot of harm to the people who have to *pay* for the bandwidth it consumes. All while its owner's try to turn a profit. |
| 14:28.57 | Punkie | technically speaking it probably does alleviate some traffic? especially on patch day |
| 14:29.02 | Kaelten | Nope. |
| 14:29.04 | Obelixprime | I see where you're getting at, this came up in a conversation with a friend of mine about something nevcairial said yesterday about using a svn/git repository for his addons |
| 14:29.12 | dafire | looks like calderra runs much better now blizzard use it to promote wotlk on the games convention .) |
| 14:29.30 | Obelixprime | since i suggested making a git repository for your wtf/interface folders |
| 14:29.34 | Kaelten | Punkie: WowMatrix screenscrapes and downloads directly from curse.com, auctioneer's site and others. |
| 14:29.46 | Punkie | but only once though? |
| 14:29.50 | Kaelten | Nope |
| 14:29.59 | Punkie | not once per version? |
| 14:30.03 | Kaelten | nope |
| 14:30.08 | Punkie | i see |
| 14:30.14 | Fisker- | once per full moon? |
| 14:30.14 | Kaelten | every download |
| 14:30.17 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 14:30.21 | Kaelten | ~lart Fisker- |
| 14:30.21 | purl | crushes Fisker- with a full height scsi disk |
| 14:30.22 | Kaelten | :P |
| 14:30.47 | [Ammo] | Kaelten: I posted something on elitstjerks to clarify things |
| 14:30.52 | Gibbonz|Work | strange tekkub isnt online.. he's usually idling here ;p |
| 14:30.52 | Punkie | that's a pretty bad concept if i'm getting you right Kaelten :P |
| 14:30.53 | [Ammo] | stupid thread derailed as much as the wowace one |
| 14:31.14 | Kaelten | Punkie: if you wireshark it trying to download questhelper, you'll see it request the download page from curse, followed by downloading the file after it find the link. so it actually worsens the problem on patchdays |
| 14:31.15 | Fisker- | what about wowkon btw_ |
| 14:31.16 | Fisker- | ? |
| 14:31.18 | Kaelten | [Ammo] link? |
| 14:31.20 | Fisker- | heard people got banned :D |
| 14:31.52 | Kaelten | Fisker-: they mirror, but they still shouldn't be doing that without authors permissions. |
| 14:32.03 | [Ammo] | http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t28827-wowace_close_its_doors_sort/p4/#post861882 |
| 14:32.13 | Punkie | I don't really understand, what's the point of them mirroring in the first place then? |
| 14:32.58 | [Ammo] | they mirror download locations afaik |
| 14:33.16 | [Ammo] | so basically scrape the sites, but the download bandwith still comes on the plate of the original owner |
| 14:33.19 | [Ammo] | without any benefit of ads |
| 14:33.40 | Funkeh` | [Ammo], thats a very nice post |
| 14:33.59 | Funkeh` | But I bet they will still find something to argue about |
| 14:34.09 | Fisker- | so how close are we to wau being shut down? |
| 14:34.12 | Gibbonz|Work | wish I could code.. want to fix this glitch/bug im having with teknicolor & ct_core :D |
| 14:34.13 | Fisker- | seems to be imminent |
| 14:34.26 | Kaelten | Fisker-: we still have several weeks |
| 14:34.27 | Obelixprime | give me ads if it will give you guys money |
| 14:34.28 | [Ammo] | Funkeh`: then I'll let her rip and get myself banned |
| 14:34.28 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 14:34.32 | Fisker- | alright |
| 14:34.39 | Funkeh` | heh |
| 14:34.47 | Kalroth | http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t28827-wowace_close_its_doors_sort/p2/#post861882 (for people that uses a different posts-per-page setting!) |
| 14:34.59 | Kaelten | lol |
| 14:35.04 | [Ammo] | tsk |
| 14:35.20 | Kalroth | Oi Kaelten, I got a question! |
| 14:35.31 | p3lim | Anyone knows if Tuller uses IRC? |
| 14:35.46 | Kaelten | Kalroth: ? |
| 14:35.49 | Fisker- | ~seen tuller |
| 14:35.52 | purl | tuller <n=muffins@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 5d 15h 13m 28s ago, saying: 'though one of those is best left as a forum post'. |
| 14:35.59 | p3lim | Hm 5 days |
| 14:36.25 | Obelixprime | The biggest issue I've found and which is one of the reasons I'm in this channel is to find out about good addons |
| 14:36.35 | Kalroth | If I worked for an ISP and had access to a few file servers with unlimited bandwidth, would it be possible to make a site similar (nearly identical) to files.wowace.com ? |
| 14:36.36 | Kaelten | Obelixprime: the future Curseclient will either be ad supported, of course premium users won't have the ads. |
| 14:36.55 | Obelixprime | I've always had this issue where I like to "browse" and read up on addons |
| 14:37.03 | Obelixprime | and really, there's no consistent venue to do that |
| 14:37.16 | Kaelten | Kalroth: anything is possible, but NEVER copy addons from other sites to populate your own. |
| 14:37.38 | Kaelten | Thats a sure fire way to get yourself some hate from the author community |
| 14:38.12 | Obelixprime | Kaelten: Will the premium version have access to wowinterface, gathereraddon.com, auctioneer.com AND allow 1 button updating of addons? |
| 14:38.37 | Fisker- | and it's one big internet hate machine here |
| 14:38.38 | Fisker- | rawr |
| 14:38.47 | Kaelten | Obelixprime: it'll have access to any site that supports the psyn formats. |
| 14:38.58 | Obelixprime | which currently are... |
| 14:39.07 | Kalroth | Kaelten: Well basically I'm just asking about keeping files.wowace.com up, but the only bandwidth for you guys would be the updating from SVN to the mirror site |
| 14:39.10 | Kaelten | But yes 1 click update, or even 0 click updating will be possible with the premium version. |
| 14:39.15 | winkiller | Kaelten: completely unrelated, do you plan to actively maintain OneBag et.al or no time? :P |
| 14:39.37 | [Ammo] | he never has and will! |
| 14:39.42 | [Ammo] | *hides* |
| 14:39.42 | Kaelten | winkiller: :) http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/onebag3/ |
| 14:39.50 | winkiller | oh sweet |
| 14:40.05 | Kaelten | going to make sure I have a release ready for liche king |
| 14:40.20 | winkiller | because I totally need OneView to work without having OneBag on a char and I didn't manage to hack it up :P |
| 14:40.20 | Fisker- | Any pricing details on premium yet? |
| 14:40.25 | thul | I just attended a new class at my uni, quite cool |
| 14:40.32 | winkiller | goes to stalk the related suggestions/Bugtracker |
| 14:40.45 | Pneumatus | rumor has it, premium will love you long time for ten dollah |
| 14:40.50 | Pneumatus | or 12. |
| 14:41.14 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 14:41.14 | Kaelten | Fisker-: if you pay in large chunks it it'll be something like 2 or 3 dollars a month. |
| 14:42.01 | Chompers | oh Fisker-, you scamp |
| 14:42.16 | Fisker- | Chompers you haxer |
| 14:42.27 | Kaelten | if you pay month to month I think it'll be less than 5 a month. |
| 14:43.01 | Kaelten | we're also looking at group rates |
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| 14:43.29 | Pneumatus | but authors get premium for free, right? :) |
| 14:43.42 | Kaelten | so that a guild can chip in together (or have a generous officers) and get a better rate |
| 14:43.44 | winkiller | 1 LOC = 1 ct off |
| 14:44.20 | winkiller | every bugfix makes it cheaper. and code coverage > 80% and docs make it even cheaper ;) |
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| 14:44.57 | Kaelten | Pneumatus: I know at least a subset of authors will have premium for free. |
| 14:44.59 | Kaelten | I'm not sure if its been decided on a top #/% of authors or all yet. |
| 14:45.07 | ckknight | it's the good ones, at least |
| 14:45.21 | Kaelten | Ya we don't want people to be uploading Hello World to get free premium |
| 14:45.31 | ckknight | it might be that you have to be an author for X amount of days or whatever |
| 14:45.32 | Fisker- | i think ckknight should pay for his premium account |
| 14:45.33 | Fisker- | DEARLY |
| 14:45.35 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 14:45.52 | ckknight | everyone loves http://war.curseforge.com/projects/hello-world/, Kaelten |
| 14:45.58 | Polarina | "To participate in the beta tests, you must have a valid retail World of Warcraft account active and in good standing as of July 15, 2008. " -- LIES! |
| 14:46.01 | Fisker- | Do you take sacrifical rituals? |
| 14:46.08 | Kaelten | Oh well he's already given up all his premium points to help feed the homeless.... |
| 14:46.33 | Pucmel | ehlo world |
| 14:46.49 | Pneumatus | 450 more encrypted twilight text to go... |
| 14:47.10 | Fisker- | any reason why curse client redownloads and reinstalls all addons it can find? |
| 14:47.29 | Kaelten | It has to do with how it initializes its database |
| 14:47.44 | Pneumatus | so it knows what version its got, id guess |
| 14:47.57 | Kaelten | since it keeps track of every file a package provides and need to know what version it has |
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| 14:48.20 | Fisker- | so does it actually use files from curse or does it still use the ones from wau? |
| 14:48.21 | thul | http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html?_r=3&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin&oref=slogin |
| 14:48.27 | Kaelten | curse |
| 14:48.32 | Fisker- | >:e |
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| 14:48.43 | Kaelten | but after the wowace upgrade our files will be available as well. |
| 14:48.57 | Fisker- | sure |
| 14:49.05 | winkiller | hey, my addon is totally not hello world! |
| 14:49.40 | ANTRat | Hello, (insert current zone here)! |
| 14:51.15 | winkiller | nope, http://laststand.eu.org/guildname/ ingame |
| 14:51.32 | winkiller | and I didn't request any beta access, I just made it to do some lua finally |
| 14:51.53 | winkiller | way cooler than norrisfacts |
| 14:52.04 | cncfanatics | who's the author if fishingbuddy ? |
| 14:52.07 | cncfanatics | I found a nasty bug |
| 14:52.28 | winkiller | that's still used? wow |
| 14:52.30 | Pneumatus | my guildbank guild is called last stand |
| 14:52.45 | winkiller | never had a fishing addon after the anti-autocast |
| 14:53.18 | Pneumatus | i use FishingAce or whatever its called, purely for double-click casting |
| 14:53.34 | winkiller | that sounds ok |
| 14:53.58 | winkiller | but I just pull out the fishing skill to a key the 2 times I fish in a month |
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| 14:54.32 | Pneumatus | i wish i could get away with only fishing twice a month |
| 14:55.01 | Lukian | fishingace suffers from a nasty bug if you are using it and enter combat too |
| 14:55.13 | Fisker- | fisherman's friend drank my elixirs |
| 14:55.16 | Fisker- | and i rawr'ed |
| 14:55.27 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 14:55.30 | Fisker- | i am a lion |
| 14:55.52 | Fisker- | so now i'm like 1g poorer |
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| 14:55.57 | Fisker- | that leaves me 29000g |
| 14:57.21 | Lyn_ | gief 5k plx plx |
| 14:59.30 | AckisWork | Fisker-: gimmee |
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| 15:04.52 | Obelixprime | Fisker-: What would you do if I told you that for a small fee of 10000g I could turn the rest of your gold into 500000g |
| 15:05.47 | |Pixel| | report you for scam ? :P |
| 15:06.38 | Fisker- | yeah |
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| 15:17.00 | Obelixprime | whoever posted that nytimes article... nice |
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| 15:20.20 | Industrial | Any elemental shamans have stat weights they use? http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t20914-shaman_elemental/ What I'm doing now is spelldamage=1 spellcrit=0.7 mp5=0.5 but I don't know it thats correct. I'm in kara gear mostly |
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| 15:24.35 | Lyn_ | Industrial, what do you mean? :o |
| 15:24.48 | Lyn_ | ah.. stat weight thingy |
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| 15:28.00 | Polarina | Remove that code, that code and that code, and my addon works with WotLK! :D |
| 15:29.40 | selckin | is there a RGB list somewhere of class colors? |
| 15:30.02 | Polarina | selckin: Check Wikipedia. |
| 15:30.05 | Cryect | one on wowwiki |
| 15:30.10 | selckin | thanks |
