| 00:06.15 | CIA-45 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80563 10Prat/modules/AltNames.lua: |
| 00:06.15 | CIA-45 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 00:06.15 | CIA-45 | Fix a load time error message re: slash commands, which dont work atm |
| 00:07.09 | JerleMinara | what's the maximum # of debuffs on a mob that can be shown? 40 same as max applicable? |
| 00:07.59 | nevcairiel | JerleMinara: yes, you can show all debuffs ;) |
| 00:08.22 | JerleMinara | that's a stupid question. for some reason i thought you couldn't show them all |
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| 00:08.34 | JerleMinara | too many beers i guess |
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| 00:15.29 | Trell_ | someone explain to me why theres a quest to free mammoth calves from traps, yet if you get too close to the 'Bull' mammoths, they try and kill you |
| 00:17.24 | Vonhinten | welcome to nature |
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| 00:17.53 | Chompers | you're competition to the females |
| 00:18.28 | Vonhinten | the ones that put her babies in the cages probably walked on 2 legs too :) |
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| 00:21.43 | CIA-45 | 03ulic 07wotlk * r80564 10LittleWigs/LittleWigs_WotLK/ (7 files in 2 dirs): LittleWigs: Added modules for bosses found in The Nexus |
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| 00:23.52 | Trell_ | cheetos, tea, and questin' in the beta. life doesn't get much better! |
| 00:24.20 | Trell_ | (till the world server goes down of course) |
| 00:24.49 | Zyndrome | >>questin' in the beta. |
| 00:24.53 | Zyndrome | www.instantrimshot.com |
| 00:25.17 | Trell_ | errr, what're the chances of me saying that and then the world server going down? |
| 00:25.23 | Trell_ | because thats what happened >_< |
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| 00:36.30 | Hjalte | Tekkub: I'm using your quest level addon at the moment, but I was thinking if it is possible for such an addon to also give me the quest level when the quest giver only has 1 quest? |
| 00:37.04 | Tekkub | you don't know the info unless you have the quest |
| 00:38.25 | Hjalte | Tekkub: I don't know if your addon does it, but I've seen quest level addons adding the [level] things to quests when the quest-giver has more than 1 and they're on a list. But they've had some sort of database then? |
| 00:38.48 | Tekkub | if it's not in your log at the time, yes |
| 00:39.27 | Hjalte | I'm wondering if it could be lightheaded doing it right now. |
| 00:40.43 | Tekkub | doubt it, unless clad added that |
| 00:45.05 | Hjalte | Tekkub: I thought about Tour Guide today. What about an ability for guide authors to somehow tag a quest/questline as not worth doing if you're above a certain level? I mean, you might hit a few instances and then return to the guide you were doing. I suspect though that you'd rather just I skipped the current guide then, but sometimes there are quests leading to open something in the next... |
| 00:45.06 | Hjalte | ...guide etc. (isn't there?) |
| 00:45.55 | Tekkub | notes |
| 00:47.03 | Hjalte | Tekkub: Hmm. You're right that notes could be used, and are used, to sometimes tell me when I shouldnt worry too much about doing certain quests. |
| 00:47.16 | KriLL3 | who's the author of cart btw? |
| 00:47.55 | ckknight | waves at KriLL3 |
| 00:48.15 | JerleMinara | be careful though.. he's like bloody mary.. name him thrice and bad things happen |
| 00:48.23 | KriLL3 | ckknight: why doesn't notes added in cart3 appear on the minimap? :( and why doesn't waypoints work? |
| 00:48.45 | ckknight | KriLL3: I didn't add the minimap support to notes yet. |
| 00:48.52 | ckknight | KriLL3: waypoints works for me, what's wrong with em? |
| 00:48.53 | KriLL3 | when I set a waypoint I get flickering square and text |
| 00:49.02 | ckknight | JerleMinara: you're thinking of Beetlejuice |
| 00:49.07 | KriLL3 | when I set a waypoint I get flickering square and text |
| 00:49.08 | ckknight | KriLL3: most recent version? |
| 00:49.12 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 00:49.42 | KriLL3 | latest is on curse right? |
| 00:49.51 | KriLL3 | It's not on WAU :( |
| 00:50.03 | ckknight | no, nor will it ever be |
| 00:50.07 | ckknight | it's on curse |
| 00:50.07 | KriLL3 | "Cartographer 3.0 v0.9.1" |
| 00:50.11 | ckknight | yea, that's right |
| 00:50.14 | KriLL3 | why not? :( I like wau |
| 00:50.19 | ckknight | because WAU is dying |
| 00:50.30 | ckknight | and cartographer3 will come to wowace after it's dead |
| 00:50.44 | KriLL3 | yeah I know, but curseforge is rubbish (at least atm) takes ages to scan you stuff, then randomly makes addons read only and then crashes |
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| 00:51.16 | ckknight | um, what? |
| 00:51.24 | ckknight | you mean the curse client? |
| 00:51.25 | KriLL3 | and it asks you from what random user collection all you addons are |
| 00:51.27 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 00:51.33 | ckknight | the beta version or the old version? |
| 00:51.37 | KriLL3 | beta |
| 00:51.40 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:51.51 | ckknight | well, the collection thing will be fixed once we purge all the collections from curse |
| 00:52.04 | ckknight | for any other issues, bitch at Kolie either on IRC or through the ticket system |
| 00:52.05 | KriLL3 | why does it scan your folders? that takes ages |
| 00:52.25 | KriLL3 | and before it does anything productive it throws a load of errors and dies |
| 00:52.54 | KriLL3 | stuff like cannot create <random folder> inside your appsdata folder |
| 00:53.33 | ckknight | I don't really have any say over the development of that product, but Kolie's a good guy and listens to the populace |
| 00:53.43 | KriLL3 | I understand that WAU isn't economically viable, but please base the code of the next thing on it, or something similar, the curse one just seems fail |
| 00:54.01 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 00:54.36 | KriLL3 | is cart3 LK compatible btw? |
| 00:55.07 | ckknight | yep |
| 00:55.14 | ckknight | well, Scarlet Enclave might have issues since most recent patch |
| 00:55.25 | ckknight | also, send me your SVs if you've explored northrend |
| 00:55.50 | KriLL3 | SVs? |
| 00:56.10 | ckknight | your Cartographer3.lua saved variable file |
| 00:56.15 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 00:56.25 | KriLL3 | I just installed it, haven't run it yet :) |
| 00:56.32 | ckknight | okay then |
| 00:56.37 | ckknight | have you explored northrend? |
| 00:57.12 | KriLL3 | I'm hitting the sack now, hope I can fall asleep, I'm on a big caffeine buzz... :( stupid milkshake like drink had real coffee in it it seems :| |
| 00:57.14 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 00:57.22 | KriLL3 | but without any map mod installed |
| 00:57.27 | ckknight | no biggie |
| 00:57.34 | ckknight | just load up cart3 and mouse over the zones |
| 00:57.52 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 00:57.59 | KriLL3 | tomorrow :> |
| 00:58.12 | KriLL3 | you don't have the beta? |
| 00:59.14 | ckknight | I do, I just don't have a 70 |
| 00:59.17 | ckknight | so I can't explore |
| 00:59.38 | KriLL3 | you don't have a level 70 character? |
| 00:59.48 | ckknight | my highest is a lvl 60 draenei pally |
| 00:59.53 | KriLL3 | O_o |
| 00:59.57 | ckknight | which I actually played today |
| 00:59.59 | ckknight | haven't played in a while |
| 01:00.09 | KriLL3 | heh |
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| 01:01.18 | KriLL3 | could have used your LK key on an account of a buddy, if he changes his password you could use the old password to login to "his" beta account and copy a level 70 char of his |
| 01:01.55 | Dashkal | ckknight: Get yout 60 to Menethis and take the boat. If only to see that approach it'll be worth your time |
| 01:02.02 | Dashkal | Menethil* |
| 01:02.06 | ckknight | no thanks |
| 01:02.27 | sacarasc | you could have given the key to me and i'd have searched it all out for you! :D |
| 01:03.17 | gaellalire | does somebody have both wotlk access and high level shaman ? [and time to do a test ^^] |
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| 01:03.42 | KriLL3 | define high |
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| 01:05.10 | gaellalire | I understand that the addon does not add totem (only suppress 2), so 70 is perfect |
| 01:05.18 | gaellalire | 60 is good |
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| 01:05.36 | KriLL3 | I got a 32 :) |
| 01:05.51 | KriLL3 | highest I managed before I ran back to my druid |
| 01:06.36 | gaellalire | I have a druid too, but he still 60 |
| 01:06.49 | KriLL3 | 74 here |
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| 01:25.42 | PProvost | Hey ckknight with LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 can I prevent the right click from popping up the Rock menu? I looked briefly but didn't see an override. |
| 01:26.02 | ckknight | yea, you can specify what kind of menu pops up |
| 01:26.18 | PProvost | Can I have it call my own callback? |
| 01:26.45 | PProvost | Wait... never mind. It will be fine. |
| 01:27.04 | PProvost | I'll play with it some more. |
| 01:28.03 | ckknight | k |
| 01:31.15 | JerleMinara | anyone who plays a shammie.. is there a totem timing addon that just gives me timers for my totems and not a bunch of buttons and shit? :P |
| 01:34.07 | fewyn | sigh |
| 01:34.23 | fewyn | the local tv station has a horrible connection to the dolphins game |
| 01:34.29 | fewyn | so it keeps cutting out |
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| 01:44.53 | CIA-45 | controlfreak: 03Tekkub 07master * r0efc852 10/ ControlFreak.toc : Updating TOC to 30000 |
| 01:54.39 | ulic | what's the website that has the wow ui diffs again? |
| 01:55.13 | selckin | wowcompare something, googleit |
| 01:55.19 | Hjalte | wowcompares.com |
| 01:55.42 | CIA-45 | ampere: 03Tekkub 07master * rf866ba9 10/ changelog.txt : Update changelog for 3.0.1.10-Beta |
| 01:55.44 | ulic | awesome, thanks both of you. |
| 01:56.11 | CIA-45 | ampere: 03Tekkub 07master * re782127 10/ (Ampere.toc README.textile): Weekly build 3.0.1.10-Beta |
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| 01:58.39 | CIA-45 | 037destiny 07wotlk * r80565 10LittleWigs/LittleWigs_WotLK/Utgarde_Keep/ (Ingvar.lua Keleseth.lua): |
| 01:58.39 | CIA-45 | LittleWigs: Utgarde_Keep: |
| 01:58.39 | CIA-45 | - fix boss guid |
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| 02:00.41 | ulic | oh yea guid's whoops |
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| 02:24.55 | CIA-45 | 037destiny 07wotlk * r80566 10LittleWigs/LittleWigs_WotLK/Nexus/ (Anomalus.lua Keristrasza.lua Ormorok.lua Telestra.lua): |
| 02:24.55 | CIA-45 | LittleWigs: Nexus: |
| 02:24.55 | CIA-45 | - add guid |
| 02:24.55 | CIA-45 | - Ormorok: add Spell Reflection |
| 02:24.55 | CIA-45 | - Telestra: change split - add split trigger |
| 02:24.56 | CIA-45 | - koKR Update |
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| 02:33.05 | CIA-45 | 037destiny 077destiny * r80567 10LittleWigs/: trash.. |
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| 02:44.31 | CIA-45 | 037destiny 07wotlk * r80568 10LittleWigs/LittleWigs_WotLK/Nexus/Ormorok.lua: |
| 02:44.31 | CIA-45 | LittleWigs: Nexus/Ormorok: |
| 02:44.32 | CIA-45 | - fix Spikes |
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| 03:20.25 | hypetech | anybody know what mod is messing with my inspect pane? It just says "Head" instead of item, and shows talent trees for other classes, very random. It's been doing it for a while, but I just figured I'd try to find out what it is |
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| 03:48.43 | Aiiane | hmm... suggestion on a timer bars library? |
| 03:50.47 | ulic | LibBars |
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| 03:54.16 | Hjalte | hypetech: I'm not using any inspect addon, and I'm a retribution druid. |
| 03:54.22 | CIA-45 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80569 10Prat/ (10 files in 4 dirs): |
| 03:54.22 | CIA-45 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 03:54.23 | CIA-45 | Converted the ChatLink module. Various fixes to other modules. |
| 03:55.39 | vithos_ | hypetech, do you use CowTip? |
| 03:59.37 | fewyn | sigh, why do java apps hate opening with wow open? |
| 04:00.27 | selckin | you're gonna make me reboot to windows to test that theory aren't you |
| 04:00.58 | fewyn | yes |
| 04:01.36 | selckin | what kinda java apps are you starting |
| 04:01.51 | fewyn | WWS! |
| 04:02.11 | selckin | trivial ones |
| 04:03.45 | Hjalte | He's right. My homebanking java app also takes ages with wow open. |
| 04:07.05 | Arrowmaster | because its java! |
| 04:08.42 | fewyn | java sux |
| 04:08.43 | Hjalte | It doesnt take ages with wow closed ^^ |
| 04:10.59 | vithos_ | maybe WoW is taking up all of your physical memory and it doesn't play nice when swapped to disk |
| 04:12.29 | Ellipsis | Hjalte: don't lie, you're no ret druid...you're totally an enhancement warlock :> |
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| 04:13.35 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: I like my druid. He can heal! But I love my warlock. I'd play him some more on the beta server if it would stop crashing all the time. |
| 04:14.01 | Ellipsis | US has stopped, you should come play there with me ;D |
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| 04:15.03 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: It's too bad I speak a funny language and live in europe :) |
| 04:15.11 | Ellipsis | no you don't |
| 04:15.20 | Ellipsis | unless you speak french, the french are just funny all around |
