| 00:00.35 | selckin | whoever invented personal questions with password recovery should be shot |
| 00:01.40 | Antiarc | They're not even protective |
| 00:02.04 | Antiarc | Because seriously, the high school I went to would not be hard to figure out |
| 00:02.11 | Pkekyo| | anyone seen Tears of the Sun? |
| 00:02.13 | Antiarc | If someone REALLY wanted to |
| 00:02.13 | CIA-46 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80703 10Prat/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:02.14 | CIA-46 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 00:02.14 | CIA-46 | Improvements to options menus. |
| 00:02.26 | selckin | thats why i wannts put 50 + random chars in |
| 00:02.29 | selckin | then they ask me for it |
| 00:02.34 | selckin | and i cry |
| 00:02.36 | selckin | :p |
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| 00:06.16 | CIA-46 | 03Mera_LaCroisadeEcarlate * r80704 10EasyDND/EasyDND.lua: |
| 00:06.16 | CIA-46 | EasyDND: |
| 00:06.16 | CIA-46 | -temp patch for wow client bug http://tinyurl.com/dndbug (bug id#3 on curseforge) |
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| 00:20.44 | Xelopheris | grr grr grr, anyone use eclipse by chance? |
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| 00:23.24 | Pkekyo| | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5383591666&sid=1 /shrug |
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| 00:23.48 | Ikz | Greetings all. Is there a mod that will give me some sort of audio or visual cue if my pet is currently attacking the target I'm casting polymorph upon? |
| 00:24.50 | orionshock | not that i know of... |
| 00:25.03 | orionshock | wouldn't be that hard to make one tho |
| 00:25.12 | Pkekyo| | just use a Focus target frame and use focus on your pet |
| 00:25.24 | Ikz | I use focus frame for resheeping. |
| 00:26.11 | Ikz | I have a pet's target window. It'd be easier to get an audio/visual cue though. |
| 00:26.13 | Camci | http://i36.tinypic.com/nbsw1g.jpg |
| 00:26.17 | Camci | lulz |
| 00:26.26 | Pkekyo| | Camci: ODL |
| 00:26.49 | Camci | damn |
| 00:26.55 | Camci | im always late :( |
| 00:27.23 | Ikz | orion: Seven bucks paypal if you make one? |
| 00:28.58 | orionshock | i can make one in my sleep :P |
| 00:29.32 | Ikz | Uhhhhhh so yes then? |
| 00:29.50 | orionshock | grr |
| 00:29.55 | orionshock | let me get to a safe spot |
| 00:32.22 | orionshock | ok, casting ploymorph, sound off when it's the same target as focus right? |
| 00:32.26 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.28 | CIA-46 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80705 10Prat/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:32.28 | CIA-46 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 00:32.28 | CIA-46 | Various fixes. |
| 00:32.59 | Ikz | When I start casting polymorph, if my polymorph target matches the target of my pet. |
| 00:33.20 | Ikz | so if my pet is attacking my focus and I'm sheeping my focus, it goes off. Or if my pet is attacking my target and I'm sheeping my target. |
| 00:34.42 | Ikz | I had a major issue yesterday when I broke my own sheep twice due to waterbolt and lots of target swapping. |
| 00:35.41 | orionshock | find me the name of the event that fires off when the spell starts.. |
| 00:36.37 | thul | where can one get s1 stuff? |
| 00:37.22 | Ikz | How would I do that? |
| 00:37.39 | Ikz | The combat log? |
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| 00:38.57 | Ikz | Name begins casting Polymorph. |
| 00:39.26 | Ikz | Rank doesn't seem to matter. |
| 00:40.10 | Ikz | Or do you mean a different event? |
| 00:42.39 | Ikz | thul: You can't anymore, it's no longer in the game |
| 00:42.56 | Ikz | If you didn't get it before, that is. |
| 00:43.07 | orionshock | someone tell me there is a combat log event for Spellcast start? |
| 00:43.09 | orionshock | i can't find it.. |
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| 00:43.28 | Ikz | Name begins casting Polymorph. <-- Is this not it? |
| 00:45.18 | Ikz | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Spell <-- is "SPELLCAST_START" it? |
| 00:45.28 | Ikz | No wait it says removed in 2.0.. |
| 00:46.16 | orionshock | ... |
| 00:46.20 | Ikz | "UNIT_SPELLCAST_START" |
| 00:46.23 | orionshock | Ikz: ... |
| 00:46.23 | Ikz | Is that it? |
| 00:47.27 | Ikz | What? |
| 00:47.45 | thul | Ikz: w000t? :-) ok |
| 00:47.52 | thul | so I have to get s2 gear? :/ |
| 00:47.55 | thul | that cost so much honor :-( |
| 00:47.56 | thul | buuu |
| 00:48.02 | Ikz | Yeah you have to get s2 gear |
| 00:48.10 | Ikz | or the blue set |
| 00:48.39 | thul | buu :-P |
| 00:48.53 | thul | I guess I have to find something other to have fun with |
| 00:48.58 | buu | OH GOD WHERE |
| 00:49.18 | Ellipsis | licks buu |
| 00:49.21 | CIA-46 | 03phanx * r80706 10!StopTheSpam/: |
| 00:49.21 | CIA-46 | !StopTheSpam: |
| 00:49.21 | CIA-46 | - Removing as per Malreth's request: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14739.msg237938#msg237938 |
| 00:49.21 | CIA-46 | - Current versions available on WoWInterface. |
| 00:49.32 | buu | spell locks Ellipsis |
| 00:49.36 | thul | licks Ellipsis |
| 00:49.42 | Ellipsis | oh snap |
| 00:49.43 | Industrial | spell licks Ellipsis |
| 00:49.44 | Industrial | no! |
| 00:49.49 | Industrial | thul wins :( |
| 00:50.00 | buu | Dangerously overweight children will have to be taken from their parents and put into care because of Britain's worsening "obesity epidemic", council leaders have warned. |
| 00:50.51 | Industrial | buu: dont feed me :< im trying to be buzy here |
| 00:50.54 | Fionntan | Is it possible to target an enemy player out of combat by name with an API call? |
| 00:50.55 | buu | But ministers do not want the word "obese" to be used in the letters after research showed people find it "highly offensive". |
| 00:50.58 | Ellipsis | it's ok Industrial, you've won my heart |
| 00:51.07 | Industrial | huggles Ellipsis |
| 00:51.14 | buu | Fionntan: proximo seems to manage it. |
| 00:51.16 | Ellipsis | ^_^ |
| 00:51.28 | Industrial | buu: I find obesity highly offensive |
| 00:51.37 | Industrial | buu: at least in my general surrounding. |
| 00:51.56 | Industrial | crazy people twisting things around |
| 00:51.57 | Industrial | :p |
| 00:53.01 | thul | hmm, as a fresh 70 enhancement, which fist should I go for while waiting for 18k honor? :-P |
| 00:53.05 | jaxdahl | Fionntan, all targeting functions are protected -- can only be initiated by hardware events |
| 00:53.50 | DARKGuy | buu: "obese" being "highly offensive" ?? ... well, ok, let's use the term "fat". |
| 00:54.08 | jaxdahl | can't even do TargetUnit("unit") |
| 00:54.25 | Dark_Elf | found an Orb, now which class uses orbs? |
| 00:54.54 | Ellipsis | Fionntan: set a secure button's macro text to "/target NameHere" and then the user can click it to target |
| 00:55.31 | Industrial | thul: big bad wolf's paw from kara |
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| 00:55.44 | Industrial | and/or the axe from prince, you can dual wield it |
| 00:56.22 | fewyn | dodododo |
| 00:56.25 | fewyn | northrend world server down! |
| 00:56.27 | thul | then I would have to get a guild and run kara:p |
| 00:56.34 | Ellipsis | welcome to beta fewyn ;) |
| 00:57.00 | NivFreak | fewyn: that's like every 20 mins |
| 00:57.18 | thul | hmm, aren't there some sexy mh honor badge fist? :-P |
| 00:58.18 | orionshock | Ikz: im still working |
| 00:58.26 | Ikz | OK. |
| 00:58.36 | orionshock | anyone know if SPELL_CAST_START has a destGUID in it? |
| 00:58.42 | fewyn | :D |
| 00:58.51 | fewyn | i've been leveling fine the last few hous though :( |
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| 01:02.09 | orionshock | Ikz: http://ace.pastey.net/94210 |
| 01:02.12 | orionshock | good luck :D |
| 01:02.30 | Ikz | Where do I include/change the sound? |
| 01:02.33 | thul | ah, found them.. 150 badges or 12k honor, what is easiest? :-P |
| 01:02.42 | orionshock | line 34 |
| 01:03.18 | Ikz | I see. What would I change to make it play a sound instead of show a message? |
| 01:04.03 | orionshock | ~wowapi PlaySound |
| 01:04.17 | Mera | 12k is fastest thul , a full day of pvp is enough |
| 01:04.22 | Ikz | Alright thanks let me go test it |
| 01:04.40 | orionshock | i give it a 50/50 chance of actualy working |
| 01:04.48 | Ellipsis | I give it about 20% |
| 01:04.50 | Ellipsis | ;P |
| 01:05.06 | NivFreak | fewyn: I had constant crashes/rollbacks each day |
| 01:05.10 | orionshock | well considering it was made on the fly, and i didn't even load it into the game... prolly :\ |
| 01:05.13 | NivFreak | the fun part is how they end up out of sync |
| 01:05.15 | Ellipsis | that's only because it's so overcomplicated that I can't be bothered to figure out whether it actually works |
| 01:05.24 | NivFreak | I'd have quest rewards in my bag, but the quest still in my log |
| 01:05.32 | NivFreak | so I could turn it in for a second reward |
| 01:05.40 | thul | Mera: hmm, ok. Good point. How long time does it take to get badges? if one does heroic daily 1-3 times pr week? |
| 01:05.43 | thul | 5 pr instance average? |
| 01:05.46 | NivFreak | too bad that didn't happen with weapon quests ;) |
| 01:06.02 | orionshock | Ellipsis: it's a familiar ace1 event handler with a wraped combat log event handler, it's a bit over kill, but it's a standard start off with me :D |
| 01:07.09 | Ellipsis | you should rethink your standard start off. |
| 01:07.10 | Mera | dont really know with badges but i think around one month for 150 badges |
| 01:08.02 | Ikz | Okay I got no message orion |
| 01:08.02 | Ellipsis | :D |
| 01:08.09 | Mera | i have all the honnor sets took me around 3weeks a months to have all around 200k honnor |
| 01:08.45 | orionshock | Ikz: well then.. aparently the destGUID dosn't fire in that event :9 |
| 01:08.47 | orionshock | :( |
| 01:09.30 | Ikz | Oh. So what now? |
| 01:09.30 | Mera | exchanging bg marks for honnor helps so |
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| 01:10.09 | orionshock | now we got to use weird fuckery to make it work... |
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| 01:10.50 | Groktar | gotta love atiesh |
| 01:10.54 | Groktar | mage: table going down |
| 01:11.17 | Ikz | It was a portal wasn't it |
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| 01:18.55 | orionshock | Ikz: try this one http://ace.pastey.net/94214 |
| 01:18.58 | orionshock | tell me what it says |
| 01:20.46 | orionshock | should say alot btw.. |
| 01:23.01 | Ikz | k |
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| 01:24.22 | Ikz | Didn't say anything, let me try restarting my game since that was but a humble reloadui |
| 01:25.13 | orionshock | wonders if ikz is loading it right... |
| 01:25.20 | Ikz | Nothing. |
| 01:25.30 | Ellipsis | it should spam you every time anything happens in your combat log |
| 01:25.42 | orionshock | exactly, was a sanity check... |
| 01:26.00 | orionshock | so either it's not being loaded right or i have a spelling mistake somewhere... |
| 01:26.12 | Ellipsis | both equally likely |
| 01:26.14 | Ikz | It might not be loading right. |
| 01:26.26 | orionshock | Ellipsis: your not helping me :P |
| 01:26.31 | Ikz | I know I gave it a toc. It's listed in the addons window. |
| 01:26.31 | Ellipsis | you're* |
| 01:26.35 | Ellipsis | see, there I just helped you :) |
| 01:27.08 | Ikz | The toc doesn't list dependencies or anything, just three lines. |
| 01:27.20 | Ellipsis | ...three? |
| 01:27.27 | orionshock | title, version, and the file reference |
| 01:27.31 | orionshock | all you should need |
| 01:27.33 | Ikz | Interface, Title, and Notes |
| 01:27.44 | Ellipsis | did it occur to you to add the filename? :P |
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| 01:28.54 | Ikz | I think I see the problem, one second |
| 01:30.02 | Ikz | There, it had XML listed instead of LUA, and I removed the xml file.. |
| 01:30.07 | orionshock | yes that would do it.. |
| 01:30.11 | krka | Ikz: If you are referring to the programming language, you should write Lua instead of LUA |
| 01:30.37 | Ikz | Does everyone here say that? It's habit. Let me try the first thing you sent me again orion |
| 01:30.50 | Ellipsis | LUA LUA LUA! |
| 01:31.20 | orionshock | Ikz: yes everyone says it, i think several ppl have suggested we have purl chime in on mistakes like that... |
| 01:32.08 | Ikz | Well my incompetence didn't waste your time, the first thing you sent still isn't working |
| 01:32.28 | Ikz | Doing the new thing again |
| 01:33.02 | Arrowmaster | orionshock: purl chime in on the capitalizing of Lua? |
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| 01:34.01 | orionshock | ya, ppl always say it wrong ... might as well be annoying :D |
| 01:34.18 | Arrowmaster | but we already have a bot that does that |
| 01:35.11 | orionshock | who, krka |
| 01:35.27 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 01:35.42 | hiflyer | krka claims to be a real person but considering how he moves he might still be a bot |
| 01:35.54 | Arrowmaster | its a real person with a script |
| 01:37.11 | Arrowmaster | originally the script triggered everytime somebody said LUA and replyed instantly but now its got a time delay in it and a fairly long antispam |
| 01:37.27 | hiflyer | Arrowmaster: yeah, I know him. Just tried to be funny and insult him at the same time ;) |
| 01:37.42 | Arrowmaster | see 7-8 minutes and i still didnt trigger it |
| 01:38.50 | Ikz | http://www.chillwind.net/provus/fororion.avi |
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| 01:41.04 | orionshock | Ikz: did the 2nd one work? |
| 01:41.10 | Ikz | That's the results of the second one |
| 01:42.04 | orionshock | logic buged |
| 01:43.06 | orionshock | actually no, bad design, the addon assumes that the pet is already attacking it when you cast polymorph |
| 01:43.40 | orionshock | well sorta.. |
| 01:43.41 | Ikz | Erm? I had the pet attack first. |
| 01:43.56 | Ikz | Are you saying it's checking for auto attack and not waterbolt? |
| 01:44.23 | orionshock | no |
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| 01:45.01 | Ikz | Well like I said I hit my pet attack button (G) and then started casting polymorph. |
| 01:45.12 | Ikz | What do you want me to do? |
| 01:45.19 | Ikz | I could let it get off a couple of waterbolts first |
| 01:45.35 | Ellipsis | orionshock, dare I ask: why on earth are you comparing GUIDs in the first place? |
| 01:45.51 | orionshock | unique target id's |
| 01:45.57 | Ellipsis | wouldn't UnitIsUnit be a much quicker and simpler way to do that check? |
| 01:46.06 | orionshock | prolly |
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| 01:46.24 | orionshock | but as i am trying to lvl my DK at the same time the idea didn't cross my mind |
| 01:46.42 | orionshock | that and im not too familiar with that particular API |
| 01:47.12 | Ikz | Orion: Same thing with getting the pet to do two waterbolts before polymorph |
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| 01:50.11 | orionshock | Ikz: as Ellipsis suggested: http://ace.pastey.net/94219 |
| 01:50.37 | Ikz | k heading on to test |
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| 01:55.17 | Ikz | http://www.chillwind.net/provus/fororion2.avi |
| 01:56.28 | orionshock | i think i know the problem |
| 01:56.39 | orionshock | or im guessing at it... |
| 02:00.09 | orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/94220 |
| 02:00.23 | orionshock | i think the spell Id match up is fubar'ed |
| 02:02.07 | Ikz | k I'll test |
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| 02:04.18 | Ikz | The only difference seems to be instead of saying CLEU: SPELL_CAST_START when I start casting polymorph, it says HiSpellCastStart (regardless of whether or not my pet is attacking or not, or if it's out) |
| 02:04.34 | Ikz | Everything else is the same |
| 02:04.35 | orionshock | ya what i expected |
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| 02:10.16 | orionshock | do the event args come as strings or as numbers is the question... |
| 02:10.46 | Ellipsis | ...why is that a question? |
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| 02:19.40 | orionshock | usualy |
| 02:20.08 | orionshock | what it's doing is not matching the spell id of polymorph correctly |
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| 02:21.55 | CIA-46 | 03gagorian * r80707 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 02:21.55 | CIA-46 | DrDamage: |
| 02:21.55 | CIA-46 | - Added back _G["BonusActionBarFrame"]:IsVisible() check for BonusActionButton 1-12, it's apparently needed :C |
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| 02:31.00 | Vonhinten | nice "fix" |
| 02:37.17 | CIA-46 | 03ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80708 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/layouts/ABF.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Added layout options (bar height, order) |
| 02:37.17 | CIA-46 | 03ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80709 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Added layout options (bar height, order) |
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| 02:41.03 | CIA-46 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80710 10Prat/modules/ChannelSticky.lua: |
| 02:41.03 | CIA-46 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 02:41.03 | CIA-46 | Partially working per-frame sticky, and smartgroup/groupsay |
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| 02:57.25 | Dezzi | if a mod is wotlk compatible, is it most likely live compatible? |
| 02:58.14 | ulic | if it's on wowace svn and in trunk then most likely yes, any place dunno. |
| 02:59.10 | ulic | but I would assume that it's NOT compatible unless it states that is. |
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| 03:07.09 | Xuerian | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:07.10 | Xuerian | + |
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| 03:11.39 | Xelopheris | Is there an easy way to differentiate between an ISB and a Shadow Weaving in the combat log? |
| 03:12.24 | Ackis | hmmm click2cast is buggered =/ |
| 03:14.06 | Xuerian | Ackis: Clique works. |
| 03:14.27 | Ackis | in the middle of a raid :P |
| 03:15.19 | Xelopheris | Load second wow with addon installed. Log on over yourself |
| 03:15.50 | Xelopheris | did it during brut this week to get feralkit installed :P |
| 03:16.41 | Ackis | too much effort to AQ40 :P |
| 03:16.57 | Xelopheris | ah, lewl |
| 03:17.09 | Ackis | doing it w/ terribads :( |
| 03:17.15 | Xelopheris | need to get cthun done on my druid for the achievment >.> |
| 03:17.20 | Xelopheris | my last pug failed at twin emps |
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| 03:17.37 | Ackis | Xelopheris: you need to get loot/quest item from him =/ |
| 03:17.43 | Xelopheris | fully aware |
| 03:17.46 | Xelopheris | I plan to ninja a loot |
| 03:17.47 | Ackis | it's retarded :( |
| 03:18.02 | Ackis | ohh good idea :P |
| 03:18.14 | Xelopheris | death's sting imo |
| 03:18.41 | Ackis | I'd prefer to ninja the quest item :P +1 quests hahah |
| 03:18.54 | Xelopheris | good point |
| 03:19.03 | Xelopheris | How about just taking the entire loot table? |
| 03:19.34 | Xelopheris | Oh shit, I actually have a quest to get from him :P |
| 03:19.44 | Xelopheris | forgot only reason I normally pug that place is atiesh |
| 03:21.43 | Xelopheris | So yeah, ISB vs Shadow Weaving in combat log? |
| 03:22.32 | Xelopheris | I suppose I could parse for SB crits instead of Shadow Vulnerability debuffs |
| 03:23.18 | Arrowmaster | or you could just check the spell ids |
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| 03:43.49 | Ellipsis | welcome back, everyone |
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| 03:55.59 | Sole | hello everyone |
| 04:01.54 | Woodish | Evening Ellipsis |
| 04:06.07 | Woodish | http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot081908105659ud3.jpg |
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| 04:06.27 | Woodish | plz comments on my base comp, be4 I move to raid mods. |
| 04:07.05 | Sole | I dont like the zoomed up portraits |
| 04:07.11 | Sole | I think theyre pointless and dumb |
| 04:07.16 | Sole | but thats just personal preferance |
| 04:07.59 | Sole | the color of your cast bar is goat poo brown :P |
| 04:08.25 | Sole | the buffs are nifty and the action bar looks nice |
| 04:08.50 | Woodish | yes |
| 04:08.59 | Woodish | color of castbar must be fixed ty :) |
| 04:09.07 | Ellipsis | the only thing that bothers me about it is the minimap buttons and micro menu |
| 04:09.27 | Sole | good spotting |
| 04:09.29 | Ellipsis | they seem a bit...cluttery |
| 04:09.36 | Sole | that doesnt feel right to me either |
| 04:09.46 | Woodish | yes true |
| 04:09.48 | Sole | you could probably hide the micro menu |
| 04:09.52 | Ellipsis | I do really like the feel of the action bar though |
| 04:09.52 | Sole | and have it shown on mouse over |
| 04:09.57 | Woodish | hey Sole the portraits look cool in motion, bad on picture |
| 04:10.00 | Sole | I think I did that with bartender |
| 04:10.01 | Ellipsis | then again I'm a sucker for big buttons :P |
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| 04:10.18 | Sole | maybe they do, but Ive never tried them like that |
| 04:11.49 | Sole | I prefer not to use portraits |
| 04:11.58 | Sole | class colors mostly do it for me :) |
| 04:12.26 | Woodish | I like big unitframes |
| 04:12.35 | Sole | so do I |
| 04:12.46 | Woodish | many people like small though I know, I cant stand it |
| 04:12.58 | Sole | I want to see what I need up front and big |
| 04:13.13 | Sole | I find portraits got in the way of that so I axed them |
| 04:13.29 | Woodish | :) |
| 04:13.34 | Sole | now maybe somebody can help me out |
| 04:13.39 | Sole | I'm looking at Ellipsis |
| 04:14.04 | Ellipsis | uh oh :P |
| 04:14.07 | Sole | oki |
| 04:14.42 | Xelopheris | Is there a reference guide for GUID's somewhere? |
| 04:14.52 | CIA-46 | 03neotron * r80711 10ButtonBin/ButtonBin.toc: ButtonBin: Added sharedmedia[widgets] as optdeps. |
| 04:15.46 | Sole | problem asplanation time: I have a frame. EnableKeyboard(true). Then depending on which button is pressed (WASD), a highlighted box is moved. Pressing F will execute the action associated with the highlighted button (grid of secure buttons). I need to use SetOverrideBindingClick to execute the action. However the EnableKeyboard part of the frame overrides the overrideBinding command and so... |
| 04:15.48 | Sole | ...thats useless |
| 04:15.53 | Carancu | Woodish, may I ask why you have spread out all the critical information as you have? Or well, it looks spread out for me, not that it is necesarily a bad thing. |
| 04:16.12 | Woodish | example? |
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| 04:16.53 | Carancu | unitframes up to the left, buff/debuffs down to the right, vastbar down in the middle. That makes it a lot of moving the field of vision around. |
| 04:16.58 | Sole | Ellipsis: http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/636/kgour0.jpg screenshot |
| 04:17.06 | Woodish | I dont like to focus on different areas of the screen, I like to see the entire screen. I use big texts, big buttons, big unitframes and I sit far away from monitor. I look in the center. |
| 04:17.39 | Woodish | When I play with bad setings/UI, I find myself focusing in and gazing at different areas and I miss out on stuff |
| 04:17.49 | Ellipsis | Sole: secure frames aren't exactly my strong suit... :< |
| 04:18.48 | Woodish | Ellipsis I have requests for your buffs |
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| 04:19.07 | Woodish | I want to be able to filter out buffs by time! I am a druid! |
| 04:19.18 | Ellipsis | ...err? |
| 04:19.21 | Carancu | haha |
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| 04:19.33 | Woodish | Like on raidframes I would like to be able to toggle between all buffs. And then only show hots |
| 04:19.39 | Ellipsis | are you perhaps looking for Elkano? |
| 04:19.48 | Woodish | no |
| 04:19.53 | Woodish | I have elkano all over |
| 04:19.56 | Woodish | listen |
| 04:19.58 | Woodish | for my raidframes |
| 04:20.00 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 04:20.11 | Sole | they aren't my strong suit either and this problem is annoying me :( |
| 04:20.20 | Woodish | the buffs for pitbull Ellipsis |
| 04:20.31 | Woodish | the way I have it, I have buff filtering on |
| 04:20.38 | Woodish | but I still se mark of the wild etc on everyone |
| 04:20.41 | Sole | Ive been trying to use SetOverrideBinding instead of using a keyboard enabled frame |