| 15:31.45 | foxlit | Clearly someone didn't like the CMYK list of class colors :) |
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| 15:35.41 | ckknight | foxlit: HSL for me, thanks |
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| 15:39.53 | Industrial | Lyn_: stat weights for deciding if noe piece is better then another depending on what stats are good for your class |
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| 15:41.23 | Lyn_ | mh dont use it for my ele shammy |
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| 15:41.56 | Lyn_ | if it has more dmg and crit/haste i'll take it :o |
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| 15:43.07 | fewyn | I'm seriously seeing too many warglaives out and about on the beta |
| 15:43.32 | Lyn_ | *hides his glaives* :p |
| 15:43.39 | Obelixprime | wtb priest glaives |
| 15:43.53 | fewyn | seriously |
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| 15:52.27 | Obelixprime | i sometimes wish i had found a top end guild at the end of vanilla wow |
| 15:52.36 | Obelixprime | and do like world first gruul/kara clears |
| 15:52.49 | Obelixprime | where atiesh could have been useful |
| 15:52.59 | Obelixprime | i feel like that would have been really awesome |
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| 15:55.54 | g0urra | waves to Polarina |
| 15:56.17 | g0urra | Welcome to the guild |
| 15:56.32 | CIA-46 | 03ackis * r80770 10WelfareEpics/WelfareEpics.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 15:56.32 | CIA-46 | WelfareEpics: |
| 15:56.32 | CIA-46 | - Lookup tables are automated |
| 15:56.32 | CIA-46 | - Created a reverse lookup table |
| 15:56.32 | CIA-46 | - Tab ID setting uses reverse look up table |
| 15:56.34 | CIA-46 | - Changed sub-category of other to something else, this may fix the bug I was having |
| 15:56.36 | CIA-46 | - Uncommented sub-tab code, will have to test this out to verify it works |
| 15:56.52 | Gnarfoz | so, I got my third key today :D |
| 15:57.04 | Adirelle | ^^ |
| 15:57.06 | Obelixprime | you had 3 accounts? |
| 15:57.17 | Adirelle | I had my first and only key today |
| 15:58.15 | Gnarfoz | nope |
| 15:58.43 | Gnarfoz | 1 from a guildie who knows someone at blizzard (yay <3), addon author key from wowi and the third one is either addon author from curse (doubt it) or opt-in (more likely) |
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| 16:00.17 | AckisWork | Gnarfoz: I got my third key last night |
| 16:00.49 | Obelixprime | how do i optin on wowi for a key? |
| 16:01.14 | Wobin | opt-in is on the Blizzard account page |
| 16:01.36 | Obelixprime | yeah, but for addon authors |
| 16:02.23 | Wobin | no such thing =) |
| 16:02.42 | Wobin | just the standard competitions |
| 16:03.14 | Gnarfoz | they're both not competitions. |
| 16:04.08 | Gnarfoz | if you're an addon author and your addon is up to date for 2.4.3 on wowi or curse (you can still upload it now, that's valid, too), you can enter their addon author key program |
| 16:05.53 | Polarina | g0urra: Thanks. |
| 16:09.50 | ckknight | AckisWork: hey, I got my third key as well |
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| 16:12.57 | Fisker- | i got my third key as well! |
| 16:13.10 | eliteevil | Still waiting for my first. =( |
| 16:13.11 | Fisker- | don't you hate it when you run out of countries to buy, etc? |
| 16:14.57 | Kaelten | ya, I put a bit in on Luxembourg not to long ago but decided it wasn't worth it. |
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| 16:33.17 | dodga | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:33.48 | ckknight | dodga: you got one? |
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| 16:34.03 | CIA-46 | 03Copystring * r80771 10YurrCombatLog/Core.lua: |
| 16:34.03 | CIA-46 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 16:34.03 | CIA-46 | - fix combat event |
| 16:34.11 | dodga | I'm a Blizz-Addict since Warcraft 2/Diablo 1 and never freakin-ever got a beta key :P |
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| 16:35.22 | dodga | ckknight: I wish :P But the graphics card in my desktop PC is currently dead and my laptop has a hard time handling WoW, so I couldn't do much beta testing anyways |
| 16:35.37 | dodga | I wonder how I ever raided MC and BWL on this machine two years ago |
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| 16:36.09 | bfeldman | any bigwigs people on? |
| 16:36.39 | nevcairiel | dodga: hardware reqs increase while apps develop ;) |
| 16:36.51 | dodga | nevcairiel: Teh lies :/ |
| 16:37.12 | dodga | Though the fan was going crazy when playing WoW back then |
| 16:38.12 | dodga | I also remember how much fun it was creating addons in the old days. I still use one of my first addons :o |
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| 16:44.00 | digmouse | uh how can i open some config for bartender4 wotlk beta? |
| 16:44.32 | dodga | Did you try /bt? :> |
| 16:44.42 | dodga | I'm just guessing though |
| 16:44.43 | digmouse | tried /bartender4 |
| 16:44.50 | digmouse | u win |
| 16:44.59 | dodga | \o/ |
| 16:45.06 | dodga | At least this time |
| 16:45.07 | digmouse | dont use bt for half a year >.< |
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| 16:46.53 | dodga | pizza time! |
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| 16:48.51 | digmouse | sleep time |
| 16:49.02 | digmouse | 1:00am almost |
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| 16:49.58 | dodga | 1850 over here :o |
| 16:51.21 | Gnarfoz | uh yeah http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=41816 |
| 16:52.53 | Polarina | People say screenfog and OpenGL works in Wine 0.9.46 |
| 16:53.21 | dodga | wasn't wine finally released to 1.something? |
| 16:53.50 | Josh_Borke | dodga: yes |
| 16:54.25 | Polarina | Probably a regression. |
| 16:54.39 | dodga | Oh now I understand |
| 16:55.00 | steev | mmmm wine |
| 16:55.19 | Polarina | I'm going to try a downgrade. |
| 16:55.25 | dodga | Beer > Wine. |
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| 17:01.52 | Polarina | WINE stands for Wine is not an emulator, or better known as WINdows Emulator. |
| 17:04.31 | dodga | Well Beer stands for... well you drink it! :> |
| 17:05.17 | Primer | Yeah, I saw the fog issue in wine |
| 17:06.24 | Polarina | Primer: Downgrading to wine 0.9.46 and I don't have this issue anymore. |
| 17:06.38 | Polarina | Worst that multisampling stops working. |
| 17:07.02 | Primer | That's going pretty far back |
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| 17:07.31 | Polarina | Aye. I'm going to try 0.9.47 now. |
| 17:07.52 | Polarina | And then take a regression test and submit a bug report. |
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| 17:14.05 | Polarina | Works in 0.9.47 |
| 17:14.24 | Lukian | fog issue? |
| 17:14.29 | Polarina | Yes. |
| 17:14.38 | Lukian | details? |
| 17:14.38 | Polarina | I'm taking a regression test. |
| 17:15.24 | Polarina | I hope it doesn't date too far back. |
| 17:21.46 | Polarina | Works in 0.9.48 |
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| 17:29.21 | Polarina | Works in 0.9.50 |
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| 17:36.03 | Obelixprime | wtb for my paladin http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=41384#comments |
| 17:37.25 | Polarina | Works in 0.9.52 |
| 17:38.59 | nevcairiel | Polarina: just say "broken as of x", thats way more helpful |
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| 17:39.24 | Polarina | nevcairiel: I haven't finished my regression test. |
| 17:39.32 | Polarina | nevcairiel: I'm still finding the version that broke it. |
| 17:39.39 | nevcairiel | so tell us when you did |
| 17:39.44 | Polarina | nevcairiel: All right. |
| 17:39.46 | nevcairiel | and dont list all working versions =P |
| 17:40.19 | Polarina | Broken in 0.4.17 |
| 17:40.22 | Polarina | grins. |
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| 17:42.26 | Polarina | nevcairiel: Do you play using wine? |
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| 17:43.07 | nevcairiel | not generally, but i test it sometimes to see how its working now |
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| 17:43.43 | Polarina | Ok. |
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| 17:50.25 | Pkekyo| | http://www.wimp.com/crazyhammering/ lmao, brilliant |
| 17:50.42 | Fisker- | why so srs? |
| 17:51.43 | |Pixel| | *grin* |
| 17:58.09 | steev | is there any way to tell if a quest is a daily without hardcoding their names? |
| 17:58.18 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 17:58.41 | nevcairiel | GetQuestLogTitle returns it |
| 17:59.32 | steev | it does? |
| 17:59.45 | steev | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetQuestLogTitle |
| 18:00.00 | steev | or is there something more up to date? |
| 18:00.35 | steev | oh duh |
| 18:00.38 | steev | isDaily |
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| 18:01.45 | steev | 1 if true, nil or 1nil if false? |
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| 18:04.43 | dodga | My brother's a jerk. I told him that people here get 2nd and 3rd beta keys and I didn't get even one. He's like "What you don't have a beta key? Want some of mine?". I glare at him like "wtf?! you got beta keys and didn't tell me" and he breaks out in manical laughter... |
| 18:05.30 | Polarina | :P |
| 18:06.17 | dodga | People even screen shot their keys and post them... |
| 18:06.22 | Obelixprime | How many does he have? |
| 18:07.17 | dodga | Stop messing with me :P |
| 18:07.24 | Polarina | Screenfog is broken as of Wine 0.9.57. |
| 18:09.54 | Polarina | nevcairiel: Was that more helpful? |
| 18:10.31 | steev | can i do something like, if not isHeader and questTitle and (isDaily !=1) == quest then |
| 18:10.36 | Thrae | http://www.mmo-champion.com/ <-- WotLK Cinematic trailer released. |
| 18:10.45 | steev | Thrae: its also on the launchpad |
| 18:11.06 | nevcairiel | Polarina: yes! |
| 18:11.07 | Thrae | Some of us don't actually play WoW. |
| 18:11.11 | Thrae | Whoops. |
| 18:11.31 | steev | Thrae: just letting you know its also there - and its fucking amazing |
| 18:11.47 | steev | i had a friend over who'd never played the game before and he saw me watching it and asked what it was |
| 18:12.10 | steev | i told him and he was like, shit, i've seen movies with shittier quality |
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| 18:18.54 | AckisWork | lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoMLajHUNgQ 60-100 level 1 gnomes kill a 70 warrior |
| 18:19.23 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowhead.com/?contest=name-that-screenshot |
| 18:19.37 | Xinhuan | ackis |
| 18:19.44 | Xinhuan | might be interested |
| 18:20.40 | AckisWork | ty looking now... btw I was able to get like 800 rep in a few hours last night... stupid me for turning in junkboxes |
| 18:20.54 | Xinhuan | i got 800 rep in 1 hour just now |
| 18:20.56 | Xinhuan | just killing mobs |
| 18:21.39 | AckisWork | I was alt-tabbing, making dinner, etc |
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| 18:23.58 | Obelixprime | ... |
| 18:24.03 | Obelixprime | its not night in edmonton |
| 18:24.12 | AckisWork | last night :P |
| 18:24.20 | Obelixprime | oooh |
| 18:24.26 | Obelixprime | NO CONTEXT FOR OBELIX |
| 18:24.30 | Thrae | AckisWork: That was a useless video. You can't see WHO actually killed the Warrior. |
| 18:24.34 | Industrial | Xinhuan: does your script convert haste rating to -%cast-time ? |
| 18:24.35 | Industrial | :p |
| 18:24.44 | Xinhuan | what script |
| 18:24.59 | Industrial | the one with the pvp ratings or is that not you |
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| 18:25.52 | AckisWork | !rating 1400 |
| 18:25.53 | Xinhuan | 1400 rating gives 322(5s), 283(3s) and 244(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 18:25.57 | AckisWork | no it's not him |
| 18:26.48 | Obelixprime | !points 5000 |
| 18:26.49 | Xinhuan | You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap). |
| 18:26.57 | Obelixprime | !points 1511 |
| 18:26.58 | Xinhuan | 1511 arena points require INF(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
| 18:27.04 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:27.09 | Industrial | got it :P |