| 04:15.23 | fdg | hi ppl |
| 04:16.02 | _3dmax | a'm need help |
| 04:16.11 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: Oh yeah I do. Not even ckknight understands me, and he knows german! |
| 04:16.23 | Ellipsis | german isn't funny, it's just icky |
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| 04:16.39 | ckknight | Guten tag? |
| 04:16.48 | ckknight | Englisch ist besser |
| 04:17.02 | Ellipsis | ...and thus, the extent of ckknight's german knowledge ;P |
| 04:17.16 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: Back in school, that's what I was trying to tell my german teachers too. |
| 04:17.23 | ckknight | Donde es el baño? |
| 04:19.05 | _3dmax | prompt analogue addon's RatingBuster |
| 04:19.21 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: I live in Denmark. Which is just above Germany. |
| 04:19.39 | Ellipsis | um...grats on being special? :P |
| 04:21.29 | Hjalte | Wohoo! I'm special! |
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| 04:22.46 | Ellipsis | yes, very ;) |
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| 04:24.59 | Hjalte | Fisker- is special too. But that's not just because he's danish. |
| 04:25.13 | Ellipsis | neither is yours, sorry to say ;P |
| 04:26.58 | Hjalte | It feels like you're always here Ellipsis. Do you never sleep? |
| 04:27.02 | Stanzilla | ckknight riecht gut! :p |
| 04:27.12 | Ellipsis | Hjalte: sleep is for the weak |
| 04:27.22 | ckknight | was ist 'riechen'? |
| 04:27.45 | Stanzilla | to smell |
| 04:27.57 | ckknight | hehe |
| 04:28.09 | Ellipsis | Stanzilla lies |
| 04:28.13 | Ellipsis | ;D |
| 04:28.15 | Stanzilla | orly? |
| 04:28.17 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: Indeed. And for the tired! |
| 04:28.24 | CIA-45 | 03ulic 07wotlk * r80570 10LittleWigs/LittleWigs_WotLK/Nexus/ (Ormorok.lua Telestra.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 04:28.24 | CIA-45 | LittleWigs: |
| 04:28.24 | CIA-45 | Nexus/Telestra: Separate messages for warning before the split and on the split |
| 04:28.24 | CIA-45 | Nexus/Ormorok: |
| 04:28.24 | CIA-45 | - Renamed variables spell -> reflection |
| 04:28.25 | CIA-45 | - Made Reflection bar an option |
| 04:28.25 | Vonhinten | What's a good enh shammy gear list, for new 70's? |
| 04:28.27 | CIA-45 | - Fixed Reflection timer to correct length |
| 04:28.33 | Stanzilla | 7msg Ellipsis shhhh! |
| 04:28.35 | Stanzilla | oops! |
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| 04:31.35 | Zyndrome | shakes uncontrollably |
| 04:32.11 | Ellipsis | pokes Zyndrome with a stick |
| 04:32.35 | Zyndrome | folds in on himself and creates a wormhole in space and time |
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| 04:50.26 | Zhinjio | licks Ellipsis |
| 04:50.43 | Zyndrome | it's 06:45 this Sunday morning and some tard relative to my stepfather calls almost every day at this time |
| 04:51.00 | Zyndrome | I wonder if it has ever occured to them that there is people living in this house... |
| 04:52.14 | CIA-45 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80571 10Prat/modules/ (ChatLink.lua Substitutions.lua): |
| 04:52.14 | CIA-45 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 04:52.14 | CIA-45 | Fixes to chatlink, made the substitutions tooltip display current values for |
| 04:52.14 | CIA-45 | the substitutions. |
| 04:52.29 | chexsum | hes your friend till the end |
| 04:52.51 | Tinyboom | pick up the phone, scream your lungs out and hang up, should give you some peace :p |
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| 04:54.14 | chexsum | or say "<location> Police Department, Sergeant Chuck Speaking, can I have your name" |
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| 04:54.57 | Hjalte | Zyndrome: Yeah, I think that's why he calls you. |
| 04:55.02 | Sole | hi guys |
| 04:55.11 | Sole | been a while :) |
| 04:55.12 | chexsum | make him think twice about pressing that button! |
| 04:55.32 | Zyndrome | or answer in a psychopatic way ... "I'm going to lick the ground you walk on and piss on your children... I LIKE TO ROLL IN MUD, MMMMM" |
| 04:56.16 | Zyndrome | chexsum , I don't think that'll work though as I believe they are somewhat senile |
| 04:56.34 | chexsum | "welcome to the Transvestite Sex Service, do you mind holding?" |
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| 04:57.26 | chexsum | <-- drunk so have a lot of answers |
| 04:57.37 | chexsum | s/have/has |
| 04:57.38 | Sole | hmm |
| 04:57.59 | Sole | I havent seen this yet; is it possible to navigate dropdown menus using the up/down arrow keys? |
| 04:58.01 | Zyndrome | my stepfathers mother used to call so often, we were almost about to charge her for telephone terrorism or something :P |
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| 05:22.17 | Zhinjio | you know whats missing |
| 05:22.22 | Zhinjio | a true gear comparison plugin |
| 05:22.30 | Zhinjio | not just rating busters |
| 05:22.41 | Zhinjio | but something that lets you speculate on a piece of gear, including gems + chants |
| 05:22.48 | Zhinjio | or does that exist and I just don't know it |
| 05:23.48 | Xinhuan | http://files.wowace.com/WoWEquip |
| 05:24.21 | Xinhuan | and http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WoWEquip |
| 05:24.50 | Zhinjio | you're such a stud |
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| 05:25.18 | Sole | that he is |
| 05:31.15 | Zhinjio | perfect |
| 05:31.17 | Zhinjio | thank you |
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| 05:38.38 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: is there some key or something that will force a slot back to the currently equipped gear? |
| 05:38.49 | Xinhuan | dressing room it |
| 05:38.51 | Xinhuan | ctrl-click |
| 05:38.52 | Zhinjio | or should I just make a profile with that.... ok |
| 05:39.18 | Xinhuan | and resetting gear = copy yourself as your target |
| 05:40.01 | Zhinjio | seriously, this rocks. Thank you. |
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| 05:53.41 | CIA-45 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80572 10Prat/ (addon/options.lua modules/CustomFilters.lua): |
| 05:53.41 | CIA-45 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 05:53.41 | CIA-45 | Fixed a bug in customfilters remove pattern option, and in the reload ui |
| 05:53.42 | CIA-45 | warning link, |
| 06:09.01 | CIA-45 | 037destiny 07wotlk * r80573 10LittleWigs/LittleWigs_WotLK/Nexus/ (Ormorok.lua Telestra.lua): |
| 06:09.01 | CIA-45 | LittleWigs: Nexus: |
| 06:09.01 | CIA-45 | - koKR Update |
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| 06:22.44 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: can you apply raid buffs or similar type of stuff? |
| 06:23.29 | Zhinjio | similar to the way you have talents in there currently |
| 06:23.38 | Zhinjio | maybe a button that lets you configure what raid buffs to apply |
| 06:23.41 | Zhinjio | whatever, you get the idea |
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| 06:28.17 | Zhinjio | how about the effects of haste on weapon speed, like... list weapon speed in the with stats and show how haste has modified it |
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| 06:53.33 | Xinhuan | not very keen on updating the addon Zhinjio |
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| 06:59.15 | Zhinjio | bah!@ |
| 06:59.19 | Zhinjio | oh well. |
| 06:59.29 | Zhinjio | just thought of another thing too. oh well. |
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| 07:15.22 | Xinhuan | not planning on updating an addon that is definitely breaking on wotlk ;p |
| 07:15.34 | Xinhuan | major stats changes there |
| 07:16.03 | Zhinjio | true |
| 07:16.16 | Xinhuan | even then its only the backend lib that needs to be updated |
| 07:16.24 | Xinhuan | i likely need to do nothing at all |
| 07:16.27 | Zhinjio | this is my new favorite addon. |
| 07:16.33 | Zhinjio | so you know. |
| 07:16.43 | Zhinjio | not that my opinion matters much |
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| 07:17.32 | Zhinjio | the last thing we (was talking this over with a hunter min/maxer friend of mine) ... was to be ablet o right click a trinket or item, and have its "equip" or "use" bonuses be added into the numbers calc |
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| 07:19.39 | [Endeavour] | is there a wotlk compatible castingbar around? |
| 07:20.09 | Zhinjio | http://www.wowwiki.com/Wotlk_Addon_Status |
| 07:20.16 | [Endeavour] | thanks :) |
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| 07:28.53 | CIA-45 | 03mikk * r80574 10Skillet/ (SkilletQueue.lua SkilletStitch-1.1.lua): |
| 07:28.53 | CIA-45 | Skillet: |
| 07:28.53 | CIA-45 | - Only scan current trade for craftable dependencies. It was trying to add items from other trades to the current one! (No, I really don't need to make 22 boomsticks to get some fel iron bars made from my ores, really..) |
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| 07:40.29 | CIA-45 | 037destiny * r80575 10Mendeleev/locales/koKR.lua: |
| 07:40.29 | CIA-45 | Mendeleev: |
| 07:40.29 | CIA-45 | - koKR Update |
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| 08:11.40 | orionshock | ok, im not an RP'er but this shat intro quest is creepy as a DK... |
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| 08:13.49 | Lyn_ | the most greetings are creepy as a DK |
| 08:13.57 | Lyn_ | for instance: you go into cathedral of light in stormwind |
| 08:14.02 | Lyn_ | "HELLO MY FRIEND DEATH KNIGHT!" |
| 08:14.04 | Lyn_ | wuah |
| 08:14.18 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 08:14.25 | DARKGuy | STAY A WHILE AND LISTEN- oh wait, wrong game. |
| 08:14.36 | orionshock | it should be liek " Hi there.... can i help you w/o you killing me?" |
| 08:15.16 | DARKGuy | lol @ quote |
| 08:15.16 | Lyn_ | or just "Hello.. oh, no, no hello for you asshole" |
| 08:15.18 | Lyn_ | :D |
| 08:15.54 | DARKGuy | <fogobogo> DARKGuy: maybe theres some strange buffer that needs fixing? |
| 08:15.54 | DARKGuy | <copper>you're the buffer |
| 08:15.54 | DARKGuy | * fogobogo buffs copper |
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| 08:22.16 | Russel-Athletic | hiho |
| 08:22.33 | Russel-Athletic | i want to use ace2, so is there somewhere a public readonly svn of it? |
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| 08:23.06 | Hjalte | Download it in a zip from files.wowace.com or use svn.wowace.com. |
| 08:23.55 | Russel-Athletic | ok i didn't find the svn.wowace.com address anywhere on the homepage |
| 08:24.40 | Hjalte | Why do you want to use ace2 by the way? There are newer libraries such as ace3 available. |
| 08:25.18 | Russel-Athletic | the homepage states: still in development |
| 08:25.53 | Hjalte | I'm pretty sure it's ready for use. |
| 08:26.01 | Hjalte | I'm not a developer though. |
| 08:26.16 | Russel-Athletic | do you use it at the moment for your addons? |
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| 08:26.46 | Hjalte | You can't write addons with php, so no. But I probably would. |
| 08:27.06 | Sole | use ace3, imo its easier to learn |
| 08:27.30 | Russel-Athletic | ok any points to documentation for it? |
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| 08:28.07 | Sole | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace3_Addon |
| 08:28.10 | Sole | should do you right |
| 08:28.32 | Russel-Athletic | thanks |
| 08:28.50 | Malev | Whats the diffrens betwin Ace2 and Ace3? |
| 08:29.19 | Russel-Athletic | by the way: wow loads only what is in toc (doesn't matter what is in the folder) right? |
| 08:29.31 | Malev | yes |
| 08:29.50 | CIA-45 | 03oridan * r80576 10SpellReminder/core.lua: |
| 08:29.50 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
| 08:29.50 | CIA-45 | - First WotLK patch |
| 08:29.50 | CIA-45 | - No longer scan tooltip for every cast (option to "scan next cast" coming later) |
| 08:29.50 | CIA-45 | - Hacky filtering of other players buffs since bliz "fixed" UnitBuff("player") |
| 08:30.15 | Sole | Russel-Athletic: yes, except bindings.xml are loaded without being in the toc |
| 08:30.22 | Malev | yes |
| 08:30.24 | Sole | Malev: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace3 documents the differences |
| 08:30.31 | Malev | Good thanks |
| 08:31.10 | Russel-Athletic | thanks |
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| 08:47.18 | gaellalire | Hi, is there a library to make crescent timer (like in http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1764&d=1214064050) ? |
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| 08:55.25 | Malev | Not what i know but i havn´t used liberys for long. |
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| 09:20.18 | CIA-45 | 03andyca * r80577 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/localization.lua: |
| 09:20.18 | CIA-45 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 09:20.18 | CIA-45 | - added zhTW localization |
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| 09:51.28 | nevcairiel | Whats a good xp/reputation bar addon? |
| 09:52.06 | Malev | I use the bultin in SpartanUI |
| 09:52.54 | nevcairiel | I really like the design of FuXPFu, but Xparky was never finished by Wobin, and i want to get rid of FuBar |
| 09:53.23 | Lyn_ | xpbarnone? |
| 09:54.19 | Malev | I am working on an UI but i can release the XP-Rep bar self if they are intrest. |
| 09:55.41 | orionshock | i play with the default one atm :\ |
| 09:56.00 | Nargiddley | I use Xparky, whats missing from it ? |
| 09:56.07 | nevcairiel | it doesnt even work for me |
| 09:56.11 | nevcairiel | i get alot of errors during load |
| 09:56.26 | nevcairiel | one even was a syntax error |
| 09:56.40 | nevcairiel | or do you use some version thats not the one on svn? =P |