| 04:20.42 | Ellipsis | well the aura filters in pitbull aren't going to be getting any more complex than they already are |
| 04:20.43 | Woodish | I want to see only my hots |
| 04:20.57 | Ellipsis | the only part of pitbull that can do more advanced filtering than that is DogTag itself |
| 04:21.07 | Ellipsis | some people use dogtag to create custom hot indicators |
| 04:21.14 | Woodish | then |
| 04:21.17 | Woodish | ill do that :D |
| 04:21.26 | Woodish | with your assistance :) |
| 04:21.36 | Carancu | it is actually a rather nice way of doing it (nice for the look of it anyway) |
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| 04:23.57 | Woodish | hum |
| 04:26.33 | Woodish | Ellipsis did you notice I found horizontal symetry! |
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| 04:26.56 | Ellipsis | yes, it looks good :) |
| 04:32.48 | Woodish | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw13270.jpg <- this is impressive imo |
| 04:35.01 | Shirik | I'm not usually a fan of compilations, but I agree |
| 04:35.58 | Carancu | it looks good I agree with that, but I do not like seeing the actionbars personally. |
| 04:37.22 | Woodish | :) I see 24 buttons always, and they change with my shapeshifting. Other then those I have about 58 hidden binds |
| 04:38.04 | Woodish | I would like to see how other people design their UI's anyone know a good forum for this? |
| 04:38.20 | Carancu | http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m289/carancu/WoWScrnShot_071708_171733.jpg Apart from having removed most of the text from msbt that is a fairly good view of how mine look. |
| 04:38.22 | Woodish | I just build mine without outer inspiration so far |
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| 04:39.20 | Ellipsis | I like that green color you're using there, Carancu |
| 04:39.25 | Ellipsis | very easy on the eyes |
| 04:39.31 | Woodish | very nice UI, very clean |
| 04:39.32 | Woodish | I like it |
| 04:40.50 | Ellipsis | my old one: http://i31.tinypic.com/2psm5w5.png |
| 04:40.55 | Ellipsis | (re-doing for wotlk) |
| 04:42.14 | Carancu | love the simplicity of seeing what's important on that one. |
| 04:42.23 | Woodish | you guys make me want to start all over. |
| 04:42.27 | Carancu | haha |
| 04:42.31 | Ellipsis | hehe, out of combat it was even prettier |
| 04:42.35 | Ellipsis | http://i27.tinypic.com/b4uek2.png |
| 04:43.14 | HunterZ0 | i would feel totally naked with a UI that sparse :x |
| 04:43.20 | Carancu | hmm, that's one thing I could improve on mine, hiding the things while out of combat. |
| 04:43.21 | Ellipsis | what more do you need? :P |
| 04:44.06 | HunterZ0 | buttons, clocks, bars... |
| 04:44.14 | Ellipsis | I am actually an information whore...I just hate duplicated information and clutter (things that are visible without providing any useful information) |
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| 04:44.36 | Ellipsis | I know my keybindings by heart, I have a watch, and...what kind of bars? |
| 04:44.46 | HunterZ0 | buff bars, ability timer bars |
| 04:44.49 | Carancu | what do you need the buttons for? Keybindings! |
| 04:44.55 | HunterZ0 | oh i guess you have buff icons |
| 04:44.57 | Ellipsis | buff timers are all handled on the unit frames :P |
| 04:45.20 | Ellipsis | like Carancu said...I actually removed the action bar code from bongos for that UI |
| 04:45.22 | Woodish | Ok thats it |
| 04:45.26 | Ellipsis | I only have it running for the pet bar itself |
| 04:45.33 | Woodish | I remake my player, target and focus untiframes now |
| 04:45.36 | Ellipsis | (for enslaves etc. where I need to see what their abilities are) |
| 04:45.48 | HunterZ0 | i have way too many buttons on my hunter to be able to go without action bars. my alts could probably pull it off but it'd suck to not be able to see cooldowns |
| 04:46.09 | Carancu | HunterZ0, I'm using the same ui on my hunter as on my druid :P |
| 04:46.20 | Ellipsis | personally, I don't find cooldown timers to be really *necessar* |
| 04:46.25 | Ellipsis | necessary |
| 04:46.36 | Carancu | apart from showing the timer on mangle/rip. |
| 04:46.39 | Ellipsis | either the spell is on CD or it's not |
| 04:46.48 | Ellipsis | if I hit the button and it doesn't go off, it's probably on CD :P |
| 04:46.58 | Woodish | :) |
| 04:47.08 | Woodish | yes, get into pvp its important. |
| 04:47.19 | Woodish | not as warlock, or maybe spell lock |
| 04:47.19 | Ellipsis | I don't pvp ^-^ |
| 04:47.22 | Woodish | my main is a warlock |
| 04:47.24 | Carancu | that's how I go on the cooldown issue too, if it work it was off cooldown, if it didn't work, well, then it wasn't off cooldown. |
| 04:47.27 | HunterZ0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:47.29 | Woodish | then your correct |
| 04:47.54 | HunterZ0 | i raid so i like to smother myself in information |
| 04:48.05 | Ellipsis | same :) |
| 04:48.16 | Woodish | pvp tho, what you do is often based on what you'll do next, and what you'll do next is dependant on your cooldown. As druid this is |
| 04:48.22 | HunterZ0 | slacking off while doing boring BT trash atm >.> |
| 04:48.30 | Woodish | I want to know when I can barkskin again and rehot with aggro |
| 04:48.37 | Ellipsis | raid frames demo: http://i25.tinypic.com/2rndg9i.png |
| 04:48.56 | Ellipsis | I have a LOT more information than most warlocks do, because I just really like knowing overall health/mana status in the raid |
| 04:49.02 | HunterZ0 | what unit frames addon is that? |
| 04:49.07 | Ellipsis | pitbull |
| 04:49.10 | HunterZ0 | ah |
| 04:49.52 | Woodish | nice Ellipsis |
| 04:49.52 | HunterZ0 | i use pitbull but i've always found general unit frame addons to be way too heavyweight for use as raid frames. i've been using perfectraid for quite a while. |
| 04:50.11 | Ellipsis | well, by using pitbull I cut down on the amount of duplicate code between multiple unit frame addons |
| 04:50.14 | Ellipsis | and keep things more consistent :) |
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| 04:50.27 | Carancu | a quote from my guildmaster "Why is the dps slowing down?", the answer he got was "well, all the dps except you is dead", proved that he didn't show the raid unitframes, it was really amusing to hear those two on ts though. |
| 04:50.29 | Woodish | ? |
| 04:50.42 | HunterZ0 | perfectraid is the only raid frame addon i use, unless you cound pitbull for player/pet/target/focus/ToT/etc. and mainassist for tanks |
| 04:50.45 | Woodish | Whats wrong with pitbull for raid frames? Its perfect and very configureable |
| 04:50.47 | Woodish | I love them |
| 04:51.03 | HunterZ0 | i like having double digit FPS in raid combat |
| 04:51.26 | HunterZ0 | i'm actually hoping to switch to the ace3 AGUF eventually to move away from DogTags |
| 04:51.33 | Groktar | my new guild forum signature: http://www.guild-impulse.net/images/aevsig.jpg |
| 04:52.05 | Woodish | Ellipsis |
| 04:52.13 | Ellipsis | pitbull doesn't give me performance issues, maybe because I don't have 5000 dogtags on each frame :P |
| 04:52.13 | Woodish | whats your bar texture? |
| 04:52.23 | Ellipsis | Woodish: smooth v2 for the unit frames |
| 04:52.52 | HunterZ0 | smooth v2 is nice :) |
| 04:53.03 | HunterZ0 | i use it for all my sharedmedia addons |
| 04:53.26 | Woodish | Sole, are you still here? |
| 04:53.31 | Sole | yes |
| 04:53.46 | Ellipsis | I use smooth v2 for most things, but I prefer original smooth for things like omen, etc. where bars are stacked on top of each other...there's more visible separation between the bars with that texture |
| 04:53.46 | Woodish | those unitframes, did you make them with pitbull? |
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| 04:54.45 | Woodish | How did you remove the blackish standard background? |
| 04:54.59 | Ellipsis | global settings -> colors -> frame |
| 04:55.07 | Ellipsis | background color, border, etc. all configurable there :P |
| 04:55.08 | Woodish | im such a noob |
| 04:55.30 | Woodish | Was prepairing for codework again |
| 04:57.01 | Woodish | ah |
| 04:57.06 | Woodish | Maintenance :/ |
| 04:58.00 | Carancu | maintance is boring, they cut in right into me bugtesting a few new things I coded. |
| 04:58.03 | Woodish | anyway, did anyone have a forum or anything where people post nice user interfaces? |
| 04:58.08 | Woodish | Im in need of some brainstorming |
| 04:58.26 | Ellipsis | wowace of course has its ui screenshots thread |
| 04:58.48 | Carancu | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1764.0 |
| 04:59.05 | Woodish | thanks alot |
| 04:59.24 | Carancu | you will have something to prewss "next page" on for the rest of today with that topic. |
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| 05:04.21 | Woodish | there are too many small numbers and texts in my unitframes, right Ellipsis? |
| 05:04.31 | Woodish | I hate them now. Remake. |
| 05:05.43 | HunterZ0 | here's my cluttered UI from 7 minutes ago: http://i36.tinypic.com/2wftj5k.jpg |
| 05:06.02 | Ellipsis | Woodish: whatever information you need is what you need :) |
| 05:06.21 | Ellipsis | personally, I could do without things like the guild name and class text (since you already have everything class colored) |
| 05:06.28 | Ellipsis | but if it helps you interpret the information, go for it :) |
| 05:06.44 | Xinhuan | Diao, ping ;p |
| 05:07.03 | Carancu | that is actually a bit tricky, to figure out what information is needed, and what one can be without (or access in another way) |
| 05:07.11 | Ellipsis | HunterZ0: it looks like you took 3 UIs and overlayed them on top of each other with transparency :P |
| 05:07.22 | Diao | what's up Xinhuan |
| 05:07.30 | Xinhuan | are u online? |
| 05:07.46 | Diao | not atm, but i can be :o |
| 05:07.50 | Diao | need something? |
| 05:07.58 | Xinhuan | think you can help me get a horde-vendor recipe? ;p |
| 05:08.01 | HunterZ0 | Ellipsis: well one of them is a tooltip. but yeah mikk's and my BigWigs bars (via RBM) overlap in the middle of the screen |
| 05:08.23 | Diao | sure |
| 05:08.28 | Ellipsis | msbt is the worst of it, yeah |
| 05:08.51 | Ellipsis | imo there's an excessive use of transparency as well, but that's just my tastes |
| 05:09.03 | Xinhuan | Enchant Chest - Lesser Mana |
| 05:09.15 | Xinhuan | Vendor - Kithas - Origimaar: 53, 38 |
| 05:09.23 | HunterZ0 | Ellipsis: yeah i feel claustrophobic with that much clutter if it's all opaque |
| 05:09.24 | Xinhuan | or Vendor - Lilly - Silverpine Forest : 43, 50 |
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| 05:09.41 | Ellipsis | HunterZ0: I would take that as a sign of needing to declutter ;P |
| 05:09.47 | Woodish | I dont like transperacy either. Only for Elkano's bars, its just needed there. |
| 05:10.06 | HunterZ0 | never! hehe |
| 05:10.23 | Sole | !api SetOverrideBinding |
| 05:10.23 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'SetOverrideBinding' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetOverrideBinding |
| 05:10.51 | Woodish | HunterZ0, you have all this information. altho with one minute of trying I havent yet figured out what the name of your target is. |
| 05:10.59 | Woodish | Maybe you'r not targeting anything |
| 05:11.21 | Carancu | it's far up in the middle ;) |
| 05:11.23 | HunterZ0 | Woodish: lol look harder, it shows in at least 3 places |
| 05:11.32 | HunterZ0 | *4 places |
| 05:11.46 | Ellipsis | also a bad sign :P |
| 05:11.53 | Ellipsis | you have LOTS of duplicate information |
| 05:11.56 | Ellipsis | even duplicate buttons |
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| 05:12.17 | HunterZ0 | nah, 3 of them aren't direct (omen, a triangle next to magictargets and my name in the tooltip) |
| 05:12.29 | HunterZ0 | which buttons are duplicate? |
| 05:12.49 | Ellipsis | things like drums, potions, hearthstone, etc. are all duplicate between your action bars and autobar |
| 05:12.59 | Ellipsis | and why do you need your hearthstone button visible while fighting a boss, anyway? |
| 05:13.05 | Ellipsis | gonna bubble-hearth out if they call a wipe? |
| 05:13.10 | HunterZ0 | hell yeah hehe |
| 05:13.21 | Carancu | it's called /cast hearthstone ! |
| 05:13.28 | HunterZ0 | i don't like having things auto-hide, it's a personal preference |
| 05:13.38 | Carancu | that was faster for me than finding the damn stone in my backpack... |
| 05:13.50 | HunterZ0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:14.09 | CIA-46 | 03neotron * r80712 10MagicDKP/ (Config.lua Locales/Locale-enUS.lua MagicDKP.lua): |
| 05:14.09 | CIA-46 | MagicDKP: |
| 05:14.09 | CIA-46 | - Added ability to maually add/remove raid attendees and standby attendees. |
| 05:14.09 | CIA-46 | - Added options to report in raid/guild chat when taking an event/standby event. |
| 05:14.16 | Ellipsis | I just keep my hearthstone in the top-left of my backpack |
| 05:14.26 | Ellipsis | but if you NEED it on your screen, at least keep it down to one place |
| 05:14.46 | Ellipsis | and poor use of space all around, it could be organized a lot better |
| 05:14.52 | kappaccino | I remember back in molten core |
| 05:15.01 | Ellipsis | the big chunk of action bars on the right side would fit nicely either in the bottom left corner or under your buffs |
| 05:15.02 | HunterZ0 | yeah it's mostly that i didn't trust autobar at first and then never got around to eliminating duplicate buttons. for a while a lot of essentials like hearthstone were pushed off the end of the autobar |
| 05:15.04 | Ellipsis | rather than in the middle :P |
| 05:15.29 | kappaccino | our shaman hearthed out while rezzing after golemag |
| 05:15.35 | Woodish | I dont know why people use bars for buffs that are more then a minute? |
| 05:15.35 | kappaccino | or whatever his name is |
| 05:15.41 | Diao | only need lesser mana Xinhuan, not minor mana? |
| 05:15.43 | HunterZ0 | also, it's only the combat stuff that's in the middle-middle. i wouldn't want msbt or raid timers off to the side where i can't see them without looking away |
| 05:15.47 | Ellipsis | what Woodish said^ |
| 05:15.48 | kappaccino | because his stone was next to the shaman rez |
| 05:15.51 | Woodish | I dont think elkano is a good mod for showing all your raidbuffs |
| 05:16.00 | Xinhuan | hmm that's the one ackis recipe list says i'm missing lol |
| 05:16.06 | Woodish | its good for showing short term buffs |
| 05:16.08 | Xinhuan | at least, what i typed that is |
| 05:16.11 | Diao | ok |
| 05:16.12 | Diao | lesser it is |
| 05:16.13 | HunterZ0 | Woodish: it's more for being able to see the names all the time than the bars themselves |
| 05:16.21 | Ellipsis | I used to use EBB group filtering to put >1.5min buffs on the side with just icon + timer, and then bars for things shorter than that like procs etc. |
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| 05:16.44 | Ellipsis | HunterZ0: because you forgot what the icon for fort looked like? |
| 05:16.44 | HunterZ0 | my brain triggers off the text more than the icon |
| 05:16.49 | Woodish | Ellipsis nice |
| 05:17.05 | Ellipsis | yeah, I really liked that UI but it was too heavy for my computer |
| 05:17.18 | Ellipsis | so I had to slim down to what you saw in my screenshot :) |
| 05:17.19 | Woodish | I prefer pitbull buffs to list everything, small and discrete. And then elkano bars for important short term stuffs |
| 05:17.30 | Woodish | Elkanos bars does that so well together with pitbull frames |
| 05:17.48 | HunterZ0 | pitbull buffs are too buggy, still has that darn bug where it shows the wrong icon over my hunter's mark half the time |
| 05:18.12 | Woodish | never had any bugs with the newer versions? |
| 05:18.27 | Diao | heading to booty bay now to put it on the neutral ah |
| 05:18.32 | HunterZ0 | i see it all the time, latest version (not that it's been updated much lately) |
| 05:18.34 | Xinhuan | if there's one in A52 |
| 05:18.37 | Xinhuan | it might be closer |
| 05:18.45 | Xinhuan | (is there?) |
| 05:18.51 | Diao | uhh |
| 05:18.57 | Diao | pretty sure there are no AH in outland |
| 05:19.02 | Diao | but i could be wrong |
| 05:19.04 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 05:19.11 | Diao | i'm almost positive they have no AH or trainers in outland at all |
| 05:19.17 | Diao | er, class trainers* |
| 05:20.02 | Carancu | One thing you could do for debuffs that you need to know if they are there are to use for example power auras or Lorhin to show a non intrusive texture close to the targetframe and so on. |
| 05:20.23 | Carancu | no idea how well Avion behave nowdays. |
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| 05:21.58 | Xinhuan | i'm heading to booty bay now too |
| 05:22.07 | Xinhuan | wait actually i'll go tanaris |
| 05:22.08 | Xinhuan | free ports |
| 05:22.31 | Diao | lol |
| 05:22.36 | Diao | ok |
| 05:22.39 | Diao | i forgot about it |
| 05:22.41 | Diao | but i was in org anyway |
| 05:22.53 | Diao | probably would've taken the same amount of time |
| 05:23.19 | Xinhuan | KoT portal is fastest! |
| 05:23.39 | Diao | erm |
| 05:23.44 | Diao | zep, then a 1 minute flight |
| 05:23.50 | Diao | vs hearth to shat, kot portal, ride to tanaris |
| 05:23.53 | Diao | :P |
| 05:24.04 | Diao | for horde |
| 05:24.55 | CIA-46 | 03neotron * r80713 10MagicDKP/Config.lua: MagicDKP: Capitalize the name when adding/deleting people manually. |
| 05:25.55 | Woodish | Ellipsis, I have a question since ive been thinking about how to make my new UF |
| 05:26.18 | Ellipsis | yup? |
| 05:26.38 | Woodish | How hard would it be for me to make my own class/race icons, and add them into my pitbull frames? |
| 05:26.51 | Ellipsis | not hard at all |
| 05:26.56 | Ellipsis | you can use dogtags |
| 05:26.58 | Woodish | Could I make it? |
| 05:27.05 | Ellipsis | [Icon(path\to\icon)] |
| 05:27.08 | Woodish | Im good with photoshop, not good with code |
| 05:27.35 | Woodish | thanks :) |
| 05:28.04 | Woodish | Ima make some cool png's with transparency and stuff |
| 05:28.16 | Woodish | need something to do during maintenace :D |
| 05:28.17 | Ellipsis | has to be tga or blp :P |
| 05:28.21 | Ellipsis | (wow's rule, not ours) |
| 05:28.38 | Vonhinten | and has to be a power of 2 dimension |
| 05:28.41 | Xinhuan | and width/height has to be a power of 2, between 32 and 512 ;p |
| 05:28.42 | Woodish | oh im not familar with those |
| 05:28.51 | Woodish | .tga support transparancy? |
| 05:29.10 | Vonhinten | it supports alpha, I believe |
| 05:29.14 | Ellipsis | yep, full alpha |
| 05:29.24 | Woodish | cool |
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| 05:29.30 | Woodish | Xinhuan, what the heck did you say? |
| 05:29.47 | Xinhuan | width/height of any texture has to be a power of 2, between 32 and 512 |
| 05:29.52 | Woodish | 32 pixel minimum height and width? |
| 05:29.54 | Xinhuan | diao, i'm there |
| 05:29.56 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 05:29.58 | Diao | ok |
| 05:30.05 | Diao | auction posted at 3s 80c |
| 05:30.05 | Diao | :p |
| 05:30.09 | Woodish | thats kinda big isnt it? |
| 05:30.21 | Carancu | not really Woodish. |
| 05:30.26 | Diao | you can scale it |
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| 05:30.28 | Xinhuan | bought it! |
| 05:30.40 | Diao | kk ;P |
| 05:30.43 | Xinhuan | now i have every enchant in the game muahaha |
| 05:30.46 | Diao | lol |
| 05:30.46 | Diao | grats |
| 05:30.48 | Xinhuan | 221/221 |
| 05:30.52 | Diao | i still haven't seen mongoose drop once :( |
| 05:30.53 | Vonhinten | Blizzards own BLP files have mip levels lower than 32 |
| 05:31.03 | Diao | and i've done kara every week ;_; |
| 05:31.18 | Xinhuan | damn |
| 05:31.29 | Xinhuan | maybe the lowest is 16x16 |
| 05:31.32 | Xinhuan | rather than 32x32 |
| 05:32.00 | Xinhuan | ty diao |
| 05:32.12 | Diao | np |
| 05:36.55 | digmouse | Cairenn: I'm sure it's the code issue now and writing to blizzard beta billing |
| 05:37.08 | Cairenn | digmouse: huh? |
| 05:37.39 | digmouse | just tried the code I got and get "Invalid Login", tried 2 account |
| 05:37.49 | Cairenn | weird |
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| 05:38.15 | Cairenn | but yeah, you'll need to talk to them, no idea why it wouldn't be working for you |
| 05:39.00 | digmouse | *shurgs* |
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| 05:45.26 | Xinhuan | US key vs EU key? |
| 05:46.06 | Ellipsis | I thought digmouse was chinese? |
| 05:46.48 | digmouse | Ellipsis win |
| 05:47.30 | Xinhuan | i'm chinese too |
| 05:47.45 | digmouse | I know :D |
| 05:47.54 | Ellipsis | we can tell ;) |
| 05:49.16 | digmouse | Xinhuan: got from wowi, should be us |
| 05:49.30 | Xinhuan | no, you can specify us or eu |
| 05:50.53 | orionshock | syl |
| 05:50.56 | orionshock | sylvanaar: |
| 05:51.02 | orionshock | what module is called "PE" ? |
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| 06:08.36 | Ikz` | orion: Can the addon not be done? |
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| 06:12.40 | Woodish | Ive always had problems with configuren NECB the way I want it. And I really dont like the configuration options. |
| 06:12.52 | Woodish | Is there any alternative mod for NECB? That does the same kind of work? |
| 06:13.38 | orionshock | RBM |
| 06:13.52 | orionshock | i like RBM |
| 06:13.52 | Woodish | what does that mean? |
| 06:14.15 | orionshock | RBM is an addon :D |
| 06:14.22 | Woodish | yes |
| 06:14.25 | Woodish | but I want to find it |
| 06:14.33 | Woodish | so I need to know what its called other then RBM |
| 06:14.35 | orionshock | it's here on wowace |
| 06:14.42 | Woodish | its called RBM? |
| 06:14.47 | orionshock | ... |
| 06:14.55 | orionshock | files.wowace.com/RBM/RBM.zip |
| 06:15.11 | Woodish | ty buddy :D |
| 06:15.26 | orionshock | ... it's a very complicated addon, not for the weak |
| 06:15.45 | orionshock | and it's config is one hell of a fk job. But it preforms like nothing else |
| 06:15.47 | orionshock | i like it |
| 06:16.32 | Woodish | thanks man |
| 06:16.35 | Woodish | ill get into it |
| 06:17.38 | Woodish | I see there is alot of modules for this |
| 06:17.39 | Woodish | cool |
| 06:17.51 | orionshock | all you really need is the core |
| 06:17.58 | orionshock | everything else is, as usual, fluff |
| 06:18.10 | digmouse | RBM_AbilityWatch |
| 06:18.16 | Woodish | yes |
| 06:18.26 | Woodish | thatone sounded good |
| 06:18.28 | Woodish | ok |
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| 06:23.06 | Woodish | Hey. any way I can run two instances of the same modification simultaniously? |
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| 06:23.27 | orionshock | doable, but seriously you don't want to |
| 06:23.42 | Woodish | I want 2 quartz, need different configuration for different castbars. and it doesnt allow |
| 06:24.23 | CIA-46 | 03neotron * r80714 10ButtonBin/ButtonBin.lua: ButtonBin: Added bin font settings. |
| 06:24.24 | Sole | so turns out that having a frame which is receiving keyboard events (EnableKeyboard) will override SetOverrideBindingX commands |
| 06:24.37 | Ellipsis | you want multiple cast bars? o.O |
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| 06:25.19 | Woodish | Ellipsis I want to hide the bar and show icon and text for my target and focus castbar |
| 06:25.44 | Woodish | only way I found in quartz to do that was to set the castbar color to fully transparent |
| 06:25.53 | Woodish | so now I dont see my own castbar either...? :D |
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| 06:26.37 | Sole | doesnt quartz have seperate options per cast bar? |
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| 06:26.42 | Ellipsis | you should be able to change all those settings independently of each other |
| 06:26.48 | Woodish | for everything except colors |
| 06:26.50 | Woodish | :) |
| 06:26.57 | Ellipsis | bleh, that's dumb |
| 06:27.11 | Sole | you know what else is dumb? |
| 06:27.19 | Sole | SetOverrideBinding doesnt override everything :( |
| 06:27.29 | nevcairiel | it overrides other bindings |
| 06:27.33 | nevcairiel | thats all it does =P |
| 06:27.33 | Ellipsis | well it's not like it says it overrides things in the name or anything... :P |
| 06:27.47 | Sole | bleh this is a headache |
| 06:28.04 | Woodish | trying to do? |
| 06:28.10 | Sole | keyboard event receiving frame takes priority over the overriden binding |
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| 06:28.22 | nevcairiel | Sole: well yes, thats how editboxes work |
| 06:28.44 | Sole | yeah Ive figured out that it works like an editbox, except without the editbox |
| 06:29.16 | Woodish | Ellipsis do you think I can manipulate quartz to set different colos to different bars in the config file? |
| 06:29.58 | Ellipsis | no |
| 06:30.07 | nevcairiel | is there some all-in-one performance databroker plugin? |