| 18:27.10 | Industrial | Spell Haste = (Spell Haste Rating / 15.7) / 100 |
| 18:27.11 | Industrial | New Casting Time = (Base Casting Time)/(1 + (% Spell Haste)) |
| 18:27.12 | Obelixprime | my team has an infinity rating |
| 18:27.17 | nevcairiel | !points 1510 |
| 18:27.17 | Xinhuan | 1510 arena points require 3354(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
| 18:27.26 | Obelixprime | 3354 rating? |
| 18:27.27 | Obelixprime | wow |
| 18:28.10 | Thrae | !ar 1510 |
| 18:28.20 | Thrae | Hmm, mine's off a little |
| 18:28.41 | Xinhuan | we established that my scripts's log() function is off at 1510 already |
| 18:28.45 | Thrae | Using 2.3.1 algorithms |
| 18:28.50 | Xinhuan | accurate only to 6 decimals |
| 18:28.55 | Thrae | Ah |
| 18:29.03 | Xinhuan | so 1510 is wrong, but 1509 would be correct |
| 18:29.06 | Thrae | !ar 1511 |
| 18:29.11 | Obelixprime | !points 1509 |
| 18:29.12 | Xinhuan | 1509 arena points require 3354(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
| 18:29.22 | Thrae | !ar 1512 |
| 18:29.22 | Obelixprime | !points 1000 |
| 18:29.23 | Xinhuan | 1000 arena points require 1960(5s), 2067(3s) and 2259(2s) team rating. |
| 18:29.38 | Stanzilla | Tekkub: right click in MRGN is not working :( |
| 18:29.46 | Thrae | 1511 gives me 3901 rating for 5v5 on WoWLuaircBot |
| 18:30.04 | Xinhuan | yeah, i just cut it off there |
| 18:30.10 | Xinhuan | no one's gonna obtain 3901 |
| 18:30.22 | Thrae | Above 1511 is all 0s. |
| 18:30.38 | Thrae | And my bot says I fail at life. |
| 18:34.22 | Pkekyo| | . ¶?c?????????||??????????||?~ ~:~:~ :~ : ?MORTAL BOMB?? |
| 18:34.22 | Pkekyo| | ????????????????????? |
| 18:34.22 | Pkekyo| | ?V?A?U?L?K?E?N?A?T?O?R??? |
| 18:34.22 | Pkekyo| | ????????????????? |
| 18:34.46 | nevcairiel | slaps Pkekyo| with Ozzy Osbourne |
| 18:35.16 | Vilkku | is there a FP in wintergrasp? |
| 18:35.17 | Pkekyo| | what? :p |
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| 18:42.08 | Pkekyo| | Suicide |
| 18:42.08 | Pkekyo| | Instant. 10 seconds cooldown. |
| 18:42.08 | Pkekyo| | When seeing himself alone against an enemy, the warrior will thrust his dagger into his own chest to save himself the humiliation of losing to a dork in a pijamas, a holy man with a big hammer, or a self regenerating bear monster. |
| 18:42.36 | Pkekyo| | GEIF |
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| 18:44.28 | dodga | self regenerating bear monste - now we're really fucked :> |
| 18:45.38 | Pkekyo| | dodga: eh? |
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| 18:49.13 | dodga | don't you know those pictures like "bear cavalery - now we're fucked"? |
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| 18:50.23 | dodga | like http://www.bruddabear.com/photo/BearCavalry.jpg or http://420.thrashbarg.net/penguin_army_bear_cavalry.jpg |
| 18:52.00 | Ellipsis | om nom nom Pkekyo| |
| 18:52.51 | dodga | Ellipsis: floss aftr evry nom! |
| 18:53.03 | Ellipsis | yes sir |
| 18:53.47 | dodga | Ceiling cat approves :> |
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| 18:57.36 | Hjalte | In DM east, where do you start following that imp? |
| 18:57.54 | dodga | uhm, he's right left to the entrance iirc |
| 18:58.05 | Hjalte | There's two entrances |
| 18:58.14 | dodga | hm |
| 18:58.48 | Carancu | take the main entrance, the one beside the arena there. |
| 19:00.15 | Hjalte | Yeah, we just found him. We took the wrong entrance initially. |
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| 19:21.05 | Neo|Other | anyone else finding the wotlk release to have less excitement due to, well, the openes? |
| 19:21.17 | Neo|Other | miss all those translated chinese changes :P |
| 19:23.58 | Zyndrome | and another Torch of the Damned drop |
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| 19:26.34 | Aerr | Zyndrome, that and soul cleaver drop too much |
| 19:26.58 | Aerr | Even worse. Last 7 kills of illidan. Healer cloak drops |
| 19:27.02 | Aerr | every time |
| 19:28.15 | Gngsk | good thing you don't raid for the loot |
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| 19:28.59 | Zyndrome | and faggots call our house |
| 19:30.14 | harl | is there a ldb add-on that auto-hides its buttons/bars when they're not needed? |
| 19:30.18 | harl | *an |
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| 19:35.21 | Neo|Other | so looking at wowjutsu I think it's about time to give SWP the nerf bat |
| 19:35.55 | Neo|Other | for example lowering the DPS output of brutallus a bit, decreasing his health with 500-700k or so (enough to bring an extra healer in) etc |
| 19:36.01 | Arrowmaster | well it killed my guild and is driving me to quit the game so nah |
| 19:36.04 | Neo|Other | there are only 840ish US brutallus kills |
| 19:36.45 | Neo|Other | Arrowmaster: so ... you say keep it because if it fucked my wow experience it should fuck everyone elses too? |
| 19:36.53 | dodga | brutallus is hard. it's not nice when your completely T6 geared tanks get essentially oneshot before a heal lands |
| 19:36.55 | Arrowmaster | duh |
| 19:36.59 | Neo|Other | M'uru is killing my guild |
| 19:37.01 | Neo|Other | atm |
| 19:37.03 | dodga | but it is absolutely doable :D |
| 19:37.27 | Neo|Other | dodga: for sure but it's too hard now considering when the expansion is coming etc. |
| 19:37.35 | Neo|Other | give us a few months to enjoy clearing SWP |
| 19:37.43 | Arrowmaster | so its just like Naxx? |
| 19:37.47 | Neo|Other | rather than a few months (2 and counting) suffering on M'uru |
| 19:38.02 | Neo|Other | Arrowmaster: which sort of is my point. they should nerf it before it's another naxx fiasco |
| 19:38.03 | dodga | Hm I dunno, depends on how your progression was before Sunwell |
| 19:38.19 | Neo|Other | dodga: Illidan killed at end of 2007 |
| 19:38.30 | AckisWork | they need to add more content |
| 19:38.35 | dodga | On Frostmourne EU a lot of raids are at M'uru or KJ |
| 19:38.41 | Arrowmaster | they shouldnt have introduced it so hard, it was bound to be a naxx fiasco |
| 19:38.56 | Neo|Other | we have 1 KJ kill, 1 working on KJ, 3-4 working on M'uru |
| 19:39.00 | profalbert | on our server only ONE guild got muru |
| 19:39.13 | CIA-46 | 03cryect 072.4 * r80772 10Recount2/ (Misc/Tables.lua Recount2.lua Tracker/Data.lua): |
| 19:39.13 | CIA-46 | Recount2: |
| 19:39.13 | CIA-46 | -Can track data in any number of active datasets now |
| 19:39.13 | CIA-46 | -Adds a debug flag currently only used for getting tables at the moment |
| 19:39.15 | Neo|Other | it's really time to drop this high level of difficultyy |
| 19:39.15 | AckisWork | has killed KJ wheeeee |
| 19:39.19 | Neo|Other | gheck remove sunwell radiance |
| 19:39.35 | AckisWork | KJ was nerfed already and so was muru |
| 19:39.45 | Neo|Other | M'uru nerf doesnt' do much to make it easier |
| 19:39.55 | dodga | Neo|Other: Our raid killed Illidan on Jan 22nd and killed Twins some days ago. Though the raid suffers from people not showing because it's summer or something like that :D |
| 19:39.57 | Arrowmaster | maybe if they did nerf it i would have a chance in hell of getting into a good guild and doing it |
| 19:39.59 | AckisWork | decreased the HP of the adds? |
| 19:40.03 | dodga | I don't like since end of June :o |
| 19:40.05 | Neo|Other | one of the hardest things with M'uru is the damn door adds running across the room because they didn't stop for a second to let the tank pick them up (aka bugs) |
| 19:40.23 | Neo|Other | AckisWork: decreased HP in general |
| 19:40.34 | Arrowmaster | since right now i dont have a chance in hell of getting into a good guild because i wont do shit like drop my professions to go leatherworking/enchanting |
| 19:40.36 | dodga | But yeah, I think it should not be like Naxx back in Classic |
| 19:40.37 | Neo|Other | it helps but not enough so we can (easily) bring in our ret pally and boomkin etc |
| 19:40.38 | profalbert | well summer gives a hard time to nearly every raid i think |
| 19:40.49 | Neo|Other | which fucking sucks for them since they need to sit on standby all the time |
| 19:40.58 | Neo|Other | profalbert: summer is not our issue |
| 19:41.17 | syeren | All the Swedes fuck off at Summer :< |
| 19:41.17 | dodga | Naxx was a really great instance but hard for not so hardcore raids and released too short before the expansion |
| 19:41.31 | Arrowmaster | the 'summer' excuse is not an excuse, its used year around |
| 19:41.34 | dodga | Honestly though, I can't stand Sunwell :> |
| 19:42.16 | Neo|Other | after hving killed brutallus for so many monts now (4 maybe/) and still having the SWP geared tanks die in 1.5s due to bad luck timing on heals and no dodge/parry is silly |
| 19:42.25 | Cryect | Naxx was the pinacle of Blizzard's raid design though |
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| 19:42.35 | Neo|Other | 16-18k dmg per 1.5s worst case |
| 19:42.41 | Arrowmaster | 'oh its summer break' 'oh its fall can school it starting back up' 'oh its midterms' 'oh its winter holidays' 'oh its spring break' 'oh its midterms' 'oh its finals' |
| 19:42.48 | Arrowmaster | happens year round |
| 19:42.48 | Neo|Other | DPS-wise we easily kill brutallus now |
| 19:43.08 | Neo|Other | Arrowmaster: yep. we don't have many students so we don't notice that as much |
| 19:43.18 | winkiller | we're just wiping 5th time on farm Naj'entus. if one can whine then me :P |
| 19:43.33 | Arrowmaster | maybe half my guild was college students |
| 19:44.56 | Neo|Other | Things I love about SWP: Hard encounters (BT/Hyjal were kind of a letdown due to being too easy for the most part). What I don't like: Random deaths due to bad encounter design (imho). bad luck on dodge/millisecond off on heals killing the tank is no fun (this is both felmyst and brutallus really) |
| 19:45.01 | Neo|Other | also don't like the trash setup |
| 19:45.23 | Neo|Other | with insanely good trash drops having literally no trash after kalecgos until pre-muru is dumb |
| 19:45.55 | Neo|Other | and trash drop rate is too low although it might be too low only due to lack of trash that drops loot for a kalecgos killing raid |
| 19:46.32 | Neo|Other | also don't like the stupid differences in raid makeups that are required |
| 19:46.48 | Neo|Other | 8-9 healers, 7 healers, 9 healers, 10-12 healers, 6-7 healers |
| 19:46.49 | Arrowmaster | its a really shitty instance |
| 19:47.07 | Neo|Other | twins need a raid damage nerf |
| 19:47.14 | Arrowmaster | but at that progression level hyjal and bt are so fucking boring too |
| 19:47.22 | Neo|Other | yeah |
| 19:47.31 | falconindy | Neo: if you take the raid damage out of Twins, the encounter is entirely too simple |
| 19:47.40 | Neo|Other | falconindy: didn't say take it out, I said lower it |
| 19:47.45 | falconindy | well, even if its lowered |
| 19:47.48 | Cryect | Any instance on Farming is broing |
| 19:47.51 | Neo|Other | it's still a technical fight |
| 19:47.52 | Arrowmaster | only item i dont have from hyjal/bt is the fucking sword from archi =( |
| 19:47.53 | Neo|Other | and it's not EASY |
| 19:47.56 | falconindy | techincal? no |
| 19:48.10 | Neo|Other | raid healing is not the only thing that's hard |
| 19:48.12 | falconindy | the only person who really needs to move are the tanks |
| 19:48.21 | Neo|Other | so what if it's easier? that's the whole point |
| 19:48.41 | falconindy | if you lower the raid damage component, you bring less healers and they fall over in no time flat. it'd be boring as sin |
| 19:48.45 | Neo|Other | the whole place should be taken down a notch |
| 19:48.56 | Cryect | So why should they nerf it now besides you are having issues with it? |
| 19:48.59 | Neo|Other | I'd say reduce raid damage, increase hitpoints |
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| 19:49.10 | Neo|Other | Cryect: so people can enjouy SWP before wotlk |
| 19:49.11 | falconindy | why? it's the last instance in the expansion. it's on par with naxx |
| 19:49.16 | Cryect | I'm sure they will nerf everything more before WotLK is released but just what makes now the time |
| 19:49.19 | falconindy | it's meant to be difficult |
| 19:49.22 | Neo|Other | falconindy: and naxx was a failure |
| 19:49.27 | Cryect | Naxx was a failure? |