| 09:56.48 | Malev | lol |
| 09:57.17 | Malev | Havn't seen Xparky yet... |
| 09:57.36 | |Jelly| | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8259-Xparky.html <-- |
| 09:57.47 | Nargiddley | the svn one is broken, the wowi is basically a tag before th current set of changes |
| 09:57.52 | |Jelly| | Use that. I've never gotten a functional version from the Ace SVN. |
| 09:58.12 | nevcairiel | wonder why he broke it on svn |
| 09:58.47 | nevcairiel | I should poke him about it when i see him again |
| 09:58.57 | nevcairiel | revert svn version to that, and maybe fix stuff if i find it |
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| 10:02.19 | nevcairiel | ah works fine =) |
| 10:07.31 | nevcairiel | ~seen Wobin |
| 10:07.33 | purl | wobin <n=Wobin@124-171-26-120.dyn.iinet.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 22h 1m 28s ago, saying: 'Cause that's clearly a tauren name'. |
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| 10:12.12 | Sole | bleh I cant get this damn OnKeyUp handler to work |
| 10:12.41 | Malev | onKeyUp protected? |
| 10:13.08 | Sole | no, its just a frame handler |
| 10:13.41 | Sole | but I cant get the key pressed |
| 10:14.17 | Malev | okey havnt used it. |
| 10:14.27 | nevcairiel | You cant get your finger to press a key? Ouch! |
| 10:14.59 | Sole | nice one, mock my retarded fingers :( |
| 10:15.30 | Sole | self.frame.button1:SetScript("OnKeyUp", function(arg1) self:OnKeyUp(arg1) end) then the onkeyup function simply does self:Print(arg1) |
| 10:15.45 | Sole | self.frame.button1:SetScript("OnKeyUp", function(arg1) self:Print(arg1) end) |
| 10:15.47 | Sole | there |
| 10:15.48 | nevcairiel | I know whats wrong |
| 10:16.03 | nevcairiel | first arg is "self" |
| 10:16.07 | nevcairiel | after that the key |
| 10:16.21 | nevcairiel | self.frame.button1:SetScript("OnKeyUp", function(frame, arg1) self:Print(arg1) end) |
| 10:16.22 | nevcairiel | try that |
| 10:16.27 | Malev | sorry can se the code cuz it generate smiliys |
| 10:16.41 | charon | IRC client fail? |
| 10:17.01 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 10:17.27 | Sole | nev: e-hug |
| 10:17.49 | nevcairiel | didnt you notice that it kinda wants to print a table? |
| 10:17.51 | Malev | :) |
| 10:17.56 | Malev | now it works i think |
| 10:18.06 | Sole | my lack of coding anything besides web based crap for the last couple months had an effect |
| 10:18.12 | Sole | yeah it was printing out a table |
| 10:18.23 | Sole | but I forgot bout using self inside a handler |
| 10:20.39 | Malev | Someone know how to do an function when rollover or target a target? |
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| 10:21.42 | Sole | explain moar please |
| 10:21.44 | cladhaire | Trell_: Fixed the code, should work now |
| 10:21.51 | cladhaire | Trell_: just commited and I'm pushing now. |
| 10:22.00 | cladhaire | Trell_: and added the debug log pane in the options screen. |
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| 10:22.31 | Gngsk | Malev, get devtools and use the event frame too see which events fire when you mouseover/select. then have your addon register those events and execute code when they're fired. |
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| 10:23.08 | Malev | okey |
| 10:23.37 | Malev | Sole I working on a Database Addon and i want to save info of it when rollover it |
| 10:23.48 | Malev | of the mobs* |
| 10:24.07 | Sole | oh thats probably the tooltip events |
| 10:24.19 | Sole | devtools is your friend there |
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| 10:40.47 | CIA-45 | 03phanx * r80578 10GridStatusHealingReduced/Notice.lua: |
| 10:40.47 | CIA-45 | GridStatusHealingReduced: |
| 10:40.47 | CIA-45 | - Fix URL in moving notice |
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| 10:42.53 | digmouse | uh what's the API that get's the unit's faction info? like |
| 10:42.59 | digmouse | "The Scyers" |
| 10:44.17 | Maldivia | think tooltipscanning is the only way to get that info - but not sure |
| 10:44.56 | digmouse | I think so too |
| 10:44.59 | vithos | http://www.wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetFactionInfo |
| 10:45.23 | vithos | or do you mean for like, your target |
| 10:45.25 | Maldivia | vithos: that's the players faction into |
| 10:45.30 | vithos | ah |
| 10:45.35 | digmouse | vithos: no this is used to get from the faction list |
| 10:45.47 | digmouse | I mean like get the faction name of my mouseover |
| 10:46.11 | digmouse | *getting |
| 10:46.14 | vithos | http://www.wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitFactionGroup ? |
| 10:46.28 | digmouse | no, that's only for Alliance or Horde |
| 10:46.39 | digmouse | I've scanned the hole API listing |
| 10:46.57 | digmouse | it returns nil for other units |
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| 11:34.03 | Hjalte | [Ammo]: You removed "More work?" from Smooth Quest? |
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| 11:38.13 | Hjalte | [Ammo]: Smooth Quest hurts my ears when logging in. It plays both More work and Jobs done, but in a very broken way. |
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| 11:47.00 | Matrix110 | uhm |
| 11:47.05 | Matrix110 | is WoWhead fucked up atm? |
| 11:47.13 | Matrix110 | I even tried another Browser |
| 11:47.24 | Xinhuan | its fine |
| 11:47.28 | renchap | seems css are missing |
| 11:47.39 | Matrix110 | renchap thats what I mean :P |
| 11:50.26 | Matrix110 | http://i37.tinypic.com/dp73bd.png |
| 11:50.37 | Matrix110 | looks like this for me in FF/Opera/IE |
| 11:50.58 | ckknight | wowdb ftw? |
| 11:52.03 | Lyn_ | anyone did the quest "Reading the Meters" in Coldarra? |
| 11:52.15 | Matrix110 | I somehow like WoWHead more tbh ckknight :P |
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| 11:52.36 | Hjalte | Comments are god. |
| 11:52.48 | ckknight | I find that wowdb has better data, but wowhead has more comments, which is nice |
| 11:52.51 | Lyn_ | ah found it :o |
| 11:52.55 | Matrix110 | Well I dont really need comments normally for what Iam looking for :P |
| 11:53.06 | Matrix110 | but for questing yes comments are awesome |
| 11:54.12 | Russel-Athletic | perhaps a stupid question, but what is the function in grid that does the same as the enable checkbox in the config? |
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| 12:02.58 | Daviesh | Hey guys, has anyone had trouble with a LibFubarPlugin-3.0 minimap button not remembering it's position |
| 12:03.15 | Daviesh | I try and drag it around, but next reload, it's back in the default position |
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| 12:09.10 | Funkeh` | yar |
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| 12:21.20 | Fisker- | NeoTron my friend |
| 12:22.11 | Fisker- | Chompers my enemy |
| 12:24.21 | Funkeh` | mkay |
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| 12:27.36 | vrak | is PeriodicTable3.0 an old variant of LibPeriodicTable3.1? |
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| 12:29.31 | Funkeh` | vrak, it's the old ace2 version |
| 12:29.42 | Funkeh` | 3.1is the libstub version |
| 12:30.32 | vrak | Funkeh`: so the old ace2 thing should be pretty safe to remove, then? |
| 12:30.50 | Russel-Athletic | ok than how can i send a custom / command like i would typing it myself? |
| 12:30.55 | Funkeh` | depends if any addon uses it |
| 12:31.02 | Funkeh` | remove it and see |
| 12:34.44 | cladhaire | Antiarc: Hey, could I steal the copy popup window from Chatter? |
| 12:34.59 | Trell_ | cladhaire: just updated and logging in to try dtk |
| 12:35.12 | cladhaire | Trell_: there are _some_ isue with it Hjalte and I are trying to work out. |
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| 12:35.23 | Hjalte | Trell_: What class are you playing? |
| 12:35.26 | Trell_ | Rogue |
| 12:35.34 | Trell_ | although I can test on my lock and/or shaman too |
| 12:36.03 | cladhaire | so the weapon base score is what you have when you have no weapons equipped. |
| 12:36.06 | Hjalte | cladhaire: I believe Antiarc did most of the work on Chatter. |
| 12:36.08 | cladhaire | then we equip a mainhand weapon |
| 12:36.21 | cladhaire | Hjalte: that's why I just asked him :P |
| 12:36.36 | Hjalte | cladhaire: Oh yeah... I'll just go back to my corner now. |
| 12:36.41 | cladhaire | lol |
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| 12:38.02 | Russel-Athletic | anybody an idea how i can suspend and resume grid from within lua? |
| 12:38.27 | cladhaire | Hjalte: did you buff yourself during this time at all? |
| 12:38.28 | cladhaire | or did someone else? |
| 12:38.38 | Hjalte | cladhaire: No, I was on a flight. |
| 12:38.43 | cladhaire | ok |
| 12:38.53 | Hjalte | A buff could have run off that I didnt notice though, I use thorns and Mark of the Wild |
| 12:39.23 | cladhaire | mark is still up |
| 12:39.25 | cladhaire | with 3 minutes left |
| 12:39.28 | cladhaire | so i dont think thats it. |
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| 12:39.39 | Trell_ | err cladhaire |
| 12:39.49 | Trell_ | where does it announce what items it's chosen now? |
| 12:39.58 | Trell_ | never mind I see it |
| 12:40.13 | buu | Does anyone know of an addon named 'whisp' and, more importantly, where I could find it? |
| 12:40.57 | Hjalte | buu: files.wowace.com too obvious? :P |
| 12:41.24 | Trell_ | mmm it seems to have worked fine |
| 12:41.27 | cladhaire | Hjalte: you using the svn version, or wowinterface? |
| 12:41.30 | Trell_ | its chosen the best OH |
| 12:41.36 | Hjalte | cladhaire: wowinterface |
| 12:41.48 | cladhaire | Hjalte: svn co svn://svn.wowinterface.com/DressToKill-201/trunk DressToKill |
| 12:41.54 | cladhaire | so i can have you test things as I commit them |
| 12:41.57 | cladhaire | since you'r ethe one having the issue. |
| 12:42.28 | buu | Hjalte: Apparently, yes. |
| 12:42.29 | Hjalte | I'll have to get tortoise then |
| 12:42.50 | cladhaire | just download the svn binaries, imo |
| 12:43.12 | Hjalte | cladhaire: How? :) |
| 12:43.13 | Trell_ | cladhaire: does dtk take into account enchants/gems? |
| 12:43.17 | Trell_ | gems im guessing it does for sure |
| 12:43.20 | cladhaire | Trell_: of course |
| 12:43.23 | cladhaire | it uses effective stats |
| 12:43.51 | Hjalte | cladhaire: Ah, I can acces with http:// and see the file list. |
| 12:44.04 | cladhaire | Hjalte: http://subversion.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=91 then you can use svn on the commandline |
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| 12:45.50 | Trell_ | I've tried it with a combindation of weapons in my bag (hid the rest in my bank) and I've hit no problems yet, running on the setups I posted on your comments page, cladhaire |
| 12:45.54 | KriLL3 | are there any glyphs in the beta yet? |
| 12:46.04 | cladhaire | Trell_: okay, I'll try to work out Hjalte's issue |
| 12:46.09 | cladhaire | since its definitely a problem |
| 12:46.13 | cladhaire | it just may not be hitting you |
| 12:46.21 | Hjalte | I guess it could be a problem with the items in my bag, eg. healing items |
| 12:47.07 | Trell_ | what was the problem you were having? |
| 12:47.29 | cladhaire | Hjalte: no, it shouldn't be |
| 12:47.34 | cladhaire | I have to go back through the math again |
| 12:47.41 | cladhaire | to make sure the weapon scores are being calculated correctly |
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| 12:48.03 | Hjalte | cladhaire: I've updated, can I just reload the ui? |
| 12:48.09 | cladhaire | no i haven't commited |
| 12:48.12 | cladhaire | give me a few minutes |
| 12:48.27 | Hjalte | Oh, it said revision 13, I've been using 12. |
| 12:48.33 | cladhaire | well that's AN update |
| 12:48.35 | cladhaire | but not everything |
| 12:48.42 | cladhaire | that fixes one issue I ran into that you didn't. |
| 12:48.58 | Hjalte | I'll wait for THE update then. |
| 12:49.14 | Hjalte | :) |
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| 12:50.12 | vithos | !rating 1800 |
| 12:50.13 | Xinhuan | 1800 rating gives 760(5s), 669(3s) and 578(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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| 12:55.12 | Funkeh` | !rating 2156 |
| 12:55.12 | Xinhuan | 2156 rating gives 1231(5s), 1083(3s) and 935(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 12:56.35 | CIA-45 | 03arkayenro * r80579 10ArkInventory/ (ArkInventory.lua Locale/ruRU.lua VersionHistory.txt): |
| 12:56.35 | CIA-45 | ArkInventory: |
| 12:56.35 | CIA-45 | - 2.27.09 |
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| 12:59.09 | cladhaire | Hjalte: r14 has been commited. |
| 12:59.35 | Hjalte | cladhaire: Can I just reload the ui? |
| 12:59.35 | cladhaire | Hjalte: with the copy log button, so test it and pastey the log for me |
| 12:59.38 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 13:00.38 | Hjalte | cladhaire: It chose the mining pick again. Still running. |
| 13:00.50 | cladhaire | i didn't hcange the scoring |
| 13:00.53 | cladhaire | i just changed the debug |
| 13:01.00 | cladhaire | i.e. i need mor einfo to fix it |
| 13:01.26 | Hjalte | cladhaire: I just got an error again. The same error that i first sent you it could look like |
| 13:01.42 | cladhaire | thats fine |
| 13:01.49 | cladhaire | please pastey the log for me |
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| 13:02.15 | Hjalte | cladhaire: http://ace.pastey.net/94014 |
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| 13:04.41 | cladhaire | Hjalte: which weight functino are you using again? |
| 13:05.03 | Hjalte | cladhaire: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/94009 |
| 13:05.12 | cladhaire | okay |
| 13:05.15 | cladhaire | can you unequip both weapons for me |