| 06:30.10 | Ellipsis | I vaguely remember seeing that they pull from the same SV spot |
| 06:30.15 | orionshock | Woodish: your assuming you can do that to begin with. problem with running the same addon twice is scoping. |
| 06:30.22 | Ellipsis | when I fixed the texture stuff |
| 06:31.58 | Woodish | orionshock k |
| 06:33.23 | Woodish | ok so no I cant set different colors in the options, its just under profile I get to set colors. |
| 06:33.25 | Woodish | however |
| 06:33.55 | Diao | arghh |
| 06:33.56 | Woodish | in the config file I could set bar width to 0? Wich the slider in the game wont allow me to do. Think this will work? |
| 06:33.57 | Diao | this is making me mad |
| 06:34.17 | Diao | trying to do the hellfire daily and 3 70s ganking us :( |
| 06:34.20 | Diao | 2 59s.. |
| 06:34.54 | Woodish | Diao |
| 06:34.58 | Diao | ? |
| 06:35.04 | Woodish | are you the evil horde? or are they the evil horde? |
| 06:35.07 | Diao | they are :p |
| 06:35.13 | Woodish | damn them! |
| 06:35.13 | Diao | we were killing a 70 prot pally |
| 06:35.21 | Diao | as a 59 human rogue and ne druid |
| 06:35.28 | Diao | and he called for help from a 70 warr and hunter :\ |
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| 06:35.39 | orionshock | Diao: beta/live? |
| 06:35.43 | Diao | live, lol |
| 06:35.44 | orionshock | nmd |
| 06:35.59 | Diao | alts on another server from our mains :( |
| 06:36.14 | Woodish | your main is a evil horde? |
| 06:36.23 | Diao | >.> |
| 06:36.24 | Diao | yes |
| 06:36.38 | orionshock | i play horde on live |
| 06:36.44 | orionshock | but alliance on beta |
| 06:36.47 | Diao | well, we're carebears on a pvp server |
| 06:36.55 | Diao | only gank when people attack us first |
| 06:37.26 | Ellipsis | how is that ganking exactly? :P |
| 06:37.44 | Diao | well, i guess it's not |
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| 06:37.47 | Diao | but if they emote at me |
| 06:37.51 | Diao | or are well geared but fail at ganking |
| 06:37.53 | Diao | then i'll camp them |
| 06:38.03 | Ellipsis | naughty naughty |
| 06:38.17 | Woodish | or if they smell? |
| 06:38.21 | Woodish | like taurens |
| 06:38.22 | Woodish | yak |
| 06:38.25 | Diao | lol |
| 06:38.29 | Diao | i give everyone an equal shot |
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| 06:38.43 | Woodish | tell that to the horde! |
| 06:38.47 | Diao | i am horde |
| 06:38.50 | Diao | :p |
| 06:38.55 | Woodish | I played gnom for a long time |
| 06:39.00 | Woodish | I was always the target |
| 06:39.03 | Diao | if alliance are stupid enough to try and gank me then i'll own them |
| 06:39.09 | Diao | if not, then i leave them alone ;p |
| 06:39.19 | Ellipsis | I always stomp on gnomes when I get the chance |
| 06:39.30 | Ellipsis | they keep trying to look up my robes :< |
| 06:39.31 | Woodish | :/ |
| 06:39.36 | Woodish | hehe |
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| 06:41.13 | Diao | like the other day i suppose |
| 06:41.32 | Diao | i was helping a 66 friend with ring of blood... then 5 alliance with a few 70s in pvp gear try to kill us |
| 06:41.40 | Diao | my arena partner and i just wrecked all of them |
| 06:43.45 | Woodish | arg |
| 06:43.58 | Woodish | Longing to get my hands on RBM |
| 06:44.29 | Woodish | I guess I go bunker up stuff from the store for today. Later fellas thanks alot for all of your help. |
| 06:44.54 | Ellipsis | see ya Woodish :) |
| 06:47.02 | Diao | bye o: |
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| 07:16.48 | Diao | does anyone know if there is a poison vendor in honor hold? |
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| 07:17.14 | Sole | not sure |
| 07:17.15 | Diao | nm, found it |
| 07:20.11 | Elkano | the reagent vendor in the tower, isn't it? ^^ |
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| 07:21.34 | Diao | it was the alchemist |
| 07:21.37 | Diao | but yes |
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| 07:37.18 | Sole | YES! |
| 07:37.30 | nevcairiel | NO! |
| 07:37.33 | Sole | well it works |
| 07:37.39 | Adirelle|work | ? |
| 07:37.52 | Kalroth | Sole just made his first Hello World program |
| 07:37.57 | Adirelle|work | oh ! |
| 07:38.00 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 07:38.01 | Adirelle|work | gratz |
| 07:38.02 | Ellipsis | grats Sole! |
| 07:38.07 | Sole | >.< |
| 07:38.25 | Kalroth | nev tried to help him, but that just made it worse |
| 07:38.46 | Sole | instead of setting the secure button's attribute to the appropriate type (spell/item/etc), I ended up using a macro and modified macrotext |
| 07:38.53 | Sole | the first way worked |
| 07:39.08 | Sole | but then I couldnt ClearOverridenBindings and hide the frame |
| 07:39.15 | Sole | to whomever cares |
| 07:39.33 | Ellipsis | I was afraid you'd have to do something icky like that |
| 07:39.44 | Sole | I was afraid as well |
| 07:39.44 | Ellipsis | ah well, at least it works, good job :) |
| 07:39.58 | Sole | but then I remembered that I did the same in gladiator |
| 07:40.09 | Sole | so I just copied the macrotext I already had from that |
| 07:40.25 | Nargiddley | you couldn't use the postclick handler of the buttons to do that ? |
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| 07:40.38 | Sole | yeah, now to figure out how to let people drag and drop abilities and items onto the secure button |
| 07:40.45 | Sole | I tried using OnClick |
| 07:41.18 | Sole | but whenever I set a value for that, even a simple Print("foo"), it wouldn't actually cast the spell or use the item associated with that button |
| 07:42.23 | Arrowmaster | doesnt the OnClick goto a function from the secure templates? |
| 07:42.33 | Fisker- | takes nevcairiel |
| 07:42.34 | Nargiddley | "PostClick" and "PreClick" are the handlers you can use with secure buttons, depending if you want to run something before or after the click |
| 07:42.48 | Arrowmaster | meaning you overwrote it and made it stop functioning |
| 07:42.53 | nevcairiel | you cant do anything secure in them, though |
| 07:43.35 | Sole | so I can actually simply set SetScript("PostClick", function....) ? |
| 07:43.41 | Nargiddley | yes |
| 07:43.55 | nevcairiel | again, it depends what you want to do |
| 07:44.05 | nevcairiel | You cannot do anything secure in them, once you are in combat |
| 07:44.12 | dieck | hm, if I initialize a AceDB3 in OnInitialize via LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New..., are the values available right away, or do I have to wait for a VARIABLES_LOADED event? |
| 07:44.14 | Sole | just clear overriden bindings and hide a frame |
| 07:44.21 | Nargiddley | clear the override binding and hide the buttons, he's only working out of combat |
| 07:44.38 | nevcairiel | dieck: yes, should be available right away |
| 07:44.48 | dieck | ok, thx |
| 07:44.56 | Arrowmaster | dieck: right away, unless youve caused your OnInit to be fired earlyer by using LoadAddOn or AceLibrary |
| 07:45.16 | Kalroth | http://www.jonco48.com/blog/black_20kids_20desk.jpg |
| 07:45.27 | Arrowmaster | in which case it will fail completely |
| 07:45.40 | Sole | thanks a bunch Narg |
| 07:45.43 | Arrowmaster | and never work even after VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 07:45.57 | Sole | lol Kal |
| 07:46.18 | Sole | http://pic.yupoo.com/geuro/0169055d253b/medium/ |
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| 07:49.36 | Sole | Narg: works like a charm |
| 07:51.41 | steev | ugh, lost both our tanks after curator |
| 07:51.52 | Adirelle|work | Antiarc: still here but not really here ? |
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| 07:55.49 | dieck | Arrowmaster: hm, that means VARIABLES_LOADED is of no use whatsoever in Ace addons when using only AceDB? |
| 07:56.10 | Arrowmaster | VARIABLES_LOADED is mostly useless anyway |
| 07:56.24 | orionshock | eh, xpt if you setup your database wrong it dosn't work |
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| 08:12.08 | Bucket | When writing macros, is it possible to make it so you can just type stuff like /mount and it will execute the macro? |
| 08:13.18 | WobWork | not with just macros, as they're not -those- sorts of macros |
| 08:13.55 | Bucket | Damn |
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| 08:14.29 | Adirelle|work | actually I don't even know if there is a way to create a chat command that securely launches a macro |
| 08:14.49 | Ellipsis | there's always one... /click |
| 08:14.50 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 08:15.14 | Adirelle|work | er... it's quite awkward |
| 08:18.06 | CIA-46 | 03neotron * r80715 10MagicDKP/ (Locales/Locale-enUS.lua MagicDKP.lua): MagicDKP: changed message that is sent to raid to avoid it being boss blocked. |
| 08:18.13 | orionshock | so anyone come up with a random mount script for beta? |
| 08:18.53 | nevcairiel | thats easy |
| 08:18.57 | Ellipsis | uh... |
| 08:19.16 | orionshock | i know, just don't know the api's and too lazy to look it up |
| 08:19.30 | Ellipsis | APIs? |
| 08:19.35 | Ellipsis | what's wrong with /castrandom exactly? |
| 08:19.49 | orionshock | too much text |
| 08:19.57 | nevcairiel | cry more =P |
| 08:19.57 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 08:20.09 | Ellipsis | you think doing it with lua will be less text? |
| 08:20.10 | orionshock | that and i got alot of mounts :P |
| 08:20.25 | orionshock | no, but with lua it won't matter the number of mounts i have |
| 08:21.32 | nevcairiel | you can lookup the ids of the mounts you want in the macro and directly call CallCompanion |
| 08:23.24 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:24.08 | nevcairiel | well that will mix land and flying mounts =P |
| 08:24.11 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:24.41 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:25.02 | Ellipsis | argh, I finally got a non-bugged vehicle quest and failed it once and now it's bugged :( |
| 08:25.11 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 08:25.41 | Ellipsis | apparently, when you die in the shredder, you die in real life. |
| 08:25.46 | Sole | whats the attribute I have to set to make it so that a secure button is able to have drop in/drag out functionality? like real action buttons |
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| 08:29.23 | orionshock | tho nevcairiel that script would work great for the NPC -Pets |
| 08:29.35 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 08:38.02 | Ellipsis | argh. |
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| 08:38.14 | Ellipsis | so apparently you can pvp with the other faction's vehicles accidentally |
| 08:38.39 | Ellipsis | also they don't like it much |
| 08:38.41 | Ellipsis | and will kill you for it |
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| 08:39.14 | orionshock | new bg? |
| 08:39.26 | Pkekyo| | plonks Ellipsis |
| 08:39.28 | Ellipsis | no, just doing a vehicle quest |
| 08:39.39 | orionshock | grr |
| 08:39.44 | orionshock | have to log over to live, to raid |
| 08:39.46 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:40.00 | Ellipsis | vehicles with non-targeted abilities (like aoes) can hit other vehicles controlled by players of the opposite faction |
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| 08:40.19 | Ellipsis | if said players decide to punish you for it, you will end up with a nice little repair bill |
| 08:40.29 | Ellipsis | this doesn't seem quite right |
| 08:40.49 | Arrowmaster | pvp server? |
| 08:40.54 | Ellipsis | no |
| 08:41.00 | Ellipsis | pve, unflagged both |
| 08:41.00 | Lukian | repair bill for pvp combat? wut? |
| 08:41.13 | Ellipsis | you died to the vehicle |
| 08:41.14 | Ellipsis | = pve |
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| 08:42.36 | Ellipsis | runs back for the 4th time |
| 08:44.19 | Ellipsis | perfect...just as I res the server goes down again -.- |
| 08:44.25 | Ellipsis | maybe I should just go to bed >_> |
| 08:45.54 | Pkekyo| | sleep is for the weak |
| 08:46.28 | Ellipsis | I agree |
| 08:46.34 | Ellipsis | but corpse runs are worse |
| 08:50.02 | digmouse | I wish it was that the bilz beta authentication goes wrong, not something about my code |
| 08:51.27 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: true, but there's a thing in between :p |
| 08:51.46 | thul | liecks Pkekyo| and Ellipsis |
| 08:52.28 | Pkekyo| | ZOMG HAI THUL |
| 08:52.47 | thul | HAI HAI! |
| 08:52.54 | thul | I got a new toy today :-D |
| 08:53.10 | Pkekyo| | really? |
| 08:54.46 | Pkekyo| | well...tell us what it is then, so I can start hating and cursing at you |
| 08:54.59 | Ellipsis | and I can mock you both |
| 08:55.01 | thul | mohahaha, a Minolta Rokkor 58 1.2 |
| 08:55.39 | Pkekyo| | no idea what that means, but screw you anyways |
| 08:55.59 | thul | well, it is an extremely fast AND extremely sharp lens |
| 08:56.01 | thul | with great bokeh :-P |
| 08:56.32 | CIA-46 | 03darkimakuni * r80716 10CastYeller/announces/paladin.lua: |
| 08:56.32 | CIA-46 | CastYeller: |
| 08:56.32 | CIA-46 | - Wiki comment typo fix (mage -> paladin) |
| 08:57.40 | Pkekyo| | as previously mentioned, screw you |
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| 08:58.13 | Ellipsis | you're both dumb btw |
| 08:58.14 | Ellipsis | :) |
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| 08:59.08 | Pkekyo| | anyone fancy pasting me my quit message? |
| 08:59.50 | Punkie | ok |
| 09:00.07 | Punkie | there isn't one |
| 09:00.18 | Ellipsis | you just parted with no message :P |
| 09:00.32 | Pkekyo| | do I always do that? |
| 09:00.40 | thul | yeah |
| 09:00.42 | thul | you do! |
| 09:00.43 | Punkie | i dunno leave again |
| 09:00.46 | thul | and it hurts:( |
| 09:00.53 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 09:00.56 | thul | why do you just walk OUT ON US LIKE THAT?! |
| 09:01.07 | Punkie | ~whalenuke thul |
| 09:01.07 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around thul with his mind powers. |
| 09:01.09 | Pkekyo| | because I'M SO GODDAMN SEXY IN PYJAMAS! |
| 09:01.15 | Ellipsis | what thul said |
| 09:02.42 | Pkekyo| | guess my client is just generally weird |
| 09:03.06 | Ellipsis | licks Pkekyo| |
| 09:03.11 | Ellipsis | HAHA COOTIES |
| 09:03.23 | orionshock | grr, log over to live... and im looking for the last spot in raid.. and the RL goes off about how earlier when i loged in i was promoting ppl leaving by saying beta>live |
| 09:03.24 | Pkekyo| | cooties? elaborate? |
| 09:03.30 | Ellipsis | you has them now. |
| 09:03.41 | Pkekyo| | what is them? |
| 09:03.48 | thul | jentelus Pkekyo| |
| 09:04.01 | thul | that is what it is :-P |
| 09:04.02 | Pkekyo| | GEIF MOAR COOTARS |
| 09:04.04 | thul | AND YOU GOT IT!! |
| 09:04.17 | Pkekyo| | I don't see the problem? :p |
| 09:04.24 | thul | Cooties is a word in North American English, used by children, referring to a fictitious disease or condition, often infecting members of the opposite sex.[1] One catches cooties through any form of bodily contact, proximity, contact with an infected person's possessions, or third-party transmission. In prepubescent children, it effectively serves as a device for enforcing separation of the sexes. |
| 09:05.26 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo| lieks teh cooties zomg :< |
| 09:05.29 | Pkekyo| | wtf, why are SEK worth anything these days? |
| 09:05.51 | Ellipsis | it's not around here :P |
| 09:05.56 | Pkekyo| | lol |
| 09:06.04 | thul | 1 Norwegian krone = 1.18484232 Swedish kronor |
| 09:06.05 | thul | that is weird |
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| 09:06.19 | Pkekyo| | 1190 SEK = 1011,14 NOK....back in the days it would be like....800 NOK or something :( |
| 09:06.19 | thul | it was liek 1.50 a half year ago |
| 09:06.28 | Pkekyo| | WHO GAVE THE SWEDES MONIES?! BASTARDS |
| 09:06.34 | thul | takes Ellipsis to hawai |
| 09:06.47 | Ellipsis | whee \o/ |
| 09:07.04 | Pkekyo| | takes a polarbear to somalia |
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| 09:10.26 | Pkekyo| | any swedes here? |
| 09:12.12 | Fisker- | Ellipsis my Ellipsis |
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| 09:13.11 | Ellipsis | Fisker-, I Fisker- your Fisker- |
| 09:14.34 | Pkekyo| | wait...what? |
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| 09:20.58 | Ellipsis | bah, I hate when people don't invite me for group quests and I'm forced to solo it right in front of them :P |
| 09:21.06 | Pkekyo| | lol |
| 09:21.20 | Pkekyo| | been there, done that... should've rolled a female char x) |
| 09:21.43 | Ellipsis | rolled a female char, it doesn't help |
| 09:21.54 | Pkekyo| | weird |
| 09:22.03 | Pkekyo| | my mate made like 1k gold due to rolling a female char |
| 09:22.13 | Ellipsis | where do I sign up? |
| 09:22.33 | Pkekyo| | maybe it just works for guys pretending to be female, and not...female females |
| 09:23.13 | Ellipsis | isn't that a bit backwards? |
| 09:23.48 | Sole | female females probably dont make it obvious |
| 09:24.00 | Sole | whereas guys pretending to be female...well they make some people believe it |
| 09:24.06 | digmouse | I got some female friend play male characters.. |
| 09:24.25 | Ellipsis | ew, why would any girl do that? :P |
| 09:24.31 | Punkie | there was a dude in my guild who played a female char and also pretended to be female irl |
| 09:24.31 | digmouse | Idk |
| 09:24.33 | Pkekyo| | digmouse: and how does that work financially? :p |
| 09:24.56 | digmouse | Pkekyo: no idea... |
| 09:25.00 | Punkie | and also posted random pictures of some girl pretending it was him o.O |
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| 09:25.21 | Pkekyo| | lol |
| 09:25.29 | Pkekyo| | how much gold did it land him? :p |
| 09:25.43 | Punkie | no idea really, probably quite a bit |
| 09:25.59 | nevcairiel | So if i just want to build a fubar-like bar to plug my Databroker Plugins into, Fortress my best choice? |
| 09:28.28 | Punkie | nevcairiel: there's also buttonbin but i've never tried either |
| 09:29.02 | mjc | anyone bored? |
| 09:29.09 | steev | me |
| 09:29.10 | mjc | looking for feedback on my new blog design |
| 09:29.15 | mjc | http://325i.org/newdesign2.html |
| 09:29.37 | Ellipsis | zomg keylogger! |
| 09:29.40 | mjc | going to color it based on the site you came from... eg. google yahoo msn friendfeed |
| 09:29.43 | steev | nice f design |
| 09:29.46 | Kalroth_ | very black :p |
| 09:29.52 | steev | move search up to the top |
| 09:30.19 | mjc | Kalroth_: it will be colored blue when you come from facebook, green from google, etc. |
| 09:30.37 | mjc | and you will be able to switch it with the color bar at the bottom |
| 09:30.46 | mjc | not yet though |
| 09:30.58 | mjc | steev: search is the least used thing about my current design |
| 09:31.12 | mjc | steev: less than 1% of visitors use it |
| 09:31.34 | mjc | er, well, on the one prior to current. current has it off completely. LOL |
| 09:31.35 | Woodish | Ellipsis |
| 09:31.39 | Woodish | hello :D |
| 09:31.49 | Woodish | I got another pitbull question for you |
| 09:31.50 | Punkie | mjc: it looks tubby |
| 09:32.01 | Woodish | as im in moddle of configuring |
| 09:32.07 | mjc | Punkie: tubby? |
| 09:32.20 | Punkie | like out of proportion |
| 09:32.23 | mjc | oh also I haven't seen it on IE6 yet, if anyone would mind chucking me a screenshot |
| 09:32.45 | Woodish | I wonder if it is possible to just add the cast icon with dogtag's someone else then on the castbar? |
| 09:33.01 | Woodish | I hope you understand what I mean |
| 09:35.09 | Ellipsis | mmmhm |
| 09:35.20 | Ellipsis | well, I don't remember whether the cast icon tag was ever added |
| 09:35.23 | Ellipsis | it was planned though |
| 09:37.10 | mjc | Punkie: it should look like this give or take: http://media.325i.org/images/layout.png |
| 09:37.37 | Punkie | that's exactly what I saw in the link |
| 09:37.55 | mjc | ok, so there aren't any rendering issues at least |
| 09:38.09 | Punkie | I'm using Safari just if you wanted to know :) |
| 09:38.11 | mjc | the problem I have with most blogs is the font is too small, so I was trying to change that :P |
| 09:38.16 | mjc | yeah I designed it in saf |
| 09:38.16 | Punkie | that's alright |
| 09:38.23 | Punkie | I think the RSS icons are just too chunky really |
| 09:38.25 | mjc | ah |
| 09:38.26 | mjc | yeah |
| 09:38.34 | Punkie | might be the problem |
| 09:38.48 | mjc | will likely make them smaller or move them down 1em, maybe they are just too close to the syndicate link |
| 09:39.11 | CIA-46 | 03Copystring 07WotLK * r80717 10YurrCombatLog/Core.lua: |
| 09:39.11 | CIA-46 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 09:39.11 | CIA-46 | - make overHealing work |
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| 09:41.04 | Punkie | mjc: it might look better if they were the same height as the text beside them |
| 09:41.05 | Punkie | maybe |
| 09:41.13 | mjc | ah |
| 09:41.24 | mjc | I had the text vertically centered in my illustrator version |
| 09:41.26 | mjc | I think taht's it |
| 09:42.09 | Woodish | Couldnt find it in the dogtag help Ellipsis, so I guess not yet |
| 09:43.49 | Ellipsis | :( sowwy |
| 09:43.57 | Ellipsis | it's probably about 60% my fault |
| 09:46.02 | CIA-46 | 03Copystring 07WotLK * r80718 10YurrCombatLog/Core.lua: |
| 09:46.02 | CIA-46 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 09:46.02 | CIA-46 | - small Fix for overhealing |
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| 09:52.14 | Fisker- | FISHERMANS FRIEEEEEEEND |
| 09:52.26 | Fisker- | How would drinking a potion help my fishing? ;_; |
| 09:52.31 | Fisker- | moar like fisherman's enemy |
| 09:53.10 | Ellipsis | goes fishing for Fisker-s |
| 09:53.15 | Fisker- | nahuh |
| 09:53.30 | Ellipsis | yahuh |
| 09:54.00 | Fisker- | nahuh |
| 09:54.06 | Fisker- | who made the addon btw? |
| 09:54.08 | Fisker- | gotta rant |
| 09:54.22 | mjc | heh |
| 09:55.06 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo] |
| 09:56.30 | Fisker- | [Ammo] imma coming! |
| 09:58.05 | Fisker- | [Ammo] did it for the lulz |
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| 10:07.48 | steev | is the pallypower author around? do they come around? |
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| 10:13.21 | Fisker- | oh and now i really hate you Arrowmaster |
| 10:13.29 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 10:17.09 | Sole | oh yeah strawberry milk |
| 10:19.30 | Sole | woo 3rd gold medal for Nz |
| 10:19.35 | CIA-46 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3-WotLK * r80719 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: properly load positions of the frames again |
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| 10:20.53 | CIA-46 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r80720 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: properly load positions of the frames again |
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| 10:36.32 | orionshock | sylvanaar: ping |
| 10:36.49 | sylvanaar | orionshock pong |
| 10:37.08 | orionshock | re:wowaceFutreThread, you know that's not what i mean :P |
| 10:37.35 | sylvanaar | orionshock what did you mean (i really dont know) |
| 10:38.30 | orionshock | a standardized method for using embedded libs ect, like written down. covering all the aspects that a lib and addon have to have inorder to be functional. |
| 10:39.08 | orionshock | atm most of it is what you could call "common knowledge" but it's shakey, like how we treat libstub and CBH |
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| 10:39.52 | sylvanaar | oh - herding cats |
| 10:40.40 | CIA-46 | 03nevcairiel * r80721 10Broker_SysMon/Broker_SysMon.lua: Broker_SysMon: collect garbage when clicking the Memory plugin |
| 10:41.43 | orionshock | yes... but atleast we'd have a cage to put them in now :P |
| 10:41.50 | orionshock | << Idealist |
| 10:42.01 | sylvanaar | << pragmatist |
| 10:42.06 | nevcairiel | orionshock: we will definately write something once the new page is up, because alot stuff will change how that is supposed to be used (and everyone has to basically redo the externals and all anyway) |
| 10:45.09 | sylvanaar | why does cbh pass an extra argument at the beginning of every callback? |
| 10:45.26 | nevcairiel | extra argument? |
| 10:45.32 | sylvanaar | the name of the event |
| 10:45.43 | sylvanaar | it gets passed |
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| 10:45.50 | nevcairiel | because thats how blizzard events work, and we just adapt |
| 10:46.29 | sylvanaar | hrm, i guess I mean, its an extra parameter vs. the same thing under aceevent-2.0 |
| 10:46.37 | chexsum_ | why not let the programmer decide |
| 10:46.56 | nevcairiel | AceEvent-2.0 was totally broken not sending the event name |