| 19:49.28 | Neo|Other | Blizzard admitted as much |
| 19:49.32 | Cryect | Best instance they ever made :-p |
| 19:49.36 | falconindy | naxx was a failure because they released it too soon before TBC... it was a FANTASTIC instance and very well tuned |
| 19:49.38 | Neo|Other | yes. because too few people were able to do it before the expansion |
| 19:49.39 | Cryect | they just messed up with releasing it when they did |
| 19:50.01 | Cryect | But difficulty balanced |
| 19:50.07 | Cryect | Naxx was the most balanced instance they made |
| 19:50.17 | Cryect | instead of being too easy or too hard it was pretty much just right |
| 19:50.33 | Obelixprime | i've always heard of ridiculous consumable requirements though |
| 19:50.42 | Cryect | Naxx wasn't that bad consumables |
| 19:50.47 | Neo|Other | SWP: 3.27% kalecgos, 2.24% brut, 1.5% felmyst, 1.15% twins, 0.49% M'uru, 0.17% KJ |
| 19:50.49 | Obelixprime | like getting every sing world buff imaginable to kill certain bosses |
| 19:50.59 | Obelixprime | single* |
| 19:51.00 | Cryect | That was only done for whats his name |
| 19:51.04 | Gngsk | healbot |
| 19:51.07 | Obelixprime | loatheb? |
| 19:51.08 | Cryect | loatheb |
| 19:51.08 | AckisWork | loatheb |
| 19:51.17 | AckisWork | grave moss is the DEVIL |
| 19:51.36 | Cryect | And you would then still be buffed up as a result for Sapphiron and Kel'Thuzad |
| 19:51.46 | Cryect | but world buffs didn't really matter much for them |
| 19:51.48 | Neo|Other | if they don't nerf SWP by the time wotlk comes out you'll have less than 0.5% who' ever seen KJ |
| 19:51.49 | Cryect | just slightly easier |
| 19:52.08 | Cryect | They will nerf SWP |
| 19:52.37 | Obelixprime | i just wonder though, if the same limitation on consumables was placed back at level 60 if saying Naxx was tuned properly would still be valid |
| 19:52.44 | Cryect | Yes |
| 19:52.47 | Neo|Other | Obelixprime: doubtful |
| 19:52.48 | Cryect | it wasn't till Hydross |
| 19:52.56 | Cryect | that consumable usage flew through the roof |
| 19:53.00 | Neo|Other | Obelixprime: since people had to stack all consumables imaginable for nax |
| 19:53.05 | Cryect | I went through barely any consumables in Naxx |
| 19:53.15 | Obelixprime | What class were you Cryect? |
| 19:53.17 | Cryect | compared to what we did for SSC |
| 19:53.19 | Cryect | Druid |
| 19:53.36 | Neo|Other | I think the consumable thing were more a DPS issue |
| 19:53.47 | Neo|Other | since naxx was the first true DPS requirement instance |
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| 19:53.56 | Cryect | DPS wasn't an issue on most the fights |
| 19:54.12 | Cryect | There were a couple DPS fights |
| 19:54.20 | Cryect | most the fights were technical |
| 19:54.21 | Neo|Other | so when did you kill KJ Cryect ? |
| 19:54.29 | Neo|Other | and how many months on M'uru? |
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| 19:54.39 | Neo|Other | same question to falconindy |
| 19:54.54 | Obelixprime | We spent just a little bit over a month on M'uru |
| 19:54.55 | Cryect | My old guild killed KJ a while ago but I also quit playing a year ago right after Illidan died |
| 19:55.05 | Obelixprime | err |
| 19:55.07 | Obelixprime | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.21 | Cryect | think they spent ~6 or 7 weeks on M'uru if I remember from GF bitching :-p |
| 19:55.23 | Obelixprime | but isnce killing M'uru our guild's been splintering and only last week did we get KJ to 52% |
| 19:55.43 | Neo|Other | Obelixprime: how easily do you re-kill muru each week? |
| 19:55.44 | Cryect | The guild isn't as good as it used to be (part of the reason I quit was annoyed at it slowly falling apart) |
| 19:55.57 | Obelixprime | a lot of guilds that had sane raiding requirements i.e. 4 hours a night spent at least a month of attempts on him |
| 19:56.04 | Neo|Other | Cryect: so you're really "part of the problem" more than being affected by it |
| 19:56.05 | Cryect | Neo|Other, well they one shot everything this week in Sunwell |
| 19:56.20 | Obelixprime | if you actually spent "a lot" of time on attempts I think he was killed sooner |
| 19:56.34 | Neo|Other | Obelixprime: half the problem is getting the raid make up to be able to attempt at all |
| 19:56.40 | Obelixprime | Neo|Other: since we've been splintering we have been rather inconsistent |
| 19:56.47 | Neo|Other | Obelixprime: think last night was the 3rd time I've called it |
| 19:56.51 | Obelixprime | LIke, 3 weeks ago, we didn't even kill Felmyst |
| 19:56.53 | Cryect | Yes, by me quitting it did hurt the guild when it come to Sunwell but Sunwell was 9 months after Illidan was dead or whatever as well |
| 19:57.05 | Obelixprime | and this week, it took us a long time to get Felmyst, then only about 8 attempts on M'uru |
| 19:57.06 | Cryect | I wasn't going to farm BT and Hyjal for that long |
| 19:57.13 | Cryect | I hated them :-p |
| 19:57.16 | Obelixprime | We've killed him about 5 times now |
| 19:57.20 | Neo|Other | I'm not saying sunwell was released in a timely fashion (it wasn't) or that it was too hard when released (it was fine) |
| 19:57.23 | Obelixprime | 3 of the times it was within 5 attempts |
| 19:57.33 | Neo|Other | I'm saying it is time to nerf it now. basically every encounter. not hugely so, but a bit |
| 19:57.44 | AckisWork | I stopped raiding with my guild the day after we killed KJ for the first time :D |
| 19:57.55 | Cryect | Blizzard will nerf it when they feel it makes sense |
| 19:57.57 | AckisWork | that week I got the trinket from muru and staff from KJ ahahahahahhahahaha |
| 19:58.07 | Cryect | similar to how they nerfed PvP rewards |
| 19:58.09 | Cryect | before TBC |
| 19:58.18 | Neo|Other | likely by then it will be too late |
| 19:58.31 | Cryect | Too late is having everyone farming Sunwell |
| 19:58.38 | Neo|Other | how many guilds have already disbanded over SWP, M'uru especially? |
| 19:58.38 | Cryect | months before WOTLK is released |
| 19:58.45 | Tornhoof | muru sux |
| 19:58.59 | Neo|Other | Cryect: only 5.3% of guilds in wowju have killed illidan |
| 19:59.06 | Neo|Other | I hardly think "everyone" will farm SWP for months |
| 19:59.07 | Tornhoof | i pretty much stopped raiding coz i couldn't stand the muru wipe festival |
| 19:59.25 | Cryect | ah so 5.3% then 0.17% on KJ at this time makes sense |
| 19:59.29 | Neo|Other | but I'd like to see at least 2-3% of guilds farming KJ |
| 19:59.44 | Cryect | Farming is the best way to kill guilds |
| 19:59.55 | Neo|Other | even after the muru nerf the number of kills barely moved - 180ish in the US at this point |
| 20:00.03 | Obelixprime | We were super dissapointed |
| 20:00.10 | Obelixprime | we got M'uru to 1% the night before the nerf |
| 20:00.13 | Neo|Other | no. wiping for 2-4 months on one boss is the best way to kill guilds |
| 20:00.15 | Cryect | heh that sucks |
| 20:00.22 | Obelixprime | we come in the wednesday after he gets nerfed nad we 1 shot him :( |
| 20:00.54 | Obelixprime | We've had a lot of turnover while farming BT just because people got tired of it |
| 20:01.04 | Obelixprime | and then when sunwell came out people were sluggish |
| 20:01.08 | Cryect | 50% overturn is often what I saw during farming |
| 20:01.13 | Neo|Other | we had very little until SWP |
| 20:01.23 | Neo|Other | where we lost half our healers, 2-3 tanks in a few weeks worth |
| 20:01.32 | Cryect | Impervious had like 75% overturn between Illidian and SWP |
| 20:01.36 | Obelixprime | We've just been losing people slowly |
| 20:01.46 | Neo|Other | likely again because we're not a bunch of teenagers but mostly in the 25-35 yo range |
| 20:01.53 | Neo|Other | kiddies get ADD and move on |
| 20:01.54 | Obelixprime | ^^ |
| 20:02.10 | AckisWork | I think from the time we killed kalec to the time we killed KJ we had 75% of our raid roster turn over (mostly due to a terrible guild leader) |
| 20:02.14 | Neo|Other | and most guilds are composed of kids it seems |
| 20:02.30 | Obelixprime | For us though since we're in the middle range (have to be 18+ to join the guild) a lot of the officers just don't have the time to recruit good people |
| 20:02.47 | Obelixprime | and people complain when we get mediocre applicants and then go to BT and have to gear them up |
| 20:02.49 | Neo|Other | I think from illidan to SWP (illidan in december 07) we maybe list 5% of the raiders? |
| 20:03.16 | Neo|Other | very low turnover because the guild is mature and not all about zomgraiding |
| 20:03.35 | Neo|Other | come SWP we probably have replaced as much as 50% |
| 20:03.36 | Obelixprime | Well, another thing that's become a big issue in my guild is that we've sort of dropped a raid day |
| 20:03.40 | Cryect | Farming results in turnover because it gets boring fast and doing it for several months isn't good |
| 20:03.41 | AckisWork | when 30% of your raid = females and your guild leader hates females it causes issues :( |
| 20:03.51 | Cryect | haha I could imagine AckisWork |
| 20:03.55 | Neo|Other | Cryect: not for us as I said |
| 20:03.59 | Obelixprime | we used to raid 5 nights a week, but due to people's schedule's tightening up we've gone to 4 |
| 20:04.16 | Neo|Other | Cryect: it's a problem in the ultrahardcore raiding guilds that have no guild but ultrahardcore raiding |
| 20:04.28 | Cryect | So you care more about getting loot than the experience of learning the encounters :-p |
| 20:04.30 | Obelixprime | Another thing about farming which is positive is if you can do it in 1 night its actually pretty productive |
| 20:04.31 | AckisWork | Cryect: you would think that with that many females they would cause drama but they were all good players and there was no drama like that |
| 20:04.45 | Neo|Other | I didn't say I liked farming stuff only that it's not a guild killer |
| 20:04.47 | Obelixprime | I would rather farm an isntance 1 night a week then spend 20 hours of week wiping on a boss |
| 20:04.52 | Cryect | I would say you have the lowest drama if you have a good mixture of females/males |
| 20:04.57 | Cryect | its when you have only a few its bad |
| 20:05.01 | Neo|Other | I find guilds that break up over BT for 5-6 months weak |
| 20:05.20 | Neo|Other | heck we were overjoyed when we could cut out a day or two of raiding per week for a few months |
| 20:05.27 | Neo|Other | was relaxing |
| 20:05.35 | Obelixprime | Definitely |
| 20:05.42 | Neo|Other | we raid 4x4 btw |
| 20:05.53 | Obelixprime | Its just taxing now because we're trying to accomodate people so they don't burn out |
| 20:05.56 | Cryect | going from 5-6 days of raiding to 1 day is yeah what does it :-p |
| 20:05.56 | Obelixprime | but that's not really working |
| 20:06.10 | Cryect | since you go from it takes up all your time to none of your time meaning you move on to something else to take it up |
| 20:06.20 | Obelixprime | i would level alts ::( |
| 20:06.45 | Neo|Other | Cryect: that's my point really. my guild has a larger non-raiding member base than raiding and raiding is a large part but far from everything |
| 20:06.58 | Neo|Other | a 6 day per week raiding guild gets lost when not raiding |
| 20:07.10 | Obelixprime | how I worked in my guild was a third string shadowpriest and pretty undergeared, so i was constantly farming for enchants and what not while we farmed bt so i could enchant my gear |
| 20:07.20 | Obelixprime | not to mention completing my final year at university |
| 20:07.26 | Obelixprime | so I enjoyed the lul |
| 20:07.36 | Obelixprime | it made me a more useful part of my guild come sunwell |
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| 20:07.46 | Obelixprime | where now I'm constantly in for fights |
| 20:08.00 | Obelixprime | rather than sitting out |
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| 20:08.55 | Neo|Other | really the main issue is that they are making progression in raid artificially hard and/or slow due to lack of content |
| 20:09.03 | Cryect | anyways make note I don't want hardcore raiding anymore ;) |
| 20:09.05 | Neo|Other | SWP should have been out end of 07 |
| 20:09.13 | Neo|Other | and another instance should have been out when SWP came out |
| 20:09.26 | Cryect | they've always done that not going to change now |