| 13:05.44 | Hjalte | Done. |
| 13:06.01 | cladhaire | and /dump GetCombatRating(6), then /dump UnitAttackPower("player") then /dump GetCritChance() |
| 13:06.09 | cladhaire | then equip the mining pick and do the same |
| 13:06.16 | cladhaire | those number are changing, we need to know which one |
| 13:06.21 | cladhaire | to make sure there's not something horribly wrong on my end of thing |
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| 13:06.46 | Hjalte | Sure. |
| 13:07.58 | cladhaire | Trell_: Hjalte: talk through this with me |
| 13:08.02 | cladhaire | first in unequip all of the weapons |
| 13:08.16 | cladhaire | and run the weightfunction on "White Linen Shirt" to get the base stats without weapons |
| 13:08.30 | cladhaire | then I equip mainhand weapons, and the score for those is the weightfunction minus the base I stores |
| 13:08.35 | Hjalte | cladhaire: My crit chance goes from 4.84 to 10.4 when equiping mining pick |
| 13:08.41 | cladhaire | Hjalte: lol? |
| 13:08.44 | cladhaire | Hjalte: wtf |
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| 13:08.53 | Hjalte | cladhaire: I have my gear on |
| 13:08.54 | cladhaire | that's not why its winning, but I feel better about myself now. |
| 13:08.57 | cladhaire | mace spacialization? |
| 13:09.03 | cladhaire | by any chance? |
| 13:09.11 | cladhaire | or whatever mining pick counts as |
| 13:09.53 | Hjalte | cladhaire: Want me to unequip all gear and try again? |
| 13:09.57 | cladhaire | nope |
| 13:09.59 | cladhaire | what race are you? |
| 13:10.12 | Hjalte | cladhaire: Night Elf Druid. |
| 13:10.19 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 13:10.20 | cladhaire | weird :P |
| 13:10.27 | Hjalte | cladhaire: I've got talents for crit, but they only apply to forms. |
| 13:10.40 | cladhaire | well obviously _something_ is raising your crit % |
| 13:10.45 | cladhaire | its the relative change we matter |
| 13:10.49 | cladhaire | thats why the rest of your eq doesn't matter |
| 13:11.05 | cladhaire | but it changes depending on if you have mining pick equipped or not.. how funny :P |
| 13:11.17 | orionshock | some of those tallents don't btw, |
| 13:12.07 | cladhaire | Hjalte: reload once more, and run the scan and pastey it |
| 13:12.13 | cladhaire | if you get an error, please get that for me as well so I can fix it. |
| 13:13.47 | Hjalte | Does it have something to do with the speed of the weapon? When I equip my feral staff with strength on it, which doesnt do anything to crit, my crit chance only goes up to 7 |
| 13:14.11 | cladhaire | I dont know how crit chance is calculated |
| 13:14.13 | cladhaire | but possibly, yes. |
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| 13:14.58 | Hjalte | cladhaire: First the error: http://ace.pastey.net/94015 and now the debug log: http://ace.pastey.net/94016 |
| 13:15.05 | cladhaire | thanks |
| 13:16.28 | cladhaire | Hjalte: I think its choosing the right thing based on your function |
| 13:16.46 | cladhaire | but I'm confused =/ |
| 13:16.52 | cladhaire | same deal |
| 13:16.55 | Hjalte | cladhaire: Well, the mining pick does increase my crit a lot, so yeah.... |
| 13:17.02 | cladhaire | but its only getting a rating of 3 |
| 13:17.04 | cladhaire | that's whts confusing me |
| 13:17.07 | cladhaire | do the following |
| 13:17.09 | Hjalte | cladhaire: Want me to try in cat form? |
| 13:17.12 | cladhaire | no |
| 13:17.22 | cladhaire | equip no weapons first |
| 13:17.26 | cladhaire | and run those /dumps again |
| 13:17.32 | cladhaire | and remember/write them down |
| 13:17.37 | cladhaire | then equip the mining pick, do it again |
| 13:17.41 | cladhaire | then equip the eye of paleth, do it again |
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| 13:18.50 | Hjalte | cladhaire: Both mining pick and eye or each separate? |
| 13:18.57 | cladhaire | each separate |
| 13:18.58 | cladhaire | three phases |
| 13:19.39 | Hjalte | cladhaire: No weapons and eye of paleth are the same |
| 13:19.52 | cladhaire | oh |
| 13:19.52 | cladhaire | sorry |
| 13:19.56 | cladhaire | i need three sets of numbers |
| 13:19.59 | cladhaire | no weapons |
| 13:20.02 | cladhaire | just mining pick |
| 13:20.05 | cladhaire | both mining pick and eye |
| 13:20.08 | cladhaire | my mistake :P |
| 13:20.14 | Hjalte | Okay :) |
| 13:21.29 | cladhaire | r16 commited, will need a log with that to figure out the error, since it'll put more info into the log. |
| 13:21.44 | CIA-45 | 03gagorian * r80581 10DrDamage/Melee.lua: |
| 13:21.44 | CIA-45 | DrDamage: |
| 13:21.44 | CIA-45 | - Fixed feral attacks needing a weapon. |
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| 13:22.18 | Hjalte | cladhaire: http://ace.pastey.net/94018 |
| 13:22.33 | Hjalte | I'll update |
| 13:22.42 | cladhaire | okay, something is odd now |
| 13:22.43 | cladhaire | OH |
| 13:22.50 | cladhaire | duuur |
| 13:23.40 | cladhaire | Hjalte: i know your issue |
| 13:23.44 | cladhaire | just gimme a sec to fix it |
| 13:23.50 | Hjalte | cladhaire: Wohoo. |
| 13:23.52 | cladhaire | the error, i need the new log for I thin |
| 13:24.30 | Hjalte | cladhaire: Want me to update then give you debug? |
| 13:24.36 | cladhaire | one sec |
| 13:24.39 | cladhaire | i'll fix this first |
| 13:24.41 | cladhaire | then you can try again |
| 13:25.22 | cladhaire | I think, at least I figured it out :P |
| 13:26.32 | cladhaire | r17 commited :P |
| 13:26.42 | Hjalte | Got r17 now |
| 13:28.09 | Hjalte | cladhaire: It tried on my feral staff then error'ed :) http://ace.pastey.net/94019 |
| 13:28.35 | cladhaire | I need to see the log |
| 13:28.42 | cladhaire | the coroutine makes it difficult to get proper errors |
| 13:29.20 | Hjalte | cladhaire: http://ace.pastey.net/94020 |
| 13:29.20 | cladhaire | one sec and i can make it easier |
| 13:29.23 | cladhaire | that error always bites me. |
| 13:29.47 | Fisker- | you're ruining my roleplaying experience |
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| 13:52.33 | Stanzilla | LFG UBRS, no Fisker-s pls |
| 13:52.47 | nevcairiel | ubrs? |
| 13:53.05 | Stanzilla | yes :P |
| 13:53.10 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 13:53.28 | nevcairiel | Wonder if i can solo UBRS at 80 |
| 13:53.36 | nevcairiel | I tried at 70, didnt work out yet =P |
| 13:53.50 | selckin | you're a caster? |
| 13:53.51 | Stanzilla | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=6821 < |
| 13:53.52 | nevcairiel | mm maybe with my t6 gear now, been a while |
| 13:54.54 | nevcairiel | I'm exalted with the hydraxians, so what now? |
| 13:55.38 | Stanzilla | meh, I'm not :P |
| 13:55.39 | selckin | solo raggy |
| 13:57.20 | nevcairiel | We're probably going to 5 man all old-world raid dungeons at 80 to get the achievements done (or maybe on 70 already with a few more people) |
| 13:58.02 | cladhaire | okay, logging for a bit |
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| 14:01.48 | Fisker- | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:03.12 | Fisker- | TRUST IN ME STANZILLA |
| 14:03.28 | Stanzilla | noo |
| 14:03.50 | Chompers | Fisker- |
| 14:03.57 | Chompers | recruit a friend is awesome |
| 14:04.08 | Chompers | i recruited myself, horay for x3 quest xp |
| 14:05.28 | Fisker- | Chompers |
| 14:05.30 | Fisker- | i hate you |
| 14:05.34 | Fisker- | ir. |
| 14:05.36 | Fisker- | irl |
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| 14:13.50 | CIA-45 | 03nemes * r80582 10BigWigs_BrutAssist/ (. BigWigs_BrutAssist.lua BigWigs_BrutAssist.toc): |
| 14:13.50 | CIA-45 | BigWigs_BrutAssist: |
| 14:13.50 | CIA-45 | - Brutallis range check frame, showing players within 9.9 yards when you have the Burn debuff |
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| 14:41.40 | Chosi | hrm |
| 14:41.56 | Chosi | i'd love to help the wowhead guys with their quests but well...site seems to be borked |
| 14:42.20 | Trell- | no css |
| 14:42.26 | Trell- | I've said in their channel |
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| 14:44.12 | Natherul | anyone have any idea what kind of addon im looking for when iwant an addon to show like a big transparent icon for an aura when i go into that aura as a paladin and tehn fade away? (seen it somewhere on youtube some time ago) |
| 14:44.46 | selckin | hmm |
| 14:45.09 | selckin | try Ghost: pulse |
| 14:46.27 | Trell- | ~seen elkano |
| 14:46.35 | purl | elkano <i=Elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 3d 1h 37m 40s ago, saying: 'ok, thanks :)'. |
| 14:48.15 | Natherul | thx selckin, im trying it out |
| 14:51.19 | Funkeh` | omnomnomnomnom |
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| 14:58.01 | wereHamster | why would MyAddon:UNIT_PET(...) get no arguments (eg. select("#", ...) == 0)? |
| 14:58.30 | nevcairiel | depends on how you registered it, i guess |
| 15:00.11 | wereHamster | nevcairiel: MyAddon:RegisterEvent() |
| 15:00.30 | nevcairiel | Ace2 or 3? |
| 15:01.21 | nevcairiel | Or is myAddon a frame? ;) |
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| 15:10.54 | wereHamster | nvm. He wasn't using Ace after all -.- |
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| 15:21.31 | Chosi | i need a working cart2 :\ |
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| 15:24.40 | CIA-45 | 03Mera_LaCroisadeEcarlate 07WotLK * r80583 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot: loc bugfixe |
| 15:32.46 | Fisker- | NeoTron |
| 15:32.47 | Fisker- | my friend |
| 15:32.49 | Fisker- | MY FRIEND |
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| 15:36.32 | Ellipsis | Fisker-, my love |
| 15:36.43 | Fisker- | Ellipsis my friend |
| 15:36.55 | Ellipsis | ...ouch |
| 15:37.04 | DARKGuy | ouch |
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| 15:56.10 | Fisker- | >:O |
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| 16:09.00 | Hjalte | Anyone using Smooth Quest around? |
| 16:09.11 | nevcairiel | I use it |
| 16:11.47 | Hjalte | nevcairiel: When you log in, does it then play the sound files it uses? (more work and jobs done) |
| 16:12.00 | nevcairiel | no |
| 16:12.18 | steev | okay, i can't seem to get this - is there any way with dogtags to show the target's name? |
| 16:12.22 | nevcairiel | It did some time ago randomly ,when i logged onto a char i havent been for a long time |
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| 16:12.30 | Malev | Have some one tryed Questhelper addon? |
| 16:12.51 | steev | not in a while |
| 16:13.02 | Hjalte | nevcairiel: I've got Smooth Quest, Ace 3 and Lib:Sink 2.0 loaded, and I have no clue why it does it. The sound is distorted and very loud. |
| 16:13.33 | KautionTape | Malev: I tried it. It's nice but I found it too buggy and too much of a resource hog |
| 16:13.36 | nevcairiel | Do you have some quest in your questlog thats currently "(Complete)" |
| 16:13.37 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 16:14.07 | Hjalte | nevcairiel: Yes, I do. And I see what you mean. |
| 16:14.27 | Malev | KautionTape: Okey |
| 16:14.45 | nevcairiel | Hjalte: still shouldnt happen, but maybe that quest is somehow causing issues |
| 16:14.46 | KautionTape | steev: It's the [Name] tag |
| 16:14.48 | Malev | Maby Rewrite it into Ace :):) |
| 16:15.17 | Ellipsis | quest events can be screwy like that sometimes |
| 16:15.43 | nevcairiel | Hjalte: turn it in already :) |
| 16:15.45 | steev | KautionTape: hm? |
| 16:16.57 | Hjalte | nevcairiel: Tour Guide is my god. And it wants me to wait :) |
| 16:17.46 | KautionTape | Rather, I believe it'd be Name#target to get the name of the target |
| 16:18.40 | KautionTape | Yeah, check here: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0#Unit_specification |
| 16:19.40 | Ellipsis | no |
| 16:19.45 | Ellipsis | the # operator doesn't exist anymore |
| 16:19.49 | steev | 3.0 is different |
| 16:19.54 | Ellipsis | use Name(unit=Target) for the unit's target |
| 16:19.55 | KautionTape | Mmm... 3.0 |
| 16:19.59 | steev | hrm |
| 16:20.05 | Ellipsis | or Name(unit="target") for YOUR target |
| 16:20.10 | KautionTape | yes, that would change things. ^_^ |
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| 16:20.33 | CIA-45 | 03Copystring * r80584 10YurrCombatLog/Core.lua: |
| 16:20.33 | CIA-45 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 16:20.33 | CIA-45 | - fix for docked ChatFrames |
| 16:20.43 | steev | perfect |
| 16:21.03 | steev | the first one was what i was looking for - its for cowtip |
| 16:21.37 | JerleMinara | Malev yes I use QH |
| 16:22.02 | Ellipsis | steev: if you need help with any of the tags there's a "dogtag help" button or you can type /dog to get the help frame |
| 16:22.22 | steev | Ellipsis: i was looking at the Target not Name |
| 16:22.29 | steev | silly me |
| 16:22.50 | Ellipsis | ah, yeah, Target used to return the name of the unit's taret...I can see why that might be confusing |
| 16:23.00 | Ellipsis | s/taret/target |
| 16:23.02 | steev | hrm |
| 16:23.16 | steev | although it doesn't seem to always work properly |
| 16:23.22 | Ellipsis | oh? |
| 16:23.52 | steev | when im mousing over an npc |
| 16:24.01 | steev | it is saying the npcs name |
| 16:24.04 | steev | but if i click on it |
| 16:24.19 | Ellipsis | hmm, paste your tag? |
| 16:24.53 | steev | its exactly what you typed |
| 16:25.13 | steev | [Nmae(unit="target")] |
| 16:25.15 | steev | oh wait |
| 16:25.19 | steev | that will report my target won't it |
| 16:25.22 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 16:25.36 | Ellipsis | you want [Name(unit=Target)] |
| 16:27.33 | Trell- | http://exposureroom.com/members/Trell.aspx/assets/2527908927574ffcb0fb47ca4736fe37/ <--- awesome quest in borean tundra (click HD button for full 1280x1024 qulaity) |
| 16:27.37 | Trell- | errr |