| 10:47.09 | nevcairiel | it was such a hack to get the current event |
| 10:47.33 | nevcairiel | its so much easier to just add a event argument in front of all others and just ignore that |
| 10:47.37 | nevcairiel | then the other way around ;) |
| 10:48.03 | sylvanaar | yeah, thats what i do |
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| 10:49.41 | orionshock | sylvanaar: also in CBH, you can map the same function to several events |
| 10:49.49 | orionshock | look at LDB |
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| 10:51.53 | sylvanaar | yeah, it makes sense - it just creates such insideous little bugs when upgrading older code from ace2 |
| 10:58.28 | orionshock | true |
| 11:02.58 | orionshock | Xinhuan: ping |
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| 11:04.10 | orionshock | Xinhuan: have you checked out routes and tom tom playing nicely recently? in not getting it to move to the next waypoint when it hits the 20yrd distance.. no error :( |
| 11:04.37 | Xinhuan | no i haven't |
| 11:04.49 | Xinhuan | i haven't updated tomtom for 2 months as it is |
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| 11:05.11 | sylvanaar | so you think if i use the name Prat_ModulesThatUseLotsOfCPU i can put my onupdate based stuff in there without having to deal with "omg cpu use" |
| 11:05.20 | orionshock | ... me thinks that clad|sleep might have changed something... |
| 11:05.36 | Xinhuan | whats your tomtom revision number |
| 11:06.42 | orionshock | eh |
| 11:07.03 | orionshock | can't find it, one sec |
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| 11:07.15 | orionshock | 164* |
| 11:07.52 | Woodish | Ellipsis, im working on my UI now |
| 11:08.01 | Woodish | I got a screen for you, you know how it did look |
| 11:08.10 | Woodish | want you to tell me if im improving or ruining |
| 11:08.18 | Woodish | I might not be objective |
| 11:08.32 | Woodish | http://img387.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot082008130551im3.jpg |
| 11:08.33 | Woodish | there it is |
| 11:09.12 | Sole | improving imo |
| 11:09.16 | Woodish | orionshock you saw my old screen aswell |
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| 11:09.20 | Woodish | ok good Sole |
| 11:09.30 | orionshock | no |
| 11:09.37 | Sole | although the solid color cast bar bugs me |
| 11:09.51 | Sole | even a good old Smooth texture will do it |
| 11:10.03 | orionshock | Woodish: you don't want my opinion |
| 11:10.12 | Woodish | Sole, good you mention it |
| 11:10.16 | Woodish | however |
| 11:10.19 | Woodish | there is a problem |
| 11:10.29 | Sole | however, its still a bit cluttered imo |
| 11:10.33 | Sole | too much info |
| 11:10.56 | Woodish | its for arena, I need to see with big buttons when I have my hots on and so on... |
| 11:10.59 | Sole | for example the buff icons on your unit frames and then the buff bars under them |
| 11:11.02 | Woodish | and I need to see bars for my hots |
| 11:11.10 | Woodish | yes |
| 11:11.11 | Woodish | but |
| 11:11.28 | Woodish | buff buttons show all buffs, bars are only my hots and buffs like innervate |
| 11:11.30 | orionshock | Woodish: just ask yourself, do you like it? |
| 11:11.39 | Woodish | I like it, but I want to improve it |
| 11:12.10 | Woodish | buttons show all buffs on unit, bars are only my hots as I said. I cant change that really |
| 11:12.15 | Woodish | i need bars for hots |
| 11:12.39 | Sole | the important thing with a UI is that you become congruent with it |
| 11:13.02 | Woodish | yes |
| 11:13.18 | Sole | and thats different for different folks of course |
| 11:13.22 | Woodish | I think I like the big bars on my right |
| 11:13.38 | Woodish | they show my debuffs wich is important in arena, and they show HoTs on myself, no other buffs |
| 11:13.38 | Sole | yeah Id like them too |
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| 11:13.58 | Sole | you probably want other buffs in there too |
| 11:14.10 | Woodish | im going to filter in what I need |
| 11:14.12 | Woodish | im whitelisting |
| 11:14.35 | Woodish | I dont want like, 55 minutes Mark of the Wild |
| 11:14.43 | Woodish | and Arcane Intellect you know... |
| 11:14.46 | Sole | part of the reason I never used the moving portraits is because the animations always caught my attention which isnt what I wanted in arena :) |
| 11:14.47 | Woodish | just clutter |
| 11:15.03 | Woodish | its true, true true |
| 11:15.41 | Woodish | I wish I could make them grayscale |
| 11:15.45 | Woodish | would be cool |
| 11:16.27 | Woodish | hum |
| 11:16.37 | Woodish | "spell not ready yet" in the middle of the screen |
| 11:16.48 | Woodish | I have errormonster but it has stopped blocking these messages :( |
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| 11:20.51 | Adirelle|work | hey, didn't saw that : http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=13376.0 |
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| 11:21.18 | Punkie | which bit, it's a long post |
| 11:21.36 | Adirelle|work | the bit about TourGuide, Tekkub's having some ads |
| 11:21.45 | Punkie | :D |
| 11:22.14 | Punkie | the screenshot is of TourGuide 'skinnered' |
| 11:22.15 | Punkie | awesome |
| 11:22.49 | kenlyric | ads in tourguide? |
| 11:23.07 | kenlyric | fabulous vacations to tanaris? |
| 11:23.12 | CIA-46 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80722 10Prat/pullouts/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 11:23.12 | CIA-46 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 11:23.12 | CIA-46 | create pullouts folder for optional components that need to be "pulled out" |
| 11:23.12 | CIA-46 | and placed in the same directory as the addon. Added Debug, and |
| 11:23.12 | CIA-46 | HighCPUUsageModules. |
| 11:24.08 | Adirelle|work | kenlyric: not IN TG, but about TG... |
| 11:25.24 | Adirelle|work | the main trouble I have with TG is that place names aren't localized (and well, when you click on a quest name, it doesn't open the quest log on the right quest) |
| 11:25.36 | Woodish | I hate this |
| 11:25.44 | Woodish | god damn Sole you cause me alot of problem |
| 11:25.53 | Sole | feel free to ignore me |
| 11:25.58 | Sole | a lot of people do :) |
| 11:26.07 | Woodish | its so sick, I change texture in quartz. But the list of textures doesnt fit on my screen |
| 11:26.14 | Woodish | Smooth v.2 is outside my screen |
| 11:26.19 | Woodish | pissing me off! |
| 11:27.28 | Punkie | delete some textures? |
| 11:29.07 | Woodish | edited in LUA |
| 11:29.08 | Woodish | HAH |
| 11:29.10 | Woodish | <-pro |
| 11:29.11 | krka | Woodish: Dude, it's not an acronym! |
| 11:29.14 | kenlyric | it does most of the time.. |
| 11:29.22 | kenlyric | except of course when you don't have the quest. |
| 11:29.24 | p3lim | ~seen vhaarr |
| 11:29.26 | purl | vhaarr <n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19d 19h 25m 31s ago, saying: 'Kaelten: ah, well I can poke you from time to time :P'. |
| 11:30.26 | Punkie | ~lart Woodish |
| 11:30.26 | purl | hooks into a hydrant and hoses Woodish down |
| 11:33.25 | erikh | ~lart me |
| 11:33.25 | purl | holds erikh to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails |
| 11:33.30 | erikh | woohoo! |
| 11:33.38 | erikh | shares a cig with purl |
| 11:39.41 | orionshock | any sugestions for a resto druid doing blood boil? |
| 11:41.46 | sylvanaar | wow rabbit's been going a long time |
| 11:42.24 | nevcairiel | he was here on the weekend |
| 11:42.31 | sylvanaar | different nick? |
| 11:42.32 | nevcairiel | purl probably didnt pick it up |
| 11:42.36 | sylvanaar | ah |
| 11:42.38 | nevcairiel | nah purl was down =P |
| 11:42.53 | Woodish | ~seen ckknight |
| 11:42.54 | purl | ckknight is currently on #waruidev (10h 25m 48s) #norganna (10h 25m 48s) #wowuidev (10h 25m 48s) #wowace (10h 25m 48s) #curseforge (10h 25m 48s). Has said a total of 16 messages. Is idling for 6h 24m 15s, last said: 'see'. |
| 11:43.12 | Woodish | ^^ |
| 11:43.21 | sylvanaar | ~down purl |
| 11:43.29 | sylvanaar | ^^ |
| 11:43.42 | sylvanaar | purl, down |
| 11:43.43 | purl | hmm... down is hell, or the enemy's gate |
| 11:44.08 | sylvanaar | purl, down is also where you were last weekened |
| 11:44.08 | purl | sylvanaar: okay |
| 11:44.29 | sylvanaar | ~down |
| 11:44.30 | purl | from memory, down is hell, or the enemy's gate, or where you were last weekened |
| 11:44.46 | sylvanaar | good enough |
| 11:45.15 | orionshock | lol |
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| 11:47.52 | sylvanaar | i dont want to go to work...<sigh> |
| 11:49.56 | orionshock | sylvanaar: guess this isn't a good time to tell you i have today off :D |
| 11:50.08 | Obelixprime | lol tekkub on mmo-champion |
| 11:50.37 | sylvanaar | orionshock =( |
| 11:52.10 | orionshock | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=553314ffe30144157615c49b52abd8f1&topic=13299.0 |
| 11:52.14 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:52.16 | orionshock | LOL |
| 11:52.24 | sb | its not 'lol', its ./cry :p |
| 11:52.49 | sb | should be limited to engineers |
| 11:52.55 | Obelixprime | i want my magic carpet |
| 11:53.03 | orionshock | well the outland/northrind restriction kinda blows. |
| 11:53.08 | sb | hm |
| 11:53.13 | sb | # You can also use it in Northrend and Outland. <-- ALSO |
| 11:53.22 | sb | mhh |
| 11:53.27 | sb | dont know about the tooltip :) |
| 11:53.58 | Obelixprime | wtb wotlk trailer early |
| 11:54.03 | Fisker- | [Ammo] i have you now |
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| 12:00.46 | Hypnotoad | nicks don't expire on freenode? |
| 12:00.55 | p3lim | [Ammo]: is there some restriction to buffs/debuffs shown while using oUF_DebuffHighlight still? |
| 12:01.01 | Groktar | it said hypnotoad was last seen 2 1/2 years ago |
| 12:01.33 | Xelo | That's complete and utter bullsh- ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD |
| 12:02.49 | erikh | heh |
| 12:03.02 | sylvanaar | good post nevcairiel - btw I'm selling tickets to phanx's response on that thread... |
| 12:03.20 | Punkie | www.r33b.net |
| 12:03.56 | Woodish | Anyone familar with RBM here? |
| 12:04.20 | Xelo | Somewhat |
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| 12:06.38 | Josh_Borke | Groktar: check the freenode website, you can have a nick released |
| 12:06.46 | Woodish | Xelo |
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| 12:06.51 | Xelo | hi |
| 12:07.06 | Woodish | I dont have any options? I use RBM and RBM_AbilityWatch |
| 12:07.19 | Woodish | When I right click for options to start configuring |
| 12:07.24 | Woodish | it says no config loaded. |
| 12:07.31 | Woodish | and there is nothing :( |
| 12:07.45 | Xelo | You need RBM_Config |
| 12:07.49 | Woodish | I got 2 frames I can move around, thats all, nothing to put in them |
| 12:07.55 | Woodish | aha :) |
| 12:09.14 | Woodish | ill try again now then :P ty mate Xelo |
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| 12:10.25 | watchout | test |
| 12:10.30 | watchout | hmm |
| 12:10.59 | watchout | anyone ever used irssi? |
| 12:11.13 | |Pixel| | o |
| 12:11.15 | |Pixel| | o/ |
| 12:12.19 | Fisker- | .o/ |
| 12:12.31 | Josh_Borke | watchout: yes, i have |
| 12:12.52 | watchout | did you try it over ssh using that ssh secure shell thingy for windush? |
| 12:13.04 | watchout | it's messing up somehow |
| 12:13.24 | Josh_Borke | if you are talking about something like putty, make sure you set your terminal to UTF-8 |
| 12:15.20 | watchout | hmm |
| 12:15.43 | watchout | stupid thing won't change more than the last line |
| 12:17.50 | Josh_Borke | huh? |
| 12:17.56 | Josh_Borke | i haven't ever experience that |
| 12:18.52 | watchout | hmm, I guess it's the ssh client, it's rubbish |
| 12:19.05 | watchout | just trying putty for testing |
| 12:19.22 | Josh_Borke | i use putty + irssi all the time |
| 12:19.24 | Josh_Borke | never had any problems |
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| 12:20.13 | watchout|putty | test |
| 12:20.22 | watchout|putty | oh yes, that seems better |
| 12:22.21 | watchout | so, at last IRC at work :D |
| 12:23.38 | dodga | put your irssi in a screen session :> |
| 12:23.44 | dodga | -> teh ubarwin |
| 12:24.04 | watchout | does it work out? screen seems to block some escape strings |
| 12:24.24 | dodga | hm, i do it that way |
| 12:24.46 | dodga | no probs with putty under Windows or ssh from OS X terminal |
| 12:25.00 | dodga | no special setting in screen, too |
| 12:25.06 | |Kev| | afaik, everyone who uses irssi, does so in a screen ;) |
| 12:25.18 | dodga | ah, except nonblock on and defnonblock on |
| 12:25.19 | watchout | well ofc the best way, but I'll have to get familiar with the commands |
| 12:26.07 | watchout | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:26.37 | erikh | watchout: if you want, I have some scripts which make that nice. |
| 12:26.44 | erikh | also you can do the basic stuff with /bind |
| 12:26.51 | erikh | e.g., /bind ^N window next |
| 12:27.07 | |Kev| | watchout: the only one you typically need is alt-a ;) |
| 12:27.20 | erikh | the script I wrote will take you to the highest priority windows first, then trickle down priorities. |
| 12:27.43 | erikh | the result is that windows which just have irc protocol chatter never get hit. |
| 12:27.49 | JoshBorke | ha, i didn't even think to try ^N and ^P |
| 12:27.52 | erikh | and you always go to windows where you're requested first |
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| 12:27.59 | watchout | I'd be happy with a /window shortcut already :D |
| 12:28.02 | JoshBorke | ooo, pastey that script |
| 12:28.26 | |Kev| | alt-1-0, alt-qw...op, together with alt-a are almost all I use |
| 12:28.41 | |Kev| | apart from using /w nick to take me to the msg window for that person |
| 12:28.42 | erikh | JoshBorke: http://erik.hollensbe.org/code/perl/irssi-scripts/ |
| 12:28.44 | JoshBorke | hm, using alt in gnome terminal with multiple tabs doesn't work |
| 12:28.45 | erikh | here's a bunch that i wrote |
| 12:28.47 | erikh | if you want to download them |
| 12:28.49 | |Kev| | which might be an alias |
| 12:28.52 | watchout | |Kev|: oh yes, alt-1..0 wins |
| 12:28.57 | erikh | click on the one you want and hack /download on to the end of the url |
| 12:29.03 | erikh | (Wrote it into the app, but never bothered to make a link for it) |
| 12:29.04 | |Kev| | yes, I have /w bound to /window goto |
| 12:29.21 | erikh | 'cycleactive' is the one with the functionality I discussed. |
| 12:29.29 | erikh | however, if you use an xterm you may appreciate titlebar as well |
| 12:29.53 | watchout | omg, how do you copy something out of putty... |
| 12:30.13 | JoshBorke | watchout: highlight, then go to the other window and paste |
| 12:30.24 | JoshBorke | when you highlight something in putty it automagically gets put in your clipboard |
| 12:30.45 | erikh | anyways, if you use the scripts, let me know what you think. |
| 12:30.49 | |Kev| | and be careful right-clicking in putty :) |
| 12:30.51 | watchout | ah ofc, can't seem to get used to the X-Window highlight copy thing |
| 12:30.59 | watchout | thanks JoshBorke |
| 12:31.04 | JoshBorke | well, it's just putty is weird like that |
| 12:31.12 | JoshBorke | i can't seem to paste into vim :-/ |
| 12:31.25 | erikh | JoshBorke: you probably have the mouse support enabled |
| 12:31.30 | mitchnull | josh: make suereyou're in insert mode |
| 12:31.36 | erikh | hold on, i'll get you that part of my .vimrc |
| 12:31.41 | Josh_Borke | mitchnull: yes, i was in insert mode |
| 12:31.45 | watchout | JoshBorke: try on any linux, x-window has 3 or for copy/paste buffers |
| 12:31.46 | Josh_Borke | erikh: i almost certainly do |
| 12:31.55 | watchout | *four |
| 12:31.55 | mitchnull | josh: are you on linux? |
| 12:32.03 | Josh_Borke | mitchnull: i use both platforms |
| 12:32.14 | Josh_Borke | sometimes i'm in windows, sometimes i'm in linux |
| 12:32.21 | mitchnull | josh: if so, middle click is the paste, not right click (just in case...) |
| 12:32.26 | erikh | Josh_Borke: try :set mouse="" |
| 12:32.33 | erikh | :help mouse for other options. |
| 12:32.47 | mitchnull | if all else fails, "*p |
| 12:33.01 | mitchnull | that should paste in the clipboard |
| 12:33.08 | erikh | only if you're using gvim |
| 12:33.15 | erikh | which wouldn't exhibit this issue anyways |
| 12:33.15 | mitchnull | erm, could be |
| 12:33.40 | erikh | he's talking about the xterm extensions that interface with the x server, which never seem to effing work |
| 12:34.02 | mitchnull | never had such issues with xterm |
| 12:34.08 | winkiller | yy pp ftw |
| 12:34.16 | JoshBorke | more specifically i mean putty->screen->vim :-D |
| 12:34.22 | erikh | mitchnull: it has to be enabled on a per-application basis |
| 12:34.34 | erikh | and some linux installs turn it on by default |
| 12:34.39 | erikh | (for vim) |
| 12:34.40 | watchout | winkiller: not really useful if you want to paste an url from firefox in the console :) |
| 12:34.52 | winkiller | klipper then |
| 12:34.54 | Josh_Borke | i have a vim setup that i copied from another user |
| 12:34.59 | erikh | ah |
| 12:34.59 | mitchnull | never used mouse "inside" xterm (apart from standard xterm cut-n-paste) either, so that could be the reason |
| 12:35.11 | erikh | yeah, it's not often an issue |
| 12:35.24 | erikh | but it is nice when you want to click around in links and w3m |
| 12:36.02 | erikh | w3m can do images in some terms too |
| 12:36.02 | erikh | it's weird. |
| 12:36.02 | mitchnull | erikh: use a normal browser if you're in X ;) |
| 12:36.02 | watchout | erikh: in ascii art? :D |
| 12:36.02 | erikh | mitchnull: i'm not forwarding firefox from a server :) |
| 12:36.02 | erikh | watchout: no, actual images. |
| 12:36.16 | |Kev| | I use elinks when I have to console-browse |
| 12:36.29 | mitchnull | I'm stuck with lynx :) |
| 12:36.37 | mitchnull | although it tends to be less available |
| 12:36.39 | watchout | erikh: but forwarding rocks |
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| 12:36.47 | erikh | watchout: no, no, no it doesn't |
| 12:36.56 | erikh | especially when you are 2k miles from the server you're forwarding from |
| 12:37.12 | Josh_Borke | X11 forwarding is very terrible some times |
| 12:37.13 | watchout | but then links won't be much b etter |
| 12:37.24 | Josh_Borke | i use it on a 100 Mb lan and it is still terrible some times |
| 12:37.31 | erikh | yeah. |
| 12:37.37 | erikh | x forwarding is very chatty. |
| 12:37.54 | |Kev| | x forwarding is quite unpleasant, usually |
| 12:37.57 | erikh | and to complicate matters, if you want to do it securely you need to involve ssh |
| 12:38.01 | erikh | which just slows things down. |
| 12:38.02 | |Kev| | nodesktop works pretty well, though |
| 12:38.13 | erikh | i don't like X on my servers anyways |
| 12:38.35 | erikh | even though, it never fails, some freakin' app will think I want it |
| 12:39.24 | watchout | i often used it on university to get to some restricted pages since they only had LYNX installed on the ssh servers... |
| 12:39.36 | erikh | do those servers have compilers? |
| 12:39.39 | erikh | you can probably build elinks on them. |
| 12:40.11 | watchout | erikh: come on, would you put a compiler on a "public" server for students... |
| 12:40.19 | erikh | depends |
| 12:40.26 | erikh | my ENG servers had them |
| 12:40.29 | watchout | then, ofc I wouldn't put X on it either :D |
| 12:40.31 | erikh | but this was like 10 years ago |
| 12:40.34 | Adirelle|work | Josh_Borke: 1) you can tell putty to use middle button to paste in "selection" option, 2) check the "disable application keypad mode" in "features" to avoid trouble with screen or vi, 3) I use Xchat with SSH tunnels (actually myentunnel) |
| 12:40.53 | erikh | nobody teaches C anymore anyways |
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| 12:41.00 | watchout | wrong :) |
| 12:41.14 | erikh | watchout: what, in a 400 level class? |
| 12:41.15 | watchout | had a course where I needed it |
| 12:41.31 | watchout | actually 2 |
| 12:41.39 | erikh | i hate to make this sound like a "when I was a kid" story, but when I started college, 101 was C |
| 12:41.52 | erikh | you learned how to make linked lists 2 weeks into the course |
| 12:42.02 | watchout | compilter programming and microcontroller - some atmega type |
| 12:42.27 | Josh_Borke | erikh: yea, well, when i started college i had to learn scheme! |
| 12:42.33 | Adirelle|work | I learned C and motorola 6xxx assembler |
| 12:42.34 | erikh | Josh_Borke: MIT? |
| 12:42.41 | Josh_Borke | i still have nightmares about the parens attacking me |
| 12:42.45 | Josh_Borke | erikh: Georgia Tech |
| 12:42.48 | erikh | or just dragon book based curriculum |
| 12:42.50 | watchout | and for microcontroller programming, C was the "high level", we started out coding in assembler... |
| 12:43.15 | erikh | Josh_Borke: great way to learn though, scheme's syntax is really light |
| 12:43.20 | Josh_Borke | it went scheme->java->C->No more programming lclasses for me!! woohoo!! |
| 12:43.26 | erikh | heh |
| 12:43.32 | watchout | luckily the atmega is a RISC :P |
| 12:43.33 | Josh_Borke | yea, no, it did a good job of teaching basic programming concepts |
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| 12:43.51 | erikh | yeah, MITs first year is building a scheme compiler |
| 12:43.55 | Adirelle|work | when I had my first assembler course, I already knewn 65xx and 680xx assembler and coded some demo on Atari ^^ |
| 12:44.14 | erikh | heh |
| 12:44.16 | Adirelle|work | s/knewn/knew/ |
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| 12:44.40 | Josh_Borke | erikh: heh, my C class project was to write a scheme lexer/parser |
| 12:44.49 | erikh | but yeah, finding that kind of course in the first two years is next to impossible these days |
| 12:44.51 | Josh_Borke | erikh: now they teach in jython, some weird java/python hybrid |
| 12:44.59 | erikh | unless you're going to a very nice tech school |
| 12:45.00 | |Kev| | my compiler class was to write a lisp compiler in java, targeting mips |
| 12:45.20 | erikh | I played with jython at one job, pretty neat stuff |
| 12:45.27 | erikh | jruby intrigues me too. |
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| 12:46.50 | watchout | just ruby for java or some improved stuff? |
| 12:46.57 | erikh | it's ruby in the JVM |
| 12:47.18 | watchout | hm... if java just wasnt so terribly slow |
| 12:47.20 | erikh | ruby that interacts with anything that implements java bytecode |
| 12:47.30 | erikh | in many cases java is pretty snappy |
| 12:47.33 | erikh | startup is a bear, though. |
| 12:47.59 | erikh | jython is the same thing, but for python. |
| 12:48.38 | Adirelle|work | erikh: it compiles python into jave bytecode ? |
| 12:49.17 | watchout | well thats an odd way :P |
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| 12:50.10 | Adirelle|work | I don't know if it's very interesting or just crap ^^ |
| 12:50.10 | watchout | for me the only reason for using java is Eclipse.. |
| 12:50.19 | erikh | Adirelle|work: correct |
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| 12:52.15 | Adirelle|work | watchout: having worked on both Java and PHP web applications, I have a slightly preference for Java |
| 12:52.34 | watchout | Adirelle|work: tomcat? |
| 12:52.58 | Adirelle|work | or whatever j2ee server you like |
| 12:53.26 | Adirelle|work | libs like Spring Framework, Struts2, Hibernate are a big plus to me |
| 12:53.27 | watchout | tomcat seems oddly complicated and hardly debuggable to me, I hate it |
| 12:54.57 | watchout | I know that PHP is really weird for coding but you get great - FAST - results in a really short time |
| 12:54.59 | Adirelle|work | it's true that is quite oddly, even if it seems to behave a little better with version 5 and 6 |
| 12:55.06 | Adirelle|work | s/ly// |
| 12:55.51 | watchout | who put that purl here :P |
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| 12:58.39 | orionshock | woot first kill on Bloodboil :D |
| 12:59.13 | steev | stupid question but, what is CoR? |
| 12:59.15 | steev | curse of |
| 12:59.23 | nevcairiel | recklesness? |
| 12:59.25 | steev | ahh |
| 12:59.25 | orionshock | recklessness |
| 12:59.26 | steev | okay |
| 12:59.38 | steev | never had a warlock, so not sure what all curses they are, okay |
| 13:02.15 | watchout | everyone should have a warlock... |
| 13:02.27 | mitchnull | warlocks are boring |
| 13:05.33 | steev | i'd rather play my ret pally than a warlock |
| 13:06.08 | watchout | hey no inssults please :P |
| 13:07.05 | orionshock | locks are lame IMO |