| 20:09.38 | Cryect | You would think they could with the money they are making to have more content design teams |
| 20:09.48 | Neo|Other | but it's hard to expand! |
| 20:09.54 | Cryect | but seem to be sticking to one team instead of multiple teams in parallel |
| 20:09.56 | Cryect | yes it is |
| 20:09.58 | Neo|Other | really for being the most profitable MMO ever, yes you'd think so |
| 20:10.00 | Cryect | Hard to hire good people |
| 20:10.02 | profalbert | did this voice-chat-thingy in 2.2 push back SWP/ZA? |
| 20:10.05 | Obelixprime | would the counter argument be that there was too much to do in vanilla wow? |
| 20:10.13 | Neo|Other | not saying it's easy but after this many yrs |
| 20:10.25 | Obelixprime | like i remember being in an mc/bwl guild while people were doing aq40/naxx |
| 20:10.27 | Neo|Other | they probably have ppl leaving because they try to design new raids but keep wiping |
| 20:10.35 | Obelixprime | there isn't that sort of overlap this time around |
| 20:10.49 | Neo|Other | Obelixprime: there wasn't too much to do in terms of raiding |
| 20:10.57 | Neo|Other | I spend a whole year in MC |
| 20:11.09 | Neo|Other | because they put loot in there that was still good (from rag of course) |
| 20:11.25 | Neo|Other | we progresed past that ofc |
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| 20:12.09 | Neo|Other | but there were only 4 40-man raid instances |
| 20:12.29 | AckisWork | there was a day where there was 1 raid instance |
| 20:12.44 | Cryect | oh I remember those days! |
| 20:12.54 | Arrowmaster | lies |
| 20:13.01 | Obelixprime | right, but by the end of vanilla wow even though there was 4 |
| 20:13.07 | Arrowmaster | (what patch was ony added?) |
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| 20:13.14 | Cryect | Ony was in beta |
| 20:13.18 | Obelixprime | there wasn't really a chance for anyone to progress through all of them as quickly as you can now |
| 20:13.20 | Cryect | MC was added at launch |
| 20:13.29 | Arrowmaster | then there was never a day that there was only 1! |
| 20:13.52 | Obelixprime | and i think that was due to how long of a break there is and how much shorter of a difficulty curve there is between the isntances in tbc |
| 20:14.04 | Obelixprime | you could go from kara/za/badge epics to illidan |
| 20:14.28 | Cryect | Well all of the instances now a days I would say is at least on the technical level as AQ |
| 20:14.38 | Obelixprime | you could never go from ubrs/strat to AQ though |
| 20:14.44 | Cryect | none of the lets teach you how to raid stuff that were comprised of MC/BWL |
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| 20:16.24 | Cryect | There really is no lets teach you how to raid content in TBC which seems to me always an issue and went for really technical fights early on even in the 10 mans in TBC |
| 20:16.44 | kappaccino | meh |
| 20:16.50 | kappaccino | it's an expansion what do you expect? |
| 20:16.58 | kappaccino | newbies will just have to suck it up and learn from their guildmates |
| 20:16.59 | Neo|Other | don't really count Onyxia |
| 20:17.06 | Neo|Other | since it's a single encounter |
| 20:17.13 | Gngsk | it's still a raid instance |
| 20:17.16 | Gngsk | so you have to count it |
| 20:17.23 | Cryect | kappaccino, what about an entirely new guild formed from nonraiders |
| 20:17.32 | Obelixprime | I think with how hard heroics were when it first started that would really help beginners understand some of mechanics |
| 20:18.01 | kappaccino | Cryect, they're screwed? |
| 20:18.07 | Cryect | Obelixprime, issue was they nerfed them to oblivion though :( |
| 20:18.17 | Cryect | the original heroics were the most fun I had in TBC though |
| 20:18.41 | kappaccino | until you ended up farming heroic halls |
| 20:18.41 | Obelixprime | well, by the time they were nerfed the 10 man mechanics were trivialized |
| 20:18.43 | kappaccino | oh lordie |
| 20:19.00 | Neo|Other | Cryect: "really technical fights" is a synonym for "not mindbogglingly boring" |
| 20:19.11 | Neo|Other | I remember thinkin, even early on, how boring most MC fights were |
| 20:19.21 | Cryect | Haha yes because every damn fight was the same in MC |
| 20:19.29 | kappaccino | most mc fights were pretty much tank and kill |
| 20:19.33 | Neo|Other | they evolved raid design a lot |
| 20:19.40 | profalbert | tank&kill&dispel |
| 20:19.44 | kappaccino | with 1 suprise mechanic that everyone picks up on easily |
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| 20:19.55 | kappaccino | whispers: YOU ARE THE BOMB! |
| 20:20.00 | Cryect | Each of them had something to teach basically |
| 20:20.04 | Cristles | Hey deh ! |
| 20:20.16 | Cristles | I need sum infomations |
| 20:20.17 | Obelixprime | OMG TRANQ SHOT |
| 20:20.21 | Neo|Other | but I can't say that Karazhan is that hard |
| 20:20.27 | Neo|Other | from a technical standpoint |
| 20:20.34 | Neo|Other | sure there are some hard ones but.. not really |
| 20:20.36 | Cryect | The original one was |
| 20:20.43 | Neo|Other | no |
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| 20:20.45 | kappaccino | I remember the whole raid would rip on our hunters when they screw up tranq'ing in BWL |
| 20:20.45 | Cristles | I wnt password 2 goto premium content |
| 20:20.49 | sedai| | REMIX!! |
| 20:20.49 | Neo|Other | they didn't change the mechanics of most fights |
| 20:21.00 | Neo|Other | I mean there are exceptions like Nightbane |
| 20:21.06 | Cryect | I was thinking nightbane :-p |
| 20:21.15 | Neo|Other | but he's highly optional |
| 20:21.23 | Cryect | The original nightbane without using invuln exploits was the most fun of Kara |
| 20:21.47 | Cryect | was good fun figuring out all the mechanics |
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| 20:22.10 | Neo|Other | but fights like attumen (easy tank and spank), moroes (tank and spank with some CC) aren't technically challenging |
| 20:22.13 | Cryect | also netherspite was good fun |
| 20:22.17 | Neo|Other | Maiden was another fight that changed quite a bit |
| 20:22.30 | Neo|Other | and she was a bit tricker I admit but also optional |
| 20:22.44 | Cryect | Yeah it was mainly the optional bosses that were technical besides Opera |
| 20:22.53 | Neo|Other | we kept getting R&J (prenerf) which was insanely hard at the time and level |
| 20:23.08 | Neo|Other | I think 7-8 kill sbefore getting anything else |
| 20:23.16 | Cryect | heh |
| 20:23.26 | Cryect | R&J was just out of balance though to the other 2 |
| 20:23.26 | Neo|Other | library was hard (trash) because our healers were sleeping and the tanks died to the robbits |
| 20:23.29 | NivFreak | yea, we used to get R&J constantly |
| 20:23.42 | NivFreak | which is good since everyone always failed at BBW |
| 20:23.43 | NivFreak | haha |
| 20:23.44 | Neo|Other | Aran is different and apparently 'don't move" is hard to grasp |
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| 20:23.48 | NivFreak | running is "hard" |
| 20:24.20 | Neo|Other | still right now I am again strongly considering skipping 25-man stuff in WotLK |
| 20:24.23 | Neo|Other | concentrating on 10 mans |
| 20:24.28 | NivFreak | a lot of people are |
| 20:24.35 | Neo|Other | being a top tier 10-man raid guild sure |
| 20:24.36 | Cryect | I'm considering but only because of time :-p |
| 20:24.41 | Neo|Other | it saves so much pain |
| 20:24.46 | Cryect | Well |
| 20:24.51 | Neo|Other | no need for DKP for example |
| 20:25.00 | NivFreak | We've run 25mans without DKP ;) |
| 20:25.02 | Neo|Other | if you want something, just use a kill list mechanic |
| 20:25.07 | Cryect | I would hope the 10 mans can be just as hard and its really only the overhead that gets cut |
| 20:25.16 | kappaccino | yeah |
| 20:25.18 | nevcairiel | Neo|Other: heh, its true, however i still have those rumors in my head of only unlocking the 10man once the 25 was beaten .. but who knows if those are true |
| 20:25.19 | Neo|Other | NivFreak: I know you can do that but in 10 mans it's completely pointless |
| 20:25.24 | kappaccino | less people to wait on sounds great |
| 20:25.25 | Neo|Other | Cryect: exactly |
| 20:25.41 | Neo|Other | nevcairiel: I'd expect guilds to progress in 25-mans faster than we do 10 mans |
| 20:25.43 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: wrong |
| 20:25.43 | Cryect | The original heroics were a good showing of small numbers with high difficulty |
| 20:25.51 | Neo|Other | we won't ever be the kind of guild that gets top 50 kills today |
| 20:25.54 | kappaccino | but they did say that 10man gear will be lesser to 25 man right |
| 20:25.55 | kappaccino | ? |
| 20:25.58 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: blue -post that claims otherwise? :P |
| 20:26.03 | NivFreak | wrong ;) |
| 20:26.15 | nevcairiel | no bluepost, no saying wrong! |
| 20:26.16 | Neo|Other | with a 10-man I'd expect us to have 3 scheduled raid nights butmost likely raid other night |
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| 20:26.24 | Gngsk | Cryect, also a good example of how that difficulty can cut out certain classes/specs |
| 20:26.31 | Neo|Other | and the idea is to have ppl that want it also gear up alts |
| 20:26.31 | Cryect | Yes :-p |
| 20:26.36 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: common sense now, come on :P |
| 20:26.42 | Neo|Other | so we essentially have 20-25 geared characters |
| 20:26.47 | Cryect | we used very certain 5 mans for those heroics |
| 20:26.53 | Cryect | sucked for fury warriors/rogues! |
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| 20:27.08 | Cryect | and arms warriors |
| 20:27.13 | Neo|Other | and yes 10 man gear will be worse |
| 20:27.24 | Neo|Other | how much remains to be seen |
| 20:27.49 | NivFreak | a full tier below is the last statement I saw |
| 20:28.41 | Obelixprime | hmmm, so yeah 9 months between bt and swp seems to be a bit long |
| 20:28.52 | Obelixprime | when looking at vanilla release schedule |
| 20:29.03 | Neo|Other | I can see them going 1 tier below but 6 months before the next expansion normalize the gear so it's the same |
| 20:29.16 | Obelixprime | 8 months between release and bwl though |
| 20:29.36 | Obelixprime | then 6 month updates until tbc |
| 20:29.57 | Cryect | Well there was ZA inbetween BT and SWP |
| 20:30.00 | Obelixprime | right |
| 20:30.10 | Obelixprime | which i think caused the delay of swp |
| 20:30.13 | Neo|Other | ZA really brought out the retard in some people |
| 20:30.21 | Cryect | when was BT released and SWP released exactly? |
| 20:30.21 | Obelixprime | how so? |
| 20:30.27 | NivFreak | ZA cracked me up |
| 20:30.28 | Neo|Other | Obelixprime: people fucking failing? :) |
| 20:30.30 | Obelixprime | 22 May 2007 - BT/Hyjal |
| 20:30.33 | Neo|Other | lolscout |
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| 20:30.36 | Obelixprime | 25 March 2008 - SWP |
| 20:30.40 | NivFreak | THERE IS NO WAY A TANK IN LESS THAN T6 CAN TANK THE BEAR BOSS |
| 20:30.42 | NivFreak | ZOMG REBALANCE |
| 20:30.47 | NivFreak | haah |
| 20:30.54 | Cryect | haha |
| 20:30.57 | Neo|Other | goes to show that a successful 25 man guild still have stupid people |
| 20:31.03 | NivFreak | I got on the ptr, and had no problem in all t4 at the time |
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| 20:31.17 | Cryect | NivFreak, people were saying such foolish stuff forever |
| 20:31.27 | NivFreak | I know, but the shit for ZA cracked me up |
| 20:31.27 | Cryect | like complaints about black morass at TBC release |
| 20:31.31 | Neo|Other | ZA was hard but fully doable in kara gear |
| 20:31.31 | NivFreak | it was never very hard |
| 20:31.45 | Neo|Other | oh it was hard for karazhan level guilds |
| 20:31.46 | Cryect | and how they need to be in Kara but can't get past Black Morass |
| 20:31.47 | NivFreak | Cryect: heroic BM was a bit stupid, but still very doable |
| 20:31.48 | Neo|Other | no doubt |
| 20:31.52 | NivFreak | when that MS debuff would stack endlessly |
| 20:31.57 | Neo|Other | esp hexlord and zuljin |
| 20:32.05 | Cryect | Well I'm talking people who were complaining about Black MOrass to key to Karazhan |
| 20:32.11 | NivFreak | zuljin was only hard because of his 5 phases |
| 20:32.16 | Neo|Other | no |