| 16:27.42 | Trell- | totally wc, sorry |
| 16:27.48 | Trell- | wrong network too >_< |
| 16:28.00 | Gnarfoz | :D |
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| 16:28.12 | Gnarfoz | I want to do some Drak'tharon runs :\ |
| 16:28.25 | Trell- | I'd join you but I'm still 71 |
| 16:28.37 | Gnarfoz | yeah :X |
| 16:28.52 | Gnarfoz | azjol-nerub is fun, too :D |
| 16:29.26 | Trell- | undoutbedly |
| 16:30.46 | Gnarfoz | need to get to 75 though. got the Troll Butcherer on my bugged run |
| 16:31.12 | Gnarfoz | ulic: so, does Transcriptor work on beta? ;D |
| 16:31.43 | Chompers | Fisker- |
| 16:31.54 | Chompers | recruit a friend is awesome 48-52 in about 2 hours |
| 16:32.16 | fewyn[sleeping] | someone go make me a sandwhich |
| 16:32.36 | fewyn | is hungry |
| 16:33.19 | steev | Ellipsis: thanks for the help, appreciate it |
| 16:33.38 | Ellipsis | sure thing, let me know if you have any more questions :) I'm a sucker for helping people |
| 16:36.56 | steev | is there a way to wrap it? |
| 16:37.03 | steev | basically |
| 16:37.20 | steev | my bottom line of my tooltip says Targeting: [Name=Target] |
| 16:37.27 | fewyn | >_> so, my hunter who just recently hit 70 (less than a month ago) did 1444 dps on Maiden last night... wtf? |
| 16:37.30 | steev | so if they aren't targetting anything, it just says Targeting: |
| 16:37.48 | Ellipsis | [Target?"Targeting: " Name(unit=Target)] |
| 16:37.49 | steev | i'd like it to not show up at all if it isn't (which it doesn't if i don't add that text string) |
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| 16:43.07 | steev | Ellipsis: that one still shows it even if empty |
| 16:43.17 | Ellipsis | er |
| 16:43.18 | steev | if i simply put Nmae(unit=Target)? |
| 16:43.23 | steev | er, Name |
| 16:43.24 | Ellipsis | should be Exists(Target) at the beginning |
| 16:43.26 | Ellipsis | fails |
| 16:44.07 | thul | http://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/353433570_cFkBj-XL.jpg <- what do you think Ellipsis ? |
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| 16:44.33 | Ellipsis | thul: a bit young for me, thanks |
| 16:45.02 | thul | :/ |
| 16:45.03 | thul | the PICTURE |
| 16:45.08 | thul | not the girl, you perverted american |
| 16:45.09 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 16:45.28 | Ellipsis | you need to be specific, we can't all be innocent norwegians |
| 16:45.41 | thul | well, I'm happy to be one :-P |
| 16:49.52 | Chompers | oh Ellipsis |
| 16:49.59 | Chompers | twisted twisted Ellipsis |
| 16:50.10 | Ellipsis | at your service! |
| 16:50.20 | Chompers | :D |
| 16:59.17 | thul | brings the bag of toys to usa to visit Ellipsis |
| 16:59.45 | Ellipsis | kinky |
| 17:00.07 | thul | always |
| 17:00.13 | thul | hmm, nevermind, im innocent |
| 17:00.16 | thul | forget that last part |
| 17:00.29 | Ellipsis | riiight ;) |
| 17:01.30 | fewyn | yay hurricane |
| 17:01.41 | fewyn | this is going to be an interesting week for me |
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| 17:40.20 | fewyn | http://michaelphelpsfacts.com/Home.html |
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| 17:57.56 | Lyn_ | WHY THE HELL ARE EVERYONE ON THE BETA REALM FUCKERS? ... man that sucks, i invite everybody for the eskort q in HJ and everyone accept the q and THEN the group invite.. that sucks so much |
| 17:59.11 | Lyn_ | grml |
| 17:59.39 | JerleMinara | what |
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| 18:00.58 | Ellipsis | what |
| 18:01.08 | thul | what what in the butt |
| 18:01.23 | nevcairiel | thul, innocent, remember! |
| 18:01.32 | thul | bah, good point, cut that last part |
| 18:01.40 | thul | let us talk about flowers, children and strawberry jam |
| 18:01.55 | Ellipsis | what about puppies? |
| 18:02.07 | thul | puppies too |
| 18:02.21 | JerleMinara | what what in the puppies? |
| 18:02.29 | thul | hmm, JerleMinara is not innocent |
| 18:03.59 | gaellalire | Is there a library to show alerts ? |
| 18:04.06 | nevcairiel | alerts? |
| 18:04.11 | nevcairiel | define that :) |
| 18:04.21 | gaellalire | totem is expiring ^^ |
| 18:04.32 | Gnarfoz | that doesn't make sense as a lib |
| 18:04.32 | nevcairiel | well there is LibSink-2.0 |
| 18:04.35 | thul | the one that enhancer uses. |
| 18:04.42 | nevcairiel | that allows you to select various output mechanics |
| 18:05.05 | gaellalire | thank you |
| 18:05.29 | ramoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.40 | Gnarfoz | >_> |
| 18:05.40 | nevcairiel | yes and no |
| 18:05.52 | ramoz | Dish? |
| 18:05.53 | Gnarfoz | it's like a kitchen sink in that you put everything in |
| 18:05.59 | Gnarfoz | and it all comes out in the same place |
| 18:06.05 | ramoz | and NOTHING comes out? |
| 18:06.08 | Gnarfoz | i.e. message redirection |
| 18:06.18 | Gnarfoz | or rather |
| 18:06.19 | Gnarfoz | direction |
| 18:06.37 | nevcairiel | ramoz: you cook in your kitchen sink? curious .. :) |
| 18:06.40 | Gnarfoz | because it's not being forced on anything, you have to be using it to take advantage of it |
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| 18:07.05 | Ellipsis | did nevcairiel just concatenate a smiley to the end of his sentence? |
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| 18:07.24 | Gnarfoz | plenker |
| 18:07.24 | Ellipsis | 'cause I'm pretty sure :) isn't a valid variable name |
| 18:07.45 | ramoz | nevcairiel: some times |
| 18:07.46 | nevcairiel | spanks Ellipsis |
| 18:07.57 | nevcairiel | i cook joghurt in the fridge! |
| 18:08.01 | ramoz | nevcairiel: i dont own a bbq, so i light a fire in my kitchen sink |
| 18:08.07 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 18:08.12 | ramoz | :) |
| 18:08.45 | ramoz | You should try it. |
| 18:08.53 | nevcairiel | I own a bbq =P |
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| 18:09.49 | Gnarfoz | LOL |
| 18:09.51 | Gnarfoz | Coldarra is full. |
| 18:09.55 | Gnarfoz | position in queue: 1 |
| 18:10.01 | Gnarfoz | I haven't seen that screen in a long, long time |
| 18:10.10 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: its a good thing |
| 18:10.19 | nevcairiel | once you get through the queue, its not that lagged anymore |
| 18:10.20 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I hope they set the limit low |
| 18:10.26 | Gnarfoz | sounds like they did |
| 18:10.27 | Gnarfoz | =) |
| 18:10.34 | nevcairiel | only issue now |
| 18:10.40 | nevcairiel | world server still crashes sometimes |
| 18:10.41 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 18:10.50 | nevcairiel | and the login server is totally being abused |
| 18:11.33 | Megalon | nev: no lag on colderra? wellcome to your own dreamland |
| 18:11.37 | JerleMinara | by "sometimes" you mean.. |
| 18:11.41 | JerleMinara | almost always? |
| 18:11.50 | nevcairiel | Megalon: it was fine today |
| 18:12.05 | Megalon | you are used to such high delays? :x |
| 18:12.30 | nevcairiel | its beta, plus the servers are in the US, i can live with a high latency |
| 18:12.51 | nevcairiel | the big server lags that take 1-2 minutes to clear up are gone |
| 18:14.23 | Lyn_ | coldarra is okay atm... sometimes lag, sometimes not |
| 18:16.02 | Lyn_ | okay |
| 18:16.03 | Megalon | cya colderra :D |
| 18:16.05 | Megalon | haha |
| 18:16.06 | Lyn_ | forgot what i said |
| 18:16.10 | Lyn_ | :x |
| 18:16.18 | Lyn_ | i was looting some plague cans |
| 18:16.25 | nevcairiel | well world server crashes usually help finding bugs |
| 18:16.33 | nevcairiel | because they make it crash on every occurance |
| 18:16.36 | nevcairiel | and document those |
| 18:16.39 | Lyn_ | yes |
| 18:16.49 | Lyn_ | its not sooo bad, toilet break :p |
| 18:17.18 | Megalon | it took 30sec to loot a questitems, after that it was.. abnormal unlaggy.. the calm before the storm as it seems :P |
| 18:17.21 | Gnarfoz | [2] err=0 text=SFileReadFile - World\Maps\Northrend\Northrend_22_22.adt - Data\patch-2.MPQ |
| 18:17.24 | Gnarfoz | >_> |
| 18:17.29 | Gnarfoz | stuff like that keeps happening |
| 18:17.36 | Gnarfoz | killing my client dead instantly |
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| 18:17.59 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: sounds like you are broken |
| 18:18.14 | Gnarfoz | it's a client problem, though I have no clue why it happens |
| 18:18.32 | Gnarfoz | it never happens if I wasn't in standby earlier |
| 18:19.12 | Gnarfoz | (also hasn't happened on live, ever, for the last 3 years+) |
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| 18:27.46 | Kuja^ | Zeksie: hmm, are you aware of bugs with weapon buffs? i always have to buff my first waepon manually on my shaman |
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| 18:42.07 | Fisker- | btw nevcairiel |
| 18:42.12 | Fisker- | i was getting teh weird delay |
| 18:42.21 | Fisker- | took a couple of seconds for the possess bar to come up |
| 18:45.33 | Ellipsis | posesses Fisker- |
| 18:49.17 | Fisker- | Ellipsis my love |
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| 18:51.25 | Industrial | Ellipsis: wat about me? |
| 18:51.31 | [Endeavour] | is there a map addon for wotlk beta around? (like cartographer or similar) |
| 18:51.34 | Industrial | are you telling me that everythnig we had was a LIE?! |
| 18:51.47 | Gnarfoz | [Endeavour]: mapster works |
| 18:51.56 | [Endeavour] | thanks :) |
| 18:52.04 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10327-MapsterWotLK.html |
| 18:52.07 | nevcairiel | ^ there |
| 18:52.17 | [Endeavour] | thanks nevcairiel :) |
| 18:52.22 | Fisker- | nevcairiel you scoundrel |
| 18:52.27 | Industrial | makes plans to assasinate Fisker- |
| 18:52.40 | Fisker- | :( |
| 18:53.06 | Fisker- | makes plans to stop those plans |
| 18:53.12 | Industrial | she will be mine again! muhahaha |
| 18:54.06 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 18:54.13 | Ellipsis | there's enough of Ellipsis to go around! |
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| 18:54.25 | nevcairiel | if you say so.. |
| 18:54.27 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 18:54.32 | Ellipsis | ;) |
| 18:54.42 | Chosi | anyone got a castbar replacement for wotlk? |
| 18:54.51 | JerleMinara | quartz |
| 18:54.55 | Industrial | Chosi: look first |
| 18:54.57 | Chosi | ah greatr |
| 18:54.59 | Chosi | -r |
| 18:55.03 | [Endeavour] | but remove the buff stuff from quartz |
| 18:55.08 | Chosi | k |
| 18:55.12 | JerleMinara | or fix it |
| 18:55.13 | JerleMinara | either or |
| 18:55.30 | Chosi | how to fix it? |
| 18:55.50 | Fisker- | did you just insult yourself Ellipsis ? |
| 18:56.12 | CIA-45 | 03ammo * r80586 10oUF_Ammo/Ammo.lua: oUF_Ammo: update bar coloring for latest oUF color stuff |
| 18:56.28 | Ellipsis | Fisker-: I don't consider it an insult |
| 18:56.42 | Industrial | Fisker- is emo |
| 18:56.44 | Industrial | runs |
| 18:56.50 | Ellipsis | oh snap |
| 18:56.52 | Ellipsis | now THAT is an insult |
| 18:57.18 | nevcairiel | well but on Fisker- =P |
| 18:57.24 | nevcairiel | he lives being a insult |
| 18:57.32 | Chosi | a walking insult |
| 18:57.34 | Fisker- | oh well Ellipsis |
| 18:57.39 | Fisker- | then there is enough of you to go around |
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| 19:06.58 | Lyn_ | everytime the mobs spawn for the quest "lesson of fear" in howling fjord.. the server dies oO |
| 19:07.19 | Malev | hehe |
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| 19:07.33 | Malev | I havnt expered that problem yet |
| 19:07.39 | Chosi | coldarra? |
| 19:07.40 | Ellipsis | every time a butterfly flaps its wings....the server dies |
| 19:07.44 | Malev | Maeby gonna do it. |
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| 19:08.11 | Lyn_ | Ellipsis, on coldarra THAT could happen, yes |
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| 19:08.51 | Ellipsis | true, most of the issues have been worked out over on US severs :P |
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| 19:09.32 | Chosi | -.- |
| 19:09.43 | Lyn_ | does us servers (why does us have 2 and eu don't?) have the same problem ? |
| 19:09.47 | Lyn_ | like server down all the time :p |
| 19:09.54 | Chosi | too bad they don't care bout europe |
| 19:10.04 | Lyn_ | yeah |
| 19:10.12 | Ellipsis | Lyn_: we did for a couple days straight, but they've fixed it now |
| 19:10.18 | Malev | I am on EY and i havnt expired that problem yet |
| 19:10.21 | Lyn_ | fine... -.- |
| 19:10.23 | Ellipsis | it only crashes a couple times a day now |
| 19:10.25 | Malev | EU* |
| 19:10.43 | Lyn_ | Malev, then you must have another server like I have.. coldarra dies every 10 minutes or so |
| 19:10.52 | Zyndrome | hope my realm dies permanently, so I can play the beta |
| 19:10.54 | Zyndrome | Muru sucks |
| 19:10.55 | Chosi | glad it's a beta. imagine this shit happening on live |
| 19:10.56 | Chosi | : |
| 19:10.57 | Chosi | :> |
| 19:10.59 | Lyn_ | yeah |
| 19:11.04 | Lyn_ | glad its beta |
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| 19:11.15 | Malev | hehe |
| 19:11.21 | Chosi | i'd love to test the game tho. unfortunately it's nearly impossible |
| 19:11.22 | Chosi | :P |
| 19:11.27 | Lyn_ | amusing is... europe has more beta players than us, right? or am i wrong? |
| 19:11.38 | Zyndrome | http://www.shatteredminds.net/wotlk_beta/there-is-no-god.jpg :C |
| 19:11.51 | Lyn_ | Zyndrome, hawt |
| 19:11.52 | Ellipsis | rofl Zyndrome |
| 19:12.09 | Chosi | is dat sum deathknight? |
| 19:12.13 | Lyn_ | yeah |
| 19:12.18 | Chosi | die in a fire! |
| 19:12.20 | Lyn_ | :P |
| 19:12.33 | Chosi | a fire. go die in it! |
| 19:12.40 | Lyn_ | the hair cut sucks lol |
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| 19:13.02 | Malev | Maeby Take This Conversation in Another Channel? |