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| 13:08.27 | watchout | hmm, how do you bring up the /who list in irssi in a ... more useful style than that of the server window? |
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| 13:11.05 | steev | watchout: no idea, i've never wanted to /who in irc before |
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| 13:13.19 | watchout | steev: you never want to know if person XY is there? |
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| 13:15.44 | balstor | steev warlocks have 3 curses "I Win" "You Fail" and "Run like a dog" |
| 13:16.08 | njal | anybody have any pointers as to how I should make my addon extendable (much like fubar does with all its extensions, I'd like to enable people to write extensions to my addon) -- having some problems understanding how fubar really does it |
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| 13:16.48 | watchout | depends... |
| 13:16.53 | orionshock | imo, fubar uses magic and hackery to accomplish it's goals |
| 13:17.08 | njal | scanned (relatively quickly) through fubarplugin, but can't understand why its "subclasses" (if I can call it that) gets "instantiated"/used, but not the fubarplugin itself |
| 13:17.27 | Josh_Borke | njal: perhaps you should look at the simpler LDB model |
| 13:17.38 | njal | LDB? |
| 13:18.00 | orionshock | Josh_Borke: LDB and fubar are totaly different models, wouldn't call one a "simplified" version of the other... |
| 13:18.07 | njal | I'm considering having a "MyAddon.plugins" table that others can assign their plugins to |
| 13:18.14 | watchout | njal: what do you want the plug-ins to be able to do? |
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| 13:21.05 | njal | I dont really want to go into the specifics of my addon (hopefully a "new" idea for an addon that I'd like to realize and be the first to release), but I'm going to call a few functions on the plugins in order to determine the functionality of the addon (and the plugins might want to be configurable too, but that seems trivial given AceOptions) |
| 13:21.52 | orionshock | njal: well trust me, if there is an idea, there is usualy an addon that already does it :\ |
| 13:23.42 | njal | hehe, well, yeah, there is an addon that does what I'm doing, but its limited in its functionality, has the wrong mode of operation (in my opinion, anyway), isnt extendable by any means and is only made to support one class -- so its hopefully going to "catch" on -- keeping my hopes up at least ;) |
| 13:23.44 | Josh_Borke | njal: a very basic system would be: 1) Addon loads up 2) Plugin loads up 3) plugin put itself in a table provided by addon 4) plugin calls function to notify addon it has loaded |
| 13:24.37 | njal | Josh_Borke: then my question is: if I put my addon as a dependency for the plugin, my addon will finish loading first, right? |
| 13:24.57 | Josh_Borke | njal: right |
| 13:25.04 | orionshock | njal: load order is about 100% customizeable |
| 13:25.32 | njal | from the .toc file, right? |
| 13:25.53 | orionshock | .toc file, the framework, design methods |
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| 13:25.57 | orionshock | you name it |
| 13:26.01 | njal | ok |
| 13:26.58 | orionshock | classical structure states: Core Loads, Core-OnInit, Modules-OnInit.., Core-OnEnable, Modules-OnEnable --> Events BAU |
| 13:27.03 | njal | I'm a pretty seasoned coder, but new to lua, so I'm still confused by the SomeThing:func notation and its OO model |
| 13:27.19 | Josh_Borke | oo model blows monkey chunks |
| 13:27.21 | orionshock | easy |
| 13:27.35 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:27.52 | orionshock | but in the 2nd form you get a special local variable called "self" that references the table |
| 13:28.12 | njal | so unless I start doing subclassing, I might as well use table.func |
| 13:28.28 | orionshock | sorta |
| 13:28.30 | orionshock | alot of ppl use the : syntax |
| 13:28.35 | orionshock | ppl feel it's easier to read |
| 13:29.19 | mitchnull | easier to write, too |
| 13:29.42 | orionshock | infact, look at acegui3 widges, all the "Class-Functions" are written as standalone local functions |
| 13:29.57 | orionshock | ie: <funcName>(self, ...) end |
| 13:30.08 | orionshock | then attached to a table later... but meh |
| 13:30.54 | njal | coming from my python background, "magic" selfs doesn't sound too inviting |
| 13:31.05 | orionshock | but that was to avoid making a bajillion function closeures |
| 13:31.14 | Adirelle|work2 | there is no magic things in method: either an explicit self or a explicit ":" |
| 13:32.17 | orionshock | ^^ true, just writing style i think |
| 13:32.23 | Adirelle|work2 | I think you can do addonCode:replace(':(%w+)\(', '.%1(self,') |
| 13:32.29 | Adirelle|work2 | and the code works the same |
| 13:32.32 | orionshock | just don't mix : & . syntax w/o knowing wtf your talking about |
| 13:33.08 | Adirelle|work2 | lua> "function foo:bar()":replace(':(%w+)%(', '.%1(self,') |
| 13:33.08 | lua_bot | Adirelle|work2: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '"function foo:bar()"' |
| 13:33.16 | Adirelle|work2 | lua> ("function foo:bar()"):replace(':(%w+)%(', '.%1(self,') |
| 13:33.17 | lua_bot | Adirelle|work2: luabot:1: attempt to call method 'replace' (a nil value) |
| 13:33.22 | Adirelle|work2 | gah |
| 13:33.33 | Adirelle|work2 | oh, call me stupid |
| 13:33.38 | Adirelle|work2 | lua> ("function foo:bar()"):gsub(':(%w+)%(', '.%1(self,') |
| 13:33.39 | lua_bot | Adirelle|work2: function foo.bar(self,), 1 |
| 13:33.45 | Adirelle|work2 | almost... |
| 13:34.03 | orionshock | njal: imo, take apart a simple addon or write one to start with before jumping into something complicated |
| 13:34.40 | Adirelle|work2 | and don't look at Ace3 library codes unless you REALLY have to do so, there are rather complicated things here |
| 13:35.03 | orionshock | well, AceEvent3 and CBH are OK.. rest no.. |
| 13:35.08 | Josh_Borke | what is moneytrail and where can i see a SS of it? |
| 13:35.18 | [Ammo] | on wowinterface josh |
| 13:35.22 | Josh_Borke | you lie ammo |
| 13:35.28 | [Ammo] | I don't |
| 13:35.45 | Josh_Borke | searching for moneytrail returns no results! |
| 13:35.57 | [Ammo] | search on Money Trail |
| 13:36.05 | [Ammo] | wowinterface has a shit searchengine :p |
| 13:36.25 | mitchnull | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8954-MoneyTrail.html |
| 13:37.18 | njal | orionshock: I've come pretty far with my addon already -- it works pretty much like I want it to with some stuff semi-hard-coded, but my next "logical" step is making it extendable, which is a major point to the addon :) |
| 13:37.32 | nevcairiel | Josh_Borke: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/ba7f21b963c9d203e04ef9457da5db27.jpg :P |
| 13:38.06 | Josh_Borke | hm, ok, cool |
| 13:38.14 | orionshock | njal: extensible how? fubar style or more like bigwigs? |
| 13:38.24 | [Ammo] | ZOMGmodularstyle! |
| 13:38.33 | njal | more like bigwigs I'd wager |
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| 13:38.42 | ag` | nice diablo art nevcairiel :D |
| 13:38.46 | CIA-46 | 03ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80726 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options/ag_ModuleOptions.lua: ag_UnitFrames: changed updates for aura options |
| 13:39.03 | nevcairiel | ag`: got options yet to disable the new gloss on the auras? |
| 13:39.18 | ag` | not yet but there will be |
| 13:39.25 | orionshock | difference being that fubar forces the addon to bring 90% of the code to the table, where bigwigs style is where you tell the core what you want and what to call IE the core handles a good portion of the actual foot work |
| 13:39.36 | ag` | I might remove it entirely |
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| 13:40.36 | orionshock | and [Ammo] no, ZOMGBuffs has a horrific modular design last time i looked |
| 13:41.06 | [Ammo] | I wasn't talking about that |
| 13:41.12 | [Ammo] | it's more the OMG NEED MODULARS |
| 13:41.12 | orionshock | :P |
| 13:41.17 | njal | will mostly be the core that does its thing and a plugin setting some variables every now and then |
| 13:41.42 | orionshock | ok, well your descriptions are too vauge to help, sorry. |
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| 13:42.51 | Josh_Borke | hey guys! i have the really cool addon idea |
| 13:42.59 | Josh_Borke | who wants to tackle it? |
| 13:43.11 | orionshock | shoot |
| 13:43.21 | Josh_Borke | an in-game wiki editable by anyone in the guild :-D |
| 13:43.29 | orionshock | fuck you |
| 13:43.32 | Josh_Borke | rofl |
| 13:43.40 | [Ammo] | video it when you fuck him orion |
| 13:43.47 | [Ammo] | I need more gay porn |
| 13:44.07 | orionshock | um.... |
| 13:44.11 | Josh_Borke | orionshock: such a violent reaction |
| 13:44.22 | Josh_Borke | completely uncalled for imo |
| 13:44.23 | orionshock | i was more under the idea that i'd use a shotgun to the side of his head :\ |
| 13:44.51 | orionshock | Josh_Borke: this is true |
| 13:45.07 | orionshock | how ever i'd like to point out the obvious problems of synching and version control |
| 13:45.46 | orionshock | and the HELL it creates due to the fact that we don't have an unlimited, anywhere accessible server side storage mechanizum. |
| 13:45.56 | Josh_Borke | oh come on, people having different times on their computers and being in different time zones and disconnecting and reconnecting at various times won't cause any problems at all |
| 13:46.02 | Josh_Borke | besides, it just adds some spice to the problem |
| 13:46.09 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:46.44 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:47.03 | orionshock | .. "Use a guild website, it's what they are there for and are actualy designed for it :P " |
| 13:47.26 | njal | orionshock: I've already gotten the help I needed from you and Josh, so I'm off coding again (whish is why I'm slow at replying now) :) |
| 13:47.30 | Josh_Borke | yea, but 1) no one ever reads the guild website, 2) no one sets up wikis on a guild website |
| 13:47.54 | orionshock | and this leads to the final logical question, wtf do u need a wiki for? |
| 13:48.03 | steev | hrm, tomtom is by jmwhiteh |
| 13:48.12 | Josh_Borke | you mean jnwhiteh? |
| 13:48.15 | steev | er |
| 13:48.16 | steev | yeah |
| 13:48.17 | orionshock | steev: aka clad|sleep |
| 13:48.21 | steev | ahh |
| 13:48.33 | Josh_Borke | aka the guy who wrote clique and perfectraid |
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| 13:48.53 | steev | clad|sleep: http://dev.gentoo.org/~steev/files/screenshots/WoWScrnShot_082008_070926.jpg - see the waypoint arrow, for some reason i've still got 5 %d Secs with r164 |
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| 13:50.55 | orionshock | steev: ... http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?uid=15704&a=listbugs |
| 13:50.57 | orionshock | :D |
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| 13:51.48 | steev | orionshock: requires making YET ANOTHER FSCKING LOGIN |
| 13:51.58 | orionshock | it's wowi |
| 13:52.02 | orionshock | you don't have a login? |
| 13:52.08 | steev | no, why do i need one? |
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| 13:52.28 | Josh_Borke | steev: did you already confirm that the bugs aren't already there? |
| 13:52.30 | orionshock | 3 of the best authors post to WoWI |
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| 13:52.41 | steev | Josh_Borke: there are only 3 bugs for tomtom |
| 13:53.01 | orionshock | clad, tek, and... don't remember the 3rd that i subscribe to |
| 13:53.12 | Josh_Borke | orionshock: that doesn't mean he needs to have a login |
| 13:53.24 | Josh_Borke | steev: let me know what you want posted and i'll post for you, if you'd like |
| 13:53.41 | orionshock | pb? |
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| 13:53.51 | steev | pb? |
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| 13:54.25 | orionshock | point being |
| 13:54.28 | orionshock | it's wowi |
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| 13:55.36 | steev | orionshock: i don't feel like creating a login on every website out there - if it supported something like, say, openid |
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| 13:55.41 | steev | maybe i wouldn't be so against it |
| 13:56.00 | steev | but every website in the world pretty much requires it nowadays, and its annoying |
| 13:56.23 | steev | its not a huge deal, since i don't use waypoints that often, just wanted to mention it to him |
| 13:56.32 | orionshock | .. i use the same UID/PW for most of them... |
| 13:56.56 | steev | im one of those nutty people that doesn't |
| 13:57.23 | jnwhiteh | doesn't make you nutty, honestly |
| 13:57.36 | steev | heh |
| 13:57.45 | steev | i know, he's just failing to convince me to create a wowi account |
| 13:58.00 | steev | although, tbh, i had thought i did, but when i tried recently to login it failed, so i guess i didn't |
| 13:58.35 | jnwhiteh | you didn't under that username |
| 13:58.52 | jnwhiteh | there are two others that are similar to "steev" but none just steev :P# |
| 13:58.55 | orionshock | ok, real reason. If your going to bother an author about an error, do them the favor and look up how and where they want the error reported. otherwise it's a waste of time. IMO |
| 13:59.11 | steev | jnwhiteh: actually it should have been elekatun |
| 13:59.30 | jnwhiteh | nope, not there |
| 13:59.38 | jnwhiteh | why did you need a wowi account? |
| 13:59.48 | steev | to report an error with tomtom, ironically enough |
| 13:59.59 | jnwhiteh | something not already reported in the comments? |
| 14:00.08 | steev | from what i see, yeah |
| 14:00.08 | jnwhiteh | there are a bunch of "issues" right now that i'm trying to wade through |
| 14:00.17 | jnwhiteh | well, shoot :P |
| 14:00.18 | steev | well i only see 3 in the bug tracker |
| 14:00.36 | steev | clad|sleep: http://dev.gentoo.org/~steev/files/screenshots/WoWScrnShot_082008_070926.jpg - see the waypoint arrow, for some reason i've still got 5 %d Secs with r164 |
| 14:00.39 | jnwhiteh | no one uses the bug tracker, hence why I said somments. |
| 14:00.48 | steev | oh |
| 14:01.05 | jnwhiteh | okay, shoot me an email |
| 14:01.05 | jnwhiteh | and i'll fix it |
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| 14:05.06 | CIA-46 | 03ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80727 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/modules/auras/auras.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Added gloss option, slightly increased gloss transparency |
| 14:05.11 | CIA-46 | 03ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80728 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options/ (ag_ModuleOptions.lua locales/ag_Options-enUS.lua): ag_UnitFrames: Added gloss options to dialog |
| 14:05.40 | steev | any preferred email? |
| 14:05.48 | jnwhiteh | this at gmail is fine |
| 14:05.51 | jnwhiteh | cladhaire as well |
| 14:05.52 | jnwhiteh | either one |
| 14:05.56 | steev | alrighty |
| 14:06.10 | steev | i know the line number and whatnot, just not sure what, if anything, it should be :) |
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| 14:07.26 | jnwhiteh | lua> "2008-08-18 14:14:14" > "2008-08-18 12:14:14" |
| 14:07.27 | lua_bot | jnwhiteh: true |
| 14:07.34 | watchout | poke njal |
| 14:07.48 | njal | gets poked |
| 14:08.00 | ag` | nevcairiel, there you have it :) |
| 14:08.15 | watchout | was a bit busy just now, but... |
| 14:08.27 | orionshock | ag`: the gloss option looked rather odd first time i saw it, but it looks nice |
| 14:08.38 | steev | jnwhiteh: sent |
| 14:08.44 | watchout | if you set another addon as a dependency for yours, you are ensured by WoW that all dependencies are loaded beofre yours |
| 14:09.14 | jnwhiteh | thanks |
| 14:09.35 | watchout | that is, the specific "ADDON_LOADED" events are fired before the "plugin" gets loaded |
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| 14:09.54 | ag` | orionshock, well I reduced the alpha slightly and added an option to turn it off... So that should suit everyone |
| 14:10.19 | orionshock | adjust and toggle, yep usualy does it :D |
| 14:11.51 | njal | This is essentially what I've ended up with doing: http://ace.pastey.net/94247 |
| 14:12.52 | watchout | though, you should use LibStub really just for Libraries |
| 14:14.59 | njal | hmm.. how does it matters? |
| 14:15.04 | njal | matter* |
| 14:16.28 | Josh_Borke | you can simplify by not requiring libstub |
| 14:16.40 | nevcairiel | the main thing Libstub does is allow upgrading of libraries |
| 14:16.52 | nevcairiel | but your plugin will only ever run once |
| 14:17.23 | Josh_Borke | http://ace.pastey.net/94248 |
| 14:17.35 | njal | it is possible that people that write plugins for my addon uses an old MyAddonPlugins |
| 14:18.11 | njal | since my MyAddonPlugins has quite a few functions that probably will get updated/extended down the line |
| 14:18.40 | nevcairiel | Well i would guess that your plugin thing would just ship with your addon |
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| 14:18.46 | nevcairiel | and so still only be one version ever |
| 14:19.05 | njal | yeah, probably :) |
| 14:19.22 | njal | good point |
| 14:20.00 | Adirelle|work | damn it, x-chat stops to copy things after running tool long |
| 14:20.01 | orionshock | njal: u using Ace3? |
| 14:20.16 | njal | yeah |
| 14:20.19 | orionshock | specificly aceAddon3? |
| 14:20.26 | njal | yes |
| 14:20.41 | orionshock | try looking at NewModule() and OnModuleCreate() functions in the AceAddon-3 file |
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| 14:20.57 | orionshock | i think that's what they are called |
| 14:21.08 | Adirelle|work | orionshock: you're right |
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| 14:21.18 | orionshock | you can always do what prat does, rename and translate accordingly |
| 14:21.31 | njal | already looked, and thats where I "extraced" my (simplified) way of doing it |
| 14:21.39 | sylvanaar | you know, that's actually ace3 doing that |
| 14:21.43 | njal | which wasnt simple enough, as Josh_Borke pointed out :) |
| 14:21.59 | orionshock | sylvanaar: i know, you just renamed the function effectively |
| 14:22.21 | orionshock | njal: you could always do what i call "SoftEmbedding" http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/GuildCraft/Communications.lua |
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| 14:24.41 | sylvanaar | or you can use the _GWhiz-3.0 framework...I wonder if anyone remembers _GWhiz |
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| 14:25.42 | Adirelle|work | njal: creating plugins with AceAddon-3.0 is as simple as : local plugin = addon:NewModule('pluginName') |
| 14:26.03 | Adirelle|work | plus you can define module prototype into your addon so that the plugins "inherits" default methods |
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| 14:27.25 | sylvanaar | aka a metatable |
| 14:28.02 | Adirelle|work | sylvanaar: right, but njal isn't used to lua yet |
| 14:29.27 | Pneumatus | when you declare a local variable outside of a function, does that variable just have the scope of the lua file? |
| 14:29.43 | orionshock | Adirelle|work: right about what? |
| 14:29.54 | Wobin | Pneumatus: yes |
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| 14:30.03 | Adirelle|work | orionshock: about the fact that AceAddon module prototype are metatables |
| 14:30.04 | Wobin | unless you place it within a specific scope unit |
| 14:30.15 | njal | the NewModule way sounds interesting |
| 14:30.40 | orionshock | they are? thought they did the whole target[k] = prototype[k] trick |
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| 14:32.23 | orionshock | njal: fubar uses the "Embed" method where the "plugin" controls the addon core table; the Ace2/3 "module" idea is where the core addon provides the core addon table.. slight of hand difference in syle |
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| 14:32.46 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:34.47 | sylvanaar | well, since we are making a list - you can also declare a private environment and use globals - works just like embedding, good if you dont need to do upgrading since its cheaper |
| 14:35.01 | nevcairiel | that sounds ugly |
| 14:35.26 | sylvanaar | really, its the Lua module system |
| 14:37.53 | sylvanaar | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.3 |
| 14:38.14 | orionshock | im prolly wrong; but i think wow is one of the few production lvl uses of the language... |
| 14:38.21 | jnwhiteh | you're wrong :P |
| 14:38.29 | orionshock | figured as much |
| 14:38.32 | jnwhiteh | half of the Adobe Lightroom codebase is in Lua |
| 14:38.38 | jnwhiteh | plus, check the Lua uses page |
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| 14:39.02 | orionshock | Adobe? fk me... |
| 14:39.26 | jnwhiteh | you thought I was gonna say "rinky-dink startup X uses Lua ;-)" |
| 14:39.42 | sylvanaar | wireshark uses lua |
| 14:40.24 | orionshock | no, but Adobe is no joke software |
| 14:40.32 | jnwhiteh | neither is wow :P |
| 14:40.43 | sylvanaar | why doesnt wow's lua have the package library? |
| 14:40.49 | orionshock | that's debateable |
| 14:40.51 | jnwhiteh | sylvanaar: because its pretty useless in WoW |
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| 14:41.31 | jnwhiteh | everything that it does can already be done in stock lua + addon dependencies |
| 14:41.52 | jnwhiteh | and its tied up in C implementation that would need to be gutted, QA, etc. |
| 14:42.02 | orionshock | ^^ |
| 14:42.19 | orionshock | don't think they want to spend the time sandbox wrapping it |
| 14:42.48 | sylvanaar | i suppose, but like he said, its mostly a shorthand for some table and environment shuffling |
| 14:42.49 | Wobin | well, really, any software that has the number of users that WoW has can't be considered 'joke' software... |
| 14:43.01 | jnwhiteh | ^^ truth |
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| 14:44.20 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:44.22 | sylvanaar | well, my virtual pinpad is written in Lua - so clearly, its serious stuff |
| 14:44.26 | orionshock | so, brain is now fried |
| 14:44.37 | orionshock | going to log off before i stick my other foot in my mouth |
| 14:44.41 | orionshock | night alll |
| 14:44.48 | sylvanaar | nn |
| 14:47.38 | sylvanaar | well, Lua's main industry is gaming, you could say that. It's less well known in other spaces. |
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| 14:55.19 | Trell- | ~seen Tekkub |
| 14:55.22 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 1d 6h 37m 30s ago, saying: 'oh and no, the DPS meter works quite well, I've tested with others that actually deal damage'. |
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| 15:02.07 | KriLL3 | isn't lua very close to javascript? |
| 15:02.24 | krka | yes and no |
| 15:05.37 | sylvanaar | so no? |
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| 15:06.48 | Shirik | KriLL3: In that Javascript sucks and Lua doesn't, no |
| 15:06.57 | sylvanaar | hehe |
| 15:07.15 | KriLL3 | I meant syntax and methodology |
| 15:07.21 | sylvanaar | they both have syntaxes which are members of the same family as C |
| 15:07.33 | dieck | I'd say lua is more like php than javascript. |
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| 15:07.43 | Shirik | hates lua's ^ operator |
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| 15:07.56 | nevcairiel | whats wrong with it? |
| 15:08.00 | dieck | lua, php, javascript, c, they're all "human readable" in english. or at least kind of :) |
| 15:08.01 | Shirik | its existence |
| 15:08.13 | Obelixprime | i've only tried to write an addon once.. |
| 15:08.15 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 15:08.20 | Shirik | I believe we've had this debate before, and we didn't get anywhere :) |
| 15:08.31 | krka | lua and javascript share most features, afaik |
| 15:08.31 | Obelixprime | and the biggest thing for me to overcome was the associative array data structure |
| 15:08.31 | nevcairiel | Just use math.pow if you dont like the operator =P |
| 15:08.42 | krka | i don't see the similarity between php and lua at all |
| 15:08.42 | Shirik | I'm a computer engineer, and I am of the strong opinion that operators should be closely related to computer instructions |
| 15:08.49 | Shirik | math.pow is fine |
| 15:08.52 | Shirik | that's how it should be |
| 15:08.55 | Shirik | in C they also have pow() |
| 15:08.57 | Shirik | ^ is xor |
| 15:09.01 | sylvanaar | ^ xor |
| 15:09.18 | sylvanaar | or you can use the ieee8 whatever header in C |