| 20:32.17 | NivFreak | hex was only hard if you were stupid ;) |
| 20:32.24 | Neo|Other | zuljin was only hard because of his 3rd phase |
| 20:32.25 | NivFreak | Cryect: haha |
| 20:32.35 | Neo|Other | and I still highly dislike phase 3 |
| 20:32.37 | Cryect | The R&D forum was like half threads on that for a while |
| 20:32.38 | Neo|Other | it's just not very fun |
| 20:32.40 | NivFreak | Neo|Other: it's just the variety that got most people |
| 20:32.48 | NivFreak | phase 3 is obnoxious, but easy |
| 20:33.02 | NivFreak | can we say priest binding heal+PoM what? |
| 20:34.03 | Neo|Other | chain heal ftw for my hunter |
| 20:34.14 | Neo|Other | but we do bear run with alts now |
| 20:34.17 | NivFreak | yea |
| 20:34.19 | NivFreak | it's not bad |
| 20:34.21 | Neo|Other | I got a bear on my hunter and lock |
| 20:34.26 | NivFreak | just need to not make mistakes |
| 20:34.36 | Neo|Other | my hunter ftw |
| 20:34.39 | NivFreak | there are so many bears on my server, it's not even anything special anymore |
| 20:34.41 | Neo|Other | I did my first bear run in greens |
| 20:34.48 | Neo|Other | no epics, no instance blues, nothing |
| 20:34.57 | NivFreak | carried |
| 20:34.58 | NivFreak | :) |
| 20:35.03 | Neo|Other | now I have lots of ZA epics and the rest are the same blues and crap |
| 20:35.27 | Obelixprime | haha |
| 20:35.31 | Obelixprime | i'm selling bears for $5k |
| 20:35.34 | NivFreak | my bear group was running without me last week, one of thier tanks DC'd so I hopped into keep them moving |
| 20:35.36 | Obelixprime | err 5k gold |
| 20:35.38 | NivFreak | then a shadow priest DC'd |
| 20:35.43 | Neo|Other | we're considering 9kg |
| 20:35.44 | NivFreak | so we 9 manned from eagle to lyn |
| 20:35.45 | NivFreak | x |
| 20:35.48 | NivFreak | got a 10th back in |
| 20:35.51 | NivFreak | and he wiped us twice |
| 20:35.59 | NivFreak | and only missed the bear by 30 seconds... |
| 20:36.04 | Obelixprime | awww |
| 20:36.04 | NivFreak | that was a bit frustrating |
| 20:36.06 | Neo|Other | really, ZA timed isn't hard when you go with 2 healers, 2 good tanks and don't wipe (and skipp what you can) |
| 20:36.18 | NivFreak | yea, we have several different trash skip routes now |
| 20:36.21 | Obelixprime | do you guys know the shortcut for the lynx boss? |
| 20:36.30 | NivFreak | we do either the huts |
| 20:36.30 | Neo|Other | in a good group, not aqs good as we can (like no flasks or elixirs) we've had over 10 minutes left |
| 20:36.36 | NivFreak | or come down from the hex stairs and skip the two pats |
| 20:36.40 | NivFreak | and water walk |
| 20:36.51 | NivFreak | Neo|Other: we usually have 6-7 |
| 20:37.09 | Neo|Other | we skip past lynx trash - kill the pat with two crocs and stuff afer that |
| 20:37.18 | Neo|Other | I know we can skip that pat but not really worth it since it dies so fast |
| 20:37.19 | NivFreak | you can skip him |
| 20:37.24 | NivFreak | yea |
| 20:37.32 | NivFreak | if we do huts, we kill him usuall |
| 20:37.33 | NivFreak | y |
| 20:37.39 | NivFreak | if we pull from the hex side, we skip him |
| 20:37.47 | Neo|Other | but we usally go with 2-4 alts now |
| 20:39.14 | Obelixprime | we have asuch a hard time finding people for it |
| 20:39.14 | Obelixprime | its sad really |
| 20:39.16 | Obelixprime | if i'm not selling a bear non o fmy guildies are interested |
| 20:39.29 | Obelixprime | and when i'm not selling a bear people are still not interested |
| 20:40.45 | Obelixprime | being on a low pop server sucks |
| 20:44.47 | Obelixprime | is there an in game version of chardev.org? |
| 20:45.09 | NivFreak | Obelixprime: so transfer off the low pop server? :P |
| 20:46.36 | dodga | ahaha, man notalwaysright.com is teh evilness. i didn't get anything done since 2-3 hours :o |
| 20:47.37 | Ellipsis | so you felt like passing it on to us so we can be equally unproductive? :P |
| 20:48.18 | dodga | yes. |
| 20:48.25 | dodga | Especially you :> |
| 20:49.52 | Ellipsis | thanks |
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| 20:51.48 | dodga | You're welcome |
| 20:53.36 | Neo|Other | has been unproductive due to pondering the future of his guild. |
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| 21:06.02 | Obelixprime | Want to buy KJ death please |
| 21:06.42 | dodga | We're all out sir, I'm sorry. |
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| 21:09.24 | Obelixprime | shucks |
| 21:10.39 | Zynderps | wtb a reason to log back on after ragequitting out of a BT-raid |
| 21:11.50 | Gnarfoz | to delete your chars because you suck at temper? ^^ |
| 21:11.53 | dodga | if there were achievements ingame yet I'd say "farm reputation with stupid factions" or "collect all poke-err pets" |
| 21:12.12 | Zynderps | more like fed up with people |
| 21:12.47 | Aens|Superiority | Is there a mod similar to aloft, or an option in aloft that can make the name plate reactively change appearance if a mob gains a buff? |
| 21:13.55 | dodga | Aens|Superiority: Like scale it up 500%? Funny idea :> |
| 21:14.21 | Aens|Superiority | or change color |
| 21:14.27 | Aens|Superiority | or shake or anything |
| 21:14.42 | Aens|Superiority | mainly so for m'uru tanking, it is easier to see double flurry |
| 21:14.57 | dodga | I don't know of any, but messing with nameplates is not too much fun AFAIK |
| 21:17.51 | Gagorian | Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it's possible even |
| 21:18.22 | nevcairiel | you can change the style of nameplates |
| 21:18.24 | nevcairiel | Aloft did it |
| 21:18.50 | nevcairiel | but it was never fixed for 2.4 |
| 21:18.53 | nevcairiel | i think |
| 21:19.20 | dodga | Yeah but can it do so while in combat? |
| 21:19.44 | dodga | Hm, actually I think I saw it do that :o |
| 21:19.45 | Aens|Superiority | yeah. I'm looking for a way to identify buffs on mobs without having to select them |
| 21:20.10 | Aens|Superiority | like, alot of aloft's functions seem broken now. The cast bar hasn't been working right for me for a long time now |
| 21:23.49 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: ? you're wrong on that one |
| 21:23.57 | Gnarfoz | Aloft works on live, but not on beta |
| 21:24.08 | nevcairiel | some parts of aloft are still just broken |
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| 21:24.13 | Gnarfoz | like which? |
| 21:24.24 | nevcairiel | i think someone commented them out in the .toc to make it work or so |
| 21:24.30 | nevcairiel | its not been actively worked on for a long time |
| 21:24.32 | Gnarfoz | also, Aens|Superiority that's not possible |
| 21:24.53 | Gnarfoz | true, but it works flawlessly for me, so I'm curious which features I have disabled that are broken? :p |
| 21:25.02 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
| 21:25.04 | nevcairiel | i never used it |
| 21:25.06 | Gnarfoz | it *does* have a lot of modules |
| 21:25.07 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:25.10 | Harshmage | Anyone know if Inscription is active in the beta yet? |
| 21:25.28 | nevcairiel | Harshmage: kind of, doesnt have alot of recipes yet |
| 21:25.36 | nevcairiel | you can only get to skill 200 or so with the recipes |
| 21:25.40 | nevcairiel | or even lower |
| 21:25.42 | nevcairiel | dont remember exactly |
| 21:25.44 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: commenting out stuff was threat1 support ;) |
| 21:25.54 | Aens|Superiority | Gnarfoz: Thats too bad. Do you know of an alternative or another mod with similar functionality? The ability to visually warn the user that a mob in the vicinity has gained a buff without having targetted the mob? |
| 21:26.04 | Gnarfoz | WitchHunt? |
| 21:26.09 | Gnarfoz | any spellalert mob |
| 21:26.15 | Gnarfoz | *mod |
| 21:26.41 | Aens|Superiority | Does it work with stuff like muru side adds and their flurry buff? |
| 21:27.06 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 21:27.27 | Aens|Superiority | ok, i'll give it a try. Thanks. |
| 21:27.55 | dodga | it'll spam you though :> |
| 21:28.05 | Aens|Superiority | I just need it for one fight. |
| 21:28.18 | Aens|Superiority | that i have to respec for anyways so I got time to toggle it on/off |
| 21:28.26 | dodga | hehe |
| 21:28.45 | dodga | take a look at the ignore options then. it'll notify you for every spell that is cast |
| 21:29.09 | Neo|Other | so is it bad to have to call the SWP raid.. and sort of being happy not to have to raid it? |
| 21:29.15 | Neo|Other | ...as the guild/raid leader... |
| 21:29.25 | Gnarfoz | you're raiding sunwell |
| 21:29.27 | Neo|Other | I just realize it's gotten to that point :( |
| 21:29.28 | Gnarfoz | that's your answer. |
| 21:29.30 | nevcairiel | Neo|Other: I've had that |
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| 21:29.38 | nevcairiel | Neo|Other: played beta too much? |
| 21:30.04 | Gnarfoz | you're basically asking for it just by stepping foot in there with ambitions^^ |
| 21:30.37 | Aens|Superiority | sunwell can be very frustrating. pretty much every fight requires full raid discipline |
| 21:30.59 | Aens|Superiority | we've been wiping on muru for months now, its really straining the guild. |
| 21:31.14 | nevcairiel | We're on muru too, but only 2 weeks now |
| 21:31.19 | nevcairiel | really month without a kill? |
| 21:31.21 | Aens|Superiority | gotten like a dozen sub 10% wipes. |
| 21:31.27 | Aens|Superiority | on entropius |
| 21:31.35 | nevcairiel | man that sucks |
| 21:31.43 | Neo|Other | nevcairiel: sure I've played beta (71 lock, 67 DK) but it's not just that |
| 21:31.47 | nevcairiel | we would have to start canceling raids due to people not coming on anymore |
| 21:32.00 | Neo|Other | nevcairiel: it's also "oh now I can hack on Button Bin" or "now I don't have to spend the consumables wipoing on muru all night' |
| 21:32.21 | Neo|Other | nevcairiel: we've been on muru for 2 months |
| 21:32.25 | Aens|Superiority | attendance isn't an issue for us. Its just people are on a very short fuse. Myself included. |
| 21:32.26 | Ellipsis | no wonder your raid is having trouble, if half the people are feeling like that you're not gonna get anything done |
| 21:32.32 | Neo|Other | and our best so far is entropius to 65% |
| 21:32.32 | thul | spanks Ellipsis |
| 21:32.33 | nevcairiel | Neo|Other: i know that, i encountered a bug in some addon today, and i was kinda happy that i could sit out and fix it |
| 21:32.51 | nevcairiel | raiding gets so boring =P |
| 21:32.58 | Neo|Other | until the most recent month approximately I hadn't sat out on a single raid |
| 21:33.05 | Neo|Other | sicne the start of BC |
| 21:33.07 | Ellipsis | licks thul |
| 21:33.11 | thul | mmm ;-) |
| 21:33.23 | Neo|Other | now I try to sit out whenever I can but still need brutallus (and lock tank twins) |
| 21:34.06 | nevcairiel | Neo|Other: well if you're wiping for a long time without any obvious progress, plus the thought of the expansion not too far away .. that already killed progress in alot of guilds befoer BC |
| 21:34.07 | thul | I do _so_ agree that enhancement sucks in pvp btw |
| 21:34.14 | thul | mages, hunters, EVERYONE just kite me :-P |
| 21:34.15 | thul | fuuuck it. |
| 21:34.27 | nevcairiel | People where wiping on 4H like crazy |
| 21:34.30 | nevcairiel | and BC was close |
| 21:34.32 | Neo|Other | nevcairiel: yes |
| 21:34.35 | nevcairiel | so alot of guilds just quit |
| 21:34.38 | Neo|Other | nevcairiel: I know it |
| 21:34.49 | Neo|Other | also the other factor that makes me want to quit now is 10 man progression in LK |
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| 21:35.03 | Neo|Other | and avoiding the, pardon the french, fucking drama in class/role changes ppl want tod o |
| 21:35.13 | nevcairiel | oh yeah |
| 21:35.23 | nevcairiel | like half our healers want to change to something that does dps |
| 21:35.28 | Neo|Other | indeed |
| 21:35.29 | nevcairiel | half the other want to roll a DK |
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| 21:35.37 | Neo|Other | and we have probably 10 ppl that want to do DK |
| 21:36.05 | nevcairiel | we already said them, that there is no way in hell our roster will fit more then 3-4 DKs |
| 21:36.20 | nevcairiel | and we still need to fill the missing class spots |