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| 19:14.39 | Industrial | Malev: What Are You Saying It Is About Wow Is It Not? |
| 19:14.44 | Industrial | Zyndrome: the haircut sucks. |
| 19:14.54 | Malev | Of course it is |
| 19:15.06 | Malev | But This is WoWace IRC... |
| 19:15.15 | Industrial | if its about wow then its perfectly on topic |
| 19:15.15 | JerleMinara | yes, and? |
| 19:15.18 | Ellipsis | then what's the problem? |
| 19:15.30 | Malev | maeby A wotlk Channel would be good.. |
| 19:15.45 | nevcairiel | and what would we talk about in here then? |
| 19:15.45 | Industrial | if you dont want spoilers leave |
| 19:15.47 | Industrial | bye |
| 19:15.57 | Lyn_ | :o |
| 19:16.01 | Industrial | we all have wotlk invites, as authors, so yeah we talk about it |
| 19:16.03 | Malev | i dont know just wonder |
| 19:16.09 | Lyn_ | about apple pie :D |
| 19:16.13 | Ellipsis | there's not much activity in the addon world outside of wotlk work right now |
| 19:16.14 | Industrial | NOMNOMNOM |
| 19:16.16 | Lyn_ | ! |
| 19:16.19 | Lyn_ | NOMNOMNOM :D |
| 19:16.28 | Ellipsis | om nom nom |
| 19:16.35 | Malev | you right guys we can talk her theb |
| 19:16.39 | Malev | then.. |
| 19:16.40 | Industrial | nibbles on Ellipsis |
| 19:16.40 | Industrial | :d |
| 19:16.49 | Ellipsis | likes it |
| 19:17.07 | Ellipsis | $20 to anyone who can tell me why tomtom waypoints keep disappearing for no reason |
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| 19:17.42 | Malev | Cuz The Waypoints dont like you xD |
| 19:17.42 | Industrial | cuz its not fixed |
| 19:17.43 | Industrial | GIEF |
| 19:17.51 | Lyn_ | cause you are on your destination! |
| 19:17.58 | Industrial | haha |
| 19:18.06 | Industrial | Lyn_ wins |
| 19:18.12 | Lyn_ | :D |
| 19:18.17 | Malev | :) |
| 19:18.21 | Zyndrome | www.shatteredminds.net/wotlk_beta/so-pro.jpg , go go |
| 19:18.35 | Lyn_ | you cleared deadmines, gratulation |
| 19:18.41 | Zyndrome | epic battle! |
| 19:18.50 | Lyn_ | i see |
| 19:18.50 | Ellipsis | Lyn_: outside arrival distance, and they disappear while I'm standing still :P |
| 19:18.58 | Lyn_ | was that with ghoul bug? |
| 19:19.11 | Ellipsis | plus the arrow should point straight down when you get there, not disappear entirely |
| 19:19.17 | Zyndrome | ghouls? hah, none |
| 19:19.18 | Lyn_ | Ellipsis, maybe your "higher you" is at your destination and tricks you ? :o |
| 19:19.31 | Ellipsis | maybe |
| 19:19.52 | Lyn_ | meh.. "handshaking" |
| 19:19.56 | Lyn_ | i hate handshaking on the screen |
| 19:19.57 | Industrial | is that a male blood elf haircut on a human? |
| 19:20.09 | Industrial | they made humans gayer, haha :D |
| 19:20.28 | Lyn_ | yes |
| 19:20.36 | Lyn_ | i have now a SON GOKU pally! |
| 19:20.44 | Industrial | eww |
| 19:20.44 | Malev | ehh Me Stuck on Connecting right now 2 screens FTW :) |
| 19:22.18 | Fisker- | nevcairiel you scoundrel |
| 19:22.19 | Gnarfoz | Zyndrome: NamePlatesModifier? |
| 19:22.35 | Zyndrome | evl_Nameplates |
| 19:23.03 | nevcairiel | forgets Fisker- in the desert. awww |
| 19:23.06 | Malev | Have you done any Addons under the beta? |
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| 19:26.56 | Malev | i mean are it any changes that makes BC code useless (havnt tryed so mutch) |
| 19:27.30 | nevcairiel | all addons that use the secure state headers are broken |
| 19:27.34 | nevcairiel | and need to be redone |
| 19:27.40 | Lyn_ | meh |
| 19:28.36 | Malev | yeah but were to read witch headers changed? |
| 19:30.05 | nevcairiel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202271194&sid=1 |
| 19:30.08 | nevcairiel | and of course |
| 19:30.12 | nevcairiel | ~framexml |
| 19:30.13 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 19:33.06 | Fisker- | wtf mean nevcairiel |
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| 19:37.02 | Lyn_ | why does blizzard fix us server but not eu? :x |
| 19:38.16 | Malev | As i said i havnt expierd that mutch problems |
| 19:38.32 | Fisker- | Lyn_ EU servers aren\t the US' problem! |
| 19:38.50 | Lyn_ | but the eu beta servers are in us :p |
| 19:38.55 | Fisker- | my point exactly |
| 19:39.08 | Malev | just 1-2 dc a day |
| 19:39.33 | Lyn_ | they should fix them anyway :p |
| 19:40.20 | Malev | Lyn_ are you on US or EU? |
| 19:41.03 | Lyn_ | eu |
| 19:41.48 | Malev | okey witch beta realm? |
| 19:42.36 | Malev | You from Germany i supose. |
| 19:44.23 | Matrix110 | We only have 1 Beta realm |
| 19:44.26 | Matrix110 | Coldarra |
| 19:44.51 | Malev | sorry i mean witch contry you curently play ay |
| 19:45.03 | Malev | i know |
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| 19:57.32 | Xaktsaroth | Greetings all. Anyone feeling for helping me with a macro for crowd control spells ? |
| 19:57.47 | Malev[A] | okey go |
| 19:57.56 | Malev[A] | Witch Class? |
| 19:58.05 | Xaktsaroth | druid |
| 19:58.30 | Xaktsaroth | ./focus [modifier:alt] target |
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| 19:58.40 | Xaktsaroth | ./stopmacro [modifier:alt] |
| 19:58.51 | Xaktsaroth | ./cast [target=focus]Entangling Roots(Rank 1) |
| 19:59.05 | Xaktsaroth | i has typed so far. Its working well since i can set focus if pressing alt |
| 19:59.14 | Xaktsaroth | then it cast roots on my focus target |
| 19:59.18 | CIA-45 | 03funkydude * r80587 10StatBlockCore/ (StatBlockCore.lua StatBlockCore.toc): |
| 19:59.18 | CIA-45 | StatBlockCore: 2.4.1 |
| 19:59.18 | CIA-45 | - Disable config for disabled launchers when using the master option |
| 19:59.18 | CIA-45 | - Fix data source plugins |
| 19:59.18 | CIA-45 | - Remove a useless function |
| 19:59.18 | CIA-45 | - non-existing parent bugfix |
| 19:59.26 | Pneumatus | #showtooltip Entangling Roots |
| 19:59.33 | Xaktsaroth | Yes i have it was well |
| 19:59.39 | Malev[A] | What to do more you think? |
| 19:59.44 | Xaktsaroth | Problem is I must have a focus target |
| 19:59.53 | Xaktsaroth | I want the macro to cast roots even if i have no focus made |
| 20:00.05 | Stanzilla | licks Funkeh` |
| 20:00.07 | Pneumatus | /clearfocus [modifier:alt][target=focus,dead][target=focus,help][target=focus,noexists] |
| 20:00.13 | Pneumatus | /focus [target=focus,noexists] |
| 20:00.25 | Pneumatus | /cast [target=focus]Entangling Roots |
| 20:00.52 | Pneumatus | first click will set focus, then root the target |
| 20:00.58 | Pneumatus | subsequent clicks will re-root |
| 20:01.04 | Pneumatus | alt+click will change focus |
| 20:01.22 | Xaktsaroth | I know pneumatus. The part to set focus and cast roots on the target is working forme. |
| 20:01.35 | Xaktsaroth | I need the macro to cast the roots even if I dont have set a focus |
| 20:01.44 | CIA-45 | 03sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80588 10Prat/modules/Font.lua: |
| 20:01.44 | CIA-45 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 20:01.44 | CIA-45 | Fix some wotlk font api issues. |
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| 20:01.56 | Xaktsaroth | I had a working macro before that did it. But i was retard and did not copy macros before wow repair.. |
| 20:02.40 | Malev[A] | okey but the repair make an back up of you macros |
| 20:02.57 | selckin | something like this /cast [target=focus,exists]Entangling Roots; Entangling Roots |
| 20:03.12 | Xaktsaroth | Thanks selckin will try |
| 20:04.30 | Funkeh` | pats Stanzilla |
| 20:05.19 | falconindy | anyone know of an existing issue with RatingBuster using the wrong agi->dodge conversion for rogues? |
| 20:05.23 | Xaktsaroth | That worked exactly as i wanted. Thanks again selckin. Now could you help me with another function i not used before. I think its doable at least. I want to be able to cast r1 with left click and r2 with right click |
| 20:07.13 | selckin | [button:1] Spell(Rank1); [button:2] Spell(Rank 2) |
| 20:07.36 | Xaktsaroth | how i add that to the line you wrote before ? |
| 20:08.16 | selckin | you want to cast roots? |
| 20:08.23 | Xaktsaroth | yes |
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| 20:09.30 | Xaktsaroth | ./cast [target=focus,exists]Entangling Roots; Entangling Roots. Left click r1 and right click r2 |
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| 20:10.00 | selckin | maybe someting like this /cast [target=focus,exists,button:1] Entangling Roots(Rank 1); [target=focus,exists,button:2] Entangling Roots(Rank 2); [button:1] Entabling Roots(Rank 1); [button:2] Entangling Roots(Rank 2) |
| 20:10.04 | selckin | without the spelling errors |
| 20:10.07 | Xaktsaroth | :D |
| 20:11.40 | Xaktsaroth | Hm macro got to long for that . Guess i have to skip that |
| 20:11.59 | selckin | can probably be done simpler |
| 20:18.02 | Xaktsaroth | Hm cant i use /cast [target=focus,exists] [modifier:button2] entangling roots;entangling roots (rank2);entangling roots;entangling roots (rank2) or something ? |
| 20:18.57 | Lukian | what.. ? |
| 20:19.21 | KautionTape | Wow... so many Entagling roots. o.O |
| 20:19.41 | Xaktsaroth | :D |
| 20:20.04 | Xaktsaroth | Multifunctional macro lukian.. |
| 20:20.28 | kenlyric | what do the different ranks give you? |
| 20:20.30 | Ellipsis | that's not how macro conditionals work |
| 20:20.30 | Xaktsaroth | Cast roots on focus target if it exists, if not cast it on current target. |
| 20:20.43 | Xaktsaroth | And use r1 with left click and r2 with rightclick |
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| 20:21.08 | Xaktsaroth | CAuse warriors use some abilties+ proccs from me so i cant refresh r1 on them and need to use an higher rank |
| 20:21.31 | Ellipsis | /cast [target=focus,exists,button:1] [button:1] Entangling Roots (Rank 1); [target=focus,exists] [] Entangling Roots (Rank 2) |
| 20:22.00 | kenlyric | odd that they would lock out one rank and not the other |
| 20:22.45 | Xaktsaroth | Hm that line did not work elipsis |
| 20:23.26 | Ellipsis | for which case |
| 20:23.42 | Xaktsaroth | Did not cast any spell at all |
| 20:24.08 | Ellipsis | with/without a focus? left clicking or right clicking? |
| 20:24.44 | Xaktsaroth | Tried all 4 none worked. Could not right or left click with or without focus |
| 20:24.52 | Ellipsis | that's odd |
| 20:26.02 | Xaktsaroth | I think i know where problem is |
| 20:26.10 | Xaktsaroth | you have space btw entangling roots and (rank1) |
| 20:26.15 | Xaktsaroth | gonna try again |
| 20:26.31 | Ellipsis | o.O |
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| 20:29.16 | Xaktsaroth | seems to work now |
| 20:29.23 | Malev[A] | Good |
| 20:30.16 | Xaktsaroth | Yep all 4 conditions worked exactly as suposed. Thanks very much |
| 20:31.35 | Ellipsis | glad I could help ^-^ |
| 20:33.36 | Lyn_ | oh my gawd |
| 20:33.43 | Lyn_ | gnome hair cut on my ud |
| 20:34.07 | nevcairiel | everyone gets gnome hair cuts now |
| 20:34.11 | Xaktsaroth | Good i deleted my macros then so I could get it work even better ^^ |
| 20:34.12 | Lyn_ | yeah |
| 20:34.17 | Lyn_ | but it looks so damn creepy on my ud |
| 20:34.38 | nevcairiel | UDs even have hair? |
| 20:34.57 | Lyn_ | http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/dd351/wow-lyn/WoWScrnShot_081708_223348.jpg lol |
| 20:35.22 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 20:45.08 | NivFreak | ckknight: fyi, pitbull has some bugs with runic power etc (of course) |
| 20:45.29 | Zyndrome | some haircuts are a crime :E |
| 20:46.18 | Lyn_ | yes |
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| 20:48.32 | Dalhia | euh, been out of WoW for a while, is there an ace2 equivalent to Pawn these days? |
| 20:48.53 | Jyggaa | do you know an addon that blames people breaking CC? does sheppard do that? |
| 20:49.02 | Dalhia | bigbrother does that |
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| 20:51.05 | break19 | noticed quickhealth... is this similar to mobhealth? or what? the forum doesn't get into specifics of what exactly it does... |
| 20:51.23 | Ellipsis | it updates health bars faster than the game normally does |
| 20:51.30 | Ellipsis | really only useful for healers |
| 20:52.20 | break19 | ah ok, cool.. useful for my new baby priest then |
| 20:52.23 | Dalhia | dont even consider getting it as tank indeed, you'll crap your pants |
| 20:52.35 | Ellipsis | probably not useful outside raiding either imo |
| 20:52.44 | Dalhia | so, no ace version/equivalent to pawn I take it? |
| 20:52.45 | Ellipsis | unless you have really fast reaction times and care that much :P |
| 20:53.10 | break19 | what else is new that I might find interesting in the past 2 or 3 months? I've been on hiatus. :p |
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| 20:56.26 | break19 | wow, that much, eh? quite some changes... :PP |
| 20:56.58 | Ellipsis | yeah we're pretty boring huh :P |
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| 20:57.20 | CIA-45 | 03saroz * r80589 10BigWigs_BrutAssist/BigWigs_BrutAssist.lua: |
| 20:57.20 | CIA-45 | BigWigs_BrutAssist: Add a warning in /say when your burn is about to expire |
| 20:57.20 | CIA-45 | Hope it's okay to commit to this? |
| 20:57.22 | break19 | "we" nah.. you? well, maybe....... |
| 20:57.28 | Ellipsis | ouch |
| 20:57.30 | break19 | :) |
| 20:57.34 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 20:57.37 | break19 | still much luv ell |
| 20:57.58 | break19 | does anyone actually even remember me? heh |
| 21:01.40 | kenlyric | you were gone? |
| 21:02.35 | JerleMinara | Niv |
| 21:02.42 | JerleMinara | I posted a patch for the runic power stuff |
| 21:02.46 | JerleMinara | about a week ago |
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| 21:03.40 | break19 | *pout* guess not. |
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| 21:04.48 | Ellipsis | the runic power handling was already added |