| 15:09.23 | nevcairiel | lua isnt really that good at bit operations, i understand how they skipped xor =P |
| 15:09.27 | sylvanaar | what's the actual name... |
| 15:09.33 | Shirik | they actually skipped all bitwise operations :D |
| 15:09.39 | nevcairiel | i know |
| 15:09.39 | Shirik | Though I've been working on a bit library |
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| 15:09.47 | Shirik | I can't stand bitlib because it's incredibly inefficient |
| 15:09.47 | krka | there already is one |
| 15:09.49 | nevcairiel | Shirik: you know, there is one already |
| 15:09.50 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 15:09.51 | Shirik | yes I know |
| 15:09.55 | sylvanaar | I just call back into C for bit operations |
| 15:10.00 | Shirik | it's horrible for efficiency though |
| 15:10.06 | Shirik | every time you use it, you have to do a double-to-int conversion |
| 15:10.10 | Shirik | which is extrememly expensive |
| 15:10.10 | nevcairiel | doing that in pure lua would be better? |
| 15:10.13 | Shirik | nop |
| 15:10.18 | Shirik | but SSE offers alternatives |
| 15:10.33 | nevcairiel | what do i care about your lua thats not wow-lua, srsly |
| 15:10.39 | Shirik | :P |
| 15:10.48 | Shirik | Would you be more interested in my Lua VM? |
| 15:11.00 | Shirik | It has intentions to go into WoW :D |
| 15:11.12 | Josh_Borke | Shirik: good luck with that :-) |
| 15:11.23 | nevcairiel | once it does, maybe, for now, i would rather go buy some food |
| 15:11.25 | nevcairiel | leaves |
| 15:11.34 | Josh_Borke | ~lasso nevcairiel |
| 15:11.46 | nevcairiel | ~shot Josh_Borke |
| 15:11.56 | Josh_Borke | well, at least we're both terrible |
| 15:11.58 | Josh_Borke | ~shoot nevcairiel |
| 15:11.59 | purl | ACTION shoots nevcairiel in the head with a phase pistol! |
| 15:11.59 | nevcairiel | ~ping |
| 15:12.00 | purl | ~pong |
| 15:12.02 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 15:12.03 | nevcairiel | damn |
| 15:12.06 | Shirik | Josh_Borke wins! |
| 15:12.07 | Josh_Borke | ~flex |
| 15:12.08 | purl | methinks flex is a sucky nick used by freaks, or flex is also the Fast Lexical analyzer generator. A Lex compatible scanner generator. |
| 15:12.16 | Shirik | ... wtf? |
| 15:12.25 | Josh_Borke | not exactly what i was expecting |
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| 15:12.36 | sylvanaar | iso646.h |
| 15:12.41 | sylvanaar | thats the one |
| 15:12.56 | jnwhiteh | your mom |
| 15:12.58 | jnwhiteh | that's the one! |
| 15:13.04 | Josh_Borke | oooo |
| 15:13.06 | Josh_Borke | ~props jnwhiteh |
| 15:13.19 | Shirik | oh I've seen that before sylvanaar |
| 15:13.22 | Josh_Borke | ~shoot purl |
| 15:13.22 | purl | ACTION shoots purl in the ear with a cork gun! |
| 15:13.25 | Shirik | I wanted to kill someone for it |
| 15:14.00 | Kalroth_ | ~failrik |
| 15:14.00 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 15:14.11 | sylvanaar | kill somone for what? |
| 15:14.23 | sylvanaar | iso646? |
| 15:14.27 | Shirik | turning all their if statements into english >< It was so wierd to look at |
| 15:14.36 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 15:14.44 | Shirik | almost as bad as #define while whilst |
| 15:14.48 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:14.48 | Shirik | er |
| 15:14.51 | Shirik | #define whilst while |
| 15:15.12 | nevcairiel | if (a and b) { |
| 15:15.14 | nevcairiel | looks like lua! |
| 15:15.18 | sylvanaar | i think its actual purpose was for non US locales - i may be wrong |
| 15:15.45 | Shirik | It probably has a good purpose |
| 15:15.55 | Shirik | most standards aren't made for no reason |
| 15:15.58 | nevcairiel | if (a and compl b) |
| 15:16.01 | nevcairiel | looks so weird |
| 15:16.12 | sylvanaar | ~google iso646 |
| 15:16.17 | sylvanaar | does she do that/ |
| 15:16.22 | nevcairiel | no |
| 15:16.22 | p3lim | ~seen tekkub |
| 15:16.24 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 1d 6h 58m 32s ago, saying: 'oh and no, the DPS meter works quite well, I've tested with others that actually deal damage'. |
| 15:16.26 | Shirik | !g iso646 |
| 15:16.33 | Shirik | however, http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bw6140c5(VS.80).aspx |
| 15:16.45 | Shirik | and http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ayefs2c0(VS.80).aspx |
| 15:16.48 | sylvanaar | ~iso646 |
| 15:16.54 | sylvanaar | yeah, i see that one |
| 15:17.21 | sylvanaar | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_646 |
| 15:17.25 | sylvanaar | frickipedia |
| 15:19.37 | sylvanaar | well, that was a nice diversion - lua really doesnt like unicode. they need to do something about that srsly...and not a patch... |
| 15:20.30 | Lyn_ | "You know you're in Germany when the airport has a sex shop in the main lobby. BzzzzZZZZzzzzzz!!! " < lol http://blogs.ign.com/Jess-IGN/ |
| 15:20.30 | sylvanaar | was a pita to compile it for windows ce |
| 15:20.47 | sylvanaar | bot? |
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| 15:25.07 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: I know it's you. |
| 15:28.37 | CIA-46 | 03ackis * r80729 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Engineer.lua: |
| 15:28.37 | CIA-46 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 15:28.37 | CIA-46 | - Fix ticket 45 |
| 15:28.37 | CIA-46 | - Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p) |
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| 15:37.28 | fatbrain | Any reason I would get a "TinyTip.lua:98 attempt to index global 'TinyTipOptions' a nil value". I have both TinyTip and TinyTipOptions installed. |
| 15:40.31 | CIA-46 | 03ackis * r80730 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-LeatherWork.lua: |
| 15:40.31 | CIA-46 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 15:40.31 | CIA-46 | - Fix ticket 44 |
| 15:40.31 | CIA-46 | - Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p) |
| 15:41.20 | Gnarfoz | fatbrain: I don't think the current version of TinyTip has anything to do with TinyTipOptions |
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| 15:47.56 | Pneumatus | has Babble-SpellTree-2.2 been depricated for a 3.0 version somewhere that i've not seen? |
| 15:48.15 | ckknight | yes, Pneumatus |
| 15:49.14 | Pneumatus | ckknight: any idea what the latest version is, as LibBabble-Spell-3.0 doesnt list talent trees |
| 15:49.36 | ckknight | I dunno, they're multiple different libs |
| 15:50.48 | Pneumatus | i may be being blind, but i cant see talent trees localised in any of the libbabble* mods |
| 15:52.45 | ckknight | Pneumatus: time to make LibBabble-SpellTree-3.0? |
| 15:52.47 | ckknight | :-P |
| 15:52.57 | Pneumatus | maybe. |
| 15:53.04 | Pneumatus | i wouldnt know where to start, though |
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| 15:56.22 | Pneumatus | granted, thats not entirely true, i could probably work it out from the other libbabble mods |
| 15:56.42 | nevcairiel | just copy the babble-framework header |
| 15:56.48 | nevcairiel | and create the translation tables |
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| 15:57.36 | nevcairiel | but isnt that like 30 translations and thats all? Seems kinda like a waste to create a new babble module for it |
| 15:58.01 | Xinhuan | the fact that nobody has done it proves that nobody has needed those translations ;p |
| 15:58.01 | nevcairiel | (of which some even intersect) |
| 15:58.10 | Xinhuan | meaning it isn't very useful as a lib! |
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| 15:58.28 | Pneumatus | maybe they belong in LibBabble-Class |
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| 16:00.00 | Pneumatus | several addons appear to use Babble-SpellTree-2.2 at least, just its not been updated to 3.0 |
| 16:00.23 | nevcairiel | none of mine does |
| 16:00.27 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 16:00.52 | nevcairiel | babble addons have been updated on a case-by-case basis, mostly due to the fact that some addon needed it |
| 16:01.12 | Pneumatus | yeh, i'd guess thats why then |
| 16:01.14 | Matrix110 | no addon needs it because it returns true for every query-.- |
| 16:01.41 | nevcairiel | srsly, l2englishclient |
| 16:01.48 | Matrix110 | idd |
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| 16:02.43 | Pneumatus | i guess i could have a go at making a 3.0 |
| 16:03.20 | AckisWork | what does talented do? |
| 16:03.27 | nevcairiel | Change your addon design to avoid that? :D |
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| 16:04.19 | Pneumatus | nevcairiel: my addon displays talent spec names in a tooltip, i cant do much to avoid it other than force people to english :P |
| 16:04.30 | nevcairiel | show numbers! |
| 16:04.39 | Pneumatus | lol |
| 16:04.44 | Pneumatus | that would work! |
| 16:04.49 | sylvanaar | my addon uses babble spell tree too |
| 16:05.03 | nevcairiel | or just include them in -Spell |
| 16:05.25 | nevcairiel | SpellTree is also a wrong name, since its actually TalentTrees |
| 16:05.36 | sylvanaar | right |
| 16:05.38 | Obelixprime | ok, here's an interesting question for you C types |
| 16:05.43 | Obelixprime | if i have something like this |
| 16:05.53 | CIA-46 | 03ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80731 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options/ag_Options.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Padding etc. can be changed without leaving config mode |
| 16:05.54 | Obelixprime | int blah[2] = { 1 }; |
| 16:06.04 | Obelixprime | does 1 get assigned to both blah[0] and blah[1]? |
| 16:06.09 | sylvanaar | exception: access violation |
| 16:06.13 | sylvanaar | no |
| 16:06.20 | nevcairiel | why would it error? |
| 16:06.28 | nevcairiel | but it only assigns it to [0] |
| 16:06.29 | sylvanaar | for that you need {{1}}; |
| 16:07.07 | nevcairiel | that would be the first time i ever see that syntax |
| 16:07.17 | sylvanaar | learn something new every day |
| 16:07.25 | nevcairiel | I bet thats not ANSI C |
| 16:07.26 | Pneumatus | once i've defeated wing commander mulverick, i'll have a play in making LibBabble-TalentTree |
| 16:07.30 | sylvanaar | i bet it is |
| 16:07.48 | Obelixprime | so since the initialization list has only 1 element |
| 16:07.54 | Obelixprime | it will copy it to the first element in the array |
| 16:07.55 | Obelixprime | ? |
| 16:08.01 | sylvanaar | yes |
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| 16:08.26 | AckisWork | anyone have good suggestions for web-based browser games? like ogame? |
| 16:08.34 | sylvanaar | thats why you use {{1}}, which initializes all elements |
| 16:08.39 | Obelixprime | ackiswork: kongregate |
| 16:10.39 | AckisWork | are those turn based games or just 1-shot type things? |
| 16:11.39 | Obelixprime | they have many different genres |
| 16:12.14 | Obelixprime | its a social networking / gaming site similar to xbox live where you can get achievements for completing games |
| 16:12.28 | Obelixprime | and get a ranking according to the number of achievements you get |
| 16:12.39 | Obelixprime | but they generally have a bunch of games you can find on other sites |
| 16:13.25 | AckisWork | ahh ok |
| 16:13.56 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar: your {{1}} doesnt even work |
| 16:14.09 | sylvanaar | lies |
| 16:14.31 | nevcairiel | http://ace.pastey.net/94257 |
| 16:14.36 | nevcairiel | that should output 1 1 right? |
| 16:15.10 | nevcairiel | http://ace.pastey.net/94258 |
| 16:15.15 | nevcairiel | i left the compile warnigns in too |
| 16:15.56 | nevcairiel | (ignore the unused parameters =P) |
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| 16:18.01 | sylvanaar | it doesnt apply to automatic variables |
| 16:18.15 | sylvanaar | make it static or move it out of the function |
| 16:18.38 | nevcairiel | no dice |
| 16:18.40 | nevcairiel | still 1 0 |
| 16:18.41 | nevcairiel | ;) |
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| 16:19.41 | sylvanaar | wierd |
| 16:19.52 | sylvanaar | maybe it only works for 0 |
| 16:20.09 | nevcairiel | Mabye you just thought it worked because a modern gcc initializes everything with 0 |
| 16:20.15 | sylvanaar | no |
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| 16:20.48 | sylvanaar | we have it all over our code here, and we use old compilers |
| 16:20.48 | nevcairiel | Anyway, i really would've been surprised if i didnt know a nice trick like that in C |
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| 16:27.36 | Wobin | afaik, the {0} only works for that |
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| 16:31.24 | Wobin | "If there are fewer initializers in a brace-enclosed list than there are elements or members of an aggregate, or fewer characters in a string literal used to initialize an array of known size than there are elements in the array, the remainder of the aggregate shall be initialized implicitly the same as objects that have static storage duration." |
| 16:31.37 | Wobin | ie, it'll set everything to 0 for an int array |
| 16:31.53 | Wobin | for everything beyond what is specifically initialised |
| 16:33.22 | CIA-46 | 03ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80732 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Extras/xprepbar/xprepbar.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Reputation can be disabled |
| 16:33.28 | CIA-46 | 03ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80733 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options/ (ag_ModuleOptions.lua locales/ag_Options-enUS.lua): ag_UnitFrames: Added reputation disable option |
| 16:33.34 | sylvanaar | i'll buy that it only works for 0, since that's the only way we ever use it |
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| 16:33.48 | Wobin | well.. it works for everything else... {1} |
| 16:33.56 | Wobin | but as stated, it'll set the first to 1, the rest to 0 |
| 16:34.05 | CIA-46 | 03Cybersea * r80734 10BigWigs/Karazhan/RomuloJulianne.lua: BigWigs: ruRU fix/update |
| 16:34.51 | nevcairiel | Wobin: makes sense if you think of char arrays that get initilaized by strings |
| 16:36.20 | nevcairiel | {{0}} is still wrong syntax, however ;) |
| 16:36.20 | Wobin | yes =) |
| 16:36.20 | nevcairiel | unless you have a 2-dim array |
| 16:36.21 | sylvanaar | ive been using it for years. /shrug |
| 16:36.51 | nevcairiel | increase warning level on your compilers =P |
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| 17:00.19 | sylvanaar | wait, what? compiler warnings? don't get them - maybe thats a gcc thing |
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| 17:06.57 | CIA-46 | 03pneumatus * r80735 10LibBabble-TalentTree-3.0/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:06.57 | CIA-46 | LibBabble-TalentTree-3.0: initial commit |
| 17:06.58 | CIA-46 | - An updated version of Babble-SpellTree-2.2 |
| 17:07.57 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 17:08.36 | Pneumatus | with placeholders for DK talent tree translations! |
| 17:09.18 | CIA-46 | 03pneumatus * r80736 10LibBabble-TalentTree-3.0/: |
| 17:09.18 | CIA-46 | LibBabble-TalentTree-3.0: |
| 17:09.18 | CIA-46 | - Setting log template |
| 17:09.26 | nevcairiel | we should include a synchronization script into every Babble thing like i did for BT4 |
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| 17:09.53 | nevcairiel | when you add something new to enUS, and run it, it adds it to all languages (as comment), so you see whats missing |
| 17:10.14 | nevcairiel | well if someone converts babble to the new translation thingy on the new wowace at some point, that point will be invalid anyway |
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| 17:10.20 | ckknight | nevcairiel: I need to finish the localization app :-P |
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| 17:15.19 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: it'll be converted, ckknight said he'd do it |
| 17:15.30 | ckknight | what will? |
| 17:15.47 | AckisWork | babble -> localization thingy on CF |
| 17:15.49 | nevcairiel | AckisWork: if he does his work right, we'll just paste the files in some interface, or even just import the files directly :) |
| 17:16.06 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: imports and exports |
| 17:16.09 | Silviu- | http://ace.pastey.net/94263 BigWigs error :/ |
| 17:16.30 | ckknight | yea, the idea's to just use the import/export mechanism |
| 17:16.35 | CIA-46 | 03gnarfoz 07XLoot1.0 * r80737 10XLoot/layouts/default.lua: XLoot1.0: some WotLK this -> self fixage :) |
| 17:17.51 | AckisWork | ckknight: hmm something else to think about: auto-building |
| 17:18.17 | ckknight | yea, but that'd be later, imo |
| 17:18.19 | AckisWork | ie: I say enUS = filefoo.lua and whenever there's a change it automagically updates that file and rebuilds |
| 17:18.24 | ckknight | I've thought about it, though |
| 17:18.40 | ckknight | for a while, it'll be handled manually, though |
| 17:18.44 | AckisWork | aight |
| 17:19.26 | AckisWork | maybe even a common database of terms |
| 17:19.50 | ckknight | here's my idea: |
| 17:20.20 | ckknight | once people have their translations up, more than just a few projects, I'll put some buttons in to auto-propagate from other projects if the terms match |
| 17:20.34 | ckknight | so if someone has "Monkey" => "Affe", they could steal the translation |
| 17:20.58 | ckknight | also, you could theoretically auto-populate with a babelfish'd version |
| 17:21.18 | ckknight | note that these would then be marked with a special status where a translator could change em or mark em as accurate |
| 17:22.41 | AckisWork | I wonder what the uptake on that system will be |
| 17:23.01 | ckknight | I'd use it for Cart3 and such |
| 17:23.20 | AckisWork | I'd use it as well |
| 17:23.56 | AckisWork | I'm sure translators would love it |
| 17:24.22 | AckisWork | and if you do a few reports/etc you could see which translations are commonly used and possibly make a "LibBabble-CommonTerms" ;) |
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| 17:25.58 | AckisWork | I'm surprised I didn't get a lart for that :P |
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| 17:28.01 | ckknight | yea, I was contemplating it |
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| 17:31.11 | Xinhuan | that wouldn't necessarily work for some words |
| 17:31.16 | Xinhuan | if they map from the same translation |
| 17:31.44 | ckknight | that's why it'd be marked with a status where someone would have to later mark it as accurate |
| 17:32.09 | Xinhuan | so it'll still need "translator approval"? is that what you mean? |
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| 17:32.16 | Groktar | zomg |
| 17:32.17 | ckknight | basically |
| 17:32.23 | ckknight | that's the best way I see |
| 17:32.30 | Groktar | From: WoW Expansion Beta (WoWExpansionBeta@blizzard.com) <- zomg!!!!! |
| 17:32.32 | CIA-46 | 03Thaoky * r80738 10Altoholic/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:32.32 | CIA-46 | Altoholic: |
| 17:32.32 | CIA-46 | - Added ruRU localization (Thanks Hellbot) |
| 17:32.39 | ckknight | Groktar: grats |
| 17:32.48 | Groktar | unfortunately, my priest and warrior are on separate accounts |
| 17:33.02 | Groktar | i don't know which i should upgrade |
| 17:33.18 | AckisWork | random? |
| 17:33.24 | Groktar | ya, random invite |
| 17:33.26 | AckisWork | DARKGuy: http://ackis.myminicity.com/sec pls :D |
| 17:34.25 | CIA-46 | 03ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80739 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (3 files in 3 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: fixed rare ABF bar order error |
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| 17:34.51 | Xinhuan | Q: What sound does a grape make when an elephant steps on it? |
| 17:34.59 | nevcairiel | squish |
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| 17:35.04 | Xinhuan | A: None. It just lets out a little wine. |
| 17:35.16 | nevcairiel | I still think it squishes |
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| 17:35.24 | Xinhuan | whine, wine ;p pub |
| 17:35.27 | Xinhuan | pun* |
| 17:35.37 | nevcairiel | a very bad one |
| 17:35.52 | Xinhuan | i have 345 lockboxes now |
| 17:35.55 | Xinhuan | need 1155 more |
| 17:35.59 | Xinhuan | uh 1055 more |
| 17:36.00 | nevcairiel | you should unlock them |
| 17:36.06 | AckisWork | for exalted? |
| 17:36.06 | Xinhuan | takes too long |
| 17:36.08 | Xinhuan | 5 seconds each |
| 17:36.13 | Xinhuan | to unlock |
| 17:36.30 | Xinhuan | i have pickpockete 21g from AV today so far |
| 17:37.10 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: can you get those lock boxes in AV? |
| 17:37.18 | Xinhuan | ya, from irondeep mines |
| 17:37.32 | AckisWork | wow |
| 17:37.40 | Xinhuan | 5-10 boxes or so per AV |
| 17:37.46 | AckisWork | and honor |
| 17:37.52 | Xinhuan | spend 3 min picking everything, then kill the guy to cap it |
| 17:38.07 | AckisWork | I go to winterspring |
| 17:38.19 | Xinhuan | fail |
| 17:38.42 | AckisWork | 2520 junkboxes needed and 99 darkmoon faire decks |
| 17:39.10 | Xinhuan | only need 1400 junkboxes |
| 17:39.10 | AckisWork | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ackis#Goals_for_before_wrath |
| 17:39.10 | Xinhuan | u can kill syndicate until 11999/12000 |
| 17:39.10 | Xinhuan | 1 rep each |
| 17:39.12 | Xinhuan | at hillsbrad |
| 17:39.28 | Xinhuan | i assure u kiling syndicate is faster than stealing lockboxes |
| 17:40.07 | Xinhuan | gettig 99 deckscosts to much gold |
| 17:40.09 | nevcairiel | AckisWork: somehow i dont think you'll finish that list |
| 17:40.14 | Xinhuan | i'll rather save it for wolk gear |
| 17:40.21 | Groktar | which server is higher pop, northrend or lich king? |
| 17:41.21 | nevcairiel | i mean, stratholme mount, good luck on that =P |
| 17:41.57 | nevcairiel | I think i've seen one guy in total with that |
| 17:42.08 | Pneumatus | i know people that have been farming barons mount since release, and still dont have it |
| 17:42.22 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: it's a wishlist, certain things are higher priority |
| 17:42.23 | Pneumatus | 2 of my guildees are in there in every moment of their spare time |
| 17:42.32 | AckisWork | finishing T3 is #1 |
| 17:42.48 | Xinhuan | ackis and me are tied, 37 exalted each |
| 17:43.04 | nevcairiel | i got rid if my T3 sometime during BC |
| 17:43.15 | Xinhuan | however, ackis is NOT beating my 577 days /played ;p |
| 17:43.15 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: I've been turning junkboxes in all the way for all my rep w/ ravenholdt |
| 17:43.18 | Pneumatus | you know you dont need the end-boss quest items specifically for the LK achievements, right Ackis? |
| 17:43.26 | Pneumatus | you just need one of their loot items |
| 17:43.29 | Obelixprime | Groktar, I'm on northrend |
| 17:43.30 | Obelixprime | Obelix |
| 17:43.38 | Xinhuan | i'm telling you killing to 12000 first is far faster ;p |
| 17:43.48 | nevcairiel | Pneumatus: and thats also bugged somehow, did i have to keep the item until now or what? |
| 17:43.56 | AckisWork | Pneumatus: I know, but when I transfered over I was missing the c'thun/ZA kill |
| 17:44.04 | nevcairiel | I didnt get Nefarian, even though i was wearing that item even in BC release |
| 17:44.17 | Pneumatus | AckisWork: they have patched in loot tables since, but they dont appear to retrospecitvely count on the beta realm |
| 17:44.27 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 17:44.30 | AckisWork | Pneumatus: I've transfered my priest over 3x ;) |
| 17:44.33 | Pneumatus | apparently new chars copied over with end-boss loot will get the achievement |
| 17:44.35 | nevcairiel | I never got any c'thun loot =( |
| 17:44.40 | Xinhuan | i have every pre bc boss achievement recorded ;p |
| 17:44.45 | AckisWork | I don't have any loot from those bosses however |
| 17:44.48 | Xinhuan | by virtue of aq quest chain ;p |
| 17:45.06 | nevcairiel | c'thun didnt drop the healing mace, and all other loot from him didnt really intereset me |
| 17:45.07 | CIA-46 | 03ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80741 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Extras/quickhealth/quickhealth.lua: ag_UnitFrames: removed some debug from qh module |
| 17:45.15 | Pneumatus | i wonder if my hunter will get the nefarian kill, as i did the timed nef part of the AQ chain, im sure |
| 17:45.23 | CIA-46 | 03funkydude * r80742 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Kalecgos: Fix Silviu- 's 1 in a million chance error |
| 17:45.38 | Silviu- | ;)))))))) |
| 17:45.43 | nevcairiel | well we'll do the Pre-BC raids with 80 anyway |
| 17:45.44 | Silviu- | Funny |
| 17:45.47 | nevcairiel | because alot people didnt get loot |