| 21:36.27 | nevcairiel | maybe i really should do 10 mans |
| 21:36.31 | nevcairiel | and maybe with my warrior |
| 21:36.52 | Neo|Other | another thing that's killing my desire to do 25-man raiding is the "down times" |
| 21:36.54 | nevcairiel | tanking is so much more fun in smaller groups |
| 21:36.54 | dodga | Shadowpriest pew pew! :> |
| 21:36.58 | Aens|Superiority | Neo|Other: hey, be happy that its that. I dont even get to play my own character for most of sunwell. I frequently have to play the guild resto shaman on kalec felmyst and twins. I have to play another person's feral druid for muru cause they can't handle the adds. |
| 21:37.08 | Neo|Other | started back in SSC when we had a severe lack of healers, and has happened several times since |
| 21:37.21 | Neo|Other | when you lose so many ppl in a short period of time you can't replace them and have to do crap for raiding |
| 21:37.47 | Neo|Other | recruiting is very draining |
| 21:37.50 | nevcairiel | we had that |
| 21:37.54 | nevcairiel | three times during BC |
| 21:38.00 | nevcairiel | and we still exist |
| 21:38.02 | nevcairiel | for some reason |
| 21:38.09 | Neo|Other | heck another thing is I have stuff I want to do outside of WoW (coding projects and stuff) and can't because I don't have time between raiding and farming and stuff |
| 21:38.14 | Neo|Other | we have too |
| 21:38.20 | Neo|Other | started BC by losing half the guild |
| 21:38.34 | Neo|Other | like above and beyond ppl that left in general |
| 21:38.38 | Neo|Other | down to maybe 15-20 ppl |
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| 21:38.52 | Neo|Other | we've bounced back from a lot |
| 21:38.59 | Neo|Other | SWP has been more of a continuous loss of ppl |
| 21:39.04 | nevcairiel | We kinda were server #1 before BC |
| 21:39.10 | Gnarfoz | that's what SWP is, sadly ;) |
| 21:39.10 | nevcairiel | On BC we didnt get the first of gruul |
| 21:39.19 | nevcairiel | like 5 of our best people left |
| 21:39.20 | Gnarfoz | I was outvoted, sadly :< |
| 21:39.25 | Gnarfoz | I wanted to not go to SWP ^^ |
| 21:39.39 | nevcairiel | that already set us back alot |
| 21:39.53 | nevcairiel | one of those was our MT, and like 2 real good healers |
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| 21:40.38 | nevcairiel | Now that i think of it |
| 21:40.43 | nevcairiel | I would probably miss 25 content |
| 21:40.49 | nevcairiel | but maybe not that much |
| 21:40.51 | Neo|Other | I'd miss it |
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| 21:41.07 | nevcairiel | I hope the 10 man is challenging |
| 21:41.09 | Neo|Other | but the benefit of playing with a small group of good people, playing two characters and not have to deal with the crap might make up for it |
| 21:41.10 | nevcairiel | and not like kara |
| 21:41.26 | Neo|Other | plus the option to reform a 25-man raiding guild is theer |
| 21:41.33 | Neo|Other | not like I haven't recruited from 10 man to 25 man before |
| 21:41.46 | Zynderps | "We will be taking down the Beta realms at 2:30PM Pacific time today August 21th 2008 to update to the latest build." |
| 21:41.48 | Zynderps | ;o |
| 21:41.51 | nevcairiel | yay |
| 21:41.54 | nevcairiel | and meh |
| 21:41.59 | nevcairiel | i wanted to get to 77 before that |
| 21:42.09 | nevcairiel | because they said they want to bump to 80 |
| 21:42.14 | Gnarfoz | ~time |
| 21:42.15 | purl | 2008.08.21 21:42:15 GMT |
| 21:42.22 | Gnarfoz | ~time PDT |
| 21:42.32 | Gnarfoz | :X |
| 21:42.48 | nevcairiel | its in 45 minutes, iirc |
| 21:43.42 | nevcairiel | or even was 10 minutes ago? |
| 21:44.11 | nevcairiel | I think it was =P |
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| 21:44.51 | Neo|Other | it's 14:44 atm |
| 21:44.56 | Neo|Other | so 15m ago |
| 21:45.09 | nevcairiel | ya servers are gone |
| 21:45.12 | nevcairiel | no patch up yet |
| 21:45.15 | nevcairiel | so perfect time for sleeping |
| 21:45.18 | nevcairiel | waves |
| 21:45.29 | Groktar | it just went down about 30 second ago |
| 21:46.51 | nevcairiel | Neo|Other: whatever i'll raid with my main, i'm glad my warrior alt can enjoy all those dungeons in 10mans too, so thats already something to look forward to =) |
| 21:46.55 | nevcairiel | really leaves now |
| 21:47.43 | dodga | really? |
| 21:51.14 | Groktar | "One change we made recently is baking in the old bonus from Blessing of Salvation into tanking forms. " so does that mean they're upping the 145% modifier? |
| 21:51.27 | Xelopheris | yes |
| 21:51.49 | Groktar | i wish they would have done that at the beginning of TBC |
| 21:51.54 | Xelopheris | If it's going to be as it was before, it'll be around 200% threat |
| 21:52.16 | Xelopheris | imagine wow 1.0 for horde if we weren't threat capped all the time >.> |
| 21:52.43 | Xelopheris | Nothing fun about speccing for threat reduction, whining for tranq air, and then still being threat capped in tier 2 |
| 21:53.27 | Megalon | the days when vaelastrasz was fun :P |
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| 21:55.44 | Groktar | i just remember that in the 1.0 days i could spec fury and sunderspam |
| 21:55.53 | Groktar | and still hold aggro |
| 21:55.54 | NivFreak | as did most "tanks" |
| 21:56.10 | NivFreak | they made warrior tanking require prot in tbc really |
| 21:56.15 | Groktar | yeah |
| 21:56.22 | Groktar | horrible, horrible idea |
| 21:56.44 | Groktar | i really have been turned off to 5 mans in tbc |
| 21:56.49 | Groktar | at least tanking them |
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| 21:57.24 | Groktar | working 5x harder than the other 4 people there just isn't fun |
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| 22:08.38 | thul | lightningstrike, 30 meters from me |
| 22:08.45 | thul | omfg |
| 22:08.52 | Odlaw | bah, that's too far |
| 22:08.58 | Odlaw | try 3m |
| 22:09.11 | Fisker- | try 0m |
| 22:09.22 | Odlaw | just outside my door once.. wow.. fucking loud |
| 22:09.37 | thul | satan |
| 22:09.47 | Fisker- | try -100m then |
| 22:09.48 | thul | well, I don't know how far it was, it was like, lightning BOOOM, no timelapse at all |
| 22:09.56 | thul | and it was... satan |
| 22:11.56 | thul | my ears are actually hurting |
| 22:13.14 | dodga | So you can't use drums for like 2 minutes? :> |
| 22:14.33 | Odlaw | if it was that loud, maybe you ruptured your tympanic membrane. |
| 22:14.48 | Odlaw | could lead to hearing damage or deafness |
| 22:14.54 | thul | I hope not :-P |
| 22:14.55 | thul | it was just insane |
| 22:15.11 | Fisker- | that's not live until wotlk dodga :P |
| 22:15.15 | Odlaw | guess it depends on how close you were |
| 22:15.30 | thul | I would guess 20-100 meters. |
| 22:15.39 | dodga | Oh I see |
| 22:15.47 | thul | my head hurts and my ears hurt :-P |
| 22:15.55 | dodga | So thul is on a private server? :> |
| 22:15.58 | thul | all the cars in the surronding areas have alarms :-P |
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| 22:16.05 | thul | dodga: hmm? :-P |
| 22:16.19 | dodga | Don't mind me, I'm just trolling :> |
| 22:17.01 | thul | haha, ok. |
| 22:18.52 | Tentacled | hmm... ckknight, what's your opinion on how addons should interact with Cartographer3? Cooperation with C2 used to be just plugging into Rock and the suppliec Ace libs - now that C3 uses no Ace (as I understand), what's the best approach so as not to do things, well, rectum-bound? (goal: my addon supplies note data for C2, I'd like it to work with C3 as it did with C2, wishfully thinking :P) |
| 22:19.05 | Tentacled | supplied* |
| 22:19.10 | ckknight | mmm... rectum |
| 22:19.16 | Corgan | rectum. |
| 22:19.18 | Ellipsis | that's all you got out of that? |
| 22:19.22 | ckknight | yep, Ellipsis |
| 22:19.26 | Ellipsis | one-track mind, I swear :P |
| 22:19.34 | ckknight | gives Ellipsis a rim-job |
| 22:19.36 | Tentacled | (and on a reverse gear) |
| 22:19.40 | Ellipsis | w00t |
| 22:19.43 | Corgan | reverse gear rectum |
| 22:20.19 | dodga | Okay I didn't want to post this, but now I'm sure I have to: http://img1.abload.de/img/cockgoeswhere0hu.jpg |
| 22:20.28 | ckknight | Tentacled: okay then, Cart3 does have a user-supplied notes system, and it also has an instance note system (both handled differently). What notes does yours provide? |
| 22:20.33 | thul | ok, now it was about 80 meters away |
| 22:20.34 | thul | great :-P |
| 22:21.00 | thul | the house is actually shaking |
| 22:21.01 | thul | jhu |
| 22:21.08 | Corgan | cock doesn't go in leg. |
| 22:21.11 | dodga | "brb tornado"? :> |
| 22:21.21 | dodga | Corgan: Funny, friend of mine said the same on icq :> |
| 22:21.53 | Industrial | Corgan: what if you have the sexy leg |
| 22:22.00 | Ellipsis | sex leg. |
| 22:22.05 | Ellipsis | get it right, Industrial |
| 22:22.27 | Tentacled | ckknight: With Cart2, it used to Cartographer_Notes:RegisterNotesDatabase and keep updating it. Now Cartographer3_Notes has only a local Cartographer3_Notes... Is there something very specific I should know of..? |
| 22:22.30 | Industrial | I am sorry. I will not fail you again my queen *bow* |
| 22:22.42 | Ellipsis | good. |
| 22:22.53 | dodga | Oh, we bow to Ellipsis now? I didn't get any memo |
| 22:23.09 | Ellipsis | that's nothing new |
| 22:23.10 | ckknight | Tentacled: oh, well, it creates Cartographer3.Notes and _G.Cartographer3_Notes automatically, though I'm not sure that'd be the best way to handle it |
| 22:23.18 | ckknight | Tentacled: also, answer my question :-P |
| 22:24.27 | Tentacled | ckknight: I'm sorry, I thought the bit about registering its database answered it. It provides questing areas mapnotes, from its own database, refreshing according to user's questlog changes. |
| 22:25.25 | ckknight | Tentacled: k, the way I had thought it to work was basically by you creating your own notes and such, on a module-by-module basis. Check out the InstanceNotes module for reference |
| 22:26.41 | Tentacled | ckknight: that's how is used to work in Cart2, concept-wise, as well, or am I failing to see a change here? |
| 22:26.57 | ckknight | they are two very different projects |
| 22:27.21 | Tentacled | I know, just trying to grasp the basic ideas. |
| 22:27.45 | ckknight | basically, you make a bunch of frames that represent your POIs, you call Cartographer3.AddPOI on each new one |
| 22:27.52 | ckknight | you position them using the APIs provided |
| 22:28.00 | ckknight | for an example of this, see InstanceNotes, as I said |
| 22:28.04 | Tentacled | frames? Not just a database of coordinates anymore? |
| 22:28.09 | ckknight | no |
| 22:28.12 | Tentacled | ouchie. |
| 22:28.32 | ckknight | it's not as painful as you think |
| 22:28.41 | ckknight | I might make a generic system later |
| 22:28.42 | ckknight | but not now |
| 22:29.22 | Tentacled | Okay, will investigate instancepois... hmm. |
| 22:29.50 | Tentacled | I seem to have asked this already, but don't recall the answer... Is Cartographer2 going to be functional in WotLK beta, or is Cart3 your main focus now? |
| 22:30.14 | ckknight | Cart3's my main focus, but Cart2 will be working by WoW 3.0 launch |
| 22:30.30 | ckknight | I've yet to mess with it in WotLK |
| 22:30.52 | Tentacled | I'm guessing Cart3 isn't quite a clean Cart2 replacement... or just not yet? |
| 22:31.06 | ckknight | well, mostly 3rd party modules are missing |
| 22:31.16 | ckknight | the main cart2 module it's missing is a loot dealy |
| 22:31.35 | ckknight | not sure about non-third-party modules |
| 22:31.42 | ckknight | oh, I suppose a gatherer-style dealy isn't done yet |
| 22:33.00 | Tentacled | I'm just wondering whether I should definitely move on to Cart3, if it's a natural move for the users as well, or should I happily stay with Cart2 if I'm comfortable with it, if there'll be no big rush to abandon it and move up to 3. |
| 22:34.07 | Primer | Anyone know of an addon (or if it's even possible) that shows the direction of an ally relative to where you are? The presumption being that he's within your combat log range |
| 22:34.58 | Primer | One of the issues that I run into when healing raids is that I don't know what direction a person is when they're outside my healing range. |
| 22:35.05 | dodga | Primer: I guess it would be possible if the player is in your raid/party |