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| 21:06.33 | break19 | kenlyric: that stung. :P yea, I left wow (and by extension *ace) about 3 months ago.. my wife didn't. she rerolled on another server recently, so I reactivated to join her |
| 21:07.14 | kenlyric | did she recruit-a-friend? |
| 21:07.19 | kenlyric | because it's amazing. |
| 21:07.22 | break19 | no, scroll of resurrect |
| 21:07.50 | Lyn_ | there is a car in mianus ... awww i like jackass |
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| 21:18.53 | Zyndrome | give our SP a diploma .. spellhit capped, all Dark Fiends resisted mass disepll |
| 21:18.54 | Zyndrome | dispell |
| 21:19.04 | Lyn_ | anyone noticed there is a bug with the Winged Steed of the Ebon Blade ? |
| 21:19.05 | Lyn_ | :x |
| 21:19.58 | kenlyric | what's the bog? |
| 21:20.04 | kenlyric | *bug |
| 21:20.05 | Lyn_ | learned it, cant summon it |
| 21:20.08 | break19 | good plaec for mud rigin |
| 21:20.11 | break19 | ridin |
| 21:20.20 | break19 | damn I cant type on this keyboard. |
| 21:20.22 | Lyn_ | no entry inside my "mount" section of the character panel |
| 21:21.01 | break19 | my laptop is dying a slow death.. so I'm on this PC.. and it's fullsize keyboard is giving me typing fits.. after touchtyping on a laptop keyboard for 3 years.... lol |
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| 21:30.12 | CIA-45 | BigWigs: Sunwell/KilJaeden: |
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| 21:34.10 | KriLL3 | I wounder if the old fast mounts using the same model as the slow mounts will remain in LK... I'm guessing the item is either unusable or gives you the new version |
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| 21:38.55 | [Endeavour] | Just read about the WAU changes and i was wondering if Curse actually has a svn like wowace? i mean, uploading via Turtoise svn was really cool |
| 21:40.13 | PProvost | Endeavour: Each CurseForge project can be svn, git or mercurial based. |
| 21:41.09 | Ellipsis | KriLL3: well there's an achievement for having them, so... |
| 21:41.11 | [Endeavour] | oh, hm.. i searched curseforge but never found out how to sign up for svn (but saw svn projects) |
| 21:41.16 | KriLL3 | oh |
| 21:41.42 | KriLL3 | I foolishly turned in my old mount when the new once were added :( |
| 21:42.05 | PProvost | Endeavour: Each project gets it own repository. There isn't one... there are many. |
| 21:42.23 | Jyggaa | has anybody experienced a bug with battleground_fu where it isnt loadable on demand? modmenutofu cant enable it either, shows only (Loadable on Demand) in green after reloadui |
| 21:43.00 | Jyggaa | deleted all battleground_fu.lua savedvariable files didnt help 8/ |
| 21:43.19 | [Endeavour] | PProvost: aaah, so it's different from the wowace svn. thanks for the information :) |
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| 21:51.02 | JensRex | I won AB! |
| 21:51.16 | JensRex | Where's the champagne?! |
| 21:51.49 | JensRex | Alliance loses about 90% of the time in AB. |
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| 21:54.46 | Zyndrome | 2 months of M'uru, and still no kill, I love raiding |
| 21:56.06 | KriLL3 | JensRex: more like wins 80% of the time |
| 21:56.21 | JensRex | Not in our battlegroup. |
| 21:56.22 | KriLL3 | Zyndrome: sounds like a rewarding experience |
| 21:56.29 | JensRex | We win AV about 80% of the time. |
| 21:56.38 | KriLL3 | same here |
| 21:57.00 | JensRex | It's gotten so bad, that we made an AB lose premade, and danced in Trollbane hall. |
| 21:57.26 | JensRex | Two minutes for a mark, instead of 20 minutes losing and still getting one mark. |
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| 22:36.00 | Adirelle | night |
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| 22:40.21 | Zyndrome | glargh |
| 22:42.31 | Archarodim | someone knows why in WotLK, in the add-on interface of the character screen, some add-ons are in red and others normal (even if they work and if 'load out of date..' is checked? |
| 22:42.52 | Arrowmaster | LoD addons |
| 22:43.13 | fewyn | Hmm... do I want to pvp tonight or play on the beta realms? |
| 22:43.32 | [dRaCo] | pvp on the beta realms? |
| 22:43.36 | Archarodim | ok thank you Arrowmaster |
| 22:43.40 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: is there a reliable way to hide the "addon preferences" minimap button Rock creates, when not running disembedded? |
| 22:43.54 | fewyn | pvping feels like a waste if i'm doing it on the beta realms pre-80 |
| 22:44.15 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: IIRC there was some hack with piggybacking some default UI saved variable, maybe that's not working anymore (or I'm misremembering) |
| 22:45.06 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz: are you the one who made the jira ticket about that? |
| 22:45.37 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: :P |
| 22:46.14 | Gnarfoz | oh you weren't teasing |
| 22:46.22 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: no I'm not that guy |
| 22:48.03 | DARKGuy | this is hilarios and awesome at the same time, worth the watch -> http://alanbecker.deviantart.com/art/Animator-vs-Animation-34244097 |
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| 22:51.37 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz: darn you silly users and your embedded libs |
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| 22:57.37 | CIA-45 | 03archarodim * r80594 10Decursive/ (. Decursive.toc embeds.xml): |
| 22:57.37 | CIA-45 | Decursive: |
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| 23:00.46 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: not my choice really, face it, there's gonna be even less users who're gonna use disembedded come the move... also, I'm just running embedded on beta to test under 'actual conditions' ;) |
| 23:01.15 | Ellipsis | ;P |
| 23:01.25 | Ellipsis | I refuse to "face" anything |
| 23:01.40 | Ellipsis | I have a very strong opinion that embedded libs are evil and should never exist |
| 23:01.42 | Ellipsis | :) |
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| 23:02.16 | Gnarfoz | I don't care, at all, I use disembedded anyway |
| 23:02.21 | Shirik | Ellipsis: So you're saying static libraries should not exist? |
| 23:03.11 | Ellipsis | I'm saying that embedding libraries causes more problems than it helps. |
| 23:03.21 | Shirik | in WoW |
| 23:03.26 | Shirik | you should be more specific |
| 23:03.32 | Gnarfoz | #wowace |
| 23:03.40 | Ellipsis | sorry, thought the context was implied |
| 23:03.44 | Shirik | Gnarfoz: It would be foolish to believe that we never go off-topic |
| 23:03.46 | Gnarfoz | you should be less whatever you are being right now :P |
| 23:03.48 | Ellipsis | I can't say much for other software situations |
| 23:04.00 | Shirik | However, Ellipsis, I disagree with your statement |
| 23:04.06 | Ellipsis | cool :) |
| 23:04.16 | Shirik | I feel that ace's approach to embedded libraries is inherently flawed, thus we have the problems we see |
| 23:04.23 | Ellipsis | that's part of it, yes |
| 23:04.28 | Shirik | but that the idea is actually ideal for certain situations |
| 23:05.06 | Ellipsis | any particular example in mind? |
| 23:05.21 | Shirik | any relatively small library |
| 23:05.33 | Shirik | correction: Any relatively small library that can have independent instances |
| 23:05.37 | Shirik | CTL is not a good example |
| 23:05.59 | Ellipsis | if it's that small, it probably isn't integral to the functionality of an entire addon, thus the addons should optionally support it rather than embed it |
| 23:06.02 | Shirik | I don't use libraries in general, so I can't come up with a specific example at the moment |
| 23:06.05 | JoshBorke | i'm curious shirik, why is it flawed? |
| 23:06.15 | Shirik | JoshBorke: Because it enters into the global environment |
| 23:06.22 | Shirik | Thus multiple instances cannot exist |
| 23:06.34 | JoshBorke | which is the point |
| 23:06.36 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: rock is broken on beta anyway, even with disembeded you cant get that damn minimap icon to go away |
| 23:06.45 | Shirik | JoshBorke: What if I want multiple instances? |
| 23:06.53 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: I was guessing as much, hence my reporting it. |
| 23:07.05 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: (btw, it's JUST the minimap icon. the rest works fine :P) |
| 23:07.16 | Shirik | Every time you have a program using a static library, you are embedding code into your program. More specifically, you are embedding RELOCATABLE code into your program |
| 23:07.22 | Shirik | Code that is independent of anyone else that might have used the same library |
| 23:07.33 | Shirik | Usage of multiple versions of the same static library is not problematic |
| 23:08.18 | Shirik | JoshBorke: Obviously if nobody ever wanted to embed code in their applications, static libraries would not exist; everything would be a DLL/SO |
| 23:08.23 | Shirik | And obviously that's not true |
| 23:08.41 | JoshBorke | i'm trying to find the negative :D |
| 23:08.42 | Arrowmaster | syl was making some static library stuff for wow |
| 23:08.56 | Shirik | JoshBorke, how many times have addons had problems because of conflicting versions of a library between two addons? |
| 23:09.04 | Shirik | More than occasionally |
| 23:09.14 | Shirik | Sure, maybe it's because the addon was written poorly |
| 23:09.14 | Ellipsis | that's not the design's fault as much as it is the lib author's fault |
| 23:09.18 | Shirik | but my point is it shouldn't happen |
| 23:09.25 | Ellipsis | they need to l2bumpversions when they make api-breaking changes |
| 23:09.35 | Shirik | Ellipsis, you're rather missing the point |
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| 23:09.48 | Shirik | My understanding is that the library would take the most recent version, no? |
| 23:09.58 | Ellipsis | only if they have the same major/minor |
| 23:10.02 | JoshBorke | shirik: the most recent major version |
| 23:10.11 | Arrowmaster | usually when that happens its either a lib upgrade bug, or the older version of the lib wouldnt work properly anyway with the current version of wow |
| 23:10.12 | JoshBorke | shirik: ellipsis means to say bump the major version |
| 23:10.30 | Ellipsis | yeah, that |
| 23:10.32 | Shirik | Okay, if you bump the major version, and we now have two major versions of the same library, what happens? |
| 23:10.44 | Ellipsis | authors get to choose which one best suits their addon |
| 23:10.53 | Shirik | And they can function independently? |
| 23:10.55 | Arrowmaster | wrong |
| 23:11.00 | JoshBorke | shirik: the idea behind embedding is not to have per addon libraries, it is to have an easy way to have dependencies distributed with the addon |
| 23:11.11 | Shirik | JoshBorke: I know that |
| 23:11.16 | JoshBorke | shirik: you have effectively have 2 different libraries |
| 23:11.27 | Shirik | I'm merely pointing out that Ellipsis's comment is not seeing what could exist |
| 23:11.40 | Shirik | He states that there is no valid reason to embed libraries |
| 23:11.45 | Ellipsis | she, thank you |
| 23:11.47 | JoshBorke | she btw :D |
| 23:11.48 | Shirik | I state that there is, however it's not used yet |
| 23:11.51 | Shirik | ~irc |
| 23:11.52 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 23:11.52 | fewyn | so for bar mods for wotlk we have.... dominos and bt4 right? Anything I'm missing? |
| 23:11.52 | JoshBorke | and i disagree with her on that |
| 23:11.57 | Arrowmaster | when theres a major version bump in a library its never a 'choose the best for their addon' because the newest will be the best 99% of the time |
| 23:11.59 | Ellipsis | I didn't say there's no valid reason to embed libraries |
| 23:12.10 | Ellipsis | I said the reasons people give aren't valid, and it causes more problems than it fixes |
| 23:12.18 | Shirik | 14(1911:0111:1014) 14(1115Ellipsis14) I have a very strong opinion that embedded libs are evil and should never exist |
| 23:12.20 | Ellipsis | that's not to say it can't ever fix anything; just that it doesn't in practice. |
| 23:12.29 | JoshBorke | we have been doing embedded libs since Ace2 |
| 23:12.35 | Ellipsis | they shouldn't exist because they do more harm than good |
| 23:12.36 | JoshBorke | who can remember the hell that was Ace? |
| 23:12.45 | Shirik | Ellipsis: Right now they do, sure. |
| 23:12.47 | JoshBorke | Ace1 rather |
| 23:12.52 | Shirik | They SHOULD exist, but they should exist in a more sane manner |
| 23:12.58 | Arrowmaster | ellipsis has a view that every user should be forced to go find the different libs that an addon depends on and install them on their own |
| 23:13.05 | Ellipsis | no, actually, I don't |
| 23:13.13 | Arrowmaster | thats what youve said in the past |
| 23:13.14 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster has the view that he needs to put words in my mouth for me |
| 23:13.29 | Arrowmaster | weve had this arguement many times |
| 23:13.30 | Ellipsis | I have a view that it should not be up to the user but up to the RELEASE WEBSITE to track dependencies. |
| 23:13.38 | Shirik | Fact of the matter is that you're making sweeping overgeneralizations, Ellipsis |
| 23:13.42 | Shirik | And you're refusing to see what could be true |
| 23:13.53 | Shirik | Obviously it's pointless to argue my point as it's probably not going to happen |
| 23:13.56 | Arrowmaster | oh the release website, what if there isnt one? |
| 23:14.11 | Shirik | Given that today's users are all about "zomg my memory usage is over 2MB so much slow you make my computer crash" |
| 23:14.13 | Ellipsis | Shirik: just because in your perfect world where developers never screw up their lib embedding or toc dependencies it can be useful, doesn't mean it should be done in the real world. |