| 17:45.49 | Silviu- | But thx |
| 17:45.51 | nevcairiel | so *shrug =P |
| 17:45.56 | Pneumatus | yeh, our guild is planning to go everywhere |
| 17:46.05 | Funkeh` | Silviu-, not even a fix |
| 17:46.10 | Funkeh` | it will show 0 instead of erroring now |
| 17:46.20 | Silviu- | oky :) |
| 17:46.23 | Funkeh` | my guess is the person was somehow dcd or something |
| 17:46.43 | Silviu- | No idea i was out of raid in BG |
| 17:46.57 | Silviu- | And my raid were killing Kalec when i got it |
| 17:47.24 | nevcairiel | You keep waiting members in the raid? |
| 17:47.35 | Hjalte | " Silithid Pox - Physical damage taken is increased by 41%" What the hell?! And it's a disease, so I can't remove it... |
| 17:48.05 | Silviu- | Yep |
| 17:48.16 | Obelixprime | kalecgos has to start dropping cloth pants |
| 17:48.30 | Silviu- | Trash has to start dropping my damn robe :/ |
| 17:48.34 | nevcairiel | Doesnt that suck? Cant even do dailys on the island while waiting |
| 17:48.38 | Pkekyo| | anyone know what's new in Opera 9.52? |
| 17:48.44 | Silviu- | We are at Kj .. and still i did not get my tailor robe receipe |
| 17:48.47 | Obelixprime | for some reason our guild has given the 3 pants taht have dropped to holypriests instead of spriests |
| 17:48.57 | Obelixprime | Silviu, we've had crap drops too |
| 17:49.04 | Obelixprime | How far are you on KJ? |
| 17:49.10 | Silviu- | 35 |
| 17:49.13 | Obelixprime | we just got him to 52% for the first time last week |
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| 17:49.28 | Silviu- | Maybe this week or next is down |
| 17:49.39 | Obelixprime | yeah, probably that + 1 week for us |
| 17:49.44 | Obelixprime | we have pretty terrible signups |
| 17:49.45 | Obelixprime | :( |
| 17:49.50 | Silviu- | At us too :/ |
| 17:49.53 | AckisWork | KJ is funnnnnn |
| 17:50.01 | Silviu- | No is not :P |
| 17:50.07 | Obelixprime | so although we raid 4-5 days a week we only have makeups to raid 2-3 a wweek |
| 17:50.12 | Obelixprime | it is if you're a warlock |
| 17:50.26 | Obelixprime | i think that's the only fight where a lock has nothing to do but shadowbolt and seed |
| 17:50.27 | Silviu- | I`m a wl |
| 17:50.31 | Silviu- | What`s so funny ? ;) |
| 17:50.37 | Silviu- | Heh |
| 17:50.44 | Obelixprime | might put tongues on some reflections |
| 17:50.49 | Obelixprime | but as a spriest its balls |
| 17:50.50 | Silviu- | Nah |
| 17:50.51 | Obelixprime | can't swd |
| 17:51.05 | Obelixprime | the rest of our dps don't want to dps orbs |
| 17:51.15 | Obelixprime | so i'm #1 on orb damage |
| 17:51.18 | Silviu- | I make 2 sp`s and is enough usually :) |
| 17:51.33 | Obelixprime | then i have to mass dispell whenever priests get reflections |
| 17:51.38 | Obelixprime | sigh |
| 17:51.55 | Obelixprime | we wipe a lot on earlier bosses |
| 17:52.02 | Obelixprime | like we only got felmyst down last night |
| 17:52.04 | Silviu- | Hmm hope not :P |
| 17:52.05 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: you left out the phoenix on your list :D |
| 17:52.06 | Obelixprime | wiped like 5 times on brut |
| 17:52.14 | Silviu- | Heh |
| 17:52.16 | Obelixprime | wiped like 7 times on felmyst |
| 17:52.19 | Obelixprime | called it after that |
| 17:52.22 | Silviu- | Damn again i must tank today twins |
| 17:52.23 | Silviu- | :/ |
| 17:52.34 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 17:52.45 | AckisWork | Gnarfoz: :P |
| 17:53.00 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: what, we've got two of them in 5 kills! :D |
| 17:53.04 | Silviu- | Too much to do ! a wl should only stay and SB :)) |
| 17:53.27 | Gnarfoz | granted, that was INSANE luck. xD |
| 17:54.05 | AckisWork | Gnarfoz: I don't know anyone who does TK/SSC anymore |
| 17:54.08 | Obelixprime | must get pheonix mount lol |
| 17:54.25 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: pug it? xD chances of getting it that way are slim, though |
| 17:54.31 | Neo|Other | Ackis ninjad a staff of Kil'jaeden. He's pretty set! |
| 17:54.31 | Gnarfoz | you can just do kael himself anyway |
| 17:54.42 | Gnarfoz | he also gquit afterwards |
| 17:54.47 | Gnarfoz | so, perfect :D |
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| 17:54.49 | Neo|Other | a true master |
| 17:54.51 | AckisWork | I'll worry about that at 80 methinks |
| 17:54.55 | AckisWork | lol :P |
| 17:55.22 | Silviu- | On my server i only saw 1 with phoenix an taureen warrior :) |
| 17:55.29 | Neo|Other | we have one in the guild |
| 17:55.35 | Neo|Other | on a priest |
| 17:55.48 | AckisWork | I didn't ninja the staff I was awarded it :P |
| 17:55.54 | AckisWork | and it took me about 3 weeks to gquit :P |
| 17:56.04 | AckisWork | (although I didn't raid anymore after I got the staff basically) |
| 17:56.14 | Neo|Other | don't ruin a good story now |
| 17:56.39 | Neo|Other | I bet a few people weer steaming though |
| 17:56.39 | AckisWork | I'm going to be looking for a guild here in 3-4 weeks :P don't want to ruin that :P |
| 17:56.49 | AckisWork | some QQed, most understood why |
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| 17:57.05 | Neo|Other | you're some weird hordling right? |
| 17:57.08 | Obelixprime | what's your toon ackis? |
| 17:57.12 | AckisWork | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ackis/Previous_Guilds#Team_Ice_.5B14.5D |
| 17:57.20 | AckisWork | troll priest |
| 17:57.31 | Neo|Other | yep. not only horde, but weird |
| 17:57.36 | Neo|Other | did you spec troll for Alar? :P |
| 17:57.45 | AckisWork | :P |
| 17:57.54 | AckisWork | (that bug works on many mobs actually lol) |
| 17:58.00 | AckisWork | Ring of blood |
| 17:58.09 | AckisWork | and there was another one where it worked too |
| 17:58.43 | Neo|Other | man you're a GUILD HOPPER! |
| 17:58.51 | AckisWork | totally |
| 17:58.52 | AckisWork | :( |
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| 17:59.19 | AckisWork | half them disbanded, 2 of them because I quit the game :P |
| 17:59.48 | Obelixprime | lol ackis |
| 18:00.46 | AckisWork | I have a detailed wiki page :( |
| 18:00.49 | AckisWork | <-- loser |
| 18:00.55 | Neo|Other | never got a C'Thun kill. |
| 18:01.19 | AckisWork | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ackis/Raid_Progression_Information |
| 18:01.21 | AckisWork | keke |
| 18:01.21 | Neo|Other | I left my then-guild before they got that kill because the raid times were unworkable and I spent most time on standby |
| 18:01.25 | Groktar | my guild made it to p2 a bunch |
| 18:01.30 | Obelixprime | Ackis, are you canadian? |
| 18:01.31 | Groktar | but never actually killed him |
| 18:01.32 | Josh_Borke | ~lart AckisWork |
| 18:01.32 | purl | steals AckisWork's mojo |
| 18:01.37 | AckisWork | Obelixprime: yes |
| 18:01.45 | Obelixprime | Nice, where from? |
| 18:01.46 | AckisWork | Josh_Borke: you're just jealous |
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| 18:02.12 | Josh_Borke | AckisWork: of your mad wiki pages that detail your life in wow? ;-P |
| 18:02.20 | AckisWork | hehe |
| 18:02.27 | AckisWork | I should do one up for swg eh? |
| 18:02.34 | AckisWork | Obelixprime: Edmonton |
| 18:03.22 | Neo|Other | the guild at the time had issues with .. err standing in the right spot |
| 18:03.54 | Neo|Other | man M'uru gives me a bit of C'thun vibes |
| 18:04.01 | Neo|Other | so many wipes (curious how many now...) |
| 18:04.13 | Obelixprime | we had ~500 i think over 8 weeks |
| 18:04.21 | Groktar | spits on muru |
| 18:04.33 | Obelixprime | probably closer to 400 |
| 18:04.35 | Obelixprime | but a lot |
| 18:04.52 | Neo|Other | 143 wipes |
| 18:04.55 | Groktar | sounds about right |
| 18:05.05 | Groktar | figure 30 attempts a night, two nights a week |
| 18:05.05 | Groktar | for 8 weeks |
| 18:05.11 | Groktar | and then take a few nights off |
| 18:05.17 | Neo|Other | best so far is is 65% phase 2 |
| 18:05.27 | Neo|Other | only recently made it to phase 2 (last week) |
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| 18:05.45 | Neo|Other | we've had issues getting the people to do the raids in the first place and have called raids early/called them before we started etc |
| 18:05.46 | Groktar | we made it to p2 a few times pre-nerf |
| 18:05.47 | Obelixprime | have you been doing a triangle formation in p2? |
| 18:05.58 | Obelixprime | we got him to 1% pre-nerf :( |
| 18:06.02 | Groktar | are you cheesing the start Neo? |
| 18:06.03 | Obelixprime | next week we 1 shot him |
| 18:06.13 | Neo|Other | we've tried but really haven't been ni phase 2 in a cotnrolled manner enough |
| 18:06.17 | Neo|Other | Groktar: how so? |
| 18:06.33 | Groktar | pull with an eye of kilrogg and despawn it as soon as he aggros with everyone outside |
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| 18:06.50 | Neo|Other | no. why would we do that? |
| 18:06.51 | Groktar | then you have 40 seconds to get set up before he respawns |
| 18:07.13 | Neo|Other | I doubt that would make much difference in any way. |
| 18:07.14 | Groktar | so you can get him to 65% by the time the first sentinel spawns |
| 18:07.17 | Neo|Other | a few more seconds of DPS |
| 18:07.33 | Obelixprime | we get him to around 65% by the first darkness |
| 18:07.43 | Neo|Other | although it's possible it'd be sufficient to cut one round of humanoids out |
| 18:08.03 | Groktar | it is |
| 18:08.21 | Groktar | just makes it a lot easier to consistently make it to p2 |
| 18:12.24 | CIA-46 | 03pettigrow * r80744 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-frFR.lua: AckisRecipeList: frFR Update |
| 18:12.40 | Neo|Other | so when the eye of kilrogg dies (or is manually despawned), he just resets? |
| 18:15.35 | Groktar | ya |
| 18:15.38 | Groktar | so long as everyone is outside |
| 18:16.12 | nevcairiel | exploiters! |
| 18:16.43 | Groktar | hehe |
| 18:17.20 | Groktar | p2 is just so mindless and repetitive |
| 18:17.23 | Groktar | er, p1 |
| 18:17.25 | Groktar | and long |
| 18:17.33 | Groktar | anything to just get past it is a bonus |
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| 18:20.18 | Obelixprime | it was worse pre-nerf |
| 18:20.31 | Groktar | ya |
| 18:20.37 | Obelixprime | now i'm pretty surprised, like i'm focused on mass dispelling the darkness |
| 18:20.47 | Obelixprime | but before we would get him to like 75% after the first darkness |
| 18:20.55 | Obelixprime | and it felt like it was going on forever |
| 18:20.57 | Groktar | i'm semi-afk |
| 18:21.06 | Groktar | my job is to heal a side tank |
| 18:21.19 | Obelixprime | but with the nerf p1 seems a lot faster |
| 18:21.22 | Obelixprime | brain heal? |
| 18:21.23 | Groktar | ya |
| 18:21.43 | Groktar | pretty much just spam low rank gheal |
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| 18:22.10 | Groktar | i don't really like doing too much more than that because i don't get a spriest |
| 18:22.20 | Groktar | and i like going into p2 with full mana |
| 18:22.52 | Groktar | well, usually 50% and then pop my fiend |
| 18:23.58 | Obelixprime | hmm |
| 18:25.04 | Neo|Other | we've gotten M'uru post nerf to around 67% before the first sentinel |
| 18:25.07 | Neo|Other | withotu cheesing it |
| 18:25.20 | Neo|Other | we had 3 locks doing over 3000 dps for the pre-sentinel duration though :P |
| 18:25.30 | Neo|Other | like 50-65% crit rates at least |
| 18:27.47 | Obelixprime | i was at 1650 dps on brut this week..... until the raid leader told me to make changes to our raid composition mid fight |
| 18:27.57 | Obelixprime | then it dropped to like 1510 or so |
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| 18:34.06 | CIA-46 | Parrot: |
| 18:34.06 | CIA-46 | - fix Aura-triggers breakage from last commit |
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| 18:50.17 | Obelixprime | anyone ever play with openrdx? |
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| 18:54.21 | seracht | hi |
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| 18:59.28 | Obelixprime | hi |
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| 19:01.10 | Neo|Other | Obelixprime: what class do you play? |
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| 19:01.44 | Obelixprime | shadowpriest |
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| 19:05.30 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 19:05.37 | Obelixprime | i was looking at the healing trinket m'uru drops |
| 19:05.38 | seracht | do any of you play a druid |
| 19:05.44 | Obelixprime | and how op it is in wrath |
| 19:05.57 | Obelixprime | due to the healing -> spell power conversion |
| 19:07.35 | Neo|Other | how so? |
| 19:07.54 | Obelixprime | its a 63 passive spell power trinket |
| 19:07.58 | Obelixprime | with a crappy on use |
| 19:08.00 | Obelixprime | so.. |
| 19:08.01 | Obelixprime | meh |
| 19:08.02 | Obelixprime | ok |
| 19:08.04 | Obelixprime | its not that good |
| 19:08.06 | Neo|Other | 63 spell dmg isn't that good |
| 19:08.24 | Neo|Other | the caster one is a lot better |
| 19:08.50 | Neo|Other | 54 haste + 320 spell power for 15s every 1.5m |
| 19:09.03 | Gnarfoz | yeah. I don't know what the healing one is for, it basically sucks? :D |
| 19:09.10 | Obelixprime | ~107 pseudo dmg |
| 19:09.20 | Obelixprime | if 1 haste = 1 dmg |
| 19:11.03 | Neo|Other | I hope we have better luck with the trinket than we've had with the skull |
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| 19:12.22 | Obelixprime | oh god, our skull is cursed |
| 19:12.31 | Obelixprime | its gone to like 3 people who have stopped playing within a month of getting it :( |
| 19:12.49 | Neo|Other | wow you've gotten 3 ! |
| 19:13.38 | seracht | anyone here use GridStatusHots? |
| 19:13.41 | Neo|Other | so my hunter has some hot gear - http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Ilun |
| 19:13.51 | Neo|Other | half greens, half ZA epics with really nothing inbetween |
| 19:14.20 | Obelixprime | we have like 6 i think =/ |
| 19:14.27 | Neo|Other | 2 |
| 19:14.35 | Neo|Other | with one in the guild. after like 35 kills |
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| 19:15.17 | Obelixprime | killed illidan beginning of november |
| 19:15.20 | Obelixprime | how many glaives? |
| 19:15.27 | Arrowmaster | Obelixprime: same with ours except now it doesnt matter anymore! |
| 19:15.33 | Neo|Other | two mainhand |
| 19:15.42 | Arrowmaster | two mainhand one offhand |
| 19:15.51 | Obelixprime | cool, we got 2 sets, but one of the sets ebayed his account |
| 19:16.44 | Neo|Other | the amazing fact is that the glaives drop as commonly as skulls! |
| 19:17.14 | Neo|Other | I REALLy hope wotlk solves that issue with heavy use of badges/tokens |
| 19:17.16 | Arrowmaster | we got 1 heally trinket |
| 19:17.19 | Neo|Other | and very minimal actual item drops |
| 19:17.20 | Arrowmaster | 3 glaives |
| 19:17.25 | Neo|Other | we have like 7-8 healing trinkets |
| 19:18.18 | Arrowmaster | i think the trinket went to a shaman too because like 3 of our main healers werent there that night or something |
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| 19:20.14 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 19:20.33 | Arrowmaster | well it would have gone to a druid or shaman anyway |
| 19:20.35 | Obelixprime | we gave our first memento and healing MH to a resto druid who used it in arenas for like a month then stopped playing the game |
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| 19:20.54 | Obelixprime | my guilds really good at assigning loot :D |
| 19:21.16 | Pneumatus | they should ditch loot completely on bosses, and make it 100% tokens imo |
| 19:21.17 | Arrowmaster | we never got healing mainhands |
| 19:21.18 | Arrowmaster | ever |
| 19:21.36 | Pneumatus | plus, youd never need dkp then |
| 19:21.49 | Obelixprime | i don't know how the full token system would work |
| 19:22.01 | Obelixprime | i think it would lessen the appeal of the game |
| 19:22.16 | Zyndrome | "They plan to make premades level 80 available toward the end of the beta, so newcomers on beta realms can test the end-game content as soon as possible." |
| 19:22.18 | Obelixprime | since the game is based mostly on Pavlovian response |
| 19:22.20 | Zyndrome | no no no no no no no |
| 19:22.40 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 19:23.28 | Arrowmaster | Zyndrome: where are you quoting that lie from? |
| 19:23.36 | Zyndrome | http://www.worldofraids.com/news/256.html |
| 19:23.46 | Arrowmaster | oh its WoR |
| 19:23.57 | Arrowmaster | like anybody belives them |
| 19:24.03 | Zyndrome | in any case, do not want 80 premades |
| 19:24.10 | Arrowmaster | they wont |
| 19:24.22 | Pneumatus | agree, DO NOT want premade 80s |
| 19:24.27 | Zyndrome | oooh the chaos |
| 19:24.35 | Pneumatus | just down to the amount of noobs that will be OMG INVITE ME I AM 80 OK"!? |
| 19:24.43 | Bibi` | It's not like there is any open beta scheduled. |
| 19:24.56 | Arrowmaster | because they wont do open beta |
| 19:24.58 | Bibi` | oh, did I say that publicly ? :p |
| 19:25.23 | Pneumatus | there will no doubt be a 3.0 public beta, but that is different |
| 19:25.30 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 19:25.33 | Neo|Other | Obelixprime: a combination badge (drops of all bosses) and tokens (boss speciic things that turn into boss specific loot, perhaps combined with badge) sounds good to me |
| 19:25.35 | Arrowmaster | no new content |
| 19:25.40 | Neo|Other | frankly the whole "RNG" thing is crap |
| 19:25.50 | Neo|Other | even with tier 4/5/6 tokens it's crap, even when 3 items drop |
| 19:26.08 | Neo|Other | althoguh we finally got a conq belt after 5 weeks it was just one belt |
| 19:26.18 | Neo|Other | and still ahve a bunch of ppl that needs it |
| 19:27.10 | Neo|Other | there's really nothing fun with random loot at all |
| 19:27.32 | Neo|Other | imagine if pvp had random loot - you killed X and could get Y from a vendor.. except Y could be anything, for any class |
| 19:28.08 | Pneumatus | if they implement a system with a combination of tokens and drops that can be exchanged at vendors, a-la-sunmote, then that could work |
| 19:28.25 | Neo|Other | sure |
| 19:28.35 | Neo|Other | except anything that is RNG still means you might be screwed |
| 19:28.47 | Neo|Other | unless it's "the shoulder item" that's usable by anyone |
| 19:29.00 | Neo|Other | you'll get streaks of disenchanted/rotting loot for guilds |
| 19:29.01 | Pneumatus | id make it "the shoulder item" if i was doing it |
| 19:29.30 | Pneumatus | or make tier gear badge of justice style |
| 19:29.30 | Neo|Other | I mean if you have just two items, for example, it's better than if you haver 5-8 items |
| 19:29.41 | Neo|Other | but tier tokens very clearly prove that it's not sufficient |
| 19:30.08 | Neo|Other | case and point - 6 weeks on brutallus, one belt of the conquerer and probably 8-10 protector |
| 19:30.46 | Obelixprime | i would make everything sort of like the sunmote system |
| 19:30.53 | Obelixprime | i.e. you can exchange drop this for that |
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| 19:31.02 | Obelixprime | but you have to have this item that drops in the instance |
| 19:31.06 | Obelixprime | like a sun mote |
| 19:31.09 | Neo|Other | still though, you have just two items |
| 19:31.15 | Neo|Other | it halves the loot but doesn't "fix" the issue |
| 19:31.21 | Obelixprime | not necessarily |
| 19:31.27 | Obelixprime | it could be currency for multiple items |
| 19:31.31 | Obelixprime | so say a shoulder item drops |
| 19:31.35 | Obelixprime | mail healing shoulders |
| 19:31.37 | selckin | allow people to allocate ilevel values to stats as they feel like. |
| 19:31.43 | Obelixprime | and you have no resto shaman in the raid |
| 19:31.46 | Obelixprime | you give it to a hunter |
| 19:31.47 | Arrowmaster | so my friend transfered is rogue with 2 glaives to a new server after we broke up and stoped raiding, first raid night finds out the new guild has decided to do joint raids with a new guild due to attendance and hes sitting out, they get a tripple vanq drop and 2 of them goto offspec |
| 19:31.48 | Lyn_ | anyone knows a mod who says me what could come out of disenchanting some green crap? |
| 19:31.55 | selckin | ilevel 140, i'll spend 40 on stamina, 100 on spelldamage ! |
| 19:32.01 | Obelixprime | and you give them badge turnin item A and they can get hunter shoulders |
| 19:32.07 | Neo|Other | selckin: that I don't think would be advisable :P |
| 19:32.25 | Neo|Other | Obelixprime: as per my point - as long as the item can be exchanged for anything, sure |
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| 19:32.39 | Neo|Other | but even limited by 3 classes or "mail users" or whatever, you'll get the same issue |
| 19:32.40 | selckin | Neo|Other: it would be funny tho 'gear respecs' :p |
| 19:32.43 | Neo|Other | RNG is a bitch |
| 19:32.43 | Poul|Raider | yO |
| 19:32.51 | Obelixprime | i would prefer some limitation |
| 19:32.53 | Poul|Raider | are there any way to test if a person is ignoring you without writing em? |
| 19:33.01 | Obelixprime | just because i know in my guild loot is divi'd out pretty slowly |
| 19:33.27 | Obelixprime | so, if for each item it would ahve to be considered across all members of the raid |
| 19:33.31 | Obelixprime | for multiple pieces of loot |
| 19:33.35 | Obelixprime | it would be so slow |
| 19:33.42 | Obelixprime | regardless of what system you implement |
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| 19:35.00 | Obelixprime | i think a memory based RNG would be neat |
| 19:35.04 | Obelixprime | and a personal raid id |
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| 19:36.28 | Obelixprime | assuming that the loot is determined when the mob spawns, determine the drops by calculating the history of previous drops from the members of the raid when the instance is first entered |
| 19:36.35 | Neo|Other | Obelixprime: I'd prefer loot to be guaranteed |
| 19:36.38 | Neo|Other | like badge items |
| 19:36.50 | Neo|Other | no need to do DKP or crap like that |
| 19:37.07 | Obelixprime | I don't know... |
| 19:37.17 | Obelixprime | would a boss badge drop for each member in the raid? |
| 19:37.20 | Neo|Other | do you enjoy running BT for 6 months? |
| 19:37.22 | Neo|Other | sure |
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| 19:37.41 | Neo|Other | buy an item for boss badge + token (special items like skull of gul'dan) or just tokens (random mismash items) |
| 19:37.59 | Neo|Other | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.10 | Neo|Other | loot by setting the prices on items |
| 19:38.15 | Arrowmaster | problem with badges is that you get nothing from the first kills if its BoJ style and thus dont have the new gear required for the next boss |
| 19:38.21 | Neo|Other | the main drawback of course is back-gearing |
| 19:38.23 | Obelixprime | i think if that's the case then the value of the items you purchased would have to decrease |
| 19:38.31 | seracht | do you guys have any recommended addons for buff bars? |
| 19:38.32 | Obelixprime | or the number of items increase |
| 19:38.41 | Obelixprime | seracht: i use ebb |
| 19:38.49 | seracht | ebb? |
| 19:38.55 | Obelixprime | elk buff bars |
| 19:39.03 | seracht | alright i'm good with that |
| 19:39.07 | Neo|Other | I dunno how to best fix it, but the current system is just stupid |
| 19:39.09 | Obelixprime | they're ok, but i change it usually |
| 19:39.28 | Obelixprime | I would like more quest tokens |
| 19:39.29 | Arrowmaster | grr damn TF2 needing to fucking defrag, i want to go earn my sandvich |
| 19:39.38 | Obelixprime | i.e. quest item drops |
| 19:39.42 | Obelixprime | you cna go and turn in that item |
| 19:39.43 | Obelixprime | each time |
| 19:39.59 | Obelixprime | sort of like what they were planning for the gates in swp |
| 19:40.46 | Obelixprime | rather than just going to some guy and be like here's tokens |
| 19:40.55 | Obelixprime | albeit its the same system you're proposing neo |
| 19:41.00 | Obelixprime | just wrapped differently |
| 19:41.18 | Obelixprime | I remember seeing a huge thread on the EJ forums detailing alternatives |
| 19:41.30 | Obelixprime | I think more of a quest/rep/token system would work the best |
| 19:41.40 | Arrowmaster | i like the lore idea of it being a drop of some weird items and not like a drop of a belt token too |
| 19:41.56 | Neo|Other | tht I could care less about :P |
| 19:42.01 | Arrowmaster | like having to take it to an npc to use the item of raw power to craft something for you |
| 19:42.03 | Obelixprime | i.e. need x amount of rep, certain quest item, x number of tokens |
| 19:42.16 | Obelixprime | to get an item |
| 19:42.28 | Obelixprime | so you'd be gurantee'd an item every 2-3 kills |
| 19:42.34 | Obelixprime | unless you got THE item off the boss |