| 22:35.26 | Primer | Doesn't the combat log have that info? |
| 22:35.29 | Ellipsis | no |
| 22:35.31 | dodga | Though I don't know ad-hoc how to retrieve the coordinates of a player in your group |
| 22:35.42 | Tentacled | Primer: ... and seems like a combo of Waypoints and some player-coord-retrieval thing... |
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| 22:36.09 | dodga | And you'd need to pound it into tomtom or something that draws an arrow |
| 22:36.10 | Primer | I was reading about an addon that people have been using to triangulate opposing faction player positions |
| 22:36.41 | dodga | eheh triangulate? that's a bit much for just a game. creative though :D |
| 22:36.44 | balstor | doesn't ora / ctraid have a way to query a persons cordinates? |
| 22:36.47 | ckknight | Tentacled: basically: Cart2 will not be improved from now on, it will be maintained. If you're happy with that, that's fine, I don't want to push people off it, I'd rather pull people to something better |
| 22:37.11 | Obelixprime | Do you want to push people off cliffs ckknight? |
| 22:37.25 | Primer | Can cart2 be improved so that it doesn't eat my Astrolabe.PlaceIconOnMap() ? |
| 22:37.35 | Primer | runs |
| 22:37.41 | Ellipsis | Primer: the only way to get accurate coordinates is through API for player/party/raid only |
| 22:38.01 | ckknight | Primer: sure, you got a patch? |
| 22:38.04 | Ellipsis | which should be enough for your raid healing issue |
| 22:38.17 | Primer | Ellipsis: That's fine. The presumption will be that the people will be in the same party/raid |
| 22:38.28 | Primer | as long as it doesn't require that they install the same addon |
| 22:38.33 | Ellipsis | nope |
| 22:38.40 | dodga | Primer: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetPlayerMapPosition |
| 22:38.43 | Primer | ckknight: touché |
| 22:39.00 | Ellipsis | the only problem I see is displaying 24 different directions on the screen in a way that doesn't confuse the heck out of you :P |
| 22:39.06 | Primer | dodga: so would this work in an instance though? |
| 22:39.19 | Ellipsis | in theory, wotlk will allow instance coords |
| 22:39.21 | Pneumatus | anyone know where bugs/mistakes in PT should get sent? |
| 22:39.23 | Ellipsis | but until then, not at all |
| 22:39.28 | dodga | Primer: I'd say no. But somehow the minimap is rendered, too. |
| 22:39.39 | dodga | And the minimap has directions to your group mates |
| 22:39.46 | Primer | Ellipsis: My goal is the following: When pitbull shows a faded unit frame (outside of my reach), I want to right click it, and get an arrow. |
| 22:39.47 | Tentacled | ckknight: maintaining is good enough for a while. For the far run - will Cart3, given time, support more or less what Cart2 supports now? Easy icon and mapnote database registering, mainly. I'm also missing its ready-shipped Rock or ACE stuff, but I'll likely just clone these into my libs/ or something. |
| 22:39.53 | Stanzilla | Pneumatus: nymbia, because he runs the dataminer afaik |
| 22:40.00 | Ellipsis | Primer: that could work |
| 22:40.33 | ckknight | Tentacled: for one, Rock/Ace stuff is unnecessary, for two, yes, I will provide an easy way to register arbitrary notes databases eventually, but you have to do something for me first |
| 22:40.34 | Tentacled | Ellipsis: mini arrows instead of party/raidmember icons could do the trick :) |
| 22:40.38 | Pneumatus | rgr, just noticed some reputation values are incorrect in PT-Reuputation |
| 22:40.39 | Primer | I think some like this would be invaluable in 25 man raids, and AV |
| 22:40.51 | Ellipsis | Tentacled: but it's just data overload |
| 22:40.55 | ckknight | Tentacled: you have to file a ticket requesting a way to register notes databases |
| 22:41.02 | dodga | Primer: It would be better to /w <playername> dont run out of healing range ffs!!1 :> |
| 22:41.11 | Ellipsis | I dunno about you but my brain can't interpret 24 different arrows into "I should probably head in this general direction" very quickly |
| 22:41.14 | Tentacled | ckknight: Ace is nice for command line and options, unless you have something better up your sleeve :) |
| 22:41.21 | ckknight | Tentacled: I do... |
| 22:41.39 | ckknight | Tentacled: you haven't seen what Cart3 uses for options? |
| 22:41.40 | Primer | dodga: Not always feasible, especially in Hyjal, where we split up for some waves |
| 22:41.54 | dodga | Primer: Don't you have assignments? |
| 22:42.07 | Primer | Yes, but when the shit hits the fan, you got to be able to recover |
| 22:42.09 | Tentacled | ckknight: I have, just haven't taken a look from inside out yet. :) |
| 22:42.12 | ckknight | Tentacled: in any event, make a ticket on the cartographer3 project on curseforge |
| 22:42.18 | ckknight | Tentacled: well, have you sen it ingame? |
| 22:42.21 | ckknight | seen* |
| 22:42.35 | dodga | Primer: True :D |
| 22:42.46 | Primer | besides, I really want this for AV |
| 22:42.47 | Tentacled | ckknight: naturally. It seemed similar enough. |
| 22:42.59 | ckknight | Tentacled: yea, it uses LibSimpleOptions-1.0 |
| 22:43.12 | ckknight | which I also wrote |
| 22:43.14 | thul | spanks ckknight |
| 22:43.19 | ckknight | no, thul |
| 22:43.20 | dodga | Primer: Interesting idea at least. I'd probably do it as keybinding that sets the Waypoint arrow to the coordinates returned by GetPlayerMapPosition |
| 22:43.29 | ckknight | I spank, not the other way around |
| 22:43.33 | Primer | as a start, sure |
| 22:43.33 | thul | ckknight:( |
| 22:43.37 | thul | spanks Pkekyo| |
| 22:44.05 | Primer | bah, it says right there it doesn't work inside of instances |
| 22:44.07 | Primer | crap |
| 22:44.21 | dodga | Primer: But as Mistress Ellipsis said - no worky in instances before WotLK |
| 22:44.30 | Ellipsis | pats dodga |
| 22:44.39 | Primer | So they've confirmed that for WotLK? |
| 22:44.40 | Chompers | oh my, new beta version |
| 22:44.40 | Chompers | woo |
| 22:45.28 | Primer | ok wait, you can see players on the map in AV |
| 22:45.33 | dodga | Chompers: gief ze patch notes |
| 22:45.37 | Primer | I guess I could do this just for AV for now |
| 22:45.54 | dodga | Primer: For battlegrounds there are different functions |
| 22:46.48 | dodga | Primer: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetBattlefieldPosition |
| 22:46.59 | Primer | Can one overload a click handler for unit frames in a pitbull plugin? |
| 22:47.01 | Chompers | ill get the notes when others do |
| 22:47.13 | Primer | i.e. make the default run, then have mine run? |
| 22:47.29 | Ellipsis | pitbull doesn't do anything on right click by default |
| 22:47.40 | Ellipsis | you can just replace the action like click-casting addons do |
| 22:47.43 | dodga | Didn't it open the options frame for some time? |
| 22:47.45 | ckknight | Primer: use Clique or whatever |
| 22:47.58 | Ellipsis | dodga: options frame only opens with modified right-click now |
| 22:48.01 | dodga | I dunno, I use Clique for quite some time |
| 22:48.04 | Primer | ckknight: ahh good idea |
| 22:48.27 | dodga | Ellipsis: I see |
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| 22:50.47 | Tentacled | ckknight: oh. And it sits neatly in the Blizz-provided Addons tab. Dammit, that's enticing. |
| 22:51.06 | Primer | dammit, I've just created another time-sink for myself... |
| 22:51.16 | Primer | as if one half-finished addon wasn't enough |
| 22:52.26 | Primer | ok, so say I want to overload the unit frame right click menu in a pitbull plugin to just have it spit out some text. Extremely simple? 10 lines of code? |
| 22:52.43 | Primer | Just trying to get a feel for the task at hand |
| 22:53.19 | dodga | Uuh I haz login to Curse |
| 22:54.24 | dodga | Back in the old days(tm) one would simply hook the frames OnClick handler :o |
| 22:54.41 | dodga | but nowadays it's all that secure-hooking crap and whatnot |
| 22:55.09 | Primer | so the frame itself is no different from the default frame? |
| 22:55.53 | dodga | Hm, I don't know how Pitbull creates its frames, but I guess you can find them through the scripting engine |
| 22:56.07 | dodga | Maybe Pitbull has some API for that, too |
| 22:56.12 | Primer | right...I can dump what's under the cursor |
| 22:56.23 | Primer | I forget what that command is though |
| 22:56.39 | dodga | GetMouseFocus():GetFrameName() or something like that |
| 22:56.50 | Ellipsis | tbh I recommend looking at clique or similar to get an idea of how you'll be overriding clicks |
| 22:57.49 | dodga | Yeah would be easier. IIRC Clique can run arbitrary Lua commands. So just put the "lookup coords and create arrow" in some addon, load it, and put that into Cliques options for the click |
| 22:58.39 | dodga | So if I add my 2 year old still working addon to CurseForge I'll get a beta key? :> |
| 22:58.53 | Primer | So I can assing "right click on any raid unit frame" to a single action with clique? |
| 22:58.54 | ckknight | dodga: just make sure the TOC's up to date |
| 22:59.17 | dodga | Will do. But everyone here will be laughing at my code :/ |
| 22:59.27 | Primer | dodga: can't be any worse than mine! :) |
| 22:59.32 | Ellipsis | nobody will bother reading it most likely :P |
| 22:59.41 | Ellipsis | unless it's a particularly interesting concept or you advertise it about |
| 22:59.43 | Primer | Although, I must pat myself in the back...my addon is quite cool...IMO! |
| 23:00.33 | dodga | Primer: It's back from the days when there was world PvP in Classic |
| 23:00.51 | dodga | It just prints out the name of your target along with guild, health, mana and location :D |
| 23:02.12 | dodga | It was also coupled to some blacklist/kill on sight thingie I wrote so it would do it automatically when you mouseover somebody on KoS or if anyone appeared in your combat log |
| 23:02.38 | Primer | ahh |
| 23:03.06 | dodga | last line in changelog.txt... "updated to WoW 1.9" :> |
| 23:03.13 | PProvost|work | What's the recommended clock provider for LDB? I'm only finding the old one. |
| 23:04.47 | PProvost|work | nvm... I think I found it |
| 23:04.48 | PProvost|work | Sorry |
| 23:05.21 | dodga | Do tell. Don't leave us in the dark! :> |
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| 23:05.37 | Adirelle | ckknight: pitbull has been fixed for wotlk ? I read that the aura module should be disabled, but I haven't and it works fine... |
| 23:06.15 | ckknight | no, I fixed it |
| 23:06.23 | dodga | ~toc |
| 23:06.23 | purl | the current WoW Interface Number is : 20300 |
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| 23:06.42 | Adirelle | no magic then, that's disappointing :) thanks |
| 23:06.46 | ckknight | no, purl, toc is <reply>the current WoW Interface Number is : 20400 - beta is 30000 |
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| 23:16.25 | Adirelle | night |
| 23:16.56 | Chompers | ~toc |
| 23:16.56 | purl | the current WoW Interface Number is : 20300 |
| 23:17.30 | Corgan | purl, no, toc is <reply>the current WoW Interface Number is : 20400 - beta is 30000 |
| 23:17.31 | purl | Corgan: okay |
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| 23:24.35 | dodga | Or not.. |
| 23:25.54 | dodga | Hm, not a minute ago there was "manage descriptions" :o where'd it go? |
| 23:26.52 | CIA-47 | 03ominous * r80773 10ClassTimer/Locales/zhTW.lua: ClassTimer: Add zhTW patch - thanks NightOwl |
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| 23:33.01 | CIA-47 | FuBar_MicroMenuFu: |
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| 23:42.51 | dodga | How come the link to the markup help on upload-image is not clickable? :o |
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| 23:57.00 | Mike-N-Go | Hi there. Can anyone tell me where I can find http://files.wowace.com/, but for the WOTLK beta? I have poked around wowace.com, yet to no avail. |
| 23:57.45 | dodga | AFAIK there is no such thing for the WotLK branches. You need to pull the stuff from SVN directly |
| 23:57.58 | Mike-N-Go | Oh, okay. |
| 23:58.33 | Mike-N-Go | Is there any tag or way to know if it is beta-compatable, other then looking at the .toc number? |
| 23:59.45 | dodga | Hm for the stuff on files I guess you could look through the forum, IIRC there is a post with information on working/broken addons |