| 23:14.28 | Shirik | Ellipsis: My "perfect world" is the world of C programs |
| 23:14.32 | Shirik | and C programs exist all over the place |
| 23:14.49 | Shirik | There are a million static libraries out there, and we don't have problems with APIs changing and breaking older programs |
| 23:14.58 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: "average users" should be downloading from release websites. developers are the only ones who should be directly dealing with code, and they should be competent at handling their own libs. |
| 23:15.02 | Shirik | because each program embeds that library into the program |
| 23:15.08 | Shirik | and you have your own independent copy |
| 23:15.19 | Shirik | So long as the code is relocatable you don't have a problem at all |
| 23:15.35 | Ellipsis | Shirik: let's face it, the learning curve for wow hackers is a bit smaller than that for C |
| 23:15.48 | Shirik | Ellipsis, regardless of language, the general concept is identical |
| 23:15.53 | Ellipsis | a good chunk of addon devs are just plain fail, you can't trust them to set up their addons/libs correctly |
| 23:16.02 | Shirik | they don't need to set anything up |
| 23:16.10 | Shirik | They need to put the addon library in their folder and they're done |
| 23:16.17 | Ellipsis | in the current system, some other stupid author can screw up the embedded lib so that ALL OTHER ADDONS fail because of it |
| 23:16.28 | Shirik | Leave the embedding problem to the library developers; they should be able to resolve that relatively easily |
| 23:16.35 | Ellipsis | and my addon getting blamed because the user has some other author's shitty code installed = suck. |
| 23:16.35 | Shirik | It's a fairly simple concept, really |
| 23:16.40 | Arrowmaster | yeah that situation has happened before |
| 23:16.52 | Shirik | Ellipsis: "?In the current system" |
| 23:16.58 | Shirik | And my point is that the current system is flawed |
| 23:17.02 | Ellipsis | so is mine |
| 23:17.09 | JerleMinara | so you're both agreeing then |
| 23:17.11 | Ellipsis | I have been agreeing with you the whole time, I just have different reasons for it |
| 23:17.13 | JerleMinara | lot of words to say the same thing |
| 23:17.14 | Shirik | Yes, but my point is also that embedded libraries should exist |
| 23:17.16 | Aiiane | is there documentation available for LibBars? |
| 23:17.20 | Arrowmaster | hshh broke almost every addon that used LibSharedMedia-3.0 when he tried to upgrade his CooldownCount to use LSM-3.0 and didnt include libstub or callbackhandler |
| 23:17.20 | Shirik | whereas yours is that they should not |
| 23:17.31 | Ellipsis | they should exist in a disembedded form |
| 23:17.36 | Shirik | And I disagree with that statement |
| 23:17.49 | Ellipsis | and you're welcome to do so |
| 23:17.58 | Shirik | I argue that embedding libraries should only impact the addon embedding it |
| 23:18.01 | Gnarfoz | luckily, neither of you get to decide on that ;D |
| 23:18.04 | Ellipsis | should :) |
| 23:18.16 | Shirik | if you embed a completely broken library, good for you. Your addon doesn't work, everyone else's does |
| 23:18.26 | Aiiane | anyone? docs for libbars? :P |
| 23:18.28 | Ellipsis | so for a real world example |
| 23:18.33 | Shirik | For a static library, it would be expected that your code is independent of everyone else's |
| 23:18.39 | Ellipsis | I have X addons that use LibSharedMedia to share their media paths |
| 23:18.48 | Ellipsis | you think each of them should host their own copy of that lib? |
| 23:18.53 | Shirik | careful Ellipsis, I didn't say that everything should be embedded |
| 23:18.58 | Shirik | If that were the case, DLLs wouldn't exist |
| 23:19.04 | Shirik | Both types of libraries have their place |
| 23:19.08 | Ellipsis | well I'm having a hard time thinking of a case where an addon needs to be embedded. |
| 23:19.21 | Shirik | Ellipsis: Why, because you're concerned about a little memory usage?: |
| 23:19.25 | Ellipsis | s/addon/lib |
| 23:19.31 | Ellipsis | Shirik: not at all |
| 23:19.37 | Shirik | Memory usage is a small price to pay for severely improved independence |
| 23:19.42 | Ellipsis | the reason I prefer disembedded to embedded is the ideal handling of dependencies |
| 23:19.53 | Ellipsis | it has nothing to do with performance |
| 23:20.05 | Shirik | feel free to explain |
| 23:20.27 | Ellipsis | er...currently because libs are embeddable, they are marked as "optional" dependencies |
| 23:20.35 | Ellipsis | the "dependencies" toc field is almost never used |
| 23:20.49 | Ellipsis | even though, in practice, the library is ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED (not that it needs to be, but that's another argument) |
| 23:20.50 | Shirik | I should point out, obviously, that I have almost zero knowledge about how ace works, and I'm looking at this from a conceptual level |
| 23:21.12 | Aeyan | Embedded is for ease of distrubution |
| 23:21.14 | Shirik | Ellipsis: A good point. Naturally, you would move the decision of embedded vs disembedded libraries to the author instead of the user |
| 23:21.15 | Aeyan | That's about it |
| 23:21.22 | Shirik | Thus, you now no longer have that case |
| 23:21.23 | Aiiane | ease of distribution and ease of cleanup |
| 23:21.40 | Shirik | If the library author says "this is a disembedded library" then it's a dependency for the addon, and not embedded |
| 23:21.40 | Ellipsis | so, for example, addon updaters have a hell of a time resolving actual dependencies and a new, absolutely redundant toc field called x-embeds was invented for this purpose (which is one more thing to keep updated by fail addon devs who can hardly get their externals right) |
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| 23:21.55 | Shirik | If the library author says "This is an embedded library" then the library is not a dependency, and instead it's inside the addon's folder |
| 23:22.06 | Polarina | For some reasons, the ground disappears and all I can see are the characters and doddads. |
| 23:22.16 | Shirik | And that decision should be solely the library author's decision (or arguably the addon author's decision), and NOT the user's |
| 23:22.22 | Ellipsis | Polarina: I've had that happen a few times when paging too much |
| 23:22.31 | Aeyan | I have too |
| 23:22.38 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: speaking of C and dlls, i have a question for you when this is over |
| 23:22.40 | Shirik | The flaw you point out, Ellipsis, is because you're shifting a component indicated in the TOC from the developer's authority to the user's authority |
| 23:22.44 | Shirik | and imho, that should never happen |
| 23:22.56 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: What's up? |
| 23:23.04 | Aeyan | Kind of like this? |
| 23:23.05 | Aeyan | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Aeyan/Warcraft/whatfloor.jpg |
| 23:23.06 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 23:23.07 | Ellipsis | by user I take it you're referring to the user of the lib, i.e. the addon dev |
| 23:23.12 | Polarina | Ellipsis: However, when I turn off one of my addon, the frequency of this happening reduces dramatically. |
| 23:23.19 | Shirik | Ellipsis, not at all. I mean the user of the addon |
| 23:23.21 | Polarina | Aeyan: Yes. |
| 23:23.23 | Ellipsis | Polarina: sweet, what addon? |
| 23:23.24 | Vonhinten | Bottom line, embedded or unembedded, if an addon loads a library and gets one that is imcompatible rather than failing gracefully, there's something wrong with the compatibility system. |
| 23:23.29 | Shirik | The user of the addon gets to choose between embedded and unembedded, right? |
| 23:23.32 | Ellipsis | Shirik: then please explain that statement, I'm afraid I don't follow |
| 23:23.37 | Polarina | Ellipsis: I call it Kere, it's something I haven't released yet. |
| 23:23.48 | Shirik | If that's the case, then the "dependency" component of the TOC file is now under authority of the user |
| 23:23.50 | Shirik | instead of the developer |
| 23:23.54 | Ellipsis | Shirik: ah, I see |
| 23:23.55 | Shirik | That's why it has to be placed as an opt dep |
| 23:24.04 | Shirik | which is, quite simply, wrong |
| 23:24.12 | Ellipsis | yes, I agree 100% on that |
| 23:24.34 | Ellipsis | but I think that addon authors can't be trusted to make the decision for the user either, that's why the system is like this now |
| 23:24.51 | Shirik | I mostly argue that the decision should be the library author's |
| 23:24.59 | *** join/#wowace Ackis (n=asdf@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Troll/Ackis) |
| 23:25.02 | Shirik | In extremely rare cases you might argue that an addon could be both shared and not shared |
| 23:25.20 | Ellipsis | I can't count the number of tiny addons I've had to modify just to get them to run because I don't want PeriodicTable (a gigantic library usually used for only a tiny optional feature or two) |
| 23:25.22 | Shirik | but for simplicity purposes, I would accept it if the library author were the one to make that decision |
| 23:25.45 | Polarina | Ellipsis: I can DCC it to you. |
| 23:26.21 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 23:26.22 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: ping? |
| 23:26.28 | Ellipsis | Polarina: I'm just curious to know if you have any idea what type of code it is that's triggering the issue, I have some custom addons running as well that I'm not sure about |
| 23:26.30 | Arrowmaster | im still here |
| 23:26.35 | Ellipsis | licks Zhinjio |
| 23:26.39 | Shirik | I asked you what you wanted :) |
| 23:26.47 | *** part/#wowace Arrowmaster (n=Arrow@unaffiliated/arrowmaster) |
| 23:26.52 | Shirik | er |
| 23:26.53 | Shirik | bye |
| 23:26.54 | *** join/#wowace Arrowmaster (n=Arrow@unaffiliated/arrowmaster) |
| 23:26.57 | Polarina | Ellipsis: My addon automatically changes the terrain distances to maintain a steady FPS rate. |
| 23:27.01 | Arrowmaster | bah that was the wrong window |
| 23:27.03 | Shirik | hi again :) |
| 23:27.06 | Polarina | Ellipsis: The algorithm is basic, but it works. |
| 23:27.30 | Ellipsis | Shirik: I think I could be convinced that the lib author should be in charge of defining his library as either embedded or disembedded (but -never- both, because it will just devolve into what we have now) |
| 23:27.50 | Ellipsis | Polarina: interesting, have you reported it to blizz? |
| 23:28.11 | Polarina | Ellipsis: I can imagine the first response. |
| 23:28.16 | Aeyan | I've had that ground issue on and off over a long time |
| 23:28.17 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 23:28.34 | Aeyan | Usually figured it was due to heat or overstraining my old graphics card/ram/hdd |
| 23:29.32 | Archarodim | btw, has something changed in the way WotLK loads add-on? Because I can't use my add-on desembeded, I have to use the emebeded versions else I get a ton of errors about missing libraries (like if things were not loaded in the right order) |
| 23:29.46 | Ellipsis | Archarodim: yes, optdeps don't work with libs that haven't been toc-bumped |
| 23:30.03 | Archarodim | hmm that explains everything :/ |
| 23:39.24 | Zyndrome | http://kotaku.com/5037975/parents-let-kid-drop-out-of-high-school-to-focus-on-guitar-hero |
| 23:42.54 | Polarina | wonders why people have their addon add a minimap icon to the minimap. All possible location are already used by blizzard icons... |
| 23:43.02 | Polarina | s/location/locations/ |
| 23:47.12 | Aeyan | I hates minimap icons forever |
| 23:47.18 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: so, nothing I set in "addon preferences" pertaining to itself is saved. (this is the same on live, btw, scaling resets to 125% on its own, every time) - and by now I've disembedded the whole shebang |
| 23:48.29 | JoshBorke | i missed the argument :( |
| 23:48.57 | Aeyan | It's an old argument - nothing you haven't heard before. =P |
| 23:49.57 | Zyndrome | minimap herpes |
| 23:50.13 | Ellipsis | it's ok JoshBorke, we can have it again if you want ;) |
| 23:50.40 | Aeyan | My minimap must be clean |
| 23:50.54 | Aeyan | Except in the beta. Blizzard haunts my sanity with the damn feedback button |
| 23:51.04 | Aeyan | Oh well |
| 23:51.05 | Zyndrome | yeh |
| 23:51.27 | Zyndrome | havn't found a clean minimap that works for the beta... using RicoMinimap for now :C |
| 23:51.47 | Polarina | There's no room for the blizzard feedback icon on the minimap. |
| 23:52.04 | Aeyan | I still use pMinimap |
| 23:52.13 | Aeyan | Works great except for the feedback button |
| 23:52.48 | Polarina | wants someone to take over the maintenance of her addons. |
| 23:54.33 | Aeyan | Crystalsong Forest looks awesome |
| 23:55.33 | Gnarfoz | I dunno what's with the feedback icon |
| 23:55.37 | Gnarfoz | I can move it around the map |
| 23:55.51 | Gnarfoz | but... it sucks? someone make a fubar plugin for it :P |
| 23:55.54 | Polarina | Does anyone know at what day the next WowInterface beta giveaway batch is? |
| 23:55.58 | Aeyan | Mine's locked |
| 23:56.05 | Aeyan | But, could be a setting or addon I suppose |
| 23:56.08 | Aeyan | Haven't really looked |
| 23:56.25 | Aeyan | Polarina: Judging from the first, whenever Blizzard feels like it. |
| 23:56.37 | Polarina | Aeyan: No, when they send the batch to Blizzard. |
| 23:56.45 | Aeyan | Ah |
| 23:57.54 | Aeyan | Cairenn sends a batch every Monday |
| 23:58.08 | Aeyan | Don't know what ticket numbers they're on right now, but that's the schedule |
| 23:58.27 | Polarina | http://notalwaysright.com/natural-selection-in-action/530 |
| 23:58.29 | Polarina | :) |
| 23:59.47 | Cairenn | up to and including 672 went last Monday, anything that has come in since will be sent tomorrow |
| 23:59.56 | Polarina | Yay! |