| 19:42.40 | Obelixprime | which would grant anyone an item |
| 19:42.43 | Obelixprime | something like that |
| 19:42.48 | Obelixprime | so you could gear out someone real fast |
| 19:42.58 | Obelixprime | but the entire raid progresses each kill towards getting loot |
| 19:43.47 | Azeazezar | Is there an UI pack designed for a dual monitor (2650x1024) system? |
| 19:44.36 | Neo|Other | they should make it so you need a relative fix amount of instance clearing before you can / should mvoe on |
| 19:44.45 | Neo|Other | I mean part of the issue si that there are items ni BT you can't just replace |
| 19:44.49 | Arrowmaster | Azeazezar: nobody here gives a fuck about UI packs |
| 19:44.52 | Neo|Other | like Skull of Gul'dan |
| 19:45.06 | Thrae | Azeazezar: I play in 2560x1600 with one monitor and just use my own setup. |
| 19:47.03 | CrazyBenny | they should just make smaller raid instances, so you dont have to kill 7 bosses, that noone needs to get to boss with still useful items |
| 19:47.35 | CrazyBenny | if every loot was obtainable by "badges", it would be fucking boring:P |
| 19:47.47 | Arrowmaster | it already is fucking boring |
| 19:47.56 | Obelixprime | as well as only onyxia type of instances |
| 19:48.11 | Obelixprime | if everything had 1 boss, 0 trash things would be boring too |
| 19:48.19 | fewyn | hmm |
| 19:48.29 | fewyn | i'm really liking dragonblight horde side |
| 19:48.42 | Neo|Other | CrazyBenny: how is it not fucking boring to farm the same crap week after week and DEing >1/2 the stuff just hoping to get a few good items? |
| 19:48.44 | Arrowmaster | ony was good because she had tier2 gear |
| 19:49.18 | Neo|Other | and the first raid instance in WotLK has what, 15 bosses ? |
| 19:49.29 | steev | 15! |
| 19:49.30 | steev | wow |
| 19:49.37 | Neo|Other | Naxxramas is loaded |
| 19:49.45 | Neo|Other | mind you 4 distinct, non-linear wings |
| 19:49.59 | Neo|Other | but still. it's huge |
| 19:50.05 | Obelixprime | They've said how many bosses are going to be in Naxx? |
| 19:50.05 | Arrowmaster | and 3 horsemen! |
| 19:50.17 | steev | how many are headless |
| 19:50.24 | nevcairiel | Obelixprime: naxx was/is in the game already, remember? |
| 19:50.27 | Obelixprime | I thought many of the bosses were converted to NPC's for the DK questline |
| 19:50.40 | Neo|Other | they were |
| 19:50.48 | Neo|Other | but once you're done all but one (fodring) are gone |
| 19:50.51 | Arrowmaster | only 1 for sure isnt going to still be in naxx |
| 19:50.55 | Neo|Other | so they can just as wlel be back in neonax |
| 19:51.03 | Obelixprime | ooooh |
| 19:51.04 | Obelixprime | alright |
| 19:51.11 | Obelixprime | <= haven't completed his DK questlines |
| 19:51.16 | Neo|Other | you go all nice and fuzzy in the end |
| 19:51.17 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: you sure he is not going to be there? I dont see that happen ;) |
| 19:51.28 | Obelixprime | I only made a DK did the first quest, and then stopped playing beta to raid :P |
| 19:51.45 | Arrowmaster | unless they have some weird lore shit going on again he wont |
| 19:51.45 | Neo|Other | my DK is 67 |
| 19:51.56 | Neo|Other | and I doubt he'd go bad again |
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| 19:52.22 | Neo|Other | 4HM needs to be reworked significantly to work with 10 and 25 man raids anyway |
| 19:53.21 | nevcairiel | ya, but i look forward to 10-man naxx, just to see how they tuned it |
| 19:53.47 | nevcairiel | also i'll get to tank with my warr then |
| 19:53.48 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 19:54.11 | Obelixprime | I was thinking of rerolling boomkin for wrath |
| 19:54.17 | kenlyric | naxx is just huge |
| 19:54.25 | Arrowmaster | too bad the ashbringer to clensed, would have been cool for it to corrupt the new guy with it and end up being able to fight him in naxx for it still |
| 19:54.25 | kenlyric | for a 10 man |
| 19:54.31 | kenlyric | I think they'll wing it |
| 19:54.50 | nevcairiel | its already wing'ed? =P |
| 19:54.51 | Obelixprime | although I want to get as many 70s before then so I can meet any sort of requirements for the guild i'm in |
| 19:54.57 | kenlyric | not really |
| 19:55.06 | Obelixprime | although transferring 5-7 80s would be expensive |
| 19:55.07 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 19:55.50 | nevcairiel | kenlyric: multiple instances? I dont really think so, that would be a major re-design, and the "unlocking" of the frost-wing is hard to code |
| 19:55.55 | Neo|Other | I only did 5 fights in naxx |
| 19:55.58 | Neo|Other | and only saw 4 wins |
| 19:56.17 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 19:56.31 | Neo|Other | spider clear ( no death seen on middle due to standby), noth and razuvious |
| 19:56.35 | nevcairiel | we didnt kill the horsemen :( |
| 19:56.42 | nevcairiel | last boss before frost-wing |
| 19:57.06 | kenlyric | to be fair, a lot of people didn't kill them |
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| 19:57.30 | nevcairiel | well our problem mostly was that we hit them at beginning of december |
| 19:57.41 | nevcairiel | and really didnt have any decent raid until BC release |
| 19:57.44 | Pneumatus | wtb cart waypoints/route wps for the skyshatter quest :< |
| 19:59.27 | Ellipsis | just memorize the path, doesn't take too many tries |
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| 20:04.41 | Groktar | *downlaoder |
| 20:04.42 | Groktar | frick |
| 20:04.45 | Groktar | *downloader |
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| 20:15.45 | mjc | yarrr |
| 20:15.49 | mjc | fun abounds |
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| 20:24.30 | CIA-46 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r117c28c 10/ README.textile : Add more info to README, recommend people install LightHeaded also - http://is.gd/1Mm3 |
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| 20:31.31 | ramoz | wah |
| 20:31.43 | ramoz | eu login server gaying upi again? |
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| 20:35.25 | Hjalte | Tekkub: Remember my question about adding quest levels to quest you don't have yet? Here's Smooth Quest doing it: http://www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_081908_180546.jpg - I don't know how it does it though. |
| 20:37.46 | Tekkub | Hjalte, looks like it gets it from the API |
| 20:38.22 | Pneumatus | is it possible in closetgnome to not switch to your riding set inside instances? |
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| 20:38.45 | Hjalte | Pneumatus: I think there is an option like that. |
| 20:39.01 | Pneumatus | i'll have another look then, maybe i missed it |
| 20:40.36 | CrazyBenny | Pneumatus: Theres option in the ClosetGnome -> Mount |
| 20:41.22 | nevcairiel | i just use MountMe for that |
| 20:41.39 | nevcairiel | works better then the CG plugin |
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| 20:42.01 | nevcairiel | (unless you want to switch more, then the trinket) |
| 20:42.20 | Pneumatus | no, its just so i dont end up with the bloody riding crop equipped in instances |
| 20:42.27 | Pneumatus | in black morass etc |
| 20:42.28 | profalbert | those mount-speed-buffs don't stack anyway |
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| 20:42.44 | nevcairiel | profalbert: maybe they're into RP and want riding gloves |
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| 20:43.33 | nevcairiel | Pneumatus: yeah i hate those, remember riding into C'Thun on my bug mount, and still having the items equpped |
| 20:43.36 | Pneumatus | its just for the crop, will check out MountMe as well, thanks :) |
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| 20:45.22 | nevcairiel | Also MountMe works with the druid flight charm, last time i tried CG Mount it didnt :D |
| 20:47.32 | Groktar | blizzard downloader really needs to learn to throttle its upload |
| 20:47.33 | Groktar | :( |
| 20:47.51 | Pneumatus | ah, it also lets you disable swapping in bgs, bonus |
| 20:47.53 | selckin | it should just provide the .torrent aswel |
| 20:48.01 | Groktar | that would be nice |
| 20:48.08 | Pneumatus | hahah, dumb addon is dumb |
| 20:48.21 | Pneumatus | its equipped my carrot, gloves and boots rather than my riding crop |
| 20:48.27 | selckin | Use our simple client or Here is a list of torrent addons and .torrent |
| 20:48.29 | selckin | how hard can it be |
| 20:48.35 | nevcairiel | Pneumatus: why do you even have those? |
| 20:48.35 | Pneumatus | (as i happen to have them in my bag) |
| 20:48.36 | selckin | s/addons/programs/ |
| 20:48.38 | nevcairiel | and carry them around |
| 20:48.44 | Pneumatus | nevcairiel: just completed the skyshatter quest |
| 20:48.47 | Pneumatus | normally i dont have them :) |
| 20:48.52 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 20:48.59 | nevcairiel | i just bought a crop |
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| 20:49.41 | Pneumatus | ah, its equipped gloves, boots and whip now |
| 20:49.45 | Pneumatus | and is ignoring carrot |
| 20:56.24 | Pneumatus | hmm, MountMe only stops switching in raid instances, not 5mans |
| 20:56.48 | nevcairiel | (which 5 man can you mount in?) |
| 20:57.00 | Pneumatus | black morass |
| 20:57.03 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 20:57.04 | nevcairiel | right |
| 20:57.08 | nevcairiel | bug Tekkub about it |
| 20:57.15 | Pneumatus | zul farrak |
| 20:57.31 | Pneumatus | that's probably it, actually |
| 20:57.42 | Xelo | both of those are outdoor 5 mans |
| 20:57.47 | Xelo | probably happens in ZA too |
| 20:57.55 | Pneumatus | ZA is a raid instance, so thats covered |
| 20:58.47 | Pneumatus | i should check his latest version in git first |
| 20:58.51 | Pneumatus | else i might get shouted at |
| 21:00.11 | nevcairiel | its still raid |
| 21:00.28 | nevcairiel | i use all my addons from git/svn if i can |
| 21:02.13 | Groktar | cheers @ wotlk installer |
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| 21:03.45 | Pneumatus | i just grabbed MountMe from wowi, seeing as i dont have a git client installed |
| 21:04.15 | Obelixprime | nevcariel: so if there's an issue with a new addon you can just revert it to an old one? |
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| 21:09.01 | harl | ~prat |
| 21:09.01 | purl | i guess prat is either A - british slang for 'A fool, idiot or objectionable person', B - the swedish word for 'chat, chatter or talk', or C - an Ace 2 World of Warcraft addon |
| 21:09.19 | sylvanaar | yikes |
| 21:09.30 | harl | yay! |
| 21:09.36 | sedai| | i had to turn off my firewall for wotlk installer to move at a pace that i was happy with |
| 21:09.43 | harl | loves purl. |
| 21:10.59 | sylvanaar | purl, prat is also the reason Sylvaanar still pays Bliz every month |
| 21:10.59 | purl | sylvanaar: okay |
| 21:11.08 | Obelixprime | nevairiel why do you use git/svn for your addons? |
| 21:11.22 | sedai| | prat and pitbull |
| 21:11.30 | sedai| | i am lost without pitbull |
| 21:11.34 | profalbert | ~prat |
| 21:11.35 | purl | prat is, like, either A - british slang for 'A fool, idiot or objectionable person', B - the swedish word for 'chat, chatter or talk', or C - an Ace 2 World of Warcraft addon, or the reason Sylvaanar still pays Bliz every month |
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| 21:11.47 | sedai| | lol |
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| 21:13.45 | steev | <3 sylvanaar |
| 21:13.56 | steev | every other chat addon sucks |
| 21:14.06 | harl | sedai|: me too. |
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| 21:14.27 | seracht | hmm |
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| 21:15.24 | sedai| | i couldnt find a wotlk compatible version of pitbull :( |
| 21:15.37 | seracht | is there a window version of bartender |
| 21:15.45 | seracht | never mind |
| 21:15.55 | sedai| | i use dominos |
| 21:16.14 | profalbert | sedai|: the live-version doesn't work? |
| 21:16.25 | sedai| | not that i saw |
| 21:16.50 | profalbert | sedai|: I installed x-perl on my betaclinet |
| 21:17.32 | sedai| | i havent used that |
| 21:17.51 | sedai| | ina very long time |
| 21:18.03 | nevcairiel | agUF has a fine working beta branch =P |
| 21:18.11 | profalbert | sedai|: me neither, but the beta-version on wowinterface works just fine |
| 21:18.25 | profalbert | or was it curse |
| 21:18.27 | Groktar | wheee patch time |
| 21:18.28 | NivFreak | sedai|: the main line |
| 21:19.45 | Pkekyo| | anyone know the difference between UPS Worldwide EXPEDITED and UPS Worldwide EXPRESS? |
| 21:21.33 | Matrix110 | one of them is more expensive |
| 21:21.38 | Pneumatus | 1 extra letter in the former |
| 21:21.46 | Pkekyo| | Matrix110: which one? |
| 21:21.59 | Pkekyo| | the prices are allready insane...shipping costs me more than the bloody merchandise :< |
| 21:22.12 | sedai| | aguf, lol havent heard of that in forever |
| 21:22.22 | sedai| | i used to like that a lot |
| 21:22.23 | Matrix110 | good question EXPRESS is usual more special but cant you just check UPS page? :P |
| 21:22.26 | seracht | anyone here use ElkBuffBar |
| 21:22.31 | seracht | how do you turn off the categories and just show the buffs |
| 21:22.40 | Pkekyo| | Matrix110: the rates are item specific, it seems |
| 21:22.43 | sedai| | intelligence |
| 21:23.58 | Matrix110 | Pkekyo| normally its based on weight and size |
| 21:24.43 | Groktar | "Naxxramas mechanics changes to suit 25 players raid include a new version of the Four Horsemen allowing non-tanking classes to tank some of the bosses." |
| 21:24.48 | Groktar | i was wondering about that |
| 21:24.59 | Pneumatus | so, a lock then. |
| 21:25.37 | Pneumatus | either that or make it ccable |
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| 21:26.43 | Matrix110 | Pkekyo| cant you just use the calculator on ups.com btw? |
| 21:27.35 | Pkekyo| | Matrix110: it doesn't give me prices, only estimated shipping dates |
| 21:27.36 | Pneumatus | argh, ive broke MountMe already |
| 21:27.41 | Matrix110 | oh |
| 21:28.15 | Pneumatus | if you start gathering herbs while your mounted, it tries to swap but cant, and then wont carry on equip/unequipping |
| 21:28.58 | Matrix110 | Express is more expensive atleast |
| 21:29.33 | Matrix110 | Express is 1-2days |
| 21:29.36 | Matrix110 | other one 2-5days |
| 21:34.48 | CIA-46 | quelevel: 03Tekkub 07master * r24d6621 10/ Quelevel.lua : Add quest levels to quest gossip - http://is.gd/1Mt6 |
| 21:35.07 | Tekkub | Hjalte, ^ |
| 21:35.18 | Hjalte | Tekkub: Nice :) |
| 21:38.03 | Pkekyo| | $116 shipping for $80 worth of merchandise :/ |
| 21:38.03 | Pkekyo| | doesn't seem right to me |
| 21:38.47 | CIA-46 | 03Copystring * r80746 10YurrCombatLog/ (Config.lua Core.lua): |
| 21:38.47 | CIA-46 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 21:38.47 | CIA-46 | - small fix for guardian colors |
| 21:38.47 | CIA-46 | - removed unnecessary code |
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| 21:42.27 | Pkekyo| | the merchandise cost isn't even 70% of the shipping cost |
| 21:43.23 | Pkekyo| | unreasonable as titties |
| 21:46.37 | sb | titties, shipping, ...? |
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| 21:47.27 | Ellipsis | pancakes. |
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| 21:50.51 | Pkekyo| | sb: I'd wish |
| 21:50.57 | Pkekyo| | just some toys :( |
| 21:51.19 | Matrix110 | heavy? |
| 21:52.22 | Matrix110 | And UPS shipping always was expensive |
| 21:52.58 | Matrix110 | Its a bit sad that HongKong Post manages to charge like 8 for 1kg while others take 40 :P |
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| 21:59.03 | Pkekyo| | Matrix110: no, under 1kg |
| 22:00.26 | seracht | any healers mind showing me their UI? |
| 22:01.03 | fewyn | Ding 72 |
| 22:01.47 | seracht | grats |
| 22:02.08 | Groktar | my ui is terrible, but oki |
| 22:02.22 | Groktar | http://www.guild-impulse.net/download/file.php?mode=view&id=76 |
| 22:02.38 | Groktar | doh, grid is small in that picture |
| 22:02.47 | Groktar | but you can see where it would be |
| 22:03.24 | Groktar | my focus and focustarget are above and to the left of my player frame |
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| 22:10.28 | Trell_ | fewyn; what class? just got my resto shammy to 72 this mroning |
| 22:10.30 | Trell_ | *morning |
| 22:10.42 | Trell_ | stayed up till 6am, desperately trying to hit 72 :P |
| 22:10.55 | fewyn | druid feral |
| 22:11.00 | fewyn | i'm OP |
| 22:11.02 | Groktar | so i am supposed to use the temporary login in the beta client, right? |
| 22:11.20 | fewyn | yes |
| 22:11.26 | fewyn | it's an email address and password |
| 22:11.28 | Trell_ | seracht; http://img26.picoodle.com/data/img26/3/8/20/f_WoWScrnShotm_bef4681.jpg - I have Clique running, left click on any unit frame (including grid) for LHW, right click for HW, middle click for chain heal |
| 22:11.30 | Groktar | oh, i'm dumb |
| 22:11.32 | Trell_ | stupidly easy |
| 22:11.36 | Groktar | i didn't click the very last button |
| 22:11.45 | Trell_ | Groktar; if you're eu, it's your account name and password |
| 22:11.50 | Trell_ | only in the US is it your email address. |
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| 22:16.12 | Groktar | ya, after i had put in my account info and desired login and whatnot |
| 22:16.28 | Groktar | it took me to something that looked like a confirmation page, but i still had to click one more button |
| 22:16.35 | Groktar | <- tard |
| 22:16.58 | Trell_ | err what? |
| 22:17.01 | Trell_ | desired login? |
| 22:17.08 | Trell_ | what exactly were you doing? |
| 22:18.14 | Groktar | the email and password you want to use |
| 22:18.46 | Trell_ | I didn't have to do that when I signed up with my beta code |
| 22:20.57 | seracht | Wow Trell_ really nice |
| 22:21.12 | seracht | how did you do those backgrounds |
| 22:21.15 | Groktar | are you eu then? |
| 22:21.39 | Trell_ | im EU yes. |
| 22:21.47 | Trell_ | seracht; actually, I'm gonna admit I cheated. |
| 22:21.59 | Groktar | that's why Trell_ |
| 22:22.04 | Trell_ | the UI itself is based on Hal's UI, which is absolutely gorgeous. |
| 22:22.12 | Trell_ | however, I've stripped out and added in the majority of stuff |
| 22:22.16 | seracht | the ufs |
| 22:22.18 | seracht | are those pitbull |
| 22:22.20 | Trell_ | yes |
| 22:22.27 | Trell_ | all the textures are Hal's |
| 22:22.43 | Trell_ | thats about all thats remaining from his original UI though |
| 22:22.50 | Trell_ | 'Hal S' is the exact texture name |
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| 22:23.05 | Trell_ | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7975-HalsUIv8.html |
| 22:24.34 | seracht | hmm |
| 22:24.46 | seracht | I like those textures though |
| 22:24.46 | seracht | also |
| 22:24.50 | seracht | how did you do the backgrounds |
| 22:24.53 | seracht | I forgot the name of that mod |
| 22:24.57 | seracht | Screen or something |
| 22:25.02 | seracht | sorry for hitting enter so much |
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| 22:26.11 | Trell_ | Skinner? |
| 22:26.15 | Trell_ | or eePanels |
| 22:28.03 | seracht | eePanels :) |
| 22:28.04 | seracht | thanks |
| 22:28.28 | CIA-46 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * rae1ae0d 10/ TourGuide_Horde/60_61_Hellfire_Peninsula.lua : Typo, ugh - http://is.gd/1MyQ |
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| 22:29.18 | seracht | Also Trell, do you know where that texture s |
| 22:29.19 | seracht | is |
| 22:29.29 | Trell_ | yup |
| 22:29.32 | Trell_ | one second |
| 22:30.27 | seracht | thanks |
| 22:30.33 | Trell_ | assuming you installed the Ui as per the instructions |
| 22:30.47 | Trell_ | WOWDIR\Interface\AddOns\SharedMedia\statusbar\HalS.tga |
| 22:32.48 | Pkekyo| | what's the time in central LA atm? |
| 22:34.18 | seracht | thanks |
| 22:34.32 | Trell_ | np seracht |
| 22:35.34 | Pkekyo| | shopping sucks when the price goes up by 120-130% once shipping is involved :< |
| 22:38.05 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: 3:37pm |
| 22:38.53 | Trell_ | Pkekyo|; Buy this fabulous Xbox360, + 20 games, just 50 euros. then when you go to pay, shipping is 250 euros. |
| 22:39.02 | Trell_ | hehe, classic marketing. |
| 22:42.19 | ckknight | still, not that bad a price |
| 22:42.32 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: cheers |
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| 22:42.39 | ckknight | only 300 eur for the box and the games? |
| 22:42.48 | Pkekyo| | Trell_: well...this stuff doesn't even weigh 1kg |
| 22:43.48 | Pkekyo| | $80 worth of merchandise, shipping is $116 |
| 22:44.19 | gaellalire | Hello, I need help about buttonFacade |
| 22:44.46 | Pkekyo| | no, go home |
| 22:44.48 | Pkekyo| | :p |
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| 22:46.41 | Trell_ | Pkekyo|; shipping is 116$? |
| 22:46.50 | Trell_ | or total incl shipping is 116? |
| 22:46.59 | Trell_ | still a lot of shipping for something weighing that little |
| 22:47.26 | Pkekyo| | Trell_: shipping is $116 |
| 22:47.42 | Pkekyo| | so $197.88 total if memory serves |
| 22:48.00 | Trell_ | wtf |
| 22:48.02 | Pkekyo| | and yes, it's insane |
| 22:48.04 | Trell_ | what is it, plutonium? |
| 22:48.09 | Pkekyo| | no, a pistol holster |
| 22:48.18 | ckknight | gas prices ftw? |
| 22:48.19 | Trell_ | where do you live? |
| 22:48.23 | Pkekyo| | norway |
| 22:48.39 | Trell_ | and it's being shipped from the US I guess since you were talking $ |
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| 22:48.45 | Pkekyo| | aye |
| 22:48.53 | Trell_ | still extortionate |
| 22:49.08 | Pkekyo| | I ordered about 15KGs from hong kong a few months ago, shipping didn't cost mor than $180 |
| 22:49.31 | Trell_ | I know it's not the goods you're after, but thats why I love play.com |
| 22:49.39 | Trell_ | no shipping costs for anywhere in the world |
| 22:49.41 | Trell_ | \0/ |
| 22:50.05 | Pkekyo| | well...I doubt they trade in active retention pistol holsters :p |
| 22:50.36 | Trell_ | actually...no. |
| 22:50.44 | Pkekyo| | x) |
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| 22:52.46 | Pkekyo| | I'd bloody kill myself if they did, after I paid that much for shipping |
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| 23:00.09 | aestil | Antiarc: did you kill m'uru yet? |
| 23:01.22 | Adirelle | anyone using LibStickyFrames-2.0 here ? |
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| 23:22.23 | seracht | Trell_ I can't find that texture |
| 23:22.27 | seracht | there is no hals.tga |
| 23:25.07 | Polarina | Can someone beat that guy up for me? http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5383703083&postId=53828301816&sid=1 |
| 23:25.36 | Groktar | so the dk resources are 3 different energy bars and a rage bar? rofl |
| 23:27.34 | ckknight | Groktar: more like 3 pairs of cooldowns which handles one kind of spell and a rage-like bar that handles another kind of spell |
| 23:28.15 | Polarina | ckknight: For me it would be the same thing: WTC (Way too complicated) |
| 23:28.34 | ckknight | it's actually pretty manageable from my experience |
| 23:29.48 | Polarina | WTC |
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| 23:30.09 | Ellipsis | some people just aren't cut out for that type of thinking |
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| 23:33.48 | orionshock | should i finish nagrand at lvl 68 or go to northrind :\ |
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| 23:36.52 | Pkekyo| | finish nagrand |
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| 23:37.01 | Pkekyo| | plonks Ellipsis |
| 23:38.22 | Aii | kinky? |
| 23:38.27 | Ellipsis | ^-^ |
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| 23:40.28 | Groktar | i love these quests |
| 23:40.36 | Groktar | slaughter 20 villagers! |
| 23:42.34 | Pkekyo| | Aii: if you only knew... |
| 23:43.28 | Zyndrome | Coldarra shutdown D:! |
| 23:45.37 | Civrock | Oh? Shutdown? |
| 23:45.53 | Civrock | They did mention a patch in that GC interview this week. |
| 23:46.00 | Civrock | Today, rather. |
| 23:47.27 | Zyndrome | just patch Blood Aura not untalenting itself :< |
| 23:47.37 | Zyndrome | (and mount-zones) |
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| 23:51.53 | Pkekyo| | STOP TOUCHING YOURSELVES |
| 23:52.06 | Pkekyo| | YOU'RE TOO GODDAMN PREGNANT! |
| 23:52.48 | Funkeh` | k |
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| 23:54.03 | Chompers | oh, it's you |
| 23:54.06 | Chompers | :< |
| 23:55.48 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 23:56.14 | Neo|Other | Zyndrome: that's it? :P |
| 23:56.32 | Zyndrome | :< |
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